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'CITY OF MIAM
SPECIAL
CO ISSION
TES
OF MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1976_
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
RALPH G. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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Social Service Funding: Motion to increase funding to
$1,300,000.
Reinstatement of holiday waste collection by the
Sanitation Department.
Contingency Fund for the City - Fiscal year 1976-1977
he no less than $254,000.
Approve Expenditures for rent and phone expense for
moving Law Department to Olympia Building.
Brief discussion and deferment of consideration of
Metro Arts Council.
Motion of Intent to fund State Department Assistance
Program.
Motion to fund Sister City Program not to exceed
$25,000.
Discussion of proposed renovation to City Commission
Chambers.
Motion to Fund: A) International Trade Relations
B) Office of Information; as projects
of the Department of Publicity and
Toui ism.
Motion to fund Urban Design Program - Fiscal year
1976-1977. (Planning Department)
Discussion and deferral of consideration of "911"
(Emergency Telephone System).
Deferral of consideration of School Officer Resource
Program.
Miscellaneous Items: Discussion.
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ADJOURNMENT
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M-76-857 1-5
M-76-858 6
M-76-859 7-8
M-76-860 9-10
DEFERRED 10-11
M-76-861 11-13
M-76-862 13-14
DISCUSSION 14-15
M-76-863 15-17
M-76-864 17
DEFERRED f 18
DEFERRED 18-19
DISCUSSION 19-20
MINUTES OF SPECIAL, MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
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On the 30th day of September, 1976, the City Commission of Miami, Florida
met at its regular meeting place in said City in Special Session to consider
business of public import.
The meeting was called to order at 4:15 P.M. by Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
with the following members of the Commission present:
ALSO PRESENT:
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.)Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Pose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Joseph R. Grassie, City Manager
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Manager
George F. KAbx, City Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Theodore R. Gibson, who then
led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, Would you please?
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, two daysaao that you asked that we have this follow-up session.
A special meeting of. the City Commisson in order to consider some of the items
that have come out of the workshops and out of the public hearings that you've
had on the budget. The Budget Officer is distributing to you a list of all of
the major questions that you brought up or that came up from the public hearings.
There were some very small changes in the budget that came out the workshop. Those
are being incorporated, but these are the major money items. And if you would
like to review these and if we could get your direction on these outstanding
questions, I think that we would be in a position to discuss whether or not yoU
want to approve a budget in general terms for publication purposes today.
1, SOCIAL SERVICE FUNDING: MOTION TO INCREASE FUNDING TO $1,300,000.
Mr. Grassie: I think that the first question that needs to be brought to your
attention is the matter of funding Social Service Agencies.
Mrs. Gordon: I would like to recommend that, that number that you have here be
changed and he a figure not less than 10%.of our total Federal Revenue Sharing
which is $15,707 not less than.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENT)
Mrs. Gordon: Yes I'll move that.
Mayor Ferre: Alright., there's a motion on the floor. The motion is that the
area of Social Service Agency Funding not be any less than 10% of the total
expenditure of Federal Revenue Sharing which is, which would make it $1,570,000.00.
Mrs. Gordon: Yea, that's right.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, for clarification, then Rose, it is your intent that
Social Service money couple with that of Social Service money from Community
Development.... won l d equate Social Service Programs this year to approximately
a two -million dollar level. Is that correct?
Mrs. Gordon: The Federal Revenue Sharing Social Service Programs are for the most
part programs that are in place and with •:c rc•duc•t i.rn you woul,1 he cutting programs
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that have proved valuable and if they're not valuable.thsy are being 'eut by the
Administration. I would put confidence in the Administration that the programs that
are worth being funded will be funded.
Mr. Plummer: But what I'm trying to equate...
Mrs. Gordon: Whether or not additional Social Service Programs are being put in
the communities through Community Development are not the same as those programs
that we are funding through Federal Revenue Sharing J.L., so if it comes to a higher
amount because ofthenthatis fine, it to the benefit of the citizens. But I'm saying
that with a fifteen million, seven hundred and seven dollars of Federal Revenue Sharing
that the intent of Federal Revenue Sharing is to spend a percentage on Social Services
and that less than 10% would not be,in my opinion,a proper way to move.
Mr. Plummer: Also, I have to ask a question Mr. Grassie, that 15 million dollars
includes as I recall your statement of 8 million of one year money.
Mr. Grassie: That's correct. Approximate figure, yes.
Mr. Plummer: So next year, we would go back to approximately 8-million.
Mr. Grassie: 8.6 million,yes.
Mrs. Gordon: J.L. I would like to tell you that we did not fund the 10% last year
when we had less money we were funding almost the 20 some odd percent, same amount.
We had $5,noo million or something like that last year for disbursing and we still
funded the 1.5 million. We're not increasing the amount and the percentages are
variable. But in this year's budget it happens to work out to be a percentage of a
round ]0%. Next year if we get less,it might be a higher percentage but still he
aboo the same amount without increasing any services. That's not making any new
programs of any great..conseyunne. That's not allowing for inflation of the programs
that you already have. You know, it really is a very skin tight amount of money.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let's see if it gets a second. Mr. Manager, you recommended a
million 3.
Mrs. Gordon: No, he's not recommending as I understand... alright,... speak for your-
self. (Mayor Ferre: Alright)
Mr. Grassie: The figure of $1,300,000 is a staff attempt to reflect what they felt
was the City Commission's desired level of funding. That is a guess on our part. It
has been studied quite carefully by Mr. Parkins and his staff and they do have specific
purposes for $1,300,000. It has been our' estimation that the Sg00,000
originally .included in the budget was not sufficient and we have tried to estimate what
we felt you would want by way of a level. and the purpose of this hearing is to determine
whether we're write or whether we made a mistake.
Mr. Plummer: I'll back the Manager.
Mrs. Gordon: Pardon me, I didn't hear you J.L.
Mr. Plummer.: I'll back the Manager.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you saying Mr. Grassie, that you are saying to this Commission that
we should fund this to $1,300,000 only? Is that your recommendation?
Mr. Grassie: That is my recommendation unless this City Commission has some specific
dire lion otherwise, yes.
Mrs. Gordon: And, is your recommendation based on the comments that were made at the
last hearing that we had her' which was a couple of days ago/when this amount was
proffered by Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Grassie: 1 had the impression from that hearing.
Mrs. Gordon: That was your reason for your recommendation, correct?
Mr. Plummer: No, Ro:;e, T didn't Full that figure out of the sky. That was his
recommendation prior. I just accepted it.
Mr. Grassie: No. I did get the impression although, I just had to read people's
attitude. .I got the impression that., that figure was probably acceptable to the
City Conunission, hut. I had to guess.
Mr. Plummet: Alright., let's e if you can yet a second Rose.
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Mr. t'1ufte t Are ydu going to call for toocor,d?
Mayor Ferre: Yea, I've already called for a second. There was some discussion, so.
Rose Gordon makes a motion and now I will ask if there is a second to the notion.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I want to say very clearly that I will not cast out my vote in
favor of approving the budget unless it provides for the necessary Social Services
which this community is already involved in. So, it takes a 4/5 vote. So let all
four members here present know that my vote will be negative. Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Is that motion now declared void, since there is no second.
Mayor Ferre: Notyet, because I wanted to vote ...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion by Rose Gordon that we go up to $1,570,000.00, and
there's no second so far. (INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION).
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I'm not making the decision on where the Programming will go.
I'm perfectly willing to have confidence that Mr. Grassie's staff has made thorough
investigation.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, you got a second.
Mrs. Gordon: And that... ok. I'm speaking to the motion now. And, that in the
investigation that: his staff has made only those programs that are valid and are
beneficial to this community in the cost value approach will be funded. Am I
correct Mr. Grassie? That is your approach, you're doing this very systematically
and very thoroughly?
Mr. Grassie: We're certainly attempting too. Yes, Commissioner that's our intention.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I have confidence that you are doing that.
Mr. Plummer: With no input from any Commissioner or the Mayor.
Mr. Grassie: If that's your desire sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think that goes without saying, that if you are doing it.
Mrs. Gordon: Pe and his staff unless the request for input,..if you won't prevent any
input.
Mr. Grassie: No, of course not. No.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion. Call the roll please.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Fen e: I'm going to vote no at this time, but I want to state into the record
that I think as we get along further on this budget: that my position might change
depending on what other things happen during the budget process.
Mrs. Gordon: I would recommend Mr. Manager that this portion be tabled.
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Mt. tlumMet t Well. ! Would like td Maka a ftatiott.
Mrs. Gordon: We're not in a formal session...1 move to table.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE)
Mayor Ferre: A motion to table takes precedent and I'm not even going tb call a
second. She's asking for a table, that's a motion without discussion. The chair
rules that there's no second needed on that. Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: To table what?
Mayor Ferre: To table the item on Social Services.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mayor. Ferre: Call the roll to move to table.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?...on the motion to table.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mrs. Gordon: Later it will be brought up again...later, after other discussions
of other items. Well,..the Mayor made a statement.
Manor Ferre: Okay, call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso? Does he vote yes?
Mayor Ferre: He votes with Mrs. Gordon.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongi': Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: And Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferry: I vote no.
Thereupon the motion failed to pass.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time that we accept the recommendation of the
Manager relating to Social Services at the tune of $1,300,000. And, that the
Manager be i.mpowered ... Well, let get that through then I'll make a second motion.
Mayor Ferre: You know, this is all fine,but you recognize that this can all be changed.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I've never questioned....
Mayor Ferre: And, you heard my statement into the record. Alright, there's a motion
on the floor.. is there a second?
Rev. Gibson: Seconded.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Gibson. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-857
A MOTION OF INTENT TO INCREASE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY
FUNDING FROM $900,000 TO $1,300,000.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon.
ABSENT: None.
Mrs. Gordon: I'm going to vote 'no' and I'm going to say why. I believe that this
is a plot to delete a vital program from the City of Miami's present program. That
program is the After School Care Program, which involves about 500 children. It also
is an attempt to eliminate funding from the community school program, which is another
vital part of the After School Care Program. So, 1 therefore vote'no'.
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Mayc,i ? rre1 Cohsisi.&ht with my previous votes, i would vote 'yen' again reeervinq
the right at any time in the future to swing my vote in the other direction as this
budget develops.
Mr. Plummer: nk. I'd like to make another motion. That the Manager be impowered
through his staff that he is the distributor of these funds. In other words, what
I'm saying is that the Commission is not going to get involved. That through his
staff and through his evaluations they are going to delegate the funds as their
professionalism tells them they should be distributed,and I concur.
Mayor Ferre: You mean without discussion of the Commission?
Mr. Plummer: I think that should be the case.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there's a motion on the floor that the Commission not involve
itself in the political process of deciding whn gets and who doesn't get that it be
left strictly to professional guiduance and advice of ...
Mrs. Gordon: Question to the Manager,please. Your staff that's working on this
proposal, is your staff here in this room?
Mr. Grassie: Yes,they are Commissioner.
Mrs. Gordon: May T ask that you ask your staff to provide us with a list of those
programs that are being recommended under the million three?
Mr. Grassie: We will do that right now, if you wish.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I'm going to withdraw that motion. I'm going to withdraw
that motion.
Mayor. Ferre: I wish *You wouldn't.
Mr. Plummer: I did.
Mayor Ferre: That's not a bad motion. Gets us out of all this stuff which we really,
instead of spending ...
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. The motion was withdrawn, May I ask you to comply with my request?
Mr. Grassie: Certainly, of course, I'd be happy to.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: The reason I'm withdrawing the motion is...
Mr. Grassie: I think that most of you have seen the list already because I made a
point of having staff review it with each one of you and we have it here.
Mrs. Gordon: We were not given copies so we would like that.
Mr. Grassie: No, it was not a final until everyone had seen it.of course, but we'll
be happy to give you copies, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's move ahead.
Mr. Grassie: It should be right in front of 'you on your desk, I understand.
Mr. Plummer: Correct.
Mr. Grassie: While you're looking at that Mr. Mayor, just for clarification it has
been our understanding that this is a special session of the City Commission and it
is an official moo i.ng.
Mayor Ferre: Yes it is. Absolutely. That's exactly how it was called.
Mr. Gordon: Where is it Mr. Manager, I don't have it here.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, it's under this one. This is the face sheet, here. Rose, here's
the beginning sheet. It's a packet of papers.
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2.
REINSTATEMENT OF HOLIDAY WASTE COLLECTION BY THE
SAWITAI Ia4 DEPARTMENT,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I make a motion?
Mayor Ferre: Make a motion.
Mr. Plummer: I make the motion that number 2, the Sanitation Department for the
purposes of holiday collection be reinstated but I'm going to leave the negotiation
as to the cost since we had an acquiescent point from them that it could be reduced
from this 270. That it is the intent and the express policy of this Commission to
reinstated it and ,if it is possible,financially, but I want you to have the latitude
of negotiatinithis cost figure. I Offer that in the form of a motion.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there's a motion and a second. Further discussion. Call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-858
A MOTION OF INTENT THAT HOLIDAY WASTE COLLECTION
BY THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT I3E REINSTATED AND THAT
THE CITY MANAGER RE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE
COST FIGURES AND PRESENT THEM TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer., and Mr. Reboso.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon, and Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL. CALL:
Mrs. Gordon: This is to institute it at -- what was the other contingency factor?..
Mr. Plummer: Rose, based upon the fact the Sanitation Department themselves expressed
that the figure of 270 could he negotiated down,and we give the Manager the latitude of
negotiating down from that figure.
Mrs. Gordon: In other words, you are increasing the budget by $270,000, is that your
intent?
Mr. Plummer: No, it is not my intention. I think we had the express consent the
other day that they would even consider time and a half and I would like the Manager
to have the leeway of negotiating that with them. That we don't have to do it.
Mrs. rdon: But you are recommending an increase in the budget to a specific uncertain
amount.
Mr. Plummer.: That's correct.
Mrs. Gordon: Wouldn't it he better...
Mr. Plummer: It is the intention of this Commission.
Mr. GrassiF`: Not to exceed $270,000.00. It would be a figure not to exceed
$270,000.00
Mr. Plummer: Riyht.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't know that you should be increasing when you should be thinking
of cutting.
Mr. Plummer: Olr, Rose, I'm definitely thinking of cutting. If the Mayor is ready today
I'I1 give it to him today, or I'll wait until later.
Mrs. Gordon: I recognize the necessity for the additional collection, however, I do
not know how much money this is going to cost. And, since I do not know how much money
this is going to cost and since we are in the cutting process right now. My good friends
from the Sanitation Department know my feelings their needs, the community's needs, but
I do not think it is a sensible thing to do to increase our cost until we know where
we're going, so I must say I'm not going to vote with the motion.
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Mayor Perrot t think for now, I'm obviouoiy one, t'm going to votelno' bs t did on
the other one. And, 2 will reserve the tight to change my opinion as we get along.
3. UJNTINGENCY FUND FOR THE LITY - FISCAL 1976-1977 BE NO LESS
THAN $254,000,
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I think item 3 should be the last.
Mr. Grassie: As you wish, certainly...
Mr. Plummer: I feel that, you know, we've got to negotiate the best deal we can and
what we have left over is what's the contingency fee. If you would like a motion. I
would be happy to offer a motion at this time, that the contingency fund for the City
of Miami in the coming fiscal year be no less than $250,000. I will be happy to offer
a motion to that extent.
Mr. Grassie: That would do it.
Mr. Plummer: I'll offer that motion.
Mayor Ferte: Plummer moves number 3 on the basis that the contingency fund be no less
than $250,000.
Mr. Plummer: What I'm really saying Mr. Mayor is that the contingency fund contain
no less money than one day of salary for all city employees.
Mayor Ferris: Alright is there further discussion? Seconded?
Mrs. Gordon: What is the one day of salary Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Plummer: You divide five into ,..
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mrs. Gordon: Well, if statements are made and we are to rely upon them,we must know
they're accurate.
Mr. Mayor: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: I used that as a paradoy..I didn't use it as....
Mrs. Gorden: Well, if you are correct, fine, then you made a valid statement, but if
you are incorrect, let the record so reflect.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mr. Plummer: now much? I'm sorry Rose, I missed it about S4,000. I re -make my motion
that the contingency fund be no less than $254,000.
Mrs. Gordon: Is that correct?
Mr. Grassie: That's what the budget office tells me after a very quick calculation
and I guess that's about all I can say.
Mr. Plummer: That really is not true. That is based upon the fact that the employees
get no increase in ...
Mr. Grassie: You know, it depends upon whether you're talking about fringe benefits,
also whether you're talking about uniform or non -uniform. Whether you're talking about
temporary, you know, it's so many complications that I can't give you a straight --forward
honest answer without a lot more work.
Mr. Plummer: But it's in the ball park.
Mr. Grassie: .... It depends on how you calculate it, you're close.
Mr. Plummer: I make that in the form of a motion Mrs. Vice Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. There's a motion. Is there a second? I'd like to wait until the
Mayor comes back. (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENT) Discuss bn on the motion...
Mayor Ferre: The motion was seconded by Reboso. And, therefore I'm calling the roll.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. Discussion on the motion. I am not ready to vote any increases
in any funding of any kind until all matters resolving the amount of the total budget
and what the taxpayer is goiny to have to pay are resolved. I therefore vote no.
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ON MOLL CAW
Mr. Ongie; Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer; Let me state the record very clear. This is not an increase in funding
of any expenditure. This is an increase in a self reserve.
Mrs. Gordon: It's true, but in -- May I finish the
Mr. Plummer: I haven't finished the This
for one day of. pay. It is a reserve that the city has none of and
it to just one day of pay is just really no less than that you can
longer have a reserve for hurrican damage. So, this is the reason
yes.
statement.
rebuttal to your statement?
is a reserve, not necessarily
I think equating
do. We now no
I vote definitely
Mrs. Gordon: Discussion. This is a matter of bookkeeping because there are other
funds that are held aside that are in effect contingency funds and I have found
several in the budget that would relate to tiw.t discription. So, therefore, I do not
feel it's necessary at this time to set aside more money and therefore , having to re-
duce some of the services or raise the taxes to that appropriate amount that this will
be held unusable for any other purpose.
Mr. Ongie: Continuing roll call: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferrel
Mr. Plummer: Did you understand the motion?
Mayor. Ferre: Yes, I think so, I can vote. I vote yes.
Mr. Grassie: I wonder Mayor, if it would help if I made a clarification of what our
assumption is with regard to the overall level of the budget. I'm assuming that if the
overall level of revenues is not changed and if you vote to increase a specific line
item, whatever it be, that a result of that will be that we will have to decrease the
budget some place else.
Mayor Terre: I realize that. I'm very, very aware of that. That's what I'm really
waiting for. And, I made the exception of voting for this one, because I feel that
a contingency fund doesn't mean anything it is just at an accounting reserve that
could be used for other purposes, like for example, social programs that we have.
Mrs. Gordon: We have other contingency funds Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: What?
Mrs. Gordon: We have other monies that are laying there which are equivalent to
contingency funds, unused funds from the $900,000 which was budgeted from the Revenue
Sharing for the year of 75-76, all of which have not been used.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. Which is about $400,000 some odd dollars.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that. Those are all specialized funds that can only be used
for special purposes.
Mrs. Gordon: Not necessarily so.
Mr. Plummer: Which must be approved by this Commission.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-859
A MOTION OF INTENT THAT THE CONTINGENCY FUND FOR THE
CITY OF M1AMI FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1976-77 BE NO LESS
THAN $254,000.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon.
ABSENT: None.
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41 APPROVE EXFENbfTURES FOR RENfi AND PHONE EXPENSI: FOR MovIN4
LAW DEPARTMENT TO ULYMPIA BUILDING.
Mayor Ferre: Let's move to the next item. Law Department?
Mr. Grassie: Next is the Law Department, this is rent because they're moving into
the new building, the renovated building, the Olympia Building,and their telephone
cost.
Mrs. Gordon: That is the rent for one year?
Mayor Ferro: That was the agreement that we came to with La Baw when he came down here
and Mitchell Wolfson, was that,that whole thing?
Mr. Grassie: That's correct.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, what is the size of the area that is being rented and that
we are receiving for the sum of $32,274.00?
Mr. Grassie: Approximately 5,A00 square feet of office space on the loth floor and
the 8th floor of. the Olympia Building.
Mrs. Gordon: And, without my computer can you tell me how much we're paying a square
foot?
Mr. Grassie: I think it's about $5.50 a square foot.
Mrs. Gordon: And, did we receive that as raw space for our own improvements or was it
improved? Was it raw space or did we have to put money in to improve it?
Mr. Grassie: Both we and they are putting money into the improvements as I understand
it. Is that not right?
Mr. Grimm: The space has been completely renovated Commissioner and I understand that
there was some ---
Mrs. Gordon: Who paid for it?
Mr. Grimm: It's directly being paid for by the Off -Street Parking Authority in Administer-
ing the building, but there's some relationship wherein other funds will be made available
to do some other rehabiliting on the building, but the rent that we'll be getting,thit amount
of rent is covering complete renovation of the space and the use of it for the period of
time that we'll be using it.
Mrs. Gordon: What is the period of time that the lease is set-up for?
Mr. Grimm: There's no specific time.
Mr. Grassie: Year to year,in other words.
Mr. Grimm: Year to year.
Mrs. Gordon: Is it a year to year?
Mr. Grimm: Yes,and as a matter of fact I think it could be month to month. The Off -
Street Parking Authority indicated that when we get in there and get it renovated and
using it if we move out they will have less trouble renting it. They feel that they can
rent it and recoup their money to someone else if we don't use it. So, they're not
requesting that we sign any long-term lease at all.
Mrs. Gordon: What's the cost of the move? The actual cost of moving?
Mr. Grimm: All that I know is just moving expense. It will be in the neighborhood of
$1 , 500 to $ 2 , 000 .
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I don't mean that. I mean the cost of installation of equipment and
telephones, etc., etc. Does this $6,000 cover everything on telephones...
Mr. Grimm: Tho $6,000 is for (Ito telephones, they are being... This is the increase cost
that will he occasioned by the move but we will be paying of course rent for the telephones
over a period of time we're usiny them too, the regular fee.
Mrs. Gordon: But this is the installation cost?
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Mr. Otii ilt +his ill the payment on the installation cost, 'i$ielOre &morticing it
over a period of time . we will be paying an increase fee for the telephones that
we will be having, but there will be no additional fee for installation.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. Alright.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there a motion on the item?
Mr. Plummer: You feel that this is necessary?
Mrs. Gordon: I move that.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon moves,...
Mr. Grimm: I feel that it's already been committed, if we were directed to go through
with it.
Mayor Ferre: Gordon moves. Gibson seconds. On discussion. Further discussion.
Ca11 the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-860
A MOTION OF INTENT TO APPROVE EXPENDITURES IN THE
APPROXIMATE, AMOUNT OF $38,274 FOR RENT AND TELEPHONE
EXPENSE CONCERNED WITH MOVING THE LAW DEPARTMENT TO
TO THE OLYMPIA BUILDING.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
5, I3RILF DISCUSSION AND DEFERMENT OF CONSIDERATION OF
MLTRU AR I S CUUNC I L,
Mayor Ferre: Take item # 5, which is Arts Contribution to Metro Arts Council.
Mrs. Gordon: I move that be tabled.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion that the matter be tabled. Is there... No, there's
no discussion on that motion. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Mayor Ferre: Now wait a moment! Rose Gordon made a motion to table the contributions
of the City of Miami to the Arts Council of $10,000. I might remind you that that's
something that has been discussed on several occasions. I think we have some kind of
a moral commitment.
Mrs. Gordon: That doesn't mean we're denying it. To table it is not a denial. This
is to resolve the rest of the important matters of our budget and then come back to it.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion to table.
Mr. Reboso: (INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
(BACKGROUND INAUDIBLE COMMENTS)
Mrs. Gordon: I think the discussion should come through the microphone so that it
can be a part of the records.
Mayor Ferre: cloy, you are really being tough today....
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute,..are you talking about me Rose?
Mrs. Gordon: I didn't say anything. No, I was talking to everybody in general.
Just talk into the microphone. The records can he recorded.
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Mr. Ongie:. Alright on the motion tb table4 Mr* ttebo o?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer.: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: No.
Mayor Ferre: The matter is tabled.
b. MOTION OF INTENT TO FUND STATE DLPARTMENT ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM,
Mayor Ferre: State Department Assistance Program.
Mrs. Gordon: I move to table.
Mayor Ferre: I would like to strongly speak(into the microphone this time) on that
item. This is a commitment that has been made by the City of Miami with the State
Department, to go back on it at this time, to table, I think in my opinion is
unacceptable.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor you misunderstand me. I'm not voting against these items.
I'm simply saying they're not priority.
Mayor Ferre: ] understand Rose, you're doing the same thing that I did on the Social
Service Agencies and I understand exactly what you are doing,..and I've got news for you,
I've got a picket in front of my office, you know, all week and that doesn't move me,
you know, we all have our ways of being moved. I don't get moved that way. So, you
do what you want...
Mrs. Gordon: I don't see any pickets here Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll. There's a motion to table.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon; Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: No.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion to approve a commitment already made,
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer.
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Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Gibson. Further discussion. Call the roll,
Mrs. Gordon: What is this assistance for? Is anybody...
Mayor Ferre: Yes it's been discussed on these microphones several occa8iOne and the
record is very clear.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, would you tell me what this is for?
Mr. Grassie: Yes. If you recall this is the person who comes from the U.S. Informetion
office on loan to the City of Miami for a period of one year. His principle
responsibilities will be to help the city to work out the C.I.P.E. conference and also
the O.A.S. Trade Center in Miami. He will also be working on the question of consular
services in this community and possibly some questions of Tourism having to do principal-
ly with Spanish-speaking countries. We pay part of his salary, this amount,..the other
part is paid...
Mrs. Gordon: Is this the same program, the same funds, the same amount that Mr. Evelio
Ley is receiving or is this in addition too?
Mr. Grassie: No, this is a completely separate initiative. I believe Mayor Ferre got
this started to begin with, but we are using it in coordination with what we're doing
through Evelio Ley.
Mayor Ferre: T would like to remind you that it was taken to this Commission. This
Commission has voted upon it twice after full,open discussion.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, you misunderstand everything I'm saying and doing. I'm
simply asking you to get to the budget the important items and then we can take these
other items in due term.,..
Mayor Ferre: I understand.
Mrs. Gordon: And, if you insist in doing them out of what should be the proper
business -like way of doing it, the proper order of business,then I'm going to vote
opposing it, but I am for it, so therefore you can interpret it either way.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, that's your ... I understand.
Mrs. Gordon: So therefore you can interpret it either way.
Mayor Ferre: I understand Rose, and you're entitled to do that and you're entitled
to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine, so let's vote. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso.
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: I'm voting 'no' I will simply say and let the record reflect I'm for the
program. I support the program. When this vote is taken at the proper time I will
vote affirmatively. This is the improper time.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: The proper time of any vote is the will of the majority of this Commission
or the Chair unless he is ruled otherwise. And, we are following the procedure, we
started with number one and we are now down to number six and I vote yes.
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Inse11dW!ti tiwtien WAN ihtrt dttcsa by t oMmiesioner pit iii ek, Who moved its
edaptiont
MOTION NO. 76-e61
A MOTION OF INTENT TO FUND THE STATE DEPARTMENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN FISCAL 1976-77 IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $4,500.00.
tipon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon.
ABSENT: None.
7. MOTION TO FUND SISTER CITY PRUGRAM NOT TO EXCEED
$25,000.
Mayor Ferre: Take #7.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that it be approved.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Gibson seconds.
Mrs. Gordon: Which one?
Mayor Ferre: On item #7. We're taking them numerically, by otder,'in a business -like
manner.
Mrs. Gordon: I substitute the motion to table.
Mayor Ferro: There is a substitute motion to table. Is that under Mason's rules,don't
you have to make a motion to table first?
Mrs. Gordon: No.
Mayor Ferre: You can have a subsitute motion to table, right?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Weston: I think a motion to table would supersede ...
Mayor. Ferro: That's right. Ok. It's a motion to table, not a substitute motion.
Alright there's a motion to table. That has no discussion. Ca11 the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: No.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mr,. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: I vote yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Primmer?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: No. Plummer moves. Gibson seconds, item #7, Further discussion, Cali
the roll.
Mrs. Gordon: That was the one you just did.
Mayor Ferre: Yes ma'am and you lost. It was four to one. Now, there's a motion in
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The following mbtion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-A62
A MOTION OF INTENT TO FUND THE SISTER
IN FISCAL 1976-77 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
CITY PROGRAM
EXCEED $25,000.
Upon being seconded by rommi.ssioner (Rev,) Gibson, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon.
ABSENT:
ON ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Gordon: I'm in favor of a sister city program, but I'm in favor of voting on
the expenditures of this type after we have resolved the entire budget problem.
Therefore I vote 'no' on the motion.
8. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED RENOVATION TO CITY CUMMISSION
LHAMBERS,
Mayor Ferre: Take up item #8, Renovation to Commission Meeting Room.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, ok. There's a motion. Is there a second?
Mrs. Gordon: You're.speaki.ng of ...
Mayor Ferre: Item #8, the next one on the list.
Mrs. Gordon: I move to table.
Mayor Ferre: A motion to table. That goes without any discussion.
Mr. Reboso:
Mayor Ferre:
happens,then
What type of renovation?
Well, you can't discuss it on motion to table, so it depends what
we can discuss it after. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: 1 vote yes.
Mr. Ongie:
Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: No.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferro
Is there a
when we're
rooms Joe,
. I vote 'no' for discussion purposes. Now, Plummer did you move that?
second? I'll tell you the thing that concerns me about that is, you know,
going through a difficult budget, you know, like God knows we need meeting
but I don't know whether this is the time for us to be spending $40,000
for a mooting room.
Mr. Grassie: I didn't propose itMayor, that camp out of the workshop. The City
Conunissi on prurps::ed their sir ire that'" do this.
Mayor Ferre: I want ... 1 think we desperately need a room around this place so we can
work.
Mr. Grassip: We're talking about this room, principally.
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MspBt 'ettht bhp ydu'te talking about this tnviitt
Mr. Pltrmmwr: Yen, doing this room, the P.A. Systems, and things of that natUfa. It
did not know a figure. I asked...
Mrs. Gordon: I'd like to drive a cadillac but I can't afford one.
Mr. Plummer: WelltI like to drive a cadillac and I can afford one.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, then you decorate the room and leave me out of it. All the other
taxpayers that are hungry.
Mayor Ferre: Well, ok. I may vote with it but I have concerns about that right flaw.
Mr. Plummer: I have concerns about the figure.
Mayor Ferre: Well, alright you made a motion. Let's see if we can get a second on
that. Is there a second on the motion? Alright since there is no second on the
motion it dies for lack of a second and I guess that automatically kills it unless
somebody...
Mr. Plummer: No action, is no action.
9, MOTION TO FUND:
A) INTERNATIONAL IRADE RELATIONS
B) OFFICE OF INFORMATION; AS PROJECTS OF
THE DEPT. OF PUBLICITY AND TOURISM,
Mayor Ferre: Number 9 is Publicity and Tourism.
Mrs. Gordon: I move to table.
Mayor Ferre: There's 9(A) motion. Do you move to table 9 the whole thing?
Mrs. Gordon: I'm moving to table everything until we get to the budget itself.
Mayor Ferre: There's a Motion to table item #9. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: No.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: No.
Mr. Plummer: 1 move to approve 9.
Mayor Ferre: 9 A & B?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there's a motion on item 9 A & B.
Mts. Gordon: is that an addition to the ... Publicity & Tourism Budget as it's
presently in the budget as an additional figure?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, but there is an off -set of $50,000 as you heard.
Mrs. Gordon: Pardon me.
Mr. Grassie: There is an off -set of revenue, a new revenue of $50,000 from Metro
against this new expenditure. The new expenditure is greater than the off -set but there
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Mrs. Gordon: flag that been designated for this by Metro? fs that What you're baying?
Mr. Grassie: No. They have granted the city an additional revenue and we are dedign-
ated that revenue for international Trade Relations, which is an acceptable purpose.
Mayor Ferre: What's the Office of Information?
Mr. Grassie: That's the one you asked for Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Huh?
Mr. Grassie: That's the one you talked about.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, you mean that thing that we would take the old garage on Biscay:0
Boulevard?
Mr. Grassie: No, no. No, you suggested ...
Mr. Plummer: lie was absent.
Mr. Grassie: You sent memorandums I think to all of the Commissioners on this itetfl.
Mayor Ferre: Oh yes.
Mr. Grassie: Suggesting that an office of that type be established and we're simply
because of your initiative we're including it.
Mrs. Gordon: Will that be added to the millage that you charged on that special millage
for. the Publicity /Tourism?
Mr. Grassie: No, my.'assumption is that it will have to come out of that budget.
Mrs. Gordon: Out of the general?
Mr. Grassie: No, out o1; the existing Publicity budget.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, you just said it's an addition to the existing budget. They're
only providing you with 50 additional...
Mr. Grassie: That's correct. There is more expenditure proposed than new revenue.
Mrs. Gordon: Of course.
Mr. Grassie: But what I said.. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) I think applies to this one and that is
if you approve a new expenditure of a certain type we're going to have to take it
out some place else.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we all understand that.
Mrs. Gordon: We'll have to reduce some other part of the budget. And, at this time we
still are in a position where if the budget is approved the taxpayers will have a tax
increase, is that correct?
Mr. Plummer: Not if I got anything to do with it.
Mr. Grassie: Based on the proposed millage, yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Well then that was the reason for my table and...
Mayor. Ferre: Understood. Alright, further discussion. Ca11 the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gipson: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Are you voting on the entire package right now?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. 9 A & B.
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time for any item On this sheet, So therefore Z vote no.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer.?
Mr. Plummer: Y.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: I vote yes.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner PluMMer, who moved itS
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-863
A MOTION OF INTENT TO FUND THE INTFRNATTONAL
TRADE RELATIONS IN FISCAL, 1976-77 IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $42,000 AND AN OFFICE OF INFORMATION
IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $55,000 AS PROJECTS OF
TILE DEPARTMENTS OF PUBLICITY AND TOURISM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon.
ABSENT: None.
10. ("bT I ON TO FUND URBAN ISM sir PROGRAM. FISCAL 19/6-197/
(PLANNING. DEPARTMENT)
Mayor. Ferre: Take up item #10, Planning Department and Urban Design Program. What's
that?
Mr. Grassie: This is the result of the Boaz -Allen recommendation that you had about
10 days ago which you approved and I think we gave you the figure that resulted from that
recommendation, at that time,$30,000, and it's simply reflected here.
Mayor. Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion to approve.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer. Is there a second?
Mr. Reboso: Seconded.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Reboso. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 76-864
A MOTTON OF INTENT TO FUND THE 11PRAN DESTGN
PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF MTAMI IN FISCAL 1976-77
]N AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $30,000.
I)pon being .reeonded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gotdon
ABSENT: None.
Mrs. Gordon: Again, for the same reason I vote no at this time.
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lit lliSCUSS1ON AND DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF "Y11" (MtAOINCY
TELEPHONE SYSTEM),
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 411.
Mr. Plummer: I have to ask a question on 11, can you consulted with the phone company?
Mr. Grassie: No i have not:. I'm taking (I believe) it was the Mayor's word for the
expected new cost. Or did you bring it up?
Mr. Plummer: No, I brought that ... Yes. You have not ...
Mr. Grassie: No, I have not had a chance.
Mr. Plummer: Then I will make a motion to table this item until you've been able to
consult with them.
Mayor Ferre: Motion to table item #11. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Reboso?
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Rev. Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mrs. Gordon?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Mayor Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. (UNANIMOUSLY TABLED).
12. DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF SCHOOL OFFICER RESOURCE
PROGRAM.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, School Resource Officer Program.
Mr. Grassie: This is brought for discussion Mr. Mayor. I think that you all have
considerable amount of background on this item.
Mr. Plummer.: What is your recommendation Mr. Manager?
Mr. Grassie: Well, I... this happens to be an item that I find it difficult to
recommend on because I don't know what discussion you've had. I understand that the
City Commission discussed this a year ago and.it had to do with its relationship
to the School Board.
Mr. Plummer: Correct.
Mr. Grassie: Now, assuming that that is your policy position, if that's the position
of the City Commissionithen I think we have no alternative but to take the $225,000
out of the budget..
Mr. Plummer: No, let me tell you what the policy of the Commission was. That last
year. when Mayor Ferre and I think one of the member's of this Commission appeared
before the School Board it was said that we would match dollar for dollar anything that
they put up 1mt- that the following year they were going to have to fund it. Now, this
year they're telling you that they can't fund anything. Now, based on that policy
would your rr_conunen4lation bedifferent?
Mr. Grassie: I must confess Commissioner I simply have not looked at this program
and...
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Mayor Ferre: Ok. The motion to table I'm sure it will be unanimous. But the point
is thistthat last time around when we discussed this we said that we would ... and
we asked you to request the date Mr. Grassie to go before the School Board to discuss
this. Nas that been done?
Mr. Grassie: I'm sorry I'm getting two or three messages. What was that Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: The question Mr. Grassie was that you were instructed by the Commission
to ask for a date for this Commission to go before the School Board to discuss this
item at their budget hearing.
Mr. Grassie: I believe the staff has initiated that yes, but we do not have a response.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you know, I think we'll he running out of time pretty soon. It'll
be too late if it's not already too late. Have they adopted their budget? I think they
have.
Mr. Plummer: Oh yea they've adopted their budget.
Mr. Grassie: It would have to be a contingent item ... I'm sure.
Mayor Ferre: Well, ok. The item is tabled. Item 12.
Thereupon the following motion was unanimously voted to table the item.
13, MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS: DISCUSSION,
Mayor Ferre: Review of Civil Service Budget.
Mr. Grassie: You asked that we report back to you on ...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, for the record as indicated by Mr. Reboso and I?we have to
leave and we are now... (5 P.M.)
Mayor Ferre: 5:00 o'clock and that was really the agreement that we had that at 5 We
would break up. Those of ynu that want to stay, if you want to we can keep on talking
and I think whatever we do that has to be contingent upon the other two having the right
to vote.
Mrs. Gordon: I move we adjourn.
Mayor Ferris: There's a motion to adjourn. Alright, on the question of review of
Civil Service Budget, what is it that you want to tell us on that?
Mr. Grassie: Simply that ynu directed us to...
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, we got a contingency budget to vote en, otherwise we are going
to be in legal trouble and 1 don't think any of you would want to walk out and leave
the City in that Kind of a situation...Well, I guess I was wrong..(INAUDIBLE COMMENTS)
Pat...wilt you see if you can get Plummer in here for a moment and Reboso and tell them
that we need to vote on something?
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, we may not be in as tough a situation as it seems. There is
a Charter provision, I understand, which does provide that we can continue lacking an
appropriated (GAP IN TAPE)...orderiy process to have a continuing Resolution and I would
prefer that...
Mayor Ferre: well, if that's the case then ... because I don't think you'll get a_majority
back here agai►►. Pension Funding, you want to discuss that now?
Mr. Grassie: I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: Item If 3 Mr. Grassie.
Mr. Grassie: I apologize but everybody is talking to me at the same time Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's your problem not mine.
Mr. Grassie: Simply, we wanted to bring this up for discussion if you wanted to discuss
it. we have nothing to add. We feel tl►at. the recommendation in the budget with regard
to the period of years, 35-years is adequate and if you concur in that,we wi11 leave
that in as the assumption that will be funded by the city.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Anything else?
Mr. C►assic: No sir.
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Mayor Verret Well, we've been actually adjourned since Rose decided to walk out on
us. So there's nothing much we can do about it. So, when is the next time we are
going to meet on the budget?
Mr. Grassie: Well., we're going to have to ask the staff to get with your individual
calendars and see when we can put another meeting together.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Grassie: I hope to do it reasonably soon,of course.
Mayor Ferre: Ok,sir.
ADJOTIRNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the City Commission the meeting
was adjourned at 5:03 P.M.
ATTEST: Ralph G. Ongie
City Clerk
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
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