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CITY OF MIAMI
SPECIAL
COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON 17th of OCTOBER, 1974 Federal Revenue Sharing
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
11, D. SOUTHERN RALPH G. ONGTE
City Clexk
Assistant Ci t,r cter.,t,
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MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING
CITY COMMISSION.OE 0II4MI, FLORIDA
ON nig 17TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 1974 THE CITY COMMISSION
-F MIAMI, ftOIDA MET AT ITS REGULAR MEETING PLACE AT CITY
HALL IN SAID CITY IN SPECIAL SESSION TO CONSIDER THE PROP-
OSEED DALPPROPRIAIION YEAR RDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE
FITHE METING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:05 O'CLOCK P.M.
BY TOR, MAURICE A. I'ERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF
THE COMMISSION PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
COMMISSIONER
COMMISSIONER
OMMI �jS�IONER
VICE MAYOR
MAYOR
J.L. PLUMMER,.JR.
ROSE GO DON
(REV.) HEODORE GIBSON
�!ANOLO gBOAO
1AURICE A. tERRE
P. W. ANDREWS,
1. . CROUCH,
HOH1 S . LLOYD,
OUTHERN,
RALPH . UNGIE,
ITY MANAGER
SST, CITY MANAGER
rY ATTORNEY
Y C ERK
T. LITY CLERK
AN INVOCATION WAS DELIVERED BY COMMISSIONER (REV.) GIBSON
WHO THEN LED THOSE PRESENT IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,
MAYOR FERRE: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A SPECIAL CITY OF
MIAMI COMMISSION MEETING THAT IS BEINQ HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF
RHE DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION FOR SOCIAL SERVICES t'EDERAL
EVENUE SHARING AND TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THESE PROGRAMS,
1 THINK THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK THE 'TANAGER
TO MAKE A QUICK VERBAL REPORT OR RECAP OF WHAT THE PROCEDURES WERE
THAT WERE FOLLOWED, WHAT THE CONCLU IONS ARE AND WHAT THE RECOMMEND-
ATIONS 0 THE COMMITTEE AND OF THE MANAGER ARE( AND 1 D LIKE FOR
YOU MR. MANAGER TO START BY RECOGNIZIMG THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
OR THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED t'UND AND LADE COUNTY IF THEY
ARE HERE. (1 DON T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE HERE TODAY),
MR. ANDREWS: THEY SHOULD BE MR. MAYOR. THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
WHO EVIFWED ALL THESE PROJECTS WERE MR, I1:L.Fo__ OF UNITED FUND
AND MR. LOVITZ,. HIS ASSISTANT, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND MYSELF REPRESENT-
ED THE_ OMMITTEE THAT REVIEWED ALL OF TMF REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED
TO THE TY, WHI H NUMBERED INCIDENTLY 4U REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE FOR
1 EVEtNUE SHARING IUNDS TOTALING 6 MILL QQ 30U AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS,
HE LITY HAD APPROXIMATELY I MILLION 1UU THOUSAND DOLLARS AVAILABLE
TO PROGRAM FOR THESE VARIOUS REQUESTS. WE ATTEMPTED TO ANALYZE AND
DID ACTUALLY ANALYZE EACH RE UEST AND ATTEMPTED TO RELATE IT TO THREE
GENERAL CATAGORIES, ONE WAS GILD LARE CATAGORY, ADDITIONA ATAGORIES
YOUTH SERVICES, LAST ONE WAS tXCUS M FOUR (4) CATAGORIES) CATAGORIES
CATAGORY,(ASS,ISTANCE TO THE E DERLY), NERAL CATAGORY-WHICH PROVIDED
SERVICES FOR t'AMILIES, LEGAL SERVICES, HEALTH SERVICES -AS FAR AA DRUG
ADDICTION IS CONCERNED, GENERAL EDUCATION, CULTURAL PROGRAMS. MR.
MAYOR WE'VE SUBMITTED TO YOU OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND PARTICULARLY,
HE LITY MANAGER S RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REFERENCE TO THE FUNDING,
HE CATAGORY SELECTED ARE IN THE FOUR PAGES OF THE MEMORANDUM THAT
SUPPLIED TO YOU AND IF YOU WISH 1 CAN GO THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICKLY
TO IDENTIFY THE RECOMMENDED PROGRAMS TO BE FUNDED AND THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY TO :E PROVIDED IF YOU FOLLOW THE MANAGER S RECOMMENDATIONS.
IHEY ARE .�� ::� -..$2Q�1 QOQ AFTER SCHOOL HOUSE - $5 03,
EDISQN LITTL 'I ER ILF- ELP - $1UU,UQb IN QNE CATAGORY AND $30,bOU
IN ANOTHER, ST. HLBAN S I NURSERY - 36�,OOu, THE COMMUNISM SCHOOLS-
$56,500, Youth Co -Op - $85,000, Big Brothers & Big Sisters - $20,000,
Urban League, - $75,000, Belafonte Tacolcy Center - $10,000
Y.M.C.A. - $11,000, Coconut Grove Optimist Club - $10,000, Model City
Sports Development $6,500, Northwestern High School, Activities Program -
$6,500, Little Havana Activities Center - $145,000, Coconut Grove .Family
Clinic - $80,000, Legal$ervices - $86,000, Catholic Services Bureau, St.Luke
's Center - $100,000, Channel 2 - $3,000, Variety of Cultural Programs -
$10,000, Edison Little River Self -Help - $30,000 and a Contingency of $14,551.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager. Are there any representatives of the
committee that were with you representing Metropolitan Dade County or represent-
ing the United Fund here? I'll recognize you at this time for the way it's
written - George Washington Carver Jr. High School first. -etc. Ladies and gentle-
men as you address the Commission, state your name and address for the record and
then make your statement. I would like to ask each group to limit their state-
ments to no more than 10 minutes and let's say that each speaker should not go
more than three minutes. If you want to extend beyond that then we'll take it
as it goes along and maybe we can extend it, all right?
Carol Bibbs: Good Evening. I am a parent of three children at the George
Washington Carver Afternoon Community Program and I am expressing myself for
I think moat of the parents as to plead to you our need for this program. The
majority of the parents of the children at the school are working mothers and
to have this program snapped from under them at this point is going to almost
create chaos in our community. Our enrollment has increased. I, myself
has gone down downtown to talk with Dr. Tassey and I was not aware - he did
explain to me however, that it was funded and that it could off, but we didn't
know that it was going to be cut off now. We had meetings and all of the parents
were just terribly upset and I cannot express this as much as I would like too.
I wish that each parent could speak for themselves;and like I said I work..
My husband works and our children have learned, it has helped them so much. The
tutoring that they gets, the activities that they get and it is truly a blessing
when a mother can work and feel and know that her child is taken care of, that
she is not worrying if the babysitter got in from school on time. She is not
worrying if whoever Big Sister or Brother has gotten him home without an accident
- all of these things and it is very bad when you have to go through this when you
are working. A lot of mothers say that they will have to quit their jobs. A lot
of people may not believe it but it's going to happen that means that Welfare is
going to go up and other things are going to occur that the City in a long run will
suffer and the funds, I hope and I pray right now that they will be granted to us.
Mayor Ferre: I know this is going to be very hard. But will you please try to
refrain from becoming emotionally. Everybody is for their program and if we go
into booing or clapping it'll permit somebody else to boo or clap, so let me try
at the outset of this to plead with you and ask you please to refrain from either
booing,whistling or clapping, please, if you can. If you can't refrain, well then
go ahead and do it. Now, Commissioner Plummer wanted to ask a question which I
think is first.
Comm. Plummer: All right, first of all, let me ask you if I may? How many child-
ren are involved in your program?
Carol Bibbs: There are fifty(50) I believe.
Comm. Plummer: Fifty. All right. The most important question, because it keeps
cropping up and it has caused a great deal of problems. Where did anyone get any
information that was supplied to you that this program was going to be cut off?
Who told you that this program was going to be cut off?
Mayor Ferre: In other --- how do you know that it is going to be cut off?
Comm. Plummer: You said that you went to the doctor at the School Board when you
heard that the program was going to be cut off.
Carol Bibbs: No, I went to him as a parent to find out more about the program.
When I first learned of the program- when my children got involved in it, well I
didn't know that it was funded as a yearly basis. I thought that this was something
permanent.
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Comm. Plummer: But didn't you make the statement that someone told you that
the program was going to be cut out?
Carol Bibb: It was my understanding. I cannot stand here and say that Dr.
Tassey told me that. No that Mrs. Taylor, Mr. Williams, Mr. -- noone. The
understanding that I've gotten through the news media when I was listening to
the program on T.V. and talking to some unofficial people, this is the under-
standing that they had.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Comm. Plummer: The reason that I am asking the question is very obvious. The
obvious point is nowhere do I know has there been any advocation that this
program was going to be cut off, but --- so I just was trying to get to the
basis of where this aurous information started.
Carol Bibb: Well cut off for that our funds were going to be cut.
Comm. Plummer: Which is the same thing.
Comm. Gordon: Yea. Mr. Mayor, may I say --- make a statement so we just don't
go around circles on a lot of things that we don't have to go in circles on, but
obviously people knew that the funding source which is us had been funded only
until October the 1st and then extended until the 25th and certainly that's
common knowledge. And unless we re -fund it which we haven't done yet, they have
apprenhension, so that's the answer.
Mayor Ferre: All right. I understand. Now, the next speaker will be the Little
River Elementary Program. Who will speak to that? All right. Will you come for-
ward ma'am please? Ladies and gentlmen as you will see, before me there is a green
and a red light. When the green lights goes on, that means the timer is on, when
the red light goes on that means you 've spoken three minutes. Ok?
Julia Slawgator: I have two young boys who have been going since last March to the
After Day Care Program at Little Community School. They truly enjoy this. They
have good supervision with responsible people. I must say I have good peace of mind
while I am at work and I hope that the program will keep on going on.
Mayor Ferre: How many children are involved in the Little River Elementary Program?
Julia Slawgator: Seventy-eight children(78).
Mayor Ferre: Are thentany questions? All right, the next speaker will represent
the Silver Bluff Elementary. May I have your attention? I think that the speakers
deserve the attention of everybody here, so please especially those of you in the
back and upstairs, may I please have your attention?
Susan Bartemus: Good Evening. Honorable Mayor,City Commissioners. I'd like to
take a moment of your time to express my concern over this program. My address
is 2521 S.W. 19th St.,City of Miami. I would like to make a request of $234,523
for the After School Care Program which as we know is taken care of my three diff-
erent schools.- Now, this amount of money that we are asking for is going only to
salaries. Each parent and each family pays a certain amount of money each week
which ranges between $2.00 and $8.00 a week for the services that you have provided
for us. These fees that we pay go back into our children. It goes to the children
in the form of art supplies, arts & crafts, books and studying materials. The
money that we are asking from you people only goes to pay for the salaries of our
Assistants and Aids, which we do draw from these colleges and schools in this system
and most of our assistants are trained in child care. We take care of children
between the ages of 5 and 14 years old and I believe that this is a wide range of
ages. In my school which is Silver Bluff Community School. We have enrolled betwee
90 and 100 children. We have cared for the total of the three schools have cared fo
up to 285 children at one time. We have also given service to over 500 families in
the community. We care for the children from 2:00 in the afternoon until 6 P.M.
when most parents are getting out of work. We also take care of the children if
are funded. We also take care of the children during the summer, from 7:30 in the
morning until 5:30 in the evening. This group takes care of children from all
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different ethnics groups, all levels of income, high class, the upper class
income, the lower income families, and the middle income families and we have
a wide range of ages of the children. May I also say Mr. Mayor that you and
the Commissioners have started quite a stir with this program. We have had
inquires from all over the Nation as to questions on this program. How we got
it started, how we got it funded, how we got it going, and how we carried it
through to become the quality program that it is today? I would just like to
say in closing that I feel that you could all be very proud of giving us these
funds because you have served the community as a whole. And I do hope that you
will see fit to give us our $234,523.00 and thank you for your time.
Mayor Ferre: The speaker will be representing the After School House.
Comm. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, there is some information from Mrs. Phyllis Miller
that I received in a letter that would clarify some of the points that you have
been asking, Mr. Plummer's been asking. May I read this into the record?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, of course go ahead.
Comm. Gordon: Dear Mrs. Gordon,
Since March of 1974, the City of Miami has sponsored an
After School Care Program in three of our communities school.
George Washington Carver, Silver Bluff and Little River.
These centers have served more than 500 children to 14 years
of age.and 372 families since their After School Project began.
Two-thirds of the families served were one parent families.
This program provides wholesome enrichment. Recreation, social
cultural and educational activities for young children from the
time they ordinarily are dismissed from school until 5:30 or
6 P.M. when there parents return home from work. It has been
a truly worthwhile endeavor especially helpful and providing
much needed help to the many working mothers in our community.
I sincerely hope the City of Miami will continue to fund this
much needed program for the fourth coming year.
Sincerely yours,
Phyllis Miller
Member of the School Board of
Dade County
I think that answers some of the points you wanted to know.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Now, I have about 30 such letters.. and we can't take the
time to read them into the record, but
Comm. Gordon: No, but this is from the School Board that are ---
Mayor Ferre: But I will submit them into record, Mr. Clerk and I would like for
them to be a part of the record. All of the letters that have been received.
All right. Now, the representative of the After School House, who speaks?
Peggy Sapps: I live at 6910 Cameron St., Coral Gables, Florida. Society has
thrust many children of many different backgrounds and interest into classroom and
asks the school to solve societies problems. As well as to provide a sound educat-
ion. Many children are unable to function effectively in such a situation and the
school cannot meet these problems without help. The children we hope to involve
in our After School House Program will be residents of the Coconut Grove area.
The purpose of the After School House is to help the child of the Coconut Grove area
to function more effectively in school by providing them with...accepting sheltered
atmosphere in which they can receivehomework, help tutoring pursue a creative
interest , used books and educational materials or just sit and talk. We believe
youngsters must see themselves as valued people and have a sense of self respect,
competence and belonging before they can successfully address themselves to the
task of learning the school curriculum. We differ from other programs in that we
put major emphasis on the self concept and acceptance instead of remedial procedures
Our entire program is geared to improving the child self image. We have a one to
one relationship through volunteers. We are now taking 30 students on Tuesday. We
hope to open 5 days a week and we are presently operating in Carver Elementary,
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Rock► 20 from 2.until_.5 _if the afternoon. We have asked for $5,102.50.
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell you that you got an extra .500. It's
$5,103.00.
Peggy Sappst Thank you.
Comm. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, it's not a question, but maybe a point of clarifi-
cation. I think it's going to be some time before definite decisions are going
to be made because as I understand it. We are going to hear this entire package
first. We either agree or disagree. Then if we disagreeon the package, then we
will go to start maybe cutting one or adding to another and I am just thinking
about all these children here and in the ---- just the one we already heard - the
After School that it's going to be at least 3 or 4 hours before we make a definite
decison so if you want to take the kids home. I think you might want to do that
and I just wanted you to know we are not going to make definite decisions right
away.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Edison Little River Self -Help Community Council.
Annette Eisenberg: Thank you. 5700 N.W. 2nd Avenue, Miami. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners
Mr. Manager. Another year brings us back to this dedicated Commission to point out the
serious necessity for re -funding our two successful programs,in such a way that we can
not only continue, Out can expand them to serve additional young people between the
ages of three and nineteen who are desperately seeking help without question as you
know, we supplied fabulous amounts of monies to our Police Department. Both in our
general fund and our 1evenue Sharing Funds. We do'not concentrate enough on prevention.
Is it better to spend endless dollars on a youth is jail, or to give him our help now?
0ur success with these children who participate in these programs we are asking you to
fund will have an affect on the entire city. We have co-ordinated program activities
with community agencies such as the Housing & Urban Development, Dept. of Agriculture,
Senior Citizen, Business and Local Residents, Community Action Agency, Dade County
School System, and the Parks and Recreation Department. We have been sophisticated
enough to pull out resources and co-ordinate them. Our non-profit corporation has been
capable of effectively administrating and delivering services to a wide range of people
from pre-school to senior citizens and catagorially from Manpower, Child Care, Youth,
Senior Citizen Service. We have been recognized for our ability to administer programs
successfully and have received endorsements from Federal, State, and Local Lenders
what you have in your possession. The pre-school program will continue to provide an
academic environment for our children and enable mothers to seek employment. The program
will continue to encourage the development of reading and numbers readiness and to deliver
sound and nutritional meals to the children daily. The pre-school program will continue
to take the children on field trips to expose them to areas outside the confine of the
classroom and to provide community services with Senior Citizens. The program will also
continue.eontinue to open doors to families of all economic backgrounds through a sliding
scale approach. The Youth Program will continue to provide leadership training to Youth
between 9 and 19. Training which involves 7 ethnics, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Blacks,
Whites, Haitians, Columbiana, and Bahamians. The Youth program will continue to give these
young people training in business field and in government. For an example, a Mini -govern-
ment has been established by the Youth Program in which the young people themselves carry
out a campaign and elect representatives and then govern themselves. More than 1,500
young people turned out to vote in our last Mini -government election. Mr. Mayor and
Members of the Commission, you will remember administering the oath of office to our
officers. The youth program will also continue to co-ordinate with the City of Miami
Parks and Recreation programs, arts and crafts, ceramics, dances and dramatics, within
the city facilities. Namely, the Annette Eisenberg Community Center.
Mayor Ferre: I am sorry but ----
Annette Eisenberg: I'm over, ok. While we understand the necessity in reducing our
original request. In order to operate effectively for the next fiscal year. We are
requesting $70,000 in addition to the fiV.e Manager's recommendation for us. Only with
this additional consideration can our programs be expanded and effectively serve the
many children waiting for our services. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you. We have with our Representative ElainsBloom who
is here to lend her support to Child Day Centers and Elaine since you know, as you
can see, if you would just keep your statement to maybe a minute, I would be most
grateful.
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Elaine Bloom: Thank you Mr. Mayor and Honorable Members of the City Commission.
t would only like to say to you that ttm asking for you to consider just three
main features. . is leadership. afin serving as a model for the rest of this
state and thug the sake of humanity. I know you recognise how you been acclaimed
throughout the country for your leadership in this area and I ask you to not re-
linquence that title into leadership. Because you have the opportunity to maintain
it and as a new State Representative I look to you to remain as a model for the
rest of the state to show what municipalities can do to provide After School Programs
and Youth Programs and Community School Programs. And as far as the sake of humanity
is concerned as I see Cannon Gibson standing before me I know that you are geared to
this particular issue effectively. I know that this out pouring of people who have
taken the time to come here cannot fail to impress you how very important these part-
icular social services are. All the previous speakers and I am sure those who will
follow me will reiterate this over and over again. And I know that you will show
the State Legislature the way to behave in the future. And I thank you very much for
considering it in that way. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. We have a telegram from William Turner, Vice Chairman
of Dade County School Board which I'd like to read into the record. Previously I planned
to attend Commission Meeting to voice my opinion regarding Little River Self Health
Council and Two Program which they administer Project Youth and the Pre -School Program.
Because these programs are meeting defiant community needs. I hope you will seriously
consider the refunding of these two most needed programs. Sincerely, William H Turner,
Vice Chairman Dade County School Board. I'll submit this into the record. Now, we will
hear from St. Albans Day Nursery. Who is the representative of the St. Albans Day Nursery?
Will you please come forward please?
Francine Stevenson: I live at 2105 W. 5th Ct. in Hialeah. Honorable Mayor and Commissioner-
I am pleased to put in a plea for the proposal that we have submitted requesting an addition
of 60 children to our family Day Care Program, which is a program that houses children for
working mothers from age 3 months through 3 years. This is a very needed addition to our
program because we now have 80 children involved and a waiting list well over 100 or more.
This requirement for entering this program for the working mothers and they are very
much in need of such care, so we hope that in your hour of decision you will consider the
expansion for St. Albans Family Day Care Program. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you. The next group is Ms. Wilson.
Anne Wilson: Mayor Ferre and Commissioners. I want to speak here today on the Child
Centers that we are presently opening. I was thrilled to see the for the opening
of the registration of the Shenandoah Children Center that's ready in Spanish and English
to serve the children of Miami. We have had requests from all over the nation. Same as
on our After School Program as to how this program was started. We have become a leader
in the nation in this fact. And I am very proud of my City for this. Children have no
constituency,they come in all colors, all religions, all races, all creed, they all need
to be served with After School and pre school care. 0ur children centers were due to open
very soon in our park; need more funds then are presently funded. As I understand it,
$40,000 was removed from those funds to set up a center in Wyndwood Park and they were
not used and they were not put back in that fund, they were put back in the general
revenue. And I would ask that those funds be restored(#1) $40,000.00(#2) As I understand
it they estimate that we will have an overage of $30,000.00 on our program. I respectfully
submit that revenues(estimate revenues) from operation is to high. I believe on a new
program it maybe too high a fee scale. The County who is just also new in this program
on a sliding fee scale has found that there scale has to be adjusted. The economy being
what it is, the fee scale was too high and we have set our fee scale as theirs. So I'
request that we restore the $40,000 that was taken out of the funds back to the funds and
that we do not count that $30,775 as overage, because I think that the cushion should be
there should the revenue that's expected not come through(that's all I am trying to say).
This program in the parks is a very unique program which the City of Miami in some directio
has been doing for over 30 years. This is merely an expansion of that program and I am
very proud of our city and I look forward with great anticipation to the opening of the
Shenandoah Children Center which will be our first Day Care Center in the park. Thank you.
Comm. Plummer: Approximately, how many children will be served in each center, approximat-
ely?
Anne Wilson: Fifty. (50)
Comm. Plummer: Fifty children in each center. Mr. Manager would you speak to the point
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that she just made about the $40,000.00?
Mt. Andrews: Yes. The grant funds, there were no expenditure from the grant funds
that was felt that it should be added to the funds that are being made available
here for reconsideration.
Coma. Plummer: In other words you have taken the $40,000 and is it included in this
report?
Mr. Andrews: Not the project is not included, the $40,000.00 is included for re -fund-
ing of other projects.
Comm. Plummer: And you've included that in this allocation? Ok.
Mr. Andrews: Yes and that's identified in the letter(memorandum of October).
Comm. Plummer: That's what I wanted to know.
Comm. -Gordon: Mr. Mayor may I speak to that please? Mr. Manager I think that you might
have made a mistake in assuming that these monies were not going to be used in the
Wyndwood area. And when they were first budgeted out of this it was on a temporary basis
to be replaced from the 1974-75 Revenue Sharing monies. And I think if you refer to the
minutes your find that to be so. So I think in both cases there is some adjustment to be
made. (1). $40,000.00 has to be restored to the Child Day Care Program in the parks and
to the Wyndwood areas desperately in need of Child Day Care and they are searching for a
suitable location to replace the two that they had originally lined up.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute. Mrs. Wilson are you finished?
Anne Wilson: I think Dr. David of the University of Miami would like to speak for a moment.
and Dr. Crown and Dr. Cavanaugh, just briefly.
Mayor Ferre: All right if you would please try to keep your statements to just a few
minutes.
Dr. David: Yes, Mr. Mayor I would like to back up the plea that Mrs. Wilson made for the
restoration of the $40,000. Last year this Commission appointed a task force on Child
Care that group has met over 40 times during the last year. It is a dedicated group of
citizens from every strati of our society and I don't know of any group that could of
given more time and more sincere effort to the establishment of these Day Care Centers.
I know you are going to be proud of them. You have just heard that one will open next
week and I hope that you will all attend the dedication--- right. This project as several
people has gained national attention members of this task force and your commmission have
been on programs of National Organization that have commended the City of Miami for being
a leader in the United States in using Revenue Sharing Funds in the manner in which they
were intended when Revenue Sharing was established. So I would like to plea with you that
you not cut off this program and the very moment that it is going into operation.
Comm. Gordon: Another point that needs to be remembered is that when we funded this last
year we didn't fund it for a full year knowing full well we couldn't be in operation for
a full year. So we have to restore some monies to continue the program for a full year,
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I want to ask us you keep saying that we are going to cut off this particular
program and Mr. Manager is there any intention on the administration's part to cut off this
program?
Mr. Andrews: Which program are we speaking of now, this particular one on the Day Care
Centers?
Dr. David: I have reference to the list that we were handed of the appropriations and it
is not mentioned on the list whatsoever.
Comm. Plummer: But it was funded from last year.
Dr. David: But those are insufficient.
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Mr._ Andrews: No it's not. When they had tot come forth with their program and the
churches that they were going to utilize in the community did not prove out success-
fully we felt that this money should revert back to a general use category with the
intention that it be reprogramed.
Mayor Ferre: Well, in other words is it funded are you proposing that it be funded,
is it programed from last year's funds yes or no?
Mr. Andrews: I was going to wait until the end of the program to indicate if the
Commission were to take this under consideration. How it might possibly be funded? And
I suggest that you wait until we get to the end.
Mayor Ferre: All right. I understand. Ok.
Dr. Crown: Mr. Mayor, I am wondering if we are not confusing several issues. The initial
concept (original concept) within the City of Miami Recreation Department was to establish
facilities for children within properties already owned by the city. There was a great deal
of effort to secure usuable facilities that could be placed in the city owned parks so that
the citizens of the City of Miami could in fact take and make use of a great need. I think
that the discussion of funds going into churches is a secondary and not the primary issue
that we've been talking about. I think also the fact that Day Care is finally being recog-
nized as a necessary commodity not to be confused with City and County politics. I think
that the fact the City is ready to go and has the basic plans for the Day Care facilities
are to then be given a chance to establish and see whether in fact the city itself can operate
this while the Metro operation is just beginning and getting it's activities started and I
think that before we confuse the issues let's see if can't at least establish what the city
has agreed and funded and take a look at it after a twelve month operation and then consider
whether we want to combine with other kinds of forces and communities.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you.
Dr. Cavanaugh: I do not want speak as a professional, because it appears that you've had
many professionals speak to you make recommendations. And obviously, the recommendations
the professionals have not been included in Day Care funding becaue it doesn't appear here.
So there is no since in speaking as a professional recommending certain things as a child
development specialist of any kind. I think what I would like to say to consider a couple
of things before you do make your decision as to how to appropriate this money that is (1)
this is not a youth oriented budget. A youth orientation means basically developing a
positive direction for youth. (you know saving the babies). And while you are talking about
saving the babies, there are probably 100 babies born today in Miami in the hospitals.
Think about those babies for a minute and realize that out of every 100 that are born 5 of
those will be in mental institutions sometime in their life. Another 4 to 5 will need
some kind of mental institution care and if inflation doesn't go up they'll be able to
provide that privately. Another 3 to 4 will break and commit major crimes requiring penal-
ization of some kind or expensive court cost. Another 4 will be handicapped out of that
100 and meaning what that to a certain extent some of those are kids who at an early age
were deprived of early stimulation leading to mental deficiency or debility. Out of the
remaining 30 to 50% will not be fully functioning people. And what am I making this whole
point for , just very simply to say that you have a chance to put in youth oriented program.
This one can't be constructed•Out of 9 million mere ------ put into anything that is child
care - after care or of 300 thousand which I think is what all of them total, certainly is
not child oriented. You have a chance if you want to do something efficient. Put your
money into programs because the first 5 years of a child's life have been proved. You know
you can count on an outcome for this kind of thing. It will be effective. Those kids are
provided security then later on they are the kids who in fact will take care of your County
will not need the later on remediation kind of care that is called for in so much ------
services. I guess that does it.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Dr. Cavanaugh. I think there was a mistatement that was made here
and because of confusion, so many things are going on. W. Andrews would you clarify the
point that these Day Care Centers are funded. Explain how and why?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. The three(3) Day Care Centers that were initiated in the 1973-74 budget
are funded for this coming year and are not part of this program that you are taking into
consideration. Because there was an expression to continue that programing for the coming
year. So those three Day Care Center have been funded and are accounted for.
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Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews will you admit that when we funded this last year we funded
it for only a half a year. We provided capital funds for the improvements and a half
a year of operational funding. Now you are saying that this is going to be sufficient
for the entire year and it is not. It is even short the $40,000 that we loaned to the
Wyndwood area which was to have been replaced back to this program and you have not
even provided that.
Mr...Andrews: Mrs. Gordon the request and I am going to start with the request for the
total program and what we felt was an appropriate budget. The request was made for
$412,000.00 for the coming year. After analyzing that budget we determined that $387,
000.00 would adequately provide for the carrying on of that program ($387,000).
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews I want to differ with you on that request was suppose to an
addition to what was remaining from the previous years allocation for operational funds
and not for the total amount. I think if you will re -check that again you will find that
to be true.
Mr. Andrews:
Mrs. Gordon:
That was to carry out a program of two additional Day Care Centers. (three)
No sir. No sir that does not.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's get it straight now, because we have
Mrs. Gordon: We are short. We are short Mr. Andrews. You are relying now to supplement
the Community Development grant that we applied for •--- taking the place of this amount of
money that we are requesting that we desperately need to fund this program for the entire
year.
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Mr. Andrews: The Day Care coordinator and Mr. Al Howard jointly prepared a budget that
represented $412,922.00 to carry out the Day Care Program for these three centers for a
year.
Mrs. Gordon: For additional funding.
Mr. Andrews: No this is for a full year Mrs. Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: That was based upon the original plan of the number of teachers per student.
We do not have enough funds. If we are cutting down the number of teachers per student
to half of what the quality care program should provide then that is what you got before
you but that is not what the program advisors advised us of what we should have.
Mr. Andrews: Well this provides about 1800 dollars per child participating in the program.
Mrs. Gordon: I wonder if it would be all right with you if we allow the administrator
of the program to speak to it, because perhaps I might not have all of the facts correct
maybe she can correct both of us. Is she here. Is the administrator here of the program?
Mr. Plummer: The Administrator probably can answer this. Maybe I've got some bad informati
Did I understand you or Anne to make the statement that we were going to have approximately
50 children per park?
Mr. Andrews: It was my understanding that there would be times that there would be a
greater number than 50 at each park and we were using a higher number to give the benefit
a doubt. Now if you are limited to the 50 and it's restricted to that then it's somewhere
near 24 or 25 hundred dollars per child.
Mr. Plummer: Well I would like an answer. Is it going to be 50?
: There will be 50 children per park. That's what we are lacking for.
Mrs. Gordon: Can you clarify please Miss Chandler some of the facts that I may or maynot
have correct or Mr. Andrews may or may not correct.
Ms. Chandler: Mr. Andrews, I think your budget meeting when you decided on the Day Care
of which I was not apart of and did not have any in -put information into the cuts as to
where it should occur. You can up with a figure (that's true). I did request $412,922
above what I was under the impression that $412,922 figure was above what I thought was
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coming back to the Tray Cate Program from the revolving fund of which we had $200,000 of
operating expense. I was not apart of your budget cut. I didn't know what had taken
place. When I did find out I tried to get this correct stated , but it wasn't . I
spoke with Mr. Howard about that and I think he knew my concerns about this. I was
not only cut of funds but I was also cut of needed personnel which I needed. Does that
answer your question?
Mr. Plummer: While she is here. I would like to ask another question of you? These
centers will operate of what hours?
Ms. Chandler: Seven.(7) in the morning until 6 in the afternoon probably later. It's a
eleven hour day. With most of our personnel are only on a 6 hour a day basis.
Mr.,Plummer: Are these programs proposed to run doing the summertime?
Mrs. Chandler: Yes, it's twelve months a year. That's priority -- working parents
so we have to meet_the needs of working parents.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mrs. Gordon: Ms. Chandler will you please tell me how much money you are short?
Ms. Chandler: I am short of about $75,000.00.
Mrs. Gordon: And that would bring your program up to quality?
Ms. Chandler: Yes it would.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you very much. And would that include the $40,000 that was removed.
Ms. Chandler: It would include the $40,000 that was removed plus the $30,000 that the
City Manager considered excess that was also taken out.
Mrs. Gordon: In other words the $75,000 will bring this to the quality program we anticip-
atice?
Ms. Chandler: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Ms. Chandler one final question if I may? As I read this put out by the
Manager the total funding of $387,079.00, are you saying beyond that figure $75,000 or are
you saying beyond the 4----
Ms. Chandler: I am saying beyond the $412,000. I have not seen the $387----
Mr. Plummer: You are saying $412,000 is what you think is there or should be there and
beyond that figure you need 75----
Ms. Chandler: Yes that's correct.
Mr. Plummer: All right. So in other words what you are asking for in the way of funding
then is $487,000.
Ms. Chandler: $487,000.
Mayor Ferre: Are we straight on the figures now Mr. Andrews?
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor it's very important that you notice that in that $412,000 there is
$100,000 that we are going to be receiving from a grant from the state. Is that correct
Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: And that was a grant that we discovered that we were eligible for in the month
of August. So you see that if it isn't that we discovered that and quite by accident we
wouldn't even have that $100,000 to count on.
Mayor Ferre: Thank God we have it. Thank you very much Ms. Chandler.
All right the next speaker. Mr. Emilio Lopez, there was a question that came up in the
Wyndwood area, so why don't you speak to it?
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Emilio Lopez: I been involved for a while in the Wyndwood area. We came to the city
and requested $40,000 to establish or remodel some churches so we will be able to
establish a couple of Day Care Centers. The Wyndwood areas you know always been excluded
of many of the problems of this city and again it seems that at this time we are going to
be excluded. Not only that they are not going to give us the opportunity to put in
operation this $40,000.00. In our first request we said that we will have with all prob-
ability the utilization of these monies by October 1st. But you know when you deal with
people there are times that things doesn't march the way that you'd like too. And if I
might take an example I will the use the City of Miami as there own Day Care Centers.
They were supposed to be opened a few months ago and they are still not operational. When
we find out that we are not going to be able to utilize those $40,000 in the schedule
time we requested. We requested a letter to the City of Miami that this time that they
would giving to us be extended, so we would be able to iron out our problems. I came here
today without any information and without any answers to our request. I find out that
this $40,000 has been put back into the general fund and we still have the probability,
not ---- we still can use the $40,000.00 for this purpose that we requested them.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Andrews do you want to respond to that?
Mr. Andrews: I recognize what has been said and I would ask the City Commission when
they are through reviewing all of these items for a suggestion that I have to make that
may partially help to fund this.
Mr. Plummer: 0f the 40,000 how many children will that take care of?
Emilio Lopez: That will take 60 children in one place and 30 children in another place.
Mr. Plummer: That's 90 children. Thank you.
Mrs. Gordon: J.L. could I tell you that this money is for capital improvements. The
County will be funding them for operational. This is already been agreed to by the County.
Mr. Plummer: Well that's fine Rose. I am just wonderingfyou know what it's going to
cost , that's all and how many people are involved. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right. The next speaker Mr. Tolbert, Little River Community School.
W.D. Tolbert: I am speaking for Urban League from Florida International University.
I am speaking for a proposed center in the town park. Central Avenue Area Apartments -
area called Overtown. About a year ago this Commission, four which are present voted
67,000 plus as an initial share of a joint development between Dade County and the City
of Miami. I see here that$67,610.00 have been removed and I didn't know that you could
remove something that the Commision had passed in appropriate session and put it back
into a budget without being duly notified. The records will reflect last year Mr. Andrews
about a year ago. I have the information on my desk which says $67,610.00 was voted as a
part of a $225,000.00 -one half payment on a half million dollar structure to cover
250 youths and I see it has been removed and placed back into the general fund. I didn't
understand how that could happen.
Mr. Andrews: Because no progress or no advancement of the program had been made whatsoever.
W.D. Tolbert: I would like to act to that by saying this, this I believe is one of the few
excellent opportunities for the City of Mimmi and Dade County to work together in their
project within the City of Miami. It was a proposed joint funding by the two governments
calling for a quarter of a million dollars each. We could not get off the ground with .
The sponsoring agent could not get going with architectural drawings, plannings, what have
you without some money in the bank. But once you begin to get involved in employing
architects and getting contracts some money has got to be in the back to pay somebody and
we were waiting for an additional funding. I believe at that time during the discussion
you said that the additional monies could come from another fund, which I believe Community
Development Act which will be forth coming. I respectfully request it from the Commission
asking for the Commission in session act and what his action would be incompetence upon
another Commission? And to all people who heard me raise that question here present except
one, we have a new Mayor, but all four(4) felt that what one Commission could say another
one would act to it. I am not too concerned about what's on paper but responsible men in
responsiblr positions. When they say they are going to do something, I believe they can
do without the contractual. So I was waiting for the additional money to make up the quarter
of a million dollars. Metropolitan Dade County is ready to move. We have a joint planning
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ConEnittee end I am just trying to say , where are we now.
Mrs. Gordon: Mt. Tolbert ate you saying then that the County has agreed to participate
providing that you have this original fund restored to you?
W,D.Tolbert: In fact the Count was kept waiting and waiting and they said if nothing
is going to happen we'll try to eohead and do something ourselves.
Mrs. Gordon! I see Dr. Slayton here. You are from the County aren't you, head of the
Child Development Program?
Wanda Slayton: I am Director of Child Care Program Development for Dade County and we
are planning to fund Dr. Tolbert's program in the Town Park Plaza and we were counting
on the City money to go with the money that we have allocated.
Mr. Andrews: We were not aware of that Mr. Mayor and we are anxious to get these monies
committed so that they could be spent and we felt we had no indication that this was
going to go ahead and therefore we re -programed it.
Mayor Ferre: You know it's important that we have communication on these things and I
don't mean to be critical of Metro. But (you know) don't take it for granted please.
W.D. Tolbert: Well, may I respectfully state that there been maybe too many communications
between office and City Manager rehash and recapping things and we kept praying for and
asking for and pleading for further information. We finally asked that they appoint
a liaison person and Ms. Anne Wilson was appointed the liaison person. Ms. Slayton has
been appointed the liaison person here and ready to go forward. We have already gone
forward to get blue prints. We have already gone forward for Urban Renewal to get the
transfer of title. We have a sponsoring agent. We have everybody cranked up to go but
the money in the bank to pay the contractor.
Mayor Ferre: Well Dr. Tolbert I might say that I've never noticed that Mrs. Anne Wilson
have any problems in communicating. So, why did we have this lack of communication?
Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask a question Mr. Manager. I put this on you to ask you why you
didn't communicate with them before you rebudgeted all of this money?
Mr. Andrews; We have communicated with them but we have not received any indication that
the money was going to be committed and they had another source to fund it.
Mrs. Gordon: When did you communicate with them?
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me Anne just for a moment? (Not to relating to discussion).
Anne Wilson: May I just say one thing. I got a letter from Mr. Hardy, I believe it was
in August saying that I've been appointed liaison between Mr. Tolbert and the City of Miami
and Metro and that's the last communication I got from the city. I got nothing else. No
direction as to what to do. Finally, Mr. Tolbert called me and we have gotten no other
direction, so we were at a little bit of a loss as to what to do. That's the only communicat
ion I ever had.
Mrs. Gordon: If you proceeded to try to try to develop -----
Anne Wilson: I was talking to Mr. Tolbert. I assumed that his funds were still there.
Mrs. Gordon: I always thought too Mr. Andrews that you told us that you carried these funds
over for more than one year that this wasn't an automatic ---- do or die at the end of the
first year.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Commission. This is turning out in a situation
in which the burden now apparently is on the City administration to keep asking these
people month after month how they plan to spend their money or at least submit a program.
From my memory I'don't have the file here. It was about two months ago that we communicated
with them making inquires as to the expenditures of these funds. I don't the city
should be put in that position. I think that after you granth the funds thev shouldikereepd.
pace as to what their needs are and keep communicating with the city and Keepep us
We grant the funds and then we -- are we going to be put in a position of - ---?
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Mayor Vette: It is certainly not the responsibility of the City of Miami to be
a watch dog as to how and when you are spending these funds, but I think it is
important that when there is a relationship between the City of Metro that there
be a responsibility established at the administrative level between our two
governmental bodies of communicating on a specific project.
Mr. Andrews: One of the communications that we did receive was from F.I.U. is that
not right? From F.I.U. indicating that they were one of the original sponsors that
you were going to go to from my understanding. We received communication that they
were not going to be involved in the sponsorship.
W.D. Tolbert: Well, Mr. Mayor there has been adequate communication. Mr. Andrews
is correct, there is no quest of communication in turns of letters but the question
was Florida Memorial College Sponsor Agent was getting ready to sign this respond
and agreement. In the City of Miami's contract they said there --- In the contract
we received around December of last year the revenue sharing contract had five very
stiff stipulations.the sponsoring agency must assume total responsibility to the
completion of the contract which is half a million dollars. How can a sponsoring
agency sign a piece of paper being total responsibile for half a million dollars
structure when one part of the government puts only $67,000 ------ ?
Mayor Ferre: All right Dr. Tolbert. I think we are repeating the same things over now
and there are a lot of other people who want to speak. I understand what the problem is.
I am sure the Manager does. And I think we are going to have to get into it and come
back with a solution.
W.D.Tolbert: Before I sit down the 67,000 is not the amount that was requested for half
of the capital outlay. Will the negotations include that sir?
Mayor Ferre: I can't answer that question. I think that this is something that the
Manager has got to get into and then eventually the Commission will have to establish the
policy on that, but we can't do it tonight.
W.D. Tolbert: I am asking, but I mean would the action - would the action will ypu-
directing him say, take into consideration the original proposal which asks for certain
funds?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. I have no objections and I am sure the Manager has no objection to
looking at the full spectrum of this thing. Is that right Mr. Andrews? All right.
Thank you very much. Now, who has not spoken in the Child Care Catagory wishes to
speak at this time? All right seeing nobody we'll now go to the Youth Catagory and the
first one that we will take is Item #10, Community Schools which is $56,500.00. Now
there are a series of eight(8). Little River Elementary, Silver Bluff Elementary,
Riverside Elementary, Primary Elementary, George Washington Carver, Shenandoah,
Kinloch and Citrus Grove Elementary. Now, haw many spokesman do we have for this program?
How many spokesman do we have on this program? Is there anybody here to speak on the
Community Schools requested $56,500?
Lou Tassey: I am with the School System on Community School Program and essentially the
recommendation I think that the City Manager made was in keeping with the recommendation
and the request that we had made to the City Manager and reduce somewhat. I think we had
asked for help on co-sponsorship of more community schools then what possible what we did
get. Essentially, the items that we asked for was what the City Manager recommended. I
think that the program is listed in the Youth Program Catagory and although we emphasize
program for youth and do serve more than 50% of the people. We serve our youth, it is
a program that also serves the parent and a an attempt to try to bring parents into the
program. We appreciate the co-sponsorhip that we've had with the city in the past and we've
injoyed a very good opportunity to work with you. We think we've helped to develop a very
fine program together and we would like to continue that partnership.
Mayor Ferre: Any questions?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, Dr. Tassey in the After School Care Program the Manager's recommend-
ation was for 200. The request was 235 or 238. Is that critical amount to you success
for completion of that program?
Lou Tassey: I think in lieu of the fact that the City Commission did earlier in the month
take some action that permitted us to use a fey thousand dollars that were left over from
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the last program and will continue into October that the amount of time that's already
been passed in this fiscal year. The reduction=seetins to appropriate and we think we
can live with that.
Mrs. Gordon: You can live with the $200,000 pre school location.lf you were to receive
allocation for any additional school how much would you need per school?
W.D. Tolbert: We estimate that you know the $200,000 for pre school that requested
$210 or 230, so one would be about a third of that which is about 75,000 in_that
neighborhood and we serve up to about 100 students per day twelve months of the year
and with the school day program during the summer
Is this Commission figuring the funds from (I don't know whether they
will or not) for additional schools, are you ready to implement any new schools?
W.D. Tolbert: I think the School Board would be willing to (you know) to request that
many and I have indication that their interest to continue to cooperate in every way
possible, but I don't make that decision they will have to accept it
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you very much.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute I would like to ask you a question? Has there been any effort
on behalf of the School Board, I think we all agree that this program is a very good
program. If they would in fact fund or co-sponsor this program.
Inaudible
Mr. Plummer: Under Community Schools we have the addition of eight(8) schools and the
program amount is $56,500 which was exactly what you requested. I heard you use the
figure of $200,000.00 What I am trying to get back to on the After School Program
that you say roughly cost about 75,000 per school. Now, is that the total amount or this
supplemented by the School Board.
Mr. Andrews: It is supplemented by the School Board and I can give you the amount for
each one. Silver Bluff Elementary - total $82,000 --
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Mr. Andrews: $82,000 for the City of Miami. $11,000 School System ---- $92,500
Mr. Plummer: That's for the After School ----
Mr. Andrews: Yes. Little River Elementary , the City of Miami Program is sponsoring
it is $50,000.00 is the total of their budget. School System will provide $8500; the City
will provide a budget of $7,000. The Carver Junior - the City will provide approximately
$60,000 and the School System $6,300 and it will make budget.
Mr. Plummer: All right, what I am getting at Paul - the question I'm asking you would
the School Board consider funding or co -sponsoring for this program to be expanded?
In other words, everybody keeps telling me what a beautiful program and I agree!
Mr. Andrews: I think that you need to be aware that we do provide a number of other
services to the program such as the staff, principal, co-ordinator, supervisor to prepare
the program and the other officers etc. and a number of other things that we provide to
support the program. Conversation?Inaudible)-----
Mayor Ferre: All right. The next item is Youth Co -Op - $85,000.
Rev. Reberto Man------: First part of conversation InaudibleIn the administration
there are about 25 citizens hired that have for the past three and one half months (311)
been working on a of this program working on the Substance Abuse Program
within the School System on a one to one basis to be experienced. We are also addressing
ourselves to those youngsters that have committed offenses have been sent to the Youth
Hall or State jail -----. With as much of the provisions of youth services we have
brought back 206 youngsters on a probation that they are to work with our peer
counselor --- one to one basistosee how they come into the community can be more
effectively helped. The one more aspect which is very important is that --------
--------- in this society that these children are growing up in. that these
families are getting from the main stream of our society by simply serving as a model
of what there children could be once they've helped and once they have developed into
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their own technology. The peer counselor is the Means that most people are
using now. That does not necessarily apply that these young people are the
same age. They are peered in the_sense that they've had the ethnic background,
the same of skilled background. Most of them are pondered to general hostile
where they are working. They are all from the Little Havana area ------
The have had the same kind of problems that these programs have today. We have
also promised to this area uniting families. The school system - abilities that
sometimes have to deal with these children. The difference that are going to
present some of these children could be helped . I am only this -----
brief concept that I have done allowing this in the name of God.-------- inaudible
Myria Goss: I live at I am been tremendously impressed tonight at the
number of Child Care Programs which are in the system I am the supervisor,
this is the Division of Youth Services. I think that this center in terms of -----
However we do have about 2500 of young people in Dade County. A good many of youths
are contained within the City of Miami itself, they are on probation at the present
time. As a formal probation officer this juvenile coutt are tremendously frustrated
so long with a lack of programs for young people we have probation are in-
sufficient in Dade County and more and more will be coming so excited about the idea
of using kids to help kids. I think they are talking to this program is that these
people belong to an observation and we are responsible are going to have an opportunity
to have some real identification. We are going to be able to have real models. Young
people who are successful working together saving young people who are going to be able
to see that they can do something and feel just as good by doing something right that
they can by doing something wrong. I had the opportunity of spending a weekend with
these young peer counselors in Dade Junior College at the Educated School for Boys.
We worked with approximately 10 youngsters at the School for Boys who have been
by the juvenile budget. This was a beautiful group that was curriculum
in terms of and identity with younsters at the School for Boys to assume
to be peer counselors. They are going to handle this individually. Some of them may be
involved in to us but anyway it is an extremely viable living program that I
say has a tremendous alternative in youth in In order to get them involved
possibly using the youth in take services as a probationary process so that these
young people can be reservedo the youth co-op program and not have to criminal justice
system, also beginning to work with various Police Departments. After learning to
consider the programa as it is set up for and to better youngsters; some have given up
hope. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask a question Mr. Mayor? Ms. Goss, is this program that you described
a program that will serves all of the City of Miami youth who fall under the category
of leaving this to understand it?
Ms. Goss: Right now, Mrs. Gordon it is Spanish Speaking youngsters.
Mrs. Gordon: Is there an additional program that takes care of other areas now?
Ms. Goss: No, we are hoping that this will serve as a pilot so that we can begin to
move further into other areas and work with other minorities. As well as the one pilot
who serves asetheir model as well.
Mrs. Gordon: Is your models paid or are they volunteers?
Ms. Goss: We do have a volunteer program. This is a division of youth services. But
it is harder to citizens into enrollment with young people. It is a whole
(paragraph Inaudible) ----- -------
Most of these people are volunteers in the things that they are dealing with to
For these particular young people-- most of them are going to school and they
have to work (most) at least part-time in able to subsidize their schooling and to help
maintain themselves. We are hoping to get funds or.a possiblity of getting them a
. In lieu of them having to go out and go to work. This will give them an
opportunity to spend more time with the youngsters and also with the family. Open -house
came into this ---- the parent of delinquent youngsters have come to our attention
have not been motivated and have not been able to identity particularly with anyone or
feel the need for counseling or even want too. And we are hoping that through the extra
time and envolvement that these young people can maintain that the parents will be motiv-
ated and will be able to identity with them and they will kind of serve as a liaison.
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Mr*. Cordons How many children are involved altogether?
Mi. Goeet Thirteen up to tventr-ore years of age.
Mayor Ferret How Many are envolved?
Rev. Roberto Men-----: We are hoping to have 210 plus their family, it's a total
population of approximately 630 people including families.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me ask you if you get support funding from Metropolitan Dade
County?
Rev. Roberto Man : Not yet. We have applied for it and
Mayor Ferre: Whereelseare you getting funds besides----?
Rev. Roberto Man---- : No where else at this time.
Mayor Ferre: So, this is it.
Rev. Man---: This is it.
Mayor Ferre: Have you been functioning now for ---- how long have you been functioning?
Rev. Roberto: We have since the latter part of June been organizing the kids through
training sessions and actually working with the population of 23 children since three
and a half weeks ago (31).
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you very much Reverend. I'd like to recognize now the
Edison Little River Self -Help Community Council Project Youth Elected Officers, are you
here? Are you still here? Well, I'll recognize you later on then if --- Next is item
#4, Big Brothers & Big Sisters - $20,000.
Mr. J. Finardi: Record Community Relation with Big Brothers and Big Sisters. Thank you
for the opportunity allowing us to speak here tonight. Basically, our program works with
young children, young people between the ages of 8 and 14 from single parent families.
Single parent families is a family where there is one parent in the household. If they
should be in that program that one parent is the mother and we provide for these children
a volunteer a big brother or a big sister to service their friend and they are confident
their adult image other than their single parent. We work with young boys by matching
them up with a big brother and young girls with big sisters. Our program in a big brother
or big sister movement where these little girls are also living in the same home with the
single parent mother. In many programs the child- young girl is placed in a situation
where she cannot go to the parent or other people in her life with her problems her needs
and this is where the big sister program comes in. We are asking the City of Miami to work
with us in a situation we call our out -reached program. This out -reached programing is
going into three specific areas of the community. Coconut Grove, Downtown Central and
the Latin Community. By establishing in these areas out -reach offices we can work direct-
ly with the parents and the children in developing the big brothers into the program.
We are preventative agency. We feel we work with the children before problems set in.
We offer the short-term counseling to the family. We do peer counseling . We do
counseling, we do tutoring. We work with the schools in trying to develop this child
into a good standing member of our community. At the present we have over 610 active
matches in our program and 400 kids on our waiting list. We know that in the City of
Miami there are over 20,000 children living in single parent situations. Now this is the
was the 1970 census. At the present divorce rate and situations of that- that number we
know has gone up. We are asking that the City of Miami work with us in reaching out
to about 600 more of these children through our out -reach programing. This is done by
placing a case worker, an impact director in the community and working with the parents
and the children on a one to one basis by developing with the community leaders and the
business leaders their help in establishing our program. Big Brothers and Big Sisters
in this community is about ten (10) years old now. And we are one of the largest Big
Brothers and Big Sisters Agency in the country today. But with only serving last year
about 1400 children. We are only scratching the surface of all the children we need
in Big Brother & Big Sister imput in our community. If I may ladies and gentlemen?
I have with me Mr. Jay Baum who is a member of our Board of Directors and a volunteer
in our program and Jay would like to say a few words for you and also just let me close
quickly. We are asking for $76,003 and this was to provide Social Workers for the free
area of the community. The $20,000 that was allocated to us would only allow us to work
in one section of the community, possibly the Downtown area and leaving out Coconut Grove
and the Latin Community. 1e
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Mayor Ferre: All right, t understand that you said you are leaving out Coconut
Grove and the Latin Community,
Mr, I, Finardi: The proposal that we submitted was with the three areas, Downtown
Central, the Latin Community and Coconut Grove. That was where the $76,000 funding
cane in.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Mrs. Gordon: How did you differ from the previous proposal that was requested of us?
That's the one ---
Mr. J. Finardi: Same proposal.
Mrs. Gordon: Same proposal.
Mr. J. Finardi: Right, but basically at the proposal we didn't have a chance to really
discuss what more that our program does just one to one matching..
Mr. Jay Baum: Thank you. I am a volunteer Big Brother and on the Board of Directors at
Big Brothers and Big_Sisters of Greater Miami. I been a volunteer of Big Brothers for the
last six years and during that period of time have been matched with three different little
brothers and I'd like to address myself to the effectiveness of this type of match. I
have seen these boys where an 8 year old who father had passed away. My association with
him on a one to one basis has been effective in bringing this child out of his great shock,
his great loss, suffering. I been a member of the Board of Directors and I am now chairman
of the Finance Committee and have seen the proficient operation that this agency has
shown both through. their work with the children and their handling of their financial
matters. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor for the record I think it should be read that the Manager has
indicated that for the $20,000 and I am reading from his memo:The program will be
concentrated from primarily in the Central Miami area. I think that should be made very
clear. Well, but it's in the memorandum that it wasn't deceived or trickery. It was
known. Ok.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you. The next speaker is the Urban League, New Skills
Bank - Mr. T. Willard Fair.
Mr. T.Willard Fair: I am the Executive Director of the Urban League of Greater Miami.
The address is 7790 N.W. 7th Avenue. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. It is noted that the
Revenue Sharing consortium received request in the amount of 5.9 million dollars. That
the available funding provide a broad spectrum of services throughout the community was
only 1.1 million dollars. It is further noted by the Urban League that this consortium
was charged with task of accepting proposals submitted by individuals or institutions
in the broad community of Dade County. Are we evaluating these proposals and of making
recommendations to the Commissioners of the City of Miami? Recommendations as to what
individuals and or institutions should be funding. Since the city made available the
total amount of 1.1 million dollars. Forty-two programs proposals have been submitted
by 31 agencies. Of the total proposals submitted 20 projects are being recommended for
funding. Careful examination of these recommendations and comments made by those who
made that examination has triggered in the Black community a catalytic response. Quest-
ions have been raised as to making available to the community all relativeinformation
on the c:riterial used in funding proposals. The system used for data collection. The
seeming inquftous in funding distribution. Duplication and fragmentation of programs,
in short the validity of the consortium assessment process. There is another major area
of concern. It is apparent that somewhere in this process some individuals or groups,
arranged or rearranged a scale for priorities. 0n this scale of priorities, Child Care
and Youth Services occupy position number one. The question here of course is equity.
Who established this priority, based on what evaluation and approved by who?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fair, who much longer do you think this will take you3
Mr. T. Willard Fair: Mr. Mayor, I think this is significient enough. It will take me
only about 3 or 4 more minutes, please. I will not continue to deal in genealogists.
More germane to the issues here raised are some specific examples of major concerns and
I think you should be aware of these before vote anyway.
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The Social Services as stated on the covet of the City Manager's inter -office
memorandum involved a broad spectrum of services throughout the community ti Your
recommended allotment, however, Paul reflect a deferential of the total point 1.1
million dollars. $3700000 or 25% for youth, $145,000 or 12% for the elderly.
$309,000 or 27% in the general category. And one of the six projects in the general
category could be classified in the youth category. The above figures deal with
a percentage of monetary distribution among the categories. But proposed project
distribution is another interesting area with 13 or 65% of the 20 projects in the
child care youth categories being funded. What we are concerned about is the fact
that we who are concerned about the Black and the poor do not feel that the recommend-
ations of the total package. Not just the Urban League, Skills Bank does justice to
the poor and the Black constituency of the City of Miami. We cannot Mr. City Manager,
understand how a proposal submitted by Mode1Aity Development Sports Corp. for $190 plus
dollars is refunded or a recommendation made to be funded at the resounding sum of
$6,500. If the program has merit it should be funded totally, if it does not have
merit then $6,500 will do it no good. We cannot understand how we say in our comments
about the Tacolcypr'oposal that it does not have merit, that is duplicatory , that a
feasiblity study can be done elsewhere and requested $90 some odd thousand dollars
and we gave them a recommendation of $10,000 feed money. That is unfair to Black and
poor people. Finally, the Skills Bank Mayor, $75,000. The Urban League has always
asked for more then it knows it's going to get. We requested $675,000 worth of proposals
to be funded. We got $75,000. Thank you for that recommendation. However, the reason
we feel that we did not get any more is backed on the comment in the document that you
have before you. Those comments are: We do not have enough information about the job;
job descriptions of said proposal in order to adequately make a recommendation to the
Consortium. Well, Mr. Mayor nobody requested it from me. job descriptions to make that
kind of decision. If that is part of the decision making process . Then I as the sub-
mittor of the proposal should have been made aware of that. We questioned a total process
used to determine how we are going to involve ourselves in the human resources arena. If
we are going to be meaningful about Social Welfare Programgihen we cannot give $10,000
to an autonomous club to march around not in 1974 when the issue is meat and potatoes.
I would hope that if the issue is After Care that then say that is the #i1 priority. And
the $75,000 that you proposed for the Skills Bank of the Urban League toward After Care.
I don't think that we've set the priorities and until we set the priorities. We certainly
have no right to make any allocations. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fair, don't go this may not be over yet.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. I heard your comment about the Urban League asked
for $675,000. The figures given to us was request funding of $150,000. Is that just the
Skills Bank.
Mr. T.Willard Fair: Just the Skills Bank. You got a $250,000 proposal for street academy
in the Latin Community. We had a extension of a ---
Mr. Plummer: Ok. I -- that was the discrepancy. The other question is approximately
how many people would be reached by this $75,000?
Mr. Fair: $75,000.00 coming from your program will be covered with some resources from
other programs. Namely, the governors discretionary point on Manpower and the Dade County
Mr. Plummer: How many people would be affected or reached by this program?
Mr. Fair: We pose to reach approximately 300 people served through our Skills Bank
concept within a 12 month period.
Mrs. Gordon: Total or just from our 75.
Mr. Fair: No. this would be total.
Mayor Ferre: What would the total budget be for that?
Mr. Fair : For that total program in the Skills Bank. It looks like now Maurice its
going to be 75 +40 which is 110 + 10 which is 130. It's going to $145,000.to reach
300 people.
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Mayor Ferret All right. -:Now, Mr. Andrews I think Mr. Fair has really brought out
a subject which I am sure we are going to have to get into in the Commission and I
think that you as the chairman of the group that reviewed this really have got to
answer whether it's now or later on. But I think it's of significient challenge
if you will or request. Because what he is talking-to is the approach and the
system that we used in this. Now, I might point out that ladies and gentlemen,
I am sure you all know that we had to establish a better system then what we have
in the past. Because in the past we tried to get a Revenue Sharing Committee which
was headed by Miami Citizens and I well remember Father Gibson for one making, I
think a very, very pointed comment as to how foolish it was for this City to appoint
this committee and then not pay attention to any of the recommendations. So this
year -rather than go ahead an appoint another committee . We decided that the rec-
ommendation of many civic leaders in Miami.we would try to approach it in the most
professional way we could and the most professional way we could was to get a comm-
ittee - a people that were knowledgable in Social Services and therefore we thought
that between the expertise of Metropolitan Dade County and the expertise of the
United Fund and our own in-house expertise that we could get the best professional
advise as to where the funds should go. Now, you are not questioning that procedure
are you?
Mr. Fair: I am questioning that procedure because you say professionals. Let me give
you an example.of that degree of professionalism. All right. The major question, do
the same individuals that read an evaluate the projects also write the recommendations?
If so, how do ------ state and I mean in the proposal your comments that one project
example, Model City Sports Development will be a duplication of the services of the
County and City parks and recreation and the public school board and then proceed to
fund that project for 3% of what was asked. How can we further state that same prof-
essional that Belafonte Tacolcy Center can receive the technical assistance necessary
for feasibility study from two existing agencies that you can't determine any concrete
services in their proposals and that was stated by those professionals, but fund them
at 10% of requested money? Now, either project is not worth a damn or it is?
If it's worth damn then fund if it's not then give the money to After Care or give
it to the Skills Bank of the Urban Leage.
Mr. Andrews: I have responses for both of those and some more information I think that
Mr. Fair and the City Commission should be aware of. This obviously, was not an easy
task trying to determine how to pro rate if you will and deploy funds to the best possible
use. Frankly, we in the City of Miami, United Fund and Dade County were going to work
with the Urban League to re-evaluate precisely how you would use the $75,000 to insure
that it provided maximum services. To be specific about the $6,500 rather than not
provide any funds at all we conceived of the possibility that another community school
program could be initiated through the school board using these funds as a point of
beginning in which this community school program for the sports activities would be
operated in a slightly different way than any of the community school programs that they
have now under way and it would concentrate soley on athletics and sports. It would be
devoted to the matter. The other area of the $10,000 for the Tacolcy Center, I think is
another program in which the City is making available and entire building facility for the
Tacolcy Center to operate. In addition to that we would now be making a contribution to-
ward the operation of the program that are being carried on in the Tacolcy total program.
One again I think that the City may have to participate in addition to the $10,000.00 to
assist them and direction as to how best to spend that $10,000.00 in order to secure the
best possible Social Services Program that can develop. Now, after those initial under-
takings and perhaps an additional direction is taken as to the kind of programs that they
will be undertaking at Tacolcy. Then perhaps more money can be allocated after that in
the second year to support there programs.
Mr. Fair: Paul, I accept it. All I am saying is you know that at the cost of services,
salaries, etc. today $10,000 wouldn't scratch the surface. So the issue becomes to be
benevolent Tacolcy or do we fully program in the area of priority as defined by this
community in this awful spot.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, in fairness to Mr. Fair I'd like to say this because my staff
is at least acquainted with this when I came back from the meeting with United Fund and
with Mr. Goode. I indicated to them the reason that we were going to provide some alloc-
ation for this was the City's interest in this area in trying to assist in that area and
at least we didn't say that no money should be funded. And I wish it could be a little
bit more but we have to try to distribute 6 million 300 thousand dollars worth of requests
over a 1 million 100 thousand dollars worth of funds that are available.
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Mr. Feir: What it points out my primary concern that is with that kind of supply
and demand formula, where are our priorities?
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Andrews how do you answer this question about you were not able to
evaluate the job? It seems to me that if you were coming to Christ Church and trying
to evaluate the work of the priest there, since I'm the priest somebody have to talk
to me.
Mr. Andrews: Well, the only answer I have for that is in an effort to try to reasonably
distribute these funds that were available among these categories and there were no
specific priority placed on these categories. We placed these categories in the order
only because we recognized there may be many children here in the beginning so that the
Commissioners could have discussed those programs. But we did attempt to distribute on
a reasonable basis these monies to mixed organizations that handled Blacks, Latins, and
Anglo-Saxons. Black people by themselves where there is density populated area and also
the Latin community.
Rev. Gibson: That isn't my question. My question is if you were trying to determine
whether or not the job was being done or they anticipated job would be so that you
could evaluate it. The only way you could get that information is to go to the people
... involved. Now, the man in his presentation said, at'no'time was he ever asked.
How do you explain that?
Mr. Andrews: Well, we did not attempt to go back to each one of the organizations that
presented us with their program and further evaluate their program at this time and we
recognize that the Belafonte Tacolcy Center program had potentially many good elements in
it. We were not prepared to go back and try to design a program for them at this time
or to suggest ways or work with them in the expenditure of these funds. So we had proposed
to do this after the allocation process.
Rev. Gibson: Well, let me put it the other way and I am not badging you because I just
want an answer. I am not talking about changing the program. I am not talking about
evaluating the program. I am talking about the job description. Now the only way the
bishop could decide whether I'm getting an adequate salary he's got to find out what I'm
doing. That's what he said. Isn't that what you referred too? Read the statement again.
Mr. Fair: No, I can give you the statement.
Rev. Gibson: Ok. give me the statement.
Mr. Fair: The statement is that in reference to several of our projects where you have
the press and you have salaries,then you have comment -page 26, I believe, Mr. City Manager.
It states that we could not make any recommendations, etc., because we did not have job
descriptions. What I am saying to you and as the submitter of that proposal had someone
said to me this looks good what we really need is a missing piece in that job description
I could have immediately have gotten that over to those who were evaluating my proposal.
That was never done. In one case in reference to another program. A ownership and city
program a comment by professional staff was, we At the United Way do not have any exper-
tise in this field. That's not my fault that they are dumb and ignorant as it relates
to homeownership and programs . If they are then we have to be an expert in the
Urban League, they should of told us we then could have provided them with the necessary
expertise in order to recommend that those $200,000 be forth coming.
Mayor Ferre: I want to thank you once again for your ---- and your intelligent comments.
Mr. Fair: It's always a pleasure Mr. Mayor. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen we are about to continue. The next speaker will be
for the Belafonte Tacolcy Center. Who will represent the Tacolcy Center. Is there
someone here for the Tacolcy Center?
Mr. Otis Pitts,Jr.: I am the Director of Tacolcy. I assumed that Directorship in
'July of this year. Prior to becoming the Director of Tacolcy. I worked for the
City of Miami as a Police Officer for 41 years. I worked in the area in which Tacolcy
is presently located. I grew up in that area. I resigned my job as a Police Officer
because I found for the first time I felt I was doing an adequate job in that area.
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We requested a total of $190,000. We were awarded $10,000. The project ------
I think requested $97,000.00 was funded by the City fof 4 months from October of
last year and 4 months (I believe - February or March of this year for the $14,500.00
for 4 months. Tot try to continue that program for a full year on $10,000.00 just
doesn't seem possible. We have been operating the program since the City has discont-
inued its funding and we have picked up an additional 150 youths. We identified that
many youths and we have now and have them now in school.
Mayor Ferre: Pitts, how many people are actually servicing this program?
Mr. Otis Pitts,Jr: Without any funds at all we've serviced 150 youths since these
funds have been discontinued. There were several comments made by the panel that
reviewed our proposal. I will not allude to each one specifically, but I will like
to say this that there they have been some problems in terms of i------ of that
proposal. But as Mr. Fair mentioned earlier we were not contacted by that panel.
We were not told to further explain or break down the proposal or whatever. So we
had no way of responding to that. Since those kind of technical things were mentioned
has a reason for our program not being funded fully. I felt we could have satisfied
that had we been contacted. We have a Senior Citizens Program has been operating now
since the funds discontinued in our gift shop services. There are approximately 28
Senior Citizens involved. Presently the staff is all volunteer persons. They are
denoting their money, their time to the projects that they are making are if they are
making or gifts that they are making they are presently putting them in stores as aid-
ing their income.Helping them to market the items. We would like some funds to continue
that project. These projects already into existence I am not asking to implement any-
thing. The committee wants some support for these projects. I can't see how the panel
reviewed this could very well just cut these programs out all together. In essence that's
my comment. I think that we are not adequately funded.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. Are there any questions?
Mrs. Gordon: Question, Mr. Mayor the Senior Citizens that you have involved in your
program. What involvement do they have?
Mr. Otis Pitts,Jr.: They are involved in what we call our recreational component and
we have them making handicrafts. We have purchased two machines.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean like an activity center program, is that what you are saying?
Mr. Pitts: Yes, more or less, but however the items that they are making we are present-
ly placing those items into stores and the money that's been utilized. They are utilizing
that money to take trips to even supplement their income.
Mrs. Gordon: Is it self substaining you mean, the Senior portion is self substaining
from their craft? Are they substaining the program?
Mr. Pitts: What we are saying in essence is this -.we are providing a staff, that's
strictly volunteers. We would like to be able to maintain a staff that could continue
to provide this service. And we can't do that without having some funds ourselves.
Mrs. Gordon: I see, I see.
Mr. Pitts: We were just fortunate enough to happen to have some people in the community
that was concerned enough to do that.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you trying to enlarge it. Is that it?
Mr. Pitts: We could have a permanent staff to deal with this. We could more adequately
deal with that problem and of course it would include more people. More Senior Citizens.
in this program.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you have a hot meal program there?
Mr. Pitts: We have a program there for the young people.
Mrs. Gordon: Not for the seniors?
Mr. Pitts: No we do not. We would like to expand that service if we could.
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Mayor Ferre: All right. het me ask you what other funding are you getting besides
the City funding?
Mt. Pitts: We have funding - some contingency fund from Model Cities.
Mayor Ferre: How much you gained from Model Cities?
Mt. Pitts: Well at the present we are trying to contract now to put one coordinator
and 4 youth assistants in recreation.
Mayor Ferre: How much money is that?
Mr. Pitts: Approximately $30,000.00.
Mayor Ferre: Besides this 10. IS that what you get you would be counting on $30,000
hopefully from Model Cities. How much was your budget last year?
Mr. Pitts: Our budget last year -- we received $50,000.00 from the City. 0f course that
fiscal period would be from October of last year until March of this year as far as the
City money is concerned. Other than that the remaining consisted of private denotations.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you very much. The Y.M.C.A. Item # 7-A.
Dr. R. Morrall: Honorable Mayor and honorable Commissioners. At the outset may I ask
you to accept our gratitude for inviting usto appear before you. We feel somewhat
pleased and at the same time a little awkward. I say please because we feel that we are
among friends fortunately, I mean all the honorables Commissioners. Now our operation
I think maybe Mr. Plummer maybe thankful that we can't got a Caballero Rivero in our
managing board. There is no competition there. Our own Honorable Reboso has I think
tried to recognized our work but we haven't given him the opportunity. The Rev. Gibson
have shared us with the privilege and honor of reciting and participating as a matter
of fact in special scout ceremonies, like eagle scout and solemn ceremonies we have down
there and of course the blossy bi-lingual, honorable, Commissioner Rose Gordon. I said
blossy she is making very good progress., has already broken bread with us and as a
matter of fact she make the distinction part time by giving us the key to the City of
Miami, which you see we haven't used because we have appeared in here before you today.
Well, the other awkward parties really that we have never come to this awkward body for
any help. Because since we were founded we've had a board of management of more than
20 or more - men and women who have tried to always finance all our programs, which we
think at any rate is one of the best programs that particular minority group that we
serve (the Latin group). Because when we have appeared here has been really to help
other organizations to speak for them. But unfortunately, this thing that is called
now #1 enemy which is inflation has eaten so much into our operation that we find our-
selves this year a little bit short because as you know the amount that we are actually
requesting is a very small amount. But we want to jeopardize any of the programs which
we are conducting in our organization. We know that we are in this situation because
we haven't raised any fees, any dues, any prices, because we think that we must serve
that group of our community exactly in the way that we are doing it. Because they are
people who have really of the very modest income. Otherwise they would go to other
as you know. And because we have stopped through the idea that we must serve
this minority in the easiest and best way possible. We find ourselves in a little
tight situation, shall we say? And that we would like very much and that's why we come
before these honorable commission to see whether there is any possibility within your
means to help us out so that we may continue to serve this minority community and to
in no way affect the many programs which we are already doing for this particular
group of people. And may I thank you again for having us here.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any questions?
Rev. Gibson: I want to acknowledge where you said I was at the program. So you got
me dead to the right on that.
Dr. R. Morrall: Reverend we are Christians we can't lie.
Mayor Ferre: Don Nicholson, I might add a very distinguished public servant in our
community, served as Mayor of our Sister City, a little bit to the North - Miami Shores
and we are happy to have you here.
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associated with vandalism in particular and if we are able to do that we will be
I would think a long way toward getting Northwestern on it's feet.and t would
appreciate any help that the City could give:in this area.
Mrs. Gordon: Ate you saying the amount that is scheduled is what you are asking us
to approve, is that what you are saying?
Mr. Edward E. Abney: I am saying not that this is the amount that we would ask for
but we could accept this and actually begin something at Northwestern. I think in
terms of what we really need would probably be much more. I have written a letter
to the City Manager in terms of our needs at Northwestern . Immediate needs and the
School Board also has provided some of these needs in terms of tennis courts, and
also hand ball courts, which will be up in the near future. One of the things that
we have is a disadvantage at Northwestern is the fact that there are no lights on the
outside so that the youngsters in the evening hours could play. Instead of playing
and often times they end up vandalizing much of the school playing. And I would like
to somehow change that by providing recreational specialist there to work with them
as well as light on the outside of the school in order for them to play.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean on the fields or on the streets.
Mr. Edward E. Abney: On the fields in particular.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Are there any other questions? Thank you very much.
Before we recognize the chairman of the Model Cities Program here. I would like to ask
a favor of everyone here present. Mr. Nathaniel Dean who is a well recognized and
effect public servant in our community lost his father this afternoon and despite the
fact that his father passed away. He is here tonight because of his sense of responsibility
to people. I think that that's something that should be publicly recognized. I would
like for all of us just to stand for one minute of silent prayer for Mr. Dean's father.
Mr. Dean — you have Model City Sports Development Program where you requested $171,420.00
the committee is recommending an appropriation of $6,500.00. Want to speak to that?
Mr. Nathaniel Dean: Mr. Mayor there was a proposal that was put in by the previous Sports
Development Program which Model Cities had funded. You know Model Cities were supposed to
fading out after we had this last 75 million which you all passed a resolution to help us
get the last bit of money. Since then the last 75 million that was released. We received
1.2, we also received 1.9 of the community development money which Dade County got 23 million
dollars coming. Now the Yodel Cities program had to sort of say to other agencies,
pick up the rest of these programs which we cannot fund any longer. So we said to the
City of Miami, please consider picking up the Sports Development Program which have done
a job which at the time I had invited you all out to the first historical that the City
Commissioners have had at the Allapattah Junior High School. You have seen what the
young kids could do. This is one reasons why this program had been submitted for funding.
Now $6,500 could not do the job for a Sports Development program under no circumstances.
The County did allocate $23,000 only to serve in the unincorporated areas of Dade County.
Now that would be no sports development in the city limits of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: How much money do you feel would be the minimum amount you could carry out
a effective program?
Mr. Nathaniel Dean: I think that about another $70,000.00.
Mayor Ferre: You mean another 70 on top of the $6,500.
Mr. Nathaniel Dean: Thank you very much you are right on target.
Mayor Ferre: You sound like Mr. Fair now.
Mr. Nathaniel Dean: Well, I think they've let me learn about money and how to handle
you know and certainly my concern as well as yours are people.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Are there any questions of Mr. Dean? Thank you very much
Mr. Dean for taking the time under these trying circumstances.
Mx. Nathaniel Dean: All right. Thank you all very much for your kindness. Thank you
very much Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: All right. Now ladies and gentlemen we have a standing unwritten
rule around here that we ,always take out of turn people who are serving ih•
public office. t did not do that today, because I thought it was appropriate
to take the children and the youth programs first. Nov as I understand it there
are no other youth programs to be presented tonight. Is that correct? Then..I
am going to recognize Dr. Ben Sheppard of the Dade County School program as I
said we extend these courteous in these governing bodies. Dr. Sheppard my apologies
that we've kept you waiting 21 hours. I hope you understand.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: I don't understand it. I remember we took you right of the bat
when you came in didn't we?
Mayor Ferre: I know Dr. Sheppard, but there was a matter here and a lot of children
and we had and once we got into the idea that we had to listen to the children and
the youth.we had to do it. and I apology.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: I am just kidding. I enjoyed this. Because it gives me a run down
on what we go through at the school board. Unfortunately, we get tired at the last
hour or two and we jam through about twenty things without thinking too much about it.
I am here to thank you for first for considering the recreation center in the 0vertown
or Downtown Rec Center and giving us $100,000.00 for that $100,000.00 you are getting
about 1 million dollars worth of service because we have at the present time. We have
at least 360 registered members. We are planning to serve meals, expanding to serve
snacks per day. We hope to expand to go over the 8 P.M. limit and I've asked the man
who handles this more directly to just say a few words.
Mr. J.E. Smith: The 0vertown recreation center was funded last year by the City of Miami
Commission in revenue sharings. And since that it was funded we opened in June. We had
Children coming into this center before it was even completed. We have over 360 children
registered. We have daily activities. Not only recreation, but in other culturual
programs. We are also involved into some things. 0n Monday we will start the
After School Food Program and serve some 150 suppers a night and 150 snacks a day to
children in the downtown area. Some of the staff members from the center are here. They
also spend their time on weekends taking children on field trips and so forth. It
been an exceptional successful program and we thank you for considering it again.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: I can thank you for you giving us 30,000 less than we asked for though
because you are getting about 250,000 service and you are giving us only 100,000. The
archbishop is going to dry up his bank account pretty soon then what'll I do? We have to
close the place down.
Mrs. Gordon: Can we at least give you a compliment? We think you are doing a great
job.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: A lot of my children (the Big Brothers) I don't know where Lou Tassey
is but he and I started Big Brothers in Dade County back in the 60's. Tassey and I
started the Community School in 61 .
Mayor Ferre:: Dr. Sheppard don't start naming now all of the things you started or
we are going to be here all night.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask Dr. Sheppard this question. You made mention of the fact that
you were going to be serving approximately 150 children starting Monday. What would be
the capacity of your facility?
Dr. Ben Sheppard: As soon as we get the second floor completely renovated practically
limitless. My idea is to keep this open later at night than we are doing. I'd like to
see it going up to about midnight. If we keep it open until midnight then we are cert-
ainly going to get the young people in that I was primarily interested in when we asked
you to give us the fire house. As it is now generally it's an 8 P.M. closing and I
would like to go further than that?
Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Sheppard is there any other sources of funding available for your
program?
Dr. Ben Sheppard: Just the arch dioceses.
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Mrs. Gordon: Well, I am speaking of federal or state.grants that might be
available that we could turn to maybe through.the city to search for that kind
of extra money for your program because you have a tremendous need there to
serve this community.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: We are starting to search around to find other funds but this
is probable will be the show place for the south.r,I can easily that the way it's
going. I want to talk briefly about a program which was totally admitted and that
is the Miami bridge.
Mayor Ferre: Now Dr. Sheppard just so that everybody understands now. This is a
second program called the Miami bridge and the request was for $200,000 and not a
cent has been provided for that.
Dr. Ben Sheppard: And a man - a gentlemen by the name of Maurice Ferre denotated
a hotel to us. That's on record. We have spent about $25,000 to $30,000 getting
the thing ready to meet all of your new building requirements. Every time I turn
around there is a differnt fire inspector there and it-- We obeyed the fire
inspectors - they'll say that we do. They told me to close down a place and we
closed it down within 24 hours . Moved all the kids out because they thought it
was a fire hazzard and we did it for them within 24 hours, but that's not part of
the problem here. The problem is that I'd like J. Edward Smith to speak to this a
little bit because the proposal. There is no run way house. There is no run -to
house. This is a run to house and you have an estimate according to your own
police chief for_10,057 hundred run away kids. We presently have 21 run aways in
there now and we can easily handle 25 to 30. Now the question is why was this the
reason given and I'd like ----- the reasons given in the comments here for it being
admitted are not factual----
J. Edward Smith: Thank you Doctor. I live at 3290 N.W. 7th St., Miami, Florida.
With reference to the common section comment number one difficult to adequately
review request with budgetary job descriptions and job qualifications. While such
was requested for the 0vertown Recreation Center and forwarded to Mr. R ig i llio
office within one day of its request. Such was not requested of the Miami Bridge
proposal. #i2. Metro Comprehensive Drug program reports the Miami Bridge is not a
member of their program. This is an irreverent fact and it has no bearing on the
status on the Miami Bridge being a member of the Metropolitan Dade County Comprehensive
Drug Program reference might be made to the fact that the Metropolitan Dade County
Drug program does fund a run to house which is funded by Nighter the National Institute
on Drug Abuse, but they must treat strictly drug abuse clients. This program does not
have to meet the requirements of the Bureau of Drug Abuse prevention for the state.
#3 there is no estimates of the number of persons served in our package proposal on
page 11. The problem defined statistics are given relative from the Miami Police Depart-
ment and we state that we will relieve the City Police Department of 25% of run away
and vagrant casesthepopulation is defined by 25% of the total for 1973 of 1057.
Also it indicates on the same page 11 of our report that we intend to treat these
clients on the 20th for our basis and it also indicates their ages giving a total
population. #4 the proposal states that the housing requires permission of a legal
guardian. This could create a problem in serving runaways. I would submit to you
Mr. City Manager a letter which was forwarded to Mr. Rigillio from the Honorable
Donald Stone and Judge Stone stated his endorsement of the program as a growing need
quote, as a growing need for alternative placement facilities for pre -delinquent and
delinquent children in our community. Dr. Sheppard as a formal court judge, I think
he'd probably address himself to that need also. Statement #5, the City of Miami
Chief of Police states the program should be beneficial to the Miami Police Department
by providing temporary quarters for transient juveniles until their transportation
home is arranged. This is the only positive comment statement and if indeed Chief
Garmire's letter and comments bear any reckoning then we will be serving 25% of the
clients of variance and runaway youth and we should request an expect to receive fund-
ing from the Commission. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Andrews, would you speak to that point please? The point is if I under-
stand correctly that he has a letter from Chief Garmire stating that this program could
alleviate 25% of the problems of the youths of runaways and things of that nature and
that this program was not given any dollars to work with and I would like you to speak
to that point if you would.
Mr. Andrews: Well it was a matter of applying criteria as to the distribution
of these funds.
Mr. Plummer: But 1 would like for you if it's possible to be more specific where
this seems to be a program of need and here we have one of our administrators
recomMending the program to alleviate some City problems and this didn't get the
donate delegated to it.
Mrs. Gordon: J.L. how about contracting with the Police Department, let it come out
of their budget?
Mr. Andrews: We could eliminate some Police Officers and do this.
Mr. Plummer: Boy you hit right to the gut issue.
Mr. Andrews: Well its 90% Police Officers.
Mr. Plummer: Well ok Paul. Would you answer my question?
Mr. Andrews: I think that the best way to answer this total question is that we have
1 million 100 thousand dollars. 10% of all those monies follow to this one organization
to service them.
Mr. Plummer: I understand. I understand.
Mr. Andrews: And if you wish we can take and have $50,000.00 made available for the
carrying out of the Drug Rehabilitation Program that they carry out at the fire house,
$50,000.00 in this program. See - there is no denying that there's need in all these
areas.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask it in reverse. Was there any reason why you did not fund this
program?
Mayor Ferre: Didn't have enough money.
Mr. Plummer: Besides that.
Mr. Andrews: It was truly difficult to try to fully evaluate the effect that this
program would have. We are not that experience that we could predicate that the service
factor would be that great.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. That's what I am getting at.
Mayor Ferre: Let's get back to Father Gibson's question.
Father Gibson: Let me ask you a question Mr. Andrews. I want to ask the same one of
you now as I ----- How are you going to assess the job these people are going to do
unless you talk with them. You know, I don't mean you. Somebody on the City staff
was charged with the responsibilty of gathering this information for you. Now either
they got it or they didn't get it. You see what troubles me is and the comment sidet
your projects. See if I were going to vote I would have to vote well--- we had no
measure by which to you know reckon this business. We couldn't evaluate it and then
I would say well man if you can't evaluate then I can't vote for you. You see what
I mean. Now, so the comment puts me in a rather awkward position.
Mr. Andrews: Sure, I understand that and I think that perhaps if I tell you that if
we had 3 or 4 million dollars to expend we would have gone into many other areas far
more carefully than we have. Now, --- I know it's not the question, but you have to
appreciate that in going through all of these presentations as to area of need it was
quite evident that there was need in certain areas and we attempted to allocate that
money based on -----
Father Gibson: That's wonderful but that's still not right. You see if we were going
to make the final judgment we would have to make the final judgment on the facts present-
ed to us. Now, if I am going to vote unless you had said what you said and this came out
I would be voting well- now the reason I am not going to vote to give you that money is
because you didn't do your job, you didn't properly advise me and tell me how I am going
to check up on what you are doing and all we are saying is and please don't take this
as being critical. I think that out of fairness if we are going to make these judgment
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I would much rather have had all of that - all the good things said and then let
it all hang out. Now you are surprised to hear the priest say "let it all hang
out ", but that's the only way I know to put this. Let it all hang out and then
I would of had to made valued judgment. Then I would hope if and when a similar
situation comes up that we would be better off if this were not said about a
program. So that it doesn't prejudice my mind or color my thinking before I vote.
This is all I am saying.
Mayor Perre: Well let's get back to the question, because I think it keeps coming
up and it's something really I thank we have to address ourselves to Mr. Andrews and
that is if we if we because out of frustration for lack of assistance followed your
advise and turned to what we thought would be a professional approach. If we turned
this job over to you and you in turn were involved with a committee representing the
United Fund and Vito Rkaillio was here a little bit earlier. He said he would come
back, he'd go out to dinner and come back. And the County Manager's then shouldn't
this Commission in fact depend on your professional evaluation of each and every
program and doesn't that necessarily require a more indifinite investigation of these
programs and what leaves me completely at a loss and really concerned and sadden by
what I hear is that a program like Miami Bridge was not even looked into because -
you know, we took care of Dr. Sheppard's need with the 0vertown Recreation Center.
I get the feeling that we said well ok Dr. Sheppard gets 100,000 out of a million
that's 10% - you know and that's it. Rather than saying well you know we also have
the Miami Bridge and we've looked into it and so and so you know give us a categorical
type of professional evaluation and that's what I think T.Willard Fair was talking too.
That's what you are talking too. That's what Emilio was talking about. And that's the
question that you keeping asking. See - it's just how we went about it we seem to
be concerned about it.
Dr. Sheppard: Mr. Mayor, I can recall the time when you came up to the School Board
and asked for the School Resource Officer and we gave you $250,000.00 out of our
Contingency fund. Remember.
Mayor Ferre: I remember Dr. Sheppard. That's one time he has a memory when he needs it.
Huh.
Dr. Sheppard: I also remember you left the room when I mentioned Chief Garmire too.
Mayor Ferre: Now - let's not get into that.
Mrs. Gordon: Where is the location of this going to be Dr. Sheppard? What's the location?
Dr. Sheppard: North East third (3rd) Street.
Mrs. Gordon: And where?
Dr. Sheppard: Second Avenue. (2nd Avenue)
Mrs. Gordon: How large a building, how big a structure, how many rooms?
Dr. Sheppard: It's a three story building.
Mrs. Gordon: How many accommodations?
Dr. Sheppard: We can accommodate easily 30 to 40 kids there and when we get enough
money.
Mrs. Gordon: How many rooms I meant to accommodate them?
Dr. Sheppard: More than 40.
Mrs. Gordon: Forty rooms.
Dr. Sheppard: As soon as we get enough money in we can satisfy the fire chief. We can
open the third floor, because he wants a sprinkler system on the third floor. Everytime
he comes around there is a different thing what we haven't done. I wish you would send
him on vacation Mr. Mayor.
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Father Gibson: Oh no we want him to be here roan. The life he saves may be mine
and l can't afford to let you go on no more vacation.
Mayor Ferre: Dr. Sheppard I think we hear you loud and clear;and t want to say
that Dr. Sheppard is one of these people that is graved sincerely and effectively
dedicated to the welfare of any people within the City of Miami and whatever he
does he does well and it comes out well. So we are very cognizant not only of the
people you serve but of the efficiency of the programs that you are involved in.
And 1 think I for one would like to go on record as saying- (now please don't
misunderstand, because it does happen, I didn't even know that was one of the hotels
that we had denotated for these type of programs.
Dr. Sheppard: We asked for two and you gave us one.
Mrs. Gordon: Did you get the title to the land or did you get a lease?
Dr. Sheppard: A lease.
Mrs. Gordon: One year.
Dr. Sheppard: No, no, one dollar.
Mrs. Gordon: One dollar indefinite term forever? One dollar a year ninety-nine years?
Dr. Sheppard: Until he rebuilds downtown.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh well that's ninety-nine years.
Mayor Ferre: Rose I promise I will not use that in the campaign next year.
Mrs. Gordon: If I was you I would. Maurice, I think you are missing the boat.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other questions? I just wanted, I started to say that I
want to go on record in saying that I certainly think that we are going to have to - I
for one would like to see qome of these programs funded a little bit further because I
think they are extremely effective. They are efficient and there programs will do a
great deal of good.
Mrs. Gordon: I am going to have to ask you Mr. Mayor and the Manager if perhaps we can
take a look back at the previously allocated Revenue Sharing Funds. Because there is no
way Mr. Manager can stretch a dollar any more than you or I can and the worthwhile
programs that are being presented here tonight add up to way over what we've got so we
are going to have to take another look and see whether we need such a large amount for
motor .pool and that sort of thing and -----
Mayor Ferre: Ok. That's fine Rose, but we are not going to do it right now. We will
do it later on.
Mr. Plummer: When you do something like that you better have a public hearing for the
taxpayers too.
Dr. Sheppard: Mr. Chairman, Mr. Mayor, in one final statement we expect next year
President Ford has just signed a juvenile delinquency act covering runaways and we are
applying for a grant and I think we might : we have a pretty good stab to get the thing.
So that's next year, not this year, so that if we can -----
Mayor Ferre: If we can get going you are saying you might find federal funds to carry
it on.
Dr. Sheppard: Yea. Until then we are are running on Arch -diocese .
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much Dr. Sheppard and Mr. Smith - into the mike please.
Mr. Smith: As the Commission members are certainly aware Dade County in the. Metropolitan
Comprehensive Drug Program in Dade County is recognized nationally as being one of the
best treatment programs here in the nation. And --certainly that with the emphases
and the Federal Government on prevention and runaway youth that the City of Miami might
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also be a Model City fot funaway youths. We certainly have a lot of sun and
sand but we should be providing something mote for the children that have run-
way ,from homes.
Mayor Ferret All right. Thank you very much. The next category will be the
Little Havana Activity Center - Mr. Villaverde.
Mr. Rafael Villaverde: Honorable Mayor, honorable members of the Commission. We
are presently requesting Revenue. Sharing Funds to be used in a nutrition program
for the elderly. Presently our agency Little Havana Activity Center is involved
in a hot meals program and we are delivering 450 hot meals a day, plus transport-
ation . Supported Social Services such as information and referral, transportation,
health services, recreational activities and we have evaluated by the United Way
of Dade County, State of Florida, HEW and Office of Business & Management. Our
reports (unintelligible) outstanding program and we have served over $6,000
senior citizens in Dade County. Presently we are operating out of five facilities:
--- one on 12th Avenue and 8th Street, one in Downtown Miami in Centro Hispanic
---- one in Wyndwood community, which is 36th Street and 2nd Avenue in the Holy
Cross Church, one in Hialeah and the fifth one in Biscayne Blvd. & 7th Street.
Withthe funds that we are presently requesting we'll be able to open two new sites
serving approximately 265 people on a daily basis.
Mrs. Gordon: Where Rafael?
Mr. R. Villaverde: Ok. We plan to open in the N.W. area -new Housing and Urban
Development that there are no hot meals programs at the present time operating there.
Around Peter's Plaza, 71st and down -- another one next to the river around 1st and
9th and this is based on demographic studies according the senior concentration in
those areas. It's a high priority area.
Mrs. Gordon: You would also be serving the Black area?
Mr. R. Villaverde: According to program we have to serve everybody.
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I am saying, because that they are in need.
Mr. R. Villaverde: uh huh. The only eligibility requirement for this program is to be
60 years of age and over. There is no means test but emphasis have to be placed on the
isolated. We are trying to bring the isolated senior citizens into a ----- meals with
support of Social Service and recreational activities that will benefit them in the
social inter -action and group inter -action by which they will be able to share their
problems and what seens the end of the world for one when it's explained to the whole
group and to their peers they find solutions to themselves. We find that a lot of the
persons that have been coming to our program have improved so much on their daily
activities like -- they are able to function 30 or 40% better than they used too.
Mrs. Gordon: Rafael I agree with you 100% I understand the needs. It's just not being
enlarged upon enough in this community. All over we need it.
Mr. R. Villaverde: Correct. And we have to realize that senior citizens in the great
minority tend to live on a fixed income and in times of inflation they are the ones
who are hit the hardest. Because of $146.00 from supplemental security income and
food stamps is not enough for them to live with dignity and we have to remind (Did I
go overtime)?
Mrs. Gordon: Can I ask you a question? Is Hialeah funding you anything for the one
you got over there in there place?
Mr. R. Villaverde: No ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: Have you asked them, did they refuse?
Mr. R. Villaverde: Yes ma'am. The information we received was to meet their and
see what we can do, but so far the operation that we have in Hialeah that is presently
serving 100 hot meals on a daily basis plus transportation and support of Social Services
90% to HEW 10% through the United Way and individuals donors and Mr. Moreno and Dr.
Mot and Cuadrado.
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Mayor Ferre: Ate you getting any help from the Metropolitan Dade County?
Mrs. Gordon: Have you asked them?
Mr. R. Villaverde: I am not included in their plan.
Mayor Ferre: I think this might be the appropriate time Mr. Manager for me to
state that Metropolitan Dade County when asked what their Federal Revenue Sharing
Funds are and master 18 million 730 thousand dollars which is a lot of money corm
pared to our little million dollars they weare dedicating to this, but they cover
such a wide spectrum of things.that they are not involved in giving $10,000, $30,000
if you look at these categories: bus fate subsidy for the elderly which is a great
idea I've always been for it ; was for it in fact I introduced legislation in 1967
for that; 1 million 500 thousand dollars right on down- mobil health unit for the
elderly, library service for the elderly, downtown impact program, meals on wheels
program, special transportation for the elderly, programs for the frail elderly,
model cities activity center and so on. And you go right down there are about 4 or
5 million dollars of elderly type programs. The child care centers by the way, is
$819,700.00, the Latin Legal Service Program is $55,000.00, and so on, that's about
the smallest one that they funded. Except for the library service for the Blind which
is $50,000.00. There are a lot of good programs but you know the need in this community
for social programs so bad that really what we need is about 100 million dollars to do
the job. Perhaps what we ought to do is abolish the City of Miami and abolish Metropolit-
an Dade County and concentrate on social programs.
Mr. Andrews: Well Mr. Mayor as long as you've gotten intothis discussion;let me add this
to that in discussing this whole spectrum of social services in Dade County with the
County Manager and with United Fund we came to the realization that we are now beginning
to embark upon a better way of analyzing how funds are spent in Dade County. When you
consider all the different agencies and we are not sure really in many of these proposals
that are submitted where balance of funding or additional funding is coming from and to
what extent they receive support from other organizations in terms of contributions. How
much is on the fee basis and someone,somewhere along the way and the City of Miami and
Dade County,I think should take the leadership in this area in perhaps performing some
sort of social service commission in which an analysis of all of the social service
programs that are carried out can be made so when an organization makes applications for
funds to a given governmental agency,that governmental agency should have available where
additional funding comes from to support their programs. How they are carried out so that
we get the full impact of what they are trying to accomplish in the community and then to
relate that to make sure it's not a duplicate to service that's being leaded so that the
dollars that we do put into it are really going a long way toward the social service
programs. We are not able to do that at this time. I can't come to the Commission and ----
the last one that we were discussing with the Catholic Services, the Bridge program. There
is no real way for me to fully evaluate that programand tell you the complete make-up as
to its funding and how it will empact upon the City of Miami. I don't know to what extend
that bridge program will benefit the City of Miami for the dollars that we put into it,
verses how many people they plan to serve through all of Dade County and then if you were
to make a grant the policing and control of that area to make sure that maximum amount of
funds that will be expended or expended for the City of Miami, because it's the City of
Miami Federal Revenue Sharing Funds that are going into it; becomes very difficult to
evaluate. I can't give you answers in those areas now. Same with this- while we think
this is a very fine program that you are carrying on. It's difficult at this time to
relate exactly the services that will flow to the City of Miami as a result of this prog-
ram. Are all of these people within the City of Miami. What portion of them ? And you
may be able to answer it because you have a good program going and there are others who
are just starting up programs who are making applications to the City ; where that kind of
question is far more difficult to answer.
Mr. R. Villaverde: According to the data that we presently have. We have a population of
over 35,000 persons, 60 and over below the proverty level in the target area that we are
trying to serve, therefore I do believe that the target has been selected is within the
City of Miami limits. And when we talked about 250 people on daily basis that's an un-
duplicated count. Not everybody come on daily basis. I think that this is a program that
will have a great impact in the Miami community, also we have to take under consideration
as you said before we have to look for programs that will not overlap; existing program
and the administrative cost since this program is going to be a supplement of an HEW grant
therefore the administrative cost will be minimum in the program and we'll find that we'll
be able to serve more people with less administrative cost.
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which is money that is not going directly to serve people and we have to look for
programs that as you said before. We have to take the best millage out of it.
And when we are talking about millage in this case it's people. How many people
can we serve? When a program is providing 30% of the basic nutrition needs of the
person on a daily basis I think it's sound plus the other social components that
we are discribing in our grant application.
Mr. Plummer: All right and let me say this and please don't take this personal and
or to your particular - Rafael I'm sorry-- to your particular program. Today the
word '.welfare' has a very bad connotation. But here's the point that I want to make.
Some 20 years ago, I think it was. The City of Miami gave at that time the existing
welfare program. to Metropolitan Dade County. Now let's call it a program today that
needs of people for a better termiology. Now you know each and every citizen in this
city pay 27% of Metropolitan Dade County's budget. 27% the last figure I've heard it
might be a little different now, but in that general area. Now you know it seems like
to me where they got better than double the amount of monies that we got to handle
programs and just because that general Revenue Sharing thing says these are the areas
in which you shall distribute your funds. There is about seven areas there that we
don't even qualify, such as transportation. Because it's Metropolitan Dade County.
We turned it over, the City of Miami gave them the bus system. We gave them the
hospital, we gave them the jails. Now I know it can be said that these are programs
that cost money, but it's also got to be said that the citizens of this city pay 27%
of that g-ap. And I am going to tell you for one that I personally don't think that
the people of this city or getting 27% back. And I think that your program - all of
these programs should be getting if not fully funded by that federal funds or by the
27%, they should be getting a bigger percentage than they are getting today and I just
can't get that out of my craw that we are paying 27% but we are not getting even half
of that.
Mr. R. Villaverde: I feel the same way that you do. When the demographic study was
done to see the needs of this community we found that our agency is basically Spanish
speaking agency and we found that we have the lowest budget of all the agencies working
with the seniors at the present time and it was due to a mistake in the demographic
study . And then we are paying the consequences and we will continue to pay the con-
sequences by a mistake that wasn't made by us.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Villaverde we have to move along.
Mr. R. Villaverde: Sure. I appreciate the opportunity that you have provided us with
expressing our program. I want to thank the Commission. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any questions?
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask one question of the Manager? Paul is there any way - did you
try to analyze the some 5 million dollars of what the County is diverting for social
services, did you try to analyze what the people of the City of Miami are going to be
recipients of?
Mr. Andrews: No. no I didn't.
Mr. Plummer: I think it would be interesting. Let me give you a fine example. We the
people of the City of Miami voted for a 300 thousand dollar bond program for Dade County
and our and I think when we turned around and analyzed - we asked the County. Our
people are paying 27% of that bond issue, what are we getting back for our people? Do
you know what the answer was? Let me tell you what it was. They listed three items: #1.
the redoing of the Dade County Auditorium -##2. the redoing of Vizcaya, a revenue producing
function likewise the Auditorium and #03. the widening of Rickenbacker Causeway. But all
of the rest of the County were getting parks and equipment and programs, but we are not
getting ---- And I say the same inequity lies here in this area as it does in that
parks bond issue and something that we need to do something about. I'd like to have that
analyzation by the way. Just to see what the people of this City are receiving back in
the so-called 5 million dollars if that's the figure of what Dade County is disbursing
in the social services area.
Mr. R. Villaverde: Before I conclude. I want to say that 90% of our funds are within the
City of Miami of our present existing budget and 100% of the money that are being requested
will be expended in the City of Miami. Thank you very much.
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Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask Mr. Andrews a question about the elderly. Mr. Andrews
our Frail Elderly Program will you please tell me how you expect to fund it this
year? It was supposed to be funded last year.
Mr. Andrews: You will recall that last year when the Commission first approach the
Frail Elderly Program the first ordinance that was adopted provided for a 50 thousand
dollar program in which 25 thousand dollars was to come from the City of Miami and
25 thousand dollars from some other agency on a matching basis. Then a re-evaluation
when we went through the last appropriation ordinance the additional 25 thousand dollars
was added providing for total 50 thousand dollars program for that year for the balance
of the year. $26,000.00 was expended for the construction cost associated with convert-
ing the Legion building and closing it.
Mrs. Gordon: Actually what you are saying is the building was improved whether there is
a program there or not you took out old metal jalousies and put in glass jalousies but
you are deducting it from the program when it should not have been. That's what you are
saying, ok? All right. finished.
Mr. Andrews: There was a closing balance then of $24,000.00 which is available. The
budget request for this coming year is $110,000.00 and what I wasrecommending to the
Commission is that we provide the $55,000.00 or half of the total on the assumption that
the way the Commission initiated this program last year that the additional $55,000.00
could be made from a matching source if that's not the wish of the Commission then the
$26,000.00 for the construction cost could come from capital improvement unallocated
funds and that those monies then be used in this program . That would bring the prog-
ram up to about $85,000.00 rather than the $110,000.00 . That would provide $85,000.00
for operating the program and the request is for $110,000.00 and that request - I should
say rather than request that, that information just came into being in that we're attempt-
ing to work out on a contractual basis the operation of that Elderly program through ---
Mrs. Gordon: Which would probably be enough because we are not going to begin it at the
first of October.
Mr. Andrews: I wanted to bring that out.
Mrs. Gordon: Yea- you are going to lose a couple of months. You do have $85,000.00
for the program, is that what you are telling me?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: All right then that will cover it. I am sure it will cover this year's
ah--
then
Mr. Andrews: You are asking me how the program can be covered without any additional
allocation of funds from the existing programs ---
Mrs. Gordon: It's just that the improvements of the building would then be charged to
the capital improvements fund where it should of been in the first place and then the
existing $24,000 and then you have added some more but I don't know where you got ti
it from.
Mr. Andrews: The $31,000.00 is transferred from the Day Care balance to provide a
budget ----
Mrs. Gordon: Oh but you can't take that from the Day Care Mr. Andrews because the
childrens program is short now.
Mr. Andrews: Well, I recognized what the Commission was discussing when the young lady
was here Ms. Chambers, Chandler with reference to the $412,000.00 budget and the budget
that we came up with of $387,000.00.
Mrs. Gordon: Well Mr. Andrews you heard a very comprehensive explanation and you're
shutting your mind to it. I am terribly sorry about that, but I cannot except the
transfer from the Child Day Care program to another very worthy program. You just can't
take it away from the children as much as we need the elderly program. We can't take it
from the children. We need it. We don't have enough now.
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Mr. Andrews: All right. All 1 can tell you is that at one point when Ms, Chandler
was involved in reviewing this that she went over this budget item by item and at
that time the $412,000.00 was a budget that was submitted for approval. Now we have
since gonte back over that and in order to make up a more realistic budget we feel
that the $387,000.00 is adequate to carry out the program. This would provide a
portionate staff available for individuals participating in the programs of about
one to 6.8 hours of availability of staff to the people we are serving and it provides
a budget that would allocate approximately $2500 per child served and if you go beyond
that Mrs. Gordon you are going to be talking about a budget that will provide about
$3300 per,child served per year. And that to me seems like an awful lot of money to
budget to service each child, that's $3,300.00 per child ---
Mrs. Gordon: In that budget you are including revenues received so --- it's not an
expenditure.
Mr. Andrews: But it's still a cost.to operate the program.
Mayor Ferre: All right now we are going to continue. We'll come back.
Mrs. Gordon: All right I know we are going to continue we aren't going to make any
decisions at this moment but I do want you to bear in mind that the elderly program is
still short about $50,000.00 in addition to the capital improvements portion.
Mayor Ferre: All right. The Coconut Grove Family Clinic. Is there anyone to speak?
Mr. Charles Jackson: Mr. Mayor, City Commissioners. I'm Administrative of Coconut
Grove Family Clinic. 0f course our concern is what I think that we've been talking
about and that is health care be it infants, young people or as well as senior citizens
and middle age. So we are talking about providing health care for people period. The
Coconut Grove Family Clinic was organized by Mrs. Verrick, Father Gibson, Dr. Carmichael,
and Dr. Mc Kenrich in 1971. Since the clinic inception we've provided over $13,000
patient's visits in Coconut Grove area of the City of Miami. First of all, it is quite
difficult for residents in the Coconut Grove area to get Health Care Services because
from here to Jackson Hospital it's approximately 8 or 8 miles which constitutes senior
citizens as well as young and other people alike don't have the time nor the transportation
nor the bus service just to get them there. First of all, I would like to say that we
appreciate the space that has been allocated as for expanding services here in the
Coconut Grove area for Health Care Services. I feel that there is no better way than to
provide financial assistance for the ill as elderly ill people in our community. Mr.
Mayor, City Commissioners we hope to have received the amount of monies that we requested
however, I think history has proven the fact that Coconut Grove Clinic is a very realistic
clinic. The point of what I'm trying to make is that you can't squeeze blood from a turnip
so to speak. Therefore we respectfully and hope that we will receive monies which has been
earmarked for the Coconut Grove Family Clinic in the Coconut Grove area. Are there any
questions?
Mayor Ferre: Any questions of Mr. Jackson? Are you getting funding from any other source
Mr. Jackson?
Mr. Charles Jackson: We received last year for the first time $25,000.00 grant from
United Way to begin to provide Administrative staff so as we could began to research and
bring into addition of funds. Yes we are.
Mayor Ferre: Will you be receiving that same $25,000.00 this year?
Mr. Charles Jackson: We hope to. Yes.
Mayor Ferre: I am sorry Mr. is not here but Mr. Andrews I think this might
be an appropriate time for a short comment that it would be my hope that it is not the
intention of the.United Fund to substitute the City of Miami Revenue Sharing Funds for
grants that they are making within the community, because this is certainly not a relief
of the United Fund whatever responsibilites they have I would certainly hope that they
would maintain and I just want to make that statement.
Mr. Andrews: This was the area I was trying to address myself to Mr. Mayor where we are
having a little difficulty in trying to reconcile full funding of these individual programs
Now from the information I have and you correct me if I am wrong this represents approxima
ly $100,000.00 if the $80,000.00 is granted in total operation of the activity you are
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proposed to perform and you began last year with approximately $25,000.00.
This year it's approximately $100,000.00 that's a 400% increase in just one
year. I realize you need much money that than, but at least I think it's a
substantial beginning.
Mayor Ferre: All right thank you sir, Jackson. All right the next speaker,
Legal Services of Greater Miami. Mr. Howard Dixon.
Mr. H. Dixon: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission. In behalf of all of the
speakers who have spoke before me and the audience. I think we ought to thank
you and the City of Miami staff for your infinite , patience, tact to the humor
in dealing with a very difficult subject. Legal Services of Miami has been
funded previously by the City of Miami and Metro Dade County for our Latin-American
Legal Services office. Mr. Andrews and the Consortium recommendation has recommend-
ed that we be funded this time for $86,000. We are getting an additional $55,000
from the County and in additional from $24,000.from the State of Florida Community
Assistance Act.to provide legal assistance in the Wyndwood area. So that part of
the recommendationof the Consortiums were to provide an additonal 31 thousand
dollars so that we could have a complete office in the Wyndwood Community where
we've been needing it for some years and when the people of Wynwood Community has
consistency asked us for but we 've never really had the resources to apply to that
particularly community. So we are very happy with the recommendations to the consort-
ium. We hope you go through with those particular recommendations. Last year our
Latin American office provided legal assistance for 1500 residents, which i-- ah the
amount of the budget at that time was $59.00 per capital. Which means that we provided
the Assistance in emigration cases, divorces, landlord and tenant, consumer, welfare
and social security for that many persons for a bargin price for the City and we hope
to go on doing so.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dixon , why should the City of Miami pay for $86,000 on legal services
when the County is going to pay $55,000?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well the County is paying one half of our Latin American office in Little
Havana that's a basically yes. We tried to get more funds for the Wyndwood office from
them but they pointed us in the direction of the State of Florida and we got $24,000,
But we are asking you for an additional $31,000.00 for that particular office so that
we can open the office in Wyndwood and properly service it. Now, I can't answer you
the question of why we are the smallest donor among the County's 18 million dollars
except that we do not have all of the lovely ladies come down and stick it out and fight
for the money the way the Child Care Services have here. We represent a lot of old people
a lot of poor people who are not articulated and just could not hold out in the evening
the you all do and the way the rest of us do. But we think we need the money and this is
for service for citizens of the City of Miami and we are the most unique service that
the City will be funding in the sense that we are not social services, we are not youth
care of any kind. We are providing a hard service. Legal assistance and we believe
the Wyndwood community needs it and that the Latin American people in the Wyndwood
community are very deserving of that service.
Mayor Ferre:
in the Little
Mr. H. Dixon:
You are telling me now that in your service you did not serve the people
Havana area that lived outside of the City of Miami.
No sir, they are all Little Havana residents.
Mayor Ferre: All right. I think Mr. Lopez wanted to talk about legal services, so I'll
recognize you at this moment.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I recognize Mr. Dixon. My concern in this matter is the kind of
services that they are being allowed to be provided in this areas with the legal services.
I would like to request from the City of Miami - thatsfine give us the legal services -
we need them and if necessary maybe through Mr. Dixon's office but I would like to have
a better representation into his kind of functioning so we'll be able to change some of
ways that the cases I handle and the services actually given to the people.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dixon you want to respond to that?
Mr. H. Dixon: Yes sir. The Community Action Agency appointed a representative of the
Wynwood Community to our board last month. He did not show up at the last board meeting,
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Mayor Ferret
Mr. H. Dixon:
Mayor Ferret
Mr. H. Dixon:
Action Agency
Mayor Ferret
Who is that representative?
I am sorry I don't remember his name now.
How was he selected?
He was selected by the neighborhood. I understand. The Community
referred his name to us. I don't recall his name at all.
Are you acquainted with this Mr. Lopez?
Mr. Emilio Lopez: Probably the Neighborhood Youth like he said appointed a represent-
ative but again my concern (you know) and I express it again to say that they have a
presentation is just like many other agencies that they say that have our represent-
ation and when the time comes for the services they are under par and they are not the
kind of services that our people need in the area.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this, Mr. Dixon would an advisory, a small advisory board,
say of 3 to 5 people be of any value in each one of these centers? This would be strictly
advisory not in anyway in the capacity.
Mr. H. Dixon: We'd be happy to do that, -but we'd be happy to see to it that the Wynd-
wood office got as much representation as any other area in the community. For example,
Latin American Community has two (2) members on their board. Mr. Louis Sallee who had to
leave, he is the Vice President of our organization and Mr.Javier who is the chairman of
the Accion Committee is on our Board of Directors. So we would be happy to have another
representative appointed by -----
Mayor Ferre: No, let me ask the Manager now and our City Attorney ---- you know the
thing that always concerns me in some of these social programs is proper community represent
ation. It isn't that a service is being rendered in one area or not being in another, but
sometimes the people that live in that community don't feel that they are apart of it.
Now I'm not talking about paying anybody. I am just saying it wouldn't make any sense
to have in each one of these legal service areas a five (5) person advisory board.that
would periodically meet with the people rendering the service and go over the case flows
of what's been done. What's been accomplished and perhaps some in -put.
Mr. H. Dixon: Mr. Mayor, in relation to that I will also advise you know is real easy
for somebody come and many agencies come over here and request funds because they are
the experts and the technical experts and the ones who know how to get the funds but
when the times comes to have the people to have an in -put in what is going on in those
services is minimum. Not only through the City of Miami but also through the Dade County
and many other agencies that are in the community. It seems that they do at will what
they want to do. Not taking into consideration the real needs and the basic needs that
the community really have.
Mayor Ferre: That's why an advisory board would be functional and help to keep everybody
on the right course and you would of course have --
Mt. H. Dixon: But I don't recommend it only for this particular program. I recommend it
for many of the other programs that are being funded in here tonight,also.
Mayor Ferre: Well some of them have that and others of course don't. All right but let's
address ourselves to this particular point. I would recommend Mr. Manager that if we do
fund Legal Services of Greater Miami that we stipulate in the funding that a committee
or an advisory committee of five(5) members be appointed. That each one.of the persons
on this Commission appoint one advisor to each. In other words what I am saying is Little
Havana would have a five(5) man board and Wyndwood would have a five (5) man board.
Mr. Andrews: A representative of the community that's being served.
Mayor Ferre: Of a community to act as an advisory council that would meet . It wouldn't
have to be a monthly meeting. It might be by monthly or quarterly (I don't know) that wou
have to he something that would have to be worked out.
Mrs. Gordon: Could I ask a question please for information?' In the Black communities the
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have legal services and who funds that, do you know?
Mr. H. Dixon: We fund that. We fund that out of the old O.E.O. which has now gone
out of business.
Mts. Gordon: So haw will they be funded from now?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well we have a continuing resolution on the same financial level that
we did in 1973, 1972, 1971, as a result we are gradually having to close down offices
because we cannot meet the cost of inflation.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you saying you are not going to have any there?
Mr.,H. Dixon: Well we have them - yes we have them there, but they are at a very
reduced level.
Mrs. Gordon: How reduced is the level?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well we for example, had to close an office in the Model Cities area
because the Model Cities came up with money for an office and we've had to cut down
one or two attorneys in Edison Center Office and Opa Locks Office.
Mayor Ferre: Are those programs as large as the Little Havana Program?
Mr. H. Dixon: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Will they remain as large?
Mr. H. Dixon: We hope so, ---
Mayor Ferre: Are they larger?
Mr. H. Dixon: One office is larger, yes. That's the Edison Center and Model City Office.
Mrs. Gordon: Will it remain that way?
Mr. H. Dixon: We hope so.
Mrs. Gordon: Well have you got the funds?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well, we've got the funds, but it depends upon when our new legal services
corporation comes into effect which maybe in 1975, 1976. It depends on Mr. Ford appointing
a Board of Directors and having it approved by them.
Mrs. Gordon: What happens between now and then, will it be in operation?
Mr. H. Dixon: We'll be on continuing resolution and hope to continue at the same level.
Mrs. Gordon: Well you keep hoping. I am hoping too but what about definite ?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well you see it depends upon the cost of inflation as it effects the City
and everything else if we are affect by 10 or 20% increase because of inflation we have
to cut back 10 or 20%. That means perhaps if we have 20 lawyers now we have to cut back
two and that's where our funding is there with that particular program. But we are main-
taining these offices at the present time.
Mrs. Gordon: And you are getting the funds from the Federal Government. Can you get some
more funds from the Federal Government to fund these Latins Legal Services?
Mr. H. Dixon: We've tried. The problem is we are under a continuing congressional resolut-
ion at the 1971 level. This is why we've been cutting back in our other areas. Because we
are not getting anymore money in view of the fact the O.E.O.'s been going out of business.
Mr. Plummer: Are these lawyers on a full time basis?
Mr. H. Dixon: Yes sir. They cannot practice law outside.
Mr. Plummer: All right air. Approximately what are they making per year?
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Mr. H. Dixon: The attorney at the beginning salary of $11,000.00.
Mr. Plummer: $11,000?
Mr. H. Dixon: Yes sir. That's a thousand dollars less than they pay beginning
public defenders or state's attorneys.
Mr. Plummer: All right then let me ask this question. Under the memo that we have
it says that two attorneys and a law clerk for a salary of $56,000.
Mr. H. Dixon: No that's - the $55,000 is for the total budget. You see what we did
is take a budget of ---
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. This is only for Wyndwood Community Legal Services and it
says to provide a bilingual legal service office with two attorneys and a law clerk
salaries - $56,266.
Mr. H. Dixon: But you see what we did is in this situation we applied the same budget
to the County so that what we did was replied part of the staff and part of the expenses
to the City portion which we were requesting and part to the County. So part of the
functions are awaited in terms of the cost surrounding the services such as consumer
cost, travel and so forth. And moat of the cost in one of the budgets so forth for actual
services. The total budget is not $55,000 in one budget for services along, there are
other costs in each of the budgets.
Mayor Ferre: All right thank you very much Mr. Dixon.
Mr. Plummer: I am not satisfied with Mr. Dixon with the answer. This is broken down into
two sections sir. Legal Services of Greater Miami,Inc. that's the general overall which
you requested 124,000 then you break down into another request of $77,000 for Wyndwood
Park. Now what I don't understand is it says that this program will have two attorneys
and a law clerk. Where is the rest of the salaries going dedicated to Wyndwood Park?
Mr. H. Dixon: The rest of the salaries will be in the other portion of the budget that
we directed to the County.
Mr. Plummer: No. no you are getting off the question. Would you look here for one
minute?
Mayor Ferre: What he is saying is this: If two lawyers are making 22,000 and a law
clerk makes 8 or 9, 10,000 that's 33,000, now where do you go from 33,000
Mr. Plummer: Now now look let me show you. It's broken down into two parts
Inaudible ----
Mr. H. Dixon: What the report of the Consortium shows is the total budget at the request
for Wyndwood which was the total of some $77,000 of that $77,000 - $56.000 was for budget
but part of that was split off with the County and part for the City because we obviously
couldn't ask the city or the county to pay for half because we hope to get half from the
county and half from the city. So we showed them the city's half. Two attorneys and the
law clerk inthecounty's half of the budget we showed the remaining personnel which is
two secretaries and other costs. And that's how we had to make some arbitrary division
between the two budgets. Otherwise the only other way to do it is to take the whole
dinner budget and just say give us one half the money and not give you a specific account
ing. We try to give you the same kind of specific accounting that we over the years
given to the Federal Government and the State Government.
Mr. Plummer: All right. What you are saying then is that these figures are not really
fair.
Mr. H. Dixson: No they are not fair in the sense that they represent the whole total
thing that we've asked for from the County and the City.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Thank you.
Mr. H. Dixon: Thank you.
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Mayor Terre: Dr. Cuadrado are you going to speak to this utter?
You better not go Mt, Dixon. Go ahead.
Dr. Raul Cuadrado: 1 would like to refresh your memory Mr. Dixon, because last
year 1 appeared at the Metro Commission when you were making a request of $90,000
and as you may recall. We came to the City Commission to ask for half of it. Now
my question is again as the Mayor as asked, why 86 or whatever from the City and
much less from the County?
Mr. H. Dixon: Well I'll again go over that for you sir. The County gave us $55,000.00
for our Latin American Office. $55,000.00 was recommended in this budget for our
Latin American Office in the City. $31,000.00 was recommended by the Consortium for
our Wyndwood Office and we had picked up an additional $24,000.00 for that office from
the state financial assistance -- so that we are giving a total from the City and
County to the Latin American Office of Little Havana $110,000.00 with the City and the
City equally:contributing. However the Consortium recommended since we could not get
any more money from the County and we could only get $24,000.00 from the STate that
they give an additional $31,000.00.
Dr. Raul Cuadrado: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: The next speak will represent channel 2 for $3,000.00. Is there
anybody here to speak for Channel 2.. If not I'll just read request funding
$10,000.: this organization provides educational public television services
through the Community Television Foundation of South Florida. All right the next
item is Cultural Programs which are items 13 and 15. Requested funding of $183,162.
The City of Miami allocated $10,000 for the Office of Community Affairs- Cultural
Expansion Program to provide start-up money for a cultural affairs program. Who'll
speak to that today?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, perhaps I better add some comments to this before others get
up and discuss this. The City was able to employ Dr. Sasso as a Cultural Affairs
Officer for the City. We are hoping to arrange for a variety of programs to be carried
out in our parks system and elsewhere in the city in which we will have plays musical
perhaps even an opera if that's possible. It '11 certainly make greater use of our
new piece of equipment that we've purchased for the parks system to bring these programs
into the parks system. We had the Ives Centennial request and the Latin Chamber Music
request for funds to carry out cultural programs and rather than make an award to those
organizations we proposed to work with them and through the utilization of this $10,000
and Dr. Sasso's ability. We could make the $10,000 go further in designing programs to
assist the total community as far as cultural programs are concerned.
Mrs. Gordon: The question is Dr. Sasso a volunteer?
Mr. H. Dixon: We picked out Dr. Sasso through the Manpower program. He teaches at the
University of Miami and he also works for the city.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask you what his salary is?
Mr. H. Dixon: $833.00 a month.
Mrs. Selma Alexander: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Commission. I am a member of the
Charles Ives Centennial Festival Committee which is taking place from October, 1974
until May, 1975. I leave the details about Mr. Ives and all of the cultural details
to Dr. Warren O'Reilly who is very well equipped to answer all kinds of questions.
My concern right now is - I was very interested with what Mr. Andrews had to say how
this new position of Cultural Affairs will affect a program that's been totally set
out from October 1974 starting in Tuesday the 15th of October until January ---April
1975 = Charles Ives being an American composer. We are the officially accredited
Bi-Centennial Project. We have committed to us $25,000.00 in funds from the fine
art's council which must be matched. The tourist development association of Miami
Beach has allocated $7500. Dade County allocated $5500 which is a total of $13,000.
The kind of publicity attended on all of the programing that's going to take place
starting next Sunday evening at Gussman Hall and most of these events do take place,
the major portion in Gussman Hall, which is Downtown Miami. On Sunday there will be
representatives of the United STates Information Service. It will be proadcast on
Voice of America. The kind of publicity Miami has been getting Nationwide and inter-
nationally is publicity that cannot be bought with the amount of money that we are
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requesting. Now I must apology for coming to you at this time and under these
circumstances, because the priorities involved in this whole Revenue Sharing in
terms of Child Care, Day Care make me rather reluctant to speak to this at this
time. I would had hoped that when this was presented earlier that it would have
come out of general revenue. The amount requested is not $159,000 as is projected.
That was the total budget projected for a year that was in the initial proposal. The
amount requested from the City at the time we initially proposed it was $60,000. We
are perfectly propared since we have been able to tap some private funds and the Dade
County and the Tourist Development of Miami Beach to scale it down to the $12,000 that
would help us meet our matching funds with the state, the fine arts council. Now the
only thing I would like to point out at this time is that this was sent strangely enough
to the United Fund for their evaluation. And their remarks are that they are unable
to relate to this festival as a social service. Well obviously not. It's not a social
service. It's a community service and it is a project that is Third Century and it is
something that will bring a great deal of credit to the City of Miami. The money we need
is for the fact that everybody knows that ticket sales never cover the cost of concerts.
If they cover 50% they cover a great deal. So we have all these projects. A lot of
voluntary funding, funding from the County and funding from the City of Miami Beach
Tourist Development Authority and certainly with Miami being the worst spread in the head-
lines and Mr. O'Reilly will be able to show you more of that.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews we have quite a sum of money budgeted for our concert in our
regular budget. Will that cover the $12,000 that we need for the Ives Centennial?
Mr. Andrews: No ma'am it will not.
Mrs. Gordon: Well you know we've been talking about this Ives Centennial at this
Commission level for quite some time and to find now that we are just saying here good-
bye nice to have seen you. It's rather shocking to me.
Mr. Andrews: I don't think the Commission ever made any commitment that it was going to
fund this activity.
Mrs. Gordon: We didn't make any definite commitment, but we certainly implied that we
were in favor of it.
Mr. Andrews: Well I think the City Commission is in favor of many things but when you
get down to the reality of trying to find the money to fund it, it's just not there.
Mrs. Gordon: I recognized that you are taking some different routes that had been
anticipated ok.
Mr, Andrews: But Mrs. Gordon and members of the Commission. When we began further
evaluating this we begin to wonder real seriously whether this would meet the criterial
established for Federal Revenue Sharing Funds and that was the reason for putting this
proposal of the Ives Centennial and the Latin Chamber Music into two categories. lumping
them up in a $10,000 request here is that perhaps we can justify this on the basis of
the fact that it will be a form of recreation, but I would seriously doubt that we could
include 100 and some thousand dollars or any money ----
Mrs. Gordon: Well we are only talking about $12,000 not 100 and some odd thousand.
Mr. W. O'Reilly: Excuse me, make I please make one correction? She said $12,000 it
should be $10,000 rather than $12,000 thank you. That is the figure that had been
settled on prior and she happened to be reading the figure from the wrong column and
just happened to say 12, but then she has been sitting around here patiently waiting
for a long time and I think we can forgive her for reading a figure of the wrong column.
I only have a very short discussion and that is this. Mrs. Alexander pointed out correctly
that we 've obtained an enormous amount of publicity. We are getting a great amount of
attention for our first week of our festival. But the plan has always been that it go on
all season and continue to attract to the city and the whole area people who might come
here under other circumstances (who might not come here)I mean under other circumstances
but who might be more interested in coming here if we had a cultural event of this sort
going through the season. Certainly we are going to get more publicity, even then we've
already had. So you'll notice the new magazine of Delta Airlines for this month. There
is a very nice story about Mr. Ives and about Miami. It does not mention any of the festiv
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occurring anywhere else in the United Staten for Ives. Only the one here. There will
be more and there will be national coverage in the press. I am concerned that we
follow through the rest of the season and not frizzle out. A nation's greatest defend
is it's cultural hertiage and this is an important figure in America's cultural or
history and one who has been undeservative neglected. We are attempting something
very ambitious for Miami. And when I first went to New York in the East to tell them
that we were going to do this. The first thing they said was who are you going to get
to come and play everything,surely you don't have any orchestras an musicians down
there who can do these things. Once we have proved that we have these things I think
it will be of great benefit. Not only for these people elsewhere, but for some of the
people in our own community who down grade anything cultural on a local level. We have
three elements that this festival will help do. #i1. It will start our Bi-Centennial
celebrations with an emence success. ##2. It will contribute to the Downtown Miami Cult-
ural Development and #3. It will certainly permanently change the image of Miami in
other parts of the world. Thank you very much for your patience and attention.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Mr. O'Reilly. Are there any questions?
Mr. Plummer: Paul what would you say of the $10,000 that is allocated to -cultural programs
would go to the Ives Centennial?
Mr. Andrews: Well I think that if you identify it as a pledge of funds toward the Ives
Centennial. We may very well need to find the $10,000 after you've made the commitment
from some other source, because I don't know that the Federal Auditors who would approve
of that kind of ---- But I think if we treat it and because it's such a small amount of
money in relation to a total of 8.9 million dollars that if we treat it in terms of rec-
reation and if we make contributions as we move through this. Through a controlled progress
that the City would be utilizing -and recognizing that it will be recreation for the City
perhaps it will successful.
Mr. Plummer: The half?
Mr. Andrews: Maybe even a little more than that. 7500 might be available.
Mayor Ferre: The next speaker will be Edison Little River Self -Help Community Council
- $30,000.
Mr. Forbes: Executive Director of Edison Little River, 139 N.E. 54th St. Mrs. Eisenberg
our Vice Chairman has already made some comments relatively to this program. It's our
youth program where you've heard about the many industries and the mini government. And
that request initially was for $216,000. The City Manager has recommended $30,000.
Mayor Ferre: I see $126,000 here.
Mr. Forbes: Correction, correction. $126,000. We believe that the amount of $70,000
will sufficiently give us enough funds to effectively deliver services to the youth in
addition.
Mr. Plummer: What did you say?
Mr. Forbes: $70,000 in addition to the $30,000 that the City Manager has recommended.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, a total of $100,000 is what he is at.
Mr. Plummer: Which is back in the other figure.
Mayor Ferre: It's $26,856.00.
Mr. Plummer: No. no. please come back now to page - the first page item 11. Now do I
understand correctly on that - that you are talking about the $100,000 there and the
$30,000 what are you talking about I don't understand?
Mrs. Eisenberg: $100,000 is a pre-school program.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Where do I equate this $30,000 with the other? Where was the
other 70,0007
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Mrs. Eiaenbetg: We ate asking for the additional 70,000 for our youth program. In
addition to the $30,000 the Manager recommended. We are asking for $70,000 more.
Mr. Andrews: They want $100,000.00.
Mayor.Ferret Other than $30,000, they want $100,000.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. I stand corrected.
Mrs. Eisenberg: The $100,000 is to serve 300 young people. We are presently serving
150. We want to increase it to the 300.
Mayor Ferre: All Mrs. Eisenberg. Now Mr. Ricky Thomas.
Mr. Ricky Thomas: To a great Mayor and an outstanding Commission. I think the
philosophy and the theory of Revenue Sharing. I think our extending down all the way
from Washington was to have community involvement. I think that in this youth program
we have over there we have shown that we do have community involvement in fact in our
election as you know we had over 1500 kids participating in voting. We have all ethnic
groups. You are just not contributing to Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Blacks, you are contrib-
uting to all of those youths to that area. And we need this money, we want this money,
we demand this money. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Are there any questions? How many people representing organiz-
aions want to be heard and have not had the opportunity to talk? (There are 10 people).
I guess rather than take the time. Here's what I am going to do. You see this gentlemen
over here Mr. Southern - you come up give him your name. In the meantime we are going to
hear Mrs. Elizabeth Verricks. I you'll come over here Mrs. Verrick. The other nine(9)
will you please give Mr. Southern your name. We are going to take an put them on a piece
of paper and I am going to pick them at random. Whoever comes up that's who speaks. In
the meantime Mrs. Verrick.
Mrs. Eliz. Verrick: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. I believe most of you know or have been
told why I'm here. We were not on the agenda because this just came to a head this after-
noon, but it was last week that we spoke with the Mayor and subsequently wrote him a letter
and it pertained to the order by Governor Asknew to release 1050 in mates from Rayford and
other penal institutions and it is apparent to those of us that know about the situation
that the community is not prepared to receive these men and must itself become prepared.
As a result the Mayor asked Mr. Crouch to work with us on this and Mr. Crouch and Dr. Silber
of the Criminal Justice Planning Unit and Mr. Dixon from Metro and Rick Leonardi. I think
that's all met together day before yesterday and today a similar group worked all morning
and most of the afternoon on a letter which has been given to each of you.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me Mrs. Verrick. I see a lot more people than raised their hands.
Now if you will just have one name per organization. If you have three speaker, I will
as I've done so far this evening recognize each speaker for three minutes, but I don't
want 20 names. Now out of 10 organizations.
Mr. Plummer: May I ask a question at this point? You know I keep looking at this little
kid that's sound asleep down here and I got to believe that his parents are only here for
one reason and that is the After School, is that right? Now, can we agree or disagree at
this stage of the game Mr. Mayor that we intend or we do not intend to make definite dec-
isions tonight. Now I am looking at the fact of an 11:30 or in that area deadline and then
I look at this line and if you allocate 4 or 3 minutes to each onethereis no way that we
are going to even get through with just hearing from the people before if we do start
slicing up the cake. So what I am trying to say in so many words Mr. Mayor. If we can
agree that hopefully we'll get everyone heard, but no decisions. Then this woman can go
home. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Mrs. Gordon: I do. And may I remind you and the other Commissioners of the deadline
of funding on this particular program of After School and ask your consideration that we
move this item which is the first item on our agenda. We made these people wait from two
weeks ago when they came and were desperately concerned if you remember, because the
teachers and the children wouldn't know what they were going to be doing. So can I move
this item now?
Mayor Ferre: Let me cut through that Rose and let's see what the will of this Commission
is. because and I'll state my opinion. I am perfectly willing to stay here to 11:30 and
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then mote primarily if that's the will of the Coemission.
Mrs► Gordon: This is the only critical program that will expire unifies we refund it
tonight. I think the others ate not critical.
Mayor Ferre: I would have no objections to voting after we've heard all of these
people. I hate to do this and I wish you'd take that little baby home.
Mrs. Gordon: She is not going to move and go home until she hears that she's got a
place ---
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor since it's not fair. Let's do it this way if we can. Straw
votes are not legal, but I thick it will commit each and everyone of us if we can run
down the line and give our feelings of a straw vote. All tight. Mr. Mayor I am all
in favor of a $200,000.00 for After School Care. I am committed.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Mr. Reboso.
Mr..Reboso: I agree also.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson.
Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor I am ulternately opposed to picking out one and then leav3-g
the others. I think you got to look at all this program and make sure that we deal fair-
ly, honest and squarely with the whole program.
Mr. Plummer: No problem.
Mayor Ferre: That's really the only way you go at it. And that's what I was trying to
saying the last time.
Mr. Plummer: Well as far as the straw vote is concerned it's not official but it gives
the feeling of each Commissioner and I think in all fairness I have to agree with Father
that we do not make a final decision, but we get the feeling of each Commissioner and let
them go home.
Mayor Ferre: I think you see the trend on this so ----.
Mr. Plummer: But what we are saying, Rose has expressed her opinion. We've all expressed
our opinion. You can go home and sleep well, it's not official, but we've expressed our
opinion and I think we are dealing with honorable people.
Mrs. Gordon: But J.L. the one thing you have to assure them though in expressing your
favorable opinion is that action will be taken tonight. Otherwise the opinion isn't going
to mean anything.
Father Gibson: I want to serve notice on everybody that I am not going to act on one unless
I act on all. That's why these people are here. J.L. - Theodore Gibson isn't going to vote
on any of it unless he votes on all of it. Now, I am not going to stay here beyond 11:30.
Because I am going to tell you who sit out there if you have these men sitting here beyond
11:30 you know what. You aint going to be getting no true opinion, because all of us are
going to be sleeping.
Mayor Ferre: Let's move on. All right Mrs. Verrick I'm sorry you ----
Mrs. Verrick: Without trying to alarm anyone I think there is a definite impact that can
be expected on the community at the release of these men. We understand that most of them
will be people who were close to time of release anyway. But they will be without jobs,
many of them will be without homes, they will be without funds and unless there is a concern
of action on the part of the agencies that are - whose work it is to take care of this
element they are going to be back in prison. Now there is no plainer way to say that than
I've said it and it seems to me that the community has an obligation to get itself prepared
through the existing agencies that work with ex -offenders and you know what they are becaus
they are in my letter and they are in this letter from Dr. Silber and the committee.
I should like to ask that the city whether it be Revenue Sharing Funds, or whether it be
Contingency funds or whether it be what funds that some funds be earmarked and appropriated
to help these agencies prepare for the impact of this influx.
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Mt. pluer: Elizabeth, let me ask you a question? This is being imposed if that's
the word and it might be the wrong word on the counties by the state. in other fiords
we had no say so, the state is the one that Bays we are releasing these people. Now
has any application been made to the state that says ok, give us some rehabilitation
funds to work with these people?
Mrs. Verrick: No, but it will be. But listen J.L. if you get people coming in here
and you get them going back into prison again in the meantime perpetrating something
in the community possibly. It won't do a bit of good to say this was imposed on . It
isn't our obligation. It won't help a bit.
Mr. Plummer: It just seems like to me when the state imposees a responsibility on us
they should impose some funds too.
Mrs. Verrick: Well they may. But we need funds quickly. We'll need more later. We
need any amount until we can get started on the programs that are needed such as work
training programs. We need the help of Mr. Mayor Ferre and Mayor Steve Clark on giving
press releases very carefully that will probably enter some of the employers to open
up jobs. These men are going to need every kind of service there is. Some of them may
have families here and may have a place to live. But some won't. And you know what'll
happen unless they are ready for it.
Mr. Plummer: I want to take just a half a minute.
Mrs. Verrick: But not my half of minute.
Mr. Plummer: Not your half a minute. I want to express something. I don't think anything
has been given any thought too. Why and this is the thought of J.L.'s, why can't some of
these thousand men that are being released early be earmarked to state institutions. I am
speaking of like Lantana gospital that they can be released a year early and serve 6
months in that state hospital where they can be provided with a room, board and a
of some kind. Now that seems like something in an area that hasn't been looked into.
There's many institutions.
Mrs. Verrick: I think it should be looked into.
Mr. Plummer: Everything that the state operates that could be a damn fine help of getting
some of these people to work in those organizations. Pass it on to whoever it's appropriated
with.
Mrs. Verrick: I sure will. Now I didn't give you any amount because I can't give you any
amount. It depends how much the city has to give. Whether it's Revenue Sharing or what.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Verrick I don't know of anyone who has more moral influence on this
Commission than Elizabeth Verrick. I know we already has a park, and there's a gymnasium
and there are going to be at least three or four other things named after you and I think
this is not only a tribute to you, but I think it's a indication of the estimation that
this Commission has not only a view but of the work that you do, so therefore I want you
to rest assure that this Commission and this administration will always listen very carefully
Now the last time you came here you ended up with a new building as I understand. A new
building down by the Incinerator (old) so you know you got a pretty good batting average.
I would say if you don't have a figure tonight that we listen to the other presentations.
Mrs. Verrick: I don't have a figure. It will take Dr. Silber of the Criminal Justice
one minute to tell you when he estimates.
Dr. Silber: Thank you. At the request of Mrs. Verrick we met today and yesterday with a
number of representatives from probation of parole, Mayor's office, the Manager's office,
Coconut Grove Cares, and some other concerned programs put together the letter you and the
other Commissioner have in front of you and it's estimated approximately by probation of
parole that out of the 1,050 ex -offenders. Approximately 2 to 400 of those will arrive
here within Dade County the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: When will this be?
Dr. Silber: This will be over the next two months starting within a month from today,
so we anticipate by the end of December we will have approximately 2 to 400 clients within
the City of Miami Dade County, at least half of them within the city limits within'the
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City of Miami. And it's estimated that if it costs at least $500.00 for each person
we have between and 400 clients that's between one and$200,000 and if its less than
that. For example, if they do not need residential. If they only need food, clothing
or transportation or job training or job placement. We may be able to get away with
a lesser figure of $250600 per client between 2 and 400 of them which would be between
50 and 100,000 dollars over the sixty day period. So it's an impact of an additional
influx of people into the capacity situation we have right now. Half way hazard that
we have for residential are completely filled. The state ones are filled. Hospital
facilities. Commissioner Plummer pointed out they are filled to the capacity. Jail
fills the capacity, over the capacity over 138 more than capacity. So I think that what
we need is contingency fund with as pointed out on item #6 on page 3 that we need to
have a Consortium of leading citizens to focus tension on this immediate situation in
long terms goals=-----.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Dr. Silber, let me ask you a question. I know that you are
with the Criminal Justice Planning Unit in Metropolitan Dade County. Don't you think
(and I don't mean to placing any blame on the governor or at the state level, but don't
you think that the state has some responsibility when they parole at a very rapid rate,
a thousand criminals who have been serving at Raford and let these people come at an
enomorous rate into the community. Don't they think they have a fiscal responsibility
to the City of Miami and to Dade County and to the other communities will be affected?
Dr. Silber: Yes I would have to agree with you. Yes and we at the planning wear those
many hats but locally serving all of the Municipalities plus Dade County plus ----
Mayor Ferre: All right now I would like to -- Mr. Andrews, I would like to see a
resolution passed tonight if possible and I would like to request that one of my fellow
Commissioner's consider this that we pass a resolution to the Governor of the State of
Florida and to the cabinet and explicitly state in it that we understand that the over-
crowded conditions of the jails and the local communities and at the state level has
required the actions that .the Governor has taken in advancing the paroles of nearly a
thousand people that are serving there time at the state prison. We do not argue with
the necessity of the action, but that we feel that this will have an impact upon these
communities where these people comes from. Because they will come here and they will
need housing and jobs and they will need attention and help. And since the economy of
the nation and especially the economy in South Florida do to the enoromous high on
employmentwhich is now well over 7% and will soon be 10% according to the latest economy
advice that seems to be forth coming that we feel that the state has a fiscal obligation
in helping these communities meet this very serious problem. And that we would like to
be heard as soon as possible at a forth coming cabinet meeting to request that funds be
appropriated from the state level to meet this that we simply do not have the fiscal
under the difficult circumstances to meet this responsibility at this time and
the state really should come up with substantial help. All right if you want to add
that to it that's all right with me. All right does anybody want to make such a motion?
But don't add that 200 million surplus, ok. Is there a second to the motion?
Is there further discussion on the motion made by Commissioner Plummer. Seconded by Father
Gibson. All right call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1157
A MOTION TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE CABINET EXPLICITLY
STATING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THAT_THE
OVERCROWDED CONDITIONS OF THE JAILS IN THE LOCAL COMMUN-
ITIES AND AT THE STATE LEVEL HAS REQUIRED THE ACTIONS THAT
THE GOVERNOR IS TAKING IN ADVANCING THE PAROLEES OF NEARLY
ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING THEIR TIME AT THE
STATE PRISON, AND THAT WE DO NOT ARGUE WITH THE NECESSITY
OF THE ACTION, BUT THAT THIS ACTION WILL HAVE AN IMPACT
UPON THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE THESE PEOPLE COME FROM,BECAUSE
THEY WILL COME HERE AND NEED HOUSING AND JOBS AND ATTENTION
AND HELP; AND SINCE THE ECONOMY OF THE NATION, AND ESPECIALLY
HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT, WE FEEL THAT THE STATE HAS A FISCAL OBLIG-
ATION IN HELPING THESE COMMUNITIES MEET THIS SERIOUS PROBLEM,
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AT A FORTH-
COMING CABINET MEETING TO REQUEST THAT FUNDS BE APPROPRIATED
FROM THE STATE LEVEL TO MEET THIS; THAT WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE
THE FISCAL WHEREWITHALL UNDER THE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES TO
MEET THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
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Open being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. pluMmer, Jr.
CoMmissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Would you see Mr. Andrews that this gets out tomorrow morning with a
personal letter (r think) from you to the Governor saying that the Commission took
this and that its a very serious matter we want immediate attention on it?
Mr. Andrews: And may we take the liberty in this case to even explain in the letter
that this occurred this night and you adopted this motion and those blueprints may
not cost as much as you just stated.
Mayor Ferre: Well you word it. I am a little long winded at 10:30.
Mr. Lloyd: Will it be possible for us to get a copy of that first thing in the morning.
Mrs. Verrick: Would you care to ask the County to send a similar letter to the State
Cabinet or do you want us too?
Mayor Ferre: No let's do it this way. Paul would you call Ray Goode's office tomorrow
morning and tell him what we did and ask him to do the same thing and to advise Mrs.
Verrick when this matter will be coming up and send him a copy of Dr. Silber's letter
and the statement that was made by Mrs. Verrick the other day, which I think was very
---- You have a copy of that don't you Mr. Andrews? All right thank you.
Now, next speaker will be Mr. Emilio Lopez. You got three minutes.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I will take less than three minutes Mr. Mayor. After listening to
Mr. Plummer and out of the 27% of the monies that we pay to Dade County and looking at
the programs that represented tonight.
Mayor Ferre: What programs are you speaking for Mr. Lopez?
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I am speaking about the programs that are related with the school
system. There are at least 275,000 dollars of these funds that are being appropriated
for things that could be done by the school system and I think that it's in my opinion
and if somebody really thinks about this. In my opinion is doing a disfavor to this
city.
Mayor Ferre: Are you talking about Child Care Centers?
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I am talking about two or three programs - I say Community Schools,
Mayor Ferre: Day Care, After School, Child Care - all right.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I am speaking about that and you know it's hard to come over here
because I know all these programs are really needed, but there are other programs that
we over here that are also needed and they are probably more basis need for the
people of this community of Miami that do not have the chance to get funds from Dade
County funds or for the school system that are self tax institutions. I think a better
look should be taken and to these programs that are going to be funded and there are
other programs in this community that are more needed and let this school system handle
their own problems and that's my question. I would like to know why these people are
getting those monies when there are other programs over here that should be funded?
Mayor Ferre: I think that this is something that we will discuss when we get down to
the
Mr. Emilio Lopez: I want you to take this into consideration.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Vice Mayor you pick the next speaker. The next speaker
David Cerf. Dave my apologies for the long wait.
Mr. D. Cerf: Thank you Mayor Ferre, Mr. Vice Mayor and other Commissioners. I am here
really for Rev. Thedford Johnson who is the chairman of the Board of the tenant Security
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Association who you will find on page 23 at the bottom. It was a proposal for
$98,000 there. Reverend Johnson's mother is recently deceased and he had to leave
early. 1 would like to first say from what I've heard here today there is certainly
a lot of need in the City of Miami. However I think the time is short and funds ate
even shorter. There is just a million dollars and many of these programs take up a
large percentage Just by themselvesand our program will take (say 10%) but I would
like to suggest that you consider priorities. We say that when it comes to a tenant
when a problem comes up, it's an emergency matter. The person is being put out of
their house. Now I think it's very important for the children but if their parents
and the children don't have a roof over their heads all the education and Day Care
in the world or legal services and all these other things will not help them. So I
would like to say that we would like you to consider our request as an emergency matter
of top priority. Further more and I think most important this program was funded the
last year. This City Commission voted for last year out of the Revenue Sharing money
to give $50,000. We have an appointed board. We have some of the leading citizens of
this city on the board. Reverend Johnson is the chairman. We have people like Mrs.
Eunice Liberty whose the president of the National Council of Negro Women. We have
Tannie Dean and others. We think that for the last year Rev. Johnson, Tannie Dean,
Mrs. Liberty and the other people on the board have carefully watched the way the city's
money has been spent to see that the city got its dollars worth. And we think to be cut
off without any notice after they've done a fine job in our opinion is not the right
thing to do. We would like you to consider how we were cut off. Now the County in
essence said about two tenant proposals says that and I am overtime. If I could have
one or two minutes.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. David Cerf: The County said, listen we have a County tenant service so why fund the
other tenants services? But I want you to consider the County's bias. The County is one
of the largest landlords there is. They have public housing 1800 tenants, so when a county
tenant who lives in the City of Miami has trouble do you think they are going to go to
the county agency and get any help. I have personally defended in court suits brought by
county against public housing tenants where the county is represented by the county attorney
and wants to put people out of their houses, like things for having barking dogs in crime
areas. So I think it is not right to have the county say we have county services. Now
on the other hand I am also shockingly have had to defend suits brought by legal services
against people. The legal services, in fact I saw a legal service attorney who represented
a Latin landlord who drove a cadillac and had a silk suit in court and the judge says what
is this? That is right and I'll be happy to present the court files.
Mayor Ferre: I tell you what you do you bring that tomorrow if you would to Mr. John
Lloyd's office and I want you Mr. Lloyd to look into that right away, because we are not
about to fund a program where we are defending people in that capacity.
Mr. David Cerf: I think that that's a factor you should consider. Noone's perfect but
this is one thing in my experience it was shocking. Now I would like to say that I have
an interest last year my office received $3,200 of Revenue Sharing money. Out of that you
've gotten services of one attorney, two law clerks, one bi-lingual, and one legal secretary
and I think that I am not pushing our efforts but I think that there is a reasonable charge
for certain services. Basically we say that the county - when you had the county evaluate
the tenant services you had the fox guarding the chickens and we think that because of the
performance and as being previously funded that we should be refunded again. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Mr. Cerf.
Mr. Julio Avello: I represent Spanish-American Coalition. AftealSe[ggpetitions that
have been made here and to have read the summary report especially page 21. I have
decided to withdraw our request for funds and on the other hand compliment you the
brillance with which it was put together and if this is something that has to do with
the City Manager. I really compliment you for that. It says here there are a number
of organizations involved in planning and research activities for persons in Dade County.
These organizations include: Metropolitan Dade County, United Way, Area -Wide Agency on
Aging, etc. I didn't know that these agencies existed. For all the practical purposes
of service offered to us. They might as well have been on the moon because they really
haven't done anything for us as far as a advocate group is concerned. We had intended to
make a presentation to you from the standpoint of advocacy. We noticed at that point has
just been touched upon and has not really been addressed in the common area except up on
top and what we had intended to do was to make sure that the Spanish-speaking
are represented. We were and we still in tend to do it fight for human rights. We don't
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want to raise charity. We want to raise hell and had intended to begin by this
Commission so I just wanted you to be aware of_that.
Coi ents from some of the Commissioners - (laughingly)
Manor Ferre: I still don't understand what happened. The Vice Mayor has chosen
Lazaro Albo - Action Community Center,Inc.
Mr. Lazaro Albo: W. Mayor, Members of the Commission. Like it say over -
here in the recommendation you got a mistake. -- ------ is 1818 West Flagler Street
and the name is Little Havana Neighborhood Center this organization got here .the
chairman is Walter Silber, M.D.--------- - ---- Accion Community Center, Inc.
has nothing to do with the Little Havana Neighborhood Center.
Mr. Plummer: Is the request the same. But the 150,000 is what they were asking for?
It's right here page 2 Rose of the breakdown of the entire summary.
Mr. Lazaro Albo: 1, the budget chairman for the Little Havana Neighborhood
Center and the Accion Community Center is a private organization for helping the poor
people. I request $150,000. I refer this Commission to give me only money to buy two
mini buses and pay one salary for one constructive people.
Mayor Ferre: All right excuse it is on page 5. It is called Accion Community Center,
Inc. page 5. Is that the right name.
Mr. Lazard Albo: This is the right name but this is a private organization
for the 1818 West Flagler Street, the name is Little Havana Neighborhood. I am the
Vice Chairman for two years full term. I request for $150,000 for giving transportation
for the poor people, old people and I would like this Commission consideration in giving
money to buy two mini buses and putting one social worker giving proper attention to
people to go to hospital and take them to the social security and similar community.
I am not asking for $150,000. I agree if you give me money for two mini buses and one
social worker. Thank you very much. About$30,000 .
Mayor Ferre: Is that what you are asking for now? $30,000 rather than $150,000.
Mr. Lazard Albo: For buy two mini buses and putting one social worker to take
the people old people to the hospitals and giving services.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this, are you getting any funding now? Does this program
exist at all?
Mr. Lazaro Albo: No this is the first time this program existed. It existed
before in 1971 United Fund give us $25,000.
Mayor Ferre: But United Fund is not funding it anymore.
Mr. Lazaro Albo: . It does not fund it anymore.
Mayor Ferre: Why?
Mr. Lazaro Albo: When Accion is a neighborhood center and Dade County picked it
up. Little Havana Activity --
Mayor Ferre: Whichis the same thing that Mr. Villaverde was talking about today.
So in other words it is being funded through the county and what he's requesting now is
for two buses
Mr. Lazaro Albo: Two buses and one social worker.
Mr. Andrews: To supplement the program.
Mr. Villaverde: This cooperation started with a grant from the United Fund. When the
money was withdrawn it became part of Community Action Agency and the cooperation became
inactive and then they are two separate agencies at the present time. One on the Communit
Action Agency which is funded under the County and this organization that Mr. Albo is
presented at the present time is an independent program that you want to start for trans-
portation and one social worker, is that correct? Thank you.
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Mrs. Gordon: Would this be a compliment to your program?
Mt. Viilaverdet No. 1 have nothing to do with it. I am just explaining. See that's
on the County. That's on the County. I have nothing to do with the pr•ograin.
Mayor Ferret All right. Does everybody understand now? $30,000 not $150,000 that's
all.
Mr. Albo: Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Any questions? Mr. Ortiz .
Mr. Armando Ortiz: Honorable Mayor Ferre, Vice Mayor, Reboso and Commissioner Gordon
and Commissioner Rev. Gibson, we came here very early today and we are not wise in the
way of City Hall and we had a lot of people here with us. Our lawyers left and some of
our friends went over to get him now. I hope he gets here before our time elaps. Our
Reverend and our priest went away.
Mayor Ferre: What group are you representing Mr.----?
Mr. Armando Ortiz: Miami Intergrated Aid. And here I am hoping that this is not the
seventh day in which the Lord rested, but we come here because we believe in our project.
Mayor Ferre: A11 right then I'll recognize you a little bit later on and we'll just take
the next speaker and hopefully and I'll recognize you when your group comes. All the
next speaker is Mr. George E. Hepburn,Jr.
Mr. G.E. Hepburn,Jr.: Mr. Mayor, City Commissioners. 4984 N.W. 22nd Avenue representing
the Model Cities Development Corporation of Dade County, Inc. I fully understand and I
sympathize with those members of this committee that had the responsibility of making
these recommendations to this Commission. However I find it very difficult to accept
the comment that was made in reference to our proposal ; its on page 19 of the review.
It states: The United Way does not have sufficient expertise in this area to make
comments. I shall not burden you with reading the program. I think most of you can
do can do this for yourselves.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, I hate to interrupt the speaker, but to assist him. This comment
comes from United Fund. It does not imbrace all of the comments that I would have and may
I suggest that a.s you listen to the speaker that you relate this to the Housing and Comm-
unity Development Program which this kind of program fits more closely than it even does
Federal Revenue Sharing. It's going to be my recommendation that there are about four
such programs here on housing that this City Commission is going to have to entertain very
closely when we get into that program.
Mayor Ferre: My Hepburn I might say just to save you some time that your comments that you
made and Father Gibson was there and Plummer was there and I remember of course, being there
when you made (as a matter of fact) I remember specifically that the Manager came up to me
and said you know this man makes a lot of sense in some of the things that he is stating
so I just want to reiterate to you that what you are going to say I've heard. I don't know
whoelse has heard it here, but the Manager's -----
Mr. G.E.Hepburn,Jr.: I am not going to repeat what I stated at that meeting. What I'm
merely trying to say the comment itself said something to me that was not pleasing. It's
very difficult see-- I think the comment should have been stated that maybe this proposal
should come under Community Development Act, but don't tell me you have a staff of people
who reviewed these programs and they say they don't have sufficient expertise in this area.
Now I am wondering what would happen when we talk about Community Development or we going
to get this same kind of comment. And I see if the recommendation or comment was a little
bit different other than they do not have this kind of expertise. If they didn't have
it than they should have seeked it elsewhere. That's all I'd like to state here and I will
be looking forward to approach you about the Community Development Act. Thank you.
Mrs. Gordon: Your point is very well taken.
Mayor Ferre: All right Mr. Hepburn, thank you. The next speaker is going to be Dr.
Raul Cuadrado.
Dr. Raul Cuadrado: I can see here on pages 13 & 14 that the batting average of F.I.U.
Florida International is pretty bad this evening. But I just wanted to mention one
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program Which 1 think that you should consider for funding and that is the one 02
to &earn and Earn ; Pre4ocational Training Program for Exceptional Individuals.
1 have asked Mr. Michael Echolberg, who is going to be the principle investigator
of this program if he gets approved to speak to you for a few minutes.
Mayor Ferret Excuse me. You are talking about in your program that starts off on
item #2, is that right?
Dr. Cuadrado: Yes at the bottom of the page Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Cuadrado are you speaking of an education program?
Dr. Cuadrado: No. that is not an educational program Commissioner Gordon, he will
explain it in detail.
Mr. Plummer: This is the one that the request call for $25,000.
Dr. Cuadrado: No.
Mr. Plummer: Oh I'm sorry. Wait a minute $243,000.
Dr. Cuadrado: Thereare two different budgets there.
Mayor Ferre: Learn and Earn ; Pre -Vocational Training Program - provide academic,
recreational, and vocational services to exceptional adolescents and adults. Exceptional
adults are defined as educable and trainable mentally retarded, emotionally disturbed,
socially maladjusted and physically handicapped. $243,845 or $168, --- now why the
variation? Oh I see the number of people, ok. All right.
Mr. Michael Echolberg: We are making a plea for a funding to start this program. The
purpose of this program would be to provide academic recreational, and vocational
services to exceptional individuals which will help them to live happy and productive lives.
In order to serve these exceptional individuals the best programs possible should be brought
into Miami. At this time too many prospective employees who are exceptional are forgotten
and wasting their lives in uninspired situations. These people are not involved purposely
in their own communities. This grant will facilitate the establishment of vocational,
social, recreational, and occupational programs to be made available now and in the immediate
future to help these people become more completely involved. It would help assist in
determining what new,programs are needed and how to bring these programs to the except-
ional and particularly Black & Spanish-speaking exceptionally individuals. This grant will
allow for needed planning to bring the exceptional into a more positive and adaptive roll
within their community as well as provide expanded participation within the Greater Miami
Community at large the new roll and outlook on life. There is a continuance demand and
desire for competence and reliable employees whoever they may be. It is this objective
we wish to fulfill. The program will produce additional skill and efficient workers to
fill a need throughout the state as well as within the county. During December of 1973,
Florida International University put together a pre -vocational training program for except-
ional adolescents and adults. The purpose of this program was to take exceptional adoles-
cents and adults and introduce them to pre -vocational experiences. The program did not
intend to train the students but rather to promote the desire and further the incentive
for future vocational placement within the community. All forty-one participants were
community residents. F.I.U. stressed the philosophy of providing mentally retarded
adolescents and adults an opportunity to experience through practical application the
vital skills necessary for working and living within the community. During the course of
the program students had the opportunity to visit many work situations within the community.
Transportation to most of these programs was by public bus. By the completion of the
program better than 901 of the people enrolled learned how to compute by bus and did so
everyday. And 36 of these students were in full time vocational programs. Due to the
tremendous excess of the program during the summer of 73 and requested by the community fo
continue this type of program F.I.U. continued the program again. The format remained the
same with a few exceptions. Three locations instead of one and from a service of forty-one
students-to.110. this grant would realistic determine which vocational programs are best
suited to be offered to the desired population an investigation will be made to determine
those programs which have been successful elsewhere and that could easily adapted locally.
A full evening occupational, social and recreational skills program will be further implem-
ented for introduction to the exceptional adults for greater carry over to the total
participation within the community. In addition learn and earn will run throughout the
year, particular for the Black and Spanish-speaking minorities who are not being served
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through a year. A number of these learn and earn units will be converted to true
vocational units based on the information received through a planning investigation.
Evening occupational courses will be taught to help the exceptional individual gain
a basic information and skills needed to succeed in the working world. Florida
International University School Service Center within the Division of University
Services and continuing education would like to initiate this program. It is our
feeling that through this program exceptional individuals can be served more adequately
now and hopefully in the future. Already plans ate prepared for furniture assembly
line work shop and together with the South Dade Chamber of Commerce, a proposed re,
cycling processing plan for exceptional adults will be trained and employed. With
these existing training programs and the proposal described before you.greater coordin-
ation will be made to allow exceptional individuals, greater exceptence within the
total community. We would hope that we could receive a minimum of $30,000 of that
which was asked to budget before you. Thank you.
Mrs. Gordon: Have you asked Dade County for any money?
Mr. Micholberg: Not at this point.
Mrs. Gordon: I wonder why not? You are in the county and you will servicing the
county people. How come you are not asking them?
Mr. Michael Echolberg: It was our desire to gear the program for most of the population
or I should say part of the population that would be residing within the Miami proper
area.
Mrs. Gordon: I know but it's a good chance for them to give us back some of the 27%
Mr. Plummer mentioned. And you are in the county and that would be a good way to get it.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this, how many people would be out of the City of Miami in
your program?
Mr. Michael Echolberg: We've received conservative estimates. It would be unfair for me
to give you a figure but based on the definition that we are using for exceptional individ-
uals which is inclusive of educable and trainable mentally retarded, physically handicapped
emotionally disturbed, and socially maladjusted. We are talking about a few thousand
individuals residing in Miami alone. There is a conservative figure that is being worked
on a stud.y by the Governor's committee of employment of the handicapped that approximately
10% of the school age popultion and we are talking about the above school age population
is considered retarded along by T.Q. definition.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, what you are saying is that $30,000 would be the minimum
that would start the program.
Mr. Michael Echolberg: I am saying that those by definition, those are the number of
individuals that are represented in residing within the county at this point.
Mrs. Gordon: Within the county is that what you said?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission. I want to point out that one
reason one of the major reasons we did not recommend this is because this is steep in
the educational field which is - makes it prohibited to fund from Federal Revenue Sharing
Funds, but there was one aspect of their program that might be explored in the future. And
that was the recreational aspect which would fall under the requirements of Federal' Revenue
Sharing Funds.
Mr. Plummer: Do you put the After School under recreational?
Mrs. Gordon: Could you possibly set this up within the city limits of maybe -- you know
through your organization but in the city?
Mr. Michael Echolberg: Yes ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: I mean you are out so far. I am trying to see how the people can get to
you quicker and easier.
Mr. Michael Echolberg: Through the aspect of the division we are working under this would
come out of the off campus program. The aspect of this program is not primarily of recreat-
ional nature, but primarily of vocational nature.
Mrs. Gordon: Could you run it at one of our parks perhaps in some building we might have
available or something?
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Mr. Michael Echolberg: Alteady we have been discussing it with the parks and recreat4.
ion people.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh-- good then it would fit in our catagory. Ok.
Mayor Ferre: A11 right. Dr. Cuadrado is there anything else that you would like to
add to this or any of your other recommendation? This is a recommendation that you
want to give the most emphasis to of the ones that you are requesting funding for.
You are now about $30,000. All right thank you. The speaker will be Eufola Frazier.
Ms.,Eufola Frazier: Thanks to the Mayor and the Commissioners for allowing me to
speak for the Tenant Education Association of Miami. I live at 43 --- my office is
4300 12th Avenue. The Tenant Education Association of Miami has being serving as the
Education Information Service for the tenants not only in the City of Miami but for the
county. We are before the City of Miami tonight to ask your City of Miami to consider
funding us to serve the tenants within the City of Miami. I have here this brochure.
We have more than 20 different units here that have called upon us for services and every-
one of these units are within the City of Miami. According to the recommendation you
I see that we have a program that is similar to Housing & Urban Development. Yes we hope
that our program could be equal to the Housing Urban Development, however the Housing &
Urban Development do not serve tenants beyond public housing. Therefore we have tenants
in private housing that are in the same economic level receiving the same income, paying
twice as much rent, who are depressed and are having far more problems than tenants are
in public housing, so therefore we are asking the City of Miami to help us to serve the
tenants in city which is in Model City and since that portion of model city is
within the city and it's more highly density than any other part of model city. We get
more calls from there than we do any other section of model city. In the central district
we are getting calls, there is no service at all for the tenant in the central district,
especially the lower and middle income. the lower income. In Coconut Grove we had a call
just today .and we have served in Coconut Grove and we have thousand and thousands of calls.
We have had calls and referrals from the Chamber of Commerce, Better Business Bureau,
Housing and Urban Development, United Fund, United Way. We have been called upon as an
agent to help a tenant and tonight I have here with me a mother that lives in private
housing and sadly to say that last night she had a two month baby and her little girl and
they slept out doors all night, but they came to us today and tonight we have a place for
them in private housing and I would like that Mr. Mendez who is the Vice President of the
State of Florida and we are the founding organization of the State of Florida for tenants
to speak and he was a board member of TEAM and I have a parent with me. I would like for
her to speak.
Ms. Betty Garborough: I live at 6132 N.W. 20th Avenue. I 'm in private housing and we
would like to see if we can get funding for the TEAM with Ms. Eufola Frazier because
they are doing so many wonderful things for the people in private housing and we would
like to get some of the thing that the people have in public housing. Because of the
amount of money that we are paying in private housing. Thank you.
Ms. Eufola Frazier: Could Mr. Art Green speak a word for us?
Mr. Art Green: I see a lot of eyebrows raising now. Green calling to speak for the
tenants but it may interest you all to know that that's my job representing the tenants.
The Landlord and Tenant law was drawn by two men. Bill Williams and Art Green and not
one tenant showed up doing the 14 months it took us to draw that bill. May I say very
frankly it's all summed up here in this paper you have before you. On page 23 I think
it is. Yes 23 with respect to the request of the Florida Tenant's Association this
proposal appears to offer a comprehensive service to tenants; and you can believe me
it does the most comprehensive service that any similar organization does. Metro Dade
County's Housing & Urban Development Program as Mrs. Frazier told you they only handle
public housing. I've never had any of them get in touch with me and she doesn't need
any lawyers, but she renders a great legal service, because she has the best tenant's
lawyers in town. Young men get $11,000 a year and I know that they can start at $15,000
in private law practice. Mr. Dixon's organization has some pretty fine lawyers and she
has the use of them. and I am here to tell you I am paid by the landlords but I have to
represent the tenants and their problems, that's my job. And Mrs. Frazier does an
admirable job.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Now. you want to say something?
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Mr. Jose Mendez: As you remember Mr. Mayor I have geared for a moment the flour
for Mrs. Frazier said she was going to make the introduction for such it matters.
Mayor Ferre: Yea.- but you must remember that I also stated that everyone would
have a 10 minute limit. I will recognize you for a brief statement and then we
will get into some questions,
Mr. Jose Mendez: Mr. Mayor as Mr. Green perhaps indicated before when I first met
Mr. Green knowing that he was working for this organization. I first met him on the
floor in Tallahassee. Mr. Green was ------ for one part of the landlords and I was
for the part of the tenants. The history of the Tenants Education Association of
Miami have gone beyond the years that they are talking about in their proposal. As
Mrs. Frazier indiciated to you this organization has not only been recognized by
every individual organization in town that has been working with tenants for the
last ten years. But I have also been recognized by the establishment in Dade County
by the Housing and Urban Development of Dade County whenever there has been any advice
given of tenants, any imput by tenants. It has been this organization the one that
has been called upon to give such advise. The Tenants Education Association which
is an outgrow of the Tenants of Florida they have done a magnificient job and I can
tell you that there are no words to put in that proposal simply because it would tkae
probably months to read it. Months to read the volume of the work that this organization
have done. I would appreciate it as a past president of this organization as a present
board member of this organization that you highly consider an organization that is studied
penniless . Giving services to the people of Miami, giving services to the people of
Dade County that you highly consider this organization before you think of funding an
organization that perhaps thinks of big salaries and big spending. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Now Mrs. Frazier I would like to ask you and I think Rev. Thedford Johnson
is the president of a group that has a similar intention and a similar purpose and when
he came to talk to me I asked him if he had discussed this with you and he said he had
not. I recommend to him but he discussed the possibility of both groups getting together
since you will be doing the same thing. I know that you have a Board of Directors you've
got to consult but I would respectfully like to recommend that you do this and I think
I'm just expressing one opinion, but I certainly think that this is one area where the
citizens and the taxpayers of Miami and I think the people of MIami have a responsibility
toward a segment of the Community that perhaps needs more help than any other group of
citizens in our community and that just happens to be my personal opinion.
Mrs. Frazier: Mr. Ferre, you know I'm sorry that I didn't know about that until after we
had gotten here today. As you know -- I would like to say that besides that attorney is
here and we spoke to him, but he could not offer us a proposal or anything to see and so
therefore we you know couldn't make any decision.
Mayor Ferre: _Dave are you still here? I think it's important that you follow up on it.
Mr. David Cerf: I think that's a fine idea I've often. I am admirable of Mrs. Frazier.
The organization takes a little different tact but I think we have the same purpose and
the same effectiveness anyway. I will try to get with Reverend Johnson in the morning.
If Mrs. Frazier will get with us actually in the proposed budget, I guess either one. I
think there's room for all, but I think it will take a sum of about $100,000. Wouldn't
you say so?
Mrs. Frazier: Well I can't make any kind of statements or any kind of commitments at all
because I have a board to be responsibile too and I can't say what my board would say.
Mayor Ferre: We all understand and I am not speaking for the city or for this Commission
I am just speaking for myself. And I would like to respectfully recommend and submit that
to you and I think it would be appropriate if you would come back at some other time.to
further discuss this matter with this Commission.
Mrs. Frazier: But I would like to say that our programs are not similar the services are
different.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission. I would like to inform you that under
the Housing & Community Development Act that it stress Housing & Community Development obvious
ly from it's title. 10% of that area (and I am not sure my facts ) now whether it's applicab
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to only the housing or the Community Development. 102 of that can be used for Social
programs, particularly in the housing area where housing assistance programs can be
developed and I would suggest that you get together with Reverend Johnson and work
out a coordinator plan and come back to the Commission as they're suggesting when we know
more;the regulation are going to be published very shortly now. We will know more about
that program. We'll be in a better position to advise the Commission on these kind of
programs that will help a great variety of people in Miami that are outside of the public
housing law.
: Mr. Mayor can I ask one question before I leave please? Just one question?
Mayor Ferre: We got four more speakers so make it very briefly for consideration.
: Since you.have asked us to go back and sort of negotiate and I understand
that you have already made a commitment that nu decision will be made tonight as far as
the allocations are made.
Mayor Ferre: No, no you misunderstood. What Father Gibson said is that you are not going
to vote on one without voting on all of them. Now we may vote on them tonight. I don't
know.
: All right since both proposals has been submitted. How much of a time of
commitment time do we have from this Commission to fairly come back and sort of negotiate?
Mayor Ferre: I can't answer that I don't know. I wish I could give you an answer but I
can'. t
Mrs. Efola Frazier: Mr. Mayor let me say this? I am very much disturbed right now. Our
organization do not charge people legal fee. The people that we serve can not afford to
pay legal fee nor dues and I think you need to consider these things.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you very much. Now the next speaker will be Mrs. Greenberg.
Mrs. Greenberg: Good Evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission. I represent the
University of Miami Comprehensive Health Care Program and if I may I would like to present
to you the Director of the program, Dr. Selegman.
Dr. Fred Selegman: Director of the University of Miami Comprehensive Health Care Program.
Located in the centre house building in the medical school complex, 1400 N.W. loth Avenue.
I am Associate Professor of Pediatrics and Psychiatry of the Medical School. Our program
is one of 67 in the nation. It is funded through of the Social Security
Act. It has been in existence since 1968. We serve a 10 sq. mile area bounded on the
north by 36th Street, the south by the Miami River, the bay on the east and 27th Avenue on
the west. 16,000 low incomechildren live in this area and I've given each of you a
folder with some information on our program. Services are limited to children of low-income
families. We care for them from birth to age 20 years. Services are entirely free and
conclude a complete range of health services including medicine, nursing, social service,
nutrition, vision, speech, hearing, dentistry, psychology, and psychiatry. We additional
ly provide basic food supplement to all of our children under age 4 years and to pregnant
mothers. We currently serve 7700 children. Comprising 3500 families they get complete
medical and health services, but 45% are Latins, 45% Black and 10% in other categories.
I could of brought you tons_ thousands of children and mothers here today. At no time as
far as our request, did anybody ask us about our request or visit us and Rose Gordon here
on the Commission did visit our program a few months ago. This program was set up to
provide care to children who previously received either no medical care at all or best
episodic care consolely when they were sick. Children are this nations more prize resources
yet they are the most neglected. Our program is part of the new concept of comprehensive
health care. Each program serving a delineated part of the city. In this manner, the
families and their health static become known to the program staff. A thorough of our
target area permits us to detect early hard core handicapped families and families with
potential social and health risks. This permits us to zero in on a troubled family in an
intensive manner. We have achieved much. Our program is nationally recognized. Our cost
of care per patient are lower than the national average. Our approach is preventative,
we keep children out of hospital and thereby reduce the cost of hospitalization to tax-
payers. Our hospital rates are lower than even for children who comes from families with
incomes of more than $15,000 per year. Our program provides outstanding medical care. We
provide the best care that a child can receive in the public sector anywheaein Dade County
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br. Clebeland pediatric. chief of Jackson Memorial Hospital can say that the quality
of are in out program far surpasses that which he is able to provide in the outpatient
department at Jackson Memorial Hospital. In July of this year authority for these
programs was transferred from federal to state. Because of the complex change in the
distribution of funds the State of Florida and consequently our program received a budget
cut of about 25% from 765,000_to 571,000. Coupled with cost of living increases we
initially requested 300,000 dollars from the city so that we could maintain our level of
service. I know that the Commission is concerned by giving funding once and then being
locked in. This will not be the case because the State Division of Health is included
in it's budget request to the governor for next year. A request of an additional $298,
000 of state funds for our program. Now because of our budget cuts we've had to lay off
about 16 of our health staff and I've provided you with the personnel that we've had to
lay off.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you because you've run well over the three minutes. How much do
you actually need at the minimum sum?
Dr. Fred Selegman: The minimum amount as I broken down is that we need $9,116.00 per month
which if you can give that to us for the next eight (8) months of the fiscal year comes to
$73,000 which will give us enough money to maintain minimum services to the remainder of the
fiscal year and then a phase in to the additional ----- funds.
Mayor Ferre: Will this be within the boundaries of the City of Miami serving Miami City?
Dr. Fred Selegman: All of the children live in a 10 square mile area fully within the
City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: If you don't get this funding from the city, where do you expect to get the
funding?
Dr. Fred Selegman: We won't and because our children come in regularly. Right now we have
600 children on our waiting list and we've been able to postpone some of the care that we are
providing.
Mayor Ferre: Are you funded now for this program?
Dr. Fred Selegman: We are funded for $571,000.
Mayor Ferre: And where is the funding coming from again?
Dr. Fred Selegman: The funding comes through HEW to the State of Florida.
Mayor Ferre: Directly through Washington .
Dr. Fred Selegman: To the Division of Health who in term passes it on to us.
Mayor Ferre: All right you are not going to be getting this additional money for the next
eight (8) months?
Dr. Fred Selegman: Not as far as --- we've been promised $571,000.00. So far we've deficit
spending in anticipation of getting a slight increase in federal funds if the appropriations
is passed and that will make up our deficit spending.
Mayor Ferre: But you need an additional to that 7,000 a month.
Dr. Fred Selegman: But $9,000 a month, if we don't get that we are going to have discharge
at least about 2500 patients. Because it's unfair to keep the patients on our registry
without providing them these services that are necessary.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews, why wasn't this program investigated before today?
Mr. Andrews: Because it was our feeling that the basic services are supplied through -the
comprehensive health care programs and that the City of Miami has not become involved in
any kind of funding in this where hospitalization care is required. You are placing a
burden only on the City of Miami and let's have all the other municipalities join with
Dade County. It would be better for it to come from Dade County where there would be
proper distribution and allocation for the entire area.
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Mayor Ferret Let me tell you what part of the problem is. The county has a fortunate
tradition that the moment the City of Miami starts funding something then they say eh-
that's your responsibility and don't even want to touch it. And you know as Mr. Plummer
and I and many others have said so many times not only here but before the Metro Commiss-
ion is that we pay a quarter of the taxes and yet we don't get a quarter of the funds
and services that the citizens of Miami are entitled to receive. You see and they won't
say it publicly but what they say privately all the time. Well you know that's what you
are there for you take care of the people in the City of Miami but that isn't so.
Dr. Fred Selegman: I understand that and we have requested of Dade County, they have not
acted on it although they have said that if the appropriation is increased they'll loan us
the money until the money does come down. But I think it is important for you to appreciate
that it is only until the end of this fiscal gar.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much Doctor. Now any questions? All right the next speaker
is going to be Mr. Armando Ortiz.
Mrs. Gordon: May I just comment on the previous speaker? I did visit the center. I had
been asked to come up and I was amazed at the comprehensive kind of work that's been done
there and if it's at all possible for us to participate or even to partially participate
to keep this thing alive. I think we ought to try very hard to do that.
Mayor Ferre: All right thank you very much Doctor. Mr. Armando Ortiz. Mr.Ortiz do you
have all of your people together now?
Mr. A. Ortiz: Over here on my right is Dr. Manolo Vasquez, a lawyer and a professor. To
the honorable members of the City Commission. The proposal presented here and supported
by the non-profit organization Miami Intergrated Aid covers three of_the eight ethnics.
enunciated in section 103 of public law 92-512 entitled fiscal assistance to a state and
local government an aims to offer preventative health and legal assistance to
individuals. There is our sign right there. Miami Intergrated Aid . Inflation demands
this kind of intergration. An intergration for legal and health service and when we say
of green light don't stop it, we mean it. This is primarily aim at the Spanish-
speaking population which constitutes 52% of the population of the City of Miami. This
services do not exceed for the direct and exclusive use of the City of Miami right now.
As we intergrate both services we aspire to have more facilities to be useful at a lower
cost. Addressing ourselves to the observation made about this proposal in the recommend-
ation made by the City Manager's we want to formulate the following clarifications to the
first observation made by the City Manager. We want to clarify we are very aware to say
the lest of the existence of the legal service in Little Havana. 1500 persons from very
similar cases were attended in 1973 and an equal number due to lack of time was left un-
attendent. Preciously it is this very existence which justifies our proposal. They do not
concentrate exclusively on cases from the City of Miami. They receive half of their budget
from the city and the other half from the county. Therefore they handle cases from all of
Dade County. We aspire to concentrate our services exclusively in the area of the City of
Miami. If you read in detail pages 5 & 6 of this proposal you will find the need for these
services. 112. Making a projection based on working days we can note that our project will
incurr in a daily expense of $993.07. In negligible amount if we'll serve that we will be
capable of attending sixty-five cases a day with an average cost of $15.00 per day, both
health and legal. If this is used to the maximum we could attend 17,000 cases per year.
#3 in regard to your description and qualifications for such jobs we must point out that
if this time is taken to read the proposals carefully, the answers will be easily found.
On page 6 will state that the cooperation will provide both services with the professional
staff require for each. I will have to summarize. We believe firmly in this program,
because we believe that health takes present over other considerations and we belive that
people are entitled to legal assistance, so to expound on this I will call now on Dr.
Manolo Vasquez.
Dr. Vasquez: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission. I am an attorney and professor of
law at the University of Florida. I am involved with the Cuban American Lawyers Institute
and we hope to give you two hundred more Cuban attorneys in this town pretty soon. I
speak in support of this program because I believe that we need it and it is necessary
for my own personal experience I have referred cases to legal services and when they go
down there they say oh- we'll give you an appointment in five months from now. This is
totally unacceptable to the legal profession since we are referring these cases to the
these people who are supposed to take care of the poor people of this city. We need a
body of lawyers and inconjunction with the medical profession of this city to give services
to the poor people of this city and as such and I support fully this program in that I
know these people will help the poor people. Spanish-speaking people of this city and
as such I support it wholly. Thank you sir.
Mr. A. Ortiz: And now I would like to call one more person please.
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Mr. Humberto Hernandez: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. I work for a
school. t have come here tonight as a concerned citizen to voice my
support for Miaini tntergrated Aid. As we envision the program -----= rendered
medical and legal services to the need Spanish-speaking people of this community.
My experience working with the courts has been that this sector of the community
has been unrepresented as fast as legal services are concerned. I would like to
see these people being protected in their civil rights by having his proposal
approved tonight. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you some questionspresentation of legal services
tonight with the Legal Services of the Greater Miami area, why would the legal services
tht you are talking about not be covered by their program?
Mr. Humberto Hernandez: We believe that they are very refused. We believe that the
City of Miami requires greater concentration of legal services than they have been
receiving up to now and we believe they there is a great need because of the language
barrier and because of how complex american law is for people to have an increase in-
tensify legal assistance in order to prevent legal damage to them.
Mayor Ferre: Have you tried to discuss this with W. Dixon or Mr. L. Salies for the
different people involved.in legal services.to see how they can operate, improve, expand
the extent of their program?
Mr. Humberto Hernandez; Well other of our lawyers (you know) and most of our concerned
citizens have acquaints with those people. I myself you know
Mayor Ferre: The question is rather than creating a new program can't we incorporate
it to the existing program? Is there a reason why we can't do that? To serve the needs.
Mr. Hernandez: Well you know how it is when an organization gets going at it, it harder.
Mayor Ferre: Now with regards to the medical services, let me ask you this? We have
of course that falls within the Metropolitan Dade County purview for the most part and
the City of Miami as you have heard is not gotten involved in medical services up until
now. Did you know that?
Mr. Humberto Hernandez: I would know that but it is my argument here tonight that legal
suffering and also physical suffering should take present. I see here in the Miami Herald
they use the word that the lion's chair of the budget have been given to youth activities
well I have all kinds of respect for youth activities myself and I really would like to
advance programs for the youth. But I believe that the health of the people is one ---
I think we should reassess our values and our priorities.
Mayor Ferre: Well you see the point is not that we don't give it priority or value but
that it is being covered by another segment of government. See - in other words that
doesn't fall within our responsibility and Metropolitan Dade County is spending as you
know. I think in this budget that went over 50 million dollars. It's over 50 million
dollars in health services.
Mr. Humberto Hernandez: Are you saying Mr. Mayor it is sufficient to cover the pay
pains of the people -----
Mayor Ferre: No I am saying that the government unit that takes care of that is the
Metropolitan Dade County government and they are spending over 50 million dollars to
cover the health needs. Now whether they are doing it well or not is not what I'm talk-
ing about. I am not saying that we shouldn't take the responsibility. I am not talking
against your proposal. I am just saying that I want to point out that Metro is involved
in the health care areas and that the City of Miami is not. We do not do that. Just
like for example, we are not involved in transportation. Now that doesn't mean that we
shouldn't - should not look into mini buses which we are now doing or other types of
transportation programs , but that is not being within the responsibility. We are not
responsibility airport. We are not responsibility for the seaport: We are not respon-
sibility for health and welfare programs. We are not responsibility for housing. Now
that doesn't mean that we shouldn't interest ourselves in housing. I accept your point
but I am saying that we have not ----
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Mr. Humberto Hernandez: I see your point Mr. Mayor, you know - our argument here
tonight is that we should begin to be responsibility like the bible says -"now is
the acceptable time, now is the time of salvation: Right? And I believe that we
should start acting now regarding the health problems of many of our citizens of
our poor people.
Mayor Ferre: You know I would like to respectfully submit to some - it's late in
the evening and sometimes a lot of these things seems funny, but let me tell you. I
am not too sure that the indigent and the poor are in more need of the monies of this
community and the people that need and are proverty stricken and do not have the
proper means to support these services,.that a lot of these other programs do not
necessarily go to the poor and the indigent and the people who need the programs.
I am in any way speaking against the Day Care Centers. I am saying that I don't
think that the request of some of these people are as foolish or as funny as they
sometimes may seem to some. Thank you very much. Are there any other questions?
All right. We have three more speakers, Mrs. Nicky Cruz.
Rev. Rodriguez: Good morning Mr. Mayor, it is so late I don't know whether it's
night or morning. I smpathize with you for your patience in listening to so many
wonderful claims. I am represented here the Nicky Cruz Outreach for the Spanish
young drug addicts. And it is our contention that everyone of the worthy causes
that has been so well represented here tonight to serve your concern and your help.
The only thing that we want - even our friend here mentioned the bible a while ago,
that you were given some of the crumbs that comes from the table of our masters, so
that we can do the job that we have planned to do in helping in the rehabilitation
of so many of our youngsters really faced out with one of the greatest problems of
our day. Not only here in Miami but all over this country and may I say all the
world over. One of the biggest problems of our country today is the drug abuse pro-
blem by youngsters. Young Ingersol Director of the Narcotic Bureau of the United
States has expressed that the drug traffic is a big problem that affects every city
and each of them should develop a plan to find the solution to this critical situation
We believe also that our program is unique in many ways. One of them that we don't
transfer the patient, the drug addicts from the drug that he's used or accustomed to
use to another drug. We council and it has been proved in cities as Raleigh and Fay-
etteville, Fresno, California, Columbus Ohio, Florence, South Carolina, Huntington,
West Virginia, Portland,Oregon and even in Puerto Rico. It has been proved that our
method of therapy and counselling is very affective. We would like to---- we don't
want to take all of your time-- we know that you are tired and we are too. But we
would like to request that you consider our request for over $100,000 for this program
we need to get it going . After we get it going we are sure that many of the churches
and groups concerned with the drug problem in our community will help us and this will
not be of any expense to the ones that we are planning to help. It will be free to the
drug addicts that we are trying to rehabilitate. We are deducting from our previous
request $9,600 because by the grace of somebody we have denotated a house where we can
at least began operation as soon as we have some money.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Let me ask you if I may let me ask you this question. You know
there are well over a dozen drug programs in Dade County. Most of them, by the way, within
the City of Miami. Some people think unfortunately.
Rev. Rdoriguez: Unfortunately and probably not enough.
Mayor Ferre: Some people feel unfortunately, but anyway let me ask you why aren't they
doing the proper job and what would you do different from what they are doing?
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Rev. Rodriguez: In the first place, I believe there is a great need that we are not
meeting the demand. We are not meeting the needs of the people. It would work, the
problem instead of being increasing would be a decrease, so somewhere along the way I
believe that we are not doing the job properly. We don't claim that we were are the
,only one that can do it. We just want to put our hands on it and do it too. Be one
more of the group that is doing it. Because we are not going to do anything sitting back
and just ----
Mayor Ferre: All right. Let me ask you the second question. The City of Miami isn't
funding any of these programs now that I know of are we? Funding?
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Mt. Andrews: No not funding them directly,
Rev. Rodriguez: That's fine because you should start with us. That would be a good
thing to do (you know)_ . if you are not helping the others you help us. At least
you can brag about it, you -know. We have the Nicky Outreach, you have to start
somewhere.
Mayor Ferre: You can't argue with that.logic. Are there any other questions?
Rev. Rodriguez: To tell you the truth Mr. Plummer, we want to get started any amount of
money that will help us get the program started we will start it. We already working
without funds, so if we have funds we will continue to work and if we don't have it we
will continue to work. But if you can help us that will be boost to our work and I'm
sure that we will get more funds from some other people.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
Rev. Rodriguez: Have a good night.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you. Thank's for your patience. Next speaker is Marie Alvarez.
You are the lucky last speaker.
Marie Alvarez: I would like to extend the appreciation for -ill of us, because you gave
us time and consideration and I hope that you in consideration to keep this program
going. We need it. Thank you very much. (After School Program)
Mayor Ferre: All right. Anybody else want to speak. It's almost midnight. What is
the will of the Commission at this point. The juncture of the game.
Mrs. Gordon: I think you better hear from Father Gibson, he was the one that raised
some questions before.
Mayor Ferre: I will hear from any member of the Commission that now wishes to be recog-
nized on that subject.
Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor I don't think we need to kid ourselves. I think after six hours
of continuing hammering away listening to the people out of fairness to them and to us. I
think we ought to adjourn.and come to some conclusion at a later day.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mrs. Gordon: I might raise some very important questions once more. The very important
question is what happens to the After School Care Program if we don't refund it tonight?
Father Gibson: Rose, one thing I'm sure ---
Mrs. Gordon: I don't want to argue with you Father.
Father Gibson: I don't want to argue. I am going to speak my mind. You speak your's.
Let me say, if the program is that near gone, God help it.
Mr. Plummer: They don't want God's help they want ours.
Father Gibson: God has no hands but our hands to do his work today. He has no feet but
ours to take his people in the way. He has no eyes but mine you know to look for him. I
happen to know those lines you know. And I don't want nobody to think ... let me tell all
of you this. You may not like what I'm saying but I'll tell you this: If you don't adjourn
you are going to end up all of you regretting it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Father I am told by the City Manager the After School Program is funded
until the 25th, based on that there is no reason that we can't have another meeting. It's
going to take a meeting. No, no, it's going to take another meeting Mayor Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: All right let's choose the date.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask you a practical question? The sum we are asking for is for the
period of eleven months. Can we at least see it within our heart to fund a month of that
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`mtttties that we are going to be funding, so at least they know they can continue this?
The day before tells them (you know) yea - now you can maybe not you know.
Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I am going to tell you this, I am not going to vote.
Mrs. Gordon: Well Father there is four others here, can we move it?
Father Gibson: Beautiful, beautiful, I serve notice now I am not voting: If we are
going to cut the pie,cut it all now, if you aren't going to cut it all don't cut it!
Mayor Ferre: Let me
Mrs. Gordon: I am just saying it's on a count basis.
Mayor Ferre: Let me speak for a moment on that. I tell you. I think ---- I go along
with you Father in your request in your feelings about that we vote on everything together,
however I'd like to ---- I think I would like to at this late hour where we're all very
tired and I know that I am a little bit edgf on --- it gets late and we tired and we
get a little rough-, at least I do. But I want to tell you I think that this is an on-
going program. That doesn't justify it, because their are a lot of others we've got to
weigh:the needs and necessities of all of the different groups that are here. And I
understand that, but it isn't their fault that either that this thing's taken and it isn't
our fault, but the fact is that it has taken a long, long time and I think the request to
fund this for another month is not an unreasonable request under the circumstances.
Father Gibson: Then fund them all for a month. I am for funding all of them for a month.
Mayor Ferre: I wouldn't mind going for funding all the on going programs for a month.
Father Gibson: I am for funding all of them for a month ----Man!
Mr. Plummer: Maurice, look I've made my statements known about that particular program.
If for some reason we cannot have another meeting to take care of all at one time on the
24th we can allocate, but I am telling you that as far as I'm concerned that we'll take
care of them all at the same time. That's fair ----
Mayor Ferre: A11 right. Let's set the date. Because obviously
will of the majority. Do you feel the same way. Reboso did you
He said he feels the same way. Ok. that's obviously the will of
far as I am concerned let's not waste anymore time arguing about
want to choose?
that's going to be the
say the same thing.
the majority. And as
it. Now, what day do you
Mr. Plummer: Well let's see if we can let's choose an evening please, how about Monday
evening the 21st?
Mrs. Gordon: Sorry I can't be here.
Mr. Plummer: How about the 22nd,
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me call my secretary.
Mrs. Gordon: Can you mate it early Monday, say around 5:00 P.M.?
Mayor Ferre: Everybody 5:00 P.M. Monday. agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Commission,
on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at:
12:00 O'Clock P. M. Midnight
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
ATTEST: H. D. SOUTHERN
City Clerk
RALPH G. ONGIE
Assistant City Clerk