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OF MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 28, 1977
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
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CHANGE DATES OF CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR MONTHS OF (See later 1 - 4
RES. 77-899)
DECEMBER AND JANUARY.
2. BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM ALLOCATION OF CITY COMMISSION DISCUSSION
BUDGET TO BE DISTRIBUTED 1/4 TO EACH COMMISSIONER.
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MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 28th day of November, 1977, the City Commission of Miami,
Florida, met at its regular meeting Place in said City in Special
Session to consider business of Public import.
The meeting was called to order at 1:10 o clock A.M. by Vice Mayor
Rev. Theodore R. Gibson with the follwoing members of the Commission
Present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Vice Mayor Rev. Theodore R. Gibson .
ABSENT: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ALSO PRESENT:
Joseph R. Grassie, City Manager
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Manager
George F. Knox, City Attorney
Ralph R. Ongie, City Clerk
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Theodore R. Gibson, who
then led those Present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
. CHANGE DATES OF CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR MONTHS OF DECEMBER AND JANUARY.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Vice nayor, for the record you have to stipulate for the record
that this is a Special meeting and the reason for the call.
Vice Mayor Gibson: All right. This is a special meeting and the reason is to change
the meeting dates, is that right?
Mr. Grassie: That is correct,Mr. Vice Mayor..
Vice Ma»nr (:ihsnn• All right. Sir. let us nroceed.
Mr. Plummer: T make a motion that the meeting date of December be changed from
December 8 to December 15.
Vice Mayor Gibson: All right. Under discussion, is there any? All right. Call
the roll.
The above MOTION was passed and adopted by unanimous vote.(See later RES. 77-899)
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that the meeting of ... that the second meeting of
December , the 22nd, be put on the 15 also which will comply with the Charter, at
7:00 o'clock in the evening.
Vice Mayor Gibson: Under discussion... that's a motion, is there a second?
Mr. Reboso: Second. The 22nd, instead of having two meetings we are going to have one.
Vice Mayor Gibson: All right, under discussion, is there any? All right, call the
roll, please.
The above MOTION was passed and adopted by unanimous vote.(See later RES. 77-899)
Vice Mayor Gibson: All right, so then all of our meetings in the month of December
will be on the 15th of December,is that right?
Mr. Plummer: But we are assuming that the meeting of January will be on the 12th.
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Mr. Grassie: We just want to make sure, Mr. Vice Mayor and members of the City
Commission, that the 12th which is the regular meeting in January is agreeable with
you because we want to make that firm for a Bond issue date . That would be the
date on which we will receive bids on the Bond issues and we want to make ,;ure that
we are going to have a meeting on the 12th of January.
Mr. Plummer: I move to adjourn.
Vice Mayor Gibson: No, he wants to take care of the 12th of January to deal with
the bonds, is that all right?
Mr. Grassie: That is correct, Mr. Vice Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, is that a regular scheduled meeting?
Mr. Grassie: It is. I just want to make sure at this point that we can advertise
that date and that nobody has a conflict that we can't meet on the 12th and that
we are not going to change it.
Mrs. Gordon: Can we have any discussion on any other items now or has anybody any
objections?
Vice Mayor Gibson: Well, let's finish to 12. J. L., is the 12th all right with
you,on January 12? The Manager would like to advertise.
Mr. Plummer: As far as I am concerned....
Vice Mayor Gibson: How about you, Mr. Reboso? How about you, Rose?
Mr. Plummer: Oh...wait a minute. Now, not the 12th, I am going to the Super Bowl.
Mrs. Gordon: What's the date of it?
Mr. Plummer: Well, the Super Bowl is on the 15th but I am leaving on the 12th.Could
you have it on the llth? llth is fine with me.
Vice Mayor Gibson: All right, J. L., is the llth all right with you?
Mr. Plummer: The llth is all right with me.
Vice Mayor Gibson: How about you, Mr. Reboso? What about you, Rose? What about
the Mayor?
Mr. Grassie: We will have to call him, Mr. Vice Mayor, and check with him. We'll
do that.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that the meeting of the 12th be made over to January
the llth.
Vice Mayor: We want to wait, he is supposed to be ckecking with the Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, if we approve on the 15th the beer in the Orange Bowl,
will it be there for the Orange Bowl game? 30 days?
Mr. Grassie: You know, what's really going to delay, Commissioner, is the question
of working out some agreement with the concessionaire.
Mr. Plummer: Hut from what I have read in the Miami Daily News, you can to ahead
and start negotiating.
NOTE: Mayor Ferre entered the meeting.
Mr. Plummer: I made a motion that the meeting of January the 12th be moved to
January llth.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second. Call the roll.
The above MOTION was passed and adopted by unanimous vote.(See later RES. 77-899)
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Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, may we ask the Manager a couple of questions about the
budget,when we are supposed to adopt it and this and that, okay? To get it in the
public record.
Mr. Grassie: As you know, Commissioner, we had anticipated doing that on the 8th,
now we have just gone to the process of changing that meeting so it will have to
be the 15th.
Mrs. Gordon: I'm sorry, I was....
Mr. Grassie: I said that our original schedule, Commissioner was that we would do
that on the meeting on the 8th but since we have just changed that meeting to the
15th we will have to do it on the 15th.
Mrs. Gordon: Right, and could be a marathon day. You mean we are going to have
budget hearing on the 15th? or whatever....
Mr. Grassie: No, we would have budget hearing before then. We are going to have
to set those up as separate meetings,probably, I don't think that you can do it on
the same day, I think we can adopt it on the 15th but hopefully we'll have a chance
and it really depends on finding everybody in the city at the same time.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I am not following you, would you be a little clear for my bene-
fit, before then, when? You know, I don't know about the other people here but the
first part of the month, I'm not even going to be in town until the 13th, so when
are you talking about?
Mr. Grassie: That is exactly the kind of problem we are running into with people's
schedules. If nothing else, we may have to do it the 14th, you know, if we can't
get everybody's schedule....
Mrs. Gordon: Well, don't we need to make that decission today because that is the
meeting that we would have to advertise, you know, public meeting.
Mr. Grassie: I know that Lupe has been trying everybody's schedule together now
for about tao weeks and ....
Mayor Ferre: We all are here together n)w.
Mr. Grassie: ....they've changed.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, if we don't make that decission now, then we can't deal with it
because we have already cancelled the 22nd of December and there is no meeting until
January llth.
Mr. Grassie: Well, we would be delighted to have the 14th confirmed if you feel
that you can do it.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, that's all we need to do then, let's find out if each of us
confirms it. Can we meet early in the morning like 8:30? Because at 1:00 o'clock,
Maurice....
Mayor Ferre: Plummer is that all right with you, on the 14th at 8:30 A.M.? All right,
Rose Gordon makes a motion, Gibson seconds it, further discussion on setting an
8:30 meeting for the purposes of hearing the budget on the 14th, is that correct?
Mrs. Gordon: Right. I would like the minutes to reflect that I have to leave at
12:45 to make a speech and I can be back at 2:30 so I'll be gone for that period
of time.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second. Call the roll on it.
The above MOTION was passed and adopted by unanimous vote, and was later
formalized by R-77-899, as follows, which Resolution incorporated all preceding
City t,uwmissiun mutiuus unaugiug Lite uteeLiug uates.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 77-899
A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF
DECEMBER 8, 1977 TO TAKE PLACE ON DECEMBER 15, 1977; FURTHER ESTABLISH-
ING THE DATE OF DECEMBER 14, 1977 AS A SPECIAL MEETING TO CONSIDER THE
1977-78 APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE; FURTHER RESCHEDULING THE DECEMBER 22,
1977 MEETING TO TAKE PLACE AT 7:00 P.M. ON DECEMBER 15, 1977; AND FURTHER
RESCHEDULING THE JANUARY 12, 1978 MEETING ON JANUARY 11, 1978.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
2. BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM ALLOCATION OF CITY COMMISSION BUDGET TO BE
DISTRIBUTED ONE FOURTH (I/4th) TO EACH COMMISSIONER.
Mrs. Gordon: I would like, since we are going to be out of town, I spoke to Mr. Grassie
this morning and he gave an indication that he will have some material —you will have
material ready sometime today for us to be able to become acquainted with which
are alternatives for us to consider. And if we have it this far in advance,at least,
we can then have an opportunity to really delve into it while we are out of town;
at least if I will anyway.
Vice Mayor Gibson; can t:hf huaget, let me ask a question, Mr. Mayor. I want to put
this on the record --,does the Commission have a budget? or is it at the Manager's
budget.
Mr. Grassie: Well. every department of the City has a budget which is included in
the City budget and there are also separate budgets, Commissioner, for the Office
of the Mayor and for the City Commission, for the Office of the City Commission
together.
Vice Mayor Gibson: How much money?
Mr. Grassie: I will have to look in the budgets.
Vice Mayor Gibson: What I am after_is that I want ix of that money for the Com-
mission's budget to come to 'Theodore but I must...in other words, I want an allo-
cation of 1 of that budget to Theodore Gibson.
Mr. Plummer: Let's get the record clear, Father. I understand, what I think he
is saying, Mr. Manager, and I concur, he is saying that the Commission budget is
delegated for X number of dollars. Now, what he is saying is he wants individual
budgets es a line item under that.If tl follow what I'm saying and what he is saying.
He doesn't want...you don't want the money to come to you, Father.it's understood.
Vice Mayor Gibson: I don`_t want the money to come to me, all I want it earmark,
Theodore Gibson, in other words, if you have $500,000 for the Commission, a $125,000
ought to be....well,.I... let's say...okay, I was... a $100,000--that's more than
I have-- I want to be able to make sure that Theodore Gibson can spend $100,000. .
that is not go and spend it, but at least is earmarked that Theodore Gibson can have;
sake, -:And I don't mean in that sense. For instance, I don't think that the Com-
mission budget ought to be spent by one or two people, they ought to be spent by
the four of us. that's what I'm saying. You understand what I'm...let's make sure
because I don'_t plan to have no foolishness later on.
ftr. Grassie: Possibly, the way can handle what you are talking about is to treat
-each Commissioner as if be were a....
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Mrs. Gordon: Separate account.
Mr. Grassie: ....division.
Vice Mayor Gibson: That's all right with me... and set aside my $100,000, that's
all I'm saying and let me buy typewriters, adding machines, phonographic literature,
and any of the other out of my $100,000, that's what I'm saying.
Mr. Plummer: He said photography....
Mayor Ferre: You were misunderstood....you and your dirty mind.
Mrs. Gordon: There is no problem in that, Mr. Grassie.
Mr. Grassie: No, setting them up as separate accounts.
Mrs. Gordon: Set each one up with their budget and then we'll see who saves the
most money at the end of the year. How about that?
Mr. Grassie: The only thing that...well, I won't even guess about that..I'm assuming'
that we probably every year we buy a typewriter for some Commissioner office, you
know, we'll have to work that up but we'll work it up, don't worry about that.
Vice Mayor Gibson: Well, we all have typewriters now. If somebody steal them, the
City goes to the Insurance Company and get reimburesed, so we all start all for an
equal foot and that's what I'm talking about. So I don't have two and somebody else
has three, and if you want to buy three okay. I may be more economical than you,
that's what I'm talking about.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay, do you need a motion on that, Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Grassie: No, Ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay, then that is understood.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Anything else to come before the Commission?
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, on the December 1st , would you have one of your staff
perhaps Clark Merril, attend the League of Cities meeting since I will be out of
town and my alternate --Father Gibson will be busy with his church business-- that
we'd be represented?Is that okay? If Merril can't do it somebody else....He received
the copy of the Agenda so he is familiar with everything.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'll just give you this for the matter...Rose, the Commission
must decide this year who will be on the Board of Directors of the Florida League
next year because I will have to come off.
Mrs. Gordon: I would like to ask you...
Mr. Plummer: Do you want it? Fine.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, because I'm serving now with the Dade
liaison to the State.
Mr. Plummer: But assuming the -things go right I will be
this coming year and I must come off of the Board of Dir
League and there is a
the president on October 1,
ectors.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, you mean the next year, J. L.? Are you still representative until
next October?
Mr. Plummer: Until October.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh,well, then we've got -lots of time, I thought you meant right now.
J. L. is going to be our president, I'm going to tell you, I'm real proud of the
fact that you are going to be our president. No, we haven't had a president from'
this area, Mhve we?
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Mrs. t'lummer: No.
Mrs. Gordon: No. It's the very first time.
Mr. Plummer: The first time in Dade County.
Mrs. Gordon: Absolutely. The Florida League is really moving, they got a woman
president and now they are going to have a Dade County president.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Commission, on motion
duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 1:30 P.M.
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
City Clerk
MATTY HIRAI
Assistant City Clerk
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CITY OF Mi/!.MI
ITEM NO.
DOCUMENT
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
MEETING DATE:
November 28, 1977
COMMISSION
ACTION
RETRIEVAL
CODE NO.
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COMISSION AGENDA Z\ND CITY C' EM: RI:PORI'
PJ SCI IEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF
DECEMBER 8, 1977 TO TZ\KE PLACE ON DECEM!3ER 15, 1977
R-77-899
77-899
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