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HomeMy WebLinkAboutR-75-117210 13 14 1S 16 17 lA 19 20 21 22 23 34 2S 2s 27 20 29 30 31 32 33 34 36 73 RESOLUTION NO, S4172 A RESOLUTION , - THE GRANT USE" AS PROVIDED.. SECTION 1 (6) (j), BUILDING .AS PER PLANS RESIDENTIAL,IN APPEA USED FOR DAY'NbRO LOTS 15, 16 AND 174,'' LOCATED AT 3060 ORANGE FOLLOWING LIMITATIONS AND CoNDITt MI:NT OP NO t?0RE THAN 50 STUDENTS; OP "CONDITIONAL 6871, ARTICLE V, ON OF DING BEING TO BE ONLY, ON B (3-34). ' To THE ROLL- (2) PROVISION FOR STUDENT BUS TRANSPORTATION; (-3�_i_ �RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS TO ORANGE STREET I'I` �°`h�3!IT q4', `1 BJECT PROPERTY To BE. COMPLETED AT THE SOLE EXPE:NS. `O'P THE APPLICANT AND AT NO COST TO THE CITY or MIAMI; .1(4) RESTRICTI".G• !EE HOURS OrmeMOWAXION FROM 7:30 AM TO 6 PM MONDAY TiniOUGH FRIbAtlAe60 PROVIDING THAT THERE SHALL Sty NO NIGHT MEETINGS) ; ? BRING A 1" ice' WIRY WALL TO INSULATE SOUNDON REAR; (66)�OVIDING 8 PARKING SPACES AND RESERVt AREA FOR 2 FUTURE PARKING SPACES; (7) PROVIDING THAT PREFERENCE FOR ENROLLMENT BE GIVEN TO CITY OF MIAMI RESIDENTS AND THAT NO LESS THAN 50* OF THE STUDENTS ENROLLED SHALL BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; (8) SAID CONDITIONAL LSE TO AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATE'. UPON EITHER THE USE OF SAID PROPERTY FOR OTHER THAN A MONTESSORI SCHOOL THE SALE OF SAID PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT, RESE:Al .'H ASSOCIATES INC.; (9) SITE PLAN APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT; ZONED R-2 (TWO FAMILY) DISTRICT. WHEREAS, the Miami Zoning Board, at its meeting of September 8th, 1975, Item No. 5, following an advertised hearing adopted Resolution No. ZB 103-75 by a 7 to 0 vote granting a "Conditional Use" as provided by Ordinance No. 6871, Article V, Section 1 (6) (j) ; and WHEREAS, the neighboring objectors have taken an appeal from the decision of the Zoning iEx ITCM NO. WHEREAS, the Commission after due deliberation and careful consideration of this matter has determined that the use as hereinafter set forth will not be detrimental or injurious to the character of the development of the immediate neighborhoods WOW, THEREFORE, SE IT RESOLVED SY THE COMM/SEION 4F THE CITY OF MIJINI, FLORIDA: Commission: and "SUPP"^"Tic • •. 9 1 14 1' It b 19 20 21 22 23 34 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 33 33 34 36 341 • Section 1. The grant of "Conditional Use" as provided in Ordinance No. 6171, Article V, Section 1 (6)(M1 _... to permit construction of building as per plans on file, said buildin t>�•,n dcntial in a and character, to be used for ua, `.,:r > r, and first grade only, on Lots 15, 1 .17, ()RANG) ;ulnae; t+ (3-34) , located at 3060 Orange Street, iowi ;imitations and conditionst r L i s t t (4) fit no more than 50 students; t cr student bus transportation; . 8y . Improvements to Orange Street abject property to be completed xpense of the applicant and at city of Miami; -es and ruaF 11otrea r'>R" ws 106 (7) i' rov l d i ne that preference for enrollment be liven to City of Miami residents and that no 1`ss than 50% of the students enrolled shall be residents of the City of Miami; (8) Said conditional usAlet automatically terminate upon either the use of said property for other than a Montessori School or the sale of said property by the applicant, Research Assoc tes4..Isicr7 (9) ictinq hours of operation from 700 AM 6 PM Mon.3a, *.!rough Friday (also providing ,-re shall ii( :,u night meetings) ; ;iui Ping a 6-foe.t is rir,; wall to insulate .nt.i on sides r; . r. ,r : 4 Site plan approval by the Plans jig Department. Zoned R-2 (Two Family) District, be and the same is hereby sfti 'MASS.... AND ,ADOPTED his 19 d ""'"e"', 1975. • ATTESTS H. O. Southern CITY CLERK PREPARED AND APPROVED BYs )IICNIL Q. MaRii ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY Maurice A. Ferre APPROVED, A8 TO PORN AN? CORRECTNESS* '. S. LW ATTORNEY MAYOR 010 fib • •11 4.0 44 The Honorable Members of the November 18, 197S City Commission Resolution granting permission for construction of private school on Orange Street,' • John S. LloY;A City Attor,orfl ---...11411WAttacheA fo! is A draft copy of the Resolution as descr:b. 1:,ove. This Resolution was prepared • in accord:i- t the wishes of th C'omm issi on after reVivw1:. the minutts of the Commission m.Atin.: at which this item discussed. • app •,:fo I U 1,! 1 (...) determi T r ,• t you irt t,t . t. z ,ist• a 1 • I • City f • • : .ww...464144000.10_ 0%6 ,1140141111404%.404 4FIfte. ariba • , • , •• • '11:1 1 .-()" • • • • : r' 3. •& 17 , •-tt t "c. 11( • -` CITY CNOMSSION MELTING Of NOV 2 4 19/5 I 11110Walltrrart1 mempae. 10.010111r. A 1 (. • • + •,* T.• : ): (1)7,r.:(1, 2 of 2) ,,1 'Zuni n, 1 ^? • or CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF O C T 91975 1 S. ale rift ITIT ORANGE POUND SUB (3-34 ) Conditional Use as listed in rrdinanco 6671, ARTICLE V, Section l (6) (1) , to permit construction of building, as per plans on film, to be used for Day Nursery on above site; Zoned R•2 (wo racily). Secretary filed proof of publication of Legal Notice of Hearing, and administered oath to all persons testifying at this hearing. PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECOMM NoATION: "APPROVAL BUfJrCT TO -A AkVtb`t`u` nett PLAN AC RO 'nth VTIE YoLl.OWWING 1. Limitation of enrollment to fifty students (50). 2. Provision for student bus transportation. 3. Right-of-way improvements to Orange Street. 4. Restricting hours of operations from 700 AM 6:00 PM, Monday thro'Igh Friday. 5. Provision for masonry walls to insulate sound. 6. Provide eight parkins spaces: reserve area for two future parking spaces. In recognition of area day cars needs and the existence of sct,onl faac:iity at +.hn sub-'ect site for the past 2S years, cunt i:i uar.ce of t.h,' use i i appropriate in accordance with the provision.,_ outlined. (:At this point, Chairman Dean aua.,sec: :'tr. =i!pson tat a t!.•c)-minute '.5raak would be taken) . !Ir. Dean: Alrirrht, Mr. >>ooney? Mr. Dooney: Mr. Chairman, ratter than goini into the complete background in regard to this application for conditional use, I'm going to quickly reiterate our recommendation, that is, the Department's recommendation, ir, conjunction wit:l this request for conditional use. In essence, we feel that there is a need in this particular area c+ coconut Grove for a private day care facility. The need is bane' up.)h recent census information anr'increases in child popula- tion toeother with an r.-rease i3 the number of worl.inq mothers. Howc.ver. in t'u- interest_ of .protecting the sanctity of single fa::a 1 iow nensity 12Vinq a irr. nc:-ts, "e have set Out some con.'j.t ions which wc• :ee: are apn) ice. 1 o in rogard to the Lssue before you tonight, namely the establis±.T.Pn• c• a Montessori School at this location. These conditions am :s : 1:., •s : 1. Limitation of enrollment to Mt' studs nts. 2. Provision for student tau.: transportation. 3. Right-of-way improvements, (and thav is right-of-way improvements abuttin T thc? aizb jest property) on (Mrange Street. 4. Restricting the hours of operations from 7130 in the morning until 6:00 P'4, Mc,nd.ty through Friday. Tne provision f... - !, Use: • • 11, to aid in insul4tinq sound. (. provide eight parking spaces; rtserve area for two future parking spaces. The basis for these conditions ;lave evolved out of studies we have made during the lest year of th* more than 110 private elementary and day care facilities in tie City of Miami. We feel that the site oa which this facility is to to established and has 2 3- I ptMbsr 0. 117S Item OS been estahlished is more than adequate to scoot ♦date the number of students that we have cited in our study. However, best$y, of the right-of-way and the relationships to abutting roeidentT1 property, we fees that some sort of a ceiling should be tied to this particular application and we have established the figure of fifty (50), based upon State ntanderde of 35 so. ft. of interior space, classroom space, that is, tuguth'r with a minimum of 73 sq. ft. of outdoor open space. Based on some of the revisions that we Dave made to the site pien, I have discussed this with the, architects we feel that a revision is in store by which this can be accomplished on site and accomplished in a manner in which it will be acceptable to the community and fulfill a need for this particular community. We recommend you approve it tonight based or, those condi..iens. Mr. Deane Alright, thank you, sir. Alright, please state your name and address for th.n records. Mr. Chopin: I'm Frank Chopin, I'm an attorney, my address is 2000 Soutn Dixie Highway, I'm a member of the firm of 'Chopin and Chopin'. I'd like to live you a little think you really have to know sm. of and if you don't, and if you'll ,»arc it'll give you a better insight as tr we're asking for. bit of the history because I the history of this location, ':'e a few moments, I think why we're herr• and to what On September 27, 1954, almost 21 years ago :o thin date, tee City of Miami Planning and Zoninr Hoard met for the pur• - -e of considerinti an application for . for the u;e and p ....: to use this property as a day care r(nter on the existing facility and grounds, also to allow for the c.c,nstruction of ;n additional building to be used in conjunction wi;:h the premises of the day care center. It was unanimously a proved in 1954 and on November 3, 19a4, it went before the City of r!iar;i Commission and it was also unanimously approved. For the last 21 years, this property has been operated as a day care center. It's not something new -- it's not something new that we're asking for at this time. This was sometling that was approved by the City of Miami for 21 years, and which has been used for purpose intended for the past 21 years. Approximately five years ago, however, threo young 'omen, new -•: ...he Miami area or generally new, all with exceptional educa- tion backgrounds, bought the property. They previously had operated :onteessori School'on Drickell hvenue in conjunction with the Academy of the Assumption. That facility was limited as to space and opportunity for proper education ani eo therefore they spent approximately one year looking both in the City of Aiami and Dade county for adequate facilities. Unfortunately, the coning required for the operation of such a school is normally .i commercial type of zoning and the cost is absolutely prohioitive unless you're going to ouerate the type of school which req :tires such a tremendous number of atadenta that it did not fit in with the educational apprc •fir_-i ,ic, 1. ""' in They found this location. It ret the zoning requirements tat they were looking for. It was in an area which desperately rl.10,:eel Jav care l'acil+ities and c1.1,sperately needed early childhood development activitaur. They :'vrcha o0 the property and they sot out to Guild it into a fine 1' facility and they've been at that task for the last four 'mar, . inf»rtunate'.y, the *'ve been operating out of an existing frame, - i, ale f artily-.:ype of residence -24-Septembur 1, MS Item If, I as well as the u sting building which in to the rear of the property. They found that in keeping with modern educational techniques, they were just simply not going to be able to continua to improve the quality of the education that they sought to instill unless they were able to get new facilities, net for the purpr,se of expanding what they were doing, not for the purir,se of increasing their enrollment and their income, but for the purrose of being able to provide better education to the numbers of children that they were dealing with at this time. of course the cost became a factor and you simply just can't go in andfinanae an institution like this -- you can't go to the bank and you can't go to the Small Business Administration and you can't go to savings and loan associations. Fortunately. a nan who wishes to remain anonymous offered to provide the necessary financing for the construction of a new building. tie offered to make cats in the form of a loan, at very, very low interest rates with no real security for his money. His motivation apparently was to see to it that this area of the Grove had the kind of facilities it didn't have now and that the kids in this area very desperately needed. It still wasn't enough and so they set about to recruit people who could assist them. The first one they recruited was ing on her Master's uegree at the Univer and she agreed, as part of her '".ester's facility, not a xchool but a facility w•;: best in modern architectural thinkinc 3n bast ; n modern educatienfl wha just to be taken care of in the course r needed to learn in the best of all possi this with the Staff of the Uhivor::ity of sr c sui;Tittc±d it as her thesis , models and going through a numLt r of tes thought -provoking programs, to uet ir]oa:= community, some preliminary plans were year, they were submitted to the :ity o: that time, in a meeting with the various 'tiani, certain recommendations, certain changes were incorporated in the "glans, submitted in approximately mid -July. a young lady who was work- sity of Miami in architecture thesis. she would design a ich incorporated the very 1 at the same time, the very t th. . children needed -- not f the, day but what they bee :a►ys. `;he worked with Mani School of Arehi..�+rte . 'Fro 'ed, After ccnst ti:. _, ting programs, a number of of other people in the rawn up and in July of this :•:ia.Ai for approval. At agencies of the City of chanqes were suggested. These and the plans were finally on July 25th, at a number of nesting: with the people in the City of Miami's various agencies, t' a pl ins were approved by all of the Departments anci I'd like to show you these plans so you can actlally see that the signatures of the various people involved have approved these plans as to zoning, es to building, as to plumbing. as to electrical -- in every other way. Let me just •how them if j n 4' 11 take a look at these Wean, , ynu' 11 see that stamps and initials of who signed (as is the custon in the City) -- the plans have been approved by the City of Miami. Also, I'd like to show the City of :iia*i's application for a Build ng remit Corm. and you'll ere that these also, in every instance, zoning, building. plumbing. electrical and every other way approved by tie City of Miami and blase people thought, 'at long last, we've close to the end of the road and we're going to be able: to buil 1 out building'. This was on a Friday, on Friday, July the 25th. Now, they have a day can Progreso that they're operating during r. to stmertime, they have about ten kids firfrixw. ra: a cm,,n4-' undo.•- - leap resent of Health and Rehabilitative Services Program and snef qo to the school, so obviously the hest time to demolish ,in •3xist ing structure was on tote weekend. Be they went in and apnligd fr t the building Permit and were told it couldn't be registered in until Monday but To ahead and tear it down. They demolished the existing structure on July the 2tth. They had the demolition permit. There's bee •n a great deal said about their not having a permit, in fact I've got it if anybody mays up the matter. September Se 1975 IteN 9S On July the 21th, the ?moral Contractor went in to pick up the Permit and instead of simply picking up his Permit, he found that there had been, over the weekend, some opposition that had arisen to the construction of this building, and the City of Miami had made a deeiston, well, in fact contrary to what is shown on the plans in approving this project -- that it shouldn't have been approved in the first place, that is, not without a hearing before this body. and as a consequence, refused to grant this Permit. Well of course, the very obvious problem we have with that is that we've already torn down the existing structure and we can't put it back because it's been torn down ev, and in all honesty, the City has been particularly cooperative since that time -- they arranged for us to be heard at this Nearing which was the earliest possible Ante and have been very delicate in studying this but the fact of the tatter is, is that is, in fact, what we are faced with. The petitioners are requesting v1at their application for a variance be approved for a number o' different reasons. First of all, I'd like to point out to you that it's my judgment that the existing facilities can still be used regardless of what happens tonight with the day care center. It still has the zoning variance which was granted in 1934, it still has its structure which, although it's in violation of certain building requirements, can be corrected so that it doss operate in accordance with the applicable zoning. We can operate the school -- but that's not what we're here today about. We're here Sadeterrnine today, not whether we're going to operate a school but what kind of a school are we loins to operate and in what kind of a facility are we going to offer to the children of .'ocenut Grove .:nd to Dade County? That's 41. We think, we'd like to th .nl that we can guild the kind of facility t:iat's going to do justice to t..roper educational system, but we're going to operate t:!e 3chool Ir./way and we have the right to opera' the school anyway. i 02, there is a need -- a very desperate need in trig community for early educational training. foi day care. ':r. Joonev pointed this out from census figure:, -- I think you rcall: only have to look around, with the number of increAainc working mothers, the number of children who are in nursery schools, and things of this nature, to know there's a very definite need. Let me offer to you, however, some additional evidence of this fact of the need. Specifically, I'd like to call your attentior to a letter that consignor John W. Marie, the Pastor of St. Peter's Catholic school, wrote to Mayor Forr•, and sent copies tr thiF Hoard as well as copies to the Members of the City Commission, in which he rents out, ..d "Dear Mayor Terre and City Commissioners: As a member of the community of .loconut prove, I'm yell aware • of our need in the community for prr-school and day care facilities. St, Airan's (which is obviously not the institution Monsignor Clorie 4s connected with) alone has a waiting list of sore here around lag applicants. Any facility which is open to pre-school children and meets City and State standards, is r.n asset to the Grove as fir as I am concerned ." He goes on to ask that you give this your consideration. m4"444:There were approximately 5 . c` 4 ers which were sent to you and the Members of the Miami City commis all pointing out the desperate need in the community --- th' nine %tork le have done is. the past and I think as a whc' • , derlonstratia that it's a fine and desperate need in the community. nut I'd like to point out two other letters to you. 'rise" s',ccsnd one is from a Mrs. Anita Walker Aso lives at MI N . W. 1! th Avenue -- now that's a considerable difitance from this particular school, but Mrs. Milker points out that she's a wartime mother, and she's got to send her children som wheal in seder for her •.o be Ole -16- Srq:te ties d, l!75 Item IS 1 Alk 0044,4 to go out and get a job, and do the work that she's wired to do. She also points out that she's an ex -teacher so she'sust not interested in putting her kids whore they► re,going to get some typo of custodial supervision and no form of training. She knows this is the place where she can get not only the proper training and supervision but the prover education that yo'unq children need. Lastly and probably the most demonstrative of the letters that were written came from a woman by the name of Mrs. Rosenbloom who lives at 11918 S. W. 90th Avenue. She says she has three children or two daughters, and this is her third year that "my two daughtera will be attending the school. I have to drive them from S. W. 144th Street and needless to say, I think this is one of the finest pre-schools in Miami 1 don't want to belabor the point but I think what these things point out is 11, the need, and 42, that this particular school is fulfilling that need in an exceptional way. Let me go on.... The school was recently accepted by Dade County who acts as an agent for the State of Florida, Department of Rehabilitative Services, to offer day care and early childhood care for basically needy children, indigent children, unelc,r a Federally -financed program. Later, if your schedule permits, there's going to be a gentleman here who is operating under the Title iv Program, who's going to tell you about the need and what 'lam, and what is and can be done with the ase of tt:e facilities of thi; school Lastly, I'd li%: to -, i*. it',, ,•.y judgment that the inorr vfylent that is icing to be nui 1. , the new building (once we your aprroval - if we get your ,approval) is going to improve the r,r i ,1.r.or`tond an i W: Cie. Now :nr..4' t,c,w• how many of yew 'gar it ia, ': `.i the section of lahl. _riet sc I took eomc +li1.1:Ls, I took t.:7em myself as this ig not a high -budget project, with a polaroid camera and I'd like to ::how them to you. I'd like you to particularly no ;1., there are no settacks on clan;; of these houses either from the side o om-the front grope ine.. SAtt ii;:e you tr- note iha although i ?, you'll likely ary cases gee three �nitg �u a 511lot. not conInnni na t i'r. :got . ett in , involved ,tiitrn it, I'r., just tr: ina to point cut to that t!:iv neigh..orhaod that we came into is not such thu: it's loin* to :,e 34r?taanc•.: .)7 a new and modurn facility, !..at let me shoe these pi^tuna id - ore wr. 0 on "r. 'scan: Just pass ther. arc:o.:n%. starting at the other end Ir. Chopin: :how while these sir', going around. I'd like to cal' ors the architect who is a young lady by the name of Mrs. Dirmina ..1..oca, whose husband is also an architect, and who designed this tacility and ask her just to tell you a little bit about it. It looks absolutely massive in the model because there's nothing to out it into perspective with, but actually, it approximately a 2800 sq. ft. building consisting of offices, I'm sorry, classroom facilities and approximately 400' of offices and other work areas. yr. Deans Alright. Let me ask you -- all of you are in fAior of this application, aren't you, staff? Okay, thank you very much. ::ow, all those oppose 'I iw we :.111tre we've going. Alright. it's going to take a long time to get there, but I hope you can see that we've got both sides and maybe we can sort of consolidate our nl akets and wake it wove along much better. Mr. Chopin: Let me rush, because I'm taking a lot more time than I intended to but I'd like to just touch on for a sswarnt, tbs recommendation of the City of miami. Naturally, we're ab: olutely -27- $e+ptewber d. 1975 item 1S 1 Qstatic about the fact that they rsaw the need and recommended approval of the variance. Nvwever, there are a couple of things that are really going to wort a hardship and as a conaequenc., it's necessary fee me to point theta out. 01, they're requesting ten parking spaces instead of six. 01, at the current Code requirements which are established by the City of Miami's :taster Plan, they only require nix. This has Oecn toil to us be th i City of Miami Building oept. originally, we had proposed four parking spaces. They said no, you need six, for this and this reason, sn we mortified the plans for six. Well, the fact of the natter is, there is just no reason whatsoever to have ten paring ►Aeons. There aren't that many teachers, there aren't that -iany visiting; people. What you're going tc do is to cat into thc? snace that's available for the use ey the children to have an empty narking space which is not going to 'ae for anyuody's use. 'he second thing is, they want eni lment. ::ow ►1r. Dooney, and ; Ion uneorstanlina of what he Said wan that wi• l the state_ rules and requlatons. ▪ Dooney: 'Ir. Chopin. to place a li •citation on our 't moan to miE: 1taote hire, but my t.:l i. w 2g comrested in accordance that right, Mr. nonney? We've: used the statt''s ntandirl as a basis, 'tr♦ Cher in: Well i slip't knot: t: .at t iat :•.0133. 1f : had sail that. they .• - 11 have ss..it; ' T ,; t.31 k I n'T like a 1iwyer'but .. . . ▪ 'OU11C%P : :ytl'? of ,:1.i:nror;'s area. "h;' 11' 1n t';e order of 1700 to L n * r. Chopin: That's : tfl 2n7� . `t so that plans show. 1 agree that te • , • eehahilitative Services have pros 11,'it .guare feet of both interior and cxter ;o along and .: ay "absolutely, th.%. stlot of the nviber of people or chi 1, ..i 1n' t :lean to interrupt anybody. ''r. Dooney; 1:o're of:c_r-• :, .! to r tatfe a decision tonight. The: i the ' 51' figure, however, we feel it too far :.eyond 50 inasmuch as we .'.o Moreover, 1 did have the opportunity to director- of the school about th., matter s66111,wha h.. be considered ar. ideal ,. i the for the S© student enr . an,: {• •.:illina to_ al do .once: ark for the Hoard t.ari ni c Est about nc t .J0 a visaele to go t veral l :ova' with of •prior e r.roi meat i )11nient. 'toreo'r, in conjunction with rr..rkinn, the • .ratifications it calls for. If we wculi relate to fi sure of one parking space for every erg sq. ft.. required to have, perhaps, as many as 12 spaces. W slight redesign of the sits, we can accomplizh a mu taking advantage of probable ppeea'. situet ions, co.•►si 3s children, dispatching of ehillren, tie handling the handling of secretarial staff, the issue's invol of ','r;'nts together with the arrangement, as we un.' re pl _ ter....r.c in r.h-,t•;era from ti:'i# eo time. k mae be considered somewhat of a genu.ou: figure but order, we feel it would be best to be somewhat gene ni -Tgarclly at this time. the♦ limited site area. ine of the erollment together .i the future. So, • :ode has several one, using the 'ou would be t feel. with a better layout ierinq collection )f four instructors, ring consultation :rstand it, of r feel that ten on the sane row than to be 'ir. Chopin: Let me go on then. The fact of the natter is t on the matter of pace and to have -- let me on the packing. Under the new regulation: of the ef Instruction, new Elementary SctiOols, o, you know • what the ratio is, Mr. Dooney? 1 to 23. 1 to 25 is the ratio that Dade County, after study, introduced in its new plan for building Dade County elementary schools. Let me point something else out to you. You say '1 to every 400 sq. ft.' -- that isn't terribly far from what we've proposed because we've said, 'look, we have approximately 2100 mg. of usable classroom space and are pro- posing six parking spaces'. You said we hava approximately 1700 sq. Et. Now, if that's accurate on the one hand, than it should equate ot't that we need 4 and S packing spaces and not 10. I don't want to dwell too much on that but it is going to work ras an obstacle -- this is not a profit -- a particularly profitable school. if ynu place a limita tion on it, you're going to make it impo sibiu for es to operate. You're going to imoope restraints on this school that are not imposed on any other kind of school in Dade county or anywhere else in the State of Florida. You're going to inpoe narking facility requirements on this school that's not imposed anywhere else so it become a .orm of discrimination for these people who want to offer this kind of education okay, I had my say but .)efor' 1 let '!r. Ilea; call u- some other folks, there are a couple o' ee#,T,1,1 that 1',1 like to °a11 and let them say a few words, not for an': cat ter reason .)Lit t think that they're -- their uackeround can spec i f i _a11y offer thi3 Board the kinds of insight for community fuel inn that it needs to have. The f irat of these people is Mr. Wsyne A I len who is representine the Tigertail Civic As3ociatic,n. :' ', .ire ail of you have heard of the Tigertail C: ;►ic Association - - ..1.1tn. 'Ir. Silverman. .sere which concerns the sire of tho people are talking, I would sunewat '::ith the Staff and see if ti A.. a r ne,ca ise they're not even c1'Jse. talking 2800, and that's a sub3tantr there' S --i •z 7Ary ortant issue :,ui 1 jinn , and while all of these that the irrh iter't met rvr r here ' :•.^ 1/r.1 an: al f to nce. 'Ir. Dean: Alright, hav, you let your architect: .!.;re architect come over here with t'.zr. :.taff on the other nid'e, And your problems on ttie vire of fig uilclina. '.lrigh+ sir, state name ant'. address for the recor13. your resolve ;our Mr. Allen: Mr. Chatrr,a'i, me.., 'rs of the Board, my name is wa„ne Allen, I reside at 22:2 n. W. ?2m'. Terrace A I'm rant Presi- dent and a Director of the Tigertail Ci•.•ic Association and I'm here tonight, really, in a personal capacity, but first I'd like to speak to you in the capacity as a Director of the Tigertail Association and read to you a letter, I'm sorry, I'll read you is portion of a letter from 'er. Jacobi who is Vice President of that association and then .''1 pass the letter around. "Gentlemen: I wish to register my concern over the fate of the Montessori School at 34G, Orange Street, Coconut Grove, and state my strong opinion that Permits for the construction of the planned new school be issued Promptly. This school !ias boon a valuable asset to the Coconut Grove Community. At no time car a variegated community such as ours neglect to provide alternative forms of education. In this era of economic depression with the Public School System s.affering under 4udgetary cutbacks, it would - partic'.'. -2y fnoLtsh to allow these schools to go out of existence." (Two more paragraphs, and 1' it pass it around.) I'd like to say. and I'm speaking I wart to make it clear -- i'w speaking as a parent of a student who has attended this sehoo1 but more importantly, i think I'm speaking from ry experiaue* as a person who has bees very active in ^xonut efrove Ind in the Civic r ..29- Sept+ammber •, 1 414 yew Association which I'm sure you all ar aR or. it's really amating to me how thr people in the Brave can come together against something. We All seem to be able to Rio that petty good. When we do somethinq threatening the drove, we're right in there against it. it it seems to he much harder to come together to be for something, and I'm not Sure what is behind that but in try very active association in develoninr the Coconut Grove Planning Study and my attendance before this Board and the Planning Board and the City Commission -- there quite often seems to be something left out of the community, and that's a proncr concern for the young people of the community. Coconut (rove has beautiful parks, but if you stop and think, they really don't have proper facilities for young children. This day school presents to the community the opportunity to go forwi.d which, as Mr. Chopin pointed out, is an activity which has existed for some 31 years. It is an activity which has become more important in 1975 - it's an activity which should continue, it should have an opportunity to expand and, althc1,7h it doesn't appear that there's an expansion here from everythin;; that I know about it, it's really an improvement of what is existing. This is the type of facility tit Coconut trove needs -- it's something that I just find it hard to ')el ieve there could be any opposition about considerinct Uw 1or : tl:ic extended use of this property for day school. I just wanted t t o» luik "Ionent to say that frankly, listening here tonight (it was t.a• `iz:;t tir•. 1'd heart; them), I was rally shocked at the recommendltion Or t'ze ! lortnini Department as to their condiliorts. Now I can r.e rta in i • aqrr e with then mr.' nder- .tams their points and reasons f ;lr tr r_n<• :.r;q t'±r► up but I ... . down before City Boards where great high-rises were going up and all kinds of apartments which, if wP 10r1S any:lhere in the City, there isn't adequate parking, and a sc'.00l '..hicth all the time I've been active in it, I've had :n_ childrori loin- there, I've never seers more than four -- t think at the most, , six teachers and which .'.oein't have any great necessity for a great nurOer of paring spaces -- why they go to ten I just can't frankly understas•.i, an the other expensive items they are trying to impose on they school with its enrollment is really beyond me, and I just urge you on the Teaard to take into consideration the circumstances as to why we're here at all. Frankly, as an attorney, it's beyond me why we're here and I'm sure you must have some questions in your own rin,is wby it' .1 even necessary to be here for this facility which has such long standing in the community and really is a great asset to it. Thark you. Mr. Dean: Alright, thank you very much. Anyone else? rlr. Chopin: Yes, there's one other fellow, one other gentleman that I'd like to call. He's r neighbor of mine. he Lives in Coconut (rove, he's been active in Coconut Grove, he's been active in the City of Miami and Dade County, h(' pres.ntly serves on the Board of Directors of the Coconut Grove Civic lssoeiirion, he's net here to speak specifically on behalf of that association hut to eeaeak for himself -- to tell you what he *1-'nkyc,u folks ought to do. So, I'd like t, introduce tir. Boris Pritc. �t . Mr. Pritcher: hood evenin; 'Ar. chairman, Ladies on i oentle- mem. a want to spool. very personally spout my feelings ebouE 'econut Grove.... First, before you i*art eM, ...00104 sir. Pr/taborer Poi:20es, aor s Pritcher, 3370 Poioeiana AVOWS, -10- 8eptesr #, 1l7S Item IS right neat to Prank Chopin -- we're neighbors, Nis child has just graduated from the school and my child who is 44 years old, goes there now. She's blond and b>eyed and beautiful: wow I Love this sshooi and I love the teachers in the school. we've been talking about buildings here you know, but really what makes the school is the people and I've had an opportunity to be consulted as a parent, brought in by sty wife and they've told me the most wonderful things about my child. She didn't seem to tit any of those patterns at home but she was great in school. But what I liked about the school is that it's really a melting pot -- it's a private school, a Montessori School, but there are Mexican kids there, there are Black children, there are Cubans, there are blond Jewesses (like my kid), there are all kinds and they fight, I'm sure, and they learn how to grow and fight and live together and I don't want to see just S© of them in this lovely little building -- I'd like to see 75 because 75 is what they need to make it economical, to run this building or facility. 50 just doesn't do the trick. In the old building, they had S© or SI. Now they have a building that's almost twice the sine, I think 1500 was the old site, and this is 2900, so they have the facility to handle 75 children and i hope you will make that variance. So, as I say, i came here to speak personally about a school which has done my child -- she's been there for two years -- she's a genius! An absolute genius: (The audience applauses '1r. rritcher's speech) . Mr. Dean: Thank you very much. Mr. Chopin: There are a number of other parents here, a number of other people who know about the school and want to tell you about it. or that live in the Grove or live in Miami -- I'm not going to call on them because I think you probably want to hear some input from these other people. So, I'll let you open it up, Mr. Dean, and I'm sure that they'll not be shy in coining forward to tell you what they wanted to tell you. The other thing I wanted to ask you folks is one thing -- and that's to impose on the objectives the same standards that you would impose on me or the petitioner if we bought our property within the la t year or so. You wouldn't let us create our own hardship, and th q- Attorney, sitting over there would say 'it doesn't moat the si ements for a variance'. I'm going to tell you something -- th ry people that are objecting oday bought their property these people began operating this school. Mow they knew it was when they bought it. Some of them, some of th'n bought as ly as the first of the year. this year. Now, we're not going i ell t+ r single-family hoses, we're not going in and as - ; the character of a neighborhood that they ha asking that you impose on thew the sane s ' 'd impose on us if the situations were very much for your attention. you very much. in: I'm sure you'll give sae a rebuttal... • ...And I '‘ ink that.... !Again audience applause!, for 1r. Chopin). Mr. Owns Alright, those in ©peositionl Mr. Powys My name is oersck M. Savoy, I raids at 3290 Gifford Lane, Coconut Stove. I as the recast owner of 30S'. orange Street which is directly access from the day care center. -3l- September S, 1l7S Item as • I'm probably not as eloquent. as the two gentlemen be fore me, however, i wish to plead my cause. First of all, Orange Street is one block long . The right- of•way at the beginning of Orange Street from 'Matti a' is 50'. It narrows down to 25' :.u1f-way - #n the blo.;k. I feel that at some time, to accommodate the iec;:ooi, that the City will have to acquire additional property to h.a:.:11 2 th(. traffic down ©range Street. Also, w3 will be require.i to ;gut in si•. ewalks. It would also increase our taxes. We would like to knew what safety nrecautiona havn been taken in case a fire should be at thin school or even at one of the houses on Orange Street. Since the Fire vepartnent is located at oak Avenue and Virginia, the normal course for the Fire Department would be to proceed un Virginia and turn left onto orange street. The City has there only 25'. I doubt if they could make a turn if a car were corning out of orange Street onto Virginia. Would we, at that point, require to have a traffic light installed at the corner of orange and Virginia? The people here who are opruse(1 to thi3 day care center are not opposed to the day care center a: it was in existence. They are mainly propert•, owners on Orange ;-,tr.let and in the general area. I can understand parents, , especially if they're working mothers, have to sand their chil Iron to 3 day care center, however, there is one located at the Corr: ?r of and Virginia. There is ilso another pre-school Montessori . c'►ooi located at 285) S. W. 27th Avenue. This is locatca oa cum: -i ail , cope' ty. I'm sorry, I can no lonuc r speak. Thank yo,z vc r m . •:i for t lattc3 , genticr;'n. Mr. Alfonro: tk you for your presentation. he next in opposition, tate your name any: addrtss for the re^orris, please. Mr. iiughs: My name is ::en ttughz, , I a! a resident o'' 3032 orange Street, Apartment 13, I'm the nwnt,r of the property. I would like to state Coat the school, the 'Lento:sari Association, is known to me and -such respecte4 among my aquaintenceship as well as in my family, and upon inquiry wit': Montessori Directors, I have received a most polite reply. T'm not against Montessori philosophy, I think that it's not the p:;rpose of the opp.s£tion here. ' ty purpose is to protect property valuer and to protect the milieu of the neighborhood which is beinv steadily eroded in moat Sections of Miami by the creation of pro Arty wh, ch gradually degrades into corm _cL41 operation• The Montessori School, ,as it shy Auld be, is comer Their philosophy does not preclude that they earn roney, they hope they male a profit. nut, I a:.sure you, at the considered puttinc r my own son into a tloi.tessori School, afford it. unfortunately, the 'lonte sori Schcot does nt a•abiic in that large a scale that it can justify itself of the white of its immediate vicinity. rcial operation. at least ti -IA I I could not t servo the as a burden I would 9'-rongly recommend that the original variance which was granted this 'ropert} , rce: . have it or fairly reliable account that that variance was granted in a hardship case. to a man and his wife who were require3. because of a severe accident. to find dealer other type of income since the husband was no longer able to work at full capacity. Now we have no recourse in mooning er©pertl until something of this sort occurs where s nay' building has to be erected apparently. I bought since that school h'e been in operation and I consider the* a neighbor preferable to rota else I've - 32e Seratearber $, l97! seen in the Grove, such as the 'Motorcycle shack' and pertain types of religious organisations, however, I think that they should be relegated to commercial property, they should not be allowed to build something that could later become a Drug Rehabilitation Center or perhaps the. Latter Day Church of Satanic Brotherhood, or any of the other despicable aberrations that the Nmericnn public likes. I do hope, as the father of ehildren, chat you will consider that our neighborhood is strongly -- has strenely been put in jeopardy by the traffic which this school occasiorc. And it is already apparent that they will not be satisfied with restrictions which their very allies, the Zoning and Planning Roalyde, has tried to put upon them. They will, no doubt, try to change even that much and subject us to even worse hardships than they've already planned. Thank you. (The audience applause* Mr. . Hugh'. sera. Mattingly: I am tars. vedah Mattingly, 3142 Virginia Street, I live on the Corner of Orange and Virginia. I am not a public speaker but I did want to say a few words. and I have my notes to refer to. Thank you. I opposed the other school when it was first put up 21. years acro because of the cars and the noise. 1 oppose it even stronger today. I object most strongly to a commercial institution in this residential area. I object to the noise generated by the school, and I can hear it where I am, where 1 1iv', end my most strenuous objection is that the increased traffic bv the enlarged school may necessitate the widening of the street which narrows t', 25' bv my home, and the widening would mean that; 1. home ?1 eears will be condemned to widen at the roadway. My bedroom will have to go -- one of my bedrooms. I am 82 years old and I've lived q:lietly and peacefully ard oroeided for :Tie security in t_ir J ite Beare es hest I c —c a . resent the fact that this aecu•. i t�� art-: uo,Nc^r i41ness is now tr,rente,.ea needlessly. The original day school was esta children in the irmediate community whos provide for their families. The school today is an entirely different reason. averaging about $130 per month and they their Parente, although there are about schools in the City, and they will tome :alished to take care of parents had to work to :'rpposed for construction its students pay a tuition .are (:riven to the school by 7 or 8 advertised 'Montessori 4rom a long distance. I feel that granting a variance to such a commercial endeavor is placing undue hardship on the tax -haying property owners of this community and also devaluating o;2r property. Thank you. (The audience applatuses 'irs. Mattingly/. sir. Doan: Thank you ver: such. Anyone else? Mrs. Cubberly: Maly name is Margaret Cubberly, I'm tt 3447 Orange, which is directly across the street ¢coin Montessori. I, too, have no objections to Met Montessori School -- it's a fine school. I think we all know what a good school it i s. I have a blue-eyed, blow'' daughter, ton, wise -- I'm not sure she'r a genius but she's the kind of child whor I'd 1i} a to see going to !'entassori. I have had no difficult%► with tt'ert. They have nett a fine ereun, they're wry friendly, warm neop3e. !t in not then an enormous problem for ae to live across thf, street from thew, up to now. However, wit:. what I hear proposed hers tonight, I am getting very ci isturbed. You're talking about 7S students- in that school -- that's 134 cats in and out of that snail street every day. That'.- a lot of cars. a lot of dirt and a lot of noise and I can only obierot to that. 1 3- seater S. ll57 Item OS R dtalkss I strongly object to that. This is a tiny little street and i don't Like the idea of an enterprise of this size going in there. Mr. Chopin left out a very interesting piece of history for this school. After the Hunts were there -- tney sold the property, uh, they rented the pro72rty to a most interesting group of people. To use the word 'hippie' is iprob, ,1y somethinc i should not rio but for want of a better word, i 11 u -P it. Tticy were the me s t i rrerponsi- b1 + people t've ever seen in my life. The neighbors on oranc:e Street all got together, we signed a petition to hay(+ these people removed from the street....The children were rut in the street, the garbage was flying, the swimming :pool was full of files -- you name it, they were doing it. Compare: to them, Montessor; is marvelous indeed. No one could critire Montessori in the way .:hey run their school, but neighbors have gotten together before, h.icauro this is what happened after the Hurst: left. *tow, suppose Montessori decides to leave? %? iat happens then? What are the people on Orange+ strf-et possible faced with? i leave that question hanging. (The audience applau•;es Mr. Dean: Anyone el a? Ms. tarnest: 3338 orange Street. -role '•3-nvst . 3mi : live at ?Based upon cm.: r , , 't) .c=.., -. E=.•hoc l , operatincr on (>ranoe Street, has been i ` 74.0 ln-i •��.,: y.i'n with thA re��idet•ts of that strut. t -t> , it '1,-- .ALA? :Tx st often of i 11ht,'il : e Fn -• ,�w. : '`' r. resident , y! ±; „ , *'•.. � rCpNrt, , they .. rrr.-'r. .� , �r ;.. -.fir« c.t W : t , e..� . parked ,.ars by makincs "t" tarml :nr: by ?rivin T acro s nut yards. When the building w-3s to -;1 (:ow:: , we ..4 .pre to : 1 !:y th.7. building and Zoning Department that it Wa' done ithr.•ut ._i de! oiition Permit and that a fine had been levied •:,r this, even thnw n th.' proposed new bui ldinewag, I fore the b3ui l ' i nq an' ''.oni nq Board for a building Hermit when the -building was tor: down. The variance that was ar;::lteA 2`% ••e::tr% .lno was conditional upon the use of t ,e exif.-tine+ reside, who ran the school livel on the 14rooert . It was p for community parents. The pronr)_ied school teas tor. residence and intends to build a large cammercial-t• a residential neighborhood. Thi; school is not int hood .::, i idren. Montessori students flay .a hertvy tui dri 'en to school from other part.: of the City in ex' I object to the construe -*ion of a commercia on 'y resideatial street:to the resultant increaree possible widening of the street; the in-reasod psrl: problems: the increased noise; tic oo<<;twie ircreas tax; the decrease in saleable value or the c.'nt.i1 d my --roperty, and the destruction of t! A atr^oqpt+ere that is the 'Grove'. (Thu audience 1' rr.). Mr. t eaA: Alricht, tht:nt: yc a wry rn .eh . siir, we'll revert back to yc,T,. , . Mr. Chopin: There are ,, tour. * . of o`iople to speak in favor of it. • or a day school ce and the couple • imar i ly operated down the pe building in'"• nded for neighbor - 'ion and pre 4s'aive tale. -type bliIdine traffic; the nq f a:i l itissi or in nrnnnerty •siraility of Ind the oharrn wont. else? ►o wciu Id 1 iko Mr. see*n: Just a Nowell.. en' , j us mom -rat - - :m' r h > afraid. L•e^ie on out. • i4- r 9, i97S Item !S hope tr. McFarland* Mir name is Charirs McV'arland, i own the property at 2042 Orange Streit, located directly to the east of the %onteseori School. I will say of all the people who have run thu Montessori School in the 311 years that T havr lived and eiwnod t!.e property, they are the best. Sat we have had throe nrel'ioul people. At one time, it got so bail that I had to tak, to trim the truss and cut the grass and clean up in school t ecause it was so bad, I vls ashamed I lived it. At this time, it wasn't the :tontessori School t' There were two other ladies, I think, for a previous was a Columbian gentleman before that who was so bad came out and threatened to fine h i^t because he was t trash in front of may property. Of the schools, this one has been the beet a rty neighbors have covered most of the ot,ier t pings t be wrong with the school. Thar*. • •ou . :ir. means Thank you verb much. ls . (Unman: My name is G ')range Sfiplet which is directly t don't have sal,: except that all thvr school, • I d the an and I .ent to t`ie sche too y to vu tieopi ^ '. ho ar l:rEa, ^f thr they way the taxes: th the school. • oth ar than • her'. tonic+ • lives in t•. at the area ucson my s e 1 f 'rent of the text door to let did own it. tint and there that the City Crowing open Id the rest of vat seemed to live at 3072 11. wha' has been it in sul)port of vicinity of loos risht within Also, I bought my p':e ,ere: four 'cars arm ir 197 1 ana `ir. and Mrs. Hurst were still on the nrcoerty then. Thef.e people haaenot had the school for five years, and I aeiievc that's about all I have to add to what's been said. Thank you. lr. Going once, .tr. Deans 'I'hartk you ver•• mucl. \1ri 7ht, aT.',ne else? going twice.... Poway: I would just like to add that t: *re +ras 110... Dean: Come back with the name... lr. Iovey: Lane. I just want the school. Thank twice, I bag your pardon, . heck W. Pok to add that l'n names signed a pm you. tmaan: Thank you veery much. gone. Sir? 'ir. Chopin: I'd like to ask Mrs. Cronquist who is a neighbor that lives in the area to tell ynu what she feels a: out the variance. 4r. :Dean: Are you ustnr up 'vo'zr time to re ut? 'tr. Chopin; No sir, the' n are peoplc who's like to I'm nmt. Mr. Oran: eey, 329n Gifford tition against Alright, go I'm saying yo ro Lung up your tr. Chopin: Oh, I as using up my tire? Le Mr. mean: You can Let • 4, lad., speak. but • your time for a rebuttal. The h•LL in no you, isle once, going OP UP lase for a rebuttal. me, let Pius.... ou're using up S«,►tember 11, l'i7S 1 Mr. c.'ht pins New Pugh time do ] have? Mr. Deans 'two minutes Mr. Chopint Two minutes. De real quick (To Mrss. Cronquist). Mrs. Cronquists ukay. t'r, Catharine ''ronquist and I'm in that little green block, you knr•.!. 1' the only bad one on the hl.dck, but I think they're s wonderful croup pollution? We have pollution everywhere anyway and As far as garbage, they're the cleanest people that have been there ar d ! think it',; wonderful. I've lived there sine++ about 1945 and r think they're a wonderful bunch, 1 really do. They're all colors, all c•r-eds, everyt'iinn - that's what we want. (The audience applauder . irs . C ronquist) . ar. Chopin: Since Mrs. Cronquist only took i few seconds, i think I still probably have most two minutes left. Let me say that if I had called on these foL ,Ind asked thf1r to »rececd with a litany of the virtues of ::ontes!;or 1 education, I couldn't have picked some Netter zeople to do t. ::,e people that have appeared here tonight in opposition say, 'well, gee - these people are fine but we don't want a commercial operation in our neic iborhnod' . Well the school is not a commercial oneratt.n at least, (ld knows, I hope it never turns into one. Mr. E'o•.oy, •r•,;o had all thane signatures and I think you know why he hid ;i 1 1 t c .: vaturpt -- he said we've tot to put in sidewalks, that's ..hat ?, roil , ,ecm 1.c +hen he went and got their signatures. rai-_ t' et, Yr!--c gola(' to wi icn the street. That's what he said tonight and •_:Lat.'s Mohet hr told them. He didn't tell them that there was a 15' c,.- lenient on either n: le of that street from this property down to Virai..ia stt-ep. -- ae di: t't tr' ' ^m Liat. He didn't tell the^ t::at. • e i dicati gin, s� ;a. 'no, they're going to widen the ; r. reet , they're? ' oir. g to put in sidewalks, and they're going to raise 'Jrrytaxes'. loll now, if you wart to incite people, just tel: ther rot're -ping tz raise their taxes. Tell me why this school il goi ;a to r,+i le t; ':hi:, .Chaol is going to be on t': a::sr ;„ lent roll, replace a piece of property that's not nl the asses, it's so,infinitesimally, until t' e c:i.t , ., f 'liar i Cor Dade County and the School Board get .mold of it -- lower the taxes because it's going to increase the Well, then they say it dc)esn't serve the co! you know, I don't want to be sar�aRtic becauwr one 'well. it just doesn't take care of enough of the pc on tqe other hand, he says, 'just don't let t'iem inc tnat they're takinn'. I think consistency is demani A.t aatian. no the•• want us to a fnand our aid to the do they want to restrict it? Wn can't do bot't and they're saying. eir taxes: is Toin,r to rent roll, and mission and it's going to asis. muni ty . Now. entlemen said, pulati' n' . Then, cease the number ed in this corrmunity or et that's what Then we heard about semr comp l z i. sn is . wE he. rd about . cos'plaints that we didn't own tNe property. Che:k • he property records. I closed this as an sttornel and I nua:an'.se you that Malecln aurst hasn't owned t'se property in five years. There was an iaterveniaq owry r, 1e a 'flitter fact. aut. that's really not the point, is it. The point ire c.. a waet'zer these people are nroposin/ something that Dale County really needs, whether the City of 'alarm and Coconut Grove wants this kind of operation. That's the uoint ':ow, I ask you this -- d •.1 an0 Lady come for ,ard and say, there's something wrong with this opt ration' ? We sear[., oh, there's 16- feptembsr t, 1975 Item SS ISO cars to bring in 73 kids. Well, ftr three years, four years, they're been operating this school -- Ask :Mr. Simpson, ask any of the City of Miami Agencies -- how many complaints have been registered about any aspect of the operation of this school by any of theta folks and they'll tell you 'not a single one'. They were silent until this moment. The, were gilont until they were hand -feel mis- information, unfortunately. we're not goinr, to do all the terrible things Mr. r'ovey believes. Mr. rhvey . ioesn' t even live on the street -- he owns three houses and he rents them out, but he's opposed to commercial operations '::ecaue there's higher taxes. Okay. Let me just say one other thing. In discussing the matter of the parking spaces with Mr. Dconey, I believe the City is willing to accept an offer by the petitioner to increase the number of proposed parking spaces from 6 to 8 wi-_:- the understanding teat if at such time in the future the enrollmInt increases to a Point wr.ere it's necessary to increase it further. From 8 to 10, that we would be willing to do so, and we are, in fa-.t, modifying our petition orally at this point, to request thaw '• a be allowed to amenc' the plans to provide for 8 parking !:naCCS ir,tead of the existinct G with the additional proviso that if in the .vent it's necessar•;► ��.� later date, it will again increase to 1.0. t think I t. Dconey will indicate to you acceptance of that. So, that's pretty much iat I lave to say. There are a lot of people out here, very respon : i:.lc. pople, that gave uu their evening to come and talk to you. In tac interest of not taking any more: time than necessary, I'm gr-.ing t^ atop here but I ask you to consider what you've :card, and r a: k 0'.1 to ..onsider what we're trying to do here -- we're not trying to D+'ilr' a hi' -rise, we're net trying to tear down property, we'r , tryinn to i:.prove it. You've seen 4hat the street looks like, 'e'r trying to qe hac': to the status quo, really, when it get r. _•: c r oa r.tfl it. We're tryihe to do what the City of tsiami told u:: we could do on July the with, and which brought us to tear down this building, and i sincerely, sincerely ask your consideration and approval of the variance request. Thank you very much. iir. Dean: Thank you. (The audience applauds arlain for Mr. •'hopin ` . Al.. Dean: (In response to a voice from the audience). No, no, come to the mike and put your name anal address in the record then ask your question. Mr. Sayer!: try name is ,:alt Siyeg, I own the property at 3171. 2' 173 Orange Street, acres- the - treet from th ' school. I'd lust like to ask a question for the rt.cord, because I know a lot of people have done a lot of talking and it's getting late. Awhile ago, you asked tor a :how of proponents anti opponents. :low the proponents stood up and of coarse they, by far, outnumbered the opponents. Now I wonder for the record, again, since this is a record, I presume, if you would ask the proponents 1.0 steno►, and then ask proponents who own property in the immediate arm: of the school to remain standing, for the rec' rd. . )f course ther3 are a lot of proponents -- there are a lot o: proponents here but I don't think any of them live in the T don't think any of these people back here who spoke against tr.::; are against the school or thu building. The building is heauti tl, the people who run it arc terrific, but they're just against th? amount of traffic that this is go:.nq to generate. That's all. !ir. Mans I don't thin': that -• when I as' the panels who are for the applicant to stand, and tote opposed, it's tl a only thing that I asked, - - I don't • `pink fere here to -- I think that 37- Sent tber B, 1975 Item OS only in America can we do who we're doing teasyy, tonight, that we all come hero and discuss like intelligent people. Now the application has been put forth to this Body. The opposition has made their point. Ne are now going to close the public hearing and Proceed to deliberate and make our recommendation, one way or the other. ?sir. gayety And wo'I1 go 11onq with that, sir. We're not arguing that point, but the point we Are prcbabiy against is the fact that all these people who ere far it -- they don't have the same basis of fact that we do. ':.- own property them+. These people have nothing there but there kid ► which is wonderful -- we all have kids, I have kic's. One of may ki01 went to the school. We'd just like to know, for the record, that yo': .eked the prononents to stand up... ►,ir. Dean: But i didn't ask th.;t particular I don't think that is a... ?ir. Bayeg : The property owner. . ?tr. Dean: I don't think that... 4r. Sayan: I think that has more basis... ?ir. Dean: I don't think it has any basis. owns property in Dade County. Mr. Sayeq: But they don't ,7+wr. :Jr sir. Dean: But I don't t::in' t e,l.inq. We're not dealing with :retht: Their concern, their concern that .h ,.. schts01 there, some of them there ut, support. Those that came down in opus, their point. You have made your Yc make ours. Mr. Sayee: Good enough. :tr. Dean: Thank you. (The audience applauds question and t think everybody ,e area affected. • _A ,_7, deal inj with tr..::e i:. the area or not. ,.•n t air c' ildren -von,. tr they Came (t,:rn ...• :;a tinn of it -- they've made ve made yours, now let us :Ir. Dean: Alright, we'll clor.e the public Aearin and have discussion among Board Members. Mr. Silverman: Just in relpoLso to what thu previous speaker said, s.:•" ru.p that's on the wall and 2 i s part of t'te file, clearly ohms the people in the neighborhood, whether they •ire for or against it. That's why we send out the notic' •f' . :hose that are marked in red are property owners in opposition to the application and those that are marked in green are prn9erty owners within 37S' of the property that are in favor of the application, so tits L-oard knows who is in favor and who is oppo8:,d as far as the point You wars trying to bring out regarding t!:e pro: etty owners. • we know that most of the people in favor of this application are people who have children in the school and we can tell very clearly fro the map tasat ,-'f. the :, - -)p1e in the area are opposed to this application. So we undecstani your point. Mr. Deans Yes, but that doesn't altar our decision one way or the other. about a number gain. ? Ir. Silverman; No, I'm not saying meow I persona 1' y feel on the merits. I'm just trying to point out to the gentlemmu. that his point s�known to us, there's no question about it and it' .; put of •3t• Snptember •, 197S Item IS 1 4 Pir. Deans Okay, alriTh+l+ uow, hies. Callahan? Mrs. Csilahant I wanted to ash the question -- haw many students have been the maximum onroile't there? Mr. Chopin: Wt haA SS student•: last academi me explain something, too, to re.A:ly p.m that in per operate with some children going 'till lay and some c pare going on a half day schedule. Thn very young eh 2 to 21, usually go half a day for the first year an go into a full day's school, dap^niin;; on their love we probably had 35 full time and 2'1 part tine. It v that we're cooperating with Dadn ccrrnt-, we would ar number of Federally -funded children to incroase that year. Let :pactive. Thev l i ldt en who .ldrt'n, the tht n they'll :opmc nt. Sn >t r i eec . Now :icitare the to £ orte extent. tors. Callahan: Jne more ;aeration, what hour; is the school open? At.. Chopin: well, the hours. tt does, and thi' has with people -- there have Leen so t:hriatma3 ,,rr,qram the week '- 3 away with that. I jilt Ar+n't_ with parenta, I man, they icn't in A while, they' l ve a couple tr. "onin: • «Ili arrive there early : or t.ru aai.:a111. it'.; traAitii iii ;•.;. :a21a°+an: :`lane 1: Iporates the r 1 r,' r)., . em of some _,t•...,1. meetings, tr:st µgas, and I'm think that's so tft 'lave if) cars there '.lf parents over. arma3 school consternation they even had 3t a:teeing to ribls. to meet at nght. once :411101oul`: ... Chi t.+_ 9 : 1 . ()w t . _. Y .'lay :) • are redera ly-f at is :, that +; lr.2 a°: appose, to .(,cation, •tr. :. op:n: to fact, it not ! :nq e:10Wt. irs. Hestia; lay I ask tais r.i,!htion, did -our irchitect re olve the problem with the PlA::nine ?.,rtment? egar'.ing the square footage? :Ir. Chopin: I believe .,',. I think... "r•. :.*an: I think we'll find out fro, :r. 'tr. ©ooney: to conversing over the ratter, general agreement between the Staff ani the archite the matter of a waiver of develc';ment on parkin.; en parking. That is to say that I think it's agreed t to have as much parking as pose i an, ganerous plrki to handle all probabilities and -aftset peak nun t ane However, because there are a nurser of trees on the a.:lition, because we're not certain at this moment occur when a new facility is bui Lt, that the waiver probably would benefit us a ' . .'hat ‘s to may that need d is arise. the space will 'is!, available to be were talking in ssence, if the zoard :rill. of cons site plan for •igh .,developed splees pith s waiver Mc. Mr. ►oone `✓ . I think there's :t. ''e aid consider ! not a waiver of tat ul wou13 like tg on this site, hot.r' situations. site ant in that 13 going to of r ask inq if end when the level ©pei. So ide=ri nea a revised ma tuo. Silverman* HaPv tow . out Ilse, the ei ae of the 000mey i Well, the n Lie cam. the'.61-amireocis ar't a building? .. It !7S tte m OS pretty wall agree. What we're t.i king at out hero is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1800 sq. ft.. If y, u're applying the State titan iar,ts that I indicated to you: befo a which we f'.1 are rather -urrent, we're tal inq about somot'tind on the order r,f 50 students. :'hls 4e offer to voA as .a gauge. This is not to say that we are holding fait at ex.actl•: '1 *!.-1dphts. itt i would say.• this -- 1 think we're going to run over the site 'apac:. ty here if we+ go too far beyond 50 students, and we're dealing ';ith a situatir.n here -- we don't knew, raaber010101.11PlittorMilp ios are croinn to be with the new, completer' new structwri. or r tc. we feel 'hat 51 would rrohal.'1•.• be an mac t1 numt,er. "r. `:,• :r. ;...f c. say . :an't have ,ny r.,;iec•tion ' tatu 3tart.i :r•:, -41:: : wan' t», th.1 I think there • .I,• zr r asan`1erstar.:ini. i,eriaps 'Amos something, yr i know, 2 fostered. State Jot set do an standard,: and ;e cannot over tte ith any :r*!ater number of -hi 1eren then anyway, in order to '►e q �a:ifieci b t.►u State. So it ;csun,i:, to me thAt whit 71r. UoOney .s saying is that Stan la-4 is go'nq to be determined by the number of :;tate-sport cored ..A1141s , and 1 t:; i n t'. t ' s the way it ,should be and •te'r• ,3t�rY tt h in favor of that. 4e'rc not asking for anything oth sr tl.a ,tdtt. .ii,:tatc . .)ear,: Alright, has 'tr. ')r ,rey answered tour questions? ik ay . '.ny other hoard ‘:eru,e t•? :r. ,;ort : :' •i lik•! to 1 k vet, A r,aentio:.. .'hy :o:1 i a be /ranted tc these oeor.2r wit! ,_:t : c,: Inc- )re �_.. a l'ermit grant, : .:•' . ::r.: .o ,? • ... ! �• t .e i ! r. :silver, :.an: . S 1 unt . c .• ",• • .' 1: _ t °., t ` ;, ♦ a , t. . r t t. :wr1y issue a i rrmit that' wh•. `•. -ter• evenini. . 'r. loft: it . dean : I t', 1 r.k , • 4116.. tr. =Aver. .r.. :e, att, _ i?i,:n, t!,a mea :S the :al is f int . the p1 Ar. n . i; s n , everythin• els . hut they •±Ifs••. zonin4: *::as also approved. 1 think a :-,ist :ke ray ,t t ,apt thi nr t:► ' ; unfortunate. r. ::ail you c rt r ...11 1,7hte. :. that tart a.,out w',t'ther i'. ,:as ap')rove t or nr: .Ipc rc v' ! br_Ca ;se " _ 0 of letters maintained t t i' a'.pro`1t'i' ani tn•cn it wa`; . . . . . . . ='!r. Simpa,!:a. Tho vatic: asn••r• s of the p1 n ' 'e 4j4proved, inc,L 3dinq sanit;g, but thr_n th"y .:nal:y - f i:'s3l'y tie 'iF ci •iun was -'+.t !a that it did :'egwire a hearittz. yr, Jean: Okay. an' other 1is•'us ;ion: '.aright. t' at eruc iit l r►u,nent. 1 want to r“.? vac's .join 1 to mac the ' 'c►o.. or t•lo ' aa.1 141 ' . C4 ,: r„aA. -,A* a motion • Al. at one time. t:lu; Mr. Silverman; 'ir. Chair:can? 14r, Deans gar. Silverman:. U. Silverman: Mr. Chairman, either than } -o1oug this this evening. I'll just move in aeco: lance with the !starling +t tff's recommendation for approval. st: iect *o the conditi it s h 1i they have 40— 5optembes 0, L975 items IS ltemi ted, with the amendment concornin . the number o' oarkir, i gpacei. Mr. :jean: Alright, what will -no amend it on the parkin(' Mr. Silverman: "rnm 10 to 8. Mr. Dean: 10 to t? Okay, you've heard the notion. is there a second? Mr. Simngnn: "r . 'hair' ,r:: '•r . :)ean 'r . amrl- r-f('rrin.7 tc .ire, '' tt,e ':ire t=l,t: EP • • lr r,ah: sir. Alfonso: Mr. 'r. DeallIONW. Al rnt +1forven: ?'m .?• -� t it thi..1 n ' thit's the reA';* !. • • ? f-:I:tv. I zr—on.i t 1 . r. eon; ' : r1 • 'r. • h'. r.nt for . and want to iral1:(*,1tinn we at' /ring trt'. • •? : , t" * r 1 : h . he,• r3, the ' 1 ion. It's ti'fsr-`,' .s r.,,r't• ' 4 ins' nor-. f".'ei (lu:('t '.r. c Ir'p;;i)n, . 7 31.E •f i i • r' 1 1 ,.r. .;irr.-,son: The rn'ltlor: t•,. :parr y�t4. •reco''tr'»':! idt Lon to park oss 1l3 st A.ia tor 2 future. '• onty objections were in tie try •rrt try t'wi ('inn in r serve • re.1 rn mi7iiir.611011aeommoom. 411111011114; Ir. . `'i lver'an offered red t!:e 'cal lc.: ing resolution, and moved at i.o:t on: • (Continued on next page) • 175 :ten 05