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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1977-11-10 MinutesCT 1 • ..J111•••111= 111111.11 =1•1•11MS7= .momessesmi INCORP ()HATED 18-e' 96 OF MEETING HELD ON November 10, 1977 PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK CITY HALL RALPH G. ONGIE CITY CLERK 1.1049E- IT�'1 NO, • 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6, 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 4 CITY INDEX S OF GULAR (3 i ISSIGOF MIAMI, Ei ORItDA PROPOSED CREATION OF SPORTS AUTHORITY ;.'ITH MtAi-UFOLITAN DADE COUNTY. COMMISSION REVIEK OF PROPOSED A,,EnMENT BETKEEN DIPLOMAT WORK EI'ERPRISES FOR WATSON ISLAND. APPROVE AGREUMNT FOR CUSTOM BROKER AND FREIGHT FORWARDER SERVICES FOR TRADE FAIR OF THE AMERICAS. DISCUSSION OF SOCIAL SERVICES FUNDING FROM E'WERAL REVENUE SHARING. CITY ATTORNEY'S ANNUAL REPORT. AUTHORIZE SALE CF FURNISHIMS OF DALLAS PARK HOTEL. CORRECT PUBLIC RECORD ON ORDINANCE CONCERNING CAI FEES S AND GOLF CARTS (ORDINWCE #8728) . APPOINT COMISSIONER W,NOIO REOSO AS VICE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI. . CITY MANAGER REPORT a 1 LABOR NEGOTIATIONS AND CITY O MISSION'S DIRECTION TO PERC. BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: SALARIES OF CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK CITY'S REPRESENTNTION AT SUPER:Ba9L IN J1 UARY, 1978. PRESENTATICC CIF DESIGN MODEL FOR THE NEW CITY AIVINISTRATION BUILDING. FIRST & Sloss m READING ORDINANCE: REPEAL SECTIONS 30-14 AND AMEND 30-28 OF THE CITY CODE EN ARGING DEFINITION OF "EXHIBITION LICENSE" AT DINNER KEY AUD. 14. Ebb' ORDINANCE: M KING CERTAIN APPROPRiATICNS 70 VARIOUS PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AGENCIES RECEIVING E WEP.AL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS. 15. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND ORDINANCE 8707-PROVIDE INCREASE IN DEPARTMEgrAL APPROPRIATIONS CHARGEABLE TO FISCAL YEAR 1977-1978. 16. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMELD SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE 8719 - ESTABLISH 7 NEW THFUST AND AGENCY FUNDS, RESUJRCES & APPROPRIATIONS FOR TFMR OPERATION. 17. DISCUSSION ITEM: RAPID TRANSIT PEOPLE MOVER SYSTEM. 18. ACCEPT CamF'IETED WORK: URBAN MIN : -PARK - 40 W. FIJLER 19. AUTHORIZE C. iY M - POST, BUCKE S , SC:HUH & JERNIGAN , INC. (TO PRCYJIDE LAND D, AERIAL SURJEYING & SOT7 S TESTING SERVICYS FOR THE WA i50N ISLAND PROJECT. 20. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER 70 ENTER INTO CSJNSENT ORDER NO. 93 OF TiiE STATE OF FLA. PRJVIDINCT CITY OF MIAMI MAY CONTINUE OPERATING VIRGINIA }EY RUBISH DISPOSAL PIT 21. CIONF'IRMING REOLUTION: APPOINT PATRICIA KOISII AS IvalBER OF 'I ZOINING BQARD. 1 M- 77-864 M- 77-865 R- 77-866 DISCUSSION PRESEKI'ATION M- 77-867 M- 77-868 R- 77-869 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION PRESENTATION Ord. 8721 Ord. 8722 Ord. 8723 Ord. 8724 DISCUSSION R- 77-871 R- 77-872 R- 77-873 R- 77-874 PAGE NO. 1-3 3-9 10 11 - 14 15 15 - 17 17 - 18 18 - 19 20 - 25 26 27 27 - 37 38 39 40 41 41 — 4 42 43 43 44 J0��1.G1977 • !NO CFPCOMMISTAENIAMI`, FLORIDA ITEM Mi SUBJECT rINANCE Off KKEESOLUTION No, 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. '33. 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. CONFIRMITZ RESOLUTION: RE -APPOINT H. CORDON WILLIE 'I OFFSTREET PARKING BOARD. CONFIRMING RESOLUTIC : RE -APPOINT DIANE SMITH TO THE OFFSTREET PARKING BOARD. CREATE AND ESTABLISH THE YOUTH ADVISORY corral r.E . AUTHORIZE PURCHASE IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION - RESIDENCE AND LOT AT 91 N. E. 62 STREET. ACCEPT DEED OF DEDICATION RIGHT-OF-WAY ABUTTING N. E. 80T:H TERR. NEAR N. E. 2ND AVENUE. DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATING TO GRANT E1SEtEIT FOR ACCESS TO THE PALISADES GEOPHYSICAL INSTITUTE, INC. AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURE OF $1, 500 TO IMPLEMENT PIVOT PROJECT KNOWN AS "CREATIVE CURRENTS" FOR MURALS ON IN COCONUT GROVE AREA. DISCJJSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE ABOLISHING CITY OF MThMI LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. AUTHORIZE CITY MANW1ER TO ENTER INM AN AGREEMENT WITH FOOD SERVICES, INC. -CONCESSION 'SSION RIGHT'S AT NEW MIAMI POLICE DEPAR1 E T. ACCEPT PLAT: PLAZA 'VENETIA" - PHASE I - 545 N. E. 15TH STKt:t r. ACCEPT PLAT: DEL MAZO SUBDIVISION. ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL DRAIN PROJECT E-41. ACCEPT BID: ELECTRONIC CALCULATORS. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: HERBE RT HILLER - FARMERS' MARKET. BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK. PLAQUES, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL IT-S. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: HERBERT T.F.F SII'C CONCERNING PARKING LOT LIGHTING. DISCUSSION ITEM: REQUEST CITY MAID TO EXPLORE ! CORRECTIVE MEASURE✓ TC C7TIAN UP DOWNTOWN PRIOR TO 1 CHRISTMA.S SHOPPING SEASON. AUTHORIZE ZE CITY v ,NA= TO ENTER INTO AGREMIENT WITH WRLIJ TRADE CENTER, INC. APPODIT : EVNA C HAVEZ , EIN L . KEL OM & LUCBECIA GRANAD? AS ramas CF 2IiE MIAi r Cawza.SSION TO THE STAID OF v CMEN. SECOND READING ORDIt'� NCE: RE-ESTABLISH CITY CIF NII7MI AFFIWATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD. DEFERRAL OF ONSIDERATION OF DFIPTI 3 SECTION 39-9 OF THE CITY CODE AND ENACTING NEW SECTION 39-9 - "ChTLDREVS CREATIVE EXPO PROGRAM." R- 77-875 R- 77-876 PAGE NO, 44 45 R- 77-877 45 R- 77-878 46 R- 77-879 46 iDEFERRAL 47 R- 77-880 48 TEMP. DEFERRAL 48 R- 77-881 49 R- 77-882 49 R- 77-883 50 R- 77-884 50 R- 77-885 51 PERSONAL PEARANCE 51 - 52 DISCUSSION 52 PRESENTATIONS 53 M- 77-886 53 - 56 DISCUSSION R- 77-887 R- 77-888 Ord. 8725 M- 77-889 56 57 - 63 64 - 65 66 67 - 68 "InV INLEX CITICCOM'�ISSIO�J OF M�IAMRIUA ITEM N0. 44. SUBJECT AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR EASEMENT - PALLISADEE GEOPHYSICAL INSTrarrE, INC. 45. DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF THE ABOLISHMETI' OF THE CI OF MIAMI LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. 46. DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF PLAT ENTITLED - BEGONIA VILLAS. 47. ACCEPT BID: 'IWD METAL STORAGE BUILDINGS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. . 48. URGE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES COMMISSION TO TAKE NECESSARY ACTION TO D P Di b CONSENT ELECTION OF CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. 49. MLSC. DISCUSSION ITEMS: A) SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM; B) WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK; AND C) DISCUSSION OF OFFICE SPACE FOR THE VICE -MAYOR. 50. PE 1AL APPEARANCE: ASSISTANT CHIEF KLIMKCUSKI AND AL HOWARD - EUFrIFiER DISCUSSION OF WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK. 51. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: LT. DON MARCH, FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE RE COMPENSATION PAID TO OFF -DUTY POLICE OFFICERS. 52. BRIEF DISCUSSION: SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE DECEMBER 8, 1977 MEETING. t01� SOLUTION No, I tVANCE R- 77-890 DEFERRED DEFERRED R- 77-891 R- 77-892 M- 77-893 PERSONAL APPEARANCE PERSONAL APPEARANCE DISCUSSION PAGE N0, 68 - 69 69 - 70 70-71 71 - 74 75 75-78 78 - 80 80 81 NOV 1019771 MINUTES OF REGULAR MELTING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMi, FLORIDA * * * * * * ►. ON TH; 10TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 1Y77, THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, VL RID , MU AT ITS REGULAR MEETING PLACE IN THE CITY HALL, 3500 VAN AMERICAN DRIVE, MIAMI, bLORIDA IN REGULAR SESSION, THE MEETING W4S CALLED TO ORDER AT 9:27 A.M., BY MAYOR FERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT: COMMISSIONER MANOLLO REBOSO COMMISSIONER J. , PLW MMER, JR, COMM SSIONER OSE bORDON VICEMAYOR (REV,) THEODORE R, GIBSON ALSO PRESENT WERE: JOS PH R. GRASSIE, CIT MANAGER K. L t-OSMO N, ASSISTANT ITY MANAGER (37,ORGE I-, KNOX, LITY TTORNEY tALPH G , ONG I E, L I TY CLER MATTY HIRAI, ASSISTANT CITY LLERK AN INVOCATION WAS DELIVERED BY REVEREND GIBSON WHO THEN LED THOSE PRESENT IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE TO THE FLAG, A MOTION TO WAIVE THE READING OF THE MINUTES WAS INTRODUCED AND SECONDED AND WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, 1, PROPOSED CREATION OF SPORTS AUTHORITY WITH METROPLITAN FADE COUNTY, Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, has asked me to recognize her for a pocket item regarding the Orange Bowl, which I said I would providing its not a controversial thing. If it is controversial and we get into a heated discussion, then we'll put it off for later on in the day. Mrs. Gordon: I want to be very brief Mr. Mayor, because I don't want it to be a controversial item any more than it already is, but I do want at least to say that with the strong showing by the people, of the disinterest in carrying the full burden of the redevelopment of an Orange Bowl, I think it behooves us to recognize the fact that we are only a part of a large community of Dade County, that we past a resolution advising Dade County of our interest in a cooperative efford in the development and or redevelopment of the Orange Bowl. I don't want to go into great details but there are a number of funding sources available to the County other than advalorem taxes. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion on the floor, is there a second to the motion? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I just want to add one more thing for clarificati, so my fellow Commissioners will know what direction I'm moving. Mr. Plummer: Please do. Mrs. Gordon: The movement is a sports authority to be created, composed of City and County persons and that the Miami Stadium, which we presently own, be--- in my opinion--- liquidated and that the sports authority address itself to a development of both football and baseball, on an expanded site in the Orange Bowl. area. I mentioned that the funding 1 I III'lu!PIIRli NOV i 01977. Sources, the tourist tax, the producon of between 21 and 5 million dollars a year will become available to the County and I would urge them to put this matter on there next Commission agenda and that they then place it on the next referendum, which is the county wide referendum they expect to have some time the end of February or early part of March and that would be a part'of the intent of the resolution. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion, is there a second to the motion? Is there a second to the motion? Mrs. Gordon: As further clarification and to alleviate the fears that there maybe that we're giving away the Orange Bowl per say, we must recognize the ability to pay for the improvements and we can't do it in the City. We can retain the title to the lands, we can arrange a lease with the County so that the City would then still remain in ownership of the lands. The authority could receive the funding for the expenditures and from the revenues. There is a multitude of ways that we can operate together if only we will open our mind and our hearts to a a cooperative efford. While we're waiting for the Mayor, I did want to mention if I haven't already said so, that the land that the present Miami Stadium sits on would be a valuable piece of land to be sold and the funds from that particular sale could be utilized for the additional land acquisitions that would be needed in the--- for the Orange Bowl. Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to Mrs. Gordon's motion? No, no we're not going to go into a long deal, this is an out of pocket type of a thing, its not suppose to come up, I did it out of courtesy to Commissioner Gordon, I told her if it was controversial we weren't going to take any time on it, its 9:30 we're a half hour behind, now is there a second?--- simply yes or no--- if there isn't its dead, is there a second? For the last time is there a second? Hearing none then this matter is dropped for lack of a second. Mr. Plummer.: Mr. Mayor, I would like to offer a motion at this time. Mayor Ferre: As long as its not controversial J.L., because otherwise, we're going to go on to the Diplomat World Enterprise Limited concerning Waston Island Agreement, item A. Now, if you're going to get into a long discussion --- now and its not controversial, I'li recognize you. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't know how what I'm going to say is going to be controversial until I say it. Now, very simply I would / like to make a motion at this time that the Mayor, form a Committee from the City to speak with the County in relation to a sports authority. Under discussion it doesn't refer any giving or Mrs. Gordon: I'm not going to take pride of ownership and offering a resolution Plummer, so if you're willing to talk to the County, I'm willing to second your motion and get this on the table and let this thing get on the road. Mr. Plummer: Alright, there we have it. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second, is there further discussior. Mr. Plummer: Just for the purposes of discussion. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second that the Mayor, be authorized to appoint a Committee, is there further discussion? Mrs. Gordon: In the discussion I would like to ask the Mayor to include the Commission in the Committee, I think it might... Mayor Ferre: Now look, I'm not going to do that, so you're either going to give me the right to do it or you're not going to give me the right and if you give me the right, then I'm the one who is going to decide who's going to be on the Committee and who's going to do what, so now you know... Mrs. Gordon: Will you clarify what you mean by you're not going to 2 NOV i 01977 do what. Mayor Ferre: Look the Motion simply giv€:,, fife a Committee. the authority to appoint Mr. Plummer: Thats right. Mayor Terre: Now, yes or no? Mrs. Gordon: Ok, and I asked you if you would include the Commission, you said you would not. Mayor Ferre: Oh no I didn't say that, I said that thats---you give me the authority and then I'll decide who's going to be on this r Committee. ff Mrs. Gordon: Ok, on discussion and whether you include it in the motion or not, I'm asking you as the Mayor of this City to include those members of this Commission, who wish to be a part of that negotiation and I hereby.direct you to know that I am interested. Ok. Mayor Ferre: Ok, I will take it into consideration if the motion passes. You have my promise that I will give you serious consideration. Mr. Plummer: In which way? Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 77-864 A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO MEET WITH COUNTY AUTHORITIES TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CREATION OF A SPORTS AUTHORITY AND APPOINTING COMMISSIONER J. L. PLUMMER, JR., AS CHAIRMAN, AND COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON AND JOSEPH R. GRASSIE, CITY MANAGER, AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 2. COMMISSION REVIEW OF PROPOSED AGREEMENT BETWEEN DIPLINT WORK ENTERPRISES FOR WATSON ISLAND, Mayor Ferre: Alright, now we're on item A. Mr. Grassie. Mr. Grassie: In the last meeting of the City Commission, Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission, you have indicated that you wanted some specific changes made in the agreement with Diplomat World Enterprises, those changes have been made and I would like to have John Gilchrist review those with you, the other thing that you asked at that time was that we have fire counsel and the CPA firm for the City, Peate, Marwick, Mitchell review this. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, so that we can avoid somebody else popping a question, will you give to the Commission a copy of the previous documents that we worked on in case anybody wants to refer back, even though I know its been done four times, so do it again and make sure 3 NOV i 31977. you have it available so that there is no questions to what the procedure is. Mr. Grassie: Yes, we have those available for anyone who wishes them Mr. Mayor. Mr. Gilchrist: I'm sorry Mr. Mayor, which item did you want? The original resolution of terms. Mayor Ferre: No, I'm just saying that if anybody needs to have the original submission or the second or what have you, then it should be available. Mr. Grassie: But at this point, what I would like John to do is to go through the specific things that the City Commission raised and so that you will see where they have been inserted into the document --- into the new document that you have in front of you. Mrs. Gordon: Before we do that just let me ask two simple questions please. You have had consultation with the bond counsel. Mr. Grassie: That is correct. Mrs. Gordon: And the bond counsel's advise in council is incorporated into the stock agreement, correct? Mr. Grassie: Now do we have any letter or documents from bond counsel' to you or to us. Mr. Grassie: Yes we do and we can distribute that to you now if you'd like. Mrs. Gordon: I'd appreciate that and the same thing holds through with the financial advisors, have you any--- incorporated their ideas into the contract. Mr. Grassie: Yes we have, they have not sent us a letter because the managing partner is in New York today and was yesterday, but on telephone contact he spoke with me and with Mr. Gilchrist, they have given their assurance and I believe also possibly with the Mayor, they have given their assurance that they have no problems in having the City execute this document in this form at this time. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, just as a further clarification and the absence of ' written evidence of their interest in this contract, you state that they are satisfied that the financial arrangements as they are proposed in the contract are the best that they would recommend. Mr. Grassie: No mam, that is not what we asked them and that is not what they' re certifying, they are not making anv 1udaement aixInt the business terms of the agreement. Mrs. Gordon: Well, what else are they making judgement on? Mr. Grassie: Anything which would come within the normal purview of an external auditor. They are talking about the reasonableness of this agreement in terms of the function that they would perform as an auditor. Mrs. Gordon: Oh, Mr. Grassie, I think there has been a like of communication on the part of us and you then, it was my understanding and intent in the use of the expertise of the financial experts, that they so advise us and you that we were recie wing or were going to receive a contract which would provide the best possible financial arrangements within reason, that the City could anticipate and you are saying they didn't make any judgement on that at all. Mr. Grassie: They were not asked to nor would they really be in a position to. That judgement is really certified to through the process of having the City Attorney tell you that this agreement that in front of you is in conformance with the understanding that you already have, the agreement to agree that you already have 4 N O V 1 u i977, with Diplomat World Enterprises. Noc•., that agreement already adopted by the City Commission is the .Isis for the business terms that is in this agreement in front of you. Mrs. Gordon: Alright, let Mr. Gilchrist pre.reed then. Mr. Gilchrist: Changes that have been incorporated since the last Commission Meeting begin on page five of 'he contract that you have in hand and I'll go through these with you all. On the definition of City under N in the middle of the page, we have changed that to read City as use herein shall mean the City Commission, or the change was to put the City Commission in that position as requested during the earlier meeting. The next change is a change of wording on page nine, and article 11, small letter e, the entire prescription of percentage is changed to read, I'd like to go to item two there, it would clarify it, it reads 4% of all gross revenues if such gross revenues shall be greater than 20 million, but equal to or less than J0 million per , that was the original wording that appeared in the terms of agreement that was authorized by a resolution earlier by the Commission. The next change is on page 13, under article 19 in the first paragraph next to the last line, after the word obtain we added in the name of this City, otherwise that paragraph is the same as it appeared in the e,Arlier contract or000a1 at the Last CaTmission Meeting. On page 14, at the bottom of the page, the last sentence --- I'll read the sentence before I could clarify it--- the City agrees that City Manager may appoint the project record for Waston Island to assist the City Manager, in the function the report has described. Now, the new sentence is in the event that a municipal authority is created, the City Manager, the City Attorney and Project Director shall be included in the membership--- I believe this contract read differently on that item. The next change is on page 15, article 23 and what was added in there is on the second line--- says without the use of funds derived from advalorem sources--- the only change that was in that paragraph. The next change is on page 19, article 38, line 3--- was added in that contractor be bondable for an amount equal to the cost of the work to be performed. Next change is on page 19, article 41added at the end of that paragraph, I'll read the whole paragraphthe parties agreed to make any reasonable modification to this agreement, which will not materially adversely affect either of them, if requested so to do by any underwriter of the financing any lender and then we added City's bond approving counsel or City's independent auditor. Thats the extent of the changes that have been made. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question, it is being raised in the media that conceivably this is a wide open contract and as I go from right to left, I want the three of you to answer that charge. Mr. Grassie: Well, could we clarify... Mr. Plumper: I said right to left. Mr. Grassie: Yea, but can we clarify the question Commissioner, wide open in what sense? Mr. Plummer: I read it in the paper, said this is a wide open contract. Mayor Ferre: Ah, come on J.L. Mr. Plummer: I'm just asking, in your best judgement have.you cone everything you can to protect the City and its best.interest'in this project. Mr. Gilchrist: The answer -to that is yes J. L. Mayor Ferre: Is it a wide open contract in your opinion? Mr. Gilchrist: No sir. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox, is it a wide open contract in your opinion? Mr. Knox: No sir. N O V 1 01977. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, are you happy and satisfied that this is a very good contract and no better conri3ct could be negotiated and you are totally satisfied and totally recommend to this Commission to proceed with this developer and this contract. Mr. Grassie: I recommend that the City eemmission proceed with this contract, all of the other adjectives that you use Commissioner, has to be put in the context of the real world. Mrs. Gordon: Well, that leaves you a big hole for you to escape from. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, both of us have to go through the same hole, you know,--- the basic objective of the City Commission, as I understand it, is to have a successful project, now a successful project involves negotiating with a party on terms which are acceptable to the City, but also to the other party, that meanthat theoretically if the other party had no opinions about anything, you could have a project thats more favorable to the City. But thats not the real world. Mrs. Gordon: ok. Mr. Grassie: So if we're going to achieve your objectives, which is to have a project, we have to recognize their interest as well as our own. Now, within that context, what I'm saying to you is that the agreement is reasonable, it is in the long run, I think very favorable to the City, I think th(7:t it gives us the opportunity to have a project which will grow, which will expand and be a credit to the City and I think that in retrospect this City Commission and others will think that you have done something_ beneficial and wise for this community, that it is a judgement. Mrs. Gordon: Yea, well I was putting you on the spot. Mr. Grassie: I understand that. Mrs. Gordon: And I wanted you to answer it that way, I wanted you to say that I as City Commissioner, whole heartly endorse that you support and sign and go further with this contract as presented here today and you'll say that. Mr. Grassie: I'm saying that. Mrs. Gordon: Alright. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I've only got one other question and really what I'm doing is trying to clarify the record. Mr. Knox, I still read and I still heard the possibility that this City doesn't have the right by virture of ownership of this piece of property to even be negotiating. Now, my question--- I know you've given your opinion, your opinion is that the City does have the right, but to maybe prevent a time lag at a later time, is within the purview of this Commissi through you to go into court and tc, get a get a declaratory judgement from a court of which you would have to go to if questioner later --- I assume--- to get that thing eradicated now, :jiving this City--- you know, taking the cloud, the cloud is raised. Now, I don't care who answers this, I'm merely p,;ttinc it on the record, would we with the developer be smart to go in and ask for this, should we just leave it alone--- you know, where are we, I would just like somebody--- Mr. knox... Mrs. Gordon: Which are you refering to J.L., the Mr. Plummer: Well, there has been the question raised Rose, that this property was given to us by the state. Mrs. Gordon: You -mean the Mr. Plummer: Ok, and then that as such we the Commission don't have the right to enter in with Mr. Fine, to an agreement that they would prohibited by either deed restriction---- George you know what I'm talking about, the question has been raised--- now, all I'm saying 6 NOV 101971 rather than to let Mr. Fine, go down the road a year, spend all of this money in development and then some disgruntle person come forth and say lets take it to court and then everything gets held up for two, four, five years in court. Would we the City with Mr. Fine, be smart to go in and ask a court to settle that question right now so that it doesn't pop up later? Mr. Gilchrist: May I address that, if Mr. Knox can't? Mr. Plummer: Please do, really I'm doing it for your protection as well as our. Mr. Gilchrist: The state legislature in the last session spoke directly to this type of project and by amending the state statute they specifically established the public purpose in the development of theme and amusement parks and specifically authorized municipalities within this state to issue tax exempt bonds for such projects. Number 2 is that these issues, if they must be addressed, should only be addressed during the validation proceedings, at such time that the bonds are validated. Now, our counsel, the City's counsel, the City's bond counsel, all have made independent determinations that there is no insufficiency in the law that does exist, that should Prohibit us fran proceeding with the planning development and execution of this project. Mrs. Gordon: The only thing that worries me is that... Mr. Plummer: Rose please--- Mr. Knox, do you agree? Mr. Knox: Yes sir, the only question if any, would be the question of whether or not this project satisfies the so called public purpose and as Mr. Fine has indicated there has been a state statutes, which were adopted in the last session, which indicated that this kind of a project satisfies the public purpose requirement. Thank you. Mrs. Gordon: The only thing I started to say that worries me, is how much money is going to be expended in the planning process, which the City is really responsible for if a floor develops that prohibits the completion. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, that would take affect only if the project were a complete failure and the developer had to walk away and we were obliged to buy back what work they have done,... Mrs. Gordon: We're not realizing that. Mr. Grassie: Under that circumstance, assuming that circumstance and being aware of the fact that I needed to limit the liability of the City. Three months ago when we were in initial negotiations, I agreed with the developer that regardless of how high their cost could go that our liability for reimbursing any of those cost would not be more than $200,000. Mrs. Gordon: How much? Mr. Grassie: $200,000 would be the upper limit. Mrs. Gordon: Is that written into this contract? Mr. Grassie: I have a signed letter agreement from them that specifies that and I'll give you a copy of it if you wish. Mrs. Gordon: Well, wouldn't it be effective to put it in the contract? Mr. Grassie: Well, what we have done is made a specific agreement between the parties covering this one point, its an eventuality that we do not--- you know, we think its pretty remote, but in any event if there should be any question about it we have it specifically covered in a specific agreement which does not need to be interpreted and we feel that we are better protected. Mrs. Gordon: You think the letter is a better procedure than a addendum to the contract or an inclusion in the contract? • NOV 1 U 1977. Mr. Grassie: Well, because I have had this agreement with them while a lot of the terms of the contra-t have been in process of being worked out and this is not something that is subject to change as are some other provisions in here subject to change based on opinion of auditors or opinion of bond counsel or something of this type, you know, they could not expand ou- liability because we have a separate agreement on this. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Knox, from a legal stand point, the letter of willingness to limit liability to the City in the event of a collaspe of the project. Is that as effective and as strong a instrument---- is it satisfactory to you in defense of the position that there could possibly be a change of heart at same point later on, and a request made for a higher reimbursement. Mr. Knox: Now, the letter itself represent the manifestation of intention of Diplomat World to bound, the letter coupled with, the contract coupled with the representation made on the public record, would lend enforceability to their representation. Mrs. Gordon: Are you satisfied as our counsel? Mr. Knox: Yes roam. Mr. Plummer: You need a motion from this Commission? Mr. Grassie: Yes sir, I would least like a motion of... Mr. Plummer: Word your motion. Mr. Grassie: That the City Commission has fully reviewed the proposed agreement between Diplomat World Enterprises and the City of Miami, and concurs in... Mayor Ferre: The Manager's recommendation. Mr. Grassie: The Manager's recommendation. Mt. Plummer: I move i t . Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion, is there a second? Mr. Reboso: Second. Mayor Ferre: There is a second, is there further discussion? Mrs. Gordon: Because this is one item I wanted to--- you are satisfied then that reverter provision as--- Mr. Knox, I'm talking to you right not---- I've suggested to you by the department of natural resources in a lett-Pr that was sent to you I think on October 4th. You're satified that their suggestion is not necessary, they asked you, I believe in that letter, to meet and to determine whether or not the City would meet the correct legal standards and be eligible for a waiver - of the reverter clause. You have not as I--- I don't believe have had such a meting with then on that subject-- have you? Mr. Knox: Alright, I might point out that that letter-- is that letter from Mr. Price? Mrs. Gordon: I'm not holding a letter, I'm holding same me orandums, some notes -that I... Mr. Knox: I did receive a letter from the general counsel of the trustee of the property who directed ne to staff, in terms of setting up a meeting, I responded to that letter by indicating that I and appropriate nerbers of the City Government would be very happy to have a meeting and I asked them to please schedulo 'us . There has not been'any response since my response to the letter to which you refer. But again I don't think that there is any question at this point in my legal opinion of obtaining a waiver because I don't believe that there is any violation of the deed restriction that will require a waiver. Mrs. Gordon: Well, would your opinion be then that they the IAF would not require it, but insist on reviewing all leases which Dilopnat World would ent.Pr into, you know, even with an initial clearance if the reverter clause were not issued. NOV 101977 M r. Rnox: Now, is your question whether... Mrs. Gordon: The leases that Diplomat World w:.11 entering into as far as the development process, will each of those have to be reviewed if this reverter clause is not issued: Mr. Knox: I don't think so Mrs. Gordon. Any lee agreement '.which is entered into, would be entered into by the City of Miami, itself and not by Diplomat World. So that if the City of Miami enters into a lease, number one, there would probably be a declaration that this lame agreement satisfys the public purpose and number two, there is a presumption that the City is in engaged in a public purpose when it enters into those leases. Mrs. Gordon: Alright, again the public record reflect you as our attorney have said that you are satisfied and that any meting with them for the purposes as lined were not necessary and consequently you're advising us to proceed without it, correct? Mr. Knox: I'm advising you that the instrument in front of you is lawful as to form and correctness. Mrs. Gordon: And you're advising us to proceed without the waiver of the reverter clause? Mr. Knox: Yes mare. Mrs. Gordon: Alright. Mayor Ferre: Any further questions? I have same, Mr. Fine would you get on the microphone for a second? On the record I wanted to ask you that as I understand it, that this agreement that the Manager is going to sign once the Commission approves it, is subject to in the future for the revision, should bond counsel and should the auditors of the City and their review feel that it is necessary to modify so that the bons maybe sold. Nlr. Fine: Thats correct. Mayor Ferre: Is that correct? Mr. Fine: Included in addition to those are the underwriters or anyone that is ever involved. Mayor Ferre: And also, if for us to get proper governmental premits, now on bulk headings or what ever other state or regional studies need to be done, that the contract might further have to be modified to that extent, is that correct? Mr. Fine: Thats correct. Mayor Ferre: So in other words even though we are, if its the will of this Commission to approve this agreement, there might be other changes of substance depending on the underwriters, the bond attorneys, the auditors or governmental agencies. Mr. Fine: Thats correct. Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any further question? If not rail the roll. The following notion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: ? TION NO. 77-865 A MOTION STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CITY CCM ISSION HAS FULLY REVIEWED THE PROPOSED PAGREENIE T BFIWE EN DIPLOMAT WORLD ENTERPRISES AND 7HE CITY OF MIAMI AND CONCURS WITH TELE CITY MANAGER'S RDOONIIEATION ON MIS DATE. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Cannissianer Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 9 Nov 101977 APPROVE AGREEMENT FOR CUSTOM BROKER AND FREIGHT FORARDER SERVICES FOR TRADE FAIR OF THE ANERICAS. Mayor Ferre: Now, we're on item B, discussion of pLuposed contract for the Custom Broker and Freight Forwarder Serveres for the Trade Fair of the Americas. Mr. Crmmrton? 14r. Grassie: Charlie Crirpton will introduce this one Mr. Mayer. Mr. Crt tpton: Again we're caning before you for one of those contracts that will be necessary to continue the Fair, this is for freight forwarding and custom hot'se brokerage activities. We have advertised for this, we had eight agencies that expressed an interest at that time. Out of those eight, four of then submitted the detai t s that were required and the CO m ittee reviewed all of the four in detail, their written recommendation also, as well as a review personally before the Committee. Based upon the criterian we recommend to you, two things and primiarly this is due to the City Commission having only one meeting this month, we are telescoping the process and are requesting that you avorove the selection of Nation Wide Traffic Services Bureau Inc., for this service and authorize the Manager to excute a contract that is attached hereto and the resolution for that will be coming to you this afternoon at your regular meeting. Mayor Ferre: Alright, any questions on Mr. Ct mpton's statement? I think he needs a motion, you need a motion? Mr. Plummer: Its on this afternoon's agenda. Mr. cr zrpton: The resolution would be on this afternoon's agenda. Mayor Ferre: Well, frankly I wild like to get out of here as quickly as possible, do you mind, I know this committee of the whole thing gets us all... Mr. Gtassie: No, fine, go ahead and do it. Mayor Ferre: crumtpton is here, and I mean... Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves it, Reboso seconds, further discussion? Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-866 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITYMANASER TO ENTER INTO AN ACTT WITH NATIONWIDE TRAFFIC SERVICE BUREAU, INCORPORATED FOR CUSTOM IUJSE BROKERAGE AND FREIGHT FIWAIMING SERVICES FOR THE TRADE FAIR CF THE AMERIC AS, UPON THE TERNS AND CONDITIONS SET FOSTH IN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT, WITH FUNDS '. R ALLOCATED FROM THE LATIN AMERICAN TRADE EXHIBITION CIRADE FAIR OF THE AMERICAS) TRJST » ACM? PUND. (HERE FOLLOWS BODY OF RESOLUTION, C I'ITED HERE AND ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - Ay Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NCeS • None. R NOV 1 0197 7 DISCUSSION OF SOCIAL SERVICES FUNDING FROM FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING MONIES, Mayor Ferre: We're on item C, discussion of social services funding from Federal Revenue Sharing Funds, Mr. Grassie. Mr. Grassie: This is a second report Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission, you've had one on this subject already, you will have another one in December,. this is an interim report that we would like to make to you.. Mr. Parkin: Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission, as W. Grassie mentioned on the 24th of September, we reviewed with you our recommendations for the process related to social services programs in the City and specifically we recommended that the funding of social services programs be approached through recommended categories of service need, rather than the traditional agency, by agency funding approach. Agencies meeting priority, criteria would be recommended within these categories. As second we also recommended that we begin a shift in our funding calendar from our traditional City fiscal year, to a January to December cycle, now this would allow approximately three months between the adoption of our City budget generally and the start of our social services funding, agencies not being recommended then would have three months to seek alternative funds. Both of these recommendations could also premit the solicitation of proposal for categories of needed services in areas where there may not presently be being provided. Tbday Don Horn, will review with you our suggested categorical distribution in more specific terms than I presented on the 24th of September and our agency recommendations will be provided to you on December 8th. Before Don begins may I introduce our evaluation staff very quickly if you could stand. Fred Sheppard, Joyce Feld, and Luis Castillo and now Don Horn. Mr. Horn: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, this morning our use here is two fold, those two reasons are, we're here to recap the presentation that we made on September 24th, with emphasis on the recommendations that were made at that time and also, as Mr. Parkins stated to discuss with you our recommendations for categorical funding approach. You have before you two lists, the first of which gives you an over view of all of the agencies that have requested federal revenue sharing funds this year, which category of service do they fall into, the amount of funds they've requested and CETA positions they've requested also. The main thing that we would like to discuss this morning are the recommendations that we made on September 24th, because they have a direct bearing on the approach that we will be taking in order to make categorical recce mendations to you, at that time trry recommendations were that we follow a categorical funding approach as outlined on September 24th, such that over previous years we had gone with the categorical fund approaches and over the past three years those particular categories have not varied to a significant degree. One of the things also listed in our recommendations then, was that we prioritize agencies within those categories in order to show you exactly which agencies we recommend to provide services in those categories. As Mr. Parkins stated,recammmendations for specific agencies within categories will be presented to you on December 8th, however, in an effort to provide social services up until that point, there is a 1/12th ordinance on the agenda today to fund those agencies that were allocated revenue sharing dollars last year in order to continue providing social services until such time as a final allocation is made. Included in the recommendations also, was a rEcartmndation that staff be allowed to solicit services where needed in areas, becam.se as you can see by the second list that was given to you, that we are recannendir g certain programs in certain target areas through the City, Trost of it is basso on the fact that only limited services are applied to be provided in certain areas and staff had noted that this presents inequities in the types of services that are needed in areas because there are no agencies applying to provide those services when they are needed. If you would briefly take a look at the second list which is our recommended categorical funding list, you'll see that it is broken down by target area, re c mmrrnded category dollar amounts and specific services that are needed in these particular target areas. What we would like today to get from the Commission, is a consensus or same general opinion regarding our categorical. fending approach at this time and whether or not the Commission agrees with this philosophy of evaluation for federal revenue sharing request. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, here we go. This man might as well have his bath of blood to began with. Mr. Mayor, let me state as have-- I think for, this is 11 NOV 101977 the forth or the fifth year for federal reveeee sharing--- my estimation and my vote always and will be predicated on a crite...el established a little bit different than yours. My criteria is that first and for.'siust in the line of social services we take care of the sick and afflicted, see nd ,.v we feed the hungry and anything left over from there we can distribute. As far as 7 c' acerned when you show categories as recreation that doesn't meet my first two critere e , when you talk about information and referrals, I don't knew what it is, but it (io sn't. meet my first two criterias, when you talk about transportation, information referrals and that thing called adminstration cost, that doesn't meet rrry criteria. Now, all I can say to you is that if you want this one vote as far as I'm cencerni1, you must satisfy me that the first two categories as I outlined and in that order have been met before we start talking about other categories and I'll put it on the re ord right now, because Mrs. Gordon, even though she and I have not communicated, I do aware of one area in this community that this City has lacked and I'm going to strive diligently to do something about dt this year and addressing that problem. I was nothing simply more than amazed that in all the areas that this Cit'' has helped we don't do the first thing for people who are deaf, nothing. New, all I'm going to say to you to me that is an area that must be addressed, that comes s under rrry category of sick and afflicted and I'm telling you that as far as I'm concerned if you don't address that problem you've lost 20% of the vote. W. Parkin: Commissioner on December 8th, we will be providing for yru a break down of the primary funding or prime responsible agency groups, secondary responsibilits and then we will be filling the gap, we'll be addressing the priorities that you're... Mr. Plummer: Well, Fob all you were asking for was feed back from this Commission, thats my feed back and I'm telling you that if you want this Commissioner to look favorably, that these kind of thing in priority as I outlined have got to be met. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, is this what you wish us to do today, is speak to you about our feelings of concern? Mr. Grassie: Yes, thats correct Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, well no one cyan,quarrel with the need for health rare, I think I'm more involved in health care and the delivery of health care services than any consumer on this Commission, serving on the State Committee for coordinating services and I serve as treasurer of the Health Systems Agency for South Florida. I've also been appointed by the Governor to a special Committee to set up guide lines for the basic health testing centers and that group of five will be meeting here in this Commission chamber on saturday, so consequently the concern for health rare is something I've had demonstrated by my devotion to it in time and effort. Ok, however I'm very concerned with the prevention of illness, I'm acre concerned of illness than I am with us providing the treatment, because I don't really think that falls in our purview, but I do believe that if we concentrate on the day care approach to not only the children that we have and are providing day care for, but we enlarge upon our concerns for the elderly, who are in desperate need of more facilities to take rare of them and keep them out of institutions and prevent their deterioration, I would say that we would be doing a very worth while service. As far as the hot meals programs it is not in my opinion our responsibility to fund, it is our responsibility to obtain the funds by separate grant monies that are available for trot meals, but to take our very minor amount of social service dollars that we have to buy meals is not necessary because we can get it if we apply for it under other -programs, there are meals cronies available, w. should go after that instead of allocating it from our budget. Counseling of youth, needless to say thats a very wide field and we certainly should be involved in it, but we should be involved in it in a much more coordinative fashion then what we are doing now, which in my opinion is like a shot gun approach you know, a sawed off shot gun approach and we need to go more on target and unfortunately we missed our vote with regards to that coordinated effort for you, maybe with ---the good lord is with us and we can still find the way to over acne the lack of a facility, maybe we can still gull those pieces together, I don't know, but I would certainly hope so. Well, again economic development is important but not nearly as important from these revenue sharing dollars as the other priorities that we've just mentioned, I think I've summed up my concerns. _2rayor F`rre: Alright, further statements on ita C? Mr. Horn: Mr. Mayor, if 1 may ask this final question, is it safe for staff to assuming that we can go with the categorical funding approach--- however, with the priorities that have been laid out to us today. 12 NOV 1.O1971 paaple who no fault of their own are sick, are the first and primary responsibility of any society, any where in the world at any time and if a person happens to have tuberculosis or happen to have--- doesn't have enoL;h food or is afflicted, socially I think that that is our first and primary respansib.ility. We only have and I :gay only with a great deal of respect, $1,186,000, I am for using that money to dive food to the needing and to give medicine tr -.4ose that need it if they're not heing met and I think that we have to concern ourselves with the basic needs of the people, they what ever race, age or color or what have you and as far as I'm concerned my second position and I'm very clear about this, is that I am simply totally, •,maltprably opposed to spending any great amount of money on any one person, I think the money has got to be spread and its got to be spread so that more people can get the use and the value of it and I'm not--- if you want me to put it on the record very specifically---- I am totally opposed to spending $3,000 FPr person of which we pay half of what ever it is on child care centers, I think we've got to spread that money in a way that most people get the most benefit out of it and thats my feeling and I'm only 1/5 of this Commission. Mr. Plummer: Thank you for making my long speech brief. Rose, number one, the sick and afflicted, number two, to feed the hungry and then we'll talk about the rest of the money thats left over. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, you have no objection to seed the hungry fram federal funds that are set up specifically for food programs. Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that a: all. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, then you will allow our staff to find those federal dollars to feed hungry people and I'm with you all the way. Mr. Plummer: I'm not opposed to anything, 311 we're doing is setting perimeters, on December 8th, we will be more delineator on what and where it goes. I think it does behooves staff based on my comments, to contact those people that are with the organization for the deaf, to get with then and see what this City can do because it is a neglected area. Mrs. Gordon: I don't really think you mean just the deaf are neglected, I think you think the handicapped are neglected, don't you? Mr. Plummer: Rose, that was the only point that I delineated and made very clear. Mayor Ferre: The handicapped are very much apart of this. Mr. Plummer: I said sick and afflicted, they would vane under the category of r, afflicted. Mayor Ferre: The sick, afflicted and handicapped, those that are--- I think we've got to use our money where the greatest needs are, human needs and the other thing that I like to put into the record Mr. Grassie, is that we have to have a proper geographical distribution. Now, I don't mean that Baypoint should_get money--- you know, these federal funds, it has to be or a basis of need where the poverty levels are the worse where the unemployment is the highest, obviously Culmer is very important, Obviously Allapattah is very important, but I think we---- I want to make very sure we're distributing the use of these monies in a geographic-- and I want to see that in graphs and charts , as to the proper distribution not in relation to population, but in relation to needs. Mrs. Gordon: Coordinate your figures together with all funding sources that are being given to those specific areas. Let us not feel that we are not thing our part when if in fact there are agencies, state, federal, county and others, that are doing the share, we all contribute our money to these other public bodies, we pay Dade County taxes, we pay federal taxes, we're doing our share. Yes, I want you to be able to give us a comprehensive report. Mr. horn: Mrs. Gordon, that information was presented to you on September 24th, toimever, it will be presented again. Mrs. Gordon: I know, I repeated it because some people forgot about it. Mayor Ferre: Alright, anything else on this item number C. 13 NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: Well, I don't really know what consensus of this Ccntnissior: is going to be on the total of the grand expenditure of $1,186,255, which is what you have to expend, is that correct? Mr. Horn: No, sir thats the use of funding level. Mayor Ferre: Isn't that what I just said? Mk. Parkin: : Yes, thats what we have to spend. Mr. Horn: Yes sir. Mrs. Gordon: What is the total amount ? Mayor Ferre: $1,186,255.59 and as I understand, what you're saying is that $434,000 of that is going to day care, is that correct. Mr. Horn: Yes sir. Mayor Ferre: And then you have all these other things, counseling and what have you and t:}:_.s and that and then you have a distribution--- and Father, I think this is important that we follow this, if you'll excuse me for a moment---- and not that this is final, but I just want to make sure we all understand we're going to distribution of $15,000 to Allapattah, $195,000 to Coconut Grove, $105 to Clumer, $8,000 to Downtown, $113,000 to Ftlison, $107,000 to Little Havana, $31,000 to i'Yx3el Cities $23,000 to the Wynwood area and then we have another $600,000 in the City wide functions. I would substribe to Plumrer's statement, so you got 40% of this Commission who goes along with that feeling. Mrs. Gordon: What is your feeling? Mayor Ferre: Well, Plumy went into a long speech I'm not going to repeat it, but I... Mrs. Gordon: No, I want to know your feelings, I don't want a dito, I want to }mow what you think. Mayor Ferre: So as far as I'm concerned, I agree with Plummer, 100% on his basic statement. Mrs. Gordon: Well, ok what basic parts of his statement? Mayor Ferre: All of it, I agree with the whole statement. Mrs. Gordon: What do you say? Mr. Plummer: It was so long Rose, I can't repeat it. Mrs. Gordon: Neither can he. I don't think you really realize just what you said. Mr. Plummer: Let ma see if I can make it brief, Rose in my estimation I have set priorities, my priority number one,'is to acjclress the problem of the sick and afflicted. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, now I want you to elaborate so we all understand. What do you mean hospitial care, what are you talking .shout.? Mr. Plummer: Rose, I'm not trying to elaborate. I brought up about the deaf problem. Mts. Gordon: Yes, but how do you expect to address that? I want to know because I'm going to be voting too, if I agree with you, I want to know what to do. W. Plummer: They asked us to set perimeters and thats what I'm doing. The sick and afflicted first, second is... Mrs. Gordon: Would you take the opposite approach and say lets prevent them from getting sick first. Mayor Ferre: Tao, I wouldn't take the opposite approach. Mrs. Gordon: You want to get than sick first. Mayor Ferre: No, I don't want o get these sick first Mrs. Gordon, I think that 14 NOV i01977. Mayor Ferre: Now we are on item number D, Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Knox: You may recalled that October 14th, marked a year period of our tenure in the law department and in order to give you sore ideas of the activities of the law department during the past year, we did prepAre a so called annual report wich was distributes to you prior to our last weeks meeting and its in attempt to indicate the kind of activities, the significant activities that the City Attorney's Office has engaged in for the past year and of course I believe that it's relatively self explanatory, I would only add that we have had the good portion I think of gaining a good repetition aroung the members of the bench and the bar and the community and we have successfully brought favorable attention to the law department and therefore, the City of Miami, statewide and nationwide during the past year and I will be happy to answer any questions you may have about the anual report. 6. AUTHORIZE SALE OF FURNISHINGS OF DALLAS PARK HOTEL, Mayor Ferre: We're now on item E. Mr. Grassie: This proposal Mr. Mayor, will be presented by Jim Connally. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Connally' Mr. Connally: Mr. Mayor, and members of the Camission, since its been known that the Dallas Park Hotel is going to cane down very shortly, we have received over hundred phone calls of people who are interested in getting a piece of the rock and piece of memorabilia fitAit the hotel. In addition there is a-- several amounts of furnishings that are loose that could bring sane .revenue to the City, the suggestion we would like to follow is this, that there are a fairly small amount of fairly valuable goods, carpet and furnishings and the old paddle type electric fans, which will be auctioned, but however, anything that would be under sane value like $25.00 would be tagged by a licensed appraiser-- like we have probably about 200 desk lamps and over a hundred floor lamps and to auction then off one at a time is just going to take days on end. So what we would like to do is auction off everything of value piblically and then have a tag sale for the remainder of the goods. Mts. Gordon: Mat do you mean by tag sale? !4r. Connally: A licensed appraiser will determine a fair value for sale--- you know, not for just hanging around for months, but for Buick of the... Mts. Gordon: I see your point and I agree with you on that, if they're not sold . ever, in that manner then they would go as a package on an auction--- in the auction. Mr. Connally: Well, if they're not sold on that basis the next step is we will have a invitation for there are sane_ salvage contractors who will take tht:• reminder of whats in the hotel, including that equipment that has not been sold. Mr. Plurarex: Do you know where charity starts? Mr. Connally: No; I don't. Mr. Grassie: Are you referring C]atmissioner to the use of the money? Mr. Plumer: I'm saying where -the money is going, you designated the money for the Lowe Arts Museum. Mr. Connally: No sir. 15 NOV 101977 Grassie: T. For the Miami Center, C_crm ee sioner. Mr. Plummer: It is recommended that the pro e Cron this public gale be designated to the City of Miami, in a special account for the use by the Miami Center Lowe Arts Museum for relocation expenses. Mr. Grassie: The Miami Center, Commissioner, is e City activity which we are conducting in cooperation with the Lowe Arts Museum, we're using their paintings and our facilities to provide a cultural opportunity downta.'n, so really we have their staff and their paintings on loan and what we're talking about is using this money to move the facility since we have to tear down the old one, thats all. Mr. Plummer: And let them run the sale. Mr. Grassie: Well, they are going to help, they are going to provide a lot of the appraisal help and a lot of the staff help. Mrs. Gordon: I got to express this opinion that I expressed the other day to one of your assistances Mr. Grassie, now, you knee;, this thing came to us as an agenda item delineating exactly what your decision was with refunds. Now, I might like the idea and I might not, but I don't think that it should have been done in that way, I think it should have been left to this Commission's discretion as to where you were going to be allocating those dollars that was going to be received. I kind of resented it. Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll make you a motion that we proceed with the sale. I offer that in the form of a motion. Mrs. Gordon: I didn't hear your motion. Mr. Plummer: I make a motion they proceed with the sale. Mr. Connally: And report back where the... Mrs. Gordon: It was seconded. Mr. Plummer: In lieu of any other comment it goes into the general funds, now, if the Lave Arts C 11ery wants to one here and tell me what they're doing for this City, I'll be glad to listen. Mr. Reboso: Thats fair, I'll second the motion. Rev. Gibson: There is a motion, do I hear a second? Mrs. Gordon: There was a second. Rev. Gibson: Alright, under discussion. Mrs. Gordon: Under discussion here again, the allocation to the Lowe Arts has not been precluded, nothing has been precluded, its simply a matter of authorizing the sale of the wise period. Mr. Plummer: Thats all. Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm sorry I was ah.,ent for a second, tell me what the motion is again. Mr. Plummer: The motion isi that to proceed with the sale. Mayor Ferre: With the proceeds of the sale of the what? Mr. Plummer: Of the salvage of the Dallas Park. Mayo:. Ferre: Well, what else can you do, there is nothing else you can do with it. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, its a loaded notion so you understand what I'm doing, I objected and Mrs. Gordon objected, to the Manager recommending of where those —funds go. Now, in lieu of not saying anything those funds will qo to the general fund, if the low arts needs honey for relocation let them cane here and explain to me and the rest of this Commission, what they're doing for this City and then if we see fit we' 11 give than same money. 1 C. NOV 101977, Mayor Ferre: Well, haw rruich Irony do you e..iect to raise out of al]. of this. Mr. Plummer: $17,000,465. Mr. Connally: I would say over $10,000 and less than $25,000, some where in that area, its hard to tell. Mayor Ferre: Haw much are they going tp need to move, There Ever they're going to Howe, have they decided where they're going to move }et? Mr. Grassie: Not yet they have decided where they woulc like to move, they need a final answer fran the property owners, yes. My impre: sion : s that our expenses would be very little. Mayor Ferre: Alright, without further discussion, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Camris:sione - Plumper, who moved its adoption: My_ZON D. 77-867 J. MOTION AUTHORIZ:N3G AND DIREL'TINC THE C :TY IMIN,GER 70 P1m E) Wrlli THE SALE OF THE I URNISHINGS OF TH : mum S PARK HOTEL. Upon being seconded by Comr_issionQ r Reboso, the notion w rs passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Ccnmis:;ioner J. L. Plrrnrrer, Jr. Courn s honer Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commis:;ioner Rose Gordon Mayor ; 4aurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 7, CORRECT PUBLIC RECORD ON ORDINANCE CONCERNING GREEN FEES Am GOLF CARTS (ORDINANCE #8728) Mayor Ferre: Alright, we're now on item number F. You have a memorandum before you on item number F. Mr. Grassie: This is simply an explanation and clarificatial for the record Mr. Mayor, so that... Mayor Ferre: Any corrections? I mean anything on this correction within the motion? Mr. Grassie: Yes, we probably should read the statement int) the record. Mr. Pluriner: Read your =ration. Mts . Gordon: Mat in... Mt. Plummer: Offer i oration Mr . Gras sie . Mayor Ferre: This is item number F, this is a c)rrection on the... Mr. . Grassie: The motion should be the last Para rraph in thi wish I'll read it. roved that the puolic record show that t Commission intented to and dial approve an amerth rnt to ordir establishing new fees for carts and green fees a: City golf Deeenber 1, 1977 and said ordinance was passed ti a vote of of the City Commission, dispensing with the requirement of r on two separate days. Mr. Plurmer: 1»+bve i t. 12r. Reboso: Second. s memorandum, if you ae City of Miami, ance number 8542, courses, effective not less than 4/5 eading of the same 17 NOV ] 01977 Mayor F'erre: Alright, there is a nation and a second, on discussion, call the roll. The following ;ration was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adOptiont MiTION ND. 77-868 Arraam THAT THE I JBL1C RWORD SHOW THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI O 4 ISSION ThTTE DED TO AND DID APPROVE AN AMENDMENT 'ID ORDINANCE NO. 8542, ESTABLISHING NEW FEES FOR CARPS AND GREENS FEES AT CITY GOLF COURSES, EFF 1 TIVE DECEMBER 1, 1977, ?ND SAID ORDI NICE WAS PASSED BY A VOTE OF NJ JPc.q THAN 4/5THS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING OF THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS. Limon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. C rmissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Hose Gordan Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. the motion was paGsed and adopted 8. APPOINT COMMISSIONER MANOLA REBOSO AS VICE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI Mayor Ferre: Alright, an G. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion at this time on item G, that... INAUDIBLE - Mrs. Gordon: I just came up to ask the attorney whether we could do G. 2lr. Plummer: No problem. Mayor Ferre: : Alright, Mt. Plumrmax roves . . S4r. Tlurar :r: I offer a notion at this time, that my esteem colleague Manolo Beboso, serve for the cxsnirgg real- as Vice -Mayor of the City of Miami,. Mrs. Gordon: I'll second the ration. Mayor Ferre: Its been seconded by Mrs. Gordon. Mrs. Gordon: My question was directed... Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion? Ca11 the roll on item G. _ 18 NOV J. u 1977 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner PlU mer, who MOVtd its adOption RESOLUTION NO. 77-869 A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING CO y4ISSIONER MANOLO REBOSO AS VICE -MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI , FLORIDA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 19 Nov 101977 9, CITY MANAGER REPORT ON LABOR NEGOTIATIONS AND C I 77COMMISSION'S DIRECTION TO PERC, Mayor Ferri: Now, we have a the report on labor negotr. tions and salary increases. Mr. Grassie: This is an information report on two i..ems Mx. Mayor. To bring you up -to --date on labor negotiations with negotiations we having with the sanitation employees' organization, --those are proceeding. We would anticipate the possibility (of course there's no guarantee) but we anticipate the possibility of being able to reach some kind of an agreement, with that bargaining unit with 10 days or so. I simply want to put that in time reference for you so you will know that is moving along. On the second thing, we briefly discussed the possibility of same salary increases in the last session of the City Commission. We are scheduled now to have some review of the budget with the FIU team tomorrow and also on Thursday and Friday of the following weeks. As soon as we accomplish those reviews we would expect to come back to you with some suggestions on this question of salary increases. Any questions on that Mi. Mayor? 0r Commission? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, clarify for the employees as well as this ignorant Commissioner, we instructed you,(not really instructed you) with your cooperation, we spoke to the last commission meeting about the 3 percent. Was it the intent, as you read it, of this commission, or your intent of that being retroactive. What vas the feeling of that? Mr. Grassie: I think that the basic tenor of our discussion was that we all recognized a problem in the sense of a significant period of time having gone by. We agreed we would like to be able to do something about that,and that the basic constraint on us was a budgetary one, which we are in the process of going through. I think we understand what we would like to accomplish. The question really gets to be; what are the penalities of the trade-off that we suffer. That is all. Mr. Plummer: 1 just wanted to get that straight. Mr. A.G. Sherman: I just basically want to find out where we stand in this. My name is A.G. Sherman, I am here representing the General Employees Association and all general employees at large, who are currently without a contract. I have presented to each member of the Commission and the City Mananger a letter which we recently received in regards to an early consent election. As you can see, at this present time they have no answer and see no answer in our conversation with them as to negotiations, or setting up an election. So what I am more or less interested in finding out now, how do we stand, and what period of delay in our request for our 31 percent, are we looking at? Mr. Plummer: Ile just answered it. Mr. Sherman: Well, which is indefinite. You are giving us a period of time, but it an indefinite period of time. This could go on for months. Mr. Plummer: Bow can he do anything else? The man is the one who proffered that be is going to try to find it, and he has to find it. I don't see how he can do aiy .different. If you want to pin him down,, po ahead. But 1 don't,------ W. Sherman: Basically, all we can do is sit back and wait for an unknown period of time. Mr. Plummer: I don't see where you can do anything else. This wan't a thing where we beat him into submission to do such. Be volunteered to go into this as well as the commission asking him to. You are away ahead of the game in my estimation. You are not going to get it today or tomorrow,---- W. Sherman: We are not asking for it today ur tomorrow, but a projected period of time. I mean we can more or .less let the people be aware of what has transpired. W. P1 wr: This is the first meeting after the suggestion was made and we reminded him of it, and I am sure we are going t.o remind him of it if it is not done by the -next meeting. Mr. Sherman: Which is one month from today. 20 N( 3 0 1977 Ms. Pat Skubish: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I will wait for Mr. Beboso to return because I like to have a full coin-tssion here when I am speaking. Mr. Plummer: Okay. Mr. Mayor while Pat is waiting for that, Mr. Grassie, let me bring up a subject. This Commission is being cast, ---is Mr. Mielke here? Coming in the door? This Commission is being thrown into the posture of the 'bad guy.' I am going to tell you for one, I don't like it. I think all of this problem, with GEA, or the so-called non -uniformed employees, solely rests at the feet of PERC. We can't force thtm to act, we can't force them to move. But I am going to tell you for one, that I think this commission should go on record and inform them as such, that we are damn unhappy that they are not bringing this thing to a conclusion. Not indicating that we are trying to interfere with their due process, but by God, enough is enough. This time -span has now gone on what, --a year and a half? About a year? This thing was put into existence to straighten these problems out. What do we find? Much to the contrary. It has completely muddied the waters. They are using that as excuses to delay and prolong. Mr. Grassie,----where is Mielke? Would it be within the purview of this commission that we express to PERC in no uncertain terms of the position in which they are placing this commission and there we are fed -up with it and we want them to get off dead center and do something. Mr. Grassie: We certainly agree with that Commission. If you would like, if this is the intent of the City Commission, I would like to draft that kind of resolution and bring it to you this afternoon. Mr. Plummer:Mr. Mayor I offer a motion at this time that the Mananger be instructed to word a strongly worded letter to the PERC in Tallahassee to get this thing brought to a conclusion. I offer that in the form of a motion. Mrs. Gordon: I will second the motion that it is not going to solve the problem that is before us. We will get this over with first. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I have a motion and a second, that Mr. Grassie write a strongly worded letter to PERC telling them to get off dead center and quit getting this Commission cast in the role of a bad guy and bring this thing to a successful conclusion. Mr. Grassie: Yes,sir. Mr. Plummer: He will bring it back this afternoon. The above notion was passed and adopted a unanimous vote of the City Commission. Mayor Ferre: Pat Skubish you have the floor. Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask somebody,-----J.L. said we are made to look like bad guys. That doesn't buy the bread. People need, and they are entitled to, for last year, and I want to know, are we still holding that up. That is not a part of what is being held up? Mr. Grassie: No, that is a separate question altogether. Pars. Gordon: The quesiton I am asking you is, when do they start -receiving that 31 percent.that they were entitled to, (the General Employees) last year? W. Grassie: The question would have come to you for ratification. But.I would like to have a recommendation for you for the next meeting. ?tars. Gordon: You don't have a recommendation now? W. Grassie: You remember tehat we said the last time we talked about this, was that you have to find the money. It has to come out of the budget. So we are in that process right now. We will schedule tomorrow, and Thursday and Friday, of next week for session with the FIU team. Coming out of that I will have. a -recommendation Mr. A.G. Sherman: I just want to say that in reference to the employee and the Commission, etc. and how we stand back in July of 1976. Basically the problem we -are facing right now, is the fault of any individual general employee. Back in 1976, In July, the Commission approved the General Employees Association as the collective bargaining agent which consequently brought about a unfair labor suit by ASFME. So rcon8equently the employees feel it is the basic fault of the administration by not ATV 1 0 1977 realizing the labor ;maw, or consequently not recogniaine it or less threw us In a position we are at now, and it is not employees that. they are not able to enter into negeeeations advantages as of such. 1 would like to more or less ..et the was their `aui.t along win the administration, basically by the consequent unfair labor suit filed against us, and went were not able to neeoeiate. as such, that is more the fault of the and receive any possible Commission know that it accepting us and having into a stalemate, they Xs. Pat Skub<.ah: Hr. M yor and members of the Commission, Pat Skubish, 1 am not here to say whose fault it was. There's e lot of bad guys you can blame. And there's a lot of good guys. We have 2200 people out there, End 1 can't keep facing these people without telling them when we are going to get a percent cost -of -living increase. You people have the power, to give us a 31 percent. cost -of -living increase. That does nor have to he negotiated. I have to tell these people something. There's 2200 of them. 1 told you before, they only had 2_; percent cost -of --living increase 25 months eeo,.......----.25 months ago. We feel horrible. We can't go and say,---hey,---- 1 really sympathize with Mrr. Grasse. he is tryingij the: best he can, for City Manarieet But I have to go bake to my constituents and tell them, well, another couple of days, another couple of weeks. A letter is going out, but we don't know what is going to happen. What is PERC going to do? PERC can't tell you guys not to give us a cost - of -living increase. You can do that. 'You have the power. And God, ---why don't you help up? 1 don't understand it. I really don't. Twenty five months, for the back- bone of the city's work force. That's what you got. The backbone, -----without these people, the city can't function. Hrs. Gordon: Didn't we approve that for the last tneeting? Ms. Skubish: Approved it two weirs ago. Mrs. Gordon: At the last meeting, when you stood these Pat, we moved a motion, and the ciananger was instructed to find a source for the payment and he said now, that he is dcing that. Am I correct? You are working on the budget and finding the source to comply with our request. An I wrong or right M.r. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Yes, what 1 just indicated to you, was that we are working on the budget process right now. Mfrs. Gorduu: That was our expressed request, that 1976-77, 3 percent be in that budget. That was 76-77, am 1 correct? This past eear. Ms. Skubish: Yes. I know Mr. Grassie recou eede-d to,---- Mr. Grassie: 1977--78 budget, ----yes . Airs. G.rdou: Yes, the increment of increase, that they were entitled and didn't receive in 76-77 by placed into that budget, for thew to receive it. That's what we passed. PSr. Gs-aasie: Of course the old budget is closed out. 'You are talking about it in the current budget? Ars. Gordon: Putting in there and making previsions for the -payment. Exactly. Ms. Skubish: You are talking bout retroactive to 76-77. Right. Mrs. Gordan: 3Tnat's what we talked about. That's what he agreed to. • Ms. Skubish: Yea. And Mr. Grassie said he would have an .answer for us in the evening session. Do you remember that Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Iu fairness to the City Commission, I think we have to say a couple of things. One, the reason we have this stalemate is not because of anything the adr ic,t:E,ion of the city coimisslon has done. It is basically a struggle for pewee among, at least two, 'on occasion there have been three groups .among the General Employees. The reason we have not had an answer from PERC so far, is because ASFGHE hes filed letters and used every kind of delaying tactic, to put off the vote. I understand people don't want to face up to that reality but: that is the truth. That Is the fact. The fact .is, we have differences &along the General employees, with regal 22 140v 1 r' 1977 8s to who should represent them, and one faction is trying to delay a vote, presumably because they feel they don't have the « tes at this point. I think we can get a decision out of PERC. I think your resolution will help us to do that and that is why I am encouraging you to do it. I don't think you should be placed in the position where you have to take blame for the fact that a vote hasn't taken place so far. The other thing that needs to be pointed out is that this retroactive increase we are talking about is something that has been negotiated for by the police union, by the fire union and ----in respect for them, ---out of some kind of fairness to the process they have gone through, I think we need to be a little careful as to just how we handle the recommendation that is coming to you right now. I don't think it is something that can be done lightly and casually, as if it is something that is automatically a right, when other employee groups have worked very hard have actually given up things in order to accomplish that. I think we need some of that perspective in this discussion also. Ms. Skubish: Maybe somebody can answer for me, what about the unfair labor practice, Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: What is the question? Ms. Skubish: What brought about the unfair labor practice you just spoke of? Mr. Grassie: The city's following its normal past practice of being generous to a fault with the general employees. Basically, rushing out and giving recognition before the election process had taken place. Because basically the city was trying to accomodate the general employees, trying to be nice to them. Now, it is being brought up as if it were something for which the City Commission should be faulted. Ms. Skubish: As I said before, Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I am not here to say who is at fault. I don't want to go back and forth. All I want to do is have something constructive I can take to my constituency and tell them we have something definite working out, a retroactive raise, a cost -of -living increase. Now you have power to do that. When you talk about fairness, ---how fair can you get? When you have non -sworn, non -uniformed employees that haven't had a raise in 25 months, --you are really giving them plenty. I can go back and tell them because the police and fire and sanitation, (which are in negotiations now), --they get their raises. They are very highly organized people. It is just because we are not. We are in all different classifications throughout the City, that we don't seem to have our act together. We sit back. We are not as vocal. We are not as visible as the uniformed employees. But God, we are important. And I have to go back out to 2200 of them and tell them we don't have any money. I don't know -- it is another promise, --it's another week, --they are going to write to PERC. What the heck is PERC going to say? PERC is going to say, --yeah,--you wait for another year. And what are you going to do? You have the power to give us a 31 percent cost -of -living increase. You have the power and you should do it, in all fairness. For 25 months. Mr. Reboso: Pat let me say something. I agree with you. But the only thing I don' t agree is to be retroactive for two years. I would go retroactive to January 1st. But two years, --- Ms. Skubish: No, sir. Mr. Reboso, I am asking for one-year. That's all•I am asking for. Mr. Reboso: What year?Beginning when? ISs. Skubish: October 1, 1976 to October 1, 1977. That's all. It was put aside for us. It is only fair. Mrs. Gordon: Correct me if I am wrong. It seems to me we are hearing the same Tecord again. Didn't we pass on this at the last commission meeting? Ms. Skubish: Yes, you did. I am trying Mrs. Gordon, please to get a commitment to get some money in the paychecks for Christmas. Okay? I am trying to get what is really due them. tort NOV 1 0 19, I Mrs. Gordon: Maybe what I am hearing again, just the same thing we are saying, again and again. We said it. The Commission said it by motion at the last com- mission meeting. And we are not negotiating the period of time, --all due respects. It was budgeted last year and wasn't given to Not because they weren't entitled to it but because the PERC didn't say, now you can negotiate with a single union. They still haven't said it and they may never say it. So consequently what we are saying is, in the absence of an expression from PERC we have to be the decision makers. And we have to do what is fair and right, and we said we are going to do what is fair and right. And the Mananger said he is going to have to have another week or two to tell us specifically where that money is coming from so we will have a balanced budget. That's all. Is that right? That's what I heard —Am I wrong? Mr. Sherman: We will go along with that if we can get an answer by the next commission meeting. Mrs. Gordon: That's what Mr. Grassie said before. Didn't you? Mr. Grassie:By way of clarification Commissioner, I do not belive that the City Commission adopted by motion any kind of position. What you asked me to do, was to look at the problem and come back to you with a recommendation which I agreed to. I felt at the time was something we should do. My understanding, you have not outlined what the solution is. Mrs. Gordon: We will get a copy of the motion. Mr. Grassie:--a set of recommendation which analyze the consequences. Mayor Ferre: I think the basic question is, can a member of the commission make a motion that the 31% was earmarked in the previous budget to be paid from October to October? 31/2%? Mr. Grassie: You can make a motion to any effect. And if you wish to do that sort of thing, you could do it. No question about it. I think you have to put that in the context, of the way in which you wish to do business. Whether you want to do that sort of thing, out of the context of labor negotiations, and out of the context of any kind of budgetary impact. Mayor Ferre: The problem Joe, is one of a realistic problem. I think this commission, as I sense it anyway, wants to go along with the administration as much as we possibly can in the process of labor negotiations. But you know what the consensus is, at lest the majority of the commission is, as has been expressed. You know where this is go: Mr. Grassie: Yes. Mayor Ferre: For a practical point of view, it seems practical to me, that due to the long delays,(that's not an issue here), --I think we have to approach this from a realistic, practical point of view. I think you know what I am saying. Mr. Grassie: What I am saying is, as soon as we can get the budget reviewed, and we know what the impact is, and that is the first meeting in December. Mayor Ferre: When is that going to be? You are saying that we are making the decision in the first meeting in December. Mr. Grassie: At least I will have the alternatives for you, so you will know what the consequences are, and if you wish to make the decision at that time, you will be able to. Yes. It will be up to you. Ms. Skubish: it is up to you right now. Mr. Reboso: I think is fair Pat. My strong opinion is, it is fair that you get the 3/X. The Manager is requesting the first meeting in December, -----anyhow you are getting it before Christmas. I am willing to wait for that meeting. Ms. Skubish: We are going to get what before Christmas? Mr. Reboso: The 31%. Ms. Skubish: Retroactive? _24 NOV 101977 tro Reboso: That's right. To October. Mrs. Gordon: To October of which year? Clarify that. To October of what year? Mr. Reboso: 1976,----October 1976. Ms. Skubish: Thank you very much. Mr. Sherman: Thank you very much. We will be back on the 8th or whatever it is, of December. Thank you. Mr. Gene Naples: May I make an inquiry please? Mayor Ferre: Yes. Mr. Naples: When were we to meet with the FIU people? Mr. Grassie: Tomorrow. Mr. Naples: Those meetings will be open, of course. We are six weeks after October 1st and we agree of course that we would not press to implement the provisions in our contract but we are a little concerned that no information has been made available as to what has been happening, to the budget. We would like to take part of course, in those meetings. Not take part as to input, but to be informed when those meetings will be held so we can be there to monitor. Mrs. Gordon: What time were they scheduled? Mr. Grassie: Four o'clock tomorrow in my conference room, Gene. 25 NOV 101977 10, BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: SALARIES OF CITY Ai �Cr'EY Are CITY CLERK, Mayor Ferre: Alright, now on another subject you know, I think its important we cent over very quickly the City Attorneys annkuI report and we did increase the Manager's salary, I think this Cui nission should give sirrdl.ar consideration with the City Attorney and his stAff--- I don't know what haltered to Mr. Knox, is he gone— alright, I think that thats samethinc that we in this Commission should fare that issue prohaps, certainly be the December meeting. Mrs. Go. -on: Yes and you were going to consider and should be cansidPring also the Clerk's who in our juri diction. N yor Ferre: sight., so in other think that when we cane to these into account the City Attorney's talking gut. ;mac 'giber 10th now, day. words I just 1ik to tell the Cair fission, that i deliberations in discussion, that we got to take Office and the City's Clerk Office and We're ok. December 10th is going to be a very important Mts. Gordon: December loth? SPEAKER UNl3'N: December 8th, isn't it? Mts . Gordon: The 8th. Mayor Ferre: : De<:e .r 8th, I beg your pardon. Alright, .. . 1 SPEAKER iT KiNKu:J : Mr. Mayor, I would also like to re5r,.i.nd the Manager ;----.._ Mr. Manager, that you have nude reservations and adequate provisions for you and the Mayor, to go to Ne.' Orleans in January. Mayor or Fevre: Is that on the Super Bowl? SPEAXERINWA4N. Mats for Super Bowl. It was passed by a resolution at meeting - the last Mayor Ferre: No, the resolution said the Mayor or a rnember of th SPEAKER U,nYt3C»N: Ok, Alright, but in other words that adequate povisions are being made, thats what I want to make sure. Mayor Ferre: January 1, is that? SPEAKER UNKt 10th I believe Mr. Mayor. 2f NOV 101977 11. CITY`S REPRESENTATION AT SUPERBOWL IN JANUARY, 1978, Mayor Ferre: Well, Plummer I feel this way again about it, you've been doing this for so many years and you know how to do this best and you know, New Orleans is a great town, you have a lot of fun, go to french restaurants and all that. So, why don't you just mark that down on your calendar and if you can't make it, then we'll talk about. Alright, the importance of this Super Bowl meeting is not as crucial as the last one, but I think its important that we show our appreciation, gratitude and continuing interest. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, this is not a meeting so that there is no misunderstanding, this is something that we have done every year, just to go there and let the people know that we love, anything, any questions we can answer, anything that we can do to help them out for there caning next year. This is just a way to remind that the City of Miami, wants them and needs them. 12. PRESENTATION OF DESIGN MODEL FOR THE NEW CITY ADMINISTRATION BUIIDING. Mayor Ferre: Alright, this time we're going to take up ste st, who odis please. here to taik to us About the administration building, youwould P Mr. Panooast: Mr.Mayor and Commissioners, we are happy this morning to show you a schematic model, in fact two kinds of models, to explain as well as we can at this point the schematic design for the new City of Miami, administrative building The location of it I'm sure you're familiar with already, its where the english language school, the old building of the board of educations is aboutto te hat demolished, it close by the expressway, its different fromthepolice everyone veryvisible by respect, because it will be hard by the expressway _ 21 NOV 101977 on it. Its in a location which is separateu 1'1., one empty block from the police headquarters and also, it is at the foot of the down ramp, the main down ramp that comes s down into the City from the expressway. It is a building which is designed in twr) Phases, which is a very easy thing ti: say, tut not a easy thing to do, the building has to live as phase I by itself and then also has to grow into phase II so that it must 1-le a work of art in either circumstance, we believe phase II is coming in the future, but we don't know hc. ' Ran' yr rs that will be, so cf course. phase I has to have a life of its own in that interim time. The phase I,--- would you remove phase II, so I can talk about. that alone----- is an L shape building, an open core, an open core which is open tc the natural air, its well protected, but it rle ns that its a shaded, Iron air ooa itl•Jned oore that services a very pia'21 L shape delivery part of t:hc: building, that shaded aiea is irr xortant w' think t.ir.luse it means you cane out of Miaini'3 sunlight into a Seeded place and then finally into:, the air condition, you have a kind of transition that goes on within each person who is using the building. There are central elevator of course, within the inside of the L a d those elevators have glass faces. not because 'ause we're trying to ck SAT0:U exceptionally posh, but because there is a safety tactor in an urban eluvator theta being recognized DC4, that there is far less t:rou:.,le with the elavators if they are visiable frim outside. Mayor L'erie: l.estt r, let me understand this right no.:', you going tc have a portmanteau type interior, atrium corridor, is that what you're saying? flU UU TBi.£ : Mayor Ferree: It opens up into a corridor? Mr. Pancoast: Yes, the--- this floor of the building will explain what I'rn tai ks ,1g ah-ut. The green area is a floor of phase I, the white is a floor of phase II. Mayor Ferre: I see. Mr. P`n ast: It shows you that the first phase can... Mayor Ferie: What are the little holes in the middle, like that one? You haste, c•:,,ats ter. Pancoast: This hole is where the elevators go continuously up through the buildina. 1iayor Ferre: Is that like a atrium? Mr . Pancoast: Yes, its really more like an elevator: that you're going up in u,:d you're seeing the levels go by as you go up through it, so that everything you're going to, which will display itself around you... Mrs. Gordon: I'll just sing around the elevator dc,ar, Lester ter. Pancoast: Yes, if its— the elevator door is on this side. Mrs. Gordon: Mats a nice concept. i'r. Panco st: the elevator is on the other side. Mfrs. Gordon: Yes, thats beautiful. Mayor. Ferre: Well, but let tie ask you Lester, if you reversed that and let toe }maple see---- you know, a larger scale as you yo lii) through the building, wouldn't it be a little bit, you hart-- I mean if you're going up a shaft and you're wat;i ing — zhe thins as the shaft goes h', it has a dizzy affect, if you go up on a glass elevator, the ones that I've seco and portra.ntreau made that such a great effect over the county or Omni, you're iooki"rxj out over a big scene, but to look at a shaft go by--- you kraw, why don't you reverse i t . Mr. Panccast: Well, what you're lookin at is a series of railings of balconies... Mrs. Gordon: You're looking through. • Pano)ast: And when you get up there you then aura 'out into an area which looks out over the Gulf, so it as a separator scene either one or the other you're seeing both, but in a different kind of sequence. Mayor Ferre: Alrigrit, now explain this to me again, is that a corridor, t1.at white area? �'fl`'1 _197? Mr. Pancst : This white area is the corridor Mayor Ferre: So therefore what you're going to be seeing is the railing and a corridor, are there doors there, is that all glass? Mr. Pancoast: You will see the only glass space in back of the elevator. Mayor Ferre: And what will you--- as I'm riding there and going up in this elevator, what am I going to be seeing? Glass, railings, doors? Mr. Pancoast: You're going to be seeing all of those things, its very much like the old cage elevators you will see in many European buildings. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, you're looking into the offices you're passing, you're seeing people moving, you're seeing... Mayor Ferre: Oh, then it will be glass then, the doors... Mr. Pancoast: The entrance... Mayor Ferre: No, no, the offices will all be glass. Mrs. Gordon: Yes. Mt. Panro st: This line here is all glass. Mayor Ferre: So, that as you go by you can look into the offices, you see. Mrs. Gordon: I like your plan, gee, thats neat, I really like that. Mayor Ferre: E pla.in to me what that box is on the outside, next to the elevators. Mr. Panonast: This is the core, this will be the toilets and one of the stairways of the building, its not drawn on this level, but it is there, but this will be a solid element that goes all the way up through the building and if I remove this piece I can show you that same portion... Mayor Ferre: Do the corridors open out into the open air or do they open into the air conditioning? It JJDTPT.F• Mayor Ferre: Yes, I see. Mrs. Gordon: Question with regard to the core of service area in the center, isn't that going to be then tying to the cores then of service area in the new building that will cage in afterwards? I see it in your plan there. IMAIJDTTIT F : Mrs. Gordon: Show me in the second phase where is that Dore area of bathrooms and other facilities. IN UDIBIE : Mrs. Gordon: And how is that met on the flat sheet, where is it, show me it on these. No, no, I mean just hold it up and show it to me, where is it? Mayor.Ferre: No, no, yes that, now put your finger on it there--- r»;.no, you just had it up there--- no, no on the flat surface Lester, just below that, now put you fingers where the elevators are. Mrs. Gordon: lhats the elevator. Mayor Ferre: Now, where are the bathrooms. Its. Gordon: Where are the bathrooms, the core? INAUDI13T F: Mayor Ferre: Yes. 29 NOV 1G1977 Mrs. Gordon: I see. Mayor Ferre: In other words you won't be looking as you go up in the elevator. Mrs. Gordon: No, my point was whether they were going to tie all the pluming Lae . to back, you know, whether the cores were going to rriLet in the center sane where because the stand point, you know, of course--- "oristruction. INAUDTTUTF• Mrs. Gordon: Thats what I was wondering. INAUDTALF Mrs. Gordon: Yes, its ok. Imuu R1.F Mayor Ferre: What are you going to do with that when you have the second phase up? INAUDTRT.r Mayor Ferre: Are you going to have street furniture or fountains or what? INAL?DTAT.F - Mayor Ferre: That will be the focal point of everything because as you walk a: n,: w its going to be a little bit like that florida power light building, where as you go from one place to the other and you're always looking down on this fountain down on the bottom. INAUDTAI.E : Mayor Ferre: Where is there provision for parking for the people? Mr. Plummer: No, that has not been asked, where is the parking structure that. pre 71y. exist? INAuDTRT.F Mayor Ferre: So you're going to leave an empty space in between? fl .LTDTTBLF . Mayor Ferre: The question is where are the people going to park when they go tr) this building? 1/WDTRT,F : Mr. Plummer: Is this the expressway? Mr. Pancxiast: Yes. Mr. Plummer: No, then the parking structure that exists; is between this builciuu: and the expressway. Mayor Ferre: I don't know, you're looking at it wrong, now, J. L. look... Mr. Plummer: Where is 3rd street or where is 4th street? INALIDThr Mr. Plummer: 'hats correct. INAUDJBrF: Mr. Plummer: You don't have a parking structure there. Mayor Ferre: 3 . L.? Mr. Planer: Its there. _ 30 NOV1 INAUDIBLE. Mrs. Gordon: ... further over. Mayor Ferre: J. L., look, will you cane over here and let me show you what he is doing. Mr. Plummer: What is this building here. Mr. Panrnast: This building here? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mr. Pancoast: This building here? It is the first phase of the new... Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, I thought that was the police station. INAiJDIRT E: Mrs. Gordon: You see, you got a one track mind J. L. IM1JDTRT.E: Mr. Plummer: Tell me what this is up here, is this 3rd street here? INAIJDTRT F Mayor Ferre: I hope you don't knock down any of those old oaks. Mr. Pancoast: I didn't hear that, would you repeat that? Mayor Ferre: Can you keep those old oaks. INAIJDTRT F • Mrs. Gordon: How many square feet Lester, in the first phase? IhALJDTRT F Mrs. Gordon: How much is the usable space, you know, office space? INAUDTRTi • Mayor Ferre: How much of that is to be used idiately--- Mr. Grassie, you better listen to all of these questions. Mrs. Gordon: How many stories high is it Lester? DUDTRT F • Mrs. Gordon: 12,000 on each then, huh. INAUDTRI P: Rayor Ferre: Pedestrian oonnectory, you know, thats the new thing, everybody wants to... Itrr"1UDTRT.F Mayor Ferre: And the police so that we can walk from one building to another, to the other at a non -ground INMUDTRTY. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I mean are you providing for it in your designs, so that you don't have to redesign the whole thing. INALIDTRLF: Mayor Ferre: I'm talking about connecting the police building with the City of Miami, administration building when you build this thing or soon thereafter. 31 NOV 101977. INAUDDItr.1 Mayor Ferre: That line would not tie as I understand geometry any way, It doesn't tie the police building, haw are you going to tie it unless you're going to walk down... D JDiATF.: Mayor Ferre: I see. ItAI1DTRT.R : Mayor Ferre: But in other wards that is being taken into consideration? Mrs. Gordon: Lesterlyou're speaking about another parking garage to service this development, correct? IIA[7DIRI E: Mt. Plummer: So what you would really be doing is tying a peaPstrian walkway from the police department to that parking and from that parking.i.. Mr. Reboso: Lester is it a covered walkway? INAUDTRIE: Mayor Ferre: Is it Covered, is what I guess he is asking? Mr. Grassie, of the 52,000 net usable square feet, how much of it would be used by the building department, you know, planning, public works, fire,--- is it all to be used, do you need all 52,000. Mr. Grassie: The anticipation is that the departments that will be moved out of the barracks will and the fire department will occupy richly all of the space) yes. Mayor Ferre: Where is the City Manager's office going to be? Mr. Grassie: I will anticipate right here where it is now. Mayor Ferre: So in other words in this first phase we don't move anything out of this particular building other than whets mentioned in there? Mr. Grassie: Thats correct. Mayor Ferre: But for explain building service is in here, vending, the building dint, planning department, planning and zoning, public works, and the fire department, none of then are in this structure right here, is that correct? Mr. Grassie: Mats correct. Mayor Ferre: So in other words all we're really moving there in this first page is whets out in the so call barracks? It. Grassie: ... yes. Mayor Ferre: And thats 52,000 square feet. Mr. Grassie: Yes. Mayor Ferre: So the full 52,000 will ok. Mr. Plummer: What is the second building, what is that? ]I+�LIDTRTF: Mayor Ferre: Lester, I assume that somewhere, someplace down the line, whether it is five years or 20 years from now, that the future Commission is going to want to move the full City Hall dean to this area, :I would hope that you would take it into consideration, public rooms where 'you need to seal at least three hunderd people and I rare nber Mia¢ni Beach, in my opinion, its.a 'beautiful building but they made a bad mistake in that, they put the City Chamber too, small and then the argument was,--- well if we need a bigger eitv co mLiss innAmetina we'll have to gc over to the auditorium. Well, they're going to have to go to the auditorium .just about every meeting, because they get more than 200 people, which as I recall was the design. I would hope what ever you do in that second phase,-- you're 32 N O V 101977 not designing that, I understand that--- but I would hope--- obviously what ever is done here, thats casted into it, because there is no way that this is going to be done this way and the rest of it not be pursued in a similar fashion, so I think its important that--- Mr. Manager, that we go sufficiently into this, that we have schematics and space perimeters and what have you, worked out so that we know where we're going, including public rooms, the Catmiss_-,.,'s offices, the Mayor's offices, the future expansions and so on. MAUD "MT Mayor Ferre: Yes, but the master plan also has for the consolidation and merger of the City of Miami, with Metropolitan Dade County you see and the master plan has been wrong for 20 years and if I have my guess, its going to be wrong for another 20 years and therefore I think that the City of Miami, must maintain its independence as a going governmental entity and I doubt it may not, it may go down the drain, but,... IMUDTRT :: Mayor Ferre: Is that the City Hall Chambers? UDTRLE : Mayor Ferre: Thats where it should be, accessible to the people, right down cn the ground floor. 0TDTRLF : Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this question, haw many square feet in that second phase? INAUDTRT.F: Mayor Ferre: Of course, thank you... INAJDTPTr. Mayor Ferre: Haw much? So what you're saying is that if a future Commission, if we start taking over Metro, rather than then taking us over, you could make that instead of 10 stories, you could go 13 or 14 or something like that, so its all depending as to what our needs are in the future. INAUDTRTP • Mrs. Gordon: Is the foundation for the first phase such that it could be made into a higher building? Mayor Ferre: 'Mats a good question. IIAUDTRT.F : Mrs. Gordon: No, no, I mean the first phase, which is the 5 story phase. Mayor Ferre: Lester, she's talking about what we're going to do now, what she's saying is that could you put the foundations to go up another two stories it you need it or three or one. Mrs. Gordon: Cr what ever, can you construct it so that it would--- you know, could stand an expansion in height at some future time? INW.IDTPaY. Mrs. Gordon: You wouldn't want -to go above? INAUDI RT F • Mayor Ferre: In other words, that one becomes the main structxire in all senses INAUDTTP: Mayor Ferre: How are you going to treat the roof space, since you're going to be looking down on the roof fruit the taller building. _ 33 N O V 1 01977 _.. INAUDIBLE. Mayor Ferre: Yes, thats my question. INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: Are you going to put plants there, are going to just paint it in colors or have a... Mrs. Gordon: Tennis court up there. Mayor Ferre: Miniaturegolf course or what? INAUDIBLE Mt. Plummer: What about a mini park. INAUDIBLE: Mr. Plummer: Not necessarily the public, my god you're going to have what, 3,000 employees down there. INADDIRI J• Mayor Ferro Well, if you design it properly and you don't go in for big trees and all that, green growing things are really like that aspAragus fern that every- body hate so much, I happen to like it because I rather have that then just --- at lust its a green growing thing. fl DTAI,F• Mayor Ferre: Did it work or not? INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: Lester, on the other hand, I don't know yet of a pretty roof that I've ever seen, have you ever seen one? IIUDTBTF Mayor Ferre: Narrc me one. Mrs. Gordon: What. Mayor Ferre: Pretty roof. Mrs. Gordon: I'd like to see vitalized sane where or other, you know, these people that sit at a desk, maybe we will give them a chance to go up on the roof and run around. Give then a track up there. INAUDTBLI Mayor Ferro: No, thats not the question, I think what everybody ls trying to say is plan for it so that, you know, these are alternatives that when we do have the money to do these things, that perhaps same future Commission could do it and you see what I would hate for you to do is, is for you to design and sc that ten years from now somebody comes up and says, well you know, we'd like to have a nice little garden or wed like to have a day care center up there or we'd like .to have tennis courses and somebody says well you know the roof won't take that weight, it wasn't designed properly... 1 1UDIBLF: Mayor Ferre: You mean if somebody want to put a track for everybody to go jogging at midday or I don't know what... Mrs. Gordon: I tell -you what Maurice, lets have a contest, let them paint Your roof. Mayor Ferre: ...? Mts. Gordon: Yes, then only airplanes can use it..— some weight huh? _ 34 NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you what that white space is in the middle of the green? INAIJDTBT F.: Mayor Ferre: Yes. INAUDTRTF,: Mayor Ferre: Is that escalators or is that stair? INAjJDTRT.F Mayor Ferre: Why do you need stairs and its not fire stags, you're telling me, it doesn't meet the code requirements. fl JDTRT.F, Mayor Ferre: Its for a code? INAUDTRTR Mayor Ferre: You know,--- nobody is going to go up more than one or two stories, so what you're saying is that it a fire code, is that it? INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: Thats an awfully large space Lester, as compared to your public area in the corridor there, why is it so large? INAUDTRLE: Mayor Ferre: No sir the fire--- thats INAUDTRLF. Mayor Ferre: Isn't that kind of value space for you to be dedicating to a stair well and a fire place out in the outer surface of the building' iNALIDTRTF • Mayor Ferre: Well, then the statement that you made 'o other central was the mechanical, isn't quite so. INAUDIRTF• Mayor Ferre: Its a split. I.NAIJDTAT F • Mayor Ferre: Bathrooms. IJDTRT F • Mayor Ferre: The toilets. Now, how cone--- what do you have in this oorner? INAUDTRT.F Mayor Ferre: Elevator and stairwell, anything else, any wet walls? -. INALIDTTILr. Mayor Ferre: Well, then it isn't as all concentrated as you said in the core, then INAIJDTBTP: Mayor Ferre: No, I was very happy that you had achieved that, because that sounds very efficient, but now the fact is that we have two. Let me ask you this, up on the other side are you going to have that same box up there too? ' JDTRTY : NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: So you don't have the split fun,_ ions? INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Well, now let me ask you this, since you have a mirror building, one or the others as far or not completely, but nearly as far a square footage and what have you, how can you get away from not :laving a stairwell up in the other corner and yet you have to have one to meet the fire requirements here and the other ones are taller buildings. DIAUDTRT.E: Mayor Ferre: INAUDTRTI:• Mayor Ferre: INAUDIRLE. Mayor Ferre: jTRT11: Mayor Ferre: iNALIDTAT P • Cover. And yet you need to have three for the small structure? Isn't there a open core here? Oh, thats completely enclosed? Mayor Ferre: WAats that little box down in the corner, down here in the bottom of that triangle--- no, the other one, thats the stairwell. INAUDTra.r. Mayor Ferre: The elevators. fTRT.r. Mayor Ferre: And is that all the corridor space in between that box and the other box? Yes, thats all corridor. Alright, now whets the box next to the corridor, that box right there. INAUDTRTP: Mayor Ferre: Yes. INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: But that is all enclosed, is that air conditioned? INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: And is that glass, will people be able look out over the atrium so to speak? INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: Where is the door for the air condition portion of the corridor, where is it, where the green line is? As you go from the old building from the rebuilding, where do you have to open the door to get in, since yon.said one is open and the other cores are air conditioned, so then that whole corridor is open. INAUDTPJF . Mayor Ferre: Trots an open corridor there. IDTRTF Mayor Ferre: And whats that little box on this side next to the corridor? ITAIJDT LE: Mayor Ferre: Ok, I don't• have any further questions. 36 Nov 101977 Mayor Verne: How are you going to treat the outside surfaces, is this going to be... INAUDIRLE: Mayor Ferre: You're getting into bricks agairlester? INAUDIBLE: Mayor Ferre: Are we going to have a brick building? Georgia brick. INAUDTRT F : Mayor Ferre: Well, what are you going to do then, be just block and ... INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Are there any over hangs in that surface? INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Well, thats my question. How does this elevation read, as I look and thats it. INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Are those windows fixed or do you have the ability to open then? INAUDTRT.F, • Mayor Ferre: You have the corridor, so that will read very well and you'll have shadows on that, but I'm worried about this north face and the west face, which is what most people will see, because most people see that building from the expressway. IIUDTRTF • Mayor Ferre: Thats exactly why I'm asking the question, how is that going to read? I mean, its not going to be a plain flat surface, its going to have shadow, its going to read, its going to have some texture to it. INAUDTRLF. Mayor Ferre: Ok, alright, any other questions? INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Alright. W. Plummer: How long does it take the construction? INAUDIBLE• Mayor Ferre: Very good. Alright, further questions? If not do you need any action today? Alright, thank you very much Mr. Pancoast. 37 NOV 101977 FIRST & SECOND READING ORDINANCE: REPEAL SECTIONS 30-14 AND AMEND 30-28 OF THE CITY CODE ENLARGING DEFINITION OF "UwIBITION LICENSE" AT DINNER KEY ALm, AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE REPEALING 30-14 AND AMENDING 300----2 AMENDED, OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI , AM WHI I PROVIDES A GE SCHEDULEE OF PI ATIONAL PS THE CLASSIFICATION LICENSE FEES, BY DELETING TRH R " INDIVIDUAL EXHIBITION" AT OF AND Y� REQUIRED �T PARK AUDITORIUMS, AND BY ENLARG- ING KEY AND BAYF THE DEFINITION OF AN EXHIBITION LICENSE AT DINNER KEY AUDITORIUM 7O INCLUDE AN EXHIBITION AT DINNER KEY EXPOSITION FACII.,ITY AUDITORILM R�� FRONT PARK TIME RESTRICTIONS F THE UPONAMERICAS AUDITORIUM; FURTHER UPON THE LICENSING PERIOD; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPEPATE DAYS BY A COTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of November loth was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the and adOrdinandcbY was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and pa ssedthe following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8721. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. NOV 101977 1 A , EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: MAKING CERTAIN APPROPRIATIONS TO VARIOUS PRIVATE NON- PROFIT AGENCIES RECEIVING FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLII} AN ORDINANCE MAKING GAIN APPROPRIATIONS TO THE VARIOUS PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AGENCIES WHICH RECEIVED FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND MAKING SUCH APPROPRIATIONS CHARGEABLE TO THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1977 - 78; DECLARING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIRE- MENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT I P S THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE OOMMISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote - AYES: Cmmissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Cmmmissioner Rose Gordon Camtmdssioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Oommissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOF'S: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8722. NOV 101977 B. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND ORDINANCE 87U7- PROVIDE INCREASE IN DEPARTMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS CHARGEABLE TO FISCAL YEAR 1977-1978, AN ORDINANCE ENPrILED- AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 8707, ADOPTED SEPTE4BER 30, 1977, BY AMENDING SECTIONS 1 AND 2 THEREOF; PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN DEPART, - MENTAL APPROPRIATIONS, AND MAKING SIXH APPROPRIATIONS CHARGEABLE TO THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1977-78 WHEN ADOPTED; DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE NEVBERS OF THE COMMISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote - AYES: Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Reboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote - Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOM: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESI(TID ORDINANCE NO. 8723. 40 NOV 101977 16. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: MEND SECTION 1 OF L,-NOTNANCF 8719 - ESTABLISH 7 NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUNDS, RESOURCES & APPROP1,LA" 'n4':S FOR THEIR OPERATION, AN ORDINANCE F2rrn- AN ENERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SE7CTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719, ADOPTED COMBER 26, 1977, THE 1E sumbs;,RY GRANT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, CE, BY EST.''.Bi., ISi i I.NG SEVEN NEW TRUST ANT) AGENCY FUNDS: IAKI143 ADJL' S7' : 1'F IN EXIST TRUST AND AG ICY FUNDS; AND APPROPRIATING :'LTNIZ FOR THE OPERA- TIC1Iv OF ME SEVEN NE '1'IlUST AND ?,;'�:: fi'=" F Y.%1os ; 1 PEAL,TNG ALL ORDINANC - OR PARIS (JF ORDIN7-t/ _rS IN COITLICT EERE-- WITi; ANT) C NTAIN12'}G A SE',;E;I ILITi Pi-1.1WIISION ; DECIARNG THIS ORDINANCE TO BE AN EMERGENCY M N:3IIP'E AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUITEMENT OF READING THE SASE ON 'I« SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN OJTE .-F i'rcHs OF THE I I'MBE S OF ME a iISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Plunrrer and st_couded by Geruassioner Reboso, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensi.rnj with the requirement of reading same on two sepwate days, which was agreed to Ly the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Cordon; Commissioner J. L. PIuitoex, Jr. Commissioner Nanolo R Lxoso Vice -Mayor Thendore Gfoson Mayor Maurice A. :el -re NC S : None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of C,missloner Plumes and seconded by Commissioner Peboso, adopted said ordinance by the following vote - ANTS: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummet, Jr. Commissioner Nanolo Fr-b )so Vice Mayor 'Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Fire mks: None . SAID ORDINANLT WAS DESIGN7.TE D ORDINANCE iYJ. 8724. 17. DISCUSSION ITEM: RAPID TRANSIT PEOPLE MOVER SYSTEM. Mayor Ferre: Listen, while we're on the subject of rapid transit and all this kind of stuff, 1 want to tell the members of the Commission, that the Westinghouse Corporation is pitting on a big show today, one is at 11:30, which is right now and the other one is at 4:30, including cocktails and what have you, the purpose of it is to show how people movers worked and explain then and have movies and they've got models and all kind of stuff. I strongly recommend that as many of you as can make it, either right now at noon Cr at 4:30, that you be there because I think thats one of the reel key important things coring up in the next year and the more important you are, I tnink the better you will be able to make a decision on it. As I've said before I'rn going to recameil3 eventually, that the City of Miami, Pose, make its own application for a people, rather than.to go through Metro, btoause we've been going like this and if •wu keep on going like this and if the people e turn dawn rapid transit, I wouldn't. want to see the people mover go down with it, not that I'm expressing in any 'way and feeling that the rapid transit is going to go down, I feel strongly the t its going to pass, but I would hope that we would certainly have the dexter.ity,nimbleness and flexibility. Mr. ?l.urtrer : Mil. Mayor, let me-- where is r'c,::ir rc:.c i? Mr. Mayor, let me make a recormendation at this time for consideration: at the next Commission meeting. A1r. Grassie and :Qr.. Fbsnoen, as I as an individual---- its not important how I feel, it is important, but I think that rapid transit to this City is more important than to any other community. I think that rapid transit is a must, there is no question in my Lind. Now, I think it then behooves you Mr. `rbsroen, or your department, that you come up with a game plan or reoarrme:ndtions or something to put before _ 4 N o V 1 01977 this Carrnission at the next Octrmission meeting, as to what we can do to sucrpssfully represent the feeling of our citizenry and thats an it ortance in this referendum. Now, I just r-n't be- you kfG, , I'm riot reaii:1 , its got probl€Tns there is not questions and I think thiv're resolvable, but I thin that the crucial. test is coming because if that tiring fails its all over :ug:: aoing to have 195's built 3.8 lanes wide and % just ttiii:-i this has got to get in to the hot water and be helpful because we are the one who u- - yaing to be the biggest recipients. Noa, your dearttrent I feel is that department which should cape forth with some alternative actions that this i i,xr:.i.ssior, can to protect its citizenry and making sure that. this rapid transit is dome like it should be dome.. So, I'm hoping Mr. Mayor, through you edril 4:it the L._ :r:.val. oi: the Ccxrraisslon, that tJ-,e can exser . the time necessary to come fordh through th.is Ccrrrnission with recarmencat.ior.s. Mayor Ferre: Alright, anything else? a► ACCEPT CCWLEf LD WRK: URBAN MIIN1-PARK - 40 W, IAGLER STREET. Tne following resolution was introduced by C iinissionex Plummer, who roved its adoption: RESULT-11'0N '77--873. A RESOLUTION AC EI'TIl G 'i41E ..Y) i'LET'i . WORK PERFORMED I3Y C . A. DAV I S , t R:. AT A 'IOTAL COST OF $143, 439.00 FOR tJk i A N MrN1 - PARK--46 WEST FLAMER SIR1 `T-19 7 n , AND Airli1URI Z iNG A FINAL ?AYMEM' OF $14,79?•90 (Here fo1 is body of reso1 utlon cxtini tted here and on file in the office ofthe City Clerk.) Upon being s cond€-i by V i ;'u -t yor C 1.bso , , the r esc lution was passed and adopted by the folloairY vote- AYES:r CcI1\t V.SSiCll._I Ron (..ki-C:..ail (,fynrissloJ1 r J. L. Calms s s fl r f ino1 Ci Vice -Mayor 'Ihroeibre Gibson Mayor 1• .trice A. Fevre NOES: None. NOV 101977 19, A1m oRlzE CI`r M R - POST, BUCI ILY, ,,JUH 8 JERNIGAN, INC, PTO PROVIDE LAND, TO ENTER MGT.- ` - AERIAL SURVEYING 8 SOILS TESTING SERVICES FOR THE WATSON ISLAND PROJECT. The following resolution was introduced by Ni..ce-N4yor Gibson, who malted its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-872 A RESOWrION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WIM POST, BUCKLFY, SCHUH AND JERNIGAN, INC. TO PERe0RM SURVEYS AND SOILS INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE WATSON ISLAND DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $21,000, PLUS OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES FOR RELATED SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED $10,000, FROM THE PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES HOMED FUNDS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Ma olo Reboso Vicc-Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 21 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO MOT ORDER NO, 93 OF THE STATE OF FLA, PROVIDING THAT CITY OF MIAMI MAY CONTINUE OPERATING VIRGINIA KEY DISH DISPOSAL PIT. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-873 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONSENT ORDER NO. 93 OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPAMMENT OF ENVIRONIWEAL REGULATION, ATION, A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO AND MADE APART HERDOF PRO- VIDIM THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI MAY CONTINUE TO OPERATE ITS VIRGINIA KEY RUBBISH DISPOSAL PIT UNTIL APRIL 15. 1978, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS. (Here follows body of resolution, emitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- : Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Hanolo Rebaso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ICES : None. 43 • • NOV 101977 21. CO FIRMING RESOLUTION: APPOINT PATRLCIA KOLSKI AS MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD' The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption RESOUY I NO. 77-874 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING PATRICIA M. KOLSKI, THE CURRENTALMINATE MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD, AS A MEMBER CF 7HE ZONING BOARD TO FILL THE TERM OF GROVER P. TMLXER, WHICH WIRES DECEMBER 31, 1979. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the office of the City Clerk . ) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plumper, Jr. Commissioner Ma olo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre t : None. 22. COINFIRMING RESOLUTION: RE -APPOINT H. GORDON WILLIE TO OFFSTREET PARKING BOARD' The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-875 A RE4OLLTPICN CONFIRMING NG THE REAPPOINIMEW OF H. GORDON WILLIE TU THE OFF-Si' PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIANII, FLORIDA (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Cammissioner Plug, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - A ES: Commissioner mi.ssioner Fie Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner bolo Reboso Vioe-Gordon ire Gibson Nayc x Maurice A . Ferre 44 NOV 101977 aa, CONFIRMING RESOLUTION: RE -APPOINT DIAN- SMITH TO THE OFFSTREET PARKING BOARD. The following resolution was introduced by Vice -Mayor Gibson, who moved its adoption: Ur on beina RESOLUTION O. 77-876 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMIING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF DIANNE SMITH TO THE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clark.) seconded by Ccrrrissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote - AYES: Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner ssioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner issioner Manolo Peboso Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. the resolution was 24. CREATE AND ESTABLISH THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE, and on file passed and The following resolution was introduced by Vice -Mayor Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-877 A RESOLUTION CREATING AND ESTABLISHING THE Milli ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF REVID ING MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE YOUTH OF THIS CITY; FURTHER DESCRIBING THE COMMITTEE'S STRUCTURE, TERMS OF OFFICE, AND PROVIDING FOR INITIAL APPOINT IT'S OF INDIIIIDLIS TO SERVE ON THIS UOMMIiTEL . (Here follows body of resolution, emitted here in the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plumer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Merio10 R boso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor M urice Ferre 45 and on file NOV 101977 25. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE IN LIEU OF CONnFMNATION r- RESIDENCE AND LOT AT 91 N.E. 62 STREET. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-878 A RESOLUTION AUT ORI Z ING THE, CITY MANAGER TO BASE IN LIEU OF CXN ENTIATION, A RFSID AND LC7T COMPRISED OF 9 500 SQ . FT., LOCATED AT 91 NORTHEAST 62nd STREET, MIAMI , FLORIDA, FOR THE SUM OF F L1 T -SIX THOUSAND ($56,000.00) DOLLARS, 7,211) ALLOCATING FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND (S57,000.000) COLLARS FR71 FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION & RESCUE FACILITY BONDS TO DOVER THE COST OF ACQUISITION iISITION OF 111, SIMPLE TITLE 'ID THIS PPSJPERTY AND OTHER COSTS INCIDENTAL TO THE ACQUISITIOE'L tr el (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by V.ict -Mayoi Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - ANTS: Commissioner J. L. Plulm-cu , Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ICES: None. 26. ACCEPT DEED OF DEDICATION RIGHT-OF-WAY ABUTTING N.E. 8OTH TERR. NEAR N.E. 2ND AVENUE. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-879 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A DF'tsl OF DEDICATION CONVEYING TO THE CITY OF F I MI CERTAIN STRIPS OF' RESERVED ZONED WID?i3 RIGHT-OF•-WT.Y Ai3UTI'Trr, N. E. 80th TERRACE NTJI% N. E. 2nd AVENUE, FOR HIGHWAY IIrIPR VTI. F: '!', FL1) WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRAr 9 : ,� ; AND AITI1 iORI Z I NG AM) DIRECT- ING THE PROPER OFFICIAL '10 RECORD L-MATT) DEED IN THE PUBLIC RDT)RDS OF U? DE C XThTI i' , FLORIDA. (Here follows body of re.)lutio: , omitted here and on file in the Office of the Cite Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Viet--M;ryor Cil�: _u,, tl:,:, resolution was passed and adopted by the following vute- AYES: 1111.( q� (;itr c,ri Carlmusu(1tu'1 P[)St li�IC�i)11 Calinissicnul" J. J. 1'1Ulrutu., Jr. Oommi s s j uflt u M r r Y')1() i i mhosc ) Mayor Maw i •. • A. 1 'crt NOES: None. 46 NOV 101977 276 DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATING TO GRP«T EASEMENT FOR ACCESS TO THE PALISADES GEOPHYSICAL INSTITUTE/ ..r Mayor Ferre: On 24, I'd like to know, I looked 4c that and I have same concern about that. W. Plummer: Well, bring it up this afternoon. Mr. Reboso: This afternoon. Mayor Ferre: NO, no, its very simple, Mc. Knox, it changes the worn comfortable to suitable, would you tell me whats the difference--- I mean why should we give there suitable, I mean what we said we would do is give there comfortable, why should trey get more. Vt. Knox: T_ ran look into that if we take it up later. Nr. Plummer: Ybve that it be deferred. Mayor Ferre: ?here is a rtoti.on that item 24, ;x: deferred until we get as to uty we need to go fran comfortable to suitable, which in my opinion, puts City Carmi.ssion and the legal responsibility of giving more than what we had originally agreed to do, its got to be a reason, for that. Ws. Gordon: Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plunner: Mayor Ferre: Firs. Gordon: M r' € 25. So, call the roll on the postponement of... Oh, is this an indefinite postponement or are just Clarification. Until they clarify it. Will you have it late;. George, today. until later? Mr. Knox: I can have it later today... Mrs. Gordon: You would, well we don't need a motion then. Mayor Ferre: Well, then we don't need a motion, we're bring it back again. 47 a clear ansWC.- the NOV iut977 l rP 28. AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURE OF $1,500 TO IMPLEMENT PILOT PROJECT KNOwv AS "CREATIVE CURRENTS" FOR MURALS ON BLDGS, IN COCONUT GROVE AREA. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-880 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPEND $1, 500 TO IMPLEMENT THE Pinar PROJECT OF THE C1MMUNTIY SERVICE ORGANIZA- TION ENCWN AS "CREATIVE CURRENTS", CALLING FOR THE PAINTING OF MURALS ON 4 PRINCIPAL BUILDINGS AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION OF McFARIAND ROAD, GRAND AVENUE AND MAINE HIGHWAY, WIm FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM M THE QUALITY OF LIFE Accouwr IN THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS AND OCMMUNITY PROGRAMS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner M3nolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ICES: None. 29, DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE ABOLISHING CITY OF MIAMI LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. Mayor Ferre: 26. Mrs. Gordon: I don't know, I read thaw-- you know, it says we shall not we did have much to say about it in the first place really. Mayor Ferre: Wry does the City Manager recommend this? Would you explain why you're recommending this. _ Mr. Grassie: This Mr. Mayor, is part of a continuing effort on the part of our staff to bring your boards and committees and Commissions up to date and make sure that they are active and straighten then out. If you remember the problem that we had .in having the City Commission appoint people to this board at a time when the county had taken different action and we actually had f:wci sets of three people who thought they were appointed to the same job and we finally worked through that embarrassment. What we're trying to do is make sure that that doesn't happen again, if you would like same further moment on it, Bob Homan, has been working on it most closely. Mayor Ferre: Alright, we'll take it up this afternoon. 48 NOV 101977 30. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN ,:REEMENT WITH FOOD SERVICES, INC, -CONCESSION RIGHTS AT NEW MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT, The following resolution was introduced by C:c;,rmissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-881 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN ' er'D ID! WITH FOOD SERVICES, INC. FOR THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSION RIGHTS AND FACILITIES AT THE NEW MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING, FOR A TERM CF THREE YEARS WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the.resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon cmnissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NCE5: None. ABSENT: Crnmissioner Manolo Raboso 3!, ACCEPT PLAT: PLAZA "VENETIA" - PHASE I - 545 N.E, 15TH STREET. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who raced its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-882 A RE:SOLJI'ION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLE PLAZA VENETIA PHASE I SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIANII, FLORIDA; AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ICES: None. ABSF2JT: Cnr nissioner Manolo Reboso 49 NOV 101977 32. ACCEPT PLAT: DEL MAZO SUBDIVISION. 7ihe following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: • RESOLUTION NO. 77-883 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED DEL MAZO SUBDIVISION, AS SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT, AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Cordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Marnlo Reboso 33, ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-41., The following resolution was introduced by Vice -Mayor Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-884 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF D.M.P. CORPROATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $155,178 FOR CENTRAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-41; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $155,178 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "STORM SEWER BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMOUNT OF $17,070 TO OOVER THE OOST OF PROJI= E ENSE: ALLOCATING FROM SAID ACCOUNT THE AMDUNT OF $3,103 TO C2 THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE TE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resloution, omitted here and on file i t the office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resloution was passed and adopted by the following vote-- AYES: Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSIIN!: Ccamissioener Manalo Reboso 50 NOV 101977 34, ACCEPT BID; ELECTRONIC CALCULATORSi The following resolution was introduced 17' Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: RESQWTION NO. 77-885 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF NONE CALCULATOR COMPANY FOR FURNISHING TEN ELECTRONIC CALCULATORS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT A TOTAL COST OF _ $5,603.50; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1976-77 GENERAL FUND; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson 0 Mayor Maurice A. Ferre A NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Manolo Reboso 35, PERSORAL APPE NE: HERBERT HIu.ER - FARMERS' MARKET, Mayor Ferre: Alright, Herb Hiller has been sitting here patiently all day,--- has long is it going to take you to address the Commission Herb? Mr. Hiller: A few minutes. Mayor Ferre: Alright, you got two minutes. Mr. Hiller: Thank you, I'm happy to tell the Commission, about the opening of the Coconut Groves Farmer's Market, an out door market that will open on the 19th of November, and every saturday there after on a vacant lot on Grand Avenue between Margret and MacDcmald, next to Roy's Barbecue, a well krxxzn landmark. This is an all volunteer market, there will be many farmers coming up from Homestead, there will some cuban farmers, there will be long haired farmers, there will be kids picking the fruit of trees, the 19th of November is the opening at 8, in the morning, it will run trough the early afternoon, there's going to be a lot of produce, it will be fresh,--- same organic. Mrs. Gordon: Oh, I with 1 was here, I'm going to be out of town. Mr. Hiller: At the lowest possible prices, there will be entertaift nt , people from Pacer helping, the Miami Black Arts Council, local boysoout: txopp, any number of others, it will go every saturday we hope all y ar around. Mrs. Gordon: Is it going to be a weekly thing? Mr. Biller: Yes, every saturday. We hope it will be fun, entertaining, instructional, there will be a bike maintenance clinic every week, all kinds of things of that sort. We encourage the Commissioners to please come out if at all possible... Mrs. Gordon: I'll be out of town on the 19th, sure wish I was here, the next one after that will be the week after? - 51 NOV 101977 Nee Hiller: The 26th and every saturday... Mrs. Gordon: Ok, I'll be one of his customers. Mr. Hiller: Every saturday we hope you'll came out, I do want to ask the Commission if we can get the support of the City to get sore additional dumpsters around there because there will be a bit of trash and after the Goon Bay Festival in June, I regret to say I hadn't asked for enough of those, but we can get same dumpsters around there and maybe... Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask a question, is this farmer's market being put on by a private person for profit? Mr. Hiller: Its being done strictly by volunteers not for profit-, the only... Mr. Plummer: Noone is making a profit? Mr. Hiller: We only hope the fanners make some money for the sale of their produce. Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry that I asked the question. Mr. Hiller: Its not being done for profit, its all volunteer. Mr. Plummer: Well, then I think the City should do what they can to help you. Mr. Hiller: And we would ask if its possible to have the police be cognizant of the act. Mayor Ferre: I'm sure they will be. Mr. Hiller: Thank you very much and we hope to see you. Mrs. Gordon: Herb, the site location specifically is on what? Mr. Hiller: Its in the vacant lot,--- we been-- the lot is privately owned, we've been given the rent of one dollar, its a nonninal rent for the use, we're going to acme in and clear out the weeds, the broken bottles and the trash. Mt:. Plummer: Just to control it, sure. Mr. Hiller: I thank you very much for you attention. BRIEF DISCUSSiar ITEM: WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK, Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, before we break. Mr. Manager? Mr. Grassie: Yes. ifir. Plummer: I hate to bring this up, but I got to, because its bothering me and I hope the Mayor will listen. Mr. Manager, after lunch when we return from our break,— I'sn a little concerned about this festival this weekend, there is a lot of grumbling going an within police epart ment, I've seen figures 1' . in the paper anywhere from 20,000 to 0,000. I would like if nothing more to satisfy my conscience that the Mama er and the department, mane back this afternoon and tell us and give a true picture as you see, whats going to happen to this up coming weekend and give this Commission assurances that its rot going to be a disaster. Cat? Mr. Grassie: Certainly, we will report to you Commissioner, this afternoon, but renumber that um all went_into this recognizing that there is risk involved. ?.t . Plummer: Well, I want. -to know boa much that element of risk is a little bit Immre concise. . 52 NOV 101977 A PLAQUES, PRESQITAT1ONS AND SPECIAL HEMS, W. Isocratps D'Oliviera, Consul of Brazil; Mr. Deniza Maci(21 and Mr. Augusto Baldoni, Commerical Officers of the Consulate; are present to sign the OAS Trade Fair a reem nt for their country. Also present will be Evelio Le:, Alan Rodgers, and Charlie Creston. Presentation of a 30 ynnr service pin to Chief Don Hickman. Presentation of Cuban -American Day proclamation to Dr. Manolo Reyes. Presentation of Dia del Camagueyano Ausente proclamation tc Era. Maria Crespi, Municipio de Camaguey en el E>:ilio. Presentation of Little River Festival day proclamation to Lauraine Dunn, Little River Commerce Association. Presentation of First Christian Church Day proclamation to Pastor Keith Elliot. Presentation of Semana del Vendedor proclamation to Ernesto Fernandez and Manuel Vega, Asociacion de Vendedores de la Florida. Presentation of a 30 year service pin to Percy Brawn, Department of Parks and Recreation. 38, PERSa1AL APPEARVICE: HERBERT LEE SIMON CONCERNING PARKING LOT LIGHTING, Mayor Ferre: At this time we are in the afternoon session, the first thing to cane before us in the afternoon session was a personal appearance by Mr. Herbert Lee Simon in reference to the City of Miami parking. The parking lots. Mr. Plummer: And they went out and fought single handealy for our Orange Bowl Improvements. Mrs. Gordon: Hey, there was a team efford, wasn't it Herbie, hah? Mr. Simon: I think I might as well leavr. now. Mayor Ferre: You guys know how to hurt a guy. Mrs. Gordon: I don't knaa, you fellows never give a woman a do. Mayor Ferre: Thats right. Mt. Plummer: We'd like to give it to you Rose, you just won't accept it. Mrs. Gordon: Well, I don't want one if you want to do. W. Simon: I can already see a no vote coming on what ever I present. W. Plummer: We just increase the wattage, what the hell are you talking about. Mr. Simon: First J. L. and... Mayor Ferre: All I can say is I want you to, when you drive out to Fort Lairlerdale, in another couple of years to go watch the foothhl:. games up there that when you drive up there you remember the Orange Bowl and its glorious splendid... Mr. Plummer: And I want you to see that well lit parking lot they've got in the 5 NOV 1 01977 new football stadium, in Broward County. Mr. Simon: May I take an hour to rebut that Nit. Mayor? Mrs. Gordon: Are you going to... Mr. Sinop: Yea, I'll her, right. Anyway, are you ready? Mr. Plummer: Been ready. Mt. Reboso : 1 ' m waiting. Mr. Simon: Ok, to begin with, when .it said personal appearance of myself, I want to make it clear I'm appearing here on behalf of the Miami Pcerd of Realitors, by the way they were the ones W. Mayor, not me. The parking lot lighting Ordinance which Ordinance number 8115 was enacted about 4 years ago by the City of Miami and this ordinance requires all apartment buildings four units and up to have lots lit from to dawn with a specified candle power. All commercial buildings have their lots lit to the same degree and all commercial lots garages lit to an even higher degree of lighting, although this was enacted four years ago, the City of Miami, has not brought its own n lots up to code for example: the Orange Bowl lot, :•Iatsor Island parking and Dinner Key. I don't see how the City of Miami, can expect the-- can enforce this ordinance against its citizens when it isn't complying with its own ordinance, but more importantly is the question of whether of not the ordinance is necessary. In the first half of 1976, homicides in Miami were 34, increasing in the first half of 1977 to 36, in the first half of 1976 rates in Miami 56 increasing to 60 in the first half of 1977. In the first half of 1976, rapes in Miami were 56 increasing to 60 in the first half of 1977, in the first half 1976 robberies in the City of Miami were 1163 increasing to 1223 in the first half of 77. The lights did not seem to be a deter to crime. I understand that the proposed renovation of the Dinner Key Auditorium includes lights on the perking lot. I was also told that if W. Mayor, the $15,000,000 born:: .issue for the renovation of the Orange Bowl, had pyc;sc-d this would inclndp-Rrking lot lightina We all know that the development of Watson Island in the near future and no doubt parking lot lighting will be included there at that time. I don't want to dwell on the fact that the City hasn't cximplied with its own ordinance for four years, but the point is, is this ordinance necessary? We the Miarui Hoard of Realtors, feel that we are speaking for the already ever hardened property, businessman and tenant in saying that this ordinance creates in this age energy conservation, an unwarranted expense. In this day and age to keep thousands of high powered lights burning all night on completely empty lots , is in our opinion a crime in itself. Sane of you Commissioners will remember, I'm sure, the bus ride around the City of Miami, at night Mr. Plummer, that you took with my camuitte a few years ago,— by the way at that time Mr. Plummer, offered me a free funeral, I don't know if that was only if I died soon or if you're extending that period of - time Mr. Plummer. Mr. Plummer: $1.39, a six foot fashion. Mr. Simon: After that ride-- you, if you forgive the pun, saw the light and reduced the so called expert lighting recommendations in half, now that the ordinance has been in effect for four years and we believe its not accomplishing its purpose and definitely is a big expense and a big waste of engergy, we ask that you accept one or two alternatives, first would be t.c resent the entire ordinance ,go back to where we were, sek_x xil y woulc] ibe to appoint a study committee to bring hack a recommendation to you on revise or eliminate the ordinance, The committee if we respectfully suggest should include Kelvin C-aozdon, who is the codes enforcement officer a',.; toe other p rsons either of } OUr - choice or of his as you designate, plus we hope tnree arsons of our board of realtors and we would like to go into this more thoroughly ,no.. that the ordinance has had a chance to either work or not to work and cone up with some recommendations, so we respectfully,ir►3ke that request of you Camassioners. Mayor Fevre: Anybody else want to sl. ik t> this point? Mr . Plummer: 'vie l , Mr. Mayor, you know, 1 like to get Herb and everything and all to the same. herb, I vividly recalled that its time we put this ordinance in unfortunately, it was a bicrisis situation, we had a real bad problem in the downtown area. It is my opinion that I feel that yes in fact lights are a deter to a bad sit->ation, but I do feel that there are many pit falls in the ordinance as constructed and I do re(7a 11 - that in fact, we said that we would relook at this thing in a year and I don't see anything wrors with that. Now, I even have enough Nov 1 01977 confidence to say fine, three neerbers of the boars: of realtors be involved really I would like anyone involved that . ld want to be involved, ok and Mr. Mayor, I would offer--- unless Rose, you want to. Mrs. Gordon: No, I have no pride of authorohip,--- remerrbber this morning. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would offer you at this time in the form of a motion that we ask the building department to sit down with the committee of Kevin Gordon, nemrbers of the board of reality and other interested parties,-- which will leave your open--- for a review of the parking lot ordinance, which was stipulated at the one year mark be done. SPEAKER UNKITh N: And bring back a recommendation. Mr. Plummer: Well, sure thats always the case. Mrs. Gordon: Did you include the realty board as a participant? Mr. Plummer: Fine Rose. Mrs. Gordon: Gk, you included it? Mt. Plummer: Yes, sure, I left it wide open. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, Herbert Lee, that sounds like what... Mr. Simon: Its perfect. Mrs. Gordon: Perfect, second the motion. Mr. Simon: Better than I expected after this morning. Mayor Ferre: There is a second and a motion, alright, further discussion? Under discussion let nee say that I'm going to vote with the notion Herb, but you're going to have to have an awful lot of very strong good arguments to get my vote to change anything and my opinion is that it ought to be strengthened not weakEd I think what we have is good and we ought to have more of it and we know that lighting is absolutely essential for the future, especially downtown and it isn't only a question of the fact though, its a psychological thing that people when its well lit downtown will feel more comfortable going to it, when that happens then you get mare development, the more development you have, the more the tax base grows and the more that happens, the stronger the community is eoonomicall' and the more real estate you can sell; I think its a self defeating thing to weak..., / to keep watering dawn, weakening sign ordinances, light ordinances and all the things that are the base of this community and I just want to tell you I'm going to go with you so that the committee can go, but I am very, very, very strongly opposed to weaken anything that is of such importance to the safety of the citizens of this community. Mr. Simon: Well, Mr. Mayor, I think really we're on the same wave length, there are certain areas that should be lit to the degree they are now, perhaps even zrore so, but there are sane other areas where its wasted and through that a committee composed of the staff and our group, could cane up with a better definition. Mayor Ferre: Alright, I've got an open mind and I'll be happy to listen to them, I just hope that they will also, Mr. Manager, include not only considering the dawn grading, but including the up grading ,because it might be the other way around too. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I also,-- I didn't say, but let me say because of your comments, that Mr. Grassie, I would definitely expect a member of the police department to sit in on all of those meetings for input. Mayor Ferre: Absolutely. Rev. Gibson: Fire too. Mayor Ferre: Well, fire is not much involved. Alright, further discussion? Call the roll please. 55 NOV 1 01977 ME The following motion was introduced by O ^issioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION ND. 77-886 A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING TFE CITY NINA= TO REQUEST OF THE PROPER AUTHORITIES IN THE CITY OF Mama BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO INCLUDE hTVIN GORDON, THE MIAMI BOARD OF REALTORS AND OTHER INi EPFS`ILe PERSONS TO REVIEW THE PROVISIONS OF ORDINANCE 8115 RELATING TO PARKING LOT LIGHTING AND FURTHER DIRECTING THAT A REPRESENTATIVE OF 'NE MIA.MI POLICE DEPAK1N NI' ATTEND ALL SUCH ME TINGS . Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Pleter, .r, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 39, DISCUSSION ITEM: REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO EXPLORE CORRECTIVE MEASURES TO CLEAN UP DOWNTOWN PRIOR TO CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SEASON, Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I just--- Herb, you might want to hear this. Mayor Ferre: Not only can you do it, but you may. Ntr. Plummer: Well, its not required. Mr. Grassie, you know, I just listen to the comments of the Mayor and I see Chief Klimkc sski, here and Adam, please don't take this thing other than the way that I offered. Mr. Grassie, you knew, unfortunately, the legislature tied this City's and other Cities in the State of Florida's hands and they eliminated the vagrancy laws, they eliminated the public drinking laws, they eliminated all of these laws which in the past right or wrong were used to keep our downtown clean. Now, you know, you can light downtown and you can do everything that you want downtown, but when a woman is concerned of going into 0` the downtown area, I don't care what you do in cosmetics1its wrong. Now, Mr. Grassie, I'm down there all the time as you }avow and I'm going to tell you that if you drive with me and you volunteered that you wanted to and I hope that you do, Mr. Grassie, when you go downtown and you see alcoholics sleeping in door ways, you see sane of the worst kept people in the world, that are panhandling on the streets, the people who are abusive to other people, you know, I don't know what the answer is, but I see policeman downtown standing there frustrated when these things are occurring and they can't do anything about it. Now, to me the police department did a fantastic job in the past, Mr. Grassie, what I'm saying to you is, that until the day canes and I hope its soon, because we're approaching now the christmas season, when we hope that our merchants downtown will do good, that if you don't find the way to correct some of these problems, your downtown is going to continue to deteriorate, I don't care ha, many lights... Mayor Ferre: Alright, anything else? Can we hold that back J. L., because I tell you Iester Freeman is... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have nothing else, except I hope Mr. Grassie can come back to this Ce missioner with sane ideas and sane solutions. 56 NOV 101977 40. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH WORLD TRADE CENTER INC. Mayor Ferre: We're on item 16, Mr. Manager, 1,2 reccmmending it so--- authorizing the Manager to enter into an agreement with the Miami World Trade Center Inc., for developing of a world trade center in the area of the Dallas Park and so on. Mr. Plummer: No, way --- Mt. Mayor?---- excuse me Mr. Grassie, sir I love you dearly but Mrs. Gordon, asked for sc8nething,unlcss she's got it and I haven't, who are your group? Mayor Ferre: In the meantime, do you all have a copy of the letter fran the Chamber amerce and from the international center? Mt. Plummer: I don't have it. Mayor Ferre: Wait, if you want to speak Mr. Paul, the microphone is right over there. Mr. Paul, this is a City of Miami, Commission Meeting and you have to speak into the microphone after I properly identify yourself, so that it is on the record. Mr. Paul: Excuse me Mr. Mayor, we're here again to address the Commission, regarding this proposal and myself Peter Paul. I was addressing the question of Commissioner Plummer, regarding the principles of the group. We met with Camniss. er Gordon, and provided her with detail background information, but for your benefit I could repeat that. The principles of Miami. world 'Trade Center Inc., are Seprius Corporation, which is a subsidiary of t1::ion Immobiliero Internationale, of wni.c you have a brochure in front of you, which is french ch development group responsible for major international development projects. h.it corporation who accepts New York subsidiary as a 50%, share holder of Miami World Trade Center Inc., the other positions held by a local corporation called the Executive International League and private interest. Mr. Plummer: Yes, well thats who I want to know, who is involved in the local organization. Mr. Paul: A combination of myself and executive centers internationally. Vt. Plummer: That won't suffice for me, I want to knew who are those individuals. lam. Simon: Myself. ttr. Plummer: You solely own the company? Mr. Simon: No, as z say 50% of the company is owned by ... Mrs. Gordon: Who is executive center, Mr. Plummer's question is? Who are they? Mr. Simon: Thats a Florida Corporation, which is held by a eambination of domestic interest. Mrs. Gordon: Names. Mr. Sion: Peter Paul, Maurice and Luis Pinto. W. Plummer: Ok, I'm not going to lain you down, but I expect those in writing before the Manager signs for the $10,000. W. Simon: Ok. W. Plummer: I just want to know who the local people are. Mt. Simon: The lnra1 people are basically myself, as far as a person per se, a &mastic corporation... W. Plummer: In the Florida Corporation, who are the officers? Ok. Mr. Simon: Ok, thats our representative brochure,--- ro, thats for you, we gave 5 NOV 101977 you one before... Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Paul, you see 1 know you don't intend to sound like a mystery story, but when you came across you come across the' way,--- sorry. Mr. Simon: Must be my dark blue clothes. Mrs. Gordon: No, its that you don't tell the whole thing, you tell ; :me of it and not all of it and therefore, you leave thoughts running around an_: what else. Mr. Simon: I apologize Mats. Commission, if thats the impression th:): i gave. Mrs. Gordon: I'm not criticizing you I'm just trying to be regards. When you give the nary s of people in ,-ni t:en form I would appreciate if you would include baekyleund material into it, ox . Who they are, What they are and what they do. Mr. Simon: Yes mom. Mt. Plutat r: Are you ready for a motion? Mrs. Gordon: No. W. Simon: I believe he have some discussion. Mayor Ferre: I don't think so unless somebody wantA-i. helpful tc you in that as Nr r i ; iier , requested on those -eeple included Mts. Gordon: Yes, in the contract, there is a cause which amount to an option---, where is your representative Mr. Grassie, that would speak to this contract? Who 've do you---- you want to speak to the contract, Mr. C ampt on you want to speak to the contract? Mr. Grassie: Well, if you wish Jim Connally has done sate of the work on it... Mrs. Gordon: Ok. .Mr. Grassie: Is there sane specific question that you... Mrs. Gordon: In deed, on page two there is a clause which reads e -- whereas and its under the whereas's and Mr. Paul and I had a ' on where or not whereas' s had any effect on the contract and I nee there, its in there for a purpose, otherwise get it. out. It read:: Trade Center Inc., is willing to incur the tin end expense requi the analysis based on a mutual understanding and agreement that in the world trade center development if the City agrees to go le implementing it in the project, now you know,--- Paul says it (axe::.' if its only in the whereas's, since it doesn't lets take it out. Mr. Simon: That can be eliminated. Mrs. Gordon: Delete that clause then quarters of a page down--- 2/3 of the asking the City to contribute, be not Obtained. in the whereas's, its on way down. That the $10,01 disbursed until after the : 111 read it, e ;cession f its in :.i World • itplish earticipate th anything >hout three you are per' has been Mr. Grassie: Thats the reoerrmendation of the Q-amber of Ccctrnercc: ;.: <ixtmissioner and yes, that is in section three. Mrs. Gordon: I have been re-zdin., it from my copy of my notes an. „Lad we concur with the Chamber. I have another real serious question that needy ,-r.eeering. The hotel developer and you know, the major developer that we have haL .: _t uirement for parking, I want to know haw many spaces must be committed and they have to be ocmmitted otherwise it would jeapodize the financing of that development. I want somebody to tell me haw many space's roust be kept exclusively for the use of that development. I. Grassie: Are you looking for a response a this time Crnmissioner? Mrs. Gordon: I'm looking for a response before I go any further on the voting of this item. Mt. Grassie: I think that we have to put your question in this context, the 58 NOV 101977 old Trade Center, if it is built on the site that we're talking about, site B immediately adjacent to the conference center, would be built only through a design process which would take into consideration the needs of the conference center first and then the world trade center,--- you know, the basic project that we started with is the conference center, we're going to build parking adjacent to it to serve the conference center, now that ,e to be the first design consideration, -- what I'm saying to you is that we're not going to end up with a parking shortage because of the world trade center, that would have to be added on to what ever is required for the conference center. Mrs. Gordon: I know that I would expect you to tell me that exactly the way you said it, but the point is that I understand the allocation of parking spaces in the structure that the world trade center wishes to build above, was about a 1000, thats what I was told. Mr. Grassie: Well, it redly depends on what the economics of their study turn out to be, it depends on how much space can be economically built, which conditions how much parking. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, but as I understand it--- that the conference center has a time factor involved and is where in the being of January. Mr. Grassie: January 4th. Mrs. Gordon: We must know what they need and that has to be committed to them, if they need a 1000 spaces where is the world trade center going to put their parking? Mr. Grassie: The parking will be spanned, now because of the schedule that you've talked about it will--- the conference center problem will be solved before we get into the question of parking requirements of the world trade center and we'll knew what that need is and that will have to be designed before we get the numbers for the world trade center, its not going to be the other way around, is what I'm trying to indicate. Mrs. Gordon: Alright, are you absolutely sure that nothing we're doing is going to delay the implementation of the construction of the conference center, in other words... Mr. Grassie: I have no reason to believe that there should be any delay of our-- you know, we cannot afford any delay of the conference center, we simply cannot jeopodize that project and there is nothing that we would do with this particular project which would interfere with that. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, then I must ask Mr. Paul, a question. Mr. Paul, you know that you're asking us for a relatively small amount of money as compared to what you said was required for the study. But you are getting absolutely no guarantees fran this City, that you will be the developer on that site, do you understand that, is that clear to you? Mr. Simon: We understand that we're not getting any guarantees that we'll be the developer on that site. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, then you are willing to proceed with your study and make available to the City a copy of it if the City participate to the tune of $10,000 and you have no guarantees and then we will able to go to public bid proceed to get a --- if we decide to go with the world trade center, we will be able to go to a public bid process, is that correct? Mayor Ferre: Thats not what this document says, no. Mr. Plummer: Because as I understand it he does control the world trade franchises, he is the recipient, but if he doesn't build here he's sure going to build somewhere else and if he abandoned you still got to go through the New York office to get another one here. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, I read the letter and his designation, he is an associate member and in his designation for associate member, it is also predicated upon the satisfactory negotiations for this site. Mayor Ferre: Thats cxirrect. 59 NOV 101977 Mlrs, Gordon: It says so in that letter. Mfr. Simon: No, I believe-- if you have a (X7, of the letter, the letter provides that so as the membership is kept in good staeS ng, then an exclusive designation will reside in this particular corporation. in other to keep the membership in good standing, thats not predicated upon progress of ds .elopment in this particular study, there is no connection between the designation and the site. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but Mr. Plummer, has an impression that nobody else could get it, if you're not negotiating with the City on this site and the City negotiates with someone for a world trade center on this site, its rather dubious to me that you will retain the title and that the new entity won't. Mr. Simon: Well, in the event that that happened--- assuming another hypothetical situation where in, if for sane reason it became rrore feasible to develop this project on a private site, then its quite possible that there might be sane kind of a conflict at that point, but I don't see that happening. Mrs. Gordon: Well, then lets say this then, the City would get sane tax money out of the project then that might not make us tcxx unl sappy . Mr. Simon: Well, then as we discussed our attitude at this point is that the City would participate in the profits, if there are profits along with the developer. Mrs. Gordon: I just want it clear and I don't think that this is clear now from what you're saying and what Mr. Plummer is saying and the Manager seer to--- I think agree with you all, that you're the developer of the world trade center, if we go ahead with this contract today. SPEAKER UNKNUAIN: Let me try to clarify it if I might, the letter fray, the... Mayor Ferre: Mr. SPEAKER UN}Itifi: I'm provides that we have progress . , your name for the record so that... sorry, right--- the letter from the world trade center association the exclusive designation so long as we make satisfactory Mrs. Gordon: Thats right. SPEAKER UM•273VIN : Now, its quite conceivable according to the way you're phrasing the question as I understand it, that we will cease making satisfactory progress and therefore lose the designation, so we recognize that there is a business risk which we are taking. Mrs. Gordon: Right. SPEAKER UNKNJWN: Its not just the money that we're putting up of our ors, its the fact that we may be stymied somewhere along the line for sane reason and therefore lose that designation. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. , this is no reflection on you Mr. Paul or anyone, but this is a public entity that you're dealing with and the bidding process is a normal procedure and I would like to see the normal procedure proceed in this case as well as other cases. SPEAKER UNK tX N: Well, we have accept32 that that is one of the business risk which we are prepared to undertake or to accept. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, there is se le' d then on the City, other than that you will supply us with a copy of your report when its available at which _time is the City. You have objection Mr. Grassie, you look troubled. Mt. Grassie: No, finish your statement Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: Wishes to solicit bids fion other entities capable of putting together a world trade center and or some other oanbination of uses in that building,-- we're going to be doing that at. least I would hope that the majority of this commission would cce the need to go to a public bid. SPE UNKNOWN: We recognize that as well within your rights and no question. Mts. Gordon: Ok. 60 NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: Well, let me on the record say and I don't mean to offend Mrs. Gordon, but Mrs. Gordon, speaks for herself and herself alone and most of the things that are on the way around here Mrs. Gordon, has not '-een always supported, some of them so I'd like to just say, she is speaking only for herself and she certainly does not speak for the City, in order she speaks for this Commission and we're going to put this to a vote right now because we hi_ v,.ry specific dhc rents which is a legal agreement and it specifies what will and will not be done and what the implication is. This is not a guarantee as we all understand it does not mean that you absolutely have anything, what it does rz,an, is that we're going to deal with you straight, above board and in goc faith and of that I think you will have the assurance in a little while of the majority of this Commission. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, then will you clarify your understanding since words sometimes mean different things to different people, what do you -0-i l,. this contract says, is there an option involved in this? Mayor Ferre: I think what it means is, that these people are going to go spend some money to do a very complicated and difficult job, which in my opinion is going to be the basis for then tro sell somebody the idea of putting up sane money to build something and if they can do that then we're going to negotiate in good faith with them and contract with them to do it and if we can't come to an agreement on it in good faith and we can't cane to something definitive, then we're going to do sanething else. Now, am I wrong in that Mr. Cnunpton, since you're shaking your head. Mr. Crompton: You are partially correct and partially incorrect on that. Mayor Perre: Alright, then tell me where--- thats alright. Mr. Criton: We would be negotiating with then in order to have $10,000 to be apart of the study, but this does not have any strings attached to it that we absolutely waist negotiate with than. Mayor Ferre: NO, of course not. But the point is they're not going to go through the exercise of doing a $100,000 stilly or what ever its going to cost, just for the pleasure of doing it. I would assume that once they dame back with the results, that if it is positive and they can finance this and it is an affirmative thing that this Commission and this City is going to have a moral obligation of negotiating something imssible and if we can't do it, then as far as I'm concerned then we go into something else. Where else Mr. Cmrrpton, would these people go through all this efford, are they doing it out of charity because they like the City of Miami? Mr. Crurrpton: No, they are not doing it out of charity Mr. Mayor, but the agreement doesn't specify that it is incu¢nbent upon the City to negotiate with than. It leaves that open, as Mr. has said, it is one of the business risks that they are undertaking in doiso. Mr. Plummer: Charlie, would a statement such as this be correct, the only thing they are getting here today is $10,000 for a study. Mr. Crartpton: fiats op/Lee . Mt. Plummer: Mats if. Mrs. Gordon: And the verbal cxxrmittment fran the Mayor, that will allowed to have so negotiating ability and that he sure is going to have two more votes, whether I don't like it or not and that: ok with him. Mr. Plummer: Rose, that Mayor has been cut on that limb so much he loves it out there. Mayor Ferre: dank god or otherwise you wouldn't have Watson Island going or the Conference Convention Center or the Police Station and everything else that everybody is always against in this town. Mrs. Gordon: Alright, lets correct the records Mr. Mayor and if you're addessing me, I had no negative votes on those items you enlisted. On the Orange Bowl Bond Issue indeed I did and the people did too, thank you. Mayor Ferre: Anything else you're against Rose, that you want to tell us about 61 Nov 101977 at this time, are we going to get into one -e sessions. Mrs. Gordon: What about this report Mr. that I was handed from the Florida International University School of I3ui.ness and Organizational Sciences and an international canter and it reads; a finial r•_ ort of World Trade Center Committee of South Florida, I didn't have the pleasure of receiving this even 30 minutes before this meeting or I would have an opportunity to read it. I'm not sure whats in it and although your name is on it and so is yours Mr. Ferre, maybe you can tell me what this is all ab.,ut. Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there anybody else want to make any other statements, because if not I'm ready to make a motion. Mrs. Gordon: Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon: what this is Mayor Ferro: Mr. Plum-: The motion is on the table, there hasn't been a vote,. There is not motion yet. Whats a motion. I want to knaa--- would you allow me to find out about? Sure. I want to hear fran Teter. Professor Leiches: My name is Professor Leiches and I'm the chairman of that committee and we spent about 6 months trying to investigate the various alternatives in terms of World Trade Centers and not only in terms of feasibility, but also in terms of the organizational structures and ha,' they can be operated and so the report is an essence, the findings of the report reveal that examining all these variables in light of Miami's or Dade County's need, that the Committee feels very strongly that at this particular time the building of a World Trade Center is highly warranted. Mrs. Gordon: What would the additional report that we're going to be paying for add to this? Professor Leiches: This a very general report, it has nothing to do of a site, I think that a substantial amount of information is still of--- we did a survey of some 2000 possible tenants, I think it was and a lot more needs to be done and if I understand correctly the s1. being proposed deals very specifically with the site and will ac1ire_ . all kinds of design and architectual considerations, so in that ser, addressed ourselves to that. toy only concern is that, it is right to have a World Trade Center and that such a centres should be high] th any kind in terms close survey • that is ::;elf to never :appropriate ie Mrs. Gordon: Right, I don't disagree with that, I concur with fact, eeree totally with the fact, but isn't it true that the international center also, was designated a world trade center associate? Professor Leiches: Yes, but we met with Mr. Paul and his group tore wecl..s ago or I guess this was a week ago and we discuss-- it links with it-- nuw, let me address myself --I think while it is true that the organization, Miami Worl l -ad, Center Inc., has an exclusive agreement with the world trade center at tL <, to develop such a thing, I think it should 1».• clearly understood t j;::t: e.1 this does is tie us in to an association of world trade centers, trat ci h. „.' r. eean that one cannot develop a world trade center without this kixxl of ::n aese iation and Atlanta has set the precedent of this, so I think that even t.'rou:,jh they have an exclusive there, in the final analysis I think what the City weet.e t.:) do or what the Cbunty wants to do, it can do so wit -,out this kind of Mrs. Gordon: I understand that,and thats why I'm objecting to the .- - •- Aure that is being taken today to give a proposition to a developer- under w:.:1 guides without a public bid and so now you can call the question Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Further r3 i sous ion? Alright, Mr. Plummer, are yourceene i t , or are you not moving it, who is going to move this thin;: Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, hosed upon the predicates of 19 hours of conversation, my one sentence being correct, the only thing that they're gettino here today is a grant of $10,000, Iirnve it Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there a second? Alright, it was seconded k,}, Camissioner 62 NOV 101977 Reboso, moved by Plurrrner. As I understand it :ter. Manager, this has yOUr approval ' you did negotiate it and you're recammending this, is that correct? Mr. Grassie: Thats correct. Mayor Ferre: Does this also mean that basical'y what we're agreeing to is whats before us, is that correct. Mr. Grassie: That is correct Mr. Mayor, Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there further discussion or questions? Mrs. Gordon: As amended isn't that true Mr. Plummer, you amended page 2 and excluded the whereas? Mr. Grassie: We have taken out that whereas, at your suggestion Commissioner. Mayor Ferre: Which whereas? Let me make sure. Mr. Grassie: The last whereas before the now therefore, the last whereas on page 2. The developer has-- I understand--- agreed to the removal of that whereas. Mayor Ferre: The developer has agreed to that--- are you in agreement with that and you in agreement with it. Mr. Plummer: And also with the understanding that they furnish to us a copy of thr local participants before you sign it. Mayor Ferre: Anything else? Further discussion, call the roll please. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-887 A RESOLLTTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH MLAMI WORLD TRADE CENTER, INC. FOR THE PREPARATION OF A DEMULED DEVELOPMENT ANALYSIS IN CONNECTION WITH THE DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE E WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS sir FORTH IN THE ATTACHED COPY OF SAID PROPOSED ANTI', WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATE FROM 2ND YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, emitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Comissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYFS: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner issioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES; Commissioner Rose Gordon 63 NOV 101977 411 APPOINT: EMMA CHAVEZ, ELLEN KELLOM & tUCRECIA GRANADA AS MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI aMMISSION TO THE STATUS OF WOVEN Mayor Ferre: Of the 15 win City of Miami? 12 plus the 3 Ms. Campoarrao : No, of the 15 far your appointment, 11 live Mayor Ferre: And 4 do not? Ms. Cho: Right. who are on your board, haw many of then live in the new ones that might get appointed. members, considering the three that were recommending within the City of Miami. Mayor Ferre: Well, I think thats reasonable, ---I would hope that all of then would live within the City, but obviously we can't have them all live within the City, because that might limit it, so I have no objections to that personally in this particular case. ?lr. Plummer: Well, you know what bothers me Mr. Mayor,... Mayor Ferre: What Mothers you Mr. Plummer? Mr. Plummer: You know its just a philosophy that. either we have a City board and I don't see where you rAn say that in this particular case its not, we require the Commissioners to live within the Ci t-y , we require Zoning Anard members to live in the City--- you know, I thin}: either you're going to be consistent or you're not--- now, obviously as I read these resumes, they're great people, but they don't live within the city, with the exception of the last one who possibly has an office in downtown. Ms. C nao: Yes, however, I think that and Commissioner Gordon, may recall -- one of the reasons why residence within the city limits was not included in the City of Miami, was because we felt that we wanted to have the leeway fcr somebody who is actively involved and as you can see from those resumes, those women are actively involved in matters dealing with the City of Miami, that they may not be prevented fran participating in this Commission because of the technirAl ity that they do not reside within City limits. Mayor Ferre: I'll give you an example where that functions, the Dt A, in the Dcwribewn Development Authority, there are people who belong who do not live in the City, but have there principle work in the City and therefore that prem_its than to be rrrenberp' Now, you take M. I. Chavez, M. I. Chavez as you know, is the director of the Wyr x.. Carm.inity Center, is that right. Ids. Carrpoamao: Right, thats correct. Mayor Ferre: And she is a super activist in that area and now she happens to live in the County, so you know--- as long as they have something to do with the City I understand the latitude that we have to have, now if you had--- let me put it on the record--- if you had 11 who lived outside of the City and 4 that lived in, I would feel differently, but you have the majority that live within the City. Er. Plumper: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plunnx?r: Then it would be the Metro. I don't have any other questions. Ok, who's going to move it? Mrs. Gordon: I would be glad to move it and I would congratulate all the women who are serving in this payless job and thankless job, because its a tremendous amount of work thats involved and people don't realize how much time and effort it takes to be a member of a Committee we're very fortunate we have such qualified -,omen who want to serve the public .and I thank you and I move it. Ms . Campx Tao : thank you so much . Mr. Reboso: Send it. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second-- let me understand this-- 64 NOV 101977 being recommended, I've got a question here, yc Ve got three three that are adding to ► so you're going tohave five latins right? Latins and you're Aright, further discussion? Now, call the rt,ll, The following resolution was introduced by Camissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption: ROLTTION NO. 77-888 RFSOIUTiION APPOINTING EMMA CHAVEZ , ELLEN L. KE L.DOM AND ILIA GRANDA TO SERVE AS MINUETS CIF THE MIAMI CONMISSION CN THE STATUS OF % CM N. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Comi-ssioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer Commissioner Ma olo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 65 NOV 101977 42• SECOND READING ORDINANCE: RE-ESTABLISH CITY OF MIAMI AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD AN ORDINANCE FNTITIAM- AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE D. 8519 ADOPTED FEB. 20, 1976 AND ENACTING IN LIEU A NEW ORDINANCE RE-ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF MIAMI' S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD CONSISTING OF FIFTEEN (15) MF BERS ; PROVIDING FOR THE ELf'X'TION OR APPOIIrTIMENT AND FOR THE TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THOSE MEMBERS; PROVIDING FOR THE BOARD 70 SERVE AS A FORUM FOR HEARING AND REVIEWING MIKA= AND GRIEVANCES AGA= ALLD2ED DISCRIMINATION IN THE CITY' S EMPLOYMENT AND HIRING PRACTICE'S; ESTABLISHING THE ELTETIQSS, POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD; PROVIDING FOR THE BOARD'S SELECTION OF ITS CM OFFICERS; PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY' S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OFFICER AS EXEQTTIVE SECRETARY OF THE BOARD; PROVIDING FOR REGULARLY SAD PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THE BOARD IN U OF N E WITH THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAW; PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CERTAIN RULES AND PRO DURES; PROVIDING FOR THE DIS- QUALIFICATION 1 id1u7 VOTING OF MEMi3ERS HAVING QDNFLICI'S OF INTEREST; PROVIDING FOR DISQUALIFICATION FROM 7HE BOARD FOR UNJUS'1'n IABLE ABSENCES; PROVIDING FOR THE DEPART EITI'AL ASSIC t:'T OF PERSONNEL RE{RJMITIJ TO MEND D THE BOARD'S MEETINGS; PROVIDING FOR THE CtOOmNATION OF CITY BOARDS Ate) DE,AR73 'P.: IN TIME AIK]IJLSI'RATIOI OF THE CITY' S AFFIR, ATIVE ACTION PROGRAM; PR?VIDIlU FOR THE ftEVSEN OF AFFIRF\TIVE ACTIONPI.ARS FOR THE CITY OF r TI ; PROVIDING FOR 7HE SUBMISSION OF THE BOARD'S REPORTS ON THE PLANS TO THE COMMISSION; PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REPORT OF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BCZARD BY THE CITY COMMISSION NOT 1FSS THAN THIRTY (30) HAYS FRal THE DATE THE REPORT IS SUBMITTED TO THE CCk'2iISSICV; PROVIDING FOR AN ONGOING REVIEW OF CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PLANS AND PROGRAMS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; CONTAINING A SEVERABILTTY PROVISION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of October 26thwas taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner P. oso, seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following ANES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Foe Gordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: Nane. ABSENT: None. THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8725. me City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City °omission and to the public. 66 NOV 101977 43, DEFERRAL. OF CONSIDERATION OF DELETING SECTION 39-9 OF THE CITY CODE AtiD ENACTING NEW SECTION 39-9 - "CH I L.DR EN' S ;Rr./ .T I VE EXPERIENCE PROGRAM +" Mayor Ferre: Take up item number 8. Mrs. Gordon: Ralph Parkins, would you please stand and let me ask you questions on this. Since you have under your jurisdiction the children program, the pre- school prueLalns the City operates and the park, with the exception of this item which is before us today, wouldn't it be a better idea to carbine the programs and so in that manner you might be able to recieve additional funding, grant cronies, and so forth and so on and also be able to make the most of your resources on employee resources? Mr. Parkins: Well, there is a possibility, I have not had an opportunity to study with it that way. Mrs. Gordon: I would like Mr. Manager, that we table this until Mr. Parkins has had an opportunity to study the feasibility of the canbination of the two pre-school programs. Oh, I'm sorry Mr. Howard, I didn't see you sitting here, I would have asked you the same question. Mt. Parkins: This program is quite different then the day care, this is a purely recreational program and 11 parks was here prior to the day care... Mrs. Gordon: Yes, I know. Yes, I know that, too and I don't see any reason why --- you know, they're both in the parks and they're both day care, they're both ---- whether they are recreational or educational or what ever, they're children and they are pre-schoolers and there is the opportunity to receive additional funding if in fact the programs are combined in same fashion. Now, I'm telling you what do, you and Mr. Parkins ought to get together on that and I would respectfully ask that this be item we don't take any action on until we have had a-- you two have had a consultation and come back and tell us the best way to proceed, ok. Move deferment. Mr. Grassie: Well, certainly we will be happy to do the kind of analysis that Crvrnissioner Gordon suggests and that we will get a report back to you. I wonder though since this ordinance basically deals with fees for the program, whether there is any point in holding it back. Nirs. Gordon: Yes, I want to tell you why, because there is no sense in dealing with a fee on a program that maybe either eliminated or combined with same other program and therefore the structure of the fees may change. I move you that we defer this until the departments have had a chance to discussion the combination of the joining together of the two programs. Mr. Grassie: No, that will be fine Mr. Mayor, we certainly won't press for it. We should inform you however, that the basic purpose of having the fee schedule in front of you, is so that we can expand the program and that will simply prevent us froth expanding Ads. Gordon: Yes, but the program as it is presented serves a limited experience for youngsters and the program in oca nation with the other program can offer a better experience and as I said before and I don't want to say it but three times, I might have to say it tour or five times, there are funding sources ava i 1 able for a more oomprchen_- ive program, so would suggest troy the practical stand point, that we have a combination of these pre-school programs;.it just doesn't make sense for us to be going in different directions. Mr. Grassie: Fine. We have no objections Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion to defer, is there a second? Second by Father Gibson, further discussion on the deferral? Ca11 the roll. 67 NOV 101977 'Xie following motion was introduced by "o nissioner Gordon, who moved its MOTION NO. 1'. -399 A MOTION TO Dm+ ge CONSLDFRATIC,N OF A FIRST READING ORDINANCE DELETING sirrlo - '3 OF THE CITY CODE AND ENACTING A NEW SECTION 39-9, CHANGING THE NAME To "CHn DREN' S CREATIVE EXPERIENCE PROGRAM" AND DIRDLTING THE CITY MANAGER TO REQUEST MR. ROB PARKINS 'Its INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF TUE MERGING OF 'IHE Tim PRE -SCE ioDL PROGRAMS. Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: DUES: None. Commissioner Fuse Cordon Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 44. AU1HORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR EASEMENT - PALLISADES GEOPHYSICAL INSTITUTE, INC. Mayor Ferre: Is there anybody here waiting for 24? You are, alright. Alright, on item 24, authorizing the Manager to enter into an easement, to provide access to Palisades GeopZhysical Institute. Now, the reason why that was held up this morning, was because I questioned the words, I'll be very specific to you. Mr. Grassie: Comfortable and suitable Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: I think comfortable is just fine, in other words comfortable is whats ee ahead, but suitable, who decides what suitable? You. I1r. Knox: May I speak to that Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Yes. Mr. Knox: The word suitable is substituted at the suggestion of the City Attorney's Office, because suitable is more beneficial to the City. When you talk about comfortable, then we're talking about a qualitative judgement, if we're talking about suitable, we're talking about a utilitarian judgement, with respect to responsibilities that the City may have to provide an eascnt in the future. Mayor Ferre: And secondly, even though believe me its has nothing to do with me personally, but its just the question of the integrity of the charter, why should the execution of the easement be changed from the Mayor to the Manager, if you would pleases I mean, I could care less personally, I certainly don't want to go around signing unnecessary docuoa nts, but whats the logic of that? N . Grassie: Mr. Mayor, I don't knew where the suggestions came from frankly. Mayor Ferre: I'd like to know who prepored it and why it was done that way, somebody had to have a reason for it, things just don't happen. Mr. Knox: Well, our charter provides that contracts and instruments are executed by the City Manager on behalf of the City of Miami. This was a suggestion— as again we were taking it from an execution by the Mayor to an execution by the Manager as the charter provides. Mayor Ferre: Ok, anybody else have an} questions on it? Anybody else. Mr. Grassie: One other question which has hcen raised since this was sent out to you Mr. Mayor, it has to do with page three, paragraph three there, it has been suggested that the assignment or transfer of the easement be subjected to City Ornmi.ssion approval. 68 NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: Well, I just want to make sui Joe, that this isn't being done by --- so with all do respect to you and Mr. Knox-- thot somebody forth down on the ladder hasn't done this and you guys haven't -e ily looked at it carefully and we're going to get into trouble when you start to try to develop something else on Virginia Key, that Oh, my _goodness you didn't realize that you sign this way, you did it that way or something or else. Mr. Grassie: Well, we should be clear Mr. Mayor, that the property that we're talking about is County property and that... Mayor Ferre: Its County property,... Mr. Grassie: The only easement that we're giving them is for access to the property that they want to develop, its simply is a way for them to get into their property. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie: Mayor Ferre: You're satified this is ok? Yes, it is... And Mr. Knox, you're satisfied? Mr. Knox: Yes sir. Mr. Grassie: The only thing that we're suggesting that we add is, that the transfer of easement be subject to City approval. 1DTRT F • Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, who seconds item 24? Is there a second? Alright, there is motion and a second, further discussion? Ca11 the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-890 A RESOLZTI'ION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN EASEMENT, A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO, TO PRCRIDE ACCESS TO THE PALISADES GEDPHYSICAL INSTITUTE, INC. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was adopted by the following vote- 1 : Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre HUE: None. LI5,- DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF THE ABOLISH1ENT OF THE CITY OF MIAMI LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, and on file passed and Mayor Ferre: Take up item 26, authorizing and directing the City Attorney to review the agreement with Dade County, authorize preparation of an ordinance abolishing the City of Miami's Library Advisory Board. We left that for a further discussion and I think there was some discussion as to whether or not there was any need to continue a City of Miami Library Board, as long as the County Board recogizes our right to appoint, as I recalled three people on the County Library Board, I certainly have no objection personally, but on the other hand you may .Lnitstber that there was a move a foot I think it was recommended by one of the Oomnissioners,that that particular cul ar provision be wiped off. I assumed thats been settled down now 69 NOV 10977 Nt. Orassie: A concomitant action that we're looking for with this particular action on your part, is a... W. Plummer: Mr. Grassie: specifically Pelf. Gibson: Mr. Grassie: Pev. Gibson: Mr. Grassie: is scheduled Rev. Gibson: deferred. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: orrect? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry I needed an interpreter for ooncurnitant. Is an action on the part of the r my Commission, Mr. Mayor, which recognizes the right of the City Commission to make those three appointment Has the action been made? Let me find out. Has it been legalized? The County has gassed their ordinance on first reading, second rea:._.a for NoveMber 15. Well, we'll wait until the second ordinance. I move that this be There is a motion by... Father, I hope in your deferral--- we have three members presently, 'Mats correct. Mr. Plummer: I would like to hear fran one or all of those three members of what they think about this and whether or not the City will be protected. Mr. Grassie: Mrs.... Rev. Gibson: Mr. Plummer: Rev. Gibson: Alright, well we can reschedule it for December 8th and I'll have And invite than here. Fine. Thats right. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, there is a motion by Gibson, seconded by Plummer, on item 26, deferral etc., as amended. Call the roll. A MOTION TO DEFER THIS MATTER TO NEXT MEETING WAS PASSED AND ADOPT® BY A UNANI2tX VOTE OF THE c rMISSION. 46, DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF PLAT ENTITLED - BEGQIIA VILLAS, Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Now, we're on item 30, thats Begonia. Begonia Plat. Thats right, Rose... Did anybody get Rose a life size picture of Begonia?. What are you going to do to me J. L . ? Get you a life size photograph of Begonia. Thats it Begonia, refer to you Rose. Mrs. Gordon: Ok, let me explain why I asked--- this is an inappropriate item to be placed on the agenda today, the reason its inappropriate is that because this week, if 1 understand it correct-- is Mr. Fosmoen here? Mr. Davis: 1 think I can answer your question Mrs. Gordon. 70 NOV 101977 Mrs. Gordon: Ok, this week-- correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Davis, you are having a public hearing on the possible change oz •oning of this area fran R-1 to R-IB. Mr. Davis: Not of this direct area, it excludes the lots which face on 22 avenue, which this is a , so these particular lots are not under consideration in the area hearing, which cones before the planning advisory board of their meeting next wednesday. Mrs. Gordon: 22 avenue is excluded? W. Davis: Yes, mom. The area hearing excludes those lots facing 22 avenue. Mrs. Gordon: Well, I'm a bit surprise by that, I don't know Mr. Davis, why was it excluded, I don't recall. Mr. Davis: Well, there are planning reasons for this, which obviously I can't go into, but they seem to have a good basis for their argument. Mrs. Gordon: Well, what basis? Mr. Davis: I can't paraphrase them on this... Mrs. Gordon: Well, maybe this should be deferred then until after we get more information on it. I'll defer this. Mr. Plummer: She wants to defer it. Mr. Davis: Mr. Fosmoen, is here and perhaps he can answer your question directly Mrs. Gordon. The question was Mr. Fosmoen, was why were the lots on 22 avenue excluded from the zoning study which recommends a change of zoning in the rest of that area from R-1 to R-1B? Mr. Fosmoen: Because of the traffic condition on 22 avenue. This is going to the planning advisory board for a hearing next week Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: I would think it much better--- more prudent on our part not to pass this item in either rase today, until after the planning has had their opportunity to discuss this. If its an adjacent they're discussing, they may enlarge upon it and we would have acted in haste and I would therefore move deferment. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion to defer, second by Gibson. Alright, further discussion? Call the roll. A MOTION TO Dt:r'r:K THIS NATTER TO Nam!' MEETING WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY A UTNflWS VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. 47. ACCEPT BID: TWO METAL STORAGE BUILDINGS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT Mayor Ferre: Alright, now we're on item number 33, two metal storage buildings and there was some question about that and all that. Ok, any questions? 24r . Plummer: Yes, 1 want to know why. Mr. Grassie: I believe Commissioner Plummer, Mr. Mayor, had asked -for an explanation of the need for these two buildings. - Mr. Plummer: You got them under an expressway and behind landscape. Capt. Wood: This Captain Woods, City of Miami Police Department. These metal sheds are required, the Police departJ:nt feels they are required; number one. since we've been an there about tao rronths we've had three breaks into the pound, the auto pound, this is inside the auto pound under the expressway between 6 and 7th .arid 7th and B th and NW 3rd avenue. Mr. Plummer: Did you complain to the police department? 171 NOV 101977 Gaut. Wool: Sir? Yes. In the small shed we want to house the auto parts and accessories and we need a space in there for en employee and a desk, when the Orange bowl and other special events towing, we have w assign somebody to sit at the pound to release the vehicles. At the present time)we're sitting out in the open with a table there and with the money and She cash register and all that we need a place of confinement for this. The large shed will house the bicycles and mopeds which we will take in. The old auto pound was manned 24 hours a day and consisted of one large lot, however the nee , 'und is two separately fenced lots and its not easily secured by a property specialist. Potential thieves of the mopeds and bicycles which we've have problems with, can now window shop for the items thats most attracted to than, in the couple of months that we've been there we've lost approximately 7 rrropeds and 11 bicycles. The last break occurred when the man we have on the night shift there at night and now we're manning it fruit 11 at night to 7 in the morning--- was aver at the station in the restroan and they broke in and got a mopeds while he was over there. So, this --- we're going to have to do something to hide the bicycles and mopeds from view or we're going to be constantly beseiged with breaks. Mr. Plummer: I remember, but you know, if I didn't think that we had this high sophistication security in the so call compound and you know as well as I did, they didn't keep the bikes in the old motor pounds, they kept them right there in the station. Capt. Wood: This security doesn't extend to these lots. Mr. Plummer: What I'm saying is, fence off an area inside of the police station area there. Hey, you know, if you got the money to spent, its beautiful, ok. But I don't think--- you know, this man keeps crying poor mouth---- now, unless he's telling me something thats not right--- I just don't understand. Capt. Wood: The auto pound was relocated, not at their request. Mr. Plummer: Connie, I know that--- yes it was--- no, no, I'm sorry you're wrong. Capt. Wood: Nb it wasn't, we didn't want it where it is. Its very difficult for us to give security to the auto pound where it is. Chief Klornkoaski: Let me speak up, I'm Al Klamkowski, acting chief of police today. It was realized after the construction of the pound that there was a design error, that in fact the... Mrs. Gordon: Chief move the mike a little this way, so we can hear you better -- toward you. Chief Klcmkowski: Tbwards me? Ok. The plantings around the fence obscure the inside of the auto pound to the extend that visibility is impossible, the property unit originally had planned not to assign any penple to the--- to that particular function. It was hoped that men could be assigned from the police station--- it has now proven to be completely impractical. We need those sheds, the problem maybe under beneath the expressway, but it is completely open and we are... Mr. Plummer: This dam City operates daily on the MUrphy Act, right? Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong, will go wrong, will go--- What happen to the $380,000 TV system you had for the pound? SPEAKER UN NCWN: $30,000. Vt. Plummer: Well, what happen to the $30,000 TV system? SPEAKER UtENOWN : We didn't buy it because it was 30,000 bucks . _ Mr. Plummer: We didn't buy if because it was 30,000. Boy we care up with sate of the dampest--- you know... Mayor Ferre: Do you want to stay here and argue until 7? Mr. Plummer: If I can save $11,000 for this City when I think its not being spent correctly, yes I want to stay here until midnight and argue about it. Mayor Ferre: let just make a motion and pass it. How strong do you feel about this chief? Chief K1cmkc ski: Very strongly, we have made an error. i2 NOV 101977 Mayor Ferre: What? Chief Klankowski: An error was made. Now, we're trying to correct the error. Mayor Ferre: Alright, do you think we need the two metal storage buildings to put stolen bicycles and everything else in it, is that it? Chief Klomkowski: If we don't, you're going to be hit with at least $50,000 worth of suits each year in stolen property. Mayor Ferre: Who wants to make the motion? Plummer, you want to have the pleasure of making the motion? Mr. Plummer: Fine I'll make the motion Mr. Mayor, I've put it in the record to I'm/Objections, I think there is adequate space within the compound, but obviously the Chief feels differently and he's the boss. I make the motion. Mayor Ferre: Well, lets--- can we talk a little more?--- you know, those two metal buildings are probably going to be a horrible thing, right smack in the middle of those-- in that area--- there is no way that-- you don't have any space inside of the building? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, the reason that we need the metal buildings, is that we have so much landscaping around the auto pound. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Plummer moves, is there a second? Reboso seconds, further discussion? Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Cannissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION 'J3. 77-891 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING Ti-0✓ BID OF BISCAYNE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR FURNISHING TWO METAL STORAGE BUILDINGS FOR THE DEPARMaTT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL COST OF $11,000.00; FUNDS ENCUMBERED FROM THE 1976-1977 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET; AUTIiORI Z ING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE rHE PURCHASE ORDER FOR MIS EQUIPMENT. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Nam: None. Rev. Gibson: Chief, tell me how do they get into that strong box? Chief Klea:kowski: It is a wire mash fence, its extremely simple to break into. Any kid can break into-- excuse me, I thought you were talking abaft the bicycle -box. The compound itself? Bev. Gibson: Yes. Chief Klamkawski: I'm not aware that we had any breaks inside of thie INAUDTRLF. Chief Klankowski: The metal sheds are at the bicycle pound, which is two blocks down the street. Bev. Gibson: Didn't you have to send same security there? Chief Klankowski: There have been any number of changes, as compared to our original proposal for the auto pound. In our original piupisal we provided for a concrete block building, that was deleted, by who is immaterial, it was deleted, since we have moved in to this facility, we have found it to be impractical. _Besides the bicycles, which are a portion of our problems, we have all sorts of... 73 NOV 101977. 48. PREPARED RESOLUTION: URGE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES COM^1I SS I ON TO TAKE NECESSARY ACTION TO EXPEDITE CONSENT ELECTION OF CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, Mayor Ferre: Whets next on the agenda? Plummer you had something you want to talk about. Mt. Grassie: There is a resolution from this morning Mr. Mayor, which is in front of you. t'r. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I offered it this morning, I'll offer it now in the form of writing, a resolution urging the public employees commission through its Chairman to forthwith, take all necessary action to expedite the consent election for the civilian employees of the City of Miami, Florida. I offer that in the form of a motion. Mayor Ferre: Alright, second by Reboso, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 77-892 A RESOLUTION URGING THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES COMMISSION, THROUGH ITS CHAIRMAN, TO FORTHWITH TAKE ALL NEL7SSARY ACTION TO EXPEDITE THE CONSENT ELD7TION FOR THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -- AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Manol° Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Fuse Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 49. Misc, DISCUSSION ITEMS: A) SALE OF BEER IN Tl-E ORAN'IGE BOWL STADIIFu B) WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK; AND c) DISCUSSION OF OFFICE SPACE FOR TIC VICE-WYOR, Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to bring up at this time, we had an election taco days ago. I would like to make a motion at this time, that we authorize the Manager to proceed with the sale of beer in the Orange Bowl. Mayor Ferre: He's going to wait until he gets somebody to second it. Mr. Plummer: I think the people of -the City seconded it, they made the motion, I'm just bringing it forth... Mrs. Gordon: 38% of the people who went to the polls supported it, 38% of the people who went to the polls did not support it, the other said the heck with the whole thing and didn't do anything. Mr. Plummer: We're still a country that operates by the majority rule. Father I ma0P a motion, Mr. Reboso, I make a motion, that we authorize,.. Mr. Plummer: I want to bring up to the-- I want to bring up Mr. Mayor, I had asked before the break, about the festival in the park this weekend and I want assurances from the administration and the department of police and fire, that (5 NOV 101977 we are adequately providing what is needed to adequately safeguard the life and limb property of this City. Mr. Plummer: I'm rot the Vice -Mayor, speak to the... Mrs. Gordon: Thats ok, I was Vice -Mayor and not last year either. Father Gthsen and all you decided that was the way it was going to be, thats the way its going to stay. I don't have anything to do, it was decided last year and thats it. Mayor Ferre: That the office of the Vice -Mayor, Rose. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, it was, until... Mr. Plummer: Rose, only was the Vice -Mayor for life. _ Mrs. Gordon: I'm sorry, you have two years to put up with me and thats all. Mr. Plummer: I think we ought to offer it to a public referendum. about a straw vote. Mrs. Gordon: I want a straw vote too. I'm not moving,--- I don't is, we made it up last year and I'm not move, you want to move me, pick me up and carry me and thats the only way you're going to get not unfair... Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, would you like for the parks director... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, which is the office of the Vice -Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Are you finished? Was that done by a motion? Right. Mr. Reboso: Rose, say that is a resolution, that said... Mrs. Gordon: That was an agreement of this body. Mr. Plummer: No. Mr. Reboso: Where is the agreement? Mr. Plummer: Thats the office of the Vice -Mayor. Mr. two and Hey, Rose how care where it you have to me. That is Reboso: Where is the agreement, I want to see, because we said the same thing years ago, and Rose insisted that she wanted to go up stairs and she insisted J. L., had to come down. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but you see the reason for that--- well, let me-- may I say something? Let me tell you the way I see this... Mr. Plummer: I want to tell you, in one year I'm going to be in the office of the Vice -Mayor, and if Rose wants to say it over her dead body, I can wait. Mayor Ferre: Look, as I understand the way this thing was, that was Plurmer's office when was... I ISLE Mayor Ferre: Will you let me finish, that Plummer was up there and that was the Vice--- that is the Vice -Mayor's office and then when you became Vice --Mayor, you insisted that Plummer, move out-- you moved him out and bereaved oft and he carve down, right after that Father Gibson, decided that he didn't want to do that and that was your decision, now the Vice -Mayor as of December 1, wants that office what do you want me to do about it,--- tough nothing, you maned Plummer out why Should... INAUDTRTE Mayor Ferre: Look if its the will of the majority of this Commission -to Tmuve me out of that office, I'll move out, you make the motion. Mrs. Gordon: MI boloney, lets nerve on. Mayor Ferre: Look there is a member her of December 1 and he says that he wants e, who is going to be the Vice -Mayor as the office of the Vice -Mayor. Mrs. Gordon: Well, there is no such thing III this office, his office with a door knob on it, with a plat it that says Vice -Mayor--- he's then Vice -Mayor its a plat, I'll even make it for you Manolo... Mr. Reboso: I remembered we backed you all the way when you wanted that office. Mr. Plummer: Thats right. Mayor Ferre: There was a difference, in fairness to Rose there was a difference, you want to move out of that place up there, is that right? Mr. Plummer: No, I didn't want to move out. Mayor Ferre: Well, how did you move out of there then? Mr. Plummer: Because it was the office of the Vice -Mayor. Mayor Ferre: And you wanted to stay up there. Mrs. Gordon: You all changed it last yet-, you said to me--- you said now, look Rose I'rn sorry, Father Gibson doesn't want to go up stairs, so from now on we're no moving around, everybody just stay where they are. I said ok, alright. Mayor Ferre: As I understand it, Plummer didn't want to move and you made him move, Gibson didn't care about that, now... Mrs. Gordon: Thats two years ago, listen is the meeting still in session or is this a argument session? Mr. Reboso: Rase, the thing is over, you can stay. Mts. Gordon: Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, now that the argument is over, let me tell you where you are completely wrong. Mr. Plug. Oh, its over for one year. Mayor Ferre: No, let me tell you where you are completely wrong. A legislative body cannot bind future legislative body on anything and the fact is--- just let me talk, would you for 2 seconds, god do you have to interrupt everything... Mrs. Gordon: I want to go home, we got to come back at 7 O'clock. Mayor Ferre: The simply point is that a legislative body cannot bind a future legislative body and the fact is that the fact that Father Gibson, didn't feel that way about it in my opinion its grossly.unfair of you to act that way arbitrarily, unilaterally when you know that it is absolutely wrong, that office happens to be the office of the Vice -Mayor, if the new Vice -Mayor wants it, then I think he's entitled, just like you force Plummer out. Mrs. Gordon: Now, listen Mr. Mayor, you're a gentleman I'm sure of that. S1ayor Ferre: Don't be so sure. %Mts. Gordon: I'm not so sure. Mr. Plummer: You know, in all fairness Mr. Mayor, I'm not going to get involved, if Mr. Reboso wants to withdraw his claim, fine. Mrs. Gordon: He did and he's a gentleman and I compliment him for it, he's honoring an agreement that was made last year. Mr. Plummer: which can change, now I make a motion a this time, that that office which is to the south of yours, is the office of the Vice Mayor and be so designated -period. I offer that in the form of a motion. UNAUDITATP.: 77 NOV 101977 The following motion was introduced by Commissioner P1t rtr rf who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 77-893 A MOTION OF THE CITY C I TON ESTABLISHING IN THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT THE PHYSICAI. OFFICE SPACE IMMED A'iELY ADJACENT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THE SE ID FLOOR OF CITY BALL BE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED RJR USE BY THE VICE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAM. . Upon being seconded by Mayor Ferre, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Cairnissioner Manolo Reboso Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NCaES • None. 50, PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ASSISTANT CHIEF KLIMKOWSKI AND AL HOWARD - FURTHER DIS- CUSSION OF WEEKEND FESTIVAL AT NEW WORLD CENTER PARK, Mr. Grassie: If you would like to start with the report on the Bicentennial Park fair for this weekend Mr. Mayor, Mr. Al Howard will report on some of the arrangements. Mr. Howard: The sponsor Mr. Lee Lawrence, representing the Hemophiliac Association has been meeting with the police department and fire department and our department for the past two months concerning the affair at Bicentennial Park, we had our last meeting this morning. I think we've taken every possible precaution, looked into every possible problem and hopefully we can solve or eliminate any of these problems from hazards, we realize there maybe same difficulties, but the Hphiliac Association as agreed to have off duty police on under the recommendation of the police department, medic, paramedics from the fire department on their recommendation along with our staff and we have overage in the park 24 hours a day, starting tomorrow morning at 10 O'clock, through Sunday. Its interspersed with all types of activity, including Spiderman and Ronald MacDonald, same soft rock, western jazz, nothing is going on at the same time hopefully that would attract people in a hard run, I think the program is itself has been planned very well, with the cooperation and agreement of all departments concerned and I don't see anything happening really out of the-- that would interfere with the program itself. Mr. Plummer: W. Howard, my concern is this, originally as I recalled when Mr. Grassie presented this before the Cb mission, he fully explained as always and understood there is an element of risk, but I do recalled that he spoke in the neighborhood of 20,000 people as an attendance figure roughly, I then pick up a raper and start reading about a 100,020 people. Now, where is that being generated frcrn and if you feel that that is in reality somewhat realistic? Mr. Howard: I don't think it is, other people apparently do, we haven't heard a 100,020, I've seen all types of figures, we've talked in the neighborhood of 20,000 to 100,000 for the three days. Dbst of the people basically will be Sunday night, between 6:30 to 8:30 there are two groin there and they're the most popular with the younger people, but prior to that like Friday and Saturday mornings I don't think we're going to have more than 5 or 7,000 people in the park, in the evenings we may reach up, but I do not think that we're going to have a 100,000 people. Mr. Plummer: Hk many policemman are you actually in fact going to have there for this festival? .Mr. Howard: 1'11 let Chief Ktimkowski explain that. Chief Klimkowski: The number of policeman will vary, depending on the day of the week, but on Saturday and Sunday we propose to assign almost 150 personnel to this event. 40 of those will be on duty and the remainder will be on a off duty status. _ 78 NOV 101977 Its rather difficult with this event, because this is the first time, we can predict with a great deal of accuracy how many people will be at a Miami Baseball Stadium for a concert or at the Orange Bawl, but this is carrpletely new, it isn't possible to guarantee you that we will be ready for any evenualities. Mr. Plummer: I understand that you can't guarz.ntee, I mean you don't know how many people are going to show up, but from everything that I have seen, they have been doing a great job of publicity on of this thing. Chief Klimkowski: Yes, we are aware of that. Mr. Plummer: The more adequate the publicity the greater potential for a crowd that you have and as I said earlier, my concern is in the area, that you're not -in a Orange Bowl or Baseball Stadium when you reach a certain crowd that you can cut it off, you're in a totally open area and there is no way that you can cut it off. Chief Klimkowski: You're absolutely right, well this is an event that is of serious concern to us, and to Mr. Howard, we have spent the 'oast five or six weeks in rather extensive planning, we are limited I must tell you, on sunday in terms of personnel and in fact the entire weekend there are a number of events taking place this weekend, which will put a strain on our resources, sunday for example; we have the Coconut Grove bicycle race, that requires resources, we have a large launch pad this time at the baseball stadium, which involve over a 125 police officers, we also have the final day of the Dinner Key hone show and you add to that another 150 police officers to the bicentennial park and our resources will be very severely strained. Mr. Plummer: Now, Adam thats exactly where I wanted to came to. Mr. Grassie, I've heard him distribe 150 in the park, 125 for the baseball stadium, is 275 I don't know how many are involved in the hoe show and the bicycle races--- 50? Chief Klimkowski: No, I don't think its quite that. Mr. Plummer: So, we're talking about 300 officers. Now, what even more concerns me is on duty officers, kno..'ning that sunday is a very very bad day for good coverage in the City. In the Orange Bowl we went to --- please excuse wackenhut--- now, should we try to supplement sunday, since we're into this thing, we're cosponsor of this thing, should we try to get a 100 of the wackenhut to provide or 50 or park rangers or what. Mr. Grassie: Thats the kind of judgement that really our police professional should be making Commissioner. Mr. Plumper: But Mr. Grassie, if you've go then under a financial thumb that they just can't move under, they would be scared to recommend such. Mr. Grassie: Well, alright, lets assume that they are not scared to recommend, lets ask -the question right now Commissioner. Mr. Plumper: Fine. Mr. Grassie: You know, keep in mind that all of us want twice as -many resources as anybody can afford we'd all love to have a 1000 people therein uniform, -- now -you know, what you're asking them to do is to do a difficult thing because they have given you a responsible recommendation and also, they take a risk if they recommend something too, low when we look back. So, you know, its a difficult thing that you're asking them to do, but... Chief Klimkowski: Mr. Howard did not mention that all his park rangers will be on duty this weekend. Mr. Plummer: 'Mats 40? _ Mr_ _Howard: 20. Chief Kli mkowski : And that the sponsor himself, the volunteer group will provide up to a 150 marthals in the park. Mr. Plummer: i'hat I'm saying in reality, are you saying to this Commission that you feel with ilierything that you have to make a professional guesstimate confortable 79 are you saying possibly to this Commissioner,--- Commissioner I feel that we should do sane more, its going to cost some money and let this Commission. Chief Klimkowski: No, we don't intern to pass the buck to the City Commission or anyone else. We have used what we consider to be our best judgement, we've come up with the plans that we think are the absolutely minimum number of personnel, if we have trouble,--- yes we'll have difficulty. but we do not purport or pretend to need any more men at this time, we just simply do not know. Mr. Plummer: Ok. Let me ask this just from a logistic stand point of view, why couldn't you take the 20 Park rangers, since the main thing in Coconut Grove is blocking up streets and put then down and releave those policeman to put them in the park. Mt. °Grassie: Is that a reasonable suggestion Adam? - Chief Klimkowski: No sir, the park rangers do not have legal authority to move traffic, thats one of the big problems. Mr. Plummer: Mat about PSA's? Chief Klimkowski: We will be using PSA's too. Mr. Plummer: Ok, I'm just asking. SPEAKER UNKNOWN: Agreed we'd be happy, we'd feel nnich more comfortable with twice the number of personnel, but we can't justify requesting that many at this time. 51. PERSONAL APPF_ARAIICE: LT. DON MARCH, FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE RE CONPENSATIO►J PAID TO OFF -DUTY POLICE OFFICERS, Mr. March: Mr. Mayor, I've got a question concerning this, there are numberous police officers who are going to be working on an off duty basis and we had an instance resently at a City facility in which officers working on an off duty basis were not paid initially due to a unfortunately situation with the piututer. I'm curious as to what arrangements have been made with the promoter in this case to insure payment of the off duty personnel, is there any formal agreement or what? Mr. Howard: Yes, a bill was submitted this morning an estimate by Chief Klankowski- as to the actual cost of the event and he has agreed that he will make payment what ever cost are necessary that leveed upon him by the police department. Mr. March: Ok, I mean he's offsetting the aaaitional off duty personnel that need to police the thing, he's offsetting the cost and the City is not? Chief Klimkowski: For off duty and in sae cases on duty. Just off duty. Mr. March: Thank you. Rev. Gibson: Are you telling me that same policeman worked and didn't get paid? Mr. March: Well, there is a— and Chief Kl.irr&Mski, will probably provide the exact det-ai ] s— but we had a --- I believe it was a rock concert in Miami Shoal zn. Mr. Plummer: James Brown. Mr. March: -James Brawn, in which a bad check was involved or what ever. Mr. Plummer: $8,000 worth to the police department. Mr. March: Right and the police officers were approached and there was an agreanent to wait and give the promoter a chance to make restitution and pay than at a later date, I don't know what the progress has been on that. Rev. Gibson: I would hope that wouldn't happen again. Mayor Ferre: .Alright, is there anything else to come up before this Cannission? . 8a NOV 101977 52. BRIEF DISCUSSION: SALE OF BEER IN THE u,'ANGE BOWL TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE DECEMBER 8, 1977 F, : NG , Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I just want so that its not miss understood or left at any situation. Mr. Grassie, you will schedule for December 8th, as a regular agenda item, the beer question. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUS1t E�� TOCOMEBEFORETHE CITY COMMISSION THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 44:55jj CLOCK ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE CITY CLERK TATTY HIRAI ASSISTANT CITY CLERK MAURIE A. FERRE MAYOR 81 NOV 101977 Cr"Y OF � 7 • 1 ITEM NO DOCUMENT DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION MEETING DATE. November 10. 1977 COMMISSION ACTION RETRIEVAL CODE NO. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 lL COMMISSION AGENDA ANI) CI TY CLERK REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREE- MENT WITH NATIONWIDE TRAFFIC SERVICE BUREAU, INCORPO- R'1TED FOR CUSTOM HOUSE BROKERAGE AND FREIGHT FORWARD- ING SERVICES FOR THE TRADE FAIR OF THE. AMERICAS. DESIGNATING COMMISSIONER MANOLO REBOSO AS VICE -MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIAMI ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY C.A. DAVIS, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $143,439.00 FOR URBAN MINI - PARK -46 WEST FLAGLER STREET-1976 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH POST, BUCKLEY, SCHUH AND JERNIGAN, INC. TO PER- FORM SURVEYS AND SOILS INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE WATSON ISLAND EVELOPMENT PROJECT. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONSENT ORDER NO. 93 OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. APPOINTING PATRICIA M. KOLSKI, THE CURRENT ALTER- NATE MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD TO FILL TIIE TERM OF GROVER P. WALKER CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF H. GORDON WYLLIE TO THE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF DIANNE SMITH TO THE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI CREATING AND ESTABLISHING THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMIT- TEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF REVIEWING MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE YOUTH OF TH15 CITY. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE TN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION, A RESIDENCE AND LOT COMPRI SEI) OF 9500 SQ. FT. LOCATED AT 91 NORTHEAST 62ND STREET FOR THE ($56,000.00) DOLLARS. ACCEPTING A DEED OF DEDICATION CONVEYING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI CERTAIN STIPS OF RESERVED ZONED WIDTH RIGHT-OF-WAY ABUTTING N.E. 80'l'H TERRACE NEAR N.E. 2ND AVENUE, IOR HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPEND $1,500 TO IMPLEMENT THE PILOT PROJECT OF THE COMMUNITY SER- VICE ORGANIZ.A'I'ION KNOWN A "CREATIVE CURRENTS". AUTHORI ZINC THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH FOOD SERVICES, INC. FOR THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSION RIGHTS AND FACILITIES AT THE NEW MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT R-77-866 R-77-869 R-77-871 R-77-872 R-77-873 R-77-874 R-77-875 R-77-876 R-77-877 R-77-878 R-77-879 R-77-880 R-77-881 0053 77-866 77-869 77-871 77-872 77-873 77-874 77-875 77-876 77-877 77-878 77-879 77-880 77-881 DOCUMENTIN DE TEEM NO. DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED PLAZA VENETIA PHASE I SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION TN THE CITY OF MIAMT. ACCEPTING TIIE PLAT ENTITLED DEL MAZO SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI. ACCEPTING THE BII) OF D.M.P. CORPORATTON IN THE AMOUNT OF $155,178 for CENTRAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-41 ACCEPTING THE BID OF MONROE CALCULATOR COMPANY FOR FURHTSHTNG TEN ELECTRONIC CALCULATORS FOR THE DEPART- MENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT A TOTAL COST OF $5,603.50 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI WORLD TRADE CENTER, INC. APPOINTING I?IMA CHAVEZ, ELLEN L. KELLOM AND LUCRECIA GRANDA TO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN EASEMENT, TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PALISADES GEOPHYSICAL INSTITUTE, INC. ACCEPTING THE BID OF BISCAYNE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR FURNISHING TWO METAL STORAGE BUILDINGS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL COST OF $11.,000.00 URGING THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES COMI`MISSION, THROUGH ITS CHAIRMAN, TO FORTIIWTTH TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO EXPEDITE THE CONSENT ELECTION FOR THE CIVILIAN EM- PLOYEES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI ACTION R-77-882 R-77-883 R-77-884 R-77-885 R-77-886 R-77-888 R-77-890 R-77-891 R-77-892 RETRIEVAL 77-882 77-883 77-884 77-885 77-886 77-888 77-890 7 7- 891 77892