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MINUTES REGULAR MEETING
CITY VISION OF M AMl1 FLORIDA
RETAIN F'IRt4 or HASKINS & 'SELLS FOR ACCOUNTING AND
AUDITING PROCEDURES FOR: RETIREMENT SYSTEM RbARD
PERSONAL APPPARANCE or CLARX COMK, FLORIbA POWER ANb
LIGHT CO. REQUEST CITY ATTORNEY TO WITHDRAW MOTION
PLACING FP&L FRANCHISE PEES IN ESCROW AND URGING
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION ETC.
REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO STAY CITY ENVIRONMENTAL
PRESERVATION ORDINANCES FOR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO
RESOLV PROSLEMS, ETC.
4. OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED WORKaiSOUTH
PINEMOUNT SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5242 "C" and
SR-5242 "S"
5. OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED WORK -FASHION
aANITRP.Y SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5402 C
6, OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED WORK -SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4342
J.
GRANT PERMISSION TO MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHOR
I'T'Y TO CONSTRUCT INTERCEPTOR VENT STATION -LOT C,
ONE, E I LVERSON AND TATUM'S SUB.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF DR. DYER, METRO TRAFFIC AND
TRANSPORTATION DEPT.-RAPID TRANSIT ALIGNMENT AND
ROUTE.
PUBLIC HEARING - SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION, N.W.
20TH STREET & 14TH AVENUE.
ib. PROCLAMATIONS, PLAQUES, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION
PM
11. ADOPT PLANNING STUDY "NORTHEAST COMMUNITY COMPREHEN-
SIVE PLANNINGSTUDY".
12. :,r'114) ARTICLE IV, SECTION 20, PARAGRAPH 3 AND 4 -
"RESTAURANT SEATING":
13. OFFFICIAL DEFERRAL OF ITEM 9 AND SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE
SITE SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION
14. ,! CtiA_:GE OF ZONING: NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE
I3ETWFEN TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE,
MOPATORtIUM ON PARTION, ETC.
15. AMEND ORDINANCE 6871: R-C DISTRICTS - DENSITY, LOT
AREA AND WIDTH REQUIREMENTS.
16. PBRSONAL APPEARANCE EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF HELP
COUNCIL - RICKY THOMAS.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF MRS. JQYCE DIEFFENDERFER-
DEMONSTRATION OF NEW VOTING MACHINES AND PROCEDURES
t TO REPLACE EXISTING EQUIPMENT.
DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER SITE PURCHASE FEINBERG
PROPERTY, DISCUSSION OF ARCHITECTURAL PROPOSALS, ETC,
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO.
M 75496
M 754697
M 75-699
R 75-699
R 75-700
R 75-701
R 75-702
DISCUSSION
M 75-703
M 75-704
DEFERRED
R 75-705
FIRST READING
DEFERRED
M 75-706
M 75-707
M 75-708
M 75-709
8429
M 75-710
DISCUSSION
R 75-711
M 75-712
11-13`
13
14
14
15
16-20
21-34
34
34-41
41
42
43-55
56
58
58-62
62-80
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MINA FLORIDA
INVESTIGATE I'EASISILtTSt or MOVIM CITE CW `ICES TO
GUSMAN RAIL RIVING.
20, ,` ACCEPT PttItMTNARY 46 WEST FtAO ,ER STREET MINI-PAi t
LANDSCAPE PLANS.
(y PERSONAL 1 PI..ARANCE OP moVIS FRODUCE s Ce MACK SUNDAY
REQUESTING PERMISSION TO USE THE ORANGE FOWL STADIUM.
22. PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF JAMES F. ECKHAIRT ENFORCEMENT
OF CITY ORDINANCE FOR OCCtiPATIONAL LICENSES FOR WASTE
AND TRASH COMPANIES.
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23. D SCUSSIVN OF THE QUALITY OF FOOD AT CITY OWNED BUILD-
" INCS LEI4SP'1) AS CONCESSIONS TO RESTAURANT OPERATORS.
24. 1.1 AWARD BID -CLEANING SERVICES FOR ORANGE BOWL STADIUM,
i# MARIhT STADIUM AND BASEBALL STADIUM.
2 • t WARD BID - ORANGE BOWL WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS 1975,
APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS.
26. AWARD BID
P'.;. 1E II -
27. '- AWARD RAID
UTILITIES
26,
29.
3G.
- CITY HALL AIR CONDITIONING IMPROVEMENTS
1975
- BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE II PROJECT 3,
AND SITE DEVELOPMENT - REJECTION OF BIDS.
SEEK DONATION OF TREES FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK.
AWTJJi BID -BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE II - LANDSCAPING
ADD I;.RIGATION REJECTION OF ALL BIDS.
AWARD BID - PARKS SHELTERS AND COMFORT STATIONS - 197
13 . ` ACQT IS:I ON OF RIVERSIDE BAPTIS CHURCH PROPERTY -
AUTHORIZE MkNAGER TO DRAW CONTRACT.
32.
CONSIDER REQUEST OF THE INTERNATIONAL CENTER OF
IDA FOR ALLOCATI0N OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING
JLTNPS AT THE TIME THE'COMMISSION CONSIDERS FEDERAL
REVENUE SHARING FUND ALLOCATIONS.
33. s PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF VICKI ALBORNOZ TO REQUEST
F7JNDING, OF "BALLET FOLKLORICO OF COLOMBIA" .
35.
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF CORNELIUS J. HOLLAND REGARDING
CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATION FOR ELECTRICIAN AND COM-
PLAINT REGARDING REGISTERS AND HIRING PRACTICES.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF NORA SWAN, CHAIRPERSON OF
BICENTENNIAL COMMITTEE; ALLOCATING $6, 500 FOR PROJECT
AFF IPAATIVE ACTION PROGRAM, DISCUSSION OF ITEMS DIS-
CUSSED AT MEETING OF JULY 30 AND ADOPTION OF FULL
DOCUMENT.
?7, 1 AMEND ORD. 2230 (RETIREMENT SYSTEM) PERSONS DECEASED
PRIOR TO SIGNING BE CONSIDERED RETIRED; PROVIDE 90%
PAYMENT TO MEMBERS SPOUSE, CLARIFYING 30 DAY REQUIRE-
MET, ETC.
38. 4 SISTER CITY PROGRAM, INCLUDING VILLA NRM08A, CAPITOL
OF THE STATE OF TA8ASCO, MEXICO IN STSTER CITY FROG.
M 75-716
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
R 75-717
R 75-718
8430
R 75-719
DISCUSSION
M 75-720
M 75-721
DISCUSSION
M 75-722
R 75-723-A
R 75-723-B
M 75-724
M 75-725
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
M 75-726
M 75-727
R 75-728
8431
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97
97-99
99-103
103-104
104-108
108-109
109-113
113
114-115
115-116
116-118
118-125
125-127
127-137
137-141
M 75-729 142
ITEM N
3,
40.
41.
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI,. FLORIDA
SUBJECT
LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.
AMEND APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR REPAIRS
TO LAWRENCE STORM PUMPING STATION NO. 31.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK ORANGE BOWL STADIUM RESTROOM
REMODELING 1974.
42.. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK .. CENTRAL DRAINAGE PttO3ECT E-33
4:3.
44,
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - S.W. 8TH STREET BEAUTIFICATZOt
PHASE I.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - PARKS HARD SURFACE COURTS-1974
45. ORDERING RESOLUTION, DELAWARE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE-
MENT Sr-5390 C and SR-5390 S.
46. f; ORDERING RESOLUTION BISCAYNE WEST HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
H•-4390
47. GRANT FREE USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM - MIAMI DADE
COMMUNIYT COLLEGE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS BASEBALL PRACTICE.
46. AU1HORIZE TRIAL RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT FOR CITY AND
DADE COUNTY GOLFING FACILITIES.
49. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF QUIT CLAIM DEED - GORDON
p BROWNING AND OLGA BROWNING
CLAIM SETTLEMENT - JEANETTE T. WOLFSON, ATTORNEY
RICHARD A. SADOW.
3.t
51.
52.
54.
CLAIM SETTLEMENT - CAROLE LINDSEY AND ATTORNEY JOSEPH
T. WOODWARD
ENTER INTO AGREEMENT - MANPOWER PLANNING COUNCIL FOR
DADE AND MONROE MIAMI RECREA%ION SUPPORT PROGRAM FOR
DISADVANTAGED YOUNG RESIDENTS.
=.D'IERTISE AND RECEIVE PROPOSALS FOR PROFESSIONAL
DESIGN SERVICES FOR DIXIE COMMUNITY PARK.
APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
AWARD READY -MIX CONCRETE.
AWARD BID - FORTY TONS OF FERTILIZER.
57 AWARD BID - EMULSIFIED ASPHALT
50. AWARD) BID - ADDITIONAL FENCING FOR MARINE STADIUM
i STORAGE AREA.
59. AWARD BID - TWO PORTABLE EKG TELEMENTARY PACKAGES FOR
FIRE DEPARTMENT.
5o.
AWARD BID - PUMPS AND STARTERS FOR DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION
61. AWARD BID - CLEANING SERVICES AT ORANGE BOWL, MARINE.
STADIUM AND MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM.
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO.
PAGE NO.
b1SCUSSION
8432
R 75-130
R 75-731
R 75-732
R 75-733
R 75-734
R 75-735
R 75-736
R 75-737
R 75-738
R 75-739
R 75-740
R 75-741
R 75-742
R 75-743
R 75-744
R 75-745
R 75-746
R 75-747
R 75-748
R 75-479
R 75V
142»143
143
144
144
144
145
145
145
146
146
147
147
148
148
149
149
149
150
150
151
151
151
152
ITEM NO.
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63.
64.
65.
66.
67.
68.
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71.
72.
74.
75
76.
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INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
AWARD BID - S.W. PIR T STREET PAVtNO PROJECT.
AWARD BID - WEST ORAPELAND SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
SR-5387 C atP. 8
AWARD BID - S.W. 8TH AVENUE SIbEWALtt IMPtioVENEN'.
SKI-4387
AMEND ORDINANCE 8345, FEDERAL REVENUE SEARING PUNDS
ANT) APPROPRIATE $25,000 TO THE ACCOUNT O DOUGLAS
GAPDENS JEWISH HOME & H08PITAL FOR THE AGED.
AMEND ORDINANCE 8342, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM WYNWOOD
COMMUNIT'.' DAY CARE CENTER TO EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF
HELP COMMUNITY COUNCIL PROJECT YOUTH.
AUTHORIZE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI TO ADMINISTER THE FACILITY KNOWN AS "GUSMAN
HALL"; P. 1DING FOR BOARD, ETC.
RESOLUTION PROGRAMMING PROCEEDS FROM SALE OF VIRGINIA
KEY LAND TO PURCHASE OF "FEINBERG TRACT" FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION CENTER.
a:LOLL-LOt PROGRAMMING UNENCUMBERED BALANCE OF
$4,247,065.35 CONVENTION CENTER GENERAL OBLIGATION
BONDS FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY KNOWN AS FEINBERG
TRACT.
ALLOCATE $15, 330 TO EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF HELP
CCMMTJNITY COUNCIL PROJECT YOUTH.
DEFERRING ITEM 12, JULY 31 AGENDA, CHANGES OF ZONING
AREA NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN
^IGERTAIL AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE.
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION 11b
A 75052
ft 75453
R 75=754
8433
8434 155
8435 155-156
PAGE NO. ,
133
R 75-755
156
R 75-756 156
R 75-757 157
R 75-758 157
RESOLUTION PROVIDING NO BUILDING PERMITS BE ISSUED
IN AREA GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING NORTHEASTERLY
OF AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND
o0"TH BAYSHORE DRIVE UNTIL APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSIOR 75-759
AUTHORIZE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO RECONSIDER THE AREA
NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL
AVENUE AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE TO DETERMINE IF THE
P.REA SHOULD BE PLACED IN A SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT.
RESOLUTIONS CONFIRMING MOTIONS MADE AT MEETING OF
JULI 17, 1975.
AMEND ORD. 2230 TO INCLUDE POSITIONS OF ASSISTANT
CITY CLERK, ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF CIVIL
SERVICE BOARD AND ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE PLANNING
BOARD.
R 75-760
R 75-761
R 75-762
R 75-763
R 75-764
R 75-765
R 75-766
R 75-767
DEFERRED
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT WITH PAUL WEBER AS
CLAIMS SUPERVISOR, R 75-768
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158
158-160
160
160
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY MISSION OF MIAI % FLORIDA
ITEM NO. SUI JECT
77. REQUEST CITY ATTOANEY TO W/THDAAW MOT/ON PLACING
Ft,ORIDA PoWER & LIMIT FRANCHISE FEES IN ESCROW
puATHEA URGING PUELIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO EXPEDITE
PAANCH/SE FEES AND AUtE Cif QUESTION.
78. ACCEPTING DEED To nCst1SMAN HALL".
79. MERRILL—STEVENS LEASE.
80. MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE RENTAL FEE OF EAYFRONT PARK
AUDITORIUM AUGUST 23, 1975 FOR MEETING OF CIVIC ACT-
ION ION OP FLORIDA.
81.
CITY ATTORNEY RtP0RT ON F.E.O. CONDEMNATION
ORDINANCE OR
RESOLUTION NO.
It 75-769
R 75-770
DISCUSSION
M 75-771
DISCUSSION
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161
161
161
162
162
MINA CF REGULAR METING OFF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
A
ON THE 3isT DAY OF JULY, THE CITY COMMISSI a ► .'F MIAMI, FLORIDA Ili`
AT ITS alGULAR MEETING PLACE IN THE LITY HALL, P 1 PAN APERICAN llRIVE,
MIAMI, FLORIDA IN REGULAR SESSION,
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 9:10 O'CutgA.M. BY MAYOR
NL t,Rice A. FERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE'LOMMISSION FOUND TO
BE PRESENT:
I SS I ONER MANOLO REBOSO
+IISSI ER E GORDON.
COMMISSIONER ( :HEODOREGIBSON
IC. Y J. L. - , .
MAYOR MAURICE A, RRE
p W. ANDREWS, CITY MANAGER
A. P. CROUCH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER
JOHN S. LLOYD, CI� A NEY
H D II�RRNN, LITY K
RALPH b, UNGIEE ISSISTANTLITY CLERK
AN INVOCATION WAS DELIVERED BY REVEREND GIBSON WHO THEN LED THOSE
PRESENT IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,
A MOTION TO WAIVE THE READING OF THE MINUTES WAS INTRODUCED AND
SECONDED AND WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY,
ALSO POEM
JUL 311975
RETAIN FIRM OF HASKINS & SELLS FOR ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING PROCEDURES
FOR: RETIREMENT SYSTEM BOARD
Mr. Edmond J. Gong: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, commissioners. As you will recall
in J'ar.e you approved my appointment as the legal counsel to the Miami Employees
Pension System, the Police and Fire System. We are working to understand the
system and to get facts and under the ordinance establishing this system splitting
it away from the plan. You permitted the trustees to appoint any professional
help that we would need to assist us in administering this pension fund and we
had at the last meeting a unanimous resolution passed to have the attorney engage
a CPA to assist in going over our bank reports and or investment reports and
t yelp :::s to understand the figures and I have talked with the firm of Haskins
dna Sells. They have submitted an engagement letter, they would be happy to repre-
sent us and I would recommend...
Mayor Ferre: This is your recommendation?
Mr. Gong: Ycs, it is.
Mayor Ferre; And I would imagine the fees are the standard fees that are charged
for this type of thing.
Mr. Gong: That is correct. There I've stated, Mr. Mayor, in the engagement letter,..
Mr. Plummer: I have a letter, Mr. Mayor, which I will submit.
Mayor Ferre; Did your board officially vote for that and are they on record?
Mr. Gong; Yes, they area
Mr. Plummer; We were unanimous.
Mr. Gong; Correct,
Mr. Plume
Mrs. Oordont t
it, The amount
tnation.. .
I
t' ll mace a motion
have no o ►ieotion, t
of the fees that are
Mr. Mayor, allowing this.
lust warted` Mr. Mayor.. Ok, 1'11 second
in the letter, that isn't priviledged inform
MY. Gongs Not at all. it's public.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok then, if we may have a copy.
Mrtort fifes, that's the original for the
Thank you.
Mrs.* Gordon.
The fallowing notion was ihtroduoed by Commissioner Plummer, who
toVed its adoptions
MTV* NO. 7S-696
A MOTION APPROVING TIC ACTION OP THE CITY OP MIAMI EMPLOYEES TIBE -
IIEN'i' SYSTEM BOARD TO ENGAGE THE ACCOUNTING FIRM OP HASKINS & SELLS
FOR PERFORMING SERVICES OP AN ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING NATUPE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor ferre.
NOES: NOno.
ABSENT: None.
PERSONL APPEARANCE
LM K OQK
L.ORIDA t'OWER & LIGHT CO.
JUL 311975
REQUEST TY ATTORNEY TO WITHDRAW MOTI�N
PLACING r &L FRANCHISE FEES IN ESCROW
URGING PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION ETC.
M yar Ferre: We have Clark Cook who is here from Florida Power and Light who
prnh 1c11 that he wants to share with us.
t'rs. Gordon: While Mr. Cook is coming forward may I tell you that the Affirmative
Action items that we have here, have they been submitted to our Affirmative Action
agent for scrutiny before we vote on it? If not I think that she should have that
opportunity.
Mayor Ferre: Have they been submitted to whom?
Mrs. Gordon: Our Affirmative Action agent before we approve them so that...
Mayor. Ferre: Mr. Andrews, would you see that Ann Nicol' gets a copy of this
and we'd like her here in the afternoon when we vote on this.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, it might with apologies to Mr. Clark Cook= I might give a
brief word of explanation which might streamline the thing a little bit. The
Public Commission sometime ago entered an order regarding the manner in
..p,L�F. power companies in Florida pay franchise or charge for franchise fees.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a moment, because this is very important and I want everybody
to hear it because this is going to end up being a problem. I want everybody to
listen to this. Go ahead. Now the legislature...
Mr. Lloyd: Wo, the PSC, the. Public Service Commission entered an order some
ago affecting the manner in which utility companies charge franchise fees to
CuEtome16. They some time later invited by another order municipalities and
agencies who were affected by this who had franchises with the various power
panies to file briefs with their thoughts on the subject.
Mayor Farm. . Like the City of Miami -
Mr. Lloyd:
Yes, sir. And the City of Miami did file such a brief.
Mayor Ferro: Because what is affected is $4,000,000 of city funds, Rtght?
Mr. Lloyd: Yea, sir, that's the reason.
ation with nmembere of the Florida League
adopted the City of Miami brief we filed
payable under the old system to the City
time
their
other
com-
Now along with that brief after consult-
and other members and several of whorl have
a motion to have the funds which would be
of Mi.uni placed in escrow, Now the reason--
JUL 311975
for that war; to attest to insure a quiek deeiaior► t5ne way or another by the
Public Service Commiesion because of the Public Service eonisaion mare to
sit on aria matter for a year it mould cost the City a substantial &Mount in
funds.
Mayor Perre: Like the Supreme Court has done in another uteri
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, t3ir. The trux of their deeisi i was thigh led tie to this opinion,
wag that it said in there that any future opinion they made to ehange or otherwise
this particular order tht they had previously entered would be prospective and hot
retrospective its its operation.
Mayor Perre: Put that in language so people can understand it.
Mr. Lloyd: Por instance* they invited us to file briefs here beak in June or
July, that was a dealirie which we filed well in advance.
Mayor 1erre: .,uat get to the point of this retrospective and prospective. What
does all that mean
Mr. Lloyd: That means they wouldn't go backwards. Everything would be after
they filed their; suppose we got a decision in our favor. Then everything would
he, the change would be only after they filed their new opinion and if we're
right and they're wrong, if they change their opinion then the funds which have
been affected would be lost. Now then, the PP&t and their attorneys have contacted
ur and suggested that our motion as it is, and I think Mr. Cook can explain thie
far better than I, the sense of it is that this could affect some large loans or
bonds which they're attempting to get at this time. The there fact that we've filed
such a :ration they're asking 'is to withdraw the motion. t believe, Mr. Cook, you
may proceed from there.
Rev. '=iLson. Something you said that didn't register. There was something said
there that I didn't understand about loss of...
Marc,r I r. r.: Well, that's going to get very complicated. I'll tell you what I'd
11.Y,e to Let's let Clark Cook snake his statement and then I'm going to make a
statement trying to see how I understand it in layman's language because John is
getting better and better every time but he still talks like a lawyer. We've got
to get it back to language that we, the people can understand.
. Lloyd: I apologize, your honor.
mayo-• F..rre . Don't apologize, that's your job.
Rev. Gibson: So that I could understand it, you have said to them, "You're sup-
pow,d co pay ,his franchise tax and I want you to put it in escrow, put it here."
Is that what you said?
Mr. Lloyd. What ws said, they're paying the franchise tax. It is a manner of
charging to the customers and of course ...
Ma-er Fe;re: 1 think maybe I'd better explain the politics of this so we under-
stare what happened. Now there are three people up there in Tallahassee called
the Florida Public Service Commission. Now they get an awfully lot of heat like
we do. So you know what they did? They said here's what we're going to do, in-
stead of having this franchise tax in the bill we're going to take it out of the
bill and we're going to put it as a separate item and then let the City of Miami
worry about it. in other words who gets the blame for that, who gets the rath
of the citizens - the guy who holds the franchise which is us. So as you pay
you bill now with the way they want to do it, what you're going to see is this
It's going to3 say: Alex and Rose Gordon, such and such Bayshore Drive, and
then it's going to say; Bill $142, that's your light bill and then it's going to
say, City of Miami. Franchise Tax, $6.73. And then you're going to say, well look
at that darn City of Miami hitting me with that tax, So then what's going to
happen +..hes: she anger supposedly of the citizens falls on the City of Miami and
not on the Florida Public Service Comunission which ought to be abolished and it
is long overdue for a real first class overhaul, But what can I tell you, this
is the game of passing the buck. That's what the name of it is and now what hap
pens is that we're not going to play this game sitting down we're going to play
it standing up. Now you tell us what problems this causes you,
Mr. Andrews; Mr. Mayor, one more point of clarity so Father Gibson can have the
benefit of all the information. Prior to this action the bills when you received
JUL 1975
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them for your residence would have reflected a &ales tax, a fuel adjustment
accounting, a City of Miami Utility Tax and then the total billing and in that
total billing would have been Cho Franchise Tax because it is an overhead. New
What the ootetiebieh has done is pall that PranchiseTax out and added it to thee&
item that appear on the bill so now when the recipient in the City of Miami gets
a bi11 there are tWo places that era► identified that the City of Miami is charging
one 10% for Utility Taxes and than a Pranehiat i'i on top of that. That could
cause us a great deal of trouble and people ate §eing no questien they should be
in a benee double taxed.
Mayor Petra: It is going to create all kinds of misunierstatidings and it was a
very very, it was not a nice thing to do. tk how you tell us.
Mr. Clark Cook: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Honorable members of the City Cc aission,
sty name is Clark Cook and I'm Matti Division's Consumer Service Manager frOM
Florida Pourer and Li< ht Coittpahy. M1y address is 25 S.E. 2rtd Atiehee. The Florida
Public Service Commission has requested that affected parties file briefs relates
ing to their investigation of the treatment of franchise fees for rate making pur-
poses. In response the City of Miani has filed such briefs. Certainly we have
no objection to such filings. FPL has in fact filed a brief with the P.S.C. which
does not object to the change in the method of collecting franchise fees sought
by the city. We do, however, request on behalf of our customers and our cOnatit-
uents withdrawal of a motion filed by the city which requests that these franchise
fees be held in escrow. it is our understanding that the principal purpose of
this particular motion was to obtain a prompt hearing before the Public Service
Commission. Cub: vital concern is the potential dataaging financial impact that
could result by the filing of this motion. We're now in the process of concluding
arrangements for needed additional financing and such action could produce a col-
lapse of present financing, the result of which could mean our inability to secure
necessary fina.neing or haeing to borrow funds at a higher interest rate. If this
were to occur the ultimate burden of paying for these increased costs would unfort-
unately be borne by our customers and our constituents. It is these people who
must ultimately pay the higher cost of producing electricity. You may recall
that i:h.s unfortunate circumstance has occured just last November when a state
offi.rla1 rendered an opinion on our fuel adjustment. This action caused, the col-
]a;;ee of a aeorable financing and resulted in FP & L eventually paying a higher
cosc eo finance. In our sincere effort to hold the line on all costs we would
respectfully request and strongly recommend that this particular motion be with-
drawn and if a prompt hearing is desired substitute it with a motion requesting
such prompt heating. You may be assured that Florida Power and Light Company will
continue to honor its obligations to the city of Miami in accordance with the term
of the presently affective franchise agreement.' We urgently request that this com-
mission Approve our recommendation.
Rev. Gibecn: I'm not so sure I understand.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's see if I can reconstruct what is happening. It used to
be where our little f-ranchiee tax where we're getting by the way 4, million dollars
used to be part of the bill. Now, since the Florida Public Service Commission is
under the gun by you big guys, by your giants (this is populous language now)..
You tip et:ye are out there increasing.- yesterday it was Southern Bell and every-
body Now I'm not arguing about that because I didn't even go to testify.
'are you are increasing the bills because your rates are going up and it's no
icnger going to cost a dime it's now going to be 200 to make a phone call and what
have yot and all of these rates and all of these things are going up and you need
more money which is why I've kept quiet because I think Florida Power and Light is
in desperate needs of funds to expand and meet the requirements of future Florida.
Pet, the Florida Public Service Commission is granting all these increases pretty
well, more or less. You've gotten more than what you -.wanted than less. Now there
are the pre,'sures. What they do is they say, "Alright, I'll tell you what, let's
put a little bit of this burden on the city." So they say, "Let's take odt from
the biii a franchise and put it under the line so that these citizens won't be
angry at the Florida Public Service Commission." Now they're going to get angry
at the City of Miami because the bill says City of Miami Franchise Tax. So now we're
cont-.psting that. We've filed a brief. Is that right, Mr. Lloyd, we filed a?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright. Now, what we're in affect doing is we're going to say, "Well
look, while this thing is settled we're going to take this (How much i:3 our Franchise
Tax, .its it 3 or 4%? what is our Franchise Talc, Mr, Lloyd?) It's 6%, Alright, now
we're taking the Franchise Tax and we're putting it into an escrow account, Is that
,correct?
f
Mr. Lloyd: No, Wa have moved, Mr. Meyer, the me to place those funds into an
eberow ayee,ti t pending determination by them of the eventual outcome of this sit=
Nation.
Mayor Petrel you see, in other words we get those moneys anyway, don't we? We
have the right to those moneys, they belong to us.
Mr. Cook: Mr, Mayor, den l help you lust a minute? tat Ana say sthing in kind
of plain English, The piorida Power and tight Company has no abjection to the city
filing these briefs.on this public Service Commission toeket. The Public Service
Co fission simply came back and said to the parties who ware affected by their rul-
ing on franchise fees, "please file a separate brief if you disagree with what the
Public Service Cam ►ietibn did." which the city has done. l think that'e great but
you've put a little stinger in that brief iri that you said, "Mold the franchise fees
in escrow."
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, the franchise fees in the past have been held by you
anyway and paid to the City of Miami.
Mr. Cook: les, sir. Absolutely.
Mayor Ferre: So why do you object to keeping on doing what you've been doing...
Rev. abson: That isn't what he's saying. That's jtiet the point. He's saying
that you ought to not put the money in escrow, let him handle the money in the
manner in which he had been handling the money that he'll honor his bill at the
end of the year or whenever that given period is. Isn't that my understanding?
Mr. Cook: That's correct. We pay the franchise fees once a year. There's no
problem there. The city filed a separate The city filed a'little attachment
to their brief trying to hurry the Public Service Commission into a hearing asking
them to put the franchise, asking us to put the franchise fees in escrow. If we
do that it will affect our financing which we're .... which will cost our customers
money.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, what you're telling us, Clark, is that you're using
the money of the people of Miami to operate or finance until the end of the yeaz.
Mx. Cook: Our contracts. Yes, our contracts or obligations which the City of
Miami calls for us to pay it in June of each year which we have no objection to
and which we've been doing. All we're asking for the city to do is withdraw the
motion to hold the money in escrow and refile a motion requesting a speedy hearing.
That will accomplish the same thing and won't affect our financing.
Mayor Ferro: Who does the money belong to? It belongs to the people of Miami.
Mx. Cook: It belongs to the City of Miami, yes.
Mayo' Ferre: But now what you're saying is that under a contractural arrangement
you really are not obligated to pay until June and what in effect we're forcing
you to do is pay it monthly.
•� . "ok: No, sir, you all are not forcing us to pay monthly nor have you asked
us to pay monthly. If you asked us to pay monthly or wanted to renegotiate the
contract to pay monthly it is a very strong possibility it could be negotiated.
Mayor Fer::e: What's happening is the money is going into an escrow account.
M.:. Cook: two, the money stays with Florida Power and Light to the month which it
is paid which I believe is July each year, We bring the city down it's check.
All we are asking the city to do, again if the city wants to renegotiate the franchise
which we've offered to do a number of times we'll be delighted to renegotiate the
franchise. That does take a long period of time as you well know. Now by your
City Attorney filing a brief asking us to put the money in escrow you are going to
affect our fne.r.ci.ng.
Mayer Ferre: Why? You're paying the money anyway, Why would it affect your financ-
ing?
Mr. Cook: Because we'll have to file, we're in the middle of a financing now for
additional bonds, we'll have to file in that financing for those bonds the fact that
we have or are having to hold franchise fees in escrow which will put a cloud on the
financing.
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Mayor parrs: Why? You e get .to pay them anyway.
Mr. Ceokt Well, true but it will still put a cloud one;. An example...
Mayer Parfet I've been in enough bond issues and finaneing where you're going to
have to me, Now tell me where I'm wrong and than I'll let you talk. You're not
questioning the negotiated eontraetural arrangements mbleti we have.
Mr Cook: Absolutely not.
Mayor Ferre: The City of Mi gets a 6% franchise from plorida Power and Light
payable in July of each year.
MY. Cbbk: That's correct.
Mayor Verret And you accumulate titbits funds and then pay it onee a year.
Mr. CookThat's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Now you have no questions as to that.
Mr. Cook: 1 have no problem With that.
Mayor Ferre: Now you also... Those things are accounted for in your cash flows.
Mr. Cook: That's correct.
Mayor Ferri:: And your budget, it's projected as part of your yearly budget that
you estimate your revenues will be so much and you'll have so much to pay to the
city. Rights
Mr. Cook: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Now your prospectus that you prepare or your red herring or whatever
it is that you're doing for your financing instrument, you're projecting that in
roui: cash flow. Now what is the difference whether you project it based on an
escrow account or whether you're projecting to pay in duly anyway?
Mr. Cook: Alright. By basing it on an escrow account, Mayor, the money is unavail-
able for me to use and changes my financial picture.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, so what you're saying then is that the three or four hundred
thousand dollars, a month that is in the use by Florida Power and Light throughout
the year is now being tied which is what I was trying to say before which you said
no.
Mr. Cock: It's being tied up.
Mayor Ferre It's being so you cannot use it in part of your cash flow throughout
the year.
Mr. Coc: That's correct.
Mayc,: Ferre: But in effectwhat you're saying then is that we are legally tying
what does not exist in the contractural agreement because the contractural agree-
ment is that you pay it .once a year.
Mr. Cook: That's correct,
Mayor. Ferre: And which has always been my objection, as you may recall it going
back to the days when I was an advocate against Florida Power°and Light increases.
Ate you my recall, my argument always was that you were using end of the year figures
in your construction to determine your base and in my opinion you should be averag-
ing ,
Mr. cook: I'm well aware of that.
Mayor Ferre; You remember that argument.
Mr. Cook: I remember that very well.
Mayor Ferre: Now in affect we're back, this is a different ,thing but it is similar
because what you're saying is that you want the use of those moneys throughout the
year. Now the only difference where I think 1 might end up agreeing with you is tkrat
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if we have a r`ontraeturai obligation, and I'm going to tell yeu if I'm around
when we renegotiate that you're not going to get that.
Mr. Cooks Mr, Mayor, 1111 be perfectly honest with you t think our new franchise
agreement will probably call for that. We have talked about that a number of times
ad we are willing to renegotiate the franchise agreement any time the city is. Yea
ma'am, we'd be glad to renegotiate it new if the City asked ma to.
Mrs. Oordont Well, maybe we might consider that4 Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferret tpe've got seven year to go, rive years...
Mr, Cook: Five, 1081 it runs out,
Mayor Ferret And we have where We're now getting 6%. Now by renegotiate do you
mean to go up?
Mt. Cook: No, I didn't mean that► sir,
Mrs. Gordon: He means we might get it monthly and then we could use those funds as
cash flow for the city instead of Florida Power and Light. t think that's what he
is saying.
Mayon Ferre: Rose, I know Florida Power and Light well enough to tell you that
they're not going to give up something without getting something and 1 want to
know what it is that you want.
Mrs. Gordon: What they want is that the escrow account not be established.
Mr. Cook: I need desperately to eliminate the escrow account for the simple reason
it will tie up my financng which could result in costing Florida Power and Light
money which is ultimately going ...
Mayor Ferre: All right, would you be willing to give us monthly payments on that?
Mr. Cook: On a new franchise, I'd be willing to negotiate with one and I'm sure
something would be worked out. I can't promise you standing up here. I believe
if you look at ether franchises.:.
Mx. Andrews: Mx. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: Don't get excited, Paul, we're just talking.
Mr. Andrews: No. The City Attorney has a counter suggestion.
Mayor Terre: And this is not a secret negotiation.
Mrs. Gordon: No, it's in the sunshine.
Mr. Lloyd: We concurrently have discussed a possible counter suggestion to be
negotiat-A by Mr. Andrews. If I may be permitted, Mr. Mayor, to ask this through
you to Ar. Cook. Could you tell me what would be your position, Mr. Cook, toward
ratha: than just in your brief where you haven't really objected to our position
to changing it to concurring with the city's position regarding the manner of pay-
ment and becoming the manner of charging...
Mr. Andrews: And becoming an advocate.
Mir. Lloyd: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: I'm all for that.
Mr. Cook: That puts me in a very difficult position and I really can't answer
that John, now standing here and looking at you, We have filed a brief not object-
ing to the 72'.ty filing, not objecting to anything the Public Service Commission...
Mayor Ferre: That's not strong enough is what he's telling you.
Mr. Cook: 1 kind of feel that the Public Service Co mission should re:;o].ve this
rather than Florida Power and Light Company. We're kind of the third party, we
kind of got caught in the middle,
ME.yor Ferre: Let me tell you what that means. That means that they don't depend
on the City of Miami Commission very much but Florida Power and Light like any utility
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it absolutely dependent on the Public Service Camisoles for lite or death so
they're not abet to antagonise the three commissioners up there and if t were
in their shoes that'a exactly what t woild do but that is not necessarily the
best interest to the people of Miami, See, you've got to worry aft your fore*
sentation, we've got to word' about curs, Our constituency is the people of
Miami and if you want us to give this tip I want to know what you're going to
give us.
Mt, Cooks 1't certainly be more than glad to start negotiating a nsw franohise
with the City of M3 ami ii.
Mayor t'ecres What does that mean? You know if we'rre going to go negotiate we're
going to negotiate up, we're tot going to negotiate down.
Mr. Cook: I didn't say to negotiate down.. t'd have to start out in an honest
negotiation, mayor, and simply come back with what Florida power and tight Company
can do. We would be glad to do that which we have offered to do a number of times.
Mayor Terre Mt. Andrews, I'd like your opinion on this. la there any advantages
for us to start doing this now?
Mr. ?i drewa: Yes, there could be. Certainly.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, he said there could be. Is there?
Mr. Andreas: Well, you see, the current franchise has 9 years to run to 1984. It
is true that our bonding indebtedness against that concludes in 1981 but this runs
to to 1984. They've got 9 years to continue on and from thst position of negotiation
I would think that the City of Miami; it's not as much.concern.to them as it is to
the City of Miar;i . Do you sense what I'm saying, Father?
Rev. Gibson: Yes. If we pursue, if we do what he wants us to do are we, we aren't
hurt any more than we were being hurt anyway. Isn't that right? Ok, let me put it
anot.nrr. you weren't getting the money anyhow. You were going on say, "Ok, at the
c71•4 of the year give me my money." These people have said consistently by perform-
:.� thi.= in wiia'. I'm doing... "OK, here is your money." Isn't that right?
Mayor Ferre: Right, by contractural. In other words we agreed to do that when we
put our John Hancock on it.
Rea. Gibson: Right. And now in the middle of the stream, and please understand I
don't work for Florida Power and Light Company I work for Christ Church and the cit-
izens. Ck? In the middle of the stream you're saying to these people, "Change the
rule cf the ballgame." That's really what you're saying.
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Rev. Gibson: Now you know I want everything I can get for the people but I think
we ought to be honorable in dealing with people and I could understand why we did
that but you have to admit that you have a contractural agreement which says...
this is what you're going to do.
++ :• ..r: _,erre: 'tes, but let me be the advocate cn the other side. Let me keep with
t.r:a :lrgu:aent on that. You see that's between him and you. OK? You're the city,
ze's Florida Power and Light but all of a sudden it doesn't take two to tango, the
third guy walked in. The third guy is the Florida Public Service Commission and
he says, "Look, I want to be part of this dance too," So he gets in the middle of
it and he says, "Now this isn't a two way deal this is a three way deal." And then
t'ey change the rules of the game. Now it's not our fault, we don't like the new
rules. We say, "how wait a moment, we're having a nice time dancing here. Why do
yr..' want to interfere and get into the dance?" But now we got a third party and
he's changing not only the tune he's changing the steps. He's saying no, we're
going to dance to a different song and we're going to do it in a different way.
So the Citl Attorney goes in and he says, "Ok, then we want to appeal that because
we don't Iikr. what you're doin9.and while we're appealing it we want to hold up
` ef. moneys." Ok? So you can't blame the city for protecting our position
because the law gives us that right because we've got a new game now - we've got
a aew dance and there is a new drummer and what I'm trying to say is this, Father,
it's not a two way deal; itis a three way deal,and'the Florida Power and Light
are victims of it, The Florida Public Service Corni.ssion are playing 5 ames and
they're playing games that affect us. Now this is the only way that we've got
to protect ourselves. Ncw as fax as I'm concerned this; how do you negotiate when
you get into a thing like that? You negotiate from strength, Because what in
affect we've done is the one thing that really steps on his toes, OK, and I'm
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willing to get off of his toes but 1 want to know what hale going to do for us.
1s he going to dance a little bit closer or is ha going to be a little bit nicer
or is he going to rub our backs {While we're dancing or what is he going to dot
What le he going to do for uB if we get off of it tree? 'That'{; lust the way
the game is played. tt just happens to be that you're right, thereis a eon.
traetural arrangement and t think we have amoral obligation but somebody ogee
in and broke that up and it isn't his fault and it isn't our fault but we're
victims of it. Now we've stepped on his to and new t want to knew is, ek,
we'll get Off your to .6 you tell us what you're going to do for ue
Mr. Cook: I'm certainly going to dance a little closer. 1 think the key here,
Maurice We've always dilir g to ranegbtiat+e the franchise at any tithe and would
Offer the city every opportunity tb do that, lti fact, 1 personally have bftered.
1 know many Of our people have. The reel key here is not that you've stepped on
our toes as tmich as that by etepping Oh our toes... we're not bblecting to your
filing by any means of the imagination but by putting the eeorow it it could well
cost us to lose our financing Which could well cost ua additional eaate ih our
operating expense area Which could well make the cost of energy increase and 1
don't think that's in the best interest of your constituents anymore than it is
our custeMers'
Mayor petre: 1 know Clark, but there is a wonderful saying its Spanish which is:
Once you pay the musician he doesn't play. You see, he doesn't play your tune
and what I'm telling you is that the only thing that we've got going for us right
now happens to be this. Because how much affect do you think our little suit has
before the public Service Commission? bo you think those fellows are going to
kowtow...
Mr. Cook: We11, first, it's not a suit a brief. The public Service Commission
asked for these briefs and many cities are filing these briefs which We have no
objection to. Just the escrow area which could affect the cost of energy.
M&:yor Terre; Clark, you don't want to get into a tirade about this, do you?
rig. Cook: No, I don't.
Mayer Ferre: Because I'll tell you I'll give you a long speech about what is
wrong with the Public Service Commission. The Public Service Commission wants
to act as judge, jury and advocate and that is what is wrong with it. Ok? Now
here they're asking us to give them briefs and they're going to perform as an
advocate and then they're going to turn around and be a judge and they're going
to !;e a jury. All I'm saying is that as far as I'm concerned our brief isn't
worth the paper it's written on because that is going to be ready by some lawyer,
with all due respects:to that profession, who is just going to say something and
nobody is going to pay any attention to it and they're going to do it anyway.
They've done in the past, they'll do it in the future. So all I'm saying is that
if we h-ve any cloud at all it's through you and I want to know, I think you've
got a valid point and I'm with you, now I want you to tell me what you're going
to do fcr Kos.
Mr. Cook! The only thing'I can do for the City, Mayor, is offer to renegotiate
the f r,,1,rhise offering the latest which we put into our latest franchise which
ua r•egotiated with Broward County which was recently passed which I believe did
call for monthly payments.
Mayor Fern : My opinion is that..in fairness that on a good faith basis, and I
mean a good faith basis because I'm going to be looking at you in the eyes again
before this commission, that we'll reopen renegotiations and put the Manager to
start negotiating and by negotiating I mean up not down. We don't negotiate
down around here.
Mr. Cook; We'll be more than delighted to work in that area.
Mayor Ferre; And amongst the things that we want to include, Mr. Manager, is
monthly payments because we can work that money just as well as you can.
Mr. Cook: I can understand that. That doesn't appear I believe to be an object-
ion. We simply need the escrow removed where we don't affect those higher energy
costs
Rev. Gibson; Mr. Mayor, you now I'm laughing because this is all. I was saying in
the beginnins. If you really believe in what you're telling bs you know you could
give us a comuittment that WE, when we go to bargain, sit down a part of the propose
is going to be without debating that we're going to pay that money in monthly
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installments. you see, What # ditooveredl you know I'm net a buginetsman but
disebver�d that you were holding $4,000,b00 tor a period el a year. Man, you
know 1 went to eehool at night. $4,000,000 in your hand, let's say that is o
that every ninety days and you know t know stow the sae tells met *Well, you know
Father, we've get to eharge you 4% for the uaa of the money. You base, and what
we're doing is beeause you're taking all that time you're using the $4,000,060
as it accumuietta. 1 understand that. tut 1 feel obligated that the feet that
you that r have a contract with you that makes me feel very uncomfortable. tut
1 think the mayor is right.
Mayor Ferret Let me tell you just for the record I don't know that meh about
that franchise tax but I know enough about it to tell , you that it is Avery very
complicated technical and drawn out legal docent. It ie not an easy document
to understand. It has all kinds of ramifications. Mow let me for the record
state to you, Mr. clark Cook, to you Can taste the message back to Big Mae and
all the people up at the top, Gene and all of bur goof friends that you know
tight now the way this thing works is that you pay 6% but you eubtraet the ad
valorem value of your properties from that and we may not want to subtract that
in the future so you start sharpening up your pencil and start figuring that out.
As far as I'm concerned I think on a good faith basis Florida Power and Light has
always been eminently fair- and open in my opinion even :though I haven't always
agreed with them. But I think they've been fair with the City of Miami and
therefore, I would certainly go along with with you. I don't know if anybody
else wants to on that basis. I think the motion should be tt.at we agree to
change that aspect of our brief holding the escrow with the understanding that
Florida power and Light will then reopen for negotiation the existing franchise
tax considering that the City of Miami has some positive things we want to add.
Rev. Gibson: Father, 1 can agree to that. Let me answer Father Gibson a question.
Father, I cannot in my position say to you that 2 will guarantee that I will guarantee
the city of Miami from where I stand that they will get a franchise equal to any
franchise that we have now.
Rev. Gibson: I want to tell you want I told Metropolitan Dade County when they
cane here. I want to know that you are going in that meeting'with a positive
att:dtule and energetically advocating our position. You can tell a man, "You
know n:an, I'm for you." And you say to a man, "Man, I'm really for you." And
you know there is a lot of difference in those two tones. You know what I mean?
Mr. Cook: It will be positive.
Mayor Ferre: We've got to move now. Father Gibson makes the motion, is there a
second to the motion?
Mr. Reboso: What is the motion again?
Mayor Ferre: The motion is that the City of Miami will withdraw that portion of
our brief which deals with the escrow that has been established...
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, may I suggest please, the motion should be to instruct
the City Attorney to withdraw the motion to place the FP & L franchise funds in
escrow.
:1 ycr Ferre: That is not the motion, not by a long shot because that's only #1
of the motion and that's the whole point of all of this - and #2 to instruct the
Manager to immediately start negotiations with Florida Power and Light for the
Franchise Tax which does not come due until 1984, whatever it is; and that the
sense of this commission in doing this is that there are many advantages that the
City of Miami is going to receive by renegotiating this franchise at an early date.
That's what we're saying.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-697
A MOTION REQUESTING T.THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WITHDRAW THE MQTION PLAC-
ING FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FRANCHISE FEES IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT;
AND FURTHER URGING THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO EXPEDITE
THE GENERAL INVESTIGATION OF FRANCHISE FEES AND RULE ON THIS QUEST-
ION AS SOON AS 'QSSIBLE,
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by a unanimous vote.
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,;11R`aOST�bYCITY MANAG
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CITY ENVIRONMENTAL PRES �'AT!ON ORDINANCES POR
RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO REOLVE PROBLEMS ETC r
Mayor Perte t Via sorry to do this to all at you a ib are waiting en the regular
agenda but we have an item here Which Wig. Gordon wants to bring up and it really
d+eserttas some attention. This is Michael Sirnonoff on the environmental pteser
nation fieltiese board and he's been trying to come up here. Rose. why don't you
explain it,
Mre. Oordont All right. There are saute ambiguities in this board's direttivee.
Michael, would you dome forward please, and explain thorn please. 1 have the
papers here and if 1 explain it then he won't have to and he can do a better
job at it.
Mr. Michael simonofft My name is Mike sitohoff. I'm chairman of the tntrir0ftnental
Preservation Review Board for the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferret Mike, how long are you going to take/
Mr. simoncff. Probably about 5 minutes► i think. We.... I'll say a few worde
and then there will probably be a little discussion and 1'd like Dave Scully who
is Vice CLeitman of the Board to say something too.
Mayor ferret Well, if it is going to take much more than 5 minutes then we're
going to have to schedule it later on in the day because there are a lot of people
waiting.
Mr. Simonofft Ok, we'll do it. The ordinance Was set out so that private indi-
viduals as well as the City of Miami would take every effort to preserve the natural
environment. New we have some conflicts and overlapping of authorities within the
ordinance. I sent a letter to the commission on June 6th based upon a meeting
that the boare had. What we would like to do is have the city place all public
rights -of -way and parks under the jurisdiction of the ordinance so that we can
eliminate anyconflicts and overlapping of authority. By doing this we certainly
will say*e some money. There will be maybe one crew removing trees instead of two
uiffer{nt crews from two different departments and we'll have some sort of an idea
tolekt i a eeepening. Now we had an example down here at the extension of Mac Farlane
where two mahoganies were just ripped out of the ground because there wasn't prior
thought, It's not to say that those mahoganies should not have been moved but the
manner in which they were removed with no one knowing about it and they are dead
ncw, we. stopped by. This won't happen if we put everything, all the city depart-
ments *leder the ordinance. Now if the citizens have to do it I think that the city
really ought to have to do it also. If parkways are designed there should be one
group that designs those parkways. If trees are going to be removed then there
should be one qualified crew that is going to remove and. relocate and replant those
trees,
Mayo Ferret I think that is a valid point. Mr. Andrews, do you want to...
Mr. Andrews: Yes. I have no objection to the inclusion of the parks as part of
the ordinance but I think that we're going to create some problems if we include
the public, rights -of -way. We've been extremely conscious and have a background
of tr};_:,g Lc improve the public rights -of -way. The incident that you refer to,
az:e more trees in that location than if those two mahogany trees die as a
result of this they're going to be replaced. We've already planned that. But
the trees in that particular area, there are more trees there now than when we
started out with. We've added to the landscaping in that area and I think the
conscientiousness of the City can best be demonstrated by the way this is being
eainta..i.ned along Bayshore Drive. And without anybody asking the Department of
Public Works went ahead and began beautifying and fixing up the parkway leading
down to the waterfront on Mac Farlane. So I would request that you at least at
this Cole not include the public right-of-ways but do ine]ude the parks.
Mrs. Gordon: Will you speak to that, Mr. Simonoff7
xr, a mcn ff: Yes. I think that Public Works has indicated a willingness to
work and I think this can all be done administratively. 'If they're going to do
transplanting of trees then there should certainly be a qualified crew to remove
and relocate those trees. Those two mahoganies, I'm just finishing a landscape
design where I'm having to pay close to $200 a tree for mahoganies a little bit
smaller than those e.nd that's taxpayer's money that is getting wasted and that
shouldn't happen anymore' Now if -the trees had to be removed COX, They should
have been removed properly and all I'm saying is that all the departments should
work within the framework of the ordinance but that can be done administratively
as long as the city expresses the desire that all of the different departments
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should fall within it. if a citisen has t6 d6 it and they call me 4 thera
must hay.+ 'Seers SO calls because of those trees and they called me and the!,
said, "Why doesn't the city Watts to do D. if 1 have to db it7" ate they
have a point.
Mrs. taordon: I want to ask Mr. Other if he doesn't have any ablecticn why
don't we just proceed and include it.
Mr Grimes I do have an objection. 1 disagree with it violently. When he
says he has taped to Public Works about this he's taking liberties that I
don't think he should. 1 think that our track record if developing Public
rights--or-way is one to be proud of. Now it ie unfe rtunate that this tine
mahogany tree the rope slipped andktt skinned it - that's all what happened.
But on Mac Parlane if you'll go down and look at it you'll see that we've
brought in sumo Limbos. We've transplanted a Picus, some mahoganies. We've
repeirsted the anchor; we've decorated the foot of Mac parlane Street! We've
planted Perriwinkles.
Mrs. Gordon: May I :yak a very pointed question/ Why mould ybu , beve any objection?
It's all a matter of coordination under one responsible board.
Mr. Grimm: Because this ordinance could even get us involved in going to public
hearings to prune a tree.
Mrs. Gordon: Is that true?
Mr. Simonoff: only if it fell within an environmental preservation district.
All it takes is a phone call and I'm not knocking Public Works I know you've
done a beautiful job and you're continuing to do so but I feel that if we get
certain areas., I'm not saying you have to come before an Environmental Board
to ark our permission to do something which you have the right to do anyway.
I'm just saying that if you do it you should have qualified crews to do it and
I think if you have one crew that it handling this instead of different crews
from different departments we're going to save a lot of money.
Alright, 10 minutes have gone by and I think we all know the argu-
ments. Now let's see what the will of the commission is.
Mrs. Gordon: It needs some amendments to the inclusion of the ordinance and I
think that perhaps they have to be prepared and made ready for us. Is it possible
that we could ask you to get together with our Manager, someone from his staff and
get these corrections to us so that we can take some action?
Mr Simonoff: To put it in a form...
M.s. Gordon: Exact recommendations for amendments and if in fact Public Works
feels that they want to be deleted and the parks are to be included then that...
Mr. btmonoff: The whole idea is to be fair and get rid of all this bureaucratic
red tape but it Should apply to all.
Mrs. Go -Jo..: Right. Would you prepare the recommendations that your board is
;:wor Ferre: Mike, I think what you ought to do is, let me just say as one voice
oet of 5 here that I am in principle in agreement with what you're saying. I
think, however, there are some conflicts with the existing ordinance that would
have to he worked out because you certainly don't intend to have the government
c. the city going to you to prune a tree. So let's get these things worked out
acid o ing it back then...
Mr. Simonoff; It is an administrative process that would happen but all that
we're raying is that it should, that all city departments should follow the law
that the citizens have to follow.
;3ayo; Ferre: Mr. Andrews, would you bring it up for discussion then after the
administration has gotten into the -discussion and come up with a recommendation
for the September meeting. Do we need a motion for that?
Mrs. Gordon: I'll move that, directing the Manager to come pack to us with specific
recommendations for consolidating the responsibilities for the Environmental Preser-
vation under the board.
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The followting metiott was intgodUoed by Comissioner Gordon, olio
molt its adoption t
MOTION NO. /Si07S
A MOTION REOURSTINC THE CITY MANAMEA TO STUDY .THE Cl''Y' S
ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION.OMINANCE0 AND RECOMMEND CHANCES
TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE Cl'rY'DE MIAMI'S
bEV OtM S IM INVIPOMMENTAL PRESERVATION VATION DISMIC"TS,
upon being sec r►ded by Commissioner Gibson, the motibh was passed
and adopted by the following voter
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mfg. Plummer, Mr, Aeboso, 1iev. Gibson and Mayor Pare.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Nont.
Aev. Gibbon: Mr. Mayor, l'M going to vote for this which doesn't necessarily
mean that's waht I'm going to be doing. t want to hear it,
Mayor Ferret I vote in the same way, with the reservation to see the final
document.
JUL 311975
OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTANCE SOUTH PINEMOUNT SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
OF COMPLETED WORK SR`5242 "C" AND "S"
The Mayor announced the commission was now ready to hear objections to accept-
ance of completed work in South Pinemount sanitary Sewer Improvement District
SA-5242 C and SR-5242 S.
No Objectors Appeared.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-699
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF GOODWIN, INC.
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SOUTH PINEMOUNT SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
SR-5242 C (centerline sewer) AND SR-5242 S (sideline sewer) IN
SOUTH PINEMOUNT SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5242 C
(centerline sewer) AND SR-5242 S (sideline sewer) AT A TOTAL COST
OF $997,023.40 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $106,978.95.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed Ana adopted by the following vote-
hL::: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
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JUL 8119/5
OBJECTIONS TO ACCEP'I!NCE FASHION SANITARY SEWS IMPROVEMENT
OF COMPLETED WORK
SR-5'4O2 C
The Mayor announced that the City Commission was now ready to hear objections to
the proposed acceptance of completed work performed by D.M.P. Corporation for the
construction of PASSION SANITARY SEWSR IMPROVEMENT SR154O2 C.
No Objectors Appeared,
moved its adOptiont
RESOLUTION Nb, 75400
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PER ORMED BY D.M.P.
CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OP $26, 6SS • 4n AND AUTHORIPIHC A
FINAL PAYMENT OP $ 2, 487 6 41 POR fHE CONSTRUC ION OP ?ASHtON
SANITARY SEWER tMPRO NT Sri=5402 C 'toenterltne sever) IN
PASHI0N SANITARY SCR V ROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-.54O2 C (center..
line sewer.)
(Here follow8 body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Terre NOES: None. 3 1975
JLL 1
SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTANCE
OF COMPLETED WORK H-4342
The Mayor announced the City Commission was now ready to hear objections to
acceptance of completed work in SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT H-4342«
No Objectors Appeared.
The follcwing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-701
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY MARKS
BROTHERS COMPANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,009,497.76 AND AUTHOR-
IZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $203,120.49 FOR SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4342 IN SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4342.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayox Maurice A. Ferro NOES; None,
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JUL is 1 imp
GRANT PERMISSION TO
MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER
AUTHORITY TO CONSTRUCT SUBI
INTERCEPTOR VENT STAi'tON
LOT C BLOCK ONE, SILVERSON
AND TATUMS
Mr.'Garrett Sloant 1.11 try to be brief. This is a subject of long standing
in that the City of Miami former bepattment of Water and Sewers installed many
miles of large diameter concrete gravity interceptors whist were placed into
service as a savage disposal project in 1055. in that time we've had a prob.,
ism of interior deterioration of the pipe and in the early GO.s we installed a
ventillation facility at Siseayne boulevard and 3?th Street which had proven to
be very sueceeafial and kept the pipe from deteriorating and also we haven't
erected any local nuisances there. About 3 years age its the Civic Center area
we ihttali.ed another ventil2.ation facility which has operated without incident
and also protected the interior of the pipe from deterioration. Our problem is
that Hydrogen Sulfide forms as a gas in the sewers and the interior of the cones
orete pipe is attacked chemically. you have to move air through the pipe in
order to keep it clean and to keep it ventilated. If you don't do that you'll
have a deterioration of the concrete. We as an agency, the Miami -Dade Water
and Sewer Authority take full responsibility for the operation of these facilit-
ies and we know that it ie always possible for a short tuft problem to develop
but we have conscientiously operated the facility with so far the existing
facilities with no difficulty. WE need your support here for the variance so
that we can build this facility and protect the interceptors on the south side
of the Miami River.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Andrews:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Andrews:
All right. The Manager approves this, does he/
We have no objection to it.
I mean you're in concurrence with this. Is that correct?
Yes, there is really no choice In this matter, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't see where we have any choice. THe man has
stated that it ie absolutely imperative and there is no alternate site. I move
xz.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-702
A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION, AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE NO.
6871, ARTICLE IV, SECTION 32, E40', LOT C, BLOCK 1, SILVERSON
AND TATUM'S SUBDIVISION (3-190), BEING N.W.' SOUTH RIVER DRIVE
AT N.W. 3RD STREET, BY MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY;
ZONED R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE) DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
file
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed Ann adopted by the following vote -
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
JUL 3 I 1975
• Jut, 3 119/b
RAND D TRANSIT ALIGNMENT & ROUTE
BRRSUYCR,AnO IRARF.IC & TRANSPORTATION
br. dyer: Thank you, Mr. Mayer. As a follow up to my presentation and discussion
at your previous Con ission Meeting t did respond as you requested to the specific
issues and concerns that had been raised by the City of Miami earlier in a resoluta.
ion and in a series of policy statements. The response basically is that there
are about 16 items it total that we discussed the previous time. Of the 16 items -
We tried to coat in every case the apeeific steps that we saw Were necessary t6
resolve each issue and then set a time frame as Vice Mayor Plummer had requested
to resolving each of those issues. Now basically what we tried to say is that the
first three are three that seemed in the resolution to be the most eign1ficant
and the Most important to the City of Miami. In those the first two, of Bourse,
the proposed alignment on Le ,leune and bouglas (toad we had talked earlier, that
is not a serious concern or the county has no strong feelings on that issue and
leaves it basically as one that can be resolved between the City of Miami and
Coral Gables. We did auggest an approach and a time frame.
Mayor Ferre: Let's stop you, may we do this as you go along? l think you know
John, what I find out ftc n my experience in government is where the buck passing
occurs is usually 'tot intentional. somebody does not maliciously go out and say
let's pass the buck. What happens is that the guy in Coral Gables says let Miami
worry about it aAci the man in Miami says let Coral Gables worry about it and you
say well, let them both worry about it. What happens is that nobody gets the ball
rolling. 3o what 1 would recommend is that you take it upon yourself since it is
your prizrary responsibility to get Coral Gables and Miami together. You call a
meeting and we'll be there and we'll present our views; let theta present theirs
and then we'll have it out. You see they don't want rapid transit going through
Coral Gables but we don't want it going through our residential side of the street
so let's talk It out.
Dr. Dyer: Fine, we accept that and will be glad to call that meeting, sir.
Number 2 was the proposed utilization of Flagler and Flagier Terrace for the west
ce-r.irior alignment. Again the county has no strong feelings on the issue. Basically
the- the recommendations of the City of Miami are very good ones. We
think that that could be finalized within 8 months. We do think it requires some
additional careful studying and careful working with the neighborhood and with the
people in the areas and we propose to work very closely with the City of Miami on
that issue over the next 8 months in trying to finalize it. The third one is really
one that is to the point of needing some decisions at this point in time by the City,
of i4iami and the Dade County Commission which basically kind of result in an agree-
ment on a mini -system for downtown Miami. The mini -system then would be put in
place over a. period of a year to two years starting, if the city agrees with the
coneultanc's recommendations and assuming the county does also we would start with
a mini-sycte_r of buses with planned fixed guidway mini -system to follow on as demand
generates up to where one is needed. In other words do it in two stages. That is
the recommendation of the consultant. That basically was one I sense that there
.rs pretty mach agreement between the city and the county policy makers on that
iseue. It is a matter 1 think of formalizing that on what I would propose to be
a joint resolution, a resolution identical passed by the city and the county. If
the cit, is agreeable to that we'll be delighted to draft it.
Myer Ferre: Yes, that's important but when can we frame that? When could we go
in that direction?
Dr. Dyer: If the sense of the city is that you're in general agreement with the
recommendations of the consultant we'll be delighted to draft a draft resolution
which would be identical...
Mayor T'erre: John, what Father Gibson and Plummer and all of us said and the
adrninio,:retion time and time again is that there are some basic things in this
whole proposed plan which go contrary to the best interests of the people of Miami.
A11 right? I mean I hate to put it in those strong or blunt words but what we're
sayip'j is that as in the past we are going to be reasonable about it but we want
tc kz.ow and we don't want to wait until the final stage of this thing where we
stand. Now if we can come to some kind of an agreement that in philosophy Metro-
politan Dade County will subscribe to the general ideas that we have put out, or
some of them, then I think we can cola to a final agreement, Now if wE don't come
to that then in affect what we're fearful of, and it isn't an idle fear it is .a
fear from experience. And you know what it is and Garrett Sloan knows what it is
and we've seen it c and that is that the City of Miami is taken for granted and
then we're going down the pike and all.. of a sudden the things that we need for our
citizens aren't done and somebody says why don't we, well let's stop them and then
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all the newspapers start to editoralixe and everybody gets all upset saying,
"Well, there is the City of Miami blocking prof Well, it just happens
to be that what we're doing is repreaenting our constituents and expressing
A viewpoint that the people of Miami we believe subscribe to. Mow, for us all
of a sudden to say thatwe're gang to play opposeum in this whole thing and
wait until the filth hour to put forward out position is not realistic, Ant
what in affect Paul Andrews and the adMinistrationohd t Might say this is the
best job that X've Men the adMihietratibh do in the two years that I've been
Mayor be tat, in your owti words it is a very well thought out and documented
position,
Dr. Dyer, And it is the only eity that hag come up with ofiethitg like this.
Mayor ?erre: We spent a lot of time and had a lot of talent ihVesiVed in that
and wa had public hearings. We didn't go out and just do this, We put it to
the people. We went Around and asked the people of Miami to tell its what they
thcught and that document is a reflection of what not only professionals think
but what the pecp11 of this community think, •And now we want to know whether
this is acceptable, yes or to.. Now, t've read your dOcuMent and 1 understand
yeur ,:osition and all of that but in affect what you're telling us is its too
ce:17 to make those decieiont,- noW let us go ahead and proceed with getting
$65,000,000 so that we can just start into the design phase and then what is
going to happen is you're going to get your $65,000,000, you're going to start
on your design phase and then all of a sudden we're going to be faced with the
fact, that no, you want to go through the commercial part of Flagler, that you
don't want to tou,7h on Srickell Avetue and the DuPont Plata Area, that you don't
want to follow the alignment that We recommended in other areas and that you
think it ougnt to go o'er Douglas Road. And all of sudden we're going to find
ourselves that we're going to be the bad guys. You see/ Mianti is the bad guy
again ard I dot want to be put in the position of being the bed guy. I want
to be in the nos.ition of saying, "Look, this is our rapid transit system too
and we want'... ind we're going to be paying taxes for it. Tice people of Miami
are going to brt carrying 20 to 25% of the burden of a subsidy that that thing
is going to cost and 1 want to make sure, and I'm sure I speak for everybody on
tlir ,-ommission, that it serves the best purposes of the City of Miami and the
;I"Ortr MfctMi.
Mr. Plummez: .Mr. Mayor, let me aek if it is maybe something possible here
because I can understand Dr. Dyer's position and that is that it really is just
too early at this stage of the game to make the decisions. John, is it possible
that this commission could have assurances that in fact before the final decis-
ions are made that the City of Miami whether it be this commission, its people
or a combination thereof will have an input into the final decision making?
Dr. Dycr: AbLoluSely.
Mr. Plume: 4ell, I think this is really what we're looking for. If this
paper vhloh wo Lave surrendered is premature then I would assume it is premature
for ev(:ryope including your department until those decisions come down to the
final. 'idre. Let me say this, Mr. Mayor, and then I'll be quiet. I would assume
that this commission really is looking for a letter from you jointly from the
Mayor of ,tropolitan Dade County that before the final decisions are made that
you do 4alc. and you would appreciate the input of both this commission and its
into the final design. Now I read your memo with a great deal of care
I can understand your point because things change daily, weekly. / think
that I personally, I can't speak for the rest:of the commission, but I personally
would feel very comfortable if we had such a letter from you and/or the Mayor or
hot ll stating that when this thing draws down to the final conclusion that the City
of mLamd input be listened to and will be discussed thoroughly and I think
weeLd feel very comfortable,
John, let me put it to you this way. I look at this document and
here is first line in number one: The county has no strong feelings on this issue.
Mere is the first positionon the second point: The county has no strong feelings
on this issue. Now you know that leaves me cold because what I want you to say
The Cit.:, of Miami has taken a strong position on this which we disagree with
ue! cnn,ur with in principle. Now this thing of the county has no strong issue
on thls and this is primarily a matter between the City of Miami and coral Gables
is to say, "Ok, you go divide yourself and fight about this thing and whoever i5
the victor then that' a who we're..." Now come on.
Dr. Dyer: That's not the intent, Mayor. We're painfully aware of the difficulty
when the widening of Douglas Road occured and the clip caMe Off the east side on
Douglae all the way up.
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JUL 33. 1975
Mayor Perrot Well teke a stand theft.
Rev. Cibsont Not only that, Mr. Mayor, I'm not going to be quiet now. I lust
think thee the butk *tom here and W6 Ube live in the City of Miami and have
the interest of the potpie of the City of t&tatni at heart and that's involving
that etate. We need some yes, he mowerstook, t eee some things happening
to this city that really make the want to regurgitate. I want to slay, (looter,
t love you, t understand your position but t don't love you that well nor am
t willing to interpret your position ao tomfortably as you would wait me to do.
t want goat definite mowers about Douglas 1koad. t'm het Wang to be like the
ether eommissioeers. Gib§ on wants some answers and here is what we dineover
like with Florida power and tight Company Nlah, takes three to tango. YOU
know if you've got all the steps and t don't have none you know that ain"t the
way the game it. You see, what is happening it we're Oh the short end every
time. t doe't think We ought to be put in that pesition, One the day the
people ate goitg to aek t, NIO'it interest are you protectingl'd hate for
them to aek us.
Mayo- Ferret John, let me just outline very quickly and if you will follow this
you will see our concern. t'm just labq to pick out one sentence from everyone
of thee statements and t'm going to then show you why we're concerned. All right,
this is ltee #1 "The county has no strong feelings on this ieeee." #2, "The
County has no strong feelings on this issue." #3, "The primary problem is funding,"
04, "The design option remaihs open." Item #5, "bate now on hand is insufficient
to firmly eetermine." Item #6, "Further study of this issue will be performed."
Item #7, "The issues will be restudied." Item #8, "Required to determine the advis-
ability of the plan.' Item #9, "Further analysis of this issue will be given."
Item #1e, "Further design attention will also be placed on the potential for devel-
opment of such ancillary areas as linear oarks.* See, in other words I don't see
in anywhere here any fire committment to the position that we, the professional
staff ehat have a final decision on this thing through the County Commission feel
that there is a strong argument for it and we advocate it or we're against it.
You see, "Further study will be needed. We have no strong feelings on this. Further
study will be needed. We don't have any moneys to do this. Further study will be
teaded." In other words, where are we7
Dr. Dyer: Perhaps I'd better explain where we are, that's just it. We're just
finishing a preliminary engineering program that is not even intended to look at
the specific alignments and to freeze those alignments and station locations.
That's one of the major things that happens in the next stage. There is no way
that I can say in affect that that alignment is frozen or those stages there.
So I can't give you a definitive yes or a definitive no on those questions.
Mayor Ferret Yes, but you've taken definitive positions on other items you see
but yore haven't taken... Well, you have a plan. That took some decisions. Ok.
And yet wre giving you an alternate and you say ... So see, what I'm saying
is I don't feel comfortable. Maybe, John, what it is that I'm just an old horse
trader at heart and I just like to see a little something coming our way.
Dr. Dyer: Well, let me try to indicate from 10 on -on these things 1 think we
support -our position, your policy positions all the way. We quite agree with
the aeti-ial emphasis upgrading. We say it has to happen, it has to be continued.
c.n)nk wo quite agree with #12 on the timing to minimize disruptions. WE concur
with it wholeheartedly. On the minimization of central facilities, city parking
facilities we quite agree with that. We quite agree with everything from there
on where there are policy positions. Where you're asking for a definitive specific
on one alignment we're not to the program. We're not far enough along where we can
give you that. We're saying sure, you'll be involved in it.
Mayer Ferret John, Father Gibson said something yesterday which I'll never forget
and I'm going to use it; you're going to be hearing this at every commission meeting
from now on beceuse I really liked that one. He said that his bishop told him when
he said you can take a horse to the well but you can't make him drink. Ok? And
then he saye hin Bishop told him he said, "If you give him a little salt he'll drink
watee," Nee wret I'zn telling you is that we're in a position now to give you a
litLle erlt and what I'm telling you is six months from now we may not be any
where around to give you any salt. You see? So all I'm telling you is while we're
in a salt giving posture we want to give you a little salt because I'm going to go
along and I'm going to go along to this extent. The City of Miami once again is
going to be cooperative but I give you my solemn Pledge ulet speaking for MaUriee
Fevre alone and everybody else can speak for himself but X think this City Commis-
sion would support this position that unless we see acme very definitive areas
that are the positions taken by the people of Miami through their elected officials;
that 1 am going to personally go out and camPaign for a referendum on this thing and —
is JUL 31 1975
let the people of Miami decide. Now, this► is not a threat - it is a watrtltity.
1'ri just saying that somewhere a3Ong the tine, you know I have no objetytious
to listening to Kaiser &minors and to listening to all with all date respects)
to the bureaucrats and the people who are thinking what is beet. fut somewhere
along the line I think there has to be people input into thie whole thing and 1
meat we, the people.
Mr. Pluttmert Mr. Mayor, let me just make a oo nent. Jahn, 1 believe if 1 can
x believe 1 eat really hit the... 1 hbpe 1 can get right down to the nitty
gritty. 1 think this commission is upset because there was input put into this
by the City of Coral Gables. Ok? And that's how the Douglas Road originally
started; whether it was ari alternative or what it was, as 1 recall at one time
here was a routing down Ponce de Leon and they said the only way they would ,go
for that was if it went underground and you said from a financial standpoint
there was no way it could go underground. The next thing the City of Coral
Gables input was that it be on Douglas Road. They further stated put it en
4iami's aide. And obviously this was listened to because it did come off of
Ponce. It did go on Douglas and 1 think really what this cot tsisit rt is saying
to you ane to your department is.Miami is the largest. Mimi is most vitally
concerned. 1 think better than half of your system exists in the City of Miami.
We shouldn't be the last ones listened to. In fact, it le our feelings We ahbuj.d
be the first to be listened to and t think where you got into problems is, if l
can say it, you listened to the City of Coral Gables -not that you took an aetion
hut you listened to them first instead of listening to us first or listening to
them jointly --and I think this is where the problem etninated froth. bet contrary
to the Mayor's feelings, I can see the problems and until you get the final designs
these decisions aren't going to be made.
Dr. Dyer: I accept that as an error on our part. We will certainly work with the
City of Miami...
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Rev. Gibson: You know we never have no advocates there. You know? Man, I ain't
abee'..: to buy that this morning. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. You
er;oe wear really worries me also; on Flagler Street, you know what is going to
happen to the heart of the city when you deal with that? All those businesses
on Flagler -let me point out something to this commission. You know I'm a little
bit disturbed that all that business area, and I want to say something that I
shouldn't say because you know you dogs never forgive me; but you know when I see
you comae through Flagler like you're coming I'm reminded about railroad shop addit-
ion; I'm reminded about the expressway - Oh Gibson, you're a bad boy. You know
what I'm talking about? And we're saying that we need people in the City of Miami
to ray taxes. I don't know if the Mayor is aware of what this West Flagler business
mean,. Right! Doctor, you can see I went to bed early last night.
Mayor Ferre. Well, this is really a discussion, I don't think there is any formal
action for us to take at this point.
Dr. Dyer: mayor, if I might I'd like to assure you that we'd like to work very
closely with you in the next stage if we ever get there. If we don't we obviously
won't e, ce:eee anything on it. The significance is..there was no intent to my know-
1' ? tc do anything that would harm the interest of the City of Miami. In fact,
ee plan es we see it would greatly support the urban development and redevelop-
ment objectives of the City of Miami:.and I think we support that very strongly.
2layo:: Ferre: And I believe that, John.
Dr. Dyer: We really think we're a lot closer together than perhaps you think we
are at this point.
tayee Ferre; We're just a little nervous because you know we've been awful close
before but we've never quite made it. And once you've been a bride groom and been
stood up at the alter a couple of times you get a little gun shy when you're up
tha th:1.r3 time,
Dr, Dyer; I'll take your comments and suggestions on meeting the City of Coral
Gables and the others and we'll proceed if it is appropriate to go ahead and get
these first three worked out very quickly.
Mayor Perm; You see, I think Plummer really said the most significant thing today
because really what he said was that you say you have no strong position but 'that's
not so because you've already taken a position. Look John, the first preliminary
drawing and the first design was going, as you well remember, through Ponce de i~een ,,
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and going right through Coral Gables and then you modified it. riot only did
you modify it but you put it over on the City of Miami's side of bouglas Road.
Mow don't come telling me that somebody didn't have some input into that.
All I'm saying is look, we accept your good faith. And I do, I honestly and
firmly believe that you are a man of integrity and good faith. But you know
we were talking yesterday about discrimination in the City of Miami. Let ma
tell you what my conclusion of it was. I don't think that you find too many
people going out and conscientiously maliciously discriminating. It is built
ih institutional discrimination and that is more fearful. T'itat is to Theis worse
bedause there is ho way you can grab it, There is rc way there is a handle on
that one and it just happens. It is insidious and it happens at the end it's
the results where you eee it. You can't prove it along the road. You can only
prove it When you see the results of it. You know, that we go out and hire 900
people and all of the whites end up going into the Civil Service and the minor-
ities 'go over to Mari Power. You know'? NOW I know there are 20 reasons why that
happens - but there it is. And that ie what the problem is and what I'm concerned
is not your good will and not your good intentions but the institutional nature
of the beast that ends up where we end up getting the short end of the stick.
Dr. Wet: What you're telling us is we'd better take Affirmative Action to deal
with the city's interests.
Rev. Gibson: Right! And Mr. Mayor, the difference ie..the institutional business
has the blessing. You know there isn't nothing like that blessing that you get.
It's a of conscience. You know let's you lie down easy, walk about...
Conveniently, that's what we're saying and we ....
Mayor Ferre: We're nervous, John.
Mr. Andrew P. crouch: Mr. Mayor, before Dr. Dyer leaves because we've been work-
ing with Dr. Dyer I secs Lhings that are positive that maybe haven't really been
brought out today and I would like to just bring them up. On the first item, and
the first three items are the ones that are the most crucial and pressing as far
as we are concerned and the way we've been working on them, the first thing on
Le 1cune Road Dr. Dyer is telling you that there will be a meeting and representa-
tives of the City Commission and the Coral Gables Commission and the staffs of
all three agencies involved to go over this thing and to start the matter in Sept-
ember. He says the fall and that sounds like a long way off but in September we
would be meeting on that and we would be looking for the City Commission to appoint
such a representative. He's telling you on Item 2 on Flagler that he agrees and
he will do what the City Commission wants and that would be their recommendation.
On 3 he is saying that we are presently on staff level meeting on the mini -system
and we would be coming back to the City and County Commission with recommendations
for joint action on this probably in September. Now those are positive things
that I think that maybe we've missed today in the way this thing has gone.
Mayor Ferree No, you know what happens, Andy, is the nature of the beast is such,
and that's unfortunate that we in society end up looking at the negative of things.
But ycu know yesterday, and with all due respects to the Miami Herald they put out
all the bad things that happened and there were some real good things that happened.
They didn't talk about that. None of the good comes out but of course, Michael
Carter ce, and that's the big headline and that's cool and that's the thing the
that the article really is based on. But all the good things - where were
they? Ana I think we get ourselves into a frame of mind of looking at negative
thing: rather than positive things. But John, we're well aware that there i*
good faith and there has been a lot of positive work done and that I think there
is going to be a lot more and we thank you for your interest and for the courtesy
of coming down and talking to us.
Dr. Dyer: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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U L!C,;.. EA11Nd SLID WASTE TRANSFER StAttON,N WI 20 St & 1 Avg,
Mr. Andrews: Mr, Mayor and members of the commission, till attempt to give you
a real quirk digest of what has taken plate and then ask MA, Acton to add to
Chat, to 10 1 the oity employed the firth of tree :leer Mesta to assist the
city in determining how beet to provide the disposal and how beet tt provide our
sanitary solid waste diepoeal eyetein for the City, That included final disposal
of the material and at that time ,we were thinking in terms of ',itineration, But
that study bore out that there was alternate methbde that were superior to Lnoin�
eratiott and that was to find eon'e way of eolleeting all of the garbage and trash
et ore location in the city in the form of a transferr station or a grinding stat-
ion then take that Material out to the outskirts of the City on a controlled
Wilds , provide a landfill meant§ of disposal. Vhile this process was going on
and we recieved a report and were reaching oonvietione that this should be aeeell.
plished that way Metropolitan Dade County through the Decade of Progress fond
issue and recognizing that solid waste disposal should be the responsibility of
Dade county they undertook studies and had an area wide study made which also
proved that collection points should be assembled throughout the county and that
there should be one final location for disposal. The cites that were selected,
one for Cora]. Gables in that general area and one at the City of Miami and princi-
pally at the 20th Street location. The city has worked very closely with the
county. The plans have been formulated preliminarily for the location of a trans-
fer station at the 20th street properties, at the western edge of that property
and Mr. Acton will describe that a little more carefully but I want to point out
that when we're finished 1 have a specific recommendation as to where this plant
should be located at 20th Street. We've examined many other sites and many other
locations as the result of Planning Board involvement in this shatter in reviewing
the 20th Street site as a location for a transfer station and we find that in our
judgement the 20th Street is really the only logical and economical site to develop
for this purpose. Mr. Acton, will you...
Mrs. Cordon: Can I ask you a question, Mr. Andrews, just you touched on it very
lightly. You said Coral Gables was also setting up a collection station?
Mr. ;k.drew ! well no, Metropolitan Dade County had proposed a transfer station
that would have taken care of the City of Coral Gables and immediate outlying
area adjacent to it and some of the smaller communities surrounding it. This
was located in the county at or near the Coral Gables Incinerator site. They
run into a very serious problem there...
Mayor Ferre: So eventually they'll end up using our site.
Mr. Andrews: No, not quite. Mr. Hollums who is here from Dade County can explain
that but now the county is considering going further to the west. Coral Gables
will either have a longer haul to that new location far more expensive to them or
be required to go to the final resting place of all this material up in the north
end of the county.
Mayor Ferre: Paul., one other question. That's fine for Coral Gables, how about
Miami Bach, North Miami and North Miami Beach, where are they going?
its :ter.drews: North, and Mr. Hollums can give you information on that. Miami
P a n is examining their own disposal facilities.
)Mayor Ferre: Then what you're telling me is basically....
Mrs. Gordon: Fxsmining where? Where are they examining?
Mr. Andrews Mr. Hullums, would you inform the commission more specifically as
to what the thinking is of Miami Beach as far as the transfer station is concerned.
Mayor Ferre: Good morning. I'll tell you, what we'd really like to know is, the
crux of this I think is going to be is is this station for the people of Miami or
is it for thr people of Miami, Miami Beach and Coral Gables?
Mr, hollums: The Master Plan for waste disposal county wide calls for a disposal
facility or some sort of a waste handling facility located at the approximate site
of the City of Miami's present incinerator to serve the City of Miami and the City
of Miam9. Beach. Both of the cities are now being served at that site, to continue
that location for those two cities, As to the other question you had the Cities
of North Miami peach end the surrounding cities in that neighborhood are now being
served by the northeast Dade Incinerator and will continue to be served by that
incinerator.
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Mrs. Gordont In other words Miami teach and possibly Coral Gables and Miar►is
in other words we're going to get all the trash. We get the sewage now but we're
goin to get trash Wee
Mt. Hollumt Not Coral Gables. 1 didn't go into that. 1 thought Mr. Andrews had
covered...
Mts. Gordon: Yes, but he also was vague about it.
Mr. Nollu ►s: Well, I'll explain it very simply to you. The county has proposed
as a part of this countywide master plan to install a similar transfer station,
that is similar to the one we're proposing here at the site of the Coral Gables
incinerator which has been ehut down and we are negotiating with the city to have
the city bake available to the county that site for a transfer station which mould
then serve the City of Coral Gables, South Miami. West Miami and unincorporated
areas surrounding that.
Mr. Plummer: But you make no personal guarantee that it won't happen in the future?
That in the future that the City of Miami site will not be Used by anyone else.
You can't make that guarantee.
Mr. Hollume: That would be assured; 1 think that idea would be assured by look-
ing at the plan itself and the capacities of the several components in that plan.
The plant that we're proposing for the City of Miami mould have a 1200 ton per
day capacity which is only that much that could handle the City of Miami and Miami
Beach and the Coral tables plant is a smaller plant for just handling...
Mrs. Gordon: Be specific on the location, please, of the Coral Gables plant.
Mr. iollums: The location is at S.W. 72nd Avenue south of Coral Way about a
quarter mile south of Coral Way. Now we're negotiating with the City of Coral
Gables now for the use of that site. If the city for any reason should be un-
willing to let us have that site... If the City of Coral Gables for any reason
should be unwilling to let their incinerator site be used by the county for a
transfer station then the county will simply put that transfer station on county
owned proeerty several miles to the west at a place known as the Kendall Home and
Hospital, a former home and hospital site out there which is out there at 107th
Avenue between Sunset Drive and Kendall Drive. So we have that location available
to us to use which would serve the region equally well but would be at a disadvant-
age to the City of Coral Gables because their haul distance would be greater. The
same thing applies to the City of Miami. The only reason why our master plan calls
for a waste disposal component here is to serve the City of Miami and of course
Miami Beach who are already being served at the same site. And if this is not pos-
sible to be done then the only alternative would be for the cities of Miami and
Miami Beach to bring their waste to the county's disposal plant which is 10 miles
west of the city.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't see that as the only alternative.
Mr. Hollums: Under the master plan, I'm speaking of.
Mr. Plw::me:.; Well, ok, fine because you know let me state my position at the
e'en beginning, and I was born and raised in this town. I don't think under any
circumstances is the present plan or what is proposed for the future compatable
to the surrounding area and I'm not talking about the improvements that have been
made by private people. I"recall very vividly when I was many times in Jackson
Hospital looking out seeing the beautiful site of the black smoke and all the
beauty of a garbage incinerator out of my hospital window. So to me it is not
compatable at all. I think another viable alternative would be to investigate
other areas. Let me express a concern and then I have a question I want to make
sure is covered by whoever is going to rake the presentation. The concern I
think that this commission has is the same as you heard with Dr. Dyer. unfortun-
ately we were told certain things when we gave up the Water and Sewer Department.
We were told about how North Miami was erecting their plant and how they were going
to have the thine taken care of there, At the time nobody ever thought of quest-
ioning an 18 inch sludge line some 15 or 16 miles, in other words North Miami right-
fuliy and selfishly in their own way said, "Fine, we'll put it on site plan but send
the sludge to Miami," When we gave the Water and Sewer Department who was one of
the first people that was put under amoratorium? The City of Miami, Who were one
of the first people that got their water rates raised? The people of the City of
Miami, We gave them the library system with one simple stipulation that we thought
we should have representation from the City of Miami, not the majority, just repro-
sentation. we find now that's not the case, They're trying to eliminate those
three people. SP if it could be said it is the lack of faith between the two -r
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organisations that you are caught up in here today. Now, the question that t
hope will be covered because it is not yet clear to mei that is property that is
owned by the people of the City of Miami. That Le a faeility that was built by
the people of the City of Miami. If this is to be proposed transfer and Metro,.
politer bec&e County is to buy or erect a he+w plant on this or another site who
is going to gat compensated for that piece of property, the value of that piece
of property and where does the city's financing come ir'r other than the normal 2?%
of the gap that we pay for bade County anyhbWO So l hope that question will be
thoroughly explored because 20 acres has got to be worth a considerable piece of
change so I hope it is involved in the conversation.
Mayor Ferrel before you get into that, Flip, ...
Mr. Plutmner: twat i'tn really saying, air, the City of Miami is a little bit
tired of giving something and say, ""hank you, we owe you."
APPLAUSE
Mayor Perre At this point I would like to get Mr. Colin. Morrissey to step for-
ward if he would, please. I'd like for Mr. Morrissey to explain the headline ie
the Miami herald several weeks ago that you were going to sue the City of Miami,
or you the county was going to sate .. the Miami News, I stand corrected - A headline
in the Miami Newe that stated that you were going to sue the city of Miami. I'd
like for you to go over the background because you know we were kind of surprised
about all of that because we thought we were kind of working along with Metro and
we had all of thin discussion or did that have something to do with this trove
that we're about to make or not make now?
Mr. Colln. Morrissey: I think it had a lot to do with that, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: In other words you're playing like the federal government does now.
Mr. Morrissey: No, sir. Let me try to explain that a little better. Mr. Plummer
said it himself. That incinerator has been an eyesore, it has been a black eye
to the entire Dade County and particularly the City of Miami. We've had lots of
problems with incinerators. The Coconut Grove, somewhat unaffectionately known as
"Old Smokey" was closed down 1y the City of Coral Gables. In turn Dade County
closed down the City of Coral Gables incinerator. Two years ago we were in the
process of doing the same thing with the 20th Street Incinerator. We had gone
to the Circuit Court, we had filed criminal charges - the proceedings were there.
It was a very plain fact that the incinerator was a violation of every pollution
control ordinance, state, county, federal and besides that and more importantly
I think that anything it was a nuisance to those people that live in the area,
City of Miami residents. So we had proceeded all the way through to file injunct-
ive proceedings to close that incinerator. down. We started that proceeding two
years ago because we entered into a compliance schedule, an agreement that Dade
County would have the responsibility of disposing of solid waste all around the
county and to accomodate the cities there would be transfer stations located
within central points within the city so the city didn't have to travel too far
to get to the county facility. We agreed that we would locate a transfer station
in the City of Miami for no benefit to the county. The county has no need to
put a t.anefer station there. First of all from my standpoint we wanted to phase
oa: Lyat incinerator as soon as possible. So we agreed that we would erect that
transfer facility, build it and operate it ourselves and in turn the City of Miami
would as soon as possible phase out the incinerator. That was primarily a negot-
iated settlement and in turn for that compliance schedule we dropped any litigat-
ion at that point in time. Now for two years there have been relative peace and
a lack of headlines describing the smoke coming out of the incinerator and it is
not at this point that we're coming in with a heavy hand to cause any threats.
What has been happening for two years is that when the news media call me and ask
me why that incinerator is smoking, and usually I'm the individual who bears the
brunt of that, I've explained that the City of Miami has been doing everything that
tey can do - we've entered into a compliance schedule. In effect I've taken the
heat off of the City of Miami for two years and you've seen no negative headlines
because there was an agreement, there was a compliance schedule and everything
was proceeding along a plan that was thought to be reasonable by all parties con-
cerned. Now all of a sudden you're seeing the headlines, Now we didn't generate
the headlines but when I get a call and they say , "Why is all this black smoke..,?"
which has been particularly bad because of the wet weather and because the incinerator
is very Sorely in need of maintenance I've been forced to say there is no longer
any compliance schedule. I don't know when that incinerator will close down because
the agreement or the compliance schedule has now been put in serious jeopardy or
doubt, So we don't know when it is going to close down, The state has contacted
me and they've said, "What happened to the agree i to compliance Schedule which the
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city entered into?" I have no idea, If the trash transfer station is not built
the incinerator will not be phased out arid there Is no compliance schedule and
none of the legal entities responsible for enforcing the pollution regulations
have no recourse. It's not a metter of assault, if you will. It Is a matter or
that there is a law that is being violated and heed of us have the right to sit
beak and ignore that,
Mayor Perret Then in other words it's a 2 by 4
Mr. Morrissey: Well, it is - it hae that effect, t mutt admit. tut it ign't
meant to be used as a 2 by 4, It is a fact that the 2 X 4 was taken away because
of a compliance schedule, The compliance schedule is now being pit in doubt So
there is he recourse other than that.
Mayor Verret Colin, the vestion that cotes to nind immediately here is: Ok,
you do your job and you take ts to court. You won't have to do that, We'll just
ahtt it down and now What are we going to do with all of the garbage/
Mk. Morriesey: That it; exactly the re -aeon, Mr. mayor, that we were willing to
Sit for almost two years now and allow the incinerator because we realize it is
difficult for the City of Miami, ae it has been for Coral Gables. Coral Gables
had their incinerator shut down and they've had to run all the way to S8th Street,
a much longer haul, tremendous wear and tear on their vehicles and it is very dif-
ficult,
Mayor Ferre: Let me reverse the thing. Ok? Because it is always why did the City
of Miami. Why didn't Metropolitan Dade county get going with their solid waste
plan two years ago when it was advertised and when they were ready to go? Well,
because they weren't satisfied that the technology... But you know if you, and I
know you have several hats but I'm talking about you Metro not you personally,
Colin. Morrissey. If you Metro had proceeded the way you promised you would with
this plan and the way the people of Dade County voted and you had proceeded to put
up your plant then that would be the solution because the problem now is that there
are no alternates.
Mr. Morrissey: er. Mayor, maybe I had better just very briefly explain what the
plan was and what has taken two years. It all stems from the Decade of Progress
Bond Issue which gave us the money to get into this type of area wide or county
wide planning. But the plan primarily calls for a resource recovery facility
to be located out 58th Street instead of a dump that is sitting there now. Now
when that is there it is not really relevant to this particular problem because
the transfer station is what is going to solve the City of Miami'scollection
problem. You're going to bring it to a transfer station. The precise timing of
the facility has been somewhat delayed but Mr. Mayor, you wear two hats too and
I'm sure that private business can sometimes move much faster than government.
We're required to go out for competitive bids. It is a brand new area of technol-
ogy and it's very difficult to evaluate without something in existence in a com-
munity. We are finally at this point down to two particular individuals who will
construct a facility for us. We're in final negotiations. We hope that two years
after we select the contractor we will be operating a resource recovery facility.
Mayor Ft-rz,:1 Because this doesn't function without that.
Mr. Morrissey: Yes, it does. See, that's the point - it's independent. The
transfer station will allow you to phase out your incinerator as soon as it is
completed.
Mayor Ferre: Oh. And what are you going to do with the trash?
Mr. Morrissey; Out to the 58th Street facility.
Mayor Ferre: And dump it? You're going to compress it and dump it.
Mr, Morrissey: That's correct. Now see, that was the agreement. We went ahead
and we've a]ready at county expense hired Greenleaf Telesca to go into design for
that transfer station. Somewhat at my urging but not entirely my urging we've
set this to be independent of our resource recovery facility because we want the
incinerator phased out as soon as possible. So we've said we'll get the transfer
station beilt jest as quickly as we can get it designed and constructe4. So we're
half way into design, perhaps more than halfway into design and now at this point
any change of location would have a serious delay on designing that facility,
Mayor Ferre; You're going to have to forgive me but I'Ve heard that one before
someplace. Haven't you heard that one before? You can't stop us nQW With a
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six Loh line because it will have serious affects on the whole..
Mr. Andrews: Well, the reason that we feel that loth Street is the ideal 'beats,
Leh is from our knowledge of how difficult it is to find other sites Alen it
economically they could be satisfied. You take this plant and moVe it anywhere
within the boundaries of the City of Miami and 1 guarantee you you'll hate serious
ecmtrnu City objections rye matter where you locate it.
Mr it ere You know Paul, I agree. You know everybody loves progress as long
AO it doesn't affect "tie''. put you know Maybe I'm completely out of character
but t know of a great place. You know it just burned down night before last. Mow
you know that's not to be funny but what is wrong, for example, which is right
adjacent to the City of Miami line, with that area by be 7eune Road that is in
the county and it is accessible by expressway and what I'm really saying is that
ie all industrial, no residences anywhere near around that area. why wouldn't
that particular site be a lot betters There is no One to object, maybe the owners
of businesses who might object but you know I'M listening here to a point, how
beautiful this building is going to be, how well it is going to be hidden by fences
and by landscaping but why not put it in a totally industrial area'? That's where
it belongs.
Mr. Andrews: There are several reasons. In fact, three major reasons why that
is objectionable: (1) if you could legally obtain the land that would be one
aspect that could be eliminated as part of the problem.
Mr. Plumn+er: The county has the right of eminent domain.
Mr. Andrews: They would have to condemn additional land in that area. You couldn't
use the peripheral land around the airport because that was condemned for a specific
purpose. The second aspect is that that would create a greater expense to the City
of Miami 1:o operate from that location. The third is that you would have trucks
coatingin and out through new routing into an area, a stream of trucks and everytime
we change routing of our ash trucks even from the 20th Street incinerator to Virginia
Key, whenever we've changed that we've had serious problems in the fact that the
trucks are now going through different areas of the city. Now visualize what would
happen. You'e have these trucks being parked, serviced and taken care of at 20th
Street where we're now located. They would leave in the morning, go out on the
routes. Now they all congregate in a new area of the city to dispose of their
materials, go back out on a route for the second time and come back to that area,
dispose of their materials out west if you were using that site, leave that area,
come back to the service area to be parked and serviced and so forth. All of that
constitutes two things: A greater expense and a greater inconvenience to the people
of the city. We're all at one location now when we use 20th Street.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. But you know l would like to see a little bit more expansion
of the thoughts of the city administration. There is nothing to prohibit the city
acquiring property alongside of this plant for the same type of thing. There is
nothing to prohibit that. In other words the city could build their maintenance
shop and their truck storage area somewhere near in this industrial area. There
is nothing to stop that. Paul, it just doesn't belong in that area. That's what
I'm trying to say. It is not compatable to the area and to me an area; please,
I'm not saying that that is the ideal place for it but I'm saying in philosophy
itin nothing but industrial and this kind of an operation belongs in that kind
of an area - my opinion.
Mr. Andrews: Please, Mayor, I have to respond to this. You realize that this is
in an industrial area.
Mayor Ferre: You see, now you're getting deeper into the argument and that is, what
I want to avoid you from doing. I want to ask some questions if I may. Now I came
over here to look at these drawings a little bit closer. Now the selection of this;
this is 14th, this is 20th... _INAUDIBLE. The trouble is that it's in front, Rose,
don't you see.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't mind if you show the map to the people but I just wanted to
hear what you were saying.
Mayor Ferre: I'm Saying it is here but it is in front of all this and all of this
here and this is where the problem is. Now the grey, see I couldn't see it from
up there, that's why I came down here, The grey is warehouse, industrial,.. wholeasie,
4k? Now look at the gray. Now look at the red. The red is retail office and the
yellow is residential. Now, the more you go in this direction the more you're
going to get residential and office people and banks and what have you, The more
you go in this direction then the less you have, Right here ie solid gray, Now
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this id just a queatibn that I'm asking, instead of putting it here why don't
yoil put r,t here
Andrews: May we show you what we want to recommend finally after the presents.
tion but we're skipping over...
Mayor terse; Well, let the show those of you that are here.. I'm saying that
instead of putting it here which affects all of this why don't you put it over
here where you don't. What you affect is already an industrial warehouse. This
is art industrial area anyway because you've got these tanks and that have you
here. This is the garage. So I'm saying instead of putting it here put it over
here.
Mr. Morrissey: Mr. Mayor, if I could I'd juet like to make one pint and then
leave. I really believe this is a City of Miami presentation but t'd like to
Make it very clear so that it doesn't cloud anybody's decision that this isn't
something that Dade County is imposing upon the City of Miami. I understand
somebody expressed hostility here. But this is to accomodate the City of Miami.
bade County has no real interest in the location of this particular facility.
bade County's role is to build a resource recovery facility out at Stith Street.
Now z have an interest in wearing my pollution control hat that any major change,
I think your own Planning Department will tell you that to go out and acquire
new property and rezone it - anything like that - will cause a tremendous delay.
And at that point l'm going to be forced to put my Pollution Control Hat on,'
take my Solid Waste Hat off and begin some litigation on the incinerator. Hut
bade County as a whole has absolutely no concern over where that is located.
Now Mr. Plummer, we explored several alternatives, your own city has. And almost'
everywhere you go there is a problem. Now in the Le Jeune area there are federal
regulations concerning solid waste facilities close to airports. There are Pollut-
ion Control and state regulations that will not let you locate those facilities
closer than several miles near an airport. All of these may be gotten around
but perhaps all of this is going to take a very substantial amount of time before
we're through this process. A11 of these things have been considered. Your Plan-
ning Department has done a very effective job of considering alternatives.
Mr. Plummer: You're not playing on words khr;z ,jou say that there are federal
regulations in reference to close to an airport for a transfer station are you?
You're saying for an incinerator facility. Are you playing on words?
Mr. Morrissey: No, sir, I'm not. One point...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I just want to make sure I understand. I understood you to
say that there are federal regulations in reference to an incinerator operation
but we're not proposing or you're not proposing, you're proposing a transfer
station which has no stacks.
Mr. Morrissey: The one thing that we considered even in Le Jeune Gardens, there
are height restrictions when you get to the airport.
Mr. Plummer: It's abcut 75 feet.
Mr. Mor_is.t : In Le Jeune Gardens the height restriction was I believe 20 feet
and we couldn't put it anything over 20 feet. The property was purchased with
federal moneys with stipulations in there that it can't be used for this. Your
Planning Department really should be telling you this because they did go through
a very extensive search of alternative sites. I just want to make sure...
Mr. Plummer: Let me get a definite answer. Are there federal regulations pertain-
ing to a transfer station around an airport?
Mr. Morrissey: There are federal regulations pertaining to height restrictions.
There is a sta::.e regulation; now the rationale behind it I'm not sure. When
people write regulations they don't always take into account everything. If I
recall the statement it. is in Chapter 17.7 of the State Code it says, "No solid
waste faci1i.1-.'.t r within 2 miles of an airport."
Mr. Plumper; But there is nothing relating to a transfer station?
Mr. Morrissey: Well, that is a solid waste facility. Now it is a ver:' broad
wording. I fully suspect that if you walked up there and you explained to them
that this thing would be very unobtrusive to the airport that they would inter-
pret that not to mean a transfer station. But in the Le ,7eune Gardens site
which was preposed by people there is a federal regulation, It's a heighth
regulation. It says you can't exceed 20 feet and the stipulated agreements in
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the property were that you wouldn't eenatruet anything because what they're
looking for is an unobstructed approach to the airport. So that is a federal
requireMent,
Mr. Plummer: So there will be no misunderstanding, I never proposed the he
Jenne Gardena where there are resident§ and ' commercial businetss. Okl Let's
not snake any misunderstandings that Plummer it trying to put it in Le Jaen§
Gardena. The one proposal that t thought of right off the bat was the heavy
industrial area. I'm speaking north of 20th Street and west of Le Jeune Read,
that particular area in there. So there is no misunderstanding.
Mayor Verret Now Colln, I know that you're not here threatening ee,
Mr. Morrissey: Not at all, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor f'erre: No I know that and I want you to know that we've gotten some
letters from the justice department on some completely unrelated matter which
is Oh this question of bias and discrimination and the than from justice made
it very clear that they're not threatening us. But they think it is very
important that we come to an agreement which they hope that we would agree to.
It's called a consent decree. Now he just happened to Mention to me that it
is only a matter of routine. It is not in any way a threat but it just happens
that the Attorney General of the United ;states, Mr. Edward Levy did sign a
class action suit which is sitting on top of Mr. Ballinger's desk. Now he's
not threatening us with it but it is just a way that things happen with the
federal government. I recognize that you're not threatening us but I might say
that everyday Metropolitan Dade County looks more and more to me like the federal
government and I think we'll try to do what is right and we'll try... We've
got to take into consideration the will of the people who are involved.
Mr. Morrissey: I agree, Mr. Mayor, but just so that we understand there is a
law that has been written and in existence for a long time and it isn't a
threat but just as, you know, it's a fact that there is a law and even if I
wanted to; if I said Mr. Mayor, I really would not like to prosecute the City
of Miami they'd fire me because they pay me to enforce that law.
Mayor Ferret That's right, and you've got to do your job and I'm not questioning
that. And what's why I keep saying that our problems are institutional in nature.
and not individual. You see, the problem is that you have got to do your job
and of course your job affects us.
Mr. Morrissey; I think we all have an obligation, Mr. Mayor. That incinerator
is a black eye to the entire city and has been for some time and I think we have
an obligation, all of us, the county and the city. And those are City of Miami
residents that are suffering from the incinerator; to move very expeditiously to
remove that.
Mayor Ferret Ok. Colln, we're going to try.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, Mr. Andrews, let me just interject it because I
just wen'- and looked it up. The height regulation at that particular location
which I'm not trying to designate but so there will be no misunderstanding the
height regulation is 159 feet. INAUDIBLE
Mr. Morrissey: May I please clarify very briefly the point about the problem
of using the Le Jeune Garden site presently owned by the county. It has nothing
to do with height. The problem is that property was acquired with airport funds
and the Federal Aviation Administration requires that lands acquired with federal
funds, with airport funds may be used for no purpose other than airport related
purposes. This is not related to the airport and that's the reason that property
could not be use:.:.
Mr. Plummer; Excuse me, sir. Somewhere there is a misunderstanding, You're
speaking of Le Jeune Gardens which is south of 1Sth Street. 1 am speaking of
the industrial area; east of Le Jenne and north of 20th which is not owned by
anyone other than the private businesses of warehouses and things of that nature.
Mr. Morrissey; Exactly right, S am speaking about the other location for the
reason that not because you brought it up now because what you've broaght out
now is the first time I've heard it suggested but it was because previously on
the PAD hearings this item was brought up and I thought, perhaps you were discuss-
ing that.
Mr. Plummer; No, sir, I'm not talking about the Le Jenne Gardens, Pave, do you
know, is there a name to that subdivision, the area that I designated on the map?
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please, Mr. Mayor, I don't want anybody... I am not pushing this area. 1 am
Merely philosophy Baying that this ie ah area that 1 feel that it is compete.
able in. So let's not get any misunderstanding.
Mr. Mamie; Mr. Mayor and members of the eeetietien, we are prepared to make
a ooMplete presentation on all our findings ih reference tei this. I Can tell
yr u that we can go ahead with that if you with i tan give you the final teem,
metidatio that we've dime to both with the county and ua. tf you hear that
recOmmehdation and you're satisfied you can act on it. ff you're not we can
back track and have the presentation. but it might save bofte ti►e.
Mayor ?erre: Why don't you cote to the conclusion and then we'll decide whether
we want the presentation.
Mr. Andrewe: After going back and reviewing this and dwelling tin the Consider=
ations that were advanced at the Planning Board hearings. We went back and re-
examined an alternate that had been proposed earlier as ene of four different
proposals on the 20th Street site. We're prepared to recommend that even though
it ie greater expense and a year of inconvenient operation to the 20th Street
incinerator to locate this station further to the east adjacent to the 20th Street
incinerator. That is shown on the map to your right leaving that area to the east
free for its current usage.
Mr. Plummer: Let me understand that, now Paul. The one on the left is what was
proposed and the two gray areas, one is the storage area now present and the other
is the on site. Correct?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. Let me explain the map. The 20th Street Incinerator is located
using the map to the left first; the 20th Street Incinerator is that building right
there with its :amps show them where 10th Avenue and 14th Avenue are, please.
Fourteenth Avenu, 20th Street and 12th Avenue. The 20th Street Incinerator is
located there with its ramps shown in light lines. That is a small storage admin-
istrative building in the middle of the site and then the large blank area in the
middle is the area in which we park our vehicles and service our vehicles. The
area where the transfer station would have been located in that scheme is on the
Auto Pond site and the bank is across and erther to the east. That was the scheme
that from the sta:-dpoiat of the city and the county was only from the Standpoint of
operation and other considerations was the best plan. After the Planning Board
hearings we reevaluated another scheme that was reviewed which moves the facility
adjacent to the 20th Street incinerator further to the east. You see it is on the
same sight as the 20th Street Incinerator. This will cost approximately $50,000
more to construct in that location and we'll have about a year of disruptive area
there where we're operating our 20th Street incinerator but we can live with that
if the commission chooses that site.
Mr. Plummer In other words that's your proposal that he's holding up now.
Mr. Andrews: Yee.
Mr. Plummer: An the proposal on the other one is the county's proposal?
Mr. Andraw : Ho, it was the city's proposal when we went as far as the Planning
Boer3 hearings.
Mr. Plummer: George, tell me; I understand what he is proposing but on the one
on the left if I'm looking at this atlas correctly directly across the street
excluding the bank is all developed in apartment houses.- right next door.
Mayor Ferre: That's right. But he's not proposing that one so we've got to look
at this with an open mind. Paul, why didn't you consider the property across the
street from l2th which is also vacant except for those tanks?
Mr. Andrews: It isn't vacant. We have an important shops building and function
that is being carried en there.
Mayor Ferre; Might get some new shops, the county might pay for some of those
shops.
Mr. Plumper; Yes, when the snow plows get off of Flagler Street,
Mayor Ferre; Rey, let me tell you something about the snow plows on Flugler Streets
You remember we got 51 million dollars out of those snow plows when we negotiated
for that land on Virginia Key.
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Mr. plummert That's what you call stoking the coal$ itf hell. There is a differette.
Mayor Perm: Well alright, let's stoke the teal in hell again because we might
end up: what I*tn saying is that we go even further east. It Might be much loss
objectionable, we might solve the problem for everybody where it wouldn't be any
objection on anybody's part here and maybe the county 'might go along with build-
ing for us a stew Maintenance facility. They don't coat that mueh, do they/
Mr. Andrews: You can see the approaches that are
needed to enter the building and to place it over
shop but gets into an entire strip along 20th gtr
+sated and a relocation of a major group of facial
ates.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I see what the Mayor is sa
at the east end 1 remember saying a sign on one o
192d."
Mayor Ferree Let me explain in reality what I'm
that are here which have a right to complain beca
affected are affected in this area here. ...(:tat
reality of this situation, there is no doubt abou
we can't hide from it. We've got to face it and
I'm saying is ok this is a narrow strip. I recog
bad for a ramp to come in here and you put your .
architect but as see this this is an L shaped p
in this direction.
Mr. Plummer You presently have a road coming in
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, you'd better. haif Mr. Bo
how that's not just a parking ramp that you see a
old drawing.
aded, the rinpa that are
there not only interrupts that
that becomes quite oompli=
s that the oity owns and oper-
g also, Paul, that over there
those buildings "erected in
king about. These people
they are citizens that are
le) We have to face the
t We've got a problem and
ve got to solve it, Now all
e that. But that's not so
I'm only a half baked
erty which could be L shaped
st south of those tanks.
s or the engineers explain
side of the building in the
Mayor Ferre: No, it is for the trucks to cone up and dump.
Mr. Andrews: No, it is for the trucks to get underneath the plant to pull out
and take the material away that is compressed. You have two operations there
with two different truck systems.
Mayor Ferre: Hillis, do you follow what I'm saying? I'm saying use this as your
short leg of your L and this as your biggy where you have your building. Ok?
Your building would be right here. The only thing that's involved, you don't
have to touch any of these maintenance shops, is this building here which could
be replaced and put over here and eventually we could build where the incinerator
site is or some other place because actually the truth of the matter is this whole
area eventually is going to be part of the University of Miami and all hospital
areas anyway. You don't think so. I'm going to argue with you on that.
Mr. Acton: No, sir. The Planning Department has been involved with the University
of Miami and the Jackson Memorial and they have prepared a master plan for expansion
that will ti3 e them to the year 2000. It doesn't go beyond the boundaries of their
existing facilities.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, have you ever seen a master plan that is not obsolete in
5 years?
Mr. Acton; Absolutely.
Mayor Ferre: Which one?
Mx. Acton; Because of changing conditions... I understand that. What I'm saying...
Mayor Ferre: You 5 years master plans are good usually for one year and 10 year
master plan;, ..ze usually good for 6 months.
Mr. Acton: I understand that, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: George also remembers very vividly that 11 years ago whet' I went
on the zoning board when the county came for an ippliPation to build a ')u,lding
in a parking lot around Jackson Hospital it was 41ways with, "We're sta,-ting next
month to build a parking garage. and that took almost 10 years,
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Mayor Perrot Let me repeat and than I'm going to go back and sit down. All I'm
baying, Lllist is that instead of building it here where the Manager is how recotn
mending that we build it here, l think that will getaway from all the objectors.
The objectors know that we have to do something, we can't just sit and do nothing,
l think what we're trying to do is find the least objectionable, The least object`
able is the further away you can get from the residential and oomtneroial areas, to
this oaee it's going east.
Mr Morrissey: The principal disadvantage that I see just reacting off hand to
the idea, I certainly welcome alternative ideas, is that the traffic pattern that
would be used in the proposed location or in the City Manager's alternative locat-
ion would not change frstn the present traffic pattern now serving the disposal funct-
ion. If we move it to any of the other locations east of 12th Avenue the traffic
pattern would be changed. 20th Street probably would become apparently the princi-
pal entrance tb the site rather than 12th Avenue.
Mayor Perre: That might be. You might find out that 12th Avenue would be the
entrance and maybe 20th might be your exit. If the traffic pattern could be
handled with no detriment, no dianinition of effectiveness I think that site would
be ok. I can see though that this is really for your people to respond to, some
disadvantages to the city in that some Of that property is being used with buildings
on it for city purposes now.
Mayor Ferre: wellthose buildings needed to be either torn down or improved.
They're sore a'id maybe if you'll come up with a little money we might be able to
sweeten the pot a little bit. we might use those Moneys to beautify this area
which needs beautification badly and we might spend those moneys in putting trees
and redoing. This is an eyesore. To me, this is not good. This speaks badly
of the City of Miami. I've driven around here, that's a monstrosity. it's ugly,
it's old, it's dirty ane 1 think it is long overdue for us to do something. So
if you'd give us some of tnose moneys that you got from progress for Dade or Decade
of Progress or whatever it's called or wherever you can find the money and maybe
we can use those to not only give you this land but to committ to the community
that we will beautify both of these lots and rebuild whatever we have to for this
building that we lose. That solves the problem of the neighborhood. It solves
the problem for the city It solves the problem for Colin. Morrissey. It solves
the problem for the county.
Mr. Morrissey: That's a decision the city will have to make. So far as the
availability of moneys from the bond issue, it is limited by law to be spent
for the waste disposal purpose only and so we would have that limitation. If
the city wishes to offer the county a different location we would expect that
location to be offered to us as vacant land ready to be used for building the
facility on.
Mayor Ferre: Aren't you willing to negotiate a little bit with us on that?
Mr. Morrissey: I'm quite willing to negotiate as far as we can, of course. We
have that limitation though, the legal limitation on what we can spend bond money
for.
Mayor Fr:_re; Yes, I know, Ellis. There are a lot of alternatives you know. You
had '_esa1 limitations on that swap with Virginia Key and the first time I talked
to Jack Orr about that he said, "Oh absolutely not. The appraisal is only three
million dollars. We can't give you more than that." but we ended up with 5.3 million
dollars.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, in order to speed this along it might be appropriate
for us to take a position on this thing as we don't want it where it was planned.
I'll move that.
Mayor Ferre: Let's see if we understand. We are voting against this location
here. Is_ that right, Rose?
Mrs. Gordon: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: Now that is defined as the preliminary design bounded on 14th Avrnae
at 20th. So there is a motion by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Father Gibson to that
affect that this commission goes on record against that location.
ao JUL31197
The fallowing Aetiort was introduced by COMMitsit ner Obrdo i who
thbVed its adoptiOh
MOTION NO, 7S-703
A MOTION OPPOSING ,THE SITE LOCATION POp A SOLIb WASTE
TRANSPER STATION AT N:W. 26T T STREET Am 14T 1 AVENUE*
AS SHOWN ON PRELIMINARY bSSIGN sNETCH SUENITTED TO 1112
COMMISSION THIS GATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson* the Mbtion was passed
and adopted by the following VOteis
AYES: Commissioner Rise Gordon
Commissioner Hanolo 1teboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, dr.
Mayor Mat ice A. Ferre NOSS t None,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the one thing that hasn't been addressed that 1 want
addressed amid I asked before, Rose, and i want to hear it before anybody leaves
here - the county is acquiring city land. Are we going to be compensated and
to what extent? What has been worked but in the way of cofnpeneation? I want
to hear it.
Mr. Andrews: The proposal is based on attempting to arrange a lease or to deed
the property to the county because of the bond issue to build this station for
the City of Miami.
Mr, Plummer: But Paul, are we going to pick up the whole gaff for this acquisit-
ion of this property?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, fromthestandpoint that they would build the plant with bond
funds for the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Paul, if they didn't use the City of Miami property they would have
to buy.
Mr. Andrews: No, they don't have to. They don't have to erect the plant here.
They told us that. They're doing this for the City of Miami. That's why they
moved from Coral Gables and put it further out on county property.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's get that one straight too because I heard that one slipped
over before. The one proposed for the City of Coral Gables does not exist in the
City of Coral Gables.
Mr. Andrews: It never did but it's Coral Gables property.
Mr. Plummer: That's right. In other words it's off site of the City of Coral
Gables which is going to be the Coral Gables transfer station.
Mr. Andrews: But they own the property though.
M. Plummer: Hey, I understand. We own some property out there west of the
Palmetto. You remember what they tried to do to us on that.
Mayor Ferre: Well they did, they didn't try, they did. They took it, we don't
have it anymore.
Mr, Plummer: All right, we only got half raped on that one. But wait a minute,
what I'm trying to say, Paul, if what I understand you to say right now is true
then what you're telling me is the county really has no obligation to the city
but as a matter of convenience they're going to help us out.
Mr. Andrews; Oh sure they have an obligation to the city. We have been told at
least and Mr. Ellis Hollins has been politer to the commission that they're not in
a position to acquire this property.
Mayor Ferre: Well suppose we say we just don't have a piece of property to give
you, now you go solve your problem? And then Coiin Morrissey, he goes and Says,
"Shut down that incinerator," We shut down the incinerator and then w at happens?
Mr, Andrews; Then the city Spends about a million dollars more a year than it is
now to haul it all the way to 58th,
Mayor Ferre; That's a pretty powerful salt.
JUL 3 1 d
Mr. Aidrewst That's the crux of this whole thing.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, you know l react, 1 haven't said anything, but t react
bitterly to an incinerator arrangement where those hospitals are. Well alright;
trash collection = name it, call it any of it. 1 just think, of course naturally
l'm on the side where you care for the sick, I think we need to change the philes'
ophy and the concept. When a Man is sick you have no assurance than this isn't
the very last and we need to Celle to the point where if he is going we should
say, and I'm sure you understand this, depart in peace and not certainly with
all the trash and garbage and all of this business around them. Now I'm not
responsible for that because you know we built the government hospital there.
We have cedars of Lebanon there. We have that great Medical complex of the Univeri
sity of Miami and l just wonder what kind of impression we give people who cone to
tis. We're getting to the point where we are about to be the great medical center
between us and Latin America. 1 think we heed to raise our sights and broaden our
views. t just want to warn the commission. Now 1 know you're dealing with law
and statutes and all that business but I think that maybe we've got to talk about
beauty and aesthetics and comfort of the people. People could get money but
Money can't get people.
Mrs. Gordon: Mrs. Rockefeller wanted to say something I believe.
Mrs. Grace Rockafellar: Yes, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission. Mr. Mayor
made a statement a while ago that he said that this commission is looking out for
the welfare and the interests of the City of Miami and I think this commission has
set an example of that here today and that is one of the very things that makes
this mayor and his comnissio:, so outstanding among the citizens of the City of
Miami. You do look out for our interests. Now I know the final site is up to the
commission. Of course, I disapprove of it in the original location they stressed.
But as a tax payer for 25 wars in the city I'm going back to a statement that you
made, Mr. Mayer, two or three months ago before this commission when you said it
is becoming a habit for the city to give our town to Dade County and that you're
opposed to that. Now I applauded that as I'm sure every taxpayer in the City of
Miami did. We cre giving our property to the county. Now the county is not giv-
ing us anything with this garbage disposal plant. This is in the Progress for
Bonds and the c. tizer.s of the City of Miami are paying a huge amount of thie . We're
also going to pay to use this facility. It's gong to be owned and operated by the
cunty and personally I feel it should be in the county. But they also told before
the City Planning Advisory Board that the Miami Beach`was going to use this and
since it was a county facility that anybody could use this as the county deemed
was appropriate to use. So we don't know how many people, how many municipalit-
ies are going to wind up using this. So why should we give our property to them?
Mr. Andrews made the statement that he was going to recommend us deeding the prop-
erty to them but there was an alternative that he hadn't given much thought to and
that was leasing the property to the county. Now this could be arr angecho matter
site you pick if it is within the City of Miami to make an arrangement whereby the
City le ses it to the county and then if the county wants to collect for that
charge the municipalities that use this facility to pay that lease and let's let
the City of Miami realize something out of their own property that the taxpayers
have paid for instead of just giving it to the ccunty and I thoroughly object to
deeding any property to the county. I think it can be worked out in a more compat-
able was fo:: the taxpayers to get something for what they've paid for and I hope
'rol consider this and I thank you.
APPLAUSE
Mayor Ferre: Does anybody else want to speak on this item now? Well then I'd
like tc because we're getting behind again I'd like to make the following recom-
mendation as to what we should do. I think that we've gone on record now as
against the property on 20th and 14th and there has been a variety of express-
ions as to where his should be here. I don't think that today we are ready to
vote and l think in my personal opinion if it is brought to a vote I'll just
express my opinion, I will vote against the secoed alternative. Now I think I
would vote for the gird alternative if we can work it out and if we could get
Dade County to cooperate in replacing what we're going to have to tear down.
That's the least we can ask for and maybe beautifying that area a little bit
which wouldn't cost too much. I'd like eo get something a little bit in there..,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I still get bate and I want included in the next meeting
the cost of the acquisition of property of what the city is actually ei''ing up
and how much they're going to gain. And ' want included in that, Mrs. Rockafellar
just made a point that I hadn't even thought about, and it is something that we
had better have established pretty damned clear - that the county is going to
charge us for using that facility and transferring it out to the other and charge
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1
US for burning, I want to see the breakdown on that as to where we really are
making a hell of a good deal because I'm questioning it right now. So / would
like tht in the bµeak down for the next meeting
Mre1 Gordon: Mr. Mayorw it order that we may have a plan of approach and the
County won't think we're just procrastinating and we've vetoed one thing and we're
not interested in finding an alternate 1 suggest perhaps if you agree that you
set up a liaison from this comfiesion and t exclude myself from that position
with the county and with bur administration and code up with an alternate by the
next COMMissioh meeting which will be in September.
Mayor Ferret This is in the form of a Motion that we appoint, 1 will take the
prerogative of the chair and appoint Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plus Cier: You exercise that prerogative pretty often. I'll accept it though,
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Terre; Well, that's why I exercise it. You act as a one Man committee
dealing for the City CoMmission in conjunction with the administration to deal
with Metropolitan Dade County and see how much bacon you can come back home with.
You comae back with some bacon and let's see if you can come home with something
for us - us the people.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, so there will be no misunderstanding, I have no conflict
of interest. I don't own an incinerator plant. My funeral home has no connection
and 1 just want that made very clear and that there is no conflict of interest and
I will be dealing in public.
Mayor Ferre: I hope the committee of one understands, and it hasn't gone to a
vote here on this commission but 'I certainly hope that if we can work out that
third alternate site and do it quickly that we'll come up with that. Now if you
can't do that tr.en we'll have to look fore :something outside. would certainly
hope that we don't walk away from here thinking that we either solved the problem
or avoided facing it because we really need to face up to the issue. Let me very
emphatically express so that nobody goes away from here with a misunderstanding
the City of Miami desperately needs to salve this, problem. And there are a c^uple
of reasons for that. First of all that thing is a monstrosity. It is an abominat-
ion that we must get rid of, that incinerator. (2) We have got to move along with
Dade County in solving the problem for the citizens of Miami. Now I know what Grace
said but look at the alternatives. I can tell from being in not the same business
but in a similar business that it is a lot cheaper to take the rock and the sand
to the concrete plant and then mix the concrete than to ship concrete for 20 miles.
So in effect what we're doing is that in reverse. What we're doing here is we're
letting the people take garbage to a much closer place. If wemake the people of
this community take their garbage, the people of the City of Miami, all the way
out to west Dade County I guarantee you it is going to cost the people of Miami a
lot more money. So my interest in this is not only to cooperate with Metro but in
the interest of the people of Miami and 7 think that we have got to solve this and
I would say that Mr. Plummer in voting on this the request that this commission
makes of you is that you not only meet but come to a conclusion and expedite this
so that we're be able to vote finally on this thing on September llth.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I concur with you thoughts. I think it is important.
Mayor Ferre: Oh wait a moment, it isn't September llth. I want that corrected.
We voted to :Wake it September 4th.
Mr. Plummet: September 4th is schedule and there is no reason as far as I know
that we cane come up recommendations on the 4th. And seccndly I invite the com-
mission as well as any of the interested parties in the particular area for input
to this committee thinking.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 75-704
A MOTION DESIGNATING VICE -MAYOR J. L. PLUMMER, JR. AS THE
CZT' OF MIAMI'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR TUE PURPOSE OF NEGOTIAT-
ING WITH METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY ON A LOCATION FOR A SOLID
WASTE TRANSFER STATION, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE SUBMITTED
TO THE COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBEF. 4, 1975.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by a unanimous vote.
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Mts4 Gordon: Mt. Mayor, affording to the agenda we passed a motion previously
which would have taker fare o #g. Do we have to vote or #9 nowt
Mrs Plummer: 1 think it should also be held in abeyaftfe.
Thereupon a trietieh to defer Item #9 was introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded
by kev►. Cibaon and passed by a ehihiMbele vete.
JUL 3 1 1975
10. PROCLAMATIONS) PLAQUES) CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION ETC:
Presentation o f certificates of tappreciatits!' tot aseistatfe eiyen to t!+e
Tricultural Program to Mario Las Americas, Petrie, Aseoeiatieh Inter-
amer'icana de Hombres de btnpresa, br. William Stokes, and Camara de eonercia
Latina.
Presentation of Strolls of priendship and proclamation to members of the
lnternation Air cadet Exchange Program consisting of young cadets from
Britain and Israel.
C. Presentation of Certificates of appreciation to Mrs. Carrie Meeks and
Mr. Max roman.
JUL 311975
11, ADOPT PLANNING STUDY 'NORTHEAST COMMUNITY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STUDY°
Mr. Geroge Acton: r'r. Mayor, :mergers of the commission, before I begin I
would like to introduce to the commissioin the two planners that worked on
this particular study, Mr. James Ragsdale who is the project planner and
Miss Marcia Malesl:e. As the commission recalls in April of 1974 the commis-
sion did request a study of the northeast area. This study comes to you with
the recommendation of the Planning Advisory Board and very briefly I'd like
to show you elements of the planning analysis that were used to make the recom-
mendaticns as they pertain to police. All of this information is contained in
the Northeast Planning Study. The first thing that I want to point out to the
commission is the existing zoning pattern that does exist in the northeast area.
When you look at it you realize that the zoning pattern is reflective of the
existing land use and is predominately single family in nature and one of the
major objectives of this study was to perpetuate and to enhance both the exist-
ing single family nature plus to bring into better scale relationships theother
multi -family zoning that does exist on sone of the perimeters of the single fam-
ly developments. The existing land use pattern is reflective of the zoning
patterns that do exist in the area as is evidenced by this map. The major recom-
mendations of the study, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, as they pertain
to zoning is to change some of the multi -family districts so that they'll be in
better relationship to the existing single family zoning and development that
does exist in the northeast area. And also, if the commission will note in the
northeast area there is quite a bit of existing commercial zoning that does exist
along the two major arterials, 79th Street and Biscayne Boulevard that is not
reflect,ve of the type of use that does exist. So our recommendations pertain
to both the multi -family and to the commercial zoning that exists both within
the northeast area and along the major arterials. Some of the major zoning
recommendations would be to roll back some of the existing C-4 for instance
along the north side of 79th Street from the existing C-4 to a C-2 zoning which
would be more compatable with the existing single family uses. There are a num-
ber of examples along that stretch where the existing uses have little regard or
not really compatable with the single family. Plus along Biscayne Boulevard we
have a patchwork of different types of zoning which should :le changed to a uniform
C-1 zoning so that all of Biscayne Boulevard right down to the heart of the down-
town area would have a C-1 classification. Some of the R-4 zoning that exists in
the northwest portion of the northeast area has never been built to the R-4 inten-
sity nor is the R-4 intensity the type of zoning that should be applied between the
C-1 and P-1 development. So in that area we had recommended a roll back of zoning
to the R-3 classification based mcinly on the need to provide apartment structures
that are more compatable with the single family nature of the northeast area and
also recognizing the intra-structure, public intra-strucrures, sewers in streets
that do exist in the area. Now some of the ;major recommendations of this study
pertain to traffic and transportation. And very rapidly I'd like to show you the
major recorrmmendations of this study as they pertain' to traffic, One of the major
problems is the fact that a2nd Street di:i become a couple up with 79th Street some
years ago and because in the northeast area and other areas to the west there is
much single family development truck traffic is not supposed to use 82nd Street, --
iiowever, this is violated both in terms of the speed of the traffic and trying to
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eliminate the truck traffic as it coined Off the causeway. SO we have made
tbOOMMendatiena pertaining mainly to the signing of the area as the approach
traffic comes towards the west along the causeway to make it very clear to
the truck traffic that they are to be restricted to 70th Street and slot to
82nd Street. The signs that exist there now are very eonfuei,g. We have
Worked with the Dade County bepart tent of Traffic and Traneportaion in evolv-
ing new Clam§ that would eohtrel truck traffic and also reduce the speed of
those vehicles that do use B2nd Street. There are Constant violations of
the speed both for truck traffic and automobiles that use that route,. So
these recorrended signs address theeteelves to that particular point. The
other major recommendations in the report address opet space, recreational
needs and the recotnendation cones to you from the Planning Advisory Soatd
pertains to utilization of a particular site that is illustrated on this
snap it is site #A - all of that land presently is not utilized for any
type of structure. It is available and again it does, the way the existing
zoning pattern exists there it does pass a problem in transitioning from feel
to it-4. So one of the recommendations of both the department and the plans-
ihq Advisory Board was to acquire that site for park purpeees as +well as other
aiternatiVe sites in the northeast area to better serve the area with for the
Most part parks that would be less than neighborhood but larger than Milli parks.
the Northeast Study also addresses certain street improvements in the area,
specifically those that are served by the existing multi -family development
or areas that could he utilized for that purpose and also a recommendation to
improve N.E. loth Avenue to include both sidewalks and a bicycle lane. The
other nac,r element is the storm drainage problem and although the Planning
Advisory Hoard 31ci recommend that local drains be connected to a positive system
our response was, of course, that that particular solution would be prohibitive
from a coat standpoint. The Planning Advisory Board also made recommendations
about the cleaning and dredging of silt from canals which t'm sure some of the
members of our audience might address. We had recommended that this particular
issue be referred to the Law Department. and Public Works Department for an
evaluation. In other words the canals it that area do silt up to a point
where it becomes almost unnavigable. Th' other r think very important item for
the commission to consider is the Planning Advisory Board recommended a change
of zoning along N.E. 69th Street west of 9th Court. Now this particular parcel
of land was Boned by court order from R-1 to R-3. The Planning Advisory Board
did recommend this be rolled back. And our recommendation based on what the
Law Department had told us was that this probably was not an appropriate action
to take.
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Mr. Acton: it's the Wheeler. Commissioner Gordon, I know was quite familiar
with this particular parcel land as you are, Commissioner Plummer. That's the
old Wheeler... Right. This came up I think back when you were on the Planning
and Zoning Board. But their recommendation was to roll it back to R-1 so that
all of that arca would be uniformly zoned as R-1 as it was before the court act-
ion took place.
Mr. Plummer: But George, now that the court has acted and in fact overruled
us how can you come back now and recommend that we defy the court order? Can
we do tl .at
Mr. Acton: Mr. Lloyd can address that point.
Mr. Lloyd: The answer to your question is no unless there are substantially
changed circumstances. Unless we can show there are changed circumstances
which would show that it is now feasible the answer to your question...is no.
Mr. Plummer: So in other words what I'm understanding is taat the Planning Depart-
ment then feels that they have justification that there are changed circumstances.
Mr. Acton: No, this is the Planning Advisory Board that made their recommendation.
In other words we prepare a report for the public hearing at the Planning Advisory
Board. They oe through this item by item and for the most part...
Mr. Plummer, In other words what I'm understanding is
is justification that the circumstances have changed.
that to us?
Mr. Acton: This will Come out from the members of the
concludes any presentation, Mr, Mayor.
somebody feels that there
Are they going to document
audience. In fact, that
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Mr. Plummer: 1 would like to Mkt a couple �f demMehte. Pitat
Were you going to call on me/
alL
Maybe Petrel Mop 1 Wag Net 46ing to see hOW Mahy people Weft tO speak on
this ite.M. Mow many speakers are there/ Six apeakers. All right. Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor1 just for the record 1 want te establish as 1 did with
the area of C606hut Grave 1 am still concerned 1 sill still bothered by that as
well as a letter who 1 will tot identify the writer. I received A letter front
an area person involved It the downteun area which has not yet Mien been addressed
by this eeMlission. Whether it is tight or whether it's wrong this 66ntentiOn of
the writer is that if we do what we propose in the downtown area we're going to
affect his pocketbook by approximately $4,000,000, one lad owner and it's not
the Mayor by the way. But I'm going to estabash here as I Will ih the downtown
area that 1 have serious reservations about confiscating a Mah's rights without
compensation. I'm still bothered by that as 1 said in Coconut drove applies to
this area as it will apply to the downtown area e yes* we have the authority#
yes it heeds to be done but 1 think a third yes has to be involved and that is
to compensate a man for what he has paid for initial set of rights now being
reduced. So I'm making that a part of the record. The second point. George,
ate you (not intentionally please, and don't take this personally) but you spoke
of a piece of property which has been the subject of litigation now - i'm up to
the entrance there of Little River Canal - it's been the subject of controversy
as long as I've been around which is 11 years. George, where are we going to
get the money to buy it? Now you knowp are you embarrassing us or really embarr-
assing yourself? You know the first thing we always hear with anything that gets
controversial - Let's turn it into a park. Well, that's great and if we had our
way about it every piece and parcel in the City of Miami would be a park then it's
not controversial. But where the hell is the money coming from? We're under
financial problems. Would you address that?
Mr. Acton: Certainly. Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, as we all know
a comprehensive plan addresses the comprehensive need of a community. These
recommendations are based upon the need of that particular community to have a
park in that area. It does not address the problem of the funding necessarily.
What I'm saying is that in a comprehensive planning process we look at the total
needs of the community regardless of the a1iicy of our particular community to
meet those needs. But those short comings are ordinarily addressed within a
community's capital improvement program as just to exactly how much money they
have within various funding sources to meet total community needs. What I'm
saying to you...
Mr. Plummer: You're trying to establish priority.
Mr. Acton: Exactly.
Mr. Plummer; Ok,
Mr. Acton: And this is the first priority that comes to you from both the
Planning Department and the Planning Advisory Board as the need for a park
in that particular site.
Mr. Plux,mer: long as it is understood you're establishing priorities. I
don't want Grace Rockefeller to rightfully come before this commission in 30
days and say, "Hey, you promised us a park. Now where is it?" You know it
is understood that this is a priority not an acquisition. There is a big dif-
ference so I just wanted that for the record. Thank you.
Mrs. Grace Rockefeller: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, I'm Grace
Rockefeller and I live at 814 N.E. 71 Street, City of Miami. Now I live in
the northeast area and have for the past 25 years. This plan was put together
through the efforts of the Northeast Improvement Association which I happen to
be president of now but understand I can only speak as a citizen. Mr. Allen
Mettoff, our first vice-president who is also an attorney was here and had to
leave at 11:3G because he had a case coming up but Pat Kolsky, a director of
our association will speak for the association, And Mr. Mayor, I assure you
I'm not coming back in 30 days and say you promised me a park or Mr. Plummer.
I'm not going to do that. During all the hearings on this northeast I would
say that this was one area where we did not have a whole gxoup of obje;tors,
The Planning Department, Mr. Ragsdale handled these meetings and we really
have to commend 11:m for it. He worked with the people in the northeast. There
were a =Aber of meetings held and they tried to work in what the people wanted
and the people Mostly got what they wantod, Now the Plan as it stands as a
whole is a very good one and it is approved by the people, by the voters in the
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northeast area and also by the Platting Advisory Hoard. Hut l speeitii ally
would li to to address myself to one area of this whit oortoetha sty home and
the hones around ma and that is the area that Mt. Aotb1t just spoke to a moment
ago but the RE.1 between Oth and 'flat street. Now l think Commissioner Oordon
arid Mt. Plummet were the only two sitting on this oomr►iasibh that were involved
at that time and if 1 remember right you were both on the Zoning board. Now
there web quite a controversy over this. YOU tee, this lot, his contention was
Mr. ban Wheeler w1to owns these lots, his contention was that he was going to
build an apartment building there to take care of his parents for the rest of
their lives. That is the story. He brought up a hardship oast. He also brought
up the site of the lot, the odd shape of the lot. And if you recall many years
ago a previous City Commission that l think also Commissioner garden, Vice Mayor
Plummer Might have been on the coMMiasion at the time Mc flay Towers was rezoned
over the objection of the whole northeast area. The o mmission at that time
granted it. Mr. Hearn is still living, he's stil]. in our area and he has said
since then which every commissioner has said that was the biggest Mistake they
made all the time they were sitting On the City Commission.
Mrs. Gordon: Grace, where was that location?
Mrs. Rockafellart Mc Kay Towers. It's the end of...
Mrs. Gordon: Oh that's before our time. I want the records clear on that.
Mrs. Rockefeller: 1 said I didn't know whether you were around then or not but
nevertheless, in order for Mc Kay to get a permit to build this building from the
City Couraission he had to put a street through. Mr. Wheeler owned the land so
Mr. Wheeler sliced off and this is why his lots are pie shaped now. He sliced
off these lots, sold them at a high profit for land that he picked up at a tax
sale fox a few dol:axs. It's ok to make =a profit but then I don't believe in
giving somebody their cake and them eat it too. So Mr. Wheeler came back, the
Zoning Board, the City Commission and all the residents turned this down because
you can see the location on the map this is completely surrounded by R-1. The
only other one is this Mc Kay Towers that's over in the southeast corner which
isn't even actually across from his property that is zoned R-4 or 5 ( I've for-
gotten which it's zoned). But anyway this is completely zoned R-1, the rest of
it. Now you asked if there have been any changes since that time. Yes, there
have been. Mr. Wheeler came back before the Zoning Board, came back before the
City Commission and tried to get N.E. 70th Street closed which would tie all his
lots together and make it a much larger area. Well this was turned down. He
wasn't successful in getting it. So then he went to court and got the zoning
through Judge Duval, Harvie Duval who happens to be a close friend of Mr. Wheeler's
and at the time I don't know whether anybody here with the city yet remembers Mr.
Fitzpatrick, a former City Attorney who was very ill at the time. He was a very
nice fellow but he was very ill. Now I know I attended that court hearing. Mr.
Fitzpatrick asked no questions or hardly made any representation at all to the
court. It wasn't because he didn't want to, the man was sick and he shortly re-
signed from the City Attorney's job right after that. But nevertheless, Judge
Duval, there have been a number of letters in the paper recently where he has
done the same thing on Metro, on land that the Metro Commission turned down and
where attorneys were involved that he's zoned it up. So I would say that this is
an ongo _,g habit with Judge Duval. But since that time after he failed to get the
street closed within two months after he got this through the court order, now he
was going to build for his parents, he sold it. So the sale was contingent upon
getting the rezoning. He made a profit off of selling the land to Mc Kay. He
made another profit off of selling the land after he got the zoning on it. Now
the new owner tried the same thing. He couldn't get the street through. So what
he did on part of this land from 71st to 70th he built a private home which is
there now and is occupied. And the second owner has had a for sale sign up on
this land for a long time. Now that whole area has a drainage -it slants directly
to the bay. When Mc Kay Towers was built it caused such high water because you
have to fill the land up so high in order to build an apartment build and this
caused such high waters Mr. Wheeler himself had water running through his home
so he started to sue the city and the city had to go out and put an expensive
drain in back of 69th Street to relieve the water situation. Now if this is
built on, this particular little area here that is completely surrounded by R-1
that land is going to have to be elevated and every property owner on 4 streets
is going to have a drainage problem. And I heard Mr. Acton say a while ago
that while the plan called for a certain amount of drainage financiall. it was
impossible to do it. So what you're actually going to do unless it is .'Oiled
back, you're going to create a dam there at the end just this side of the bay
where in hurricanes and high rains all the homes in back are going to be flooded
out. NOW the city does have the power to roll back zoning, Nobody has a right
to zoning, I think I've learned that much throughout my life. You can roll it
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up or you Can tell it down and 1 think this was ohe of the utrat tette...
Mr. PluMmert Graft, car t atop you for a rihett.? because if I'm not mistaken,
ih the interest of bretrity, you or at isms is going to have tt5 document thesis
facts.
Mre. kockarellati Come out attd #' 11 show you.
Mr. Plummer: And t don't think anyone en this comttissibtt would be opposed to
you or anyone else documenting these fatty to the City Attorney who in turd is
going to have to recommend to us. but it is gbing to have to be documented.
Am 1 tight? So, if 'what you're wanting fro this Cott tiiesion this morning is
the authority to you or whoever you designate to document these facts and pres-
ent them to the City Attorney t'll make the motion right now.
Mrs. eockafeller: May I ask you a question? boes the city have a record, keep
records back that far' Because we had documents and we presented it to the City
Commission at that time. We presented our documents to the City COMMisaion.
Mr. Plummer: Sy the shaking of heads, yes, 1 was answered yes.
Mrs. Rockefeller: There are your documents. There le where we would have to go
to get them.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but 1 mean what you're going to have to do; Grace, you rr
someone else are going to have to document what new facts have occured Since
the court order because we're not worried before the court order.
Mrs. Rockefeller: I think this is something that came up before you too.
Mx. Plummer: yes.
Mrs. Rockefeller: When the new owner built this home he built it, he got the
plans for a private home and he had it all set up to put a wall right through
the center for a duplex and this City Commission made him stipulate in there
that it was going to be a one family home. Now that's on part of that Wheeler
property, that very home you're talking about.
Mr. Plummer: All I'm trying to say, Mr. Mayor, is it is going to have to come
as a recommendation to us that the City Attorney has in fact found nw evidence
or he has not. And all I'm saying is someone has to present to him the documented
evidence or your ideas on the matter as to what you feel justifies the new change.
We can't act on it today or at least I wouldn't without a recommendation of the
attorney.
Mrs. Rockefeller: But I called Mr. Anderson.
Mr. Plummer: So I'm saying in the interest of brevity is to just take and for-
ward that to the City Attorney and let him digest it and kick it out to us.
Mrs. Rockefeller: I called Mr. Anderson who sit: in on the Planning Advisory
Board MQetings and invited him out to look at this property and would be glad
to snow him exactly what happened and I didn't hear from him. I don't know
whether he's been out...
Mayor Ferre: Grace, excuse me for interrupting y
we've got a lot of things to do. So I just want
is ahead of us. Now how many of you want to spec
Who are the proponents of Item 10? We have 5. i
Are there any spokesmen as opponents? Alright, v.
an opponent.. Would three minutes be enough for
more than three minutes....
ou but we're hitting 12:30 and
to see what the lay of the land
.k as proponents of this item 10?
ow many want to speak as opponents?
e have one gentleman over here as
all of you? Does anyone want any
Mr. Frank Dannenberg: Mr. Mayor, my name is Frar.k Dar;nenberg, 2110 S,W. 13th
Street. I just want to make a point of clarification. Mr. Mayor, Commissioner
Plummer, when this item came up in front of the IA -arming Board we realized that
this was going against, defying a court order. F. question was brought up that
there was new evidence. This is Why, the only reason that we decided to put it
in because this new evidence could come out but not because we agreed o have a
roll back, just to listen to the new evidence and I just want to clarify that.
Mr. Plummer; Who brought the evidence?
Mr. Aannenberg; No, it hasn't been brought up in front of the Planning l3oard.
The question was that there was new evidence so we said Os, let's hear it.
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975 r' ,a,
Mi. Plt tier t Who brought it up
Mt. Dannenbergt I believe it teas some members in the audience and some members
of the board.
Mt. Plummer: Well, 1 think those are the people that the burden is going to be
on to document that er►idehee. 1 think this COMMittiOn is Well on record that
we're opposed to ati A-3 beirie there, We stood for that way and voted that way
until the cmtfts overruled us,
Mr. Hetmaf A, Thome! Mr. Mayor and commissioners, my name is Merman A, Thomas,
t lure at 1133 Belle Meade tslathd, I'm President of Belle Meade Heite0Whert Assoc-
iation. I w eh to thank the planning Beard...athd they haven't changed any of the
Boning in the Belle Meade setticn and 1 want tb thank theta all tor the good job
they're doing keeping our neighborhood like it is.
Mr. Plumnner: For the record, you're in favor of this?
Mr, Thomas: Yes, sir. I'rn speaking for the Belle Meade Aese,eiation from 72nd
Terrace to the canal, from the Boulevard to the Bay.
Ms, Christine Papas! Christine Papas, 1230 N.B. 83 street, Miami. I'tn concerned
with the North Bay Crest Canal which it bordered on three sides by N.B. 82nd
Street on the south, N.E. 83 Street on the north and N.E. 12th Avenue on the west.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, point that out on the map, if you will. Ok, that's
your area of concern.
Ma. Papas: That's the Canal I'm talking about. The canal when it was originally
dredged had a depth of approximately 14 feet at maan low tide. The citizens of
N.E. 83rd Street between loth Avenue and the bay are more than just delighted
with the way the street has turned out, the highway improvements that we've had
and the beautifications and the trees. It is a credit to our community that we
have such a lovely street and the Miami Public Works should be applauded for all
they have done. However, though the city has just spent $560,000 improving the
highways is has also intensified a p: bi,-?:t that has existed since our scwe:
streets and canal has been in existence. it :gas improved a drainage system w,iic.i
has through the years emptied its outfall from N.E. 83rd Street from loth Avenue
into our canal and from 12th Avenue and 82nd Street into our canal. These photos
well show how our canal fills with water, litter and silt after a rainstorm and
has been doing so for many years. I'd like to show you. These were taken after
the first rainfall after the cementing of the gutters and they clearly show what
happens. Usually you cannot see the litter and the silt as it is going into the
canal. The sewers have done agreat job of filling a navigable waterway with silt.
We now have a depth at mean low tide of 3 feet, if you can say that! We choose
to buy our homes and lots and build our homes...
Mr. Plummer: Can I, with the sake of maybe making an enemy, can I cut you short?
You're entitled to the Public Works which I don'tfeel is a part of this. The
Public Works should come up there and get the thing straightened out and that's
all you're looking for. Correct?
Ms. Papas; We want the canal dredged.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, well if that's the case we have the equipment to do it.
Ms. Papas: That's not what they told us, sir.
Mr, Plummer: That's what they told you. If they don't come up with the right
answer then we still happen to be their boss. Ncw you're entitled to an answer.
I think unless there is any question from the adninistration I think this matter
should be looked into and a report made back to the commission. Paul?
Mr. Andrews: Yes. I don't think Mr. Grimm is prepared to give a quick answer
on this with ,L :Laving gone and reviewed it hims(lf.
Mx. Plummer; I don't think he should.
Mr. Grimm; We'll look into it.
M. Plummer; Alright, have a report back on the llth of September.
M. Alexander Koisky; My name is Alexander Kols}.y and t live at 1240 N.E, 83 Street,
Commissioner Plummer, I'm addressing myself to the same situation to the study plan
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that has been prrposed here. We are ih favor of the study plan, However, the
study plat'i that has been brought up here says, "that the u efttrolled surface
runoff which is hot captured and directed t0 a local or positive system ihCteatea
the level of oil and fetal matter in a ruhoff which serious is degrading tb the
rater quality of titterMay." Maw the play,....
Mr. Plummer: Al* is your area the same concern, only for a different street?
Mr. 1 lsky: 'Vet* sire No, it'a the same street., the tame situation.
Mt. Plummer: Well, the action of this cotnmissibh right how we're telling Mt.
Crime► whose department it coos under to iheeetigate the matter acid tome back
to this eon lssion on the llth of September with the answers. 80 l dbti't tee
there there is any problem. There might be a prroblem bh September llth if he
tomes back acid says it is all yoru fault.
Mr, koleky: They've given us the answers in het-e and they've said what it was
supposed to be done.
Mt. Plumper: Kxcuse me, September 4th, t'm told. Yes, September the 4th. Now
what I would like, Mr. Grimm, whatever you furnish to us ih a Meta documenting
what you have found and your recOMMendations that it be sent to Mt. Kolsky and
the other lady who spoke in advance so that they can come here prepared to speak
to it on September 4th. Ok? Ok, fine.
Mt. Kolsky: Plus they had mentioned in here we were supposed to pay for it and
that's our objection.
Mr. Plummer: I can't put them down for trying. Pat.
Mrs. Alexander Kolsky Good morning. My name is Mrs. Alexander Kolsky, 1240 N.E.
83rd Street, Miami On this matter that just talked about, there has been amend-
ment made to the affect that the city should revert to Public Works and look into
to funding on the cleaning of it so it's just part of the planning study right now
as an amendment.
Mr. Plummer No problem.
Mrs. Kolsky: Ok. As a Director of the Northeast Improvement Association and as a
resident of the northeast area for 29 years I urge the City of Miami Commission
for the approval of the Planning Department's Comprehensive Planning Study with
amendments for our area. In addition to this we urge you to provide for immediate
enforcement of the recommendations therein. The citizens of this area especially
those who attended the workshops and hearings and those signed petitions I have
presented their views and desires to the city and are vitally concerned about
every policy which affects our area and have heard the corrective upgrading and
favorable recommendations in this study. It is a positive study, we know what
is in it and we wantit without any further delay. Our area is in danger and has
been constantly voiced and now it is time that action be taken. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Pat, so there will be no misunderstanding I think this commission
is going to take definite action today to the zoning and to the comprehensive
sk.;dy but I want you to understand that the one recommendation that I saw there,
that relating to traffic is not within our purview. It has to come from us in
the way of a recommendation to Metropolitan Dade County Traffic and Transportat-
ion. You understand?
Mrs. Kolsky: What we want is approval in concept and then we'll act upon each
thing.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. But the implementation of it is from Metro.
Mrs. Kolsky: Right. But we would like you to urge that if you don't mind.
Mr. Plummer: Well that's part of this. Are there any objectors present? There
is none been recognized in the audience. Is there anything further from the Plan-
ning Department? Under discussion, I want from the Planning Department or whoever
is in charge that all of the people who are being affected have been notified and
it is very obvious that there is no objection here today. Mr. Acton, Mr. Simpson,
I want it on the record that these people, all people that are being clncerned
have been notifies.
Mr. SiMpaon: The property owners have not all been notified except through legal
ads and contacts in the area. You must understand that this is just a general
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plan, Nov when they get into the public hearings on the implementation of
any change why then they will all be individually nOtified.
1,1r6 Plummer: Aut we have complied with all things that are necessary and the
normal courtesy notic0
Mr. Simpson: Yes, tit.
Mayor Perre: Now what this is, this is a resolution Which adapts the study.
040 SO we tee -ovate where we're at in this prOcessi We've done the bliftle thing
in Coconut Grove. We adapted a plan and it a qUettiOh of the implementation of
the plan where we statt getting into sticky areas as we'll see in a little while.
The following resolution was introduced by commissioner Gordon. who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 7s-705
A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE STUbY ENTITLED NORTHEAST COMMUN-
ITY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STUDY.,1975, At PAM= BY THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN AMENDMENTS, ?OR A
GEOGRAPHICAL AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY THE NORTH CITY LIM-
ITS, B/SCAYNE BAY, N.E. 70TH STREET AND BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr, Plummez, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Reboso.
JUL 3 1 1975
12, ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ARTICLE IMECTION 23, PARAGRAPHS 3 AND 4
"RESTAURANT SEATING"
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: May I point out one thing? Subsequent to the preparation
of the proposed amendment I addressed a letter to Mr. Acton and have discussed it
with hintpersonally. There is one minor change that I think he is in agreement
with.
Mr. Acton: Yes, and we concur with this recommendation. It is a change from "the"
to "a".
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: In subsection 3 (a) in the next to the last line, that's
line 31 on the first page the word "the" lobby to "a" lobby because we don't want
to hair split and take a chance that it might be misconstrued.
Mr. Plumpe.: Incorporate in the approval of the motion this outlined thing by
the -:ty Attorney.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Clerk,
of "the".
would you just... It would be changed from "A" lobby instead
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, TH2 COMPRE-
HENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE
IV, SECTION 20, AS IT RELATES TO RESTAURANT SEATING, BY
DELETING SUBSECTION 3 IN ITS ENTIRETY AND SUBSTITUTING
IN LIEU THEREOF NEW SUB -SECTIONS (3) AND (4); REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CON-
FLICT INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING
A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Gordon
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Mr, Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Mrs, Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Reba's°,
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Com-
mission and to the public.
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MAWor Parse: Now Oh the record lift teem #9 1 forgot to submit for the record
all Of the signatures Oh the petition against the Garbage Procesairg reality
oft 20th and 14th and t would like to, Mr clerk, flit submitting these into
the record.
JUL 31197S
151 OFFICIAL DEFERRAL OF ITEM 9 AND ENINNeliiknak
STATION
Mayor rerre: NOw the tteltt item is tteM #12.
Mrs. Gordon: On that item the attorney advises us that we ought to defer rather
than... YOU brought up a ptyint about the actions we took on this ite l think
we'd better get all the commissioners in here when we discuss it,
Mayor Parse: We made a mistake a little while ago. Yes, you and me and all of
Us. And here is how the mistake goes. When you vote, this is on the incinerator,
With you vote against something *Attie% is what we did... We made a mistake on the
incinerator. When We voted against it that in affect we do is extend the process
because we've got to start all over again. Now the way out of that legally is as
was pointed out to me by the Manager and the city Attorney is that we should really
defer and that way we don't kill the thing and then we can always take it up again.
See, this is a little procedural. matter. So what I'n saying is we ought to rescind
that vote and make another - we need one vote to rescind and then we need a vote to
Continue the item which is really ....
Mrs. Gordon: It appears to tne, Maurice, that number 8 we just leave it stand
because we've rejected that and #9 we rescind because we're finding a new locat-
ion. Does that do it? Number 8 is at a specific site of 14th and 20th and
that's out. We're not going to defer that because that's out.
Mr. Lloyd: That is completely out, you don't want any reconsideration. That's
fine, that's the way it stands.
Mrs. Gordon: No, as far as I'm concerned. I'm speaking for me and I this:: the
other commissioners feel the same, was unanimous.
Mayor Terre:. Let's not confuse apples and oranges. It isn't what we, none of
us want that. We've all voted. Now we're talking about procedural. This is a
procedural technique. That's all we're talking about. Now, if we kill it as I
understand it then it has to go back to Planning and the whole process; there is
just no we're going to do it in September. If we in turn defer it then we
can use that as the vehicle to vote upon something else as an alternate if we
want to. Is that what you're telling me?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes. Now we defer it for the purpose of attempting to find an alter-
native site...
Mayor Ferre: Now are you talking about 8 or 9?
Mr. Lloyd: Nine.
Mr. Andrews: And Mr. Mayor, you only took one action and I don't think you acted
on 9 I think you acted on 8.
UNINTELLIGIBLE
rayor Ferro: We now need a motion of Item 9 to rescind the vote that we previously
took. Is there such a motion?
Thereupon, the preceding motion was introduced by Mrs, Gordon, seconded by
Father Gibson and passed and adopted unanimously.
Mayor Terre: Now we need a motion to continue Item #9.
Mrs, Gordon; I move that we defer Item #9 and search for an alternate site.
Thereupon, the preceding motion was introduced by Mrs, Gordon, se^onded'by
Father Gibson and passed and adopted unanimously,
Mr, Simpson; Mr, Mayor, on that subject, when the notices go out next time I
thank it would be safe rather than give give this specific address of 1955 to
place an ad in the newspaper: and my notices "To consider the munici.pal property
et the general location and this gives you the flexibility.
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Mts. Gordon t Right. That's touch better. DO you need that in the motion?
Mt. Lloyd: No, he'll do that administratively.
141_N s or ZONING: � rt LY o AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN TIG RTA1L AVENUE
AND SNOE L IV MORATORIUM ON PORTION, ETC'
Mt. George Acton: Mrs Mayor and members of the commission. as you recall
this item wes deferred from the last tneetit1g. We'd like to rtin through
a series of traps for you to refresh your memory as to what... The first
snap shows the existing tenth as applied to the entire area, specifically
to the area that it directly... YOU recall it is R.-4 mixture and A-C.
The next map shown the recommendations of the Planning bepartn%ent which
was an attempt to provide a zoning classification which would buffer the
high intensity iZ-c zone froth the surrounding R-1 tone. This is the recom-
mendation that was contained in our report. The neat map shows the
potential alternative solution which was discussed by Ctmii.ssioner
Gordon that shown the R-4 extending across Aviation avenue. Commissioner
Gordon, if you recall you wanted to take a look at that particular area
along Aviation Avenue expetially at the tt-4 site. Now this particular
site shows the potential application of the R-4 across Aviation
and being surrounded by the new classification of P CC The next map
shows the need for an overlay district, in other words extending the
overlay district that presently exists along bayshore. If you take any
action to change from what is reconrtnended in the study you'll have to
take action on the overlay district itself to extend that. That's the
end of our graphic presentation. The map that is on now is the one that
commissioner Gordon specifically requested she go out and look at it and
the potential of R-4.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you saying then even with the RCC you're recommending
the overlay over it?
Mr. Acton: Yes, to make it uniform, Commissioner Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: I see. Ok, then my personal keelings are that your R-CC is
not better for that area but the overlay I do agree. My personal feelings
are that. Have you another map that you can throw up there that shows
what it is now?
Mr. Acton That's the existing configuration. The R-4 does go across
Aviation and it's surrounded by R-C.
Mrs. Gordon: Right. My personal feelings are that you retain the cur-
rent zone and put the overlay over it that you would control the area
which is what is needed and you would prevent the intrusion of commercial
uses as far up as Tigertail which is permissible in the R-CC.
Mr. Acton: Now you're saying the existing zoning as it is laid out which
is the R-C together with R-4 and applying an overlay district on top of
that.
Mrs. Gordon: Exactly, without changing the zoning on it but overlaying it,
to control it.
Mr. Acton: Alright, then limiting that area that lies to the northeast of
Aviation to four story height as the overlay...
Mrs. Gordon: Whatever the overlay controls are the overlay would direct
the same on both sides of Aviation not just on one side.
Mr. Acton: The point is that the R-C overlay along Bayshore is a 10 story
height limit and the reason that we had recommended the R-CC was to provide
a change or :suffering affect between the R-C on one side of Aviation and
the R-1 so that you get a transition of moderate height.
Mrs. Gordon; I understand your reasoning that you think the 10 story on one
side is not good and the 10 story on the other side is Qk but I don't see it
that way because it faces, it is a uniquely situated pieQe of property and not
an extensive amount of it in my personal thinking that you're operatinc on the
patient to cure one part, you might kill the whole person, That's the way I
look at it when you're changing it to R-CC and I feel that if you're going to
weigh the benefits and the detriments to what you want to do and what will hap-
pen because of it:I would prefer overlaying tho present zoning.
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Mr. Acton: Well, 1 judt want to make it very cleer then what you're saying is
that the,.
Mrs. Gordon: I speak for one persOn.
Mr. Acton: 1 understand that. l just want to Make it very clear though that
What you're saying then is that the lt�e existing zoning would be allowed to go
to 10 stories. is that correet on that parcel.?
Mrs. Gordon: if that's what the west Side of the street is that's what the
east side of the street would be.
Mr. Acton: 'When the R-4 right directly behind it would be limited to four
stories.
Mrs. Gordon: Whatever the east side, the west side would be the same on Aviate
ion. You understand fle?
Mr. Acton: I understand what you're saying.
Mrs. Gordon' I'm saying both sides of the street to the are the same.
Mr. Acton: Again, that does not give you the buffering affect that you need
between the R-1 on the one side...
Mrs. Gordon: You know I don't agree with you on another thing. I don't agree
with you on your conclusions on your R-1 with the planned development concept
being what they are. I think they're far in excess of the kinds of development
that that area should be allowed to take. However, since you feel it should
take it then this it not i:, keeping with what you feel it should do. Ok?
Mr. Jack Rice: I'm glad to see Commissioner Reboso here, glad you're feeling
better because the last time we were objecting because you weren't here. Mrs.
Gordon's explanation, if that's what the commission intends to do, I have no
objection at this time. However, it will at a subsequent meeting of the com-
mission when this comes again I am having sone studies -made and I hope to have
them prepared for a ntore fuller presentation. Hcwever, I don't want to take
a lot of your time if the commission is of the opinion that this should remain
R-4 and R-C which I think it should remain. As you know Boyce Ezell just came
out with an opinion and he sighted the Aronovitz case and the Hesten case which
was a companion case with the Aronovitz case in support of this new opinion which
Judge Ezell just came out with. The essence of the opinion is you just can't
have spot zoning such as this and make this R-CC when you permitted everything
develop around it in a different type of zcning and I think what you've done
here, and I have record with me as to the Coconut Grove Hotel where so many
variances were given and the Yacht Harbor where variances were given, and the
Office in the Grove; all those buildings and ever. taking along Aviation there
on that corner on Tigertail and Aviation there is now a six story building in
a lot much smaller than any of the other lots in the so-called new R-CC zoning.
That is only 100 x 150 foot lot or 100 x 200 maybe. But that has a six story
apartment house. to the north of my client's property and as you know I repres-
ent all t+j.se persons from Aviation 200 foot north up Bayshore'and for approx-
imately 400 feet up Aviation towards Tigertail right where his pen is across.
There is an apartment house right on the corner there. These people bought
their property, paid good money for it. Pr. Robertson said he paid $17 a
square foot for that R-C zoning and R-4 Zoning in the area and to now do what
this R-CC would do to him is just absolutely taking his property without due
process of law. And if you would like, I'd like to read you what Boyce Ezell
said in his opinion. You'd like to hear it.
Mr. Plummer: Jack, if the commission adopts what Mrs. Gordon has said and you
are going to have further statements at the next meetirg I think why don't you
wait at the next meeting and make all your comments than,
Mr. Jim Daugherty: I'm Jim Daugherty. I own a buildirg which is right where
the pencil is marked. It's called Stoneridge Apartments. I built it there
about 10 years ago. To the rear of that building and the one northerly of it,
the Odell Building, we have a pr'eculiar situation therc where we've got R-C
butting up to R-1 at the rear and.the Planning Board earlier recommenced that
some intermediate zoning be brought back to 20 feet from Tigertail at .;,he rear
of the apartment house, All of them are short apartments, All of us 'ere quite
illegal on how we're parking in the back of our buildings there, Those build-
ings were built before the number of cars seemed to be on the streets there are
now and it was their recommendation and I thoroughly agree with it that the rear
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ends of those twe a►partmente oh Tigertail, there's probably a hundred feet
wbire talking about, should be changed in accordance with the Planning Board's
rOCOMMehdation. bo I make myself somewhat clear there? I'm in total agreement
With what Mrs. Gordon has to say there in total agreetltent there. But in addit'
ion to that the Planning Marl i S reeeflebehdatioh, 1 would like that adopted also.
Mts.Gordon: I'm going to disagree with you there because at the last time that
tft !Net and before we defected this portion at all we toek a poeition by motion
to keep the line where it is fibw' and not to.expand it any further to the north-
westerly which is the property you're talking about. It's eh of angle there.
Mrs Daugherty: That little square in there.
Mire. Gordon: Yea, right. Because of the potential problems that could arise
from the expansion of the commercial type of uses that are included in the k=C
classification. Now ,..
Mr. baugherty: We don't want, you don't have to have 2-C there. Some step down
is all I'm talking about.
Mte Gordon: You're a present owner and futdre owners might have other viewpoints
On development. 1 know and 1 think rather, I shouldn't say 1 know, that .lack,
can he get a conditional use in there for parking on the Re.1 Abutting ReC7
Mr. baugherty: Any type of relief would be satisfactory.
Mr. Simpson: Yes. In fact, I was over there looking at it early this morning.
The cars are parked and the boat is parked illegally on that and it is the proper
subject of a conditional use for excess off-street parking.
Mrs. Gordon: It is a proper subject, therefore, perhaps Mr. Daugherty, you can
get further information on your own personal problem.
Mr. Daugherty: What I'd like to do would be just finish it off now with their
recommendations and that would cover it.
Mrs. Gordon: we cannot handle that aspect oZ it at tnis level at this ta,:1e
that's a separate, that would become a part of a separate hearing as a different
use to go before the Zoning Board. You'd have to make an application for condit-
ional use but Mr. Simpson will explain it to you or Mr. Acton or Mr. Luft, exactly
what you have to do. But there is a relief mechanism that you can apply for for
parking.
Mx. Plummer: There is a provision.
Mr. Lester Pancoast: Me. Mayor and commissioners, what we have here is a very
very sensitive almost a key to a whole residential area that lies leehind it.
It's one of a group of decisions surrounding the Dinner Key area which are com-
ing suddenly and perhaps belatedly to the attention of a great many citizens
because they realize that is something unravels in one part of the Dinner Key
area the rest of it can unravel. I think that we feel very very strongly that
the ma..,. y..ls here are to prevent Tigertail from deteriorating in any way
beiu..se that is a domino that would simply trip right on up northward. We're
also trying to work out a very careful transition between the area south of
Aviation and the area north of Aviation. Now changes will happen north on
Aviation but there are already mechanisms for their happening inteligently,
Therefore, we believe that the R-4 should remain as it is. It is a fact it is
there. It is a good neighbor to what is next to it; that the R-C should become
R-CC and that the overlay should cover both of them. And we want the overlay to
cover both of them because we think any move in this area should be very care-
fully looked at and reviewed to avoid the dangers that I earlier touched on. I
think that is the essence of my message and I think that the mechanisms here
have to be looked at very carefully and I hope we don't delay endlessly this
decision because I think that it isn't so coeplicated that we couldn't arrive
at a deci.s n •c' ,an it today. Thank you.
Mr. Ted Tschumey: Mr. Mayor, commissioners, my name is Ted Tschumey. I'm an
architect, I live at 3610 Bay View Read, Coconut Grove, I'm the President of
the Coconut Grove Civic Club, Rose, I'd like to begin by thanking you for bring-
ing this issue up last time. It did need additional study. I do thin:c that
you should reconsider your present position, however, from R-C to R-CC and the
reason is this: Nmc permits a FAR of 1.5 with a 10 story height limit. R-CC
i..s 05 with a 3 story height limit. Now what we're trying to accomplish here
is a transitional Zoning to get down and get compatable with the R-I to the
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north. Let's be hypothetical about this and assume the R` exists and retains
in effeot as you proposed. Mr. Daugherty tan dome in at a later date then and
redevelop to 10 stories. The apartment next to him can do the tame thing and
then we're confronted with a 10 story apartment beside ail R..1 district. tee,
that's where it fails and that's the Whole attempt on the planning Department
to down grade this thing tits it transitions gracefully into the fig district add
that is the basis behind it and that dab riot be construed in any manner as spot
t+t t;irtg as Mr. Pied has said. to that is the real is sue. In other words we're
getting up a situation right here that is either going to result in a hrickell
Avenue with a lot of high rises that are going to come about through court cases,
if in fact it stays at R-C or we're going to have to challenge it perhaps. tut
I think we cats carry the day anti the logic of scaling down to the R-1. It it
extremely important. 1 think you know how concerned the oitikens of Coconut
Greve are about this area and indeed about the whole area along here including
bay ?font park and blither Key and this decision is extremely important, much
rare so than 1 think has been brought out today. Thank you very mu eh, I would
like to reiterate that we recommend leaving the R-4 as it iss going to R,,CC for
the very important reasons that I've just explained and then having the overlay.
Thank you very rnueh.
Mr. Claire Filer: Claire Filer, 174e S. Bayshore Drive and on behalf of Bayshore
homeowners Association to make it short, we just agree l00% with the Planning
Department's R-CC recommendation. It is a natural step down using Aviation as
somewhat of a buffer and for the other reasons that Mr. Pancoast and Mr. Tschtuney
mentioned that we do approve of that.
Mrs. Gordon: You're saying that you are in favor of the R-4 going to R-CC?
Mr. Filer: No, the k•-4 staying like it is and the R-C going to R-CC and then
with the later overlay you will have the four story height limitation on the
R-4 parcel and then you'll have the automatic three story on the R-CC parcel
which is alright next to R-1 which in the R-1 areas we do have one plan submitted
for a fairly low density planned unit development of only 2 stories. I think
it would be wrong to permit a"possible 10 story situation right next to this
property in which we're going to be faced with this Planned Unit Development and
which frankly it looks like we're going to support as the better of two evils.
Mrs. Gordon: What is the height of the developed apartment house as I can't
recall right off the top of my head the height of Mr. Daugherty's property and
the...
Mr. Filer: Three and four.
Mrs. Gordon: You have four stories in yours', three. And next door to you?
Four.
Mr. Filer: They could be faced with a 10 story jammed up next to them. Thank
you.
Mr. B. Clark: My name is Bernal Clark. I've lived in the Coconut Grove area
the last 50 years and in the Tigertail-Aviation vicinity for the last 30 years.
I think I represent the single family residence people on Tigertail perhaps more
than anybody else. My property is exactly opposite the property that you propose
to change from R-1 to R-CC. I'm an R-1 resident and the single family residences
on both sides of me object to changing from an R-1 to a commercial zone. Now Jim
Daugherty said something about requiring a parking lot on the R-1 property and I
have no objection to his getting some kind of a permit to take care of his excess
parking but I don't want the commission to change the R-1 spot to any commercial
zoning whatsoever.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't think there is any intention for us to do that. Last meet-
ingwe removed that.
Dr, Janes Robertson: Gentlemen, I appreciate your listening to my pleas again
and I thank yot; io your attention. I own the property on the east side of Aviat-
ion there which is R-4, 200 foot frontage. I'm Dr. James Robertson. I live in
Jamestown Apartments across the street from us at 2721 S. Bayshore Drive, I own
the R-4 property that is in the middle of the block on the east side of Bayshore
Drive. I am heartily for many of your things that you have proposed here.' I own
eleven buildings north of Bayshore Drive in this that are affected by ;'our overlay
district and I have no objection whatsoever in these areas. The only two places
where I'm affected, it's going to hurt very badly, would be Jamestown w..th R-C
zoning which you will consider at another time and on Aviation which is R-4, Now
across the street on the center of Tigertail and Aviation right where his pen is
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On a much stoner lot you've allowed a six story building and 1 would like to
say that as en Whet, and 1 an far more vitally affected as an a ner than some
resident that lives blocks away who has great ideas for this section, I love
the drove just as =eh as these people do but 1 try to be & businessman and my
friend, lack Meath who is the thief loan officer and Vice President of the Keyes
Mortgage Company. 1've talked to him about it and there is no way that this
property can be developed with any further restrictions on the toning that there
have been. These buildings are ntoW 3b to 4b years of age old. They are one to'
two stories in height and that is the way they'll have to stay unless f can keep
what limitations ate there already, If there are further lin►itations their will
just be ho building. Thete is no way it can be done. I do think that further
rental units are needed in this area. Last week Mayor Clark in toning to
a four Story apartttent said there is a great heed for further housing for retired
employees, working people and things like this. we're hot trying to develop, we're
paying two taxes. We're paying city taxes plus county taxes and I think you must
realize that as an apartYtent owner 1 can tell you we have a long waiting list for
leas expensive apartttents especially studios and what 1 would like to propose is
all of the land close to Bayshore brive which is the highest cost at this point
with the new zoning would cost above $25►000 per unit with the restrictive thing.
That is why you need some further studies to see if this can be developed and
Utilized in this manner. I just say that it is impossible to use it with the
proposed changes and I would like to at my own expense pay for whatever studies►
feasibility studies and land costs and so forth and present it to you at a later
time if you'll defer all action on all this I would appreciate it. 'Thank you.
Rev. Gibson: Is he saying to us that he wants the opportunity to further study
at your expense? So that 1 could be knowledgeable, are you speaking, Jamestown
is there by the bank? Let me ask, Mr. Mayor, may I ask Mr. Pancoast a question?
I had an awakening, you can't believe that as long as I've been here I just found
out you know you turn off Bayshore Drive you turn up by Jamestown, 1 didn't know
that was a street and then there was another street, Clark going... Is that the
apartment he's talking about? Well, let me ask this. As a layman, please, under-
stand I don't know anything about... Ok. Yacht Harbor right across the street,
let me ask you so I could be enlightened. Yacht Harbor is there and nothing is
going to happen. Next to it is that other Sailboat Bay. Ok. So you're saying
Yacht Harbor, Sailboat Bay is in that block. Ok. From where he is on P try
going to Cie bank, he and the bank will be the only people in that block. Is
that what you're telling me?
Mr. Rice: That's right.
Rev. Gibson: Ok. Now, he wants us to permit him to study that area. Is that
what he's saying?
Mr. Rice: That's one of the areas together with Aviation and Bayshore you know
where you're trying...
Rev. Gibson: Well, let me say they seem to agree on a study for Aviation, I
think based on what Rose said. I want to make sure that I'm enlightened on
that triangular piece of land that goes from Bayshore all the way back to where
the parking lot for the bank. I' like for you whom I know and I know how you're
concern.,-..: alout... How does that afrect us based on what he has said? Now
remember you aren't going to be dealing with anybody else but the bank. You
kncu ?
Mr. Lester Pancoast: Yes, I think that would mean that you're allowing one
property owner to make a study in his own behalf. I think that in spite of
what I think I understood I think there is considerable objection by this prop-
erty owner to the height overlay. Did I misunderstand that?
Mr. Rice: Oh yes, he's objecting to the height overlay because there can't be
no development under the cost factors. Here you've got a man right across the
street with 22 story buildings who obtained some variances in order to put that
22 story building there and within a stone's throw of him you're saying this
man can't develop his property. That runs absolutely counter to the law. There
is no case that I now that supports that proposition.
Mr. Pancoast: Well, I've never even come across a phenomenon of a man proposing
at his own expense to study for the benefit of the city his own property to come
up with some kind of answer in his own behalf. I don't even know how to react
to that, I think these matters are community matters and I just don't know how
you can respond to such a proposal,
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Mr. Ted Tschumeyt rather Gibber, /Id like to add one thing to that and that is
that the JaMeatOWh is really hot the issue t of toutset before ut today. We've
aCted on that for the first reading with the 10 story limitation, Niaw when the
second reading comes up br. kobertson at put forth any studies that he hae or
Wants to at that time for your reconsideration.
gev. abson! Oh, I'm sorry. I just Waht to take sure we haven't precluded. I
Piet Want to Make sure that this iSn't final word, we haven't precluded the COW=
sideration of that triangular piece of land, IS that tight/
Mr. Tschumey: that's correct.
Rev. Gibson: Let the tell you why you need to uhdetstand what t'm saying. I
find I Waht tal be honest and fair by hit like I want to be by you; Yacht Harbor
is at this side of the street and here is one great big street that divides
Yacht Harbor from hiM. He has no other person to be Worried abut other than
the bank. /sn't that right, t Meah in that blOck? What he is saying is if
AM:Matt:Mt cannot go up as high as Yacht Harbor, isn't that what that means?
Oh, maybe not as high but similar dehsity, He questifts, All t would hope
that you, I know well and respect your professional khoWledge, would certainly
have for him an answer when you tome back plus 1 think he ought to be given the
opportunity. Whether I accept his study is one thing but I certainly wouldn't
Want it said that here is a man who says, "I think / could make a good argument"
and then I said to him, "Man, I don't want you to hear no argument." That says
I've closed my mind - I don't want to hear. You know? That's the only thing
I'm saying. I just want to make sure that we understand it but you know how I
feel about the position you men take.
Mr. Pancoast: I don't think that there is anything standing in the way of a
man making the study himself and bringing it to the hearing at the appropriate
time when that item is before the commission. That's just an opinion on my
part but I don't see why he's asking you for permission to do that, / ju3t
don't think he has to get your permission to do that.
Rev. Gibson: I know, Mr. Pancoast, but you know one thing - it is alway; nice,
at least I would like to know that he's... I appreciate knowing that he's
the study because you know I'm going to be asking you.
Mx. Pancoast: Yes. Well, you know that a large number of us have backel the
overlay so in our backing of the overlay you have pretty much our argument on
this matter which we've always thought was terribly important and we've donated
vast amounts of time to it without owning any property in the area at all from
which to benefit. So I appreciate your asking us and I hope you will continue
to.
Mrs. Gordon: Doctor, will you throw the other map back up on there that shows
the R-4 and the R-CC? I want to see the extent of land area involved. How
many square feet are in that area that's delineated in blue? Is that back to
the original line of the R-C or is that the expanded area as we're looking at it?
Mr. Luft: Commissioner Gordon, as best I can recall it's about 4 or 5 acres in
the Flue area there.
Mrs. Gordon: But is that line as I'm looking at it, is that where we brought it
back or is that where...
Mr. Luft: That is where the existing R-C line is today.
Mrs. Gordon: As 1 am looking at it that is the R-C. Ok, and you say it is 5
acres of land.
Mr, Luft: That's approximately, the blue area. I seem to recall that it is
About 4 to 500 feet up from Aviation and about another 4 to 500 feet up the
hill less the angle cut out of it which would be about 4 to 5 acres.
Mr, Plummer: Mr. Rice, you said that doctor owns the property in brown,
Mr, Rice: Well, not that apartment right on Tigertail.
M. Plummer: Let me get to the question I'm trying to raise, Other than Mr.
Daugherty and Mr. odelle who owns the property in blue ysour knowledge?
M. Rice; My client, Kessler, trustee.
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Mr, pivamer Oh, it is a client of your' s and you're here objenting On hls
behalf.
Mr. Mee: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, I was wondering where the other people were that were involved.
Mrs lice: Mrs Messier just died, Sydney Kessler within the last few months
since this has all been brought on. Now it is his son, Richard.
Mr 4 Plummer: But you're representing hit in objection?
Mr, trice I am representing the owners of that particular property.
Mr. Plummer: Do I understand, Mr. Daugherty, you have ho objeetoor► exeept to
that at the back yard?
Mr. Daugherty: I certainly do object to that R-CC change, behementiy I object
to that, But I assume that Mrs. Gordon had pretty much covered that with her
overlay...
Mrs. Gordon: I just stated a position that I felt. I'm listening to testironey.
I have not arrived at any conclusion.
Mr. Daugherty: ...and I condescended to her observations but I was adding the
other part on the rear to take care of a problem that has existed a long time,
that's all. But I am very much opposed to any such changes that Bayshore front-
age being changed to R-CC and I don't know of any law that's ever come around
where you can touch a piece of property that has already been developed in this
manner as is suggested here. It is just like going down and getting some of
Mayor Ferre's buildings on Flagler Street and say
Mayor Ferre: Now be careful, I've got an attorney by the name of Jim Daugherty
that might come answering you on that.
Mr. Daugherty: Well, all I can do is say I hope I see you in court.
Mayor Ferre: He is your son, isn't he? Is Jim Daugherty your son? I would
assume that he is.
Mr. Daugherty: I have a son named Jim Daugherty, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Who is an attorney?
Mr. Daugherty: Oh no, that's another Jim Daugherty entirely different._
Mayor Ferre: Then I apologize to you that was just a family joke. Obviously
it isn't.
Mr. Daugherty: I'm not quite that old.
Dr. Robertson: Your honor, on the night this was considered there were 19 objectors
and when finally the vote came at close to midnight there were two people for chang-
ing this zoning and 19 against it there.- And the vote was one vote for it and that's
why it was so narrowly passed and I feel that it maybe needs some more time.
Mayor Ferre: Well, it is my opinion that we've discussed this; we all know all
sides and it's now time to act.
Mr. Bill Jacoby: My name is Bill Jacoby. I reside at 1946 Tigertail. I'm vice-
president of the Tigertail Association. I would like to join my colleagues from
Coconut Grove Civic Club, from Bayshore Homeowners and the other people who have
Spoken in favor of the Planning Department's recommendations to go to R.-CC. We
feel that today's recommendation from the Planning Department provides an ideal
compromise between: our feeling for preserving the character of the Grove on the
one hand and Commissioner Gordon's concern for the non-commercial usage of that
tract up toward Tigertail. I think that Mr. Acton and Mr. Luft's proposal today
to go to R-CC along Bayshore and keep the rest R-4 but with a height limitation
is a superb resolution of this problem, I have been thinking since tie last com-
mission meeting of Commissioner Plummer's concern for the property rig.3ts of the
individual owner, This is a very Well taken concern, it is a thing thr:.t has been
on your mind for a long time, It is voiced by the owners themselves almost every-
time they step into these chambers it is bound to keep coming up, It is an issue
that has to be addressed 1 think, If you'll permit me just a minute to reflect
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Oft this. t think that there is a difference, a quality difference betwaeh the
O flcern wf a property Owner who is inhabiting or has his OWft plaoe of business
6h & piece Of property which affected by aohirig change or a prospective coning
Change. There is a difference betweeh that and the kited of OWfterthip in which
• speculative investor ties up a large parcel of property, seeks to develop it
for the sake of large settle financial gain ih a Manner which l think we have
'ht. characterize as speculative. I don't feel..
Mayor Ferroa Well, of course, courts don't make that distinetitk , do they Mr,
lrltsyd�
Mr. Rice: The courts don't make _ that distinction and Dr. Robertson Lives right
there oh part of this property a ►d he can't live in two places. My other client's
property is an office in which Mr. Pancoast had it rezoned to permit an office
in there I believe, or his father. So if you read this ordinance, this R-CC it
has drugs, newsstands, sundry stands, grocery stores, fruit and vegetable market,
hardware, Marine hardware, fish and treat market, delicatessen, shoe repair, :fakery
shop, barber shops, beauty parlors, dry cleaning agency, laundry agencies - that's
commercial.
Mrs. Gordon: Didn't we also add restaurants to it?
Mr. Rice; And restaurants to it. Yes, we did.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Acton? I wasn't sure, I don't remember exactly but I thought
we did. We did.
Mr. Jacoby: Let me just quickly close this observation. Dr. Robertson may
live in a portion of that property but I feel that when he says that he wishes
to develop as he did in the last meeting; says that he wishes to retain the
rights to the property and develop it in his own good time he's not talking
about his own personal residence. I don't know of a body in our society that
will stand behind a speculative investor and tell him, "We guarantee you maximum
return on your dollar." 1 don't think it is the responsibility of an» city
government, any federal bureau, any private organization to take upon itself the
obligatir r. to make lr to speculati"" n --,.tors .d-ealestate the differ
between what they'd like to get and what they might get if the welfare of tree
community is followed. That is my way of thinking.
Mayor Ferre: I'll recognize Commissioner Rose Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: I want everybody to know that I never coma to these chambers with
a predetermined mind, that I listen to testimony and make my decision based
upon facts that I hear in conjunction with facts I've already known. And based
upon testimony and facts I've heard and facts I've known the portion of property
zoned R-4 should remain R-4. Do you want separate motion, Mr. Mayor, because
they're not all alike?
Mayor Ferre: What would you like to do on this, Mr. Lloyd?
Mr. Lloyd: This would be the best way then we can tell exactly what you're
moving .,n ‘..Len we'll read the ordinance...
Mayor Ferre: No, my opinion is that she ought to put them all together so that
we know exactly what the full impact of the whole thing...
Mrs. Gordon: I'll state the intent then you can tell me whether you want separate
motions. Ok?
Mayor Ferre: Alright, that R-4 remain h-4.
Mrs. Gordon: The 10 story was bugging me and still bugs me and it w.3s the uses
in the R-CC that directed me away from the R-4 portion. I thought of the R-CC
in the blue portion as being spot zoning which was really my major reason for
taking the pi,.ion of retaining it in the R-C. However, I asked a question of
the Planning Department, how much lard area is involved in order to make that
determination one factual, and with 5 acres of land I really cannot think that
it is spot zoning to the degree taht I would have thought if it were something
less than that or a great deal less than that. Therefore, I would corsider and
my fellow commissioners you may or nay not agree that we probably have to take
the courage •- bite the bullet - and go with the R-CC in order to set the style
for the continuation of the aayshore Drive development to the northeasterly of
that property which Presently are zoned R-1. I still believe I thin% if we're
going to overlay on the west side of Aviation we have to overlay on the east ,-
•
Side SO therefor, the third pert of that t�1d beciame an Overlay ort that portion
of property,
Mayer ferret Alright* Wel11 take them Oho at a time. Make your first MetiOn.
Mtg. Gordont The first Motioh is tO keep the 11-4 14
Mayor Verret Alright* there i Metier' that that portioh which it 1.,4 in the
mtp before ut remains as ki,48
Mt. Lloyd: Yee, you will now vote oh that motion to decide whether or not ....
ReV. Gibsoh: Mr. Mayer, let Me ask. Mr. Rice, what Mrs. Gordon said, all I'm
trying to do it / heard them agreeing by and large with what Mrs. Getdon has
indicated plus 1 heard you agree. Are you together now?
Mt. Rice: No* we're hot. No. We want the zoning to remain as is where the
blue no they have 1-CC we want it to remain ReC. Now Mrs. Gordon says this is
it a 5 acre tract. This is approximately 4 owners own this piece of property
Night on Aviation and Bayshore my client owns that 200 by 150 foot piece which
is formerly known as the Pancoast Building. He vehemently opposes that beitg
changed. Under this Boyce Etell case the court when the same factual situat-
ten was presented to Boyce Ezell stated that you can't do this because what
you've done is you've taken my client's property right there on Aviation and
Bayshore when it is surrounded by 5 or 6 story buildings and just a block down
the street has a 20 story building, put a brand new road in there, got three
bars across the street and tell me that my client can't now construct it under
an R-CC zoning. That just isn't right. Now these people say we bought it as
speculation. We didn't buy this as speculation, This property was bought as
R-C property. They put their hard earnea cash in it. They supported you when
you wanted to make it a six lane highway. They paid the assessment on the
street. They put sewers in there for highrises. They put water in there for
highrises. Now after they spent all their money, made all their investment and
you have made this a commercial area by your own activities you've got a bar, at
Coral Reef, a bar at Bayshore, two has on Aviation east of Bayshore Drive.
yqu're going to develop the auditorium over here and a new multi -unit auditoe.um
where you're going to spend $4,000,000 and you're telling me that you're going
to zone my people's property down? That takes statesmanship to stand up to these
people and tell them you just can't take our people's rights. And I'd like to
give the Mayor this case so you can read it. I really should, if you'll give me
the time I'd like to read it myself.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Rice, would you repeat what you said about $4,000,000, whatever
you said? I didn't hear what you said.
Mr. Rice: ...those improvements to the auditorium.
Mayor Ferre: That hasn't been voted on.
Mrs. Gordon: Who said we're going to do that?
Mr. Rice: It's in the paper, I don't know...but at least it is being considered.
Mrs. Gordon: If they get elected in here then they'll have the opportunity to
vote on it I guess but I'm not... Alright, I'm only one. I thought I heard
you say...
Mr. Rice: I know you are against it, Mrs. Gordon and I recognize that.
Mayor Ferre: We have a public hearing on that on September 3rd, we're not going
to discuss that today,
Mr. Rice: But let me read you what the court said in Boyce Ezell's case which
is exactly what is happening here. It is the very same case and you're taking
my poor client, these people doa't have any money invested there. Mr. Pancoast
sold his building, he's net there anymore. It's my man that's got the money,
mine that's got the dollars and Commissioner Gibson, I Want to tell you, you know
When I was in the attorney's office we constantly developed areas to E-rovide employ-
ment. One of the employment in Which we the City of Miami issued theso industrial
bonds was the Hurlinggame Mills when the put their building on 5th Street, 5th
Avenue and about 26 or 27th Street there so they could provide employme4t. YOU
know these things that we're building and we intend to do with this proPertY which
are going to be very hige, ky the way, comparable to what ie there now like Yacht
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Harbor and Sailboat Bay: those things are going to provide employment. That's
net a bad deal. tt's going to provide net only employment but it is also going
to help the stores in that area.
Mayor Tercet .tack, we're repeating the sale things over and over again, You've
made very effective arguments and so has the other side and Mr, Jacoby i8 very
eloquent and Mr, t'ancoast...
Mr. Rite: He hasn't got a dollar iti the deal,
Mayor Ferret And you're very eloquent and Dr. Abbe soh it very el c juent but
now it's time to vote.
Mr. Rice: Well let me read you what the court said so when you note you know
what you're up against because we're not going to take this laying down and i
think you ought to give us the benefit of the doubt.
Mayor Terre: I understand. I think you as a citizen and representing your
clients have every right to give us all the warnings and give us all the legal
that's fine, you go right ahead. It's your right.
Mr. Rice: Speaking of fairly debatable and this is in the case of Victor A.
Ruchamp.. .
Mayor Terre: All I'm asking you to do, Mr. Rice, is please don't repeat philosophy
anymore. We've had enough philosophy now.
Mr. Rice: I'll read you what the case says. This is hot out of the Circuit Court.
It says, and this is the Beechamps case which is number 73-24885, Judge Ezell in
the Circuit Court of the lith Judicial Circuit, Dade County which encompasses the
City of Miami and in City of Miami Versus the court stated: "However, in
attempting to determine what constitutes fairly debatable," and that's what you're
deciding here today, "The Supreme Court of Florida has clearly indicated that
debatable must be upon grounds that make sense and they cite the City of Miami
Beach versus 'Lockman and they also say, "And although zoning :gust determine on
their own 1 h»si cal facts Florida courts 'la,'e held restrictive zoning
unconstitutional as applied to analogise lac:: situations." And it recites
number of cases and one is the Aronovitz versus Metro Dade County which is also
a very recent case I was involved in because it was a companion case to the Hessen
versus Dade County and that is about less than a year old. The affect of the Com-
mission's decision to roll back, speaking about the County Commission, the roll
back petition is was spot zoning in reverse which was condemned as arbitrary
in Manlowe versus the City of Miami Beach • This result is reached because the
court, the' county has allowed the building of highrises around the subject property
and now only asserts itself by rolling back this particular property. That is the
same situation we have here. In Stokes versus the City of Jacksonville the court
at 2:04 while holding zoning action unconstitutional recognized the situation and
stated, "Sovereign by its past activities has changed the character of the immed
ite neighborhood now refuses to recognize what it has created." And that is our
situation. I'm sorry I took the time but I think you ought to know what....
Mayor Alright, it's in the record now and I'm sure that is what you wanted
to establish. So you have that right. Now there is no further discussion on this
item. Commissioner Gordon makes a motion that the area that is now R-4 remain
R-4.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-706
A MOTION DECLARING THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT PROPERTY
PRESENTLY ZONED AS R-4, AND INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
SUBMITTED BY THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD FOR REZONING IN AN AREA
V07:.11:AETERLy OF AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND
SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE, REtMFiIN :'ONED R-4.
Upon being seconded by CommissiQner Plummer,
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES; Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. 1,, Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
the motion was passed
NOES; None,
Mrs, Gordon: The Second one was the area delineated in blue, following the
recoMmendations of the planning bepartrnent be changed to RELCC.
Mayor Perrot The area in blue Which is presently -C be changed from 11.-C to
ACC. Now is there a second to the motion? is there a second to the motion'
is there a eeebnd to the motion?
Mrs, Gordon: I'll withdraw the n btibn if there is nb sebbnd.
Mayor Verret Now the third MUM.
Mrs. Gordon: The overlay which is on the west side of Aviation be extended to
encompass all areas oil the east aide of Aviation which are hot Zoned kg.
Mr. Simpson: Mr. Mayor, t think it would be wise to hold the extension of the
overlay district until the Comrisaion Meeting on September 4th and do that on
second reading. That's what is coming up, ?ou acted ern the overlay district
last time. It's not on the agenda now but it will be on the agenda next meet,.
ing for the second reading and modify the Map at that time.
Mrs. Gordon: t didn't understand you, Mr. Simpson.
Mayor Ferre: if I may, t think what she's saying, Mr. Sit►pson. I think what
Coiunissioner Gordon ie saying is that on first reading she wants to amend what
we voted on last time...
Mrs. Gordon: Well, we deferred that portion for today's hearing and we have to
take some position, either yes or no - we either do it or we don't do it but we
have to take a position.
Mayor Ferret Now there is a motion on the floor to the overlay oh the east
side as well as the west side. What she is talking about is the overlay on the
east side as well as the west side. In other words it will be zoned R-C but there
is an overlay.
Mr. Plummer: Was the overlay originally proposed for east or north of A-dction?
Mr. Luft: The overlay was not proposed in lieu of the proposal for R-CC.
Mr. Plummer: Well, the Law Department is questioning whether or not it iias to
go before the Zoning Board first, that's what they're questioning.
Mr. Lloyd: Now the extension of the overlay you should not take action 'n that
today because it was not before the Planning Board.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, that was not part of the original? Oh.
Mr. Lloyd: No.
Mayor Ferre: Jack, why don't you explain one more time what the overlay, what
the affect of the overlay is.
Mr, Luft: Mr. Mayor, the affect of the overlay district is to apply a flur story
height limit to any district, any zoning district of R-4 or C-2 that is encompassed
by the overlay. It also applies a 10 story height limit to any district that is
zoned R-C within the overlay district.
Mayor Ferre: So then in affect then this property that we're talking about if it
remains R-C would have a limitation of 10 floors.
Mr, Luft; If it remains R-C and the overlay district is not extended it would
have no height limitation on it in the present density.
Mayor Ferre: And if it is extended it would have a height limitation of 10 stories,
M. Luft: That's correct,
Mayor Ferre; All right, Now is there a second to the motion?
Mr, Fiummer: No, the motion is out of order according to the Legal De?artment,
Mayor Ferre; Why is it out of order?
Mr. Lloyd; you see, what this does as t understand it it provides for an extens-
ion of this overlay district which was not originally proposed according to the
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new 2orting ordinaioe before the Planning advisory $oardi so before this boma
mission bhould act upon that it that gOttioh should go before the Planning 4dvis'
ory board.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm going to state my own opinion ab that till on the record.
tiniest we can extend that overlay area there they t am voting for that piece of
property to be A ..= . And it we don't get an overlay on it then I'm voting for
it to go to ha,.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. mayor, 1 believe that the proper motion at this time would be
that this cot mission direct the planning Board to consider the overlay extension
but tb the area designated ih the striped blue and white And if that doesn't
pass then the Mayor has made his comments very clear,
Mrs. Gordon: yes, that's our intention but that doesn't hold water because
until it goes through.. Go ahead, Mayor
Mayor ?erre: I've got a solution► If hose will make a ihotion that we continue
the question of the R-C to Pt-cC on that particular piece then that leaves it
open and 1 want to state that unless We get an overlay I'm noting to move it to
R-CG.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Lloyd, will that in any way, this pending action, Will that in
any way control that property? The Mayor is concerned about the interim period
of time between the action of a Planning Board and us at some future period of
time.
Mr. Lloyd: No, there is no way that you can control it in the interim.
Mr. Plummer: Except put in a moratorium.
Mayor Ferre: I would accept that.
Mr. Plummer: We've done it before in the Grove. We're talking about basically
one parcel and three owners. Is that correct?
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: And I don't think doctor nor Mr....
Mr. Rice: We're not planning on coming downand getting a permit if that's what
you're afraid of.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, then you won't object to a moratorium.
Mrs. Gordon: It happened to us before, Jack.
Mayor Ferre: Here is the way I think we can do this: (1) We place a moratorium
on this piece of property, all of it. You put it on a moratorium basis - that
would be the first st€.p. (2) You continue the hearing. This is a change of
zoning, you continue that to the next meeting and in the meantime (3) you ask
the Pla-ning Department to restudy the overlay in that area. If the come up
rccoruending it then that solves the whole problem. If they don't then I'm tell-
ing you I'm voting for R-CC.
Mrs. Gordon: We took action on the R-4 so
ring the balance of it. Right?
Mayor Ferre: No, I think what you have to
do we would defer action on the remainder.
Mrs. Gordon: On the remainder. And then
whole thing. Ok, I understand.
now we have to take an action on defer -
do... So in other words what we would
take another motion of moratorium on the
Mayor .Ferre: Righc. And the third thing is to ask the Planning Deaprtment to
review it and come back with their recommendations. Three motions,
Rev, Gibson; Mr, Mayor, I hope, Mr, Pancoast, you all heard what these motions
are, How about you? Ok then, I'm for the motion,
Mrs, Gordon: Alright, I'll move the R-C portion of the property be deterred from
any action until a future ,period of time, We have to take some kind of action to
hold it in abeyance I guess, Is that right?
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The following Matien was introduced by Coif iissiorier Gordon, Wht
moved its adoption
MOTION MO, 75-?bY
A MOTION bEPE NO I'f'trM 12 Op THE JttLY 31, 197S CITY COMMISSION
tt EPtNG tNTITLSO CRAMS or ZbNtt O Mtn NOItTAAST2IttY OP AVIAT-
ION ION AV' % tItTWUN TIOtATAIL AVtNtit AND SbUTI MAYSHORE DRIVE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
Anat Commissioner A0be tsrdoh
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
CC nunissiohet (ReV.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Maur J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor M;auride A. Perre NOES: None.
Mrg. Gordon: The next Motion would be to have a moratoriums, if you want to call
it that I've never used that term before. Is that the word you want, Plummer/
You waist to mote it them ok, that all building periiiits be held sip on that port -
min Which arrow to to a moratorium. 1 think that is the way we have termed it
before.
Mr. Lloyds Yes, that's right. It is a moratorium on the issuance of building
permits.
Mrs. Gordon: Unless approved by this commission so therefore, that takes care
of it.
Mr. Southern: That's the portion that's proposed for R-CC?
Mr, Plummer: R-4 and R-C.
Mrs. Gordon: The whole thing on the east side. We're talking about the whole
thing.
Mayor Ferro: This is the east side of Aviation under discussion.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-708
A MOTION PROVIDING THAT NO BUILDING PERMIT BE ISSUED IN THE
AREA GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS LOCATED NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION
AVENUE, BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE,
UNTIL IT IS FIRST APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
,:oimissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
NOTE; SEE RESOLUTION 75-759 PASSED AND ADOPTED LATER IN THIS SAME MEETING.
Mrs. Gordon: Now we're directing the Planning Department to bring this overlay
concept to the Planning Board for recommendation on the east side of Aviation.'
That includes all of the property not zoned R-1.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption
MOTION NO, 75-709
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING
ADVISORY BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE AREA WHICH IS GENERALLY
DESCRIBED AS LOCATED NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE
BETWEEN TIGERTAII, AVENUE AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE TO DETER,,
MINE WI . TITR SAID AREA SHOULD BE PLACED IN A SPECIAL OVER-
LAY ZONING DISTRICT.
Upon being seeonded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by a unanimous vote,
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Mayer Parte:
golOmon, kra
OGG you aga h
I rant to say that st frieete areUed here has shown the wisdom of
G rdon, and I want to eengratulate you *, Mrs. Bole corn. We Will
t a few weeks. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen,
JUL 3119?5
AMEND ORD 16871-, -�..., it Si"R,rc" s DENSITY, LOT AREA AND %4DTH REQUIREMENTS
Mayor i erre: Mr. Acton, you've got it worked otit? What is the worked out deal?
Mr. Acton: We did meet with the objectors and we have worked Oft What We felt
will be ah equitable rearrangement of densities within the 1"0 district reali2»
ing that the R-0 is touch more intense in terms of density than either the t..4
or the R-3 districts. Consequently, we are tow recta ►ending that tinder section
2, subsection 2 that the schedule be Modified so that the first 12 units will
require 6000 plus 1500 for each additional unit over 4 and that from 12 or more
Units the 18,000 square feet plus 550 for each additional unit over 12 to a
Maximum of /2 units per acre. Now that's the change we are recommending. One
to 12 instead of one to 15; and 12 or more would be 18,000 pits 550 and that
changes from 22,500 plus 600, it changes to 18,000 plus 550 which is still a
lower intensity than presently allowed by approaches the types of density that
you expect to find in the R-C district on larger tracts of land up to 72 units
an acre which is the existing cap on R-C density. Do 1 make myself clear?
Mr. Plummer: This is in concurrence with the department and all of the objectors?
In other words, is everybody now satisfied that we're going to accomplish what
We're trying to accomplish?
Mr. Acton: The objectors ,are in the audience.
Mr. Jack Rice: Well, that's the best deal we could make. We were trying to
come to some equitable solution and that's where we're left.
Mr. Acton: This still gives us the type of protection that we need in the lower
lot sizes so we don't proliferate...
Mayor Ferre: ...here, but you know we've been at this since 9:00 O'Clock sharp
and we've been running behind and after that we've got Ricky Thomas who has been
waiting all morning. So Joyce, why don't you go ahead, set up and after that
I'm going to take Thomas and then we're going to get into the afternoon agenda,
hopefully.
Mr. Plummer: ..thirteen subject to the negotiations worked out and agreeable
to the Planning Department, I will move Item #13 as delineated by the City Attorney
in the resolution for approval on second reading.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPRE-
!i1SIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE
{I, SECTION 1 AND 2 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, R-C DISTRICT,
AS IT PERTAINS TO DENSITY, LOT AREA AND WIDTH REQUIRE-
MENTS FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS, APARTMENT HOTELS, AND
RESIDENTIAL UNITS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE
SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT INSOFAR AS THEY
ARE IN CONFLICT: AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVIS-
ION.
Passed on its first reeding by title at the meeting of June 12, 197!e was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption,
On motion of CemMissioner Plummer, seconded by commissioner Gibson, the
Ordinance was the eepon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATE? ORDINANCE NO. 8429.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the puiic zeCOrd and
annooed that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public,
JUL 31 1975
lat MIS4440AWARANCE EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF HELP COUNCIL
mt, Pieky'Thomas: Mr. Mayor: and distinguished commission, I am here in behalf
of Mr. bill Turner and also myself. Mr. Turner apologizes, he couldn't be here
he is afi Chicago attending the Council of Great City Schools. He sent a letter
to you, Mr. Mayor. and also a copy to the other commissioners. We've been here
about three or four tithes about the saute item. We had a firm eommittment from
you about the Edison Little l eer project for the $15,313.00. You voted unanimous-
ly on dune 5th and told the City Manager to find the money but we find out that
they gay we need a formal resolution from you it order to get this and that's
what I'm here today to get a formal resolution because we need to finish our pro-
gram and we're trying to keep a hot summer cool by keeping the kids minds active
and doing constructive things. We don't want a Detroit, a Chicago, what have
you and we're doing a fine job but We nee.i these funds desperately.
Mayor ?erre: Alright. Now Paul, this commission has gone on record as I recall
in favor of this project. Now where do we stand and why haven't we been able to
progress on it
Mr. Andrews: Because we just don't have the money, Mr. Mayor. There is absolutely
no money there that we can allocate from those funds to make them available.
Mayor Ferret Now let the ask you a question, Mr. Andrews. We had a project here
that a gentleman by the name of Emilio tlopez came up and brought before us. Do
you remember? And we voted $40,000 for that project.
Mr. Andrews: I think 1 do. It may he to many projects for me to...
Mrs. Gordon: It was Day Care rennovations and it was to be in the Wynwood area,
two of them. emember7
Mayor Ferre: Now as I understand, even tnough I warned them four times and
here before this commission twice, those moneys have not been used. Now can we
transfer CEc J L: moneys?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, that would be for the commission's decision.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I'll take the burden upon myself that if those moneys
have not been used that we transfer those funds and use them in this project
in Little River.
Mr Plummer: Alright, Mr. Mayor, I concur but I also want to put the reservat-
ion in there that the reason we're tight, and we will be tight, of course, after
budget. But if this proposal is revived by the Day Care Center that we reserve
the right at budget time to establish the priorities of where that can be included.
So what we're really talking about is taking from that fund for a period of August,
September, two months, 60 days.
Mrs. Gor:on. Temporary.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: As I remember Paul, Ricky, this is $15,000?
Mr. Thomas: $15,333.00.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-710
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ALLOCATE
TaZ SUM OF $15,330 TO THE EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF HELP
COM.MUNITY COUNCIL - PROJECT YOUTH.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES; Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Menolo Rebos°
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L+ 'iwr, her, Jr,
Mayor Maurine A. Ferro NOES; None,
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Mayor Pere: Mew Mr. Andrews or Mr. Lloyd is there any legal impediment that
now that we vote oe this that he'll Come back two months from now aid you say
yes, you voted for it but you forgot that you had to do thi57 There is nothing
now holding this program back?
Mr, 1 ibydt trio, sit The only impediment is hopefully that We den get, I've got
to check whether this is the same fund that we're using and just a different
allocation or a different fund. if it is the Same fund you Can do it by meditate
Len end We'll try and beet it ready tonight on the City Attorney Reports.
Mayor Pierre: Now what is done is dome.
Mrs. Cordon: Ok, And Mr. Plufnmer's statements are gig to hold true that that
ill a temporary transfer and it'll be replaced because the bay 'Cate Centers in
Synwood are needed but they just haven't done anything abbot it as the Mayor has
said.
Mr. Andrews: AS l understand it, what you're saying is when We review the
Federal Revenue Sharing Funds for the new budget that We consider it theft.
Mrs. Gordon: night.
JUL 31 1975
j?EMDUSTPAT I QN
jj;?ERSQ NAL A PEARANCE NEW VOTING MACHINES AND PROCEDURES TO
17� IIS, JOYCE iJIEFI�ENDERFER REPLACE EXISTING
ISTIt EQUIPMENT
Mayor ?erre: Alright, Mrs, Dieffenderfer.
Mr. Southern: Mr. Mayor, before Mrs. Dieffenderfer begins 1'd like to tell the
commission that some months ago 1 watched a demonstration of this procesE and
in my opinion it is a much better process than the one that we use now with vot-
ing machines
Mayor F'F?eee! f leight, thank yoe, s. ,
vet r.erey to make your pry. ,1s1"
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: Mr. Mayor, members cf the commission, we are pleased to be
before you today to show you the voting equipment which we anticipate will be
in full use in Dade County by September 1976 and I have with me today to answer
any technical questions, Mr. Harold Sarkisian who is vice president of Major
Data Corporation, one of the "Godfathers" of the voting machine you see before
you.
Mayor Ferre: I wish you wouldn't use that word.
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: Well, it is a word that has come through to me rather
frequently lately. You know I've been tempted to apply it. Mr. David Leahy
who is our Assistant Supervisor for Election Services, Mr. Terry Roil anci
Mr. George Nouveau who are heading our ;polling place procurement which
a nifty job for anyone so they have all come to assist us in the setting up
of pre:.nc What I would like to do very quickly is give you some per;pect
eu how we came to be approaching this equipment, what we see in it a.:id
then actually go into the demonstration. In 1972 after what you may remember
to be some difficulties in the election, the Board of County Commissione.-s by
resolution that a committee be formed to look for improvements in the voting
system and at that time declared their 2ntent co convert from the voting
machines. Thxoughout 1973 and 74 this committee which was comprised of citizens
appointed by the Democratic Executive Committee, the Repub.ican Executive com-
mittee, the League of Women Voters and some county staff actually traveled
around the country and looked at electives being run under all available voting
equipment. We brought in all manufacturers, we spent two years in intensive
studyin the fie.d. In January of this year we submitted to all manufacturers
an R. F,1', A committee of these citizens reviewed all proposals and in March of
75 reeommeedee to the Board of County Commissioners Chat we negotiate fo- the
purchase of t1is equipment, Tne contract was approved in may. The Contract
calls for the purchase of 60 of these unets, It is a single unit per precinct
device with an option to be exercised in November to purchase an additio,►al 470,
The plan is a phased implementation which will allow us to do extensive ,education
within an Increasing area of responsibility, We would hope this fall -o use the
equipment in one of the municipalities havi;g an election in November. ro con-
vert approximately half the precincts for the :'larch Presidential Preference Prim-
ary so that by September of 76 we will be fully converted from voting me;hi.nes to
this new system. Now I think the most interesting thing about the Citieen Coinn4ttee
3U1..1C+7 5
•
that made the recommendation was that in every instahte that 1 know Of ih their
dif tiussiof,s their primary concern was the voter, "Would this be a better system
for the voter, would it be an easier system for the voter to use7". The systef
is extremely simple. We are returning to a paper vallot but a paper ballot which
is riot a bed sheet ballot, WA a eelumn ballot whieh we'll put ih front of yrtl
in a few fninutee. It is simply a paper ballot (harked with a pencil which is by
far the simplest implement that aty voter can use since almost every citizen has
at sometime had a l er it in his hand; he is very comfortable with it; and it is
cOUnted electronically. It is counted at the precinct dust as our voting machines
ate 60 that we are maintaining the integrity of the precinct count, the kinds of
guarantees against fraud which exist oh a precinct board. The ballot has remark. -
able flexibility. The type size tan vary; if you have a short ballot, you want
very large printing - your formatting in other words is much more open than it
is. We're not constrained by a voting machine and a particular sire square so
that ih fact you can determine exactly what you want your ballot to leek like in
terns of size print, in terms of spacing light area. And this to us aeetns to be
a tret`hendous advantage to the voter. Now the ballots we have for you today are
hot ballots We set up and I say this because I am not really very fond of the
configuration of this ballot hut the manufacturers simply took our 1974 ballot
and created ballots for us so that we would have some opportunity to show it to
you. This is exactly how the equipment will be sent to the precinct. And let
us be setting this up while I finish it and you can see the sisttplicitty. One of
the interesting things about this system is of courae that we will have more
voting booths, more areas in which a voter may cast his ballot than we presently
have on the voting machines. We are required by state law to provide one voting
Machine for every 350 registered voters. We will be supplying a voting booth
for every 100 registered voters in these elections which means in fact that there
Will be three times as many places for a voter to vote. What is occuring in fact
is that the Precinct Board is setting up your voting booth and your tabulating
equipment. Now tin voter wia_1 actually vote on a paper ballot. Mr. Leahy, do
we have some bai.lots we can now pass out to the commission? Now from an admin-
istrative point of view one of the factors that makes this equipment desirable
is that we believe it will simplify precinct procedures for our election boards.
Our election boards are basically citizens who don't work and who volunteer their
time at the polls. On a long election they may spend 16 or 18 hours which is a
lone day for any of us. It is our best estimate that tie polls will be Fet up
within about half an hour and that e Jery polling place in this county shculd
close within an hour of the time the polls close with totals immediately avail-
able either by transporting them directly to wherever they're being collected
or by telephoning in and producing the unofficials as we do now. The egtipment,
as you can see, is extremely portable. It is easy to deliver. It is sirple to
repair. Now we have tremendous faith in the manufacturer of this equipment but
the county has undertaken one further step and that is that we have contracted
with an independent testing laboratory for new product testing on the equipment
and no piece of equipment will be delivered to us which has not gone thrcugh an
acceptance test by an independent engineer who will test this equipment for
accuracy, fcr logic, for completeness, if you will. Perhaps Mr. Leahy could run
through for you basically the precinct procedure and we would very much like to
have some of you mark a couple of ball.ots,and cast them simply so you will see
how the equipment functions.
Mx. Davi a ..eaihy: Ok, the first thing the poll workers would do when the come
ini^ :;et it up as we have, They would turn a kep to get their zero printouts.
This will show that there are no votes on the device first thing in the morning.
Once this tape finishes coming out which will show that there are zero tctals
for all the positions voting can begin. Prior to this you cannot submit a ballot
into the device. So this would happen right at seven O'clock. when a voter
comes in he will first come across the demonstration table. There he will be
shown the ballot; he will be shown how to mark his ballot and be shown a ballot
envelope and how to insert the ballot once voted into the envelope. From there
he will go to the registration table which is basically the same set up es is
done now in our lolling places except that at this talbe he will now receive his
ballot envelopes. From the registration table he will then go on to the ballot
table. He will sign for each of his ballots," There is an additional steb which
you do not have en your ballots at this time. It's a number one stub. There is
a place for his signature for each of the ballots he will receive. Once he has
signed for all the ballots the poll worker will initial the first Stub and the
second. The reason this is done is to prevent chain balloting, it's provided
for in state law with the double stub system. Once the poll worker hai..nitialed
both stubs the stubs will be torn as they are now. The voter will receive the
ballot with the number two stub attached. He will have his ballot enve.'opes with
him and he will go into a voting booth Fimilar to the one I have in back of me,
We have ordered, this is the armbooster type voting booth, Qurs will be a little
bit smaller, the one we've ordered and we're not going to go for the bed sheet white,.--
JUL 3. 1 75
The voter will step in here, stark his ballot, insert the ballots in the envelope
and is ready to insert his ballot into the device and have it tabulated. if you
+mould like to dome down and.. No, we will have one voting booth for every 100
voters as provided by state law but thete will be only one device in each precinct
sb your device will be near the exit and this is the last step the Voter does is
walk over to the voting device, insert his ballot, it'e tabulated and he walks out.
(inaudible question) Yes, that one to remove the stub as we'll de now. There is
one ballot envelope for each ballot. The Machine will not aooept more than one
ballot at a time.
Mrs. Dieffenderfer One of the advantages the the eitieehe saw in this particular
system is that it provides for continuous Voting. There Will obviously be a locked
ballot box in the absence of electricity to keep the machine. Those totals which
have already been put on the machine will be retained in the memory. Votes could
be east its a sealed ballot box. No voter need ever leave because all the machines
are broken which is something we hear. This would be the end of the day procedure.
At 7 O'Clbck the key Will be turned in the machine and all totals accumulated dur-
ing the day will be printed out. ONce the total is printed out it is impossible
to insert another ballot in. It is simply a protection against stuffing the ballot
box as they say. One of the things, of course, is that your absentee ballots and
your ballots at the precinct are identical. You will be counting absentee ballots
not by the hand count but again by the same machine. We simply Will use the same
machine* feed the ballots into the machine and have the results I think a great
deal faster than we've had it.
Mayor Terre: May we ask you some questions?
Mrs. biffenderfer: You certainly may.
Mayor Fevre: Hew much is this going to cost?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: The first 60 will run somewhere about $4300 per unit. The
additional 470 mill be less so the total cost of this equipment should be roughly
$2,200.000 exclusive of thevoting booths and some of the auxiliary equipment.
Mayer Ferre: 'lade County pays for that, right
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Now of the $2,200,000 how are we .going to pay for that? Does that
come from tax moneys or is that bond money or are we...?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: It will not be bond money, it will be a combination of
General Revenue and federal money that will be coming in allocated to this.
Mayor 1 rre: That's my question, are we getting a federal grant for this?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: We're getting some federal money but his is not something
I would speak on at length because I don't know. This was a decision by the
County Manager to allocate certain funds coming to this purpose.
Mayor Ferre: We don't know how much?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: I don't know but I'm sure that at the budget hearings it
will come up.
Mayor Ferret How about the operational expenses of this thing? How much will
it cost to operate?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: It's going to cost ust about the same as your present voting
machine election:. We averaged the 1974 elections and they averaged at $414,000
over three elections. We don't see any appreciable difference in cost.
Mayor Ferre: Has the County Commission voted for this?
Mrs. Dieffenderfer; Yes, sir, they voted three times. They voted on the recom-
mendation, they voted to approve the contract and they voted once earlier on...
Mayor Ferre: So in effect what you're here is just to inform us,
Mrs, Pieffenderfer; It's just a performance because we are going to rec,uest
eventually one of the municipalities to allow us to use this equipment, However,
it WAS our feeling that no matter which municipality uses it since all voters
will be going to the polls on the sane day and there is a great deal of interest
in this, it will be appearing and certainly you needed it,
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Maybe rte t think
City Of Hialeah fot- a
Ate. bieffenderfet I
air.
it is a nib& Mathine but I would like to volunteer the
test period.
Well the City of Hialeah has already volunteered itself,
MAW ?erre: Well, we are very happy to hear that and we want tb concur.
Mrs, bieffenderfert We have not accepted their invitation but we haVe it at
this point by resolution. Our original intent, of courte. WaS to get the eqUip=
merit it hbuae to show it to all of you and then to make settle it MUM deterMin.,
&tient' as tb Where We oatld most effectively use it ih NoveMber so that it WOUld
be A reasonable use of the equipmeht. We think it has adVantagee tb the MUhieii.
pality who uses it simply beeaute there Will be at allocation of staff tie t6
this bh the first election ih terms of the trainirq of poll workers and a certain
amount that the county will obviously go forward with for the first use of the
equipment which will not be available later.
Mayer Verret I would say that just through observatioh it looks like a scientif
Jo way of doing these thitgs. 1 really don't know what the impact is going to
be. As X say all the time the proof of the pie is in the eating and if it works
it works. X can see a lot of problems with it becatise 1 think you'll have a lot
of people confused. They won't know which side to put it in, They'll have the
problem of whether to put it in the envelope and you'll have all kinds Of people
and until people /et used to it I think you'll have a lot Of problems with it
but that's the price of progress.
Mrs. Dieffenderfer: Well, the fact is we still have problems with voting machines
and with people who don't know how to use them and don't vote. So we have, as we
move into a new system wherever we use it as we 'o in in March and then next Novem-
ber when hopefully it will be throughout the county it appears to us that our respon-
sibility is to mount an educational drive which we have never done adequately on the
voting machines. I think there is no question it will be slower to begin with, people
will be learning - any new process. We hope it will be an improvement and we certain-
ly will be spending our time to do everything possible to get all people in this com-
munity anC give them a crack at it befor2 thc-,, actually walk into the polling place
which I think is critically important in implementation.
Mr. Ernie Fanatto: Mr. Mayor, Mrs. Dieffenderfer, I'd like to ask approximately
how long does it take to vote?
Mayor Ferre: The question is does it take any longer to vote with this than with
the other.
Mr. Leahy: It won't take much longer at all. For one thing, by state law we are
required to have one voting machine for every 350 voters. With the paper ballot
we have to provide voting booths. We have to provide one voting booth for every
hundred voters so more people will be able to vote at one time with this system
than with the present voting machines.
Mr. Fana'...tn: Wait a minute, you folks have tested this machine out. Have you
tested approximately how long each to take a person to vote? That's what I want
to know.
Mx. Leahy: Yes, sir, we have.
Mr. Fanatto: How long?
Mr. Leahy: It depends on the size of the ballot and the complexity..
Mr. Fanacto; Average l Let's talk about the average.
Mx, Leahy: About three or four minutes but the problem is that we have tested it
with...
Mayor Fcrre; Ernie, look...., I'm going to let you speak but listen,,,, Yes,
j.f you'll let mew' Just listen to me for a second. Now this is a publix forum,
I'm going to recognize You but I want you to keep in mind so you don't talk for
half an hour that this is a City of Miami Commission Meeting, we've go., a long
agenda and we're not going to decide anything on this, She's at here on a courtesy
Matter, We can't Wte for or against it,
Mr, Fanatto; MT, Mayor, 1 think that the people of the City of MieMi 00414 be
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on record and be enlightened what this is ,, how long it is going to take and
What is going on.
War Parfet Co oh Ernie, but just keep ih mind that we're...
Mr, panattOt How tong does it take per person/ You time pie
Mrs, bieffenderfert (1NAUD1hik)
INAtf61ALE CoNVEAB►TtbN
Mayer ?etre: ..6 is there any further discussion On this item/ tf riot, we
want to thank you, Mrs, bieffenderfer and your associates for raking this pres0
efttatioh and good luck.
JUL 311975
18. DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER SITE - PURCHASE FEINBERG PROPERTY
DISCUSSION OF ARCHITECTURAL PROPOSALS FTC,
Mayor ?erre: The next item before us, ladies and gentlemen, is Item #16 and I
an going to announce at this tine that I will abstain from voting on Item 16.
t would like tpe priviledge later on of explaining some of the background and
history of this should I be asked. The reason, however, why I am abstaining
is because my family owns property_in the immediate area and therefore, under
the law I should liot and cannot vote. Now, I want to explain very carefully
since 1 was very much involved in this whole process even though I disagree
strongly with some of the implications and inferences in some of the media that
these were secret negotiations. To me secret means one on one and since, if
you want to make a strict definition of the word I certainly did not negotiate
this with a television camera or with newspaper reporters in front but I cer-
tainly at no time met with anybody or discussed this with anybody alone. This
was a matter of con non knowledge on the part of many in the community. Now the
area where I feel apologetic is with my fellow commissioners and i really have
to make a statement on this, an explanation why it was necessary for me not to
keep my fellow commissioners fully inforrc at the time that these discuss rnr
were going on. In the first place the owner of the property, Mr. Feinberg, who
is here with us today did not want at any time to reveal the price that he was
willing to sell his property for and asked me not to reveal it until the process
had gone far enough where even though there could be no guarantee of success at
least there would be a concensus that it had a reasonable chance of being accepted
to the city and to the community. Secondly, Mr. Feinberg at that time in the
initiation of these conversations had a franchise from Holiday Inn. If Mr. Fein-
berg, and this has become public knowledge, if the franchise would have been
immediately withdrawn as I understand it. Now, as it happens the franchise was
dropped anyway I think in the end of March or the beginning of April. But before
that time Mr. Feinberg did not want to jeopardize what is, of course, a very
valuable thing which was a Holiday Inn Franchise. Thirdly, I personally was not
sure whether this was the best location and as a matter of fact, and I will sub
mit for the record proof that up until June I was actually for Watson Island for
the location of the convention hall and so stated at a variety of meetings around
this comunity where it seemed to me that Watson Island was the most appropriate
place for a convention hall. It happens that a study was made which finally con-
vinced me that that would not be the location and I only changed my final opinion
on this at the very end and by that I mean sometime ih the end of June or early
July that this was the location. I might point out that during this whole process
there was discussion at the Downtown Development Authority, with the Chamber of
Commerce and with a variety of community leaders as to what would be the best
location. My interest has been, is today and will always be that which is best
for the City of Miami. And in that light I endeavored to proceed, and I do apolo-
gize to my fellow commissioners and hope that they understand that there are some-
times matters that come up that it is necessary for the mayor of the city to pro-
ceed and appzoach the problem with caution. Thi:; is really what 1 was trying to
do. I certainly had no intentions at any time of dealing secret. Oh, I forgot'
to mention, the Manager had not decided what the position of the administrat-
ion was going to be on this and I certainly did not want to precipitate anything
until the Manager had taken a firm stand and the administration had really scientif-
ically analyzed the location, So with that as a preamble l will then abstain from
voting on Item #16 and will pass the gavel on to the Vice -Mayor,
Plummer: All right. Mr. Mayor, you'll stay around in ease any guastions are
to be asked?
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Rev. Gibson: Mrs "Vie Mayor, let the ask a question, Mr. Lloyd, I don't under'
wta#itl what is go he to happe?i hoe. Do you man to tell me that the Mayor doesn't
Y1ave & right to vote in thie flatter?
Mr. Plutftert No, sit, because he it ari adjacent property owner within 375 feet.
Mayor t'erret Let me explain exaetly why, It isn't the distance. What is in
fact important here is whether or het according to etate law I stand to benefit
financially from a vote that I would oast, That is the law that I ate guided by.
Mow t personally do not think that the 'value of that property is going to be mere
at legal 10 or 20 years from now with or without that cohventioh Center. Why'
Deoaiee that piece of property in my opinion is of sufficient value and of su
fieiently good location that the value is already there, My family has held that
property for 15 years. So it isn't a speculative piece that we bought just to
eit Oh and sell when the price got high. And what I'm telling you is the Du Pont
Plata is primary property and in my opinion it is going to be valuable and high,
very high regardless.
Rev. Gibson: Mr, Mayor, I'm a little disturbed. I feel that the Mayor in good
conscience; you see what I'm saying is what I'tn not saying.
Mr. Plummer: I think we all understand.
Rev. Gibson: Right. Now I believe if you did this in good conscience, and I'm
sure you did and of course you're Maurice Ferre, I'm 'Theodore Gibson. 1 don't
mind, it wouldn't made any difference to me. 1 believe that if we the commission
believe that this in the best interest for the City of Miami...
Mayor Ferre: I know what you're saying, rather. Let me reassure you and tell
you that my position on t:ii_s has nothing to do with any editorials that anybody
might or might not write. Ok? And let me further tell you that 1 think there
is a big difference between being involved in the process and casting a vote in
the end. !lbw, I'm the Mayor and I think that because I am the Mayor I must be
involved in what I think is an important decision for this commission, for the
cat`, And I have been involved in it, I'm not leaving the room, I'm going to
stay here ene I will answer any ereetecee eeee_jibe anything that has `':
What I think the distinction is, the distinction is th:.s: That last time erueee
we were defining the general area and the general deal and the specifics of it
as to be voted on today. I think there is a fine legal distinction even though
it is a very fine line between having voted last time and voting this time. Vot-
ing this time is the final vote on this matter and I think that even though I
personally do not feel that I, my property or my family's property is in any way
further enhanced more than what it is already I therefore but nevertheless feel
that as a matter of discretion I should not cast a vote in the final deliberations
of this commission.
Rev. Gibson: All right, let me pursue my thinking. Ok? Whether this is the final
or whether this is the beginning I have enough sense to know that if you go with me
in the beginning that 1 would never get to the final unless you helped me go to the
beginning. I have no doubt in my mind, Mr. Mayor, that the value of that property
isn't going to increase nor decrease.
!<.eei r'erre: :' feel the same way, Father, but look, let me tell you why I'm doing
this from a practical point of view. This project has been sitting for 11 years
and it is time for this city to move on it. Now I would not want to vote on some-
thing and find that somebody could go to court. You know we've got a lot of people
that do funny things around this town. This is a funny town. And all of a sudden
we're going to find somebody taking this matter court on the premise that it was
an illegal vote on my part and hold this thing up. And if I abstain from voting
on this particular item there won't be any legal matter that could be questioned
and this city can progress. Now as far as my position, heck, it couldn't be clearer.
I've been involved in this e ieg - you know how I feel. I've said it publically.
I've expressed it here and I've voted for it last time but now this is a very fine
legal line. The legal 2.ine is this is the final vote that will decide whether or
not we purchµee ehes property and I think that I am obligated to avoid a potential
legal problem for the City of Miami,
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Reboso has a question of the Manager.
Mr. Reboso, vaul, since last meeting, July 22nd did you have any opportunity to
get any appraisals of the property,
Mr, Andrews; Yes, we have. We've gotten the appraisal that we said we would
attempt to. get,
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Mr. Re co: What were the results on it, please?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Pabaso, if I may, I'm sure that the Manger, . , bo you have a
presentation, Paul/ And you'll include that i.n there/ Let's go ahead with your
preSefttatibn and then,maybe it will be encompassed.
Mr. Andrewel May t suggest to the ob1 issifh that we do four things (1that I
have an opportunity to explain if the commission makes the decision to purchase
this property what funding would be, how you would organise the funding ads that
We can progress from the purchase to the deveioptneht of the project and also,
please bear with ate. I've included the funding fo the "Amer Key Auditorium if, if
the City Cottttissiori should dhbose to go ahead with that
Mr. PluMMer: Today?
Mr. Andrews: '.Today. I've got a chart to show how that could all put together,
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, areh't we...
Mte, Gordon: That's ok, ,7.Iy., let hint present the figurrs. I'd like to see them.
Mr. Andrews: It's only for the purpose of telling the whole story. It is only an
if and please, just to you have the information. I'M not asking you to act on it
or anything but in order to put this together based on the available funds you'd
know what is available.
Mrs. Gordon: Certainly, we have to know exactly where we can turn for funds and
how much they are.
Mr. Andrews: Right, exactly. The second thing that we will do is I'll ask Mr.
Crouch to explain the appraisals and the cost per square foot and the information
attendant to the appraisals and then i would lice Mr. Dan Paul and the City Attorney
to explain the contract for the purchase and its specific arrangement and then lastly
I want to talk about the if we go ahead, if we're that far about the existing agree-
ment with the Grafton firm and its complications and implications because we have
to make a decision, whether we're going to (Ls ahead with those sets of pi4ns, if
the commission is interested in moving ahead or start on an entirely gpw Let of
plans. We have attempted through this chart to show a progression of development
of the convention center, also the Dinner Key Exhibition Hall if the commission
should decide to go ahead with that project to demonstrate how the funding would
take place. You'll notice that we divided it up into the years and the months.
The land acquisition we assume will be $4,000,000 and would take place in the
next two months, concluding some time in September. With that step in place if
the commission acts upon it we would then be prepared to begin moving ahead with
the design phase, receive bids and enter into construction. The red figures above
those bars indicate the dollars that are needed at various times to carry the proj-
ect forward. also underneath the construction of the convention center bar you will
notice there is an equipping. That is to equip the building. It's estimated that
we will need between a million and a million and a half dollars to equip such a
building when we're finished. So I included that increment too so the commission
would have the benefit of understanding that we'd have to take that step. The
Cinner ::ei £xhibition Hall if the commission should move ahead would be based upon
a fast track construction would cost approximately 21 million dollars. The red
figures at the bottom in line are the total dollar requirement for that period of
time concluding with $17,000,000 expended for all of that work and puraha:,e. Under-
neath in green is the actual dollars we have in hand at this time, 13.9 million.
That's made up of 4.4 from Capitol Improvement Funds, unallocated 4.2 from the
Covention Center G.O.D. Bonds that are left and 5.3 million from the Virginia Key
Land Payment. Now, when you begin to measure other incomes that the city will
receive for instance next July of 1976 we can program 1,6 million from Florida
Power and Light Company Utility Franchise and a half a million dollar Dads: County
Contribution because I have been informed administratively that if we can arrange
the county's contribution on half a million dollar increments over a three year
period that they could live with that and program that so we've done that here,
so then et chi; point in time that would add 2.1 million dollars and you notice
added there to the point so that that money could be counted on for construction
at that point in time. That occurs Once again in 1977 wherein Dade County would
make a normal payment at that time. We could borrow funds against a future Pay-
ment a year later from the county from Capito1 Improvement Funds so` the f.Inds
would all fall due when they're needed. Now I think this is important for the
Commission to have this so if you want to plan to go ahead with the acquisition
of this property you can see quite readily that 44 we progress through the design
and development and equipping of the building if the funds are there and the funds
are also there if the commission should decide to 90 ahead with the Pinner Kty
Auditorium, Tf you don't then those moneys",
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Mrs. i ord sip: 1 have a question of information. Iice reeeii when the deal
Was made with regards tea the .3 Minim also you wets suppeeed to receive some
land contribution frbn the Minty. Where are you taking that into eenei:detat oti/
Mr. Andrew: Thhat was taken into 'Coneiderat ort in the zillion and a half dollars
in that the arrangement was that the eity would have a reaervatibn of 180,060
Square feat in the 00Vethtt►ent Cehter. if the GoVernMent Center Web trot to be used
and this is specified in the commission's tesolutibrt, that the eeunt► would partite
eipate in the atquiai titn of the site it downtown Miami or within walking distance
of the shops and hbteis. The three increments of a half a milli.en doliara are
phased in to give the county time to Make these payatehts.
Mrs. Gordon: ...they will contribute 111 million dollars towards this four million
for land acquisition.
Mr. Andrews: Well eventually they would.
Mrs. cordon: eventually, but it's a promissory arrangement but still theyi.e going
to come in.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, that's right. This is based on conversation that I've had with
Mr. John McCue explaining how we were going about this and it was his request that
if the Commission should go ahead with this project that this be planned in such a
way that they could make payments over a three year period in half a million dollar
increments. Now the 11.1 million dollars comes about in this process: The property
in the government center is valued from between $6 a square foot, quite a bit of it,
to an average of $12 a square foot at the high level with a few parcels where they
paid $20 a square foot. We arrived by telephone at an arrangement, and this is
based on Mr. McCue's knowledge - he's been intimately involved throughout the whole
process of land acquisition in the Government Center - that the average is $8.00 a
square foot. hatch you multiply $8.00 a square foot times 180,000 square feet it
turned out to be one million, four hundred and some thousand, we rounded that out
to a million and a half.
Mrs. Gordon: How many square feet are we getting in this parcel, Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews: Approximately 220,00 square feet in both parcels. The south parcei
has 179,000 square feet.
Mrs. Gordon: Approximately the same amount that we would have had in the govern-
ment center.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: Therefore, we'll have an additional approximate 40,000 square feet on
the other side of the expressway.
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Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Fine, because I'm leading up to something, a good exhibition hall
site.
Mr. glummer: Mx. Andrews, do you have anything else or do you wish to move on to
Mr. Crouch?
Mr. Andrews: No, we will move on to Mr. Crouch's explanation of the appraisals
that we've received.
Mr. A. A, Crouch: At the City Commission's request we contacted two M.A.I.
appraisers and gave appraisal assignments to them. They were Leonard A. Bisz
and Slack, Slack and Roe of Miami. Both qualified and we've used them a number
of times. The total appraised value arrived by the two separate and independent
appraisals that were made; the Slack appraisal was $7,850,000, The Bisz appraisal
was $6,400,000. I have the breakdown of the two parcels if you're interested in
them from th' two appraisals but the total for what we were dealing with in this
case for information the Slack put approximately 30-33 dollars per square foot
value on the property. The Bisz appraiser put 25-27.50 dollars per square foot
on the property and at the purchase price of $4,000,000 if you wanted to do the
arithmetic to see what we are paying per square foot it would come out to be
approximately $18 per square foot.
Mrs, Gordon; Oo you have complete appraisals with comparables and everything in
it? I recall asking you to obtain appraisals and I assured you appraisers weren't
so busy these days you'd probably be able to get them and you did,
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Mr. Crnuoh: They responded quite readily.
Mr. PluMmert Whieit appraisal was which? Which one was Slack, what figure'
Mr. Crouch: Slack was $7, 350 f 000,
Mt. PluMmet: Alright, Mrs Andrews, who is next?
Mt. Andrews: t wanted to make some preliminary eomttents with reference to the
next item which I would like to have Mrs Paul and the City Attorney advise the
COMbitaion and also me so that 1 know that this one criteria is absolutely satin.
fled. And that is it we enter into a purchase contract that at the titre that We
are prepared to close upon this property that the City of Miami receive that prop-
erty with absolutely tie entumoerantes. By encuthberandes I mean that settle arrange-
ment be tttade whereby 'there is a transition in the operation of the hotel. The
city is not at this time desirous to ask people to leave those living aocomodat.
iena unless the coMMission should decide to remove the building almost immediately
but it is my judgement that you're not going to do that and 1 would want to make
dire that arrangements are made that everyone of the lease agreettients , every one
of the special arrangements that are made that are contracts of any kind that
have been entered into are brought to a conclusion and absolutely finder the eon-
trol of the owner of the property prior to its transfer at the closing so that
the city as I indicate receives this Without any encumberanees.
Mr. ban Paul: Mr. Mayor, I think it would probably be better to let your own
City Attorney go through the contract with you and tell you what is in it.
I'm here to answer any questions and to respond to specifically what the City
Manager has just said. The contract provides that we will terminate all of the
existing leasa arrangements on the property prior to closing and if anybody
hasn't moved out by that time that we'll establish an escrow fund for any claims
that we have. But T think as Mr. Andrews said it's the city's intent to go in
and make new arrangements with these people and that they probably will still
remain in posession as of the date of closing pursuant to the city's own arrange-
ment but not pursuant to our's. Our's will be canceled.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, that would be satisflofo, ) . Os T say, it's not the c
intention at tnis moment in time because of the way we'll have to go about desosn-
ing and making decisions on that site to just literally move those people out bodily
because we're purchasing the property.So once again I'd like to clarify so there
is no misunderstanding, so that we don't get misquoted and mis-stated that it's
not the city's intention,from my point of view this is up to the City Commission,
to ask people who are residing there to leave that place of residence. What we
are asking is merely a transition of responsibility and ownership and terminat-
ion of leases so that we can write our own leases with our own conditions and
hopefully get that in place even before closing would take place.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Do you concur that we go next to Mr. Lloyd?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Fast arithmetic, and somebody correct my figures, I'm taking the
two appr i:;:rs adding them together, dividing by two; the actual average is
$7,17',000. Is that correct?
Mr. Andrews: Yes.
Mr. Lloyd: Let me briefly explain the agreement which you all have in front of
you now. First, of course, the consideration is $4,000,000. That is the purchase
price of the property of which $200,000 shall be paid immediately to the Southeast
Banks Trust Company simply as an escrow agent. Now this, of course, is the good
faith deposit. Now, of course, in the event of a wrongful refusal or default by
the city :itself then of course, the purchaser could require the escrow agents to
return the deposits to the purchaser and the purchaser would have the right of
specific performance... And the escrow agents are instructed to`invest the deposit
in accordance o'..t:: ' . ,e purchaser's instructions. New unless the deposit is forfeited
by the purch -seer under the terms of agreement the interest will then be paid on to
toe seller. otherwise the interest earned will be paid to the purchaser. Now that
will be $200,000, will be applied, of course, as credit to the ultimate purchase
price of $4,000,000. Now then the property is encumbered by some mortvges, The
Granada property has two mortgages and as I understand it these two mortgages will
be satisfied on or before the closing, That is correct, is it not?
Mr, Paul: If you want them that way, they Can be.
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Mte. C� rrdont what are th aounte of ,.,
these
s6 mortgages?
Mr. Lioydt They're listed on page 2. "there is one, the Robert Clay property
is encumbered by a mortgage in favor of the Connecticut Mutual Life insurance
Company _ unapid principal $122.466.84, 'then the Towers property is encumbered
by a mortgage in favor of the Miami Beath pirst National teak for *26 r 31.2 , 01.
Craned& prropery two mortgagee. one in factor of lsador and Aoge prreidman, the other
one in favor of Abe naut each of Which mortgagee Lae an unpaid principle as of
the date hereof of $84,473. t making the total encumberance $168.047,50 and the
Callao park Property has a mortgage. unpaid principle balance in the amount of
that's with the First pederal Savings and Loan Association.
Then parcel 14 is mortgage amount of $20,000. Theh there is a mortgage also on
that property and the unpaid balance of $5,416.52. Now then one mortgage, 1
believe stud correct me if I'm wrong, Mt, Paul, the one with the First Federal
Savings and Loan Association, that one does have a pre..payttent penalty clause
en it which gees like this: You can only pay 20% of the balance of the mortgage
at a title. So you'd have 5 years in which, and you tan pay this off in 5 years
Without any paytent of penalty,
Mts. Gordon: What is the ititerst on it?
Mr, Lloyd: The interest is 8.75%, eight and three-quarters. The penalty to pay
it off would be approximately $i'7,O0 to pay it off now.
Mrs. Gordon We're not ready to start construction tomorrow, are we'
Mr, Lloyd: NO, and of course, another thing, this could be subject to negotiation
with First Federal as far as that goes in the event they could use the money or...
Mrs. Gordon: Do you want us to discuss these things as We go along or do you want
to go through the whole thing? My personal opinion is that where we're not going
to make immediate use of the specific property like right now on this 471 we've
got to make a design plan, etc. that we might make a partial payment that we don't
have to get a penalty and you know, save every dollar we possibly can. On the
Dallas Park property where you're indicating, Mr. Andrews, you don't have any intent-
ion of displacing the people that means you have no intention of removing the build-
ing.
Mr. Andrews: Oh yes, we do. I would say subject to design and study and approval
of this commission of a plan it is invisioned that this is an ideal location for a
parking garage in there... I said immediately, see. So people don't have to move
within the next month or so.
Mrs. Gordon: Well they wouldn't anyway. Ok, how much is the interest on that mort-
gage?
Mr. Lloyd: That's the Dallas Park? I don't know what the interest is...
Mr. Paul: Eight and three quarters.
Mr. Lloyd: Well that's the First Federal one....
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, it's blanketed under the same mortgage? Oh.
Mr. Lloyd: That's the one - Dallas Park property.
Mr. Plummer: All right, go on to "C".
Mr. Lloyd: Well, I've already said that. The balance will be paid before closing
by a check drawn on a bank doing business in Dade County, Florida. Three, and
within 20 days after the bid of this agreement, of course, complete abstracts
and title will be delivered to the purchaser and they'll be continued up to the
date that was in the agreement and the examination. And he warrants in his agree-
ment here that the examination of said abstract will close good and marketable
title to the seller subject to the following: current taxes, applicable zoning
ordinances, the matter set forth in Exhibit "B" attached hereto. And Exhibit "B"
I believe is certain restrictions. Is that correct, deed restrictions of record?
Mr, Paul; That's correct,
Mr, Lloyd; I wonder if you'd explain those please, Mr, Paul, Tease,
Mr. Paul; Well., I don't have copies of those, Mr. Lloyd, your office has those
copies.
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Mr. Lloyd: d: Maybe t have it here. As to rate tewers property the reetridtiene
recorded restricting the height of the bt;i ldttic t le be constructed ,en a 10 fait
sti~ip in the Tower Pr petty and then thet << ts an easement in favor of lilts
of Miami for the purpose of maintaining :old operating a 'high pressure matt% and
then, of course, the Mortgage ir; favor of Miami Peach first Natiohalal bank which
WO O covered. NOW as to the Grahada property the restrictions they're again
affecting ... iirst I should say the original deeds contained reverter clauses
but they've been released of record, Under out restrietieht affecting a 10 foot
§trip of the property adjacent to the Towers Hotel, This prevent§ the erection
of a building over 14 feet in height on the 10 foot strip. Then there is the
mortgagee as heretofore explained. Arid then there is an easement heretofore drafted
to the City of Miafli te use and ifisintain a walkway over the property adjacent to
the Miami kitten As to the ballet Park property, they're subject tO oohing ordinance
7268 which is filed, of course, and that's just subject to that ordinance, That's
also the toning ordinance, the 'city of Miami. Then there are certain encroachments
as shown on the survey of the property and I haven't seen the survey tb know. Are
the encroachments of any major factor?
Mr. Paul: No. I don't have that survey, 1 don't think they are.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Grimm would be able to answer that but as far as t know they are
not. The encroachments on the Dallas Park property, Mr. Grimm, are they any major
factor? No? Alright.
Mr. Plummer: For the record. Mr. Grimm has indicated "no".
Mr. Lloyd: And then, of course, there is the mortgage as to the parcel 14 two
mortgages as aforesaid and as to the Robert Clay property mortgage in favor of
the Connecticut Mutual Life Insurance Company. That appears to be the title
exceptions.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Vice Mayor and members of the commission, there is one other
area that I wish the commission to have full understanding of. In our further
research in the time that we've had to look into this property the tentative
plat that was filed to close the streets is still in that stage. In other words
it has not been brought to a conclusion and the conveyance of this property we'll
have to eventually take that final step and I want Yr. Crouch to explain that anc
hold the map up so that you have a full understanding of what this is and what it
constitutes.
Mr. Crouch: Closed, but not officially closed right-of-way of S.E. 4th Street
and S.E. 1st Place and I believe it's South First Court that are interior to the
property that we're purchasing. The tentative plat has been submitted to offic-
ially close and vacate this area and it would be, there is approximately 12,000
square feet of right-of-way that's involved in that. It's not a part of the trans-
fer to us. It is in the public hands right now and would mean that the city would
have to pick up the processing of platting and officially closing that right of
way and it would revert to us as the private owner, abutting owner if we owned the
property at that time.
Mrs. Gordon: The right hand putting it in the left pocket.
Mr. Lloyd: In essence that's what it is.
Mr. Andrews: I wanted the city to be aware.
Mr. Plummer: The city would be the owner of both sides of the property.
Mr. Andrews: They are the owners of both sides now. Under our platting procedures
if they had continued to develop the property and continued with the development of
the plat they would have become the owners automatically of the right-of-way because
they own both sides of the street, the property on both sides. So now if in acquir-
ing this property we'll be put in that position we'll have the opportunity to process
that.
Mr. Plummer: Are there any other questions on Item 3?
Mr. Andrews: Vice Mayor Plummer, it makes this difference that later on when we
had acquired this property and we had to come bake end take this step there could
be misunderstanding in that you were not aware that this had to be ac.ompli,shed at
that time and not having those facts could have caused some problem,
M. bloyd; I want to add this with regard to one of the reverter clauses there is
a possibility that in spite of a release it could be enforced as a covenant, However;
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the reVerter clause is against bUilding cottercial warehOUSea and decks along
the Mimi Aiver so in view of the fact that the city is not intending to do that
it dOeSnit Make aty diffetehte.
Mrs, gordoni Commercial warehouses and docks. YOU Mean we can't put any kind
of, would that prohibit us from putting any kited of marina usage if we wanted tos?
Mr. Lloyd: Commercial, and I don't ... In the first place there hat been a re.,
lease. All I'm saying is there ie a possibility, that's all. t't not really
nCerned bout it but I do waht to Mention these things s8 we understand
Mrs. Gordon: /' m askihg it now so that later bh I woh't get this as an answer
tO MAO perhaps seggestibh that we proceed in a certain vein. Would that pro=
coa...
hibit ari exhibition hall where there would perhaps storage of tote commercial
merchandise of any kihd on a temporary basis?
Mr. Lloyd: No. 1 invition a commercial warehouse: 1 would not think so because
1 would iriViSiOh a commercial warehouse as ate where you accept things as a bailee
for hire and keep them there for a period of tite.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, I just wanted that ih the record. Thank you.
Mr. Lloyd: 1 just want to make one more remark with Item 1. obviously, and this
is so obvious maybe it doesn't even need mentioning but of course the seller does
agree to give a good and marketable title to the purchaser and if they can't, of
course, they must the deal is off otherwise.
Mr. Plummer: Number four.
Mr. Lloyd: Now 4 is about the leases to the Dallas Park which we've discussed
previously. That will be the city's option - whether we want to keep the people
there why the city will go ahead and make separate negotiations there for a
specific terms but the building as I understand, Mr. Paul, can be cleared at the
time of closing or very shortly thereafter if the city has the option.
Mr. Paul: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Number 5.
Mr. Lloyd: Now the seller does not make any warranty or representation as to
the conditions of any improvements on the property and the purchaser agrees to
close this transaction with the property in the conditions which will exist
on the closing date which I think we understood at the time you manifested your
intent.
Mrs. Gordon: It doesn't make any difference, we're not going to keep it.
Mr. Lloyd: That's right, it doesn't make any difference. Same no representat-
ion to the personal property which is of no matter.
Mr. Plurner: Number 6.
u. Lloyd: Number 6 simply mentions about the value of the property versus the
selling price. Number 7 provides for the place of the closing which will be at
the offices of Paul and Thomson at 10 O'Clock on the morning of September 15, 1975
unless the purchaser desires an earlier closing date at which time it can be accel-
erated. It just tells what the seller will deliver to the purchaser which includes
the usual things, bill of sale governing the personal property, a warranty deed, of
course in recordable form, etc. and a mechanic lien affidavit, I'm sure Mrs. Gordon
don't have to tell you what's on that I'm sure you know.
Mr. Plummer: Item 3.
Mr. Lloyd; Real estate taxes, personal property taxes, fire and extended coverage
insurance plealiems, rental income and all other expenses and revenues will be pro-
rated at the date of the closing. This is also routine realestate procedure. Here
is one, if the 1975 tax figures are not available prorati.ons will be based on the
1974 tax figures and an appropriate adjustment will be made later when the 75 fig-
ures become availalbe. It is again a matter of convenience. Now seller is aware
of no certified liens on the property. However, if there are any or ally turn up
they'll be discharged by the seller and pending liens if any will be assumed by
the purchaser. Mr, 1.loyd; Nine is regarding to the encumberanoes on the Granada
property which is the mortgages that we talked about previously and the seller if
required he'll satisfy those mortgages,
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Mra, Gordon I have a c ueation en Mortgages just as a point of information, Are
there an.., mortgages that are existing on the property that could be discounted if
they're prepaid in advance? bo you know, barmy'
Mt, Paul: 2 think Mr. Feinberg tali have to answer that. 1 don't think there
are any discounts anymore.
Mr. Lloyds Except all mortgages may be prepaid without penalty with the exception
of the riret Federal Mortgage aboutwhich t have already told you.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, well we're looking the other way.
Mr, Lloyd: Right, 1 understands
Mr. Plummer: Number 10.
Mt, Lloyd: Meat of these are 7% mortgages, by the way, and we have the option
here to assume them or discharge them either way,
Mrs. Gordon: Would our Moneys return us a greater amount than 7%?
Mr Andrews: It could be. See, we're talking about the whole involvement of
mortgages and everything and even if it's 8% the administration of that is very
likely that we might earn that much money in the investments that we have cash
in hand rather than...
Mrs. Gordon: Which way... Are we going to make more money one way or the other?
Mr. Andrews: I'm not sure but I'm saying even if it gets close, even if we make
a little less money to gat all involved in the administration of those mortgages
and carrying them out and so forth may not very well be worth it but we'll look
into that and make a decision.
Mr. Paul: You can have it either way, we don't care.
Mr. Lloyd: Number 10; Sellers have to ::epre.sent that the Dallas Park p*-o;perty is
covered by fire and extended insurance coverage until the date of closing. On
date of closing it will be the city's responsibility.
Mr. Plummer: Number 11.
Mr. Lloyd: And the purchaser in (11) warrants and represents it has full and com-
plete authority to enter into this agreement and close the transaction, in accord-
ance with the provisions and we'll deliver certified copies of a resolution and
the purchaser will deliver certified copies of a resolution of the City Commission
authorizing the transaction and plus an opinion from the City Attorney of Miami that
the purchaser has the full right, power and authority under its Charter and through
appropriate actions taken by the City Commission. I will furnish that at the time
of closing the opinion. You will in your discretion either pass or not pass the
resolution today. The resolution has been prepared which you now have before you.
Twelve (12) is simply where notification is to the seller and the purchaser be given.
Mr. r'.ummer: Is there anything else in this agreement you feel that you should
bring before the attention of the commission?
Mr. Lloyd: ONe thing, as I understand it which is no particular problem and routine
under the circumstances - the negotiations, I think the mortgages on Granada are a
day or two past due but I'm sure that the seller will take care of that.
Mr. Paul: Yes, we have an oral agreement in any case to extend that mortgage if
you want it extended; we just haven't signed it pending you decide what you'd like
to do on it.
Mr. Loyd: Right. You see that's why there's no great problem.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you buy title insurance on this, Mr, Lloyd?
Mr, Lloyd; We recommend that we buy title insurance on the full amount of the
property.
Mrs, Gordon:
not?
What's what I'm asking. Was it in here, I didn't notice if it was or
Mr, Lloyd; No, that's up to us, That is in the allocation authorizing the manager
to purchase the proeprrty in the resolution, Let me explain about that, What is in
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there is that in the event Of a dispute between the parties of to whether or
net the title le good and marketable an authorization fr fl the iawyet's title
and *uarantee Punrl that it will be sufficient. What we are proposing is that
We get full title insurehde Oh the whole properties and...
Mrs. Gordon; And you have it in here? I just havef't seem it.
Mr. Lloyd: Well* it Jo just simply it•, the allocation, YOU Will notice that it
says, "Arid authoritinq the tirettor of Finance to allocate '$4, 1b0b0 for the
purchase of said property and the retessary costs and expenses incurred therewith
including but hot limited to abstracting and title ins ranee from the Goiwention
Center bond pund and the Virginia Xey Sale Trust Pund for that purpose. It's in
the title and the body of the resolution which you will pass is that is your dit
cretion.
Mr. Plummer: Any other commission questions? Alright, Mr. Andrews;, do you have
anything further?
Mr. Lloyd: One thing I might add is that Mr. Grimm has conducted a survey of the
property and this was done, of course, to deterthire that the legal description of
the property is accurate for what we're getting. As 1 understand it, Mr. Grittntii
that is so. Is that correct? Your opinion is that as an engineer that from the
legal description and the maps you were given it checks out. Is that correct?
Mr. Grimm: Yes, as long as you qualify it by that and not an actual physical
survey.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes, I understand.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Paul, do you have anything that you wish to add to the agreement?
Mr. Paul: I think your City Attorney has explained it adequately. I have nothing
to add.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir. Mr. Andrews, do you have anything further?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, I have one more item. it's up to the commission whether you
want to take this up after you make your decision on the acquisition of the prop-
erty or beforehand and that is the explanation with reference to the current
status of the agreement with the Grafton Firm to bring the present plans to com-
pletion whether we choose to do that or not and my advice is that perhaps you
should go ahead and act on this first and then I'll brief the commission on that
afterward.
Mrs. Gordon: I think we ought to deal with the purchase and get some claim on the
title.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Vice Mayor, I think we ought to do one thing first. Let's
decide if we're going to buy the land - buy it. Then what we do about design is
another can of worms. I want to make sure everybody understands. The first time
I spoke T was not in opposition, I just could not understand why if our Mayor neg-
otiates in good faith and was honest and honorable and we feel that this is a good
tni::g, why he had to exclude himself but he has explained. And I want everybody
to know that when I vote I vote at no time showing or lacking confidence. I want
to make sure everybody understands that because you know I think if we don't have
confidence up here, man, we're in trouble. And I have implicit confidence in my
man that he got us a good thing and we'd better, you know.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, Father.
Mr. Lloyd: What we are getting is a good and marketable title, that's what we are
getting.
Mrs, Gordon: And insurable,
Mx. Lloyd: No, we're not but we feel it can be insurable and we'll be making
arrangements on it, The agreement calls for good and and marketable title that's
why 1 mention it:.
Mrs, Gordon; YOU feel secure? If you fr.el secure, Mr, Attorney, I feel secure,
mr. bioyd; The ac uai evidence is insurability but I wanted that,., 1 know you're
rea. ;.ng me loud and clear, Mrs, Gordon, I warted that explained,
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Mrs, Gorden: That'S ok, I'M net an attorney, If yOe're saying that it sak i It
ok With Me.
Mt a PluMMer: Is there anyone or the public who wiSheb to discus this iteM?
Throb minutes. You'll set the OlOtk, Is there anyone else that wishes to speak
oft this item'? Six. Ok, We'll delegate three minutes to each of you. Is that
SUrricient/ ANyorie have any ObjeCtiOn? If the six speakers will please cdthe up
aftd give your name to the Manager, please, Ck, if you'll start the clOCk, each
speaker is delegated three MinUtes, We'll statt with Mi, Panhatto,
Mr, trnio Pannattet Honerable Mayor # Members of the atotOittion, Drnie Parmatto is
my name, President of the Taxpayers teague of Miabli an a bade County and the Homestead
Tax txeMption League of Dade County. I'd like to start off by saying 1 cOMMehd
Mayor ?erre for taking the leadership in buying and qetting ready tO build the con-
VentiOn hall downtown Miami, And I also commend the cooperation that the COmmis,
sign are giving. I want to make it very clear why 1 favor a Conventilan hall down-
town - It's a Must, We must have a convention hall cloWntown like Mianti Beach hat
downtown in Miami Beach. We have over several hundred million dollars in taxable
property downtown, large banks, hotels, BurdineIs, Richard's, 1 Cah go on and on,
stores all over Hagler Street. They pay millions and millions of dollars in taxes,
Now, if there is a decline in business which there appears to be now downtown, that
is the yardstick to ask for a reduction in taxes. And let me tell you we don't want
that because the little homeowner in this county and other businesses can't pick up
the slack. I want it very clear this is not only fact but it is law when there is
a decline in business that's a yardstick to ask... And that's what hundreds of
millions of dollars of taxable property owners are going to do downtown if we don't
seed them with a convention hall to bring a lot of tourists. I also want to make
this clear. We have 70,000 people out of work here in Dade County and we have a
lot of people who are on the verge c..E getting laid off and we've got to see that
these people are workinq. If we get tourists, fine. If we don't we're just going
to be , We can't have another New York. I certainly again want to say that
Maurice Ferre without question is one of our most capable and honest Mayor and one
of Dade County's most successful busines:anen. I consider two of our best businessmen
in Dade County Mitchell Wolfson and Mayor Ferre and I think that he has showed the
leadership and he has the honesty and the ability and with the help of the commission
to give us an up to date conventica nall that will bring the merchants millions of
dollars maybe and they won't ask for any decrease in taxes so the little homeowners
won't have to pick up the slack and other businesses won't be affected. I just want
to conclude by saying, Do it, Do it quick, don't drag your feet. It is an overdue
convention hall that should have been built a few years ago. Please vote now and
do it as soon as you can so as to help the economy then the 70,000 people out of
work and let's keep our taxes down. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Earl Barber.
Mr. Earl Barber: Mr. Mayor and commissioners, My name is Earl Barber. I represent
People's Downtown National Bank. We heartily endorse this proposal of this convent-
ion hall downtown as a very needed step for the revitalization of downtown Miami.
There is one more thing with a bow to my good friend, Mr. Kassewitz. We at the
bank led by the chairman feel that perhaps what might be characterized as damning
the fair t- praise has been the fait of Maurice Ferre. We want to add our congrat-
ulations to him and to state that his activities and his leadership have been a
ainlic service second to none in this community in a long time. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, I'm going to have to pleade ignorance on the next speaker.
Is it Fred Friedelle? Excuse me, sir.
Mr. Fred Friedelle: Right. My name is Fred Friedelle, 1 reside here in the City
of Miami. I've been living here for approximately 15 years in the city proper. I
think it is a very good idea having a convention comples. However, I feel 4 acres
in a city that is progressing so rapidly isn't a sufficient amount of land to really
do anything with. In my travels in the confines of the City of Miami I have noticed
a tract of land that is lying dormant right now which comprises almost 60 acres whic.
is close and very accessible to the downtown area and that is the area between 29th
Street and .36th Street northeast, N,E, 2 Avenue and N. Miami Avenue. You have
access to the expressway systems, to the airports, to all the facilities and I
think we could do so much more with 60 or 70 acres of land with a cultural center,
with a convention complex than you can with 4) acres of land, Nov? in mq nature of
business I happen to travel extensively and one of the gentlemen here remarked that
a convention hall can't help the downtown area. Now I have seen due tl the shopping
center facilities that are opening up in all of these major cities thal. you're going
to loose this business, these retail shops, They're losing it, It is going down,
yeu take the City of Taallpe, the predominating department store ma le
r"ie;: :.1-(7:tth"sabQu-- as
a convention hall. 1 think it is a block away, Tbey have more ;r
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Closed all of their facilities, They're just operating two floors downtown
The same thing is happening it the City or Jacksonville, Now t don't know
Whether the pianniiiq group, I just read about this incidentally a week ago and
I really decided to become concerned about it because 1 feel that we treed a
better piece of land, a larger piece of land to do something. You'll bare
adequate parking and you'll have," My God, if you can get the 70 acres of land
that is almost, t would say 65% of it right now is vacant, and the city went after
this and tackled this project," you have t►ew hotels that are opening up on .se-
ayne boulevard. The Jordan Marsh shopping center complex is going to have a 600
roam hotel, you have motels up along Biscayne Boulevard and you have hotels on
Biscayne Boulevard and t really think that the planning eotnission, 1 think, this
should be tabled and I think the planning Commission should go back and review
the entire area again, I think there are more methods and snore ways of trying
to find a piece of land that is there suitable, I just brought up this lane tract
that I happen to drive by on oceasion and I think it is a beautiful piece of land,
I think the City of Miami could really roll with a piece of land like this and
really do something great but on 41 acres, believe Me, Virs. Gordon and the other
cot► issieners, I think you're very very limited and you're paying... To me it
represents and I'm just the average layman, it represents a huge sum of money,
four acres of land. I feel that this land that I'tn talking about could be bought
at a much more reasonable price One more thing I'd like to bring up, we have
Bayfront Park convention complex, Couldn't we possibly do something with that?
Couldn't we maybe tear that down and rebuild it? I think it is more accessible.
It would be away from all this heavy traffic right in the immediate downtown area,
parking and office complexes. Thank you.
Mrs, Gordon: May I have a minute, Mr. Vice Mayor? I just want to respond to the
gentleman that just spoke who I don't know and I don't know whether he knows the
ownership. I believe, I preface everything with I believe; things change over;,
night, belongs to the same company who it giving us a great deal of problems in
trying to acquire their land on the Bay, the F.E.C. Railway, and it may be under
another corporate title but at any rate that large tract of land has some eventual
use if it ever gets freed out of its present ownership, I don't know. However, I
want to speak to this selection of a convention site as being not only good but
excellent. I think it is fantastic in fact, because of the amenities that this
piece of property has that are so rare, the waterfront. I imagine it co:np)ated
and I see et as a link in a chain of it fet a water transportation syst_a
downtown connecting our parks system with a convention center and with our hotels
and we might get cars off the street. We're going to have to go some way to get
people around, we're going to get on the water and we're going to move people that
way. This is a beautiful and a marvelous honestly addition and I want to see an
exhibition hall included in it because a convention hall and an exhibition hall in
this area is ideal and will service the population to the fullest and I also commend
the Mayor for the final results. I think you negotiated a pretty good deal at
almost half or the appraised value or a little bit more although I don't recommend
you do it again without letting us know.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. William Jacoby.
Mr. William Jacoby: I wanted to stay and speak in part because I'm interested
in this and part because sometimes a criticism is made that us old Grovites
don't gee a damn about the rest of the community and are concerned only about
the trees down here. Well, here is one :that's not. First, I think that the Mayor
did an honorable thing in removing himself and abstaining from the vote. I think
that when this comes out in the media immediately one of the things that Father
Gibson has worried about is that some folks are going to say, "Uh huh, he did
have something cooking." That may be, 1 think it will be a real minority of
readers that will put that interpretation on it. I think most of the people are
going to feel that this is a descent guy who did the right thing. This is a time
in our country, anybody who has been reading the headlines for the last two years
knows the American people want some desr.ency and openness in their government,
that what he did is right in line with that and 1 commend him for it. Secondly
I want to commend him for his activity as have the other speakers in securing of
what I think is a fine site. The Mayor out of his own heritage, the Latin herit-
age is maybe more concerned about the soul of the city than North Americans are.
We norther.;. Americans I think go mostly for cheapest property values, lowest rent,
lowest construction costs hut he in many of his thoughts and proclamations and mot-
ions has been concerned for the health, the heart of the City of Miami. t think
that this convention site will help to ;•eep life infused and growing into what is
at the moment a rather precarious situation, We need to have a city that is vital
at its core. I think this convention site will provide that and in rexard to the
area the 44,1 acres whether it is adeguatt, many of the business associations and
professional societies and scientific a:sociarions that are looking for a location
for their annual convention are not really looking for accomodations for four and.
six thousand conventioneers, They're .1,,oxing for acdomodations for 250, 500, 1000 —
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maybe. Thi§ site will admirably aerVe that kind of thing and I don't think it
rubes ouc at the po§sibility that Miami may lead the way in Seat few years to
COMO for larger site for major societies like American Heart or whoever, tut
at the Mothetit WG have a chance to do something positive and vital and 1Cah bay
that I've talked to many of the other people who are active dawn here in the
drove in community affairs and there is a, t can't aay that I'm speaking for the
various Grave ababdiations, but t've heard murmuring§ of assent and pleasure
that this is going to be a good thing for the city. Letis go.
Mr, Plummer: Thank you, Mr. Jacoby, Mt, Perry costello,
a
Mr. Petry Cestello: My name is Perry Costello and t would just like to say t
know we're going to build a convention center and I think downtown it the plate
for it but I sh againtt this area mainly because of the cost of $4400,000.
Taxes continue to increase and I think $4,0co,000 is too much for this property
singe Bayfrott Park is s6 close to the same area where We oould build it at either
the bandshell site or the present exhibition hall site and save ourselves $4000,000,
Thank you.
Mr. Bruce Collins: Comnissiofter Gordon, gentlemen of the commission, my name is
Bruce Collins, business address 100 N,W, 37th Avenue, Miehi. I speak for the
firth Of on behalf of the Miami diatrict council Of the tnited
Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners, AFL-CIO. Please don't be alarmed, the
rest of my reMarks are brief. Shelter construction is virtually dead in the water
in South Florida. The expeditious erection of the proposed convention hall will
stimulate construction and ancillary business activity ih the downtown area includ-
ing, we hope, new hotel accomodations which are urgently needed, Business visitor
dollars are increasingly vital to our economic health in Miami. Therefore, the
carpenter's union strongly supports the acquisition and the development of the
site on the fast track basis because it will aid the economy in general and hope-
fully, Mr. Andrews, the 4000 out of work union carpenters. Thank you.
Mr. Lucius Williams: Mr. Vice Mayor and Commission, I just want to use this,
another opportunity to encelurage you to take this affirmative action today. To
my knowledge we have been talking about this for over 10 years, we've had six or
seven site selection committees. To my own atain most of those com-
mittees considered this site. The only reason it was not then selected is that
we did not have a magnanimous donor like Mr. Feinberg who could have given it to
us or given us a good reasonable buy on it. For the gentleman who talks about
out downtown not having shopping to support this, let me assure him that we have
more shopping in downtown Miami today than we had 10 years ago. We haven't had
a vacancy on Fiagler Street in over 7 years. There have been some transfers but
there has not been any vacancies and we have the facilities to utilize this and
I just want to join with the others in congratulating Mayor Ferre in putting
this together and certain Mr. Feinberg's generosity in making possible for us
to do it and most of all the City Manager for putting the financial package
together that makes this an implementation factor. This is a real possibility
if we can make this great step forward today. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: My list shows that concludes the speakers. Is that correct? Ok,
we'll now go back to the commission, Mrs. Gordon for a motion.
nrs. Gordon: It was with a great deal of pleasure that I have the opportunity
to be sitting on the City of Miami Commission at a time when we are really mak-
ing history where we are really moving forward. We are doing things, we aren't
just talking and with that, I would like to say I move the motion that we go
into the contract, the agreement and the resolution that has to be passed is
the resolution authorizing the City Manager of the City of Miami to enter into
the agreement attached hereto and made a part hereof for the purchase of certain
realy property in the downtown area of the City of Miami from the Feinberg fam-
ily for the purchase price of $4,000,000 and authorizing the Director of Finance
to allocate $4,010,000 for the purchase of said property and the necessary costs
and expenses incurred therewith including but not limited to abstracting and
title insurance from the Convention Center Bond Fund and the Virginia Key Sale
Trust Fund 1 so move.
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The Toll awing resolution Was introduced by CoallAiseibnrr Gtii don, who
Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTtO% NO, ,S-'11
A RESOLUTION At/MR=1NC At CITY MANAGl:tt Off' THE CITY O
MIAMt TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT ATTACHED HERETO ANb NAM
A PART HEREOF', POR THE PURCHASE OP CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY
tN THE bOWNTOWN AREA OP THE CITY oP MtAMI FROM THt f'EtNSERG
PAMttY, POR THE PURCHASE I'itt oP $40000,06o ANb AUTHORIZ-
ING THE DIRtCTOR OP PINANut TO AtIOCATt S4,010400 POR THE
PURCHASE Oir SAIb PROPERTY AND THE IOCESSARY COATS ANb EX�
PENES tNCURX b THEREWITH, INCLObttlO am NOT LYMtt b TO
ASSTRAC'l'rNG At1b Tint INsuRANCt PROM THE CONVENTION CENTER
lONb FUND AND THE VIRGINIA I(EY SALE TROST FUND:
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Con tmissioner Reboso, the resolution was
'meted and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Reboso
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Gordon
Commissioner Plummer.
NOES: None.
ASSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
Mr. Plummer: Before voting, let me states that an far as one commissioner is
concerned, Mr. Mayor, you owe me no apology. What) I was asked was I surprised
at the negotiations I said, "Yes" and my answer is still the same, pleasantly
surprised that the City of Miami, it's people will become the owners of a 7.125
malion dollar piece of property for $4,000,000 for its expansion or for its
convention center. vote Yes.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, now that you're back as chairman chairing the meeting
again, may I suggest that the commission might want to encourage the signing
of the agreement immediately which we have in final form here. Mr. Andrews is
here, the Clerk is here to attest it and Mr. Feinberg is here, all parties are
here.
Mrs. Cordon: Do you need a motion to that affect?
Mr. Lloyd: No, you don't .need a motion to that affect, you've authorized it;
it is perfectly legal.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, well I've got a little talking to do so while I talk you
can sign and we won't waste any time. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to
take it as a matter of personal priviledge to address, and I apologize for tak-
ing so much of your valuable time but i hope this won't take more than just a
`-.w r,inutes. Since there have been kind of strong and bitter remarks made about
all of this on the part of some people that don't seem to be present today I'd
like to just for the record and on the record go over this a little bit so that
it is clearly understood. First of all before doing that I want to thank Mr. Fan-
natto, Mr. Barber, Mr. Jacoby, all of the gentlemen that were so kind in their
words towards my actior. on this matter. I think it is important that I trace the
history of this so that we have this clearly on the record. I first heard of
this property being for sale from Mr. Jim Billings who called me on the phone
and informed me the property was available and that he would like to discuss it
with me. I subsequently talked to Mr. Billings and then I talked to Dan Paul, the
attorney for Mr. Feinberg. In the meantime I had requested Mr. Lucius Williams of
the Downtown Development Authority to talk to Mr. Feinberg and find out, verify
whether thi ;vaa really the fact, this was before I had talked to Mr. Paul, and
then after I talked to Lucius Williams and he in turn talked to Mr. Feinberg Mr,
Paulcalled me which was the first time I ever talked to him about it. I didn't
know he was the attorney on record. We met a,nd discussed the matter. Two things
were told to me (1) was the price which at that time was $35 a square foot, The
second thing that was told to me was that this could not be discussed openly
because the Holiday Inn Franchise that they had would be jeopardized. I called up
Mr. Paul Andrews and discussed with him the possibility of the City of Miami enter-
ing into negotiation, Mr, Andrews thought tha this offered some exciting possibil-
ities. He was traveling under the mandate of the commission to look for alternate -
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sites. The ooTYnissien had so ntandeted the Manager and you have a copy of the
resolution somewhere around here that specifically referred to that, NtW, some
weeks ;passed and maybe a month and 1 it talking to Mr. Paul again who said that
Mr. Peinberg Was getting anxious set up a meeting of! April 21st which is the first
time had ever let Mr. Peinber-g and was the only time that t i ve talked to him,
We had a luttohoen at the Cc luftlbut Hotel. Present were, Mr. Peinberg, Mr, Hiililgs,
Paul, Mr. Andrews and thyself and we discussed at length, not only the pride but
the possibilities of deferred payment, leasing of the property, all of the varitiea
of things that we thought were important in cohsiderat of for the benefit of the
City of Miami. t want to mention that ih the meantime, 1 want to say this on the
record, that at least twice and maybe three times at the Downtown Development
Authority which 1 think is a proper body for public discussion, 1 diaoussed the
°einberg property. Mow if the 1teMbers of the press did net cover it that is the
problem of the press and hot the problem of Maurice Ferre or the Downtown Develop-
ment Authority. The Downtown Development Meetings are public meetings, they are
open to the press. If they are not covered that is not Tny concerts. NOW 1 asked
Mr. Lucius Willitnas exactly and Mr. Bill Wolfarth, the distinguished former Mayor
of the City of Miami and I don't know whether he's still in the audience or not
but I asked him and Bill Wolfarth told me that it could have been maybe as many
as three times that this thing was discussed at the Downtown bevelopmeit Authority
in separate meetings definitely the first one being in January subsequent to my
first discussion with Mr. Billings. Now, I further discussed this at a series of
meetings that were held, one of them specifically was a meeting before the Downtown
Action Committee for the Chamber of Commerce where there were over 30 people present.
2 also discussed it on the following dates with various members of the community
including Zr..Harry Hood Bassett, Mr. Alvah Chapman, Mr. Hank Meyer, Mr. Chuck
Codd, the President of Arvida to mention but a few. February 21st, February 19th,
March 27th, May 5th which was the Downtown Ideas Meeting which Mr. Marty Tine was
at. There were at least 15 community leaders present at that meeting where this
Matter was discussed. Mr. Lester Freeman of the Chamber of Commerce, Mr, Maurice
Alpert, Mr. Mitchell Wolfson, Mr. Bill Colson, Mr. James Brown, President of Southern
Bell Telephone Company. I would like to lastly say that this matter was held up
for the following reasons I have not discussed before this time publically. I had
a meeting with Mr. Maurice D. Alpert, the President of International City Corporat-
ion who is developing the Omni Project. At that meeting Mr. Alpert recommended to
me the proper site for the convention, the proper location for a coaveetizn
site would be ir. Watson Island. He had very convincing arguments. To me I have
always been a rpoponent that even though I'm an advocate of leaving all the bayfront
area now as green as possible even though I want people use it ought to be,open
green space; that the Watson Island location offers a magnificent opportunity for
some kind of people magnet type of development. And this convention site was not
conceived as a convention site and I want it because this leads into what I think
the design should be on this. It was going to be a conference center where we were
going to hold multi -national type of things where we could attract the Brazilian
doctors tc come here and have their medical convention and have simultaneous trans-
lations and a very exciting type of a project of that nature. Now there was a
meeting attended and at that meeting, again in the Columbus Hotel where the Chamber
of Commerce was involved, the concept was and Mr. Paul Andrews was there also be-
sides myself that this should be studied. Mr. Andrews and I specifically stated
on the record, and I want to say it again here that we could not involve ourselves
in a di;.e:euion of this nature that involved city property without first discussing
it with the commission so that if these people were acting they were acting as free
agents and individuals and citizens and they were on their own. They were, of course,
entitled to do that. Subsequent to that a study was made by the firm of Hammer,
Seiler, Geurge Associates, economic consultants, 230 Peach Street in Atlanta, Georgia.
That report was not forthcoming until the 9th day of July. In that report the con-
clusion is strongly that Watson Island is not the location for a convention center.
And the concluding, I am not going to make this a matter c'f the record because it
is a private document and given to me in that sense that the city did not pay for
this and I do not feel at liberty to release this even though I have requested per-
mission to read the basic or the final and strong sedence which concludes as this:
On balance the disadvantages associated with a general purpose convention center on
Watson Island outweigh the assets of an island location, I received that on, the 16th
day of July. It was mailed f:on Atlanta, Georgia on the 14th day of July. I dis-
cussed this Fatter over the phone with Mr. Alpert and he told me that he could not
any longer espouse the idea of having a convention center on Watson Island. AT
that point I also talked to Mr. Chuck Cobb who is involved in this whole process,
And by the way, this study was not paid for by the city of Miami; it was paid for
by the Arvida Corporation, aurdines, Southeast Bank and the Miami Herald publishing
Company. Now once this study was released to me so that I could study it and I dis.-
cussed it with Mr, Chuck Cobb he told me that that W4s conclusive in h=•s opinion,
This is why I waited so long to bring this to the counisSion. Now in the meantime
Mr, Paul had called me and told me that three months had gone by, it was April. 21st,
May had gone by, June had gone by and we were into July and on the'2ist day of July
it would be three months, This was the second week of July and MI, Paul told me
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that the fawner Of the property, Mr. Feinberg would net wair much ringer and as the
delhaet uehet of that t told Mr. Andrews who during this very saute tithe had gone ahead
With his staff and I think Mr. CtteUth was the head of that effort to restudy and
study all possible locations, About the third week of July Mtn. Andrews reported to
Me that he wat; ready and he had made his conelusibhs separate to this 1 had not
tbit him about this conclusion. This study had nothing to de with the adtid.histrat1
;ton' a conclusions, sions, Mr. Andrews then told the and reported tie Me that in hie opinion
there was he redestieh that this was the best iodation for the eenvar tion site. 1
at that MOMeht, Which 1 would guess would have been some tithe in the third week of
July car 1 think that must have been on the llth (it couldn't have been because 1
received this report on about the ,nth) i think that Mr. Andrews told ttte thie
sometime around Friday the llth or Monday or sottetime ih that time and t asked him
to put it tin the agenda for the first tweeting in July which was the i'ith, Now 1
had gotten a phone call previous to the mailing of this thing giving tie the behelua»
ion. This is how the dates coincide. Based on this report, based oh Mr. A idrewe'
conclusion 1 asked that it be scheduled on the 17th. And that, ladies and gentlemen,
ie the history, the full history and I'm perfectly willing to answers` any questions
oh this item that anybody might have.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, as I announced to you earlier, due to circumstances beyond
my control I am going to have to leave and _I. will, of course, froth this point on
listen to the tape.
Mayor Ferret One thing before you leave, very quickly. We left the matter and now
you voted, I diea't vote but now I'm back into the fold. Now, I personally think
that it is absolutely essential that we move. You know this city has a tendency to
stagnate on things because we take too long to study. And I'm going to bring Mr.
Bill O'Leary in in about 5 minutes after this item because I ran into hit last night
and I chewed him out royally hecaz.se it was 6 months ago when we asked this man to
finish this little dinky eini-dark and it is 6 months and he hasn't done anything
on it and I really chewed him out on it. He said, "Well, it's not all my fault."
But he's been sitting on this thing for :six months yes he has, this thing came
up in January. Yes, sir. Now he may have taken three months to negotiate this
contract but I can tell you that we voted on this thing in January of this year and
that's s.ie months and that's a dinky litr.i.e contract. I said, "Weil, why eren't
you ready?" end he said, "Well, ae• " ee ;m to come dot he,
discuss this matter but before we getto that we have a tendency to bog down and
take forever to do things around this town. I'm not just talking about the City
of Miami. And I think it is absolutely essential that we move with vigor and post-
haste into this thing because I'd like to see this thing under construction in six
months. And if that means fast -track, let's fast -track. And if that means that
we're going to deal with architects that are now under contract, Pancoast, Ferrindino
and Grafton that's who I think we ought to deal with. I want to announce into the
record I have not discussed this with Pancoast, Ferrindino and Grafton, it is not
in any way a prearranged or preconceived or pre -anything. As far as I'm concerned
I think that these people are under financial obligation to finish off some kind of
a design and that's a wedge that we have and I think we ought to use whatever pres-
sure we can to get them to finish that design and upgrade and fit it if we can into
this project before we go out and start having en architectural competition or any-
thing else that's goig to take two yeare or a year under AIA rules to get finalized
and cos e7e0,OOO. I want to see, and this is just one voice here, I'd like to see
this under cee struction in six months if possible. Now that's just my personal
opinion.
Mr. Andrews: You recognize from the description I've given the City Commission
with reference to the Grafton agreement :which concludes on, and there is some debate
on the actual date, the llth or the 26th of August; and I have a letter that I
received from them to extend that period of time until approximately the 26th of
September. Now Mx. Lloyd wilihave to comment on that matter of the extension of
that agreement to give us time to determine what should be done, what can be done
with the existing contract. And, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, I want
to tell you right at this point from my knowledge of the status of those plans I'm
skeptical that that's going to work out like we would like it to work out.
Mayor Fer;t:: ok, I read you let we've got to try and I want you to builf a bonfire
under that guv.
Mr. Andrews; Yes, but I'm very skeptical at this point that that is going to work
out and it may cause us a little more time to go through the whole process again
but if we're going to e. o this, we've gone at it the way we hsve,..
Mrs, Gordon: .,. Yes. bet Pancoast is a different firm, I have nothing against
either one, I'm just saying they're not the same.
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Mayor Perrot Whether fester Pancoast left of not that's got nothing to do with
it. The fact is that We put in $2 t iOOO, it's been spent. That to the means ae'Ve
gbt a whip over thea& guys and W6 ought to use it as far as pugs ible. t4isw if it
doesn't work and we can't fit that into this er we can't COMO up with a good deal
for the City bf Miami then wtive got &nether store I'm not going for any ediMpet.
itir n, This vote will not be for that.
Mr tslummert set to understated its Mr. Mayor, so that we can all be aware of
eitat:tly what we're looking at. You have the option to extend to the 20 something
of September. Mow I would suggest that you furnish us a paper 'outlining all the
particulars So that we can take action one of those first meetings its 'September
and then we can snake a determination. but right now I would like to know exactly
where we stand.
Mt. Andrews: I planned to go further than that at the first meeting in September
I Was proposing to G me back with all of the information to that you could hake
a decision.
tire. Gordon: t haven't the vaguest idea at this moment what those plans that
Mir. Andrews is talking about contain and I'm not about ready to buy a eat in a
bag. So I'm not saying I'M opposed to it but I'm not saying rim going to go
with it until I have full information about what it's all about. Don't ask me
to Vote on it.
Mr. Plummer. alright, so we'll vote on it in the first week of September.
Mr. Andrews: There is no need to vote at this stage. It's so the commission is
aware of what is going on so that I can bring this back for them in tittle so we
don't bridge our agreement if the commission wishes to go with the finishing of
those plans.
Mayor Ferre: I don't want to rub salt into the wound but I'm going to tell you
that I would like to make a position and I will pass the gavel on to the Vice
Mayor and I want to make a motion at this point so that there is no question
about who is making the motion - his name is Maurice Ferre. I'm making a motion
that we ro on record that we're not going to go to any architectural competition.
I'm making a :action now...
Mr. Plummer: Please, he has the right to make a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, not if it doesn't pass that's fine. Now I'm making a
motion that we not go to architectural competition, that we give a vote of con-
fidence to the Manager to try to finalize a good deal for the City of Miami with
the present people under contract and come back to us for a final vote and tell
us what you're going to do and what it is. If that doesn't work then I want you
to recommend three architects like you've done in the past and thiscommission
will do like we've done in the past, we're going to select an architectural firm.
The last time we did it for a major project was with Pancoast and Associates, and
I'm going to tell you that's a beautiful building.
Mrs. Gordon: We had three at that time too, Maurice.
Mr Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute, Mrs. Gordon...
Mrs. Gordon: And before you get a second I want to...
Mr. Plummer: You can't discuss it until we get a second. Now is there a second?
Seconded by Commissioner Reboso. Mrs. Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: I wanted to say exactly what I said before. I don't want to be
pressured and I don't want to be pushed against the wall to make any determinat-
ions on something I know nothing about and I don't want to say I'm not going to
have a competition or I'm not going to say I am going to have one. At this point
in time, Maurice, I think that it isn't really fair for you to pressure us that
way and I feel th pressure,
Mr. Plummer; Ok, any other discussion?
Mayor Ferre; Yes, because I might withdraw it. Let me make sure that we under-
stand what it is that I'm saying.
Mrs. Gordan; understand you,
Mayor Ferre; I'M not saying? Rose, that we have to accept Ferrindino, Grafton,
$pil.lie and aurnhaan. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that 1 want the Manager to
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have the freedom to try to tyegotiate the best deal he tan for us with them, if
that isn't acceptable to us all I'm stating is a matter of philosophy on this
eamminion that we're hot going to take the tide to go to eh architectural oorpetit'
it'll) that this COMMiSbieh at the proper time will select from the three that the
Manager will bring to us for selection an architectural first to do the job,
Mra. Cordon: 1 never want anyone to say that my vote negatively to this Metier
if any reflection oh the firm ih question who I respect greatly for their ability
find for them reputation but 1 do net believe that a Motion is in order on this
subject at this tittle and 1 believe the Manager has every authority to do what he's
tlbitlg without this slot on being placed on the table. And again I reiterate it is
uncalled for, it is a pressure Totieh, I don't Wart to be pressured and I'm going
'Lb vote against it fot that reason.
Mayor ?erre: I watt to ask Paul his opinion.
Mr. Andrews: I believe that I should receive some consideration, sotfle direction
from the commission and the reason for that is that this is a complicated under-
taking because the plans are partly finished. It does not include foundation and
site work and there is money yet to be spent on this set of plans and I think it
is proper to exhaust that area to make sure that we haven't set aside the value
that we put in these plans. We mustn't forget, I know the commission hasn't for-
gotten this but it should get in the public record. We spent $255,000 on this
set of plans.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, I understand all of thatl I realize that and this matter
that is coming up today is for the purchase of the property. The property is just
being purchaser], it is going to take time to close it and you have every authority
to investigate, every authority to investigate all aspects of that previous set of
plans. In fact, if you had had that information today perhaps we would have been
able to go further with it. But I am asking you again, my fellow commissioners,
not to have a vote that is not a unanimous vote in a situation that has been as
good as this one has been to this moment.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Vice Mayor, Mr. Andrew:,, you talk about ... Mr. Andrews, what
disturbs -me about what we're about to do is, atd I think what Mrs. Gordon is :7: y-
ing - what she's afraid of is what she isn't saying. if we have already invested
$250,000 or thereabouts where were those plans being drawn for? What location,
spot, land?
Mr. Andrews: Where the bandshell is now located in Bayfront Park.
Rev. Gibson: Well, what Mrs. Gordon is saying is whether or not, she questions
whether or not those plans can be adapted to - that's what she's saying.
Mr. Andrews: I do too.
Mayor Ferre: I didn't want to say...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Reboso. ... Would you bow to the Mayor? Mr. Ferre.
Mayor Ferre: I was hoping to avoid getting into all of this but what this in
affect... I was hoping to avoid getting into this but here is what this means.
There's no way that those plans can be transferred. I know that. There is no
way. I've looked at them. I know because these plans are available.
Mrs. Gordon: I wish they were...
Mayor Ferre: THey are available. They belong to the public, the City of Miami.
You can any time you want just ask Vince Grimm for them and he'll bring them to
your office.
Mrs. Gordon; Maurice, you're not getting my point. -
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I want you to listen to mine because I haven't finished.
Those Leans are not transferrable. I know that, NOw let me finish. But, and
here is the but, these guys made a tacticle error. They signed a contract and
that contract said that they would extend until August 12th that they would for
$58,000 they would finish those drawings. Now there ain't no way in :he world
for $58,000 they can finish those drawings. Now all I'm thinking of.., YOU know
'm sorry, I think like a businessman and I'm just trying to figure Qua: that if
maybe we could pressure these guys a little bit for $58,000 we might get Qur-
selves a brand new set of drawings for a brand new building,
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Mrc. dOrdti t I don't Want to take anybody through a hoop.
Mr. I b' 3t5; Mrs Viee,Mayor ► 4 agree with what Cot t tissio ier Gordon is sayings I
think tho City Manager should report to us it September 4th with three names and
than we sh sold...
Mayor Perret Alright, them t withdraw my motion and make another Motion that the
Manager by the first Meeting of September come to us with three architectural firms
to dc, the drawing, that we Select one of then
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, that's ok, or any other tecotnThendation he Tight sole up With,
Mayor Ferre: I would accept that as an amendment.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-712
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER, AT THE
't1tST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, TO SUBMIT NAMES OF THREE A HI.,
TECTUP.iL FIRMS FOR THE COMMXSSION TO CONSIDER AND SELECT ONE
EUR TFiE DESIGN OF THE NEW DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Comissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor t L. Plummer, .Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: Done.
JUL 31 1975
19, INVESTIGATE FEASIBILITY OF MOVINC CITY OFFICES TO GUSMAN HALL BUILDING
Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, may I bring something up? It will take very quick because
Mr. Plummer is going to leave and I want him to hear what I'm going to say. We
are going to be taking up an item later with regard to the gift that was given
to us by Mr. Gusman and we are going to take an action which will set up the manage-
ment of that property. Prior to us taking that action I_ want to put this on the
table for you to hear. Maurice, I want you to hear it, you're probably the most
affected by all of this. The office building portion of the Gusman property con-
tains approximately close to 40,000 square feet of office space some of which is
leased and some of which is vacant, some of which are on short term leases - most
of them are rented at a rate of slightly less than $5.00 a square foot per year. I
bring this to your attention because there is a thought that perhaps we ought start
that move to downtown with the City Hall and that perhaps this is your area to begin
at least a temporary location of the most important portions of the City Hall operat-
ion which is the Commission, the Manager and the auditorium there, the Gusman Hall
could m the commission day. It is a very nice hearing room. So I bring
this L, the table for your consideration and I know we cannot move all our offices
there because there isn't enough room in that building. for the amount of space that
the City Hall occupies here in this complex but there are certain portions of our
city operation that could move with us and be housed in that building and whether
or not that action could be taken if it is under the authority of the Off -Street
Parking Authority. 2 don't know, and maybe it could but this is a very, it would
be a giant step forward in starting everything downtown, bringing people downtown
not just for the convention center and hopefully an exhibition hall but also for
commission that the people can get to from all over the City of Miami very easily
very accessibly. So I would direct you, Mr. Manager, by way of a motion to investi-
gate the feasibility of this move from this area and this would then make available
for the Dinner Key Plan the evacuation of this building to conform to the Dinner Key
Plan. So I w::uid so move that you investigate. The motion is a broad motion just
for investigation, Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: Now Rose, I want to make sure we understand that this even though,
oh, we haven't announced it, on Friday we close everything and it's ou:- property
then, l forgot to announce that this morning, I'm sorry. It is my pleasure to
announce that Friday at the capable hands of John Lloyd and Mr. Gusman': attorney_
everything was hammered out and we ended up with a title to the property and it
has been duly recorded so it's ours. But in the title is a provision, The provis-
ion says that this property is to be run by the off -Street Parking Authority. So
we cannot do anything, and that was the deal, M. Gusman said for those of you who
might he like that Mr, Woman said, "I wi11 give it to the city but ah authority
tot run it. And if you desn't want eh authority you don't ilet the building," That
wad the choice.
Mt GOraoht I'M not a lawyer Mituriee, but t could ask a lawyer it th&t would
preclude the idea that we have it mind1 doe't think it Weld.
Mayor Perm if the Off -Street Larking Authority it against it then it would.
Mks. Gerdeh: Yes, well they are subject to what? They're still under the city,
they're het a separate government.
Mayor Ferre: They're a semi-aUtonoteus unit.
Mrs. Gordon: I 'K.now bat still t Mean the motion is f'or you, Mt, Manager to investi-
gate. Ok?
Mayor Ferre: z'm all for it, I'll second that motion.
The following motion was introduced by commissioner Gordon, who
Moved its adoption:
MOT/ON NO. 75-713
A MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO STUD, THE FEASIB/LITY
OP MOVING SOME CITY OFFICES TO THE DOWNTOWN OLYMP/A BUILDING
AND TO REPORT HIS FINDINGS TO THE COMMISION.
Upon being seconded by mayor Ferre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
7eneer Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
JUL 3flJTh
ACCEPT PRELIMINARY 46 WEST FLAGLER STREET MINI -PARK
20,
LANDSCAPE PLANS
mayor Perre: I want to preface this by telling the commission that last night
at a dinner I ran into Bill O'Leary and got very upset with him because he's been
sitting on this thing for six months... Well, that's the way I see it, you convince
me differently. He was told to get going with this thing six months ago and I want
to know why it's taken him to July to finish this design. Now don't put it here,
put it where people can see it. This is that little mini -park next to Flagler
Center. Dan Paul is going to ask you some questions so you'd better talk straight.
He wants to know why there isn't any water there and z want to know that too.
Mrs. Gordon: What kind of water are you talking about, a fountain?
P.:. Bill O'Leary Mr. Mayor and commissioners, my name is Bill O'Leary. I'm a
landscape architect and we do have water and you kind of hurt me when you called
it a dinky little park because it's going to be...
Mayor Ferre: No, I mean a small... You know what I mean.
Mr. O'Leary: I know what you mean. But it is going to be a very viable happening
place and it's going to be a little island of green and a place where you can sit
in a highly urbanized area as we all know. As you probably know the area is 35X120
feet in depth. ... Nothing to do with the shape of the property but our concept is
that we really create a fecal point and an access that will attract people into this
area and that we do it with a rather sizeable waterfall.
Mayor Ferre; Oh, then there is water there.
Mr, O'Leary: There is water, a rather sizeable waterfall approximately 20 feet in
neight on the south side of this park which would be the north wall of the parking
garage that is directly behind us. This would be the parking garage, ,:his is Flagler
Street.
Mayer Ferre: Is there a wall there now, Bill? Is that it? I see,
JUL 3 1 1975
M. O'Leary: we're surrounded by three structures. On the north tide you've
got the very tall tevits building, Or the south side you've grit a parking gar..
age that would probably be about three stories high acid than Ohl the west side
you've got a one story shoe store. Our concept is that this would be an area
that could be used not only by the secretary who has brought her lunch and would
like a place to sit down and buy a cold dritrk ih stae shade and have her lunol%
but it is also desighed for the retiree who'd like to go in there during the day
of the evening and play a game of theokers or play a game of cards. 'We're going
to have...
Mayor Ferret bill, tan t interrupt you and ask questions as we go alohr? D0
you have tables?
Mr. O'Leary: Yes, we do, We have seating for approximrately 140 to Ito people
in this area.
Mayor Ferret 'They're fixed so somebody can't go and steal them or s0tnetiing?
Air. O'Leary: No► they're trot fixed, We are going to have fixed seating in the
way of a lot of planter benches but these are going to be movable tables and
chairs. tt will be the responsibility of the concessionaire to make sure that
those tables and chairs stay where they are and we're reconunendint that so that
we can really change the configuration of this area from time to tine and add to
it.
Mayor Ferre: You don't think people will steal those things?
Mr. O'Leary: I don't think so, not with the concessionaire in that area.
Mr. Lucius Williams: L'specially if they belong to the concessionaire.
Mr. O'Leary: Right. Not only that he's going to pay for them so it would behoove
him to keep tabs cn them.
N;'or Ferre: Now what does the concessionaire sell? Hot dogs and beer and wine?
Mr. O'Leary: Oh no. He's going to sell cold drinks, no bottles or cans. He's
going to sell popcorn, peanuts. He may sell some fast food; a little radar range
where you might get a hot dog. But you're not going to get a major meal in this
area. What we are providing the concessionaire is a basic shell and he will include
the components that he feels are essential.
Mayor Ferre: Bill, we're late, can we cut through? How much money is it going to
cost?
Mr. O'Leary: We have budgeted $90,000 and that's what we've designed it for.
Mayor Ferre: Do you think you can get it for that?
Mr. O'Leary: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Gordon: What are you going to put on the walls, Bill?
Mr. O'Leary: Well, we'd like to encourage some ivy and really fertilize it but
they're not our walls,
Mrs. Gordon: Can we get permission to paint them or put some decorative...
Mr. O'Leary: Well, I'd like to encourage some vines to grow up that wall.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I think it is important that we get permission to do that so
that this thing will be a green haven.
Mr. O'Leary: Exactly. We're also putting in some very sizeable trees, 20-24 foot
trees so is uinthizes the impact of the very large building, You're under the can-
opy of a tree which is more in scale with the pedestrian.
Mayor Ferre: Is that part of the price?
Mr. O'LLeary; Yes, it is.
Mayor Ferre; How about kids that want to jump into that water, what are you going
to do about avoiding that?
Mr. Olteary: Well, I think anytime you have water you're going to have that
problem, I would say it it only gtiht o be about 18 to 24 ihehee deep and
it they want to jump in it let them jump in. We have a behCh around it and
if eorneene wants to jump in they're going to. Therels do way you're going to
atop thetti. We have provided a ramp for the handicapped and We are gbi it t;
recommend that MI6 type of a movable date be provides so that thie could be
Lifted at night. It is going to be lit. It it going tee have an automatic
irrit atiott system.
Mayor perre: :low does that, toes it roll?
Mr. O'Leary: it's going to roll..
Mayor f'erre: Where is it going to roll frog? `hat's not your building.
Mrs. Gordon: What is the width of that lot, Bill?
Mr. O'Leary: Thirty-five plus.
Mrs. Gordon: What is the depth of it?
Mr. O'Leary: 120. We're going all the way to the curb with hew paving. We're
going to take up the existing sidewalk and we're going to use sotne itice brick
paving, hexagonal brick in an interesting pattern all the way to the curb it-
self with treea nut in the public right-of-way.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. I'm serious about this, I'm not kidding I really mean it; but
if you get permission from the owners can you imagine some kind of paintings or
murals on those walls?
Mr. O'Leary: There could be some graphics. I had heard at one time that the owner
planned on doing that but since then I've been told that the building is in reciever-
ship. So I think we will investigate that.
Mayor 'erre: What's the brown stuff, are those tiles?
Mr. O'Leary: This is brick.
Mayor Ferrer Rough brick or slick brick?
Mr. O'Leary: It cannot be slick because it is a hazard. What we're going to do is
create interesting paving patterns by changing the shape of brick; No sand, no grass,
Well illuminated and easily visible. We have created no particular problems as far
as visual hazards are concerned.
Mr. wi:l°-.ams: Correct me if I'm in error, but around the planters for the trees
there will be grass in there which gives you the visual impact of the greenness.
Mr. O'Leary: There will be, Lucius, very low ground cover. Grass is a maintenance
problem and it probably would not grow there.
Mr. wi...L:.ams: Ground cover, but it is going to be green, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Fer}e: Rose, I'd like to move on this thing. Does anybody object to it?
Administration?
Mrs. Gordon: Are there any fish in that water?
Mr. O'Leary: No fish.
UNIDENTIFIED S?-EAKER: What's the height of the waterfall in the little mini -park
in New York that started all of this?
Mr. O'Leary: I think it is approximately 20 feet in height,
UNIDETIFIED SPEAKER; I think it is terribly important that this waterfall be
important enough that you see it over the trees, see it from the street and even
more important, hear it from the street because that's the whole secret of attract-
ing people into the park.
Mr. O'Leary: You're going to hear it and you're going to see it and you're going
to hear it and see it at night too. We're going to illuminate from the water
itself, hopefully white lights. Colored lights certainly don't look natural at
all.
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Mayor Verret They turn you off.
Mr, Wtearyt Yes# they do,
Mayor Petra: NOW how high it this thing going to bet
Mrs O'Learyt Approximately 20 feet,
Mayor Perrot NOW is this acceptable tO you, Mr. Paul?
Mt, Paul: No, it's not a question of whether it's acceptable to the I just want
to ask Ott other question ah d that is it looks to te maybe these sketches were done
at different tithes that you've got an awful lot of different kinds of materials
mixed together ih there and again I think the beauty of that Ohe ih taw York is
the simplicity of the design.
Mr. O'Leary: We have basically as far as plant materials are concerned two types,
We'Ve got one type of tree and ohe type of groUnd cover.
Mr. Paul: I'm talking about the paving.
Mr. O'Leary: Well, 1 think this is artist license where we come up and we start
making one brick darker than the other. But all of the brown is one kind of brick.
Mayor Ferre: Bill, you're hot following his question. You see where the yellow
seats are? What is the paving under that?
Mr. O'Leary: What's the paving under this area? It will probably be concrete.
Mayor Ferree Ok, that's his question.
Mr. Paul: And also I noticed in the front you've sort of blocks and things that
look like different kinds of paving.
Mr. O'Leary: I see that but what you're actually seeing instead; we have the same
color and the same finish of brick. The only thing that we have done is that we
have changed the pattern and the shape so that if we have.a hexagonal area in this
rectangle we have bordered it with a standard double course of 4 x 8 brick just to
create interest. This is a preliminary scheme. We have not finalized that. It
will be brick and I appreciate what you said that it should be simple and compatable.
Mr. Paul: Only one other thing and it's not in connection with this. Are you
going to talk about parking in the Bayfront Park today?
Mayor Ferre 1 certainly have no intentions of doing that.
Mr. Paul: Sometime I wish you'd set a time on the agenda because I'm extremely
concerned about the amount of extra parking.
Mayor Ferre: You have my committment to that and I will let you know and Mr.
Kassewiz -T.2 all those that are interested.
mr:;. Gordon: Maurice I think it is important because a lot of people have said it.
Mayor Ferre: I promise, give you my solemn oath that it will be discussed openly
and publically and you will have your day and Lou too.
Mr. Andrews: Mr, Mayor, before you make the motion I just want the record to
reflect that the commission passed a resolution - 75-342 dated April 10, 1975
for me to enter into a contract to get this accomplished but these plans are not
due in my office until tomorrow according to this contract for My review.
Mr. o'Leary: Correct.
Mr. Andrews: This has been done since April, Mr, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: NOw PaUl, we talked about this in this City Hall. I can tell you
that my memory is not that bad. I'll give you the date, it was in January,
M. Andrews; But I'm trying to tell you, Mr. mayor, that we went through a select-
ion process for this Consultant and that on April lOth you authorized an entering
of a contract with this gentleman.
Mayor Ferre: Paul, I'm going all Over the country bragging about You, Now You've
got to give me hotter ammunition than to say that it takes us 7 months to do something
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like this. Wow under the Andrew§ administration it takes 3 months te get some
thing like this going. Ok? NOW is there a Motieh,
Mr. O'Leary: Yet, Mr. Mayor, we had 10 days to complete it and we did.
Mrs. Oordon: Thirty days, good. How long will it take to develop it?
Mt. O'Leary: To complete the plant sixty days.
Mayor ?erre And how long will it take to see a park there?
Mr. O'Leary: We're estimating costruction of four tit) title months.
Mayor Ferre: What you're telling Me is that if everything proceeds according to
schedule we could have it ih January for the iCentennial se P1ummer can cut some
ribbon someplace BiCehtennial Day,
NOTE: Commissioner J. L. Plummer left the meeting during this item,
The following motion was introduced by CoMmissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-714
A MOTION ACCEPTING IN PRINCIPLE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTED
THIS DATE BY MR. WILLIAM O'LEARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIN/ -
PARK ON CITY -OWNED PROPERTY ON WEST FLAGLER STREET IN THE DOWN-
TOWN AMA.
Upon being secon6ed LI Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABS17NT:
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Ferre: At this time we have with us the Mayor of Brownsville, Texas and
I would like to call forward the Honorable Jim Mills and with him Mr. Marcello
Hernandez and Peline Mendoza from Miami and Brownsville, Texas. I might say
that we share a distinguished Bishop. Mr. Mayor, if you'd come around we'll
shake your hand, give you a key.
JUL 3 1 1975
"BLACK SUNDAY" REQUEST PERMISSION TO USE THE
21, PERSONAL APPEARANCE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM ETC'
OF MOVIE PRODUCERS OF
Mayor Ferre: These people have come all the way from California today to be
present. T would like to recognize at this time Mr. John Frankenheimer and
Mr. Bob leeisen. Now ladies and gentlemen, I hope that we'll be able to do this
very quickly and if you would state your name for the record and tell us exactly
what it is that you propose we'll get right on.
Mr. Robert Rosen: My name is Robert Rosen. I'm the Executive Producer of a
motion picture entitled Black Sunday*hich will be distributed and financed by
Paramount Pictures. The picture will be produced by Robert Evans whose credits
include God Father, Love Story and most recently Chinatown and will be directed
by the gentleman on my left here, John Frankenheimer whose credits include Gran
Prix, Bird Man of Alcatraz, Manchurian Candidate and most recently French Con-
nection II which I produced for Twnentieth Century Fox. We are here looking for
locations and asking for support and cooperation from the people of Miami in
making our motion Picture Black Sunday. So you know a little more about it, it
is a major motion picture. It will budgeted. at upwards of 7;2 million dollars,
three to four million of which Would be spent in the city that we ultimately pick
as our basic location. We have an enormous amount of requirements for extras,
local extras, bits, local technicians, drivers, equipment, hotel rooms,,,
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you just tell us how much money you plan to spend in this
community?
Mr, Rosen; Three to four million dollars.
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Mra, dordont And what kind of location ate you requiring?
Mr. Moen: Our major or requirement in order to keep the picture in Mia1ni is the
Orange Bowl. Our prerequeeite to shooting the pieture in ary city that we tiltino
ately pick would be a MajOr football etadiui t. We would use the Orange Bowl ea
follows: In the utter part of NeVeMber of the beginning of December we would
photograph a season game of the Mi&n i bolphihs. We've had diseueeiona With Jbe
ibbie and have received his enthuaiastie cooperation. On the leth of January
Super bowl bay We would like to photograph again the Super Awl. Again, out re"
guireftents are hot the fottbali game perse but photographing the fanffi. We would
utilize a hidden camera technique# a documentary style whioh would hot in any way
take away from► the game itself, We would look a great deal like all the press
photographers that exist there at the game.
Mrs. Gordon: Is that all you heed of us?
Mr. kosen: No. It goes on. On the 19th of January we would start shooting for
approximately 14 weeks in the Miami area and within that period of time we would
need the Orange Howl for approximately 3 weeks where we would stage the action
for the script. We are even investigating the possibility of putting ona rock
concert of some kind to bring people into the stadium itself that we could use
for photographing the picture. Basically, that's what we're here for. We've
received a very warm welcome in Miami from the Florida Film Commission and the
union leaders some of which are here today and we ask for your help and recommend-
ation also in this matter.
Mrs. Gordon: You said you needed a location, The only location you've mentioned
so far is the use of the Orange Bowl for certain periods of time. No other locat-
ion requirements?
Mr. Rosen: Th rest of the locations are very simple ones where we would be deal-
ing with private property and really would not need your...
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I was getting to because we have had problems in the
pas": with private property, residential areas and that's why I was leading up to
that. What ;tic: your plans on that?
Mr. Rosen: Well, there are quite a number of locations but they include hotels,
Mrs. Gordon! You aren't talking about a particular residential area, moving in
and photographing...
Mayor Ferre: We won't need Sepe DeBronia's home. Ok? And we won't have problems
in Coconut Grove. But let me tell you what the problem is because I think we have
to be very open about this. I want to be very frank about it. I want to be very
open and frank about this. Part of the scene on this is the bombing of the Orange
Bowl.
Mrs. Gordon: What?
Mayor That's right. The plot is that they end up bombing the Orange Bowl...
Mr. Rosen: No, that's not quite true.
Mayor Ferre: Tell me what it is.
Mr. Rosen: Alright, our plot deals with an Israeli intelligence officer who
together with American Authorities, CIA, FBI and the local authorities are attempt
ir:cy to track down a Palestinian terrorist group who have a plot to bomb the Orange
Bowl -• chey don't bomb the Orange Bowl. I don't want to giveaway the end of the
movie but they don't bomb the Orange Bowl.
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you what the problem with that is. The problem with
that is, and I'm not telling you or I"wouldn't have asked you to come here and
explain it .f I was violently opposed to this but I want to tell something.
I want to relate to you a story of two kids in Coconut Grove. Now we had a real
tough time and I felt very sorry for these kids even though it was a hideous crime.
They took a can of gasoline and set fire to an old man who was sleeping (he was a
drunk). Now when they were taken down to the police station and questianed, you
know waht they said? They said, "We just saw it on television last night," That's
where they got the idea, Now I'm saying everybody watches the television tube
and just because Mannix goes around hitting everybody or Cannon does all kinds of
crazy things or Ironsides or whathave you that that's what society does. But it
has a strong parallel, Now we happen to get when the moon is full and the peak
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OE the sr son we get IS bomb treats in one day in the Orange ttwl. That's
average. We've got. all kinds of doge that email dynamite powder. We spend
untold thousands of dollars (the ehief Can tall your he's back there) trying
to detect what Le going on. NOW all you need is a little picture like this
to ecite the imagination of ebbe people and we'tie got major problems.
Mr. sen! Well, let me try to agaif, answer that. The last film that t was
;personally involved with with the director was trench, Corms&tton TT and a year
ago almost to the day I was standing in front of a grt3up of people in Marseilles,
Prance and they were very concerned about how we were going to deal with the drtfge
in the picture for the same reason. At this point we can show you virtually
hundreds of letters from every law enforcement agency adrOes the counter naiad.
ing the people of Marseilles from senators in Washington saying that they wish
every child could see french Connection It because of the way we dealt with it.
When we were offered this movie, hl k Sunday four montte ago until we came lip
with a concept where we could say honestly to ourselves that we were going to
deal with this problem and it was going to be a deterrent to these senseless
acts we did not commit to the project (I'm speaking now for thyself and John
?rankenheisner.). I will use an analogy, t hope it is true in this case. When
we came up with the idea that these terrorists were the same thing to our movie
as the shark was to jaws, and as you know sharks aren't too popular these days
with this picture coming out, that's when we decided that we had a way Of doing
this picture where it would not give anybody any ideas.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you this, I see all the Clint tastwood pictures and t
love James Bond so I must be one of these guys who psychologically is hooked on
violence and terrorism because this type of thing fascinates me. And I think I'm
just the average American. And what really concerns me is that we come out with
a scene in a movie showing how to blow up the Orange Bowl or something like that
and have some cook ga out there and try to do it the next week.
Mr. Rosen: Well, Iwould think there might be more validity to what you're saying,
Mr. Maycr, if indeed they blew up the Orange Bowl but they don't - they're stopped
and they are blown up themselves (I did tell you the ending). Good wins over evil.
Mayor Ferret The good guys win? You're sure of that now?
Mr. Rosen:
Positive.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what is the will of the commission?
Mrs. Gordon: My personal feelings are that there could be some repercussions
with regard to the plot but on the other hand if we're going to add some basis
to the economy we have to think along those lines too. I don't know. I guess
we ought to throw this one on the Manager too. No?
Mayor Ferret No, I think this is a policy matter, not the Manager.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, it's a policy matter except I don't think that we know enough
about some of the other conditions. Mr. Manager, have you had conversations with
the i)cl;.z�:.: and/or other interested parties?
Mayor. Ferree Let me interrupt and say I think in my opinion, and I just respect-
fully submit this to you, that we ought to in principle either accept or reject
the concept in principle and then if in principle it is - if it's not acceptable
then that's the end of it. But if in principle it is then let the Manager come
back and tell us why we shouldn't do it.
Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, are you concerned that someone might a crazy idea and want
to bomb the Orange Bowl?
Mayor Ferre; Yes, that's exactly what I'm sorried about and that's exactly what
the Manager is going to tell you and I beat him to the punch because what I really
would like '- l; is to investigate this a little bit further rather than just say
nc today. My opinion is that I think this means money to the citizens of Miami and
I think we ought to try to look into it and go into it with a positive attitude.
But that requires the position, the posture of this commission. We set the policy.
Mrs. Gordon; Well, I don't want to say no to a venture that's going to bring
(how many millio s of dollars here?).
Mr, Rosen; Three to four trillion dollars.
Mrs, Gordon; You knQW with conditions like they are today and jobs so scarce, if we
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can put soft people to utrk t think wo hat to think along those linos.
Mr. Rosen: There are days, literally days where we will have as many as t3.607
extras in the Orange bowl.
Mrs. dordont If God forbid somebody had a kooky idea like bombing the Orange
Bowl and they did it. Chief Hickman is here, have you any (Nelms about it if
we moved on this, Chief/ t'd like to hear you at the microphone Where I can hear
you.
Mr. P&OStobo we have a deadline?
Mayor ?erre: Hee much time do we have to give you an answer?
Mr Rosen: You haVe very little title, a week.
Mrs. Gordon: We don't meet again, though, Maurice.
Mayor Vette: That'A why we want to pass this in principle.
Mr. Rosen: May I say two other things/ One the book eXistS. WS a best selling
book, It's about to come out in paper back and anybody that Might get ideas,
some-
thirig like this they have it in the book. Secondly, nobody is planting a bomb;
they're delivering this bomb in a blimp and it is a very 'Metes Bond kind of out-
landish approach to this.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, I just want... Look, Phil is all upset back there. It has to
be discussed. We can't go into this and the Manager has been telling you this and
I wart to make cure that this is all brought out before we vote on it because we
can't keep there things. Now as far as... I'm for it. I think it is worth taking
the risk cf studying this and doing it if possible. But 1 didn't want anybody to
say that we didn't have a full diSCUSSiOh on it - no secret deals.
Mrs. Gordon:.What did you say Chief? I saw your head go one way or the other,
T don't know which way. Ok, Mr. Manager, what is your opinion?
Mr. Andrew: Well, I have to begin with I'd leave an open mind since I heven't
seen the xeript or anything. I would have a negative attitude because of my knowl-
edge of what we have to go through (and I'm not going to describe to the public
what we have to go through but involves sometimes significant number of fire and
policemen in some of the things that we have to do as the result of the calls that
we receive). There is a risk factor here that someone may get some idea to do
this and you never know. But I say that is a risk but the City Manager got burned
once and learned a lesson when there was a movie here with Anthony Quinn in which
I had no one in the city read the script of that movie and when the movie was fin-
ished It e.bsolutely made the City of Miami Police Department look like idiots because
our automcbiles were used and some of our policemen were involved as extras and so -
forth and it was a ridiculous thing to have happen to the city who spends so much
money on publicity in attracting tourism to our community. So the Publicity Depart-
ment reviews these scripts and then recommends to me and I get other staff people
involve' . --ore we come to a conclusion.
qayee Ferre: Kenny, say it because then after that we have to move along.
Sgt. Ken Harrison: I think the Manager covered my comments. I was most concerned
about how my group is going to come off looking in these movies. Too often in
these action packed movies the local police officer comes off looking like a clown
aed I for one don't appreciate it. I agree with what the Manager says, I'd like
tc have some research and somebody review the script. If the City of Miami Police
eepartment is going to look as bad as we did in some previous movies then I would
oppose it,
Mrs, Gordon: I thin) the motion ought to be then that the Manager have the opportun-
ity to look irrn the script and be able to come to a conclusion that if he finds
nothing Lnere that would be detrimental to the health, welfare and safety of
this ccmmunity that he proceed.
Mr. Reboso: X don't agree, Mr. Mayor. I don't think this is the right time in
this city for kind of plot, believe me.
Mrs. Gordon. Well, we're not moving to do it, Menai:), we're only aayinq let him
research it, You know. Maybe we don't know the plot, I didn't know the plot.
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Mayor Verret Let Ma put it to you this way, there have been US bombings ih
this town ih the last year, bowl that tell you anything./ t mean botbs, not
fire trackers.
Rev. Gibson: Mr, Mayor, thaybe we Ought to consider providing the are thief
and the Police people are intimately involved ih making that decision because
afterall those two departments are the people who. are going to have tO 166k bad
or good.
Mayor Petrel Alright, SO in other mords as 1 hear the Mtitibh is that the notion
is that the City of Miami instruct the manager to proteed Oh this provided, how -
evert that we get full tondUrrente from the Police bepattment, the Fire bepattment
and the Publicity bepattment but that it is the intent of this COffiMiMion that we
should proceed unless there is some major reason why we should hot.
Mrs. 06rdont Yes, unless it is totething detrimental to the health, welfare or
safety of this coMmunity. X think that covers the whole gamut, Maurice,
mayor Ferre: A flashing green light is what we're saying, not green, just a green
but with a proviso.
Mayor Verret Alright, Mr, Harris, and then after that we'll Close it for ditCUS.,
sion.
Ben Harris. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the City ComMiSsiOn. My name is
Ben Harris. I'm with the Department of Commerce in Tallahassee. In the 1974
session of the legislature the state saw fit to fund a motion picture and IV
program which had as its primary function the expansion of all video and film act,.
ivities in the State of Florida. I am now administrator of that program and my
function is t.c try to bring production to the State of Florida. I have been work-
ing with Mr. Rosen since he initially contacted me concerning a possible location
in the City of Miami for this movie. I would like to bring out a couple of points
concerning motion picture production in the State of Florida. Over the past six
months we have had $9,000,000 in feature productions in the State of Florida.
This brings some 2.7 million dollars into the local economy for the State of Florida.
This is very important fascet of our econ.7,7. Thee are some 5000 people employe&
in the industry in the State of Florida. I wouldcertainly ask you to carefully con-
sider this matter on this production and also to consider a couple of other points
which I think are very important. (1) This movie will be made whether it is made
in Miami, Florida or in California. The people in Miami will see this movie no
matter whether the Orange Bowl is used or the Rose Bowl is used. Officials for
the Ros. Bowl are trying their best to he this production made in California. The
Los Angeles Rams Professional Football team has contacted the producer and almost
practically begged him to come and use the Rose Bowl and their team and equipment
to shoot this movie. As far as the adverse reaction to a bomb and perhaps causing
bomb throats in the City of Miami I think that no matter where this movie is made
you're going have the same reaction. Now the three to four million dollars
that will flow directly into the local economy I think is very very important and
I would certainly ask you to please consider carefully their request. Time is
very essential; they must have an answer in the near future.
Rev. Cih6on: M. Mayor, I don't want to be negative but sir, sometimes, you know
great believer, people could get money but money can't get people. NOw I
unaerstand what you're saying and maybe the $7,000,000 or the $2,000,000 this
economy would net may not be worth the risk. What we are not saying is I think
some of us share some fear and trepidation. I'll tell you what I'm willing to
do, I'm willing to second your motion, Rose, again. I mean I'm willing to second
your motion providing, and I mean this as a clear understanding, if the Manager
atter having in depth study with the Chief of Police and the Chief of the Fire
Departmmt and the Publicity Department discover there is any doubt in their mind
about the effect of that kind of action on this city we want them to be man enough
to say no. Now they can't guarantee anything, man or woman. I just want you to
know that we understand frankly we want to do it. But you know sometimes a lot
of things we want to do may not be the wisest thing to do.
Gordon: Here is a point now though that I'm thinking, If the Manager is
already speaking in this tone of voice that he is and it's echoed by the Police
Department representatives - Kenny.- you know I'm just thinking maybe we're wast-
ing their time and maybe time is of the essence to them and maybe we'd Netter not
do this to them. unless we really thin) that we're going to go forward then we
really shouldn't hold them up, just tell them no right now,
Rev, Gibson; Rose, I would hope the Manager would not take our time, You know,
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Mayor Pare: t'm going to recognile Mr, Frankenheimer tithe wanted to say
something and then t'll radognite you and then we're going to elOse this of
We've got a long schedule, tt is SOD, we haven't even begun,
Mr, John Prankenheimen Mr. Mayor, committee, t'm the director of the film,
tt it my responsibility to put on the SCreen what everyone is going to gee.t
would also like you to consider my peat credits *11101 include as kobert Rosen
said before, !Ara SO of Alcatraz0 8everi DAYS Of gaat, highly controversial sub..
jeets which 1 think were treated quite well. Grand Prim which was about rading#
Prenth Connection It whieh is a very violent anti -violent drug teene where it
could have been an exploitation i2.nt t have he intention of making anything
that is an exploitation film,
Mayor Fetre: Ok. I'll tell you I... t firmly believe that we should do this.
Mr. Frankenheimer: One other thing, Mr. Mayor, t just want to say this that t've
listened to people say (the representative from the Police Department and so forth
and so on)sayinc that he was worried about the way his police force would Cote off)
we have no intention of making the Miami Police Force lOok anything but the efflto.
ient force that we feel that they are and they operate Very effieiently in this
film. The Fire Department has absolutely nothing to do with this film. The other
thing is that I've heard people talk about bomb threats and so forth and so on and
Mr. Rosen said the Arab terrorist group involved does not succeed and what they
use as a weapon is a blimp. I don't mean to be fascetious but hardly think that
this is ,AJTething the average person could get their hands on.
Mayor ?erre! I'm not going to argue with you about that one.
Mr. Frankenheimer: It's a question of the fact that we're not trying to panic
the public in any way. We're trying to make a very honest filth about something
that coold conceivably happen that is thwarted. I just want to repeat myself
and then I will step down. I have no intention of doing anything ......
Mrs. Gordon: I have a question. What if the Rose Bowl was the scene of the
filming, it woLlld say Rose Bowl, it would not say Orange Bowl? See, unless Mr.
Rcboso z and tells me he's for it then I'm not going to offer the motion
again because you know we have a unique situation and I respect his judgement too.
Mr. Frankenheimer: It is very difficult to talk to Mr. Reboso, he's on the phone.
The point is...
Mrs. Gordon: Well wait until he gets off it if you don't mind because....
Mayor Ferro: Take it easy because we need his vote.
Mr. Frwianhoimer: What I mean is that we really want to do this the best way
we possibly oan.
Mrs. Gcrdcn: 1 understand but there is a psychological factor that we're dealing
with which is an intangible almost and I want you, Manolo, to state your position
before 7 r7ake any motion again.
Mayor Ferra: Alright, no, we don't need anymore talking. We're through talking.
Now here is what we're gong to do. Now Rose, you want to make that motion?
Mrs. Gordon: I want to hear from Manolo. Ok? His position and his thinking is
very important to me.
Mr. Reboso: This in my opinion is up to the City Manager. Let the City Manager...
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but how you personally feel in your heart is important to me.
I'm not going to make the motion again unless I hear from you.
Mr. aelyloso; I don't think it is the right time for that kind of plot.
Mrs. Gordon: You don't? Then I'm not offering the motion.
Mr. Stanley Cohert; My name is Stanley Cobert, I'm a local producer here in Florida,
I think there is whole perspective that has sort of gone a kilter and I'll try very
quickly to make my point. I think all of you are being concerned on the basis of a
one paragraph synopsis not really carefully worked out or prepared in anticipation
of this to describe something that is a $7,000,000 picture and a best welling book.
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Vary few pietea of material allow themselves to be reflected that
way, /f one were ta say to you that they were going to make a film which cul.,
Minatee in a 8Cehe ih wraith a man in nailed to some wood and diee it might seund
like a terribly violent film but the film has been made, the bOok it was based
on it one that is known to everyone, So t think for all of you at this point
to have the apprehensions you have without the benefit of a little more knowledge
about the material maybe doing great damage to all of ve here in this community
who very muth need and want this film to be made here by the highest of profess..
tonal§ which we are really honored to have in our midst. The City Manager milt..
ioned a film called the Happening and he has a good metary because that film is
more than s or 9 years ago. There have been a lot of films that have been made
in the interiM, There haVe been lot Of very good reflections of this community.
There have been a lot of values that have accrued 'ft) the thousands of people
here.
Mayor Perre: Look, we Must cut off row one way or the other and I would just
like, Father, before you say sOtething, I want to ekpress my opinion. 1 am firm-
ly for this and I want tO give you sty reasons for it, (1) 1 think that this can
be controlled, Your judgement is gang to be involved in this. Paul, so we're
not just saying yes we're leaving it up to you. (2) 3. think this means millions
of dollars of employment, Thirteen thousand extras, and I'm not saying this is
just going to be Cubans or Black people or women or anything. Everybody is going
to be able to... This is money that is flowing into this communityGod knows
we reed Lt. (3) And 1 would like some kind of a committment from the director
that somewhere along the place if you're going to use the Orange Bowl you will
0= the sign that says City of MiaMi Orange Bowl and the skyline guaranteed.
x really think it is a great thing and / think that the terrorist act aspect of
it as the man, if they do it in the Rose Bowl the audiences in Miami are going to
see it anyway so if ebody i4s going to get the idea and go to kidnap the blimp
man and get a bcmb and bomb the Orange Bowl he's going to do it anyway; from the
picture he's going to get the idea. So if we're going to get the potential prob-
lems we may as well get some of the benefits.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I hope that the news will get abroad how we feel. I'm
talking about the citizens, the people who live in the City of Miami and the sUr-
reunding r:!u-A.7_ipalities so they don't get no ideas. OK? With that in mint.i and
with the understanding that the Manager along with those Chief of Police, Fire
Department, Publicity. I'm going to offer that motion because I have enough faith
in the integrity of the people of this community and they've got to love Miami.
T'ain't no other place in this United States like Miami.
Mrs. Gordon: I'll second it with the understanding that the people involved are
not misled by this motion because this motion is subject to conditions which the
Manager must explore and come to a satisfactory conclusion. So with that in mind
I'll second it.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-715
A ;OTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE REQUEST
FOR USE OF THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM FOR A MOTION PICTURE FILM
(BLACK SUNDAY) AND TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR SUCH A VEN-
TURE CONDITIONED UPON ASSURANCE BEING PROVIDED THAT SUCH ACT-
IVITY WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND SAFE-
TY OF THE COMMUNITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES; None,
ABSENT; Commissioner J, L. Plummer, Jr.
ON ROLL CALL;
mr. Reboso; well, it is going to be up to the Manager and I hope the Chief
of Police is also involved in this. So 1 vote yes.
Mayor Ferre; That's part of the motion and the Fire Department and Publicity,
Now Paul, I want you to hear this now. The Rolling Stones, we tried to get the
Rolling Stones here. I'm not blaming you, I'm not blaming cliff or Andy or any.
JUL 31 1975
body else. The fact is that the City of Jacksonville has made $2S0,000 Oh
that deal, That truld hve been a lot of money to pay for a lot of oovef on
the orange Bowl. We didn't do it, I'm sure there were good rtaaona, l don't
uueatLoh that. I hope this opportunity we don't friiSa and t hop that it is
the co isenaus of this rotmtsaion is to go forward with this provided all the
safeguards are met. 6k/ Thank you very much and t hope you understand that
we have to be ,very careful and we have to go through this prooeae. It doesn't
mean in anyway our ill will. it is Nat ah abundance of precaution and we
can i t talk publioally about a lot -of the things that we happen ter know out
there ate some good reaeons for this precautions.
`JUL 311975
22i ptRSONL: APPEARANCE
J-APME S r t C KHAPT
JUL 3 1 1975
ENFORCEMENT OF C!TY ORDINANCE FOR oCCLlPATIONAL
L.UCENSES FOR:
WASTE AND TRASH COMPANIES
The Commission took up for consideration a scheduled personal
appearance by Mr. ,lames P. Eckhart with reference to enforcement
of tie City of Miami's ordirianwos on occupational licansc for
waste and trash companies, and the following discussion occurred:
Mr. Eckhart: (Reading from prepared statement) It is not
my practice to ai:pear before this mmiss on when it is possible
to obtain effective results dealing with staff. The situation
which I bring t.o your attention today I have been working with
the staff on for over eleven months without any effective relief.
All offices have been cooperative, but no results have been ob-
tained. The problem relates to the enforcement of Ordinance, a
Tart of your City Code, 20-19 and following sections dealing with
the obtaining of licenses by those engaged in picking up waste
and trash in the City of Miami. I am speaking for several com-
panies that are engaged in this business which religiously cam•-
Ely with the terms of the ordinance and the other administr.a
i,-a -aquiremonts, and lose bud inr:�—, to the operations o '
people who continuously operate without obtaining licenses or
complying with the ordinances of the City. At least two companies
are presently without licenses and operating without interference
by anyone. The Police Chief's office suggests that Licensing is
responsible. Licensing looks to the City Manager for direction.
Particularly, and I wish to bring to the attention of the Com-
mission that one company, Central Hauling Systems, also operating
under the name of Garbologists, has not had a license from the
City of Miami for a period of two years. For the year 1973-74
no license was issued ---
mayor. Ferro: Jim, can we cut through all this. What's
your problem with us?
Mr. P. W. Andrews, City manager: Well, our problem is in
a:'tualaprrehension, and T have already made arrangements for
one of our inspectors to ride these night hours with the Police
Department, with the Police Officer, in the hope that we can
actually apprehend them doing this in the process. When we do,
then we will start ---
Mr. Eckhart: Action has been started. The City Attorney's
office filed an injunction several months back, and it was not
prosecuted because the City Manager's office said, if this man
makes an application for a license and is granted a license the
litigaalon becomes moot. At that time the man had a deposit
down for the license for this year; refused to pay the deposit
for last year, and when the funds were ultimately placed with
Mr. Caplinger, the head of this department, and the City Manager
was attempting to process this license the man went down and
withdrew the funds from Mr. Caplinger's office, Now everyone
knows -your City Attorney knows that the man is operating with-
out a license, He went into Court and made those contentions
in open court, At the same time your City Attorney is al1ow.ng
JUL..,1975
the Licensing Department to return this man's money to him
when he continues to operate every day. Not only is he oper-
ating without a license* but he is operating to the detriment
of the other people who are complying with your law. The
action that I am requesting of the Commission this date is to
instruct the City Attorney to immediately proceed with the
legal action to obtain a temporary injunction against the
operation by this companyb and then get a permanent injunc-
tiOn on ths grounds that this man has deliberately and will-
fully failed to comply or to cooperate with the City depart-
ments. And further, if the man does make applicatiOnbased
on his record.: based on his failure to oOperate with the
City over the years, that he be denied the right to conduct
business in the City of Miami. 1 further request that the
Police Chief. or the City Attorney's office, check the Federal
District Court for the felony which this man lus been convicted
of. He served time in a Federal Pennitentiary. There are
other charges which the Police Chief can check in the Criminal
Court in Dade County here, and 1 suggest that when all of this
information is placed before you by your own staff, and.not
one that has possibly an interest here, that you will conclude
in your discretion that this man should not be able to continue
doing business in the City of Miami.
Mrs. Gordon: You say he is operating without a license?
Mr. Eckhart: Operating for two years without a license.
Mrs. Gordon: And he operates under a company name, or
what?
Mr. Eckhart: He operates under two fictitous names.
Mrs. Gordon: And never got a license?
Mr. Eckhart: Never had a license. He makes application
for the license. There are three or four requirements within
your cmde. One is to submit his vehicles to inspection by Mr:
Ru'.u. of the Sanitation Department. That is not done. There is
no vdme within which that is to be done.
Mx. Andrews: MX. Mayor and members of the Commission, I
want to assure you that we will check these facts for ourselves,
and assuming that they are correct, but just to be absolutely
correct 1 wililive directions to the Chief. who will have our
Police Force be alerted to this, and if they are in business
operating this way, we will make the necessary arrests.
Mr. Eckhart: That's only part of it. You can make an
arrest and the man can go down and pay a fine, We are talking
about a hundred and twenty-five dollars a year for a license,
and the amount of time that has been expended by the City
Manager's office, the City Attorney's office, the licensing and
the 5anitation, and my own office, it would run into thousands
upon thousands of dollars over the last eleven months,
Mrs. Gordon; Who do you represent? Do you represent
another company?
Mr, Eckhart; represent several companies in the same
business who are losing their accounts to this company, who
have complied with your ordinappfs and your requirements.
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Reverend Gibson; Mr. Mayor, it would appear to me that
it is a very simple ratter to say to the man. you carry out
the ordinance, or eiae. I think that's fair; that the people
who pay their tapes or pay their fees ought to be protected.
They ought to live up to the law) and 1 don't think we ought
to just say to the man, we want to arrest you; we want the man
to comply, totally: comply with the law or else; and the else
is his, not ours.
Mr. Eekhart: Father Gibson., this is an area where the
Commission actually has to approve the incense.
Reverend Gibson: Well, we don't have it.
John Lloyd, City Attorney: May I make a suggestion.
z suggest that we go ahead and attempt law enforcement by the
Police Department, to arrest any of these persons that are
apprehended within the City of Miami picking up garbage with-
out a license. as 1 understand it, the procedure could be to
notify the Police Department that the X company does not have
a license. Now Now this is actually ---it's not a financial or reve-
nue producing license. This is a policing license. Now, then,
in the event that the thing continues and we are unsuccessful
in getting them to do that, I suggest maybe we try this for
two weeks or thirty days, or something of that nature, and
then, in the event that does not prove successful, that we can
again file for an injunction to prevent them from doing it on
the basis that we have done before on occasion; that our legal
remedy of arrest is not adequate. I think that we have to try
the legal remedy first. Don't you agree, Jim?
Mr. Eckhart: Well, of course the Police Department said
that it actually wasn't their responsibility, and that's why
Mr. Knox of your office concluded that an injunction action
should be filed, which in fact was filed, but it has been lying
dormant for several months.
Mayor Ferre: What is it you want us to do right now?
Mr. Eckhart I want you to instruct your City Attorney
4.o proceed with the injunction suit and to get this man's trucks
off the street.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have any objections to that?
Mr. Lloyd; No.
Does anybody have any objections to that?
Mr. Eckhart: And that the background of this man be
checked relative to any application he makes, so that this
Ccrnmi _•f,ion, in their discretion --and it is within their dis-
cretion to either grant or withhold a license ---that you have
all of this information at the time this application comes
before you,
Mayor Ferre: Is their a motion?
Reverend Gibson; I move,
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Mayor perre: All right, rather Gibson moves. Rase,
you want to second it 'Io instruct the City Attorney tO
proceed.
Mrs. Gordon: Certainly, if anyone is operating illegally
certainly we v ant to stop them.
Mayor Ferret All right, there is a second to the motion.
Is their further discussion on the tion if not, call the
ro l i .
Thereupon the followinig motion was adopted unanimously,
and was designated Motion too. 75 -716,
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO IMMEDIATELY
PROCEED WITH INJUNCTION PROCEEDINGS To STOP OPERATION
OP A PRIVATE WASTE HAULER IN THE CITY Or MIAMI WITHOUT
A LICENSE
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JUL 311975
QUALITY OP FOOD AT CITY MINED BUILDINGS LEASED
23. DISCUSSION ITEM AS CONCESSIONS TO RESTAURANT OPERATORS
Mayor i~'erre: 1 TwIt to tank step. Jim ►batt, but wAlie yeu are '+ere, 1
Want to tell you that your client,- hope you are still representing gpeeiaity
Restaurants from California, --,--
Mr. tkhart: Yes, sir, -----
Mayor Perre: t want you to send them a letter, and I would like a +ropy of it,
so that I will go on record telling you, telling then, that their food is really getting
bal. The service has never been exceptional, but you happen to have the most privileged
location in Dade County and I think it is a crying shame, —that place Ought to be the
number food location..
Mr. Ekhart: 1'11 be very happy to do that Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferret I am talking about the Rusty Pelican,----_
Mr. Ekhart: I know who you are talking about.
Mayor Ferre: I know who he represents. The Rusty Pelican does not have the
kind of quality fond it ought to have. I see a lot of people going like this,(indicating)
see, look around, a lot of people agree,---18 people agree,----
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor let me say this, they may be bad, but I think we have another
one even worse.
Mayor Ferre: Amen to that,
Rev. Gibson: Amen, I agree, and let me asy by contrast, I want to tell you, Rusty
Pelicanis better than that other one that I am talking about, I am not going to call
tho. name.
Mayor Ferre: Would you please write a letter, expressing the opinion so they
caul improve a little bit.
JUL 3119/5
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
24, AWARD BID CLEANING SERVICES FoR: gsEBALSL.TRniuM INCLUDES
DISCUSSION
Mayor Ferre: We are on Item 45 .
Mr. Androt;s: Mr. Mayor would you like us to explain this, I am making a recommendation
that we awa=-d this to the bidder who submitted not the lowest bid, and I would like
Mr. :.cna wgs to explain.
Mayor Ferre: Are you the lowest bidder? Why don't you step up here and identify
who each one of you are.
Mr. Averback: My name is Mr. Averback of Biscayne Janitorial Service.
Mr. Rene Fanton: My name is Rene Fanton with Property Management& Maintenance.
Mayor Ferre: They are separate companies, right? Mr. Manager why don't you explain
whit you want to do and why.
Mr. Andrews (.o ahead Mr.. Jennings and explain the difference between the two
bids.
Mr. Jennings; Mr, Mayor and Commissioners, what this becomes in essence is a
matter of. judgement, The bid specifications specified that final decision could be
made on the basis of financial bids submitted also on the basis of experiencc and
on the basis of professional reputation ofthe bidders. The financial difference,
the difference in bids, in my estimation, is rather insignificant, It awountF to
about $5,00°. per season or about 80 dollars per game, This in my opinion if. outweighed
by the experience factor, in my particular recommendation to the City Manager, I feat
tt+e firm of Property Management and Maintenance had substantially more experience than
any of the other bidders in this case, There was a bidders in all, 4 of whom could
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be eliminated on the basis of experience 0—either experience or financial portion
of their bid, I am recommending property Management and Maintenance Inc.
Mayor Terre: You Were not technically the low bidder but you think they are
the tb st qualified to do it, and meets the circumstances.
Pk. Jennings: Yes, sir, and particularly in view of the fact that this is a
very 1mpottant year at the Orange Bowl, we have the Super Bowls
Mayot Ferre: In the totality of the contract, which is a one year contract
it, ----what is the difference in total cost,
Mr. Jennings: The total cost per year between these two bids toas about
$5,000. or about 80 dollars per game.
Mayor Ferre: We are going to end up paying $5,000. more but you justify it
because you think we will be getting that much better service.
Mr. Jennings: Yes, Sit, --
Mayor Ferre:Now we will hear from the individuals involved.
Unidentified person: Mr. Mayor as far as the $5,000. figure, I don't believe
that is true because the higher figure that they have in there ranging from 60 to
80 thousand dollars alone, ----
Mayor Ferre: For the record, your name and company,
Mr, Av4r"zck:--Biscayne Janitorial Service, Mr. Averhack. The last 4 figures
r.ir►ging ircm b0 to 60 thousand dollars crowd, there is a difference in the price
of anywhere from 350 to 500 dollars per game. That in inself alone is an excess
of $5,000. just on the Miami Dolphin ball game, not to count in the University
of Miami or etc. I would say the figures would probably run in the area of
10 to 15 thousand.
Mr. Rene Fanton: My name is Rene Fanton, Property Management and Maintenance,
we also hid on the other two stadiums, Miami Marine Stadium and the Miami Baseball
Stadium, we are the lowest bidders on those two stadiums. I have not computed the
$5,000. or anything like that, but maybe figuring those two stadiums, we are within
$5,000. like Mr. Jennings said. I have say also we have done the Orange Bowl previously
--evidently our services were satisfactory.
Rev. Gibson: You have the experience, you say.
Mr. .Te,.air;b : Yes, they do the Orange Bowl, the Baseball Stadium and 'believe
r.le% j".. Lauderdale.
Mayor Ferre: You are recommending them.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboot', who
roved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-717
A. RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM PROPERTY MANAGEMENT
AND MAINTENANCE, INC. FOR CLEANING THREE (3) CITY OF MIAMI STADIUM
FACILITIES, NAMELY ORANGE BOWL STADIUM, MIAMI MARINE STADIUM AND MIAMI
i:A`.'E BALr. STADIUM, AT A COST TO BE DETERMINED ON THE SIZE OF THE CROWD;
MID AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH SAID FIRM, ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE PUBLIC FACILITIES 1974-75
BUDGET FOR THIS PURPOSE
98
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and ran file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution vab
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Hatolo teboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Terre. NOBS: None,
Absent: Vice -manor Plummer
JUL 311975
AWARD BID - ORANGE BOWL WATER. MAIN IMPROVEMENTS 1975
DISCUSSION INCLUDED AND APPROPRIATING NECESSARY FUNDS
Mr. Julio : My name is Julio ? and 1 represent J. & i Engineering.
W:a came in second low bidder iit,this job and we believe that the first low bidder didn't
have a bid bond as required by the specifications of this job.
Mayor Ferre: Is that right Paul?
Mr. Andrews: I. believe that is correct. I am waiting for Mr. Hayes to finish
there. These bids were just turned over to us.
Mr. Grimm: I think I can answer that for you Mr. Mayor. What he says is true,
however that it is an irregularity in the bid that you can waive, but I might explain
that it is kind of an honest error in this sense. This is the second bidding of this
contract. When the bidder bid the contract the first time, he submitted to the City
certlfiee check. When the bids were rejected, they were returned automatically by
t:uu finance dcpactment and he didn't know it. The hid bond is really only for one purpose,
and that is to guarantee to the city the man is willing to provide the service for
the amount he says.
Mayor Ferre: I understand, how about the difference between one bid and the
other one.
Mr. Grimm: The difference between the bids is the difference between 38,000
and almost 55,000.
Mayor F,rre: His bid is 55,000, the other one is 38,000. What is your advice.
Mr. Andrews: I recommend you waive the irregularity although I don't consider
it an irregularity, and award it to this contractor for the 38,116.00.
Mayor F=rre: Who was this contractor, Minority Systems? Are they here?
person: No, sir, Mr. Earl Carroll is the director of the
Minority Contractors Association of Dade County and Mr. Jack Horne is deputy director
a': Lhe association also. I asked them to come with me today so they could help me explain
you why we suggest that the contract be awarded to J. & J. Engineering,
Mayor Ferre: Even though of course what you are telling us to do is to pay
an acids.:. iona? 12,000 dollars, which is a 30% increase over the low bid.
Unidentified person: Yes, we are asking you to do that because it would be in
the best interest of the City.
Mayor Ferre:Why?
Unidentified person: The cost of'doing this job is well over $40,000. and I don't
think that Minority Systems can do this job
to do.
for $38,000, they claim that they are going
Mr, Andrews: Mr. Maor and members of the Comumission,-----
Unidentified person; ---and also the specifications very clearly asked for a
bid bond and they did not provide a bid bond.
Mayor Ferre: Far . , is this Minorities System Inc, one of your, - -do they belong
to your operation?
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Mr. Hari Carroll: Yes, both of these then are membera of the aaaociatioo.
Mayor Ferret 1 at talking about the one who is low bidder, Minority Systems
Mr. Carroll: The low bidder is a member also.
Mayor -Ferre: You aren't taking any sides on this?
Mr. Carroll: We know and the city knows that that $38,000. figure is out of
whack, and normally what you do is kick these things out, and you will be on safe
grounds with this man. It is budgeted at $45,000. Rose, by the City, and there was
some miscalculations in the pipe and this Mat is right on tab. He is presently doing
the building at 27th Avenue and S.W. 8th Street, he is second low bidder.
Mayor Ferre: He bid $55,000. okay ,---Minority Systems bid $38,000.-----that
is a $12,000. difference.
Mr. Carroll: We worked with him on his bid, --we did not work with the other
irr. victual on, -----we are certifying this figure , Our estimators worked on this
figure.
Mayor Ferre: Earl, you served on the commission and you know how these things
work. We have co be careful, ----right on the legal of this thing.
Mr. Carroll: There is no opposition from the low bidder. There was a miscalculation
and according to law you know and I know Maurice that this man deserved the bid. He
lost one 1.ke this by the way, before the Dade County School Board, because he didn't
have a bond.
Mayor Ferre: My position on most of these things unless somebody talks me out
of thF.m ir to follow the Manager's recommendation.
Mr. Andrews: This is the second time this project has been bid. The first time
it was bid, the Minority Systems Inc. submitted a bid of $39,000. and some dollars
bat because they couldn't get a performance bond, we rejected all the bids because
this was ai.so a minority contractor, worked with, and Imet Mr. Carroll and discussed
this, aid other matters relating to minority contractors, and he was aware that we had
put this back out for bid just to assit the Minority contractors. We have eliminated the
performance bond so that the city does not have to make any payment until after the
work is completed, and I recommend that we go ahead and award this and if there is a
problem wirh °,nn . signing a contract on this particular project for the difference
of going to ”5,O30. I recommend that we reject the bids the second time and go back
out for bidding.
Mr. Carroll: Mr. Mayor may I say one thing, let's look at the tabulation of all
of these bids, let's first be honest with ourselves. The low bidder is $38,000. the
second low t.ictuor came in at $54,000. the 3rd bidder came in at $66,000. the next
biddev tip as high as $78,000, the 4th bidder, you are going up to $100,000.
---•ei:< you knoand I know, it is not fair to run a man into bankruptcy or. default.
c,re not going this route, and we are not going to recommend it even though it might
I;e a member. We are recommending the right figure. We know this take -off, I can certify
this take -off figure and I am asking you at this time not to with the figure that is
possibly 30% below, at least 20% below the budgeted price, This is the honest and
true L,.d, and he lost one like this before the School Board because he did not have•a
bend ------he was low bidder, and today he is rightfully deserving of this contract.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission,
Mayor Ferre: We cannot get in the middle of whether or not the guy who bid
$39,000. was right or wrong, That is his problem, when he bids a job and that is
your 'rob}etnt. If you think the guy cannot perform and not do, and shouldn't 4o it,
and it Is not a fair price, then you have to say so, then we go like we just did.
Why was it we just took the second bidder a moment ago.
Mr. Andrews: ---his performance, prior performance,
Mayor Ferre; Do you think this minority outfit can perform properly?
You have checked it out?
Mr. Andrews; I have no reason to doubt that they Can't, The city has every
guarantee, particularly in this one, we hove eliminated a performance bond, the
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contractor is not going 0 be paid until he finiehed all the work and new we want
te encourage the minority contractors to de work for the City, let'e go ahead With
this. Here is a contrattiftg fire that says they are going to do the work.
Unidentified persor t was present at the teetibg, a beirf meeting where the
City Manager, Mr, Hayes and you Were there, with myself and Mr. Carroll, we were
discuesing possibilities of getting Minority contractors involved in the work of
the City . We stand for standards and we do not wish to see, we dealt with PHA
projects where they put minority contractors in bags, -with very badly budgeted
and under-bidded work ar,,1 we do not want to see, and I personally think that the
City may be coming back and telling us before we can develop a viable program, kicking
this in our face, That is not the game. The game is to stand for standards. That job,
-Mr. Harris said, the hard cost of construction on that job is about you have have an additional $5,000. require in there, -----do you mean to tell me oft that
job that a comapty that bid $33,000. they did not have a cashier' check, you may
have the right to waive irregularities, but that is irrespotaibility, that is not
irregularities.
Mr. Carroll; Our association stands behind those figures,-
Mayoi Ferte: What is the will of thiecommission.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor out of fairness, I think that if the Manager has to understand
and T am sure he doea, this is why he is taking the position he is taking, that we expect
this work to be done, and ].et me make sure Mr. Manager, you have us, the city protected.
Aii•-aoako
Mr. Ardrews:,Yes, sir, ---
Pe. Gibson: if there is a difference of $38,000. against $55,000. I am going
tv S36,000.--yre said it is right, you said it can he done for that, --that is your
beziness. Ausr make sure we want a finished product. is that right?
Mr Andrews: That is right, and while the Mayor is on the phone, Father, I want
the City Attorney to explain a position, if you chose not to award this contract what
you would have to do.
M. Lloyd: The other alternative would be to reject all bids and begin another
ae,vertising and ;accept bids over again, --call for bids again. This is the lowest
responsive bid.
Mr. Grimue I would like to correct the record for you benefit, our estimate
iF not $45,0J0. but $35,000.
Rev. Gibson: Well, that is even worse. We, the City estimates $35,000. they
bid $38,0OO. somebody else bid $55,000.----I move the Manager's recommendation.
(,arroll: Father where is Mr. Harris?
Rev. Gibson; Earl we can't debate today.
Mr. Carro11:1 was told by Mr. Harris what the figure was, $45,000.
Rev Gibson: You heard what Mr. Grimm said. The
----one thine T have learned since I have been here,
to it, and you don't hedge at all. You just cut off,
eo offer ti'e motion to go with the Manager, because
the place out there, Dayshore Drive, that is a credit
only thing I have to say Mr. Grimm
I have always found you to be right
even if it is my head, and 1 am going
I want a finished project. You see
to all of us.
Mayor There is a motion, is there a second?
Unidentified person: I would like to comment,
Mayor Ferre: I will not recognize you, that is not the way we run meeting abound here,
18 there a second to the motion?
Mr. Reboso: 1 second the motion,
Mayor Ferre; Now I recognize you for discussion purposes, Don't start telling
aw how to run this meeting.
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Jp
Mr Julio t Sorry,
a bid bond. tie, the second low bidder,
for, and the first low bidder did not,
awarded to the 2nd low bidder.
sir, the apecifications clearly ask for
provided what the apeeificatione call
AO technically the contract should be
Bev. Gibson: But isn't it true that the director just said earlier, that when
you originally bidding, that everybody put up the check and inadvertently, --hut
isn't it true, that if you were able to perforta, if he gave the aaaurattte, and if
we made the error, so what do you want us to do?
Mr. Julia...,
is a whole new ballgame.
happened the first time,
with the specifications,
tf, the first time those bids were rejected, the second time
You have to comply with the specifications, not batter what
and the second time, the second bidding they did not comply
and we did.
Mayor Ferre: But the Manager happens to disagree with that.
Mrs. Gordon: They did or did not comply with the specifications?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, they complied with specifications with the one area, that
we described to you, and that was in the bid bond. If we had not sent the eheck back
to them, they would have felt the check was on deposit, and that is what they thought
occured when they submitted the bid the second time, because it was rejected the first
time. They still thought their check was on deposit.
Mrs. Gordon: That is not the point. The specifications for the bid, did they
or did they not meet' those specificatons?
Mr. Andrews: As far as the specifications for the work and everything, yes,
--the procedures, because the city returned the check is the only area that is
d_fferent.
Mrs. Gordon: Is that what you are referring to?
Mr. Julio ? Yes, I am saying that the check was for the first bidding,
not for the second bidding, so they didn't provide the new check for the second
bidding.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews is saying that he accepts that responsibility as
au error of the City, and not of the bidder.
Mayor Ferre: I am going to tell you as Mayor of the City of Miami, and I
am going to call for a vote in a moment, I am going to make a flat statement,
that I would not be a party to voting for this City to spend another 12 thousand
dollars when there is a low bid on record, which the management is recommending,
I am not going against the Manager's recommendation, and I am not going to spend
12 thousand dollars more, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is a simple
tech•::Lc: 1ity and if you want to go to court, that is your right. I call for the
vote,
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 75-718
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 29, 1975 OF MINORITY
SYSTEMS INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $38,116. FOR THE ORANGE BOWL -WATER
MAIN IMPROVEMENTS-1975 (2ND BIDDING); AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM; FUNDS
ALLOCATED FOR THIS PURPOSE FROM THE ORANGE BOWL FUND BALANCE
l N d
JUL 3 ...197
(Mere follows body of resolution, omitted here attd
on file in the Off ice of the City trier))
Upon being seconded by Commissioner REboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Mts. Obtdon, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ASSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer
Mr. Lloyd:Mr. Mayor, you passed a resolution accepting that
Mayor Terre: Read the otdinance,m,--
Mr. Lloyd thereupon read the ordinance by title only.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMLRGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE NO.
8316 ADOPTED OCTOBER 10, 1974 TO PROVIDE FOR THE ADDITIONAL
APPROPRIATION OF $3,216.00 FROM THE ORANGE BOWL FUND BALANCE
TO COVER THE COST OP THE ORANGE BOWL - WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS-
1975 (2N!) BIDDING) AS FOLLOWS: CONTRACT COST $2,871.00; PROJECT EXPENSE
$287.10; INCIDENTAL EXPENSES INCLUDING ADVERTISING, TESTING AND RE-
PRODUCTION SERVICES $57.90; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH; PROVIDING SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded -by Commissioner
Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None. Absent: Vice -Mayor Plummer
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and
seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
;ouumissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NoES: None Absent; Vice Mayor Plummer
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8430
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and announced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
JUL 31 1975
26$ AWARD BID - CITY HALL AIR CONDITIONING IMPROVEMENTS PHASE 11-1975
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who
moved its adoption:
ESOLUTION NO. 75-719
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DIP OF SOLO AIR CONDITIONING
IEATING CO. INC, IN AMOUNT OF S12,885, FOR CITY HALL
AIR CONDITIONING IMPROVEMENTS JP 8 II)- 1975; AND
AUTHORIZING FCUTION OF fONT
10j JUL 311915
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file itt the Office of the City Clerk)
Upon being seconded by CottttiasionerReboso , the resolution WAS
passed and adopted by the following vote.
A'BS: Mr. keboso, Mrs Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Perm
HOES: None
A}3S1": Vice -Mayor Plummer.
Mayor Ferre: 1 hope this is our last expenses on air conditioning, and all
that.
JUL 31 1975
27 AWARD BID - BICENTENNIAL PARK -PHASE 11 PROJ,3 UTILITIES AND SITE BEV
DISCUSSION AND JECTION_ OP,_ALL_BIDS
Mayor Fcr.e: Letts take up Item C which is Bicentennial Park Phase II.
I assume that is what Mr. Stone is here on.
Mr. Andrews: Yes, we reveived two bids and 1 would like Mr. Stone
to come forward and explain the bids and then,
Mayor Ferre: Who are here on this item, would you raise your hands?
1 saw Mr. M.R. Harrison and Rod Overholt before, they are on the other item?
Rev. Gibson: Which item was that?
Mayor Ferre: That is on Item D, we are now on Item C,--the trees and grass?
Mr. Andrews: A11 the amenities that go into the park, this is the last two
contracts to be principally let for all the work.
Mrs. Gordon: Do they include the sensory park?
Mr. Stone: Yes,--
Mayor Ferre: What do you recommend?
Mr. Stone: Regrettably Mr. Mayor we are over budget, when I spoke with
the Commission last week, the first two bids had been several hundred thousand
dollars under budget, unfortunately we are now with seawalls and including
cash allowances we are $345,000. over budget.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, $345,000. on this item?
Mr. Stone: On total,
Mayor Ferre: That is not so bad, I thought you were going to be a lot
more than that. You are only $345,000. over on how bid a job?
Mr. Stone; 4.2 million budget, sir,
Mayor Ferre: The budget was 4.2 and you are how much over?
Mr. Stone: $4,534,813.81-included in that total is our cas allowance
of $224,000.
Mayor Ferre; What you did is you cut out the extras?
Mr, Stone: Deduct alternates have been accepted, yes, Mr. Mayor,
Mayor Ferre; The deduct alternates, what does that take out? In other
words you are going to get a stripped down price?
Mr, Stone; No, sir, These have all been reviewed with the City Parks and
Recreation, the deduct alternates in contract 3 were substitution of asphaltic
concrete for 4 material called deletion of some path lights, the
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high task system, ---
Mayor Terre: The what system?
Mr. Stone: ---the high mask, the over-all illumination system, there vas
deletion of tile finishes in the labratory, it the 4th Contract, we deleted
some sod and sprigging instead, we ate going to 6 to 8 inch ground cover
spacing vs, 12 inch and reducing some tree heights, and these have been
reviewed with Parks and Recreation attd are acceptable to them.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Stone, at this point In time, is the detailing on
that sensory park, all we saw was a picture taken out of some book which
really didn't show the what that kind of a park was really going to be.
Mr. Stone: It is in progress Mrs. Gordon, and t at sorry 1 didn't have
it today.
Mrs. Gordon: Have you included as 1 asked before some audio equipment
and the braille, and the enlargement of the area, ---
Mr. Stone: Yes
ma' am ,
Mrs. Cordon ----the rails to hold on, so they know where they are walking?
Mr.Stoae: I know the Commission is recessing, but if you are going to be
in the Miami area, ----
Mrs. Gordon: I will be in Miami most of the month,
Mr. Stone: As soon as it is completed we will bring it to you for review.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: What are we going to do on this?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor I don't understand the figures yet, and we had
be'ter get to that. You are deducting roughly about $320,000. worth of work
cut of the main bid which is $3,774,000. That brings that bid down to about
----in round figures, 3 1/2 million dollars but the project estimate for that
work was 2 1/2 million dollars, is that correct?
Mr. Stone: That is correct sir, 2 million,
Mayor Ferre: Now you have me all confused.
•
Mr. Stone: I was talking on all 4 of the contracts. r am lumping them
all to etner.
Mayor Ferre: I don't think that is so bad, if we are 300 thousand over
on a 4.2 million dollar job. I don't think it is great. If we can do this job
and it is still less than 10% over what we estimated.
Mr. Andrews:
this bid which is
$118,000. storage
to the 330 or so, -
There is one more element that was added and was part of
not being included in Mr. Stone's accounting here, is
building, that should be added, so you add the $118,000,
MAyor Ferre: What is he choking about?
Mr. Srov.ie: That shows what happened to my estimating. Something went
ract:cally wrong. We estimated at a much lower figure,
Mayor Ferre: That worries me too. You mean your figures don't include the
$118,000, shed?
Mr, Stone; It was an add alternate, that
Mr. Andrews; We think that is critical, after we get in there we want
to have proper facilities to maintain it, so what you are talking about is
$450,000. to be added to the project cost if we want to go ahead at this time,
JUL 311975
Mayor Ferre: Let ea oak you a question, can we do for exatple the green
the trees, and all of that without getting into all this other atuff? As
understand the low bid on this thing was under the estimate.
Mr. State: We have four contracts Mr. Mayor, there were 3 under -bid,
one was dramatically overbid,
Mayor Ferre: Which is the one that is over?
Mr, Stone: The hard constructions utilities, concrete,=
Mayor Ferret Who was the low Bidder on that?
Mr. Stone: M.B. Harrison & Company, —
Mayor Ferre: What was his bid on that.
Mr. Stone: Their bid was, ----base hid,y----3, 7
Mayor Ferre: No, no, with all the stuff stripped off,with the alternates
that is what counts isn't it?
Mr. Stone: Yes, sir, all stripped down its 3 million, 293,-`---
Mayor Ferre: 3 million, 293, let me ask you this, what was your
estimate, that should have been, ----
Mr. Store: Our estimate was 2, million 710,----
Mayor Ferre: 2 million, 710,
Mr. Reboso: a half million dollars, ---
Mayor Ferre: What was the price of the next bidder?
Mt. Stone: $3,809,728.00-
Mayor Ferre: You mean from 3 million 293, they went to 3 million 8--
stripped down,____
Mr. Stone: Excuse me, stripped down, 1 haven't made a.cost comparison
of those two.
Mayor Ferre: Then give it to me without stripping, what was Harrison's
low bid?
;r. ::tone: -----base bid, $3,774,000,00
Mayor Ferre:What was the next bid?
Mr. Stone: $3,809,728.00
Mayor Ferre: What was the next bid?
Mr. Stone: $4,080,000.
Mayor Ferre: What was the next bid?
Mr. Stone: That was it sir, that is one of our problems,
Mayor Ferre: We had only 3T•bidders? With the lack of work in this town,
and you only had 3 bidders?
Mr. Stone; What we have surmised Mr. Mayor and Commissioners is, my assumption
is, we had some 20 sets of drawings picked up by general contractors. I have a
feeling they thought it was ,just a park without some of the features we have
all wanted in the park, got down to the wire on bidding it.
Mayor Ferre: Got scared
Mr, Stone; ----started scrutinizing and threw up their bande,--
lOts
JUL 3 , 1975
Mayor Ferre: Let me askyouthis, now, who were the other bidders?
Mr. Stone; M.k. Harrison was the low bidder, Marks Bros. Company
Wm the 2nd low bid, and Bartlett Construction.-.,--..
Mayor t~erre: Those Mete three good firms, Bartlett, Marks and Harrison,
Mr. Stone: That is right.
Mayor Ferret tet the ask you this, if, and t at$ just asking,Father don't
get excited, on the stripped 3 million, 292, ttow he said he wanted to get it
to 2 million 710, so the difference is,--altost $580,000.
Mr. Andrews: And that is without the $118,0004 building.
Mayor Ferre: Is there any way you think that if we were to ihstruet
you to go to work -----I don't know if this is legal or not, but sometimes
in the private world, what we do is work with the low bidder to see if we
can get them down.
M. Andrews: There is no legally you could do it, or no way legally
I could do it.
Mayor Ferre: We can't sit down with this guy and say now look, why don't
you cut this down $50,000. or that $100, 000. ----
Mr. Lloyd: We can't do that. The only way you could to it is reject all
bids and readvertise for bids.
Can
Mr. Reboso: We have new bids for September 4th for the next City Commission
meeting?
Mr. Stone: We figured it out Mr. Reboso, you can't have it with the
advertising period in a realistic,
Mayor Ferre: Can you have it by the second meeting, Sept. 28 and
would you make it a point Mr. Stone to try to get more than 3 bidders on
this.
Mr. Stone: Isurely will,
Nr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor if I can interrupt you, what we are going to
do if you permit us, to do this, and that is reject these bids and start all
over again, in both contracts, is that we are going to design a proposal
with Mr. Stone's assistence wherein a large number of smaller contractors
can bid individual projects, ----
Mayor Ferre: Now wait, you are talking about the base bid, I don't
see any reason why you should penalize the people that were low bidder on
the plants and all that, if they were under budget. They bid fair ans square,
and I don't think you ought to throw them out.
Mr. Reboso: I move we reject the bids, —
Mayor Ferre: We reject the base bid but that doesn't mean we are going
to reject all these other bids, we are going to accept the low bid on the others,
is that right?
Mr. Stone: I think we ought to consider contract No. 3 and contract NO. 4
separately, your Honor, they are two different contracts and I think the Department
of Public Works has some observations on contract 4,
Mayor Ferre; The motion by Commissioner Reboso is that we reject bide
as submitted by these 3 basic contractors, 47-C and resubmit for a reschedule
of bidding September 25th. Can't do it before then?
•
Mr, Stone; No, sir, just for the two weeks advertising period, it is
a large enough job so we would want adequate bid time for,
Mayor Ferre: Can't do it before then, uh,----if we have a special Commission
,11 JUL 3119i5
Meeting,-'t am jttat trying to get ahead a couple of weeks.
Mr, Stone: you could have a apeciai meeting, ---we could do ito-
Mayot Perre: Okay, I take it all back, the Motion la for September 25th,
is there a second?
The following motion was inttoduted by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-720
A MOTION REJECTING BIDS FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK
UTILITIES AND SITE DEVELOPMENT; AND AUTHORIZING
READVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following voter
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferte.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer.
SEEK DONATION OF TREES FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK
JUI. 3 1 1975
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Stone mayI ask a question before you leave? You know
the architects have always been interested inthetree bank concept and the
use of trees that are being relocated, are we taking advantage of•their
offering?
Mr. Stone: We have certainly tried to, we have solicited wherever possible
in expressions of interest, we have not publicly advertised, I think at this
time it might be well to go ahead and see if there are available trees in the
community.
Mrs. Gordon: It would be a good idea, because we could possibly, you
know how expensive each one of those trees are, ---
Mr Stone: Indeed r do, ----
Mrs. Gordon: ----we could root -prune them and get them ready for location
----how do we proceed, do you need a motion from us for you to do that?
Mr. Andrews, I am suggesting that we see if there are trees available within
the community that are going to have to be relocated for construction purposes,
other purposes, that we let the public know that we are interested in receiving
these trees. I would like to move that. I am asking for the public to be made
aware of the fact that we are soliciting contributions of trees that are going
to be relocated or can be relocated to be placed in Bicentennial Park, and
the architects are particularly interested in the salvaging of trees, and this
would fall right in line with what they want. I so move,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its saaprion:
MOTION NO. 75-724.
A MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SEEK DONATIONS
FROM THE PUBLIC OF TREES TO DE REPLANTED IN BICENTENNIAL PARK
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J U L 31 1975
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Beboso, the motion tans passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. RNboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev, Gibson and Mayor yerre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Pict -Mayor Plummer
J J . 31 1976
AWArD BID •- BICENIENN!AL PARK PHASE II LANDSCAPING $ IRRIGATION
DISCUSSION .AND. _REJECTION of ALL. _BIDS_
Mayor Ferre: The next item, what is your recommendation?
Mr. Stone: We have a bid Mr. Mayor, --the low bid is $532,000.00 base
bid accepting the alternates, --let me give you the base bid without alternates,'
$646,000. with the second low bid of $648,000.00
Mayor Ferre: Uow, only two thousand,
Mr. Stone: --against a budget estimate by our firm of $850,000.---
Mrs. Gordon: That is for shrubbery and trees, and thing?
Mr. Stone: All landscape developments,---
Mayor. Ferre: Can we proceed on that?
Mr. Stone: Apparently there is 3 bid irregularity I think Mr. Grimm
would like to speak to.
Mrs. Gordon: While he is moving to the mike, how can we save on that
if we contract with them, and you are able to receive trees?
Mr. Stone: We could bid each tree on a unit price basis, if we were able
to receive trees from the community atlarge we would get a price for installation
only.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay,
Mayor Ferre: Let's find out what Mr. Grimm wants to say.
Mr. Grimm: My purpose behind recommending that the commission reject the
bids on Phse 4 is, has really nothing to do with the irregularities although
theyv are som;, but the commission has the authority to waive them. The reasoning
is this, is that if we reject Phase 3 which we have done, we are in a good position
to combine Phase 4 with it to split it into two separate parts, to make a total
bid on the whole project with separate items bid,
Mayor Ferre: I am against that, that is morally wrong. I don't mind you
throwing out a job because they are over budget, but for somebody to come in
and take his time and bid this job, and come, when you estimate $850,000.
they committed $646,000. which is substantial , and for you to tell me you are
going to throw it out because you plan to get a better deal later on, in my
opinion with all due respects to you, is morally not right. If they are low
biddgers, bona fide people, I think it is wrong to throw it out, If -we did things
that way, ----in the other case it is different, because they were over the estimate
and we don't have the money. It is just that simple. We don't have $600,000,00
but T think it is morally wrong to make these people go through allthe work they
had to go through to bid this thing, and when they are the low bidder not award it.
Tell me because there is a two -thousand dollar difference the low bidder
and the one next to them. I want to know who the two companies area
Mr. Stone: Jacaranda Nurseries, --
Mayor Ferre: Who is second?
Mr. Stone: Pestonit,
Mayor Ferre: Is Jacaranda bidder beret You tom up here, m Kare you
a Miami outfit.
Unidentified person: No, sir I am tot.
Mayor rerre: Where ate you from?
Unidentified person: broward County, rt. Lauderdale.
Mayor Ferre: Are you Miami outfit, (to other bidder)?
tlnidentitied person: Yes, t am a Miami outfit.
Mayor Ferre:t want to remind this commission that we passed a resolution
Rev. Gibson: I made it clear that I hoped that in the future one of the
first considerations would be if a than is able to do the work and he is from
Miami that he be always considered now, ---it is alright for :ae to look out for
the other folk,---
06,
Mayor Ferret'I want to know what the difference is between the first and
the second bidder, exactly in dollars.
Mr. Andrews: $1,230.00,----
Mayor Ferre OUt of a total of how much,
Mr. Andrews: ----of the base bid,
Mayor Ferre:---on $646,000.00, the difference is $1,230.00?
Mt. Andre-ws Right,
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this question, ---do they have a bond, --does
everybody have bond, occupational licenses, permits or whatever it is,
Mr. Grimm: They have bonds, they do not need occupational licenses.
Rev Gibson: 24r. Mayor let me as'a question, what about, --we have some
tight belts now.
mayor. Ferre: Are there any irregularities in any of these bids?
Mr. Grimm: Yes, the apparent low bidder under these figures, submitted
his proposal on the wrong page.
Mayor Ferre: But that is a technicality, we are not going to hold that against
him. .` hei than a technicality are there any other irregularities in the bid?
Mr. Grimm: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: And you are satisfied as to the bond.
Mr. Grimm: Yes, sir,-
Mayor Ferre: There is no need for occupation license? What is the
administration's recommendation on this?
MB, Andrews: We have already had an expression from you, that what we
were going to propose is not the proper thing to do. Our recommendation was
to r0 ect t"..f aids and divide this project into to parts and receive a total
bidand receive in two parts, so we could hope to do better than this because
of this irregularity, and because we were going to recommend a rejection on
the major portion of the work.
Mayor Ferre: Now we will hear from both firms, l think we ought to hear
from the low bidder first.
Unidentified person: I think Mr. Stone had mentioned there were quite a
few alternates in this job. I don't have the exact figures by comparison with
the other bidders, taking these alternates into considereticn, this does make
quite a difference in money, In other words, if these alternates are deletion
from the base bid, and the altercates which we had submitted are cotsiderably
more that the alternates of the other bidder, so by using this 1 feel that
our bid would be substantially lower than the other bids.
Mayor Ferret Anything else you want to say?
Unidentified persona I would like
there would be at preference given to,
this may have somewhat detertlned the
which were submitted to me,
to say I was unaware when bidding this,
regardless of where a person was from,
bid too, I bdded based on the specifications
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews, I know that that resolution that we passed
is of recent vintage.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and Commisisoners, commission it the past, over the
years, and you have just reinforced once again what has been adopted, for almost
15 years.'
Mayor Ferre: That is not the point my friend. The point is, that when a
man goes out and bids, he has to be told, because I am not a lawyer, but after
the fact, you can't tell a person after it is all over that that the law you
can apply to aim, if he didn't know when he was doing it. In other words what
I am saying is that in the future, you have got to put in all bid documents,
a copy of the City of Miami resolution that says that we give preferential
treatment on a priority basis, one, things that are Miami based, two, Dade
County, three, Florida and four, American, in that order.
Mr. Andrews: Also there is one qualification and all other things being
equal, ---
Mayor Ferre: all other things being equal, that is where we are at,
there is a difference of $1200.00.
Mr. Reboso: Mayor Beam in New York has established a procedure that when
the bid is not in excess of 10%, it will go for the local,
Mayor Ferre:---now, we are getting into a definition of how equal is
equal, --
Mrs. Gordon: One is a Ft. Lauderdale firm, is that it, and the other
is a City of Miami location, is that it? The seoncd bidder, where is your
firm located?
Unidentified person: 5749 S.W. 8th Street,-
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, you are in the cty of Miami?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor let me ask a question, isn't it a policy that
in the bidding process, I always remember, or maybe I am wrong,------
I am not going to ask that,
Mr. Julio Pestonit: I am Julio Pestonit, President of Pestonit Nursery
and Flowers, the bid documents refer very clear to a certificate of competency
which is true, we don't need, but as a prerequisite to bid, --it was very clear
in 3 part of the book that you need an occupational license and Jacranda Nursery
didn't have it at that time.
Mayor Ferre: Now Vince Grimm you had better listen to this, because
you say he doesn't need an occupational license, and this wannow says he
does need an occupational license? Does he or doesn't he?
Mr. Grimm; Well, you have to take his word or mine Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I am asking you to review to make sure on the record what
is going on.
Mr, Grimm; That is wilt Iam telling you, according to the Tax Collector,
occupational licenses are required for people whose place of business is in the
City. His place of business isn't in the City,
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Mr. pestont: But it was a prerequisite in this specific bid.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grits has the floor.
Mt. Grimm:-=zyo..o Licenses, as a prerequisite to the submission of a bid,
the bidder shall told a valid certificate of cottipetettcy as issued by the
appropriate examinittg board of Metropolitan Lade County. Landscape contractors
are not included in that requirement. No, 1.--'Mo. 2 , as a prerequisite the
signing of the contract, the bidder shall and all his subcontractors shall hold
a County municipal occupational license as issued by Metropolitan bade County,
provided they live here, and he 'hasn't signed the contract yet.
The point he makes about the prerequisite of bidding has to do with
a certificate of competency, but there is tone required for a landscape
contractor.
Mr. Reboso: But you need a occupational license, it is prerequisite, —
Mr. Andrews: You do that before thcyr sign the contract.
Mr. Pestonit:--because a certificate of competency is based on a
professional license, and that was a prerequisite of bid. In page 2 of the
proposal they didn't use the revised one, and they say very clear this addenda
is an essential part of the contract document.
Mr. Grimm: I called that to the Commission's attention and I believe
the Mayor said that was not very valid, ---I said he filled it out on the wrong
page.
Mayor Ferre: We have to go what our staff recommends. I am very
sorry, I would like to be able to agree but I don't see that we have any
choice.
Mr. Reboso: What I am saying is, that in my opinion I will move to follow
the recommendation of the administration.
Mayor Ferre: What is your recommendation, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Andrews: Because of all of these complications, because the project number
three was rejected, because project number 4 can be further subdivided and still
receive a total bid which won't exclude the two of these gentlemen from rebidding
this work and because we're going to get new bids on that it is our recommendation
that you also reject these bids and give both of these firms a fair opportunity
to supply new bids.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion on the floor.
UNIDENCI.i Ijai) SPEAKER: He said that there were some of the problems on this
..0 gurdir,g this licensing thing. There is also in the specifications which gives
a place to call regarding the license ...
Mayor Ferre: Look, that has been clarified. He clarified it. We have to go
by what Vince Grimm says. We're going by the Manager's recommendation.
Mr. Pestonit: Mr. Mayor, on page 2 of the proposal the use for irrigation, of
course, is a subcontractor and the name of this contractor is
and they use a certificate of competency in that item instead of a professional
license, what it called for and that certificate of competency belongs to a
company, Marine Foundation.
Mayor Fern': Look, that's not going to change the vote here, Would you make
sure that next time we go around bidding these things this doubly sure that
everybody understands what these things all mean, Well, you have to have a
bidder's conference and then you.,. I'm sure you do that anyway, don't you,
Vince?
Mr. Grimm: We have bidders conferences on some jobs, Mr, Mayor, and we should
have had one on this.
Mayor Ferre; Well, have one on this one, would you so we don't have any of
these things come up to us again.
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The following motion vat introduced bye Dormiasiener Reboso who
rove its adoptions
MOTION NO, 7J722
A MOTION REJECTING SIBS RECEIVED POR R10ENTENNIAL
PARR LANDSCAPING AND t1U IOATION AND AI THORIRUNG
READVERT/SEMENT POR BIDS.
Upon being setbttded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Comthissianet Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayors Maure A, Perre
Absent :Vine Mayot Plummer NOES: NOne. ,! 131 1975
30, AWARD BID PARKS SHELTERS AND COMFORT 'STATIONS- 1975
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-723"A"
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF OVIDIO P. RODRIGUEZ, JR. IN
THE AMOUNT OF $78,750 FOR PARKS - SHELTERS & COMFORT STATIONS
1975 (ITEMS 1 & 3); ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $78,750 FROM THE
ACCOUNT ENTITLED "PUBLIC PARKS & RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND
FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT
THE AMOUNT OF $1,575 TO COVER THE COST OF INCIDENTAL EXPENSE;
t.ND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH
SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
.Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. NOES: None.
Absent:Vice Mayor Plummer
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
AYES:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-723"B"
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF AD-A-LITE ELECTRIC, INC. IN THE
AMOUNT OF $52,00 FOR PARKS - SHELTERS & COMFORT STATIONS - 1975
(ITEMS 2 & 4); ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $52,000 FROM THE ACCOUNT
FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $5,200 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJ-
ECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE'AMOUNT OF $1,040
TO COVER THE COST OF INCIDENTAL EXPENSE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev,) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre. NOES: None
Absent; Vice Mayor Plummer
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JUL 8 1 187
31, RIVERSIDE BAPTIST CHURCH PROPERTY ACQUISITION
AUTHORIZE MAN/UM TO DRAW CONTRACT
Mr, Andrews: Mr. Crouch will brief the commission on the details but I'm
happy to report that we have successfully negotiated what we think is a
proper purchase price for the acquisition of this property and I'M happy to
recommend to the commission that you authorize us to enter into purchase of
Riverside.
Mayor Parte: What is the price?
Mr, Crouch: The final negotiated price was $105000000 and this is the base
price for the putchaae of the entire property with furniture and fixtures
included.
Mts. Gordon: And what was the appraisal on this?
Mr. Crouch: The original asking price was $1,750,000. The city had an apptaisal
of $11400,000 and the church had an appraisal of One million eight, nine sever:
five hundred and the furniture and fixtures were estimated at the church and
asked to purchase it at $125,000.
Mrs. Gordon: In other words you got it at our appraisal including the...
Mr. Crouch: Plans the furniture and fixtures and in essence it is a little
higher than our appraisal. We did pay them a little above the appraisal.
Mrs. Gordon: But not very much. And how are we paying for this, with our
Parks Bond money?
Mr. Andrews: No, Community Development Funds. The county is participating
with us the amount of $650,000, $675,000.
Gordon! Any strings attached by the county?
Mr. Andrews: No, you remember now the county is going to cooperate with the
city and they're going to help set up a portion of that center to render ser-
vices to the total community. This is all worked out with the Community Task
Force,
t1ayor Ferre: No Paul, this is our property.
plx. Andrews: Oh yes, sir.
Mrr. Gcirdon: And we have control -over what goes in it?
Mr. Andrews: We have control over it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now Reverend, are you happy with this price?
INAUDLJLL
Mls. Gordon: That's a diplomatic answer.
Mr. Crouch: Mr. Mayor, one thing that we do have,.depending upon final closing
there would be any deferred payment, what Mr. Andrews was telling you is that
we have presently in hand or committed $750,000 from Community Development money
this year from the city's fund; $675,000 from the Metro funds. We anticipate
about $300,000 in alterations to make the church usable to the programs. We're
going to be pitting together a package whereby this will all be accomplished
out of this year's community development funds and next year's which we estimate
about $300,000 would have to go into it, We are going to defer payment to the
church of a portion of their amount of money in the base price of $1,500,000
will be... We will be making en adjustment in the base price to the church to
rvcompense them for out of pocket costs for the deferred payment which will not
exceed 5% Ob the unpaid balance but we're not allowed to pay interest from CD
moneys so we're adjusting the base price.
Mrs. Gordon: When are we going to be able to close and when the contract be...?
Mr. Crouch; As soon as we can get the materials up on the abstract and we have
talked to chew about using part of this property in advance of the closing if
possible.
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Mre. 'Gordon: When are ve going to aigt a tontract with them?
Mr. Crouch: What we will do with the City Comission's authority to move
forward with this we would enter into the agreement and get a contract*
Ctrs. Gordon: I'll move it. And I remember the Mayor said we're going to have
a day care center there. You know, t heard that, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Vetre You heard it and you heard it good now repeated. And I also want
to repeat for the record that I had a whole series of secret negotiations on
this one too attd I watt to report so that now that it's done... But before you
vote I want to tell you whet the aeeret negotiations were. I went to a wedding,
it was not a secret wedding, and at that wedding I met the reverend.atid major
Shelton came to me and told me that that church was for sale. I went over to
the Reverend and we discussed it. We discussed it in secret.
Mrs. Gordon: t wish i had you for a salesman in my office.
Mayor- Terre: Now I want you to know that' I held a whole series Of secret meet-
ings and that those secret meetings went on for a period of two months and that
Mr. gill Scheer was involved it those secret meetings, that ter. Paul Andrews and
I on one, maybe two occasions went to meet with these people without anybody
else's knowledge and that we concluded this to my satisfaction and to Paul Andrews'
satisfaction to the extent that we thought it was reasonable and at that point we
brought it up to the commission. Now again, I repeat, I'm sorry I did not tell
the commission the whole story from the very beginning because I didn't think it
was necessary or appropriate to divulge all of this and bother the commission
with the details of it until I in my opinion thought it was a reasonable price,
a do -able project. We had to work out where the money was codling from and what
type of uses would be and whether or not we could Metropolitan Dade County to
cooperate. That was all done and after it was done, then we came to the commission
and discussed it.
Mrs. Gordon: Who discussed it with Metropolitan Dade County.
Mr. Andrews: We did, ---
Mayor Ferre: He did and I did separately. I talked to Ray Goode on
this.
Mr. Andrews: I had my staff communicate with their counterpart in the
county, and that was discussed as far as community development was concerned,
and we put a package together based on uses worked out real well.
Mayor Ferre: The phantom strikes again.
Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, you are going to get a reputation.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon„who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75- 724
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED WITH THE ACQUISITION
OF THE RIVERSIDE BAPTIST CHURCH PROPERTY
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr.-Reboso,Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Plummer
JUL 31 1975
CONSIDER REQUEST OF; INTERNATIONAL CENTER OF FLORIDA FOR ALLOCATION
OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS AT THE TIME
THE COMMISSION CONSIDERS FRSF ALLOCATIONS
Mr. Milt Fisher: My name is Milt Fisher and Iam here today representing
the International Center of Florida which is a civic organization, I ,am
accompanied by most of this group of very patient aad very fine key citizens
of our area, who could undoubtedly express this in much better form. our
purpose here first is to appologize for our lateness•in appearing in front of
this group. We were not aware until just recently, a couple of weeks ago, of
the possible abailabi1ity of funding out of federal. revenue .*1 ari.ng funds,
and we did write to the good Mayor requesting to appear herein front of you
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all, and we appreciate you special consideration in having un sppear here today,
Our purpose is to request funds for the 1Nter iationtl Center of Florida. Those
of you who may not by aware, the International Center of Florida in a civic
organization, which is eanentlglly,.qnvolved itt the furtherence of international
trade, and international culture, in recognizing; the iinique situation of Miami,
particularly iti international cotetnerce.
Mr. Andrews: Excuse air, we ate inadvertently putting the City Comtniasiott
in a very awkward position and if you bear with me I would like to explain
why. These people are asking really procedural matter rather than to include
a description of what they are proposing to do. They were not aware that the
City Commission would be entertaining proposals for .programs for revenue sharing.
They would like as a first stage, and I am going to•speak for you if I may, re-
quest of you, that their project be considered and they be permitted to supply
us with an application to be considered, and they are attempting to describe
their project to you which will come at a much later time when everyone else
Mayor Ferre: We ought to make the motion here to make them an exception
and waive the time requirement and let them be
Mr, Andrews: If the Commission wishes that, we would send them theforms
and all'other information.
Mrs. Gordon: Sr. Andrews, some time ago, I forwarded to you, an application
for their organization that we be a member as a group, -»--I would do it I were in
a position to do it personally, but as a group we ought to be interested in the
international aspects of this community, and be a participant in their ventures,
but I haven't heard anything from you on it, so do you become a member of it?
Mr. Andrews: I don't think so, Mr&. Gordon, I am not sure.
Mrs. Gordon: I ask you this simpley because that is separate and apart
from what we are considering now, but it is pertinent because they are here.
Will you look into that please?
I move we allow them to make a presentation.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-725
A MOTION OF INTENT TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST OF THE
INTERNATIONAL CENTER OF FLORIDA FOR ALLOCATION OF
FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS AT THE TIME THE COM-
MISSION CONSIDERS THE BUDGET FOR ALLOCATION OF
FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer.
J!JL 31 1975
33 , PERSONAL APPEARANCE "BAL T FOLKLOR I CO OF COLUMBIA
Vic AL.BoRNoz REQ ST FOR FUNDING ETC,
Ms, Vicki Albornoz:My name is Vicki Albornoz, distinguished Mayor and
Commissioners, I recall that around April 10 I was here asking for your support
or funds to bring down the Ballet Fioklorico from Colombia as part of the Bi-
Centennial celebration. At that time the Mayor and you -people told me that I
could count on your support. Now, I come to ask you for $6,000.00 that it will
cost to bring down the Ballet from Colombia, and that is the of the
Impresario, --the moraii.g we go to the Impresario who will take care of bringing
down this crew for one Ca)? performance at the Dade County Auditorium, So before
I sign anything I want to know if the City of Miami is able to give us those
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$6,000.00 betauee I do have to respond to them very quickly, and 1 went to
leave it up to you to tell me one way or the other.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and umbers of the Commission, tomorrow Morning
about 8 o'clock we will be delivering the City budget to you, 1 highly recommend
that you take no aetion on this until you receive that budget and hake your
decisions in reference to this attd other matters that you are going to have
to fund because you ate going to find that the City of Miamiswell, you will
see better when you see the budget tomorrow. It may be possible to assist but
the Commission will have to tread very carefully, and I suggest you do that
only after you get into budget hearings.
Mayor Ferre: Vicki, I hate to tell you this, but right now there is
no way can pull the money utttii We go through the budget.
Ms. Albornoz: How soon do you Want me,------
Mayor Ferret When is the Ballet coming?
Ms. Albornoz: The thing is that the presentation is going to take place
-----suppose to take place, on October lst. Before I sign, I want to make sure
and I want to know when 1 can tell these people that I will be able to sign
the paters, otherwise I will have to pay the $6,000, from my own pocket.
Mayor Ferre: You can afford it, but we don't want you to do that.
what do we do about this? We went on record.
Ms Albornoz: I know, Ithink it was April loth.
Mr. Andrews: I can't recommend this to you. You can act and do the things
y'u ?eel you .geed to do, but I can't recommend this at this time. We have
personnel problems and other things, ----
Mr . Albornoz: What do you want me to tell them? You have to wait?
Mayor Ferre: Today, we don't have the money, --we will look at the budget
tomorrow, and we will have to go through the budget hearing which will be on
2nd, 3rd and 4th and I want for the first time in the City of Miami history
I am hopeful that this commission will pass this budget in the first week in
September which we have never done and I hope we will be able to do that. I don't
know whether we can, ---I hope we can. If we do that like Metro does, they get in
there and goy 1,2,3 and that is it ---what happens to us, we agonize for a month
then give certaia people who like to take on the City of Miami to rip us apart,
I am not going to name who they are, an opportunity to rip us more.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor it is my objective this year during the month
of A';;ict when I come back about the 12th or so, shortly thereafter I'll be
a;! tech of you personlly, one on one, two of us sit down, on an individual
basis and take 3 o4 4 hours and go throught the budget page by page after you
have looked at it to try to respond to your questions and your concerns so that
when you come to the meeting you are in a better position to get through the work
area.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews I don't want to criticize your predecessor
or predecessors, let me tell you, the big problem with this budget, and I
used to sit here and agonize and see what was going on, is that nobody ever
knew what the hell it was all about, and we would vote blindly. I would spend
hours and hours, and I used to get my own accountants to try to put it together
and let me tell you, no way.
Mre. Gordon: I'll tell you I have had an accountant look at it for the
past: three year, every year,
Mr, Andrews; Really the budget system is really not complicated, it is
just a maze ofdetails, and you get lost in them unless you know where you
are going.
Mrs. Gordon; I assure you that we need to sit with you.
Mayor Ferre; It is very simple, if you happen to have the guidelines.
If you don't happen to have the guidelines, then you have a,computer memory,
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and you have to maze through page 24, 38, and
Mrs. Oordoh. -wand how that fits into each other,-.,-..
Mts. Alborttoz Could you keep me in mind?
Mayor Ferret September 4th Vicki, -
Mrs. Aibotnoz: Okay, thank you very touch.
JUL 81 1975
CORNELIUS J. HOLLAND REGARDING CIVIL. SERVICE
34. PERSONAL APPEARANCE EXAMINATION FOR ELECTRICIAN AND COMPLAINT
REGARDING REGISTERS AND HIRING PRACTICES
Mr. C..J. H011and:Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Cornelius
J. Holland, --Mayor Ferre, in some ways you remind me of Tote Dun of Elizabeth,
but Totn Dunn, and you know him, because you attend the Mayor's League, --up north
Elizabeth N.J. I was involved in politics, —
Mayor Ferre: That isn't the guy that went to jail is it?
Mr. Holland: No, I never went to jail.
Mayor Ferre: No, not you, one of those politician,
Mr. Holland: No, you are talking about a namesake of mine, who happens
to be a fine gentleman, that was Cornelius ,
Mayon- Ferre: You just got me shook up a little bit, you said like that
Mayor up in New Jersey.
Mr. Holland: Mr. Mayor, Tom Dunn is a mayor and still is a mayor of
Elizabeth N.J. and I hear from Tom every year. In some ways you remind me of
him, of your determination of your ability to conduct a meeting all day long,
but thank heavens we didn't have meetings all day long in Elizabeth.
Pertaining to this letter, ----
Mayor Ferre: All right Mr. Holland, come to the point because we have to
move on with the meeting. What exactly is the point?
Mr. Holland: The point is, I explaind the point yesterday.
Mayor Ferre: But we wern't listening yesterday.
:r. Tolland: I passed this test, I was told when I took it, that if
wanted 2 weeks to study for it I could, that it was the first time they
were using this teat in the City of Miami. I told them no, I didn't need
time, because I had been a master electrician for 27 years up north.
Mayor Ferre: What is your point?You passed the test and they did not
hire you, is that the problem?
Mr, Holland: That is the problem, not only is that the problem but I would
like to know why.
Mayor Ferre; Who can answer that? Is there anybody in Civil Service that
can answer that?
Mr. Yates: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, the only
reason that we can give from a civil service stand point that he was not hired,
is that the department has a choice of 3 people. On January 15, 1974 had a Mr.
George Frese take the exam and pass it, and had a 96 score. The department
head wanted a choice of 3 so on 1/28 Cornelius H011and took the exam and passed
with a score of 75, after interviewing the two the department selected the one
that first took the exam and the one with the highest score. That gentleman was
scheduled for a medical on 2/8/74 and failed the medical. Again the department
wanted his choice of 3, We gave the examination on 2/8, one person took it, Mr.
L. Bledsoe, score 92, he was hired and commenced work on 2/19. He resigned on
8/15/74, Again we gave the examination to give the department a choice of 3, this
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time, we had 7 candidates due to the unemployment in the construction trade,
-a Mr. ,toss hies was hired. Again, it was a choice of was'tha reason he
Was not selected insofar as eivii service was concerned.
Mayor 'erre: One of these was Latin, were any of those black, other
than this gentleman.
Mt. Yates: I doit't know. t assume that the than that was hired was Latin
from his name.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, -----
Mt. Holland: Now, a point to the previous speaker, concerning civil service
laws, I am not familiar with City of Miami laws, but when a civil service test
is given, isn't that list usually good for at least one year?
Mt. Yates: Yes, sir.
Mr. Holland: Your name is Holland just like mine.
Mr. Pate:.: No sir, my name is Yates.
Mr Holland: I had dealt with a man named Holland but the gentleman I
spoke with here this morning was head of the Civil Service that was here yesterday,
and he told me these separate tests was at these particular times'that you named.
These were separate tests. Isn't a list good for at least one year?
Mr. Yates: The list is good for one year, sir, but the department head
does have a right under the laws and rules to have a choice of 3 people to be
Interviewed.
Mr, hciland: You give me two different answers. I asked you wasn't a list
good for one year.
Mr. Yates: Yes, sir.
Mr. Holland: If the list is good for one year and you hired a man which
I knew nothing about, the man in civil service that gave me the test knew nothing
about because he said you are the first one taking this test for this job as
electrician. This test I am giving you is the first new test out in the City of
Miami for this job. Now, you brought down a list of 4 different people at various
times. After this first man failed in this medical test, why did you not call me
in as my name was second on the list, is what I am arguing about.
you.
Mr. Yates: The department head has a choice of 3, that is all I can tell
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask a question? Were you here yesterday?
Mr. Yates: No, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You wern't? I am sorry, I wish you were because this is the
very kind of thing we were talking about. Let me see if I understand you. I don't
know this man. This man took the examination, he go on the list, he qualified.
Mr. Yates; Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You said to him, and I know nothing about civil service,
you said to him that when he takes the exam he is put on the list, and that
list is good for a period of a year.
tr. Yates: Yes, sir,
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor listen to what this man said, even though he was
on the list, the list was good for a year, two separate times subsequent to the
time he qualified, they had an examination and each time, nobody paid him any mind,
Man, something is fundamentally wrong, Either we should have given him the opportunity
to take the examination again, --I don't know what the civil service rules says, but
I tell you this, if it says anything other than that, we need to give some serious
look at civil service, They aren't bearing the heat. We are catching the heat.
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Mr. Yates; Father Gibson you shieutiderstood one thing. Re ryas notthe
fire t man to take it. He was the second matt to take it.
Rev. Gibson:l didn't say he taaa the first. 1 mid that this nian, the
tat asked you how good web the list, how long was the liar good fort
You said one year. You meat to tell me if you have a list that is good and
he is on there, qualified, you are still going to get another examination.
Mr. Yates: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson You know what you are telling me don't you2
Mr. Yates: The fact that yougive another exam doesn't void the list that
this man is on.
Rev. Gibsea: Why would you need another examination if this mate is
qualif ied
Mr. Yates: In order to give the department a choice of 3, which he
has a right..
Mrs. Gordon: I have a question Mr. Yates, to clear the air, when the
three naes were submitted was his name on it each time?
Mr. Yates: I don't know he was referred all three times, because the
department head never had a choice of 3 from the very first person.
Mrs. Gordon: Was he referred each time there was a vacancy.
Mr. Yates: We nave only had one vacancy.
Mrs. Gordon: Was he referred when there was a vacancy?
Mr. Yates; I don't have the referral records of him here.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you believe that he was?
Mayor Ferre: You have all missed the real basic point. I am going to
show you what this is all about.
Mr. Yates let me ask you a question. I asked you if anybody else was
black other than this man, you answered me you did not know, but you also told
me you .assume one might have been Latin because of his name. Mr. Yates, you work
with Civil Service Department of the City of Miami.
Mr. Yates; Yes, sir, ----
Mayor Ferre: You are No. 2 in command, so you and Bob Faulk run the operation.
You know we now have a letter from the Justice Department, you are aware, and have
see a copy of the letter,
Mr. Yates:Yes, sir, -
Mayor Ferre: The basis of the letter was a 1964 Civil Rights Act as
amended in 1972, and what that says is, we cannot hire and discriminate, and
then they turn around and say that what they mean by affirmative action is that
we are conscious of the make-up of our community. Father, what fir. Yates is telling
us is, that he was not conscious or aware of the racial make up of the people that
were hired. Doesn't that in any way point out exactly what one of the problems if
is why we are being cited by the Justice Department, If the top man in Civil Service
is not conscious of what the racial composition is of the people that are being
hired, ---back 10 or 20 years ago, I guess that really didn't matter, Or maybe it
mattered in reverse, but right now, it matters ina sense that if the top man in
Civil Service doesn't know, that is why we are in trouble with the Justice Dept.
Rev. Gibson: What was that black lawyer's name who was before us yesterday?
Remember what Know said, I am sorry you wern't here. I want this commission to
remember, I asked specifically, tf the heads of each department were here. Do
you remember that Mr. Andrews? The reason for that is, unless the head tells the
body and the foot, and toe, you are not going to get action, This is incredible
„you can't convince me, and something is wrong with these rules, If you have 4
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list that is good fora year, and in a span of less than 3 tionths, say 6 months,
you had two additional examinations, this city ought to hang its head it shames
What happened is, he is black and they didn't want hit. That is what it was.
Mr. Yates: We do not do the selecting rather Gibson, we merelyrefer the
people from our offiee,
REv. Gibson: t don't care who bells the tat, the eat needs to be belled.
That is what we are talking about, and if the at is belled, we wouldn't have
the problem we are having. This moan has been dealt an injustice. You had a list, --
Mr. Mayor let me raise this question With the Manager, what would happen if you
mete looking for policemen, you have all those black on the list, all those Cubans,
you mean to tell me, we talk about exhausting the list, the register. isn't that
what you say? Exhausting the register, ----for all intents and purposes, that
man was on the register.
Mr. Yates: He was on it for one year, yes sir.
Rev. Gibson: The year hadn't expired. He didn't fit your description, that
is what that meant.
Mr. Yates:The list expired that he was on, on January 28, of this year.
Rev. Gibson: At the time you gave the two exams, it hadn't expired.
h r. Yates: That Is correct.
Rev. Gibson: Mr, Mayor I want you to hear this, at the admission by the
no. 2 man in the department, says when they employed the man that they did employ,
this man was yet qualified, the list was still good.
Mrs. Gordon: It is a very technical point, and I am disturbed about it,
and I am not clear, if it took place, then I'll be clear. Mr. Yates, I am pressing
for information to get a clarification of understanding of what the situation was.
Realizing that gave examinations again was to get 3 people,
Mr. Yates: Yes, -
Mrs. Gordon: --if you had three people, who were presented to the department,
was he one of them?
Mr. Yates: He was referred to the department one time. liis interview rating
form came back 'selected a better qualified applicant'----
Mrs. Gordon: Was that the first time?
,r. Yates: That was the first man that took the test, the one that was
u;.:Iected, and he failed the medical examination. We had to give the examination
to give the department the choice of three,
Mrs. Gordon: Was he sent up the second time?
Mr. Yates: No, because his score would have been integrated into the
new register according to score and did not get into the top position then.
Mrs, Gordon: That is kind of funny,
Rev. Gibson; Listen to this, the department wants a list of 3 names,
okay, you sent them two, because you only had two, —
Mr. Yates; Correct,
Rev. Gibson; I want you to hear that,---
Unidenc:ified person; What happened to him?
Rev. Gibson; He was in that first group because there were two, --he
was black the other one was not black, so he was on the list, The second time,
took the exam again, and he was not in that list, Okay. The 3rd time I presume
---were there three?
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Mt. Yates! One given on the 15th) �none given on the 28th and One given
on Vebruary 8th.
Rev. Gibson: ROW many people took the exam?
Mt. Yates: One each of those three times.
Rev. Gibsoftt it would have to be two) because you gave the agency
two names, his tilte and another persot.
Mr. Yates; OnE person took each of three examinationa.
Mrs. Gordon: Bdt the point is, the only point is, that he was only given
over to the department for choice on one otcasion.
Mr. Yates: Because we only had one opening.
Mrs. Gordon: The next time he didn't get in and the text time he didn't
get in either.
Mayr Ferre: We have to startehanging some rules.
Mrs. Gordon: That is the point that very critical to item that is before us.
Gibsoti: Listen to what he said Mr. Mayor. He said there was only one
opening. I am glad to hear that, and each time with the exception of that
first time, you sent one name, is that what you did?
Mr. Yates: We sent one person, the department wanted a choice of more
,7)Pople. We sent Mr. Holland, and at that time, the department shows the first
une that they had interviewed. That man failed the medical, again the department
wanted a choice of three, so we gave it again, and got one more man.
Mayor Ferre: We need to get the department head who made all these decisions.
Who is the department head.
Rev. :-ibson: Right, let's see them.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Holland works for Mr. Eddie Cox, who is here. he
department director and can give you some information, but Mr. Holland is
not here, the gentleman who interviewed this man.
Rev. (Abson: Expalin to us, I don't understand what you are talking about.
Mr. Eddie Cox: My name is Eddie Cox, Director of PUblic Propertift. Mr.
Holland waFr, interviewed for a position of electrician in one of my divisions,
that ?roperty maintenance. The first I was aware of any problems in this
was yestsrday when Mr. Holland came before this commiasion, and voiced
some discontent regarding the interview. I contacted Mr. Holland last night
after I got home, and asked him to review and have ready for me this morning
the problems concerning this particular interview. I contacted him this morning
the answer I received was that Mr. Holland was not accepted due to the interview,
that he had with him. Obviously, when he came to be interviewed there was some
misunderstanding in Mr, Holland's mind that was as I was told, that Mr. Holland
said he had been promised the job and when he was told he had to interview other
applicants that Mr. Holland became very upset, because very loud, boistroua, that
he had been rold the job was his, that in my opinion may not have been the reason
he was not accepted, but nevertheless, as a result of that interview, he was not
accepted for employment,
Pev. Glbson: You mean to tell me Mr. Holland was not acceptable because
he was not the typical black, is that what you are telling me?
Mr, Cox: No, sir, not at all.
Mr, Holland: This man wasn't even connected with the department Reverend.
This man was just elevated to this position. This man does not know anything about
this case,
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Rev. Gibson: You ktt,w, sir, t am like the Mayor. We are responsible
to the federal government and we,either have to clean up this neaa or we are going
to lose that 10 million dollars. You know what 1 diatovered in praying, taken you
start praying with people an awful lot ofpeople don't hear the Lord. 1 learned
this in the integrating of this community and 1 repeat this every time. 1 at
native, born and reared here, 1 came back here to work 30 years ago. When we talked
to the merchants in downtown tilahl about integrating the lunch counters and all that,
nobody wanted to listen to ua. At soon as the stockholders of the 10 tent stores
decided to get rid of some heads, because they wrern't Halting any money, everybody
got religion in a Burry. No, this is incredible, that you. are looking for an elec-
trician,. ---let me ask this question Mrs Mayor, --how many blacks you have working
es electricians for the city.
Mr. Cox. None:
Rev. Gibson: Okay ,--°--
Mr. Cox: I only have three electricians.
Rev. Gibson: How many blacks?
Mr. Cox: None.
Re•r. Gibson: Do you have any Cubans?
Mr. Cox: Yes, sir,.
Rev. Gibson: When did you get them?
Mr. (o;.- 7. can't answer that exactly.
Rev. Gibson: You got him while you were doing this business here, isn't
that right?
Mr. Cox; I think Mr. Briz was hired after Mr. Holland was interviewed, yes.
Rev. Gibson: My point is well made 1 trust and I hope Mr. Andrews, you
heard. What disturbs me is, that some of us are insensitive. George Knox
was very, very right when he said what he did yesterday. It was classic.
Mr. Cox: Rev. Gibson I would like to make one comment, along those lines
since you hove explained to me the area concerning hiring minorities. I think
that my department is probably one of the better indicated departments in the
hiring ofminorities. This hasn't just happened with in the past 6 months. When
Mr. Holland rook the examination, I went for about 10 years where we could get
not ciaf,:,men. We couldn't get an electrician, we couldn't get a plumber because
woi± on the outside was too good. We suffered during this time. We have only
recently been in a position where we had any choice whatsoever available to us. I
find it ctiffucult to blame those people who are in the supervisory area for being
selective for the one time that we have had a choice in the last 10 years. It has
been extremely difficult to hire,
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask you, was working in your department?
Mr. Cox; Yes, sir.
Rev, Gibson; Mr. Andrews, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this, the
Bougness case isn't a good case for us. I stinks to high heaven. You know the
story don't
Mr, Cox: Very well, sir.
Rev. Gibson: I want you to know I know it and the men know it, 'hat doesn't
go down to the credit •of the City. Bougness recites in a letter, I am sure you
have seen the letter, that you said, or whoever said, I don't suppose it is you,
somebody else, that because he was Latin,--
Mayor F'erre: That was an alleged statement that was never confirmed,
Rev. Gibson: Mr, Mayor I'll tell. You this, I am not at all satisfied with
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Mr. Andrews' results. I think we -ought to go to the full extent of investigating
and cleaning up the mess, because all we did was, We flaw agree to hire Bougness
end think that is goittg to hush them up, but the eatteet is still it ekistettte,
and this is the proof. t was willing to go along until t heard this. Thie is the
proof that the canter is there. tiet's go oit and have some surgery and get
rid of the canter.
Mr. Andrews: gut on the other hand there is to doubt that maybe SO e of
this is Mt. l3ougness's problem too.
Rev. Gibson: You know Mr. Andrews 1 hear that Whet we are involved
because it is my word against your word, I don't mean
Mr. Andrews: tunderstand,--=
Rev. Gibson: This city has affirmative responsibility, man, I am glad
the federal government is breathing down out neck.
MR. Holland: Mr. Mayor, to the previous speaker, you have a statement
there that y made concerning this other Mr. Holland, said my conduct in his
office at that time, am I correct?
Mr. Cox: yes, sir, -----
Mr. Hoiiard; 1 have only been here 6 years, but thank heaven I have built
up a beautiful repptation, I live in a beautiful neighborhood, thank God among
some whites :hat are not discriminatory, and we have a beautiful home and we keep
it like that because we have always lived like that, but I am telling you here,
the statements you made are wrong, because I have people in high positions in
Stac . of Florida , in the State of Ne.w Jersey , and Mayors, that if this
case_ evt!. gets to federal. court, I can bring down here and they will come
dow.x here for me, because I have never been loud, I have never been versus,
I haven't been arrested, I have been a Democrat committeeman for 13 years,-
Mayor Ferre: Don't get excited ----
Mr. Holland: I am not getting excited,---1 don't like the term ----in the
first place if he came here and said that the man had asked me, when you go to
interview for a job, I interview men myself, when they come into my office, I
give them a smell test to find out their qualifications as an electrician, that
man never asked me one question about electricity, or about theory, because that
man didn't know himself..
Mayor Ferre: We are repeating, I think it all out in front of us, and
1 think in my opinion Mr. Andrews, looking from a distance, because that is
all wc a_,: looking from, distance of time, many facts, not completely under
si.:reing a11 of the facts, I would guess, and this is just a guess, and I want
to say, it is a guess, but people have strong opinions, you heard Mike Carter,
she has a strong opinion, we heard Bougness, he has a strong opinion, lots of
people nave strong opinions around here about things, they are not always right,
about everything, but you know I found it in my life that where there is some smoke
there usually fire. We have enough smoke, where there has to be some heat coming
out of it somewhere. I don't know what is causing it, and I don't know if this
man is 100% right, or whether he is 5% right, and I don't know if Bougness is
100% or 5% right. But we have had enough of these things to know there is some
smoke coning out, we see it. No denying the smoke, the question is, what is causing
it. or, you were asking yesterday what institutional prejudism means, institutional
preju:iiszu is when nobody is to blame, somehow it just happens, and we really can't
put the b7.ar'c ,---I can't come here and blame him, say Yates, you are to blame,
Cox you arc to blame, or Holland is to blame ,-----I don't know who is to blame.
i kruw this, I know here is a black electrician who has been given the run-around,
1 know that Mr. Bougness was given the run-around. I don't know if Bougness
is partly wrong, he might be partly wrong. I don't deny that, I think Bougness
is kind of a loud -mouthed guy anyway, who exagerates things, and I'll tell you,
if I were pushed around like he has been pushed around, I think he is pretty mild
myself. If I had been pushed like he had been pushed, I'd be pretty loud myself,
I can't get upset at Mr. Bougness for being loud and aggressive,»,►that is the only
way that man is able to survive, so I don't know what to tell you, except there is
smoke, and I think there is only one solution, We cap hear Mr. Holland, and next
week there will be another Mr, Holland, or another Mr. $ougness. We ere not going
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to spend all this time at evert sheeting, we will be here forever. So 1 think
we ate going to have to really, at d pretty soon, really spend some tithe addresding
the heart of the ttiatter, and we addressed part of it yesterday. l hope this
affirmative action plats does up with some. and 1 eherge you, and if we want
a fottral resolution, we will do it that way. If you come ttp with sosnes in
your reviews of departments, that you not overlook civil service. I don't know
what else to tell you. I don't know what to do about this tan.
Mr. Holland: Who?
Mayor Ferre: Oh, you know what to do, you want a job, and l don't blame
you, but we cannot interfere in than All we can tell you is, Mr. Andrews, you
have another case here. Would you look into it, ---Mr. Yates, would you look into it?
Mt. Cox, would you look into it? And hopefully let justice be done, if trot we
will see.
Mr. Yates: One comment, this happened a year and a half ago.
Mayer Ferre: Thank God this man has stamina to tome a year and a half later.
Mr. Yates: As he was told the list lasts for a year. He is to longer on
that list because the list expired in January this year.
Rev. Gibson: But you didn't do nothing when it was on there.
Mr. Yates: We only had one opening.
Rev. Gibson:You don't give me about the list has expired, --yes, a year
.•.c:d half after, but why when he was on there, nothing was done.
Mr. Yates: I can't be responsible for who is selected, Father Gibson.
We merely refer the people.
Mayor Ferre: It is institutional in nature.
Mr. Yates: He is welcome to come in and reapply and compete in the
examination again when it is given.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Yates I am not blaming you. It is not your fault, and I
art v t blaming Mr. Cox. it is not his fault and I am not blaming the Manager,
it is not his fault. I am not blaming anybody, but it happens. It happened to
Bougness, it happened to this man, and God knows how mnay others. I don't know
who's fault it is. I am not Solomon. It doesn't seem right to me; there is smoke
somewhere. Where are we going to leave it, Paul?
rtildttews: I am not going to be able to resolve this. I have too many
41, 6tion z' would have to ask him,
Mayor Ferre: Would you get into it, would you make an appointment with this
gentleman, and have one of yoru assistants do so? Thank you very much Mr. Holland
you will be hearing from us.
Mr. Holland: I think you will be hearing from me too. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
JUL 31 1975
NORA SWAN, CHAIR E QN J3IC NTENNIA COMMITTEE
35. PER •DUAL •'•�'%FARANCE AND ALLOCATING' $b, u FOR PROJECT
Mrs. Nora Swan; I am sorry, I always seeps to come before you after a long
hard day and I wanted to say that when I accepted the chairmanship o' the
Bicentennial Committee it was with the understanding that it would involve a
great deal of hard work and time and it certainly has,
Mayor Ferre: Nora, let's get right:to:the point,
Mrs, Swan Okay, the thing is, that the Aicentennial.', of course we reach
.gut to so many people, we have $o many projects that are of such great ;importance
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to the future of the City, to tourism,
Mayor 'ette: The point is you are a teacher, right/
Mrs. Swan: Right.
Mayor Ferre: when you tatie to see the the other day, another at these
secret meetings, and at that secret meeting you and l discussed the possibility
where you would take a sabbatical which you are entitled to do every ten years
or so,-=-
Mrs. Swan: --every seven years --
Mayor Ferre:--every seven years a teacher can take off and do whatever
they want to. This lady is willing to give her sabbatical up and work for
the Bicentennial, but she gets cut to half price, So what she is saying is,
she has to know now, because the school years starts in September, she is
willing to give up her sabbatical and come work at half price for the
City of Miami.
Mrs. Gordon: What does it mean in dollars?
Mrs. Swan: $6 500.00--- in other words, my salary is $13,000. and
they would pay half, ----
Mrs. Gordon: Are you willing to work at half rate? donate your services
at half rate? How can we pass up an offer like that?
Mrs. Swan: That isn't quite the point, I am willing to take my
ssbba<ti:a; and work for the Bicentennial if the city could come up with
the rest of the money for it
Mrs. Gordon: How much would it cost the city?
Mrs.Swan: About $6,000.00
Mrs. Gordon: And the rest you will get from the School Board.
Mayor Ferre: She could off on vacation, she could go to school and
a doctor.=11 degree with that, and this woman is willing to give up here sabbatical
Mrs. Gordon: I move it, ---
Mr, Lloyd: Wait a minute, you can move all you want to but we have to
conyi.,,er this legally. T. don't see a way to do it legally, that is the problem.
Mayor Ferre: All right, you find a way to do it by September 5th.
Mr. Lloyd: I'll find a way if it is legal.
Mrs. Gordon: I know we can't do anything, it is illegal, but I want to
state a position, a feeling I have, I have never seen anybody in ray life work
so much for a community of their own time, as this lady has, and the Mayor has
recognized her talent. We have called upon her, we have her work in the cultural
division, we have her working the Bicentennial commission, it is amazing how much
time she has, ---
Mr. . 1.1oyd : We might be able to do this ptoviding we've got the money
-In Coe publicity fund.
Mayor Ferre; I am going to tell you how to it, very simple. How much did
we give 3rd Century USA last year. Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews $7500,00,-----
Mayor Ferre: We are not going to give 3rd Century USA looney this year
as far as I am concerned 3rd Century USA is going around making a lot of noise
and all due respect to them, and I am saying it on the record, I think they are
wonderful. people, I think Norma Bunt is a beautiful woman and l like her, she
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is great, and Steve Nos..:.. t see a lot of talk but no action, They spending
a half a billion dollars a year, they just got $34,000. from the State, i just
cane back froth Boett~n, Boston has such at unbelievable Bicentennial ee1ebtation
_ � I don't see anything really significant around
Mrs. Gordon: if this city is going to get any recognition frob the
Bicentennial it is going to be because of our own City of Miami flt etttet►n ai
Cotntnittee,
Mayor Verret 1 would tecomrnettd to you,,, -here is the iotiot[ as i see
it, ----the :notion is we allocate through publicity funds $6,500.00 for Bi-
centennial purposes, okay, --
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor tray t be sc, bold as to make another suggestion.
Mayor Ferre: Okay that is what 1 want, John, -----
Mr. Lloyd: Your problem here is that you are talking about her working'
for a private organization, —what we should do is engage her to work for the
City of Miami, then, ----
Mayor Ferret 1 just said that John,
---
M Lloyd: --the Manager assigns her.duties.
Mayor Fcrre: I just said what you do is, put her in Lew Price's staff,
okay, ----
Mr. Lloyd: Fine,
Mayer. Ferre:--and you also give Lew Price in his budget an additional
$6500.00 for Bicentennial projects, that is his problem.
Mrs. Gordon: It is logical, because he has the additional supporting
basis that the Bicentennial Committee needs.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-726
A MOTION OF INTENT TO ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $6500.
TO THE PUBLICITY FUND FOR PROMOTION OF THE BICEN-
TENNIAL PROJECT
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso,Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer
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DISfL$gION OF ITEMS DISCUSSED AT MEETING
36 AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM OF // U AND ADOPTION OF FULL DOCUMENT
Mayor Terre: All right, we have your recommendation,--- what is we have
CO vote on now:
Ms. Anne Nicol: I am Anne Nicol, Affirmative, Action Coordinator, for
the record. I prepared this list of recommendations, point for point for the
motion No. 75-695 which l received this morning, I submitted _copies to the com-
mission earlier today.
Mrs, Gordon: I have compared your additions and corrections and personally
1 feel they are very well done,
Ms. Nicol: Thank you.
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Ms. Nicol: 1 persot► ►lly feel they ate tleeessary it order ft: matte the Intettt
of the cottnission workable
Mra. Gordatt: t ttact y, that it what t intended by my Cotttmett::bt tell you
that you have studied it acid tttaerted the teeth itito it that it teede. NEt4
Mayor she covets the point it basically the same fashion as you did, but she
put some more teeth in it.
Mayor Ferre: First of all Mr. Lloyd, 1 have taisplarred tht list that you
gave me this morning, would you give me the list again?
Mr. Lloyd: A list of Ma Nicolf s recommendations?
Mayor Ferre: No, sir, your recommendations.
Ms. Nicol: Was that motion 75a695?
Mayor Ferre: This is your motion, this is my
Ms. Nicol: I understand that the copy that you have in your hand now
sir, is slightly changed from the copy that I received because Mr. Weston
made changes in it this morning and I was not able to get a copy of the
resided 75-695.
Mayor Ferre: There should be two monthly fact sheets, one a compendium
of department head reports, the other from civil service. These should be submitted
to the affirmative action coordinator by the 5th day of each month for the month
previous. By the 15th day of each month they will be reviewed and complied by the
affirmative action coordinator, ready for presentation to the commission at'the
second meeting of the month. The second meeting of the month usually is pretty
late.Why should she give the department:, head.: 5 days and then she wants to take
10 days.
Ms. Nicol: These are suggestions, you can do with them what you wish.
Mayor Ferre: If you give them 5 days, you take 5 days. and have them
done by the 10th.
Ms. Nicol: I have no problems with that whatsoever.
nayor Ferre: Then you can have it done by the 15th,-
Ms. Nicol: I could have it done by the loth day of to month, sir.
Mayor Ferre:--and submit it to the commission by the loth. I want to tell
you so^vething from my own business, the worse thing in the world is to get records
that are 4 months late, or 3 weeks late. I think if she submits it to the commission
�.y the 15th, I don't care how she gets it. She said by the 15th day they will be
reviewed and complied by affirmative,and ready for presentation to the commission
at the second meeting, and the second meeting is always the 23rd of 24th, have it
to the commission by the 15th. That is acceptable.
Ms. Nicol: Certainly.
Mcs. Gordon: You mean not to state what meeting because sometimes we
meet before the 15th.
Mayor Ferre: Why should we have it on a meeting day. I'd like to have it
on the 15th day of each month.
Mc.. Nicol: You will have it on the 15th day of each month, sir,
Mayor Ferre: The department fact sheet should contain at the minimum,
No. of employees, No. of percentages of employees, race and nationa3.i.ty in
each - -
Mrs. Cordon; ---then you have crossed out 'ready for presentation
to the commission at the second meeting"
Ms, Nicol: We have to strike that Mrs, Gordon,
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Ms. Nicol: It will read probably by the 13th day of each m
they will be presented to the toiissiot.
Mayor Ferre: t want to add to that
applicants, number plated.
Ms. Nitol: The number plated would
have added it handwriting the number of
national origin, or rate ,
nth
under civil service, the number of
tome from the departments air, I
persons referred for openings by
Mayor Verret £ am reading from your paper, I don't want to get itt
an argument with you, the civil service fatt sheet should contain at the
minimum ,..--
Ms. Nicola --at the minimum,
Mayor Metre: I am not arguing with you, 1 am just
persons placed on each register. I act asking should we
of persons that were rejected, --
Ms Nicol:Certainly
saying the number of
also have the number
Mayor Ferre:--if you are going to have the placed, then you may as well
have the rejected.
Ms. Nicol.: --rejections would come from the departments, because as it
stands now,
Mayor Ferre:--so would the placements, didn't you
Ms, Nicol: --right,
Mayor Ferre: I don't
Ms. Nicol: You will get it, if you want that information you will have it.
care where it comes from.
tell me
that?
Mayor Ferre: I want to know how many people were rejected and what their
color or race or national origin or sex was, and why.
Ms. Nicol: Certainly sir.
Mayor Ferre: I want to know is hired, and I want to know who is rejected
and why.
Mrs. Gordon: And adding to that 1st part, and number rejected?
Ns. Nicol: Yes, Mrs, Gordon.
Mayor Ferre: Proper support, ---affirmative action should be made at the
second commission meeting, ---classes for decision makers will begin in October
or November. These classes will be federally funded under anJ IPA grant, will
be taught by the affirmative action coordinator.
Mr. Andrews, do you agree that the affirmative action coordinator should
teach these classes?
Mr. Andrews: I think you might have a problem.
Mayor Ferre: We may want somebody from FIU to teach these classes.
Mr. Andrews: I would think se.
Mayor Ferre; So I would not say the affirmative action coordinator, I would
not say who is to teach it, that has to be worked out.
Ms, Nicol; Sir, there is a grant in the works now, and the
Mayor Ferre; Ms. Nicol didui.t you tell me yesterday, if l heard you right,
that you didn't have enough time to say grave over all the things you have to do,
now you are going to start teaching lessons.
Ms, Nicol; That was decided earlier when I first cape on, when the IPA
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grant was applied for. Part of my tit e it the fall or winter would be
Mayor Verret 'Yon would have Cite to teach leseons, is that what you are
telling us.
Ms. Nicol: I am going to have to make time.
Mayor perre: Okay, and you are going to do all these other things and
make time to teach lessons? Well, I certainly would not litnit it that way, 1
would just say that, --I would leave that matter for further discussion later on.
If you are going to teach you are going to need much more than a staff of one.
Mrs. Gordon: May I ask you Mr. Mayor if you would Mist send, --put your
period after IPA grant and we can duecuss a suitable person or persons,maybe
add a staff person to her department.
Mayor Ferre: I don't agree at all with No. 5, that was not my intention,
nor is it the intention of this commission as it was passed yesterday. You have
changed the intent. I didn't say replace all non- minority department heads with
minority of :;omen. You didn't hear that.
Mrs. Gordon: This is her recommendation, she didn't hear it Mr, Mayor
she is recommending that.
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Ms. Nicol: The rationale behind that sir, was that there are at present
one affirmative action officer in each department. Were we to add another department
affirmative action officer in certain departments, we would have two people working
on the program at the same time, in order to involve the minorities, I thought it
might be expedient to do it that way.
Mayer Ferre: Let me tell you what you are going to do. Do you know what
polarization means, ----that is polarization, okay. When you take some guy who
is low on the totem pole, and all of a sudden, you jump him over, ---if you want
to divide this city between minorities and non -minorities, that is the way to
do it, --that is a good way to do it. If you want to start getting a little bit
of togetherness in people working, in my opinion what you have to do is you have
to go into a team operation, where you get somebody in an authority position, and
a minority, --that is my personal opinion. I may be wrong.
Ms. Nicol: I think that can be workable sir, if we could change that,
or 1eeve it as you have it,
Mayor Ferre: Paul, what do you think?
Mr. Andrews: I recognize the department directors have selected these
peopl.e a;d after yesterday's discussion, there may be some automatic changes
that will take place but 'don't think that the City Commission should become
involved in giving directions and automatically changing these people. You can
add to them, or get representation in some way, ---
Mayor Ferre: If you remember the intent of what we were trying to do yesterday,
that in every department there will be, besides whoever is appointed by the
department head, a representative of a minority, oaky.
Mr, Andreas: Mr. Mayor we were headed in that direction, we just haven't
implemented it, and we were not going to limit it to just one, we were going to
have several.
Mayor Fe ra: The point is, that if you all of sudden take away your
affirmative action or officer, just because he happens to be a white man,
----you know,
Mr, Andrews: We didn't: intend to do that.
Mayor Ferre: That is a good way to start nothing but problems.
Mr. Andrews; Yea,' —that individual would just help organize and take
advices and coordinate, in some departments may have two Latins and black,and
an Anglo Saxon on that committee to represent fully the department.
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Ms. Nicol.: Could we consider still having one department affirmative
action offiter for each department.
Mayor Perre: Yee,.'
Nye. Nicol: --who also had a t ommittee representative of that department
including nittorities. 'ghat I at trying to do sir, is to get awin WW1 group-
- one person in each department who is responsible etd through whom 1 catt work,
so between the attorney and ourself, we can cote up with something that would
say there will be otte department affirmative action officer and a committee.
Mayor rerro: Okay, I think we had better scratch that one,
Ms. Nicol: Can l assume we can re -phrase it along those lines?
Mayor Ferre Yes, ---
Ms. Nicol: Thank you,
Mayor 'erne: Is that the consensus of everybody here? Okay, now 6y--
Ms. Nicol: --that would be the new No.5,
Mayor Ferre: What does 7 mean,
Ms. Nicol: In your No. 7 line 2, after the word function, add 'with
appropriate enforcement powers and responsibility for affirmative action plan,
to go along with the independent function.
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you, Father, I heard what you told me yesterday,
lut me tci i you what worries m' about having, the affirmative action coordi.rsPtor
work for us, there are two things that worry me about that. The first thing is
that leaves the Manager off the hook.
Rev. Gibson: Does it?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir, then the Manager, as far as I am concerned can
turn around and say well, that is not my responsibility,---- I am just talking
out loud, --just listen for a second, I am thinking about this, it worries me
to let the Manager off the hook, I would rather be able to say, look, ---you've
got it, the affirmative officer works for you, and none of this stuff, ---the
other thine is this, that there are 5 of us, not one, --who fires a person when
he or she is not working right? Who fires them?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I would rather see the affirmative action, somebody
work for the City Commission than to take the gamble on what I have been taking
the g .:rb c:: on.
Ms. Nicol: My understanding of the Charter is such that there would
be two :Levels, should I work for the commission there would be two levels
between me and the department that would be, ----
Mayor Ferro: ----I'll tell you then, I think we are going to bring up the
matter Ms. Nicol up for a vote before the Commission at the next meeting. Do
your read me?
ME. Nicol; Yes, sir, definitely, definitely,-
Mayor Ferre: If you are willing to take your chances, that is all right
with me,
Ms. Nicol: Actually I have considered this very carefully, administratively
and to u ke the program more efficient, if a professional opinion based on any
experience as affirmative action coordinator here and my understanding of the
Charter, that it would probably be much better to leave the affirmative action
office in the department: of community affairs, as part of the Manager's 'office,
and that is an administrative decision, just from that point of view. The important
thing is the responsibility, --I at willing to take the responsibility for this
plan, but I need the independence and the authority to do it,
Mayor Ferre: An authority for what,. --see, that is my problem, independence from
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whom? The Manager? tut theft, are you going to have authority over the Manager?
Ms. Nicol: N0.
Mayor Ferre: Then what authority are you going to have, See, if you don't
have authority over the Manager, then how catt you work with department heads,
and tell him hey, you had better get on the ball, or I am going to see paun.
Andrews and get this thing straight, because at that point, see, that Manager
says 'hey, you don't work for the Manager, you can't give meat► order
Ms. Nicol: Right, which it is my opinion, that it Mould be more effective
and more efficient under the constraint of the Charter as I read it, for
affirmative action to remain in Community Affairs,
Mrs. Gordon: She says she doesn't want to be under the Commission. beeause
if wouldn't be effective for her to be under the commission.
Ms. Nicol: It could be workable, I am sure that there is a way it could
be worked out.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor let me tell you something, what you need is an
ombudsman, who ride -herd over the Manager even. Let me tell you something,
the Manager just hired 3 people, we were saying 6, he didn't show no willingness
to effectuate any change. We need somebody who would say to us, 'look, these
are the stumbbling blocks', ---that is what we need, we need to bring somebody
here who really understands, so everybody doesn't condemn the Manager. i say
this, I am convinced that you aren't going to get a doggone thing done until
we start saying to everybody, yot' ship up, or. else. That is the way you are going
to get civil rights legislation, that is the way you are going to get enforcement
of affirmative action. Nobody is really taking it seriously, and meaningful. That
man is a good example. Every time these issues come up, the Manager says well,
the poi ice department, ---
Mayor Ferre: It is 8 o'clock, and my guess we will be here till close to
10 at the rate we are going.
Rev. Gibson: I'll be here till 12 if need be.
Mrs. Gordon: We can't procrastinate on this, we have to move on it.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask Mr. Andrews his opinion, then I think we ought to
take a vote on it.
Mr. Andrews: As I see it, I think you have one of two choices, if the
City Commission feels this is an area they want to control, more directly, outside
the realm of the Manager to help establish direction for the City then I think
you need, --I think it would be very difficult for you to deal through one person
that. _ne 5 commissioners would direct. If you had something constructed, where
personally each selected a Board and that Board either chose Ms. Nicol or
chose an affirmative action officer to carry out and you set the policy, that
would be one way of operating. If you don't do that, then I would recommend that
you keep the officer within a scope of the City Manager,
Mayor Ferre: I didn't ask you to give us alternatives. I ask you to give
us your honest judgement, your best objective opinion, ---what is best for the
City of Miami, which is the system that would work the best in your objective
opinion, and the reason why.
Mr. Andrews: Well, from my point of view I think it would be better to keep
the affirmative officer under the Manger, under Community Affairs,
Mayor Ferre; Why?
Mr. Andrews: Becasue I think there are many, either you are going mo have
a belief that your department directors and the City Manager and all those in
the hierarchy of the City government are really going to try to perform what
you are hoping they are goign to perform and achieve it that way. If you have
that belief and you think it is going to happen, it will work, If you don't
have that conviction that it is going to take place, and you place this outside
the realm of the City Manager, under the City Commission, l guarantee You you
will be struggling with this for a long time to come,
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Mayor Ferre: 1 get your point. What ie you opinion.
Ms, Nicol. 1 cotcut with the Manager, it is my proieasional opinion
based on the Charter and by experience thus far, that it would be taore workable
within the very difficult time framee that we heed, 1 think this i8 one of the
key points in this whole thing, and I think we ought to express our opinion,
attd 1 am willing,ee: ee
Mts. Gordon:--eI feel, at least we could start itt this way, and if we don't
see results coming about, we can move in another..
Rev. Gibson: Myr. Mayor, 1 at not wed to any one, 1 want results. I'll go
your route, but I want to put you on notice right now, either you ate going to
ship up or you are going to ship out.
Ms. Nicol: That ig the intention I gave, sir.
Rev. Gibson: I want the Manager to understand this` 14e aren't going to have
promises, forever around here.
Mr. Rehos.:: I think Mr. Mayor that is the only way, under the Manager.
mayor Ferre: Right 8o I subscribe. Will you change 7 accordingly then
let's move on, On #8, 119, the Law Dept. to be involved in the next affirmative
action propose] to be submitted to the commission in September. Is that kind of
weak, is that what we meant?
Ms. Nicol: I wasn't sure sir, so ! left it that way.
Mayor Ferre: I am talking about the law department, the intention of
,41-.ur we said was, this is a legal document we are dealing. What is this, what
do wc: have a law department for?
Mr. Lloyd; I am reading the wrong paper, I am sorry.
Mayer Ferre: It is a legal document, right, you are not a lawyer
are you?
Ms. Nicol: No, sir.
Mr. Lloyd: I have the affirmative action recommendation in my hand, --
Mayor Ferre: John, you are talking about apples, Iam talking about
oranges. I know you had the wrong paper. That is not what I am talking about.
am not jumping on you, I am just making a point, that the law department
should be involved in legal documents. This is a legal document, all right.
tnat 1, i 1.. not clear enough.
Ms Nicol: If I may presume, I thought that what the commission intended
was that the law department be involved in all steps of the development of
the plan, any public hearings which are held,.whatever,
Mayor Ferre: No. 10 stands, --you ought to try to get better space, --
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor I am going to get better office space for all
the people i have down there, if I have to come to the commission for rent
offices to do it.
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you something, --did you see Dorsett's memo
---you ee.e wnat he said, it is a psychological thing, in other words, it psycho-
loticaily means to most people that that is where we delegate the importance of
it. Now, that is not. true,
Mr. Andrews; It certainly isn't.
Mayor Ferre; Dorsett is no dummy, that guy works at a bank,--flook at how
ne mininterpret,ed it. So if he misinterprets it, you think somebody else could
misinterpret it?
Mr. Andrews; Yes, but Mr. Mayor r guess the reason I am irritated is
because we made these moves so that we could make alterations in this part of
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the office, get certain things settled, we ate going to make small alterations
in some of the 3 buildings that we have down there, to find adequate offiees
for• everyone, but like you are experiencing, you couldn't occupy the +of f lee
while it is under construction.
Mayor Perre: Paul, listen, it isn't your fault, it itt't Cliff's fault,
it isn't anybody's fault, but you knots what happens, people who are sensitive
to things, interpret things differently from the way people interpret who
aren't sensitive. Pot example, if you are used to eomebtdy,,�4I don't know
about you, but r used to have a lot of friends who were real short, and there
Was one guy I used to call pee wee. I never realized how ranch it bothered thia
poor man that we called him pee wee. But be was sensitive about it. All I at►
saying is, that people that are involved, that have sensitivity to things
that a lot of other people don't have, a more suaceptibl:e to miginterpteting
things, and if you have the affirmative action office in the basement of City
Hall, some people might misinterpret what that means. okay?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor it might be better if affirmative action and
Civil Service were pretty much akin. It would appear to me, that if Civil
Service le here, affrimative action ought to be here, so that when people
go there and get pushed around, and kicked about, they know exactly where to
goy
Mr. Andrews: I Im u1d like Mr. Parades to tell you what arrangements I made
today as far 3s lecat!.rg that office and what ke were going to look into, and you
will have to trust us, that this ie not a story made up, that we are going to
locate her on the first floor of, the Civil Service building.
Mayor Ferre: Let's move on,
t+:r An-_`rews: Mr. Mayor there is ore thing about this whole process, now
if we are going to make up our minds that the coordinator is going to be under
the City Manager, then as we progress through this, the Manager is the one
that is going to have to be responsible for these matters, that the coordinator
is lust going to be that, the coordinator. We are not going to have an affirmative
action program unless you have the Manager the Asst. Managers, the department
directors, the division heads, all participating and believing in this, and if
the commission persists in just following directions and giveing directions to
tLe coordinator, and if she is going to be under the City Manager, is it not
going to work.
Mayor Ferre: What is not going to work?
Mr. Andrews: It is not going to work if the Commission is going to
be given directions to the coordinator. I think you are going to have to give
those .;rections to the Manager to make sure the coordinator carries them out.
Mrs. Gordon: Can I express a concern that, it is up here, you know, and
it Is not directed to you as a person because I have no grievance with you as
a person, but as evidence of a fact, as Father Gibson has said, the evidence
of the fact is that in your department, which the administrative offices, the
evidence of the interest in affirmative ie lacking and the consequence is, that
I have confidence you feel differently and are more aware now than you maybe were
6 months ago, of the need for you to demonstrate in your own department, the
action= that ;oa wish your other departments to take, in other words, as the
master of the house, by example to the children, you will, show the way, Consequently
you are going to have to take the first step forward and if she has no way to
react other then through your direction, therefore there is that kind of peculiar
feelin3 o. uneasiness here. This is the uneasiness that is up here, that maybe
nothing is going to happen because you are not going to do the first step.
Mr. Andrews: I didn't say anything yesterday because I recognized if
made comments like I am about to make now, that they might have been taken
as a negative attitude, but you know I said when I was asked by Father Gibson,
how many appointments did I make, I made 3. The thing we are not taking into
consideration to those appointments were made almost 2 years ago, I have only
made one appointment, of any coneaqueance within the laat 6 months and that was
Mr. Crumpton, and I did that after very careful consideration, r'eCogniging that
lmight even be put in this position, but I was really looking for g top quality
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person. Nov it ail the other ataas we have really strived to try to promote
people that are minorities into more important patting. You are not aware
of this, as an example that I have just appointed a black person to be Mr.
Parades' assistant a couple of weeks ago.
Mayor perre:Why didn't you tell us about it?
Mr, Andrews: We haven't had time. Do you realise how much haft been
going on?
Mayor Ferre: You appointed him two weeks ago and you haven't had time
to send a memo?
Mrs. Gordon: I am aware of the fact that you did hire someone itt that
capacity, Let's not go hind -sight ---let's go fore site for the future. Our
concern we have expressed, and you are aware of them, If you are going to be
the only body that is going to have the impetus to force the affirmative
officer to implement an affirmative action plan, theft, Father Gibson is con-
Cerned that maybe you are not going to push it hard enough, as to not minor
positions, mind you, but major positions. Not more in the sanitation department
but maybe in administrative offices.
Mr. Andrews: I think time will only tell that, and you will have to
sit in judgement_ as these things occur.
Okay.
Mrs. C ordon:l: said it before, --I said let the record speak for itself.
Mayor Ferre: Let's move along.
Mrs. C'ordon; Which one are you locking at Maurice?
Mayor Ferre: I atn looking at hers and then I am looking the one that
came, ------we are going to combine both of these 1 hope.
Nicol: Right, that has to be re -phrased. As recommendation 5 now stands,
I '.r.dsrstand that there be appointed department affirmative action officers
will remain. There will now be in addition to that a committee made up of
minority females, etc.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, somebody has to compile them together. Are we accepting
13 and 14 on the revision then? 14 says if recommendation 5 is implemented that
we have to cross that out.
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Mayor Ferre: You missed her point, you see Kenny Harrison sleeping back
there. Now he says he doens't wane any meetings unless he is president, and he
has oat light.
Ms. Nicol: Let me give you my rationale behind that sir. I have said
previously in these recommendations, that the final draft of the new plans
will be ready by the 31st of August. I don't want to be an appointment secretary
It has been my experience working with advisory groups; that if you give them
a produce, they can use that product to build on and develop,
Mayor Ferre: They have the right, just as much as anybody else in this
whole process to be involved in the process. I am not about to deny them that
r ght. o-i may not want to do it, and you may not want to be an appointment
secretary, then you a get yourself an appointment secretary,
Airs. Gordon: May I ask you a question Mr. Andrews, to see if you think
tbic is feasible, Would it be feasible in order to make your own department
comply to a degree if you had our affirmative action officer as one Of your
assistant managers?
Mr. Andrews: No,
Mrs. Gordon: Not to replace but to give a title to --wouldn't that be a
good way to start?
Mr. Andrews; No, not in this case,
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Mayor Ferret t think we have to assure these people that if there is
going to be a meeting dealing with any of these mattera, they are going to
be present,or they have the courtesy to be present, you do it by postcard, i
I don't care how you do t.
Mr. Charles Hail, f am ite agreement with what you are Baying. I want to
point alto two things that t failed to point out before. One is, that almost
all of these employee groups have a collective agreement with the City which
says that by agreement with the City, ratified by this coninission which says
that with exclusive representative of the employees in the area representing
wages, hours and other terns and conditions of employment, to the extent that
any action taken by the affirmative program encroaches on the terms and eonditiota
of employment and 1 think we are entitled to be there.
Manor Ferre: You are entitled to be there, as long as I am here and
I think my fellow commissioners feel the same way as I. do, and you are not
going to have any problem on that. No. 1
No. 2, be careful, because, don't forget that what the treasury and
Justice Department is telling you is that the federal law suits precedes
out own rules and regulations.
Mr. Hall: We understand that completely. That is the reason we took
action before the city.
Mayor. Ferre: You know how to rub it in, don't you? How do we stand on
14?
Ms. Nicol: Fine,
Manor Ferre: Any questions on. 13? I still stand that I want a definition
t� our C' ;,, Attorney as to what 'accelerates' numerical goals' means. I don't
what that eliminated from that.
Mr. Lloyd: I am preparing them -----
Mayor Ferre: What do we want a motion, Rose?
Mrs. Gordon: I am not sure how we are going to move it. We have two
dcurents , and changes and deletions.
Yzy or Ferre: The motion is that the Clerk is going to read from
the record all the statements that were made here, and work with the City Attorney
and put these two documents together, and Ms Nicol, I want her present at all, ----
you heard the sense of this commission,
?' . Nicol: Yes,
••iayor Ferre:--we are going to vote on it hopefully now, then refine it
"gain in September.
Mr. Havier Bray: Mr. Mayor, I think that if we fail to identify some
means to deal with the problem that you heard about just a moment ago, this
Mr. Holland, and you don't include in your resolution now, a recommendation
whereby the affirmative action officer can pursue some of the steps outlined
by the latter from the Department of Justice to discontinue testing programs
in consideration of education and other standards that are applied,
Mayor Ferre: That is her job,.--_---
'. c>:----that is right, and civil service has been doing that
and if :his commission does not address itself to the sacred cow of the whole
natter, then I think you are going to miss the boat and fail to comply with
responsibility ,---
Mayor Ferre: What is your recommendation, frame it,----
Mr. Bray: -the specific recommendations is that in the several points
13, 14, that you include a very specific address dealing with the civil service
commission and the steps outlined in the letter from the department of Justice,
Mayor Ferre: I'll add then for consideration Item 15, Which reads as
follows: 'this advisory tot 1ttee dealing with civil service tame back to the
cbt�tnisSiott at the September meeting, with recommendations, if any, as to how
alter sortie of the rules of civil service that may asbittt in affirmative action
itnpletnentatiotts. Is that broad enough? Is that specific etaouth.
Ms. Nicol: You assume there is an advisory board.
Mayor Ferre: That it set up in this thing here.
Ms. Nicol:--contingettt
Mayor. Ferre: I have my appointment right now. 1 atn ready to make my
appointment. You watt to accept that. You want to make a hibtiott tC that effect
that that be added.
Thereupon the (notion was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote of the
Comnission.(Mr. Plummer absent.)
Mayor. FErre: We are now ready to vote on the full document.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, wtto
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-727
A MOTION ESTABLISHING POLICIES WITH RESPECT TO
THE CITY OF MIAMI'S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer
AMEND ORD.2230
37. RETIREMENT SYSTEM
PERSONS DECEASED PRIOR TO SIGNING -
BE CONA1DERED TO BE RETIRED ETC.
ROVIDE 4U PAYMENT TO MEMBERS SPOUSE
LARIFYING 3O DAY RECUIREMENT ETC,
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Mrs. Gordon: This is important, because I am Chairman of the Plan,
and we have to deal with this matter very shortly at our next meeting and
it is necessary.
Y ,y,: Terre: Do you object to 36?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, but ----Mr. Mayor may
department has worked out what I believe is
come up with this after doing some research
make it possible for the Boards to react to
about Mrs. Gordon. But the ordinance itself
come to this ordinance, then you can decide
after that.
Gene.
I please help you? The law
a fine solution. Ron Silver has
and he has a resolution that will
the problem that you are concerned
, if you adopt this resolution and
what you want to do with the ordinance
Mayor Fer e: Why don't you explain it? Have you talked to Gene Naples about this?
Mr. Ron Silver: Yes, I have, this is
regarding the Mary Stein wetter
Mayor Ferre: Is this the lady, who,------
Mrs. Gordon; yes ,---R
Mayor Ferre: I have more priests calling me on that.
Mr. Andrews; This is what solved that probletg.
Mrs. Gordon; They roust have beep praying for him to find a eoution
because he found one,
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Mayor Perre: What is your solution for the lady's problem?
Mt. Silver; We drafted a revolution which is going to clarify the
intent of that 30 day waiting period. This will enable the board to go beck
and exercise a discretionary power which they will have, which they don't
have tow.
Mr. Lloyd: Mt. Mayor t would like th title of this ressolutiott read so
you will know exactly what you are doing.
Mr.Si1ver ----'this is a resolution clarifying the intent of the
City Commission pertaining to the provisions contained it section 2'91.14
and Sec. 2-109.14 of the Code of the City of Miami t'la. 1957 as A d. with
regard to the requirement that a beneficiary must survive 30 days after
election of an option allowance in order for said election to be effective'---
this is the 'whereas' clauses, —*whereas the Miami City Employees Retirement
System and the Miami City General Employees Retirement Plan vas ereated in
order to recognize loyal and faithful employees who continue a long period
of time as employees of the City of Miami, where as, an ambiguity has arisen
as to the purpose and intent of the requirement that a beneficiary must survive
30 days :after election of election of an optional allowance, in order for said
allowance to be effective as contained in 2-91.14 in those two sections, whereas
the connni.ssioi of the City of Miami believes it to be in the best interest and
welfare of the citizens and employees of theCitv of Miami, to clarify the purpose
and intent of said provisions, whereas the actuaries of the Miami City employees
retirement system snd plan have determined that the requirement of the 30 day
survival period has no actuarial effect, whereas the City Commission's intent
was clearly to provide the administration with sufficient time to prepare the
necessary paper work, now therefore be it resolved by the commission of the
City of. Miami, Florida, Sec. 1. The provision contained in Sec. 2-91.14 and
..10V.1.4 of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida 1957 providing a beneficiary
must survive 30 days after election of an option allowance in order for such
election to be effective, was to provide the administration sufficient time
to prepare the necessary paper wcrk. Sec. 2. That said 30 day period of time was
intended as a maximum time allowed within which the administraiton was to have
the necessary administrative details completed. Sec. 3. That if the administrative
work is completed prior to the 30 days after election of an, option allowance by
a beneficiary, then the survival period of time for the beneficiary shall be
reduced to the date upon which said administrative work is infect completed,
therefcre if the Board determines that the work was completed, within a 5 day
period of time, as in Mrs. Stein's case, then the 30 day provision will not as
to her
Mrs. Gordon: C'kay, I'll move the resolution.
Mr. Silver: This applies only to this particular case,
'irs. Gordon: It applies to the case involved..
Mr. Gene Naples: But there is another case it doesn't address.
Mayor Ferre: Are you satisfied with this?
Mr. Naples: No, sir, because if we are going to reach back and pick
up Mrs. Stein, and let's reach back and pick up Mrs. Gaudene,
Mayor Ferre: I agree with that.
Mr. Naples This does not do it sir.
Mayor Aerre: I don't see why you should do it for one and not the other,
Mr. Lloyd: This is the first we have ever heard of Mrs, Gaudene.
Mr, Silver: Did Mrs, Gaudene make applications Gene?
Mr, Nap] es • No.
Mr. Silver: Thst is the problem. That problem was addressed in 36,
Mr. Naples: That is not going to reach back and pick her up under 36,
Mayor Ferre: Gene, lase get this lady underway and then we will get
the other ottea 1 feel bad about this poor tout, and i feed bad about the
other one.
Mr. Naples: She is 14 months back there.
Mayor perre: Are we going to hold batik on this one because you want to
wait for the other one. Let' a vote on this, them tell what you want to do
for the other lady. You come up with a solution.
The following resolution was introduced by Co uiaeioner 'Cordon , who
moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 75-728
A RESOLUTION CLARIFYING THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE
CITY COMMISSION PERTAINING TO THE PROVISIONS CONTAINED
IN SECTION 2-91 (14) AND SECTION 2-109 (14) OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, 1957 AS AMENDED, WITH REGARD TO
THE REQUIREMENT THAT A BENEFICIARY MUST SURVIVE 30 DAYS
AFTER ELECTION OF AN OPTIONAL ALLOWANCE IN ORDER FOR SAID
ELECTION TO BE EFFECTIVE
(He're follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson , the resolution was
;messed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:Mr. keboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer
Mrs. Gordon: Now this matter will come to the Board for their determination
whether or not that case fits this resolution.
Mr. Silver: ---whether all the administrative details have been completed
and I can tell you they have been completed.
Mrs. Gordon: Exactly.
Mr. Napes: The simple solution would have been to amend or change this
resolution so it did encompass this other case.
silver: You can't make the ordinance retro active.
Mr. Naples: What are you doing in this case, you are reaching back and
pickint her up.
Mayor Ferre: Is that any way to solve this problem.
hr. Silver: I have to go over the facts with Gene, I'll do the same way
we did it in this case.
Mayor Ferre: what about 36, what are we going to do about that? You are
against it?
Mr. Andrews: Yes, because it is a $188,000, expenditure.
Mr. Naples; I don't believe it, ----
Mr. Andrews; Gene, this is an acturial study that was made and information
that was supplied.
Mr. Naples: I would like to know what it wag based on. I can't believe it,
because when you as member of the Board unanimously approved it at that time it
was mentioned, it was negligible ,
Mr. Andrews: That is right, then when we found out what the cost was, then
138 JUL 311975
l started taking a different attitude altogether, which t demonstrated last
tithe. Tease, 1 am willing to work with you, if we can achieve this within
a reasonable amount of 'Honey, fine,
Mayor Ferret 1 at going to vote for something,...,
Erg. Gordont I at going to move it because I`ll tell you why, the
figure you got is a hypothetical figure, how Many case§ doe§ this apply tt
in a period of a year, and $180,O00. in what period Of time are you talking
about?
Mr. Andrews: It applies to every employee, --if he is with the city
for 5 years, and can fall into a category and take advantage of,�
Mayor Fevre: The only Tway he can fall into the tategoty to by dying.
Mrs. Gordon: He would have to die, ----
Mr. Naples: We ate not talking about the 5 years, Mr. Andrews.
Mr. Andrews: I am saying anybody with the city 5 years is eligible
if he should die with the city.
Mr. Naples: Not the way I understand it, not under this ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: What does it say, 10 years?
Mr. Naples: When he becomes eligible for retirement.
Mr. Andrews: You mean to tell me that a man who comes to work with the
City c Miami at . years old and works for 6 years, and now he is over 55 years
old and he passes away, that he is not eligible, for retirement. He is eligible
for retirement at 55.
Mr. Naples: He would get about 8 dollars a month or something like that,
Mr. Andrews: He might have married a young wife see, and his beneficiary
would carry on for 5 years.
Mr. Naples: She is going to get married again and not eligible any more.
Mrs. t;ordor.: Mr. Lloyd you have to read this.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lloyd read the ordinance.
At. Andrews: I don't want to give the Commission any problems, but if you
this, you have to fund it also. Now, there is no money to fund it.
Mayor Ferre: That depends what we do with the budget.
Mr.. Andrews: Yes,
Mayor Fevre: You are not going to fund it immediately, it is pending
on funding after we get in the budget. We will worry about that when we get
into the budget. Let's get this one through.
Mr. Lloyd read the ordinance.
Mr. Lloyd read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SUBSECTIONS OF THE
MIAMI CITY EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM (ORDINANCE
NO. 2230, DECEMBER 6, 1939, AS AMENDED) AND THE MIAMI
CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT FLAN (ORDINANCE NO. 5624,
MAY 2, 1956, AS AMENDED); AS APPEARING IN CODIFICATION
FORM AS PART OF CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, 1957, AS WENDED, MORE PARTICULARLY AMENDING
SECTION 91 (14) AND SECTION 109(14) OF SAID CHAPTER 2
BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPH THERETO AT THE END OF SECTION
91.(14) AND BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPH THERETO AT THE
140 JUL. 33,1975
END OP SECTION 109 (4) ; PROVIDING THAT ANY MEMBER WHO
HAS BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR NORMAL SERVICE RETIREMENT BENEPITS
OR EARLY SERVICE RETIREMENT BENEFITS BUT WHO VAS NOT RETIRED,
btEs, SUCH MEMBER SHALL BE CONSIDERED TO HAVE BEEN RETIRED
oN THE DATE oP DEATH; PRoVtbED rORT'HEit 1'oR THE PAYMENT OF
!OR Y PERCENT (401) OF THE M IBER's MONTHLY RETIREMENT
ALLOWANCE UPON THE DEATH oP THE MEMBER TO THE MEMBER' S
SPOUCE: PROVIDING Ftil(THER AT oPTION FOR 'THE SURVIVING
SPOUSE TO RECEIVE THE SUM OF THE DECEASED MEMBER' S CON-
TRIBUTIONS WITH INTEREST; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE
SECTIONS oR PARTS THEREOF IN coNFLICT,INSOPAtt AS THEY
ARE TN CONFLICT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION;
DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE;
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME
ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN POUR`
FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
was introduced by Commissioner Gordon and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement
of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following
vote:
AYES:Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferree
NOLS: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer
ABSTAINING: None
Whereupon the Cc.::,missiou, on motion of Commissioner Gordon and seconded
by Commissioner Gibson adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer ABSTAINING: None.
SAib ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8431
Mayor Ferre: What else have you got?
Mrs. Gordon: 37,
Mr. Silver: There is no necessity for 37 because 37 was an alternative
to 36.
Mr. Lloyd: That is right.
Mayor Ferre: Why didn't we discuss 37, is that a better alternate?
Mr. Silver: What 37 does is do away with the 30 day requirement. That
was an l L _rnative if you did not pass this 36.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else that needs to come up today.
Unidentified person: Could I mention one thing on these two pension
ordinances, especially when my union heard of the figures, the disbursement
was going to cost, -
Mayor Ferre: They got worried?
Unidentified person; Very worried, and seeing the last negotiations
of the contract, the pension system was in the negotiations.
Mayo- 'Tetre; It is going to be part of the budget. At that time we
are going to have to discuss it.
Mrs. Cordon: Excuse me, Mayor, NO. 38 is an important,-.----
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opp $1'97'
SISTER C r Y 'PROGRAM r NG V I LLAWERMOSA, CAPITOL OF THE STATE OF
ABASCO, MEXICO IN SISTER CITY PROGRAM
Mr. Reboso: Regarding #19 Mr. Mayor, I have a proposal,
Mayor Ferre:All right, what is your proposal?
Mt. Reboso: Since the Sister City program has been a success between
Bogota and Miami, I propose that we pass a resolution of intent to make
Villahermosa, Capitol of the State of Tabasco in Mexico a Sister City of
Miami, and at the sage time leave open the option to make Suter Cities for
other cities.
Mrs. Gordon: What about that city in Spain, remember we had a representative
here.
Mayor Ferre: Letts not get into that.
Mrs. Gordon: I am just asking a question, remember, he tame here.
Mayor Ferre: Make a recommendation. There is a motion on the floor, it
leaves the door open for others,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO, 75-729
A MOTION OF INTENT TO INCLUDE THE CITY OF
VILLAHERMOSA, CAPITOL OF THE STATE OF TABASCO,
MEXICO, IN THE CITY OF MIAMI' SISTER CITY PROGRAM
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer.
Mrs. Gordon: What are dues in a Sister City Program?
?yorFerre: $300.00,-----
Mrs. Gordon: For every Sister City program?
Mayor Ferre: Iiow much, Mr. Andrews?
M- . r.nd rew s : $ 300. 00 and we are going to take care of " that. We are including
x .r n the next year budget.
JUL 311975
39, LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD - BRIEF DISCUSSION
Mayor Ferre: How about this Library membership. The other day Beverly
Phillips said you people don't even care, you have a vacancy and you don't
make appointments, why should you keep them? She is right, So come on.
Who do you want to appoint.
Mr. Li,.r&ws; I may have a misunderstanding, and Mr, Lloyd, will you listen
to this. From what I understand from the opinion that the City Attorney furnished
the City Commission, it sounds like you have to appoint a Library Board and 3
members of that library Board would serve on the Metro Board. Mn I wrong in that?
Mr. Lloyd: I don't remember now.
Mayor Ferre; That doesn't make any sense at ail, We don't have a library
so how can we have a library board.
Mr, Andrews: The agreerent, the very area where we have protection in that
agreement, ---on no, it was the County Attorney in his opinion, rendered thet, =..»
142JUL 311975
Mayor retreat floes each member gppoint�
Mr. Andrews: Apparently.
Mayor Ferre: Would you please tote prepared next tittle. This is the 3rd than
this matter has come up. t want this commission to be prepared at the next
meeting in September to appoint an library board.
Mt. Andrews: We furnished you all the information and a templets
list of recommendations.
Mayor Ferre We need some names.
Mr. Andrews: I got the names, they are all ltated in your book, they
were sent to you Mr. Mayor. If you will. look under 20 you will find a list
of about 9 or 10 names. Isn't it the same one?
Mayor Ferre: No, it is not the same one. That is not the same One at all.
Would you come up with some names and would you all work on that please.
Mrs. Gordon: How many names do we need?
Mayor Ferre: rive, one from each one, ----
Mr. Crt u h: Mr. Mayo;- I think that we reported to you we could
show you a way that you could make direct appointments to the County's
board as you: wish to, by a three -member board, and every time a vacancy occured
you reappoint a 3rd member to that board then would take that person.
Mayor Ferret We need to appoint 3 people.
Mr.
serving.
Crouch: ----three people, and possibly two of them are presently
Mayor Ferre: Would you all please try to come up with names.
!JL311975
PROVIDE F R REP�g IRS TO
40, AMD,APP,ORD. LAWRENCE STORM HUMPING STATION N0, 31
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE NO. 8316 ADOPTED OCTOBER 10, 1974 TO
PRUVIDE $9,000. FOR REPAIRS TO LAWRENCE
STORM PUMPING STATION NO. 31; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITR; PROVIDING
SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Gordon
for adoption n3 an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement
of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following
Vote
AY ,: Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor terra.
NOES: None,
ABSENT: Vice-M.yox Plummer
ABSTAINING: None
Whereat -ion the Commission, on motion of Commissloner Gibson and seconded
by Cowvissioner Gorgon adoptad said ordinance by the following vote.
AYES; Mr. Reboso, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre
NOES; NOne,
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Plummer ABSTAINING; None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO, 8432,
JUL1110/
1. ACCEPT COMPLETED
WORK
JUL 31 1975
ORANGE BOWL. STAb1UM"RESTROOM REMODELING 1974
The following resolution WAS introduced by ComMISsioner Rebosb,
who mbved its adoption
RESOLUTION No, 75-736
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PEAPO1 M b BY HISCAVNE
CONSTRUCTION, INC. AT A TOTAL COST bF $167, 277. S2 AND AUTHORIZ-
ING A FINAL PAYMENT OP $37►62S 95 POR THE ORANGE HOWL STADIUM -
ABSTROdMS REMODELING - 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer. Jr.
42, ACCEPT COMPLETED CENTRAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-33
WORK
Jul 31 1975
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-731
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF CENTRAL DRAIN-
AGE PROJECT E-33 AT A TOTAL COST OF $112,848.35 AND AUTHORIZING A
FINAL PAYMENT OF $13,215.29.
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
1.'yor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer,
Jr.
11 L 311975
43, ACCEPT COMPLETED S, W. 8TH STREET BEAUTIFICATION- PHASE 1
WORK
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 75-732
A RF.SOL'.T_ION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY D.M.P.
CUPPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $17,286.55 AND AUTHORIZING A
FINAL PAYMENT OF $6,745.53 FOR S.W. 8 STREET BEAUTIFICATION
PHASE I.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES; Commissioners Reboso, Gordon, and Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOES None.
ABSENT; Commi.ss.oner ,7.14, Plummer, Jr,
JUL 311975
JUL
44. ACC PTPK COMPLETED
IO
the following resolution % a introduced by eomminsioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
PARKS - HARD SURFACE COURTS
RESOLUTION NO. 7E-733
1974
A RESot1UTti N ACCEPTING TNE COMPETED HOAX PEAPOAMED BY P.J.
CONSTRUCTORS. INC. AT A TOTAL COST Or $11, 280, 00 AND AUTHOR..
RING A EtNAL PAYMENT OE $2. ,2eO.O0 FOR THE PAAXS HARD
SUR?ACE COURT 1974.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted hare and on file
in the Offtte of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by commissioner RebOsO# the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following (tote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. t'erre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
JUL 31 1975
45, ORDERING RESOLUTION DELAWARE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT q;5012 itS�i
The following r,.aiation was introduced by Commissioner Reboso
moved l.ts adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-734
who
A RESOLUTION ORDERING DELAWARE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5390 C
JEWER) AND DESIGNV..I ,.c; 7'7C2:ERTY AGAINST WHICH STh C•
IAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS
DELAWARE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5390 C (CENTERLINE
SEWER) AND ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR SAME.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: ',1mmissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
146, ORDERING RESOLUTION BISCAYNE WEST HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4390
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-735
A RESOLUTION ORDERING BISCAYNE WEST HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4390
AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS
SHALL BE MADE FORA PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS BISCAYNE
WEST HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4390; AND ALLOCATING THE
AMO!3N+ OF $5,000.00 FROM THE HIGHWAY BOND FUND FOR PRELIMINARY
EY.PZ NSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES; Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre NOES;
the resolution was
None,
,A.ASENT: Commissioner J, L. Plummer.
JUL 311975
47, MIAMI BASEBALL OF
The following reaoiut
moved its adoptions
MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE -DOWNTOWN CAMPUS
BASEBALL PRACTICE
Oh was introdueed by Commissioner C ibmon, who
RESOLUT1ON NO. 7S-736
A RESOLUTION ORANTINO USE OP THE MIAMI STADIUM BY MIAMI DADE
COMMUNITY COLtECE, DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, POR THE PURPOSE OP CON»
DUCTING ITS BASEBALL PRACTICE SESSIONS PROM SEPTEM BER g► 1 7S,
THROUGH AN= INCLUDING DECEMBER S, 10/S, SUB:ECT TO ADVANCE
PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS
BORNE BY THE CITY, AND AUTHOR/ZINO THE CITY MAMAGERt TO ENTER
INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE POR SAID
USE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYESt Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Terre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer
CITY AND DADE COUNTY
48, AUTHORIZE TRIAL GOLFING FACILITIES
RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT
The following resolution w%#9 introduced hCommissioner rorAon, who
roved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-737
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A TRIAL RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE CITY OF MIAMI AND DADE COUNTY, AND ANY LOCAL MUNICIPALITY
WITH GOLFING FACILITIES TO ALLOW THE EMPLOYEES OF THESE MUNICI-
PALITIES TO PAY ONE HALF PRICE OF THE REGULAR FEE, DURING THE
MONTHS OF JULY AND AUGUST.
JUL 311975
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file.
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
146
JUL 311975
•
491 AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF
OU / T CLAIM DEED
CORDON BROWNING AND OLGA BROWNING
The following veer iutibn wea introduced by ComMiasioner Gibbon, who
moored its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-715
A R'ESotUTION AUTNCRIEIHG THE CITY MANAGER TO T9RANSPER, EY 1T
CLAIM DEED, VHS ?DIMING bESCRIEEb REAL PROPERTY EEWN ING TO
THE CITY CO NWT. TO GORDON EROWNING AND OLGA ER( NIt4G HIS
WIPE: THE EAST 1/2 OR LOT 1, POMONA, AS RECORDED IN PLAT SOU
16, PAGE 75, OP THE PUELIC RECORDS of DADE COUNT, PLORIDA,
CONTAINING 3,596.25 SQUARE PEET, MORE OR LESS.
(Here fb1ioWs btdy of resoltatiori, omitted here and On file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Coinrissioner Reboso, the resolution as
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commnissioner Menolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Verre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
JUL 31 1975
50. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - JEANETTE T. WOLFSON) ATTORNEY RICHARD A. SADOW
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, Who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-739
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
TO PAY TO JEANETTE T. WOLFSON AND PHILLIP WOLFSON, HER HUSBAND,
AND THEIR ATTORNEY, RICHARD A. SADOW, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF
LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $1200.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT
OF THEIR CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR ALLEGED PERSONAL
INJURIES SUSTAINED BY MRS. WOLFSON, UPON THE EXECUTION OF A RE-
LEASE RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed ar. adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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Mff-
14 CLAIM S':TTLEMENT CAROLE LINDSEY AND ATTORNEY JOSEPH Tt WOODWARD
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner ebosa, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 7 740
A RESOLUTION AUT}#0RIZ1NS AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR Op puNAN
T RAY TO CAROLE =bStyY AND HER ATTORNEY, JOSNPH T. WOODWARD,
WITHOUT THE ADMISSION or tdIABILfl?, tmt sum OP $1200 IN PULL
AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT or HER CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY OP MIAMI
tOR ALLEGEb PERSONAL IN3'tltitirs SUSTAINED Bt HER, UPON THE EXECUT-
ION OP A RELEASE AELEASINO THE CITY or MIAMI OM ALL Cat S
AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here aid on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution Was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordof
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer
52. ENTER INTO A3REEMENT
J JL 31 1975
MANPOWER PLANNING COUNCIL FOR DADE & MONROE
MIAMI RECREATION SUPPORT PROGRAM FOR
DISADVANTAGED YOUNG RESIDENTS
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
AMA its adoption
IEJOLUTION NO. 75-741
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY MANAGER IN
ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE MANPOWER PLANNING
COUNCIL FOR DADE AND MONROE COUNTIES TO IMPLEMENT A MIAMI REC-
REATION SUPPORT PROGRAM FOR DISADVANTAGED YOUNG RESIDENTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibdon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
,lommissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayo_ Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer.
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PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES
53, ADvERTISF AND RECEIVE
PROPOSALS FOR PIXIE COMMUN'rYY PARK
The following resolution WaB iritr aduced by CetnirtiesiOner dibson, Who
tloved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75042
A RESOLUTION AUTHOAIZING AND DII C C'ING THE CITY MANAGER TO ADM,.
't'ISE FOR AND RECEIVE PROPOSALS FROM LANDSCAPE AACHITECTURE FIRMS
Its DADE COUNTY FOR PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES POA DIXIE C'OMMt N
ITY PARK LOcATEb AT 401 N.W. 12TFH STREET AND THE NEW CENTRAL
NEXGHB0t ioob PARK LOCATED AT N.W. 5TH AVENUE AND N.W. 1OTf STREET,
x0 SUBSEQUENTLY APPOINT A COMPETITIVE SELECT/ON COMMITTEE POR THE
PURPOSES OF REVIEW, EVAX,UATXON AND RANXING OP INTERESTED FIRMS Ii4
TERMS OP 'I'm IR Qt1ALt?tC.t0NS TO PERF'oRM NSEbEb SERVICES, Mb TO
NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH SAtb FIRMS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
it the office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer.
JUL 311975
54. APPOINT ADDITIONAL MEMBERS - ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE
The. :ollowing resolution was intrcd?sced by Commissioner ' oreon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-743
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING THREE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ASSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer
JUL 31 1975
55, AWARD BID - READY -MIX CONCRETE
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner. Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-744
t?I;;4ULUT.CON ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 14, 1975 FROM RINKER
N.:i'IERIALS CORP. FOR FURNISHING READY -MIX CONCRETE ON A CONTRACT
BASIS FROM DATE OF AWARD THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 1976, FOR THE PUB-
LIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AT $18.00 PER CU. YD., AT AN APPROXIMATE
ANNUAL COST OF $79,000.00, FUNDS BEING AVAILABLE IN THE 1974-75
AND 1975-76 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR THIS PURPOSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk,)
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Upon being seconded by CoTh ieeioner Gibsoh, the reso.Utitt5 Walt
passed aiia adopted by the following voter
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose cordon
Commissioner (Rev.) 'Theodore Gibson
Mayor Mautioe A. Perre NOESt None.
ADSEt4T# Cotnniseioner J. L. Plummer
56. AWARD BID - FORTY TONS OF F RTI LI Z R
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner be sop who
MO ed its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 75-745
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIb RECEIVED PROM P.E.C. FERTILIZER
COMPANY FOR FURNISHING FORTY TONS OP PERTILIZER FOR THE PAP
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT A TOTAL COST OF $4, 7g6. SC 1 =HOE-
IZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PUECNASING
DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS MM'ERIAL AFTER
FIRST DETERMINING THAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE POR THIS PURPOSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commdssioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
I SENT: C. 'm rsioner J. L. Plummer
JUL311975�_
57, AWARD BID - EMULSIFIED ASPHALT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, mho
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-746
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 1, 1975 OF JETCOAT
EMULSIONS FOR FURNISHING EMULSIFIED ASPHALT FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT, ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE YEAR FROM DATE OF AWARD,
AT $.30 PER GALLON FOR AN APPROXIMATE ANNUAL COST OF $60,000.00;
FUNDS PROVIDED FOR SAME IN THE 1974-75 AND THE 1975-76 FISCAL
YEAR BUDGET.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer.
150 JUL 3 1975
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58, AWARD BID ADDITIONAL FENCING FOR MARINE STADIUM STORAGE AREA
The ft llowinq resolution Wee introduced by COMMissioner G rdbft, Who
moved its adoption:
AOLUTlt N No. 75,747
A htsotutION ACCEPTING THE SID 1 CEIVFED PROM PENCE MASTHAt INC.
At A COST oP $5,E50.00 POR PUPNISNTNG ADDITIONAL PENCING FOR THE
MARINE STADIUM STORAOH AttEA POP THE Putt=C PACILITIE8 DEPAMMENTS
AUTHORs2ING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO It STAUCT THS PUP.
CHASING DEPAATMENT TO IStUk A PUttCHAst bRDEit POP TN#S MATE AL
USING Ft IibS PROM THE MARINE STADIUM FUNf, t3ALANCE POP THIS PURPOtt.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted hare and rift file
in the Office of the it Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution Wee
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Maholo Rebobo
Commissioner Pose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer
59, AWARD BID - TWO PORTABLE EKG TELEMENTRY PACKAGES
JUL 31 1975
FIRE DEPARTMENT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-748
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING TEE BID RECEIVED JULY 14, 1975 FROM
MOTOROLA, INC. FOR FURNISHING TWO PORTABLE EKG TELEMENTRY
PACKAGES FOR THE RESCUE DIVISION -OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT
A TOTAL COST OF $7,500.00; USING FUNDS PROVIDED FOR THIS
PURPOSE FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
t!ayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
.`:3SENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer
60, AWARD BID - PUMPS AND STARTERS FOR DEPT. OF PARKS AND RECREATION
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-479
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM HUGHES SUPPLY, INC,
FOR FURNISHING PUMPS AND STARTERS FOR THE MIAMI SPRINGS GOLF COURSE
FOR ITEM NO, 1 AT $7,950.64, ITEM NO. 2 AT $4,878.62, ITEN NO. 3
AT $978.18 AND ITEM NO. 4 AT $1,186.08, AT A TOTAL COST OF $14,893.52;
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PUR-
CHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT,
ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THIS PURPOSE,
(Here fgllows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution Was
Passed and adopted by the foliowf.ng vote-
AXIS; Mr. RebQso, Mars, Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer,
151 JUL311975
The following r olution was introduced by CONDiegioner AebOoo, who
moved it adoption:
RESOLUT/ON NO. 75060
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING tilt bib RECEIVED PROM ARIES MARINE CORg.
POPATION FOR INSTALLING PLAYGR.OtiNb EQUIPMENT AT SIX (6) PAM:
NAMELY GROVE MINI PAM(' PULLMAN PAM, XtRk MUNROE PAM, SAYAN
?AR, TRIANGLE PARR ANb 151ANCHt PARX AT A TOTAL eon OP $6,6S0.00
rok ITEMS 1, 2 ANb 1: AUTHORI2ING AND DIRECTING THE C/TY MANAM
To INsTRuCT THt PURCHASING DEPARTMENT to ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER
POR THIs EOUIPMENT; AtlioeltiNC rdNDS rPoM THt "PAM FOR PEOPLE"
PROGRAM PoR THIS PURPoSt.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and On file
in the Office of the city Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolUtiOn was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner C. L. Plummer.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-751
A MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE RENTAL FEE FOR BAYFRONT PARK
AUDITORIUM ON AUGUST 17, 1975, FROM 2 TO 11 P.M. FOR
THE PURPOSE OF RAISING FUNDS FOR MR. ORLANDO VALLEJO.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AXES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Terre NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer.
JUL 3 1 1975
62, AWARD
The ollowing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
FIRST • n, FSTREET PAVING PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 75-752
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF STONE PAVING CO. IN THE
ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $35,492.19 FOR S.W. 1 STREET PAVING
PROJECT - 1975; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $35,492.19 FROM
THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "HIGHWAY BOND FUND" TO COVER TEE
ESTIMATED CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE
AMOUNT OF $3,549.22 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE;
ALLOCATINGFROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $709.59 TO
COVER THE COST OF INCIDENTAL EXPENSE, AND AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM,
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here followe body of resaution, omitted here and eta
file ih the Office of the City Clerks)
Upoh being seconded by COMAissiorter Gibson, the resolution was
passed end adopted by the following vote -
Atom Reboso, Rev. Gibe0tt, Mre rdan and Mayor Perre
NOSS; None.
ARStMT: rtr. Rluirn1'er.
,.. ,JUL 311975
AWARD BID WEST GRAPELAND SANITARY SEWtR IMPROVEMENT SR-5387 G AND
The following resolution was introduced by ComMiseibner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-753
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM GOODWIN, INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,375,222.95 POR WEST GRAPELAND SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5387 C (centerline sewer) AND SR-5387
S (sideline sewer) IN WEST GRAPELAND SANITARY SEWER IMPROV-
MENT DISTRICT SR-5387 C (centerline sewer) AND ER-5387 S
(si%Ic ine sewer) ; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $2, 375,222.95
FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "SANITARY SEWER BOND FUND" TO
COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING PROM SAID ACCOUNT THE
ADDITXOAAL AMOUNT OF $197,522.30 TO COVER THE COST OF
PROJECT EXPENSE; FURTHER ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $37,504.75 TO COVER THE COST OF ADVER-
TISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, POSTAGE AND BLUEPRINTING,
AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITf
SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr, Reboso.
G't.
i4, AWARD BID - S, W. 8TH AVENUE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT SK-4387
in t 1. 31 1975
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 75-754
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF TROPICAL INDUSTRIES, INC.
I; 'ME AMOUNT OF $1,613.50 FOR S.W, $ AVENUE SIDEWALK IMPR-
OV:MENT SK-4387 IN S.W. 8 AVENUE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT SK-4387; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $1,613,50 FROM
"THE SIDEWALK BOND FUND" TO COVER THE COST; ALLOCATING rsom
SAID ACCOUNT THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $300.50'TO COVER TH
COST OF ADVEWTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES AND BLUEPRINTING;
AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EKECUT>J A CONTRACT WITH
SAID FIRM.
(Here followe body of xepolution, omitted liege and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk,)
153 JUL 311975
Upon being Aeconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution WAS
palmed and adopted by the following vote -
Mg! Rev, Gibson, Mrs, Gordon and Mayor Fargo.
NOES: gone
ASSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboaa, JUL 31 1
915
AMEND tabI8 4S APPROPRIATE $ 5)000 TO THE ACCOUNT OF
65. FED, ITV, SH i FUNDS
DOUGLAS GARDENS JEWISH Home & HOSPITAL FOR THE AGED
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 8345,
WHICH APPROPRIATED FEDERAL REVENUE SANG PUNTA,
TRANSFERRING $2,500 FROM EXTENSION OP RECREATION
PROGRAM, $5,000 PROM MECHANIZATION P tOOPAM, $2,500
FROM POLICE TRAINING PROGRAM, $5,000 PROM MODERN,
IZATION OP BUDGETARY AND PINANCIAL PROCEDURES AND
$5,000 FROM WILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT - CENTRAL
RECORDS SYSTEM, AND APPROPRIATING THE TOTAL CV
$ 25 , 000 TO THE ACCOUNT OF DOUGLAS GARDENS JEWISH
HOME AND HOSPITAL FOR THE AGED; PROVIDING AN EFFECT-
IVE DATE: REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CODE SECTIONS
IN CONFLICT THEREOF, INSOFAR AS THEY APE IN CONFLICT;
AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PRDVISION.
was introduced by Commissioner Gordon and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
ABSTAINING: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gordon and
seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
ABSTAINING- None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8433.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and anno»nced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
154
'JUL 811975
JUL ss 19/5
AMEND 0Rba8342 BANSFERRtNG FUNDS PROM WYNWOOD COMMUNITY DAY CAREb6, ISON LITTLE�RIVER SELF HELP COMMUNITY COUNCIL PROJI
YOUvk
Are ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMENCENCY ORDINANCE AMEND= ORDINANCE NO. S342
DATED DECEMEE1t 17, 1974, EY PSbUC1NC ITEM 19, WYNWOOD
COMMUNITY DAY CARE CENTER, FROM $40►00O TO $24,670
AND BY ADDING A NEW ITEM 31► 1;bIsON LITTLE RIVER SELF
HELP COMMUNITY CoUNCIL tROdECT YOUTH, WITH AN ALLOCAT-
ION OP $15,33Ot REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CODE SECT..
IONS IN CONPLICT THERM'', INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN COW.
FL/CT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; AND Pb'R
VSDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Cordon, for
adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
recittlirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Perre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mx. Reboso and Nit'. Plummer.
ABSTAINING: Notie.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and
seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr6. Gordon, R:tr. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOS: Nnr, .
ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
ABS2A NIt1G: None.
SAID W-VINANNCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. e434.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and announced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
JUL 311975
AUTHORIZE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
6%, TO ADMINISTER THE FACILITY KNOWN AS PROVIDINGFOR
"GUSMAN HALL" BOARD ETC.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, OR THEIR SUCCESSORS, TO ADMIN-
ISTER THE FACILITY KNOWN AS BUSMAN HALL LOCATED WITH-
IN THE CITY OF MIAMI; PROVIDING GUIDELINES TO. BE UTIL-
IZED IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF SAID FACILITY; PROVID-
ING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE CON-
SISTING OF FIVE MEMBERS, WITH MAURICE GUSMAN AS HONOR-
ARY CHAIRMAN, TO ADVISE SAID OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD
ON MATTERS OF POLICY CONCERNING THE OPERATION OF SAID
FACILITY; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; DECLAR-
ING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE; AND
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME
ON 'JWC SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR-
i'IFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
etas introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner
Cordon: for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which Was agreed
to by the t,Alowing vote
AYES; Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOES; None.
ABSENT; Mr, Plummer and Mr, Reboso.
ABSTAINING: None,
Whereupon the Cortnissi.on on motion of Commissioner Gibson and
seconded by Commissioner Gordon}, adopted said gr'dinanee by the foflQWln9
vote;
11Z5Z5 JWL 311975
AYES t Mrs, Gordon, hers. Gibson and Mayot Fette,
NODS 3 Mahe.
ABSENTMt. Plummet and Mt. Aeboso.
AESTAINIHG: t4ttt►e.
S ORDINANCE WAS. DEStG AThb ORDINANCE No a $.
The City Attorney read the ordit►aloe into the public record
and announced that copies were &Veilable to the members of the
City Cottu ission and to the public.
JUL 31 1915
RESOLUTION PROGRAMMING PURCHASE OF "FEINBERG TRACT° FOR THE
6i6, PROCEEDS FROM SALE OF CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENT/ON
VIRGINIA KEY LAND TO: CENTER
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson who
:totted its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. /5-755
A RESOLUTION PROGRAMMING THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE Op
THE VIRGINIA KEY SEWAGE DISPOSAL TO THE MIAMI-1ADE WATER
AND SEWER AUTHORITY TO ASSIST IN THE PURCHASE OP 'TITRE
PROPERTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE FEINBERG TRACT, AND THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION CENTER THEREON, SUPPLEMENT-
ING FUNDS PREVIOUSLY OBTAINED BY THE SALE OF CONVENTION
CENTER GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
69, RESOLUTION PROGRAMMING
UNENCUMBERED BALANCE
JUL 31 1975
$4,147,065,35 CONVENTION CENTER GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS F R ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY
KNOWN AS I'EINBERG IRACT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-756
A RESOLUTION PROGRAMMING THE UNENCUMBERED BALANCE OF
$4,147,065.36 CONVENTION CENTER GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS
AUTHORIZED BY RESOLUTION NO. 36153 ON NOVEMBER 18,,1974,
FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY IN THE DOWNTOWNAREA OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE FEINBERG TRACT,
AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION CENTER.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES; None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer. and Mr, Reboso.
156
JUL 311975
JUL ss 1975
70, ALLOCATE $15)330 TO EDISON LITTLE RIVER SELF HELP COMMUNITY COUN .tL
PROJECT YOUTH
The following resolution was .Ilitroduoe.. by Co.MMissioner Gibson, whb
Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-757
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TRE DIRECTOR OP /NANCE TO ALLOCATE
THE SUM nF $15, 330 TO Tt3E Ebr5ON LITTLE RIVER HELD' HELP COM-
MUNITY COUNCIL - PROJECT YOUTH.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file ih the Office of the city clerk.)
upon being seconded by Cotmnissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferree
NOS: Note.
ARSENTe Mr. Reboso and Mx Plummer,
AL 31 1975
RESOLUTION DEFERRING ITEM 12, JULY 31 AGENDA -CHANGES OF ZONING
AREA NORTHEASTERLY AVIATION AVENUE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AND S.BSH,DR
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-758
A RESOLUTION DEFERRING ITEM 12 OF THE JULY 31, 1975 CITY
COMMISSION MEETING ENTITLED COAN„ES OF ZONING AREA
NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE, BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVENUI
AND SOUT.II BAYSHORE DRIVE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
72, RESOLUTION PROVIDING NO
BUILDING PERMITS BE ISSUED
•
AREA GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS- J1 MUD
NELI...,y� AVIATION AVE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVE &
SO,ISH.JJR. UNTIL APPROVED BY COMMISSION
ETC,
The +ollowing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved 2% , adopt•ivn:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-759
A RESOLUTION PROVIDING THAT NO BUILDING PERMIT BE ISSUED
IN THE AREA GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS LOCATED NORTHEASTERLY
OF AVIATION AVENUE, BETWEEN TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE, AS SHOWN ON THE MAP ATTACHED HERETO AND
MADE A PART HEREOF, UNTIL IT IS FIRST APPROVED BY THE CITY
COMMISSION; SAID RESOLUTION SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR A
PERIOD OF 120 DAYS OR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE CITY COMMIS-
SION ACTS ON THE STUDY THAT IT HAS REQUESTED OF THE PLAN-
N!NG DEPARTMENT, WHICHEVER IS SOONER.
Were follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk,)
Upon being seconded by CoMmissi.oner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES; Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOES; None,
ABSENT; M. Reboso and Mr, Plummer.
e
AUTHORIZE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
TO RECONSIDER
JUL a 1 19/5
AREA NELY AVIATION AVE BETWEEN TIGERTAIL
AVEI AND SDASH,DR1 TO DETERMINE IF
AREA SHOULD RE PLACED IN SPECIAL
OVERLAY DISTRICT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 'S s
A RESOLUTION AU'11ORI2ING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLAN,
NINE ADVISORY BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE AREA ON TN2 MAP
ATTACHED HERETO, WHIM IS GENERALLY DESCRIDED AS LOCATED
NOR'1 EAsTEi LY OP AVIATION AVENUE, SEMEN TIGER "AIL Aim
AND sOUTH RAYSHOR2 DRIVE, TO DETERMINE WHETHER SAID ARRA
SHOULD HE PLACED IN A SPECIAL OVERLAY tONING DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, ogitted here and on
file in the Office of the City clerk,)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution WAS
passed and adopted by the following Vote-
AYSSt Mrs, Gordon, Bev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES; None.
M : Mr. ?1inuner and Mr. Reboso,
JUL 31 1975
74, RESOLUTIONS CONFIRMING MOTIONS MADE AT LAST MEETING
Me following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-761
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
TO THE YOUTH HONOR DAY COMMITTEE FOR THE EVENT WHICH WAS
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5, 1975; SUBJECT TO THEIR PAYMENT
OF THE COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSUR-
ANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 75-762
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
TO THE MIAMI COMMUNITY POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION'S
ANNUAL POLICEMEN'S BALL TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, JULY 19,
1975, SUBJECT TO THEIR PAYMENT OF THE COST$ BORNE BY THE
CITY FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon,
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Mr4 , Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
WAS; None.
ABSENT; Mr. Plummer and Mr, Reboso,
158
the resolution was
JUL 311975
The following rebo2.t Lion was introduced by dommissioner Gibson, who
riled its adoption:
i SbLUT ON N0, 15.063
A RSSbt tJTtON GRANTING PABB On Off' WATSON /SLAM VOA A
EICSNPBNNLA,L PtC fC OBSSRVANCE To tt nib ON ?MAY*
at m 4, 1975: StisSECT TO BAYMt NP POR VONT pE S-0M L
tt S tlANCE AND t US i btt CT COSTS BOABY THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file ih the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Cotfxni.ssioher Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following Vote.
AYES: 2eV. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Fetre
NOS : None ►
WENT: Mr. Plurhmer and Mr. Reboso.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75=764
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT AUDITORIUM
FOR A PUERTO RICAN DAY CELEBRATION TO BE HELD ON JULY
25, 1975: SUBJECT TO PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSUR-
ANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY.
{Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-765
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING JULIA TIGER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
THE STATUS OF WOMEN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed'ani adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-766
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE MINI PARK AT
AND BRICKELL PLAZA, MIAMI AS ALLEN MORRIS
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
S.E. 10TH AVENUE
PARK.
here and on
Upon being seconded by Commissioner tJordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AM: WO, Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre,
NOHS; None,
ABSENT; Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso,
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e following resolution wab introduced by oommissiaheGibson, who
Moved its adoption
RESOLUTION NO, 75=767
A RESOLUTION GATING FREE USE of kobEAR' KING HIGH PARK ?ok
A BOY SCOUT CAMPOUT ON JUNE 21, JULY 10, AUGUST 22, AND
AUGUST t s 24, 19751 SUBJECT To PAYMENT ?tit EVEN' PERSONNEL,
INSURANCE AND Oak DIRECT COS!s BORNE BY THE CITY,
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and Oh
file ih the Office of the City clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following Vote
Aral Mrs, Gordon, N'{eV. Gibson and Mayor Ferre.
NODS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. P1Ummer.
TO INCLUDE POSITIONS OF:
SSISTANT CITY CLERK
75, ORDINANCE AMEND ORD.223O ASSISTANT EXEC,SECRETARY-CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
ASST►EXEC.SECTY `PLANNING BOARD
Mayor ?erre: You're objecting?
Mr. Prank Williams: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: What is this? I thought this was a non -controversial thing.
Mr. Williams: I gave the commissioners and the Mayor copies of my opinion that
this was violating my contract.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, this matter will be deferred until we have a full commis-
sion here for discussion,
Mr. Williams: Thank you.
76. OF CONTRACT
JUL 31 1975
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS CLAIM ADJUSTOR
PAUL WEBER
"CLAIMS SUPERVISOR"
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-768
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MR. PAUL WEBER TO PERFORM PROFES-
SIONAL SERVICES AS A CLAIMS SUPERVISOR FOR A PERIOD OF ONE
YEAR BEGINNING ON THE 1ST DAY OF AUGUST, 1975 ANI) TERMINAT-
ING ON THE 31AT DAY OF JULY, 1976, WITH $17,400 AS THE FEE
FOR SUCH SERVICE, TO BE DISBURSED FROM THE SELF-INSURANCE
PROGRAM FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Couunissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev, Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES. None,
ASSENT. Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso,
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LACING
REQUEST _CITY ATTORNEY FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT FRANCHISE FEES IN ESCROW
771 TO WITHDRAW MOTION FURTHER URGING PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO
EXPEDITE FRANCHISE FEES AND RULE ON QUESTION
The following resolutions was introduced by Commissioner Gibson,, whb
moved LtS adoption
PtSoLUTION NO. 75 769
A AtSOtUTION 1EQUtSTING THE CITY ATToPtitY TO WITHbAAW T'HE
MoTION PLACING FLORIDA t'OMER AND LIGHT r1 ANCHISE FEES IN
AN RSC OW ACCOUNT: AND PUP'HER UkOING THE FLOkubA PUSLIC
SERVICE COMMISSION TO EXPtbtTE THE GENSRAL INVESTIGATION
OF FRANCHISE FEES AND ktYLE ON TM/S QUSSTION AS SOON AS
t'oSS IBr.E .
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote=
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Pierre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mt. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
JUL 31 1975
78, RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED TO "GUSMAN HALL"
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-770
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE DIED TO GuSMAN HALL FROM MAURICE
GUSMAN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mx. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
J U L 31 1975
79, MERRILL-STEVENS LEASE - BRIEF DISCUSSION
'•_r. Lloyd. 'li`_h regard to 'terrill-Stevens versus City o `tiani, on tye lease
situation the court ruled in favor of Merrill -Stevens holding that they have
a right under a contract to renew their 10 year lease. That gives them 9 years
to go. We feel at this time that, and George Knox our contract expert handled
the case, he recommends, I concur that we do not appeal said decision.
Mrs Gordon: Why?
Mr, Lloyd: Because there were three contracts. The last contract which is what
the court ruled was the valid one did not contain the clause allowing us to cancel
the contract upon six months notice. It is up to you, if you instruct me to appeal
we will.
161
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NATION EN INTENT TO AU U T , 1 7 MRON O F
$C�� WADE RENTAL FAR �tVIG �Tt�N �F �I.�JRIt�Afr
BAYPRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
Mayor Perret We've gnat a Letter here from Ellis tomes, Civie Aotion or something.
They want on Saturday, the 2Ird day of August the use of Hayfront park Auditorium
beeause all the Uhion people, the Latin unions are going to have a meeting of...
Mrs. Oordont They want to use it. They pay the costs of the things., I'll move it.
Mayor Ferret He ;says he wants permission to uee. . Yes. On the g ird of August
if it's available at 4t00 O'Clock. All the Cuban uniOhs.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordo; , who
rtsved its adoption:
MOTION No. 75i 771
A MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE MENTAL FEE POR oat OP SAYFRONT PAM
AUDITORIUM ON AUGUST 23, 1075, raft A MEETING OF CIVIC ACTION OF
PLOR DA.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
JUL 31 1975
HIS CITY ATTORNEY REPORT ON F.E.C. CONDEMNATION - BRIEF DISCUSSION
Mr. Lloyd: ".ter. •4a!?or, One more thin,:. With re^arA to the ori^ion of the
Supreme Court on the F.E.C. case unless the commission instructs me otherwise
I think I've communicated with you orally on this, I do not intend to file a
petition for rehearing - accepting it as it is. WE will expect a petition for
rehearing, of course, from the railroad. The city, I recommend that we be satis-
fied with what we've got.
Mayor Ferre: We came out alright.
Mr. Lloyd: That's right, I'm just informing the commission
ADJOU�W'�D':
HERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE C I1' c1ISS ON, ON
MOTION DULY MADE AND SECONDED, THE MEETING' WAS ADJOURNED AT Jt C'I.LOCK �.I"I�
ATTEST: H. D, SOUTHERN
CITY CLERK
RALPH G. ONGIE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
162
M4UR I CAAFERRE
JUL3fl91
CI'�'Y OF M�IAMI
DOCUMENT
INDE
ITEM NO DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
2
10
12
13
14
15
COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF
GOODWIN, INC.
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
D.M.P. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF
$28,689.40
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY
GRANTING PERMISSION, AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE
NO. 6871, ARTICLE IV, SECTION 32 FOR CONSTRUC-
TION OF INTERCEPTOR VENT STATION ON E40, LOT
C, BLOCK 1, SILVERSON AND TATUM'S DRIVE AT N.
W. 3RD STREET.
ADOPTING THE STUDY ENTITLED NORTHEAST COMMUNI-
TY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, SUBJECT
TO CERTAIN AMENDMENTS.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT ATTACHED
HERETO AND MADE A PART HEREOF, FOR THE PUR-
CHASE OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY IN THE DOWN-
TOWN AREA OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM THE
FEINBERG FAMILY.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM PROPERTY
MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 29, 1975 OF
MINORITY SYSTEMS, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF SOLO AIR CONDITIONING
& HEATING CO., INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF OVIDIO P. RODRIQUEZ, JR.
IN THE AMOUNT OF S78,750 FOR PARKS -SHELTERS
& COMFORT STATIONS-1975 (ITEMS 1 & 3)
ACCEPTING THE BID OF AD-A-LITE ELECTRIC, INC.
CLARIFYING THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE CITY
COMMISSION PERTAINING TO THE PROVISIONS CON-
TAINED IN SECTION 2-91 (14) AND SECTION
2-109(14) OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
BISCAYNE CONSTRUCTION, INC,
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF CEN=
TRAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-33 AT A TOTAL COST OF
$112,848,35
COI++IISSION RETRIEVAL
ACTION CODE NO..
R-75-699
R-75-700
R-75 701
R-75-702
R-75-705
R-75-711
R-75-717
R-75-718
R-75-719
R-75-723A
R-75-7238
R-75-728
R-75-730
Rw75-731
0051
75-699
75-700
75-701
75-711
75-717
75-718
75-719
75-723A
75-7238`
75-728
75-730
75=731
�� Sis�is
TD4
No,
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
UMENI4N DEX
DOCU ENT DE T MAT ON
CONTINUED
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED tVORit PERPORMED BY
D.M.P. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF
$17,286.55
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED VORX PERFORMED BY P.J.
CONSTRUCTORS, INC.
ORDERING DELAWARE_SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
SR-5390-C
ORDERING BISCAYNE VEST HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
H-4390
GRANTING tJSE OF THE MIAMI STADIUM BY MIAMI
DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DOWNTOWN CAMPUS.
AUTHORIZING A TRIAL RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT BE-
TWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND DADE COUNTY, AND
ANY LOCAL MUNICIPALITY WITH GOLFING FACILI-
TIES
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER, BY
QUIT CLAIM DEED, THE FOLLOWING DESCRIBED REAL
PROPERTY BELONGING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY
TO JEANETTE T. WOLFSON AND PHILLIP WOLFSON
WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM
OF $1200.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT
OF THEIR CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO
CAROLE LINDSEY AND HER ATTORNEY, WITHOUT THE
ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $1200 IN
FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF HER CLAIM
AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI
CONFIRMING THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY
MANAGER IN ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT BY AND
BETWEEN THE MANPOWER PLANNING COUNCIL FOR
DADE AND MONROE COUNTIES.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE
FOR AND RECEIVE PROPOSALS FROM LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTURE FIRMS IN DADE COUNTY FOR PROFES-
SIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR DIXIE COMMUNITY
PARK,
APPOINTING THREE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE
ADVISROY COMMITTEE ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 14, 1975
FROM RINKER MATERIALS CORP.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM F,E,C, FER-
TILIZER COMPANY FOR FURNISHING FORTY TONS OF
FERTILIZER FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DE-
PARTMENT.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY ' T, 1i75 OF
JETCOAT EMULSIONS,
R-75-732
R-75-733
R-75-734
R-75-735
R-75-736
R-75-737
R-75-738
R-75-739
R-75-740
R-75-741
R-75-742
R-75-743
R-75-744
R-75-745
R-75-745
RETR1EvAr
75-732
75-733
75.734
75-735
75-736
75-737
75-738
75-739
75-740
75-741
75-742
75-743
75-744
75-745
75-745
CU).1EN14 N DEX
CONTINUED
wimmommw
NO, DO VENT tDeNi`ZPICAT1DN
ememomm
35
36
37
38
39
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM PENCE
MASTER, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JULY 14, 1975 FROM
MOTOROLA, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM HUGHES SUP-
PLY, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM ARIES MARINE
CORPORATION FOR INSTALLATING PLAYGROUND EQUIP.
MENT AT SIX (6) PARKS.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF STONE PAVING CO.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM GOODWIN, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF TROPICAL INDUSTRIES, INC
PROGRAMMING THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THE
VIRGINIA KEY SEWAGE DISPOSAL TO THE MIAMI
DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY
PROGRAMMING THE UNENCUMBERED BALANCE OF
$4,147,065.36 CONVENTION CENTER GENETAL
OBLIGATION BONDS.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ALLO-
CATE THE SUM OF $15,330 TO THE EDISON LITTLE
RIVER SELF HELP COMMUNITY COUNCIL -PROJECT
YOUTH
DEFERRING ITEM 12 OF THE JULY 31, 1975 CITY
COMMISSION MEETING ENTITLED CHANGES OF ZONING
AREA NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE.
PROVIDING THAT NO BUILDING PERMIT BE ISSUED
IN THE AREA GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS LOCATED
NORTHEASTERLY OF AVIATION AVENUE.
AUTHORIZING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ADVISORY
BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE AREA ON THE MAP AT-
TACHED HERETO.
GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITO-
RIUM TO THE YOUTH HONOR DAY COMMITTEE FOR
THE EVENT WHICH WAS HELD ON JUNE 5, 1975
GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITO-
RIUM TO THE MIAMI COMMUNITY POLICE BENEVO-
LENT ASSOCIATION ANNUAL POLICEMEN'S BALL
TO BE HELD JULY 19, 1975.
GRANTING FREE USE OF WATSON ISLAND FOR A
BICENTENNIAL PICNIC OBSERVANCE TO BE HELD
JULY 4, 1975,
GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT AUDITORIUM FOR
A PUERTO RICAN DAY CELEBRATION,
R-75-747 75-747
R-75-748
75-748
R-75-749 75-749
R=75-750
R-75-752
R-75-753
R-75-754
R-75-755
R-75-756
R-75-757
R-75-758
R-75-759
R-75-760
R-75-761
R.-75-762
R-75-763
R-75 -764
75-750
75-752
75-753
75-754
75-755
75-756
75-757
75-758
75-759
75-760
75-761
75-762
75-763
75-764
5o
51
52
bOCUN
U)AENTIND
CONTINUE
COPAISgI0
E�J1 ;DENT/fleet N t4_
APPOINTING JULIA TIGER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
THE STATUS OF WOMEN
DESIGNATING THE MINI PARK AT S E, 1'OTH
AVENUE AND BRICKELL PLAZA, MIAMI AS MORRIS
PARK
GRANTING FREE USE OF ROBERT KING HIGH PARK
FOR A BOY SCOUT CAMPOUT ON JUNE 21.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
CONTRACT WITH MR. PAUL WEBER TO PERFORM
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS A CLAIM SUPERVISOR
REQUESTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WITHDRAW
THE MOTION PLACING FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT
FRANCHISE FEES IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT.
R-75-765
R=75-766
R-75-767
'RIEV L
t 015t, NO
75-765
75-766
75767
R-75-768 75-768
R-75-769
75-769