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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1975-09-26 MinutesCITY OF MIAMI "ti " "‘ • t c'‘PECIAL COMMISSION MINUTES OE MEL1ING IIEU) UTl simpers 26, 1975 PREPARED UV no OFFICE of ill! I? Ill< iv 14 ' . 1U iti( 1' 4 ,4 4. CITY S OF RE II ISSIOR OF NI lI. FLORI CT ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION NO, PAGE MO GENERAL LUDGET D15CU$ totJ 2. ENTER INTO COLLE CTtVE BARGAINI►44 AGREEMENT with City Employees Local 654 American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees -AFL-CIO upon ratification 3. ENTER INTO CrLLLCTIVr BAnC, t!JING AGREEMENT with Employee organization known as Fraternal Order of Police upon ratification 4. ENTER tNT( COLLECT tVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT with organization known as General Employees Association upon ratification 5. ENTER INTO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT with organization known as International Association of Fire Fighters, AFL-CIO, Local 587 upon ratification 6. ENTER INTO COLLECTIVE 3ARGAI?IIN( AGREEMENT with organization known as Sanitation Employees Association upon ratification 7. APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE for fiscal year ending September 30, 1976 8. TILLAGE ORDINANCE for fiscal year ending September 30, 1976 WING APPROPRIATIONS $9,454, 852 9. Federal Revenue Sharing Finds for fiscal year ending September 30, 1976 RESOLUTION OF INTENT 10. Redemption of all outstan- ding SPECIAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS AND OUTSTANDING SPECIAL OBLIGATION ORANGE BOWL BONDS of the City of Miami on March 1, 1977 11. ALLOCATE $3,025,000 from TRUST FUND,City of Miami GENERAL FUND for purpose providing funds for employees COST OF LIVING Increase beginning October 1, 1975 12. Allocate $3,025,000 from special obligation CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND Convention Center Project 13. Appropriate $185,152 for purpose of the continuing projects PUBLIC LA'S 92-500 Federal eater Pollution Control Act fiscal 1975-6 14. AMD.ORD 6871 - ARTICLE XXIX- nistrative "Certificate, wired" n75-907 t 75-908 R75-909 R75-910 R75-911 EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 8464 EME RGIICY ORDINANCE NO. 8465 EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 8466 R76-912 R75-913 R75-914 FIRST READING ORD. EMERGENCY ORD. 8467 10 11 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 14 15 15 MIIIJ ES OF CITY CISS1ON 15. Enact new PEE SCHEDULE Amend Sections 5,6,7,8 Ordinance 7723,7802 and 8109 16. Amend tMIAMI CITY EMPLOYEES RETTREMENT SYSTEM AND PLAN - City's Contribution ADJOURNMENT 'EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 8469 16*18 ctnr�"tco �ct rig---�t�a #n.o O,t tht tith day vi 3tpte$Ibtk, 1975, tht City Commiasios oj Want, FLc* 4 met et it4 *team mettimi place at City Sett in 'aid City is SPECIAL SESSION to costa* the p*Op*0f ed appaoptiatios okdtsmltce Ko* the CLt' o g Miami #ok the jicat yea f $ 75-1l7i. the meeting MO4 cdt d to 044141t at 10115 O' Clock A.M. with the fretesatrtg nte*beu of the COMP446i0M pktstnti CoMMiSiitoMa Rose Goldoni Coittiaitont* (Rev.) thtodoke Gibson Commiasiosta M.noto Reboio Vice Mayon J. L. Ptumweat J'c. Mayon Maustce A. Foote P. W. Mamma, City Manage* A. P. Nought Asitstant City Mange_ John S. Lloyd!. City Atto'ney H. O. Southeast City CCe k 1. GEYE'tAL BUDGET Reiph G. O tpte, Asi.i.stast City CWtk iltscass j ost Atao Ptehewts Miayor Porte: The way we left this budget yesterday is that we tried to pass on an emergency basis the proposal of changing as recommended by the Manager the amortisation on the pension from 35 to 20 years. That was voted on three to two and therefore, failed on an emergency basis. Procedurally then the way we have to do this is as Mayor of the City of Miami I'm calling for a Special Commission Meeting on the subject and then continue discussing the budget. Mar as I under- stand it there were some meetings this morning between the Plan and the System and at this time I'd like to see if those that were on the winning side of the vote, that's Mrs. lose Gordon and J. L. Plummer who voted no yesterday, if they would like to bring this up for reconsiddration. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, for a point of edification of myself, I understand the status as of yesterday is no status which means that only to reconsider the issue of yesterday do we have to make, Mrs. Gordon or I, a motion. Is that correct? Other than that the floor is open for either another motion or further discussion. Mayor Ferrel That's correct, absolutely. Mr. Plummer: At this time, Mr. Mayor, 1 as not in a position to offer a reconsider- ation motion. Mayor Ferrel So the situation stands. Mr. Plummer: Excuse se, Mrs. Gordon has the opportunity. Mayor Ferns Well. she says no. flr. Plummer: Oh, I's sorry, I didn't hear her. Mayor Ferns Mow Let me describe to you ths alternatives that we have et this point (11 we can pass this on a regular motion which sans that if we vote Like we voted yesterday, I'm assuming, it would pass three for and two against. That would then swan that we would have to wait 1S days. At ths end of iS days we could pass this an a regular basis and the budget would then proceed. The other alternative is if nobody makes such a motion or if it doesn't pass that we then are faced with either a reduction of the budget as proposed, in other words a reduction as I see it on the services. There is no way to reduce the budget with- out cutting out services in this tight budget or we would have to increase tares or find other funds or other sources that would amount to 13,000,000 approximately and those are as I see it the three alternatives that we have before us at this time. Mr. Flamers I concur. Nr. Mayor, is the floor open tor discussion? Mayor rerres Tes. SLP 26195► • • P. Purr Mr. Mayor, t told you i wanted to sleep and give a lot more thsegirt. As you know, lip mein point is one. And that is my total opposition yesterday to the eatemdlaq of the oymortiaatlon of the accrued losses of this Pension Pend of $143,000,000. Mr. Mayor, I'm happy to tell you this horning that 1 have giveste a lot of thought, I have done a lot of research, a lot of soul searching - my point today is even stronger than it was yesterday. I would like to tell you that t have had the oempetatlan run based an facts. Those facts, and t will be glad to furnish each and everyone of you a copy of this penciled form, those facts, Mr. Mayor, based on the assumption rate which we presently use of 4 3/4, and t will give you a personal opinion that that assumption rate is not too far offs that it will cost the taupsyeerrc s of this town to go tram the 20 year funding to the 3S year funding based on facts an additional $412,842,500 not including compounded interest. Mr. Mayor, t understand your dilemma, I'm on the same dilemma but under no circus. stances can t amortise this out an additional 1S years costing the taxpayers of this oonmenity an additional 162400,000 plus compound interest. Mayor !'rare: Mall, t would hope we could avoid all of this but since we have to now go over this again and get on the record I'll give you my side of it. tt is vary very simple. The taxpayers of this community have either to come up with f8,000,000 or $11,000,000. The difference is $3.000.000. Now as far as I'm cow. corned it is really very simple. I know that we'll have to pay more over a period of time, it's Like a mortgage. Now if I have a 25 year mortgage and the savings and loan will give me a 35 year mortgage or a 40 year mortgage► of course, I'm going to pay more in interest but my monthly payment is going to be reduced. And t think it all depends on what is more important to me. Is it more important for me to pay less today or is it more important for a. to save X nutrber of dollars 40 years or 35 years from now? And in my opinion it is just very simple. We have got to get to the simple premise that we have to do what is best for the citizens of Miami today. And all I'm saying is i want to put $3,000.000 of the citizens money back in their pockets and not have to have the taxpayers, any way you look at it it's taxpayers' funds, pay $11,000,000 when our experts - the actuarial ex- perts that we rely on - tell us that we can do the very same job and be as conserv- ative for $8,000,000. And even if we had those $3,000,000 available I'm for doing it the most conservative way today. The most conservative way today is the least amount of money to be paid and that means 20 years rather than 35. That's my posit- ion. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, what I wanted to ask you on the record, do you find any serious disagreement with these figures? Mr. Andrews: I don't know that i can find any serious disagreement because I'm not wise enough to really understand how this is carried out to arrive at that so I can't argue with the figures is what I've been trying to tell you. They sound reason- able but I have no way of judging that. There's another area I have to weigh... Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, Mr. Manager, I would like to proceed with :my way of questioning and then if you haveattateeaent. Mr. Manager, it bothers me to no end that you don't know what this additional funding is going to cost the taxpayers• that you didn't find out whether in fact it was $40,000.000, $50,000,000, $60,000,000 or what. And for you not to be able to give this commission a figure I think is wrong. Non Mr. Mayor, getting back to rebuttal of what you said, you know it is very nice to indicate to the public today that you're going to leave $3,000,000 in their pocket but 1 think it also should be said • the truth - and the truth is you're going to give them $3,000,000 today but you're going to take out 4S million tomorrow for them to pay the gaff of this additional funding. Mayor Perres Out the point is this' that I'm bare representing not the Pension Plan and not the System, I'm not here representing 1800 employees or 4000 employees. I'm here representing 370,000 citizens of the City of Miami who in my opinion are either going to have to pay N, 000.000 or they're going to have to pay f 11, 000, 000. Now my expert which is Cruse, Connor and Ling, till no that I can do the very same thing on a oonseervattw bests which the federal government does, which is what the state of Merida does and what the majority of the cities throughout the united states do by doing it over 3S years then why should I impose upon the taxpayers to pay an additional $3.000,000 when it is a conservative approach and it solves the problem for meat Mow as I say I think the two alternatives are you increase tares by $3,000,000 or you reduce services by $3,000,000 and those are not acceptable. Mr. Plummer: Or the third. Mayor Pernes Tell as the third one. Mr. Planners Other sources. Meyer rerres Well teller what the other sources are. ,... Sip 26 Mr • P ivwus r m If we have to I'll t. Mayor Perret Meii, i'ii tell you what I would like to recormend, and lot the majority - the majority of this commission has voted for the e*tenston from 20 years to 3S years. Now the reason why we can't pass it today is procedurally we have to peas the budget on an emergency basis. However, the majority of this commission as voted yesterday, 3 out of S voted for going from 20 to 35 years amortisation. Therefore, I would like to recommend that the majority will be expressd, we say have to wait 1S days, the majority of this commission has voted to do it that way. •o procedurally what i would lute to do, Mr. Andrews, I'd like to rieaslmeed that we 90 ahead and pass this on a regular basis, let the majority rule and then ws'ii have to wait the 1S days and you'll have to pass an emergency ordinance, wait the 15 days and them at that time vote and let the majority vote it that way. Now if that doesn't pass then I think we have to the hard question, what to do with the budget. And as Plummer said we have three choices - we reduce services, we increase taxes or we find an alternate source of Mrs. Gardens May I hear from Mr. PIs his alternate sources night be? Mr. Plummert dose, I haven't fully developed my alternate sources but you know right off the bat, sometimes my statements are miconstrwed. You know I think as I picked on the Sanitation Department only because that figure represented what i needed to fund the additional policemen, the thing that immediately comes to the top of my head is if I were to put a vote to the people of this city of an additional $62,000,000 or Dinner Key Auditorium there is no question in my mind which they would say. Now I realize that is an unfair thing to say but I'm saying off the top of my head i think it really comes down to one thing - priority. Now you know we can find, and I want this misconstrued, we can find moneys to build a convention center, we can find moneys to do this. You know in the last couple of !months I have found money, excuse me I have heard of found money to the tune of almost $15,000,000 that a year ago we didn't know about. Suddenly this franchise tax of Florida Power and Light has become a gold !nine. We didn't know about that last year. We're getting ready to renegotiate to re -do the Southern Bell contract Franchise. We're suddenly finding $19,000,000 to re -do the Orange Bowl. Now, Mr. Mayor, I know what you're going to say; that it is an unfair statement, the Orange Bowl hopefully will carry itself but practically we know it's not. if he would be good enough to say what Mayor Ferret Well, it has. Mr. Plummer: But where do we find all of these moneys to do these other things but we cannot find the moneys to do the basic obligations? That's all I've got to say. Mayor Ferret Well. let as say this. If we find $3,000,000 today I for one am not for the spending of $11,000,000 when we can spend $8,000.000. If you find $100,000,300 it's the principle of the thing. Now it just simply means to as if I have a home if the bank will take my mortgage and instead of giving me 20 years will give me 3S years on my mortgage I would accept that today. Mow you have a different philosophy on it. i have to interpret what I think the majority of the people of Mimed would do and I think the majority of the people that are hard- pressed for money today would rather take the savings today and let thirty-five years from now worry about itself. All I'm saying is if we can do this for $8,000,000 why should we do it for i11400.0007 I'm sorry there aro 1700 employees that are involved that are recipients of this. My concern is the 365,000 citizens of Miami and in my opinion they would best be served by this without doing any harm to the employee groups that are going to be served. Mr. P1ummasrs Mr. Mayor, you know it is alright for you to obligate your grand- children but I'm not going to obligate may grandchildren and that's what we're doing. We're talking about 3S years tram today. And ail we're talking about is do the taxpayers of this community. and let me tell you, Nr. Mayor, not that Pm propos- ing but let me tell you the simple truth. Do the tumors of this community want to bite the bullet for 8/i0 of a mil/ today or over the long haul digest almost 2' mills every year? Mow really that's the crux to the question. Mayor Ferries That's true. Mr. rimier' 8//0 of a mill today is what would be needed to generate the funds to make us save the tamperers $62,000.000. Now that's the crux. Mayor 'errs s Mites your focus on it. My focus on it is that I went to saw the taxpayers S3.000,000 this year and we'll worry about 20 Years from now 20 years trout now. SEP 3 S WS Mayor Ferret Wel� ak... iaag t Mith veer +ltatssmsnt saving them the money. Yoe are se Ong them Mr. Mimeses You're not saving them anything. To 're costing them Sot sore. Mayor Perres J. L., when a taxpayer gets a bill he's not going to start worrying about, as far as I'm concerned when I Beet a bill it's a bill and I've got to pay it. it's not the amount of money it's right now how much do i owes today. That's what the taxpayers ars thinking about. We're under very adverse soonoa►ic condit- ions in this country and I'm worried about conserving the money today. hev. Gibson' Mr. Mayor, it would appear to me that we're not going to change anybody's mind hers this morning. Me must do one of two things. The saves people who told us or the same people who have advised the two members of the commission, I want this to be heard because you know I'll have to see you later on, the same two people who have advised the two softer. of the commission and I mean because they serve on the boards with you. Do you understand? You didn't go to them, i don't want to give: the wrong impression but the various boards met. I think you were meeting this morning weren't you? Isn't that right? Tell the peeoplee. Is that true? Ok. Uben I walkedd in at least I raw you all up here meeting. Ok. These sales people said to you, "Don't you vote for this 35 year package over and against the 20." Look, J. L. Ok, assume they didn't say, I'm sure there is an overriding principle why you aren't changing your mind. Ok. Let's take back all those increases we're talking about or if we don't want to do that then let's let it run its normal course. That is since three of us feel that the 35 years is the way to go and we're not going to change the other two people's minds I would sug- gest, Mr. Mayor, respectfully suggest. Mayor Ferret Well sake it in the form of a motion. Rev. Gibson: I want to wait and let Rose make a comment. But I want to tell every- body I don't think we should stay all morning going around the merry-go-round and i am prepared to offer the motion that we follow the normal process of coming up in the 15 days and then voting. Now Rose makes a comment and then I make my motion. Mayor Ferret Well twill so recognize you after the comments have been made. Mrs. Gordon: For those who feel inclined to the 35 year term you sight want to re- call the conversation that took place late yesterday as to the possilbility of the one year lower amortization on the same 20 year term. I want to bring that to your recollection because it is not boxed into an irrevocable 35 year funding which fig- ures I've just been handed by Mr. Plummer mean a long term obligation of an addit- ional $62,000,000. 8o I just brought this forward as a reminder. Rev. Gibson* But Rose, let me say this... Nee. Gordon; Them I would also say, Father, in conjunction with that since you know it won't go away by itself unless it's given some proper medication and treatment; that in the interim period if the majority who vote in that direction feel that a new actuarial study must be made upon the results of the new returns that are being brought in since aonsy managers were changed almost 2 years ago reflecting a return in excess of 10% and our actual assumption is 4.7S taking into account there is in- flation and it needs to be considered. Even with that in mind, a new actural study must be made and it is my understanding as well that the federal government in its restructuring and it's interest in pension funds may I have boon told go to a 6t minimums and if this takes place there would therefore be a different earnings assumpt- ion given to us whether we are looking for it or not. 8o i thought perhaps I should remind you of this. Nev. Gibsons Node. I overheard the conversation yesterday about if we did it this way, adopt the 35 year plan for this year that we could revert next year. I heard that and I thought that was a reasonable position to take and i thought that when we got here this corning that that would be the position, that we go on for 35 years this year with the position thmt at the end of the year. one year laving stud Lod the thing, that we are not committed to an irrevocable position. Mow if you want, however I can accammpiish that I'm prepared to make the motion because I don't think we're going to change anybody's mind. It is like a church fight. nobody is going to change. Tell as how to make it, Moss. Mr. Plummer. rather, in a church fight everybody loses. 4 $EI s i WS Mayor Ferrel fret Me add May voice in agreement with that. Lrtt ne pat it to you this way. t want to give yov another example. Now some of you may or May net bey Fite insurance. for the way bay life insurance for my children, the way t buy ilfo insurance I want to get the cheapest amount of fife insurance, i want to get the maximum amount for the least amount today. flow the insurance companies come up with all kieda of plans that if you give them a little bit more money the amortisation instead of for life, for example, they give you a 6S year plan that you have all these different benefits. Out you see, they want to get more money now. The reason they want more money is they say they're going to invest that money end they're going to protect me because I've got a better plan. The way I figure it is I'd rather than have that Morey in my pocket because I figure that I know what to do best with my own money. So what I want is the least amount of cost for the maximum amount of coverage. This is exactly what this is all about. Now I'm perfectly willing to go along with the premise that we go into a 35 year based on the economy today. Next year if the economy changes or two years from now we'll take it up again. I'm perfectly willing to do this on a one year basis. Weil go to 35 years for this year, if we can afford to come back to 20 years, to 35 years next year then we'll do it that way. That i would accept. Mr. Plungers I lust want to establish the record very very clear. Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry that's between you and i but we're good enough friends that we can speak very free. Mr. Mayor, I must establish the premise based upon your conversation that in no way are we saving dollars for the people. We're not saving dollars. That $3,000,000 becomes 4%t only stretched out over a longer peiod of time. Mayor Ferrel Well Paul, you're shaking your head... you leave we alone here to do all the talking. Mr. Andrews: I'm not leaving you alone, Mr. Mayor. This is an area I would think that the commission would come to its own conclusion on and not have a Manager espouse a philosophy that the commission itself should have. But let me present this to you. You have a table here that produces interest rate at 4 3/4% based on $3,000,000 as I understand it. Mr. Plummer: Correct. Mr. Andrews: And compounding that. Mr. Plummer: No, that's not in here. Mr. Andrews: Well, it takes $3,000,000 and adds each year $3,000,000. Now I'm going to take this same $3,000,000 because now you're sitting as money managers for the taxpayers and you're saying I'm going to take $3,000,000 out of your pocket and I'm goinq to invest it in such a way that it only earns 3 3/4 interest earning. But how much money will they earn on paying off their mortgages earlier, using money to buy automobiles if that's what they want to do and not pay this debt? what you're saying to the is we think we know how to invest your money better than you do... Mayor Ferres That's exactly the point. Mt. Andrews: If I couldn't come to you with sound actuarial information that we have gotten that this is an acceptable plan, that it is sound and it is conservat- ive that everyone else is doing it, then I would have to agree with your position but that's not the case. Mayor Ferns: Let me rephrase this in common language. It is very simple. I would rather leave the $3,000,000 in the taxpayers' pocket with the assumption that the taxpayer is going to be able to unrest that money and wake more out of that 53,000,000 than whatever percentages that these plans and systems funds are going to do and that's all you're saying and I agree with that. Mt. Plummer' Just one point of rebuttal to what the Manager has said. I don't know of any successful plan, Mr. Manager, that has changed its horse in the. middle of a stream. Yes, many plans across the country are adopting the 35 year plan and I have no objection to that but I don't know of one that hes changed its horse in the middle of the stream and been successful. All of them that have done it have fatted and I wet to remind you all that this system tailed to 1939. Mayor Ferres Mall, as you said yesterday this systems can't fail because it is an open end system. Mr. Plummsrm No, what I was saylnq. Mr. Mayors obviously you didn't understand what I was saying. This system cameot fail unless this city tails. !lead it en out beyond that. SEP 2 6►1S OP Mayor Verret Ok. INe 11, when tMs city fails them 1' 11 to 11 you I've got news for you - Metro is going to fall and so is the State of rrlorida and a lot of other things are going to be failing because right now our physical position is not that far off. All I'm saying basically is that this is the best approach. I think it is the simplest way to solve this problem. I think there is no question that t would rather leave that money in the taxpayere pockets as of right now and that's who I'm worried about and that's who I'm representing and that's who elected me. Mr. Plummer: Well Mr. Mayor, t sure hope that you're not giving an emphasis or an inference that I'm not concerned about taxpayers' dollars. Mayor Perrot J. L., if I felt that way about you then i wouldn't have said what I said last night. And the fact that I think that you made a great public servant and a commissioner speaks for itself. We happen to have a disagreement. You take an ultra -conservative viewpoint on the long run but as far as I'm concerned the way inflation is going I'd rather pay today's dollar 20 years from now Which the way inflation is going it's probably going to be worth 1©s of what the dollar is now. You see, you don't take all these things into account. And all I'm worried about is today. What will the taxpayer have to put out of his pocket today. That's what i want to do. stow I'm not inferring anything but you happen to be, and loose, happen to be the chairman one of the Plan and one of the System and you've got a dual responsibility. Now I don't have that responsibility. Mr. Plummer: May I make the record very clear by acknowledgement by the Manager before this was ever discussed with the Pension System I objected very loud and long to you my personal opinion of objection. Is that correct? Mr. Andrews: Oh, yes. That's absolutely correct. Mr. Plummer: Before it every went to the Pension Fund? Mr. Andrews: Yes. Mr. Plummer: I want that on the record. Mr. Andrews: Well, but you even raised those, and in fairness to his position, he raised those objections over a year ago. Mr. Plummer: That's right. Mayor Ferret Listen, J. L. Plummer represents the conservative viewpoint on this commission. That's why this is a well balanced commission. I accept that. He's entitled to his opinion, Iem untitled to mine. I look at this as a businessman. Now I'm in a business and right now in this year circumstances are different from two years ago and we've just refinanced a whole series of loans. Now, three from now I may want to refinance it all over again but in today's reality... That's right. ... There isn't one business from United States Steel or General Electric or General Motors that doesn't do that every single year and I don't see why the City of Miami should be any different from a well -run business. That's all Iwo saying. Mrs. Gordon: All right, if we're going to talk about well run businesses, well run businesses are up to date in tiwir studies, well run businesses are basing their budgets upon facts and we are basing ours upon facts that were established 3S years ago before our money managers changed and I take exception to the whole concept because a budget was prepared and i didn't intend to go this route at all but i'a going to say it now. A budget was prepared based upon ordinances which were not in affect and we are here now sitting and saying that we look like some kind of I don't know what, digging into the pockets of the poor to pay our taxes when that isn't the fact. The tact is time should have had a now study made or we should have been prepared for this eventually - not now, months ago, Nr. Andrew. Before you prepared that budget you should have told us about that 33 year funding is a prime requestts of that budget's adoption and not now and not a month ago or a few weeks ago or whatever it was. I kissd of just resent being placed in this position at this time. Now I understand the economy and I understand realestate and I'm en appraiser and I understand the future worth of a dollar and I understand all of those things but the way it is being put on the tabls today, the way we're being made to looks it we do this we're this and if we do that we're that and I don't agree and I don't think we should ewer have arrived today with this posture. SP _` Reverend Gibson: 2 would like to offer a motion that we pass the budget with the thirty-five year funding, with the proviso that at the end of the year --no; with the proviso that a study be immediately be instituted, and that if, at the end of the year. we find it economically wise and expedient to re- turn to the twenty-year funding, that we, without hesitation, return. Mrs. Gordon: I want to know if the lawyer will approve that the recommendation of the motion that Father Gibson is making is a binding one. Is it one that can be relied upon, or not? what I am saying, really, is, can you legally stay with a twenty-year maximum time, adopting a one-year amortization period based upon a thirty-five year schedulel That's what I am asking you. Mr. Lloyd: The way you phrase the question I don't understand it. If you question is. can the proviso that Father Gibson rut in the ordinance be binding, the answer is yes. Mayor Ferre: Mat isn't it at all. What she said is --- Mrs. Gordon: "an you amend the twenty -year --- Mayor Ferre: What she is saying is. can you legally amend it and go from twenty years to thirty-five years amortiza- tion this year --- Mrs. Gordon: Just this year. Mayor Ferre: And is eat binding in perpetuity, or can the City Commission reverse its position next year and go back to twenty years? Mr. Lloyd: Certainly. Mrs. Gordon: Then why would you have to accept the ordinance to change it to a thirty-five year period at a11? Why not just accept the lower amortisation for the year. based upon special amendment to the ordinance? Mr. Lloyd: well. the problem is your budget is based upon. and your funding, provided for in the ordinance, of twenty years. Mrs. Gordon: That's right. but I am asking if you are amending ordinances you amend them according to what you are trying-- what you are saying has to be achieved in order to adopt the budget in its present form. which is of a certain amount and a certain allocation for the pension fund. Now you understand what 1 am saying. 1 am sure. SEP Si17S Mr. Lloyd: i understand whet you are saying, but your problem there is that what you are saying is attempt to keep the twenty-year funding in the ordinance, but don't fund it this year, or under fund it this year, and do that by an ordi- nance. If you do that you repeal by implication the twenty- year funding proposition. Mayor Ferret Por one year. Mr. Lloyd: Tor one year. Mrs. ©orlon: But you are not adopting thirty-five years. When you adopt the thirty-five year ordinance you are locked in. I don't think you'll revert back. Mayor Terre: What Rose is saying would be acceptable to me. You know what she is saying. You just call it by a different name, but as far as what it accomplishes —and I think what she ?,rf recommending is even better. What she is saying is, let's not cross the bridge. Let's not call it a thirty-five year amortisa- tion. Let's just say that instead of funding it by eleven million we are going to fund it by eight million for this year. Is that legal? Mr. Lloyd: well. this is what I have a question about. Mr. Plummer: If that's legal. you just bought my vote. Mrs. Lordon: Check that out. we will take a fifteen minute recess. Mr. Lloyd: A11 right. we will check that out and be back in fifteen minutes. BRIEF RECESS Mr. Lloyd: May I explain what the solution is, which Mr. Bailey actually worked out and in which I concur, and that is this: I apologise, but I was back there preparing the ordi- nance. The title of the ordinance will read --I will present to you the title of the ordinance, and then I can go back and finish doing the ordinances but this is the way it will be, and then I can give you a brief explanation. It will be an ordinance amend- ing certain subsections of the Miami City Bsployees Retirement Ordinance, etcetera, more particularly amending subsections 0.2 and S of Section 93 of said Chapter 2 and subsections 0.2 and B-- now these are the system ordinance and the plan ordinance. sections of the plan which provide for the twenty-year funding. Mr. Plummer: Setting these aside? Mr. Lloyd: eb, sir: it will read like this: Provided. however. that the City's liability contribution on the accrued liability will be on the basis for the fiscal year 197S-76 of a thirty-five year amortisation. 'That's all I say. 9-26-7S SEP S 1' • Mr. Plummier: 1* at you are saying is you are adopting the funding based on a concept of thirty-five years. Mr. Lloyd: What's all. Mr. Plummer, That I can't buy. Mr. Lloyd: Here is the --provided however, that for the 1975-76 fiscal year the city's accrued liability contribution shall be determined on a thirty-five year amortisation basis, for that year; for fiscal year 1975-76. It doesn't disturb the twenty-year period at all: it just says that you are going to pay eight million dollars instead of eleven million dollars in that year. Mr. Andrews: Could you remove the thirty-five years and substitute the dollars? Mr. Lloyd: Well, I'll agree; all right. How much is it? Mr. Plummer: Eight Million, one hundred thousand, one hundred and sixty dollars. Mr. Lloyd: Well, it will be: shall be determined on the basis of the sum of --- Mr. Plummer: Eight Million. One Hundred Thousand, one Hundred Sixty Dollars; is that correct? Mr. Andrews: But you have to cover it all. In addi- tion to the contribution it's eight million, seven, nine, eight, nine, ninety, to be consistent with the aillage ordinance. Nr. Plummer: I'll accept that. Mr. Lloyd: I don't like that one as well, but --- Mr. Plummer: I don't like it either. but I'll accept it. For the point of not having to make you go back to your secre- tary again, would you please read to sse the common language as it appears. Forget about Subsection e, b, 4, 5, and 7. Tell me the language that you're going to use in the body. Mayor Perces Now listen everybody, so we don't have any arguments later on. Nr. Lloyd: The language in the title is which will be the same in the body of the ordinances Provided, however, that for the I97S-76 fiscal year the city's accrued liability contri- bution shall be determined on the basis of the sum of i8,380,798. Mr. Plummers That I can buy. Rev. Gibson: Let we ask this, Mr. Mayor. The accrued liability should be determined by, why should, that word is rather awkward. Why can't we have the word... Mr. Plummer, But Wendell, the di e:sconce is I can't buy that. Mo. I can't buy that. Mayor !osres What's the difference ot what you call it but it accow- 'dishes the same thing. SEP II 11111 Mr. AM,wss ... The figure we're wing is t'eort in itseit the carved liability. The accrued 1 iabi ii ty is a figure less than tt of everything incirdinq... This contribution takes caw Mr. liters Oh, , I see what you wean. t see your wording, t think i can change it and it will satisfy Mendell. If what you say ink Provided, however, that for the 1975-76 fiscal year the city's contribution shall be $8. 00_______ Mr. Andrews That's not the nuMber, we'll have to get the nuMber... Mr. Plummer' Nell, whatever the number is. Now you take out of there accrued liability the city's contribution shall be id, 700,. Mev. Gibson: Wouldn't it be better if we put time rather than money? Mr. Plummets but you see, it's not acceptable to me, Father, the time. Wendell, if we were to use dollars what is the city's required contribution for the 35 years? Mr. Wendell baileys "X" number of dollars if you place in there on 35 years will not be in accord with the ordinance which requires 20 years. That's what I'm say- ing. Mr. Plummets Provided, however, that we acknowledge that we're not doing it. Mr. bailey: Well then you don't even have to change the ordinance if you just want to put in fewer dollars. That's what it amounts to but you will not be in compliance with the ordinance. Mayor Ferret You see, that's the problem. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, it is very simple. Let me say really what is on ay mind and maybe you can understand why I'm pointing to the objection that i have: that Ok. I'll concur that $3,000.000 less go this year but if next year it shows that 20 years is reasonable you know you've got to know that you can conceivably come up with six. Mr. Lloyds This is the very reason why we made it this way. If you want to put in only I'm happy to put it only: 1975-76 fiscal year only the city's accrued liability contribution shall be determined on the basis of a 35 year amortisation basis. Mr. Andrews: The dollars to be included will be calculated on a... Mr. Lloyds I'll be happy► with that one. The proposed amendment is as follows, this amendment will be to the appropriate portion of the pension Ordinance, those sections which are applicable and it will be amended by an addition of the follow- ing clause: Provided, however, that for the 1975-76 fiscal year only the dollar amount of the city's accrued liability contribution shall be calculated on a 35 year amortisation basis. Mayor Ferree Ok. that sounds good to me. The preceding motion was introduced by Nev. Gibson„ seconded by Commissioner tlsboso and passed and adopted by a unanimous vote. Mayor Ferret Now Mr. Lloyd, listen carefully now so we don't go off on tangents. You have a job to do in putting this to writing. In the meantime I would appreciate it if you would leave one of your assistants hers. And I since we have now passed this in intention, I would now like to start passing the other things that we have to pass whilst you're working which is the union agreements with all the groups, the Appropriations Ordinance, the 'liilage Ordinance and all that stuff and then we'll pass your thing whenever you have it ready hopefully to the next half hour. crievrianutognitswalutz-avvamet its adoptions Rr.110LUTM NO. 75-907 IMO moves A AMOlulTZON AIR1I0Rr*II1G AID D1RiCTr1SG Till CITY IIhNMU TO f01 U INTO AN A SNDIDIIT TO A COUre?rVI SANOAINAl4 AOSEININT BY AID •i- MEN TVS CM Or MKT AND TVS IDIPLOYii OlOANDATiON MOWN AS Tilt UAW. memo CITY NKOMO LOCAL OS4 AMMAN fOiRATICNI Or STUN, COUNTV AND llwl1CZPAL DIPWViii. ArL.Cio, UPON ITS MTr- FICMall AND SUBJECT WI Ifli TIM AND C imn iaii Or atoi WNW N IT AS SAT PORTA IN INN MACAW COPY 1IDiVOP. 1 t/ SEP Z 6 IRS of resolution, a ltted hero and on file e it Clerk.) beitq seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the foilowing vote- AYESa CoMissioner Manolo Robots; CoNNissi.ner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer. Jr. Vice -Mayor tore Oordon Mayor Maurice A. Force IIC : None 3. C!CT t 1 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Oibmon, who moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 75-90B A RESOLUTION AUTWORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE AARGAININQ AGREEMENT BY AND BE- TWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE ORGAI1!ZATIGN KNOWN AS THE FRATERNAL CODER OF POLICE, UPON iTs RATIFICATION AND SUBJECT TO THS TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SUCH AGREEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED COPY THEREOF. (here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Coemissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 44 COLLECTIVE Bk. GR1 U 1G AGREEVIT GENERAL EMPLOYEES- ASSOCIATION The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-909 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BY AND BE- TifEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, UPON ITS RATIFICATION AND SUB- JECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SUCH AGREEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED COPY THEREOF. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Mento Reboso Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon ygr-Maurice A. Ferre WOKS: None. y• LLE e, �)1i t IRGimGAG - F p F l- t( .LocAL 7 The following resolution was treduced by ss over son, moo its adoptions LION NO. 76-910 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING NE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER MO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE TIVE BARGAINING AGISMINOT SY AND SE- MEN THE CITY 0! IMAM/ AND THE EMPLOYEE onamf lt0N KNOW AS THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PIKE PIGI1 ERi, AFL-CIO, LOCAL NO. 587 UPON ITS MTII'IC#TtoN AND SUBJECT TO TM TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SUCH AGP EVEIIT AS SET POEM tN TM ATTACHED COPY 1Umor. Mere follows body of resolution, omitted bore and on file in the Mime of the City Clerk.) 14 SEP 2$ 1175 si beingseneission+ar adopted by the following vQtCe► ATM • Commissioner Meneto Reboso CoeSaiseioner May.) T . 4ore Gibson CoI~uissioner J. L. Plunner, Jr. Vice•Mayor Moss Gordon Mayor Metrics A. Ferro NOES L.__ t't CTIVE BARGAMIG AGREEVIT - the ion was passed and None. i ATtc f/UPLAITSA Asiocikylmt The following reeolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who mowed its mdoptione NO. 7 5-911 A RESOLUTION AUT ORZZtNG AND DIRECTING THE CITY MAN At R TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE bARGAINIWG AGREEMENT BY AND BE - MEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE SANITATION EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, UPON ITS RATIFICATION AND SUBJECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SUCH AGREEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED COPY THEREOF. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYi : Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None. Fi CAL YEAR 19/5-lb AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1976, PROVIDING THAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE, OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING PROVISIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN COUPLICT HEREWITH, DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AND BY A POUR- FIFTHS VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OP THE CITY COMMISSION, DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THIS ORDINANCE ON 7140 SEPARATE DAYS. Was introduced by Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson for adoption as en emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of read- ing same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. N0dC'Sz None. A NBENT: None. A NBIUNUNGs None. Whereupon the Commission on seconded by Commissioner Gibson, vote: AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, NORM None. MUM None. JAMMING: None. motion of CO misstoner Reboso and adopted said ordinance by the following Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. 0IDfNAN S WAS OESL ZIATEQ MINA i NO. 8464. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record asmd announced that copies were available to the members of the Ci.ty Commission and to the public. SEP 2I1V5 AN 0401 D PtIItN€3 AwND D11SiGNATING TM(C TA t1AL LIMITS OP TIDE CITY OAF' 14tAMI FIXING THE MXLLA GE AND LEVYING TAXES iN T CtTY'OP MIAMI, I`Lt)LlIDA, POI! THE PUUCM YEAR SEGINNZNG 0CWSfilt 1, 197S, AND END1N0 mom SCR 10, 1970, PROVIDING THAT IF ANT SCION, CLAUSE OR SUS.. SECTION MALL EC DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT B EALL NOT AFPOCT THE REMAINING PROVISIONS: DECLARING IIING THIS ORDINANCE TO SE AN EMERGENCY MIASMRE, AND SY A POI/1144 M VOTE OP THE MEMBERS OF THE C,7TY Ci.MMISSION DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIRE- MENT OF READING 7 Ktg Ot*h1NANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS. Was introduced Ly Commissioner Rebosc .nd seconded by Commissioner Gibson, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispecsa ng with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which Wav agreed to by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8465. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis- sion and to the public. 1 � APQ!PRIAT I OHS - _ (1454, 852) FEDERAL. R'/E UE WARM FUNDS AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS RECEIVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,454,852 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1976, PROVIDING THAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE, OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING PROVISIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES. OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, DECLARING THIS ORDIN- ANCE TO SE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AND SY A FOUR -FIFTHS VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIRE - 'OF READING THIS ORDINANC: ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS. Was introduced by Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, for adoption as an emergency treasure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Hanolo Neboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by time following vote - AYES: Commissioner Hanel* Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice•Meyor Rose Gordon Mayor Naurioe A. Ferro NOM: None. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis- sion and to the public. 1j SEP 6 SIRS 101 The following resolution war irntrid d by CoMminsioner Nsboso, who moved its sdoptione AYES* tflll Af ALL OUTSTAND NG CITY Of MZAHI MATZOH 1, 1977. (There follows body of rQoeiwtt , amitttd hare and on file in the Office of the City Cleric. being seconded by Comissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and the following votes Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner (fir.) Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer. Jr. Vice -Mayor Moe Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Force NOES: None. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who moved its adoption* RESOLUTION NO. 76-913 A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING THE SUM OF $ 3, 025, 001 FROM THE TRUST FUND OF THE CITY OP MIAMI TO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDS FOR EMPLOYEE COST OF LIVING INCREASE APPROPRIATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION TO SEGIN OCTOBER 1, 197S. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES* Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer. Jr. Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Terre NOES* None. 11. sERV1CE FEE - illILDEIG. PERMITS The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Mboso, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 76.914 A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING S3.023,000 'PM THE SPECIAL OBLIGATION CAPITAL =PROW:MEW SOND FUND - UNALLOCATED ACCOUNT TO THE CON- VENTION CENTER PPOJRCT TO SUPPLEMENT AVAILABLE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted !were and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the adopted by the following vet*- AYES* Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner (Meev.1 Theodore Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer. Jr. Vice -Mayor Mose Ooedon Mayor Maurice A. Pierre NOSM: None lution was passed and 14i SEP 2 6 In APPROPRIA E $135, (b -15 Was int NOES None. $18q,1 CD MENA TME i ONte TER POLt• MON CONTROL At'T► 1?576. rissiaesrr Mboso and secon d by Commissioner its first reading by title by the followinq votet stoner Manolo hoboso stoner (Nev.) Theodore Gibson stoner J. L. Plummer Vice -Mayor /loee Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Forte The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis- sion and to the public. 14, ORD, 6a/1-ARTICLE XXIX-AUMI4[STRATIn3-"CERTIFICATES ROUND CE FEE -IILDItG PETITS AN ORDINANCEENTITLED- AM EMERGENCY ORDINANCE SING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPRE- HENSIVE ZONING ORD/MANCCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE XXIX - ADMINISTMTION - "CERTIFICATES REQUIRED". MY PROVIDING THAT THE INSPBCTTION AND SERVICE FEE POR SAID CERTIFICATES SMALL BE $20100 EFFECTIVE OCTOSER 1, 197S; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES. CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT. INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING A SEVERAS?LITY PROVISION. Was introduced by Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson. for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days. which was agreed to by the following vote - AM: Commissioner Manolo Rebus© Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Pose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: New. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Baboso and seconded Commissioner Gibson. adopted said ordinance by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Mose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Fevre NOES: None. ID oiptuAwcE NAS DESIGNATED ORpUIIpcs NO. 8467. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies wore available to the members of the City Commuis- sion and to the public. by SEP 26175 ss .r- • AN olditNANCZ AMMO ICSN '3, !), 7 A1iD SOP OMNANCII NOIi. 7723, 7502 AND •109, IT INPEAL#NG TMZ FIDC SCNEDULE At CONTA#NED TMENUN AND ENACTING A NEN PEN SCHEDULE NEPNAi 1NO ALL ORDINANCES, 1M$OWT#ON/ ON PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONPLtCT NEPENITN, CON. TAMING A KVKAAbtLITY PROVISION; DISPENSING WITH T I RD2U/NZ. MINT of WADING THIS ORDINANCE ON TWO SCPAAAT't RATS SY A VOTE Ole NOT LESS TNAN POUN-PIPTNS OP THE RENDUS OP THE CON/MUM PigV DZNO AN mums DATE. Kos introduced by C©mmissionsr hoboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote. AYR1 e Commissioner Menlo Neboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Nev.) Theodore Gibson Vlas-Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Reboso and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote- ATESt Commissioner Hanoi* Reboeo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Nev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOESt None. 5h1ta ONSINANCS WAS OSSIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8.46688. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis- sion and to the public. 16, NEID MIAMI CI1Y MINES' IETUFAIT SYSTEM $ PIAN-Ctnr's G3NTRIBUTION Nr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if you want under discussion, I was going to do it under the vote/ I want it understood and for the record that I amdoing this for time sole purpose of allowing tbs administration and the Pension boards that needed breathing space of one year to get facts in hand so that a point can be substant- iated as to the correctness of where this fund is. I want that on the record. Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, so there is no misunder- standing of any kind this year I'm not going to make any inquiry but I'a going to rely on those boards jointly doing this and I'll have whatever input it takes at the board level but let the board get this information and let them digest it. I'll get it simultaneously rather than involvement of the Manager vetting this information separately or in another fashion. Mr. Plummer. Mill, Mt. Andrews, I'm going to tell you something and I hope it is understood that I have always had a very good working relationship with you, I will continue to do so and I think for the benefit of this city we must do this to estab- lish the proper posture. Mr. Andrews: Oh yes, I'm just, there's no question that it should be done and it should be an audit and I believe by an audit other than Icruse and Ling because they submit the submit the annual audit and I think this is more than just an annual audit. This is a rather thorough review and it should be done jointly by both boards commissioning some audit firm to do this and let's go about getting it done and get it done at an early date. Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, a clarification, Mr. Lloyd. i want this under. standing that in no way are we adopting any amortisation schedule other than what has presently and always been the 20 years. Mr. Lloyds Yes, sir, that has not been changed. Mr. Plummer. Thank you, sir. Mrs. Cordons I wonted to ask you, Nt. Nanager. whether it isn't also in cedar that SEP t1 5 the City Cbiri'iasiern aotd c asaisaLaner r and you as r heve an actuarial aedit in addition to t~he boards' berawu I don't think that y as Manager have to rely upon any infanta lied to the boards alone and t would reaos►- Mend, respectfully recoMmend that the boards proceed in what is the board's intent- ion to do anyway but that you as Manager proceed to do the same thing on behalf of the City of MiaMi Commission. Ok? t want to say check and double deck it. That is very important in this particular instance because of the interests of the part les of being diverse AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CEtiTAIN SUBSECTIONS of THL MIAMI CITY EMPLOYEE0' RETIREMENT EYS?EM (tNtti/NA1NCE NO. 2230, DECEMBER 6, 1939, AS AMENDED) AND Tit MMAM2 CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT PLAN, ORDINANCE NO. 5624, MAY 2, 1956, AS AMENDED). AS APPEARING IN CODIFICATION FOR AS A PART OF CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE OP THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, 1957, AS AMENDED, MORE PARTICULARLY AMErND/NG SUBSECTIONS (d) 2 AND (e) OP SECTION 93 Or $AID CHAPTER 2 AND SU83ECTtMS (d) 2 AND (e) OP SUBSECTION 110 OF SAID CHAPTER 2' PRCVIDINC THAT FOR TINE 1975-76 rt$CAL YEAR ONLY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OP THE CITY'; ACCRUED LIBXLiTY CONTRIBUTION SHALL BE CALCULATED ON A 35- YEAR AMORTIZATION BASIS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECT- IONS OR PAINTS THEREO? IN CONFLICT, iNSO?AR AS THEY ARM IN CONFLICT' CONTAI1it1NG A SEVERABILITY PROVISION' DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE; DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT Of READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummier, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. ?erre NOES' None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson vice -Mayor Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINA310E NO. 8469. Tht City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis- lion and to the public. ON ROLL CALL' Mayor Ferrel In expressing my vote I went to preface it by saying that my posit- ion has been made clear throughout these hearings and I want to say that next year if I'm here to vote may position will I think be the same and it is a matter of principle and philosophy as to how I approach government and I as very happy the; Me that we've been able to find out a solution acceptable to ail o! MO MVO. S'R iMNY to do so to get over the immediate problem because none of us want to increase taxes or re- duce services. I think we've accomplished that and I commend all of you. I think this is another good example of how we have a good functioning commission that can work things out and I certainly look forward to working with all of you in the future. Therefore, I vote yes. Rev. Gibson' fir. Mayor, yesterday in di:seussint this appropriations ordinance we were very concerned about the retirees coming back here every year with their hat in their hand. Mr. Mayor. I would hope that we can agree right now with a ;Notion or otherwise that all of the organisations like lire, Police and the regular employees and the Manager, a committee to study so that these retirement boards along with the Manager will boar the responsibility of doing something about these retirees. Me ja t cannot afford to let that thing hang coming here with their hat in their hand and hercav they get, you know. Not intentionally, but it happens. of hell is paved with good intentions. i want them to that. Can we get that much resolved right now' hose elderly people t have no muscle You know even the road to: heaven instead of Mrs. Gordon. That line of thinking, i would like our Law Department to think about a lump sun rather than a percentage per employee because of the very evident fact that a lump sum to those who are making very little might have greater value but doesn't have to be a percentage or can it be a lump sum per retiree? i don't want an answer right now I just want you to give that approach some more thought. Rev. Gibson. Mr. Manager, just so my mind could be eased otherwise i think i would not have served my purpose on this commission, tell us the commission for the record who ought to be on that commnittee right now. Mr. Andrews. Well, i think that a member of each of the employee organizations and at least one representative from each one of the boards and myself. Rev. Gibson. All right. Mr. Andrews: Oh, and certainly a representative of the retirees. Rev. Gibson: Alright, somebody from the retirees. somebody from each board and system and the Manager. Now whoever those people are I hope that at the next meet- ing you... Sir, let me hold you responsible... Tell us, Mr. Manager. Mr. Andrews: What I believe is you should have a representative of each of the employee organizations. You should have one representative from the retirees, one representative from each of the boards that can report back to the board, myself and t neglected to include the City Attorney because we can't do anything that isn't legal. Rev. Gibson: All right. If you were to give me those names at the very next meeting I'll offer those names as the committee so that they could get on and the buck will stop being passed at that point. That is I won't pass no more bucks. ADJOURIME3T: Thee being no Wallet bu,itateSs to came beio'ce the City Commission the meeting zt'as ad jowiued at 12:30 O'CCoch P.M. Mau/ice A. Fetne MAYOR ATTEST: H. 0. Sou.theu CITY CLERK Ralph G.,.�r�.Ongie ASvrS?AN CITY CLERK r criv OP IVVAMI DOCUMENT INDEX N0 INICUMDC I*N?ZRtCATt* !MINTING OA?$t September 26, 1975 COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT At?THoRtZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREE MENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPI.()YEE oR(ANIZATION KNOWN AS THE. MIAMI FLORIDA cITY EMPLOYEES LOCAL (154 AMERICAN FEDERATION of STATE, COUNTY, AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES, AFL -CI(►. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A ('OLLE('TIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CIFV or MIAMI ANt) THE EMPLOYEE 0R(;ANIZATI*'N KNi)WN AS THE FRATERNAL. ORDER of POLICE. At'THoR I Z I N(; THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT To A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE t)RGANI ZAT t0N KNOWN AS THE GENERAL. EMPLOYEES ASSOCI AI' ION . AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS. AFL,CTO, LOCAL NO. 587 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ACREEMENT BY ANI) BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE SANITATION EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION. INTENT TO ('ALL, FnR REDEMP'TLoN OF ALL OUT- STANDING SPECIAL. OKL1CATION CAPITAL IMPROVE- MENT BONUS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI ON SEPTEMBER 1. 1'I76. ALL()CAT I N(• THE SUM of $ 4.('25 FROM THE TRUST FUND OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO THE GENERAL. FUND OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE (+F PROVIDING FUNoS FOR EMPLOYEE COST OF LIVING INCREASE APPROPRIATED BY THE CITY cOMM I s S I oN . AL.LO('AT I NG $I.025,(c(((( FOKM THE SPECIAL of(L.t(;AT1oN CAPITAL. IMPROVENENT BOND FUND- UNALLoCATEI) ACCOUNT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER PR1),IE('T To SUPPLEMENT AVAILAIILE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS. �I�tifta AMON R-75-9U7 R- 75-908 R-75-909 R-75-910 R-75-911 R-75-912 R--7S-y1 I R-75-91M A[Tlttll/� COWNt 0017 75-9()7 75-908 75-909 75-910 75-911 75-912 7S-913 75-914