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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1976-01-15 Minutes1 V MfITHOD OF SUf.v.vr.rom OF JANUARY 15 19 76 NM CITY MA rtOCR • PREPAWP or fik ortici 1111- 1111Y MN: Y HAI 0. V. fit IN VOli Cflq A+4(4:" • MINUTES OF SI'ZtiCIAL. CITY CoN 1I SIUN Mer;'iiNc CITY DV MIAMI, FLORIDA On the 1Sth day of January, 1976, the City Commission of the City of Miami, Florida, met in special sennion called by the Mayor to consider business of public import. The meeting was called to order at 9:08 o'clock A.M. by Mayor Maurice A. Ferro with the following members of the Commission present: Reverend Gibson, Vice -Mayor Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre. Absent: None. An invocation was delivered by Reverend Theodore R. Gibson, who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. 1. MET1 Op OF SNl,ECTI NG NSW CITY MANAQ RR: The Mayor announced that the meeting had been called for the purpose of deciding on a method of selecting a new City Manager to replace P. W. Andrews who had announced his retirement. The following discussion occurred: Mayor Ferro: I would like to begin by first asking Paul Andrews to repeat his advice to us. and secondly I want to relate to you some of the things that I have been doing and the conversa- tions that I have had. and then I will open it up for discussion, first by the Vice -Mayor and secondly from the commission, which is the way we always do this. Paul. P. W. Andrews, City Manager: I made a rather firm recommend- ation to the City Commission that they use a process of selection that would include both people within the City, within our local jurisdiction, the State of Florida and nationally by using a consultant firm to assist the City in going through an initial screening process by nationally advertising for this positions that that firm --and I can't overemphasize how important I think that will be to the Commission, and I don't think that you will appreciate the importance of that step until after it is taken and has been completed. Then we will look with retrospect at the importance of that particular step= of using some agency away from the City and away from the Commission, as the initial device in obtaining applications and screening them to a point where such screening process will produce a half dozen applicants --I use that as a round figure; it could be ten to five, but 1 think you should at least have a minimum of five --with the complete freedom loft, then, to tho City Commission to make a selection from either the thin, if you choose to take that many for interview process, but usually rbcut six, and than you conduct a regular interview —and the prrceu es of that nature are usually conducted right hero in this chautber b� fora the public, and you go through the arse c ning process with f.:fose individual applicants: and that suet ins: ividua1 become available, if the Commi.usion accepts the batanco of ray recommendation, that c'& create a temporary Assistant Manager and that person 1,_'come available for an overlap period of approxi- mately sixty days, so that he will be available to work with roe up to the date of my termini:O a:4 from the City. And, Mr. Mayor and members of tho Cnn *i::aion, I vent to say this for the third alms If you have ev►sr trusted s o i p the pant in complicated icated things that we have Bony through, you yuuraelvva way not have talked to many inclividualts about tht selection process, hut I have boon e:,c�:+oned to this area or, w311, noisily fifteen years, ,Ipy ;; °Ar> 4100"'"" through a variety of managers, through attending seminars. die cessions at the International City Managers' Association on selection procrsnes, and i know for a fact that the advice that i am givin you is sound advice in which you will in the tong run not ciet -ourselves in trouble. Ix Mayor Ferro: Let me describe a process which I followed since we met last week, and I'd like for you to give me the five or ten minutes that it will take. but it is in some detail, step by step. what I did. I first called Boon -Allen and talked to Stewart Matlin, and I asked him what they recommended; whether 11 we should do this in-ho e, or whether we should get a Miami or Florida search firm, or o outside and get a professional firm. He told me that his advise was that we go outside and get a pro- fessional, well-recognizea firm to do this. I had a phone call from the Arthur D. Little Company of Cambridge, Masnachusetts, and I talked to a fellow by the name of Norman Roberts, who I have never mat and never talked to )aefore. His office is in San Francisco. California. and Arthur D.-Little is. as I ata sure you all know, along with Boaz -?Alen, are a two Cadillres in the industry of management consultants. D. Little is probably a little bit larger than fooz-Allen. have got something like sixteen or seventeen hundred co tants that work for them and they specialize in a lot of work r governments. One of the things that they do is they seek talent. They don't do it in the private world, for a business concern. Arthur D. Kittle will not go out and find people in the business world for business companies. but they do do it for government. Now, I talked to Btoz-Allen, and Stewart Matlin said to me. well if you go to Arthur D. Little you are going to our competitor. our main competitor. and the implications of that. I said. well, would you recommend that we go to a straight search firm. and he said, yes, I would recommend -- and he gave me two names. He gave ma the names of Robert tamale Associates, and Pearson Keating. Yesterday morning I met --and Rose Gordon was present, and the Manager, at this meeting where we ware talking about housing and this bond issue, and after the meeting we talked briefly --and I told them what I have just told you. Rosa had a good recommendation, I thought, and that was to call the International City Managers' Association end get their advice. So in her presence on the loud speaker there I called the Director, tlr. Mart Keane. I first as::ed Mr. Keane whe hc:r or not the City Managers' 11szsociatton would recommend end somebody for us, and he said, no. they would not do that: titN do not do that and w auld not consider it as a matter of policy. Then I asked hits to rcco:a- mend a firm. He said, no, he couldn't do that either, but ---I said, what are the firms that have C:. prrtine turd knowledge that are known; itiui he stztrto1 of by saying, well, the heat known t Arthur D. Little, but there are other firms, n'td recom:: tth'J that -- he s i. aei.al1y edvi::ed t:ho City t•.0 be very cctrcf.ul not to uheone a firm that, does no:trch ju3t for km:inc:rZ:te: s that you sh4u14 wt somebody who knrnrt loc.tl government wells na4.1,Awriy who is c.zj r- icnood in searching for local government. He recommended to me that I call L. 1'. Cool;ieehom, who in aanoeletod with C.ttl han and eemearly, and bu also reco:rranded that: I call the Mayor tit Ghee,:.tier to tied out bin opinion of Arthur P. Little. I called up the t, tyor of Ciearwater, and the Mayor of Clearwater is bi aad new. r►'c..nt.o', (1.10..04. Ho Was net thc•ro, according to hire, when Arthur D. Little tr.t:, nee.ct to r:loet a City Manager, but it was his ojiist{oe the:- w uueht ie ::..ieet a Weal Inns Mid do it in-huu*o: il?P4 w►t d..n't rlo.tI ow v:11.'•' 2 ee reeeic+all !tell►. Mgt " a t iso new •.1 Mayor of Clearwater's opinion. I --that was a rather brief con- versation, and a pleasant ono. but that was hin opinion. I this morning called Mr. L. P. Cookinghan and he said that, uf. course, he had a very high regard for Arthur D. Little; that it wan a very well known firm all over the world, but that he had a con- flict because he had an association with Callahan and Company in Chicago, but that he recommended that we also talk to Callahan because, even though it is a small and not a well-known firm, it would be wine for us because they happen to have expertise in hiring• especially -in local governments. Now, that's the full extent of what I have done, and now I would like tr, e:,•prer s my opinion and then pass it on to somebody else to give their opinion. Here is what I think we ought to do. I think we ought to hire -- oh. you have gotten a letter which was sent to your offices yes- terday around noontime; it was hand delivcad to each one of your offices, from Arthur D. Little, dated .tanu. • 13th. and as you will see in it they recommend that this would cost seven thousand, eight hundred dollars. and they are estimating expenses to be twenty per cent. of that. which is under ten thousand dollars. which frankly i was very surprised at because Boom -Allen told me that it would cost between twenty and thirty thousand dollars. So to get an offer from Arthur D. Little of under ten thousand dollars was a surprise to me. OK. here's my recommendation of what I think we should do: I think that we should hire the Arthur D. Little Company and have there advertise and search, in conjunc- tion with the International City tianagerb' Association and come back. within whatever time frame we recommend here. with five candidates. I think we should have a joint meeting with the Arthur D. Little representatives so that we outline the specifi- cations of what we want. For example. I think we may want to give special weight to local, the local candidates, especially people that are working for the City of Miami, and then. maybe. some kind of weight for Dade Countians and Floridians who may have had local experience. We may want to give some additional weight, for example. to the fact that a minority or a woman might be a candidate. We would have to consider. and maybe discuss --it all depends how many, how much weight we would want to give to all these things, but we may want to define and specify --and then have them come back with five candidates. I would then like to ask Mr. Paul Andrews and Mel Reese, who know the City extremely well, to personalty interview those five people and come up with a rocorruaendatio+t to this Cornmisnion. Then n thin Commission would deliberate and make the final choice on its own, and ewe- ? one of the five as it craw fit. Now, why Arthur D. Little, and why this proee:co, and why not locally? I think wo are at re very im- portant c:c+snroacls in the City of T•tiaqcti, and I think that: the nett City N,,n:+';c•r in going to haver a tremndons l.,c'ori► q on t:lest the future of the City is going to Le, nnl I than!: we :r1 ottl_d ¶) about it in a very objective way so that it will not: be r:ubjf.et: i o any- body's critici.rirg, car oven daring to in'er thatthc•'•v in 13oli tic.-tt proc enu p+_ cronyi:;n or seleetioe. I thin% t:rntif toT� have --and I know we have —good people withi4 Ct .y :4'1,ti. At?t.rc$- tion, that they should her t:bie to atand up to the whim ea i to the pressure of scrutiny. and I are pure that they will col..-. out with flying c otorns and that'a tat,• way I thinOw4 should (jU about the selection process at this particular time. I would rather go to Arthur D. Little rather thin Catldhan or !senate or Kcwti 119. be cnuao Arthur 11. Little in a pre+' ' .ion;rt cowpa.fy without any blemishes. It is just hcty oac1 criticise. 1iohody can any tl, iL the+ Arthur D. Little Company any wuu?i .0, seivc i. to at am' ``' "' -e preaoure fre s anywhere), a4 d 1 think they ar<e - • ro fesston41. about it. and I thin% they would dA an excellent job. I si':wid bt* .Jfly I perfectly willing, if somebody has any other rucommendnttnns of another professional company, to consider it. Mrs. Cordons I expression from the whether they want a think it might be a good idea if we had an Commission, before we talk about a firm, firm. Mayor Ferre! All right, Rose; I lust want to make a statement, and then I'll recognize you. Mrs. Gardens No. I don't want to be first. Mayor Ferrel well, you are the Vice -Mayor. co that you are the next to speak, and then we will go on a seniority the way we always do around here. I have just about finished. I just think that this is the simplest and best way. Oh,' one other thing I wanted to share with you. %then I called Booz-Allan back Stewart Matlin said to me, well. I guess you are going to us;e Arthur D. Little. i said, well, this is just my opinion. The Commission hasn't de- cided thin. and he said, well, let me tell you. something like this normally costs twenty to thirty thousand dollars. If Arthur D. Little has made a bid to do this for under ten thou- sand dollars it is because they are very anxious to do some work for the City of Miami. and you are not going to find any- body to come in with a lower coat than that. I said, wall, is that bad? He said, Mr. Mayor, in all honesty I have got to tell you that Arthur D. Little is a topflight, professional firm just like Rooz•-Allen, and there is no way you could go wrong. I just wanted to put that into the record. Mrs. Gordon: First, as I said before, it would be a good idea at least to express firstly on whether the mnjorit" wished to go the route of a professional firm or whether or not they wish to do their own screening and decision making. rather than have it going down the line of consultant to ex - city managers and be told who is the appropriate candidate. What's just one aPproach, one item. Secondly, the Arthur Little Company is a well known and well respected company in tho United States, but there are other well known and respected firms in the United States of America. taut), as for as coats are con- cerned, you don't: have a:r)y otho_ coat factors tor any other first^, »» therefore aleloujh Mr. tkstlin's ori: ion is thr.t we have a bargain, I ih' n;: tlt.tt it in a matter, if we deter. ••ti.ne we want a consultant, n•iti cant is a factor, then s•;;.• shonld have :more than pm' bid, a a va do wi.t-I'1 t'vc. rythita=; else where s;,• apc,nc1 Cho City'n vc9tir . Then thirdly, thu !3oo7-,VJ c n Company, which is ,another highly rvnf , ctc d rirN ."140 .o i a lot or %•:.)rk for the City. 04 MI, ()nor hn'i h::s Leon ruled cut s:ro:.i eon:•i•'cra)-- tio:t an a consultant: lroc:a.w%) of the c].o tiom to the City by ri'• c:o'.: 1%rovi ottu t!or±;. That r•nc'i05 to be a [joar rali opinion, and I am not dLFi:►g rt..,i net w i t i th.'t or► ern i uv.i ►s tu;t ; 1 alr:t rather rtnpha,R:iriuy it an h.•ing 4t good and valid mason, But still they/ are a rectpect,'ci and well %:nowrt firm. Now, in my th i > 1 cci,'vont alony thu 5411,73 Jinni, the rvcoi: nend:itton of Arthur Little fro:+t t3ori:t-A1.1••16, to m-. iu :: li tt1 L• bit too clone to the in-1sou:sc ficax which v.1 alri:dc1', haw., and 1 MI nut to, inolin:.cl to that, recom►a•.1s•iat:i.on an in-lieu:le .f.i roe. I Clink that; i f t .! �c i dr.•, f.h., ta:s je'r. i ty '1oc: icl:?•t that w.tn L to go the route of a conlaltiny firi, t2toa, the leading firms in tho coUst1r1•, of which there r:x.v :t ntuat'n,••--nt{mtj.+r onu that 1 wanks lik4+ to i4 JAN ! 1 6 mention is the Yarger firm which did work fur. the City of 'li nmi and is n well known anti rflapec:tcd firm, and cl.td a :loud job, 03 I t•nclerstanc1 it, for the City. In that right, Mr. Andrews? Mr. Andrews nodded assent. Mrs. Gordon: You have no complaints with them. 'Theft, pre- vious to their working with the City, there was another firm, Public Administration Services out of Chicago, who worked with the City et some point in time. Is that correct, Mir. Andrews? Mr. Andrews nodded assent. Mrs. Gordon: And you were employed by the City at the time. Do pu fault them in any way? Mr. Andrews: I don't remember enough of the details any more tom Mrs. Gordon: To your best recollection, you cannot find fault. Mr. Andrews: No, but Mr. Faulk (Executive Secretary to Civil Service Board) would be better --the person that you wou d have to ask that question of. I know there were scout problems. but I can't remember --- Mrs. Gordon: All right, let's not at thin point putth.tt- out as a very prime subject for discussion; but thee' iir firms. There is the Callahan firm from Chicago, and ti is another firm which is a n .tional firm with an affii li company in Coral Gables. So 1 say this simply because thy. are other firms, and if wa are indeed going to go this rare, if the majority say this is the route we go, then I think we should put out a letter of request for bids. Mayor Ferret Before I recognize Mr. Plummer I ju.;t. for the record, want to state; because you made a statement there I want to correct. Rose. Boo:' -Allen firm, in my first conver- sation, did not recommend Art: our D. Little. They thought that we would be better advised to use :toroy:►ody else. You said that ttt.:y wero recommending theca. In my final eonv,!r:iati0n under rttc'ution from me Mr. Stewart t•iatli n reecgni >d that: Artht I1..Little w:13 a prefesnional firm of high caliber .tn:1 that in his opinion, as a competitor and a pr_ofons;c.a,,1, that wo were not going to got anything, any firm of any value to df, thin fcn- tiny le:;z than twenty thrift:;a11J c;ollarn. Mrs. C4,"d n: 1:c1.1 I WO do i't t'..iu:ii tit :w cy1 rt4t.'•::• for t.+icla, t:. soa.t *. ut 0,11 ri.r".'•-'iv•:f : ursl.>, lei:= oT •mica, Alas Il7e1"1111(' al Mayor ec.r i : 1441: visit rr.:► 1:? tlttt f: t1te! i.. nt that --- Mrs. Gorr.tdoa: i:c,; chat I ti' Ieratood--- Nayor Perrot That lh+re was n close relationship br4t1/;en t oz-piton ani I:r. thur D. Li ttIf:. , ;,l7; 2.1rr,. Cordon: No: only the kind of relationship tit t, for instance, n loading realty firm might have with another realty firm. There is a kind of a cc c per itive friendship that c.t i sts, and that does not mean it is a detrimental c:tistence; I am just saying thero is a kind of allegiance within the firms that are working in the name field of endeavor. Mr. Mummer: Mr. Mayor, 1 can be hr+c!f or I can b. long. No, I don't want an outside firm. Yes. I do want a local man. I sit here and think that had t,•e, maybe, gone through thin pro- cess we would not have had Paul Andrews, and right on down the line, and I remember other firms that have boon chosen to do such work. A very vivid ono is whore sixty-five hundred dollars was spent and the man who was chosen coulclq't even be con:iiderd by the firth for evaluation. I que:�.� it i:,•'. maybe because of --I hate to say .4 great love for thy City. but: I was born .and raised her`, as you are well aware. 1 want a man, i f it i:; 1,0ssible to find locally, who knows th- i rcii 1..ia .sf thi:; City; 0 man who has lived with the probly ; co " this City, anti bc. roro I would ever consider going to ,:n r'ut .aide con:>>alt.mt. ► f 1 were to, I would first want to di.;r't"?u t that thee'. wan r:.;t !,orpbody within the City, either i tht. ialmini :,tration. or r c;�. tone in this South Florida ? r,•a. '. t.•ould not be the i erson that we are lookin'3 for. ' f t}t +t t:0u1.'1 fail, then and only then, would 1 wa.;t to, consultant to he] to on a nation- wi Ci•` !;t•:,rc'h. .i t i! . '..• t :it 1.:•' r 1n.'1 of this Cut:'::;i:;'.i iort in tho pant, t e have., yes, t•t.::'.• • cleci:: i on::, and I per:;ona11y do not want to go throil;Jh Let+ i ruc'e ;3 of a consultant. Roverend c i b;:nn: Mr. Mayor, I know the record will reflect that I have always b-.en for local talent, and I have not changed. I would hope. since Junking for people is a part of my business -- that's the way wcs y a t appointed to churches-- if anybody tolls you to the contrary, don't believe them. The poly Spirit works in men and makes men do what Cod wants them to do. As I said, nobody would dare say that Gi heron hasn't been out and out for local talent. I am now. "qt. I don't think you and I need to close our minds and close our eves and atop t'? our' ears. If I wore the public, noaniny othor than ou this Cc-.:nmi nsion. and we did not search, I would wa.1t to find out very quickly whether or not thin Co:atati 3s.ion, this City, anybody ol•:E4 is detcrm; ned to take a now look. That wou1.d tt:! z.y Ci:ittci.`;ii . That in nut to say --and this is .he' }.e.y for ma --I think that if. 4:." cp:. :11 outsid4 firm to look in on t:h-!t you have h••rc, and 1. ' on what you have in St. Pete And acme of those other places. c►k en t ;it yott have in f..:w York ztna of r,owliksco, aid if thy co: back itnd ',alb, u`' to tve tt••o pcoplo horn i:t lati+ter, Wu :3tUrt 10 .C!',j.l.11g dQ9 cjU:l" q[lO(i, Ti1.;t' .3 the ,Jay ): t you oathat t) }.�iii:;to~:-i, ani th.it,'i; tar vote!i••!i l .ive thanthis, lio;:l�t';i.' that guy, literally; you e:Pe ha:: to go in Cho bcJrcom, you i:::uw, Who; you rt.•et :,ic-1:, Arid whc•.1 year have thole to::citat which pare far more tend!r thin firing n mark if ha duos:t' duet*. $o I thi ult what w3 ought to des i ;: to 9.1t firm that LA ootiaj to cor rots t.t all thi c; gethor, nn.i ray, W.' prvtty t:me`t know c:: wo Cho 67:!'J4i-44,14 s i►ill)W 141111 WC want, }Il! sa. • •. \1 r1a comment. 'L'}10 I•Ianu)yC'r (lid rsoll t.ili.nj t.h.tt very few rn-gin would do. Any man who was ri" 11n! e 1, ;1•4 Lc, 1•:,1:1, k11t1t•;it)ci how 1 felt then and feel now, wouldn't have done that. 'You know what he would have done. Ile c•:cw1d have cOrt(• to you quietly Band recommended ono of his a ;:;i ..:tint.; or said do it locally. I want the Commisai vn to know that Theodore Gibson feels that there is fear more going on this pitch than a lot of ua think. And I want to concur with Plummer. I 0 a native; sixty; I atn a little older than you, Plummer. So, I thin' we ought to go to an outside firm. Now, as to who, I wond-•r, like hose, about Arthur D. Little, but when the elan comes h.1•"4 and f;ay1 to me what Anon -Allen said, who is a corl,,wt i t.cr, i' l l tell you --I don't know how you all (lo, but you }:now it 0 man in the kind tf business I am in, meaning dr'r(linr; ::it', r. •(.,i(•, would recommend hi n competitor —let me tell you what is invortant &out the secrtni part of what the Mayor said. (loon -!Alen does the Elaine thing an Tittle. Boon -Allen is rccomm and is t:i:1 ; n jamble, one hell ofa gamble. _,itt1., •it tl e gets in it -re anf satisfies us of certain key things, t3orm--ftllen stand r?t.1nc. o 1o{1(Jer hol.lin;1 the 1 ii^•7,1 1tIht fur us. Se you to worry i>iiout -i11 l n. l:Itnw. Plea^, und"r- r 1 don't 1.:•1t)'a r.rth11`- j,: tt i.+' and ctd Ilel c;:".••"' v.1.1!. to t •, 11 von t:t it t': fact that 111.7 would recommend io . ie. :,•l1,!` • ,.►.-'•l!•'•1 r 111 i cO'1•,ri(,;1., ef. ttnJ all of U3 11:1'.' r;W t!` .. .. ; . 1 •1; ` i t:,.tr 1:r:')W that ()tie...! Little (lets their r (1',t 1 It t 1:•• )r t • (". illt7 to ha':.• i1 CIC'V. I of a tt_2:e l.•uc;hitl� t'ai•.1 b • ul •7st'ci to th:t:-. Mrs.Conlon: tot ti:' 1U it. cont on one point. rather, , in the chu*ch you d(in't nf.t,'n l'•tv(, th.r nocessity of recommending o`iv'r churchesso r rt_lybe• you (i ), but 't inriy })roFession have very many opportunities to r :::emnencl other firms, because for one reason or another I a:a not interested or I do not want to or I should not handle a particular case, and the code of ethics which guides our profession would preclude my taking over that client as a permanent client, or in the reverse, thy person I recommended would not, under our code of ethics, do that. That would be wrong. It is not a kind of a non-;,,'•,ct> atonal orgnn3 nation; these that we are talking about t().1,a,' ar,'1 the Lind that I tam associated with, So fear. not. 1r 7:1.t'u( Li the maven in they will not:, unless fobr.-a'lt 1 < n C3Cf11't want the acecunt any lo!lt;or, w3.1.1 not t.:!1:' -- CCtit.ttai . !^., don't have to worry IT'.)out that. Y'r. it °})').•.;r'1: :1c r i •1 1 i.(+ly 1. .1:.1 in favor of- h:i. r i ,1 :, ! ' ff!;,lt)aa:al (1;_•u't -inc.. I'•:471)• ,lO, 1 t•)?.. t1 y})r. tv:' nhoo1(, lou'c 4, 1 i.i:1'1 o further to an()"-h.fir.:„ ' •. 'I 1 r ' 1 .• t••• t,ha:1. L.•, •a l.►ti tl li.! d.'t :•'T :'�►Ct11 1+ r"�()`i�3t.��t , }1.1 t.h•'L t •'•�' .. i��i.;'11, it t,',1:: t 11: it�i►; vj :in t:11C' .i r.;t i..1 ,' i.h, : t tt')Cl.�.-�.l lt.rl. t.•}'.fit, i'.'.`i CO c1C)r:.. ti.. t:Ia .'tty, (!f'ul.t1 (i .-11. but i can s (.. t:l : • ci )'t, `. t i c. t. o .i nt a? r,..:; L t h •, 1.1 •'i' 1 � , . The wily thin.; t:11.1t.' I (1i)?t' {. with t:11.1,t:. \•+)ta :if' i t ••! tit :j firi:a, tit tt:(' '.•r 11 i./, : 1(.,1iCt t;c•1;'.'L, 1 would :..!" , r, , 14 +i"'• - _- tat; tt,i: };"•lit)t:, :ILO tat -41 t).'t:t.. • .4 a ;•tr, aititlr(•v 1 and war) can s'''1•'c't ; iVt• of t'13s.' t".4:•14 but tt ,j: I.(' I:tea,l7} i ou t 1)•.:: no 1 "':3, t t:il.t:l t v " • :7 ; .4.4 :it . • da .7 Mayor !'or'r'C a T tool1(i acirri' With any of theca --and 1)y the way. 1 want t.(J ::ay again that --well. I want to rimy two things. ngs. 1'ir t of all, tli,4L t ne4.,er cloalt: with Arthur ?:l. Little personally. for t;}• re(•c,r..l. My co:ip;tfy has never used Arthur D. Little. t don't know anybody in Arthur t . Little, anti 1 have mover talked to anybody in Arthur D. Little until I talked to Mr. Norman c. Roberts. 1 have never rtct Mr. Rrt1)erts before. I have n(2vor talke0 him about anything previoun to this. and have only hacl telephone conversations with him, npeci fically dealing with this. 1 want to say that for the record. t lr :a . indicated, pick this t 1 r.-,. a good cc,r1f Cordon: I reiterate that, Maurice. I have naver t'or (V) 1 indicate now that there is ial •, ;�to J honestly w.;rr e to the cxtcnt that they are 1 d i s.at.1rn., hay .-aurae of the other telephone call that we heard • • erch v in which it WAS not what I consider a good recot nd.te t for in fire. .s- Ma 4211. the man was very honest. and h.: said Chat he di - ti r. ' a,:.)c'ut it b cau:;F• he wasn't Mayor whin t:]jt 11ttli •,t-; en "i . oavo 1`1?.: l ersonal opinion..... Mr: ?AP Seelt..••, • , • and an:1ou•,. t ac;.t i tt 1 i .1*: dies :,:-.•;s': :t: T ju ,t t•.,ratto fin;ah my sentence. please_. t al•,' t►:c• (,t_?...r t.elc 'hon call that I witnessed-- . 1, t, t.'1,.'tk ''ou for rt.ikinq t:hi. call while T th sr c to hoar and it via() totally ext.'rTtpor.- .h.1•; nani nq 1.1.-1nned about the call at a11; and y{u for that privilege —but the, Mayor of Clearwater v.ry veil to the total conceptof a professional firm, or 1,irhiq a• professional firm. its said he had been el- ected to make judgments and he believed that, although this action had taken place prior to his election, he believed that if h:• had to take that kind of step today he felt qualified enough to make this decision and to screen people, and not have to tell a professional firm what he wanted and have them go and screen them. He felt he could do it himself. That was his opinion --and he did not belittle the companl. Mayor Ferret Yes, that':t vory accurate, but he wa3 very clear to point out that he was not there when Arthur U. Little was used, and I might point out that if I picked up the phone and called Mayor Dale 13-nnett of fiiaalc3ah .and asked his el,iuton he would wives me a t it,tiltar opinion, and then if X got on the phone and called Itlrolci Rosen, he touid prol,.,bly have a differ- ent opinion, so. you know, the fact that on !lnyor of owl city in onn plaaco--the reason tip:, c::l argil thn Mayor of Clearwater i.:tr because Sir. Keane or the international City :i-t1tagern' J#:s:;cc'';a-- tion thought that 1.c edit;lit ht;tvt! :tonto .i.nput. re!: to Arthur o. bi t.tl c , hut he didn't; 1 tv.►'y t n.-at, t tai ., ; l n a 11; ."1 y c 1.oate.; mnynr that didn't ho•'e any kno,:'' : :,p or it: :'ca W:a.t'' t•J etu3.,rt ut,' (jet- ting in t-ht• pt+rwsn.al cap i niO,. of t•lt'. Wleo h,sci r:r, relation- ship wl.tit I1r1:buv' D. Mill- ::,1.1 jti::t y ►« t!•' :a 1wr'sc 'ia1 O •. ni.on.. that's Finn. Yuu tipt:tr ' 7 i t ono t, say 1 share it. I jbait: 9n d t1/'it i Mayor I'c►rrtis bolat,ur this RI for threo or four more 3tvur:4--- d owl up !sore Mrs. Gordon! only because I want to hope that we will have more than one firm to choose from. if we go the firm route. Mayor Ferro: Now, the three of ur3 expressed. out of five. that we would like to hire 7 irofessional firm. Let's do this officially. Would somebody make a notion? Reverend Gibson: 1 move, Mr. Mayor. that we engage a professional firm to do this search for us in selecting a manager for the City of Miami. 111110sot Second the motion. 46.0 Mayor e'er •e : All right, call the roll. Mrs. c,-,rdon: Discussion? In voting on this motion, if this motion is intended for a specific firm, only one, X will not vote on the r:otion. Reverend Gibson: Rose, one thing I. I think all of you know me by now. that i may not know much more, but I doggone sure know good English. I said for the purlone of selecting a manager. I didn't say nothing about no firm. Mrs. Gordon: But, F1 tl;.!r, when I take a vote on this. I have taken a step in a direction, and if the direction iu going to lead to a sinole firm a;,i,oints:^.. it, then 1 am going to vote against the i .otion, t1n t' n why ---- mayor Ferro: But you don't know what's going to happen, Rose. Mrs. Gordon: I can't vote affirmatively unless I know what the next step is going to be. Reverend Gibson: Mr. Mayor. Rose doesn't have thAt right. She has the right to vote on the motion. You don't have to lobby --I don't want anybody lobbying my motion up here. The motion ia--and we discussed b ►foro it W:,a t7a:1e that we were ready to take an action. Before it v,'s na:1we (;nvo ou:-ia- ions and all that. I made thy r t h • .: t rye is vote me Down. Mrs. C'Or 1o' ; motion. n. •,'i7 r i.11 t tt._• i'o ' r.'n £ d'n roe •''.• *,. t ..'. +`t' IMI.:t t tt., ray Mayor. t'c:rres '( ao (heir t:ulvs unler our ucne.)t.tii nq s Oat Mrs. Cordon in tutit.i.ed to o:f•Yr a substitute action. Now l would 1il:e to see if there Is .3 srt:c,ni to stir. vel:atituts, >rnatiu:1. There wa:i rru st•cen'"v1 to till r,;.,tic„t. Mayor Ferrel nearing no second the motion will diva for lack of n ::econd. I would like to recomeend, Mrs. Gordon, that your motion be a subsequent motion after we vote on father Gibson's, and that you have a little faith in the integrity of the maker of the motion -end the intent of the motion, very simply, as he said. in the F:nglinh language, states that it establishes the Philosophy of this Commission to go to an outside firm, period. It doesn't do anything more than that. Now, what kind of a firm, and how we go about it, is the subject of further dis- cusei©n, and I will be happy to recognize you for a motion subsequent to this. Now, without any further discussion, and hearing none, they I call the question. Ca11 the roll. Thereupon the motion. introduced by Reverend Gibson and seconded by Mr. Reboso, an follows: MOTION no. 76-67 A MOTION OF INTENT THAT THE CITY or MIAMI ;ENGAGE A PRO fESSIONAL FIRM TO EVALUATE AND RECOMMEND TO THE CO:•1;$IS- SION APPLICANTS FOR THE POSITION Or CITY MANAGER was passed and adopted by the following vole - .:Y.::;; Rc'•vrend Ci.b3on, Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Heboso and Mayor 'ccrre. MES: i•Ir. Plummer. Mayor Ferret Now. I would like to recommend faith regard to this: I have ne need, personally, to select anybody other than Arthur D. Little because I em satisfied, one; that they are qualified, and two; that they have the highest reputation. and three; that the expense is very reasonable, four; the manager hasn't said this, but I aysumi gist 'rthur 3. Little is an :tom: •_pt.'?)1.' c'O:'i %y in your opinion .::tc1 th:tt three are no t,l. ..;... 0% ti. •ir r:p '.lt' ;nc: 1.1;11y, ate.1 paril: 3 most a, i t h 1i t 'r,1 1 cr.. to pror•.-• , that they very e e _1!: 61 O ?y' for the t' t i I' 7t ' .11 I :t• ;.r :��:irtg c:(! are into ;ri t. . So tit IL: 1: ' :f:l c:o 1.:11 .. . Paul 1rltllstj>;:' boror . 1 t . a a1C;,:2IiLablo, anti 1'.'JU go nut a nl (,•:`t 1/i :,'. rYti't ( • peeele, it is; all right with t^.. T will ?cat. . J'c)r till t. t.( I would hca1--• t'L 't ;': - would roCO:t!t_'•nd c' 1.t 1'i .•.,— First. or all, evon i. 1- tli?i are a ?l.ora.da rid-n, 11, nee%L t '1 !)e at natio. ;ttly r'-.•C:o '.i:!eC: f i l'::1, 1. Liz'n' I. ¶ i:1L ;'ilr) Or.i.anc1f,, Ma. an::: just t%c)n.1ti L'. tod itself a y"tar and it lli''1t would :;n: 0 taut- th _q would have !Lid rj Xeci ll: tr?="nt F1 y^ 1.(1j1. tar t '.'it}lift :iv' last couple 0' pictr:; itfl i that they would hay.) lc):l:' 1:lurt> thin ona. I hop:! ti'' tior't Ctlt:l iri c: Lt.it ro;,,ubo y who ll.t:i nt..:vof clone any rec:rult!;;'snt for arty city or local tiov rnt tt'nt a;. co,clou; '1r• ''1=.lf)t', I"''lv 1 offer no711 naf^ rs of firm; that 1 is t.il,+L ail r, lull with you? tj Its .SAn ; 51976 P . -. Cl1): .1:1: !'11'ti. :C)'t Cl;7n, t ttl')lto i l:o the! d-t'(,`- - ' n )t. i n:1 ;il"t.11'']' tti ore (+oi n : to it<1V of , Yr.c au'A• '111,1t. 1t CIO t h'. un. 1 F; r.,i.iL`' to 'lead ,)roc . 1'1r '. "C' ::hou10 t-h'! tor'. 1)!lt. 'i:1' t jut ni1C1 11i11l ` 1. t''C oot" to cityn 1 r r!1-:' Ctf),1.!1Ct FM: 1))ti:iino. hay, to .silly, thin is the kincl. '! w..'re put: in ;: position the other cl ly whorl that ro';;pan_ie out of C:lli `orni F C.'tmo in h.erc' bi ldL11g ag 1i.n!4t t:h:: sound c;yst::rt. t"11t rsad.ly disturb_; tin in that wi could not write a sit of spies that didn't have! to comJ under the tin. t wai distr•ossnt that why didn't you ask loc.11 c,opl., to have sore input, in this case, It roant Mr Denby. I th911-11'-t Mr. non 'y should have writ':cn that gpoo, knowing what. ':e need and that this other marl, who-rv''r he wra3 couldn't Comte in qu•ist-ion.in�r. The man r;hnutci have a 3'"y�►r experience. The t;a;1 shouldrhav:• don-, x-nArh n' rit.i•-!s. should make that clrlar. 'I'hc!n, .,r) ,e, tL1t L.11 tjlo nurb^r of firms in there, I t'.on'tc r Plummer: I realiza there is d timJ-:ram. May I sugg::st that we turn it over to the Manager where if they have a name to profer, that he be instructed to receive the names from each individual commissioner and any names that he might add so we can have all these companies, get a price from them, what they would charge, their availability and maybe some background and that he come back next Tuesday since we are meeting again Tuesday and give a list of 5 or 6 firms, what the cost would be and a little capsule of their background. Rev. Gibson: If we don't do what. I am indicating, we are going to bo just like when Motorola was here. I don't always agrie with Rose but Rose is doad right. We ought to say we want a firm that has x/number- of years. :•i :yor Ferret 1 will recognize anyone who wants to .bake a motion. Mrs. Gordon: 3. will make a motion. I will riove yo'! Sir that tho "tanager be instructed to send out job descriptions, to send a letter to firms qualified for selection processes of fanauer and z would like to o.":er these na;):'cs as part of the motion - the Public Services Administration out of Chicago- who :corked for the City prior to Yarger. Yarger and Associates- located in Falls Church, Virginia. Callahan Company- Chicago Griffin, Laeger and 'r:roeger Company out of Chicago which has an affiliate company in Coral Gables those 4 and any others that the Commissioners wish to add to this list, that's the ttiotio:l. Mayor Ferret First of all lot !:la ask for a second and then I want to speak against the motion. Mrs. Gordon: Di:I I get a second? i' Cr_ re: 1 ai:l (joint;: to see if you got a second and then I .:alit to speeak i ttja Lr.3t gilt:: notion. Is there a s:tco:1'l to 1h' ;1'utir-,n. Hearin+? no sec041c1, t.hc! )1090n :firs fur lac'.•: or a born -:CI, now it is open for dif;cuflsio;. I t.h. tt the Cc,,'l;:ri ..lion sot c:,rtctin basic criteria t.hat each cur,I)any should ctu;:1! ry for. Then :terse, all i•-jtn;;e 11.d1 ::; C.til tJO. ti.:;.'c).. t':'1 ro; `1h. ... .1S now i-t ration by 1'•itt-h: t .' ':t his );u)i:ion t :8 i cc);-::li loll t;hc,:8ld toe.ly itc:ty Cao :3�)c;ci f-• t c.utli a:,•'in•j- Call t' run. .p • *tyor 1I(:A1 r..'C:O.ti+in `it (t) '' � Il ;:iol:ilj 1,. t •C+�):'� i t i r; .. .;o'r- it:; ;` i. 1 (2) rl'rl.;t. t!t .1 •.:.i11 tlil 31 IIi ..!;;t., :ta:" .l t LI:1r+1ti'tl ur 3 70:1t' (3) 'ih,it. t..._' . i rm h1ctvC tt;:at in C1ealitc.; with gov.'rn;;.:nt :t1t1 sp.:ciLic'+1ty in 1u:'; .. (' ..j 1 i. :�`l' .i:t .1.d2 "t:`.l'.3 be,:?r1 (4) 'C;�l��tL-.l>,� i rm t � - f.ttvolvu_i andu E ccos:4; ul lr co:-,pi:`.:1_t.: at l£'•.l.;i. 3 or 4 il:-i: fga::.cr t s in th`:t selection of .. . i! `lt:}t �:ctllcl�3t.'r :;t+. 'Yt: in i.11' U:;1tC'a :iti:l.:;i. t:rs. Cordon: 1 thin': you r.;i .:ht. iyt r. Il in', '`art'.ur Little out because in that analysi ; sh::et:, they '1.!ct t-ore '.ssist:'nt 'tana^ors than they had Managers and also within tho last 2 year:;, thereyin not even a certainty that any mf thoshiiv2 selncted Atar agcrs. Mayor Ferro: All right mate it the last 5 years - Mrs. Gordon: That they had bcen involved in the selection process of high level governmental offi.cials, might to a bettor criteria bc2cause they also '::ere involved as i road it in tho selection of Chiefs of Police. Mayor Ferret t am r.erfectly willing that whoaver we choose, in the last few years has had som^ exp^r_ icnc2 in choosing a City Manager. That it isn't somebody who just co: -.as out of the blue and all of a sudden, thy arc' e::p:_rts in choo:.ing City r.:tragcrs. I think we have to specify that t.h^y have :lone this beio.re. 1 clont care i ' you want to a?'.:)'::ir 1 it and raise it 3 years. t''S • (+C`t • '1. t .c' it In r .' . .:.I. t- is t.; c :iC-..C:1CC_ :.iyit.:.'c don' this 8 or 7 years <i' 7 r.,. T tLi.n% it has to tact so;;t-,body 1 .. '.', .'. i/,i>; t'.c►r,. t it i :; in t ne 1.:nt 2 or 3 y. ars. In t :. . 1 ,!r,t 1 y.'rr i .i .:i't:l i i j'C:-; .'ant Lo nay in hiring City t1.'nou !rs, : ;':ii:'L.tnt City '1?n:r ur`-". :Intl to actaini.St:rattor:; iIn local ;ovarn.:''.:t• Mr. Plummer: I mike a notion that t''e once again turn this pronoas over to the City Manager to come back to this Commis 4ion n^axt Tuesday with a recommendation of no less than 3 firms, r:n more than 6 firms with which ho can do a bac::grour.'1 check, got a cost ostiriate -- iiayor Ferret 7 will rule that motion out of ordor bucau_to we have just previously votai to write the specifications. note that that motion has passe , ;72 h:lvt3 to reacin i the Lar_vious ;%otio 1. nr. . a 1.idrTm: 1 will i:ithlra?w talc I.'otic33`.. I am just won'iorinq hc•, we ea -a coo j to ;elect a City 71anag2r Alan '':^ c .t't a:.'•1C?'7t: it. firm to :',{'1.;..•L the City �:" } ct;liitjCr. 'irs. oordont 1. will go with 1-1 or the thins you it:tv : outlir2''tl but if you will no the 3 to 'i i:n:' 1 h::v..' no of h-o r r :?il:;.')n c>:.' .)t: tJizt;: rro- t•..' pr•`c : ill i •o '. " a � .IC%i 1. St 2 •..:l.il . ••...• 'r2 1 . / %.. . Y r ! r :r1 City ♦ ♦ t(i t• ' r`a• t: nt I i+i.. ci .. i' J ��:•il :i. .1 I�.•t. �� ii• i+ i.� .�I'��.,-�. r, •i.. fi i City 'i o +tt.•:l 1tAl:.1. Do you :,;1.1 th IL - in t1 t or it motion? is ttl•'ra: .s :;::C:und? The lowinj :aet.i.on war i nt rodue,:.1 Gordon who itov<•4 it..i ados t.iva: I4!I15 MS `l JL't.,'. 75-69 CR1.'t'1.t?t', 1n k.. r)I' t. i !:1 TO TO Tit:, t, ,.,•; i .. '.':)'. tt7PLTCr"ti:I'1'. ii OF Ci'1'i A,; FOLLC)':S: (i ) Ui; ;J;,'I• L`: (:, ) rile i.iy EXr'.`i'I' ;C•r f (3) T1I.'.',, Tit:; I•'ti?.'i it',VI: I:';t'.; .t • i)1:,\Lt'Ir I'Clt C i'•'t:,:'3?�ii:`:'i' ,,, . CMET:'I't'NT: (1) 'i'llYP ,`lli. rJ. Pit';: i•..': T 1IWI SUCCL",i i•ULI,`: Cn'!;'1 tT;;U, FOR THE tIE'LIICTIO': 01' : CI LEVEL 11I),•ttNJ:'TRATOR I' STATES I'V . . ;'i' 1 Y: /• '; •IN . +,t.`' i. 'T.a) Gibson, the motion was '1 ;�• i i.� t1•::! `. ol1c:•,tinr,j vote - AYES: 1+1ossr3. n,.;o, Gibson, ".rj. C'ordon and Mayor Forr. a. tiO::S: Mayor Ferro: I am now turning over the gavel to Rose Cordon and c•:i11 now recommend a motion th(it th.3 City o' ?•1i .t•:Ji .,ccept the offer of ?.rthur D. Little Inc. .,:; ru1)- t i J. nutry 1 3th. Mrs. Gordon: t'7e11 we jut riad': ane)t'!! T,')• J �; :. Mayor Ferro: Mrs, Cordon, this is a 1^,ii r. 1 itt i e proces. t•'h.zt you do is you go up a ladder j'.ncl at this point - Mrs. Gordon: I think your motion is out of odder. I rule it out of order. Mayor Ferrr: I then request the City Attorney to rule on this matter because there is no reason why I cannot makt. a specific motion. Mrs. Gordon: Because the motion is in conflict with the previous motion directing the Miatnager to send out bids. Mayor Ferro: It did not direct the Manager. You only sanit the specifications. This nests the specifications, and T. rake the motion. Now do T have a right to clo tiu:t or not? Mr. Lloyd; Be has the right to make the rotion in my coinion because in his opinion, this firm meets the spocifi.co.tir'na. tt:.yor. Vorre: They tire in;::tion•1t firm. They hav4 lhon in business for more than 3 years, they are proficient in local goverjnt»nt ttnc! within 5 y:'4:S's, t1v ' hayhirod 1nrdi-- TIt•• Cordon: MI-. Clerk, what t•:a:; the i,otion prcc: in';i that eN. sl,o(:1 ` 1£.-:tinny,? !.1r. Seni 1v rn: V cLti n'_; 'It's. Cordon; No 14ra"'.('.(.'(1il9 that 'lotion, tlr,Southern; 'l'hat:. th.: City es ge,:3 + ri prcc,tt•t. si.Unctt fi.ri.: to tlo the varch for r l' luct i ng a . :1t.t'j •r for Ch.. City 01 • M17s. C;ordo.l; No !v:t ty:_-en t ha . and t13e next one ♦ `1'liw.r' was another one a.fi%inl iii.'.tt,lj''I. tU Lit: w 11 tyor ttl,:L :.Joti.(f,3 c1i(3 not ci:)1; ,, fsc!rsonfl. IIlt; It. tat' t•il itt•• r. oL.1 o . ti'• :loutU n; as' t: tic -It :l 1.? JAW 1 5 1174 • r''*'r `t I.'/ :.ott.l)il is I":'!r�-ct:ly clear. rllhtlro have 2.ecn .'i A. I (.;a.; ' . !C1 !. (1) That t•::1 ,.'O to .t pro f r`;4:4iona1 firm (2) Tilt s; !t ti:. crit:eriastoday (3) That sae net thn cr.ite?;.iti ana 1 is In I' 'rfc 't. ri ht. of 1°?_t+:inr3 try motion. !!%;. Crwloht You 11,tvc every right but What you - ro doing lir. •' : _ h,t ; in in r.y opinion, not in good to tc, I can't ticscri.by it itn•,. W.:11 r way. With the intent of this Co::tnins4 tin, •. i th all tau. convyr:;:tt_i0n proceding it., that you proc'c'. d on t.hi.:: b.1't ir, then yo%t h t`::', kt2'7'.,in,; full wryll the intr`nt csr' all c+1t1'.' .,.�ti...i.; t`.I.+t precluded your riot ion - you are in :tc t it'.q i21 • t,;,itiio'1- c:_.:l t t••oul in't do it. U 1c:.,. y.►1t 11a.1 1+ r : : 1 ., i f is t that you :,c r . ;c!ttinq t't . cr.i tt'ri.. '1 t' ' ,I i i':ty:►t.ion of' foll- owing this with a z't i ci;1 to at _Tit. ;'1 1 i i f irin, in my opinion you have . iJ''' a bid nt."t•:ikt`'. and you have misled this CG:" 'li ss i.:);1 . ':ayor Terre: I will probably Le voted down. How do you know? First, I don't have a second. rev. Gibson: Mr. ;Tanager, can we hear from these people within 10 days? Mr. Andrews: Yes. Rev.Gibson: Let ma express - Mr. Plummer: Excuse me Father, as a matter of procedurc, there is a motion on the floor - Mrs. Cordon: There is no second as yet. Well I'll ask if there is a second, reluctantly. I am only kidding. Thorn is no second, therefore the motion dies for lack of a second. Mr. Plummer: I now make the motion Mr, ?Mayor, that we turn this criteria over to the 'tanager with any input the Co).uniosi.oners wish to give and any other w•'11 known firms that he knows of and come back here next Tuesday and recommend to us, no less than 3 firms and no more than 6 firms for this Commission to make a decision. Rev. Gibson: I will second that motion. The following motion was introduced by ?•ir. Plummer who moved its adoptions ?MOTION 76-69 MOTION REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER, GERt, USING THE CRITERIA S::'T FORTH II: ?LOTION NO. 76-68, TO :V:\.i.-- UATE FIRMS SUGGESTED BY TIIN CO?i°.•iISSION1;RS AND MAYOR, TOGETHER WITH ANY OTIR RS HE FEELS I.Tt;7i' UL Q)UALI: .i:U AND REPORT TO TIW CO'T:• rs :iO'J OF NOT LESS THAN TamFIRMS NOR MORE 'i !I.'t!r :.r }.' r it'i S AND TO INCIaUDE TU' COST TO Ta1: CITY OF 1:"-.Cu o.•' THE I:1'1`O'.t:4ENDE) ?[11 1 :, AS WEL,1, AS ii t :; RI:CO1 ENDATIO:S IN ORDER U=' Pf.ORiTY Upon being t:c,:c.:1Jc'c: by 3'r.v.• t'nd Gibson, tho t:to::iot: was pa :od and ac!opt.c'ti by the #o1lc,:':i14', vote: - Avi: $ Pl u.xaer, T Iba:so, Ci::; o , I:,::;, Cordon and Mayor 1" i ro. Nona, Ns • .�' I 5 19/5 xly i•, t'•t r Ct• ; t, . 1 ! aY . • 1 rlr i.tiw P1riza, rain Francisco California Mr. Plu1 .i1 r: Mr. fi:nag'er, to your knowledge, was then: any firm in Miami or in South Florida, locally that does this? Mrs. Gordon: There is one Mr. Plummer that I know if. Its Griffin-Laeger and Kroger Co, who has an affiliate in Coral Gables and I VOULD like to say to you I know none of these people personally and any of the fines I have mentioned. Mr. Andrews: I am not going to answer your questions because I am not sure based on the criteria you have set. Some of the firms are in the process of assisting governmental agencies in selection but they don't necessarily jet involved - Mr. Plummer: sir. M•lanager, you don't. have to qo any f.trth; r.. You know riy feel in(j, if there is a local f i rr,1, first and fore- most, T would rather with t!,rn. Rev. Gibson: Aad 1 don't wan,_ th' c!+:'1:+.i.1y to havo 3n burin;-s 2%, years find i n th• • pror't";:; , t.` it i ., not. t !1" r-.: llti I* :." •41:. Thi• rc'"lu i ror'. :nt is th !j t:}lt T"11:1! ..-0 i)t . !: ;,1 1,11. 11a'.,.. I t'at r:. • t'c'yor i'c'rr•.•: t i r c,:. .., .. ': i 1 1 • . •(, . • ,._ , •I) : thcr pi- vi one '1'. �. .;�> .1: '' '� ,!, ,. a ask the Co.:1. so that - Mra . Cordon: Th : ition is !or tli:, ?•:-:;Yager to ask each of t1ac th,' cast f.tc t{err. Mayor i'cr. rc: And also that you grade then. 1 don't_ want to get G firm,. Personally I would like for you to say, thin is my first recommer.eiation. Mrs. Gordon: I want to have an opportunity to choose. lls opinion is one and mine is another. t don't have to be told:,w.,i• I think if those firms fall in the top G category thoy are qualified and that c.ught to be enough for u:;. 3 to G and 1 don't want his.) t.o te1.l. r.ia, ►,fl.C.0 and 4110 I want to h:. able to choo' w (t:t!)4! . .:Z' pressures 1pplic(1 to ma by anyone. .., .: or i'.•rr,:: t 21 ". i. • 1,.:•,t., r7;.i'1ii)'•1. t .1.. ! : ..Cordon t 'et! • h • .1 the i•tailatgs r e i.v: us h i. s it i:, ;t).j)ro .:iat.s fo t1,c, 'al:►nc1,j.•r 1' i t }lc)'.it • 'iibno,i: I .r.,C'c!t1:14 t..'. . +. ) : k' cot t t ! t1 1:1,i•!+•r, t•,ct ild occord ll:,i t+1 i '.* f • 1:1 r!= ' : ; i .• • ... .,. V r• 111111 Mrs. (1ot`dc,3li th,11 the tt.in,lc7;'r has airr'ady (2::proSticd his opinion. do hay; rutr d oVcryl)oay out. thin r;o.:ninr so 1 `;tint: WhLttyou arc :;ayin' noW in .jty: t an eXercige in futility. If you are going to ask in what Co.npany in Numbcyriil, he has already f;aicl it today. lii.i opinion, then we don't have to go any further. 1 vote no on tthc: motion. CHANGE DATE: OP F' 1 R;; T : ii:E I::G rolt THE MONTH OF PRIMARY 1'976 The following motion wan introduced by Mr. Plummer who moved its adoption: MOTION 76-70 MOTION OF 1::•ri;NT •i':) Ci?:.NGr THE h:\'i'I: o1' THE Rl•;GULtAE !,1.:'i'1' 'i', .. ::')''LL) :;0!.',t,?.Y BE ln:LD Cr: E'1:517i l.' ,t 7 ;'C1 l'i .. !:' 10, 1976 Upon anl •".Jo'#1411111111‘.u..-1:-. : . '• .j. , t • 7-tit ion t:.1s {`.0 sed .;.• .. II l •t , it t L!1r.-t f i.ttca k for the i'i,'i'tint; or th 221.1. 1. •'." i:t able o meet:. Untort:ua.. t_t!ly, T •.•:.t.. ha c tiny with the peop1c. ir.v te,• 1 r. Tuesday a •G ;mission 1ioetint.1 . :fir. '.nJn:w::: Ti the nornin:.t, its the workshop of legis1.itiv:. ;j1d in the a; t(•rnoo!► the inplwm•nitation of tho Dept. of tt:C. •s tt• ''t ►;•-. i'1 '1r. r..t a,;, • r: it,:, rr of•hitrytt t-E•. 'r': titr' c)rU '- C' t}. •C .,*. ., • 1. t,:n Ole r )rnit); .til : t.!,,• 1 i . . i:, t.. • " 3 oaly can • " pi (•0. • t lld t 1 t: ±!! S t U r• t• .' ri•c)r F►•:'ri•: •i'it. • r .1 It t: • tit •('1• • tr t •Ytt.•:"••r 1ii 't it's. Ur.P ►t►• t t, t;. ; , 1:4 ()tit. • C I t C ' 1 C. �'�;,!l::.t •it2# City Clerk OOP moseissitifipt. • AN 1