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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1975-05-22 Minutesi NCOHY' uHATED 1870 96 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 22. { A. OBJECTIONS TO CONFIRMING RESOLUTION P1ag2.er` Street Highway Improvement t H-4372 MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS Mayors visit to Washington b.C. National Endowment of the Arta Etc. c. GRANT PERMISSION TO CONSTRUCT BUILDING Tract "C" Moore Park -Miami Dade Wat & Sew.Avths APPROVE APPLICATION ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, DISTRICTS TO CERTAIN PARCELS OF LAND BALTIMORE BASEBALL CLUB INC AGREEMENT USE of Miami Baseball Stadium EXECUTE CONTRACT TOUCH, ROSS & CO.- EXTERNAL AUDITORS AMEND CHAPTER 58—TRAVEL BUREAUS -DELETE Sec58.E SUBMIT FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION COMMUNITY EVALUATION OF POLICE PROGRAM EFFECT AUTHORIZE WASTE COLLECTION PERMIT ALONSO BROTHERS TRASH SERVICE DENY CERTAIN CLAIMS FILED AGAINST THE CITY PROVIDE DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSED BUDGET DEPARTMENT OFF-STREET PARKING AWARD BID- FASHION HIWAY IMPROV. H-4381 A&B AWARD BID- ATHALIE RANGE PARK -Comfort Station AWARD BID FERTILIZER AWARD BID - WESTERN DRAINAGE PROJECT E-34, AWARD BID - FERN ISLE SOUTH FORK PARK COMFORT STATION AND BASKETBALL/TENNIS COURTS RECEIVE SEALED BIDS -GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4374 and GARDEN:SANITARY SEWER IMP.SR5385 CS PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF 41 UNIT APT. BLDG. MARCELLUS DEARBORN SUB- 2000 S. W. 17 AVENUE PROPOSALS OF METRO TRAFFIC & TRANSPORTATION DEPT. TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN AREA OF BAY HEIGHTS, NATOMA MANORS ETC. CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION- PHASE I COCONUT GROVE SONING STUDY AMEND CITY CODE -ESTABLISH AREA AT MARINE STADIUM FOR UTILIZATION OF CAMPER -TRAILERS' AMEND CITY CODE- REQUIREMENTS FOR TREE REMOVAL R75-474 1 7=8 R75-475 FIRST READ. R75-476 R75-477 ' 10 R75-478 R75-479 1 10 R75-480-1 R75-482 R75-483 R75-484 R75=485 13 R75-486 ` 13 R75-487 M75-488 M75-489 M75-490 19=31 ORD.8402 32=35 ORD.8403 35 ORD.8404 36 1t9hoill CI ffldiECELNEaR11,14 twice Mari V; ., PAGE 24. 25. 26. 27. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36 PRESENTATIONS, PLAQUES CERTIPICATES ETC, MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS BY RICX SISSER LEGISLATIVE LIASON= TALLAHASSEE "A" LETHAL YELLOWING 0110 it C 1i ITO fEn RESORT TAX BILLS DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TAX ABATEME INTERAMA SENATE BILL 321 JUVENILE FACILITY 27 AVE & 36 ST. ACCEPT PLAT — SALAR SUBDIVISION PERSONAL APPEARANCE- BETTY HAYES ALLEN PERMITTED HEIGHT OF HEDGES —RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PERSONAL APPEARANCE- YIANNIS B. ANTONIADIS EXTEND FOUNDATION OF CONSTRUCTION 3' INTO ALLEY DINNER KEYEXPOSITION HALL EVALUATION- AUTHOR- IZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTATE ENGINEERING STUDY' DISCUSSION ITEMS - VICE MAYOR PLUMMER ITEMS 1. PAYMENT FOR VIRGINIA KEY PROPERTY 2. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR CONVENTION HAL MARINE SERVICING FACILITIES - DINNER KEY PERSONAL APPEARANCE: MERRILL STEVENS AND GROVE KEY MARINA FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS $19,000 LITTLE RIVER SUMMER SOCIAL SERVICES YEAR END ENCUMBRANCE- AFRICAN SQUARE PROJECT MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD DEVELOPMENT CORP AUTHORIZING MANAGER TO CONTRACT FOR OPERATION OF M.L.K.BLVD. PERSONAL APPEARANCE- GARRETT SLOAN MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY REGARDING $112,000 PAYMENT TO CITY FOR PROPERTY NEEDED BY STATE FOR RIGIHT OF WAY VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS- REQUEST TO PLACE COMMERATIVE PLAQUE IN BAYFRONT/BICENTENNIAL PARK MULTI —CULTURAL FLOAT- 1976 ORANGE BOWL PARADE DESIGNATION OF MIAMI AS 2ND OLDEST SETTLEMENT IN UNITED STATES- INVESTIGATE FACTS REFER TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT RESTAURANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHARTER CLUB M75-491 R75--492 R75-493 M75-494 R75-495 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION M75-496 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION 8405 ORD.NO. 8406 8407 R75-49 7 M75-498 36 37=46 46 47=49 49=50 50=68 68=69 69=77 77(A) 77 78 79=80 DISCUSSION 80=85 M75-499 M75-500 85=88 M75501 88=89 M75-502 89 rND 14 NE Zan ITEM NO. SUBJECT t1Ce oft SOLUTIUN O 4 PANG. 37, WAIVE RENTAL PEE -BAYPRONT PARR AUDITORIUM U. S. MARINE CORPS - "TOYS POR TOTS" Xma8 party 38. PERSONAL APPEARANCE - MR. MIGUEL LLORET CHAIN LINK FENCE ENCROACHING ON CITY PROPERTY 39. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - HOWARD HhDLR Y Eminent domain proceedings 40. ART COR NEW POLICE IfEADQUARTERS BUILDING 41. I "911" TELEPHONE SYSTEM INSTALLATION APPOINT COMMITTEE- WORLD AMATEUR BASEBALL FEDERATION BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARDS PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION OF COUNTY ORDINANCES Approve City Manager's Memorandum EVALUATION OF CITY TRI-CULTURAL PROGRAMS Negotiate agreement with Avelio & Associates MEMBERS OF ` LII3RARY ADVISORY I3oARD Proposed deletion of residency requirements PROPOSEI) PARKING FACILITY UNDER I-95 Approve concept of development REQUEST METRO TO INSTALL TRAFFIC DEVICES FOR 60 DAY TRIAL PERIOD: BAY HEIGHTS AREA,•NATOMA MANORS ETC. LITTLE RIVER ZONING STUDY DEFER CONSIDERATION OF REIMBURSE NORA SWAN, CHAIRPERSON OF THE, BICENTENNIAL COMMITTEE FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES 51. IGRANT FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM NATURALIZATION CEREMONIES 52. CHANGE DATE OF OFF STREET PARKING AUTHORITY BUDGET CONSIDERATION ADJOURNMENT M75503 DISCUSSION R75504 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION R75-505 M75-506 DISCUSSION M75=507 M75-508 M75-509 R75-510 R75-511 R75-512 R75-513 R75-514 DISCUSSION 90 90 90 91=96 96 97 97=99 99 99 99 100 100 101 101 101 102 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF HE CITY COMMISSION Of MIAMI, FLORIDA *****M*** ON THE 22ND DAY OP MAY,1975, THE CITY COMMISSION OF ALLApIAMIA 3 UU PAN AMER I CANAT TDRRI REGULAR I AM I , FLOR I DA I N NG PLACE IN REGULAR CITY SESSION. THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 9:12 O'CLOCK A.M. BY MAYOR MAURICE A. FERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT: COMMISSIONER M NOLO REBOSO CER ROE CORDON DMMISSIPNER ( EV) HEODORE bIBSON OMMISSIO I MAYORoR MAURICE . L. ALUMMER. ERRS JR PA W. ANDREWS, CITY MANAGER A. P. LROUCH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER JOHN S. LLOYD. ,TY ATTORNFY RALPH G. ONGIE, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK AN INVOCATION WAS DELIVERED BY REVEREND bIBSON WHO THEN LED THOSE PRESENT IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. A MOTION TO WAIVE THE READING OF THE MINUTES WAS INTRODUCED AND SECONDED AND WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. H-4372 1. OBJECTIONS TO CONFIRMING RESOLUTION FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT Mayor;Ferre: Are there any obiections to confirming the orderna of resolution 75-365 for the Flagler Street Highway Improvement? Will the administration ex- plain? This is item #3. Mr. Vince Grimm: Mr. Mayor, this is a project for decorative sidewalks and re- surfacing of Flagler Street and in addition resurfacing of Flagler Street and in addition resurfacing first street from roughly the railroad' tracks to the boulevard. We have members here of the Chamber of Commerce and the Downtown Development Authority and some downtown businessmen who actively supported this project and without their help maybe the city wouldn't have been able to move so smoothly. Mr. Plummer: What is the approximate cost? Mr. Grimm: We're limiting the cost on Flagler Street to $15.00 a foot and the cost on S. First Street would be about a dollar a foot. This is the cost to the property owners. Mr. Plummer: And what will the city cost be? Mr, Grimm: About $300,000. Mr, Plummer: $300,000, What will it include besides decorative sidewalks? Mr, Grimm; Resurfacing of the pavement on Flagler Street and just resurfacing of the pavement on 5. First Street. Oh, we're going to do some other amenities such as we're working in conjunction with Florida power and Light; ell of the poles on Flagler Strreet will be removed, all of the wiring on Flagler Street will be placed under ground. We hope to solve several of the little drainage problem that exist now as the result of roof drains, We're going to de some itit'reased lat°idgeaping it the ihtettectiet s like me haste NW at £iret AVehUe and P1agler Street. 'What will cohtihiie On teeohd Avehue and ai.ss Miama. Amen ea Mr. iummbr Why did you etop at first AveM e/ Mr. ttitmn: Yo-u Ticah to the went Mr. 'Plummer: yet;. Why didn't you take it right t6 the rivet Mr. Orion: Well, at the time,.., Mt. Plummer: You're only talking about a block and a half tore, Mr. Grin Yes. At the time our reeling was that the GOVerhment Center Oh the north aide of Plagler Street was in such a state of flux that we didn't know what would develop there. There have been some petitions for people on the Western edge of t'iagler Street to be included; those of us that partici- pated in this felt that that could be done subsequent y and didn't have to be done right now. Mr. Plummer: what would be the additional cost to carry it down to the river, city's cost? Mr. Grimm: I can't answer that to you, Commissioner Plummer, I don't know right now. It would be in the same rough foot basis, however. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I' think that if we're going to do that much area I think that the city ought to carry it on down to the river. Downtown in my estimation has always been to the river, from the Boulevard to the river and I can't see doing that much of it which is the major, portion or 80-85% and then leaving that 15% out. Mayor Ferret Have we got the funds to do that, Mr. Andrews? Mr. Andrews: Yes, we have if we choose to continue it on down to the river. Mayor Ferre: I would say that that is a very good recommendation for many many reasons. Mr. Grimm: I would like to suggest this then, Mr. Mayor, you could go ahead and confirm this and instruct me to create a supplemental district on this and I could just come back to you... Mr. Plummer: Under one contract. Ok. Because that way you get the buying power ... Mr. Lucius Williams: Instead of going to the river because all of that property west of the expressway on Flagler Street is in one ownership and is subject to demolition. That owner is the one that we're working with to develop that area. 1 Mr. Plummer: To the expressway. Mr. Williams: To the expressway rather than to the river. Right, to the parking under the expressway rather than to the river because it makes no sense to go by that property that is going to be demolished. Mr. Plummer: I agree. Mayor Ferre: We understand. You're right. And by the way, as Lucius pointed out: a little while ago I think there is an indication where the people on Flagler Street, the merchants and the property owners have come to us to request this rather than the reversal which is sometimes the case where we go out and do things and the property owners are all upset and they object. So this is a re- versal of that, The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption; RESOLUTION NO, 75-471 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION NO. 75-365 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO ADVERTISE FOR SEALED 'BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4372 IN FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4372, MAY 2 2197 Mere fol2owe body of reco .utiont ol`tiitted its the Office bt the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Coi 1'►isSither Gibson paw- and and adopted by the following Vote Aith:g: eon i+ssibtef Mehblb RebbA6 COMMissibher dose Gordon CoMmiteibner May.) 'Theodore Gibson Viet Mayor . t. Plummer, dr. Mayor Maurice A. perre Mayor Berta: t forgot to ask if there are any opponents to St I'm sorry. i didn't see anybody stand up but for the record, are there any opponents tor item #1 Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor,, it should be with, I hope it is understood Mr. Plummer's addition. Let me make sure that's said.' Mayor Perrot Oh yes. That is clearly understood and part of the record. 2. MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS: MAYOR'S VISIT TO WASHINGTON DX. NATIONAL tADOWM8NT OF ARTS, RTC Mayor ?erre: I thought perhaps I might share with you members of the commis- sion the last three days that I've had. I've had some very interesting things and Rose, I think a little later on I'd like to sit down with each and every` one of you and tell you we are missing, Mr. Andrews, I want you to listen to this. We're missing the federal boat, not completely. We're doing a good job in a lot of areas but there area tremendous amount of federal funds` available `that wr_ should be going after a lot stronger. Now, for example, and I want to impress upon you the importance of having a Mayor or a commissioner be involved in .ill of this personally.For example, I went yesterday to the office of minority businesses and. spent an hour with the director, Mr. Almendares. I gave him all the reasons why Miami should be selected for $160,000 worth of grants. Of course, we made a formal application which I carried with me also - it had been mailed, I had a copy ofit. The point is that he finally said, "Well, I want. to tell you that I can't tell you who we're going tc choose but I would say that the fact that you as Mayor have shown an interest is going to weigh very heavily on our decision. Now I heard this all over Washington. You see, they're used, to people and staff or someone who is am employee' of a governmental entity doing the applicagion. They're not just quite used to hav ing an elected official really go up there. So part of the problem as I see it is our own that we haven't pursued these things. And let me tell you what happen- ed. The conversation was very friendly and then he said, the director, "There is an agency who just funded such and such a thing and I think if you come up with good development projects of some kind where you can get the. private sector in- volved in it they have bricks and mortar, millions and millions of dollars that they don't know what to do with and why don't you go up and talk to the director of that program." This is all in the Department of Commerce. I went up and sat down with him. He said, "Well, what have you got in mind?" I said, "Well, I really don't know". This is the Office of Economic Development, O.E.D. I said, "suppose we ask you this, supplose we take a section of Little Havana let's say along 8th Street and were to buy property and develop a center that would for example have the cigar manufacturers around - we've got 6 or 7 major cigar manu- facturers in this community. Suppose we, were to put them all together in an area and then combine it with a shopping area and fountains and restaurants and what have you and try to do what Ybor City has tried tc do but hasn't quite ac- complished. Suppose we were to do something like this, would there be moneys available?" He said, . So we have many many opportunities we have not pur- sued in some cases because we don't know. Now let me tell you about my visit to the National Endowment for the ARts. First of all we were turned down for the $19,600. The man said, "The kindest way for me to put it to you is you obviously don't know what you're doing in this application because the spirit of the city in this application is completely,." You know it is apples and we're talking about oranges. Now the kind of program you should be applying for we'd like to help you and what we need, he said is we'd like for several members of the administration to spend a day here and we can go over what is what around here, Now the $45,000, Paul, for the art work l think has been approved and now we're going through the technicalities of fin- alizing that and the application for the $150,000 art program will be under study but they don't think that they had enough information to make a decision, 1 told them we knew that we just wanted to get the ball' rolling, Out I'll discuss this MAY 221975 with you later at. All ih all t would say that perso al attet tion it extt neiy important ift there applitatiott if. Washiniit r and I would ttrohgiy eommetd the adiniftistrati$f . We've got a real good Mari ifti Mark ttraeit he's a real filie Meat l think that each ehe of us bh thth committioh ahot]id take a speeiai interest in the area, the geterai area so it dcesf't fall upon the Mayor or One peraoh its particular and follow it up+I might add, We haven't talked about our legit.. Lit.ive program, l uf,detstand.., l think ;+ u're going to find out that we've had to f t victories but hot nearly •as much as +e would have liked,, f think the teaion trot that is and next year the way l hopewe can do thus is to get batter organised and each one of us to take on a packet of legislative bills and per` noha.liy follow up. We should be the lobbyist along with our lobbyist* tur lobbyist does. a Fite job but f think we should become involved persohaily There is a big difference when J. LA Plummer nr Maholo or Rose Gordon walks in or rather Gibson ihto a committee room recogtsited by the bade belegation and when Siaser walks in 20 times a day. As good as he is, he's a fine lobbyist but l think it needs the personal attention; of those' who are better recognized and known by those who are making the decision. Now I think I've had the name experiences now in the same offices in Washington where l recognize, Mr. Andrews, l want you to know that I visited 6 different governmental agencies. I called the top Man and the man said, "Of course, I'll see you, Mr. Mayor. What time would you like to come in" And I actually went around and saw a lot of these people and I was very surprised because I thought that it was very difficult to get to See some of the government... Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, may I add to what you've said because I agree with you totally in what you're approaching- is that one person cannot do it all and that each of us may have a talent or an inclination into a particular avenue whereas others may have a greater talent or inclination to another. I would be very willing to work with you with whichever way you want to divide the work load so that we can each assume certain responsibilities. We still have a couple of minutes, I think this is a letter I just looked at I just received that you would be interested in hearing. It is from Arthur Foehren- bach who is the director of the Metropolitan Dade County Department of Youth Services. It says: Thank you for the letter of May 15th. It will be a pleasure to meet with you on Wednesday, May 28th to begin work on a coordinated Youth Activities Program. It goes on to, say that I especially appreciate the emphasis on the preventative program which can reach jeuveniles and their families before serious social disorganization has taken place. This is the kind of response the community is giving to our efforts to coordinate all of the youth services. J.L., you got the notice and Father did also to join together with professionals of this caliber and members of the school board to begin deciding what way this thing should be explored and the road to travel on. So I just wanted you to know this letter was here and is as much yours as mine. While we have one more minute, Mr. Lloyd, yesterday we discussed an amendment to get to our delegation as quickly an possible the matter of the State control of all of the water areas affects our area and especially the City of Miami's interest very dramatically so Mr. Lloyd hay: prepared a resolution to send to the delegation so they be made aware of, the implication of the act as it is being presented. Mr. Lloyd: We are now in the process of preparing the final draft and final. form for presentation. We'll have it ready in a short while. Mrs. Gordon: It should be done this morning... Mr. Lloyd: It will be ready within 30 minutes. Mrs. Gordon: Right, because it is going to come up today I believe. GRANT PERMISSION TO CONSTRUCT BUILDING T'ZACT "C" ¶)ORE PARK MIAMI,-DAD E WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY Mr, Plummer; Is the objector here? Do you stipulate everything herein con- tained in your application is true? Mayor Ferro: Well let him explain and wait a minute until it is 9;30 exactly. Go ahead, Garrett, Mr, Garrett Sloan: About two years, ago we accepted the transfer of the main- tenance of the Sewer System in Miami, Of course, we've got lots of other sewer Systems to maintain and the purpose of our application is to constrgct a service building so We can maintain the Sewer system properly in this city, We have about.,. NAY 2 2197 4t omployees hOW uotkitv At a toMporary facility i i the vicinity inity of 3. . lath Avenue and 2'0th atfeet. We watt to put rap a building at the extreme west end f the Moere parFk property1Which has always been used as a pipe yard for >t6ra ing water supplies because it is centrally located and ut sure want to be as close tt the City of Miami sewer system activities as we eat-; by that location. Mayor Verret All right. is the objector here/ Are there any objectors; pmesa ant NO ObnCTWO APPEARtb Mt. Ahdrewe t Mr. Mayor and tnetnbers of the commission, 1 wonder if Mr. Slbah can tell the commission about the pipes that are stored there. la it your plan to pick all of those up and clean them up/ because it is adjacent to the park and I know you want to beautify it and landscapeit. Mr. Sloan: 'That's right, Mr. Andrews. We are moving all of the pipes stored there to another location and this will very much improved from an appearance standpoint in the area. Rev. Gibson: You know 1 ask this because we are continually plagued with this: "Subject to site plan approved by the planning Department", what does that mean' Mr. George Acton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, we have been trying to resolve any problems in site plans prior to the time that they reach the com- mission so that when the commission acts on an item like this that the plan will accompany their action. In this particular case, however, the Water and Sewer Board did re -submit a plan which still needs a few corrections in it but Mr. Sloan has assured the administration that whatever we require in terms of beautie- fication for this area the Water and Sewer Authority will be more than happy to comply it. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor,I want to make this statement. You know it is all right for us to come up here and say"Subject to," we vote and then after we vote some- times; I'm not saying this will happen, Mr. Sloan with you, that these things are not done. I think that the plans,in the future, I think the plans ought to ac- company the request so that we aren't caught in the bind; that you know, after you leave us then you decide "we've changed our minds". That isn't the way it is. I am a firm believer that we must answer to the public and I don't mind telling the public why I vote the way I vote. But I don't plan to vote and then you ask me, say well, I want you to change your mind and I've already voted. I don't have any choice. And I think, Mr. Acton, we ought to insist even with zoning matters that they're going to move a tree they bring it on the paper and we 'd be voting on the paper so that they don't change their mind after they leave us -and I'm not being hard nor difficult. I'm for letting you go ahead this time but I want to sound the clarion call that I expect people to come here with it on the paper. I'm going to second the motion with the full knowledge, Mr. Sloan, that you're on the spot. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-472 A RESOLUTION GRANTING PERMISSION, AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XVIII-1, SECTION 4 (1), TO CONSTRUCT MAIN- TENANCE BUILDING ON 995 N.W. 36TH STREET, TRACT "C", MOORE PARK (86-45) FOR MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY AS PER PLANS ON FILE, SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT; ZONED P-R (PUBLIC PARK AND RECREATION) DISTRICT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A, Ferre NOES; None. MAY 221975 CTAIN PAC 4ayor ^etre Are there a objectors to lttm #'S Aii right, sir, well list's hear tram the Platti g Departmetltt first, Mr. Oeorge Aotbnt Mr. Mayor and neuters of the ctmtmissisn, this is another in a aeries of districts ±it the City tf Miami where the department has recommended to the Planning Advisory board and the City- Cotnmiasibtt certain parcels of land which Meet the criteria.., Mayor Pierre: *here is the map that you usually have` Mr. Acton: That's ih your agenda folder, Mr. Mayor. There are a number of exhibits that show the location. The ttumberiitg system that is used on these parcels are tied to the Zoning Atlaa numbers. It other words 8*1 would mean that it is also ahtswn as Zoning Atlas sheet #8.` These parcels of land have been identified in accordance with the standards that are set forth in the environtnettal preservation district. Which are very simply that the parcel of land must Meet the criteria of 10,000 square feet of tree cover. in other words the crowns of the trees in the aggregate' must approximate 10,000 square fret or there must be a special specimen tree on the site or there must be a special' geological formation that meets the criteria set forth in the ordinance. These that you are reviewing today area series of recommendations that basically pertain to the northern half of the city. That concludes my presentation, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Plummer: Is there anybody else that wants to speak to this? Is there anybody that wants to speak to item #5? Selma? Mrs. Selma Alexander; My name is Selma Alexander and.I live at 2323 S. Miami Avenue. I would like to speak strongly in recommendation of the Planning Department and the Planning Advisory Board's recommendation. All of these areas in the city which were very carefully researched by the department are needed to keep what trees we have still there. We've seen them bulldozed all over the place and hopefully we'll try to maintain what is left. Thank you. Mr. W.W. Charles: My name is W.W. Charles, zoning consultant 15180 Biscayne Boulevard, North Miami Beach, Florida. I'm here on the behalf of Grove Pac Corporation. We're objecting to the inclusion of the Brosius Subdivision which is on the north side of Little River Canal and Biscayne Bay. This area we have 600 feet more or less of frontage on the water. It is the most beautiful site anywhere left of Biscayne Bay. We have been stopped from going ahead with plans that we already have for building an apartment house in the zoning already there because of the water and sewer moratorium. The plan of your northeast study has designated the very center of this property as a possible park site. Now we have written each one of the City Commissioners and the Mayor offering tosell it if they want to buy it. But we don't think that it should be blighted with this control because of the fact that the place is you might say completely packed with either Seagrape, Coconut trees that are not afflicted by the blight and some Australian Pines. So in the event you're going to try to condemn this prop- erty for a park because of the identification of it in the pamphlet study this will seriously depreciate the value of it and it you want to take out the center and use it for a park of course you would have to pay the severance values from the unit. So we object because this is about the only site tha you have exist- ing on the bayfront and it has been picked out by them because of the fact that they want it for future park use. It is so identified in the record so in the event of any court procedure or anything I did want to have the objection on record today. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir. Anybody else wish to speak on Item #5? For the record, sir, if you would state your name and mailing address. Mr, Cye Arning; Cye Burning, 870 N.W. 11th Street, reference to 24-5, Lot 1, Spring Garden. I have two lots, lots 1 and 2 and both of them are just barren. I have no trees on either one of them and yet they..,. Mr, Plummer; Wait a map, Spring Garden, minute , sir, just hold on a minute. Go put that up on a Burning; Spring Garden Lots 1 and 2, 24-5 on this. Plummer; This is close to the river? Mr, Burning; It is on the river. itt 'tf frog fyarde t, All of them beautifully latdaeaped this ot►e -lot has both picked ag the beauty shot and the toff says they have pious Trott it. 1D bAttehe t Watiht1 just like to §e btt reo8rd NW that there it nothing tit that lot and someday When seine tns icotbt tones by and tittdt no trots at it ht might say... There art Pitrus trees text deer ih the subdivisiott, That hot is the boundary bttweet sub divisibtts and bile of the Pitt ltata branehas does hang over the bouhdary bf that property but otri my lot there it no tree t a11. I doti't see any bb jeotibfi to tht i teet buttes Mrt Aotch We'll cheek to Hake sure that tiur mapping designation is borreett.. Mr. burhitg: I don't see ary harm really either way. Is there any harm either way whether it is ' it Or out unless they watt to ebttdemh it fora park? Mr. Acton: Well, of course the whole poiht of designating parcels of land is to preserve the trees that are there. What l'rn saying it that we will cheek to make sure that there is no error in the mapping of the lots, your lots. Mr. Burning: my lot has no trees Oh it at all and it is fill. Mr. Acton: Weil hold this item then out until we check it, Mr. Burning: You see, these trees next door are in the low land# they grow on low land and the lots next door are about 2 feet lower than my lots, My lots are filled in high. Mr. Plummer: Ok, anybody else who wishes to speak on Item #5? Any discus- sions or questions from members of the Commission? The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-473 A RESOLUTION DECLARING SPECIFIC PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN AN AREA OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEGINNING` AT BISCAYNE BAY AND N.E. 87TH STREET(EXTENDED), SOUTH ALONG THE BAY TO N.E. 7TH STREET (EXTENDED), WEST ON 7TH STREET TO N.W. 27TH AVENUE, NORTH ON N.W. 27TH AVENUE TO CITY LIMITS, NORTH AND EAST ALONG THE CITY LIMITS TO N.E. 87TH STREET, EAST ON N.E. 87TH STREET TO BISCAYNE BAY TO BE ENVIRON- MENTAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS AS PER EXHIBITS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX ATTACHED HERETO IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE NO. 8301; AND AUTHORIZING THE BUILDING DIRECTOR TO INCLUDE SAID PARCELS ON THE OFFICIAL MAP OF ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS, MAINTAINED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted, here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYFS: Mrs. Cordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Rev. Gibson NOES: None. ABSENT; Mayor Ferro. ENTER INTO AGREEMENT BALTIM RE BASEBALL CLUB INC, FOR USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM The Folloo.ing resolution was introOuced ?;y ^onmissioner ►tehoso, who moved its -adoption: RESOLUTION NO, 75-474 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT MODIFYING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THEBALTIMORE BASEBALL CLUB, INC, ENTERED INTO ON JULY 26, 1974, FOR USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM BY THE MIAMI ORIOLES BASEBALL TEAM, TO FURNISH THE CLUB WITH THE OPTION OF EXTENDING SAID AGREEMENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR THROUGH THE 1978 SEASON; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ctiry CLEPR 10 TERMINATE 1HE ACREEMETN EET EE THE CITY OP NUM' AND VUE EALTf 'MEER= CLUbf INC. BRED INTO ON MARCH /"/, 1075, Rt t t EE Cr THE MIAMI HAEERALL ETAS UM E ' THE tALTtMt E,E t RICIEE EASEgAJiTEAM, AND AU M kt 1N0 AND bfRECTING 1HE cv'rY MANAGER Mb Itt CITY CLEW TO ENTER t INTO A NEW AGREEMENT fN ITS PLACE, SUCH NM4 AGREEMENT TO IN,- CLUDE MObZPICAY'i6NE AND Abbf/tONAL TERME At ARA AGREED TO EY THE PARTIES. 'Mere follows body of resolutions omitted here and on tilt in the Office of the City Clerk') Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolut Passed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mr, Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mrs. Gordon. NOES: None. AhAt'PJ , Mavis? VAttA EXECUTE CONTRACT TOUCHE) ROSS & CO EXfi ERNPL PVD T OF .F INANC ,AL ACG9UNT4 *leboso t now much money is involved there? Mr. Andrews: $18,000. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Andrews, under discussion on Item 33 for the record I've already brought it to your attention I'm very unhappy with this year's fin- ancial audit. I think that the figures herein contained, I'm not blaming the auditor for but I think they're very misleading. I bring especially to your attention page 78 of Expenditures where it reflects that this city spent $27,500,000 for Public Safety is a figure totally inaccurate. The figure in fact is $33,243,000 and if anyone were to look at this thing and not know the figures it would completely throw it and I personally would like to see this 74 audit corrected to reflect the proper figures. I will vote with the motion, I think they have otherwise done a good job and these probably are the figures that were given to them but it is totally out of character. Any further dis- cussion on Item 33? The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE FIRM OF TOUCHE ROSS & CO. FOR THE EXTERNAL AUDIT OF THE FINANC- IAL ACCOUNTS,` RECORDS AND FISCAL AFFAIRS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1975. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution passed and adopted by the following vote AYES; Mr, Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer. NOES None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre, ATM Or THE1W RPE 'RAM MAUS LET/NO SECTION 'C AN =IRAN= CrtY l ITLEO' , AN 'tMRRINARCE ,AMEMOIR6 CHAPTER 58 OE TEE CITY COON, tRTITLEO fi?RAVEL Et1REAUS" r Lit OttETINO SECTION s5-s tR tpa ERTtRETY; AND RRbVib1NS fiN EPEEC "tVE iA' E. Was introduced by COMMi00i6het 1tebriso and seconded by *VOL and passed Oh its first rearing by title by the foliewitig vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson., Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mt. Reboso. NOES: Netts, ASSERT: Mayor perre. SUAMIT PEDRAL GRANT APPLICATION Mr. Plummer: Under discussion, COMMUNITY EVALUATION OF POLICE PROGRAM EFFECT I YENE tell us what it is. Mr, Andrews: It's to evaluate the tri-cultural program and this is really a matter sponsored by the LEAA as much as it is by the city. They mill come in and actually audit everything that has been accomplished and utilise it on a national basis after they're finished with our program. Mrs. Gordon: This will do a total evaluation and it'll be done by independent people outside of the program, is that correct? Mr. Reboso: Mr. Manager, let me ask you something. Is it possible under this grant...the community centers, I spoke with you about it yesterday? Mr. Andrews: To evaluate, this would be just evaluation of a program as it is carried out now. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-476 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION FOR $75,000.00 TO INITIATE A PROJECT ENTITLED "COMMUNITY EVALUATION OF POLICE PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AND EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Rev. Gibson. NOES: None. ABSENT; Mayor Ferre. s CflL�CTIONWASTE tT A : N '° BIMERS TRASH%MICE The feI1ewt § tesbltti ti was ihtrbdutta by CdthMifitiblitt kebt st moved its adepti ,h. f tOIt 1bt4 No. 5..477 A Mgt-10210N AtfTHO tI 1NG Wit; 'tSSUANCH ,Op A WAS", t, C ION t1Ct HSE TO AbONSO SRt THERS TRASH SERVICH. (Mere follows body of resoiution, omitted here and file itz the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibsoni the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Mr. Plummmer ► fir. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mrs. Gordeh o NOES: None, At3SHN'r : Mayor Ferre. 10. DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS FILED AGAINST THE CITY Thc fo11o''rin^ ry r ol.tition ,.!FAS introAtl(:ori Commi'si ones libson, `''ho moved its adoption; RESOLUTION NO. 75-478 A RESOLUTION DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFEND ANY SUIT BROUGHT FOR THE RECOV- ERY OF DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF SAID CLAIMS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution passed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. 11, PROVIDE DATE FOR PUBLIC REARING PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF OFFS I BEET PARKING The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-479 A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING, OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENDING OCTOBER 1, 1975 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1976. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, passed and adopted by the following vote AYES; Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer, Mrs. Gordon and M NOES; None, ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. Ilk 14 Main 111D At HIMYII1MIEt_48: e tesIl i.rteSolutiohas ihttochieed by CommiSsitter atbto ovtA Lts Adopt .bti t RESOLUTION NO. 7S6.48b A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING TNS Bib OP THE ERR COMPANY OR F1iORlbA, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OP $294 66.2S ROR THE CON- STRUCTION STRUCTIoN OP i'ASHION HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT i1‘4181, Rib "A" (HIGHWAYS); Att OCAT/NG THE AMOUNG c ' $284,066.25 PROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED D +'HIGHWAY HONb UW ' S►" TO COVER THN CONTRACT COST; Atat OCAT.NG PROM SAiti ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT ot{ $28,496.63 TO COVER THE COST OP PRoa ro EXPENSE, At- tOCATING PROM SAID ACCOUNT THE Abb1TI NAL AMOUNT ce $ 2, 639. i2 TO c ovt t THE COST OF AbVLRTIStNG, TESTING tom- CIRATORt1 S AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXEcUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Cordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Rev. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. Gibson. was The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-481 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF A. J. HOUSE & SONS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $109,492 OO FOR FASHION HIGHWAY IMPROVE- MENT H-4381 - BID "B" (STORM DRAINAGE); ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $109,492.00 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "STORM SEWER BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNTOF_$10,949.20 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $2,189.80 TO COVER THE COST OF ADVERTISING, TEST- ING LABORATORIES AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MAN- AGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution passed and adopted by the following vote AYES:` Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mrs. Gordon. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. 1 ' ACCEPT BID IITI{ALIE pANGE NO. 1 PARK COMFQRT STATION 'he following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO, 75-482 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF AD-A-LITE'ELECTRIC, INC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,369.00 FOR ATHALIE RANGE PARK NO. 1 - COMFORT STATION; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $20,369.00 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "PUBLIC PARKS & RECREATIONAL FACILIT- IES BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $2,036,90 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT' OF S407,10 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM, (Here follows booty of resolution, omitted here and OD file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon both/ `9etb ed by Cbflllliiss :etef' Rebate, t elltaelut panted and adopted by the fellewilm votes AYES: Mr. i t eae, Rev. Gibbon, Mre. Cordeh arid Mr MOTS oho i AtttMT: Mayer Pert*, 14. ACCEPT BID FERTILIZER 'FOR UgE OF 'PARKS DEPARTMENT #Aii0m1N2 r0§61%rtion MB intr6(tie 5J t'ommieetaher Glbeohs who moved its adeptien RESOLUTION NO 75*452 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING BIDS RECEIVED POR FURNISHING PERTILIEER POR USE BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPART.. MENT AND TTHE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PROM O. M. SCOTT SONS AT A COST OF $6,061.00t Wb0DBURY CHEMICAL COM.. PANY AT A'COST OF $1,725.00; P.E.C. FERTILIZER COMPANY AT A COST OP $625.00; ATLANTIC FERTILIZER & CHEMICAL COMPANY AT A COST OP $8,485,20; CLARKE CHEMICAL' AT A COST OF $6,092,80; AND WENDELL BUTLER SUPPLY CORP, AT A COST OP $2,552,75; FOR A TOTAL COST OF $25,541,75, AS SHORN ON THE "TABULATION OF BIDS FOR FERTILIZERS," A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS POR THIS MATERIAL FROM FUNDS ALLOCATED POR THIS PURPOSE IN THE 1974-75 BUDGET. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYiS: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. and Mr. Reboso. 15, ACCEPT BID WESTERN DRAINAGE PROJECT E-34 '^-c collo'. ing resrinti on was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-484 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROENCA CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $134,031.75 FOR WESTERN DRAINAGE PROJECT E-34; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $134,031.75 FROM THE AC- COUNT ENTITLED "STORM SEWER BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CON- TRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $13,403.18 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCAT- ING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $2,680.07 TO COVER THE COST, OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORA- TORY AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Rev, Gibson, NOES: None, ABSENT; Mayor Ferre. MAY 22197 AYES: COMMT ttAT ON AND DASUIDA' FERN $11 QT FIN( PARS Tht toileWing molution wt6 ihtt dui ed by Co t,ittioter motrd ith attept.Un: RESOLUTION Rb. 75.45t A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE En Iv W. P. WYNNE CO,. INCA pOtt THE 'CONSTRUCTION or A COMPORT STATION, EASKETDALL AND TENNIS COURTS, EASEEALL f'IEtb AND WALKWAYS AT FEW ISLE SOUTH PORK PARK AT A TOTAL COST OP $10G, 0004 PRO- VIDING VIDING P0tt PROJECT EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OP $10,t00 AND INCIDENTAL EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OE $2,120, ALLO- CATING THE NECESSARY PUNIS PROM THE 1972 PARK AND REC- ATIoNAb ?ACILIT'IES EON) rUNbS AND AUTHORIZING THE PROPER OPPICTALS OP THE CITY OP MIAMI TO ISSUE PERMITS TO THE SUCCESS?Uf ttbbBtt. (Mere follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mr. Plummer Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mrs. Gordon. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre, 17. RECEIVE SEALED BIDS GARDEN NIGFIWAY I1PROVEf1ENT H-4374 AND GARDEN. I ',_ satER P a.R-5385-G AND S This being the date and time advertised for receiving sealed bids for construction of Garden Highway Improvement H-4374 and Garden Sanitary Sewer Improvement SR-5385-C (centerline sewer) and SR-5385-S (sideline sewer) the Mayor announced that the City Commission was now ready to receive sealed bids: The following resolution who moved its adoption: was introduced by Commissioner' Plummer RESOLUTION NO. 75-486 A RESOLUTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, READ AND REFER TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR TABULATION AND REPORT BIDS AUTHORIZED TO BE RECEIVED THIS DATE FOR: GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4374 & GARDEN SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5385-C. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was paused and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES; None. BIDS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING FIRMS: 8.A.C. Construction, Inc. Intercounty Construction Corp. P.J. Constructors, Inc,, Anzac Contractors, Inc, Sullivan Long & Haggerty Stone: Paving Co. (:apelet:t:i Bros., Inc. Thu Brener Company of Fla., Inc. I).M,P, Corporation Marks Brothers Ce., Not Inc, Goodwin, Inc. Joe Reinertson Equipment Co. Garcia Allen Construction Co, Little Bird Nursery & Garden Store Mancini Construction, Inc. Paul N, Howard Co. .12 MAY z 21975 • 1,44. P111111,. CON. ItUCT101.1)P. • : .IVICELLUS..• KiAt:4M o t l 1 1fiE, Are the prottmet is of ltttn 1 here/ Mr. PlumMet: Mt. MMayor the reason this thing was deferred was to give Mr1 &ton t.ht opportunity togo back and 'evaluate statements made by the applte and t think ri ally that's 'w1,at We want to hear right NW. Mayor Perth: Let Me see if there are any objectoot Ate the objector§ here? Arty there any objectors to tter 7 it, the roon? All right. You two ladles atn objectors, are your Would you like to speak tin this item later On? We're going to first hear from Mr. Acton and then we're going to hear from you and then we'll hear from the applicant. All right, Mr. Acton, Mt, Anton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission. there were two questions raised in connet;tion with this particular application to the department. The one question referred to by Commissioner Plummer is could the applicants build 41 units on this site and the answer is yes although they couldn't build in the configuration that they've shown the Commission. The units could built but they would be smaller than requested by the applicant and they would not be in the same configuration that is shown by the applicant. Mr. Plummer That was exactly the statement he made. So it is correct. They could build the same amount without a variance. Mr. Acton: Yes, they could build 41 units without a variance. The other qurution pertained to tree relocation and we did send the commission a memor- andum on that question. Yes, the trees on the site can be moved provided that adequate precautions are taken in terms of root pruning 90 days prior to re- location and adequate watering during that period of time. Now we did meet with the applicant during the interim period of time and he did prepare a site plan that shows that a number of the trees on the site are to be relocated. If you recallwe naid the Planning Department's denial was based on ... We were trying to preserve the trees on the site that's our, main objection. Now the applicant has agreed to relocate the 70 inch Ficus and a couple of the 24 inch Oaks on the site plus there are other fruit trees that he has also willing to relocate on site in various places that presently do not have adequate land- scaping. Does that answer all of the questions of the commission? Mr. Plummer: Well, under those circumstances do you still recommend denial? Mr. Acton: We can't, Commissioner Plummer, as you know the Planning Depart- ment can't recommend a variance unless it is in accord with the ordinance. Do you follow me? In other words we can't legally recommend against our zoning ordinance. Mr. Plummer: Even to save the trees? (Mr. Acton interrupted by Mrs. Gordon and therefore both statements Mr. Lloyd: May I interrupt for just a moment with respect, Mrs. Gordon? If Mr. Mayor and the Commission please, this is technically; legally what th.0 is is an appeal by the proponent from the decision of, the Planning Board. Now you may act upon the appeal and either grant or deny the var- iance so it might be appropriate if you heard first - now this is the way it should be handled - the proponents then from the objectors and then the questions you have could be asked of Mr. Acton afterwards in accepting his advice in making your decision. Mayor Ferre: All right. Thank you, Mr. Lloyd. Will the proponent... You will then make your statement. Your name and address for the record. Rev, Gibson: Pardon me, Mr, Mayor. Those two ladies who are objecting out and maybe they need to be here to hear' Mr, Lloyd: The Commissioner is right, they should be here. Mayor Ferro; Would somebody so advise the two ladies that they should be here and listen to the proponents, Mrs, Gordon; While we're waiting, may I ask a question? I wanted to know the size of the parcel as to the amount of land area, square feet or acreage. f►t tti tewehty iiie thotieantl S'gUate f et, 'COMM stether ftttleh. Ciofdeih t AliYiost tWo aCtee. Mt. Actor, ref;, it is 2`5b across the frot,t and 300 deep. Mrs, riot -doh Yetf bet ih acreage its s hot 1 iite , acres. Mr. Actoh fifes. it' d alhbst two acres Nits. Ciotdot: The reason my question was posed ih that Tahhher was beeauee of the possibility of a Planhed Area bevelopmeht application being appl,iett to it SO therefore. the question of legality of variance would be removed. A:toh It doesn't meet the criteria..... three acres Or Mere. Mr. Plummer: The two ladies are snow present. Mrs. Gordon: Pardon me. Acton: Plahned Area beveloptnent is three acres of more. Mrs. Gordon: That right, that's why it doesn't fit that. Mayor Terre: Ladies, we wanted you to hear the presentation that is going to be made. Mr. Jose Corbato: My name is Jose Corbato, 8220 S.W. 13th Terrace. I am the architect for the project. The reason that we are requesting some variances for the project which we'll be glad to explain again in detail as we did in previous sessions, if you so desire, is because we feel if we are within the regulations... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, may I interrupt. Unless the two ladies want to hear it this is only deferred for two questions to be answered. We've already heard the presentation and I just asked Mr. Lloyd, we don't have to. All we have to hear is from the objectors because they were not here and didn't speak before. Yes, but I'm saying that he didn't realize that we had heard the whole item before. Mayor Ferre: All right, so then we will hear from the ladies who are objectors. Mr. Corbato: In case you need me I'll be glad to show the boards and everything as I have them with me. Mayor Ferre: Have you showed them to your neighbors? Mr. Corbato: I showed it to a group of neighbors on the first hearing and they all concurred it was a good project and so forth but maybe they were different neighbors, there are so many. But I'll be glad anytime in the meeting, after or before to show it to them. Mayor Ferre: All right, ladies, your name and address for the record. Mrs;. John Holland I'm Mrs. John Holland, 1633 S.W. 19th Terrace and I've lived there 34 years. All around us they have built and rebuilt and crowded these people in until there is not room for the people to stand much less walk. We've fought next door for three years and they just kept adding another room and an- other family, another room another family; there is no room for cars. The whole block is completely filled with cars and people and it is so crowded that it's just not a place for anyone else. And if that is built at the end of our street that means the traffic and the cars will be on our block. We have no place to park our car. It is the overcrowded condition is what is bothering me and 41 units, if you don't know each room has one family in it or they rent an apart- ment to one family and one and two more families move into the apartment. What we're objecting to is the overcrowding. So how many people can live in a 41 unit. apartment? They will do it, Mr, Plummer; To try to answer your question, according to the zoning law only 41 families can live there. Mru, Holland; I don't care what you say, they will do,,. And we have just been f•i.9htin9 this next door. Pour people moved out of an apartment that wasn't supposed to be there, six people have moved in already and more ere moving in this apartment that should not be there, Mr, Pltunvner; This is next door to you? MAY 221975 ' tt, Holland: land: text doer to the Tanta in f c.'nt c# me it's Y e :iced 2--2 and it Vas .h coin. t just the last few wtreks and it is z, to:=d for R--2 and the lawyer says' '"Weil that don't mean anything !-2 means you can have a house and theft y`6u cat' take apattment s, he says two apartments in the back." and I say that is hot sr Y Mf. 1'lufrter: Yes, Mi am, you cars. 'hider F'?'-2 you can have a dupleX; Mtu. Holland: A duplex, alright. Nor ;3 :t :'see role into...for two people the house and then two apartments in the back ':hays four families. Mr, Plunlrner1 Mr. Ferencik, heed het attention. Mr. Robert Ferencik : Well Mt. , May°:'r and ..:c. mmi s::;ioners, the over crowdirit of property in terms of rrimber_s ;:I people . the zoning ordinance specifies that up to 5 unrelated people can lived in a 1r Jino unit. Now you've got to prove that these people are unrelated and if you g:., into these problems you've got to ;prove that these people are untu_l,atod oofoie yo',.i can really make a case ih the event that you find more than ::) people living in a single living unit. Now there is no specification ; it the ,iot.:i ...I 7t tl :.ahoe that says how many people of a single family, a family tout t art ..; i . a:, l ` i63b c. 10 members and live in -a living unit. There is no speeifictation. The prerogative to make that judge* mr_nt and the law that relate; to t. a:at i:., L ..:L ulcer question has been for a nut- ber of years turned over to t r. poi i l in; . de County. T}:it becomes a matter of minimum housing and the minimum h0u . r q people have: the authority to speci- fy or the minimum housing ordinance specify how many square feet you have to have per person. This problem is .o:i _ :ino f l:rc'ughout the entire community at the present time and one of the questions ns that you might want to address your- self - to is the fact that the zoning ordinance she i fies what a living unit is by whether or not it has :a kitchen n in ':. They tell:y take in the back of a build- ing and have two, what this lady means rhi ':c if ...calls apartments, but unless they have kitchens .in t:h...um they're . u._1,1ly no! in violation of the City of Miami zoning ordinance. Now this may he t_'ul3;n:ot that may be addressed. There are literally hundreds of unit;' of ths k1.11e1 throtir hout the City of Miami. Mr. Plummer: Ma'am, what: t:s t a : exact address where you say this violation occurs? think this +=t,no n needs your attention or j ou Mr:;. Holland: We're at 1633 i t. =W Lairi be 1631 ar:c1 1.632 across the street and next door. Across the street here must be 40 people lives there and one room has no _window. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Fernnc:1k would you an answer to the commission by memo. Mr:;. Holland: And they aro tet Mr. Plummer: 1'it.tt Terra-, Mrs. Holland: Ye:;. They are no related. Mr. Plummer.: Are you f i na .h ,, ma',:rny many parking unit:; ;are you prey no? te both of those and give us me ask the developer, how Mr. Corbato: We are providing Tit t'rl:es for 41 units which is what the Taw require. 1.75 because Lh y .ere two bedroom apartments so you have to provide 1.75 parking space for c ,,; living unit. Mr. Plummer: In the: park t.1 i i r..ei ,r: ncrent:? Mr. Corbato: Yes, everybody that liven *_hole: has access to one or two park- ings. Mr. Plummer.: There will not be a separate charge made for the parking? Mr. Corbato: No. Mayor Ferre: Are there any ether questions? Would the other lady like to speak? All right, ma'am. Thank you. The we're back to Mr. Acton now Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, an 1 told 'he commission i.on before we did meet with the applicant and he is willing to relocate a1.1 of the very large trees on the site and if the commission i call : the E.P.D. ordinance, the purpose of that ordinance is to save au marry trees ;is possible. Now this site would have been Batt I g"ti4b4 but the point is that that ofdit,anee eotitaiht proviei:trhs whereby the C i 1 + Est igiatfi . if it Se desires oar Mt ve ttets off site at their Lott that tans tailhe.: tail iced eh the "ti:te. The teaeott I bring this up to the t t5ffMistiOn it 'hat. theft art tikes 'bh this; Site that cannht be i tilited and the t'ity et uId it !hey desitt:_r1 utilite those treee elsewhere ih the City et Miatti. kriv: ?ii.bseh: flat this developer presented in writing on blueprint f8tltt %Aare t htse trees art going and what tree§ ht proposes to replant And theft after ht answers that I'd like 'te advance an idea. YOU know it tii'stt tbSt Me that in the heart of the central area where black people live ti.ti h. ctttitti ties to build the kind et housing they build and there isn't a doggone single tree of any-eort= sequence anywhere around, tt seems to me that a part of the trading in this business ought to be that if we fend these trees and the developer wants Us to do something = I'm following your reasoning neW = a give and take that what we could do is take some of those trees and offer theta to H.U.b. so they eould give us some landseapinq somewhere other than like out on 2bth :Street and 3rd Avenue, between 3rd Amenue and what used to be 6th Avenue where they have no trees of any eohsequehce. You know to plant a tree say maybe 5 feet high you aren't doing anything - not doing anything. If these men have big trees that Ley want to have us, that is they want to exchange this may be a way. taut before I get to that I want to make sure that we have a plan which says this tree is going here or a tree similar to it is going here and the like. Somebody ought to be responsible. I think it is fair enough to ask yeti to do that kind of thing that Rose talked about; go in there and root prune the tree and set it up for "X number of weeks and move it. I think if we don't do that we're being short- changed and I want it in writing, I want to see it in the blueprint that this tree is going here, that tree is going there. Otherwise, what will happen? Once they get this building, this project built is good-bye boy. Mr. Corbato: Mr. Mayor, may I answer? The request of Commissioner Gibson... Father Gibson, I am very happy to respond to your request. For everybody's information let me tell you that we have about 40 full grown trees on that site, plus or minus, indlucing three or four Oaks, we have a couple of Ficus and then we have Avocados and Mangoes as well as some Palmettos and some Coconut Palms. which unfortunately those are dead already. We believe that to build a build- ing it takes maybe 5, 6, 7 or 8 months - to build a tree it takes more than that. A full grown tree needs a generation to really develop and we have been trained his architects; unfortunately not everybody practices the same creed but we have been trained to save as many trees as possible and I think this is more and more becoming a trend especially for young architects in which they are trying to pre- serve the environment. Instead of working against the trees we have there we have produced a scheme working around the trees, the existing trees and keeping some of them as the focal point of the development. Some of them haveto be relocated and we're willing to relocate them taking all the necessary measures by root pruning and so forth. But also, I think we are moving like 7 or 8 trees. Mrs. Gordon: 0n site? No, relocating them on the site. Mrs. Gordon: Are you locating them on the same site? Mr. Corbato: Mr. Corbato: On the site but on different locations. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but what Father Gibson is saying is that if you • have any additional trees you are not going to use in the project that this would be a good thing for you to do and I think this is something that we ought to pursue. Mr. Corbato: That's my last part of the exposition. I was going to say then �s much as we would like to keep as many trees as possible and we are also plant- ing other new trees of different kinds to give a variety to the landscape we will be willing to give to the city as many trees as they possible can take and that we can possibly donate. We don't want to strip the land but we will be willing to share the treasure of all the trees we have there with the city and have some of them planted in other locations since we might end up with too many Mangoes and too many Avocados on the same land. Mrs. Gordon; But you only said 7 or 8 have to be moved because of your location of the building. So why move any others? Leave them in their natural state. Mr. Corbato; Well, there are four of them that we don't have room for them actually,,, Gordon; So really you have a surplus of four, Mr. tothatbi Zht by lu is four. Mrs. Gordon: but you will root prune them and make them ready for relocation to a lotatiotl aceeptible to the City. Vito will bear the expehee of the moving/ Mr. Cotbatot Wel , I don't know how that tiat it dohe... g` kev,. tyibsont That's a fair exchange. That's the kind or thing I'm talking about. If the Mayor's taught me nothing else he's taught me that, 1 think that that is fair. plus, Mr. Mayor, what 1''tfl also saying is I think that since we fiave a Man... Didn't you employee a man who is a tree surgeon or stttebody in that field? It seems to me that we heed to say to our department and say to you, go out there and specifically designate, bring to us a blueprint show- ing that this tree is going tit) be there. What I'm learning everyday is the builder tells me this is what is going to do and then when you start building, Man t'ain't none of it toinea true. This is my concern. Mr. Corbatot rather Gibson, we have provided the Planning Department with three prints showing the proposed trees that are going to be moved with their new locations as well as the trees that we don't think we have room for. We have, those prints already on file with the Planning Department, Mrs. Godon: You know, 1 bring this to you as a source of a refresher. The A.I.A., Father remember the tree bank concept? This is what we're talking about right now. We're talking about banking trees and saving trees and pruning the roots so they can be moved and we do have as you mentioned an excellent location. Another excellent area would be Bi-Centennial Park which is going to need a lot of nice big trees that possibly we want... They might fit into the scheme of Bi-Centennial Park. I just bring this to you as another location to consider. But the idea of the objections of the department was based upon the salvation of the trees. It appears to me to be solved in the responses of the applicant as to being willing to root prune and move. Now I didn't hear them say they were going to pay for the moving yet though. Rev. Gibson: We think that's a fair... Let me ask another question. We think that is a fair exchange because you're going to be getting eight more than... you know you'll get eight more than. You know? I think... Mr. Acton, you know maybe this isn't the thing for me to do and I'm learning every day. Based on your presentation to us at the last meeting as to the objection, trying to save these trees and so on and so on I wonder if your department is satisfied, reasonably so. Now we don't want to be unreasonable, reasonably so. Mr. Acton: Our department cannot recommend against our zoning ordinance is what I'm saying. Rev. Gibson: That isn't what I'm asking you. I'm talking about those trees. Acton: Yes, we're satisfied in terms of saving the trees in the site, yes. Rev. Gibson: That's all I wanted to know. I didn't want to... Mayor Ferrer All right, I` think we've discussed this one out and I happen to agree' with the statements. I think Bi-Centennial Park would be fine but I think that Father Gibson's point - we can always take care of Bi-Centennial Park in many other ways and I think that makes some sense and it ought to be at their ex- pense, whatever trees they're not going to use that they replant at a place of our choosing in the central area. ... There is a motion for approval of Item 7 with the stipulations as discussed on the record which basically means that no trees be lost. That whatever trees are excess that they be moved at the owners' expense to a place of the choosing of the City of Miami's administration. Mr. Lloyd; This is actually a resolution granting the variance from Ordinance No. 6871 with respect to this particular unit. That is what you're moving and on the record what you have is the suggestion proposed by Father Gibson which on the record has been agreed to by the proponent. I would like to specifically hear the proponent state for the record that the stipulations which have been suggested by this commission are agreed to by the proponent. Do you so agree, Mr. Attorney, representing, or Mr. architect representing the... Mr, Corbato; Yes, we do agree, Mr, Lloyd; Would you state your name and address for the record and the name and address of the proponent and stating you're acting on his behalf and you agree to the stipulations which were suggested, • r, CerhdtB tiiy name AA 46"s0 bt atf, '8220 '84$1, "12ti'i 'p `rAeethe at htteet tor the project, The proponent is Mr, Luis J. D8Miiig ia, t5 Nt 1ibiedue brlve, Miami, Piorid % Mt Lloyd! AAd you specifioaily egret th the e&Vitig and trahspIantlfig et the gees as proposed by this tbYlMiesioh Mr 'ty6r'batot Yes, We do agree. The tollowing resolution was introduce hived its adoption: RESOLUTION N0. 75 47 A RESOLUTION 'ION GRANTING A VARIANCt; PROM ORD/NANCt NO. 6871, ARTtCLty VlII-1► StrCTt0NS 2 (1) ► S AND 7, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION Op 41.-UNIT APARTMENT ' COMPLEX, WITH TWO OP THE 1"'OUR BUILDlt3G5 BEING 120' 0" IN LENGTH (100' PERMITTib)► BEING 28' t#tGR (25' PSSMITTEO) BEING 3 STORIES IN HEIGHT (2STORIES P1RMITTED), HAVING APLOOR AREA RATIO OP .S66 (.S0 PERMITTED): $SING PHE N250' OP 84S0 of Nt, LOT 1, BLOCK 2, MARCELLUS bEARtoRN'S SUB (S-26) ► LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2000 S.W. 17TH AVENUE, ZONED R-3A (LtM DENSITY APARTMENT) DISTRICT, (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) tlpon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ON ROLL CALL: Mayor Ferre: In voting yes I want to express for the record and to the two ladies that are here that under the law these developers can put up a 41 apartment unit and they have expressed at this commission that they intend to do so and they're going to do so one way or the other. So that unfortunately does not satisfy the problems that you have expressed here. What I think we've gotten out of this give and take where we've had several meetings is that we will end up with a better project which I think will improve rather than de- crease the value to the community. An apartment house is going to go up anyway. It is just a question of what kind and I think that the larger size of these apartments taking into consideration that they have given up more ground space and there will be more green area 1 think is an improvement and on that basis I vote yes. Mrs. Gordon: And may I also comment also for the records that the design and lay out of this development impressed me greatly because its unusual char- acteristic of the townhouse and conventional apartment combination should be one of the finer developments of this community. PROPOSALS By METRO TRAFFIC AND TRANSPOR- 19, REPORT BY COMMITTEE TATION TO ALLEVIATE PROBLEMS OF THE COMMISSION BAY .CGRT$, NATQM(\ M\t QP5 EIci Mayor Ferre: Now we'll take up Item #8. Mrs. Gordon, you chaired a meeting on the 20th. Would you report to us what... Mrs. Gordon: Yes, sir. I sat on that hot seat you Mayor Ferre; Would you give us a report as to what the consensus was and where we stand at this time? .Mrs, Gordon; I will try to summarize very quickly as I can. You have a portion of the transcript that was transcribed and extra copies of what we have are avail- able here with the Clerk so if anyone here wishes a copy of what the commissioners and the Mayor have you're welcome to it, just step up here and get it Mr, Mayor, since you appointed me to this special committee to chair the workshop meeting,` I really felt that you gave me a realy honor but at the same time with this distinct honor you slave me a very great responsibility to a great many people and I hope . that the conclutiont that are beihg arrived at of are the c hal.ueioht of that eve itg's meeting will meet game cif the heeds of the community aM that Chit riot bt a filial determihatioii today, tt the minutes that you have before you you will find that 'a preset tat1 f wet made by Mr. Mc Naughton of the MatropOl= itan 'bade County traffic and Traneportatioh bepartmer t acid he is not here t iia frothing but he hat .twit Mt. John tobinsbti who is here acid if he'll railrail§ hia hand to identify hit for any quettioht you stay have to put to him. He tried to make known the recommendations of his dt=partment by way of a slide preset t* atibh Whieh was very difficult for the people to see and to be •able to grasp in that manner the differences between the tour or five vataions that he has. One of the ooneluaiont that seemed t6 come oiit of all of the dia to aibh was that there was really no ore who was ih favor of widening tayahore brive, There was. practically everyone that was in favor of oc ntrolling the commuter typo of traffic in and out of both May Heights and Natoma Manor. The approath- es to trying to solve the problem of the commuter type of traffic were of a number of different varieties, There was a self'ast;etnbled committee that met and prepared a ciuestionaire to the people who live in bay Heights, They did this on their own and they sent out 182 flyers to the people in the community of tray Heights and they received a total response of 123, 125. Mayor Ferret 125 out of 180 Mrs. Gordon: Yes, right. Now Mr. Cole is here and he was one of the persons that met regarding the ballot that was prepared... Mayor Terre: Have you got a copy of that ballot? Mrs. Gordon: I have a single copy, I'll have it run off. Would you like to comment, or any of the other people here want to comment? 'I'll continue with my discussion but I really feel that since there is just a very fraction of the number here today on this item that were present the other night you're here because you're very interested either in the presentation as it was pro- posed the other night as you're either a proponent or an opponent to that kind of discussion that was taking place. How many people, just raise your hand, are her on this item? There is quite a number here but of course not nearly the amount that were here the other night. Let me go on with my analysis of the meeting. This ballot as you see before you was prepared by a group that had been pros and cons and they joined together and the results of their quest- ionaire produced an almost INAUDIBLE Mayor F'er.re: Ed, would you do that on the microphone so that we have it on the record? Your name and address and your statement. Mr. Ed Cole: My name is Ed Cole and I live at 46 Bay Heights Drive. I think on here I'm listed as Edward Pole. The entire purpose of this meeting, if I may take a moment and may I begin by please indicating our appreciation, Mrs. Gordon, for your spending those several hours the other night with us. We really appreciate it and we appreciate your commission and all it's going to try to help us solve the problem. The purpose of the meeting quite briefly was there were two factions. One faction wanted to close an entrance the otner one wanted it open. When we met we decided that we could accomplish the same thing by leaving it open if we had a "No Right Turn between 4 and 6" with a flashing warning signal only Monday through Friday. Half of the people voted for that; the other half wanted additionally a barricade put up between 4 and 6 hoping that this would alleviate the need for any police attending this to enforce it and thinking that this would be far easier and cheaper for the city to provide. To repeat, 182 ballots were placed one in each home, 70% or 125 people voted. Of the 125 people that voted 112 or 13 of that number voted for either proposition 1 or proposition 3. In all fairness I would like to comment that there was a remark made that the ballots slightly turned in one direction but the fact is we, feel that we have such a great problem that, to find this many people that were for these propositions that we were really com- ing to you with a mandate and making your position easier to maintain. We looked at, the problem, of the Bayshore Heights not wanting to widen Bayshore Drive, What our suggestion consists of will not in any way affect that. We've looked at the problem of Natoma Manor by suggesting that there be no left turn on Tigertail to slow the traffic into Natoma Manor and also... The one situat- ion we must have is two waying of Alatka for only several blocks and I believe there are only three homes along that area. It is conceivable that there could be some better suggestions, We're faced with an immediate safety problem and hope that the Commission will act as the Bay Heights residents have requested now with the understanding that if there are in the future any solutions such MAY 221975 M mtthanital arms tr ary other moves that arty titeettary that we would like to have the opportunity to review it and Pm tune the tay Heights residents would bt happy to eonstdet any other. lout please, it you possibly a g1.ve at tht relief we need howt tar children and retidehtt; are ill trouble Mayer Pettb: Mro Ahdrewt you know the many parking garage§ and parking lot§ have this eiechanitai thing whttrh goes tip and down and that is a relatively Wm*, pit thifg and well proven and riot overly tkpchsive. You could put a timer tth! that: very casiiy so that you wouldn't have ttio expense of a, Mail putting up a barricade all the time. It could very t imply be timed, it this is the will tf thin teMMittlioh, so that that thing would go down at 4 O'Ciock and go up at 6 O' Clock and that might be ttle way of doing it Se you 'don't have to be putting up a barricade because I'm thihkihg cif you might have a problem. Why should tht citizens of Miami have to pay all of them for a convenience to a certain portion of it, and the expense of having a Man go there everyday at 4 and then come back at 0 But if you do it mechanically we could do it very simply and t don't think that it could be too difficult to solve. Mr. Plummer: Ed., let me ask you this question. How do you answer the people on Alatka who have brought to my attention that the assimilation for Bay Heights people should be in through the Bay Heights area? Mr. Cole: Well, it is a proglem, Jet,. I didn't now that the three houses on Alatka Between Bayshore and Tigertail did find it objectionable. tut the other alternative is to get into that traffic to continue down to 17th Avenue, come back across 17th Avenue to Tigertail and then all the way back down into Bay Heights. Mrs, Gordon: I would like to add that that would present a tremendous hard- Whip on the Tigertail people between Alatka and l7th._ You can't 'solve all the problems, it is am impossible situation. The best we can hope for is to come up with something that meets some need and put it on a trial period basis of let's say 60 or 90 days and see how it is going. Mr. Plummer: I wanted to ask of Mr. Robinson... While he's coming up, Ed, what about Halissee? Mr. Cole: We have no objections to Halisee being one way unless you prefer our coming, maybe we could consider instead of two-waying Alatka, two-waying Halissee. We don't want to be a problem to Natoma Manor. Mrs. Gordon: There would be nothing to gain by two-waying Halissee. Alatka provides the nearest point of return into Bay Heights so therefore, that would inconvenience the least number of people and it would present the quickest and best solution to that getting home in that 4 to 6 hour. Mr. Cole: You know we're only talking about people, the Bay Heights residents that come from the north. A great many of them come from the south that wouldn't be bothering Alatka at all. Mr. Plummer: Ed, what it was said, in the comments that were expressed to me by some of the Natoma people that in fact the Bay Heights traffic of local resi- dents in Bay Heights should be assimilated by BY Heights and not spill over to using Alatka as an entrance. Has any consideration, Mr. Robsinson, been given to making, as soon as you... What is the first street inside of Alatka? Mr. Robinson: Shore Drive East. Mr. Plummer Shore Drive East, that in fact no left turn be made on Shore Drive so that the people of Bay Heights could... Mr. Cole: Youre confused. Heights? Mr. Plummer: Correct. Are you talking about our entering into Bay Mr. Cole Well then Semana is the main entrance to Bay Heights. Mr. Plummer; Well ok, no left turn off of Semana. Mr. Cole Then they'll go down Bay Heights Drive where they'll go down Shore Drive West which they're doing now. It is a race track now, They come into Sernana and they either shoot down Shore Drive East, Bay Heights Drive, Shore Drive West,., MAY 2 2197 • Mt, blummett Itiat l was (getting at i5 that if it fast tahe through tottiata it they had to make a right tuth i , Mayor Petrel What ,fit the people that live right there tit the cornett MrMr, tl 1me t Wek Well hey. it's the same thing with'Alatka, You know what1 the further question, Mr, 116151r:tot, obviously that wasn't contideted. Was any discussion 4iven to t,.i closing of Alatka at tixie7 Mrs, gordb1t No the seemed to raise aty particular objections tb that, Mr. Plummer: How about Halissee and bixie7 Mr, Cole: 1 for the would be inconvenienced but if this will help the Natoma people I don't mind your closing Alatka... Mrs, Gordon: There didn't seem to be any very strong objections to I mean we mentioned it but therewasn't any violent reaction that 1 could gage to the closing on the highway of either of those two streets. Some people felt that it was going to present problems it the morning getting downtown because of the fact that there is the stacking of traffic on 17th Avenue. But on the other hand then is an alternative route and that is traveling South Bayshore to 25th or 26th Road and picking up the expressway there. So I mean if people canpt do it one way they'll find another way to get where they have to go and I might be one of them because I travel that route every morning up 17th Avenue right onto the expressway and I have had to wait 5 or 6 light changes sometimes to get in there. So I might go down S. Bayshore to 25th Road. Mr. Plummer: If I understand correctly, what we're then talking about is a "No Right Turn" on the South Miami Avenue entrance to Bay Heights between 4 and 6. Mr. Mr. Cole: Only 5 days a week and a flashing warning signal. Plummer: Fine, if you can get it. Cole: Only to Tigertail. Then Alatka would remain two way... Mr. Plummer: Well, it is two way all the way now turns off of Alatka. Mrs. Gordon: There would be no left turns. one-waying it, J.L. anyway. ` There would no left n fact, the discussion went about Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, let me follow this down. What about all the way down Alatka "No Left Turns from 4-6"? Do you understand what I'm getting at? I thought that you were going to make Alatka one-way to Tigertail. Mr. Plummer: I'm not... Ed, please. Somewhere along the line this thing has gotten out of context. I'm not trying to railroad anything. I'm trying to accomplish one end which we all are trying to accomplish. Allright, now that would be no left turns off of Alatka anywhere on Alatka - all the way. And then no right turn off of Bayshore onto Halissee from 4-6, the same hours as the ent- rance to Bay Heights. Mr. Cole: Ok. We've tried to look at this considering Natoma Manor, the Bay Shore people and the Alatka people and the Tigertail Association. Mrs. Gordon: May I continue, because it is an important part of the effectiveness of the no right hadn turn at Bayshore that Tigertail not become the through street. So in order to avoid that, J.L., thought was given that it could be one-way travel- ing towards Bay Heights, only one way. That way it is even better than one way because it is a one-way street and people seem to respect not going up a one-way street for fear of hitting a car that is coming on, So that might be a part of our consideration. Mr. Plummer: Well Rose, I have no objections to that escept you know the one-way utrect is in effect 24 hours a day where we're only trying to accomplish from 4-6. You sue, the problem is going to be up to you, Mr. Manager, to enforce this thing. L.ct's don't kid ourselves, if you don't come in there and enforce it it isn't go- ing to work. Mr,torsi Well, me put the barricade ih as an .altertiatitte to you thinking that this might be a lets eftpet tive thtbree eht than tryis g tb it a police o fficer there. The Mayor's suggestion a the mechanical am would still be evet cheaper. Mrs, Oordoni would like to hake a practical suggestion from the standpoint of investment of funds to begin a Mechanical arm with the time device and that t ort of thing to try the first one first tt,r a specific period of ttme and ,you people are going to be working Ch this containuI ng task p g€orcye. ¢ it think all of you have signed up, 1 don't think we've found the total positive wonderful solution but We have something that we can start, perhaps, Other things ware mentioned, ,I. b. , like bumpers and that shocked a lot of people and there is another one called ribbons and I doh't know if everyone here or those who were here the other nightknow that there was a ribbon, is on the roadway. It isn't as dangerous as the bumpers which can cause a ear to veveer off to the left or right or whatever. but the ribbons apparently cause the car to slow down and if 1 lived it Bay Heights I would want to be just as concerned with the speed of the car as 1 would with the number of cars. And anything that is safe that could be installed on the roadway that would slow the speed Of the car would be interesting to me. o.. Yes, of course, because like 1 said the other night, wasn't trying to be facetious I mean you really don't care whether it is a commuter that hurts your child or a resident, If your child gets hurt by a car that's it. So if you slow the traffic you have that kind of precaution. The most that you can have by way of regulating traffic.., Mr. Cole: May I make just two other short comments? One, I think we ought to thank the Department of Transportation for putting up the fine sign they did showing the streets that are in Bay Heights. I would recommend, however, that the Tigertail Avenue sign be taken down as quickly as possible because that is telling people coming down Bayshore, "Come on in fellows, this is the short way to Tigertail." It never should have been up there to begin with and it is the top street and it is the first thing that, hits your eyes - Come into Tigertail. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, there is only one person involved and unfortunately he happens to be a good friend, that's Bob Hurwitz who you know well. I'm will- ing, let me put it this way, if you're willing to put the needed personnel in there for at least... Well, I'll leave that up to you - to enforce this thing. I'm willing to try it on a 90 day basis. Let's see what happens, evaluate at the end or before the end of the 90 days and let me summarize what I understand and you correct me if I'm wrong; (1)Would be a No Right Turn off of S. Bayshore between 4 and 6, weekdays. Mrs., Gordon: Monday through Friday. Mr. Andrews: And we would physically barricade it. Now do I understand that would be the entire entrance, not just a right hand turn? Mr. Plummer: No. Just into Bay Heights. . Andrews: Just right hand turn so people could still Plummer: Right, definitely. Mrs. Gordon: May I make a suggestion? The way I intended to present this to you so that you can then either say accept it that way or modify it or not accept it. I was going to ask or rather suggest from the summary of my feelings after that meeting that no right turn on S. Bayshore Drive entranct to Bay Heights be- tween 4 and 6 be done on a trial basis with the stipulation that is provided in (1) which is the flashing sign which "No Right Turn", flashing warning signal and "No Right Turn" sign; that if this didn't work and we'd had 60 days to evaluate it then we could go into a mechanical device. The mechanical device unless it is just on half of the street would prevent exiting. Now there has never been any discussion about exiting before. Nobody seems to be opposed to the exiting from that and the mechanical device would preclude that unless it is only on one half. Mr. Cole; Mrs, Gordon, the street is so wide and there is a concrete barrier in the middle separating the ingress and egress,,. So just on the right hand side would .,all that would be required for the mechanical arm. Mrs. Gordon: l haven't any objection, I would like to %now what the cost is of the implementation of these devices and whether the city has to bear it or whether the county will do it, Mr. Andrews, can you tell me that? Mr, Andrews; I'm not sure that ? have an answer, tlut eft Melt, the c uestiott is will you do it if the county Mr, Andrews; Well, if the COMMit016h directs its yes. Mrs. Gordon And like this City Commission is usually cautious about spend', ihg our taxpayers' dollars; we like to know how mush we're spending before w *end hd it. So could we then... i know that Traffic and Transportation does p,utih the flashing lights. That is your } esponsiblity. Wt iid you come to the microphote# Mr. Robinson. Mr. tl.oyd: Mr. Mayor, .. Are you from the county, sir? Mrs. Gordon: Yes, Mr. John Robinson. Mr. Lloyd: Now this is one thing we have to be careful about. Remember, that Ole county controls all of the traffic devices and what you're talking about tow. arm or flashing light or anything else is a traffic device so what you would be doing it requesting the county to install these devices. Mr. Cole: Will the county do this? Are you able to at this time at least with a flashing warning signal? Mr. John Robinson: We can put in the signal. As far as the mechanical devices I couldn't answer that. Mr. Cole: Well, we would start with the flashing warning signal, wouldn't we? And the barricade or the barricade with the police enforcement or the barricade without the police enforcement. Mr. Robinson: That would be up to the city to do that. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Lloyd, you're our attorney, can we legally do that now? Mr. Lloyd: Remember this with the barricade: Mr. Robinson has said the county has no objection to a barricade. Mr. Robinson: I said we would do the signs, I didn't say anything about barricad- ing. Mr. Lloyd: Well then still in all this is a traffic control. I' think that before we determine that a barricade should be put up and say we're going to do it I think that the county must determine whether or not they consider this a traffic control device which it is in effect and get permission from the ,:ounty,first for a barricade. Then you have to determine the length of time which is going to go oup and who is going to place the barricade there. Mr. Cole: . • There is a barricade that goes up between 4 and 6 in the City of Miami on Birdand U.S. 1. How is that handled? Mr. Robinson: That's part of Blue Dash. That isn't funded by the county... . Plummer: The greatest weapon in the world is a policeman with a ticket book. Mr. Cole: I think if he stayed for just several weeks I think that would probably defeat it initially... Mr. Plummer said that he thought a policeman there between 4 and 6 is the best enforcement. We didn't want to put the additional burden and the expense on the city and other taxpayers by requesting that so we asked for a flashing warning signal and a barricade as an alternative thinking that would be far less expensive. Mrs. Gordon: Well Mr. Andrews, would you like to speak to the... Mr. Plummer: The difference is we can do that immediately. The barricade would create problems. Mr. Andrews; I think what you ought to do is go ahead on the trial basis with the flashing light, let' see what we're getting into. We'll find a way of proper- ly policing it during this 4 to 6 for at least two to four weeks to see what occurs and then come back and evaluate everything that you've done. Mrs, Gordon; Right. Could we also make some controlling device at Tigertail and Alatka hecause we don't want the left turn going into Tigertail, Mr. Hummer: No. Wait a minute now. It was understood there would be n0 left -- turns off of Alatka at anyplace, MAY 221975 Olt::.,.a sigh that says tib left tuthe4 Mr. puller Oh Mieahbpy, Tigertail. Ohoway# Nod aiid Nethia Mt Andrews The traffic people mould have to agree to that. Mt. tobti of a w►ouid put in those signs if the eommissioh approved it. Mrs. Corder l thought that we were going to start with a ohs wayifg of the highway to Tigertail atd then two d,way from Tigertail to tayshore. That would therefore preclude Mr. Plummer's objectioh tes hey left turn ihto the other streets. Mr. Plummer: Well Rote what I'm going to do as part of this motion is to go ahead anti close off one street which is going to accomplish without question the same thing, closing off the intersection of Alatka and bixie would accomplish the same thing. Mrs. Gordon: Sees. but J.L., what l want to point out to you is that fine, but you have to realize that if you put no left turn oh those streets north of Tigers tail and we're going to close Dixie you're going to get people that get to the end of the road if it is still a two-way street and a guy says turn around and come back. So rather than bring them up there make it one way right away and keep them from going up. - bo you know what I mean? Mr. Plummer: hose, you've got the same problem... Alatka and you can't make two left turns you come to a dead end at Tigertail... You've got the same thing. That's right, he would make a right turn into Bay Heights and come all the way out... Mrs. Gordon Well, how many times do you think a commuter is going to do that before he finds out he has gone on a wildgoose chase? Once. Mr. Plummer As persistent as they are in our neighborhood they'd do it a lot of times. Mrs. Gordon: Eventually they're going to find out that it is a maze and they're going to not try it anymore. It is going to be a matter of finding out that it is hopeless. Mr. Plummer: Let me try to summarize this thing if I can. Let me go back to it. Paul, do you want to write this down now to see if we have any disagreement? Let's go through it. Off of Bayshore no right turn, 4-6 weekdays with a flashing light indicator. Mrs. Gordon: On Bay Heights entrance. Mr. Plummer: Correct. On Alatka that it remain two way with "No Left Turn" signs from 4-6 at every intersection from Bayshore to Dixie. The "No right Lurn" off of Bayshore onto Halissee from 4-6 with the same flashing indicator as at Bay Heights only during weekdays. The closing of the entrance at Alatka and S. Dixie Highway, we'll talk about Halissee later.' Mr. Cole: One other thing, please - the removal of the Tigertail at the Semana entrance as quickly as possible. Mr. Plummer: You know whoever did you an injustice there, it was... The name of. Tigertail off of the sign at the entrance of Semana. That should have been done. At 2 O'Clock in the morning with a crescent wrench it can be accom- plished. Mrs. Gordon: I think I'm in accord with you, J.L. all but the need for what you're saying of why you want to continue two-way traffic fromTigertail to the highway, Mr. Plummer; Ingress and Egress by the local residents, Mrs. Gordon: You mean so they can drive,but you won't let their go left, Mr, Plummer": Yes, but what about a resident that's on Tigertail and wants to go loft? He can't do it. You close that Alatka and Dixie and you're go- ing to stop it. Mrs. Ootdotii You i ft t tie able is go anywhere because you wo1't be able t got ihto * ., , Of to zit► ohto Not4=tee betaaue 'that Would be too Iatt4 'shay son't bt able to go bhto Nethia b-eealse thete wbt't be t►( le t. Mt, Cole: Right attaight down Tigettail to 1/th Avehue anti but....lett turfs cr t hg out of bay lfeights... 'you bah go straight through, ean't *6ul Mr. Piufimet straight through tb where? Mf. Colo: tt you •conic oitt of the bay heights ef!tt&h eat 'Tigertat go straight through Tigertail to get out Mr. Pith: tier: tNAtfbthb: Mr. Plummer: Adele, she snakes a good point. Make it one way, Paul. Make the treet ono way froth Alatka and bixie to Tigertail... with the closing of Alatka it still accomplishes the same' thing. t1NtN1ILL1GIf3LH Mayor Ferro: All right ladies and gentlemen, we're now beginning to ramble a little bit and I think this is another good example of what happens when you try to legislate or come to agreement by committee. Mr. Coles Mr. Mayor, we're pretty much in accord here. Mrs. Gordon: The committee is in accord on the problem you assigned was the problem of the Bay Heights residents and how they could have from the commuter and this does give them initially at least...' Mayor Ferre: Well why don't you then outline what the conclusion'is so we can then vote on it. Mrs. Gordon: The conclusion is that there be in the following manner of a temp- orary basis of 60 days to try it a "No Right Turn" at South Bayshore Drive ent- rance between 4 and 6 P.M. Monday through Friday with a flashing warning signal and "No Right Turn" sign plus provision that Alatka remain designated two-way traffic between Tigertail and S. Bayshore Drive with a no left turn at Tigertail. At this point in time and for 60 days this should give us a reading on whether or not the no right turn on Bayshore is going to have any affect that is beneficial to the residents. Mr. Plummer: Now wait a minute, you haven't addressed Halissee, Rose. And you haven't addressed.... Mrs. Gordon: No, I haven't because that is another; you, know you were talking about closing Tigertail and itsaffect upon the neighborhood of Bay Heights and this is what we were primarily addressing was that point. We're not saying we solved all of the problems of Natoma and South Bayshore Drive residents either but we do have a group of people who volunteered to be a task force who will come and meet again to try to resolve the rest of the problems and I would sug- gest that we adopt this portion today and that we meet. The task force has 17 people who signed up to become involved and maybe three or four more will want to be involved and with a committee of that size I'm sure you're going to have enough viewpoints to solve not only Bay Heights but I think we've come up with something worth implementing now. Mr. Plummer All right. Rose, are you talking also about the closing of Alatka at Dixie? Mrs, Gordon: No, I'm not taking that up at this time, J,L,, because the "No Left Turn" signals that you have indicated you wish to have placed will take care of that for the time being. That is a separate public hearing. I think it should be handled as a separate public hearing. Mr. Plummer; I disagree. These people are all in accord with it, there is no disagreement with it and there has to be if you do not put a "No Right Turn" at Halissee and Bayshore you are inviting every care that comes down Bayshore to make a right turn. You have got to put a "No Right Turn" off of Bayshore onto Halissee, Mrs. cordon; oh yes, if you wish to have that that is alright with me, MAY 22197 111/ . Colt: Permanent, of from 4 to 1t i r 11l Tief'�!{ 'our to gilt, t'leBaffle ass Mt, }� C, Colt: e§ tt tedd of tolling d6ih Alatka That should be in there. Mrs. Gordon: Oki fine. We'll include that in the tttotibh they that there aitO to “No fright Turn" yin Haiissee. Itt other wotd,J f#alissee and Bay Heights entrance, ;:emana, will have "fro Bight Turns" flashing signals. Pight Mr. Plummer! 1 want to amend it, There is tzo oi;jectihn to the closing of Alatka end :biitie 'which is a tremendously dangerous intersection. There is accidents i here, frosts all day and all night and I think that has got ti3 be a part of it. Mrs. Gordon: d.b., I'M not objecting to it but I do believe in all fairness that this was not called as a public hearing to close those streets and that We should have such a public hearing. Mr. Plummer; I disagree. It was a part of the original proposal, it is still part of the public hearing and as far as I'm concerned I can tell you witnout`a question everybody in flatotna Manor is in favor of it. It is dangerous and I Will offer that as an amendment. Mrs. Gordon: I would ask you, J.L., in all fairness to people that we did not let them know that that was coming up today the suggestion of finding a solution to Bay heights was the subject of the meeting primarily the other night. I think that you could call this for the next commission meeting and it would be perfectly in order. Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll still offer it as an amendment. I think it has got to be. It is something... Mayor Ferre: Let's speak to the main motion and then we can get into the ments. Mr. Harold Burke: Mr. Mayor, my name is Harold Burke. I've appeared at the last Commission Meeting and I spoke the other night and what I would like to emphasize here is Mrs. Gordon's recommendation regarding the task force. I think that this could be the key to the problem. I think that any temporary recommendations should be just that - temporary. I'm wondering whether a 60 day trial couldn't turn into a 600 day trial if we don't put a deadline on it and also a flashing light in my estimation involves the expense of putting it in and generally when you get something like that in it never gets out. Now t am just as much if not more concerned with anybody of the safety provisions here. I raised two children in Bay Heights and I realize that possibly it was •it a time when the traffic was not quite as bad but the situation was still there. But in any vote I would like to emphasize that the commission take into account the fact that this is a temporary measure and should be changed or made permanent in the next 60 days. Actually, the proposals that have been put forth here and which have been summarized by Mr. Plummer, it appears to me unless I don't understand that I can't get into Bay Heights between 4 and 6 unless I go from 17th Avenue down Tigertail. Mr. Plummer: You mean coming from the north? Mr. Burke: No, if I want to get into Bay Heights Mrs. Gordon: No, you would turn on Alatka coming from downtown. Burke: You're talking about blocking off Alatka. . Plummer: At Dixie. Mr. Burke. At Dixie but if I'm coming down Bayshore Drive I cannot turn into Alatka... Mr. Plummer Yes, sir, Mr. Cole: The ballot calls for a two-way of Alatka from Bayshore to Tigertail, Mr. Burke, Mr, Plummer; It has nothing to do with that, sir.' Mr, Cole; I come from downtown, Instead of coming Mr ufket re Li ohly eye thitsg 1'M cOhNtaed 1iibtkid at Baynhatet Mta Carden: Net at bikie MighWay., Mr. Burke: I thiSUhderSta td,.... Mayer Ferret Yew Seep 'that'' a What the pro. lein Is ... Mr. Plufthert The intersectyttbn Of Alatka up at 1 Dixie will be blocked aM it will be fie way tr nt that £hterSeet16tt lip to 'igertail , Cmly1. Mr. Cole: only, but from Bayshore you and I can come down tayshore and instead of turning tr -Seftlana turn ih at the next corker of Alatka and turn right into Day Heights. Mr, Burke: All of which means that I"have to drive a half an hour further each evening and that sign which says if you were here you'd be home now doesn't mean anything... Another thing 1 think has to be taken into cnsideration 1 don't expect you people to do it here but I think the task force should and that is that water seeks its own level and so does traffic and no matter what you do we in driving our tars try to find the easiest way to get home and this is What is going to happen and I think the task force, this is going to be one of the biggest problems of the task force. Mrs. Gordon: Did you put your name on the list? Mr. Burke: I sure did. Mayor Ferre: Look, we can't solve everybody's problems but we have to do what the majority feel and what we as elected commissioners feel is the best for the community. Now I think we're arriving at something that makes some sense. It won't satisfy everybody but I think if we try it on a temporary basis we'll see and then we'll be back again. And I hope it doesn't take you a half an hour or more. Heck, I can get up to Hollywood in half an hour from here. Mr. Burke: I don't blame you. Mr. Mayor, I think this commission should be named Solomon and I_ think you'd be doing a fine job. Thank you. Mrs Gordon: I'd like to reiterate since I' had the distinct honor and pleasure... Mr. Lloyd: I wonder, Mr. Mayor, if I may have the indulgence of the Mayor and the Commission for one moment. Would Mrs. Gordon, the maker of the motion please make it very slowly so that we can get it down secretarially and prepare the appropriate resolution because at this point with all that has been going on we're slightly confused. So if you would, indulge us and do that. Mrs. Gordon: All right. I would then reiterate: "No Right Turn" at the South Bayshore Drive entrance of Bay Heights and "No Right Turn" at Halissee - Mr. Plummer, are you listening-- Between 4 and 6 P.M. Monday through Friday with a warning signal and "No Right Turn" sign plus provision that Alatka re- main designated two-way traffic between Tigertail and South Bayshore with a "No Left Turn" at Tigertail and Micanopy. In addition, the ... Now this is not in the motion but I'd like to speak to it to get your reaction, commis- sioners. You could either have no left turn on Onoway, Noc-a-tee and Nethia or you could designate the portion between Tigertail and U.S. 1 one way east towards the hospital which in my opinion is a more valid approach if the closure at Dixie Highway is to be a part of the consideration. Which do you wish? Mr. Plummer: If you take alternate (2) which includes the closing of Alatka at Dixie I will second the motion. Mrs. Gordon: And one-wayingit... One-waying it from that opening to Tigertail. Alright, I'll accept that as part of the motion so I'll reiterate Mr. 14100; Will you specify the alternative to add to the motion because we stopped the motion, We've got a secretary and we're trying to get this down in words. We stopped according to your direction at Micanopy. Mrs* tordot: I'll mart agains that that porno , b tweeri iti&ertail and N.6. I be deaiguated &heM A+ east towards the hospital and that the entrance of Alatka be 'doted at 'S i bixit highways Now I think I have the whole things Mr. Plummer: That its Wells I think it mould be better if 'rather aecO des the lnotibh since I'm in oi.veds I'll vote for its Mr, to biheeh t Are you going to put a time linit for the study/ Mr, Plummer: beset the corre;rtioh is that it is one way south, riot tant. Mrs. Gordon: Well, it is southeasterly there sb it is kind Of a hard way to designate a direction. It is Neither north, south, east or west it on an angle. tut ok, whichever designation indicates that it is one way towardsthe hospital call it that way Now it appears to me that a 60 day trial period should indicate whether or not this process is going to work and in the mean- time a task force shall meet and keep tabs em it and possibly offer the tom- mission some additions or deletions or amendments or whatever (night be nec- essary. Mayor Perre Ail right. And in 60 days, Mr. Manager, we would like to have this back on for a further review to see how it is working with the neighborhood so informed so. Mr. Plummer You can rest assured there will be one person there watching -me. Rose, can we designate that closing of Alatka and Dixie, vince for June 1st? Mr. Andrews: What Mr. Grimm is going to do is put an ad in the paper, the city will put an ad in the paper just to let the public know. We'll put up a temporary barricade nowt we'll alert the police and fire so that they're aware of the con- ditions there and then after the trial period of everything is satisfactory it will become permanent. Mr. Lloyd: with your indulgence, sir this is a resolution requesting the county to install these appropriate traffic controls for this. Mrs. Gordon: Yes. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner moved its adoption. MOTION NO. 75-488 Gordon who A MOTTO QUESTING THE DADE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO INSTALL PROPER TRAFFIC DEVICES IN THE VICINITY OF BAY HEIGHTS, NATOMA MANORS AND BAYSHORE DRIVE BETWEEN ALATKA STREET AND 17TH AVENUE FOR A SIXTY DAY TRIAL PERIOD. Upon being seconded by Commissioner and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Rev. Theodore, Gibson Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Gibson, the motion was passed Mr. Lloyd: Now what we'll have to do is draw this up in resolution form. Mrs. Gordon: I have another, before Mr. Robinson runs away I want him to hear this because it's his department has to handle it. When I spoke to Mr. Mc Naughton the other day he suggested another aid to the problem of S. Bayshore Drive traffic besides widening it which no one is in favor of. Would you remind him, and if it needs a resolution of this commission I would so offer it; that the traffic signal light at 17th Avenue be resignaled so that there is more time for traffic to flow on Bayshore and you know the rest, Ok? I'll move it, That is the traffic light at 17th Avenue be resignaled to give more time for the green on Bayshore, He said this would help., The preceding motion was introduced by, Mrs, Gordon, seconded by Mr. Reboso and passed and adopted unanimously. • 6g MAY 221975 c. Gordon boil, Mac tntyte is here oh the same subject, Mt4 Mayoi tars. bol y Mac liityre t thte is another part to this thattet •andthat is the t3ayshote 'brive problem. Those of us who live on Bayshore have t w sat through ffany houifs bf the fray 4ieie hts ptbbleMs and though t don't thihk Weire going to require equal tine we would like a chance to be heard and to Offer stir suggest= ibha fbr our Oft problets. Mayor Pertet Mt. Ahdzews, would you schedule it then for a future dtsmrnisstof Meeting so that we will,, i don't think we can do it today unless you want to Wait. Mts. Gordon: t believe, Mr, Mayor, that since the discussion the other light did also tevolve around the problem of Bayshore that a motion on this also nhould be made today and I would like to offer the motion that this cotnnislioh reiterate its intention not to widen South Bayshore Drive. Mayor Terre: There is a second on the motion. Is there further discussion? You know what we're talking about is that 6'3" or 6' or whatever it is on that. left turn lane. Mr. ?Andrews: Yes, the city certainly will not advance any proposals to widen hut remember that this is a county arterial and when you do this what you ought to do is direct your resolution to the county not to the city. Mrs, Gordon: We direct it to the county emphatically and after the motion passes I will then make another statement of fact. Mayor Ferret' Plummer, we're now moving not to widen Bayshore Drive, leaVe it as it is. This is the sense of this commission to Metropolitan Dade County Traffic. Mrs, Mac Intyre: This would also mean there would be no turn lane added. Mrs. Gordon: We want no widening of Bayshore Drive, none whatsoever. Mr. Plummer: Let me say this for the record. I have no objection because all of the people who live there don't want it and I<can't go against those people. I do think that there are going to be other problems created for the additional traffic on South Bayshore Drive and I would like to see that the Traffic Depart- ment come up with some other solution to help alleviate the traffic on Bayshore Drive. Because you know, let me tell you what really scares me, Rose and it scares me and it is a long range thinking. The minute Coco Plum Plaza which is not even in the City of Miami goes into existence with some 2000 people you know and I know what is going to happen and I don't want to see the county play a game of catch-up when these 2000 people start traveling through Coconut Grove and onto Bayshore Drive to get to downtown Miami. So I want to put the county on notice now that they had better start giving some thinking that these streets that are existing there today are so overcrowded that they can't hold anything else and they had better start thinking about those 2000 units that are going to go in Coco Plum Plaza to bring additional traffic. And as far as I'm concerned I have no objection to voting against any widening of South Bayshore Drive. As a matter of fact, this commission is already on the record and it is really just reiterat- ing that position. Somehow or another that policy in fact was broken by Metro- politan Dade County when they in fact widened Bayshore Drive from the entrances of Mercy Hospital without anybody's approval but their own and there is in fact now a double lane that exists there. Now how that came about I don't know but I have no objections to that motion. I'm sorry, S. Miami. What difference does it make, it's all one road. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon who moved its adoption. MOTION NO. 75-489 1 MOTIONgXPRESSING AND REITERATING THE POSITION OF THE CITY COMMISSION NOT TO PERMIT ANY, FURTHER WIDENING OF SOUTH BAY SHORE DRIVE SPECIFICALLY FROM AVIATION AVENUE TO MERCY HOS- PITAL. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote. 30 MAY 221975 Mrt. t 6rdoni Mrt. > ae l ,tyre name with a very valid and A' vet efeellant tuggesticn ter the prefer atien of South i aythore §rive at,d t mould ker to ten you i hat it i'e4 She told its the other night. Itrs. $at 1tityre t 1 would like to rec uett that this eotrintiasi n pass a reso .t to ibh urging that South taythore br .ve, South Miami Avettiue be &eelated a historie highway lib Old Cutler hat been ao deelated. Tilt will segue to protect the toad at it it now aria the city at thin time ear be it favor ot keeping 'layahore as it it at you possibly east be so that it the State fit i lorida decides to widest that that road we've got a problem. If this; is done at the Mate level it till rem quite an aet of the legislature. the will have tonne pretty good proteetien and i would like to auk this eo mitaibn to pats a resolution urging this designation fot thin highway, Mts, Gordont 1 would like to trove that and that we tend this immediately to our made telegatton and to the Speaker of the House and president of the Senate letting them kt►ow that we feel this is an urgent bit of legisation that should be enacted this legislature before they adjourn. So I'so move Mayor t'erre t All right. 1 might point out that this commission has ih the past gone on record as you may remember, Mrs. Mac Intyre on this very same matter, I think it is 'important though at this time to reiterate our feelings. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon who moved its adoption. MOTION NO. 75-490 A MOTIONURGINGTHE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION OF THE STAE OF FLORIDA TO TAKE NECESSARY STEPS TO HAVE SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE DECLARED AS A HISTORICAL HIGHWAY AND INSTRUCTING THE CITY CLERK TO FORWARD COPIES OF THISMOTION TO THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Rev. Theodore Gibson Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 31 MAY221975 1CHANGE '1t V 1�I W t AT fN litti AV 0 DIM Ht&t4WAY AND t ftD AV 1514AS t ONE -COCONUT Gik4ZN STUDY tie4 Mfrs Mtge At;to i Mayt i arid tetbers of the comMissiebi this is the seeot d reading en PhaSt 1 of the plan1'iint Study for C oeebUt trove and the Amp that it fits tht waif for your inspeetion indicates those portions et the phase 1 area which are tototttbdtd for cr ranissioht attieh today. if you will note there are two .areas that are etossi atehed that are rPtommtbded be deihted trots coMmission actiot today and sent back to the Planning Advisory i3bard for action by the board in a iti ieetioti with the 1 CC toning ordinance and applieati n. That very simply summarizes and t want to point but to the COMMiStioh ` if the c6Tmit;Sib1 recalls Mr. Calhoun was here representing the owber of the Mot Shops pteporty plus alto his interests in that area that is aireetly adjacent tO the CI4A area. We had told him that we would recommend it'C for that and l believe there is a lady in the audience whc, will speak to that portion of the phase l property that is adjaoent to the C-IA area that presently is toned k=2. briginaily we had rccotttended A-2 for that but we believe that the purpose of the Coconut Drove study would better be served by an it -CC deeiynation. Mayor vet e! All right. Now we have the objectors. gout' name and address for t:hc record, please. Mr. Maurice Cutner Mr. Mayor, my name is Maurice Cotner. I'tn an attorney representing Mrs. Berger who is a property owner who I think this gentleman alluded to. My office is at 1840 Coral Way. Mayor ferret Which property are you talking about specifically? Mr. Cutner: Mr. Mayor, my client owns property on the corner of U.S. 1 and Bridgeport where the indicator was just placed on the map. She has been a resident here since 1930 and has owned the property since 1955. We strenuously object to any attempt to make this a residential location. If, you would like to hear my presentation at this time I'm prepared to make it. Mayor Ferre: How long will your presentation take? Mr. Cutner: I think that I can summarize Mrs. Berger's position in about 5 minutes. Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen of the commission, I think that all of the hours that you've spent at this meeting and with your task force com- mittee and at the last commission meeting whichI attended which a large part were spent on a problem that involved traffic on U.S. 1 points up in large hart what our position is. Namely, it would not be beneficial to the people of the City of Miami and the people who reside in Dade County to zone Mrs. Herger's property for a duplex. This property fronts on U.S. 1 with 150 feet. The property has been zoned commercial for many many years. I have pictures of the property which I'll show you. WE all know that U.S. 1 is perhaps the most heavily traveled arterial highway in Dade County. We have commercial property next door in the form of a four story apartment building and the park- ing lot of this building backs up to our property. A block or two down the street we have a discount store, a grocery store, a large shopping center; across the street from our property are housed large spools of wire and other equipment on one corner. On the other corner across the street from us is the Boys' Club and this is certainly not a duplex neighborhood. We have a recent appraisal on the property indicating the property value is approximately $96,000_for this 14,000 square feet of property. Obviously the highest and best use of an $86,000 piece of vacant ground because there is an old frame house on it that has little or no value would not be for a duplex. I don't think that any of the commissioners or anybody in this room would build a residential duplex on this property. I would like to point out to the commission that Dixie Highway is only going to get busier. It is the future area for rapid transit plans which have already been initiated on all levels of government and after all of these years when Mrs. Berger has owned this property now has a for sale sign on it to tell her that she should tell her potential buyers that they can build a duplex on it in view of the property that surrounds it would just be a travesty to her and I don't think that it is within the spirit of what this commission has in mind, I believe this commission has in mind in preserving Coconut Grove and when you think about Coconut Grove you think about the foliage and the palm trees and the pretty old houses and the narrow streets, I don't think this applies to the corner of U,S, 1 and Bridgeport where this property is located. Now I have a series of pictures here which I'm going to show you, I'm not going to spend a lot of time showing you the pictures because all of you drive up and down U,S. 1 and the only reason I'm going to show you the pictures is to show you where the property is located so that you can see how unfair it would be and how unworkable it would be to, make this duplex residential property. INAUDISL ,..and the point is simply this; With a four story building next door built by Dixie Investmnent-- 1 32 MAY 2 2 1975 to paiwlt just a ears ago iheidehtally Uha happens to be a client of i itt how can yb1 tell Mrs* berget or ahy investor or anybody who is looking to buy this property that even though this large apartment building exists next door each though the property fronts on t g. 1, the Busiest highway§ that you should zbh0 this dup e*. It just doesn't make ahy setse4 The neighboring property dolt n't cetttbrfl to duplex 2oting and to just reverse the thinking we ,mould never t:nt,tider putting t .t. l through a duplex neighborhood. it just wouldn't make s+ensti and to reverse it it just doesn't t la;.e for good government to require duplex lohih •Oh if * B. 1 especially since this It it: the nature of a rollback* And for all of these reasons we suggest that this particular property be excepted. Mayor Ferret All. right. I think he makes some sound arguments. discussion Mrs. Gordon: Mr Acton, why do you want that to be duplex? Mr. Acton: My recommendation to the commission is to not act on the property in question. Do you follow me? In other words the crosshatched areas... No planning study is infallible. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, that tells it all. Mayor Ferret All right. In other words you recognize what he is saying is that we not do anything at this time on that property. Mr. Cutner: Which would mean that the present zoning would stay. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. Mr. Cutner: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The R-C would remain in effect. Mayor Ferre: Is that correct, Mr. Acton? He says does that mean that R-C will remain on that property? Mr. Acton: No, sir. Mayor Ferre: Well what does it mean? Mr. Acton: Well the commission is going to take no action - we're exempting action on this property. It is zoned R-C but our recommendation is not for R-C. We're just telling you that you should not take any action on this prop- erty today but send it back to the Planning Advisory Board. Mayor Ferre: In other words we're going to send it back for more study which means it remains R-C until it comes back which is what they said. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I think that the party that just spoke has a right to know what to expect... Mr. Cutner: Let me just point out one thing, Mr. Mayor. We were at the last meeting and we've been at this meeting and no one told us that the recommendat- ion had changed until just now and if this was the situation certainly we would not have come down here. I think that my client has some procedural rights to know what is going to happen. I don't think that we should be dragged down here every couple of weeks at the whim, and I say this with all due respect to the Mayor, the commission and the department, of the department to determine when they make a recommendation and what it is going to be. Mayor Ferro: I think he has a valid point again. Mr. Acton: I agree. Mr. Cutner: I'd'also like to point out, Mr. Mayor, that the property is for sale. It has been for sale and when we show the property if we're going to be honest with people we have to tell them what's happened. If we tell them that we're up in the air they may have a closing and then the next week you're going to roll the property back so the man can't build R-C and we're back in here fighting duplex again - I don't think we're being fair to any potential purchaser, Mrs, Gordon: Mr, Acton, would you kindly tell us the portion you wish to ex- empt we understand but what are you recommending to the east of it? Mr, Acton; That's R 4, MAY 2 2 1975 that ' your tedoWMCndatibb tot that to t probably will be the itC. Mrs. Goldoni And what does that include specifically/ Mr► ALtoh! Commercial office development... Mrn Gordon. Office development, a limited 'height restriction? How high? Mtn. Acton Yes. t think it is three stories, ° otrmissibnet Gordon.. Mrs* Gordon: Three stories but it does allow apartments also and/or Mr. Acton: In connection. flight. Mrs. Gordon 'then in other words what he*s saying is they're going to go back but in all probability the recommendation will be to conform to the next prop- erty. Mr. Cutner: Can we get an indication so that we can tell potential purchasers how long it is going to be before there is going to be some action taken? Mow long do we have to stay in limbo? Mr. Acton: Yes, this is scheduled for Planning Advisory Board Action on June 4th. Mrs. Gordon: Is your recommendation to them to be that it conform to what your recommendation is to the east? Mr. Acton: No, I said R-CC. To the east of this property is R-4. Mrs. Gordon: I know, but your recommendation of R-CC is it only to this piece of property or the rest of the property? Acton: No. It is applied to all of that area that is crosshatched. Mrs. Gordon: well, that's what I asked you. Well then in other words these people can anticipate R-CC. (INAUDIBLE) It hasn't been passed yet. A catastrophe could happen between now and then but his recommendation is leaning to conform to the property to the east which is his recommendation. Mayor Ferre: I think you understand; in my further discussion on there a mtoion? This the position is clear. opinion it is favorable this item? If' not with is an ordinance. We have to move on. So I think to what you're saying. Is there the exceptions as outlined, is Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Acton, I can read the ordinance as written and you make the, necessary changes in the zoning map to conform to the exceptions. Is that correct, sir? Mr. Acton: That's correct. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPRE- HENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON AREA BOUNDED GENERALLY BY FRONTAGE ON SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY, S.W. 27TH AVENUE AND BIRD AVENUE (PHASE I) FROM R-C (RESIDENCE OFFICE), R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE), C-1 (LOCAL COMMERCIAL), C-4 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL) R-2 (TWO FAMILY), AND R-3 (LOW DENSITY MULTIPLE) TO R-3A (LOW DENSITY APARTMENT), R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE), C-2 (COM- MUNITY COMMERCIAL) AND THE PROPOSED C-2A (SPECIAL COM- MUNITY COMMERCIAL), AS SHOWN ON EXHIBITS A AND B ATTACHED HERETO AND MADE A PART HEREOF; AND BY MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT MAP, MADE A PART OF THE SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871, BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III, SECTION 2 THEREOF; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION, MAY 221975 Panned on itn first reading by title at the meeting of Apr ID, 19, i;iken up for its second and final reading by title and &9 ptIan rat otit h et 'Commissioner Plummer, nae61%ded by ttmminnienet Atbone the ,ntdinaves was thereupon given Its snood and final reading by title and panned and adopted by the following vete! #y ; Commissioner Maneit Reboso Canmi sn iener Rise Gbrdot COMMinsierier MeV') ThtbdbtL Gibson Vies Mayer J4 L. Plummer, 4r, Mayer Maurice A. Perre NDt5; Nbne Chi I ANC VAS DES7CNATEb tAbINANCt htb• 8402. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City CoMeisaion and to the public. AMEND CITY CODE AM on ?mmr + ;MmITt r't• ESTABLISH AREA AT MARINE STADIUM FOR UTILIZATION OR CAMPER TRAILERS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTIONS (6) AND (7) AND ADDING A NEW SUBSECTION'(8) TO SECTION 2-48.2 OF THE CITY CODE; FURTHER AMENDING SECTIONS 38-54.1 AND 39-24 (e) FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AN AREA AT THE MARINE STADIUM FOR THE UTILIZATION OF SELF-CONTAINED CAMPER TRAILERS; AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FEE AND SUCH REGULATIONS NEC- ESSARY TO CONTROL AND MANAGE THE OPERATION OF THIS FACILITY; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, CONTAINING A SEVER ABILITY PROVISION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of April 22, 1975, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre THE ORDINANCE WAS, DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8403. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. 35 MAY 221975 22, AMEND CITY CODE MOUIREMENT AN COINANCE CIE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 64 OF THE CODE Off' ,THE CITY 6P MIAMI, t LOAIDA, (ORDINANCE NO. 0101), PRO.. VIDING POR MMObIPICATIONS TO: (1) WAIVE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FOR TREE REMOVAL NECESSARY PGA LANba. SGAPE MAINTENANCE OR GOOD HUS9ANDRY, (2) PROVIDE THAT THE CITY MAY SEAR THE COST CP TRANSPLANTING TREES WITHIN THE CITY, AND (3) SIMPLIFY APPLICATION f E¢UIREMEN" S t REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECT-. IONS OR PARTS THEREOF' IN CONFLICT INSOFAR AS THY APE IN CONFLICT AND CONTAINING A SEVERARILiTY PRO.. VISION. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of April 22, 1975 Liken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. (m motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Terre NOES: None THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8404. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. PRESENTATIONS, PLAQUES CERTIFICATES ETC, Prganntati nn of com.pnA.tion to JorgeRodri, ue—:, for saving the life of a drowning person. Presentation of plaque to Junior Roberts of the Sanitation Department upon his retirement after 26 years' service with the City of Miami. Presentation of Plaque to Rev. Rudolph McKinley. . Presentation of commendations to three Amigos de las Americas volunteers, Tessie Gutierrez, Steve Lackey, and Jeff Robles. Mr. J. Moore, President and Mr. J. Langhorne, Vice President of LasAmigosde Los Americas Coral Gables Chapter present also. Presentation of proclamation for May 31, 1975 as "Mr. and Mrs. Nathan Goldv Day" for the occasion of their 50th wedding anniversary. F. Presentation of proclamation for May 21, 1975 as "Community Clubs Day in Miami" accepted by Laurel Shapiro, Community Club Awards Director for RadioStation WAIA. Presentation of certificate of appreciation to Manuel Molina. Presentation of proclamation for week beginning June 2, 1975 as "Royal Poinciana Fiesta Week". [, Presentation of retirement plaque to Thomas J, Johnston. Presentation of Inter City Towling Tournament Trophy to Mayer Ferre by Thomas Johnston, .!, Presentation of 8 commendations to coahces and members of University_ of Miami women's swim team who won the 414W National Swimming and Diving Championship at Tempe, Arizona in March, 6 MAY 2 1975 24 9/ VI PtRSNA'L APMISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSIM LETHAL YL1,f1N RESORT 1 AX 3 t L I SSE SLATIv L1 AS N DOWNTOWN V1 AU TAX ABATEMENT INTERAMA " `-JUV N I LE FACILITY SENAfit BILL 321 36 STA 27 AVE I Mr, hick Sisser: I'm going to to through a number of things that have been going Oh in Tallahassee. t think you're all aware there is going to be a new Senate President, that is ins of the major things they are doing today, The first thing than 1 am going to talk sbout is Lethal Yellowing which is one of the issues that the commission passed and I've had numerous talks with Bob Hector who is head of the Dade Delegation it the house and they're trying to get a $35,000 appropriation for further study from the University of Florida, try to get a bill through the house on Lethal yellowing and on the recommendation of Hector we decided not to since the appropriations would riot be there. That is one of the major problems we've been having all session long is the fact that there is no money and there is a shortage in anything that has a dollar sign attached to it is looked upon with great suspicion. The Resort Taxi two Resort Tax Bills were introduced but they have to go to finance and tax. Carl Ogden who is head of Finance and Tax is against the use of Resort Taxes and he has his own bill, House Hill 292 which is right now on the calendar in the house and we'll be discussing that a little bit later. i've been in constant contact with Mr. Williams of the Downtown Devel- opment Authority and on Senate Bill 547 we've been able to get both of these amendments tacked onto that bill and we'll be going before the committee this week and both of those amendments will beon the bill regarding tax abatement. I don't think the bill has much of a chance of passing this session this year but it should help getting it through both the Senate and the House next year since it is a constitutional amendment. The bills that I passed out to you were those bills on Interama. I want you to take a look at those. The committee sub- stitute or the pink copy that you have is Senate Bill 328 and Mayor Ferro: Let's make sure everybody has a copy of that. That was passed out earlier, Senate Bill 328. Mr. Sisser: Senate Bill 328 - it's Interama. The two major things you'll want to take a look at are the pink copy and the yellow copy. The pink copy is the 328 in the Senate and the yellow copy is the House Bill 1519. Mayor Ferre: Now let's get this straight. This was the original bill that Senator Plant and Saler put in which just abolishes Interama. Mr. Sisser: That is correct. Mayor Ferre: Then out of that. Mr. Sisser: Out of that bill came the committee substitute which is the pink copy which is now on the calendar of the Senate. And the parts, the only part that is of interest to us I feel is under section 7 and under that section (a) where it says that certain agreement entered into on June 12, 1972 between the City of Miami and the Inter American Center Authority whereby the authority agreed to purchase with revenues derived from the net operating revenue from the City of Miami a security repayment of 81 million dollars or the 93 acres. And that is what we are most concerned about. Mayor Ferre: that right? In other words it reconfirms in the bill this situation. Mr. Sisser: Right. Mayor Ferre: Now is that acceptable, John Lloyd, to the Law Department? Does that cover us? Mr, Lloyd: Yes. That is acceptable. I do have a question about the date. That was the date of the original agreement and then there was the subsequent amended agreement. We may have to make a possible change in the date but I'll check that out to make sure. Mayor Ferre; All right, make sure that it is,,, hell to change it, Well that's important that you check that out and You know because once this thing gets passed it is 37 AY 22197 Mri .Bitten Thetis oh the owlet dar haW4 Th+e Houee eofpatiittt whith is 1 has the gatte prOVition ih it and tight rdw it it ih appraptiatiefte. Mr dt haw Nt mayor and tiemhers of the Cammietiono yes totaenito that this is adopted this way and we fellow the payretit requirement§ that's its the agreement that would be 20 years or ens. mayor Pone: We eertainly ddti't wart that but t' ll tell yb'i what I want lees acid 'that s ttothitg 4 They could jut wipe ue cit. Mr. Plummer! bidn't I also understand that if they doti t be f the first payment they then are in default? Mr. Sitder: Yes, Mr. Lloyd: t4ew does this provide for the trustees of the Internal Improvement Iund to substitute themselves for the trlterama authority and take those respone sibiiities' Mr. Sisser Yes, that's in Section ]' Soard of Trustees Internal Itnprvethent Trust rued may lease to bade County approximately 3b0 acres; etc. Mr. Lloyds Yes This is the one I'n thinking of. Mr. Mayor and the commissioners what this hill does is it recognizes the agreement between the City of Miami and Interatna and I believe other agreements and then it provides that Dade County may actually lease some property from the State. Am I correct on that, Mr. Sisser? Mr. Sisser: Yes. Mr. Lloyd: the City of, Mr. Sisser: With the proviso that Dade County take other the responsibility for Miami quit claim deed and agreement from the board of trustees. That is correct. Mr. Andrews: Now Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, particularly if I may to Vice -Mayor Plummer, the default aspects that you speak of operate under that agreement that ifthey default and there is $300,000 in the first payment we'd get $300,000 prorational or 81/2 million dollars in terms of land we would pick up of 92 acres say two or three acres at a time. For each default you would pick up an increment of property equivalent to the $300,000 as prorated against the EA million. Plummer: How did we get into that trap? Mr. Andrews: It is in that agreement. Mr. Lloyd: That's in the agreemeht. This perpetuates the agreement. Plummer: Well, what are you recommending, Mr. Andrews? Mr. Andrews: I don't know what to recommend Mayor Ferre: Well obviously if we could we would like to get S1/2;million dollars but there is no way to do that. That's what I'm telling you. There is no way you're going to get this thing passed if you attach an 81 million dollar tab to it. I mean let's be practical about it. Let's get this and just forget about it. This is as good as what we have now. Mr. Lloyd: This preserves the agreement and gives Dade County the opportunity to pick up the agreement where Interama left off if Dade County wishes. Mr, Plummer: What happens if the City of Miami enters a lawsuit? Mr. Lloyd: For what? Mr. Plummer; That we either want our money or our land. Mayor Ferre; You can't do that because you've already..., Mr, Lloyd; You signed an agreement which provides for your rights under an agreement and they will be enforced according to the terms of that agreement, Mr, Plummer; We signed an agreement with a non -existing authority after this bill passes, MAY 221975 Mayor tette: 14b Mr, piumMett Yes tir. Mayor Parra: Wait a minute, listen. When you sighed the agreement there ma nomething Balled the Interama Authority. It is a creature •of the state. It ie a legally binding agreement enforceable in court, Mr Plummert Not with the State., with Interatt,A, Mayor Terre Which is a creature tt the State, Mr. Plummer: pine-, that doesn't mean anything. Mayor Ferret Yes it does. Mr, Piummert No, it doesn't. Mr. Lloyd: I'm sorry to disagree With you, Mrs Plummer. Plummer: Well then disagree, that's what t want to know. Mr. Lloyd: Yes, sir. We have an agreement and we have researched that and if the problem is that if the authority is simply abolished maybe the agreement goes out the window because of inability to perform and then we do something else... Not just a minute. I'm saying simply abolished. However, we have researched this quite clear... and then we don't know where we're at. This is the best we can get out of it is this fashion, to go by the terms of that agree- ment and preserve that. This is the best we can get. Mr. Andrews: t even carried, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, that one step further and Mr. Lloyd has reviewed that and that is that the purpose that this commission intended to subordinate its position was for Interama and entered into this agreement. If Interama does not exist then that purpose does not exist so we would revert back but Mr. Lloyd informs me that that is not possible. Mayor Ferre: Well let me tell you what is possible and what is going to happen. In my; opinion, I don't like this but that is the best that we can practically get. I think we ought to get it and keep quiet. Now secondly, where we're going to solve this problem is going to be when FIU expands and it needs to expand and it needs more land. The only place they can logically do so is on our land. So at that point it will be this commission's decision to work something out with the Board of Regents and either get our 81,million dollars or keep the land and develop it. Mr. Lloyd: This was exemplified in that meeting that was before Dade County that yourself, Mr. Andrews and myself attended where after you had lefr they tried to get us to agree that we would switch property. Mayor Ferre: That's right, which we, of course, said no. Mr. Lloyd: That's right. Mr. Plummer: I remember asking the question at the time of that agreement, "What happens if Interama doesn't fly?" and the response as I recall was, "It would all revert back to its original position." Mr. Lloyd: That's not in the agreement. The agreement provides for a specified schedule of default as Mr. Andrews has outlined. Mr. Plummer: I still don't understand how you can have an agreement with a party that now will become non-existent. ...... Mayor FerreBecause by law when a creature of the State is abolished the only one who can abolish it is the state. By law, when the state abolishes it assumes its obligation. Mr Lloyd: It has to constitutionally and that's all the state has to do, Mr. Plummer Mr. Mayor, then in all fairness, if you want to use the word fair- ness, the State of Florida should give that 93 acres to us and the other 300 to Dade County- That is our property. 39 MAY 221975 Perrot That it true: Mr, FiuTMett MOW why aren't they being f; County our property? Mr, Lloyd: N0, they're nuts Mayne Ptirret Where does fairness have anything to do With it? Mr. Lloyd.They're not giving bade County our property, That is What l atteftted to explain. They are offering,4 i haven't seen this present bill. I AMMO it is the same as the One t have previously had. Spit if it is the same as the one have previously had the State is offering bade County at its option to lease ter tain properties but included in the option is the specific condition that if bade County leases certain properties from the State located within the confines of the Interama perimeter that bade County dust recognize and assutte the obligations of tnterama with respect to our agreement. Mr. Plummer: John, that's not to the point. The point is if this is our why are they letting anyone else lease our land? It's ours. Mr. Lloyd: No, it's not our land! We have 92.6 acres, that is all. Mr. Plummer: That's all I'm talking to. Why don't they give us our 92.6 Mr. Lloyd That's a legislative matter. They don't have to. Mr Plummer: Fine but why aren't we fighting to make them or ask them to give it to us? We're not even' fighting for that, we're just laying down and saying Ok, do what you want we'll take it. Mr. Lloyd: Well, that's up to this cormnission. My information was that, and Mr. sisser can verify this, but my information was that they'll just abolish the Interama Authority and then do nothing or do nothing at all unless we sup- port this bill. Now how about that, Mr. Sisser, have you got any later informat- ion than that? Mr. siseser: They're trying to do it two ways. First of all they're trying to got it to the legislature; it was before the cabinet a week and a half ago. The cabinet decided to wait and see what happened with these bills before it decided to make a decision. Mr. Plummer: That's on the City of North Miami's property. Mr. Sisser Right, but it is basically the entire Interama problem. Mayor Ferre: It affects us. Mr. Sisser: Yes, because the next clause after the City of Miami is that those certain rights granted to the City Of North Miami pursuant to the same obligation be fulfilled. Mr. Plummer: By Dade County? Mr, Sisser: Yes. Mayor Ferre If Dade County takes it over And in my guess they won't and eventually what you're going to end up with is 93 acres which is fine - that's exactly what we want. Mr. Plummer: Well, I think you're going at it bass ackwards. I'll tell you... Mayor Ferre how would you want to go about it? Mr. Plummer: I think that there should be part of this bill that the 92.6 acres that is in the name of the City of Miami be given to the City of Miami. Mayor Ferro: The City of Miami already has the title to it, How can they give us something that we already own? Mr. Plummer: Mr, Mayor, they could give it to us now instead of making us wait 20 years, Mayor Ferro: They don't make us wait 20 years, we own the title of it, Let's 40 MAY 221975, go ant tiiig beeca t§e were getting all ctinfilted tin Oat', We OWt the title tst+ ita tgatty we own the title of acres that *Ore diteussit fOW4 There are bat provisions that are based Oh 'a cohtracttitai attangeMent been MIAMI and trtt'er na which •eot,tratturally oblige us to do certain this gtY Now amongst those c t rtain things it that if by the year give they, the tight to tite thit prop ttty for a specititd pbrpost that mutt be begun by the year tg' 6. tt it it trot btquh by the year 10/6 theft we °owt7 the property tree and 'clear and completely without ahy guestioti. There is a payment provision which meats that they would tray us over a period of tithe which would end up being about 20 yearly and it ehdt t4, btihg about $$600.,000 a year - $300,000 twice a year.. Now with that payment they will repay tis our 81 million dollars and when they finish then the title oft tht property reverts bade to the Authority that has bought it, Mt. Plummer: But what 1 don't understand, Mr, Mayor, is this. Why are they taking the property that belongs to the city and giving it to Metro bade County/ Mr, Lloyd: They're not, they're leasing it, Mr. Plummer: Pine, why are they leasing our property to another ehtity7 Mr. Lloyd: Now here is section 7: The Board of Trustees of the Interhal'Improve,- ment Trust fund may lease to Dade County the approxiii ately 300 acres of land and approximately 90 acres of abutting lagoon and waterways...desighated as the prim ary development area., » They're not the 93 acres owned by the city.'' Plummer: Oh, those are different acres? Mr. Lloyd: That's right! . Andrews: I think the confusion is over the 90.... Mr. Plummer: Paul, look... Mayor. Frrre: Paul, J.L. is branching up the wrong tree because he is getting confused on wordage. But you know what, in principle which is what we ought to be talking about the man happens to be right and I think we ought to go on record hcry saying, "Look fellow, all we want is our 92.6 acres. Leave us along and good by." Mr. Lloyd: That is a legislative discretion of the City Commission which you can do and we'll abide by it. Mayor Ferrer Because I'll tell you, I think if we do that, Rose, we'll end up with the property free and clear and eventually - the City of Miami can't use that property and it certainly is of no value to the citizens of Miami, they're not going to drive up there to go to a park or something - but then we can either develop it ourselves for boating purposes which I personally would be against as long as we have land like Dinner Key and others that should be developed first. Why should we go up to North Miami and develop their land, I mean their area... . Plummer: It sure puts us in a beautiful position for a swap. Mayor Ferre: That's exactly the point. Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, I want to get this clear. In Section 7 of the white sheet... Mr. Sisser: That is no longer in existence. The pink sheet is the Senate Bill, Section 7 of the pink sheet. Mayor Fcrre: Look, J.L., we're going to be here to 2 O'clock if we keep on talking. It is really very simple. I think this commission should go on record specifically -stating to just leave us alone, all we want is our 92.6 acres. Mr, Plummer; .,. Assuming that that 90 acres is not incorporated in the City of Miami, who then is going to be the owner or recipient of our 93 acres to pay us the thing? Mayor Ferro, Whoever takes it over, the State or Dade County, Mrs. Gordon; Weil ,1,L,, in effect what we have will be clear title and if any- one wanto to buy it they're going to have to pay for it. We'll name the terms at that tine, 41 MAY 221975 Mayor ltrrat In tIther words what we're saying. Mr. Andrews, ait., as 1 UhdetA ttafid.. , Vas, it's correct,, t understand a Tntien Or t ' seise of what this tiditni§§1611 i§ saying is that we would rather have 02zt aoreg free and altar than to have $t00.0bO a year for 20 years. NOW ate you making that motion. Peer/ Mr Plumintri Yes. 'sir. The following motion was introduced by Cdrelisstoner t lummer, who Moved its adoption: MOi'tON NO. 75.401 A MOTION EXPRESSING THE OFtICtAL POSITION OP THE CITY COMMISSION TO THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF PLORIDA, EXPRESSING THE DESIRE THAT THE CITY OP MIAMI' S 92.6 ACRES AT INTERAMA EE IMMEDIATELY DECLARED ?ttEE AND CLEAR AS OPPOSED TO PAYMENT `1'O THE CITY Off' $60000d0 FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARs. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion Was pa and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre, NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso Mayor Ferret Would you immediately send a telegram to the President of the Senate,' whoever he is and the Speaker of the House and... All right, Rick, you take them up and hand deliver them and then also to the Dade Delegation stressing, and just explain to them that this is getting too complicated. All we want is to get out 92.6 acres and be left alone. Mayor Ferre: All right, now the next thing I want to ask you about is the Downtown Development Authority with the concurrence of the Chamber of Com- merce and the City of Miami Commission requested that either a Missouri or a California Tax Abatement Plan be implemented. That requires a constitut- ional change. Where does that stand? Mr. Sisser: All right, at the present point in time. Senate Bill 547 is in committee. Both amendments that Mr. Williams asked for to be incorporated in the bill will pass committee. However, the house companion failed in its committee therefore there is very little hope of it going anywhere this sess- ion but what will happen is if the Senate Bill will be there with our amend- ments ready for the next session of the legislature we can get it through at the beginning of the session and then also push it through the house. So what the city wanted in the bill is now incorporated in the bill which it wasn't previously. Mayor Ferre: Well, that's good and it gives us a vehicle for next time around and this is a long long term thing but very important. I want to share with the members of the commission, if you ever have an opportunity for any reason to go Kansas City do it. It is absolutely the most fabulous middle-sized American city; it's growing. I want you to go look at Crown Center. That was all done with this type of legislation in Missouri and this is a terrific way of developing an inner city and it makes a lot of sense. That will con- vince as to how important this particular bill will be eventually. All right, Rick, what else have you got? Mr. Sisser: I have all the bills, most of the ones that, about 90% of the bills that the city has been opposed to have been able to either kill or tie up in committees to where they're not going to reach the floor this year. There are about three or four bills that like 321 that we need to talk about a little bit further.., Mayor Ferre; What's that? Mr. Sisser; That's the Aquatic Preserves creating 29 aquatic preserves exclud- ing privately held upland from the preserves, providing for creation of addit- ional preserves and for legislation confirmation, prohibiting the sale or trans- fer of sovereignty submerged lands except in public interest, prohibiting dredg- ing or filling except in certain cases, prohibiting the drilling of gas or oil wells, prohibiting the excavation of minerals and the erection of structures unless authorized and providing for rules and regulations for this, Now the area that pertains to us is the Biscayne Bay and Cape Florida to the Monroe County line4 Ted*te telling this the aquatic preserve as escrtbed in the official records bt fade County, Pat essgS1.41t(6 Mayor Verret Alright. Rote, you want tb express yourself bn that theta rake the motion MEIN GOrdbhi Mre Lib has to explain , . Mr. Lloyd: Quite simply, the big kicker in this is tectibn 2t8.17 which says, °with the exception of privately held submerged lands rather than filled lands_ lying landward of established bulkheads and privately held tU1ftterged lands within Monroe County where the establishment of bulkhead lines are nut required are hereby declared to be aquatic preserves." This gives the state control over it and there is a possibility that it could have some affect upon the 1919 act which gave the City of Miami title to a goodly, portion of Biscayne Bay. There are two which Mrs. Gordon suggests i ;wo resolutions which could be passed which would urge the legislature to take the following appropriate action;they have been distributed, NOW the resolution (1) which Mrs. Gordon and with which X , concur is the primary resolution is a resolution urging the Florida Legislature to amend Senate Bill 321 to exclude previously conveyed submerged land previously conveyed by the state of the trustees to private owners or municipal entities. You see what that does in line with that particular section. Mrs. Gordon: I would like to before we move it, Mr. Mayor, discuss with you the second one as to whether or not we should make the second one the primary one. The second one is a resolution urging the'rlorida Legislature to specif- ically exclude Biscayne Bay from Senate Bill 321 further urging the legislature to provide a special management plan which is to be developed by local govern- ment with State approval of the plan. Now this would give the Dade County and all fo its municipalities the power to set up an authority and to control our own waterways. Mr. Plummer: They have it. Mrs. Gordon: We don't have any official status. Mr. Plummer: What happened to Biscayne Bay Aquatic? Mr. Lloyd: Let me explain to you, this is amendment. By the way, Mr. Sisser has pointed out to me that the latest bill which we didn't have does not con- tain that provision I read to you. But even so, actually this is important for this reason that it could erode some of the control which the City of Miami may now have and what the object is to get more local control either by the manner in which Mrs. Gordon suggests. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-492 A RESOLUTION URGING THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE TO AMEND SENATE BILL 321 TO EXCLUDE SUBMERGED LAND PREVIOUSLY CONVEYED BY THE STATE OR THE TRUSTEES TO EITHER PRIVATE OWNERS OR MUNICIPAL ENTITIES. (Here, follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre the resolution was 'he € itaWith re al tib i MAe ihttoduebd by iCommi i5 d itt &ldt pt eh t RESOLUTION NO. '/t&4t1 A filsOUIT1 14 tRdiNd THt PIO tlbA ttdittATURt TO tPtCIPICALLY tXcttlbt titCAYNE PAY PROM StHATP tttyt 1214 PUR HER URC Nd tEdttLATUAt TO PiOVItt A tPf CIAL 'MANAdtMtNT PLAN mut= is To RE OtVELOPtb tY tOCAt bOVtRNMtNT Whit :STATE APPROVAL tP THE PUN. (Here foliowe body of resolution, omitted here ar;d bt file in the Office et the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Piuiimer, the resolution was passed arid adopted by the following Vote AYES: Cotntniseioner Manbio keboso Commissioner Rose Cordon .`6mmissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor at. L. Plummer, ,lr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Mayor Ferret is there anything else, kick, you want to bring up? Mr. Sisser authorizes amendments Yes. We need to talk about committee substitute 202 which an additional 1% local government discretionary tax with the which have been put into the bill. Whether or not the city is. . Lloyd: What I'm concerned with, of course... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Sisser: a little bit What are the amendments is the question? Well, there are a number of amendments passed that made the bill different and that I sent you down the copies of. Mayor Ferre: Well let me ask you thisk is the bill going to pass? Mr. Sisser: It is being pushed, yes. This is Ogden's bill and it is financ- ing tax and he is taking everything else, impact fees and everything else, re- sort taxes and put it on the side so he can get his bill passed. Mayor Ferre: Is it out of committee now? Mr. Sisser: Yes, it is. It is on th calendar in the house. Mr. Lloyd: However, I might mention this which is highly important. The bill calls for that the county may by ordinance provide for a referendum to; be submitted to the voters as to whether or not they want the 1% sales tax. Mayor Ferre: What do you mean "may", isn't it "shall"? Mr. Lloyd: No. Then it says, "And the county shall provide such providing t there is a 10% of the electors submit a petition to the county." And then you have a referendum submitted to all of the voters to determine whether or not they want the 1% sales tax. Mrs. Gordon: Rick, when is 321 supposed to be up, this week or next week? Mr. Sisser: It was not on for special order today so that means that it prob- ably willnot come up until next week. It is on the calendar, it was just placed on the calendar; the way they work it is is there is a calendar but the only bills that get onto the floor are those that are put onto special order. Mayor Ferre; Who is the chairman of that committee now? The Calendar, Mr. Sisser; It is the President of the Senate who will put it on the calendar. Rules and Calendar, Mayor Ferre; Well, who is the chairman of rules? Mr, Sisser; Off hand, I don't remember. Mr, Lloyd; There is one thing that we should do, f I may interrupt, Mr, Mayor, „ • 44 MAY 221975 Wr+ have just this moittent gotten a coley of the latest bill and what l';d better eft) with you, Mrs. Gordon and any other commissioner that wishes, this is 'yfi`tif l>t.iTf inttre_at, is to go over this bill the present bill with you very carefully ..i no later than t27fnotrdw Mottling and I'm availa at your 'coilvenietice at ytime twits tow foryourself of any cothttfli:s ioner. that wants to go over the bill. with Tea Mto. t;r,rdoh: Mr, Lloyd, they're having the suthmit meeting today at the Chamber oh thi:3 vt•ry subject and Mrs, Kory is it a,trndance oz our beha2! Mr,Lloyd: Mrs, } ory is fine but Mrs. Kory is not a lawyer and. Mts. Got -don: No, I'm just telling you that she'll bring us a report bf VilAt they did there today. Mt. Lloyd: I have the latest bill here and I. think you should be informed al; to what is in the latest bill and have it explained to you, NOW We can't do it today. Mrs, Gordon: Do you think we should so up there? A delegation from the chain- her, tht:y should be informed also. I'm trying to say they're going to need some local_ pressure to get this excluded. Mr. Lloyd: that I'm trying to tell you is that before; now we passed these resolution but I want to go over this bill very carefully with you because there are some significant changes that were not in the other bill is what I'm trying to tell you and you should be fully informed on this so that we know how we can proceed in this. Mrs. Gordon: Would you give me a copy tonight, I'll try to read then be prepared to talk to you tomorrow? Mr. Lloyd: Certainly. And I'll be available at your convenience tomorrow. Mayor. Ferro: Rick, when in your estimation is The session will not be extended will. it? Is there going to be an extended session? Mr. Si.sser.: No. They're talking about_ not even getting out early but I don't think they will. It'll end on Junta 6. Mayor Ferro: All right. I would say that.... You see our next commission meeting is exactly on June 5th and there are going to be some very very hot things coming up. I would say that we may have to meet before June 5th. So if there is anything in particular that you feel that requires... I personally will be up in Tallahassee on the noon flight on June 4th on a Wednesday. If there' is anything in particular that you think that I should be involved in then we may have to call a quick Commission Meeting and get the sense of the commission. If anybody else wants to go up they can do that or before. Mrs. Gordon: Before, Maurice because some of these things will be done before. Mayor Ferro: Well, that's what I'm saying each one of you will have to keep an eye on the different aspects that are of interest to you and then bring it up. If you need a special Commi.sfsion Meeting loot_ me know. I don't mean June 4th, I' meant Wednesday, May, 28th. I'm sorry, I don't mean June 4th, I mean next Wed- nesday, May 28th I'1.1 he .in Tallahassee in the afternoon... If there is anything you would like me to do up there ; 'ti be happy to do it. Mrs. Gordon: All right, between now and then we should consult with the cham- ber, Nee what action they took on this same matter and perhaps they'll send a delegate to go along... Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, what I would additionally suggest is that have Mrs. Gordon, ifshewishes, call Deloris,Kory and call her attention to make sure that the Chamber has this latest bill and if not they'd better designate somebody if pos- sible to get with me tomorrow. Mr. Plummer; I want this commission to go on record to the legislature. Rick, I don't know how to handle it, whether in a resolution or how but the thing that has got me the most upset of this whole session is the fact that the state is not finding the funds to complete this jeuvenile facility out on 35th Street and 27th Avenues, Now what does this commission need to go to do to put in your hands at this City Commission urges in the top priority that the funds be found to complete that facility? T'ht toi16Wihq tiotie vas introduced by COMMitblehtr plutttner ho ttbVed it adepttht MOTION NO la 4 4 A MOTteNhY THt CITY COMMtggtON ONOINC ttOtgLATUtet OP THt S 'A 'E OP PLORIOA Ag A t 1A{'*,� 'gait OP gTOP P ty1 kgtTV T*O.r ?1Nb fi1tpCgAg' t PONbg l-O 'COM�tNPE 1'H J 1 N1iut PACttittl S 'L•O ,Tt A�1' Nil , 2 TH AVENtJL AtRO 3G111 ST tT ► 'Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the Metieh and adopted by the following +rote- AYM�,s Cof `iiissiOner Rose Gordon Commissioner Rev, Theodore Gibson Commissioner Hanoio Jteboso Vice Mayer d'.L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None, Mr, Plummer: What do you want us to do? Mr. Sisser I think just a resolution. We'll bring it to the Majority Leader of the House and the President of the Senate. THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION RECESSED AT 1:10 P.M. AND RECONVEINEb AT 2:22 P.M. WITH COMMISSIONERS GORDON AND REBOSO ABSENT. ACCEPT PLAT - SALAR SUBDIVISION The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-495. A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED SALAR SUBDIVIS- ION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MAN- AGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution Gassed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Reboso. NOTE: COMMISSIONER GORDON ENTERED THE MEETING AT 2:25 P.M. was PERSONAL APPEARANCE PERMITTED HEIGHT flF HEINNS BETTY HAYES ALLEN i R 1 D NT . emptivry Ma. May Mayes Apes: My name ts tatty MAW Allan, ratty, 4 trap tie City of Miami polity tepattment and Yacht Docks, your Nar►oI mays. t '00 0 permissitt to read my copy of ti;e letter 1 sent you in April Mayor Ferrer please, go right ahead. Ms. Allem This is a copy of a letter i sent to the tdeyor in Apra olO nE tile hedge ordinance, ----"inclosed is a notice which I received en Apt 7 0 51 1 ins not borne at the time this was delivered. We live in a blighted lire+ hpre In Crapeland heights, due to the pollution from the heavy air ttaft$0 Pd very concerned about this tondition. t lost my husband who died fram'onptty e and he did not smoke. We are being choked to death by pollution and wi�need n11 the trees and greenery we can raise. Further details end harraseMent Will be given at my requested commission appearance. 1 aril therefore oolong for permission to appear and you have given it. This is the situation, 1 love beautiful scenery, --flowers,; trees, popery of any kind and when I look at our dying palms t am sure it ie due to pollution, not insects, although I am not an authority. I still maintain that we met`' rnise all the green growing plants that we can. One day while 1 was washing dishes in my kitchen, I checked the number of planes flying low over my homes and I am not in the flight pattern}, Thip Is an ordinary day, and I counted 19 planes flying overhead in 15 mingtP6 eo you must realize what filth is falling each day and night in thle community, About n year ago, the people living next door to me, called the zoning department rind t received a notice from them that my hedges were too high,'I Was e nt that time, so I had my hedges pulled out at a cost of $55.00 and then lead n cypress fence inatalled at a cost of nearly $300.00 which was a lot of money, living hH I was on social security and my pension. At each end of this fttipg i left about 4 arailia plants. These are the plants the people are cpmpa}in1.Py 4130ut. I called the zoning department and the zoning inspector came to my home agdagk me to try to do something about this ridiculous ordinance and I assured bite 1 would try. He said they do not have enough personnel to enforce this ordinacc and have more important things to do and that this ordinance should be abo1}pbe4, I have been checking numerous streets and find many hedges over 4 ft high-, for instance the West Flagler Dog Track. Mayor. Ferro: Betty let me interrupt you in the inerest of time, You are saying that the hedge ordinance that we have is unenforceable because we don't have enough people to enforce it No. 1 and No, 2 what you are Haying, what is the difference if somebody wants to have a 5 ft, hedge, why shouldn't he be permitted to have a higher hedge and what iq the lmp:ice of it. Mr. Andrews do you or anybody in the administration want to addreee yourself to that. Mr. Lloyd, City Attorney: Mr. Mayor just by way of information, we have n l rendy aHked , or our zoning man has already asked the conetat entq who are re -writing the provisions of the zoning ordinance under the new comprehensive water plan to address themselves to what are considered to be deficiencies In the section entitled 'Fences, walls and hedges' and it is also possible she wanted to submit it to the Planning Uepertmen(: for study but the consultant has been advised and told was -- Mayor Ferro; My personal opinion, this is justOnevoice, $r, Andrewm, No, 1 there is no way to enforce it unless you have a policing operation with 15 people just to go around all the time looking at hedges, No, 2 we have more important things to do, NO, 3 what is the difference whether a person has a 5 or 4 foot hedge, I don't think that impairs, there 100 to, be a time when we were concerned about things like but I think khat ie 00 prerogatiVE` of a homeowner if he wants to have a high hedge, that to to! h}o! problem, Mr, Plummer; Mr, Mayor I am not speaking in opposition to What yiN ors Fulyf ng, 1 rim only bringing to your attention, maybe what you didn't say, And It is my concern, l really don't think there is any difference between a 4 44 a a foot hedge, but there is a difference between e 5 foot and 12, 15 Arid �7 t hedge, and we do have some of these, My concern then becomes the filet AO 44 417 MAY22:1975, you were my te1ghbt t and yob didn't trim your hedge, quite totceiveabiy you could tut MI my sunlight, my air and evetythitig else, to l do fittd .a toneern, and 1 dotit titd any fault with that you said, the difference between a 4 or 51 Mayor Porte: betty we are tot gotrtg to solve it today, because there is ay this tottmtission Mrs, Mayes: tut sir, my cypress fence --understand thin is the back of my yard, this is not ttt the side, the side hedges ate 4 feet, the cypress fence is b 'teet, Mr. Plummer: I wouldni t see anything wrong if the fence went that high with the bushes going that high. Mayor Perre: We are not going to solVe it now, so 1 would like to ask the adtnitiistration to study this and have it go through the Platting Department and the Planning Board and bring it back to the commission at a future date and would you tell petty Hayes at that time so she can return and discuss it with us. Ladies and gentlemen, for those of you, that sometimes question or don't follow what happens at the City Commission when we listen to citizens like this, who have a complaint about a hedge, 1 want to make the point that that exactly is the great strength of having a two-tier form of government. You have a government here where the Commission will listen to a citizen who wants to talk about the height of his hedge, or her hedge. Some people may not think that is important, but it obviously is important to Betty and the fact that she is able to come before her elected commission to discuss it and either find satisfaction or told no, 1 think is a strong inducement as to why it is important to maintain a two-tier form of government like the city of Miami. Mrs. Gordon: May 1 ask a question of Betty, since I came in after you started speaking. Can she not have to cut her hedge down at this point, -- you don't want to cut your hedge? You want to keep it until a decision is made? Mrs. Hayes: Yes I would like to do that, if I have to cut it, I'll have to cut it, -- Mrs. Gordon: What we are saying is that they are studying a possible revision and if this should take place in the meantime you want to know what to do? Mrs. Hayes; That is right, ---- Mrs. Gordon: ---to live within the law? Mrs. Hayes; That is right, I don't want to go Mr.Andrews: The "ordinance provides for certain control criteria as f,as as hedges are concerned as to their heights. We are very careful in the way we administer this, if someone grows a hedge that exceeds the ordinance we don't go out and say you have to cut it down. We rely on the two neighbors getting along, and we respond mainly to complaints and make investigations hissed on the ordinance when one neighbor complains about the other's hedge. And that in the case in this matter, and so often we find ourselves in an area of moderator going to each party independently if we can't get them together ,and Mr, Perencik's people have done a reasonably good job -in administering this -matter and we will attempt toresolve it that way at this time until we get a different opinion as to our ordinance Mayor Ferre; Rose is asking a specific question and that is why it is good for us to have 5 members on the commission rather than one. See, I hadn't thought of that, but she got down to what is important, which is the nitty-gritty question as, to what does Betty do in the next three months. So what does she do? Mr, Andrews; We will try to talk to the other neighbor and see If we can't hold this whole matter in abeyance, but I can't guarantee that that will. occur. Mayor Ferre; You will have to take your chances. Betty, you come back MAY 221975 ydu get until trouble; Mtn, Cordon: if you get into anymore trobiems we are here. Mrn. Maytat Thank you very much, l tan sleep nights now. Mayor Terre:Thank you, PERSONAL. APP ARANC VIANNLS Li ANTONAO'S EXTEND FOUNDATION (IF CONSTRUCTION ' INTO A puaLtc ALLEY Mayor Ferret Yiannis Antoniadis, we will take up your item now. Mr. Andrews: 1 am recommending to the commission that the fence be removed. This is the foundation, --I would have to recommend against this. Mayor Terre: Mr. Antoniadis, regarding the extention of the foundation of the proposed construction which encroaches 3 ft. and 5 inches into a public alley. What did you do that for. Mr. Yiannis B. Antoniadis: Mayor Ferre I am proposing this because it creates structural problems, both physical and economic problems, these foundations were buried 4 feet under ground, and they are not encroaching on anything, it is one block dead alley, ---- Mayor Ferre: Yiannis I am lost, is this a building you built? Antoniadis: A building I am proposing to build, yes. Mayor Ferre: A building you are proposing to build, hasn't been built yet? You want to go 3. 1/2 ft.-into a public alley. Why -should the city of Miami give you that right? What'are'you going to do for the city of Miami? Mr. Antoniadis: What would you like me to do. Mayor Ferre: Tell me what you are going to give Mr. Antoniadis: It is an unuseable alley, us. Mayor Ferre: Un-useable alleys end up sometimes very necessary, you pay you want 3 1/2 ft. of public property. I don't own it, the people of Miami own it. You want to encroach on it. Mr. Antoniadis: I would like to have the premission to encroach on it with my foundations, it does not approach above ground. Mr. Andrews: The columns of building come right to the property line.' Mr. Antoniadis: This is four feet underground. Mayor Ferre: What he is saying it does not harm the public right-of-way. Mr. Antoniadis: No,---- Mayor Ferre: You are asking us to give you something, I want to know what you are going to give us Nev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor what would happen, ---George Reid and I serve on the H.U,I).-Board together. One of the things George Reid sensitizes me In, lH that all cable business of light and telephone ought to go in the ground. 5uppe me for the public good, it develops that we need that three or three and huff feet, what is going to happen to us? Mr, Antoniadis: Father Gibson, all the utilities are there already, The area has already been completely improved and there is no eneroachptent of any nature, The alley is 10 ft, wide, and I an encroaching on two areas, 3 1/2 ft, by 4 ft. by 2 ft, deep, Mt I'1te ter: f)oht t I ecal your existing there by eXi.gte,te of ;A vattn to to begin with" VOte, Rev, Gibitont Right, Mr Plummet: t i 11 have to review the whole thing befo Rev, Gilson: I wonder what is going to happen to the public. Mayor t•erte: I think you arc going to have to come back with some dmwnings and more information, and I think you had better think very seriously about what you are going to do for the city of Miami, Mr. Plumter: Where is this Milldine. Unidentified person: Behind the Farm Store on Mary and Oak in the Grove, Mr. Plummer: The lot that was cleared, where the house was tort down. Mayor Ferret Let me say than in principle I. for one would be in favor of granting this, but l want to know what you are going to do for us. Government works that way around here. You want something out of the normal, we want to know what you are going to do for us. Mr. Antoniadis: Well, if 1 can think of something I will be happy, Mayor Ferre: When you think of something come back. 28. DINNER KEY EXPOSITION HALL EVALUATION AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE ENGINEERING STUDY ETC, Mayor Ferre: We will take up #13, Dinner Key Exposition Hall, re-evaluation I think is better, -------- Mr. Andrews:Mr. Mayor and members of the eonmission, in January of this year you adopted a resolution authorizing the city manager to receive architectural proposals after an invitation to make .n evaluation of the Dinner Key auditorium as to is structure, --exhibition hall 1 should really be saying, as to its structural adequacy and to determine what the cost might be in renovating. We received such proposals in March, in April I came to the City Commission with a recommendation that we authorize the City Manager to enter into an agreement with one of the architectural_ firms to do this work. The Commission at that time had some doubts that we should proceed with this work and you Mr. Mayor asked that this be placed on this agenda and that various parties he called here so this could be reviewed and a determination made as to whether we should go ahead with a propo.Hal for its renovation which is different than the recommendations found in the Dinn.tr. Key Master Plan. The Dinner Key Master I'lnn Indicated that the structure should come down and in its place a smaller facility be constructed of some 20,000 sq. ft. The Dinner Key Exhibition Hall 82,200 sq. ft. And you will recall that at the time you authorized me to proceed with this, we had had a discussion in which we were evaluating the fact that even if we build a convention facility in Downtown Miami and we do not improve the Dinner Key Exposition Hall and in facttear it down, we will not have any space within the City to hold major exhibits of the size that can be accomodated at the Exposition Hall, Mayor Ferre; Mr. Andrews are you recommending for or against the restudy of this. Mr. Andrews; T am recommending that we have a re-evaluation made, Mrs, Gordon: Po you think the building got better in two years.' Mayor Ferre; If I might take the prerogative of the Chair and just expound on this and I'would like to ask you to open your minds a little and listen for a moment to I hope will be some logic on a problem that l see, I want you to bgvr with me for moment. I spent all day Sunday going through Iiouston and Paul. wag there oh Mohdey, 1 have taken upon myself when I travel to spend .a day of whate'vet time 1 tan looking at what - other cities ate doing. S knee/ that Hrivatcin was a tattier ptogress3ve city and ; lot of things were happetiitig bu't didn't tecogtyl tie hew truth wee point; on and hew emphatic these people ate about what they ate doing. To my surprise I didn't find one exposition hall 1 teund st whole .reties of them, the Astro Hall, the Colosseum the Jones ttthibitiott tall which has 250,000 sy, ft attd they ate building more, so 1 said, Wait a Mordent ee-=-and they have a place which is as big, Astro Hall, in sq, ft. as the t'iiatnt Bench Ccsnvetttion Center,--1 said why do you need atiotlier Otte, if you ,already have two, why do you need three, --the fact is they build these thiftgs and as they expand them it give them a tremendous influence and impact on tourism, attd these people are now short of hotel rooms, is the only thing that Is holding therm back, which they are going to remedy, and as you know the Major hotel chain, are building just hotel after hotel. `,'hat happens to he one particular case of Houston. We have a monstrosity over here which is called the Dinner Key Auditorium which used to be a hangar for air planes 40 years ago, and as it is, it is a dilapidated, run-down, old ugly building which has no attractiveness and no future. That is under- standable. This commission, and 1think 1 was on the commission one time when we voted and was subsequently reaffirmed to tear down that building, and there was n Uinner Key study made. I think motof you who have seen me here for a year and a half know l am rather pragmatic in my approach to things and sometimes and I hope it is not true, that some of you may feel I am overly pragmatic in that 1 don't have enough idealism for the future of what is going to happen. You know, I happen to be so sick and tired of what 1 call the Interama syndrome, which is, we dreamed the impossible dream, which never comes. We dream the perfect dream. You see, Dr. Muskat, --I remember when I first met' him, 15 years ago, Dr. Muskat wanted to have a 300 million dollar 1.iterama. 1 said Dr. Muskat, please, why don't we start with a 10 or 15 million dollar lnteratna, then we will build a 30, then we will have a 300 million, No, we can't do that, the Ford Motor Company and General Electric have committed 50 million dollars and this and that, and we didn't learn our 1. son. We did the same thing all over again, the 160 million dollar lnterama. We never get. these things done, --we talk and talk. Look at what has happened to the Downtown core area, really, with all due respect to me and all of us, and the Downtown Development, nothing really comparison to Kansas City, Houston, Dallas, and Oakland California, and all the cities that are really moving. And the reason ts, that we always strive for perfection, we always want the perfect thing, and we never do anything. We sit aroung waiting to do the Doxiadia Plan. The Doxiadis plan was beautiful, but I asked Dr. Doxiadis, l said how much will it cost, ---well, ,just the Boulevard portion alone will cost 350 million dollars. l said Dr. Doxiadis, where are we going to get that kind of money to do this ----'Well, that is your problem' --well _ then, what is the use of spending three hundred thousand dollars which this city spent to study what to do with the Boulevard and the parks if the end result is going to be one more fixed study that lies on the shelf, and my friends, not one thing in the Doxiadis report has been implemented, not one major thing. It is just sitting there because we are dreaming the impossible dream Now we have this facility down here, and the question is this, do we go ahead and tear it down, and if we tear it down what will we put up in its place? Remember that wonderful book that was written about South Africa, something of value. I'll never forget that key line, ---I guess it is a biblical line, that you never destroy something, you never take something away unless you replace it with something of value. So the question then is, what will we put in place of that. What value will we give this community when we tear that down? It is 85,000 sq. feet, but if you include the second floor space which is the office space and other exhibition, you are talking in excess of 100,000 sq. ft. A 100,000 sq. ft. in today's market to replace, of exhibition space will cost from 10 to 15 million dollars, and that is a -stripped down building. Do we have that? Yes, we have 10 million dollars, but it is ear -marked for a convention hall. The one thing that L didn't know that I understand now is, that a convention hall, and exhibition hall are not one in the same thing. You are talking about apples and oranges. We are moving along hopefully, trying to build a convention hall, That will not be an exhibition hall, then the answer is, send them to Miami Beach, hecauee there is plenty space there. Well there isn't plenty of space and we, this community, could use 3 ur 4 100,000 sq. ft. exhibition halls. Do we have the money to build one. The answer le no. ,Is it necessary to the hotel business? Arfk I,ew Price, Ask any of the hotel owners around here whether or not we need rt .100,000 sq, ft. exhibition hall, and the answer is yes, we need it today. We don't have one, ,'here are a couple of considerations about that hall. Is it structurally sound? As I understand it is structurally sound. Two, ---it is a monstrosity ■ 51 MAY221975 from the looks, can it be made to look pretty? 1 don't think it eat eVer be made to ibok beautiful, but certainly t think it can be improved, it tan be properly sided, it could be .properly panted, it could be landtcaped, it ttiu d be sir-tonditioned, and 1 think it could be helped seousti ally4 Row much would that coat. We would have to build bathrooms, the question is, how ttluth would that cost. l understand from more than one architect and engineer that t have talked to , that it could be accomplished for maybe 3 million dollars. The question is, would 2,1, or 4 million dollars of our resources be worth spending its that particular location. Now we get to the question of the Orange Soul. it is the sage thing. Joe Robbie wants a new stadium. Of course he wants a new want n new stadium but we t'abi t afford a new football stadium. The Otafige Bowl is ugly. i know it is ugly, it is silver, and all this stuff, but can it be unproved? it in the same phychology. We can with 16 million dollars make' a first clans .stadium out of there, Of course it won't be the astradome or Wont he the Huperbowl, the Superdome In New Orleans, that cost 250 million dollars, but we are going to have one of the best stadiums in the United States right here In Miami Florida called the Orange Bowl and the tab on it is going to be 16 million dollars, and no Mr. Joe Robbie there is no way we can build a new football stadium in Miami. I think we'd better put on this same type of pragmatic practical approach on this facility over here and do the same thing with it that we're doing with Dinner Key Auditorium and that is improve it, beautify it, landscape it, do everything we can to make it a first class facil- ity, do it reasonably which we can do for $3,000,000 and end up with a first class facility.' Now, the bad part - the disadvantage. The people of Coconut Grove I know I understand. The people of Coconut Grove would rather not have anything in the Dinner Key area. They'd rather have a passive park with boat- ing facilities I know that and philosophicallyI concur with that. But, I want to say that I voted whereI feel I can agree for limiting Bayshore Drive to its two lane road; I voted for that, we did it again this morning; I have voted for the rezoning and the down zoning or the up zoning, whatever it's called -the roll back for the Grove. I've agreed with that. I've agreed with a lot of the things that the people of the Grove want because I think that this in their community, they're entitled to have these amenities. This, however, in something which I think impacts the whole community in a very serious way and I think that I have to in my consideration and in my vote I have to think about what is best for the people of Miami including the people of Coconut Grove. Now if I limit myself strictly to the people of Coconut Grove then I would vote to tear down that building but if I think of what is best for the citizens of Miami as a whole and for this community then I would vote to rennovate and to improve that building if possible, if economically feasible; beautify, improve it, air condition it, help it accoustically and end up with a facility. Now the alternatives: The alternatives are these my friends either we continue suffering with that monstrosity for years which is usually what ends up happen- ing in this community because we've put it off and off and Larry Pearl needs it for the boat show and somebody else needs it for something else and we don't tear it down but we just leave it for one more season and one season runs into the next or we could just tear it down. Now if we tear it down what that does is it leaves this community without any facility because we don't have anything to substitute of value that will replace even that horrible delapidated building. So what I'm saying is I think the logic of the times of austerity, of lack of money, of economics, of the best purposes for the community I think warrant the reevaluation and the rethinking. Now what does it mean to you and me as Miamians? Here is what it means.- We have a sick, a sick tourist economy despite the fact that we didn't have too bad a season this last time. But there is one hotel after the other that's going to be closing here. Already the hotels on the beach from the Fountainbleu on down are looking for every which way to become condominiums and now Ben Novack has some new gimmick where he sells two weeks out of the year and now they're all trying to bail out. All of these hotels, even the very top ones are trying to get out because it's economically they're worried, The tourists, the hotel industry is worried. Now in the bay area, I can tell you because I know for a fact, the Everglades Hotel is in serious trouble. Do you know that the teamsters have been trying to bail out of there for the last three years The other hotels, the Ponce de Leon was just bought by the Florida Nat- ional Bank is seriously considering closing down. Most of the hotels in the downtown area are in serious trouble or considering closing or will close in the next few years, Now, I just came back from Houston along with Paul. There l saw nn H00 room brand new Hyatt House, the largest Holiday Inn in the country, hotel after hotel after hotel either under construction or being planned, Where is Hyatt in Miami? They bought the Play Boy Plaza. Where is the new Hyatt House? We need a 1,Q00 room Hyatt House in this community, Where is it? They don't 2 MAY 221975 w.'itit to touch Miafnithey don't wantt to come in here. And I've personally ! written 5heraton.w Tilton, Hyatt, Marriott, all of these hotel chains and they Vt;te all the sale typo of reaction. Now ladies and gentlemen, we have clot to start thinking in a positive sense. Look, I'm for beauty and I'in for et;6lt t y cthd I'm for protection but I'm going to tell you this community right low is in carious economic trouble. People tire out of work, there is a 12* t. nethploy. ,sent in bade County - baloney! That's 12% when you average me into it and average all of us who have job. flow much 'a i`: in the black community? HoW Much is it in the Latin community? Novi much i it in Hialeah? ghat is it in I#tMbatead? It's ho 12%, we're talking about 15, 20, 25% unetnployftilent in this community and I think that is all good and fine and dandy but this community heeds to think jobs. It needs to think of jobs so that we don't end up beiti being another New York, so that we dniZ t e n.y . upbeing a communitywhere354c% b the people are on welfare. We wan' a community where people can...well there, are jobs available Don't kid your:?o.I f, this thing about:, that I've heard, "We11 when the troubles come the Cubans will move out c)f Miami and they will go got jobs." They're not going t:o move out of here, they're going to go oh welfare. They're going to go on welfare. They're going to eat on food stamps unless we're going to he the ex+:•cept--ion. Because all over the country this is exactly what happens. People go on welfare, they hold on for a better day, you get more unemployment'., mere W'C :.'fate, more people living off of the govern meat and all I'm saying is it'e important for us to keep a balanced attitude on what we're looking forward tc, and that means a balanced economy and that means tourism and that means an exhibition Y;:,11_. T think it is within our power to do something which makes an awful. let 'c.f economic sense, it makes a lot of sense as far as I'm concerned for the welfare and benefit, of the community. And the alternate is not in my opinie,n a viable alternate. 1 think the alter- nate is one that is going to ezeate mete , toI'l€ms than it is going to solve. Least we misunderstand, 1 recc)e3:iiee lee. m!, <,ay pub?..ically that a lot of the people here are proponente of this t_h i.rr1 because they have a personal inter- est in this so .let's be very fair abut it because I'm sure there might be just as many people who could be gotten here that would be. just as strongly against it. They'll be here later hut. '_tet'r: held ),a' ? our emotions on this thing if we can. Mr. Plummer: Mr.. Manager, what i:; %!j t;Ctximator. cost of this engineering survey! Mr. Andrews: Five to eight t?,r t ,iii d. I lit ). t'') [e'C'(C1 $8000. Mr. Plummer: flow loin .rou l cl it La : Mr. Andrews: I hope that the mt,i:.sict i i t:hi i:. t t::)ce will give me a little more lattitude than you normally permit In ,hit. T eonstant.ly bring agreements back to you to show you the agrc eme t r r i oc to you authorizing me to enter into agreements. I wish you'd give me the 1,-ltti.tude to proceed with this because if you are in favor of moving ahead, and T didn't want to make this announcement or give the commission any false hopr•c= or pre ;`udi e your thinking in any way but let me announce this and gamble that it won't. The federal government is in the process of approving a five billion dollar pub/i- works project for the nation and the main criteria will be areas with high employment. We have already investigated and Miami and particularly the >ei-e Florida area ..i >:, going to be one of the prime areas in which these public worke ` nt.'ls win flow into. Wo think that if the City Commission acts favorably en !ei.e ye asses high hopes that through a fast track method of rennov.-at:inc the lit:.ner Fey l.lxhibition flail that we can get sub- etantial sums of money, I wait: to t'cp;'.:It. ::hat we're in hopes that we can get substantial sums of money fr..m ' ho federal government where we can demonstrate that GO% of the work wi 11 be in t.i rr re a of l .l.bor and it will be in an alteration work. From my experience in t:_h'.: field of engineering, if everything fits in this case and then we relate :it ,further t . our total economy by developing a hall that could bring people here, open up the i,otele, .add to the economy through tourism everything just fits and Tin con` larat: that we would come high on the list for approval for such a project. Mayor Ferre: And by the way Paul, 1 went. t.o add because I told you earlier today I spent some time .in the office of Economic Development and I guarantee you from what I Beard yesterday that there are funds in Washington supplement- ing what you just sa.r1 available for exactly this type of project. I thin% we can get the federal government t ) pi':k up a big chunk of the tab on that, Mr, Andrews: The immediate contract of ()fitting the work, and we're not con - corned about all the frills and heaet.i ful drawings that would be presented as tnueh an We are an honest: evalua i-)n af.' to structural adequacy and if it is structurally adequate determine hew much i t: wotit.d cost to reasonable rennovate 5'3 MAY 22175 it to make it a usable fat ility:. NOW f'd like to aid to what the Mayor has said to encourage you tel proceed with this it9 that if five years front hbW, tight years try noW the City it ih >a position to build really a modern bkhibita Loh 'hall in downtt wt MiAMi wh1oli we should have of in the immediate ;&tea Of downtown Miami the investment that we make in this building east be long letting it that it could be used its the tt►ar,ine industry. tt would Make at ideal facility an ati txample for indoor storage of boats similar to what Drove Marina has ace m p1 fished hers itt the open. Mayer Perret Lot see share a story with you real quick in my own businehts When we designeg multi -Million illion dollar expansion in the cement plant some of the tt/thecrs came atd said you eats+t do that because what you're going te) do is prob.. ably be obsolete or it is already beginning to be obsolete and there are More mod- ern techniques. I said, "Yes, t know but what I want to do is going to cost five trillion dollars and what you want to do is going to cost eight million dollars. Mow my $5,000,000 I can pay for in five br six years; your $8,000,000 it is going to take me 10 years to pay for it. What makes you think that yours isn't going to be obsolete within 8 years?" And he says, "Weil it is." Then why should build an obsolete facility? I may as well build my obsolete facility cheaper, pay for it quicker and then when there is a hew method of manufacturing I come back, tear it out and do it. But I'd rather tear out a $5,000,000 plant than tear out an $8,000,000 plant. The man looked at me and he said, "Well, I guess you're the one buying." and I said, "That's right." and that's the decision we're going to make because it is a simple business decision and I'm saying that what we have to apply to this is some good business logic. The logic of it is that it makes economic sehse for this community to do something like this if it is possible. It may not be possible. Mt. Plummer: .Mr. Manager, if the federal money is not forthcoming to do it and we use the Mayor's figure which I'm not going to agree or disagree with at this time of $3,000,000, if you don't get the federal money where would you get the money to do it? Mr. Andrews You'd have to probably committ a major portion of the Florida Power and Light Company unallocated Capital Improvement funds. Mr. Plummer: Now designated for the Orange Bowl? Mr. Andrews: No, it is not, not as yet. You haven't made that determination and the commission would have to be involved, of course, in the process of determining after you get this. But let's assume that the Mayor by design is being pessimistic here for a moment that it is $3,000,000 but suppose it turns out to be 1.8 million dollars or something less than that and let's assume that there might be other funds available; I can't think of what other funds but... I wanted to say Community Development but I'm afraid to carry it that far because... but a portion of the Community Development funds might be used. Mr. Plummer: If you're talking about 5 to $8,000 for a study to evaluate'I see nothing wrong with that but let me tell you where I -think that you're kidding yourselves. An exposition hall for the hotels downtown isn't worth 10 cents - the Exposition Hall at Dinner Key for the downtown hotels isn't worth 10 cents. They're just not going to travel that far. Mayor Ferre: J.L., they do in other parts, How about Mc Cormick Place in Chicago? Mr. Plummer: You still have major hotels within walking distance, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Not in Chicago, not in New York, not in San Diego. Mr. Plummer: Here is the thing I was going to bring out. We have just now recently in the last six months, the last four months making a mandatory height structure all along Bayshore Drive of four stories. Now you know and I know that there is no hotel around that is going to build a so called Hyatt House or any other kind of hotel with this kind of zoning that is being applied and this was brought about by the people of the Grove. Now how are you going to double back and go tell these people we're going to put in an exhibition hall to encourage more hotels, to encourage more tourism and what are you going to do? Mayor Ferre; 0,14,, Lew Price is here and he can speak on this, I have been to at least a dozen convention cities and the majority of them or in many of them the exhibition hall is not necessarily within walking distance of the area, As 4 matter of fact, the majority of them are not, 54 MAY 2 21975 MM Mtg. ttrdofi. mat about the cotittbi of traffic? Mt had such an uproar about ttatti'e and tayahore brine traffic and the tikentual need possibly of having tb widen ba shore because or traffic and what y6t1'rt suggesting although it has suTh merit from one standpoint has very detrimental effects from the Esther and ah +thtt thing that I am concerned about, I think Father wanted to speak to this ohe I'm loituy to lst him ask it. Rev. tibsont Mr. Manager, we've -got pretty good staff around here. You know I'm tibt lake the Mayor. T'he Mayor, he always Beth me on this. tut you knit I think I'm willing to tray our staff and see if we earl reduce say half of the outlay. l think one of the advantages of having a competent staff is every once itt a while they shouldn't have to be dealing with routine. They could become imaginative, can't they augment meaning work with somebody else so as to reduce the cost from $11,60O to $4,000? I mean there are some things they could do themselves. Mr. Andrews: It wil associated with us. factor. It means we we're involved in•.. 1 cost us the $4,000 if we divided this it half aid someone To use our personnel is going to cost also. It is a Cost can't do something else and we have so many projects that Neva Gibson: I have no objection, the only danger I see is if my bishop always decided that he had to have a retreat and he would go out and get all of these other guys to conduct it and never let somebody around him experiment I'll never be able to conduct it. Do you understand what I mean? I -think that we have an obligation as a commission to give that competent staff of ours an opportunity to be creative and imaginative. Give them $4,b00 to get one or two other people to help them to interject or put some blood transfusion if need be. Right! Mayor Ferre: rather, I agree with that, I'd go along with that. But let me give you just a little bit of warning. You know the dentist that I use is a tremendous dentist and the other day I said, "Ed, where did you learn how to do all of these things?" He said, "You know I went to the army and I practiced on all of these soldiers for years and years when I got out of dentistry school." So I don't want to be in the situation where we're going to, have people who are not as experienced; that's why we have people like Lester Pancoast and Yiannis and the many other architects. I see a whole bunch of them here today. Mr. Plummer: Yiannis, you want to know what you can do for the do you want that alley? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, what I had in mind was if we had.... Mayor Ferre: ...I see a lot of architects here. But what I'm saying is that we don't have anybody, with all due respects to Mr. Acton, Thurston Hatcher and we have a lot of architects here. With all due respects to our in house we really don't have I don't think that kind of expertise to do that kind of a job. city? How bad Mrs. Gordon: I think what we're looking for is our engineering expertise and I thought this city was made up of half engineers the way I've heard it told. Mayor Ferre: I tell you, I hope it is going to be a lot more than just engineer- ing. Mr. Andrews: Yes. I was going to say, it is dived into two parts. One is to examind the soundness of the basic structure from an engineering point of view and then secondly if we were to fix it up what would we fix up and what would be the quality of that. I think that is where the value would come in employ- ing outside firms to assist. Rev. Gibson: But our own staff could tell us whether that building is alright. They could do that much and then once you determined that you could say to Mr. ?ancoast and Mr. Treister and the rest of those men, "Look, this building is all right now tell us what we could do to make it attractive."' Mayor Ferrel I think I get the sense of the commission. In other words what you're saying is let's go into it and let's try to use as much of, our own staff as we can, Mrs. Gordon; I'd like to say how I feel about it. I'm not going to say let's not look and see how structurally sound it is and how long it can last and this and that but I'm going to state right now I'm not in favor of expansion of it. into a major facility for long lasting purposes. I would much rather think along the lines of the convention center we're planning for downtown being thin td upoh to be able to theom ass havt afteady have iiguted it is going toot it we dab and if funds are going toc ethtyf and ;keep it where the hotels '_hat sh+ t id be developed is 'do htowh. • both what you wait it to be and *hat we to be. Let's °do it together under 6e to care our way let't put them all are likely to be developed ar d the area Mayer Vette: Bose, t can't argue with that logic. 1 think it is good logid. Tt ohly problem is that youite talking abut a $2t,00b,Obo project whiel it what wr rtai .y should be heading for in Miami aut you know juat dot laek oi ticttting a $10000,,bb0 under may we haveh't even begun. What I'm saying it t dofi't See where we're going to have that they for quite a while whereas this project is a million or two or three trillion dollar projeet and that I think we trap do and it will tide us over until the other ohe is ready. Mra. Gordon: Mt. Mayor,, f would even be in favor Of putting it to the voters ih 'November and let theta hake the decision because it is not a simple decision you're aaking us to make. It is a major decision► ih the use of the city and how we're going to use the city and 1 think Mr. Plummer hits the nail smack on the head when he said what he did about what are we going to do, we can't en- courage hotels here we're going to bring them in by cars or what, or how. Mayor Ferret That's something, that we can cross later on but right now... Mrs, Gordon: Oh no, 1 think we ought to cross it now before we spend any money. Mayor Ferre: Well, if you want to cross bridges now I'm perfectly willing to put it this way - as far as Maurice Ferre is concerned I get elected to make decision. If I don't make the right decisions every two years the people of Miami have a right to un-elect me and the democratic process works that way because if we were to put every major decision to the electorate then what do we need them for? All we need is a clerk... Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, you misunderstood me. I meant to put to the voters the fiii of the extra cost of enlarging the facility that we hope to build downtown. That's what I'm talking about, I didn't mean whether we should do this or that. Mayor Ferret Oh, I beg your pardon. I apologize. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me make one further comment.'' You know, just about the time I was appointed on this commission to fill that unexpired term, I'll always remember that, there was an awful debate about what you're going to do with Bayshore Drive. I want Rose to hear this and the Mayor too. There was an awful debate about what you're going to do about Bayshore Drive and I remember a then public office holder coming down here and came near upsetting the apple cart. I heard some people the other night when Rose was conducting that hearing here for that area over there; I heard some people here rejoicing over the looks of the, improvement on Bayshore Drive and they were vehemently opposed when they started. If I were to call the'man's name you remember that guy came near upsetting the apple cart. We had 50% of the work out there done and he wanted us to stop the contract. For some reason Mr. Reese said, "But there's so much done." or even Mr. Andrews, I don't remember who was here at the time... But the fact remains that we proceeded. And you know what? I was in that number who wasn't too anxious.` I want to tell you this, Rose, I sure want to say it looks a hell of a lot better. Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you've got to remember, Father, that man tried to get re-elected and didn't get re-elected. Rev. Gibson: Beautiful! That's the point; then, Mr. Mayor, your position is crystal clear. Mayor Ferre; Ahmen. Ok, I think we've discussed the issue. Now I'd like to for the record submit about 30 telegrams and letters from business people, private citizens and otherwise interested people from the Rare Fruit Council, the dif- ferent marinas, individuals pretty much in favor. As a matter of fact, I have not in these letters received any opposition to this, Of course, I want to very quickly state that I know that there will be... I want to state that for the most part these are people who have hotels or commercial interests and I want to recognize that and I want to say also that if we were to make decisions around here based stricly on popularity a jot of times things wouldn't happen, That is of course, what political leadership is supposed to be all about, 6 MAY 221975 c Mrs. -Oordeht t thit►k that it the sate people mho wrote to you, w'hote let tees you're holding its, your hand had a choice of that or atMething elite they wisiiid bo juetas favorable to the something elee but at this point in time they think they have he other choice. Now what we're saying is we should O ie them a choice and the choice taught to be ail thlarge-meht of the of fVci to itch facility to include an ethibitioit hall, Mayor t•otte Rose* I think in theory you' _•e right but t just Wtht to say that my gut sense in all of this tells me that. this is an intkpenative way of accomplitihing aomethitg very quickly which will have a major impact and I'm hot talking tit about the dreater Miattti bog Club or the pare Pratt Gouneil or what have you. t'm talking about the general community and therefore, I think it would be well worth spending the 4, S, 6, 7 or whatever it is thousand dollars to look intothis and then we will tall a full public hearing and I'm sure that we're going to need the Rivernide taptist Church to help us in more than one way because it will be a jam packed meeting,' But I'm willing to stick my heck out and 1 think it is time for us to take this and based oh the Manager's reccommendation that we do so 1 also adhere to this and strongly recommend that we move on this. Mrs Cordon: Mr. Andrews, how much of this work can you do in house and how touch of it can you do before we have to spend any money? Mr. Andrews: I think that the in house aspect of it we can examine the basic structure, that is the raw structure to make sure that it is sound. I mean those are the columns and the footing system under those columns... Mrs. Gordon: You haven't done that yet? Mr. Andrews: Not to the extent that I think it should'be done before we go ahead with major improvements. Mrs. Gordon: I think we should defer action on anything further than your in house inspection and that anything further than that should wait until you have a report on the structural soundness of the building and I would so move. Mayor Ferre: Alright, I'm opposed to that Rose, because I think it is import- ant that we move ahead on something like this but I'll recognize your motion and sec if there is a second on the flor. Is there a second to Commissioner Gordon's motion? Mrs. Gordn: If you understand the motion is also to, give the staff a chance to examine the structure from the structurally sound point of view. NOw if it isn't structurally sound there is nothing further to talk about and there is nothing further to talk about spending money for. Mr. Andrews: Well, I would agree with you and I think if you would carry, that one step further... Mrs. Gordon: Could you do that by our next meeting? Mr. Andrews: Would you then leave the judgement with me that if we find that after we've made that kind of analysis to permit me to go ahead with, the architect and proceed with the contract... Mrs. Gordon: No, I wouldn't because I would then say that I would be making that decision prematurely. I would first want to hear your report and I would .ask you if you could have that report by the next meeting. Mayor Terre: We have a motion on the ffor then. Mrs. Gordon: Can you have that report? Mr. Andrews: We'll do the very best we can. Mayor Ferret Let's see if We have a second on that moiion, Is there a second on the motion as made, by Commissioner Gordon? Mr. Plummer: Paul, this study done by Russell, Melton & Associates, reading from this study of the Dinner Key Autidorium, and I won't read the whole thing but let's just basically underline points,, The structural engineering reported it in poor condition, virtually no sanitary facilities, no adequate stage,` There has been considerable settlement in the floor slab. Southeast corner and west end- ' MAY 2 21975 Whet•e seat to cttack1r4 'of ft sof,ary petitions bias tesulted: A hew eteel t o f deck Was placed per the old the ih 4.81 but this it; showihq evi;defie a of tots= torero t'Nothing war tide about the siding at detk dyer the 1dw roof areas which ate badly Corroded. Was thit dehe by an •engineer Mrs Ahdrewst Yes, 1 believe it was but this report doesh't say that the fo,t fig y +'stetfti the f `uiundatiar system of the building is failing,, ft doesn't may that the colum t artd supporting basic 'structure reating bh that fbbtih uynttm it failing It doesn't say that the 'trus es holding upthe roof system and all bt the support members are failing. 1 will readily admit that it heeds hew foot, it heeds tew siding. The wall cracks we're talkiht about are what t would identity at euttai i walls or walls that tang ih between those eoluttins. The wihdOWa are bad, it heeds air dohditionihg but the basic structure 1 believe which sets on a superior foundation system independeht of the floor slab, and the floor slab is settling but not the structural toundatioh system ab those are all of the things you'd have to repair but what we'd ask Public Works to do thr_h is to eX fl ine the basic structure, Mtn, Gordoh: 1 would also ask you to ask them what is the value of replacement of the structurally sound portions of the building then we know what we're talk ing about because then the rest of it is going to have to be replaced and then we can entimato what it is going to cost and not guess ut-mate a million and a halt to four. millioh. We don't really know what we're talking about. Mayor Terre: We will after we have the study made. Mrs. Gordon: We don't have any real figures, we have figures that we are picking up out of the air. Mayor Ferre:- That's why we need the study. Mrs. Gordon: Right. We need the first preliminary examination which will then tell us how much there is really there that's worth anything as far as replace- ment. Ok? Mr. Plummer: What I'm getting at, this study here which we paid an awful lot of money for is in fact done by engineers. Why are we going to be hiring more engineers that would contradict with this? Mr. Andrews: Well, I am going to have our Public Works Department proceed with this, re-examine the details that went into making up this report and obtain that information... Mr. Plummer: Ok, I'll tell you what, I'll go along with the motion but I want Mr. Russell Melton here when we discuss this thing and I want him to make his statements because actually if anything comes up contradictory to. this I want to know why he made the mistake. Mayor Ferre: Now let's see if we're going to have... I tell you if this motion does not pass then I'm going to either offer a motion that we proceed in authorizing the Manager to spend no more than $8,000... Mr. Reboso: I'm ready to make a motion. Mayor Ferre: We already have a motion on the floor. Mrs. Gordon: There is a motion on the floor to defer this decision until we have had an estimate from our own engineering department as to the portions of the building that are structurally sound and the value of those sound port- ions, Therefore, we can go from there. Mayor Ferre: Now the other motion would say that after that evaluation if it were positive that we wouldn't waste any time then in proceeding. Mrs, Gordon: Well, we bring it back to us at the, next meeting, we can have this on the agenda, Mr, Plummer: $8,000 would do it totally with outside people? Mr. Andrews: Yes, Mr, Plummer; If you do it in house all you're going to do is kill it realm let's admit the truth, I i MAY 221975 Mnyrit P+'+ffe: All ti h :s there iN h'n4.iofi by Mtss Mole Gbtdbft 1 MTh (111' to ,t tk tbt tht i t`ir;t time it there is a second? Is there a second to the i btit ti a lcn i' i theft a second to Mts, Gordohi s Tbtiot Is there a second' ittatifirt atone tht motion diet; for lack ot a sedbad, Mt, tebosot Mr. Mayors I thihk we should go ahead with the blither key Auditor iutt+ tvaluation, I think at that life I wa i ld Bike to make a Motion author .2in9 the City Manager to 'proceed with the hegotlatibhs as he says here in this feTt5t andtiftt that the fee tot this service would be limited to a MAXIMUM of $8000 aed that we have a factual report to be completed within 66 days Mrs. dordont Under discussion of the rnotioh 1 think that we are in haste making Waste and that we are wasting the taxpayers' money and I vote against the mtttbti When My time to Mote. Mayor t'r'rrc Any further discussion on the motion? I would respectfully ask it there are going to be public statements on this thing and I'll recbgni2e you, that you try to be to the point and if the other speaker has made his point that you not be repetitious. Mr. Michael 3. Osmund: Mr, Vice -Mayor, Commissioners Gordon, iteboso, Gibson, my name is Michael J. Osmund, I'm a lawyer and a member of the law firth of Bierman, Sonnet, Bailey and Osmund and I'm here oh behalf of Exposition corp. of American which is presently the largest single luser of the Dinner Key Exhibition Hall. I'd like to take a few moments to speak in favor of the appropriation of the approximate of $8000 for an engineering study to deter- mine the feasibility of refurbishing Dinner Key Exhibition Hall. Mayor Ferre: Excuse tne, how long do you expect to speak? Mr. Osmund: Not more than 10 minutes, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferret I won't recognize you that long. Who else wants to speak on thin? now many want to speak as proponents, for it? How many want to speak an opponents, in opposition? Mrn. Gordon: Wouldn't it be appropriate to remove the motion before the speakers? Mayor Ferrel No, because I think we can always do that later on. I think I can under the prerogative of the Chair recognize people to speak on it if you want. You're going to have to then limit your statement to no more than three minutes. Mr. Plummer: I would like each of the speakers that are speaking for it if you would conclude your remarks by asking what you'll donate towards this $8000. Mr. Osmund: I just might say very very briefly that as a practical matter Ixpositon Corp. of, America probably also represents the Greater Miami Marine Industry, Greater Miami Recreational Vehicle Industry, the Builders Home Products and service industry as well as the automobile and tourist industry. We are not unmindful of the Dinner Key Master Plan prepared by Russell Melton calling for the demolition of the auditoriu but we suggest that it was based upon a conclus- ion that the auditorium was not worth saving which I' intend at this time to show the commissioners that that is an erroneous conclusion because the report did not take into account the auditorium's present use, the present benefit it pro- vides to the city and local industry and the potential uses and benefits to local industry in the city, Expostion Corp -.'of American was never even given an oppor- tunity by Russell Melton to provide this necessary information which is certainly Pertinent to the conclusion that has to be made. We presently run the Miami Dinner Key Boat Show which we've run for 9 years every October and it has become the largest fall public boat show in the country. We run the Miami Home Show which has been run for the last•31 years and the recent home show held in May was the most successful in the history of the show. We run the November Home Show, the Sport and Camping Show and the Auto Show. Five weeks out of 52 weeks of the year, Mr. Commissioners and�Mrs. Gordon, we attract over a half a million people into Dinner Key Auditorium - five weeks out of the year. We attract over 800 business here that participate in these shows only five weeks out of the ye4r. Most of these businesses are based in the greater Miami area. Most of these businesses depend very very heavily upon a show place to exhibit their j,rr,rJulr;ts and to promote their wares, Millions of dollars in sales are conducted every s;jngle year at the Dinner Key Auditorium in just this five week period and we are not the only users of Dinner Key Auditorium, The demolition of the Dinner 59 MA'( 221975 kny facility at this tithe without an adeclluate facility to take its Platt Will to :tiyt ih ,a tremendous etono1iiic disaster to bade County. to addttith, Mt4 Mayor, tot have speht every year thousands and thousands of dollars in publi ity thtough= but the Western Hemisphere int itifig people tb participate it these sh s, to come tb Miami and provide added tourism for this itdi stry, our shows attra'et people from all over North and Gouth America, tourists that ate so direly needed to this economy. These people condo and they stay ih chug hotels, they eat in out restaurants, they tent bur oars, they driivu in out taxis and they literally spetd hundreds of thousands of dollars ih out city: our attendal'oe figures we submit and we'd be ready to supply this comn►ittitti suggests that it its present state bihher fey attracts as "Many if not tore people every year than the e)range owl facility. I would just like to have the opportunity to wired up -and state that the real problem that nobody has dealt with here today is miliat happens to these gob businesses, what happens to all of these peoples all of these dollars ih sales and the resulting unemployment when the facility is demolished and until the time it takes to put up a 20 to 30 million dollar facility. Mrs. Gordon: May 1 answer you?' That's exactly what I'm saying. 1 say if you had a choice would you rather have that renovated old hanger or would you like to have a nice hew building? Mr. Osmund: Commissioner Gordon, I have no choice to answer you because I have i.o and the public here needs a facility now. WE can't stand,.._ Mrs. Gordon: We're not building that facility now, we're not ordering demolit- ion tomorrow. You're misunderstanding the entire intent of this Commission. Those that are not voting for it are not voting to demolish it. Mr. Osmund: I suggest to you, Commissioner Gordon that in addition as the Mayor has pointed out to the proposed facility that only the good Lord knows when it will come to downtown Miami... Mrs. Gordon: and not just Mayor Ferre:- going to ask Mr. Plummer: facetious. The good Lord and the people can help us bring about a new facility a renovated old hanger. I'll respectfully respect that you make your statement and the commission not to get into discussion at this time. I didn't hear him address my question, sir, and I wasn't being Mr. osmund: No, I wasn't given an opportunity, Mr. Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: I'm giving you the opportunity. Mayor Ferre: But the chairman is the one who runs this meeting according to the Charter unless I'm overruled by a majority and I will come back and I will ask each and everyone of the proponents to answer in just a few seconds what Commissioner Plummer has asked which is what are you going to do; in other words he's asking for donations is what he's talking about. Are your clients willing to kick in some money to do this thing? Mr. Osmund: I would suggest, and I was prepared to state if I had the time that if this facility was refurbished and air conditioned we are prepared to sign long term rental contracts with this city for up to a half a million dol- lars. Mayor Furre: All right, that's not answering the question and you're not going to get any answers, I know that, J.L., right now. I understand your point. Thank you very much. Mr. Osmund:, Well, if that's not a significant contribution, Mayor Ferro: I think it is sir, and I thank you for it. Now we'll hear from one of the opponents, We're going to have a proponent, opponent. Who is the opponent who wants to speak at this time? Mr. Jorge Arango, Your name and address for the record, please, Mr. Jorge Arango; My name is Jorge Arango and I'm an architect and I have my office in coconut Grove, 3141 Commodore Plaza. My comments probably will not take even 21/2 minutes, Mr. Mayor and, commissioners. My points would be to clar- ify that what I have heard in favor of the remodeling of this building are all based on business, On business the more you grow the better you are. In com- munities that is not so and Coconut Grove which is a charming place has qualities that growth wound de: troy* Writes many years the pftplt of ebesrut have beet: trying to Abe earef'til that any growth, ate+ corgestiori is kept down and ufdt r control because there ate be many places ih Miami that are grow. frig, have a great deal Of congestion and have a great deal of busi:rieas tb lets not ehhftlse two ideas. Growth and seccess can be together in b bitteas to be true hot ih a community. That's all 1 have to say, sir. Mr. Charles Stewart: My name is Charles s.ewart. t am the president of a rorpbratioh that operates the Ginter Key edit'ritli1 for a combination flea market and antique thew Which we operate on Sundays approximately 40 weeks out of a year, i did not know about the meeting until about 1:10 and t had just written a few notes here very quickly. There are a few points that t'd like to bring up in favor of retaining the auditorium as it is MM. to begin with building a new complex costs many many millions of dollars and 1 believe that as it is now for the small amount, whatever was "discussed, a million and a half or possibly three million dollars at least we will have an exhibition hall facility, We who operate this market employ many people also. We attract thousands of people to the area, mahy people who are disabled or charitable organizations who operate in the auditorium on the Sunday that we operate the antique show have an added income; city employees who need additional money to live on in this economy. I believe it is also very beneficial to the area inn hotels, the stnall hotels, the restaurants, downtown Coconut GroVe, it does not detract anything from the city itself. And as the Mayor so ably said, it may look like a monstrosity but I believe that it can still be utilized for a numbr_r of years and give the community which it can use. Also in conjunction with Mr. Osmund who spoke for exposition I know that they are very fine tenants and all of this money that all of us spend in rentals that the city also gets if they tear it down it will mean money that they will not get and of course, again I just haven't had enough time to bring out all of these points and... Is my time still running? Mayor Ferre: Well, 1 think you're just repeating things that have already been said. Mr. Stewart: Well, I think repetition is beautiful. I, think it is nice to repeat some things. Mayor Ferre: That's true but we don't have the time today. Do you want to add anything new? Mrs. Gordon: Can you operate the flea market in it like it is now for another six or eight months? Mr. Stewart: We can operate it for the next five years. Then again, I forgot one little important thing. You know I think there are many affairs that can be conducted there at a lower cost than it would take to operate it in a new building. We might have to charge $10 to get in based on the new rentals. At least with a facility such as this people can operate without having to spend a considerable amount of money to get in for that particular affair. Mr. Lester Pancoast: Mr. Mayor and commissioners, I'm much more comfortable' in the position of saying how things should be done than how they should not be done but sometimes I think that too is necessary. I'm extremely disappointed to think that a really superb Dinner Key is an impossible dream. San Diego does not have a Dinner Key I lived there for a year, I know very well. It has some other superb things but only because they dreamed rather well. If we don't dream well on the few assets that we have in Miami no Hyatt House is ever going to want to invest here at all. I think quality in this town is the thing that those investors are missing and I think quality is the thing that for so many years has been out of our grasp as we grew rapidly and under the exigencies of doing things because we can afford it now. So with great respect please don't misunderstand that aspect of it; I think we have got to aim very strongly towards having an active Dinner Key. I personally have been a proponent of active parks whether it is Bay Front Park or any other park that I can think of and have tried to get genuine generators of people in those parks, I don't think that a facility with a vast empty parking lot surrounding it is a thing that generates enough activity to make a genuinely valid Dinner Key, It is true that this plan which was our best effort ever made towards getting quality for Dinner Key; the plan shows a small facility which would do marvelous things under the circumstances' when we could build it some day but that facility if it gets too big brings the parking with it and the parking is a very difficult and deadly thing to handle as the rest of Coconut Grove as it developes is beginning to discover so well, I have another practical suggestion if really I am the only one in favor of the impossible dream and that is I think that a feasibility study for such a facility 61 MAY 2 21975 rra1 ought to bt made by a film ether than, that whioh will eatry it Out. I fh3Mk "this f tlaratlteefy` tree ObjettiVity ih Making the deeitieht. Thank_ you. Mayor Ferree A t o y valid poit , tinter, All tight, proponent. Mr. trwih Weiner. Pot the record, my name is Irwin Weiner at d t411 het repre sef,ting the t3teatet Miami. Marine Associati it, whir ie the t believe iargeSt txhibi' or in the present facility, the binner *fey Auditorium. t cause here basic lily to discuss all of the benefits to the city ih the asseetatieh but I think this has been covered. I'm ih a rather unique position beeauSe t am also a resident of; Coconut tove3 My offite le right across the street in Mr. t'reister's beautiful building over there. 1 have the opportunity Oh a daily basis of looking at the binner trey Auditorium, The point that I want to make is something has to be dote whatever you do, now. If your ultimate Master plan is agreeable to everyone with a smaller facility there what would hurt to help your community now to continue until you have your big beautiful thing downtown to go ahead and renovate the existing structure, make it look nice, make it look beautiful and if it ends up being a little bigger than what the ultimate binner Key Plan was, so what. We have solved two problems., we've done it practically and we've doneit at the least cost to the city but it should be done soon. Mr. Ken Treister: Mr. Mayor, Commissioner Gordon and other Commissioners, my name is Kenneth Treister, I'm an architect in Coconut Grove. I hate to start off by disagreeing with one of my friends and tenants but 1 feel strongly that after really giving this a lot of thought in the last few weeks that the auditor- ium ultimately should be removed and I think that any attempt now by the commis- sion to have a feasibility study would be self defeating and I really would like to talk to the Mayor almost directly because I think his goals are excellent and I, of course, always respect your opinion and I think I would agree with every one of your concepts as far as the economy and the need for an exhibition center but I really also would like to address the people in the audience who also are in favor of this because I think as a businessman this is self defeating. I think that if you put some band aid on this existing facility you will be eliminat- ing for many years to come the possibility of putting a new facility in downtown Miami. I think secondly you will be perpetuating a facility which will not attract tourism in any real solid business interest. I think a lot of times when you put in a temporary facility it becomes permanent and then you do not have the impetus for a real facility. I think Commissioner Gordon hit it on the head before when she said what we need is a downtown convention center and exhibition hall. When a person to a convention they must go by car to a hotel, they must be able to walk across the street from a hotel to a convention meeting, tell his wife to meet him at the convention hall at 11, tell his secretary that I'll be back in my room in five minutes for that long distance call and the inter- action between hotel, restaurant, exhibition hall and convention center must be together. You're fooling yourself and you're hurting downtown Miami by tempor- ary remote bad exhibition hall and taking away the real impetus that this commun- ity has. Nowghis commission, the County Commission and the people in thie aud- ience really got behind a downtown convention exhibition facility with the same enthusiasm that you want to fix this I think you would do much better as a bus- iness as job seeking; that's one. Now (2) if this building needs new landscap- ing, new painting, new plumbing, new electric, new accoustics, new slabs, new walls and new roof the actual physical thing that you're saving is a little structure. As an architect I would tell any client don't save the structure to save pennies, build a new building and build it right. Build a beautiful build- ing in Miami. Why should Miami have second rate buildings? Why should San Francisco and Houston and every place the Mayor said do it first rate, and by the way, this wasn't even a hanger. - This was put together for the American Legion Convention many years ago and now it still a facility and here Miami, a rich community with a beautiful facility is now going to repair it. And one last thing please. I think that Commissioner Plummer hit the nose on the head - we paid a lot of money for an architect to make a plan. You did not call that architect here today, you are now going to hire another architect to evaluate the same thing and I think it is professional courtesy to him and to the commun- ity you should have another meeting next week and have the people who made engineering studies and architectural studies at least discuss this with you and not just arbitrarily assume that what they did was not correct and we're going to go on another, Mayor Ferre; All right, thank you very much, Mr. Treister. The next speaker, a proponent, Mt: Motty Itaihttt tit Motity 'rait:er and let in blisine§s itt the 'drove acid 14tn tmi exactly for the bitihet Key Auditoti fl at .t but itt t`l m ahtime t belieVe ih there is tom thihq of value and I do thifik that we have to lime sot thing to replaoe it With,. i couldh1t Vote agaihbt Ot go agaifist;what Mr. ' tei:,tt t says or Mrs, Gordon when she says that we heed ah tkhibititei hall and a cohVettion hall but right tuna t think We ought to put our heads torlcthr_t- as far as using a little iragihatioh. In my home town. fey West they took the worst looking building in toWn and tibia Miami is to ising 00tt ventioh.s, these little atrial' eonvehtions of 100, 200 people to the watehotise in the old wino section in Key West. But these people had a taule they Imk t Wanted to restore something. 1 think that a lot of times, 1 kttow Lester likes to see restoration and things like this., and 1 would like to see the 'City i f Miami get into softie restoration projects along the way acid 1 have in bind this old Underwood building; 141 lay it on your lap, someone go after it, lid like to see something like the cannery in Sat Francisco, I think we can do things like this in Miami. 1 don't think we have to level things and then build up big buildings. 1 think we can use our imagination maybe hot for a million -eight, maybe we can get in there for $500,000 or a million dollars and just give it a face lift, a Little cosmetic and do for the next five years until we can all put our heads together and get on this convention hall and ekhibition hall. .i. They took the oldest warehouse in town, spent about a quartet of a million dollars in Key West, it's still going, still functioning and.. Mrs. Gordon Are you talking about the Mayor Terre: Mrs. Gordon, please. I'm going to rule you out of order and I will respectfully request that you Write it down like I'm doing. I've already got two pages of notes and then I'll recognize you and you come up but let's see if we can get through all of these speakers. Mr. Trainer:, But by using your imagination as in towns like Key West, Seattle, Charleston, Pensacola, New Orleans, St. Augustine and now everybody has felt this money crunch and they're getting into these things where they have to use their ingenuity and maybe do like I did, maketablesout of Burton Goldberg's trash pile, whatever. I think we can all pitch together and save something. Thank you. Mr. glummer: I object to his terminology, we have no winos in Key West; a few drunks but no winos. Mayor Ferre Are there any other opponents who wish to be heard? How many other speakers do we have left? Do you have to speak? Unless you really have to speak, I think we've heard... You know, we're just repeating. Go ahead. Mr. Ken Miller: Mr. Mayor, commissioners, my name is Ken Miller. I'm an architect practicing here in Coconut Grove and I'm opposed to retaining Dinner Key Auditorium. I feel that it is a tired old building. I think to prop it up with crutches and band -aids and give it transfusions would only defer a proper answer for this kind of facility, that is needed and I believe in down- town Miami. I'm very frustrated because -I feel that our urban scene downtown is very poor. I feel that we need impetus downtown. We need a viable living community downtown and I feel that anything that can be done to improve the facility downtown Miami would be infinitely superior. I feel that again as Mr. Trcister said that it is only a courtesy to invite the architect that did the detail study of the area just recently and if you will recall in, that plan ho has open space and park so that from South Bayshore one can see the water, can see the boats. A facility more 'remote from that choice location and smaller scale would be more in keeping. So I'm opposed to retaining something that has seen its day in favor of a better facility downtown. Mr. Fred Hutchinson: Fred Hutchinson, I'm a resident of Coconut Grove and President of the Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce. I would like to say that the Chamber of Commerce has to in one degree or another support the retainage of some activities in the Dinner Key area whether or not it be the auditorium or a new building whatever it may be,' We have to have people in the Grove area to promote business. I'm not sure that if the Dinner Key Plan wasn't implemented this wouldn't create people as well. Thank you, Mr. Paul Andre; Very briefly, Mr. Mayor, Mrs. Gordon, Father Gibson, Mr. Reboso and Mr, Plummer my name is Paul Andre, I'm a director of the Marine council, I'm a Past president of the Chamber of Commerce of Coconut GroeVe, We have appeared before you people for 14 years now for getting an increase in the 6i3 MAY 221975 t ,ael i i l i.et at Winer ner Rey tot fatihe purposea. We have been planned to death, iqt± have b t# pottp-ened 'te death and as of this date l dbfi4 t thii i weve gained fine additional facility in the binnet trey area in the 14 years that five come &iwfl huteh `We endorse this plan that we have that Tripp Russell did which was ,i bt•auititiii plain and it was designed tor mass implementation. NO whete i i here is "hete a progressive iinpittentatioe of the benefits afid facilities that We eft here. We canat do it (1) there is no Way in the world that this eity can go ahead and say Weave going ter wipe it ail out and put it iti secordanee with this Mastet $lah which everybody $h this commission very vociferously efizioraed; i feel that (1) that certainly there is a facility needed in downtown Miami. We have recognized that for many years. Also that this facility that we have here and Xee by the way that was two hangers, they pushed them together for the Ana-. i:cah Legion Convention (1 unfortunately was here then with .l.l,. j . 'phis particular facility serves another purpose which many of you don't even realise et consider but during hurricane tides it is the refuge. one of the few hurricane refuges for small-bdits for people who have small boats oh trailers and for many years trove havo bech allowed to bring their boats in there and store there and give a hurrican`Safe facility in that respect. We feel that utilization of this area where it compliments any marine operation is Mist going to have to continue. thank you, Mr. Leon Manny: Mr. Mayor, commissioners, I'e Leon Manny, President of Manncraft exhibitor service and Greyhound Exposition Service. We're a national service contractor and have operations in 10 different cities throughout the United States and we operate all of these cities which you discussed and we know all the facilities and in answer to Commissioner Plummer and Ken Treister most of the conventionsare handled by buses or taxis. There are very few in any cities that don't have transportation furnished in attending these conventions.'_ I can assure you that unless you have a facility now that can offset Miami Beach when it is busy the economy here can do only nothing but get worse. Mr. Harold Burke: Mr. Mayor, I' appeared before you this morning. My name is Harold Burke. I'm connected with the exhibit business in Miami and have been for many years and particularly in Miami. I have worked in Dinner Key and I have worked in Dinner Key since about 1952 and I've' seen the auditorium used and I've seen it made up beautifully. I have worked on the Motorama when it came to Miami at least three times and General Motors people for much less than $3,000,000 made that auditorium look beautiful. And I'm not saying that that can be done today nor can it be done in the way that it would be done here. I can only say this that I can recall vividly at one time that we had one prob- lem down there where we had to search the city for heaters on one day because it was cold and then search the city for fans the next day, because it was hot. But what I've seen happen to the Dinner Key Auditorium over the period of years is that the management has just not been good in my estimation and recently since you got rid of the other management you now have a manager there, I think it in Miss Bush. You do not have a better manager in the city than Elizabeth Bush and if Elizabeth was given the opportunity to do something with that audit- orium believe me it would be done because she has done one hell of a job at the Miami Bay Front Auditorium. I do think that in all due respect to the experts here the Dinner Key Auditorium is worth doing something with. I also think that it can be done very inexpensively for the planning by getting a committee of people who are willing to sit down and talk and can use their own ingenuity on what can be done. I think that architects are not the answer. I have found in many auditorium designs that we have worked in and in public space designs that ifthe architect would have spoken to somebody they would have had some- thing much better and I think that what could be done is the same thing that possibly Mrs. Gordon is doing with respect to Bay Heights is a task force that might come up in 60 days with something that will relieve the traffic flow. Mr._H. J. Hoodwin:_ Mr. Mayor, my name is H.J. Hoodwin. I'm an engineer and a former employee of the Department' of Engineering of the City of Miami. In such capacity I've had the pleasure of working with the Dinner Key Auditorium Build- ing in the past in repairing the building and so forth. I'd like to call to your attention that about 212 years ago I was asked to make an evaluation of the structure for the Exposition Corporation of America because they were concerned with possibly leasing the building, I'd like to refer to part of your report, an item which was spoken about before. In other words in this evaluation of the Dinner Key Auditorium it says, "The structural engineer reported it in poor condition" but nowhere did the structural engineer say that the building is structurally unsound. It is in poor condition and we recognize that fact and that was the basis of part of the information which I included in my report to Exposition Corporation of America. We came up With a figure at that time of about 241 years ago of about a million and a half dollars to put the building law a good workable usable condition. That report was upgraded recently and I believe- 1 64 MAY 221975 a abpy of it has beeri Available to the people of the City of Mutt. t'd Ilia to call tb yer-att`e#itit h one other item. hack itt abet lg b t teas asiced to make A study of the test ot develepifg a piece et property then khown as the ftavot Itaet afi'd i'h -saying this for Mrs. 'dordeh's benefit, it is very easy to say let's ado somethitg. th lg40 we also prepared plane for hteit bridges for the Miami Avenue bridge., S.t. 2nd AVehUt fridge and find copies of those plans in the eity► files with many many hundreds of others that have fiever bdtn ittplemented tvow it it very easy to gay itt.s rot a t1b .er out here and kt ek this thit; down. I'd like to put it to you thin way, if you knock that down t think you'd be destroying about a million and a halt dollars worth of salvageablestructure that can be apfil ied to a building that eeuld be revamped, reworked and Wised temporarily until such time as the city can afford to tome up with your other taciiitr ins. but I think that ih the meantime we have some of the finest talent its the country right here in the south Plorida area and these people eould eomte up with a rework of that building and structure which would be a benefit to the city. Mr, bingo eyes: My name is Diego ryes and I live here in Miami. I am an architect. 1 have my office down in South Miami, t have looked at this piece of property many times. ' I have walked through it, the paved areas and everything else that goes With it. It has occured to rye through listening here to everything that you have had to say just a very simple question or a very simple statement. Has it occured to you or anybody that the downtown redevelopment or assembly halls are the important things to really deal with that right now we have an assembly hall or an exhibition hall that does stand there, it does serve a purpose, it has a meaningful existence right now whether it be injured or whether it needs a rehauling or whatever it needs it is there and it is in use. Now why can't we just leave it there for a while, take care of the downtown area, take care of our funds and put them down there where they really are needed and once that is done come on back and do whatever you want to do with this one here. ...or possibly use this as it is being used right now. The building may be in many peoples' ideas or feelings as a very ugly building. Well, I don't know. I think it is a very meaningful building. I think it has some nice feeling to it. It is an old building and it should look old and maybe by just painting it or whatever has to be done to it to reassemble and put it back in function might be enough. So don't tear it down, go downtown and do what you have to do and then come back. Mr. Jim McDonnell: My name is Jim McDonnell,' I'm the immediate past president of the beach chamber and I'm President of Andy Frain Service. All I would like to say will tkae me 10 seconds and then I'll finish. With this community depending 42% on tourism and with that the only facility in Miami that can attract people here and does attract over a half a million people a year to spend money in this community I think it is inconceivable to go ahead and not spend some money, keep on bringing' them here and then keep on working on your plan. The community can support both facilities. Mr. Bob Hewes: My name is Bob Hewes. I represent Hewes Boat Company. We've been in the boat business for 49 years. We've been in Miami since early 30's. I would like to break out the facts here that we have participated in every boat show that has ever been in Miami since they've ever had a boat show. My father started the Miami International Boat Show, one of the directors of it. I started what is now known as the Miami Dinner Key Boat Show. The facts are that we do as much business with small boats in the Miami Dinner Key Auditor- ium as we do in the Miami International Boat Show on the beach. These are facts. The fact is we need these facilities, we need them now. Mayor-Ferre: I assume that is it from the membersof the public. Now, I'll recognize each member of the commission to make a statement and then we have a motion and a second and we're going to vote hopefully and move along. Mrs. Gordon, I'll recognize you first. Mrs. Gordon: I wasn't able to write down all the questions I would have asked, at the time but Mr, Burke, I don't intend, I address this to you in response to what you said, it is not my intention to demolish the building until we have a replacement structure, Mr. Diego Cyes the same thing applies to yor comment with regard to the immediate demolition and no place to go. A face lifting of the building,;a paint job that's one thing but a Major structural renovation is another thing. An2 or 3 million, $4,000,000 investment to me would be a very poor investment in the structure and wouldn't want it to happen. I would like to say that as I said before it would be my hope that we would wait until the next meeting and we would in the meantime have our own department give us an analysis of what is worth saving in that building so that we then estimate MAY 221975 *hat we are c bi 4 tb have to add to it to stake it a worthwhile building ,ifiid ur du We want that tilt building heret Would we rather take that ihifestTent and lilt it di thtfth with our convention defter? 1 iidbiild .alst) like tt see this commission put this Matter a additional funding for the r.xhibitibfi hall till the ballot in t4 iefibet SO that we might have that money ahi ha`! it all dowfitown. 1 think downtown Heeds fenovating. 1 think that this will be Ah impetus for downtown. 1 think that if we could paea a 3g.B million dollar bond issue to buy parks tha_ We can certainly pass a $10000400 bond iesu€ to put ah exhibition `hall if all of the energy and ehthusiacin of those ptopbhents in this roost got behind that kind eft a bond issue we'd get it Massed. 1 would hope that we could defer this matter untilthe next meeting tend have sir, Andrews come back with sore facts and figures, Mr. Melton here present to respond to what he has to say about it* He did the study, he should be consulted, he should be here when we make a decision. Mr. kebeso: Mr. Mayor, I think we should go ahead as I said before. 1 think it i.s only a maximum of $8000 and that we should proceed with the evaluation e4 '!Armor key Auditorium. Mr, Plummer: Mr, Mayor, Mr, Andre I think hit quite a bit of what l have to nay on the head. Unfortunately, this Dinner itey Study came back in a context which it seems like all of our studies. and obviously we don't exert the con- trol over these studies that we should; we had approximately 41 million dollats to redo Dinner Key, Mr. Melton's study came back in the neighborhood of $12,000,000 which in fact says one thing, it never will be done. Mr. Mayor,'I think as a commissioner I' have the right to know. I don't know what condition that building is in. I' don't know what it would cost to make that thing presentable and I think I have the right to know these facts and if I can get these facts and figures for 5 to $8000 I personally think that it is money well spent. Now lest me put some stipulations on my yes vote. (1) I want the study, Mr. Andrews, to address itself to a chaotic condition that exists out here with the every big show that we have is parking. I want the study to address that. (2) I am nrii in favor in any way of any expansion. (3) I think very importantly that one• of the speakers brought out is to the economic feasibility. (4) When this report is forthcoming back to the commission as I said before I would like Mr. Russell. Melton here to give his views. We've heard MR. Goodwin's views which were contrasting and as a Commissioner I think I have the right to know and unfortunately the only way I can derive that right is by spending $5000 I think it is money well spent. Mrs. Gordon: I have a question. Where are we going to get the money if it does come back 3 or $4,000,000, Mr. Andrews? Are we going to wait and decide that after we spend the $8000? Mayor Ferre: I think I'm entitled to make a statement now, everybody else has. Mrs. Gordon: No, just let's have an answer to the question then you make your: statement, Mr. Mayor. I'm entitled to an answer to the question. Where are you going to get the money? Mr. Andrews: Well first of all, Mrs. Gordon,_ I'm not sure that it will be $3,000,000 but assuming it were the commission would have to make a decision then to program a portion of the unallocated capital improvement monies that we have toward the renovation. Mrr,. Gordon: How much are they? Mr. Plummer: We don't know that's what I want to know. Mayor Ferre: The unallocated moneys are getting close to $20,000,000 between now and the end... Are you talking about the franchise? Mr. Andrews: Yes. Mayor Ferre: Close to $20,000,000, Mrs. Gordon: hall? Mayor Ferro: Mrs, Gordon: Mayor Ferro: give You my; Then why can't some of that be used for a downtown exhibition It can. Well, why are we fiddling around? I€ you will permit me the privi1edge that I permitted You I will are there any other questions that you want before,.. MAY221975 Mt-:, i'lummert Mt1 Mayor, before you start may l jut;t Make one thing that 1 t r(jet;' 1 don't want atiy the to go away from here that thy yes v2 tt fbt this study t estm►its mie tO any yes as rat as what this study btifigs out' 1 want that underttOOdi Arid the thing that dos disturb me is het one petsbt`i spoke that how valuable this thing was but ho one was willing to kick in lb* t het whether or not it was feasible and that bothers tie very much sb, Thank your Mayor Ferret With regards to ken Treisteri s e Latemetit,'Kent Mutton, 1 just came back from Mutton, has three of these things. One does hbt its any way conflict with the other or prevent the other from being used just at much, the distance between then is pretty large ih the oases of two of theta. There ate ho hotels around the Astro Mail. The hotels are all 25 mihutet away and that doesn't hold it back. Mc formick place ih Chicago which is the largest convention hall ih the United States is a le to 15 minute taxicab tide when- ever you can got across there so that portion of it 1 don't go along with, Now 1 don't think anybody has any doubts ir, their mind who know a little bit about Maurice ?erre that I have a very deep and sincere interest ih downtown Miami. So you would say well why then are you doing this which its not in the best interest of downtown Miami. Well, let me put it to you this way - 1 don't accept that premise. I think anything that helps this community is ih the interest of downtown Miami. I think anything that strengthens this community will strengthen downtown Miami. I think we need more than one exhibition hall. I would hope that someday this community would have three and four and that they would all be in use and one would be in the north part of town and one in the south part of town and one in Miami and one in Miami Beach. I see no reason why they couldn't be multiple purpose. Now let me address myself to this: Lester Pancoast talked about that ugly building and how it would... And I agree. But certainly I think we can use a little imagination and we could find ways of not making, it quite as ugly by landscaping. It doesn't have to remain as asphalt forever. We could work around that and these are things that I would hope the study would address. Now with regards to studies and the studies for bridges over the Miami River that have never been used in 40 yearn and the Doxiadis study and this study and that study and all the many many studies. We have so many studies, we study things and we all dream and they never happen. This study itself this wonderful beautiful blue book, that's a $15,000,000 study. That was finished a year and a half ago. We haven't even taken the first step to do that. The total implementation of that study would cost $15,000,000 and I might point out that that study is no where even near the beginning of implementation much less finalizing it. We haven't done any- thing in a year and a half really. I mean we're thinking of doing things but we really haven't gotten to it. Now, I might point out that it won't be 15, million it will be $30,000,000 if we implement that study. Now all these studies that we make that never get implemented are just more fantasy world. The difference between us and Houston is that Houston does things - we study things. They've got oil. Ok, but we have people who have a will and hopefully we can get some of these things done. Now that study was a general study. It didn't deal just with that building, it dealt with the whole spectrum of Dinner Key so therefore, that's just one aspect of it. That's all. That doesn't mean that if we do this that we scuttle everything else. There is one last point which L wrote down here which I wanted to bring out and that is; no, two more things on studies - little things in this town. Mr. -Andrews, when I` first went on the commission in the year 1967 which is 8 years ago Mr. Eefting was study- ing and got the commission's approval for the improvement of 15th'Road. That is a little project. Where is that now? I mean just out of curiosity? Mr. Grimm: We have two more parcels of land to acquire and we'll will finally acquired them all, Mayor Perre: That's what Ted, that's what Mr. Eefting told me in the year 1969. He said we've got three more parcels and we're going to have it under way by the end of the year. It's 1975. I first started wrestling with this little problem in 1967 and we are in 1975. Now if we can't solve the little problem of l5th Road and the little problem of Biscayne Boulevard and this and that and so many other little things that we're going to get done. And how many times you say, "well why don't we get on with the convention hall?" Well, why haven't we? I've been on this commission since 1967 off and on and the Mayors and all the commissioners have always wanted to get along with it. Mr, Reese wanted to, Paul Andrews, we've tried, we've been knocked around. Lester Pancoast, he and his firm, we spent close to a half a million dollars in designs for a convention center and where is it? It hasn't been done, You know it is always the same thing, We're going to do it the right way it has to be done, In the meantime nothing happens, Ladies and gentlemen, all I'm saying is that 1 think it would be money well spent for us to spend (1) $8000 to study this thing and get it 6] MAY221975 bat+ tb ue to we can see it. (0) t hope that it can be 'done because 'm going to Vetn for it hopefully and t hope that within a million because Pitt heard of figures at i w as a million dollars that we oats ait eohditioiw that place, put a hew roof of it, paint it, landscape it and get it in shape tot better eoMMunity use. his a bush essMan I can al:Most guarantee you that with that kind of investment into that building, We will more than pay £or that ih roar or five years. And we are not going to have anything else in the beat a. time and X think that is nbmething that could be done within a year, it is practical, it it feasible, it is do -able. 1 would like °to get •oft With it and ''1 would strongly recomMend that this oommiesion vote for tine $A000 and hopefully if it is a positive tetdMitendation that we hold a public hearing and proeeed. Mrs, Cordon: Maurice, I don't want to make an issue of it but a million dollars, was that including the sanitary facilities, the bathrbbme too/ You know plumbing and electric are very ekpensiVe Mayor terra: The figure that I saw and I think I got it from Larry Pearl. Larry, didn't you tell The a million two hundred thousand dollars would air condition, roof it and give some additional sanitary room/ A minion four, that was your engineer's study? A11 right. I don't think it will be a million four but let's move on now, is there further discussion? The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 75-496 A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGERTO ENTER INTO NEGOTIAT- ION FOR AN ENGINEERING STUDY FOR RECONSTRUCTION OR REMODELING OF THE DINNER KEY AUDITORIUM FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8000 WITH A FACTUAL REPORT TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSION WITHIN 60 DAYS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer NOES: Mrs. Gordon ABSENT: None. 29, DISCUSSION ITEMS 1. P�YPIENfi FAR VIRGINIA KEY PROPERTY vice MAYQR Pu1MMER 2, AGQUI,S JTQN QF P P TY R Ro � FOR CONVENTION HALLMr. Plummer: I think this goes hand in hand. I'll ask Mr. Andrews first. For the convention facility of downtown Miami the Water and Sewer Authority are to pay us'5.3 million dollars. Have we got it? Mr. Andrews: Yes. Mr. Plummer: We have it in the bank? Mr, Andrews: Yes. I believe it has been transferred. It has not. I thought we had it. It is dependent on the closing. They're ready to give us the money, I've checked on that. It is available to us and I thought we had it already because... Mr. Plummer:` Where do we stand in reference to the acquisition of the property? Mr. Andrews: I'm going to be reporting to the commission on the Various sites within three weeks. Mr. Plummer Acquisition within three weeks? Mr. Andrews; I'm going to tell you about the various sites,.. Mr. Plummer; Ok. Garrett is a man of his word. Mr, Andrews, Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, I want to fully under- stand now what you voted on, Po I have the latitude to proceed to the point of getting the report back to you? the motion was passed and Mayor MAY 2 21975 tit 'J;hat' s it. Mayor Pett Mr. Ahdrewsi you've lot $6b0b and ° D days. you 'eb back with ,a report ort and you it ch db it ahy way you tab the best way you 'taxi t uiek1y and ettettivtly. APPtARANCE 8V1 30. MANIC SE VtCING FACILITIES DINNER KEY tligUliirtUktRA .�� s � .1s +a.{ f! j Aie� j fi1, .► sfir i 14.04- -t i4 +110 fil ifilth4 1 r fi -, #-iii .A neitt i tpm MAV even )r: Tbtt ebnttovetsiai that, the iter We just heard. I maybe say that t acr,t. i ounly. Mt. Mayor, We have a problem of Moving ahead with the develop- thrtht of a pottibn of bthher key as ihvisiohed by the Master plant which em- braces the development of marine service facilities. It is the area flow occupied by Merrill Stevens through their leas agreement and by trove Key Martha through their lease agreement. The City COMMIS -Sion has tb make a decision today whether it wishes procedurally to hear a proposal from Merrill Stevens as to the development of this. This tatter is divided into two parts - one of fully understanding the procedures that exist as it relates to these two leases which are now operating and any proposed itnprovetnent. t and the balance of the City administration involved in this matter of the development have laid out a thought process and a procedure which would in- volve private enterprise in the development of the marine service facilities now occupying the two areas under lease. Mr. Crouch,I'll ask you to raise that map so we can identify and you point to the two areas that are under dinc.:ussi.on and if we pass around the blue brochure we can identify the type tit Improvement that is planned for that area. The two areas in question are the area occupied by Merrill Stevens and their operation from the two hanger facilities... And before you hear the proposal you have to understand the procedure here because you may change your mind about hearing them today or you may decide to go ahead and hear them. The second area is a leas by Grove Key Marina. They are here today also, Mr. Meredith is here. Now let me tell you very briefly about the two lease areas. Merrill. Stevens has a lease that has a lease provision for an additional 10 years usage of the property. Approx- imately a year ago I sent them a letter putting them on notice due to the way we're planning to develop this total property occupied by both leases that we were exercising our right under the lease to now bring the lease to a conclus- ion and permit them to operate on a month to month basis. They have, of course, objected to this and feel that they have a right to continue to the use of their Property under the lease in that their claim is that the way we want to use the property is no different than they Ore now using it. Of course, we're contest - mg ng that. Mr. glummer: Where do you get the administrative authority to circumvent this ,:',mm i tm i nn of making that decision? Mr. Andrews: By the fact that you adopted a Master Plan and its implementation and the way the buildings are now occupied, the way the property is now utilized it does not fit the Master Plan. Mr. Plummer: Neither did Grove Key. Mr. Andrews: That's right and they're on notice too. Mr. Plummer: But this commission, well now wait a minute. They're on notice for their picking up their additional two year option. Mr. Andrews: Yes, but -they're also on notice that if we should move ahead in the contract 'agreement itself that if we should move ahead at an earlier (late they would be given 6 months notice. Mayor Ferret May_I just make a comment? And this is just a matter of Philos- ophy on my part and you may or may not agree with me, the members of the com- mission. I'll tell you one of the things that really impresses me as I go around the country looking at cities is where you have a real healthy growing operation is when you have the private sector investing money and involved with the public sector, Whenever you see a raport and a joint thing where you've got the private guys putting up restaurants and marinas and facilities on pub- lic property with the safeguards, the proper protection of the public you've 'Jut growth, the good kind of growth. I know some of the architects get upset when we use the word growth but I'm talking about healthy growth, Growth is not a bad thing by itself, You know it is only bad growth, I'm talking about good clean healthy well planned humanized growth for all the people, Ok? MAY221975 yoithri, old, White, black, irhristiah, JeWish, the whole bit •acid it call bt dote it tt 'i do about it with a lot of forethought and platinihg.. tut we've got to accept that approach that We in i ovtthmer t ea -mot solve all the pt6bleffie4i4 rlbt i t have enough mbhty. We don't have ct eugh tine. We dohi t have though statf to r o it. We've got to get the private seetor interested- Now 't 1 . It toe tan ale#t,rrst,l,e that: art! really pushing and an iibi s like softie Of these people Uht Ate 1t=4t:itrt tar,mf' 7,t them! city properties I think we ought to go tut or our way to help t hMn it it helps m;, t4t,w Om not tot givihr4 anything.We've got to give .inrl wr'vr' got. to take, but f r wo go out of otiaway tO help that 0Mhi Ct rporat& it h iti lit atria. Anrl what's that fellow's bate? Alpert. if We go out of tour way to help Alpert and the O hi corporatioh and did all these things theta l think we ought to take that satne kind of apptoaeh with our. Own people who live ih this community and are willing to invest their i`uhds for the "public good. Mr. Andrews: yes, and I'm prepared to do that and ittn prepared to make a teem - mchdation to the City Oomtnission but we have a practical problem involvi g two leases here that you have to u:nderstand because t don't want Merrill Stevens, or I don't think the commission wants Merrill Stevens to make a presentation to you on a plan and then Grove Ney Marina with Mr. Meredith present who has a lease that willonlyrun for two more years maybe wishing to do the same thing. Now in f.sirhess to Mr. Meredith l've already told him that if it gets itito that posit A, ion and the commission were to turn to me for recommendation t would have tb at thitt,point in time say, Let us only consider the dealing with Merrill Stevens for development of the full property and when Grove Xey Marina completes its lease in two years if we successfully negotiate with them they will then further develop their property, not their property but the property on which their lease in. So you're faced with the procedural problem - do you want to listen to the proposal of Merrill Stevens? Mr Meredith is not prepared to make his presentat- ion today. But even if he does recognizing that they have 10 more years to run', oh their lease and he only has two years to run in his lease that I would have to recommend to the commission that we deal with the people who have the longer lease because to do otherwise means that they certainly would exercise their option and remain there for 9 to 10 more years while we only can develop a small portion. Mayor Ferre: Or there might be a middle ground. The middle ground might be that if it is a large enough project... Let me tell you it all depends on how you look at it. Now that's an awful big piece of property. Now again talking about. Houston I don't know how many of you have seen this Gallerie in Houston but it is amazing how in a relatively small piece of property how much things you can put around here and do it beautifully and ecologically acceptable... Mr. Plummer: Paul, I've got the whole answer. We just don't let the Mayor travel no more. I've had a history lesson in the last two hours - National :eographi c on two legs. Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and commissioners, there is one more aspect of this that you should be cognizant of and that is in the letter that I have written to Merrill Stevens, which they've taken exception to the city and Merrill Stevens are proceding on a course that will take us into court. Now I'm not sure how the court will rule. I have a feeling the court will favor the city but that is an opinion. Nevertheless, there sets in the background of all of this if we do not resolve it a matter which the courts must resolve and that is whether the city is correct or Merrill Stevens is correct with reference to the lease. Our attitude that because of the development of the properties that is suffic- ient grounds to give them notice to bring the lease to a conclusion so that we can develop the property. That provision is within the lease agreement and of course they've taken exception. Mr. Plummer: Yes, Paul,. but all truthful I think Mr. Meredith and I think Mr. Bailie have an interest at heart and I don't think there is anything that can't, be set down at a table, thought out, worked over that like the Mayor said before crin't come out tothe best interest of both and more importantly, to the inter - put of thie city. Now I just don't think Alex wants to take us to court quite ynt, I don't think he is any big hurry., As a matter of fact I'll suggest he'd better not even consider it, . Andrews: He's in court with us already. Mr, Plummer; Well, there's things called continuances. Mr, Mayor, you know Paul Andre was speaking at me when he saying about the fact that by God we've been talking talking talking, I think we have a unique opportunity not just the two parcels Paul, I'm going to go further, I'm going to go all the way over to that unmentionable word called Underwood and I think' that whole area 1 t rii right htte where Gtt t e Key is presetstly tight sack dowh tb that yacht Ailub Ahould 1 thought bout of a tohtihuous plate and t think we aught to give you the latitude to sit 'digit with Mr4 balfei with Mr. Meredith, Mr. "t'tai et 4111) is i,vCi%e1 its there very much sts ihvolved and cote back with Ndmt.thing 1 think that it 1 ktt6w the ihagihatiCh that you da t use that you r:ar� r2ome bath with a package to this city that will just be astout dittii . mid that its -what I would be ih tat Ot at this point. Mt. Ahdrewst Mr. Mayot-► 1 think yoti and the cvmfl issibh ate ih a ttnigue posit= ion :i n that the 'question you have to to i se of the patties that you mentioned, are they twilling tb sit clown and do this. Mayor Perrot We're going to ask then►, Let's give them an opportuhity because i'11 tell you if they're hot then they may be just talking to thentselves or to somebody in a eourtrOOM. Mr. Alex Salle, Mr. t►leX Ballet Mayor terse and Vice Mayor Plummer, Mrs. Gorden, rather Gibsoh and where is Mr. 1eboso? Mr, Mayor, I'm Alec Balfe, Merrill Stevens bry bock Company and with me today are the owners and directors of Merrill Stevens and a number of our staff. These are people who put their life into Merrill Stevens to fake it go. Now first of all we believe that this new plan for the develop- ment of Dinner Key is tremendous. The concept is good and Merrill. Stevens favors it. We favored it from the beginning when Mr. Melton first started. We believe though that there are certain limitations that we would like to get in and discuss. Now remember this: This is the front door in Miami for yachting. This is also the show place for people and we believe that Merrill Stevens after many months of hard work with architects and these people have come up with a plan that will satisfy both and we'd like to present that plan. Now we have a very able large spokesman. His name is Lester Johnson and he is well armed. Jester Johnson, he's vice-president in charge of Dinner Key. Mayor Torre: Now I'm perfectly willing, Lester, to listen to you but I think I•ather Gibson has a proper point. Are we going to let you make a presentation when some of the other' people are not prepared and haven't been given that opportunity? If you don't mind the disadvantage that might cause for you since I. don't think we're going to act on this today I'm perfectly willing if you want to lip your hand and let them see it and they come up with a better mousetrap. Mr. Lester Johnson: The hand was tipped when the Master Plan was drawn. Mayor Ferre: That's a good point. I'm perfectly willing to let you proceed if you want to. Mr. Johnson: Mr. Mayor and commissioners, Rev. Gibson: If the hand was tipped when the Master Plan was drawn, Sir, you knew the hand was tipped, didn't you? Sure. We're about to proceed so you'd better answer now. You are the one of the tenants we have over there? I heard another' name. Who is the other outfit? Mr. Andrews: tenants. Mr. Plummer: Trainer and the restaurant. Uttl.UENTII'IED SPEAKER: He left. Rev. Gibson: Ok. Well, he left; he was here he knew this was coming up. Ok, uir, now you can answer. Mr. Spencer Meredith: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, my name is Spencer Meredith. I live at 2951 S. Bayshore Drive and I'm President of Grove Key Marina, the other tenant that we're talking about here. I'm Merrill Stevens' neighbor. When we bid on the property that used to be Santana and is now Grove Key the bid was for a two year lease with a two year option and it appeared at than time that the implementation of the Master Plan was not about to take place in the immediate years ahead. The plan itself as it is written calls for a staged series of development with certain things being done initially, It seemed to us that the development would take place along those lines. Now when we moved in on that property there were 57 boats there. Right now there is 280 boats there, The revenues that the city used to derive from that property under the Previowi tenant were 21-$22,000 a year, The second year of operation we paid the city a little over $50,000. Now obviously we have working within the con- text of the buildings that are there we've done the best we could to implement the Dinner Key Master Plan by landscaping, by building, construction, by repaiiin9 71 MAY 221975 s aht1 by expanditig the facilities and services I think are have tried very sitcereiy tb do that, Weive spent over $1So.bbb ih tht last two years it that area. Now Merrill Steveht Wants to make a ptesttitatioi'i to you all today on what their ideas are tot this area and as they+ve pbiftted out they've brought tht it dit eotbrs and some of their staff mtmbtrs and so have we be :ause I thihk We also ate extremely interested ih u:'hat they plate ih this Arta, W& vt tried very hard to do what Awe thought was right for the lrubl ire .ihd thti city and if thty wish to Make a presentation 1 have do bbjetyt' oh tb it but 1 would like tt, be •able to thake d cothtfeht after that4 Mayor Verret That's perfectly acceptable, Mt, 'luthMer: Mr, Johnson, 1 have tto objections to watchihq your presetftatm ion but t want you to fully understand that I attt hot prepared t r will 1 make a decision today, Mr. Johnson: To what? Mr, Plummer: To anything that relating to Dinner Key. Mayor Ferret Lester, 1 think you'd better understand that I think the mood of this commission is not to make a decision on any one plan today, Mr,'JohnHon: That's fine, Mayor. we're not asking for a decision on, the plan. Phut it you may, my understanding in the some 12 meetings I've had with the City Manager Was to present to you a proposal not for you .to accept a plan and I'd like the opportunity to present it. Mayor Ferre: I think that is fair. Now I'm going to rule that if you would sit down and you would proceed with your presentation. We'll hold our quest- ions until after you finish with your... Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, before we proceed so that everybody could understand because once I have to vote I'm going to vote. You understand, sir that they .:rr.permitted to make a presentation and let me understand from the commission you're going to give that man an opportunity to make a presentation before we make a decision. Mayor F'erre: The chair will recognize them again And, furthermore, the chair will further recognize them in the future if they want to make a presentation also before we come to a final conclusion. I' hope where this is all going to !aid up back with the Manager to sitdown and try to work out a whole plan for that whole area and6proceed Hev.'ctibson: Gentlemen, you all understand I'm talking for Theodore, I'm not talking for anybody else but Theodore. You understand that you now put your - helves in the position to tip your hand... You could tip your hand and you would see it if you were playing cards. Do you understand? Mr. Johnson: I understand what you're saying, yes. Rev. Gibson: Ok, beautiful. Mr. Johnson: Gentlemen, I'm going to make this presentation as I planned it, and ladies. Commissioners, what you see before you is the same geographical outline that you saw when the City Manager and Mr. Crouch showed it to you. This is an outline of the property now occupied by the marine industry at Dinner Key. For your orientation this is S. Bayshore Drive and this is Pan American Drive. The red line indicates the public do not come in this is a restricted area, it's not safe for you to walk here type of facility. There is no fence across this area but the working area effectively prohibits the public from coming in there - effectively, this being Biscayne Bay and this boring don't come in area. This represents a non-public area. The proposal which we're going to show you today and which we will ask at the end of it that you authorize the City Manager to enter negotiations with us to perfect will propose that this yellow boundary line become that new work area by necessity of security, of safety for the public and for the operation of an marine facility become the new don't come in public, you can't walk in here, it's not safe it's not secure and the rest of this area then become very pub- lic, It would become by the way it would be developed a very public area because it would be landscaped, the traffic patterns, the roadways, the tram- ways, the bike ways; the facilities that will be included in this public area will invite the public down to this promontory of Dinner Key, invite it along this way and you'll see a visiting boat dock as l unvail these plans and tip MAY221975 w my helnd to you ih this area and wt will uhvaii for you exactly what 'tie wotlt d i i k+e tc do, hbw we W6uid like for Alt to pay tot it and the timing it whit ii it wcUld be dope itt:v, dib.:Jort if you were to turh that this way this world be Pah ttet .oafi this way, Pight, 1 see. Ok. Gobd'i Mr. ,iohhsbht th this drawing you see the Atildings, the public areae and tht imt pities that we would'i.htend to develop •.t bihher Key through our OUT; f inahcinci sources oh behalf of the operation and the City of Miami, You tees these three math buildings which are marina service areas. We have tom- i,,yctrd by methods of modern technology, by work planning, by efficiently organ- icicle how this area should be used we have compacted that area as I showed you in that first sketch into a much sitaller facility. We have also increased the number of boats that can be handled. This building alone can handle 400 boats up to 28-feet. These buildings Will be able to service the total number of boats that will be eventually in your ginner Key Master Plan for all of the anchorages and boat slips that you plan to build in the future. Mayor Parre: As 1 understand that one in the middle is there chow. Mr.. Johnson: No, there are no buildings. All four of the hangers would be town down. Mayor Perre: Oh, these are new buildings. Mr. Johnson Yes, sir. These are all new buildings designed for efficient use. This building which is not in the master plan we invision as a star in the crown of Dinner Key as a first class upper level but still within the range of the ordinary person seafood restaurant of the highest quality. We've been negotiating with Universal Restaurants who operates such restaurants as the town Under and the Bodega chain excellent operators. It would be accom- panied by a visiting boat dock and an observation pier. These facilities would invite, of course, the water traffic there whether they be boat loads of tourists or whether they be individual pleasure yachts. In addition to thatall of the commercial operation would be eliminated from this area so that the public can come into this area freely and circulate this whole thing enjoy this point of Dinner Key, observe the water. They would have visual access into the boatyard operation. We would maintain areas where all of these people could see into the area, observe the operation and enjoy that use that is there. In addition to that all of this landscaping, parking and so forth would be done under the same financing plan. The importance of doing it together is this; that as a single building they become less and less attractive to finance. As a unified development (1) the financing becomes much more practical. You do your building coordination and your landscaping, your architecture becomes easily more coordinated. Your traffic planning is greatly simplified. In affect doing it as a package makes more sense than doing it individually. This whole project we estimate would cost approximately $3,000,000. We're prepared to negotiate to go ahead with this with the City Manager. Mayor. Perm: Lester, excuse me for interrupting you but I just found out Commissioner Reboso has got to leave at 5 to catch a plane, it is a quarter to 5 and we've got a whole bunch of other things on, the agenda. Plummer has to go shortly thereafter and I really have an appointment at 6:30 so make it real quick. Let me ask you one question in your conclusion. Where is the area that these gentlemen are leasing at the present, time? Mr. Johnson: Well, the geographical area is about here. The entire dry :,t.orage area we would put on this side from our preliminary plans. Yes, sir, it would be adjacent to the Coast Guard Base. Commissioners, let me put it to you this way. We are prepared to go ahead to renegotiate our 10 year lease. As the City Manager has pointed out to you we have not, yet had the lease executed by the city. We are in a position now of being willing to re -negot- iate the lease without it being executed if we can go ahead. Corporately it .is irresponsible for us not to proceed with getting our lease executed if we're not going to negotiate. I'm asking you today to authorize the City Man- ager, Ile has recommended that you do it, I'm asking you to authorize him to enter into lease negotiations with us so that we can proceed on the details of thin and bring back to you a proposed lease. Mayor Perrot All right. What are the other drawings? Are you going to show us the other drawings? Mr. Johnson; It is important that the character of the area be caught, This /. t3 MAY 221975 i o n 'Aetabt Was des thud by 'Thurston Hatchet, our architect for New brleahs. Wo haven't ti't asked him yet to lesigh a restaurant because we think sae 'should do that with the t ity as we 'get along. We utuld intend tb desigh a totohut rove fiestaurant h that prb1ontoty that captures the spirit of thit area4 Mayor Verret Thank you. Is that it, Lester? Mir. Johhsb1 s Will you act oh the request dL this time? Mayor Ferret We'll at dtess ourselves to it ih a Tolfteht► idol] want to comMeht? Mr. Meredith. Yes, please. Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, t requested the right to respond. As Lester pointed out he said he had 12 meetings with the City Manager on the subject. 1 guess in the last couple of months I've had two mhr_otinge'with the City Manager and the last one was on Priday morning last week when he informed me that Merrill Stevehs was plahhing to make a presehtation to you all which would do away with us in Grove;1Cey Marina and its entire operation. I had been under the impression that the city was hot interested in over all approach to revising this entire area which was encompassed by both Merrill SteVehs and by Grove Key Marina nor was I under the idea that they were inter- ested in entertaining a proposition whereby one company would take over the prop- erty that is leased by the other. Obviously I was very concerned about that and between Priday and today I've had not the time to prepare a proposal equal to the one that these gentlemen have had several months to prepare. I request at this time that if a motion is made by the commission that the motion include the right that We have 90 days to prepare a proposement of how we would develop that partic- ular area and how we would finance it and how we would handle the situation and that during the time if Merrill Stevens is going to have discussionswith the City Manager along those lines that we be allowed equal access to the City Manager to obtain the benefit of his views and his feelings as to the public needs for that area. I'm only asking for an equal opportunity. I think we have done a good job and that's all I have to say. Mr. Andrews: One comment, Mr. Mayor. I'm certainly willing to meet with Mr. Meredith. I'd like topoint out that we're extremely proud that they've done business with the city. It is quite obvious the way they've cleaned up the area. They have rendered very fine service there. The income to the city has been excellent. And Mr. Mayor, understand that he and I have had discussions. We have here, Mr. Mayor, a practical problem. I don't want Mr. Meredith and his corporation to go through an expense in preparing a presentation to you and the commission fully beginning to realize that we're dealing with two leases one that has two years to run and the other one that has 10 years to run. Now let's assume that you accept Mr. Meredith's proposal. What are you going to do for 10 years with the balance of the property? Mayor Ferre: You see, that's where the problem is and that is where I would hope, Mr. Andrews, that in your negotiating ability that you will be able to bring these two parties together and hopefully negotiate something that might be acceptable to both of them because the practical aspect of it is that you have rights and you can exercise your option and tie up the property and they have rights for two years and they can say the same thing and then we're at an impass. And what I certainly hope that we can do is that both of you could sit down and work something out where they would be satisfied and you can be satisfied. I don't know what that is. I would hope that there is an area in there where you can both compromise so that you can both be in there somehow someway. But unless' we have that kind of a compromise I think we're going to be in a legal... You're going to exert your rights, they're going to exert their rights and we're going to be the loosers. Everybody is going to loose. Mr. Mayor, when we entered into our lease we had our lease fully exposed to our entire spectrum of all the legal ramifications and I think Grove Key in entering into a lease with an existing Master Plan with the two year lease, I think Merrill Stevens which was formed 11 years before the city knows enough that we've done as fine a job as they've been praised for and I think we've got the right to negotiate a lease. Mayor Perre; In their property. Yes, sir, on the city's property, Mayor I"erne: Where they have a two year lease. Mr, Johnson; Their lease expires just like Santana's expired, 74 MAY 2 21975 MI iyt,t Pottdi tdhe t 41.i their i'ease et pine Mt, inhnt3h'h: It expires tt days from the gate that the City ►lt'ii.fen. Map)? Petret Is that the saute in your case/ Mr. JOhhabht girl, sit, Our lease goes for 16 years. Mr, Andrews: t4ow Mr. Mayor,, wit just a minute, Tn order to protect everyone and t explained this to Mt. Johnson independently attd to Mr. Meredith indepehd� ent y that the only way I would entertain a proposal is if M. dohftabft with my recoMmendation would come to the commission and show thews in their development how they would develop their properties within this two year period that this leave was expiring and Grove Itey Marina would remain there for the two years. Atter the two year period their property would be developed, Mt. Johnsbh And I'm prepared to do that. Mr. Alan Dakar: Mr. Mayor, my naive is Alan Dakan of the law firm of High Stack,. tiaviu and Lazenby. We represent GroVe Key Marina. 1 would simply suggest to the commission as has already been pointed out that you are dealing here not with a private corporation but with public land, land that is highly valuable not only to the city in terms of the lease revenue but in terms of progressing tourism in something which is unique to the City of Miami. I think there are a lot of ramifications here as to how this property should be best developed. I think that it is encumbent upon this City Commission to allow Grove Key Marina to be very definitely involved in this. We have shown you in the short time that we have been there an excellent track record and I think that we have the capability of working with the city and with Merrill Stevens in developing a plan that will involve private enterprise to the extent that the city really would have to put very little money into this thing. I think it would behoove the city at this point to allow the City Manager to deal with Merrill Stevens and Grove Key Marina to determine what is the best way to develop this plan, what is the best economic way to develop it and what is the best way to assure that they'll maintain that. i think it is encumbent that the city do that. Mayor. Ferro: Mr. Andrews, it is obvious to me that we are not going to settle that today at this commission meeting. I would recommend that you get both of these parties together in a room and try to work this thing out equitably and t agree with your premise. Are you following me, Lester? I'm saying that I ,agree with Mr. Andrews' basic premise but I think it is going to take sometime to work this thing out. Hopefully, you can be included. I don't know whether that is possible or not. And then could you come back at the next meeting which would be June 5th with some kind of a solution if it is possible. If not then we'll have to make the hard decision on June 5th. Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, I want the record to reflect very carefully that the city in its position because of a letter that I've written to Merrill Stevens does not recognize, in this point in time does not recognize what they believe is their rights to a 10 year lease. Mayor Ferre: I understand. We're in court on that. That is a matter of the record and we understand that and we're not giving up that. Rev. Gibson: Is June 5th enough? All I'm trying, I'm not for or against any- one. This man says he needs some time to develop a proposal. If we're going to be asked, to make a decision let's be reasonable with that time we're going tc,'allot him. Otherwise, I'm going to tell you this, sir, we'll be voting you out of the ball game.. voting them in. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I think the next meeting is more acceptable to us and I think there is time for them to... Mayor Ferro; Could you do that? You're not going to be doing any design work, Mr.. Meredith: Mr, Mayor, there is absolutely no way I can prepare a proposal involving $3,000,000 in a couple of weeks, Mayor I 'erre; Nobody is going to ask you to do that, Mr, Meredith; Now I think it is very important from the point of view of sere- 1nj the best needs of the public that we be allowed to use our expertise to show how, some variations of how that property might be developed. I think it is ire your interest to know. 7o MAY 221975 ►ti Mayor Perre: bet ilie put it to you this way, rill flit sayi i'gi acid tin bet :,frt i kiifg for the city, that we recoghite their legal claim. They have a elatm cihd they're ih court. Our Law fide atthefit says ditierehti'y. NOW they've got a claim,we're not tecogniting their claim but before we get into a big legal hassle about all of this 1 think it would be proper to try to get ihto thus ih the best' interest of all, mainly the trity is try to work titst some kilted of a compromise, No0i4 I would like tb tyharge the Mat,agtyt to do that ih the next two and a half; three Meeks, t'Th hot est= 1,eetitir4 for you to come back here with stab fancy proposal. tin trying to work out a compromise to keep both of you ih the picture, If you cahl t Tinos Otherwise thou that quest of will have to come up before this conms tni:;utun dune '5th and this cOMMittiOh Will hatre to vote what it 'wants to do, Mr. iohhseh Weill we were asked to hold off our lawsuit until we could get to the point of presehting something We could negotiate oh and new we're bring asked` to wait until everybody else ih the world care come in and talk about it. Mayor. ferret Lester, you go ahead and put on your lawsuit if you think that's in your best interest. I'm telling you what I think this domn1s� f;ion is going to do. What it is not going to do is make this decision today as I read it. Is June 5th reasonable, Mr. Andrews? Mr, Andrews: Yes, I think the approach is reasonable, I don know the parties aro willing to meet and try to resolve some. I can't do it with tho two parties separated; it has to be done together if there is going to be an area of resolving this. Mayor Verret can be happy. Mr. Meredith: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Johnson: Mayor Ferre: Lester, I think there is enough room in there where everybody. I would recommend that you try to work it out that way. 1 would like to make this comment for the record. Well wait a moment cause we're now repeating ourselves. I'm not prepared to comment on that, Mayor. All right. Mr. Meredith: I would like to comment only that I have not been making plans in the last several months to propose something that takes over Merrill Stevens' property and I was deeply shocked to learn that they were doing it to us. However, in the interest of all of us I am prepared to sit down with them whatever... Mayor Ferre: Well, it isn't your property or theirs, it belongs to the people of Miami. Mr. Meredith: No, it isn't. It belongs to the people of Miami. We have the responsibility of operating it, that's all. Thank you. Mayor eerre: All right, Mr. Andrews, is that acceptable to you? Mr. Andrews: Yes. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me make sure I understand. The commission is now directing both parties to sit down with Mr. Andrews. We aren't asking them if they want to do it we're directing them. Otherwise you come back here at a disadvantage. That's a motion. The motion is that we ask both parties to sit down with Mr. Andrews. Now what you get after that is our business not yours'. Mr. Plummer: Let me just, tell you my thoughts and I'm trying to figure out whether I agree or disagree -with -you. I think these people have the right, to make a presentation. Now whether or not they choose to make it before this commission first or whether they sit down and negotiate with the Manager first I think really is their prerogative, Mayer Perri): You see Father Gibson's point is different and I agree with 'either Gibson in this one. And that is that we ought to get on with this thing and the way to get on with it is to direct these two groups to meet with the Manager and hopefully work out a compromise that they can come with as a united front here on June 5th, If on June 5th we have no unity of purpose here then this commission is goig to have to make a hard decision to choose one or the other and I've already expressed my opinion on that, 7 MAY 2 21975 1 ttiheur with the tnahager oh big gta teeth but hopefully t'e 'tat .arrive at tants, t hinc that will ilva rair and amiab1t and t would titpaet for you to #o tb theta mtetimit wlth that attitude and f thihk it it iimportaht that you do. t alto hubheribt to uhat Pathtr di.bst it Laid abort your attitude, bkl thrtupoh the preerding thottoh, it troduced by Iteiferthd Gibeon, ae tidad by At. Plummet vat pasted and adopted ttf►attfT►rus1y. $19,000 LITTLE RIVER SUMMER snet Al SERVICES FEDERAL REVENUE YEAR END ENCUMBRANCE�`A AN SQUARE PROJECT 3i SHARING FUNDS MARTIN LUTHER KING 1 "LVD,DEVELOPMENT CORP' AUTR MGR i TO CONTRACT FOR OPERATION OF MLK fLVD I AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED. AN EMERGENCY ORb/NANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO, 8305, AS AMENDED, PASSED AND ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 27, 1974, $Y REbUCtNG THE ?UNbING FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS FROM SOCIAL S1✓RVICES FOR PENSION 1UNb PROM $19,00o TO $0 AND UTILIZING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF SUCH REDUCTION, $19,000, TO ESTABLISH FUNDING FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS FOR SOCIAL SERVICES FOR EDISON LITTLE RIVER SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,0001 PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEAL-- ING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HERE- WITH. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYXS: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon' Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and noconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8406. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. NOTE: For ordinance No. 8405 see page 77.(A). MAY 221975 31AD, EDERAL �EVEN1±6 . Sigg#OEND 0�LITTLE gRiVElEt ��%t����NsS��A�Es'�q�1���T SHARING l�NDS M��TI� NU����MK�iNffCBLViS� DEVELOPMENT �ORP, #L1�L H�M�G�Ri TO CONTRACT FOR 'OPERATION OF"iL AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. B O S , AS AMENDtD, PASSED AND ADOPTED ON SEPTET ER 27, 19 7 4 s EY REDUCING THE FUNDING FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS pRam SOCIAL SERVICES FOR PENSION FUND FROM $19,000 TO $0 AND UTILIZING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF SUCH REDUCTION, $19,000, TO ESTABLISH FUNDING FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS FOR SOCIAL ,SERVICES FOR EDISON LITTLE RIVER SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,000; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERARIDITY CLAUSE, REPt LING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH. Wa Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commis sioner Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. •,whereupon the commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Rev. Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8406. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. 77(A) ,AN ORO /Wet t Mt I TtPt b,,, AN EMtRGtMCY ORblMANCt RtbUC1NG THt; 1873 74 YtsAR ERb DICUMbRR11NCtJ TO tHR At !LiCAM SQUARE PARR PROJtCT AS i STAbLr 11 b RV ORbtMANCt NO, 82S1 SY THt 'SUM t"iR $28. 0 ANO Rtri'URNiN6 SAib SUM TO !t#R Gtt3EtALPUNT.) RALrANCtt PtAL1Nd ALL OtbiNAMCt S, tOtiz, st;C 1Ot4S Oh PARTS 'it#ORt OP IN COMP ICP; CONTAINTMG A StVthAbILtTY t?ROVtStCN WAS introduced by Commissioner Pl ► Mer and seconded by Commies for adoption As ab emergency measure and dispensihq with the requirement of reading same Oh two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYM S: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore .Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Perre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer,'Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8407. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-497 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT WITH THE 62ND STREET COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC., FOR SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AFRICAN SQUARE PROJECT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) tipon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 78 MAY221975 PERSONAL ONAL APPEARANCE GARRETT SLOANE MIAltmLDADE 4AT4 & 1WR A'ut l $112,000 PAVM iT TO CITE' POR PROPERTY NE'DEb 8Y STATE ROAD DEPT, PCP A RtG TmO i4AY 14t. ratt,.tt Si .yrr Mr. Mayor and cvornmihhiotiers, Pm trying tb stretch my 111':3t htitretui ly NIA this roaring on he f,rehehtatiot5 tin at entirely different m:ti trtr, W' hntn hurt with ue t:hclay ''girt, Mr.0 hey anti .fim Albert who are Mole, tit-tt rrUt authn-ity.. We had earlier Mr, cami'slel1 who has left. tie have Eros, mid as 3.t were left two- fr irtr the three party at ree tft tiititu§gioris. tt all goer; back 10 years ago ih 1945 the Water afd Sewer board of the City a Miami tsurtthaeed three sectiehe of land that are shewh there Atm that trap Which are west of Snapper creek. They paid $9.00 an acre. l4tswet et the land has a teVertcr and that is if it is riot used for public water supply purposes it goes bark try the State of Florida = it i.s ah I. I. hoard reverter. During 19,1 the bepartment of Transportation of the State of plorida cohdet-ir ed some 5O acres along the eastern boundary where you see the blue line. The blue line is a diurik Plorida Turnpike that passes right along one liheat toile 350 feet wide, 50 acres is involved. They appraised the property for $157,400 or $1700 an acre. A little later we were not satisfied with that appraisal so we had ah appraisal trade and the Southeastern Appraisal Company table up With $224,850 or $4500 an acre. We proceded to try to negotiate for receiving the money for that land and we asked in 1972 for release of a reverter with the fttate no that there wouldn't be any question of title to the property because the reverter is a very critical item - the reverter being that if the land isn't used trrr Water supply purposes it goes back to the state and we were very fear- ful that the whole three square miles might be affected. We proceded further oh with the state and found that in order for the I.R. Board to release the reverter they wanted 11 of the amount of the appraisal or the wanted $112,500 leaving the other half of $112,500 as a potential payment to the City of Miami of to us, whoever they were going to pay for the property. Mr. Plummer: Garrett, how much are you going to pay Mr. Sloan: Well first of all, it isn't a matter of anybody paying us except the Department of Transportation paying somebody approximately $112,000 at some future date.' Our authority members at the time of the signing of the negotiating with Mr. Andrews prior to the signing of the three party agreement, and by the way, all of the land all of the three square miles title is trans- ferred to the authority by the three party agreement but it was agreed that who gets the $112,000 would be decided by you at a future time and this is the future time. Mr. Plummer: We've just decided. I've decided this commission decided its policy is that that $112,000 that that is the price shall be paid the City of Miami. Mayor Ferre: We need Mr. Plummer: We gave you $400,000,000 in realestate, what else do you want? Mr. Sloan: Well, we're giving you 5.3 million... Mr. Plummer: You ain't giving us nothing. Mr. Sloan: I held the check in my hand about a week ago. get t. you to take it. we're trying to Mr. Plummer: The policy of this commission is the $112,000 comes to this city where it rightfully belongs. Mr. Andrewn: Well, if you're going to take that motion that was going, to be my recommendation. Mayor I errs: o you want to add, anything to Mr, Sloan No. I should say there was a certain strong sentimental feeling of the authority members that since this three square miles is future water supply of the northern part of Dade County and we're now in a water tight sit- uation and they had the foresight to buy the three square miles when they could buy it it took a lot of trips to Tallahassee to get it,,. Mayor Ferre: think you were representing the City of Miami in those days weren't you? Mt. Moan: at, 'etttai ly. y�.�,� ;a y g p y�yp r�� p Mt-2 Atdr tl Mi. Mayor .at matbbrs of the ` ommitttht j tste5e Th 'Mti gloa t it should be pdihteci out the i4attr board itt 104 or 1g48 tame to the City 01 Miami asktM tht n to adopt a teat iutiett to autherite them to lb purthal e that atitl it mat pttrehated ih the bate of the City tt Miami through the Water Authority and i p-oihted taut to the beard at the time when thus at ked ma that l wan really reaching at to the City's tights and respbntibi1ities IA that ,artla. The Watt r heard at that time spent about $##bb ih round figures to acquire all ot that property and I said this was City of Miami money that hoy were spending. Mayor} Porte: Let me express it even stronger than that, Garrett. I had for.. gotten about that piece of property.. I had forgotten about that piece of prop- erty and l went to the Manager about two or three months ago before we had finished the Tri=party agreement when 1 heard about it and 1 said Paul# that dots hot include the three sections of land in west bade County. That belongs to the city and we're not about to give that up, the city has always given up everything. We're not going to give that pice of property up. Paul said# "it's tors late., that's part of the agreement." 1 said well you get us out of it because that's got nothing to do with the Water and Sewage operation right now and i'h.id ah argument with him about it. Let me tell you something. If all we t:.itt get i::i $10 just as a matter of principal I'm for getting that. Mr. Sloan: Well, if it's any consolation the reverter on all of that land, if you don't use it for water supply purposes it can't be used for anything else and we are, of course, proceding to develop it now for that purpose. Mayor Ferre: We need $112,000 worse than you do. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 75-498 A MOTION OF POLICY THAT A CERTAIN PIECE OF PROPERTY NEEDED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR RIGHT OF WAY PURPOSES ANI) BOUNDED BY N.W. 117 AVENUE, 90 STREET, N.W. 74 STREET BE TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE UPON RECEIPT OF PAYMENT OF $112,500 I3Y THE CITY OF MIAMI. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, sand adopted by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso. the motion was passed and Mayor Ferre. 33. VETERA"JS OF,FOREIGN WARS REQUEST TO PLACE COMMERATIVE PLAQUE IN BAYFRONT/BICENTENNIAL PARK DISCUS. QN Mayor Ferre: We're now on Item #17 and #18. Mr. Pedro Juan Llopez: Mr. Mayor, my name is Pedro Juan Llopez. I reside at 701 S.W. 2 Avenue, Miami, Florida. In behalf of all Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States and in particular Cuban -American Veterans of members of Pone Joan Marti #10212. At this moment I would like to present to the commis- sion some of the members of the post. Mayor I"erre; We welcome you here this afternoon, I` understand that you want to place a plaque which you already have in Bi-Centennial Park and you want an appropriate place for it to be erected. Is that correct? Mr. Llopez; Ye;), sir, Mayor Ferro: All right, Then 1 think this is a matter of the Manager and the administration, Have you chosen a place? Mr, Andrews; Well, the consulting architect has designated a place in Bay Front Park, Remember when we talked about monuments in Bi-Centennial Park and Bay Front Park? Ah area has Veen laid out_ specifically. s z Mayrst ferret We don't want to wait S y*eats, Paul. is there a place that thy can put their Vet cans of foreign War mono net t up how? Mt, AndrfWH: tit+, t: n locate ah area within ih that cbttpatible with this plan. Mt. hustey Pant in: t' t Lesley Martin, the 'resit1eht of the Hispanic -American t'tamm tt vw ter Third ettt ury 11. S, A. which is a ,.i-Cehtenr,ial otgahi.atieh fbt tt,itte+ County. one tyt the ptto je_ctti that has been sponsored by out committee acid a ipt tAtte i,y Third Century is the Cuban freedom Memorial Complex, t t;uggest that this _plaque be part or that complex, This is a cbinple : that will be'funded by private subscription, Mayor ferret What are you recommending, it fardens Park? for 13i-Centennial or the Metro Mr, Dentin: Weil, t was recommending that this project be integrated Cohan Freedom Memorial Complex. Mr. Plummer: Which is going to be where? Mr. Pantin: Which is going to be in land that hopefully be donated by the of Miami in that park. Mayor Ferro: Where? Mrs. Gordon: tic's saying according to the plan Mr. Andrews said. Mr 'Panties That's the piece of land that Manager Andrews has just mentioned. Mayor Verret All right, fine.' Mr. Pantin: In other words, what we would like to see as part of our project and integrated into something that really is worthwhile and the purpose would be to haw' a suitable setting to accomodate the different plaques and monuments, etc. of the individual groups such as the Veterans of Foreign Wars, The Bay of Pigs and Cubans that died escaping their country and others of similar nature. And to avoid a multitude.of little monuments and things _that would be less obvious and really would make it look rather like a cemetery. Mayor Ferre: I agree with that. Mr. Pantin: And we believe that with an integration of effort we can have an integrated memorial which would have much more importance and more beauty archi tocturally. There is already a fund raising group headed by Mr. Emilio Milian s►.itionWQBA that is working on a fund raising activities. And furthermore, it is contemplated to have an international competition to arrive at the design of thy, memorial and I'm sure it could be worked out with them so that they would be r..atisfied with whatever they have in mind. Mayor Terre: All: right, in the interest of time, Maria Elena, do you agree with this? And Don Luis, this is Maria Elena Torano, Don Luis Sabinez, Presi- dent of the Latin Chamber of Commerce they're here speaking on that behalf. Is that agreed then? Will you incorporate that in your motion? Mr. Plummer.: I've got to ask a question because it bothers me. Sir, what this complex you're contemplating without getting commission approval? . Pantin: We haven't gotten commission approval yet but this is a project... Mr. Plummer: What bothers me is you've started to raise funds for something that yet has been approved. Mr. Pantin; No, we haven't, We haven't started to raise funds yet but we are organizing to raise funds. We're organizing to raise funds for a Cuban Freedom Memorial Complex. Now where it is to be located, — Mayor VI,rre: May I speak through so I can clarify? Now the gentleman from the Veterans of Foreign Wars has a plaque which they wish to place in Bi-Centennial Park or Bay front Park that is one thing. There are other moves afoot to raise pr(vats, funds for an important: monument dealing with the Cuban freedom fighters (1) and (2) dealing with to commemorate the refugees and the flight from commun"' i st.. Cuba into freedom. Now that is under way, What they are recominendin9 is that rill of this bt put itt b;e area so that rather than have a little thobiitlieht anti it 1 itt:tr fatal here and a little sotrnethit g somtswhere else to make it lt3bk like a eetllotery,Whi eh 1 know some of us like, last to that they cab ba plaoedl they havo t,ot decided and we have hot decided where it is to be. Ali we're doing h+'tt i9 r.tomMenditg to the Mahager for his purtual to cote back with a :apetritic tot:emmehrlatiot as to whete this should be and bring it to thin ebMMISOibhIS :1t. nntititt an noon as you 'have it toady. Mt. Andtr.'wtst You havh brio finorO matter, Mr. Mayot. You have a McMOrial Com-, ttri t.1 ee 4ppoththd who advises the t btnmission bh the location of suth Thertortala pits that:, 1't'n w.i 11ihq to do that but 1 don't Want to be running a cohfliet With what thoy'ro Charged with to do it advising the ctitttmission. Mayor Porte! .They don't want 13th street, Mt. Plummet; Mr. Mayor, look, t'm not opposed to this thing. The only thing I'm saying is the gentleman is talking about a coMpleX. One person is talking about. a monument. Now nobody knows better than # how big a monument is. Now 1 don't know how big a complex is. A complex can be 50 X 50; it can be half a city block. You know and I think this commission should be well aware when you're using city property of what it is going to be used for. Mr. Pantin: We're not using it yet. Mr. Plummer: Well, but that's the point. See, I misunderstood you when you said; I thought you to say that money was already being raised for the project. Now if in fact people are donating money there must be some concept and this commission to the best of my knowledge has not been made aware of what this con- cept is. Mru. Gordon: Are you opposing what we were proposing? There is a motion on the table to allow them to put this plaque. Is there an opposition to that? Mr. Plummer: No, I agree with his concept to coordinate, I agree with that. Mr. Pantin: Coordinate that with the plans of the Bi-Centennial Committee. Mr. Plummer; But hos big is this complex going to be? Mr. Pantin: Not too big Ms. Maria Elena Torano: What happened is Raul Alvarez who was doing some stud- ies on Watson Island; there is a little plot there that let's say belongs to the Cuban, honoring... Mr. Plummer: Each country. Right M::. Torano: Right. There was also Emilio Milian who is news director for QBA sometime ago came up with the idea of the empty raft of those Cubans that crossed they straits and died. We were trying now that these people are coming up with such ., worthy idea of having something in Bi-Centennial Park to join forces and not,have something in Watson Island and something is Bi-Centennial Park but some- thing that is representative of what the Cubans have done in their search for democracy. Mr. PluMmert Maria Elena, "I have no qualms about it. The only thing I'm saying in that when we go with something like this I think this commission should be made aware of how much space it is going to take, where it is going to go, what Lhe amount is involved and I whole-heartedly concur and I just asked the Mayor as 1 recall, and I'm not saying yes or no, that when we allowed the Bay of Pigs monument to go on S.W. 8th Street that the remaining portion of that island was set aside for monuments. Ms. Torino; Right, but we don't want it there. Park. Mr. Plummer.; Now you're talking from Watson Island to Bi-Centennial to S.W. 8th Street. So that's why I'm saying... Mr!;. Gordon; And also Bay Front Park because if I looked at that map just now that', where the monument section is designated, Bayfront Park, you can call it whatevor you want but it is Bay Front Park, There is a section; it's not our plan, it was the consultant's plan.., l�ntt't you khoid where the doer; Matti state JO Might tr th t Mrh Oetdotti Tht fro tsuitaht developed a plan and i thii k maybe you ought to tithi s)i averybt dy with that piahl Mr. Ahdrews. so they would khow What the pl ah is Pt, Midi -two i didn't khow what they were proposing, This is the first t f'v+� heard or this, They were making a ptusthtatit1 tb the etaMitaibri4 Mts. Gordon.:Thu don't Want a haphazard kind bf development you Want a t < ovelopmeht aiiri therefore you should have a total concept given to you. Mai. 'f'otanoi ilk, should we come back to you with maybe a sketch or something 'Of Whdt we Wants? tNAtibfhLt:, BVP.RYBObY SP AXING AT 'ONCt. Mrs. c,'o 'don: Pirst, they should be furnished with a plan that was approved by the Commission. They should know exactly what areas were set aside for what and then they should fit what they want to do into that area. Mr. Andrews: t would hope, of course, it is too late now. I wish they would have discussed their plans with me first and I could have coordinated some of this because what was placed on this agenda was something that started out to be very simple and we thought we had a solution to it when we presented this plan to show where the monuments were going to be located in Bay Front Park but what was presented is much greater than that. Mayor Ferro: Mr. Andrews, as I see it it is a relatively simple situation. The Cuban community in Miami want to at their own expense create a monument or a mon- ument area for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Freedom Fighters, etc. and they would like it in a significant place either in Bay Front Park or in Bi-Centennial Park whichever is the most appropriate. Now the thing to do as I see it is (1) to ask the memorial committee which we have to comment and give their opinion which is the r.i.ght way to go about this and secondly to ask the administration after this commission votes on it to work with them and come back with a specific agreed recommendation where then the commission can take an official position as to exactly where this is going to be. Mrs. Gordon: You've never seen the plan that the architects, then they should have had that then. Mr. Plummer: Have you? I haven't. Mrs. Gordon: Mayor Fcrre: Mr. Gordon: Bay Front Park. Mayor Ferro: Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about 13. Mr. Plummer: No, have you seen a plan? Mayor F'erre: Why you've seen it. Sure we've seen it. I have. Well, I've never even heard of it much less seen it. Mr. Plummer: Oh for the development but I mean what these people are talk- ing ." Mrs. Gordon: No. Mayor Ferre; You see, that's what happens - this is a good point - a lot of times our problem in this commission and in government in general is that we' end up singing from different hymn books. Nowwhen there were talks about Plans Plummer thought plans for the Cuban Memorial. Rose was the only one that was correct, she was thinking about the plan that the architect made and I thought you were talking about the plan on 13th Avenue. So here were three people, and I don't know about Father, but here were three people that expressed themselves about plans and we were each talking about a different set of plans, Now will you then make a motion that will,,. Mr, Plummer; A motion to incorporate it all to unify it to make it a beauti- ful thing that all people can be proud of, I'll make such a motion, MAY 221975 Mtn, t'rr5rttOh: 7iut:. are you Withdtaaiing out pre iOtt fotioh 'whioh wa" tht request uest_ -or thin grbupY Mt, P1UMMett did. Mt . ','otdeht. Wait, maybe they dot, t Waht it withdrawn. Mt. Pahtiti3 Mr, Mayot, although We like vt-y much the noble plan they have Mid we'd i ikt! to it:corporate to them but we would 'Ake to do it oh the tiai;ie that oh 't hi to park there would be several tttonutttents for several different purposes. inot her words we don't think that the Veterans of Foreign Wars should be to* tt�,i_ stir ti, the Nettie Tohuttteht with the Cubahs although it is the satfte cause and the t4atttt± purpose came from Cuba oh a life raft. t t r_rte t We understand Mr:;. t;ordoh: 1)n you waht us tb withdraw the ration we just made/ Mr. Pantih: What was the motion? Mr:,. Gordon: Mrs Plummer made a motion to permit you to put your plaque in the Bay front Park area designated Metttorial park. That was the motion, l seconder it.. If you wish this removed from the table tell us and we'll remove it. Pantin: But is the part where... Mrr;. Gordon: Will you hold up that map you just showed me, Mayor Ferre: That has nothing to do with what they're recommending. Mrs. Gordon: No, not really unless they further the development of this section. 2t is a large area of land. Show them where it is exactly. Mn. Torano: Mr., Llopez, I just want to say that whatever we come up with will enhance the your monument that you're talking about. Rather than just a simple plaque which it; what you're asking for... Mr. rant i.n: Excuse me, we originally stated as a plaque but it may be a monu- ment. 7.t depends on the size of land that we get. Ms. Torano: All right, do you mind working together with us or rather us work- ing together with you to really make something significant and meaningful that all of us Cubans can be proud of? Mr. Pantin: Well, we like that. The idea is wonderful I would say but again if our monument is going to be incorporated to one monument celebrating all the Cubans I don't think we'd like to do it. But if it is going to be in this park and there will be several monuments for Cubans independently each of them expressing the kind then we will go ahead and do it. Mn. Torano: Let me say this, there is going to be a meeting next week of all of un and we want you there. And after that we can really coordinate and get together and talk and come back here. Mr. Pantin: And present it to the Mayor f'r:rre: As a unified thing. Mr. Pantin: I think it is pretty Mayor Ferro: Do you agree with that? Pantin: Yes. Plummer: That was my second motion. Mrs, Gordon; Alright, then you withdraw your first one, Mr. Plummer; I did it a long time ago. Mr. JQ:;r:ph J. Martouri; Mr, Mayor, I would like to be recognized, My name is :toseph J, Martouri and I'm the post's senior vice commander. All I ask this City Commission is that if this is approved as far as #18 on the agenda that we, the poet be notified where we can erect this monument and under what condit- ions. This is all we are asking. Now whether we combine our efforts with theirs tra titt i in noMeihittti that wt will have Meiycrt l`rit tttt You'll ll have to decide that and all Veire sayihcl hdW is with the Tcit_iots that l have recogtited since the .pte+tioi s -#ttbtibft was iaithdtawti is that you at parattly but together with theft discuss the possibilities of trying to r:rlhbihe aCh atea. that doesn't Teah that yoli''te all gbiht tb be in bhe t Mbar Atilt. You may have your monument, they may have a t ei atate, there might be thirty MohtiAttitt. I dbhi t kt iw5 Theh discuss Lhi.s with the atifihistratiOtt and with the Memorial Committee which We have especially for this purpose and once you've done that and they've done that and the Memorial Cotmittee has done it •and the administration has dope it you're going to come back to the city Cbm mission and we'll finally vote oh it. ok7 The following Motion was introduced by Corrissioher Plummer ► who movi'r.1 its adoptions MOTION NO. 75=499 A MOTION DEFERRING A REQUEST OF THE VETERANS Or FOREIGN WARS FOR PLACEMENT OF COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE IN BICENTENNIAL PARK AND REQUESTING THIS ORGANIZATION TO MEET WITH THE MEMORIAL COMMITTEE AND A COMMITTEE HEADED BY MARIA ELENA TORANO AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK OUT DETAILS OF POSSIBLE FUTURE PLACEMENT OF MEMORIALS IN THE BAYFRONT PARK/BICENTENNIAL PARK AREAS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner artd adopted by the following vote: AYi;5: Mrii. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson uo1•: ; : None. AI4 SF;NT: Commissioner Rehrso. Gordon, the motion was passed and Mayor Ferre. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, clan I make a suggestion? And thenyouall rip it apart. May I suggest that no further items of public appearance be put on an agenda until they first have been run by the Manager who at such time if He doesn't agree they have the right to still come on for personal appearance but at least he has the right to do a little background and research before we get up here, take up our time and the people's time and turn it over to him anyhow. Mayor Ferre: That's the sense of the commission, I think because otherwise... MULTI -CULTURAL FLOAT IN THE 1976 ORANGE BOWL PARADE me. e'lri'l elena meraeo! T ryitrFc chi G ll,l GtartPrt when T attpnrieri the lranaP howl Preview for the 1976 Di -Centennial Orange Bowl Parade and Mr.- Ray Goode :,eked vary candidly after he ` saw all the drawings of the floats if there was .; possibility of a Hispanic representation in the Orange Bowl' Parade. I want all of you to'be aware that the 15 years that I have been here that the Orange Howl pant parades haven't had any Latin representation or infouence whatsoever. Thu fifty members of the Orange Bowl Committee are all males, all white except Rob Simms.. Mr. Plummer; And J. Gather. Ms, Torano: Really? It says 98%. Plummer; J. Gather, he was the first one. Rev. Gibson; He lives here? Plummer; he lives in Tallahassee Rev. r; i burn; A.1l the other members, white live where? Mr. Plummer: k:xcept Bob Simms who lives here. Rev. c j t. ors ; Ail 1 want to make sure that we get the record straight now. You know man I'm sorry you told Me that because my temper is about to flare, We want to tt,11 the %s range Bowl Ccittthlttte that We Want; if your t t bif § th bO t6t any blat.ks honor these biaeks hete who help pay theme takes. t N4 Torero: 'There is no tatinn also, ttevetend and thete's no woMeh. Ail tight? Mtn,. not -do -hi roxy Holton has been saying that far years Ms, ¶Dart: 3 know, we Art pushing it the ' so next step we wrote a letter to lte"iy cioodef Mr. Sabinet teptese1iting the Latin Chamber and myself repteteht= Intl the i i tentennial + oThfl ittee asking that the county sponsor a Moat that had a hispanic theme. 1 sent a copy of this letter to ail the member§ of the Misr pah t hi-CentennialeoiP littee of which the Mayor is the honorary chairman and ht in turn tpeht a cover Mctho to Paul Andrews saying why the county should have thin llittpanic theme in its float and hot the City of Miami for the first time ouor with its 52% t atih Spanish speaking residents. I 'want tb tell you all that t.ht± county did approve that its float for 1976 has a Hispanic theme and iho first meeting of this committee, Advisory Committee for the Orange Boli31 t4 loot for the County formed by Louis sabinet ► : e.,.., ► Alicia Barra, the consulate of Spain whoever he is now and Mrs. :_,representing Columbia will meet next week to advise the county on hos the float should look.And it seems to me that the City of Miattii should be doing the same thing. After all this is I3i-Centennial year and it would be the first time ever that the Latins aro going to be represented in the Orange Bowl. My recommendation would be that one should be focusing in the past and the other one in Miami as the gate- way to the Americas and really more the Hispanic influence in one and the Latin influence in the other. Mayor Ferret I'm going to be very frank with you and you know I can tell it just like it is. Now I'm a Latin and I'm very proud of the Latin community here. Ok? But I think that we've got to be careful now that we don't over -do something and end up with some backlash. I'm telling it like itis. You know there are black people here too. They've never had a black float and if we have ono float then perhaps there are other minorities that want to be represented. Ms. Thrrino: Why not a multi -ethnic? Mayor Pt,rre: l would say that perhaps that that would be very much in the keep- ing of the American theme. You know Plummer, is a Conch from Key West. Mr. Plummer: No I'm not! Mayor Perre: I thought you were. Oh that' Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I have a good idea. Why don't we have the world of Miami on a float like we're going to have in the festival so we can get them all. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let's keep one thing in mind and I hate to be the one to remind you but you know Ernie Seiler operates - 'In God We Trust and All Others Pay Cash and let me tell you something. It is well and good but those floats if I'm not mistaken on a cost value are $27,000. Mayor Ferro: Have we ever had one of these things before? . Plummer: No, not a City of Miami. Mr. Andrews; We've made some small contributions like 10%... Mr. Plummer: I'm not speaking for or against. All I'm saying is we're speaking of $27,000 which appropriately should be addressed at Budget time. Mayor Perre; Well, that's the end of this discussion. What else you got? Mr. Plummer: Well no, wait a minute. Because you couldn't do it for this year anyhow. All the floats are designated for I think it is either two or three years in advance, Mayor Terre. We're talking about 76 for the Bi-Centennial year papa, that's what rihn'n talking about, Mr. I'Iummr.r; Well papa, there is no way that you could get it in there I don't bei.lava. 1Int Andrew t 1tt the a4fetttret t with t.ht1 city the =t range bowl O ittlhittee i►i ::1i'e,t3 tlit city with a ttoat. We take ,a stall 't ntribi t .ttt toWatds it. toc uited to tuthish pis a float Mt. ',Witmer: Well, there's the answer then it hot. W3 bi O. An. ' otaho: And theft is a City of Miathi float. Mayor Verret 1. think that your idea is excellent and flows that the county has dosighaf:titi its float as a Laths float I think that we should bh the theme that 't h i :s i s one iu ion out of many tacos attd many vultures and many different that ut rehgthett the whole thing that perhaps we ought to empha:;it.e that one irtdlud� i tui the Cuban and... Mts. Gordon: Mr. Mayor. may t take the suggestion that Mt. t,reid1tan's committee which represents all the cultures of Miami be included artd bri that float the World of Miami be the float? That would take ih all the peoples'all the natioh., alities and all the races and everybody. Ms `I•orano. What's fine. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I'm only going to caution all of you so you don't go away disappointed. Paul, you'd better call Ernie Seiler immediately because I Lan almost bet you money that all of those floats for this coming January are in production. Mti. Torano: Some of them are. Mayor Perrot I think what Maria Elena Torano is, asking is for us to pass a resolution expressing a sense of what we would like. Mr. Plummer: Fine, but can it be done? Mayor "Ferro: That's not what we're voting on. Mr. Lew Price: It is going to be done. Every year the city and the county bath put floats in the Orange Bowl. It's not new, they've been doing it all a.tong. Two years ago we had a Latin float which the county put in and we've put in a black float. We had the two Olympic stars on the black float. This was four floats we had that year, we didn't need anymore. So this year Marie and a few of us have already gotten together with the Orange Bowl Com- mittee and they are constructing plans and sketches for to submit to Mr. Good's committee next week to see if they want to make alterations or changes but it's already in the works. The City's float as Mr. Andrews told you is a contribution from the Orange Bowl because of a warehouse agreement you got. The city does not have to pay for their float. Mr. Plummer: But I mean as what goes on it. Mrs. Gordon: What's going to be on it? Mr. Price: Tell them what goes on it. Mr. Plummer:` Oh, we still have that option? Mayor Ferro: Let's move Ms. Torano: city. There there hasn't Mayor Ferre: there a motion? Wait a minute. I don't care what the Orange Bowl presents to the is no Latin representation there and I'm sorry. For fifteen years been any. so it is about time there is some. Mrs. Gordon; we don't know Maria, that is something else. Mr. Price, are you saying that they already have the plans and what it is and we can't even ask? Mayor Ferret _ No he didn't say that, yes you floor now which t will recognize, Mr. Plummer; A`motion that the City of Miami's float be made this year as a multi- ultural. float from the City of. Miami. 1111' tbi It wiftrj ttttion was intro 'iced by CoMMissione ttit v 'r1 i tti •adoption: MOTION N0. 75-.500 I~► MCi'1'1tiN 'i tl'ttliS;StN( THE bESlitt of THE C1TY Ct7MM1SSt0N 'Ti1?,T 'T1t1:. V1s0AT it1.P1tESENT1140 THE CITY oP MIAMI 1N THE 1976 01tANGE BOWL PAkAbE 1t 1'k1:gt tT A MUt.Tt-00LTUPAt THEME Mob bI11 CPING 'THIS MOT t0N TO ht StNT TO THE okANGt 13oWt, CC4AMMITTEE Upon beihy seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed an ul adopted by the tollowing vote. AYES: Mrs, Gordon, M. Plummer, keV. Gibson and, Mayor Jerre. N01f None. ABSENT: Mr. Rebbso. Ms. Torino: What t want to know is who is going to say yes, this priat e? bo you have a float advisory cornrnittee? Mr. Plumper: He is going to contact theta and tell them the express thin curnmiut3i.on. Mayor Perrot We've Ion. That'n it. Mr. Plummer: Paul, intent of already voted on it. This commission has expressed an opin- write them a letter and send her a copy of it. 35, INVESTIGATE FACTS DESIGNATION nF MIAMI AS SECOND OLDEST SUMMIT IN TRE UNITED STATES Mayor Ferro: We have with us today Mrs. Castanedo, affectionately known to many of as as Conchita Castanedo.She is a lady who distinguished herself and continues 10 distinguish herself; she distinguished herself in Cuba, she was a great leader of her party; she is a woman who writes continuously in the Diario Las Americas. I would like to recognize her because she came up and gave me a recommendation some time ago that we should really establish that Miami has been around for 440 years and she just gave to me a newspaper from the City of Las Angeles that says that Las Angeles was around in 1781. Well, if Las Angeles was around in 1781 then. Miami was around in 16 whenever it was thatall those cats came down here and built a fort. Now when was that and the point is perhaps weought to take that .into account. In other words the City of Miami was incorporated 75 years ago but there was a settlement here 400 years ago. Why shouldn't we put that Into our seal? So I'll recognize you. The following dialog, delivered in Spanish by Mrs. Concection wars translated by Mayor Ferre as follows: There are many other cities who are doing that now besides Los Angeles. c'aracau just celebrated their 400th anniversary. In the library there is a plaque which was placed there by the Historical Society which specifically :;tates that there was a fort built in Miami which was called Tequesta in the year 1567. The plaque says that Miami was actually inhabited in 1567. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews, how would we go about doing this? Would we send i.t to the Historical Society? Castanedo Mr. Andrews: Yes, I would think that you'd have to have the Historical Society to document that which we're bringing out here initially and once documented and accepted then if the commission wished looking at the seal right behind you as [ was watching it as you were saying this you could say "Settled 16 something, l nr:orpnrated 1896". MrF;. Castanedo; There is a document in the Archives of the Indies in S�revi1Ir• Spain where a letter was written dated 1567 from Miami, There was s fart end a mission at the mouth of the Miami River, And that that estab- 1inhmr'rrt at that port existed for many years, If in 1565 St, Augustine was mottled and therefore, was the first settlement in the United States and if Lwo years later from St, Augustine there was a settlement in Miami then we are an older settlement than Santa Fe who now claims to be the second settlement MAY 221975 its i ni n ctiuhtt y. Santa Pe was established ih the yeat 16b1, thOtOttits, MiaMi watt a yearsibotott. That uhfott hate1y Ttahy of the dedUMehta, br fbttuhattly AN the rage hay bit are hi* ih the Archives of the Indies and have hot been iitrttough y researched but that thin could be probably established as a 'hiatbticai i 4it t with Much mote detail aid clarity than it is at the time. That the rept+em sentitioh of the State of Calitorhia in the State Capitol it; a state of rather Ju tl o_ :�,. ,.., and since t lori.da was ar4 wally co1ottite'd previous to that time there should be due recognition of that fact that really been forthcomitig with the ektepti oh of at. Augustine and she recommends that We look ihto this ahc1 declare ourselves as the second settlement of the united States for the iti.. Getttrttttia1 year. tt was precisely since,Iuanito Peroseta took the grape to C iifa uthia which has bt tMe the great foundation for the fihe wines of California it war; precisely these same preists who brought the orange from Valencia to Spain .ihd eetablished orahge groves in Florida that today are the basis of part of our econottly and which precisely was what convinced Mr i;'iagier to come down hero Mayor Ferret We thank you very touch. Mr. Andrews: I'll go over the transcript or have one of my staff members go over the transcript and based on that we'll compose the information and trans- mit it to there. Mayor Ferree Alright, that they study this matter and come back With a The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 75-501 A MOTION REQUESTING THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUEST OF THE HISPANIC COM- MITTER TO RESEARCH FACTS REVEALED BY CONCHITA CONCECTION (;ASTANEDO WITH A VIEW TO HHAVItNG MIAMI DECLARED TO BE THE SECOND OLDEST SETTLEMENT IN THE UNITEDSTATES. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre and Mrs. Gordon. NOES: None, ABSENT: Mr. Reboso RESTAURANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHARTER CLUB 36, REFER BACK TO ON BISCAYNE BAY PLANNING DEPT. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 75-502 A MOTION GRANTING THE REQUEST OF BISCAYNE BAY DEVELOPMENT CORP. REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF RESTAURANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHARTER CLUB TO BE SENT BACK TO THE PLAN- NING DEPARTMENT FOR FURTHER STUDY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr, Plummer, Mrs, Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES. None.' AHSE4NT: Mr, Reboso Dfi`Wf�R6NtNP�R1F4PdEUD tf01tt1iM 0l S. MARINE CORPS "TOYS FAR TOTS" tMR I TMAg PARTY 'fir toliowing tol. ot, W. s i.nttoduced by 'CoMMissienet 1ui ittet, Who -t. i ,ititipt Inh MuiioN No. 75=503 A MO! M oN oPAN 1NG `t'Ht REQ1J S!I' oP THt U.S. MAR1Nt CORPS PO1t WAiVLR OP PtHTAL FSP oF 13AY>•,1toN ' PARK A`GbI 'ORIOM ON NOVtM 1t1:1t 8. 1975 AO b1CSMt3PR 21, 1975 POR CORPS ANN AL "TOYS FOR ' omS" ti11ttS1'MAS PARTY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: ReV. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. t'lutntner and Mayor Perre. NOM None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso. 38 PERSONAL APPEARANCE Mli t M IGUEL LLQRET CH 4I N LINK FENCE ENCROACHING ON CITY PROPERTY Mr. Miguel Lloret: My name is Miguel Lloret...encroachment on my property. I want to explain that when I bought the house I didn't know that my property was... Mr. Plummer: Why don't we hear from the Manager because that is where it is going to resolve itself down to. Mr. Manager, what is your recommendation? This man wants to buy the property and it is a matter over a fence. What do you recommend, sir? Mr. Andrews: I hadn't realized that he would have been interested in buying the property andthat is something I'd have to evaluate. But I want the com- mission to understand that if there is some reason that we should not be sold to him, this is public property, then the fence is to be removed. Mr. Plummer: Well he's going to have to understand that. If he can't buy It he knows it's not his. Mr. Lloret: No, I've removed it already. Mr. Andrews: There are some pertinces or some parts of the fence still left and some plantings in that Mr.Lloret: The plants were before I bought the house. Thereupon a motion to refer Item #23 to the City Manager for possible negotiation was introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded by Rev. Gibson and passed and adopted by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso. 39, CLAIM SETTLEMENT - HOWARD HADLEY EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS Mr, Lloyd: I think all fo the commissioners are aware of this through the memo that was sent regarding the settlement of the Howard Hadley versus City of Miami litigation in the amount of $70,000. The following reeolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO, 75-504 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI TO PAY TO HOWARD HADLEY AND HIS ATTORNEY, HARRY ZUCKERMAN, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION MM NW ,o ttAbILITV. 'Mt; stirs Or '$/b b0b►00 tt4 POLts Atib ° titMt Tt tPITTLtMENT OP Htt etMMM tOtt %LL St;t itt:S htilbtktb TO M CITY 'b ' MtAMI At &PtetAL COUNttLf iNCtbtt4S CbS 'S4 Pbtt MIN= t NT V5MAtN PROCEMANOS, titer'e fbllowa body of reaolsitioht omitted here and th tilt ih the mffite of the city clerk.) Open being seconded by COMMittioner Gibson the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -MS: Rev. 'Gibson, Mr. Plummer. Mrs. 'Gordon and Mayor Perre. NCt;S: None. ABSENT: Mr. lteboso. 40 Asa FOR NNEi POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING Mrs. Nora Swan: rirst of all l want to say that Mr. Treister had to leaVe and he felt very badly, some of the members of the committee couldn't wait. Since there has been a lack of communication between the Cultural Arts Advisory Com- mittee and the Commission 1 would like to take a few minutes to review the original recommendations of the committee and bring you up to date on the what the committee has been doing. The Cultural Arts Advisory Committee accepted the responsibility very seriously and a great deal of thought, work and investibat= ion has gone into the preparation of the recommendations. We have done a great deal of reaearach as to what is being done in public arts in other cities of the United States. We have weighed and considered every possible art form and style that would be suitable for the structure and purpose of the building always keeping aesthetic qualities and spacial relationships aforemost. On July 2, 1974 we sent the following recommendation to Mr. Andrews: After care- ful consideration the Cultural Arts Advisory Committee has unanimously approved the recommendation that the moneys designated for art for the new Police Head- quarters should be spent upon a major work of art namely a monumental piece of sculpture by a world renowned sculptor; recommeded Henry Moore, Jacques Lipshitz or their equal. This sculpture is to be placed in the area in front of the entr- ance. The reason for this recommendation is that (1) this is the first public building to be constructed under this ordinance in Miami and the, caliber of art used in this building will set the tone for all buildings that follow. Forthis reason the committee feels that a major work of art by a famous artist would be the wisest choice. (2) It will act as a major impetus rennovating the downtown area and will generate pride plus a sense of involvement. Miami would receive national as well as international publicity. (3) Such a work of art would act as a liaison between advanced art and the public. The main tourist attraction in New York City is the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Great art has always drawn business to a city. (4) It will be an investment not just an expenditure which will increase in value as time goes on. Great artists have always attracted national attention to the city in which their work was displayed and we now have the opportunity to add Miami to the list. Alexander called his sculpture a grand detest and Grand Rapids, Michigan created a furor at the feet of all his sculpture at the police headquarters in San Francisco. controversial lipstick sculpture... the sensational Picaso in Chicago; Henry Moore at the Lincoln Center, etc. etc. If we could acquire a Henry Moore for Miami this would be our first choice but he may be out of reach money -wise. Jacques Lip- shitz would probably be more in our financial range. Taking into considerat- ion the recommendation Mr. Bergstrom, we recommend that the sculpture should be abstract and non-objective and constructed of material highly resistant to vandal- ism. Since such a sculpture by a world famous artist would take most of the money alloted for art the balance of the art work could be commissioned very reasonably. The committee recommends that each hall facing the elevator on each floor approximately 8 by 17 should be decorated by relief panels of wood carv- ing by Haitian artists, In addition the committee recommends in the dining area a mural. The artist could be chosen through an open competition with sketches submitted and... Mayor Ferre; Wait a minute. J.L. through and then we can move on, Mrs. Swan; Would you like the to cut this down? Mayor Perre; Yes, because he is leaving in 4 minutes, Mrs, Swan; Alright, Well, l just; we had made that recommendation and then.,, Mayor Perrot Well, I think it is a very wise recommendation, Mth4 uwrmt We t4 .d hot het amj ttsp ftsrw t:t5 this ttt:omM ndatibrt until January Itifh, At that time i met ivi t , Mt. Ahdt-ttwm and Mr. Hays and Mr. Mndrtws i.t & tot -mad flit that after tvatttut tbnsidt,rati.hn ht would have to turf down the tet oMMendeti6ti tier tht prbptst 1 pied ei sculpture for tht polittt htadquarttrs. ft' MAS more in tavtsr .of the idea oi 'murals for this particular building. At a subsequent tenting whit:h was atttndtd by rtptesentatives from tilt Polito baperttrientt this arcliittets as well as mett nrs i5f the Cultural Arts Advisory Committot and Mr. Hays representing the City Manager it was decided... Mayor Ferro: Sxtuse me, Nora. It was decided what Mrs. Sway,: That we set up a ct:tnpetition for the murals and Mr. Panooast has_ the details Mayor ?erreNow let me stop you. With all due respects, Paul, that is the prerogative of the City of Miami Commission. That is as see it anyway a Patter of policy. Mr. Andrews: Mxcuse me, Mr. Mayor, it is not the prerogative of the commission unless you change the ordinance. You passed that responsibility on to me through the arts Committee. Mr. Plummer: That's correct. Mr. Andrews: And that's why'I put at the end of the memorandum thatI gave you - and I have no feelings about this, Mr. Mayor. If you want to change that... Mayor Ferre: No. I thought that this all was supposed to be approved by the commission. Mr. Andrews: No. Mayor Ferre: But it is not. Ok. I stand corrected. Now Nora, go ahead and, wind it up because Plummer has got to go. Mrs. Swan: Yes, since Mr. Plummer has to go I won't say anything else then except that I did want to say that the reactions to this competition has been overwhelming and its praise to the City of Miami' in taking this step to init- iate innovative and creative expression through major art work and Mr. Pancoast has the whole presentation. Mr. Lester Pancoast: I` think the important thing to be just as brief as I can is that this is a three part thing by understanding of the committee. It is the police headquarters involved, it is the architects involved because they know the building so well and it is the Art Committee which is responsi- ble for the recommendations to the Manager. We have recommended a competit- ion. The competition has been well responded to. The reason we had a compet- ition was that we had a very unusual problem and we can't just pick a famous artist and hope that he will grasp it. Mr. Plummer: Lester, my only problem is what is.. Let's just use it to see if I' can come to the gut. How much does the winning artist get? Mr. Pancoast: He gets a commission of $20,000 for the entire work and it is an extensive work... Mr. Plummer: Now what is the $25,365 for? . Pancoast: $25,000? I don't see where you see a 25... Mr. Plummer; $25,365.00, what is that for? Mr. Pancoast: Oh, that is the actual manufacture of the tiles that comprise the mural. You can see there are'1691 square feet of the stuff so we're not talking about something that somebody can cook in his kitchen. This is a manufacturing process that has to be done very very carefully and there are people who do it superbly. So it isn't a matter of having to have home made tiles by a email ceramist. Mayor Fevre: Lester, let me just eXpress a very quick opinion, There are, I am sure 10,000 public buildings in the United States out of which maybe most people might know a hundred outside of their immediate community, The ones that are well know are well known because they have something which makes them ah important piece of aft wbrk.. All right? NbWf you know b say tO, bb and tl, tbi5 or Si66, 600 it isn't a drop ih the bucket as you well know. Now thousand •dollar painting htrt .end there is to tend ,art buildingn that we have around tht couhtry and str rti►iiy f 1CIIMMt2nd that we think. 1 wr i d rather pieces that will be 'oh the cover of Time tnir atit:e ur* , you know rather than to have a whole seftee and mural and things. for us to proliferate, and a lot of Raney. but $1604060 for us to have 2106 and :a up with one of the 104000 t think that really 1 would hat one or two or three major of will be part of architect Of thousand dollar paintings Mr. Pancoast: I'm not against the kind of art that you're talking about and l don't want to be misinterpreted in that stance but we are dealing with this sptcifie Wilding with specific purposes with definite procestet that go on in it and around it and we've tailored this art to that purpose. The relation- ship of the art to the building is something we have not violated. We have quite a variety of things going on but you'll see they are all quite small compared to this major statement. The artist recommended to the City Manager three of them are local, one of them is out of town. They are all nationally recognized. Mayor Porte: Three local artists are nationally recognized? Mr. Pancoast: That's right. I was very nervous about this business of three different parties getting together to choose the artist that would go ahead and do a thing like this in a major building. It has worked fantastically. Mr. Plummer: What I don't understand, Lester... Mayor Terre: I've asked Nora a question. The question is does she agree with this. Does the Commission agree with this? Mrs. Swan: Well yes, the committee had agreed to this particular building to go ahead with the mural... INAUDIBLE Mr. Andrews: You embodied that in the ordinance when and gave me the authority. you adopted the ordinance Mr. Plummer: Paul, we gave you the right to designate art, not $20,000 commis- sions or prizes. Mr. Andrews: Now just a minute. There are two ordinances in operation here., One ordinance says that you will take 11% of the cost of the building and reserve it for art work. As a matter of fact for the police building that becaue in round figures nearly $100,000 or a little bit more. That was automatically set aside for art work. Mayor Ferre: That Mr. Andrews: That's law. Now the second thing is how do you spend that. Their recommendation was that they select four or five out of... Mr. Plummer: Whose recommendation? Mr. Andrews: The committee.- They recommended that we select four or five outstanding artists by selection... Mayor Ferre: I hope that they were recommended on quality and not geographical.. Mr. Pancoast: Absolutely. Mr. Plummer: Now who did they recommend to? Mr. Andrews: to? Who did the committee recommend They received proposals from how many artists altogether? Mr, Pancoast; I would say Mrs. Swan Yes, Andrewe , there were about 40. we are in the process of sending the recommendation in to M. Mr, Plummer; Nora, p ease, I'm not arguing on the art or the artist, I'm saying a 9 MAY 221975 that ,a dialled back precedebt it beitfl not approved at this table. Mow tm Cate what you're talking about, NC* Ater' set. Whet $20, bb bf pe plea' money it saying that is a bad policyl l don't you take $1b4, what it it, $164,0 t0 total, Mt. piurnett All tight, let's call it $100,ono for art work. tow, what t'm saying is 1 think that this commission is the elected body of the people et this City and when $1b6,660 of taxpayers' money is to be spent and not final approval is got before this COMMiabien on art work, mechanical or machinery or What have you I think ,a damned bad preeent is being set, tow this thing came up and l didn't know the first thing about it. Nobody had seen fit to tome before this commission and say; Mr. Mayor and tommissioners, here is what we propose and we handle the art work in the police building - no one, no bile at all. The first time heard about it, Lester was when Nora announced it at the beautification lunchoen. That was the first time I knew about it and the contest was closing I think two days after that, New I just can't eon= ceive any group, no one is designated that authority. Matter of fact, if you research it... Mr. Andrews: Yes theyhave, I'll read the ordinance to you. Mr. Plununert Paul, you can read ordinances to me until you're blue in the facel But you tell me that $20,000 or $51,000 of city dollars can be spent without this commission's approval then the ordinance is wrong. Mayor Ferret That's exactly what I brought out but you know we don't commun- icate around here. That's exactly what I said 20 minutes ago. You see, and the point is that I was corrected and Paul said you are wrong and he's going to tell; you the same thing - you are wrong. The ordinance specifically gives him that authority and if you and if you want to change the ordinance then you change the ordinance. Mr. AndreWs: And that is what I told you in the memorandum in reporting on this that the if the commission was not satisfied with these procedures then we should change the ordinance. Mayor Ferre: . Well anyway, whether you like it or you don't like it; or I -like it or I don't like it that's the way it is. Mr. Pancoast: We're into a process here that has worked and we'd like to share it with you. There is certainly no secrecy about it really at all. Mayor Ferre: Lester, you'd better get some good art there or you're going to have a big problem with me. I really mean it. Pancoast: Not only with you, Mr. Mayor, but a great many people. Mayor Ferro: Ok. How do we move on this thing next? Mrs. Swan: I think that definitely there should be more communication; that there has been a lack of that. You should be aware of it. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manger, would you please, we're now getting to the fine strokes in this thing. Would you please have a meeting at least twice a month, you or your designated representative with the architect and committee or the chairman and see if we can get this thing ironed out, worked out and would you report to the commission at least once a month until the selection process is through, Mr. Plummer; Well, let me tell you how I understand this. Ok? Everybody can interpret the way they want but this is no more as far as I'm concerned than the same authority we give the Manager to negotiate contracts. This gives him the right to select, it gives him the commission and everything, But for appro- priations of funds have got to be before this commission. Paul, there isn't a thing you do in that administrative office that you don't come here to this com- mission and say gentlemen, I recommend this, please appropriate the money, Mr. Andrews; Mr. Plummer; Yes, and you've done that. That's rightl You've appropriated the ;honey. j__.Plummer: Thaty4�s itight�. But what i aayi. g t:h you about mt doh tt�know 1� is going 6n1 It is hidicrout. that Vitt got 6 ear ailout it At 'a lutche it. Mayor Parra t Mat' part of tht problem that mme have because we ate really bninformod4 Mri Plummer: Nora, I apologise tb you; I pooltmite to nester; 1 apoltgite to Paul. I'M t tit1 atatiding oh a :principal that all Major expet}diturea ewe before this 60MMibbibh arid every rather manner that has river beet, done this ntafi runs to this eoMmittion and gets the approval. l think this should have been dote. At he will tell you and as the legal mat, will tell you the final authority rests right here. Mayor Perrot Ck► Jo. ► you made your point artd 1 think we all agre+ Now let's get oh with it. We're here, what do ve do next? Mr. Plummer: I don't think we have any choice, No, you have a choice now: Mr. mayor arid members of the coatis - Mayor Perre: I'll tell you one thing, Mr. Andrews, that I an: violently against is this commission setting itself as experts its art and choosing artists and deciding who gets what - that I don't want any part of and I don't think we should get into it. Because my sense of art maybe real whacky and I think we ought to get people who have a knowledge - that's what this committee is supposed to be about. And if the committees are committee let's fire them and get a goiid committee And if they are the right committee let's back them. Mrs. Swan: We're only in an advisory capacity so we all we can do is make a recommendation. Mayor Ferre: Well, I think your recommendations should be followed. The Manager doesn't have any sense of art and neither do I Mr. Pancoast: But the recommendations could very easily be reviewed so that everyone would understand what is going on. Mayor Ferre: That is perfectly all right and I would commend that you do that if for no other reason so that we have communications and so that we can approve a final concept of it all. What else is there to talk about today? Mr. Pancoast: I don't know whether you're going to approve the concept or whether you even have time to sit and hear each item of it. There is so much detail to it that it is difficult to... Mayor Ferre: Lester, I'm not going to stand here; I don't think the commis- sion should decide whether the cafeteria wall hangings should have $7,000 or $6,000 - that's your decisions as the architect. As long as you have the approval of the administration and as long as you have the concurrence of this advisory board which is what their purpose is - that is why they are alive is to do that. Now as long as you're in agreement, Mr. Andrews, I would per- sonally have no objections. Now, if you are in disagreement; if there is dis- agreement then I think this commission should be informed (1). (2) Before you make any final committments on any moneys I think Mr. Plummer is correct and I think that the Charter requires that you come up before here and tell us how you want to spend this money and we have to approve it. Mr. Andrews: All right then what I recommend is that we put this matter back on the agenda for June 5th because we can come with a positive recommendation by then as to what should be done. Mr. Pancoast: Mr. Mayor, there is one point here. We're on a very tight schedule with this art. We're terribly anxious that the process of install- ing it not slop over into the opening of the building, Mayor Ferre; See, and that is what worries me too, Lester because with all due respect to you architects, sometimes you guys are not always the best ones to decide what kind of art should go into a building I feel.` Just because of that; you're concerned about opening the building and about the time schedules and all of that and frankly you know if Leonardo Da Vinci and the great artists of the renaissance had had to paint their art work on a time schedule which many of them did but it created some serious problems you know,.. M paheflatitt The ;parallel tb a Modern polite station is a little strange perhaps but I think there is a very impt gtant point here that the polite 'will be concerned about toes Mayor Perrot You mean having artists out there painting while they're policing. Mr. Pantoast; Yee. these murals r etur in Vet-, busy places. 1 mean it isn't an idle thought here, Mayor Perrot I'm sure Dope Alexander felt the same way about the Cistne Chanel We'll ties you at the next meeting. 41 "911" TELEPHONE SYSTEM INSTALLATION - D ISCU $$ION Mr. Andrews; Mr. Mayor, there is one more absolutely critical matter would like to have Vice -Mayor Plummer here for. It is the 911. Mayor Ferret What is 911? Mr. Andrews 911 is the emergency telephone system that would be installed in Dade County. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, really what he is saying is this: Mr. Mayor, the Manager and I have been in consultation. As you know, I have served as your representative on the 911 committee and also from the Dade League. We are aware that certain things are not going the way that this commission policy was set forth. It is the recommendation of myself. I think I speak for the Manager and Mr. Demby and the chiefs also, Chief Hickman and Chief Watkins that the city go and start to implement its own plan for 911. That we under- stand that the City of Hialeah, the City of Coral Gables and the City of Miami Beach are going to do the same thing to implement their own answering services for 911. We are under a mandate, Mr. Mayor, to have some sort of plan in; it has been discussed with Mr. Whiggins in Tallahassee and at this time I would have to recommend to this commission that the City of Mlami.start looking in immediately to implementing a 911 for the best benefit as to people of this city. Mayor Ferre: Ben Demby, do you agree with that? All right, Chief, do you agree with that? How about the Police Department, Keith, do you agree with that? So everybody, and you're recommending it Mr. Manager? Mr. Andrews: Yes. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-505 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHERN BELL TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH COM- PANY WHICH WILL SPECIFY SUCH ACTIONS ON THE PART OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE TELEPHONE COMPANY WHICH MAY BE NEC- ESSARY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND ESTABLISHMENT OF A 911 SYSTEM FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT SAID SYSTEM TO THE DIVISION OF COM MUNICATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR APPROVAL; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPLY FOR AND ACCEPT ANY FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE -FOR -THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 911 SYSTEM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and file in the Office of the City Clerk.) on Upon being Seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following voter AYES; Mr, Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Mrs, Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES; None,. ABSENT; Mr, Reboso MAY221975 4 APP 1 NT CO I TTEE,AAIM I DE R •,BASEHALL FEDERATION • itatsITENNIAL teI: 8RATtO?4 The following matt ►t wan ittrod roved it adeptiot: ed by Coftmissime MOTION NO A MOTION APPOIN'I1NO PERSCRS TO THE WORLD AMATEUR BASEBALL PEDERATIO fi TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION, APPOINTED! WILD/AM PREIXAS EERNANbO RUic GAUSTO LAVfl to RfN FtASEf DR. DEMIE MANERI TIMOTHY SULLIVAN FREO SANTIAGO CARDS PASCUAL JULIO BLANCO RE RA TOM FERGUSON HYRAM GOMEZ TONY PEREZ Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso. (Three additional appointments will be made at the Gibson) 43. ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARDS - DISCUSSION next meeting by Commissioner Ancrews: The Con7i2sion as}ce?. that I tr., to !:avc an :..f:Trecncnt rawly for this meeting in relation to the scoreboard. The agreement was completed yesterday; I haven't even had time to review it. I know the commission will want to see it but we've made substantial progress, we're still going to com- plete the scoreboard according to the proposers by the Super Bowl game. We have a model here of the scoreboard which we would like to show you and we want to show you the plan or the graphic portion of the scoreboard that we had before you because there is a slight change once before. Will you bring that forth and just very quickly explain to the commission what this is all about. Also the fact that we'll end up with two scoreboards, this main scoreboard and one supplemental scoreboard. You'll recall that we thought we would have to have two supplemental scoreboards but what they have now engineered and worked with the engineers who have prepared the master improvement plan we will only need one additional scoreboard to the main scoreboard to have the whole system work so that everyone in the Orange Bowl will be able to see the game in prog- ress statistics. Now would you tell the commission what this is, the heights and so forth and also the relationship of the main stand to the top of the score- board and we'll hold the charts up so that they can follow it. Mr, Arnold Holt: Your Honor, I'm Arnold Holt with American Information. What we are trying to do here is work around the problem of your future upper deck. We had originally in our scoreboard proposed a scoreboard that was 55 feet high and would in no way be able to fit under the upper stands when they are com- pleted. So we have been spending this time working with the City Management to come up With a design that incorporates all the things that we had promised in our proposal and the things that we find necessary to achieve the advertising potential to finance the program. The top of the scoreboard is 61 feet above the playing field; the new stands will be 62 feet above the playing field the front of which will have a four foot facia upon which the lettering Miami Orange Bowl will then be placed until such time though it will be free stand- ing above the scoreboard. The bottom of the scoreboard is 41 feet below the 61 foot measurement so it is 20 feet off the ground. We do not know how many seats the architect is planning to put in underneath here so we have Just made a facsimile of the Beats, The scoreboard has a ground width from 90 feet to 100 7 betauee of the vetti+eie dimension that Was beet to that we oould still aohitve the advertieitg area alto the piaoemett of your 'epeak r ey Item which we undoretatd may possibly have to be itearporated its the aeare board instead of Standing abve the way it it tow, to we have letsgthened tht board and shortened it. ftev4 Gibson; You have letrgthersed the too Mr. Molt; 'Ito, from 90 to 100 feet. Mr. Andrews: May 1_ emphasize, trot interrupt hits, that what they're design itg here is the big speaker tower that we see that will disappear and those speakers that are itt there will be mounted inside of the sgoreboard so it is all one unit. Mr. Holt: At the other end we have the auxiliary scoreboard as Mr. Andrews said. oetweerr the two everybody in the stadium will be able to see at least the game in pragrese. What we are trying to do on the auxiliary scoreboard it is io feet high by 160 feet long - we are trying to repeat this design of the main scoreboard and also put in the Miami Orange Howl title because it helps identify the sponsors at that end as well as carrying over the theme here where we have it above the scoreboard. Mayor Ferret Where is the big design that you had on top that was going to be revolving? Mr. Holt: We have had to reduce that in size, the orange air ball on the... This area has been reduced because of the future stands when they come we don't have the space to put a large dolphin' or a large orange disc, something that can change... Mayor Ferre: Eventually there are going to be some stands on top of that. I think it is important that you have the ability to change the symbol. If it is a Dolphin game we can, put a Dolphin. If it is an Orange ball we re- verse it. Mr. Holt: That is right. If you do not want it up where the words Miami Orange Bowl is we have, in this 180 feet allowed space, we can pull our ad panels in and put a city emblem on one side and the different team emblems on the other, just the design element whichever way is preferable. Rev. Gibson: I didn't get... If it is a Dolphin game you could do what? Mayor Ferre: Yes, you see where it says Miami Orange Bowl there is a round orange. Now I think that ought to be flexible so that you can flip it and... Rev. Gibson: You mean that orange ought to be flexible? Oh, I thought you meant the name. Ok, we're together. That's alright with me. objection to that. I have no Mr. Holt: We are trying to keep the advertising as we had said before down to, we had mentioned two to four sponsors which is what we are planning to do on the main board. We are illustrating three areas. The lower area could possibly be divided between two sponsors. Then the other board where it says advertising we are planning two there but possibly they could be split again each one of them having two. The reason for this is if we end up with four on the main board they may want to have the opportunity of advertising at the opposite end and so if we had four here we would have to have four there. But hopefully we are trying to end up with three on the main board, and just two on the auxiliary board. Rev. Gibson Mr. Grimm, you're the head engineer for us, aren't you? Ok, let me ask you. You heard what he told us engineeringlyspeaking. Do you like that? Mr, Grimm: Yes, Rev, Gibson: That's all,,, I'm not an engineer, I deal with souls. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second to approve in concept, Is that what you need? Mr, Andrews; You don't even need that, Mr, Mayor, All I wanted to make sure was that you know the direction we, were taking, The agreement is drawn, I'm MAY''2l9l5 _ sue; goir to he reviewing it over this week end. tie'to =goi-tig to be ready enter tilt(' it but we will hot enter into it until you have Sett it and it will now fit oh the June Sth and we are r,ot giving they, authority but they Probably want to Move ahead oh certain aspects. APPA6Vt MANAGaRS • PRfPo I f1PL MENTATt N mEmpRANDuM ROWAN E 4 The following nation was introduced by COM moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 7S-SO7 stoner Gibson, who A MO ION APPROVING IN PAINC/PLE THE PINbINGS CONTAINS= IN THE CITY MANAGER'S MEMORANbtJM OP MAY 15, 1975 ?1 OPOSED IMPLEMENT- ING COUNTY OttbfNANCES t WOE COUNTY MASTER PLAN. ttpbn being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOBS: None, ASSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer. AS 45,' NEGOTIATE AGREEMENT EVALUATION OFSCITY `SSTRI-CULTURAL PROGRAM The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-508 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH AVELLO AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED, TO CONDUCT AN OUTSIDE EVALUATION OF THE CITY'S TRICULTURAL PROGRAM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, passed and adopted by the following vote AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer. 4i5, RESIDENCYD DREQUIREMENTS ADVISRS E OFLIY BRARY CONSTITUTE VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 75-509 A MOTION CONFIRMING THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CITY MANAGER INFORM- ING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY THAT THE PROPOSED DELETION OF RESID- ENCY AND GEOGRAPHICAL REQUIREMENTS AS IT AFFECTS THE CITY OF MIAMI REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI DADE COUNTY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD CONSTITUTES A BREACH OF THE AGREEMENT DATED NOVEMBER 1, 1971,,BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR THE TRANSFER OF LIBRARY FACILITIES. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote AYES Mrs, Cordon, Rev, Gibson and Mayor Ferre, NOES; None. ABSENT; Mr. Reboso and Mr, Plummer, 47. tEVl4GPMENT6EPT AREA UNDER i J AT 'BtSCAYNt BOULEVARD iF AS PROPOSE ► OFF STREET PMRX1NO FACILITY Tht following tea utibh was introduce by CC teissibtter bsowhe moved its adoption: RESOLUTION No, ' **►S18 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONCEPT Ot THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE Or tift AREA UNbE& t=3gS, tit EN ttSCAYNE bOULWARD AND M.E. 1st AVENUE, AS AN OPP ST REETt PARKING PACILITY., AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHER CITY AGENCIES TO ASSIST THE DEPARTMENT OP OPP STREET PARKING tN THE PREPARATION CO THt NECESSARY DOCU MEWS REQUIRED RY THE STATE OP ?L0 IbA DEPARTMENT OE TRANS- PORTATION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES* Mrs, Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre NOES: None ABSENT: Mr. Reboot) and Mr. Plummer. REQU T METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO INSTALL TRAFFIC DEVICES 48, FOR �� DAY TRIAL PERIOD. BAY RE1GRTS, RRTQMA MANORS ETC, The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-511 A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE DADE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO INSTALL PROPER TRAFFIC DEVICES IN THE VICINITY OF BAY HEIGHTS, NATOMA MANORS AND BAYSHORE DRIVE BETWEEN ALATKA STREET AND 17TH AVENUE FOR A SIXTY DAY TRIAL PERIOD. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer. 10 MAY 2 21975 149 DEFER ONSIDERATION OP LITTLE RIVER ZON1N6 STUDY Thb t01108411§ resolution UtS introduced by Commissioner Gibson *he: moved its adoptisn: RESOLUTION NO. 75»t12 A RESOLUTION DETERRING CONSIDERATION 'OP THE LITTLE RIVER BONING STUDY PENDING FURTHER CONSIDERATION EY THE PLAN*. ING DEPARTMENT, THE CONING CONSULTANTS TOR THE CITY OF MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN AND THE PROPERTY comeRs IN THE LITTLE RIVER AREA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Rev. GibSOnr Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None, ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer. TRAVEL EXPENSES TO WASHINGTON, D, Co 50, REIMBURSE NORA SWAN BI-CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION ACTIVITIES oolowing resolution was introduced by ^omraissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 75-513 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER' TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO REIMBURSE NORA SWANN FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES TO WASHINGTON, D.C. FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING FUNDS TO ASSIST IN BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION ACT- IVITIES IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN ADDITION TO OBTAINING FUNDS FROM THE ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer. 51, GRANT FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: NATURALIZATION CEREMONIES RESOLUTION NO. 75-514 A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM FOR NATURALIZATION CEREMONIES TO BE HELD ON JULY 4, 1975; SUBJECT TO ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY, (Here follows body of resolution, omitted file in the Officeof the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote AYES; Mrs, Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre, NOES: None. ABSENT; Mr, Reboso and Mr, Plummer, here and on MAY 221975 52 , D1S 'USs;t f( ITEM .HANGE DATE t 1 t EET PARKING AUUTHf)RITY JGET CQNSIDERATION Mr= Lloyd: One other thing. f thitilt Mr, Andrews wiehed, I think W6 mutt' chance the date t the budget Nearing oh the beparttneht of > f-ttreet Parking to dung 5th, Mr, Andrewat Vat, Mr. Ma Tort what to will have ie tti ,tune tth we'll have the ordinance on first reading atd then it will be a vertited and have the eeee,d residing an July lOth. key, Oiboont too you need a n t oti Mr. Lloyd: No, we're going to change the date in the reeo1.utibn ao presented t ie morning, Suet too as you will. know. ADJME.NT THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY ADJOURN I ON OAN MQTION, DULY MADE AND SECONDED, THE MEETING WAS ATTEST: " U. D. ,SOUTHERN ITY CLERK RALPH G. ONGIE ASSISTANT LITY CLERK MAURICE A FERRE MAYOR MI\Y 221975 11 12 13 14 15 16 COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION N0. 75-365 GRANTING PERMISSION, AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XVIII-1, SECTION 4(1) TO CONSTRUCT MAINTENANCE BUILDING. DECLARING SPECIFIC PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN AN AREA OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEGINNING AT BISCAYNE BAY AND N.E. 87TH STREET TO BE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS AS PER EXHIBITS ONE. TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AND SIX ATTACHED HERETO IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE NO. 8301 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREE- MENT MODIFYING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE BALTIMORE BASEBALL CLUB, INC. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE FIRM OF TOURCHE ROSS & CO. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION FOR $75,000.00 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE TO ALONSO BROTHERS TRASH SERVICE. DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFEND ANY SUIT BROUGHT FOR THE RECOVERY OF DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF SAID CLAIMS. PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI. ACCEPTING THE BID OF THE BREWER COMPANY OF FLORIDA, INC ACCEPTING THE BID OF A.J. HOUSE & SONS, INC. ACCEPTING THE BID OF AD-A-LITE ELECTRIC, INC. ACCEPTING BIDS RECEIVED FOR FURNISHING FERTILIZER FOR USE BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FROM 0.M. SCOTT & SONS, ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROENCA CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $134,031.75 ACCEPTING THE BID OF W.F. WYNNE CO. R-75-472 R-75-473 R-75-474 R-75-475 R-75-476 R-75-477 75-473 75-574 75-475 75-476 75-477 R-75-479 75-479 R-75-480 75-480 R-75-481 75-481 R-75-482 75-482 R-75-483 75-483 R-75-484 75-484 R-75-485 75-485 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 75-492 75-493 75-495 75-497 75-510 75-511 75-512 75-513 DOCUM N't IDENTIFICATION GRANTING A VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO, '6871, ARTICLE VII=1, SECTION 2 (1) 5 AND 7 URGING THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE TO AMEND SENATE BILL 321 TO EXCLUDE SUBMERGED LAND PREVIOUSLY CONVEYED BY THE STATE OR THE TRUSTEES TO EITHER PRIVATE OWNERS OF MUNICIPAL ENTITLES. URGING THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE TO SPECIFICALLY EX-- CLUDE BISCAYNE BAY FROM SENATE BILL 321: ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED SALAR SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A REVENUE SHARING CONTRACT WITH'THE 62ND STREET COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI TO PAY TO HOWARD HADLEY AND HIS ATTORNEY, WITH- OUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $70,000 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF HIS CLAIM FOR ALL SERVICES_. RENDERED TO, THE CITY OF MIAMI AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREE- MENT WITH SOUTHERN BELL TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH COMPANY. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH AVELLO AND ASSOCIATES,- INCOR- PORATED, TO CONDUCT AN OUTSIDE EVALUATION OF THE CITY'S TRICULTURAL PROGRAM. APPROVING THE CONCEPT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTE- NANCE OF THE AREA UNDER I-395, BETWEEN BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND N.E. 1ST AVENUE. REQUESTING THE DADE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTA- TION TO INSTALL PROPER TRAFFIC DEVICES IN THE VICINI- TY OF BAY HEIGHTS, AND BAYSHORE DRIVE. DEFERRINGCONSIDERATION OF THE LITTLE RIVER ZONING STUDY PENDING FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO REIMBURSE NORA SWANN FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES TO WASHINGTON D,C. GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM FOR NATURALIZATION CEREMONIES TO BE HELD ON JULY 4, 1975 COMMtSSi6N R-75-492 R-75-493 R-75-495 R-75-497 R-75-508 R-75-510 R-75-511 R-75-512 R-75-513 R-75-514