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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 1974
OF MEETING HELD ON
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
H. D. SOUTHERN
CITY CLERK
RALPH G. ONGIE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
ITEM NO. SUBJECT
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO
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7.
REQUEST FOR CHANGE OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION
Block 5-Coppingers Tropical Gardens
RECEIVE SEALED BIDS - C & S
Glenroyal Sanitary Sewer Improvement SR-5374
REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
Tract 1, Lots 5, 6, 7, 8 - Block 3
Larsh Subdivision
PERSONAL APPEARANCE -
Representatives of Community Relations Board
PERSONAL APPEARANCE
Elizabeth Virrick regarding the
Coconut Grove Family Clinic
AIRPORT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT -Proposed Ordin-
ance amendments=
APPROVAL OF MODIFICATION -Central Shopping
Plaza - Bank & Office Structure etc.
PROCLAMATIONS, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION,
PLAQUES
9. GRANT PERMISSION FOR 2 YEARS - LOT 12
C&I PEACOCK AMD-3405 Main Highway for
parking lot
10. GRANT PERMISSION TO INCLUDE Financial Federal
Savings & loan - AIRPARK PLAZA
11.
VARIANCE - LOTS 20, 21, 22 - BLOCK 4
Railroad Shops -Interschool Tract for Church
241 N. W. 54th Street
12. CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION Se'ly 180'
LOTS 19, 20, 21 - Block "A"
"Flagler Mary Brickell"
13. ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS - SPECIAL PLANNED DEV-
ELOPMENT DISTRICTS
14. ORDINANCE AMENDMENT- SITE AND DEVELOPMENT
PLAN APPROVAL
15. CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION - LOTS 5 thru 12
BLOCK 1 - FLORAL PARK FIRST AMENDED
16. OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED WORK
Reid -Acres Highway Improvement H-4349
DISCUSSION
74-967
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
MOT.74-968
DISCUSSED &
DEFERRED
RES.NO.
74-970
RES. NO.
74-973
R-74-974
R-74-975
oRD. 8297
DEFERRED
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FIRST
READING
ORD. 8298
RES.74-976
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ITEM NO,
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
SUBJECT
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - Representatives of
Coconut Grove Association Inc. to discuss
Coconut Grove Arts Festival in 1975
JOSE MARTI BASEBALL LEAGUE- Request for free
use of Miami Baseball Stadium on WED,FRI
thru DEC.
ESTABLISH RESERVE - $5,500,000 TO SUPPLEMENT
FUNDS FOR AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
FOR POLICE IMPROVEMENTS
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - DOWNTOWN GOVERNMENT
CENTER BUILDINGS - DEMOLITION 1973
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - Roberto Clemente
Park - RESURFACING BASKETBALL COURTS 1974
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK -
Edison Park Teen Center - 1973
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK -
Western Drainage Project E-'30
PARKS AND RECREATIONAL BOND PROGRAM
District 45 - Parks proposed for central
area; accepting deed etc.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - John Barrett, Attorney
Court Appointed Receiver concerning the
foreclosure of Sailboat Key
RENEW ADVERTISING AND PUBLICITY AGREEMENT
Metro & City - Joint program for 1974-5
ACCEPT BID - 3-1250 GPM CUSTOM BUILT TOP
OF LINE MODEL PUMPERS WITH 5 MAN CANOPY
8. JOINT ADVERTISING AGREEMENT -Advertising and
Marketing Associates Inc.
Extension 2 years with Dade Co.
29. ACCEPT PLAT - Bay Club Subdivision
30. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - JEFFERSON HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT H-4350
31. DESIGNATE SIEGENDORF BICYCLE PATH as
recreation area and convey right of way deed
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO.
M-74-977
DISCUSSED
AND
DEFERRED
R-74-978
R-74-979
R-74-980
R-74-981
R-74-982
R-74-983
M-74-984
M-74-985
DISCUSSION
R-74-986
R-74-987
R-74-988
R-74-989
R-74-990
R-74-991
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MINUTES OF REGULAR METING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMIi FLORIDA
ITEM NO, SUBJECT
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO. PAGE NO
32. WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE
Abbott's Recycling Industries Inc.
33. DISCUSSION OF ESTABLISHMENT OF LOW COST AIR
SERVICE BETWEEN MIAMI AND JACKSONVILLE
34. APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE CITY OF
MIAMI COMMITTEE ON ECOLOGY AND
BEAUTIFICATION
35. SET TIME AND DATE FOR SEMI-ANNUAL PUBLIC
HEARING ON APPLICATIONS FOR TRANSFER OF
CERTIFICATES OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND
NECESSITY
36. APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO GENERAL
CULTURAL HISPANIC COMMITTEE
37. PROCLAIM POLICY OF CITY COMMISSION TO
ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN
Hispanic Heritage Week in Miami - 1974
38. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - Juana Rodriguez and
Pedro Rodriguez
39. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - Mona Ludwig
40. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - Bertha Levy and
Maurice I. Levy
41. PROVIDE FOR FEES TO BE CHARGED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH PROVISIONS OF ANNUAL CERTIFICATE OF
USE RENEWAL ORDINANCE
42. CONFIRM ACTION OF THE CITtt MANAGER IN THE
SUBMISSION OF A STATE GRANT APPLICATION TO
INITIATE PROGRAM FOR COMMUNITY
DAY CARE SERVICES
43. CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN THE
SUBMISSION OF A STATE GRANT APPLICATION
TO INITIATE PROGRAM FOR
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR HANDICAPPED
44. PURCHASE BY NEGOTIATION IN LIEU OF
CONDEMNATION - PARCEL No. E-7095.4
and PARCEL No. E-7095.5
45, WAIVE RENTAL FEE- MIAMI STADIUM
Trustees of Christian Hospital Benefit
Performance -Save Christian Hospital Fund
R-74-992
M-74-993
R-74-994
R-74-995
R-74-996
R-74-997
R-74-998
R-74-999
R-74-1000
FIRST
READING
R-74-1001
R-74-1002
R-74-1003
R-74-1004
R-74-1005
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MINUTES OF REGULAR METING
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ITEM NO.1 SUBJECT
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO
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ISSUE PURCHASE ORDER AND CONFIRM ACTION of
CITY MANAGER FOR REPAIR TO 3 ELEVATORS AT
THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF THE CITY MGR.
ISSUE PURCHASE ORDER FOR PLAYGROUND EQUP.
PAY DEPARTMENT OF LABOR $25,327.40 AS FULL
REPAYMENT OF ALLEGED DISCREPENCIES IN
EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS UNDER EMERGENCY
EMPLOYMENT ACT
CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN MODIFYING
AGREEMENT FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AFTER -SCHOOL C
DEMONSTRATION CENTERS
AWARD BID - SILVER BLUFF PARK DEVELOPMENT
FENCING
AWARD BID - LUMMUS PARK SIIUFFLEBOARD COURT
RESURFACING - 1974
AWARD BID
AWARD BID
- ONE 76' REEL MOWER
- LUBRICATION EQUIPMENT
GRANT PERMISSION TO JUNIOR NAVAL CADETS OF
AMERICA - LODGE 96 AND NEW LIFE LODGE 504
FOR FUND RAISING CARNIVAL !AT SHELL CITY PAR-
KING LOT
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT FOR COORDINATOR'FOR THE
MIAMI SERVICE PROGRAM FOR THE ELDERLY
NOMINATION OF 3 INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON
INTER AMERICAN CENTER AUTHORITY BOARD
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF
$8,025.50 -
International Folk Festival Account
3-MONTH EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT
H. Leslie Quigg
OPPOSING ENACTMENT OF METRO PROPOSED
ORDINANCE- Community Antenna Television
Systems- County pre-emption of rights of
Municipalities
GRANT 6 MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
Lot 14 - BLOCK 91S-MIAMI HEIGHTS (529)
R-74-1006
R-74-1007
R-74-1008
1RE
R-74-1009
R-74-1010
R-74-1011
R-74-1012
R-74-1013
M-74-1014
M-74-1015
R-74-1016
ORD. 8299
R-74-1017
R-74-1018
R-74-1019
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MINUTES OF IEGULAR METING
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ITEM NO
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RESOLUTION NO. PAGE NO;
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GRANT 6 MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
LOT 11 - BLOCK 15S - MIDI B-41
GRANT 6 MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
TRACT A.T.P. 4898•-DOUGLAS GARDENS
Parking Spaces
GRANT 6 MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
A.T.P. TRACT 898- DOUGLAS GARDENS
Cond.Use of Construction of Addition
GRANT 6 MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
TRACT A.T.P. 4898 - DOUGLAS GARDENS
Off -Street Parking with 10' opening on N.E.
52nd Street
GRANT 6- MONTH EXTENSION OF CONDITIONAL USE
TENTATIVE PLAT - Tract 1 & 2 River Cove
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH MANPOWER PLANNING'COUNCIL
OF DADE & MONROE COUNTIES FOR PURPOSE OF
RECEIVING FUNDS TO OPERATE A MIAMI PUBLIC
SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
DIRECT CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE BY ANY
APPROPRIATE MEANS -
CITY OF MIAMI VS. MARJORIE E. WILSON ET.AL.
Parcel 7088.75-14
PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT -DEPUTY CITY MGR.
Positions in the unclassified service
WAIVE RENTAL FEE-MIAMI STADIUM
Miami -Dade Community College downtown campus
Basketball Practice Sessions
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE
Impounding of Vehicles
PROTECTION AND REMOVAL OF TREES-AMD.Ch.64
of the Code to extend scope of tree ord.
6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
Lots 8 thru 13 - Block 104S
BRICKELL ADD AND (8-113)
AUTHORIZE CITY MGR.TO EXTEND AGREEMENT
Emergency Employment
APPOINTMENT OF 5 PERSONS TO SERVE ON
Law Enforcement Communi yOutreach and
CAree,r Program 1 dvi4ory Boar'
74-1020
74-1021
74-1022
74-1023
R-74-1024
R-74-1025
R-74-1026
ORD.8300
R-74-1027
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
R-74-1028
R-74-1029
R-74-1029- JO
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
ITEM NO,
SUBJECT
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO
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COCONUT GROVE BANK «. Modification of.
Drive In Tellers
CENTRAL SHOPPING PLAZA MODIFICATIONS
REQUEST OF VICE PRESIDENT OF COCONUT GROVE
FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES TO FACILITATE
NEWLY PURCHASED COMPUTER BUILDING -
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL
DESIGNATE FIRMS AS 3 CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED
TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD DEV. PLAN
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH UNDERWOOD MARINE
CORP FOR PURPOSE OF EXECUTE 6 MOS LEASE FOR
CITY OWNED PROPERTY
EMPLOY- HANSEN AND COMPANY for professional
assistance in CITY OF MIAMI PENSION MATTERS
DESIGNATE 3 FIRMS IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE for
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
CHANGE OCTOBER 24 MEETING DATE TO BE HELD
IN THE AFTERNOON AT GRAPELAND HEIGHTS
SCHEDULE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR
SEPTEMBER 23, 1974 at 3 P.M.
BURLINGAME ISLAND
CHANGE DATE OF SECOND COMMISSION MEETING
STATUS OF CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS FOR
PROPERTY AT LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK
STATUS OF F.E.C. FILL PERMIT
M--74.103i
R-74-970
DISCUSSION
R-74-1032
R-74-1033
R-74-1034
R-74-1035
R-74-1036
R-74-1037
R-74-1038
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
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Adjournment
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MINUTES or REGULAR MEET/NO OP THE
CITY COMMISSION OP MiAMI , PLORXDA
On the 12th day of September, 1974, the City Comieission
of Miami, Florida met at its regular meeting place in said city
in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9;10 o'clock A.M.
by Mayor Maurice A Ferre with the following members of Om
Commission present:
Also present:
Commissioner J.L. Plummer
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
P.W. Andrews, City Manager
Andrei, P. Crouch, Asst. City Manager
John S. Lloyd, City Attorney
B.D. Southern, City Clerk
Ralph G. Ongie, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who then
led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
On motion of Mr. Plumper, seconded by Mr. Reboso,
it was unanimously agreed to waive the reading of the minutes
of the previous meeting.
1. REI EST TO CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ALL OF BLOCK 5
Mayor Perre: Are the applicants here on this item?
Unidentified person: Yes, your honor, ----
Mayor Ferre: Sow many objectors are here on this item?
Will you please stand?
Unidentified person: 1 represent 40 objectors.
Mayor Ferre: All right, you can sit down now, thank you.
How many wish to speak on this item? Please raise you hands.
If you don't raise your and I will not recognize you later on.
If you have any doubts about it, raise you hand. Seven,
would one of you go down and get the names.
Mr..Plusmer: Mr. Mayor, may I ask for the sake of brevity,
are these same people here in objection to the fourth item, which
'is aroudd the corner from it. Are you also here for the same item?
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time, we have a long agenda,
and I hope you bear with us, and out of the generosity of your
heart recognize that we cannot have meetings with open ends, and
everybody talk for 15 or 20 minutes, because if that were to happen,
we would be here for a couple of burs. You can see by the agenda
it is a long meeting so I um going to limit the speakers to 3 minutes
on this side. I allocate 20 minutes to each side, and you divide it.
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IS that better?
Unidentified person: That is better.
Mayor Ferre: Will you act as
Unidentified person: I'll be the first speaker for this
aide.
coordinator?
Mayor Ferre: If you would sir, act as coordinator and
see who will be the speakers on your side, and if you need
an extra five minutes, I'll be happy to grant that. I will
have to grant the other wide the same time.
,Mr. Robert Rorner: My name is Robert Korner, I am an
attorney representing the subject property.
Mayor Ferre: would you speak into the microphone a
little more?
Mr. Korner: My name is Robert Rorner, Attorney of
record for the owners in the application on the property
shown in yellow on the plot plan sketch.
The owners of this property have been attempting
to develop it for a very long time. You will see the application
was originally made over two years ago. We came before this
Commission at that time and were told that rather than act
on it at that time, there was a river study being made and
upon conclusion of that river study, this matter should
properly come back before the Planning Board and the City
Commission. Little did we know then that the river study
would be so long in its development. To date, it has not
been finalized and we have been seriously hampered in the
development of this property by waiting,as you all know the
mortgage market and the avilability of finances have made this
an extremely difficult project at best at this time. We are
requesting that the C-4 property be rezoned to R-4, or in the
alternative that the southerly 387 ft. of the site be rezoned
to R-4, and I will explain why we would appreciate that
delineation of zoning in just a minute.
The re -development of )liami River has not proceeded with
any great speed and we feed the project that we propose on this
site will enhance the Miami River and will in effect, as much
as one project can, speed the re -habilitation of the Miami River.
The proposed zoning classification for the Miami River will be
W-CR. W-CR is being developed by your planning department with
the idea that there would be a type of apartment and marine
oriented recreational uses encouraged on the Miami River. The
proposal we have, accomplishes just that.
This model of the project shows this being Miami River
Drive, these being apartment buildings,(indicating) and this
being a restaurant adjacent to the river.
As you can see, the project is a low -profile type of
apartment development. It is something that was developed
after a great deal of planning and conferences with the Planning
Department and with architects, --landscape and construction archi-
tects, ---the proposal would have 99 units and would cover approx-
imately 28% of the residential portion of the site. The restaurant
along the river would be of wharfy design, one that would be an
asset both to the people using the restaurant and also people using
the river, it would be attractive and it is a use that is both
needed and desirable for the Miami River. The present C-4 zoning
permits that use, does not permit the apartment use that would
be supplemented by the restaurant. The owners have spent a great
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deal of money in developing a design that would take into account
the existing landscaping on this site. This was formerly the
Tropical Paradise property, it has beautiful trees and landscaping,
it has been cleared to the extent necessary to build this project.
Much of the landscaping has been left, as much of it as was possible.
The recommendation of the Planning Department two yearn ago when
this matter first came befoze you was for approval. Since that time
they have changed their reccmmendation, and now they recommend
denial but I would like to Lead to you their recommendation in
its entirety because 1 think you will realize that what they are
really saying is they like the project but they don't like the
method by which we are asking for approval. They would prefer
that this be handled as a planned unit development project,
accomplishing the same type of project. The present recommendation
is that in spite of the uniquie environmental and locational
features possessed by this site, and the applicant's exemplary
plans for its development. The requested application should be
denied since it would not provide the community for the necessary
safeguards to assure its development in accordance with plans.
In the interest of promoting and encouraging the unity of development
incorporating quality design with a hammock -like site. we recommend
the application be processed under the provision of the Planned
Area Development ordinance. while we have not had a full opportunity
to evaluate the project from the standpoint of the criteria pro-
cedures and standards of the Planned Area Dev. provisions, the
applicant's proposed plans provide less density than allowed
in R-4 district provisiona.Moreover the scale and site planning
of the plan reveal an extraordinary effort to careful control
its development with :minimums loss to vegetation and existing
land forms. The reason of course, that this was not originally
applied for under a P.A.D. because there was no such thing two
years ago when this application was originally made. The owners
need the approval of, to R-4 for this site or part of the site,
so they can proceed with a construction of apartments that would
a credit to our community, and to them. If the entire site were
zoned C-1 or C-2 this would also permit the development as
planned. The requirement that there be adequate safeguards in
control over the development of the property, I think are more
than adequately met by the site plan, the site development
approval requirements. This is on the river and as such, the
site plan would have to be approved by your Planning Dept. an4
i feel that gives the public the necessary safeguard that P.A.D.
would otherwise be providing.
There has been a great deal said about the inadequacy of
the sewer system serving this site, and I understand that the
existing sewer although it is fairly new, is inadequate to serve
the site. We would suggest first of all, if it is inadequate,we
will simply have to make arrangements to handle the sewerage in
some other way that doesn't create a problem. The problem with
the sewer that really is extremely irritating and possible for
me to understand, is under C-4 we are permitted to put into this
property a building having a floor area ratio of 2.0. Under R-4
we will be limited to a floor area ratio of 1.0. What this means
is, that we are permitted to put in twice as big a building under
the existing zoning than we would be permitted to put under the
proposed zoning. The sewer department tells us that they would
provide the necessary sewer facility for C-4 use, and what we
are really doing is asking for a facility that would use less
than one-half the capacity that the C-4 would use. It is impossible
for me to understand why they can provide sewerage for an office
building, a shopping area, a motel or hospital but they cannot
provide it for an apartment when in reality the apartment would
use only a fraction of the capacity that would these other C-4
WIMP use.
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Mr. Korner: The Miami Dade Water and Sower Authority
has a rather lenghty schedule of daily rated gallonage* for
various occupancies. Mot wishing to belabor the point , it
appears clear that based upon that schedule which I would
like to submit to the Commission, we would be using about
one third of the capacity as we would under a C'4 use.
Rev. Gibson: I don't hear too ww.11 sometimes. Did you
say that presently you, ----under the present zoning you could
build a building that would. -----
Mr. Korner: Under the present
to build offices, stores,
Rev. Gibson: No, I don't want
that triggered my mind is, you said
what you are doing. is the argument
the usage of the sewers.
Mr. Korner: That is correct.
C-4 zoning we are permitted
to hear that. The thing
one of the reasons, against
that, this would affect
Rev. Gibson: All right, if we do what you are asking us
to do, you are saying the constraint will be. ----we would be
able to use half rather than the whole, meaning 50%,--it would
be reduced to 50% over 100%, is that what you are telling me?
Mr. Korner: That is correct.
Rev. Gibson: I hear what you are saying.
Mr. Korner: In addition to that we would assure the
Commission that if the sewer is inadequate, we would provide
our own facility which is what is required anywhere, where
the *ewer is inadequate. The sewer is not old, it_3s only a
couple of years old, I am not sure about its capacity, but
your public works department has indicated that the capacity of
the sewers is over -taxed.,
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Southern, would you indicate when he
has 10 Minutes left.
Mr. Southern City Clerk: He has 9 minutes left.
Mayor Ferre: When he has 3 minutes left you'd better
let his know.
Mr. Korner: C-4 zoning in the City of Miami is one
of the most liberal zoning classification that we have. As
you can see from this map• the area indicated in the crossed
red area, this is the only C-4 area in the area. The nearest
C-4 is over here at the shopping center on 22nd.
Mayor Ferre: How wide is that lot?
Mt. Kerner: The lot is 209 ft. wide in the east -west
direction. The lot measures 462 ft. from River Drive to the
river on one side, and 624 ft. on the other side. It comprises
just under 3 acres. It is one of the few large vacant remaining
in this area for development, and this is one of the reasons
we feel it be developed with something that is a credit both
to the owners and the community. The property immediately
east is a hospital and it is zoned R-4. The property immediately
south is zoned R-4. The property immediately west is zoned
waterfront industrial. We feel that the R-4 zoning is compatible
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with everything in the neighborhood,eompatible with neighborhood
itself, and will actually be a tremendous improvement over the
existing C-4 classification. The owner here is in effect asking
for a toning roll -back from C-4 to R-4, limiting his overall
utility of the property to about 50% of that which is permitted
under C-4. The bulk of the building would be considerably re-
duced, the lot coverage set -backs and other requirements will
be more desirable, will be more restrictive against the property.
and provide a better development of the property in the present
C-4 zoning. I think with those things in mind, this owner has
not only demonstrated a desire to do something that is worth
while but it is also fully demonstrated his desire to build a
project that is both compatible with the area and one that will
be a credit to all of us, including the owner. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, sir, your name and address for
the redo rd.
Mr. John Massey: My name is John Massey, 1810 N.W. South
River Drive, Honorable Mayor and Commissioners. you have been
doing an excellent job in trying to improve and preserve the
beauty of the Miami River waterfront, for the use and enjoyment
of tourist, still our number one industry, and the many citizens
of Miami. I have lived here for 50 years and this is still the
best place in the world to live. I have traveled throughout the
world and I always come back here. Today I represent 40,or 70%
out of a possible 56 homeowners, --I have 49 signatures, in the
affected area, which is bounded on the north by the 4iami River,
on the south by the 836 expressway, on the west by N.N. 22nd
Avenue, and a very busy Latin shopping center and apartment
house, and on the east by N.N. 17th Avenue which is practically
impossible to enter or exit from N.W. llth street. I am sure
many of you folks have come across 17th Avenue bridge and cut
in that area yourself to try to get over to 22nd. We have had
three occasions when fire trucks could not get through that
area. Out of the 16 people that did not sign the petitions
I have, 6 are in rental units, 8 were out of town, one was
Mr. Kagan, and the other was the owner of the monstrosity called
a condominium, that was recently completed at N.W. 19th Avenue,
and N.N. South River Drive across from Mr. Kegan's junk yard.
I realize you people are familiar with the previous zoning
attempts and transactions. I think Mt. Korner has made a slight
mistake in some of his statements here, so I would like b
review this with you.
On May 8, 1972 Mr. Korner appeared before the Zoning
Board in behalf of Mr. Kagan. The Zoning Board recommended a
rezoning to R-3, low density multiple, not R-4. Maybe I mis-heard
him when he said R-4 a while ago, but it is actually R-3. On
June 15, 1972 an appeal was made to the City Commission by Mr.
Korner in behalf of Mr. Robert Jimenez, not Mr. Kegan, to try
to get the zoning changed to R-4. The City Commission referred
the matter back to the zoning Board,on June 17, 1974 Mr. Korner
again appeared before the Zoning Board with architectural renderings
and models showing the proposed, 100 plus or minus, ----he says
99 apartment units, which you saw the beautiful model here, I
too am an engineer, architect, and I have done many things like
this myself. After extensive discussion and debate from property
owners, the Zoning Board on a 7 to 0 vote deferred action pending
a written report on the availability of sewers. The Board also
suggested that Mr. Korner could file a P.A.D. for consideration.
This could possibly lock the construction and exact plans. R-4
zoning as such, without an approved P.A.D. would permit the owner
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to build up to a 20 atofy apartment and create a possible
Concrete jungle in a place of natural beauty. At that time
lfr. corner made a passionate plea for the Zoning Board to
make a negative recommendation to you the City Commission, ----
quote. Mr. Korner---"there is an old adage in the law that
justice delayed, is justice denied." .luatice for whom, Mr.
Kegan, 40 neighboring property owners, and the other residents
of Miami? On July 10. 1974 the Dept. of Public works informed
Mr. Korner and Mr. Simpson as follows: --The development of the
proposed 99 unit apartment building would generate more sewage
than our design allows. The sewer system does not have sufficient
capacity to serve this apartment building. Mr. Korner says other
arrangements can be made. Many of you have been near on -site
sewage disposal or at one time he suggested the possibility
of putting a holding basin. Folks, this is one big cesspool: I
have used a cesspool at some times in my life in Florida, but
I would sure hate to do that again. Possibly in the new develop-
ment that they have they will have a coordinator for bath and
toilet flushing. Or maybe we could do like some cities in the
north, like the used to do here, just dump the sewage in the
river.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Massey, excuse me, I want to remind you
have taken up 5 minutes of the 20 minutes allocated to your
side.
Mr. Massey: I am closing now. On July 15 or 16, Mr. Korner
once again petitioned for a change from C-4 to R-4 zoning, no
P.A.D. study was submitted for approval. The vote was 7 to 0
for denial of the zoning change.
Now, Honorable Mayor and Commissioners, the monkey has
been passed back to you. Based on the lack of adequate sanitary
facilities, lack of adequate ingress and egress, your Planning
Department's recommendation, your Zoning Department's recommendation,
and the petitions and recommendations of 70% of the possibly
affected property owners, we appeal to your good civic judgement
to deny the petition from C-4 to R-4. Bach of us in business
at some times makes an investment from which we cannot obtain
our anticipated profits. Sometimes we even lose money. In order
to keep Mr. Kagan from losing money, 70% of the property owners
would like to recommend that the City of Miami consider purchasing
this property from Mr. Kegan as a future park. This way the
river could be maintained, enhanced and enjoyed by many.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: How much time have we left?
Mr. Southern, City Clerk:---14 minutes.
Mayor Ferro: Stop the clock while the speaker comes up.
Mrs. Brenda Halessl am Mrs. Brenda Hales, 1901 N.W. 14th
Street. Let me say I am not good at speaking. I am representing
some of my neighbors. I have lots 20 and 21, my home is built
on those two lots. The main thing that upsets me is the idea
of a restaurant, the apartment house does not bother me that
much. I think it will be very beautiful. It has not been
very pretty across there, but as you can see, I am right there
looking at it, and my back yard is where we live.
Mayor Ferro: Are you saying if they didn't have a restaurant
then you wouldn't object.
Mrs. dales: I would have no objections, and i think I
can speak for the lady at the next three lots down.
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Mr..Olumner: Mr. Mayor I think we had better. so we don't
have a law suit, Mr. Lloyd I think you had better inform these
people of the new state law that says before a Commission such
as this, you cannot represent anyone but yourself, only an
attorney.only an attorney can represent someone else. You
can surrender petitions, but you can only speak for yourself.
Mayor Ferre: So we get our procedures straight, we
have a new toy here, see these little lights, we have a
clock, because what has been happening in the past, is that
we suppose to start at 9 o'clock, and it is a 10 or 15 minute
item like this one, and it lasts an hour, then we end up
working here till 10:00 o'clock at night, and sometimes work
right through lunch and have a sandwich right up here, and
in fairness to the public and the Commission, we have put
these time mechanisms to try to speed things up and allocate
time to these issues. The way we are going to do it, whenever
a Commissioner asks a question, or some legal advice sought,
or the Manager or someone other than the speaker, you stop
the clock because that is not fair to the speaker. And that
would be true of course to the other side.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Simpson would you point to the
residents lady, ----the speaker, ----she is across the
channel.
Mr. Plummer: She is an objector, and she is objecting
to the restaurant, so I think it is reasonably right.
Mayor Ferre: We understand, and will take that into
account.
Mrs. Bales: I want to say the restaurant is the one
think I objected to. It is right there in my back yard.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
Mrs. Gordon: May I make a statement for the information
of the objectors. C-4 zoning permits restaurants as I under-
stand it. Am I right Mr. Acton, ---will you answer the question?
Mr. Acton: Well, no it does not permit restaurants as
proposed but it does permit hotels, ----
Mrs. Gordon: I didn't say as proposed, but in the
broad category.
Mr. Acton:----right,as an accessory use as a hotel, --
Mayor Ferre: The answer is yes, Mr. Acton, C-4 does
permit restaurants. Yes, or No, does C-4 allow restaurants?
Mr. Acton: As a conditional use, yes.
Mr. Simpson: Yes, C-4 does permit a restaurant.
Mayor Ferre: Next speaker, ----Ann Brown. How much time
do we have left.
Mr. Ongie, Asst. City Clerk:---12 minutes, ----
Mayor Ferre: Will you keep that into account as you
speak.
Ann Brown: Thi• is going to be very brief. My name is
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Ann Brown, block 28, 2000 I.W. 13th Street. 2 just want to
say I like living in Miami, I like living on the water, 1
think it is time this town started thinking about quality
instead 6f quantity. The only way 1 would 4rprove,--have)
any approval of a zoning change on this property, which
is a beautiful piece of property, would be if these people
would go with P.A.D. where they could be locked in on what
they are going to do. We have no guarantees that they are not
going in there and plow,ail thcme trees down, and put a 20
story building. I just want some guarantees. 1 don't think
the traffic can handle it, and 1 don't think the sewage can
handle it. It is a bag of worms to get through that street
right now. as it is. If you put in 100 units it will be
incredible. Thank you very much.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I compliment you sir, for trying
to implement a system, and I am not going to force it now.
but Mr. Mayor you made a statement before, if you don't
sign your name you are not going to speak. I hope from this
item on you will enforce that law, and hold to it.
Jennie Howard: Thank you, I am Jennie Howard. 1121 N.W.
18th Place, I am almost at the corner, where this project
will be initiated. I almost can't get out of my street now
to go to work because of the traffic. The traffic funnels
from 27th avenue to 17th Street, with the addition of 99
more families and all their cars, wo will never get out of
our street to go to work.
Mayor Terre: Thank you very much. Are there questions
from the Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I would like to ask Bob a question.
Why didn't you go the route .3f P.A.D.?
Mr. Corner: Well, originally, there was no such thing
as P.A.D.
Mr. Plummer: But there is now.
Mr. Korner: We have less than 3 acres. P A.D. requires
3 acres . We were not told until 18 months,---20 months later,
that maybe an exception could be made for the 3 acre requirement.
Also, we have spent a great deal of time and effort on the plans
and in the application, and we would like not to scrap it, and
start over again. Jtist the application fee itself would cost
several thousand dollars, as well as delaying it about 6 to 9
months, and after all the delay to this point, we felt both
time and money required us to go forward with our R-4, and
also the fact that now there is a site development approval
required. We felt that would supplant the otherwise P.A.D.
approach. Whe4' we want to do is good, and we want to work
something out that we can have some assurance that we can go
forward with. This is our reason for not backing up and starting
all over again.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Simpson, if he were to withdraw this
item, or defer it, could he alter it without further fees
to a P.A.D.
Mr. Simpson: No, sirr --
Rev. Gibson; What was the question J.L.
Mr. Plummer: If he were to withdraw this item today or
defer it, could he change to a P.A.D. without further fees?
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Mr..Plu[mmer: That was the question and the answer was
ice►. Dave, one final question, he said he cannot qualify for
a P.A.D. Is there any vehicle within that he could qualify
or is it a minimum of three acres?
Mt. Simpson: The ordinance states a minimum of three
acres, but then it leaves an opening where the Planning
Dept. can evaluate this site, and arrive at a determination
that it is a unique site because of topography, or location
on the river. I can't say they would arrive at that decision,
but based upon their previous recommendation they deferred it.
Mr. Plummer: So there is en avenue, ---that conceivably..
he could come under a P.A.D.
Mr. Simpson: Yes, ----
NV. Acton: We had recommended to the applicant that he
pursue R-4, P.A.D.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask one other question, trying to
go every route we can. It is within the purview of this
Commission to give something less than the request. The
recommendation of the department is for something less than
the request. Is it within the legal framework of this Commission
today, to grant something less than what he is requesting?
Mr. Simpson: Mr. Plummer even though you have before you
a set of plans, and ----
Mr. Plummer: That means nothing.
Mr. Simpson: I know, but the purpose of a P.A.D. is to
evaluate the proposal under the P.A.D. making whatever modifications
that might be necessary. I don't know, you might ask Z. Acton
if they have pursued this particular proposal.
Mr. Plummer: I hope Mr. Acton has pursued it, if he has
recommended it.
Mr. Simpson: I would say that it should be subjected to
the proper advertisement and public hearing before such action
is taken.
Mr. Plummer: What I am trying to say Dave is this, there
is no question that Mr. Korner has been hemmed in by certain
things and studies that have been performed. I don't think that
he should be subjected to additional fees if this Commission
is trying to obtain a certain goal. This application cane 18
months ago I am told, all right, 24 months ago, and he has
been held up because of that kind of study and things of that
nature, and I don't think it right that if he choses to go
the P.A.D. that he should be subjected to additional fees.
Do you understand my question Dave? I don't want to confuse
you with the facts, -----
Mr. Simpson: What is the question?
Mr. Plummer: The question is, is it possible that since the
department has recommended P.A.D. on an R-4, that this item
could be deferred and this commission having the purview of
giving something less than the request, that he would not
have to pay additional fees. That is the question.
Mr. Simpson: Directed by this City Conmiission, yes, sir.
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Mt.. FluMmer: is it within the legal framework of what
the City Commission. --
Mks Simpson: 1 defer to the City Attorney.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell the objectors exactly what
is in the back of J.L.'s mind. That C-4 zoning that is
presently applied, could be just a complete ruination of
that neighborhood. You shake your head No, sir, but I have
to tell you I have seen it, we have witnesseed it, and it
can happen.
Mayor Ferre: I want to point out we are getting close
to 10:00 o'clock.
Mr. Lloyd: You want me to explain this?
Mr. Plummer: Just a simple Yes or No, and then if we
have to get to an explanation, go from there, ----yes or no.
Mr. Lloyd: We think there is a possible way that it
can be done.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Mrs. Gordon: The proposal that you have, how many
stories are those buildings.
Mk. Korner: much of the parking is under ground and
the buildings themselves are three levels above the under
ground parking, it is four levels, but one level is under
ground, three levels above grade.
Mrs. Gordon: And the restaurant portion you are referring
to, where would that be located?
NW. Korner: That is located next to the water right on
the river, and :it is the structure at this end of it.
Mrs. Gordon: Another thing that is interesting to me,
is what is your timetable on development?
Mr. Korner: Now we are two years behind schedule.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't mean that, if you were to receive
this granting, what would be your timetable for development?
Mr. Korner: We have lost our committmente and financing,
we will have to start over again. I can't give you a tiaas,we
have to start over again with financingat this point, and
as you know that can be a problem in today's market.
Mr. Plummer: Nr. Mayor just for the record, let it
reflect that the Manager informs me that what could be done
is that the fees that they have already paid would be applied
to any additional fee if'they applied under the P.A.D. if
it is either withdrawn or deferred. It they take a denial
they start all over.
Mr. Massey: Sven if they submit the P.A.D. we still
have not resolved the traffic situation or the sewer problem
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SEP 121974
unless there are plena for the City to put a tunnel under
the river, --I think this is not a very adequate project
either way. Thank yot..
Mrs. cordons Am 1 wrong, --I'd like to ask of the
Department. as far as the sewer problem, those are situations
that they would have to get approval, wouldn't they from
the authorities who deal with pollution control, is that
right? We are not really dealing with that matter. We
don't issue permits for the pollution control.
Mr. Massey: I realize that Mrs. Gordon, but you already
have a document by your planning committee that says they are
not adequate. We pay these people to do things like that.
Rev: Gibson: Mr. Mayor, what really bothers me is what
I heard this man say earlier. Did you say you were an engineer?
Mr. Massey: Yes, I am, ---
Rev. Gibson: Okay, listen, the man says under the
present zoning, he could build 100%. What he is asking us
to do, is in lieu of 100%, 50%, you agree with that?
Mr. Massey: Actually some of his statements, ----
Rev. Gibson: No, no, I am not worried about some of
his statements , I want to be specific. He says 50%r---
he wants 50%, under the law he could build 100%. Tell me,
respond to that.
Mr. Massey: Re could build a commercial building
there but he cannot rent a commercial building. Let's br
practical about it.
• Rev. Gibson: All right what are you asking us to do,
to confiscate his property?
Mr. Massey: All I am asking sir, is you consider the
R-3 zoning that was originally suggested by the zoning
Board, two years ago, or possibly consider as I said,the
purchase of the property as a park. The 99 units cannot
be handled. This what they say.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Acton, does R-3A zoning permit this
type of development with regsrd to the combination of use?
•
Mc. Acton: No.
Mrs. Gordon: Dam R-3A permit this kind of development
for the apartment portion only?
Mr. Acton: Ro, the R-3A is restricted at the present time
to a two-story height limitation ,---- two stories with parking
underneath. What Mr. Korner said is that they are planning on
3 story buildings with parking underneath. Let me explain to
the Commission that one of the objectives the department has
in any kind of development on this site would be the preservation
of the beautiful hammock -like setting, which means if you apply
R•3 for instance, the lot coverage, which I believe is restricted
to 30%, would probably wind up, because of the fact, the height
also is restricted to two stories, would mean that much of the
site would have to be destroyed to put in the necessary parking.
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Mr. Acton: The R-4 allows more latitude in terms of
More height.
Mrs. Gordon: I understand that, but we have no way that
I know of to control this development. 1 personally, I speak
for myself, and I'd like to tell all the objectors, I cannot
sec C-4 zoning remaining in that area, because it would permit
paint and body shops, muffler shops, garages, all kinds of
obnoxious uses, and let me say that I personally would like
to see the river up -graded. I would like to see our river
comparable to San Antonio where I visited about four months
ago. It is beautiful, people dine on the waterfront, it is
terraced, it is lovely. People like myself coming from here
and seeing the kind of riverfront we have, are just delighted.
Unless be begin somewhere to up -grade the river, we are going
to get nowhere.
Mayor Ferre: I agree, let's go.
Mrs. Gordon: I am not saying
because I am not really sure what
be, but I feel we have to step in
in zoning, and put some controls
I approve of his development
his development is going to
the direction of a change
on it.
Mr. Korner: To Met the :record straight. I did not
appear at the Planning Board'meeting of May 8th, the Planning
Department at that meeting did recommend approval of R-4, the
Planning Board recommended to the Commission approval of R-3,
but the Planning Department recommendation was approval at
that time. I would suggest that the two real objections that
seem to be made here, one is sewer and the other is traffic,
in both cases the proposed development and the proposed
rezoning to R-4 would reduce the sewer requirements and would
reduce to a small fraction, reduce the traffic requirements.
Many of the uses permitted in C-4 would have tremendous traffic
requirements and we feel the R-4 would certainly limit that.
As far as Mrs. Hales request that a restaurant not go there
rezoning it to R-4 would eliminate a restaurant the present
C-4 zoning does permit a restaurant, in closing we would ask
the property be rezoned to R-4 with site plan approval as is
now required on properties adjacent to the river.
Mrs. Gordon: I wanted to say something to Mr. Korner ,
the site plan approval concept that you say is not the same
as the PUD, because in the PUD we can tell vJu what changes
we want and the kind of development we need, but under the
site plan approval of riverfront property it is not quite
the same thing. Mr. Acton would you please explain the
difference so people, ----
Mayor Ferre: Not now, Rose,
Mrs. Gordon: It will only take a minutes, but it is
important to clarify the point.
Mayor Ferrel You clarify it after we have made a motion
one way or the other, if you would pleaee, Mr. Acton. I am
sure he knows what it is, you clarify it later on. We have
to move on. Let's make the motions, whatever they may be.
Mrs. Gordon: The motion I'd entertain at this point
is a deferment, and get this thing clarified.
Mayor Ferre: Thera is a motion and second to defer.
Further discussion on this item. Do you understand the intent?
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Mayor Ferre: You don't understand? The intent is, that
this thing is not going to be approved as I rea3 it. what
the intent is for you to go, to a P.A.D. approach to this thing
Where the department will have more control on what you are
going to end up with. Mrs. Gnedon I think, spoke the consensus
of this Commission, and that is, that the property is not going
to remain C-4 and the best use for it would be in some sort of
residential beautified improved way, but not on an open end
deal. Is that clear? Any objections to what I said? We have
a motion and second. call the roll.
Thereupon a motion to defer the matter was introduced
by Mrs. Gordon, sego nded by Mr. Plummer, and was passed and
adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
2, RECEIVE SEALED BIDS - GLEN ROYAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
S R 5374-AND SR-5374-S
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion to received the bids?
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mrs.
Gordon who moved its adoption:
LOTION NO. 74-967
:A MOTION TO RECEIVE SEALED BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF GLENROYAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5374-C
(CENTERLINE SEWER) AND SR-5374-S (SIDELINE SEWER)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES:Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES:
None.
Bids were received from the following: Goodwin, Inc.
Sullivan Long Hagerty, Paul N. Howard Co. BAC Construction Inc.
3, REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
TRACT 1 8 LOTS 5, -6, 7, .8 -BLACK 3 .- LARSH SUBDIVISION
Mayor Ferre: The applicants want this item postponed
or deferred. Are any objections to Item 4 present? Does
anybody have any objection that this be deferred?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I have no objection to it being
deferred if the deferment is going to accomplish something
and I would hope since this is a like circumstance to item 3,
the same stipulations would be given to Item 4 that they like-
wise would go and try to work with the department.
Mayor Ferre: It is going to take 5 or 10 minutes of
discussion so it will have to wait.
Unidentified person: That is the intention. We would go
back to the departments, work with the departments, my clients
who are absent today, which include Dr. Bernardo Benes and
Charles have indicated tha desire to do that.
Mayor Ferre: Fine. Doss anybody have any objection to that?
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Unidentified person: tt is very difficult for most of
WI to get down here to these meetings in the daytime, and many
of take a day of our vacation, but really don't want to spend
our vacation down here.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I think he makes a good point
and 1 think a point to the department and to the Manager.
that when these items come back up, they both come up at
the same time.
Victoria Seigler: My name is Victoria Seigler, i live
at 690 S. 3Sth Street, if you do defer it will you put
up notices of hearing again?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, of course, we do that.
Thereupon a notion to defer the item was introduced by
W. Plummmer, seconded by Rev. Gibson, and was passed and
adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboeo, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
4, PERSONAL APPEARANCE - REPRESENTATIVES OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS BOARD
Mr. Robert Simms: Thank you Mr. Mayor, as a humble
servant of the taxpayers of this community, I would yield
to those who have given their time to serve and make this
a better place for all of us, so if you will, sir i would
like to present Mr. Esteves, Rev. , Rev. Ferguson
with Mrs. Love who will present the C.R.B. 's concerns.
Member of Comm. Relations Board: I am
a member or the Community Relations Board, and we have come
as a special committee to present this statement which is
a modification of a previous plan that we had but we offer
this to City Council at this time. ---
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Member of Comm. Relations Board: --to the City Commission.
Our appearance here today has been modified by a discussion
this morning with Chief Garmire and with the City Manager.
Because of the continuing interest of.C.R.B. however we
feel it is imperative that our concern for law and order
especially as it relates to police conduct while on official
duty be registered with this Commission, today, we would
like for you to know that we are very much concerned with
the situations that exist around us. We wish further to say
that we support Chief Garmire and the efforts he is making
to develop a more sensitive response to a community that is
already polarized by its inherent, ---and we use this word
quite fully,--tri-ethnicity,---it wouldn't come,---tri-ethnicity
is what we are trying to say, and for those who might not under-
stand it, we do have a conglomerate community, with various
stripes of people who are concerned about the level of law
enforcement and its effects upon our ethnic groupings.
Thank you very much, sir, this is our statement for
the day, we recognize that it is not complete, we are not at
this time making any proposal or recommendation except we
would like for the Commission to know our interest is deep,
and we are pursuing with vigor whatever we can, as a Board
of this Metropolitan area, to see that changes are made in
this regard. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre:.All right. Reverend. Are there any questions
on the part of the members of the Commission.
Mr, Plummer: Mr. Mayor I concur with the type of reasoning
that has just been proffered, that we all are concerned. I think
your statement today is within reason, I think we all are looking
to final outcome and we hope that nothing ever happens that some
good doesn't come out of, and I think this kind of reasoning
will only lead to a better community in which to live.
Rev. Gibson: I have some real musole problems. Just to
make a statement like that is not good enough for me. It
is a good statement but it doesn't say why you cane. There
must be an urgency why you are here so you want to say this
took place, we are not judgemental, ---I don't buy what you
said just so,
Member of Comm. Relations Board: We decided that we
would not make the kind of full statement that eventually
we can and will make. In the light of our conversation with
the Chief of Police, this morning, considerable interest
was given to the C.R.B.'s concern and our intended expression
but in the light of the sincere, genuine, and we believe
dedicated efforts of the Chief of Police. We have not made
any further statement at this time, but we can assure you
that we are very much exercised about the state of affairs
as they have been expressed to us by members of the community
especially the minority type groups and because of situations
that seemingly continuously occur as far as police conduct
is concerned.
Mayor Ferre: All right, sir, Mr. Lopez, is this subject
related to this item?
Mr. Aurelio Lopez: My name is Aurelio Lopez, I would
like to make a small statement that, ----I know why they
are here, they are in relation to things that happen in
the community, my community is really concerned with this
problem also, and we are talking about harassment and police
brutality in certain cases. I would like to make a statement,
what I would like to see done is, other groups get invited
to participate in this so we can also express our concern.
Mayor Ferre: I would recommend to Mr. Simms, that
you talk to Aurelio Lopez, and I think the C.R.B. is the
proper vehicle to voice all minorities' feelings on this.
I think it would be appropriate for Mr. Lopez and you to
get together, and I recommend that.
Mr. Simms: If I may sir, I surely accept that and I
am sure Mr. Lopez and Mr. Hosea Molinas and the Board can
work that out. I do want to indicate that our Board does
reflect the true composition of this Community. We do have
representatives from the Community of which Mr. Lopez. refers
on our Board. And T think in the true spirit of Rev.
statement we will come back to you at a later date.
Mayor Ferre: Wmuld anybody else like to make a statement
at this time? I would like to say the following, to all of
you, we have, like all major problems, --we have a two -fold
balanced problem when we have a left side and right side, --
there are always two sides to everything. We have a very
complicated situation. I don't think we are unique. There are
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a police departments in the U.S. that are plagued with increasing
crime. Crime is increasing at an alarming pace all over the
country. We saw the figues on Dade County last week. On the
other hand we have the internal problems that may arise from
time to time in the police department, for many, many reasons
not the lease of which the pressures that are placed upon
police departments because of increased crime and lack of
sufficient resources to combat the problem and the other
problems that we know that are inherent and come with this
whether they be morale problems etc.
I am speaking for myself, and I know I am speaking for
everyone on this Commission, and I know for the administration,
we are doing our very best, that we are very concerned, we don't
do things as quickly perhaps as we need to do them. The Manager
was requested to make a report from 30 to 60 days, on May•24th,
as you can tell by the calendar we are about 45 days beyond that
right now. We have been away during the month of August, these
are budget hearings and, the Manager has to struggle with them.
so we have had to be understanding, and the Manager has promised
me that soon as the budget hearings are over, we will address
ourselves to his report of which he was supposed to make from
30 to 60 days, ---we have not forgotten, this is not an unconscious
act, it is one of trying to be understanding and to solve all
the problems. It is also important to eliminate the concept
of of personalities. We don't want names attached to any of
these things. We are not after any one person, individuals are
not involved by names, just by functions, and by the relationship
as it has to the community over-all. There are lot of problems,
for example, and the Chief can talk to it if he wishes at this
point. Do you know that the black force in the Police dept. has
gone down over 15% this year. In other words we have gone down
from about 90 Black people on the police dept. to 70. Now there
may be good reasons for this, I am sure there are good reasons,
but these are all the things the Manager is going to have to
address himself to when he gives us his report. We have had
problems which i think are now worked out with an LEAA grant
for minorities. These are being ironed out. I think this is
going to be a very important factor. We are in the middle of
trying to work out a budget where we have to add 40 additional
people, and we have to find the money or cut that program out.
and these are the things we are wrestling with now. This Commission
is not unconscious of its responsibility and we well recognize
that when it all comes down to it, it isn't the Chief or the
Manager who holds the final responsibility, it is this Commission
who sate the policy and who decides the direction that this City
is to take. We are well aware of it, and we thank you very much
for your interest. We want you to be mindful, Mr. Sinus that we
are not unmindful of the problem.
Person:
Unidentified :Thank you very much Mr. Mayor, and we would like
for you to note for certain that C.R.B. is doing depth research
in these matters so that we too can present responsible attitudes
and proposals for the changing of these things for a favorable
situation. Thank you very much for hearing us.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Reverend.
Mr. Plummer: Before Mrs. Virrick, I'll just take one
minute, Mr. Manager I am going to recommend two things to
you, No. 1. you either get some filters for these lights
or 'take them out, and No. 2, the complaint of the T.V. people
I think can easily resolved if you take these podiums and turn
them completely sideways, facing each other. Their complaint was
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that they could not photograph the speaker at the podium, so
if you would have somebody move the podiums sideways, which
we cam still see the speaker. and their cameras Can see the
speaker, but for God's sake do something with these lights,
and 1 ask of the press, if you are not shooting, turn those
lights off, they are brutal. Mr. Crouch you have a switch
over there, I know you do, ---thank you.
Mayor Ferre:NYou mg waive to us when you want the
lights on. I know it is hard on you people with the cameras
but after 15 minutes un2er those lights, --today we will be
here 12 hours. Think about us a little bit.
5, PERSONAL APPEARANCE- ELIZAIJETH VI RRI CK RE COCONUT GROVE EAMLLY_ _CL_ JILC
Mrs. Elizabeth Virrick: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Charles Jackson.
the Administrator of the Family Health Clinic is going to
give you the background and then I'll say a few words at the
end if I may.
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Mr. Charles Jackson: I am Charles Jackson , Administrator
of the Coconut Grove Health Clinic. I'll be very brief, --of
course the background of the Clinic that started back in 1970
with concerned citizens of the Coconut Grove area concerning
health care services for Coconut Grove residents. Since that
time, ----and of course we were granted space in the Elizabeth
Virrick Park, a little building in the back. Since that time,
we have provided services for over 13,000 patient visits. However.
at this point in time, we are busting out of the seams of the
little building, plus we would like to again provide comprehensive
health care services with emphasis on preventive health care. On
yesterday, September 11, 1974 I submitted to the Mayor Commissioners
as well as the Vice -Mayor's o:;fice, the full space allocation for
Coconut Grove Family Clinic, which the Board is proposing to
hopefully to request space, additional space, in the Theodore
Gibson Building that was one time used by Dade County Administrative
Office, of the E.O.P.I. section. Again I'll be very brief because
the information that I would normally been discussing we prepared
it for you to possibly critique.
Mrs. Virrick,----
Mrs. Virrick: In brief, the Family Health Clinic, which
Father Gibson and I got started some two years ago, is in
that little tiny building, it is suffering from lack of space,
we have been worried that any day the people who hold the clinic
and that is the University of Miami Medical School faculty and
graduate students and the Dade County Health Department, hold
the clinics there, and we have been afraid that they would give
up because the space is so limited. They don't even have a place
to put their stock of medicines. We are now applying for a H.E.W.
grant, and are given to understand that if we can have adequate
space, the grant will be aw,:cded. So we 0,110 to you this morning
asking you to give us the unused space in the large building
in the park, that noone is :;sing, it will not interfere with
zany use of other parts of the building and we really need it
badly, because the service we are giving is vital to the community,
as you probably know.
Mr. Plummer: Let's hear from the Manager, I think he is
the one to speak to it, ----Pall?
Mr. Andrews: We have looked into this matter from the
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adeinistrative point of view. There is no objection, however
wwe Set down certain criteria that we ask that you follow,
Mrs. Virrick, and 'One of those was to get a written letter
which I could present to the City Commission from the Senior
Citizens group that there would not be any conflict in the
use of the building as a result of the two, we have not
received that as yet. Do you know if that is forth coming?
Mrs. Virrick: The only thing I know is that Mr. Jackson
had very enthusiastic support from the senior citizens, when
he first started this, but recently somebody has spread the
word around that we want to use their part of the building
which is not true, therefore they are opposing itr---they
are opposing it on a premise that is not true,
Mr. Andrews; Well. I can say this, Mr. Mayor and members
of the Commission, I would be glad to meet with Mrs. Virrick,
and representatives of the senior citizens, and if there is
no problem, then you wish to predicate your decision based
on that, go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Is that reasonable, thee, you would meet
with the Manager, and then come back to the commission.
Mr. Plummer: Not acceptable to me, let's make a motion
today approving it to the subject of the Manager's entering
into the picture, looking over the situation, and it being
approved by this Commission subject to his approval.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and second, ---Commission
Gordon has a question, then I'll recognize you. then Mrs.
Virrick.
Mrs. Gordon: Mrs. Virrick, you want to operate the
expanded facility in the main building, as I understand it,
I haven't been to inspect it recently, there are several
buildings on the property that could be used.
Rev. Gibson: They are either moved, or in the process
of being moved.
Mrs. Virrick: You mean those buildings are going to
be demolished, those two homes?
Rev. Gibson: They are going to be moved.
Mrs. Gordon: Moved to where?
Rev. Gibson: I don't know.
Mr. Crouch: Those two homes have been sold and will
be moved, they are in the process of being moved.
Mrs. Gordon: Wouldn't that have been a good idea to
put this family health facility in its own private house ?
Mr. Crouch: It would not be in keeping with the plans
for the parks development and recreational facilities.
Mrs. Gordon: It is too late,you have already sold
than you say. What a shame.
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Jean Allen: My name is Jean Allen, I am a senior health
planner with the Health Planning Council here in town. The
health Planning Council as you may be aware, is a non-profit
volunteer agency that sets health goals for the community,
and then helps the community to meet those goals. One thing
the Health Planning Council has been very much in favor of,
With primary health services such as the Coconut Grove Clinic,
ie, we have been in favor of neighbox od based health services,
such as the Coconut Grove clinic, which have community boards
with policy making authority over all aspects of the programs.
We have worked with the Coconut Grove family clinic, and with
the County, relative to a fa4cility that the County is opening
in Coconut Grove, the Intergrated Service Delivery System which
you may know about. The County has discussed in the past operating
health services out of that .facility, which is the former grocery
store on the corner of Douglas Road and U.S. #1. Question I would
ask to be considered, one is, if the County decides to put health
services into the building, at the corner of Douglas Road and
U.S. 1, what impact will that have on the Coconut Grove Clinic?
Will there be duplication of services, in that there will be
two groups operating services in Coconut Grove. Secondly, if
the County operates services in this new facility, will the
Health Department move from the Coconut Grove Clinic to the
new facility, what impact will that have on the Coconut Grove
Clinic? Thirdly or fourthly, is the question about who will
renovate the facility, the Theodore Gibson facility in the
park if they are allowed to move to operate health services.
Thank you.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor I want to speak to this. Some
months ago, the Metropolitan Dade County came down here
and made promises to us. They haven't done one doggoned
thing about their promises nor commitments. You are talking
about what you may do, and what you hope to do, these people
are already doing, --they exist. These people are the ones
with the ideas, the ones who came up with the neighborhood
services, and that is how we are where we are. I need to
tell this Commission, that Metropolitan Dade County was
represented by Mr. Dixon, and I want to tell you this, all
we got was a lot of promises, and never action or delivery.
And I am going to say to the Board, you ought to vote, give
them that space, let them use it, then we will deal with it
when that time comes. While we are here talking and planning
and carrying on, the people are suffering. I think the Board
ought to vote right now.
Mayor Ferre: The motion as I heard Mr. Plummer make,
seconded by Father Gibson is, that we approve this, subject
to the final negotiation by the Administration, is that right?
Mr. Plunm►er: Correct,
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mr.
Plummer who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-968
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE TIIE RE-
QUEST OF THE COCONUT GROVE FAMILY CLINIC
FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE MAIN BUILDING
AT ELIZABETH VIRRICK PARK, SUBJECT TO
NEGOTIATIONS WITH AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY
MANAGER
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0pon being seconded by Rev. Gibbon, the motion was
passad and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboot), Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mayor Ferree NOES: None.
Rev. Gibson: I hope this commission will never let it
Ae said that that building belongs to the senior citizens.
that building belongs to the public. I know what you don't
ki w, Nose, and you see I live with the problem.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, tell me what I don't know, then
I'll know.
Rev. Gibson: You see me after the meeting, we don't
want to consume the time of the Commission here, but I am
going to tell you something, you can't afford to have a
publicly owned building and only the senior citizens control
it. I am going to leave it :at that, Mr. Manager, in the negotiating
process you are aware that that is there.
Mrs. Gordon: Let me remind everybody that Legion Park
is designated for seniors, so we have done it before. We
supply the needs.
Rev. Gibson: That park isn't designated for senior
citizens.
Mrs. Virrick: We want Father Gibsons help in these
negotiations, please.
Rev. Gibson: I'll be delighted to be there.
6. AIRPORT CORCIAL DISTRICT PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS
prscusSiON AND DEFERRAL TO OCTOBER 16 AT GRAPELAND HEIGHTS
Mayor Ferre: Let's take up Item 7, an Ordinance amending
C-A airport commercial district, the Planning Department
recommended approval, the Advisory Board 7 to 0 recommended
an amendment to the Zoning ordinance. I'd like to say, Mr.
Acton, before you say anything else, or say the first word,
I see members of the Grapeland Heights Assoc. that are here.
I made a commitment, it was made a part of the public records
on two occasions before this City Commission, and was concurred
on by all of the Commissioners, that we were not going to hear
this item, ---Mr. Andrews, --we were not going to hear this item
unless we gave the people of Grapeland Heights at Stephen P.
Clark Community Building in Grapeland Heights the opportunity
to listen to our deliberations,express their opinions, and
we were going to have a meeting there. I see it is on the agenda
today, I'd like to know why.
Mr. Plummer: I can tell you the reason why, ----Paul is
a big boy and can fight for himself, Mr. Mayor 1 was with
you that evening that the commitment was made, and when you
made it, you made it for yourself and for me, and I can tell
you the reason the faux -pas has occured is, Mr. Andrews was
not present at that meeting, and there is a break -down in
communisations.
Mayor Ferre: Paul I don't want to be critical, but it
was stated right here, if you go back to the agenda of the
previous meeting, Andy, you remember that we made the statement
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right here, Jasper Andre was here, and other people, Hector
Marion was here, and we made a ataternent right herewe wbuld
not finalize on this item until the people of Grapeland Heights
had the opportunity to hear it and discuss it. 'You Were here
when that statement was Made.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, i make a motion at this time
that this item be deferred and aak that the City Manager
give us a date at this time for a Town Hall meeting where
this item can be heard. Mr. Manager what do you prefer, sir?
Mr. Andrews: I suggest you hold this after the month of
September and that the Commission pick a date convenient as
early as possible in October.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manor, I make a motion that this item
be deferred until the town Hall meeting at Grapeland Heights
can be held on the 3rd oZ October, at 7 PM at which time the
Commission will come back and take final action.
Mayor Ferre: Are there eny objections to that?
Mrs. Gordon: Can we check our caleEndars before the
date is set.
Mayor Ferre: In keeping with our policy, Rose of having
these Zbwn Hall meetings, we have had one so far, outside of
thee chambers.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mayor Ferre: I am talking about Town Hall meetings of
which we have had 12, --I am talking about Town Hall -Commission
Meetings where we deliberate part of the agenda.
Mr. Plummer: That was not the intention of my motion.
My motion was that we have a Town Hall meeting and that after
the conclusion it come back here to this Commission for its
normal public hearing and decision.
Mr. Andrews: Unless you wish to take the meeting of Oct. 10
and have half of that meeting at Grapeland Heights.
Mayor Ferre: That is precisely what I was thinking.
Mr. Plummer: I see no objection to that.
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Mayor Ferre: One of the things we said we were going
to do, and we've had one such meeting up at Legion Park,
is to take these Commission meetings out to the people where
the people live.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Clerk I amend my motion to read that
this item be deferred until the afternoon meeting of the
10th of October, such meeting to be held in the Grapeland
Heights, in the Stephen Clark auditorium.
Mayor Ferre: I am sorry for' -the inconvenience this causes
people that own property here.
Mr. Abraham: Thank you for allowing me to come before
you, I returned from Chicago to attend this meeting.
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Mr. Abraham: Unfortunately 1 Will be in Europe on the loth
May t respectfully request that we move it up to a date other
than that because I am very interested in the project.
Mr.Pluer: Mr. Abraham, you are not aware
Mrs. Gordon: The second meeting in October, ---
Mr. Plummer: Is the 24th agreeable to everyone?
Mr. Abraham: The 24th would be fine sir.
Mr. Plummer: I amend it once again to Oct. 24 in
the afternoon.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any objections to that at
this time? We will try to schedule it as the last agenda
item and the way we run things here, it will be beyond 5.
Mr. Abraham: Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Let met see if I heard the motion right,
the motion is that this matter be postponed until the afternoon
meeting of October 24, which will be held at Stephen P. Clark
Bldg. in Grapeland Heights to hear both items 7 and 8, is
that correct?
Rev. Gibson: I second the motion.
Thereupon the motion was passed and adopted by the
following vote - AYES: Mr. Raboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
APPROVAL OF MODIFICATION -CENTRAL PLAZA SHOPPING PLAZA
3875 , W. 7TH STREET BANK AND OEE QSSTRUUCTURE.EJC.
Mayor Ferre: I will now recognize the applicant.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor before Mr. Arboleya starts
I think in the interest of brevity, as I read the minutes
of the Planning Board, not a single objection was raised.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any objectors present today?
Mr. Plummer: There's plenty of them. What I was trying
to say Mr. Mayor, I don't think there is any objection to the
building, at least there was none reflected in the zoning
board minutes. The only objection raised by the neighbors
was their concern about the Drive -In tellers. Is there someone
that disagrees with that or has other opinions. Then we have
to hear the whole thing. I was just going to say Mr. Mayor
let's speak just to the drive-in tellers but if there are other
area then we will go into the whole thing.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer I am glad to see the suffer
from the Ferre syndrome also, --make assumptions speaking
for somebody else and it doesn't work out.
Mayor Ferre: There are some opinions in this town that
you already have.
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Mr. Carlos Arboleya: My name is Carlos Arboleya, I live
at 1941 SW 23 Street, I am President of the Flagler Bank
and I represent Mayday, Inc. in the presentation to this
COMMiaeion. This matter has come before the Planning Board
previously, and our initial appearance, we are not in
agreement with the Planning Department staff, we worked
all the differences with the Staff to the point that we
are in full agreement with staff, the Zoning Board approved
our presentation in a 7 to 0 vote, and to clarify Mr. Mayor
and Mr. Plummer, some of the possible questions, the main
issue our neighbors have brought up in the past has been
that former ownership, or former owners of the shopping
center have promised many things,that have not lived up
to them.
Mr. Plummer: As I also read Mr. Arboleya, the contention
that they haven't lived up to their promises were strictly
over the drive-in tellers.
Mr. Arboleya: I would say it was a totally negative
attitude towards that, ---up to now they have promised us
many things and have not kepi, their promises. As a result
of this, when the Zoning Board approved the project, they
have given us a one year condition, that everything that
is presented and approved in here must be done, and we have
accepted this and of course, we have no choice but to keep
our promises whether we like to or not, or that we do intend
to keep our promises.
We have tried to work out as the recommendation of
Mr Acton from the Planning Department a traffic flow of
the drive-in tellers that it stays within the inside of
the shopping center and one of the architectural
will show the traffic pattern, ---how the traffic will come
in, we have made a perimeter road, inside of the shopping
center, and the traffic flow will go back out again, so
as not to disturb the neighbors. There is an exist:':ng exit
on llth Street, there must be an existing exit on that street.
and traffic has to leave the shopping center somewhere, and
that is being used by the highway patrol at this point, and
of course, it will be an escape exit to the bank, however
the main flow of traffic will come back out into 7th Street.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I am lost, 7th Street is down
here, where are the tellers.
Mr. Arboleya: The drive-in tellers show in the map,
inside the shopping center, back of the bank. We have put
them that far away,
Mrs. Gordon: Where is 7th Street, please show me,
what is the avenue on the left, ----
Mr. Arboleya:----39th Ave. -
Mr. Plummer: This isn't the picture I got drawn,
a car comes in from 39th Ave. right there behind the bank,
is that correct? Follow a car on through. In otherwords,
that area from the orange, which represents the tellers,
south, down to the Bank is now paved, correct.
Mr. Arboleya: This Area is paved, this is not paved.
Mt. Plummer: That is the grass area?
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Mr. Arboleya: It will be paved as we progress. What is
the reason for the drivs-ins to be this far away from the Bank,
for safety purposes, ----(inaudible) -one of the many things
that our neighbors are complaining of, is the deplorable condition
of the center, but precisely our intentions are to up -grade it
and beautify it and make it a place we would all be proud of.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask one other question, the wall you
reflect on the outside of the landscape, --and what kind and
how high is that wall.
Mr. Arboleya: It is exactly what the Planning Department
has receommended, --it is a 4 ft. masonry wall, (inaudible) ----
Mr. Plummer: My final question, is there any landscaping
or shrubbery on the outside of the wall.
Mr. Arboleya: Yes, 'right here, ----
Rev. Gibson: I hear you say what your intentions are.
how do you differentiate, ---intentions by, --I think these
people as I see them bowing their heads, and I know you,
they would like a different terminology.
Mr. Arboleya: What terminology would you like,---- commitment?
Rev. Gibson: They don't want intention.
Mr. Plummer: Father Gibson, let me tell you, I have never
in all the times, ---I don't agree with the Mayor too often
politically, but the one statement he makes is very true and
it applies even more specifically here, that politics is the
art of compromise, --I have never seen an applicant agree to
a stipulation which in the Board minutes, which would have to
be a part of these minutes, what he has done here, and that
is simply, there there is a one year re -inspection, ----
Mr. Arboleya:--after completion, ---
Mr. Plummer: ----and at the end of that year, if he has
not lived up to his commitment, at his expense, he has to
remoVs it.
Rev. Gibson: What I am trying to do, is what I thought
I just about to get, --he was willing to give us the terminology,
no an intention. I thought I had picked that out of the things
and I wanted to in another way, I wasn't doing it. but after
people are sure that he intends to keep that commitment, ----
Mr. Arboleya: There is no question about it, ---
Rev. Gibson: --and I wanted them to know, if he doesn't
keep that commitment, which i have every reason to believe
he will, that he will have to deal with us later on.
Mr. Plummer: Let me say this, and i'll shut up. These
people have a very honest, sincere, concern that in fact
other people at other times made commitments, which it doesn't
take a lot of looking at to see, that those commitments were
not lived up to. I think the unfair thing is to say because
other people didn't live up to their commitments, that likewise
Mr. Arboleya won't live up to this commitments, now that is
not fair, but I understand their concern, because Father. you
drive around now, and I think Mr. Arboleya would be the first
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tb admit, it is not only commitments were not lived up to,
but it is a deplorable situation. I think that is really
the difference.
Mayor Ferre: How many wish to speak? Five? Do you
think 3 minutes is all right, then I'll give you more
time if you need it, beyond that.
Mr. John B. Gentry: Mr. Mayor, my name is John B. Gentry
I am Vice Pres. of Grapeland Heights Civic Assoc. and we are
here today requesting the City Commission live up to the
agreements that were imposed against the property 15 years ago.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Gentry we are going to listen to all
of that, but I want to know how much time you wish to speak.
Mr. Gentry: I won't need much time for I have to go to
work. We do have one member who will require some time.
Mayor Ferre: I will set 3 minutes per speaker, which
is 15 minutes, to sum up if somebody wants to use up the
extra 5 rain*tes. Is that all right with everyone?
Mr. Gentry: I'll give him plenty of time, because
I am going to be short and sweet. All I want the City of
Miami to do is live up to the agreements that were made
15 years ago by this honorable Board, and enforce this time
the agreements.
Mayor Ferre: Would you be specific?
Mr. Gentry: Yes, I'll be specific but Mr. Bush will
be more specific, he will show you pictures of how they
did not live up to their agreement. This gentleman is President
of the bank, he is not the owner of the property, the way I
understand it, and he is making all the commitments for the
owners of the property.
Mayor Ferre: If he is doing that he must have knowledge
that he can get them,
Mr. Gentry: In the past I think this property has changed
hands about 3 times, and all the time Mr. Heck is still Chairman.
Mr. Heck I suppose all of you know, owns the Dog Track. I
believe owns the property, regardless of the company's name.
I think he is the one that would have to speak. But we are
not here to battle that one out,
Unidentified person: For clarification purposes, Mr.
Mayor, Mr.Heck has not been the Chairman of the property
in all these years. Mr. Heck recently acquired the property.
Mayor Ferre: That is fine, but that is a detail at this
stage of the game.
Mt. Gentry: We don't want to battle that one out, we still
know who parks over there, but we are not opposed to the bank.
We are opposed to any of the breaking of the former agreements
against this property that the setback of the changing of the
fence line, the opening to traffic along llth street, and any
construction within 200 ft of that fence. That is all I have
to say, Thank you.
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Mayor Ferree Alt right, thank you.
MSC. lien Bush: Mr. Mayor, I am Ken Bush, not the world's
greatest speaker so I took a bunch a notes here I'll read from.
First of all, I'd like to say due to the time of this
meeting. we could have had 150 people here but everybody is
working, so we did have a petition signed and this petition
is signed by every resident on No.West. llth Street, every
resident on N.W. 39th Avenue and the block behind llth Street,
12th Street and 39th Ct. and if you would like to see the petition,
Mayor Ferret Just give it to the Clerk.
Mr. Bush: At a recent meeting of the Zoning and Planning
Board it was recommended that a plan which would allow the
building of drive-in windows along N.W. 39th Court, up to
approximately N.W. 9th Street, be deemed acceptable by the
City Commission with the stipulation that if after one year
from occupancy, the neighborhood still finds thesituation
unacceptable they would be answerable to the Planning Board.
The Zoning and Planning Board stated they felt that much of
bad feelings encountered by the neighborhood stemmed from the
fact that previous owners failed to live up to the agreements
set by the Commission in previous years. May I bring to your
attention that the attorney for the shopping center himself
stated that the present owners had been in control for the
past two years. We are asked to believe that even though
that during the past two years when they have done absolutely
nothing to up -grade the disgraceful condition which exists now
or even to uphold the agreement, that it will be manicured to
the extent described atd the plans presented to the Zoning
and Planning Board. This all looks beautiful that Mr. Arboleya
has there, but like I say for the last two years, they have
owned this property and in July when we met with the Planning
Board, was the day that that place was last cut. I brought
pictures that were taken on September 3 to show you what
this condition looks like. Mind you, that is three months
ago. and there is not a bit of grass and nothing but weeds,
so I don't think they are living up to this agreement already.
We were faced with this situation in 1959 when the shopping
center was built. The Planning and Zoning Board of Miami at its
meeting held on the 21st day of May, 1959 passed and adopted
by an 8 to 1 vote a variance that guaranteed the neighborhood
certain provisions. We guaranteed the creation of a 50 ft. land-
scaped buffer strip from zoned street lines along N.W. llth Street
and along N.W. 39th Avenue with a cement block wall not less than
4 ft in height be erected long the iwiside line of such buffer
strip to the wall, and the landscaped area to be permanently
maintained by the owners in good and attractive conditions, and
provide that no buildings in the project shall be erected less
than 200 ft. from the outside wall, erected along the inside
of the buffer strip along N.W. llth Street and N.W. 39th Avenue
between N.W. 8th Terrace extended. and N.W. llth Street, ---
with openings not over 10• in width for pedestrian ingress
and egress to be limited to one. on N.W. 39th Avenue and N.W.
9th Street, one opposite N.W. 38th Avenue on N.W. llth Street,
in Sec. 4. of this ordinance, it clearly states that this ordinance
was passed on the grounds of urgent public need, for preservation
of peace, health and safety in the City of Miami. If at that
time the presiding City Commission felt that that variance was
needed for the preservation of peace, health and safety, does
it not stand to reason that 15 years later, the need for up-
holding this variance, is that much greater? We have been told
that an agreement that was drawn up 15 years ago is outdated
by today's standards, yet at least 75% of the same residents.
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that fbtaght for this variance 15 years ago, are still residinc7
in the some houses and still believe the City COtmnission repro
aenta the people, and that this commission will see our problems
now as they were seen then.
We are told we are hangit►g on to outdated ideas, frankly
we were not aware that you could a time limit on trust, trust
that a bona fide agreement that was made and put into an ordinance
could be cast aside by the greed of big business. We are aware
that some laws and ordinances become obsolete, and when they
do they should be removed. However no one has shown that this
is true in regard to this .variance, therefore we ask you uphold
the present variance, that are in effect and relocate the pro-
posed drive-in teller windows to the front of the shopping
center on N.W. 7th Street where the Fresent portable structure
is now located. The ordinance which i am talking about, I don't
know if you have, but here is a copy of that ordinance.
If I may I would like to point out a couple of things over
here. At this present time, they are now in violation because
according to the variance they are not supposed to be using
that exit. And somehow or other, they have come about using
it, and here are pictures showing that, where someone has
put a pipe across the street and paved it, and here is where
the fence is down and all the cars drive in and out. This
was originally a walk-in type place. and it has been busted
down.
As far as the variance and etc. on the buffer strip, in
that ordinance. --we were guaranteed a 50 ft. buffer strip, --
if they move that 30 ft. back towards us, that means the traffic,
the car. everything is going to be that much closer to the houses.
Right now, they have drainage, a drainage which is right off the
alley -way, and run alcng back of the stores. The paving slopes
down and anytime you get a hard rain, the whole of llth Street
is flooded. As a matter of fact I have waterfront property every
time it rains. I step out my front steps into the water. That
is how bad it is. Now they want to move and pave it 30 more
feet closer to my house. During any king of activities at that
place all the cars come by those fences, and that means they
are going to be that much closer, with this big building they
are v ing to put in there, all that traffic, ---he is saying
the traffic will go around a little circle and out, ---I know
the traffic is not going to go that way. Traffic is going to -II
come out on llth Street, and it is going to be one big mess
in that neighborhood with all this traffic, plus, the big thing
is the teller windows. I don't see how anyone can say that it
would be fair to put teller windows right across the street from
a residential area. Look out your windows and look at teller
windows right across the street from you. These are the things
the Commission gave us when this shopping center was created.
and we think it is only fair you stick by and help the residents
out on this. Thank you for the time.
Mayor Ferro: Thank you Mr. Bush.
Mrs. Wright: I am Mrs. Wright and I live at 950 N.W.
39th Avenue. The drive-in tellers are going to be in my front
door. When we look at these plans, with the landscaping it is
beautiful. The president said there was no greenery now. Right
now on .N.W. 39th Avenue there are 25 trees that are 15 years
and it was stated at the Planning Board meeting, I told them
I could not understand why they wanted to remove these beautiful
trees that have taken 15 years to grow. Now they are going to
uproot these trees because they are taking the easement. If they
move in this 30 ft. it is going to remove all of these trees.
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Mrs. Wright: It is going to remove all of these trees.
At the present time, I am sure most of you realize there is
a drivers license laming bureau, this is across the street
frost ilyy house also. Each day starting around. 5:30 A.M the
traffic starts. People are taking private driving lessons.
This goes on until almost mid -night every night with this
traffic. Now each day, we must listen to these people announcing
from this driver's license bureau. They average 100 to 130
new driver's license issuance per day. Close your eyes and
visualize this traffic. That many examinations are being
given per day. Can you visualize just in 3.W. llth Street
and N.M. 29th Avenue where I live, this traffic, if these
drive-in tellers go in, heaven help us, because it is almost
impossible now to get out of our drive way. We have had
accidents with this driving school. We cannot park on
the City parking area of the street. We had one car in
our family sideswipped. My neighbor had his car sideswipped.
It is dangerous for the children out playing. What it is
going to be when the drive-in tellers are put there. We
are an R-1 residence area. Our hands are tied. This easement
is the only thing we have to protect us. We do not object to
the bank and we realize and believe the present owners will
live up to what they say, providing they do, you do not grant
them the easement. This is our only salvation for we are R-1,
to keep it as the easement is now.
Mr. Bush: For clarification of the record, it seems
Mrs. Wright's memory failed her, that at the last meeting,
it very specifically said that the 25 bicj trees would just
be moved into the area there, if you recall, they are not
disappearing, and right now we get 50 ft. easement or buffer,
whatever you want to call it,' you are not getting anything
while with a 20 ft. you are getting a lot more beautification
and coverage for your neighborhood.
Mayor Ferre: As is the tradition here in the City of
Miami Commission we always recognize people that are running
for public office. We have Mr. George Buckman who is running
for Circuit Judge in the October race.
(applause)
Mayor Ferre: Any other speakers on this side? All right,
Carol Cameron: I am Carol Cameron I live at 900 N.W. 39th
Avenue, and I would like to ask, you said that all traffic would
be kept inside the fence, where is it going to go when it gets
out,and especially if the bank is open on Friday nights like
most banks are, the drive-in tellers will be open and all the
traffic will be coming out either on 39th Avenue or llth Street,
and I guarantee you it won't be going out on 7th Street, because
it is so busy that time of night. And the traffic is bad enough
now, you have to wait 5 minutes to get out of your driveway because
cf the driving schools and everything that comes through there,
and when it rains it is terrible from the drainage, both on 39th
Avenue and llth Street, if they move the wall up towards the
sidewalk more, the dog track, when it is open, the commercial
buses come and park there next to the wall, and the buses stay
running the whole time the dog track is open, and it pollutes
the whole area, and all you can smell is the gas fumes all over
the area. I don't think it would be good for the people who
live around there, and I think you should consider the people's
feelings who live there, because we have had to put up with it
for years.
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Mr. P1uMMer: Mr. Mayor let me ask her a question, Maybe
Mr. Arboliiya can answer it, or Mrs. Wright, or
the driving school wring the street?
Unidentified person: Yes, ---
Mr. Plummer: Contrary to anything else, we can do
something about that. Ken ought to know the methods on that.
Mr. Bush: Before we call our two next speakers. Mr.
Mayor, it is my understanding and please have the City Manager
or the Planning Department correct me, ----this was a three-point
resolution, point 2 and 3 was approved and finalized by the
Zoning Board, and point No. 1 which is the building itself,
is what is before this Commission. Mr. DuBreuil would like to
speak now.
Mayor Pierre: Mr. DuBreuil, how long are you going to
speak, two minutes?
Mr. George DuBreuil: Honorable Commission, my name is
George DuBreuil, I have offices at 100 N.M. 37th Avenue,----
15 years ago I sat on this august body when this was all created
so I feel I should be here to speak. I am speaking on behalf
of the shopping center. At that time, and I have to go back
briefly for you, --at that time the Grapeland Heights area
which has a fine bunch of citizens that live out there, and
real political body of people that get out and vote. I have
a lot of respect for those people in the Grapeland Heights
area . Fifteen years ago there was a big city dump out there,
today there is a beautiful golf course in the Grapeland Heights
area. They have tennis courts, playgrounds, softball, we built
not only the golf course but we built the library, the civic
center, i don't know how of any area of the City of Miami that
more was done for the Grapeland Heights area. came the shopping
center, Mr. J.A. Kanter for approximately 12 years owned that
shopping center. We completely agreed with the people there,
he did not live up to this agreements what would be done. At
the time 15 years ago that this came up, the housing Authority
came before the Commission and wanted to buy this property
to put in -a public housing. And Rev. Gibson at the time this
came about the people in Grapeland Heichts came up in mass
and opposed that. The next thing that came up , they decided to
go for the shopping center, the people came up in mass to support
the shopping center because they didn't want public housing in
that area because they were afraid of possible mixed families
living in that area. I want this to go on the record, for this
is exactly what happened at that time.
Getting back to the shopping center area, they, six months
ago, we case before, in the front door, we worked with the planners.
part of the ordinances were approved, part was not, we came before
the City Commission, it was sent back to the planning staff, I
don't think any item has been argued and debated any more than
this has. In reference to Rev. Graham's point of how do you make
this stick, I think that this body should make the plans and
specifications. a part of the record and this has to be built
according to plans and specifications. We have done this in
the past, on making them as far as trees go, it is true, these
trees are 15 years old and they are going to stay there. Some
are going to be removed and put closer to it. These people for
15 yeare, taxes have been paid on C-lA property. It is zoned
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Cl1A and they have not had the use of that 50 ft. buffer. The
area has changed in 15 yearn. There is an expressway running
through the middle, separating this shopping center from the
Grapeland Heights area. I feel very confident that this body
will take into consideration all these things. I did want to
give you a background on what happened with the entire Grape -
land Heights area and how much this Commission and other
Commissions have done for the Grapeland Heights area.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Don Adams: My name is Don Adams, Mr. Mayor and
Commissioners, I live at 3431 N.W. 16th Street, I am past
president of Grapeland Heights Civic Assoc. I think these
present owners are going to live up to their agreements.
Because we were here about 6 months ago, in reference to
the two parking lots on 37th Avenue across from the dog track.
They were given permission to leave them status quo if they
would put in shrubbery, which they have done. Also this bank,
and this property is going to be very valuable for a lot of
people. Grapeland Heights is an old community and they have
a lot of elderly people, they have a lot of elderly widows
that are able to get to thiF facility, and I would think
the peon:-- -+n llth street would certainly rather look on this
than what t)' .re looking at now. As far as cars exiting on
llth Stree', hearing east, nobody in their right mind is going
to do that because there is no traffic light at 37th Avenue
and llth Street, and you try to get out on 37th Avenue with
no traffic light, so I think the majority of them will come
out on 37th Avenue and 7th Street. That is my belief and I
think this a big improvement for the community.
Mr. Mike Deutchman: My name is Mike Deutchman. I am with
the architectural firm of Watson, Deutchman and Lyons. When
Commissioner Plummer mentioned compromise, we had spent many.
many hours in compromise with the Planning Department, with the
Traffic Department and we have gleaned from previous objectors
from a lot of the neighbors there, and incorporated quite a
number of the ideas already, in other words this isn't the
fresh new approach to them, there have been a number of
ideas that they have had, that have been recognized in this
thing, so it is a combination of quite a bit of compromise
of all the bodies involved.
Mr. Arboleya: I will conclude my presentation, I think
what we are trying to do is something good for the community.
it is a beautification for the community, and respectfully
request the City of Miami Commission to approve the request
as recommended by the Zoning and Planning Departments at
their meeting.
Mayor Ferre: We are not following an exact format. because
this i; not a court, so does anybody want to say anything over
on this side, before the Commission gets into questions?
Mr. Jasper O. Andre: My name is Jasper O. Andre, and
I live in Grapeland Heights, the address is 960 N.W. 35 Ct.
All of the significance of the importance in presenting this
blue print you have in relation to the new area of our park,
I want to refer to that we have been living with it.----fine,----
we like improvements,fine but I think Grapeland Heights
Civic Assoc. it has endorsed the fact that they are going to
go along with the people on llth Street and also of 39th,
because of the sufferings in the past, and there is no other
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way but make it right. If these people want to build a nice
building up there, like 7, 0, 9 stories, why don't they do that,
but they have, and I am going to point out, plenty of room to
do this, rather than put that drive-in teller where it is,
right in front of residences, why don't they put it right in
front where the mini -banks are, and put the bank from the
corner of 7th Street and 39th, east, that is where the teller
should be, but they are not telling us all of the truth. The
buffer is only for one reason, it is because the people want
privacy, they want no distortion, they don't want hassles, and
they cannot sleep if this is going to be improving, or we say
accessibly, the flow of traffic right in front of their homes.
One other thing they don't tell you, is the trucks which deliver
things there go in the back along llth Street, they use that
for toilet facilities over there. They use it for repairs of
their trucks at night, but they don't tell you this, because
they don't live.there. If they've got so much money, and they
want to do the things right as they say for the residents and
the neighborhood, and up -grade it, then all they have to do
is take a piece of that Zayer's building and build up a second
floor, and use the entire front up to the present mini -bank
which is in the center between 39th Avenue and 37th Avenue.
It is accesible to them now, but no, we have now a dog track
which they are owners, they have an interest in this bank, the
owners of the dog track. They are going to try to put more
cars in there to facilitate a daily issue of races, on a
current basis, and one at night, so therefore that means that
these people here won't have no rest, almost until 11 or 12
''o'clock at night. And I know for a fact, ---not 39th and the
corner, I am talking about 37th and llth Street and incidentally
that llth Street is a bus through street. And if you are going
to put more cars in a single lane, 25 ft. street, you are going
jam up the whole entire thing because you can't cross llth Street
on 37th Avenue now to the resident's homes, let alone the people
who live around in there. Some people say here they were past
president of Grapeland Heights, they are no longer past president,
they are only residents. I don't say I am a president or anything.
I am only a resident.‘I am also in relation to beautification,
and I say if you allow this drive-in teller there, you are making
two wrongs, because of condition use, later on, come back here
like Mr. Plummer said, it is a hassle to remove, so let's do it
right now while it is in a blue print stage. Let these people
go back, nobody is rushing them to put a bank in there. They
can wait another 6 months, we don't care. Do it right for the
people, that is all I have to say, I want to make sure you also
recognize the setbacks , that 50 ft. should stay.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Arboleya:We are under pressure because as you know,
we have a one year timing from the City of Miami Commission
plus from the controller's office in the State of Florida to
have our final permanent building state, so I just want to
clarify that.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Mr. Arboleya, the public
portion of this done and over with, and I have given everybody
ample time. Mr. Bush wants to know when the place is going
to be cleaned up.
Mr. Arboleya: Which place?
I get back, when they will clean
a maintenance question, # happen
not a maintenance supervisor.
I will ask the owners when
it up. You are asking me
to be president of a bank,
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Rev. Gibson: You know what really bothers me, we pass
ordinances and laws in this community, and some people have
no intention of keeping them. Now, our going here would be
much easier if all of us recognize that we have a responsibility
to the community. 1 am concerned about another thing, if all of
that repair work is going to the back of that property, and usinLl
the land as toilets, I am greatly concerned. One of the reasons
we put sewers in the City is to avoid that kind of thing. This
is not against you, this is only to ask one of the owners, how
do you answer that to us? Before you answer, Mr. Andrews, I
don't .know who is responsible in the City for monitoring such
action, but I hope some corrective measures will take place,
whether you get what you want here today or not, is not the
issue right now. The issue is whether or not that kind of
conditions is goingto exist in the City limits of the City
of Miami.
Mr. Arboleya: May I just say I support you wholly,
and if the gentleman who is complaining about this would
make a report to the police department, I would be the
first one to put in jail whoever uses that for a
Rev. Gibson: I'd like to hear your answer.
Mr. Arboleya: Rev. basically if buses, and the young
lady made a statement the buses from the track are using
the area at night and leaving the engines running, I think
if the Civic Assoc would bring this to our notice, we would
help them in any way possible to stop that. That is now what
it is supposed to be used for. We have found cranes out in
front of the shopping center, where a crane service would
just come in and leave the crane, we have to call them and
tell them to get it out. If the equipment is being left in
the rear of the center, if the residents in that area will
call the track, we will do everything possible and will cooperate
with the police department to see it is removed. I assure you
the grass will be cut and the grass will be cut this week.
I can't tell you what day, we have to schedule this.
Rev. Gibson: It will be done this week?
Mr. Arboleya: Absolutely.
Rev. Gibson: What about using the ground as a toilet?
Mr. Arboleya: I don't quite understand what they are
referring to.
Rev. Gibson: Okay. Mr. Mayor, we are going to have to
vote seriously. I would like the citizens to explain.
Mayor Ferre: There is a public portion of this where
everybody is allowed to speak, we have to set time limits,
now it is the Commission's turn, we will recognize you, as
questions are asked, and you answer the question.
Unidentified person: I would like to speak directly to
Rev. Gibson. Some of this pertains to when the carnival is
in the shopping center. The trucks of the carnival in the past
have parked along the wall on N.W. llth Street, along the wall
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on N.W. 39th Avenue, on the grassed area which is in the
front of my bone, and' some of tray neighbors. 1 have one
neighbor that can verify this now. We have sat in our
front yard in the afternoon and we have watched people
use the ground as a toilet.
Rev. Gibson: Did you call the police?
Unidentified person: We have called, things have been
reported, nothing has ever been done. People live out of the
back of these trailers, there are no toilet facilities there
for these people, there are .:ertain people right now still
using the grass area in the ,Front of 1020 N.W.39th Ave.
as a toilet. I consider myself a lady, but there is one
gentleman that really brings his own toilet tissue with him.
I will ask Mrs. Conkle to verify this, because we have sat
in our front yard and watch it. I don't know who is responsible.
We people have put up with deplorable conditions. The health
department has been called, Planning and Zoning has been called,
I have been waging a seven year war out there to even get the
neighborhood cleaned up, to make the neighbors clean up. We
cannot expect the shopping center to do something and the
neighbors not to do something else. I am accused of doing
a lot of things I have not done, but I have been working
in fact the gentleman from the Zoning Hoard should know
me by name, the Chairman, because he has called my home
a couple of times. These are the cdnditions. I am not accusing
the present bank owners, but it has been two years that you
have owned. This has gone on in the past two years. Don't you
ever get out and walk around, and ride around and look and
see? if garbage is in my yard I go out and pick it up. We
go out there, we clean garbage up every day, that is thrown
out of the automobiles, and people eating at this license
bureau. We clean up, ---I even walk across the street there
in your buffer zone, and I pick up garbage myself and put
it away.
Rev. Gibson: Sir, since you are the owner of the
property, this has nothing to do with the bank, it will
make the bank's problems be much easier if you respond
affirmatively.
Mr. Arboleya: Rev. there is no question that the
points that the lady has brought up, have been taking place.
There is no reason for it. 1 would certainly feel between
the Health Dept. or the Police Dept. which ever. body has
juri$diction in this, we will do whatever we possibly can.
I did not know this was going on. I do know that when we
have the carnivals in, the carnivals are a promotion by the
shopping center, by the merchants to increase business. I do
know they parked trailers in the rear of the center. I did
not know anyone was living in the trailers, the way the lady
ecpressed it. It is a difficult subject to discuss. But certainly
she is right, and if this is taking place, I think the Civic
Association and the residents and ourselves will do everything
possible to help. We cannot enforce it. I don't know if the
police department is the one to enforce it. We can keep the
trailers out of there. I can't stop somebody. I can't put_a
policeman there to stop anybody from walking on the grass,
and doing Whatever he may do. I would say we have to call the
police department. This is really not our problem, but I certainly
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have eospasion and we understand the problem, and we will
cat► whatever possible to keep the trailers out of there from
the carnival, whenever we are called, and there are trucks
be& there, and 1 personally will walk around the property
more, and inspect the property. But I can't stop some of the
things the people are talking about.
this.
Rev. Gibson: But you can clean up the property?
Mr. Arboleya: Certainly.
Rev. Gibson: You can cut the grass?
Mr. Arboleya: Yes. I will say we have been derelict in
Rev. Gibson: You sure have jurisdiction over that?
Mr. Arboleya: What is correct.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Andrews. you heard what the citizens
are saying? It is inconceivable that we could have an open
toilet in the City limits.
Mr. Andrews: I will have to find out more details about
the way this occurs, if it is a problem that we have to
police closely, and more stringent regulations on their part
as far as the operation of the whole center. I wonder if there
have been any leases that have been cancelled because of poor
operation within the stopping center.
Rev. Gibson: Would you be affected by that cancelling
of leases if they don't carry out the sanitation code, and
all like that? I want it in the record, so that later on
when you come back here, I c:an say the record says, are
you responsible for those, -'-you can cancel leases if they
don't, -----
Mr. Arboleya: I don't have the leases in front of me.
Reverend, but I am sure that a lease makes a tenant abide
by whatever City regulations, county and health regulations,
and if they do something, they either have to correct it, or
the lease can be breached. i don't know how the individual
tenant is breaking that. I can understand from the carnival
with trucks or the carnival people coming in, but the point
you are raising, if a law is being broken, and something is
being done that is wrong, let's enforce the law.
Rev. Gibson: Let me do this, Mr. Mayor, for the people
and the public. Me will never know unless you tell us. I want
to ask you to make a commitment. If what you have just related
to us is going on, i urge you to tell the City Manager and
stay on him night and day. and if you don't get any results
from the City Manager, I think the Charter says this, you
could come to us. Is that the way the Charter reads.
Unidentified person: Yes.
Rev. Gibson: Okay, so you don't have any more excuse now.
And sir, we are going to expect you. if you had that lease under
your control, once you found that that kind of condition exists
in the City. to tacks the appropriate action, otherwise you are
*ping to have a rough time getting anything else done here. when
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you core, I just don't think the citizens ought to have toilets
all over the place,
Mayor Ferret We are about 20 minutes behind, and some
people are here on the 11:30 items, so 1 think we have heard
both side,, and I think it is time, ----Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, getting back to whatI said
before, and maybe you didn't make the statement, that politics
is the art of compromise.
Mayor Ferre: That was Winston Churchill, i think.
Mr. Plummer: A lot of the things that these people
are complaining about, I think possibly, can be eliminated
with this facility. I think the parking of the buses and the
back area which today is paved, and when i visited it on
Sunday, in fact it was being used by a driving school, not
the street. That was the reason I was amazed about the fog
horns and things of this nature. I am just concerned that
the cars coming in, into the tellers and Mrs. Wright living
directly across the street, ----Mrs. Wright if we were to
appibve this application with, -being a conditional use, we
can apply any conditions that we wish, or you wish, of course
acceptable to the applicant, and if those conditions are not
kept, we can do something about it. Would a wall of 6 ft. which
is what they refer to beyond eye level, be more acceptable, would
the possibility of more shrubbery make it acceptable and the
final one which maybe the applicants would not like, the exit
on llth street I think presently is illegal, or not granted,
that we place conditions that the applicant cannot have, egress
on llth Street, that either he take his traffic directly to
37th Avenue or only bring it back down to the ingress behind
the bank. I went out there Sunday, and there is no question
in my mind, of the deplorable conditions and 1 know what you
are saddled with, but I also know Mr. Arboleya, to be a man
of his word, and his proven track record in this community,
and I'll tell you quite frankly, I have no reservations in
living up to what Mr. Arboleya says he will do. I have no
questions or qualms about that, and I am just looking, that
not only are they willing to heavily landscape the area where
the vital concern is, but the furtherance to go back into the
shopping center itself parking lot, with additional landscaping,
so I am just wondering back and forth, if this thing were to
be granted, is there any conditions that would wake it acceptable
or more acceptable. And Mra. Wright I would ask you or Captain
Bush to speak to that.
Mrs. Wright: I am so heartsick, I'll tell you, ----if this
is granted this morning, the for sale sign on my property goes
up next week. I cannot live, ----I am now in my home alone, my
husband is a captain in the Merchant Marines, he is overseas
now. We were robbed on the 3rd of July, I am now very nervous
about being in my home alone. There are other ladies in their
homes alone in our neighborhood. Things are happening to them.
We haviUg women being knocked down, on I.W. 9th Street because
of the conditions on the side of the street I have tried to get
cleaned up, thanks to the Zoning Board, they would not enforce
tbm law that they should have done. I am sorry, I feel so strongly
about this. We bought our home there when it was pasture land.
OUT children have grown up there. They are now gone. We people
have looked forward to, and our homes are paid for, which they
are, and we could retire, but if this goes in, these drive-ins
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go in there, they move that wall, 30 ft. closer to the
sidewalk,---1 am sorry, 1 cannot stay there, because now
the traffic isso bad, that if anyone would like a home
for sale, you are welcome to it and you try and live with
it, --conditions that are now and will be there, and Mr.
DuBreuil,---I feel sorry for you, you don't live there.
1 know you were in favor of us at one time, I know there
are salaries involved, but 'right now in the front of my
house, weeds and grass are 4 feet high. I am sick. You
use your own conscience this morning as to what you want
to do. There's acres and acres of land over there for
drive in tellers, without moving a wall, and I said up-
rboting trees. Yes, they are to be dug up, but they are
to be transplanted some place else, because 1 won't be
there 15 years from now to see what the shrubbery looks
like, because I am sick. There are five on our block now
are original owners, that this morning your decision depends
on whether we stay in Miami, that we have been here all of
our lives, and support this City and pay our taxes , or if
we shall move. This is your decision, this morning. i am
not questioning you, please believe me, but as you as the
bank, you say you cannot speak. I am not questioning your
integrity or anything, but if the drive-in tellers go along
N.K. 39th Ave. the 30 foot easement is taken away from
our 50 present, from the sidewalk to the wall. We are going
to sell. This is almost a must.
Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: I also asked Mr. Bush to respond, and
I'd like to hear from him.
Mr. Bush: I'll be brief and I just want to ask Mr. Arboleya
one question. He said why didn't I call a police officer, I am
a police officer, and I have been over there many times.
Mr. Arboleya: I know you are but I understand you have
no jurisdiction in that area, or Coral Gables.
Mr. Plummer: Ken, is there anything with a possibility
of a 6 ft wall, or deeper shrubbery or the closing of the
llth Street if they were to concur with that, that would
make this more acceptable to the residents. What I am looking
at right now, I'll be truthful with you. Right now we can
force certain things, but I believe by the action of the
Commission this morning, we can completely hide the situation
from you, and that is what I am asking, solely that question,
if we raise the wall to beyond what is eye level, if we insisted
on more shrubbery, and possibly the closing of the llth Street
exit to make the traffic either go back, to 37th Avenue or just
close that exit off completely, would this make it more acceptable
if we grant that, then we can attach the stipulations that we
can enforce. I am just asking you to comment on that.
Mr. Bueh:Mr. Plummer it is hard for me to answer, when
1 passed that petition around, it was on the three variances,
these people were strictly against losing their 50 Ft. also
the teller windows and the exit. The exit itself we would
like that eliminated, and put traffic back out on 37th Avenue,
which would be fine. I believe there is talk at one time of a
block fence plus the green hedge along, even covering the block
wall itself. According to the picture it doesn't look like that
is there, i don't know.
Mt. Plummer: We can stipulate that, that is what I am trying
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to say.
Mr. gush: The main thing ie that fence moved closer
to us. What is the necessity of moving the fence closer to
us? Why do they have to do that. With that, just like I am
saying, which ie something that is brought to my attention.
I believe it is the commission that grants the permit for
those carnivals to appear there. That is where the trouble
is as far as the bath rooms.
Mr. Plummer: That is very easy because not one of you
have seen fit to call me, because attached to the stipulation
and Mr. Ferencik don't you run off sir, because you know
where the blame lies if there is blame. Attached to the
stipulation in the granting of that carnival, as I recall
no live animals, you can laugh, there is to be at least
a minimum of 8 police officers, and no living on the grounds.
If that is the case, I was over there to the last carnival.
I didn't think to look behind the shopping center where they
were hiding trailers, but had one of you called, we could
have done something about it, so I am saying we can't be
all places at all times, but if this is brought to my attention.
I personally went and inspected the carnival, personally, as
the one held in the dog track, had that been brought to my
attention, you can bet something would have been done. about
it. Ken, all I am saying to you, if we grant this we can put
any stipulation on it we want, and if the stipulations are
not adhered to, this Commission has the authority to do
something about it. If you don't approve this today, what
is going to be done and can be forced to be done, is going
to be minimum. That is what I am trying to tell you in a
nutshell. I have asked Mr. Bush to respond.
Mr. Bush: I would appreciate anything you could do
in behalf of the residents there, and what we have asked.
If you see fit to approve some of these things, there is
nothing more I can do. I don't want to see any of these
things approved that we spoke about earlier, but if you
can see fit any of it, to rescind any of it, I'd appreciate
anything you can do on it.
Mr. Arboleya: The one thing I think some of these
neighbors are not realizing, that once this back side of
the shopping center is improved, lighting is put on there.
A lot of the problems that have been happening throughout
the years are going to be immediately corrected. I would
also like to mention to you that every single one of those
have been approved by Metro Dept. of engineering
by your planning staff, in other words we have actually changed
and rechanged that plan to conform with all of their requirements.
the traffic flow, the exits, the wall which we were opposed to
originally, we have agreed to it, in other words we have done
every single thing that has been asked of us. We are not refusing
to do anything, but I think asking anything additional would come
to a point of
Mr. DuBreuil: Mr. Plummer,---- Mrs. Wright used my name
in vain and I'd like to clarify one thing, and I certainly
have feeling for Mrs. Wright. Her children grew up in that
area, my cousin lived acrods the street and at the time we
had to make the decision, she put all kinds of pressure on me,
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but at the sage time, their children over the years grew
up and played on this 50 foot buffer zone, she herself said
there are only 5 original Owners, that is from an economic
stand point. If Mrs Wright would like to sell her house,
I would be happy to pay her three times today what she paid
for it 15 years ago. I lived in Little River, I lived on
N.W. 2nd Avenue and 62nd Street, I lived at 3705 N.W. 23rd Court
today I live in Coral Gables, I was able to up grade myself a
little bit but the areas changed. Our families moved out as
the areas changed..When I lived in Little River there was only
about 300,000 people. That was 48 years ago. Today Little River
has changed. This area I'll admit, has been, ---the very fact
that all that landscaping, we agreed to put the wall on there.
Mayor Ferre: We are a half hour behind. I think it
time to get on with the voting. We have heard both sides
of this.
Mr. T.J. Sistrunk: I live at 920 N.W. 39th Avenue, and
back to Mr. DuBreuil with federal housing. I honestly believe
we were used, the neighborhood was used in that federal housing
is my personal belief, and this buffer strip, setback was given
to the neighborhood, R-1 zoning, to keep the peace and tranquility
in the neighborhood, and we agreed to it. I urge the Commission
to make them live up to it.
Mayor Ferre: Come on, Jasper, you said it before, are
you going to say something new? Don't say anything you don't
have to.
Mr. Andre: I am not going to say anything I don't have
to, because Mr. Plummer said that. He said come up with an
alternative, what he thought would be maybe acceptable to
the residents. I like to keep these residents, we are there
more than 5 years.
Mayor Ferre: We want you to stay there.
Mr. Andre: Consider that drive-in teller, ----
Unidentified person: We have been here many many times,
for all kinds of things, we have worked with the people that
were moving in, we have worked with the residents, --please
eliminate the exit on llth Street and stick to the 50 ft
setback. The 6 ft wall I think they will buy.
Mr. Arboleya; It has been said, why don't we put the
drive-ins in the front. The drive-ins cannot be put in the
front because the existing leases with the stores prohibit us
to do so, and the other point is, addressing myself to Mrs.
Wright, when she is so afraid to be in her home, etc. my wife
was mugged and robbed yesterday in the downtown area right in
front of Mr. Ferre's building and this is happening all over
twin.
Mayor Ferre: I think it is time for us to make a decision
here. The chair will entertain a motion.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I am going to have to be a little
lengthy but I have to get it all incorporated. Mr. Mayor I see
this, you know it is hard to go against the impassioned plea
of a woman who tells you that you are going to kill her. Coming
from an undertaker that is bad. I've got to believe, and I honestly
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that the granting of th#.s application which the modifications
which I will put forth, will make this a better area in which
to live. It will give this Commission and the administration
the authority and the arm to move in immediately if these
stipulations are not complied with. I will move you the
following motion, that this application be granted with
the following stipulations: No. 1. that the wall which exists
be raised to a level of 6 ft. No. 2, that the landscaping be
adequate to hide the wall, from the outside view, I believe
the landscaping inside is adequate, and even though I don:t
have -to have a NO. 3, I am going to, and the reason I say I
don't have to have it, is,because the present egress on llth
Street I am told exists illegally anyhow, but I will add a
No. 3 in this terminology, --that any egress to the north,
shall only be allowed to exit onto 37th Avenue. I think that
says it all. 1 want the assurances and i don't want to add
a number 4 unless it is necessary, but if it is necessary
I'll add it, that all the code compliance be lived up to
as it relates one, lighting, two, drainage, adequate drainage,
and I am sorry Ken, if I've reduced the value of your hone
by not making it waterfront, --lighting, drainage, and I am
going a step further, and this applies not to you Carlos,
but to the owners, that adequate maintenance be adhered to.
I can't spell that out, but I think Mr. Arbeleya knows that
he is an honorable man, is dialing with honorable men and
women, and that if he doesn't: live upto that provision, he
will be in trouble. I am to modify my No. 3 provision and
have the shopping center remove before a certificate of
occupancy is issued, the illegal egress on llth Street, and
here is the zinger, that all of this shall be subject to
review 12 months from the date of occupancy.
Mr. Mayor I offer that, and I aac sorry that I had to
be lengthy, but I offer that in the force of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, I want you to know I excuse
you this time, because it is a difficult problem, and I thought
you were brief in comparison to what you usually do.
Rev. Gibson: J. L. that review 12 months after, is that
what you said, what happens after the first 12 months?
Mr. Plummer: If he does not live up to the agreement
he will at his own expense remove the drive-in tellers. But
I want to correct one thing. Ken you made a bad statement,
and I want to correct you. This thing can become emotional
and I understand it already has. But we will make the decision
in the same way we are making decision today, at the end of
one year, or subsequent to that if he doean't live up to it,
you can come in anytime in the interim and bring to our attention
for possible action, but what 1 am saying is, that at the end
of 12 months that this Commission feels he has not complied,
that we have the right and he agrees, at his expense to remove
the drive-ins.
Mr. Arboleya: Mr. Mayor, and Mr. Plummer, 1 am a little
confused, the recommendation coming before the commission,
after many sessions with the planning board, called for a
4 ft wall.
Mayor Ferre: He has increased that to 6 ft.
Mr. Arbeleya: My thinking is, and I am not thinking of
dollars, I am thinking a 6 ft wall, and I said this going to
look like a Russian wall blocking off the shopping center from
the neighbors, going to look very bad. The 4 foot wall a -
mended by the staff, with the proper greenery , proper
shrubbery , proper mains, with a sprinkler system, we wouldn't
be putting in a sprinkler system if we wern't going to keep
the thing.' think it is more than sufficient. I don't that
is the issue that these people are claiming. They don't want
to lose the 30 ft. buffer zone. That is their issue.
Mayor Terre: The motion has been made and seconded, ----
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Arboleya, I did make the statement that
you will provide sufficient landscaping on the outside of the
wall to hide the wall. That is a lot of landscaping.
Mr. Arboleya: Also point No. 2 Mr. Plummer, in the
notion is, that the llth Street exit is illegal, I know
nothing about that point. The Highway Patrol uses that exit,
this was some negotiation with Tallahassee, ----I feel from
a practical point of view , I am possitive that most of the
traffic is going to circle around for convenience purposes
and come back out, that it would be improper planning to
close that exit into llth Street because you are going to
leave the complete back of the shopping center without an
exit except on 37th Avenue. The 3rd thing is that Dade County
has already authorized a traffic light on that corner, at our
request.
Mayor Perre: Let me answer that if I may. You have
heard his position, now I am going to tell you mine. This
is another one of these typical problems where, ----that
we are living with in Miami. It is nobody's fault because
35 or 40 years ago, when the zoning regulations were made
for the City, nobody knew that all these things were going
to happen, so as a consequence, because of poor planning
40 years ago, we end up all the time with single family
homes abutting commercial areas, and as these commercial
areas:grow they really infringe on the rights of the home
owners. It is tragic, there isn't a meeting ladies and
gentlemen that we have where your problem doesn't come up.
Just a different neighborhood that is all, but it is the
sage problem over and over again. At this stage of the game
the only thing we can do is to try to compromise so we can
protect you as much as possible and come to some logical
reasoning conclusion. Sometimes we can't do that and we
have to turn down these applications. And we have done that.
The point I want to make to you Mr. Arboleya, the only way
I will vote for this, if we go tb the maximum protection of
the residential neighborhood, and that means we can't go to
buffers, to a 6 or 10 ft wall, if that what does it, and full
landscaping in front of it, and closing off exits if we have
to, into the residential neighborhood, and you are just going
to have to live with it, and if you don't then I'll tell you
there is one vote you don't have. They have to live with the
reality of the situation and they don't like it. By the same
token you have to live with the reality of the situation and
you don't like it, and you have to realize that we must compromise
and this is it.
Thereupon the following resolution was introduced by Mr.
Plummer who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-970
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE MODIFICATION OF
CENTRAL SLOPPING PLAZA DEVELOPMENT ON TRACT
"A", CENTRAL SHOPPING PLAZA (66-79), LOCATED
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AT APPROXIMATELY 3875 NORTHWEST SEVENTH STREET,
AS PER ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XIII, SEC-
TION 4, TO INCLUDE AN EIGHT -STORY BANK AND OFFICE
STRUCTURE, AS PER MODIFIED PLAN, DATED AUGUST 6,
1974; ZONED C-1A (PLANNED SHOPPING CENTER); THAT
THIS APPLICATION BE GRANTED WITH THE FOLLOWING
STIPULATIONS: 1. THAT THE WALL WHICH EXISTS BE
RAISED TO A LEVEL OF 6 FEET: 2. THAT THE LAND-
SCAPING BE ADEQUATE TO HIDE THE WALL FROM THE
OUTSIDE VIEW; 3. THAT ANY EGRESS TO THE NORTH
SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED TO EXIST ON 37TH AVENUE;
4. THAT THERE BE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE AS TO
LIGHTING AND ADEQUATE DRAINAGE; 5. TIIAT ADEQUATE
MAINTENANCE BE ADHERED TO BY THE OWNERS; 6. THAT
ALL OF THE ABOVE SHALL BE SUBJ ECT TO REVIEW TWELVE
(12) MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF OCCUPANCY
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file inthe City Cle]'s office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Graham, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES:
None.
NOTE:This was readopted later during the meeting as Item #76.
PROCLAMATIONS. CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION, PLAQUES
(a) COMMENVAtTON TO FIRE CHIEF HICKMAN
The Mayon. head a commendation to pine Ch.ieb Von A. Hickman
bon his unstinting e66onts in supenv,i,sing hescue opekations
in the cottapse o6 a bu.itd.i.ng on August 5th.
Chie6 Hickman was ats o pries ented with a ptaq ue bet members
of a EXCHANGE CLUB OF MIAMI to keeogn.ize his e6jonts and
the ei 6on.ts o 6 the men o 6 the Pine Veparttment in the cottap6 e.
o6 a u.itd.ing on August 5tk.
(b) Pn.octamat,ion o6 HAVASSAH MEMBERSHIP MONTH
(c) Reaotution o, condotences to the bam,ity of ,the tate
HENRY W. KORNER
(d) Res otut Lon o 6 condolences to the 6am.i.ty o s .the tate
JAMES H. ECHOLS
(el Pnoctamat.ion ob 0ctobek 1974 thnu May 1974 as
CHARLES IVES CENTENNIAL FESTIVAL MONTHS
Presentation to F. Wanhen O' Re.itty
(b) Ret.Ln.ement Ptaque presented to MIRIAM GLOWACKI .in necogn.itLon
o6 33 years o6 senv.iee to the City 06 Miami
9, GRANT PERMISSION FOR 2 YEARS LOT 12, C& I PEACOCK AMD
34n5 MAIN HIIHWAY FOR PARKING LOT
Mayon Fenne: The appt.icant .id Sunny pnopentics, .is the applicant here?
Mr. Alan Rothstein: Yes Sir. I am here on a matter at the location
which was just read where there is presently an existing parking lot.
On one side there is some stores and in the back there is some apart-
ments. There is ingress and egress from Main Highway and egress and
ingress from Mc Farland.
What was done, was we filed an application to be in good and total
order and we have added some parking spaces. We have straightened it
out, we have agreed to put in bicycle racks. We have changed it from
egress and ingress on Main to ingress only . The requirement of .the
apartments is such that there must be ingrese legally maintained and I
believe that was why the Department recommenced denial.
Since that time, it has been called to their attention that legally
we are required to keep it open, at least for ingress. The Department
hopes, it fully complies with the code.
The reason we are here is, in the interim, Coconut Grove Zoning Ordinance
required specific approval of everything that goes on in the Grove.
We are within code to comply. Our plan is satisfactory to the departments.
The Departments have said to us that they hope at some time there should
be a full dev elopment here rather than to maintain this as parking lot.
I am going to relay that message who own the property with the respectful
request that you follow the advice of the zoning board and give us' the
permission to proceed.
Mr. Andrews just reminded me that we have so designed the ingress and
egress at the suggestion of the department so that it will be almost
impossible for any one to try to make a left turn accross Main Highway
so that it will almost positively be only ingress thru a right turn
and its almost impossible the way we have designed the parking for
instance, so that they can't make a left turn.
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Mr. Hinckley: Name is Gregg Hinckley, 3601 Solono Road representing
the Coconut Grove Civic Club.
We object because the parking void would ruin the compatibility of the
retail area and the master plan for Coconut Grove does state in its
goals that they want mandatory retail on the first floor. Under
community goals, it says, future development is compatible in use with
existing development. Under the proposed zoning of the C2-A, a rec om-
mendation for the Village Center, they recommended at least 70% of the
lot frontage should be devoted to building space and that's it.
The intent, in the back and the appendix says to maintain the continuity
of prime retail service or related use frontage under C2-A and you might
relate this to maybe Miracle Mile. Would you want a parking lot breaking
up Miracle Mile?
Mr. Rothstein: if I may, I think this gentleman and I have just said
almost the same thing. We have the parking lot there and we are
trying to put it in good order. The Department have appraised us of
this plan and I surely can tell you that the owners of the property
might be in a much better position economically to do exactly what
the proposal is and that is to put in retail establishments or
whatever and I am sure they are going to want to do it so all we are
doing is straightening out a situation that already exists and I agree
wholeheartedly.
Mr. Hinckley: Well the future intent then is to build stores. There
probably is a precedent for limited use for a certain length of time,
it would be improved.
Mr. Rothstein: 1 think this is an interim use area we are talking
about. We are not in conflict because these people want to make the
best economic use to the extent of the code. I understand that
there will be a hearing on the 19th on the overall plan.
I am sure they, or their representatives will be here to find out what
is going on but I am going to take it up with them right away.
It's economically foolish to have that remain for any period of time
and its not a "charge" parking lot. It's a parking lot for the
existing apartment building that is there.
Mayor Ferre: We have heard both sides now. Are there any questions
from the Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Isn't this the property where the building fire was?
Mr. Rothstein: This is the part of clearing up. It's part of adjoining
to the existing -
Mr. Plummer: As far as I am concerned, it definitely would be an
improvement.
Mayor Ferre: Any further questions? Any motions?
Mrs. Gordon: Some of us think perhaps that we are in. the midst of a
zoning hearing and that not just this case, but any other cases that
fall within that jurisdiction, that we at least ought to wait until
after next week until we have that hearing.
I think that would be a logical chain of events.
Rev.Gibson: J.L., how do we respond to the people who were here at
our last regular meeting? We promised them that any and all activity
you remember the man on 41 highway and 27th Avenue.
Who remembers that?
We told those people that we wanted them to wait.
Sir, all I am trying to understand is consistency of dealing with -
if you tell me how, I keep faith with them -
Mr. Rothstein: I can tell you vary easily because what we are asking
for is there. The only thing this does is make it better because it
prevents left turn and right turn and it prevents the outflow and it
prevents the disorder and the flow onto Main Highway and Mc Farland.
We are not changing use because its a parking lot already.
The only thing you are allowing us to do is to put it in good• order
and set it up with 4 more parking spaces, pave it, put in the
landscaping and make it better than it is because while you may have
a hearing on a plan scheduled for next week, that plan may go on and
On,
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This is a decided improvement. It's not a change of use nor any new
construction. It's exactly what there is except you are improving
the situation by making it something that changes everything.
Mr. Plummer: Father, let me answer your question. 1 appreciate Mr.
Rothstein trying to answer it for me but what he says is true.
You asked me how to I equate or how do I justify.
Well very simply Father, what we did before, I think, the intent of
J.L.PLummer was to buildings. This is not construction at G.11.
This is really making legitimate something that already exists but
letting them do it in a nicer fashion. Now if this was for construction,
I would feel differently but this is just simply to re -do landscape,
come up to code as far as a parking lot is concerned.
Rev. Gibson: All I want to do is keep the faith. The people who were
here left here with the understanding that we were not going .to make
any major changes in that area until such time as -
Now Mr. Plummer said we are not really doing anything other than what
is already there. You understand?
In other words, what is being done now may be illegimate, is going to
legitimize and make it look even better.
Mr. Plummer: That is what I am saying Father but another point that
has been completely overlooked and the people of Coconut Grove who
came down here, you might recall that this Commission even got into
a point in reference to parking. They cried for parking and even
went to the extent of asking the off-street parking authority to look
into the possibility of building a garage in Coconut Grove business
area which every one of the merchants without question said, we need
parking. Now this is parking. This is not construction. This is just
for parking.
Rev. Gibson: All right Sir, you understand what he said, you are not
just disagreeing? All right.
Mr. Rothstein: Within 2 years, I am confident they will be in with
some kind of plan to build something there so 2 years is fine with me.
Mrs. Gordon: What concerns me and really maybe it doesn't exactly
apply to what you are saying right this minute but we are going to
hear a number of other items similar to this and if we are going to
take this posture on one, I don't see how we can take another posture
on another, meaning that, in my opinion, I would prefer that you
would willingly allow us to defer this item until after our next -
Mr. Rothstein: No, I can't do that and let me tell you why.
Because, there is already permitted parking there and people are coming
into areas that is not laid out well, because they are just doing it
and there is no guard there to stop them. They are making left turns
and they are going in and out and its not a good situation.
All we are trying to do is what is there legally, and then when the
building burned down, there was a lot of open space and people were
going helter skelter. We are trying to make it something good
and protect Main Highway. 2 years is not a problem because I am
sure economically, certainly within 2 years these people are going
to have to come in with some proposal, some plan to do something with
it along the lines of what this gentleman said, retail stores, whatever
but there is no point to delay a parking lot that is there, that we
want to landscape and prevent going out onto Main Highway.
We want to prevent traffic interruption.
Mrs. Gordon: I would really like to go and take a ]ook at it and
specifically note whether or not the things you are saying are in
fact things that I know.
Mr. Rothstein: Well I think you can ask your Planning Department and
they can tell you without hesitation, just what the situation is and
that it's a messy parking lot and this will landscape it and this will
look beautiful and they informed us what they wanted in this and we just
put it in.
Mrs. Gordon: To the Planning Department. You know what we are facing
right now, okay and you have recommended denial. Have you withdrawn
your denial recommendation?
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Mr. Acton: No.
Mrs. Gordon: All right, what did you base that denial recommendation
Mr. Acton : Based on the findings of the Coconut Grove Master Plan
Study, the fact is that we believe that it should be developed as
retail space.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you believe that a temporary granting of permit for
parking would then prohibit that for future development in the manner
you are describing?
Mr. Acton: No► as long as there is a set date on the length of time
that they can use that parking.
Mr. Rothstein: That's why I said about the 2 years.
Rev. Gibson: I am going to offer.
property when , I mean if you don't
up or ship out in 2 years time, you
got -
on?
I hate to deny a man the use of his
do what you are going to do, ship
tell your client that they know they
Mr. Rothstein: I will show them the resolution showing the 2 years.
Rev. Gibson: All right, I just want to make sure and in view of the
fact that you are not disagreeing, I want the record to reflect that
you represent the Coconut Grove Civic Club and you are not disagreeing?
Okay, I offer it to grant for no more than 2 years.
As presented to the Planning Board.
Mr. Plummer: Second the motion.
The following resolution was introduced by Reverend Gibson who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-973
A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION, AS PER ORDINANCE
8142, TO USE N. E. 50.4' OF LOT 12, C&I PEACOCK AND
(B-70), LOCATED AT 3405 MAIN HIGHWAY FOR PARKING LOT
AS PER PLAN ON FILE FOR A PERIOD OF NO MORE THAN TWO
YEARS, BEING IN THE COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS VILLAGE
INTERIM ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL
BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH INGRESS FROM MAIN HIGHWAY
AND INGRESS AND EGRESS TO MAC FARLANE; ZONED C-2
(COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL)
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the City Clerks Office)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Messrs. Plummer, Reboso,
Mrs. Gordon, Reverend Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None
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10, GRANT PERMISSION TO INC_UDE
PLANNED SUOPPI IG CENTER - "AIRPARK PLAZA"
Financ. at Fede .at Swing dnd Loan
Mayor ?erre announced a company he was associated with had an
outstanding mortage on this property and that he would abstain► front
voting on this item and left the Connission Chambers.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Acton, you have recommended this subject to a detailed
landscape plan, is that dorrect?
Mr. Acton: Correct.
Mr, Plummer: There tNre no ojectors of record?
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-974
A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION AS LISTED
IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XIII, SEC-
TION 4, TO PERMIT INCLUSION OF FINANCIAL
FEDERAL SAVINGS AND LOAN BANK IN PLANNED
SHOPPING CENTER, BEING TRACT "B" AIRPARK
PLAZA (92-35), LOCATED AT NORTHWEST CORNER
OF NORTHWEST SEVENTH STREET AND FIFTY -SEVENTY
AVENUE, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY RESOLUTION NO.
42302 TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PER PLAN ON FILE,
ZONED C-1A (PLANNED SHOPPING CENTER)
(Here follows body of resolution, Omitted here and on file
in the City Clerks Office)
Upon being seconded by Reverend Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote - AYES; Messrs. Plummer, Reboso,
Mrs. Gordon, Reverend Gibson and NOES: NONE. ABSTAINING: Mayor Ferre.
11, VARIANCE - LOTS 20, 21, 22 - BUCK 4 - RAILROAD SHOPS
INTERSCHOOL TRACT. FOR CHURCH
241 N. W. 54TH STREET
Paul Ryan: 7250 S. W. 41 Street, representing the members of the
congregation. It;s a hardship on us now trying to get the building
operated. We are asking for is a variance on about a third. 3000
ft. of the property will be paved and will be used heavily. 12,000
feet we want to sod with grass and landscape.
Mr. Plummer: How many parking spaces are you providing Sir?
Mr. Ryan: I think there is 50 parking spaces.
Mr. Plummer: You are providing 50? How many seats will you have in
the church?
Mr. Ryan: 175.
Mr. Plummer: What is the reason for your denial Mr. Acton?
Mr. Acton: Mr. Plummer, I would have to read our entire statement as
it pertains to this property. The subject petition is for a waiver of
parking requirements for an indefinite period of time on a large portion
of the site.
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The applicants site plan indicates that he wishes to sod this portion
of the site but use the sodded area for vehicular parking. The plan
also reflects that in order for the applicant to meet the required
number of parking spaces which is 50 for church use, the landscape
requirements for off-street parking would have to be waived.
Without the waiver of the landscape, a variance for several parking
spaces would be required. The subject parcel is located in the Edison
Park Neighborhood Development Program area adjacent to properties
currently under development by the Department of Housing and Urban
Development to low income housing and housing for the elderly.
The general lack of amenities along N. W. 54th Street surrounding
residential neighborhood. Waiving of paving and landscaping requirements
for any amount of time is not in the public interest.
A high wall close to the bulk of the subject property from view of
pedestrians and motorists on 54 st., the parking lot could be viewed
from a large existing gate. That is basically the essence of our
report.
Mr. Plummer: What you are telling me is he doesn't have 50 legitimate
parking spaces under our code.
Mr. Acton: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: So in other words, you are not going to have any paved
parking under our code with the appropriate landscaping?
Mr. Ryan: There will be about 12 parking spaces we will have to pave
anyway, where they get the main traffic in and out. The rest of it
will be used only about 3 times a week and will be sodded and kept in
good condition.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, you know how I feel about the law and these
codes. I would think under the circumstances that you would let the
church have that property and use that property for a given period of
time hopefully that at the end of that time, they would have raised
enough money. It's hard to raise that money. If you stipulate a time -
Mr. Ryan: If it becomes a nuisance, we will do it right away.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any objectors present? No, he is an attorney
for the church.
Mrs. Gordon: It seems to me there is nothing wrong with granting
this because they have the land to pave anytime that they would need
it so do it now.
The following resolution was introduced by Reverend Gibson who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-975
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE
NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 3, TO PERMIT
CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITION TO AND CONVERSION OF
EXISTING STRUCTURE ON LOTS 20, 21, and 22, BLOCK
4, RAILROAD SUDPS INTER -SCHOOL TRACT (3-192)
AT 241 N. W. 54 STREET TO CHURCH, WAIVING PAVING
REQUIREMENTS ON PORTION OF OFF-STREET PARKING
LOT, REMAINDER TO BE SODDED; PROPERTY ZONED C-5,
(LIBERAL COMMERCIAL)
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerks Office)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Messrs. Plummer, Reboso,
Mrs. Gordon, Reverend Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None
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Mr. Southern, City Cls Mr. Mayor, was that an amendment that Rev.
Gibson put in there about coming back every 2 years?
Reverend Gibson: I think they ought to come back every 2 years.
Let Us hope that .after 2 years y,u will have some money. If you
don't have the money, you come back again, but just tell the Congregation
that you have to raise that money.
Mr. Lloyd: As this is a variance, I would suggest that the resolution
remain the same. The fact that you have it in the record, I think
would be sufficient.
12, CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION -- SELY 180' LOTS 19, 20, 21
BLOCK "A" - FLAGLER MARY BRICKELL
Mayor Perre announced he would -abstain from voting on
this item.
Vice Mayor Reboso asked if any objectors were present and
none appeared.
An Ordinance entitled -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY
OF MIAMI, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
FOR THE SE'LY 180' OF LOTS 19, 20 AND 21, BLOCK
"A" - FLAGLER MARY BRICKELL, (5-44), LOCATED AT
1900 BRICKELL AVENUE, FROM R-1 (One -family) TO
R-3A (Low Density Apartment) AND BY MAKING THE
NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT MAP,
MADE A PART OF SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871, BY REF-
ERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III, SECTION
2, THEREOF; BY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE
SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; AND CONT-
AINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION
passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July
25, 1974, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and
adoption. On motion of Mr. Plummer, seconded by Mrs. Gordon, the
ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title
and passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Messrs. Plummer,
Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Reverend Gibson . NOES: None.
ABSTAINING: Mayor Ferre.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8297.
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13, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS -. SPECIAL PLA1NED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS
DEFL.RRL 1. TSB a.EflE 1BER 2,3 AT 3 P," i
Mr. Acton: Planned Development is a distinct type of land development
which reflects the way the building industry converts vacant land
urban uses and as planned development grows in size, and in the resulting
impact, of very large projects, regulation increases at all levels of
government. This is best probably best illustrated by the Florida
Land Environmental Act passed in 1972 which requires developers of
projects of regional impact to prepare a regional impact statement
which analyzes the development effect on regional systems.
In rather a small response to a long felt need, zoning has developed
a variety of new controls over the past few years, These controls
may have been developed recognizing the need to service various public
objectives which have been expanding rapidly over the past 5 to to years.
Examples of this are such new zoning techniques as transfer of development
rights, land unit development, bonus zoning incentives, historic
preservations and many more.
The City of Miami, the department has long recognized the need to enact
zoning enabling legislation which would in effect provide for special
land development zoning ordinances which will have a wide range of
application where the public interest is to be served. The S.P.D.
Ordinance is item 15a onthe agenda is a broad flexible tool, legally
grounded in the requirement that zoning regulations have a substantial
relation to public interest yet the ordinance involves a number of
variables which will provide flexibility in a city adapting to various
regulating needs. The enabling legislation as proposed by item 15a
requires that Planned development legislation must have a statement
of intent which indicates how a substantial public interest is to be
served by the particular ordinance that is to be enacted to guide
development in the public interest.
Secondly, it must also spell out the effect of the regulation and either
do one of 2 things #1 - it can provide a new ordinance to replace the
existing zoning ordinance or #2 - it can modify various portions of
existing ordinances .
Item 15b is an example of special planned development ordinance will
be enacted to meet a particular public need.
On September 19th you will be listening to the Coconut Grove Master
Plan prepared by the Planning Department which will give an example of
second type which is called an overlay and puts severe restrictions on
various portions of the number of the existing zoning ordinances in
Coconut Grove as it pertains to the regulation of the height.
It modifies certain portions of the existing ordinance.
I want to make it clear to the Commission that item 15a is the enabling
legislation the City has to have in order to enact present and future
regulations as they pertain to particular public objectives.
I can give an example which I am sure will be of interest to the Mayor
is the use of this tool, say in enacting downtown pedways. We could
use this for a large area where the public objective is to create a
pedway which for the most part would be on a public right of way but
would connect buildings etc.
Very simply, that is what item 15a is all about. It is the enabling
legislation that allows us to enact 15b and also future applications.
Mrs. Gordon: George, are you saying :that what we did before when we
enacted interim zoning classifications, we did it without this?
Mr. Acton: No that is a different animal. This is called the "New
Zoning" - techniques that have come out expanding public interest.
The Interim zoning districts would still act in the same fashion they
do now. In the future, what the City will be doing is actually telling
various owners of public property that to meet public objectives, they
must do certain things.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean private property.
Mr. Acton: Sorry, private property.
Mrs. Gordon: You are setting up guidelines.
Mayor Ferre: No we are not setting up guidelines. What I think we are
doing is passing an enablin, act which is a legislative procedure.
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That would be
things.
Mrs. Gordon:
the vehicle that would then permit us to do these other
There are Borne guidelines in the act aren't there?
Mr. Plumdner: In 15b.
Mrs. Gordon: Would this apply for instance under the community develop-
ment program that may be coming forth in the coming year where a
particular area may be designated for re -development?
Mr. Acton: Yes, it could be used in many many ways to meet public
objectives.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, when was this document distributed to the
members of the Commission?
Mr. Acton: With the agenda I assume Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre:
know if I am
first time I
Mr. Plummer:
No, it was not distributed with the agenda. I don't
the only one and if so I plead guilty but this is the
have seen this.
With the supplemental items yesterday.
Mayor Ferre: Let me at the outset say that I am philosophically for
what you are trying.to achieve here.
I do think these type of things Mr. Andrews, and this is not the first
time I have had to make this statement. If you are expecting this
legislative body to pass legislation, now we cannot confuse the
administrative role with the legislative role and you ask us to pass
legislation and this is the administrations request.
I think it certainly requires a certain amount of -
Mr. Andrews: Time for you to digest it and understand it -
Mr. Plummer: Not in defense of anyone, and granted we did not get this
in completed form but of course the law was complied with by virtue of
the fact we had all of the minutes which went into just reams and reams
of paper of where the Planning Board went through this item.
One item from the minutes I am confused on, the question was asked of
you, could this same zoning be applied to Fair Isle and your answer was
no. Would you go into why your answer was no?
Mr. Acton: That was an incorrect statement. As you know, any private
party can petition the City for any zoning classification that is on
the zoning ordinance but the reason I said no in answer to the question
was that it could be the interpretation that because and we are getting
into the next item which is SPD 1.
The way it is drafted, through the intent clause and through certain
references we have made on floor area ratio , it could not be under
the terms of the way its drafted, to be applied to Fair Isle.
Mr. Plummer: But that doesn't preclude the owner coming in and
requesting that this be under that classification?
Mr. Acton: No Sir, as I just said. Any private or any owner of
property in the City of Miami may come in and petition any particular
classification for his property.
Mr.Plummer: I recall when Alan Morris came down here to ask for an
additional floor on the building that he at that time was building -
the 2nd building and during that time, this Commission jawboned,
coerced, threatened, whatever you want to say - fine you want something
additional. What are you going to do for us?
At that time he was able to come forth and gave that park. By the way
that is completed. Have you seen it?
It is used. It is nice and it is something this City can be proud of.
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Mrs. Gordon: Do we have title on that?
Mr. Plummer: Yes and not only title but he spent the money to put
the amenities on it.
Mr. Acton: And he maintains it also.
Mr. Plummer: What I am trying to get in the anology is this.
Here we were able to accomplish something good for this City by
allowing an additional floor.
Now, aren't we really saying that applying or creating this type of
vehicle, that it puts us in the position to do it legally* that if a
man wants to come in and wants bonuses, swapoffs, tradeoffs or what,
that the City then is in a position to evaluate the good that can be
received by the City as opposed to an additional floor or something
of that nature. Am I drawing the proper anology or not?
Mr. Acton: Well the analogy, the question would be.if we applied
a planned development ordinance to the Brickell area
but the example you used is an example of the transfer of development
rights, which is a part of the Planned Development Ordinance where we
say can take the development rights on this parcel and use it on this
parcel provided that -
Mr. Plummer: In the area of Brickell where they have this bonus
system or swapping to do this, we'll allow you to do this. This is
the concept that you are using here and you are applying it to islands.
Mr. Acton: That is exactly right.
Mayor Ferre: The chair would like to ask a series of questions.
First, does this affect the next items that come on the agenda.
Unidentified Person: Yes, Mr. Mayor we wanted to say that we joined
with your staff in 15 a and have no further comment on it at 'all.
Mayor Ferre: I want to comment that the draft which I just received
yesterday and have not had time to read because of the length -
titled development of regional impact etc.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, where did you get that from?
Mayor Ferre: I have been 3 days trying to get it and I finally got a
copy.
Mr. Plummer: That was the thing I was screaming about yesterday.
Mayor Ferre: I finally got a copy of it.
Mr. Plummer: Is there one in the book now?
Mayor Ferre: No Sir, Mr. Cobo got that. I want to make a point of
comment., about this Regional Planning Study and in general because I
can't talk to it specifically.
I want to start by briefly relating the situation. When I was active
in the Chamber of Commerce, Committee of 21, 10 years ago, I was very
very strongly feeling and presented myself before the Dade County
Metro Board. A whole series of authorities. We were talking about a
traffic authority, transportation authority.
You remember that at that time, Eileen who was an assistant to
the then manager really gave me a lecturere whiich I have never forgotten
about public responsibility and the fact that you cannot in the long
run, transfer basic authority that is vested in an elected governmental
body to an authority that does not respond to people, to the public.
Now the point is that you cannot have responsiveness without responsib-
ility. The point I want to make about this draft without having read
it in detail, the thing that concerns me about the 18 points of
criticism, is that here we have a 28 man board, 3 members of which are
from this community, the rest are not. These people are not responsible
to the people of Miami and here they are setting a precedent.
I am not in any way quarreling with their conclusions. I may agree
with them, I don't know.
I resent the fact that under our government structure today, that we
have an entity that is not responsible to the people of Miami making
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decisions for us and 1 don't know who they are responsible to.
They are responsible to people by appointment and to me that has with
it, the seeds of a lot of problems.
I am not in any way speaking against this document. It is just a
philosophy of this whole situation.
Now,,t want to apply that for a moment and I am► sorry Mr. Manager,
t want to ask you a question and t don't mean to embarass you but this
is just a question. I have not read this ordinance that is being
proposed today. Have you read it?
Mr. Andrews: I haven't read it thoroughly, but yea I read it.
Mayor Ferre: You are acquainted with this, and you are recommending
this document?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: I just opened it and I want to point out to you Section
5 on Page 6, Item "A" that reads "Initiation" and it says-
SPD Zoning may be initiated by the Planning Department, The Planning
Advisory Board or the City Commission. I repeat what I said on this
Commission before.
I do not think it is advisable for this elected body to delegate its
authority as elected representatives of the people to any other board
whether they be appointed or part of the administration.
I think that if someone wishes to initiate this, it has to come up
before this Board and it will be this Boards decision whether or not
an SPD Zoning Area will be or will not be initiated.
It's that important a matter. I just happened to pick that straw out
of the air but I relate this to this unfortunate circumstance as I
see it that is beginning to occur with the regional planning agency
of the South FLorida Planning Council.
I think there was a correlation between this and I am reluctant and
leary of this trend,that is beginning to set in throughout our
community and throughout this country because we must not get away
from the fact that responsiveness must be tied to responsibility.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, as your representative to the Dade League
we used this same argument for almost a year saying that we the
people of South Florida, the Cities and municipalities should have
input in this board. I am happy to report to you Mr. Mayor that we
now have more than 3, I think we have 5 out of -
Unidentified Person: There are 19 and we have 3 county and 2 City
but only 3 of them were there the past -
Mr. Plummer: I know that Harvey Ruvin, Beverly Phillips are from
the County and through the persuasion of the Dade League, we have
just and I think they have had their 1st or 2nd meeting, have just
got 2 representatives from the Dade League who sit on that regional
council but it took us over a year of fighting to get representation
and we now have representation in the way of Mr. Charles Glenn, City
of Homestead and Mr. Ray Hodges, Councilman of Hialeah.
That will be among the league and it will be rotated. That was all
I wanted to report to you, that in fact we do now after a years fight,
and we used the same arguments you are using right now and we do in
fact have representation on that board. Not the City of Miami, but at
least we have it through the Dade League -
Mayor Ferre: J.L., that's fine and for the record, I am in no way
criticizing Mr. Glenn or Ray Hodges or Beverly Phillips. That is not
the point. Whether we have 3, 5, or 7, the basic philosophy of my
statement stands, that we have a board which is not an elected board
made up of representation which does not come from this jurisdiction
and it's imposing upon this jurisdiction, certain determinations which
xnay or may not be valid but the point is that is what we stand upon
elections for, to represent this community in making these basic
decisions that affect our community.
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Mrs: Gordon: Let's get the record straight. They are not making
our decisions for us. They are making recommendations only, in that
right Mr.
Mr. P1Um mer: No.
Mrs. Gordon: What do you mean no?
Mr. Plummer: I am saying no. Now, do you want me to answer it?
Fine. First you are right but you' wrong.
They are making recommendations but if we the Commission do not
follow that recommendation, they have the right of appeal to the
Governor 1 believe it is it reverse this decision, am I right in thht
Mr. Acton?
Mr. Acton: Yes, they have the right of appeal to the state cabinet.
Mr. Plummer: Let me say Mr. Mayor, not in defense of what you said
but remember that this is not just a Dade County Board.
This Board comprises Dade, Monroe, Broward and Palm Beach so it does
represent 4 counties and if you take 19 members and divide it by, you
come up with that Miami does, with the additional 2 new members have
1th of the representation or 5 per county.
Let me drop that subject and go to your other subject Mr. Mayor.
You know, Mrs. Gordon and I both served on the Zoning Board before
we came on this Commission and I am not overlooking one fact for one
minute and the final authority of any decision such as this does lie
with this Commission.
I do recall and I think it is a good policy that on many occasions, the
Zoning Board itself initiated studies, which did represent this
Commission, changes of zoning, rollbacks, rollups, whatever you want
to call them and I think Mr. Mayor it is good policy because it gives
another arm the investigative power to make recommendations to this,
but at that time, we did not have the power the Zoning Board has now.
Mayor Ferre: I have no objections to that provided you had as a part
of 5a, that the final decision on whether SPD Zoning -
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, I think there is a misunderstanding -
I'm sure that is perfectly possible if you only got it yesterday.
Initiation simply means, it's our job - the planning department or
the planning advisory board is supposed to recommend to the
City Commission. The City Commission can also recommend to the
department for study or for a particular planned development area.
Mayor Ferre: That is not what this document says.
Mr. Acton: Yes Sir. All this is doing is saying that initiation of a
particular planned development area, may be initiated by the Planning
Department or the Planning Advisory Board or the City Commission
you may say, for instancdito the Planning Department that you believe a
certain area of the City should be a planned development area and based
on that, we will go back and study the area and make recommendations to
the Planning Advisory Board and then back to you.
This is strictly initiation. It has nothing to do with passing zoning
because the City Commission is the only body that can do this.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, you are proving my point and that is this is
much too complex an item for us to be discussing without my having
read it. Now how can I intelligently discuss with you something that
I am completely ignorant of?
I want to make a very strong statement as the chairman of this board
and I want to emphasize and I am going to hold this as long as I am
sitting in this chair. I will nct recognize any item of this magnitude
that has not been given to this City Commission in writing at least
1-week before the day that we hear this and I think its unfair and I
don't understand how in the world you can, and if any of us here are
going to vote on this document today, I think we could be held as
being irresponsible and neglectful of our duties.
How can we vote on a document that we don't even know?
Mr. Ed. Claughton: Mr. Mayor, could I address the board for just a
few minutes and be responsive to your questions?
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It has to do with responsiveness and you know that we all concur from
the applause by the people here supporting this ordinance that they all
agree with you. I don't think there is any argument there.
Your second point about preparation for reading in advance. I think
that it too is a good point. I would like to give you an overview.
I would like to say in laymans terms if I may what you had before you
in the 3 items 15 a, b and c.
Mayor Ferret I will give you that time but I don't think you could
disagree. I don't know about me but on a document like this you are
not going to tell me that you want me to vote on it when you haven't
even been supplied with a copy.
Mr. Claughton: I will address myself to it because I too am a
legislator. I sit at my desk and I have a.staff and I have to rely
on them. You have 3 items before you - 15a, 15b and c.
"A" is an enabling ordinance. First I say, it is impossible fotyou
men and lady in a legislative capacity today in any governmental body
to read everything that comes before you. You have my sympathy.
Let me just say quickly that you can't read everything.
The senate doesn't do it. The House doesn't do it, the government
doesnt do it. You must as I do in my little organization, my staff
over there, I must rely on them and you have a body called the
planning advisory baord and they have considered this for you and
have recommended it. 15a comes to you with the recommendation of your
Planning Board. 15a comes to you with the recommendation of your
staff. 15a comes to you with no objections of anybody that I know.
We are involved in it and I say we recommend it.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Claughton, who signs the checks for your firm?
Mr. Claughton: I do.
Mayor Ferre: I rest my case.
Mr. Claughton: But, I cannot read everything and I will delegate
and I am counting on you and they usually do a good job or we have to
separate company.
15b is the ordinance that 15a enables you all to pass. 15b is a
special island district and is the first of many ordinances that
probably will come to you from staff. George your staff and us are
here to cooperate and tell you we agree completely on it.
You have delegated authority to them and they have come up with
15a, 15b is a new zoning ordinance. This is all done at initiation
and I repeat, initiation and request of your staff, not from Claughton.
15c is the rezoning of my property to the new proposed ordinance which
is 15b. You got a,b,c, and we have no objection whatsoever to,a,b,c.
I have appeared before many government bodies and thank goodness,
this Commission, I don't think falls into that category but there are
too many governmental bodies that say, I think this is fine but -
Or we are in favor of your project Mr. Smith but -
I think that you got a good deal here but -
I think that you all must with the volume of work that you have,
lean on your staff. Lean on your advisory boards and realize that
there is no adversary proceeding here today whatsoever.
You have for once, total cooperation between the public and private
sectors.
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Mayor Ferre: I for one am perfectly willing to spend 2 or 3 hours
it will take to "glance" through these or the 4 or 5 hours it will
really take for Me to read these thouroughly and call a special
meeting if its necessary within the next week if its all right with
this Commission to deliberate on these items. Certainly_i am not at
a point where 1 can vote today.
Mr. Reboso: Mr. Mayor, at this time I move for deferral 15a and 15b
for September 27th.
Mr. Claughton: I hope you will allow the public to speak to this
motion.
Mr. Reboso: I haven't had time to read this ordinance. I think its
too important and I move for deferral. Sept 27th, the next Commission
Meeting.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion of deferral to the 27th.
Mr. Plummer: Are you saying 15a, 15b and 16?
You have 16 as a scheduled item so include that in the deferral.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to this motion?
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mrs. Gordon: I just wanted to say, there is, and we have done it
before, I remember times that we have - moved on first reading and
had amendments, changes, further consultation whatever on second
reading. I just wanted to recall that -
Mayor Ferre: That's a valid point and something we ought to keep
in mind. I would like to ask the members of this Commission whether
they have ever voted on first reading on an important item that they
have not read?
Mrs. Gordon: You are not saying that everybody hasn't read it.
I have read it.
Mayor Ferre: You have read this, the whole document?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Lloyd: May I interject here. May I say that in effect, what
Commissioner Reboso has done is what is known as invoking the 5-day-rule.
Under your rules of procedure, if one Commissioner does this, you don't
even have to take a vote, he has the personal privilege of invoking
that rule and you cannot consider the item if he has done that.
Mrs. Gordon: I know about the 5-day-rule.
Mr. Reboso: If Commissioner Gordon wants to move this to be approved
on first reading, I will withdraw my motion but I am not ready to
vote on first reading, without reading it.
Mrs. Gordon: If you all haven't read it, you have the privilege of
reading it. I have read it.
Mr. Plummer: I raised holy hell around here yesterday. Paul, about
this South Florida Regional Council, the only thing I knew about their
actions waihat I read in the paper. I asked yesterday where is the
49 page document?
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, I would like to clear that point up right
now.
There is no final recommendation by the South Florida Regional Planning
Council. The only report the Mayor has in his possession is the
recommendation by the staff to the council and was issued prior to
the time the council considered the Claughton Island Development.
Mr.' Plummer: Well what did I read in the paper that it was turned
down by a 7-4 vote?
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Mr. Acton: I am speaking of the planning staff that prepares recommen-
dations for the South Florida planning Council, in the same manner that
your department prepares recommendations for you. What the Mayor has in
his hands is the South Florida Regional Planning Department planning
staff recomendation to the council.
Mr. Plummer: That's well and good and except for the one comment that
t read by Beverly Phillips in the article in the paper, I don't know
what basis they used to deny this plan.
I don't know anything about the Regional Planning Council.
As a matter of fact, I have yet to see a resolution of their action.
is a resolution even attached here?
Mr. Acton: I can't answer your question, I don't know..
Mr. Plummer: Let me make the record clear on one other point George.
Do I understand correctly even though it does not state on my agenda
that Item 16 was initiated by your department?
Mr. Acton: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: Okay,; I just wanted that for the record.
Mr. Poe: I am Bob Poe, the Manager of the Claughton Island Project.
Commissioner Plummer, if I could take just one second and touch on
the South Florida Regional Planning Council matter, I would like to
help clarify that a little bit.
They, their staff, and ultimately their council look at a specific
project as we have it planned today and all of the regional impact
elements that relate to it.
After reviewing that material of that specific project, the Board
voted 7-4 to not recommend it to you but recommend denial.
I might also point out that 2/3rds of the Dade County Delegation that
was there voted in favor of the project which speaks again of Mayor
Ferre's point that I think was very well taken.
Mayor Ferre: Say that again.
Mr. Poe: 2/3rds of the Dade County delegation that was at that South
Florida Council meeting, 2/3rds of the councilmen voted FOR the project.
Mayor Ferre: There is my point specifically shown. That here the
people that represent this community are For it and somebody else up
in Palm Beach or Monroe County are making decisions for US.
Mr. Poe: And I think _gentlemen today you do not have our project in
front of you whatsoever nor if you approved all 3 of these items
today, would you in any way permit us to build anything at all.
In fact today, we are permitted with our present zoning to pull
building permits and build residential units.
if you voted this on 2nd reading even a month from now, we would then
be permitted to build nothing without coming again before you, and
having you approve the specific development program in accordance with
the submittals in here.
What I would like Mayor for you to consider, in accordance with
Commissioner Gordons question and I appreciate the 5-day-rule and
what it could mean to this effort today but even if you approve this
on first reading today, and then amend it on 2nd reading a month from
now, if you feel amendments are proper, it will still be in February
before all of the approvals, going back to the Planning Advisory Board
and the time span required for submittals, and coming again, it would
still be February before we will be in a position to begin building.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you. Would it do you irreparable harm to
have this thing postponed 8 days?
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Mr. Poe: Certainly not. It's not that critical an issue that 8 days
makes a difference but we have been working on it very dilligently for
a year and a half and I know that each of you Commissioners have not
been daily involved in that effort but each day that passed has been
one that is lost forever. We know Mayor that today, there is demand
for hotels in the downtown Miami area. We also know that there is a
need for housing in the downtown area if it is very delicately and
properly executed, and that is the situation today, and we are very
responsible people with the financial ability to do that today and
we need this Board's approval to give us that opportunity while the
market is here and the downtown effort is having an opportunity on the
upswing, we would like to keep the schedule moving.
Mayor Ferre: It seems unreasonable to me that we move on a document
which has not been thoroughly aired before this particular public body
and it cannot be thoroughly aired unless we have the opportunity to
read it and Mr. Andrews, I know that you have many many problems on
your hands and I know that there is many difficulties that beset the
City and your office. We have 'crime problems and we have problems in
the Police Department and we have a lot of reorganization to get
involved in. We want to get a police station underway. We have a
budget. We have had vacations and this is the first time since I have
been Mayor that I have publically talked to you this way.
I apologize and I mean no offense but this is the first time that I am
upset and concerned about something that I do not think has any
justification and I plead with you Sir and I ask you in the future to
be very very dilligent and careful on important documents that have
an important thrust into to the future of this city, be careful how
you approach them.
Mr. Poe: Mr. Mayor, we have people here that we brought from Princeton,
New Jersey that are involved in our effort and we are hoping to
participate in debate today to explain the ramifications of this
ordinance to you. Planning is a very technical area and when you are
creating new planning districts, obviously its a legal planning subject.
Mayor Ferre: Unless somebody stops me on this Commission, I would
be happy to give the time to your people to testify unless there is
an objection. I certainly have no objection.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Poe, you would be at a disadvantage by doing this.
Are you saying that you are going to allow debate today, and no decision.
Is that what you're saying?
Mayor Ferre: Not debate. Just a presentation.
Mr. Poe: I think that would probably serve the best interests of
our project and downtown Miami unless this Commission is willing to
consider enacting it on first reading and the 2nd reading a month
from now.
Mr. Plummer: I would buy that because I think in all fairness to
Mr. Claughton, Mr. Poe, and I am sure you have gone to a great deal
of expense to prepare yourself for these hearings and 1 think you
have heard without question, the feelings of this Commission.
I for one would be opposed to hearing this project as large and as
big and as important as this is to our downtown, to hear it piecemeal.
When we sit down to hear this project, if we have to set aside two
hours on an agenda, I think its that important but I for one would
like to hear it all at one time, not piecemeal. I think you would do
yourself and this Commission a disservice to hear something today and
then hold us two weeks from today to remember every point so I then,
Mr. Mayor would object to hearing these people today. I would like
to hear it all at one time.
Mrs. Gordon: I am not going to argue with any of you.here about your
right to read and understand fully what you are voting on.
I do want to point out that 15a and 15b do not permit this applicant
to do anything. He needs to have 15c before application is being
considered as an indtvidual application. 16 I am sorry, is the one
that pertains specifically to your property. The other 2 are
amendatory ordinances on our zoning books and maybe I am more familiar
with this than the rest of you because I am the one that asked the
Planning Dept. to come up with
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a particular plan development for islands because I felt that islands
and this goes back 1'A years ago, or 2 years, should and need to be
treated as a total body and not in fragmented pieces and that they are
unique and have to have a mixture of uses in order to service the
peoplb that are cfn it to cut down on the number of trips that have
to be made off of it.
Now I don't believe that all islands are the same. This does not mean
that I believe that islands that are surrounded by single family
residential zones should have the same kind of consideration that
islands that are surrounded by commercial and high density zoning
should receive and that is the reason why the department has done such
a good job in the way they have set this up but I am perfectly willing
to if you want to call a special meeting next week, if all of us are
available, I will be there.
Mayor Ferret We certainly do not want to do any harm to the project
on Claughton Island.
The impact of this as Mr. Acton on a positive side pointed out, and
it turned out to be a negative, is that it goes beyond this island.
There are a lot of other people and other properties that are involved
on this whole item. I think this is something that we have to
approach with full knowledge and understanding as an elected body.
I am not saying I am for or against it. I am just :paying we have to
be knowledgable. We cannot pass the buck to staff on this.
Mr. Claughton: I understand that completely but I think you need to
and I would like to try to convince you in 30 seconds, the beautiful
part of this procedure is you have a month to do your study and yotlFan vote
opposite a month from now at 2nd reading. You can amend it but the
first reading, the public hearing, is to allow the public to be heard
and they are here. It will not cripple you or the legislative process
at all.
Rev. Gibson: If you have the first reading, I believe you are somewhere
in between obligated to go. I haven't read it and I don't know what
is in it. When you were here the last time Sir, two things I said.
When you come down here, bring the transit authority because I am
concerned about how you are going to get on and off of that island.
Second thing is I am concerned about the existing businessmen and I
have to reward those men some way for having faith to stay where they
are and to have gone there anyway and while they don't make the
decision, I want to hear them.
Third thing I am tremendously concerned about. I want to -put the staff
on guard and on the spot and my fellow commissioners. This morning you
heard a matter on River Drive and talking about the inadequacy of the
sewer system. When you come here now with this I hope we let it all
hang out, you know. I want to know about the traffic; I want to know
about the sewer system. I want to know about those businessmen. Now
the reason the businessmen --listen to this: The State of Florida sent
some people down here not long ago, and we met up in the Library, and
we were talking about the traffic pattern and the bottle -neck up on
Biscayne Boulevard. I am sensitive to that, and all I am saying is
if we are going to let it all hang out I think we should let it all
hang out so that we would all know --and I want to end by saying this:
I am not opposed to the development of the island, because I think
we are going to have to generate business, and we are going to gener-
ate it one way or the other, but I would like to be intelligent as
we proceed.
Mr. Claughton: Let me conclude, if I may, Mayor. I understand
what you are saying, Father. The problem is that I don't think this
Commission understands that this project is not before you today.
Mayor Ferre: We understand that.
Mr. Claughton: This is the first step of about six or seven or
eight steps before the City of Miami government at different levels.
You are going to have every single question, Father, that you raised
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exports on both sides in the future. Now my point to you today is
that you have a non -adversary position here today. You have a second
reading that you can handle a month from now. You have your staff
in favor of it; you have the public in favor of it. You have got a
lot of our public out of work, by the way, and they are here to tell
you about it. And I am not sure that I agree with Lord Acton. There
is somebody else who I can't think of one time said, all that is needed
for evil to prevail, Father, is for good men to do nothing.
Mayor Ferrer Mr. Claughton, this is all getting deep and heavy,
but I want to tell you that my comments have absolutely nothing to do
with Claughton Island. I am sorry that you are affected. I am deeply
sorry that this imposes another week's delay to you, but we have other
than Claughton Island to concern ourselves with in the City.
Mr. Plummer: First of all, you can't have it a week from today.
We have got a meeting already scheduled. We have got a meeting sche-
duled for hearing budget on the 19th, and we have got a hearing on
the Coconut Grove plan.
Reverend Gibson: Let me put a ringer. Brother Claughton, I
want you to hear this ringer. I hope the staff --meaning Mr. Acton
and Mr. Andrews, the Manager, and the City Attorney --and that's why
I ain't going to move on no first hearing today --and I don't care
even if the Lord sends the Angels and Arcangels dowr. here, I am not
going to move. I am going to tell him, I didn't hear you, Lord. Don't
put us in the position when you structure all this business --remember
that fight we had on Fair Isle? Make dog gone sure when you come be-
fore us that you don't put us in a position where the people on Fair
Isle will say, you know, you can't come through the door so you want
to come in through the window, or you can't come through the front
door and you want to go through the back door. Now you just read
where --man I see those developers squirming --I want to make sure you
understand, because I must make sure as I walk around in this commun-
ity that they don't say, look at that S.O.B. I am a clergyman, so I
don't know what that means, you know what I mean, man. So get your
thing together, and make dog gone sure, Mr. Lloyd (City Attorney) that
your word of this is beyond a reasonable doubt, crystal clear that
even the blind man can't err. You understand? Because if you do I
am going to round up all the people over there. You remember what I
said? You know what we went through here about that island business,
and I don't want you to do indirectly what you can't do directly.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask Mr. Acton some questions? I think it
might help everybody when they are studying this, that it might be
clearer. Mr. Acton, the concerns that Father just expressed may be
concerns 'that all the rest of us have, too. I want you to hear me
clearly. The recommendations that you have placed before us today
would not allow the same kinds of development to take place on all
islands. Is that right?'
Mr. Acton: That's correct.
Mrs. Gordon: The criteria for the kinds of development that
would take place on islands would be the kinds of development on the
upland area. Is that correct?
Mr. Acton; That's correct.
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59 SEP 121974
Mayor ferret- Speaking to Item 15A, an ordinance amending for
Siecial planned development districts, is that limited just to
islands?
Mr. Acton: No, not 15A. 15A is the ---
Mayor Ferre; Thank you. Thetis all I wanted. It is not limited
just to islands.
Mr. Rebosos I move again to defer 15A, 15B and 16 until Septem-
ber 27th.
Mrs. Gordon: We have a very heavy agenda that day. Maybe we
could ---
Mayor Ferre: I am perfectly willing to have a special meeting
for this, if you want.
(Brief discussion as to possible special meeting date)
Mr. Cleare Filer: I am Secretary -Treasurer of our Bayshore
Home Owners Association here on behalf of the Tigertail Association
and the Coconut Grove Civic Club. Wayne Allen couldn't make it
today. If you could please give us at least two weeks. We are not
opposed to this. Frankly we spent a fair bit of time with Mr. Acton
on two -or three little revisions in this to, quite frankly, insure
that Fair Isle would have some protections, and it takes time. We
saw him the middle of last week, and we also saw him Tuesday, and
what he has drawn up has been drawn up since Tuesday. I am ;got a
hundred per cent. satisfied, as far as the amendments we came and
talked with him about Tuesday. This is not being critical. It's a
time problem. And I'd like to get with the others on the re -wording
of the several sections. He is not easy to get in to see. He is a
busy man. And to do this in a week or eight or nine days is just a
little too soon for us. We are not opposed to it.
After discussion it was agreed to hold a special meeting at
3:00 P.M. on September 23rd to hear this matter.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask you, Mr. Acton, or somebody, to do a
brief review of your lengthy document, calling out the highlights and
spelling it out -- summarizing it. O.K.? For us.
Mr. Acton: Item #17, Commissioner Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: No, I'm talking about 15a and b, and 16, in a brief summer1
so that when we read it we can see what exactly you are saying without havin,4
to read it that thoroughly as some busy people don't have enough time to do.
Also, would you be able to obtain for us the copies of the original boards
so that whatever information that we may have will help us in making de-
cisions. OK?
Mr. Acton: Yes, we'll gather and send through Mr. Andrews
whatever information is available a week prior to the meeting.
Mrs. Gordon: Right, please.
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14. aRJll 4ANCL A NDitNT - 31 IE AtiERLYLLOKINLPLAtt AP OPAL
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, Item #17
is basically a clarification for what is to be submitted to the
City whenever the Zoning ordinance states that site plan approv.
al is required in the particular zoning ordinance. All this
does is sets up the procedures for public hearings, procedures
for review by the Planning Department and the contents or the
information that is required in terms of site and development
plan submittals. It just lets the applicant know what is re-
quired in terms of information being supplied to the City when
the zoning ordinance calls for site plan approval.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you want to add anything else, Mr. Acton?
Mr. Acton: No, I'm finished, Commissioner Gordon.
Mayor Ferrel That isn't the tree ordinance, is it?
Mr. Acton: No, Mr. Mayor. As I said, this simply is, as an'
applicant it tells you what you have to submit when site plan
approval is called for in the zoning ordinance. That's all it
does. It states the data and so forth.
Mayor Ferre: Is this an ordinance on first reading?
Mr. Acton: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Then it will come up again?
Mr. Acton: Yes, second reading, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: This is a ... This went by the ... the depart-
ment recommends it and the board approved it 7 to 0 and when
was this item submitted to us, just out of curiousity?
Mr. Plummer: On Friday on your agenda kit.
Mayor Ferre: Is that on the agenda kit?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, to my knowledge it was.
Mr. Plummer: George, I'm sorry I was out of the room. Briefly,
what does this do?
Mr. Acton: It just tells the applicants for various types of
under the zoning ordinance if the zoning ordinance calls for
site plan approval it tells the applicant what type of data is
to be submitted to the City so his application can be reviewed.
It states for instance....
Mr. Plummer: In other words it tells him what guidelines he's
got to surrender so you will have the proper
Mr. Andrews: Proper kinds of plans with the information on it
Thereupon the City Attorney read the ordinance by title and the
Mayor announced that each commissioner had been furnished with
a copy of the ordinance and that copies are available to the
public.
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An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871,
THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, FOR
THE CITY OF MIAMI BY ADDING A NEW SEC-
TION 42, ENTITLED "SITE AND DEVELOPMENT
PLAN APPROVAL" TO ARTICLE IV, GENERAL
PROVISIONS, AS HEREINAFTER SET FORTH;
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS,
OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR
AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING
A SEVVERABILITY PROVISION.
was introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Plummer and
passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION - LOTS 5 THRU 12 BLOCK 1
15,
FLORAL PARR FI RST AMENDED
The City Attorney read the ordinance by title and the
Mayor announced that each commissioner had been furnished with
a copy of the ordinance and that copies are available to the
public.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871,
THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE
CITY OF MIAMI, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASS-
IFICATION FOR LOTS 5 THROUGH 12, BLOCK 1,
FLORAL PARK FIRST AMENDED (8-5), LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTHWEST FIFTY-
FOURTH STREET AND FIFTEENTH AVENUE, FROM
C-5 (LIBERAL COMMERCIAL) TO R-3A (LOW DEN-
SITY APARTMENT) AND BY MAKING THE NECESSARY
CHANGES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT MAP, MADE A
PART OF THE SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871, BY
REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III,
SECTION 2 THEREOF; BY REPEALING ALL ORDIN-
ANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN
CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION.
passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 25,
1974, was taken up for its second and final reading by title
and adoption. On motion of Rev. Gibson, seconded by Mrs. Gordon,
the ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading
by title and passed and adopted by the follwoing vote -AYES:
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor
Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORD NANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8298.
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OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED) WORK
16, RIND ACRES HIGHWAY ICIEROYEMENT H-4349
Mr. Plug= Let the record reflect that there are no
Objector') present.
!Mayor Ferre: Any objectors present?
NO OBJECTORS APPEARED.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-976
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUC-
TION OF L. C. MORRIS. INC. FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF REID ACRES HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H--4349 IN
REID ACRES HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4349
AT A TOTAL COST OF $474,282.85; AUTHORIZING AN
INCREASE OF THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT IN THE
NET AMOUNT OF $6,707.85; ALLOCATING THE ADDI-
TIONAL AMOUNT OF $6,846.50 FROM THE ACCOUNT
ENTITLED "STORM SEWER BOND FUND;" AND AUT}ORIZ-
ING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $53, 465. 35 .
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
17, PERSONAL APPEARANCE- REPRESENTATIVE OF COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION INC.
TO DIMUSS - COCONUT GROYE ARTS FESTIVAL IN 1975
Mayor Ferre: Is Mr. High Black here? You're here in his
place. We welcome you. The microphone is yours, right on
schedule - 4:15.
Mr. Glen Wiggins: Mr. Black was unavoidably called out of town
on a legal' matter so he asked me to come here in his stead and
I am vice-president of the Coconut Grove Association. First we
would like to thank the City Manager's Office staff as well as
Mayor Ferre's office staff and Commissioner Rose Gordon's staff
for the interest and cooperation they've given the Coconut
Grove Arts Festival Committee. We would like to ask that these
plans be accepted that we have formulated while working with
the city's office and that is: (a) During the dates February
14, 15, and 16, 1975, close Mac Farlane Road to traffic and use
it as a pedestrian mall as well as an exhibit area for the
artists' displays. Also permit use of the eastern most lane
of S. Bayahore Drive between Mac Farlane Road and the cut over
to Sailboat Bay Apartment House. Metro Traffic Control has
agreed to work with your police Department and the Festival
Committee, is not objecting to the closing of the areas refer-
red to above. Next item: Provides 6 policemen for the three
day period to help with the vehicular and pedestrian traffic
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and for public safety. Next Item: The 1easee of the Dinner
Key Auditorium hag agreed to allow us to use that for parking
during the three days mentioned previously. We would also
ask a blanket license for the use and control of Bayfront Park
and the buildings on it for a headquarters, a first aid station
and supervised activity on the park itself - cultural benefits.
The last item, a granting of a thousand dollar purchase award
for the best water color sponsored by the City of Miami and in
honor of the City of Miami. Thank you. Now are there any
questions? I'll try to answer them.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, this has been reviewed by the manager
it comes to us with his recommendation and I so move it.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, there
is one aspect of this I want to make sure you understand. I'm
recommending that the thousand dollar purchase award be made
because as we build new buildings in the City of Miami under
the Metro Ordinance we are required to provide a certain number
of capital improvement funds towards art work.
Mayor Ferre: You mean we will end up with the art work?
Mr. Andrews: We will own the art work.
The following motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-977
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST OF THE COCONUT
GROVE ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR ASSISTANCE IN
CONNECTION WITH THE COCONUT GROVE ARTS
FESTIVAL IN 1975, DETAILS OF WHICH ARE SET
FORTH IN MEMORANDUM FROM THE CITY MANAGER
DATED SEPTEMBER 6, 1974.
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso, Reverend
Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: While we're on the subject, Mr. Andrews, point
out that the City of Miami Library which is now called Miami
Metro Library has some very good art which is available to
the public and we're part of the public. I might point out
that the Metro Commission has very, I think ably, used that
art in Metro buildings all over and I think we have just as
much right to that art as they do and I would like to, on the
record request that you assign this to somebody to investi-
gate. I think it would be very appropriate to see some art
around here instead of these blank walls. Not in this room,
but around.
Mr. Andrews: All right. I understand. Mr. Mayor, for your
information we know the procedures, we've taken advantage of
them. We have some of the art on a borrowing basis the same
as Metro in some of the rooms in City Hall; maybe not as ex-
tensively as they have but we are going to take advantage and
do that.
Mayor Ferre: I think some of these walls upstairs would wel-
come some art and so would the Mayor's Office and I'm sure
the Commissioner's office and your own conference room and
office. and other governmental units and buildings in our
community. It's part of sponsoring art.
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Reverend Gibson: Mr, Mayor, while we're talking about art
something comes to mind. We have the art festival every year
and what disturbs me is every year we've got to wait until
this time or later thereafter to take care of the financial
obligations with that art festival. Now, if we have a budget
and we authorize, it seems to me, you know, this just doesn't
jive. DO you know what I'm talking about, Mr. Mayor?
Mr. Andrew*: Father, no. I was going to catch up with this
subject.
Mr. Plummer: Father, let me refresh your memory. This is
the first time that this Commission has ever donated financ-
ially towards the festival. We told these people that if you
wanted to be considered do it at budget time and it is budget
time and they are here.
Reverend Gibson: J.L., no, no. What I'm talking about is
International Folk Festival. They have obligations that have
not been met; not because we don't want to meet them but be-
cause somebody didn't turn over that money. Now, I think, Mr.
Mayor, since you're talking about art and that came to my mind;
I think we ought to instruct somebody - it is just embarrass-
ing to have people represent you and you not pay the bills.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, Father
Gibson, that matter is on the agenda, one of these agendas for
complete settling now, today with my recommendation that we just
do that.
18, JOSE MARTI BASEBALL LEAGUE - REQUEST FOR FREE USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL
mg. N��{ DjJ (��� E AND FR IDAYS SEPT THRU DECEMBER'
•
Mayor Ferre: The gentleman wants to spe'3k in Spanish so
we'll need a translator here so...
Thereupon Sr. Miguel Lavilla spoke to the Commission in
Spanish.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Howard, in answer to his questions which
I'm not going to interpret at this point but I'll just get to
the crux of it. He says he doesn't want the stadium. All he
wants is a baseball field. Don't we have a baseball field
that we can make available to him?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, Mr. Mayor. I think the memo, and
I call your attention...
Mayor Ferre: We're going to get into that in a moment.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'm sorry sir. I don't think we should
even talk about that until the other bill is paid.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews, do you want to talk to the point
of the bill?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. This gentleman contracted with the City
and I have the contracts here before me, in June of 1971,
October 1971, November and December for various days and there
is a total outstanding bill due the City of Miami of $4890.00.
I cannot recommend....
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Thereupon the Mayor entered into a conversation with Sr. Lav ilia
in Spanish.
Mayor Ferret He says there is misunderstandings and they
can't afford to pay $130.00 because nobody went.... Why
did you sign a contract if you can't pay it?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion at this time that we
defer the item until the outstanding debt of $4890.00 is paid.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion on the floor. Is there a
second to the motion? The motion is that the item be defer-
red until such time as the current debt is paid.
Mrs. Gordon: Since I didn't - you know I'm studying Spanish
but I'm not that good yet - why hasn't he paid it? Why doesn't
he have the money? Didn't he charge admissions?
Mayor Ferre: (INAUDIBLE)
Mrs. Gordon: Well didn't he know what he was getting into
when he got into it?
Mr. Plummer: He signed a contract.
Mrs. Gordon: All right, but sometimes you know the language
barrier, J.L.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but ignorance is no excuse under the law.
Mrs. Gordon: I know but I'm not a judge, I'm a commissioner.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we're not going to take the time on this
Commission on this item. So there is a motion for deferral..
Mr. Plummer: You see, Mr. Mayor, let me tell you something
right now.
Mayor Ferre: J.L., we've got a lot of things to do. Is there
a second on the motion? There is a second on deferral.
Mrs. Gordon: Until when?
Mayor Ferre: Until he either pays his bill or comes back with
a satisfactory agreement that the manager recommends. Will you
accept that as a..?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: No, alright. Until he pays his bill period,
that's the motion.
Mrs. Gordon: And I don't know why he didn't pay his bill.
Mayor Ferre: He didn't have the money. The question is why
he signed the contract and the answer to that is he wanted
the stadium.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you one thing else, Mr. Mayor, and I
want it for the record. Me and the manager have a serious dis-
agreement. Mr. Manager, here again J.L. was right. I've told
you before, it's happened before; I think this City should get
its money in advance. Now I know we have a serious disagreement
on that but we wouldn't be in this problem if you do what I
suggested.
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Mayor Ferre: Look, from a practical point of view, Al, do we
have a baseball field that this man can use someplace?
Mr. Howard: Yes, we do but this gentleman never came to the
department to ask for a field. He submitted for the stadium..
Mayor Ferre: Whether or not he owes money to the public, the
players that are involved are either citizens or residents of
the City of Miami and they have a right to use public fields,
Don't they? All right.
Mrs. Gordon: Does he intend to pay the money back at all?
Mayor Ferre: I told him to meet with Al Howard and see if he
can get himself a baseball field.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, no sir! I'm not going to let you give
away $5,000. That's the only lever we've got to collect.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, that man is never going to pay you
$4800 and let me tell you whether he does it in his name or
in somebody else's name, the point is that the players who
have nothing to do with this directly are members of this
community and whether we like him or not; and I don't like
what he's done. I think It is terrible. But they have a
right to play baseball in public fields so there is nothing
wrong with that. You talk with the man and if there is a
baseball field available.. There's nothing you can do to
stop them from playing baseball.
Mr. Plummer: Aren't there fees involved with leagues? Don't
leagues pay fees to the City? Well this is what he is pro-
posing every Tuesday and Thursday...
Mrs. Gordon: Sr. Parades, may
pretation? Ok. Ask him if he
little by little.
Mr. Reboso: The problem Rose,
entrance to the games.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, why did he
understand..
Mr. Reboso: He shouldn't have
from the beginning.in 1971.
I ask you please, for inter -
is going to try to pay it
is that he never charged the
go into a contract, I don't
asked for a baseball field
Mayor Ferre: You know Rose has a very valid point and I want
to make it to you specifically. There is a baseball league
that's playing at Miami Stadium and I think it is Marti...
What's the name of that league that's playing....
Mr. Howard: Federacion.
Mayor Ferre: Federacion. Are they paying anything?
Mr. Howard: Yes, they're paying the expenses to use the field.
Mr. Paredes: One thing that he pointed out is that he has
used the Miami Stadium previously and what happened was that
the resolution dien't get..
Mrs. Gordon: Louder Joe, I can't hear you.
Mr. Paredes: He has used the Miami Stadium previously but
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the City CoMMissioi has passed a resolution authorizing hie
to do se at no fee because he in turn did not charge any fee
to the people that went to see the baseball game.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's an entirely different story than I
got here. If that's the case then I'll rescind my motion.
Mt. Reboil": He appeared before us once... I think...
Mr. Mueller: If that's the case, then this memo is not true.
Mrs. Gordon: Let me ask another question. Did we lay out
Any money on this bill? Did we advance anything out of pocket
so -to -speak? Joe, Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews: 0h sure, there would have been some expenses
in conjunction with putting on custodians, lights if it were
at,night, clean up afterwards.
Mrs. Gordon: How much of this bill?
Mr. Andrews: I can't say, I'd have to find out. There is a
minimum of $150 plus then 10% of the gate receipts and appar-
ently what the gentleman is saying there were no gate receipts
so its a minimum of $150 to cover the cost of opening and clos-
ing the facility and cleaning up.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me re -word my motion and my motion
that this item be deferred until such time as the manager has
had the opportunity to straighten this financial picture out..
Mrs. Gordon: And make recommendations.
Mr. Plummer: Well, of course he'll make recommendations.
That's my motion.
The preceding
by Rev. Gibson was
AYES: Mr. Reboot),
Mayor Ferre. NOES:
motion, introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded
passed and adopted by the following vote -
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and
None.
19, ESTABLISH RESERVE-$5,500,000 TO SUPPLENT FUNDS FOR AWARD OF
CONSTRUCTION COBTRACT FOR POLICE IMPROVEMENTS
Mr. Andrews: We have the plans and specifications here.
This is a process the commission wished to review during the
bidding kprocess after you had .become better acquainted with
the plans and specs. I furnished those to you as soon as they
arrived. They were located in the commission offices. If you
have any general questions at this time, I will try to answer
them or the architect will try to answer them. They Police
Department is also represented here and they will endeavor to
answer them.
Mr. Plummer: Refresh my memory why we're using revenue shar-
ing funds. Is that a loan?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. It is on a completely borrowing basis
until such time as the bond market is in a position where we
can go to the market, market bonds and it was my recommendat-
ion to you that we use this method of financing construction
coupling with the bonds that we've already sold until such
time as we can sell the bonds....
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Mr. Plursn r: Do you think the bond Market is going to straighten
out that fast?
Mr. Andrews: Maybe not that fast but I hope within a year.
Mr. Plummer: Really. my question to you is: Do you feel safe
in funding this way knowing all of the allocation of dollars in
federal revenue sharing?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: All right, that's all I want to know.
Mayor Ferre: Any further questions? Mr. Manager, anything
else you want to say about this?
Mr. Andrews: No. I'm awaiting the Commission's pleasure and
will try to answer any of your questions that you might have.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would be redundant but just let me
interject one thought at this time that already before this
thing has ever come back in bids we are contemplating, by
memo of the manager that this building is going to cost an
additional $317,000 over what we spoke about before. Now I
know it is nothing that the manager did or SRI or Lester or
the Chief did but realistically it is more dollars that are
going to be involved. Now I'm willing to go along at this
time and let's see what happens with bids because that's the
important thing. But I think it just shows in a short period
of roughly 3 or 4 months - we've already increased the cost of
this building an additional $317,000 to 7 million 7 and I'm
just so petrified.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, but let's dwell on that a minute because
I want to try to relieve your apprehensions about that parti-
cular area if I can and that is that you must recognize that
the estimate that was made and given, and it is a good one,
was based upon a preliminary set of plans. Now in the process-
ing between the preliminary plans and the final construction
plans you have to appreciate and Mayor Ferre, you will parti-
cularly appreciate this, that changes and things that can
happen between.the preliminary set of plans and the final set
of constructiali4drawings of that volume that you see before you
there that they, have and the writing of the specifications, that
there are bound to be some minor adjustments. These adjust-
ments, and some of them were imposed upon us by law, represent
and correct me if I'm wrong, about 396 of the total cost of the
project which we consider reasonable. Now that doesn't change
what you're saying as far as more dollars are concerned but I
want to amplify the reasons for it.
Mr. Plummer: We. Paul. we can speak back and forth, we can
talk all day long. As you know I had healthy concerns about
the per square cost. We narrowed that down to a realistic
figure in thinking philosophy but here through no fault of
anyone we're looking, if my mathematics is about right, an
additional three dollars a square foot without us doing any-
thing. Now if we go back and accept the $49.00 as the premise
we're back up to 52 and I'm just saying I think we're building
a building more than what we can afford and z just, I'll shut
up. The only other question is, why Mr. Manager there is
another item that goes hand in hand, why these two items weren't
put on here together. The other item is about the "E" cor-
poration and the funds for the buying of the computers. It
seems like when something goes hand in hand they should be on
the agenda likewise. There is no reason for it?
69 SEA 121974
Mr. Andrews: No, no reason. In fact, we attempt to do that
whenever we can so we can
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, for all practical purposes the point
that we're making here is just the allocating of funds and
I'll be happy to move the motion.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-978
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA TO ESTAB-
LISH RESERVES IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,500,000 TO
SUPPLEMENT EXISTING FUNDS IN THE POLICE HEAD-
QUARTERS AND CRIME PREVENTION FACILITIES BOND
FUND, FOR AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR
POLICE IMPROVEMENTS; AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$2,000,000 TO BE TRANSFERRED AS NEEDED AND RE-
QUIRED FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND (UNALLOCATED
FUNDS) AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,500,000 TO
BE TRANSFERRED AS NEEDED AND REQUIRED FROM
FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seanded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that this has the man-
ager's approval and recommendation on it
Mr. Andrews: This is allocation based on prior resolutions
passed by the Commission to move ahead with the computers for
the Police Station. This sets up the allocation.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-979
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $893,740 FROM THE
POLICE AND CRIME PREVENTION FACILITIES BOND
FUND, TO PROVIDE THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO
FULFILL THE INSTRUCTIONS OF RESOLUTION
N0. 74-614 FOR AWARD OF BID TO E-SYSTEMS,
INC., FOR FURNISHING A COMPUTER SYSTEM TO
BE USED BY THE MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso. Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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z�, ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - DOWNTOWN GOVERNMENT CENTER -BUILDINGS
DEMOLITION
1973
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. PiuMmer
who Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-980
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY BEN HURWITZ, INC., AT A TOTAL
COST OF $6,600 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL
PAYMENT OF $660 FOR THE DOWNTOWN GOVERNMENT
CENTER - BUILDING DEMOLITION - 1973 PHASE II.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was pass-
ed an;i adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr.
Reboso, i'lrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Rev. Gibson.
21, ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - ROBERTO CLEMENTE PARK -RESURFACING
BASKETBALL COURTS
1974
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-981
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WC)RK PER-
FORMED BY MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY, AT A TOTAL
COST OF $4,161.28 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER OFFICIALS TO
MAKE A FINAL PAYMENT OF $416.13 FOR THE
ROBERTO CLEMENTE PARK - RESURFACING BASKET-
BALL COURTS - 1974 FOR ALL WORK PERFORMED
AND ALL MATERIALS FURNISHED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Rev. Gibson.
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22i ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - EDISON PARK TEEN CENTEL 9n
Mr. Andrews: We're tentatively setting un a r1pdieation :1atw
of October 3 at 10 A. M. unless the Commission would rather
have another date.
Mr. Plummer: Make it in the afternoon if you can. Two O'clock
would be much better if that's agreeable'.
Mayor Ferret Would you let our offices know,please.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 74-982
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION OF CARL J. HOENES, INC.
FOR THE EDISON PARK TEEN CENTER - 1973
AT A TOTAL COST OF $236,899.78; AUTHOR-
IZING AN INCREASE OF THE SCOPE OF THE
CONTRACT IN THE NET AMOUNT OF $980.78;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE PROPER OFFICIALS TO ALLOCATE THE
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $980.78 FROM THE
ACCOUNT ENTITLED "PUBLIC PARKS AND
RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND FUND;"
AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF
$24,572.68 FOR THE EDISON PARK TEEN
CENTER - 1973.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: 'Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Rev. Gibson
Mrs. Gordon: I have a question to ask you on this about a
name for this teen center. It would be nice if we prepared a
name for someone who has contributed efforts to it.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, before you, I don't even know who you're
talking about but you know we've gotten into so much trouble
on these naming things...
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I will name somebody then...
Mayor Ferre: Don't you think we ought to go to that committee?
What is the name of that committee?
Mr. Andrews: Cultural...
Mrs. Gordon: All right, I think that we most definitely should
go to the Memorial Committee on all of our recommendations and
the Memorial Committee has been by-passed for quite some while.
It would be a good idea to ask them to make recommendations for
a name for this building and then perhaps we can have a name
to apply to it when we dedicate it.
Mr. Andrews: They are advisory to the Commission and I will
72 SEP 121974
try to have that answer for you on the 27th so that it will
be in advance of the date and you can pass judgement on it.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you, that wi3.l be fine if you'll reach
the committee.
23, ACCEPT COMPLETED IIOEK - ASTERN DRAINAGE PROJECT E-30
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-983
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED
WORK PERFORMED BY MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY
AT A TOTAL COST OF $152,801; AND AUTHORIZ-
ING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PROPER OFFICIALS TO MAKE A FINAL PAYMENT
OF $15,280.10 POR THE WESTERN DRAINAGE
PROJECT E-30.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Reverend Gibson.
24, PARKS AND RECREATION BOND PROGRAM- DISTRICT #5
PARK FROPOSED FOR CENTRAL MIAMI AREA
ACCEPTING DEED ETC.
Mr. Plummier: Mr. Mayor, the manager brings to my attention
on item 24; Reverend tlohnson did have to leave and I think
out of fairness it should be deferred until he could be here.
Mr. Andrews: Oh no.
Mrs. Gordon: He's for it....
Mayor Ferre: We're very happy to have Dr. Warren in our midst
who is a longstanding leading... All right, we'll hear from
the Vice -Chairman.
Mr. Plummer: I thought that the group that was in opposition
or something
Mr. Alfred Feinberg, attorney: Maybe I can clear up some con-
fusion. My name is Alfred Feinberg, I'm an attorney and I've
been retained by the Task Force Committee for the N oP Area,
District 5 which is on your agenda as #24. I was retained by
the pact committee, which is really redundant since the "c" in
pact stands for committee, but I was retained by the Task Force
because of a fear that the people in this community had that a
park which was originally proposed in the original bonds for
parks people would not be built in their community. We met on
Tuesday with Mr. Andrews to discuss this park as well as all
the other major parks in District 5 and I must say th't we got
a tremendous welcome from Mr. Andrews and he made a number of
committments to us, of course predicated on approval by this
Commission which we are thoroughly and totally satisfied with
and I am merely here to request that a resolution of some sort;
perhaps today is the wrong day to ask for such a resolution
because it could have to be a motion of intent, I'm told would
be appropriate that we go ahead with these parks. I would ask
in addition to the committments which were many that were made
by Mr. Andrews yesterday concerning the location of these parks
and the facilities that would be contained in these parks that
certain other specific items be includee which are of great
concern to the people in the community Y'ecause of past histor-
ical experience with their parks in their community. They are
as follows: In addition to the committments, and when I talk
about the committments I am talking about building the parks
in a geographical area where we all agree they ought to be
built although there is some adjustment with regard to Dorsey
that still has to be made and we understand that. In addit-
ion to the committments made, we request and included in the
committment made by the commission today or in a later reso-
lution that a committment for the new parks and the rejeuven-
ated parks in District 5 that is going to be made with the
money from the bonds for park people, that these parks be furn-
ished with equipment and playground furniture which is commen-
surate with the amount and severity of use which can be ex-
pected and anticipated. There was great concern that as in
previous years parks had been build - I should say attempted -
in this area with inferior equipment not equal to the task
because of the great density of young children who play hard
and tough on this equipment so we are looking for class "A"
equipment in these parks so that they are successful not only
when they are opened up but in 10 years and maybe in 20 years
from now. We're further asking for a committment that is
part of your committment concerning these park facilities;
the City commit itself to adequatdt instructional supervisory
and maintenance staff personnel on a continuing basis and on
a priority basis relative to these same operations in the
parks which are found in the more affluent and less densely
populated neighborhoods of our community. The reason for this
proposal is that while District 5 currently has parks, for
example, there is Dixie Park, there's Dorsey Park or so-called
parks. When you compare the maintenance and upkeep of these
parks with parks such as Morningside Park you recognize immed-
iately that the City has been totally lax in maintaining the
facilities at these smaller parks which are in the poor neigh-
borhoods, the very densely populated neighborhoods which are
sometimes referred to as the central black district or the
swamp- the newspaper has bemn referring to it as the swamp
lately. And what we are asking for, if not equal treatment,
we are asking for priority treatment in these parks because
of the prior historical experience of neglect and a total
irrelevance of the:maintenance of these parks and the main-
tenance programs that the City has had in prior years. We
are further asking for a committment for a continuing organ-
ized activity program in these parks for all age groups that
are expected to be using these parks and so part of these re-
quests really go, not so much to the building of the parks
because we are in basic agreement with Mr. Andrews and we would
hope and assume that the Commission would agree with Mr.
Andrews as he proposed these parks to us on Tuesday. But we
are asking for a continuing committment that means a future
money committment to staff these parks, to maintain these
parks for organized instructional activity so that these parks
could look like Morningside Park looks like today ten years
from now.
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Ara. Gordon! I agree, I move it just like you outlined it,
how about that. I tell you why. Because in the first place,
1 don't think this should have been a deferred item to start
with and I don't think this letter we received should have
ever had to been done in this matter. We should not have
been set aside and the responsibilty shifted to someone else
as wa8 outlined in the letter that I received.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, I will recognize you for the pur-
pose of a motion after Mr. Andrews makes his presentation.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, the
problem and their concerns began with many things but center-
ed around one particular problem and thet is why this partic-
ular area has not been developed as a park within the city
when it has been designated for park development(referring to
a map). Now this comes about because Metropolitan Dade County
is going to be underway shortly with a housing project in its
entire development and they acquired in addition to all the
area you see in red which encompasses the green area and de-
notes a park, they were acquiring that and for many years it
was understood that they, at least understood by the City that
Metropolitan Dade County would develop this area as a park.
Now in our Parks for People Bond Program, in addition to all
the other parks we have provided an allocation of $220,000 to
acquire and develop an additional park somewhere in the cent-
ral area somewhere between 6th and 9th streets. It was our
hope and perhaps we're at fault for not communicating with the
people in that area and the task force as well; we were try-
ing to achieve two parks for them. One Metro would develop
and because this was a densely populated are we were going to
select the second site and we had been badgering Metro to
assume the responsibility of developing this park particular-
ly since under the Parks Bond Project, the Decade of Progress
Bonds that Metro had, they had not allocated any money for the
development of parks in this district or any other district
in the City of Miami. Recognizing that if we pursue that
another year could go by before we arrived at any definite
conclusion in that area, I committed to these people that as
we because more acquainted with what was happening in the
total area that we were not going to pursue this that way
anylonger. We're going to commit our $220,000 to go ahead
and develop this park now, this area now and then we will
continue our appeal with Metropolitan Dade County in an effort
to get that $220,000 and more back through the Decade of Pro-
gress Bond Issue because these people are making a 25% contri-
bution through whatever taxes they pay and to have that money
turned over to the City so we in the City of Miami can devel-
op additional parks within theCity. There is a second poten-
tial approach for additional funds for more parks and that is
through, and you'll became more acquainted with this as time
goes along through the housing and community development funds
which we received. So we've settled on that and they asked
to show good faith that we do something about having this
property deeded to the City of Miami. That very same day, I
want you to know that we communicated with Metropolitan Dade
County, arrangements have already been made to transfer title
of this.property. I have here a resolution which is in the
Commissions books which I want them to pass which will author-
ize me to accept that property and accept the deed so that we
can get under way with planning. Now there are several other
matters which I won't take time to explain in detail now that
we have to work with the Task Force in further evaluating
Dorsey Park and what we want to do about Dixie Park and the
additional land that Metro is acquiring and we will develop and
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Operate. But those are decisions that have to be made as
yet by working with the Task Force and City Staff and they're
aware of this. We must have spent a good hour on this if not
an hour and 15 minutes in going over all these 'matters but the
important thing is that we're going to go ahead immediately
with this park.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews,,in the district, otherwise I wouldn't
bring it up, but you received a letter from the woman's council
of realtors saying that they were willing to develop another
park in that vicinity at their own expense and that the only
thing the City would have to do is take over the maintenance of
it after it was developed and it belongs, if you recall, to a
Mr. Sawyer who is a brother of representative Wayne Cherry. Do
you recall that? Are you familiar with that letter?
Mr. Andrews: Partially, not in enough detail to talk about it.
Mrs. Gordon: Would you be good enough to look into that and
give me somekind of an answer on whether or not the City will
or will not participate? They're anxious to do this because
Mr. Sawyer is anxious for his father's memory to be kept alive
and he would like that park, the land which he owns named after
his father. So I personally think that is a great way to get
some open space in an area that needs it and it won't cost the
City anything, not for the land and not for the development
either. So bear that in mind. I think the location was on
2 or 3rd Avenue around, I'm not sure, 6th or 7th Street, in
that vicinity.
Mr. Andrews: Now there is one more matter that they've ex-
pressed a concern about. I have: to agree that the county
came in and developed a recreat:.onal area here. The standards
they've set...
Mayor Ferre: Are these county?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. They've set standards there that are not
equivalent to the standards of the parks in the rest of the
City of Miami. I feel it is the City's obligation to assist
them, these are residents of the City of Miami whether it is
the School Board or the county, we're going to have to assume
our burden of responsibility of working with them to make
sure that when the county makes a committment or the School
Board makes a committment in our community to do certain things
that those things are going to be followed up.
Mr. Feinberg: If I may have one last statement here. I would
like to point out to you, I know you're concerned about money,
under the original bond issue for this disputed park, the pro-
posed central Miami park which is no longer disputed, proposed
$220,000. some $120,000 of it or so was for land acquisition.
As it turns out, this property was purchased under the, by
Metropolitan government under its urban renewal program, its
NDP Program and it is now being dedicated to the City for
nothing so the entire $220,000, and now I see it's been up to
$225,000.... can be used, rather than using half of it to pur-
chase the land. the entire amount can be used to develop it
and perhaps we can even get an indoor recreation area on that
land which is not now currently proposed but people in the area
desperately want that.
Mrs. Gordon: What is the size of that tract?
Mr. Feinberg: Three acres.
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Mr. Andrews: I'm recommending that you pass a motion of in-
tent; What t've Cott pitted is acceptable to the Commission and
you established that as a policy and (2) that you adopt the
resolution that's in your books which 1 can read in reference.
Unknown " : I would like to add:just a few things to what
Mr. Feinberg said. We would like a definite date for the coin..
pletion of this park.
Mr. Andrews: I had also committed, and I'm not going to give
you that date now. I don't want to give anyone any false hopes
whether it is a long date or a short date you'll have an oppor-
tunity to criticize it but you should understand the dates we
arrive at and I did state that we would put all of this in
writing to them after the meeting and I will announce in that
letter I send to you the scheduling of the instruction as
well as we can.
Unidentified Speaker: I would like to go on record asking
whether the money that will be appropriated for this park,
whether that would be taken awayfrom some other park in the
area?
Mr. Andrews: No.
Unidentified Speaker: The total amount of money towards this
park will go for this park. It wouldn't take away from the
development of Dixie Park or Dorsey Park.
Mr. Andrews: That's right but there are some problems that
need to be resolved which Mr. Feinberg and I think the group,
I don't remember that you were present at the meeting, I didn't
think you were in which we're asking for their assistance as
far as all the money that's established for parks in that area
as how to beat spend those that will serve the community the
most. But I want to assure you all those monies will stay in
tact in that district for parks in that district.
Unidentified Speaker: One more point. I would like to reco-
mmend that the Task Force Committee work along with the City
and not only developing this park but maintaining It bEc:Iuse
frankly, I'm not p/ease0 with the maintenance of our parks in
that area and we would like to work along with theCity of Miami
in developing it and maintaining these parks.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, sir.
The following motion was introduced by Mrs. Gordon who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-984
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF
THE CITY MANAGER WITH RESPECT TO PROPOSED
CENTRAL MIAMI AREA PARK (RECREATION BOND
PROGRAM, DISTRICT NO. 5) AS SET FORTH IN
MEMORANDUM TO THE COMMISSION DATED SEPT-
EMBER 6, 1974.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
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The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74.-985
A RESOLUTION AU'HDRIZING AND DIRECTINT THE
CITY MANAGER TO,ACCEPT PROM METROPOLITAN
DADE COUNTY A DEED TO THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED
AS SITE 304 AND TO IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT ITS
DEVELOPMENT AS A PARK ACCORDING TO PLANS TO
BE APPROVED BY DISTRICT 5 TASK FORCE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City ,Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer. and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
25, PERSONAL APPEARANCE - JOHN BARRETT , ATTORNEY RECEIVER APPOINTED
BY COURT' CONCERNING FORECLOSURE OF MORTGAGE OFLow iY
Mayor Ferre: This is an out of pocket item at the request
of former City Attorney Jack Barrett who is always welcome in
our midst. He served this City with great distinction for
several years and we're happy to have you here, Judge.
Mr. Barrett: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Now Judge, we're doing this, we're taking it out
of pocket. It is not on the agenda and I understand Mr. Traurig
is here on the same item and I would be very grateful if you
would both limit your presentations to 10 minutes.
Mr. Barrett: Your honor, you have my assurance that I will
exactly that and I'm sure Mr. Traurig will. I find myself in
a rather difficult posture standing before this commission be-
cause I don't really know who it is I'm fighting for and who
it is I'm fighting against. As of approximately 3 days ago I
was appointed by Judge Friedman to act as court appointed re-
ceiver in the Sailboat Key matter. As you may or may not know
Sailboat Key has had an action for foreclosure brought against
it, three moving parties as plaintiffs are attempting to col-
lect some 81 million dollars owed to them under the terms of
the mortgage. Now in the past two days I, of course, have
simply been gathering information. I've simply been attempt-
ing to educate myself concerning the multiple facets of this
tragedy, perhaps that is the best way to describe it. I have
learned that there was a lawsuit commenced before Judge Grady
Crawford in Circuit Court and it involved a question of the
validity of a City of Miami permit. I understand that upon
ruling by Judge Crawford appeal was taken to the District Court
of Appeals by both parties, I further understand that t'.,e
matter is presently before the Florida Supreme Court on cert-
iorari. There is a second lawsuit involving a City of Miami
permit which is presently before Judge Friedman's Court and
it is my understanding that there will be an evidentiary hear-
ing on that matter November of this year. There is yet a third
lawsuit affecting this property of which I am receiver and for
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lack for a better term I'll call it an ecological suit which
is presently in a federal court before Judge Eden. There will
be a hearing on that next Monday. The precise status of that
lawsuit I amn not acquainted with. The fourth suit, of course,
represented by the foreclosure suit which resulted in my appoint-
ment as receiver. I stress the fact that I am► in the eyes of
the law, simply an extension of the court. 1 stress the fact
that I am a neutral party but I stress the fact also that my
moat imperative obligation to the court is the preservation of
the value of this property. Now I understand, and I have been
advised that at the Commission Meeting of the 19th this Commis-
sion intends to have a public hearing concerned with a master
zoning plan for Coconut Grove. I understand that that master
zoning plan will in fact encompass the property of which I am
now receiver. I further understand that the proposal might
result in a downgrading of zoning of that subject property from
R-5 down to either R-4 or R-3. Now if in fact that downgrad-
ing occurs I am further advised that at least nominally or
apparently.the value of this property will be reduced from
some $15,000,000 to approximately $3,000,000. I remind you
again the party is suing to foreclose now relying upon and
having every reason to rely upon the then zoning and the then
appraisal loaned 811 million dollars on this property which I
believe could be precipitously reduced in value to some three
million dollars. My further understanding is that the two
lawsuits to which I refer involving City of Miami permits will
turn on the question of the validity of those permits. If, in
fact, Goldberg and Sailboat Key received and has a valid permit
from the City of Miami you cannot downgrade the zoning. If he
does not have a valid permit issued by the City of Miami I
think there might be appropriate legal basis upon which you
could claim a right to downgrade that zoning. In very short
summary, what I am attempting to suggest is that if you pro-
ceed to take precipitous action against this property through
some type of a newly conceived zoning plan you are without
knowing the question of the validity or invalidity of the per-
mits previously issued by the City going to cause irrepairable
harm to this property. Give me just a moment more to develop
that. If, in fact, Goldberg prevails; if, in fact, he was en-
titled to his permit; if, in fact, you cannot downgrade the
zoning but if by virtue of this precipitous act of apparently
downgrading the zoning you are going to reduce the value of
that property substantially, you're going to make it impos-
sible to secure financing on that property, you are going to
make it impossible for these creditors who are now in the bag
to the tune of e1 million dollars to satisfy the obligation
owed to them. What is my suggestion? I do not wish to sug-
gest any interruption in what this City plans to do. If, in
fact, you think a new master zoning plan for the City of Coco-
nut Grove would be appropriate - by all means have your public
hearings and by all means make your own determinations concern-
ing it. But by virtue of the nature of the pending lawsuits
I respectfully request that you simply stay any action con-
cerning Sailboat Key at least until such time as we can have
the question of the validity of these permits appropriately
resolved by a court of proper jurisdiction. I would ask that
that be done. I would ask that this property be carved out
and simply ignored until such time as those questions are re-
solved and I ask because I think it is appropriate, fair and
decent with my experience with this Commission has been that
that is the sort of thing that you want to do. I'm confident
you want to do the decent thing. I'm confident if you under-
stand the equities involved and the innocent people who would
otherwise be affected if you did not avoid this precipitous
action, I'm confident that you will consider it, give serious
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thought to it and possibly grant it. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question. John, are you for the
record Stipulating that in fact that the people, the mortgage
holders that you represent through as a receiver of the court,
that the only collateral that they took for that granting of
that monies was the property itself.
Mr. Barrett: Commissioner, I will respond to that question
as follows: I want to disabuse you of one thought. 1 do not
represent the mortgage holders. I do not represent the creditors.
I am simply an extension of the court and I am simply concerned
with the preservation of the property to the extent that I am
concerned with the preservation of the value of the property.
I will find myself interested in many facets any many subjects
and many parts of this lawsuit. But I do not represent any
one of them or any collection of them.
Mr. Plummer: Agreed, now answer the question.
Mr. Barrett: I'm sorry I couldn't but I would suggest that
council might very well
Mr. Plummer: Oh Bob, are you council for the mortgage holders?
Mr. Robert Traurig: I, together with the firm of Burt Tannenbaum?
of the firm of Snyder, Young, Stern & Tannenbaum represent them
in this foreclosure. He represents Cabbot Cabbot & Forbes, I
represent Hospital Mortgage and Fidelity Mortgages also.
Mayor Ferre: You represent the court.
Mr. Barrett: Right.
Mayor Ferre: You're here as the receiver so you're represent-
ing the court.
Mr. Traurig: And we're representing the plaintiffs.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now I want to make a statement for
the records so we all understand this very clearly, Bob and
Jack. We are to have a public hearing on this item, that
affects this item. The date of that hearing is on the 19th
of September. We have to be very careful on this Commission
and I would like to warn my fellow commissioners that I think
it is alright for us to listen for a while but I would respect-
fully request that we not comment because then that would mean
that we're getting involved in the process without giving the
public the benefit at a public hearing to hear on these things!..
If you want to make a statement for the record that is fine.
I accepted yours and I will accept your and then we're going
to move on.
Mr. Traurig: On that issue, Mr. Mayor, we merely wanted to
advise you formally of the pendency of this foreclosure act-
ion and the role which Mr. Barrett plays and to advise you
that we have already in very good faith begun a dialog with
the people in the Bayshore Association, the Tigertail Assoc-
iation and your Planning Department so that we could under-
stand the problems with a view towards a resolution of the
problems whick everyone can accept. We are not here to recite
the facts to the case or the justifications for your taking
one form of action or another form of action. We are merely
here to say that very valuable property rights are involved
and many things are presently transpiring which the ultimate
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result of which will affec-: us. We're asking you, therefore,
to as I think Mr. Barrett indicated, carve out this property,
hear the Coconut Grove Study, take whatever action is appro-
priate in connection with the Coconut Grove Study but by reso-
lution perhaps today agree not to take any action on this port-
ion of the study until such time as a very full and complete
discussion has occured between the property owners who object
to the development of Sailboat and the Planning Department of
the City of Miami and those people who are represented by the
council here today til all of those people can have the mean-
ingful dialogue which we think can perhaps resolve these issues.
I realize that only this Commission and the courts can ultimately
resolve the issues but we would like to come to you with some
plans which we think might be considered as alternatives to
what is presently presented.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Traurig, let me just make this statement
and I think, I hope we can move on beyond. Our responsi-
bility as the policy board of this City is first and foremost
the people. Now your responsibilities to your clients as
Judge Barrett's responsibilities to the court. Now this is
my personal opinion, and Mr. Lloyd you stop me if I get into
trouble here on the law, but I 3on't think that we can today
even discuss this matter because we have a public hearing
specifically for that purpose and we cannot get involved in
a discussion of this item without giving the public the oppor-
tunity to express their opinion. So you see, I think that
this Commission must be a blind to the fact that this property
is in receivership. Who owns it or who doesn't or who will
own it or who will do, we must address ourself to our task
which is a task of rezoning a property or a plan, an overall
plan. Now, I will recognize you on the afternoon or the
evening of the l9th, an ,appropriate time for you to present
your situation and for you to present yours and at that time
I think would be the appropriate time for this Commission to
deliberate and make a decision if it so wishes to delete this
portion from the plan if that's what this Commission wants to
do or not to do so.
Mr. Barrett: Mr. Mayor, I have just two observations to make
and then I'll wrap it up and leave you. The first observation
is that it would seem fruitless for us to be heard or to appear
on the 19th if you are personally satisfied that the equities
involved with this receivership are factors that this Commis-
sion should not consider. I respectfully submit that in view
of the nature of the litigation presently pending against this
property, and in view of the iirepairable damage that can be
done precipitously and perhaps unintentionally to this property
it would be well within the purview of this Commission's author-
ity as a matter of policy to simply disregard a consideration
of that portion of the plan until such time as the legal quest-
ions were resolved. The second thing I'd like to say, and I
wouldn't like to debate it, the second thing I'd like to say
that I'd like to express my appreciation for your generosity
and kindness in hearing this today. I know that we were not
agended and I do appreciate the courtesy. Thank you.
Mr. Traurig: May I just add one other thing, Mr. Mayor? It
is obvious, your concern and the concern of your Commission
over the best interests of the people of the City of Miami
have merit and we are not asking you to do anything which you
think would have any adverse affect upon the plan or the legal
position of any party. We merely are suggesting to you that
perhaps at this point in time not withstanding the absence of
other people who are equally interested in the Coconut Grove
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Plan you Might agree that the portion relating to this property
could be deferred },ithout doing violence to the plan in general.
That's all, we ask you.
Mayor Ferrre: That's a matter of opinion and unless Mr. Lloyd
wants to add anything to what I've said, as far as t'm con-
cerned, unless eotaeone on this Commission wants to open it,
the matter is closed.
26. RENEW ADVERTISING AND PUBLICITY AGREEMENT BETWEEN METRO AND CITY
FOR JOINT CITY AND COUNTY ADVERTISING PROGRAM FOR
197175
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-986
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF
THE ADVERTISING AND PUBLICITY AGREEMENT
BETWEEN METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY AND
THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR A JOINT CITY AND
COUNTY PUBLICITY AND ADVERTISING PRO-
GRAM FOR THE 1974-1975 FISCAL YEAR,
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY
CLERK TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT,
EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 1974, AND DIRECTING
THE CITY CLERK TO FORWARD A COPY OF THIS
RESOLUTION AND THE RENEWAL AGREEMENT
TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF METROPOLITAN DADE C
COUNTY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.).
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon
and Mr. Reboso.
27. ACCEPT BID - 3 1250 G.P.M. CUSTOM BUILT TOP OF THE LINE MODEL
PUMPERS WITH 5 MAN CANOPY CUSTOM CABS FOR USE OF
THE FIRE 1)EpfRTMENT
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-987
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF OREN ROANOKE
CORPORATION FOR FURNISHING THREE (3) 1250
G.P.M. CUSTOM BUILT, TOP OF THE LINE MODEL
PUMPERS WITH 5-MAN CANOPY CUSTOM CADS FOR USE
BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT A TOTAL COST OF
$179,694.00: AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE PROPER OFFICIALS TO ALLOCATE
$179, 694.00 FROM THE FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING
ACCOUNT FOR THIS PURPOSE.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Perre.
ROES: None.
JOINT ADVERTISING AGREEMENT - ADVERTISING & MARKETING ASSOCIATES INC.
2$ FOR_EXTENSI ON OE TWQ YEARS WITH D DE COUNJV ETC,
Mayor Ferret We're not kidding, let's move on. 58. r. Does
somebody want to move it or deny it, or what do you want to
do?
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you something. I'll go for this
thing but I want this stuff to stop.
Mayor Ferre: What stuff?
Mr. Plummer: The white sheet, the blue sheet, the... What
are we, a newspaper? Now listen, I'm telling you, all kidding
aside. You know there is a thing in this Charter that speaks
to things being brought up out of turn, speaks about a thing
and I just want to put you on record. The next time this hap-
pens I'm going to invoke the rule.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. I'm with you, J.L., invoke it now. Let's
go in an orderly fashion.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, we haven't had a meeting for 8 weeks. Now
all I'm saying to you is; you know the next thing I'm going to
be looking at is a red sheet, a purple sheet. But I'm all
seriousness. I study these agendas and I spend a lot of time
studying these agendas and now i.hey throw something at the
last minute, I think it is wroncr. It has to stop so I'm just
putting them on notice, Paul. You know the next time it hap-
pens I'm going to invoke the rule. Now you want 58.r., Mr.
Mayor, I'll move it.
Mr. Andrews: What I think you should do, and I would be glad
to follow is that we follow strictly the ordinance that exists
for the preparation and delivery of agenda materials and if
other things are not ready I'm not going to put them on the
agenda anymore. This is a Commission policy. I'm trying to
be cooperative.
Mr. Plummer: Pauj,ok...
Mr. Andrews: with the commission to bring to you all the
items that come tome that people express that are emergencies
they have to be done and so forth.
Mr. Plummer: I know.
Mr. Andrews: And in doing that the Manager and his staff and
the City Attorney and everybody end up in precariois positions.
Mr. Plummer: That's right. Ok, I'll move 58.r.
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The following rdsolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 74-988
A RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO ENTER INTO A JOINT CITY
AND COUNTY PUBLICITY AND ADVERTISING AGREEMENT
WITH ADVERTISING & MARKETING ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR
AN EXTENSION OF TWO YEARS COMMENCING OCTOBER 1,
1974 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 1976; AND DIRECTING
THE CITY CLERK TO FORWARD A COPY OF THIS RESOLUT-
ION TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMIS-
SIONERS OF METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
2J, ACCEPT PLAT - BAY CLUB SUBDIVISION
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-989
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED
BAY CLUB SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND ACCEPTINT THE
DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT AND AUTHOR-
IZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND
CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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_ ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK
30 . ,� F SOU �� t GH�►AY II1PROV . M NCH -4350
mht fallowing resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-990
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE
COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT H-4350 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4350.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
31, DESIGNATE SIEGENDORF BICYCLE PATH AS RECREATION AREA
AND CONVEYING RIGHT OF WAY DEEP
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-991
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE SIEGENDORF BICYCLE
PATH A RECREATION AREA FOR USE BY THE GENERAL
PUBLIC; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE AND RECORD IN THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY
CLERK A RIGHT OF WAY DEED CONVEYING THE USE OF THE
SIEGENDORF BICYCLE PATH FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES
ONLY, SAID DEED BEING A REQUIREMENT OF THE FLORIDA
RECREATION DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE
PROGRAM UNDER WHICH FUNDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SAID
BICYCLE PATH SHALL BE PROVIDED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in theCity Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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32, WASTE COLLECTION LICFASEL TO ABBOTT'S RECYCLING INDUSTRIES INC.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who Waved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-992
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF
NAST'S COLLECTION LICENSE !O ABBOTT'S
RECYCLING INDVSTRIES, Mc., 20420 LEEWARD
LANE, MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR COMMERCIAL WASTE
COLLECTION BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
33, �lA�1SANDN.JA�K�D�V1���HMENT OF L00 THEW COST
AIR SERVICE BETWEEN
RRTEF DISCUSSION AND REFERRED GREATER jr1I)MI TRAFFI;. COMMISSION
Mr. Plummer: Paul, I thought this came with a recommend-
ation.
Mr. Andrews: Not with mine. This is a policy of the Commis-
sion.
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw it.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not against it, I'm just saying I hope you
realize what you're doing.
Mr. Andrews: This is something you ought to refer to the
Traffic Committee that we spend $15,000 a year on
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion we refer it to the Traffic Com-
mittee that we spend $15,000 a year on.
Mayor Ferre: ... And we pay those people. I remember on
the budget I used to fight that thing in '69...
Nr. Andrews: And they make allthe analysis and determine whether
thus is a good thing for the community or not and....
Mayor Ferret The thing is, look, you see, it sounds very
easy that we're all for more transportation to Jacksonville
from Miami and I'm all for it. I happen to be for it and
if it comes up before this Commission I'in going to vote for
it today but I think we have to recognize that I'm voting on
pure emotionalism without really knowing all the facts.
Mr. Plummer: Well really, as I read the back up to this thing
the facts are that there is no direct service between here and
Jacksonville.
Mayor Terre: That's not so.
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Mr. Plu *ber:
tj
The letter 1 read said there wasn't.
Mayor• Ferre: 1 take pla-tes there all Of the tithe. 1 take
National and Delta all t%e tithe when National is flying..
Mr. Pluter: Well wait a minute, don't take my word for it
let to get that memo. It's not in my book.
Mayor Ferre: It may have came from my office because they
requested that this matter come before this Commission but
I want to point out to you before you vote on it that this
has i*plications and this is not, we're not a Federal Aviat-
ion Bureau or CAB or whoever regulates these ....
Mr. Andrews: You're not in a position to have received all
of the information on which you can really make a judgement
as to whether this is good or puts one ahead of the other in
route and the affects...
Thereupon the following motion was introduced by Mr.
Plummer who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-993
A MOTION REFERRING TO THE GREATER MIAMI TRAFFIC
COMMISSION A PROPOSED RESOLUTION URGING THE IM-
MEDIATE ESTABLISHMENT OF LOW COST INTER -CITY
AIR SERVICE BETWEEN MIAMI AND ALL FLORIDA CITIES,
PARTICULARLY JACKSONVILLE, AND URGING THE FLORIDA
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE POSITION
TAKEN IN SAID RESOLUTION.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, I want to read that Plummer
isn't crazy. From what I've got in my agenda kit it says here
there is no way that an airline can enter operation within 90
days when to date there are no planes nor personnel nor sched-
ules. So I just want that for the record. I will vote to
refer.
Mayor Ferre: Now what that;means as I interpret it, is that
they don't have but I know Delta flies to Jacksonville and so
does National. I think you're right, that statement is very
ambiguous...
34, APPOINTING ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO CITY OF MIAMI COMMITTEE ON
FCOLOBY AND BEAUTIFICATION
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-994
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING TWO (2) ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS TO THE LIST OF MEMBERS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI COMMITTEE ON ECOLOGY AND
BEAUTIFICATION.
87 SEP 121974
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City cletk' a office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was
paaaed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
HOES t None.
35, SET TIME AND DATE FOR SEMI-ANNUAL PUBLIC HEARING ON APPLICATIONS
FOR IBANSFER OF, A;ERTI FjCATES OF PUBLIC IONMEN I ENCE AND NECEW I TY
The following resolution. was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:}
RESOLUTION NO. 74-995
A RESOLUTION FIXING THE DATE, TIME AND
PLACE FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR FRIDAY,
SEPTEMBER 27TH AT A TIME TO BE DETER-
MINEb BY TIC CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY
COMMISSION MEETING ROOM AT, DINNER KEY,
MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR THE TRANSFER OF CERT-
IFICATES OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NEC-
ESSITY AND MATTERS PERTAINING THERETO.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
36, APPOINTING _ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO GENERAL CULT1IR!L HISPANIC COMMI1111
Mayor Ferre: On item 37 we have a sheet
missioner Gordon has submitted. Let the
Reboso has Dr. Richard Tejera and I have
the file. Mrs. Gordon, would you submit
Clerk's Office.
of people that Comp
record reflect them.
three which are in
your list to the
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-996
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING ADDITIONAL MEMBERS
TO THE GENERAL CULTURAL HISPANIC COMMITTEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mt. Reboso, Rev.' Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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PROCLAIM POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE
37. niALTARIC HLRITAGE WLEK IN MIAMI 1914
Mrs. Gordon: Before you go on, Mayor Ferre, may I ask you
t.o set some guidelines of:What you wish this committee...
Mayor Ferre: Well, here'4 one right now. I was just going
to make a statement.... Rose, here's the background on that.
We have all the time all these things about The Man of La Mancha
and problems with this and we're going to help this theatre
group and that ballet group and we've got visitors who come
here and I think we ought to have some committee that is know-
ledgeable in the cultural affairs of our community, the Spanish
Community...
Mrs. Gordon: ...select a chairman and that sort of thing?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. I think we will ask them to convein on
this item 38 and then at that meeting they can select a chair-
man. We'll set the guidelines, I'll let you, my office will
let all the Commissioners know when we'll convein and I think
you ought to be there representing the administration, Mr.
Paredes. In fact, will you kind of coordinate it and get that
meeting called? You know what I'm talking about? Hispanic
Cultural Committee, General Cultural Hispanic Committee.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-997
A RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING THE POLICY OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION TO ACTIVELY
PARTICIPATE IN,THE SCHEDULED CELEBRATION
OF HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK IN MIAMI - 1974,
AND FURTHER URGING ALL RESIDENTS OF
MIAMI TO JOIN IN THE CELEBRATION OF THE
ANNIVERSARY OF THE DISCOVERY OF THE
AMERICAS DURING HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Paredes, would you coordinate this meeting
and have them take up 38 on the agenda as the first item
after they've organized themselves and let the Commission
know when it should be late afternoon or evening and we
ought to hold it right here and let everybody....
Mr. Plummer: And then contact the Dade League because we
have been asked by Ray Goode to coordinate all of the act-
ivities of that designated week. So please get in touch
with Mr. Marchner of the Dade League. They're just a co-
ordinator, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferro: Well maybe they ought to be involved in the
first meeting.
89 SEP 121974
38, L1.AMEfiTJ.EVENT - JUANA RODRIGUEZ AND _PEDRO ROAIGUEZ.
Mr. Plummer: According try your memo this lady tripped on a
broken traffic device. '
Mr. Andrews: Sign.
Mr. Plummer: As I understand it the City of Miami does not
have any responsibility on traffic signs.
Mr. Lloyd: This is correct. However, the City of Miami has
a responsibility to keep the streets and sidewalks reasonably
safe and that has been gone through in the courts years ago
when I was handling torts and it is our responsibility to see
to it that if a sign is broken for a period of time and not
fixed that the dangerous portion of the sign is removed.
Mr. Plummer: Well, is it then likewise that you should turn
around and behoove the county to pay that money?
Mr. Lloyd: No, because what we do is when we find out about
the sign we notify Metro. They promptly fix the sign but if
we haven't found out about it.
Mr. Andrews: What you're suggesting is
we could try and that is to communicate
they owe us for $300.00 for having paid
certainly something
to Metro and tell them
this.
Mr. Plummer: You're damned right. It won't hurt anything.
You're so used to these high figures that you can't come down
to this little stuff. I'll move it, Mr. Mayor, with the in-
tention that they try to,recover the monies from Metro whose
sole responsibility the signs are. I'll move it, and then the
other portion.
Mr. Lloyd: We won't need to change the resolution, we'll just
go ahead on your instructions.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-998
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
TO PAY TO JUANA RODRIGUEZ, A MINOR, AND PEDRO
RODRIGUEZ, HER FATHER AND NEXT FRIEND, WITHOUT
THE ADMISSION OF LIABI7AITY, THE SUM OF $300.00
IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL C'AIMS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, UPON THE
EXECUTION OF A RELEASE RELEASINC THE CITY OF
MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
90 SEP 11914
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39. CLAIM SETTLE( - MONA LUDO 5
The following resolution was iitroduced by Mr. Plummer
►ho moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-999
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO PAY TO MONA LUDWIG, WITHOUT THE
ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $46.80
IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL CLAIMS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, UPON
THE EXECUTION OF A RELEASE RELEASING THE CITY
OF MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the. City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
40, CLAIM SETTLEMENT - BERTHA LEVY AND MAURICE I. LEVY
SETTLEMENT DF SUIT FILED AGAINST T}IE CITY
Mr. Plummer: I have a question on 40. Obviously, there must
be some other liability involved in 40.
Mr. Lloyd: That is correct, there was a co-defendent in the
case and they paid the major, far more than we. I think they
paid $1500. That was an abutting property owner.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1000
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR
OF FINANCE TO PAY TO BERTHA LEVY AND
MAURICE I. LEVY, HER HUSBAND, WITHOUT
THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF
$600.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT
OF THEIR CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI
FOR ALLEGED PERSONAL INJURIES SUSTAINED
BY MRS. BERTHA LEVY, UPON THE EXECUTION
OF A RELEASE RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI
FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
MOBS: None.
PROVIDE FOR FEES TO BE CHARGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISIONS OF
4i, ANNUAL CERTIFICATE OF USE RENEWAL ORDINANCE
FIRST READING QRDRIANCE
Mr. Plummer: That's with the assumption that the City Manager
is saying that this will itself liquidate that program.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI BY DELETING SECTION 2-24.1(e) AND
SUBSTTTUTTNG THERRIonR A NEW SEf'l'ToN ?-941.1(e) !
PROVIDING THE FEES TO BE CHARGED IN ACCORD-
ANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE ANNUAL CERT-
IFICATE OF USE RENEWAL ORDINANCE; REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF
IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT.
was introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Plummer and
passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN SUBMISSION OF STATE GRANT
APPLICATION TO INITIATE PROGRAM FOR
42, COMMUNITY DAY CARE SERVICES
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1001
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ACTION TAKEN
BY THE CITY MANAGER IN THE SUBMISSION OF A
STATE GRANT APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS UNDER THE STATE'S
ASSISTANCE FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM
TO INITIATE A PROGRAM THAT WILL PROVIDE
COMMUNITY/DAY CARE SERVICES AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT
THE GRANT AND EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND AGREE-
MENTS'NECESSARY TD IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM
UPON RECEIPT OF THE GRANT.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Reverend Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, have you heard on this yet, are we
getting the money?
Mr. Paredes: Yes, we have contacted Tallahassee and the money
available for Dade County has been released and we do have a
very good chance of receiving.... Almost the exact amount that
we requested...
Mr. Andrews: Mrs. Gordon, it is still informal, you understand
until we get the actual contract and so forth.
92 SEP 1219,74
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Mr. Paredes: No final committrnent yet.
Mr. Andrews: No final cont ittment. Mt?. reservation is there...
Mrs. Gordon: How much of the three hundred and some odd
thousand dollars are we getting in the City of Miami?
Mr. Paredes: The $300,000 is already City of Miami Federal
Revenue Sharing Funds but we're talking about an additional
grant of $122 thousand.
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I'm talking about, the additional.
Mr. Paredes: It would be $122,500...
Mr. Andrews: Plus 11,000.
Mr. Paredes: 11.000 for the handicapped.
Mr. Andrews: It is two ?arts.
CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN SUBMISSION OF STATE GRANT
431 APPLICATION TO INITIATE PROGRAM FOR
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR THE HANDICAPPED
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1002
A RESOLUTION CONFIRNING THE ACTION TAKEN
BY THE CITY MANAGER IN THE SUBMISSION OF A
STATE GRANT APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND REHABILITATION SERVICES TO
INITIATE A PROGRAM THAT w ILF, PROVIDE
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR .I HE HANDICAPPED
THROUGH THE CITY' S DEPARTMEN1 OF PARKS &
RECREATION, AND FUR' `HER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO ACC:PT THE GRANT AND
EXECUTE CONTRACTS AirD AGREEMENTS NECES-
SARY TO IMPLEMENT TIE PROGRAM UPON
RECEIPT OF THE GRAN"'.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
93 S EP 121974
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' 44. PURCHASE BY NEGOTIATION IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION
PARCEL No. E-7095.. 4 AND PARCEL No. E-7095 , 5
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION E. 74-1003
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE, BY ANY APPRO-
PRIATE MEANS, THAT PART OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
VS. GISELE FASHIK, ET AL., CIVIL ACTION
NO. 74-21840, DEALING WITH PARCEL NO. 7095-4,
IF SAID TERMINATION CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED
BY A TOTAL PAYMENT TO THE LAND OWNER, HIS
ATTORNEY, AND APPRAISERS OF $8,090 AND
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE FINANCE
DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO ALLOCATE
THE NECESSARY SUMS FOR SAID PURPOSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mr. Lloyd: May I just give a brief explanation? These are
these two parcels in connection with the Martin Luther King
Boulevard Park Project.
Mayor Ferre: You're better, off to do what you're doing. We're
all in agreement. You recommend it, don't you?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1004
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE, BY ANY APPRO-
PRIATE MEANS, THAT PART OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
VS. GISELE FASHIK, ET AL., CIVIL ACTION NO.
74-21840, DEALING WITH PARCEL NO. 7095-5,
IF SAID TERMINATION CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY A
TOTAL PAYMENT TO THE LAND OWNER, HIS ATTORNEY,
AND APPRAISERS OF $28,850 AND AUTHORIZING
AND DIRECTING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI TO ALLOCATE THE NECESSARY
SUMS FOR SAID PURPOSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
ti
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES= Rev. Gibson,
Mfrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
94
SEP 1 191,E
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4S, WAIVE RENTAL FEE FOR USE OF MIAMI STADIUM
TRUSTEESOF CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL BENEFIT PERFORMANCE FOR
sAyg CHRt$T1qN HOSPITAL. FUN$
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 1005
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE PROPER OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI TO WAIVE RENTAL FEE FOR USE OF THE
MIAMI STADIUM BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES'OF
CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 1974
FOR STAGING A BENEFIT PERFORMANCE WITH ALL
PROCEEDS GOING' TO THE "SAVE CHRISTIAN HDSP-
ITAL FUND", SU3JECT TO PAYMENT OF EVENT PERSON-
NEL, LIGHTS, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS
BORNE BY THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Terre.
NOES: None.
ISSUE PURCHASE ORDER AND CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER
46, FOR REPAIRS TO THREE ELEVATORS AT THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
w
Mayor Ferre: What happened to those elevators?
Mr. Andrews: It was just the time of the year prior to the
football season where they needed extensive service and they're
completely inspected by the elevator company...
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1006
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIAMI ELEVATOR
COMPANY RECEIVED ON JUNE 20, 1974 FOUR FURNISHING
REPAIRS TO THREE (3) ELEVATORS IN THE ORANGE BOWL
STADIUM AT A TOTAL COST OF $3,918,00; AND RATIFY-
ING AND CONFIRMING THE ADTIONS OF THE ACTING CITY
MANAGER IN AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT
TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER THEREFOR, DUE TO THE
EMERGENCY NATURE OF SAME.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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h. RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN ISSUANCE 0
7. PURCHASE ORDERS FOR DAY CARE, PLAYGROUND EQUIP T
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 1007
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE
CITY MANAGER IN ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF HUBERT
H. HANSEN & ASSOCIATES AND LONG AMALGAMATED
INDUSTRIES, INC. FOR FURNISHING DAY CARE
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR USE BY THE DEPART-
MENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AT A TOTAL COST
OF $24,184.00; FUNDS FOR THIS PURCHASE TO BE
ALLOCATED FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
48. PAY DEPARTMLNT OF LABOR $25,327, 0 AS FULL REPAYMENT OF ALLEGED
DISCREPANCIES IN EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS UNDER EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT
gT
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1008
A RESOLUTION AUTIDRIZING AND DIRECTING THE
FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO
PAY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR THE SUM OF
$25,327.40 AS FULL REPAYMENT FOR ALLEGED
DISCREPANCIES IN THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS
GRANTED TO THE CITY OF MIAMI UNDER THE
EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACT; ALLOCATING
FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE FROM THE JUDGEMENT
AND LOSSES ACCOUNT OF THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and MayorFerre.
NOES: None.
96
S P 121974
CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN MODIFYING AGREEMENT FOR
49, ESTABLISHMENT OF AFTER SCHOOL DEMONSTRATION CENTERS
CARE
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboao
who moved its adoption:
)t SOLUTIONO. 74-1009
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ACTIONS OF THE
CITY MANAGER IN MODIFYING THE AGREEMENT FOR
ESTABLISHMENT OF AFTER SCHOOL CARE DEMON-
STRATION CENTERS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY
EXTENDING THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AGREE-
MENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev., Gibson and MayorFerre.
NOES: None.
50, AWARD BID - SILVER BLUFF PARK DEVELOPMENT - FENCING
Mr. Plummer:
postage for a
laboratories,
I'm sorry, I don't understand why you have to have
fence. I'm reading here; advertising, testing
postage and etc., for a fence project.
Mr. Andrews: The wording could have been better changed
there. This is standard wording that we use in everyone of
these contracts that cover the additional costs of the public
works department which are charged into bond issues for the
services they render and we have a regular contract, you'd
have testing laboratories, and so forth.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask the pertinent question. I notice
here that you have that it was the lowest acceptable bid, not
the usual wording that this was the lowest bid, Were all people
given the same specs?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, except Royce Parking Systems did not follow
the specifications and they came in with a bid of 5.25 per foot
at 2,625 and the one who met all of the qualifications was Fence
Masters.
Mr. Plummer: If he didn't heed the specifica ions why is he
even being considered as part of the bide, Royce ....
Mr. Andrews: He's not.
Mr. Plummer: Then he has been disqualified, is that correct?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. But you see that's why we used the word
"The lowest acceptable bid".
Mr. Plummer: Paul, if a man does not adhere
disqualifies himself. Is that correct?
Mr. Andrews: You're going to have to direct
the attorney.
to the specs he
the question to
97 SEP 121974
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Attorney, if a Man is given a set of specs
and he doesn't adhere to the epees doesn't that autoT tieally
disqualify hits?
14r. Andrews: It disqualifies him but that doesn't mean that
be hasn't Submitted a bid. He submitted a bid and it is not
en acceptable bid so we take the lowest acceptable bid.
Mr. Plumper: Paul, you know we've got a point in our Charter
that says this Cotmttission is binding to taking the lowest bid.
Mow as far as I'm concerned, if that man did not follow the
specifications his bid is not qualified - he has disqualified
himself.
Mr. Andrews: Do you want us to not report that bid to the
City Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Sure. And then I want you to put the terminology
on here that this was the lowest bid.
Mr. Andrews: This has been a longstanding procedurd and Mr.
Lloyd may not be aware of this, of many City Attorneys and
Assistant City Attorneys being involved in this and this is
a practice that has been established over the years and before
you do that you'd better get an opinion from the City Attorney.
Mr. Plummer: Well let me go one step further. You've got
another item on this agenda where a man bid who was not even
licensed to bid. Are you telling we that you're goingto accept
his bid when he isn't even licensed to do business?
Mr. Andrews: No, but you have 1:o publically recognize that
you had a bid from someone who was not qualified to bid.
Mr. Plummer: I don't understand that, I'm sorry. If that
isn't bad sacrage, I never saw it. Look, first a man has to
be qualified. Now if he isn't even qualified, if you want my
honest opinion, he should never have been given a set of specs,
if part of the specs say you've got to be qualified.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, but we don't know that until he returns
the bid to us and fills out all of the documents to demon-
strate that he's qualified.
Mr. Plummer: I would sure feel a lot more comfortable with
the facts which are true that this was the lowest bid...
Mr. Andrews: You'll have to get that from the+City Attorney.
Mr. Lloyd: Why don't we study the matter and give you an
opinion on that. However, I call your attention to the fact
that here again the, actually you're reading from the double
asterisk portion of it and all that says is that that's a
paraphrasing of what the resolution may be. You'll find that
the resolution doesn't actually say that. And if you will see
the resolution in the whereas clause says that WHEREAS the
City Manager reports that the $3,935 bid of Pence Masters is
the lowest responsive bid
Mr. Plummer: That don't buy it. I would feel a lot more
comfortable voting on the lowest bid. Now you go ahead and
research it. ok? You're going to get back here later to
a man who made a bid who wasn't even licensed. As far as
I'm concerned, that automatically disqualifies him.
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Mr. Andrews: On the other hand, there have been times when
the Coaiasion have set a ground rule where they have not re-
quired licensing until after the bide have been opened whether
it's specialised trades where you have to get people in from
all over the country. One of those came about in the construct-
ion of the Coconut Grove Incinerator and that was the licens-
ing of a party that was outside of the state and they came in
and got a license after it and that was a condition of the bid.
Mr. Lloyd: I think we can clear this up which is a a term
which would be acceptable to me right now. I think if we had
a different whereas clause saying WHEREAS the City Manager re-
ports that this is the lowest of all the bids that have not
been disqualified.
Mr. Plummer: Study the matter, I'm raising the point.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1010
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID OF FENCE MASTERS,
INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,935 FOR THE SILVER
BLUFF PARK DEVELOPMENT (FENCING); ALLOCATING
THE AMOUNT OF $3,935 FROM THE ACCOUNT EN-
TITLED PARKS & RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND
FUND TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $394 TO COVER
THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM
SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $79 TO COVER THE
COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING
LABORATORIES AND POSTAGE, AND AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT THE PURCHASING DEPART-
MENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER THEREFOR.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: NONE.
51, AWARD BID - - -- - - - - LUMMUS PARK SHUFFLEBOARD COURT E9 RFACING
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1011
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID RECEIVED
AUGUST 15, 1974 OF BISCAYNE CONSTRUCTION,
INC. IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $7,971
FOR THE LUMMUS PARK - SHUFFLEBOARD COURT
RESURFACING - 1974; AND AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH
SAID FIRM.
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(Sere follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
peened and adopted by the following vote -AYES: M. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
1020 None.
52. AWARD BID - ONE 76" REEL MOWER
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1012
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID OF DE BRA
TURF 6 INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT CO. FOR FURNISH-
ING ONE (1) 76" REEL MOWER FOR USE BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AT A
COST OF $2,430.00; AUTHORIZING THE CI'.$Y .
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DE?ART-
MENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR SAME:
ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE FROM THE
FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
53, AWARD BID - LUBRICATION EQUIPMEtNI
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1013
A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE BID OF GENERAL
TRADING CO. FOR FURNISHING LUBRICATION
EQUIPMENT FOR USE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION AT A COST OF $2,352.94;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE
ORDERS AS REQUIRED; AND ALLOCATING FUNDS
FOR THIS PURPOSE FROM THE FEDERAL REVENUE
SHARING PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Reboso the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. WOES: None.
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54, GRANT PERMISSION To JUNIOR NAVAL CADETS OFA RIALODL96AND
NLODGE
FUND RAISING CARNIVAL AT •SHELL CITY pARKING LoT
UNID*N4'IFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, we would
like to, we are putting on a fund raising drive for the Junior
Naval Cadets of America and also for the Free and Accepted
Lodge #96 and the New Life Lodge #504. We would like to put
the carnival at the old Shell City Parking lot which is located
in the City and also We are asking for all of the fees to be
waived for the use of this property.
Mr. Andrews: There are no fees, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners
that affect these gentlemen directly. When they contract,
however, with the carnival firm that carnival firm will have
to come in and pay a fee but there are no other fees that you
have to pay...
Mr. Plummer: What location is this?
Mr. Andrews: This is the Shell City parking lot.
Mr. Plummer: How do we approve that, I thought the county
owned that?
Mayor Ferre: Zoning, they want to put a carnival there.
The following motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1014
A MOTION GRANTING PERMISSION TO THE JUNIOR
NAVAL CADETS OF AMERICA, THE FREE AND ACCEPTED
LODGE #96, AND THE NEW LIFE LODGE #504 TO
HOLD A FUNE-RAISING CARNIVAL FROM DECEMBER 5TH
THROUGH DECEMBER 8TH, 1974 AT THE SHELL CITY
PARKING LOT, N.W. 58 TH STREET AND 6TH COURT.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr.
Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
55, MIAMI SERVICE PROGRAM FOR TIE ELDERLY
Mr. Andrews: It is my recommendation that you authorize me
to enter into the agreement with a program operator rather
than the City of Miami developing the staff directly to oper-
ate the program. We will monitor, we will oversee the pro-
gram but we can hire an agency that would carry out this act-
ivity in the City of Miami Community Building for the frail
elderly.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT FOR COORDINATOR FOR THE
Mrs. Gordon: You have flexibility though, you can do it that
way or you can go to a qualified individual if you so desire?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. The time, Mrs. Gordon and members of the
Commission, is running out on us and we're having trouble
getting a second person. We had one person we took another
position in the mean time.. That would mean a postponement
of the program and rather than do that, if we can't find the
person to begin operating it and. the danger there to is that
if we just get one person it puts our Parks and Recreation
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people itt an adMittistrative area that frankly they're not
really thoroughly acquainted with.
Mre, Gordon: What's Ok, we leave it to your discretion to
get the beat possible procedure.
Mt. Pier: Mr. Manager, you're talking about quite poss-
ibly hiring a qualified individual, is that correct?
Mr. Andrews: A qualified agency to administer the entire pro-
gram and they in turn would employee....
Mr. Plummer: But you see, I don't read it that way. Your
wording here in your memo "The Elderly Day Care Program to
either an experienced individual or " Now what I'm saying
to you is this: I'm just picking this up quickly because I
readily admit I haven't read it; an experienced individual is
going to be a competent person.
Mr. Andrews: Yes.,
Mr. Plumper: But not $75,000 competent... Now the way I read
this memo, you say eithet or; either a competent individual or
an agency... Then you talk about down here a budget of $75,000.
Mr. Andrews: That budget has been prepared and submitted for
the entire program and that is only one element of it.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, I wanted it clarified.
Mr. Andrews: To hire staff and the operation and everything
would be $75,000.
Mr. Plummer: And this is out of last year's Federal Revenue
Sharing.
Mr. Andrews: Yes. Carried over and continued.
INAUDIBLE
The following motion was introduced by Mrs. Gordon who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 74-1015
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO SECURE THE SERVICES OF AN EXPER-
IENCED INDIVIDUAL OR APPROPRIATE AGENCY TO
CONDUCT THE PROGRAM FOR THE FRAIL ELDERLY
AND REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION ON THE PROGRESS OF THE FRAIL
ELDERLY DAY CARE PROGRAM.
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson
and adopted by the following vote -AYES:
son. Mts. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mavor
56,
the motion was passed
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gib-
Ferre. NOES: None.
NOMINATION OF THREE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON
INTERAMERKAN CENTER A ITRORLTY BOARD (INTERAMA)
Mayor Ferre: The Interama Authority bill that passed the
legislature requires that the City of Miami Commission in its
two appointments along with the other appointments submit the
name of three qualified individuals and then the governor
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chooses from those three one selection. Now the City of Miami
has two representatives on the Interama Board, David Kennedy
Oho's appointment comes due in 1976 and myself. My appointment
1 think comes due in October so we are meeting the requirements
but what we have to do now is select three names of people to
serve. Now as you all know Interama is in very deep trouble
and I've stuck with this thing for 5 years. Well, it has al. -
ways been in deep trouble. It is just in deeper trouble now.
I nay as well see it through to the end if you don't mind.
Rev. Gibson: I nominate the Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: That's one nomination, you need to nominate
two other people and the governor will select.
Mrs. Gordon: Matilde Perez Porrata
Mayor Ferre: All right, who else do you want to nominate?
Mr. Plummer: I nominate Manolo Reboso.
Rev. Gibson: Now let me ask a question. The Mayor and Reboso
... i don't think both ought to be.... Well, I'm not going to
take that chance. Let the Mayor go down there.
Mr. Reboso: Rafael Villaverde for the Interama Board.
Mayor Ferre: Now I want to tell you, don't be surprised if
he's selected. All right, is everybody satisfied with these
nominations?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, i believe what we did before and
would be proper at this time that a letter go signed by all
the members of this Commission that we recommend you and I
think that is in order.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I don't think that is necessary. I thank
you for it but I think the governor understands.
Mr. Plummer: He wants you to continue to bear the cross.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you, I think Reboso is right that
Plummer due to his professional ability might be more appro-
priate than myself. But it isn't over yet, Plummer. It is
about 99.9K over but not quite and as a matter cf fact, all
kidding aside and seriously, let me tell you even though Inter-
ama has not been able to fund the $60,000,000 and it doesn't
look like it is going to nor are we going to get any private;
there are certain things that have to be protected. First of
all, the City of Miami's rights there where we are owed 8h
million dollars and that is secured by a piece of property
which is worth and that is important, #1. #2, it looks like
the direction this might take to the governor's approval is
that it might end up being a part of the state university
system and that FIU might take over the project and through
that vehicle, hopefully not loose the $22,000,000 of federal
funding and other public funding involved for some of these
buildings that would tie into the university. So as I've al-
ways said it is not a question of whether or not Interama will
be a reality, the question is when will it be a reality and
what will it be. You see, it may just be two buildings. We
don't know.
Mr. Plummer: Are we really in fact, I read in the paper that
nu is quite conceivably going to acquire the property. It
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doesn't stipulate in the article that they will not be acquires
ing the City's property. `«
Mayor Ferret No, that has nothing to do with the City's
property nor can they abrogate omxr rights. We've deeds, there
is no way they can abrogate our rights and that's why we have
two representatives on that board.
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-10I.6
A RESOLUTION NOMINATING THREE INDIVIDUALS
TO SERVE ON THE INTER'AMERICAN qEI1TER AU-
THORITY BOARD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plunner the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr, Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon , Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor,!there was one condition of all those
deeds that flowed from the original deed when it was the trans-
fers were made. That waf: a condition that no stadium larger
than 25,000 seats would be built at that site and now with this
confusion of the deeds and the transfers and that we still have
to see the first deed with that covenant in it that flows.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I would recommend and this is the
first time that I've ever heard of that, that you write a
letter immediately, a certified letter to the authority with
a copy to each member so stating and asking that they by re-
turn mail meet with our attorney and verify that because tht
was a very... Let me tell you, and let' put it right out what
it was. There was a lot of discussion by Mr. Joe Robbie and
others in this community to try Metropolitan Dade County to
put up a stadium, a football stadium on that property and that
obviously would not be to the best interest of the City of
Miami. It is just that simple and therefore, the Commission in
its wisdom put that as a stipulation on their release and that
was agreed to formally. Now I'm amazed that that has not been
incorporated in the deed restriction and you'd better make sure
that it is. Once it gets into FIU's hands it might, that may
be one of the things they may want to do.
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL pP RATION OF $8,025.50
57 RNA NAL K FES1 WAL ACCOUNT
Mr.,
Plummer: Is this the one you spoke about before?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, this clears up all
and what I'm sure the City Commission
committee worked so hard to make it a
of our, what I consider
considers after the
success....
Mayor Ferree Is that going to cost us....
Mr. Andrews: $5216..,.
Mrs. Gordon: Is that $5000 more than the budgeted
that what you're talking about?
amount, is
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Mr. Andrews:, Well, yes, from this standpoint that we origin-
ally budgeted 12,500: we then also took the earnings which
SiMounted to about $8,000 that the committee earned through the
effort and added to it and the total expenditure for every-
thing required an additional $5,000.
Mayor Ferre: So what is the total then?
Mr. Andrews: $5216...(MRS. Gordon).... $25,7_,_
Mayor Ferre: In other words that cost the City of Miami
$25,000.
Mrs. Gordon: No, that's not what he said.
Mr. Andrews: It cost us $8025 less than that amount.
Mayor Ferre: Out of our pocket, what
Mrs. Gordon: In other words $5,000 more than we originally
budgeted.
Mr. Andrews: No. Let me start again. We budgeted $12,500,
Mr. Mayor and now we have to add $5,216 to that so it is
$17.800, $17,700.
Mayor Ferre: I'm talking about what the City of Miami is paying
for.
Mr. Andrews: $17,700.
Mayor Ferre: That's our committment to that, I understand.
Mr. Southern: Mr. Mayor, may I interrupt a minute? You all
are talking about figuree that don't appear in the ordinance.
Is it the intention to amend this and change these figures.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, as he reads it let him amend them.
Mr. Andrews: No, you don't need to do that. The memorandum
merely brought to the Commission's attention all of the actions
that had to be taken to clear this. With the adoption of this
ordinance this will be the last matter that needs to be handled
in order to set everything in order
Mayor Ferre: How much did it cost us the previous year?
Mr. Andrews: $10,000 plus the earnings from my memory and
they wanted $5000 this year and we said to them well we'll
add $2500 to it and then the earnings will make up the dif-
ference.. Well it didn't because tint was in the early stages
of the development of a folk festival and in fairness to Mr.
Freeman and his whole committee, they really extended them-
selves and got more dynamic as they went along and it devel-
oped into...
Mayor Ferre: That costs more money - to get more dynamic.
Rev. Gibson; Mr. Mayor, the one thing I think helps in a real
way with people to bring this community closer together with a
realization that all of us are going to have to be here and
understand each other and live together.
Mrs. Gordon: Right on, Father.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, now it has been moved and seconded
and under discus .on I have a Question. I still don't under-
stand if what we're adding, Mr. Manager, is $5,000 to the
original 12.5 why would it be $8,025....
Mr. Andrews: The eight thousand is the earnings that the
committee earned. Now there is no place that the City has to
accept that money so the ordinance accepts that money and then
with $5000 more coming from the publicity budget plus the orig-
inal $12,500L it all goes together.
Mayor Ferre: I understand now.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 8190, THE APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR
THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1974-75,
ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 26, 1973, BY APPROPRIATING
$8,025.50 FROM THE AUDITORIUM AND DINNER KEY
FACILITIES, BAYFRONT AUDITORIUM UNANTICIPATED
REVENUES, AND ADDING THAT TO THE SPECIAL
MILLAGE FUND, PUBLICITY AND TOURISM, FOR PAY-
MENT OF OBLIGATIONS INCURRED FROM THE
INTERNATIONAL FOLK FESTIVAL; DECLARING THIS
ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AND DIS-
PENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE
SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A. VOTE OF NOT
LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
was introduced by Mrs. Gordon and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Mrs. Gordon, seconded
by Rev. Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and
Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8299
Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that all members of the
Commission and the public have a copy of the ordinance before
them.
58, 3-MONTH EXTENSION Of EMPLOYMENT - N L LESLIE DUJ
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1017
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A THREE MONTH EXTENS-
ION OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH H. LESLIE
QUIGG AS YACHT DOCKS COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY
OF MIAMI FROM OCTOBER 1, 1974 THROUGH DECEM-
BER 31, 1974 UNDER THE SAME TERMS AND CONDIT-
IONS.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on-
file in the City clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Re,. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the follw'ng vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
OPPOSING ENACTMENT OF METRO PROPOSED ORDINANCE-
S,, "COMMMUINI ANTEITINN ETELEVISION SYSTEMS" - COUNTY PRE-EMPTION OF RIGHTS
C.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, that was a resolution that I had re-
quested it be prepared for the action of this Commission through
the Dade League, the CATV ordinance which is the Cable TV.
The county is endeavoring to pre-empt all of the rights of the
Cities in the matter of franchise. Now that in itself we're
not happy with. We have suggested to Metropolitan Dade County
that they assume the proper leadership in setting minimum
standards as it relates to cable tv but not the franchise
rights. Now it was felt by myself and Mr. Lloyd who attended
the last meeting; or I'll speak for myself and not Mr. Lloyd,
that not only does. this pre-empt the City's right to negot
iate franchises for the cable television but it in fact infringes
upon our very rights to issue franchises on any kind.
Mayor Ferre: That is a very good thing and I'm glad you
brought this to our attention, Mr. Plummer and I have to con-
cur with you and I think that....
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have to be very truthful with you
and tell you that this was the Dade League at which I serve as
your representative at present.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1018
A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE ENACTMENT OF METRO-
POLITAN DADE COUNTY'S PROPOSED ORDINANCE,
CHAPTER 8A, ARTICLE IV OR THE CODE OF METRO-
POLITAN DADE COUNTY, ENTITLED "COMMUNITY
ANTENNA TELEVISION SYSTEMS"; PROTESTING DADE
COUNTY'S PRE-EMPTION OF RIGHTS OF MUNICIPALITIES
IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF COUNTY CONTROL OF
COMMUNITY ANTENNA TELEVISION SERVICE IN BOTH
THE INCORPORATED AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF
DADE COUNTY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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60, GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
LOTLailicAula 91S MIAMI BLIGHTS S529)
Mr. Andrews: May I just comment on H.1 thru 7 which has my
recoa endation. Under the old ordinance the manager on a
routine basis was permitted to extend on a 6 month basis the
variances because there were financial hardships most of the
time in getting the projects underway or other mitigating cir-
cumstances. The new ordinance'; that you've adopted provide
that the Commmission shall revi,;w each one of these and then
authorize the manager to go ahead and make these extentions
and I'm suggesting to you that you might want to entertain a
modification of that ordinance so that you don't have to deal
with this. If there are any unusual ones I've always brought
them or the former City Manager....
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's what H.1. is.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, it is.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me tell you what happened and I
think you will understand it. Mrs. Gordon was the one who
picked up the fact that the Ryder building, Yacht Harbor, well
Fair Isle also, but Yacht Harbor was the one that brought it
to a head, that come to find out their kind of variance 'had
run out and that the manager as he always did automatically
renewed for an additional 6 months the application and we felt
that if we had known about it, we the Commission, there was
no way we would have ever have renewed that application. So
Mr. Manager, I would have to disagree with you. I think that
it puts the final authority on this Commission and we then
can't say we didn't know you'd already granted it. So I think
it is a good thing. I'll move H.1. Keeping another point in
mind, Father Gibson, we no longer hear variances at this level.
They can be finalized at the Zoning Board level and this still
give us that vehicle of a final approval if it is to be extend-
ed.
Mr. Dave Simpson: In fact, 5 out of the 7 items that are com-
ing before ...
Mr. Plummer: Never came before us.
Mr. Simpson: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: This is just on the extension but it still gives
us that extra arm that we never had before.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1019
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XI,
SECTIONS 2 AND 3 (1) AND (2), TO PERMIT CONVER-
SION OF EXISTING TWO-STORY RESIDENCE TO OFFICES
ON LOT 14, BLOCK 91s, MIAMI HEIGHTS (5-29) at
259 SW 13TH STREET, WITH 50' LOT WIDTH (60'
REQUIRED), AND WITH SIDE SETBACK OF 4'4" (9'
REQUIRED); ZONED R-C (RESIDENCE OFFICE),
WHICH VARIANCE WAS GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. ZB. 31-74.
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(Here follow body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the folOwing vote. -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plun ner and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
61, GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
LOT 11. BLOCK 15S - MIAMMI B-41
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1020
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE VIII,
SECTIONS 2 (3) AND 3, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF
A DUPLEX BUILDING ON S. 10' LOT 11, BLOCK 15S,
MIAMI (B-41) AT APPROXIMATELY 795 S.W. 2ND STREET,
WITH FRONT SETBACK OF 16.3' (20' REQUIRED), WITH
LOT WIDTH OF 39.92' (40' REQUIRED), AND WITH LOT
AREA OF 3692 SQ. FT. (4000 SQ. FT. REQUIRED),
ZONED R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE), WHICH VAR-
IANCE WAS GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO.
ZB 27-74.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
62, GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
TRACL. 4T.P. W898 - '_DOUGLAS GARDENS" WAIVE PARKING SPACES
Mr. Simpson: On H. 3. and 4. this Commission did aet involved
in that particular project as it involved an ordinance for
street closure and a change of zoning.
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1021
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE VIII,
SECTION 6 AND ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4 (9), TO
PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITION TO JEWISH FUME
FOR THE AGED ON ALL OF TRACT A T.P. #898 "DOUG-
LAS GARDENS", AT 151 N.E. 52ND STREET; WITH 30.9%
LOT COVERAGE (28% PERMITTED), WAIVING 49 of 112
REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES, ZONED R-4
(MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE) AND R-2 (TWO-FAMILY),
PROP OSED TO HE REZONED R-4, WHICH VARIANCE
WAS GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO.
34-94.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the dity Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. PluMMer, Mr. Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
63. GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
A.T.P. TRACT 898 - DOUGLAS.GARDENS
CONDITIONAL USE
CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITION
The following resolution ,aas introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1022
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
"CONDITIONAL USE" AS LISTED IN ORDNANCE NO. 6871,
ARTICLE VIII, SECTION 1 (11) (d), TO PERMIT CON-
STRUCTION OF ADDITION TO JEWISH HOME FOR THE AGED
ON ALL OF TRACT A T.P. #898 "DOUGLAS GARDENS" AT
151 N.E. 52ND STREET, ZONED R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY
MULTIPLE) AND R-2 (TWO FAMILY) PROPOSED TO BE RE-
ZONED R-4, WHICH 'CONDITIONAL USE" WAS GRANTED
BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. ZB 35-74.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE
64' OFF STREET PARK G WITH lO'
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1023
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
"CONDITIONAL USE" AS LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO.
6871, ARTICLE V, SECTION 1 (6) (b), TO PERMIT
USE OF TRACT B, T.P. #898 "DOUGLAS GARDENS",
AT 150. N.E. 52ND STREET, IN CONJUNCTION WITH
JEWISH HOME FOR THE AGED AT 151 N.E. 52ND
STREET, PROPERTY ZONED R-1 (ONE FAMILY ) AND
R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE), WHICH "CONDIT-
IONAL USE" WAS GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESO-
LUTION NO. ZB 36-74.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, and Vice -Mayor Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
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GRANT 6-MONTH EXTENSION OF CONDITIONAL USE
65,
TENTATI E PLAT - . TRACT 182 -_ RIVER COVE
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1024
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
"CONDITIONAL USE" (PLANNED AREA DEVET,OPMENT) TO
BE LOCATED ON TRACTS 1 AND 2, TENTATIVE PLAN NO.
896 "RIVER COVE" AT NORTH RIVER DRIVE AND 17TH
AVENUE, PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE
XXXI-1, ACCORDING TO PLANS ON FILE, SUBJECT TO
RELOCATION OF DRIVEWAY AND DEDICATION OF RIGHT
OF WAY ON NORTH RIVER DRIVE, PORTATION RECOM-
MENDATION; ZONED C-4 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL) AND
W-1 (WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL), PROPOSED TO BE
REZONED R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE) DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso. NOES: None.
ABSENT: MayorFerre.
Vice -Mayor Reboso: I have a question on 7. The City Manager
recommends 7 ?
Mr. Simpson: This involves the extension on the Four Ambas-
sadors that was processed under the old ordinance. The City
Manager as of this time has already processed and approved
two six-month extensions. They are now asking for a third
six-month. This is the one that they wanted to expand their
conference room and convention center on the southeast corner.
Vice -Mayor Reboso: Are we waiving here 227 off-street parking
spaces?
Mr. Plummer: We already have.
Mr. Andrews: We already did that. This merely extends that.
You already did that, you're not waiving it here.
Vice -Mayor Reboso: Don't they have any additional property
across the street?
Mr. Simpson: Yee, and this was part of their presentation
that at this time they did not want to develop that entire
area into a parking garage but they had overall plans for
the area between Brickell and Bayshore Drive that would in-
volve a very huge parking structure in conjunction with an-
other tower.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Vice -Mayor, there is nothing to preclude, if
you wish, from having these people come in and we present to
them what it is that they want extended for your review before
you act on it.
Vice-MayorReboso: I would like to because I think they have
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the land and I don't see why we should waive 227 parking
epaces . .
Mr. Andrews: Oh, you have that priviledge. All you have to
do is adopt a motion...
Rev, Gibson: Mot only that, but the other matter that in the
same area, we have to think about, you know, whether or not
we're going to have that traffic problem and all of that. We
need to have them in here and speak to.the issue.
Vice -Mayor Reboso: I move for deferral of H.7. and let's
have them here.
Mr. Plummer: As I recall, there wasn't anybody here in oppos-
ition before except a few of the tenants.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion of deferral on H. 7.
is there a second?
Rev. Gibson: Second.
The preceding motion to defer was introduced by Vice -Mayor
Reboso, seconded by Rev. Gibeon, and passed and adopted by the
following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH
66. MANPOWER PLANNING COUNCIL OF DADE AND MONROE COUNTIES FOR PURPOSE
fifigeflan. gUICEEF
P tO�RAM,
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plumper
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1025
A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 74-583
AND ENACTING A NEW RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO ENTER
INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MANPOWER PLANNING
COUNCIL OF DADE AND MONROE COUNTIES, PURSUANT •
TO CITY OF MIAMI RESOLUTION NO. 74-111, FOR
THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING FUNDS TO OPERATE A
MIAMI PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM BEGIN-
NING Rio EARLIER THAN THE MONTH OF JULY, 1974,
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plumper,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mr. Plummer: Let me bring up a point about "I", Mr. Mayor
and I want to put the manager on notice. This is for temporary
part time help. Is that correct?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, this is, let me say temporary part time,
these are full time positions funded through the federal govern-
ment through the manpower title II program. We'll get up-
wards of 40 positions that we'll have available.
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Mr. Plummer: For what, six months, a year?
Mr. Andrews: No, a year and possibly longer.
Mr. Plummer: All right, now here is the point I want to bring
up and put you on notice at this time. This City has never been
saddled before with unemployment compensation. Now I think
that in the same time that we receive grants that we ought to
keep in mind that some of that grant money is going to have
to be diverted to pay that unemployment compensation. So if
we have to have 38 employees with enough money to pay the un-
employment should it occur, I want to put you on notice that I
want you to hire 38 instead of 40.
Mr. Andrews: All right, fine.. This was one that could be
considered in that area, yes. And I want to point out that
the great value of this program is that we do not have to
follow all of the standards of Civil Service in that we can
employee people who are under employeed as far as the City of
Miami is concerned. In other words, they lack the training
to pass the examinations. We can 'capture those people through
this program and train them and get them to pass the examin-
ations.
Mr. Plummer: Great, but I'm still reminding your that I'm
looking this year, conceivably of $400,000 this City has never
had an obligation to pay in the past. That money is going to
have to come from somewhere. If it can be diverted from the
grant to pay part of that fund then I think it should be.
Mr. Andrews: Your thought is a good one, I can't answer that
that is possible but we'll certainly explore it.
Mr. Plummer: Let me, and this is maybe out of order, Mr.
Mayor, but I'd like to take them because you were the one
who brought this up before and if I'm out of order I'Il bring
it up at another time. Park Police, Mr. Andrews, I've had
expressed to me by a great number of people and the thoughts
of the Mayor; is it possible that in this budget that we're
going through that we can consider the institution back into
that park of one or two mounted police?
Mayor Ferre: Bayfront Park?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean in addition to the park patrol?
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's going to be part of the park pat-
rol and I'm speaking of that particular one. The Mayor spoke
about the three wheelers in there and the three wheeler runs
through there, you can't talk to the policeman and if you base
it on the guy in the grove, there's nobody any friendlier or
better known that that man down there. I think even the Chief
referred to the metal cocoon that enwraps a man that takes
away the personality. I know I'm out of place, but I would
like this to be brought up during Budget time that serious
consideration be given to the furtherance of the mounted patrol
of two men in the Bayfront Park area and the hopeful expansion-
ary.
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67. DIRECT CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE BY ANY APPROPRIATE MEANS
CITY OF. MIAMI. VS. MARJORIE E. WILSQ) EJ.AL. PARCEL 70a8.75.14
Mr. Lloyd: 'tea J is a resolution to actually settle on one'
parcel of property involved in the Government Center. Now
this property has been acquired in condemnation procedings by
a declaration of taking and at the time of the order of taking
the 'City put into the registry of the court the amount of
$70750.00 so what we're talking about is the difference be-
tween the amount that was put into court and the amount that
we proposed to settle for. Now the appraised value of the
property by our appraiser is $74,000. Now the site contains
7500 square feet of area. There was on it at the time a two-
story CBS apartment house and a two-story frame rooming house
on the lot. Now the settlement figure of $88,800 represents
20% over the appraised value. Now the 20% is being recommend-
ed for We owe attorney's fees. This was never put in the court.
When you have a declaration of raking you do not put money in
for attorney's fees -you simply put in for the appraised value.
So therefore, we do owe reasonable attorney's fees, we owe the
appraiser'.s fees, costs for the exhibits, we owe the interest
on the difference which was put into the court and we would
owe the difference and would be charged by the court if we
went to a final hearing on this and other costs so we feel
this is a reasonable settlement, washes out the whole thing
on this particular parcel including all of the costs and we
recommend it.
Mr. Plummer: You say in your memo it will save the City money.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You say it saves the City money?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir because we would have an exposure if we
went to court of all of these same expenses plus the possib-
ility, the probability the jury will come in with some figure
between our appraisal fee which they always do and the other
appraisal fee. I'll second it if it makes sense.
Mayor Ferrer It makes sense to me. And the Attorney is
recommending it.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1026
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE, BY ANY APPRO-
PRIATE MEANS, THAT PART OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
V. MARJORIE E. WILSON, ET AL., CIVIL ACTION
NO. 73-788 DEALING WITH PARCEL NO. 7088-75-14
IF SAID TERMINATION CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY A
TOTAL PAYMENT TO THE LAND OWNER, HIS ATTORNEY,
AND APPRAISERS OF $88,800, AND AUTHORIZING
AND DIRECTING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI TO ALLOCATE THE NECESSARY SUMS FOR
SAID PURPOSE.
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
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Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOSS: None.
6$. PROPOSED INRTHE uU AMENDMENT tIEDASERVICEEOFTTH CITY. OF MIAMI°
Mr. Lloyd; Let tee explain the legal ramifications of this and
then Mr. Andrews will explain his part. This is already gone
on the ballot. We're not changing the question. Mr. Andrews
just wanted a change in there and this will not change the
question but this does change one page of the regular ordinance
so we have to re -do the ordinance.
Mr. Andrews: I can explain it real briefly...
(INAUDIBLE)
Thereupon the City Attorney read the ordinance by title.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission when
this was before you and you adopted it the present Charter
provision provides language which says the "unclassified ser-
vice shall include the City Manager, his assistants and the
secretarial staff" When that was presented to you for adjust-
ment to include the Deputy City Managers so it could be placed
on the ballot, the words "his assistantg'was inadvertently
left out and that's very important that that remain. That
would have made an adjustment in the Charter had it been left
that way that would not be one that the Commission would want
that I would want or....
Mayor Ferre: I'm glad you clarified that. Ok, we understand
what we've got.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORIDNANCE NO. 8288,
SETTING FORTH A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT,
AMENDING SECTIONS 19 AND 62 OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI CHARTER FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDING
DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS,TO UNCLASSIFIED POS-
ITIONS IN THE SERVICE: OF THE CITY BY ADD-
ING THE TITLE OF DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TO
SECTION 62, SUBSECTION (a) (a), AND IN
SECTION 19-C AUTHORIZING THE COMMISSION BY
ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE OFFICE OF DEPUTY
CITY MANAGER AND PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINT-
MENT OF THE NUMBER OF DEPUTIES AS THE COM-
MISSION DEEMS APPROPRIATE; AND SUBMITTING
SAME TO THE ELECTORS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
IN THE NOVEMBER 5, 1974, STATE OF FLORIDA
AND DADE COUNTY GENERAL ELECTION; PROVID-
ING THAT THIS PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT
SHALL BE REFERRED TO AS PROPOSED CHARTER
AMENDMENT NO. 3; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
CODE SECTIONS OF PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT,
INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; CONTAIN-
ING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; DECLARING
THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE;
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING
THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF
NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF
THE COMMISSION.
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was introduced by Mr. Reboso and seconded by Rev. Gibson for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the re-
quirement of reading same on two separate days, which was
agreed to by the followingivote-AYES; Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. PluMber, Mt. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. Where-
upon the Commission, on motion of Mr. Reboso, seconded by Rev.
Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -AYES:
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor
Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8300.
The Mayor announced that each Commissioner had been furnished
a copy of the ordinance.
69. WAIVE RENTAL FEE - MIAMI STADIUM FOR USE OF
MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE -DOWNTOWN CAMPUS FOR BASKETBALL
PRACTICE SESSIONS isEfT 15 THRU IIVSL.10 1374 ppON PAYM4T 0f cQuS
Mr. Plummer: If he will also recommend the payment in advance
of the charges... Mr. Mayor, I think it is fair.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, with that stipulation.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION Ni). 74-1027
A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR
MIAMI STADIUM FOR USE BY MIAMI DADE COM-
MUNITY COLLEGE, DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING ITS BASEBALL PRACT-
ICE SESSIONS SEPTEMBER 15, 1974, THROUGH
AND INCLUDING DECEMBER 1, 1974, SUBJECT
TO PAYMENT OF LIGHTS, INSURANCE AND OTHER
DIRECT COSTS CHARGED BY THE CITY IN ADVANCE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOBS: None.
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE - IMPOUNDING OF VEHICLES
70.
Mr. Andrews: The current procedures in the City of Miami are
to pick up vehicles which are illegally parked for a period
longer than 24 hours or a vehicle that might be involved in
an accident, a vehicle that has been apparently abandoned on
the street and remains there for a long time and most of these
vehicles plus vehicles that are involved in the commission of
a crime are then carried by private haulers to the City of
Miami Auto Pound where we attempt to contact the owner so that
a claim can be made for the vehicle. After 45 days have passed
and if it is a vehicle that has not been involved in the com-
mission of a crime and one that we want to keep for evidence
purposes and after 45 days state law permits us to auction
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that vehicle off which we do from time to time and then the
auto pound is reduced in the number of vehicles and we keep
operating that way. We hate come to learn that there is an-
other procedure that can bf: used which would take the City
out of the area of administering this and this is.a function
that's carried on by the Police Department and we wish to re-
lieve them as much as possible of this administrative duty.
And also, whenever government can put itself in a position
where private enterprise can render service equal to that
which government accomplishes and where we do not loose con-
trol, it is fair for private enterprise to carry out that kind
of business. What we're proposing through this ordinance in
the six districts that we've established in the City for the
collection of vehicles, that those private agencies involved
in doing that where they have the capability of housing the
vehicles that they pick up rather than delivering them to an
auto pound they would be delivered to the private agency.
There is state law that governs the impounding of vehicles
by private agencies and the state law is followed then in the
final disposal of that vehicle based on the charges that are
accumulated against it for the storage period of time. This
is a process that Metro has used to my knowledge, successful-
ly for many years.
Mr. Plummer: A couple of complaints that I've gotten, and I
think they are legitimate complaints; this isn't going to sound
good but I think it is the truth; a man has his car stolen, his
car is found and it is towed to the pound. Somehow or another
by our fault or whatever it is this man is not notified for
10, one guy told me 18 days his car was held in the pound; now
they want $18 for towing and they want three or four or what-
ever the fee isper day times 18 and he is now subject to pay-
ing $125 to get his car back.
Mr. Andrews: I can assure you and I've been involved in this
process from time to time, I haven't in the last year obvious-
ly but I can tell you what has happened in the past because I
personally becaue involved in some of these. When we can dem-
onstrate that we have made a sincere effort to try to find
the owner and we were unable to do so through the registrat-
ion and so forth, then the full charge was applied. When
there have been circumstances that it was apparent that the
owner was readily available and we were just unable to contact
them we've made adjustments in those charges; and on certain
occasions we have voided the charges completely when there were
circumstances that warranted. So I won't say that there haven't
been errors committed because you're dealing with a large
number of vehicles and occasionally an error does occur.
Mr. Plummer: You know it is one thing in canceling your own
bill; it's another thing in canceling a private bill. Now
are you going to have the flexjbility if we give you this
latitude that a private hauler says hey, I don't care who's
fault it was I've been storing the car for 10 days - I want
my money"?
Mr. Andrews: No, you will not have that latitude.
Mr. Plummer: Then I've got to vote against it.
Mr. And rews :
governmental
Mr. Plummer:
You've got to remember that there are other
agencies that are operating this way and
That doesn't make it right.
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Rev, Gibson: Nor does it set a good PR for us either: I'm
not so sure sometimes we need not loose a few good dollars for
PR over against doing that other thing. I have some real gut
reactions to some of these private outfits would do to the
average guy out on the street and I don't think we, the City
ought to stand still for it a minute. I react negatively to
that because I could see now a guy swears.he tried to notify
but maybe he didn't, you know... He says "Look buddy, you
give me that money or..".
Mr. Plummer: Well, you've got another problem anu I know
you've got another problem that you haven't brought out about
the actual physical storing of the automobiles in the pound.
Paul, can't we arrange for somekind of compound over on Key
Biscayne or Virginia Key on all of that property we own?
Mr. Andrews: We've got a place at the stockade where we can
continue this activity up on Milam Dairy Road.... Excuse me
Commissioner, but I would appreciate that the Commission not
take final action on this. If you want to do anything defer
it until I can get some of these other questions answered for
you rather than close the door and say you're not going to do
it.
Mr. Seth Sklarey: First of all, it seems.. My name is Seth
Sklarey, 1298 N.W. 10 Avenue. It appears on the face of the
ordinance that you're in conflict in part with the Dade County
ordinance on the same subject. The Dade County ordinance
provides a 48 hour period of waiting where people have to be
notified that they can wait 48 hours before there is a manda-
tory towing. I'm not talking about if there's an accident
and the car is in the middle of Biscayne Boulevard or some
thing like this. Generally, an ordinance like this leads the
way to a tremendous amount of abuse. You could take numerous
examples, for example, the State Office Building where people
have had their cars towed away, they have them towed away on
say a Friday night and they can't get them back until Monday
morning, they have to pay the extra towing charges, they might
go down to that, they have to take a cab down to the towing
yard then they don't have enough money to pay the towing and
have to wait several days and be severly inconvenienced. It
is also a ruse used by the Police Department...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. What you're overlooking is the
fact that they did something illegal.
Mr. Andrews: And inconvenience the entire city. There are
places where cars are parked where two lanes of traffic have
to funnel into one because people are parking improperly.
Mr, Sklarey: I understand the traffic problem. What I'm
saying is this. There is no reason those cars have to be
towed into a pound. They could be towed up the road, off the
right of way. Also, this ordinance leads the way for one of
police abuse and there are numerousrecords, the ACLU has a
number of cases they presented before the County Commission
on this where the police use it as a ruse to search cars
rather than going down and getting the search warrants that
theyshould get. I think that there should be some no'ice
provided for the people who's car is about to be towed away.
I think there should be a provision that the person should
have an alternative to being towed. They should be able to
call a member of their family perhaps and have them come and
pick up the car. There is no excuse. All this is is a revenue
producing measure for the towing companies. It does absolutely
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nO benefit for the public whatsoever. I have no objection
as I said to towing it off the right of way if a car is block-
ing the way or if there has been an accident but to tow it
into tnebody's private yard, then you have no recourse.
Mr. P1u ner: All right, why don't you just take all of those...
Mayor Ferre: That makes sense to me, Mr. Andrews.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, I can tell you that what this gentle-
man is suggesting will not work; will not work.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you look into it
Mr. Sklarey: I would also suggest that the Commission look
into the Grand Jury Reports on this back in the early 60's
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Andrews: We have and
Mr. Sklarey: There were numerous abuses and I think you're
just opening the door for the same kind of thing again. Police
receive kickbacks from the towing companies to have the cars
towed and I think that if anybody should handle this, I think
the City should handle it.
Mr. Andrews: In fact, what the gentleman is referring to was
the first of a series of major changes that the City of Miami
went through in regulating this whole area. Our next step is
that whether we're going to con':inue with the same procedure
or not or modify it, the next step is to put this under direct
bidding contract which the City Commission will award for per-
iods of time.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE)
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's refer it all to the City Manager
and you can come back with your recommendations, take this
man's thoughts into I move that we refer it to the City
Manager.
Mr. Sklarey: Also one other thing. I would like the record to
reflect that the public has not received copies of the things
that you're discussing now.
Rev. Gibson: I think you ought to ask if you're new to coming
here and give their side of the question too.
Mr. Sklarey: Certainly, I think
Thereupon a motion to refer this item to the City Manager
for study was introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded by Rev. Gibson
and passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENTS Mr. Reboso.
Mr. Andrews: The two go together.
Mayor Ferre: The motion was for m and n as I understand it.
A motion to refer item "n" to the City Manager for study
was introduced by Mr. Plummer, sego nded by Rev. Gibson and
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mx. Reboso .
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Mr. Plummer: Along these same lines, when you come back I
want you to consider another point, Mr. Andrews. For sometime
I've been concerned about the Police Department using the
method of which 1 know they don't like, and I think maybe try»
ing to save the public a few dollars can create us havoc that
we're not going to be able to live with; that they on occasion
with let's say a drunk driver, be a call for a two roan unit -
one to drive the incarcerated person and the other one to drive
in the car. Now I'm just thinking about the City's liability
of a policeman driving a private vehicle and I'll tell you
quite frankly I don't know of any cases since I've been a com-
missioner and maybe there haven't been but I'm scared to think
of what the liability would be if something happened with the
policeman driving a private vehicle and an accident occured
where somebody- God forbid - got killed or injured. What I'm
really saying to you is twc fold (1) it takes the city out of
a position of liability incase of accident and (2) it helps
to alleviate the time consuming problems we're having with
the policemen to keep them on the street. So I would like for
you when you come back to also speak to that particular problem
because I think it is a problem and I think it is two fold or
it would accomplish two ends.
71, "PROTECTION AND REMOVAL OF TREES" AMENDING CHAPTER 64 OF THE CODE
To. EXTEND S. DPE OF THE EXISTINS, TREE ORDINANCE
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have not yet received on "0" what
I requested originally. Mr. Manager, I asked Mr. Ferencik to
give me a copy of a proposed cost for the policing of this
matter because I think it's going to be; Mr. Ferencik told me
that it was going to take a minimum of six new personnel to
enforce this ordinance. So I think we ought to know the cost
factor involved and go into it with our eyes opened up. I'm
all for the trees. You've revised it? Alright, tell me what
it is going to cost to enforce this ordinance. You know this
green grass and blue skies is beautiful but it's expensive too.
(INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Andrews: Commissioner Plummer, I don't have the figures
before me here but from my recollection Mr. Ferencik sent me
a memorandum detailing all the costs involved and it approached
$50,000... When I reviewed this I concluded that because this
matter is going to be publically reviewed in 6 months from now,
remember that this was one of the conditions that we set, that
the only person that we really needed to employ at this time
and maybe we should have that person in the department anyway,
was the person who would be proficient in the area of landscape
architecture but he would be one who would be thoroughly ground
and a professional in evaluating trees and landscaping. That's
the person that we need to apply to have in the department and
the cost was considerably less but I can't remember the figure
now as to what it amounted to.
Mr. Plummer: I want it made a part of the record the City
Manager's memo dated September 9, 1974 file A-144 where he
has only approved this as to form but he cannot make any fur-
ther recommendations because he feels that this broad control,
if I read it without going through it is, that it is going to
be very tough to police.
Mr. Andrews: That was the whole point of coming back after
six months inorder to evaluate it because there are so many
good parts of this ordinance but other parts that are difficult
to control and administer over that after six months of exper-
ience with this we could certainly come back to the commission
and give you better guidelines as to what was needed.
Mr, Plummer: Ok. Remember I told you.
M Andrews: Commissioner Plunmer, I'm agreeing with you that
there are areal in here that are difficult but the intent and
thrust of the ordinance I think is a good one.
Mr. Piutmner: I agree.
An ordinance entitled:
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING CHAPTER 64, ENTITLED
"PROTECTION ANL REMOVAL OF TREES" OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA AND
ENACTING A NEW CHAPTER 64 ENTITLED "ENVIRON-
MENTAL PRESERVATION" TO PROVIDE FOR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION OF AREAS WITH
EXTENSIVE TREE CANOPY, SCENIC ROUTES, UNIQUE
GEOLOGICAL FORMATION AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT
ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES; PROVIDING FOR SPECIAL
REVIEW PROCEDURES AND OUTLINING A PROCESS FOR
PUBLICLY IDENTIFYING AND PRESERVING ENVIRON-
MENTALLY SIGNIFICANT SITES OR AREAS; PROVIDING
THAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE OR SUB -SECTION
SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL
NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING PROVISIONS; REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT HEREWITH.
passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 23,
1974, was taken up for its second and final reading by title
and adoption. On motion of Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Rev.
Gibson, the ordinance was thereupon given its secone and
final reading by title and passed and adopted by the follow-
ing vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs.
Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8301.
The City Attorney announced that each commissioner had been
furnished with a copy of the ordinance and that copies are
available to the public.
Mayor Ferre: Just out of curiosity, I was just asked when
did we name that Siegendorf Bicycle path?
Mr. Plummer: About two years ago.
6-MONTH EXTENSION OF VARIANCE -
72. LOTS $ THRL.1 13 - BLOCK 104S - BRIcKELL ADD AMD (13-113)
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, Vice -Mayor Reboso,
the gentleman from the Four Ambassadors is here and if you
wish you could ask him the questions that you were wishing to
pose before and we could dispose of this matter this evening
if you wish. If we find that there are areas that we can't
administer, Mr. Mayor, in this tree ordinance then we'll read.
ily tell the Commission.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Four Ambassadors.
Mr. Carl K. Hoffman: Mr.
standing as to the time I
simply are that there was
We're back to your item, the Sheraton
Mayor, I apologize for the misunder-
was to be out here. The facts very
extensions on the variance. You will
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recall, Commissioners and Mr. Mayor, that the Commission
unanimously passed the variance on this when it was presented
to this Commission. It took some time to do the architectural
work and when that was completed we went before the acting
director of the Building Department in the absence of Mr. Ferencik
who was on vacation, Mr. Mayer was the acting director and Mr.
Ross Apgar of Apgar and Martin Construction Company and Mr. Trip
Russell the architect and myself were there at this conference
and we tendered the check to him for the building permit and he
said that he was sorry tilt he could not issue the building per-
mit although it has been approved by every department in the
City of Miami and the County Pollution Department and he said
the reason he couldn't issue it a very simple reason, that the
State of Florida has passed a ban on the: hook-ups in view of the
sewage situation at Virginia Key and his hands were tied. I
even asked him if he would be in a position to issue it condit-
ionally so we would have the permit and then that we proceed
and when the state lifted the ban and he felt that his instruct-
ions were such that he couldn't proceed in 'that fashion and
therefore, I think it is within the province of of this Commis-
sion to grant an additional extension of time until such time
as the state ban is removed. We are ready to proceed with the
work we would start tonight or tomorrow morning if we could but
we need the building permit and I think you can confirm and there
is no questions the City Manager and the other people that the
city has approved each and every department the application.
Mr. Reboso: Don't you have any additional land across from
the Four Ambassadors?
Mr. Hoffman: Well there is some additional land across from
the hotel and that was covered during our preliminary and pre-
ceding application in discussion with the City Commission;
other words, that's been covered and we have an agreement that
the City Attorney has approved and everything is in readiness
so that all we need to do; in other words, that's not involved
in this. What is involved in this variance is the additions to
the ballroom and some additions to kitchen and dining room fac-
ilities.
Mr. Reboso: The waiving of 227 parking spaces, this is what
I'm asking.
Mr. Hoffman: We are providing the spaces. We will provide
those spaces. In other words, that was waivered only until
such time as structure parking could be provided. We are
actually providing those spaces right now and we will continue
to provide those spaces. That is the agreement that the City
Attorney has agreed.
Mr. Reboso: You are requesting here three years, a three year
extension... The waiving of 227 off-street parking spaces for
a period of three years.
Mr. Hoffman: No, we are actually providing that parking right
now on the surface parking across from the hotel and we will
continue to provide that parking even in the event that property
is developed.
Mr. Reboso: Then we don't need this provision here....
Mr. Hoffman: No, it is already granted by the Commission.
All we need is the extension of the variance for six months
because we've gone beyond the administrative period that the
City Manager could do it. I need the continued waiver. All
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we're asking is the continuance of the variance grahted for
an additional period which we hope is not more than 30 days.
We have some reason to believe that the state
Mr. Reboso: I don't oppose the variance itself but I'm opposed
to the waiving of 227 off-street parking spaces.
Mr. Plummer: Well, as I recall they couldn't have the first
variance without the second.
Mr. Reboso: Why not?
(INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Dave Simpson: Commissioner Reboso, when an expansion of
an existing use comes up for a building permit the law requires
them to meet all of the regulations as they exist at this time.
The Four Ambassadors did have adequate parking when it was first
constructed some ten or twelve years ago. The parking regulat-
ions have changed since that time so when the expansion of the
ballroom came before public hearing for approval it was necess-
ary to re-evaluate the entire complex of the Four Ambassadors
as it exists now in relation to the laws as they exist now and
this is why it was necessary to waive 227. In their proposal
they indicated to the board and this Commission that they have
a building program for the area west of the Four Ambassadors
and that development will encompass a parking garage that will
meet the complete needs of not only that structure but the Four
Ambassadors as it is developed now under the regulations.
Mr. Hoffman: So we're actually providing the parking right now
across the street and we'll continue to provide the parking.
Rev. Gibson: Is that that parking lot?
Mr. Hoffman: Yes, sir. It is the surface parking across the
street.
Mr. Reboso: The City Manager recommends?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 1028
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XI-2,
SECTIONS 5 AND 6, AND ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4
(32), TO PERMIT ALTERATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO
EXISTING APARTMENT -HOTEL -OFFICE COMPLEX LOCATED
ON LOTS 8 THRU 13, LESS WESTERLY 370', BLOCK
104S, BRICKELL ADP AMD (B-113), MAKING LOT
COVERAGE OF 36.02% (28.69% PERMITTED BY RESOL-
UTION NO. 36582), AND FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 3.65
(3.59 PERMITTED BY RESOLUTION NO. 36582),
WAIVING THE DEVELOPMENT OF 227 OF 943 REQUIRED
OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES FOR A PERIOD OF THREE
(3) YEARS, LOCATED AT 801 SOUTH BAYSIRE DRIVE,
IN AN R--CB (RESIDENCE -OFFICE) DISTRICT, SUBJECT
TO CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN RESOLUTION NO. 73-184.
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(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the dity Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummex the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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Mayor Ferre: We passed the tree ordinance. We'd love to have
you stay here as long as you want. You can't believe it, can
you? Don't leave yet, stick around for a while.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, you'd better make sure that these
people understand that this is going to be all reviewed pub-
lically in six months so that it is on a trial basis really.
Mrs. Gordon: The Manager recommended that it be done on a six
month trial basis, that a permanent person with the skills of
a landscape architect be employed by our department to adminis-
trate it. Do you want to speak to it? I think it's alright,
don't you, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ok, quickly.
Mr. Michael Simonoff: I'd really like to know if it passed
and that means that there is an administrative assistant from
the Building Department and there is a board composed of 5
people that will look to the environmentally preserved areas
that the City will establish with the Planning Department.
Now, this is what the ordinance says. There are two different
situations based upon the land that is ascertained and I would
like to talk about the administrative assistant because I be-
lieve that the man that is down there now, Mr. Tully is a very
qualified person. I have worked with him on jobs before and I
know that he has made a great effort to learn the various things
that are required for this particular position and I don't really
think that a landscape architect is a requirement to be the ad-
ministrative assistant. You know Tom Tully is a person that is
there and he is a member of the Building Department and .....
Mayor Ferre: That's an administrative decision. The Manager
will have to make that decision. That's his baby.
Mr. Simonoff: Well, I understood that this passed based upon
the man being the administrative assistant being a landscape
architect.
Mayor Ferre: That's not part of the motion, is it?
Mr. Plummer: We don't have that purview.
Mr. Andrews: I was careful not to say that
Mrs. Gordon: We didn't include that in the motion, we just
passed it.
Mr. Alan Serkin: I don't exactly understand the rational or
the reason why this is going to be a six month trial and then
have a public hearing. What can you do in six months?
Mayor Ferre: In six months we're going to prove or disprove
that it's working and how much,it costs and then this Commis-
sion has to make that decision.:
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Mr. Serkin: But how can you begin to set aside districts and
catalog areas and get something working produceively in a six
month period?
Mayor Ferre: So we'll pass it for another six months.
Mr. Andrews: That's right, and I think the test of the ord-
inance will collie about in the first major area we run into
where you have a district and someone wants to create a project.
Mayor Ferre: We'll see you in six months.
Mr. Serkin: Can I just ask what the advantage of doing it
this way is, why can't it be enacted and then just discarded
if it doesn't work?
Mayor Ferre: The administrator recommended that it be done,
the Manager recommended that it be done that way and we accept-
ed his recommendation as logical.
Mr. Andrews: And 1 can tell you why, Mr. Mayor, if you wish.
Mayor Ferre: You've already said it a couple of times. You
tell him in private because we've been over this four or five
times - at every meeting this has been discussed. Right?
Mr. Andrews: I'll discuss it with you and answer your questions.
We can make an appointment and I'll be glad to sit down and dis-
cuss it with you.
Mr. Simonoff: The thing that I understood was that at the end
of six months any Commissioner or any Commissioner at any time
could bring up discussion of any ordinance but I didn't under-
stand that this thing should be passed on a six month trial
basis because I don't believe legally you can pass a law on a
trial basis. Otherwise after 5 months somebody decides they're
going to wait until .he end of the next month and do what they
want to do.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, we could use another terminology. We
pass it, at the end of six months we'll vote to change it....
You're ahead of the game....
Mrs. Gordon: It's just like it is in the agenda, it doesn't
say anything in the ordinance.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND AGREEMENT
73' FMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACT OF 1971 ADDING 2 POSITIONS
Mr. Plummer: With the same provisions keeping a reserve for
unemployment compensation, if possible, I'll move "p".
Mr. Southern: Do you want that, Mr. City Attorney, to amend
the resolution or does it have to be just conversation in con-
nection with the adoption?
Mayor Ferre: No, he wants that stipulation in there and that
is part of the motion and second; the stipulation is....
Mr. Lloyd: Just add that by interiineation on the end of it,
provided that. Provided that funds be saved if possible, that
sufficient funds be kept out if possible for unemployment com-
pensation purposes.
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Thereupon the amended resolution was introduced by Mr.
PluMMer who roved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 74-1029
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT OF APRIL 5, 1974
BETWEEN DADE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI
TO MARCH 31, 1975, EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 1974,
PURSUANT TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACT OF 1971: FURTHER
AUTB)RIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND SAID
AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE TWO (2)'ADDITIONAL
POSITIONS EFFECTIVE AFTER SEPTEMBER 1, 1974,
SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Elrk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
-74, APPOINTMENT OF FIVE PERSONS TO SERVE ON THE
LAW ENFQ F, NT CQMMUNITY OUTRE,ACK ARP CAREER BlgiNtIMIVRY BOARD
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I want to voice something, I'm not
opposed to ...I'm going to tell you the way we operated the
church: I can do like you now, you know how you run Maule, you
know; I find it difficult, I'm not so sure I'm always anxious
to appoint anybody. You see the grant is going to FIU....Wait.
Listen to this. FIU is involved. Now I may not have the log-
istics together - FIU is involved, Francina Thomas works for
FIU. I want to make sure the people who monitor this thing
could slap the boys on the wrist when they ain't doing the
right thing. My observation is the guy who pays the bill de-
cides on whether you play this side of the piano or that side
of the piano, if you understand what I mean. All right. That's
why I'm ... You see, none of those other folk are similarly
tied. Well he may, but he's tied for a different reason. Man,
I think it is an .... I may have a poor way of explaining it.
Mr. Plummer: I understand also, Mr. Mayor, but you know, I
think we're missing one point.
Rev. Gibson: What is that we're missing?
Mr. Plummer: I think this, if I recall correctly, Mr. Manager,
is the grant we almost or we did in fact loose. Am I correct
in that? Isn't this the grant, Mr. Manager, that had been
turned down because of the lack of who was on the committee?
Mr. Andrews: No, not that I'm aware of. No.
Mr. Plummer: Isn't this the grant that was turned down and
you were informed because of the....
Mayor Ferre: It was never turned down. There were a lot of
discussions back and forth which have been verified and denied
and verified and denied again and frankly, I don't know how
much of it was fact and how much of it was fiction. It had
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something to do with the structure of thee... One of the
objections at one time was the committee.
Mr. Plumber: that's right and we appointed a committee,
basically these that we're recommending now who were acceptable
to get the grant. Now atn I out of character?
Mr. Andrews: I can't say you're right or wrong.
Mr. Plummer: Let me refresh the Mayor's memory who came
before this commission and said that he had been informed that
we had been denied....
Mayor Ferre: No, that we were to be denied.
Mr. Plummer: We were to be denied beccuse the committee in
the Police Department who had been choken to do this work was
not representative of what they were looking for and tht is
when the Mayor called upon - my God, there was furor up here -
we lost $390,000 because they put a committee together in the
Police Department - there were no blacks, no Latins and we run
out to these people and asked for help and they've got it.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, but what you're talking about is someone to
assist in the implementation that was needed for the grant but
that's not the committee. I don't think anybody was identified
as committee members in this.
Mayor Ferret I think there might be some confusion between
the actual committee and those who were assisting in prepar-
ing the grant and the fact that the sergeant that was to be
in charge of the grant was a non -minority member and so on and
so forth.
Mr. Plummer: That's right, but you also stipulated at that
time by formation of this kind of a committee to keep that from
happening in the future and it was these people that we're
putting forth now who saved that grant.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, but that committee was, let's say the Mayor's
appointment of people to assist in the getting of the grant but
this committee is part of the actual requirement of the grant.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Let me tell you something about how 1 feel
about it. If that committee, whether they sav'sd or they pulled
out of the pool $390,000, I want that same committee working
for me.
(INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Andrews: $300,000.
Mr. Plummer: Damned right, I want that same committee. If
they can pull one out of a loss column I want them there work-
ing on the win columns.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Father, you don't have your appoint-
ment yet, is that correct?
Rev. Gibson: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I will appoint Mr. Angel Moreno and
Father will submit his appointment in the future.
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f
Mre Andrews: Mr. Mayor, eacF member of the CoMMisaion then
who have not Made an appointment will submit it to the Clerk
so he can fill in the resolution,
Mr. Plu Mer: What the manager is saying is we've approved
whoever Gibson's is all he has to do is send it in to the
Clerk.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1030
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING FIVE INDIVIDUALS
TO SERVE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
OUTREACH AND CAREER PROGRAM ADVISORY BOARD.
(Here follows aody of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mrs. Gordon the resolution was
passed and adopted by the follaing vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr.
Plummer. Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and MayorFerre. NOES: None.
75, COCONUT GROV BMX - 14ODI FI CATI OIt OF DRIVE-IN TELLER'S
Mr. A. R. Harrison, Jr., Executive Vice-nresident o= the
Coconut Grove Bank: Mr. Mayor, for the past year or more
we've been working closely with the Director of Public Works
and members of his staff to evolve a safer and more efficient
vehicular traffic pattern for the bank. The renovation by the
City of Bayshore Drive is proceding along our property with
curb cuts, sidewalks, landscaping, etc., to conform with the
form approved by both the City of Miami and the Directors of
the Coconut Grove Bank. We are not adding buildings to the
bank property but rather we are improving our drive-in teller
service by the use of remote teller units served by a one-way
traffic pattern. The parking and landscaping on our site is
being substantially upgraded to help us obtain our objective
of furnishing better drive-in teller service. In addition to
establishing a better functioning and safer drive-in system
we're also advancing community vehicular and pedestrian safety
on the roads surrounding the bank property. It should be obv-
ious that our upgrading the drive-in teller facilities does
not fall under the moratorium or the ordinance. However, the
Building and Zoning Department does want approval by the City
Commission before a permit is issued.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I want to raise the same question.
We said that we weren't going to do certain things in Coconut
Grove until such time as you finished this study business.
Isn't that what you told us? .I'm not opposed to what you want
to do because I'm sure it makes it easier for me to bank my
money even though I don't keep it there long enough to get any
interest. But I have to make sure that I understand I'm not
losing faith to the people who are here, who came here and we
promised them or we made a committment. Now are we going to be
keeping that coimaittment if we do this? The reason I'm asking
is the very fact that the Building Department, let me say sir
why Gibson is a little jittery, the very fact that the Build-
ing Department didn't issue a building permit implies that
128 S E P 121974
they believe the intent of our action was not to let anybody
pursue other than. Yes, we Said that. Now all I want to know,
please understand I'm not arguing against. All 1 want to know
is are we going contrary to what we grade as a coMmittment?
That's all 1 want to know.
Mayor Ferre: Are we? Didn't we also state that we would elm)
listen to cases...
Mr. Andrews: Yes, and that you'd arrive at an independent judg-
ment as to whether those reasonably conform to what was found
for the....
Mrs. Gordon: Are those plans or something you're carrying in
your hand?
Mr. Harrison: Yes, Ma'am.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask the obvious question. Have these
plans been submitted for review?
Mr. Harrison: Yes, sir. They have been submitted.
Mr. Plummer: Does the Planning Department and thelBuilding
Department approve of this item?
Mr. Ferencik: They have been submitted to the Building Depart-
ment and we've,processed them. They have been submitted to the
Planning staff and they've looked at them and feel that they
are in conformity with the plan that has been worked out over
the past year with this bank. Now this is only relating to the
teller windows that we're talking about, the drive-in teller
windows.
Mrs. Gordon: It's all on the property that's presently being
used for banking purposes?
Mr. Harrison: Yes, the property is presently being used for
drive-ins and have been used for the last 14 years as drive-
ins.
Mrs. Gordon: You're not expanding into the next area?
Mr. Harrison: No, Ma'am. In fact, we're doing this partly
at the request of the City because our present traffic pat-
tern on Friday afternoon sometimes causes cars to park out in
Bayshore Drive - getting them off the street.
Rev. Gibson: Let me raise a question that I did not raise.
I received, and one of the disadvantages of living in the
Grove and having the faith, the people in the Grove is they
don't ever let up on you. For some reason either they have
more interest or they seem to be more knowledgeable and cer-
tainly they keep my feet to the fire more than most folk.
Let's make sure, now somewhere in that area there's a house
under discussion.
Mr. Harrison: Not with this. No, sir.....
Rev. Gibson: Let me make sure. As long as these are not tied
I want to make sure they're not tied. Is that right? Ok.
Now Mr. Acton, Mr. Ferencik, based on, based on what has been
recommended by and ]a rge as the overall program for the Grove,
how does this fit in with what....
•
Mr. Ferencik: This property was originally in the Coconut
Grove Interim Zoning District. It was taken out of the Coco-
nut Grove Interim Zoning District, the RC property down on 27th
avenue was taken out of the Interim Zoning District. However,
there's a Coconut Grove Planning Study that is going on which
extends all the way from the Rickenbacker Causeway, Douglas
Road on the West from the Bay to U.S. 1. This is in the Coco-
nut Grove Study Area and the resolution that was passed, you
haven't acted on that study area yet and a resolution was pass-
ed that said that any building permit that was issued in that
area with the exception of R-1 and R-2 properties or repair
permits in R-2 and R-1 was limited up in the area around the
Plymouth Congregational Church that any building permits that
I issued in that area, that the Commission was going to inde-
pendently review each of these requests and either say I could
or couldn't issue the permits.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Acton and Mr. Ferencik, what these men want,
well maybe... but I certainly would be more intelligent; you
already have the bank there, you already have tellers, you're
driving in and out, you now have the new Bayshore improvement
there and we're still going to bank, you know. One way or the
other we're going to get there but what they're saying is they
want to make it easy for us to bank and not have to back up the
traffic on the road. Isn't that what you're saying?
Mr. Harrison: That is correct, sir.
Rev. Gibson: All right, now how do you respond?
Mr. Ferencik: Well, Father Gibson, there are two issues that
are involved really today. Mr. Harrison and what he's talk-
ing about right at this point has to do only with the drive-in
tellers at the Coconut Grove Bank. In essence, all they're
doing is reorganizing their traffic pattern, they're modernizing
their drive-in teller situation, the drive-in tellers they are
really adding a little piece of canopy out over now what a part
of the parking lot that doesn't have a canopy over it. That's
all that's involved in this particular request that's in front
of you right now. This request that he's talking about at
this moment. There is another issue that I think you'll find
that these people are here on but it doesn't have anything to
do with this particular....
Mr. Andrews : Let me interrupt for a minute. Can you give
the commission a positive recommendation that with reference
to the study that they're going to be reviewing on the 19th
that this practically has absolutely no effect on that what-
soever?
Mr. Ferencik: I think Mr. Acton should answer that.
Mr. Acton: The answer is yes.
Rev. Gibson: Alright, I move based upon your professional...
Mr. Harrison, I want you to hear that. He told me it's alright.
Beautiful.
Mrs. Scribbner: I live at 3310 Cornelia Drive. I would like
to know whether this plan which involves the teller windows at
present is complete in itself or whether it envisions a future
possibility of more parking space being developed on adjacent
property.
Mr. Harrison: This is complete and on itself. The part on
which you address yourself is my second request.
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Mre, Jordon* I think we should hear both requests and then
vote.
Rev, Gibaotn: Where is the other request? That's on the red
sheet.
Mr. Andrews : The only thing that I have that was made avail-
able to us for placement on the agenda was a personal appearance
by Mr. Harrison who is here, Executive Vice -President, Coconut
Grove Bank request for building permit; reference - drive-in
teller modif cations.
Mayor F'erre: Well, what's the second request you're talking
about?
Mr. Harrison: I'd like to get on the agenda either tonight
or at a later time. We have an additional problem with the
City in that we're being required to provide some additional
parking spaces for the so-called Ryder Computer Building. This
is completely separate from this particular building permit.
It has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Mayor Ferre: Is that another building?.
Mr. Harrison: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but the request is adjacent to the existing
property you're discussing now and it also refers to a piece
of property that has been designated by this Commission as be-
ing a piece of property for historical preservation. The ad-
dress of the property is 3310 Cornelia. Well, we can't, that
comes out of Washington, the final decision but it was among
the ones that we recommended as I understand it.
Mayor Ferre: You understand that you might get this and not
the other.
Mr. Harrison: Yes.
Mayor.
The other has nothing to do with it, Mr.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Let's get the record
now. That house was not one of the requests which
that we made to Washington. This is a proposal of
requests that could be; this house is not involved
straight
was the six
24 additional
in that.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I still want to go with my motion.
I'll deal with that second one.
Mr. Harrison: That's completely a separate property.
Rev. Gibson: That may be a second....may be different. I've
got to have the drive-in tellers. So you take care of that and
whatever happens after that, you're going... for yourself.
Mrs. Scribbner: Excuse me, I think there is a connection
between the two. I think the extension of the teller windows
and the reduction of parking space for the Ryder Buildings are
connected. Now the Ryder System Building was built with about
21 spaces for parking and they have about 100 employees there
and there was an arrangement where the Ryder System Building had
use of part of the parking lot of the Coconut Grove Bank parking
lot and I think there is a.connection between the two and be-
tween the two requests in that this Ryder Syatem's parking has
been taken away and in the future they're going to come up and
they're going to say this building needs additional parking.
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Now there should be some way of resolv.ang that problem...
Mr. Harrison: Father Gibson, we're talking about :apples and
Oranges here.
Mrs. SCribbner: Apples and oranges sometimes get mixed up.
Mr. Harrison: The remodeling of our drive-in and the re-rout-
ing of the traffic by doing this, we do not loose any parking
places on our property. We don't need anymore parking places
on our property. This is the Coconut Grove Bank parking log
and drive-ins. We're putting in new teller equipment and it
does not change anything.
Mayor Ferre: Look, that's part of the record now.
that statement on the record and you can come back
that at any time in the future and say "That's not
said on September 12". Ok? It's on the record.
He's made
and pull
what you
The following resolution was introduced by Rev. Gibson
whomoved its aoption:
MOTION NO. 1031
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST OF COCONUT GROVE
BANK FOR ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR
DRIVE-IN TELLER MODIFICATIONS AT SAID BANK.
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
76, PREPARED RESOLUTION_ - CENTRAL SHQPPING PLAZA
The Mayor announced that each Commissioner had been furnished
with a copy of the following resolution and that copies are
available to the public.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr._Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION 74-970
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE MODIFICATION OF
CENTRAL SHOPPING PLAZA DEVELOPMENT ON TRACT
"A", CENTRAL SHOPPING PLAZA (68-79), LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 3875 NORTHWEST SEVENTH STREET,
AS PER ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XIII, SEC-
TION 4, TO INCLUDE AN EIGHT -STORY BANK AND OFFICE
STRUCTURE, AS PER MODIFIED PLAN, DATED AUGUST 6,
1974; ZONED C-1A (PLANNED SHOPPING CENTER); THAT
THIS APPLICATION BE GRANTED WITH THE FOLLOWING
STIPULATIONS: 1. THAT THE WALL WHICH EXISTS
BE RAISED TO A LEVEL OF 6 FEET; 2. THAT THE
LANDSCAPING BE ADEQUATE TO HIDE THE WALL FROM
THE OUTSIDE VIEW; 3. THAT ANY EGRESS TO THE
NORTH SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED TO EXIST ON
37TH AVENUE; 4. THAT THERE BE COMPLIANCE
WITH THE CODE AS TO LIGHTING AND ADEQUATE
DRAINAGE; 5. THAT ADEQUATE MAINTENANCE BE
ADHERED TO BY THE OWNERS; 6. THAT ALL OF
THE ABOVE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW TWELVE
(12) MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF OCCUPANCY.
132 SEP 121914
(Here folloWs body of resolution, omitted herd and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson ',fie resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
NOTE: The preceding resolution was adopted in the form of a
motion earlier in the meeting in conjunction with Item 7.
77. REQUEST OF VICE PRESIDENT OF COCONUT GROVE BANK FOR ADDITIONAL
PARKING SPACES TO FACILITATE NEWLY PURCHASED COMPUTER BUILDING
DISCUSSION=AND DEFERRAL
Rev. Gibson: So that the gentleman don't misunderstand us, you
said you had two items and I hope we didn't just cut you off.
We heard one. Now that second one that you didn't have here,
you will come back at another time? Wait, tell those people
not to leave! Come in here please. Either hear them now or...
Mayor Ferre: How long is it going to take?
Mr. Harrison: About 10 minutes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Can we do this legally? What is it that you
want?
Mr. Harrison: This is completely unrelated to my first request.
Mayor Ferre: But isn't there a process and a procedure where
this has to be advertised and all? No? Well. what is it that
you want?
Mr. Harrison: We recently purchased the computer building
from Ryder Systems on Tigertail which is near our parking lot.
The City requires us to provide one parking space for each
400 feet of building in order to continue our certificate of
occupancy. We need 26 additional parking spaces and we are
requesting, we have purchased the property immediately adjacent
to the computer building, a 90 by 142 foot lot on Cornelia
Drive that has a residence with a detached garage and we're
requesting a demolition permit so that we can proceed to pave
the lot.
Mayor Ferre: That's the second thing that you wanted to re-
quest?
Mr. Harrison: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Who wants to speak on that? Ok, go
ahead.
Mr. Langdon Rogers: I'm Langdon Rogers, I'm with the Coconut
Grove Chamber of Commerce and I'm speaking right now as a cit-
izen. Gentlemen and Mrs. Gordcn, I hope that you will show
some consistency when dealing with this and I refer back that
we are having a planning meeting for Coconut Grove on September
19th. I hope that you take no action on this today and defer
it or else I'm afraid you're going to bring the people of
Coconut Grove down here in a mob scene like you had once before
and I believe Father Gibson, you know what I'm talking about.
I beg you to defer this item at this time.
133 SEP 121974
Mayor Pierre: We've got to give people the rights to express
their opinions en it. Obviously it something that more than
one person wants to speak on. Right?
Mr. Rogers: 'Yes, sir.
Mayor ?erre: So let's defer this itewwith all due respect...
Mr. d'immy bean: Now wait. Nol Just a second because we're
willing to live with this study and the study says that you
give these people a period of time to raise the money to re-
locate the building on your property and that is the process
that we'd like to get started. We've got bids on this thing.
Mr. Harrison: We'd be very happy to donate this to whatever
worthy group is interested in it.an
Mr. Dean: We will live by the study.
Mayor Ferre: Where are you going to move it to? Who is
going to move it and who is going to pay for it? Where is
it going to go?
Mr. Dean: They pay for it. It says ideally we can put this
next to the....
Mayor Ferre: But that's not the question that's before us.
•The question is whether or not people have a right to speak
on it. That's really what the question is. It's not whether...
Mr. Dean: Well I'd just like to get the process started
because to defer it....
Mayor Ferre: What does the process involve? What do you want,
an approval here?
Mr. Dean: No. Yes, We'd like an approval and a time certain
at which time....
Mayor Ferre: Jimmy, if we approve it here then how do you get
into the process of letting people speak on it?
Mr. Dean: Ok. Well, after they speak now.
Mayor Ferre: But that's the point that he's trying to make,
that there may be other people who want to speak on it.
Mr. Dean: Ok, fine. Then let's at the next Commission Meet-
ing which is perhaps the procedure, but let's not....
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, see that 19th up there? Isn't that
the day that it's all going to hang out about Coconut Grove?
Now what we're saying to you is that we wanted; that's why I
wanted to make sure we didn't misunderstand you. You told us
what you want. Now what Theodore is saying is you must come
back on the 19th and tell us exactly then what you want to do..
Mr. Dean: Now... It was the essence of this committee when
we were discussing this moratorium that we've got in this City
right now that you could get a building permit if you lived
up to this ordinance or this proposal and that's precisely
what we're trying to do.
(INAUDIBLE)
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Mt. Dean:
we did.
(INAUDIBLE)
We made an application for a building permit,
Mt. Dean: It can't, it's'not a Zoning Board matter. All we're
trying to do is get the process started.
(INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, the second item we're dis-
cussing now, is it on your agenda?
Mayor Ferre: No, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It is not. Then I don't think you have
any right to discuss it.
Mr. Dean: We agree to that.
Mayor Ferre: That's true, but we have taken and can take
items out of pocket. That's not the point. I happen to agree
with the premise that you stated and that's much more important
as to whether or not it's on the agenda and that is that other
people that want to speak on this, they have the right to do
it. That's all. Make it a part of the 19th.
Rev. Gibson: I want to let you leave as my friend. I did
one thing, now I want to do the other. I would respectfully
suggest to both of the gentlemen who are all lovers of Coconut
Grove that you come back on the 19th which is just next week
and tell us; this does not imply that we are for or against.
We just want to keep faith with all of those people that came.
Mr. Dean: The 19th hearing in a special hearing to consider
four items concerning this report. It has nothing to do with
our applying for a building permit for this parking lot.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Lloyd, let me, so these men can go away with
the right... If on the 19th we would have heard all of the dis-
cussion and all of it, you know, and if we served notice now
that we were going to take that up. as a special item, can we
do it under the law?
Mt. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: A11 right. Then Mr. Dean, here's what I'm saying
to you. We will then tell the proper parties or persons from
the City to make this a part of the 19th meeting.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we can certainly get all of the interested
parties here on the 19th. Right?
Rev. Gibson: You can believe it.
N\
Mayor Ferre: Ok. We'll hear this on the 19th, first thing
out. Before we get into that document we're going to give you
about 10 or 15 minutes and you're either going to fly with
this thing
Mr. Dean: All I'm going to say is that we're willing to live
with the document.
Mayor Ferre: A11 right, then you say it and this Commission
will make its decision at that point.
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Rev. Gibson: Right.... So that they wouldn't say that we
promised...
Mayor Ferre: The only point that's up before us is whether
or not people have a right to express their opinion on it.
There are some citizens that want to express their opinion.
Let them express their opinion. Please, eight O'clock.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: How is it that an building that was
just finished less than a year ago is now short parking spaces?
Mayor Ferre: Come to the 19th hearing and you will hear it.
78. DESIGNATE FIRMS AS 3 CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR
THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NELGNDORItOD DEVELOPMENT PLAN
79,
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 1032
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE FIRMS OF WALLACE,
McHARG, ROBERTS AND TODD; ROGERS, TALIAFERRO,
KOSTRITSKY AND LAMB; AND BARTON-ASCHMAN ASSOC-
IATES, IN THE ORDER OF PREFERENCE, AS THE THREE
(3) CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY MANAGER
FOR THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOP-
MENT PLAN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson,: Mrs. Gordon and MayorFerre.
NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH UNDERWOOD MARINE CORPORATION FOR
PURPOSE OF EXECUTING 6 MONTH LEASE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT'
S91-ITH J3&YsHDRE _
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1033
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO ENTER
INTO AN AGRI EMEN V WITH UNDERWOOD MARINE
CORPORATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXECUTING A
SIX MONTH LEASE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY
LOCATED AT AN'.) AROUND 2550 SOUTH BAYS}K RE
DRIVE AND COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS DINNER KEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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110
$O, ETTMHANSEN OND CQ PAANyyQQ PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IN THE
MIANNII - ENSIO� 1�IATT�K�
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1034
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO EMPLOY THE FIRM OF
HANSEN AND COMPANY FOR PROFESSIONAL
ASSISTANCE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI'S PEN-
SION MATTERS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$3,500.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Rev. Gibson,
Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
81, ORANGE BOWL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
DESIGNATE THREE FIRMS IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE.
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1035
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE FIRMS OF KINDE AND
ASSOCIATES - U.R.S. MADIGAN-PRAEGAR, INC., CARR
SMITH & ASSOCIATES, INC. AND RADER & ASSOCIATES,
INC., IN THE ORDER OF PREFERENCE, AS THE THREE
(3) CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY MANAGER
FOR THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Mr. Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mrs. Gordon,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
82, CHANGE THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 MEETING DATE TO BE HELD IN THE
AFTERNOON (TWO P.M.) AT AvELAN]t U{ LGHTS
The following resolution was introduced by Mr. Reboso who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1036
A RESOLUTION CHANGING THE OCTOBER 24, 1974 CITY
COMMISSION MEETING PLACE AT 2:00 P.M. FROM CITY
HALL TO THE STEPHEN P. CLARK COMMUNITY BUILDING,
GRAPELAND HEIGHTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the City Clerk's Office.)
137 SEP 121974
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by tle following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Reboso, Rdv. Gibson, Mts. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
lOES: None.
83, SCHEDULE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING SEPT,23,I974 3P,M,
1NCIDERATION OF ZONING ORDINANCE FOR BURLINGAME_ISLAND
The following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1037
A RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A SPECIAL COM-
MISSION MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 23, 1974,
AT 3:00 P.M., PERTAINING TO ORDINANCE
NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING
ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY
CHANGING THE ZONING OF CLAUGHTON OR
BURLINGAME ISLAND FROM R-4 to SPD-1.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES; Mr. Reboso,
Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
84,-CHANGE DATE OF SECOND C04IMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER To SEP 27,
ThA following resolution was introduced by Mrs. Gordon
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 74-1038
A RESOLUTION CHANGING THE DATE OF THE
REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 26, 1974,
WHICH IS YOM KIPPUR, A JEWISH HIGH
HOLY DAY, TO SEPTEMBER 27, 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the City Clerk's Office.)
Upon being seconded by Rev. Gibson the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer,
Mr. Rebos►o, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
85, DISCUSSION ITEM - STATUS OF CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS FOR PROPERTY
AT LATIN RIVERFRONT PAW(
Mayor Ferre: For the record, and
ication and all, Mr. Lloyd I want
this Commission up to date on two
well for us, the Latin Riverfront
road filling suit.
Mr. Plummer for your clarif-
you to very quickly bring
lawsuits that haven't gone
Park and the F.E.C. Rail -
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir. In the Latin Park situation the Circuit
Court denied our right to take the property claiming that we
138 SEP 121974
were premature with respect to the'necessity of taking and we
are currently preparing a petition for rehearing if that is
denied by the court we will appeal ifl ediately.
Mayor Ferre: Appeal to the Supreme Court?
Mr. Lloyds District Court of Appeals. Now then
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Lloyd, I hate to be the one and I'm not aim-
ing this to you, I bring this fact to the Commission. You
know nothing is going down. Everything is going up in price.
When this thing originally came before this Commission document-
ed in the minutes I made this statement at that time that the
price that was being allocated was not realistic. It was out
of question. There was no way that we could acquire the prop-
erty for that reason. Now, they came back before this Commis-
sion or it was brought back at a figure double what had been
allocated. Now, I think that you should put this Commission
on notice. If I remember the figures correctly it was some-
thing like $240,000. The last appraisal we had was $500,000
and that's been 6, 8 or 10 months ago. Now if we appeal this
to the Supreme Court and we win how much more? Well, it's
not the same old story because I keep trying to change this
story.
Mayor Ferre: Now J.L., look. What we're fighting over,
unfortunately is the same deal, not the sam- but similar to
the F.E.C. What they're saying to us, this fellow - the
owner of the property's lawyer is telling the court - the
City of Miami does not have a clear cut need to take my prop-
erty. Is that right, Mr. Attorney?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: And the court said you're right. So it isn't
a question of how much you're going to pay for it, the court
is telling us we can't take that property.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm not disagreeing with you. What
I'm saying is are we going to• be another Ball Point; we're
going to win the battle but lose the war?
Mayor Ferre: What alternatives are there?
Mr. Plummer: To drop the suit now. If we know for a fact
today that that property is going to cost us; I don't know,
I don't know...
Mayor Ferre: Listen, the time'to cross that bridge is after
the Circuit Court of Appeals either reverses the thing or
doesn't. Because I don't think we're at that point yet.
Mr. Plummer: I ask that question.
Mayor Ferre: That's my opinion
Mr. Plummer: Are we at that point? In other words, what I'm
saying in simple words - we win the battle, we win the court
suit and then we find out that the property has jumped up to
$750,000 or a million dollars. We can't afford it. So I say
to you I think now is the time to re-examine. You know every-
body voted including me even though I interjected at the time
that it wasn't a realistic figure. I once again after six
months or eight°months ago when we doubled it to $500,000.
139 SEP 121974
Mr. Crouch: I would like to just correct the figures that
you're dealing with, the statement you're making is correct
but the original estimate by the City before any appraisal was
made was a half a million dollars and we got the quarter of a
Mil lion dollar grant from the Federal Government for the ac-
quisition of the property. After we got the first appraisal
the value of this property was approximately $900,000 and that
is an appraisal that is a little over a year old now.
Mr. Plummer: All right, what I'm saying is, and thank you for
correcting me, are we conceivably looking at today that he
wins in court that we can conceivably be looking at a million
and a half.
Mayor Ferre: We don't know that.
Mr. Crouch: If this is input to you, when I negotiated with
the people for the acquisition they told me that individual
parcels were, that they had appraisals that would set more than
a million dollars on a parcel.
Mr. Plummer: You see, these are things, Mr. Mayor, we're
sending our lawyers to court and we're going to maybe win the
battle. Now, let me say and let me bring up one other point
and I'll shut up. I've made my point once again. We spoke
at the time of an alternate. That alternate being rather than
one large parcel which they wanted and solely this Commission
went on record for, of conceivably going to two or three other
parcels. Is it time to review?
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'll tell you what let's do. Mr. Manager,
I think this is something that the administration should give
serious study. Now my personal opinion is that this is not
the time for us to give up. I think we should continue this
court battle at least to the appellate court and see if we could
get a reversal on this. It's most unfortunate and I don't like
this idea that we get continually knocked down on these suits.
Now I understand your point, and you're talking about money
and I understand but we're not talking now about any 15 or 20
million dollars but relatively, in my opinion, task to do. In
other words going up from half a million to a million and a
half is certainly a lot easier than going from 7 million to 15
million. So we're getting down to the practicality of the sit-
uation. In my opinion this is not the time to fold it up.
Would you in the meantime look into this and come back to us
with a recommendation.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes. In the meantime, of course, we do not yet
have to file the petition for rehearing because the time hasn't
run for that yet.
Mayor Ferre: John, that's exactly the way we always end up
getting clobbered. I think this is....
Mr. Lloyd: Well, it is only a matter of a few days. We'll
file it in the next few days.
Mayor Ferre: In the meantime the prices are going up so the
quicker we move the better off we are. So for goodness sakes,
unless the Commission tells you otherwise file that petition
please.
Mr Lloyd: We'll file it.
140 SEP 121974
86, II11CU S1ON ITEM - STATUS OF F.E.G. FILL PFRMilT
Mr. Lloyd: file other matter is the fill case with respect to
the F.E.C. AR you know we got a temporary injunction prevent-
ing them from further filling pending the decision of the cir-
cuit Court to find out whether the new statute creating Biscayne
Bay as an acquatic preserve applied to prevent further filling
without further action of the I.I. Board. The F.E.C. took an
appeal from this and the district court of appeal reversed the
circuit court. They just denied our petition for rehearing on
the same day we filed a petition for certiorari in the Supreme
Court of Florida with our acc,mpaning brief. That was done
yesterday, on the same day as' we got notification of our denial
for petition for rehearing.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. The point of the story is that we tried. We
went through the lower court and they said yes, they gave us
the right to stop the filling. The Appellate Court reversed
them and now we're on our way to the Supreme Court with certior-
ari. Of course the implications are obviously bad because the
people who heard this were a panel of three judges and as you
all know it is a little bit more difficult to reverse the
Appellate Court than it is the lower court to the Appellate
Court.
Mrs. Gordon: Was there a unanimous decision?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Unfortunately, it was a unanimous decision..
In all likelihood, I'm just being practical, that the impli-
cations are bad for the City. I just want you to be aware of
what is happening.
Mr. Lloyd: There is one thing more that I wish to tell you.
We contacted the Attorney General of Florida on this and the
Assistant Attorney General handling this does not agree with
me that the statute applies. Therefore, he will not file any-
thing in the court. I asked him if he would come in as amicus
curiae in the event that he agreed with me and not to do any-
thing if he didn't. I've got that agreement but they disagree
with me and the members of the I.I. Board apparently does also
and indeed the drafter of the statute, the legislator who pre-
sented the statute, not the drafter, also disagrees with me.
Mrs. Gordon: They disagreed with you on that suit but they
didn't disagree with you on adjoining as a friend of the court
on the condemnation did they?
Mr. Lloyd: No. I'm talking solely about this. Although
they haven't yet joined on the other.
Mrs. Gordon: No, but what pursual have you made of it? What
pursual have you made?
Mr. Lloyd: Of which?
Mrs. Gordon: Of the condemnation amicus curiae suit.
Mr. Lloyd: Well there is nothing I can do. I have asked the
Attorney General to come in and Mr. Oxford told me they were
interested and I said if you are and agree with us come on.
They haven't yet filed anything.
Mrs. Gordon; How long ago?
141 SEP 121974
•
Mt. Lloyd: A month ago.
Mrs. ( r on: And what written correspondence have you had
;sine. then?
Mt. Lloyd: No written correspondence from them whatsoever on
that.
Mrs. Gordon: Then in other words you're just letting it die
on the vine.
Mr. Lloyd: I'm not letting it die. I've asked them if they
will come in providing they agree with us and file a brief as
soon as they can.
Mrs. Gordon: Was it in writing the first time?
Mr. Lloyd: They called me up on the telephone and indicated
their interest.
Mrs. Gordon: There is nothing in the files to indicate any-
thing one way or the other?
Mayor Ferre: He's on the record now and he's not about to lie.
Mrs. Gordon: I didn't say he was, I just said that if you want
a document you ought to have it in writing.
Mayor Ferre: Have you pursued this vigorously?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Gordon: No, not vigorously because he hasn't been in
touch with them for a month.
Mr. Lloyd: Well, just a minute. In the first place, right
now I think that I'm not in tune with the idea of having the
Attorney General file a brief at this time because I think it
will delay the matter. I think that we've filed all that we
can. Now if you feel that it is a matter of power to have the
Attorney General to file I'll be happy to write and I'll write
a letter tomorrowasking him if they agree with us to ;go ahead
and proceed with the brief and why haven't they.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's a policy matter.
Mr. Lloyd: That's up to the Commission to inform me to do.
Mayor Ferre: How long would it delay it?
Mr. Lloyd: I have no idea.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what is your opinion?
Mr. Lloyd: I cannot say. It would be a wild guess for me
to say so I hesitate to say.
Mayor Ferre: Would you follow up Bob Shevin and discuss this
with Bob Shevin and see how long he thinks it will delay it.
If the delay is not overwhelming would you ask them to gupercede?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, I certainly will.
Mayor Ferre: And if the delay is, by overwhelming i mean more
than a couple of months or so.
142 SEP 121974
Mrs. Gordon: How long has it been since you have been ex-
pecting it to Come up and it hasn't?
Mr. Lloyd: I can't answer that question because I have no way
of knowing when it will came out so 1 don't expect a time when
it will coMe out and I have never indicated that I did expect
a time when it would come out.
Mrs. Gordon: I know that. So you really and truly can't say
that there's coing to be a delay or not because it could sit
there and you don't know how long.
Mr. Lloyd: No, I can't say there is a delay. However, the
only thing that I can tell you is that the more briefs you're
going to file, if they're going to read them the more time
they have to take.
Mrs. Gordon: But at the other hand you might be able to win
a case that you ordinarily would loose.
Mr. Lloyd: It is possible.
Mrs. Gordon: The same thing pertains to the County. There
has been no pursual at all to get the County to join in the
suit as amicus curiae either. I don't honestly think that
that is the right procedure.
Mr. Lloyd: That's not so. That's not so.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, what have you done for the County to {jet
them to do it?
Mr. Lloyd: I have conversed with Stewart Simon on the matter
and he is debating whether or not he should come in or not and
I told you that.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, have you had anything from -Simon in writing
or have you been communicating with him in writing?
Mr. Lloyd: No, I hav(_n't and I haven't been instructed to do
so.
Mayor Ferre: Well put it in writing so we won't have any
questions. Of course, I wart to make a point on the record.
The fact that it isn't in writing does not mean that you
haven't done it.
Mrs. Gordon: But it documents it, doesn't it.
Mayor Ferre: It is documented now on the record....
Mrs. Gordon: Well, it wouldn't have been if we hadn't con-
versed about it.
Mayor Ferre: That's why I brought it out.
Mrs. Gordon: A lot of comedians on the Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, this isn't no comedy. Why do you think I
brought... I could have walked away from here and kept quiet
about it. The fact that I brought it out I think speaks for
itself.
143 SEP 121974
ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business to come before the
City Commission, the meeting was adjourned at
ATTEST: H. D. SOUTHERN
City Clerk
RALPH G. ONGIE
Assistant City Clerk
8:15 O'Clock P.M.
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
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SEP 1:: 974
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FfV OF MAMI
DOCUMENT
INDEX
MEETING DATE:
SEPTEMBER 12, 1974
ITEM N0
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
COMMISSION
ACTION
RETRIEVAL
CODE NO.
COMMISSION AGENDA & CITY CLERK REPORT (31 pgs)
MODIFICATION OF CENTRAL SHOPPING PLAZA DEVELOP-
MENT - 3875 N.W. 7th ST.
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE
KORNER.
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE
ECHOLS.
LATE HENRY W.
LATE JAMES H.
GRANTING PERMIT - LOT 12, 3405 MAIN HIGHWAY FOR
PARKING LOT.
GRANTING PERMIT - INCLUSION OF "FINANCIAL FEDE-
RAL SAVINGS AND LOAN" AIRPARK PLAZA - N.W.
CORNER OF N.W. 7th ST. AND 57th AVENUE.
VARIANCE - CONTRUCTION OF ADDITION LOTS 20, 21,
AND 22, BLK.4. - 241 N.W. 54 ST.
COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF L. C. MORRIS, INC.-
REID ACRES HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4349.
ESTABLISH RESERVES - CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR
POLICE IMPROVEMENT.
ALLOCATING FUNDS NECESSARY TO FULFILL THE
INSTRUCTIONS OF R-74-614
COMPLETED WORK - BEN HURWITZ, INC. - DOWNTOWN
GOVERNMENT CENTER - BUILDING DEMOLITION.
COMPLETED WORK - MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY - ROBER
TO CLEMENTE PARK - RESURFACING BASKETBALL COURT
COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION - CARL J. HOENES, INC.
FOR THE EDISON PARK TEEN CENTER.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY
- AUTHORIZE FINAL PAYMENT FOR WESTERN DRAINAGE
PROJECT E-30.
ACCEPT DEED FROM METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY -
SITE 304.
RENEWAL OF ADVERTISING AGREEMENT - BETWEEN
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY AND CITY OF MIAMI.
ACCEPT BID - OREN ROANOKE CORPORATION - G.P.M.
CUSTOM BUILT PUMPERS -FIRE DEPARTMENT
ADVERTISING AGREEMENT WITH ADVERTISING AND
MARKETING ASSOCIATES, INC.-EXTENSION OF 2 YEARS
R-74-970
R-74-971
R-74-972
R-74-973
R-74-974
R-74-974
R-74-976
R-74-978
R-74-979
R-74-980
R-74-981
R-74-982
R-74-983
R-74-985
R-74-986
R-74-987
R-74-988
0087
74-970
74-971
74-972
74-973
74-974
74-974
74-976
74-978
74-979
74-980
74-981
74-982
74-983
74-985
74-986
74-987
74-988
D.OeUMENit IN DEX
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ITEM! NO.DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
19. 1 .ACCEPT PLAT - BAY CLUB SUBDIVISION
C0*OE SI0N ♦ RETRIEVE ••�
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20. AUTHORIZE PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING -
OBJECTION OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTIJN OF JEFFERSON
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4350
21. 'DESIGNATING THE SIEGENDORF BICYCLE PATH A
RECREATION AREA FOR USE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
22. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE
TO ABBOTT'S .RECYCLING INDUSTRIES,. INC.
23. APPOINTING TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS - ECOLOGY AND
BEUTIFICATION.
24. CHANGING DATE OF PUBLIC HEARING - FOR THE TRANS'
-FER OF CERTIFICATES OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE.
25. APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE GENERAL
CULTURAL HISPANIC COMMITTEE.
26. PROCLAMING THE POLICY OF HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK
IN MIAMI.
27. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - JUANA RODRIGUEZ A MINOR AND
PEDRO RODRIGUEZ HER FATHER AND NEXT FRIEND.
28. 1 CLAIM SETTLEMENT - MONA LUDWIG
29. 1CLAIM SETTLEMENT - LEVY AND MAURICE I. LEVY
HER HUSBAND.
30. CONFIRM ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN THE
SUBMISSION OF STATE GRANT APPLICATION TO
INICIATE PROGRAM FOR COMMUNITY DAY CARE
31. CONFIRM ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN THE
• SUBMISSION OF STATE GRANT APPLICATION TO
INITIATE PROGRAM FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES
4 FOR HANDICAPPED.
32. 1CIVIL ACTION - CITY OF MIAMI VS.
ET AL. PARCEL NO. 7095-4
33. 1CIVIL ACTION - CITY OF MIAMI VS.
ET AL. PARCEL NO. 7095-5
GISELE FASHIK
GISELE FASHIK
34. WAIVE RENTAL FEE - USE OF THE MIAMI STADIUM
BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL.
35. ACCEPT BID - MIAMI ELEVATOR COMPANY - REPAIRS
ELEVATORS AT ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
36. ACCEPT BIDS - HUBERT H. HANSEN & ASSOCIATES &
LONG AMALGAMATED INDUSTRIES, INC. - DAY CARE
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
37. PAY DEPARTMENT OF LABOR $25,327.40 AS FULL
REPAYMENT OF ALLEGED DISCREPENCIES IN EXPENDI-
TURE OF FUNDS UNDER EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACT.
R-74-9.89
R-74-990
R-74-991
R-74-992
R-74-994
R-74-995
R-74-996
R-74-997
R-74-998
R-74-999
R-74-1000
R-74-1001
R-74-1002
R-74-1003
R-74-1004
R-74-1005
R-74-1006
R-74-1007
R-74-1008
74-989
74-990
74-991
74-992
74-994
74-995
74-996
74-997
74-998
74-999
74-1000
74-1001
74-1002
74-1003
74-100.4
74-1005
74-1006
74-1007
74-1008
ITEM NO.
11.
38.
39.
40.
41.
42.
43.
44.
45.
46.
47.
48.
49.
50.
51.
52.
53.
54.
55.
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COMMIb510N ' RETRIEVAL
ACTION
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
Ainomormonammir
•
MODIFYING AGREEMENT FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AFTER
SCHOOL CARE DEMONSTRATION CENTERS IN THE CITY
OF MIAMI.
AWARD BID - FENCE MASTERS, INC. FOR THE SILVER
BLUFF PARK DEVELOPMENT (FENCING)
AWARD BID - BISCAYNE CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR THE
LUMMUS PARK- SHUFFLEBOARD COURT:' RESURFACING.
AWARD BID - BRA TURF & INDUSTRIAL•EQUIPMENT CO.
- FURNISHING ONE REEL MOWER.
AWARD BID - GENERAL TRADING CO, - FURNISHING
LUBRICATION USE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION.
NOMINATING THREE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON THE
INTERAMERICAN CENTER AUTHORITY BOARD.
AUTHORIZE EXTENSION OF AGREEMENT WITH H. LESLIE
QUIGG AS YACHT DOCKS COORDINATOR.
OPPOSING THE ENACTMENT OF METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY - COMMUNITY ANTENNA TELEVISION SYSTEMS.
EXTENSION OF
91S 259 S.W.
EXTENSION OF
11, BLK. 15S
VARIANCE TO OFFICES ON LOT 14, BLK
13th ST.
VARIANCE TO DUPLEX BLDG.S.10' LOT
795 S.W. 2nd ST.
EXTENSION OF VARIANCE OF ADDITION TO JEWISH
HOME "DOUGLAS GARDENS" 151 N.E. 52nd ST.
EXTENSION OF CONDITIONAL USE OF ADDITION TO
JEWISH HOME "DOUGLAS GARDENS'AT 151 N.E. 52nd
STREET.
EXTENSION OF CONDITIONAL USE DOUGLAS GARDENS
AT 151 N.E. 52nd ST. FOR OFF-STREET"PARKING.
EXTENSION OF CONDITIONAL USE "RIVER COVE AT
NORTH RIVER DRIVE AND 17th AVENUE.
AGREEMENT WITH THE MANPOWER PLANNING COUNCIL
OF DADE MONROE COUNTIES.
AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO TERMINATE THAT PART
OF CITY OF MIAMI V. MARJORIE E. WILSON, ET AL,
-CIVIL ACTION NO. 73-788.
WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR MIAMI STADIUM -
FOR USE BY MIAMI DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DOWN-
TOWN CAMPUS
EXTENSION OF VARIANCE - APARTMENT -HOTEL -OFFICE
COMPLEX - LOTS 8 THRU 13, BLK. 104S. AT 801
SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE.
R-74-1009
R-74-1010
R-74-1011
R-74-1012
R-74-1013
R-74-1016
R-74-1017
R-74-1018
R-74-1019
R-74-1020
R-74-1021
R-74-1022
R-74-1023
R-74-1024
R-74-1025
R-74-1026
R-74-1027
R-74-1028
COME 110.
74-1009
74-1010
74-1011
74-1012
74-1013
74-1016
74-1017
74-1018
74-1019
74-1020
74-1021
74-1022
74-1023
74-1024
74-1025
74-1026
74-1027
74-1028
c.QCIJN ENT1N D EX
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ITEM NO.
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
COMMISSION RETR EVAL
CODE NO.
AMID
56.
57.
58.
59
60
61
62
63
64
EXTEND AGREEMENT BETWEEN DADE COUNTY AND THE
CITY OF MIAMI - IMPLEMENTATION OF EMERGENCY
EMPLOYMENT ACT OF 1971.
APPOINT FIVE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND CAREER PRO-
GRAM ADVISORY BOARD.
DESIGNATING THE FIRMS OF WALLACE, McHARG,
ROBERTS AND TODD; ROGERS, TALIAFERRO,
KOSTRITSKY AND LAMB FOR MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PLANT
AGREEMENT WITH UNDERWOOD MARINE CORPORATION
SIX MONTH LEASE PROPERTY 2550 SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE
EMPLOY FIRM OF HANSEN AND COMPANY FOR
PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE OF MIAMI'S PENSION
MATTERS
DESIGNATING FIRMS OF KUNDE AND ASSOCIATES-
U.R.S. MADIGAN-PRAEGAS INC., CARR SMITH
AND ASSOCIATES,INC.-CITY OF MIAMI-ORANGE
BOWL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
CHANGING MEETING OF OCTOBER 24, 1974 TO THE
STEPHEN P. CLARK COMMUNITY BUILDING-
GRAPELAND HEIGHTS
SCHEDULING A SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING ON
SEPTEMBER 23, 1974 PERTAINING TO ORDINANCE
NO. 6871
CHANGING DATE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 26, 1974
TO SEPTEMBER 27, 1974
R-74 -1029
R-74-1030
R-74-1032
R-74 -1033
R-74-1034
R-74-1035
R-74-1036
R-74-1037
R-74-1038
74-1029
74-1030
74-1032
74-1033
74-1034
74-1035
74-1036
74-1037
74-1038