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SPECIAL
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MINUTES
NOVEMBER 15, 1973
OF MEETING HELD ON
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
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1 APPOINT JOHN S. LLOYD-CITY ATTORNEY R-73-923
2 APPOINT H.D. SOUTHERN -CITY CLERK R-73-924
3 APPOINT RALPH G. ONGIE-ASSISTANT CITY CLERK R-73-925
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MINAS OF SPECIAL MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 15th day of November, 1973, the City Commission
of Miami, Florida met at its regular meeting place at City
Hall in said city in special session called by the Mayor for
the purpose of swearing in newly elected members of the City
Commission. The meeting was called to order n1 12:15 O'clock
P.M. by Mayor Maurice A. Ferre with the following members of
the Commission present: Reverend Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr.
Plummer and Commissioner Reboso.
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Johnson who then led
those present in an invocation to the flag.
THE OATH OF OFFICE WAS ADMINISTERED BY RALPH G. ONGIE, ASSIST-
ANT CITY CLERK TO NEWLY ELECTED CITY COMMISSIONERS MANOLO
REBOSO AND REVEREND THEODORE GIBSON.
Mayor Ferre: Before we proceed with anything else, and I am
sure that Father Gibson and Commissioner Reboso want to make
their statements, I have taken the liberty of getting presents
for each one of them. I might say as you open them up that
the reason, you stand here with me, Manolo. You know there
have been an awfully lot of accusations about machine quality
and there is no question about it. I want to tell the press
and everyone here that there is a machine in the City of Miami
and that machine gets worn down and it sometimes needs a lit-
tle replacement so I fugured that it would be good symbolism
that the machine get a little assistance on this day when
these gentlemen who fought the great race and won the victory
I think of all the people in Miami. Father Gibson says he
doesn't want this thing. He wants this pair. I don't know,
I think he ought to have .... I will recognize Commissioner
Reboso.
Mr. Reboso: Ladies and gentlemen, for 16 months I have serv-
ed as a Miami City Commissioner. I accept the office because
I believe in Miami as one of the finest cities in the nation,
and from that day to this I have worked hard to provide the
kind of leadership Miami would be proud of. I am completely
opposed to those who would give away City of Miami services
to Metropolitan Government. I believe that the government
closest to the people is the best kind of government. Miam-
ians from all parts of the city have expressed a concern of
giving away more and more city services and I agree with them.
Because of this, I have run my last campaign and my pledge to
the people that I will not be pressured to follow the narrow
wishes of those special interests who would turn over city
services without a proper referendum. I don't believe elect-
ed officials should rule the city. I believe they should
govern and legislate in the best interest of the citizens.
Now that I have been elected to a full four year term I prom-
ise to work harder than ever for all Miamians. Thank you
very much.
Mayor Ferre: My congratulations again. Thank you. Father
Gibson.
Reverend Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I want to take this occassion
to thank the people of Miami for the confidence they have
reposed in me. And I use that word reposed advisically.
I want to renew my promise and pledge that I will do every-
thing in my power to see that this City belongs to all of
the people of Miami, white people, black people, rich people,
poor people, iMportant people and unimportant people. And
that every vote I cast will be an honest vote and in the best
interest of all the people of the City of Miami. There can
be no doubt in, I trust, in certain peoples minds as to how
I feel about giving away my native city. As I have been
loyal to the City of Miami in the past, I trust and pray that
1 Will continue to demonstrate and show my loyalty to the
City of Miami now in the four years to come and in all the
other years. We have been accused of playing city politics
or machine politics. I am sorry for that. I only wish that
those who have made that accusation would take time out and
read the record. Certainly if you haven't if you haven't
read it I urge you to keep an eye on the records from here
on in. I again thank you, I promise and pledge to you that
what I do as far as Theodore Gibson knows, will be in the
best interest of all the people.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Father Gibson and again, all of our
congratulations. At this time I will recognize Commissioner
Plummer for a statement.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor for the record, I personally would
like to congratulate the three of you. I think that all of
this Commission is charged with a responsibility. This City
has a very fine and glorious past but the past is gone and
is something that we can only sit back and reflect good or
bad. But I hope that it is with my full wish that everyone
sitting here today will not spend too much time reflecting
the past but will look to make this a much greater and finer
city for all people that wish to call it home. I congratulate
you three. It is a pleasure and a priviledge to serve with
you to make this a bigger and better city. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: The Chair recognizes Mrs. Rose Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mayor and my fellow
Commissioners, in spite of what the press said yesterday, we
are not a divided Commission, we will be working together
harmoniously. I would like to let you know we are independ-
ent individuals and we will express ourselves accordingly.
On some issues we will coincide and on others we will not but
we will part on friendly terms, I hope and I'm sure that we
will. So with that in mind and to get on with the business
of the day I want to thank you for the opportunity of saying
a few words and to congratulate those who whave been elected
by the will of the people, and that's the way it should be.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mrs. Gordon. Now traditionally
over the past years this meeting where the new Commissioners
and the Mayor have been sworn in have been the days when we
either give our Manager a vote of confidence or we do not
and even though the Charter does not specifically say or is
confused as to what the procedures are, I think this has been
a tradition in the City of Miami and we also on this day ap-
point our City Attorney and I think it would be very much in
atune of this that somebody may want to speak the question.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if it is in accord I would be happy
to offer such a motion. I think three or four months ago when
Mr. Paul Andrews was appointed to this position it was said
at that time that maybe he needed a trial. Well it wasn't
the case, I think he has served this trial period just beau-
tifully. It has been a pleasure to work with Mr. Andrews and
I would be more than happy at this time to offer a motion at
this time to offer a motion to reaffirm the position of
City Manager to Mr, Pau' Andrews,
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion by Commissioner Plummer, there
Jai***
Mrs. Gordon: Jutst a point of order. Do motions for appoint-
ment need seconds?? I don't believe they do.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. City Attorney?
Mr. Rothstein: They would, yes, indeed.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion for a vote of confidence in
reappointment of the City Manager, Mr. Paul Andrews made by
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, is
there discussion on the item?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes. I want to reaffirm my faith and confidence
in Mr. AndreWe which I expressed three months ago when I was
the prime mover of his appointment. I am happy with the ser-
vice that he has given to the city in this"trial" period and
so are all of the people who I have come in contact with and
so are the employees of the City of Miami. I don't see how
anybody could be asked to do more than that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any further discussion? Call the
roll.
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Reverend Gibson, Mrs. Gordon
and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: (On roll call) In voting I would like to say
that I have been very gratified and very pleased, personally
with the very fine job that Paul Andrews has done but I want
to say that I don't think that it is anywhere near the fine
job he is going to do.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask a question.
Does that mean that Mr. Andrews has been reappointed today
that he must supplement the lunchoen paid for by Commissioners
Gibson and Reboso?
Mayor Ferre: I think that's something that we're going to
leave now. It will have to be in sunshine too. Mr. Andrews,
the Chair will recognize you for a statement.
Mr. Andrews: I want to thank the Commission for their expres-
sion of confidence in me and I want to assure you that you
have just expressed, Mr. Mayor, that I will do everything to
improvelupon any of the actions I have already taken in be-
half of the City of Miami and I can assure you that. the City
will move ahead insofar as its City Administration is con-
cerned. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Andrews. At this point I will
turn over the chair to Father Gibson.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, before you make your statement, I
ask for the opportunity to speak so I would expect you to
honor it.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not the chair now and Father Gibson, I
would like to be recognized for the purpose of making a mot-
ion, if I may and then I am sure we can make other motions.
Reverend Gibson: All right.
Mayor Ferret During the tixne 1 was interim Mayor I sponsored
the Charter change to make the office of the City Attorney a
full time position. On November 6th the electorate of the
City of Miami overwhelming voted to do just that. In my op-
inion the persons nominated for director of the Department of
Law in the City of Miami should have three distinct qualifi-
cations. One, his integrity must be beyond reproach, Two,
he must be thoroughly familiar with the procedures of Munici-
pal government. Three, he must be a knowledgeable public
servant, a protector of the city taxpayer. It is for these
reasons that I nominate a man who has served for 13 years as
Assistant and Assistant Director of Law, Mr. John Lloyd.
Mr. Lloyd is a tenacious dedicated man who worked his way
through the University of Miami Law School, graduating Magnum
Cum Laud in 1954. Prior to that time he was in the radio and
newspaper field. He is a recognized authority on torts and
has certainly proven his ability in governmental law these
past years. Mr. Lloyd is a professional thoroughly familiar
with the procedures of government, especially the City of
Miami. At this important cross roads, I am sure he in turn
will assure that the City Law Department hires promising, cap-
able attorneys that perhaps can someday work their way up to
City Attorney. I am confident Mr. Lloyd would be very con-
scious of hiring attorneys of various ethnic backgrounds,
both men and women. The appointment of John Lloyd would fol-
low the same reasoning as the previous appointment we just
heard of Paul Andrews. As in industry, unquestionably, pro-
dntion from within strengthens the organization. These men
have proved their ability under fire. Their promotion to the
number one spot will uphold the moral of the City employees
to stress the belief and opportunity in the growing healthy
City of Miami. In years past when Metro has followed this
procedure of internal promoting of internally appointing the
Law Department the City of Miami has not. The only reason we
should ever go outside of the City of Miami for promotions is
when we do not have the qualifications internally. At no
time can the City of Miami afford to compromise with excell-
ence. I am pleased that in the case of John Lloyd both these
requirements and excellence are complemented. It is equally
important that we extinguish the fires that burn at the altars
of political patronage. In the case of John Lloyd, a profes-
sionally dedicated man to the City, no such accusations can
be made. Within the past 24 hours I have contacted nine
people who are in my opinion, a good cross section of this
community, being either attorneys or knowledgeable with the
proceedings of the City of Miami's Department of Law. I have
gotten from each of the 9 positive reactions varying from
enthusiasm to a strong recommendation. In all cases all of
these consulted were of the opinion that the integrity and
ability of John Lloyd were unquestionable. Those consulted
were Mr. Syndey Aronovitz, former City of Miami Commissioner
and Little H.U.D. Chairman, Mr. Mitchell Wolfson, Chairman
of the Downtown Parking Authority, Mr. Daniel P.
attorney for the Miami Herald and other community corporations
and a civic activist. Mr. Alan Rothstein, our present City
Attorney, Mr. Daniel Cavannaugh prominent attorney in many
civic causes, Mr. Jack Rice former City of Miami Attorney,
Mrs. Alice Wainwright former City of Miami Commissioner,
well-known conservationist, attorney and community activist,
Mr. Stewart Simon, Metro Attorney and finally, Judge Thomas
E. Lee, Jr., Chief Judge of the llth Jucicial Circuit Court
of Florida. In the interest of time, I will not read, but
will submit for the record a letter addressed to Commissioner
Reboso dated November 14th where Mr. Bill Colson of Colson
and Hicks compliments Mr. John Lloyd for a brilliant job he
did and recommends this man highly. For these reasons I
ntrongly reooMMend that We appoint d'ohn Lloyd as City of Miami
Attorney.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor and Mr. Vice -Mayor, I understand that
a second is in order and I will second that motion.
Mrs. Gordon: I have another nomination. I would like to
put the second nomination into consideration for this Com-
mission. May I proceed, Mr. Mayor?
Reverend Gibson: You may, Rose.
Mrs. Gordon: When I was a candidate a little over two years
ago and I prepared a platform on which I was going to run,
and one I firmly believed in, it was that this City should
have a full time City Attorney and I would like you all to
know, and those of you who already don't know it, I fought
deligently and persistently for what we're about to do today.
Any nomination I make has no reflection upon the qualificat-
ions and integrity or in any other way upon the individual
whose name has already been placed in nomination but in a
democracy it is fair and right that we might consider more
than one person equally qualified, with the same amount of
integrity and the equal kind of background for the position.
It is with this in mind that I'm going to put another name
on the table for consideration of my fellow Commissioners and
I'm assuming the vote will be taken and the one who meets
with the most favor will be selected. I would like you to
know that I have checked with this individual to be certain
of the willingness and enthusiasm to serve the City and it
has been given. The person that I'm going to nominate is a
person who was born here in the City of Miami, she is a woman
who has distinguished herself in government and in the com-
munity. She has a tremendous record of honors and achieve-
ments much too long to read at this time but they read at
least two pages long. The woman that I would like to nom-
inate I'm proud to put in nomination and it should be, and
it is a fair and right thing that we consider both men and
women for the same position. I'm going to nominate Mrs.
Gwendolyn Sawyer Cherry for Attorney for the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, Mrs. Gordon, would Mrs. Cherry
relinquish her position as a member of the Florida legis-
lature?
Mrs. Gordon: She understands this is a full time position.
Mayor Ferre: I might just say, is Mrs. Cherry here today?
Mrs. Gordon: Mrs. Cherry, I don't believe is here today but
she has been contacted and has supplied the information I
have just given to you.
Mayor Ferre: Before this comes to a vote I want to say that
I have the highest regard and respect for Mrs. Gwendolyn
Cherry. I think that she is a woman of outstanding capabil-
ity. I think that she is an excellent attorney. She is a
proven leader and a woman certainly dedicated to the best
causes of mankind and I think she is a wonderful woman. I
do think as I stated that the only way we can look outside
of the City of Miami is after we have exhausted an honest
sincere look within our own ranks to see if someone within
our ranks is capable of handling the job and since I feel
that we do have one in our midst who is a man of excellence
and who is a man of stature, who is a man of, for the record
not only in government but specifically within the City of
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Miami. 1 want to be very emphatic for the record in saying
that 1 am not voting against Gwendolyn Cherry but rather that
I' m_ vot ing for d'ohn Lloyd.
Mrs. Gordon: I would like to state in her qualifications
that she has a multitude of qualifications that would make
her an excellent choice. She is as well as an attorney,
she's a teacher, she's an author, she has state government
experience too. She would present this City with a new ap-
proach. We need a new approach in our Law Department. We
don't necessarily have to live with what we have had simply
because we have it. We need to have someone else in my op-
inion to come in. I had consulted with the Dade County Bar
because my first thought was that the bar supply us with
three or four names, men and women for our consideration.
The bar had informed me that they were not inclined to make
recommendations for political types of appointment which
they considered this kind of an appointment to be, one that
serves at the will of this Commission. I have a point of
information which I would like answered with regard to Mr.
Lloyd who I believe has Civil Service status. Does he have
Civil Service status?
Mr. Rothstein: Mr. Lloyd is presently in the unclassified
service of the City of Miami Law Department. He previously
was a classified employee. The procedure that is followed
is that if you are a classified employee and you move to
unclassified, you have the right to go back if you are re-
moved from your unclassified position to your Civil Service
Rating even though it may be much lower.
Mrs. Gordon: I see, that was the consideration I was think-
ing of also with regard to him which might not be exactly
fair to him. I have placed the name of Mrs. Gwendolyn
Sawyer Cherry in nomination.
Reverend Gibson: Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen, I have
no problem with the nominees. I have some real concern and
problems with how we're going to live with this from today,
tomorrow, the next day and the next day.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, a point of information. Are you
speaking to the motion that has not received a second? If
so you are speaking out of order.
Reverend Gibson: I'm not speaking to either motion, I'm
speaking to what really bothers me.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Now let's get something settled
first. I asked the City Attorney that there is a second
needed for the motion. Mrs. Gordon has made a motion, I
have not heard a second.
Mrs. Gordon: Father, do you want to continue? I have a
statement to that...
Reverend Gibson: Let's deal with the motion, the nomination..
Mrs. Gordon: The nomination and the second, the rules of
order that we operate under, Mason's Rules of Order, does
that require a second or is this your own opinion, Mr.
Rothstein?
Mr. Rothstein; As every other resolution or motion before
this Commission that's appropriate for passage to make an
appointment to a post requires a second.
Mrs. Gordon: tut that doesn't answer my question. Are we
operating under Maeon's rules?
Reverend Gibson: Let me Rose, whether it does or it doesn't,
it can be very easily resolved that either you have a second
or you don't have, you have a second, the proof of the pud-
ding would be in the vote and you have the right when the
clerk calls the name of your nominee, anyone wants to vote
for the nominee votes and if when your nominee is called
anybody wants to vote votes and whether we get a second or
not, I know that's right.
Mrs. Gordon: Right. I don't believe we need a second.
Reverend Gibson: Let me say this, Mr. Mayor and Commission,
before we vote, and I have nothing against either party, I
hope, I would be much happier if we wrote some rules. For
instance, I have some real problems with whether you are go-
ing to jump from Civil Service status back out of Civil Ser-
vice status, I'm not speaking for anybody. I will accept
any nominee, but you know, I sit up here in these few months
you gave me, gave me a little time to look and learn and
listen. Let me ask some questions for the public. You take
the Chair now so that I can ask some questions.
Mayor Ferre: You can ask questions from the Chair.
Reverend Gibson: A11 right. Mr. Lloyd has been working for
the City how long?
Mr. Rothstein: Thirteen years.
Reverend Gibson: All right, how many years may one work or
can one work before, for instance, Mr. Andrews, I learned
something from your appointment and I want to make sure I'm
don't back myself into a corner now. Do you understand what
I'm talking about, Mr. Rothstein? For instance, Mr. Lloyd is
a Civil Service employee. What are the rules pertaining to
Civil Service employees?
Mr. Rothstein: May I say this? I don't think that Civil
Service has anything to do with this question because Mr.
Lloyd is the Assistant City Director which is unclassified
service and he will not be affected in one way or the other.
It won't make any difference
Reverend Gibson: What is the.advantage of being a Civil
Service employee that is not true otherwise? That is what I
want the public to get.
Mr. Rothstein: I can explain that. The Civil Service em-
ployees are employees who have worked in various departments
at various levels of the City operation of government. They
get hired after tests, after promotions through Civil Service
rules and regulations. At some point where the higher level
positions are available, whether it be City Attorney appoint-
ed by the City Commission or whether it be assistants to the
directors or director heads appointed by Mr. Andrews or the
heads of the departments, for the most part, the history has
been that the experience that these men or women have gotten
moving up and taken advantage of them, and then they. go in
the upward positions in the unclassified service. There is
no restriction, however, for the fact that the unclassified
service must be picked from Civil Service. :_So that from
time to time, you see the City Manager appointing a head of
the Department of Recreation from some other community or
the bringing itl of other men or women from the outside at
higher level positions as assistants to the director or as
the director. The point that I believe you are asking is
what is the procedure. For the most part, people moved up
through the ranks because of their experience and their
proven loyalty to the City. On occasion when you need per-
sonell that you can not move up or somebody of a top level
becomes available from somewhere else, you can at a higher
level, based on their experience elsewhere move them in at a
higher level.
Mr. Plummer: Father, may I ask a question which might get
to the point? Mr. Rothstein, is it true today that Mr. Lloyd
in his position serves at the whim of the director?
Mr. Rothstein: That's correct.
Reverend Gibson: That's what I wanted to hear. I wanted to
make sure that we were not going to be locked in.
Mr. Rothstein: May I say one thing more? Every attorney
that works for the Law Department or who will work for the
Law Department °-las the lady police sergeant that we've hired,
Miss Carter, all of those people are appointed by the City
Attorney.
Mrs. Gordon: By who?
Mr. Rothstein: By the City Attorney, not by the Commission.
Reverend Gibson: All right. Let me raise another question.
We now have gone to a full time City Attorney which I am glad
we are doing. I have some real problems with that but I'm
not going to let my bias come out today. What I want to know
is, this man is appointed for how long? You see, he didn't
say that in this business and I don't want to see us backed
in a corner..
Mr. Rothstein: The answer is very simply...
Reverend Gibson: For two years?
Mr. Rothstein: No sir. At the time you passed the reso-
lution I had three alternatives placed before you. One of
which provided for a two year term, one of which provided
for what was passed, and one of which had some other pro-
visions. But I made it very clear that unless you put the
terminology two -year -term, when this Charter amendment pass-
ed that Attorney would be serving at the will of the Commis-
sion. In other words there's a procedure in the Charter how
the will of the Commission is expressed with reference to
the City Manager. There is no such procedure, that was the
third alternative, the procedure for the City Attorney be
removed, so there is no such procedure for the City Attorney
and that means that the City Attorney serves at the will of
the Commission. He can be hired today, fired tomorrow.
Reverend Gibson: All right. I'm clear. Let me make sure
now. You see, I'm a slow learner. If in the morning, today,
we're going to hire Mr. Lloyd or anybody else as a City Attor-
ney, Mr. Lloyd or anybody else, Mrs. Cherry, and if next week
we decide this person is not acting as we the Commission
feels they ought t,:,, act, we can fire him.
Mr. Rothstein: It's the same thing as with the Manager but
without some of the minor technicalities.
Reverend Gibson: All right, let meesay this. Well, it isn't
so easy to do it to a lawyer because he's his own lawyer but
if a City Manager has to go get himself a lawyer. But the
other question is this: What then, as we now stand, suppose
we appoint Mr. Lloyd, and we decide two weeks later we don't
want Mr. Lloyd, what are we obligated to do at that point?
Other than say here's your paycheck, you've worked for us
18 years and two months and we think that your work is not
satisfactory?
Mr. Rothstein: There is a slight technicality. You could
remove him immediately as you said and say we don't want you,
Mr. City Attorney. In Mr. Lloyd's case, he had a lower level
Assistant City Attorney Civil Service Ranking protecting him
if he wanted to stay as a lower level Assistant City Attorney.
That would not go for anyone else who gets appointed. Put
them in today and get them out tomorrow.
Reverend Gibson: A11 right. I just wanted to make sure
that I understand and that the public understands, I could
fire him as the City Attorney but I would have to keep him
on as an attorney in the lower capacity, isn't that right?
If he chooses to stay.
Mr. Rothstein: Only in the case of Mr. Lloyd. Right.
Because he has been 13 years with the City.
Reverend Gibson: All right, I just wanted to make sure I
understood it.
Mrs. Gordon: Carter has brought up a very good point, may I
elaborate on that? Since he is under Civil Service indirectly
if not directly in that position, he would have some conflict
on any matters where Civil Service were concerned.
Mr. Rothstein: That's not so, ma'am.
Mr. Plummer: Father Gibson, let's get this for the record.
I hope that none of your questions or Mrs. Gordon today as
it pertains to the City Attorney and in particularly per-
tains to Mr. Lloyd, that the record will reveal that these
questions were for information purposes only that there was
no intent behind them that in two weeks if for some reason
Mr. Lloyd is discharged, it cannot be said that that was the
intent at the time of hiring. So I hope that therecord will
be very clear that these questions were asked for information
purposes only.
Reverend Gibson: Yes. I just want to make sure that every-
body understands that Theodore Gibson will ask these quest-
ions even if they hurt me. That is the way I have lived on
this Commission. I think that I ought to be fully aware
when I vote, what I'm voting on and I want Mr. Lloyd to
understand that this does not lock us in and I want us to
understand that this does not lock us in.
Mrs. Gordon: Clear the parliamentary rules, please, from
the Mason's Rules under which we operate and then we can go
on from there.
Reverend Gibson: Don't worry, Mrs. Gordon, I'm going to
give everybody a chance to vote for his or her candidate.
As the presiding officer, I will ask the clerk to call the
name of, shall the last be first or the first last, which do
you want? Do you want me to call for the vote?
Mrs. Gordon: Don't we need a clarification of the Attorney's
opinion?
Mr. Rothstein: I can clarify it very simply. When the rul-
of the parliamentarian is questioned and the chair has made
a ruling, the Chair's ruling stands unless otherwise challeng-
ed by a full vote of the Commission.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I'm challenging the parliamentary rul-
ing because
Mr. Rothstein: Ma'am, I don't think you understand...
Mrs. Gordon: I understand.
Mr. Rothstein: The presiding officer has ruled in your
favor and I can't understand why you would challenge him.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were speaking of
the man that made the motion. I think of the Mayor as being
the presiding officer.
Mayor Ferre: I think we are going to get a little confused
here. Let me repeat what Mr. Rothstein said.
Mrs. Gordon: I understand.
Mayor Ferre: He agrees with you Rose. Ok?
Mxs. Gordon: Ok, let's go. Move on.
Reverend Gibson: All right. It is clear to me, I hope it
is clear to everybody else that we're going to call the
roll on the respective nominees. Do you want us to do this
with a ballot or do you or do you want it... Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: All right, this first roll call will be on the
first nomination of Mr. Lloyd. Is that correct?
Reverend Gibson: Which do you want first Rose, do you want
your name or...
Mrs. Gordon: I would like the alphabetical order followed.
Reverend Gibson: All right, Cherry.
Mr. Ongie: Roll call on the nomination of Gwendolyn Cherry.
Mr. Plummer,...
isdr. Plummers <:-I 'will rchallenge the Clerk's ruling . Mr. Clerk,
we will follow the same policy that we've followed at all times,
rotation.. voting.
Reverend Gibson: Rotation of voting, whatever that means.
Let the Clerk explain to the public what he means.
Mr. Rothstein: Mr. Chairman,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Vice -Mayor, if we're going to get techni-
cal let's go right down the line.
Mr. Rothstein: If we're going to get technical then the first
nomination is the first one to vote on.
Reverend Cibsont All right, first Nomination, let's go.
Mrs. Gordon: Wait a minute. I would prefer a written bal-
lot as we have done on ...
Reverend Gibson: All right, let's write them.
Mayor Ferre: Now wait a moment.
Reverend Gibson: Write your ballots.
Mrs. Gordon: And number them. We might have more than one.
This is democracy in action, people.
Mr. Rothstein: Mr. Presiding Officer, each ballot should
have the name of the Commissioner who made the ballot marked
on it and then it should be handed to the clerk.
Mr. Ongie: Before these, I have six pieces of paper and there
are only five Commissioners.
Reverend Gibson: Write another ballot.
Mr. Ongie: All right, this is the first ballot. Reverend
Gibson votes for Mr. Lloyd, Mr. Reboso votes for Mr. Lloyd.
Mayor Ferre votes for Mr. Lloyd. Mrs. Gordon votes for Mrs.
Cherry and Mr. Plummer votes for Mr. Lloyd.
Thereupon. Mayor Ferre resumed the Chair.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, may I make the vote unanimous?
Mayor Ferre: I think that would be very good and I now
accept a motion on the part of Rose Gordon to make the vote
unanimous to appoint John S. Lloyd as City of Miami Attorney.
Do we have a second?
Mrs. Gordon: We don't need a second.
Mayor Ferre: Yes you do.
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 73-923
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AND ELECTING
JOHN S. LLOYD TO THE OFFICE OF CITY
ATTORNEY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AND PROVIDING FOR EMOLUMENTS OF OFFICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-rAYES: Mr. Reboso,
Reverend Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mrs. Gordon: May I make a short statement, Mr. Mayor, so that
no one thinks that my vote reflected against Mr. Lloyd at any
time whatsoever. This is democracy, we have our own opinions
and we express them. This is a completely independent Commis-
sion as you can see.
Mayor Ferre: I c fr +completely agree with th . Mrs. Go gbh,
t commend you for your action and I want to repeat what 1
said that my vote was not against r4rs. Cherry, it was for
John Lloyd.
Mrs. Gordon: I understand.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think the record would reflect
that of all of the Commission. Not just your own, but I
think it would reflect that of Reboso, Gibson and Plummer.
REQUEST POLICE CHIEF BERNARD GARMIRE TO APPEAR AT THE NEXT
COMMISSION MEETING.
Mayor Ferre: My fellow Commissioners, at this time, and I
do this with apology to you because this is not the purpose
of this meeting but the headlines that I and all of us have
been seeing in the newspapers are such that I think we just
have to take some strong action very quickly and I'm going
to pass out to you a statement which I am making here this
morning. I want the City of Miami made safe to walk in once
again. It can and will be done. During my recent campaign
I promised the people of Miami better police protection. I
intend to see that they get it. I don't believe the public
is going to continue buying police statistics saying crime
is decreasing in the City of Miami when daily newspaper
headlines tell us differently. We must make immediate steps
to return the credibility in the Police Department by the
citizens. We must take positive steps to discourage the
criminal element from continuing to flaunt the law of the
City of Miami. I think it is a disgrace that 5 City of Miami
Police Officers are accused of raping a woman right in down-
town Miami. I don't want to pre -judge the accusation but I
know it has had a shattering effect on the confidence of tax-
payers. Within the past few weeks we have had a half dozen
vicious murders or attempts in the downtown area, a man's
skull cracked in a downtown open parking lot, a British girl
visiting beaten beyond intelligence at the bus depot, stabb-
ings, rapes, a public official, in the last few days beaten
to death in the downtown hotel and so ad nausium . Within the
past few days a bandit walked into a Flagler Street Bank and
committed a robbery. In the downtown area there have been
close to fifty breaking and entering cases within a month. Many
merchants on Flagler Street are again talking about closing down
and moving out. Prostitutes are openly operating on a strip of
Biscayne Boulevard flagging down traffic within shouting dis-
tance of the Chief of Police's residence. A television mer-
chant in Little River told me he was shutting down his store
because after five robberies he could no longer afford to keep
open stock on hand. He had tried selling from a catalogue, and
sales were going continually down. I want the City Manager to
take these immediate steps. Number one; to summon the Chief of
Police to the next meeting of the City Commission for an open
and frank discussion of the city's police problems, and leave
the statistics at the police station. Two; to tell the City
Commission what the department needs that it hasn't been given,
if anything. Three; develop a plan for better police protection
on the streets, in the neighborhoods and in the business commun-
ity, and lay it before the City Commission and the public in
language we can all understand. I don't want to hear any preach-
.ng about social studies to search out root causes of crime.
Social studies should be made, but not as a cop-out or an excuse.
The public isn't going to continue to accept excuses. If these
studies are necessary let them be made in conjunction with posi-
tive action for better police protection, and not instead of it.
The old excuse was that more money was needed to employ more
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policemen. That was acceptable at first. Now there is enough
money in the City's budget to employ sixty more police officers.
I understand the stumbling problem now is that sixty qualified
policemen cannot be found. I am not going to buy that. Through-
out the United States it is reported in a news article in the
Miami News of November the 13th, which I have also attached to
this release, that major city police departments are being over-
whelmed with applications. I well understand that under the
City charter I cannot take direct action with the Police Chief
and must channel my thoughts through the City Manager, the Chief's
direct boss, but if we don't get a clarification of this matter
soon, I intend to take legislative action. I hope it does not
become a situation where the City Commission has to ask the people
for a charter amendment putting the Chief of Police under the
Mayor and Commission. We have a splendid City Manager --and I
want to repeat that --we have an outstanding City Manager, and a
good Police Chief. Most of the officers are dedicated, honest
and hard working men and women, but I am convinced we need better
police administration and less excuses. I intend to see that the
parks, the streets and the neighborhoods of Miami are safe for
citizens to walk in once again. My principle objective --and let
me be very emphatic about this --is to see that the Police Depart-
ment has everything it needs to do the job. If it doesn't have
everything it needs, I think we on the Commission should know
about it immediately. The police deserve the public support, and
I intend to see that they get it.
CITY CLERK & ASSISTANT CITY CLERK - APPOINTING H. D. SOUTHERN
& RALPH G. ONGIE:
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 73-924
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AND ELECTING
H. D. SOUTHERN TO THE OFFICE OF CITY
CLERK OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AND PROVIDING FOR EMOLUMENTS OF OFFICE
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's office)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Reverend Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 73-925
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AND ELECTING
RALPH G. ONGIE TO THE OFFICE OF ASSISTANT
CITY CLERK OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AND PROVIDING FOR EMOLUMENTS OF OFFICE
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted re and
on file in the City Clerk's office)
Upon being seconded by Reverend Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Reverend
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mr. Carlos Arboleya appeared and made the following state-
ment:
My name is Carlos Arboleya, 1941 SW 23rd Street. I very
much subscribe to that statement, Mr. Mayor, that you have just
given on the Police Department, and I would like to make one
comment on that statement. It is not only the Police Department
that this Commission should direct its efforts toward. It is
perhaps toward the judges, the courts and the juries, because
no sooner does the Police Department apprehend a criminal than
within twenty-four hours he is out on the street repeating his
crime. Our system, I realize, provides for this, but it is not
only the Police Department that we should focus our views on. It
is our courts, as well as our judges, etcetera, as to once the
criminal is apprehended, and our attorneys, once the criminals
are apprehended to make sure that they stay behind bars.
ADJOURNMENT: On motion duly made and seconded the meeting
was adjourned at 1:10 o'clock P.M.
MAURICE A. FERRE
MAYOR
ATTEST: H. D. SOUTHERN
CITY CLERK
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