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COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 15, 1977 (PLANNING & ZONING REGULAR FETING)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
RALPH G. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING MEETING
SEPTEMBER 15, 1977
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SUBJECT
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: NO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED
UNTIL FINAL PLAT IS APPROVED AND RECORDED.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCLUDE "ESCORT SERVICES"
WITHIN DEFINITION OF ADULT ENTERTAINMENT USES.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ALLOW "PROFESSIONAL OFFICE"
WITHIN R-5 DISTRICTS AS CONDITIONAL USE.
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF RESCINDING
OF RESOLUTION 39308 (NIGHTCLUB OPERATION AT SHERATON
FOUR AMBASSADORS).
GRANT 1-YEAR EXTENSION CONDITIONAL USE - EXCESS PARk-
KING LOT 3685-87, S.W. 23 ST. AND 3686-88 S.W. 22ND
TERRACE, ETC. ("REX ART SUPPLIES").
GRANT 1-YEAR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE - ADDITION TC 1-
STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, ETC., LOCATED AT 2261-87
S.W. 37TH AVENUE.
GRANT 1-YEAR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE - PERMIT 2 STORY
ADDITION TO EXISTING BUILDING LOCATED AT 3925 No.
MIAMI AVENUE, WAIVING 11 OF 11 REQUIRED PARKING
SPACES.
BRIEF DISCUSSION: PLATTING AND RE -PLATTING PROCE-
DURES.
ACCEPT PLAT: "T. R. SUBIDVISION."
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF DRIVERS LICENSE FACILITY
MATTER FOR FI
SHOPPINGACTION ON OCTOBER 20, 1977.
CENTER LOCATION).
QRDINANCE 09
K SOLUTION NO
ORD.8694
ORD.8695
ORD.8696
DISCUSSION
RES.77-734
RES.77-735
RES.77-736
DISCUSSION
RES.77-737
RES.77-738
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OE THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
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ON THE 1STH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 1977, THE CITY COMMISSION OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA MET AT ITS REGULAR MEETING PLACE IN THE CITY
'TALL, 3500 FAN AMERICAN DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA IN REGULAR SESSION,
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 2:40 O'CLOCK P.M, BY
MAYOR MAURICE A, FERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT:
Comm.iss.ione-t. Manolo Reboso
Comm.issJ.onen J. L. nummen, Jn.
Comm.i.ssionen Rose Gondon
Vice -Mayon Theodone Gibson
Mayon Maun.ice A. Fenno
LSO PRESENT:
Joseph R. Grsass.ie, City Managers
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Managers
Geonge F. Knox, City A.t.onney
Ralph G. Ong.ie, City Ctentz
Malty Hina.i., Assistant CL.ty C.Penh
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: No BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED UNTIL FINAL PLAT IS
APPROVED AND RECORDED,
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY DELETING SUBSECT-
ION (3) OF SECTION 9 AND SUBSECTION (5) OF SECTION 11, ARTICLE
IV, GENERAL PROVISIONS, AND BY ADDING A NEW SUBSECTION (3) TO
SECTION 9 AND A SUBSECTION (5) TO SECTION 11, PROVIDING THAT
NO BUILDING PERMIT SHALL BE ISSUED UNTIL AFTER A FINAL PLAT
HAS BEEN RECORDED AND BY DELETING SUBSECTION (5) OF SECTION
10 AND SUBSECTION (6) OF SECTION 11, ARTICLE IV, GENERAL
PROVISIONS, AND BY ADDING A NEW SUBSECTION 15) TO SECTION 10,
AND A NEW SUBSECTION (6) TO SECTION 11, PROVIDING FOR THE PLATT-
ING OF LOTS IN TOWN HOUSE DEVELOPMENTS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 21,
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
Commissioner Reboso, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the Ordinance
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8694.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and anhOUnoed
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
Public.
1977 was
motion of
was
adopted
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SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCLUDE "ESCORT SERVICES" WITHIN DEFINITION OF
ADULT ENTERTAINMENT USES,
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY INCLUDING ESCORT
SERVICES WITHIN THE DEFINITIONS OF AND REGULATIONS FOR ADULT
ENTERTAINMENT USES, BY RENUMBERING THE EXISTING DEFINITIONS
OF "FAIRWAY" FROM SUBSECTION (26A) TO SUBSECTION (26-B) AND
PROVIDING A NEW DEFINITION (26-A) - ESCORT SERVICE WITHIN
SECTION 2 OF ARTICLE II - DEFINITIONS; AND BY ADDING ESCORT
SERVICE TO THE USES ENUMERATED IN SECTION 44 OF ARTICLE IV -
GENERAL PROVISIONS; AND BY ADDING ESCORT SERVICE TO THE USES
ENUMERATED IN PARAGRAPH (35-A) OF SECTION 1, ARTICLE
XVI - GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-4 DISTRICT; BY REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, AND
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 21,
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. 0n
Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the Ordinance
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8695.
1977, was
motion of
was
adopted
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
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SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ALLOW 'PROFESSIONAL OFFICE' WITHIN R-5 DISTRICTS
AS CONDITIONAL USE,
Mr. Davis: Item 3 was the matter with reference to nlacirg husinecs offices in
the Charter Club and in other areas zoned R-5.
Mr. Reboso: We questioned the possibility last time of including R-5A, is it
included in this or not?
Mr. Davis: No, it is not.
Mrs. Gordon: R-5A, Manolo, would not be the same thing. No. This pertains
basically to the bayfront area downtown, Biscayne Boulevard locations.
Mr. Reboso: Well, last time they told us was one single lot.
Mr. Davis: No, it would include all of those properties zoned R-5 which includes
a lot of bayfront property along north Bayshore Drive.
Mrs. Gordon: It's a conditional use application so you can't automatically apply
it you'll have to have a hearing.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, BY ADDING A NEW SUB-
SECTION (5) TO ARTICLE IV, GENERAL PROVISIONS, SECTION 20;
AND BY ADDING A NEW PARAGRAPH (e) TO ARTICLE X, HIGH DENSITY
MULTIPLE R-5 DISTRICT, SECTION 1, SUB -SECTION (6) TO ALLOW
PROFESSIONAL OFFICES WITHIN THE R-5 DISTRICT, UPON CONDITIONAL
USE APPROVAL; BY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR
PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION.
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Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 21,
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Reboso, the Ordinance
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
197/, vas
Motion of
was
adopted
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8696.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
4, DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF RESCINDING OF RES,39308,
(NIGHTCLUB OPERATION AT SHERATON FOUR AMBASSADORS)
Mr. Davis: nr. "a"or and Commissioners, there's a little history on this. This
was before you at the last meeting in July in the form of an ordinance changing
the Zoning Ordinance so that it would permit nightclubs in hotels with more than
300 rooms. Since that point discussions have been held between the Four Ambass-
adors and the Planning Department and Mr. Whipple will explain the situation at
this point.
Mr. Whipple: Members of the Commission, as indicated by Mr. Davis we have been
in contact with the Four Ambassadors. We have Mr. Berger the legal counsel for
the Four Ambassadors here with us today who I believe has handed you his paper
regarding the subject. In our discussions pursuant to your first deferral we
realized that the amendment as the department had proposed would not accomodate
the Four Ambassadors. That's when we had discussions with Mr. Berger and it was
basically indicated to us that the nightclub as far as the basic difference, the
5:00 O'Clock hour as opposed to our revised hours now which are 3:00 O'Clock for
a lounge was not a critical problem at this point in time but that they wanted to
reserve the right perhaps if they could,to have that use later on. So in essence
I'm suggesting to you that if we were to rescind your previous action their operat-
ion as it is today would continue under a basic license and not a special nightclub
license and that is our recommendation to you. I'm sure Mr. Berger has some con-
cerns as I indicated but we feel that this would be the proper route. The amend-
ment as originally proposed would not accomodate the Four Ambassadors and we be-
lieve this is the proper route for the City Commission to follow.
Rev. Gibson: I'm not so sure I understand.
Mr. Whipple: We have a resolution that was adopted in 1967 which granted a spec-
ial occupational license or certificate of use if you will to the Four Ambassadors
to operate a nightclub until such a time that an amendment was considered by the
City Commission which would allow a nightclub operation in the facility of the
Four Ambassadors. Nothing has been done with this resolution, they have been
operating under this temporary resolution since 1967 with their nightclub operat-
ion. We, when this came to light in checking nightclub licenses throughout the
city, we found that this condition did exist and it was requested that we prepare
an amendment to be considered. We prepared the amendment, however, we did not
realize the Four Ambassadors did not have the number of rental sleeping units by
our definition that the amendment was suggesting and would require. They do have
the basic 50 rental sleeping units which is necessary for commercial activities
they have in the hotel and they do have an excess of 400 transient rooms but a
good number of them do have kitchen facilities which do not qualify as rental
sleeping units.
Mr. Plummer: What you're doing is penalizing them for giving plus items.
Mr. Whipple: No, they have a minimum of 50 rental sleeping units by definition
in order to have their incidental facilities that they have now, their restauraits
and their other commercial activities.
Mr. Plummer: What you want to give them, what is the difference?
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Mfg Whipple: They are not using,to the best of my knowledge, they are not uti1=
icing the nightclub license ability to sta''bpen til 5:00. They could operate
under an ordinary lounge and bar license tit 3:00 and that, to the best of my
knowledge accomodates their needs. Mr. Berger, however, feels that there is a
right that was intended by the City Commission resolution and a right that they
might want to utilize in the future if they change their operation from what it
is now. So we still feel that the 3:00 is sufficient, this need not have an
amendment. By rescinding the resolution it really eliminates any cloud from
their operation.
Mr. Plummer: What they want for the present setup they can't have.
Mr. Whipple: I mean that's the basic subject matter to begin with.
Rev. Gibson: Let me say this, I'm not so sure I understand you. Before I say
what I want to say I find it difficult for us to be able to tell these people
they can't do the business they're doing in view of the fact they've done it all
this time. I have some difficulty with your saying they have an inherent right
when they had a temporary business. You know that jargon bothers me. Ok, if
you say to me we're going to start over, we want these people to be given this
license, I would be saying "Bravo!". What I'm saying is I'd go for it. But you
know, and I'm even reluctant to put them in the bind that if they go, if our
minds are changed and they meet the requirement and they could go to 5:00 for
us to take them to 3:00 and then come back here later knowing the kind of a feel-
ing most people have in this community about whether you want 3:00 or 5:00 and
then let me add I think it must be established once and fcr all we are an inter-
national city and either we want to get with it or we don't want to get with it
and we don't want to be fooling around here talking about tourism, tourism,
tourism today and then tomorrow you know we come lup with another line. You know
I think we ought to bite the bullet to the best interest of all so that we who
sit up here don't have to come up every thirty days to bite that bullet.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Whipple, let me ask you a question if I may. How many other
places do we have in Miami that are allowed to stay open until 5:00?
Mr. Whipple: I was going to say twenty.
Mr. Plummer: It was 18 the last time.
Mr. Whipple: Right in that realm, 18-20 that have nightclub licenses in the
City of Miami....
Mr. Plummer: You know somewhere somebody has got to explain to me where every -
time we come up with this international flavor we're getting to develop a theory
which says that all tourists are drunks.
Mayor Ferre: No, all tourists are night owls.
Mr. Whipple: Mr. Mayor, if I may respond to Father Gibson's comments, we went
further than what I have indicated to you with the idea of what kind of amend-
ment would be necessary to accomodate what you have said, leave it at 5 O'Clock.
Our proposal before would not do it. The alternatives are, in meeting with Mr.
Berger and our Law Department would involving changing several definitions and
adding another amendment in the R-5. We considered this, we are of the opinion
that this is not a proper direction to do it. We could change the words "rental
sleeping unit", "transient" but you must remember also that the term sleeping
unit as we've used it in the city has existed since 1937. It has enforcement
problems, it has ramifications in enforcement and ability to do things going
back a large amount of time and for this reason we felt that the amendment would
not, an amendment changing definitions and the like would not be appropriate and
that's why we're saying this is the best route at this time.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Berger, I'll tell you my opinion on this is that I sympathize
with what you're trying to achieve and I have no objections to the Sheraton Four
Ambassadors maintaining a nightclub open until 5:00 or 18 or 20 other people
doing that in the city. I'm worried about two things. First of all that we do
these things by exception all the time, and you know what's got to be sauce for
the goose has got to be sauce for the gander. You can't go around making special
little exceptions #1 and #2 I think there is same legal implications in all of
this and unfortunately in other areas that if we make this on a permanent basis
for you as he says creates all kinds of problems for the city in a lct of other
places that we may not want open til 5:00. So we're on the horns of a dilemna
and I personally would have to go with the administration's recommendation.
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Mt Sid Berger: Well, if you gentlemen would give me a few minutes I think I
thi ht be able to illuminate the commission somewhat. My name is Sid Berger and
1 have represented the Sheraton Four Ambassadors since we started this project
in 1967. At that time we opened up Birckel1 Avenue. Brickell Avenue could have
gone to a class street which we think it is or it could have gone to an 8th Street
honky-tonk which it is not. I think we are partly responsible for that thrust.
In 1967 having built these four large buildings we asked for a resolution which
would permit us to operate a nightclub and that was granted until further action
of the commission, theory being that at some point the commission would find a
more permanent way to solve the problem which was fine with us. We proceeded for
ten years to pay our license fee and to operate, we've had no violations, we've
had no trouble of any kind. This is a fine first class hotel operated by one of
the major hotel chains and we have continued on that temporary basis. The reason
we're here today is that someone decided that this temporary should be over with
and we should have a permanent arrangement to accomodate the Sheraton Four Ambass-
adors and to give them a license. Now the thrust of today's action is exactly
the opposite of what we started out for. We started this situation to accomodate
the Sheraton on a permanent basis instead of which the resolution today is to
cancel a ten year old resolution and put us right back where we were and kick out
the nightclub license. I don't think that is an intelligent approach. I think
that this hotel with more than 400 rooms is entitled to have this license. I
agree with Mr. Whipple that we probably can live without it but we are a modern
facility, we have some conventions that would like to have late night entertain-
ment several times a year. I don't think we'll go out of business without it
but we're here to provide as much in the way of facilities and entertainment as
we can to attract the public into our hotel. The problem here is that this com-
mission is operating on a 40 year old definition. The trouble is not with us it's
with the definition. The definition is 40 years old. If it would dwell on a
large number of units, 400 units, if it would dwell on the bonifide transient
character of the hotel I'm all for it but somebody got a little over energetic
and said sleeping units shall not include any kitchen facilities. Modern 1977
hotels frequently do have kitchen facilities. The trouble is not with the hotel
the trouble is with the definition. A11 they ought to do is knock out one phrase
that says not including kitchen facilities because we have refrigerators where
you can put cold drinks and fruit. We have a sink in there, you can use it for
a bar, you can use it for waste and it certainly is a good accomodation. There-
fore, my suggestion is the following: (1) That you do nothing and we will con-
tinue until the city is ready to revise its definitions. I have discussed this
in a very friendly way with Mr. Whipple and they are planning to revise these
definitions and to revise the term "sleeping unit". So one solution is to wait
until that happens and we'll go on another year on a temporary license. That's
one solution. The other solution is to amend the definition now and you have
all the safeguards with 400 units, you have all the safeguards by dwelling on
the transient character of a bonafide hotel which certainly qualifies us. All
that I'm suggesting is that you take out these excess words which give you no
benefit and no protection because they are old fashioned and they don't apply.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Berger, in the interest of time...
Mrs. Gordon: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, the amendment is not before us today. The
only thing before us today is the rescinding of the resolution. Mr. Whipple, I
don't see what the urgency is to rescind until we have the other matter before
us at the same time.
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time since I sense the sensus of this commission
I would recommend, Mr. Whipple, that what we're trying to do, I think we're in
agreement as to what we're trying to achieve what we're concerned about is the
way of achieving it. Therefore, unless you're ready to give us the new language
that we should apply today which I assume you're not then I would recommend that
we not rescind the resolution.
Mrs. Gordon: Just defer this item until such time as you have .... I move that.
Mr. whipple: Mr. Mayor, if I may just as a clarification, the specifics regard-
ing amendment change were referring to the overall revision of the Zoning Ordin-
ance. As you know we have a consultant that is working on that. It was not speci-
specifically to this item but overall. A new Zoning Ordinance might have definit-
ion and other regulations that would be applicable to this.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. The way I see it, this has been here for ten years it can be
here a little longer until we get a clarification.
Mayor Ferre: The motion is that this be continued. Is that right?
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Mt, ter eta Yes.
Me. Plummer: No, don't do that, take no action,
Mayor Ferre: Do we need to pass anything at all then?
Mr. Plummer: Take no action.
Rev. Gibson: All right, we take no action then. Sir, does that satisfy yowl
Mayor Ferre: Well then you don't need a resolution. All right, thank you Very
much.
Mr. Berger: I'm perfectly satisfied and I'd be very happy to meet with Mr.
Whipple or anybody else just to bring this out to a permanent and proper solution.
5. GRANT ] -YEAR D(TENS I ON CONDITIONAL USE - EXCESS PARKING LOT 33685--87,
S.W. 23 ST. AND 3686-88 S.W. 22ND TERR „ ETC. (REX ART SUPPLIES)
Mayor Ferre announced that the mission was now ready to hear anv objections
to Item #5. No Objectors Appeared.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 77-734
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE CONDITIONAL
USE GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 35-77, AS LISTED IN
ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE V, SECTION 1 (6)(b), TO PERMIT CON-
STRUCTION AND OPERATION OF AN EXCESS PARKING LOT ON LOTS 44 AND
45 LESS N 10' AND LOTS 52 AND 53, BLOCK 6, MIAMI SUBURBAN ACRES
AMD (4-73), BEING APPROXIMATELY 3685-87 S.W. 23RD STREET AND
3686 S.W. 22ND TERRACE, AS PER PLANS ON FILE, AS AN ACCESSORY
USE TO REX ART SUPPLIES AND A PROPOSED TWO-STORY COMMERCIAL
BUILDING, SUBJECT TO THE DEDICATION OF 10' STRIP ON S.W. 22ND
TERRACE, AND THE POSTING OF SIGNS FOR RIGHTHAND TURNS ONLY ONTO
37TH AVENUE: IN CONJUNCTION WITH VARIANCE APPLICATION; ZONED
R-2 (TWO FAMILY).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.,
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: NONE.
ABSENT: Commissioner Manolo Reboso.
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Gam' 14.YEAR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE ADDITION TO 1-STORY COMMERCIAL Bt .,
ETC./ LOCATED AT 2261-87 S.W. 37TH AVENUE;
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who MoVed
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 77-735
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE
GRANTED BY THE ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 36-77 FROM ORDIN-
ANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4(32), TO PERMIT CON-
STRUCTION OF A TWO-STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING ONE STORY
COMMERCIAL BUILDING, AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PROPOSED TWO
STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON LOTS 46 THROUGH 50 LESS N 10'
OF LOT 46, BLOCK 6, MIAMI SUB ACRES AMD (4-73), BEING APPROX-
IMATELY 2261-87 S.W. 37TH AVENUE, AS PER PLANS ON FILE,
WAIVING ALL OFF-STREET PARKING (63); IN CONJUNCTION WITH
CONDITIONAL USE; ZONED C-2 (COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Manolo Reboso.
7, GRANT 1-YEAR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE - PERMIT 2 STORY ADDITION TO EXISTING
BLDG, LOCATED AT 3925 NO. MIAMI AVE.) WAIVING 11 OF 11 REQ'D PARKING SPACES,
The following resolution was introduce? by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 77-736
A RESOLUTION GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE
GRANTED BY THE ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 40-77 FROM ORDIN-
ANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4(27) TO PERMIT A
SECOND STORY ADDITION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING ON LOT 11 LESS
W 10' AND LESS THE N 2" OF THE E 2' AND LOT 12 LESS W 10',
BLOCK 1, BILTMORE COURT (7-37), BEING 3925 N. MIAMI AVENUE,
AS PER PLANS ON FILE, WAIVING 11 OF 11 REQUIRED OFF-STREET
PARKING SPACES; ZONED c-4 (LIBERAL COMMERCIAL).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT; Commissioner Manolo Reboso.
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81 BRIEF DISCUSSION: PLATtING AND IRE=PLafittuc PROCEDURES,
Mr. Robert Davis: Item # 8 for pouf inforcation if yoU need any, we're here t
answer any questions.
Mr. Fosmoen: This was a question that was raised by the commission.
Mayor Ferre: This is a question of procedure, I've read the memorandum, t Mite
no questions. Are there any questions? Do we need any action?
Mr. Fosmoen: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: No action is needed.
9. ACCEPT PLAT: T. R. SUBDIVISION,
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 77-737
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED T. R. SUBDIVISION, A
SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND ACCEPTING THE
DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MAN-
AGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES:
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Reboso.
10, DlscussION AND DEFERRAL OF DRIVERS LICENSE FACILITY MATTER FOR FINAL
ACTION ON OCTOBER 20, 1977. (CENTRAL SHOPPING CENTER LOCATION),
Mr. Plummer: Item flO, 'fir. Mayor, ✓ou charged me with the responsibility of
holding a hearing in the Grapeland Heights area. First let me thank all the peo-
ple of Grapeland Heights for their help in not only providing the space for the
city but to arrange for it, in particular to Mr. Whipple who represented the City
and the department who also was nice enough to write this report for me. We did,
in fact, have the meeting, Mr. Mayor. I don't know whether you wish for me to
read this into the minutes or how do you want me to handle it, sir?
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you just tell us the thrust of it and submit the
rest of it unless you can do it quicker by reading it.
Mr. Plummer: The responsibility or the charge of the meeting, Mr. Mayor, was to
see if, in fact, there was any way humanly possible to come up with a compromise
trying to answer any and all questions. And Mr. Mayor, it was adamant on behalf
of the people of the neighborhood that they under no circumstances wanted the
opening in the wall. I will say for the record there was a great deal of feeling
that if this commission in its stupidity - and I think that's the way one speaker
put it - did allow that wall, for God's sakes put it at the intersection. What
is that Jasper, 38th? Thirty-eighth. That if we were stupid enough to allow
that opening that we put it at 38th Avenue. Mr. Mayor, I'm not even going to
thank you for giving me this responsibility but I think it was a good meeting.
You were represented by Mr. Cobo who threw the meeting into a tizzy, Father Gibson
who kept everything in left field. So Mr. Mayor, the meeting was held. Unfortun-
ately there was no middle ground and I think that reports to you about as best as
I know how.
Mayor Ferre: All right, does anyone want to speak to'it? If not, I don't think
there is any action, I don't hear anybody wanting to take any action on it so
this commission is now adjourned unless anybody has any Sure, you can dis-
cuss it, always. There is nothing going to happen unless you want... You want
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to saki Sonething? Where's always the problem of over selling. You've got to be
dareful of that.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I know all about that. Excuse me, Commissioners. We al-
ways speak after the other side speaks and that's why we're confused. Are we
supposed to speak?
Mayor Ferre: I don't think so, I don't think there is anything that is going to
be done.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: This is just a report on the meeting.
Mayor Ferre: That's all unless somebody wants to move otherwise. I don't think
anything is going to happen.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: All right.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's have the record clear. Ok? Mr. Mayor, I assume that
it is understood by this commission that.... Well excuse me that's not true either,
Mr. whipple, it is scheduled today for discussion not for action. Ok? Now, I
want it understood for the record I'm not saying which way I'm going to vote. By
no action today of this commission you are, I hate to use the word threatening,
but you've been told in no uncertain terms that that facility is probably going
to be moved out of the City of Miami. I'm just making that for the record that
everybody understands where we're at.
Mayor Ferre: Any futher discussion?
Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, recognize that this item was advertised and this has
been deferred on a number of occasions.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I disagree with you, Mr. Davis. Read me what it says on the
agenda.
Mr. Davis: The agenda states it's for a discussion regarding the Drivers' License
facility. However, this was advertised this way in the three papers and notices
were sent to all people concerned as a discussion. However, this being a contin-
uation of the situation all the way through if you wish. The Law Department ....
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Davis, the normal operating procedure of this procedure
on a discussion item at best is to set a date for action if that is what the com-
mission wishes to do. There is a big difference between taking action and dis-
cussing it. We are always accused around here of discussing things too long.
If you want to say something please do.
Mr. William Graymeyer. ... the wall, we feel it necessary and either egress or
ingress either one. ...
Mr. Plummer: Father, there was no middle ground on those people. We explored
Father everything you can explore. Whipple came out of left field with ideas and
you know we tried to take a road around the bank, we tried to take a road around
Zayres we tried to take a road everywhere just to see if it was possible and I
think these men who were on the opposite side will readily admit that those people
were still adamant in their objection. They did say, the underlying current, if
you're foolish enough to vote against us please make sure it's at 38th Avenue
which is the intersection rather than where it was proposed to the east of the
intersection. We went through everything conceivable and some I say were out of
space and they were adamant. Now let me say one other thing. Ok? And I'm not
trying to sway anybody on this commission, I want you to know that basically there
were about 18 people there who were in objection, 18-25. Is that a fair figure,
Jasper? It was maybe 40 people there total. ... Ok. All I'm trying to say,
Jasper, trying to be fair and draw a real picture that maybe in Grapeland Heights
there are 400 homes, that only 25 came there to object but all of those who were
there and spoke objected. Ok.
Mr. Jasper Andre: Commissioner, may I remind you that we did offer a compromise.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, you offered three or four compromises, yes. I'm not putting
you down, I'm speaking to the objectors.' The charge of the commission to me was
to try and work with the objectors to see if there was middle ground. Yes, you
offered three as I recall.
Mr. Fosmoen: Just as a point of clarification, does the commission wish this
brought up for reconsideration at a future date? There is a wall where the hole
was and it will stay there unless this commission changes its position.
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Mt. Plummer: And they will move if this commission doesn't
do
ao anything.set it fNowan-
what do you want? Do you want to .forget about it, do you want
other hearing? What do you want to do about it? Ok, somebody has to take the
bull by the horns. I will make a motion at,,this time that this be scheduled for
the 20th of October for a final decision. Because as itstands
dsen foit'sts atnt aand
deferred status, right Bob? ... But it was originally s
it was deferred.
Mr. Davis: It was originally scheduled as a proposed amendment to the resolution
which built the wall.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, so in other words
the
eiononly
nway
d ylyyou're
se egoing
,to bring it to an
end and close the door is to a
Mr. Davis: This could be brought up at any time whether it be October, November,
December.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I'm saying until you have that meeting you're not going to
conclude the item.
Mr. Davis; That's true.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that it be scheduled for October... My motion says
that this be heard and brought to a final conclusion so these people can either
suffer or rejoice. That's what it is.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is motion on the floor. :Is there a second that
this matter be brought up for a public hearing for final determination on November
17th?
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its
adoption.
MOTION NO. 77-738
A MOTION ESTABLISHING THE DATE OF NOVE1 ER 17, 1977 FOR THE
HOLDING OF A POF LIC THE DRIVERSHEARING
AND FINAL DETERMINATION OF THE
DISPOSITION LICENSE FACILITY LOCATED AT CEN-
TRAL SHOPPING PLAZA.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner J. L. Plummer
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Vice -Mayor Theodore Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mrs. John Gentry: May I say one thing for the record? I'm Mrs. John Gentry. We
had our meeting June 1st and on that day from 3 O'Clock unwatil
ln8we y abouthfive ad
40 eeanand
e
a half inches of rain at the airport. That's why
thereout of 400 homes, we would have had many more, just for the record.
Mr. Plummer: I agree, and while you say that let me go beyond that point. The
Public Works Director is not here but what is the north street of that there? Is
that llth Street? Mr. Grassie, sir, I strongly suggest that you have someone
investigate the serious problem of no drainage on that street. I came down that
street and there must have been 12 cars drnd out
and that is aseheavily
used
d
street on the north side of the shop„ gowefaG
into that. I'm glad you brought that up.
THERE BEINGs.NO•FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME'CLEFOREP.MTHE CITY COMMIS-
SION THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 3:5
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MAYOR
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CITY CLERK
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
COMMISSION AGENDA AND CI1'Y CLERK REPORT
GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE
GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 35-77, AS LISTED
IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE V, SECTION 1(6) (b).
GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE GRANTED
BY THE ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 36-77 FROM ORDINANCE
NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4(32).
GRANTING A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE GRANTED
BY THE ZONING BOARD RESOLUTION NO. 40-77 FROM ORDINANCE
NO. 6871, ARTICLE XXIII, SECTION 4(27)
ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED T.R. SUBDIVISION.
COMMISSION
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