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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, December 14, 2017
2:00 PM
Planning and Zoning
City Hall
City Commission
Francis Suarez, Mayor
Keon Hardemon, Chair
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner, District One
Joe Carollo, Commissioner, District Three
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner, District Four
Daniel J. Alfonso, City Manager
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
City Commission Meeting Minutes December 14, 2017
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Present. Chair Hardemon, Vice Chair Russell, Commissioner Gort, Commissioner Reyes
and Commissioner Carollo
On the loth day of December, 2017, the City Commission of the City of Miami, Florida, met
at its regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in
regular session. The Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Hardemon at 5:06
p.m., and adjourned at 10:31 p.m.
Note for the Record. Commissioner Carollo entered the Commission chambers at 5:15 p.m.,
Commissioner Gort entered the Commission chambers at 5:15 p.m., and Commissioner
Reyes entered the Commission chambers at 5:16p.m.
ALSO PRESENT.
Francisco J. Garcia, Planning Director
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
PART B: PZ - PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM(S)
The following item(s) shall not be considered before 2:00 PM
PZ ORDER OF THE DAY
Chair Hardemon: Calling the December 14, 2017 PZ (Planning & Zoning) Part
"B," Planning & Zoning items meeting into order. Madam City Attorney, can you
read it into the record, please?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): PZ items shall proceed according to Section 7.1.4
of the Miami 21 Zoning Code. Before any PZ item is heard, all those wishing to
speak must be sworn in by the City Clerk. Please note, Commissioners have been
briefed by City staff and the City Attorney on items on the agenda today. The
members of the City Commission shall disclose any ex parte communications,
pursuant to Florida Statute Section 286.0115 and Section 7.1.4.5 of the Miami 21
Zoning Code. Any person may be heard by the City Commission through the Chair
for not more than two minutes on any proposition before the City Commission,
unless modified by the Chair. If the proposition is being continued or rescheduled,
the opportunity to be heard may be at such later date before the City Commission
takes action on such proposition. The Chairman shall advise the public when the
public may have the opportunity to address the City Commission during the public
comment period. When addressing the City Commission, the member of the public
may first state his or her name, his or her address, and what item will be spoken
about. A copy of the agenda item titles will be available at the City Clerk's Office
and at the podium for your ease of reference. Staff will briefly present each item to
be heard. For applications requiring City Commission approval, the applicant will
then present its application or request to the City Commission. If the applicant
agrees with staff recommendation, the City Commission may proceed to its
deliberation and decision. The applicant may also waive the right to an evidentiary
hearing on the record. The order of presentation shall be as set forth in the Miami
21 Zoning Code and in the City Code, providing that the appellant shall present first.
For appeals, the appellant will present its appeal to the City Commission, followed
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by the appellee. Staff will be allowed to make any recommendations they may have.
All persons testifying must be sworn in. The City of Miami requires anyone
requesting action by the City Commission must disclose before the hearing anything
provided to anyone for agreement to support or withhold objection to the requested
action, pursuant to City Code Section 2-8. Any documents offered to the City
Commissioners that have not been provided seven days before the meeting as part of
the agenda materials will be entered into the record at the City Commission's
discretion. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Mr. Clerk.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. If you'll be
speaking on any of today's Planning & Zoning items -- if you'll be speaking on any of
today's Planning & Zoning items, may I please have you stand and raise your right
hand?
The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those
persons giving testimony on zoning items.
Mr. Hannon: Thank you, Chair.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Are there any items that need to be
continued or withdrawn?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Yes, there are, sir; a number of
them, actually, so I will read them out. There are specifics for each of them, and
they all have a date requested attached, for your consideration, of course. They are
as follows. And I apologize; I should have introduced myself. I am Francisco
Garcia, the director of Planning for the City of Miami. The items to be continued or
deferred are as follows: Item PZ.1 has been requested for deferral to the January 25
meeting. PZ.2, that was a companion item to SR.2, and it will therefore be
indefinitely deferred; that would translate to a deferral until June 28; Item PZ.3,
continued to January 11; Item PZ. 4, continued to January 11; Items PZ. 13 and 14,
which are companion items, continued -- rather, deferred to January 11 -- my
apologies; continued to January 11; Item PZ. 15 and Item PZ. 16, companion items,
to January 25; Item PZ. 25, to February 22; Item PZ. 28, to June 28; and Item PZ. 31
has been requested to be withdrawn by the applicants.
Vice Chair Russell: What was the last one?
Mr. Garcia: PZ.31.
Commissioner Gort: 31, withdrawn.
Mr. Garcia: Withdrawn.
Chair Hardemon: Are there any other items by the board that you want to --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: --defer, continue, withdraw?
Commissioner Carollo: I don't know if there are any items left on zoning matters in
District 3, Mr. Clerk, or -- one I hear, was pulled out; there were two others, and
they might have had companion items. Were those pulled out or not?
Mr. Hannon: I'll defer to the Planning director.
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Mr. Garcia: Thank you. Yes, sir. The -- all of the Planning & Zoning items that
affect directly District 3 have been recommended for continuance or deferral.
Commissioner Carollo: There were three, right?
Mr. Garcia: I'm sorry? There were three items, yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Any other questions, withdrawals, deferrals? Seeing none, is
there a motion in accordance?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved; seconded by the Chair. For motions in the
spirit of what was listed by our Planning -- what was it? Are you Planning director
now or is it Zoning director?
Mr. Garcia: Igo by Francisco, but "Planning director" is fine also.
Chair Hardemon: Planning director. Thank you very much. Any further questions
about it? Seeing none, all in favor, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes. Give you a chance to notate that.
Mayor Francis Suarez: Mr. Chair, if I may?
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. I'll be very brief. I just want to make some public
comments on a few of the items, some of which I'm sponsoring today. Very quickly,
PZ. 7, 8, and 9, which is Miami Jewish Health Systems, I'm supporting their
application for an SAP (special area plan). They've been around for 75 years, and
they serve more than 12, 000 patients, ranging from 5 years old to 105 years old.
They're on the cutting edge of Alzheimer's research. Phase I of the SAP will include
an empathy care village and also will have a three-story garage, and other phases of
it will include public space. So I just wanted to go on the record as co -sponsoring
and supporting their application. PZ. 17 and 18 are -- a pocket park in District 4;
obviously, it's near and dear to my heart, being the former district Commissioner.
We worked hard, since it's difficult to acquire land, through the impact fee monies
that are separated for a park fee acquisition, and acquired a couple of parcels in
District 4 to be converted into pocket parks, and this one is 1301 Southwest 21st
Avenue. So I look forward to working with the district Commissioner, Commissioner
Reyes, on making this a pocket park that will service the community that we both
serve. PZ.19 is T5 parking standards. I won't even try to explain it, because the
Planning director did a wonderful job at the last Commission meeting. But I
sponsored it primarily for notice reasons. There's a 60 -day notice period that would
be required, unless sponsored by a legislator and/or the Mayor. So I -- in
consideration of the Manager's and the Planning director's request, I sponsored it,
and it was passed on first reading by this Commission -- by the prior Commission --
I apologize. And PZ.20 is the micro units piece of legislation. I understand that the
Vice Chair has some amendments, and thank you for co -sponsoring it as well. I
think this is apart of the proactive legislation and proactive entitlements that we can
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enact in order to support affordable housing, which I think we all agree it is a
critical need in this City. PZ.24 is Studio 60.
Note for the Record: At this time, Mayor Suarez made comments in Spanish, which
were not translated.
Mayor Suarez: I just want to say thank you to all those who are here in attendance,
on behalf of the PZ.24, Studio 60 application, which is in the Commissioner's
district, and I support the Commissioner, who I understand is supportive of this
application. So those are my comments. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
Chair Hardemon: All right. So at this time I'll open the floor for public comment. If
there's anyone from the public that'd like to speak on any of the remaining items on
the PZ (Planning & Zoning) agenda, now is your time to approach one of the
lecterns. So you can step to the lectern to my right, to my left; state your name, first
and last; which item it is that you're speaking about, and you may state your address
so that you can be identified. So once again, this is the public comment section. If
you're here to speak on any item that is on the PZ agenda that's remaining, you can
step to any of the two lecterns; state your name --first name, last name; what item it
is you're speaking about, and you may state your address. You're recognized, sir.
Edward Martos: Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Chair, and thank you,
Commissioners, for this opportunity to speak. My name is Edward Marton, offices at
2525 Ponce DeLeon Boulevard. I have a very brief presentation to make for PZ.24.
However, I have a great number of people here, the people you see with red shirts,
who are here in support of the application for Studio 60; that's PZ.24. And I thought
it would be courteous to you all if I simply called them -- had them recognized for the
Commission, rather than have every single one of them come up and speak,
essentially stating their support. So if I may, through the Chair, in Spanish, speak to
them so they can stand up and be recognized?
Note for the Record: At this time, Mr. Martos addressed the audience in Spanish;
comments not translated
Mr. Martos: And so you can see all these folks here in the shirts, and some of them
without them, are here in favor of the application. I'll present when my time is up.
Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
Note for the Record: At this time, Chair Hardemon addressed the audience in
Spanish; comments not translated. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Jordan's. It looks good
with --I have some Jordan's that look good. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir.
Mr. Martos: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Ma'am, you're recognized.
Terry Matias: Good afternoon. My name is Terry Matias, and I'm one of the owners
of 1772 Northwest 30th Street, in Allapattah. Prior to just six weeks ago, I received
an email from Planning & Zoning, asking if an indefinitely deferred matter had been
resolved. This particular matter dates back to July of 2011. As we had not heard
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anything for several years, we were under the impression -- or we were told that,
"Well, if you don't hear anything, if there aren't any letters from the City, then the
matter is basically taken care of. " We purchased the property in 2009, when we
signed the contract. It was a foreclosure for a duplex. The -- during our due
diligence, we found out that there was $120,000 in liens for an illegal third
apartment in the duplex. Prior to going through with the deal, we contacted the
City, and had Inspector Eloy Vega come out and do an inspection. During the
inspection, he told us the only thing we needed to do was to open the door between
the living room and the third apartment and to remove the kitchen in the same area.
Basically, he also said that we needed a new tax card, because the tax card that we
had showed a bungalow instead of a duplex. We did as the Inspector Vega had
instructed. We took out permits; the permits were closed, finalized, and then we
went ahead and we purchased the property. We then asked Inspector Vega to come
and give us the Affidavit of Compliance; at which time, he did. Everything was fine.
And he mentioned that it would only be a formality to have another inspection done,
because there was a vacant building violation. At that time, the other inspector,
Rene Benitez came, and he said it was an abandoned building. At no point at any
time in 2009, 2010, or even 2011 was anything mentioned about a setback issue, and
we purchased the property priority to the Miami 21. We met with several
Commissioners, including Chairman Hardemon's office, three different
Commissioners. We had several meetings with the City. We were always told by the
City that they would help us in resolving this matter, but, unfortunately, nothing was
done. And again, what we did, we spent over $20,000. We hired an architect to
legalize the second apartment just so we could have everything resolved with the
City. We had the architect --Zoning rejected the architect Bercow's request because
of the setback violations. Again, at no point in our due diligence or in any of the
paperwork was the setback situation mentioned. We hired an attorney, who
submitted a variance application. That application was also denied. And the City
was consistently telling us not to worry -- excuse me -- that the City would be
working with us to get the matter resolved.
Chair Hardemon: Ma'am?
Ms. Matias: The last we heard was in 2012. Yes, sir?
Chair Hardemon: Are you speaking to Item PZ.S, 1772 Northwest 30th Street?
Ms. Matias: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. Can you --your time has expired, so can you leave us with
what your request is? What action are you asking of this body?
Ms. Matias: I would like to know what the City -- This has been dormant, and we
have no idea what's going on.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. All right. We'll -- When we get to the item, we'll do it,
okay?
Ms. Matias: Yeah. See, this is a surprise. The email was a surprise. We're here. I
brought in all the information that I've been accumulating for the past nine years,
and now what do we do?
Chair Hardemon: Okay. When we get to the matter, we'll -- please -- so please stay.
When we get to the matter, we'll address that, okay?
Ms. Matias: Okay.
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Chair Hardemon: Thank you so very much.
Commissioner Gort: Hopefully, we'll take care of this tonight.
Ms. Matias: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Gort: Hopefully, we'll take care of this tonight.
Chair Hardemon: Right. "Hopefully, we'll take of this tonight, " is what he said.
Ms. Matias: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: Is there any other person that wants to speak on public comment
for any of the items that are on the agenda?
Vice Chair Russell: Playhouse?
Chair Hardemon: And -- I mean, I'll - and I'll tell you, if you're here for the
Playhouse -- because we're going to -- we have the 5:30 time certain -- you're the
first item I'm going to hear, so I would suggest -- we're a couple minutes shy of 5:30,
and I don't want to run afoul of any, you know, thing, because my Clerk gets very
funny if I run afoul of things. So I'll tell you this: If you're here from the Playhouse,
you're more than welcome to take any of the two lecterns to -- for your public
comments, so this is a public comment section. So if you're a member of the public
and you want to give us your two cents about what's going on, this is your
opportunity to be heard, okay? So I want the record to reflect that there are
members who are supportive of the Playhouse -- the Playhouse; just put it that way -
- who are now taking the lectern. You're recognized, ma'am.
Carmen Pelaez: Hi. My name is Carmen Pelaez. I'm a writer and an actor who -- I
had a sold -out extended show at the Playhouse back in 2003. I've come to several of
these meetings. The plan to destroy the Playhouse and just leave the facade is
embarrassing. All of my colleagues in the theater world in New York, in London, in
LA (Los Angeles) can't believe that Miami would let a jewel slip out of their hands
this way. There's a lot of misinformation about the alternative plan that Mr. Eidson
has put forward, which supports two theaters. There's been a lot of denigrating of
both plans on both sides, and I think that's unnecessary. If we restore the Playhouse
and have a plan that has two theaters, everybody can come together and make it an
incredible, creative, fully functioning place all year round. I live in Coconut Grove.
We have enough buildings. We have enough empty storefronts. What we need is a
place for professional theater makers; not students, but professional theater makers
to practice their craft with international theater makers all year round. If you guys
tear down the Playhouse, and we get one 300 -seat theater run by one company,
you're cutting us off at the knees. We've earned the backwater title the New York
Times is so willing and happy to give us all the time. I lived in New York for 22
years. Being at that Playhouse revived my career in a way that I could have never
imagined, and theater professionals need it to be a thriving, multi -arts place. So I
beg you guys to restore it so that everybody that's working on it can come together
and decide the best way to run it. But if you guys tear it down, we don't have a shot
at it, and this City deserves to keep its history.
Chair Hardemon: So I asked you a question, because many times, there are buzz
words. You hear "restore. " You hear all these different terms. What specifically
are you asking us to do with the measure today?
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Ms. Pelaez: I think it should be the two -theater plan. This idea that keeping the
fagade is good enough is like terrible plastic surgery on a 101 -year-old woman, with
the lips out to here and the cheekbones out to there.
Chair Hardemon: I like those type of women. I like those type of women, so --
Ms. Pelaez: Well, okay; not to be agist. This isn't about being agist, but this is
about being true to something. Elaine Stritch mentions the Playhouse in her show,
'At Liberty. " John Guire is in Miami for five minutes, and he asked, "What's
happening to the Playhouse?" Samuel Beckett, Tennessee Williams, Liza Minnelli. I
stayed there. You feel those ghosts, and you don't feel it when you're walking on the
sidewalk. These things matter. We are at such a precipice right now in Miami
creatively, it's incredible. Again, I lived in New York for 22 years; I have not looked
back once. And I never would have thought I'd be this happy in Miami with --
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Ms. Pelaez: -- culturally what's happening.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
Ms. Pelaez: We can feel it and we can create there, but professionals need a shot.
To turn it into a teaching theater is an embarrassment.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, ma'am.
(Applause)
Vice Chair Russell: Uh-oh, there it goes.
Chair Hardemon: There we go. Any time you are supportive of what someone has
to say, make sure you just give us some spirit fingers, because it may take time to
quiet you down, then it takes time from the next speaker, and then I have to do this,
and then you want me to stop talking, and it's just a big circle. So, sir, you're
recognized.
Jose Rodriguez: Hi. My name Jose Rodriguez. My residency is at 2354 Northwest
35th Street. I'm here to support Studio 60. Reason I'm here is that Studio 60 means
a lot to our residency out there. For example, holidays, like Thanksgiving, these
residents, they mostly are out around, they don't have a place to go, or don't even
have a meal to eat. These people opens the doors. They feed them. They give them
food to take home. And at Christmas it's the same thing; they open up to the
community. They're not only making money for themself, which is okay for them to
make money, but another thing also, we get work from them. They give us work,
while other places -- people in that little community there, all the people won't give
them work, whether they're older or they -- you know, they have some kind of
disability. These people, they don't care. They all doesn't care. As long as you
honest and you willing to make a dollar the honest way, he'll hire you. The same
thing, somebody in the community needs food, whatever, they there. They're always
there; not like the other establishments that are out there. They just make money,
money; forget about the community. They don't care what goes down. They do. I've
been around that area for 30 years; they've been around there eight. The eight years
that they've been there, they have helped the community a lot. As you can tell, all the
red shirts that out here, that's our little community, you know. Whether -- in that
place, if we want to go in there and have a meal and don't have money, it's okay with
them, you know. We can work it out if we want. And it will a shame, and it will hurt
a lot of people if that place was really to close down, because other people, when the
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holidays come by, they don't have no other place to go, you know, but they open the
door. Whether you live in the community or not, you're welcome there at all times,
no matter what. Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou, sir. Sir, you're recognized.
Tony Scornavacca: Hi. My name is Tony Scornavacca. I live here in Coconut
Grove. I'm asking the City Commission to please restore the building of the Coconut
Grove Playhouse. It's a gem. It's the crown jewel of Coconut Grove. Coconut --
excuse me -- the City of Miami does not have a lot of historic crown jewels. The
Olympia Theater, the Freedom Tower, Vizcaya. The Coconut Grove Playhouse is in
that category. From what I understand, the current plan that's in place to deal with
that building is to demolish it and save the fagade, which it would be a shame. The -
- I grew up herein the Grove. My parents moved herein the `50s. I'm still here.
I've been to many plays there and concerts at the theater. It's perfect. I ask the City
of Miami Commission to approve Richard Heisenbottle's plan. He has a wonderful
plan, and he's an expert in the field of restoring old buildings and bringing them
back to their former glory. He knows what he's doing. He's the authority of all
authorities, and he's got a wonderful plan for the Coconut Grove Playhouse, one that
-- and I could speak on behalf of the majority of the -- probably the City of Miami
residents; I don't know, but for sure the Coconut Grove residents. We really are
tired of driving by for the last 11 years that old crusty building, collecting dust. It's
an embarrassment. There's been no leadership. There's been no ambition regarding
saving that building, and it's the perfect venue. It's a wonderful place. Real quick. I
know my time is up. When I was in high school, I was a busboy at the Taurus
Steakhouse, and we always looked forward to the plays at the Playhouse, because
more money in our pockets; and all of the restaurants in the neighborhood, same
thing. So we need that Playhouse, and we need it to be big, and we need it to draw
big crowds, and Richard Heisenbottle is the man who can do that for us; I'm certain
of it. Thank you for your time.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou very much, sir. Sir, you're recognized.
Wayne Lippman: Thank you. My name is Wayne Lippman. I live here in Coconut
Grove on Bayshore Drive. I am a proponent of the GableStage proposal, because I
think a small venue is the only thing that can be successful. I believe that a two -
theater, total 900 -seat facility, is just not feasible. But what I really wanted to ask
this governing body is at what point do the hearings stop and the appeals stop, and
does this governing body make a decision so, one way or another, we can move
forward with renovating this facility?
Vice Chair Russell: Tonight.
Mr. Lippman: Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. I have your question noted, and we're
going to answer that question for you, okay?
Mr. Lip man: Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou. You're recognized, sir.
Larry Fields: Hello. Good evening. My name is Larry Fields. I'm the executive
artistic director at Fantasy Theater Factory at the beautiful, new Sandrell Rivers
Theater right here in Miami. I'm here to speak in favor of Miami -Dade County's
current plan for bringing back the Coconut Grove Playhouse. The plan in place
right now between Miami -Dade County, GableStage, and FIU (Florida International
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University) is solid, it's well thought out, it's been vetted, and it's a plan that is in
place now and ready to move forward. There's a lot of talk about, "How much
longer is it going to take?" Well, the endless appeals and the endless litigation,
that's going to draw it out even longer. You know, the Historic Preservation Board
has already voted on this issue, and it wasn't even close. It was an overwhelming
vote to approve the current plan, and they weren't wrong. The appeal before you
today, really, I've looked at it; it's without merit. You know, the largest portion of
the opposition to this plan is based on a desire to bring the Playhouse back to
exactly what it was before; the old business model and the old size, and folks, we
know how that turned out. We've seen that movie. It ended in disaster. The plan
now is a sustainable, viable plan. The opposition also, I think, is based a lot on
nostalgia. We heard about ghosts in the theater, but we need to really look at this
clear-eyed and see the objective reality before us. That building is beyond repair at
this point. The plan to restore the outside fagade is terrific, it's beautiful, it keeps
that integrity, and it gives a Twenty -First Century modern, new Playhouse. One last
point to make. Virtually, the entire theatrical community -- those of us who run
theaters; everyone from Actors Playhouse, City Theater, the Arsht Center -- the
director emeritus had apiece in the paper today, in Miami Herald -- they're all on
board with this plan. These are the folks who run theaters, who know what it takes
to make them viable and to make them work; they're on board. GableStage is a more
than capable organization; MU's involvement will make it even better. So I urge this
Commission to uphold the current plan in place; it's the best plan. It will bring
theater back to the Coconut Grove Playhouse. I thank you for your time.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou, sir. You're recognized, sir.
Barry White: Thank you. My name is Barry white. I live at 1001 Southwest 129th
Terrace. On the December 11 th, I sent a memo to Mr. Cher (phonetic), who is the
executive producer of one of the largest companies that tour shows in the nation, and
I asked him this question: "Can you please tell me the minimum theater seats for
your touring companies economically? We're debating the configuration of the
Coconut Playhouse. Some say 700, some say 1,000, 1,200. Do you usually book
your shows into 700 -seat theaters?" His answer was, "Thanks for reaching out.
700 is smaller than most houses we play, if not all. I would say 1,000 is the
minimum. Or, as our shows normally cost $200,000 or above, and as local expenses
are often two fifty thou -- hundred thousand plus, and we get 10 percent of the box
ojfce, that would make a break point for an eight -show week of $550,000.
Therefore, you would need to sell 8,000 tickets, at least, at $70 a ticket to come near
breaking even. " So what you take away from that is that if you want a -- just a
regional theater, go with 700 seats, but to build an important facility like this with
just 700 seats is foolhardy for two reasons: The function of that site is as an
economic driver for the Grove, and you can -- if you don't create that, it's a gross
underuse of the product, and you're selling Commodore Plaza short, which we've
always done; we've never given them any parking. They need a parking garage at
the theater. You must build a garage on Grand Avenue, and if you really want to
make this thing economically viable, you got to build a proper facility. You can put
your rehearsal and scene stuff on top; you build another area there, another 10 feet,
and you can put all that on there. So you got to go with a larger theater, and the --
as designed, the current theater -- I'm a season ticketholder at Mr. -- GableStage,
and -- senior moment -- there's an intimacy in that theater. It's only seven rows
deep, but it's wide. What they have planned here is -- goes on forever, and the stage
is up there. If you're going to build it there, at least turn that stage and put your
seats this way, and make it more interesting. The people who made this design, the
architecture -- really, form is supposed to follow function. I don't see that here. The
historic preservation people -- that place was a 1,200 -seat theater, with -- a small
theater, longer than it was -- as it was before, and in recreating what it was, it's
antsy. fartsy. It's nice, it feels good, but it doesn't do anything for the future.
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Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir.
Mr. White: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, sir.
Sylvan Seidenman: Hello. My name is Sylvan Seidenman. I live in South Miami -
Dade County. And as an aside, I was a counselor at New World School of the Arts
in Miami, and became from that proud godparent of Tarell Alvin McCraney, the
playwright who's brought so much fame to the City of Miami, and continues to do
good works there. If this decision, as I understand it, is strictly on the appeal -- an
appeal to the Historic Preservation Board, then it seems to me, the County
responded to every issue raised in that appeal and successfully answered all those
questions. And so, I would hope that you refer to that -- I'm sure you've referred to
that -- and take that into account in making your decision. If, as many people here
today seem to want to bring it to the broader issue again, as has been discussed
many times, about which plan makes the most sense, the one plan, the 300 -seat
theater, GroveStage [sic] has been vetted, it's been analyzed, it's been all through
levels of every governmental level, and approved; it's on its way. It is the only plan
that exists on paper, as opposed to being in people's imaginations and thoughts.
This is the plan that I urge you to please go with. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. You're recognized, sir.
Steven Weinger: Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Steve Weinger. I live at 1881
South Bayshore Drive, and my office building that I own and business that I operate
is at 2650 Southwest 27th Avenue; each of them is within half a mile or a mile of
here and of the Coconut Grove Playhouse. And I'm also the president and chairman
of the board as a volunteer of the Coconut Grove -- of the GableStage, which has the
contract to operate the theater on that site; awarded by the State of Florida, together
with the award to Florida International University and to the County. We didn't just
show up and-- this week or this month or this year. This is a project that we've been
developing with the County, with FIU, for a period of five years. It went through
every stage of the development process and every form of public hearing and the
opportunities. So when you hear about this new plan, the new plan was actually
presented to the County Commission as a contender, and the County Commission
unanimously rejected it and entered into an agreement with us. The 700 -seat theater
was argued before the County Commission. The County Commission unanimously
rejected that idea. The theat -- we've -- now we're at the stage of development,
where the develop -- the actual plans for the theater are well underway; we'll be
done in a matter of months, and then we can put it out to bid, break ground, and
have construction start on that theater in nine months. The alternative apparently is
to start from scratch with somebody who, two years ago, said they would come up
with the money from private sources and didn't; one year ago, said the same thing;
and now says, `Just put everything off for another half a year and maybe I can come
up with the money. " We have a real plan, we have full funding, and we have a team
of fine architects and architectural historians. Mr. Heisenbottle and his proposal, he
was not the successful bidder as an architect to design this plan. He didn't file a
successful bid protest. He was not awarded the contract, and now he's coming in
three years later, three and a half years later to announce that he has a better idea.
Everybody drives by the Playhouse. Everybody's seen it deteriorating, and
everybody had an opportunity at every stage in this process. At this point, the issue
before you I believe is fairly narrow, which is whether we -- our team and the
historians and architects that we've brought -- put together have adequately
presented an argument to support the Historic Preservations [sic] Board's decision
as to the proper way to preserve the historically significant aspects of the project,
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and I believe they've successfully done that. And we're ready to go, and we have a
good plan. And in the end, I think you'll see something that you'll be proud of and
I'll be proud of and happy to drive by, and which will, in fact, preserve all of the
historically significant elements of that site. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. You're recognized, ma'am. Welcome back.
Carol Lopez -Bethel: Thank you. May name is Carol Lopez -Bethel. I reside at 3907
Loquat Avenue. And Chairman, I thank you very much for recognizing my face,
because I am often here on the -- under the pretext and the hope of preserving the
jewel that is Coconut Grove. You'll see me here. I feel like I'm here once a month.
This has been perhaps the fifth or sixth hearing in the last four to five years that I
have attended regarding the Coconut Grove Playhouse. During that time, I have sat
through many bellicose and verbose presentations given by the County that have left
us where we are today, which is essentially nowhere, other than having spent about
$2 million worth of architectural fees with Arquitectonica, and we're still at a dead
halt with a plan that residents do not want. I sat through --about a few weeks ago,
and I sat through a lot of blue shirts, and I don't -- what I would like to have is a
headcount of those blue shirts that actually live in Coconut Grove and have to deal
with what we deal with where we live. I think that there -- those of us, we have
something to say, and it is important. I asked the -- on my last visit here, I asked the
Historic Preservation Board to take a leadership role, and I spoke about Solomon,
all right? You remember the -- we have two people who say, "This is my baby. This
is my baby. " Coconut Grove Theater is our baby, those of us who live here, and the
GableStage and the County, and Arquitectonica want to do what they want to do
with what they perceive to be their baby. I am asking the Commission to take a
leadership role. Don't kill the baby; give it to its rightful parent. Thank you.
Sheryl Levine Pappas: Hi. My name is Sheryl Levine Pappas, and I worked at the
Coconut Grove Playhouse, backstage. I was wardrobe mistress. It is very personal
to me that this theater get revived and restored. I would like to point out that a
gentleman just said that it is going to be historically restored, but it has not been
brought to the attention that Timothy Parsons, the director of the Division of
Historical Resources and the State Historic Preservation Officer, turned down a
grant that Mr. Spring put in for, because the current County plans do not preserve
the historic nature of the Playhouse enough. This is important, because it was voted
on to restore and preserve the Playhouse; not just build a new one. Also, in my
opinion, the plan that is now before you is too small. The backstage area is way too
inadequate. The scene shop was very poorly planned. And it is lovely to have a
theater there, but it's -- a city this size should have an important theater, and a 300 -
seat theater is not an important theater. The idea of paring with the school is
wonderful. The teaching aspect of it is great, but it can be done with the larger
theater, as well. But my main concern is that why is nothing being said about the
grant that was denied, due to the fact that the historic nature has not been taken into
account by the new design? I would like to offer my support for the second design,
the two -theater design. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, sir.
Howard Rogat: Good evening. My name is Howard Rogat. I'm a 10 year resident
of Boca Raton. For over three decades, I've worked in the nonprofit institutional
theater and Broadway commercial theater as a manager and press agent. My
credits include the Kennedy Center (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Repertory Theater, and 21
years at Jujamcyn Theaters, one of the three major Broadway theater owners and
operators, serving for 10 years as general manager, and supervising the award-
winning restorations of its five landmark Broadway theaters. I hold a Master's
Degree in theater administration from Yale, and was a professor and co -headed the
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Master's Degree Program in theater management, and producing at Columbia
University. Miami and its surrounding metropolitan area possess the demographics
for a new, exciting, and first-rate institutional theater of prominence and
importance. In my opinion, the best bet for a flourishing, new regional theater in
Miami is the plan proposed by two visionaries with proven track records: Mike
Eidson, a respected lawyer, with Arsht Performing Arts Center and Miami City
Ballet Board and fundraising experience; and Richard Heisenbottle, a respected
architect and preservationist. Looking at other successful league of
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) theater operations in comparable markets across the country,
statistical research proves that a fiscally prudent and responsible business plan,
focusing on audience, community, and fundraising development, requires a venue of
at least 700 seats to capitalize on vital weekends and holiday income potential. A
300 -seat venue would seriously limit revenue growth, would negatively impact on
individual, corporate, and foundation fundraising initiatives, and would not create
enough foot traffic to help revitalize downtown Coconut Grove. The potential of
resounding success exists with the two -theater, historically restored Coconut Grove
Playhouse plan, combining a rich theatrical legacy, responsible historic
preservation, Twenty -First Century technology, and progressive artistic
programming. The Eidson/Heisenbottle proposal provides a sound and resourceful
mission and plan to make this dream happen. Thank you for your consideration.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir. You're recognized, sir. Change your
jacket. You're still recognized.
Williams Armbrister: Praise the Lord, Jesus. Williams Alfred Armbrister, Sr. is my
name. And somehow, things have gotten a bit confused with this Coconut Grove
Playhouse -- and good evening to all of you wonderful people at the sound of my
voice -- because it's gone from preservation/restoration, 300 to expansion, 700 to
compromising, 450. The acreage currently there barely supports what is there now.
And if you expand the parking, you're going to impose on the community and the
traffic, something that it can't handle. That area cannot handle a 700 -seat theater.
Maybe the folks who want the theater might like it in their neighborhood, but that
theater is in my neighborhood, and we've had enough problem with traffic, with
what's happening up there in the village right now. The expansion of that parking
garage won't be a good idea for that community and for Coconut Grove as a whole.
It has never offered anything to the community that it's, in other than being there. So
if they're going to preserve it, restore it, which is good, I agree; expansion, I totally
disagree; compromise, 450, it just won't handle. There's not enough acreage there
for what it desires for the Playhouse. The type of revenue they want to bring into
that Playhouse, there is not enough acreage there. I thank for your time, and please
consider not doing any more damage to the immediate abutting community than has
already been done and is currently being done on a regular basis. Be well. Be
blessed.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. You're recognized, ma'am.
Rachel Cardello: Hi. My name is Rachel Cardello. I live at 2175 Tigertail Avenue.
And I think the specific issue here regarding the appeal is that the continued delay,
we will end up without anything to save if we continue to progress this conversation
to the umpth degree, so I do want to see something move forward as immediate as
possible, and that's what I would ask the Commissioners to consider. In terms of the
specifics of the two plans that's, you know, constantly the debate, that's really not
part of what I think your decision is, but in that regard, I do feel that the 450 theater
that is currently being kind of talked about and last mentioned at the town hall
meeting is probably the most appropriate in terms of theater size for the area, and I
say that only because I don't think the traffic or the size of the parking garage being
proposed could handle anything larger. That being said, though, the parking garage
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that is connected to the Arquitectonica plan is grossly over parked to support a 300 -
or 450 -seat theater. And I think that they're trying to make up for a lack of parking
in other projects that are currently approved for that area, so I don't think that the
theater area should take the burden of that required additional parking to support
the Grove. I'd rather see a smaller parking garage, which means I'd rather see a
smaller park -- theater seat. So the worst thing that we could see -- or the best thing,
if you call it -- is that they have to add more performances to sold -out crowds every
night. That's my hope; if we have a 450- or 300 -seat theater, that that's what we
have, that much foot traffic, that much attendance. I'm concerned about the larger
theater, but my biggest concern is the delay in decisions, and the neglect that will
then leave us with nothing to save. Thankyou.
Gloriana Calhoun: My name is Gloriana Calhoun. I live at 3665 Park Lane. I want
to speak from a different perspective just for a second. I worked in New York in the
theater for many years. I worked with actors, producers, directors, on and off
Broadway. We worked on performances that came down here to Coconut Grove;
people came, put their children in the schools around; the actors, they became part
of the community. This theater has a reputation that goes way beyond Coconut
Grove. And when you're in New York and you're on Broadway or off Broadway and
you mention the Coconut Grove Theater, you get a plethora of stories from people
that have performed there and would love to come back there. And Coconut Grove
needs something to keep us all together. We need something that'll be historically
sane. And the other plan for the theater, with the other theater on the side, works.
Please consider that. Thankyou.
Lisa Remeny: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Lisa Remeny. I'm a long-
time resident of the Grove and a native of Miami. And I remember voting on a bond
to preserve and reconstruct this building, not to tear it down. It seems to me there's
been several million dollars spent over the last 11 years, making presentations for
this plan. I don't understand how that happened, and I've been to every one of these
meetings. I've never heard Richard Heisenbottle's plan, but one time, and that
wasn't in a Commission meeting or a City Hall meeting. Please preserve this
building, please. We voted on it, and I don't --and that's what we want. Thankyou.
John Nordt: John Nordt; been in Coconut Grove for 70 years, which is hard to say.
I used to go to the Playhouse in the `60s and the `70s, and `80s. This is our Sidney
Opera House. This is what we live for and what we've been to for years and years.
And until Middleman and -- Ferre left and Middleman came, it was viable, it was
very viable, and they handled traffic for 1,100 -seat theater. And the bottom line is, is
this horse race started uneven. There was no proper vetting of both sides. I've only
heard the Heisenbottle plan presented on e-mail. I've never seen it really presented.
We stayed at the Miami -Dade County Auditorium and listened to two and a half
hours of the other side. I just think that there should be some evenness, equal vetting
of this horse race. And I think that there's a -- I understand there's $20 million that
is not going to be available through the -- to the State if the courthouse -- if the
Playhouse is not preserved in toto. You chop off the back end of it and preserve the
fagade, that's not a preservation of the Playhouse, and that's what this County plan's
all about. And I urge you to listen to the Heisenbottle. I'd like to have him have the
proper time to talk about it, as all the other citizens of Coconut Grove. And by the
way, my son is going to be finishing theater in Boston, and I'd like to have him come
down and do the theater; 800 or 900 will be good. You don't put Westside Story on a
300 -seat theater. Thankyou.
Max Pearl: I'm Max Pearl, a 50 year resident, born native ofMiami, Florida; grew
up in Coconut Grove; didn't live in the Grove, but we had a boat here in Slip 52 in
Dinner Key; spent every -- virtually every weekend in the Grove, so it was like my
backyard. We're surrounded with an irony so thick, you can cut it with a mangrove
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machete. Just think of the irony. As we all sit here today, I'd ask everyone to look at
the walls around you and the ceiling above you. This building we are in today was
built in the 1930s. Forty years after it was built, in 1975 it was put on the National
Registry of Historic Places. Its beautiful restoration, by the way, is the work of Mr.
Richard Heisenbottle. You could thank him for this preservation of this building. So
we are surrounded by this irony. The City Hall building we are in to determine the
fate of the Coconut Grove Playhouse is protected by Federal Historic Designation,
but the Coconut Grove Playhouse, which was built a decade earlier, has no such
Federal protection on the National Registry. Ponder that for a moment. Don't get
me wrong; I'm grateful our local politicians enjoy work space that is safe and
historically preserved, but why aren't the citizens given the same ability to have their
Coconut Grove Playhouse safeguarded; to enjoy an even more renowned historic
place than City Hall, a playhouse that legally belongs to the people of Florida; a
theater owned by the people, where citizens get only 90 seconds to talk, while the
special interest developers, who made the front page of headlines, destroying
protected mangroves and wetlands, get hours of talk time at numerous so-called
public town hall meetings? There was no public town hall meeting. This was the
typical back and forth. There was no dialogue between the decision makers and the
citizens. So let me cut to the chase. What made the Playhouse historically
significant, what gave it its heyday was not the time period when it was a movie
house, but rather, when George Engle, this man's grandfather, re -envisioned it as a
live theater venue. That's an indisputable fact. Post -1956 was its heyday. Some talk
a good bit about a boom -and -bust cycle. We hear that on the propaganda video put
on the County website, which is full of misinformation. And by the way, the so-called
rebuttal or response to FAQs (frequently asked questions) on the County website is a
mix of half-truths and outright, blatant mistruths. But if it weren't for that part of its
past history as a live theater venue, we wouldn't all be here battling over its future.
The Playhouse, in its last 23 years, had 125,000 patrons annually, who also
patronized local businesses and restaurants, contributing 40 percent of the Grove's
economy. Historic preservation and economic revival are not mutually exclusive;
they are interdependent. South Beach's historic Art Deco District and Coral Gables
are proof that historically preserved districts are where tourist dollars go. The
ballot item from 2004 vote on the County bonds, as someone just stated, this was our
taxpayer funded bond monies that we understood would be used to restore, not
demolish this greatest of our cultural treasures. We're surrounded by irony. You'll
often hear people respond to the latest news from our area with the commonly heard
response, "Only in Miami. " Only in Miami do we find the irony that a historic
preservation board votes to demolish the most cultural site in South Florida, and
strangely, they made that vote just months after voting in favor of putting the
Coconut Grove Playhouse on the National Registry. Do they really think the facade,
or as they euphemistically call it, the "historic building, " is what made the
Playhouse historic? Do you, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Commissioners, believe the history
is all in the facgade? Because the vast majority of the thousands ofpeople I've spoken
to on my Facebook page, with over 10,800 followers I've spoken to over the years,
seem to recall the history, did not happen in the facade.
Chair Hardemon: Sir, your time period has expired by more than two minutes.
Mr. Pearl: Okay. I'll just wrap it up. It happened -- history happened in the
auditorium, where Marlin Brando and President Harry Truman sat, watching its
shows. Liza Minelli, Henry Fonda, George C. Scott, Denzel Washington, Chico
Marks, Milton Beryl; Bert Lahr from the Wizard of Oz; Tennessee Williams, David
Letterman all performed and staged their artistic works. The history is not in the
fagade.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
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Mr. Pearl: Thank you.
Andy Parrish: Good evening, Commissioners. My name's Andy Parrish. I live at
3736 Irvington Avenue. I hope Commissioner Gort is listening, because I know he
was around. I was the chairman of the Historic and Environmental Preservation
Board when this building, Grove Playhouse, was designated historic, and I
remember it really well for a couple of reasons; one is it was hotly contested, lots of
hearings, lot of pressure on the board both ways. And I'm proud to say that the
board courageously voted in favor of the designation. And within a week, I was
handed a legal file; said, "This is a suit that we're filing against you personally for
taking the stand you did in feeding the charge to declare this building historic. "
Fortunately, that was never filed, so I'm glad to say that I wasn't involved in a big
lawsuit on that. But today we're back again, all these years later. And I just want to
submit to you that the real issue -- one of the real issues is trust. I know my fellow
Grovites. You know, we've been in the battle with Home Depot. We're a pain in the
butt for you Commissioners. We probably occupy more of your time than any other
district. But they love their Grove, and they trust Richard Heisenbottle to do this
right; that's what it's about. If you select -- if you involve Richard Heisenbottle in
doing this building, you will have the trust of the Grovites; not only that, I know from
the last meeting that I attended that there is a shortfall of money. Well, I read in the
Herald the other day that Area Code 305 is one of the wealthiest precincts -- or
districts in the whole United States. And I think the Grovites, if you select Richard
Heisenbottle to do this project, will rally behind it and raise that money. Personally,
I will contribute. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I will contribute to that effort
personally, my wife and I. So I urge you in the strongest possible terms, hire the
trusted architect that the Grove will trust and will do a great job, as you can see, and
that's Richard Heisenbottle. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir. Sir, you're recognized.
Julian Kreeger: If it please, your honors. My name is Julian Kreeger. I live in
Hermitage for the past 32 years. I've been president of the Friends of Chamber
Music of Miami. We bring internationally -acclaimed chamber soloists,
instrumentalists to Miami for concerts in this area and for master classes. And I
want to urge you to adopt the plan that has been previously approved by the State,
County, and FIU, and I believe that has been designed by Bernardo Fort -Brescia.
And we need a wonderful, acoustically superb concert hall in this area for chamber
music and instrumental music. And so, I want to urge you to adopt it.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir.
Mr. Kreeger: Thank you very much.
Steve Massey: Evening. My name is Steve Massey. I live in Abitare, across the
street from the Playhouse; been therefor a long time; life-long Miami resident. And
the Grove Playhouse, in its existing state, has been part of my life. When I was a kid,
I was an actor there. Later on, we used to walk over to the shows. And I heard the
gentleman earlier speaking about the parking. I never remember the parking being
a problem or the traffic being a problem when the Playhouse was in its original
form. What I remember was a vibrant Grove, and I remember people being bused
in, and I remember people walking over to the restaurants that then went out of
business, because the Playhouse wasn't there anymore. That's what I remember. I
remember a lot of the Grove died when that Playhouse died. And so, I'm here today
to support the efforts to preserve the Playhouse in its original form. Thank you very
much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. Ma'am, you're recognized.
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Melikah Jazz: Thank you. Good evening. My name is Melikah, and I don't live in
the Coconut Grove area. Actually, I live by the Doral. But I am a professional
vocalist, as well as an actress, and I am very concerned with the way that I have
grown up and been raised here in Miami since 1968, and the way that things have
been -- how the globalists have been taking over our landmark; you know, like
sucking up the landmark. And Coconut Grove is historic. We have the Bahamian
section of Coconut Grove and we need to respect that. We have the Coconut Grove
Playhouse at its state right now. 700 seats is fine, and it'll bring a lot of revenue.
We need -- since we have Rick Scott not supporting the film -- tax incentives, perhaps
with the new -- with Mr. Levine -- perhaps that would happen, and Coconut Grove
Playhouse will be in the midst of when the tax incentives -- the filming tax incentive
comes through. And we're doing this for our children -- okay? -- and to save our
landmark. I mean, when you have an architect that doesn't care anything about the
land -- because he's chopping off mangroves, healthy mangroves -- that must be a
very big red flag, okay? When you have an architect that is building high-rises to
bring about pornography, we have a very big issue. We're number two in human
trafficking, and a lot of these high-rises are bringing about producers that are into
pornography, and we're having it all over our City. Coconut Grove is not the place
for that. With Coconut Grove Playhouse as it is, we have to have faith, but we will if
we do the right thing. If we don't pocket money, okay, like whoremongers, then it'll
be a good theater, and it'll be good for our children's education towards art, because
that'll open up their mindset; and it'll be something good for elders, for the
community as a whole; not only for Coconut Grove residents, but as a whole,
everybody. So I ask that you please makeup your mind. Thank you very much --
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, ma'am.
Ms. Jazz: -- for the time. Thank you.
Stephen Rothenberg: Good evening, and my name is Stephen Rotenberg, and I want
to thank you all for your public service to this community. I'm here on a business
issue, and then I'd like to use a personal issue.
Commissioner Gort: Speak into the microphone.
Mr. Rothenberg: Yes, sir. I was the printer for the Coconut Grove Playhouse.
When they went out of business, they owed my $60,000.
Vice Chair Russell: Jesus.
Mr. Rothenberg: So I was forced, when they closed, to file a lawsuit, and I had a
final judgment. Well, the State of Florida indicated that they needed to pay all the
encumbrances. That was never paid to me, and I'm still in a situation now, so I feel
like that you don't have all the information as the City, and that you've been misled.
Now, on a personal issue, we -- I found it ironic, walking up to this beautiful building
tonight and seeing the historic-ness, and I'm sure that we could build a fancy
building, a beautiful building for the City of Miami, but this means something to me,
walking into this building. When you walk into the Playhouse, when you see that
Playhouse, for us, for future generations, I'm asking you to make the right decision
for the future of the City of Miami, Coconut Grove. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
Dawn Martinez: Good evening.
Chair Hardemon: Good evening.
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Ms. Martinez: My name is Dawn Martinez. I'm a second -generation Miami native,
and I am here to tell you that I think the preservation of the theater should remain. I
think it's important that you all, as elected officials, represent what the people want;
and it seems to me, by hearing all these speakers tonight, that we want the
preservation; not what a company or a developer or a very rich architect wants.
Please represent what the people want, and that is the preservation of this beautiful
building and the charm of Coconut Grove. Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Avra Jain: Hello. Avra Jain, 720 Northeast 69th Street, Miami, Florida. Chairman,
Commissioners, I'm here to speak on behalf of preservation and on the behalf of
Richard Heisenbottle's proposals. I understand and I appreciate that everybody
spent a lot of time on this; there's been a lot of community outreach and healthy
conversation. And I do think at times with historic preservation, you do want to have
compromise, but there are very few opportunities sometimes to preserve such a
unique gem. And I think in some of the work that we've been able to do at Vagabond
that we've shown that sometimes less is more; and so that, hopefully, you'll consider
this an opportunity we don't want to lose. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you. Sir, you're recognized.
Bruce Leslie: Hi. My name is Bruce Leslie. I am currently the executive director of
City Theater, and I was the general manager of the Coconut Grove Playhouse in the
late `90s. At the time that I was there, we were experiencing chunks of concrete
falling off of the ceiling and falling off of the walls; very serious public safety issues
that we were trying to correct. We -- I was there during the time that we did
renovations to the Encore Room Theater, and at the time we had to replace some
beams and some columns to support the building. I was there when they put up that
horrible -looking shoring outside the building, because there were concerns by the
engineers that the building was going to fall down. I was there when I was talking to
the engineers and asking them to give us six months with the shoring, because we
had a show that we were trying to put on in the Encore Room Theater, and they
argued and argued, but finally relented and said, "Okay, we can leave the shoring
up for six months. " It's been 20 years now that that's been there. I support the plan
that the County has put forward. The problems there -- there are structural
problems; they're not going to be fixed with epoxy and paint. There is going to need
to be some demolition of that building in order to replace key structural elements of
it. I hear both plans talking about different size theaters; one, 300; one, 700. The
current main auditorium is 1,100 seats. They talk about -- I'm hearing historic
preservation and the importance of that theater, but both plans are currently saying
what the historic size of the theater is needs to change, so I don't know that either
side has a higher moral ground in terms of historic preservation. The 700 -seat
model takes out the balcony. Well, that balcony's been there since 1955, '56, when
they opened it as a live theater. So both plans are talking about changing the
historic nature of that auditorium. Both sides are talking about putting support
spaces in the theater, which is a modification of what the theater was, so I don't think
one is necessarily more pure than the other one. But the point is that there is some
demolition that's going to have to happen there, and I've seen in both plans a real
emphasis on maintaining some of the key core elements of the building. Back when
we were there, we were trying to get the bathrooms ADA (Americans with
Disabilities Act) compliant, and we saw that there were other modifications that
were needing to be made. We called in historic preservationists to guide us, and
basically, they gave us about seven elements within the building that were
historically significant; one was the entryway, one was the proscenium, one was the
columns. I don't remember all the other ones, but there wasn't a huge list, and we
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said, "Oh, okay, we can deal with this and make the modifications that we need to
make. " So I urge you to decline the appeal and move forward with the approvals
that have already been made, and let this project continue. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. Welcome.
Arva Parks: Good evening. I am Arva Parks. I am a historian, and I did my
Master's thesis on Coconut Grove a long time ago, and I've been very involved in
loving it. And I also am the author of what you --I'm honored to say -- called your
official history of the City of Miami. I am a passionate preservationists. The theater
-- Believe it or not, I saw "Lassie Comes Home" in the theater when I was a little
girl, and it was second only to the Olympia on its grandeur and on -- of course,
Richard Keno is also a particularly important architect, and not only in Miami
history, but national history. But most of all, we're talking about preservation of the
entire theater. Look up, look up. You, I'm sure, know that this building was
threatened with demolition. It was the Pan American Terminal. It is now Miami
City Hall. We cannot say for sure that that particular building will always be a
theater; we just don't know that. But we do know if it's gone, it's gone. It is an entry
feature to historic Coconut Grove, the way it is shaped. The proscenium and the
arches and the -- it is beautiful inside. You remove a few things, and it's still there.
And if I had a dollar for every time someone told me a building was falling down, I
would be a gazillionaire and wouldn't have to be worrying about anything. There
was no salt water sand used in that building. Mr. Thomas, who was Mayor of
Coconut Grove; Estelle Overstreep (phonetic), my good friend, was his secretary.
She ordered the sand. So I've never had an eyewitness account. Every time
somebody wants to tear a building down -- "Oh, it's structurally unsound. It's got
salt water. " Don't listen to that. It is structurally sound. It was built by a fine
architect. It's not been cared for as it should have been, but it is not too late for it.
But once it's gone, it's gone. So I'm asking you please to support the entire
restoration of the historic theater that you have already named. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you. Sir, you're recognized.
Peter Haig: Yeah. I'm Peter Haig. I've been a professional actor in South Florida
since 1979, and I've worked at Actor's Playhouse at Miracle Theater and
GableStage; many productions at each. And I've worked two productions at the
Coconut Grove Playhouse, and I feel kind of sentimentally attached to it, except the
one day when I reported for rehearsal, and they said, "We cannot rehearse the
upstairs lobby because the ceiling fell in, so we would feel much safer in the
downstairs lobby, and don't pay any attention to the cracks in the column when some
of the plaster falls off. I know you've heard that it's rusted underneath, but it should
hold for now, so don't worry about that. " At least, I didn't have to worry about the
asbestos falling down, as Susie Wes fall did, as you heard last meeting. So there's
that tug there. Everybody loves how the old thing -- the old theater looked, but I
don't how much of it is really preserve -able. I think that you're going to start
uncovering more and more that has to be completely redone. You might wind up
raising the whole thing anyway. And as far as the first -- the 300- and the 700 -seat
theaters are concerned, I was amazed to hear last meeting that the 300 -seat theater
was not considered viable, but a 700 -seat theater, that's the way to go. Of course,
the Coconut Grove Playhouse went out of business and into severe bankruptcy,
trying to fill that theater in the past. But GableStage has been going through
decades now and survives and is ready to move in, and it has an established
structure. And what are you going to put in the 700 -seat theater that you're sure is
going to pay off? Thank you.
Chamara Porcher: Hi. My name is Chamara Porcher. I am a Coconut Grove
resident, born and raised one block up from Coconut Grove Playhouse, and also a
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student of the arts as a child in Coconut Grove. Coconut Grove Playhouse has
always been a staple for me growing up and for others in the community that
followed in the direction of the arts with the Coconut Grove Children's Theater at
that time. And I do recall going to the Playhouse in the `90s. The last production I
saw there was like an English comedy, which actually was very funny. And I think,
for the community as a whole and bringing the arts to the children in the community
and having the historical value added to that will be very beneficial for them, giving
them something to look forward to and something to appreciate.
Clark Nobil: Good afternoon, everybody. My name's Clark Nobil. I'm a season
ticket buyer and charitable supporter of GableStage. I don't know if any of you are
appalled at the way a small group of individuals appears to be acting in concert to
intentionally delay and derail the County plan, agreed to by FIU and GableStage,
but I am. Moreover, the plan has also been endorsed by two of GableStage's own
competitors, Barbara Stein, of Actor's Playhouse and Stuart Blumberg, of the
Adrienne Arsht Center, who both warn of the dangers of trying to fill a 700 -seat
theater. But that still doesn't seem to deter this small group of determined people
bent on forcing a money-losing albatross onto the public's neck. Moreover, while
two weeks ago, in these very same chambers, Commissioner Suarez seemed to
excoriate Mr. Eidson for not having privately raised the extra $15 million he had
promised by then. Mr. Suarez now says Mr. Eidson can take another, quote, "90
days to secure the funds, plus at least $1 million in a reserve fund for operational
losses. " Why the extension, and why only another $1 million for operating losses?
How was that number determined, and by whom? And what if the losses run into the
multimillions of dollars every year instead? Who should pay for that? The
taxpayers? Wouldn't requiring an extra 5 to $10 million in operating reserves have
made more sense, especially, given the inherently risky nature of such a larger
theater? And two weeks ago, when Mr. Heisenbottle unveiled his overhead projector
rendering of what this newly proposed theater fagade would look like, did anyone
happen to notice Mr. Heisenbottle misspelled his own name, spelling it H -I -Z -Z -E -N-
B -O -T -T -L -E instead? Is this the kind of faulty attention to detail we should expect
from those who want to lead us into a two -theater debacle in the future? Or
perhaps, is it now finally time to pull the curtain on their foolish plan and demolish
the old theater, and rebuild and repurpose that property along the established
Countyline plan? Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. You're recognized, sir.
George Engle: Good evening. My name is George Engle. I live in West Kendall,
here in Miami, born and raised, for the last 50 years. I came up here not knowing
what I was going to say exactly. I've heard a lot of words thrown around; one of
them was `gem"; one of them was "movie house"; one of them was "theater."
However, when my grandfather -- I believe when he took over the Playhouse, his
dream was -- it was exactly that; it was a dream. There was nothing for sure. He
took a chance; he made it work. I said it before, we are a very wealthy city. Another
person in this room mentioned that the 305 is one of the top two wealthiest in the
nation; may or may not be true. One thing I do know to be true: If this building is
so deteriorated and in such bad shape -- to my knowledge, there is no Certificate of
Occupancy -- how is it possible? I ask any of you sitting up there behind this large,
fancy desk, would you walk into this building without personal protection, with some
sort of equipment that would protect you from falling concrete?
Chair Hardemon: I was born and raised in public housing; I'll walk in everywhere.
I just want you to know that.
Mr. Engle: Okay. All right.
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(Applause)
Chair Hardemon: Good job.
Mr. Engle: We're watching y'all. Okay. So I witnessed with my own eyes four
people walking into this building that is supposedly crumbling, with no hard hats, no
reinforced steel toe boots, as required by law. They just walked in. They weren't
afraid. I think a lot of what you're hearing may be stories that are not true. A lot of
it is probably true, but a lot of it is not. I don't know who the wolf in sheep's clothing
is, but there is definitely one. And for someone to say that that building is not
salvageable does not know what they're talking about, because there have been
worse buildings in worse shape that have been restored and are still standing and
flourishing today. One last thing I want to leave you guys with is that my
grandfather was very, very extremely wealthy in the oil industry. Why would he
leave that to come to the Grove? We're talking, a million dollars in the 1950s is
equivalent to roughly $50 million today. That's what he put into the Playhouse when
he took it over in the `50s, and it did flourish for many years. No guarantees; he
took a chance and made it work. That was his dream. His legacy has been
neglected. It has been sitting there in hopes that a hurricane would blow it away.
It's still standing, and it will continue to stand, I believe, because that's what the
people voted for, that's what they have the bonded money for. I don't even
understand why we're here today and what -- let me -- ask yourselves a better
question: In the last four years, of the $20 million that has been set aside, who's
been making money off of this? And there you'll find your answer as to why it's been
taking so long to get something done to restore-- not rebuild -- to restore this
Playhouse -- not theater -- this Playhouse -- to be successful, like it was already
voted on. It's redundant, what we are doing.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou, sir. Sir, you're recognized.
Jonathan Rose: Jonathan Rose, 5 Island Avenue, Miami Beach, Florida. I'm co-
founder and current president of Culture in the City. I'm a cultural arts advocate
and an attorney.
Chair Hardemon: Just pull the microphone towards your face.
Mr. Rose: Okay. The last meeting was the Historical [sic] Preservation Board; I
was here, and I spoke in favor of the County plan. The Mayor of Miami -Dade was
here. The Lieutenant Governor was here, saying -- telling us what he put in, the
work that he's put in for -- toward it. Michael Spring was here. The Dade County
Plan calls for Joseph Adler to have a 300 -seat theater in the old Playhouse. Miami -
Dade Auditorium and Actor's Playhouse now hold their performances in the black
boxes. I've been to performances in the Coconut Grove Playhouse, in Miami -Dade
Auditorium, and in Actor's Playhouse, when they had their full theater. They were
never full. The full theater is the equivalent of a 700 -seat theater. I'm not sure if it
was ever full. In the old days, sure, it was full. They brought people down in
busloads from the retirement homes. I favor the County plan. GableStage is self-
sufficient; has carried on at a profit, small profit, for all these years, and I think
there should be a -- the County Plan should be approved. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. Sir, you are recognized.
Miguel Badilla: Thank you very much. Good evening. My name is Miguel Aguilar
Badilla. I reside at 625 Biltmore Way. I'm a native of Argentina, and I've been
residing in this wonderful country of ours for the past 52 years. I'm a former actor,
TV (television) host for Telemundo and Univision Networks, as well as 25 years of
artistic director for the Latin Quarter Cultural Center. I'm currently a theatrical
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producer. Let me start by commending Mr. Richard Heisenbottle's plan for his
precise and exquisite rendering, and most of all, for his true vision and
understanding of what a historical theater is all about. Gentlemen, we have here in
our hands a win-win situation, and should take advantage of it immediately. This
two -theater plan is the only logical plan; it makes everyone happy; unless, of course,
your intentions are not for the theater but for something else. This better plan, a
700 -plus -seat theater, managed by the foundation, and a 200 -seat studio theater,
managed by FIU, makes it a multi -use and multi -culture facility, and that is precisely
what the Playhouse used to be and should be once again; a venue that produces and
presents local, national, and international productions, and guests artists from all
over the world, thus, unifying cultures and securing economic stability for the
theater and the downtown Coconut Grove. The point is, we're always saying,
"Miami, a melting pot, the gateway of the Americas. " Well, the logical and only
plan, a two -theater, we can then reach out to this thirsty -driven clientele of diverse
cultures for quality productions in their own language, as it was done back in the
`80s, implemented by the visionary, legendary actor, Jose Ferrer, who created the
bilingual theater program that has produced regional theater in both languages, as
well as intimate concerts and special events with local, national, and international
artists; once again, maximizing audience capacity and revenue. The Coconut Grove
definitely deserves a better plan. Happy holidays. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir. Seeing no further persons, I'll close
the public hearing on the PZ agenda, and because --
Vice Chair Russell: The other PZ items, I don't believe people have spoken.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Vice Chair Russell: Are they going to wait until after this item --
Chair Hardemon: No, no.
Vice Chair Russell: -- or is this --?
Chair Hardemon: I believe everyone had an opportunity to speak. If you're here
and you want to speak on any other PZ agenda item, I want to make it very clear that
this is your opportunity to be heard. Is there anyone here that wants to speak on
other PZ agenda items?
Commissioner Gort: You opened it up for everybody.
Chair Hardemon: Right. So seeing no other person that wants to speak on any PZ
agenda item any further, I'm going to close the public hearing for PZ agenda at this
moment. And so, the 5:30 time certain was for the hearing of the decision for PZ. 6,
so we'll call PZ.6 at this time. I'm sure we have an appellant, sure we have an
appellee; and I believe the City, as well. So what I'll do is, I'll give --
Vice Chair Russell: One last speaker, I think.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. One second. I'll give the City an opportunity to make an
introduction, and then the -- whoever is the appellant to make an introduction, and
then the appellee. And so, in the introduction, please, just tell us what it is that
you're looking to accomplish, so don't lay out your entire case; just what it is that
you want us to consider and how you want us to vote on this matter. You can give us
some -- of course, some reasoning for your decision-making that we should consider,
and then we'll go back into the substantive argument and have an opportunity to
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cross-examine witnesses, if you want to, or any rebuttal, or anything of that nature,
okay? Ma'am, I'm going to extend the public hearing just for you, okay?
Sally Stern: Pardon? What?
Chair Hardemon: I'm going to extend the public hearing just for you, okay?
Ms. Stern: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: You're very welcome. You have two minutes to address this body.
State your first name, your last name, and you may state your address, but just tell us
what it is that you're here to discuss.
Ms. Stern: I thought I was going to be called, so I waited But anyway, I am -- my
name is Sally Stern. Did you say my address?
Chair Hardemon: If you may; you don't have to.
Ms. Stern: Okay. Well, then I won't. I'm here --
Chair Hardemon: I tried to help you, Sarah [sic], but it didn't work out.
Ms. Stern: -- to support the preservation of the Coconut Grove Playhouse as it
exists, but preserve the interior and exterior. I've grown up in Miami, and I have
seen the destruction of our community. Miami Beach, Coral Gables is pretty good;
South Miami. I think it's imperative that we keep the character of our City. I've
already traveled down that block just on the way to this meeting, and it is
unbelievable. There's hardly anything left. The old Taurus is a big monstrosity.
Everything goes out of business there. The -- Coco Walk is going out of business.
Mayfair is not doing well. I don't know if it's all closed. There's -- this newness is
not necessarily better. I mean, if Paris decided to tear down the Eiffel Tower
because it's from the 1800s, I don't think that would be a good decision. We need to
keep the character of this city, and we need to allow the public funds to be used for
things that are for the public; not for a private theater group. The theater group
isn't important. They can be hired after the theater is preserved. But I'm definitely
against a five -story garage. It's very ugly, and I'm not even thrilled about the new
version. We need to keep things at eye level. Coconut Grove does not need to be
another Brickell. And I pray and hope that you all will preserve the character of
Coconut Grove and the City of Miami. Thankyou very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Mr. Mayor, you're recognized.
Mayor Francis Suarez: Yeah. I'll be very brief. I just didn't -- I missed this in my
introductory comments. PZ.22, which is the Ransom SAP (Special Area Plan).
Ransom is an incredible institution in our community that has been educating our
youth for decades, and I just wanted to voice my support for that application, for
their mission. I've had an opportunity to meet with -- I guess it's their headmaster.
Is it the headmaster? Yes. And they're doing not only wonderful things as an
institution and an educational learning institution, but they're also doing things to
reach out into the community, into the Coconut Grove community; and so, I
commend them for that. I support them in their efforts, and I want to continue
working with them to reach out to the West Grove community that they provide many
scholarships to, and that they have many programs that address some of the needs in
that community. Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
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PZ.1 ORDINANCE Second Reading
1049 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Planning NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 1247 SOUTHWEST 4 STREET AND 1244
SOUTHWEST 3 STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM T4 -L, "GENERAL
URBAN TRANSECT ZONE - LIMITED", TO T5-0, "URBAN CENTER
TRANSECT ZONE - OPEN"; ACCEPTING THE VOLUNTARY
PROFFER OF A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT RUNNING WITH THE
LAND; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Continue
RESULT: CONTINUED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.1 was continued to the January 25, 2018, Planning
and Zoning Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.1, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning
Item (s). "
PZ.2 ORDINANCE Second Reading
1909 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, SPECIFICALLY BY AMENDING
Planning ARTICLE 1, SECTION 1.5, ENTITLED "DEFINITIONS OF ART IN
PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM"; ARTICLE 3, SECTION 3.17, ENTITLED
"PUBLIC ART REQUIREMENTS"; AND ARTICLE 11, ENTITLED "ART
IN PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM," TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC ART
REQUIREMENTS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN IMMEDIATE
EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Indefinitely Defer
RESULT: INDEFINITELY DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
For minutes referencing Item PZ.2, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning
Item (s). "
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PZ.3 ORDINANCE Second Reading
1972 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
Planning OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 1, SECTION 1.2,
ENTITLED "DEFINITIONS OF TERMS," ARTICLE 4, TABLE 3,
ENTITLED "BUILDING FUNCTION: USES," AND ARTICLE 6, TABLE
13, ENTITLED "SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS"; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.3 was deferred to the January 11, 2018, Regular
Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.3, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning
Item (s). "
PZA ORDINANCE First Reading
3109 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
Planning OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, MORE SPECIFICALLY BY
AMENDING ARTICLE 1, SECTION 1.2 ENTITLED "DEFINITIONS OF
TERMS," ARTICLE 3, SECTION 3.6, ENTITLED "OFF-STREET
PARKING AND LOADING STANDARDS," ARTICLE 3, SECTION 3.14,
ENTITLED "PUBLIC BENEFITS PROGRAM," ARTICLE 4, TABLE 4,
ENTITLED "DENSITY, INTENSITY, AND PARKING," AND ARTICLE 4,
TABLE 7, ENTITLED "CIVIC SPACE TYPES," TO PROVIDE FOR
FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE
UNDERLINE CORRIDOR; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.4 was deferred to the January 11, 2018, Regular
Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.4, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning
Item (s). "
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PZ.5
RESOLUTION
3113
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), DENYING OR GRANTING THE APPEAL,
Planning
AFFIRMING OR REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING,
AYES:
ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD, THEREBY DENYING OR
ABSENT:
GRANTING VARIANCES PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 5, SECTION
5.3.1(E); ARTICLE 7, SECTION 7.1.2.7(A); AND OFFSTREET
PARKING GUIDES AND STANDARDS OF THE MIAMI 21 CODE, THE
ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, TO ALLOW A RELAXATION OF THE SIDE AND REAR
SETBACKS IN T3-0 AND REDUCTION OF PARKING AND GREEN
AREA AS FOLLOWS: A) SIDE SETBACK (EAST) OF 3'10" (5'0"
REQUIRED, REQUEST TO WAIVE 12"); B) REAR SETBACK (SOUTH)
OF 5'10" (20'0" REQUIRED, REQUEST TO WAIVE 142"); C) PARKING
OF 3 SPACES (4 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED, REQUEST TO
WAIVE 1); D) REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED FIVE (5) FEET YARD
OF GREEN AREA AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE,
WHEN THE DRIVEWAY IS ADJACENT TO A PROPERTY LINE:
PROPOSED 2'3" (REQUIRED 5'0", REQUEST TO WAIVE 2'9"), FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1772
NORTHWEST 30TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: R-17-0623
MOTION TO:
Adopt with Modification(s)
RESULT:
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER:
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Gort, Hardemon, Carollo
ABSENT:
Russell, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.5, please see
"Public Comment Period for Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Commissioner Gort: PZ.5.
Chair Hardemon: PZ. 5.
Commissioner Gort: PZ.5, go.
Chair Hardemon: Please, present PZ (Planning & Zoning) --
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Yes, thank you. Item PZ.5 is
before you as a resolution, appealing a set of denials for variances requested for a
property at 1772 Northwest 301h Street. I'll read quickly into the record what those
variances are for. They are for the side setback on the east. The setback provided
would be three feet, ten inches, where the required setback is five feet. The rear
setback on the south, the setback provided will be for 5 feet, 10 inches, where the
required setback is 20. The parking requirement, which is presently four parking
spaces, provided will be three spaces, so their variance will be for one space. And in
addition, a reduction of the required five foot green area next to the property line, it
will be from the property line in the driveway, which will be reduced to two feet,
three inches. I will say briefly into the record that the existing structure, which does
not comply with the applicable setbacks as described, would also not have complied
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with the setbacks available under the previous zoning ordinances. And what the
applicant is before you attempting to complete is a permit for construction after the
fact for some additions made to the original structure without the benefit of permits.
In order to be able to process those permits and receive approval of those permits,
these variances would be required; without them, they'd have to demolish part of the
structure and bring it into compliance. Our recommendation is for denial, as was
the recommendation of the PZAB (Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board).
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman, this is my district. And if you look at the back
information you have in there, you can see that the back of the setback in the
backyard, it goes into a parking lot. The lots behind them is a large lot, which is the
affordable housing -- three buildings of affordable housing, so I don't have any
problem. I talked to the neighbors; I don't have any problem with making --Move it
for approval. They've been at it for over seven years, working on this, trying to
bring it up to corrections.
Chair Hardemon: So you're approving the -- you're granting the appeal.
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. It's been properly moved to grant the appeal of -- It's
been properly moved to grant the appeal, reversing the decision of the Planning,
Zoning & Appeals Board. Is there any unreadiness? Well, that's the motion; the
Chair seconds it. Is there any further discussion with that motion that's on the
floor? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Unidentified Speaker: Thankyou very much. Have a good evening.
Chair Hardemon: You're welcome.
PZ.6
RESOLUTION
2170
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION
GRANTING/DENYING THE APPEAL FILED BY BARBARA LANGE
Department of
AND KATRINA MORRIS, REVERSING/AFFIRMING THE DECISION
Planning
OF THE MIAMI HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION
BOARD'S APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL
DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, THE
RECONSTRUCTION OF A THEATRE, AND THE NEW
CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING GARAGE WITH RESIDENTIAL
UNITS AT THE INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC SITE
KNOWN AS THE COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE, LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3500 MAIN HIGHWAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: R-17-0622
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MOTION TO:
Adopt with Modification(s)
RESULT:
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER:
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort,
NAYS:
Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record: A motion was made by Commissioner Reyes, seconded by
Vice Chair Russell, and was passed unanimously, with Chair Hardemon absent, to
grant standing to Barbara Lange and Katrina Moss pursuant to Code Section 17-
8(b), for Item PZ. 6.
A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Reyes,
which failed by the following vote: AYES. Commissioner(s) Carollo and Reyes;
NAYS: Commissioner(s) Hardemon, Russell and Gort; to continue item PZ.6 to the
January 25, 2018, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
For additional minutes referencing Item PZ. 6, please see "Public Comment Period
for Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Vice Chair Russell: How much time do you need for your intro remarks, please?
Lowell Kuvin: I'm sorry, Commissioner?
Vice Chair Russell: How much time do you need for your introductory remarks?
For your remarks, how much time do you need?
Mr. Kuvin: I don't know.
Vice Chair Russell: I'm just keeping a -- keeping track on how things are going.
Mr. Kuvin: Not a problem. 15 minutes; 10, 15 minutes?
Vice Chair Russell: Not a problem. Shouldn't -- then we'll hear from the appellate
side and then -- okay.
Mr. Kuvin: Not a problem.
Vice Chair Russell: Yep.
Mr. Kuvin: My name is Lowell Kuvin. I represent the appellants. Basically, what
we're looking for here today is for this Commission to vote to overturn the issuance
of the Certificate of Appropriateness that was issued to Miami -Dade County,
involving the Coconut Grove Playhouse project. There are basically five issues that
you'll be hearing about today. The first issue is whether Barbara Lange and Katrina
Morris have standing on this appeal. The second issue is going to be whether the
Playhouse Historical Designation Report is flawed, and that it should be remanded
back to the HEP (Historic and Environmental Preservation) Board to be amended;
three, whether the County's HEP Board application was incomplete; and Number 4,
whether the resolution was supported by substantial and competent evidence, given
that three historical preservation experts testified that the interior of the Playhouse
is historically significant; and that last, whether allowing the County, as a developer,
to argue that more historical to allow -- would then allow them to demolish 90
percent of the Playhouse. The documents you should have in front of you were
submitted on time, and you should have the April 19, 2017 appeal letter; you should
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have the County's June 18, 2017 response, as well as the November 28, 2017 reply
by the appellants. With me today to further testify as an expert is Richard
Heisenbottle, who'll testify regarding historical significance of the Playhouse. He
will testify on whether the County's application was complete or it was incomplete.
Mr. Heisenbottle's an architect, and he practices in Miami -Dade County and
throughout the United States. He's submitted numerous applications to the HEP
Board, and as a matter of fact, he was a member of the HEP Board for 10 years.
He's also been the chair of the Historical Preservation Board in Coral Gables, and
he held that position for two years. Standing. Do my clients have standing? The
County argues that my clients don't have standing because they're not adjacent
property owners; however, that's incorrect. The historical preservation ordinance
does not define what an aggrieved party is. Both of my clients spoke at the April 4
hearing; you have their testimony. I've supplied it to you as part of my rebuttal, my
reply to the County, and it's in the November 28 letter. The County cites to a case
called Renard. Renard is not controlling here for this board, for this Commission.
What is controlling is Florida Statute 163.3215. The City also looks to a case -- in
regards to Renard, that case also is not controlling. What the case that the City
should look towards is a case called "Split." It's part of the November 28 letter. It
actually gives you a comparison of Renard, as well as 163.3215. That's where the
City should look. Chapter 3 -- Chapter 23 encourages participation of people in the
community. It tells them to come to the HEP Board hearings, to sign up, and to
speak. If the HEP Board was not going to allow people to have the ability or the
standing to appeal, they would not have encouraged people to come and speak.
Number 2, the Historical Designation Report is flawed. I'm going to give you a little
brief synopsis. Lynn Lewis, who is -- sits on the HEP Board -- on May 2, 2017, at
her subsequent -- at the subsequent meeting brought this subject up and discussed it,
and thought that it was important to enough to make it a discussion issue. They
discussed whether they would be able to -- excuse me, gentlemen -- amend the
Historical Designation Report, and they agreed that they would be able to. And in
fact, Miami -Dade County agrees that the HEP Board has the authority to amend the
Historical Designation Report. But why would they amend the Historical
Designation Report? Richard Heisenbottle, an expert in historical preservation, will
be able to tell you how the Historical Designation Report was flawed. Please,
Richard.
Richard Heisenbottle: Thank you, Lowell. And thank you, Commissioners. And
good evening, Commissioners. And welcome to the two new Commissioners, who
I've not had a chance to address at this -- in this room at this dais -- in the case of
Joe in quite some time, but welcome back.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Mr. Heisenbottle: For the record, my name is Rich Heisenbottle, FAIR (Fellow of
the American Institute of Architects), and I am a preservation architect with offices
at 2199 Ponce de Leon Boulevard, in Coral Gables. I'm here today as an expert
witness for the appellants, Barbara Lange and Katrina Morris, sitting over here to
my right, to object to the City of Miami's Historic Preservation and -- Environmental
Preservation Board's granting what amounts to a Certificate of Appropriateness for
demolition for all but the front facade of the Coconut Grove Playhouse, based upon,
among other things, a completely inadequate COA (Certificate of Appropriateness)
application. In April -- I believe it was April that we had the HEP Board hearing -- I
stood here in front of the HEP Board, along with two other experts in the field of
historic preservation, Steven Abdicoff (phonetic), AIA, a Columbia University,
Master's Degree in historic preservation, graduate, with a national practice in
preservation. I stood here with Rick Gonzdlez, an award-winning preservation
architect, who, as president of the Florida Trust for Historic Preservation, and the
current vice chairman of the Florida Historical Commission, to object to this COA
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application. During that presentation, we presented clear and competent evidence to
the board that the project, as proposed by Miami -Dade County, did not meet: One,
the Secretary of the Interior Standards for the restoration and rehabilitation of
historic structures, the primary guidelines for any historic preservation board
review. And additionally, we testified that while the County had submitted for --
what the County had submitted for review was a grossly inadequate COA
submission; only what is, in truth, a master plan; without, among other things, the
requisite existing and proposed elevations, among a long list of items on the normal
checklist that Warren would review as a preservation officer. Those old checklist of
things were missing. This was an application that should have, in our opinion, been
denied on the surface, sent back for further work. Come back next month when you
have a set of plans in front of us. We went on to specifics, and the specifics of this
project, as presented in the application, is basically that it does not conform to the
Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation. That is what the board votes
on. That's how they make almost every motion that they make at the Preservation
Board; it conforms/it does not conform. Well, this particular product, as proposed,
does not meet Secretary Standard Number 1, that the property would be used as it
was historically, or be given a new use with -- which requires minimal change to its
distinctive material features, spaces, and spatial relationships. It does not meet
Standard Number 2, the historic character of the property will be retained and
preserved. The removal of distinctive materials, alterations, features, spaces, and
spatial relationships and characteristics should be avoided. Heck, they're tearing it
down. Of course, none of those relationships work. Number -- Standard Number 4,
changes to the property that have acquired historic significance in their own right
should be retained and preserved. Not much retaining and preserving going on
here. Number 5, distinctive materials, features, finishes, construction techniques, or
other examples of craftsmanship that characterize a property should be preserved.
Number 6, deterioration -- deteriorated historic features will be repaired rather than
replaced. When the severity of deterioration requires replacement of a distinctive
feature, a new feature will match the old in design color, texture; and where
possible, materials. Replacement of missing features will be substantiated by
documentation and physical evidence. Well, no one is trying to -- in this particular
case, is submitting anything that even tries to replicate things that are missing that
may need to be replicated. Number 9, new additions, exterior alterations, and
related new construction will not destroy the historic material features and special
relationships and character of the property. The new work will be differentiated
from the old, and will be compatible with the historic materials, features, size, scale,
and proportion and massing to protect the integrity of the property and its
environment. We don't have much protecting of the property and its integrity or its
environment in this scheme. So as proposed, this product will result in the loss of
integrity of nearly the entire building. The entire interior of the building will be
replaced with a new building, with a complete loss of the interior organization, loss
of everything but the front facgade, or the interior of the front portions of the building.
In addition, the historic theater space, where the activities that make this property
significant occurred would be demolished, and constructed as a new building. The
property would no longer be eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic
Places for its significance as a theater. Now, it is not surprising, therefore, that I
and the other two expert witnesses that we brought before the board should say this,
but it's also not surprising that when we look at -- when the County submitted the
proposed drawings for review to the State of Florida Historic Preservation Ojfice in
support of a grant request that they received a similar rebuke from the State Historic
Preservation Officer, Dr. Timothy Parsons, in November of this year. I quote:
"What is proposed is not allowed under this grant program. " Well, my friends, that
is exactly what should have been said by our HEP Board. They should have said,
"What is proposed is not allowed under the Secretary of the Interior Standards and
the requirements of Chapter 23 of the Miami City Code. " However, distracted by
the surrounding issues, such as parking and financial feasibility and missing some of
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the board members that day, they actually caved in and they approved the COA that
does nothing more than pave the way for a massive demolition project. They ignored
the professional testimony, the evidence, rather than rejecting the application on its
face as incomplete. The historic Coconut Grove Playhouse, we all know, was
designed by one of the most renowned architectural firms of the day, Kiehnel Elliott,
in 1926. From its early beginnings as a paramount movie theater, it went on to
become a premier center for dramatic theater, and served our community for more
than five decades. Elliott's masterpiece, since the original auditorium, with its
elaborate plaster work, still exists; although much obscured by plywood ceiling
panels, added in the 1950s. The County justifies demolition of this by calling it a
restoration, as if we couldn't see that only the front facade is being restored. The
report prepared by George Hernandez states that Kiehnel and Elliott's work within
the building has been eradicated. Your word, George, not mine. This is simply not
the case. And I call it a flawed, an inadequate Historic Designation Report, because
it makes no reference to the elaborate proscenium arch, other than to offer a casual
mention to a handful of interior elements. You can correct the mistakes of the HEP
Board, and ask staff to revise the Designation Report, to include the interior of the
building, which includes these exceptional architectural, artistic, and historically
important elements, such as the proscenium art, such as the twisted columns, such as
the lower leaf and crown moldings. And by siding with the appellants here and
rejecting the application for the Certificate of Appropriateness that they approved,
which is really a Certificate of Appropriateness for demolition, and remand this back
to the board. Commissioners, there are literally thousands of successfully restored
historic theaters throughout the country, from Broadway to Main Street, and the
Coconut Grove Playhouse deserves to be one of them. Thank you all very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Sir, so I'll --
Mr. Kuvin: Just a few more.
Chair Hardemon: A few more what?
Mr. Kuvin: Just a few more points to go through.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. I expected this to be your opening statement so you -- for
you to give us some brief -- to tell us briefly what you wanted us to come to the
conclusion for.
Mr. Kuvin: Absolutely.
Chair Hardemon: And what you did was you went further more into your case in
chief, and so I want you to understand that I'm going to consider all that he stated as
your case in chief, but he has -- The appellee has every right to cross-examine this
witness. So the question is for the appellee --I'm not sure who you are or where you
are. Is there a need to cross-examine this witness that was put forth? I see the
appellee waiving her ahead "no, " so we'll allow you to move forward, but this is
part of your case in chief. Okay?
Mr. Kuvin: Okay. Very important, Point Number 3, the County's application was
incomplete. One of the things that you're going to hear the County say, many times
when they get up here -- and they said it many times throughout this -- our meetings
is, "We're going to have to go back." And what that really means is, "Our
application was incomplete, and we're going to have to complete the application
with the HEP Board." I'm holding up right now here, which is part of the documents
that I supplied you with, is the HEP Board application, the parts that were left
unanswered, which are significant. They did not provide architectural plans and
elevations, showing existing and proposed work. What did they say? "We'll be
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back." They did not include materials page that showed photos of all the proposed
materials, such as doors, windows, and roofing. What did they say? "We'll be
back. " They didn't show any paint chips; what color was it going to be painted.
They said, "We'll be back. " For the new construction part, which they proposed,
they didn't provide any architectural plans and elevations. Again, they said, "We'll
be back. " Material specifications page and details as required, "We'll be back. "
Paint chips again, "We'll be back. " Landscape plan, once again, "We'll be back. "
Photos of showing of existing buildings are left unchecked, "We'll be back again for
that." If you read the application itself, it plainly says that incomplete applications
will not be accepted. The application was incomplete. This board should remand
this back to the HEP Board with the mandate saying -- the special instructions of
saying that the COA should be withdrawn, it should be void as a matter of law, and
that the HEP Board should demand that the application be complete in the very
beginning, and that it should be submitted, and that it -- if the HEP Board wishes to,
they can go ahead and amend the Historical Designation Report; that would be up to
them to whether they wanted to do that, or whether it was significant. They found
significant items inside. And just the last part, and why that really is so important is
because what we're making people do when we allow people to submit incomplete
applications to the HEP Board is we're requiring our citizens to miss work, to come
in on numerous occasions, to then speak and speak and speak about missing items.
Architectural plans. "Sorry, I have to miss work today. I have to come back and
meet with the HEP Board or speak on that. " Next, include materials page, paint
chips, material specifications pages. "We'll be back, we'll be back, we'll be back. "
They're requiring all of the citizens of the City of Miami and Miami -Dade County to
comeback time and time again. The last part --and I think it's most significant from
a lawyer's standpoint -- is that when do you appeal? My clients contacted me, and
we decided to appeal the first instance that we had; although, no historical -- no
plans had been submitted. The architectural plans could be something that my
clients like. I don't know. But the problem is, is that if you don't appeal the first time
and you wait till the second time or the third time or the ninth meeting, and you say,
"Wait, wait, wait. I don't necessarily think I like this, " the first argument that is
going to be made is, I'm sorry; you missed your time to appeal. " The time to
appeal would have been the first time. That's why the HEP Board requires that a full
application be submitted every time, and that they have the chance -- the citizens
have the chance to review that application, as well as all the plans that go along with
it. So what I ask is you remand this back to the HEP Board with the instructions that
the HEP Board make sure that the plans -- the application is complete, and that they
then go through the proper process. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
Mr. Heisenbottle: Well, if you would -- since it's not my role as consultant -- allow
us to distribute and add to the record photographs of the interior elements of this
building that are historically, architecturally, and artistically significant, and to
illustrate how that -- how they might look both today and in a restored state.
Chair Hardemon: Make sure you give a copy to the opposing counsel.
Mr. Kuvin: And while they're doing that, I can let you know that I personally have
gone into the inside of the Coconut Grove Playhouse, and I've seen what it's like,
and it's not in disrepair. There are no caved -in concrete walls. There are no --
There's one instance of spalling that I've seen. I've actually reviewed the
architectural -- I'm sorry -- the engineering plans for the building, the engineering
study that the County did. And I implore you that if you do have questions about the
viability of this building, to ask your staff to ask for those plans and the engineering
reports and to review them yourselves so you can have that knowledge firsthand.
Thank you.
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Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. I would like to have the appellee approach
the lectern. It's so much easier if we do this thing the way that we kind of prescribe
it, which is in a couple of minutes, tell us what it is that you're here to do and put on
witnesses to bring testimony, because it's -- I'll put it as my statement here. Put on
witnesses so you can put on testimony that we hear, and in the end, of course, make
the argument that you want to make. And I say that because it becomes very
challenging for us as board members to know, well, what are the facts and what are
not the facts? If everything is argument, it becomes very difficult for us to kind of
manage that -- the fact-finding way of life that we need to do here, so -- But what I'd
like for you to do is, first, two minutes, just to tell us exactly what you're here to do,
and then I'll let you get right up to your case in chief once you move into that, and
then it appears that I'll give just a short time for some rebuttal and then closing
statements.
Michael Spring: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the City Commission.
My name is Michael Spring, 111 Northwest 1st Street, Miami, Florida. I serve as
director of the Miami -Dade County Department of Cultural Affairs, and as senior
advisor to Mayor Carlos Gimenez. So Mr. Chairman, with your permission, we will
need about 20 minutes for my introduction and for our expert witnesses to offer their
testimony tonight for our presentation. I'm going to make some very brief opening
remarks, and then we have a brief video that I want to show you. George
Hernandez, our historic preservation architect, will speak; and then to close for us,
Eddy Kirtley, our attorney from the County Attorney's Office, will speak. So to be
very focused, this appeal is about historic preservation. We're going to provide you
with convincing evidence supporting the HEP Board approval of our plan for the
Coconut Grove Playhouse. But first, I think it's really important to provide you with
a few facts of how we got here tonight and about our cultural goal as background for
this important project. In 2006, the Coconut Grove Playhouse closed as a result of
millions of dollars of accumulated debt. In early 2013, the State, who owned the
property, took it back and essentially put it up for sale. Florida International
University offered to partner with the County to rescue the Playhouse; and as a State
institution, FIU had the first opportunity to request custody of the Playhouse. After
multiple public approvals by the Board of County Commissioners, FIU's board of
trustees, and the Florida Cabinet and Governor, FIU and the County became co -
lessees in January of 2014. Now, the lease that we entered into with the State had
very specific and detailed requirements for our work on this project. The lease
specified that our partnership would be with FIU, GableStage, and the Miami
Parking Authority. It specified the development of a 300 -seat theater, it required us
to commit $20 million of County bond funds for the project, and it -- and we made as
a condition of the lease, our goal to respect the history of the site and develop a
Twenty -First Century theater. These very specific conditions were detailed,
discussed, and approved at public hearings and meetings. We competitively hired an
all-star design team, led by Coconut Grove -based Arquitectonica, with noted historic
preservations architect, George Hernandez, and we've worked very closely with your
staff as our preservation research and the design carefully developed. Earlier this
year we appeared before your Historic and Environmental Preservation Board on
three separate occasions to ensure that we were working closely with them from the
beginning of the design. We relied on their expertise and your existing approved
Designation Report for our work. Your staff advised us to come forward with an
application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for our project at the very beginning
so there'd be no surprises, so that we put before them what our intentions were, and
there was adequate opportunity to have this dialogue with City staff. Your Historic
Preservation Board, after an extensive public hearing, voted 4-1, with the explic -- to
approve our plan, with the explicit condition that we would come back later with the
full design. There were no surprises. These were the motivations and the results of
our work. So in a few minutes, you're going to hear from George Hernandez about
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our priority of understanding and respecting the historic status of the property. I
want you to know that the Playhouse is the historic home for theater in our
community, and our goal is nothing less than to create an outstanding regional
theater for Miami. Some of the greatest regional theaters in the country are
products of partnerships between theater companies and universities. Our
partnership with FIU will pay dividends in training students and creating jobs. So
we're on the path to breathe life back in the Playhouse and to return it to its place as
one ofAmerica's great centers for the theater arts. We have broad support from the
community to get this done. With our application or with our response to the appeal,
we've submitted a letter for the record from Jorge Perez in support of our project,
and he's written as a Grove resident, as a great art supporter, and as a businessman.
He came here to City Hall for the Playhouse town meeting that was held here
recently and made a public statement in support -- strong support of our plan. We
have a beautiful project that's on its way right now. I respectfully urge you to
support your HEP Board's decision, deny the appeal, and help us return great
theater to Coconut Grove without delay. So thank you. We now have the three-
minute video that I mentioned to you that shows the highlights of what happened to
the Playhouse over the years.
Mr. Kuvin: If I may, just for a moment?
Chair Hardemon: Not at this moment. Not at this moment. Let us get through the
video and --
Note for the Record: At this time, an audiovisual presentation was made.
Mr. Spring: I'm sorry; we didn't interrupt.
Chair Hardemon: And counselor, for the record, I'm going to overrule your
objection. This video, to me, is the same thing that was passed on to us as what it
was or what it is and what it could be, so I'll (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Spring: Thank you, sir. Allow me to introduce George Hernandez. George is a
respected historic preservation architect and a member of our design team. He's
going to provide you with a brief summary of the great work being done to celebrate
and preserve the history of the Playhouse.
George Hernandez: Good evening. George Hernandez, 337 Palermo Avenue.
Thank you very much for this opportunity. I will speak briefly about the history of
the site and the preservation issues that are involved here, and speak specifically to
the question of integrity and preservation. Some of this may be repetitive, because
you've heard it before, but it needs to be said to set the stage. The building -- this
building has graced the corner of Charles Avenue and Main Highway since 1927,
when it opened on New Year's Day as a silent -screen theater. It is and has been the
image, identity, and corner of this corner of Coconut Grove for 90 years. Designed
by Richard Kiehnel, of Kiehnel and Elliot, this is a stellar example of a 1920s
Mediterranean revival architecture. It is a locally historic site. The three-part
composition of this plan, of the original plan, is distinctly articulated. The front
building in its entirety -- not just the faqade, but the entire front building -- is here
colored in blue. It was then followed by a crescent-shaped lobby, which is coded in
green; and finally, along the sequence of the access, the auditorium, which is here
coded in purple. The auditorium -- the three phases can very clearly also be
distinguished in this aerial shot. The auditorium included certain interior features,
like the four bay arcades of Solomonic -- commonly called "twisted" -- columns,
flanking the doubled proscenium arch, one layer of which is shown here. Sadly, this
interior has been substantially reworked and has lost its integrity. Significant
alterations made over time have eroded the authenticity of Kiehnel's original
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interior. The site's history and the archeology of its changes over time can best be
understood in four chapters. They areas follows: The first one, from 1927 to 1955,
is the Kiehnel Silent Screener Era; the second time -- the second chapter, from 1955
to 1977 -- `76 -- I'm sorry -- is the period associated with Engle and with Alfred
Burning Parker and went live stage production. Those are the significant historic
chapters. The third chapter is when the theater went into management from a
nonprofit -- from a series of nonprofits, which had increasing difficulty, until the
theater finally closed in 2006, and it has remained shuttered ever since. In 1955,
Coconut Grove businessman, George Engle, purchased the old movie house, and
hired mid-century modern architect Alfred Burning Parker to remake it. After 1977,
in the third chapter, due to mismanagement, the nonprofit entity closed. Engle's
vision was for a great dinner theater at a grand scale. He had Parker block up the
storefronts and turn the focus inward to produce generous social and dining spaces;
the first change from Kiehnel. Parker compressed the original auditorium by one-
third. That's Parker's -- that's a rendition of Parker's original auditorium, so if you
can imagine that compressed by one-third -- and later projected a mezzanine which
encroached an additional third into that space. The original floor was raised up
three feet with concrete, changing that relationship for better site lines for live
theater. As a result, the classical columns were sunken into pits and then later
removed altogether. A new perforated sheet metal rear wall was -- indiscriminately
abuts decorative grills. Also, the vaulted ceiling was cut into for lighting and
catwalks, and then obscured by a painted plywood paneled ceiling for better
acoustics. The double proscenium arch was artificially defaced -- was partially
defaced, and decorative fountains were strangely sunken into the new raised floor
levels. I will show you a series of progressions that show the change in the volume
of this, the original room sequentially. That is the original Kiehnel room. Here's the
raised floor, which is three feet of added concrete, obscuring the original floor. The
back wall was moved over by one-third of the volume of the room, further articulated
with the perforated metal, which you'll see; then the panels were dropped into, and
the original vault ceiling were cut, and then -- and if you look at the arches, only a
third of them remain on the rear wall. And then finally, this is the only photograph
I've seen from my research that shows a view back into that hall. You can see the
discontinuity of that back metal perforated wall and Kiehnel's original
Mediterranean architecture, pieces of which remained on the site.
Vice Chair Russell: I have a question.
Mr. Hernandez: The result was neither a Kiehnel nor a Parker.
Chair Hardemon: Excuse me one second, sir. We have a question for you.
Mr. Hernandez: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Russell: Sorry to interrupt. If you can go back one slide, please. --
Mr. Hernandez: Sure.
Vice Chair Russell: -- just for clarification. Sothis wall that was put in eliminated
the seating that would have been behind the wall, but the razing of the concrete also
changed the articulation of the seating so that that concrete is kind of what -- the top
of that is where the seating would have to end the way it's currently situated with the
concrete, correct?
Mr. Hernandez: I don't understand the question.
Vice Chair Russell: The concrete goes up more steeply now --
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Mr. Hernandez: Yes.
Vice Chair Russell: -- and then it levels off where there used to be seating to make a
larger lobby.
Mr. Hernandez: I have an illustration that I think could answer the question more
clearly.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. But my question was, how many seats in this photo,
for example, remain in front of that wall at that point? What was the --?
Mr. Hernandez: There were 1,100 seats in Kiehnel's original theater and 800 until
the mezzanine would -- being after the compression -- until the mezzanine was added
later, which restored the original 1,100 seats on two levels. Okay? But we have an
image that I think will do that. The result is neither a Kiehnel nor an Elliott, but a
space of architectural compromise. Parker ruined Kiehnel's interior auditorium.
That's the picture that prompted, I think, the question. And there is an image of the
mezzanine projecting over it. That picture, as you see, was not in this original
photograph. That's 1955 opening night, no mezzanine, but you see that rear metal
perforated wall and the kind of collision with those arches on the side. This is post
'77, with Parker's mezzanine projected. That diagram might answer your question,
Commissioner. The line in red shows the original strake of the movie house floor.
The blue profile shows all that was filled in by Parker, and the blue silhouette shows
the intrusion, first of moving the wall forward by one-third and then the mezzanine
by another third. To make matters worse -- oh, I'm sorry. In the space left over by
shortening the auditorium chamber, Parker inserted a series of interiors for drinking
and socializing, and dining. These spaces were more finished than the auditorium,
and could clearly be linked to Parker's hand that they do not clearly represent the
mastery of his work, of the -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of his work. These -- this is the
bar, of which is the only color picture. In the `60s, colors were still rare. Here is a
picture of the dining room by Parker, inserted in the front building and in other
spaces. This is a picture of the lobby. That was the result of compressing the
auditorium by a third. This large lobby, which was used first for entry but also for
dining, was the result of that. And here is an example of Parker reworking the
remaining columns at the back of now the lobby space. These interiors are
accommodated in and around thick Mediterranean archways, as is pictured here,
with classical columns, which are antithetical to Parker's architectural language.
They do not represent Parker's mastery. Their integration was never completely
resolved. Witness the Solomonic columns relegated to the stalls of bathrooms. To
make matters worse, then these interiors -- Parker's interiors from the `50s were
ripped out later after 1977 by expediency and poor stewardship. This bar is now this
space. That dining room is now that space. This lobby with the fountain --there was
a fountain there -- is gone, and those false Mediterranean arches are from the '80s,
which people confused with the architecture of Kiehnel from the `70s -- I mean, from
the `20s. A false Mediterranean pastiche indeed has replaced them. Kiehnel's
interiors and Parker's interiors are simply no more. These color -coded plans will
show that is Kiehnel's original auditorium. The blue is everything that Parker
effected in the entire project. Then after 1977, many architects that worked on small
projects erode it even more. This is the documentation by the architect name
Richard Schuster of those changes. He did some changes himself in the `80s. This is
a combination of what Parker effected from Kiehnel's, and what Schuster and others
in the `80s effected from Parker. As you see, virtually every part of this theater has
been changed. The County plan began with preservation and preservation research,
some of which I have shared. I reviewed the 2006 Historic Designation Report,
written by Ellen Uguccioni, which states, quote, "That only the front fagade is
significant. I wanted to delve deeper. I wanted to test that conclusion. I wanted to
search for more to preserve without engaging in speculative reconstruction or
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edification of a false history. " And this is important, because all of the criteria that
you heard about the Secretary of the Interior's Guidelines and Standards rely and
hinge on the fact that you must prove that the building retains its integrity. If the
building does not retain its integrity, then those criteria fall away. So that's why this
establishment of integrity is so important. Your -- the report, the Designation Report
from 2005 got it right. You report got it right the first time. I concluded in agreeing
the report that the entire auditorium and lobby spaces have indeed lost their
integrity, but we are able to preserve the entire front building; not the fagade, which
is set over again, but the entire building; front, sides and back, depths and functions.
We committed to survey the interior of the building, as you can see that record
document with all of its original features, and we continue doing so in preparation
for the next COA submittal to the HEP Board. We committed to survey the interior
as well. These are examples of the proscenium arch, of the concrete grills, of the
cornices over the vaults, fragments of which remain. We are incorporating these
into the space of the new theater, and we are reappropriating the double proscenium
arch in the new auditorium space. The architectural details, playbills, photographs,
film clips, and other material will be used to interpret the silent screen era, Chapter
1; and the playhouse era, Chapter 2. This interpretation will be prominently
displayed in the public spaces, all of which occur behind the historic front theater.
The plan you have before you tonight is a good plan. It is the right plan. It is a
community plan. The site, which you see here, which has long been a barrier
between the neighborhoods from east to the neighborhoods from the west, is opened
up. Two planted green corridors, one of them between the theater, which is colored
light and then mustard yellow, between that and the restaurant, and another one in
an existing alleyway that -- we treat it as a street -- and will one day be also opened
up. Two planted green corridors provide thru-block connections to pedestrians,
creating a walkable place. The restoration of the entire front building complete
makes the iconic image and function of the Mains and Charles corner replete with
storefronts and the mix of uses, original to Kiehnel's project. By embedding the new
300 -seat theater and the fly stage at the center of the parcel, the spatial promenade
of entry is restored to the site. More importantly, this new auditorium is surrounded
by supporting spaces no taller than a two-story residence. This will mark a
transition between the theater and its fly stage, and come down to the scale of the
residential neighborhood to the west. This transition down to the residential scale of
the surroundings is embellished with perimeter plantings and green spaces and with
another open public space, a landscape courtyard between the new theater and the
restored historic front building. The Main and Char -- on Main -- the front building
on Main and Charles. No new construction will interrupt the historic silhouette
when viewed from the public realm, from the streets. The 90 -year-long image and
identity of the Charles and Main intersection will be fully restored; not as a facgade,
but as the building that always stood there. Kiehnel's auditorium -- on the matter of
integrity, Kiehnel's auditorium was gutted by Parker, and Parker's auditorium was
gutted by subsequent expedient changes. The building beyond the front building has
lost its integrity. In preservation, the physical footprints of history can endure, and
are given meaning by interpretation and sustained use. Old buildings survive --
indeed, thrive and change -- in new ways for new generation. When it is proper to
restore all or significant parts of the original fabric and sustain an original use, then
the place accrues additional value. That is what this project does; it restores theater
to this site and ensures its sustainability in the very place known as the ancestral
home of theater in this community, and it uses preservation appropriately and
creatively towards that end. Thank you.
Mr. Spring: Mr. Chairman, to conclude, we have Assistant County Attorney Eddie
Kirtley, and Eddie provides legal support to the County's Historic Preservation
Division, and he's going to present specific points in response to the appeal.
Chair Hardemon: So this isn't --
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Mr. Kuvin: May I ask some cross-examination questions first?
Chair Hardemon: You absolutely may.
Mr. Kuvin: Mr. Hernandez, good evening.
Mr. Hernandez: Good evening.
Mr. Kuvin: Thank you for staying so late. This presentation that you're showing us
right here, was this presentation shown to the HEP Board at the April 4 meeting?
Mr. Hernandez: A version of it.
Mr. Kuvin: But wait a second.
Mr. Hernandez: No, not in --
Mr. Kuvin: I'm asking specifically was --
Mr. Hernandez: Yes.
Mr. Kuvin: -- this?
Mr. Hernandez: No.
Mr. Kuvin: Okay. So this is -- I would ponder that this would be irrelevant, and I
would ask that it would be stricken, because this was not shown and this was not a
part of the decision by the HEP Board.
Chair Hardemon: It's a de novo decision today, though. So this board can decide
on de novo --
Mr. Kuvin: Not a problem.
Chair Hardemon: -- what facts are presented.
Mr. Kuvin: I'd just like to lodge -- And the original video that you showed, was that
also shown to the HEP Board that evening?
Mr. Hernandez: No, no. No.
Mr. Kuvin: So --
Mr. Hernandez: That video was done subsequently.
Mr. Kuvin: Okay. And so do you know if the HEP Board in any way relied upon any
of this information when they made their decision?
Mr. Hernandez: Yes, they did.
Mr. Kuvin: All of this information or apart of it?
Mr. Hernandez: Not all, but a great portion of it.
Mr. Kuvin: Okay. Thank you very much.
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Mr. Hernandez: Thank you.
Mr. Kuvin: I have one more question.
Mr. Hernandez: Yes.
Mr. Kuvin: Are you being paid by the County for your opinions?
Mr. Hernandez: Yes, I'm being paid by the County for my opinions.
Mr. Kuvin: Thank you very much.
Mr. Hernandez: Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: Who's paying who?
Chair Hardemon: Right. Sir, so are you providing closing arguments, or is this --
you're also adding more facts to the --?
Mr. Kirtley: I'm not presenting facts. I'm presenting legal argument from the
County.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. So I'll consider this to be your closing argument, then,
yes?
Mr. Kirtley: Correct. This is it for us.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Mr. Kirtley: Good evening, Mr. Chair and Mr. Vice Chair, Commissioners. Eddie
Kirtley, Assistant County Attorney, here for Miami -Dade County. I'm not used to
being on this side of the dais, but I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you this
evening. We heard a lot of people talk about in the public comment portion that they
preferred Mr. Heisenbottle's plan, but that's not an issue that's before you today.
What's here before you today is the County's plan. That's what the HEP Board
below approved. And, really, the question that's legally before you is whether that
approval was consistent with the historic designation in 2005. Before I address the
merits of that issue, however, we have the procedural matter that Mr. Kuvin alluded
to, and that is the issue of standing of the appellants. The appellants are engaged
members of this community, and they are concerned about this Playhouse's future, as
many are, and we commend them for that. But to have legal standing, they must
show some injury, special and apart from that of the community at large, and they
have failed to do so. They don't live next door to the property or down the block or
even down the next one, and they essentially admit that, because their only response
is they don't have to meet that standard. Instead, they rely upon Florida Statute
163.3215, which is irrelevant to the issues here. That is about consistency with a
local government's comprehensive master plan. They also confuse the right to speak
at public hearings with legal standing. Not everyone who can speak at a hearing has
standing to file an application or to object. Because they don't have standing, the
appeal should be dismissed. That standing issue aside, the appellants' entire
challenge is based on their desire to have the City revisit and redo the 2005
designation to specifically include the interior elements of the Playhouse, some of
which you've just seen this evening. But the only question before you is whether the
approval below is consistent with the existing designation. Your Code does not
permit you to legally revisit the scope of that designation here in this proceeding.
That designation, as it stands today, governs the proceeding, and it was the starting
point and guidepost for our application. There could be no question that the
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approval here is consistent with the existing designation, which is why your
professional staff and the HEP Board below recommended approval. It is why we
received the approval below over only a single dissent. Appellants have not even
attempted to argue that what was done below is inconsistent with the governing
designation. Instead, they say that the designation is flawed, but there is nothing
flawed about that, as George Hernandez has just explained to you. The designation
was correct in recognizing that the only portion of the Playhouse that retains its
historical integrity is the front building, containing the south and east facades from
the 1927 design. If there was any question that the interior retained more integrity,
the time to deal with that was in 2005, when this matter was -- when the building was
designated, and then there was an appeal taken to this board, not more than a
decade later. Indeed, amending the designation here as a reaction to this
application is not legal and it is not good preservation. Historic preservation serves
an important role in our society, but it should not be subverted and used as a sword
instead of a shield. The County has acted in reliance upon the current state of that
designation that has existed for more than 10 years in entering into various leases
with the State, FIU, and GableStage, processes that took multiple approvals and took
much time and energy. We've also retained historic preservation experts, architects,
theater consultants, and the like. We have spent considerable public resources and
time to come up with a plan that is in keeping with the parameters of the existing
designation, and we therefore have a reliance interest upon it. It would violate our
vested rights and our right of due process to up -end the designation now to include
the interior. That would also delay this plan, and it would delay the revitalization of
the Playhouse, something that no one wants. For the same reason, the board should
not send this back to the HEP Board and have them re -investigate whether the
interior should be included in the designation. During the hearing below, indeed,
the issue came up; there was much discussion about it, but it did not gain traction.
One board member in particular was concerned about this, but her motion to deny
our application did not get a second, and no other board member moved that the
interior elements be examined. As we all agree, this site needs revitalization, and it
needs it now. Our plan is well on its way to doing that. Giving appellants what they
seek today will only delay that process, and it will also detrimentally tie your hands
as to what you can do in the future on this project site, whether it be through our
plan or some other plan. But make no mistake, the County has vowed to be a good
steward of this piece of our history. We have committed to saving whatever historic
elements inside the Playhouse, still retain their integrity, and to reincorporate them
for posterity. This is the right thing to do; it is our obligation. Finally, counsel for
appellants has gone at great lengths to argue that our application was incomplete,
invalid, and that we somehow are in a rush to demolish the Playhouse. Nothing
could be further from the truth. Regardless of what happens here today, we must go
back to the HEP Board; counsel admitted this. The approval currently on appeal
does not give us the authority to demolish anything without a subsequent approval.
This approval was for a conceptual plan. We took the unusual step of doing a
conceptual plan approval at your staffs urging. We did it for transparency sake.
We did it so that everyone would know what we're doing before everything is done.
We have gone down this road to engage the public, but apparently now, that is
something to criticize us for. In closing, I want to emphasize that we obtained this
approval from your appointed experts on the HEP Board. These are
preservationists. These are people who care about preservation and care about this
community. They overwhelmingly approved this plan that we put forward, and we
ask that you honor their expertise and that you deny the appeal. Thank you. I'm
here for questions, should you have any.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. I know you had an opportunity to close
earlier.
Mr. Kuvin: Yes, please.
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Chair Hardemon: Was there anything else that you wanted to add briefly before--?
Mr. Kuvin: The County has stated that historic preservation is important and that
they had vested rights and that you can't change that. However, I've heard that
argument a lot of times. And you know when you normally hear that argument? You
hear that argument when you have a developer that comes into the City of Miami
and they buy an old house, and they want to split the lot. So what do they want to
do? They want to tear down the house, but sometimes that doesn't happen. What
happens is the HEP Board gets involved, and they force -designate the piece of
property and they say, "Sorry. You're going to have to work with it as it is. We're
not going to allow you to do that. " Its the exact same arguments that the County is
making today. They're saying we had vested rights, and there's nothing that the
Commission can do because we had vested rights. They talk about how the County
and how the State has approved their plans. However, we're not here today because
the State may like the fact that they're building a single -seat theater or a 300 -seat
theater. What we're here today is because we're in the City of Miami, and the City of
Miami has to protect its historical significant buildings and its history, and that's
basically what we're here for today. They talked about that -- They didn't even rebut
the fact that the application was incomplete. What they said is, they did it because
they wanted it to be different, because they wanted it to be transparent. However,
that doesn't change what the Code says. The Historical Preservation Code 23 says
that you must present a full application. I've read to you the parts that were missing
from that application, and I warned you, and I foresaw what they were going to say;
and, of course, just like the County said, we'll have to come back. The application
was not complete. They'd also like you to say that we're going to take out the
elements inside, and we're going to reincorporate them, and now, for some reason,
that building will be historical. Look at this building. It's historical. I don't see any
bars or seats for people that are waiting for airplanes to travel TransAtlantic. The
building itself is historical; just like the Playhouse is historical. I wasn't born a
lawyer. I used to be a waiter. I used to be a waiter at one of the most famous
restaurants in the United States. I was a waiter at Joe's Stone Crab.
Chair Hardemon: My man.
Mr. Kuvin: And I don't normally wait for a tip. But what I wanted to say was let's
take a look at Joe's Stone Crab. Joe's Stone Crab has a terrazzo floor that was
poured in the `30s. And if you go and you look at that floor, there's a crack down the
entire middle of the floor. And where did that crack come from? It came from the
fact that when they were dynamiting Government Cut in order to make it deeper and
wider, it caused damage to the building. It caused damage to the floor. But instead
of taking out that floor -- and I think we all realize that the Weiss family has the
money to pullout the floor and to redo it --they chose not to. They chose to patch it
and leave it there. And why is that? Because when you walk across that floor,
you're walking across the floor that presidents have walked across; you're walking
across the floor that Muhammad Ali has walked across; that probably every single
mayor from this City has walked across, and that's why they kept it. And that's the
heart of the Playhouse, and that's why you have to keep the building. They want to
talk about, "Well, it has this feature and it has this light and it has this column, and
we're taking those all out and putting it into a new building. " But that's not the heart
of the building. The heart of the building, like one person said in the open comments
portion, was all the people that had gone there and performed there. And when you
go in there, it may not be a Twenty -First Century -- the best playhouse ever, but
you're going to go in there and you're going to feel that you're sitting in the same
place where famous people performed, where famous people sat and watched those
performances throughout the entire history, almost the entire history of this City of
Miami. That's why you have to vote to send this back to the HEP Board, for
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whatever reason that you choose; I've given you several, one that remained
unrebutted. Send it back to the HEP Board. Let them be the custodian of what's
significant on the inside and what's not significant on the inside. Thank you very
much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, counselor. So, at this time, discussion
amongst the board members. Francisco, you have something you want to add?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Thank you, Mr. Chair. Very
briefly, I think that all the relevant substantive issues have been framed correctly and
well; and so, you have before you the information you need to consider this further.
I thought, for the sake of clarity, I would add to the record -- and I know this is part
of the written record that you have -- but for the sake of clarity, the three last
conditions of the HEP Board's approval of the special Certificate of Appropriateness
I think are very relevant, and I'll read them very quickly. Condition Number 11, no
demolition permit will be issued until the plan comes back to the HEP Board and is
approved. Condition 12, the concept -- and I emphasize "concept" -- that is being
approved in this plan is in concept only; their redundancy, not mine. The HEP
Board has the purview to require different configurations, heights, setback, et cetera,
for the development of each individual building. And Condition Number 13, all
buildings will come collectively in one application to the HEP Board, which is to
say, the special Certificate of Appropriateness was issued with a full understanding
that there were no vested rights granted with it and that the entire application would
come back to the HEP Board before final action would be taken. To the extent that
this Commission wants to enhance, modem, or add information to the record, the
HEP Board will be considering it again before any demolition permit or any final
permit for construction is issued. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Discussion.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. Mr. Chairman.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, Mr. Vice Chairman.
Vice Chair Russell: Deep breath. Thank you all. I think -- let's take a moment first
to talk about what we have in common. Everyone here, no matter what T -Shirt
you're wearing, if you were to take it off and we'd look at each other and say, "We
want this Playhouse to come back. We want theater in the Grove. We want to
restore it, " and where we get lost is in the details. But if we remain on looking at
where we are in common, the front building -- the eyebrow, as it's called -- none of
us are in disagreement. Everybody here recognizes and agrees that the facade and
entire front building -- the apartments, the offices, everything that goes back to that
first wall -- needs to be preserved and restored, including the fenestration. It's a
good thing. We're not fighting about that, and that's very important. Then the
details come into play, and we have some differing plans here. I'd like to start by
commending both sides. And the County's intention is correct here in trying to do
everything they can to bring the parties together, find the funding, do the historic
preservation. In their opinion, that is the best we can do with the money that we
have that will be successful and be viable. I don't think we should demonize that. I
also don't think we should demonize the advocates, the residents, the stakeholders
who want to seethe full preservation. Whether or not that is physically viable or
financially viable, the spirit is to save as much of this building as we can. The
hardest part about being an elected official is making hard decisions, and it's
something I always wondered if I ever wanted to do this, why I would, because no
matter what decision you make, you're going to make somebody angry, so the easiest
thing here is to kick it to somebody else to make that decision, and kick the can down
the road. We are not going to do that tonight. So someone's going to leave here
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upset with me, whether it's a stakeholder or a resident or a preservationist or an
architect or somebody. If this Commission agrees with the direction I hope we go,
someone's going to be unhappy. But tonight is going to be a very important night,
because when that theater is complete in whatever form it is, you're going to look
back to this night and say, we stopped waiting, we stopped kicking the can, and we
made a decision, and we moved forward. You've heard of "demolition by neglect. "
We're not neglecting; we're paying attention. What we're having here is demolition
by debate, and we can debate for months and months more and that building will be
gone. We can't wait for another storm. We can't wait for hearing after hearing and
appeal after appeal. We need to make the best decision we can, pull together the
finances we can, and move forward. So the first step I think we need to do is
establish the standing of the appellants. And if that's appropriate, Madam City
Attorney, I'd welcome an opinion on that. From what I've heard this evening, there's
an argument for and against standing?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): Based on -- you know, in zoning matters, we've
opined in the past that, usually, an aggrieved party is somebody who's right next
door, is within 500 feet, is definitely more aggrieved than any other person in the
community. Here, for HEP reasons, though, it's a little different, when the Code
really doesn't define who an aggrieved party is. But in this case, you have a facility
where it's of great communal import, important to the community. Both appellants
do live in Coconut Grove, in close proximity to this facility. I would say, in a zoning
context, they may not have standing. However, in this type of appeal, they could
arguably have standing because of the difference of the facility; the fact that, you
know, they can attend the facility; that they want to see the facility preserved; that
they live in close proximity. And obviously, this is all based on their written appeal
letter. I can't confirm all that, but their -- you know, they've been under oath.
Vice Chair Russell: We've studied it.
Ms. Mendez: So it's something that definitely the Commission could grant standing
if they are so inclined, based on that.
Vice Chair Russell: Do you need a motion in order to grant standing?
Ms. Mendez: Well, I mean, deny stand -- ifyou wanted to deny it.
Vice Chair Russell: To grant or deny, do you need a motion to move forward on
that?
Ms. Mendez: Well, you would basically just have to say that you recognize it or, you
know --
Vice Chair Russell: Well, we're a body, though, so --
Ms. Mendez: Yes.
Vice Chair Russell: -- I myself, don't have that authority, so is there a motion that
needs to be confirmed by the Commission to grant standing?
Ms. Mendez: You can, or you can just, you know, confirm. And if there's any
objection, you move on, but --
Vice Chair Russell: All right. I'm inclined to grant standing to these residents who
are appealing this situation. The points that have been brought up are certainly
worth looking into and studying. If there's no objection, we'll just move forward. If
you'd like a motion, I'll make it, and we can look for a second.
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Commissioner Reyes: I'll second it.
Vice Chair Russell: Okay, there's a motion -- I'm sorry. I'm the Chair right now, so
I can't make that motion. You would like to make a motion to grant standing? And
the Chair will second it.
Commissioner Reyes: I will make a motion to grant standing.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you very much. The motion's been made; I've seconded.
Any discussion on the standing issue? All in favor, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Russell: Any opposed? All right, so we've established that. Next, I
really wanted to study -- and I appreciate our preservation officer, Warren Adams --
whether or not we have the ability to be discussing about the historic preservation of
the back building. In 2005, when the decision was made -- This is very key, because
if the back building is not historically designated, how is it possible for me, or even
the Historic Environmental Preservation Board, to rule on whether or not it can be
preserved or not? And so there were facts presented on both sides. And I simply
would like to read the minutes from that evening, because the resolution itself can
capture one sentiment if interpreted one way; but as always, you really have to go
into the intent of those who made the vote to understand what that resolution -- how
that resolution should be interpreted. And the preservation officer at the time, Ms.
Uguccioni, who submitted the report, clarified when the report was issued, I want
to make clear that my intent was certainly to include the entire building in the
Historic Designation Report. When we designate historic buildings, we don't just do
the envelope or what's seen from the front. It doesn't receive its significance from
just being two walls. It's an entire history of what happens inside the building. "
And from that point, the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board was able to
make its vote, and it was a unanimous 'yes" to designate. But the question remains,
were they designating just the fagade, as could be interpreted by reading the letter of
the resolution, or the entire structure? And I'll read you the 'yes" votes from at least
two of those who voted. Mr. Barber said his vote was `yes. " "We have to protect
the integrity of the historic landmarks, even noncontributing structures that are
around it, so I agree that we need to designate the whole structure and the parcel of
land. " That was his vote. Chairman Parrish was the final vote, as is appropriate,
and in his vote, he said, `Aly clear intent is to vote for the complete designation of
the structure itself of all the sides of the structure. So with that said, I'd like to say
yes, ' please. " With that interpretation of the minutes and the resolution that passed
in 2005, it's my understanding that the entire structure is historically designated. It
does not speak to the interior; it speaks to the entire structure and the property. And
there's a lot of back and forth about the parking lot and such; but really, within the
HEP Board's decision, the key part had to do with whether or not the back structure
could be demolished, not immediately, but once they came back with further plans,
but at least they gave their initial intent to say, "Yes, the back structure could be
demolished, " and then they -- "Let's see your future plans later as they come down
the road. " I don't have a problem with that partial application and that partial green
light to move forward, because it did have the caveat, "You're going to have to come
back to us with the more specific plans. " What I do have issue with, though, having
learned what we have tonight, is the idea that the back structure is not historic. It
certainly is historic. The question is, Can it be preserved? I've been through every
inch of that building, and it -- and to walk in there, it scares you to think that maybe
it couldn't be. It's in pretty bad shape. But to say that -- what were the words? It's -
- "The only part that retains historical integrity is the front, "I don't believe that to be
the case. I believe it is physically integral enough to be brought back to whatever
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the HEP Board decides is the state that it should be. What that -- whether it's the
original movie house, the theater house, that it is possible. It may be expensive, it
may be difficult, but it is possible. Now, the exterior of the back building is nothing
to write home about, and that's why it's very easy to look at it and say, "That's not a
historic structure; the front building is. " There's a lot of attention paid to the
design; the back building is not. But here's where I think we go into the sentiment of
the designation, that what happened in that building matters. And once I got past the
obscene graffiti and the broken rooftop, and the flooring that I had to step over, I
started seeing the elements of the history there. I picked up off the floor handwritten
sheet music that was half -eaten by moths, and playbills laid around; even a sequined
dress, still laid over a couch. The history is there. And there's something magic
about that, that if it could be saved, it should be. So before I make a decision, let me
speak to a couple more items that were dealt with by the HEP Board and that are
dealt with within the appeal. The size of seats -- the size of the theater and the seats.
If you're going to try to honor the historic aspect of this -- of the size of the theater,
you want to try to get towards the larger theater that existed. To honor the grand
Coconut Grove Playhouse with 300 seats, I don't believe it serves it from a historic
perspective; from a financial perspective or a theater perspective, I can't speak to
that, but from a historic perspective, it certainly does not. The garage I have
concern with in terms of its scale. And from a historic perspective, if you are looking
at the whole property, and your gem is the front building, the facade of that building,
for a garage to overshadow that building would certainly detract from the historic --
the special character of it and making it the prominent piece of that site. This
doesn't say that I'm advocating for a Heisenbottle plan versus an Arquitectonica
plan. That's not for my decision to make. And as was brought up, it's not our job to
assign the architect. And it's not really a Heisenbottle versus Arquitectonica
situation here. Mr. Heisenbottle doesn't represent a party that has a vested interest
in making it a specific way, so he's not -- there's nobody going to designate an
architect up here or even the specific style, so I want to make that clear. And before
I finalize, I really want to say that part of the historic character of this structure isn't
also a very good story in the early days on the separation it created between the
West Grove and the South Grove, and I think we can right that wrong a little bit,
because the back of the theater that currently faces the West Grove certainly doesn't
serve the West Grove, and I do see that in both -- in many of the plans that have been
presented is a new life that sort of reaches out and tries to make it more inclusive. I
think that should also be taken into account when discussing traffic flow and loading
and unloading, which I've seen differing plans that I don't need to comment on from
a historic perspective. I would like to make my Jennings disclosure, Mr. City
Attorney, which is something that we do to make sure that everyone here knows that
we're making this decision based on the facts we hear tonight. And the Jennings
disclosure is to let you know that, yes, I have met with both sides, many parties. I've
met with Mayor Gimenez. I've met with Michael Spring. I've met with Adler. I've
met with the architects of both sides. I've met with Commissioner Suarez -- Xavier
Suarez; our Lieutenant Governor. I've met with every Grovite every ten feet I walk
on street who has an opinion on this issue. As chairman of the Coconut Grove BID
(Business Improvement District), we've had presentations from Michael Eidson, who
I've met with; and Olga Scott, who has also presented. And I want you to know, I
don't have a preconceived notion, and I never have, and I really try to listen to
everybody with a very open mind. But with that being said, it's going to be my
motion to do a partial acceptance of the appeal; not sending it back to HEP Board,
but with conditions moving forward, so that we keep the ball moving forward,
because I believe we cannot afford to lose more time, and that with these conditions
that I believe the HEP Board should have taken into account, we can move forward.
And the applicants, the County will still have to come back to the HEP Board every
step of the way, but I don't want us to start over from square one. So we'll -- that's
my motion, and if there's a second, we can discuss it further, and we can get into the
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specifics of what elements we believe should be presented moving forward and what
conditions.
Commissioner Gort: I'll second.
Vice Chair Russell: And then we can talk about the finances.
Chair Hardemon: You have a seconder. First second is from Commissioner Reyes.
Commissioner Gort: You have two seconders.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. I -- thank you. You know, we have to have a
realistic lens when looking at historic preservation, because we can dream all we
want, but if we can't afford to do it, it's not going to happen, and it'll eventually die,
but I believe the money is there. The County, having a significant investment of $20
million, is putting their money where their mouth is; and so, they're coming with
their plan and their team, which is very well-equipped. The shortfall between that
and the estimates for the restoration plan versus the full razing of the back structure
and building a new theater seems to be an additional 20 to 25 million, if I'm not
mistaken. That's a big hurdle to overcome. It's not impossible. Mr. Mike Eidson is
daily fundraising for this effort. And Mayor Regalado before and Mayor Suarez
have both pledged to push for a bond offering that was passed from the City of
Miami. A good portion of our bonds have to do with historic and cultural
preservation. This would have to go through our Bond Oversight Committee, which
has not yet been formed, which we are putting together in January. And we'll be
looking for a legal opinion that makes sure that we are able to expend bond funds on
this project. The MPA (Miami Parking Authority), which is a City -related
organization, is involved with the entire construction of the garage, as well as the
restoration of the front historic building. So I believe that we will be able to do that
if the will of the Oversight Committee and the Commission is there. That's 10. Then
we're looking to outside philanthropy to bring in the remainder, and there is word
out there that it's coming along in a healthy way, but we can't wait forever. So the
conditions I would like to see come similar to what I mentioned before. I would like
to see a larger size of seats, especially considering that the funding will be therefor
going from the 300 seat. I believe it should not have any less than 600 seats in this
theater. It can have, obviously, a black box next to it to add to that. The scale of the
building, I do not believe that the garage should be taller than the theater itself. This
could be accomplished by either removing a floor or by submerging a floor, which
has been studied and looked at in my understanding. And the garage could also be
set back to a sufficient amount to keep the open sight lines down Main Highway of
the theater so that the garage doesn't overwhelm the theater; and that -- you know,
not to a historic perspective -- could also activate that front sidewalk in front of the
garage for sidewalk cafes or dining, and I've seen that in some of the plans. I'm
trying to make sure I don't forget anything that I've scribbled down this evening
under my thoughts. Obviously, interior preservation of the Solomonic columns, the
proscenium, the various fixtures, as was intended, but the goal is to preserve more so
the interior structure, where all the magic happened. Now that doesn't mean
structures cannot be built beyond and outside, and even above that. That just means
that shell is what we're going to try to preserve and not fabricate from scratch or
replicate. I do believe in modern attachment to historic structures. You see this in
your Europe, and it actually works. It actually fits.
Commissioner Gort: You see it all over.
Vice Chair Russell: You don't have to do an Epcot Center reproduction of a historic
building if you're trying to build something next to it. It can fit together and be
modern. So I'm in no way downplaying the architecture prowess of the
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Arquitectonica team, who have come up with some amazing plans, and obviously are
iconic within the City. I'm simply talking about the preservation of the shell of the
historic theater, because if we don't, we could not with a straight face say, "Welcome
to the historic Coconut Grove Theater. " We could only say, "Welcome to the
historic Coconut Grove lobby. " And I think that's important that we carry that
pride. I know this is not what everybody wanted to hear here. I know that there is a
plan in hand that's ready to move. I know there's funding for that plan that's ready
to move, so this would set it back a little bit, but I'd rather us do it right than do it
fast. And I've spoken with Mayor Gimenez, and I know he's open, but it's all about
funding. And if the funding's not there, it all falls apart. So I'm going to put a 100 -
day limitation with which to find the pledges for this funding, whether it comes from
the City, whether it comes from philanthropy. And if that doesn't take place, then it
will be remanded back to the HEP Board to decide what could happen from there,
because other than the -- There are some things that I would like to see survive,
whether or not that hundred -day funding is found, including, for example, height of
the garage, scale of the garage, and I believe we can even still do preservation. But
the size of the theater, if we don't have the funding to do it, we got to put our money
where our mouth is, but we're moving forward, we're moving forward, and we'll
preserve as much of the building behind as possible, but that's my motion.
Chair Hardemon: Just -- it's been properly moved and seconded. But for
clarification, so this is being -- the appeal is being granted in part and denied in
part?
Vice Chair Russell: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: And so I'm trying to understand what those moving parts are, so I
wrote down -- part of it was more seats than were identified. I wrote down 300.
Commissioner Gort: From 300 to 600.
Rafael Suarez -Rivas (Assistant City Attorney, Supervisor): A minimum of 600 seats,
Mr. Chair.
Chair Hardemon: Right, but the -- what's currently there -- I'm not sure what's in
the plan, because I heard different numbers. As I understood, there were originally
1,100 seats; a third of those were removed; I think reduced down to about 700 seats.
And then the second balcony was added, which restored it to an original 11 -- at
least -- restored it to a number of 1,100. But that balcony is not original. It -- as
from the facts that are put on the -- put before us, it basically defaced what was the
existing Playhouse. And so, if you remove that balcony -- say that balcony is
removed, you have 700 seats. So was there a plan to reduce the number from 1,100 -
- from 700 to less than 500?
Vice Chair Russell: The current plan is 300.
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. The plans that were approved in concept
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Mr. Garcia: -- by the HEP Board considers the demolition of the structure and the
creation of a new structure that would have roughly -- and I think the testimony
today was between 300 and 350 seats.
Chair Hardemon: Got it. Understood, understood. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree
with you. The number should be closer to what was originally in the theater, at least
-- well, closer to what was originally in the theater. The scale of the garage shorter
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than that of the theater, I think that's a no -brainier. Preservation of columns, those
columns are there -- I'm sure they're therefor structural soundness, I'm assuming?
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: Preservation of columns and other selected elements that would
be maintained in the restoration work.
Chair Hardemon: But does that mean that what was taken away from the theater, if
you will, the seats -- when the wall was put in the back of the theater, and then the
fountain was added, and then the lobby was expanded upon, all those things, does
that mean that we can do -- that can be done away with and the columns will still
remain intact?
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: Yes. I believe the -- the Commissioner will clarify, but I believe
it's to retain those elements, but in whatever way is appropriate, the elements.
Chair Hardemon: So those seats can be, say for instance, be added to the back of
the theater to --? I guess a better way to say --
Vice Chair Russell: Where the fountain ended up being or --
Chair Hardemon: -- to be restored to the original theater?
Vice Chair Russell: Yes. And the pieces that I feel are worth saving are exactly the
ones that the County identified; the only difference is their plan was to remove them,
preserve them, raze the building, build something new, and put them back in. So in
this particular case, if we're trying to preserve the original shell, those items would
simply stay where they are or, you know, be restored, and place the Solomonic
columns, the proscenium arch, the cherubs, and -- The elements that they've actually
already promised that they're going to preserve, we're just elevating the level of
preservation by keeping it in the original structure.
Chair Hardemon: I bear witness to the historic Lyric Theater, and that is an asset
that is now owned by the --
Vice Chair Russell: Black Archives.
Chair Hardemon: -- Black Archives, but it was restored with the assistance of
Miami -Dade County, and it is an architectural jewel in Overtown. It was expanded
upon to add some more modern features. It is where we have the Southeast
Overtown/Park West CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) offices. The
expanded portion of it has a wonderful courtyard, if you will, a wonderful space for
gatherings and formal events, and we have lots of things there. I think it's part of the
reason that you'll see the revitalization of Overtown, the entertainment that comes
back into that community. But the front of it, the original theater didn't have a roof,
so you can imagine the condition that it was in. So I would dare to say that this
playhouse is in better condition than what the theater was in Overtown, and but for
people who cared about restoring it to its original glory, it probably would be
different than what it is today. And so, I completely and wholeheartedly empathize
with those who are seeking to preserve a space in the way that it originally was. It's
been perverted, there's no doubt about that, but I think there could be some glory in
bringing it back to -- as close as you can -- to what you had before. So I'm in
support of the Vice Chairman's motion to grant in part and deny in part.
Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: You know, there's enough people here -- we've been discussing
it for hours, and we've been discussing it for years. To delay this could be a failure.
I think both party can get together. More or less, we know what we want, and I think
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we can do it. I think it's a lot easier to knock things down and rebuild it. It's a lot
expensive and -- less expensive than go ahead and to maintain what existed now.
But I think somehow, you all have to get together. You heard from all the parties in
here. You here in front of us. And you got enough brains out there. You got some
real good architects that come up with answers. So I'll support it, too.
Vice Chair Russell: One other item on funding -- and it's a little bit unrelated,
because it's nothing we can guarantee on, but one other item we deferred this
evening was the finding of necessity of the expansion of the Omni CRA. The Omni
CRA is looking at a projected TIF (Tax Increment Fund) of almost a billion dollars
over the next several years. And in the Omni CRA, we have recently purchased a
historic bank building for 4.5 million, and we're investing 3.2 million in its
restoration. We're also putting in almost a million dollars -- total cost, probably
$1.3 -- to restore the Dorsey Library, because that's one of the missions of a CRA, is
historic preservation, in addition to elimination of slum and blight. So as many of
you know, one of my goals is to hopefully expand the CRA to the Grove, and that
finding of necessity does include the playhouse and Charles Avenue as it ropes
around the West Grove. So there are opportunities to find funding here, and I've
promised Mayor Gimenez that I'm going to come to the table. I'm not simply going
to try to offer restrictions without putting some skin in the game. And I think the
team is an excellent team. And I think, even though this does move the goal post a
little, and it does shift things a little bit, and make it little more difficult, this team
can put it together, because they are very, very good, and their intention is good.
And so, that's where we are.
Chair Hardemon: Any further comment?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: One, I'd like to make it clear that while Commissioner
Russell talked about using some of that bond money that we approved recently, and
there might be some money available, but I also want to make it clear that if we can
use it for things such as the playhouse that we have many other playhouses, theaters
in the City of Miami that we also have to look at. For instance, the Chairman
mentioned the Lyric Theater; they still need money there. We have in downtown
Miami, which is really our jewel in all Miami, the --
Vice Chair Russell: Olympia.
Commissioner Carollo: -- Olympia Theater that we have there, and I don't know
how many millions of dollars we need there, but I guarantee you, it's not a small
amount.
Vice Chair Russell: It's 20.
Commissioner Carollo: And you talk about something historic, that's got to be the
most historic piece of property that we have in Miami right now. We have Manuel
Artime in Little Havana. We have the Tower Theater that, while Miami -Dade is
managing for us, we still have certain responsibilities, and I could go on into other
areas. So don't expect that if there is money, it's going to be a big chunk that's going
to resolve the amount -- the extra amounts that I have heard here. But, you know, I
personally have some problems with so many restrictions that we're placing, even
though I understand that we're trying to keep the historic part as original as we can,
but I don't know if Mr. Springs [sic] is still here or not.
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Chair Hardemon: He is.
Commissioner Gort: Yes, he's here.
Commissioner Carollo: Can I ask him to come up to ask him a question, Mr.
Chairman?
Chair Hardemon: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: Thankyou. Mr. Springs [sic] --
Chair Hardemon: Oh, before you --
Commissioner Carollo: Sure.
Chair Hardemon: The -- I think the Lyric Theater has about 400 seats maybe or --
Mr. Spring: About, yeah.
Chair Hardemon: About 400 seats. And really, it's not enough to really have
enough to properly have an event there and sell tickets at a price that's affordable
for the people that live around the neighborhood, if I can -- if that's clear.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. What would be the County's position on the
approach that Commissioner Russell has presented for us to vote on? Would you --
Mr. Spring: Sure. Thanks, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: -- be in a position to make a statement on that?
Mr. Spring: Yeah, be happy to do that.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Mr. Spring: So I want to address a few things and then ask for some clarification,
because we're a little unclear about some of the conditions. But I would say that the
County's position would be that we have a lease with the State of Florida that calls
for a 300 -seat theater, and that lease took us a full year to negotiate, and there are
three parties to the lease; the County, FIU, and the State of Florida. We had to
demonstrate to the State that the model that we were putting forward, the 300 -seat
theater, was a sustainable model from the point of view of operations, and that we
had ever last dollar secured to do the work on that. We will be held to the same
standards by the State this time, and I'm concerned about the delays that would be
involved in going back and attempting to renegotiate a lease at this point, and prove
to the State that we could do this. Beyond that, I would point out to you that 600
seats has nothing to do with the historic nature of this building. The building opened
as a movie theater in 1927 with 1,100 seats; and as you heard testimony today, that
seat count changed over the years, and it was never 600 seats. And so, I'm unclear
about what 600 seats has to do with the issue before you tonight, which is the
historic preservation appeal. So that would be my response to number one. We
heard that there was an interest in preserving the shell of the existing auditorium,
and I would just say to you that that shell represented the spatial relationship of a
1927 silent movie theater, and what you have today in the closed Coconut Grove
Playhouse is Exhibit A" for why it never worked as a working theater. It was
mutilated to try to make it work, and eventually, it failed. Our conclusion was that in
order to make this a sustainable model as a working theater, we pretty much had to
start over again, but part of that conclusion was, much to Commissioner Russell's
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point, that we are absolutely committed to saving every last bit of historic material
inside of that theater. There isn't that much, but our design preserves the entire
double proscenium arch; it preserves the Solomonic columns that you saw; it
preserves the fountain, and it preserves the molding, and these are the elements that
remain in that theater after these mutilations occurred. So I would say to you that
requiring us to save the shell condemns us to investing a lot of money in a theater
that still won't work as a working Twenty -First Century theater that meets Code,
ADA, and safety requirements.
Commissioner Carollo: Michael --
Mr. Spring: So --
Commissioner Carollo: I'm sorry. If I can stop you for a minute --
Mr. Spring: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: -- because this is a question that I always have when we
have plans like that. In fact, I don't even know if it's ever been asked. And one that I
forgot, the Marine Stadium. Has there been any pro formas of how much money we
are to make or lose every year based on the 300; or before, on the 600, or whatever
amount of seats there are? What is going to be the cost for upkeeping, for salaries,
et cetera? The bottom line is, do we have any notion on your plan, how much are we
going to have to put into it each year, or if it's going to break even? And on the plan
that Commissioner Russell is bringing forth, I doubt it, unless that was done before,
if there's any idea of how much it's going to lose every year. And where is the money
going to come every year to pay for the deficits? And I mean, the City of Miami gave
the Olympia Theater to a group, because we couldn't afford it. I don't know what's
happened to that group, but I hear that they just keep asking money from us. So
what did we give it away for? The Tower Theater, we gave it away for the same
reasons. So it seems we don't learn. We give away properties, because we can't pay
the deficits. And I don't want to get into another situation that, because we want to
go so big, we end up not being able to pay for the big plans that we all would like.
And at the same time, my concern is that instead of at least having half of the baby,
we wind up having none, and particularly, from what I've heard from you in how
long it's taken to negotiate with the State, and I read between the lines, that -- there
might be a possibility we might lose all that State funding, and if we do, then where
are we at?
Commissioner Gort: Yep.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Mr. Spring: Well, I'd like to answer the question about sustainability, because we
were required by the State of Florida in our lease to provide a plan of how the 300 -
seat theater would work as a sustainable operation from a business point of view,
right? So -- And the Mayor's instructions to me -- Mayor Gimenez' instructions to
me were, `Make sure that this works without a County subsidy. " And so, in that
business plan is an operating forecast that demonstrates that. The Mayor and I had
a conversation as recently as this morning, when he asked me once again, "What
would happen if we went to a larger number of seats in the theater?" I pointed out
to him that we have theaters of that size, and they require subsidies from the County
or from whomever to operate successfully as a business entity. The South Miami -
Dade Cultural Arts Center, which we built some years ago, which is roughly 900
seats, requires a $3.3 million -a year subsidy for that theater to operate successfully.
Commissioner Carollo: 3.3 million?
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Mr. Spring: 3.3 million
Commissioner Carollo: Wow.
Mr. Spring: These are expensive operations. And what we've put forward in our
plan to the State, and we're putting forward in our request to you tonight, is a
sustainable business model that works, and it's on its way, and it will be successful.
And I can tell you that the Mayor called me this evening, hearing this discussion, to
make sure that I told you that we -- that the Mayor does not agree with the
conditions being put forth, and that the County's money -- the $20 million for this
project is assured and it's in the bank, and none of these other funds are assured.
And I would like to ask, just as a point of clarification, you know, if this motion were
to go forward, what sort of real evidence would we need that this money was in
place? Because we can't move forward on a different plan with amendments to a
lease and giving different instructions to an architectural team, which will have to
begin redesign of the project without knowing that this money existed in cash as soon
as possible so that we don't have delays for this project. I can tell you, embedded in
my question to you is a sense of impracticality of all of this in regard to moving this
project forward.
Chair Hardemon: So I'm looking at 2008, April 10, Coconut Grove Playhouse, 300 -
seat professional theater plan, if you will. I'm assuming, this is what you're
describing as the plan to finance or to have this as an ongoing asset without any
assistance or any supplement by the Miami -Dade County, right?
Mr. Spring: Mr. Chairman, I know what you're looking at, because I'm familiar with
the cover of it. It's what was put in the lease with the State of Florida, and it -- it's
what was given to our architects to begin the design, but it has evolved as the
architects have designed it so that we can fine-tune it and make sure that we stay on
budget.
Chair Hardemon: So my question then to you is -- this is all that I have before me
that kind of gives me an idea of what it will cost to run a public theater. As I
understand, public theaters take supplements. You have public -- from public
theaters to public museums. I mean, I can't name anything that is for a public
consumption where people who come in and they produce a play, a show, a dance, a
song, anything where there's enough traffic to truly pay for the -- that facility to
continue to thrive. All of them, all those public facilities have -- or they should at
least have friends of that public place, because they need those additional dollars.
You need the private sector to come in and say, "Hey, we believe in what's going on
here. We'll raise $1 million a year to supplement it " We look at what -- one of our
assets that's in District 2, and this is the Perez Art Museum. This is a public facility,
and it is no doubt that it needs public subsidies in order for it to move forward.
Mr. Spring: And it does. It receives it.
Chair Hardemon: The Lyric Theater is something that has needed public subsidies
in order for it to move forward.
Mr. Spring: And we fund it.
Chair Hardemon: Well, you funded the --
Mr. Spring: No, we fund the operations as well. We provide operating support.
Chair Hardemon: You got to tell me how much you give of that, because --
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Mr. Spring: I believe it's a little bit over a hundred thousand dollars a year.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. So there are different -- there are all these different
entities that require public support, so I just don't understand what makes this one so
different. So I --
Mr. Spring: Well, I can explain that, and simply said, that the model for nonprofit
organization survival is this combination of earned revenue -- as you point out, ticket
sales and other earned revenue -- contributions from individuals and corporations
and government support. All of them exist this way. GableStage currently applies
for and receives County grants. We anticipate that that will continue through our
competitive grants process. They also receive State grants, and they're very
favorably reviewed at the State; and they receive private foundation grants as well.
So I'm not saying that there won't be any public money in the new Coconut Grove
Playhouse. All I'm saying to you is that we are not guaranteeing that money, and we
have a model that allows us to do that; that allows GableStage to run it, based on
what monies that they can get through competitive grants processes. I would also
point out that if you look at our business plan in the lease, it assumes an amount of
money that comes off of the parking garage and the related retail at the ground level.
It's a little more than a hundred thousand dollars a year that we anticipate that those
elements will spin off to help support the theater, and we made assurances to the
State that every last dollar of the net proceeds of that parking would be dedicated to
the success of the theater.
Chair Hardemon: So say you're wrong. Say we build -- you build exactly what you
want to build and you're wrong. Will Miami -Dade County allow this theater to fail
or will it most likely supplement the operations of the theater?
Mr. Spring: Well, I would prefer for you to accept the fact that I have 34 years of
experience in working with nonprofit organizations and theaters, and that we have
successful models of theaters of all kinds -- ones that are heavily subsidized, ones
that are lightly subsidized -- and say to you that I'm willing to put my professional
reputation on the record today, saying that the plan that we've put forward today will
be successful, and Miami -Dade County will work hard to make it successful. That's
our commitment. That's what we're doing.
Vice Chair Russell: Just a brief question.
Chair Hardemon: Please.
Vice Chair Russell: What percentage of the revenues in your model come from ticket
sales versus parking, apartments, restaurant, and retail? How does the model work?
Because that's where I'm worried; that if we're minimizing the theater and
maximizing the other uses in order to make it financially viable, are we actually
giving up the potential of having a better theater?
Mr. Spring: Well, no, Commissioner. I mean, the model that we've put forward, I
said, assumes a very modest amount of money from parking. If, in working with the
Miami Parking Authority, we can improve that, it just makes for more things the
theater can do. They can do more education outreach, they can do more elaborate
productions, and all of that. But we've put forward a very conservative model that
takes what theaters do today, which is roughly half of their budgets come from
earned revenue and the balance comes from contributions and, as I mentioned,
grants support. We've taken that model and we've put it forward as the model for the
Coconut Grove Playhouse. It's nota new model. It's a proven model. It's one that's
working together for GableStage in their current location.
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Chair Hardemon: So how many parking spaces is it in this garage?
Vice Chair Russell: 500.
Mr. Spring: Well, the current garage that -- the current number of spaces that are
shown in the garage -- and I would ask our architectural team to correct me if I'm
wrong -- I believe are approximately 400 spaces. But I believe Art Noriega was here
earlier. He is here tonight. And that number may be adjusted down, because we are
hearing the input from the community, as Commissioner Russell has correctly
pointed out, that the profile of the garage may be too tall. And so, there -- I'm --
we're having conversations with the Miami Parking Authority right now about
lowering the garage and lowering its profile. And so, those conversations and -- you
know, if you want to hear from Art directly, he's here, but I'm -- the conversations
we've had are about doing that.
Chair Hardemon: And who would you anticipate patronizing the space? And when
I say, "the space, " I mean, the entire campus. If you have a parking garage and you
have a 300 -seat theater that probably won't be filled every single night of the --
Mr. Spring: Well, I want to be careful about stretching my credibility, because I've
just told you I have 34 years as a cultural affairs department director and employee,
but I have more limited experience as a parking expert. And so, you do have your
parking expert here, but I can tell you in my conversations with Art Noriega, you
know, that end of the Grove does not have parking, and we're anticipating that the
businesses in the Grove, people that frequent the businesses will have the advantage
of a parking garage. I can also tell you that the schools in the area are interested in
day -time parking, which is a perfect complement to the theater, which will be largely
nighttime and weekend parking. And so, the business model for this that Art is
working on anticipates all of those uses for parking, and that's about as far as my
expertise goes.
Commissioner Carollo: If I may I ask one question in the area of parking and retail,
which, if I heard you correctly, your business plan is showing approximately a
hundred thousand of revenue from parking and retail. How many square feet of
retail do you have there?
Mr. Spring: So, again, I'm going to have to defer to our architects for square feet.
But I would also say to you, Commissioner, that it's a modest amount of retail,
because it's the -- storefronts on the existing historic front building, which are
relatively modest footprints, and there's a restaurant associated with the parking
garage.
Commissioner Carollo: The reason I'm asking is because with constrains that have
been placed on this motion, I don't know if, at all, it's going to affect in how many
parking spaces you'll be able to place, and if it'll affect the amount of retail that you
were planning on having. So I think we need that question answered.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. Commissioner Carollo, if we could hear from Art
Noriega, I believe the MPA will be managing the majority of that part of the business
model, and so he may be able to shed some light here. Hello, Mr. Noriega.
Art Noriega: Good evening. Art Noriega, Miami Parking Authority. So we have --
as Michael mentioned, we've been -- had some very preliminary discussions. Right
now the current parking inventory is roughly about 450 spots. What we're looking at
is actually reducing that by a couple of floors, probably taking the inventory to
somewhere in that 325, 350 range. When we -- as we re -analyze -- in fact, I just met
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with our in-house people, and we sort of reevaluated our assumptions. The existing
demand on that lot peak is about a hundred spaces. The current lot has 160 spaces.
We fill about 100 to 120 at peak, but the consistent demand is about a hundred
spaces. So if you take that current demand, you add a 300 -seat theater, which really
runs at a one -space -per -three -seat ratio, you might need another hundred spaces.
So at nights and on the weekends -- right -- basically, the demand will be 200, plus
there'll be some existing demand from the retail office, which is about 15,000 square
feet in the current plan. And so, a reduced plan -- and with a shared use -- and when
Michael talks about schools, he talks about the adjacent five -story office building,
which is currently under construction, which is under parked in terms of its
inventory, they're a perfect shared use -- complement shared use to a theater
operation, because they function during the weekdays --
Vice Chair Russell: Daytime.
Mr. Noriega: -- during the day.
Commissioner Carollo: But the bottom line, Art, would a reduced amount ofparking
-- and I don't know if you'll have to reduce the retail -- can you still bring in that
hundred thousand dollars that you have in your business plan?
Mr. Noriega: Yeah, because, remember, size isn't the issue here; it's turns that are
the issues, so it's utilization.
Commissioner Carollo: I understand, I understand.
Mr. Noriega: So I -- if I could reduce the garage and still get the same number of
turns, which is what we're evaluating now, the numbers are even better, because the
net numbers end up better. It carries a lot less -- right -- operational cost, debt, and
all of that. It's just a reduced number. So the net to the bottom line is even
improved.
Commissioner Carollo: Sure.
Vice Chair Russell: Is undergrounding an option in one of your models? Is that a
possibility?
Mr. Noriega: It's isn't now because of the cost. It's a significant cost.
Commissioner Suarez -- County Commissioner Suarez had asked me to do that
valuation for him, and I told him that one level of underground would increase the
cost of the facility about one and a quarter million dollars, so that's a significant
add-on to the overall debt. What we're trying to do -- the evaluation I'm doing now
is a reduced height, but no underground. If we have to go underground, it'll impact
that net number that we talked about, because now I have a bigger debt service
cover, so -- but we haven't -- I haven 't finished that yet, so I couldn't tell you exactly.
Vice Chair Russell: I know we're not coming completely out of left field, because
before the actual HEP Board application, there were two parallel plans that were
created by the County, if I'm not mistaken. There was a Plan "A," Plan "B"; one
having a larger theater; if the funding could be generated, and that seemed to be
something that the Mayor was -- Mayor Gimenez was looking to work out. If the
funding were there, he'd be open to the larger theater; and so, I'm wondering if you
did a business plan for that, and if it would have set you back with the State, or if
that -- you know, if that second plan -- because that second plan never got proposed
as an option, and that surprised me a little when we got to the HEP Board portion. I
thought both plans were going to be presented at the HEP Board as an option, if the
funding were there.
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Mr. Spring: The Mayor's been very clear with me, which is present a plan that you
can afford to do and that you have the money secured for. That second plan never
had secured money for it, but we developed it to see whether or not there would be
any traction for that. So to date, we haven't seen any evidence that there's money to
build the two -theater plan; hence, it was not presented, because why would we
confuse the public or the HEP Board by presenting a plan that wasn't feasible or had
no money assured for it? We're really committed to moving forward with a plan that
we can deliver, because we, too, feel the frustration about how long the Coconut
Grove Playhouse has been closed, and we're here tonight to ask you to deny the
appeal so that we can continue to move forward. We're halfway through the design
of this building right now, and we really don't want to stop. We want to deliver a
theater for Coconut Grove.
Commissioner Carollo: Michael, could you withstand another 45 to 60 days' wait?
Mr. Spring: You know, Commissioner, I don't want to appear to be unreasonable,
but I have the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Florida attending public meetings
and criticizing us for not moving quickly enough on this project, and I'm really
reluctant to tell you that we would agree tonight to a four -- another 45 -day delay in
the face of the Lieutenant Governor continuing to criticize us for not moving more
quickly on this project. And I can tell you for a fact that the Mayor has told me to
move as quickly as possible to deliver this project. He'd love to see it delivered by
the end of his term as Mayor of Miami -Dade County, but beyond that, we want to
deliver this project because this building's been closed for 11 years now, so --
Commissioner Carollo: I want to --
Mr. Spring: -- you know, with all due respect to -- I understand where you're
coming from, but I would respectfully ask that we aren't delayed any further with
this.
Commissioner Carollo: I understand. And, you know, it's like the situation we're
dealing here with. We all would like things the way that we would like them; bring
the theater back to its grandeur. Forget about 600; bring it back to the thousand -
plus, and all the old chandeliers and everything, the way that it used to be. That's
what we would like. On the other side, the reality might be that it's impossible to do
it. What I'm seeing here is that we -- we're looking at real possibility that we can
lose funding. You have a hundred days that -- basically, in the motion you've made,
you included that if the funding is not there in a hundred days --
Vice Chair Russell: We go back to the smaller --
Commissioner Carollo: -- bring it back. The way the motion is made right now,
Commissioner, I can't support it in good conscience, even though I understand just
how well-meaning you are in this. And look, years back, I was one of those that did
fundraising for that theater, so, you know, I've been part of the battle to keep it. And
all the friends we had, everything we did, we never had enough friends to keep it
going, and this is why we're in the state that we're in today. What I'd like to propose
-- and maybe you have the votes here, and don't matter, and that's fine -- is a
substitute motion that would not include anything that you have here. It's just a
substitute motion to defer this for 45 days to see if we could come up with funding for
the plan that you presented. Bring it back in a set date, within 45 days, and if we
could come up with funding for it that's realistical [sic], then, you know, we could go
forward with this plan; but if not, I think we need to be realistical [sic], too. And one
of the things that I think we need to look at also is have some idea of what kind of
deficit we're going to be dealing with, because if not, we're could have a brand-new
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place, and we're going to be choking at it on the first year or two. And as I said
before, we have a lot of other places that are choking us right now.
Commissioner Reyes: Absolutely.
Commissioner Carollo: So I -- you know, I'm discussing this now before I put a
substitute motion to that effect, and I respectfully would like to get some feedback
from you and the rest of my colleagues on it.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. From a fundraising perspective, I think 45 is a little
tight. From -- the word on the wind is the fundraising is going well, but the request
that's been put out there by Commissioner Xavier Suarez -- and I believe he's talking
with Mr. Eidson, who's doing the fundraising, and I'll be glad to help, as well, in any
way that I can -- they were looking for 90 days to raise their full portion, which I
believe was up to 15 million, and, you know, the claim is that they're already ha way
there. Who knows?
Commissioner Carollo: I'll tell you right now where he could get at least a hundred
thousand or more; all the money that's he's using to come at me still, so there's some
money right there he could use.
Commissioner Gort: Where?
Vice Chair Russell: The money he's using to come at him.
Commissioner Carollo: They spend more on that in investigators alone, but anyway.
Vice Chair Russell: Well can we find Commissioner Hardemon so we can vote on
this item? Because --
Commissioner Reyes: Let me -- there's something I want to say here.
Vice Chair Russell: Of course. I apologize. You were about to speak,
Commissioner Reyes.
Commissioner Reyes: You see, I've been listening to this, and it was going through
my mind, the-- and Commissioner Carollo is right -- venues that we have in the City
of Miami that we are subsidizing, one of them is the Knight Center. The Knight
Center was -- when it was built, it was built with all the projection in this world that
it was going to be a money-maker for the City of Miami, and the only thing that it
has done, it has always -- it has kept us on a hold every single year. And my fear is
that maybe we want to build a most magnificent theater, and I believe that we have
to do something for the Coconut Grove's Playhouse, and we have to do it. We have
to do it. But I don't -- my fear is that -- not as much as much money we have to build
it as how are we going to keep it? How are we going to maintain? Maintenance is
what really concerns me. And I have no doubt that maybe we can go around and
gather a lot of contribu -- I mean, sponsors and all of that, maybe for the
construction phase, but we have to be realistic, and we have to build a theater that
can -- I mean, that we can keep, and we cannot drain funds every year, as we have
been draining funds from our general fund to the Knight Center and other venues
that we're subsidize -- I think that Commissioner Carollo's motion, it makes sense. I
mean, I know that everybody in Coconut Grove wants this thing done. I really would
like to see it, and I would like to go there and watch a play, but we have to be
realistic. And if we -- I mean, if we start the rebuilding of that venue, and later on, it
is not -- it's not able to be self -maintained, then we're going to be in another hole.
And the City of Miami, many people believe, is a poor city, you see. We don't -- we
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are not such a rich city, as many people believe. And what I would like to see is
projections, like I said; a business plan that you have, and a projection on what's the
cost of maintenance; and then a projection of 10 years, for example; a 10 year
projection of, if we build it, to what scale it's going to be built, how much revenue
it's going to generate, and how much subsidy it's going to require, you see. Then we
have to be realistic. Let's stay realistic. Let's stay realistic.
Vice Chair Russell: Of course. I do have to say one thing, though. Of course, we
certainly have to be careful of our expenditures and our many assets, but if we're
going to do it, we want to do it right, and -- My son went to Coconut Grove
Elementary, not even 200 yards from the theater there, and they have their
auditorium. It's about a 320 -seat auditorium. And he can't even have his Christmas
show there without doing shifts to bring the kids in, because that little elementary
school can't bring all their kids in to do an assembly. That's the size of theater that
we're talking about at a 300 -seater. It doesn't match with the grandeur of the
Coconut Grove Playhouse. Now, where I came up with 600 -- and, you know, if we -
- if the thousand had its own flaws to start with, but also it's unattainable, we know,
financially, you know, is 600? And I said, "at least," because that gives us some
room, you know, with the black box, with, you know, whatever is appropriate. I'm
not the one to decide that in terms of where the seating goes and how. But from a
historic perspective, to me, 300 seats doesn't honor the history of that theater. And
so, I want to do it right to the extent that we can. I don't want to create a financial
hole. None of the financing options that I've suggested create a hole in the City from
the general fund. You know, these are options that aren't solid yet, whether it's the
bond, whether it's the CRA, whether it's philanthropic, but they are all potentially
there. Forty-five days during Christmas might be a little tough to gather it together,
but I believe it's possible to put together.
Commissioner Reyes: We all do respect that, Commissioner, and I hear you talking
about the CRA, the CRA, and like the CRA, it is piggybank that can finance every
project. The CRA has a specific function, you see. Tax increment financing has a
specific project -- I mean, purpose for the specific region, you see. As a matter of
fact, I was the principal economic analyst of the Overtown/Park West
Redevelopment Project, where the first CRA was created, and we use TIF for the
first time in the City of Miami. So I mean, CRA --
Vice Chair Russell: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) understand it.
Commissioner Reyes: --cannot be like a piggybank that you can take from here and
take over there, you see. It has a specific function, and I would like to keep it like
that.
Vice Chair Russell: Well, we don't need to have that discussion today. It's certainly
not (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Reyes: No, no, no, but we are -- you are incorporating funds -- I
mean, you are suggesting that --
Vice Chair Russell: That it's a potential.
Commissioner Reyes: -- we could incorporate --
Vice Chair Russell: That it's a potential.
Commissioner Reyes: It's a potential that --
Vice Chair Russell: Right.
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Commissioner Reyes: -- we going to have --?
Commissioner Gort: Let me add to it. The fundraising you're going to do is going to
be a one time.
Vice Chair Russell: Yep.
Commissioner Gort: And then the projection's got to come when you go to 600 seat;
what the market is going to be like, how much it's going to produce, and what it's
going to be subsidized from the City of Miami, because those will not be reoccurring
funds; that'll be a one-time revenues coming in. You need reoccurring revenues so
we make sure that if they can't come up with the money to do that, but if we can --
also have to come up with a plan --
Commissioner Carollo: Sure.
Commissioner Gort: -- that the recurring fundings [sic], they're going to be there to
support that. So this is something that we can take a decision today, but then it's got
to come back with a different plan.
Commissioner Carollo: I'd like to make a substitute motion that we will defer this
item to 45 days, the end of January; give time to everyone that wants to fundraise to
see what they could have, and we take it up in 45 days.
Vice Chair Russell: At the moment, there is a motion on the floor.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes, there is, but it's a substitute motion.
Chair Hardemon: It will supersede it.
Commissioner Carollo: It would supersede that, if it's second and then voted upon.
Commissioner Reyes: Well, I second your motion for discussion, but can I second on
a substitute motion? Well, I will second it.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved and seconded that we continue this item for
45 days, to allow the entities that are involved to see if there are any financing
options that they could discover to help -- and that's to help with Commissioner
Russell's idea?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, with the idea that he proposed.
Commissioner Reyes: The idea that he proposed, and see if it is feasible.
Commissioner Carollo: What I'm basically saying, Mr. Chairman, is where's the
beef?
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Bring it up, you know, if it's there. If it's not, then let's at
least have half debate than none of it at all.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. It's been properly --
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: Mr. Chairman, just for clarification.
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Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: If that substitute motion is proceeded upon, is there any
specification of the amount of money and how it's to be shown by a statement, by a
CPA as being unencumbered, allocated, available? In what manner should that be
certified or --?
Commissioner Carollo: I don't want to get that far into it. I think we're all mature
enough --
Commissioner Reyes: Yep.
Commissioner Carollo: -- to know what a commitment, a real commitment has to be
like, and we could make that determination in 45 days. You know, if it's `:just a
promise, " I think, " "maybe, " I don't think anyone here's going to buy that. We all
know what real hard dollars are, so we expect that to come back in a way that is
truly acceptable to anyone logical.
Vice Chair Russell: Before we vote, I'd like to discuss the fact that this motion
superseding the initial motion doesn't -- isn't so different in its end effect, except for
tabling a lot of the elements that we would have put in place, because I was looking
for conditions based on the HEP Board's original decision and the appeal, and some
of those could outlive what I was looking for; a hundred -day fundraise, that would
say, "Okay, these are the conditions we're going to hold to in terms of scale of
garage and," you know, "the various elements, but if that fundraising comes into
place, then you kick in the larger theater; if it doesn't, some of those elements we
discussed stay in place, they can keep rolling; it doesn't stop us completely for 45
days. "
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, we understand that. What I don't want to do, either,
Commissioner, is get somebody from the State that gets bits and pieces of what we've
done, they don't understand it; and before you know it, they're threatening to pull the
rug under us, the financial rug, so that's why I want to make it simple. I think we all
know what we're trying to accomplish, so that's why I made it simple.
Vice Chair Russell: But they could threaten the same thing just for us doing nothing
for 45 days versus at least having ruled on the appeal.
Chair Hardemon: So let me -- I have a question for clarification. Mr. Vice
Chairman, are you saying that -- Your original motion that spoke of more seats than
the 300. But you're saying that if the funding is not found, there's no funding for it,
then the plan that the County has proposed can move forward, as it is?
Vice Chair Russell: With the other conditions that would survive. There were
certain conditions not having to do to the number of seats, which I do believe should
survive.
Chair Hardemon: Preservation of the columns, scale of the garage --
Vice Chair Russell: Scale of the garage. There was one -- and if I didn't mention it,
I meant to -- that the line of sight from the street should not include anything hulking
over the fenestration, the crenellations that detract from the historic facade. So if
they do decide to build a black box on top, for example -- I know that wasn't your
plan, but that was one of other plans -- but any structure on top that it set back
enough so that the historic view from the front is what it always should be. So these
are things that, regardless of whether that money comes, they can do, and that does
speak to the appeal, it does speak to the Historic Environment Preservation Board's
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ruling. The only part that really comes into play -- and they had that originally in
their plan -- if the money's here, we'll do this. If the money's not here, we'll do this.
And if after a hundred days -- and all this goes in place and we move forward -- we
can't find the money, I don't have skin in the game, and I can't hold the Mayor to a
larger plan. I have to accept what he has put in place and is ready to do. And so,
that's my proposal that actually lets us move forward, instead of just completely
sitting on our hands for 45 days. I believe this adds forward motion to that. So I
know there's a superseding and a second to that, but --
Commissioner Carollo: I don't think that we'll be sitting on our hands. I don't know
if, Mr. Chairman, you want Mr. Spring to address that?
Chair Hardemon: No, I don't think -- I think we've had enough discussion about the
matter. I understand where you're coming from, Mr. Vice Chairman; and so,
therefore, I'm ready to vote on the motion that was presented by Commissioner
Carollo.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Mr. Kuvin: Chairman, may I just have one word? The only thing that I would say is,
is that I applaud you for wanting to have some -- the financial responsibility go
along with this. However, I have spoke [sic] with Mr. Eidson, and I believe that
after speaking with him that at least 90 days or -- would be more fair for him to raise
that money to have the financial responsibility to get that money somewhere, because
I know that he has spoken to many people. This project's been in the works for 12
years. We're asking for 90 days. And certainly, the Lieutenant Governor would
understand that if we're asking for 90 days, and it's the appellants or the City of
Miami that's granting that, that he would know that Mr. Spring would not be
responsible for that. He certainly can't control what goes on here today. The sec --
Commissioner Carollo: Get that in writing for me from the Lieutenant Governor or
the Governor, and I'll be happy to extend that in another motion.
Mr. Kuvin: The second thing I would say is, if you could please just relinquish
jurisdiction on the issue of whether the inside is historically significant or not back
to the HEP Board to allow them to discuss it, and if they feel that it's an issue that
needs to be addressed, that they will have a presentation on it and that they can do
what they want to do on that. I know that they discussed it at their May meeting and
I know it's important to them, and I know it's something that they want to address,
and I feel like that they would not be able to do that if you didn't just relinquish that
little bit of this particular issue that's before you today.
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: Mr. Chair, if I may just respond to that. The Code does provide
that interiors are designated when it's specifically included in the Designation
Report; otherwise, not. And the procedures for designating are also set forth in the
Code; specifically, you have to go through the same process as you do in the original
designation. That's what's in the Code. That's what's required. You have to give
notices. You have to have someone moving forward. You know, the City has
experienced that before, and I'm just -- I just want to tell you that's what Chapter 23
requires.
Vice Chair Russell: Is your suggestion that my -- one of my clauses about preserving
those interior items might not be enforceable, because the interior is not considered
in the initial designation?
Mr. Suarez -Rivas: I thought that, as I understood it, Commissioner, you were
speaking about the preservation of those items; just like many times, artifacts and
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important architectural features are maintained. But no, the interior, in my opinion,
is not designated.
Vice Chair Russell: And we agree as well. We're not trying to save the actual seats
themselves or anything like that. The structure, though, in my interpretation of the
original HEP Board decision, including the rear structure, is designated. The
interior, it seems, is safe, regardless, because all sides want to preserve the
proscenium, the Solomonic columns, and the important features that are inside, so
that's not too much of a concern.
Chair Hardemon: So the motion on the floor right now is Commissioner Carollo's
motion. So I'll ask, all in favor of Commissioner Carollo's motion, say "aye. "
Commissioner Reyes: Aye.
Commissioner Carollo: Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against?
Vice Chair Russell: Nay.
Commissioner Gort: Nay.
Chair Hardemon: I'll also say "nay. " That motion fails. So the motion then is the
motion that Commissioner -- the Vice Chairman has put forward. Any further
unreadiness on that motion? Hearing none, all in favor of that motion, say "aye. "
Vice Chair Russell: Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against?
Commissioner Carollo: Nay.
Chair Hardemon: The motion passes.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Chair, for the record, is that 3-2, with Commissioner
Carollo and Commissioner Reyes voting "no "?
Chair Hardemon: That's what it appears to be, yes.
Mr. Hannon: Okay, understood. As amended.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
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AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of
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Planning
MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
("MCNP") PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO SECTION 163.3187, FLORIDA
STATUTES BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
OF APPROXIMATELY 62,593 SQUARE FEET OR 1.44 ACRES FROM
"LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO "MAJOR
INSTITUTIONAL, PUBLIC FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND
UTILITIES" FOR THE REAL PROPERTIES APPROXIMATELY
LOCATED AT 5265 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE, 10 NORTHEAST 53
STREET, 20 NORTHEAST 53 STREET, 32 NORTHEAST 53 STREET,
42 NORTHEAST 53 STREET, 58 NORTHEAST 53 TERRACE, 57
NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, 43 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, 35
NORTHEAST 53 TERRACE, 25 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, 17
NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, AND 11 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13720
MOTION TO: Adopt
RESULT: ADOPTED
MOVER:
Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Gort, Carollo
ABSENT:
Russell, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ. 7, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Commissioner Gort: Next.
Chair Hardemon: PZ 7 is an ordinance. Can you read it into the record, please?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Before we continue on the item, I want to
make a Jennings disclosure. I have met with the proponents of this land use SAP
(Special Area Plan) and development agreement, so PZ. 7, 8, and 9, where they've
described to me the benefits of this to the neighborhood, to the health systems, and
how they want to move forward with this project. And so, I want all parties to be
aware that that disclosure is being made right here on the record The Chair would
like to entertain a motion to approve PZ. 7.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Hardemon: Well, moved by Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, I make the motion; you're going to second it.
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Chair Hardemon: Okay, that's -- that works. Moved by Commissioner Carollo;
seconded by the Chair. Any further discussion on it? Hearing none, all in favor, say
"aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against?
Commissioner Gort: Great presentation.
Chair Hardemon: Motion passes.
PZ.8 ORDINANCE Second Reading
2843 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), PURSUANT TO ARTICLES 3 AND 7 OF
Planning ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED ("MIAMI 21 CODE"), REZONING
CERTAIN PARCELS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
APPROXIMATELY 20.975 ACRES (913,683,200 SQUARE FEET) FOR
THE "MIAMI JEWISH HEALTH SYSTEMS SPECIAL AREA PLAN"
("SAP"), A MEDICAL CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 5060, 5200, AND 5246 NORTHEAST 2 AVENUE;
5201 AND 5265 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE; 95,145, AND 155
NORTHEAST 50 TERRACE; 71 AND 75 NORTHEAST 51 STREET; 10,
20, 32, 42, AND 58 NORTHEAST 53 STREET; AND 11, 17, 25, 35, 36,
43, 44, 57, AND 61 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A" ("SELECTED
PARCELS"); THE SAP CONSISTING OF A PHASED PROJECT
DIVIDED INTO A MAXIMUM OF FOUR (4) PHASES WHICH
INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 1,497,754 SQUARE FEET OF
STRUCTURES AFTER ALL PHASES OF THE SAP ARE COMPLETED
AND INCLUDING: A) PHASE I: EMPATHICARE BUILDING WITH
THREE-STORY GARAGE; B) PHASE II: INSTITUTE AND FIVE -STORY
GARAGE; C) PHASE III: CONFERENCE AND HOTEL CENTER; AND
D) PHASE IV: CYPEN TOWER CONNECTOR, WELCOME CENTER,
THERAPY CENTER, THERAPY VILLAGE, VILLAGE BISTRO,
CREATIVE ART CENTER, AND SUMMER GARDEN; THE SAP WILL
MODIFY THE TRANSECT ZONE REGULATIONS THAT ARE
APPLICABLE TO THE SELECTED PARCELS AND WHERE A
REGULATION IS NOT SPECIFICALLY MODIFIED BY THE SAP, THE
REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS OF THE MIAMI 21 CODE WILL
APPLY; THE SQUARE FOOTAGES ABOVE ARE APPROXIMATE AND
MAY INCREASE OR DECREASE AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT
BUT SHALL NOT EXCEED 1,497,754 SQUARE FEET OF
DEVELOPMENT AND SHALL CONTAIN A MINIMUM OF 63,277
SQUARE FEET OF CIVIC SPACE AND A MINIMUM OF 461,601
SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE; MAKING FINDINGS OF FACT AND
STATING CONCLUSIONS OF LAW; PROVIDING FOR BINDING
EFFECT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING
FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13721
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MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner
AYES:
Hardemon, Gort, Carollo
ABSENT:
Russell, Reyes
Note for the Record: For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.8, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s) "and Item PZ. 7.
Chair Hardemon: Read into the record PZ. 8, please.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Chair Hardemon: Is there a motion to approve?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Carollo: Motion to approve.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved and seconded. All in favor of the motion,
say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Commissioner Gort: Commissioner Carollo, you remember this site, huh? This
goes way back with us.
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PZ.9 ORDINANCE Second Reading
2844 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
Planning PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 163, FLORIDA STATUTES, WITH THE
MIAMI JEWISH HEALTH SYSTEMS, INC. RELATING TO THE
REZONING OF CERTAIN PARCELS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
20.98 ± ACRES FOR THE MIAMI JEWISH HEALTH SYSTEMS
SPECIAL AREA PLAN ("MJHSSAP") COMPRISED OF SELECTED
PARCELS LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 5060, 5200, AND 5246
NORTHEAST 2 AVENUE; 5201 AND 5265 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE;
95,145, AND 155 NORTHEAST 50 TERRACE; 71 AND 75
NORTHEAST 51 STREET; 36 AND 44 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE; 10,
20, 32, 42, AND 58 NORTHEAST 53 STREET; AND 11, 17, 25, 35, 43,
57, AND 61 NORTHEAST 52 TERRACE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A", ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF REDEVELOPMENT OF
SUCH LAND FOR AN ENCLOSED HOSPITAL CAMPUS WITH A
RESEARCH INSTITUTE, HOTEL, AND MEMORY CARE FACILITY;
AUTHORIZING THE FOLLOWING USES, INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, LODGING, CIVIC,
EDUCATIONAL AND CIVIL SUPPORT, PARKING GARAGE, AND ANY
OTHER USES AUTHORIZED BY THE MJHSSAP AND PERMITTED
BY THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN —
FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION, AND ORDINANCE NO.
13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS AMENDED; AUTHORIZING A DENSITY OF
APPROXIMATELY SIXTY-FIVE (65) DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN
SOME AREAS AND ONE HUNDRED FIFTY (150) DWELLING UNITS
PER ACRE IN SOME AREAS; AUTHORIZING A BUILDING HEIGHT
BETWEEN FIVE (5) AND TWELVE (12) STORIES BASED ON THE
TRANSECT ZONE INCLUSIVE OF AVAILABLE BONUSES;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, FOR SAID PURPOSE; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13722
MOTION TO: Adopt with Modification(s)
RESULT: ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.9, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s) " and Item PZ. 7.
Chair Hardemon: Can you read into the record --
Commissioner Carollo: That it does.
Chair Hardemon: --PZ.9?
Commissioner Carollo: Way back.
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The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Chair Hardemon: Now, Commissioner Carollo asked that some information be
placed inside of the development agreement that included language that --
Iris Escarra: 12(d).
Chair Hardemon: 12(d).
Ms. Escarra: Iris Escarra, with offices at 333 Southeast 2nd Avenue. The copy of
the development agreement that's actually been circulated includes the language
that Commissioner Frank Carollo had requested at first reading to be added to the
agreement, and that's included in the version that's been circulated this evening.
Commissioner Carollo: You did include it?
Ms. Escarra: It is included --
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Ms. Escarra:--12(d).
Commissioner Carollo: Because if not, I couldn't vote for it.
Ms. Escarra: I understand. That's why I wanted to be clear.
Commissioner Gort: That's why he look so surprised.
Chair Hardemon: Now, you know how -- from the moment that I've come on this
dais, I've been a stickler for these types of things. And because of the nature of the
organization, you know, we haven't pressed you as hard as I would have pressed,
say for instance, SkyRise. That goes back to the very, very beginning. So I trust with
the team that you have that you will do right by that community, and all communities
in the City of Miami that need the help in getting things done. There is a desire for
people to work, and let's put them to it. Okay?
Ms. Escarra: Understood.
Chair Hardemon: All right. Is there a motion to approve?
Vice Chair Russell: Moved.
Commissioner Reyes: Move.
Commissioner Carollo: There is, but he let you off easy.
Vice Chair Russell: I'll move it.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Commissioner Reyes: I'll move it.
Ms. Escarra: I recognize that.
Commissioner Carollo: Only 25 percent, okay.
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Chair Hardemon: Its been properly moved --
Commissioner Carollo: So moved.
Chair Hardemon: -- and seconded to approve PZ.9. Any further discussion? All in
favor of the item, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Ms. Escarra: Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): As amended.
Chair Hardemon: Mr. Solowsky.
Jay Solowsky: On behalf of Miami Jewish and Mr. Freemark (phonetic) and myself,
and on behalf of the 12, 000 people who we take care of on an annual basis, I want to
thank you very much. I want to invite you all to come to the groundbreaking
tomorrow at Miami Jewish at 12:30, and tell you and express how much we
appreciate the assistance and cooperation that we have had. And Commissioner
Hardemon, we will -- will -- endeavor to take care of everyone in our community.
We are a good neighbor. We're a good employer. And we will continue for the next
77 years to do what we did for the last 77 years. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: I believe that, Mr. Solowsky. I don't think you all know this, but
the day that I found that I passed the Bar, I went to have dinner at one of the fine
restaurants on Biscayne Boulevard, Truluck's.
Commissioner Reyes: Truluck's.
Chair Hardemon: And while I'm there having drinks and food, and was celebrating,
Mr. Solowsky walks up to me; said, "What's the party for?" I just found out I
passed the Bar today. " That's how I met Mr. Solowsky. And so, from that moment
forth, he's -- I'm sure I -- I'm sure you think about that time. And to see where we
are today and how we interact, you know, it's been a pleasure. And so, I appreciate
how kind you were then and how kind you are today.
Mr. Solowsky: I appreciate that, Mr. Chair. And I think that that day, I also met a
gospel -- I think it was Mariel Epps --
Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Mr. Solowsky: -- who was sitting with you at the time --
Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Mr. Solowsky: -- as well as a family member.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Mr. Solowsky: And it was a pleasure to have met you then and to know you now.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, sir.
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Commissioner Reyes: Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: He didn't offer me a job, though. I already had one. I already
had one, so that's okay.
PZ.10
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3073
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Planning
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
AYES:
CLASSIFICATION FROM 75-0," URBAN CENTER - OPEN, TO 76-8-
0," URBAN CORE - OPEN, AND FROM 76-12-0," URBAN CORE -
OPEN, TO 76-8-0," URBAN CORE - OPEN, FOR THE
APPROXIMATELY .998 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 2850 TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND 2765 SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13723
MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER:
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Commissioner Gort: PZ. 10.
Chair Hardemon: PZ 10.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Thank you, sir. Item PZ10 is
before you on second reading. It is --
Chair Hardemon: Read the ordinance into the record.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Vice Chair Russell: This looks like a big presentation.
Iris Escarra: This is a second reading item. If you'd like, I'm happy to make a
presentation regarding it. It's the rezoning in Coconut Grove, 2850 Tigertail. This
is the one where we've -- there's two rezonings; one's an up -zoning; one's a down -
zoning. We've proffered a covenant to keep a portion of it as a park and a portion of
it at eight stories. That was in your backup.
Commissioner Carollo: What's there now?
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Ms. Escarra: Right there -- today, there's an office building. Its a two-story office
building, and we're proposing an eight -story office building. Right next to it is the
vacant site.
Commissioner Carollo: Two-story office building. So it's towards -- this is 28th.
Okay, so it's beyond 271h then. Its in the --
Vice Chair Russell: This is in the Center Grove.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, I was going to say Center Grove.
Vice Chair Russell: Iris, do you have a zoning map there?
Ms. Escarra: I do, I do.
Vice Chair Russell: I think that one tells the story.
Ms. Escarra: This is actually a site. When the Ritz got developed, this site got
replatted into one lot. However, when Miami 21 got adopted, it bifurcated the
zoning into half and half. So in order to develop on this site here -- You get to build
20 stories here, but only five stories here. So what we've agreed to do is down -zone
the 20 stories to only 12, and then further restrict it by covenant to eight, and up -
zone the T5 to eight stories. So now we're going to propose an eight -story building
here, and here we're keeping that as a public plaza. So this is going to be an open
plaza by covenant. That's in the backup.
Commissioner Carollo: How much extra is your client going to receive that he
wasn't allowed to by the previous zoning?
Vice Chair Russell: I would actually ask the opposite question: How much is lie
leaving on the table?
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Ms. Escarra: He's leaving approximately 20,790 square feet on the table that he's
not able to build, and that's because of the down -zoning and the up -zoning. So --
because on the T5 piece today, there's no multiplier for FLR (floor lot ratio). So as
long as you meet the 80 percent lot coverage, you can build a five -story box. So he's
actually -- Basically, what they're doing is what they would have otherwise built,
they're reducing it only to the three stories here and allowing for an eight -story
building, and that leaves about 20,700 square feet off the table.
Vice Chair Russell: I'll make the motion.
Commissioner Reyes: I'll second it.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved and seconded. Any further discussion with
the motion on the floor? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Ms. Escarra: Thank you very much.
Mr. Garcia: I'm sorry. Is that accepting the covenants?
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Vice Chair Russell: Yes, of course (UNINTELLIGIBLE) revenue. Thank you.
Mr. Garcia: As proffered.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you.
Ms. Escarra: Both, both.
Mr. Garcia: As proffered, two covenants. Thank you.
PZ.11
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3076
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS
Planning
AMENDED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL
SCALE AMENDMENT PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO SECTION
163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 1.096 ACRES OF REAL
PROPERTIES AT APPROXIMATELY 2222 AND 2260 NORTHWEST
NORTH RIVER DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A," FROM "DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL" TO
"LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13724
MOTION TO: Adopt
RESULT: ADOPTED
MOVER: Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner
SECONDER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 11, please read it into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman, I have the same question on this one. This
one, definitely, there's nothing being left on the table. It's from duplex to
multifamily. Can staff tell me how many units they're allowed to build out to how
many potential units that they're going to?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Happy to do, sir. In this
particular case, actually the zoning -- the existing zoning on the site is -- in this
particular case, the existing zoning for the site does not reflect, at all, what's built on
it. What's built on the site is more than would be available right now for
development. What they are proposing to do with the rezoning is to actually build to
T4 -R. That is actually a three-story, 36 -unit -per -acre zoning designation, which will
have a development result which is roughly the same as what is there today, except
in better fashion.
Commissioner Carollo: It's 36 units per acre?
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Mr. Garcia: Per acre; yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Which means that if they have duplex zoning now --
Mr. Garcia: My apologies; I couldn't hear you.
Commissioner Carollo: They have duplex zoning in the area, from what I'm
reading, right?
Mr. Garcia: That is correct; except, presently, the structures that are on site are
much higher than that, because they date back.
Commissioner Carollo: Its grandfathered from before --
Mr. Garcia: Right.
Commissioner Reyes: Yep.
Commissioner Carollo: -- in other words, but it's still duplex zoning.
Mr. Garcia: It is.
Commissioner Carollo: If they would tear that down, what would they be allowed to
build? What I don't know is how many duplex will we have here, how many lots we
have.
Mr. Garcia: So there are no duplex structures there presently; it is, instead, a
building of another sort that dates back to an old zoning ordinance.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. So it's just one lot then?
Mr. Garcia: Two lots in particular.
Commissioner Gort: Two lots.
Commissioner Carollo: So they could build up to four if they would tear that down,
legally?
Mr. Garcia: Four in each.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, two and two, if it's duplex.
Mr. Garcia: Oh, presently, yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, two and two. So it's a total offour.
Mr. Garcia: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: And by us giving them --
Commissioner Gort: This is second reading, right?
Commissioner Carollo: -- this up -zoning, how many units can they build in addition
to the four? They're not going to build the whole 36, because I don't believe there's
an acre there.
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Mr. Garcia: No, there isn't an acre. I was trying to do an estimation of what exactly
the size is. I'm going to approximately guess that there will be eight units.
Commissioner Carollo: Eight units. Okay, so it's not a huge amount, even though --
I'd like for us to start setting a precedent for our accessible homes that if developers
-- and I don't care who they are, whether it's big or small. Obviously, the smaller
they are, the less they're going to give. If they're going to make a nice profit that we
are being gracious in giving them something they are not entitled to, then I'd like for
them to start contributing voluntarily, or if we have to put an ordinance that would
meet legalities -- and I don't know if we can or not, but we might be able to structure
one that way; but if not, certainly, they could volunteer it- -- putting a piece of their
profits into a fund that eventually I hope that City of Miami Housing Authority would
handle, where we could build accessible homes throughout the whole City, whether
it's in empty lots that we could build single-family duplexes or multifamily that we
build. So having heard that, Mr. Lago, is there anything that your client is willing to
offer on the extra four units that he's getting if we approve this, or do you need time
to talk to him and see what he's willing to give the City right now?
Carlos Lago: Carlos Lago, with offices at 333 Southeast 2nd Avenue. And
Commissioner, respectfully, your question is regarding monetary -- or you're saying
a monetary --?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah; a contribution for accessible houses to the City of
Miami, and, of course, that's voluntarily. We're not forcing you to do anything. I
want to make sure you understand that.
Mr. Lago: Okay. Well, I do want to explain that we are rezoning to T4 -R, and the
Code does not require -- there's no riverwalk on the property right now, and I can
show you this.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm not talking about riverwalks. I'm talking that by
zoning, if you would tear down whatever you have there -- and I haven't seen it --
you could only build four units. On this, you're now going to be able to build eight.
Mr. Lago: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Its -- you're not going to be making the money that the big
buildings make; that we give them two, 300 extra units, and I understand that.
Mr. Lago: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Its only four more.
Mr. Lago: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: But there is some profit --
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) existing building there.
Commissioner Carollo: -- that your client --
Commissioner Gort: The apartment building.
Commissioner Carollo: -- is going to make, if we approve this.
Mr. Lago: No. I was going to discuss a public benefit that my client is voluntarily
proffering.
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Chair Hardemon: Before you get into the public benefit of it, I think that was a very
revealing distinction that you made, Commissioner Carollo, when you have large
numbers of units that are being granted --
Commissioner Carollo: Sure.
Chair Hardemon: -- because of the up -zoning versus smaller number. So, because I
realize that this is -- has been more intimately delved into by Commissioner Gort, I
want to direct our attention to Commissioner Gort's comments regarding the issue,
before we go any further.
Commissioner Carollo: And I agree that this is small.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Commissioner Gort: Let me tell you -- first, I would -- let me -- a Jennings
disclosure. I did meet with Mr. Lago on November 6, talking about this project, and
this will not change my mind in any way. But I can tell you that the -- right now,
there's two existing building in that area. And I can also tell you, there's no more
affordable housing and any density that we have in Allapattah. We have been able
to build quite a few affordable housing. Matter of fact, one of the things that I like
when you mention all the empty lots that we have. I've been asking, because we
have an organization that called ABDA (Allapattah Business Development
Association) that we building affordable housing and workforce housing for the
people in the area, because we got a lot of blue collars that live within that area, and
we want to maintain -- make sure they stay there; they don't have to move. At this
time, this project is going to make a great difference in that neighborhood. Those
building that exist there, the people are paying more or less what they're going to be
paying with the new buildings, and the new buildings is kind of a new architecture
that going to take place in there, pretty much like the one in Key West. So it's going
to be a great program for this area here. This is a second reading. This was passed
on the first reading, so I make a motion to approve.
Commissioner Reyes: I'll second it.
Commissioner Carollo: Just one last question: How many units do you have there
now?
Mr. Lago: There is a total of 20 units.
Commissioner Carollo: All right. You should have said that from the beginning.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Why don't you show the Commissioner the rendering of the
units, what they look like, and the building -- the existing building that's there at this
time?
Mr. Lago: So this is the public riverwalk.
Commissioner Carollo: How old is -- are the buildings that you have there,
approximately?
Mr. Lago: There's currently 21 units, and it is a two-story building. It's
multifamily. So we're actually legalizing this, because it's a nonconf)rming. Right
now, under the T3-0, you're only permitted duplex or single family.
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Commissioner Carollo: When was it built, what year? Its pretty old.
Mr. Lago: I'm not sure.
Mr. Garcia: Approximately, 1960, sir.
Mr. Lago: We don't our architect here.
Mr. Garcia: The year of record is 1960, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Right. 19?
Mr. Garcia: 1960.
Commissioner Carollo: 1960?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Surprising. Its fairly new, compared to some of the other
structures. Just -- you know, I -- the only reason I asked that is that I wonder
sometimes how in years past, especially in the `20s, `30s, `40s, how some buildings
got approved in the City, but -- you know, so I figured it was one of those, but this is
younger.
Commissioner Reyes: Can I --?
Chair Hardemon: It's been properly moved and seconded that we approve the item.
I know, Commissioner Reyes, you were the second. Do you have something you
want to say?
Commissioner Reyes: Yes. I want to make a comment on what Commissioner
Carollo said about starting a fund for affordable housing. I think that is very
important. I don't know -- and correct me if Fm wrong. Whenever we approve one
of those big buildings, there is -- isn't there a request of some -- of the apartments to
be designated for low income or for -- is this --?
Chair Hardemon: No.
Commissioner Reyes: No? I think we should start some sort of -- maybe through an
ordinance -- a resolution that starts something like that, and try to -- not for them to
be incorporated in those buildings, but start a fund where we can start --
Commissioner Gort: Well, we have that.
Commissioner Reyes: -- developing affordable housing.
Chair Hardemon: So, we do have an affordable housing fund, but --
Commissioner Gort: We have it.
Chair Hardemon: --there hasn't been a significant amount of dollars being put into
that fund because of the advent of --
Vice Chair Russell: TDRs (transfer of development rights).
Chair Hardemon: -- TDRs.
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Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: So transfer of development rights. And then also now -- I think
there's also the new advent -- well, there's a potential advent of the Underline --
Vice Chair Russell: The Underline.
Chair Hardemon: -- Fund.
Vice Chair Russell: Yep.
Chair Hardemon: And then, also the Park Fund, right?
Chair Hardemon: There's about three or four different funds.
Commissioner Reyes: I mean that --
Vice Chair Russell: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Reyes: -- the affordable housing money is going towards those
(UNINTELLIGIBLE)?
Chair Hardemon: No. Developers have a choice of which pot they want to put the
money into to generate --
Commissioner Reyes: Well, that's not what I'm saying.
Chair Hardemon: -- certain benefit funds. Vice Chairman.
Vice Chair Russell: We -- whatever differences we have on this dais, we are aligned
in affordability. I can hear it --
Commissioner Reyes: Absolutely.
Vice Chair Russell: -- in all -- in everybody's pledges in their voice, and I would
welcome a sunshine meeting to workshop this.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Vice Chair Russell: One of the things we directed earlier this year was the City
Manager -- and this was a concept that I had, and I don't know if it's quite right yet,
but it's on the path that I was thinking about. Any time that an entitlement is
requested, it's a gift, and that's what Commissioner Carollo was alluding to.
Commissioner Reyes: Absolutely.
Vice Chair Russell: This is density. This is units that you didn't have before that is
instantly value. You could double the value of your land by our decision right here.
That's worth something. And whether it's a fund that it's placed into or an
inclusionary requirement -- for example, if it's in an area of poverty or need that
within the bonus units that are allotted, a certain number are affordable. The
Affordable Housing Trust Fund is not utilized well enough, and I would like to
recommend that we start to -- instead of letting the developer choose where his
bonus monies go to that we, as a Commission, decide that which fund is most urgent
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Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Vice Chair Russell: -- whether it's parks, whether it's affordability; or even beyond
that, that -- let's say the first half of their bonus could not be used for TDRs but
would have to go into --
Commissioner Reyes: Affordable housing.
Vice Chair Russell: -- the benefits program, including affordable housing, et cetera.
And then after that, they could assess transfer development rights.
Commissioner Reyes: I think that that conversation will -- we -- I mean, it's very,
very important, and we must have it. And I'm looking forward with that sunshine
request that you made.
Commissioner Carollo: The problem that I think we have is we have some
ordinance that have a lot of bark but very little bite.
Commissioner Reyes: Yep.
Commissioner Carollo: And any time you let developers get a way that they're
going to give you `X" amount of affordable units, first of all, we don't have the
enforcement mechanism, and then we don't have any mechanism that spells out
clearly to them what is affordable, according to what we think is affordable. So, you
know, we end up that we give them a big chunk of change; they're happy as heck;
their pockets are going to be filled, but we still are left with the same problem that
we have citywide.
Vice Chair Russell: Yep.
Commissioner Carollo: The thousands ofpeople that are living like third world.
Vice Chair Russell: Yep.
Commissioner Reyes: Well, that's why we're here. We should create it.
Chair Hardemon: Board members, I will say that I want to push us through the
agenda.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, we need to.
Chair Hardemon: We're late into the night.
Commissioner Carollo: We need to.
Chair Hardemon: Its been moved and seconded, PZ.11. Seeing no further
discussion --
Commissioner Carollo: Call the question.
Commissioner Reyes: Call the question.
Chair Hardemon: -- I'd like to ask for a vote. All in favor of the item, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
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PZA2
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3077
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Planning
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
AYES:
CLASSIFICATION FROM 73-0," SUB -URBAN TRANSECT ZONE -
OPEN, TO 74-R," GENERAL URBAN TRANSECT ZONE -
RESTRICTED, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 2222 AND 2260 NORTHWEST NORTH RIVER
DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13725
MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: Can I -- can you read PZ 12 into the record, please?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by City Attorney.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Hardemon: It's been --
Vice Chair Russell: Second.
Chair Hardemon: -- properly moved, and seconded by the Vice Chairman. Any
further discussion on the item that's before us today, PZ.12? Hearing none, all in
favor of the item, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Carlos Lago: Thank you, Commissioners. Good evening.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
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PZ.13
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3144
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS
Planning
AMENDED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL
SCALE AMENDMENT PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO SECTION
163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION FROM "MEDIUM DENSITY RESTRICTED
COMMERCIAL" TO 'RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL" OF
APPROXIMATELY .85 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 704 SOUTHWEST 7 AVENUE AND 712, 716, 720,
AND 734 SOUTHWEST 7 STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.13 was deferred to the January 11, 2018, Regular
Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.13, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
Zoning Item (s). "
PZ.14 ORDINANCE Second Reading
3145 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
Planning CLASSIFICATION FROM 75-0," URBAN CENTER -OPEN, TO 76-8-
0," URBAN CORE—OPEN, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 704 SOUTHWEST 7 AVENUE AND 712, 716, 720,
AND 734 SOUTHWEST 7 STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.14 was deferred to the January 11, 2018, Regular
Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.14, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
Zoning Item(s). "
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PZ.15 ORDINANCE Second Reading
3147 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS
Planning AMENDED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN PURSUANT TO SMALL
SCALE AMENDMENT PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO SECTION
163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION FROM "MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY
RESIDENTIAL" TO "MEDIUM DENSITY RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL"
OF APPROXIMATELY 1.377 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTIES
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 824, 826, 834, 842, 852, 860, 868,
AND 876 NORTHWEST 1 STREET AND 29 NORTHWEST 9 STREET,
MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Continue
RESULT: CONTINUED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.15 was continued to the January 25, 2018,
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.15, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
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PZ.16
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3148
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Department of
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
Planning
CLASSIFICATION FROM "74-R," GENERAL URBAN TRANSECT -
RESTRICTED, TO 75-0," URBAN CENTER TRANSECT -OPEN, FOR
THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 824, 826, 834, 842, 852, 860, 868,
AND 876 NORTHWEST 1 STREET AND 29 NORTHWEST 9 AVENUE
AND BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM 76-8-0,"
URBAN CORE TRANSECT—OPEN TO 76-12-0," URBAN CORE
TRANSECT—OPEN, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 36 AND 40
NORTHWEST 8 AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; FURTHER WAIVING
THE 18 -MONTH LIMITATION FOR REZONINGS; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Continue
RESULT: CONTINUED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
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Notes for the Record. Item PZ.16 was continued to the January 25, 2018,
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.16, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
Zoning Item(s). "
PZA 7 ORDINANCE Second Reading
3074 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS
Planning AMENDED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL
SCALE AMENDMENT PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO SECTION
163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION FROM "SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO
"PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION" OF 0.19 ± ACRES OF REAL
PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY AT 1301 SOUTHWEST 21
AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13726
MOTION TO: Adopt
RESULT: ADOPTED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 17. Let me see. Is it an ordinance?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Item PZ 17 and 18 are
companion items. They are a land use change and rezoning for 1301 Southwest 21st
Avenue; the City is the applicant; before you on second reading. This is for a mini
park in District 4.
Chair Hardemon: Madam City Attorney, can you read it into the record?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Commissioner Reyes: We need more parks. And there are certain areas that we
don't -- we cannot acquire the amount of land for a huge park. Well, this is going to
be what is called a mini park, so people can go and they can take their dogs or take
the children to run or whatever, but at least have a green space -- I mean, open
space with green area, and they can go out and have a good time there.
Vice Chair Russell: I'll second it. Let's make a park.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: I'll take that as a motion by Commissioner Reyes and seconded
by the Vice Chairman. Any further discussion on the matter? Hearing none, all in
favor of the motion, say "aye. "
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The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Commissioner Reyes: Thank you. Thank you, guys.
PZ.18 ORDINANCE Second Reading
3075 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
Planning CLASSIFICATION FROM 73-R," SUB -URBAN TRANSECT -
RESTRICTED, TO "CS," CIVIC SPACE ZONE, FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 1301 SOUTHWEST 21 AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13727
MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.18, please see
Item PZ. 17.
Commissioner Carollo: Got 18.
Chair Hardemon: PZ 18, read it into the record, please.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Commissioner Reyes: This is (UNINTELLIGIBLE). This is a (UNINTELLIGIBLE),
not an ordinance. I move it.
Vice Chair Russell: Second.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Hardemon: Properly moved and seconded by two of our sitting
Commissioners. Any further discussion on the matter? Hearing none, all in favor of
the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
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PZ.19
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3003
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENTS, AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING
Planning
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING
"PARKING
AYES:
ARTICLE 5, SECTION 5.5.4, ENTITLED STANDARDS
ABSENT:
(T5)," TO ALLOW FOR PARKING IN THE SECOND LAYER ABOVE
THE FIRST STORY BY WAIVER IN A T5 TRANSECT ZONE, AND BY
AMENDING ARTICLE 7, SECTION 7.1.2.5, ENTITLED "WAIVER," TO
LIST THE NEW WAIVER; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE;
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo
ABSENT:
Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.19, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Chair Hardemon: Can we read PZ9 -- let me see -- PZ.19 into the record, please?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Commissioner Carollo: Move.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved; seconded by the Chair. Any further
discussion regarding PZ.19? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
PZ.20
ORDINANCE Second Reading
3108
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of
ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
Planning
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, MORE SPECIFICALLY BY
"DEFINITIONS
AMENDING ARTICLE 1, SECTION 1.2, ENTITLED OF
TERMS," ARTICLE 4, TABLE 4, ENTITLED "DENSITY, INTENSITY
AND PARKING," AND ARTICLE 6, TABLE 13, ENTITLED
"SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS," TO ESTABLISH THE MINIMUM
SIZE FOR MICRO DWELLING UNITS WITHIN TRANSIT -ORIENTED
DEVELOPMENT AREAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13729
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MOTION TO:
Adopt
RESULT:
ADOPTED
MOVER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo
ABSENT:
Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.20, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Chair Hardemon: PZ.20, please read it into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Vice Chair Russell: I'll make the motion, and I have some discussion.
Chair Hardemon: It's been properly moved, and seconded by the Chair.
Recognizing the Vice Chairman for discussion.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. On first reading, we brought up the concept that
this, although intended to improve affordability, could have the unintended
consequence of raising the square foot price overall throughout the City, and we
were looking for Planning & Zoning to bring forth ideas with regard to affordability,
to bring an element of that, and there have been some very good ideas that have hit
the floor already, and they're not quite there yet, and I want to workshop them, but I
don't want to slow this down, so I'd like us to keep talking about an amendment to
this down the road, a change to the ordinance that would help with affordability.
There was one idea that -- This allows units to be smaller but doesn't give them
additional density, per se, so that if they were to bonus on density that that density
would be tied to affordability, and this could create a lot of affordable units very
quickly, without restricting the developer's ability to create the units. So I'll move
the item at this time, but I want it to be known that I will be continuing to workshop
the affordable element of the micro unit ordinance, and look forward to bringing
something back soon to add to it.
Chair Hardemon: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion,
say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
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PZ.21
ORDINANCE Second Reading
1034
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS
Planning
AMENDED, THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
AYES:
("MCNP") OF THE CITY OF MIAMI ("CITY"), BY AMENDING, ADDING,
ABSENT:
AND DELETING GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S MCNP AS REQUIRED
BY FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE RULE 73C-49 AND SECTION
163.3191, FLORIDA STATUTES, ENTITLED "EVALUATION AND
APPRAISAL OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN", TO INCORPORATE
NECESSARY AMENDMENTS REFLECTING CHANGES IN STATE
REQUIREMENTS AND UPDATING THE ELEMENT BASED ON
CHANGES IN LOCAL CONDITIONS SINCE THE LAST UPDATE
BASED ON THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT IN 2005;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR
TRANSMITTAL TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: 13730
MOTION TO:
Adopt with Modification(s)
RESULT:
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER:
Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo
ABSENT:
Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 21, please read into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Chair Hardemon: Is there a motion to approve?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Mr. Chair, briefly please?
Chair Hardemon: Please.
Mr. Garcia: I have a small amendment to introduce for this particular item. As you
know and as you have been briefed, this is an overhaul, the Transportation Element
of the Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan. It stands as is, and we're very proud of
it, but there is, upon consultation with our consultants, one policy that we would like
to amend It is now a somewhat highly technical, convoluted verbiage that includes
15 lines; we would like to reduce it to the following five lines. If you'll bear with me
for a moment, I'll read them quickly into the record. This is Policy TR -- for
"Transportation" -- 1.3.3, and we would like to strike the present language that you
have in your ordinance and, instead, have it read as follows: "The City will require
a traffic statement documenting the trip generation, site access, and
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) diagram for developments and redevelopments that generate
20 or more peak -hour trips based on the latest version of the ITE (Institute of
Transportation Engineers) Trip Generation Manual. Following review of the traffic
statement, the City reserves the right to require a more in-depth traffic impact
analysis based on location, project intensity, and existing traffic level of service. "
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Chair Hardemon: Now is there a motion to approve with that amendment that's
been stated on the record?
Vice Chair Russell: I think I heard a motion over here.
Chair Hardemon: Yeah? Still a motion?
Commissioner Carollo: Still a motion.
Chair Hardemon: All right, we have a motion by Commissioner Carollo; second by
the Chairman. All in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Mr. Garcia: Thankyou.
PZ.22
ORDINANCE First Reading
3277
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE RANSOM EVERGLADES
Planning
SCHOOL UPPER CAMPUS SPECIAL AREA PLAN ("SAP") FOR THE
PROPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3552, 3575, 3695, AND
3575 MAIN HIGHWAY AND 3171, 3173, 3175, AND 3183 ROYAL
ROAD, MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY
GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3551 MAIN HIGHWAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AS MORE PARTICULARITY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A";
SPECIFICALLY PROPOSING A) THE ADDITION OF THE PROPERTY
KNOWN AS "LA BRISA" THAT WILL INCREASE THE LOT AREA OF
THE SAP BY APPROXIMATELY 302,527 SQUARE FEET (6.945
ACRES) PROVIDING A TOTAL LOT AREA OF 801,319 SQUARE
FEET; B) AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM STUDENT ENROLLMENT
BY SIXTY-SEVEN (67) STUDENTS FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN
HUNDRED TWENTY-SIX (726) STUDENTS; C) AN INCREASE IN THE
NUMBER OF STAFF FROM ONE HUNDRED FORTY (140) TO ONE
HUNDRED SIXTY (160); AND D) AN INCREASE IN THE SURFACE
PARKING LOT BY THIRTY-ONE (31) SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF
TWO HUNDRED FORTY-ONE (241) SPACES; MAKING FINDINGS OF
FACT; STATING CONCLUSIONS OF LAW; PROVIDING FOR
BINDING EFFECT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING
MOVER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.22, please see
"Public Comment Period for Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Chair Hardemon: PZ.22, please read into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
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Chair Hardemon: Before we go on, who's here representing the school; not the
attorney, but is there anyone here from school, like the head of the school?
Amy Huber: Yes. The head of the school, Penny Townsend, is here, as well as the
chairman of the board of trustees, Rudy Touzet.
Chair Hardemon: Okay. So the number of teachers that you're moving from and to,
have you all -- how -- I guess over what time period do you all plan to meet that
number, going from approximately -- what you say? -- 100 teachers to --?
Ms. Huber: A hundred and twenty, approximately.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Ms. Huber: So -- First of all, Amy Huber, with the law firm of Shubin and Bass,
joined by John Shubin, 46 Southwest 1st Street, and our entire team is here. With the
late our and the long agenda still before you, I just want to start by saying we've had
favorable approvals at all of the lower boards. We're in favor of the --
Chair Hardemon: Get to the question.
Ms. Huber: -- conditions before you. So the application allows the addition of 67
students over the next 30 years; that will be gradual. Our original SAP (Special
Area Plan) that was approved in 2014, we're just in the SAP permitprocess now for
the STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) building, as well as
the loop. So the addition of students is not immediate; it will be very gradual over
the next -- and as new students come in, then staff will be added accordingly.
Chair Hardemon: So then this approval is only an incremental increase in the
number of students. The way that I heard it earlier, it sounded like a more -- a
larger -- it sounded like a larger number.
Ms. Huber: We have the approval for up to 662 students now, and we're only at, I
think, 610 students currently, and this would allow us to go from 660 to 710.
Chair Hardemon: It's awesome that they can afford it.
Vice Chair Russell: It's a -- yes, it was a significantproperty which could otherwise
be developed much -- with much more density. The school is -- Let me start with a
disclaimer at least, that I don't have a conflict, but I was a paid pole vaulting coach
at Ransom a few years ago; no longer so, but I'm very familiar --
Unidentified Speaker: They fire you.
Vice Chair Russell: Yes, they fired me for not jumping high enough.
Commissioner Reyes: No money (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Russell: Exactly. So I am very familiar with the campus, as well as the
programs and their participation within the community. No, certainly, this is not a
very intense use of an expansion of an SAP. SAPS have become a bit of a bad word
within the development world of Miami. I think this is a very good example of non -
abuse of SAP, but actual use of the SAP for its flexibility within zoning; not within its
maximization to every corner of every capacity. And also, I believe the -- if the
applicant's willing to discuss some of the programming that they're looking to offer
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with the community. Some of the things that they're doing historically on the site, I
think it adds to it. And I'll be glad to make the motion when they're done.
Commissioner Reyes: I'll second it.
Ms. Huber: So you want me to skip the presentation and just go straight to the
public benefits, yes?
Vice Chair Russell: Unless someone has -- because I believe there had been
briefings. So if there are any specific questions anyone has about the --
Chair Hardemon: Like I said, get to the question.
Vice Chair Russell: Yeah.
Ms. Huber: I just want to be sure. I'm happy to do that. So, as Commissioner
Russell discussed earlier, we've had a huge outreach within the community. We do
blessings, and a backpack at Tucker Elementary. The Aquatic Center is used
routinely by various groups. We have partnerships with other public schools that
use our facilities; we use theirs and maintain them. We annually give around $5
million in scholarship money. With our public benefit statement, we are committed
to adding one additional scholarship for each of your districts, so we will work with
community leadership within each of those districts to try to find students to come to
Ransom. Interestingly enough, we already have students from each of your districts
within the school, but this is really to continue and promote that outreach to find
more students from each district within the City of Miami.
Chair Hardemon: And I --
Vice Chair Russell: One question. Go ahead.
Chair Hardemon: -- I'll tell you, I think everyone from Ransom probably knows my
history with the school. So I was a member of the first class of the exchange
program that you had between Ransom Everglades and Miami Northwestern Senior
High School. And I was born and raised in District 5. So just the thought that
someone -- and I want to find the video from I guess our -- like our closing
ceremony, and I'll make sure I give it to you, if I can find that video of when we
made a presentation to the school. But just the thought that someone from a similar
background as me will have the opportunity to attend the school and not have to
drive a Ferrari to be able to do it is -- I think it's exciting, and to see each of the
districts have that same opportunity, because you all have students just like me. It's
an incredible opportunity, so I just want to say thank you for that.
Ms. Huber: Of course.
Vice Chair Russell: Five million in scholarships is tremendous, but that's something
that you all already do out of the goodness of your heart. What new -- I believe
there's a new scholarship package that was put together --
Ms. Huber: That's what these --
Chair Hardemon: -- that Milton Vickers had spoken about. Could you speak to that
just a moment?
Ms. Huber: Those are the five new scholarships.
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Vice Chair Russell: Five new scholarships. And could you explain how those work?
Are they -- is that five people, or is it following them from 6 through 12? How does
it work exactly?
Ms. Huber: So Ransom -- this application is only for the upper school, but this
portion of our public benefits actually will start at middle school level, so -- because
that's when students typically come into Ransom, is in 6th grade. So there will be
five new scholarships given every year and we'll follow those students through
graduation.
Vice Chair Russell: Graduation. Thank you. That was what I was interested in
understanding.
Chair Hardemon: So potentially, at one given time, you could have from one district
eight -- say, for instance, eight different scholarship recipients; is that how I
understood that to be?
Ms. Huber: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: In other words, it's one per year to a different student, and
you carry them through the term until they graduate.
Penny Townsend: Yes. So each year we'll identify five new students to start in 6th
grade, and that will carry them, and then the next year we'll -- and so it'll just keep
building.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: Want to make sure we're on the same page. Yeah.
Vice Chair Russell: How many times? I'm sorry. That threw me a little bit. How
many times? So each year there's five.
Ms. Townsend: Mm-hmm.
Vice Chair Russell: For how many times would that --? Just so I understand.
Commissioner Reyes: Every year.
Ms. Townsend: Forever. For the next 30 years, as -- go ahead. Sorry. No. They
may -- it depends when the entry point is. They may not all come in 6th grade; we
may find some for the 9th grade. But there is one, very special one, that Mr. Vickers
knows about, and that's the Archie McNealy Scholarship, and that will be a child
who starts in the 6th grade and goes right through for seven years --
Vice Chair Russell: Understood.
Ms. Townsend: -- in memory of Archie McNealy, who was a student at Ransom
Everglades, who died in 2013 I believe, and Mr. Vickers knows that story, but it's a
very heartwarming story, and how the Ransom families gathered around him when
he was very ill and really took him in while he was at Ransom Everglades, and then
when he became ill.
Chair Hardemon: And what's your name for the record, ma'am?
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Ms. Townsend: I am Penny Townsend. I'm the head of Ransom Everglades. Its
wonderful to meet you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
Ms. Townsend: And we still have that exchange, but it's with Booker T. Washington.
Chair Hardemon: Its with Booker T. Washington.
Ms. Townsend: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: I know you --
Ms. Townsend: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: --dumped Miami Northwestern Senior High School.
Ms. Townsend: And that's in February, so maybe you can come back and speak to
the kids about it.
Vice Chair Russell: Mr. Chairman and fellow Commissioners, this project is not
without some challenge or detractors. The neighbors to the north side have had
concerns, and Ransom has been very gracious to be at the table and discuss these
with them, and some of those have to do with the intensity that might be created by a
school now moving into what was a single-family residence, next to all of their
abutting homes, and some of those concerns had to do with the buffer; if a buffer
could be built between -- respecting the trees and foliage that are all there, and I
believe Ransom is working with them on that, and it also had to do with the parking
and lights, and traffic is certainly an issue. I believe there's been a change to the
flow now and -- on Main Highway traffic has been a tremendous issue, and the
schools have a big part to do with that; that the current school property will now
only be for drop-off, and this new property will only be for parking; is that correct?
And that's meant to really help the flow of the area; is that -- do I understand that
correctly?
Chair Hardemon: Can you speak directly into the microphone?
Ms. Huber: So currently, if you enter the school, everyone comes into the same
entrance point, whether you're a teacher, a student, or you're being dropped off. So
what this does, it creates a new drop-off loop for students. This will become faculty
parking, because they come in first in the morning, and then this will now become
student parking, so it segregates that. So we get more cars off of Main Highway
faster, and it increases onsite stacking by 76 percent. So we have a lot more ability
to bring them off, keep them onsite, and then have everyone park or drop off that
way.
Vice Chair Russell: I received a letter today from the attorney representing the
neighbors, and they mentioned that they were in support of first reading; that they
weren't going to come tonight, but that they do hope to remain at the table with any
remaining issues between first and second reading. And so, I thank you for working
together with them. So my motion stands.
Chair Hardemon: So it has -- well, I want the record to reflect there is a motion --
Commissioner Reyes: And I second it.
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Chair Hardemon: -- and it was second by Commissioner Reyes, okay. Any further
discussion on the motion on the floor? Hearing none, all in favor of the item, say
"aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
PZ.23 ORDINANCE First Reading
3276 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO A
Planning PREVIOUSLY -APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT,
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 163, FLORIDA STATUTES, BETWEEN
RANSOM EVERGLADES SCHOOL, INC. AND THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, EXPANDING THE BOUNDARIES TO THE NORTH BY
ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT
3551 MAIN HIGHWAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA TO THE PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED RANSOM EVERGLADES SCHOOL UPPER CAMPUS
SPECIAL AREA PLAN ("SAP") GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3552, 3575,
3695, AND 3575 MAIN HIGHWAY AND 3171, 3173, 3175, AND 3183
ROYAL ROAD, MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR THE PURPOSE OF
REDEVELOPMENT OF SUCH LAND FOR EDUCATIONAL USE AS
AUTHORIZED BY THE RANSOM EVERGLADES SCHOOL UPPER
CAMPUS SPECIAL AREA PLAN ("SAP"); THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS PROVIDE FOR: A) THE ADDITION OF THE
PROPERTY KNOWN AS "LA BRISA" THEREBY INCREASING THE
LOT AREA OF THE RANSOM SCHOOL UPPER CAMPUS BY
APPROXIMATELY 302,527 SQUARE FEET (6.945 ACRES)
PROVIDING A TOTAL LOT AREA OF 801,319 SQUARE FEET (18.40 ±
ACRES); B) THE INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM STUDENT
ENROLLMENT BY SIXTY-SEVEN (67) STUDENTS FOR A TOTAL OF
SEVEN HUNDRED TWENTY-SIX (726) STUDENTS; C) THE
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STAFF FROM ON HUNDRED
FORTY (140) TO ONE HUNDRED SIXTY (160); AND D) THE
INCREASE IN THE SURFACE PARKING LOT BY THIRTY-ONE (31)
SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF TWO HUNDRED FORTY-ONE (241)
SPACES; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, FOR SAID PURPOSE; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO:
Pass on First Reading
RESULT:
PASSED ON FIRST READING
MOVER:
Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER:
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.23, please see
Item PZ. 22.
Chair Hardemon: PZ.23, please read into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
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Vice Chair Russell: I'll make the motion.
Commissioner Reyes: Second.
Vice Chair Russell: And I have one question that I forgot to ask earlier.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, sir.
Vice Chair Russell: Could you tell me, with regard to the preservation of structures
on the lot is -- what's the historic status of the structures that are there, and what's
going to be preserved?
Amy Huber: On La Brisa?
Vice Chair Russell: Yes.
Ms. Huber: So you have requested that the cottage be preserved; and so, we have an
alternative plan that's been submitted and approved by staff. So if you're unable to
find a not-for-profit to take and repurpose the cottage, it will remain on campus, and
we've redesigned the parking in that area so that it'll stay. And then the main
portion of the structure --
Chair Hardemon: Speak into the microphone.
Ms. Huber: -- which is this piece here, is also being preserved.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. Motion stands.
Chair Hardemon: Any further questions? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion,
say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes. Congratulations.
Ms. Huber: Thank you very much. Have a good night.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much.
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PZ.24
RESOLUTION
3257
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVING WITH
Department of
CONDITIONS AN EXCEPTION PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 4, TABLE 3
Planning
OF ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, AND CHAPTER 4 OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, TO ALLOW
A SUPPER CLUB IN A PARCEL WITH SPLIT ZONING (76-8-0,"
URBAN CORE TRANSECT ZONE AND 73-0," SUB -URBAN
TRANSECT ZONE) FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 2300 NORTHWEST 36 STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: R-17-0624
MOTION TO: Adopt
RESULT: ADOPTED
MOVER: Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner
SECONDER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For additional minutes referencing Item PZ.24, please see
"Part B: PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s) " and "Public Comment Period for
Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Gort, do you have a motion --
Penny Townsend: Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: -- for PZ.24?
Commissioner Gort: PZ.20 -- the -- they have a motion to approve, but I wanted to
make sure that -- there's a lot of conditions that they have to comply with, and they
have to come with the landscaping. I know they've been working very close with the
NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team) supervisor of that area and with the
commander of that area, and we have a lot of the regulation that we asking; they
have to keep up with landscaping and so on. And they also come up with the -- a
plan for the parking and plan for the traffic and crowd control, and so on.
Chair Hardemon: So those are the conditions that -- that's the conditional approval
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Hardemon: -- if you will, right?
Commissioner Reyes: Make a motion?
Chair Hardemon: Okay. So I'll take that as a motion to approve --
Commissioner Reyes: I second it.
Chair Hardemon: --seconded by Commissioner Reyes.
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Vice Chair Russell: This is PZ (Planning & Zoning)?
Chair Hardemon: PZ.24.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you.
Unidentified Speaker: IfI may, through the Chair?
Chair Hardemon: Any further discussion on the item?
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Sir, for clarification purposes, is
that approval with conditions, as presented?
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Seeing no further questions, all in favor, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Unidentified Speaker: Thankyou all. Have a very Merry Christmas.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Is that an amended resolution? No.
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): It's the conditions as they were presented in the
package.
Chair Hardemon: Correct.
Mr. Hannon: Thank you.
Vice Chair Russell: We're almost there.
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PZ.25 RESOLUTION
3181 A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS AN EXCEPTION
Planning PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 4, TABLE 3 OF ORDINANCE NO. 13114,
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, AND CHAPTER 4 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, TO ALLOW A BAR IN A GENERAL
URBAN TRANSECT ZONE (T4 -L) FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 5300 NORTHWEST 2 AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A";
MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.25 was deferred to the February 22, 2018, Planning
and Zoning Commission Meeting.
For minutes referencing Item PZ.25, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
Zoning Item (s). "
PZ.26
ORDINANCE First Reading
3186
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING THE
Department of
ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY
"T6
Planning
CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM -24A -O,"
"T6
URBAN CORE TRANSECT ZONE - A- OPEN, TO -24B -O,"
URBAN CORE TRANSECT ZONE - B - OPEN, FOR
APPROXIMATELY .56 ACRES (24,700 SQUARE FEET) OF REAL
PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1441, 1445, AND 1455
NORTH MIAMI AVENUE;, 1412, 1418, 1428, AND 1432 NORTHEAST
MIAMI COURT, AND 25 AND 31 NORTHEAST 14 STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A";
MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading with Modification(s)
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER: Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: Madam City Attorney, read into the record PZ. 26.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
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Chair Hardemon: Going to recognize Commissioner Russell for discussion.
Vice Chair Russell: Yes. Thank you very much. This is -- in the Omni District,
we've been really working on T6-24, and really trying to maximize it for
affordability. We've been doing it on a case-by-case basis up to now, but I really
look forward to working with Francisco in doing a blanket change to T6 -24B to
make sure that it creates affordability. Now, in the iterations up to now, we've been
looking at rental properties, and each developer that's getting this entitlement has
proffered 15 percent of the units that they create be affordable, within a spectrum.
Iris Escarra: 14.
Vice Chair Russell: 14, I'm sorry. Thank you. This is the first one we've
encountered in that area that is actually going to be more for condo, more for sale
than rental; and so, we really had to look at how that changes the affordability ratio;
and so, we worked with the developer, and they've proffered a 10 percent
affordability within the entitlement; is that correct, Iris?
Ms. Escarra: Correct. What we've proffered is a covenant that provides that if we
go with a condo model for the building that we're going to do 10 percent of our units
for workforce housing. That means, we cannot sell them for more than 240,000
under today's median income. In the event that we do a rental building, because
we're figuring out the market, we're going to do 14 percent, which is consistent with
the other buildings, and it's all going to be integrated into the project. And this is a -
- this particular project on 14th Street is proposed at 573 units.
Vice Chair Russell: And could you walk through the logic of why a sale of a unit
would only financially yield a 10 percent versus the 15 percent in the rental world?
Why is it more expensive for you to do it on the sale basis?
Ms. Escarra: Correct. So what happens with the sale is when we sell it at the
240,000, the developer is taking the hit on the entire volume that he could have sold
that unit, so he could have sold that unit at an average of 375,000. So that discount
is given right at the beginning, and then that unit is forever under the workforce
housing, because there's a covenant that runs with that. With the rental, it's spread
out over the amortization of the project, so they're renting the unit for less. So let's
say the initial year, the developer loses 2, $300 on what he would have otherwise
charged, and over time, you know, that goes adding up. So that's why there's a
lower percentage if we do condo, because it's an immediate reduction in the
valuation versus a rental; they're giving more units, but it's a longer period of time.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. This is an area of town which you all will become
very familiar with, if you're not already, as you join the Board of the Omni CRA
(Community Redevelopment Agency), and here we have a -- not a blank slate, but
without encroaching on single-family residences, we have an area here where we
can really work on the zoning to create affordability. I'd like to really lock that into
our Zoning Code instead of doing it on a case-by-case basis so we can really
encourage development for affordability here. And if we don't have that formula just
right yet, I'm willing to workshop it with fellow Commissioners, because the whole
concept here is to encourage development and encourage affordability in a --
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Vice Chair Russell: -- new part of town, which is not quite on the water, but it's near
enough to downtown that it can be very attractive. We can really make a dent in the
affordability profile of the City in this area.
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Commissioner Gort: Yeah. The main thing is the mixed use. When you have the
mixed use, it works very well.
Commissioner Reyes: You mean the main -- mixed use into -- including the
affordability into the development? Wouldn't it work better if we get the funds and
then we build affordable housing, instead of forcing the developer into incorporating
a set of affordable units in their own buildings?
Chair Hardemon: I like the --
Commissioner Reyes: I don't know, but in my opinion, that's a conversation that I
think we should have.
Vice Chair Russell: Give them the option, sometimes.
Chair Hardemon: Yeah.
Commissioner Reyes: You see --
Chair Hardemon: I think both can work. I like the idea --
Commissioner Reyes: Yeah, both can work.
Chair Hardemon: -- of having workforce housing in our -- in buildings that would
only be accessible to those who had lots of money. There's an entity that's being -- a
building that's being built right now that has an -- I guess, for lack of better words,
ectoskeleton that is a world-renowned artist or world -renown --
Ms. Escarra: Zahahadi.
Vice Chair Russell: Zahahadi.
Chair Hardemon: Yes. -- who passed away, and none of you combined can buy into
that business.
Ms. Escarra: "Us. " None of "us. "
Commissioner Reyes: Come (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Chair Hardemon: I know who I am; none of you.
Commissioner Reyes: I'm talking about efficiency; not about a social thing, but I'm
talking about efficiency. Which one will be more efficient if --for us, and where we
can have the biggest bang for the buck?
Chair Hardemon: Well, I know that -- and if they're being built, it's coming --
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Chair Hardemon: -- and --
Commissioner Reyes: I don't know.
Chair Hardemon: -- you can have affordable (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Reyes: It's something that we can --
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Chair Hardemon: But I think both work.
Vice Chair Russell: There is a blend, and I would just like to chime in on that. The
developer certainly would love to just pay into a fund and let us develop offsite;
that's the most convenient for them, but I really want to see our city integrate more.
I really believe, you know, we're a step short of inclusionary zoning at the moment,
but we're starting to talk about things like that where we really want to see not only
mixed use, but mixed income within developments, and where done correctly, it can
blend beautifully, where you don't feel -- Otherwise, we're creating areas of poverty.
Commissioner Reyes: No, it doesn't mean that. It means we can build another
building next to them, you know. I mean, it's --
Chair Hardemon: Won't be able to afford it. I don't think you'll be able to afford it,
but --
Commissioner Carollo: Where is that exactly in the map?
Ms. Escarra: On this particular map, it's the two yellow sites. So just to give you an
orientation --
Vice Chair Russell: West of the Arsht.
Ms. Escarra: -- over here is the PAC (Performing Arts Center).
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Ms. Escarra: Right? This is Biscayne Boulevard over here. This is the City
cemetery. So this is over off of 2nd Avenue. There's two sites. One of them abuts
the fire station, the Omni's office, the fire station; and the other one is off of 17th
Street, just north of Canvass, a building that's currently under construction.
Vice Chair Russell: What are the pink squares, Iris?
Ms. Escarra: Those were the previous T6-24Bs that this Commission approved.
That's the Mellows developed.
Vice Chair Russell: So, within the last year, those three have been approved, and
they're going up incredibly fast. How many units of affordability have we created in
those through this mechanism?
Ms. Escarra: Within these three, 251 units; already, about 92 are going online in
the first building, which is Square Station. So just to let you know, we start here with
a covenant and a commitment. We go through an extensive process by the time
we're actually building. We have to go through Community Development. There's
another covenant that gets restricted, where we assign the specific units; there are
special caps. When people go to rent, there's a mechanism where we have to go to
Community Development. They have to verb that the tenants that are coming in
qualify not only for the income, that they have to be a meet a certain income, but the
rents, also.
Vice Chair Russell: So that's already two --
Commissioner Reyes: But define -- could you please define "affordability"? How
much are you charging per month?
Vice Chair Russell: These are workforce, so they're not truly affordable.
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Ms. Escarra: These are --
Commissioner Reyes: Okay, but that's different than affordable.
Vice Chair Russell: These are at the higher end (UNINTELLIGIBLE) affordability.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: But I want to make a very important statement. Workforce
housing is affordable housing for many people.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: And you have young professionals that need a place --
Commissioner Reyes: Yes, yes, yes.
Chair Hardemon: -- people that work for our City that are priced out of the low-
income housing, and they're certainly priced out of the downtown or Brickell or any
of those other areas, and they're not ready to purchase housing in our communities -
Commissioner Reyes: Yeah. I do understand that, but --
Chair Hardemon: -- and so, they need a place.
Commissioner Reyes: But, you see, what will be the workforce housing -- how much
will it be if they going to rent it?
Ms. Escarra: 1,832.
Commissioner Reyes: 1,880.
Ms. Escarra: For the one bedroom.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Ms. Escarra: And then it goes up (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Reyes: That is workforce, but we need -- we are in dire need of rent
that the very -- the -- much lower than that.
Commissioner Carollo: For a one bedroom?
Chair Hardemon: That's workforce, 1,800?
Commissioner Reyes: One bedroom.
Ms. Escarra: 1,832.
Commissioner Reyes: I mean, that's a little steep.
Chair Hardemon: Workforce?
Ms. Escarra: That's -- I believe that's workforce --
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Commissioner Reyes: No.
Ms. Escarra: -- and that is at -- and then it depends on how many people live in the
household and how many --
Vice Chair Russell: Commissioner Carollo's not going to count that toward his
thousand units.
Chair Hardemon: Yeah. I don't know (UNINTELLIGIBLE). 2,200 sounded more
like workforce.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) more affordable, you see.
Ms. Escarra: Well, that's on the rental side. On the sale side, it's 240, 000, and then
it starts going up.
Commissioner Gort: Gentlemen?
Commissioner Carollo: Well, let me ask this on the sale side: The 240,000, what
deed -- what restrictions are you going to have on the deeds?
Ms. Escarra: It runs with the deed of the property, meaning the units have a deed
restriction that it always has to be for a qualified. So, if that persons moves in and
owns it, and then in 10 years they go to sell it, they actually have to go back to the
City qualified to be able to let -- the buyer who's buying that unit also qualifies for
that -- you have to have a certain income. You got to turn in your -- either W2s, your
income tax returns.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what
can they sell it for? Is there a deed restriction on what they could sell it for?
Ms. Escarra: Well, what's going to happen is the deed restriction says you can't sell
it for over a certain percentage of the median income. So every year HUD
(Department of Housing and Urban Development) gives to Community Development
at the City and Miami -Dade County what the median income is, and I -- I mean, I'm
answering for you -- what the median income is, and then those percentages turn out
to a certain number. Like last year, the unit could have been sold -- I think it was for
like 237 -something. This year the median income went up a little, so the price went
up to 240.
Chair Hardemon: The problem is that in Miami -Dade County, certain people's
income are increasing in areas that (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Chair Hardemon: -- so (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Ms. Escarra: It goes up a little bit every year.
Chair Hardemon: I'll say this: The workforce housing -- there's a spectrum.
There's a bottom number. There's a --
Vice Chair Russell: ELI (extremely low income).
Commissioner Reyes: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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Chair Hardemon: I'm not saying the ELI. I'm saying for workforce housing. I'm
sure there's -- it's not just one number. Workforce housing is a spectrum.
Ms. Escarra: I gave you the highest number.
Chair Hardemon: You're using the highest number.
Ms. Escarra: Right. I gave you --
Chair Hardemon: So, if you could, in this, let's get a -- you know, I don't want
everything in the higher number, you know, because I look at --
Ms. Escarra: I think it's --
Chair Hardemon: For people who are in the workforce, if you have student loans --
Ms. Escarra: Right.
Chair Hardemon: -- if you have -- and also now -- I mean, if you're paying $1,800 a
month to live in a space, you don't have very much more money that you're spending
on anything else; and so, by that, I'm just saying that let's not let them trick us by
having everyone at the higher end of the -- of that spectrum.
Ms. Escarra: Well, I gave you the highest number, because I didn't want to give you
the lowest number, and then you're thinking, "Oh, wow, that number's" -- I would
give you what the highest number could be because that --
Commissioner Carollo: You said that if you give homes that are going to be sold,
it's 10 percent that you're giving us.
Ms. Escarra: No. I'm sorry?
Commissioner Carollo: You said 10 percent --
Ms. Escarra: 10 percent of the overall units of each building. So in this project --
Commissioner Carollo: But 10 percent if they're sold?
Ms. Escarra: Correct; 10 percent if they're sold, and 14 percent if it's a rental
building.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. So we got 573 units, right?
Ms. Escarra: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. 10 percent of that --
Ms. Escarra: Fifty-seven.
Commissioner Carollo: -- is 57.3. So let's say 57 instead of 58. The difference
between what you're saying you could sell them for is -- 375 to 240 -- is 135, right?
Ms. Escarra: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: I'd rather take the cash and put it in a money bag through a
housing authority or for the future housing authority, and at least I know that we're
going to end up giving truly accessible workforce housing, whatever you want to call
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it, and much cheaper than anything I've heard here. And the deed restriction is
going to guarantee, the way that I envision it, that it's always going to be accessible
workforce housing.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: And that -- The way she's describing how they're going to
keep it, it's not going to work, because what the Chairman mentioned, and more. So
the way that you need to put this deed restriction is based on the median market rate
price of places, and then it will be the housing authority that each year will either
raise it or lower it by that amount so that we are always guaranteed that that will
stay as workforce -accessible housing. And whoever sells it has got to sell it through
the housing authority, within those limits, so there can't be any games or monies
given under the table, or anything else, and that's the best way that we could
guarantee that into the future; otherwise, we're shooting ourselves in the foot as we
go forward.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Carollo, let me try to grab some understanding of
what you 're saying. Are you saying don't use the rental; only use the 10 percent --
Commissioner Carollo: Well --
Chair Hardemon: --for that building? Or are you saying, create the --
Commissioner Carollo: No.
Chair Hardemon: --fund and spend the money elsewhere?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. I'm saying, if we're going to take the housing units
that people are going to buy, we're better off taking the money, the difference, you
know, that I'm figuring out here, but the truth is that we got to figure out how much
more are they really making to see if that 10 percent that we're getting is really a
good deal or not.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: I mean --
Chair Hardemon: No, I understand. The only -- the really big issue that I have is
that if we don't create units of affordability in these projects on that land, it won't be
affordable. The Canvass is probably not affordable.
Ms. Escarra: It's market.
Chair Hardemon: And market is not affordable. The --
Ms. Escarra: Filling station.
Chair Hardemon: -- there's a -- there's some other buildings that have been there
for some time.
Ms. Escarra: Filling station and the park (UNINTELLIGIBLE) market.
Chair Hardemon: That station is not affordable. The only affordable housing that
you have is further to the west, and it's in Overtown, and, you know, we've created
affordable housing there, and you have units that are owned by people that are
affordable today. And so, you know, that's really my fear.
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Commissioner Reyes: I have just a little example. Will you say that a person that
has disposable income -- when I said, "disposable income, " it's take-home pay. It
takes $3, 000 a month, a person that graduated and start up the first job and making
40 -some thousand dollars a year and is taking home $3, 000 a month. If that person
is paying $1,800, he's paying 65 percent of his salary.
Vice Chair Russell: Yeah.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. It's just no way --
Commissioner Reyes: I mean that -- And let's say that that person is taking home
$4, 000 a month; and if he's paying $1,800, he's taking 45 cents [sic] of his salary.
Commissioner Carollo: To give you an example of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) real
quickly.
Commissioner Reyes: I mean, that's my --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. What I'm envisioning through a housing authority,
buying land -- not even going through a lot of the land that we have --
Commissioner Gort: We have.
Commissioner Carollo: -- but it's going to take a while before we use it all up. We
go and buy land, obviously, in some districts it'll be cheaper and some a little higher.
But it's going to be somewhere in the average between a 150,000 to 175,000 for a
thousand square foot, two good-sized bedrooms, two bath, maybe even two and a
half bath, with a dining room, living room that's a decent size, and kitchen that's an
average size. We could build those with -- obviously, not making any profit --just
whatever the cost is to us --for -- and buy land for between 150, 175,000. The trick
to it is that since we control the land, we're going to give special zoning that only
one entity could have it in all of the City of Miami, the housing authority. And that's
special zoning is going to be to build true accessible housing in Miami. Now,
developers that want to share in, they're welcome. We'll let them charge a little
higher, because we know they got to make a profit, but they got to do it through the
housing authority. And we can reach those price limits as long as, you know, we're
smart where we buy, and then we can upgrade the zoning somewhat, as we need it,
to make those numbers work.
Commissioner Reyes: Let me make a suggestion, because we're holding these
people here.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Reyes: Let's have a workshop, as Commissioner Russell had
suggested had requested, a sunshine -- I mean, a meeting --
Vice Chair Russell: I'd love to learn more about this.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay. -- so we can talk about this and we can -- I mean, that
is a great suggestion, and that's a great thing. And I think we -- all of us, we have
ideas that we can implement, but right now, let's vote on this.
Ms. Escarra: And if I can just add one more point. We're not increasing the
allowable density; meaning, the allowed density today is the allowed density
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tomorrow after the rezoning. The only thing we're asking for is to be able to build
bigger units, more square footage.
Chair Hardemon: The -- there are certainly areas that I can think of within my
district that would benefit from some sort of trust -- housing trust model that you've
described. I don't necessarily want to do that to the detriment of inclusionary
zoning. I think inclusionary zoning is important; if not, we will have pockets of
poverty, and I don't want to see that in the City of Miami. But I will say this about
this facility here: We need to guarantee that some of these rents that are within the
workforce housing range --
Ms. Escarra: It's 90 percent to 140 percent of the median income.
Chair Hardemon: Right. I want to ensure that many of them are at 90 percent, is
what I'm saying to you.
Commissioner Carollo: Can -- If you could all humor me for another minute.
They've offered 10 percent of 573 units to be workforce housing. The statement that
she made on the record is that these are units that they plan on selling for 375,000;
and that these units, the 10 percent that they're giving us, is going to be worth
approximately 240, 000. That's the amount they're giving it to us for; meaning that
they're giving it to us for 135,000 less than they're going to sell them per unit.
Vice Chair Russell: That's what they're leaving on the table.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. So I'd rather take the approximately $8 million, and
we could begin our housing authority fund with 8 million in the bank, and I'll
approve it tonight, and let them go forward. I won't even get into if that's a good
amount or not, for the sake of what you all said, that you wanted to let it go forward.
We'll just do it for 8 million. And maybe we made a bad deal, maybe we could have
gotten double, because they're going to make a lot more money in 573 units, but this
is what I'm trying to do -- explain to all of you, that there's a lot of money that we
could bring in right away to a housing authority that is going to add up quickly;
besides what we could go and borrow dirt cheap and be able to use to immediately
start building.
Commissioner Reyes: We can leverage.
Commissioner Carollo: And we don't have to depend on the County and the State,
and the Feds; we could do it ourselves.
Commissioner Gort: We had a housing authority before --
Commissioner Carollo: Years ago.
Commissioner Gort: -- and it worked. And let me tell you something --
Commissioner Carollo: And we gave it to the County.
Commissioner Gort: -- it can be done. We build a building, utilizing a non -for-
profit, 170 apartments, 100 affordable housing, and 70 market rate, on Southwest 1st
Street and 9th Avenue --
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- two blocks from Miami Avenue and (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Commissioner Gort: It can be done. It worked.
Commissioner Reyes: That was precisely what I was saying.
Commissioner Gort: You need the cash to leverage.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Commissioner Reyes: Yeah, we can leverage that money.
Commissioner Carollo: And basically, what we're going to be doing -- what I want
to see is true homeownership. I don't want to see people renting, because they're
throwing their money out.
Chair Hardemon: I agree with you.
Commissioner Carollo: I want true homeownership.
Chair Hardemon: I agree with you.
Commissioner Carollo: If we're giving people a home that's going to be 50 percent
or less or more -- market value, that means that any lending institution that we come
into agreements with and -- as a city, we're going to have huge leverage -- they're
not going to need a down payment. All they're going to need is a small amount for
closing costs, and that could be worked out in many ways. So all that people have to
do is qualms for the small amount that they're going to need to pay for their monthly
rent, and they're going to go in there without having to put down any money, and the
S percent, 10 percent, 20 percent that you normally have to put down; and we'll put
a deed restriction that if, for any reason, they don't pay, the City wants to be first
runner up in taking that back so we could keep it in the pot ourselves. So, look, we
have a great opportunity, I think now, by all of us working together, where we could
do for Miami a model that the rest of the country is going to want to copy and follow,
and we could take care of thousands of new homes for our residents that need it real
quick.
Chair Hardemon: Can we make tiny homes?
Commissioner Carollo: We could do that, too. We could do that, too. Hey, listen, if
need be --
Chair Hardemon: They call it "tiny homes" --
Commissioner Carollo: Commissioner --
Chair Hardemon: -- smaller homes that people can afford to move into so they can
(UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Gort: We do have a program for first-time buyers, where they can get
up to $70,000 for down payment. That authority, I think is very important to put it
together.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. I'm going to let you into a secret. I've developed --
this is -- my idea was for outside of the country, but it works here, just as well, in
single or duplex lots -- a system that once we get it approved by Dade County, we
could build homes in several days; overseas, we could do it in two days, max; here,
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it's going to be several days, maybe a few weeks, because of all the permitting and
everything else. And we could build for 25 to $30 on the square foot, which is
considerably less than the going cost, and these are buildings that will last us long, if
not longer, as anything out there. You won't be able to tell the difference of what
they're built of. They'll be 10 to 15 percent cooler in the summer than anything out
there, termite free; and by putting impact windows, they're virtually noise free,
because of the way they're built, and I'll gladly sign that off to the City. I don't want
to see a penny out of it, and you guys do with it what you want. But what I'm looking
at is to build going up, because that's the only way that we're going to make the big
difference, going up, and we have so much land that we could do that with in Miami.
And, look, on this project, if they're offering that, would your client be willing to give
the 8 million instead ofgiving us this 50 -- 758 [sic] units?
Ms. Escarra: I can't answer that, because my client was here earlier and had to
leave. So he was here, he was present. He lasted most of the day.
Commissioner Carollo: Was he the guy that was running at the door
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) parking?
Vice Chair Russell: Iris --
Commissioner Gort: When he heard the 8 million --
Vice Chair Russell: -- is that 8 million an accurate number in your estimation?
Because we were talking between rental and sale.
Ms. Escarra: I'd have to -- 57, I guess, times 135 -- I didn't do the math, but --
Commissioner Reyes: Well, at 57 at 135, it's 7,700, 000, but it was really 57.3, so to
round it off, it's 8 million.
Ms. Escarra: If Francisco lets me round up, I'll always round up, but I usually have
to round down.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, look, can you speak to your client, get him on the
phone?
Ms. Escarra: Well, this is first reading. I have to come back for second reading.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Vice Chair Russell: But it could be a substantial change between first and second if
we do this.
Ms. Escarra: Correct. And one of the -- I can tell you on the valuation, that will be
a potential issue; I'd have to ask the client. Honestly, I have never discussed this
with him.
Commissioner Carollo: But you said on the record that you were giving it 135,000
less.
Ms. Escarra: No, right. No, that is factual. That information, I do know.
Commissioner Carollo: I made my calculations based on what you proffered.
Ms. Escarra: And that is still accurate, Commissioner. That is what I understand
from the client, as well. What happens is, is that we're building in the CRA area,
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which is an area that, for a long time, has stayed vacant. There is actually, you
know -- There's supposedly -- In the CRAB, you're always enticed to come in and
develop and redevelop and do different sort of things, and to develop in a market like
this also -- you know, there's also different impacts. I have to ask the client. I'm just
Commissioner Carollo: But regardless, you're giving that up. I mean, we'll let you
give it in installments.
Ms. Escarra: Correct, because the client is actually a believer in that inclusionary
zoning philosophy, and including that within the building.
Vice Chair Russell: Correct.
Ms. Escarra: I don't know -- it's very hard to tell a client to please give up $8
million when they're only asking for more square footage.
Vice Chair Russell: Because they --
Ms. Escarra: They're not asking for more units.
Commissioner Carollo: In fact, you're saying that he is, because he's willing to give
up those 57.3 units at 135, 000 less.
Vice Chair Russell: Mr. Chairman.
Ms. Escarra: But they're units within the building.
Vice Chair Russell: There's a difference.
Chair Hardemon: There's a difference between giving up --
Ms. Escarra: Right.
Chair Hardemon: There's -- I think there could potentially be a difference when
you're saying --
Commissioner Carollo: Not at the end of the day.
Chair Hardemon: Not at the end of the day, right. But at the beginning of the day, it
is.
Ms. Escarra: Right.
Vice Chair Russell: Well, the other difference is not just financial; he's also doing a
calculation of what he can sell there. And this is not on the water; this is quite west.
And there is -- the area isn't fully developed yet, so he may be already making a
calculation that at that workforce housing that he's proffering --
Ms. Escarra: Right.
Vice Chair Russell: -- that's actually maybe the price for that amount of units that
he'd be able to sell there; maybe either lower -level units or whatever; I don't know.
So I don't think it's just a financial calculation, but it was quite a negotiation to get
to that 10 percent, and we certainly are trying to encourage some affordability in
that area, which is a stone's throw away from the Metromover, the very first stop
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where people could live, and this could be a hub to all of downtown for young
professionals.
Ms. Escarra: Right.
Vice Chair Russell: I really like the concept of creating affordability, and we have a
trust fund, but this other concept and the land trust, who knows what -- I want to
learn more, and I really want to create as much affordability as we can. I just -- at
this point, I don't know that we're ready to make a complete change on this one as it
is, especially without the client here, because we had sort of negotiated this one to
where I think we were creating an inclusionary that was acceptable to the developer,
acceptable at least to myself as the Commissioner of the district. I don't want to pull
the rug overnight and this not be what we can pass on second reading.
Chair Hardemon: But let's -- so let's get through first reading.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: I think your idea was well -heeded, and I know we'll have a lot of
conversation moving forward about how we go about doing things the way that you
proposed it, Commissioner Carollo, and -- but also including some inclusionary
zoning in places where I think it matters. So is there a motion to approve on PZ.26?
Commissioner Carollo: There's a motion to approve for -- on first reading.
Chair Hardemon: On first reading.
Commissioner Carollo: And I hope you have along conversation with your client on
what we discussed today; see if we could come to some better terms. And, you know,
he could just agree to certain dollars that we discussed here over a certain period of
time, and, you know, he could sell that maybe for more than 375 per unit.
Chair Hardemon: So Commissioner Carollo's statement --
Commissioner Carollo: Most likely.
Ms. Escarra: Hopefully, the market comes back with a force.
Commissioner Carollo: Most likely. Well, the market is there and it's getting
stronger, so.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Carollo's statements are -- is the motion -- the
Vice Chairman --
Vice Chair Russell: Second.
Chair Hardemon: -- is the second. Any further discussion?
Barnaby Min (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chairman, that's with no modifications.
Vice Chair Russell: No modifications.
Chair Hardemon: No modifications. All in favor of the motion on the floor, say
"aye. "
Vice Chair Russell: Aye.
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Commissioner Carollo: First reading.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Excuse me, just for the record But a covenant was
submitted on the floor so the legislation is still amended.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Ms. Escarra: Correct.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Ms. Escarra: With covenant.
Chair Hardemon: That is with a covenant.
Vice Chair Russell: It is amended with a covenant --
Commissioner Reyes: Yeah.
Vice Chair Russell: -- not in a new amendment today.
Mr. Min: My apologies.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
PZ.27
ORDINANCE First Reading
3187
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Planning
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
"76
CLASSIFICATION FROM - 24A - O," URBAN CORE TRANSECT
ZONE - A - OPEN, TO "76 - 24B - O," URBAN CORE TRANSECT
ZONE - B - OPEN, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 70 NORTHEAST 17 STREET, 90 NORTHEAST 17
STREET, AND 1642 NORTHEAST 1 AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading with Modification(s)
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER: Joe Carollo, Commissioner
SECONDER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ. 27, can you read it into the record, please?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney
Barnaby Min.
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Iris Escarra: Iris Escarra for the record. This is a similar property in the same
area, but this one's only 283 units. It's a much smaller parcel.
Commissioner Carollo: How much is he giving in this?
Ms. Escarra: Same thing; 10 percent --
Commissioner Carollo: 10 percent?
Ms. Escarra: -- or 14 percent, depending on the model that they use.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, 10 percent if it's to sell and --
Ms. Escarra: You do the math really fast.
Commissioner Carollo: What --
Ms. Escarra: I don't have a calculator.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, my brother is a CPA (Certified Public Accountant). I
was the guy with the numbers -- rubbed off
Ms. Escarra: No, but Commissioner Carollo really does math really fast.
Commissioner Carollo: He was the CPA; I just have the numbers.
Chair Hardemon: A declaration of restricted covenant is included on this. Is there
a motion to approve --
Vice Chair Russell: Move it.
Chair Hardemon: -- with this declaration of--?
Commissioner Carollo: There's a motion to approve. Now, for the record -- I don't
know --
Chair Hardemon: Seconded by the Vice Chairman.
Commissioner Carollo: -- if she wants to even get that on the record now. How
much are the units going to sell for, and how much are we getting them for?
Ms. Escarra: This is the same -- it's the same model.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: All right. Seeing no --
Vice Chair Russell: But how many units?
Ms. Escarra: This one has 283.
Commissioner Carollo: 283.
Ms. Escarra: This is actually the parcels --
Vice Chair Russell: So 28.
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Ms. Escarra: --just north of Canvass. It's four lots.
Vice Chair Russell: 28 units; what's the difference?
Commissioner Carollo: Well, it's --for 28 units --
Ms. Escarra: 283, so it will be 28.
Commissioner Reyes: 28.
Ms. Escarra: and 135 thousand.
Commissioner Carollo: You got 4 million. So now we're up to 12 million.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
Commissioner Carollo: Now, all we need is just a few of these and you see it adds
up to real money. We got enough to build whatever you need in the West Grove
right now.
Vice Chair Russell: A playhouse?
Commissioner Carollo: Well, I thought your main priority was housing.
Vice Chair Russell: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Playhouse is secondary.
Chair Hardemon: Its been properly moved and seconded
Commissioner Reyes: 3.7.
Chair Hardemon: Seeing no further discussion, all in favor of the motion, say
"aye. "
Commissioner Carollo: 3.78.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): As amended.
Ms. Escarra: Thank you very much. Have a nice evening. I have a lot to talk about
this holiday.
Vice Chair Russell: We'll be talking.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
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PZ.28 ORDINANCE First Reading
3188 AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
Planning CLASSIFICATION FROM 75-L," URBAN CENTER—LIMITED, TO 76-
8-0," URBAN CORE—OPEN, FOR THE APPROXIMATELY .60 ACRES
OF REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1392
NORTHWEST 36 STREET, 1385 NORTHWEST 35 STREET, AND
1373 NORTHWEST 35 STREET MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULAR DESCRIBED IN "EXHIBIT A"; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Defer
RESULT: DEFERRED
MOVER: Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Notes for the Record. Item PZ.28 was deferred to the June 28, 2018, Planning and
Zoning Commission Meeting.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING
MOVER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER: Joe Carollo, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 29, please read into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney
Barnaby Min.
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For minutes referencing Item PZ.28, please see "Part B: PZ -Planning and
Zoning Item(s). "
PZ.29
ORDINANCE First Reading
3199
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Department of
ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE FUTURE LAND USE
Planning
MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN,
PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT PROCEDURES
SUBJECT TO SECTION 163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF 1.30±
ACRES OF REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY
2900 SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE AND 2890, 2900, 2920, 2940, AND 2960
SOUTH FEDERAL HIGHWAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA FROM "SINGLE-
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO "DUPLEX -RESIDENTIAL"; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING
MOVER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER: Joe Carollo, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 29, please read into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney
Barnaby Min.
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Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, sir.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. I'd like to congratulate the neighbors and the
developer for really coming together on this one. I know this has been heated at
times, vocal; it's been a battle, but I believe, in the end, you have a good product, a
better product that's a little less intense; a little more in line with the neighbors; still,
it accomplishes one of my main goals is to stop cars backing out onto U.S.], where
we have single-family homes on U.S.]. And so, if there's discussion needed or a
presentation needed, that's fine, but I'll make the motion to accept this with the
covenant.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved by the Vice Chairman --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Hardemon: -- seconded by Commissioner Carollo. I don't see any further
discussion, so all in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): As amended.
Chair Hardemon: PZ (Planning & Zoning) --
Mr. Min: No, the -- I'm sorry; the covenant goes with PZ --
Vice Chair Russell: Yes.
Mr. Min: -- 30, the companion.
Mr. Hannon: Okay.
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PZ.30
ORDINANCE First Reading
3200
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
Planning
NO. 13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION FROM 73-R," SUB -URBAN TRANSECT ZONE -
RESTRICTED, WITHIN THE "NCD -3," COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT, TO 73-0," SUB-
URBAN TRANSECT ZONE - OPEN, WITHIN THE "NCD -3," COCONUT
GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT, OF THE
REAL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2900 SOUTH
MIAMI AVENUE AND 2890, 2900, 2920, 2940, AND 2960 SOUTH
FEDERAL HIGHWAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A"; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
MOTION TO: Pass on First Reading with Modification(s)
RESULT: PASSED ON FIRST READING WITH MODIFICATION(S)
MOVER: Ken Russell, Vice Chair
SECONDER: Joe Carollo, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: PZ 30.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney
Barnaby Min.
Vice Chair Russell: I'll make the motion.
Chair Hardemon: And then --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Hardemon: -- that motion includes the covenant that's (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Russell: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Vice Chair Russell: Absolutely.
Chair Hardemon: Been properly moved and seconded Any further discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor of the motion, say "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: All against? Motion passes.
Chair Hardemon: What I'm going to do right now is I'll close out the Planning &
Zoning --
Unidentified Speaker: Thankyou very much.
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Chair Hardemon: -- meeting minute -- meeting, and I'm going to reopen the regular
Unidentified Speaker: Mr. Chair?
Chair Hardemon: -- meeting -- one second -- regular meeting, because there are a
few items on here that we have not yet had an opportunity to discuss and --
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Sorry; just bear with its for a moment as we kind of
switch the recording.
Chair Hardemon: -- that'sgoing to be ourAC.1, AC.2, andAC.3.
Commissioner Carollo: What time do we finish these days, guys? I'm new.
Chair Hardemon: No. We should be done. This is a long meeting, but we're
closing this one out. And basically, what we have left -- the agenda is complete. The
only thing we have left is --
Vice Chair Russell: Shade?
Chair Hardemon: -- the shade stuff, so that's up to --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: -- you all, once I bring its back to the (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Russell: I think they're pretty quick. We do need to do them, though.
PZ.31
RESOLUTION
3114
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Department of
ATTACHMENT(S), GRANTING OR DENYING THE APPEAL BY
Planning
AGAVE ACQUISITIONS, LLC, REVERSING OR AFFIRMING THE
AYES:
DECISION OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD,
THEREBY GRANTING OR DENYING WARRANT NO. 13-0033
ISSUED BY THE PLANNING ZONING DIRECTOR ON JUNE 21, 2013
TO ALLOW AN OUTDOOR DINING AREA FOR AN OUTDOOR CAFE
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2601 SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
MOTION TO:
Withdraw
RESULT:
WITHDRAWN
MOVER:
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner
SECONDER:
Keon Hardemon, Chair
AYES:
Hardemon, Russell, Gort, Carollo, Reyes
Note for the Record. For minutes referencing Item PZ. 31, please see "Part B:
PZ -Planning and Zoning Item(s). "
END OF PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM(S)
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END OF FUTURE LEGISLATION
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The meeting adjourned at 10:31 P.M.
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