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Oltimas noticias de Cuba y el mundo -El
Mananero - Alex Otaola
REPORTER
Hola, buenos dias, como estan. Bienvenidos
al rancho. Feliz despertar. Liege) el viernes,
final de semana. Vamos a desayunar rico
gracias a la gente de Karla Bakery que nos
ha enviado todo este desayuno porque
tenemos un invitado hoy especial. El rancho
se viste de Gala para recibir al comisionado
Joe Carollo. Bienvenido.
JOE CAROLLO
Muchas gracias, Alex. Muchas gracias.
REPORTER
Este es tu casa, to sabes.
JOE CAROLLO
Muchas gracias, pero oye, y espero que
tenga un ejercito que venga hoy porque...
REPORTER
No, esto todo para ti. No se va el invitado
hasta que no se coma todo.
JOE CAROLLO
Todos me tienen que empujar como una
pelota grande de esta de playa para salir de
aqui.
REPORTER
Despues dicen que fui yo quien te mato,
Carollo. Te quieren matar y to no te quieres
morir. Estamos corriendo cosas, tu nombre
esta en las noticias desde final del ario para
aca. Hay una especie de caceria de bruja
contra ti, hay una persecucion contra ti.
(Como to defines este momento de tu vida?
JOE CAROLLO
Bueno, defino este momento de mi vida
como que Dios me estuvo entrenando cada
fase de mi vida para esta hora que me voy a
enfrentar. Porque yo siempre me preguntaba
Breaking news from Cuba and around the
world -El Mananero - Alex Otaola
REPORTER
Hello, good morning, how are you. Welcome
to the ranch. Happy to be up. Friday is here,
end of the week. We are going to have a nice
breakfast thanks to Karla Bakery, and they
sent us this breakfast because we have a
special guest today. The ranch is dressed for
a Gala to welcome Commissioner Joe
Carollo. Welcome.
JOE CAROLLO
Thank you very much, Alex. Welcome,
Garon. Thank you very much.
REPORTER
This is your home, you know that.
JOE CAROLLO
Thank you very much, but hey, and I hope
you have an army coming today because....
REPORTER
No, this is all for you. The guest can't leave
until the all the food is gone.
JOE CAROLLO
Everyone is going to have to push me around
like a big beach ball to get out of here.
REPORTER
They'll say it was me who killed you, Carollo.
They want to kill you and you don't want to
die. We are running things; your name has
been in the news since the end of the year to
now. There is a kind of witch hunt against
you, there is a persecution against you. How
do you define this moment in your life?
JOE CAROLLO
Well, I define this moment in my life as that,
that God was training me at every phase of
my life for this moment that I am going to
face. Because I always wondered why I have
learned this, and it was because I saw the
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con toda Ia intencitn de agreder a Miami y la
unica razor) que no pudo fue porque un poli
se ya lo agarro.
REPORTER
el se part antes, cuando to te levantaste y le
dijiste que ahi ya el freno, el policia vino y lo
agarro pero el se freno
JOE CAROLLO
No, no, no, yo no creo que se freno. El venfa
a mandar, el policia fue que lo agarrt, pero...
Mira, yo soy un senior citizen. Puedo cumplir
69 arios, ahora en marzo. Y yo no voy a dejar
que yo este sentado en una ceilla para que
me tumben en la ceilla, para el piso, y ahi si
Ia cosa es, ya estoy fastidiado cuando estoy
en el piso con una ceilla. Entonces la
reaccion normal. Me levanto para dar la
bienvenida.
REPORTER
Pero... Se te vio que ya tenias la mano y...
todo lista para dar la bienvenida.
JOE CAROLLO
pero esta no es Ia primera vez que esta
senora ha tenido problemas asf ,verdad?
porque sf el tiene un arresto policiaco que lo
tiene sellado imagfnate ese caroio tuvieron
un arresto policiaco sellado esto fuera
primera plana, estuvieran todos los vigorones
brincando por que, que serial
REPORTER
�Y por que a el se lo permiten sellado?
JOE CAROLLO
Bueno, porque este es el tonto util que
necesitan ahora con el otro que este sentado
al lado del para ver ctmo hacen el dano en
destruir la ciudad de Miami.
REPORTER
Ahf quiero Ilegar, Carollo. Todo esto es...
JOE CAROLLO
Y despues lo acaban enseguida de ellos.
Porque saben que con todo lo que tienen no
assaulting me and the only reason he couldn't
was because a cop already grabbed him.
REPORTER
He stopped before when you stood up and
told him that there was the halt. The
policeman came and grabbed him, but he
stopped.
JOE CAROLLO
No, no, no, no, I don't think he stopped. He
came straight at me, the policeman was the
one who caught him, but.... Look, I am a
senior citizen. I will be 69 years old, now in
March. And I'm not going to let myself be
pushed to the floor while sitting on the chair
and that's the thing, I'm already screwed
when I'm on the floor with a chair. Then the
normal reaction is to stand up to welcome
what's coming.
REPORTER
But... I could see that you already had your
hand and... all ready to give him the
welcome.
JOE CAROLLO
But this is not the first time that this man has
had problems like this, right? because he has
a police arrest that is sealed, imagine if
Carollo had a sealed police arrest that would
be on the front page, all the sharks would be
jumping up and down.
REPORTER
And why is he allowed to have it sealed?
JOE CAROLLO (
Well, because this is the useful fool, they
need now with the other one sitting next o
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des roymg the city of Miami.
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REPORTER
That's what I'm getting at, Carollo. All this is...
JOE CAROLLO
And then they finish it on their day because
they know that with everything, they have
they can't resist anything, but now they are
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montanas lindisimas. No, no, yo no tengo
dinero para comprar, tengo amistades por
todo el mundo y ahi voy a estar bien cuidado,
bien protegido y cuando venda mi casa en
Coconut Grove, que Dios me dio esa casa
porque sabia como iba a subir en dinero y
ese va a ser mi retiro. La casa que no me
pueden guitar. Mira, fija hasta donde Ilega la
mentira de esta gente. Ustedes lo han oido el
abogado de ello diciendo que van a Ilevar los
Marshalls para que nos cambien el candado
de la casa y tirarme a mi y mi mujer a la
calle. La constitucion del estado de la Florida
es la que me protege porque claramente dice
que si uno vive en esa casa no te la pueden
guitar. Lo que es la otra parte de Homestead,
que es en donde to Ilenas los papeles en to
condado donde vives para que te bajen los
impuestos, eso es otra adicional. El
Homestead Exception. Pero la que te protege
maximo es la constitucion del Estado.
Entonces, esta gente le estan diciendo a toda
la prensa amarilla que tienen, que nada mas
que lo que ellos dicen es lo que reportan, que
ellos pueden hacer eso. Pero sin embargo
aqui ves como en marzo 8 del 2022, cuando
le estaban pidiendo al juez que no me
permitiera votar a mi en rehacer los distritos.
Y la razon era porque si mi casa regresara a
estar en el distrito medio, que no lo estaba
antes, y yo me mudara para ahi, que yo voy
a tener Homestead y ellos no pueden venir a
quitarme la casa. Entonces, esto es lo que
ellos mismos dijeron, ahora vienen con otro
cuento y ,por que estan haciendo todo esto?
No es que quieren mi cabeza, pero mas que
eso, no es mi cabeza solo. La cabeza
principal que quieren es la cabeza de todos
ustedes, de los residentes de Miami, de los
empleadores de la ciudad de Miami, que
quieren saquearle millones y millones de
dolares. Ellos en las demandas que tienen, si
las sumas todas, le estan pidiendo la ciudad
mas de 125 millones de dolares. Entonces,
con estos dos perritos de ellos que han
puesto ahora en la comisibn, piensan que
van a arreglar todo, votar la abogada, poner
un abogado nuevo de ellos y que diga hay
que Ilegar un acuerdo con ellos y que
entonces se la apruebe millones de dolares.
I have friends all over the world and there I
will be well taken care of, well protected and
when I sell my house in Coconut Grove, God
gave me that house because he knew how it
was going to rise in value and that will be my
retirement. The house that can't be taken
away from me. Look, look at how far these
people lie. You have heard their lawyer
saying that they are going to take the
Marshalls to change the lock on the house
and throw me and my wife out on the street.
The constitution of the state of Florida is the
one that protects me because it clearly says
that if you live in that house, they can't take it
away from you. That is the other part of
Homestead, which is where you fill out the
paperwork in your county where you live to
get your taxes lowered, that is an additional
one. The Homestead Exception. But the one
that protects you the most is the state
constitution. So, these people are telling all
the tabloids that they have, that nothing but
what they say is what they report, that they
can do that. But yet here you see like on
March 8, 2022, when they were asking the
judge not to allow me to vote in redistricting.
And the reason was because if my house
went back to being in the district, which it
wasn't before, and I moved back there, that
I'm going to have Homestead and they can't
come and take my house away from me. So,
this is what they themselves said, now they
come up with another story and why are they
doing all this? It's not that they want my head,
but more than that, it's not my head alone.
The main head they want is the head of all of
you, of the residents of Miami, of the
employers of the city of Miami, that they want
to loot millions and millions of dollars from
you. They in the lawsuits that they have, if
you add them all up, they are asking the city
for over $125 million. So, with these two
lapdogs that they have put now in t� he
commission, they thWIc that they are going to
fix eve ing, vo a out the attorney, pu
ne a Forney of their choosing and-t at will
say that they have to reach,arf agreement
with them and then theill have millions of
dollars. That is why they want to remove
people from the commission.
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Para eso quieren sacar gente de Ia comision.
REPORTER
Necesitan sacarte de todo.
JOE CAROLLO
Y necesitaban a ver como empezaban con
abogada de la ciudad. Entonces eso es lo
que hay etas de todo eso.
REPORTER
Y de ahi viene la bronca tuya el otro die
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JOE CAROLLO
Exactamente con el senor. Porque el senor
este, que estaba hablando, que el es un gran
negociante dice. Que bueno caramba que un
gran negociante pero que yo sepa el no tiene
ningun titulo universitario pero eso no quiere
decir que no puede ser un comerciante
bueno y necesita un titulo. pero el senor
viene de una familia que to que la familia
hacia era manejar grim, tener un negocio de
grua de carro. Pilares de Ia comunidad.
REPORTER
Que quieres decir por pilares de Ia
comunidad.
JOE CAROLLO
Fijate, pilares de la comunidad, duenos de
barras, duerios de camiones de recoger
basura, grueros, las clases de gente que
todos lo amamos, que sabemos que son los
pilares de nuestra comunidad. Entonces, el
senor durante Ia eleccion dice que puso de
su bolsillo 28 mil y pico de dolares en la
campana. En Ia campana. No una cantidad
exagerada, pero donde se pone un poco raro
entender eso es cuando, noviembre primero,
durante la campana, un jurado, no un jurado,
un juez, le pone un fallo que los 50 mil
dolares que el y su compania habian sacado
durante COVID no lo habian pagado y que le
habia 59 mil dolares casi al TD Bank. ,Como
to le vas a dar 28 mil dolares de to bolsillo a
REPORTER
They need to get you out of everything.
JOE CAROLLO
They needed to see how they would get
started with the city attorney. So that's what's
behind all that.
REPORTER
And that's why you were so angry the other
day.
JOE CAROLLO
Exactly with this gentleman. Because this
gentleman who was talking about that he is a
great businessman says what a great
businessman he is but as far as I know he
does not have a college degree, but that does
not mean that he cannot be a good
businessman and need a degree but the
gentleman comes from a family that drove
tow trucks, and had a tow truck business.
Pillars of the community.
REPORTER
What do you mean by pillars of the
community?
JOE CAROLLO
Look, pillars of the community, bar owners,
trash pickup owners, crane operators, the
kinds of people that we all love, that we know
are the pillars of our community.
Then, the gentleman during the election says
that he put 28 thousand and some dollars out
of his pocket in the campaign. In the
campaign. Not an exaggerated amount, but
where it gets a little weird to understand is
when, on November 1st, during the
campaign, a jury, not a jury, a judge, issues a
ruling on him that the $50,000 that he and his
company had taken out during COVID had
not paid it and that he owed $59,000 to TD
Bank. How are you going to give $28,000 out
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gente que se han pasado anos diciendo que
yo soy to mejor, la ultima Coca-Cola en el
desierto. Que me piden mi apoyo
constantemente, que lo apoyo, lo apoyo,
porque no lo apoyo. Entonces despues salen
diciendo que eso es lo peor. Este fue Gabela,
que lo hizo en el 18, en el 19. Pardo, que con
el Gay Eight de la calle 8 yo era uno de los
sponsors principal, Platinum Sponsor,
constantemente Ilamandome, hablando
conmigo, invitandome, hablando maravillas
de mi.
REPORTER
Y ahora mal todo.
JOE CAROLLO
Y nada mas que se acaba el juicio cuando
tienen el grupito de los 15 de los
muchachones de la calle 8, ,quien es uno
del grupo de los 15 que esta pidiendo mis
renuncias? Es el senor Pardo. Yo enseguida
me di cuenta de que hay algo raro y cuando
veo un par de semanas despues que
pensaron que no lo iba a averiguar, pero me
mandan muchas cosas a mi tambien y el
senor pardo celebrd sus 60 anos en una
fiesta en Ball and Chain y era de campana,
pero caramba, yo creo que se le olvido,
quizas vamos a tener que recordarselo, que
no puso nada en el reporte de lo que se
gastaron, ni ninguna contribucidn de ellos, de
In Kind, que ademas que solo puede Ilegar a
mil. Pero bueno, eso son boberias pequenas,
vamos a it a una que no es tan pequena.
El senor Pardo dice que el puso, se
recuerden a Arriola 100 mil Mares. Senor
Pardo dice que el puso 165 mil 300 y pico de
Mares de su bolsillo a la campana, ya que el
nada mas que pudo levantar 90 mil.
Senor Pardo dice que el puso y el no es una
persona rica.
REPORTER
,,De ddnde se sacs el dinero? Bueno, es...
LQuien se lo dio?
JOE CAROLLO
Esa es la pregunta, si alguien se to dio. Pero
simplemente yo he estado pidiendo por
who have spent years saying that I am the
best, the last Coca-Cola in the desert.
They constantly ask for my support, that I
support this, I support that, then when I do
not support it, then later they come out saying
that I am the worst thing. This was Gabela,
who did it in the 18th, in the 19th.
Pardo, who with the Gay Eight on 8th Street, I
was one of the main sponsors, Platinum
Sponsor, constantly calling me, talking to me,
inviting me, speaking highly of me.
REPORTER
Now all you do is wrong.
JOE CAROLLO
And then once the trial is over, when they
have the little group of the 15 boys of 8th
Street, who is one part of the group of the 15,
who is asking for my resignation? It is Mr.
Pardo. I immediately realized that there was
something strange and when I see a couple
of weeks later, and they thought I was not
going to find out, they send a lot of things to
me too...and Mr. Pardo celebrated his 60th
birthday at a party at Ball and Chain and it
was a campaign party, but gee, I think he
forgot, maybe we will have to remind him,
that he did not put anything in the report of
what they spent, nor any contribution from
them, from In Kind, which also can only go up
to a thousand. But well, that is small
nonsense, let's go to one that is not so small.
Mr. Pardo says that he put, remember Arriola
100 thousand dollars. Mr. Pardo says that he
put 165 thousand 300 plus dollars from hid
pocket to the campaign, since he could only
raise 90 thousand. r-
Mr. Pardo says that he contributed the
money, %but a is not a nch person.
REPORTER
Where did he get the money? Or rather...
Who gave it to him?
JOE CAROLLO
That's the question, if someone gave it to
him, but I've been asking for weeks. Geez,
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semanas. Caramba, dime, ensena que ese
dinero estuvo en la cuenta bancaria tuya por
dias antes o semanas antes.
REPORTER
Es que tocas cada tecla, Carollo.
JOE CAROLLO
Pero dejame explicarte por que se va a tener
que investigar eso. Porque aqui hay to que
se necesita por una investigacibn causa
probable. Y para tambien meter subpoena. Y
4cual es la causa probable?
Bueno, la causa probable es que el senor
Pardo dio primero 60,340 dblares creo que
fue en el primer reporte porque queria
machar lo que le habian dado a I. Entonces
viene mas de tres meses y medio despuas lo
unico que levantb para ese periodo fueron
500 y pico de dblares, pero parece que se dio
otros 105.000 dolares. Pero empiezo a ver el
reporte (y yo tengo un poquito de experiencia
en estas cosas). Yo puedo ver lo que otros no
ven y veo que dos dias despuas que dio los
105 mil dolares, he escrito como 7, 8
cheques que casi todos, 42 mil de los 48 mil
que escribib, es para contacto directo, o sea
caminar, tocar puertas o telefono.
Pero un problemita, yo saque la cuenta, mi
hermano CPA pero yo conozco tanto como
el, de numeros. Y la cuenta me dio lo
siguiente, que en dos dias, para que pudiera
escribir esa cantidad de en cheque, tuvo que
tener 175 gente caminando ocho horas cada
dia, 16 horas, a 15 dolares la hora, a 15 los
estoy poniendo altos, imposible.
REPORTER
No estaria la gente tirada a las Galles.
JOE CAROLLO
Entonces, lque es lo que yo creo que paso?
Especulacibn mia.
REPORTER
1,Que usted cree que paso?
tell me, show me that that money was in your
bank account for days before or weeks
before.
REPORTER
You know how to push buttons, Carollo.
JOE CAROLLO
But let me explain why that's going to have to
be investigated. Because here you have
what's needed for a probable cause
investigation. And, for a subpoena. And what
is the probable cause? Well, the probable
cause is that Mr. Pardo first gave $60,340. I
think it was in the first report because he
wanted to match what had been given to him.
Yes, campaign donations, yes. Then comes
more than three and a half months later the
only thing he raised for that period was
500-something dollars, but it looks like he
gave himself another $105,000. He gave it to
himself. Yes, he gave it to himself. But the
report is starting to, and I have a little bit of
experience in these things. I can see what
others can't...and I see that two days after he
gave the 105 thousand dollars, he's written
like 7, 8 checks that almost all of them, 42
thousand of the 48 thousand he wrote, is for
direct voter contact, that is to say walking,
knocking on doors or telephone. But a little
problem came up, I ran the numbers, my
brother is CPA but I know as much as he
does about numbers. And the math gave me
the following, that in two days, so that you
could write that number of checks, you had to
have 175 people walking eight hours every
day,16 hours, at 15 hours of the hour, at 15
I'm putting them high. Impossible.
REPORTER
People would not be out on the streets.
JOE CAROLLO
So, what do I think happened? My
assumption.
REPORTER
What do you think happened?
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JOE CAROLLO
Que le dijeron el dinero viene, no to
preocupes, se va a levantar. Entonces, senor,
se estuvo gastando ese dinero cuatro
semanas de antes, tres semanas, dos
semanas, uno semana y cuando lo puso de
su bolsillo porque vino del cielo.
Es que pagan a todo el mundo lo que le
debian, pero esto se resuelve muy fad, el
senor dice que el ha venido igual que Gabela
a comerse en vivo la corrupcion, a ser
transparente, pero uno no ensena de
donde... Te voy a dar algo que Ia prensa
amarillista de Miami no dio a conocer. Yo
presente una mocion que fue aprobada tres -
dos en la ultima reunion y los dos que
votaron en contra ester] correcto -Gabela y
Pardo. Y la mocion era simple una resolucion
que se va a hacer la ley ahora en el futuro
porque to no puedes it para atras que si un
candidato dice que apuesta dinero de su
bolsillo a Ia campana tiene que ensenar que
lo tenia en la cuenta o de donde sacb el
presta. Entonces, 4como es que campeones,
como dice el tabloide de Miami Herald,
campeones de transparencia y
anticorrupcion? Voten en contra de una ley
como esa.
REPORTER
Si to vienes a luchar contra la corrupcion
como no aprobar leyes anticorrupcibn, 4,no?
Claro, cuando to luchas contra la corrupcion
lo primero que tiene que hacer es reinar la
transparencia en tus donaciones.
JOE CAROLLO
Look, before this is all over, we are even
going to hear about Generalissimo Manuel
Noriega and his right-hand man, General
Paredes. Why are you looking at me? What's
coming? Well, it has to do, it has to do, it has
to do because he is the Jose Marti of Little
Havana. He says that thanks to him we have
Little Havana, that he was the one who gave
it life, brought tourism. This Mr. Fuller, the one
who cried at the trial and cried and the judge
sent him away and the wife said she could
not come to the city of Miami because she
JOE CAROLLO
They told him the money is coming, don't
worry, it's going to come. So, he was
spending that money four weeks before,
three weeks, two weeks, one week and then
he put it in from his own pocket because it
came from the sky. Then they paid everyone
what they owed them. But this is very easy to
solve, the gentleman says that he has come,
just like Gabela, to eat corruption alive, to be
transparent, but then does not show where...
I am going to give you something that the
yellowjournalists of the Miami Herald did not
make-kknown. I presented a motion that was
approved three - o e as a inq,,.
w o voted against it gabela and
pardo. The motion was simple - a resolution
that is going to make law now for the future,
because you can't go backwards, that if a
candidate says that he is giving his campaign
money from his pocket he has to show that
he had it in the account or from where he got
the loan.
No, this is not what exists. So how is it that
champions, as the tabloid Miami Herald says,
champions of transparency and
anti -corruption, vote against a law like that?
REPORTER
If you come to fight against corruption, how
can you not pass anti -corruption laws, right?
Of course, when you fight against corruption
the first thing you have to do is to give
transparency in your donations.
JOE CAROLLO
Look, before this is all over, we are even
going to hear about Manuel Noriega's
generalism and his right-hand man General
Paredes. And why are you looking at me?
What's coming? What does Noria Gaquin
have to do with it? Well, it has to do, it has to
do, it has to do because the Jose Marti of the
Little Vain. who says that thanks to him we
have the little vain, that he was the one who
gave it life, brought tourism. this Mr. Fuller,
the one who cried at the trial and cried and
juelo sent away so that he could so, yes she
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REPORTER:
Los empresarios Bill Fuller y Martin Pinilla le
pidieron a la Corte Federal que embargue
parte del salario del comisionado Joe Carollo
para pagar el veredicto que ganaron en
contra del comisionado en un juicio por la
demanda por haber violado sus derechos de
libre expresibn.
(VIDEO OF PRESS CONFERENCE)
El verano pasado, un jurado dictaminb que
Carollo deberia pagar 63 millones de dolares.
Su salario es de 58 mil dolares al ario. Al
sumarle beneficios, alcanza unos 100 mil. La
orden indica embargar el 25%.
Algo completamente injusto, afirma el
comisionado.
JOE CAROLLO (ON VIDEO)
Si me quieren ver en la calle, estoy seguro de
que me quieren ver en la calle. Si quieren
pedir paredbn, que to piden tambien.
REPORTER
Y justamente le doy la bienvenida en el
estudio al comisionado de Miami, Joe
Carollo, que ha Ilegado aqui esta noche para
responder a esta nueva exigencia de Ia Corte
Federal en Ft. Lauderdale. Comisionado le
agradezco mucho su tiempo.
JOE CAROLLO
Al contrario, Gloria. Muchas gracias a ti.
REPORTER
Usted dijo que es ilegal que el estatuto no
permite eso y eso sere imposible porque
usted es Ia cabeza de su familia, usted se
sostiene la persona que mantiene a su
familia
REPORTER:
Businessmen Bill Fuller and Martin Pinilla
asked the Federal Court to garnish part of
Commissioner Joe Carollo's salary to pay the
verdict they won against the Commissioner in
a lawsuit for violating their free speech rights.
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Last summer, a jury ruled that Carollo should
pay $63 million. His salary is $58,000 a year.
When benefits are added, it comes to about
$100,000. The order states that 25% should
be garnished.
Something completely unfair, says the
commissioner.
JOE CAROLLO (ON VIDEO)
If they want to see me on the street, I am
sure they want to see me on the street. If they
want to ask for a firing squad, let them ask for
it too.
REPORTER:
And I would like to welcome in the studio the
Commissioner of Miami, Joe Carollo, who
has come here tonight to respond to this new
request from the Federal Court in Ft.
Lauderdale. Commissioner, thank you very
much for your time.
JOE CAROLLO
On the contrary, Gloria. Many thanks to you.
REPORTER
You said it is illegal that the statute does not
allow that and that will be impossible because
you are the head of your household, you are
the person who supports your family.
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,La ciudad no se puede negar a esa orden?
JOE CAROLLO
No, Ia ciudad no se puede negar esa orden,
pero como esto, se ha pedido una audiencia
alante de la jueza, como es el proceso, para
que se determine en una audiencia, Ia ciudad
lo que va hacer, que me imagino, ea poner
ese dinero al lado, hasta que esa audiencia...
REPORTER
Congelarlo, digamos.
JOE CAROLLO
Exactamente.
REPORTER
No necesariamente quiere decir que se lo
van a guitar.
JOE CAROLLO
No. Hasta que esa audiencia se determine.
Pero lo que quieren hacer de nuevo es
molestar, porque esto se me tienen sabido
cuantos meses que me estan quitando 25%
de mi salario, que no le duele a ellos, pero
que esta congelado.
REPORTER
Y ustedes pueden usarlo.
JOE CAROLLO
Exactamente.
REPORTER
Comisionado Joe Carollo, en medio de todo
esto, en las prbximas semanas, comienza a
legislar una comision nueva, con dos
integrantes nuevos. El activista de Miami,
Damian Pardo y tambian Miguel Angel
Gabela, que le game) en segunda vuelta a
Alex Diaz de la Portilla. Ambos han criticado
mucho la manera en que se estaba
legislando, incluyendo muchas crlticas en su
contra. Damian Pardo ha dicho que usted
debia renunciar. Usted teme que algunos de
estos comisionados, una vez que comiencen
a trabajar en la comisibn, piden su
destitucibn.
REPORTER
So, the city can't vacate this order?
JOE CAROLLO
No, the city cannot decline that order, but a
hearing has been requested in front of the
judge, as is the process, to determine at a
hearing, what the city will do. I imagine, it will
be to put that money aside, until that
hearing...
REPORTER
Freeze it, let's say.
JOE CAROLLO
Exactly.
REPORTER
It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to
take it away.
JOE CAROLLO
Not until that hearing is determined. But what
they want to do again is to bother me,
because they have known for how many
months that they are taking 25% of my salary,
which doesn't hurt them, but it is frozen.
REPORTER
And you guys can use it.
JOE CAROLLO
Exactly.
REPORTER
Commissioner Joe Carollo, in the midst of all
this, in the next few weeks, begins to legislate
a new commission, with two new members.
Miami activist Damian Pardo and Miguel
Angel Gabela, who beat Alex Diaz de la
Portilla in a runoff election. Both have been
very critical of the way legislation was being
passed, including many criticisms against
you. Damian Pardo has said that you should
resign. Do you fear that some of these
commissioners, once they start working in the
commission, will ask for your removal?
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JOE CAROLLO
Pero, mira, pueden pedir lo que quieran, pero
ellos no tienen el derecho bajo la ley a
quitarme a mi de ahr. Gloria, mira, el mundo
da mucha vuelta. Y si algo me ha ensenado
es que cada vuelta que da, yo me aguanto y
estoy ahi. Y mientras otros se caen, me van
a ver en mi parado. Estos senores, con todo
respeto, son aliados de estos senores que
me estan demandando a mi y a la ciudad.
REPORTER
,Pero los puestos, no lo eligieron?
JOE CAROLLO
Bueno, sr, exactamente. Votantes, diferentes,
distritos diferentes. Pero no quita que estan a
representar los intereses de estos senores.
Estos senores lo que quieren es que ellos
dos, si a ver si buscan uno mas, le dan ciento
y pico millones de dolares de la ciudad de
Miami, y decir que tenemos que hacerlo por
Carollo para que ellos salgan de ahr con
ciento y pico millones de Mares y duenos de
la ciudad de Miami. Y eso no va a pasar.
REPORTER
Mas temprano entreviste a Damian Pardo y,
el me dice a mi que el considera que usted
debe pagar esa demanda y que el considera
que la ciudad no deberra cubrir los costos de
esa demanda.
JOE CAROLLO
Claro, por eso el esta aspirando, pero si el
senor quiere tanta transparencia, lo primero
que tiene que hacer es ensenar un mes
antes en la cuenta bancaria personal de el,
de donde vinieron los 165 mil y pico de
Mares que el puso, dice de su bolsillo, a su
cuenta de campana. de donde vino ese
dinero, que lo ensene publicamente. Yo
enseno lo que piden mro y se lo dan a estos
senores de mis finanzas. Pero el senor
Pardo, que se pas8 anos besandome a mi la
mano, hablando que yo era lo mas grande,
pidiendome dinero para su parada en la calle
8, invitandome a todo, de buena a primera,
ahora Carollo es malo.
JOE CAROLLO
But look, they can ask for whatever they
want, but they don't have the right under the
law to take me away from there. Gloria, look,
the world takes a lot of turns. And if it's taught
me anything, it's that every turn it takes,
hang on and I'm there. And while others fall,
they will see me standing. These gentlemen,
with all due respect, are allies of these
gentlemen who are suing me and the city.
REPORTER
Weren't they elected?
JOE CAROLLO
Well, yes, exactly. Different voters, different
districts. But it doesn't take away from the fact
that they are there to represent the interests
of these gentlemen. These gentlemen what
they want is for the two of them, let's see if
they look for one more, to give them a
hundred and some million dollars from the
city of Miami, and say we have to do it
because of Carollo so that they come out of
there with a hundred and some million dollars
and owning the city of Miami. And that's not
going to happen.
REPORTER
Earlier I interviewed Damian Pardo and, he
tells me that he believes that you should pay
that lawsuit and that he believes that the city
should not cover the costs of that lawsuit.
JOE CAROLLO
Of course, that is why he is running. But if he
wants so much transparency, the first thing he
must do is to show a month before, in his
personal bank account, where the 165
thousand and some dollars that he put, which
he says from his own pocket to his campaign
account, came from. That he should show
publicly. I show what they ask of me, and they
give my finances to these gentlemen. But Mr.
Pardo, who spent years kissing my hand,
saying that I was the greatest, asking me for
money for his parade on 8th Street, inviting
me to everything, from great to now Carollo is
bad.
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A proposito que to mencionan...
JOE CAROLLO
IDe donde vino los $165,000 dblares? Que
nos ensefie con las cuentas bancarias.
REPORTER
c.De proposito, del festival de Ia calle 8 de
gay 8 que pasb que no va a celebrarse este
aft?
JOE CAROLLO
LQuo pasb? Que eso es otra mentira mas de
estos individuos empezando por el senor
Pardo. Dicen que no se puede Ilevar porque
Ia ciudad de Miami no le dio dinero y le
dijeron al Miami Herald que Ia ciudad de
Miami daba entre 80 a 100 mil dblares
anuales que es una falsedad. El que le daba
el dinero cada ano que me venia a pedir era
Joe Carollo de la oficina MIA. El ano pasado
fue Ia primera vez que la ciudad de Miami dio
25 mil (Wares del presupuesto general y
como ellos no vinieron a pedir este ano fiscal
no se puso nada en el presupuesto, pero es
una falsedad que tuviera que cancelarlo
porque la ciudad de Miami le quito 80 a 100
mil (Wares. Todo eso fue otro juego de
campana para hacerse victima y poner la
ciudad de Miami como Ia ciudad mala que
todo lo que hace es malo.
REPORTER
,Como anticipa usted, ya tomando en cuenta
sus palabras, que va a ser esa comision, una
comision nueva con un balance de poder
diferente, digamos, de esa forma? LComo
anticipa usted que va a ser la relacion o su
dinamica con los nuevos comisionados?
JOE CAROLLO
El pasado mio que to lo has visto aqui por
anos, yo me Ilevo con cualquiera que quiera
Ilevarse, que quiera el bien de Ia ciudad de
miami, pero si estos senores vienen, como
estoy viendo ya, para acabar la ciudad de
REPORTER
By the way, now that you mention it...
JOE CAROLLO
Where did the $165,000 dollars come from?
Let him show us with the bank accounts.
REPORTER
By the way, the 8th street festival of gay 8
what happened that it's not going to be held
this year?
JOE CAROLLO
What happened? That is another lie of these
individuals starting with Mr. Pardo.
They said that it cannot be done because the
city of Miami did not give him any money and
they told the Miami Herald that the city of
Miami gave between 80 to 100 thousand
dollars a year, which is a lie. The one who
gave him the money every year that he came
to ask me was Joe Carollo from my office.
Last year was the first time that the City of
Miami gave $25,000 from the general budget
and since they did not come to ask this fiscal
year, nothing was put in the budget, but it is a
falsehood that he had to cancel it because
the City of Miami removed $80,000 to
$100,000. All that was another campaign
tactic to make himself a victim and put the
city of Miami as the bad city that everything it
does is bad.
REPORTER
How do you anticipate, already considering
your words, that this commission, a new
commission with a different balance of power,
let's say? How do you anticipate the
relationship or the dynamics with the new
commissioners?
JOE CAROLLO
In my past, which you have seen for years, I
get along with anyone who wants to get
along, who wants the good of the city of
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Miami para darle millones y millones de
Mares a estos descarados de barras para
destruir Ia ciudad de Miami, esto no va a
pasar. y yo no me voy a quedar callado, yo
no voy a bajar mi cabeza como ellos hacen y
ser un perrito, como el tercer perrito que me
lo voy a poner aqui a ninguno de estos
senores.
REPORTER
Comisionado Joe Carollo le agradezco
muchisimo su tiempo no me gusta utilizar
ofensas hacia otras personas que no estan
aca y en el programa ni que mis invitados
usen tambien calificativos ofensivos, pero le
agradezco mucho su tiempo que se haya
tomado el tiempo de venir hasta aca y la
confianza de estar aqui en el programa
JOE CAROLLO
Muchas gracias, Gloria, no creo que haya
usado nada ofensivo. He usado y dicho Ia
verdad, y vas a ver la verdad cuando venga
en la primera reunion de estos senores. Que
lo primero que van a querer es votar fuera el
administrador, votar fuera Ia abogada y
seguir en adelante y parar cualquier defensa
que la ciudad de Miami tenga legal contra
estos senores para que ellos se Ilenen los
bolsillos y no haya paliacion contra ellos.
REPORTER
Aqui en Telemundo 51 y en Encuentro Virtual
estaremos pendientes de todo lo que pasa en
la ciudad de Miami. Muchas gracias,
Comisionado,
JOE CAROLLO
Gracias. Te agradezco su tiempo.
Miami. But if these gentlemen come, as I am
already seeing, to destroy the city of Miami,
to give millions and millions of dollars to these
shameless bar owners, to destroy the city of
Miami, that is not going to happen, and I am
not going to keep quiet. I am not going to bow
my head like they do and be a little dog, like
the third little dog that I am going to put [on
my lap] to any of these gentlemen.
REPORTER
Commissioner Joe Carollo thank you very
much for your time. I don't like to use
offensive words towards other people who
are not here on the program. I don't like my
guests to use offensive words either. But I
thank you very much for your time, for taking
the time to come here and for the confidence
to be here on the program.
JOE CAROLLO
Thank you very much, Gloria, I don't think I
used anything offensive. I have used and
spoken the truth, and you're going to see the
truth when it comes at the first meeting from
these gentlemen. That the first thing they're
going to want to do is vote out the
administrator, vote out the attorney and go
ahead and stop any defense that the city of
Miami has legally against these gentlemen so
that they can line their pockets and there's no
mitigation against them.
REPORTER
Here on Telemundo 51 and Encuentro Virtual
we will be watching everything that happens
in the city of Miami. Thank you very much,
Commissioner.
JOE CAROLLO
Thank you. I appreciate your time.
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REPORTER: LCual es su opinion de que sus
colegas de la Comision y el ex jefe de la
Policia Colina ester' pidiendo renuncia?
CAROLLO: Pero mira, los tales colegas son
dos personas nuevas, que to que tienen que
empezar a mirar como Ilegaron ahi, para ver
si son ellos los que van a tener que
renunciar. Ahi tenemos el que mas este
gritando, el senor Pardo, que no quiere
explicar, no quiere ensenar las pruebas,
como el supuestamente puso 165 mil y pico
de dolares de su bolsillo para aspirar. Si el no
quiere enseriar las cuentas bancarias, que
ese dinero estaba ahi desde hace mucho
tiempo y que no solo pusieron diias antes,
semanas antes, que el puso 165 mil doblares
en la campafia de su cuenta privada,
entonces yo creo que el que debe renunciar
es el senor Pardo.
Del senor Colina, el ex jefe de la Policia, este
senor, ,por que no reporta los 400 mil
(Wares que se tuvo que pagar estos jueves
con el voto de estos comisionados que
quieren las renuncias del alcalde? 400 mil
(Wares que se tuvo que pagar a una official
alta de la policia por la demanda que le tenia
Colina por discriminacion racial. Ademas, si
Colina quiere dar de renuncia, quizas fuera
que debio haber renunciado cuando fue el ex
jefe de la Policia, no por las razones que lo
hizo, sino por investigar ilegalmente oficiales
selectos de la ciudad de Miami por politica.
Pero como es el jefe Hollywood, favorito del
Miami Herald y del izquierdista descarado
Acevedo, entonces esos temas no los tocan.
Lo que quieren tocar son los temas para ver
comp destruyen la ciudad de Miami, porque
lo que hay aqui en todo esto es una campana
para que los unicos hispanos que puedan
salir electos en Ia ciudad de Miami sean
hispanos de Ia extrema izquierda.
REPORTER: What is your opinion that your
colleagues on the Commission and the
former Chief of Police Colina are asking for
[Mayor Suarez's] resignation?
CAROLLO: Look, these colleagues are two
new people, and what people have to start
looking at is how they got there, to see if they
are the ones who are going to have to resign.
There we have the one who is shouting the
loudest, Mr. Pardo, who does not want to
explain, does not want to show the evidence,
how he supposedly put 165 thousand and
some dollars out of his pocket to run for
office. If he does not want to show the bank
accounts, that this money was there for a
long time and that not only days before,
weeks before, that he put 165 thousand
doubloons in the campaign from his private
account, then I believe that Mr. Pardo is the
one who should resign.
Mr. Colina, the former Chief of Police, this
gentleman, why does he not report about the
400 thousand dollars that had to be paid on
Thursday with the vote of these
commissioners who want the mayor's
resignations? 400 thousand dollars that had
to be paid to a senior police officer for the
lawsuit against Colina for racial
discrimination. Also, if Colina wants [Mayor
Suarez] to resign, maybe he should have
resigned when he was the former police
chief, not for the reasons he did, but for
illegally investigating select Miami city officials
for political misconduct.
But since he is Chief Hollywood, a favorite of
the Miami Herald and the unabashed leftist
Acevedo, then those issues they don't touch.
What they want to talk about are the issues to
see how they destroy the city of Miami,
because what is here in all of this is a
campaign so that the only Hispanics who can
get elected in the city of Miami will be
Hispanics of the extreme left.
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Por eso estan con el cuento de los distritos
que Ilevan aqui. Pero que hablen de reportes
hace dos dfas de la agrupacion de toda Ia
agencia, de inteligencia y de Estados Unidos,
en donde senalan que no solo Cuba, el ano
pasado trato de meterse en las maquinas de
elecciones nuestras. Pero que Cuba Ilevaba
una campana usando los aliados de los
medios locales y elementos de las paginas
sociales para que desfamen, ataquen,
mienten, traten de destruir los que le
hacemos dano a ellos y to ven ellos.
That's why they're talking about the districts
they're running here. But let them talk about
reports two days ago from a group of US
intelligence agencies, where they point out
that not only did Cuba, last year try to get into
our election machines. But that Cuba had a
campaign against us using the allies of the
local media and social pages to defame,
attack, lie, try to destroy those of us who do
harm to them and they see it.
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Carollo contraataca contras quienes quieren
acabar con la Ciudad de Miami
REPORTER
Bueno, cuando anunciamos que el
comisionado Joe Carollo iba a estar con
nosotros aqui en el programa, pues
muchfsimas personas se me han acercado,
el tema sin duda despierta sumo interes,
comisionado por el distrito tres, distrito tres
de la ciudad de Miami, exalcalde. Muchas
gracias por estar aqui con nosotros.
JOE CAROLLO
Al contrario, Juan Manuel, gracias por esta
invitacion en una ciudad que cada dia se
pone mas y mas dificil que le den a uno Ia
oportunidad de hablar incluso a la proxima
reunion. Dos de los nuevos comisionados
que han Ilegado a nuestro Consejo Municipal
estan pidiendo mociones para discutir muy
interesantes. Una de ellas, hasta quieren
limitar el tiempo que tenga un comisionado
para discutir. 0 sea que tienen controlado Ia
mayorfa de los medios que uno no pueda
hablar y tambien quieren controlar lo que uno
puede decir en Ia comision de Miami. zQue
es el lugar? Los consejos municipales no se
tienen que discutir las cosas entre lo que son
Carollo strikes back against those who want
to end the City of Miami
REPORTER
Well, when we announced that Commissioner
Joe Carollo was going to be with us here on
the program, well, a lot of people have
approached me, the subject certainly arouses
a lot of interest, commissioner for district
three, district three of the city of Miami,
former mayor. Thank you very much for being
here with us.
JOE CAROLLO
On the contrary, Juan Manuel, thank you for
this invitation in a city that is getting more and
more difficult every day to be given the
opportunity to speak, even at the next
meeting. Two of the new commissioners that
have come to our City Commission are
asking for very interesting motions to discuss.
One of them even wants to limit the amount
of time a commissioner has to speak. In other
words, they have controlled most of the
media so that you can't speak, and they also
want to control what you can say in the Miami
City Commission. Which is the place, city
commissions, to discuss things among those
who are elected, to make decisions.
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electos para tomar decisiones. Interesante
que el quiere limitar el tiempo, nada mas,
nada menos, que el senor pardo, el senor
que nos quiere ensenar que el tenia 165 mil y
pico de dolares que dice que lo puse de su
bolsillo en su campana recien. Si yo lo puse
de mi bolsillo y alguien esta preguntando de
donde vino, yo enseno los papeles que
estaba ahi por meses y meses atras. Senor
pardo esta sordo, no quiere hacer nada, pero
sin embargo, cuando presente una mocion
que se aprob6 3 a 2, pardo y Gabela votando
en contra, una mocion hablando de lo que
dice que venian all( a hacer transparencia,
anticorrupcion, una mocion que va a exigir
que de aqui en adelante los que aspiran, los
candidatos tienen que ensenar si ponen
dinero de su bolsillo en una campafia, tienen
que ensenar de donde vino, tienen que
ensenar las pruebas que estaban en su
cuenta bancaria de hace tiempo, no que se lo
pusieron 2 0 3 dias antes o una semana
antes. Si obtuvieron un prestamo, tienen que
ensenar que vino de un prestamo.
REPORTER
Porque ahora no tienen que ensefiarlo.
JOE CAROLLO
No, entonces el senor que ha pedido
transparencia se habla de transparencia y de
anticorrupcion, voto en contra de ese igual
que el senor Gabela. No creo que eso
coordina. Pero lo mas importante que quieren
traer a discutir el jueves que viene y esto,
todo residente de Miami debe estar
mirandolo porque le va a afectar a ustedes es
el que le va para arriba y le viene para arriba
esto. Quieren discutir para negociar con los
aliados de ellos de Ia extrema izquierda y
Ilegar a un acuerdo con ellos como se van a
quedar los distritos para el futuro de Miami. 0
sea que hay que estar de acuerdo que Ia
ciudad de Miami termine con una super
mayoria de distritos que van a ser
ideologicos escogidos para que nada mas
que personas de la extrema izquierda tengan
la mejor oportunidad de ganar.
REPORTER
the time, is nothing more, nothing less, than
Mr. Pardo, the man who doesn't want to show
us that he had 165 thousand and some
dollars, that he says came out of his pocket in
his recent campaign. If I put money from my
pocket and someone is asking where it came
from, I show the papers that were there from
months and months ago. Mr. Pardo you are
deaf, you don't want to do anything, but
nevertheless, when I presented a motion that
was approved 3 to 2, Pardo and Gabela
voting against, a motion talking about what
you say you came there to do: transparency,
anti -corruption, a motion that is going to
demand that from now on those who run for
office, the candidates, have to show if they
put money from their pocket in a campaign,
they have to show where it came from, they
have to show the proof that it was in their
bank account from some time ago, not that
they put it 2 or 3 days before or a week
before. If they got a loan, they must show that
it came from a loan.
REPORTER
Because now, they don't have to show it?
JOE CAROLLO
No, then the gentleman who has asked for
transparency, is talking about transparency
and anti -corruption, he voted against that one
just like Mr. Gabela. I don't think that makes
sense. But the most important thing they want
to bring to discuss next Thursday and this,
every resident of Miami should be looking at
because it is going to affect you, is the one
that is coming up. They want to discuss
negotiating with their allies on the extreme left
and reach an agreement with them on how
the districts are going to look for the future of
Miami. In other words, we have to agree that
the city of Miami will end up with a super
majority of districts that will be ideologically
selected so that only people on the extreme
left will have the best chance of winning.
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quo. Esta muy equivocado si creen que me
van a destruir a mi, que me van a callar a mi
y la apelacion va de todas maneras y la van a
perder. Y cualquier mueble que me saquen,
cualquier ropa que me quiten, me la van a
tener que pagar bien despuos.
REPORTER
Bueno, yo para el proximo programa la
pregunta que dejo sobre la mesa es LCc mo
se puede vivir con tanto Frente abierto a la
vez? i Es tremendo!
JOE CAROLLO
Con Dios a to lado, Juan Manuel. Por eso no
pueden conmigo porque Dios es el que me
cuida a mi y por eso van a perder. Quiza
tengan sus victorias diarias con los peones
que tienen en la prensa amarilla, pero al final
to veran...
know what? They are very wrong if they think
they are going to destroy me, that they are
going to shut me up and the appeal is
happening anyway and they are going to
lose. And whatever furniture they take from
me, whatever clothes they take from me,
they're going to have to pay me back later.
REPORTER
Well, for the next program, the question I'll
leave on the table is, how can you live with so
many open fronts at the same time? It's
tremendous!
JOE CAROLLO
With God by your side, Juan Manuel. That's
why they cannot handle me. Because God is
the one who takes care of me and that's why
they are going to lose. Maybe they will have
their daily victories with the pawns they have
in the yellow press but in the end, they will
see....
Date: 1/19/2024
Publication: Diario Las Americas
Li n k: https:/lwww.diariolasamericas.com/flo rida/como-encara-una-nueva-demanda-el-com
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4Como encara una nueva demanda el
comisionado Joe Carollo?
El comisionado de Miami Joe Carollo
responde a una demanda para removerlo del
organo legislativo y cuestiona a sus colegas
Damian Pardo y Miguel Angel Gabela
MIAMI- Una nueva demanda que tiene como
proposito la eventual destitucion del
comisionado Joe Carollo, se convirtio en otro
capitulo del conflicto legal que involucra al
legislador municipal y a los empresarios Bill
Fuller y Martin Pinilla.
A solo dias de que se ordenara la
confiscacion de bienes personales de
Carollo, los propietarios del centro nocturno
Ball and Chain, Fuller y Pinilla, interpusieron
una nueva accion legal para tratar de
removerlo de la silla del distrito 3.
How does Commissioner Joe Carollo face
a new lawsuit?
Miami Commissioner Joe Carollo responds to
a lawsuit to remove him from the legislative
body and questions his colleagues Damian
Pardo and Miguel Angel Gabela.
MIAMI- A new lawsuit aimed at the eventual
removal of Commissioner Joe Carollo has
become another chapter in the legal conflict
involving the municipal legislator and
businessmen Bill Fuller and Martin Pinilla.
Just days after Carollo's personal assets
were ordered forfeited, the owners of the Ball
and Chain nightclub, Fuller and Pinilla, filed a
new legal action to try to remove him from the
District 3 seat.
"The City of Miami's Charter begins with a
Citizens' Bill of Rights. Any public official or
Submitted into the public
record or it (s)
on City Clerk
"La Carta [constitutive] de la Ciudad de Miami
comienza con una Declaracion de Derechos
de los Ciudadanos. Cualquier funcionario
public() o empleado que el tribunal determine
que ha violado intencionalmente esta seccion
perdera inmediatamente su cargo o empleo",
se lee en la demanda.
Fuller y Pinilla ganaron previamente una
demanda civil contra el comisionado y
exalcalde de Miami, a quien un tribunal
ordeno pagar 63.5 millones de dolares por
dafios y perjuicios. Dias mas tarde, el salario
del legislador fue embargado y se inicio un
procedimiento para confiscar algunos de sus
bienes.
Los empresarios afirman que Carollo
supuestamente emprendio "venganza
personal contra ellos" despues de que
apoyaran a su rival Alfonso 'Alfie' Leon, en
las elecciones municipales de 2018.
En medio de la nueva polemica, el
comisionado Carollo converso con DIARIO
LAS AMERICAS y aseguro que el caso debe
ser desestimado por la corte porque, a su
juicio, el proceso que lo origino todavfa este
pendiente de una apelacion. Entretanto, el
titular del escafio en la Comision de Miami
asocio las pretensiones legales de los
demandantes con la Ilegada al organo
legislativo municipal de sus dos nuevos
miembros, Damian Pardo y Miguel Angel
Gabela, de quienes cuestiono ciertos
procedimientos para financier sus campagas
y supuestas acciones relacionadas con la
figura del abogado del ayuntamiento de
Miami.
En lo que respecta a Gabela, Carollo
menciono un presunto "caso sellado" de
arresto policiaco "pars que no se vea que fue
to que paso" y un prestamo a un banco que
no habrfa rembolsado, edemas de supuestas
gestiones en la Comision para nombrar a un
nuevo abogado del ayuntamiento de Miami,
que luego entraria "a conciliar demandas
employee found by the court to have willfully
violated this section shall immediately forfeit
his or her office or employment," the lawsuit
reads.
Fuller and Pinilla previously won a civil
lawsuit against the Miami commissioner and
former mayor, who was ordered by a court to
pay $63.5 million in damages. Days later, the
legislator's salary was garnished and
proceedings were initiated to seize some of
his assets.
The businessmen claim that Carollo allegedly
undertook "personal revenge against them"
after they supported his rival Alfonso 'Alfie'
Leon, in the 2018 municipal elections.
In the midst of the new controversy,
Commissioner Carollo talked to DIARIO LAS
AMERICAS and assured that the case should
be dismissed by the court because, in his
opinion, the process that originated it is still
pending an appeal. Meanwhile, the holder of
the seat in the Miami Commission associated
the legal claims of the plaintiffs with the arrival
to the municipal legislative body of its two
new members, Damian Pardo and Miguel
Angel Gabela, of whom he questioned certain
procedures to finance their campaigns and
alleged actions related to the figure of the
attorney of the Miami City Council.
Regarding Gabela, Carollo mentioned an
alleged "sealed case" of police arrest "so that
it would not be seen what happened" and a
loan to a bank that he had not reimbursed, in
addition to alleged actions in the Commission
to appoint a new attorney for the Miami City
Council, who would then enter "to reconcile
economic demands,", according to what he
said, with the businessmen who took him to
court.
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lord for ite (s) -3
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no podemos apelar hasta que el no lo
determine. Si sabemos que va a it en contra
de mi, por que entonces tanto lio para hacer
un fallo, en vez de tenerme a mi en violacion
de mis derechos de poder apelar. Estos
senores lo que quieren es tratar de usar
mucho de la prensa que los este protegiendo
para tener un ataque constante. Pero la
verdad es que el blanco del ataque principal
no soy yo, son los residentes y los
empleados de la Ciudad de Miami, porque
esos son a los que ellos quieren meterles
maximo miedo cayendome arriba.
Usted senala a un sector de la prensa
local que estaria apoyando a esas
personas, pero hay normas y personas
dentro de la Ciudad de Miami como
gobierno y en la Comision que estan alli
para hacer cumplirlas. I,Que piensa de
eso?
Ellos [empresarios demandantes] han traido
dos miembros nuevos a la Comisibn, que los
han apoyado totalmente para que hagan lo
que ellos quieran. Y como lo dije aim antes
de las elecciones, si estos senores Ilegan [a
la Comision], van a querer acabar con la
Ciudad, y es precisamente a donde van,
porque entre las demandas que tienen estos
senores duenos de barras y antiguos duenos
de camiones de basura estan pidiendo a la
Ciudad, entre todas sus demandas, mucho
mas de 100 millones de dblares, creo que
hasta 125 millones de Mares o mas. Lo que
quieren es que cuando se venza el nuevo
contrato de la abogada de la Ciudad en cinco
meses, con el abogado nuevo que pongan
que diga que hay Ilegar a un acuerdo con
esta gente, que hay que pagarle equis
cantidad de millones y eso es lo que este
pasando aqui, y estan contando con eso. 0
sea que, a los que le van arriba de verdad, es
a los residentes de Miami para saquear el
dinero de los residentes, para que nadie se
atreva a quejarse de nada, que ellos puedan
hacer lo que quieran y que ningun empleado
de la Ciudad de Miami se atreva a hacer su
trabajo, y que ellos sean los unicos que
puedan hacer lo que quieran en Miami.
these gentlemen want is to try to use a lot of
the press that is protecting them to have a
constant attack. But the truth is that the main
target of the attack is not me, it is the
residents and employees of the City of Miami,
because those are the ones they want to put
the most fear into by falling down on me.
You point to a sector of the local press
that would be supporting these people,
but there are rules and people within the
City of Miami as a government and on the
Commission who are there to enforce
them. What do you think about that?
They [plaintiff businessmen] have brought two
new members to the Commission, who have
fully supported them to do what they want.
And as I said even before the election, if
these gentlemen get [on the Commission],
they're going to want to take down the City,
and that's precisely where they're going,
because between the demands that these
gentlemen bar owners and former garbage
truck owners have, they're asking the City,
between all their demands, for well over $100
million, I think as much as $125 million or
more. What they want is that when the new
contract of the City's attorney expires in five
months, with the new attorney that they put in
place that says that they have to reach an
agreement with these people, that they have
to be paid a certain amount of millions and
that is what is happening here, and they are
counting on that. In other words, the ones
they are really targeting are the residents of
Miami to loot th ..nagnexsafitm residents. so
that nobody dares to complain about
anything, so that they can do whatever they
want and that no employee of the City of
Miami dares to do their job, and that they are
the only ones who can do whatever they want
in Miami.
Who are these people that, according to
Submitted into the public
record or item(s) - .)
on 3 f` `I City Clerk
,Quienes son esas personas que, segun
usted senala, han Ilevado estos
empresarios a la Comision de Miami para
hacer esas gestiones que usted esta
comentando?
Son los dos comisionados nuevos. El sefio
[Damian] Pardo, que todavia no quiere
contestar ni ensenar las pruebas de d()nde
salieron los 165.000 y pico de d()lares, que
dice que puso de su bolsillo en la campana
r
El otro es el 'guapito de solar', el senor
[Miguel Angel] Gabela, que incluso cuando
me quiso interrumpir para que yo no hablara
despues de que tuve que oir todo lo que
quiso decir, me interrumpi() y no fue
suficiente, y vino a tratar de golpearme, si es
que no lo para un policia de la Ciudad de
Miami que estaba ahi. Este es un senor que
tiene un archivo policiaco sellado de un
arresto. Imaginese que Carollo tuviera un
arresto policiaco sellado que nadie supiera
de que fuera. Pero este senor lo puede tener
y nadie dice nada.
,Cual es ese caso, comisionado?
Este es un caso que este senor tuvo en su
pasado, que yo no se de que es. He oido
rumores de que ha sido de violencia, pero yo
no se, to que si se es que fue arrestado y
tiene el caso sellado para que no se vea que
fue lo que pas(). Si fuera yo, la prensa
estuviera demandando que se ensenara. Al
mismo tiempo, este senor Gabela, que dice
que dio 28.000 y pico de Mares de su
bolsillo para su campana, en noviembre 1 ro.
una corte fall() que le debia 58.000 y pico de
Mares al TD Bank porque de uno de los
prestamos que el adquiri() y su compania
durante el COVID, por 50.000 Mares, no
habia 'pagado para atras' [rembolsar] ni un
centavo.
,Hacia donde debe apuntar el nuevo
proceso en su contra? Usted dice que
todavia no ha sido notificado. ,Piensa
apelar una vez lo notifiquen?
Aqui no hay que apelar. Simplemente
presentar a la corte, que aqui no hay caso
ninguno y cualquier juez entiende que hay
que pasar un proceso que no esta terminado,
you, brought by these businessmen to the
Miami Commission to make these
arrangements that you are talking about?
They are the two new commissioners. Mr.
[Damian] Pardo, who still does not want to
answer or show the evidence of where the
165,000 and some dollars came from, which
he says he put in his pocket in the campaign.
The other one is the 'solar guapito', Mr.
[Miguel Angel] Gabela, who even when he
wanted to interrupt me so that I would not
speak after I had to hear everything he
wanted to say, he interrupted me and it was
not enough, and he came to try to hit me, if
he was not stopped by a policeman from the
City of Miami who was there. This is a
gentleman who has a sealed police file of an
arrest. Imagine if Carollo had a sealed police
arrest that no one knew what it was about.
But this gentleman can have it and nobody
says anything.
What is that case, Commissioner?
This is a case that this gentleman had in his
past, which I don't know what it is. I have
heard rumors that it was violence, but I do not
know, what I do know is that he was arrested
and his case is sealed so that we do not see
what happened. If it were me, the press
would be demanding that it be shown. At the
same time, this Mr. Gabela, who says he
gave $28,000-odd dollars out of pocket for his
campaign, on November 1st a court ruled that
he owed $58,000-odd dollars to TD Bank
because of one of the loans he and his
company acquired during COVID, for
$50,000, he had not 'paid back' [reimbursed]
a penny.
Where should the new process against
you point to? You say you have not yet
been notified. Do you intend to appeal
once you are notified?
There is no appeal here. Simply present to
the court, that there is no case here and any
judge understands that there is a process to
go through that is not finished, and that I have
the right to appeal [in the process pending in
Broward]. There is no doubt that I feel