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MEA 12/8/7'`i RESOLUTION NO. 7i-11: A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING GRANT OP A "CONDITIONAL USE" AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE V, SECTION 1 (6) (h) , SUBJECT TO PROVIDING A CUL-DE- SAC, AND APPROVAL OP LANDSCAPE PLANS BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF A RESIDENTIAL DEBELOPMENT OF A PLANNED UNIT NATURE ON 100' X 650' TRACT OF LAND BETWEEN S.N. 4TH STREET AND STH STREET, WEST OF 31ST AVENUE, TENTATIVE PLAT NO. 150 - "MIRTA GARDENS", being approximately 426 S.M. 31ST AVENUE, CONSISTING OF 9 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN 9 STRUCTURES, ALL IH ACCORDANCE WITH PLANS ON FILE; ZONED R-1 (ONE FAMILY) DISTRICT. WHEREAS, the Miami Zoning Board, at its meeting of November 17, 1975, Item No. 1, following an advertised hearing, adopted Resolution No. ZB 158-75 by a 4 to 3 vote granting Conditional Use as provided in Ordinance No. 6871, Article V, Section 1 (6) (h) , as hereinafter set forth; and WHEREAS, certain objectors who are residents of the neighborhood have taken their appeal to the City Commission; and WHEREAS, the Commission after due deliberation and careful consideration of this matter finds that the use will not be detrimental or injurious to the chariIRt,p went of the immediate neighborhood; U���„_ ITEM N0...�--- NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA: Section 1. The grant of Conditional Use as provided in Ordinance No. 6871, Article V, Section 1 (6)(h), subject to providing a Cul-de-Sac, and approval of landscape plans by Planning Department, to permit construction of a Residential Development of a Planned Unit Nature on 100' X 650' tract of land between S.W. 4th Street and 5th Street, west of 31st Avenue, Tentative Plat No. 850 - "MIRTA GARDENS". being approximately 426 S.M. 31st Avenue, consiatiny of 9 single family residential units in 9 structures, all in accordance with plans on tile. Boned R-1 (One rattly) District, be and the same is hereby affirmed. "SUPPORTIVE DCCU MENTS FOLLOW a 3 4 S 7 9 9 10 11 12 13 14 iS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 K 2S 20 27 28 29 30 31 33 33 34 3S 36 PASSED AND ADOTPED thi8 1 day of 1975. Maurice A. Pierre C;4---r7- ATTE : H. D. Southern CITY CLERK J PREPARED AND APPROVED BY: MICHEL E. ANDERSON ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY APPROVED AS TO FORM AND CORRECTNESS: J6HN S. LLOYD CITY ATTORNEY 2. 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Avr+nur; Tentati'!r Plat *115O, gARDE, on1itic�nr?1 use ns list.- i in ')r1innn;•0 ( 71, .\R'i'I‘'LC V► ,ioctinn 1 (6) (h) ► to oerrtit construction of r residential d velop"cnt of a Planned unit stature on above site, con- sisting of 1 Bindle family residential units in 9 structures, ,all in aecerc.ance with plans on file; :17ned '? -1. (')nt? '•ote : itr;i le fe.rrea from Zoning Board 'tooting of )/22/75. secretary filed proof of publication of Legal Notice of Hearing and administered r th to 111 persons testifying at this hearing. 1'LA:4NINr, i)i:PART; l NT RECOMMEND\TION : "APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO ,) CTAtL1 b LAND, `7AtE PLAN": The` :anpi:icant has rc v sect the plans according with the Planning 3el.artment recommendations. in view of public premiums afforded the community in the form of: -.. ample open space vr.. 1 ` • .. true pre ervation (all existing trees ,i 7-`•;% t retained or relocated) '' , ' i l it' E -- ample number of parking :paces in excess L• , . A , ,i TS n f. the requirements -- pre vi .ion of recreational facilities (Pool, ' ' nlApp playground and recreation Area) -- extensive landscaping of site and recreation facilities -- residential hone ownershit. (average unit ni nr 1 r,;)O e,ctuare feet) fhe ') � part ent recommends grantino the conditional use to permit a "Planned Unit 'nature". 'tr. ?f'an: '\1rr'1ht, who do we hay,. tonight? iae've got :ir. Whipple? Goor3 to see you. 'fir. wh ipple : Good eveni nt.3 , ladies and gentlemen. I believe this item has been before the Board before. We have recommended approval subject to certain condihions. unless there are some questions, I helieve that will suffice for our recommendation toniciht. Mr. gran: Alright. Alright sir, would you state your name and address 'or the recor.is? r:orner: ":.• name is Robert Korner. I'm an attorney. tier representing the reveloper. The developer is here with me and he will report on the meeting that was held with the group of property owners in the area. As you will recall, this was brought up at the previous meeting of September 22nd . at which time we showed the plans but there were a groat ma:,» • tact n4 and we were given an opportunity to go and visit :r t to the ob ] c c: ors so that we could explain to them better the plan that we had. The recommendation of the Department is for approval. This occurred after several plans were submitted and altered and changed. Finally, we de'►eloped a plan that met with their approval. At the last meeting. there was considerable concern over whether the garbage truck could get in aryl out. For that reason, we have a letter from the .)epartment of :-sanitation approving the plan, indicating that it does comply with their requirements. •2. 30v r 17, 197S Item i1 • We also would like to submit i, an ex';ibit the letter from the Metropolitan ,tale :aunt- t.nvi.ronmental :esrurce 'tanagmment Depart- ment, an far ar uolluti.on in concernr.rd, ant from the '1icami-ade water and Sewer Authority with re,!arti to the water main which the ril!Valoper will be require '1 to not in. A1;o, a., ha170 4') signed waivers of:. ob jt tions from people who live in this area and we would submit all of thin to the Hoard for their Consideration. If lr. r'.ndr.i ue2 would come forward now, he can live the report on the r:oetina with the property owners. :ir. .'o(iriguez: elood evening. name i'- 7.?au1. fodriguez. 'iy ad,ire i ` 1 3?. r) \1cr`tanr?ria Drive. Po11owiart the suggestion of the last meeting, I had the pleasure of meeting with :1rn. Orr, 'ton. 4i11is, "1r. :1artin, moat of the opponents to the project. T .grr,ulht a s(A cif plans and explained to them that this wasn't going to be an apartment building, what is doing to be over there. Just single units, '3 of them. Even though somebody has been telling the neighbors of the neighborhood that it was going to he an apartment building, in spite of that, we. got over 6n property owners' approval for the project. T brought over ordinance ::o. 73q6 which shows that, by law, we're entitles: to one house for every 6,000 feet square of land, but some of them have been only four or t i'.*e units being built over there. I brought_ n rri. , over twelve propf7nals that we submitted to the Planning i)epartnent. 1 explained that the Planning :Department was very Strict on this project Lrcause it's on c)rc ,.atIon district. I explained that those nine units was going to be .wilt a,, an example of what can be built in harmony with Mother Nature. I have complaints from many neigh')ors over there that this property is already called 'lovers' lane' or what is going on over there at night. That's in addition of ' einr.. used as •-a public dump. Also, many property owners over there, next to the lot, complained that they have killed many nnakes coming from ttin lame. I certainly sincerely hope by now they realize that thin project is going to be a tremendous improvement to the neighborhood, not .letrimental to the neighborhood. I just hope, after the meet;ng, they have realized that we're going for the best of the neighborhood. Thank you. Mr. >•:orner: We would, of course, expect to and will comply with t!te conditions of the Planning Department's recommendations. The plan that is before you tonight preserved as much of the landscaping that can possibly be preserved and still develop the property and we feel that the plan before you tonight complies both with the spirit and to the letter of t`1e law it.h regard to Planned Unit Development. I'd like to re- - ,.ine for rebuttal if that's going to be necessary. Thank you. :-fr. aean: .Alright, thank you very much. Those in opposition? Please take this mike. ?rr: I'm Jeanette Orr, 316r) S. W. 4th Street. Thin is the eighth tine I've appeared before this Hoard --(I've ,jot the wrong rllasses) s I'm sorry, this in the eighth time I've appeared here before this Board to fight what I believe to be our right. Every "SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENTS FALLOW" Noverber 17, 197S Item 11 1111111111111 1111111111111111111111111111111111iniii +j, ro++r..t+.wf,.w .'S,:iM{�+.r.Mxa:6 ♦."gyp tiffitt thoro‘ 1.; I now •-•ii-1 rq a!4 It in a1g0 Cat 4,0 t if!• our back yr I; r f i n tr iy rr- the bUildinf/ of t,ILnc ,A.ne ' • 11 throatl. lt'1 atr',osphere in etes, ,,* in. Wu'ro in lirta (lardens at present ag it has not bcon eleare over a year. Actually, we should not 11(We to finht for f)fir rl fht:, in r,-,c1:iffi to this AA in my opinion, it sivollici helonq odd-shape4 tract is the result Of som- i)arl hy fioesn't the City acquire this Am! 05;Q .for 1 a rhurch. In th' inuto` 111 rloetirl, I noticed that the size of this tract wa.. Etetel 65'. ;:hit is incorrect as the area beinq ,,13.1.t on is Onl*: fl. - 11,60'1 square feet, for the actual nine hcun,,s 6,r,17; ,Are tTrot each. The narrow neck that extends *-) ctran,:e 1.3 not being used for the housing. It is 7Y wit, I uniel•stan:i, for if t.tt. ;Lan, the owner will have to go liefore a 17111,112 '.n.,:ironmental Preservation Review Board whic nr. :*ern, - for its complete 'okay' on cutting down or relocatin4 c) the lar-r- t:'ees, and I will say that these trees are so till ,o ; aroun(1, I doubt if any of them could bo relocated. '::hrn ;ou A / pine tree or, an there are back there -- thr-re -- with trunks two Or three feet Jc-ror;.-:. rplooated. I \4 ir t this afternoon, ::mpara allowed to Lo (7ut this Boar!. How 3. out tho the extra load? !:o time for rebuttal, '.ftk.ss Ir. .)aviL:,: -:ir-,r.'nental Protection an- of the trees to be • D ,Ot approval from trart Accommodate all 'or -ear to come. I'd like . • ' ,-1.11-14:y one point, on Mrs. Orr's remarkabout t.. Protection OiStriet. Mr. -17,ission, an :tr. navil: Environmental Protecti,,n )iqtrir-t ind th1,4 -r03ect, in •-a-der to remove the existing folia,N, trees woAd have to appea- before the Liivironmental 'rr)t,04.2.on .:2recee(A.nq any getting 4.)1 a permit, but that's not i .7facer heccre tl.in Board, sir. Mr. in; 'Indorst.and that: Aadam? Did you understand what '!ir. J1vL3 :1r3. irr: Yoq, uh 1 uniorstood that before. Thank you. Nlright. Ahyone Alright air? Mr. lartineT: namc is ',icardo Martinez. I live at 451 S. W. 32nd AvenuP. Es ikoniolP, the people traaucir nor mi? *Ir. Jean: Yen. tih, lr. Vtco-4:hairman? 1. (1r. (ort proceeds to tr1n3late for Ir. -artinez). lr. !Iartine7: ',le wore t-.1.1 to ;)e horr, t:ie 22n4 of September, here it the k:it,:, of Aiami. The rocorunendation of the Board on that day was fou the neifIhorn an(.! thr. ctitionorn to (Yet together to go over "SU nOrr-N,- lc, • I i.../4. i f , r-.. ..., i 4 i , 1 '1'& - . 1 ' 4 1,4 L . f h -4- :,ove!'tor 17, 1,75 Item #1. • i • the pl,1ti't, t.1,1 ;' , t 1 t !' n ono I tit• rtit'nmmtinr111 iff It thin ►nn.'I in,' 1 tl"+.t 1.1 „r+1, !!Ir 'ir"1!"rt,Itllt w1N'r rgprninl to theme Win.; au earl'; I.r"r.tn • 1 .1tot1 `11Ve ttir4.01 in Mitlnatnre from �� lrifr; ,.rt} 1 t.}, .),.i .� 1.r� t tt,(tt' I r, '.}.,, .t• ,r .�1 +rr.r;od f.f 1 t �11 �� I�r:iilt sal • Wr sent. (r)t')0.1 1 3 t:11r Hoard, i.ti► i Hn't know if khese copies have been t.]ki ) i.,ttc) C0n11,'.0rat ir`)f, )1 + ir` oPp(5it].On. Ir. `;ort : 'dr. ,nevi , : Ir. Gott: are .... on thf: ,ap? i)r you v.rint to :{.•l...irL that, Mr. Davin? '.:'he ')etitir)n, 'port, in in the file for review. ; i,sht , and thr. +,n,-s in re•.i -here are the ones that •tr. 'j++:'is: No sir, till•+ :-t- aftor the r_rirtinal application was made and succc'!edinri netitir)n► sir, (`1r. (lr,rt: ex:)lain n in :,:)ani.s1 to 'Ir. '1irtinAz) . Mr. .'zrtinez: showed me a plan and he a plan of what the project lone: like. ,.,ne_ dayI went to the '1iami and showed t:t:.Y, .r; y� ♦.,ll � an 1 ��� .%1.1 �r 4~ r• -frien of mine and .lean! by the person that the nlans were done in accordance with the Article V, Section t) or Section 11. We had Commission were the people, are want you people to this project. gave me City of I was told R-1 zoning, election n in the Cit.', of '"ii .fli whore a :Mayor anti the elected unanimo s !.. the+ :)rnple. I don't see why if we, against thin project :1F r ' , ••`'P care not 1i tened to. I to take into "nl.:;ir3.,r,.t:zo;r that tho people are opposed Than '1r. )r-an: y.) :. Thyono e.l:ie? Anyone else? 71r3. t:illi_ . :' sari ,. _ it .s, ln'3 this property. I just. •.wou' .: l r:., .1 5r n Tze✓stior, of people in the co mmun.i.t,,, -,r,, t ,... ) •.t i to this? that's oDpoccl,i? )earl; If you '_ !�;t a„ map), thole which are in red... !Irs. :•Ji lli3: '1r. .)eats: I live abutting --- do the majority is it a majority "SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENTS FALLOW" r' ' :en;' ;n -`- r ')n.i i F tr1'.`e to t •rs a majority t ul .ir.,. i11t_ ,. 3 opposes? Can he hui i . en it if t?1r: :1d in:-. ty of t'.e people in the neighbor - hoc" oppose it? Is he ac'10 to i>c:i if thrre in a Majority of people in the neighborhood that are nnt)r,i;- : to it? it. are what, , o'.):3C)sed? Mr. .loan: %".r. ')ir. is? Ir. avi:-: `.'.1i::, is a matter that is up to the Board for their .lads ion. r". ' s is •,h•:' thin matter is before the hoard tonight. M' am. lane. 4.:,p4t o: t:. ? community i ,-i very stronc input to the Board. Other inputs are present too, 'd'art, for their decision. :1rn. Willis: 41rirlht, okay. thank you. 'tr. )cant r11.rieht, anyone else? Nirinht., we'll revert back to you (:tr. 1:orner) for a few minutes rebuttal. '1r. ;corner: I realize, of course, that '-')is same piece of Property has boon before the Board on numerous oc47asions in the past. This is the first time tent this owner has rogues Ted the development of it. This develop^:cnt i3 in conformity '•tith the r+,qulations. I dont know r:over^! er 17, 1l7S Item S1 Wile it wart that tr. Tart in talked t_e ttthe Y,ctnan•1 "t f ie..e but the plan hay ben Submitted them and hos be0•1 ' fy►l► ; t'► :fr, in compliance wi t.h the Cadens We are Cami liar with t ,u i sv i ronn v nt i 1 t'rntcction ilctard's requirements a! far as remova-►l. of Ia►►d ,i api n•T and this: in niMply Oren additional protection that those neighl.iors ha,,e that ni)thini wi1.1 be r@moVed that isn't, that can't be savoii. on the one hand, 'i2' s. err ment i.onr t:'i,'1t the property ise badly Overgrown and is is hat.ard an:i then on the other hand, she would Like it to not be developed. We would paint out that by developing the property, it will be nn asset, it, will :.its cleaned up and it will certainly get rid of Acme of ttt<-, proble711 that have been existing on this property for as long as I can rei „>'rr . The mar) that you see there with the red and the green was done prior to the September 22nd meeting. I don't know how many of the 39 signatures on the petition that was; submitted by the objectors ctors are shown already in rod but I'm s+,r-! somv cf them are. 1 know that the 49 signatures that we submittej, n ;r' of them are already shown in green and I would assume there ,►re, certainly, a lot of people object- ing to this and there are, now, with the 41 properties added tonight, a considerable number of neoril'e w:to ire in favor. The property has to its developed and we feel that the plan that we have here, that we ,have worked on for a long time, is the best way to develop this property and this was done with the cooperation of good architects, planners; we have taken care of all the things that we can take care of prior to this mooting. ';ce .o have some hurdles to Clear after this meeting. The nv i ronmenta l Protection Board is but one of them. But we would ask for favor. •a: i c' ns t duration of this plan. Thank you. Mr. :tears: ; 1r.t get , titan,. ra.. mi,ch, .)e' 11 close the public hearing and have dl`iens irt ,3"t ;' »r,! : iorbers, :Ir. Alfonso: ;r. tr. '►ean: 'Ir. Alfonso: :lr. Alfonso: 1 wis'. , ; :r . ;:orner, "how long has your client owned this property, s. i r Korner: He t a t: i ct to buy it for about a year and a half and he hasp owned it now aPnut eight mo:•.'.,s? •1r. rodriguez: I'd say about a year... :tr. Korner: Lout a year. 'ir. Alfonso: Ile bought it from 'Ir. Delgado? Thank you, sir. 'tr. ,)pan: Alright, any other Board lember? Any other Board McT:t:,,er. Mr. Gort, do you want to ask that gentleman a question? (Mr Gort proceeds to translate, again, for Mr. 'tartines) . I1r. 'tartinez: What was explained to me at the City of rtiaa+i, each unit is put every 6,000 square feet. It had to have 23' up front. and 20' in the setback in the Lack, 10' on each aside and the green areas. In this project that we have in front of us, they do not show the certain setbacks that was specified to ne, or to myself. I wonder if it's possible if you could explain to me where the setbacks are that are re auired by lam,. Mr. .lean; 'aright, '1r. Davin? _.r ;Jove bex 17, 1,75 Item MI t • Mr. ;.iavis: '1r. r'hairman, r;ort, an.! Sir -- a development of this type, a Planned Unit stature, has Nov, flr ibility than individual lets in our r'rriinance. Thorn in hut nnh lot here instead Of 9 lots and the official setbackn rnquirei area 20' for the front of this lot which would be on, I think, it'n 4th Street, (I'm sorry), 3lst Avenue, and 20' at the rear of the project with the required side setbacks of IV on each aside. There in a maximum separation of buildings required of l0', that is to say, a 'minimum' separation required. This project ha4 Penn reviewed by our Depar.t'i nt and the Planning Department and by the huiliing :Department and meets the requirements of the Ordinance. (Mr. (fort translates the above for :!r. Martinez). Mr. Martinez: What I would like to know -- if the project here complier, with all the laws anri has trot all the requirements and all the setbacks, what is the reason that the neighbors are here for then? Mr. .)avis : ise_cause these are the requirements, that the project must meet before it comes into Public Hearing for the conditional use. Mr. Martinez: If we, the neighbors, are opposing this project, then we -- what is the situation here? "•1r. Davis: The Board must make their judgment and decide whether or not to permit this project, baser: upon the inputs they have received from the community, from the± Planning_ nepartnent, and from any other Qeurce of judnrent that they can have. (Mr. ^ort again translates « 1JPPO `T1VE for Ir.. artinez) . Mr. lartincz : Okay, than-; Mr. D...an: Alright. 'ir. .'.ilverr'3n, NO you want a question? to` ash.. ii Mr. Silverman: :o, I don't want to. I'm ready to go ahead. 'Ir. Dean: Well, let's see what she... Mrs. )rr: Uh, mai I explain a little about what I said about I thought it was a bad niece of nlannira , . ^,s you can see here, there's 31st .Avenue rroing north -- it does not go through to 4th Street. 31st Avenue cieadends at the entrance to Mirta Gardens and there's no passage for people to get through to 4th Street unless they go aro. by ;th Street and then down 32nd Avenue. Now that is going to make a wor.a bottleneck than there already is. You know I don't know whether it F.4tS mentioned at this meeting, about a neighborhood meeting that I had at my home. We had about 16 of the people present and with Mrr. Rodriquez, the owner. We had a very affable meeting and we ail spoke our minds, and as a result of that, that petition that :sir. Davis has on file with about, I think, 5') signatures -- saying that we would approve of 4 'ouses, but 9 was definitely more than we would like to sou Lhcre. .hank you. Mr. 'Jean: Alright. Any other discussion among Board Members? Alright, being none, Chair is ready for a motion. 'Ir. Silverman: I'd like to make a statement. Mr. treans 'ir. Silverman? :1r. Silverman: 'dr. Chairman, the objection that I have to this project is that there's no turn -around. The way this is set up now, you would have to baci; into .* narking space, and if all the parking spaces .7. N. embi3r 17, 1975 Item 1t were completp(I, you would have to back all the way mut, A1meAt A whole city block. Thi •. O';•opert.y has :)(?en bef -rthi ; aoari on •Ianv ncca' ions. 3ostly tht' implicit -Its, at those times, wanted apartments. This is, by far, the best application that we've had. I, personally, would be in fever of the application if it were amended to eliminate one unit and to provide for ra cul-pie-sac or a way of turning around. If you could cut out #9 and matte 8 units out of it, I, personally, would be in favor of the application. I couldn't vote in favor of it the way it is new. Just as -- I think I said that when the application came up for 10 units a year or two lee, I was opposed at that time. I felt that was too many units, :it,t if the ,nplicant revises their plans so that there was a turn-aroun1 ,and by having 8 units, the units wouldn't be an close together, t' he in favor of it. stated? 'Zr. zr.: Alright, lip, you hear what mr. silvnrnan just :r. i;nrner : Yes. tie can provide a turn-arnunri on the property. We ,are r~ari-irc: to the: figure of 9 units that we'll he spending $11,666 just for the :Dater main. The other costs of development and the other cw-t^ of land acquisition makes it necessary to have the 9 units. We can accommodate a turn --around on the property with a cul-de- sac -- that can be clone. We will rearrange some of the parking in order to do it. We have asked the architect to consider that and he's assured us that it can be done and we would appreciate it being approved with that condition, that there be .3 cul-de-sac at the end of the driveway. "Ir. '}Ewan: 0'ca7, then your state::lent iostopd 1 1 Yf 49? lr. :tomes: 'That's correct. DOCUMENTS 'tr . ,n,,n : -k ay.FOLo err 'tr s. ,li1lis: t.i.at I way- going to say, sir --- i t y have a 15( cul-de-sac there, without eliminating the #n, then it would eliminate some of the trees anri some of the environmental things that they were intending to keep because they can't have both you see. That was one of the things that we were comolaininq about at the meeting, was that, you know, -- they kept talking about money and we kept talking about trees, you know, foliage in t : ings like that, that people have to have to survive. `tr. :lean: Okay, I thank you. Alright, the 0:hair is ready for a motion. Alright, Mr. Silverman? 'Ir. rd Iverman: Ir. ('hz irman, in view of my prior comments, I will move to deny. 'sr. Dean: Alright, you've hcari the motion by Ir. Silverman to move for denial. In there a second? Alright, seconded by Mrs, Baro. Other discussion? There being none, call the roll. '+r )avi:;: The motion in to deny. Mr. cilvorman offered the following motion, seconded by Mrs. 1>iaro, which failed to pass by the following vote: YLE : ,icssrs . rilverman, Dean. :4rne. I3aro. hAY.ti: Messri. Alfonso*, Gort, Johnson. lime. nasil4 :le. :1•^:vis : The vote f ai is, we must have another motion. (*''!r. Alfonso's comment during voting is on the following page.) :':ovombat 17, 1t7S item 11 f *'1t . A 1 I0ti ;o: I vnt.#• no. 1 think t.h i : i q t,rn )r±rt I've Shen in five ycnrn on thin p.irtieul.ar piece of property. They hew, the right to rIr,vrlop thin, rronr_±rty and since the Planned Unit bevelopment is one of the major efforts of the City or to I,rin►t all the developers fa:ether with the City Planners to have a better plan that's the reason why I vote 'no'. Mr. Alfonso: specifications of the can make a cul-de-sac this application. t am ready to vote, to approve, subject to the Planning Department and reconsider its if they part of the plans, I'm going to vote in favor of Mr. :i i lverman : tr. Chairman? '•1r. :Joan: Just a moment, let me got Mr. nlfonso's motion correct, note. :Ir. . Alfonso: I'm going to move to recommend, subject to the specifications of the Pianninn Department and if he can provide a cul-de-sac, thi- is okay with thr Planning Department, then I will go for that -- :)eauti fug Mr. sort: 'tr. Chairman, lot me ask you a question. Could you read, because it was not rearl before, the recommendation from the Planning Deoirtment? Ir. : oan: Alright, '1r. Ar. Davin: 'Ir. '. hinple Mr. JPin: '1r. recornmendatinn over again? Davis? is '.sere, perhaps he could read it.' Whinnle , would you read your ir. ;vhipple: We recornrneended a:4proval, subject to a detailed landscape plan. The applicant hag rep.►ie0 the plans according to the Planning Department's recommendations in view of public premiums afforded the community in the form of ample open space, tree preservation, ample number of parking spaces, provision of recreational facilities, extensive landscaping of site and recreati;.naL facilities, residential home ownership. Actually, the condition is subject to the detailed landscaping plan. Mr. Dean: Alright. :low you've heard Mr. :rlfonso's motion. seconded by ::ev. . Johnson. Now, under discussion, is there any f t: - . r discussion? ' it. Silverman: Yes. Mr. Dr.apt; Alright, 'tr. Silverman? :;ilv-rman: I want to clarify the motion. Is the motion to "rant, -' ' ;rot to an amended plan showing a cul-de-sac? Mr. Alfonso: This is possible, and if the Department agrees with that, I will qo for that. I prefer that. If not, leave it the way it is. 'tr. silv& rman: well, I want to know what I'm voting on. +tr. Alfonso: well, I'm asking the Department, is it possible to make a cul-de-sac? 'r. Whipple? 4r. Jeans alright, Mr. Whipple? le it possible to have a cul-de-sac an .tr. Alfonso stated? I think earlier the attorney for the applicant stated that they would be willing to have a cul-de-sae... -g- November 17, Ms Item +1i 'ir. Whinple: t would only have two eommentg to make. I would have to yield to the architect with respect to the ability to aecuspliah the cul-de-sac with the 9 units and if they cnnsent to that, 1 would only have try go Along. i would only like to comment further that, with all due respect to Mr. 5ilverman's plan, parking standards, if there in a 21' hackout isle, in other words if a car can hack out of a space or has 23' to back out of a space, -- that is sufficient area by which to make the turn and go out in a forward direction. In other words, he would not have to back down the perimeter of the highway, he would simply back straight out for the 23' and be able to make his turn and make a head - out exit. So, As far as the merits and demerits, 1 would gay that the standards that they've adhered to which are City standards of 23' back - out are sufficient and if they gay they can accommodate the cul-de-sac, then, fine, I guess we would have no objections to that. mr. Mean: Alright, lr. Silverman? '.yid that clear it up? Ir. :>i1verman: well, I'm not clear about the motion. Mr.. Alfonso: Well, I'm crnincx to, to... Ar. :;ilverman: Excuse me, in the motion with or without a cul-de-sac? Ir. i)ean: Alright now, Mr. Alfonso will nor clarify his motion and make it 'perfectly clear'. Ar. Alfonso: 'ikay. If the cul-de-sac is (mina to sacrifice a tree, I 7refer not to have the cul-de-sac. You understand what 1 mean? If in ;teed of havinn the cul-rie-sac I can save a tree where they're goin'x to have the cul-de-sac, I would not prefer --I don't want the cul-de-sac. I would prefer the way it is. Is it going to remove any trees if you make the cul-de-sac? 'sr. Rodriguez: We don't know yet. we have 50' of backup for cars over there, almost 50' which is enoucrh. But if we have to make a cul-de-sac, we'll be glad to. ;e' 11 try to preserve the trees. zir. Alfonso: Okay. Let's put that as part the cul-de-sac. :sir. .)ean: Without moving any trees? :tr. .Alfonso: well, if they have to remove of 'SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENT3 Lt.... FOLLOW" lr. ':ort: It has to go in front of the Environmental Board anya v, they have to be able to be anorovocl by them. Mr. Alfonso: Right. 'ir. Dean: Alright, you've got it subject to all these recommendations by Staff, including the cul-de-sac? 'tr. Itltonno: Yes sir. :ir. :)can: Okay. Alright, do you still second it, (Rity. Johnson)? tr. .)avis: Who was the second, '4r. Chairman? lr. Jt.an: zev. Johnson seconded the motion. ' tr . 5 i lvernan: Let see just say, I'm going to vote against the motion anyway because I'm against the project with the 9 units, but Lot me further say that I think this Hoard should have a revised plans if the -10- r 17. 1975 Item 411 mAlnrity of t t►►' 14ri,yrtl i'i qrtin+t to ,11r1►rt)Vr t►rrt jr►'i with A t•Ui •rlo•-q4C, t think wt. t111r►si 1A het,,t. •1 tr,,,1.1,1,1 pl Ah 't+► t h it t #tt tp i t►n qur„it itln ,i' to whetIu,r we' tr, rut.t i tt't l►fit 1'rot`"i or wh.':t. wo' t't+ Mr. Alfonso: That's not ,art of m7 motion. 1 ;►,-tlt, ny motion clear and I hav,, ,% second, andlet's go! "ir. uc,in: Alright, you have the second. Any further discussion? Alright, there being none... Mr. !Lavin: As I understand the motion, 'Ir. Chairman, it is to grant, autiect to providing a cul-de-sac and subject to approval of the landscapinw plans by the Planning hr_partment. Mr. Alfonso: That's correct, that's correct. Mr. ,)avis: Alright. Thirty-one objections were received in the mail. Mr. Alfonso offered the following resolution and moved its adoption: ntsoi.uTton no. zn-158-75 RESOLUTION TO GRANT CONDITIONAL USE AS LISTED IN OR:)I:JA:JCE 6871, ARTICLE V, SECTION 1 (6) (h) , SUILINCT TO PROVIDItI(; A CUL-DE-SAC, S APPROVAL or LANDSCAPE PLANS BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF A RESIDENTIAL DCVEL01141:NT OF A PLANNED UNIT NATURE ON 100' X 6 50' TRACT or LAND BETWEEN S. W. 4 TIi STREET & 5Tit STREET, WEST OF 3IST AVENUE, TENTATIVE PLAT 0850, :1I ItTA GARDENS, BEING APPROXI'4ATELY 426 S. W. 3IST AVENUE, CONSISTING OF 9 SI^7GLE FAMILY '2ESIDENT1AL UNITS I'4 9 STRUCTURES, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH PLANS ON FILE; ZONED R-1 (©NE-FA'IILY) . Upon being seconded by Reverend Johnson, this resolution was passed and Adopted by the following vote: AYES: Messrs. Alfonso, Gott, Johnson. :4zne. Basila. NAYS: 'Messrs. Silverman, Dean.* Mme. Darn. •a c. f• t j' • • ' s t.. , f,..j l?f ttr. Davis: The resolution is granted. 4 - 3. '1r. Rodriquez: Thank you very much. Mr. Jean: Alright, thank you. *Par. dean: (Comment during voting) I still say you move one. -11- November 17, 1)7S Item #1 e i 6. .\PT'it)XI3A1.Y 426 1 tract of l.9n.1 And 5th Street west of 31<: 4850 - ":4I :iTA ;RDLN17. " '!enditional Use AS listed Section 1(6)(h), to permit_ development of a Planned L- single family residential accordance with plans on c f'iar! r?n • • 4•. .'• t nu' in '.).- d1.nanr..c 6371, .'..i,R. con •,truction of n ro:lidc:ttial - .tture consi ;tinn of 1 snit in 9 :structures, all in tint 'one- -1 tone rAmil.•1. :1r. Joan: 1'nr the records, 1r will be sittirict in due to 'tr. '.1fonso walking out or th' meetina. Secretary filed proof of Publication of Lectal :+otice of ?ie.irinq, ,and administered oath to all persons testif"ing at this hearing. PLAi1Nr DErt►RT i. ;T tECO:4:1::yD;1''2;7:I: "APPROVAL, SU13J!'CT TO s t to Ld , . l: r►* The applicant has revispd the 'd ans accerr;inrt with the Planning :Department recommendations. In view of p'zb1 c Premiums afforded the eor.►munit • in the form of: ample open s sac tree preservation or relocated) apple number o requirement. provision of recreational hcilitios ground and n ,creat. z nn arc) extensive landscapine of itn and r-creation facilities residential home owners"t;i ' (average unit size 1500 square feet) The Department recommends .ranting the-:lottditicinail l' ' -to permit a Planned Unit :.ature. MI Oil Mb Air 4E1 OW (all ,)ar..: t'xlstinct trees retaine -.tacos z.. :1r. Dean: Alright, :Ir. 1,;hippl' -^rs of the D en 1 , :.)1 ' ►.. �r- VIZ ! Mr. Whipple: Ladies an0 aentl'-men, the. Departmenthas recommended approval of this develonne+nt. As indicated by the petition,by our recommendation, this is a development of a Planned Unit Nature. This is a provision by which single family development on a large tract, without the necessity of platting into lots, streets and items of that nature; is allowed to be developed in accord with certain plans. We have evaluated the plans of the applicant, we find that their submission for these 9 units provides ample open space, preserves the trees on the site to a large degree, provides an ample number of harking spaces in excess of what the normal requirements would be for the 9 units, provides recreational facilities, provides extensive landscaping and is a residential hones -ownership, with the units ranging in the area of 1501 sq. ft. For these reasons, we have recommended approval of this Planned Unit Nature development. "4r. Dean; Alright sir, you've heard 4r. Whipple'+s... nr. Korner: v.y name is :to:pert Korner, I'm an attorney representing the owner. I have with me the owner and also the architect who has developed this plan. The plan is a solution to a rather unusual piece of property that has troubled this area for many, many years. Under :t-1, a Planned Unit development would hermit a total of 1 unit for each 601I sq. ft. of -26- Septai er 22, 107S Item 46 lot area. WI have actually provided 1 fewer unit than the ux irnu: ie permitted and we're providing 6,81f sq. ft. ner unit. ;he price range for the units that are beina • k be in the $ O,011 ranee. This will be for upper middle :I,..s .0eein-:. tt is the type of development that 1r compatible with e:.; et ne develop- ment and also it's something that there's a trernendeur need !'or in the community. There will be securit•; `e: :.,._, t.C'veloo'.".ent, that i to sae, the development will be fencers in, oz plr will not be alto ed to cut across it, it will have a traffic nato at the front that will -:ive maximum security and still be attrict1.'r in riesirn and exrc ion. The parkine areas :)rnvidu:i more than the rlini:. ut, required and will be of a dress -paving typo, that 1:.3, where they u30 A concrete block that will allow the grass to err;e through it, will be very attractive, will add to the green lrcc that would otherwise :.e craving. The recomrn(ndatzon of eo'.r Staff nentions t':at there does exist in this plan ample open space. :Also, we have taken the trees .'.at are there and preserved as Many trees ae possible riri'it y:c '1ry arc. The desirable trees that couldn't i.,.o prr':iezv .i there are going to be nove4 and relocated to other maces on the property and we have a plan to show that -- you can see free this elan that the landscaping will be nret ,'..,red `'ul lene nt physically possible and that the buildings themselves will be well landscaped loth by the existing planting and by the ad.'lition,' I would also like to ,how you the other ,i n of: this which basically shows the location of the proposed buildings it relatione' to other buildings in the area. You will notice that the new b ii ldinns will be further away from any existing buildings than the present neighboring baildinr is from each existing building. Takincr any building on the sketch, you will see that any building has closer neighbors on either side than they will have in the distance between the proposed building and it. The recreational area, the parking area, the entire, project was developed in conjunction with the Staff. We made many changes in order to accommodate what they considered to be a better way to handle something. We appreciate their advice because we feel we've come up with the best possible project both for the owner and for the neighbors. The proposal is for 9 units, this roans 9 families and we Feel that the proposal is a good use of the property. It is not overly intense, it will correct a situation that, if I lived in this neighborhood with small children, I would be deenly concerned abot:t and that is a large, overgrown area that could lead to all sorts of disastrous results -- derelicts, child molestation, etc. 'le Feel that the problem that exists here will be properly corrected and Permanently corrected by the useful and proper cievelonr+ent of the ;property as planned. Now, both the owner and the architect are here to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. :tr. Oean: Alright, thank yeu Mr. (ort; Mr. ,!::.airman? '!r. Dean: Yes sir? " '''"SUPPORTIVE DOCU M ENTS FOLLOW" .4110 -27- September 22, 1973 Item # Mr. Cott: I'd like to ask thy‘ .ip.)licant a ttaestion. yOu, by any chance, try to ';how the el ,- le that you have to t.hr neictht'ore? t:orner: There was ,n ! !' :t sang t7, try some Of the neighbors. :►1.1 the neiqhl,r,r:; wore not contacted. ,ono. were and some of those that were crmt•tr'r'd waivri any objec,_ion and signed that they wanted it approv,e . Mr. Dean: Alright sir. .,11 'close in opposition wishine to speak, would you please step forwar i to this ;hike? lrn. Willis: 'ty name is “l lrr to Willie env 1 live nt 431 S. W. 31st Avenue. My property directl , abuts the property in queetion. It's the double lot on the cu1-c:c-.,...c, 155 X i think 14n. Mr. Gort: It's the corner lot. irs. Willis: 1lrinht, firet n` a11, this nronosal came up in 1972 stating that the owner wis ,d te build 10 single family dwellings. It wa3 denied by the Planninq Board he4zausc of the over. - abundance of traffic that :could occur (Ile to the number of horses. That was ono of the reasons. The owner was asked to build homes within the space avai..e... in order to create a balance between the living space and the buildings. One leas house does not seem to The neighborhood does not warrant $50,111 homes which, because of this, would encourage double family occupanc• . hlso, this man claims that there would be more since between buildings than the present buildings that are in this neir'tborhood. However, there is a street between these houses which crates some privacy. There would be no street between the houses that !it proposes, you know, in a normal setting bcc a.:se eeu see it's a lan'1-locked Property. Therefore, it really would be more congested --- there would be less breathing space, psychological breathing space, than what we have now. Some neiahbors were contacted about this but they were tole and the People, of course, believed it -- many people did that were contacted -- that it would be all relatives living in these 'souses, relatives of the owner of this oroperv.• which I really doubt very strongly. So, many of the people sent in the letters, you know, stating that they agree because as lone as the.: were relatives, they would take care of the property. Okay, one particular neighbor of ours claimed that he wanted to build a house on his property and was turned down because there is no adequate sewage system in this area. We all have septic tanks. This may cause all sorts of problems. Now in 1965, I don't think I have to tell the Planning Board, that Mayor Sigh and the City Commission inspected this area and reported that it was too shall for 5 single dwellings but that it could accommodate 4, 4 single dwelling:;. The property lines have not changed since that time. I think I ca:4 safely say that my neighbors and I are most concerned about the influx of traffic in this area. A3 you well know. the property's only outlet fronts a narrow, S-shaped street that is already congested, and -.hat is the cul-de-sac there, -- that opening is a very narrow, one -land -- it's only one -lane, one car. ears must practically come to a halt before proceeding around this '5'. What can it possibly be like with a minimum of 14 more cars? That's assuming each family has two cars which is a proper assumption. Secondly, any friends that visit cannot be accommodated and will have to spill over in front of neighboring houses, namely mine. Also, the ne ,�Oil that scull children living in Mirta f! . -26. September 22, 1975 Item M6 gardens would cut threurh the adjacent nronerties becaAie, , it is a land -locked area and would create all kinds of inv,asionr ^f privacy due to this problem. Now, he claimed that a fenr.e would ':c but up, -.owes no child is goinc to walk all the way down to the narrow outlet. to walk all the way back un the street to the s �hool. It would be ii':e walking two blocks when he could eani y cu;across someone's back yard. The people in our community are not unrealistic cnolah to think that we can keep this property in the lovely, natural state in which it now exists but we elan feel our own rights would he 1eopardited by over -building in an already heavily aopulateci area. Please don't allow '!iami to ma':e the same mistake ':ew York City made, that is, to build without the consent and consideration of the existing neighborhood's attitudes. Thank you very much. 'ir. Dean: Alright, thank .ou •!ery much. Mrs. Orr: I'm Jeanette Orr, 2 reside at 31E^. S. w. /th '-ty property abuts `Arta gardens on the north. I've seen the plans for this new proposal. ,'hey arc very attractive plans on paper, so, on Saturday afternoon, I went to check it out. I entered at, where the e, ' -sec i1st Avenue where the entrance -- there's only one entrance and the same entrance would also be the exit. So, I entered there ,and I was amazed a'k. the large number of hucte trees with trunks two feet across, stand.'..vn only a few feet apart. There were just hundre:'.s of these large, native Florida trees. I don't know how they could barely make a road in there let alone build houses. Some of them are 60 to 7') feet high and 1 cannot feature how any of those could be relocated. Then I looked over to where the houses are to he built on the nouthside and there's a solid stand of huge trees there and I to not believe there is a way any of those trees could :ace saved or relocated. I would think 75 to 80% would have to go. I thought the Environmental Protection Plan was to save all large, natural Florida trees on this tract. Street. I understand, however, before this plan can be completely approved, they will have to go before the Environmental Preservation Review Board for its okay in cutting any of these large trees. netting back to the entrance, the underbrush on the right- hand side where the playground is sunpored to be is over 1') feet high besides the large trees that are there. But to build 9 houses in an area, 550' lona -- that would be the wide side, that is, from 32nd Avenue to where it widens out to -- that's 100' wide then it narrows to 75' further back. 515' to build 9 houses. I understand the houses are only set back about 10' from the rear and the houses are but 10' apart according to the plan I saw in the Planning Depart- ment office, not, as this gentleman Raid, 'there would be a lot of breathing room'. There are no sowers available in this area and there's none in the years to come as far as we know -- we've had no mention of it as jet. This plan would be a drain on our electric and add to our pollution problems since we all have septic tanks. The houses to 1e built would take up almost half of the total area according to the plans I saw and the balance is to be used for a road -- not a paved road or a gravel road I understand -- ar.i parking: Parking for only 1R cars, allowing only 2 ter family when at least 3 or more would be mere logical. What about the visitor's lar*t USUPPO RT1r� D0CtJI.FNFTS F. September 22, 1175 Its 416 t+ow the road, it goes in, out :nw do cars turn around? Look at the congestion when everyone 00 2s to work at a:,nroxim•itely the same time every morning. 1:verybr,d has to 'pack iD'2 place, they go in and then face in to ;Ile parking area and 'AC ,i;.t in some sort of a way, I don't know ;low they're doing to na!,age it. Well how is garbaee rcinr• to ,,o collected and trash? :.o large truck could get in on the grass mad. What about a fire. truck? If over it managed to get in, the+ exit • could be completely `.docked. Who would maintain the pool and the playground? ''x, heel is a daily job, I know, 1 have one. The last time a hearing ca:i u) on :tirt.i Gardens w, November the loth, 1972, for 10 sinr;ie ani1y units. The Planning Board's recommendation was for c.enial's, nce considerable lot area is proposed to be utilized or ingress and egress, there should be a reduction in the number of houses, etc. And asking for more usable open space, present plan 1ez../en ',ract:ically no open snare except at each end.' This land -locked piece of :property has limited use. ze owner should have considered thi3 when Le purchased it. Thank you.. :4r. Dean: Alright, thank you very :':rh. Ye5 sir, come right on up. Your name and address"' Mr. Martin: .:icardo Martin, 451 S. w. ?2nd %venue, Lot 27. tlr. Dean: Yes sir? Mr. `Martin: Is it possible to have a translator? '!r. Dean: okay, ' Ir. :,ort? Mr. Gort: I thought Mrs. ,Barn vas the interpretor. Mr. Dean: Well, for tonight, w.a'1t try to switch it. ror the ladies, it was the other night, but we're giving it to you tonight. Mr. Gort: Thank you sir. Mr. Martin: ('ts interpreted '.y :4r. Gort) '4y position to the 9 units being built, is because the jack of my house is goin/ to face the 9 units. I believe this is too small a land parcel to build the 9 homes as it is my understanding that you require more land in order to build homes. If we have Ordinances enough tolay, how can we allow such a small piece of land to have 9 homes on it? Pollution has ordinances also and other regulations are in existence, why is the reason that they're going to build 9 units in hero? First of all, you're taking away the privacy of the people who already live there. Today, we have the existing problem now of parking in the area and similar problems. \t night when these cars cone into these homes, the lights and noise could bother us. For these reasons, I am opposed to thin application. Thank you. :dr. (opt: :11ri0t, does anyone else wish to sneak in opposition? Alright, we'll go back to y'u for A few minutes rebuttal. Mr. Korner: : first of all, I'd ike for ':r. ^Maul *:c(:riqucz to answer the question with regard to why, these people, who are going to buy the property, are. :•lr . Rodriguez 30- Septerber 22, 197S Item 06 tir. :iodriquez : "";• n.a e it Raul Roririouen , r v allrrss t , 1312S Alexandria. Whoever told this young lady that it' n ' ft r. ilia.;' ding to be living there, they told her right. ctua11.', I n , i .pin to build my own home over thrr.*-. ;'e aro 7 brothers and sif. 2r ; gin,:3 that was the reason we bough,: the property in ;:l.e first place, so, we, the whole family, could live :7,iet er, and still have soar kind of privacy. You can SOP that we r)14nred a swimming nonl and re,:;'ofti0na1 area for our kids. We've been working on ,.his :met of 7l.lnr co:. ).inst a year♦ We Supplied about 15 di f . t,ront sets for the City, c..leek on which one would be more appropriate 4or what neighborhoo ' . I believe this •Si11 he an improvenent to the neigh):nr'iond. Thank you. finished? 'ir. Dean: Alright, thank ;o:i verb; r :.-:h You're nr-'t Mr. horner : '+o.. . Mr. Dean: Are we finisher: with the objector,? 'Aright, now we're on rebuttal. 'Ir. Korner: I would like to point out that the rrovious plans were inaporopriate for this site, and that' tho _-r aG.'r we developed the plan that would be appropriate :or t::e lit. The itlea with 9 units, we're going to have 18 families is inconsistent with the fact that the buildings will be designed for si.n' 1e fani iy occupancy; you have adequate enforcement pooplt_ to determine -chat there won't be an over -crowding of the units and I feel that to say there's going to be more than 1 families is inaccurate. Also, this natural, lovely state of this property is t:ind of a matter of opinion. Most people would call it badl•, 'v2r7rown and somewhat hazardous. Now I kind of agree with the lady -- l ikc things that are badly overgrown and somewhat hazardous, but not in the middle of the City, a block away from a school. I know that fences don't always keep children where they belong but I think it's the only mechanical way that we can protect ourselves and the adjoining property owners and the fence will he nut in -- if there are any violations of it, it's trespassing and 1 would assume that it would be handled on that basis. The lovely, large trees in there are beautiful trees on this property. Every effort conceivable has been rtu&.. to preserve those trees and this is born out by your Staff's comments and your Staff's recommendations. Those trees were each surveyed and located and the design was developed with that in mini. ow some of the trees are of types that are not desirable and there were not preserved to the same extent that the more desirable varieties were. We do have parking for visitors cars in the front, there will be a way for visitors cars to come ')ack after they are admitted through the Sate. There is a parking pr)blem in this neighborhood and it's largely because the existing bu Lldings were built at a time when parking wan required at 1 narking sNace per unit rather than 2. We feel that our project will not add to the perking problem but will, rather, take care of all the cars necessary for it on the property with no problem. The roadway will accom iodate trucks, it's designed for that purpose and there's no problem •:here. I believe :ir. Rodriguez has ol: a rty answered the (7i4estion &gout pool maintenance and the mairtaram•e of the common areas. "SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENTS -3.- September 22, 1975 item 46 Fl% ...,.),� • • or