HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1975-04-10 MinutesCO.M MISSI.ON
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON APRIL 10, 1975
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
H, D, SOUTHERN
CITY CLERK
RALPH G, QNGIE.
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE- H.ROSEN,Mayor M. Beach
for presentation to Chief Don Hickman
CHANGE OF ZONING- COCONUT GROVE PHASE I
Public Hearing
PERSONAL APPEARANCE -WARREN FOX, F.P.S L.
SUBSTATION S.W. 16 and DIXIE HIGHWAY
AUTHORIZE LUMMUS ISLAND AS SITE FOR SPECIAL
13T-CENTENNIAL BOY SCOUT CAMP
VARIANCE REQUEST- BOUNDARIES S OF WOODLAWN
CEMC'I'\RY 3275 S.N. 16 STREET
CHANGE OF ZONING-N.W. 2 & 3 AVES and
N.W. 2 & 5 STREETS
CHANGE OF ZONING- MIAMI MUNICIPAL TRACT 41E
APPROVE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION NO. 5
F1.RE BOAT AND 240' SNORKEL (FIRE APPARATUS)
RE'I.CTTY MANAGER TO SUBMIT POSITION PAPER
GPANT APPROVAL OF `MITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN
PUBLIC PARK-2800 S.W. 22 AVENUE
EXTEND C'ONDITIONAL U:3E--99 SLIP MARINA
1901 BRICKELL AVFNUE
E::'I'ENSTON OF VARIANCE-MARCELLUS DEARBORN SUB
000 S.W. 17 AVENUE
INTERIM ZONING DISTRICT-MIAMI DADE GOVT.CNTR
EXTEND FOR 6 MONTHS
PROCLAMATIONS, PLAQUES, CERT . OF APPRECIATION
DISCUSSION -URGE LEGISLATURE AND APPROPRIATIOI
0tiMr.I1TTErS TO ADDRESS DEMANDS ON STATE
HUMAN SERVICE SYSTEM
ACCEPT COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION
SAN MARCO SANITARY SEWER IMP SR-5316-C
ACCEPT QUIT CLAIM DEED -PUBLIC UTILITY
EASEMENTS TRACT "A" - MOORE PARK
ACCEPT (HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY DEED
ADEMAR PARK
11�1D. SEC.39-20 (F) PROVTDE 10% GROSS RECPT.
FOR PROIESSIONAL SOCCER EVENTS
FED .GRANT APPLICATION- RECONSTRUCTION OF
RECREATIONAL FACIJ.ITIES FOR HANDICAPPED
AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS
KITCHEN CHANGES FOR 3 DAY CARE CENTERS
RATIFY ACTION OF CITY MAIJAGER
PURCHASE UNIFORMS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AIDES
FIRST READING
M-75-307
M-75-308
DISCUSSION
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FIRST READING
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DISCUSSION
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1-YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT
HARRY PEARLMAN
WAIVE RENTAL FEE-BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
NATURALIZATION COMMITTEE-U.S. DISTRICT COURT
AMUSEMENT RIDE PERMIT- GESU CHURCH
APPOINT MRS. MARTY GRAFTON
MIAMI MEMORIAL COMMITTEE
CLAIM SETTLEMENT - LEROY ALVIN DORSETT
CLAIM SETTLEMENT - EDGAR DIXON ETC.
DENY CERTAIN CLAIMS
ACCEPT BID - MISCELLANEOUS TREES
ACCEPT BID - SEVEN ROTARY MOWERS
ACCEPT BID - FIRE APPARATUS
ACCEPT BID - PARK BENCHES AND TABLES
ACCEPT BID - BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE II
ACCEPT BID - 3 YEAR INSURANCE POLICY
ACCEPT CHECK FROM TRAVELERS INS.CO.
COLLAPSE OF BLEACHERS -dinner key auditorium
PROPOSED C2-A ZONING DISTRICT -COCONUT GROVE
Appearance by Coconut Grove Ch.Commerce
PERSONAL APPEARANCE-CITY/COUNTY BIKE PATHS
PERSONAL APPEARANCE- JOHN HORAN
CEREBRAL PALSY FOUNDATION-PROP.SPECIAL PARK
SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES
CREATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES
POSSIBLE PURCHASE BY COUNTY OF CITY OWNED
PROPERTY AT 1145 N. W. 11 STREET FOR USE AS
JUVENILE REHHAI3ILITATION CENTER
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - RENE. COTERA
USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM BY
FEDERACION ATLETICA BASEBALL INVERNAL MIAMI
PROPOSED LOCATION OF VELODROME AND
DISCUSSION OF NEW BIKE PATHS FAULTS
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CITY��S�IOJ � MIANI) F�RIIIA
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE-HERI3ERT LEE SIMON
RE -CERTIFICATION OF 40 YEAR OLD BUILDINGS
ADD ADDITIONAL NAME TO 32ND ROAD TO DIXIE
"COPERNICUS PLAZA ROAD"
NAME BUILDING IN FLAGAMI: PARK
"ABE GOLDMAN BUILDING"
BRIEF DISCUSSION- BERTHING OF SEAPLANE
CONDEMNATION OF F.E.C. PROPERTY
BICENTENNIAL PARK AREA- MOTION TO ACQUIRE
5 PARCELS
ENTER INTO AGREEMENT-O'LEARY-SHAFER ASSOCIATE
LANDSCAPE DESIGN SERVICES- MINI PARK
46 WEST FLAGLER STREET
DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE
ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARD
PROPOSED ORDINANCE -CHAPTER 50
SHIPPING VESSELS AND DOCKS ETC.
BUS BENCH ADVERTISING CONTRACT
STOP SIGNS ON ALATKA,NOC-A-TEE & MICANOPY
IN COCONUT GROVE
URGE METRO TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION DEPT.
NOT TO SEND HEAVY TRAFFIC TIHROUGI1 RESIDENTIAL
AREAS TO ACCOMODATE BLUE DASH BUSES
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - VICKI DE ALBORNOZ
COLUMBIAN CULTURAL EXCHANGE PROGRAM
PERSONAL APPEARANCE - ARNOLD TUCKER U.OF M.
WAIVER OF FEES AT INTERSQUAD GAME,ORANGE BOWL
CORRECTING NAME -ORANGE BOWL CONSULTANTS
PERSONAL APPEARANCE-NORA SWAN, CHAIRPERSON
BI-CENTENNIAL COMMITTEE
CLAUGHTON ISLAND - MEMO OF AGREEMENT
ACCEPT PLAT - VERSAILLES PLAZA
POLICE ACADEMY DISCUSSION
R.CIAL REPRESENTATION ON LABOR FORCES
CONTRACTORS PERFORMING WORK ON CITY CONTRACTS
REQ,CITY ATTY,TO FURNISH LEGAL GUIDANCE
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C[�t�ilSI�OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
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RATIFY ACTION OF CITY MANAGER
DADE COUNTY MASTER PLAN
LITTLE LEAGUE LIGHTS TN SHENANDOAH PARK
ENDORSE CONFERENCE ON III-LINGUALISM SOCIETY
BISCAYNE COLLEGE - OPA LOCKAJUNE 7, 1975
REQUEST METRO TO DEFER ACTION ON PROPOSED
ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR RE -CERTIFICATION
OF 40 YEAR OLD BUILDINGS
(Prepared Resolution from earlier motion)
URGE STATE LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS
OF INCREASING DEMANDS ON STATE HUMAN SERVICE
SYSTEM
(Prepared resolution from earlier motion)
REQUESTING COUNTY COMMISSION TO SIMULTAN-
EOUSLY ADOPT COUNTY APPROVED MUNICIPAL BIKE
PLANS WITIH RECOMMENDED COUNTY PLAN -
NO FURTHER BIKE SIGNS UNTIL SAFE STANDARDS
ARE DEVELOPED ETC.
FREE USE OF MARINE STADIUM ON PAYT.OF COSTS
PAN AMERICAN GAMES ROWING REGATTA JULY
GRANT FREE USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM
LA SALLE HIGH SCHOOL - 5 days
REQUEST METRO TO INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER
ON CENTER PARKWAY ON CORAL WAY BETWEEN
S.W. 12 AND 37 AVENUES
DESIGNATE BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE TO
PORT - THOMAS C. WASMUTH PLAZA
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COt'1ISSIOti OF MIAMI FLORIDA
41441.4141.***-014
ON THE 10TH DAY OF APRIL, 1975, THE CITY COMMISSION OF AM ,
FLORIDAMgi' AT ITS REGU►.AR MEETING PLACE IN THE CITY HALL, 3 rAN
AMERICAN IRIVE, MIAMI, -LORIDA IN REGULAR SESSION.
THE METING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 9:00 O'CLOCK A►M► BY MAYOR
MAURICE A. bERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOUND TO
BE PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
Comm.i sstioneh Mano f o Rebas o
Commissianen Rasa Getden
Comnissio►tet (Rev.) Thcodm ' Gibson
Vice Mayon J. L. IN:UMme. , J:7.
Mayak ;tlauAi.cc A. F'CA IC
P. W. Andk i& , C.i to C1�inagc`c
A. P. Cnouch, Assistant City ,Manag e-
John S. L4'oyd, City Attctney
H. D. Southcnn, City Ceenh
Ralph G. Ongie, Assistant City CteAl,
An invocation was de&vened by Revete.►id Gibson who then 4'ed those
pkeeen,t .in a peedge o6 at'eg.iance to tlie. Stag.
A motion to waive the nead.i.ng (.S the minutes was i itnaduce.d and
seconded and was passed unanimousiy.
nPR 1 01975
1. PERSONAL APPEARANCE - H. ROSEN MAYOR OF MIAViI BEACH FOR
PRESENTATION TO:
FIRE CHIEF DON HI CKr1AN
Mayor H. Rosen: Mr. Mayor, 1. really appreciate and I apologize for the inter-
ruption, and members of the Commission, Mr. Kojack included indeed a pleasure.
It is really an honor for me to appear here today with my fire chief, Al Bishop.
Would you please come up here, Al. And just to let your city know, and you
gentlemen and ladies know how much we appreciate the fact of the assistance
that was given to us by your city at the recent rash of fires we had over in
Miami Beach. We have this plaque which is just a small token of our gratitude
to you and I want to let Chief Bishop present this to your fire chief if I may
and to your commission.
Chief Al Bishop, Miami Beach Fire Department: Chief, on behalf of the people
of Miami Beach and of course, the firemen who appreciate it the most for all
the times over the years that you've come over and assisted us many limes at
two or three O'Clock in the morning and not just with fires. We have a great
rescue division and you and I know that it is a great deal in part because you
assisted us along the line, trained our men. We have a good plans reader in
our Fire Prevention Bureau because you trained that man for us. We have a good
combat division because some of our men were trained by you. But we do apprec-
iate very deeply and this plaque 1 hope represents just a small token of our
deep gratitude and I'd like to read it now if I may. It says: The City of
Miami Beach Certificate of Appreciation - This Certificate is bestowed upon
the Miami Fire Department for most valuable and distinguished service in behalf
of the City of Miami Beach. Your efforts have contributed significantly to the
betterment of this city and its people and have served as an exemplar of dedi-
cation and devotion to the common good. This certificate proclaims the recog-
nition of this achievement by a grateful community and by a grateful Miami Beach
Fire Department. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen and thank you, Chief
Hickman.
Chief Hickman; Mayor Rosen and Chief Bishop, in accepting this plague for the
City of Miami let me tell you that we certainly appreciate it and we always
stand ready to cross the bay to help you. That is basically the function of
Fire Department personnel and it is our pleasure to be associated with you,
Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
Mayor Terre: We ate proud of both of you.
ReV. Gibson: Mr. Mayor we teed to tell the Chief from Miami Beach
whet it is done better we are going to do ft.
Chief Hickman: You are absolutely right. You have the finest fire department
'izt the world, in case you don't know it, but I am sure you do.
Mr. Plummer: Chief Hickman don't leave. Chief Bishop I want you to know
that the City of Miami within about 30 days will be the recipient of the first
150 ft. snorkle fire truck in the United States. The Manager is not aware that
they are now making a 240 footer which I am going to make him aware of, but
this will help us as well as it will help you.,
Mayor Ferre: I want to know, ---Plummer is always well informed as to
what is going on in the fire and police departments, and I want to know what
intentions he has with that 240 ft. snorkle fire truck.
Unidentified person: That will give him a tremendous look -out for crime
in the downtown area.
(Laughter)
Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre, I would like at this time for Chief Hickman
to introduce a person who is on his staff that has been very beneficial to me
this past week but I know that she is going to make a tremendous help to the
fire department. Where did she go Don, I think you should introduce her to the
Commission.
Chief Hickman: Her name is Josephine, she is our public relations young
lady. We were fortunate to get her under title 6, so we appreciate all the
help you people have done.
Mr. Plummer: I am sure she will be a tremendous asset to the Fire Department.
APR 1 01975
COCONUT GROVE - PHASE I
2. CHANGE OF ZONING PUBLIC HEARING AND FIRST READING ORDINANCE
Mayor Ferre: We are back on Item 4.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, this is Phase I
of the Coconut Grove Planning Stuay for your consideration and is bounded by
Bird Road, 27th Avenue and Dixie Highway. The recommendations on the changes
of zoning to meet the objectives as set forth in the Planning Study are illustrated
by the two maps we have for you consideration. The map on the wall now illustrates
the existing zoning pattern and the second map illustrates for your consideration
the proposed changes of zoning to meet the objectives as set forth in the Planning
Study. The major changes are upgrading of zoning at the gateway to Coconut Grove
which we consider to be 27th Avenue and Dixie Highway. We have recommended a change
in zoning in that area from the C-4 Liberal Commercial classification to C-2. We
fill that this intersection should present the best possible visual image and that
the liberal C-4 classification does allow certain uses which do not contribute
to a better visual image for Coconut Grove. The other changes are from ----the
intersection of a little commercial shopping at the intersection of Bird
Road and 27th Avenue presently is zoned C-4, You notice there is a spotty pattern
in that area. Most of the uses in that area are pededstrian oriented retail uses.
So we recommended a change of the commercial uses to the new zoning classification
of C-2 A which is in conformance to the pattern established for the central
business district of Coconut Grove. The other major change is the upgrading of
zoning along Bird Avenue from R--2 to R-3A. We believe that this action if taken
by the commission will result in the development along Bird Road, that it will
be of a low -density nature but will result in replacing the number of structures
that are somewhat blighted in certain cases along Bird Avenue. There is one more
change I wanted to mention, that is the two large areas along Dixie Highway which
I am sure the commission is quite familiar with. Both of these areas have been
developed for the most part apartment uses of an intensive nature, again which
is not compatible with the image as projected for Coconut Grove, and is recommended
for a roll -back in intensity to the R-4 classification. Now the area to the west
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of McDonald Avenue at the Planning Advisory level, there was considerable
discussion on it, that perhaps the commission and the Planning Dept. should
consider the introduction of a certain amount of residential commercial uses
instead of the R-4 classifications. Mr. Calhoun is in the audience and Iwouid
like him to speak to that particular section.We have had a meeting with Mr.
Calhoun and other property owners in the area and we had agreed that we would
recommend to the Commission that they not consider that triangle in their deliberations
today. But I would like Mr. Calhoun to speak to that particular parcel to make the
commission aware of why he amoung others would like consideration of commercial
and we think there is some validity to this argument.
Mayor Ferre: Mike, before I recognize you, who are the other speakers
or objectors on this particular item. Who else would like to be heard. You
all want to speak. We have 5 pseakers, maybe h.
Mr. Mike Calhoun: Mr. Mayor and City Commission, first I would like to
thank Mr. Acton, I think it is his efforts and suggestions that presents a
possible solution to this problem. Apparently there is a new zoning and
I'll let Mr. Acton speak to this, an R-CC that would fit this area and leave
the uses that we thought would be best for it rather than causing an owner
to build more apartment buildings. We did meet. Capt. 1)onnely was there for
the other part, myself and an architect 1 believe is here,----yes,----I think
it does present a very good solution as to what he proposes and hopes the City
will go forward with it.
Mayor Ferre: You mean R-CC?
Mr. Calhoun: Yes, in other words, you would preclude this particular area
front, and go ahead and pass your phase I but exclude this area and immediately
institute this R-CC zoning which we believe will take care of this situation.
Mr. Acton suggested this, and as far as 1 know all the owners will be very agreeable
to it. I haven't spoken to any of them who are not agreeable to it, but I am sure
when they are aware of it they will be.
Thank you.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor that concludes our presentation of Phase I.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you and now we will hear from the members of the public
who want to speak.
Mr. John Hinson: I am John Hinson, 3009 Bird Avenue, a city employee,
retired. I notice on this black out here on Bird Road, I'd like to have somebody
say something about why all that is to be changed. It is only poor people right
there. Nine out of ten are retired people. Here in front of where I have my
finger , you have a blue space R-A 3-A, now why is that vacant?
Mr. Acton: You talked about a blue vacant space? Where?
Mr. Hinson: Right there between Bird Avenue, the word Bird Avenue, the
arrow pointing to it, come down, ----right there, --why is that vacant?
Mr. Acton: It is presently zoned R-3A. We are recommending a change
in zoning all along Bird Road from R-2 to R-3A. That particular parcel was
zoned by court order to R-3A.
Mayor Ferre: In other words it will all be the same.
Mr. Hinson: That is owned by hippies and it: is the dirtiest place for the
last 44 years on Bird Road. 1 have a nice decent yard and a nice little home.
It looks like you want to run us out. When I built there no house from there to
the highway, Bridgeport to Virginia,nothing but pine trees and palmettos, and now
look at it now,
Mr. Acton; That 3-A parcel is developed.
Mr, Hinson: You tried four times, this makes four times to change the
zoning, and I would like to know why?
Mayor Ferre; Mr. Acton do you have anything else to add,
Mr. Acton; No, sir,
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Mr. Randolph Lipscomb: 1 am Randolph I.ipscomh,I practice with
and Lipscomb at 1201 Brickeil Avenue Suite 616. I represent Crapeland Boulevard
Realty, and out complaint is with the change from C-4 to C-2, the little corner
at the intersection of U.S. 1 and 27th Avenue. My client also owns real property
at the corner of Bird and 27th Avenue which is the Levine Cleaners-E-7. Quick Market
property which is being changed from C-2 to C-2A. We have no objection there
although we are not particularly happy about: it, the change is not unreasonable.
The property we own at the corner of U.S. 1 and 27th however is known as Crooks
Bait and Tackle and the change there from C-4 to C-2 we believe is unreasonable.
This area encompasses a number of different businesses. There are three bait and
tackle stores, two service stations; a motor tune-up and electric parts company,
a liquor store, an oriental rug store, a used furniture company and a fast food
shop. So you have numerous owners and lessees in a relatively small area, less
than one square block. This is precisely ,:he type of business that is carried
on north of U S 1 and is not being rezoned. It is an island of interrupted
general commercial type businesses, and it is our position that it should not
be changed merely because it is an island :-youth of U.S.1. Perhaps if we were
developing this area from the word go, and from scratch, it would not be such
an island but the fact is the people have invested a good portion of their
lives and fortunes in building up these businesses and the proposed change
woule completely alter the nature of that area. 1t would in effect have to
be razed to the ground and started over. This might be acceptable if the
city owned the premises. They could raze it, they could develop it, or they
could sell it to someone who could develop it in one fell swoop. Unfortunately
it is not owned by the city, ti is owned by a number of different owners who
are put in an untenable position by having this restriction of C-4 to C-2 placed
upon the property. The gentleman who spoke first said this entrance to Coconut
Grove should have the hest possible visuable image and we don't disagree with that
----the alternative is for the city to buy the premises and make a park out of
it with fountains, but don't destroy the present use without providing some sort
of viable alternatives and there is none.
Mrs. Gordon:Mr. Acton would you answer a couple of questions for me?
What uses that are presently in that area would no be permitted in the C-2?
Mr. Acton: Crook and Crook, --a bait and tackle store, which would be allowed
under C-2.
Mrs. Gordon: --would he allowed, which ones would not be allowed?
Mr. Acton: It is my understanding that they, and the attorney can speak to
that to put in a wholesale type of use that would not be allowed under the
C-2. The C-2 is oriented basically to retail trade. Most of the uses that are
there, a majority of them, would be allowed under C-2 but the liberal type
of uses such as wholesale operation would not be allowed. ---
Mr. Plummer: Would they be allowed under C-2?
Mr. Acton: No, they would not be allowed, --the wholesale operation, that
is a C-4, liberal commercial use, it requires warehouses usually in that type
of operation.
Mrs. Gordon:Is a wholesale use there now?
Mr. Acton: The attorney can speak to that. I am not that familiar with
his operation, but it is our understanding that, ---I'd rather have him speak to
that.
Mr. Lipscomb: 1 am attorney for the land owner, not for Crooks Bait and
Tackle. Mr. Kline can tell you about that. What it does in effect, it blocks
our tenant in to a retail business. In the event the tenant leaves, we are going
to be stuck with the non -conforming use. If we try to make any type of alteration
it is going to prevent any type of expansion and any development of the property,
and severely restrict of the property. Mr, Cluck Kline is the attorney
for the wholesale use, It is my understanding it is not presently being used for
wholesale purposes, but their plans are to expand for wholesale purposes, The
attorney for Crook Bart and Tackle is present and will be speaking, he can tell
you exactly what the plans are and what their present position is,
Rev, Gibson, Mr. Acton, it is our intent, meaning all of us who live out
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who live in the City to try to up grade some of this area. Is that tight.
Mr. Acton: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You would want us to up -grade the area wouldn't yc,u?
Well sometimes in trying to up -grade an area, it becomes distasteful and
works some hardships on some of us. You would agree to that wouldn't you.
Mr. Lipscomb: Yes, but I can't agree that this up -grading is going to
be effective. It is a half -way measure.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask you this. You don't have the wholesale place there.
I want you to hear what 1 am saying. You don't have the wholesale place there now
and if I don't do something about up -grading it now, you are going to build a
wholesale place so you will install it, and then I'll never up grade it, isn't
that right?
Mr. Lipscomb: No, I don't agree sir.
Rev. Gibson: You don't
Mr. Lipscomb: No, I don't agree sir, I think there is an alternative
is a substantial up -grading, not going half way, restricting our use to what
it presently is. If you do it now, you are not up -grading. You are going to
leave things in the status quo while these businesses deteriorate over a number
of years. The only way that property is going to make a nice visual image for
Coconut Grove is to tear it all down and tart over, and the City has the right
to condemn it and to make this a nice entrance to Coconut Grove, if they don't
want this island of small businesses south of U.S.1. This is not the right way to
do it.
Rev. Gibson: 1 would hope that you would want us to try to arrive at the
art of the possible. Would you?
Mr. Lipscomb: Yes.
Rev. Gibson: We must arrive at the art of the possible. The art of the
possible would be, we don't have wholesale places there now, and I'll tell you
if I had One in there, today, and you wanted to take it from me, I would be
raising hell. I don't want you to be raising hell later on. See what I mean?
Mr. Lipscomb: Yes, thank you.
Mayor Ferre: The next speaker, your name and address for the record.
Mr. Chuck Kline: Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
I am Chuck Kline, I am with the law firm of Mershon Sawyer, Johnson, Dunwody
and Cole, and we are 1600 First Natl Bank Building, Miami. We represent Bill
Crooks and Sons Inc. and Enterprises, Inc. We don't represent
Crook and Crook, --Bill Crook does not own that anymore. I want to distinguish
between the two. You all have probably seen Crook and Crook, that is down
on Bird Road. I am speaking today to Bill Crook and Sons, Inc. Crooks Bait
and Tackle and that is located at the intersection of 27th Avenue and Dixie
Highway, and you are all familiar with that inetersection. There is a Sunoco
station there, there is a Royal Castle, there is a Gulf station, there is
our building, the Bait and Tackle building, then in the same block that is
being changed, or proposed to be changed, a automobile repair place, that
repairs parts, an oriental rug store and another bait and tackle store. All
these businesses are owned separately, the land is owned separately, so what
happens to that block isn't going to happen in a uniform pattern, no matter
what we do here zoning wise. I want to make that point clear. What we have done
and I'd live to ask the commission's indulgence on this, we have asked a well
known MAI appraiser, an expert, to study the character of the property that
we are concerned with, and study the proposed zoning changes and give the
commission his unbiased opinion on whether the proposed zoning is going to
be in the public interest so if 1 may I'd like to introduce Mr. Ted Slack,Jr
Mr Plummer: Mr. Kline, before you do that sir, l think the one thing this
commission is trying to find out that hasn't been answered, is there a wholesale
fish house going in there ?
Mr, Kline: Sir, there won't be a fish house, there is no proposed fish house,
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Mr. Kline: Right now the property we are talking about is used to
sell bait and tackle.
Mr. Plummer: I am well aware of that.
Mr. Kline: And submarine hardware supplies. We want to sellbait and
tackle on a wholesale basis also because the commercial fishermen in the
area have no place else to go for that type of supply except downtown Miami
on the river. We are not talking about a warehouse, we are talking about conducting
the same character of business, except it would he a legitimate wholesale business
as opposed to the retail walk-in. l might : point out that one of the problems that
Coconut Grove has had, is traffic. We all know there is a traffic problem down
there and wholesale businesses everyone knows require less automobiles per building
structure, less pedestrian oriented traffic and one of the members cf the
Planning and Zoning Department mentioned pedestrian oriented traffic and I
just want you all to visualize Dixie highway and 27th Avenue and tellme If
you think in your own mind that that location is one that is conducive to
pedestrian oriented businesses. If he was referring to Bird Road 1 will take
that back but the last time we had a hearing on this before the P.A.B. it was
mentioned that C-2 was a good pedestrian oriented type business. That is why
it ought to go in there, but that is not a pedestrian oriented area, but
are there any other questions before Mr. Slack comes on.
Mr. Ted C. Slack: I am Ted C. Slack, 1 am a real estate appraiser, my
office is at 1620 W. Flagler Street, Miami. At Mr. Kline's request and on
behalf of Mr. Crook I made a study of this area, and this property in particular.
I found several things, a couple of which have been commented on, this intersection
is one of the busiest in the area. Property in the area, in the C-4 is completely
developed at the present time, gasoline service stations and the other uses
that have been referred to. They of course would be allowed to continue if they
were in conflict, at least under the 'grandfather clause' so there would be no
substantial difference, In fact there will be no difference at all in the uses
to which the property is being put, regardless whether it is C-4 or C-2. What
it would do, of course, would restrict the number of uses, --alternative uses
to which the property could be put. Directly to the south of 28th Street as
you know is the A & P, or was an A. & P. on east side of 27th Avenue. This
property is now vacant, the A & P is moving out of the state. Obviously a building
which is vacant creates problems, we are having some in Dade County in various
areas due in part to general economic conditions and it would seen that restrictions
which made property more difficult to utilize could result in higher vacancies
and could contribute to economic problems as well. The question in my mind was
would the proposed change benefit the residents of the surrounding area, is
there a benefit to the property owners, by a proposed change or a detriment.
In the event we propose a change which would work an economic hardship on individuals
or cause a decrease in their property values, then we would take that into con-
sideration. In this particular case the uses which the properties are being took,
are substantially the ones that will continue, and whether this particular business
is retail or wholesale, will have no direct effect on property values in the area.
No one will be happier or more sad or made richer or poorer. In other words there
is no social cost to the property owners and the taxpayers by the present zoning
continuing to exist as it has for a number of years. I also felt that because
of the high density of traffic and so on, that this was a logical place for
a liberal business zoning. In any community there would have to be some of that
----it would be nice in a way for our community would look better if we would
limit it to hundred thousand dollars houses, and everybody could live in one, but
that is not always practical and as much as there are some requirements for liberal
business zoning in this particular area this is virtually the only property which
is so zoned, it seemed reasonable to me that the C-4 zoning should be allowed to
continue and it would be no harm to taxpayers or residents of the area by this
zoning continuing.
If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.,
Mayor Ferre: Thank you Mr. Slack. Who is the next speaker?
Mr, Kline: Mr. Mayor 1 wanted to wrap up what Mr. Slack has said, if you
don't mind just a second, From the facts that have been presented to the Board
there are a couple of things that become apparent, No, 1 the proposed re -zoning
of the subject property is inconsistent with every existing use, No, 2 the inter-
section that we are concerned with, is an intersection with a 6 lane highway and
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a'four lane highway; not conducive to pedestrtoa oriented uses, not conducive
to a low plane of the commercial nses. No. I if you haven't: considered this,
please do so, across Dixie Highway on the north side is the railroad track and
nothing but a string of commercial buildings. That: character of that property
is no different than the character of the property on the south side of Dixie
Highway and 27th Avenue. The character is identical. It is cardinal principle
of the zoning law that the character of the two parcels are same. That is it
discrimination to treat one with one kind of zoning and one with a restrictive
kind of zoning. The next point is that we are looking at the rapid transit
corridor.
Mayor Ferre: Ts it C-4 across Dixie highway?
Mr. Kline: Yes, but you are not trying to change that. So you would have
the problem of anyone at the south side of Dixie Highway at that intersection
having C-2 looking across the street at C-4. The next point, Mr. Mayor, it seems
to me that we all must expect that Dixie Highway is going to become an elevated
highway within the next 10 years. It has to happen. That is the only corridor
in the S.W. section, it just has to happen, and when it does it seems very
inconsistent to have a C-2 use sitting right next to a proposed rapid transit
corridor. Not only that if the rapid transit does come in, they are going to
have to have a county wide belt of zoning on each side of it. It has already
been provided in theory. On each side of the corridor it• would change the zoning
of that property again. It seems to me that the owners are going to he hop -scotched
around from zoning to zoning in the next few years, and that doesn't seem right.
Finally when this city approved the Coconut. Grave master plan in it, and part of
that plan many of the marine associated uses that were located in this area are
ear -marked for relocation. And the plan had ,a little caveat, that these marine
associated uses such as bait and tackle stores, wholesale commercial, bait and
tackle and marine hardware, were uses that were necessary,incidental to a
waterfront area, but there was no need to put these uses in land that was much
more valuable to the public for other purposes. And I think that makes good
sense, but the caveat also went on to recite that the uses should located
nearby, yet if we change this land at Dixie highway and 27th Avenue from
C-4 to C-2 that is the end, there is no more land in Coconut Grove where
those uses can go to.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton how strongly do you feel about this?
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission I want to point
out the fact that we are talking about one operation in one piece of land
that presently wouldn't conform to the C-2 requirements. We are trying to
up -grade the visual appearance of the entry or gateway to Coconut Crovc,and
we are strongly convinced that the only vehicle that we can use to achieve
this objective is the zoning pattern. There is only one in there now that
would not,
Mayor Ferre: You think that by changing the zoning you are going to
change the appearance?
Mr. Acton: Yes, in the future, but I started to say there is only
one use in there now that would not be allowed under C-2. The present operation,
you know bait and tackles are allowed as long as they are carried out in enclosed, -
Mayor Ferre: We in government have a tendency all the time to think that
we can legislate the things we want. I appeared before the Metro commission on
the Master Plan a week or two ago, and the comment I made there and 1 want to
share with you is, if you go hack, George, and you have been here that Long,
over the past 25 years, and think of all the things that all of our governments
have spent in time trying to do, and look and see what happened, --what has happened
to this community has got nothing to do with what the government wanted to happen.
That may be good and bad, I don't know, but the point is we seem to think that we
can legislate what is going to happen in the private sector, the fact is if we
could do that we would not have a recession or depression, which is what we are in.
And if we knew how to legislate simple things, like the economy, we would get out
of this recession in two months . We can't do that much less, by legislation really
decide what the private sector is going to do on a piece of property, so I don't
go along with this premise, that you can control what is going to happen to
a piece of property by changing the zoning. I think our reasons are a lot stronger
than that, because I think that is a pretty weak reason.
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Mt. Acton: My statement was that the C-4 allows uses that would be
detrimental to trying to up -grade the visual appearance. It allows open
storages it allows body and paint shops, all kinds of uses that are not
there now, but if we leave C-4, we leave the door open for the future
development of those properties in types of uses that would not be what
we are looking for to entrance way to Cocotut Grove, My other statement
was there is only one use in there now that would not he allowed in C-2
and I agree that you can't legislate development through the use of zoning,
but we can encourage the type of development in the future that we are
looking for in particular situations and I. might point Mr. Mayor to the
Brickell area which you are involved, is a long tedious process but that
area after we enacted zoning controls to give us the type of objectives
we are looking for, has developed in that pattern. Sc we are only using
the zoning controls to give us the type of uses in the future that we
believe are in the hest interests of the entire community.
Mayor Ferre: That is a good argument. That one I understand. What
else have you got to say en it?
Mr. Acton: That pretty well covers it.
Mayor Ferre: You are saving you feel pretty stong,---
Mr. Acton: Yes, ----
Mayor Ferre: Next speaker, ---
Mr. Thomas Dillon: My name is Thomas Dillon, 1 own the service station
on the corner of 27th Avenue and Dixie Highway. 1 have been there 21 years
and I pay over $2500. taxes to the City. Ne one notified me of this change.
They wrote and told me it would not affect me, but then I understood and someone
showed me a letter that it would affect me, they would zone me down. Now, then,
there is something these gentlemen haven't considered at all. We hava been paying
for 15 ft. that lays in front of the station, and also in front of Crook and Crook,
that the City would not let us build on, hut we pay taxes on that property for
the last 20 years. The City says we are going to take that someday and widen the
street. Now, in the afternoon if you go there and sit, you will see where the
traffic is so heavy on 27th Avenue and No. 1 Highway and the people just have
to sit on the 27th Avenue. It is crowded in the afternoon when people are leaving
down here and going home. But the main thing is they are talking about changing
it to 2 if this 15 ft. is taken, and that is 30 ft. to widen, and right in front
of where you are talking about. That street is going to be so much wider that there
wouldn't be anybody that would want to open up a wholesale place there at all. We
would be satisfied with the business, and we are satisfied now, and I don't know
who in the world is going around asking for changes because I am one of the owners
that have occupied the property, stayed there for over 20 years, and the place
next to me and all the other people, we are all doing business but you can go
down the street, and get permits to do any kind of business you wish. I think
someone should ask why they didn't send me a notice because I am the only owner
that occupies the property, in the whole corner there. The others rent, so I'd
like to see why that was accomplished, and other people have asked the same
question, why was Dillon not notified when he owns the property and he is there,
why didn't he get a letter? I hope you gentlemen can get this thing straightened
out.
Mayor Ferre: Can we answer that? Mr. Acton,
Mr. Simpson: Mr. Mayor, the mailing list from our office on this particular
item involved somewhat over 1000 property owners, and we used the labels from
the computer of Dade County , from the tax rolls. 1 can't specifically answer
why this gentleman did not receive one, but- we went from the property owners
list prepared by the Planning Department for this given area and it was put
into the Dade County tax computers. If this gentleman will contact me I'll
see that he is put on the mailing list. You did not receive a copy of the maps?
Mr, Dillon: No, I did not.
Mr. Simpson: l can't answer the question any further than that,
Mr,Dill on: I am against rezoning after 20 years on the corner and making
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it so that if I decided I didn't want a service station, I'd have to come
down and say 'boys, what can I open up now?' and you'd be the one to say
well you can't have a service station, you can't have this and you can't have
that. There was a saloon on the corner, there was a permit for a saloon and
we bought the saloon out and expanded the service there. No one ever said a
word.
Mr. Stephen Rash: Mr. Mayor and councilmen, 4 am Stephen .Rash and I am
with the law firm of Edwards Rash and Hoffman, 7500 Red Road in S. Miami,
and I represent Crook and Crook inc. Snug Pit Marine Products, Commercial
Sales and Warehousing, and Coastal Marine electronics. All of these businesses
are located in the C-4 area which is on Bird Avenue near 27th Avenue. Now
at this specific intersection which has been the subject matter of the
previous gentleman's discussion, 1 was particularly interested in Rev. Gibsons
statement that he would 'raise holy hell' if someone tried to take away his
business. We do have an interest in a wholesale business there. There is a
wholesale marine hardware business there, but it is not, a 'fish house'---
we do not sell fish or bait or mullet or any type of live, or once live product
for catching fish. we do sell marine hardware and boat supplies. Now according to
my understanding, at least what was represented earlier, that the purpose of this
is to upgrade the zoning at the gateway to Coconut Grove and I would ask that ---
it is the gateway to what?.■ ---the gateway to Coconut Grove, what is Coconut
Grove, what is the character of it. Well, there are trees and there is a boating
area, --we are right next to Dinner Key Marina, and T would submit that I represent
boating interest or retail and wholesale boating goods and as such these should
be located close to the boating people who need them. 1 think you are talking
about a counter -productive activity here if in deed this kind of proposal goes
through. Because you are talking about removing from the boating area the supplies
that are needed for the boats and I think you are talking about removing what
is needed to continue the Grove as it is now in existence. 1 think what you propose
is a taking because if you do not give to these people the due process of law
before you take the property, if you deny them the use which they now enjoy it
is a taking. Then they are not getting the compensation they are due. To deny
them the use of their property would indeed cr•aate business deterioration and
I think as Mr. Lipscomb pointed out earlier, I think it would to the city's
interest at least to buy the property, tear it down or raze the property then
reconstruct what they need, if that indeed what the city seeks to do, that is
change the appearance of things. Again I state there is one wholesale marine
hardware business there. The rest of the businesses I represent fix marine radar
or marine radios, or else they sell marine equipment and I think this is absolutely
necessary to a marine oriented community which is what the gateway is to lead to.
I think your zoning is inconsistent with the current use. I think the uses of
this area is marine and as such I do not believe the zoning proposal should
be affirmed or approved by this Commission.
Rev. Gibson: You were glad to repeat what I said. I hope you aren't telling
me that your business is typical of the people who are adjacent to it, who must
use the business. That isn't what you are telling me.
Mr. Rash: I am not sure I understand what you are asking.
Rev. Gibson: You must have perceived, based to something I said. I want
to make sure because I was listening attentatively to you; tell the commission
what the condition is all around there and Mr. Atkins ought to tell you.
Mr. Rash: 1 am not trying to tell the commission what is obvious.
Rev. Gibson; You have to talk about the obvious. That is the only way you
are going to change our minds. Tell us the whole story.
Mr. Rash: First of all I didn't think a mind was already made that needed
to be changed, but nevertheless, T think if we look out the back door, the City
Hall here, you are going to see a few boats, and this is a boating area, You
are talking about at least the beginning statements, the address that was made
to the commission and to the audience was, something about up -grading zoning
at the gateway of Coconut Grove. I submit this is a gateway, ----a gateway to where?
And it is coming right down 27th Avenue to Dinner Key or to the basic downtown
Grove area, I think we have a large boating interest,
Mayor Ferre; You are repeating yourself, You already made that statement,
If you have something new to say, fine,
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Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you this. You had two basic arguments. You
are a sawyer, I am not. You know as a lawyer, I am sure you researched all
of this, that in many courts tl-e right of a government, the policing right
of a government and zoning is that, has been upheld. Government has the right
to protect the over-allgood of the totality of the citizens. That is what
these zoning roll -backs are all about. You as a lawyer know that. I think
your argument about confiscation without due process .is completely falacious
and without compensation. The other argument is your strong argument, and I
think that is the one I would like to ask Mr. Acton to answer, and that is
Mr. Acton, this is the third person this morning who has mentioned the fact
----and I think it is a very important point, and T tell you, are going to
have to answer it to satisfy me, and that is, that Coconut Grove is a water
oriented community, and the life of Coconut Grove and Dinner Key marina, all
the boats down there, allthe clubs, and water-roiented activities are dependent
upon bait shops, warehouses, marine hardware where you can buy a rope or light
or shrimp to go out and fish, or a cane pole. If you are going to rezone this
area where Crook and Crook are and where these places are you buy bait, how is
that going to affect that business.
Mr. Acton: It will not affect that business as long as it is totally
enclosed in its retail sales, and that is what we are talking about. In other
words they can sell bait inside they can tackle, marine hardware, so I don't
know what the basis of this argument is. Wholesale activities that would result
in a warehouse and strictly wholesale, that is a liberal commercial use.
Mayor Ferre: Crook and Crook can operate?
Mr. Acton: Certainly, it is a retail u.e, and as long as it is totally
enclosed within a building, --
Mayor Ferre: If they want to go across the street for example into another
C-2 area and build another shop, they can still do that.
Mr. Acton: Yes, ----I totally agree, with the concept that Coconut Grove
is a water -oriented community and it should have these types of uses to support
it.
Mayor Ferre: I don't understand your argument.
Mr. Acton: I don't understand eithere what the point is he is trying
to make, because we do allow this type of use in C-2 and I totally agree
with what he said in terms of, ---
Mayor Ferre: Lets go hack to him. I don't see what your argument is
and if under C-2 you can operate the type of operation that Crook and Crook
has, and all the different facilities, then I don't see what your argument is.
Mr. Rash: Very well, let's address ourselves to exactly that. At my opening
statement I said I represented Crook and Crook Inc. and three other entities
here today, one of which is called Snug Fit Marine Products, Inc.. Snig Fit Marine
Products INc. is a wholesaler. It wholesales not only to, ---it wholesales to
just about every retail outfit you find in this area and it is litterly upstairs
from Crook and Crook, so I want the Commission to appreciate the fact that what
you are doing does affect actually the supplier of all of the boating supplies
in the entire Grove area.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton you may as well stay on your feet.
Mr. Rash: If they do not buy from Snug Fit Marine products they are going
to have to go all the way to Ft. Lauderdale or surely up to the north part of
Miami to get their products. So we are a wholesaler.
Mayor Ferre: Let's see the answer on that. The question is specifically
what will happen to wholesalers who want to sell to retail outlets like Crook
.and Crook?
Mr, Acton: As 1 said before, wholesaling is not allowed in ('-2. In other
words it conjures up visions of warehouses, and open storage and this type of
activity, so it is not permitted under C-2. But I do agree, the only recommendation
I could make to the Commission is that they refer back to the Planning Adv. Board
the consideration of amending that, so certain types of wholesale activities
that do not involve open storage and warehouses and etc. totally enclosed, would
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be pertnitted in C-2 maintaining certain
there ate too many liberal uses allowed
we want here, but t think it is a valid
marine activities should he considered.
controls. What we are saying is that
in C-4. It is not the kind of uses
point, that certain types of whole.;ale
Mayor Ferre: I don't know how anybody else feels around here but I
am not going to vote•for any rezoning which is going to automatically cut
out what I think is a very clean important and healthy industry in our
community. We are always fighting and we don't want dirty industry here, but
marine oriented industry and wholesalers, to me, the logical place for them to
be is Coconut Grove. It has developed that way by nature. The free flow ideas
and money have created this type of business. 1 don't: think we should legislate
them out of business.
Mr. Acton: You are not going to do that Mr. Mayor. They would still
exist there as a non -conforming, use. What I am suggesting is we amend theC-2
Mayor Ferre: I wouldn't mind seeing the whole street become a very nice
marine -oriented shops.
Mr. Acton: What I am saying is 1 concur with that, they will not he
legislated out of existence. We can't do that legally. They will still exist
in there and still run their buiness the same way.
Mrs. Gordon: What did you say amends the C-2?
Mr. Acton:My recommendation is to refer back the matter amending the
C-2 district, perhaps as a conditional use, with certain controls so we can
get that kind of clean marine type of wholesaling activities. I concur with
what you are saying Mr. Mayor. I also saying the C-4 alloes so many types of
liberal uses that might come in there in the future would not give us the
kind of we are =working for.
Mayor Ferre; I understand, so we understand each other,
accomplish what they want and accomplish what you want.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Acton you have created so many new kinds of zoning
classifications you are going to have to come up with something that will
achieve the goals you want to up grade and still give us the kind of community
we want which will be in tune to the waterfront. So, put your thinking cap on.
Rev. Gibson: Would it harm you if we move to defer this so you and this
gentleman can get together.
Mayor Ferre: Who remains to speak. Three speakers? I am going to cut
it down to 2 minutes. Try to keep it short and to the point.
Mr. Wayne Allen:
Association. I reside
the recommendation of
we can
My name is Wayne Allen, I am a director of the Tigertail
at 2222 S.W. 27th Terrace A. I am here this morning supporting
the Planning Advisory Board and therefore the Coconut Grove
Planning Study which this item implements, a portion of that. There are really
two point I would like to make. I think Rev. Gibson was getting to it, but it
really didn't come out all the way, most of the areas that back up to these
rezonings are especially the portion right at 27th Avenue are single family
residential streets. There is no buffer zone at all. You just walk across the
street and there is a single family home. And I live about three blocks from
that intersection and I can tell you, I have been watching it for about 5 years
and at one time, those homes were beginning to be down -graded. Within the last.
year quite a few of them are coming back up. 1 think if you don't go ahead and
put in this zoning as recommended you are going to leave the door wide open
for abuses in the future that will lead to the eventual down -grading of that
area, So I strongly urge you go ahead and take this into account, Something
which all these fine brother attorneys of mine fail to bring out, which I
think is the real reason why they are here today, is that I think there is
a general belief that there is an inherent greater value in C-4 zoning rather
than the C-2 which is proposed. 1 think this is the real crux of the matter.
The marine uses I am sure if they come down before this commission and said
they have reasonable marine use, that this commission would grant a variance
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and we would not have any objections to that because we recognize the marine
benefit to this community. So rather than delaying it or going back and trying
to get an overall exception I would urge that this commission go ahead and implement
the proposal.
Thank you.
Mr. Ted Schumy: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission I am Ted Schumy,
I live at 3610 Bayview Rd. Coconut Grove. I am an architect,I am president of
the Coconut Grove Civic Club. The Civic Club's position wholeheartedly endorses
the Planning Board recommendation to rezone this to C-2. I think the situation
about the wholesaling has been distorted somewhat in that, as I understand it
the existing wholesale operation of Crook and Crook is an upstairs office and
there is no prohibition against that whatsoever. Wba the C-2 does prohibit are
loading docks and large warehouses and i think we all agree we don't want that
to happen in these areas. So I urge you now to go ahead and pass this C-2 district
and let's get on with it.
Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Who has not spoken, ----
Ms. 0zie Williams: My name is Ozie Williams and I am 3021 New York Street.
I am thinking about the propoerty on New York Street and Bird Avenue which the
Marine Compan would like to take over. It is right in front of the
house. I was here a couple of weeks ago about that property.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, do you recall her comments last month. She was
going to meet with you. Where do we stand on this? Remember the property she
owns.
Mr. Jack Luft: She was here responding to Phase II zoning changes, which
is not subject to this particular hearing. I did try to contact you several times
but you were at work.
Ms. Williams: Right, --
Mayor Ferre: Would you meet with him right now and set up a time that both
of you , , so we don 't get into these troubles that he tried to reach you
and you were at work , then he couldn't get you.
Mr. Luft: As far as New York Street goes, on New York Street the present
property that is C-1 is recommended for R-3A and that will be residential only,
not commercial.
Ms. Williams:They speak of the property as of Dixie Highway but actually
it is on Bird, corner of Bird and New York.
Mr. Luft: It has been recommended for residential use, not commercial.
Ms. Williams: Thank you.
Mrs. Woods: I am Mrs. Woods, 2995 Jackson. I am very much in agreement
with the changes along Bird Avenue to the R-3A. It has been spotty and we
have known the changes are needed for a more cohesive area, but I think if
you look on your map, if you notice Jackson abuts where the changes are going
to be, the line has been drawn across the street, ---the block, I beg your pardon,
so those of us that own property along Jackson will be abutting where the
change is and Mary of course has many multiple buildings, Virginia has along
one end of it an apartment building, it has a fire. station, the Quick Chek,
a very spotty street. We are stuck, backing up to these proposed changes and
my thought is that is the line is dogged in to include that part of Jackson,
Jackson it self would act as a natural buffer and we wouldn't be left sitting
on property that will be backed up to something that is used for a higher use
that we get no advantage out of and all the disadvantages of the noise and
the increased parking facilities which will come along with it. I am on the
corner of Virginia and Jackson as it is, and that is a main business artery
right now through, not only for motor traffic but also for people who are walking
to the market. Many of our people from the area are older people and they travel
on foot,so if that change, instead of going in a straight pencil line, jogged in
to include Jackson there, 1 think it would make a morn natural line of demarcation.
Thank you,
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Mr. Ralph Aaron: My name is Ralph Aaron, I own property in Coconut
Grove. Mrs. Gordon, Commissioners, I just want to make the following comments.
Seven years ago, when the Planning Dept. made a recommencation for an R-3A
zoning category through the device of what was then known as a special planning
area study, I was opposed to it. My argument at that time was that it was out
of context with the over-all compehensive planning for the Grove area. Since
we now have a planning study for Coconut Grove, I would like to rescind that
objection because the propoasl is in context with the abutting properties and
the overall plan. I would like to throw in my 2c,by saying I would hope you
would pass the R-3A portion of this plan.
We also have a situation historically where one particular local developer
had come in with two spot zones which were technical were not called spot zones
and that is the R-3 property that now exists at Mary and Bird and the other
which was R-3A a spot zone by any other name, at Virginia and Bird. Well
that set the pattern and now of course we have the comprehensive plan for
the Grove and we have the spot zones as a precedent for justifying this R-3A
category so 'would propose it. I would like to say one other thing however,
and that is since when you do change zoning there can he a deleterious effect
on abutting properties in the next lower zoning category and that is what this
lady is talking about. I would suggest that the Planning Dept. of the City of
Miami take it upon itself to recommend certain sides of local residential streets
for no parking so these people aren't deleteriously affected by the proposal
that accrues a benefit both for the community and for the property owners of
the next street who do got an up grading of their zoning category. Every time
there is a benefit there seems to be a loss. These kinds of people would incur
the loss, therefore a study to recommend to the transportation department,
the traffic and transportation department of Metro Dade County that they put
up signs saying 'no parking' on the streets, that might be affected by excessive
traffic.
Mayor Ferre: We have one last speaker. You have already spoken so I am
going to hold you down to a minute or two maximum, so fi,ish up what you have
to say and then we are going to get on with it.
Mr. Chuck Kline: My name is Chuck Kline and I have been here before.
I am speaking for Bill Crook & Sons Inc. the property at Dixie and 27th Avenue.
I want to address myself to remarks I have heard made by other people concerning
the marine business and the uses allowed in to C-2. No. 1 the wholesale brokerage
is first permitted in C-4, therefore by law it is now permitted in any lower
grade.
Mayor Ferre: That can be changed.
Mr. Kline: No. 2, bait and tackle is not permitted until C-4. I tried
to get an occuaptional permit yesterday. Mr. Tuiley and Mr. both told
me it is C-2.
Mayor Ferre:That can also be changed.
Mr. Kline: No. 3, you say the purpose of the zoning is to beautify the
area. Well, beautify the area fine. But if you have a non -conforming use, remember
this, that the owner of the non -conforming use, though he may want to put in a new
building and make it a better looking place, can't do it because when he does that
his grandfather shoes are going to be taken out from under him. Therefore what you
do with non -conforming uses, everyone of them in this block up there, is you lock
them into their old decrepit buildings for the next 15 or 20 years until they
finally give up and let go, whereas if you leave the zoning the way it is at
least when they want to make a change and business warrants it, they can go
ahead and get the permits and change the buildings and the final point is, this
did not come to you as far as Dixie Highway property is concerned with the
blessing of the commission 7 to 0. I realize that is how they voted finally
but I was at the PAB hearing and members of the Planning Adv. Board first proposed
a motion to withdraw the Dixie Highway property from the proposal, and it was
voted on and 3 to 4 it failed, but it shows you that 3 out of 7 members of that
Planning Adv. Board believes the Dixie Highway Property shouldn't be rezoned,
For a number of reasons, one of which is the rapid transit problem.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: What is the will of the commission:
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Mayor let me make two observations. Maybe there is
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an alternative or No. 1 pull that map clown a little bit George, Douglas
1 am going to go back and harp on something that l did before. George it doesn't
Get well with men at all, of the HUD project at Douglas and Dixie. I personally
am totally opposed to that situation going in there into an area which I think
is going to be just another problem that we are trying to eliminate in Coconut
Grove. I am all in favor of thie housing. I think it is great and really don't
know what control this commission could have over HUD in putting in another
type of housing there that I feel is going to be undesirable. We have been trying
to eliminate that situation on Douglas Road. Here it looks to me we are going to
further the situation. 1 don't believe anybody should be living on Dixie Highway
I don't think it is conducive to good living. I think the noise factor, I believe
the new rapid transit is going to be coming down within 100 ft.---I think this
commission if they agree with me, should really speak to HUD about doing something
that if they are hell-bent on putting that housing in there, that they at least
make it a livable situation for the people rand lets up -grade the area and not
down -grade the area. That is No. 1
No. 2. I am concerned of the intersection, if you will pull it back Jack
over to 27th Avenue and Dixie Highway, whether we like it or don't like it, there
are certain back up types of commodities that people have to have, gasoline is
one and there are two stations that operate there, and they operate very successfully
----the thing that scares me, if you reduce this down to C-2 that yes, they can
operate there , they are grandfathered.
Mr. Acton:C-2 allows gasoline stations as a conditional use, so it is
not a matter of we are going to make them non -conforming.
Mr. Plummer: You are telling me under. a C-2 if this man wanted to come
back in and put another filling station there, he could.
Mr. Acton: As a condi.tional. use,
Mr. Plummer: Well I withdraw my observation there. Only thing I wanted
to say was that I don't think it was right, there has to be certain designated
areas, let's say, I don't want to call a filling an undesirable use, but before
this commission it has always been a had thing, but they are necessary. You have
to have them and it just boils down that if you move them out of this area you
know and I know what practicality is going to tell us the next thing we are going
to be having them ask for variances deeper down in the residential. If what you
are telling me that these type of businesses can exist, fine. I withdraw that.
Mr. Acton: Iagree with your comments. 1 want to answer your first comment
and to he designed which I think the commission should review, tries to buffer
the design as proposed by the architect for HUD does buffer the elderly housing
from Dixie Highway, through the vehicle of a solid mass of earth, somewhere
around 12' ft.
Mr. Plummer: Are you telling me the housing is going to be 12 ft. or lower.
Mr. Acton: No, it is medium rise housing. What T am saying is they are
building an earth berm along Dixie Highway around 12 ft. high, at about a
45° angle that would effectively reduce any sound that is emitted from the
vehicular traffic along Dixie Highway.
Mr. Plummer: What I. disagree with is, I just don't think there should
be any kind of residential backing up to Dixie Highway. Look at these people
closer down to where 1 live. They have barricades between there, and I saw
one the other day where a fence had come down, run Into by an automobile
and a foot behind that the guy had the guy had these concrete rollers, he
had another fence there, and T can imagine those people live in constant fear
of trucks and everything roming through their back door.
Mr, Acton: 0Ne of the advantages of multiple family, if the type of
development is done right, it gets back to what the Mayor has said many times
is that it creates, you know, a mass, is surrounded by a considerable amount
of open space that you wouldn't get if you developed it say, low density
single family or duplex. Again T think the commissioners should review those
plans, but the buildings are set hack quite a distance from Dixie Highway plus
they have buffered it with this earth berm.
Mr. Plummer: My next concern George is the same concern as it exists at
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Bird and Dixie. Right now, we have the old Hot Shop there, we have the marine
business, filling station, then going down we have professional. What is that
going to do to that particular area there, the change of zoning?
Mr. Acton: You are talking about that triangle that is bordered by
McDonald and Bird Road and Dixie Highway.
Mr, Plummer: No I am speaking to the intersection of Bird and Dixie.
Mr. Acton: That is under Phase I, we have been working with, --in terms
of zoning there are no changes, is that what you mean. I am not quite with you.
Mr. Plummer: Is there any proposed cha►tge of zoning at all in that
particular area now?
Mr. Acton: You realize you are not acting on that today?
Mr. Plununer: I understand that, but it is still compatible to the overall
situation.
Mr. Acton: We are not changing the zoning. The matter under consideration
by the owners of that: property was that they envisioned if we followed through
with our recommended zoning pattern that they couldn't build, or redevelop that
property in the future in the manner that they wanted to, so we had a meeting
of the minds with the owner of the Hot Shop property, and it will coming back
to you I assume at the next meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Right, following that on down let's call it between Bird
and Dixie, the triangle piece coming up to McDonald. Now, I see there you have
proposed on the corner,--- what have you proposed to that triangle, ---
Mr. Acton: That is the triangle that we recommend the commission not
act on today. You can exclude that from your consideration because we do
agree with some of the owner:: in there that there is room for a commercial -
residential type of zoning. Don't act o❑ that triangle.
Mr. Plummer: 1 understand what you are proposing and asking us to pass
this plan excluding that triangle and refer hack to the planning board for
consideration wholesale uses that are totally enclosed.
Mayor Ferre:--and other marine ;activities, ---
Mr. Acton: 1 agree with that.
Mrs. Gordon: Why is the R-C going to R-4 further to the east.
Mr. Acton: That is all presently developed as multiple family, there
is no commercial use in that area. It is all developed as R-4 uses now.
Mayor Ferre: Any further questions? Ask your question right from there
(to person in audience) and I'll repeat it The question is why don't we rezone
the property across Dixie Highway which is presently C-4?
Mr. Acton: I believe he is talking about the Sunoco station and that
is included in our recommendations.
Mayor Ferro: No, ac•rooss Dixie Highway on the north part of Dixie Highway.
Rev. Gibson: The other service station is behind Royal Castle.
Mr. Acton: It is a natural breaking point. The uses across there are
liberal uses, they abut the, ---
Mayor Ferre: The answer is, it is a natural breaking point, --you have to
break somewhere. What is the will of the commission? There is a motion by Mr.
Plummer to move this :as amended, and the amendment as l understand it that we
presently withhold the triangle described along Dixie and Bird and furthermore
that the aministration is charged with the responsibility of seeing that the
area is to be marked C-2, new areas, will have the right to hold commercial
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matine oriented activities, the full gamut of them from wholesaling to selling
of retail "materials, bait and all types of boating related activities,
Mrs, Gordon: I have a question of Mr. Acton for clarification to the
C-2 additional uses that would be offered as an amendmend to C-2 or are you
considering a new classification to encompass it?
Mr. Acton: No, it would be an amendment to C-2.
Mayor Ferre: I think what Mrs. Cordon is pointing out is then are we going
to have that many other C-2 areas throughout the City?
Mr, Acton: I would consider it appropr .ate if we introduce that as a
conditional use, to a certain extent:, There are certain types of marine
oriented retail uses that should be permitted as a matter of right. When you
get in the wholesaling activity accessory to a retail use then I think you need
some kind of control.
Mayor Ferre: George are you going to impose your policy over the commission's
policy.
Mr. Acton: Absolutely not, no sir.
Mayor Ferre: Do you understand what the thrust of what this commission is
saying?
Mr. Acton: Yes, absolutely.
Mayor Ferre: What you stated is exactly the opposite, as I heard it.
Let's go over this again, it is the intention as I read this commission's will
and somebody stop me, that C-2 in Coconut Grove permit warehousing of marine
activities, wholesaling, enclosed? Is that clear?
Mr. Acton: I understand Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: As you were saying it might be permissible,
Mr. Acton: 1 suggested as a conditional use, certain types of wholesaling
activities.
Mayor Ferre: Now, you are starting to hedge, -
Mr. Acton:No, I agree in toto with what the commission has instructed
us to do.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any further discussion on this item? Call
the roll,
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY CHANGING THE
ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON AREA BOUNDED GENERALLY BY FRONTAGE
ON SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY, S.W. 27TH AVENUE AND BIRD AVENUE
(PRASE I) FROM R-C (RESIDENCE OFFICE), R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY
MULTIPLE), C-1 (LOCAL COMMERCIAL), C-4 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL),
C-4 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL), R-2 (TWO FAMILY), AND R-3 (LOW
DENSITY MULTIPLE) TO R-3A (LOW DENSITY APARTMENT), R-4
(MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE), C-2 (COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL) AND
THE PROPOSED C-2A (SPECIAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL), AS SHOWN
ON EXHIBITS A AND B ATTACHED HERETO AND MADE A PART HEREOF;
AND BY MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT MAP,
MADE A PART OF THE SAID ORDINANCE N0, 6871 BY REFERENCE AND
DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III, SECTION 2 THEREOF; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; AND
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; SUBJECT TO FURTHER TERMS
AND CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH HEREIN
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Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by CoMtnissionet
Reboso and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
Mr. Lloyd: So the commission will understand, that is a map that
has to be changed, so that will be changed by the second reading.
Mayor Ferre: And you heard the amendments, and we are voting on it
with the amendments.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton, the triangle that Commissioner Calhoun
was talking about I assume will be finalized by second reading.
Mr. Acton: Yes,
Mayor Ferre: We will pass the whole thing and its done?
Mr. Acton: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you for your patience.
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3, PERSONAL APPEARANCE - WARREN FOX, FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY
RUARD ING : S UB$TAT UN . W . 16TR AND D I X IE HIGfWAY
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Warren Fox of Florida Power & Light contacted me,if you
will recall, there is a need for clarification. Remember the sub -station at
16th Ave. and Dixie Highway?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ---
Mr. Plummer: From the intent I don't :hink it was possible for him to
draw permits and the clarification of intent of this commission, he would
like to address this commission simply to clear up the matter and I think
even the Manager would like to make a comment on it. I don't think it will
take but a minute.
Mayor Ferre: I am going to permit Mr. Fox to make his statement and
I am also going to ask later on also for Mr. Christian of the Boy Scouts,
so I respectfully request of the commission that we try to follow the schedule
agenda in the future because otherwise we make people wait. We always run later
than we should. I'll make these two exceptions, but in the future try to hold
back from doing that.
Mr, Warren Fox: Mr. Mayor thank you, honorable Mayor, and members of
the City Commission, my name is Warren Fox I am commercial manager for the
Florida Power & Light in the MIami district. We are asking for a clarification
from the commission. On October 10, 1974 the City Commission by resolution 74-1108
approved our request to expand the Natoma substation located on the north side
of S.W. 1st Avenue between S.W. 16th Avenue and 16th Court. One of the conditions
contained'in the resolution stated and I quote "reconstruct the sidewalk,
and replant shrubs and trees, if necessary on the south side of the property
in accordance with the location and standards specified by the public works
department" in order to satisfy the concern of the neighborhood to trim and thin
existing trees between the sidewalk and the street as well as provide more than
adequate lighting, ---what we propose to move the sidewalk approximately one and
a half to two feet towards the existing trees,
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Mayor Ferre: Mr. Acton you had better be listening to this. You recall,
there were softie neighbors that were concerned. You want to go one and one half
feet*
Mr. Fox: --to relocate the existing sdewalk one and a half feet, towards
the pavement where it would abut against the existing trees. The set back area
from the new sidewalk tb the enclosure would contain low profile shrubbery,
approkimately 18 inches in height. This is to afford and over come the problem
before of having shrubbery, —
Mayor Ferre: I am not following what you are telling me.
Mr. Plummer: Let me try, ---there are trees out here, this commission
said move out the sidewalk a foot and a half and put 18 inch trees over here.
What he is saying to you now is, and I think the Manager will comment on it this
because he went over and personally looked at it, that it is a shame to move the
sidewalk out a foot and half. The main concern of the owners was the security.
If you notice as you drive by there in the evening the place is now flooded with
light , so what he wants to do is to leave the remaining sidewalk and put the
trees out here. Mr. Manager will you speak to it, because you personally went
by and looked at it.
Mayor Ferre: Does everybody understand what we are talking about now.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission I went out and looked
at this personally and I think it would be a mistake to enforce them to move
the sidewalk. They have trimmed the trees and have provided additional lighting.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-307
A MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION NO. 74-1108 FOR THE PURPOSE
OF WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT OF MOVING THE SIDEWALK ON
THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY MENTIONED IN
SAID RESOLUTION
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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4, AUTHORIZE USE OF LUMMUS ISLAND AS SITE FOR SPECIAL BI-CENTENNIAL
BOY SCOUT CAMP
MAynr Ferre; At this time I would like to recognize Mr. William Christian
Director of S. Florida Scouting. Mrs. Gordon is going to address herself
to the subject.
Mrs. Gordon: By way of introduction to Mr. Christian, I have a letter
here from Mr. Ron Phillipo Scout Executive Director and it says this is to
formalize the request to confirm the desirability of Lummus Island as a Bite
for special bi-centennial Scout camp, After inspection that was made by you and
other members of the Board, and numerous discussions with with lay and professional
we would like to ask you to seek the commission's approval for our use of this
property as part of our bi-centennial celebration. It is hopeful that as part of
the Commission's actions will make it possible for us to seek the assistance of
allied City deparments for their counsel as we move into this project,
South Florida scouting has for years enjoyed a wonderful partnership with the
city , Should the Commission decide to approve this request, this will be yet
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example of your deep and sincere concern for the sound growth and developtent
of the areas young people, We look forward to hearing frottt you on this proposal.
Mayor Ferre: I s there a resolution on that?
Mrs. Gordon: I have some pictures here for the commissioners and ask
Mr. Christian if he would like to add anything to Mr. Phillippo's letter.
Mr. Christian: I was just here to asnwer any questions if the commission
had any, of me or of the project.
Mrs. Gordon: I understand Mr. Renick is in bed with the flu or he would
have been here.
Mr. Plummer: Let ask a question. I flew over that thing in the Blimp
on Sunday and it is►a lot larger than I could see from a boater's standpoint.
The only concern I have, if you use this facility how will you use access. I
understand it has to be by boat, can you use the seaport, where would come
from as the jump off point to the island?
Mr. Christian: We have been working with Admiral Wagner with the
Coast Guard and he has granted permission to leave from the Coast Guard Base
to get to the island.
Mr. Plummer: On MacArthur Causeway?
Mr. Christian: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: It will be your responsibility that you will i.nstall.all.
the necessary sanitary facilities at your expense?
Mr. Christian: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And any other expense will be incurred by you?
Mr. Christian: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: The most important thing when you vacate, as clean as
you moved in.
Mr. Christian:--cleaner,----
Mrs. Gordon:Mr. Andrews would you like to add anything from the
administration point of view.
Mr. Andrews: No, we have reviewd this and Mr. Crouch has reviewed
this with some care and we find no reason, should the commission wish, that
this not occur.
Mrs Gordon: I am a member of the Executive Council of the Boy Scouts,
Mr. Lloyd City Attorney: --it has nothing to do with you.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO, 75-308
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE USE OF LUMMUS ISLAND AS A SITE
FOR A SPECIAL BICENTENNIAL BOY SCOUT CAMP AND FLEDGING
THE COOPERATION OF THE CITY IN THIS VENTURE
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
5, VARIANCE REQUEST BOUNDARIES OF WOODLAWN CEMETARY
3275 S.W. 16 ST,
agenda.
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Mayor Ferre: What item would you like deferred?
Unidentified person: Item #7 th2 appeal of Woodlawn Park Cemetery.
Mayor Ferre:Is there anybody here on Item #7 on the 10 o'clock
Unidentified person: Yes, there are some people here.
Mayor Ferre: I am afraid we won't be able to do it then.
Unidentified person: You honor Woodlawn Park would like to ask
for deferrment on this. We notified all of the person who had appeared in
objection that we would ask for the deferrment. The reason for the deferrment
is that we have in process plans for reduction of the request which we think
would be meaningful to commission and to the people who have objected.
Mayor Ferre: I am willing to go along with that as long as it is
legal and as long as the neighbors in the area are willing to,
Mr. Lloyd: The legality is proper . It may be deferred by the will
of.the commission.
Mayor Ferre: The neighbors are here and they are entitled to state
their opinion too.
Mr. Plummer: May I suggest since items 5, 6 A & B are government uses,
I don't think there is anyone here to spaek on it. We will go ahead and go
into 7 and come back to 5.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody here on Items 5,6 A or B. If not we will take
up Item 7 next and go ahead and state your name address for the record and
see what happens.
Mr. Tom Trentham: My name is Tom Trentham attorney for Woodlawn Park
Cemetery, 1600 First Natl Bank Bldg. Miami. Woodlawn park has previously
made an application for zoning variance to allow it to build up at the
setback line, at the property line, rather than the setback, the application
plans and proposals were approved by staff at the hearing before the Planning
Board. A number of neighbors appeared and objected and the board rejected the
application. Thereafter we filed an appeal and during the period when the appeal
has been pending, Woodlawn has undertaken to reconsider, revamp and revise
substantially the plans that it had presented heretofore. We have not yet
been able to complete those plans. The do call for two major changes in the
application. One is a substantial reduction in height and a setback from the
property line, rather than being on the property line. However at this time
we have not yet been able to complete the drawings, the planning the engineering
to make it a truly and proper, and meaningful presentation to this body nor
to be able to acqu4int our neighbors with what we have. It would be a fruitless
thing to continue this appeal at this time. We would like deferrment of 2 months.
Mr, Plummer: Let me try to cut through all of this. One of the neighbors
spoke to me yesterday. Their main objection as 1 understand it, 1.4 the 0 setback..
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Mr. Plummet: Is it your intent to do anything about the 0 setback?
Mr. Trantham: Yes, sit, approximately 3 feet setback at a reduction of
about 4 ft. in height. I don't want to be held to the height reduction but
Mayor Ferre: What do
Mr. Trantham: Excuse
Mayor Ferre: What is
you aean 4 ft. height.
me, 8 feet,----3 ft. back from the property line,
the requirement under our, ---
Mr. Plummer:--20 ft.----let me say this, I'll be in favor of the deferrment
but I want to tell you right now that I think you had better start looking for
a little bit more than 3 feet. If you will look for more than 3 ft. I'll be tore
than happy to go along with the deferrment.
Mr. Plummer: We have always been, as a matter of courtesy, a person
who wishes to revise their situation, they have the opportunity .to do so.
Mayor Ferre: I want to agree with my colleague
I'll tell you now, I will not vote for anything you
ask for variance to put a 8 ft. structure either on
3 feet from the property line, when you are suppose
express my opinion now.
Mr
60 days
have to
----Mr.
by some
Wilkins
Vice -Mayor Plummer,
have that is going to
the property line or
to have 20 ft. I'll
Plummer: Mr. Mayor I'll make a troti.on for deferrment for at least
at which time they will reapply fcr a hearing but I also Mr. Mayor
bring up, and Mr. Tatum you had better get into it during the 60 days
Trantham, I am sorry, there have been some points of legality raised
of the objectors to me, and MR. City Attorney are you listening, Mr.
has raised the points of legality and I would instruct you Mr. City
Attorney to get together with this man, and who else are objectors, to clarify
the legal position so that in 60 days we don't have to say well let's defer
it again. So Mr. Mayor at this time I would move for deferrment,. the 60 days
is up to him, and that at the same time they are revising their plans that they
also straighten out any legal matters that have been raised by the objectors.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor let me ask a question. I understand your plight,
what about the people who have come.
Mayor Ferre:I am going to listen to them in a moment. I think they have
the right to be heard.
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my motion.
Mayor Ferre: I think your motion is valid, --
Mr. Plummer: ----premature,
Mayor Ferre: Premature, all right, --how many want to speak at this time.
Five, okay let's get going, we are way behind.
Mr. Jim Kay: My name is Jim Kay, I live at 3261 SW 16 Terrace. We mainly
are objecting not on grounds of change in their design, we are objecting for
other reasons and I have here. We are objecting because we feel, ----they don't
even have 20 ft. to work within their property and we feel this structure wi1.
not enhance the appearance of SW 16th Street and we also feel that in the
past they have been given other concessions and we feel they have reached
their limit on this. I'd like to give you a little history of SW 16 Street.
In 1945 the Woodlawn Cemetery platted the cemetery property. And by law they
are required to -----
Mr. Plummer: This is the very thing I was trying to avoid this morning
because we are not going to make a decision I think that you and Mr. Wilkins
should get together with the law department, raise these point that have been
raised to me, and if there is validity to them, it should be brought out, but
that is what I was trying to avoid,
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time, we are not there yet and I think
you have the sense of this commission,
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Mr Kay: All right, thank you very much.
Mr. M. L. Wilkins: My name is M.L. Wilkin, 3271 SW 16th Terrace. I am directly
behind the warehouse involved. I call it a warehouse because even cutting 8 feet
off still leaves the structure 8 feet tall. The original structure was 18 ft. 4 'i*
cut off 8 ft, you still have 10 ft. something, almost as long as a football field,
280 ft. long. 1 have a petition from the close neighbors, all the neighbors on
each side of 16th Terrace, plus the petition got out of hand, and seems every
body in Coral Gate is against it, so I have a few names on the end and if I had
taken it completely around I think I whould have had a whole catalog here because
everyone is violently against, there would be no setback. The question is and
the reason I object to a deferrment is there is no way period that they can set
it back and construct the buildig because it would be on top of present graves.
So 1 can't see any reason for ceferrment. If they build it on the line, I refuse
to call it property line because I don't believe it is legal. If it is set back
20 ft. from the line, they can't build it like I said. If they build it on the
line it is not going to be admissible to us under any consideration. I have some
pictures I want to leave with you too to show that the projected sidewalks on
16th Street, how they already go out into the main stream of traffic on 16th
Street, not the exact road but the main highway. If this building is built,
theoretically, if this sidewalk is extended it would go right through the
middle of it. I think it is illegal, not only the 10 ft. but I believe it
would get into the 20 ft. they should be set back. In other words, without
taking too much time, we are against any form of variance from and R-1,
everyone in the neighborhood wants it to remain R-1, that is the reason we
bought there.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, next speaker. Let the record reflect that the
petition has been turned into the Clerk.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Wilkins you will contact the City Attorney.
Mrs. Aaron Segal: My name is Mrs. Aaron Segal I reside at 3290 S.W. 16 Terrace
----I can only say from an intangible point of view that the neighbors very
much against this. There is enough noise 'Jouncing back from SW 16 Street into
our neighborhood and if you put up this structure right on the lot line you
are going to get all that noice bounced back into the neighborhood. That isn't
much more to say right now unless you intend to go into this more fully. If it
is going to be deferred we might as well save our objections to the next time.
Rev Gibson: Sir, is there anywhere else you could build what you want
to build . You have no other property.
Mr. Trantham: No, sir, this is not the thrust of the request. I would
be misleading you if I said there is no other place that anything can be
built within the confines of the cemetery. This is an attempt to utilize
space for a proper purpose, for the maximum benefit of the community and
of Woodlawn, and we would like an opportunity to present to you a plan, and
also present to the neighbors a plan which I think will answer a number of
their objections.
Mayor Ferre: You are entitled to that. I have no objections to that
provided you understand that this commission as I read the sense, is not
going to vote for any type of a structure either on the property line or
anywhere near it. If what the gentleman said is true, that if you go back
20 ft. you are on the graves, I think you have a problem.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor let me, so he may answer yours and mine. I went
to look at the cemetery. The cemetery is Plummer's business, but taking the
people there is mine. I look at the land itself and when you come back I
want you to answer this for me. I look at the land itself and I am disturbed
about where you are going to put the building, ---okay, these are the graves
here, and this is the street here. That is a public thoroughfare, right-of-way,
how much land do you have from this string of graves in your property to this
sidewalk that makes building possible and if you are going to take that body
there, how are you going to get it in there. I think you had better keep
that in mind.
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Mr. Trantham: All right, sir, thank you. We shall keep that in mind
and be prepared to explain and demonstrate.
Thereupon a motion to defer the matter for 60 days was introduced
Mr, Plummer, seconded by Rev. Gibson and was pa.:sed and adopted by a
unanimous "vote of the Commission.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor may I for convenience request that the objectors
.who wish to question the legality of certain items be told to call my office.
Mr. Anderson at 377-5511,
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell what I would like better than that, why don't
you take a piece of paper and write your names and telephone numbers down
so that when you call Mr. Anderson he will be expecting to hear from you.
So if you will give.it to the Clerk, right here, he will make it available
mama am ear.
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N.W. 2 & 3 I\VES . AND N , W , 3 & 5 STREETS
6. CHANGE OF ZONING
INITIATED BY PLANNING DEPT,
Mayor Ferre: Now let's take up Item #5. There is one objection.
Mr. Plummer: Any objectors present? None? I'll move it, ----
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY CHANGING THE
ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON AREA BOUNDED BY N.W. 2ND AND 3RD AVENUES,
AND N.W. 3RD AND 5TH STREETS, BLOCKS 75NAND 88N, MIAMI (B-41),
FROM C-4 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND R-4 (MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIPLE) TO
GU (GOVERNMENT USE), AND BY MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE
ZONING DISTRICT MAP, MADE A PART OF THE SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871,
BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III, SECTION 2
THEREOF; BY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR
PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
CHANGE OF ZONING
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S.uF N,W, 20 ST BETWEEN N,W, 12 & 14 AVENUES
f1IAMI MUNICIPAL TRACT 41E UNPLATTED
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager my only concern here is that this property
as (understand, that there is going to be a new fire station. The remaining
portion or some parts of this are going to be taken over by Metro Dade County
Which is the incinerator. What arrangements are we making for negotiations of
compensation, rather an exchange of property, monetary consideration and is
that going to be effective by the change of zoning from what It is presently
to 4 GU classification
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Mt. Andrewst It should not affect the zoning.
Mayor Ferret He didn't ask you that. He said it will affect the price.
Mr. Andrews: Well Mr. Mayor and members of the commission this area
of selling or granting the property to Dade County for this purpose, if we
sell the property to Dade County it is going to come back to us in our
costs. We are going to have to pay for the materials that are put into this
plant and it is going to be solely devoted to the City of Miami, so we ate
weighing this whether it is wise to try to receive compensation and turn
around through the general fund then to provide the payment of this through
the fees that have to be assessed. It may not be a wise thing to do.
Mr. Plummer: I'll go along with you, I'll move it,
Mayor Ferre:I'll tell you, I have the same misgivings and I sure hope
as you proceed on this,that means the City of Miami, and that means the taxpayers
of this city continually are giving away city property to Metropolitan Dade
County which are not necessarily the same people. )nly one -quarter of the
Dade County is the City of Miami yet we are always giving them property
and giving them this and what we are giving away is the
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I want to assure
you that I am very conscious of this, extremely conscious and sensitive to
this area.
Mayor Ferre: I think it is a question of justice and what is right,
Mr. Andrews: ----what can end up in this proposal and you would receive
compensation for it, but we would turn right around and funds truly could
be used somewhere else to acquire property or do something else with it,
but in essence what you would be doing is purchasing that property through
the general fund operation, a portion of which is tax and portions of it
which are other forms of revenue, because they will assess us a fee and
the savings that will be created in the whole sanitation operation, a portion
of that is off -set by the fees that we are going to have to pay per ton to
dump there. So we are shifting.
Mayor Ferre: That is fine provided there is some good faith involved.
You know what happens is, the fees go in and 6 months later ,or a year later,
some bureaucrat over at Metro decides the fees have to go up now, so the
people of Miami end up paying more for it plus you have given the land
away. So I am beginning to get a little bit cynical about it.
Rev. Gibson: And we end up paying twice too. I think there has to be
some adjustments in these take-overs, I really getting up -tight.
Mayor Ferre: I'd rather get it now and let tomorrow take are of
itself. You know what happens, we are go in good faith, we give them
the property, that property worth a couple of million dollars, and the
next thing you know is, we it the wrong way.
Mr. Plummer: Paul I don't want to in any way impede the building
of this new fire station which is the B portion. What is existing there now
in zoning, can we build the fire station.
Mr. Andrews:We would have to come in and get a
take this action on the whole tract, as we have been
I recommend we treat the whole tract the way we were
and then adopt No. B and we won't have that problem.
going to have to come back in a special
change, if you don't
doing in the past and
planning to treat it here
But if you don't we are
Mr. Plummer: Is the final approval of the negotiation between Miami
and Metro on this property still subject to final approval by this commission?
Mr. Andrews; Yes,---
Mr, Plummer: Then I have no qualms about it. I' 11 move 6A,
Mayor Ferre; There is a motion and second, call the roll,
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE
ZONING CLASSIFICA"'ION ON PROPERTY SOUTH OF N.W. 20th STREET,
BETWEEN N.W. 12TH AND 14TH AVENUES, BEING NW 1/4 OF NE 1/4
OF NW 1/4 LESS N 35' OF SECTION 35, TOWNSHIP 53S, RANGE 41E
UNPLATTED, AND TRACT "A" MIAMI MUNICIPAL TRACT (51-84) FROM R-C
(RESIDENCE OFFICE) TO GU (GOVERNMENT USE), AND BY MAKING THE
NECESSARY CHANGES .IN THE ZONING DISTRICT MAP, MADE A PART OF THE
SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871, BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE
III, SECTION 2 THEREOF; BY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS
OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Gordon and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
8. APPROVE CONSTRUCTION OF FLRE STATION NO. 5-1200 N.V. 20TH STREET:
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-309
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION
NO. 5 AS PER PLANS ON FILE ON APPROXIMATELY 1200 N.W 20TH STREET,
BEING PORTION OF MIAMI MUNICIPAL TRACT (51-84) AS PROVIDED IN
ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXI-2, SECTION 3(1), ZONED R-C
(RESIDENCE OFFICE) PROPOSED TO BE REZONED GU (GOVERNMENT USE), SUBJECT
TO APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF THE LANDSCAPING AND
FENCING.
(Here follows bo'y of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. NOES: None
9, REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO
UBMLT PQSITLQN PAPER$:
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FIRE BOAT (FIRE APPARATUS)
240' SNORKEL
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor if I can at this time, in this same vein, I would
like to make a motion, and I have discussed this with the Manager•and the
Fire Chief, budget time is around the corner, I would like to see the City
Manager draw up a position paper as soon as possible so that we can give
a fair evaluation at budget time on two items I think this town could•well
afford to have within its firefighting forces. No l I would like to propose
that the Manager develop a position paper on a fire boat, No. 2 I would like
the Manager to draw up a position paper in reference to the new 240 ft, snorkie
which would be capable of high-rise building problems from the fire aspect and
I would like to make a motion at this time so it can be developed and this
coMmiasion can treat it appropriately so at budget time. I make that in the
form of a motion.
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Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the motion?
Mr. Reboso: I second the motion.
Thereupon the above motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer,
seconded by Mr. Reboso and was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote
of the Commission and designated Motion No. 75-310.
Mayor Ferre: I would like to take this opportunity to make a comment,
an observation I'd like to share with you. You know, I am very proud to
serve on this commission, and one of the reasons why is. that we have such
a well balanced commission, who have a diversity of interests. Rose Gordon
for example has really done a tremendous amount of work and has led the
fight in so many of the human and social services of the City. We have
8 Day Care centers, we have Senior Centers now that are beginning to take
care of some of the needs of our senior citizens, and we are really doing
a lot of work for the rehabilitation for example, with prisoners, in Coconut
Grove, through Elizabeth Virrick. We have a boxing program, which is helping
a•_1ot of the youth of our community, and ;iany other such social -services type
programs. 0n the other hand, is very concerned and very involved with our Fire
Department which happens to be the best in the country, he is very involved with
the police department, they both are involved in many activities, for example
like the pension, a variety of human interests.
Commissioner Reboso and Father Gibson are also involved in a variety of
programs. We have a commission that is vitally aware of the needs of different
segments of the community, and that doesn't mean that Father Gibson for example
doesn't take an interest in the fire department. He does. We all take an interest
in our variety of governmental of services. I think it particularly encouraging
to me to see people as well informed as we have on this commission involving them-
selves in different aspects of city government.
I just wanted to share that thought with you.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you for the compliments.
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GRANT APPROVAL OF SIrE 2800 S. W, 22 AVENUE
10, AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PUBLIC PARK
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tiayor r'erret tte're on the 31 O'Clock agenda, we're catching up a little bit
now. We'll take up Item 8 (a) which is approximately 2800 S.W. 22nd Avenue.
There were 12 objections. The planning Department recor ended approval, the
Planning Advisory Board by a vote of 5 to 2 vote recommended approval of site
and of the development plan.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, if I may interrupt you
before you get really involved in this and other items associated with this
you should be aware that at the conclusion of the last meeting when this matter
was heard you asked that the Director of Parks and Recreation meet with the
people in the community to resolve the various problems with reference to the
development of the park; whether we'd have a high or a low fence, shrubbery,
lighting and other matters. This was accomplished and we have a new plan that
generally meets the approval of the community. So with that understanding,
and Mr. Howard is here; I said generally.
Mr. Plunsner: Mr. Andrews, one of the neighbors, 'I don't know whether it was
for or against called me and 1 think made a. very valid point. Is it anywhere
in this proposed plan of restroom facilities?
Mr. Andrews: I don't think so.
Mr. Plummer: There is not. That's a shame. Ok, go ahead.
Mr. Bob Taylor, 2053 Seeoffec Street: Mr. Mayor and commission, I represent
all of these people here on this side basically and I'll speak for them. We've
had several meetings that: we put about10 hours of our time into this approx-
imately in meetings and gone out and canvassed the neighborhood and done some
deep thinking on this thing. We wou1rl like to just appeal to you and go over
our plan on this thing and see what you think about it. First of all this map
right here shows the general vicinity of the proposed playground. Right here
if you'd like to pass it ar-eund is the people that have been canvassed at this
time. The area shown in r. edit. this point = : re 1 eople who we have contacted that
are (1) in favor of a park, however, :.efinitely opposed to a playground facil-
ity as it was initially proposed. Nnw as you can see, the area in red right
there that's a good 1epicsentation of the people who will be directly affected
by this proposed playgrounu. So basically to summarize it in real short form
here's what we're going to propose. (1) An essential point is that we're all
in favor of a park there. However, definitely proposed to a playground.based
on several reasons. #rl the people that were directly adjoining this park have
some drawbacks in the affect that the noise is created by different equipment
put in there. #2, And 1 think you all being business people could understand
this; that you've got a residential :maize lot that has been proposed to put
$65,000 plus into playground equipment that's not counting upkeep, not count-
ing toilet facilities or proper supervision at the last meeting. What we'd
like to propose is an alternative; fine, we'd like a park in the neighborhood,
a low cost park with shrubbery, several benches and have the city take the 50,
60, 70 thousand dollars and use it where it is needed.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anybody that disagrees with what has been said? Alright.
Mr. Wayne Allen: Mr. Mayor, members of the commission, I think there is several
things kind of being lost here in the shuffle. First of all this children's park
proposal was part of the Coconut Grove Planning Study which you are voting on
here today in various zoning matters.
Mayor Ferre: That may be, but that doesn't necessarily make it right.
Mr. Allen: I'm not saying that makes it right, Mr. Mayor. It also was part of
the Parks for People Program which I am the chairman for the committee for this
Coconut Grove area and we had hearings, several meetings of the committee itself
where the public came and spoke and this park was one of the recommendations made
by this committee. Now if you don't vote in favor of this park I think you're
saying to your whole Parks for People Program very frankly was a fraud upon the
people of this community who came in good faith to that hearing and made a repre-
sentaton to this commission which was requested,..
Mr. Plummer: I can't agree with that because obviously these people that are
here don't agree with it.
Mr: Allen; Well obviously they weren't interested enough to participate,
Mt. Plummer: I'm not disagreeing with that...
Mr. Andrews: ...placed upon the commission and the city in its entirety.
This project was not included in the Parks for People Fond Program. It was
added in after the task force became involved...
Mt. Plummer: Let's go back to the nitty gritty. You know when that fire
station was torn down I remember well that Mel Reese came before this commis-
sion with a proposal to sell that property and let it be developed into two
family homes. Ok? So let's get the record straight. There was never from
the inception when the fire station was torn down for it to be a park. There
was even bids and bids were received that that was to be split up into two. lots
and it was to be sold. so -let's get the story straight.
Mr. Andrews: And with the reservation that there be a deed restriction as far
as that large banyan tree to protect that because people were par:icularly inter-
ested...
Mayor Terre: That's why, and I hope you don't misunderstand but that's why,
and it isn't that 1 resent the categorization that this is a subtrefuge of the
intent because that's in my opinio not the case. (1) It was not part of the
bond issue. (2) These people who are the immediate neighbors also have rights
as citizens and taxpayers of this community and just because they did not become
involved in the process before does not disenfranchise them from the right to
express their opinion today. Now I'm not saying what is going to come out of
all of this but I for one think that they certainly have rights that we have to
recognize too.
Mr. Andrews: And the other thing that I want to indicate is that the Commission
in my judgement was completely responsive to the people in the neighborhood by
changing their position and stopping the action of the sale of this property to
examine the potentiality of putting a park In. Now you're faced with a whole
new set of facts and new criteria and if th.s continues to pose a problem where
the community is so di -sided as to what is needed here I'm going to recommend to
the commission that we. go back to the original proposal of selling this property
and developing
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, I don't want to interrupt you but I'm saying to you
that your recommendation is totally out of order I think at this time. You just
heard the persons here who said that they are not opposed to a park and I think
that your recommendation shouldn't even be brought into the records at this time
along those lines. Now, I'm going to speak for my personal feelings. I can
think ladies and gentlemen, of no finer no better use for this particular piece
of land which is unique in itself because it is.a. mini -park in a residential
area where people are living than to accomodate these young people who would be
of necessity on the streets. I don't mean the ball playing young people. I'm
talking about the younger children who need a slide and who need a little merry-
go-round, who need the passive kind of children's playground equipment that does
not make noise and 1 personally am strongly in favor of the use as it is delin-
eated here through the department and through the task force that studied this
for so long. And one thing I'd be violently opposed to is the Manager's comment
that he just started to make.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody else want to make a statement on the commission? If not
I'm going to... I want to express my opinion and here's what it is. I think
(1) that we should not sell this property and turn it into a residential lots.
I would be totally opposed tc that.
Mr. Plummer: I agree.
Mayor Ferre: (2) I think that a park should be developed there. (3) I person-
ally don't think that it ought to be a children's lot for this reason and I
want to explain to you why. I want to tell you what the logic of it is. There
are people that live surrounding that park and they also have basic rights to
live in their homes in peace. Now obviously children are children. You can't
and there are no hedges that are going to be able to ... Now I would like to
recommend this compromise, Mr. Andrews. I do think that that area does need
some sort of specifically children's recreational area. I would like to say
this - Kennedy Park is but a few hundred feet away and I certainly think that
what we ought to do is take the very same design that we have or a similar
design and actually fence off or put hedges, if you will, or make it a separate
area so it will be strictly a children's play area that will be demarked so
that people can go into that, I don't know how many acres of land we have there
but, How many acres do we have there?
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Mts. Gordon: It's a vast area and very underdeveloped.
Mayor Ferte: Kennedy Park, what is it, 50 acres? Twenty-four acres, Ok, t'd
like to take a partof that park no larger than this or maybe somewhat in that
ditsettsion and make it specifically into a young tots with swings and all the
little different things that these kids like to jump and play on and ear mark it
specifically for that use and leave this be just a green area where everybody
can Use it, the children, the older people, the residents but nct specifically
earmarked for a children's playground.
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Mayor, may I make some observations? I brought before this
ctstttnission's attention the possible acquisition of the old church property at
22nd Avenue and Dixie Highway. I'm more convinced today than I was then tha.:
the city has got to acquire that property. Mr. Mayor, my only concern of what
you have proposed; I agree completely that this should remain a park; I agree
completely thatit should be a passive park with benches where people can come
sit and enjoy the greenery and to that extent. But where I have opposition,
Mr. Mayor is the fact that if you bring the children from this ne..ghborhood to
Kennedy P&rk the dangers involved of c;rossiny S. Bayshore Drive eve great and I
could not go along with such. I don't think that the pattern that we have seen
develop in Kennedy Park whether we agreo or disagree that it's a good pattern or
a bad is really the pattern that we would want small children to be involved in.
I am well aware, Mr. t•ayor, that the price of property today is high and I'm sure
that the church property would be high. I'm sure that the buildings that exist
there are in need of repair but Mr. Mayor, I think if you would not keep your
thoughts to just this as it is outlined in front of you but try to conceive the
fact of more people or how many people could he served with not only a children's
park but a community center from 22nd Avenue and Dixie Highway rather than from
the Kennedy Park which alreaey exists. And Mr. Mayor, for one I would like to
see the children's park in 22nd Avenue and nixie Highway; it has a community
center and as far as I'm concerned the sooner that this city acquires that piece
of property the better I'm going to like it and. I think the community will benefit
by it.
Mayor Ferre: I repeat, an.2 I would gladly .rand corrected if we had an alternate
site and I recognize the problem of crossing S. Bayshore Drive but I want to
point out to you that the traffic along that street is not quite as bad as South
Bayshore Drive but it certainly is no off -the -beaten -path residential street
because I use that street all the time to get up to U.S. 1 and to get onto the
expressway and a lot of other people do the same thing. So to say that this is
a safe little quiet street where children won't have any problems of being run
over is just absurd.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I didn't mean to infer that.
Mayor Ferre: Ycu haven't but others have.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, there's not only one dangerous street there's two.
Tigertail in the afternoon has become a speedway and not only is Bayshore Drive
and Tigertail is bad and 22nd Avenue; but they're not as bad as S. Bayshore
Drive which I just consider to be an atrocious situation.
Mayor Ferre: No question about that but the point is this. I think we have
two conflicting problems that we're trying to solve both of them with one shot
and we can't do it and the problem is I think everybody has agreed that that
property should become a park and now the question is to finding what kind of
a park it should be. Now my personal opinion is that it should not be a highly
intense park because it is surrounded by houses. Now, then comes the second
question, well what then are you going to service the children in that area
who are entitled to parks and what I'm saying is then we should find another
site within the neighborhood within the vicinity where we can put children's
play things where they can play. It shouldn't be here in my opinion. If we
could get that park that Plummer is talking about that land and we can find
the money to do it, fine. If we can't then I think we should do it in Kennedy
Park and the reason is this; that Kennedy Park should serve a lot more than
just two blocks or three blocks of people who own homes. It should serve the
whole Bayshore Drive area and it should serve all of the citizens of Bayshore
Drive - black, white, old, young, children - everything. That park isn't just
for the middle aged to go and run off a couple of pounds like Plummer and 1
should do once in a while, I mean this should be for children and older people
who want to go and sit on the benches too.
Mrs. Gordon; Mr. Allen, you were the chairman of the task force and I therefore
would like to ask you tr, comment on the Mayor's recommendation of a child's park
in Kennedy Park.
29 APR10197
Mr. Allen: I have several observations on this point. One I think Mr. PlMMef
has correctly pointed out the dangers in crossing both Tigertail and South
Sayshore br..ve. (2) This city has had under consideration as I understand it
for tiffany years the desirability of developing neighborhood children& parks,
This really was going to be probably the first example and sotething which
would lead the city in the future. (3) The people who are here objecting last
tiflei sO a bf their major objections were that if a park was there it would
attract undesirables and cause an increase in crime in the neighborhood. We
pointed out and 1 think anybody can logically see this that a pErk which is
specifically designed only for small children with small children's facilities
would not attract older children and undesirables. So I think if you turn it
into a passive park the very things that they're concerned with will develop.
And this is something which I just wander. if they've really thought this
through. Now the Kennedy Perk very frankly I've personally had a bad exper-,
ience with my wife down there with our children, and I'm speaking from exper-
ience on this. Kennedy Park attracts adults, older children and if you put a
children's facility in there you're a(:'ing Lo have older children and adults
there and I think you're going to have a much more serious problem than you
would if you pur it in this location. But I think all of these tnings should
be taken into consideration. I certainly think these people do hive a right to
come down here and petition the commission and I'm very sorry that they didn't
come down to the Parks for People hearings; I'm very sorry that they didn't
come down when it was before the conanission as a part of the Coconut Grove
Planning Study. Now that certainly doesn't give them a right to, or it doesn't
prevent them from coming down here before the commission today and I didn't
mean to indicate that if you thought I did, Mayor. Their map is very interest-
ing because prior to the first time when this came before the City Commission
as part of the Coconut Grove Planning Study and as part of the Parks for People
Program I personally was another member of the Committee from Tigertail Assoc-
iation who had worked on thie, plan and had developed the plan, went and visited
not all, but we tried to cover as many of the houses directly abutting it as we
could. Now I think it is very prominent that the gentleman who lives directly
across the street from it is not obietinq Lo it. They've colored in red now
all of the houses that we contacted in that one evening, about 5 people and
I've got their names in my file here and we discussed the plan and there were
questions about sucurit:y and so forth but r.-,ne of them cai,te out and said they
were opposed to the park and they certainty•didn't want a park built there.
So that is why this committee has gone ahead and that's why it was made a
part of the Recommendation of the Parks for People to the city. You know there
has been a lot of activity now on it and I know it is a difficult decision for
the commission but I'd just like in closing to remind the commission that at
the last hearing the commission did vote to rezone the property to Parks Recreat-
ional and the discussion was,the direction was from the commission to the opponents
and the proponents to go to the Parks Director, have a meeting and discuss those
three or four items there seemed to be some contest about. Now the one person
noone has really heard from here and I think it is really relevant is the Parks
Director; this professional representing the city, I'd kind of like to hear what
his recommendaion is and what his feeling is and whether it is a good idea or a
bad idea.
Mr. Plummer: I would also like you to speak which you didn't do to what your
ideas are on 22nd Avenue and Dixie, the old church proeprty.
Mr. Allen: I think it is an excellent idea if the city purchases it. I also
realize that looking at the overall picture there is quite a bit of park prop-
erty in Coconut Grove and quite frankly I just wonder whether the voters would
stand for the city purchasing it.
Mayor Ferre: Let me say that I agree with just about everything you said ex-
cept for one thing. The one thing is that the access, you know you're saying
this but you know you're talking about access by the immediate neighbors. How
about if I lived four or five blocks down, and I've got a young child. Then
my access with my child would be encumbered by the same traffic hazards as if
you were going to Kennedy Park. See, I'm not saying that this is as bad as
Kennedy Park... Nobody would argue that.
Mr. Allen: There's a very small percentage of houses between Tigertail and
South Bayshore...
Mayor Ferre: There's nothing worse than crossing South Hayshore Drive to get
to Kennedy Park. I recognize that. I also recognize that Kennedy Park attracts
all kinds of people, young, old and what have you and that this would be strictly
for the children; I recognize all of that and I recognize the problems. What I'm
talking about is actually fencing off and cutting off, Mr, Andrews, a special area
30 APR 101975
that would be strictly for children. Now I know for example that in Central
Park in New York I've seen tl.at. They have an area where they have swings
And what have you and they've got a fence around it and these little kids go
in there and they play and that's their part of the park and I see nothing
wrong with that. Now getting back to the point. You know there ate two
theories on democracy; one is that elected people like ourselves have to rep-
resent the will of the people that they're elected by. There is a conflicting
theory which is very prevalent in the democ:ati.c world which I guess was put
down by Burke and that is that a man has to..vote his conscience, that he is
elected to vote what he thinks is right and what he thinks is wrong. Now
I don't think there is a contradiction between those two because I think
each case has to be done individually. Now in some cases we vote what we
think is the will of the people. In other cases we vote what we think is
right because if we didn't do that then I think we really wouldn't be living
up to our charge. Now in this case I happen to feel that their neighborhood,
and I assume these maps are accurate that they're honest that the red areas
represent the immediate neighbors don't: want a children's park, the ones that
are marked out in red. Now that's their will. Now I wouldn't, and I want to
tell this very openly and frankly; there are tines when I would vote against
what everybody in the neighborhood want if 'I think that the greater need of
the community is being served, what is good for society as a whole. Sometimes
you know a little neighborhood doesn't want something but it is good for the
city and we have to vote for it. Like for example sewage improvements, we get
all of the time people here, "I don't want to be assessed another couple hundred
dollars for sewer assessment. But it is for the good of the city and we have
to do it. We don't want to do it but we have to overrule what the neighborhood
wants. In this case I don't see that conflict because I really think that even
if these people weren't protesting it I think that that particular piece of prop-
erty should be since it's in the middle of a residential area a passive form of
a park. I think that active parks should be in areas that don't encroach upon
residential areas. Now then you say how can you have childrens' parks? We're
going to have to be very careful as to where we put them.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, would you ask Mr. Howard to comment?
Mayor Ferre: Al Howard, if you would, please.
Mr. Al Howard: Going back on the park, it wasn't in the bond program but after
the meetings of the tast forces for Parks for People bond programs they made
this recommendation which we have evaluated. We've made an urban study of the
number of children there and we found that there were 980 children below the age
of 9 in that particular area within a half mile radius. We took into consider-
ation that the closest parks really for children were Shennandoah which they have
to go across the main highway or Blanche and Kirk Monroe which is quite a distance
away and to the east was only Kennedy and that was not really planned for a child-
ren's park. Now we met with the people last week, quite understanding their feel-
ings and their positions and we did agree to screen it so they would not see the
park with hedging inside the fencing. The playground equipment will be quite
imaginative. There will be no moving parts. The swings will be simulated very
similar to what you see at our day care centers with tires they climb through
with small climbing devices that are attractive and the children really it capt-
ures there imagination. There will not be chains swinging or making noise dur-
ing the night. We have agreed that we will put supervision in the park, we will
have a recreation person there, we will have a park tender there...
Mayor Ferre: And you will guarantee that the children won't make any noise then,
is that right, Mr. Howard?
Mr. Howard: Well, I'm not a matron but I think when they're having fun like
you and I...
Mayor Ferre: I mean the swings aren't going to make any noise but neither are
the children.
Mr. Howard; I would rather hear the happy voices of children playing in a semi -
active park than to have somebody screaming in a passive park because nobody is
there and I think I could take those noises. I think these people living there
have a very good objection but we have agreed that we will try and make this
park aesthetic, attractive to the neighborhood that not only will children go
in there but we were going to have a kiosk for senior citizens to sit there
or elderly people, some benches perhaps a chess table if they like to play...
Mayor Ferre: Now wait a minute. Now we're contradicting because we said that
this was going to be strictly for children... We don't want the elements of
older people 3n there.
31 APR 1 0 1975
Mrs toward: In the original plan before it's been revised four or five times
We did have a front area with a kiosk for senior citizens to sit. Now then
they came back and told us, "Well, you're q'oing to have to put parking spaces
in there" which now has been resolved. So it wouldn't be completely used by
children. Primarily we hoped the children would come in there. There is a
demand in the area. There is 980 children below the age of 9 and the park will
be Made to accompany everybody and to keep the noise down as much as possible.
Our parks are not open past 10 O'Clock; very rarely do we get young children
in a park past 7 O'Clock. So I don't think in the evenings that they're going
to be disturbed that much. And again, when we have supervision there I think
this will minimize any problems that we may have.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Howard, I'm going to hold'you to that. You know you say your
parks are not open beyond 10 O'Clock; two weeks ago I instructed, I'm sorry, we
asked the Manager to take care of the same problems that are now existing in
Merrie Christmas Park. Now I would hate to tell you the number of complaints
that have come in after 10 O'Clock at night by the adjoining neighbors at Merrie
Christmas Park. Mr. Andrews, I'm going to go on record once again and tell you
that those neighbors are being subjected unduly to harrassment after 10 O'Clock
and I'm going to tell you it's got to stop. Now I don't know what you've got
to do but those neighbors who are taxpayers of this community are not deserving
of what they're getting there after 10 O'Clock.
Mayor Ferre: I'd like to respectfully ask that we all now get into the quick
strokes because it is•11:35 and we have Mr. Ted Pappas who is here to receive
a presentation and that's item 12, we're still on item 8. We really have to
move very quickly.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I would like to bring this to a head. I would like to
comment first that bicycles are becoming a mode of transportation instead of the
car in Coconut Grove today and many parents are traveling through the Grove with
children on their bicycles in special bicycle seats and so that kind of answers
one of your concerns with the car. The second is the closing of the park at 10:00.
In a child's park I think it could close at 7:00. I don't think it needs to be
kept open until 10:00. However, if it is possible to treat one park differently
than another I'm not sure of the legality of that.
Mr. Lloyd: That is possible.
Mrs. Gordon: All right. I would therefore move that item number 8 (a) be
approved with the following stipulations: That the park be closed at 7 O'Clock
and that the matters of attendant on premises be a part of this approval and the
other items that Mr. Howard delineated be included.
Mr. Reboso: I second the motion, Mr. Mayor. That is with the provision that
the park will be closed at 7:00 O'Clock. Right? Yes, the children's park.
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Mayor, under discussion even though I will oppose the motion
I have great concern for the overall items that were spelled out and I think it
is a must in case this motion passed: (1) There will be at all times a full time
supervisor, there will be a fence and landscaping of adequate size and nature to
stop any noise. I think bathroom facilities must be placed on this park. What
were the other concerns? You've rot to put bathroom facilities, Paul. You can't
put a park there for people to play in without a bathroom and I sure don't want
to see another $60,000 john like we've got down here - $7,000 a seat.
Mayor Ferre; A11 right, will you accept those in your motion?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, I would. One of the ladies just asked me if she could just
make a brief statement. She's a mother representing children and so in the broad
contest could we hear a word for her, please?
Mayor Ferre; Well, if we do that then I'm going to have to recognize the other
people who want to spsak so I'll do that but this gentleman was up first so we'll
recognize him for a very brief statement and then I'll recognize you and then you.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: My point Mr. Plummer pretty well covered. It's due to the
sanitary priviledges there. Without sanitary provisions this is going to be a
nuisance, One person's home is within just a very few feet of the border. I...
Mayor Ferre; Well, I personally agree with that. I think if it is going to be
an active park with children in it it should have a place where they can go to
the bathroom.
32 APR 1 um
•
Mrs. Gordon: And that this facility should be locked when the park is locked
so that it should not be a place for...
Mayor Ferret These are all a part of the provisions that you're stipulating?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, I'm putting all the precautions in there.
Mrs. Carolyn Gold: Thank you very much, I'm Carolyn Gold. I live on Abaco
Avenue which is a few blocks in from this proposed childrens park. Two points
I'd like to make: (1) That I feel that there should be a small neighborhood
park is because putting it in Kennedy Park means that there is a mu:h greater
distance to be covered, you have to get into your car...
Mayor Ferre: By you.
Mrs. Gold: By a lot of people in my neighborhood. There are a lot of children
there. It is much easier to walk with a stroller and walk over to a childrens
Park. There is only the one traffic street which is 22nd which is minimal coin -
pared to Bayshore and Tigertail. Also, most children who are under the age of
7 would be accompanied by their parent which means that there would be super-
vision at this park at all times, that older children that show up, I think
mothers would be very protective of their young. Also the second reason that
I feel this should be just limited as a children's park, a small children's
park is because when I've taken my children over to larger parks such as Mac
Farlane Park there is a very undesirable element there. Quite often the older
kids that are playing around with their frisbies they decide they want to go
and play on the children's equipment. They're there in the first place because
it hs all kinds of recreational facilities for older children so then they
start using the younger children's equipment which prohibits the younger child-
ren from using it and makes them rather frightened. I think there should be a
separate little park for children and for neighborhood people.
Mr. Bob Taylor: I'd just like to summarize several things to clear up some-
thing. These people right here around t.lis area, when they were first canvassed
by this other gentleman they said'yee, we'd like a park there, we all agree with
that." But now when the :item came before you last week it wasn't a park it was
a playground. Now you ask the fellow from the Parks Department would you like
another park. Well sure he'd like another park, so would the Minister of Defense
like to spend more money on defense. the said he's got 980 children in a neigh-
borhood, that's only a residential sized lot you have there and then you talke
about spending $110,000 of the city's money for a handfull of people who can walk
to a community park. I think it is absolutely so crazy I don't know why we're
standing up here talking about it. The city needs money, it's not like we have
a big bank roll to grab into to develop a small park. It is so absolutely absurd
you're acting on a motion just even thinking about it. I just wish you all would
come to your senses a while to realize we're not saying we're opposed to a park.
All we're saying is for crying out loud there are some people living right next
to it that dun't want up to 980 children in their baccyard. I think they're
entitled to that if this is what the survey shows or half that amount or a hun-
dred children say 50 on a residential lot. As you all have done sometimes too,
fine, it can be a children's park but what we're saying is don't spend $110,000
on equipment. If you've ever bought a child an expensive toy and given it to
him and he winds up playing with the box you know as it well happens; the point
being is if you can make it a children's Park they can entertain themselves -
they don't need $110,000 worth of equipment.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would just like to state in opposition to the motion
that I think we have a rare opportunity to provide something that we really can
all be proud of down on Dixie Highway. 1 think it is more appropriate and I'm
not against parks, I'm not against children, I want to do it but I want to do it
in the right way and something that we'll be proud of.
Mr. Peboso: Mr, Mayor, I qecond the motion because in the first place we have
the park already there; we have the money and besides that in my opinion children
are the only minority group that can't speak by themselves especially those under
6 years old. When the blacks have .: problem or the Latins have a problem we
have them here but in this case Iiie children of this area can't be here and I
think that now we have the money and the park we should go ahead. We don't need
only this one, we need many many more like this one.
Mrs. Gordon: 1 just have to say that Conunissianer. Reboso said what I would
have liked to have said and said it rA whole lot better. I can't think of any-
thing that we have had a chance to t.rike a position on before that is going to
affect 1st) many human lives as favorably as this will and I know that the future
will prove that we're not wrong that we're right in taking an affirmative position
at this time.
Mt. Lloyds One Moment, Mr. Mayor, if you please, your honor. It would be
appropriate to consider the resolution as drafted. Now the restrictions
which were suggested are not appropriate for this resolution due to the type;
that Would, either the City Manager may take his instruction from the recotd
as to the restrictions that administratively can be put on or if your honor
wants another resolution could be.,. If this resolution...
Mayor F'erre: I think what you do is you do it both ways, prepare a resolut-
ion for the next meeting which entails the minutes of what you were to do.
Mr, Lloyd: We can do that. Yes.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-311
A RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL OF SITE AND DEVELOPMI;NT
PLAN OF PROPOSED PARK AT APPROXIMATELY 2800 S.W. 22ND
AVENUE, S 4' OF AND ALL OP LOTS 8 AND 9, W.H. SNIPES
SUB (3-107) AS PROVIDED IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE
XVIII-1, SECTION 4 (1), SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAP-
ING PROVIDED ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES AND
BICYCLE RACKS INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN; PROP':RTY
ZONED R-1 (ONE FAMILY), PROPOSED TO BE REZONED P-R (PUB-
LIC PARK AND RECREATIONAL) DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson
NOES: Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: The motion is obviously passed since there are three votes and
of course, the simple thing for me to do is to go along with the motion but I'm
not going to do that because I really believe that as a matter of principle that
it is wrong to have this particular type of high activity in a residential area
where people have a right to live in a certain amount of peace. I'm all for a
children's park and I think that all the neighborhoods should have childrens'
parks. I have no objections to spend $110,000 but I just don't think that this
is the particular place for it. So I vote no on the motion.
34
APR I01975
99-SLIP MARINA-8 6CAYNE tAY
AM I•AN GN DEVELOPMENT CORP•
i .+ EXTEND CONDITIONAL USE 19u1 bRIUNtLL AV ��1E
APR 1975
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-312
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE CONDIT-
IONAL USE GRANTED ON THE PROPERTY AT 2333 BRICKELL AVENUE
(BRICKELL BAY CLUB) BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. ZB 167-
74, AS PER ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXXII, TO PERMIT
CONSTRUCTION OF 70-SLIP MARIAA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner. Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: Norte.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1975
12. EXTENSION OF VARIANCE M000 S.ARCELLUIS�DEARBORN17UE SUB (B-26)
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-313
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE
GRANTED ON THE PROPERTY AT 2000 S.W. 17th AVENUE BY ZONING
BOARD RESOLUTION NO. ZB 111-74.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
APR 101975
INTERIM ZONING DISTRICT
13, EXTEND FOR 6 MONTHS MIAMI-DADS GOVERNMENT CENTER
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY GOVERNMENT
CENTER INTERIM ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS;
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF
IN CONFLICT, INSO FAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING
A SEVERABILITY PROVISION; DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE
AN EMERGENCY MEASURE; DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF
READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT
LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION;
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
25 APR 101 75
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Cottflissioner
Gibson, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the foliowing vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and
seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the foliowing
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
.Commissioner (R?v.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8381.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and announced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
APR 10 1975
14, PROCLAMATIONS, PLAQUES, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION ETC,
A. Procl arcing t!v .,.;r'& of April 2n_2A, 1 c17S ac "PPAT.TOR, WRRK" , rpceivPd by
Theodore J. Pappas, President of the Miami Board of Realtors.
B. Presentation of plaque to Meyer E. Stoller, Director of the Internal Audit
Department, on his retirement after 22 years of service with the City of
Miami.
C. Presentation of Commendation to Master Sergeant Luther "Pete" Holston
for his dedicated wotk with the "Toys for Tots" program.
D. Presentation of proclamation declaring week of April leth, "Medical
Laboratory Week", accepted by Janet Grant and Murray Kitman.
E. Presentation of proclamation declaring April 17th as '*uan Ramon Molina Day"
(in Spanish), accepted by Consul General of Honduras Antonio Jose Valladeras
and Mr. Euripedes Riera.
F. Resolution commemorating the memory of Manny de Castro.
APR 101975
URGE LEGISLATURE AND APPROPRIATION COMMITTEES TO
15, DISCUSSION pRTESgAirgEORETyffpEASING
DEMANDS ON
(SEE LATER RESOLUTION)
Mr. David Mc Donald: Simply, a resolution asking that the City Commission
support increased funding for the Department of Health and Rehabilitative
Services and for the Division of Mental Health.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, Mr. Mayor, I'm familiar with this and I would so move that
we support a resolution to the state which would indicate our concern with the
possibility of a reduction in the funding for Human Resources and particularly
for mental health and that instead that we ask the legislature to see, to find
some additional funding because this is one of the most vital concerns of our
community, I move that.
Thereupon a motion introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Mr, Plummer was
passed and adopted'unanimously, tSee Motion 75-356 adopted later in meeting,)
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APR i 01975
16s ACCEPT COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION
SAN MA SANtT. SEWER
I MPROVEMENt SR.-55i6 C
Mt. PlumMer: Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak on Itettt 297
4eatind hone, m:,tion by 'ehoso, seconded by Gibson, call the roll.
The following resolution was .introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-314
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF
INTERCOUNTY CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION FOP THE CONSTRUCT-
ION OF SAN MARCO SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5216 C
(centerline sewer) AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,017,097.03;
AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $105,468,71.
(Here follows body of resolution,' omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 I WS
APR 10 1975
PUBLIC UTILA
17, ACCEPT QUIT CLAIM DEEDS ARALACI�NTS TRACT "A"
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-315
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE QUIT CLAIM DEEDS EXECUTED
BY FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT COMPANY, FLORIDA GAS COMPANY,
SOUTHERN BELL TELEPHONE & TELEGRAPH COMPANY AND MIAMI-
DADE WATER & SEWER AUTHORITY, FOR THE RELEASE OF A
PORTION OF UTILITY BASEMENTS LYING WITHIN THE BOUNDAR-
IES OF TRACT "A", MOORE PARK, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK
86, AT PAGE 45, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY,
FLORIDA, AND DIRECTING THE PROPER OFFICIAL OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI TO RECORD SAME IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE
COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
APR 101975
18. ACCEPT HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY DEED ADEMAR PARK (7-57)
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
-coved its ac?o"tion:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-316
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE HIGHWAY HtIGHT OF WAY DEED EXE-
CUTED BY TRA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ON DECEMBER 9, 1974,
CONVEYING FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES 16,358 SQUARE FEET OF UN -
PLATTED LAND CONTAINED IN A STRIP OF VARIOUS WIDTHS ALONG
THE NORTHERLY PORTION OF N.E. 83RD STREET, RUNNING EAST
FROM THE WEST LINE OF LOT 33 OF ADEMAR PARK (7-57) FOR A
DISTANCE OF 620 FEET; AND DIRECTING THE PROPER OFFICIAL
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO RECORD SAID DEED IN THE PUBLIC
RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
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AYES: Mr, Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None,
ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
19. AMEND SEC, 39-20 (F)
APR 1 19/
PROVIDE FEE TO BE 10% GROSS RECEIPTS
FROM TICKET SALES
PROFESSIONAL SOCCER EVENTS
Mr. Lloyd: One thing I'd like to mention, that we understand if ....his ordinance
is passed that the minirum(cha:ge of a thousand dollars is sufficient to meet
the minimum expenses for the protection of the Orange Bowl bondholders.
Mr. Andrews: That's right, just for these kind of events.
Mr. Lloyd: Must be under the bond indenture. That's under section 706 of the
bond indentures.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 39-20 (f) (1) OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM CHARGE
OF $1,000.00 OR 10% OF THE GROSS RECEIPTS FROM TICKET
SALES FOR PROFESSIONAL SOCCER EVENTS HELD AT THE MIAMI
ORANGE BOWL; PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH; AND FURTHER PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Reboso
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT.: Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Com-
mission and to the public.
20. FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION
APR 10 1975
RECONSTRUCTION OF RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES FOR THE HANDICAPPED
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-317
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL
ASSISTANCE FOR RE -CONSTRUCTION OF FLAGAMI AND KINLOCH
PARKS FOR HANDICAPPED PROGRAMS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and or
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
Mrs. Gordon: When the funds are made available they will be used for what speci-
fically for the handicapped? For programming or for capital improvement?
Mr, Andrews: Both but mainly for capital improvements to remove impediments to
those two parks and add in those things which will make it convenient for handi-
capped individuals to recreate and take advantage of those parks.
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AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF
2i ADDITIONAL FUNDS
710
APR 10 1975
KITCHEN CHANGES IN 3 CHILI DAY CARE
CENTERS
INCREASE SCOPE OF PANELFAB CONTiACT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, Who
Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-318
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY MAN-
AGER IN INCREASING THE SCOPE OF THE PANELFAB INTERNATION-
AL CORPORATION CONTRACT FROM $159,802.00 TO $164,245.00,
AND AUTHORIZING PAYMENT Ili THE AMOUNT OF $4,443.00 TO IN-
CORPORATE KITCHEN CHANGES IN THREE CHILD CARE CENTERS;
FURTHER AUTHORIZING AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT OF $1,724.40
FOR EXTRA WORK DUE TO ACTUAL FIELD CONDITIONS; ACCEPT-
ING TUE COMPLETED WORK OF PANELFAB INTERNATIONAL CORPOR-
ATION; AND AUTHORIZING THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO MAKE
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $22,147.60.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1975
RATIFY ACTIONS OF PURCHASE OF UNIFORMS FOR
22, CITY MANAGER
PUBLIC SERVICE AIDES
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION ND. 75-319
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER
ACCEPTING THE BID OF LAMAR UNIFORM COMPANY FOR FURNISH-
ING UNIFORMS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AIDES OF THE POLICE DEPART-
MENT'S THRESHOLD UNIT AT A TOTAL COST OF $5,347.1.6; AUTHOR-
IZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER
CITY OFFICIALS TO MAKE PAYMENT TO LAMAR UNIFORM COMPANY FOR
THESE UNIFORMS FROM UNEXPENDED FUNDS ALLOCATED IN THE LEAD
GRANT WHICH EXPIRES MARCH 31, 1975, AND FUNDS FROM THE FED-
ERAL REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 1u 1975
23, 1-YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT HARRY PEARLMAN
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-320
A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOY-
MENT PAST THE AGE OF SEVENTY-ONE FOR HARRY PEARLMAN, WATCH-
MAN, PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, EFFECTIVE ON HIS BIRTH
DATE, MAY 28, 1975 THROUGH MAY 28, 1976, WITH THE PROVISION
THAT IN THE EVENT OF A ROLLBACK OR LAYOFF, MR. PEARLMAN,
RATHER THAN A JUNIOR EMPLOYEE, WOULD BE AFFECTED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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APR 1 0 1975
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
Passed and adopted by the following vote-
AXES: Mr, Plummer, Mr, Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mrs. Gordon.
NOES: None,
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1,975
BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
24, WAIVE RENTAL FEE WUrLATJ,OANDORT EE-U,S,DISTRICT CT,
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-321
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITOR-
IUM TO THE NATURALIZATION COMMITTEE FOR NATURALIZATION
PROCEEDINGS TO BE HELD ON THE FOLLOWING DATES: APRIL 2,
1975, JUNE 4, 1975, AND AUGUST 6, 1975; SUBJECT TO ADVANCE
PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT
COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mx. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1975
25, AMUSEMENT RIDE PERMIT GESU CHURCH - 118 N,E, 2 STREET
'the follo"•'ing resolution ''aS int o'auced by Connic:,icner CP-son, '''ho
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-322
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT TO GESU
CHURCH AND SCHOOL FOR AMUSEMENT RIDES ON THE GROUNDS OF
THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL LOCATED AT 118 N. E. 2ND STREET ON
MAY 3RD AND 4TH, 1975, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDIT-
IONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1975
26, APPOINT MRS, MARTY GRAFTON - MIAMI MEMORIAL COMMITTEE
The fnllnwina recnln+inn waC int-rodured by Commissioner rihcnn, whc,
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-323
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING MRS. MARTY GRAFTON TO THE MIAMI
MEMORIAL COMMITTEE TO SERVE AN INDEFINITE TERM OF OFFICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote,-
AYES; Mrs. Gordon, Mr, Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr, Plummer,
NOES; None,
ABSENT; Mayor Ferre,
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•
APR 1975
27. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - LL OY ALVIN DORSETT & LILLIE MAE DORSETT
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-324
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO PAY TO Lc_ROY AL/IN DORSETT, BY HIS MOTHER AND
NEXT FRIEND, LILLIE MAE DORSETT, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION
OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $2500.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE
SETTLEMENT OF THEIR CLAIM AGAINST THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, AS AGREED TO IN OPEN COURT BY THE
PARTIES, THE JUDGE AND THE RESPECTIVE COUNSEL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
28. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - �A�OLJEONSTEIN,
EDGAR DIXON, L. A.
APR 10 19/5
BUSH, FELTON MAIISON
R, JERO'IE SANFORD ATTYS
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-325
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO PAY TO EDGAR DIXON, L. A. BUSH AND FELTON
MADISON, AND HAROLD BRONSTEIN AND R. JEROME SANFORD,
THEIR ATTORNEYS, THE SUM OF $1,000 IN FULL AND COMPLETE
JUDGEMENT OF $2400 AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI IN THE
COUNTY COURT, CASE NO. 74-1834-CC-05, INCLUDING THEIR
COSTS OF $662.00 IN THE ABOVE SUIT, DUE TO AN ALLEGED
FALSE ARREST IN CORAL GABLES ON FEBRUARY 22, 1971 DUR-
ING A RIOT SITUATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
29. DENY CERTAIN CLAIMS -
The following resolution *!an intrnrurefl
moved its adoption:
INSTRUCT CITY ATTORNEY TO
DEFEND
ti..
APR 10 1975
Co innioner ribson, t.'ho
RESOLUTION NO. 75-326
A RESOLUTION DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DIRECTING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO DEFEND ANY SUIT BROUGHT FOR THE RECOVERY OF
DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF SAID CLAIMS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES; Mrs, Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer,
NOES; None.
AB ENT; Mayor Ferre,
91 APR 1Q1975
t 10 1975
30 ACCEPT BID - MISCELLANEOUS TREES
The following resolution was introcuced by Commi:;signer Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-327
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID QUOTATION OF MELROSE NURSERY
AND SOILS COMPANY FOR MALAY COCONUT PALM TREES, ADONIDIA
PALM TREES AND 20' ROYAL PALM TREES; REDDISH LANDSCAPING
NURSERY FOR BLACK OLIVE AND GUMBO L'IMBO TREES; SINCLAIR
SUNSET NURSERY, INC. FOR 9' ROYAI. PALM AND 10' ROYAL
PALM TREES; AND PESTONIT NURSERY & FLOWERS, INC. FOR OAK,
CABBAGE PALM AND BOTTLE BRUSH TREES; FOR FURNISHING AND
PLANTING TREES - 1975 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS AS NEEDED TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIRE-
MENTS FOR THE CALENDAR YEPR OF 1975 SUBJECT TO THE AVAIL-
ABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
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31, ACCEPT BID - SEVEN ROTARY MOWERS
The fol 1 o'.'ing rc?sol 11.i on wac j nt-roAuced by commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-328
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS RECEIVED FROM HECTOR TURF
AND GARDEN SUPPLY CO. AT A COST OF $2,995.00 AND DE BRA
TURF AND GARDEN SUPPLY AT A COST OF $9,349.00 FOR FURNISH-
ING SEVEN (7) ROTARY MOWERS AND ONE (1) AERATOR AT A TOTAL
COST OF $12,344.00; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PUR-
CHASE ORDERS FOR THIS EQUIPMENT ALLOCATING FUNDS FROJ4 FEDERAL
REVENUE SHARING 1974-75 BUDGET PARKS AND RECREATIONAL MECH-
ANIZATION PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso and mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT; Mayor Ferre.
APR 10 1975
32, ACCEPT BID - FIRE APPARATUS
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-329
A RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIAMI FIRE
EQUIPMENT COMPANY FOR FURNISHING BREATHING APPARATUS PARTS
FOR THE RESCUE DIVISION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AT A TOTAL
COST OF $7,391,00; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MAN-
AGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A PUB-.
CHASE ORDER THEREFOR; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL
REVENUE SHARING 1974-75 BUDGET,
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the office of the City Clerk,)
42 APR 101975
Upon being seconded by CornmissionE:r Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote-
ALES: Mr. Fteboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor ?erre.
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33. ACCEPT BID - PARK BENCHES AND TABLES
The following i.ntrnriurPri by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 75-330
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING BIDS FOR FURNISHING PARTS FOR 475
PARK BENCHES AND 220 PICNIC TABLES FOR THE PARKS AND REC-
REATION DEPARTMENT, TOTALLING $51,118.14 FROM: CRAWFORD
AND ASSOCIATES AT A COST OF $11,062.50, GAME TIME, INC. AT
A COST OF $34,590.82, D.C. PAINT COMPANY AT $438.77, PLUS
LABOR COSTS OF $3,475.00 P4D ADVERTISING AT $200.00; AUTHOR-
IZING AND DIRECTING THE CICY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PUR-
CHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS MATER-
IAL, ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1972 PARK AND RECREATIONAL
DACILITIES BOND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
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34, ACCEPT BID - BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE II - 1975 SUBGRADING
The followinrr r, colfvti ofl
moved its adoption:
uaac intrnancarl
�,.. f'. m; ssione,r uehoso, ..,ho
RESOLUTION NO. 75-331
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM REDLAND CON-
STRUCTION COMPANY, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $66,950.00 FOR
THE BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE II - 1975 (Project #1 - sub -
grading); AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE A CON-
TRACT WITH SAID FIRM; FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR THIS PURPOSE
FROM PUBLIC PARKS & RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BOND FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
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APR 10 1975
35. ACCEPT tID 3 YEAR INSURANCE POLICY
FIRE, tlbSTORM, APR APR 1.019
75
VALDALISM,
MALICIOUS MISCHIEF
ETCi
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
Roved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-332
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE EslD RECEIVED FROM ALLSTATI INSUR-
ANCE COMPANY FO,t A THREE YEAR INSURANCE POLICY COVERING FIRE,
WINDSTORM AND EXTENDED COVERAGE, AND VANDALISM AND MALICIOUS
MISCHIEF ON CITY BUILDINGS AND CONTENTS THEREIN AT AN ANNUAL
RATE OF $53,675.00 COVERINt; THE PERIOD FROM APRIL 15, 1975
TO APRIL 15, 1978; AUTH(7RTZTNG AND DIRECTING THE CITY MAN-
AGER TO INSTRUCT THE PROPER CITY OF11'ICIALS TO NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT WITH ALLSTATE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the city Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer and Mr. Reboso.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
APR 101975
36, ACCEPT CHECK FROM SETTLEMENT OF ATTORNEYS FEES FOR SERVICES
TRAVELERS INS,CO, COLLAPSE OF BLEACHERS AT DINNER KEY AUDITORIUM
The following resolution was introdu,ed by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-333
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO ACCEPT CHECK OF $3500.00 FROM TRAVELERS INSUR-
ANCE COMPANY IN SETTLEMENT OF VALUE OF ATTORNEYS' FEES
FOR SERVICES RENDERED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI LAW DEPART-
MENT IN DEFENDING THE CITY IN THE LAW SUIT OF GREGALOT
ET AL. V. CITY OF MIAMI ET AL., CASE NOS. 73-18031,
73-9623, 73-5204, AND 73-19425, INVOLVING THE COLLAPSE
OF THE BLEACHERS AT DINNER KEY AUDITORIUM ON OR ABOUT
AUGUST 9, 1972.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre.
NOTE: Mayor Ferre entered the meeting at. 2:30 P.M.
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57 mibrAgp ZONING DISTRICT
ORDINANCES— APR 1019/5
APPEARANCE OF MEMBERS OF OCONUt
PUBLIC HEARING, MOVE
CHAMBER OF OMMERCE
Mayor Ferrer Take up now Item 41.3, personal appearance by members of the
Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce regarding the second reading of the follow-
ing ordinance relating to the proposed C-2A Zoning District. Now there is an
a,b,c, section to item 13.
Mr. George Acton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, this is the second
reading of the C-2A District and if the commission re2alls, at the first read-
ing there was nobody in the audience either to support the proposed ordinances
or to bring forth matters that would oppose the new ordinance. I want to go
back to the goals that were originally established in the planning study very
briefly and summarize those Eor the commission. We had said one of the goals
was to maintain and strengthen the village center and to encourage the compat-
able retail office and cultural risen within the core and phase out incompatable
uses to promote opportunities for multiple use developments that would provide
a compatabie mix of use and to establish ca Unix of open space and high density
residential uses in near the core area. Now the most important control advocat-
ed by this ordinance is to preserve the scale in dimension of those nest projects
that will be built in the future in the village core. We've done this by a ser-
ies of controls, the most important of these controls being a limitation of floor
area ratio within the village center; secondly providing a four-story height
limit. I want to direct the commission's attention to the map of the village
core that shows the type of floor area retios that presently exist in the village
core. Now we have delineated and dreamed those new structures that have been
built within the last Lwo years.; under the existing C-2 ordinance. I want to
point out to the commission that in all cases with the exception of the apartment
building on Virginia Street and Oak and the Hotel Mutiny that these new buildings
are under a floor area ratio of 1 which was done voluntarily by the developers
in the old C-2 district. We also want to, point out that Yacht Harbor in the R-C
Zoning District lying along Bayshore has a maximum intensity of 1.5; this repre-
sents the intensity of the Yacht Harbour building. We have a number of innovat-
ions in the C-2A District which were an outgrowth of the objectives and the
goals established f'or the village center. The district does encourage the pro-
vision of basically pedestrian oriented activities, to the designation of pedest-
rian streets and bonuses for developers that will provide additional pedestrian
ground level or second level open ';pace_ amenities. It's possible for a develop-
er in any size lot, for _instance, to urt to a tloor area ratio of 1.4 if he will
provide ground level open space or ;second level open space that is directly re-
lated to the objective established for this district. The second map simply
illustrates the type of development that is possible with this new district which
would allow any developer a floor ai:ea ratio of. 3.4 provided that he supply in
this development adequate interesting pedestrian ground level space. We've
shown here is that on the ground le:'el 85% of that development could be retail
space, 15% of the front could be ground level open space devoted to those uses
which are compatable with the retail uses. The second level a little more than
half of that development could be devoted to retail sales and the rest of it for
open space, pedestrian or court related activities. In our work with developers
it has been referred to many timers as similar to the kind of development that
occured at the Embarkadero or the Cannery in San Francisco where we're trying
to create these kinds or interesting interior open spaces that directly are re-
lated to retail sales but still create the kinds of retail activity and spaces
that will create a new vitality in the business core. That very simply summar-
izes the department's stand on the C-2A ordinance at this time.
Mr. Dick Dannziger: My name is Dick Dannziger, I'm President of the Coconut
Grove Chamber of Conanerce. My business address is 3036 Grand Avenue, Coconut
Grove. I wanted to state to you this morning that we as the Chamber of Com-
merce Board of Directors are in favor unanimously for a 2.0 area ratio for
the business area. We feel it is vital for the business area to progress on
this basis and this basis alone. we have seen a few new structures go up the
last two to three years and these were with no restrictions. We want to en-
courage business in our area because if we .encourage business in the only area
that really can show increase in volume tourist attraction. We feel it is
vitally necessary that we progress on this basis. For us not to progress we
go backward cause you don't stagnate, you go backward. We feel that what we
see in Coconut. Grove that is pleasant are the new buildings. These are without
any restrictions so therefore we as a Chamber, we as the Board of Directors
unanimously recommend 2.0 area ratio. Thank you.
APR 10 1975
Mr. Kenneth Treister.: My Wane is Kenneth Treister. I live at 3660 Battersea
Road in Coconut Grove and I have my office in office in the Grove on 2699 South
Bayshore Drive and T'm a member cf the Beard of Directors of the Chamber of
Commerce and also .a property owner in the C-2A District. I'd like :o sat at
the outset that this C-2A ordinance in all but one respect is an excellent
ordinance and I think the Planting Department and the city officials deserve to
be commended for this ordinance. They've worked very closely with the chamber
and with the citizens of Coconut Grove and it has been many many months that this
has evolved and it is an excellent, very vice y fine plan I think foe the develop -
merit of Coconut. Grove and we're excited .about it. We do have one very strong
objection to one part but that objection has to be seen in the light of recom-
mending approval of a thousand other things that: are in here. So the fact that
we're talking about floor area ratio we could spend hours telling how good the
other sections are and I don't think we should forget that. But we are concerned
with one point that the Planning Department and the Chamber and other citizens
can't seem to reconcile and we're asking the City Commission today to amend
this ordinance in one respect, and I'm not sure if this was an early draft or
not but on page 9, Sep~tien 8 it y: floor .-crea ratio and in subparagraph 1,
at least on this cr py, it says floors .tea ratio for non-residential uses shall
not exceed 1.0. We would like that. -hen ed t e .'.0. Now first of all 2.0 is
now the limit in (2o onut. C:rove now. ';here has been some new development in
Coconut Grove but very very .ii t ele . In t ho last few years only one or two
buildings have been built. With the present law of 2.0 they happen to be beauti-
ful buildings; one is the buiidine which houses the Kaleidescope and there are
some others on Commodore Plaza. They're teaming with excitement, with good food,
with good merchandise and they' to very coipat.:able with the village feeling. We
want that to stay and we think it would b ' a negative and very bad thing if we
changed it to 1.0. The reason is that 1.0 would stifle the development further
in the Grove when we want it: to be encoureeed. Now Mr. Acton told us about the
goals of the Master Plan and he said it vc'ry clearly. He said this goal was to
stimulate and keep as a viable :,•etrtf r the village center. They want it to be a
good healthy center. Everyplace in the rel~:.art it encourages healthy growth ex-
cept this one place when they take a sledge hammer really and knock out the props
of all the other good thine s they have in the report. In the report they encourage
pedestrian shoppif.g. Well, you can't have pedestrian shopping unless you have
new shops, court yards, plant:_cai'ine - you've got to have new development to have
that kind of lively center. If we continue to have the empty lots that we have
in the village center, i host at-e negatives oe a street. When someone walks down
a street and they leek .i:t tJ:.e windows and they see the excitement of people and
they come to an empty lot .it's ,i negative. New why are those lots still empty?
Obviously the economic viability of building has 1?een curtailed, I'm sorry. So
just in essence in :i!1mna y I'm saei.rtt7 ae en architect and planner -property owner
pass the ordinance but please allow the development to 2.0 ratio, please.
Mrs. Gordon: I have a question, Mr. Acton. if this were in fact a 2.0 would
that then mean a necessity to go up h.ieher or could it stay in the same height
limitation and still give enough open space, court yard space?
Mr. Acton: Our position, commissioner eerden, was that the new buildings that
he referred to, of course, were all buit at e floor area ratio of much less
than 1.0 on Commodore Plaza. We believe that with the establishment of floor
area ratio, a base floor area ratio of 1 the only way to encourage pedestrian
amenities that we described is to leave in the floor area ratio of one with
bonuses for these other amenities. It you allow say a floor area ratio of 1.5
to begin with the bonuses will not be taken advantage of and we're not going to
get these kinds of developments that we invisioned for future growth of the vil-
lage center. I also wanted to point out a 1.5 building bulk again represents
the type of bulk we have in Yacht Harbour, 1.78 is the Hotel Mutiny... What
I'm saying is that ail of the existing pedestrian scaled development in the
village core with a few exceptions as I just mentioned are under a 1.0 and they
were done voluntarily. In fact, when the floor area ratio was 2.0 permissible.
Mr. Plummer: •George, you keow being prac.t;.cel about it if that was the case
before and people did this on a voluntary heels you know I agree, what really
new development except for Yacht Harbour, the ?Mutiny was even before my time,
what are we going to do to encourage especially in the area as it surrounds
the village itself to encourage new interest,; to come into the area?
Mr. Acton: Of course, the zoning along k yhore does have quite a few under
developed lots is R-C, that's not to be changed. That is a base floor area
ratio of 1.5. We're only talking now about the village center itself and the
primary objective was to retain its village pedestrian oriented scale.
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Mr. Plummer: To the height, how many floors are you...
Mr. Acton: It's a four story height limit which nobody is opposed to.
Mr. Plummer: All right, you put a four story height limit, what would be the
purpose of trying to defeat the other way around of holding it to a 1.4? That's
the way I see it.
Mr. Acton: What we're saying _s that we're encouraging the type oropen space
through the use of bonus incentives such as we have done in the Brickell Avenue
area where we started with a base floor area ratio, well in that case it's high
density, but 1.5; the developers are given additional floor area ratio for cer-
taio types of landscaping amenities and other types of development...
Mr. Plummer: George, liou say you're giving it to them -• on one hand you're really
giving it to them because you're taking it away. And now you're proposing to be
a nice guy if they'll do what you say you'll give it back to them but less. Now
isn't that really what you're saying?
Mr. Acton: Well, escept that the upper limit in the C-2A District is 1.75. I
don't know whether Mr. Treister was speaking to that maximum floor area ratio
that can be achieved of 1.75 or whether he's talking about just making it per-
-- missable to develop up to 2.0 regardless of the type of amenities that a devel-
oper might provide.
Mr. Plummer: George, here's what. I'm getting at. We haven't seen any new type
of development in the business district which I think we will all agree that we
would like to see some development, we would like to be able to mold the devel-
opment. If you put greater restrictions it seems like you're going to have less
people interested in coming in to do what you hope to accomplish. You don't have
them now with the 2 point. How are you uing to get them in more so with a 1. or
a 1.4 or whatever it is?
Mr. Acton: Well, this goes back to the prior discussion we had on the C-2.
What we're trying to do is direct development in a desirable manner the same
way we did when we revised the R-C in the Brickell Area. If you recall back
during the time that the R-CIS ordinance in the Brickell area first came before
this commission you know there were a number of developments in that area but
you didn't see the proliferation of landscape nor did you hear at that time
the term used "high quality development" and "a desirable place to locate".
What we're trying to do with this ordinance is to direct the type of future
development that will make this a very attractive place for developers to come
in and develop in accordance with objectives set forth by the community. There
is no disagreement on the part of anybody in this room as to what we'd like to
see in terms of future development. We can't do it il we use let's say fair
approach...
Mr. Plummer: That remains to be seen. Ok, thank you.
Ms. Lorraine Prince: 1 am Lorraine Prince. My business office is in the Coconut
Grove Bank Building and my residence is 2488 Inagua Avenue. I'm a past president
of the Chamber of Commerce and I'm representing them today and I'm also currently
a Board of Director's member of the Chamber. I would like to say that I am fam-
iliar with properties in Coconut Grove having been here for 40 years and dealing
in them. The business area does need redevelopment. The floor area ratio in my
opinion should be kept at 2.0. As I'm in complete accord with Mr. Plummer there
is no point in redeveloping this area here unless it has some feasibility to it
and viability for the builder and investor. Would you believe now that there is
currently a piece of property in the business area approximately 65 feet by 178
at $500,000? It's a two story building. Who is going to tear that down to be
able to put up a one story building and not get anything for their investment?
You want a lively business area but if you stick to the 1.0 they're only going
to have one story buildings and there you keep out the professional offices on
the second floor. So a lot of it doesn't make good sense to me and I just feel
that if you stick to the 2. that we will get somewhere. We want progress here
in the Grove but we want progress with beauty and not stagnation, that's what
we've had because it hasn't been reasonable for anyone to come in and buy these
expensive properties and not be able to develop them properly. Thank you very
much.
Mrs, Gordon: Mr. Acton, if all the bonuses were used by a developer with your
recommendation what would the total permissable amount of fioor area ratio be?
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Mr. Acton: 1.75 unless you develop a tteatrr then it's 2.0. Unless you
takd advantage of the bonuses offered for developing a theater in that case .
the upper limit is 2.0.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean encouraging tie ir;elnpment of theaters?
Mr. Acton: Yes, that's correct. And this was done in recognition of the fact
that we have a Coconut Grove Playhouse and we want to retain that a; a very
desirable...
Mrs. Gordon: In other words for the average developer it would be a maximum
using all bonuses of 1.75.
Mr. Acton: That is correct.
Mrs. Gordon: Lorraine, or Ken Treister, because you both spoke to the issue;
what is your recommendation that in fa;. ' r have a straight across the board
2.0 without any bonu., arrangement? 1 don't think you meant that, did you?
Mr. Treister: Let me tell you about the bonus thing. There are three bonuses
recommended in the ordinance. One is to ens ourage a theater... so we discount
that. The second bonus is to ernoursoe underground parking; that's very desire,
able, it's very expensive and it would only fit on a .large lot. So for small'
lots say of Commodore Plaza to have a 50 foot lot and ramps and underground park-
ing is really infeasible so only in a large development which there aren't too
many, there are a few; underground parking is not a viable bonus for a man who
has a shopping lot. There is only one bonus. There is a bonus for court yards
and that is a good bonus. 8ut don't: give the bonus, give it in tax incentives,
give it in more setbacks, give it in any other way but don't use floor area ratio
as a tool for bonuses. There's many other bonuses that you can encourage people
to do courtyards. Why use that one econc.nic• tool when it really is going to
hurt rather than help the development:.
Mr. Acton: One thing that hasn't been said is that in the C-2A District we
now allow off-street parking remote from the principle site whereas before the
C-2A required on -site parking. New we're_ saying that you can have off street
parking within 600 feet so we can get tile :-cnt.lnuous retail shopping experience
that we want for the pedestrians in Coconut Grove. This has to be taken into
account when you're considering the average t.Ype of development on either a
small lot or a large lot in Coconut Grove and I purposely pointed out develop-
ments in the Gro that had went up recently, very recently that are under 1.0
that Mr. Treister or Mr. bannziger er- any other architects or individuals in the
audience would say are desirable, that's what they want in Coconut Grove. I
also pointed out Yacht Harbour which is 1.5 allowed, that's the intensity of
that building. So I think we have to take the floor area ratio and put it into
perspective and also in relationship to all the other provisions we have in this
ordinance for allowing remote site parking.
Mrs. Gordon: If you're capping the height...
Mr. Acton: At 4 stories.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, and speaking to those who are speaking for the 2.0 won't
that create, I'm asking you the architects, a bulky appearance for the area
without enough open space?
Mr. Treister: The answer is no for this reason that you cap the height at
four which creates a scale of the village center which is very important.
You know there aro three or four buildings now that are three or four stories
high in the village center which encloses the courtyard effect of that center.
But the bulk, in this ordinance they want people to build right on the street.
They want a pedestrian street without setbacks because that is a lively shopping
area. Now the fact that you have professionals on the second floor -that maybe
have a restaurant on the third floor, that you have a business that goes very
deep not on the street; yes, you'll -have bulk but for the pedestrian walking on
the street he sees the shops and he gets the enclosure. if you go to Bay Street,
if you go to Bond Street. in London, all of those streets they have 2, 3 story
buildings with shops. It is bulk but you never see the bulk because the pedes-
trian walks on the street with the shops. The main thing you want to do is cap
the height at 4 stories - that's the key. Once you've done that you should en-
'courage development and it'll never go to two. I doubt if anybody will build
two but give the architects the freedom:
Mrs. Gordon: The way I feel about it is that one of the most interesting aspects
of the whole plan is the courtyards and I agree with you that that should be a
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bonus factor. But I don't know that we can start with 2 and then go to bonuses.
Mayor Ferre: No. Well, that's what we're going to have to start worrying about
in a moment.
Mr. Fred Hutchinson: My name is Fred Hutchinson, I'm also here with the Chamber.
I think I can't reiterate too much more in what's already been said in support
of this. The Chamber supports it, I don't want any of you to forget that the
biggest thing on this thing that we are euppc:rinq is the total ordinance. We
only have one gripe and that's the floor area ratio. I've been active in Coco-
nut Grove since 1 was a boy and .I've b'. n here approximately 34 years. Now 20
years ago the Grove was; very active and Pr died. off. Now it's coming back, We
have a lot of activity in the Grove and they activity is from people. If we
don't have the places to put the people whether they be businesses or retail
stores you're going to lose these people again. We need the people in Coconut
Grove. Again, I just say 1 support: rt. 13 .the way, 1 reside in Coconut Grove
and my business is in Coconut trove.
Mr. Joe Harrison: Mr. Mayor, rember e el tee .ommi.ss.ion, my name is'Joe Harrison.
I live at 3471 Main ltie;hway. _'ve been a rt:,.i ac n`._ of Coconut Grove for 10 years.
I have property in the village area. 1 have had an abiding interest for these
10 years in the future and the survival ot the village area and a past president
as Mrs. Prince is of the Chamber of Cc>ttm r,:e. I'm a past president of the Coco-
nut Grove Association which conducts the •arte festival every year. Now, our
objective is to see that the villaeie survi):ees; that is basically preservation.
We must be very cautious in .:applying restrictions to redevelopment of the village
area. We have some, many ot them et_ 1ea:t are 50 year old buildings which are
deteriorating with the course of time ene.l it must be possible to redevelop these
buildings favorably. Now there hae been tro, the ;vain point as 1 see it at this
moment is that there has been no demonstrated need for a restrictive provision
with respect to the C-.'A. There has been ho building erected in the past 15
years that has met any objectione part of any of our citizenry. Those
which have been erected ha•,'u :almost unive is.ally been applauded for their beauty
and appropriateness. I repeat, there >ars been no demonstrated need for the kind
of provision that ae alee tt_ee i ii the Cif i._i;a 'r;,e . So, a conservative, in the best
sense of the word, sensible .apprc.e.reh would be to leave the effective floor area
ratio at 2 and if in the future .-toinet_i;i:-,.;I ':hat met with universal disapproval
were to be built then I :should think we chould consider a more restrictive approach.
But with no demonstrative need w r t;; t ?r..- r the village to above all survive
I think we should be sensible .trru particularly with a 4 story cap on....
Mr. Ralph Aaron: Commissioner Gordon, members of the commission, my name is
Ralph Aaron. I'm here to talk about the -,'A zoning proposal of the Planning
Department also. I have four pointe I would like to make and I'd like to make
them in a quick numerical order. Fieet. ot ell I would like to point out as a
preamble that Mr. Acton stated that the purpose of this zoning ordinance was to
encourage, and he spelled this out .s a goal, to encourage the economic viability
of the village core. And I'm very hart prey -end to find out how a 1.0 floor area
ratio attempts to promote the economic ;iebility of any business district. That's
point number one. Point number two, Mr. Acton, and 1 don't want to be guilty of
personification here but: he made the statement and it's in the record; he made
reference to Embarcadero Plaza 431, there 'r .rn Embarcadero Plaza #2, there's a
Cannery and there's Ghiardell.i Square :.ane einc,e I just came back from waiting in
line an hour at. Skoman's to get into the restaurant. I think I'm freshly aware
of what is happening over there in San Francisco and I can't see how there is
any direct comparison with the objection that he states he would like to see at
the Cannery or Embercadero Plaza 41 when we don't have a land area large enough
in the village business district of Coconut Grove to create what he says he
would envisage happening here; especially, (1) we don't have the land area and
(2) he puts a cap on height and (3) he would suggest a floor area ratio that
would never allow it. So !here is .a contradiction here. There is some kind of
vague aspiration out there balled on seem,:• e_vmp.-srative analysis with other commun-
ities that by the way are very vibrant: and exciting and then a bunch of straight
jackets that we have to live by and which the Planning Department is asking you
people to endorse which does .anything but promote this cultural and economic
viability and make it a place where people want to go and just look and see
and be seen and buy some shrimp in a little thing for a buck and have a good
time, So I think you know what I'm talking about. Now let's get down to point
#3 as regards to what Mr. Treister said; l;e's,absolutely correct, I don't know
what the incentives are that we're talking about. We have the theater and nobody
wants more than one theater; I don't know if anybody else wants to promote one,
(2) We can't put underground parking. It's.too expensive to cut into that coral
rock and (3) we've got courr_yareds, But_ surely there's something a little bit more
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than court yards by way of throwing out a carpet to a developer. Developers
are having a pretty tough time out there I'm finding. And what could be a
fourth point that we might throw out as a carrot? Well, how a little bit of
air rights where there's an incentive if he bu.lds out over the sidewalk like
We had where Mrs. Callahan used to have her reA testate office on Grand Avenue;
if they build out of it over the public right of way on the sidewalk (1) you've
got a sheltered area from the sun and hot weather and (2) you've got a utilizat-
ion of land and (3) you've got yourself a bonus to give to a developer. I don't
see this kind of creativity taking plate. I1c:w let me go to (4) and then I'll
get out of here. You know how can yoe really arbitrarily pick one out of the
hat just like years ago you could ask, "Hew did you pick two out of a hat?" '
these'are just reference points. You ?:now what it really is, a floor area
ratio? It's 1.72 on lot; it's 1.37 can rrnether.. How can one be so generalized
and laissez-faire about this approach? The truth is that there is an economic
and physical obsolescence to each beildi.ny .and if you're going to replace build-
ings and allow a developer to make a reasonable profit you've got to let hit
have some kind of flexibility within context with the profile of the community
and the scale of the community and th'' im,=.'.ae of this community where he can
live. If he's not going to get a mirei.rnum et as profit which is what you would
get on some certificate, of savings it•I+•e:;it why the hell should he go out there
and build? So if y e're uoi_ng to put him ie e straight jacket of 1 arbitrarily
what is the criteria for. 1? T haven't teal d the criteria for 1 yet. Therefore,
if there is no criteria let's let the tarp make 61 otherwise let him put his
money is savings bonds.
Mr. Les Hummell: My name is Les Hununr=ll. I own a store in the Grove for 15
years; I've been a resident 21. years. I'm :a member of the Coconut Grove Char-
ber of Commerce and I also worked for a year on the Zoning Board for the County
and you haven't seen anything any more ruthless on television on Gunsmoke than
you'll see in that outfit. They're strictly interested in expediting every-
thing outside of it. But anyway, ; f:•:r as the floor area spacing in the Grove
and everything I hate to see that area frozen now. You have a four story
height limitation already and I'd just Itke to say that Coconut Grove has grown
very slowly but it is a very successfui ehopping area. I own some stores in
some other shopping ar'.';:s in the cou;.t.'• and tt":e?y're all in trouble. All the
shopping centers .are in ouhle, evoe ?<<t irl erd. Coconut Grove is successful
and it is moving ;clone very nicely. We just bate to see any change that would
interrupt a very successful area in anyway whether it's traffic control or
anything. We'd like to secs the status euuo more or less preserved.
Mr. Wayne Allan: I reside at 22 5.W. 27 Terrace "A". I'm the Director of
the Tigertail Association. S'emo of the eer.ments here really amaze me here
on a second reading for a project which has been under study by the city for
about a year and a half now. 1 was nn tto advisory committee that helped to
develop the Coconut Grove Planning Study end I don't profess to be any kind
of an expert on floor area ratio, in f-:ct, I'm far from that. But we have an
ordinance that is before the City Commission on second reading; these questions
were discussed when it was before the commission before and in the study group
itself. The bonus provision I think we all can recognize that that's a very
forward looking approach to this sort ef a problem. There are certain things
which good planning dictates as be.inq desirable. I think the Planning Department
has made a very good attempt to implement that in this ordinance and on behalf
of the Tigertail Association I'd like to say that we would urge that the city
adopt it as presented.
Mr. Ted Schumey: Mayor Ferre, Commissioners, my name is Ted Schumey. I'm
an architect and I'm the president of the Cee nut Grove Civic Club. I'd like
to say that I think this is one of the MQSt. ;:ritical aspects of this entire
planning study which we're talking :about now. Now I know that you on the com-
mission are more than well aware of the feelings on the part of the people of
Coconut Grove end the Civic Organizations to preserve the village nature of
the business di str. i ct . Ate+i what I think ?:.asn' t been said here today is that
if 2.0 is enacted we're nc,t gei ny t h v. e .a village atmosphere. Rose, I want
you to picture what happens with a four story limit, and I can go along with
that, but picture the buildings right et the street going up four stories in
comparisoe to what they are nr,w. You ;ios' t lava a village atmosphere, you have
a canyon. Now when you take that fact inte consideration plus the fact the
average density now in the entire bus i r,es:: district is lselow 1,0 such that you
could almost triple the existing nquare rootage there and still be within the
proposed ordinance. I think that .it is overwhelmingl-
y in favor of enacting
the ordinance as the Planning Iaepert.nont has proposed it. Again we mention
about buildings being successful and about development. We've mentioned the
building across the street from the • ausal i to on Commodore Plaza; it has about
a .5 FAR. It. is extremely su_'.cese ui , qu1 t e exciting.. .
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Mayor Ferrel .5?
Mr. Schumey: .5 and that's what I'm trying to get across that's so important.
FAR is a tricky thing.
Mayor Ferret What do they have, do they have a lot of open space in the back
or on the side?
Mr: Schumey: Yes, they've got open space inside, you've walked around I'm
sure. Well, that's not counted in FAR, that's one of the encouragements
that you can do with you see. So what. I'rn saying is 1 concur with the 4
stories; I concur completely with the Planning Department's recommendations
and I want you all to carefully understand what that 2.0 means - It's very
important. And the biggest thing it does, is i.E it destroys the village atmos-
phere and if we do that we might as well not have the planning study at all.
Again, we could build almost triple this square footage that now exists and
be within the plan. And that's great room for development and I certainly
encourage that.
UNIDENTIFIED SF'JTU'ERmr, Schumey says that a 2.0 floor area ratio destroys the
village atmosphere. We've had a 2.0 floor area ratio for probably at least
two decades yet obviously it has not destroyed the floor area ratio. (2) Mr.
Mayor, if I may, reference was made to the citizens' task force having approved
and discussed the floor area ratio of 1. This is not entirely correct; it is
not substantially correct. I was a member of the citizens' task force as was
Mr. Dannziger. The basis of the discussion was the 4 story height limitation.
The citizens' task force did not discuss to Mr. Dannziger's memory or my mem-
ory, and we attended every meeting, did not discuss the 1.0 floor area ratio.
This was added at some point by the Planning Department itself. Thank you.
Mr. Steven Carver: My name is Steven Carner, I live at 3399 Poincir.na Avenue
and I've heard more banking discussed here today than I heard when I was chair-
man of the Board of the bank I was with. I don't believe it is the obligation
of this City Commission to guarantee capital gains to anybody in this room.
Let's start right there. If they want to make a profit let them make their
investment and deal with it. like any other American businessman but capital
gains on vacant land I think is something beyond the provence of this commission.
I don't believe it's the responsibility of this City Commission to shade the
sidewalks; we believe in trees in the Grove. very frankly, I don't want to
see buildings reaching out half way across the streets so trees can't grow. I
came here for tines, I think most people who live in the Grove did. The one
point that we're talking about falls well within the provence of good design.
We haven't seen any development recently in the Grove we haven' t seen anywhere
in the United States - we have a recession in case anybody forgot about it.
We will see development. The pecple come here because of the character of the
Grove as it is not as some people would make it. It is as it is and gentlemen,
you are elected to protect the environment that we moved to this area for not
that some developer feels would be beautiful in their eyes or their bank account.
I have nothing against profit; God knows I believe in it but I don't believe in
it to at the expense of another person. I don't believe in it, even animals
know not to defile their own nests. I think that the one point with the bonuses
offered will provide what we need. We had 30 almost 40 years Fair Island zoning
was the worst zoning in the City of Miami and it took a Burton Goldberg to wake
us to the fact that it could be utilized. It was suggested here that we leave
this bad zoning and when we get the bad buildings then we should start to worry
about it. You're here to avoid that. Thank you. (APPLAUSE)
Mr. Lester Pancoast: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I think that the preservation
of scale and character are the guarantee of economic_ stability in Coconut Grove.
For years and years we've had an PAR of 2 in that area and there was no great
development and there was quite a lot_ going on all around Miami. So preserving
the FAR of 2 today is not the magic thing that will give us marvelous prosperity
in Coconut Grove. Preserve the scaler art character and you'll preserve the eco-
nomic viability of a very special place. Now go in for a heavier FAR and you'll
provide t1.t same future for Coconut Grove that a lot of other little business
areas in the City of Miami have already met. Think, for example, of Allappattah
poor old Allappattah, it died. Coconut Grove could die too. All you need is a
little too much FAR. Now how much PAR should we be thinking about? These num-
bers are kind of impersonal. It is very hard for most of us, 1 include architects
quite often, to picture the whole village with an FAR of 1 plus bonuses that
equal character or an FAR of 2. T say that both you and we have to rely on these
professionals whose full time job it is to equate these effects into numbers.
They're sensitive, they're doing the thing that for years we've hoped that they
would do and we now hope you will follow their advice as we hereby approve it,
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Mt. Aaron: This is a rebuttal because we d'an't have that system for a rebuttal
here. But Mr. Acton talks about the Cannery with the 1.0 floor area ratio he
talks about not withstanding the 4 floors and the bonus for the courtyard you'll
never get your cannery or Ghi3rdelli Square and what's more when this man talks
about the rights of the people, these people bought their property with the
rights of a 2.0 floor area ratio and now these people over here are taking it
away from them. Who's talking about rights?
Mr. Jack Luft: We now have a 2.0 ratio and I want Lester and everybody to
realize that the village center as it now i;; it has a 2,0 ratio. We want to
preserve that, we don't want to limit it.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Any other comments? Thank you very much. Members of
the commission?
Mrs. Gordon: I've listened very attentively and really in full sympathy with
the comments on the economy and the developers' points of view and etc., etc.
But I remember very vividly the reason why we're in these discussions at all
today and that was because there was a threat that there was going to be an.
enormous amount of highrise and bulk type of development taking place in the
village and that we might .Lose the character th.3t is the reason why a two story
building Lorraine just mentioned is priced at that enormous amount of money.
It's because the village itself is so unique that that is the reason why values
have been kept up. So I don't imagine they're going to tear that down and put
up a one story. No, but on the other hand if they put up a one story they're
not going to lose value perse because it still retains its value because it is
in the area that it's presently located which is different than any other place
in this entire Dade County. So my point of view is after a long period of
research and a lot of people meeting and discussing and years, it seems to me
about a year and a half from the time we first put a temporary provision on
this area to restrain incompatable development. So I'm not going to jump the
gun on my fellow commissioners, each and everyone have a right to be heard but
when you're ready for a motion I'm ready to make one.
Mr. Reboso: After listening to both sides I agree that our Planning Depart-
ment I think is right. i f we want to preserve the Grove 1 think th.it we should
stay with the 1.0 floor area ratio.
Mayor Ferre: Now the recommendation, George, if you would repeat that again is
that there is a 1.4 floor area ratio with bonuses that would take it up to 1.4
as I remember.
Mrs. Gordon: 1.75.
Mr. Acton: 1.75 maximum. 1.0 is permitted as a matter of right.
Mayor Ferre: And then the bonuses take it up to as much as 1.75 but the bonuses
for example the bonuses on the court yard which really as he said is the only
practical bonus that you're really talking about, how much would that be?
Mr. Acton: 1.4.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, because nobody i, going to build a garage underground in
Coconut Grove.
Mr. Acton: Right, but I say...if they take advantage of that bonus could build
a 1.4.
Mayor Ferre: So in other words you're talking in effect what you're really
talking about is a floor area ratio of 1.4.
Mr. Acton: That's right, about the samp intensity, Mr. Mayor, as we have in
the R-C,
Mayor Ferre: Well, what are you shaking your head about, Jack?
Mr, Luft: I just might point out that for the past couple of years there has
been an effort on the part of several property owners in the Grove area to
assemble what we could call large tracts of land in the village center. I
might point out that most of the area between Commodore Plaza and Fuller Street
is under one ownership; most of the area along the south side of Main Highway
is under one ownership; much of the area in the Florida Rice Street area on
several tracts is under one ownership. In fact, we do have the potential for
some large developments and some of the developers have talked to me more than once
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about underground parking. We have the playhouse tract. We do have,..
Mayor Ferre: You mean for underground parking?
Mr, Luft: Yes, several of then have, yes. And underground parking in this
case might be depressed parking. You wouldn't have to dig like a cave, you
know.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Well, I'm going to express my opinion. I think
that we have got to do everything to maintain the character of the Grove.
Now the question comes as to how you define, how we keep the character of
the Grove and I think the zoning is going to be an important portion of it.
Obviously it's not going to be, it has never been the key factor es to what
does happen in San Francisco, Paris, .exi.co City, Houston or Miami - it never
has been and it never will he. Now, I do think I would be against a 2.0 floor
area ratio because I think that is going to give too much density to that gen-
eral area. Your real .limitation is yoine to be your four stories I think.
However, I would be personally, and this i just one voice out of five, amen-
able to see that go to say 1.5 which 1 don't think does any great harm to the
totality of the picture. That's my personal opinion. In other words I don't
think that going from 1.4 or. 1.0 to 1.5 i:; going to make that much of a dif-
ference and I think it will give the flexability for the proper type of devel-
opment that you need in that core area. That's my opinion.
Mr. Luft: Could I add one statement? 1 think Mr. Treister made a telling
statement when he mentioned that he doubted that anybody would ever reach 2.0
in a FAR...
Mayor Ferre: He's probably right especially with a 4 story limitation.
Mr. Luft: Right. What he's saying is that it is very difficult to develop
those intensities and we've seen with our new development that it takes some
imagination to even reach a 1.0. Beyond that we could definitely see some
development ranging in that area between 1 and 1.5. The question then becomes
does it matter, do we just lay it out there and let them take it or do we once
we reach that level of 1.0 where it starts to become difficult do we want to
take a further closer look at it, start looking for some plazas and terraces
and some open spaces to work with it. They can reach that 1.5 and they prob-
ably will with some careful planning and they could with these bonuses.
Mayor Ferre: That's the whole key to it, is the'l interest and the careful plan-
ning and I think the economics of it is what is.going to encourage it. In other
words the success of that new building where the Kaleidescope Restaurant is the
success of that kind of a building to me is what really encourages that type of
development. You know bonuses and zoning variances that really has nothing to
do with it; it is the economic success of the project itself. You know we in
government always want to figure how everything is going to end up and always
want to control everything and the truth of the matter is that we never do it.
You know in the free flow system it just happens the economy of it makes the
decision and not the governmental structure. It always works out that way.
Rev. Gibson: J.L., maybe you could tell me this. If we haven't we can't
hardly reduce it, can we? Huh? I say, if we have it we can't reduce it but
if we don't have it we could increase it. Is that right?
Mr. Plummer: Well Father, you know it is as broad as it is long. We're at 2
now and the point that I've made before we've not seen any development good, bad
or indifferent as far as buildings in the Grove. Now if you take and you reduce
it to me that surely is not an incentive to try to get someone to come in and do
some developing and this is where I'm on the horns of a dilemma. If in fact what
he is saying through bonuses we can go up to a 1.75 or realistically to a 1.5 you
know what we're really doing is we're saying we're taking it away but if you'll
be good boys and do it the way we want we'll give you some of it back. That's
really what they're saying.
Rev. Gibson: I don't think you have got my point. If we go to work and do all
of that .. . Let me do it this way. Let's assume that we do all of the develop-
ing we want to do based on this 2 point business you're talking about, If we
have spoiled the Grove or destroyed it according to the opposition we cannot go
then, you see I heard that argument this morning, we cannot then reduce it. Do
you see what I mean? However, if we don't have it and the need arises we can
then produce it and increase it. Isn't that right? Ok. I think I'm in tune,
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Mrs. Gordon: What you're saying, Father Gibson, is the way I feel about it.
At this point in time I'm ready to move forward and reiterate what we did at
the last hearing. If in fact it should be at some future time recommended by
the department that there be some additional bonuses considered that might
give additional floor area ratio we could then take that up but at thig point
t'm going to move it.
Mr. Plummer: Let me just for a point of clarification. Mr. Acton, if we
move as the motion states at 1.0 to change it as Father says at conceivably
a later date will this be the vehicle of variance or changing of the ordinance?
Mr. Acton; You'd amend the ordinance.
Mr. plummy-.rt It could not be done by a variance?
Mr. Acton; Well yes, you can do it by variance but I'm saying we would recom-
mend a change in the ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Rather than a variance?
Mr. Acton: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: But it could be done through a variance?
Mr. Acton: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, I've got no problem.
Rev. Gibson: These are good businessmen out here. See, business is not my
hussle. You know something else is my hussle. Ok? These men know how to put
that package together and if it can be demonstrated, I'm only speaking for
Theodore as long as I'm here. When I'm not here there is nothing I can do.
If you demonstrate to me at a reasonable length of time while I'm here that
what we may do today is detrimental and stifles the growth of the Grove based
on what you're saying I promise you forthwith I would be the first to come
here and reverse my position. Now I think that is reasonable and I think
that those of us who have put in our life, and I've put 29 years in the Grove
and I've always prided myself even when I got an opportunity to go overtown
and take the big church over there, 1 pri(3ed myself on living in the Grove
where the number wasn't quite as great and that I could still survive. Now
I want to make sure everybody understands that. Mr. Mayor, before we vote
you splke of 1.5 instead of 4 and I saw the people who advocated 1....well,
who were not for the 2 indicate that there was no great harm to not going to
5. Is that right?
Mayor Ferre: No. What I was saying was this; that there is only one bonus
that really means anything as far as I can see and that is the question of
courtyards because underground parking and a theater are really, to me that
doesn't mean anything. All I'm saying is that I think that the bonus should
go, it's not going up to 1.75 because nobody is going to put in a theater and
underground parking - I don't think. What I'm saying is go up so there is at
least a 1.5 attainable in this thing and I see nothing wrong with 1.5.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, may I make a recommendation with regard to the adopt-
ion now with a direction to the Planning Department to come back at some future
time with perhaps some additional bonus recommendations or a modification in
this. But I don't think we should at this point haphazardly make any alterations.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COM-
PREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI
TO INCLUDE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT, ARTICLE XIV-1,
SPECIAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL - C-2A DISTRICT, PRO-
VIDING FOR INTENT, USE REGULATIONS, LIMITATIONS ON
USES, PEDESTRIAN STREET, AREA, YARDS, HEIGHT, FLOOR
AREA RATIO, FLOOR AREA PREMIUMS, PARKING, AND SITE
AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, AS HEREINAFTER SET
FORTH; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR
PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN
CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION,
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Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Reboso; the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Nohe.
ABSENT: None,
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8382.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: 1 would much prefer to see a stronger incentive so that there
will be, there would be some viable growth in the commercial portion of the
Grove and it would be much happier with a stronger incentive. I hope that
we'll be able to work on that in the future and I certainly hope that the
administration would take that in serious consideration and of courr:e we'll
come up to public hearings on it again should there be any changes. But I
think it is a step in the right direction and I vote yes.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, would you also give the same type of direction to the
department that you did on the C-2A realizing that one of the shopping areas
this is going to be applied to is at Bird Road and 27th Avenue and that is
where one of those Crook & Crook stores are; it does have...
Mayor Ferre: I don't understand what you're saying.
Mr. Acotn: Well, what I'm saying is that the C-2A is going to be applied to
the village center; .it is also going to he applied to that shopping area that
exists at Bird Road and 27th Avenue. So to include these same type of provis-
ions in the C-2A as we will in the C-2 as it pertains to marine wholesale act-
ivities.
Mayor Ferre: A31 right.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you want a motion on that? Ok, so move it.
Thereupon the above motion introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Mr.
Reboso was passed and adopted unanimously.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPRE-
HENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY ADD-
ING A NEW SECTION 6 TO ARTICLE XXIV, "SIGNS"; REPEAL-
ING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS THEREOF IN
CONFLICT INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAIN-
ING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975,was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vute:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8383.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public,
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDNANCE NO. 6871,
THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, FOR
THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION FROM R-2 (TWO-FAMILY), C=-2
(COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL), AND C-4 (GENERAL
COMMERCIAL) TO C-2A (SPECIAL COMMUNITY COM-
MERCIAL) FOR THE AREAS OF THE CENTRAL GROVE
DISTRICT AS SHOWN ON THE MAP ATTACHED HERETO
AS EXHIBIT "A" AND MADE A PART HEREOF BY
MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE ZONING
DISTRICT MAP, MADE A PART OF .SAID ORDINANCE
NO. 6871 BY REFERENCE AND DES 'RIPTION IN
ARTICLE III, SECTION 2 THEREOF; REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS
THEREOF IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN
CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PRO-
VISION; AND PROVIDING; FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12,
1975, was taken up for its second and final reading by title
and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Plummer,
the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final
reading by title and passed and adopted by the following
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8384.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
members of the City
Commission and to the public.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE
38, OS,MAUREEN HA5WITZ
BLKEWAYS NOW
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TIE-IN - CITY PLANS AND COUNTY PLANS
FOR BIKE PATHS
Ms. Maureen Harwitz: My name is Maureen Birdie Harwita, I'm a member of
'Bikeways Now", a coalition of civic clubs, bike groups and interested cyclists
in the county. I thank you for the privilege of... I am here because the county
is about to take action on their recommended Metropolitan Dade County Bike Plan
this Wednesday, April 16th, God willing. If the plan goes through as presented
to the County the City of Miami as all of the other municipalities will be shafted
once again in Decade of Progress Bond Issue moneys. The concept of Metropolitan
Dade County seems to be you put it wherever the cities aren't and any of us who
live in the municipal areas..,
Rev. Gibson: We didn't hear that. What did you say?
Mayor Ferre: Can we correct you? There's one correction. The way the county
goes about it is they tax us and then then put it...
Ms. Harwitz; And then they put it where we are not. We get taxed to put
things in the unincorporated areas and it's not fair. If we just address the
issue of who are bike riders; in the Dade County Public School System there are
200,000 children who don't get any kind of Dade County Bus System who live with-
in two miles of their schools. So right there you have 200,000 people who could
be riding their bikes to school if it were safe and if bikes could be stored
once they got there. Then you have adult commuters who are protesting the $10
a barrel oil prices and riding their bikes instead of using cars. And you have
those who use bikes for recreation. Their problems basically are safety and
storage of bicycles when they get there so they won't be ripped off. Where are
the major proportion of the cyclists located? They're located inside the munici-
palities, they're not located down near Perrine or off of Old Cutler Road, What
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is the county doing and what is their policy? The county is putting bikeways
on Old Cutler Road and their policy is to continue putting bikeways near Old
Cutler Road and really not addressing the needs of the community. I'm here
because bicycling is a serious mode of transportation and for the people who
have grown up in Miami it's been a fact of transportation in Miami for years.
The mail has always been delivered by mailmen on bicycles. What I would like
to see happen today is a resolution for the City of Miami requesting that
along with the adoption of this county plan that those municipalities that
have already submitted plans be included and (2) that the City of Miami re -
Vest minimum county planning assistance to link up their own commuter routes
with those municipal plans that have been accepted so that you have perimeters
to plan with. (3) I'd like to see a resolution from the City of mlami Corn -
Mission to ask County Public Works to ce:i!-;e and desist from putting up their
hazardous green and white bike route signs. The signs that they've put up
along Main Highway are a threat to life and limb. They're in the middle of
the path, some of them are at head level and I'm afraid there's going to be
a serious accident. (4) I would like to see the City of Miami direct its
very own Planning Department to start working ca a commuter route within the
City of Miami. And I feel if we can get these a trong statements from the
City of Miami Commission that we will go a long way to making the county more
responsible to our needs. There is an additional factor; the county doesn't
want to fund any bikeway that runs through a city. - automatically, if it is
in a city they don't want to touch it. Yet we are all equally sharing the
Decade for Progress Bond Issue and that's unfair and they're not doing that
with the rapid transit moneys, nobody pays extra because they live in a city
to support that. It's equally spread. So I think that maybe the County Com-
mission should be made aware that we feel that it is a discriminatory economic
policy. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell you, Miss Harwitz, that there is not one commis-
sion meeting that goes by where this commission does not pass a resolution
really the word is begging Metropolit:a:: Dade County to take us into consider-
ation. And I want to tell you that with some notable and few exceptions that
never happens. For example, in the Decade, and the Manager is now making up
a report and I would just take.a guess that even though 23% of the leople of
Dade County live in the City of Miami and therefore, 23% of the debt will be
paid for by the citizens of Mimi that we won't even get in this first 127
two or three percent of the total money spent. And at the rate we're going
if we get 5 to 10 percent we're going to be very very lucky and that's the
way it always goes. We're continually fighting this battle. I think we ought
to pass once again one more resolution asking the county that they do have an
obligation to the people of the City of Miami to provide them with our bond
money our fair proportionate share. You know Metro is always complaining in
Tallahassee about "Porkchopism" and how we don't get fair shares for South
Florida and Dade County and then they turn around and do the very same thing
to us that they're complaining that somebody else is doing to them. You know
it is always depending on whose ox is getting gored. Mr. Andrews, do you want
to add something?
Mr. Andrews: May I suggest that since this is such a good resolution except
with the last item that you have in it which the city does have a plan for
the entire city that perhaps this is one time you'd want to change the form
of your resolution by indicating to the effect that the City Commission enter-
tains a resolution as suggested by Maureen Harwitz for and then continue on
with your resolution to the county to support a citizen's request. This
doesn't initiate with the commission although you expressed your interest so
many times in the past. Here is somebody that is coming before you to ask
assistance for ...
Mayor Ferre: All that he's saying, in other words your a citizen...
Mrs. Harwitz: I'm not a citizen of the City of Miami...I'm San Souci in North
Miami.
Mrs. Gordon: Maureen is saying that this city should support the request of
all the other municipalities that might not have....
Mayor Ferre:
saying, The
Mrs. Harwitz;
I would like
Mrs. Gordon;
Well the same thing is true in North Miami that you were just
same thing is true in North Miami as in the City of Miami,
I really wouldn't like them to feel that I'm the trouble maker.
them to feel that you're doing this on your own initiative.
All right, we'll do it on our. own,
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Thereupon the preceding motion, introduced by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by
Mr. Reboso was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote.
Mrs, Gordon: And if you Like, maybe some of us will appear at the time of
the hearing.
Mrs. Harwitz: It is scheduled at 9:00 A.M., Wednesday the 16th.
Mr. Lloyd: Mr, Mayor, I wonder if I might request that Miss Harwitz stay and
talk to Miss Carter, our resolution writer so we can prepare that in form to
be sent to the Commission in the manner in which you have indicated.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Andrews, I think this is in important enough item that a
representative of the city should be at the Metro Commission and ask to be
heard and go on record requesting that some of these moneys come to the muni-
cipalities for these express purposes.
Mr. Andrews: You'd.be interested to.know that the bikeway that has been refer-
red to here that was recently constructed by Metro is 9 miles long running down
Cutler Road beginning at Snapper Creek and Red Road and cost a quarter of a million
dollars going south.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, if you'll compile the kinds of information we should
have perhaps a number of us could be down there on Wednesday.
39, PERSONAL APPEARANCE
JOHN HORAN
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CEREBRAL PALSY FOUNDATION
PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOPMENT
OF SPECIAL PARK FOR CEREBRAL PALSY VICTIMS
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Lloyd, you started to tell m? something about Cerebral
Palsy situation so before you start I think you ought to hear this.
Mr. Lloyd: According to my understanding of the...
Mayor Ferre: John, before you do that why don't we let Mi. Horan make his
statement and then we'll see what exactly we can do. Make it quick, will you
please.
Mr. John Horan: I'm here today to speak about what we are calling exterior
sensory learning environment. This is not, it has been mentioned as a park it
is not really a park. It is a contained environment for youngsters who have
real difficulty in social recreational activities in the outside. Our young-
sters especially are cerebral palsy youngsters, have very great experiential
deficits. So our association proposes this special environment where we can
do an outisde kind of program in a place where the situation is such that the
child meets with success instead of failure; that he is able to cope with his
environment and learn from his environment. To do this we must build or con-
struct a specialized situation. The usual conventional recreational equipment
that you find in a regular park is not feasible for our youngsters with their
multiple handicaps. So United Cerebral Palsy with their past expertise in
indoor programming proposes this as an outdoor specialized environment. To do
it we are asking the city's help; we are going to sk the county's help; we have
already asked the state for help.
Mayor Ferre: What you're specifically talking about is a park that would be
equipped for children that have this affliction.
Mr. Horan: Yes, your honor, but it is a contained situation. People think of
a park as a very broad...
Mayor Ferre: I think the best way to do this, 1 would respectfully like to
ask the administration to have someone meet with Mr. Horan and whoever you
might designate to study the possibility and come back to us with all the
ramifications legal and otherwise. Is that acceptable? Thank you very much,
Mr. Horan.
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40, SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES
APR lo Nib
ORDINANCES_WDEPINI 'IONS
►► A,► _I►g►i » C►, `►D'? ►tE„
Mt. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, there was an amendment. Do you have that now, Mr.
City Attorney? 14(a)?
Mr. Lloyds Yes, I do. I'll have to get it.
Mayor Ferret Does that affect 14 (b):'
Mr. Plummer: It actually affects them all except R-4 or more.
Mr. Lloyd: I have it here. Actually, our recommendation is not an amendment
to the Substantive Abuse Ordinance but an amendment to other sections of the
Article XXXII - Conditional. Use and Section 6 of Article XXXI - Variances which
would be as follows. I can pass out this memorandum ...
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you do that in the interest of time.
Mr. Lloyd: It will have to be handled by a subsequent amendment to another
portion of the ordinance but it would not be included in this ordinance. It
explains it in this memo. It would be appropriate to pass this ordinance now.
(Thereupon the City Attorney read the ordinance by title) Fourteen (a) is not
amended, we will have to present the amendment to another section of the ordin-
ance which we will do probably by the next Commission Meeting.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPRE-
HENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY
AMENDING SECTION 2, ENTITLED "DEFINITIONS", TO PROVIDE
DEFINITIONS FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND RESIDENTIAL AND
NON-RESIDENTIAL SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES; REPEAL-
ING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OP. PARTS THEREOF IN
CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERAf3IL1TY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975 was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8385.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record an,i
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
Mr. Sam Jacobs: Sam Jacobs, the program director of the Model Cities Therapeutic
Community. First I'd like to commend the commission on these amendments and I
find them to be very condusive to the services that we ought to. But there is
one area here I have to open for discussion, that's the area where the standards
stipulate that we must have 10,000 square feet of space to offer services in order
to have a residential facility. In my experience it has been, the director of a
predominantly black program for the past year and some months, I find that to
fulfill this particular area of your criteria is practically impossible when we
speak about the which is the Model City area. It is very difficult to find
a piece of property in that area or on ther peripheral that has 10,000 square
feet that's condusive to services that we offer with the moneys that we have in
our budget to rent or lease such facilities. And in this one particular area
from all the feedback I've gotten from the Model Cities Treatment Program perse
from their planning council, from Task...and the comprehensive drug program the
rate of blacks in treatment is very pathetic. They don't remain, most of the
programs in areas that we do have seemingly...aren't applying themselves in a
more positive way toward the people of this particular area, And this is
the area of the amendment that I would like to see on to.
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Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, this may be a point of confusion; I'm not sure of
thj 100000 square feet limitation he's sp?aking about and neither is Mr.
Acton, t don't know that this exists and unless...
Mayor Ferre: Well, where did you get this from?
Mr, Jacobs: I have here tha standard abuse facility amendment preliminary
draft, Planning Department, June 11, 1974. it says. Substance Absue Facilities
Standards, the following minimum standards...
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, may I see that? Give me the copy of it and I'll show
it to the Manager.
Mr, Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, is he referring to the minimum lot size? That is changed.
It is 20,000 square feet in the copy I have here.
Mr. Jacobs: The 20,000 was typed in but I was informed that it was really 10,000
instead of 20.
Mayor Ferre: What we're voting on is 20.
Mr. Jacobs: That makes it much worse; that makes it totally impossible...
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, as we informed the commission, we are in the process now
of drafting a new all encompassing substitute ordinance that will change the
standards for all types of residential treatment facilities including work release,
substance abuse and other ones. Now, in that ordinance we're recommending a
minimum of 10,000 square feet for the R-2. The other districts would require a
minimum lot size as established in the district itself. I don't know if that's
what he's looking at, a preliminary draft prepared on the new proposed ordinance
that has not been recommended to the City Commission by the...
Mayor Ferre: What he's saying is he cannot meet those requirements under which
you have...now.
Mr. Jacobs: Right, we can't reach the requirements of 10,000 square feet if
we're going to...
Mr. Acton: Ok. I think the proper procedure is to have this gentleman meet
with either myself or the planner in my department to discuss with him the new
standards. This is not the time, I don't think or place...
Mayor Ferre: Is he grandfathered in?
Mr. Acton: Yes, he would be if he's operating an existing program.
Mayor Ferre: You're not? Is his an existing program?
Ms. Linda Sloate: We've been working with Mr. Acton and I do want to commend
him, but I just got a letter from you... I'm Linda Sloate, regional coorc'inator
for the Florida Bureau of Drub Abuse Prevention. We license all residential and
non-residential drug treatment and education programs in Dade and Monroe Counties.
Mr. Jacobs' program is only one of many that is in a dilemma that I wanted to
bring to you that includes the concept of lot size but is a little bothered in
that. And that is that we have been working now with this Commission and with
your Planning Department for almost 2 years on the drafting of this ordinance
and with the exception of the lot size on this substance abuse ordinance, not
the one on Community based treatment facilities that may take us another four
months to get before you that we are working on. According to a letter dated
March 24th from Mr. Acton to myself it says that only 2 of our existing resi-
dential. programs will be grandfathered in and that that was a decision of the
Law Department as requested by Mr. Lynch for Mr. Acton's reply to me. And we've
been under the impression from the very beginning that existing residential and
non-residential treatment programs will be allowed to get the certificate of
occupancy that has now been held up for over 18 months because nobody will come
in effect to see whether or not they can get it until the ordinance is passed
and now you know the amendment to the ordinance and this has lasted for ages,
The letter specifically says that the Law Department informs us that existing
facilities with certificate of occupancy permits would be grandfathered in
under the ordinance but that facilities operating without a certificate of
occupancy which again I reiterate they have not been able to get while this
whole process has been going on and all new facilities would have to go through
the public hearing process and conform to standards established by Substance
Abuse Facilities amendments - The amendments before you in 14 (b). My concern
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is not only the particulars of this amendment but the fact that if once
passed the entire section 14 today will become effective according to this
latest letter in 30 days and then we will just be able to get your people to
come out to inspect to find out whether or not we can get the certificates
based on these standards. And after two years I think it is an incredibly
long period of time. Thank you.
Mayor Ferret Now, where do we stand? Mr. Acton, Mr. Andrews, t can't help
but agreeing. You know it takes us so 1cnq getting these things done and then
we end up doing something that we only et.andfather in two of them and it creates
all kinds of problems and then you put cut the type of restrictions that obvious-
ly,— You know most of these operations can't live with that type of a minimum
of 10,000 foot requirement, 20,000 loot. requirement.
Mr. Acton: I think we're mixing apples ... This ordinance was formulated
upon the recommendation of the City Commission quite some time ago back when
Dr. Ben Sheppard appeared regarding residential drug rehabilitation programs.
So if the Commission recalls the Mangler did appoint a three member committee
and we started drafting substance abuse ordinance for your consideration. But
I believe Miss Sloate is speaking about y certificate of occupancy which in-
volves building code restrictions and has nothing to do with this particular
ordinance. I don't know where Mr. Ferencik is but the problem of building
code violations that must be corrected in order to be issued a certificate of
occupancy lies with the Building Department
Mr. Plummer: Well, but I think, George, what she's talking about unless
she had the 10,000 square feet. Right.?
Mr. Acton: Under this new ordinance that's correct but there are existing
programs running in various parts of the city and they haven't been issued a
certificate of occupancy because they must meet or bring the building up to
minimum building code standards and that's the reason they haven't been issued
the certificate of occupancy....
Mr. Plummer: Well, lot me ask you this. How in the hell are they even allowed
to operate without a cert..ficatc of u 'cul,ancy? I couldn't go out here and build
a building today and open it tomorrow if I didn't have a certificate of occupancy.
How are these people being allowed to operate anything? Not just substance abuse
facilities but any kind of facility without a C.O.? I don't understand that.
Mr. Ferencik: From time to time over the pest years some of these drug abuse
and work release centers, one type of a r.•enter or another have gone into operat-
ion without any permission. Now whenever we find this we immediately go in and
the Building Department and the Fire Department and we cause these people to up-
grade these properties. Now some of these work release centers, their occupancy
amounts to nothing more than the same type of occupancy as an apartment house and
there is no real control that's exercised by the present zoning ordinance. This
is why we've recommended for a long time that these special provisions be put in
the zoning ordinance so there would be definitive control. Now there are none of
these units operating around the City of Miami at the present time to the best of
my knowledge that don't have certificates of occupancy.
Ms. Sloate: Mr. Plummer, excuse me, I don't know your name but I respectfully
have to disagree with that. One of the reasons that there are programs operat-
ing without certificates of occupancy is because when applied for they were told
there was no category under which they fit. That's what this all started two
years ago.
Mr. Plummer: No. Please, you're getting off of what I'm saying. George is
telling me right now that most of these facilities that are operating today are
not operating because of zoning but because of standards - that's the minimum
South Florida Building Code. Now you know :somewhere along the line this city
had better wake up and we'd better stop letting people get inside and then we've
got to fight to get them out. Now if what you're telling me is trye our codes
and our police authority aren't worth A tinker's
Mr. Ferencik: You know we're talking generalities. I don't know the specific
places they're talking about. Dr. S}repperd not too many months ago was up here
over a work release center which he'd established out in the Grapeland Heights
area and we made him move out of it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, how did he get into it in the first place?
Mr, Ferencik: Well, he just went in, They went in without our knowledge.
Village South is operating without a certificate of occupancy...
Mr. Plummer: And whathas been done about making them cease the operation?
Mr. Ferencik: It's in Circuit Court at the present time. It's in litigation:
Mr. Plummer: But you see, if yogi didn't let them get in or you moved them
out you wouldn't have to take and spend all of this taxpayer's money to tie
our lawyers up for months and months and months.
Mr. Andrews: I respectfully ask how do you get them out?
Mr. Plummer: Well, now I'1.1 tell you. if I've got to go drawing you pictures.,.
Look, if I go out here tomorrow and 1 open up a funeral home and I put it right
in the middle of a residential area. Are you telling me that you can't go in
there and tell me, "No, sir, you're not ding to operate that funeral home,"
And I say no, you're going to take me through the processes of court.
Mr. Andrews: night.
Mr. Plummer: That's ridiculous!
Mr. Ferencik: We very recently turned the electricity off on a unit that was
operating without a certificate of occupancy and two days later the Circuit
Court ordered us to put it back on.
Ms. Sloate: I think there are two different issues, one is zoning and one
is the other basic building standards. Now in terms of the standards our prob-
lem has not been meeting or not meeting them. It has been that one inspector
won't come out unless we already have the other thing. Ok? Now Mr. Jacobs
went and asked for a certificate of occupancy and he can give you the specifics
as what occured and what he was told. We like the new ordinance with the ex-
ception of the minimum lot size but our concern is that by the time it becomes
effective, you know each program has to go through several hundred hearings
and then to find out that they do or do not meet the standards that have been
set after their existence; and we've been under the assumption from the very
beginning that meeting these standards would be a requirement of new facilities
not existing facilities. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: What are you shaking your head about?
Mr. Andrews: We're talking about the regulation by government of the use of
private property and how difficult it is and Mr. Lloyd should really be telling
you this, how difficult it is to force people to conform. Conformance can come
about but sometimes it takes a long time through the court process to do so.
Mr. Plummer: What you're telling me is that our laws aren't worth a tinker's
•
Mayor Ferre: Oh no, you'd better ask Bill Frates who's sitting right here in
the audience and he can tell you better than anybody else can that the word
legislate, which we're supposed to be doing around here comes from the word
legislatus in Latin which means to put into affect that which exists in spirit
which means in other words that you cannot legislate laws that are unenforce-
able because what happens is exactly what is happening - mainly nothing.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, you know I appreciate your lesson in Latin.
Mayor Ferre: I knew you would.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you something. It is beyond my wildest dream that
existing in this city right now in a totally R-1 district, single family homes
it is consistently single family homes there is a problem existing with 40
people living in one house and that this city cannot through its police powers
do anything about it. Now I ,just can't buy that. Well what in the hell good
are any of the laws that we enact?
Mayor Ferre: That's the point.
Mr. Plummer: Now, all I'm saying is we've got this situation in the Grove and
if I lived next door to it I don't think I would be as amenable as those people
are that at 11:30, 2 and 3 O'Clock in the morning they've got these people out
there screaming and hollering in the name of the Lord, if you will. Well,
friend this administration hasn't found them because it's been going on noW for
almost 6 months. They went down there and turned the electricity off. The
courts turned it back on. I don't understand that kind of stuff:
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Mr. Plummer: The legal proces::, they can have 4 unrelated people in there;
that's it, that's the law. Now we go down there... You mean to tell me that
the City cannot go down there and physically enforce the law?
Mt. Andrews: Yes, we could physically enforce the law but you can't physically
evict people. The city does not have the power, as I understand it, to physi-
cally evict people from private'propert.y.
Mr. Plummer: Even if they're breaking the law?
Mr. Andrews: Well, the law, the particular law you're talking about is set by
the City of Miami and in those kinds of legislative laws they don't have the
strength that state laws have. Now Mr. Lloyd, you'd better speak up to this
so that you can give that a better explanation...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, you'd better because the way its going down there tomorrow
or 30 days from now you're going to have 80 people living under that one roof.
I don't understand... I know you've got a hearing; you've had all kinds of
hearings. You've had hearings for turning off the water, you've had hearings
for turning off the electricity but the simple fact remains that they're still
there thumbing their nose at us and the people in that area are suffering because
of it.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Lloyd, explain this to me, sir. If what I heard said here
a few minutes ago and I wanted to build an apartment house in a single family
residence all I have to do is to tell you to go to hell and go on and build it.
Is that what you're telling me? Now wait a minute, man. If what I just said
is not true and you're shaking your head then I want to know how it is that if
they don't have the right to occupy where they are how do they do it? You know
either the laws are operative or they're not operative. Now I'll tell you what
I'm going to do. I'm going to watch to see because if what I hear based on
what Plummer said is true then I'm going to make sure that you will have to
check that law and you're going to have to go to court and fight like hell to
uphold our right to do what we do.
Mr. Lloyd: We have the alternative, of course, when ire find a violation of
law of proceding according to the penalty violations of our Code and going to
court and finding these people guilty of a violation. And if we do that maybe
they get fined and they keep on doing it. We go back to court again and the
process is repeated and eventually the courts find them guilty. Now I also
understand that with this particular area the State of Florida even though
they are in violation still continues to give them funds which is wrong. But
what we're talking about in the Coconut Grove is the Harry Krishna. Now as
Mr. Ferencik has suggested, pursuant to the South Florida Building Code he
instructed the appropriate officials to turn off the water and electricity.
They were in court a day or two later; we were enjoined temporarily from doing
that. Now pursuant to the commission authority we have filed a counter claim
against them to permanently enjoin them from either being in there. Now the
only alternative would be to move city forces down there and physically move
them out and I hesitate to state to you what would happen to us legally if we
attempted to do that.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Doesn't the law presently state that they cah have
5 unrelated people living in the same household? That's the law.
Mr. Lloyd: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Well when the sixth person moves in they have violated the law.
Is that correct?
Mr, Lloyd. Yes.
Mr. Plummer; A11 right, Now is there anything to stop the administration, and
I don't want to talk to one given issue please. I'm not trying to pick on any-
body; any area that you want, anywhere in the City of Miami. Is there anything
tp stop you since they have now violated the law to take out a warrant for their
arrest?
Mx, Lloyd: We do that all the time and we've got a conviction.
Mr. Plummer: You know, this is beautiful. You've got all of this and you
know what you've got? A hell of a lot of paper because they're still down
there thumbing their nose at you.
Mr. Lloyd: Now just a minute.' This is the very reason why I appeared before
this commission of requested t're commission to give me authority to file a
counter claim in the suit that they brought against us to permanently enjoin
them Both being in there and evict them. The hearing is coming up shortly on
that.
Mr. Plummer: I'll just send a letter of condolence to the people that live
around there because obviously you all aren't going to get anything accomplished,
Mr. Lloyd: I think it is premature to make that statement.
Mr. Plummer: Well, maybe it is unfair but all I know is... Did you see the
new sign in my office? The only measurement of ability is result's - and the
results are they're still there. Now when you show me that they're out or liv-
ing within the law of 5 or under in that house then 1 can measure the results.
At this point I see no results. Now if that's unfair, I'm sorry.
Ms. Sloate: Excuse me, I don't want to belabor the issue and I share Mr. Plummer's
concern about law abiding citizenry. I don't think with some other agency or
family has a whole lot of bearing on this but I would like to share with you maybe
an example of how difficult complying with the law can become. When a program,
any program two years ago wanted to move into a residential, and I'm not even
talking about R-1 I'm talking about R-4 areas, they had to find out about whether
or not they were going to be able to live there in order to sign the lease. Then
if they signed the lease because they were told that the zoning permission or
occupancy would be given once they'd met building standards. They would move in,
sign a lease spend the money for rennovations that would bring them up to those
building codes to find out that there was no category for them within zoning.
Mr. Plummer: Shouldn't they have found that out before they ever spent the
first dime?
Ms. Sloate: But that isn't what they were told.
Mr. Plummer: Who told them?
Ms. Sloate: I don't know who was here then.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Ferencik was.
Mr. Andrews: Wait a minute. You'd better point out that most of these get
started by the organization moving into an area.
Mr. Ferencik: You know you're talking about something that has taken place
over a number of years. The first units that came in here were generally drug
rehabilitation centers. Lc'i me name one specifically was Spectrum. Spectrum
came in and they moved into a house up on N.E. 38th Street or somewhere in that
neighborhood. They just moved in it. Now as soon as we found out they were in
there we went up there and we told these people that they did not meet certain
minimum safety requirements and that they had to take immediate steps to make
certain corrections in the property. Now most of you know this program. Father
Harrison is the head of the program. There is no category specifically in the
zoning ordinance that deals just exactly with this subject so we were faced with
trying to maek those things in the ordinance fit. We finally told these people
in general that they could go into R-3 property, existing R-3 property and most
of this stuff they tried to get into was old existing buildings. I don't know
the particular property the lady is talking about. The Spectrum House it is in
an R-3 or R-4 zone; they moved into it and they made the necessary corrections
and as far as I know it is in operation to this day. Now the first thing you
know some of these places started getting funded thorugh federal and state
sources and they started talking about making some pretty big investments in
properties, building things for this particular purpose. And at that point in
time we said we believe that before you go any further a study should be made,
certain definitive ground rules should be set up and ordinances should be amended
so that everybody knows exactly what direction they're heading in. There's no
question but what there were a bunch of old properties that were put to this
purpose and some of them were marginal, some of them are marginal. The Salvation
Army runs one downtown; they run a rooming house in a building that for the last.
35 years has been a rooming house. All they do is occupy it under the name of
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the Salvation AFtmy and the people that live there don't pay tents They live
in there free now where formerly the same groups of people lived and paid rent.
Now this doesn't really seem to do any great violence to the zoning ordinance
but problems arose. What I think this lady is trying to tell you is is hopefully
this ordinance is designed to cissolve these problems and that's what you're being
asked to do is to pass that ordinance so we do have these ground rules.
Mr. Plummer: If we do pass this ordinance and they don't wish to comply and
they move in we're still going tc have to go through the long drawn out proced-
ures that you've followed in the past to get them out. Is that correct?
Mr. Ferencik: If the Law Department advises me that we can go down there with
bulldozers I'm all for it. Don't misunderstand me but I signed a swort state-
ment on the property in the Grove that there are pressing dangers on that prop-
erty and the Circuit Judge saw fit to set the hearing on May the 8th.
Ms. Sloate: We are in favor of this ordinance. My only question about it is
that those that are in the process of cc.nplying with existing building code
standards using whatever funding they can'get, federal and their own for renno-
vation purposes to do such are not going to be able to get a certificate of
occupancy in 30 days when this comes down saying that they have to have certain
square feet and things that they don't now have.
Mrs. Gordon: She makes a very valid point and 1 think we're really going over
this thing multi -times. How can we solve it, Mr. Ferencik? Should we defer
this for 30 days and then that would make it 60 days, the date of compliance or
you suggest some other remedy.
Mayor Ferre: Let's not defer anymore...
Mrs. Gordon: Well, let's give it a solution because there is a problem here.
Mr. Ferencik: If you adopt the ordinance existing premises they're then going
to become legal non -conforming uses...
Mrs. Gordon: They don't have a C.O. yet, that's what she says.
Mr. Ferencik: Well I don't know what they have tc do to get the C.O., I
would have to evaluate whether....
Ms. Sloate: They have to meet existing standards is what they've been told
and the new standards are stricter than the existing standards which means that
they won't be able to be grandfathered in.
Mr. Ferencik: If that's the problem which I don't know if administratively, as
long .is they've made the application we would regard it as a problem. If you
want to give the lady the relief say that any applications that are in process
are acceptable under...
Mrs. Gordon: If you will say that then that would solve her problem. Is that
correct?
Ms. Sloate: Including the square footage.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, that's what he's saying; any application they've processed
will be considered as grandfathered.
Mr. Acton: Mr. Mayor, I just want to bring up one point. This pertains only
to those residential facilities that are presently allowed to operate under the
zoning ordinance. In other words we can't grandfather their use in because
of the zoning. In other words there is an incompatable use in that particular
category.
Mr. Plummer: You're not in any way indicating to waive the South FLorida Build-
ing Code? They've got to come up to Code. Ok.
Mrs. Gordon: Does that solve the problem where you're concerned?
Ms. Sloate; Does that include the question of space as well as the building
Code?
Mrs. Gordon:. If you meet today's code and you've made an application you would
not fall short because of time,
Mayor Ferree We have to move ahead. Now if it doesn't solve the problem
here's what I'm going to tell you: I will recognize you anytime in any future
commission meeting if you have a problem or you haven't been satisfied you come
here and I'll recognize you at that time. That solves the problem for how.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO, 6871, THE COM-
PREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
AMENDING ARTICLE IV BY ADDING A NEW SECTION 43,
ENTITLED "SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES", PROVIDING
FOR STANDARDS FOR SAID FACILITIES; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN
CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reacting by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975 was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Gordon, seconde3 by Commissioner Plummer, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second Ind final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8386.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COM-
PREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
BY INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILIT-
IES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN ARTICLE VI (R-2 --TWO
FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT); REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR
AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABIL-
ITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adop
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
March 12, 1975, was
tion.
Gordon, the
by title and
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8387.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
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or.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COM=-
PREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI,
BY INCLUDING NON-RESIDENTIAL SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACIL-
ITIES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN ARTICLE VIII (MEDIUM
DENSITY MULTIPLE --R-4 DISTRICT); REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CON-
FLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAIN-
ING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second .and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commiss.ionelr Rase Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) The-odmre Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, .lr.
Mayor Maurice A. rerrc'
NOES: None
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8388.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6A71, THE COM-
PREHENSLVE ZONIM: CJ.'.h1A1ANCE t'c)R THE CITY OF MIAMI,
BY INCLUDING NON-RESIDENTIAL SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACT.L-
ITE1S AS A PERMITTED USE IN ARTICLE XII (LOCAI, COM-
MERCIAL -- C-1 DISTRICT): 1I;r'1'A1.1t4G ALL ORDINANCES,
CODE SECTIONS, OR PART:; '1'Ii1 lti'lrt' IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR
AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABII.-
ITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 12, 1975, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor. Maurice A. Ferro
NOES: None
Mr ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORD.INANCI. NO. R 389.
The City Attorney zeal the ordinance i.r►to the public record and
lun)O'J0Ce(1 that copies wore available to the members of the Ci ty
Commission and to the public.
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41. CREATE ADVISORY COMIITTEE - SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITIES
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING AN ADVISORY
COMMITTEE ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE; PROVIDING FOR COM-
POSITION, TERM OF OFFICE, PURPOSE AND RESPONSI-
BILITY, CONDUCT OF MEETINGS, REPORT AND RECOM-
MENDATIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECT-
IONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT INSOFAR AS
THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Gordon,
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner. Rose Gorton
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and
seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plumper, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8390.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and announced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
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POSSIBLE PURCHASE BY ItN,Y OF CITY OWNED
42 r DISCUSSION ITEM; PROPERTY: 1.1.45 N,W. .L.L `'ST. FOR_ USE AS
JUVENILE REHABILITATION CENTER ETC,
Mr, Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I bring this point up while I've still got it
on tity mind and I don't want: it to pass this day? Yesterday as your repre-
sentative to the Crime Commission, Mr. Jack Sandstrom the man who is in charge
of Dade County Corrections and Rehabilitation spoke at the Crime Commission.
They are experiencing as I have brought: to the attention of this commission on
many occasions proper facilities of all kinds for juveniles. I have spoken in
the past with the City Manager about what is to become of the police station
on llth Street and 12th Avenue now owned by the City of Miami Which We Will be
vacating approximately April of '77. Mr. Mayor, in '76. Mr. Mayor, there is
no question in my mind that the problems that they're having that the city could
be very beneficial in helping them mold some kind of an overall planning for
jeuvenile facilities. I would like to offer a motion at this time that the City
Manager start talking with the county in relation to the acquisition hopefully
by purchase by Metropolitan Dade County with the stipulation attached that these
premises will be used for jeuven_il" facilities, giving them the broad scope of
what type of jeuvenile facilities they want. But:. I don't think that it is too
early', it is only a year off that we should ask our City Manager to start enter-
ing into discussion about what could be considered a vest, valuable piece of real-
estate. I would like to offer that in the form of a motion or Mr. Attorney, if
it is a resolution that gives the manager that latitude and authority at this
time.
Thereupon the preceding motion was introduced by Mr. Plummer, seconded by
Mrs. Gordon and passed and adopted by a unanimous vote.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson points out and I think it is a valid point, that if
you have other ideas for that that certainly you should share them with the com-
mission. In other words if you have another idea for that facility that this
should not in any way...
Mr. Plummer: Well he and I, that's the reason 1 brought it up. He and I have
talked about that.
Mayor Ferre: I know. Father says if you have another idea...
Mr. Andrews: I. certainly will.
Rev. Gibson: You see, let me say what I didn't say. I find it incredible to
know that we're going to vacate a building in 1976 and we who own the building
are not making some plans to use it. I just drop that for the Manager's con-
sideration. APR 101975
PERSONAL APPEARANCE
43, RENE COTERA
USE OF 1IAMI BASEBALL STADIUM
FEDERACION ATLETICA BASEBALL INVERNAL
MIAMI
•'r. Rene Cotera: t'y name is Rene Cotera, I live at 2fl1 La Fayette Drive. I
would like to ask once again of the commission to grant us the opportunity of
programming our second year for the Baseball League at the Miami Stad-
ium request we made before based on the same prices we paid last year.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and members of the commission, we've gone into this
matter and we find that there are still substantial costs that the city must
absorb in this. It is my understanding that last year that as the result of
the sale of tickets they had a head profit of $3,000 while the city supported
this function with tax dollars and I recognize the difficulty of this organ-
ization attempting to pay the full rental cost that we're requesting. Rather
than do that we've discovered that of the 141 players that participate in this
program 79 of these players are from outside of the City of Miami. So about
60% of the players that we're accomodating with tax dollars are not within the
City of Miami. My suggestion to the commission is that to be fair about this
that we take the minimum rental that we would charge which is $200 per single
game and $350 for a double header and prorate that into proportion to the num-
ber of people who are within the City of Miami and they pay the difference in
the rental.
Mayor Ferre: You'd better repeat that one again so that we can all understand
what you're saying..
Mr, Andrews; What I'm saying is that if you had a rental charge of $200 and
all the other costs were accounted for such as custodian, electricity and
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insurance and so forth and you wanted to charge a rental of $200 and you
had half of the organization representative of people living inside of the
City of Miami and half out then let them pay half of the rent, 50% of the
rent.
Mr. Reboso: Paul, let me ask you something. If they have to pay $200 per
game...
Mr. Andrews: I'm not saying that.
Mayor Ferre: He's saying proportionate to the number of Miami residents. Who
is going to police that?
Mr. Andrews: We will by the address they submit. That is how we got all of
their rosters...
Mr. Reboso: How much money did you gross last year?
Mr. Cotera: Around $26,000.
Mr. Reboso: Ok, if they gross $26,000 and you say in your memo here they
make a profit of $3000, can we arrange something with them let's say for
example that: beside:; expenses they paid last year they have to pay 10% of
the gate that they make? That would be about $2600.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, somewhere here we're getting off the track now. You
know, I'll tell you where I'm in a very desperate area. Where does this profit
go to?
Mr. Cotera: It goes into the organization. As a matter of fact, all the papers
we supplied to the City Manager it doesn't count the rest of the 8 months period
that we're not playing and we also have expenses so actually having all the expenses
taking up to about March where I make...
Mr. Plummer: But are there salaries in this thing?
Mr. Cotera: No, there is no salaries.
Mr. Plummer: Where did that $3000, what was it used for that was profit?
Mr. Cotera: Well we're using it now for the rest of the period of months
which is around 8 months between opening time and the season finish.
Mr. Plummer: For what purpose?
Mr. Cotera: Well, we've got to go letters and trips and all of that.
Mr. Reboso: They have a newspaper also, stamps, letters and so forth.
Mr. Plummer: Manolo, my only problem is subsidizing any profit making organ-
ization.
Mr. Reboso: That is the reason I'm proposing 10% of the gate. That is more
or less the profit that they are making...
Mr. Andrews: I appreciate the direction that the commission is thinking of
going but let me just point out one factor and then we can get into others
if you wish. If they hold a night game, a single night game it costs us $45
an hour to keep the electricity on - $45 an hour. If the ballgarae takes place
3 hours that's $135 but they pay us based on last year $22 per game for elect-
ricity costs. So we automatically lose $120 on electricity.
Mr. Reboso: Plus 10% of the gate now. They are planning this year to have a
very good attendance.
Mr. Cotera: Well I'm willing to give 10% to the city if they ask me to. We're
not interested in making money but we're interested in running the program.
Mr. Andrews; If the commission chooses to set aside the rental then I think
it is fair at least irrespective of a 10% gate or what because I'm concerned
that that may not pay enough money that all of the expenses that the city bears
then should be met.
Mr, Plummer; Ok, I think that is fair.
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Mr. Reboso: Do you agree with that instead of the 10% to pay all the expenses
of the city except the rental?
Mr. Cotera: Let me make one thing clear. As far as the new prices are con-
cerned this is ridiculous to even think about running a program like this: The
prices this year as far as Mr. Jennings, the Director of Public Facilities has
sent me letters with... It rounds out to $629 per game which I don't think even
the Baltimore Orioles organization which is a major league team pays and this is
the price I'm getting this year.
Mr. Andrews: I'm saying that if you will just bear the expenses that the city
must provide in putting on these events and you'll pay that and the city not
accept any rental then I would recommend that to the Commission.
Mr. Reboso: It's fair, you don't have to pay any percentage just the expense...
Mr. Cotera: What I want to make clear, I just don't pant to agree to something
that we cannot come up with the money later on. You know?
Mr. Reboso: The City Manager is not going to tell you one expense and it's
going to be another one.
Mr. Andrews: What we will do is detail the expenses as we understand them
now, come back to this gentleman and we can get together with Mr. Jennings
so that you understand then clearly.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, before I vote I want to make sure he understands.
Sir, what I hear the Manager saying and what I propose to vote on is that
you bear the expenses of those games and that whatever they are, if they're
less than what you're paying fine. If they're more you have to pay. Now the
reason for that is I'm sitting up here because I know these kind of things
just kind of bother me. If 70% of all the people participating and the reason
you have those games is because you want the citizens to be actively engaged
in recreation. Isn't that right?
Mr. Cotera: I think It'll be good for the city.
Rev. Gibson: Ok, fine. What we're saying also that nobody up here at this
table is saying but I'm prepared to say today because this is the way I feel
that I think the other cities where these people live need to share a corres-
ponding responsibility and not load it on us. Do you see what I mean?
Mr. Cotera: I wish there were 25 Miami Stadiums in the whole city you know...
Rev. Gibson: My brother, let me make my point. Because there aren't 25 and
there's only one and that we have to continue drain the tax coffers the people
who live in the City of Miami that. constitute 251 or thereabouts of the popul-
ation of the county we feel that we have an obligation to the people who live
within the City limits of Mlami who can continue to pay this burden, this bill;
we feel that we have an obligation to them. Now you know I feel that way strong-
ly because what I see is if we have to put money for turning en the lights then
we aren't going to have enough money to clean up the streets because I was mad
as all hell this week when I went out in front of my house and some of those
streets looked like a dump. Do you understand what I mean? Ok, beautiful.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-334
A MOTION TO WAIVE THE PEES FOR THE USE OF THE MIAMI
BASEBALL STADIUM BY THE FELL•:RACION ATLETICA BASEBALL
INVERNAL MIAMI FOR THE 1975 SEASON UPON PAYMENT OF THE
CITY'S EXPENSES FOR THIS OPERATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre
NOES: None.
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44, PROPOSED LOCATION OF VELODROME ALSO
NEWLYDISCUSSION CONSTRUCTEDFBIKELTS PATNE
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, we have a map that we would like to show the Commission :is
to the location of the velodrome and how we believe we can go about successful in-
stalling a velodrome within the City of Miami. We follow the City Commission suggest-
ion and looked at Robert King High Pnrk and find that the velodrome can be success-
fully put in there and used for other purposes. Now, our estimate based on the des-
cription of what really constitutes a velodrome. It appears to build this,
according to the standards that are required wi11 cost about $90,000.00. Now, there
is hope to overcome to that kind of cost. A great deal of that cost is in the field
and the compacting and a rolling of that surface in order to put the asphalt materials
down to build it. Director of Public Works and other staff people in the city will
be looking for buillemat.eria1s from various projects that are carried on in our
community so that we can build velodrome without any cost hopefully, of acquiring the
material. Our Public Works people will help pack it, then we will be in a position
to let a contract for the final asphalt work go on the velodrome and the final
Mayor Ferre:
see that you
Mr. Plummer:
Who is going to be involved in all of this, if they will call me, I will
get the fill, ok?
What did that reduce the price, just now?
Mr. Andrews: I don't know, I am not going to fiuo s, because 1 will get in trouble
guessing.
Mayor Ferre: I can't see how it could possibly be $90,000,00.
Rev. Gibson: If you say you are going to give us the fill, we aren't worried about
the cost.
Mr. Dave Balkin: Well, I have something to say about this, it's possible I've been
talking to some manufactures of bicycles components who are interested in promoting
a velodrome, Miami being a tourist city and it is possible one of the things that I
have been concerned about was a scoreboard and a clock which a company like
would put in,this alone is about a $30,000.00. This facility as a tourist attraction;
my concept of a velodrome is to negotiate a constract similar to what is done over
in Miami Beach open to anyone but 1 would like to be a promoter of the velodrome.
Mayor Ferre: Well, now Dave, let
begining to see a different .light
this as a promoter and to promote
to individuals here.
Mr. Dave Balkin: I think this
only one in the country of any
have national championship and
is going to bid on them,
Mayor Ferre: Well, I think we
and I think the guys are going
pay for this thing, and either
charging them.
me tell you something, in view of now and I am
on this, if you tell me that you are looking at
things that are going to be of economic benefits
's going to be a economic4to the city because it's the
professional standards and it seems to reason if you
state championship and world championship that Miami
ought to do the same thing we do with the Orange Bowl
to benefit economically by it - we ought to be able to
we pay for it now or we will pay for it later on by us
Mr, Andrews: I highly recommend that we follow that process that if the city is going
to do this,we build this and then we charge the people who put these kind of events
out,
Mayor Ferre: Well, I want to go on record right now as being one vote that if we
are going to build this and it's going to cost us taxpayers money, we are going to
get it back by charging them,
Mr. Dave Balkin: I agree with that, certainly and I also agree that the facility
can be used as an educational facility during the times when it's not being used for
promotional facilities and therefore benefit the community that this is a good
deal for everybody. My only question is what period, the Manager tells us to be
patient which we are certainly willing to be, but what period of time are we tacking
about?
idea
pate Balkin! The original the City Commission was to have a velodrome completed
by 1976 for Bayfront Park which since the Manager has rejected,
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Mayor Ferre: Well, I certainly hope that your engineering is better than your spelling,
Mr. Dave Balkan: I didn't spell it.
Mrs. cordon: Mr. Andrews, can you answer the question?
Mr. Andrews: No, I can't at this moment. I will send the Commission a memorandum and
I will imforin you and we will try to plot nut how long it will take us to achieve this.
Mrs. Gordon: Could we express what we would like to see take place? 1 personally, would
like to see this ready for the Bicentennial which is a few months.
Mr. Dave Balkan: If we had any kind of a commitment, I. would have been in contact with
the Presiaent of several International. Organizations about the use of the proposed
velodrome and all are very interested in corning to Miami and using this facility.
Mayor Ferre: Paul, why don't you get somebody that can really give us a break down
about how much this is going to cost, t can't possibly believe that this is going to
cost $90,000.00
Mr. Plummer: I can.
Mayor Ferre: How?
Mr, Plummer: If a bathroom facility costs $56,000 you are not too far off with bicycles.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, all you are talking about is fill, sod, etc.
Mr. Andrews: Irrigation system ,---
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Andrews, couldn't this be part of the park bonds issue money, because
it is to develop another park?
Mr. Andrews: No,it can't he because you have specific projects designated in your point
of task force and you gave them allocations of funds, they .iave had public meetings with
so many members of the community, projects have been selected, and we are underway with
most of those for that parpand other parks.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but the park had a specific allocation of something like 200,000 of
their bonds.
Mr. Andrews: 1 don't think so.
Mrs. Gordon: Why don't we move with that, that's part of the parks development_?
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a motion then that we ....
Mr. Plummer: Are you going to come back with a price value? I will second it.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, and we are going to come back with a way of where you are going to
get the money beside the filling you are going to get from somebody. There is a motion
and a second, further discussion call the roll.
Mr. Southern: Mr. Mayor, I would like a little more clarification on that motion.
Mayor Ferre: The motion is that we approve in principle the the establishment of
a velodrome which is a fancy name for a bicycle raceway somewhere in the Robert King
High Park is outlined in a drawing submitted to this Commission and made a part of this
record, further discussion call the roll.
Mrs. Gordon: Also that it he
be completed by the Bicentennial.
Mayor Ferre: To he completed by the Bicentennial, the Manager to come b ae•k with the
specifics on the exact cost and where you are going to find the money to do it, call
the roll.
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The following motion was intrcduced by Commissioner Gordon; who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75- 335
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A VELODROME IN '1'Ht: VICINITY OF ROBERT KING
HIGH PARK, AS OUTLINED N SKETCH SUBMITTED THIS
DATE, WITH COMPLETION To BE IN TIME FOR TIIE
BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IF POSSIBLE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner. (Rev.) Theodore Gipson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: While we are on the subject of bicycles Mr. Manager, the last time
we talked about this section along South Bayshore Drive which I am horrified at
because it's a very dangerous intersection for bicycles. The light is there, there
is a left turn lane, the road narrows and we have got to do something.
Mr. Dave Balkin: If I may address myself to that, I had the opportunity to ride
there with Jim Kay and a comment of mine was that the only good part of
the path that I could see,it5hat it was near a hospital, in truth three times during
the ride Mr. Kay inadvertently, we were riding at perhaps, three or four, or five
miles an hour talking and discussion the path, he forced me out into oncoming traffic.
Mayor Ferre: I noticed the way you are saying it, that you were on the outside lane
and he was on the inside lane.
Mr. Dave Balkin: Exactly, he had his own problems because he had to deal with the
concrete wall that faces the path. The fact is that these ?icycle paths For recreation
inspire or lead people to believe that it's a recreational facility and they tend to
rubber neck, they look around, well the penalty for that is on one side you have concrete
light poles and on the other side you have a concrete wall. You have bus benches, you
have telephone facilities, you have a sign that's capable of `(ff4?4t; people on it and
the fact is that it borders upon criminal negligence to call that a path, especially on
a road which requires no path. Bayshore Drive is more than two lanes wide in each
direction there and the current use nt that road is such that, bicycles and ears travel
the road relatively well.
Mayor Ferre: Get to the point Dave.
Mr. Dave Balkin: The point is that the path is absolutely non viable, it is a dangerous
facility, it is broken out throughout It's whole route, it's difficult to follow, it is
more dangerous in many respects in the main highway path which is totally useless at
this point, it's just simply a ---
Mayor Ferre: Well, we have it Paul-, what are you recommendation now?
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, 1 know this sounds Like a defensive argument, but if we waited
for everything to fall in place to awake a perfect bicycle path, to get everything accomp-
lished where everybody would like it we would never build a bicycle path.
Mayor Ferre: That's not the question?
Mr, Andrews: I know it isn't.
Mayor Ferre: How can we improve it, don't tell me that there is no way to improve it.
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Mr. Andrews: That's right and we recognize that there probably will be other
problems even after we solve all these.
Mt. Dave Balkin: The way to improye the path is either to pad the light poles
to put some signs telling people of the dangers, you see, because the path doesn't
(hake sense, what I say is a harsh udgment based upon reality.
Mayor Fevre: Dave, I. am worried about one particular section to 2 or 300 ft. where
the road narrows, there is a traffic light a conjestion of traffic, cars zip up
and down, there is a left turn lane so that, there is only one lane per traffic to
go through at that point. almost at that four lane portion beyond Mercy Hospital
and that bicycle path & the street are one and the same thing, except for a little
white line that separates them and it's a very dangerous point t think.
Mr. Andrews: One of the things that we arc;ning to do and part of that is ,along
the tennis play area across from the s hool ; ra portion of that we are going back,
and we looked at it again this a t L ernoon a:: we went out to lunch, we are go ing to
see if we can trove that over f ut the• another 8 f t . against the property line, if
we can get permission and move it so that there wi1.1 be an S ft. parkway between
the sideway and the road.
Mayor Ferre: See, what happens is that cars will. drive and 1 just stood there to
watch it and 80% of the cars will be driving over that white line --
Mr. Andrews: We think we might be able to get some easments and so forth to move
it over and soon as we do -
Mayor Ferre: In other words, what you are telling me is there is somebody working
on the problem.
Mr. Andrews: Oh, yes sir:
Mr. Dave Balkin: 1 think the solution would be is were the City Commission to
direct the Planning Department, Police Department, rnd :all of the departments involved
with bicycles to come ttp wtth comprehensive plan on bike ways or the velodrome there
should be bike ways to it -to have these things designed in a safe manner so
Bayshore route goes on sideways which are in the violations of state laws and you
have all sorts of conflicts and all sorts of different problems -- to direct the
Planning Department to come up with a plan how it should be done safely.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you a question, I always dislike in principle committees,
but sometimes when you get citizens committees that are really interested in the
subject involved --they sometimes become pests, but in a way they really move things
along, shouldn't we perhaps form a
Mr. Dave Balkin: We have a group called Bike Ways Now, which has been working --
Mayor Ferre: Has It been working with the administration?'
Mr. Dave Baskin: Yes,and we offer our services to the City of Miami, plus anybody
else who would like too join with us.
Mayor Ferre: Has it been accepted, has more people been consulting them? All right,
well, Paulwhv doesn"tsotneone in the next two or three months 1 would like for you to
come back with a full report to the. Commission as to where we stand.
Mr. Dave Balkin: One other thing,there is a couple of very dangerous points like
right out here in front of Dinner hey, there is no provision for yeilding right of
way, who has the right of way, is the bicyclist assuming that he has or someone
coming out the driveway here?
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me put it to you this way, if I were driving a bicycle and
I saw a car coming, i would assume that he has the right of way.
Mr. Dave Balkin: I agree with you, but -- are you going to tell that to the kid in
the hospital,you know something has to be done now before there is a serious injury.
Mayor Ferre; Well, then you are talking about the signs, which is what Mr, Andrews
is talking about. I would say in an important intersection the automobile is going
to have the right of way and you may as well face it. I mean you may not like that
philosophy, but that's life.
Mr. Dave Balkin: No, 1 understand that hut I am just saying like let's do iL now,
Mayor Terre: All right, thank you. Now, we are going to take up item l6 19j
Herbert Lee Simon, Re -Certification of 40 year cold builds, which by the way,
is a Metro move, not one: by the City of Miami.
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45, PERBERTLLEEPE RANCE PE -CERTIFICATION OF 40 YEAR
OLD BUILDINGS
Mr. H. Simon: 1 am a little disappointed after hearing you Mr. Mayor, say earlier '
that a City of Miami resolution of t.h,: County Commissioners doesn't mean very much
because 1 atn herd to request the resoiution to the county. There was a public hearing
held on this ordinance for re -certification of 40 year old buildings before the
County Commission on March 18th, do vcw Commissioners have a copy of the ordinance,
if not I've got copier; here for you What this ordinance does is to require tl-,e
re -certification of all buildings with eece}bons of single family homes and duplexes
on their 40th birthday and also with the ex:eption; of buildings of less than 2,000
sq.ft. on their 40th birthday, plus re -certification every ten years thereafter. Now,
my appearance , before the County Commission of the public hearing, a motion was to
defer for one month and later that deferment was extended to be taken up again before
the County Commission on May 7th, and in the meanwhile as I said 1. would like an
ordinance from this City Commission, now what the ordinance does, just briefly, it's
a relatively short ordinance, is to require the owners of these buildings which covers
almost all buildings with exceptions of homes and duplexes that's apartments, ware-
houses, strip store,shopping centers , .and the like would have to hire at their own
expense a professional engineer with the title "P", to examine these buildings at
"40 years" and every 10 years thereafter, the owners af his expense to do this and
to give a certificate from the professional engineer to the Building Department cert-
fying that the bu t ld in;,; is a afc for eprtne e . Now, on it's surface, of course this
would appear to h., .a motherhood issu, ,,,,, all want the public safe and I think the
owners of the buildings would be no exception, but here is the reason why I consider
it bad. First, this increase the lost oi_ operation of income property, which will
either bankrupt the owner or cause rent increases to the tenants,because ultimately
all increases are passed on to the tenor-. t e if i t ' s possible, unless we have a
recession, I have eheeked with prof ess i ou:tt engineers :and I cannot find out what
the cost would be, of course buildings .are different sizes, different types of structures,
so they can't give me ::a cost, but a rel:;tieely small building is say it might be one
or two thousand dollars, hut 1 try to i;et even samp1a buildings that they examine by
professional engineers to give me a general idea of what the cost would be, I can get
none. To quote Mr. Ferencik at one of the committee meetings which I attended, the
county had appointed a committee because of the collapse of the Unger building. Mr.
Ferencik had said that to inspect any building for a professional engineer to put his
certificate on that it was absolutely safe he would have to make the building look like
swiss cheese and this is fairly obvious because he would have to drill holes in the
roof or underneath from the plaster and through the walls to check the concrete and
the foundation and so on. Uepending upon the type of inspection it would be required.
Mr. Ferencik also said, that there would be over 7,000 buildings in the City of
Miami alone that would come under this ordinance, so I think the cost would be
prohibitive -- not just for the examination, but what might be turned up from that
examination. Two, I think this will stagnate the sale of income properties. Now
already I - and I am speaking for the Board of Miami Realtors here as well as myself,
I for one, who is an investor .nn already hesitating in purchasing older buildings be-
cause we don't know what the outcome of this is going to be, what the cost will entail
and whether or not my building might be condemned because of such an examination.
Thirdly, this will prevent mortgage companies from making the normal length of
mortgage loans which is usually 20 or 30 years. How could they make this type of a
loan on a building that was 40 years old, or even 30 years old; even if they required
an examination at the time of the loan because this ordinance requires re -certification
every ten years thereafter. Fourth, and very importantly, there are no specifications
set out in tnrtt ordinance for the examination. It simply says that it much he examined,
now I understand from the county they want to pass the ordinance and later on set out
specifications by the Board of Rules and Appeals. I told the County Commissioners this
is like saying that we will condemn a man to the electric chair for a criminal act and
later on we will define what is a criminal act? By all means, if we are going to have
specifications they should be set out at the Lime of the passage of the ordinance. not
later on. Five, originally this ordinance included the licenses inspectors would not
only be professional engineers but also licensed architects, I had also requested that
building contractors who I thought was confident be included in this, they rule out the
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building contractors, perhaps because there was only one 1 think on the committee
and later somehow or another architects got ruled out so now it's restricted only
to professional engineers only to that one profession which really lures it up with
these fellows. Six, the ordinance wilt close down most commercial buildings in de-
pressed areas in my opinion because these bt:i Idings are not paying now, we manage
some of them, we take :r very minimum of rents out of it. Many vacancies of course,
now if we are required to have an inspection and if that inspection reveals , now
defects we have to out in quotes because it's defective in whose mind, if it's
truly unsafe, it should be -something done about it, but: I am afraid the added cost
will close down many of these buildings in the depressed areas. Now, solutions,
I think that either the ordinance should he eliminated completely, it's already
covered in 202.3 of the building code and by the wri' , the ordinance is a proposal
to amend the building code and I will read you thisone paragraph of the building
code (South Florida Building Code). the Intl..l.ding official on his own initiative
or as a result of its ports by others shall examine or cause to he examined every
building or structure appearing or reported to be unsafe and if such is found to
be an unsafe building or structure as defined in tliis section. The building official
shall post the property concerned and shall furnish the owner of such building or
structure, such written notice, the matter of posting and furnishing a written
notices provided here and after and then it provides for the kind of , so we
already have this in the law. If the buildings aren't being inspected there is no
point in making some other ordinance or some other law for a law where they already
have on the books. L also think that this could he included in; for instance, the
City of Miami now as you are probably aware you have an ordinance where we have
an annual inspection for every office and el7ery store. I don't think apartments are
included . 1 am not sure, you charge $10.00 to the occupant of each of these buildings
not just the building, but the occupant of each cubicle within that building and the
inspector is supposed to check for such things as zip codes and any violation. Now,
also he can look for obvious defects.
Mayor Ferre: I. am .just trying to sec if we can expedite this,hecause it is 5:00
and we have a long -- we got two or three hours left to work and I just want to
move along quickly now.
Mr. H. Simon: Thank you, fortunately I can leave after this one. There is not much
left, but it is 1. think quite important to the city's financial. Secondly, I think
that the ordinance could he left the way that. it is without specifications. In other
words, I am saving either eliminate, put in the specif.iciati.ons prior to passage or
agree to leave it like it is without specifications and leave the discretion up to
the examiner, also 1 think the single story buildings without a roof load should
certainly be eliminated from the ordinance, the reason this ordinance came about as
said was the collapse of the Unger building, we have had. I would like to point out
collapse of new buildings such as the Howard Johnson Building on Biscayne Boulevard,
the Levitz Furniture building, which 1 think was a year old, such as problems with
the Municipal Parking Garage, these were .c11 new buildings, so there is nothing
special about 40 year old buildings that should create their collapse. Single story
buildings, unless there is an unusual roof load shou d he eliminated from the order.
and .Z summarize. There is no nt'cf for such an ordinance and certainly no emergency,
it's a bad ordinance, bad for the property owner, bad for the tenant, bad for an
already shaky real estate economy, investors won't buy, mortgages lenders won't lend,
as I have already stated. We are already inserting a clause, personally in our
commercial leases that if extensive repairs are required, the lease can be terminated.
This is going to scare most of the tenants out of the property, but we feel that's
essential in the light of this ordinance. 1 am requesting respectfully that the
City of Miami pass an ordinance today and I would like a copy for my fat little hands
to take down to the Commission Meeting that you are opposed to this ordinance that
Dade County is attempting to pass.
Mayor Ferre: All right, let me ask the administration, because as 1 listen to your
arguments 1. think you have get a 1e>t of very valid points. ' I think if 1 were to take...r
adversary positionfcould argue for 1t or if I were given the role to debate you, l
think I could give you a lot of arguments that 40 year old buildings are a serious
concern in this community, we have potential collapses, that some of the construction
that dates heck that long ntavhe unsafe, that perhaps it wi 11 be a spur to new buildings
perhaps the elimination of these old buildings might be a good thing rather than a
bad, so there are two sides to it and 1 think that we need some in -put from the
administration on our position. I don't know whether we van do it in time --
Mr, Andrews: Mr.Mayor, if I may interrupt you, you can't achieve what you want to
accomplish today 4s far as understanding in greater detai 1 as ordinance because we
don't have the details to furnish you and it would be my recommendation that if you
did anything that rather than oppose it or approve it that you adopt the resolution
requesting that the county defer any action on this ordinance and for such time that
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they can furnish us with the specifications and details, tiers we can come back to
the Comr'ission with a positive recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: That I can go for. Is there such a motion? Mts. Cordon moves,
Mrs. Gordon: I don't see how they can even consider putting it through without any
specifications.it's too broad.
Mayor Ferro: All we aro saying is , that we wnnt more information and we are asking
that Metro defer it until we understand what it's .r11 about and nobody really
understands it because there is no lnformatimn •on this -------
The ordinance doesn't tell you anything;, you can go through it , it's just n very
broad type of a thing, it doesn't delineate specifics. There is :r motion by Mrs. Gordon,
is there a second': Further discussion, cn11 the roll.
SEE RESOLUTION NO. 75-'355 ADOPTED LATER ON IN THE MEETING.
Mr. H. Simon: Just a gestion Mayor, how does a copy of yourmotion today reach the
county?
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you deliver it for us?
Mr. H. Simon: I would he happy to.
Mr. Andrews: We will send it by mail, even though you can doiiver it.
46, ADD ADDITIONAL NAME:
32ND n\OAD ro DIXIE HIGHWAY
"COPERNICUS PLAZA ROAD"
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Mayor Ferre: Ok. Thank you very much And now we are going to take up item 1121, oh:
Mr. Ratcliff wi11 be out of town, so we will take up item 1 22, the discussion on
Copernicus Plaza Road, it's my pleasure to weicomcTcttiis chamber, Mr. Frank Stern, who
is indeed a noble citizen of Miami for many years and very active and has been for a
long time in our memorial as n secretary and serve the City of Miami for many years,
we are happy to have you with us Mr. Stern.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, in addition to this, the Memorial Committee had a second
recommendation but it isn't on the agenda, but it was to be taken up at the same
time, it was the Abe Goldman renaming of the Flagami Park.
Mayor Ferre: That isn't on the agenda. 'that's item 11 23, which is the next one.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh. 1 am sorry.
Mr. Plummer: So the record will he straight, now as 1 understand it, it will nut be
the renaming of the park but the facility in the park.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we are going to got into that. You are all out of turn, now let's
take up 22, who is going to speak on it, Weil as 1 understand it 1 will speak for it.
This is 32nd Road, the Momerial Committee deliberated on this and this is their
recommendation that was a request of Mrs. Blanca Rosensti 1 1 , 1 think this is called
the Polish -American, well anyway it one or the committees that are active in this
community, I think it's the Polish -American Florida Committee,. it's: from U.S. 1
over to South Bayshore Drive, right next to the Planetarium, I think it's two blocks.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, t am asking: Is chore any residential in there?
Mayor Ferre: None.
Mr. Plummer: in other words you don't tool titan it's necessary to keep us out of the
problem that we had on Southwest 13th Avonaro to hold the public hearing.
Mayor Ferro: I don't think .so, that': nay personal opinion and 1 think this
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, and members of the Commission, may 1 suggest that if you do
this that you name this for that portion in addition to the identification that 32nd
so it compliments 32nd ----
Mayor Ferre: Oh well sure, What it should say is Copernicus Plaza Road and under
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32nd or whatever it is, right. This is the recommendation of the Memorial Committee.
Now is there a motion ?
Mr, Plummer: If it's a recommendation of the Memorial Committee I will move it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, who seconds it? Mrs. Gordon seconds. Further discussion
call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-337
A MOTION NAMING S.W. 32ND ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH DIXIE
HIGHWAY AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE AS COPERNI.CUS
PLAZA ROAD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES:, None.
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47, NAME BUILDING IN FLAGAMI PARK "413E GOLDMAN BUILDING"
Mr. Plummer: Who wishes to speak on item 23?
Mrs. Gordon: I do.
Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: It is the recommendation of the Memorial Committee after deliberating
for a suitable location to memorialize the man who devoted many years of public
service, not only to the city where he has a very distinguished record, but to
humanity in general, and more particularly to those persons who are exceptional people,
retarded and physically disabled. The Memorial Committee thought that a suitable place
to give this man the honors that ho is due is the newly selected site for the park forthe
handicapped which is presently called the Fiagami Park and which would be renamed the
Abe Goldman Park. Mr. Stern would you like to address us with regard to anything
regarding this? Well that was what the Memorial Committee recommended that the park
be renamed.
Mr. Plummer: The park or the facility.
Mrs. Gordon: No. The Memorial Committer recommendation was that the park he renamed.
The building alone or the park. The information was given to me that it was the park.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Rose let me just intrrject something here, because you know, we so
easily allow ourselves to get into problems. Flagami is long established and you know
if the people in that area have no objection, but 1 will have to toll you this, I was
very close to Abe Goldman, I think it would be a great tribute to Abe Goldman, something
that this city could be proud of, but 1 will tell you quite truthfully, without a public
hearing for the purposes of renaming that park, I would have to have serious reservations.
Mrs, Gordon: I wonder ---
Mr. Plummer: Remember Peacock Park,
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Mrs. Gordon: I am not opposing of public hearings, J.L. I am for a public hearings,
if a public hearing should be held to rename it. I don't think that ,just naming the
building in itself is sufficient in order to express what we feel for Abe Goldman and
that's why I think not only the building, but the park and the building both qhuuld
bear his name.
Mr. Plummer: Well, if what you are saying Rose is that you would like to sot a date
for a public hearing for the possible name change of Flagami to Goldman Pork. I think
that would be in order.
Mrs. Gordon: I word it in two steps .1.L., I would go this route, I would mov.' to name
the building today, because the building has no name and then hold the public hearing
for naming of the park, ok?
Mr. Plummer: I think that's in order.
Mrs. Gordon: All right, then I would ....
Mr. Plummer: All right, you are making a motion at this tine to rename the facility,
the building.
Mrs. Gordon: It has no name as 1 understand it, the building doesn't, but leather Gibson
wishes to spaek.
Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, I have some concern about that.
Mr. Plummer: Would you rather do it all at one time at a public hearing?
Rev. Gibson: I would rather have the public tell us, thnt..one thing. Second thing is
before you even have the hearing and even when you have they hearing. Don't let us for-
get the fact that some of these older people or some of these organizers, or pioneers
of the city merit;yet that we keep them in mind and I don't- want us to negate. It might
well be since we are building a lot of things and during a lot of things, maybe we need
to wait and find a new -- 1 am in the business of moralizing the people. Man, you can
get in of a bind in a church if you start moving that altnr that was in the name
of somebody or if you start moving that pulpit that was in the name of somebody, people
don't always tell you what they think in instances like that and so I want us to be very,
very cautious and particular.
Mr. Plummer: What you are saying is that it is easier to move a preacher than it is
an altar.
Rev. Gibson: You believe me my brother:
Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask you a question, does Fingami from they historical point have
a meaning, is it named for a person? I didn't think it was.
Mr. Plummer: No, I think the sub -division is Flagami.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but is It any historical meaning?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's where Flagler Street and the Trail is, Flagler and ---
Mrs. Gordon: It isn't naming it for Mr. Flagler or his family or anybody like that, so
therefore it would not have what Father Gibson is afraid of is taking a family history
that's been there and removing it and putting somebody else, so I think that's applicable.
Mr.. Plummer: I think that at this time the best thing to do is for Mr. Andrews to give
us a date for a public hearing.
say
Rev. Gibson: Let me lust t its II.? You know, 1 am nut usually sentimental, but 1 have
learned that there is soin Value in history. Now, if the Memorial Committee ,if that is
so, the Memorial Committee aught to do some research and tell us how we got that name.
Mr, Plummer: Father, legit me tell you something, your memory ought to he better than mine.
because you are older than I am , but f can remember as a kid, the original name of that
park, Jack do you remember? Princess Park is where my Dad used to take me where they
raced the little midget racers and that was Princess Park. So, 1 know that Flagami really
can't have great significanc.c,ltin fact it was changed from Princess Park over to Flagami.
Rev, Gibson; Ok, let's go for a public hearing.
Mrs, Cordon; J,L. could I ask you a question? You and I have talked about Mr, Goldman and
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what he has contributed to society. The naming of the building ,clone in your
opinion, would that be a significant memorial to this great man?
Mrs. Gordon: You don't think .it would make any difference?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Kassewitz, I am sorry, could you use the microphone?
Mr, Kassewitz: The point is, trying to memorialize someone, whether it be a building,
or a park, or a facility, what have you. I think the idea is to memorialize someone
Who could get the ---- Was there someone by the name of Flaga►ni?
Mrs. Gordon: No.
Rev. Gibson: Since memorialzing is a part of my hussle. What purpose does the building
serve? Is that building for the handicap canter? All right, therefore; the building has
something to do with the service of the man and the park area sloes not necessary carry
within that, so if we name the building which serves a purpose for the handicapped, we
would have done in spirit the very thing you said and then we do not have to get in the
additional buying, we would have cleared eu►rselves In conscience .
Mr. Kassewitz: Father, If I may point out to you, that the State of Florida thought
enough of Mr. Goldman to name a beautiful building in his honor in Sunland, for tite
work that he did in behalf of the State of Florida, so I should think it would be
with significance that the City of Miami might name a very nice building for Mr. Goldman
too.
Father Gibson: Beautiful, that's what I was thinking.
Mrs. Gordon: In that case, we don't need a public hearing and I would move that we name
the building in Flagami Park which is being renovated and rebuilt for the needs of the
handicaps, "Abe Goldman Building".
Father Gibson: 1 second it.
• Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and .i second and I think it's a good motion. I would
like to support it. Call the roll at this time.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-338
A MOTION DECLARING THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION
TO DESIGNATE THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IN FLAGAMI PARK
AS THE ABE GOLDMAN BUILDING.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordan
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore, Gipson
Vice Mayor .i . 1.. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferri
NOES; None.
Mr. Plummer: 1 wou►.ld like to include that the appropriate type of dedication he
scheduled so that Mrs. Goldman can be present and the city officials,so that the
dedication can be done in a proper manner. Votes: Yes. (Additional comments .)
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. We will look forward to that dedication. Abe
Goldman served this community with great distinction for many years. Item 24 Discussion-
use of Marine Stadium for "Berthing of Seaplane and Conjunction with the Bicentennial
Around the World Seaplane Project.
84. APR 1 0 1975
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48t BRtEE DtscusstoN - BERTHING OF SEIIPL'iNM
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, and members of the Commission, you will recall that: when
this matter came before you once before, the decision was reached that, 1 should
explore the possibility and enter into agreement for placing of the berthing of
the seaplane down here at Dinner Key. We have found a better location than Dinner
Key at the Marine Stadium, however 1 want t:c reserve final judgment as to what this
whole project is about and come brick to the City Commission with a final conclusion
as to whether the City Commission wishes to continue entertaining, carrying out this
project on public property.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else rou want to add?
Mr. Andrews: No.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anybody e.lseAwho
ants to discuss it? '
Mr. Plummer: When is the boat dry storage opening up?
Mr. Andrews: We are hegining to receive reservations for it?
Mr. Plummer: When is the Askeet snooting up, when is the carpet golf opening up?
Mr. Cliff Haves: We are receiving bids on May 17th for the concessions for he
motor boat rides, the sail boat rentals. sailing school water skiing and padcle boat
rentals. We will have a hid in mid -Mar for Administer of Golf Curse for Concessior
Facilities. We have awarded the fencing for the boat storage and we have now 69
reservations.
Mr. Plummer:" 69 " for 100 spaces' don't like the word profit, right.
Mr. Cliff Hayes: We have to wait ior the second reading .af the ordinance appropriating
the money before we can really build the N41ce.
Mr. Plummer: How long has that Marine Stadium been there?
BICENTENNIAL PARK AREA
MOTION TO ACQUIRE 5 PARCELS
49, CONDEMNATION OF F,E.C, PROPERTY ETC,
Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on item 29, a resolution authorizing and directing
the City of Miami proceed in the triat of the City of Miami vs. Florida East Coast
Railway and the Circuit Court of the lltli Judicial Circuit in for Dade County for
the Condemnation of the 4 Parcels which the court has authorized the city to take and
in its order of February 11, 1973.
Mrs. Gordon: Let me speak to this one, beycause. 1 am very concerned - it's my feelings
that this would be a very costly step for the city to take, if I- am reading this correct-
ly we would be going in and taking ., small parcels out of the whole for some
reason that the cost of the small parcel., and the cost of the remainder would be higher
than the taking of the whole parcel, there would be certain expenses that are attributed
to severance cost and from the appraisal stand -point would he a very bad move, in my
opinion on our part , so 1 :speak against our going in this direction. I speak for going
forward for the whole thing In a very strong and positive manner.
Mayor Ferre: Would you Indicate to us which of the parcels that we can take?
Mrs, Gordon: I wish you to delineate when you say parcels the depths of the parcels,
please.
Mr, Andrews:(Shows them a chart delineating tl_e parcels). In doing so, questions
arrise, Father Gibson and others.
Mayor Ferre: Let's just go over the history of this, all right, sto we can .all remember.
We went to court on this thing and we lost, so then we got 4n appellate lawyer to help.
Mr. Horsack and along with our city attorneys, they wont up and the appellate judge
said both the City of Miami and the F.E,C. railroad have certain rights, since wee both
serve the public technically. Now, those parcels that are in use by the rai.l.rc�a.i
to serve the public. they accepted as the argument as being railroad use. The
railroad has a right to keep, this is what the courts say, those that the railroad
is using for a service station, they are going to put a Holiday Inn on 1t and all
these things that are non -railroad orientied, the City of Miami has n right to take,
because their really_ is no use, it serves the public and that's how we ended up with
this gerrymandering of properties. Now, in the meantime, the legislature,last year's
legislature passt4the bill and changed this, so that it says that a city has the
priority on property over a railroad. Now, we then amended our suit which is ,now
before the Supreme Court of the State of 'Florida to incorporate the new legislation
which went into law last April, May, or .Tune, whenever it became law, and that has
been sitting in the desk of some member of the supreme court for six months, since
June. We are now in the middle of April and the supreme court of Florida since June
has not seen fit to rule on this. How long they can take, how much longer they can
drag this out, nobody knows, sooner or later they are going to have to rule, if they
rule in our favour then we have thre right to take the whole property, then it's a
question of getting the monev and buying the prop !rty, now my point is this, I have
two points on this, One, the F.F.C. Mr. Ball., have a way of getting all these
things done despite the will et the eomrnuni t_v and the city, they have gone and filled
all that property which we didn't want filled, they got permits, they went to court,
they forced us to give them the permit, they went out and filled that land. Now, they
are using it in violation of the zoning regulations, they got all kinds of trailers
on it, that's against our regulations, but they are doing it and they are doing it
and we are now trying to stop them if we are going to take them through the legal
process to try to stop the F.E.C. from doing what they are not supposed to do. Now,
I think if you will roll out that map again, if you will look at it, this isn't
going to clobber the F.I.C. railroad, but certainly if we go out and take these propertic
that we have been given a right to take, it's going to be a dent in the totality of
that property, because they don't want to give even that little bit up. Now, the
way I figured it i, this. T think that each one of these parcels is going to he
appraised separately and one is not going to have anything to do with the other, as
I see it. I think it is time for us to g.t on with the job, start taking the property
from the F.E.C. railroad and showing that we mean business, get on wish the job, take
the property and just g e t on ;;i th it., now we will have to wait until the supreme court
finalizes and sooner or later they've get to rule. How long can the supreme court
sit on something, can they sit on IL for a year?
Mrs. Gordon: There is a whole new et e tire Maurice and you know that there are
changes that the supreme court i5 in the :niJ1:tiff a e,,reat appealable. 1 believe this
is the wrong time for us to move on these a parcels and I want to stress that if we
take these 4 parcels we are buying .a right A way with parks funds issue money, because
the depths of three those h:ar:el are very shallow and the amount of area that's
needed for the widening; of Biscayne Blvd. will absorb almost all of it. I tell you
what's left will just be a nice little parklet for the F.E.C. on the other side.
Mayor Ferre: Why are you against it, give me•the logic of it?
Mrs. Gordon: Because, we are jeopardizing in my opinion the case we would have for
the whole, by taking these little slivers which do not mean anything to us, becatesn
we cannot do anything with them, because ail we can use them for is to widen the
boulevard and we dr.; not have to buy boulevard right of way with park funds issue money
and spend all this money for that purpose,we need a park in it's entirity. We don't
need these little slivers, only one piece of it if there is any depths at all. The
rest of them have no depths at all.
Mayor Ferre: 1 think that's a good argument.. T don't see however, --- The other argument
.l don't accept. l don't see how this would in any way influence the decision of the
supreme court.
Mrs. Gordon: I believe Maurice, we have waited this long that we have nothing to
gain if we take these litt!e parcels and we should wait. 1 can tell you that it
will cost moray, I du a hit of appraising and 1 can tell you the severance sandwiches
will cost us more to take it in this fashion then it will if we go Into for the whole
on a propot t ionate square foot: basis.
Mr, Andrews: The Commission should be .aware that those parcels that were isolated by
the court were isolated because they were in my layman judgment, at least Mr. Lloyd
can correct me. On a severance basis in that those properties had leases attached to
them and they are not used for that purpose and so the court released those, because
they were used differently than the rest of all the properties,
Mrs. Gordon: In today's time the barges that are on the rest of that property are
there illegally, we are in court right now, we have a case pending , I believe that
we should table this item until some future time and then we can take it back to
consideration, 1 move the table.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, now if you will permit me to make the statement , now
it isn't that I --- don't do what the Miami Ent -aid want but I want to tell you
that I have talked long, many time with Alva, Chapman who is not the Miami
Herald, but the President. I talked to Dan Paul, who is an attorney and Mr. Bill
Colson, who were the people who have shown the most interest to the past ;and they
are adamantthat we get off our duff and start buying even three square feet, because
we have got to get on with this job. T. might point out with regards -- John, when
will the appraisals be ready?
Mr. Lloyd: 1 think they ought to he ready no later than 10 days from now.
Mayor Ferre: If by any chance this Commission were to vote on this and instruct you
not to do anything final in court until all these appraisals are in and we each have
had an opportunity to look at them. If it passee this Commission to instruct you to
proceed - to get started on this, once the appraisals are finished, can you bring them
and show them to each one of us and than if it is the will of this Commission. We
don't want to get involved at that point, we can always withdraw this thing, can't we.
without prejudice or cost to us?
Mr. Lloyd: Well. you could withdraw it,but here again you maybe subject to some
attorney's fees . You see what we would do is we would file a notice of trial
and then we would have to say well we withdraw the notice of trail.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this then, because we are now in April, I asked you,
I've been on this thing since October or November, the first time I had this meeting
with Alvah Chapman and 13i11 Colson, and all these other people - back in November
now how long does it take, does it take 4 months to make an appraisal?
Mr. Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, we were not authorized by this Commission to hire an appraisal
for this purpose until about three weeks ago.
Mrs. Gordon: Nir. Lloyd, isu 't it true that the resolution authorizing an appraisal
did not delineate 4 parcels, it is define:.feed the property, therefore, if you are
asking the appraisal only tor 4 parcels then this is not a true appraisal of the
value, you must get the entire parcel and if you wish 4 parcels of it, you must ask
him for that too.
Mr. Lloyd: Well, we are getting that.
Mrs. Gordon: But, I.'ve moved to table this item until the appraisals are finished
so that we can then sit down and study what we are doing.
Mayor Ferre: I would like to recommend to this Commission that we not table this item
that we move in principle on it, SD that there is a direction.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you exactly what I will vote for and nothing else. I'll
vote for an intent to take those parcels now, but as a conservative or an ultra -con-
servative, I've got to know what the nrice is and that's going to be my determining
factor. If you want a motion of intent that this Commission wishes to acquire those
properties immediately. 1 will vote for it,
Mr. Lloyd: Let me tell you what that will do, the motion of intent won't do anything
for me in court, because I can't go to court with a notice of trial with simply a
motion of intent.
Mayor Ferre: I understand.
Mrs. Gordon: I moved twice a tabling motion, you never asked for a second on either
occasion.
Mayor Ferre: You are absolutely right and I recognize you for that purpose, you have
the floor, there is a motion by Firs. Rose Cordon to table this item, unti 1 the appraisals
are completed, Is there a second to the motion? is there a second to the motion?
Father Gibson: 1 want to ask a question? What are they doing presently with the
property that looks _Like or approximate, what Florida Fast Coast is all about?
Mr. Lloyd: 1 can tell you that, let me refer to the map, this is what Mr. Andrews
was talking about. tills of course, is the F.R.C. railroad tracks, now this area
here and now this area which they are in violation of our zoning ordinance by doing
it, this area here is under lease to the '1'. frtT. Trailer Corp., whichConducts a combined
seta & Rail Trail al -Business and boat:; come in here , ships come here with the trai i tTs
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out - and they are loaded out to the F.C.C. railroad cats and that t
railroad business, this was the reason why the court allowed us to take these
other parcels here, because the court ruled that these parcels were not concerned
With the trailer activities within the railroad, but these parcels were, so these
others are under lease to the Holiday Inn, which of course, nothing has been built
there was an agreement with the F.E.C. at the Holiday Inn to build there
in there. I don't recollect off hand, what these other parcels --- nothing particular
is on the
Mrs. Gordon: If you will all notice, particular Mayor Ferre, if you will notice the
depths of the boulevard at this point, South of the Port Boulevard is quite a distance
East of the F.E.C. property here. Drawing this on a straight line basis you will see
that what you are buying is what the state shc.tld be paying for and not the people
of the City of Miami who voted for a park bnna.'s issue. Here's where the line goes
straight up here- parcel #1, almost ;3 third of parcel #2 and then so on all the way
up, so you see what I mean. We are not doing anything to help the people of the
City of Miami except we are helping F.E.C.
Mr. Andrews: They state accepts the width of Bisravne Boulevard as 50 ft. greater than
its firm width. The width of the boulevard at this location is 208 ft. This portion of
the boulevard will be narrower than the portion in the main harbor downtown Miami, so
there would be a fifty ft. taking of these properties along here including all we do.
We plan to buy Bicentennial Park.
Mayor Ferre: Who pays for that?
Mr. Andrews: Well, the state eventually would have to buy it.
Mr. Plummer: They would have to reimburse us, right?
Mayor Ferre: So, there is no problem.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, it's a problem, because if you already have - and the state is not
about to give it to you.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me follow my reason, so I could be intelligent in my voting.
Mr. Lloyd, again you said that the F.E.C. Property is where now?
Mr. Lloyd: Commissioner all this is V.E.C. Property.
Rev. Gibson: Ok, I understand it, but 1 am talking about the part necessary to operate
their business.
Mr. Lloyd: They contend, Father and with enough out of the lower court that this part
here - and now this part - there is no contention on this because they have just(
illegally) in our opinion moved out to that part, but at the time we were in suit, they
conten dad that this part was necessary to operate their business. Our contention is to
the contrary. They prevailed that this pan. was necessary to operate their railroad
business.
Rev. Gibson: I want to ask another question. Did you just say that they filled some
land, they didn't really have the right ?
Mr. Lloyd: No, no that is not what I said. By court order they were allowed to fill
from here out to here. We opposed it and they ac quired it. The court required us to
give them a permit to fill, they had government furnish --What they are doing now is
an extension of a conditional use which exists in here by improperly moving their
operations(the trai 1. r operation) out on to here.
Rev. Gibson: Well, let me ask, this raises another question. If they are illegally,
how du they get to make it legal later on?
Mr. Lloyd; We have ainjuctiou suit right now again^.t them pending, to prevent them
from using.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask a follow up question. If they are operating illegally, they
must deal with us, whether itkthese 5 bodies here now, or 5 other bodies, it wouldn't
make much difference. Let's assume that they 5 bodies sitting up here will retain our
position and sustain our position. Ok, they will still be illegally operating that,
what's going to happen?
Mr, Lloyd; Well, they will continue to operate here illegally, until the court stops
them, which we are In court now to have the court determine.
Rev. Gibson:
I am not a lawyer, 1 am a layman, ok, they are operating illegally, to bit
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legal I have to say yes. Suppose I continue to say no?
Mt. Lloyd: Then they are still operating illegally.
Rev. Gibson: now--- then what?
Mr. Lloyd: We are in court, we are proceeding with an injuction --
Rev. Gibson: Now, let me raise a question that touched on something earlier here
today that burned the devil out of me and burned me up. If we as a city have the
right to say you are operating illegally, it seems to me we ought to have the right
to do something about your illegal operation.
Mr. Plummer: I got the answer. (Joking Matter)
Rev. Gibson: I just want to make sure that we understand that somewhere down the
line we got to fish or cut bait. I kept saying, and what disturbs is "here we have
these people in violation of Laws that you pa;s. and some people obeying the laws and
others saying the with the law", not either all of us is going to obey them or
all of us are going to say the with them.
Mayor Ferre: All right, let's fish or cut bait. l.t's almost 6:00 P.M. There is
a motion.
Mrs. Gordon: There is another comment that's necessary in order to clarify. The
illegal use of their property is necessary for their use, since they filled what was
water. They must have water furnished to operate their operation. Consequently, we
are at this moment if we take anything less than the whole, if we show any weakness
at this point, we are jeopardizing both our case Dr: their illegal use and also on
our overall condemnation, again I move for a tabling.
weak -
Mayor Ferre: My difference is that I don't think that we are ening the position,
but on the contrary strengthing it. Now, I've asked Paul Andrews for his comment and
I would appreciate you're giving an opinion, Mr. Andrews.
Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, I asked only for a tabling until the appraisals are ready, at
which time we can take up the financial matters which are very important.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, you made a statement and 1 recognized that and I already asked for
a seconing, nobody seconded it. 1 will repeat it one more time. Is there a second
to the tabling ? Is there a second?
Rev. Gibson: Well, Mr. Mayor, I am not about to vote until I get this answer, ok?
Mayor Ferre: All right, go ahead.
Rev. Gibson: What I don't understand is and would you clear this up for me or if you
don't want to get into this 1 see a competent attorney out there, we will defer
it if that's what you want us to do. What I don't understand is if we have the right
to take 1,2,3 or if we could proceed, "what is there to prevent us from taking the
other ben of the thing", and then saying, "look man", 1 have this right if I went
into cour(this is a layman), with three in my hand and I only need two more it seems
to me that I upset the president then and it shouldn't too difficult for me to get
the other two.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't agree, Father. At this point, we are winning our case and we
are losing our case by taking a portion of it and not taking the whole.
Mayor Ferre: I don't agree with that. Now, Mr. Andrews, we have gotten into a discussion
would you into the record tell us your opinion on this whole item?
Mr. Andrews: it's difficult to arrive at a decision at this, at hest, because you have
to weigh what can really occur, the legal consequences of the decisions that you make,
In my opinion, I think that if it is lc•g;i11y possible that we go about the process of
acquiring those "3" parcels and amending if possible, are taking to include the property
that was also filled, so that we have a more majority of all the properties. Now, at
the same time that we immediately proceed to began negotiating with the county and .
the state, for them to join us, so that their participants on a pro rata basis to acquire
the right of way that runs through the property, that also touches some additional property
that we are not in the process of taking, particularly, in this area and this area that.
portion of it, so that what we would be taking about at this point and time is -
if you will follow my pencil starting here u:t out at the water's edge or now that which
has been filled along the causeway, starting at this point, it would be this property
all through here , all of that, all across the front,
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the only portion that would be remaining, that would be left for taking which is
land would be this portion here, that portion there and this portion here; also
we have to do something about this water or leave it in F.E.C. Property's hand,
but that might be extremely difficult to do. The courts, I think would look with
this favor upon that , if we are going to take that and leave that water portion,
that would be extremely difficult.
Mrs, Gordon; Mr. Andrews, sir there may be a legal question about who owns that
water'?
Mr. Andrews: This portion - there maybe but • rom my limited knowledge. The way
the agreements were constructed that give the,City of Miami permission to use it
OWL' the years ---
Mayor Ferre: All right, Ladies and Gentlemen, it's almost 6:U0 P.M.
Mrs. Gordon: I am again, going to move that the appraisals ---
Mayor Ferre: I am going to ask for the last time is there a second to that motion?
All right, hearing none then I will recognize Commissioner Plummer for a motion.
Mr. Plummer: What I said before, I make a motion of intent to this Commission immediately
to acquire those parcels subject to -- final approval by this Commission as to the cost
involved.
Mrs. Gordon: You mean those small slivers J.L., you are talking about?
Mr. Plummer: Well, Rose 26, 157 ft. is not a small sliver in my estimation.
Mayor Ferre: It's four and one half acres.
Mrs. Gordon: You have got to talk about what's left after the are taking
off street widening J.L. --
Mr. Plummer: They are going to take the street widening anyhow.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't see what's your big rush. If anybody will tell me what their
big rush is, maybe I can go along on it, but I just don't understand i:.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, wait a minut, now as the chairman of this board, there is a motion,
now, is there a second to this motion? Going once,
Mr. Plummer: The motion is that the intent of this Commission is to immediately acquire
those parcels as outlined by the Manager, subject to the cost analysis final by this
Commission.
Mr. Reboso: And it has recommendation of the City Manager and the City Attorney, right?
Mrs. Gordon: No, that's not what the Manager recommended Mr. Reboso, he recommended
something entirely, he recommended in a large area.
Mayor Ferre: We all agreed on that. It's a much better idea.
Mr. Reboso: I second the motion.
Rev. Gibson: Now, the motion is, Plummer, that -
Mrs. Gordon: All of the that was filled in and also those parcels which the
court said we could take, is that what you are recommending Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews: The parcels that the court have identified that we can take, plus the
part that has been filled, plus in your motion direct that we get together with the
county and the state so that join us to take these parcels
Mayor Ferre: All right, I would like for you to include in the motion so that nobody
will misunderstand that if and when the supreme court rules on this thing, if they
rule in our favor, it is our intention to buy everything else that's left so that
there is no question about it, ok?
Mr, Andrews: May I confer with the City Attorney for a minute? Maybe, there is
way of approaching chat and I don't know ---
Mayor Ferre; All right,
another
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Mrs, Gordon: Mr. Mayor, while they are conferring, may 1 make some comments?
Mayor Ferret Go ahead:
Mrs, Gordon: With regard to the channel, there is a great question of whether or
not the city already has the claim. The same kind of claim they may have on the
ball point. I think we better let Mr. Lloyd handle that and come back to us with
a recommendation.
Mr, Lloyd: I recommend that you not add that element to the motion because what
We will be evaluating is how the supreme court arrives at it's decision, but there
is another alternative available to the city using the new legislation to approach
the rest of the property.
Mrs. Gordon: When is our next meeting Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: April. 22nd.
Mrs. Gordon: Why don't we defer this to April 22nd, let the Manager come up with
something. 1 the motion. Defer this until April 22nd.
Mayor Ferre: We have a motion and a second. Now there is a substitute motion that
this thing be delayed. Hearing none then on the main motion.
Mrs. Gordon: Repeat the main motion please.
Mayor Ferre: The main motion is as follows as I recall it that this City of Miami
Commission go on record in the intent of taking parcels as outlined in this map,
1,2,3,4, 5 parcels.
Mrs. Gordon: Point them out Mr. Andrews, there will be no misunderstanding.
Mr. Andrews: The yellow one, the black one, the one in red, this one in black,
that one in red, this one in yellow.
Mayor Ferre: Which the courts have already approved are taking in addition, all the
area that has been filled.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you including that now?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Andrews: Plus you would include in your motion giving direction to the City Manager,
the City Attorney to deal with the state and the county in that they would proceed o
acquire the right of way purposes for Biscayne Boulevard, these parcels in here, those
two parcels.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion and a second. Further discussion call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-339
A MOTION OF INTENT TO ACQUIRE FROM THE F.E.C.
RAILWAY COMPANY FIVE PARCELS OF PROPERTY AUTHORIZED
TO BE TAKEN BY COURT ORDER, AS WELL AS THE AREA
WHICH HAS BEEN RECENTLY FILLED BY THE F.E.C.
RAILWAY CO.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner livbosi , the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner. (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Piummer
Mayor Maurice A..Ferre
NOBS; None,
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-340
A MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE THE STATE
AND COUNTY PROCEED WITH THE ACQUISITION FROM
THE F.E.C. RAILWAY CO. OF RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
WIDENING BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon , who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-341
1
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY
TO CONSULT WITH THE SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATING THE
TITLE TO THE BALL POINT PROPERTY IN AN ATTEMPT TO
DETERMINE THE CITY'S WATER RIGHTS TO THE CHANNEL IN
THE AREA OF BAYFRONT PARK.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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50, ENTER INTO AGREEMENT - n' LE.ARY-S(IAFER ANb ASSOCIATES
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS FOR DESIGN SERVICES
MINI -PARK: 46 WEST FLAGLCR STRLLI
Mayor Ferre: Now, Ladies. and Gentleman, so nobocy misunderstands we all want the
same thing the differences that we have had this t.fternoon are just in the way we
go about it, that's all. We all want to end up in the same place. All right, now
we are on item it 39.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Commission, Mrs. Gordon had some questions
with reference to why we were using a consultant in order to further the development
of a plan to provide the Mini Park on 46 W. Flagler STreet.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes I did, because I feel that we have a capable Planning Department
and if they can't plan for a Mini Park, 1 don't know why they catit/ and $11,000,00
of our money could be well spent in another direction or for some of the improvements.
Mr. Andrews: Mrs. Gordon, I must explain that the Planning Department prepared a
preliminary plan that got this whole process started. The preliminary plan has
changed somewhat. The purpose for hiring an outside architects(landscape architect)
is for him to take that plan now1develop a firm plan that this Commission can except
as development of that park, then take it the next step further and driw the plans
and specifications for bidding processs, put. that out for bid and receive bids for
the works.
Mrs. Gordon: I recognize it but can you tell me that we don't have that kind of
quality in our department?
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, let me answer that. We have the quality, for example,
Rose to design a building such as the Police station, or how about Bicentennial Park
that we have gone out.
Mrs. Gordon: That's also a much .larger process.
Mayor Ferre: But I think we've got. to ,o to professional that can really come up with
a quality product. I agree with Mrs. Gordon in this sense. I think $11,000.00 out of
$110.00 is kind of high, but I certainly am not going to go against the argument that
we do need professionalism.
Mr. Lucius Williams: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners $11,000.00 is the A.F.L.A. schedule
which is really not ---
Mayor Ferre: In other words, thatfthe standard in the profession.
Mr. Lucius Williams: Absolutely, as a matte^ of fact it might he a little bit under,
because we have to do a few extra things. In terms of the staff Mrs. Gordon, I share
your concern and if this were a neighborhood Mini Park indeed, the Parks Department
and Planning Department does design those, but let us keep in mind and let me take
this opportunity to pass these around and I invite you to especially look at them
in this order. because the similarity of what we are doing is absolutely unique.
This is Payley Park in Manhattan, the first Mini Park developed in Manhattan and
probably the first in the city. You see it's a unique extremely urban setting which
requires particularly concerns with urban spaces. Now, to give you the impact of
what I am saying. Let me ca11 to your attention that during the past three or four
years when we have had some discussions of Bayfront Park and the possible other
utilization of that park. I have doiie :surveys to find out how many people use that
park and the average run from ? to 5 persons per acre during the day time hours, if
you w111 look in these pictures I can count h5 people sitting in that portion which
is shown, that park Is 4200 sq. ft. which is 1/10 of an acre or multiplied 650 persons
hut with this kind of uniqueness, this kind of intensity, it requires expertise that
our department does not have..
Mayor Ferry: 1 completely agree. 1s there a motion for or against it? Moved by
Plummer. is there a second? is there a second on item 39, the Manager recommends?
Seconded by Rebuso. Further discussion call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-342
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK T() ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH O'LEARY-SHAFER AND ASSOCIATES,
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, 'OR PRuFI•:tiSIONAL SERVICES
FOR THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE 46 WEST
FLAGLER MINI -PARK, FOR A FIXED FEF OF $11,000.00
FROM THE FUNDS ALLOCATED TO Ial'.`'!'.LOP DOWNTOWN
URBAN PARKS INCLUDED IN THE BOND ISSUE FOR PARKS
AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES APPROVED BY VOTERS
IN AN ELECTION ON MARCH 14, 1972.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner. Rose Cordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
51, DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS FOR ]RANGE BOWL SCOREBOARD
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 40. The Manager recommends , resolution authorizing
City Manager ----
Mr. Reboso: Let me ask one thing, Mr. Mayor are the two firms here?
I would like to defer this item to the next ---
Mayor Ferre: I am going to add to that.. I think it's important that we get to know
and see the exact bids of each one of these people. 1 know you sent them over to my
office. I haven't had time to read them Paul and I do think it's important that we
really analyze the impact . because that memorandum that you sent us, I read that
thing three times and frankly I can't tell :a difference between one and the other
and the other thing .about this M
Mr. Andrews: The other thing about this Mr. Mayor, I will furnish you with a chart
and we prepare, we have a great big exhibit here to discuss it with you in detail
and then furnish you a copy of that chart. This is a very complex thing. The city
in attempting to treat these people fairly and if Judge Barrett is the only represent-
ative here and others, they will all stand and speak because we spent a great deal of
time together and not only analyzing their written proposals, but having several
meetings with these people and we have not tried to specify the kind of sign that we
would have in the Orange Bowl to the extent that it was iron clad that it would rule
out any one of the potential suppliers of the sign and by doing that we created an
open end situation with certain controls so that they could come to the city and make
their proposals available for us to analysis and that's caused some complications but
we think we have done our homework. Now, I will supply you with additional. informat-
ion by memorandum in addition to the proposals then if you wish to postpone this for
two weeks,
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion to postpone item 40 until the 22nd of April. Is there
a second? There is a second. Further discussion call the roll,
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There upon being no further discussion, the following motion was
introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who moved its adoption:
A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM 'i40 OF THE AGENDA UNTIL
THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 21, 1975.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner. Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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52, PROPOSED ORDINANCE:
SHIPPING VESSELS AND DOCKS ETC,
Mayor Ferre: Now, we are going to take a break in a moment, because we have been
at it all afternoon. A break for 5 minutes. Does anybody have to go
or be heard or something that we have to move back on
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, may I suggest that unless you want to take that break prior
to item 11 42, but there has been some request that this matter be postponedfor an
additional(2)weeks , I don't know whether that's a proper thing to do at this time
or not, that's up to the Commission to decide. We are prepared to discuss it or
accept that the Marine Counsel has pointed out certain matters in relation to the
ordinance that which are minor in detail hut which we could adjust prior to having
the hearing, but that's ---
Mayor Ferre: But the question is are we going to hear it today, or are we going
to postpone it? You would like to have it postponed is that what you ---
Mr. Lucius Williams: Yes, two weeks so we can discuss it and make a better ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what's the will of this Commission?
Mr. Reboso: I move it.
Mr. Andrews: You better find out who else in the audience here wants to talk on this
item.
Mayor Ferre: Does anybody have any objections to this matter being postponed for
two week?
Mr. Andrews: To the 22nd Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second. Further discussion call the roll.
There upon being no further discussion, the following motion was
introduced by Commissioner Rebuso, who moved its adoption:
A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM 042 OF THE AGENDA UNTIL
THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 22, 1975'.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES; Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L, Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None.
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53. BUS BENCH ADVERTISING CONTRACT °fSCUSOFoITEND
WITHDRAW
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and Gentlemen, it's almost 6:15 F.M.; we still got 2 mote
hours of work and we have been at it since early this morning. I would appreciate
your cooperation. AIL right, now we are going to take up the next item on the
agenda. Item #41, is ordinance amending ordinance no. 8.i45 which appropriated
Federal Revenue Sharing Funds, transferring $25,000 from the appropriation to the
three Model Day Care Centers moved by Mrs. Rose Gordon, is there a second?
Seconded by Rev. Gibson.
Mrs. Gordon: Wait, wait a minute, Maurice, that one we did this morning, and we
deferred that.
Mayor Ferre: You deferred item 41.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, we all they way up to item 11 48 now. We did 43, was deferred,
44, 45, 46, 47 have been completed and we are now on 48.
Mayor Ferre: We are now at the bus benches. That's the one I want to talk about.
Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, I told them about the letter you sent, which indicated that
you should be present when we take it up.
Mayor Ferre: On item 48 Mr. Manager do you want to tell us why you want those bus
benches advertising?
Mr. Andrews: I am recommending this because we put out a contract pursuant to the
City Commission wishes that we continue providing bus bench service through a concession-
ary who would re -franchise in the city right-of-way to provide these services. We took
our contract and in order to give smaller contractors and individuals who might become
interested in providing bus benches We divided the city into four geography areas
hoping that other agencies might become involved in providing 'ius bench service to the
city. We received only one bid for the entire city. There we a no other bidders.
This bid represents an increase of about $3,000.00 a year over our previous arrangement.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now I want to express my opinion on the record. I think that
the editorial that was published in the Miami Herald, and I won'taround by saving certain
newspapers. I am not going to be that polite, the Miami Herald is a despic3h]e,low,
sarcastic,cynical , typical, editorial of the Miami Herald. I am going to put it in
those words. You know, the approach of this editorial is to me vouched in such a way
that it is maliciously intended to make the City of Miami look bad. Any way we go.
In other words, if we vote with the Manager then they can say, what we said was true.
If we vote the other way, then they laugh. Well, we forced the City of Miami to do the
right thing. Now, I always thought that editorials were commentaries by the so-called
conscience of the community commenting en what has happened in the community. I think
some of the editorials in the Miami Herald have the intentions not of commenting or not
of criticizing but of directing and molding and giving directions to what happens in
government. Now, I don't think that we run for editotiisof the Miami Herald and I think
the Miami Herald would be best advised to criticize , which they always do any way, no
matter what we do, but to stop trying to before things happen castigate and predecide
which direction they are going to go. I might for the record and I will submit it
before the record that a week ago I wrote a letter which I sent a copy to all of the
Miami Commissioners saying, that I was going to vote against the advertising on bus
benches, so I don't know who they were talking about, but they were pre -judging me they
made a mistake and the rcst of the four of you can speak for yourselves.
Mrs. Gordon: That's the reason Maurice that I brought up this morning the fact that
I was sure you would want to be present when this --
Mr, Plummer: 1 didn't get such a Letter. Did you write us a letter stating that you
were going to vote against advertising on any bus benches?
Mrs. Gordon: 1 did.
Mayor Ferre: 1 wrote a letter to a lady who wrote me and in answer to her letter, I
told her that it was my considered opinion that if we could avoid it that we should
not put advertising on bus benches, because we have had enough time fighting Neon
signs and all kinds of bill boards problems.
Mr, Plummer: oh: What is your solution to avoid it?
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Mayor Ferre: The City of Miami is going to have to come up with the money.
Mt. Plummer: You are talking about the City of Miami is going to come up with
$100,000.00.
Mayor Ferre: No, $20,000.00.
Mr. Plummer: Did I reed somewhere $100,000.00.
Mayor Ferre: Oh yes, $100,000.00.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, let's go back over this, you will recall that I supplied
the City Commission with a report which provided that we phase out the bus bench
advertising and the city assume the responsibility and the burden providing bus
benches in the public right-of-way. Ti was pointebut to the City Commision at that
time by my figures, if I remember my figures, that there would be an expense of
50 to 60 thousand dollars to replace the bus benches, plus the loss of $15, 000.00
at that time and the revenues that the city receives through this so that we were
talking about $75,000.00 in spread of cost between the city dtring this and main-
taining It . After considerable discussion, the Commission arrived at a conclusion
that we should continue with the proposal that bus benches we furnished by private
enterprise through a concession or a franchise, following that we proceeded then
based on the Commission's policy in good faith to go ahead and carry that out to
the best of our ability and we thought we were very clever dividing the city
into four parts so that we could even get more people involved in providing this
service, but we only received one hid and based on that one bid, I am recommending
to the Commission based on your prior policy that we award it to that contract.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question, and 1 don't want to be prefaced by saying this,
I don't want this to be misconceived that I am trying to throw a hot potato, but you
know really, they should be provided by the bus company. It's a convenience to the
bus riders and it just stands to me for good reasoning that M.T.A. is the one
who should provide the convenience for their customers.
Mr. Andrews: They turned us down.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you see the turned us down because it's $75,000.00. Now, why are
we placed in a position of puttine.•t convenience for their customers, they are tax payers
no questions, but it just seems logically, (you know) if I run a grocery store, I am not
going to ask somebody down the street to provide delivery service.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let them stand, unless the Miami Herald wants to pay for the
benches.
Mr. Andrews: If I may use the expression "the hooker", in this is t:hat if you do that
you will lose control of the bus benches by passing on to Metro and I recognize that
we have a better relationship now we have ever had with Metro, but they are in desperate
need of funds because that's tax support. They will turn around and place advertising
on it and they will give the $18,000.00.
Mayor Ferre: The problem, of course is that (I will not name the newspaper) but there
are certain people who are very concerned about advertising dollars, perhaps that might
be the of it, but anyway let them worry about it. As far as I am concerned I
think the time has arrived where we try to beautify our streets and I think one way to
do that is to get all of this advertising out as much as possible.
Mr. Andrews: Now, we did take one step further in setting this contract up and that is
there will be no advertising on bus benches where they are in a R-1, R-2 zone. They
will have to ft_rnish the bus beneli,but they can't put any advertising on it.
Mrs. Gordon; When does this contract_ expire that they presently have?
Mr. Andrews: I think it's on a month to month basics, Yes, it expired about 6 months
ago and it's on a month to month basis extending the existing contract.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I can't but agree, I haven't ever .liked the bus benches, it isn't
today's dislike. I never liked them. I went along on them because the same arguments
that we needed the money, but I think that with the next budget coming up within a
matter of months and with us finding other money for other things like we are finding
money for a Mini -Park consultant so -to -speak, I think we can find the money to put
some benches out if we feel we need theta and maybe we can get Metro to put them out,
Metro (it's been said before today) hasn't done very much for the City of Miami and
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if they put some benches out. They are now operating the service themselves,
they didn't do it before. You had to deal wl.th an entity c.alled the
Metro Transit Authority, which was an independent body. Now you ate telling with
the Metro Commission and the Metro Manager. Is that right?
Mr. Andrews: May I suggest this - I sense at least a slight change in attitude on
the Commissioners part, that you postponed this. We are on a montt to month basis
with these contractors anyway and if you will give me the latitude to talk to Ray
Goode and Dr. Dyer and we examine our own city properties where we might place
benches without advertising in front of city properties, parks where ever the buses
stop and if Metro would do the same thing, maybe we could the gap at the point
where we could achieve the combined program in which we might get bus benches out
without any advertising.
Mrs. Gordon: Fine. How do you want the motion worded?
Mr. Andrews: I think if you just don't ask on this, I will go ahead and pursue it
that way with your permission.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Do we need a deferral or just not act on Lt.
Mr. Andrews: Just not act on it. Defer it at this time.
Mayor Ferre: Motion to defer it. The thing to do is just not to act on it. We
will take up item ;149.
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54, STOP SIGNS ON ALATKA, AT NOC-A-TEE AND r1ICANOPY
IN COCONUT GROVL
Mr, Andrews: We received a report from Metropolitan Dade county traffie
and they have a representative .sere who will explain what is being proposed
but I think Mr. Grimm can run through it quickly and the gentleman from
Metro traffic can answer any additional questions and you can open it up
to the,
Mr. Grimm: This might be a little difficult to see, I'll turn this around
so the audience can see it, basically, what Metro is pr3posing is from Samantha
Drive on Bayshore to Alatka, that one of the southerly bound lanes be converted
to a continuous left turn lane.
Mayor Ferro: Turn it so the neighbors can see it, ---
Mr. Grimm :--that this center lane on Bayshore Drive be restricted from
the entrance here on Bayshore to Bay Heights, all the way down here to the entrance
to the hospital, be restricted t.o a left turn lane. Further that Alatka,--I mean
Tigertail be closed at Alatka, that from Tigertail to Bayshore, Alatka become one-
way and that some additional pavement be constructed on 17th Avenue at U.S. 1
to provide for more adequate right -turn lanes.
Now I believe there was an additional suggestion by Commissicner Plummer
and Commissioner Reboso that right tutns be restricted at this intersection so
as to avoid some of the problems which now happen with people coming down here
and using these residential streets as a by-pass to U.S. 1. That I believe is the
plan.
Mr. Plummer: I'll make my comments first. First of all, I have no disagreement
---I think the left -turn stacking lane on Bayshore Drive is impractical. I don't
think it will work, that is my personal opinion.
I question the need for one -waving Alatka, I think the same purpose would
be achieved by merely making no right -turns off of Bayshore on to the two streets.
Tha is my personal opinion. We all acknowledge one fact. That fact is we want to
force the traffic to use 17th Avenue which is the main arterial and I think that
is the only way that you are going to accomplish it, because if you make Alatka
one-way without doing anything to Hailisse e, all they are going to do is come
down one more block and make their right turn. So whatever it take to accomplish
it I am for, I think the closing of Tigertail entrance, --I am for it, it is great.
What does the man from Metro have to say in reference to making no right turns
on to Halissee? What is your recommendation?
Unidentified person: It is a possibility. The problem with just putting
up a sign 'No Right Turn' is that it would require constant enforcement if it
were made one-way.
Mr. Plummer:You are thinking of making Halissee one-way south bound the
same as Alatka?
Unidentified person: That could be done as well, yes, if the commission
wanted that.
Mr. Plummer: Well that is a thought.
Unidentified person: These streets are primarily residential streets. We
are mainly concerned about traffic flow along Bayshore and 17th etc. What happens
to the residential streets l guess is primarily, ---
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask one other question. Rose, I am addressing this to
you primarily. Rose, they made a suggestion once before and I know you have
great opposition to the widening any further of S. Bayshore Drive, but I
question whether or not that you would have any great problems in your mind
if they widen just the north side of the street from the narrowing which
was Alatka or near Alatka, to 17th Avenue to give a right turning lane. Would
you have any great opposition to that? I live closer to it, and can see where
this would be a great help and they are only, I think if I remember correctly
before you were only talking about an additional two or three feet of right-of-
way, I am not talking about the other lane Rose, I am just talking about the one.
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Mrs: Gordon: The feeling that I have is that, if you gi•'e a finger,
you might lose you hand, and the feeling of the people that are concerned
with widening Bayshore Drive, and I am only one,
Mt. Plummet: I don't mind giving the finger but I am afraid of getting
My throat cut, and that is what we are fighting.
Mts. Gordon: My suggestion is if you want to do this, that you do it by
way of a public hearing and then get a consensus of the public feeling, ---
Mr. Plummer: -fine with me. ----
Mrs. Gordon: --and if the public won't raise strong objections,
Mr. Andrews: if I may interrupt and assist the commission, that meeting
could start on the basis that you made a commitment to them that something would
be done without first consulting them and by explaining the problem to them, and
asking them to participate. You might very well come up with a good solution.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask if this is possible. Is it possible that we could
proceed with what you have delineated here today and then go for the public hearing
for that additional three feet from Alatka to 17th Avenue for a right turning
lane. Is that possible Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Grimm: Both agencies would be involved. PUblic Works can handle whatever
you want done on the paving, can also handle closing Tigertail and Alatka. The
answer to your question is yes. I would like to suggest however that we do the.
closing in manner that would allow it to be subject to trial by the people that
live in Bay Height:, and that we not do anything very permanent so in case they
change their minds .
Mrs. Gordon: I want to understand completely myself because I maybe was
not paying total. attention. You are talking about closing Alatka at the highway
----is that it?
Mr. Grimm: No, Ma'am, closing of Tigertail at Alatka.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes,
Mr. Grimm: What I am suggesting is we do this with some asphaltic curbing
or some other minor installation rather than going and closing it for a full
block and landscaping it until it has a chance to percolate a little bit in the
neighborhood.
Mr. Plummer: Like you did at 19th Avenue?
Mr. Grimm: Right,------
Hrs. Adele Kanter: I would like to bring up a couple of traffic problems
that you ar:} going to create which don't seem to have come into consideration.
If we are going to have one entrance in and out of Bay Heights, we are going to
need a traffic light at that entrance to accomodate the traffic, the additional
traffic that is going to be using it. Also you are going to be putting additional
traffic on S.W. 17th Avenue which already has a big stacking problem at that
intersection. That intersection should be widened to allow for left-hand turns
and perhaps we should consider an alternate route for the people in Bay Heights
to get to Dixie Highway, perhaps by going east on Bay Shore Drive to Federal
Highway, and making a left -turn lane on Federal Highway to proceed southward
on Dixie Highway so that we are not dumping all this additional traffic onto
S.W. 17th Avenue which is a residential street, to say we would go to the corner
of Federal Highway and S. Miami Avenue with a left turn there and we would be
on S. Dixie Highway going south without putting additional strain on 17th Avenue.
These things have not been considered in your report. 1 think they should be,
Mrs. Gordon: I think that is a good idea. 1 am concerned too about the
-A--any widening or any re-routing that is.going to bring more traffic on
17th. It is a very bad stack up area. I travel that way. You can't make a right
turn either because it prohibits that.
Mr, Plummer: One of the proposals is a right hand turn stacking lane
on 17th Avenue headed north.
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Mira. Gordon: At U S 1?
Mr, Plummer: At U.S.1, that is one of the ptopsals.
Mrs► GotdoN: You would have to take some right-of-way from those
home owners there.
Mr. Plummer: I am ready :o move it with the exception of the widening
of Bayshore Drive which we will et for a public hearing. I'll move everything
else. If you want it delineated.
Mrs. Gordon: Delineate it very carefully J.L.
Mr. Plummer: No. 1 the closing of the entrance to Bay Heights at Tigettail,
----they are all in favor of it, No. 2, I want to ask a question, Vince,
why couldn't we do that from Micanopy south.
Mr.Grimm: You could,
Mr. Plummer: ----that we make it one-way from Micanopy, on Alatka from
Micanopy to Bayshore, we make it one-way from Micanopy to Bayshore on Halissee,
both of those one-way headed south, that we agree with the widening of a right -turn
lane for 125 ft. headed north on 17th Avenue at Dixie Hihway, that would be the
intent of the motion, --I am sorry, the left turn lane stacking on S. Bayshore Drive
headed south.
Mrs. Kanter: What about the traffic lights, ---and the left turn lane
at Federal Highway?
Mr. Plummer: Let's get this which is their recommendation. Let's get that
digested then we will make the other motions.
Mrs. Gordon: The Bayshore one we were going to eliminate for a public hearing.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, yes, very definitely. That is not included in the first
motion. I move that as the first motion.
Mr. Reboso: I second that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-343
A MOTION DECLARING THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION
TO CLOSE THE ENTRANCE TO BAY HEIGHTS AT TIGERTAIL
AVENUE; DECLARING THE INTENTION TO DESIGNATE ALATKA
STREET FROM MICANOPY AVENUE TO SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE
AND HALLISSEE STREET FROM MICANOPY AVENUE TO SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE AS ONE-WAY STREETS SOUTHBOUND; AGREEING
TO PERMIT WIDENING OF 17TH AVENUE FOR A DISTANCE OF
125 FEET TO CREATE A RIGHT TURN LANE AT SOUTH DIXIE
AND AGREEING TO PERMIT A LEFT -TURN STACKING LANE ON SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE SOUTHBOUND
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J, L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Verve
NOES; None.
Mr, Plummer; My second motion is we schedule for the 8th of May a
public hearing, Mr, Andrews, for the additional 3 foot widening from approximately
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Alatka to 17th Avenue for the sole• purpose of a tight hand turning lane onto
17th Avenue. That is the second motion.
The following Motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
Moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-344
A MOTION FIXING MAY 8Th, 1975 AS THE DATE FOR A PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE WIDENING OF THE EAST SIDI' OF SW 17TH AVENUE
FROM APPROXIMATELY ALATKA STREET TO 17TF AVENUE FOR THE
PURPOSE OF A RIGHT TURN LANE ONTO 17TH AVENUE
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mr. Plummer prior to casting his vote: I am sorry, I am told I did not
include the name of South Bayshore Drive on that, so I include it and I vote
'yes'.
The third motion is that for the consideration of the people in Bay Heights
who have now been limited by their own initiative to one opening that we peition
Metropolitan Dade Traffic and Transportation to place a traffic signal device
at that opening, A,----B,---
Mr. Reboso:----Samana and Bayshore,----
Mr. Plummer:---B, that a means of left -turn off of Bayshore Drive headed
north to give access to travel south on Dixie, do you follow that? If you come
out of Bay Heights you go north on Bayshore Drive, then a left tu:-n so you can
come back and go south on Dixie, and I offer that in the form of a motion.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-345
A MOTION PETITIONING THE METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY
TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO PLACE A
TRAFFIC SIGNAL DEVICE AT THE OPENING OF SAMANA DRIVE
AND SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE, AND THAT A MEANS OF LEFT TURN OFF
SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE NORTHBOUND TO GIVE ACCESS FOR
TRAFFIC TO TRAVEL SOUTH ON SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mr. Plummer: A point of clarification, now that I think Adele and to the
rest of the people of Bay Heights, we have settled your problem, I think without
question, Now, I can see at this time no opposition from your group, Mr, Mayor,
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what I am saying, that this commission in the adoption of the Coconut Grove
Master Plan which advocated without J. L.'s knowledge what the closing of
Alatka and Dixie and Halissee and Dixie, and that was approved, and I want for
the record now, that there would be no opposition from the Bay Heights people
in the closing since it now noes no affect you. Is that agree? Okay, fine.
URGE METRO. TRAFFIC & TRANSPORTATION DEPT, NOT To SEND HEAVY
55i ithEFAAHREg
RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO ACCOMODATE
Mt. Plummer: There is one other thing, in fairness to trying to be a cot-
inissioner for all of this, I wan on a radio program the other night and
some people called in and I think in the interest of fairness, --to the man from
Metro traffic, I would like to address this to you. I receivad a call on this
radio program where I appeared, that stated that the Blue Dash is creating
problems, not only in the city of Miami but elsewhere, and more importantly
they brought out Bird Road and Dixie Highway, where you have, not you maybe,
but it is with you, and i1TA, have seen fit to divert the westbound traffic
on Bird Road to the left, to the right, the right,whatever those streets are,
through solely residential areas, --
Rev. Gibson: ---Hibiscus, Day and to Douglas,
Mr. Plummer: ----whatever those streets are, I would like to see this
commission humbly request of you, that you make some other arrangements other
than diverting heavy traffic through residential sections. If you want that in
the form of a motion or whatever it 1s, I think we have to do it in fairness
to those people that live there around 37th Avenue and Bird Road. What would
be the best for us to do sir?
Unidentified person: There are a number of cases where traffic had to
be diverted through residential areas because of the prohibition of left -turns
and prohibition of certain movements to make the Blue Dash work. The whole scheme
is going to be reviewed. It has to be reapproved. I believe July 2lst is the end
of the first year and it has not been decided whether the whole scheme will be
continued past July 2lst.
Mr. Plummer: When will the review take place?
Unidentified person: I don't know.
Mr. Plummer:I would like to offer a motion Mr. Mayor on behalf of the
people of this city who live in that particular area that we strongly urge
Metropolitan Dade county to make some other arrangements than to send heavy
traffic through residential areas just to accomodate the Blue Dash,and I will
offer that in the form of a motion.
(applause)
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Reboso who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-346
A MOTION OF INTENT TO URGE METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY'S
TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO MAKE OTHER
ARRANGEMENTS THAN TO SEND HEAVY TRAFFIC THROUGH RESIDENTIAL
AREAS MERELY TO ACCOMODATE THE BLUE DASH EXPRESS BUS
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None.
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Mayor Ferre: Now, I see some of you thatare here, obviously on the Police Academy
Are there any other public items on the agenda that want to be heard?
Mr. Vincent Grimm: Mr. Mayor, may 1 ask a question first, iid I understand the
Commission's directions to also close Alatka and Hallisse_e at U.S. 1 at this
time?
Mr. Plummer: May I offer you a suggestion, take it easy, do this first.
will it take you It, do this?
Mr. Vincent Grimm: Well, we should pul:lisli it in the newspaper, so that
has public notice, about a week or so.
Mr. Plummer: tlk. I would suggest you got. that done and get that in and let me
circulate the word among the rest o!: th€ neighbors, then we will proceed with the
second part of Alatka and Hailissee later.
Mayor Ferre: All right. now bikeways. We urgently request the City Commission to
direct the Manager to 1 ve proper department to immediately prepare a compretensive
bikeways plan we have that.
Mr. Andrews: They covered all that. You missed the whole thing, the whole thing
was about a master plan with the county, a master plan with the city, intergrating
both of them --
Mayor Ferre: He was with her,
Mr. Andrews: 11 don't or_-Jer,tand the problem?
How long
everybody
Mayor Ferre: c,;e says; tit we need •t master plan for a comprehensive bikeway plan
and now what 1 am .e3kittt; von ' that we have already done that) then give him a copy,
get one from the
Mr. Plummer: 1 think Mr. :1::ver, more importantly what you should tell him is if this
is coming up betorc Metro nn Thursday and that we plan on appearing there.
Mr. Seth Skiarey: I was here right. I had to appear here to present that view.
What I am saying is that the city needs a comprehensive plan to work out so that you
don't have problem:, like you ended up on Bayshore and gunned through the whole city
and there should be planning, standards, and all these things.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Andrews:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Andrews:
Mr. Andres what we have is not: sufficient, is that ---
I think it is Mr. Mayor.
Have you seen what we have?
And if there are any elements that we don't have, we plan to make sure
that we have a comprehensive plan.
Mayor Ferre: You see he is talking without knowing what we have, do you know what we
have?
Mr. Seth Sklarey: May 1 s:ee what you have, 1 don't have one?
Mayor Ferre: You see what we have. II you wont to he heard again you write the
Manager and we will put you on the agenda for the next time ok?
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56. PERSONAL AP EPRANCE - 'iICKI DL ALBORNOZ
CULUMBIAN CULTURAL EXCHANGE PROGRAM
Mrs. Vicki De Albornoz: Mr. Mayor Ferre, distinguished Commissioners: J.am. iltam.
Columbia, but living in Miami for 18 years. Departments of the Americas the
largest people to people program in this hemisphere legion 43 states of the
union working together with 18 1. in-Aneric.ans Countries in programs of health,
agriculture, student exchange, ,ports, and cul t-uralexckanglaave arranged for the
finest ballet and folk groups from Columbia to appear in Miami at the end of
September. The group i;: composed of 60 dancers doing folk dances from all different
regions of Columbia. From Miami they are going on a nation-wide tour which includes
appearances at Madison Square Gardens in New York City and Kennedy Center in Washington,
Departments program brings people together and the projects so that they can help
solve the problems of the hemisphere in health, agriculture, and education. So the
reason we are bringing the ballet is to generate more interest among the citizens
of Miami toward Columbia, by y; 1.', i cat; them :an ::appreciation of the rich cultural
heritage of Columbia. HI the same manner that Coral Park Senior High School Band
is at present performing in Columbia ou the Depart monts; sharing American Folklore
Program. Proceeds of their performance In f3o ata will be going toward the buildine
of a hospital at Ciudad Kennedy. A conglomerate of half a million people with
no hospital. Mr. David , our Associate Director of Departments of the
Americas in Washington personally arranged for the ballet to come to Miami so that
its appearance could raise money for the existing projects of the. Florida Columbia
Partners. Mrs. Maria Franci_sr3'campaign Cultural attache in Michigan came to
to meet with Mayor Ferro with a proposal to him to please help her project get the
facilities to present the ballet and to have the City of Miami as sponsor to it
with a cost of about `'3,000.00. Mayor Ferre like always in the most enthusiastic
manner together with his As5,1st:rant Mr. Frank Cobo, who also h?s been ihstrumental in
**entqt}n{tlais area has prop:eeded to go forward in helping us t et out this project
that is the ;n n reason for my brain here today and now I will let Mayor. Ferre talk
a little bit about. it.
Mayor Ferre: Wel i , 1 i eirt%=inly an in favor of anything that will elevate the cultural
level and we :al -:.a ;::= + tittle epi 1 t ti ng in this community and secondly, I am all
in favor of enyt.hint; that: cements better relationships between the beautiful and
great country o1 Coiumhla ;and the. `.state of Florida and particularly our sister city
Bogata and the city of Miami. Now, the problem Vicki is that we have so many
calls upon our lri, C .. a1,: t';`• budget L; as tight a'- the budget can be, that the
City of Miami nt ti.is time ju t dog ; not have the funds to participate today. Now,
let me tell. you tsh;tt_ we .iro doing though, we have made an application to the National
Endowment fc:,r the Arta, and hopefully, Nora Swan and a group of us will be going
up to see Mrs. Nancy l(,nl.' whe :s the chairman in the next few weeks and perhaps other
members of the C;otcuaiss.i_rrr and the Administration would join us to plead with her our
case. Now, in addition to that, Mr. Parade2 and the Administraticn have also made
a requisition to the State of Florida for $168,000.00 for cultural items, now if we
are successful. in crit_hor or both of these or part of these grants, then I think we
will have funds that we will be able to select, certainly in our order of preference
especially since as I understand the troop has been invited to stay at J.L. Plummer's
house. I am sure this Commission feels very, very close to our sister city to Bogata
and that certainly the dance company from Columbia would have preference over any other
dance company that would come here, as you know there are others that come here, like
the Mexican Bailee, that':; sponsored by the U Organization, but we certainly
would be in favor , I atn sure, but right now we just don't have the funds, so the
only thing that 1 can say 1.s Mr. Andrews, I think the appropriate people under Parades
should meet with Ctrs. Aihornoz and try to get the basic information.so that when we
do, if and when we get the money we might be able ---
Mr. Andrews: And particularly, we might be able to further strengthen our potential
grant from the state by identifying this specific program as one of the programs that
we could include because the slate's involved anyway with the whole state and nation
Columbia.
Mayor Ferre: I had an additional thought which is what I told you the other day and
that is that you request, and L atn sorry Lucius Williams isn't here, that you requested
that this be heard by the Downtown Development Authority because if we ever work our
way out of the problem that we had with Star Theater, we are still somewhat in the
whole on it, but if that can ever he worked out then this might be incorporated into
that for Cusman Hail under the premise of Downtown promotion.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: T. think we talked about the Marine Stadium, as well,
Mayor Ferre:
Well, the Marine Stadium as you know is a much larger and l don't think
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you are going to ever get a ballet to dance on that, that's a
Mt. Plummer: I think you would have problems with the stage.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Really'.
Mayor Ferre: Unless it's a swimming ballet, now if you want to make the swimming.
Mrs. VickiAlbornoz: Well, since it's folklore and with a large Sunday night and the
music --
Mr. Plummer: Vicki, may 1 suggest that you go over and look at the barge and then
you come back and tell us?
with Frank
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: We did, we went A the same day, we have even had lunch down
there in that area and we went with a sister-in-law c4 the ColumbiaMPresident.
Mayor Ferre: I hope you were doing this on your time, not the city's time.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Yes, my time.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else you want to add.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: No, except that I leave it in your hands because we do need
your backing and your cooperation.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you got our backing. I don't think it's anybody here who is
against it.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Economic. (laughing).
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, 1 would like to incorporate and I am sure Vicki would have
no objection that the sister city committee have a representative to sit in on the
meeting so that they can be a part of it.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Excuse me, 1 didn't quite hear that.
Mayor Ferre: This should be a part also of the sister city.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: i agree 100'% 1. don't: know why they never call me to the meetings
because I am all for it, so I believe that in your meetings you could also insist that
we have some representation there so that we can work together. It's a two way street.
Mr. Plummer: I think it's all over now, we have a new president.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Good:
Mayor Ferre: I think that these two committees, the Florida Columbia Lions and the
Miami Sister City should have cross representation so that they know what we are doing
and we know what they are doing --
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: It will be very enriching for both of us.
Mr. PLummer: And I should make mention Mr. Mayor, for the record that --
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Oh! and the Bicentennial also, we have a presentation that we
have Steve Nostrand and some lady that was there with us --- janda Brown
I am sorry.
Mr. Plummer: I want the record to reflect the new president of the Sister City Committee
Mr. Tom Economu was here today, but had to leave and was all in favor of this program
and I think you are going to see a little bit different situation now with Tom Economu.
Mrs. Vicki Albornoz: Thank you very couch.
Mayor Ferre; Right on. Thank you.
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S7, PERSONAL APPEARANCE — ARNOLD TUCKER, UsOE M. ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT
WAIVER OF FEES AT INTERSQUAD GAME -ORANGE BOWL
Mayor Ferret Now, we will hear from Arnold Tucker who is here representing
U.of M. for Pete Elliot.
Mr. Arnold Tucker: Thank you very much Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. l am representing
the University of Miami. I work for Peter Elliot out there in the Department of
Athletics. As you know we are new engaged in Spring practice in football and complete
our Spring drills by playing a intersquad game annually in the Orange Bowl . Now, by
city ordinance there is a parking fee required ---
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor move that we waive the parking fee for the intersquad game.
Mr. Arnold Tucker: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second. Further discussion? Was this worth an
afternoon's wait.
Mr. Arnold Tucker: Well, last year you know we got a lot of complaints and remarks
from the people who went down there to hark and of course when they found out it was
$2.00 for the Spring game, they started going other places and we were the brunt of
many of those complaints, so we thought it was worth the time and effort to come down
and request the consideration.
Mayor Ferre: All right there is a motion and a second. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75ej,7
A MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE THE PARKING FEES AT
THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI INTERSQUAD GAME.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner. Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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58; CORRECTING NAME - ORANGE BOWL CONSULTANTS
Mayor Ferre: Is there an: thing else, there a public item?
Mr. Andrews: One more that Mr. Ri.•. e is here --
Mayor Ferre: All right Mr. Rice. then Mrs. Swan and then we will count with
the Police. A couple of years ago, we would have made you wait like everybody
else but now you are a member of the public rather than the City of Miami.
Mt. Rice: I want to tell vou it's a pleasure to wait and it's worth it.
I would like Mr. Lloyd to ;Rake the t}resent.it. on because this is not just proposed
by me, this is proposed by the L'::w Department also and it's to clarify the position
of the city for purposes of our forth coming litigation.
Mr. Lloyd: I think If 1 read the resolution, it's almost self explanatory, don't you
agree with me Mr. R.ice't (At this time the City Attorney, Mr. Lloyd read the resolution).
The idea was they just weren't quite completely identified with the first motions in
the resolution.
Mayor Ferre: is throe a motion? The City Attorney recommends,
Is there a second? Seconded by -------- Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
t11:SnEUT1()N N0. 75-348
A RESOLE f l tr1h 3 I oN N0. 74-603 AND RESOLUTION
NO. 74- 1035 I�i)R 1 BE'. PE;RPoSF OF CLARIFYING AND EXPRESSING
THE INTEN1 01• (.1IY COMMISSION iN DESIGNATING THE SELECTEES
FOR ORANGE 1i01?L 5`E'AD10M IMPROVEMENTS BY CORRECTING THE
DESIGNATION O1' (ARC SM1.TE1 tr ASSOCIATES, INC. TO FINCH-
HEEFY/CARR ti?SI'lE1 1. St?CL�,I'1;`;, INC., A PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION,
PURSUANE To EI{IEIR SVii:ilT'1ED QUAJ.IF'ICATIONS; FURTHER AMENDING
SECTION 2 oF RLS{JLU'1'IoN No. 7;i-1273 TO CONFORM RESOLUTION NO.
74-1035 td1Tl AMENDED MOTION r;0. 74-633 S0 THAT BOTH AMENDED
MOTION NO. 74-f,33 AND RESOLUTION NO. 74-1035 IDENTIFY AND
DESIGNATE. THE i'1RS'i SELECTED CONSULTING ENGINEERING FIRM
FOR ORANGE BOWL S'lADII`M IMPROVEMENTS AS KUNDE AND ASSOCIATES,
INC. AND MADIGAN-PRAEGER, INC. AS A JOINT VENTURE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manoln Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
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59, PERSONAL APPEARANCE - N)RA SWAN, CHAIRPERSON BI-CENTENNIAL
coMMITr'EE
Mrs. Nora Swan: First of all., I would like to commend the Mayor and the City
Commission in their selection of members for the Bi-centennial Committee, they
are most dedicated and involved group. ( won ttake any time now, but I will
be presenting some additional name's for your consideration since we want a
broad representation of the said community and we have had so many interested
persons who would be :a very valuable addition to the committee. We have a
very unique situation in the City of Miami in that whereas most cities are
the official Bi-centennial Organization we have third century and therefore,
we do not have unv funding at all ,and we doilq , At our last Bi-centennial
meeting, the committee requested that l come before the Commission and see if
there could be any fund.; provided Cor the operation and the expenses running the
Bi-centennial l went up to Washington last month and I paid my own
fare and my own e-:.n, ise ;, but we can't keep on doing that and there maybe times
when other rivAil-z>.r s ;way have to do things like that or there will be certain functions
we have to :attend. Mayor Ce,rre and his staff has been very generous in offering
their help and they have been sending out all the information or the mail using
their stamps but we de need certain money for operat':.on.
Mrs. Gordon: low much money do you need Nora?
Mrs. Nora Swan: Well.. the committee had asked me to ask for. $5,000.00 to be set
aside for the Bi-centennial.
Mrs. Gordon: This would be a fund that would be available for whatever expenses
on a reimburse basis.
Mrs. Nora Swan: 1'.�:�, c-har right, that's correct.
Mr. Andress: don't '/.rvw whether this is appropriate or not. I don't have enough
information to asist the City Commission, whether you can make such donation.
I have another thought.. th.2r are you receiving any funding from the Miami Beach
Tourist Authority?
Mrs. Nora Swan: we are not receiving any funding from anyone.
Mr. Andrews: Are you receiving any monies from anyone?
Mrs. Nora Swan: No, we arc. not. We are not receiving any monies.
Mrs. Gordon: ;'his is the City of Miami Committee.
Mr. Andrews: Oh: 1 know it is, but they are representing the total community.
Mrs. Nora Swan: No, just the City of Miami.
Mr. Andrews: I thJught you were more involved than just the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: No, here is the way it is. There is an organization in this
community called 'third Century U.S.A. which has been designated by the state and by
the federal government as the Umbrella Organization for all Bi-centennial Representation,
Now, they turned and asked each city to establish a Bi-centennial Committee. Miami
Beach has one, Coral Cables, Hialeah.has one and we now have one in Miami. It is
called the City of Miami Bi-centennial Committee. Mrs. Swan is the chairman and
we have all appointed members and it's a very super active committee, as a matter
of fact, it's so active that it's beginning to almost threaten Third Century U.S.A.
because we are really almost during as much as Third Century,
Mr. Andrews: In a sense, then I am in a right track in that this operates as a
sub -committee to Third Century, right?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but let me tell you what happened?
Mr, Andrews: But, we made a contribution to Third Century already,
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you Third Century takes all the money from the state, from
Miami, from everywhere and 1 think they have got a budget of 3 or 400 thousand dollars
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and they spend it, but they don't give us a penny. They ate going to be coming back
here asking for money. They arc going to be back here in tie next couple of months
asking - we gave them money last year and they will be coming for more money this
year. What she is doing is in effect beating them to the punch and saying why don't
you give the money to the City of Miami Bi-centennial Committee?
Mr. Plummer: What will the money actually be spent fur?
Mrs. Nora Swan: Well, we do have like,l had to go up to Washington last month, where
we have been negotating with O.A.S. they are going to have special programs, Art
Exhibits and Trade Fair and they would Like;Vicki, Maria Elena Torano have gone
up too, fortunately she has been able to go through Eastern Airlines and she has been
using that, but they said they would .like us to come back again next month and there
will be times some of the members might have to be traveling different places, we
might have to go to certain functions, or Luncheons, or I really don't know just how
many things, mailing or things that como up. I put in a special telephone for the
Bi-centennialat ray oxpease, hot w( do need an answering service and filing room.
There will he certain orerat i.ng expense and we have talked to Third Century, they
said no way would thcy .in any way give us any money. All the money goes to Third
Century and yet.'e are dc,ing a major part of the project and we will need an
amount --
Mrs. Gordon: Nora, I don't understand why you have to put in a telephone at your
expense, or even to have answering service with all of the secretaries and all of
the staff that we have here at City Hall, that we could assign to that particular --
Mrs. Nora Swan: Well, we have many people now who are getting involved from the
whole community and many of them corn not call except in the evenings and I felt that
it should be available to everyone. We have parades and festivities coming through
by the people, the next one is --
Mrs. Gordon: What is Third Century doing?
too?
Mrs. Nora Swan: That: i don't know.
Are they having the night answering service
Mr. Andrews: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Commission, if some way can be found where
we do not have to make an actual expenditure of city funds to assist such as we could
supply you with a person to assist i.n the Administration of your functions through our
Manpower Program which is nuite, wnul_d be a way of getting the people, even more than
one person, even two peopio':,'.'mild be young ladies that you could pick out that would
do secretarial work, they could be compensated and they could be Bi-lingual up to
$10,000.00 a year on annual basis and you could get quite capable people, that's the
way we can help you, but you are putting this City Commission initiOful position here,
we just don't have the money. I have not been telling the Commission of all the
Administrative problems that we've been facing. Some of the things that we are doing
to the Building Department and other departments to cut cost , in order to meet our
budget this year and we dust don't have $5,000.00 that I could recommend to the
Commission that we could grant.
Mayor Ferre: Let the put it to you this way. Metropolitan Dade County has had to cut
back, they really have a financial problem. I mean they are out of money in many
places and they have had to cut back to four day weeks and all of that, lay off some
people, now we haven't done that yet in the City of Miami. Now, what the Manager is
saying is that he is really struggling so that we don't have to lay off people and we
don't have to go to four day weeks, etc. , and because of that we are really in an
economic straights, we don't have those extra $51000.00 , but here is what we can
do.. I think this is what we should do, Nora andAibre of an imposition on you, but
#1. for secretarial work we will give you office space, we will get you an office
here if you need it, ok. You can use City of Miami stationery, we will get you
secretarial help through the Manpower which you can get somebody that can really be
a full-time type of an assistant: on this. Now, with regards to your trips, if it's
a trip that's essential, that you have to go to Washington to see the O,A.S. or whoever
it is, I think that's something you will have to work through the Manager's Office
and --
Mr. Andrews: Maybe, through the Department of Publicity and their contacts and
recognizing that this is - we are all headed toward something that represents tourism
we might through the airlines be able to arrange those for you without an expenditure
Mayor Ferre: Well, who could she work through in your office so that we don't have
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Mt. Andrews: But, I think because of the nature of the program that she is
carrying on, I am going to get Mr. Price to meet with you and assign someone
from his office to work directly with you because of the nature of the program.
Mayor Ferre: Would you do that? All right, fine.
Mrs. Nora Swan: We have Mr. M. Coley, has been working with us, he has been assigned
too.
Mr. Andrews: All right, then you've got the contact. I will talk with Mr. Price
about this arrangement.
Mayor Ferre: All right thank you so much.
Mrs. Nora Swan: ALI righe, thank you. 1 appreciate being here.
Mrs. Gordon: You don't: have: to pav for any postage or any mailing or anything?
Mrs. Nora Swan: No, no the. Mayor's Office has taken care of that.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else here that's a public item? What's Ed doing
here?
60, CLAUGHTON ISLAND - MEMO OF AGREEMENT
Mayor Ferre: Can you do Claughton Island in two minutes?
Mr. Andrews: Well, only from this stand -point if the Commission is acquainted
with the action that has already been taken, it's a matter of you adopting a motion
at this stage authorizing me to inter into the stipulation that we agreed to at that
South Florida Planning Counsel.
Mayor Ferre: What is the stipulation?
Mr. Lloyd : There are two, there is a memorandum of understanding and a stipulation
which are just simply recite the additional specifications that are in our development
order that's all.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything new on any of this?
Mr. Lloyd: No. Specifications that are in our development order that's all.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything that we don't know, there is nothing that is contrary
to what we voted upon?
Mr. Lloyd: No. No.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: I trove it Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second, Further discussion,call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption;
MOTION NO, 75-349
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING AND CONCURRING WITH STIPULATION OF
AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CLAUGHTON ISLAND
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
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Upon being seconded by Commissicner Gordon, the motion was pas:red and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor .J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
APR 10 1975
61, ACCEPT PLAT - VERSAILLES PLAZA
Mr. ChristopherDescalza l had a plat that was originally approved by the city way
back in 1974, since then the name of the owner and the name of the mortgager has
changed the actual plat had not changed and we spoke to Mr. Anderson, apparently he
had no objections what -so -ever, however he thought it best that the Commission would
pass another resolution on the existing plat if I am not mistaken ----
Mr. Plummer: Where is the location of it?
Mr. ChristopherDescalzcz The plat is at 3501 S.W. 8th Street and I had the original
plat submitted to Mr. Jordon.
Mayor Ferre: Does the sitv At tonne; Office recommend this?
Mr. Lloyd: What happened was the plat it's set forth in the memorandum, before it
was approved there was an updated opinion of title and there was a name changing, it
indicated both tho owner and the mortgagee ha d been changed, but that's been
corrected now and 1,- the state law requirt.s that all the owners mortgagee join
in the signing of toe pi:it. Are identical plat been created and executed by the new
owner and the mortgagee as prciper, so therefore it's an order to accept the plat.
Mayor Ferre: It is an order. is there a motion?
Mr. Lloyd: Yes sir, my memo reflects that.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-350
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED VERSAILLES PLAZA,
A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA; ACCEPTING THE
DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Rehoso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commiseioner Ma olo Rcboso
C:ommassioner Rase f:erdon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Mnuriio A. 1'c ri e NOES: Note.
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62, POLICE ACADL"1Y DISCUSSION
Mr. Plummer: There is two areas that don't set well with me. All of you have a
copy of it. Mr. Andrews `2, i understand what you there, but 1 am not quite
sure that you understood the question. The tax funds I understand, but what is
the idea of the fines that are being paid, or a portion of the fines that are £ oing
to support the academy?
Mr. Andrews: That c}n::E>r.vrit.ively by Metropolitan Dade County's estimate, the city will
receive $35,000.00 Tut .in actuality 1 thi.nk that we are going to receive closely
to $55 or$60, 00U. t)O from 'ha k (source of funds. You will recall that at one point , we
explained the rat::i c; tt;iU a h : c,e stion of insurance came up. Metro officer arrests and
clearance through COUTr versc s the City of Miami and we had a ratio of about
21 to 1 so the fi.gur.:: thatwe presented to you is very conversative. It was based on
the county's calcul.tlen of tle nt of money we would receive based on the clearance
of court cases. We thin.. it's wing to be higher than that. Closer to $55,000.00 that
would be added to this.
Mr. Plummer: Isn't th :e e proposal presently before the Metro Commission that a certain
part of Dade County fines dcr;ignated for rebate to Miami be diverted to the school?
Mr. Andrews: 1 dco 't know that it',; diverted to the school.
Mr. Plummer: Weil, you better check on It, because you remember when they pulled this
same thing on us before c:'eout paying for the State's Attorney Office? That was the
question I was askin t titre .
Mr. Andrews: We w.i 11 ITind out far sure.
Mr. Plummer: Now, the point that bothers me to no end, Mr. Mayor, is #7 and the last
two lines. The question was has anyone set down and discussed with the academy the
problem, (the speciat problems) the City of Miami is faced today by virtue of the
federal court order and 1 direct your attention to the answer,"therefore the court
order has not been formally discussed with the academy.' Now, I go back to that"sign"
that I put up in coy room and I think I ate, going to put one right up here. The only
way to measure ability is by"results", so far we've been under that court order now,
for approximately 1 ; years, Ja that correct Paul?
Mr. Andrews: September of 1973.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, so wo are ender it a little better than that. Now, that federal
judge said, "Ladies and Centiemen, you shall do this, this and this". Now, all l
am saying to yona is, and I will reiterate again, that somebody has got to go up and
tell that school or explain to that school that this city has got to produce. The
producing is the percentage of minority on that Police Department. Now, T am going
to tell you something, if you come hack over here to question #5, it clearly indicates
that we are not getting the results. Under no shape or form are we getting the results
Now, you can make excuses, you can procrastinate all day long but the one thing that
judge,at the end of that five year period is going to measure is results and we don't
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have them. Now, 1 would say to you without question that we have got to find
someway to het those ecto lod resuI t < which we are not today getting and 1 think
that someone has got to ,'.� to that c atlemy , that've got to tell them, "yes we
are in a special situation", and that they ila.'e got to work with this city so
that we can work toward ;he achit'vin:'1 that in results.
Mr. Andrews: Mr. N.av•-'r .i 3 ''tomhero of the= (:+immission, 1 hope'. I can phrase this
so you don't mi_sundt'rat:tnc': ;inv intent_ ''11 my part in approaching this matter;
but we are placing. :a .''trd+.'t; upon the school that ahoald not be placed there.
They should be eon';cit'nrt•' ,'t what year 1'tohlt':❑ is, hut they can only train who
we send Lo the school And who w ' clear ro soak] to the: school. Now, in reviewing
for the part l ift'.k-'n l:i ntla:;j,a:!;l we ,''tie over this very core'laally,We have
the statistics here. t't o1'lt' i:;i=.o net hoen t' i i:?linated from the academy based on
their ethnics harkftr.ound in the number:; that the Commission's believes that they
have been.
Mr. Plummer: t never irdi i t'• '. t:; tt 1 ug1t it does at best looks suspicious
when four LA) Latins .too Lailedt out i>.t t_!ic> :, tme day. It looks suspicious, ok?
I at: not s;ay i n ; t is t , 1 :!t •,•ot• i nt endow to aoy t h:1 t . All 1 ant saying is, we are
not getting the rt'>3!'1t..4. ud i have to :ay l: :end say it very clearly, if the City
of ,Miami w.iti c'pt' :, t i n t ht' i r own -;,•''t o ?. ':•t know what our p "ohlt'ms are and WO knew
what we've got to do to t' ut out w t h the end results and we don't have 14 / 15 of
' k i`, w all 1 am saying to
someone_ else to 1 ; ila�: �a�, , hor•or s what �'�_'u are going to do'! ,
you (1 am l iti.in;', von on not iot• {'.i { ), i)t'000at' right there in that edict of the
court is City `1an:igcr, wo .art+ not getting the re'auits and 1 am telling you that when
I look at this .1nswt'r il,.rt , that tili:4 court order has not been discussed with the
academy, it'a only tt'11;R:', ota thing, that we are not trying to do what we said
we were goini', to !.r•: t,' ,1 ..
Mr. Andrew-': ! am not in (IH ,ie(.:0.111 with von or the City Conmission. 1 think that
it should he discuo:;t•d i it ',:1 I i i,+, +i.i: c tth :t'd. 1'he point 1 am trying to really make
clear is that ane otoe, tl!.ttl,o a; l+i='';v 1 . in default ol, if there is any indic•:atitan
that individuate ,t:.' i t:'in); ';;:t ,''; t'i;t .,t tlac academy :and are having more difficult
time in the at%idor,y aaekeroond, that'; a .serious matter, but our
real pi oh ion t>oot t :' i:' ! t+ it tt> tit. leadenly • That's where the )roblem
is, bringing else,:-. t�' ,. . . .. ..h. r„ they :in hr accepted into the academy.
Mr. Plummet.: 1',: t 1 . t the ct'f i ee' can, you can blame it on anything
you want to h i:n:ir t, I . i tt: 000 is that. after 18 months, if nobody ha S
seen tit to CAL- the d:o :'n and tell that school what the problem is
I can't concei'.'• th it it' � t'ritt', to be done at all. You have had 18 months to sit
down and diacoa with the :+; :i.it tny, the' problem and nobody has done it.
Mr, Andrews: i•lr. itilt' :l:';tdl'nly has nothing to do with the recruitment process
and bringing tho i i4at c. ,'t=tt wt havo to offer the academy is trae mere point I am
trying to get :tc•ro ;:; • iind i t hr,,tight large numbers of the minorities to the academy
and large number:, it rt I + i:l„ l::isiht'tl . i.t. of the academy for academic reasons and not
for background an„ other rt.as .ns i would h;ivt• to completely agree with you. That's
not the case at tho pr+'sent time.
Mr. Plummer: i'r.t:l , the ,,civ reason you art' not bringing them to the academy is becalwe
of the method of rt'c r t i t i ll.;. Now, onrt'th i n,; is being done in that area. I heard this
afternoon th:it you got eood r,'st11ta for the next (7) days ,ok, but it doesn't begin
to tell the poople in good faith of thin: town for exatnple,"this boy gave up a good job
with Sears & Roebuck ,l• li.' had been wort i ng there for four (4) or five (5) years, now
this boy attended four wooka of :,,•h. o1. he war, then hailed out; 10 you know what the
reason was ? From wh it 1 .ni told, I could be wrong and 1 perfectly stand ready to be
corrected, that when they finally y;ot around to running a background check on this kid
who did they go to talk to hut 1ti:. immediate ex-wife, who is not going to have a
to say abt t t him .ind hoc.wst' t'1 that the kid was bailed out of the school, ►ipw hero
he is standing fait In th,_ cold, ho 11,1:1 t',ive'n up his job to come into our academy, now he
is out of the ,academy .tlui he is out in the cold with nothing. ph? Now, this kind of
person going around t.a 11: i n;, let me tell you something you can throw tons of money into
recruiting halt that opt' malt out them' in that Latin community telling what happened to
him is going to + c.ilntt'1--:art t .t•ry doi l:lr you spent in that recruiting program.
Now wait a minute, let me go on, hec:tttae
that's only one area.
Mr. Andrews: i'l':>, i+ut 1 want to Anawer that one yuost:ion. I would like to hear from
anyt,ne hero who knows :lho..tt tint; ono c•Isio and 1 Seriously doubt that a background
check dealing only with his wife' was cause for him to leave the academy or for the
Police Department to t'xt'r.'i:;e• judgment that he was nut a good candidate. l really seriously
doubt tiaat.. 1lore has got to tot• nor to it and it it is the same case that 1 am acquainted
with it was tar more extensive than that.
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Mr. Plummer: Fine. t+7,i might be right. ok? But. that's why that boy is out there
bad mouthing the Miami n`'li c f)t'partmrnt, because nobody would sit down and talk
to him. Ok, let's g('•frt':'. there:, :;hat about theepisode and I will document
this for you if you wish, o : h,,v who was t) be musteredout of the school and I
take on face value of what vein are saving; in these memo's that you know it to be
correct, but it could be a little bit different. This boy was taken over to the
Baseball Stadium. is that where von muster them out if they are to he mustered
out for some r"a';t+ir t,' the itase'1`ri 1 `.;ta(liuu, i:; there an office over there?
Unidentified Person: !'rr';runol tit i 1
Mt. Plummet: t11:. de t:,t. t.+i;.,!t .it•'', ;4i:.1 he WAS f l.lt out told:"Wt' wont you to
resign", he soit1 ."1 .11ut going to rt":itt,e, tilt'\' :;:tid,''it you will resign we will
give you Youi tin `1 h.' ri; .. t1r.;. von don't resign you will gt.'t 1t when we are'
good and re;ld\ .' i s'•'c:. .•t Caul, that's poor public relations.
I think that t'tirt C1!`: tell; "t !,' 'i, ye 1,•1, :! method that when we accept :1 111:11) that Wt.`
are r,t'int!. t.` d;' • '',ivtliino wI(littl ott,' 'wiv to keep 1)1m, because let rile tt'l1 you, for
a man to oiv•' up a j t; rno H,r .4 ::':ill t.1ke ;111d go .lien that school, we spend a lot
of money on that :'n\ , We `.land ,..=ulr'. ip ,. i,: 1 1 :service, we give them exams, we do this,
we give him ahvsica I s o:o o i vo i,_i1a ,1',o.•oht' l o i'',I t tests, but it seems like to me, common
Sense would tC'•1 ; you that .all Ott this would he done before you say to the man,"yes we
accept you , now give• up vtn r lob."
Mr. Andrews: Wt' l l , we' 1t;,\, 0Hr pl't'( t:'tillrt's since then.
Mr. Plummer: Wh,:'n?
Mr. Andrews: Well. within the 1:e t --
Mr. Plummt'r . Sot- i.rltn . , don't t;,.•tt i t t .. Ile .i one taav :Arcot.
Mr. Andrews: }?'!iwe n.i.,' !L!nV' '_! t"it procedures in .some of these areas, so that we
don't cause 1 \,.,..,' i 1 t .ir.,in;itt' all of them. but we certainly trying to
rL'dooe the i' 1 u,' 1 n,i i .. t
Mr. Plurttler
Asst. Chic: F lk ll sire' operating', with too little information,
toZ f ew facts. s. ,ind„oho Ooot t : 1' t :''o linvetl' t bothered to check the facts before
you cam, here total\ . 1t y,,!1 11,1 '.;,,1 \.':`t1 i 1 1 inti out that you are getting part of the
information you n01,1. Ili he 1 t.= _reef• or Hot, I am not prepared to say, because
I don't know what .'>li '„' 1t t,,ld ,,r t,,''..' you interpreted what you wt'ro told. If you will
give me the Hamel of the petHon you ;ire' talking; about I will got you the facts. All right?
Mr. Plummer: Sure'.
Asst. t'hit•f fox: 1 •.:ill pro it1c' \':'" 1.th .1 complete breakdown of why he was sop:trated.
And whu.vt:'r was fakt•n to lilt' li;l:•,h,il1 St;itlium and told somt'thing, which to me doesn't
sound very truthful; th•,t ot:lteult nt that you just repeated in my mind, just didn't
happen. Ok? Scwet wilt t;•iv,' to ';t r:i inht „1 1 h;1t nut too. 1 want to hr ing you up to
date on the ltlt't1 Io,' i';i:!turo act do tl illo wi tit the second clot l:lr4 for training programs.
It has boon in t'1 it•t t .t11 of thus (';:rt Dade' County just passed :t local ordiI)alu o or
resolution, i ant not sort, which, ;iht,iit two ,'r three months age,, which ,'ill 1 t it'd the' county
to collect the' s:t coed 1.t1t1 .'u evt'ry t ra11 i' offense in the Dodo County court systom.
Now, on hal.iu,t' ultirt.ttoly tiff• City of '';i,uti would he entailed to approximately $4/.00
per of:ficot during •. ono ',•t•:ir period, that's approximate So It would amount to
roughly $35,000.00 or l'orh;il'r; utort al fife end of the year.
Mr. 1'lutnmor: rt'r:ny, .on i to I1 ':oti it this :;tag, of the game that really and I don't
mean, because ovorvono op ht'r.' i..tlow:. t;lc'ttt'v 1;1 \',ry important But to me at this
Stage 01 the g.ltl, and the pl ob 1t'Itta that we Are i11t'llr'rillg money 1?4 not lilt` ;1nswt'r .final
$47.00 a student is fiat( (lit• otlsw't'r. Ronny, whit I am trying to say is this, are you
satisfied that t ver•ything', is h''ing float•• (hot can bt` done to comply with that federal
court ordt•r
Asst. Cliitt fox: chat'. 1oae1+',l'
Mr. Plummer: lt': 11.11's .t
going to ask of us.
idt•d cluo:;t •ton, hecaust tiiat's what ills' _ludgo is
Asst . !:hit'( Fox: Lot flit' ;nitre's:; one' port of the question t first about the roll of rho
institute .intl 1 (1,'tt•t't a nlisund,'rst.IU 3!1g; in your thoughts .1:4 to what that institute
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really 'goes. It deo5n't recruit for the City of Miami, it doesn't select, it
doesn't do anything. except train the people we send to them, It's up to the
City of Miami too se l':t the ret ruit and to comply with the court order, The
institute has not one ieta of ., responsibility or even reason to they
will Listen to tts, "they will say rhen that's fine, now you have a problem go
back and work it work if you thini: they are going to assist us in meeting
the terns with the court order, that's not so.
Mt. Plummer: Cik, L' 1 i ask the i le :t ioi. again of you and I just want a simple
answer, if you can. Arc veto coilvineed at th i t; time that this city is doing every-
thing within it's ttot•t-r t,: wi t it the federal Court order?
Asst. Chief Fox: Will -in tip iitni._
Mr. Plummer: That's not the answer.
r lqirces, 1 have to say "yes".
Icir. Andrews: May I a! w,r the rj ;!. };' i .'.t . zi : 'uc I would have to say, "no", but
qualify It: this v:t, r'i;ti ::•akc. .;,•-;c' what we are taking means a rather
disc optive apiiro;+ei, fl E;t_r•, l ,tqt,. other tn.-ittors .
Mr. Plummer: Well,
you think the lodge
t-rr huv ;.ii:a' 7
t Paul. Ok, Now let me say this: Do
Mr. Andrews: We hav" been - I don't know.
Mr. Plummer.: Yeti l'et t t r know!
Rev. Gibson: I want to raise' a slues' iot Before ;.a man can join the Police force and
be certified he iw :o go through that cl;ti;,1 . Do you know what really is disturbing
me? That your t.1ue:; t i r n Answerel. ;:, ;•7, if we are a part of that school and we
have an equity and :a rig;l.t in that <.c h.,::1 . why haven't we put our problem on the line?
Well, Fox I don't t , r t;t :.•L,., t you t 1 t rn , if You don't tell me that you have gone and
discussed,Y .Kit'VPPit`'i° •• ;tint much re ;;,c, i,ec a,t,e I happen to know that if you were
dealing with my !' i `<;I,,it , ;1 t', to 1 ri t: ibson, "how many souls did you win", and
if T didn't tome oh with in';It"rtee he would say (libson. maybe you weren't
working. 1 woold '. . itt ;! ' : i t .,; :,: i have been preaching like and
you know what the N;i ;,•00,1 .i, f i.;ta.:, you didn't preach hard enough: That's
a very simple rule tit;' I'lt'!;t;'Vfl (tl;,ai ,1,:,=:,tit'in is a very siiitple one to me). Do we
have anything to ?; i;lt' t u::t ee in' t with the school? I am a trustee of a
college, Man,when t : } r ! ,., . t'.t. ': would come to the t rus iecS and :.ay look.
laud I say this; Mr. I li',):' t ;,1,f 70 day, and if 1 g} lve to offer a motion, 1.
am prepared to niter. t r :�r` r, ,,_ 1. Mr. Lloyd what that is4th l }rye
this whole Administ-
ration all the i'r! 1 i , p ep t e personnel lit days, in which t0 discuss the problem of that
court order. lake the t: I t v Attorney there and explain what we are faced with. I am
prepared to offer that zi a r-:ot.lon ri{,ht. new! That's a mandate.
Mr. Plummer: Father, vt tl know, that'-; tine and I agree with it 30 days time. I am
always a great one for a :_ 3:t;e gun. Whit : happens if they go up there and they are
sitting there toIE-in}', t:> dt:: ` Cars?
Rev. Gibson: 1.1.. I ,:tin t t'erybed•.' on this Commission to understand me tonight, listen
to this Mr. Mayor. I .i;;i n tt responsihle ter results, T am responsible for pr 4ed ing to
get results. The f .r t rem -iiri:; the Ita' t: not proceeded in that direction, so I want them
to proceed. Now. it they t . rie ha: k Liar,• aad telling me that the school told them to
go to _ you know what, maybe we have to go to that thing you wore talking about .1.L.,
maybe we need a separation.
Mr. Plummer: Well. rather, y:>u know and 1 hate to put anybody on the spot, but I've
got to because 1. think thr pros:, is going good, but Neal Garfield, Lt. Ross, told
before this Comnii:;ion :at .i time we don't want to discuss, but they stood before here
and tliey expresf;ttd t•: i t h.nit question, they expressed at the time "Kenny", that they
were not happy in the wean that the acadL;av wee- being run • ok? Now, I want to hear
those two men today, 1 t the, are still are wori.ing in the same position or are their
concerns, the people who arc closest who express to this Commission that they were not
pleased, I want to hear that they now have made some in -roads and maybe (not that this
Commission h:.d anything to Jo with) but the situation is now better. I want to hear
that and I haven't titans it!
Asst. Chief Fox: They are here and thev c'an c ome up.
Mr. Plummer: Flue.
Asst. Chief Fox: Could I clarify one thing first, in my own mind? what role do you
expect the institute to pl;Iv in near recruiting; program?
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1`ir. Plummer: Are volt asl:inc me, I will give you nn• Answer. ok? My answer is thist
look,I don't like the i(!el rati;i I have said it before ;.and 1 will say it again, that
I can't go out here ;it,t .it'rnurtd the finest j)e't)1)l.e available. If I had my choosing,
the finest people .avoilabie , but that's not. within my cloosing, because this city
is under a court order and that ct:)ur1. order :states vt. ry clearly you wil 1 have
certain perceni;1i '; t.,i Latins, c'rt;lin , r'1':-nt_i ,,es of Blacks, and make up the rest
from whatever of what. •:on want:. Now, lte,viy ::_' can kid ourselves, but if we don't
comply with that "','''i't oracr :•ri.li.c.h we agr:,:_!a we are kidding ourselves. We are
just kidding our-n 1'.t:.;. '1•.J I am ;;a:'iii t , you, that if we operated our own academy
and you Ii;id to take aid kceP the Blacks After School
to give them Special At -r l-w. ' 1 !ltg11 that. academy, then you got to
do it. If it takes m "rt:' fitcaey, t_hdu .(:'i .,'t.. t,) do .it. If you got to hire a person
who does nothing but sit there all day and tutor Latins. so that they can speak a
little bit bettor i ,-;let; ..;t ,,,t t , ,i , From what I hear this academy is
treating the i; l t ' a:ttldle Sweet Water, which is not under any
federal order iu L:N,i,Al• ,;i.tt ;l`. answer.
Rev. t.'ibstni; t'i' •'.a.i'. a L u. ok? You declare that i said
some things r-ii,+i_ , ni we' .
?: . i lati after the meeting is over and
I want to att.ai'."' t;:trt• tilt', .:frill. I't, the .:e. I am concerned Chief, all of you, that
you haven't talked with !hat ..t:tn:)t).i. and 1. '.'ant to tell this Commission; this Commission
will be nettlort i.i1 it, lay.- . aod w I i ; H! ' .'o i i h not to i nst -uct all the respons it le
parties to talk wt,il tH,it hn,1. All ri: ';t, let_ me prove Lt. I want something
definite and aL 1.ii i' i . "' ileac h ' th i..: - r •t.• '_: i t:v of Miami presently, (Mr. Lloyd l
want you to heat thi 1`t-altv,' . u. it goi-i)z{ to have to come up with the answer) i
am going t:o iili i.:“ 11 r',;•.tl it':' ;;(lull, to I1:1V"' to he given on this. The City of Miami
.,tr,.; t. ,A;1 It n r\':,-'line (1 11ew Fire Station. we premitted
a man to Ct)li1N Bert' mr , e tit <'t'i +`Ul) It. itid Clk7 The man that won the bid was
a Latin, he hunt tUrc. ;• ,?t:i ±Idiu, has his work force, it may have changed
since I tatkLti ,. ),, tt t! •. hat. i .sat pave to the Mayor why 1 keep talking
about- helve ;du t,; r ,m. _ i t i, '. i)'.. r .11,,t, 1 you see you fell ows are not --
SO anv'JaV the i; i\or '.111 .'il t ,1 ii"', •;,ii, ;:tit i'110 :,', is reS a big_ CitYfire department
going up :;t :1. i'' i ;:;i t and .. tt[Tact. being spent and he said, there
isn't ;' t L.' .'-:t..iitll thin' is you can't hardly some-
times detect h•'t\+'a .`,Lit.•, ,'u von can detc'hetwecn a Black and a Latin
or White, ok. :.o, I ,i :I 7:11 , ;"r,t `'1.;'.;11;;e: they said something like tha: when the
police station 1,. ,- there and i found that they weren' z well
founded. 1 to:•i; )t , ,ittaut , i called her and said 1 will be down
and get you And wA• At ;, ,aut t;.a ,,at there and 1 went in the trenches,---
1 know how von r . t ii.it. , because 1 rain a church. I walked all
over gr:.'rtii.<i tt,':s: c i 1 n 1 y.et !t t •uty,tl wa i k i.ng. 1 said to one of the workers;
I said, "where it the ,.tc,- ;a1ti Iit tilt' .'tttt't' in there. I said, "oh yes,
fine. I happened t 1.1" 1. sir. `tilt' ti;;,;sa was afraid i was going to get in the way
of that contract, t)t cati, t' i :,-c :I1;ii:;; t`i ;t:'. 1 di.dtl't say Clothing, I walked in
said "Hey Man, new are 11. i l•1A, 1 i!tt'. 1 s:!id. "man how in the world you can be
out here with a t, i'; " . - . . t'n1 ' .t,-t_ bu i lt1 ins. :Are stations, with hundreds of thousand
dollars"; listen t," tlli i •;.+id that th, is isn't a ,single Black on this job, not only
that I said, 1 ,oeceinee i 1 11 you ....'tl t have at single Whitt'-AngIo-Saxon All the
taxpayers mont•'; .;t, t i.t• ..,., build t 1n i., hu t Ill i ng. You had bet ter damned sure gel some
Blacks and Latins on ttli. _I+di. 1I1111? Bl.tt'ii and White -Anglo-Saxon Americans, ok.
Listen to this, .al i i:,nl•,ta)--- 1 let t. t:'il,_ re, i came back here and went up stairs and I
asked for the :'tauuge1 and the t'cr:!t;tt iai i":.e .'t-tiures to got the Manager and before 1
could talk to the 1'laaa}:nr, J.L. Plummet was .'Doting down the hall way, 1 said, Mr. Vice
Mayor, come in hove, tt .:.1t1 fear t h is;. 1 . ,:'tit n1V Administrative Assistant out of the
way so that oohed.,' -- ;t' the three ,, ,•nt in and i told them how 1 felt. Let, me
tell you somethi tit., 1 .1.. r.td,'t fled to l t' ! ; t7te About the contractor and all this --- 1)o
you know what. 1 ::.lid tt' .1.1 . 1 don't :'.iv. .t damn° ; 1 said thaticity money even though,
he may have a [readyr• . , i ,-t :1 t hat„nt r;ot't II the Manager wont out there and told him
what was being .. id .ii,i ; I',.' ,i t i t u•1, ,a .it least one Commissioner. H e knows then he is
in plenty tr,uthlt. ,,-; :ow, lot: !-it .::1'•,' Ibis, the paint I am making is, that takes
me to the o1.he1 p'to t 1 l t'u , Mr . "'..i,"r , W, fef',{ I ,t deV&'lop a policy (lore so t rom top to
bottom knows that we me: t ail i rilt:lt iVe• action all the way What we are saying to you Chief,
is that We mtr •n of f i r:r„1 t. i a: t i ttn i 11 t 11 I :; 1)o l i ce business. Now, if you don't go and talk
with tht' people, i 11;.i'J&' sell t• rent r','a t l , til:: in my mind when you talk to me,
presently is Ioti.ttiin,1
Asst. Chit't l'tt•::
1';10 1 .t:):'wt'r your que,;t. loll:
Rev. Gibsoin: Ye, .'t'.
Asst. Chic] Fox: •ih, sttl,a•tvis.tr of the ad'.i-;;try Committee at the Criminal Justice institute
is not un,'awai a ttt the pat t is I t i la;t 1 t•t tler. Mien the question was asked, "Has this ht'en
tt n
formally discus'" with I I:, ui'.' i 4,!t i' 1)1l 1 l t t';', the answer i;: no , l [ has not been put
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on the agenda and brought to an issue befcthat committee, all right. Thete i.;
no formal strricture discussion that has flap; c'ned out there.
Mr, Plummer: Why?
Asst. Chief Fox: Why? I. need your guidance at this point, why should I? What would
you advise me to ask them to co And I will damn sure do 1t.
Mayor ferret L hove 1•:..;+t: very quiet. let me take a crock at answering that one.
Chief, the fact tliat Net.rclpol itan t)ade Count; .is not under, a court mandate does not
in any way mean that they are forgiven et that they are set aside from federal law.
Now, the difference tts And there, is !hat t,r. ,eclr took us to court and forced us to
do it, but that doesn't mein that t'i `y : t'+1 t havt' to do the very same thing we are
doing. Now, let. me tell you somethinttt1 had it here' a little while ago, hut l sent It
to the ;tanager). thtl'.•l i'.'t' Com*t,i<:<;ienor 'ot the City of Newark, i ran into in Washington
D.C. at e'lle tut t.tit::t i'. i tut i;i,: iN` . _;l! tt'd talking to me about it, and I said,
-we are under m;i:H.; t eo I sa i d' t< le don't you send ino ;a copy t)l
your mandate:/ 1 'w':i!.. 1 'tl, wr'tltt ..'it end out a copy 01 that --
Mr. Andrews: !fie lit
Mayor Forte: :tr know that ct);:rt is, r trnrne the City of Newark Pol ice Department. '1'lae
court is not only ell;lrli;it i:;. t_t, there arc' !'t.>illt' down way much further than they came
with us, they are tt: 1::no them step hy stt:gip what. to do. 1)o you know how far it has
gotten in the !,1t. '' 3t'':.' hi ;;_ City of Newark - It's not the city, it's the
State of New Jersey ._ ur;t' the t 1v1 1 act: , , t'e Board for the City of Newark is controlled
7 t 1 t.' . C Service ] 1 "
by the state and tht mandate _t� t;u.: .�t_. t.t' Civil �e.r� ice is "you shall have two registers
and everything is dom. on l't tt,r i):!is,t is i!oillotiling to do with quality, they don't
toot f a f oti;; i with this thing and you haven't done it, now
care. You have e�ntui�;.l t ,rn,� t
it's tough luck bide'.' , now yeu've Lo 1 i'.e` under a quota and it is the quality of the
Police Departmi rlt. eoe ::tt i t 'r ,_,„ ?..,.1 , i 1 ' your fault, you should have done something
about it ;i long; time t e. This is the t.,..tuna time the court has become involved. Now,
I am going to Lei] ve:r i deh't wart that to happen to ;Miami and 1 am sure you don't
want that to hai.cti, tt.l:it' I sleety : k 1'c'dt ral. Court of tie United States tell ing
us that wo arc: _, iu ', ,a:: '..itt• he l I with all these high reg;ulatiols and
requirements th;tt. w, e,vc e the city. ;tent u_; somebody Is going to take us to court
and force us iota, Hat po:iHen ma i t h ink ht't ore it happens., What Father is saying,
and what I am .avi;ta,. ..ncl . ,':fair: Hat rr ail of us is saying is --- if l got to go
some place that i .',r`, t. weal Io t ,:tutu,' go on my own two legs and in my own
way and go on rare .too I :t tut n t,' h;1\ t• ::ott:c h;'rly grap me by the neck and put a chain
on me and take me at Laeir p t•, and put -sic' ur`:• n wherever they want to put me down.
I think that unless ;tt i +;c:,, ',-o acti.on i:, ruore than just two words, it means that"what
should you de,'. well 1. ti'=.::;. hat this is ;i matter that ought -n be very openly discussed
at these meetings h ::u:-ie tic; is soc+;.:thiiw that you are going to be faced with and I
will you a prediction that N:.la will be faced with it within the next 12 months, I mean
before a federal court.
Asst. Chief Fox: Mr.. Mayor. 1 don't di:.tii;it'c' with anything you have said, except 1 ask
the question, what would von ask me to ask that institute to do for us?
Mr. Plummer: Lc't me tell you what l have in mind. Kenny, I would even go to this
extent that we do in :,t:t keep our student:, in that school presently a it is constituted
but if the Manager hos to provide you with Additional funds for special tutoring to keep
these people in that institute,the.; ,.:in identity weakness if a man has a language problem
or whatever kind ul problem it is;, because 1 and assuming that most of these students are
bailed out for :tc.uit'mt rt':,t,u:;, that_ we in tact -- whit are most of them being bailed
out for?
Mr. Andrews: Itat kgrot.uld itc'.
Mr. Plummer:
ight?
WI' 11, � ct :s.'c, t.li it C:a!1 he• done before he over gives tip his other job.
Mr, Andrews: Yes and that's the part lee• Arc' trying to change ---
Mr. Plummer; 1 ant :. ty'iug, let's keep our students in that school. Ok? Then Mr. Manager
whatever you have to do t.) provide the extras to keep those students in that school, let's
get hard on it and let's :;tart providing, whether it's special tutorship of whatever
kind, let's do it.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, let's not have somebody being thrown out of the academy
for something that perhaps, we can with a little more effort t'emedv Now, let me tell
you know, illy A '..auredoiuw lather don't you get angry with menow, but I ant };oil)};
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to tell you something, f am going to renleos to you something which I didn't under-
stand until Louis explai;led it tta me, :w sdid;`we1l, some of the Black Policemen or
trainees get thrown out hecause they can't swim", I sa.id,don't tell me a person
can't swim, just throw there in the water and they will start swimming, that's what
I do with my kids. 11e said,"net man, that's not the way it works." 1 said, anybody
can swim., He said'wel1 Black people have .a hard time swimming." I said, 1 don't
believe that. I lust can' understand the logic` of that. dlc' said, tam going to
tell you something, my roommate, thio is i.lttli•:, at Colombia University WAS all
American 13askethall,i'h1 Beta Kappa, top t't his t•1ass, tti n scholastic scholarship
in spite the fact he :r.t- ;,11-Americans, Basketball and he" was Black and he couldn't
swim and in Columbia :i:t.'r`:it , it a reT;lllir'et;;nt(1 don't knew why), it's seems
crazy, that you oot t ;to' , i` ,tee 1 't;ttltt ;te. so they sent this kid to special'
swimming classes and he toulent_ swim. itit'v took him to a psyclmiatrietand finally
they threw him in t he and the ;iiv .lust started to sink and they had to
graduate him Item to omtHo '4i'T';ent learning flow to swim. 1 can't 'Indcrstand
that, but c'v i_derit. 1'. ;?itl`E-'a' bt t rue • I r1ue =;s it's a psycho l oe i c•a l t h i le forkids
' 1 to the beach and swimming or they
don't get i .'11a i'. .� �, .�l' ;, 9t`r t.=:-� t k:.t�,S,' tlt` 't i;i�, l;
grow up with their mother :nd Lathers telling them and putting tie fear of water in
them. 1 do:1H kteoo }.:: ;,, i'i { 1� 1 ''.ri L; - WE' have gotten to do something --
Rev. Gibson: oa el , let r:,, partially answer that. Until I came b;wk here
in 1945 preaching in tti. ,.;ifrch where 1 :gym, there was no where in this town fur Black
folk to swim. !.:e lool fe travel all the ',.,;a1.- to Ft. . Lauderdale, 30 miles. I was born
and raised here, - t Ito. o the ,:ror, Here was no where for them to swim, so that's
part of the problem. at. 1><1r•l t;+ thiL, thing. 1 didn't tell you the other part, do yoti
know what that ettti;t.''or told me, :-?r - '•t•t'.or when i went in there, he said, did you
see that sign that- l havc o•ct thtrt . r ;aied,"wh:at sign are you talking about. He said,
that"equal opportunity". 1 said, t i 1 (1.'e' t :crow me that sign, because i lived under
that sign all H sr: iifc aod i am .•• neern d, that this City Administration be instructed
to go and talk with t ha: ,. t, 3' 1 T.t't me t e 1 1 you - we pay pretty nice salaries for men
to Come up with i mac i n>tt i '.'r ideas oed coe don't pay the kind of salaries we pay these
men to just keep in Arnf :,! flat ., fief the way It is! I wouldn't be loyal to the
people who trusted ow oy ; i;, , ;fir le, when we settle that, I want to raise this
quest.Lon fir. - aol eon the item, hut I want to raise the question
about these coo r,ot:;; th t ,.e I am too going to let this city build all these
public building :a:;u t:hit+' Amer i n It., ,,': lud d, nor Black America anc: the Latins have
it all. Let tE•i I ' ,1_,. 1 :n, to raise that- when that man made that bid, I
have ne assni-ct ,.-c t;,; i n;; skill labor or labor up there - what-
ever that is- that's whv ,eI 1 have no sympathy for him. I want a
fair shake for rylt:= i': , 1•'•eaose rlu•'.' did it to me doesn't mean I have to sit around
and let them d t,; it t;Ettiv t'i':E:'• 1 know better, that is expected of me. ok? Ok Chief
I want to hear l;ot• ;o;1 a: E..g ill4 to address t.liis issue.
Chief Watkins: First, 1 would like to explain just a little bit. 1 don't believe all
of us understand completely what the insitute does. I think if we had a little bit of
an understanding In what the,: are doing and trying to do, perhaps some of these questions
could be answered. '1 ev ;:;`t wotkirlg, of eoorse, they have standard to meet to qualify
someone for a Police Off tc'er, his i:, soil by the State of Florida, so there are minimum
standards no '';'Mier--- ever if a federal t curt order came through they would still have
to some way to me L Lhe :t ;te standard. That's number one & what they are in business
for and even it we had our own academy We would still. have to have a minimum standard to
qualify someone to he sworn ill as :t Police Officer.
Mr. Plummer: Gurlanl, there is no truck with that, the only thing l say to you is, if
we were operatinit '';im t`.•:n academy And instead of closing the doors at 5:00 O'clock, if
we had to keep it coitenc!.. lot 1 1 7:00 O'clock, or 8:00 O'clock to give special consideration
or needs, wc' could d,' i t . hot I don't think there is any provision at the Criminal
Justice.
Chief Watkins: ) l i;;r;ioner, roilld 1 t'o ahead this little further, 1 think will answer
answer a few things of the question. What they do when they have students
that are beltawi,slt`ert aln areas, they wi 11 take,say they don't qualify to graduate out of
this class, halt they leave the oPt i 'u withthe agency to recycle the student where he
can go into the next ct,rr;:;. Wtr have had more than one student. that has been recycled
to go through. Not. allT t i,you say academic: and what happens if i t 's an attitude
where the person just simply des not want to make any effort to learn. That's one
that I think you have to set over here. Now, if you got someone that's trying, 1' 1 I
take that person that's trying and do what you are saying, but the institute does have
programs for this. Sgt.lugr<alram would like to tell you about it. I think the idea that
we are going to have to get mere involved, whether it's something similar to the t ri-
cultural program to groom the people to where they can pass the entrance LO get in, I
am all for that, I :n: n.11 for working more with theta, we did this with the swimming
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program that the Mayor w:t-; referring con. We :l tu,_il lv developed a program r1,ther
than wash the applicants e nt to when: they did pass end they were very pr t d once
they passed. Sr the city ea'••' and the ini.ifvlit,ti gave. lift f think a lot of this
not all of it:, but some of it is fmpiv misunderst:3ndlnt' of the. Institute & haw
it functions and some of the things that we are concerned about they are trying to
Address. Bit there still hes to 1,f' c'ertein standards that all the popils , candidates
or recruits has to rtlfntain. Sit. lnerannt i'e aid probably fill you in on what the
institute does.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell mere, tieryhe 1 cnn pinpoint it for you what my thoughts are.
Paul, about. I'z year age, we got l spe>:i:li ,rant because we couldn't get: Blacks to
even qualify to get_ into hoo 1 I i.re• • 'ioo 1) . do von remember that? We got a special
grant to put ;i group et 111.aeks, about ii of them in school for special training to
qualify them to take the Civil Service Board, Am I right, Andy? Ok, that's exactly
what 1 am saying that. w fl.!cd to d I,c•r: , t.elether it's federal grants, or whether it•'s
city money, if we it ? ;e t , i [lit ? •. C` ;72 +`r -;8'; i o get these people through the school
we got to do i t . You 1tt,i.e,,,• ,, _ don't it, it's distasteful but we got to spend more
money than we should Move ton. Kitt t:arlind 1. don't. see .it any other way.
Chief Watkins: ;i!te net ie di. ,tee e e meat..
Mr. Plunmier: Well, we ere in disagreement bee:ruse of this fact; 18 months of the ehwk
have run and t don't. see lnv great Affirmative action being taken place, and when 1
get the answer `,nick ctr:rt nothing !aav been done with the school informal or mainly f orate i
action to evert dis;e:u' :'rtr" '!art ic'-tiar pri'hlem, that doesn't say to me that we have acted
in good faith. What has On school count? I hear (maybe like Kenny say4 and 1 agree
with a little bit knowledge is c!,:vorou ;• but I would like to know why they are getting
rid of the ,Admiral triter (A- !he hr>ad ;d that school that's the, have had to get a new
one. Now, there ntur;t have been some reason and I would like to know the reason. Am 1
correct, they are '.;e.tt: teat!, a new AethilnHtracor in the school? Why? I would Like to know
why. Maybe, that wi ! i ? iv+ the th<:t t am looking for. the other guy was sitting
on his duff doing nothitt.: ::t>J thv nee ed ;i new guy, maybe that's what 1 need to hear.
Sgt. II -en -ahem: 1 t i1A7-N„i to institute some things that you are talking
about and those thin.};;•< ;iro at this time being introduced where it was a little bit more
than introducing Chat kind o t t r.i i n i ne, veto h: ve to kind of train the people that were
there to do the t. re i na ne - We tl:i:! rreiring adv is:ors that needed some training in expertise
and maybe direct ins' i e i to :•:( ;.. , ; trot their background. They came on as Police
Officers. I came on a • :1 of lee ou r icer. i was assigned to training and there have been
some things that were tl;ti )mine in trr;i.rini, that were deficient. Some of it, in fact,
most of it, because people did not understand and there was no coordination between
say, Civil :ierv1:e, i',• .11. of whomever ve?r that send people into the academy and there were
short times to train ie. e,p1e. When it became very obvious that many people came in with
deficiencies then there were cnie alt or-natfves, that had to he developed around assisting
these people in applying themselves and getting through the training. In some instances,
departments co-operated a:; the thief mentioned in recycling people --that was one way. The
way that we are doing it in t.hi:; paint is using tt-e facilities that are available on the
campus. One is rite 1: atom;; fah, it does demand a little bit more out of the trainee
in as much as he has to do on his; own rime, but the facilities are there, they are
available; some of them :oe using it. It has not be optative that long, because it's a
building kind of prod': as we recognize the deficiency we get to work on it.
Mr. Plummer: Couldn't this he a part el pre -employment agreement that if he is deficient
that he must put lei this :additional time, can't that be a pre -employment?
Sgt. Ingraham: There are .evt'ra! things tle.it. I don't know if the city does. One of the
things that happens out :It the acadett V(t nor talking about City Civil Service) now, is a
reading comprehension , speed, academic achievement kind of test Claughttin Nelson being
administered. Oft time it indicitrs (von know) what level a person is on in terms of his
ability to achieve. Interestingly, in comparison to Blacks and Whites, many times blacks
in and score very low. That means that they ;are going to have to put in a lot more
time if they intend to achieve. Now, Blacks and Latins both score very low, excuse ate,
The academy runs where there in a lot: of information. A lot of Cor?nitivekinds of things,
you know, wi .h rig words :and that good stuff that come right in at you at a high rate of
speed in the first t ive or week;. Now in order for a person der icient to achieve
he is going to have to put in some. -- when I say deficient now, I don't mean in reality
deficient I am talking about lack of having the informationthit's going to take trim an
average of 4 to 5 hard }tacit of Study on his own outride of�ltt yhe what anybody else may
do, every day rather.
Mr, Plummer; Are you in your :wind statist led at this time that there is sufficient change
in that school, that. you see the direction ultimately going toward what this City
Commission has got to ;it.1t1eve,? Please, 1 hope that this can be in the form of informal
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discussion. What do you need to get the job done/ Are there areas
that we can provide monoy that t1i rt,, are things that could be done that are
not being done, are there reading ttators there, are there swimming instructors
there, what can we do to help you, to :loop the Chief, help the -city achieve7.
Pbw that's all I am getting at, I Am not trying to pick on anything. I am
here to say to :'tau,"gentlemen what can this Commission do to help you, you the
Chief, the school. everything? Because Man, 1 am a true believer in results.
They speak loud, '•I:,w I don't want. yt is to answer. If you want to think about it,
fine, but I in 1'tst saying to v'tu, we: Trot to make good in -roads, I don't see
them at this time. 1tZ ;e:ir that Mock has ron something has got toP,Rone a
lot more differently thin what's beinrr. done now and the only other questions that
I. would like to ask and 1 will shut up, I would like to know why a new Direci:or
of the School ha:; been hired and I would I ike to hear from Neal, Garfield ant.
Lt. Ross as to the problems that they thought about in December, that they have
been corrected r it the pre, c'f being corrected.
Mr. Andrews: 'Pit;;et to that, that 1 have suggested to the
Police Pors;catnr. 1 1ti rt'!t'rcu. +.' I the Ha
Mayor Ferre: How :., it i Ace we s;t' il:,t to be, because I don't mind sharing the
morning with yt.,t. and I don't mind :sharing the afternoon, I don't mind sharing part_
of the evening, lrut i will he damnedii I am going to spend the night with you and it's
8:00 O'clock and we still have a whole bunch of other things to go and I had an 8:00
O'clock iip1%t l'.at moot , 50 how birch Longer are we going to go today.
Mr. Plummer: i;it.h those three questions answered, I will shut up.
Mr. Andrew1 !tl;it irtt' lt' t.tlot?};fit. 1 hi Statement. There is one thing, 1
think we can achieve through t.ho institute, tlt;it I have asked the Police Personnel
to look at rand thr i 1 r t<. , i;01 i :at .a 1 1'- l program in the institute that would keep
the individual i II t I "; tour floors :a lay, have him if we can t. ork it out with
his current et^p lovo't, 11;#:',' him continuo his employment with his employer and four hours
a day, his sc:ltt}i? t t itg !•.'G1it l t1 .'u'i;i_' .;t ,a little ,-flower pace, he would be able to keep
up and • tt t :woo i c t: i ,' rttry ,'' those that have a language barrier :and
through that ,rr : , :;: ;, i t 't r'';. :: n taking twice as long, naturally, instead of
17 weeks, it. might t;a,:t.' ,ongk r t':#?it ',nat.; there is an opportunity that you would get
more of tho!itt pelt' '..il. #a't' i' '.cat rile+tu h the :acadetay.
Mayor 1erte: a'.' , a:l;,t l ic' !' ;t.,`,t, ,out it':, :a little unpractical, because 1
going to te11 you "Yes we will keep them
don't Sear::: :lia+_ti fltU{. s-tie':;t' t'trIroti;iit`)-i
on and you Like hour, ;t day
Mr. Andrew's: i c's worth tt: ,:luring;.
Rev. Gibson: `it. ria; u , 1 tnu''e vn'i 5 i r , that the Administration and the Personnel for.
the Police Department be instructed to ';it down with that school and discuss that court
order and go met tile: i1rC'tti<':1IF; involved therein.
Mr. Plummer: And report hack to this Comm: ss'_on in no less than 30 days
Rev. Gibson: Right.
Mr. Plummer: I will b,t'c#ni the motion.
Mayor Ferro: Report what:'
Mr. Plummer: Repot t: barb ;'It:tt the d1r;c' o sittn was, what took place, and what the genera:
feeling war;, and what they offered to tits about It.
Mayor Ferre: A11 right , there is A motion ,and a second. Do you want to speak to it
Mr. Andrews:
Mr. Andrew::: 1'e• I think we will do that and I am even willing to participate and
want to parit:ip.ate iit tit,at, but 1 think atter we get through with our discussion if
you have any quo sti:#na we ought t to 1 ut the Director of the Institute here or someone
represents that represents than in:-;titute so that they can give their impression of what
we wi 11 try to impress upon them.
Rev. Gibson: I made the motion. l am going to leave that up to you, sir,
Mayor Ferre: t-tu-ther tliscttssion, call the:, roll.
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The following motion wa introduced 1.,=: Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
t 1 i I t t'; No.
1ftt, l ON t' i fV MANA(;ER TI DIRECT
'f111; 1'oL 1 Cl; UEl'AR-1'1i;N1 ADMINISTRATION TC DISCUSS
W1• li rift '1i'?'T1.t.•11„� ,.�t. !'lily ;;r)1?THEAST FLORIDA
t,lz1111�1l: tit: ltlriti;hl, .lUSCiCE THE MATTER OF THE
COUR'i' ORDER• CONCERN 1 NC; AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
':'1 Ci;:i•;;'"1 `..: ?'i. _ " )1.; "..,i DFi .RTMENT RECRUITING
•
Upon beingr, si'coii_t'C':1 i`L Cor;,:!t1istt t.t_r , ;tiUlt;;u , the
and adopted by the i i lowi;';t; vote:
AYES: Cr,utni:-.,it>n r
t;t:,l:n i . 1, ne t
t-'omtr,i,�. is ler
NOES: None.
Mrtn„1t, Rct.t.io
! R• , , 'i hecedore Gibson
Vit-:t ;tct r .1.1,.1'Itrtn„t,r.
M iV I'er rt
motion
was passed
Mr. Plummer: l ;is answers. I would like to hear from
Ross, Garfield. 1:' ;,rn :ii: :r ,t new Di — tor in they school. The question
was, Nen I t '1, 1: :lid there Were ceraai_n things in there
that you were not: l.,ti'4 '� t t; ;1'ti ! S.'+.'t1 ?1 Lo outline some of theni. We told
you that we wanted it t yt r. ct,A 1:;t or we would pull out, now what were
those areas, are. : icd thAt tnele Arc directions being changed, they are
trade, I. ,just v:ant to wet w or,. who proffered it before.
Lt. Garfield : A
in. One was that
cuts out a lot
the teaching out l
proper material------
:;i •1 tltath,R Sve made substantial progress
,is ii- t tr,t : u1 that's been reduced to 17 weeks which
iac flash 1 aao a 4;uh—t:onur.ittee has met to standardize
itrr.. ity, it tier .Ins' reason an instructor don't show up, the
r11ao it helps any domin.inceof any department
from putting ail tIt„r in! Iue!ice an,' of doing certain things tato it. The
standardize tedch1nh, outline ;ays von will teach this subject this way —that 1s a
big improvement. r':h� tt , 111i1 ye Ir11 t todlcins with our recruits as far as identity
with the City of Mimi t l,:it w '. re o lved by the institute allowing us to have one
of our patches ,t 1ony ,d, i t f, their patch. From what I can set we are moving in a good
direction and ;r lest t prt ;ren,; has been made.
Mr. Plummer: At till, i,nt there iri.!as that you see that have not given the
needed attention.
Lt. Garfield: N, I hJv hoen on anothc r :assignment and I haven't been involved with
any of it, out tram were I x; t t: from the outside now, propess has been made.
Mr. Plummer: John, you are still there, right?
Mr. Ross: 1 would like t-„ 0, 10 what Neal has Said. 1 believe we are making some
good prog>ss there, we iae aot all the r 1v, he mentioned standardizing the outline,
that has not been ;it'ccoiipisiu`ti ties hot wt' are working On it.
Mr. Plummer: That's ,, i i I ,.-.tt:t to hear.
Mr. Ross: This learning lab that has boon instituted out at the Junior College 1.
think it's going to do a lot to help our problem out as far as the minority recruitment
and at this point I am ' ery satisfied in the new program which I thought wasthecause
of most of the pr rhlems,tfit' fact that there was a lot of fat in the old program, they
fact that there was :much loose time and the county domination and this point: we are
getting that fat out aad 1 think .t good atandardizol program whore we can look into and
monitor much better now if we have the standardizaaoutlines where before we were really
unable to monitor a tot, because there is a lot of no shows, instructors not showing
1B
APR 10197a
REQUEST CITY A1TORNtLY
TO FURNISH LEGAL
53, GUIDANCC FOR FUTURE
POLL.CY
Rev. Gibson:
me as to the
1 would
best way t go about.
up and there is no w.:. ;' ye ,:uol ei to 1 1 ren 1 1 v, what was going on.
Mt. Plummer: C.,,tn you , dotes" the problem of why a new Director was hired T don't
mean to put you on tlir spot, do you wantGarland to answer it ? 1_ don't are who
answers it..
Mr. Ross: 1 don't krr .e: it he ha-, anymore insight into it than I do,but after
the last hearings that .-011 All r:onducte';i it happened. Now, he works for the
college and the inside 1: 1 rotation on that 1 don't have. You can drat, your own
conclusions. The proximity is the hearings, he hasn't royally been fir_,d, hers
under contract. 1{c, is looking for .irleether job.
Mayor Ferre: Welt, who i.he ite-:Id then, Is there a new head?
at this
Poiht
Mr. Ross: No, the-: thre.y,h-feet the country to get a new director,
right now, --
Mayor i'erre: I hope � ._��� ,try ;ere! berlleinu•, theme to look for somebody. You get the
point of what 1 ft .-_+_ 1 n :, 1, s' t yoh Chief . 1 mean if ,you knows somebody who is
available who .,(,ele: ;;, tt.!;i.. to the i i . of Miami and the way we approach these
problems, ''the „If_ that's hits first , hit.., twice", that's a literal translation, but
the point iu, if: he it our guy even thultgli i am sure lie would be an objective person,
but we can be ir'>trtu--mi e't ilndini; hiss, i think --
Chief Watkins: i. w e;., i. d i k_ee to ado: the t ray. r'eh i e comment. 1 was asked to set on the
selection committee Or t.h per,,on :'rue k i 1 i be the director so I think they dohave ra
concern for the 1 t y' q need, , 1 u l d i i ke t e, Add that to i t . t don't know the rent
reason to art t;& r e te,mt'< it n' Plummer ! wit.: he is not geeing to be there, I have some
conversation Ohich 1 wot.dn't want to violate and f don't think the Commission would
want to put me en The t_, eee, it, bait evidently they didn't sec fit to re new his
contract and 1 err, inl no 1• e t ion o ,he_ettl;atu.
Mr. Plummier: ': 'i..it, e ;!tit:: . `.and, let me i. ,:i:-di and 1 will quit as I promised.
At the ; ,_> e,;1 i .t_, _:ie it;irt e t ., i hopt without question if you feel there
is areas thiF Ce>! if ;:" 'u 'AU bf: hC_i'tui For God: tikes let us know,becallst;' I think
you get the f,eese of this ' . riissien. We are not here to point fingers, I think we
are here to 1.ry `o hcip. w,:'het' got to produce, you got to produce and
we have got to Hlid to help you produce, so I hope that sticks.
Mayor Ferre: L' t ; ;, t , Mr, i !. ; a, e• _• Had the question of torts and all that and
the teaching e. leer; Improved?
Mr. Lloyd: The in-sei °.
Police Department.
training e have been greatly improved at our own
Mayor Terre: ! nm 11,,t nskirst you th.rt ';ue:-;t inu, I am asking you in reference to the
academy.
Mr. Lloyd: Then, ! t'. know.
Mr. Plummer: 'e:..; 1 1 , ir; oe' t v.'et find teen?
Mayor Ferre: i e l ! , that's not his responsibility, but I am just asking him and
perhaps he might know, maybe the Chief is really the one I should have asked.
Chief Watkins: The tatt training w:is part of the curriculum and 1 understand is
continuing and wi 1 1 .ent inuee to be part of the curriculum and also in service train-
ing of the department w:a:, given Ow Address the same concern.
Mayor Ferro: l:; t.h 'rt• .=r:•; ot l•er c:e1e ;:t inn r,f the Chief or the Asst. Chief , Major,
Captain, Tutor. itttertirilit:', 5 .`tergea t:s, et;:..? Are there any questions from the
Commission? Mr. Andrews, there :anything else you want to add? If not, thank
you for your patience and 1 am sorry we took so long to get to you this evening.
APR I01975
RACIAL AL REPRESENTATION nN LABOR FORCE
CONTRACTORS PERFOIRMING 9nRK on CITY
CONTRACTS
Owlet -ore lil:a• to urge this Commission and if you would direct
it and I want to do it in a formal way, That we
APR 10 1975
askthe legal deparmoht :,a tuicle u, aF,siat us, direct us and develop a policy,
that we are to use in the ! ,tt ur-e I t t t i n;; of contracts and bids on public jobs
pertaining to this Htv. t .1!1 .,ra.7.t'ti and aghast that at this day and hour that
all of the problem we ha e that. are clearly seen that we haven t t addre tsed our" -
selves to this issue before now.
Mayor Ferre: LotNI, -:-Tani,,r+ t h.; t a l i t t l o bit if I may. I have been talking off
and on this pas' week t itit :hc i the head of the Labor Union and I pleaded
with him not to t,1k.' .:n ,t c ixe ,a, t i 'n ,. i,ec:;iuse 1 t:old him that IL would he a
secondary boycott ar.c! "1 +:i trace u to go .and get an injuction and then that
pitch the City of .'Ii :r'i .it;r.tt;:-,h tb+.' i.,;hrr'niort :and 1 don't want to do that, we
canit win no matter la,:. ,,., :11 HnctloI . we get., we are not going to win that one.
Now, he had a
work anyway and
a capital "'i'. 1
the general. area ;i1-,d
that particular
end up with sigh:. out
sit down with you ;tta. '•:1.'
we could go :_about
sir. In the a.oxt if'c. ,.
there, you know i t ' .
don't blame them, th, A!,
whole line of people ready to go out and picket., he said they got no
t 1 1 i us; S: 1"t r 1100 mete out on that job, now that spells trouble with
,l:-a,' ; ,:th : tt : about this, but Father is worried about
will.....(e1.1 you tonight t am more worried about
i�. and two or 300 rnen that are going to
etahrlale of days. 1 told hitn that L would
:anything we could and see how Legally
1 Mean we got a real part in it.Yes
have 301) angry men out of work with signs out
i-<; to happen, they are going to start throwing stones and 1
:ttt of work, these :are people that have families.
Mr. Reboso: 1)•
him? The guy t hn'
Mayor Ferre:
respect for you :a d
week, but if ; ,t-,
Mr. PIummt3r:
Mayor i.rr,
contractor has
the L.ab>or Uni,.•
worked ter
Mr. Plummer:
going to
that we are
don't sec, i t: oily
ta.
4 11-
f
i) und
i It t.ho next
;end do
t a problem and
you will
he hr
'.1
't dome anything since Father went to see
two <iray:, ago and he said, I'll tell you out of
+ lwaya been :a good friend , I am not going to do it this
t
,:>n.3tniun .fob :and it's very simple. The Latin
t n.•:; people working and as you well know, l:. t3. and
tit: are i:; i..}n, so these are men, many of them haven't
anttry
ra i .' you my comment on it. You know, you are either
Commission level that is going to recognize the fact
1.ninn jobs or we are not going to have union jobs. 1
Mayor Ferre: i. wi l i tell -.:,u what the hroblem is, it's the law. The law of the State
of Florida says :e„1 caa' t hat.
Mr. Plummer:
'. hat , what t t'nn we do?
Mayor Ferre: I '' r't k r v:ia.at we Cntt cl,+, that's why we are bringing out the problem
because I want ; t. :i'eut it before it hits us or we are going to have to call
a special Conuni - i
Mr. Plummer: 'c;ei i ,
accomplish?
Mayor Ferry: 'hat',
Rev. 6ibso l: Mr.
any time ' you want
Police Department
we ai t.:rruni:.sian Meeting next week what are we going to
1: ;t wo to talk .thnut right now.
1:1y,r, le' me make In ,tbversation. The federal government, let's say,
to `:r.i•t1:i:,.at iia-', ."1,1rt you :-an he. That's what disturbed me about that
thou , i'•!'; good salaries for men not to he imaginative Man.
1 am not going 1 -;it ol, here and huv t hat , 1 Am saying that the federal government
today, doesn't say you 1a:1t't.' le have a union or non -union. The federal government says
I want a percentage of tl. a-.o people that :.are employed Black, a certain percentage White.
If they can .in tit.at, we could grey s.t,:nothing like that about these
let.
Mr. PLuuunto : Father h, r !'..o ,.f.,t al'', resolve the union problem.
Rev. Gibson: J. t',a ih;t,,io what is known .as open shop in this state, so you can't
deal with that.
Mr. Reboso: That ;., t ;, ,irot L',u, hc,+:1u50 the reason that the union is stepping
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in because it's not the ris,,ht proportion. If we had --
Rev. Gibson: That's , right.
Mr. Plummer: Come on, let's be truthful, there is n lot of Black labor taut
there that don't bolorn; to the anion.
Rev. Gibson: 1.L. , .',e mi s e•d m. point . l .am not arguing for union labor or over
against non-t],ni t'n ' a'l''" .i am -a t'c. it i tt j', ;i i ut_ he'd i es . You know, 1 work for the
Federal Government and that samc Newark. New Jersey City you talked .about they paid
me years ago $75.90 Jay to rt•.i:-i-::r thew what to do and then when Newark burned
they sent a man all the rer.1 ' ;i 1nt'! t'n down here to ask me, says Father
Gibson, could you have told us 1 ,ail you evidently didn't read the report i gave
you, I said und you paid good mo iov for it. They flew me up there all week and
flew me back, v 1 i !`, lti:ol;i.. atool v;'t alter I wrote :ill of that, they
didn't pea;: tn<• no riiiltl t'it:tr why 1 was able to tell that contractor
"don't tel me :tu'i t h i 'tit there", I 'runt t l' count bodies and
if we develop a po1i t ',• rt ,''r + 'hinsi•s; will happen. W1u'n men start bidding,
now I. didn't want to hr i tt, t it i r hot! 1 think out of fairness, I am sure that when
2 or 3 other e'noun( t'-t s bidttinc, on that ieh and the reason that contractor got that
job was he was co'antin:', on eon-uni''n labor, who would work for less. Now, the
guy told me, 1 am not trying to plead his :ause. The other thing is, if he knew what
our policy is at the t it's'.' he was bidding, he would have to bid parity with all the
other people. 1 rele tit'nei.i if itt' was bideini; on parity.
Mayor F•erre: The problem ' .t:i . that we have a law in the State of Florida and the
law says that this i ''.:t ,;hot' ,t;tte and the problem is when you have that law in
a state then you : ani t in • 'tit.; -act trom the City of Miami that all of the good
jobs will be hit .ai f t ho union 'tt IcI ; because that's against the state law. Now, how
are we going what -- what way can be assure that we don't
end up with theek ih, ;tr :''t 7 t':' :; . 1 don't know, you better put on your thinking
cap.
Rev. (; i hsott:
Federal t;overumeut
Lloyd knows what i am talking about, the
;ei tli v don't address the issue of union or non -union.
Mayor Ft't r� , Do he' :tt' t .: t
Mr. Lloyd: •
joist.
`y' r:, c:'. tit;tt here and I think we can gogofar as to do this
that you set t-itcti'tt i ti:,'tt we pick the lowest (listen carefully) responsible
bidder, now one of i t r i er ? n which we could put as in the contract is that the
clause would he that A r ;,t hesitate to use the word) quota, but racial represent-
ation will he tt'nsidt'rtd it; the dcterminnt.ion of w:tether the person is a responsible
bidder, because we d nit h.tvc to 4',t� to the lowest bidder, that's what we are talking
about.
Mr. Plummer: 'lee,
wide open.
Rev. Gibson: .i - L. 1,e
out there
t.t t i:h tell ;. something, when you do that you lay yourself
tee well get: wide open because if you get all of those men
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, Father- you didn't hear the last words, "wide open"for
scandal, you don't take' thr lowest bidder.
Rev. Gibson: .i.1.. t tt i.,'ltt :to:,', I never forget what hnipened with Pancnast bids,
I will always remember tlrit , do you renumber that?
Mayor Ferrer: 1t won't happen that way, let me tell you why it won't happen, because
if you put that clause t:', those guys are ;thing to go out of their way to make sure
and everybody p,olug to w lnt that lob a'td in this day and age, the other day, J.L.
I get these bids, every sin,',it' day across my desk, from Jacksonville to Miami, every
major bid, 1 see - i pet -- on my desk, let me tell you $500,000.00 jobs. (17)
bidders uutu'air,.l of, littft dink7 jtth like that you get 2 or 3 people, these contractors
are so hungry forwork, t h t t i f y _tu toll t ire ;e ton trio tc'rr; now
that they have to this
and they will walk 20 miles - you know they are going to do I t . Father Gibson makes
a motion. is there at further- discussion on that notion? 1t not call the roll,
a
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
EMOTION NO. 75-352
A MOTION REQUESTING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO FUNISH
GUIDANCE l') 'l'HE CITY COMMISSION IN DEVELOPING A
POLICY FoR 1111: 1.1'TURE W1TI1 REGARD TO RACIAL REPRES-
ENTATION ON 'I'HL LABOR FORCE OF CONTRACTORS PERFORM-
ING WORK nN CITY CONTRACT'S.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner "laue i o iCeboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
V ice Mayor .1.1..i'Iummer
Mayor Maurice A. Eerre
NOES: None.
64, RATIFY ACTION CF DADJE COUNTY "1ASTE' PLAN
CITY MANAGER
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Mr. Andrews: 1 have one more matter Mr. Mayor and Members of ihe. Commission.
sent you a memorandum and a letter "'.C'i'ornp<niving the memorandum that I sent to
Metropolitan [fade Fount}' to 1-terence to the Comprehensive Development Master Plan
in the county. The Cowin, in their :action chose to approve the mastcr an for
the county in principle and not in detail . Now, they had orii;inally,,#nt� porcfinanc es
and under consideration :t great number of details that they were going to adopt.
Now those details really ceu ern us dS 1. described in the memorandum with Mr. Actons
Assistance in a way that would have a very adverse long time impact upon the city.
They just can't adopt a master plan with that kind of detail in it without the com-
plete participation of the city and the City Commission in the actions that
we would take in behalf of the city • Now we will keep the Commission very touch
informed and ask you to take certain actions as they are needed as time moves along.
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell you how strongly I feel about this Paul, so we don't have
any eatlivocath,? . i am willing; as one voice out of 5 here; if we have got to go to
court to sue Metropolitan Dade County, that's how far I am willing to go to stop them
from super imposing some of these details. That memorandum, I don't know who wrote
it, whether it was George - it was a very well written and o very intelligent report
and I commend you for it. I commend Acton. I think it made a lot of sense, I hope
you have all read it. and if you haven't I plead with you, if it's nothing else you
can read from the Manager's Office this month read that memorandum please. it's a
very important memorandum and eventually we have got to really get on with the subject
of sitting down head to head :end face to face with Metro about the relationship between
these two governments, especially on taxation. Now, they have n commitment to us and
here is what I am worried about, we are now under April, pretty soon it's May. The next
thing you know we are all on vacation, then comes August, than comes the Budget time,
then comes Election and unless we sit with these people in the next 8 weeks, i figure
it this way you are not. going to see them this year. So, Mr. Andrews you got 8 weeks
maybe less, to do this and I think we've really got to get on with this meeting if
they've agreed to sit down with us.
Mr. Andrews: Now, what 1 would like the Commission to do today is to: adopt a motion
which Mr. Lloyd then can convert into a resolution for the 22nd, but I would like the
motion now, that you approve the position or this is they position that the city is
taking at this time.
Mayor Terre; Let me tell you wlrt the Manager In effect is saying and 1'am going to
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be a little bit more openly about it Paul. I don't think it's anything wrong,
but the fact is and I want to say that. I approve it before anything else that
I. personally discussed with the Manager and I certainly approve of what he did
because he had to do it. but `chat in effect the Manager did by sending that
letter to Metro is he established policy for the City of Miami and the City of
Miami Commission had not deliberated on it.
Mr. Andrews: On the fact that the -- ( 1 felt very strongly about this that you
would want me to take this action and time pressed in on me to get this to Metro)
that they would not through the Master Planning Process usurp the authority that
you the Commission have in planning for this '.pity and the detail that's needed.
I will give you an example, that this Commission could not adopt any capital
improvement program for any specific project in the City of Miami without first
clearing it with Metro to make sure that it was compatible with the Master Plan.
Now, that meant that any park that you wanted to go into and do ,anything in any
park you couldn't do it until you got approvrl. from Metro, well that's something
that should be reserved for the city. if you have in your capital improvement
program that this Commission adopts, something that is regional in scope that
affects more potentially than just the City. of Miami, then that's understandable
It should be related to the Master flan, but not to she detail that everything
that you do here .in capital improvements have to be related and this was redundant
with other areas of zoning and planning and so forth, and we documented in the
memorandum.
Mayor Ferre: What the Manager wants is for us to adopt the policy
Mr. Plummer: I move the motion that we ratify the actions taken by the Manager
as it relates to comprehensive plan.
Mayor Ferre: There i.s a 1m0
L(.n and a second. Further discussion call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 75-35i
A MOI'1ON RATIFYING [HE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER
WITH RESPECT TO THE METROPOLITAN 1)ADE COUNTY
MASTER PLAN.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Hobos°
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) 'Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J.L.Plurnmer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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65. BRIEF DISCUSSION LITTLE LEAGUE LIGHTS IN SHE►1ANIOAH PARK
Mr. Plummer: I made somewhat of a commitment to the Little League that exists
at Shenandoah Park for lights and I sent it to the Managet and he has agreed he.
will come back with a memorandum on the 22nd of April spelling out how he can go
about accompanying this thing for Shenandoah Park, the lights, Paul. Ok? That's
all.
66.
ENDORSE CONFERENCE ON B I -LI NGUALI SM SOCIETY
B J SCAYNE CQLLLGE, QPI\ LQCK1\ - JUNE 7, 1975
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Mr. Reboso: I have a resolution Mr. Mayor, endorsing the conference on Bilingual-
ism to be held on June 7, 1975 at Biscayne College. Opa Locka, Florida. I have the
letter of request here.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second. Further discussion, call the toll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-354
A RESOLUTION ENDORSING THE CONFERENCE ON Bt-LINGUAL1SM
SOCIETY TO BE HELD ON JUNE 7, 1975 AT BISCAYNE COLLEGE,
OPA LOC,A;F, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk. )
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner. (Rev.) 'Theodore Gipson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro. NOES: None.
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67i PREPARED
RESOLUTION
R 'JEST METRO 10 DEFER ACTIO91141N PROPOSED ORDINANCE
RECERTIFICATION OF BUILDINGS OVER 40 YEAS OLD
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-355
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY DEFER ACTION ON THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING THE SOUTH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE,
PROVIDING FOR THE RECERTIFICATION OF BUILDINGS OVER 40 YEARS
OLD, UNTIL THE COUNTY HAS SPECIFIC INSPECTION STANDARDS TO
BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AND HAS FURNISHED A COPY OF SAID
STANDARDS TO THE CITY OF MIAMT FOR ITS CONSIDERATION AND REC-
OMMENDATIONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner P i uglnter, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
68, PREPARED
RESOLUTION
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URGE STATE LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS OF
INCREASIf1G DEMANDS ON STATE HUMAN SERVICE $'YSTEM
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-356
A RESOLUTION URGING THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND ITS APPROPRIATION
COMMITTEES TO ADDRESS THEMSELVES TO THE INCREASING DEMANDS ON
THE INCREASING DEMANDS CNy THE STATE HUMAN SERVICE SYSTEM AND
SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE ALIX CATTONS FOR HUMAN SERVICE NEEDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson,
passed and adopted by the following vote -
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor. J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
69,
the resolution was
NOES: None.
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COUNTY COMMISSION TO SIMULTANEOUSLY ADOPT COUNTY
APPROVED IPALTH
REQUESTING PLAN-REQ,r1NOIFURTHERIBIKEKELANS PATHWSIGNS EUNTILNSAFE CSSTANDARD
ETC,
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon,
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-357
A RESOLUT.EON REQUESTING THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO SIMULTANEOUSLY
ADOPT COUNTY -APPROVED MUNICIPAL BIKE PLANS WITH THE ADOPTION OF
THE RECOMMENDED COUNTY PLAN; FURTHER REQUESTING MINIMUM COUNTY
PLANNING ASSISTANCE TO LINK UP WITH THE AFORESAID ADOPTED MUNICI-
PAL BIKE PLANS; FURTHER REQUESTING THE COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPART-
MENT TO CEASE AND DESIST FROid PLACING ADDITIONAL BIKE ROUTE SIGNS
UNTIL SAFE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AND FURTHER, REQLIEST-
ING THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF DECADE FOR
PROGRESS BIKE ISSUE MONIES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF CITY ROUTES
THAT LINK UP WITH COUNTY ROUTES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner. (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
Mr. Plummer: Maurice, that ju:-t might be the area where this City can take a
stand on this, not just the bikes hut: the >300,000,000 bond issue. Ok? That
we could really put the stymie into them until they can produce evidence that
we in fact are getting back somewhere near 27`. of that bond issue which at
this present time they can't show n<.,thing for.
Mayor Ferre: How can we do that legally?
Mr. Plummer: File a .Lawsuit!
Mayor Ferre: Let's go see them first.
Mr. Plummer.: Ok. I'm just saying that might just be the area, you know be-
cause this is their showcase.
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70, FREE USE OF MARINE STADIUM SUBJ,TO PAYT,OF COSTS
EROTTON PAN AMERICAN GAMES RWING REGATTA JUL 18,19,20
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-358
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF THE MARINE STADIUM FOR THE
PAN AMERICAN GAMES ROWING REGATTA TO BE HELD ON Jt1LY 18, 19
AND :'.o , 1975; Si1HJECT TO ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EF r.NT PERSONNEL,
INSURANCE AND OTHER t)1kk:CT COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY.
(Here follow:, body of res<'lutir n, emitted here and on f i 10
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboe,o, the resolution was
passed and adopted by they following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
APR 10 1975
GRANT FREE USE OF MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM
71, PREPARED
RESOLUTION LA SALLE HIGH SCHOOL FOR 5 DAYS
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-359
A RESOLUTION GRANTING FREE USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM
PO LA SALLE }IIGH SCHOOL FOR FIVE (5) DAYS, THE DATES TO 13E
DETERMINED BY THE CITY MANAGER; SUBJECT TO ADVANCE PAYMENT
FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE
BY 'l'IIE CITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
APR i
PREPARED
72, RESOLUTION
g_111XrpniTyTOgewORA GUTTED ON
S,I'I,12 TO 57 I\VES1
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 75-360
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO INSTALL
CURB AND GUTTER ON THE CENTER PARKWAY OF r(RAL WAY BETWEEN
S.W. 12T11 AND 3 7TH AVENUES.
(II'.'re fol lows body of resolution, omitted here
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Muni on file
Upon being seconded by Commi s i-inner Gibson, the t e!-;o l p i t i on wat:
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Cornmissi.on17t (I O/. ) Theodr_,1:e Gib ;otf
Vice Mayor J. L. Pluauner, sir
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
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73, DESIGNATE BISCAYNE BLVD,ENTRANCE TO PORT OF MIAMI AS
TRQMAS C, WAS 1UTH. PLAZA
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION No. 75_ 3-11
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE P 1SGAYNE BOULEVARI) ENTRANCE AREA
TO THE PORT OF MIA.MI AF THOMAS C. WA:;MOTH PLAZA IN MEMORY OF
A MOST RESPECTED CITIZEN AND PROMINENT CIVIC LEADER OF THIS
COMMUNITY.
(Here follows body of r('!l i u t ion, ali t i J i re ;ir d nit tile
in the Office of the City clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Gomm]. 'nionet" l;,.n-don, t ' ! :'E; ilit ion '40`;
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Comp -if ssloner (Rev. ) Thoodorr; ;ibson
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.
THERE BEING NO FORTH R BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION, THE
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:40 P,M,
ATTEST: H.D. SOU1HERN
CITY CLERK
R<un(z G. Ongtc.
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
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APR ;l. 0 1975
CiY OF IWAMI
ITEM NO
DOCUMENT
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
1 COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT
2 INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE A
POSITION PAPER ON THE FEASIBILITY, FINANCIAL
AND OTHERWISE OF ADDING TO PRESENT FIRE FIGHT
ING EQUIPMENT.
3 GRANTING APPROVAL OF SITE AND DEVELOPMENT
PLAN OF PROPOSED PARK AT APPROXIMATELY 2800
S.W. 22ND AVENUE S4' OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOTS
8 AND 9, W.H. SNIPES SUB.
4 GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSTON OF THE CONDI-
TIONAL USE GRANTED ON THE PROPERTY AT 1901
BRICKELL AVENUE
5 GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE
GRANTED ON THE PROPERTY AT 2000 S.W. 17TH
AVENUE
6 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF INTER
COUNTY CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION FOR THE CON-
STRUCTION OF SAN MARCO SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE
MENT SR-5316 C
7 ACCEPTING THE QUIT CLAIM DEEDS EXECUTED BY
FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT COMPANY, FLORIDA GAS
COMPANY AND MIAMI-DADE WATER & SEWER AUTHORI-
TY, FOR THE RELEASE OF A PORTION OF UTILITY
EASEMENTS LYING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF
TRACT "A", MOORE PARK
8 ACCEPTING THE HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY DEED EXE-
CUTED BY TRA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ON DE-
CEMBER 9. 1974, CONVEYING FOR HIGHWAY PUR-
POSES 16,358 SQUARE FEET OF UNPLATTED LAND.
9 AUTHORIZING THE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL
ASSISTANCE FOR RE -CONSTRUCTION OF FLAGAMI
AND KINLOCH PARKS FOR HANDICAPPED PROGRAMS.
10 RATIFYING THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY MANA-
GER IN INCREASING THE SCOPE OF THE PANELFAB
INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION CONTRACT FROM
$159,802,00 TO S164.245.00
11 RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER
ACCEPTING THE BID OF LAMAR UNIFORM COMPANY
FOR FURNISHING UNIFORMS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE
AIDES OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S THRESHOLD
UNIT AT A TOTAL COST OF $5,347,16.
12 APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF EM-
PLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF SEVENTY-ONE FOR
HARRY PEARLMAN, WATCHMAN, PURLIC FACILITIES
[DEPARTMENT, EFFECTIVE ON HIS BIRTH DATE,
MAY 28, 1975
MEETING DATE:
COMMISSION
ACTION_
R-73-310
R-75-311
R-75-312
R-75-313
R-75-314
R-75-315
R-75-316
-75-317
R-75-318
R-75-319
R-75=320
RETR I EVAL
CODE_ NO.
0065
73-310
75-311
75-312
75-313
75-314
75-315
75-316
75-317
75-318
75-319
75=320
DOCUMENTINDEX
CONTINUED
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
GRANTING FREE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM
TO THE NATURALIZATION COMMITTEE FOR NATURALI-
ZATION PROCEEDINGS TO BE HELD ON THE FOLLOW-
ING DATES: APRIL 2, 1975 AND AUGUST 6, 1975
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT TO GESU
CHURCH AND SCHOOL FOR AMUSEMENT RIDES ON THE
GROUNDS OF THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL LOCATED AT
118 N.E. 2ND STREET
APPOINTING MRS. MARTY GRAFTON TO THE MIAMI
MEMORIAL COMMITTEE TO SERVE AN INDEFINITE
TERM OF OFFICE
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO
LEROY ALVIN DORSETT, BY HIS MOTHER AND NEXT
FRIEND, LITTLE MAE DORSETT, WITHOUT THE ADMIS
SION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $2500.00 IN
FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF THEIR CLAIM
AGAINST THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY
TO EDGAR DIXON, L.A. BUSH AND FELTON MADISON,
AND R. JEROME SANFORD, THEIR ATTORNEYS, THE
SUM OF $1,000 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SATISFAC-
TION OF THE FINAL JUDGEMENT OF $24,00 AGAINST
THE CITY OF MIAMI IN COUNTY COURT CASE NO.
74-1834-CC-05
DENYING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFEND ANY SUIT BROUGHT FOR
THE RECOVERY OF DEAMAGES ARISING OUT OF SAID
CLAIMS
ACCEPTING THE BID QUOTATION OF MELROSE NUR-
SERY & SOILS COMPANY FOR MALAY COCONUT PALM
TREES. AND 20' ROAYL PALM TREES.
ACCEPTING THE BIDS RECEIVED FROM HECTOR
TURF AND GARDEN SUPPLY CO. AT A COST OF
$2,995.00 AND DE BRA TURF AND GARDEN SUPPLY
AT A COST OF $9,349.00 FOR FURNISHING SEVEN
(7) ROTARY MOWERS
ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIAMI FIRE EQUIPMENT
COMPANY FOR FURNISHING BREATHING APPARATUS
PARTS FOR THE RESCUE DIVISION OF THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
ACCEPTING BIDS FOR FURNISHING PARTS FOR 475
PARK BENCHES AND 220 PICNIC TABLES FOR THE
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, TOTALLING
$$51,118.14.
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM REDLAND
CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF
$66,950,00 FOR THE BICENTENNIAL PARK PHASE
IT-1975 (PROJECT #1-SUBGRAAING)
ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FROM ALLSTATE
INSURANCE COMPANY FOR A THREE YEAR INSURANCE
POLICY COVERING FIRE, WINDSTORM AND VANDA-
LISM AND MALICIOUS MISCHIEF ON CITY BUILD
INGS,
A'ION
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R-75-302
R-75-323
R-75-324
R-75-325
R-75-326
R-75-327
R-75-328
R-75-329
R-75-330
R-75-331
R-75-332
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DOCUMENT IDENTIPICATION
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AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO ACCEPT CHECK OF $3500.00 FROM
TRAVELERS INSURANCE COMPANY IN SETTLEMENT
OF VALUE OF ATTORNEYS' FEES FOR SERVICES
RENDERED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI LAW DEPARTMENT
AMENDING MOTION NO. 74-663 AND RESOLUTION
NO. 74-1035
ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED VERSAILLES PLAZA
A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY DEFER ACTION ON
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING THE SOUTH
FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, PROVIDING FOR THE
SOUTH FLORIDA RECERTIFICATION OF BUILDING
OVER 40 YEARS OLD.
URGING THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND ITS APPRO-
PRIATION COMMITTEES TO ADDRESS THEMSELVES
TO THE INCREASING DEMANDS ON THE STATE HUMAN
SERVICE SYSTEM.
REQUESTING THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO SIMULTA-
NEOUSLY ADOPT COUNTY -APPROVED MUNICIPAL BIKE
PLANS WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE RECOMMENDED
COUNTY PLAN.
GRANTING FREE USE OF THE MARINE STADIUM
FOR THE PAN AMERICAN GAMES ROWING REGATTA TO
BE HELD ON JULY 18, 19, AND 20 1975.
GRANTING FREE USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL
STADIUM TO LA SALLE HIGH SCHOOL FOR FIVE
(5) DAYS.
REQUESTING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO IN-
STALL CURB AND GUTTER ON THE CENTER PARKWAY
OF CORAL WAY BETWEEN S.W. 12TH AND 37TH
AVENUES.
DESIGNATING THE BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE
AREA TO THE PORT OF MIAMI AS THOMAS C.
WASMUTH PLAZA IN MEMORY OF A MOST RESPECTED
CITIZEN.
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R-75-361
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