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CITY OF MIAMI
COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON FRIDAY - SEPTEMBER 27, 1974
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OFTYHEACLTY CLERK H.O.CITYCSOUTHERN
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RALPH G. ONGIE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
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CRIME & PROSTITION - COMPLAINTS - BISC. BLVD.
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DEFER PAYMENT ON ASSESSMENT LIENS
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LATIN COMMUNITY STUDY - ACPTG RECOMMENDATIONS74-1056 22 -
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STREET LIGHTING MAINTENANCE - DISCUSSION 26+$
HEMISPHERIC CONFERENCE FOR WOMEN - DISCUSSION 74-1058
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NIGHT CLUBS - FIRE REGULATIONS - PROTEST
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REZONING REQUEST - BOBBY DYKES - 2600 South
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Dixie Highway - DISCUSSION
HURRICANE RELIEF FOR HONDURAS - PLAQUES, 74-1059 39 - 4,
PROCLAMATIONS, ETC. - MISCELLANEOUS
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LATIN COMMUNITY STUDY - APPROVING
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - MEDIUM DENSITY
MULTIPLE - R-4 DISTRICTS
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDING - OFF-STREET
PARKING & LOADING
14. BUDGET HEARINGS - FIXING DATES FOR PUBLIC ON
MILLAGE INCREASE
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BUDGETtORDINANCE (INTERIM) - 1974-75
BUDGET - FINALIZING &ADOPTING - 1974-75
BUDGET - INCREASED MILLAGE - PUBLIC HEARINGS
BUDGET - FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING - 1974-75
PLAT ACCEPTANCE - LITTLE RIVER CENTER
PLAT ACCEPTANCE - HELLER TRACT
ACPTG COMPLETED WORK - DRAINAGE PROJECT E-31
AC PTG COMPLETED WORK - MARINE STADIUM BOAT
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 27, 1974
CITY COMMISSION OE MIAMI, FLORIDA
H-4371 - NOTICE FOR OBJECTIONS - COMPLETED
WORK - NW 51ST TERRACE ALLEY.
ITEM NO. SUBJECT
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24. HANDICAPPED PERSONS (WHEELCHAIRS) - FUNDS
TO MODIFY CITY HALL RESTROOMS
25. URGING TREE PLANTINGS - NW 20TH STREET
COUNTY ROAD PROJECT
26. MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM - WAIVING RENTAL FEE -
MIAMI JACKSON HIGH SCHOOL
27. BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM - WAIVING RENTAL
WOMEN'S CANCER ASSN OF U. OF M.
28. LITIGATION - DISMISS APPEAL OF ALBERT J.
SHIFFAUER V. CITY
29. CLAIM DENIALS - VARIOUS
30. FUNDS - SERVICE AWARDS FOR EMPLOYEES
31. BUS BENCHES - ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS
32. MODERN POLICE HQS - FUNDS FOR ARCHITECT
33. SR-5374-C & S - ACPTG BID
34. AFRICAN SQUARE - ACPTG BID - PROPERTY
DEMOLITION
35. ACPTG BID - FERTILIZERS & CHEMICALS
36. ACPTG BID - GAME TABLES
37. INSURANCE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES (ACCIDENTAL
DEATH) - ACPTG BID
38. ACPT BID - DAY CARE CENTER SUPPLIES
39. BUDGET (DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT) - ADOPTING
MILLAGE (DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT)- ADOPTING
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GAS FRANCHISE - CITY GAS -COMPANY - GRANTING
41. CIVIL SERVICE RULES AMD -CREDIT FOR SENIORI
• ON PROMOTIONAL EXAMS
42. RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM - FIXING DATE FOR
HEARINGS
43. ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARD PROPOSALS - DISCUSSED
44. VIRGINIA KEY - APPRAISALS OF PROPERTY TO BE
ACQUIRED BY WATER & SEWER DEPT
ORDINANCE OR . .
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CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
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45, TAXICAB HEARING - GRANTING TRANSFERS
46. TAXICABS - ALTERNATE USE STUDY - REPORT
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47. MINI -BUS APPLICATION - PUBLIC HEARING
48. WAIVER OF DEVELOPMENT OF PARKING SPACES -
APT BLDG AT 5TH AVE & 34TH ST -DISCUSS
49. MEMORIAL COMMITTEE - APTG ANNETTE EISENBERG
(Note: This was an error and later rescind
50. DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE
APTG MONNA LIGHTE & DOLLY MC INTYRE
51. SUNSHINE LIMOUSINE SERVICE - LICENSE PROBLEM
52. LATIN RIVER FRONT PARK - FUNDS FOR UP -DATING
APPRAISALS - ACQUIRING PROPERTY
53. SEWER LINE FROM INTERAMA TO VIRGINIA KEY -
OPPOSING ROUTE ALONG BLVD
54. ERNIE SEILER - NOMINATION TO COLLEGE FOOTBALL
HALL OF FAME - ENDORSING
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COCONUT GROVE BANK - BLDG PERMIT FOR DRIVE-IN
TELLER MODIFICATIONS
COCONUT GROVE ARTS FESTIVAL - CLOSING STREETS
& USE OF PARK
CARNIVAL AT OLD SHELL'S CITY SITE - JR.
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MINtTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF TEE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI,FLORXDA
On the 27th day of September, 1974, the City Commission
of Miami, Florida met at its regular meeting place in said city
in regular session.
The meetingiwas called to order at 9:00 o'clock A.M.
by Mayor Maurice A Ferre with the following members of the
Commission present:
Also present:
Commissioner J.L. Plummer
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A Ferre
P.W. Andrews, City Manager
Andrew P. Crouch, Asst. City Manager
John S. Lloyd, City Attorney
H.D. Southern, City Clerk
Ralph G. Ongie, Asst. City Clerk
The pledge of allegiance to the flag.
On motion of Mr. Plummer, seconded by Mr. Reboso,
it was unanimously agreed to waive the reading of the minutes
of the previous meeting.
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1, DELEGATION OF CITIZENS TO REGISTER COMPLAINTS ABOUT CRIME,
PPROSILTUTIIOONTACTIVITIES IN THE AREA OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD
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Mayor Ferre: Before we get into item #3, I have a group
of people who are here this morning that live and work along
Biscayne Boulevard in the N.E. portion of Miami and they
came, about 15 of them yesterday, because they were very
upset about the conditions they are finding in their neighborhoods
and I think that it is important and I asked them to come here
this morning. I told the Manager about it and they want to be
heard by this Commission and I think it is a matter of sufficient
impact that we ought to listen to them.
I also had, coincidentally another group of people front
Flagle r Street and they came in with a petition signed by
300 people and they wanted to be heard, and I told the man
who broug#t the petition that we didn't have the time but I
would recognize him for a few minutes if he wanted to make
a statement before the Commission and we might have to set up
some kind of hearing on these items because they are similar
and related -and they basically involve the Police Department,
and basically involve their safety, the people in the respective
areas and specifically deals with prostitution in the City of
Miami.
What I would like to do, ladies and gentlemen, we have
to set a time of no more than half an hour because we have
a long agenda this morning so what I would like to do, is
I will recognize, ----if you will maybe have three spokesmen
make your presentation and limit you statements to no more
than 5 minutes and then I"think we can get this on the record
and the City can react to it, and we will see what we can do.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor since Item 3 is a public hearing,
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1 suggest sir, you announce the public hearing and I'll
[Hake a motion to defer it until this item is concluded.
Mayor Ferre: Is anybody here on item #3?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, Item #3 can be heard at 10:00
o'clock. The notice was sent out by public works in a letter
that this would be heard at 10:00 and we published the notice
for 9, so introduce it and defer it till 10:00 o'clock.
Mayor Ferre: Is anybody here on Item 3? You are here
for item 3, --=--I hope you forgive us but this is an urgent
matter dealing with the safety of people. We will have to
defer yours for about an hour. We will get to it about 10:00
o'clock.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I make a motion we defer items
3 and 4 until 10!oo o'clock.
It was unanimously agreed to defer these items until
10:00 o'clock.
Mayor Ferre: Would you step'forwcrd, why don't you
tell the Commission what you told me yesterday, and who
else would like to speak this morning?
Your name and address for the record.
Aaron Manes: My name is Aaron Manes and I live at 7700
Biscayne Blvd. and I work at 7301 Biscayne Blvd. and I have
been on the Blvd for 10 years and my family lives there and
most of the group with me today live on Biscayne Blvd. many
have lived there 20 or 30 years. I have been here 10 years
and I have seen many changes. It has been worse in the past
year or two than every before.
Mayor Ferre: What has been worse?
Aaron Manes: Pardon me, ----the way things are with
prostitutes walking up and down the street, more crimes lately
more disregard for police authority than ever before. Yesterday
we spoke with the Mayor and Commissioner Plummer and I told
him some of the problems we have been having lately but I
see it as two main problems, and one is the disregard for
police authority on Biscayne Blvd. The girls walk up and
down the street soliciting business, we have drug pushers
relatively openly. There's crime daily. The girls work out
on the street in front of two places primarily, but they
are up and down the strip between 61st and 75 or 76th Streets
and they walk out all day and all night, the afternoon, morning
rush hour, it doesn't make any difference to them. Sometimes
there is harassment by the police. On occasion there is an
arrest, but I have yet to see a girl that has been arrested
that hasn't been back on the street in less than 24 hours
regardless of the number of arrests, or the reason she was
arrested or the way she was arrested. I personally witnessed
three arrests the night before last and yesterday morning
the same girl was arrested and supposedly she has been arrested
a dozen times now. She was back on the street this morning.
I spoke to a police officer, for a first convictiori,mandatory
15 days in jail, 2nd, 30 days, after that I believe 45 or 90
days,randatory, but the same girls are being arrested time
after time, and back on the street again, and this is hurting
us in other ways. If other areas of crime can see that the
girls can operate freely, they say how strong can the police
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this area, how strict can supervision be, so because of this
I feel it is directly responsible. l was held up on the 27th
of August, most of the places on Biscayne have either been
held up directly at gun point or have had their stores broken
into. The Shell station on%76th in Belle Meade was held up
at 9o'clock in the morning. TWO men drove in around the corner,
walked up and put a gun in the operator's face, that is what
happened to me, my night clerk, our other motel, the Gold Dust,
at 77th Street we have had for 10 years now, has been held up
numerous times. We have had customer's, patrons of our motel
park their car, before they could get out of their car, they
have been held up. There has been violence in the area and
talking to policemen in the area, they stop in many times,
there is almost a wave of crime going between the railroad
tracks and the Bay and they say there is no way they can
stop it. What we are here for, we know you are somewhat
aware, if not totally aware of the situation, I know the
Mayor and Commissioner Plummer are, we were speaking to
them yesterday, but I think what we would like to hear is
some sort of definite commitment that something is going to
be done about this, and some action is going to be taken
so we can actually see some results, because to see a crack
down one day, and see 80 police cars patroling the area and
not a single person on the street, we know that can't last
because+we have seen it happen too many times before. It
happens on Biscayne and Sunny Isies and 79th Street where
there is a massive patrol ind a massive stop and question,
and two days later right back to the same thing. I don't
know why they are allowed to get a foot -hold, why girls
are allowed to walk the streets, sometimes without being
questioned and sometimes being harassed and then letting
walk on. I don't know if there is no police or what, but
whenever something like this happens, something should be
done about this, sometimes stopping them and sometimes not.
Mayor Ferre: Who is the next speaker?
Mr. L. B. Knox: My name is L. B. Knox, I own the
Knoxon Motel which diagonally across the street from this
hang-out for'the prostitutes. This man is right in front
of me, and he is correct in saying that it is worse than
it has been heretofore. This is 24 years for me at the
sane location, and I have never had prostitutes walk to
the door, ring the bell, and ask me what room this truck
driver I saw come in, would you please tell me what room
he is in, and that has never happened before. Now you folks
had this under control one time. I don't know who is responsible
primarily but you had walking patrols, foot patrols, and these
girls disappeared. Mr. Plummer may be right, if you pinch the
bloom they will break out somewhere else, but I don't think
Flagler Street or Biscayne Boulevard is the place to let that
happen. If we can get that walking patrol back on the Boulevard
I believe that they will disappear again, and I'd like to mention
the name of Ken , he had over 100 arrests to his credit
and he walked in and out the places of . Please give
us those patrolmen back.
T'hresa : I have a small garden motel in the
rear of Andy's Motel. That is where the are, prostitution,
and definitely narcotics, because we see people come from other
areas to get,
Mayor Ferre: Did you say narcotics? How do you know that?
Unidentified person: Yes, because cars stop in my driveway
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with young couples, this is during the day and night, and
the gentleman will get out, and visit this Andy's Motel
and stay there a few minutes and come out again. He does
not go there for prostitution, and I have a right to assume
such a thing.
Mayor Ferret He goes in and out in a few minutes?
Unidentified person: Yes, ----
Mayor Ferre: Is it always the same person?
Unidentified person: No, ---different, nice cars,
Cadillacs, Continentals, and they park down the street
where my neighbors live, they park all over in 74th Street,
the girls solicit in the streets, it is called the red light
district. They park in the driveways, they walk up the
street on 74 and Biscayne, cars can't get through. This is
all day long, also, one of our neighbors, the Griffins,
they had roofers working and the girls approached them,
to see if they have a few minutes, right in broad daylight.
They parade the streets. I personally was touched by a car
trying to park into Andy's Motel which is next to me, ,land
I was sweeping my walk and he touched me with the car, there
is nothing I could, I called the Police, I took the tag number
and the Police said what room number are they in, so we are
very despondent because we feel the police evidently they
can't cope with the situation, and we would like to have some
foot patrol like Mr. Knox said and Nr. Kenneth
he was there, he was able to have the situation under control
at this time, but the police now, either. they are afraid or
don't have the time but they do go there and seem to be very
friendly with the girls. If there is any less, we don't see
them, and the girls are parading just as soon as the police
leave they are back on the streets again.
Mayor Ferre: You spoke very highly of one officer.
Unidentified person: They transferred him, so we would
like to have him back, have foot patrolmen, we are afraid to
go out at night, they have their procurers on the corners,
they have cars up 74th Street and that is where they park,
and the girls come down there. We are exposed to all that.
Mayor Ferre: In your. opinion, is there a correlation
between that and other crimes?
Unidentified person: Yes, the cancer is there, Andy's
Motel at 74th and Biscayne Blvd.
Mayor Ferre: Are there other crime activities other
than prostitution that you see?
Unidentified person: Burglary and holdups, purse snatching
right on my property. I had a guest staying there, I have a
small family hotel, and one evening two ladies were coming
home from Ranch House and they came right on my property
and snatched the purse and ran away.
Mayor Ferre: The point I am trying to make, every time
we take up prostitution, and the problems of prostitution
at the City Commission level, i get all kinds of letters that
come in , from people saying why don't you concern yourself
with important things and leave prostitutes alone because
they don't commit any violent crimes, and the point I think
that has to be understood, we have to repeat it over and -over
again, that it is not limited to prostitution, because with
prostitution comes narcotics, burglary and other petty and
some major crimes. It is not just that simple and isn't limited
just to prostitution.
Unidentified person: I agree with you, narcotics is
involved and it comes from this one particular area and
I think they should do something about closing this place
up, or suspending their license.
Mayor Ferre: As you know that is not in our jurisdiction
about hotel licenses, that is a State matter.
Unidentified person: How come they don't get these
complaints so their license will be suspended.
Mayor Ferre: I think that has been done, and that
is an area we have to pursue with more vigor.
Mr. Plummer: It has been done, and if we have time
today I am going to have the City Attorney explain what
we have been doing through the State agency, if we have
time.
Mr. Andrews: Also, Mr. Mayor when you have completed
hearing from the public, I am going to have Acting Chief
Garland Watkins come and tell you what we are doing with
court in order to assist us with this problem.
Mayor Ferre: I am not going to read all these letters,
you can usually tell when these problems are mounting because
the mail starts coming in, and I'll have copies made and passed
to the Commission, but this typical now, form Mrs. Stewart, in j
N.E. 72nd Street,
"Dear Mayor Ferre, Our neighborhood needs Officer
Ken Legler back to partol around here. We also need
your support to close Andy's Motel."
This is from Ed Cayte, "Dear Mr. Mayor, In 20 years we
have lived at 523 N.E. 70th Street but lately the
Boulevard has gotten so bad we would like to move.
Mr. Garmire had a nice young officer working, and it
really helped. If you please help us to feel safe,
and get him back."
We are getting all kinds of anonymous letters and I'll
pass these on to you Mr. Manager. This problem is beginning
to mount again.
At this time I'd like to call Mr. John Bravo, he has
a petition he wants to present this morning. Mr. Bravo, could
you limit your statement to"5 minutes please. Come on up.
Mr. John Bravo: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
I represent 3 or 4 hundred business people downtown Miami.
All these people complain, that what we have in downtown, it
is no comparison what we used to have 20 years ago. You can't
walk on the street anymore in downtown. People onlevery corner
ask you for money, don't let you pass, they insult you, snatch
pocketbooks and all that. About two months ago, somebody assault.
me, they almost killed me, I was two months in the hospital.
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The police have that report. It seems to me, and all the
business people, they are dissatisfied with
Police years ago, I remember when 1 came to Miami, on every
corner in downtown Miami we used to have a policeman. Today
we don't see them, only passing by in a helicopter or cars,
it seems to me, we should do something about it. Yesterday
I had a conference with Mayor they are going to
put police in downtown, and walking policemen. We want to
bring the City back to what it used to be. We are proud of
the City of Miami, and we will be proud when the City comes
back to the standards it used to be years ago. Make the police
have more authority, to do something downtown, ----we are going
to have a meeting in our in downtown Miami, and we
are going to invite you gentlemen to hear the people, how they
feel about the City of Miami today. Years ago business people
used to have their store open until 10:00, today they go home
at 5:00, they are afraid to be open, because they think they
are going to be robbed or killed. Years ago I sent a letter
to Mayor Kennedy and he promised me he was going to do something
about it, but he never did anything because I don't see any
improvement at all. Therefore I request you, to instruct your
police department to put policemen in downtown.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, I want to make a
brief point to you and see what the other Commissioners want
to say, then we will ask the Manager to respond.
Mr. Frank Wolend: My name is Frank Wolend, I live on
the corner of 74th and 5th Avenue. I was held up and robbed
and a friend we had visiting us was robbed a week later in
a hold up, and his wrist was cut, for several months he had
it in a bandage. The thing about the prostitutes is we had
these Johnnies driving around the block, and they bothered
the women in the neighborhood. We have large families in that
area and there are teen age girls and we fear one of these
days one of the men is going to grab one of these girls.
That is something to think about. The fellows who drive around
don't even stop for the stop signs on the corner of 5th Avenue.
They zip around to get back to catch one of these girls, and
sometimes it is a parade. If you want to put one of these
counters on there, you would be surprised how much traffic
there is on a residential street like 74th, and this goes
on on 72nd, 73rd, 74 and 75th.
Mayor Ferre: Here is what I wanted to say. This is, and
I hope you understand I am not trying to find excuses, I just
want to show you how complex the problem is. I had two young
men try to break into my sister's house who lives right next
door to me on Brickell Avenue. These two young men were appre-
hended and were taken and booked and here is the letter I received
from the Division of Youth Services, State of Florida:"Dear Sir,
the case involving the above named juvenile who was alleged to
have trespassed, ---(they were caught red-handed in the house) ---
alleged to have trespassed, was assigned to me for disposition.
It is my opinion that this case should be handled non -judicially
for the following reasons, ---(in other words, just drop and let
them go) ---said child, is a runaway from Tallahassee Florida and
currently on parole to the Florida Division of Youth Services.
Arrangements were made for said child to return to Tallahassee
cn August 27th. A copy of the Miami Police report is being sent
YouthCounselor in Tallahassee. If you find that this disposition
does not meet with your approval, you have 10 days from the date
of this letter to contact the Asst. State Attorney's office."
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Let me tell you that this child has a criminal record
of several pages and has jumped parole twice and this was
the third time he had gotten away. The problem is, that we
can't, ----the jails are just not big enough to put these
people in jail because there's too many of them in the first
place, No. 2. you get this kind of attitude from the State
and other agencies, No. 3 if you look, ----one of the ladies
here was talking about the fact that she has seen many of
the same prostitutes being arrested and back on the street
the next day. ¶he police department of Miami doesn't have
anything to do with that. What happens is, that they go up
before a Judge and there is no conviction, and back they go.
These are all reasons and excuses. We also know statistic-
ally that this violent crime in Dade is soaring. It is not just
limited to Dade County, it is Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando and many
other cities, but that doesn't make us feel any better, and the
fact is we do have a problem and I think, ----I want you to know
that I this City recognizes it. The problem is, how do we go
about solving it, see, and my attitude, Mr. Andrews, and Chief,
is that we've got to find more forceful solutions. Where there
is a will, there's got to be a way. We have to make a review
of the judicial system, and really go in in a frontal attack
of the judicial system, we are going to have to do that. As
the City of Miami, we have that responsibility to the people
that live here. There is where the problem, if the problem is
with State agencies, we are going to have to address ourselves
to that. If the problem is putting more people on foot patrol,
or bicycle patrol or what have, we are just going to have to
get into that. It has to be a consistent effort. I think what
is happening is, the pattern I see is, we seem to put a, lot
of emphasis on it, we clear up the problem, talking specifically
about the prostitutes on Biscayne Boulevard, they will go over
to the county line, which is what they have done, then the County
cracks down on them, then they go over to Sunny Isles, then they
crack down and then they come back to Biscayne Boulevard. They
go around in a circle, and we just have to keep up continuously.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members ofthe Commission, there
is no doubt in my mind that other crimes stem from the fact
that prostitution is the basis from which these crimes and criminal
element infiltrate into a given area. I want to assure the people
in the audience here as the Commission has in the past, and the
Commission's efforts to cope with the problem of prostitution,
follow the recommendations of the Chief and myself, in adopting
an ordinance several months ago in order to increase the severeness
of the penalties for violation. We will continue our efforts. and
I'll pledge to this commission and the public that if walking
patrolmen'_are needed in order to help curb this, we will assign
walking patrolmen': to do that. There is another facet of this
that you are pointing out that I think is extremely important
and I'd like Chief Garland Watkins to tell you what the Police
Department is doing with the court system in relation to this
new ordinance thatthe Commission adopted, which if it works
successfully for the City of Miami, there is no season it
cannot serve as a model for the entire Dade County community,
so that if all the policing agencies in Dade County really begin
to apply the ordinance and the courts address themselves to the
contents of that ordinance, prostitution in Dade County will be
reduced. I won't say it will be eliminated.
Acting Police Chief Garland Watkins: The sometime previous
meeting was held with Judge Crawford and a committee was appoints
and from this committee, would be work groups to where they could
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address their problems. The complexity of all the problems that
is in the criminal justice system can't be addressed to the
police department. I think this is recognized by the Commission
and the public, but 1 do believe there are indications that all
the criminal justice system recognizes this now, and are grim
to start talking about things that affects the whole syster0,
and start addressing it.
I'd like to point two or three things that maybe we can
clarify the people who presented this today. We have had a
walking beat on the Boulevard and it has been Officer Legler
that's been there. I checked last night from his supervisor
and his work -sheet indicated over 200 contacts during the
past month. I just don't believe he has been visible to the
right people,: and they are correct, we have had an influx
of this shuffling of prostitutes from area to the other,
and the Department is going to put additional emphasis on it.
There are several things that contribute to this. They
have found ways to circumvent the ordinance. They have false
registration cards, they can take a dollar bond, --they take
these false registration cards and they never show up for
court. That is one way they do it. I understand they plead
guilty without a public defender being there, then cannot be
sentenced to jail, then, it is also the Judge has the discretion
not to send them to jail, they can find them guilty, but they
can withhold sentencing on it. I believe some of the Judges
are completely aware of our problem and perhaps some can be
appraised of it through these work sessions.
Downtown, we have had added emphasis, downtown, --I
have figures to show the number of arrests which, the only
thing I can say is that we have, the last month addressing
downtown. I do believe we are doing a good job downtown.
Mr. Andrews: Would you describe a little more carefully
the work sessions that the police department has initiated
with the court in reference to this ordinance, so that we
can have the attitude of the court in reference to the ordinance
so we can bring to the Commission the changes that are needed
that will make it more enforcable.
Acting Chief Watkins: The committee was appointed and
from this the work sessions will be developed. Actually Mr.
Andrews we haven't got into the work groups themselves. This
is the aim Ifor it. We have had full cooperation from Judge
Crawford and other members of the committee. We haven't got
into the work groups themselves.
Mr. Andrews: The idea here Mr. Mayor is to work closely
with the court, for the court to tell us if there are any
portions of the ordinance that we have that is difficult for
the court to enforce in;:terms of sentencing in relation to
that ordinance. Our objective is to try to present to the
Commission so they can adopt an ordinance whereby the entire
judicial system will work effectively, --criminal justice system
will work effectively, in that after arrests are made, there is
an area, an initial step of reasonableness, and following through
with more penalties after that.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Andrews can we say that the situation
is worse this year than last year on the Boulevard? Can we
agree on that?
Mr. Andrews: I can agree that at times during this past
year it was worse than the prior year, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Then 1 want somebody to justify to me
Mr. Andrews, I have a memo which I requested of you on
the 29th of August. It is statistics comparing 73 Jay
with 74 July. During the months of July in 1973, there
were 10 toal arrests in the whole City of Miami for pros-
titution. I will say in my estimation, there is no one
on this commission that knows the situation as well as
I do, in the month of July, after instigating all new
policies doing as much as we can, this commission has
addressed itself to the problem, it was only one more
arrest in the month of July 74, in the City of Miami for
a total of 11, would ybu care to look at it? That is
one prostitute arrested every three days.
Mr. Andrews: I have no way of answering your question
here at the table without more information.
Mr. Plummer: I think it needs answering. I definitely
do, there's more than 11 prostitutes operating out of the
Boulevard. We, the Commission, and you are well aware, Mr.
Andrews, because it was through some of your proposals, and
your ideas that we instigated new action, and for, to show
statistics such as this, that in the one year period, we
only arrested one more than the year previous, I would have
to draw the conclusion, that whatever we did is not sufficient.
Mayor Ferre: That is why we are meeting here this morning.
And the results of that is: -apparent by these people who have
taken their time to come here,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, and I realize we are running
on in time, and it is a concern, Mr. Lloyd, I know this is
going to be tough for you sir to minimize to 2 minutes. Mr.
Mayor I have been personally working with Mr. Lloyd in attacking
this problem from the top back down to Miami, and this commission,
I am only a part of, have been working on the situation, I would
like Mr. Lloyd in no more than two minutes to tell what his
department, through the State alcohol beverage commission, has('
been doing. Mr. Mayor, these are two files which are filled
with everything relating to the subject here this morning.
Mr. Lloyd: One; we first corresponded by letter with the
State Beverage Department requesting cooperation from the
State Beverage Department in hearings when there were license
revocation proceedings before them other than night clubs. In
response to that we have been in correspondence telephonically
with the local director, who has promised complete cooperation
as soon as the Police Department makes cases, and we can even
have someone there from the law department who will assist them
in the presentation. We have an attorney in the Police Depart-
ment that can do that when the cases against these hotels,
motels, etcetera, are ready. -.-Number two; we are in the process
of conducting our own independent investigation, which is
somewhat limited because we have only one investigator. Number
three; we are investigating and asking the cooperation --a
Reverend Mers contacted us about pornography generally. We
have had several correspondence with him. I personally met
with him. He has met with our investigator on two or three
different occasions, and we are securing cooperation from him,
and we are conducting our own investigation in that area.
Mr. Plummer: As the result, Mr. Mayor, I will tell you
without calling names that the worst cesspool in the northeast
area is now closed. These people --I mentioned it to them
yesterday and they are aware, plus the fact that there is one
additional place on the Boulevard itself that is closed. These
are the areas that must be attacked.
Reverend Gibson: It seems to me like these people are here
now. We can't cover the whole city, but we can do something
about their problem. Why don't we tell the Police Department
we want something done ab'$ut it? I get all up tight. These
people are saying that those prostitutes are out there on the
road. Maybe they weren't working, Plummer, in that month;
maybe they were on vacation, but they aren't on vacation now.
That's what the people are telling us. Now the Police Depart-
ment ought to get up off its fanny and go on out there and get
busy; take some positive action. It wouldn't hurt if they are
in the area to every so often stop by those people who run
those motels and hotels who are complaining. You know, I am
going to say something else that I hope everybody will under-
stand. Most of our policemen walk around with their nose up
in the air and they don't see these people. It might be well
to speak to them every once in a while so thDt we can get some
good public relations for the City. I defy one of you to say
no, because I walked in here this morning and I said, good
morning, and dog gone it it was as if I was an animal. That's
right. And I am not angry about that because that is no great
big deal to me, but I am saying that if they do it to me, man,
you know what they are doing to those people out there; and I
think that what we ought to do is to say to the Police Depart-
ment, these people have a terrible, pending danger problem now.
We want some action.
Mrs. Gordon: I'd like to touch on just one thing that you
mentioned before, Mr. Mayor. Chief Watkins, would you come to
the microphone, please. The Mayor mentioned a matter which
touches me personally with regard to the criminal juvenile.
who has a long record, and as you know we consulted, you and
I. Two young men entered my home, fifteen years old, as you
know, and stole jewelry, as you know. Where are those young
men now, please tell me?
Garland Watkins, Acting Chief Of Police: I don't know
what the Juver;ile Court found the disposition was, but I will
be glad to check and apprise you.
Mrs. Gordon: It looks to me --and I am touching on a
similar situation --it's crime, whether it's crime in the
streets, prostitution, crime of breaking and entering, or
what. It's crime. rbw where are the fences that are taking
the jewelry? How much are we going after them? Those are the
people who are responsible fplr the juvenile criminals. They
sold thousands of dollars worth of jewelry for fifty or seven-
ty-five dollars. You see what I mean? Those are the people
that we are not clamping down on, and I believe that if we
made any effort we would find those fences and we would put
them where they belong, behind bars.
Rose ; Mr. Mayor, my name is Rose
House of Beauty. In the morning between nine o'clock and five
o'clock I have a parade of prostitutes strolling in front of
the beauty salon where my customers are afraid to come in. In
the month of February I had two women at two thirty in the
afternoon when the beauty parlor had a lot of people. We
called the police and it took more than three quarters of
an hour before they came. I really am afraid for my life
and for my customers, because my business goes down because
they are afraid to come to my beauty parlor.
An unidentified person appeared and complained of the
soliciting for prostitution which was occurring in the area
to an extent that the residents were afraid for their lives
and properties.
Mayor Ferre: This is a good case in point. Iwant to re-
peat it again and again. Prostitution goes, beyond just the
crime of prostitution. This lady was burglarized. Her hone
was robbed. They tore into her house. She now has put up
lights. She had to put up an iron fence. She had to change
the locks on the doors. They sleep with all the lights on.
These people live in terror, in fear; and this is the prob-
lem. It isn't just the prostitution; it is all the things that
come with it. It's the burglaries and the narcotics and all
of the other crimes that come along with prostitution. Now
here is a couple who have lived here for many years who now
live in complete fear. Their lifestyles have had to change.
Mr. Plummer: I believe it was Mr. Andrews who told me that
when the Commission put the pressure on the Boulevard about
six months ago that within thirty days other related crimes
dropped in the area about thirty per cent.?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: So, you see, Mr. Mayor, I think that proves
what you are saying; that with the prostitutes go a lot of not
only petty but serious crimes, and it shows that six months
ago when this Commission instructed the Manapr to put the
pressure on, they did and the prostitutes left, and we heard
the screaming from Sunny Isles, but also the statistics of
surrounding crimes dropped within a thirty -day period almost
thirty per cent., and I think that's a very important point.
Let me ask one other question. Iwas under the impression that
there was more --you know we saw the headlines about the bicycle
beat. We knew that there were two or three beat men. I per-
sonally know that Lager was up there; that Harris was up there,
and there was one other. Now I rode up there last night and
there was not a beat man. Is there a reason for that other
than being over-all short of help? And Chief Watkins, please
don't be afraid of telling the truth. If you are short-handed
and that's the problem, please say so.
Chief Watkins: IN that I always tell the truth, Commissioner
Plummer. I am not afraid to tell it. I have no explanation
without going back and checking it. The orders are that that
beat is to be covered seven days a week. I have a report say-
ing that it has been covered for the past month seven days a
week; from nine o'clock until seven o'clock P.M. we did have
an officer up there, Officer Lennen was on the beat.
Mr. Plummer: Well I was up there about nine or nine thirty.
Chief Watkins: We may have to adjust the hours of the beat,
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Andrews I have talked to you about this
on two or three occasions and it is something that has to be
done Presently in donkown Miami, on Sundays we have no beat
policemen, none. And I am going to tell you something, there
is only one person that knows it better than I do, the people
doing the break-ins. I don't know if it is within the purview
of this Commission to set a policy to say in substance, that
we want beat men in downtown Miami on Sundays, but if it is
within our purview. I want to make a motion right now or you
tell me Mr. Andrews it is not necessary, I don't care, but
I am going to tell you something, when those theaters empty
out on Sunday afternoon and Sunday evening, havoc is the
prevailing circunstance in downtown Miami on Sunday. I don't
know what we have to do to get some beat men down there on
Sunday, but something has to be done.
Mr. Andrews: You don't have to pass a resolution on
motion to that effect.
Mayor Ferre: I want to make this statement, and I hope
nobody misinterprets, or misunderstands, back in May, or
earlier this year, we got into this furor after the Grand
Jury report, as to whether it was baised or not biased,or
how effective it was, etc. At that time the Commission
deliberated and we tried to pass some resolutions and
they were not as strong as I would have liked, as you
recall. But I think they had their impact, and at that
time you said, the Commission actually passed a resolution
that you would come back, --it was originally 30 days, then
it was expanded to no later than 60 days, with a full
report. I understand that even though it was not a part of
the resolution itself, you have spent a tremendous amount of
time personally involved in investigating and being physically
there at the police department. Now you and I talked about
this after the 60 days had gone br and that was sometime in
July and since vacations were coming up in August, we, both
of us concurred that it might be a better idea just to wait
until after the vacations. Of course, after the vacations,
which is September, we have been deeply immersed in the budget
procedure, which is pretty well concluded. I think it is
essential, and since it is such am important item, I think
we are going to have to set a special morning or afternoon
or whatever the Commission wants, to have a special hearing
and get your report, and I don't want to be pressing you with
it, but I want to point out, we are now pushing 120 days rather
than 60. I think sometime in the month of October, we really
should have your report and 'get back into this important matter
that we have been in and out of for the past year. So why don't
you pick a date, sometime in the month of October, that is
acceptable to the Commission and let'shave your report,
and get the Chief here and get right into it.
Mr. Andrews; The 24th of October is Commission meeting
date.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I make a motion that the City
Manager give his report on the morning of October 24 at
the Commission meeting, Item I at 9 A.M. I make that in
the form of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: J. L. that would be all right but I want to
make a point here now. Sometimes we get caught on time, because
these things run longer than we always expect. i think you
have to give yourself a good three and one half hours, and
I would say that whatever we do, ---it that is how we want
to do, on the morning of the 24th, I would like nothing else
on the morning of the 24th, and I recommend we start at 8:30
A.M.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question, --Mr. Andrews
I am sure you have some ideas of what your report is going
to be,about how long will it take to give your report?
Mr. Andrews: About an hour.
Mayor Ferre: I think you need a couple of hours for
discussion beyone that, and if it is all right with the
Commission I would like to see if we can start a little
earlier, --let's start at 8:30 on that particular commission
day. Is that acceptable to everyone here?
Father Gibson wanted to make a point.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Andrews can I be assured that you
are going to send, --that you are going to talk with the
Chief, or however it has to be done, I don't know, and
that you instruct, that somebody instructs those policemen
when they go out there, to seed some of the people who operate
those businesses and say, we are out here. I don't usually
follow the police, but I think I am going to follow that up
because I have some serious concern, that I am not expressing
openly right now. I want it for the record, you say that is
going to be done?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: Ladies and gentlemen, I want you come
back here on the 24th whether or not you have seen those
policemen patroling those beats, as he has said so.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, you are welcome
to be here on the 24th for this matter of the Manager's
report, perhaps at that time we can continue our discussion.
Hopefully we will have an improved situation between then and
now. Thank you very much for your presence.
2. RECEIVE SEALED BIDS R. E 4 COURT HIGIVAY IMPROVEMENT H-4360
Mayor Ferre: It is 10:00 o'clock and we have sealed
bids. We need a motion to accept the sealed bids.
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by Mr.
Plummer who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1051
A RESOLUTION TO OPEN_ READ AND REFER TO THE
CITY MANAGER FOR TABULATION AND REPORT SEALED
BIDS RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 26, 1974 FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF N.E. 4TH COURT HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4360
(Mere follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the City Clerk's office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr.
Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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Mayor Ferre: Open and read the bids.
Mr. Southern, City Clerk: The first one id from
Tropical tandtcaping Co., Total Bid $43,575.00,Bid A
does not apply, Bid B doea not apply. Bid C $43,575.00.
The next one is Paul N. Howard, Co. no bid on A,
Bid 8 $957,053.00 and no bid on C.
Holland Paving Company Inc., they bid only on D.
$828,720.78.
Marks Brothers Company, bid on A, $521,402.70, no
bid on B,-C, $62,135.00 .
L.C. Morris Inc. bid A $549,271.17, bid B, $942,717.00
and no bid on C.
Intercounty Construction Corp, total bid $1,550,782.15,
bid A, $621,740.00, bid B, $869,659.75, and C, $59,382.00.
The last one is Capeletti Bros. Inc., total bid
$1,362,370.66, and no break downs on A,B and C.
That is all the bids Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Then you will tabulate them and come back
to us.
OBJECTIONS TO CONFIRMING RESOLUTION
rARDEId SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEt1ElT SR 5385 C AND S
DLSCUSSION OF DEFERRAL PAYMENT ON LIENS QN PROPERTY. UNTIL SOLD
Mayor Ferre: This is a public hearing, objections to
confirming ordering resolutions No. 74-640 and 74-641 for
Garden Sanitary Sewer improvements, sideline and centerline
sewers. Are there objectors to this item here? There are
objectors, how many would like to apeak? People who want to
speak?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor I'd like to have the Director
of Public works to show the Commission a map and describe the
district boundaries and what it entails.
Mr. V.E. Grimm, Director of Public Works: Mr. Mayor and
members of the Commission, this is part of the City's continuing
program to complete its sanitary sewer system, Garden Sanitary
Sewer is that area in the City which is north of 20th street
to the City limits and from 17th Avenue west to the City limits.
It comprises about 300 acres and affects about 1500 different
properties. I might also add it is one of the most complex
areas that we have in the City by virtue of the fact that
interspersed in this area are existing sewer systems which
are 27,'26, but generally speaking they are old concrete
sewers in here that are almost 50 years old. I am not going
to say to the Commission that these sewers are deteriorated
and inadequate and that is the reason we are replacing them.
I have to replace these sewers because in order to collect
the sewage in the remaining area and get it to our interceptors
and pump stations, it is necessary that some of these systems
be dug up and replaced with larger pipes. Now, in this area
as you can see from the audience, we have had nine objectors
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that we have received written or verbal communications on,
and of these 9, 8 are for that reason, because they have
existing sewers and they don't feel the city should assess
them again. I would remind the commission it has the authority
under the Charter to reduce assessments for one reason, and one
reason only,and that is based on benefits. If the Commission
so instructs at the time that the assessment roll is prepared.
I will come before the Commission and make a recommendation to
them for a reduced assessment for those properties which are
having their sewer replaced, about 1500 . This is one of the
most complicated districts we have ever had.
Mayor Ferre: 1 want to repeat that statement so that
the Commission all understands, and the public understands.
What has been stated here is, that if the Commission so
instructs the Manager that they can come back with recom-
mendations of reduction of the assessed value, is that
the way it would work, ----
Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir, ---
Mayor Ferre:----on your property, is to take into
consideration the fact that you already are sewered3and
this would be an added expense. You understand? Everybody
understand that? Okay.
Mr. Grimm: 1 think in essence, Mr. Mayor that covers
our side, ---
Mr. Andrews: We will answer any questions the public
may have, ---
Mayor Ferre: And so that perhaps you might save some
time, I think somebody on this Commission might offer that
resolution, and then if not, I certainly will, and then we
can listen to you because this may solve most of the objections.
Mr. Andrews: ---a resolution offering, directing me to
come back to the Commission at the time we finalize the district
to make recommendations as far as relieving certain costs for
those people who have sewers in place, now. who are going to
be replaced because we have to modernize the sewer system.
Mr. Plummer: No question, I'll offer it, ---
Mrs. Gordon: I seconded it because I think that really
is a hardship for people, it is not their fault, -
Thereupon the motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer,
seconded by Mrs. Gordon, was passed and adopted by the following
vote AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso
and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, that should simplify
some of your problems, and I hope some of your objections. If
you want to speak to it i will recognize you at this time.
Theresa Haarr: My name is Theresa Haarr, at 2627 N.W. 30th
Street. I have no ;;use for the sewer, and I can't afford it. I
don't want to be togged down with the axtra expense for 10 years,
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager will you explain what we just
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did, to this lady?
Mr. Andrews: Ma'am, do you have a sewer now at your
home?
Mrs. Raarr: No, I have a septic tank, for 35 years,
it has done me very well, and I object to have that extra
expense put on to me at this late hour of my years.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
I recognize the difficulty this lady may hhvb, but it is
extremely difficult on the part of the Commission to try
to exclude any one property owner over another. Out policy
is to try to sewer the City, we have been doing this for 25
years in this program of trying to completely trying to
sewer the City and do you realize that you will be able to
make payments on this sewer over a 10 year period.
Mrs. Haarr: I am 72, I don't think I will live out the
10 years, so what then.
Mr. Andrews: Please don't say -that, youi are going to
live a lot longer than 10 years. I don't want to be bogged
down with that expense, it is all I can do to pay the taxes
and minor repairs on my home, and I want to stay there.
Mr. Andrews: I'll have Mr. Grimm have someone contact
you and I can't make any promises or commitments but we
will see if we can be of assistantce in your case.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, I want to express a thought.
You know, you can't take blood from a stone, and by the same
token, if someone does not have money to pay these kind of
things, what are they supposed to do. My question to you is,
is there a way of deferring any required payments until the
property is sold, by way of a lien on the property.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, let me recall to your memory, we
have on the ballot for a charter change that instead of
a 10 pay out, it is a 20 year pay out,is that correct?
Mr. Grimm: No, sir, the Commission can fix the limit
of the length of paying for the assessment, and they have
done that as 10 years, however, your November change is to
reduce the assessment by 25%. I might add,----
Mr. Plummer: Reduce it, or reduce it down to 25,----
Mr. Grimm: Reduce it by25%, I might add also that
the circumstances of time, in the area of this district, it
will be close to three years from before they even get it
built.
Mayor Ferre: Did you hear that Ma'am?
Mrs. Gordon: But you didn't get the point at all, because
maybe this lady or other people on fixed income that are not
earning any money aren't going to have any more in three years
maybe less with the rate offinflation, can we, legp.11y, arrange
for a deferred payment in a lump sum manner when the property
is sold, which means that if the party decides to sell her
property, the lien then becomes due and payable. It would not
be waivinglit, just deferring it.
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Mayor Ferre: Of course you realize that everybody
will apply for that.
Mrs. Gordon: So what, it would have a nominal interest
rate, which would accrue on it, and, ---but at the same time,
it wouldn't be a forced payment, and like I said before, if
you don't have it you can't pay it. You are going to cause
some foreclosures with all the tax increases throughout the
county, and these additional assessments.
Mr. Plummer; We looked into that two years ago, and
for some reason it is not legal.
Unidentified person: You have a City Attorney here
that maybe could give you an opinion, but my opinion on
that is, you cannot do for one property what you do not
do for all.
Mrs. Gordon: It could be by request, the individual.
You could apply it over 65, you do that by reducing bus
fares, you do other things for people in special categories.
Mr. Plummer: Rose let me tell you one other problem as
I recall that cropped up, lot of people don't have insurance
on their home and as I recall, they would have to guarantee
insurance in sufficient amounts to cover the lien. In a lot
of homes, unfortunately, don't have insurance, and that left
you with just the property.
Mrs. Gordon: J. L. I think that is a minor point.
It could easily be solved.
Mr. Plummer: I remember two years ago I brought it up
for some reason,
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Lloyd, can we do that?
Mayor Ferre: Let Mr. Lloyd answer.
Mr. Lloyd, City Attorney: The answer is, that the
way you have actually described it, no, on the basis that
of course you can't make specific exceptions. I will have
to research it see, ---
Mayor Ferre: That is not her question.
Mrs. Gordon: I am not asking you to waive it, I am
asking you to defer the payment at the time the property
is sold. It is a lien, and of course all liens have to be
cleared at the time of sale.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, that can be done, but what I will have
to do is check the charter amendment that is on the books,
I don't have in front of me, and come back to you and tell
you how far you can go with that.
Mrs. Gordon: Will you do that later?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Let's go over this so we understand, is
we would pass legislation at this level, that for anybody
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over 65, as I understand it, who does not, or cannot,
pay, that they would apply to the City of Miami, and
the payment would not be due until the property is sold,
and therefore there would be a\lien placed against the property.
and a nominal interest charge, at the time the property is
sold, by that person or the heirs or who ever it was, and. -
Mr. Plummer: ---and collection costs, --
Mayor Ferre:---and collection costs, that at that
time then that amount would have to be paid.
Mrs. Gordon: You see the problems we face today,
all of us are aware of it, we want the people to know
that we are aware of the problem, is that a lot of property
the people have lived in for 25 years, in which they pay
a very minor amount of money for, have inflated in cost
and caused the assessments to go up, therefore their
homestead exemption benefits are almost nil';. and they need
to be helped as much as possible, even though it is not
a lot, it is some help, the same time the City can move
forward in sewering the areas that need to be sewered for
the standpoint of sanitation.
Mr. Lloyd: Remember the homestead exemption for people
over 65 is now $10,000.
Mrs. Gordon: I recognize that but still knowing full
well the value of real estate as,I do, I know the $10,000.
is -wiped out.
Mrs. Gordon: I move that we ask our Attorney to prepare
suitable legislation to cover this point.
Mr. Lloyd: ---providing the determination, ---
Mrs. Gordon: ---that it is within the law, of course.
Thereujon the following the following motion was introduced
by Mrs. Gordon, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1052
A MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
PREPARE AND SUBMIT TO THE COMMISSION APPRO-
PRIATE LEGISLATION TO ENABLE PROPERTY OWNERS
OVER THE AGE OF SIXTY-FIVE YEARS TO DEFER
PAYMENT OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIENS UNTIL
SUCH TIME AS THEIR PROPERTIES ARE SOLD
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr.Reboso Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mr. Rene A. :My name is Rene A.
and my address, is 2032 N.W. 29th Street. I have owned this
house and duplex for approximately 14 years and the home
and duplex ie vexg► old. It is the old exotic Gardens area
of years ago. I have kept the rents down very low, because
the people that live in the area are working people, mostly
Spanish people. When I say low, I mean real low, compared to
the rest of the City. I am a Metro fireman, so this is a
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just a business for me to pay itself off. I have not been
looking for a lot of profit. I had a call last year to the
Public Works, Building and Zoning, and asked them if there
was any proposed sewer or sidewalks to be done in this area,
and they said no, nothing proposed at all. So I have been
basing my rents accordingly to where X even pay the water
bills, so these people can make a decent living, you know
how it goes. Now this comes up, I would like to have the
sewer, not that I don't want it, I think. it Is needed and very
necessary, but the little profit I make on these places,
and I don't mind saying, I make between 3 and 5 hundred
dollars a year profit, that is what I make, so I am not
making a large profit. I am giving the people living there
the benefit of cheap rent and clean place to live. This
is going to come and I cannot absorb it without putting
it on my tenants. Now I have to tell them the rent is
going to go up accordingly, and then I am going to be a
big bad, landlord.
Mayor Ferre: This won't hit you for three years, so
you have three years to tell them, and I recognize it
is rough.
!Mr. Rene A.
too, or just sewers. The
there's no sidewalks, is
just sewers.
:Is there going to be sidewalks
streets are terrible in that area,
this all going to be included, or
Mr. Grimm: Mr. Mayor, Item #4 takes care of highways,
whether this particular street is included or not I do
not know. I'll have to look on my map.
Mayor Ferre: You can check that out.
Unidentified person: How much was the estimated reduction
for those who presently have sewers, anybody decide that?
Mayor Ferre:Anybody'estimate that?
Mr. Grimm: No, sir, I did not, and I am not :trying to
be sneaky about that, but until we get in, and tear out the
old sewers and see what condition they are in, I really
can't make an intelligent answer.
Mayor Ferre: Would you give him your name and he will
contact you when he has those figures available.
Robert Fournier : I am Robert Fournier 1860 N.W.
24th Avenue,
Mayor Ferre: You will be contacted and informed and
at that time if you want to come back and talk to the
Commission, I'll be happy, ----thank you sir, --next speaker,
yes, this is a petition, 13 people, ----"Mr. Mayor and fellow
Commissioners, we the undersigned as owners of property on
N.W. 21st Street between 19 and 21 Avenues, do not approve
of sewer installations on N.W. 21st Street between 19th and
21st Avenue. Many of us are elderly people on social security,
taxes are high and this added expense will be a hardship on
us. We do not want a lien placed on the property, we have
strived to have free and clear as a home in our old age. There
are several on the street who are ill and the dust, noise and
confusion would be detrimental to their health. Please consider
this and defer installation of sewers." (List of names)
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Kathryn Groves: I am Kathryn Groves, 1918 N.W. 21st
Street. In our petition we are requesting the difference
of installation of sewers between 19thend 21st Avenues,
on N.W. 21st Street. This section is 2 blocks in length,
and has a total of 24 lots. Of these lots, four lots have
apartments. There's total of 10 apartments, 13 lots have
a total of 12 houses. There is one vacant lot in there.
7 are without buildings, 6 are used for parking and one
other vacant lot. So there are 8 lots, or 3/8's of the
total with no need for sanitary facilities. Of these homes
more than half the owners are on social security or disability.
We have lived in the time of low wages and are now are faced
with extremely high living costs, inflation, with which to
adjust our income. The high cost of material and labor make
this assessment very large for us to pay. We have been fortunate.)
in having neighbors on our street who are property owners anxious
to make it a comfortable, healthful place to live. They have
kept their property in good repair. Our septic tanks have posed
no problems to us. It would appear that septic tanks are still
acceptable in the county, judging by the number of mobile home
parks you see throughout Dade, so we respectfully request we
be allowed to continue to use our present facilities. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Any comments by the commission.
Mr. Plummer: I think we have made them in the form o
a motion Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: Man, you understand that several of the
things that have happened here this morning, hopefully will
be a relief. Let me go over them specifically as what they
are. No. 1 on the ballot in November will be an issue, you
will be able to vote on, which will reduce whatever costs
there will be, by 25%--No. 2. Commission Gordon has now
recommended and asked for the legal department to present
that people who are 65 or over, who own their property,
will not to have to pay if they so wish, until.their property
is sold, and at that time, pay for any improvements, --No. 3,
you have heard it will be 3 years before any payments will have
to be made. I think we are trying to make it as easy as we
can. The problem is, progress sometimes has a price, and it
really hurts us, and hurts everyone on this Commission, because
we know there are a lot of people on fixed income who will really
siffer by these things, and we are really trying to make it as
easy as possible. I hope this will help some.
Julia B. DeVane: I am Julia B. DeVane, I live at 1995
N.W. 21st Street, and Bob Mitchell who owns the N.W. corner
of 21st Street and 19 Avenue, he has 5 units, and he said he
sent you a letter, but he sent me a copy of the original, in
case you didn't get it. That makes 14,----
I+layor Ferre: This letter is addressed to the Public Works
Department, and I will give it to the Clerk and it will be part
of the record. You thank Mr. Mitchell for us, Mrs. DeVane.
Mrs. DeVene: Okay. Ny husband is 91, and will this
assessment be put on our property before 3 years, or will
it be 3 years before it will be put or.. there.
Mayor Ferre: What Mrs. Gordon has moved, first of all,
it won't happen for three years, and secondly, with what
Mrs. Gordon has proposed to do that this Commission will vote
on, if it passes, then you can apply and not pay any thing
Until your property is sold, until either:you or your husband.
or your heirs, in the future sell the property.
Mrs. DeVane: But it will be three years before it will be put
ion there?
Mayor Ferre: That is right. Thank you.
Vera : I am Vera 1844 N.W. 34th
Street, our sewers are working and X ion't see why they
should be torn up. I Just had my pipes to my house connected
to the street sewer and it cost $1500.00, with that price
and with the price added on to this work would be a very
big bill.
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by
Rev. Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1053
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION
NO. 74-640 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO
ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF GARDEN SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5385-C
(CENTERLINE SEWER) IN GARDEN SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5385 C (CENTERLINE
SEWER)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES:
None
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by
Rev. Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1054
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION
NO. 74-641 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO
ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF GARDEN SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5385-S
(SIDELINE SEWER) IN GARDEN SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE-
MENT DISTRICT SR-5385-S (SIDELINE SEWER)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mayor Ferre, Mt Plummer. NOES: None.
4' GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4374
The following resolution was introduced by Vice -Mayor
Reboso, who moved its adoption:
OBJECTIONS TO CONFIRMING RESOLUTION
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5,
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1055
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION
NO. 74-639 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO
ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H--4374 IN GARDEN
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4374
Upon} being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the rego lut ion
was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Rev.
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Mr. Plummer, Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ACCEPTING "SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS"
LAM COMMUNITY STUDY
Mr. Acton' Director of Planning Dept: The Latin Community
Study was prepared by the Planning Dept. in response to City
Commission resolution on May 24, 1973. The Commission at that
time requested a study of this entire area, and especially
as related to parking and circulation problems within the
area. The study has been prepared, processed by the Planning
Advisory Board, and has resulted in 3 major recommendations
that will affect. both traffic circulation and various modifications;
to the zoning ordinance. The modifications that will affect the
zoning ordinance pertain mainly to R-4 zoning ordinance and
certain modifications to our off-street parking and loading.
It would be my suggestion that the Commission take item #6
before they act on Item #5, Item #5 is adopting the study
in principle in its entirety, Item #6 refers to only to traffic
and circulation within the Little Havana area, and we have Mr.
Ed King from the Dade County Dept. of Traffic and Circulation
that can answer questions about the implementation of suggested
recommendations as they pertain to establishing a one-way street
system in the Little Havana area.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question, one of the hottest
hornet's nest I ever sat on this Commission, was the changing
of 7th and 8th Street, if you will recall I think from 27th
Avenue to at least Le Jeune, if not further, and boy let me
tell you something, we thought when we sat here as a Commission
we were doing a great thing, it came before this Commission,
recommended by us, recommended by Metro, but you know who
they forgot, the people that live and work there, and I attended
a meeting at the Dade County auditorium because there were so
many people, no other,facility would hold them. Now, George,
are you telling me, before you come up and get me into another
hornet's nest, No. 1, that you have held a public hearing in
the area, you have heard from the people, it has been heard at
the zoning board. ---
Mr. Acton: ---Planning Advisory Board,- =yes
Mr. Plummer: --and coupled with that,your recommendation
and Metro and Traffic and Transporation, that it comes before
this Commission with a favorable approval from everyone.
Mrs. Gordon: J.L. I'd like to tell you I attended that
public hearing in the Ada Merritt School, and there were very
few objectors, and those that had any objections,recommendation
to make those changes as recommended, I believe are included in
this break down.
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Mr. Plummer: Rose, you wern't on this Commission when
that 7th Street thing came up and l'11 tell you if you ever
saw people with fire in their eyes, boy,
Mrs. Gordon: That was different situation. This is
a congested area.
Mr. Plummer: l hope it is a different situation.
Mrs. Gordon: The people here want some relief. They
can't go two ways on those narrow streets, because it pro-
hibits them from being able to do any parking. It is an
impossible situation, and it must have some relief.
Rev. Gibson: J. L., I understand what you are saying.
I want to make sure before we get into this, has the people.
as a whole, (not every person) but the people as a whole
been notified. Have they had the opportunity, --
Mr. Acton: Yes, sir, there was a public hearing
in the Ada Merritt Jr. High School.
Mr. Plummer: More than one, ---
Mr. Acton: I cant recall, Commissioner Plummer, but
there has been a series of meetings, plus a public hearing
at Ada Merritt, and we very pointedly distributed information
about the proposed systems to the residents in the area, so
we would get public input. As a result of those -individuals
that did come up and speak about the proposed one-way system.
the Planning Advisory Board did make a couple of modifications
to our study that are reflected in the resolution that comes
to you, about the 19 elements.
Mr.Plummer: George, the only thing that raises the
question in my mind, this proposal is so great, why isn't
this place jammed with people.
Mr. Acton: Commissioner Plummer, one of the basic functions
of either the Zoning Board or the Planning Adv. Board is to
process this type of study to fully inform the residents of
the area and get input prior to the time that it comes to
the City Commission. This is the reason we re -structured our
Planning and Zoning process, as you know, We tried to, ----
mine,
Mr. Plummer: George, you made your point, and I've made
Rev. Gibson: I always feel better, this is what I don't
like about government, I always feel better when the people
who are for it, join and say, we have had a chance to be heard,
and this is best we could hope for under the circumstances.
You may not agree with all of -them, you know what I mean?
Mr. Acton: Yes, I understand, ----
Rev. Gibson. because otherwise, you hear a fellow say
later on, you know man, that is not what we wanted, ---Rose I
remember those hearings. We want to make sure everybody knows
we have raised these questions, and if they were not here,
shame on them, we did not do it in the blind. Okay?
Mr. Acton: Good.
Mr. Acton: The first map we are looking at, Mr. Mayor
and Commission is a map of the study area, which basically
that area that is identified as the Little Havana area and
contains practically all R-4, ---
Rev. Gibson: Rose you ought to hear this, for this
is part of your thing. I am not trying to create problems,
I want to make sure ours easier, and, now you know somewhere
I saw that mini -bus thing, ----
Mayor Ferre:----coming up this afternoon, ---
Rev. Gibson: -I want to know if, when you had the hearings,
(more than one), that the people and the Traffic Department
were fully aware that these have relationship and bearings
and what we do, one time will have an effect on what we do
another time. Here is what I'd like for you to do, for the
record, tell us whether or not, the people were conscious
that these two things were being discussed, and in all probability
would be decided at one and the same time, and one in the after-
noon and one in the morning. Understand?
Mrs. Gordon: I'd like to ball your attention Father to
the fact that the proposed transportation system to be discussed
this afternoon are primarily arterial, and the problems we're
dealing with today are not the arterials, but the side streets
whereLpeople reside,and where they have the problem of not being
able to get to their place of residence.
- Rev. Gibson: Rose, let me respond since I raised the
question, you know I live on William Avenue and Elizabeth,
but if all of the people came off Grand Avenue on William and
Elizabeth, even though Grand Ave. might be a main thoroughfare
I am going to still be in trouble. So I would hope that one would
have bearing on the other, and it virtually impossible for what
happens on the main highways, not to affect the side streets.
That is what I am trying to put on the table.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, I hate to do this to you, but
we have 10:45 items, and the people are here for them, so
let's wind it up in 15 minutes so we can hear them at 11:00.
Mr. Acton: I'd like to have Mr. Ed King who is the
project man on this particular study by Dade answer that
question.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. King?
Mr. Ed. King: We are aware that a mini -bus system is
under consideration for this part of the City, possibly once
the comments, ----once we go over the comments that come out
of the hearing this afternoon. We will be able to see if we
have to modify our one-way system at all in order to handle
the comments.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor very rapidly now, this is the one
way system as proposed by both the Planning Department and
Dade D.O.T. and I call your attention to the fact that the
area in green is where tho proposed first phase of the system
will be installed. They want to do this to work out the bugs
and later on consider the expansion of that system north of
Flagler Street.
The next are the 19 recommendations, they deal only
with traffic and circulation and I want to point out to the
Commission that there are three items here which were modified
and recommended by the Planning Advisory DoaFd, and that is
Mo. 6 which the recommendation was to restrict parking on both
sides of 17th between Flagler and S.W. 8th. The Planning Adv.
Board did modify this recommendation based on the fact that. --
there were merchants that got up and spoke against it, so what
the recommendation is to not, fit this time, eliminate parking
on both sides of 17th Avenue, that was No. 1, the second one
relates indirectly to the question that was posed by Commissioner
Gibson, and that is No. 11, it says east bound M.T.A. buses
currently using S.W. 6th Street should be re-routed along
S.W. 8th Street.
The last modification was the recommendation, by the
way, we concur with these recommendations, was No. 14, where
the Planning Adv. Board, again, based on the input by the
citizens of the area, were against studying the feasibility
initiating parking programs concurrently being studied in other
American cities, such as to require all motorists parking their
cars in public right-of-way within a certain district, to
purchase in this way a permit for parking, and 2, they were in
favor of, which is to build small public parking facilities
throughout a district. In otherwords they are against any
kind of permitting system but for the City of Miami through
the Off Street parking authority installing small lots to
serve the residents of the high intensity area.
Are there any questions on the 19 recommendations, --
these deal only with traffic and circulation.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't have any question with the modifications
as you have outlined them. The other Commissioners do.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any questions at this time, to
approve this?
Mrs. Gordon: I would move to approve this, because
the comments I heard when I went to the hearing were very
favorable.
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by
Mrs. Gordon who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1056
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE "SUMMARY OF RECOM-
MENDATIONS" OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS
CONTAINED IN THE "LATIN COMMUNITY STUDY"
AND OF DADE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRAFFIC
AND TRANSPORTATION (ATTACHED HERETO AS
EXHIBIT "A") WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS:
(1) THAT ITEM NO. 6 BE REFERRED BACK FOR
FURTHER STUDY;--(2) THAT ITEM NO. 11 BE
MODIFIED TO ELIMINATE THE PHRASE "ALONG
SOUTHWEST 8TH STREET"; AND, (3) THAT ITEM
NO. 14 BE MODIFIED TO DELETE PART 1 AND
TRANSFER PART 2 FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION; AND,
URGING THE DADE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRAFFIC AND
TRANSPORTATION TO IMPLEMENT SAID RECOMMENDATIONS
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's office.)
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Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the
was passed and adopted by the following vote
Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Iteboso, Rev. Gibson
Terre. NOES: None.
resolution
AYES: Mrs.
and Mayor
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - MR. JACK J, WEISS
To niscuSS STREET LIGHTING _MAINTENANCE
Mr. Jack J. Weiss: Thank you for giving me and my
clients an opportunity to appear before you. As you know,
we wrote a letter to the City Manager on September 13, 1974
in connection with a review of a proposal to transfer in-
stallation, maintenance and repair of the street lighting
system for the City of Miami from the present arrangement
that now exists through the F.Pi& L to the city with competitive
bidding for all installation, maintenance and repair of street
lighting contracts. As you know, I am here on behalf of my
clients, Street Lighting Company of America, but my appearance
is not only representing a client, but in -a greater sense, the
area, ---and citizens rights has a, what is the greatest
good for the citizenry of the City. A research into the main-
tenanceiinstallation repair of street lighting as disclosed
at approximately upwards for a period of 20 years now, the
contract for street lighting maintenance has been given to
one company without bidding. From the record there has not
been any opportunity afforded to qualified competitors, enabling
them to get a contract in the field in order to offer their
services in the area. I don't want to get into a discussion
insofar as the past is concerned, we are primarily interested
in what the future holds as far as this particular area.
Analyzing the appropriate ordinances, Sec. 81 and Sec. 16-20
and Sec. 16-22 of the Code, I believe I quote from those
sections in my letter of September 13, clearly indicates
that any contract in excess of a thousand dollars, for public
work improvement and/or expenditures for supplies and material
must be give on the basis of competitive bidding. This ordinance
has been a well established procedure calculated to assure
that at all times the citizens will receive the best services
available and the best price for such services. For example,
when a contractor knows that at stated periods he has to
review his contract, this forces him to give highest efficiency
in his work in order to remain qualified to hold on to that
contract. The research has disclosed that in all cities where
contracts, ---
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Weiss, I have been whispering in the
Manager's ear and I think if we hear from him, you will agree
to stop now, you will be well satisi:igd with what he has in
mind. Would you consider that sir?
Mr. Weiss: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager can we hear from you?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
you will remember that Mr. Lebow who was the first legal
representative of Street Lighting Maintenance of America.
appeared before the Commission with a plan to provide the
City with maintenance of street lighting in the City of
Miami. We met with Mr. La Saw, he supplied us with information,
we made contacts with 8 other cities where they had their
recommendation and discovered through those 8 cities that the
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proposals that Mr.LaBaw had made were not consistent with
what was being presented, ---represented from those 8 cities.
Nevertheless we were abb to gain some valuable information from
that research. One of the firms that is doing work in Philadelphia.
Mitchell Maintenance, then became aware of the City's interest
in this, and they are now working on a proposal to supply the
city with a similar plan of maintaining the street lighting
system. I want to work with this gentleman and his firm of
people from Philadelphia, Mitchell Maintenance and others,
and the Florida Power and Light co. to see if there is a way
that we can approach our street lighting differently in the
future than we are now. If there is, I will be recommending
to the Commission that we go out for public proposals to
r eceive bids from various firms interested in this area.
The one big problem we have that would have to be worked
out is that so much of the City's street lighting is from
utility poles , owned and maintained by the power company
for purposes other than lighting the street. The main purpose
is for the transmission of power in the City and there is
a bracket put on that pole with a light, and this is going
to be a difficult area to overcome, and I will work with
these people, with Mitchell Maintenance as soon as they are
finished with their proposal, and from all of that, and with
the Florida Power & Light Company, we will make a determination
whether we can go out for public proposals or submit a report
to the Commission.
Mr. Weiss: I appreciate that, and I am aware of the
study that Mr. Andrews is speaking of and also aware of the
fact that there is still another company interested in having
an opportunity for free bidding, for bidding on street light
maintenance. However, without going into my predecessor, insofar
as my client is concerned. That has been approximately 10 or 11
months ago, to suggest at this time, in so far as a time
frame is concerned, when either, this Mitchell company or my
company or all the other companies that would participate in
bidding will have an opportunity to bid on a contract.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Weiss, in fairness, and the record is
going to reflect, by inuendo, that the City is responsible
for 11 months having gone by and not too much has been
accomplished. Mr. LaBow made his representations in behalf
of your firm, we did a lot of research with 8 cities and the
information that was presented to us could never be validated
by those agencies. In other'words the information that was
reported to theCommission did not prove out factually to be
the case and we did a lot of work in uncovering that, and
we met several times. The city has been pursuing this expeditiously
and this is a very complex problem, and I am not going to tell
the commission that it can be done in the next six months, but
please don't say that 11 months have gone by and you are anxiously
waiting for some results, because we have produced results, gen-
erated by you, that have cost the taxpayers now, and we have
gained some information from that effort,'but a lot of it was
fruitless because it did not hold up to the facts that you had
presented, -----
Mr.Weiss: Well, I appreciate that Mr. Andrews, in keeping
with the other remarks you made in reference to a system to
revert to the municipality in accordance with the present
system and how to do it, in our letter, of Sept. 13, we setforth
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suggestions on how such a formula could be accomplished,
and of course I would call everyone's attention to that
letter on page 3 without actually quoting from it now, so
you have an opportunity to see the formula that we suggest,
the formula by the way is not one that we thought about in
so far as the City of Miami's concern. It is a formula(that
has been\used in a change -over in such cities for example as
San Francisco and New York, and other;cities. As a matter of
fact in that same letter I have also included for your perusal
the advantages obtained by going into private companies in
sofer as savings to the cities. For example in New York, I
mentioned something there that there was a result in saving
a dramatic amount of $2,400,000. within a short period of
time subsequent to the change over. In Philadelphia for
example, their change -over was in 1955. That resulted in
an annual saving of $360,000.00 to the citizenry of that
city. Again we have,
Mayor Ferre: Jack, was the figures two million, three,
you said?
Mr. Weiss: Yes, two million, three, insofar as New
York is concerned. Then Philadelphia as I said was $360,000.
then still another city that we quoted from, San Francisco,
the documents that I supplied there from the Department of
Public Works from the City of San Francisco, indicates the
huge savings within that City. In other words, what I am
getting down to say is that in each and every city where
there has been a change over from the City being built by
the power company in that city, ---
Mayor Ferre:----there had been a savings,
Mr. Weiss: ---per kilowatt hours, and street lighting
maintenance where they changed over the street light maintenance
installation etc. etc.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor may I make a motion at this time?
Since there has been some point raised about the time element
involved. I will make a motion at this time that the City
Manager be instructed to come back to this Commission no
later than the meeting of October 24, with his recommendations
in reference to this proposal.
Mayor Ferre: Does that give you enough time, Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews: No, not in reference to his proposal.
Mr. Plummer: No, as to whether or not you feel this
commission should go for outside other than the Fla Power
& Light.
Mr. Reboso: Paul, it is true of the Charter, is asking
that any work in excess of $1000. should be on competitive bid?
Mrs. Gordon: You are saying that if in fact we should go
i) another source then we should have a public bid?
Rev. Gibson: Wouldn't it mean that no only, if you don't
go to another source, if I understand, ---even with Fla. Power
& Light. Fla Power and Light ought to ::e face-to-face then
we ought to have the right to snake the choice. That is what
he is saying.
Mayor Ferre: You see the point in all this is, for example
with regards to buying electricity, we have no choice because
that is a public monopoly therefore we have to buy electricity
under the franchise of Florida Power & Light, and we make money
on that, because we get a franchise tax but in .this particular
item, there are alternatives, and there fore what I think is being
said, I think we are all agreeing with is, that since there are
viable alternatives, by Charter we have to put it out for public
bids.
Now, will that give you enough time by the 24th?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, there is one key element I don't want
the Commission to miss, and I will only take one more minute
and that is, as example, I don't have the exact figures,
approximately half of the existing street lighting, or maybe
more than that, are on power poles of Fla. Power & Light Co.
that are there principally to deliver electrical energy, and
have nothing to do with the street lighting system, but a
fixture, a bracket is attached. We just can't say, gl-'at, we
are going out for public proposals, because that means the
Florida Power & Light Company is out of the lighting business,
they remove the brackets from these poles and we are immediately
going to have to tax the people of the city to put new poles in
and maybe adjacent to power poles to put a lighting bracket on.
Mrs. Gordon: Will you bring us all this information in
your analysis.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, what I think I hear them saying
is that Oct. may be an early date but certainly November shouldn't
be too early. What I think I hear him saying is, October is an
early date, ----
Mr. Plummer: I'll amend it to Nov. 14.
Rev. Gibson: ---November 14, so that lets you know we
want to move in an affirmative direction.
Mr. Weiss: Well, Reverend Gibson, I appreciate that, the
only point I wanted to make, well ----two points really, insofar
as the problems that Mr. Andrews is talking about on the change-
over, and what to do with the existing poles that belong to
the power company, I have on page 3 of my letter exactly how
that could be handled in a very appropriate manner and has been
handled in other cities. I provided all this information, i under-
stand of course, from Mitchell lighting that they have provided
him with a on -the -scene study within the City of all of these
things, and that is why thinking October 24,----I would have no
objection to October 24.
Rev. Gibson: I think I -owe the City. Manger, to give him
that November date, with the understanding that come November
it is either cut bait, or fish, understand? If I ask him to
do it in October; he can say to me, well, I kind of told you,
I couldn't get it, understand?
Mr. Weiss: Yes, ----
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mr.
Plummer who moved its adoption:
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MOTION NO. 74-1057
A MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT
TO THE COMMISSION NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 14TH
HIS RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING METHODS OF CON-
TRACTING FOR STREET LIGHTING MAINTENANCE IN
TIDE CITY OF MIAMI
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES:
None.
7. PERSONAL APPEARANCE - MONNA LTGHTE TO DISCUSS
HEMISPHERIC CONFFREJCE FOR l'tONEN - "76"
Mayor Ferre: Monna Lighte and Beck Carney.
have not seen Mrs. Carney here, is she here?
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Mrs. Monna Lighte: Honorable Mayor and Honorable Commissioners
I am Monna Lighte, representing Beck Carney who is the coordinator
of the Council for Continuing Education for Women, part of Miami -
Dade Community College. I have given you some documents explaining
the background of CCEW and Hemispheric Conference for Women,1976.
You will find in there something from Dante Fascell, a,.letter
of approbation from the White House, from the American Revolution
Bicentennial Committee from Florida Bicentennial Committee and
other pertinent information. The Center for Continuing Education
for Women is the oldest and most prestigious center of learning
for women in the country. It it indeed the prototype for all
the other women's studies programs that have been developed.
About a year ago we conceived the idea of having a Hemispheric
Conference for Women as a Bicentennial event. We have received
the approval of the Board of Trustees of the college,of 3rd
Century, of the Executivelcommittees of both of these bodies.
In addition we have a letter which you have from the United
States Dept of State which says that they will bring and fund
the 18th Assembly of the Interamerican Commission of Women,
part of the Organization of American States, into Miami for
their 18th Assembly. I was asked to attend the 17th assembly
which was held in Washington last week as a delegate from the
United States as an observer, and we are very proud of the
fact that not only will the 18th Assembly come here but we
feel doubly proud because in explaining the diversity of
population in Dade County we feel that this is a tremendous
boost towards furthering the ties between Latin, South America
Central America as well as the Bahamas and the Carribean. We
are bringing this in, and are appealing to you for initial
organizational funding as a tourist event, following the
18th Assembly meeting there will be hemispheric conference
where we hope to invite through groups, through organizations,
the most prestigious academic, economic, and political organization.*
in the hemisphere. We have the resources from our office to do
this, we have the full backing of the college. We have created
fictitious title to Hemispheric Conference for Women, we have ---
the Miami Dade Community Fund operating as a tax exempt non-
profit entity who will not charge for administering any monies
which go into this. However, Mrs. Carney is the full time
coordinator of C.C.E.W. I have been a total volunteer in this
effort, Catherine Farriner of Dade Federal Savings is my co-
chair person. We are appealing to you because we will be bringing'
you in these three events. No. 1 on January 11, 1975 as part of
the United Nations Declaration of the International Year of
the Women, we will be bringing down from Washington repre-
sentatives at their own expense, not at the City's, repre-
sentatives from the United Nations, representatives from
the Organization of American States, and we will require
of course the highest elected officials of the municipality
to receive them.
No. 2 we are bringing to you the 18th Assembly of the
Interamerican Commission of Women which numbers about 350
people with their aids, etc.
One last thing, we expect, as we say, about 2,000
women for the Hemispheric Conference. We would like to
give you some time peruse to this and hope we can meet
with you privately or,,in public, as you w ieh, within the
next week or 10 days to receive some answer to the material
we have presented.
Thank you. Please ask 'any questions.
Mayor Ferre: As I read this, and as I understand it,
one is the official invitation, and that I am sure is
something the Commission is going to want to do, regardless,
and I think we can move on this right now. So, if someone
wants to make a motion, so the City of Miami extends an
official invitation, --
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mrs.
Gordon who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1058
A MOTION DIRECTING THAT A PROCLAMATION AND
PROPER INVITATION BE EXTENDED TO THE HEMIS-
PHERIC CONFERENCE FOR WOMEN-1976
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr.
Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor
Ferre. NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Now we get to the hard part, and that
is money. How much money are you talking about?.
Monna Lighte: $5,000.00, one time, implementing money,
yes, because money will come back through registration,
through shopping, through hotel fees, through foreign carriers.
But to get this off the ground, ---
Mrs. Gordon: ---seed money, Monna?
Monna Lighte:----seed money, yes.
Mayor Ferre: These are monies that will come back,
but will not come back to the City of Miami coffers, it
will come back indirectly.
Monna Lighte:It can come back, ---I believe there are
details surrounding this that we can work out so it can
come back directly into the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Would you discuss that, ----would you put
somebody appropriate to discuss this with Mrs. Lighte and come
back with a recommendation to us.
Mr. Andrews: How money..are we talking about?
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Mayor Ferre: She said $5,000. seed funds, one time,
and she thinks it can be worked out so that it is returned
to us.
Mrs. Gordon: It has its publicity value, other values,
and it is only seed money.
Mr. Andrews: I will make sure somebody contacts you
and we will get more of the details, as to how this will
all go together.
Monna Lighte: I would like one more thing. I would
like to know that someone will be assigned through the
Commissions' approval to come to our meetings, which
we are beginning to call in terms of the community
sector.
Mayor Ferre: If Mrs. Gordon would be the appropriate
one if she would volunteer for that.
Mrs. Gordon: I will accept the responsibility that
the coverage is there.
Monne Lighte: Thank you very much.
PERSONAL EPPEARANCE - JEROME ROBINSON, EXEC,DR,, FLA,RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION REGARDING THE FIRE PREVENTLON BUREAU/NIGHT CLUBS
Mr. Jerome Robinson: Mr. Mayor and members of the
Commission, ----
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Robinson, we are running late, how
much time will you need?
Mr. Robinson: I know there will be four different
people discussing the problems we have.
Mayor Ferre: I am afraid I am going to have to ask you
to wait, unless you can do this to 10 minutes.
Mr. Robinson: We will hold it to 10 minutes.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor I think I can save everybody a
lot of time. I have met with Mr. Robinson and representatives
and there were two problems, one I won't even describe which
we resolved, I'believe to their satisfaction. The Second
problem they had is that the night clubs and supper clubs
require that there be sufficient space for two hundred patrons
or 15 sq. ft per person. The ordinance is so written that the
police department and other inspectors have to come in and
count chairs in an establishment to make sure that they have
200 chairs to accomodate the-200 customers, and ofter they
will only have 180. They will have 20 chairs off in a closet.
This is a real advantage to the City because we have 20 people
occupying a given space that we have specified in our ordinance.
What Mr. Robinson wants to achieve is that we reconstruct the
ordinance, and we'd like the opportunity to work with him to
present to the Commission a new ordinance covering the same
area which does not reduce to size, but could reduce the number
of occupants in the club on the night they are operating, in
such a way that it reduces our policing problem, it helps
the fire inspection people and it takes away the criteria of
numbers of people and restores square feet.
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Mr. Plummer: Are you recommending it?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, I am recommending that we present an
ordinance to the Commission.
Mr. Plummer: I understand they are under a problem of
October 1 which is next Monday. Are you also recommending
that that be extended?
Mr. Andrews: I think we worked that all out, where
we have accbpted their license money for the coming year,
we have not issued a license to them, we are holding it
in abeyance and the Fire Department can complete their
inspections and we are going to try to work with these
people.
Mr. Plummer: October 2nd we are not going to have
them all screaming down here that they were closed up.
Mr. Robinson: What we are trying to find out, if
we can have it put on the record here now that the licenses
will be issued or at least they will be able to operate
with their existing license before the renewal, so they
will not be put out of business during thisinterimperiod
of our study.
Mr. Andrews: I want to put on the record that these
people will not be put out of business, we will work with
them, their existing license will remain in force, we will
accept the money for the new license, but that will not
be issued until we have re-established the criteria and worked
that out with these people.
Mr. Plummer: Is that agreeable with you Jerry?
Mr. Robinson: It is agreeable that this particular
point they are not going to say if you have 200 seats in
there but you only have 190 you can operate now. I accept
that.
Mr. Plummer: Mr.Mayor I want you to hear this, are you
finished Jerry?
Mr. Robinson: I just want to add onething to it, you
might be aware of this situation, we are dealing now with
night clubs, but from the standpoint of the fire department
we will be getting involved in the same study, dealing with
restaurants with exceptional licenses under the SRX plan
which calls for 200 minimum seats, and 4,000 sq. ft. on
a State level in order to get the State license. But these
people come in and now say you can only have 190, and place
that as the load, they would automatically be in jeopardy of
the State license, so we have -to deal now in this whole problem
with what the State statutes also infecting one area which
they will be getting into.
Mr. Plummer: We will deal with tomorrow's problems
tomorrow. Jerry I want to tell you something, Mr. Manager,
I don't want to see this year come up like last, because I
have you word as I recall, that before any of these licenses
are issued, to the night clubs, not any one I am going to name,
that you are going to do a complete review and in-depth study
before you put your approval on that license. Exactly what 1 am
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getting at is. this was a lever that this commission was
going to use for a few un-named night Clubs that wern't just
operating properly, and as I also recall, that you were going
to force them before this Commission for an open and public
hearing for possible revocation of those licenses. I am just
reminding you, that I don't expect anything to be rubber-stamped
which I know you won't do, but I am reminding you that I know of
a few night clubs that I expect to see up here before this Cont-
mission before they get their license this year. Jerry, i want
you to hear that, because I have discussed it with you.
Mr. Robinson: I have no question on that, if there is
some operation which is in question now from an ethical
standpoint, or moral standpoint, I think that is your pre-
rogative to take that into consideration.
Mr.Plummer: There is a couple of operations that are
not only unethical, they are a total disgrace.
Mr. Robinson: I think you have that prerogative,
and we will back you on that issue.
Mr.Plummer: I am sure you would, so I just want that
on the record.
Mr. Andrews: I want to brief the Commission very hurriedly
that there are 65 such licenses that require review. I have
already scheduled or in the process of scheduling some 12 or
so who made application to City Manager for the renewal of their
license. When the Commission brought this up , I recognized what
you_are trying to accomplish. I don't know if any Commission
members have gone through a license revocation proceeding, but
it is quite complex. I was present at several of those some 10
years ago when I was Asst. City Manager, and it gets very
complicated and very difficult when you get into revocations.
I chose to wait just a little bit longer because you were so
close to the end of the year, that we are now in a different
ball game as far as reissuance of a new license and these people
have been put on notice, I have gotten about 12 of them, following
the ordinance to have hearings before me, in which I will go into
that, quite in detail.
Mr. Plummer: I will remind you of a motion made at this
Commission that this year we took this out of you hands and
put it back in front of this Commission for the hearing of
possible revocations of night club licenses that were improperly
being used. Do you recall that Mr. Lloyd?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, there are two ordinances, and the ordinance
with respect to revocation is specifically in the hands of the
Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, I don't want to see a rubber stamp.
Thank you.
Mr. Charles Snowden: I am Charles Snowden, representing
the Bayshore Whale and Sail Club. The application for renewal
requires the vice squads approval. Will the vice squad approve
this conditional renewal subject a review by the City Manager?
Mr. Andrews: The Vice -Squad is under the police department
which is under the City Manager and this ordinance is specific.
The Ordinance provides that when violations occur, that I notice
you, that I have a hearing with you present, and review all of
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these circumstances that make a determination whether a license
should not be renewed. If it is not renewed then the next appeal
is to the City Commission after that, or directly to the
Mr. Snowden: In other words, we have hearings pending
before you, will our money be accepted and our application for
renewal, subject of course to a hearing before you.
Mr. Andrews. subject to the hearing.
Mr. Plummer: Charlie, at the old hearings we had here,
the Capt. of the Vice Squad was always here outline the violations,
noted the violations, and then made recommendations, so when we
used to do it, some two or three years ago, ---yes, it was a fact
that there was; a hearing here and they did make recommendations.
Mr. Andrews: One point of clarity, so it on the record,
if, ---my findings at the re -issuance of a new license, find
that a license should be issued, after discussing what took
place the following year, then one month after you are into
operation, these re -occur and I will be the first one to .recom-
mend to this Commission that they have a revocation hearing
before them, to revoke the license.
Mr.Snowdpn: I understand that, my concern is just between
now and next Tuesday.
Rev. Gibson: I want to make sure I understand what I am
going to be asked to vote on. You are not asking me, ----I hope
the people who are involved, will not take liberty or the license
to assume that you have a license in your pocket, but,You have
the right to operate as is until such as. ----counsel, I am not
a lawyer, but I know what these words can do with us. Mr. Lloyd
since you are going to have to keep me out of jail, I want to
make sure my counsel tells me right. All we are doing is sus-
pending any consideration of the license and the license is
staying booked.
Mr. Lloyd: That is correct.
Rev. Gibson: Now, after we pass the ordinance, or make
these changes, and after Mr. Andrews makes his recommendations
should we in our wisdom deem as necessary, not to renew that
license, we have that right.
Mr. Snowden: Rev. Gibson, that is the way I understand it.
Rev. Gibson: Beautiful, I don't want anybody to go .out
here and say, we got out license, then to go on and violate all
the laws, and do everything they want to do. ,One other thing,
we in this community ought to learn some things; either by
lessons or otherwise. I hope, Mr. Andrews, as you and the
Fire Department review the granances, or amendments to them,
at no time, ---at no time, will you recommend to us the weakness
of that ordinance. When a man loses his life, there is no way
to bring him back. I have been trying at the church where I am
for 29 years, to bring the deadjback. I haven't brought!a dead
back yet, I want everybody to understand that I am not going to
be supporting any move to lessen or weaken, the Fire ordinance
of this community because we got,---ycu remember that, ---we got
the people to say, 'yes, ,Gibson and Ferre and Reboso, because
we said we had the best Fire Dept in this country, see, --fire-
men, don't forget,hold that up before us all the time.
Thank you sir.
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BRIEF DUSCUSSION - DEFERMENT OF APPLICATION TO CHANGE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION FROM R-1 TO R-C
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Mayor Ferre: The next thing is, ----Mr. Dykes will you
come forward? You were on a 10:30 item, so we will recognize
you at this time.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute before I invoke the rule.
Mayok Ferre: Let me give you the background on this.
Mr. Dykes was supposed to be heard on a previous meeting.
When?
Mr. Dykes: About 7 or 8 weeks ago.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I am not trying to be a stumbling
block, and if I could finish I would be more than willing to
go ahead. Anything we pass on Mr. Dykes today would be a first
reading, and there would be another hearing in 30 days.
Mayor Ferre: Is that correct?
Mr. Lloyd: I don't know what you are going to pass, whether
it is a resolution or ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: It is the request he made before us before.
Mr. Lloyd: The zoning change, two readings, ----
Mr. Plummer: Let's put it on the record. Has this
been advertised?
Mr. Simpson: Yes, sir, it has been advertised before
the Commission level three different times, not advertised,
notice to the property owners, 7/25/ meeting, 9/19 meeting
and again today. The only problem that we have with the notices
from today, the decision was not made to reschedule this until, --
when was the last Coconut Grove hearing, ----
Mr . Plummer: ---on the 19 th, ---
Mr. Simpson: ---and on the 20th, I sent out the notice
for this.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you why I am questioning it, any-
time, ----Mr. Simpson, anytime I see something penciled in,
I am suspicious. I am all in favor of the project, I have said
it before, but I am trying to keep the Commission from having
troubles later.
Mr. Bobby Dykes: I was here before, and I am here to ask
the Board to rezone a piece of property on the 2600 block of
S. Dixie Highway, from an R-1 single family dwelling to R-C
residential office. This is a little 5 room house sitting right
on Dixie Highway, you can't hardly live there, and can't sell
the place because it is not zoned for an office, and the R-1
Zoning allows any office in there anyway, if you live on 25%
of the dwellin3. The R-C do not have to. This piece of property
is the only piece I know of that is an R-1 or single family
dwelling from I-95 down to S.Miami somewhere. When they rezoned
this property a short time ago, ---a year ago, ---evidently the
zoning then thought it was a good idea because they zoned the
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fron 13 ft of this property as R-C. It is only 50 ft. by 80 ft
deep, the first 13 ft. are zoned R-C. The Back of it is R-1.
We just want to have the whole thing R-C to put a single family.
----a little office, it will enhance the property, beautify it.
put a little insurance office there. Fast to show you where this
piece of property is, on 27th Avenue and Dixie Highway, you
have the Sunoco Service Station. Next to that is a liquor
store, then a bean bag shop, then Carter Electric Garage.
then Whelan's Bait and tackle, then the property in question,
then you have an office, Red Carpet Realty, Metropolitan
Publishers, Dixie Realty, Orthopedic Appliances, on down
the line, I am asking the Commission to rezone this to
R-C to simply put a little office, Thank you.
Rev. Gibson: I remember this gentleman was here,
two different times. You know, we said we were going to
be,dealing with this piece of property, as we were dealing
with the whole rezoning program of Coconut Grove. Tell me
what happened in this instance.
Mr. Acton: As the Commission knows, you adopted the
Coconut Grove study in principle, which of course does not
include this recommendation, but it is our intent to come
back to the Commission within the next two months after the
public hearings of the Planning Adv. Board on those recommended
changes of zoning. Does that answer your question? What I am
saying,we now have to initiate the public hearings to change
zoning in those areas in the Grove that are recommended for
a change, and we hope to be back to the Commission within
the next two months with those changes.
Rev. Gibson: I just presume the man used the language of
the streets, up the creek, or frustrated, because he doesn't
really know if that is going to happen. Is that inyouur`plan
or recommendation?
Mr. Acton: No, our recommendation was for the retention
of this property as R-1. In my statement to the Commission
was that this should be deferred until such time as you act
on the Coconut Grove study which you did, and at that time you
could consider this item. What I am saying it is not recommended
for a change, so it is a matter of the Commission deciding whether
or not in their wisdom they want to grant this application.
Rev. Gibson: What you are telling me is, in the restructuring
and replanning of the Zoning for the Coconut Grove area, this
was not a recommended change, and in order to do any different,
unfortunately,
Mr. Dykes: Rev. Gibson, this is a little 5 room house,
you can't do anything else with it but what is there; it is
50 on the highway, they can't put a high rise, what we are trying
to do is put a little office,J..n there.
Mayor Ferre: What is the will of the Commission? Let's
come to a decision on this. Is there anything to be done now?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor maybe there is nothing to be done,
but let me tell you something. Unce in a while, we have to get
your nose out of the books and out and come to reality. Let me
tell you something Mr. Mayor, where that piece of property is,
I wouldn't own a single family home for love or money. It is
ridiculous. The traffic by that intersection is un real.
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Nobody in their right mind would live there in a single
family home.
Rev. Gibson: J. L. let me ask you this. The reason
for my question, I thought they saw,what----J.L. is saying.
and they must have an over-riding reason and what really
has me in a dilemma, is we just passed in principle, an
over-all zoning for Coconut Grove, and God know it would
be murderous to have passed it, ---when was it, Monday? --
the 19th, and then come here today and, ---
Mr. Dykes: Does that come under that?
Rev. Gibson: If what Mr. Plummer has described and
I am sure it is just like he said, why didn't, why wasn't,
this said to us?
Mayor Ferre: Let me understand, is today an advertised
day for this?
Mr. Simpson: It was deferred from two previous meetings
by this City Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Are we safely on the record that this
is to come before the Commission today, so notified in
the press.
Mr. Simpson: There is no requirement for notification
through the newspapers for this particular hearing.
Mrs. Gordon: ---the people who surround the property,
were they notified we were going to hear this todw?
Mr. Simpson: Yes, let me tell you the time table. When
the City Commission late in the evening on Sept. 23, deferred
the rest of the:i.items and scheduled this for the 27th, on the
morning of the 24th, we immediately re -posted the property,
with the properysign, that the meeting was today and by noon
the letters, certified letters to Mr. Dykes along with the
notices to 375 ft. property owners, was placed in the post
office about noon on the 24th. Normally that is a 10 day notice,
but because you deferred it Monday night the best I could do
was Tuesday morning.
Mrs. Gordon: In other words, you are not sure they have
been notified.
Mr. Simpson: I am sure the property was posted, it was
not posted 10 days prior, it was posted 3 days prior.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Bobby, I'll tell you, I'll go on record,
I want to state that, if were voting right now, I would vote for
the change because I thinkk`it is reasonable, so I am on the record
making that statement, so you don't misunderstand the intention.
So there is no confusion, so we don't have any potential 'problems
that come back and plague us. We are going to have to postpone
this one more time, the next meeting is on the loth of October,
at that time we will schedule it the first thing on the agenda.
I am sorry we have to go through this. I hope you understand.
Mr. Dykes: Thank you.
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A motion to defer the matter to October 10 was introduced
by Mr. Reboso, seconded by Rev. Gibson, and was passed and
adopted by the following vote - AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs, Gordon.
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, and Mayor Ferre. WES: None.
1U, MISCELLANEOUS PROCLAMATIONS, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION,
PLAQUES ETC,
Mayor Ferre: The first one is a proclamation of the
week of October 6th as Hispanic Heritage Week. Who is going
to receive that proclamation? Xs there somebody here to receive
this? In the future, --Mr. Southern and Mr. Andrews, ---in the
future would you please make sure that when we have presentations
and proclamations, like Hispanic Heritage Week that we have the
name of the person who requested this and the person who is to
receive it.
Mr. Andrews Crouch: ?e don't know that Mr. Mayor unless
you tell us who that is.
Mayor Ferre: Then I will instruct you to not put anything
on this agenda unless whoever requests it will give you the
name of the petitioner and the name of the recipient, otherwise
you will not put it on.
Mr. Crouch: Right.
Mayor Ferre presented a scroll of commendation to
Dr. G. Hugo Whitehouse to honor his 20th year as Consul General
of Austria in Miami.
Presentation to the Honorable Antonio Jose Villadares,
Consul General of Honduras.
Mayor Ferre: I might point out, that the Honduran supply
program, as you have read in the papers is going very well,
but much more help is needed. If anyone wants to participate
and wants to take supplies, any City of Miami Fire Stations
is a receiving point.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor it came to my attention this
morning that there isn't enough planes or other methods of
transportation to get the supplies we've already got, to
Honduras. We were to play a part in trying to facilitate
through Washington some additional help in thie direction.
I move we ask our Congressional delegation to help us to
transport these supplies to get some federal help.
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mrs.
Gordon who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1059
A MOTION URGING THE CONGRESSIONAL DELE-
GATION AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO ASSIST
THE CITY OF MIAMI IN TRANSPORTING HURRICANE
RELIEF SUPPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT OF HONDURAS 1
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr.
Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. (Mr. Plummer absent,)
7 39 SEP 27 41974
Mayor Ferre: The next presentation is to Dr. Maria
Gomez Carbonell of Cruzada Sducatida Cubano.
Mayor Ferre: We have a proclamation of the month of,-
March and April 1976, as National Youth Future Forum Days,
major projects in the celebration of the Nation's 200th
anniversary. We have with us Miss Ruth who will
accept the proclamation.
Mayor Ferre persented a plaque to Ike Flores of the
Associated Press for good -will efforts in publicizing this
community.
Certificates of appreciation were made to three members
of the Associated Press for the dedicated contributions of
thegreater understanding of the City of Miami and members of
this community during their service with the Associated Press.
A plaque was presented to Gordon Wallace Sellers on
his retirement after 38 years of service with the City of
Miami. ,Nr.
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11, APPROVING IN pRINCIPLE - "LATIN COMMUNITY STUDY"
Mr. George Acton: Nr. Mayor, Item # 5 is the resolution
approving in.principle the various elements of the Latin
Community Study and the Commission has already
action onItem #6, approved the traffic and circulation part
of -the recommendation. The recommendations are all contained
in the front part of the report, it is on pages 1, 2, 3 & 4
and the remaining portions of those recommendations are
basically aimed at reduction in density, for the R-4 zoning
ordinance which will heard later on by the Commission and
Item #8 and 9.
Mr. Mayor I simply stated that through the action on
item #6 you have approved those portions of the Latin Community
Study that deal with traffic and circulation. The other recom-
mendations in the Latin Study are contained on pages 1 thru
4, and deals specifically for the most part with changes that
would better the living conditions in the R-4 districts , such
as a reduction of density that is presently allowed in the
R-4 zoning 'ordinance as it pertains to 50 ft. wide lots, and
the resulting increase of landscaping, that would come through
the reduction of density. What I am saying Mr. Mayor is that
the recommendations contained in this report will be heard by
the Commission on items # 8 & 9 which are the result of studies
contained in this report. Unless the commission has any questions
pertaining to the recommendation on pages 1 thru 4 you could
take action on Item #5 which adopts this study basically in
principle.
Mrs. Gordon: If we have no questions on pages 1 thru 4,
OM MN. IOW OM
Mr. Plummer: I'll be happy to make the motions for you.
What you are telling me or the way I read what you are telling
me, is, this is what the people want. You think it is a good,
idea, Metro thinks it is a good idea, I'll be happy to offer
the motions.
Mrs. Gordon: This is the result of a long study.
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Mr. Acton: Yes, and it has been heard by the Planning
Advisory Board and adopted by them,
Mrs. Gordon: If J. L. is going to move, I'll second it,.:.. --
Mr. Plummer: Father raises a good question. George.
what we in fact are dealing basically with this morning,
is the one-waying of the streets, and things of that nature,
is that correct?
MR. Acton: No, there are other recommendations that
as I said pertain to required amendments in the R-4 zoning
district, basically that is what this report deals with,
it is recognition in fact that because of the preponderance
of 50 ft. wide lots in the study area, and the resultant
development that has occured on those lots, that vitrually
paves those lots, ----lot line to lot line, ---that we have
made certain recommendations.
Mr. Plummer: But you remember the time that we had before
this Commission, let me ask you this, has there been any dis-
cussion, as I recall, the Latin builders, were the ones who
came down here in droves, now have they been contacted?
Mr. Acton: Yes, the Chairman of the Planning Adv.Board
did talk with the Latin Community Builders Assoc. and for
the record, he made the statement that they have no objections
to it, nor have they appeared at the Planning Adv. Board
meeting or this Commission meeting, pertaining to this legis-
lation.
Rev. Gibson: I am not opposed, but I still want to raise
a question. There was a gentleman here, Mr. Reboso, you might
know who it was, who brought those charts, you remember, he
was involved in the study of the Latin community,-- -
Mr. Plummer: Aren't you mixing the improvements to S.W.
8th Street, ---that is a different story.
Rev. Gibson: -but it would appear to me, I thought I
had the bull by the horns, it seems to me if you are going
to deal with mini parks, and all of this, you have to get
to those parks. I would have liked, ----it is too late now, --
it would appear to me that gentleman ought to be here be
saying something too. The other thing is, that if he ought
to be up here saying rah, rah, rah, ----okay, the other thing
is, I don't like for the Chairman of the Planning and Adv.
Board talk with the Latin builders. I would have liked much
better if the President of the Latin Builders' Assoc. or some
dedicated group, not only talk with them, but come in and say,
you know, we heard it, we are with it. What I am trying to get
the Commission to see is, when you get out there with that
public, like in church, the only way to hush -up people is to
put them on the record. They would say, they could tell us
anything. I don't like the Chairman having talked with'them
and then and reporting back. I would like the Chairman to talk
with them, but they stand up here with you and say to us, ---- ..
we are with you, ---we can't do that now, but hope in the future
that when you have this, ---you say to them, this :s the way
you feel, that you are with us, you come with us and tell the
Commission,
Mr. Plummer: For the record, you have a gentleman here
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from Metro Tra".c and Transportat±no
Mr. Acton: He left.
Mt. Plummer: But you for the record stipulate that
he is in concurrence.
Mr. Acton: Byes, absolutely.
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mr
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1060
A RESOLUTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE
VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE "LATIN COMMUNITY
STUDY" DATED JUNE, 1974 AS PREPARED BY THE
CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING DEPARTMENT
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES:
None.
ORDLNANCE AMENDMENT- MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE
12, R-4 nrsTBTCls.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, I have already stated that this
is an attempt to reduce the density. lam going to show you
what the result on this ordinance will be upon the 50 ft.
wide lots. Very simply the illustration'on the left side
is -what is being built now. The one on the right hand side
with what will be built, as a result of these ordinance
changes.
Mrs. Gordon: From the first glance, tell me if I am wrong,
where is the major difference, it looks just like you moved
the parking from the back to the front.
Mr. Acton: No, it is the reduction of the density, No. 1,
one on the left side allows 5 units under the existing ordinance.
The new ordinance would allow them to build four units, plus
restricting the parking in the front yards, and creating open
space in the back yards. This was brought in the Planning
Advisory Board hearing.
Mrs. Gordon: What makes it so good that .way. .What makes
it so great to have parking in the front?
Mr. Acton: It is the creation, Commission Gordon of all
of the open space, where people can use it, as opposed to now.
You have been through the area, and you know the kind of deveopmen
Mrs. Gordon: But whatam trying to say to you George, is
the green looks better to me than asphalt.
Mr. Acton: That is right. Exactly, that is the point.
Mrs. Gordon: But you are saying that is the one you
are recommending, or I've got them reversed.
Mayor Ferre; The point is, the right hand has more green,
than the left hand. By having to have a drive -way to the back
you obviously have more asphalt.
Mrs. Gordon: What shows in the front, when driving down
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the street, is the one with the most green.
Mayor Ferre: Those Latins are concerned more about
what is in the back than what is in front.
side?
Mr. Plummer: What you are proposing is the right hand
Mr. Acton: Yes, sir, ----
Mr. Plummer: I am very much opposed to it.
Mr. Acton: Commissioner Plummer, this is only one
illustration. Many of the small developments have parking
also in the front yard. --
Mr. Plummer: And I am opposed to that.
Mr. Acton: The point was brought out during the Planning
Advisory Board hearing by, Mrs. Fernandez, that brought it out,
that she was very much opposed to the allowing of parking in
the back yard., The family had no privacy, ----
Mayor Ferre: I think it is a lot more important to give
these four families that live in a unit like this, at least
20 ft. by 50 ft. of green space, that they can have a barbeque,
or sit on the grass and talk, or have the children run and play,
than have it all asphalt. They are forced on the streets otherwise.
And they are not going to have their little picnic or what have
you, on 20 ft. of lawn by 40 ft. out on the street, and I think (
that the right hand example, at least for the Spanish community,
which is what is involved in this, is a lot better, because
they will use that space, and unfortunately, that means we have
to have cars in the front. I would rather have cars in the
front and have the psychological impact of green, useable
area in the back, small as it is, than the reverse.
Mr. Plummer: You are still going to have them,onthe
street.
Mayor Ferre: This might be an incentive'tokeep them
there for a while.
Mr. Acton: -as an example of the 6 and a 5,---the one
on the left hand side is what is allowed of the existing
ordinance, and the one on the right hand is what would be
allowed under the new ordinance, revisions and modifications.
irirs. Gordon: In that one it is much more grafic, your
illustration, because the fact you have in the one 'on the
left, only a little tiny piece of green, but the first illustration
was not as graphic, ----
Mr. Acton: I understand, the one on the left is the pre-
dominate typeof development we are getting now, ---
Mrs. Gordon: I see, ---
Mr. Acton: ----it has got parking both 'front and rear,
and is paved lot line to lot line.
Mrs. Gordon: Does this illustration have a different
lot size than the one before it?
Mr. Acton; Yes.
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Mrs. Gordon: What is the size of this one, and what
Was the other one?
Mr. Acton: This is 150 by 50, and the one before was
50 by 128.
Mrs. Gordon: I see.
Mr. Acton: The next one shows you again the existing, ----
these are existing examples of development on the left hand
side, and what could happen on a same size lot with the new
regulations. Just trying to illustrate that we are trying to
encourage larger unite and mare open space through the reduction
of density, basically.
Mrs. Gordon: The one on the right is much more attractive,
no question about it. It is a different shaped building and
has a lot more green.
Mayor Ferre: Here is the dilemma, and we have to face
it, we are stuck with automobiles. I hate them, but there is
nothing to do about them, so you may as well try to squeeze
them into one little piece of asphalt, even though it might
be ugly, if you get something better in return. And what you
are getting better in return is more green space.
Mrs. Gordon: That is a nice one on the right, that shows
green in the front.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, that is a 100 ft. lot, and on a 50
ft. lot you can't do that. That is the problem.
Mr. Plummer: You can always put landscaping in front
of them and hide them.
Mr. Acton; That ends our presentation.
An ordinance entitled -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871,
ARTICLE VIII, (MEDIUM DENSITY IMULTIPLE) R-4
DISTRICT, BY AMENDING SECTION 1, SUBSECTION 9,
AND SECTION 2, SUBSECTION Z, AND REPEALING
SECTION 2, SUBSECTION 3, AS THEY RELATE TO
DENSITY, MINIMUM LOT AREA, AND WIDTH FOR
RESIDENTIAL USE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT,
INSOFAR AS TREY ARE IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING
A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE
was introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded by Mrs. Gordon, and
passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Reverend Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso
and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
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13. ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING
AS THEY RtLAtE TO LOCATION OF PARKING .SPACES
An.ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871,
ARTICLE XXIII - OFF-STREET PARKING AND
LOADING, SECTION 2, SUBSECTION (2) (c),
SECTION 3, SUBSECTION (3) (a) 4, (3)• (b) 2,
AND (3)(b)5, AS THEY RELATE TO LOCATION OF
PARKING SPACES, DRIVEWAYS AND REQUIREMENTS
FOR LANDSCAPING AND WALLS; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF
IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded by Mrs. Gordon and
passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
14, SET BUDGET HEARINGS FOR PUBLIC INPUT - OCT 7TH AND 1OTH
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, we'll have to continue the existing
ordinance until the final public hearing before the public,
the 5:00 O'Clock meetings which we are required two of them.
We need a resolution finalizing the budget which has all of
the budget appropriations attached to it and a resolution for
thepublic hearings which we're establishing at 5100 P.M. on
October 7 and also October loth at 5:00 P.M. forithe second
hearing and then a final ordinance. This is the advertisement
state requirement.
ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL 74-75-
15. EMERGENCY CLAUSE
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE MAKING CERTAIN APPROPRIATIONS
TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, DIVISIONS, BUREAUS,
BOARDS AND OFFICES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AND MAKING SUCH APPROPRIATIONS CHARGEABLE TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1974-1975;
DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY
MEASURE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF
READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A
VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEM-
BERS OF THE COMMISSION.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Mr. Reboso for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Mr. Plummer, seconded
by Mr. Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8304.
The Mayor announced that each Commissioner had been furnished
with a copy of the ordinance and that copies are available to
the public.
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16, RESOLUTION. FINALIZIlt6 THE BUDGET - 197E-75
AND ADOPTING
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1061
A RESOLUTION FINALIZING AND ADOPTING THE BUD-
GET FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
1974-75.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
PROVIDING FOR PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING INCREASED MILLAGE RATE
17, NECESSITATED BY ADOPTION OF THE 1974-75 BUDGET - DIRECTING
THE CLTy CLERK TO ADVE1tTISE ETC.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1062
A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING
CONCERNING THE INCREASED MILLAGE RATE NECES-
SITATED BY THE ADOPTION OF THE 1974-75 BUD-
GET, AND DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO ADVER-
TISE THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE PUBLIC
HEARING IN CONNECTION THEREWITH.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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ORDINANCEAKING APPROPRIATIONS OF F RAL REVENUE SHARING
1.8, FUNDS RECL1VED IN THE AMOUNT OF $,856,544 ETC
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS OF
FEDERAL REVENUE STARING FUNDS RECEIVED
IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,856,544 FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1975, PROVIDING
THAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE, OR SUBSECTION
SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT
SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING PROVISIONS,
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, DECLAR-
ING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY
MEASURE AND BY A FOUR -FIFTHS VOTE OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, DISPENS-
ING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THIS
ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Mr. Plummer, seconded
by Rev.; Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8305.
19. ACCEPT PLAT - LITTLE RIVER CENTER
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1063
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED
"LITTLE RIVER CENTER", A SUBDIVISION IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND ACCEPTING THE
DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT, AND AUTHOR-
IZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND
CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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20. ACCEPT PLAT - HELLER TRACT
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1064
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED
"HELLER TRACT", A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY
OF MIAMI, AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS
SHOWN ON SAID PLAT, AND AUTHORIZING AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK
TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
21. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - SOUTHERN DRAINAGE PROJECT E-3i
--The following resolution as introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1065
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTINT THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT COM-
PANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $199,905.50; AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PROPER OFFICIALS TO AUTHORIZE A FINAL PAY-
MENT OF $21,106.55 AS FULL AND FINAL PAYMENT
FOR ALL WORK PERFORMED AND ALL MATERIALS
FURNISHED IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHERN
DRAINAGE PROJECT E-31.
XHere follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES:. None.
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Thp followinc! rAsollntion '•+as introduced by Mr. Pltumtte.r
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1066
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY AMERICAN DAVITS CORPORATION
AT A TOTAL COST OF $7,121 AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $712.10 FOR THE MARINE
STADIUM BOAT PIT - FENDER SYSTEM - 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
FOR OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF
23,
N . W. 51 TERRACE ALLEY HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4371
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1067
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK
TO PUBLISH A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE
CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED CONSTRUC-
TION OF N.W. 51 TERRACE ALLEY HIGHWAY IM-
PROVEMENT H-4371 IN N.W. 51 TERRACE ALLEY
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4371.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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24. ALLOCATE $2,000 TO COVER COST OE MODIFYING CERTAtN CITY
HALL RESTROOMS FOR USE BY PERSONS IN WHEELCHAIRS
The following resoitttiori was introduced by Mr. ReboS0
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1068
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $2,000 FROM THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND - UNALLOCATED
FUNDS TO COVER THE COST OF MODIFYING
CERTAIN RESTROOMS AT CITY HALL AND
AUTHORIZING THE WORK TO BE PERFORMED BY
CITY FORCES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
URGING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO INCLUDE NEW TREE PLANTINGS
25 . AS A PART OF N.W. 20 SHEET COUNTY ROAD PROJECT
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1069
A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR LANDSCAPING
ON N.W. 20 STREET AND URGING THE METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY COMMISSION TO INCLUDE NEW TREE PLANTINGS ON
N.W. 20 STREET AS PART OF THE N.W. 20 STREET
COUNTY ROAD PROJECT AND TO FURTHER REQUEST THAT
THE METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY COMMISSION CONSIDER
NEW LANDSCAPING ON ALL STREETS WITHIN THE CITY OF
MIAMI INCLUDED IN THE "DECADE OF PROGRESS" BOND
PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr.'Reboso the resolution was pass-
ed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mr. Reboso, Reverend
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
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26, NAIVE RENTAL FEE - MIAMI STADIUM FOR USE BY MIAMI JACKSON HIGH
B U N
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1070
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER OFFICIALS TO WAIVE
RENTAL FEE FOR USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL
STADIUM BY MIAMI JACKSON HIGH SCHOOL FOR
ANY THREE (3) NIGHTS, IF AVAILABLE, DURING
THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 23 THROUGH FEBRUARY 28,
1975, FOR A PRE -SEASON BASEBALL TOURNAMENT;
SUBJECT TO PAYMENT BY USER OF THE CITY'S
COSTS OF $278.00 FOR A NIGHT SINGLE -GAME,
PLUS PROVISION OF PROPER LIABILITY INSURANCE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
27, WAIVE RENTAL FEE - BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM - WOMAN'S CANCER
ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI FOR HOLIDAY FESTIVAL AND
BAZAAR
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1071
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT
PARK AUDITORIUM FOR WOMAN'S CANCER ASSOCIA-
TION OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI FOR A
BAZAAR TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 7 AND 8, 1974;
SUBJECT TO ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSON-
NEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE
BY THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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SEP 27
28 DISMISS APPEAL- ALBERT J. SCHIFFAUER V, P.W.ANtREWSICITY MANAGER
CASE. NO., 744519
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1072
A RESOLUTION DISMISSING THE APPEAL OF
ALBERT J. SCHIFFAUER VS. P.W. ANDREWS,
CITY MANAGER, CASE NO. 74-8519; AUTHOR-
IZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO
ALBERT J. SCHIFFAUER THE SUM OF $414.25,
FOR COSTS INCURRED IN CONNECTION WITH
THIS CASE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that the City Attorney'
recommends.
29, RESOLUTION DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1073
A RESOLUTION DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFEND
ANY SUIT BROUGHT FOR THE RECOVERY OF
DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF SAID CLAIMS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Reverend
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
52
SEP2
3U, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURE FROM CONTINGENCY FUNDS TO
FUND PURCHASE OF SERVICE AWARDS FOR CITY _EME1..OYEES
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1074
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER OFFICIALS TO ALLOT
THE SUM OF $1,534.00 FROM THE CONTINGENCY
FUND TO PAY FOR THE PURCHASE OF SERVICE
AWARDS TO CITY EMPLOYEES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution, was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE 3 OF CHAPTER 54 ENTITLED
31. BUS BENCHES
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE III OF CHAPTER
54, ENTITLED "BUS BENCHES", SECTIONS 54-36
THROUGH 54-49 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, BY REPEALING SECTIONS 54-36 THROUGH
54-49 AND BY SUBSTITUTING NEW SECTIONS 54-36,
54-37, 54-39, 54-41, 54-42, 54-43, 54-44,
54-45 AND 54-46; FURTHER DELETING SECTIONS
54-40 AND 54-49 IN THEIR ENTIRETY; FURTHER
PROVIDING THAT ARTICLE III OF CHAPTER 54,
ENTITLED "BUS BENCHES" BE AMENDED BY REQUIRING
THE PERMISSION OF THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE
PLACEMENT OF BUS BENCHES IN THE CITY; FURTHER
PROVIDING THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI. BE DIVIDED
INTO FOUR (4) DISTRICTS; FURTHER PROVIDING
THAT A MINIMUM BID BE REQUIRED FOR EACH OF
THE FOUR (4) DISTRICTS; FURTHER AMENDING AND
MODIFYING THE AGREEMENT REQUIRED BETWEEN THE
CITY AND THE COMPANY; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR ITS INCLUSION IN THE
CODE; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION;
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; DECLARING
THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE;
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE
SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS
THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. Whereupon
t_ 53 SEP2 1
the City Conntiss , on motion of Mr. PluMM seconded by Rev.
Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -AYES:
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor
Ferre. NOES: None.
e
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8306.
The Mayor announced that each member of the Commission had
been furnished with a copy of the ordinance and that copies
are available to the public.
32,
RESOLUTION PROVIDING $167,328,1O FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES
JIIAMI MODERN POLICE- HEADQUARTERS - 1974
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1075
A RESOLUTION TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL .$167,328.10
FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "POLICE HEADQUARTERS
AND CRIME PREVENTION FACILITIES BOND FUND" FOR THE
ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES PERFORMED BY PANCOAST
ARCHITECTS, ET AL, FOR THE MIAMI MODERN POLICE -
HEADQUARTERS - 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
33, AWARD BID - GLENROYAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT S_R-5374-C&S
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1076
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID OF GOODWIN,
INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,013,295.50 FOR
GLENROYAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
SR-5374 C (centerline sewer) AND SR-5374 S
(sideline sewer) IN GLENROYAL SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5374-C (centerline
sewer) AND SR-5374 S (sideline sewer);
ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $3,013,295.50 FROM
THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "SANITARY SEWER BOND
FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE_ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF
$253,330 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF
$58,266 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS
ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, POSTAGE,
PRINTING AND BLUEPRINTING BY CITY FORCES OR
OUTSIDE VENDOR; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
54 SEP 2
(Here folio body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution Was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None,
34, AWARD B B - AFRICAN SQUAR PROPERTY - DEMOLITION - 197L
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1077
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID OF CUYAHOGA
WRECKING CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF
$12,129 FOR THE AFRICAN SQUARE PROPERTY
DEMOLITION-1974; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF
$12,129 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "PUBLIC
PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND
FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCA-
TING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF
$1,213 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF
$485 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS
ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES AND
POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor.Ferre.
NOES: None.
35, AWARD BID - FERTILIZERS AND CHEMICALS
Tha follo'.►ing resolution ''as introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1078
A RESOLUTION AWARDING BIDS FOR FURNISHING
FERTILIZERS AND CHEMICALS FOR USE BY THE
OPERATIONS DIVISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC WORKS FOR PARKWAY MAINTENANCE TO
HECTOR TURF AND GARDEN, INC. FOR $1,390.00;
WOODBURY CHEMICAL CO. FOR $1,963.75;
F.E.C. FERTILIZER COMPANY FOR $1,074.00;
AT A TOTAL COST OF $11,079.85; AND AUTHOR-
IZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PUR-
CHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS
FOR SAME, AFTER FIRST HAVING DETERMINED THAT
FUNDS BUDGETED FOR THIS PURPOSE ARE AVAILABLE.
SEP 27::
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and oit
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev, Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr, Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
36, AWARD DID -. GAME TABLES
The following resolution wan introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1079
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING BIDS FOR FURNISHING
GAME TABLES AND EQUIPMENT FOR USE BY THE PARKS
DIVISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RE-
CREATION FROM HUBERT H. HANSEN & ASSOCIATES AT
A COST OF $2,490.00; LONG AMALGAMATED INDUSTRIES,
INC. AT A COST OF $630.00; AND FORM, INCORPORATED
AT A COST OF $600.00; TOTALLING $3,720.00; ALLOCA-
TING THE AMOUNT OF $3,720.00 FROM THE 1972 PARKS
AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND FUND TO COVER
THE COST OF SAID EQUIPMENT, AND THE AMOUNT OF
$100.00 FROM SAID BOND FUND FOR ADVERTISING AND
ENGINEERING COSTS; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE
PURCHASE ORDERS FOR SAME AFTER FIRST HAVING
DETERMINED THAT FUNDS BUDGETED FOR THIS PURPOSE
ARE AVAILABLE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ACCIDENTAL DEATH INSURANCE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES
37, AWARD BID T
OCT 1, 1974 TKRu SEPT. 3p, 1975
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1080
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM
NORTH AMERICAN LIFE AND CASUALTY COMPANY ON
SEPTEMBER 23, 1974, PROVIDING AN ACCIDENTAL
DEATH INSURANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000.00
FOR CITY OF MIAMI EMPLOYEES FOR THE PERIOD
FROM OCTOBER 1, 1974 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30,
1975 AT AN ANNUAL PREMIUM OF $26,985.60, WITH
AN OPTION TO RENEW BY MUTUAL CONSENT OF BOTH
PARTIES FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO (2) YEARS; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PRO-
GRAM.
56 SEP 27
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City C1erk'a Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
38, AWARD BID_. - SUPPLIES FOR DAY CARE CENTERS
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1081
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CHILDSCAPES
COMPANY FOR SUPPLIES FOR THREE (3) MODEL DAY
CARE CENTERS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI AT A COST
OF $23,523.88; ALLOCATING SAID AMOUNT FROM
THE 1972 PARK AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES
BOND FUND; PLUS THE AMOUNT OF $150.00 FOR
ADVERTISING AND ENGINEERING COSTS, TOTALLING
$23,673.88; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE
PURCHASE ORDERS FOR SAME AFTER FIRST HAVING
DETERMINED THAT FUNDS BUDGETED FOR THIS
PURPOSE ARE AVAILABLE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
-Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
THE COMMISSION RECESSED AT 12:50 AND RECONVEINED AT 3:00 P.M.
WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Commissioner Reboso
Commissioner Plummer
Commissioner Rev. Gibson
ABSENT:
Mayor Ferre
Commissioner Gordon
39, POwPJTowN DFVFL.QPIIENT AUTHORITY - BIJD6ET FOR 1974-75
NOTE: Commissioner Gordon entered the meeting at 3:05 P.M.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1975, PROVIDING
THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE SUPPLEMENTAL AND IN
ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1975 FOR THE
OPERATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, PROVIDING THAT IF
ANY SECTION, CLAUSE OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING
PROVISIONS, DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN
EMERGENCY MEASURE AND BY A FOUR --FIFTHS VOTE OF THE
57 'SEP2'
MEMBERS Off' THE CITY COMMISSION, DISPENSING WITH THE
REQUIREMENT OF READING THIS ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE
DAYS.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which iwas agreed
to by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None. Whereupon the Com-
mission, on motion of Mr. Plummer, seconded by Rev. Gibson,
adopted said ordinance by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Vice -Mayor Reboso. ABSENT: Mayor
Ferre.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8307.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE DEFINING AND DESIGNATING THE TERRI-
TORIAL LIMITS OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL
LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TAXATION, FIXING THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN
THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LOCATION WITHIN
THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1974 AND
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1975, PROVIDING THAT THE FIX-
ING OF THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING OF TAXES IN THIS
ORDINANCE SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO THE FIXING OF
THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING OF TAXES WITHIN THE TER-
RITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, AS PROVIDED
IN ORDINANCE NO. 8307 PROVIDING THAT THE FIXING
OF THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING OF TAXES IN THIS ORDIN-
ANCE SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS
FOR IMPROVEMENTS IMPOSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE
SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO REPEAL OR AMEND ANY OTHER
ORDINANCE FIXING MILLAGE OR LEVYING TAXES FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1974 AND ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 1975 BUT SHALL BE DEEMED SUPPLEMENTAL
AND IN ADDITION THERETO; PROVIDING THAT IF ANY
SECTION, CLAUSE OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAIN-
ING PROVISIONS; DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE
AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AND BY A FOUR -FIFTHS VOTE OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY;C0MMISSION DISPENSING WITH
THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THIS ORDINANCE ON TWO
SEPARATE DAYS.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with thejre-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor
Ferre. Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Mr. Plummer,
seconded by Rev. Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Vice -
Mayor Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8308.
58 SEP2719
40LIMITED GAS FRANCHISE - CITY GAS COMPANY OF LORIDA
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE GRANTING TO CITY GAS COMPANY
OF FLORIDA, ITS SUCCESSORS OR ASSIGNS, A
LIMITED GAS FRANCHISE; IMPOSING PROVISIONS
AND CONDITIONS RELATING THERETO; DECLARING
THIS TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE ON THE
GROUND OF URGENT PUBLIC NEED AND DISPENSING
WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF READING THIS
ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE
OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMISSION.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordn, Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson, and Vice -Mayo Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT:
Mayor Ferre. Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Mr. Plummer,
seconded by Rev. Gibson adopted said ordinance by the following
vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Vice -
Mayor Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8309.
Thereupon the City Attorney announced that each Commissioner
had been furnished with a copy of the ordinance and that copies
are available to the public.'
41, AMEND ORD, 6945-REPEAL RULE VI, PART II, SEC 5 PAR,"F"
AWARDING OF CREDIT FOR SENIORITY IN PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATIONS
AS A METHOD OF COMPUTING CREDIT TO BE AWARDED
Mr. Plummer: On item 30 let me set for the record that Jessie
McCreary the attorney for the plaintiffs in the federal suit
appeared here and both to Mr. Andrews and myself wanted it to
be known that they have no objection to the approval of item 30.
Mr. Andrews: In fact, Mr. Plummer, a little stronger than that
he indicated to me in your presence that he favored this ordin-
ance.
Mr. Plummer: That is correct. He had to leave and he wanted
that to be on the record.
Mr. Andrews: I think that Mr. Paulk should be given the oppor-
tunity, Mr. Vice -Mayor to explain this ordinance to the Commis-
sion.
Mr. Robert Paulk: Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the Commission,
essentially what the effect of this ordinance revision to the
Civil Service rules is is to set forth the mechanism by which
the University of Chicago Industrial Relations Center might
apply seniority credit in their method of formulating an exam-
ination;result and that is very basically what it is. It simply
shifts the weight that presently exists in Civil Service Rules
in a means that they were res mmending should be done to more
equitably apply, in their opinion, seniority credit in estab-
lishing a register applying seniority credit for thoue people
in the various positions who are aspiring to become promoted
and that is really all it is.
Mr. Plummer: Does this come with the recommendation of the
Civil Service Board?
SEP 27
Mr. Patilk: Yeairit was passed unanirndvtaly by the eiVil
Serviee Board.
Mr. Pitunrner: Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to
speak on item 30? Anyone in the audience wishing to speak on
item 30.
Thereupon the City Attorney read the ordinance by title.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6945
PASSED AND ADOPTED NOVEMBER 15, 1951,
APPROVING THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND
REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY RE-
PEALING RULE VI, PART II, SECTION 5,
PARAGRAPH f., AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFOR
A NEW PARAGRAPH f., PROVIDING FOR THE
AWARDING OF CREDIT FOR SENIORITY IN
PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATIONS AND A METHOD OF
COMPUTING THE CREDIT TO BE AWARDED;
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS
OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY PROVISION; DECLARING THIS
ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE;
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING
THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE
OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMISSION; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
was introduced by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gib-
son, Mrs. Gordon and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. Whereupon the Commission, on motion of
Mr. Plummer, seconded by Rev. Gibson, adopted said ordinance
by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Mrs.!
Gordon and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor
Ferre.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8310.
The City Attorney announced that each Commissioner had been
furnished with a copy of the ordinance and that copies were
available to the public.
42. FIX DATE FOR IJEABINGS ON RAPID TRANSIT SYSTER
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the Commission, I
have several items -we can discuss now and then there are two
additional items that I would like to discuss with the Commis-
sion when the Mayor is present. The first is that I need the
Commission to set a date when the Rapid Transit Hearing pres-
entation can be made before the City Commission.
Mr. Plummer: What date do you suggest?
Mr. Andrews: It is purely up to the City Commission. It will
take about a half hour.
Mr. Plummer: On the loth?
•
60 SEP271
/Pe
Mr. Andrews: Well, if you could meet a little earlier on one
Of the days that you have your meeting....
Mr. Plummer: You want it at 8:30 on the loth?
Mr. Andrews: Your meeting on the 3rd of October at 6:00 O'clock,
if you met a half hour earlier.
Mr. Plummer: NO. Mr. Vice -Mayor, I move you that we set the
time for the hearing on October 10, 8:30 A.M.
The following motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1082
A MOTION FIXING OCTOBER 10, 1974 AT 8:30 A.M.
AS THE DATE AND TIME FOR HEARINGS ON THE
RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
43, DISCUSSION_ IIER. - ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARD PROPOSALS
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the Commission,
another subject matter is that you authorized me to receive
proposals on the Orange Bowl Scoreboard. We have now received
those proposals and ate in the process of analyzing them and I
want to report to you that these scoreboards will range in cost
from $1,300,000 to $3,400,000. Each one of the proposals re-
quires a form of guarantee from the City for a minimum of a
five year period in the event that there are less than anti-
cipated spectators and usage of the Orange Bowl. Rather than
try to have the Commission involved in a very complex matter
at this time, I would like to indicate to you that I would
prefer to go to the users first and explain this to them be-
cause it appears from our evaluation of the proposals that the
users are going to have to come to some conclusion about the
longer term use of the Orange Bowl if we're going to successful-
ly get a new scoreboard.
Mr. Plummer: What do you want, do you want the authority of
of this Commission.
Mr. Andrews: I want you to adopt a simple motion to present
this to the users first and then after I've consulted with
them and we have a consensus of opinion I can come back with
a better recommendation to the Commission that will be in a
position for you to establish a policy.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that the authority be given to
the City Manager to sit down and discuss with the bid proposers
more ramifications of the scoreboard for the Orange Bowl.
Rev. Gibson: You say the users or the....
Mr. Andrews: No, just the users. The users have a committee
that I've been meeting with. They consist of the Totos, the
Dolphins, the Orange Bowl Committee, the University of Miami.,.
61 S EP Z'
Rev. Gibson: He said the bidders rather than users.
• Mr. 13Oboso: I think he said the proposers.
Mr. Plummer: The people that supplied the bids, that he shall
sit down with them.
Mr. Andrews: What we'll do is take each one of these proposals
that we've received, sit down with the User's Committee, analyze
these proposals, bring in the people who are making the pro-
posals so that we all have understanding and as a result of
that I will come to you with a specific recommendation as to
which is the better of the proposals.
The preceding motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer and
seconded by Rev. Gibson and passed and adopted by the follow-
ing vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Mr.
Reboso. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
44, AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO OBTAIN INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL
APPRAISAL ON 60,6 ACRE VIRGINIA KEY PARCEL PROPOSED TO BE
ACQUIRED BY. MLAMI DADE WATER .AND SEItWER. AUTHORITY.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Vice -Mayor, I'd like to offer a resolution
at this time; it is short. I think you will recall my concern
about the property at Virginia Key of which is for the expan-•
sion of the sewage facilities. There has been two appraisals
which have had'a wide discreptancy. I would like to offer a
resolution now which will state that we the City of Miami hire
our own appraiser to go in and appraise the property for pur-
poses of transfer. It is a resolution authorizing the City
Manager to have an independent professional appraisal prepared
to establish the fair market value of 60.6 acres of Virginia
Key parcel proposed for acquisition by the Miami Dade Water
and Sewer Authority for the expansion of the Virginia Key Waste
Water Disposal Plant and setting forth the method of paying
for the cost of this appraisal. I'll move,that, Mr. Vice -Mayor.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1083
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE
AN INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL APPRAISAL PREPARED TO
ESTABLISH THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE 60.6 ACRE
VIRGINIA KEY PARCEL PROPOSED FOR ACQUISITION BY
THE MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHDRITY FOR THE
EXPANSION OF THE VIRGINIA LEY WASTE WATER DISPOSAL
PLANT; AND SETTING FORTH THE METHOD OF PAYING FOR
THE COST OF THIS APPRAISAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk'sybffice.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
NOTE: Mayor Ferre entered the meeting at 3:45 P.M.
45. MirtgilinHait tfAittic CONVENIENCE xEaairve
The Mayor announced that the Commission was ready to pro-
ceed with the advertised semi-annual public hearing to consider
applications involving Certificates of Public Convenience and
Necessity for the operation of taxicabs and for -hire cars in the
City of Miami.
Sergeant Webb of the Miami Police Department's Taxicab
Bureau'appeared and stated that the eight applications for trans-
fer of certificates were all recommended by the Taxicab Bureau.
Attorney Irwin Christie appeared and made the following
statement:
There was a discussion, a problem betweennsome of the cab
owners, and we have sought to save the Commission some time and
entered into a stipulation, and the stipulation --there might have
been some problem as to the utilization of certain names that
would cause some confusion, but because all the parties were de-
sirous of reaching an amicable solution -there was a case between
Mr. Erlichman and Tony Gonzalez, who is here, and Checker Cab.
We have no objection at this juncture to the transfer of the ap-
plication. It has been stipulated --and I'd like that to be part
of the record --that Mr. Tony Gonzalez, if the Commission grants
the transfer, will utilize the name --will not utilize the name of
Checker Cab of Miami, but is thinking of utilizing the name of
Tony's Checker Cab, or another name not to conflict with Checker
Cab. The other name being up to his option. Am I correct, Mr.
Gonzalez?
Unidentified person in the audience replied in the affir-
mative.
Mr. Christie: OK, Mr. Gonzalez is here, and I'd like that
made part of the record, and Mr. Lloyd to acknowledge as the
City Attorney.
John Lloyd, City Attorney: Yes, it has been made part of
the record.
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by Mr.
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1084
A RESOLUTION GRANTING THE APPLICATIONS
SET FORTH HEREIN FOR THE REPLACEMENT
AND TRANSFER OF CERTIFICATES OF PUBLIC
CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's office)
Upon being seconded by Reverend Gibson the resolution was
passed and adoptep by the following vote - AYES: Reverend
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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REPORT TO THE CITY COMMISSION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON
4, ON: ALTERNATE TAXIS USE STUDY
The Commission next took up for consideration the report of
Commissioner Rose Gordon on an alternate taxicab use study.
Mrs. Gordon made the following statement:
You received a memo from me which you have before you, I
assume. While Mr. Eads is making ready a map that will be shown
to you I am going to recap. the history of the reason why I am.
here to give you a report today on the taxicab mini -bus committee.
On January the 24th the taxicab industry appeared before
this Commission requesting a rate increase. During the hearing
on the rate increase certainconversations took place.. Some of
that conversation is conversation I introduced into the minutes
of that meeting, and I'll read it because it's important that you
get the true history of the facts that preceded today's hearing.
basked Mr. Barrett, who was the attorney for the taxicab indus-
try, Mr. Barrett, this is related, but not directly with what you
are requesting, but still I expect to hear an expression fromyou
because the taxicab industry, in my thinking, plays an,extremely
important part in solving the energy crisis. Now, my question to
you, from where you sit, is it possible that the taxicab industry
could develop something in the way of a two-tier cab service; one
being the kind that would be more like an auto -bus, jitney type
service; also a sort of a,car-pool service. For instance, where
more than one passenger could be picked up and dropped off, in a
certain number of vehicles. We understand there could only?be a
percentage of your vehicles. We also understand that they are
not all under one ownership, so it would be a matter of everyone
doing their little bit to aid the energy crisis. Do you think --
that this is not predicated on the matter of the rate increase --
I told him this was not predicated on the rate increase; this was
a matter of personal information and information for the public
at large --do you think this is a possibility? I further added --
and Mr. Plummer raised an objection in between regarding his con-
cern for. the Metro Transit Authority. ,Mr. Plummer said, May I
interrupt, because we got into this before, Mrs. Gordon. Let me
refresh; your memory of what we got into, because we discussed
this before, and two weeks later, Paul, you should remember, Dave
Reynolds from the Metro Transit Authority came running down here
and said, gentlemen, don't put anybody in business against us.
That was Mr. Plummer's remark.t. I responded, let me remind you that
MTA is well subsidized by our tax dollars, and what the people are
entitled to is the best possible, service, and not a protection of
MTAb system. Now •I am asking a very ligitimate question of an
industry that can help us serve the people, and I haven't gotten
an answer and I'd like to get it. Mr. Plummer answered me, yes but
I still think the resolution of this Commission has to be consider-
ed, and that was overwhelmingly; -that your exceptional vote, this
Commission addressed itself and said, we will not put anybody in
business against MTA. I said,'we are not moving on a resolution,
Mr. Plummer. Would you let me get an answer to my question, please?
Mr. Plummer: The only thing I was trying to bring out originally
was, Rose, that if you go into this field of exploration I feel in
all candor that ,Dave Reynolds should be here instead of two weeks
from today having him run down here. Mrs. Gordon--and;I responded:
I don't consider this a public hearing on this issue. When and if
it comes about there will be one. That's today. At this moment i
want an answer to see whether it is a possibility to be done, and
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I am entitled to an answer. OK, that was the beginning. I added
further, I would like to see this on a local scale, on a neighbor-
hood grid type of auto -bus, such as they have in some of the South
American countries. As I recall, they have it in Lima. I added
further, you have to realize, Mr. Mayor, that I am going to make
a decision on one thing, and many factors come into play when one
makes decisions. This is a matter that is of deep concern to me,
and I am glad I got the answers I would like to hear because I
hear that the taxicab industry is cooperative; they have responded.
Mr. Barrett has said, you are suggesting, if I understand you cor-
rectly, that rather than use a cab singularly and solely for one
passenger, Iola could perhaps expand that so that perhaps additional
passengers could be carried. I answered yes, and the Mayor had
said, all right, that's a matter that I would appreciate your dis-
cussing and maybe coming back at a future Commission meeting, and
he appointed me a committee of one to work with the industry to see
where we would go from that point.
OK. In casting my vote at that time I said, I am going to
vote with the motion for the rate increase because of the rising
cost in every item we deal with, and we have to face reality. I
am also pleased to hear the representatives of the taxicab indus-
try express a willingness to help serve the public in a more
diversified manner than is presently being used for taxicabs, and
for this reason I am voting yes, and I would like to add a preface
to that. The preface is that in developing a secondary use for
taxicabs it has to have a beneficial effect upon the entire com-
munity, the reason being that cabs are not riding full all of the
time. All of us know that. And that is the reason why they come
in so frequently, annually, and say, we need more money; we are
not making enough money; we need a rate increase. I am sick and
tired, and so are you, I think, ladies and gentlemen, of hearing
people ask for rate increases. And I think if we can utilize
the vehicles that are on the streets right now without increasing
the number of vehicles; we will do a number of worthwhile things.
One, the vehicles' will be used to the fullest, and secondly, we
will have a little less air pollution. And thirdly, the people
will have more public service from the standpoint of transporta-
tion. Now, some time after that there was a story in the Miami
News on the 28th of January which stated that I had expressed --
and I didn't read you the whole minutes. There are parts in there,
other parts, but it's too long --saying that I believe that we
should have a secondary use for taxicabs and that we should have
them running as a jitney type service, and I expressed a desire
to have the type of jitney service, particularly in the Little
Havana section, because that area is very badly congested. The
streets are very narrow and the cars have a difficult time get-
ting in and out of the streets. In fact this morning we correct-
ed that particular problem by one-waying many of the streets,
which is the result of a recommendation that I made some time ago;
that a study be held to see if the Traffic Department of Metro
would go along on the idea, and they did, and so we took that ac-
tion this morning. The article that I mentioned to you that ap-
peared in the Miami News on February the 8th said, Taxis as a
part-time jitney service, said will be moving traffic in the
narrow streets of Little Havana and that would help a lot, and
there is a lot more in it, and after that day received communica-
tion from Mr. Pino--and this :.s no reflection on him, because he
is a smart man; he recognizes a good idea when he reads it in
the paper --and he suggested that he could supply the kind of
service that we would need in Little Havana. So he came before
this Commission somewhere toward the end of February and expres-
sed his desire to supply this kind of service. He had some ve-
hicles that he had been expecting to use somewhere in Dade
County. He had not met with any good results, obviously, from
the County or from the Public Service Commission, and he felt
perhaps he could put these things to work in some other manner
in the City. I don't hold this against you at all, Mr. Pino.
I appreciate your ingenuity. And we continued with our commit-
tee, and put Mr. Pino on it. Mr. Pino worked with us in our
committee. We met and had a joint meeting of all parties, and
there was a great number of them here in City Hall on April
the 28th, I think, at which time it was an information gather-
ing session. Everyone was allowed to speak and I gathered all
the information I could possibly gather from all the speakers
in order that we could analyze it properly and decide what kind
of a recommendation --and I don't think anybody here thinks that
it was an easy job. And I am not saying that I have found the
total solution to anything, because I would be further amiss if
I said I had the total solution to anything, because nobody has
that. But I think what I have is something that is a step in
the right direction. I truly believe in my heart that this is a
step that ought to be taken first, and that step is to initiate
a pilot route with the taxicabs, utilizing them along the fixed
route, and also utilizing them on a multiple pick up and a
multiple drop off system. Under the regulation of our own Taxi-
cab Bureau there would be no problem in proceding along these
lines. The taxicab industry delineated, with the help of MTA,
five separate and distinct possible pilot routes to begin this
kind of a service. I think that at this time I would ask Mr.
Bads if he would show us the map so that you can see the recom-
mendation for the pilot route and the recommendation for the
initial fares in these routes. These routes are zoned routes, and
I think maybe so that the people in the audience probably want to
see this, too. How would you suggest we do it, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you explain it to the Commis-
sion first, and then we will turn it to the audience and go over
it.
Mrs. Gordon: I think I am going to ask Sergeant Webb
to explain it to you first, because he did a great deal of re-
search, and he went out and located areas where the cabs could
use for pick up points in those zones, and he did this layout and
did a magnificent job, and I think it would be proper if he would
explain it.
Officer Lamport: Between the committee and the taxicab
industry, and also the MTA, they came up with --a rough diagram
was brought to the Police Department and asked if we could go
around and draw up some kind of plan that would be feasible, a
working plan, to Commissioner Gordon's committee.
Mayor Ferre: Officer Lamport, let me ask you a
question. I am a little confused now. Is it your recommen-
dation; is this the Police Department's recommendation? Is
this Commissioner Gordon's recommendation, or is it the con-
sensus of the committee?
Officer Lamport: It was brought to the Police Depart-
ment and it was the recommendation by the taxicab industry.
Mayor Ferre: I see; so the industry recommended
this as a routing.
Officer Lamport: Yes, sir. They gave me a rough idea
of a route and we came up with this. The original routes that
they came up with didn't include some of the points that they
thought should have been covered in this particular route. This
was broken up into zones (indicating on map) and was to be
starting at SW 29th Court, which indicates on the City map here,
and would continue down SW 8th Street for, eastbound on SW 8th
Street ---
Mayor Ferre: Let me call up Mr. Reynolds who I see
down there, and John Dyer, so you can follow it with us, because
I am sure you are going to want ---
Mrs. Gordon: While they are coming up I will say we
discussed it with Mr. Dyer, and we discussed it with Mr. Reynolds,
and with our own taxicab bureau. Rose Gordon is not a traffic
expert and doesn't profes6 to be one. I am playing the role of
a coordinator, and this was my role.
Officer Lamport: This Zone number one here, which
is indicated in green, would be the SW 8th Street and take in
NW 27th Avenue and NW 7th Street, returning on 22nd Avenue to a
main shelter station which would be located at SW 8th Street and
12th Avenue. Let me explainione thing further here. Each zone
indicates that the people in this particular taxicab, if they
want to continue on further, would be required to exit the taxi-
cab at this main point, or each time a color code changes, they
would be required to exit the taxicab. This was proposed by the
taxicab industry, and 1 just followed their lines in drawing this
up.
Mayor Ferre: What does a circle and an S mean?
Officer Lamport: That means a shelter area.
Mayor Ferre: And the small circle with the blue line
and numbers; indicate stopping points?
Officer Lamport: Yes; it would indicate stopping
points. Now when the police department was called in on this
it was my understanding they would just stop at these main
points, and all of these main points are indicated by Jackson
Memorial Hospital and Cedars of Lebanon, and so on.
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Mayor Ferrel Would there be a fixed point where they would
stop, or would they stop anywhere in between?
Officer Lamport: It was my understanding when I met with
the Committee and the taxicab industry that they, due to a pos-
sible insurance problem, could not stop like a bus.
Mayor Ferre: They would have to stop where?
Officer Lamport: Only at the points that are here (indi-
cating).
Mayor Ferre: They couldn't stop one block farther or one
block shorter.
Officer Lamport: It is my understanding that it would come
under their insurance. The insurance cost would be prohibitive.
Each zone indicates --the green would indicate a fifty cent charge
and that would take in this area of the City of Miami. The rough
draft that was proposed to me was supposed to take in, for ex-
ample, the Food Stamp Store and the Social Security Administra-
tion downtown, and the main body of the downtown area, and each
of these listed on this map, and would be a stopping area. The
zones go anywhere from fifty cents up to seventy cents. Now, for
example, it is my understanding that if someone was leaving, for
example, the Smathers Building at 29th Court and loth Street and
wanted to go to Jackson Memorial Hospital they would have to
follow this particular route, exist the cab at SW 8th Street and
12th Avenue, and then change cabs to go to the Jackson Memorial
complex, which would take in two zones and would be a charge of
a dollar ten one-way. This is the general map of the different
stops, and it is my understanding also that they would only stop
at these points with the light blue numbers. The North boundary
would be Jackson Memorial Hospital. That would be as far north
as the system would go. The Northwest side would be 27th Avenue
and NW 7th Street. The south boundary, the furthest it would
go would be SW 7th Street and would run all the way to the down -
area. East and West would be 27th Avenue and Biscayne Boulevard;
well, 29th Court.
Mrs. Gordon: I would also like to point out that in the
pilot study which we are recommending there are four items. One;
establish the routes for the purpose of establishing a market
desiring and willing to utilize the service. Two; that a minimum
of thirty taxicabs be specified to service this trial route. I
would like to tell you that ninety some -odd cab owners or opera-
tors responded; wanted to participate in this service. Three;
that the trial route be utilized for a minimum of ninety days so
the market can be evaluated. The fourth item is standards of
performance; response time must be evaluated. Five; evaluation
criteria; people carried; cost -to -the consumer; total system
cost. Passengers carried must be accumulated and evaluated. The
sixth item was the City must maintain control over the taxicabs
operating the proposed system similar to that control exercised
over the taxicab industry. Presently the taxicab industry stands
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ready to begin a trial operation over specific routes should the
City Commission wish to pursue such an alternative use study. 1
want to point out to you, ladies and gentlemen, that I did not
hold this joint meeting with the entire committee until after
the County report came out on alternate uses for taxicabs. I
didn't think it would be proper to second-guess the study. And
in the study there was the information that taxicabs are under-
utilized, and it was a natural. We have a willing industry, and
we have a need in this community; so to put the two things toge-
ther would be in my opinion the right step to take at this time.
Officer Lamport: One more thing I'd like to put out. I
don't know whether the Commission noticed the note on the bottom
that taxicabs would be required to leave with a total of five
people. If they left with under this passenger limit they would
be required to split the meter cost.
Mrs. Gordon: I also wish to point out the other use that the
cabs would be put to; that is that anyone desiring to, let's say
go to a hospital from a specific location would call in the day
before and they would then be routed with four other people who
were going in the same general direction, to be picked up, let's
say, at whatever time they were mentioning the following day; and
we think that this would be a very effective door-to-door service
that would be a secondary use of this pilot system, and we call
this the multiple pick -up --multiple drop-off, or multiple pick-up
single drop-off, or single pick-up, multiple drop-off, which means
that you can pick up people at five locations and drop them at
five; pick them up at one and drop them at one.
Officer Lamport: Briefly, the green zone indicates the
Smathers Plaza Building at 29th Court, and 27th Avenue to NW 7th
Street, returning 22nd Avenue to SW 8th Street, and to the main
distribution area at SW 8th Street and 12th Avenue, and exiting
the cab at this point. If you wanted to continue on and go to
Jackson Memorial Hospital Complex or the Civic Center Complex, the
Metro Justice Building and the Public Health Department, and from
there if you wanted to continue from Jackson Memorial Hospital
you would enter another zone area, which is indicated by the yellow,
zone number four, which would be a seventy cent charge to the
downtown area, NE 5th Street and Biscayne Boulevard. The purple
indicates from the main distribution area to the downtown, central
downtown area of Miami. The light blue circles indicate the dif-
ferent points that the taxicab would stop.
Mr. Plummer: What is any different in this than what we
used to know as the old jitney system? There is nothing different.
The only difference is the increase in fares and covering a dif-
ferent locale. But isn't this exactly how the old jitney system
used to work?
Officer Lamport: Somewhat, yes.
Mayor Ferre: This is just a little bit more structured. I
think you will get more specific information.
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Mrs. Gordon: J'.L., it is; it's a form of a jitney service.
However, it is not putting extra vehicles on the street. One of
the things we should try to avoid is putting more cars or more
vehicles onto the street. We should try to utilize what we have
to the fullest, and that's the reason why we are approaching it
in this manner. I just wanted to quote one more newspaper art-
icle which is very pertinent. It was on February 24th and it
was in the Miami Herald editorial section, and it said, Transit
Brakes are coming off. And it :quotes: Miami Commissioner Rose
Gordon is working with the local taxicab industry to provide jit-
ney type pick-up service for old people to senior centers and
for children to day-care centers, and the cost would equal the
cab fare for the person at the most distant point, and the
cost would be split by all passengers. If the plan could be
worked out it would be a small but significant break -through.
The value of jitneys also is being recognized in Los Angeles
where the City Council has decided to franchise them and has
sent out a call for bids. In other words,all over the country
people are trying to get cars and vehicles off the streets as
much as possible and transport the most people with the least
number`of vehicles. I call your attention to the Houston, Texas
plan, which is called a cab pooling project. I received this
information in May from Houston, and they were finding it a very
good service. They are utilizing taxi pools, which is a similar
idea of what we are talking about today. I don't say we have
the perfect plan, but I say we have something to start with.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are there any questions from the
Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Yes. The only thing I would like to do,
Maurice, if I can try to keep separated apples and pears. Now,
what is being proposed by Mr. Pino--won't one affect the other?
is what I am saying. In other words, as I recall his routes are
in the general area. Is that correct?
Mayor Ferre: That question is obviously an important ques-
tion. Officer Lamport?
Mr. Rafael Villaverde: My concern was, after looking at the
plan, if proper compensation had been made to the decentralization
service that has been taking place within the Social Security
Administration, and food stamps.
Mrs. Gordon: Rafael, this would be taken into considera-
tion when the final lines are drawn for the plan. This is to see
how the Commissioners react, and then final steps would be taken.
Unidentified man: My name is Clifford , and I repre-
sent the senior citizens. I belong to the Congress of Senior
Citizens. Our concern is not with taxis or jitneys. I discussed
this with Max Friedson, and we are concerned with the lack of
transportation for the elderly and the cost of such transportation.
I have discussed this with Mrs. Gordon. She has talked to me about
it. I am concerned about whether or not taxis will be able to
fit the pocketbook of the average senior citizen. I don't see
how it can. Maybe it can, but I doubt it, and at the present time,
from what I can see, there is no problem for the healthy or the
wealthy. It's only for the unhealthy and the unwealthy. It's
only for the elderly and the handicapped, and I submit to this
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Commission whatever plan you consider please consider the fact
that many senior citizens have difficulty with cataracts, arth-
ritis; transportation is a very important thing for them, and
please don't let them out on the street corner to be mugged or
to be drenched with the rains that exist today.
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I said; the multiple pick-up that
comes right to the door. And I want to tell you that I have a
copy of a petition that was sent to the Mayor --and he informed us
all that he received it --and I counted the names on here and there
were eighty name4--forty-seven of them are in the County. Only
thirty-three live in the City, and only five live in the Little
Havana area, which proves the point that the entire County needs'
transportation; not just the City of Miami. Our jurisdiction is
only in the City, so we can only do what we can do here.
Man: My contention is, especially in the County, that we
need transportation not tomorrow, not next week, but yesterday,
and that applies to the County Commissioners; and every time, as
you probably know, the applicants that are running call you, and
I am afraid they don't give the solutions that we need. All I
am saying today, and to make it clear, the elderly have a terrific
problem, and I ask again that you consider it.
Mr. Sigmund Zilber: Sigmund Zilber, 1260 95th Street,
representing the South Florida Taxicab Association. We sat in on
meetings with Commissioner Gordon and cooperated with the Committee
in trying to come up with a proposal. I think what we have got to
understand, though, is that we are mixing two complete ideas to-
gether into one, and that's not really what we have got here.
The door-to-door pick up of elderly, sick people is something
that has to be handled in a completely different type of system.
I proposed a proposal to Commissioner Gordon describing how that
could be done, either with our vehicles, or with County vehicles
or City vehicles, but it has to be done on a government sponsored
type of operation. I'll pass that out to you in a few minutes.
But this system here was put together as a jitney --flat rate ser-
vice, basically, is what it is --was strictly from point to point;
creatingsix or seven major points, from SW 29th Street to SW 12th
and 8th, being one major point, downtown another, Jordan Marsh
Department Store another, and Jackson Memorial Hospital a fifth;
possibly the government complex a sixth. The taxicab industry
felt that they could operate with their five -passenger vehicles in
this area on a trial basis as long as the cars were full when they
left point A going to point B; that if the cars were not full the
meter fare would have to be split by a majority of the people in
the car. We do not know if there is a market for the service or
not. We do not know how many people require,this type of service
or would want it. It would still require people walking to these
major points and waiting for a. cab to come to have five passengers.
When we came in with our proposal with this map,which was drawn by
the MTA, by the way; not the industry; the MTA suggested this
basic area. We suggested that there has to be shelter areas at.
these places; someplace where people can be out of the rain and
the sun in case there aren't five ready to go. We have also asked
that some form of communication be put at these locations so that
when there were five people ready to go if there wasn't a cab
available they could pick up a phone and call either a major cab
company or the Miami Taxicab Bureau, who would then relay it to the
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cab company. We are willing, as an industry, to try this on a
9O-day basis. We have no idea if there is a demand for this ser-
vice, or what kind of market there is, but because the Commis-
sion, through Commissioner c irdon, has asked us to participate
in some type of pilot program, we have said we will. We have no
idea if this is needed or will work, but we are willing to try
it. This is a copy of the other type of plan that Commissioner
Gordon is talking about. The State of West Virginia has probably
come up with the best solution for transportation to the needy of
anybody in this country, and that is a stamp program like food
stamps. You can buy transportation stamps in the State of West
Virginia, anywhere from one per cent. on the value to seventy-five
per cent. depending on your economic status. You can use these
stamps for any form of transportation; bus, taxicab, train,
airplane. People are allotted so many per month, and this is the
way that government actually has been picking up the tab, and I
don't know if our government is ready to or can pick up the tab.
Maybe it is a state and federal obligation, not just a city obli-
gation.
Mayor Ferre: These aren't sold; these are given?
Mr. Zilber: They are anywhere from given for nothing up to
seventy-five per cent of their value; like food stamps. Governor
Moore of West Virginia put this plan in about six months ago, but
it is sponsored by the Federal Government to the tune of about
eighty-five per cent.; in the State of West Virginia to the tune
of about fifteen per cent. It is a test program in West Virginia.
Mayor Ferre: Let's hear from Mr. John Dyer or from Mr.
Reynolds;, either one of you, on your comments, or recommendations,
if you will, or your suggestions.
David Reynolds, representing the Metropolitan Transit
Authority: As Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Zilber has said, we have tried
to cooperate as much as we can in this effort to find some comple-
mentary system of transportation meeting a need that the transit
system doesn't now meet, and it is very possible that this type
of service can meet this need. I agree totally with Mr. Zilber
that the needs of the elderly and the handicapped have to be met
in an entirely different way, and the County did respond to that
need and is developing plans and programs for transportation for
the handicapped and elderly. This is special service for a spe-
cial purpose. It has to be handled completely apart from the normal
transportation services. As a matter of fact, all the Federal
programs, all the Federal Grant programs require that asa condi-
tion for receiving these grants you do respond to this need; and
of course the County will have to continually respond to that
need. It is worth a trial if the industry feels that it can do
this. The type of subsidy that West Virginia is using in the
form of transportation stamps would be very valuable. We have no
way to do that at this point. It would have to be explored. We
would have to see what they are doing and how it is working out.
It is certainly worthy of further study and investigation.
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you address yourself specifically to
this particular situation.
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Mr. Reynolds: It has been said that this is a jitney
type service. Well, I don't quite agree with that definition,
because what it is doing really is allowing a taxicab to per-
form its function in a little more liberal way. It really isn't
a jitney, because it is collecting people at certain points and
the cab carrying them between point A and point B. It's more
or less like an express service rather than a jitney that stops at
every corner, at every one of our bus stops, if you will, and
picks up passengers. It is a little bit different in that sense;
and it is worthy of a trial. It does seem to have some aspects
of a complementary service. The pricing in it has to be within
the framework of the economics of a taxicab operation.
Mayor Ferre: As I understand what you are saying, you are
basically saying that you have no objections and you don't see
anything wrong with this. Is that correct?
Mr. Reynolds: With this particular proposal; that is
correct. As long as we can do it as a complementary system
rather than a competitive system it doesn't harm the area as a
whole.
Mayor Ferre: And in your opinion this is complementary
rather than competitive.
Mr. Reynolds: It appears to be. Enough isn't known about
this type of thing, but it appears to be a complementary type of
service.
Mr. John Dyer: I serve as the Dade County Transportation
Coordinator in the County Manager's office. I'd like to make
three or four major comments. The first one is I think one of the
key things that have been said a number of times that we all need
to realize, there has not really been demonstrated any size or
quantity of demand. Everybody says there is a need. There well
may be a need. The need may be much greater than we really anti-
cipate now. There are two things going on in Metropolitan Dade
County now in which a number of you are involved, which will
get us to a point of being able to quantify demand very quickly.
The two things are an extensive transit survey. A hundred and
seventeen thousand survey forms completed two weeks ago, present-
ly being coded, and will be up on the computer in less than two
months, less than three months. We are also surveying, indepen-
dent of that, in excess of sixty organizations which serve
handicapped and elderly persons with transportation services.
That is a very complex service system; in excess of a hundred
vehicles are involved; we are trying to get a quantitative handle
on that service capability which presently exists, and what else
is required. That's the first big point. .There really isn't an
establishment of the size of demand,; whether it's too large or
too small, or anything else. Now specifically in terms of this
proposal right now, I want to get in if I might about three or
four things. First, in terms of the Dade County interest in this,
clearly the transit system is operated by the County now. There
are some potential conflicts'between this propsal and the opera-
tion of the transit system today. The six or seven points that
you see between routes that are proposed all are or can be reached
from point to point by MTA buses, with no more than one transfer,
at a cost of thirty cents. Thus, there clearly are possible con_
flicts, considerable ones.
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Mayor Ferre: Now this is contrary to what Mr. Reynolds
just said. I want to make sure we understand this. Mere is what
you are saying: You are saying that in your opinion there could
be potential, because I think that's the word you used.
Mr. Dyer: I am saying there are very possibly potential
conflicts.
Mayor Ferre: But you don't know for sure.
Mr. Dyer: Idon't think anyone knows until something
like this is tried, or we have a lot better data. The question
really gets to be, does this type of system simply take people
off the buses and into cabs, or do you pick up new riders from
individuals who presently do not ride the buses, but get to ---
Mayor Ferre: Well, how do you ever know that unless you
go out and survey the riders themselves.
Mr. Dyer: I think that's what we have done, and we will
have that --be in a position to tell very specifically in about
two months; all of this, not just in the City of Miami but
throughout Dade County. It has not been done in ten years in
this County, may I add.' We are doing that because of the abso-
lute necessity and recognition of the problem County -wide;
among handicapped and elderly, as well as among all other indi-
viduals who are potential riders.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Dyer, did you express this to Mrs.
Gordon's committee; that this form has gone out, and that there
was a ---
Mrs. Gordon: No, we haven't talked that recently. We
talked some time ago, and John, you were not opposed to this;
you thought it was a good idea.
Mr. Dyer: I am going to say, Commissioner, that I think
there are some very strong points in it, if I might. The third
thing that is, that relates to;the Dade County interests: If
there happens to be, in essence, a switch in ridership, simply
the MTA buses, to this sytem, then that's going to mean either
increase in fares,reduction in bus routes, or increases in sub-
sidy, one of the three things, for the MTA transit system, all
of which means that somehow there is going to be a reduction in
the size of the transit system, an increase in costs, or simply
one way or another the citizens of Dade County paying more for
the operOtion of the transit system itself. The third thing
with regard to this is that there is a proposal now for a dial -
a -ride, dial -a -bus system, which involves the City of Coral
Gables, South Miami, which we -will be, of course, wanting to
expand county -wide very quickly, that very well may be in con-
flict with this. We just simply aren't aware of the impact of
it at this time.
Mayor Ferre: Let me at this stage --I just want to get
right to the bottom line of this. Mr. Dyer, would you answer
this question. Would you and your department have any objec-
tion to us proceeding on a trial basis while your computer
makes its run in the next two or three months? And in that way
I think we would also have input information to see how it is
functioning. Would you have any objection to that?
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Mr. Dyer: Mr. Mayor I think we would probably not have
objections if the city is prepared to go with the front end
Bost necessary to start the system. That is, there will be
considerable front end cost in terms of preparation of shelters.
A communication system for the taxicab system to operate, signing
of the system, of routes and other things.
Mayor Ferre: We are not going to be paying for that.
The City is not paying for that? You mean the radio system
on the cabs?
Mr. Dyer: Somebody will have to pay for a communication
system back and forth.
Mayor Ferre: That is going to be the cab industry's baby.
Mr. Dyer: We are talking about telephone system, --
Mayor Ferre: You are talking about shelters
and telephones at shelters?
Mr. Dyer: We are talking about a sheltered area at the
6 major points so people could be out of the rain and sun,
and a two-way telephone either to the taxicab bureau or to
the major cab companies, where whenvpeople are there and
there is no 'cab, they could pick up the phone and say send_
a cab to such and such a point.
The point of making the system work, and I want to
indicate it is a workable system, is whether or not three,
more than three people, can be carried in each cab. If less
than three people are carried in a cab, by nature of the system,
those three people will be being gouged in effect, because they
will have to split the cost of the fare among themselves, which
is a metered fare. That means in effect they may be paying
instead of 75or $1.00, a $1.50 or more for a cost, compared
to 30,-that gets to be a very high cost.
Rev. Gibson: You said something about South Miami and
Coral Gables, explain that.
Mr. Dyer: That involves the possibility, Commissioner of
Dade County getting through contract arrangements, the Coral
Gables bus system. It would mean an extensive dial -a -ride
dial -a -bus study, started there, expanded in stage 2 to
downtown Miami, and the one thing I wanted to indicate further
is , at the same time are developing the data, we are developing
hopefully a comprehensive, urbanized area, mini -bus policy and
program. There are now 9 mini -buses under order to be delivered
to M.T.A. February 1, approximately. That may well be expanded
up to as many as 20 or 25 by February 1, which would permit us
to serve the entire urbanized area, not just downtown Miami but
include perhaps Miami Beach and parts of the Model Cities area,.
parts of Little Havana.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask a question, because what you said
rang a bell. Are you telling me sir, that M.T.A. is about to
go into the mini -bus system.
Mr. Dyer: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: I am s'are they did hear any more than what
I heard and if they didn't understand it any better than 1
did, I want to make sure they understand it. That's all I want
to hear.
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Mrs. Gordon: Father, we discussed this at the committee
meeting, and the taxicab industry isn't too happy about the
idea, but they know that if it happens, they would have to
accept that reality. Meanwhile if they institUba at this
trial, what they would be doing would be a big favor for
the transportation system in general, I would think. With
regard to the shelters that were mentioned. Sgt.Webb here,yot4 were
the one who looked at the location and came up with some
specific area where we would not have to develop any
shelters, we could utilize present sheltering systems, so
could you tell us what the total score is?
Officer Lamport: The original, real quickly, route
that was drawn up by the committee, I rode this route and
found that several of the areas we could utilize as shelter
areas, for example, Jackson Memorial Hospital complex, a
shelter area could be utilized at the entrance of the main
amplex, there is an education building that could be utilizied
by removing one parking meter and putting up a taxicab zone,
Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, and the public health department
could be joined together at this point and the drop-off point
could be compined in front of the public health department
building, utilizing the shelter at the building, and the
taxicab zone could be installed in front of the bus stop
if need be,. The Justice Bldg and the State office building
parking area between 12th avenue and 13th Avenue on the north
side of N.W. 12th Street could be used by removing a parking
rneterand putting in a taxicab zone, however this area would
require some type of shelter. The Robert King High building,
the shelter is already installed on the S.W. corner of 7th
Street and 14th Avenue with benches and could be used as
a taxicab zone.
Mayer Ferre: It isn't that much of an investment, is
that right?
Officer Lamport: It works out to about two areas that
would require shelters.
Mayor Ferre: I will express the opinion that I think
it is a great idea and I think it has a lot of merit. Before
we bring it to a vote, however, I think it is important to
hear item #3 which is the Miami Mini -bus system, or cooperative
or whatever it is called, and I think it is important that we
get an explanation of that and then come back and distinguish
between apples and oranges.
Mr. Signumd Zilber: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, the
subject is completely unrelated to what we have been discussing,
the taxicab industry is coming in front of you today at the
public hearing for the cab industry to request that the written
examination ongeographygiven by the City of Miami taxicab bureau
to new drivers be re -vamped and taken out of the ordinance. The
reason for this is that basically 50% of the men that are going
down to the taxicab bureau in the last 5 or 6 months, failed
this test. There is the largest unemployment in Dade County
now than we have had in 7 or 8 years, and our industry cannot
get enouth drivers. The written examination is not given in
many major cities throughout"the country. One of the few that
gave it was the City of New York, and they just recently dropped
their test from 60 questions to 6 for the same reason the cab
industry could not get drivers. Cities like Philadelphia, Baltimore
Chicago, Houston, do not give a written examination. We feel that
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drivers still should be licensed, and the records checked
like the police department does, but a geography test, they
are giving now is very unfair, and very tough for men to pass.
We have also noticed in the paper a few weeks ago, the
city of Miami has hired the University of Chicago to do a
study to revamp the city examinations for different departments,
so minority groups could pass them. We feel the taxicabs in
the city of Miami are radio dispatched, our dispatchers know
the city and if a driver has a problem reaching a point he
can pick the microphone up and be lead into this point by
radio, that a knowledge of certain buildings in the City of
Miami does not make him a good cab driver. We have found that
men have come down here from up north who have owned taxicabs
and been in the industry for 20 years, and have not been
able to pass this test. We cannot get drivers, we can't
service you on any type of system if we can't put our cars
on the road. We need drivers. We have a big unemployment
problem in this town. People are out of work who have lived
here 10 and 15 years who would like to work for us. Our own
company with 42 city permits which is about 10%, has 81
applications since Sept. 4 and 7 of them have passed the
test. I have the applications to prove it.
Mrs. Gordon; Can we get an answer on that?
Mr. Zilber: Two reasons why, one, some can't pass it
because they don't know the geography that well, some must
have criminal records which we don't know about till we send
them to the City, others are just scared, when you walk in
and get a 3 or 4 page test, if you are not used to studying
and taking tests, you can panic.
Mayor Ferre: How many of the 80 are Spanish speaking?
Mr. Zilber: About 60, sir, ----
Mayor Ferre: Does that have something to do with the
language problem?
Mr. Zilber: They have all filled out applications and
their handwriting is legible and I surmise they can read it,
because they fill out applications. So the can read English,
so I don't think that is the problem.
Mayor Ferre: When a person fills out an application,
he can have somebody help him do it.
Mr. Zilber: They do it at the office and see them fill
it out. We give material to study. We give 4 pages of material
and they are still failing. r
Mrs. Gordon: Is there a shortage of Latin drivers, or
are they about half and half, or what?
Mr. Zilber: I say in the City of Miami, it is about half
half. We have a shortage of drivers,period.
Rev. Gibson: I would think out of fairness, we ought to
ask whoever ought to do it, study the advisability of eliminating
the examination. There must be some merit of all these other
cities have dropped but one or two. No need of us continuing
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going down the river, if we find all the people get drowned.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
set this one matter aside if we can, one year's testing
out of approximately 1000 applicants, 686 pass this test
and 383 did not. So, 64% passed the test the police dept.
has, and 36% did not.
Mayor Ferre: That is not too bad.
Mr. Andrews: In the one area perhaps, that we would
be most criticized for, is the location of different prominent
buildings by address in the City of Miami. If taxicab driver,
prior to becoming_a driver, doesn't know how to get from one
point to another, and he chooses one route over another,that
one route over another may be far longer and cost the passenger
more money. We feel we have an obligation to protect the public
to insure that the drivers we are getting in the city of Miami
are knowledgeable of the city and can get the individual there
over the shortest route with the least expense to the person.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask Mr. Andrews, I am sure, we aren't
the only city that would be concerned about getting people
where they want to go economically and expeditiously, and
I just raise the question, if other people are able to get
around. it may be to our advantage to find out how did they
do it, if the radio system is the answer, then we ought to
know that.
Mayor Ferre: Father, I would recommend, since it is
almost 5:00 and we haven't heard from the other group, and
I am sure that is going to be an hour. We either leave this
for further discussion in the future and I'll remind you of
it, and I'm sure you have a good enough memory, you don't need
reminding of it, or if you want, let's instruct the manager to
come back with a specific recommendations and we will take it
up at another meeting.
Rev. Gibson: I would rather the Manager explore.
Mayor Ferre: Would you come back with a specific, written
memorandum on this item, and we will take it up again.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, ----
Mr, Zilber:Mr. Mayor,
set a date so we could get
drivers, so we would know,
from now, we can have this
Mr. Andrews: I say we
a month.
one question, please, could you
into the season without having
a month from now, or six weeks
back again.
can do this within less than
Mayor Ferre: Within one month, which is by the 24th
of October, we will schedule it on the 24th.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask you a question,how long would
it take the industry to gear up for this pilot program, if
the Commissioners decide to go this route.
Mr. Zilber:If the shelters were created and the signs
put up, two weeks.
Miayor Ferre; Thank you. Mr. Zilber:
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%, PUBLIC HtARING
APPLICATIM FOR MINI -BUS OPERATION BY MIAMI MIMI ALIADOS
Mr. Phillip Schiff: Mr. Mayor, I would like to point
out this I take it as Mr. Pino'a application for a certificate
of public convenience and necessity. I think I should point out
to the Commission, ---is the City Attorney there? ----that there
is a procedural impediment to considering this item.
Mayor Ferre: If he brings up a procedural problem, that
is something we have to take up first, so, ---your name and
address for the record, ---Mr. Lloyd, if you would listen,
and please answer if you can, and if not, instruct us to
what the legal procedure is at this point.
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Mr. Phillip Schiff; For the record, my name is Phillip
Schiff, 444 Brickell Avenue, Miami, Florida, I am an attorney
and I represent Red Top Sedan Service, a certificated carrier.
I would like to point out to the Commission, that this
is an original application, or a certificate of public convenience
and necessity, Your code, of the City of Miami, provides that
a public hearing will be held upon such an application, and
it says,' am going to quote to you now from Sec. 56-75,--"such
hearing shall be not less than 5 days, nor mare than 60 days,
subsequent to the date upon which the application was filed."
My information is that the application was filed sometime early
in July of this year, which is more than 60 days, prior to this
date, the date of the public hearing, and it is my understanding
therefore, from the Code of the City of Miami, that the Commission
may not consider the application at this time.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Attorney, will you give us the ruling
on this.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor prior to the City Attorney giving
us this information, I want to indicate to the Commission that
Mr. Pino, in fairness to his proposal, had contacted my office
and made presentation and had requested -that this matter be
placed as a separate item to be discussed on the Commission
agenda. We were prepared to do that. About that time, we ---
you appointed Commissioner Gordon to represent the Commission
and her findings with reference to the taxicab industry. We
Were afraid that by treating the two subjects separately, 'and
recognizing that this was underway, that the Commission would
not be in the best position to render a policy in either :case.
It was at my request, that the Commission postpone this for
almost a month, so it could heard at this point in time. in
relation to the taxicab industry, so this is not a burden
really on Mr. Pino. I think we have followed the ordinance,but
have followed it in a betterment of the public in that we are
hearing both things at the same time so the Commission can make
a policy decision.
Mayor Ferre: What you are saying is, that administratively
it was you that extended the time.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir.
Mr. Lloyd: Usually in such a situation, where there
are these types of provisions, the courts usually hold that
such provisions are what is known as directory and not man-
datory, and our design usually to, --in a manner of speaking,
hold the public body's feet to the fire, so there isn;t too
long a delay, but 1 have previously examined such decisions as
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this and unless Mr. Schiff can inform me of a specific case
to the contrary, the last cases i looked at on this particular
type of thing, and indeed had to do with our Charter, Which
provided for the time of holding an election, for recall, and
it said that those provisions are directory and not mandatory.
and as long as it is reasonably close, it is all right.
Mayor Ferre: In conclusion, what you are saying, is
we can proceed with this hearing.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, yes,
Mr. Schiff:I disagree.
Mr. Jose Millo: My name is Jose L. Millo, I am an
attorney I represent Miami Mini Aliados and their application.
My address is 2951 S.W. Bayshore Drive, Suite 7G. As you
know we have an application before you for certificate of
public convenience filed by Miami Mini Aliados.
Briefly I would like to set out the chronology of this
application and the events leading up to it. It is my under-
standing, from what Mr. Pino has stated to me, that his interest
of course, was aroused by Commission Gordon's interest in this
matter, and she has been a proponent for the Mini bus system
for a long time, and we certainly must give Commission Gordon
credit for her position and bringing it to the attention of
the public and the government in this City, that this service
is needed, and has been needed for a long time.
Mr. Pino's interest in this area has existed since
November of 1973, when I believe Mr. Pino wrote a letter,to I
Commissioner Gordon, stating his desire to engage in this type
of service. On February 14, 1974, a specific proposal was filed
with the clerk, and was treated as an application. Later on
it was misplaced, and to date have not been able to find it.
Pursuant to that application, on February 28th, 1974, there
was a hearing where Mr. Pino appeared before the City Commission
and City Manager for study. At that time action was deferred
until the Metro studies was completed. On March 28, 1974, Mr.
Pino appeared before the City Commission again, and his appli-
cation was referred to a Committee chaired by Rose Gordon, which
I may say was a one -Commissioner committee. This committee met
one time where Mr. Pino was present. Subsequent to that time
there have been meetings where Mr. Pino has not been present .
Apparently just somebody overlooked inviting Mr. Pino to these
meetings, especially to some of the hurried ones held in the
last few days.
On May 23, 1974, Commission Gordon reported to the City
Commission regarding a meeting which I referred to before,
and at that time she reported that hertrecommendation was
to request the taxicab industry whether they wanted to provide
a pooling service for the public. Again she has made a report
about this matter today, and there have been, as I said, meetings,
---a large meeting where Mr. Pino did not attend. From the numbers
of responses that have been received by Commissioner Gordon,
apparently the taxicab industry is not very much interested in
this program.
Mayor Ferre: Who isn't interested?
Mr. Millo:--from the response that has been received
by Commissioner Gordon. She stated that there 90 some responses
out of 437 'certificates, that are held by the cab industry at
this time, --less than 25 % have responded to this, so I presume
that the cab industry is not very interested,---
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Mayor Ferre: It is not very interested in the jitney
or whatever it is called, service that we just outlined
previously.
Mrs. Gordon: May t inject into the record the facts, —
we said at the time that if we received the 15% response,
we would consider this a sufficient response to proceed,
and if we did not receive that much of a response, we would
turn to other avenues to find a service to supply to the
community.
Mr. Millo: Commissioner Gordon, on the 15%, is
your perception of interest and
Mrs. Gordon: No it was the perception of the number
of vehicles we felt we needed to begin a pilot service.
I also must correct your statement at this time, I received
no communication from Mr. Pino in November,December, January, --
I have a communication from Mr. Pino that was sent throu§h the
Manager's office on March 19th and it was dated November 28,
I have this copy here.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Nayor and members of the Commission,
there is an important point here that needs clarification
before we proceed further so that you and the record and
the public, and tenants here does not have a misunderstanding.
There were two subject matters here, one of trying to utilize
in a greater way the taxicab industry of which Mrs. Gordon
was appointed as Chairman and her commission was in that
area alone. There was a second matter of an application
that had made earlier, a distinct separate matter through
Mr. Pino to the Police Department and my office for the
subject matter that they are here before us. I was the one
who met with Mr. Pino, and I was the one that transmitted
only for informational purposes to Mrs. Gordon in relation
to what she was doing so she would be aware of what Mr. Pino's
request was. So they did not communicate with Commissioner Gordon
and her committee in relation to this matter.
Mr. Plummer: In all fairness to Mr. Pino, is that it is
also true, that he came here and was deferred waiting the hour
and.was urged to participate in the,
Mrs. Gordon: Certainly we would not leave him out when
he expressed an interest, we invited him as we 'did any other
person who was in the audience that day to leave their name
and they would be notified and they we all notified.
Rev. Gibson: But my understanding was, if I am not right,
I want my fellow commissioners to correct me, and the only way
I am going to accept that is that you bring me the minutes, ----
I remember specifically saying, and as I always do, I said,
'Mr. Pino, let's make sure`ou-attend all these meetings
and that you are properly notified so that if you have any
questions to raise, and objections, that you could be part
and parcel', ---now, Mr. Mayor, that tape you are hearing, --
evidently, this gentleman was not notified and was not told, --
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, he was present,- -- -
Rev. Gibson: Wait a minute, Mr. Andrews, you repeat your
statement.
Mr. Andrews; The statement I am repeating is that in the
early stages in March, that there were two separate subjects
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here, one of the taxicab which Mrs. Gordon. was involved in
on a committee level, and the other matter was Mr. Pino's
request for,the service he is describing to you today, may
be modified a little bit, and I was the one hearing that
matter. In order to keep Mrs. Gordon and her committee in-
formed, I passed on to her the information I was receiving
from Mr. Pino. It was after the March meeting, -----I think
the record will reflect this, and I am going by memory, ----
that your discussion comes up, Commission Gibson, that
they should attent the meetings with the Committee to make
sure that they are well informed, but it was still two
separate subjects, as it is being treated here, as separate
subjects.
Rev. Gibson: I hear what you are saying, but my under-
standing was, and still is, that Mr. Pino was before us on
a specific item,first. My understanding, subsequently was,
that when Mr. Pino came back, Mr. Pino was still interested
in the thing that Mr. Pino talked about the first time, isn't
that right?
Mr. Andrews: That is right.
Rev. Gibson: My statement was, let's make sure that
Mr. Pino is in full knowledge of everything that the Committee
was doing, and that all the information that on had, Mr. Pino
would have.
Mr. Andrews: That is something Mrs. Gordon can relate
to -you, as to what took place.
Mr. Plummer: I think if I un3 erstand what Father Gibson
is trying to do, he is trying to say who was first, was Mr.
Pino here first or was this package put together by the
taxi industry here first.
Mayor Ferre: Could I recommend that we get to the
substance of this, then we can come back and deal with
whether or not he was first or they were first, I don't
know if there is a conflict yet. He may be going to Hialeah,
or Miami Beach, I don't know what he has in mind, so let's
get on with this, and then we will come back to the.
Mr. Pino, I think it is important that, and I apologize to
you, but let's see if we can get down to the heart of this
matter ratter, than the historical process.
Mr. Pino: I want to explain to Mrs. Gordon, that she
said she did not receive any communication from me.
Mrs. Gordon: In November I never even knew that was
a Mr. Pino in the world.
Mr. Pino: Mrs. Gordon, let me say this in here. Some
the mail does not do a good job, but if you see that a letter
that was sent on Noveimber 28,----an article appeared in the
Miami News, you will see, it was sent to every member of this
Commission by me, by mail, ----I mailed over 300 of those letters,
and I am sorry if you didn't receive it, ----
Mrs. Gordon: I want to further state that nothing in that
latter suggested your wishing to start a mini -jitney service
in this City. It complained about some treatment you were receiving)
from the hands of the Public Service Commission, and the County
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and that is what this letter states, and I think the records
must reflect the facts.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, let the facts be reflected, now
continue.
Mr. Millo: The application before you Mr. Mayor, is
a proper application and an application which we are seeking
to have a certificate of public convenience issued for forty
buses, approximately, that will be utilized by Mr. Pino in
a two -fold manner. One will be in a bus pool that will be
operated by determining what are the needs of a particular
area by inquiring directly from the potential users and
determining what these uses, ---where would they like to
go, and by this means then design the particular route that
this vehicle would utilize. This vehicle will not be in
any way in conflict with the fixed routes by M.T.A. as they
will not make periodic stops.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have a map where you could go?
Mr. Millo: We don't have a map Mr. Mayor in the sense
that, as I stated to you, the routes will be determined by
the demand and not vice-versa.Wre are not trying to create
routes, and the routes create a demand, --we are going to
find where the demand stands and adjust the routes that
demand, which I think is the only proper way to do it.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor I have some problem with that
now. Mr. Dyer, you and Mr. Reynolds just said, what you did
about that route chart there. If what you are telling us
is what we must vote on, here is what I think you are going
to be asking me to do, you are going to ask me to vote on
the granting the permit, then tomorrow, it means that you
must go down, the M.T.A. line, that you will have the right
to do it based on what you just said.
Mr. Millo: No, that is not what I said.
Rev. Gibson: Read back the record, or at least I don't
hear well. I'd rather you have a chart up there with the
route, then I could say you came up here and said this street,
this street, etc.
Mr.Millo: Commissioner we don't have a map of routes. As
I stated to you, and I will re -state, these buses will not make
periodic stops through fixed routes, what these buses will do,
they pick up people near or at their home, depending on whether
they have the ability to move to a point where they will be
picked up. In other words these buses will actually go to the
home of a person that cannot for physical reasons or otherwise,
move to the point near their home where they can be picked up.
These routes will be pre -arranged by these people will be
picked up. No other people will be picked` up along the route.
Only the people, that in a way contracted to use the service,
will be picked up.
Mr. Plummer: Unless you want me to start diggin through
some correspondence sir, Mr. Pino then has changed his appli-
cation, because he proffered to me at one time, a :outing of
which he desired. Now, if that is changed. I would like to
know it, because he furnished to me, not only about three-
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thousand signatures on a petition, and that petition was based
on a ; =routing, ----I remember it came across 12th and plagl er •
I remember that. If this has changed, I think we should know
that.
Mr. Millo: I was going into that Commissioner.
Mr, Plummer: The way 1 understood, you said there was
no fixed routing, that each man would create its own, that
is what I understood.
Nr. Millo: The reason this has not been changed, the
meetings with the M.T.A. and we have had, -Mr. Pino has had
a number••._of meetings. We do not want in any way, to conflict
with M.T.A.'s operation, nor do we want to be competitive with
them:
Mr. Plummer: So what you are saying, this is a different
type of service, than what was originally proposed.
Mr. Millo:Absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Pino: Honorable Mayor and Commissioners,\I am here
today as the President of Miami Mini-Aliados to speak to you
on our application for certificate of public convenience
submitted on February 14,1974 to be considered for approval.
Our original application covered four basic types of trans-
portation services to be provided by our company,---Dial-a-ride,
Fixed Route, bus pool and charter service! We eliminated our
dial -a -ride service from the plan when we realized a possible
competition conflict with the taxicab industry. Our object is
not to compete with the taxicab or any other major transpor-
tation entity in the City, but to provide a badly needed service
to .:our community. Miami Mini Aliados has met several times
with Dr. John Dyer, Dade County Traffic Coordinator, and members
of his staff as well as M.T.A. authorities to discuss our company's
6 routes and their effects on the over-all county transit system.
A possible working agreement with M.T.A. has been explored
after the disability, effectiveness and possible competition
that our service might create. Since it is not our desire to
engage in the performance of any service, that will reduce
fair revenues of M.T.A. as a result of this meeting, we: -are
asking that our fixed routes requested on our application be
deleted. This leaves for your consideration the granting of
a certificate of public convenience to Miami Mini Aliados to
provide bus -pool service and charter services within the greater
Miami area. During the last decade the City of Miami has existed
from an economic dependency on tourism, to a rapidly growing
industrial center. Today, the City of Miami and this area is
3rd largest garment manufacturer center in the U.S. Other in-
dustries include electronic construction materials, manufacture
of leather goods, and a great number of large corporations
doing business with S. America, have made the City of Miami
their home base of operations in recent years. This fast in-
dustrial growth has 'made acee'ssibility to employment,educational,
medical, governmental and commercial, centers through public
transportation a must. Miami Mini Aliados proposes to a
mini bus system to gain riders for mass transit, improve
mobility for those who cannot drive, reduce traffic congestion,
and decrease air pollution, a most critical, environmental con-
si.deration in our community. High cost of living, and daily demands
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for higher salaries, have created unbearable burdens on
sole ownership. We believe that if the owner -operator and
employee belongs to corporate organization, a more equitable
distribution of profits would be achieved, thus creating a
better incentive for work .
We are very much aware that in a project dealing with
the community at large, their involvement as consumers is
imperative. To this effect, Miami Mini Aliados will form an
Advisory Committee composed of members of the community at
large, as well as, representatives from active community
organizations. The Advisory Committee will play a key role
in the selection of owner operators, recommendation of fares
as well as regulations of owner operators.
Miami Mini Aliados is a private minority enterprise
with a cooperative system of ownership. Each owner operator
will be able to eran up to $300.00 per week when driving his
own mini bus.
Interested participants will submit an application which
will be closely scrutinized by the Advisory, Committee and the
Company. Upon his acceptance into the "cooperative", the
following basic terms will govern: OWNER OPERATOR:
1. Will be responsible for down payment on equipment
(mini bus) purchase.
2. Will purchase gasoline and maintenance services
from Miami Mini Aliados.
3. Will garage equipment at company facilities.
4. Will assume license plate cost.
5. Will be recipients of 75% of the total fare revenue
6. Will be closely scrutinized in his service by the
advisory committee and the company.
COMPANY - MIAMI MINI ALIADOS
1. Will facilitate financing of equipment to owner
operators.
2. Will provide gasoline and maintenance service at
wholesale prices.
3. Will provide equipment and liability insurance.
4. Will provide health services.
5. Will provide spare equipment when regular equipment
becomes inoperative.
6. Will be the recipient of 25% of the total fare revenue.
7. Will be responsible for promotion of the company.
8. Will provide all supportive administrative staff.
9. Will be enforece of strict safety regulations on all
equipment.
10. Will pay the fare revenue or road tax (To theCity of
Miami.)
BUS POOLS -CHARTER SERVICES:
I have given you an overall description of our
company. Allow me, if you will, to priefly describe for you our
proposed bus pool and charter service.
Miami Mini Aliados, through a zip code mailing, will identify
those individuals who need and desire our transportation in the
Greater Miami Area. The purpose of our bus pool services is to
provide transportation to and from work in an organized fashion
based upon the response from our mailing. Miami Mini Aliados
will also contract employers who have demonstrated an interest
in bus pool services to be provided for their employees. Another
recruitment method will be to directly promote our services with
employees in areas of industrial concentration.
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Our charter service will supplement the 'bus pools'
in the following manner. During the time when the vehicles are
idle, due to passengers being at work: low cost transportation
on a sub -contract basis, would be provided for senior citizens'
programs, educational institutions dealing with training. and
any other interested organizations.
We believe that the transportation service we propose
will be mostly utilized by the low and middle income head of
household trying to support a family in a difficulteeoriomic'
period. We feel our service will make jobs accessible to this
population whom in many instances has been left out of the
mainstream of our society, reminding you that our license would
provide an immediate solution to these problems.
In this light, we respectfully request from the Honorable
Mayor and Commissioner, a favorable decision on our application
Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: How much longer will you be in your pre-
sentation?
Mr. Pino: I have 4 speakers, then after that,
Mayor Ferre: Do you have to leave Mr. Reynolds, you
can wait?
Mr. Andrews: fir. Mayor, may I interrupt you please,
becauee I want you to be aware of certain facts before you
go any further, and then make a decision whether you want him
to continue or not. This is such a unique application and Mr.
Lloyd'ean speak to this, that when the application is examined
in light of the ordinances, that you have available to you,
in order to permit some one operate within the City of Miami,
our ordinances as they exist, do not cover specifically this
kind of service. That is one thing, the second thing that the
City Commission, I think has to make a decision on before you
go too far, is, is it going to be the policy of this Commission
to entertain this kind of application, which orders a form of
bus transportation but is a bus pool type of operation as they
are describing it, then after you have made that decision that
you are going to entertain such an application, we probably,
---you would probably have to instruct Mr. Lloyd to draft an
ordinance that would permit this kind of application to be
made so it could be_properly heard and the next step would
be to continue the hearings so you can gather the information
to make a policy decision as to whether you would then permit
such an operation under a new ordinance that would have to be
constructed and whether, in fact, the Commission wants to
become involved in further licensing an operation which lies
somewhere between that which we have transfered to the Metro
Transit Authority and is a full bus operation to something
that is slightly less than a full bus operation in the bus
pool arrangement that they are describing to you.
Mr. Millo: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I believe the present
ordinance covers this type of service, and this is a bus
service, and it is a fixed route bus service. The only difference
is, this bus pool will pre -determine who the riders are to be,
rather than travel this route regardless of whether or not it
will be utilized.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews I recognize the point you have
made and 1 recognize the point that Mr. Lloyd has not.made,
but I assume it is the same legal background on the discrepancies.
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I recommend that since we have gone this far, that we permit
at least the testimony on the record, and go through this so
that you will better understand what the intentions are, then
see how we can proceed from there, because if the will of the
Commission is to render this kind of service, then what we have
to do is, let's find a way,legal way, of doing this. And if the
will of the Commission is that it is against the interest of MTA,
it is against the taxicab industry, against the interest of the
drivers, --I see Claude Roth is standing here, which means obviously
he representing the Union for the drivers, he has a point to make,
and I see Mr. Blanco representing the taxicab union, i am sure
he is going to want to speak, let's let people speak on this.
Mr. Millo: Mr. Mayor the application originally containing
the toutes, we have not withdrawn the application, we merely
ask that these consideration be deferred until the negotiations
with the MTA are concluded, and at that time we will be able to
report to. the Commission whether or not we wish to continue,
and I am sure the MTA will be ina better position to recommend
either as to fixed routes is concerned. I would also appreciate
the commission considering that this is entirely a private pilot
enterprise service that we provided the community. In this
country, unfortunately. private enterprise has not been interested
in the quite a long time, at least two decades, in
going into the private operation of public transportation. Un-
fortunately this has not been so. I think this is a great
opportunity for this Commission to engage the talents and
capital of private industry into this area. I would also like
to point out that this is a public service that will not be
a revenue consumer, but a revenue producer, and will provide
jobs for a number, of people in the community.
Mrs. Gordon; May I ask a couple of questions please
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Let me interrupt you in asking you if you
feel that your questions need to be asked now, or could
you hold them off, ----
Mrs. Gordon: It is pertinent to the moment, but point
was made of revenue producing and it is something that bothers
me, that I would like to have answered, and I have an open
mind, believe me. I wantto know the answers. What if your
production doesn't produce?
Mr. Pino: Mrs. Gordon, remember, we are private enterprise,
and when you open a market on the corner, you don't know if
your are going to succeed or not. We will take the risk and
loss and the gain from our private enterprise.
Mayor Ferre: If they don't produce they go out of business.
Mrs. Gordon: That is what I am worried about.
Mr. Pino: I think we should be worried about it, it is
our money.
Mrs. Gordon: Also in your proposal, you had two separate
items, and I want an answer, you said the mini bus will never
carry less than 15 passengers. Does this mean you have to have
•a full load all the time.
Mr. Pine; No, seating capacity, I am talking about.
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Mrs. Gordon: Then yott said a fee of 350 in this paper,
a d 500 in this paper, for the same thing. I guess you had
not made your mind up then.
Mr. Pino: 11o,no,----if you come to the document i gave
you, there is a, ----one of them, is a letter from
it is in that paper, the editorial of the Miami. Herald this
morning, these people here have 1200 workers, and some
of these cases, they cannot go to work because they dont have
transportation to go to work.
Mrs. Gordon: In the City of Miami. only?
• Mr. Pino: Then, next page you have some type of coupon
that was already distributed to see what was going on in this
factory and you find out, they say, $1.00 a day round trip if
live east of the Palmetto expressway, and $1.20 a day if you
live west of the Palmetto. Regarding, as far as the
the City of Miami has power to license this operation, within
the City limits and withth the suburban area of the City of
Miami, which is 5 air miles from theCity Limits. What I would
like to do, I have about 15 more minutes, ---not for me to
talk, 1 would like to call Nr.Alonzo Menendez to speak on
behalf of our application, in the name of the Latin Chamber
of Commerce.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Pino, how many speakers do you have?
Mr. Pino: Four, ---
Mayor Ferre: I'll give them each three minutes, try to
make it less than that.
Mrs. Gordon: Mayor, how can anything we license operate
in Hialeah? This Colbrook Mills is in Hialeah. How can we
do that?
Mayor Ferre: I'lrs. Gordon, you have asked your question,
and I think we have to give these people a chance to make
their presentation, i will not accept anymore questions from
the Commission, until the presentation is finished. Then you
can get into all the questions you want, and I am going recognize
after these four speakers Mr. Reynolds, then I am going to
recognize Dr. Dyer then the Industry, which includes the cab
industry, the Union, the taxi union, and anybody else who
wants to speak.
Mr. Reynolds 4 Mr. Mayor, may I suggest that Mr. Pino has
in effect withdrawn his application for a fixed service. The
application he says he has, I don't believe truly exists. At
least I have never seen it, and if it does exist, it is so vague
it defies definition.
Mayor Ferre: The point, Mr. Reynolds is this, that we
have been playing with this now, and talking about it for
many months. We have come this far, this is a public hearing,
it is 5:30, if we give this another half hour, I think it will
start to be clarified if we give it a chance. Then we have to
deliberate at this Commission level, as to whether or not we
want to perste it or not. So let it go its natural course.
Ni. Pino: Mr. Alonzo Menendez, from the Latin Chamber of
Commerce.
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Mr. Alonzo Menendez: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners,
my name is Alonzo Menendez, I reside at 4110 W. 6th Court
in Hialeah. I have the honor today to represent the Latin
Chamber of Commerce, speak in behalf of the application pre-
sented by Mr. Henry Pino. We feel that there is a need for
this type of service, and you have today an opportunity to
provide for fulfillment. We hope that your deliberations
will conclude in a possitive vote on this application, in
the assurance that such a vote would be a great benefit to
the community as a whole, in spite of the arguments to the
contrary, of special interest groups, and empire -building
bureaucracies. Gentlemen, we have complete confidence in
the fairness of your judgement and thank you for the oppor-
tunity to express our opiniam.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you sir.
Mr. T. Willard Fair: My name is T.Willard Fair, my
address is 7790 N.W. 7th Avenue. It is pleasant for me to
have the opportunity to speak on the first venture, that
has occured in this community, ---it addresses itself to the
problems of poor people, as they try to survive in this
moment of inflationary crisis. Let me say to you that the
mini bus concept, even though it is confusing here today,
has potential for the people that we serve in our community.
I have heard different agruments here this evening. I have
heard talk of conflict and competition with MTA. we have
dealt with him. I think Mr. Reynolds will agree, that it
was our suggestion that they began to run out of Liberty
City straight to Miami Beach, instead of taking No. 4 and
No. 21 and transferring to 36th Street and cutting off an
hour for those residents. I have heard the argument of the
taxicab industry we have related to them too, back in 1965
we tried to use that industry to transfer poor kids to a
head start program at Temple Israel and it worked for a while,
but we learned that taxicab drivers make their money not on
trips but on tips, and poor folks, need the transportation,
respect and honor the transportation, but have little money
to offer for the tips. It seems to me the mini bus concept
if fully developed, allows for the first time to develop
minority entrepreneurship. It allows us to begin to also
create sore jobs in an area which unemployment is 6.1%. It
allows us also to begin to understand the need to let poor
people maintain some degree of self -dignity, and not have
to travel in groups of five in order to get from one point
to another. We believe it has merit and has potential, and
can serve the masses of poor people in this community. It
is not competitive, it is supplementary, it is complimentary.
We need all that we can get. The poor people need all they
can get, cheap as they can get it.
. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: I hope T. Willard Fair doesn't run for
Mayor in the near future.
Mr. Rafael Villaverde: My name is Rafael Villaverde
and I reside at 665 S.W. 19th Road. Again I am here backing
up a system in order to provide more services to the needy
people in my community, a community that is badly in need
of transportation. I myself through my agency, run a small
transportation system by which we pick up 450 senior citizens
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a day, but this is not enough, and I have heard here the
word of competition, or points of conflict, again we are
talking about poor people. The services are there to be
rendered. The need exists, and what are we going to do
with the working mother, that cannot attend the factory
because she has to spend more money in transportation than
maybe the money she will earn after deductions of day care
and things like that she has to pay. We are talking about
the necessity of poor peoplel We are not talking about
making money, we are talking about fixing the needs of
our people in our community. We need those services. If
the transit authorities making studies, ---transportation
systems making studies, ---that is beautiful, but we need
the services now. Studies are being made, --I just looked
at the planning that the Sgt. made here, and I saw that in
our area,Little Havana, when we are talking about food stamps,
they took into consideration the office that is in 27th Avenue
and 1st Street in the N.w. but that is to serve the people in
the N.W.---we also will need transportation, but the zip code
33135 which is mostly Little Havana, has to go to the food stamp
office that is located in 8th Street and 58th Avenue, no services
considered to be rendered at that area. My concern is, do we
need the service, the answer is 'yes',,can %Se wait for the
services, my answer is 'no', so I take you time, Honorable
Mayor and Commissioners to request that you look favorably
to the proposal being presented by the Mini-Aliados.
Mrs. Gordon: Rafael, didn't you volunteer to permit this
pilot program to utilize your parking area and your shelter
at the take -off point, so the seniors would have the use of
cabs. It is a fact.
Mr. Keith Leslie: Honorable
you know the American Automobile
membership organization, made up
with the utilization of their own
Mayor and Commissioners, as
Association is primarily a
of people who are concerned
automobile. However I would
like to emphasize to you that AAA favors transportation systems
that make the maximum use of our highways. We have endorsed for
example the M.T.A. experimental program with the bus lanes on
I-95 and the Blue Streak on S. Dixie'. We believe the city would
be well advised to authorize a program which would do these two
things. One acts as a feeder system for the Metro system, and
two provide service for citizens who do not how have service
and would not be able to receive it in the forseeable future.
We believe that a pilot program, not involving taxpayer funds
will definitely be beneficial to the community.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Pino: At this time, I will ask two things. First of
all I will answer any question anybody has in their mind,and
second I will ask the Honorable Mayor and Commissioners that
when everyone of the people that are going to oppose to my
application come in front to -speak, or we will be allowed to
ask questions of them, as we want to bring the thing from
this.
Mayor Ferre: No, here is the way we are going to play.
Have you got a piece of paper, and a pencil, and you write
down the questions, and after Mr. Reynolds, and everybody
else makes their statements, then I will permit questions
from you to them, and them to you, and from us to both of
you. Now, Mr. Reynolds, I'll recognize you at this time.
Mr. teynolds: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, at this
time I want to go on record as protesting this entire application
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as being an application to provide a service which is now
being provided by the Metropolitan Transit Authority and if
such a service were granted it would detrimental to the entire
community. There is nothing we have heard being offered that
is now available to the citizens of this area, either from the
Metropolitan Transit Authority or the taxicab industry or from
the sightseeing services that have buses available for charter
in this area. He offers nothing new, it is a self-serving
application that does not provide anything added service to
the community, and I further submit for your consideration
that this is a hearing to determine public convenience and
necessity and to this point we have not had one bit of
testimony indicating that there is a need for this type
of service, to the contrary, what we have heard is you
grant me this blank check and I'll go out and determine
if such a market exists. That is what in effect Mr. Pino
has said.
Mr. Plummer: Can I ask a question of Mr. Reynolds at
this time. You prefer me to wait?
Mayor Ferre: Please, because I asked Rose to wait, and
I think it is fair for everybody to wait, write down your
questions, then I'll recognize each Commissioner to ask their
specific questions.
Dr. Dyer: The proposal has some merit Mr. Mayor and
members of the Commission. I think however, one of the
major problems is that I doubt that either this commission
or -the Metropolitan Dade County Commission has jurisdiction
here. This looks to me like a public servuce commission question
because it basically appears to be for -hire vehicles that are
neither random nor casual nor controlled by the rider, but
by another means. That would seem to follow under the juris-
diction of the Public Service Commission, especially since
it involves 15 or more passengers. In terms of the proposal,
it comes down to being basically what we would call a dial -a -bus
dial -a -ride type of system. That is specifically what I was
talking about that the County has in mind, perhaps county-
wide, or perhaps on a lesser basis. We do think there are
possibilities at a near point in time of working in a private
operation with a public system in combination and in tandem.
At this point I'd like to and ask for yes or no
from my view, for the simple reason we don't know about the
question of jurisdiction.
Mr. Claude Rolfe: I was listening to Mr. Pino, we have
a problem something like he is trying to create now, on the
D line on the bus, on the Beach. Those buses run along there
and pick the cream off the crop, when business gets slack,
you don't see them. You understand, we have to continue to
operate. He is planning on doing the same thing, pick the
cream off the crop, we still have to operate out there. If
he don't make money, then he is gone. We are still out there,
and what he is doing now is fixing to put some of my people
out of work. and no way in the world can the Union sit
there and stand for it, whatever means it takes necessary
for us to put a stop to it, we are willing to go that route.
What they are doing is interferring with the peop:.e we already
have.
Mr. Zilber: Mr. Mayor Commissioners, Dr. Dyer brought
up a point that this may be a public service commission problem,
If it is not, from what we understand Mr. Pino is looking for
is a 20 passenger taxicab, The City of Miami has licensed 434
and understand by population code can't issue any more, but
he wants to go door-to-door, which is what a taxicab service
is now. The dial -a -bus system as Dr. Dyer described has only
survived where government has run it throughout the
country. Dial -a -bus systems have been started throughout this
country and they have all gone bankrupt. It has to be sponsored
by and subsidized by some government agency. It is the only
way they can operate. In the proposal that I gave you before,
it explains that it has to be subsidized by government, and I
think that is Metropolitan Dade County's obligation to the
people, not taxicabs or private industries.
Mr. Les Eisenberg: My name is Les Eisenberg, 3775 N.W.
36th Street. I represent Big Ten Taxi Corporation. We probably
are the biggest single owner of City of Miami Taxicabs. I am
not going to comment as to whether we should have or not have
mini buses, but I will say that any ps *chiatrist, any sophisticated
shrewd salesman will tell you that where there is a conflict,
between will and imagination, and I am talking about your will,
my will, their will, and imagination, imagination will always
win out. Now, Mr. Pino has presented a picture. In fact I even
had sometimes, sort of a beautiful motion picture that he pre-
sented. He has appealed to our imagination. I think each and
every one of you should have Rolls Royces, Silver Clouds,
or Mercedes Benz 450 S L's, I really do. In fact a Mercedes
Benz man was in my office last week and he tried to sell me
a fleet of diesel cars, and you want to know something, he
gave me good facts and good figures, but it is not practical
for me to have diesel cars, and it probably is not practical
for each and every one of you to have Rolls Royces. It may not
be economically feasible. I'll tell you, there is one thing
I've heard here all afternoon that makes sense, and that came
from a gentleman I don't always agree with, and that's Dr. Dyer.
He said one word, one word, that makes a lot of sense here. He
said need, the word is need. In two months we will know a little
more about the needs, maybe a lot more. Can't we hold this in
abeyance? Even the jitney type taxi service, ---it would take
two weeks to get this into service, then we would have six
more weeks to play with this, and would cost the City of Miami
a little bit of money. I think we've got to wait. We spent a
lot of money for Dr. Dyer and his crew to look into this thing
and they are spending a lot of money on tests. Let's wait and
let's find out. We will know a lot more in two months.
Thank you.
Mr. Clifford Rusick: Members of the Commission, ladies
and gentlemen of the audience, it seems like there is a lot
back and forth, but my purpose today, is , I am not interested
in this conflict. The gentleman talked about imagination, ----
you don't need imagination. Rev. Gibson will tell you about
a Brownsville Jitney that has-been in existence for 10 or 11
years now. Isn't that right Reverend? I asked the cab drivers,
cafe society, does this compete with you? He said no. Now who
is in a better position to tell than the Brownsville Jitney
or the cafe society. They get along very well, do they not
Reverend? The Reverend knows better about the situation. Now
they've had it. Now, Nlr. Rolfe here, I like him, he is a fine
mn, but I asked him, Mr. Rolfe, how about my wife on 37th
Avenue, how about the one on 36th Street, how about those
people.Mr. Rolfe said I am going to try that route some day.
Ladies and gentlemen, they are behind times. We need this today,
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The gentlemen from the Jewish organization has called me outside
and he said it is right. The older people that are handicapped►
they are the people that are suffering. The cab drivers, they
will get the people with the money. Again 1 suggest to you
gentlemen of the Commission, the wealthy and the healthy do
very well but the poor people, the older people and the handi-
capped do not. So please take that into consideration.
Mr. Phil Schiff: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission.
I am Phil Schiff, I represent the Greyhound Corporation,
American Sightseeing Tours, Red Top Sedan Service, I speak
for Greylines, Al - Bus Lines, these are the people engaged
in the sightseeing business. Greylines, A-1, American Sightseeing
furnish charter service all over this town. There is no need
for any other charter service. A bus pool service is something
that is unknown to transportation law.
Mayor Ferre: Bus pool?
Mr. Phil Schiff: ----bus pool service, is unknown to
transportation law and I claim to be an expert in transportation
law. There is no way in the world that this Commission or your
fine law Department can write an ordinance which would allow
service of that type at this level of government. As gentlemen
who just spoke pointed out, or just before the gentleman who
just spoke, pointed out this is nothing more or less,
bus pool service --than a taxicab service, and the City of
Miami nor any other city in this county that I know of,
neither this city or any other city can issue any more
certificates of public convenience and necessity for any
more taxicabs because we have a state law that applies in
the city of Miami, that limits the number of cabs, we are
already over the maximum number you are allowed to have under
the statute.
Mr. Pino's place to get any authority, if he is to get
any, would be with the public service commission. I agree with
whoever said that, but I don't think that he can go there
because, I know Mr. Pino well, Nor. Pino is an ambitious, intelli-
gent, resourceful aggressive', person, but he does not play according
to the rules. I have had Mr. Pino before the public service com-
mission, I have had Mr. Pino in the Circuit Court of this county
where he and one of his companies were enjoined from operating
because they did not play according to the rules. We have had
Mr. Pino at the interstate Commerce level where he did not
get the opportunity to continue to operate after he had gotten
a temporary certificate, that was revoked because he does not
play according to the rules, and in considering, if you could
consider his application which has been withdrawn, you have to
consider the type of person
his new application or vice versa, and into which the new appli-
cation has announced here today would fit because such an ord-
inance would not be legal and by the way, I practice transpor-
tation law for many years, --eta I know of no community in this
country that has an ordinance, that is a community of any sub-
stance, I am not familiar with all the little wide places in the
road, which has an ordinance which would allow the type of
service that today we have heard requested.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Villaverde, Mrs. Gordon asked you a
question, it is your turn to answer.
Mrs. Gordon: You said you needed help with the transpor-
tation of senior citizens, right? And your area where your
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activity center is located is the heart of Little Havana,
right? It was my understanding from our taxicab bureau that
you had agreed or your activity center had agreed to let us
pick up people and deliver them to you, there at that point.
Did anyone from the taxi bureau speak to you?
Mr. Villaverde: No one has.
Mrs. Gordon: Did anyone speak to, ---do you know if
anyone in your activity center, who is in charge when you
are not there was spoken to?
Mr. Villaverde: No.
Airs. Gordon: Would you have any objection to people
being dropped off and picked up there?
Mr. Villaverde: Let me clarify one thing. The first
question you asked was about parking. I cannot let anybody
park there.
Mrs. Gordon: No not parking. There was no need for
parking. it is pick-up and delivery service.
Mr. Villaverde: I have no authority what happens in
the streets. I have authority to what happens within my
building. I cannot grant permission to use the public streets.
Mrs. Gordon: The point that was mentioned at the meeting
that I heard from our bureau, because they are checking facts.
What if it rains? and the activity center is there, and I was
told that the people could take shelter if it was raining,in
the activity center. It's not true?
Mr. Villaverde: If anybody comes in and it is raining
we would have to let them in, but I have a conflict of interest
right there. According to federal regulations that rule my program
we cannot serve people under 60 years of age.
Mrs. Gordon: Serve? You are not going to serve them.
Mr. Villaverde: Anybody we provide services to.
Mrs. Gordon: You are not going to serve them in any way
shape or form.
Mr. Villaverde: This is the situation, if a person is
getting wet, sure they could come in.
Mrs. Gordon: That is the point.
Mr. Villaverde:But I want to clarify it again, no one
has contacted me.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't know who they spoke to, because i
did not do the contacting, but the point was that we recognize
the need for:,a stop at that point, because of the numbers of
people that have to go to your place and leave your place. We
want to help. Believe me, everything we are doing is to help,
and anybody that thinks we are doing anything for any other
reason has the wrong conception, totally. -
Mr. Villaverde; The question involved is not helping,
if I gave authorization to something that I have not.
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Mrs. Gordon: The point was, if it rains, you will let
them stand under the shelter.
Mr. Pino: Could 1 ask Mr. Villaverde a question?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, if you ask it quickly and he answers
it quickly.
Mr. Pino: Mr. Villaverde do you need frequent services
for groups of senior citizens.
Mr. Villaverde: Yes.
Mr. Pino: Do you have that need?
Mr. Villaverde: Of course. As a matter of fact, today
is one of the days I have to shuttle 500 senior citizens at
once and I did not have facilities.
Mayor Ferre: Questions from Commissioner Plummer, to
Mr. Reynolds.
Mr. Plummer: Let me re -address it to Mr. Rolfe. Mr. Rolfe,
you have made quite clear sir, that you are in opposition to
the mini bus, are you also in opposition to the dial -a -ride
or dial -a -cab concept that has been put out by the committee,
are you for or against that.
Mr. Rolfe: You mean the map you had up there just now?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, the map that is put out by the committee.
Mr. Rolfe: We have no problem with that, but I am just
concerned about, that this one get a mini -bus service another
get a mini -bus service, then you have them all over town, then
you are wiping the mass transit out -period! That is what I am
concerned about, new business coming in, want to use what you
already have.
Mr.Plummer: Mr. Reynolds, Dr. Dyer made mention that
there bras possible conflicts and the point that stuck in my
mind, that on the proposal of the taxi, or the dial -a
Plan A, that there was possibly conflicts with already existing
MTA routes and what they are proposing to do for a dollar and
a dime can be done with 300 and transfer. Could you speak more
specific to that?
Mr. Reynolds: What Dr. Dyer was saying, yes there is
a competitive coverage. There is some conflict, but my feeling
was that the price obviated the conflict, you see. So they are
complimentary. Someone that is going to ride a service for 304
won't ride it for a dollar..._
Mr. Plummer: What you are saying, they are not in competition
because yours is a lot cheaper.
Mr. Reynolds: Because of economics, that is right.
Mr. Plummer: So we come to the question of need.
Mayor Ferre: That is eventually going to end up.
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Mr.Plummer: Let me get the record very clear, and get
my mind very clear. What you are saying is, that in the route
proposed on that map of Plan A, today MTA is giving the same
service.
Mr. Reynolds:Let me say this, and perhaps that will make
it clear. The MTA maintains a route within a quarter mile walking
distance of every point within the City of Miami. The routes are
one half mile apart, quarter mile walking distance, of not matter
What route you put on an arterial street, will fall along and
parallel an MTA route. We provide a complete coverage.
Mrs. Gordon: There is a very important point though,
that Mr. Reynolds we've talked about before. It wasn't
mentioned now. Direct routes are the things that are lacking
in some cases where someone needs to go, and that is why we
think of the 12th Avenue, 8th Street location to the Civic
Center, to the garment district, perhaps for•;a job, or whatever
and back, as being a direct route. It is not downtown, transferring
and coming back into that area.
Mr. Reynolds: I understand what you are saying, what you
are saying, and which is what we do, we seek out those routes
that can provide a one -bus service. We find main corridors
of travel. We are always seeking this out, if this exists
we respond to it, but there is no way that a mass transit
system can provide door-to-door service for every trip. There
is no way.
Mrs. Gordon: That is why you are not in conflict with
the idea of this pilot styled taxi program because it was
going to provide the direct route.
Mr. Plummer: This system does not provide door-to-door
am I correct. There was 11 or 12 stops on this systems
Mr. Plummer: It collects at selected points and moves
them from one point to another.
Mrs. Gordon: The key points are the places where generally
people who use this, --would use this --would want to stop, food
stamps or this and that. They are key points. I would say that
these maps were made for us by MTA so they designed it according
to where they are not particularly serving, and where they don't
yet feel a regular route should be put on.
Mr. Reynolds: This data was based on old information.
What Dr. Dyer was telling you was that new information is
coming out now which will be far more useful than the information
we have.
Mrs. Gordon: What harm would it be to you, to Dr. Dyer,
to the community, if in fact; this taxicab pilot was in effect
for three months, wouldn't that give you a. living test, rather
than just a written test of need?
Mr. Reynolds: If you recollect I offered no objection. I
said it could fall in the category of a complimentary service.
Mrs. Gordon; Thank you so much.
Mr, Pino: I would like to ask a question of Mr. Reynolds .
Mr. Reynolds you said you represent the taxpayers bus system.
A
Correct?
Mr. Reynolds: Yes, you know who I represent.
Mr. Pino: I would like an answer just for courtesy.
Mayor Ferre: You just ask the questions of the Chair
and I will address them to
Mr. Pino: As a representative of the taxpayers bus
line, I want him to tell me exactly how many taxpayers,or
the owners of this bus service, to oppose to our application.
Mayor Ferre: I don't see the purpose of that question.
Mr. Pino: I have a survey, remember.
Mayor Ferre: You are asking how many taxpayers have
told Mr. Reynolds to oppose this, and the answer is, obviously
he hasn't tested the taxpayers to see, ---you know, ----
Mr. Reynolds: The MTA, Board, has a stewardship exercised
over the operation of the Metropolitan transit system. To
that extent we represent the taxpayers.
Mr. Pino: Correct.I.have asked 5;590 tax payers who own
the bus line. Out of that, 5,557 said that the service that
their bus line is giving is no good, and on the other hand,
5,556 said that we should be granted the license.
Mayor Ferre: This is not a court of law. Any other questions.
Mr. Blanco: My name is Blanco, I represent the
taxi drivers union, Transportation Local 1901. First of all
the gentleman said that this type of service, limousine; service,
was going to be a dial by phone, and according with the route
we saw there, it is not. The second point he said they don't
i interfere with the buses. If you people want to bring back those
blue prints, and I believe that it is only one without of the
route of the buses, MTA, it is the one on 29th Court and loth
Street. But everyone of the other ones is right on the path
of the buses.
Mr. Reynolds: I agree with you, I just made that statement.
Mr. Blanco: No, you just said they don't interfere with
you.
Mr. Reynolds: That isn't what I said. You misunderstood
what I said. I'll repeat it if you wish. I said very clearly
that there is nowhere in the City of Miami that you could put
a route that it wouldn't somewhere parallel a MTA route, but
I said it's a complementary service, in that, our pricing structures
are different. There is no price competition, between the two
plans. We charge 300 for a bus ride. This may be 70, 80 or 90
cents, whatever it might be, so the choice being made by the
rider, is made on the basis of a convenience that we can't offer
because'we stop at every bus stop along that route, where this
would quickly take them from point A to B.
Mr. Blanco; So based on the price, you are not opposed
to that system.
Mr. Reynolds: Because of the price.
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Mr. Blanco: You are opposed to the price, or to the
system or the mini bus on what reason? Do you know the price?
Mr. Reynolds: The mini bus as a fixed carrier on a
regular route stopping at every bus stop is in direct competition.
Mt. Blanco: Do you know the price?
Mr. Reynolds: It does not make any difference.
Mayor Ferre: I think we are going to start winding up
the public portion of this hearing.
Mr. Arthur Rosenberg: My name is Arthur Rosenberg, 1270
Stillwater Drive, Miami Beach, I am president of the Aircraft
Taxi -Company. I speak not as a taxi cab operator but as a tax-
payer. Mr. Reynolds is the MTA, subsidized by the public. There-
fore, I feel as a taxpayer in order to reduce our tax respon-
sibility, that it behooves the MTA to exhaust every possible
avenue of revenue seeking before it allows competition of any
type to encroach upon its roots. Mr. Reynolds, do you feel, that
whether it be the taxicab or the mini buses, would encroach
upon the revenues which ordinarily should find itself in the
coffers of the MTA?
Air. Reynolds: Of course, I would oppose anything that
threatens the health of the main system, which is the MTA.
Mr. Rosenberg: To summarize in that Mr. Reynolds, do
you not think, or do you think that presently you are exhausting
every conceivable means to derive maximum revenue for MTA.
Mr. Reynolds: We think we are doing the best we can to
provide the broadest coverage within our resources, yes.
Mr. Rosenberg: ----at the moment?
Mr. Reynolds.: ---at the moment.
Mr.Rosenberg: But you feel you can do better.
Mr. Reynolds: You can always do better.
Mr. Rosenberg: ----predicated on the results of the survey
which is forthcoming?
Mr. Reynolds: That is correct.
Mr. Rosenberg: Thank you very much.
Irtr. Zilber : This question is to the MTA and the Commission.
I keep hearing of a 90 day test pilot program, possibly you are
_going to ask our industryto_go into. Speaking for the industry,
at the end of 90 days if Tthis is a success, is it going to be
taken away from us, because it is then a success 2 Is it;going to
be given to MTA2 I don't want to train our employees overthe
season for, ---then in 90 days, say well it is great, Ir1TA should
take it over. It is a very important point.
rlr . Plummer;
think, ---
He asked the question of MTA and I
Mayor Ferre: MTA won't leave jurisdiction over that.
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£'r Rolfe: The first mini bus will be delivered sometime
in d'anuary or February of next year. They are scheduled to go
in service on Flagler Street, between the Boulevard and the
t-95 Interchange. We don't have. ------we are thinking in terms
of broadening\mini bus service based on the findings of the
studies that have just been made. I couldn't begin to tell you
where this would be in detail at this point. The only thing I
Mad for sure is that the mini bus service on Flagler Street
will go into operation as soon as the equipment is delivered,
probably February.
Rev. Gibson: Then if I read you right, then you would be
wasting your time and money, if what I hear him say, is what. ---
firs. Gordon: The point is when, Father.
Rev. Gibson: But Rgse, no way in the world , I am going
to explore the possibility of organizing a church in Coconut
Grove, then after I get it, find out how feasible it is, --
the Bishop calls another man. Let me tell you something, I
don't know what you arethinking,----no way in the world, I
spend my money that way.
Mr. Reynolds: Father Gibson, please be clear on one thing,
the MTA has not taken a position of advocacy at all on this
proposal. We merely responded. We have been asked, will it do
this, or that, we have tried to give honest answers, but we don't
advocate it.
Mr. Plummer: But you don't oppose it either?
Mr. Reynolds: We can't oppose it unless we can show
where it really hurts the system.
Rev. Gibson: Let me end with this. I could see these
men right now, taking this as a pilot project. Assume it works
out well and it comes out grand. I don't know what you would
do, but I know what I would do, if I were with MTA. I would
find a way conveniently to show that it hurts the system and
then no way in the world I could disprove it.
Mr. Reynolds: I would hope I am more straightforward than
that.
Rev. Gibson: I sit up here, and I listen and watch. I
heard a man come here, pardon this, I heard a man come here
not long ago who said, that what he didn't want us to take
certain affirmative action, and shortly after he walked up ,
while standing here, he told us he hadn't had a chance to talk
with his lawyer. The Commission knows who I am talking about.
You know one thing, that man walked out of here and went to
the federal court and entered a suit against the City. No way
in the world you can't tell me he didn't have some idea. All
T am saying Mr. Reynolds,-i am not saying that is what you
are going to do Mr. Reynolds, but I learned beware of the
Athenians bearing wreaths, to be forewarned is to be forearmed.
Unidentified speaker: Air. Reynolds does the MTA at this
time provide any type of service as described as propose to
provide at this time with the bus pool.
i'ir. Reynolds: Sir, t really don't understand what you
are trying to provide. It is not clear, it's so vague that it
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defies definition. I wish I knew what you were trying to
provide.
Unidentified person: We are trying to provide a fixed
route service, the fixed route to be determined, upon a
number of people that will be interested in utilizing this
service on a regular basis.
Mr. Reynolds: Then what you are talking about sir,
is a bus route for which you have not yet determined the
need, and we would oppose that.
Unidentified person: The need has certainly been determined
by your reports as well as the reports of Mrs. Gordon.
tor. Plummer: Let me make a statement rather than a
question, Dave. You and I shoot pretty straight. I want
you to hear well what Father said. If we approve this pilot
project today, I think what Father was saying to you, we don't
want to see you back here in 4 or 5 months saying that is
lucrative, we want to take it over, put them out of business.
I am going on the strength that you are saying, you are not
objecting. My vote is going to be predicated on that, Dave.
If you are not objecting, all I am saying to you is, in 6
months or a year after these guys have gone out and done the
spade work, don't come back here and say, if we had that,we
would be breaking even. As Father Gibson says, you've got to
fish or cut bait.
Mrs. Gordon: That was one of the considerations J.L.
that came up at the committee meetings, and we were assured
it would not be that kind of take over in 6 or 8 months.
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell you how r feel about this
matter. In the first place, starting with the first submitted
plan which Commissioner Gordon reported as a committee of one
to this commission, I think it is practical, I think it is
effective, it has unknowns, I recognize that, I think it is
worth a try, and I am certainly for it. We might change our
minds later on, 6 months from now. I don't think this commission
can tie itself to something which everybody admits is experimental
in nature, but unless you experiment a little bit, then there
is no way for you to progress, and no way for you to find
avenues of new ways of solving problems. With regard to the
mini bus, and the cooperative of mini buses to be serving areas,
as iI understand it, as I see it, what they are trying to do,
is to render a service, which is not being rendered at this
time. The reason why this is a new and unique proposal as I
see it is because they are talking about charges of 300 or 500
which is something that a poor man or woman can afford to get
from one location to another. Now, the Metro Transit Authority
provides certain transportation, where this is different as i
see it, ----you know what this -reminds me of, ---you said it defies
definition. I'll tell you what I think they are talking about,.
they are talking about the same kind of system that mini buses
provide children in parochial and private schools I have seen,
and some public schools, and that is, a guy who just buys a
little bus and can transport 15 kids, picks them up at their
home, and takes them to their factory, which happens to be the
..chool,---factory of learning, okay? What in effect he is talking
d)out is doing the very same thing, except picking up children,
he is going to be picking up working men and women. And instead
of taking them to the schools, he is going to take them to where
they work, to factories. That is what I see.
Does this do harm to the taxi industry? In my opinion. I
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don't think it does because you are talking about a market,
which is going to be 300 or 500 and I don't think you are
serving that market, and I don't think that a working man
or five working men in a cab can afford to take a cab from
Little Havana and go to a factory in Hialeah, and pay the
bill, because you are talking about I would guess at least
a seven or eight dollar bill, and when you divide eight
dollars plus a tip -- the guy is going to want a tip, and
if he doesn't get a tip, he is not going to be very happy
to render that service; but assuming even if he doesn't
get a tip, when you divide eight dollars by five people
to pay for it, your talking about $1.50 or a dollar there-
abouts. 'He is talking about thirty cents. Now a working
man can afford to pay thirty cents -- all right, fifty cents.
I don't know, but the point is -- that is what he is mention-
ing. Now, the point -- if he were thinking of rendering the
type of service which competes with either the taxi industry
or the MTA, as is presently constituted, then I would be
against it, but I don't think that that man lives, for
example, in little Havana, just to take a point in case, is
going to take a cab to Hialeah to work in a factory #1, or
take a bus, go to downtown Miami, transfer, go out to Hialeah
and walk a half an hour, or whatever your talking about,
because that means for that working man or woman who gets
$1.50 to $2.00 in a factory, and he is making $15.00 a day.
He is not going to spend an hour and a half - that it is going
to take from Little Havana to Hialeah -- an hour and a half
from Little Havana to Hialeah to a factory, and return. Whether
it is an hour and a half or an hour, I am not going to argue.
the point. The point is that it is going to take him to and
from - from two to three hours, and if you calculate that even
at a minimum wage, yoube talking about five or six dollars of
that man's time, which is worth money.
1Now the point I am making is - that there is no question
that what this service is proposing to do, is to solve a need
for the poor working man who needs that service and is not getting
it today either by taxis or by busses. Now, the question of
legality, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what the Charter says.
I would imagine that there are a lot of problems to be worked
out:
(1) I see a problem with jurisdiction. Obviously, we
can only control this within the City of Miami. He is talking
about taking working people to working places - that means
mostly, Hialeah - not all, but mostly Hialeah. Now, that means
that we go into another jurisdiction. I don't know whether or
not Mr. Lloyd, we can provide this service within a five mile
radius, as he is talking about. That is something that you will
have to check out. Now the question of whether or not this
goes under the Florida Public Service Commission jurisdiction --.
I think that is another valid point that must be checked.
Whether or not,there is a provision within the existing structure
of --- listen, there is no provision for many things that we do
and that is what we are here to do. We are Legislators we
are here to Legislate laws. If we do not have laws at work,
then we make laws otherwise, and the people say that the system
doesn't work -- they are right.
1UI
Unless we can adapt to the circumstances to meet
the needs of the people - now the one thing that does
bother me, and the one thing that I am concerned with
is whether or not this will puttin effect,,drivers from the
MTA System out of work. If that is the case, then I think
that we have to think about this very carefully; but I am
not convinced at this point that it would put men out of
work. Also, I think that you have to consider, and we can't
get involved in jurisdictional problems here - whether it's
a transport workers' union or a taxi union. We can't get
involved in that. Obviously, it may put some people out of
work, even though that is a question, but obviously it will
put some people to work, and that also has to be considered.
In conclusion, what I am saying is this: I think the idea
is a good idea, and I think what the Commission ought to do,
and this is my suggestion, is to either accept the principle
or reject the principle, and then see if Administratively
and legally there is a solution. There may not be a solution.
We come into a legal block that we just can't solve it - you
understand, and if that happens, then I am sorry -- we have
tried our best but it does not fall in our jurisdiction.
That may be the case; but I think if we can't find the solution
we ought to struggle with it. We ought to try to fit it in.
Now, we have a lot of things in the City of Miami which
are unknown or unheard of. Four years ago we paid for legal
services or Dade Care centers. We never had Dade care Centers
before, but we found ways of doing it. We found the money; we
found the solutions to it. The important thing is: do we like
the idea - do we like the principle? And then let us try to
solve it. I want to be very clear with Mr. Pino that obviously
this is not going to be something that is going to be his baby.
It might be very well that Mr. Zilber,or somebody else may want
to go into that business,, and he may want to put in five or ten
mini busses, and we are going to recognize that we are not going
to be able to say this is your exclusive right. So this is
something that may be open. Maybe the Greyhound people may
want to get into this, and this is a matter that we'll have to
wrestle with later on.
Mrs. Gordon: I have some very important questions
Mayor. You made your point and it is well taken, but I have to
say impractical because when you deliver people to Hialeah
and they have to come back, and they live in Miami, they will
have to get on a vehicle that's licensed by the City of Hialeah,
and consequently there is no way.
Mayor Ferre: I said that there are jurisdictional
problems that must be worked out.
Mrs. Gordon: Idealistically you are trying to solve
all the problems. I don't undrerstand what Mr. Pino Wants at
this point in time. I knew what he wanted a month ago, let
him explain it because he had a fixed route and now he doesn't
have a fixed route.
Mayor Ferre: I'll explain it.
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Mrs. Gordon: No, no, I'd like to hear him say it.
Mayor Ferre: I will supersede that and then
--
Mrs. Gordon: I have a form that you handed me today.
(interrupted by Mayor Ferre). You said that I can ramble, but
your not letting me ramble.
Mayor Ferre: I will in just a second, so you will
understand. Mr. Pino wants, as I heard him clearly state,
the right to have mini busses in the City of Miami that will
pick up people and deliver them to specific locations. Now
as I understand it, that's what he is asking for. He does
not want a route.
Mrs. Gordon: How will you bring them back Mr. Pino.?
Mr. Pino.: Mrs. Gordon - Mr. Schiff who is a trans-
portation attorney; however, I am going to ask him to answer
your question. I have my transportation attorney and he tells
me that as far as (inaudible) or finish in the City of Miami
the City of Miami has power within the city limits and five
air miles (inaudible). I am sure that it is something that
will have to be worked out with the Legal Department and will
be meeting with the Legal Department, but the (inaudible)
have no jurisdiction
Mrs. Gordon: Why are you abandoning the fixed route
that you showed and we have in our folders today?
Mr. Pino : Because Mrs. Gordon there is a proposal
from MTA where we are showing a route, where there is no
service whatsoever in area where the City of Miami will not
have power; however, because we don't want to interfere with
the route here in the heart of the City where they make the
money, (inaudible) we will show you how we lure people out of
cars, so we are not going to ask for the sixth route of (inaudible)
can be done without affecting their revenue, or without affecting
employment from union workers like Mr. Ross.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask the taxicab industry now
very definitely yes or no. Are you or are you not, willing
to continue along the basis that you set originally which was
to have a pilot program we originally said six months. Are
you still willing to proceed -- yes or no?
I am talking - I am asking the taxicab industry to
answer a question. The question is whether they are still
willing to proceed, knowing that MTA may come in and develop
some kind of mini bus system at some future time, but knowing
full well that it has taken almost two years for the Flagler
Street busses to be delivered ---
Mr. Ferre: We understand - it is almost 7 o'clock
Mrs. Gordon: I know, Mr. Mayor, you ramble -- let me
ramble. O.K. You promised me I could ramble. I gave you
some grapes -- let me ramble.'
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Mayor k'erre: Thank God for the little grapes:
Mrs. Gordon: I ask you again knowing full well
how long it takes to deliver vehicles - knowing that they may
eventually develop a similar system, and you will then have to
either abandon yours or not make money with it «. one or the
other,, Are you willing to proceed?
Mr.Zilbers'. Would you answer yes or no?
Mrs. Gordon: A11 right.
Mr. Zilber:' Yes, as long as it won't be taken away
from us in the future by the City Commission.
Mrs. Gordon: The future is not tomorrow. The future
could be a year from now, but it certainly couldn't physically -
possibly, in my thinking, be within a six-month period, because
vehicles do not exist within the MTA system at the present time.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody in the taxicab industry who dis-
agrees with Mr. Zilber's ', statement?
Mr. Plummer: Let me interject one thing here because
it is the one question that I have and Mr. Zilber\better listen
to this pretty good. Now, I saw some bus shelters out in the
Model Cities area - it cost $220.000.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean those concrete monstrosities:
that cost $3000 a piece?
Mr. Plummer: What I am trying to get at is a fact.
There's going to be some money involved - the telephones, two
shelters that there's no other way to provide, and I want to
know if Mr. Zilberis going to lay out that money and he is
still going because somebody has to pay it.
Mayor Ferre: They are ugly, and I am personally and totally
against them.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Zilber, pur proposal for pilot route
includes five separate zones. Would you select a zone for a
pilot, or two zones for a pilot, where they wouldn't need to be
any shelters built from the five as a beginning vehicle.
tyr. Zilber:
You still have the phone.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, that is a minor item, and I'll
tell you another thing - our Department said they would work
along with them. I see Major Smith here. I don't know if he
wants to comment. I think it would be necessary before we
conclude.
Mayor Ferre: Let's give Plummer a break.
Mr. Plummer: The question I'm saying - whatever it
is going to cost, it is going to cost somebody, and the final
question that 1 addressed to the Manager is: Does the City
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stand any question of liability? O.K., somebody gets hurt =-
now what is the City's position - now with M.T.A., they have
their own legal department, their own insurance, fine. What
happens to that guy standing under that shelter when the
shelter falls? That is ridiculous, but it can happen.
Mr. Lloyd : I can answer - it depends on whose
shelter it is. If the City puts up the shelters, pays
for them, and owns the shelters, the City is responsible.
Mrs. Gordon: Did the City put up this concrete
monster?
Mr. Lloyd: Now that was Model City - I know that.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, that is still in the City - on
City right -away.
Mr. Lloyd: O.K. I just want those questions on the
record because I think these are things that are overlooked
sometimes.
Mrs. Gordon: I think J.L., Mayor, and all - I want
to offer a motion now.
Mayor Ferre: I recognize Rose Gordon for the purpose
of a motion.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you Mayor. The motion is that
it -would have to be followed by a Resolution which would
have to be prepared. The motion is that we implement the
Pilot Taxi Program for six months. That the details of the
route be completed between our taxicab bureau and M.T.A. and
the Taxicab industry, and that this be implemented within the
next thirty days.
Mr. Plummer: At whose expense?
Mrs. Gordon: The expense would have to come back to
you Mr. Plummer when they have an exact amount either for your
rejection or your acceptance. I can't tell you the exact dollar
because I don't know the dollar until they select the route
and we know exactly what we are facing.
Mr. Plummer: All right, so in other words, what you
are saying - this is in principle.
Mrs. Gordon: In principle. O.K. I move that.
Mr. Lloyd: Just a moment. This can't be done within
30 days from today because we have no Ordinance at this time
which accommodates this type of activity, so we have to draw
up an Ordinance, so therefore you can't put a time limit on
it for 30 days.
Mrs. Gordon: All right. How long would it need
to satisfy the drafting of the Ordinance and what Ordinance
would have to be drafted?
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Mr. Lloyd: It would have to be a special ordinance which
would exempt them from the provisions of the general taxi
cab ordinance as to meters, flags, etc.
Mrs. Gordon: You need an Ordinance that would -
in the event that they would not have to put the meter down
if they had a full cab.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, it exempts them from all other
provisions regarding rates.
Mrs. Gordon: If I had understood it, we had needed
no Ordinance changes when we discussed this at Committee's
level.
Mr. Ferre: Will you let me speak?
Mrs. Gordon: O.K. if the Attorney speaks
Mr. Ferre: Please - let me run the meeting - please.
Mrs. Gordon: Let me finish my comment.
Mr. Ferre: I will not let you finish your comment at
this time. Now I am going to ask the City Attorney to answer
that question before she keeps on rambling on something else.
Mr. Lloyd: We need a special ordinance to accommodate
this new activity.
Mrs. Gordon: O.K. I will include that in the motion,
that a proper Ordinance be drafted. This is a motion of intent;
that the proper ordinance be drafted by the Attorney to make
possible this Pilot Program as I delineated.
Mayor Ferre: All right. We have a Motion. The Motion
has been made by Commissioner Gordon. Is there a second to
the motion?
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this Mr. Mayor - and then maybe
I will consider a second. What is the alternative? Nothing?
Mayor Ferre: No. The alternative is - I think this
matter has some administrative complexities to it. For example,
shelter, insurance,
Mr. Plummer: I heard that somewheres.
Mayor Ferre: I am repeating what you have been stating
for several hours that this matter is not -- that we brought it
to a level. This is a plateau, and before we climb to the
summit on this thing, we've got to get some things very clear
on it, and I don't think we are in that posture right now this
evening.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, what you are saying is
the alternative to her motion is to send it back to the drawing
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Board.
Mayor Ferre: No! To get the sense of the Commission
for it, which we are basically for, and then turn it over
to the Manager for his working out the detail, including
insurance, etc. and bring it back to us for final action.
Rev. Gibson: More than that I think the City Attorney
must tell us. I think - now I may be using the wrong adjectives
to eminent attorneys who said that we don't have the legal
right of power.
Mr. Lloyd: May it please your Honor, we are talking
about two different things. We are talking about the first
plan now, which is a different proposal than what they talked
about ---
Mayor Ferre: About apples and oranges. He is talking
about -- and we have been talking now for about twenty minutes
about Plan "A" which is the routed thing for the taxicabs.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, and we can do that Mr. Lloyd - is
that correct? With a minor adjustment.
Mr. Lloyd: Well, it is not a minor adjustment, and I
have said what we have to do.
Mayor Ferre: All right ladies and gentlemen
Mrs. Gordon: I moved the Motion - did you get a second?
Or are you going to get a second?
Mayor Ferre: I am trying to if you let me -- I'll ask
for a second. On the Motion asked by Commissioner Gordon --
is there a second? Once? Is there a second? Twice? Is there
a second? Three times. For lack of a second, the Motion dies,
now do you want to restate your motion and make it a matter of
(interrupted by Mrs. Gordon)
Mrs. Gordon: It is a principal motion. O.K.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion now as a matter of
principle.
Mrs. Gordon: The motion is that the Manager, our Law
Department, the M.T.A., the representatives of taxicab industry,
our own taxicab bureau, jointly confer on a method of implementing
a Pilot Taxicab Program for a six month period of time. Come'
back to us with the cost \factors for our consideration.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, may I suggest that instead of
doing something that seems ratther complicated, and that is what
the committee is supposed to do, and that is what we've been
doing.
Mrs. Gordon: We did that Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: May I recommend that what we do here is
that we accept your report in principle and that we then ask
the Manager to come back with specific implementation of it,
and we will then vote in final measures at that time. Ne may
come back and say that he sees no solution to the insurance
or something ----•-
Mrs. Gordon: I'll move it that way. I'll move it
back. You accept my report which was - do I have to renew
it? Do you accept my report in principle that we direct
the Manager and the Law Department to proceed to see how
it can be implemented.
Mayor Ferre: And come back with the specifics for
this Commission to pass.
Mrs. Gordon: Fine, that tells the story. O.K.
Mr. Reboso: I second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: For further discussion --
Mr. Reboso: Mr. Mayor, does that exclude those
people?
Rev. Gibson: No, no, - here's what I am asking:
Suppose they were to say to you right when you go back, we
are prepared to participate, and remember you said that you
have a pilot route and a pilot route there, want to make
that that excludes those people - if they wanted to partici-
pate, meeting the criteria?
Mrs. Gordon: If they have taxicab certificates, it
does not. It precludes their participation.
Mr. Plummer: Father, it does not preclude, but it
does possibly make them competitors.
Rev. Gibson: Let me make sure -- I want to vote
but I want to make sure they are not excluded.
Mrs. Gordon: No, they are not excluded.
Mr. Lloyd: , The question is theoretically no but
actually yes, because the number of taxicab certificates
are frozen, so in fact yes.
have
Mrs. Gordon: But if you bought certificates you'd
please.
Mayor Ferre: Let him answer, and do it quickly
Mr. Pino: No; we don't have taxicab certificates.
Mayor Ferre: So the answer is that from a practical
point of view, yes they are excluded. These people would be
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excluded because they do not have the licenses; so the answer
is theoretically no - they are not excluded - practically yes,
because they don't have any license.
Mr. Plummer: Then Mr. Mayor, I would have to vote
against that Motion. May I proffer something which I will
be glad to have Rose put in to a Motion. Mr. Mayor, I feel
that Father Gibson's concern or I think that I do, and I
would say that a proper motion at this time is that we direct
the City Manager, the City Attorney, and other appropriate
to number (1) To look into the cost and all
ramifications of proposal(a) which is the cooperative of
the taxicab system. (b) That he look into the legality
or possibility and all ramifications of the proposal of
plan (b) - that way when he comes back with his report, no
one is excluded, except he will come back and lay all of
the facts on top of the table. He will tell us plan (a)
cost X number of dollars, and its here; if you want to accept
it, or you don't. Plan (b) is legal or it can be legal, or
it is not legal.
Mrs. Gordon: That's O.K. You can do it that way.
We can make it in two motions if you would. It won't hurt
anybody or anything, because it is the same thing. Youi not
accepting anything but my report and recommendation. Now
you will have to get recommendations by unanimous
Mayor Ferre: I am going to be power of attorney
besides Chairman here. The chair rules that we have a motion
and now Murray you help me -- this is a substitute motion
that Mr. Plummer is making -- now I will accept the substitute
motion, and there is a second.
Is there a second substitute motion?
Rev. Gibson: I don't want anyone excluded.
Mayor Ferre: Now the substitute motion has been
accepted. Now I think we vote on the substitute motion first.
Is that right? Is there further discussion?
Mrs. Gordon: I am going to ask Mr. Plummer a question.
We're on a motion now. J.L.: Do you have strong feelings
about that being in one motion or would you accept it in two
motions? Would you take it as a second motion, and wee/1
vote on each one of them? Father will still have his and I'll
still have mine, and you'll still have yours, and we'll have
two motions - O.K.? Shall we do it that way? I am asking
Mr. Plummer.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion and we have
a second, and he won't get -off -the motion -- and speaking of
the motion -- unless you really have to speak to the motion.
Now let's vote on this. Is there any further discussion on
this item? If not, call the roll.
Mr. Plummer - yes. Mr. Reboso - yes. Rev. Gibson - yes.
Mrs. Gordon - what can I do - vote against four months of work?
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Mayor Ferre I vote yes. I think this pretty well takes care
of everything. Said motion was designated Motion No, 74-1085.
Mr. Millo: Mr. Mayor, there is one thing I would have
liked to have said before. I said there was a question to Mr.
Austin as to the legality of our application, and I would
like to say that pursuant to Section 56-70, we certainly are
within that Section and as proof of that particular situation,
I will go back to your analogyof the school bus --
Mayor Ferre: You two lawyers get together and argue
out whether the Section 158 applies or not because you say
it does, and he says it doesn't, and in the long run we will
be ruled by what that man says. We have to put a time limit
on this. Mr. Manager how long do you want reasonably?
Mr. Andrews: Can you tolerate a sixty day period?
Mrs. Gordon: No
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Lloyd can you tell me how long it
will take you to draft the proposed ordinance -- I may study
it in the meantime?
Mr. Lloyd: I will say that we can do it at the outset
of two weeks.
Mrs. Gordon: You can have the Ordinance
Mr. Lloyd: We can have the Ordinance done in a week.
Now the other thing may take a little longer.
Mrs. Gordon: I would like to know what is specifically
involved in this Ordinance -- that is a consideration. Also,
from the legal standpoint, what is specifically involved with
the other system -- you know, legally?
Mr. Lloyd: I think we will have to have a little
longer time. We will do the Ordinance first - that we can do.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you.
Mr. Millo: Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask one question.
As I understand, the only thing that will be decided would be
the legality and the jurisdiction of this Commission and if it's
found to be legal and the Commission to have jurisdiction, it
will be approved?
Mrs. Gordon: Oh no, you just read things into something
mister. I never said I approved ----
Mr. Millo: I never asked the question to you Commissioner
Gordon, I asked the Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: I am a member of this Commission sir.
Mayor Ferre: You let me chair this Mrs. Gordon. The man
asked the question. I think there is some confusion as to what
the intent of this motion was. Since both items "A and B" were
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placed together, what in fact as I understand we passed, was
we obviously tentatively approved in concept both "A and B"
and we then passed it on to the Administration and to the
legal staff to prepare the proper legal documents -- if that's
possible for both "A and B". If A is legal and possible, and
B is not, then that takes care of that, doesn't it? On the
other hand,
Mrs. Gordon: If they are both legal, then we choose
which one we want or both.
Mayor Ferre: And that will come before this Commission
for final vote as soon as the Manager says that he can finish.
point.
Mr. Millo: Thank you Mr. Mayor. That clarifies the
Mayor Ferre: Did I state this right? O.K. now
Mr. Millo: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Commission,
I would say that we can do this within a two week period then
from the direction you have just given because part "B" is
the worrisome part to me Administratively; but if a legal
question has to be answered there first, and most of the
economics and practicality of plan "A", I think that we can
get through that.
Mayor Ferre: Let me put it to you this way - obviously
if this matter is not legal and the City Attorney rules that
it is not legal, then there is no need to go into an Admin-
istrative determination. If he does rule that there is an
avenue that we can travel on legally, then it falls in your
domain to figure out what it is -going to cost; how you implement
it; and figure out and come back to this Commission right away.
Mr. Millo: I would like to ask a question of the
City Manager. What are the problems Administratively to our
proposals?
Mayor Ferre: No sir, we are not going to recognize
that question because t've already told you exactly what the
proceedings are. It first is a legal matter - if we can find
the legal avenue and you get a green light on that, then you will
have to sit down with the Administration to work out the
administrative end of it.
Mr. Millo: Will these hopefully be considered together?
Mayor Ferre: I would certainly hope so. Since they
were passed together that they will be voted upon together
because even though they are separate, they are interrelated.
Mr. Millo: I would hope so - thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: O.K. Is there anything further to
come up before this Commission:
Mr. Eisenberg: Mr. Mayor, I would like to say
something. A moment ago you analogized this Mini bus program
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that similar to school busses - private school, and you also
stated that this would not hurt the taxicab industry -- is that
correct in your opinion? I am sorry - it's got to hurt the
taxicab industry because what about the existing taxicab
business Mayor? if everybody can ride for a fare of thirty
to sixty cents, then existing customers will want to ride for
that fare from point "A to point B" - so it got to eventually
affect the taxicab industry. Yet, it may apply to some people
that will not take taxicabs; but it still is going to hurt
the present business we already have.
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48. DISCUSSION ITEM- OF AGENDA ITEM TEN STATEMENT OF NOW'CONFORMI
:
COMMISSIONER GY SON - REGARD/NG THE WITHDRAWL --
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, Item 10 bothers me only because, not
because I don't want to understand the man but it bothers me
because of the method. Let me see... where there is a with-
drawal on item 10. Isn't that the one? Mr. Mayor, I want to
make sure and put all of us on the record. Rose, come on, I
want to put you on the record. Yes sir, I want to put Rose on
the record. Item 10 where the man was the applicant....
Mr. Andrews: Bobby Dykes....
Mr. Lloyd: You're talking about the withdrawn item, are you
not?
Rev. Gibson: The withdrawn item, what item is that?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir. That's review of extension of waiver
of development of six of 27 required off-street parking spaces
in conjunction with a 22-unit apartment building at the S.E.
corner of N.W. 5th Avenue and 34th Street. That's the item
you're talking about, Father?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir, on 34th and 5th Avenue. Now, I have
nothing against the man. As a matter of fact, I could under-
stand his problem but I think that when people come to this
Commission, Mr. Mayor, I want to make sure; to put everybody..
you know I'm jumping off this afternoon. I want to make sure,
here is a withdrawn item and I presume... Who withdrew it, the
man or who?
1 Mr. Lloyd: It says here this item deferred at the request of
the applicant.
Rev. Gibson: All right. The reason I'm making this statement,
I want you to listen carefully, the applicant came - Rose, I
want you to be just as concerned about my concern as I am about
yours - the applicant came here 60 or so days ago. He had not
conformed and he said he wanted time. We granted him 60 days.
That was a priviledge, not a right. He doesn't .ve the right
to withdraw this item. I visited myself ate: I went out there
yesterday and I looked and those can, are there, they were yes-
terday at noon just as they were when he came in here 60 days
ago and was granted a 60 day reprieve. Now I want the Commis-
sion to understand how I feel. I see that the citizens of
this community must live under the law or we need not have any
laws. Now he does not have the right to ask you to withdraw
that item when we told him that we're going to give you 60
days to ship up I,r ship out. He did not plant those trees, the
Building Department did not have a chance to inspect those
soak pits. Now I feel that if he needed more time he should
have had the grace to come here and ask for that time, not to
tell us withdraw it. Now I want to serve notice on the staff;
my brother, if he does that again or anybody else I'm going to
offer a motion to put him under the hammer because if we have
laws where people are just junking up this City and they don't
intend to move those care after they were told; then what we
ought to do is put the weight of the law on them. And I take
that attitude because the man was in here who was dealing with
that sign business - we were polite to him and then he took
us to federal court.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Is that clear? •
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Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Father, is there any action that you want other
than what you said?
Rev. Gibson: No, sir. 1 want the administration to write that
man a letter and ask him to show up at the next meeting come
hell and high water.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir. This will be scheduled for your decis-
ion whether he shows up or not.
Rev. Gibson: And if he doesn't have it, if he hasn't moved
those cars, planted those trees and had that soak pit inspect-
ed I'm going to be the first one to offer the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Father, why don't you make it more direct? Why
don't you write him a letter and say that on the llth day of
October his permit is being withdrawn. If he would like con-
sideration that that permit not be withdrawn he has that
opportunity on the loth, so you've then notified him that he's
loosing it on the llth. Make it more direct.
Rev. Gibson: All right. I'll make the motion.
The following motion was introduced by Rev. Gibson who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1086
A MOTION EXPRESSING THE POLICY OF THE COM-
MISSION THAT THE REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF
WAIVER OF DEVELOPMENT OF SIX OR TWENTY-
SEVEN OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES AT THE S.E.
CORNER OF N.W. 5TH AVENUE AND 34TH STREET
BE DENIED UNLESS APPLICANT APPEARS AT THE
OCTOBER LOTH MEETING AND GIVES ADEQUATE
REASON FOR EXTENSION.
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I take just a minute of the time
because we spent so much time; there seems to be a little bit
of confusion as to the motion which I made. Now to the City
Attorney and to the City Manager, if there is any confusion on
your part, let's clear it up before this Commission adjourns.
My motion and the intent of my motion; was that we did not
accept either Plan A or Plan B. We directed you to come back
to this Commission on agreed upon date telling us the cost and
all ramifications of Plan A. Plan B is either legal, not legal
or it is possible; anything you can tell us in ramification of
Plan B. Now did you misunderstand that? We did not accept
either plan. Did my fellow commissioners accept it that way.
Mayor Ferre: I stand corrected because in the long run it
doesn't make that much difference.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we didn't accept either plan.
Mrs. Gordon: It was my understanding that you accepted my
report and the proposal.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, your report as submitted. But we did
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Mrs, Gordon: in principal, in principal, And 1 was under the
impression that you didn't change that part at all.
Mr. Plummer: No. Did you two understand?
Mt. Andrews: Yes.
49, APPOINTING ANNETTE EISENBERG TO THE MIAMI MEMORIAL COMITIES._
Mayor Ferre: Wayne E. Withers, chairmen of the.M`armi Memorial
Committee has recommended that the MemorialA�iasltdisciee
A ussed and
wishes to submit the name of Mrs. Annette Eisenberg for the
City Commission's consideration and I might say that this was
a recommendation that I made to the Memorial Committee and per-
haps others did too.
Mrs. Gordon: So did I, so I'll move it if you have no object-
ions.
Mr. Plummer: So did I.
Mayor Ferre: All right. The point is that obviously this
woman worked very hard and
Mrs. Gordon: She conceived the idea and she developed it.
The following motion was introduced by Mrs. Gordon who
moved its aloption:
MOTION NO. 74-1087
A MOTION APPOINTING ANNETTE EISENBERG TO
THE MIAMI MEMORIAL COMMITTEE,
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: October 3rd is the dedication, ladies and gentle-
men.
APPOINTING AS MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT GOVERNMENT
50. COMMITTEE: MONNA LIGHTE AND DOLLY MC INTYRE
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dan Paul and Mr. Bill Colson resigned the
committee to be on the study of Downtown Development and Zoning
Study for the Consumer's end.
Mr. Plummer: Why?
Mayor Ferre: They just said that they had too many other
obligations and they.. They didn't really give too many rea-
sons, they just did not accept; after they had previously
accepted they changed their minds. So I would like to appoint
in their place Mrs. Mona Lighte and Mrs. Dolly McIntyre.
The following motion was introduced by Rev. Gibson who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NC). 74-1088
A MOTION APPOINTING MRS. MONNA LIGHTE AND
MRS. DOLLY McINTYRE AS MEMBERS OF THE DOWN-
TOWN REDEVELOPMENT GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE TO
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REPLACE DAN PAUTL AND I+1ILLIAM COLSON, RESIGNED.
Upon being seconded by Mr. 1eboso the motion was passed
and adopted unanimously.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - MR, JETHRO DAVIS, SUNSHINE LIMOUSINE SERV.
51, R -(AR tNG LICENSE PE0$LEM
Mr. Jethro Pitts:i Honorable Mayor and Commission, my name is
Jethro Pitts. I live at 1660 N.E. 150 Street, North Miami
Beach. I'm the President of Sunshine Limousine Service. Last
year the City of Miami issued me a license which expired Sept-
ember 30th. Sergeant Will called me at my office at this time
and informed me that the City wouldn't issue me another license.
The only reason that he could give me was that they issued it
to me by a mistake.
Mr. Plummer: By what?
Mr. Pitts: By mistake. Allright, this silly mistake caused
me to go in about 8 or 9 thousand dollars worth of debt and
coming Tuesday, I will have to close my doors. I'll try to
sell my cars, that limousine cost me like 12, $13,000 and I
... two limousines at $8,000.00 and the car is not even 6
months old. I have a license here that I was issued in '73.
Mrs. Gordon: What do you mean by mistake? What kind of mis-
take?
Mr. Pitts: That's the only explanation they would give me.
He wouldn't tell me no more.
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to cut right through so it will be
very quick. It is very simple. They said yes last year and
this year they said they had made a mistake and they took out
his license.
Mr. Plummer: Who said it?
Mayor Ferre: The City of Miami...
Mr. Pitts: Sergeant Wills.
Mr. Plummer: That's the Taxi Bureau.
Mayor Ferre: The City of Miami Taxi Bureau. That doesn't seem
right, so would you look into it and report back to this Com-
mission within the next few days. Claude, you want to talk
about this?
Mr. Claude Roth: You're all hitting me on both ends. Sun-
shine Limousine Service there just signed... with me, they're
hurting them there and then this Mini -Bus service too, how
many times am I going to get hit in one day? They're a part
of our union.
Mayor Ferre: Are you opposed to this?
Mr. Roth: No, they're a part of our union. They signed cars
for Transport Workers Union. That's the reason I'm staying
around.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, let's get Plummer on the line again. ; Mr.
Mayor, I'll offer a motion that the license be reinstated
until the justification is shown before this Commission by the
Taxi Cab bureau that it should be revoked.
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Mr. Southern: 1n order to get this motion correct, I'll need
a little more information from this gentleman as to what the
name of the service is and
Mayor Ferret He'll provide that for you.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, let me just go on the record
just so that there's no mistake. Sir, you don't ever rent
limousines to me at the funeral home, do your
Mr. Pitts: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, 1 just wanted that on the record.
Rev. Gibson: He don't rent any to me either.
The following motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1089
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE REINSTATEMENT OF
FOR -HIRE CAR LICENSE #33431 TO SUNSHINE
LIMOUSINE SERVICE, INC., 770 N.W. 54TH
STREET, UNTIL JUSTIFICATION IS SHOWN THE
COMMISSION BY THE TAXICAB BUREAU THAT IT
SHOULD BE REVOKED.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR UP DATING OF
52, APPRAISALS CONCERNED WITH ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR
LkUN RLY R ?ARK
Mr. Andrews: Latin Riverfront Park - We're in the process of
condemnation of this 41 acre tract. There are certain problems
attending to the processes of trying to acquire the park and I
want to take the time.... Yes, a 41 acre tract. The Green
portion which was acquired from the archdiocese. The rest we
were not able to acquire under negotiation; it's under condemn-
ation. There have been some changes of events where it may be
possible now to acquire this under direct purchase by negotiat-
ing with the property owners. I come to you with this reco-
mmendation because we believe that we can acquire all of the
parcels for 11 million dollars or less. We have available
$1,100,000 in total funds. We would make recommendations to
the Commission as to where the balance of the funds could come
from if it is possible to accomplish the acquisition for a
million and a half dollars. Now Mr. Lloyd would make arrange-
ments through Mr. Crouch to negotiate in an effort to acquire
this property and come to the City Commission after agreements
have been reached on all parcels to insure that we could acquire
all parcels. If we acquired the middle parcel and couldn't
get either other parcels we would have a divided park which
wouldn't suit our purposes. Now what I'm recommending to the
Commission is that we be authorized to expend up to $10,000
to update the appraisals that we have so that we can attempt
to acquire it by negotiation. If we find that we cannot and
the price begins to exceed the million and a half dollars and
I'm recommending to the City Commission that we forgo the ac-
quisition of this property and that we go to some other area.
I'm not prepared to specify what other area at this time but I
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want to have theommission at least adopt a motion author.,
ring us to
Ir. Plummer: What has already been spent to acquire the two
small parcels, how much money?
Mr. Crouch: $43,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right, and that makes up what portion of the
entire tract? Oh, my God, it's not 10%.
Mr. Crouch:
whole entire
Mayor Ferre:
The Bishop Carrol part was 15,644 square feet and
park was 195 so that puts it at about 8%.
But you can't go on those dollars
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me tell you what I am going on.
Mr. Andrews: Can I interrupt you to save you some time? You
know what, you're not making any decision now whether you're
going to buy it or not. All you're authorizing us to do is
to spend monies for updating the appraisals so we can....
Mr. Plummer: $10,000.001
Mr. Andrews: 1But it can cost you considerably more if we can
proceed in condemnation.
Mr. Plummer: Let me get one final point in and then I'll shut
up. Mr. Lloyd, did you not inform me, sir that a parcel of
land right in the immediate area went for $10.00 per square
foot that the county bought?
Mayor Ferre: That's not the point. In other words, that we
might be able to reasonably negotiate this if we can up with
the justified figures in the appraisal. Let me put it to you
this way. It is a $10,000 gamble but the odds are on our side.
Mrs. Gordon: I can also tell you that Park and Recreational
Fund gets a $600,000,000 boost in Washington. Maybe some of
that money will come down from there. How do you know it is
going to cost $10,000 to get the appraisals?
Mr. Andrews: I'm not saying it is. I'm saying we will be
limited to that.
Mayor Ferre: I hope it will be less. It should be less.
Updating an appraisal shouldn't be more than two or three
thousand dollars.
The following motion was introduced by Mr. Reboso who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1090
A MOTION AUTHORIZING 'Y'HE EXPENDITURE OF NOT TO
EXCEED TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR UP -DATING OF
APPRAISALS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACQUISITION
OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES FOR THE LATIN RIVERFRONT
PARK.
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the motion was passed
• and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plum-
mer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
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Mrs. Gordon In the Port Site that we already own, the Old
Port Site which is graded and leveled, the architects have
informed me they are willing to place trees in there as part
of their tree bank program and probably save us some money on
the acquisition of the trees and so Mr. Andrews is going to be
working with them in that direction.
REQUEST STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL TO
53 COLCERNINGSINSTALLNCE ATIONF ROFTG-.Lb"MSLUDGE LINES-DADE ETC.
SEWER AUTN
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1091
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE STATE OF FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL TO WITHHOLD
THE ISSUANCE TO THE MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER
AUTHORITY OF A PERMIT TO INSTALL TWO 16-INCH
FORCE MAINS UNDER BISCAYNE BAY FROM S. E. 2ND
STREET TO THE CENTRAL DISTRICT WASTEWATER
TREATMENT PLANT ON VIRGINIA KEY; AND THAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF POLLUTION CONTROL WITHHOLD
ISSUANCE OF THIS PERMIT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE
CITY COMMISSION INFORMS THE DEPARTMENT THAT
THE CITY HAS BEEN FURNISHED DOCUMENTED PROOF
IN WRITING THAT THE PROPOSED ROUTING OF THE TWO
16-INCH FORCE MAINS THROUGH THE CITY OF MIAMI TO
S.E. 2ND STREET AND THEN ACROSS BISCAYNE BAY TO
VIRGINIA KEY IS THE ONLY SUITABLE ROUTE AVAILABLE
FOR THE LOCATION OF THESE FORCE MAINS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
54, URGE COLLEGE FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME TO ACCEPT NOMINATION') OF
ERNIE SEILER
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1092
A RESOLUTION URGING THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL
HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE TO STRONGLY CON-
SIDER ERNIE SEILER _FOR MEMBERSHIP FOR ALL
THE ACHIEVEMENTS HEHASACCOMPLISHED TOWARD
THE GROWTH OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL TO THE
POSITION IT HOLDS TODAY IN THE HEARTS OF
ALL SPORTS FANS THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
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Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson,.Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Perre.
NOES: None.
55, GRANT REQUEST OF COCONUT GROVE BANK FOR ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING
PERMIT FOR DRIVE-IN TELLER.MODIF1CATION$
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1093
A RESOLUTION GRANTING THE REQUEST
OF COCONUT GROVE BANK FOR ISSUANCE
OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR DRIVE-IN
TELLER MODIFICATIONS AT SAID BANK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
GRANT REQUEST OF COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION INC, FOR CLOSING OF
56, CERTAIN STREETS, USE OF PEACOCK PARK FOR
CDOW_DROYEARTS EE$T IYAL IN 1175
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1094
A RESOLUTION GRANTING THE REQUEST OF THE
COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR
ASSISTANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE COCONUT
GROVE ARTS FESTIVAL ON FEBRUARY 14, 15
AND 16, 1975 BY MAKING McFARLANE ROAD, FROM
ITS INTERSECTION WITH MAIN HIGHWAY AND
GRAND AVENUE TO THE FOOT OF BISCAYNE BAY A
PEDESTRIAN MALL DURING THE THREE (3) DAYS
OF THE FESTIVAL AND CLOSING SOUTH BAYSHORE
DRIVE NORTH TO MARY STREET TO CREATE A
CONTIGUOUS "L" SHAPE FOR EASY ADMINISTRATION;
GRANTING PERMISSION FOR THE USE OF COCONUT
GROVE PEACOCK PARK; AND AUTHORIZING THE
PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO
THE COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION, INC. A
$1,000 "PURCHASE AWARD" FOR ART WORK;
ALLOCATING SAID $1,000 FROM THE POLICE HEAD-
QUARTERS AND CRIME PREVENTION FACILITIES FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and( on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs, Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1095.
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF SHELL CITY
PARKING LOT, N.W. 58TH STREET AND 6TH COURT,
MIAMI, FLORIDA TO THE JUNIOR NAVAL CADETS OF
AMERICA; THE FREE AND ACCEPTED LODGE #96; AND
THE NEW LIFE LODGE #504 TO HOLD A FUND-RAISING
CARNIVAL FROM DECEMBER 5TH THROUGH DECEMBER 8TH,
1974; SUBJECT TO ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EVENT
PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS
BORNE BY THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ADJOURN!1ENT:. -TH
ERE-BEING-NO FURTHER BUSINESS. TO CQM . B FORE
THE ITY COMMISSION THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT //: 0 BEFORE
ATTEST: H.D. SOUTHERN
CITY CLERK
RALPH G. ONGTE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
MAURICE A. FERRE
MAYOR
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COMMISSION AGENDA & CITY CLERK REPORT
(16 pages) .
CONFIRMING RESOLUTION NO. 74-640-ADVERTISE
BIDS CONSTRUCTION GARDEN SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT SR-5385C
CONFIRMING RESOLUTION 74-641-ADVERTISE BIDS
CONSTRUCTION GARDEN SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT SR-5385S
CONFIRMING RESOLUTION 74-639-ADVERTISE BIDS
CONSTRUCTION GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
H-4374
ACCEPTING RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT FOR "LATIN COMMUNITY STUDY"
ASSISTANCE FROM STATE OF FLORIDA-
TRANSPORTING HURRICANE RELIEF SUPPLIES TO
HONDURAS
APPROVING ELEMENTS OF THE "LATIN COMMUNITY
STUDY" PREPARED BY CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING
DEPARTMENT
ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR 1974-75
PROVIDING PUBLIC HEARINGS CONCERNING THE
INCREASED MILLAGE RATE -BUDGET 1974-75
ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "LITTLE RIVER CENTER"
A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI
ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "HELLER TRACT"
A SUBDIVISION CITY OF MIAMI
ACCEPT COMPLETE WORK-JOE REINERTSON
EQUIPMENT COMPANY -SOUTHERN DRAINAGE
PROJECT E-31
ACCEPT COMPLETE WORK-AMERICAN DAVITS
CORPORATION -MARINE STADIUM BOAT PIT
PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING -
CONSTRUCTION N.W. 51 TERRACE ALLEY
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4371
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND TO COVER COST
RESTROOMS AT CITY HALL
LANDSCAPING ON N.W. 20 STREET - NEW TREE
PLANTINGS ON N.W. 20 STREET
MEETING DATE:
SEPTEMBER 27, 1974
COMMISSION RETRIEVAL
ACTION CODE NO._
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R-74-1053 74-105a
R-74-1054 74-105=-
R-74-1055 74-105'
R-74-1056 74-105
R-74-1059 74-105
R-74-1060 74-106
R-74-1061 74-106
R-74-1062 74-106
R-74-1063 74-106
R-74-1064 74-10
R-74-1065
R-74-1066
R-74-1067
R-74-1068
R-74-1069
74-10
74-10
74-10
74-10
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RENTAL FEE MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM BY
MIAMI JACKSON HIGH SCHOOL
FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM FOR
WOMAN'S CANCER ASSOCIATION
DISMISSING THE APPEAL OF ALBERT J.
SCHIFFAUER VS. P.W. ANDREWS-CASE NO.
74-8519
DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS -CITY ATTORNEY
TO DEFEND ANY SUIT BROUGHT OF DAMAGES
ARISING OUT OF SAID CLAIMS
SUM OF $1,534.00 FROM CONTINGENCY FUND TO
PAY PURCHASE OF SERVICE AWARDS TO CITY
EMPLOYEES
PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL $167,328.10 FROM
ACCOUNT "POLICE HEADQUARTERS BOND FUND"
ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES-PANCOAST
ARCHITECTS, ET AL
AWARD BID-GOODWIN,INC.-GLENROYAL SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5374 C
AWARD BID-CUYAHOGA WRECKING CORPORATION-
AFRICAN SQUARE PROPERTY DEMOLITION
AWARD BID -FURNISHING FERTILIZERS FOR USE
OF DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
ACCEPT BIDS -GAME TABLES -DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION
ACCEPT BID -NORTH AMERICAN LIFE AND CASUALTY
COMPANY -INSURANCE FOR CITY OF MIAMI
EMPLOYEES
ACCEPT BID-CHILDSCAPES COMPANY
MODEL DAY CARE CENTERS
PROFESSIONAL APPRAISAL-MIAMI-DADE WATER
AND SEWER-VIRGINIA KEY
APPLICATIONS TRANSFER OF CERTIFICATES
OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY
APPOINTING MONNA LIGHTE AND DOLLY MC
INTYRE-MEMBERS DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT
GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE
REQUESTING STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT
OF POLLUTION TO WITHHOLD ISSUANCE
TO THE MIAMI DADE WATER AUTHORITY-
BISCAYNE BAY INSTALLATION
ERNIE SEILER FOR MEMBERSHIP OF COLLEGE
FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME
R-74-1070
R-74-1071
R-74-1072
R-74-1073
R-74-1074
R-74-1075
R-74-1076
R-74-1077
R-74-1078
R-74-1079
R-74-1080
R-74-1081
R-74-1083
R-74-1084
M-74-1088
R-74-1091
R-74-1092
74-1070
74-1071
74-1072
74-1073
74-1074
74-1075
74-1076
74-1077
74-1078
74-1079
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COCONUT GROVE BANK -BUILDING PERMIT -
DRIVE -IN TELLER
COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION,INC- ASSISTANCE
IN CONNECTION WITH WITH COCONUT GROVE
ARTS FESTIVAL
FREE USE SHELL CITY PARKING LOT -
JUNIOR NAVAL CADETS OF AMERICA
R-74-1093
R• 74-1094
R-74-1095
74-1093
74-1094
74-1095