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Meeting Minutes
Friday, January 31, 2020
10:00 AM
Special Meeting
City Hall
City Commission
Francis X. Suarez, Mayor
Keon Hardemon, Chair, District Five
Ken Russell, Vice Chair, District Two
Alex Diaz de la Portilla, Commissioner, District One
Joe Carollo, Commissioner, District Three
Manolo Reyes, Commissioner, District Four
Emilio T. Gonzalez, City Manager
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes January 31, 2020
10:00 AM INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Chair Hardemon, Vice Chair Russell, Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla,
Commissioner Carollo and Commissioner Reyes.
On the 31st day of January 2020, the City Commission of the City of Miami, Florida, met at
its regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in special
session. The Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Hardemon at 10:20 a.m.,
and adjourned at 2:32 p.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Joseph Napoli, Deputy City Manager
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
Chair Hardemon: Welcome to the January 31, 2020, special meeting of the Miami City
Commission. The commission are Alex Diaz de la Portilla, Joe Carollo, Manolo Reyes, Ken
Russell, the Vice Chairman, and myself, Keon Hardemon, the Chairman. Also on the dais are
Emilio T. Gonzalez,, our City Manager, Victoria Mendez, the City Attorney, and Todd Hannon,
our City Clerk.
Commissioner Carollo: If1 could make a correction.
Chair Hardemon: We don't see him on the dais, but that is what the -- that is what, yeah, at
least what the government represents as our City Manager is Emilio T. Gonzalez. The special
meeting will be opened with a prayer by Commissioner Reyes, and the Pledge of Allegiance
will be led by Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla. All rise, please.
Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance delivered.
ORDER OF THE DAY
Chair Hardemon: We will now begin the special meeting. The City Attorney will state the
procedures to be followed during this meeting.
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): Thank you, Chairman. Any person who is a lobbyist pursuant
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been briefed by City staff and the City Attorney on items on the agenda today. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, Madam City Attorney. Gentlemen, as we know this is a
discussion item regarding the Affordable Housing Master Plan, and so I thought that what we
should do is at least hear from the drafters of that plan. I believe they have a short presentation
they would like to make to us, and then from there we can lead the discussion. There is not
necessarily -- there is not a requirement for public comment. However, if there is a time in
which we are decision -- making decisions or you want to hear from the public themselves, we
can make that decision to do that as well.
SPECIAL MEETING ITEM(S)
SP.1 DISCUSSION ITEM
7131
Commissioners
and Mayor
A DISCUSSION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION FOR THE
PURPOSES OF TAKING ANY AND ALL ACTIONS RELATED TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING MASTER PLAN
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE ADOPTION OF ANY
RESOLUTIONS FROM SAID DISCUSSION.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
Chair Hardemon: So, with that being said, I want to move and acknowledge FIU
(Florida International University), for the presentation that they have for us today. Is
anyone from Florida International University here?
Ned Murray: Good morning. My name is Ned Murray. I'm the Associate Director of
the George M. Perez Metropolitan Center at Fill. I'm with my colleagues today,
Kevin Greiner and Nika Landgren (phonetic). Kevin will also be addressing you as
well. We do have a fairly compact presentation. Many of you have seen much of it
before, along with your staffs, over the past year. So we've streamlined it a bit and
focused in a little bit since the last meeting to help answer some of the questions and
provide some further clarification. I first, though, would like to just provide some
perspective on the importance and the magnitude of this particular plan. Eighteen
years ago, the City of Miami entrusted us, the Metropolitan Center, to take on a major
study. The study was called the Florida East Coast Railway Strategic Plan. Many of
you probably remember it. At the time, the railway corridor, including the
neighborhoods around it, Wynwood, Little Haiti, Edgewater, the whole Biscayne
corridor, in fact, were languishing. Wynwood was just a bunch of boarded up factory
and warehouse buildings. We had 56 acres of land sitting just south of the design
district, which also wasn't doing very well at the time. It had gone through a
downturn. 56 acres of railroad cars, a staging facility, and a lot of dirt. But you
entrusted us to do something bold, and back then there was nine of you. And you
entrusted us to come up with something that was innovative and that could stimulate
economic development reinvestment along this area that had lost 18,000 jobs over the
previous two decades. That plan, of course, ended up with Midtown, the development
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of Midtown, and the revitalization of Wynwood. This all occurred before Tony
Goldman even got involved, but he was a smart guy. He saw that Art Basel had come
to Miami and he had this $1.1 billion investment in Midtown going forward, the
largest urban infill project in the country. It was a congratulations. So I came before
you 17 years ago, one year after that plan started, and we had a similar audience,
actually even a bigger audience, people standing out there, all from the
neighborhoods of Wynwood, Little Haiti, Edgewater, Overtown, all here because it
was their plan. It was their plan and the commissioners who were involved,
particularly the district commissioners at the time, felt it was their plan and we must
have gone through dozens upon dozens of community workshops and meetings to
make sure that it was the community's plan but also represented the interest and what
the commissioners felt was important to them in advancing the economies of these
neighborhoods. So here we are, 17 years later, and people have asked me, how would
you rate this plan relative to that landmark plan of 17 years ago? In many ways, it's
more important. It's of the same magnitude, certainly, in terms of its development
potential, but in other ways, it's more important because back then we weren't
salvaging or trying to preserve neighborhoods, we were trying to revitalize
neighborhoods. We were trying to bring back economic investment. We are now
dealing with what this plan is all about, the soul of Miami, and the soul of Miami that
we've made very clear are its people, its culture, and its neighborhoods. That's what
we're here fin-. That's what this plan represents. It's more than just an affordable
housing master plan. Its a plan for the future of Miami and to preserve and protect.,
but also provide economic opportunities and wealth building opportunities for our
residents. And that's the critical element that some folks maybe don't understand when
you're doing an affordable housing master plan is the economic development aspect
of this and the wealth building aspect of this, which is critically important to the
success of the plan itself. So with that, I'm going to provide a few slides that gets into
the planning process, an overview of some of the key data points that we've already
talked about, but I want to highlight again. And then I want to share with you, I think
some of you have already seen it, we put together a two -and -a -half -minute video that
was presented at the open houses and workshops. I think some of the commissioners
have seen it as well. Two and a half minutes, it's really a wonderful and compelling
video that I think will even further advance the plan as we begin to promote it, not just
in terms of the city, but what you are doing today, hopefully, is something that's truly
landmark and will put Miami ahead of every major city in this country. You'll be the
first to do a affordable housing master plan that's as comprehensive and innovative as
this one is. There's nothing else like it. So with that, a little bit about the planning
process itself. You've asked us, as I said, to prepare this plan, to engage the
community, many of whom have attended the open houses and the district workshops
over the past year, many who are represented today, neighborhood residents,
stakeholders, developers, builders, lenders, we've had focus groups throughout the
city as well. They're all represented in this plan. It's their plan and it's the city's plan.
We're only here as your technical advisors basically. So it was that one-year planning
process. It's actually been probably over a year right now. But the primary goal was
really important because we realized that when you're talking about affordable
housing, you're really talking about housing in general, housing for everybody who
lives and would want to live in this city. So, when we talk about a spectrum, a
spectrum of choice, opportunity, and quality of affordable housing and rental
housing, it's for the residents, but hopefully for those who want to come here, work
here in our city in the future. It's a 10-year plan, but what we're doing is providing the
institutional infrastructure with this plan to make this truly sustainable and resilient
for years and years to come, well beyond the 10-year timeline of the plan itself. So,
with that, the primary objective of the plan is to keep Miami residents in their homes.
This wasn't an original thought when we began the plan, this came from you, in
particular Commissioner Reyes, which I had met -- which we had met earlier on, and
really made it clear to us what was really going on with your constituents, how
distressed many of them are, both renters and owners. So we knew at that point that's
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our number one priority. We need to keep people in their homes, and then to provide
opportunities not only for them, but for their children and grandchildren to stay in our
great neighborhoods here in the city and be able to build wealth through home
ownership. A real important aspect of the plan itself. The plan itself which we're
going to go over in outline form, I'm going to let Kevin do that in a minute, has five
major elements. And we're going to go through those. And we've talked about those at
the last meeting. But we'll get a little bit more specific today, particularly some of the
details in terms of the opportunities that are in the plan for home ownership. But
today, all we're really asking, and the city is asking you, is to accept the plan as you
did 18 years ago. The FEC (Florida East Coast) Corridor Study was presented to you
and with a series of resolutions for you to send it back to the City Manager and to
direct his departments to implement it. That plan was implemented within six months.
Midtown Miami, a $1.1 billion investment, happened within six months of this meeting
that took place 18 months ago -- 18 years ago. Because we had really clear direction
from you to the City Administration, we had a real idea of what needed to be done,
there was a big financing aspect of this, if you remember, we had to create a CRA
(Community Redevelopment Agency), we had to create a community development
district. We had to change the zoning and we needed to get the zoning in quickly
because there was concern about what Miami 21 might bring. You don't want that
uncertainty when you're putting together a massive plan like this. There was a lot of
pieces that had to fall into place. So same thing today. If we can direct the City to
begin to work on some of these details, we'll be able to move very quickly. And we're
here to help you with that as well. We don't go away. We're FIU. We're here to help
you even on an in -kind basis. So we're asking you to authorize the City Manager and
his professional staff to do that work and we're certainly going to be here to help you
with that. Before I go further though, I do want to share this two -and -a -half -minute
video that all your constituents have seen. Most of the folks that are here have seen. It
really is compelling. And when we create the website for the plan, we already had a
website during the process, but we're going to recreate a website domain where your
residents, the city, the country, will be able to lock into this and be able to see what
you've accomplished. Two and a half minutes.
Audiovisual presentation made.
Mr. Murray: Thank you. That video, as I said, will be on the City's website for
everybody to see, along with all the presentations and all the information. So, we start
with the problem. !just wanted to highlight a couple of data points before we get into
the five elements, and these reinforce what the video was all about. When you do an
affordable housing master plan as an economic development plan, you have to
remember, we come from economic development backgrounds. We are not housing
advocates per se. What we do is economic development, as we did with the FEC
Corridor study, the targeted industry study we did a few years ago. This is really our
forte. But if you understand economic development, you also understand you have to
have a workforce and you have to have housing that accommodates them. So when we
do an affordable housing master plan, the first thing we do is to do a needs
assessment, which is really an economic development study to look at the supply and
demand factors that are impacting Miami's affordable housing issues. Number one is
we all know this, we're predominantly a low -- low-income occupation and earnings
community, not just us, but South Florida in general, Florida in general. We have
high income disparity, we are the tale of two cities as you know, a lot of wealth and a
lot of obviously, economic distress, rapidly rising home values and so much of this is
being impacted of course by foreign investment. I think we are recognized here today
and I think it's becoming more and more obvious we're a global city. We are truly a
global city and we have to look at the market and the real estate market in particular
as a global city for investment. And we have been that way for some years now, and
we will continue to be that way. So the question is, what does that mean. for our
residents? What does that mean, for your constituents going. forward as land values
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and construction costs and all these things continue to rise? So, that's really the
emphasis of this, is going back to the original point, how do we keep our residents in
their homes? How do we preserve our neighborhoods? Little Havana, Allapattah,
Little Haiti, Coconut Grove, I mean, if they go away, if we lose them, what's then?
We've become just this one big Brickell of a downtown location, which is slowly
happening. But all the great cities, as you know, Boston, New York, Chicago, they all
have, what makes a great city in their regard is the fact that they all have great
districts and neighborhoods that make them great. And we are the same. We have
those districts. We have those neighborhoods. But they're under threat. They are
seriously under threat because no other city in the country has experienced the level
offoreign investment that we are, we are truly a global city. So obviously with that,
the fact that we are a basically a low -wage economy, that is obviously impacting the
ability of a lot of our residents to be able to pay those rents or to be able to afford
those kind of mortgages. So, obviously, we need to be able to address that as part of
the plan itself That's why this is as much an economic development plan as it is an
affordable housing master plan. We don't have a lot of land, but we do have
redevelopment capacity, and we're going to get into that a little bit more because we
think there are some real opportunities there, particularly on the commercial
corridors. And then this issue of appreciation, it's happening so rapidly since the
recovery about 2012 or so. We're seeing that year over year these rent and home
price increases, that we're losing -- we're losing upwards of almost 1,300 units a year
just through appreciation, just through market appreciation. So, it's not just the fact
that we need to put forward a plan to build and preserve 32,000 units to address our
need over the next 10 years. We're kind of running in -- on a treadmill truing to keep
pace because we're losing almost 1,300 units a year through market appreciation,
which by the way is just going to continue. We're not going to have that kind of
downturn we had 12, 13 years ago. There may be a downturn, but not in terms of
values, not in terms of rents. So with that, I want to turn it over to Kevin Grinder, my
colleague. He's going to get into the specifics of the plan itself the five elements of the
plan, and also talk a little bit more about why it matters, particularly from this
economic development perspective, because that is so critical to wealth building and
making sure that our residents, our citizens, can stay in their homes and create wealth
for both them and their future generations. So with that, Kevin, thank you.
Kevin Grinder: Morning Commissioners, Mayor Suarez, Kevin Grinder, Senior
Fellow at the George M. Perez Metropolitan Center. I'm going to take about 10
minutes to go through the broad strokes of the plan. I do want to elaborate on why
investing in affordable housing really does matter, and three major points. The first is
that it's an investment that pays back almost instantaneously to the city. When families
pay less of their income, when they pay a more reasonable portion of their income,
closer to 30 percent of their income on housing costs, that frees up millions of dollars
a year that goes back into the local economy. So, by investing in affordable housing,
you're not just doing, not only just doing the right thing, it's supporting your
workforce, but supporting families, you're putting money directly back into the city's
economy every single year. It's a payback you see almost instantaneously as soon as
you start reducing the percentage of cost on housing. The second point is that the
downside is, if we fail to invest in affordable housing, this is a cost that can't be
escaped. Can't run, can't hide, but you've got to invest now or pay a bigger price
later. By not investing in affordable housing, you're forcing residents to move out of
the city, seeking lower costs elsewhere, but they're still commuting back in because
they still work in the city. The city is the major employment zone of the entire county.
So, we're actually increasing transportation costs, and that bill is going to come due.
Medical costs, when -- especially low-income families are spending too much on
housing, public medical costs go up. Public health -- public health outcomes drop.
Educational outcomes drop. Your labor force doesn't improve as quickly because
people can't spend as much on education. So, there are real costs you can't escape.
Investing right now in affordable housing actually saves you money in the long term
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because you're not having to do those costs later. The third is that in Miami, which in
my humble opinion, I'm a student of cities around the world, I've lived in cities around
the world, Miami is one of -- well, the most interesting city in North America, one of
the most interesting cities in the world just because it is so diverse. It has such
dynamism, such energy, and it's driven by the cultural fabric of its neighborhoods.
What we're really fighting for here, this is a fight for the soul of Miami. Those
neighborhoods are under assault. Little Havana, Little Haiti, those neighborhoods are
being gentrified rapidly. Imagine a situation where we've gentrified a big chunk of the
city. We don't have those neighborhoods anymore. What is Miami at that point? Is it
Miami anymore? I don't think so. So, this is a real fight for what makes Miami --
keeping Miami what makes Miami. And that's a real value there. I'm going to go
quickly through the broad strokes of the plan. It is a bold plan. We're actually
suggesting a recommendation based on population increase as expected increase over
the next 10 years if we continue to lose units to appreciation. We're recommending
raising the percentage from right now it's about 19 percent of the total market that's
affordable to families earning 80 percent of the city's median income. We're moving
that needle from about 19 percent of the total market to 25 percent, which makes
Miami look more like the rest of the country in terms of total percentage. But to do
that, if price appreciation continues, number of units, those 1,200 units continue to be
lost and population increases as expected, that's about 32,000 units. Now, we're not
talking new units, but that's either acquired, rehabbed, and some new units, but in
total combination, about 32,000 units to move that percentage up to about 25 percent.
That equals about a $4 to $6 billion total investment in our estimate. To get there,
we've recommended a plan that has the scale to deliver those units. That is
unprecedented, both in Miami's history and the rest of the country. Speed, flexibility,
and doing it with as much intelligence as possible so we're spending money, we're
investing money as wisely as possible. We're also leveraging the city's money. It's
largely a privately funded plan that we've recommended. The key strategies that are
going to make this work, the opportunity to preserve existing affordable housing is the
low -hanging fruit. And I'll show you the actual numbers on that. That's your real
opening, quick and very affordable opportunity. That's also a way you start stemming
that 1,200 unit a year loss. You've got to eat into the number of units that are that are
being taken off the market through price appreciation. Preserving is affording
through acquisition as well as loans. Simple, tinge -tested, proven, and one of the more
interesting findings through the study, proven out through our focus group work with
investors, bankers, real estate developers, this is a plan that's going to need to rely on
not 200, not 300 unit projects because there isn't much land left and the size of the
parcels that are left. The City's looking at the sweet spot of building on this plan, 1 to
5 to 50 unit projects. And that changes the game dramatically. Right now affordable
housing is a game built for large developers because it's difficult, complex, hard to
finance. All of the recommendations of the plan are aimed at democratizing the
affordable housing process in the city, opening it up, small owners, small developers,
single family homeowners, opening it up to a new class of investors in affordable
housing that really hasn't happened before. So we're talking about opening this up to
a whole new set of investors, builders, owners, developers, but in that 5 to 50 unit is a
real sweet spot, and that's what these recommendations are built around. Some of the
key strategies to make this happen, aggressive land banking looking at acquiring
lending to properties that are currently affrrdable, repurposing an expansion of
commercial uses, strip malls, T5, T6 uses, and tapping the strength of the city's
existing real estate development talent. That's critical. We've got one of the smartest,
best, fastest, most talented real estate development ecosystems in the nation. I've
never seen a city where towers go up as fast and are sold as fast. We've got some real
talent here. Let's capitalize on that and use it. The plan does that. We need to build
local not -for -profit development capacity. Let's look at innovating the technology.
Let's make this an investment in new types of housing, more efficient housing, green
housing, focusing on ownership and management. Let's use these investments as much
as possible. Let's leverage them with other economic development, small business, to
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really start investing in a large way in communities that need it most. Let's make this
the anchor of rebuilding entire communities, not just providing housing units, but
really fostering the whole economic development of the most distressed communities
within the city, and a focus on mixed -use, mixed -income development. Those are the
ones that work best. Geographically, where this plays out in the city, we've looked at
where the greatest opportunities are in terms of developing affordable housing. The
City's T5 and T6 corridors, lithe RAD (Rental Assistance Demonstration) program
progresses, there's significant opportunity to provide new mixed -income, mixed -use
units within the existing public housing projects. Single-family neighborhoods, an
important part of Miami's fabric and a huge opportunity to protect and preserve
affordable housing and help keep homeowners in their affordable homes. Limited
single-family accessory dwelling units. We're being cautious about the development of
micro units because that will serve such a small slice of the market. And as I said,
repurposing, converting commercial properties, and then future TOD (Transit
Oriented Development) development. Those are your best opportunities. In terms of
the numbers, you can see those immediate opportunities on the chart, the numbers of
existing units that are affordable. If you look just at the T5 and T6 corridors, that's
42,000 units right there existing that are currently affordable. So, the units are out
there, and it doesn't mean spending all on new units at all. We wouldn't recommend
that. But the opportunities to develop rental and ownership housing is already there,
just focusing on existing units. There's a significant wealth of those units across the
city, and you see that play out throughout the rest of the city. Single family, the RAD
program, TOD sites, but really T5, T6, and the single family opportunities are
tremendous within Miami. Serves a large part of the market and demographics.
Geographically, you see where it plays out. The yellow is single family home
opportunities, affordable. The purple and blue are TOD sites, or sorry, the purple is
RAD program targeted sites, and the green are the T5 and T6 corridors. So really the
opportunities are in the communities that need it most, those are where your
opportunities intersect. We've looked actually across the entire city, district by
district, and summarizing the exact needs. When you total the gap between units in
each district. And we've even taken, we had a large discussion at the last workshop
about use of median income, and we've used the city's median income, we've even
refined that now. We're looking at median income by district because each district has
such a different median income compared to each other. So, you look at really, really
expressing who's in need, you can see that there is -- there is large rental demand in
each of the districts and there is significant demand for ownership units. This
represents the gap between the number of families at 80 percent of median income
and the shortage of units, both renter and owner. So there is opportunities to develop
significant ownership and rental properties. And as we've said, it's not an either or
proposition, because when you're developing ownership, and increasing the city's
percentage of ownership is important, but investing in renter housing is actually a
pipeline to develop future owners. If you're getting renters into properties at a more
affordable rate, they're immediately saving owners, they become future homeowners.
They're actually building your home ownership base through building affordable
rental housing wells. It's a continuum. The first -- the five point -- the second point of
the five point plan, we're recommending creating an affordable housing finance
corporation. This also is a time -tested, traditional methodology to bring focused
resources and talent to a problem. And you see that play out across the United States
over the last 50 years. Development of development corporations, finance
corporations, controlled by the City but given speed, flexibility and the ability to pool
funds, finance property acquisition, own property if they had to, and really coordinate
and leverage the City's investment, leverage the City's money to build a pool of
funding. We're also recommending that this is an opportunity to tap into the city and
the region's considerable development talent. This entity should really be the best and
brightest of our real estate talent so that we can really focus on the scale of this
problem. You've got that opportunity with a development corporation. To find it, a
corporation needs a creative fund. We've recommended building a layered. fund
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looking at a number of sources to get to a $4 to $6 billion total investment. You're
going to need over ten years, probably about a billion dollars in different incentives,
tax credits, other types offunding, public investment, and also low interest loans. So,
you've got to build a layered fund from a number of sources. Reaching scale on that
quickly is really important. We think it's not only doable, the one thing that it's doing,
and you look at the available sources, we're not proposing anything that's radical or
anything that's rocket science. One of the keys here, remember that we talked about
making affordable housing development accessible to smaller players. One of the keys
here, one of the reasons affordable housing is tough to do is as an affordable housing
developer, you may have to go to 10 or 12 different places to stitch together funding.
We're recommending that because you've got a corporation, you've got a And that's
managed by the corporation, you're creating a one -stop shop. This now makes it much
easier for smaller owners, builders, developers to access funding, get service and get
support, these are sources that you can easily layer together to build a capital stack.
Leveraging the City's $85 million and that really, that first $85 million is key because
that that not only leverages, it puts the City as the driver of it and it gives you the
leverage to bring other players to this party that really need to come to it, especially
the large banks, the large local banks. We have been making investments, but it's time
to ramp that up. This gives you the real key to do that. The type o f products that you
can then create from this fund, shared equity investments, pre -loans and pre -
acquisition loans are really important. Smaller developers have difficulty acquiring
property to develop affordable housing. It's hard to hold a property when you start
having to make payments and it takes you a year and a half or two years to get it
permitted. They often lose the opportunity. So let's support the front end for the
smaller developer's property acquisition. Again, that used to be done years ago, lost
in federal programs. We're talking about rerunning it through the City's mechanisms
here, down payment system, lease purchase agreements and development of housing
co-ops. You can also do customized loan products. You've also got the opportunity
and you may not call them abatements, but you can investigate the opportunity to do
rebates. Much easier to do. You have that opportunity as well through this vehicle.
Fourth point in the plan, as I said, opening affordable housing development to all is
really key to make this work. It's not going to happen just through large developers.
It's not going to happen through large products. It's going to be a mix. Single family,
up to 50 units is your sweet spot. So let's simplify access. As I said, let's make a one -
stop shop with a corporation, the best talent we have to service it and access to
funding all in one place. That is a new -- that is a new and innovative approach to
affordable housing. That's not being done anywhere right now. Making it streamlined
easy. The City's already streamlining the zoning process. Continue that. We heard
loud and clear from the development community the amount of time it gets -- takes.
Affordable housing is difficult as it is. If it takes a year or more to get permitted, that
can kill a project extremely quickly. So turning up the timetable on that, providing
better expertise, the City's working on that, and we hope you continue to move down
that road. Part of the opportunity here is to invest in new technologies. Part of the
funds can actually sponsor development of more affordable, mass-produced, greener
housing as a part of this. And you can drive the City's climate change agenda as well.
The last point, and fifth point, we would be making a grave error if you are going to
invest $4to $6 billion in the city's economy and not be very conscious about the
opportunities to create new small businesses and jobs. If you look at the opportunities
here, there is an opportunity to create actually incubators, accelerators, provide
training for new contractors. There's grants for small and women -owned minority
entrepreneurs, equipment loans, development incubators, a simplified, continuous,
and consistent community benefits agreement that applies to all investments conning
out of this fund would be of a great benefit to the city and its residents. It would also
simplify the process. Let's have a standard community' benefits agreement that
everybody knows is going to apply walking into projects. You can also offer preferred
access to the rest of the City's investments if you're investing in affordable housing. So
there's an opportunity. We conservatively estimate that this will create about 12,000
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jobs and ifyou go $4 to $6 billion of total investment, that will actually generate,
through multipliers, anywhere between $11 to $20 billion of new economic activity
over 10 years in the city of Miami. That is extremely significant and that's what we
mean about an investment in affordable housing being a dividend that keeps paying
every year. It's a gift the city gives to itself on an annual basis. It really is. We've also
recommended a standard practice in peformance management so that ifyou do
succeed in creating this arm's length controlled by the City entity, there's standard
practices in keeping tight, clear, controlled management of this entity. So you're
managing performance and you're watching the books each year. I just want to
reiterate what Ned said, that the City, by accepting, adopting, and hopefully
implementing the plan, puts the City of Miami in a national leadership position.
Nobody else has taken on the problem at this scale, not even New York. This really
would put Mianii instantly on the national scene, on the national stage, as a real
leader in affordable housing development and economic development. With that, we'd
like to entertain your questions. Thankyou.
Chair Hardemon: Thankyou very, much. Commissioners, do we have any questions
for the gentleman?
Vice Chair Russell: Good morning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you for the presentation and all the work that you all have
done. What is your take on how we have spent the first -- or how we have allocated
the first tranche of the bond? And I've asked Mr. Mensah if he could answer any
questions about that with regard to the millions that we've set aside for that, how we
divided it up in different categories, single family home versus multi family, and then
how we leveraged it through an RFP (Request for Proposal) looking for matching
dollars in stack. I'd love to understand what would be different moving forward if we
adopt the plan from what we've done up to now.
Mr. Grinder: Well, I think the mechanics of how you -- well, the categories, the
opportunities that you've taken, I think those are, that's the low -hanging fruit. I think
they've been really smart in terms of what your immediate opportunities are. The
issue that going forward is going to be, is going to be one of scale. You really do need
to ramp it up. And it's -- I think the Community Development Department and
Director Mensah, we've seen, gets one of the best leverage rates of any community
development department in the country. They're getting someplace between six and
nine for every public dollar spent, they're getting back six to nine dollars of private
investment, which is a great leverage ratio, but it's a question of scale, speed, which
you probably won't get through a City department. And this was actually guidance
that we took from City staff. They looked at this, we laid out a number of options, and
they were very clear to us that to reach this target, we really need to create an entity
that's focused on this, focused on it full-time, and has the tools, talent, time to build
this kind of scale. Because this scale is absolutely unprecedented.
Vice Chair Russell: What is the leverage rate that you're recommending through this -
- through the loan program, through everything? What would you hope and expect
that we could do with this 85 million as a multiplier?
Mr. Grinder: It's going to be a range and you get, the thing is when -- ifyou look at
kind of the instant opportunities, you can make, low-cost, sometimes $25, 000 will go
an extremely long way in keeping somebody in a home, maybe rebuilding a roof and
in exchange, they're keeping the home affordable, even if they choose to sell it. That's
the typical arrangement that you make on a home preservation. And these are HUD
(Housing and Urban Development) programs that used to have millions attached to
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them that don't exist anymore. Home improvement, home renovation loans. We're
talking about recreating this through the City's entity. So it's going to be a range. But
then you're leveraging, you might be leveraging a value on the home of 100, 125, 250
thousand dollars. So you're getting a tremendous leverage ratio. It going to range by
the type of products. Typically, I mean, if you're doing really good work, you get on
renovation projects on existing properties, you may get up to a 10 or 12 leverage
ratio if you look at what comes in in value. On new projects, it's harder to get that.
That's where you get a five to six to seven type of ratio, if you're really good. So
anywhere from 5 to about a 12 is what you expect across the range, depending, it's
project by project.
Vice Chair Russell: Interesting, so for example, today we're working with Rebuilding
Together. We're doing an event this very morning, actually. Nine homes are being
renovated, single family homes. There's different stacks that they're pulling from, but
what my understanding is they're able to take a government dollar that we give them
and multiply it on a renovation, minimum double, and in best case, about four. And I
was thinking that's a huge win, but you're saying we should be starting at the thought
process of about a five.
Mr. Grinder: You can do that, yeah. They do great work. They're also working with
families, I'm working with them in South Dade as well. They're actually working with
families at the very lowest end of the income scale. A lot of the homes that they work
on, they actually target homes that are the most difficult to renovate. These are homes
that require significant, sometimes handicap improvements, entire bathrooms,
kitchens, entire roof. So, they are actually -- they are spending a lot of money. They
leverage a lot of it through volunteer help, volunteer labor, sponsorships, and that is a
good leverage ratio, but when you're really looking at the ability and you look at the
work that Director Mensah does, 6 to 9 to 10 leverage ratio, when you start getting
low interest loans, you really get the private players piggybacking on to the public
investments with the higher, you get the higher leverage ratios.
Vice Chair Russell: Mr. Chairman, could I ask Mr. Mensah about our leverage ratios
on what we've allocated already?
Chair Hardemon: Yes, and then once you're finished with your line of questioning, I'm
going to call on Commissioner Carollo.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you.
George Mensah (Director, Housing and Community Development): Good morning,
Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. Yes, we've actually achieved about 24.3 leverage
ratio, if you look at your screen, you'll see that for the tranche one, we have 621 units,
the amount of City funding is 10,000, sorry, 10,150,000, and the leverage is 260,750,
and when you look, it becomes 24.83. For 16, 344,000 no, 16,344, is actually the
average cost per UB (Unit Built) housing unit built. So, that's what we achieved so
far.
Vice Chair Russell: So that's a 24?
Mr. Mensah: That's 24, yes.
Vice Chair Russell: That seems incredible.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, it is.
Vice Chair Russell: So --
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Mr. Grinder: It is.
Vice Chair Russell: So, the loan fund concept is a departure from what we've done in
the first tranche. And so as we choose to adopt a plan and move forward, that's why
I'm trying to really understand what's broken with what we're doing and what would
we be -- what would be better than what we're doing by adopting the plan and
following it through. Mr. Mensah, what's your opinion on it?
Mr. Mensah: The difference between this methodology and what the innovation fund
does is that, as you can see, this is purely city funding, which is -- the 10 million is
purely city funding. With the innovation find, you also got philanthropy that will
come in to be able to provide something that is in addition to what the city has
provided, so we could get an even higher ratio than what we are currently getting. 1
also think that you have to look at the fact that this leverage ratio we have achieved is
partly most because of the tax credit program. So, if you take the tax credit program
out there, the ratio definitely will go down. And because of the competitive nature of
the tax credit programs, if we want to rely only on the tax credit programs, we will
never reach the 32,000 units that we're thinking about because of the competitive
nature. So this innovation fund brings in additional dollars which could be used
instead of the tax credit price. So, when the city developers go to Tallahassee and they
only get three projects, we can do two or three additional projects that are not tax
credit related but will be made up of this innovation fund.
Mr. Grinder: And one of the key differences is that a corporation that's then qualified
as a CDFI (Community Development Financial Institutions) under federal guidelines,
opens it up to a whole nother set of funding sources that the city typically can't get a
hold of or can't use, new markets tax credits. It could have its own source of
significant new markets tax credits. It could participate either as an equity or debt
participant in opportunity zone investing, which is some of the fastest growing
investment vehicles in the United States right now. So it opens it up to a -- using the
corporate -- development corporation format allows you to use a lot of sources that
the city really can't get a hold of on its own. It brings a lot more tools to the table.
Commissioner Reyes: Mr. Mensah.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner Reyes.
Commissioner Carollo: No, no --
Commissioner Reyes: Oh, I'm sorry.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Reyes.
Commissioner Carollo: I'll let him go.
Commissioner Reyes: No, no. I want to hear what you've got to say (INAUDIBLE).
Commissioner Carollo: Well, I'm going to be taking quite a bit, I think.
Commissioner Reyes: Well, that's usual (INAUDIBLE) --
Commissioner Carollo: Alright. Thank you.
Commissioner Reyes: I'm used to it.
Commissioner Carollo: Well,. first of all, thank you all for being here this morning.
Mr. Mensah the -- I see the leverage amount that you're putting here and everything
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else, and 1 was, just thinking about something that I learned at a very young age in
life, that paper would hold as much ink as you want to put into it. Interpret that any
way that you would like to. But on the amounts that you've shown us here overall, the
$16,344.61 that was the City's average cost for housing unit built, how much was the
average cost of that unit?
Mr. Mensah: I didn't do that, butt can do that right now. It should be -- ifvou look at
the number of units that we have here, it translates to, I don't know if I'm doing it
right, but about 419,900. This is all in.
Commissioner Carollo: Excuse me, 419,000.
Mr. Mensah: That's what is shown here, if you divide it by that.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, so you're telling me that the average cost of these units
were 419,000. And we contributed 16,344.61 towards the cost of those units. Is that
correct?
Mr. Mensah: That's what I have here, 16,344 average cost per UB housing units.
Commissioner Carollo: Chairman.
Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: You're going to become very focal in your district in some of
the information I'm going to bring out. How many people do you think you have in
your district that can afford a unit that's 419,000?
Chair Hardemon: In ownership?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: With the down payment?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: In mortgage and interest?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Hardemon: In the district, quite a bit. I mean, I have a district that's very
diverse, so a lot ofpeople make good money that live in the district. My community is
on the upper eastside, Buena Vista East.
Commissioner Carollo: But I'm not talking about the wealthy part of your district. I'm
talking about the bulk of your district that's not as wealthy. We all have wealthy parts
in each of our districts, but they're minorities.
Chair Hardemon: The -- the other --
Commissioner Carollo: Especially in the bay. The closer you get to the water, the
wealthier they are.
Chair Hardemon: The more expensive, right, and it becomes more expensive. But
other parts of my district, there's a great deal of people who live in the district who
cannot afford a mortgage of that amount, of course. Unless they have -- unless of
course, and this is what happens a lot I've seen in the district, they've maintained the
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cost of the housing as far as the sale price, but they found programs. I've seen
instances they find programs that reduce the liability of the debt that the hone
purchaser has. So, for instance, if a house costs -- they sell it for 300,000 in the
neighborhood to maintain the home values in the neighborhood, they have $100,000
or $200, 000 in some sort of mortgage assistance grants that the homeowner does not
have to meet that financial obligation for. So I've seen them do that.
Mr. Mensah: Okay. I have just been corrected that the 16,000 is bond eligible units,
because not all the -- how many is bond eligible units, which means that not all the
600-something thousand are bond units. Because when we -- do you want to come and
explain?
Commissioner Carollo: Just explain to me, since you can't figure this one out yourself
right now. The 16,344.61 that we're investing in leveraging these units, what are those
units actually costing? You first told me 419,000. It's obvious to everyone here that it's
a very high number that most Miamians can't afford, whether it's to buy or to rent,
because even if it's to rent, based on the cost of that unit then, it's going to be a very
high rent, unless they're getting subsidies from somewhere.
Alfredo Duran: Alfredo Duran with Housing and Community Development. The 621
units are bond eligible units, meaning that they are up to the workforce level, which is
what the bond is intended to assist. The total cost of this development is for projects
that the total development cost, which some projects had market rate units, which
were not bond eligible units. So, our investment of $16,000 is for bond eligible units.
621 of those units were bond eligible units. So, the question that you're asking is hard
to figure out right now until we have all the spreadsheets of all the projects costs and
how many units were non -eligible.
Commissioner Carollo: So, you can't tell me right now?
Mr. Duran: No, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: When do you think you'll be able to give me a number on
that?
Mr. Duran: We would have to go back to the file and check the total unit mix.
Commissioner Carollo: We're starting the day in the wrong foot. But anyway, I
appreciate that.
Mr. Duran: The $16,000 is with the Citv's investment, not the cost per unit, the City's
investment per unit.
Commissioner Carollo: I know that. Now, using the last member you gave me until
you figure out whatever number, new number you want to give me, how many of these
units do you really feel would not have ever been built if we had not given them
16,344.61 per unit.
Mr. Mensah: Your question is, Commissioner, I can't hear very well. So your question
is, how many of these would be built if we didn't give them money?
Commissioner Carollo: How many would not have been built if we had not given
them money?
Mr. Mensah: I cannot tell you how many wouldn't be built, because obviously if the
City didn't provide them money and if the developers have skin in the game, they will
scramble anywhere to -- but there are some people that we didn't give them money
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that currently cannot build. Because we had 24, 27 projects that applied for funding.
There are some that we didn't give them funding that have no longer moving forward.
So I can 't tell you that.
Commissioner Carollo: Do you think that these units would have been built or not if
we had not given them that money per unit?
Mr. Mensah: Maybe not. We can't say, but I think that not all of them would have
been built. Like I said, there are some that we didn't give them money, that didn't
build.
Commissioner Carollo: So you think not all of them would have been built?
Mr. Mensah: No.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, I'm going to give you my opinion. I think that probably
all, if not many, would still have been built if we had not given this. This is why this
high leverage that you've given me, I just don't buy that we're given this huge
leverage. First of all, and I'm glad Mr. Duran clarified that, on the workforce, this is
on the probably high end of workforce housing amounts in our city, $419, 000. This is
very different than the cost for the biggest need that we have, which is the low-income
housing. The people that make up the vast majority of Miami. They can't afford high-
level housing, either to rent or to own. When you're getting into this $400, 000 plus
range, you're getting into a whole different ballpark. And this is, while it's needed, I'm
going to tell you where basically you're getting the people for these units. They are
coming from outside the city of Miami. They are not coming from the city of Miami
itself, that have lived here, and in other words, they are leaving an inferior unit for
something better.
Mr. Duran: If may go back to your -- again, the $400, 000 per unit is not the right
figure because it is not counting -- these are only the bond eligible units. So, that per
unit count would go down significantly. When you add those, it will not. Now going
back to whether or not the projects would be built with or without our money, perhaps
they would, perhaps they wouldn't. However, there is no guarantee that those income
levels, which is not only, up to workforce, there is also 80 and lower, would have been
provided to the City with the guarantee and the commitment that the City would
obligate them for a long period of time. So we are securing these units for a very long
period of time, the affordability period, which is what our dollars are intended to do.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Grinder: Point of clarification? Sony, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: Excuse me, I am with them. I will get to you in a minute. I
thank you for those words and information, but I think you've made my point in what
I'm trying to show here, that this leverage of 24 to 1, or whatever it is that you're
saying, this is all assumptions that we've really got all this leverage. Because most of
these would most likely have been built, whether they had that or not. In a way, it just
made it cheaper to developers to build, especially big developers. Small type of
developer is a different story now. The one that's going to go out there and build the
dozen to maybe 50 units, it's a whole different ball gaine. And those, I believe are the
ones that this city needs to get involved with the most because we have the most
amount of small land available, it's empty all aver the city, that you can only build
those sizes. The big boys, like some that I see here, they don't care about that. They
want to go with the big units that they can get $419, 000 jor, because there's a lot of
money involved in that. These same units. for $419, 000 that are probably a two -
bedroom, two -bath, with the plan that we're proposing in the city, at best we could bill
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them for about $175,000 and give it to the public for that same amount of dollars to
buy. But let me move on. Before 1 get to you, sir, 1 asked the deputy manager -- by the
way, Mr. Manager, did we ever get anything from the mayor so that the Commission
could approve the vacancy that we've had with the City Manager that's not around so
that you or somebody could be confirmed? Or did I forget something in the last
meeting?
Joe Napoli (Deputy City Manager): Commissioner, I don't think anything has been
sent to you. The city manager is currently on the leave.
Commissioner Carollo: We'll deal with it at the end if this commission would like to,
but maybe we can't because of the special commission meeting. The amount of costs
that the City paid for this study, do you know what it was, sir?
Mr. Napoli: The Commission approved 125,000 and the cost — the cost is 110,000.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. Was there any additional monies that were spent on
this outside of that?
Mr. Napoli: No.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. When did this study begin? Do you remember?
Mr. Napoli: I don't know the exact date, but it was about a year, a little over a year
ago. About a year ago.
Commissioner Carollo: About a year ago.
Mr. Napoli: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. And do you have the timetable of how long it took to
get the study back from the actual date that the commission approved dollars for?
Mr. Napoli: The initial draft, I mean I can get that date, but it's been an iterative
process up until now.
Commissioner Carollo: Alright. My next question is, did you check District 4 for
accuracy in the information we were given or you just take it at face value that
everything we were given was accurate and correct?
Mr. Napoli: I was briefed on it several times, Commissioner, with staff I know there
were a lot of questions asked during all of those iterative sessions we have. I think our
staff, as they were going through and working with them,, were checking information
all along.
Commissioner Carollo: What was the input or involvement of the city manager with
this process, if I could get that on the record?
Mr. Napoli: The city manager received a copy of the draft and was briefed on it. Like
I said, I was involved throughout the process with our affordable housing steering
group where we were consistently briefed and updated on the project.
Commissioner Carollo: You would just send him drafts of what was going on,
basically?
Mr. Napoli: I'm sorry, Commissioner, I couldn't hear you.
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Commissioner Carollo: You would send him drafts of whatever they gave you or
whatever you were told?
Mr. Napoli: Correct, and he was briefed by our station it.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. So, to go back to my, original question, did you check,
when I say you, I'm talking the city manager, yourself, or anyone that you could point
to in your administration under you that you could give directions and orders to, was
there anyone that checked for the accuracy of the different information that we were
given in this report.
Mr. Napoli: Like I said, Commissioner, in all of our meetings there were a lot of
questions asked. I'll ask George Mensah to see if he and his staff were checking for —
Commissioner Carollo: I'm talking about the final draft, as we have here.
Mr. Napoli: I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question.
Commissioner Carollo: The final draft that we have here.
Mr. Napoli: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: Was there any checking into the accuracy of the information
in this report that we have received?
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah, commissioner —
Commissioner Carollo: Hold on for a minute. I just want him to answer the last
question.
Mr. Napoli: Commissioner, like I said, during all of our sessions on the iterative
process, there were a lot of questions asked, and several of those questions were on
accuracy. Our staff I'll ask George Mensah to ask how his specific procedure was for
fact checking.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, so at least from you and the manager, I see that there's
no checking for accuracy. Maybe your people that work under you did some of that.
So I'll go to Mr. Mensah, if you want to punt it.
Mr. Napoli: No, I'm not punting, Commissioner. I'm just telling you what occurred.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. Sir.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: Did you do any checking or did anyone in your department
under you do any checking for accuracy in the final draft of this report here?
Mr. Mensah: Commissioner, I reviewed all the 82 pages on the report. I also had my
staff review all the 82 pages. We also have another group of community residents who
are part of Connect Capital, it was to send to them all to review and see if they have
anything that they can correct. And we did make FIU make some corrections on our
suggestions and make some changes on our suggestions. Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. But this final draft here, the administration is .fine with
it, correct?
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Mr. Mensah: Yes, yes, to the best of nay abilities.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. Madam City Attorney, did your office use the stats in
this report to validate our bonds?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): In the City Attorney's Office, pursuant to resolution
-- to certain resolutions that passed by the City Commission, was able to use the raw
data in the needs assessment as -- and the needs assessment report, the original phase
one, for the bond validations.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. So it was used for the bond validation?
Ms. Mendez: It was used. The raw data was used.
Commissioner Carollo: So we already put out one portion of it, 15 million, correct?
Ms. Mendez: No, it was just we've just gone to the bond validation portion.
Commissioner Carollo: I understand that, but I'm talking out of the 100 million that
we had, 15 million went out already. That we put out, out of the 100 million and the
$400 million package that we had, we worked out so that 15 million would go out in
the first tranche of the bonds that we're putting out?
Ms. Mendez: Pursuant to the bond validation, 1 don't think we've put anything out to
market. I know that there have been certain placements that have been done and we
may have reimburse ourselves, but I can --
Commissioner Carollo: But this is what I'm talking about in the placements of what
we have identified that's going to be going out. There's 15 million that has been taken
out of the $100 million already.
Ms. Mendez: Give me one second.
Commissioner Carollo: The 100 million was for housing.
Chair Hardemon: Mr. Mensah.
Commissioner Carollo: She's giving me an answer to everything.
Robin Jones -Jackson (Senior Assistant City Attorney): Mr. Commissioner, no, there
has been no borrowing since the bond validation.
Commissioner Carollo: Excuse me?
Ms. Jones -Jackson: There has been no borrowing. The City has had -- there's been no
borrowing, there's been no bonds put out yet.
Commissioner Carollo: I think you're all not understanding what my question is.
Ms. Jones -Jackson: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Out of $100 million that we have with bonds, we have taken
$15 million out of the 100 million that we already have identified where it's going.
Ms. Jones -Jackson: Yes, we have identified that 15 million, when the City does go out
for the. first tranche would be for affordable housing, but that has not occurred yet.
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Commissioner Carollo: 1 understand.
Ms. Jones -Jackson: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: And this is where we are now putting the bond validation
based upon the stats that we have gotten here, correct?
Mr. Mensah: Can I, Commissioner --
Commissioner Carollo: We're using the stats that are here to validate the bonds once
we put them out.
Ms. Jones -Jackson: Among the different types of evidence that are in the bond
validation are the Phase 1 needs assessment as well as other studies for the local
community. That is one of the pieces of evidence.
Commissioner Carollo: That's what 1 wanted to get on the record, that we are using
this and you've confirmed that. Thank you.
Commissioner Reyes: May I add to that? I just want to, Mr. Chair, I want to clarify
from the Attorney's answer. What you're saying is that the validation took into
consideration the findings of the analysis that was part of the -- of the argument
presented to the court?
Ms. Mendez: What we placed in our bond validation was the first part of this report.
Commissioner Reyes: The first?
Ms. Mendez: Not what's here before you.
Commissioner Reyes: Not the implementation.
Ms. Mendez: Right.
Commissioner Reyes: They --just the findings of this report.
Ms. Mendez: Right. So in the needs assessment --
Commissioner Reyes: Is that right?
Ms. Mendez.: The needs assessment and technical compendium that had all sorts of
raw data, all that information was used towards our bond validation.
Commissioner Reyes: And in order to clari_fy what we are doing here today. Does
what -- according to what you're saying is if we -- in order to validate, in order to be
able to sell our bonds, we have to accept the findings from the analysis since they
were used for validation purposes.
Ms. Mendez: So let me clarify that. What you have before you today is the Affbrdable
Housing Master Plan.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Ms. Mendez: That, in just certain pages 13 through 19 and 34 through 48, you have
certain raw data and certain information.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right.
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Ms. Mendez: If you decide -- whatever you decide to do with that Affordable Housing
Master Plan, 1 just want the record to reflect that in those pages, there's raw data that
was in the original needs assessment compendium that we put in the --
Commissioner Reyes: That -- it's --
Ms. Mendez: But that raw data was obviously --
Commissioner Reyes: Yes.
Ms. Mendez: -- manipulated and worked on by FIU to make certain other
conclusions.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Ms. Mendez: We just need -- we just relied on the raw data, which is all the different
studies that were done and things of that nature.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay. But, but the question is, in order for that validation to
take place, I mean, we already validated it, the deal, in order, for us to be able to sell
the bonds, we have to accept the findings.
Ms. Mendez: You have to accept the raw data. You do not have to --
Commissioner Reyes: The raw data.
Ms. Mendez: Right. You do not have to --
Commissioner Reyes: Okay. You can call it, you can call it, the raw data in the
second, in the implementation, and the raw data that is in here, in the first phase.
Ms. Mendez: Right. In the raw data that's in the needs assessment and technical
compendium, which was the first phase.
Commissioner Reyes: The first phase.
Ms. Mendez.: And the raw data that's in pages 13 through 19 and 34 through 48. But
remember that data is different from the conclusions that FIU mav have come through
by manipulating that information and the recommendations. You do not have to
accept the recommendations.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right, but we have to accept that all the findings that FIU
because we using it --
Ms. Mendez: The raw data.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes, ma'am, I know what raw data is, but that raw data is
included in this report.
Ms. Mendez: Yes, it is. And that what we are discussing is we're going to accept this
report.
Ms. Mendez: Yes.
Commissioner Reyes: And it is needed to accept this report in order for us to be able
to sell the --
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Ms. Mendez: You can bifurcate it. I'm not telling you that you have to accept all the
recommendations.
Commissioner Reyes: I'm not talking about the recommendation. The
recommendation is Phase 2.
Ms. Mendez: Right.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Ms. Mendez: But in Phase 2 you have --
Commissioner Reyes: 1 know, 1 know you are -- your concern. When we get to Phase
2, if we're going to accept it or not, we will exclude those paragraphs.
Ms. Mendez: Okay. Thank you.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay. Yes, I know you're concerned about that. My concern is
about accepting the -- what do we have to accept in order for us to be able to sell the
bonds?
Ms. Mendez: The raw data.
Commissioner Reyes: The raw data, which is in Phase 1.
Ms. Mendez: Right.
Commissioner Reyes: And you would just have to accept the report, that's it.
Ms. Mendez: Right. The original report that you've already accepted. You've already
accepted that report, so you really don't have to do anything with regard to that.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay, that's --
Ms. Mendez: The only thing, the only --
Commissioner Reyes: I misunderstood when we met, that it was needed for us, I mean
it was a requirement for us to accept, for this Commission, to accept Phase 1, just the
findings.
Ms. Mendez: Right, you already accepted that needs.
Commissioner Reyes: We already accepted that. Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Well --
Ms. Mendez: But that report, in certain pages of this Affordable Housing Master
Plan, it's referenced in there. So, if you decide that you are not happy with certain
things with this -- with regard to this Affordable Housing Master Plan, then you don't
have to necessarily accept it right now. You can still work on it and things, you know,
move further.
Commissioner Reyes: I just wanted to clarify° that. I just wanted to clarify that.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Carollo.
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Commissioner Carollo: What 1 believe we had done was we had acknowledged
receipt.
Ms. Mendez: Yes, you did. You already did that.
Commissioner Reyes: We acknowledged receipt.
Commissioner Carollo: Acknowledge receipt.
Ms. Mendez: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Let me explain why I'm going through all these series of
questions. And a lot more that I'm going to be bringing out. And that is because the
City of Miami, bar no other city in America, has had the worst record of any city once
we go out for bonds. The last two bond issuance that this city went out to, we got
slapped down by the Securities and Exchange Commission. In fact, the last one, we
became the only city in the country that was ever taken to court by the Securities and
Exchange Commission, and we were found guilty and had to pay, I believe, ifI recall,
around a million dollars for not being truthful, not being accurate to bond investors. I
was not here during those last two go-arounds. I am here now, and I'm certainly
going to make sure that 1 do everything that is within my responsibility and reach so
that that won't happen again, even if it means that 1 will not vote for something. Now,
having said that, let me go into the actual report. So your turn is going to be up in a
minute. Thank you. On pages 36 to 44 of the FIU Miami Affordable Housing Master
Plan, on page 47 of the Needs and Assessment Technical Componium [sic] that
provides the underlying basis for the plan. It seems that there is incorrect data. And
let me go into the area that 1 want to bring up. Page 40 of the plan lists the median
household income for renters as being $22, 760 for residents of District 3, my district,
while on page 44 of the plan, it lists the very same amount of the median household
income for renters being at $22,760, the very same amount, for the median household
income for renters who reside in District 5. In addition, in page 47 of the assessment,
likewise contains the same amount of $22, 760 as being the median house income for
renters in District 1, Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla. It is my understanding that
the American Community Survey, upon which this portion of the plan is based, is not
supportive, it's not supportive of FIU's finding with regards to all three districts
having the same median income for renters. We all know the city, we all know our
districts, and I submit to you that all three of our districts do not have the same
median income of $22, 760 for renters. In addition, on page 41 of the plan, it states
that 60.6 percent of housing units in D3 (District 3) are 50 years or older. Page 44 of
the plan lists the exact same percentage, 60.6 percent, for the number of housing units
in District 5 that are over 50 years of age. The housing units in District 3 are listed as
34,420, of which using the 60.6 percent, are 20,858, slight difference, just a few less
units. That, personally, I find insignificant, but I'm still bringing it out because it's
supposed to be accurate. But what is truly most striking is that the plan states that
there are 41,525 -- 41,525 housing units in District 5, of which 60.6percent would
equal 25,164 units over 50 years old. Not the 20,584 as the plan claims, so it's a big
difference of about 18, 19 percent within what the plan says and what it should be. In
page 53, the plan calls for the creation of an affordable housing innovation fund with
a 10-year capitalization of 1 billion 360 million. 1 billion 360 million. 2 billion 985
million. With that amount, the plan suggests that 200 million to 800 million is big
swing, big, big swing, be obtained through a vacancy tax, which they were told that
it's illegal under the Florida State laws. State of Florida says it's illegal. But
nevertheless, we're being given another $200 to $800 million that would be coming
from this. Madam City Attorney, did you ever have any conversations with the
administrations or the authors of the plan that this was illegal in Florida law?
Ms. Mendez: I did not. I know that my staff and the --
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Commissioner Carollo: Did anyone from your staff have any conversations with
them?
Ms. Mendez: Correct. My staff and the administration had mentioned it, that the --
that that's something we could not do.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, so your staff did mention it --
Ms. Mendez: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: -- that this is illegal within the state of Florida, but
nevertheless, this is still in this plan as part of the gaps that we're filling. So, in
essence, we're being asked for $85 million in a plan that, just in this area alone, we
have a gap of between $200 to $800 million. Now let's go through -- let's go to page
53.
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Commissioner Carollo: 53 of the plan. Although this plan identified funding sources
of 1 billion 360 million to 2 billion 985 million. And let me rephrase that. When it
identifies sources, a lot of big ifs and a lot of big ranges of sources. Page 51 of the
plan states, the total investment required to reach the 25 percent affordable unit
market share target will require somewhere between 4 and 6 billion of total
investments over 10 years. 10 years that I don't think none of us are going to be up
here on the elected side. The language, I believe, is suggesting that the funding gap,
then, even if we take at face value that all these dollars are going to come from all
these other pockets, that is not clear and doubtful, that the gap that we have is
actually somewhere in the range of $3 to $4 billion. Now, given all these imaginary
funding sources and discrepancies, I would have a very tough time in approving our
$85 million to be used as the so-called seed money or the experimental money. If you
can acquire, like you're stating here, and this has never happened in the history of
Miami -Dade County, $300 to $500 million from philanthropy, and I suggest that you
come up with those people that you're figuring are going to come with $300 to $500
million for the $85 million initial money that supposedly is going to spark everything
else in here. And what I'm seeing is that the only money that I can ident is hard
money, it's already five million for the bonds. There's a series of commercial loans,
private loan pool that is between $400 and $500 million. That's not very well
explained. The philanthropy monies, 300 to 500 million. Real estate investment trusts,
100 million. New market tax credits, 75 to 200 million. The proposed empty vacancy
tax, which you heard the Citv Attorney state that it's illegal under Florida law, and
her staff made it clear it was. They got it down here as filling the gap between $200
and $800 million. And then there's an affordable housing linkage, fee of between $200
and $800 million, which brings it to, on page 53, between 1 billion 360 million to 2
billion 985 million. But page 51 says that the total investment required to reach the 25
percent affordable unit market share target will require between $4 and $6 billion of
total investments over 10 years. Further, for everything that I read here, which
basically it's all the different ideas that have been thrown out there jbr years here and
every other city in America, just about, I don't see why we have to create a finance
corporation. I don't see why our own department can't handle it. The one thing they
will need is that we bring in additional people that you will need, because you don't
have enough personnel. But to create a separate finance corporation for what is being
shown to us here, you basically have been doing a lot of this, if not most of this, for
quite a few years. So, I don't see that. It's another thing, if we're going now into the
phase that this Commission already stated that we're willing to put in, I believe it was
$250 million, that we're going to be bringing it back and studying it, for the
construction of low-income housing and real workforce housing in the city so people
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can own their own properties. That's a different story where you might need some
other mechanism outside of a City department. But in this whole master plan, there's
only three paragraphs, one, two, three, that talk about home ownership. And this is
really what it's all about. We have been kicking the can in America with rental and
rental and rental, and what we need to be speaking about in Miami and in the rest of
America is home ownership, home ownership, home ownership, where instead of
people throwing their money out the window every month, we can show them and help
them into owning their own home. They'll take care of it much more. They'll feel a lot
better, and frankly, we could do it at a cost to them that would be equal to what
they're paying in rental right now. Because the beautiful condominiums that are built
Jro400 plus, $500,000, we can build those in the city of Miami for around $175, 000.
The difference is we're going to give them at cost, not be looking to making a big
profit from them. And this is where the housing problem has come in this city, that
developers, they're not going to make big money, and I'm talking about the big boys,
in real low-income housing, real low -workforce housing, they're going to make their
money in what we all know, the foreign investors, others that are coming in here and
paying high prices. And this is why we have such an unbalance in the market that we
have. And the only way that that's going to get straightened out is for government to
have to come in with some, the few in the developing world that truly have a heart and
want to do something for those that are in most need, and that's the majority of our
city, and that they're going to be willing to make a small profit and make their gain in
volume. Volume. Not in just make a hit and bring in the millions in every single
project. So, I have brought quite a few points up, that just in these alone, we got a
problem with our bonds, unless this could be figured out right here, if we're going to
be using this.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, Commissioner Reyes.
Mr. Grinder: We'll take each one in turn. You asked the question of whether these --
whether units would be built in the city without subsidy or not. It's clear market
failure. We're not aware of any affordable housing being built in Miami -Dade
County, for that matter, the entire metro area, without some type of subsidy. There's
no developer doing this out of their heart. There are no developers doing this for not
making a profit, so that government has to intervene in some way to start delivering
these units. And that's where it's at. It's either free land, tax credits, grants. There's no
housing, no affordable housing being built in this region without active intervention,
active subsidy from government and other sources. It's just not happening. That's why
where we're at. It's too easy to make a huge profit in Miami because there is such
demand. And that's what we're working against in terms of delivering affordable
housing. So there isn't any being built without this. If there was, we wouldn't be here
today. There'd be no need to do this. That's why there's such a crushing need to do
this. As far as the numbers on age of households, we'd be happy to share those raw
data with you,, that's U.S. Census Data. We'd be happy to share those by district, any
way you want it, census tract. We're happy to share with you the raw data files. That's
directly from census. In terms of the median household income numbers, I'll let Ned
handle that.
Mr. Murray: And to reemphasize the point, we consider ourselves data experts, but
we don't create the data. We rely on the U.S. Census as every other unit of local
government in the United States does, including businesses, corporations, marketing
firms. No one is going to build a project anywhere in this country without market
data. And guess what the source is? The U.S. Census. So we use the U.S. Census. We
rely on standard data sources. We have other local sources. Miami Realtors
Association are very accurate with their data, obviously, from listing. Every data
source we use is legitimate and used by everybody as throughout the country. And it is
important though when we start to look and drill down to your districts, if we had
come in with citywide data, it certainly would not have addressed your specific
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questions about your residents and your constituents. So we are able to drill down to
the block group level in your districts, in your neighborhoods, to be able to determine
who's actually living there, what their incomes are, what their housing issues are, and
that's all there. But once again, that's still census data at the block group level. And as
you can see, as you pointed out, Commissioner Carollo, renter median incomes are
much, much less than even the citywide or obviously owner incomes. And they do
vary. There are two districts that have the same amount. That is not unheard of to
have two districts.
Commissioner Carollo: Three.
Mr. Murray: 1 only saw two. But even if that is the case, that is not unheard of. And
once again, this isn'tFIU, this is census data at the block group level. So, we are
giving you -- we are giving you standard data. So all the information, all the data that
was shared with the city as part of the housing needs assessment and the technical
compendium that was discussed earlier is almost predominantly U.S. Census Data,
very current U.S. Census Data. We've done trend analyses, we've extrapolated in
every possible way to give you the best idea of what's going on in your particular
districts. Thank you.
Mr. Mensah: Mr. Chair.
Chair Hardemon: I'll let you respond because I know there were a lot of questions
that were asked and once we're finished with responses, I'll call on Commissioner
Diaz de la Portilla. You're recognized.
Mr. Grinder: As far as the capital stack, again, these are recommendations. These are
amounts we look at, we look at what's being done across the rest of the country. We
look what's' being done in Florida. And these are amounts that we've seen in other
cities, in other cities in Florida and across the state. In fact, new markets tax credits
alone, three banks every year get an allocation between $75 and $100 million a year
in Florida. new market's tax credits are rarely used in South Florida. It stays up in the
rest of the state, but they are collected every year. We're looking at philanthropy that's
now moving into affordable housing. In other cities, significant funds have been put in
by corporate donors and others, bank foundations. We think Miami is actually fertile
ground for philanthropic participation given high net worth and the activity of the
philanthropic sector here. So, these are all target amounts. We don't know how these
will play out and that's the hard work that needs to be done to put this fund together.
It ain't easy. It's going to be real difficult. The start is putting together the team, the
expertise to go out and leverage all of this funding. We don't know where the eventual
pieces will come out. As far as a vacancy tax, that was kicking back and forth during
the -- from the very start of the study, through the end. We left it in with a
recommendation to study it. It's worth studying because of the potential amount. We
recognize it's a severe uphill climb, but again, that's a projected possible amount,
probably not likely, now that the State has firmly closed down on vacancy taxes. That
wasn't the case when we started. In terms of linkage fees, those are legal in Florida.
In fact, we're looking at -- we've done three studies for Broward County that is
looking at implementing countywide linkage fees, which would generate huge
numbers for their affordable housing program. So that's a program that the city really
needs to look at. It is being done in the state of Florida. These sources are going to
have to be put together. It's going to take time. It's going to take tireless effort. If they
all existed, again, we wouldn't be here today. If this was all pooled in one place, if
there was a vehicle to put these sources together, and if the affordable housing
ecosystem delivered this type of expertise, pulled these sources in one place, and
made it easy for developers, we also wouldn't be here, but that's clearly not
happening. That's another market and institutional, failure. The system is built against
smaller players in the affordable housing system we have right now. The only players
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who can afford to do it are the very, very large developers because there is such huge
upfront cost. That's again what this plan is talking about reducing and delivering so
that we can actually produce this level of units or to die trying to get there.
Chair Hardemon: Mr. Mensah.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, Commissioner. Just as an -- I just want to show you this slide that is
on your display right now. This is the homeownership units that we've done in the city
of Miami. Some of them we built it ourselves. We hired contractors to build. And as
you can see, this is the challenge that we have. And 'just want you -- help you in the
discussion when you discuss this. Is that if you can see, the total cost per unit is
163,913. The average subsidy that we put in is 67,791 to be able to make it affordable
to our residents, which is about 41 percent of the subsidy needed jor each home
assisted. So, I just want you to get these numbers so that you know that not that the
city has not done home ownership we've done some. It's not where we need to be, and
the challenge is that because we have to have a lot of leverage to be able to do that.
And I'll just quickly go through some of the houses. This is River Run, which is in
District 1, which is a condo, which will help provide units in this, affordable housing.
This is -- I believe this is Villa Godoy, which is in District 3. Condo Association --
condo for just low-income residents. This is in District 5, which we built, we hired
contractors to build. And we have Ralph Plaza in District 1 and Frow Avenue in
District 2, which Ralph -- Frow Avenue, we hired contractors to build, Ralph Plaza
was built by a non-profit. And then this is St. John's in District 5, which was built by a
nonprofit. So we do, do these home ownership units, unfortunately the financing is
what has made it difficult for us in today's market to be able to do more of it. So I just
want you to know. Thank you.
Mr. Grinder: Mr. Chairman?
Chair Hardemon: I need to recognize.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Pm going to be -- I'm going to say just so far -- less
than a minute really.
Chair Hardemon: Go ahead.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Because this is all very interesting and I
appreciate the academic exercise. I think it's important. I think it's significant. I think
it's important so that you're informed of what's going on. But all we've heard in the
previous workshop, and now what I consider this is turning into a workshop, is from
FIU, from two academics. And I see there're builders and people that actually build
homes in the audience, and no one has addressed this commission and with their
opinion about this study. I think it's important that we hear from the people that
actually do the work and not the people that theorize about it. So Mr. Chairman, I
don't know what your plan is, Mr. Mayor, but I think it's important that we have a
workshop that's really workshopping. And instead ofjust going back and forth
between the academic, going through this academic exercise, which is important, but
again, we're not in a classroom here. We're looking for results and we need to get the
information, but from different parties, from different sources, so we can come to the
best possible solution for the citizens of Miami. So again, I'll say it over on issue after
issue. We need to move forward, we need finality, and this back and forth is not
productive for what -- where we want to get eventually. I think we've done enough of
the academic exercise. I've read the study twice. I don't think we need to continue the
back and forth, except the questions are important. I understand that part. But Mr.
Mayor, maybe if fyou would allow us to have that conversation today.
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Mayor Suarez: Absolutely. And I think you expressed it at the last meeting at the
workshop.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: You wanted to have the development community, members of the
community that are non-profit agencies as well that have spent a lot of time and
energy, members of the public who have been waiting here and some of which took
days off from work to be here and speak on this issue. And I think you wanted to get
input from a variety of different sources --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Yes sir.
Mayor Suarez: -- before making final decisions on what the strategies were that were
going to potentially be implemented to execute this plan. So I agree.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Reyes.
Commissioner Reyes: Yes, I do agree that we need to input -- the input of those that
are really building. But I also want to make something perfectly clear, and that was
one of my concerns when Mr. Mensah came to us with the, 1 mean leveraging of the
first tranche and what we did in my district, remember? You had -- you were levering
19 unit apartments. We were getting four apartments and it was close to a million
dollars that we were providing those builders. And my main concern was all the time,
how are we determining the rent that these people are going to use? Are we using the
County AMI or are we using the City AMI? And according to the study of the analysis,
the median income of all our districts, it might differentiate to be around 2,000 to
3,000 more than more. And I do understand why we -- some of us, we can doubt that,
the way that it was done, because since we traveled all over the district, we see
pockets that they are more, I mean, they are poorer than others. And the median
income is when you place all of them and the one in the middle, that's the median
income. But then you are including all of them, you see. Now, the -- my concern and
main concern was and still is, that if we are going to leverage, because one way or the
other we're going to leverage this. We're going to leverage this money either through
an institution that we're going to create or through your department, but the final
analysis, you're going to leverage because that is the only way that we can develop
affordable housing, because we don't have the billions of dollars to engage ourselves
into a massive, a massive building project. And besides that, we are not builders. You
see we need the builders. We need, ifwe want ownership we need the participation of
financial institutions. Because if we build ten units and we said, okay, this is going --
ten units are going to be for home ownership, we have to find people that qualms. And
the qualification is done through the financial institutions. You see, we need to create
all of that. You see, if we are going to go into this, we need to create the mechanism to
be able to provide assistance to builders that they are willing to participate in the
program and also offer different amount of units. And but what we have to create a
methodology that really, that really represents the needs or take care of the needs of
the population that we want to serve. Because if you are creating what is called
workforce and you are charging $16,000, $18,000 and 140 percent of county AMI
that's for people that have median income of $77, 000. You see, we are not creating
the right housing units for the people that live in the city of Miami. Now, granted,
some people that live outside of the city of Miami could take advantage of that, okay
that are making that much money. So what 1 want to know is, can we -- can we really
count on the developers that ifwe leverage that money, if we offer them that money, I
mean, we are leveraging, we are assisting them in the building, that they are
committed to provide that type of I mean, the apartments or the housing units at a
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cost that really reflects the needs of our population, you see, that it -- that will not
burden the actual population of our city, which is --1 mean, AMI is about, no.
Mr. Mensah: It's 60 percent.
Commissioner Reyes: It's about 60 percent of County AMIs, 60 and below. And that's
what I've been fighting all along since Ifirst got here, trying to make people
understand that if we want it, we really are serious about providing affordable
housing. We have to really build housing units that our people will only be able to
pay. People will be able to pay. And the formula is very easy. Thirty percent of your
gross income, if anything higher, as (UNINTELLIGIBLE) very well expressed, that it
is important that 30 because at any, 1 mean, any percentage above 30 percent
precludes you that you have to pay for the housing. Then it leaves you very little
money to consume. And as consumption conies down, economic activity comes down
because there's less demand for products. See, it's very basic economics. Okay? And
the question is, in my question, are we going -- and this is what we have to decide, are
we going to leverage this $85 million with, with, I will say, with a covenant or with a
compromise, I mean, with the builders, are they willing to offer that type of housing
when we are, I mean, when we are giving them incentives to build?
Mr. Mensah: Yes, Commissioner.
Commissioner Reyes: I mean, and that thing is very important, and 1 want to hear
from the builders, you see, because they are the ones that have the last word. Because
if they don't build, we won't be able to build.
Mr. Mensah: Commissioner, typically what we do is that when we do an RFP, we give
minimums. You have to provide, let's say, 20 percent at 30 percent, 40 percent at 60
percent, and then the rest at 80 percent. So something like that. If it's the will of the
Commission, and the Commission wants us to be able to enter intoff an RFP be able
to say that 50 percent has to be at 30 percent and 20 percent has to be at 60 percent
or what the ratios will be, then that's what the RFP will put out. Now, when we put out
the RFP, then the builders know what the rules are, so that if they think they can meet
those terms, then they will apply for it. Now, what always happens is that once it goes
very deep, then the amount of subsidy they will require, they will come and tell you,
well, to be able to do this I need $2 million or $3 million. And in most cases when we
use the home funds, our total allocation is $3 million. So with only one project, you
can get maybe 20, 30 units, and that's all you can get in a year. And so that's the
reason why sometimes we've not gone as deep as it is. Butt agree with you, the needs
are much more at the 60 percent AMI levels.
Commissioner Reyes: Absolutely.
Mr. Mensah: And so whatever we can do to be able to bring in additional funding,
philanthropy money, that will allow us to be able to go very deep. I think that's what
we need to do. So I agree with you.
Commissioner Reyes: So what you're trying to say is that we could leverage our
money plus try to obtain additional incentives that they are proposing.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Reyes: Either from philanthropy, I mean, I haven't seen any
philanthropic money.
Mr. Mensah: Well, I'll give you an example.
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Commissioner Reyes: But it exists.
Mr. Mensah: 1'll give you an example. Microsoft just provided $500 million to City of
San Francisco to help them.
Commissioner Reyes: Can we get our hands into that pot?
Mr. Mensah: That's what we're trying to do.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay, if we can get our hands into that pot. But what we have
to do is we have to develop the methodology that our funds, coupled with any other
fiords that are available, will provide the type of housing that our people can pay.
That's it. It's very simple. It is simple. If we cannot offer them, 1 mean, it's going to be
based on County AMI and 120 percent of County AMI, which is $66,000, as median
income, we are doing nothing. We are just lying to ourselves and to the public. That's
it. That's it. I mean, and how are we going to do that? That's what we have to
determine. If we want housing, I mean, we want ownership, which I really believe it is
very important. We have to create the system of building it and also financing it,
which is very complicated. And that's, I think we should be working, your department
and with everybody else, should be working on it. And by the way, sir, thank you very
much for your job. I was -- I have done plenty of this, and I, not this type, but I have
done many, many, many analysis, and I know where we get the data from. You see, get
the data from the sources. And then the sources, unless there is no data, and you
create it, it is raw data, you have to create it. But you get it from the sources. And the
main source when we are dealing with economics is the Census Bureau.
Mr. Grinder: Thank you. Four quick points, and I'd like to go back to a couple of
Commissioner Carollo's, actually, very good points. In terms of leverage,
Commissioner, you're absolutely right. And this was -- this was the work of working
extensively with about 10 different departments in the City, looking at how do we
generate the maximum amount of leverage. Director Mensah does a great job with the
very limited funds that he has and the limited tools that he has. Collectively, the
decision was that this is the best vehicle to get that type of leverage. And also those
other types of sources that replace a lot of money that's drying up right now. Federal
and state money is just running out of town on affordable housing. It's not there. And I
don't know if it's going to be there. So to leverage the rationale behind the fiord and
the corporation as well as the -- what's the fastest, most efficient, best way to leverage
these types of funds. In terms of this study, it is not an academic ivoly tower study. We
are not ivory tower academics. We don't do that type of work. This was built on
exhaustive research. The input from over a hundred of the area's leading bankers,
investors, developers, and builders, all who do affordable housing, their direct input,
as I said, at least 10 different City departments looked and reviewed, commented,
gave us actually great comments throughout the process as well, and we had over 200
attendees at the various public events. Citizens came out and commented as well, and
we recorded those comments. This is built on input from the best professional sources
as well as the public already.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: How many, may I ask, how many community
events, public events did you do?
Mr. Grinder: We did one in each district to begin with and then we did another
follow-up open house in each district as well. So we did 10 different events over the
course of the year.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: And those 10 events were attended by 200 people
total?
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Mr. Grinder: We had, actually, 1 will get you the total numbers on that. We had at
least 200 people in the first round and then we had more people at the second round
in the open houses as well. We'll get you the total number of attendees.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Because my understanding, and I was not there, I
was not elected, but my understanding was that it was a handful of people that went to
the District 1 event, a handful.
Mr. Grinder: It started slow.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: You're counting on one hand, right?
Mr. Grinder: It started slow.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Okay.
Mr. Grinder: It started slow and we built more as word got out and we got better
attendance at each of the events. And we had good attendance at each of the open
houses as well. That was the second round. So we did two rounds ofpublic
engagement on this. One was to get their input on the plan, then was to get reaction to
the plan. That was the second round. So we not only had attendance, but then we
recorded all the comments as well. People left us comment sheets.
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A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING
THE PORTION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AFFORDABLE HOUSING
MASTER PLAN ENTITLED THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT &
TECHNICAL COMPENDIUM ("STUDY") SUBJECT TO THE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
UNIVERSITY ("FIU"), JORGE M. PEREZ, METROPOLITAN
CENTER (I) SHARING THEIR DOCUMENTATION ON WHICH THE
STUDY WAS BASED, AND (II) EXPLAINING/DEMONSTRATING
THEIR METHODOLOGY IN OBTAINING AND CALCULATING THE
DATA FOUND IN THE STUDY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
THE METHODOLOGY USED TO DETERMINE THE NEEDS,
ESTIMATES, AND PROJECTIONS FOUND IN THE STUDY
REGARDING THE CITY ITSELF AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT -
SPECIFIC DATA; DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ANALYZE
THE FEASIBILITY OF ANY AND ALL RECOMMENDATIONS
FOUND IN THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
AFFORDABLE HOUSING MASTER PLAN
("RECOMMENDATIONS"); FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO ESTABLISH ONE (1) OR MORE WORKSHOPS
WHERE THE FEASIBILITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS SHALL
BE PRESENTED TO AND DISCUSSED BY THE CITY
COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS EXPERTS FROM THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY AND WHEREBY THE
WORKSHOPS SHALL INCLUDE A DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT
ILLUSTRATES HOW THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION
MODEL, AS DESCRIBED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, HAS
WORKED IN OTHER MAJOR CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES.
ENACTMENT NUMBER: R-20-0031
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MOTION TO: Adopt
RESULT: ADOPTED
MOVER: Ken Russell, Commissioner
SECONDER: Keon Hardemon, Commissioner
AYES: Hardemon, Russell, Diaz de la Portilla, Carollo, Reyes
Chair Hardemon: Vice Chairman?
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you. I'd like to make a motion in the same spirit of
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla, bringing some finality, bringing some action.
Obviously, there's more to be heard and more to work out, but through a motion, and
if there's a second, it'll open up the discussion, I mean, the public comment, which
we'll hear from developers, stakeholders, agencies, and residents.
Chair Hardemon: I'm willing to open up public comment if there's no objection. I
mean, that's perfectly fine. That's part of what we said when we started in the
beginning. I know there was a lot of discussion from the community.
Vice Chair Russell: Just to sort of set the stage, because I think it'll really start to let
us know where each of us is on this issue, the motion I'd like to make is that we adopt
the Miami Affordable Housing Master Plan as presented by FIU (Florida
International University), with direction, including the finance corporation and the
innovation fund, with direction to management to analyze all points that are legal and
feasible, and for those that are legal and feasible, to bring us back an action plan, a
timeline action plan for implementation that we can then move forward. That would
be my motion.
Commissioner Reyes: Sir, I -- as much as I like the findings, I am not going to jump
into accepting the recommendation, all the recommendations, withoutfurther
analysis. You see, I am very cautious. Further analysis. I know that this finance
department that you want to create, I mean, that you are suggesting has been done in
other areas. I want to analyze all of them, the pros and cons, see what they have done
or not. What I will accept and will move, that we accept the findings, which is Phase
1, and that we further analyze each recommendation to determine the feasibility of
implementing them in this area. Because sometimes we try to import ideas or
departments from other areas, and given our different circumstances, we cannot
implement them. So, I will hold on that, on accepting the whole thing, and -- but yes,
what I want to do, I want to schedule working sessions. Working sessions where we
hear from the developers, what do you need? How much do you need to build? Given
the cost, the construction costs and cost Oland, how much assistance do you need?
Where the assistance is going to come from. You understand?
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Is there a second?
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Is there a second --
Vice Chair Russell: I just want to clarify to see if we can.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well we don't have a second to the motion.
Commissioner Reyes: No, there's no -- I haven't second.
Chair Hardemon: Let the -- can the Chair please decide whether or not we have a
second?
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Commissioner Reyes: Yes, I'm sorry.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: Right.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, you'll be the second.
Chair Hardemon: It sounds like you all are saying much of the same thing. And so,
with that being said, the Chair would second the notion, because 1 think that what
you said, Commissioner, and what the Commissioner recommended is about the same
thing. We can clarify it as we go along through discussion, but it's obvious that it's
about trying to decipher what is within this plan. It's something that is either feasible
for us, something that we'd like to do, something that we don't want to do, and for us
to really give input to the City Manager's Office regarding whether or not how we
move forward with the recommendations, of course, of the industry. You're
recognized, Commissioner.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Thank you. I don't think it's the same thing. They're
saying two different things, actually. I think what he's saying is to accept the findings,
and I believe even that, Commissioner, is a little bit premature. I think we need to
have finality is important, but so is due diligence, right? So, it's important that we go
through the process. 1 think the Mayor was clear, I think, I understood him correct
that he wants a workshop, that he wants input from developers and the people that
actually build houses. 1 think it's a better product at the end of the day if we discuss it,
that we have a sense of order here that we're going before any motion before we take
a vote on anything. It may send the wrong message that we're not in agreement and
that we're not getting things right. On the contrary, we're truing to get things right.
We're trying to be thorough and deliberative and thoughtful in our process. Andl
think perhaps today we can move the ball forward instead of trying to throw a 40-
yard pass, obviously Super Bowl week, let's, you know, get 4 yards here, 7 yards
there, first down, and we'll get there. But think it's important that we have all the
stakeholders, many stakeholders here that took time off from work, as the Mayor said,
to at least address this commission and give us some preliminary thoughts on this
study, which is really the base, the foundation of what we're going to do on affordable
housing, or at least we think it's going to be the foundation as we move forward. So
I'm not even ready to accept findings until I hear more. I really want to be
deliberative and thoughtful. I want to get it right. I want to do it quickly, but want to
get it right. So I think that we take our time that we have dedicated to this process
today to hear from some other stakeholders. That's my two cents.
Commissioner Reyes: Commissioner, as I remember, I recall we were here because
we were debating accepting the findings -- on accepting the findings. That's why we're
here. And we knew there was going to be a discussion. Now I don't think that is
nothing wrong with saving, listen, I hear you. We have your findings here, okay? Now
we're going to take it, we take over from here on. And we are going to have work -- I
want to have work sessions, and I want to hear from everybody, the people that really
are going to build. I agree with you, but I don't see anything wrong on just saying, I
accept, I mean, face you're (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We know, and it's been proven, in
my opinion, you see, let's validate, and I don't want to start taking so much credit, but
this validates what I have been saying from day one, you see. That the system that we
had implemented throughout these years doesn't work for the people of the city of
Miami, you see? Because we are charging, I mean we are allowing developers that
get benefits to charge rents that it goes -- it's totally above what people could pay
basing the calculations on accounting AMI (Area Median Income), you see? Which is
not the AMI of our residents.
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Commissioner Carollo: That is a motion that 1 can second.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Commissioner.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: You may get me there on accepting the findings,
but 1 really want to hear. I mean you make a strong argument, you may, get me there
to begin to move forward with accepting the findings.
Commissioner Reyes: Just accepting the findings, accepting the data.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I am not there yet, I am not there yet, but you
know.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: But 1 'm not, you're moving me there.
Commissioner Reyes: Well, I am truing to move you. Let's accept the data.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: It is not easy to move me, but you're moving me
there.
Commissioner Reyes: You know what, Mr. Chairman, what I want to do is I want to
set the record straight that that we -- those findings, they clearly state that our
residents, the residents, I mean, that we have a great shortage of affordable housing,
and that the cost of the affordable housing has to be in line with the AMI of our
residents. That's what 1 want to make clear and set the record straight. I mean, set
that record, you see. What we are doing accepting AMI that is not real for the city of
Miami, then we are not offering affordable housing. That's the only thing.
Chair Hardemon: I want to recognize the Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think we're a little bit talking past each other
because I think the findings can be in two components, statistical findings and
testimonial findings. Right, we've had -- they've had multiple community meetings, but
this is also a community meeting, right? And so we've had two meetings where the
public hasn't had an opportunity because we had the workshop where the public
didn't speak and now they're here again. And I think out of respect, for their time and
their participation, I think we should listen to the Commissioner's suggestion and
incorporate that into our findings because you're going to have testimony from
community groups, from the development community, from citizens that are
concerned and that are going to have -- yeah, they're concerned and they're going to
have -- they're going to give testimonial findings, testimonial evidence that we can
then incorporate into strategies, which I think is another component.
Commissioner Reyes: Sir, that -- I'm not saying that we will not hear from them. On
the other hand, I want their input, butt want to make sure that it is in line with the
needs of our residents.
Mayor Suarez: Sure. Of course.
Commissioner Reyes: That is my only concern. They have to be in line with the needs
of my residents.
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Mayor Suarez: Of course.
Commissioner Reyes: Are they willing, can they provide housing units that they are
going to be -- I mean that they're going to cost our residents 30 percent of their AMI,
of City AMI, which is $35, 000? You see? I mean, those are the things that I want to
hear, and what else do you need? You see? But ljust want to know that -- I mean, I
want to make clear that according to these findings, the AMI of our residents is not
the AMI of the County. And if we are going to offer affordable housing, it has to he in
line with the needs of our residents, not with the County. So that's my only point.
Chair Hardemon: You know, Commissioner, in regard to that, one of the things that I
think in the city of Miami we've had some issues with, and we talked about creating
funding sources to kind of get our hands wrapped around this, is actually making
housing available to the people that live here. So, what that means is a combination of
what Commissioner Carollo says, that we create affordable housing through
especially rental units. The community who lives in the neighborhood many times are
not eligible to live in those buildings. And I think that's a travesty of justice. And I
think that's part of the reason why there's been such low morale around housing, and
why we created the need to renovate existing housing in the neighborhood so that the
woman who's owned her home for 35 years but now can't afford to fix her windows,
roofs and doors, she can have that and remain in the neighborhood, pass that home
down to her child or her grandchild, et cetera. And so with that being said, we have to
-- for the housing that we're -- for the housing that we're developing, we have to
consistently think of a way to ensure that the people who live in the neighborhood
have an opportunity first to move into those spaces. And 1 know there's a motion that's
on the floor, so at this time I'm going to recognize the community for public comment.
So, if you're here for public comment, on the motion that's on the floor, you are
allowed to speak at any of the two lecterns. State your first name, your last name, you
may state your address, and we can move from there.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I have a question.
Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: It's public comment. Are they going to be limited to
two minutes again, and that's going to be it? Is that the workshop we're doing, the
two -minute comments --
Chair Hardemon: Public comment is --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: -- from experts and developers and builders.
Chair Hardemon: We can, I mean, public comment is two minutes, but as a matter of
we can hear discussion or if you have a question for anyone, you can ask what you
want.
Commissioner Carollo: Now and this is what I'm saying here. The majority of the
people that are going to get up and speak here, they don't live in the city of Miami.
And that's the point that I've been trying to make. I'm interested in building
affordable housing for the people that live in the city of Miami. And as much as I
would like to help those that live in unincorporated Dade County or other cities of our
county, in Broward, or the transplants that move here when they see an opportunity to
get good housing that our people can't afford, but we create it for them to be able to
afford it. I'm not interested in that. I'm not interested in changing the demographics of
our city, where those that live here, we're pushing out, and then we're bringing in new
people, the wealthy and beautiful people for these new so-called workforce housing
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that are not so workforce and they're certainly not low-income housing. And what
we're doing is changing the basis, the people of our city. And that's -- you know, one
person's opinion up here, but unfortunately we can't get into the address anymore
where people live, but just by the faces and some of the statements that have been
made from some here before, I know that the majority of people that are going to be
speaking here are not from our city.
Chair Hardemon: That's probably true. And the one person I do know for a fact that
lives in the city of Miami, besides the gentleman smiling to my right, is the gentleman
that lives to the left of me.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, this is one of my opponents, so 1 know he
lives there.
Chair Hardemon: May or may not. It hasn't been proven, right?
Horacio Aguirre: Former; former, former, former opponent. We're now working
together.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: But you were a nice opponent, so you're okay.
Mr. Aguirre: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: So I'll recognize you first, and then the gentleman to my left. You're
recognized, sir.
Mr. dAguirre: Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. City Commissioners, Horacio
Stewart Aguirre, and I am a proud resident of the city of Miami, 1910 Northwest 13th
Street, on the Miami River. I'm delighted to see that this proposal references the
financing vehicle because I first proposed that idea in April of 2018 and brought it up
at about 100 forums with your esteemed colleague, Mr. De la Portilla [sic], and
suggested this type of creation. The idea, however, was not really mine. It existed in
the 1980s and 1990s, and I'd like to suggest two names, Community Financing
Consortium and Homes for South Florida. And perhaps your staff can research who
they were, what their experience was. My recollection of having worked with them
was that: A) they were successful and they were staffed by bankers that were loaned
from major banking institutions and made it function that way. And another example
I'd like to bring up is something that was done by the Northern Trust Bank, and by the
way, I am not an employee of Northern Trust, but applause to them. About 20 years
ago, they bought up an entire neighborhood on US-1 and about Grand Avenue,
Commissioner Russell, maybe somewhere around there, and renovated what, about
50 houses, made them affordable housing. Very nice example of a successful
recreation. Thank you very much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: By the way, you're not the $150,000 man, right?
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized. Thank you, former representative Roy
Hardemon.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: It's 270, but that's okay.
Commissioner Carollo: I didn't want anybody getting the wrong ideas, since I heard
you were an opponent of Mr. Diaz de la Portilla.
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Roy Hardemon: Well.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Yes, he was a friendly opponent.
Mr. Hardemon: All right, friendly opponent, now it's my time. Former Representative
Roy Hardemon. You know, I look at this plan and, you know, ponder on page 5, a
fight for the soul of Miami. And I see a lot of division going on. And I look at the part
where we've got seven different communities that we're fighting with. And one -- two
of them is Model City and Little Haiti. very dear to my heart. And 1 say that because
in 2005, Jeffrey Allen, Commissioner Jeffrey Allen, appointed me to the Model City
Advisory Board. At that time, the City of Miami had not constructed one house. 1 took
the leadership of Model City, now it's called the Liberty City Trust, and we
constructed over 40 houses in less than 6 months to a year. We put something on the
ground. We made it happen. So to see Model City or Liberty City Trust not at the
table, not making no input in this plan, I got a problem with that. And we want to
continue to not only fight together, but work together to make sure that when y'all
split this money up, the Liberty City Trust, they need at least $25 million to actually
fill in those lots that the City of Miami tore down on 61st Street and 13th Avenue.
They tore down over 200 homes and apartments on 62nd and I7th Avenue, again, you
know, 61st and 13th, 62nd and 17th, all along the major corridors in our
neighborhood was demolished and the City of Miami yet to replace them. And I'm
saying give us some of that money. Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Can 1 make a statement to what he said, and ask him a
question, Chairman?
Chair Hardemon: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: Roy, what was the approximate average cost for you in each
of those homes?
Mr. Hardemon: When we constructed those homes under Palmetto Homes and
Patricia Dean, we went like $105, 000 per house, brand new.
Commissioner Carollo: How many bedrooms, how many baths?
Mr. Hardemon: We went from two -bedrooms to four -bedrooms.
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Mr. Hardemon: Two baths.
Commissioner Carollo: Right. How long ago was that approximately?
Mr. Hardemon: 2005.
Commissioner Carollo: 2005. Well, you know, maybe today it might cost you 150, 000,
more or less, maybe a little more, a little less to build. So, you're making any point that
we could build at an amount that, you know, would be affordable for our residents.
And you've also made a very good point of what 1 tried to point to before, and that is
the small builders are very important to us, extremely important, because we have
hundreds of lots scattered through the city. And the big boys, there's no money in
there for them, so they don't want to get into that. And it's going to be small builders
like your organization, many others around Miami, that will be the ones that we have
to assist and help to.1111 in all the empty lots that we have in real affordable housing.
Thank you.
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Willie Allen-Faiella: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. My name is
Reverend Willie Allen-Faiella. My address is 16745 Southwest 74th Avenue in
Palmetto Bay. No, I do not live in the city of Miami, but as director of St. Stephen's
Episcopal Church on McFarland Road for the past 18 years, the issue of housing is
extremely important to me and I care deeply about it. To our east, we have a
population of people who live in the park, and to our west, just blocks of my church,
as I drive through the West Grove, I see people being kicked out and -- kicked out and
displaced on a regular basis as that community continues to quote, gentrify. I am here
today representing PACT, People Acting for Community Together. We are a coalition
of 40 congregations in Miami -Dade, representing 50,000 residents. It should be noted
that at our annual meeting, the Metropolitan Center of FI U presented the master plan
to the 224 attendees, and it was overwhelmingly approved. It is one of the issues that
PACT has been working on and we have been involved in the creation of the master
plan from its very beginning. We are here today once more to ask the Commission to
adopt it. Please don't continue kicking it down the road. Specifically, we support the
recommendations in the master plan to to create an affordable housing finance
corporation and a new affordable housing innovation fund to be managed by the
corporation. Yes, there is financing. Yes, there is oversight. We urge the Commission
to approve a set of guidelines for this fund so that the finance corporation will invest
in the best projects that benefit all of us. The guidelines should prioritize projects that
are the most racially and economically equitable, that are resilient to sea level rise,
and that will prevent displacement. The Commission has a real opportunity here this
morning. As the prophet Amos said, let justice roll down like waters and
righteousness like an ever -living stream. Thank you.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Amen.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Norman White: I'll make this short and brief Good afternoon, Commissioners, Chair
Hardemon, good to see you again. Congratulations Alex -- Commissioner Diaz de la
Portilla, congratulations Commissioner Ken Russell. I read -- had this -- quickly read
this summary, well 82 pages of the extensive study done by FIU. I'm here representing
the Miami -Dade Democratic Black Caucus and the caucus president of the state of
Florida as well as stands with us. My concern is the interest in the African American
and the community. of Color diaspora, Haitian, Jamaican Americans, African
Americans. This is my interest. And so without being long-winded, you all know that
these communities are in dire straits. I mean, we're hanging on a thin string,
gentlemen. And so to put it bluntly, the African American community is in last place
when it comes to economics across Dade County. And so, my stake in this fight is to
make sure that the Commission allocates a decent proportion of money to the cash -
starved Liberty City Trust so that the small developers can have a play at this. You
know, I'm proud to hear so many concerns from the commissioners here, the chair,
Commissioner Reyes, Commissioner Carollo, and de la Portilla's [sic],
Commissioner de la Portilla's [sic], that you guys are fighting for what's right and
doing the right thing. And so, hopefully, you all won't leave us behind as we have been
over the past, what, 50, 60 years. And so I think that if we -- and I'm not blaming the
Commission, but I think that if things were done differently back then, we wouldn't be
in this mess. So, thank you all. And on the way here, I got some phone calls from some
lawyers who are hungry, to be quite frank, to file lawsuits and to stand in the paint to
do what's right for the community. So I thank you all for your time, and I hope that
we, when it's all said and done, that the community, I can proudly say that we did
what's right. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. You're recognized.
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Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Chair, ifI could get the speaker's name.
Chair Hardemon: Sir.
Mr. White: I apologize, Dr. Norman White, the Vice President of the Miami -Dade
Democratic Black Caucus.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Annie Lord: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Vice Chairman, Mr. Mayor, and all
commissioners. My name is Annie Lord. I'm the Executive Director at Miami Homes
for All. Our work address is 1951 Northwest 7th Avenue in Miami, but 1 do also
reside in Miami and born and raised. I'm just here to -- well, first of all, 1 wanted to
thank you for taking the time to quickly begin to discuss this important master plan
and also to attempt to take action today. We're, as everyone has said, we're in a
terrible crisis and the moment is now. We have incredible pressure and you've also
already taken action that tees up great opportunity that we could lose if we don't mow
fast enough. From making sure that the people who need it the most are served, to
ensuring that home ownership is an important element of the plan, to ensuring that we
depoliticise any actions that are taken to implement the plan. And in particular, I
wanted to express my support fbr the plan's recommendations to create both the
innovation fund and the finance corporation. In particular, I hope that you all will
create, of course, guidelines that guide the funding and the criteria for any projects,
and as has been said before, to put a preference on racial equity, on sea level rise,
resilience, and ensuring that we don't have displacement of residents who live here to
the greatest extent possible. Additionally, we're going to have to seed that fund. That
$85 million, if it's legally permissible, would be an important signal to other investors
from the philanthropic community, from the banking community, from national
funders. So I hope you'll consider that as well as a recurring source of revenue. And
finally, just to focus on that corporation, it's very important that you set up a board,
and I believe you've discussed it, Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla, it's very
important to set up a board that will govern that corporation and that will do it in the
most -- according to the criteria set out by the fund guidelines that you all would set
up. And hopefully you'll include expertise, required expertise, for the people who sit
on that board. Thank you so much for your time and I'd be more than happy to discuss
with you further at a later moment. Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Can I ask her one brief question? I'm curious of something.
Ms. Lord: Yes Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm only asking that because a lot ofpeople say that. When
you say you reside in Miami, are you talking about the actual city of Miami?
Ms. Lord: The city of Miami, sir; yes. Here in Coconut Grove.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, yeah. Well, that's certainly it.
Ms. Lord: Thank you very much. I went to Coconut Grove Elementary. Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Natalie Duran: Hi, Natalie Duran. My office is at 1815 Southwest 8th Street, Little
Havana. I'm coming in and speaking on behalf of small infill developers. I have right
now almost --
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Chair Hardemon: Can you do me a favor? Can you turn the mic towards your face?
Ms. Duran: Yes. Okay, better? I have had the pleasure of sitting down with some of
you and discussing some of my projects. I have now about 300 units just in the city of
Miami in the pipeline and an additional about 100 units going up in Miami -Dade
County, all with an affordable housing component to it. I'm here to discuss some of
the hindrances that have faced, and mainly with the City ofMiami and the kind of
public benefit program that have had to work with. There are plenty of incentives
that come with it, but when you put -- when you have to start building it, you realize
that everything is beautiful on paper, but you can't actually build it, right? For
instance, 1 have noticed that infill development with the affordable housing density
program doesn't really work on zonings that are T6 because you cannot build on
5,000 square feet, 34 units, and provide the parking, right? So you want to buy this
property but you can't build it so the benefit programs go out and out go the
incentives for a developer to even want to do affordable housing in these type of
transit zones. So that's one of the issues that have faced. Another issue is water and
sewer connections. So for instance, I'm -- most of my projects are in Little Havana,
and I've had to meet on several occasions with Water and Sewer, and Commissioner
Higgins from the County level, to mitigate some of these costs because I've had water
and sewer connections that have gone up to $700, 000 fbr an eight -unit building. And
you're like, what? So, for instance, Commissioner Higgins had offered me a parcel of
land that was abutting mine so that could create a more affordable -- a larger
affordable housing project. And when I did all my due diligence, I was like, thank you,
but no, thank you, I'm not paying $700, 000 for a water connection. So, you know,
these water connection fees are really making it difficult for small developers to have
to build because we are not going to supply the water line for an entire area of
Miami. Another thing that Ifind difficult is sometimes the City ofMiami has more
stringent building codes than the actual Florida Building Code. One of them being
like minimum unit sizes for one -bedroom apartments. I think that it should be a little
bit smaller, maybe for affordable housing. I'm not saying that it should be all of the
units, but am I out of time?
Chair Hardemon: Yeah, your time is up.
Ms. Duran: I'm sorry about that. Okay.
Chair Hardemon: It's okay. You can come through.
Ms. Duran: And then can I just do like two other things?
Chair Hardemon: Sure.
Ms. Duran: So another issue that I find is, I'll make it quick, is tax exemptions are
only provided for larger buildings of 70 units, so these small infill developers have to
pay property taxes on these units as if they were market rate, but the larger
developments can qualify for property tax exemptions. And truing to receive any type
of tax credits or bonds is extremely difficult for the small developer, so I think that we
need to recalibrate the zoning to help the smaller infill developments.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: That's some really good, informative information. I
appreciate it.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized, ma'am.
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Karina Ron: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice Chair, and
Commissioners. My name is Karina Ron, and I'm the Director of the Center for
Financial Stability at United Way of Miami -Dade. Our headquarters are located in
the city of Miami, and we advocate for the families of the city of Miami every day.
Thank you for taking the time to hold this important meeting and for all your efforts in
tackling this critical issue. United Way of Miami -Dade does support the
comprehensive work that has been completed by the FIUMetropolitan Center and its
partners. We agree that an affordable housing master plan is crucial to the future of
our city and our families. This particular plan offers sustainable solutions that
address a major barrier to prosperity that so many of our families are facing. In fact,
according to United Way's ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed)
Report, nearly 60 percent of Miami -Dade households are living in or are on the verge
of poverty. The latest report shows that for some households, like those headed by
single females, for example, close to 84 percent struggle to make ends meet. An
innovative, comprehensive, and inclusive housing initiative such as this one can
become the beacon of hope for so many of our families in order to thrive. And we
believe that the goal of growing the supply of affordable housing from 20 to 25
percent of all housing units by 2030 is bold yet attainable if we work together. Miami
is a city of the future, but we should not just be defined by our magnificent skyline. We
are a diverse community and that is part of the richness of the Miami experience, but
that diversity does extend to income levels and we cannot turn our backs on those that
are struggling with housing insecurity. A true test of our collective leadership and
vision is the ability to face our challenges head-on and meet them. We applaud the
Commission for proactively seeking to address the affording housing challenges in
our community, and we reiterate that an affordable housing master plan,
comprehensive in scope and bold in its vision, is crucial to the future of our city and
all of its current and future residents. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you. You're recognized, sir.
Jorge Jaen: Thank you, Commissioners, and thank you, Mayor, for allowing us the
opportunity to speak in front of you guys today. My name is Jorge Jaen. I'm a licensed
real estate agent. I'm also a real estate developer. I've been involved in affordable
housing for almost 25 years within the city of Miami. I'm born and raised in
Allapattah, so I know what the city is all about. The situation that we have is very
crucial. We're working. We have right now properties that are slated. We have skin in
the game. We're building today. I've been building, myself and my partner are
building in the inner cities for the last 25 years, as I said. And some of the situations
that we've been facing is there's been several issues where buyers can't qualify for
properties because the buyers that we deal with in the affordable housing range have
to qualify through the FHA (Federal Housing Administration) guidelines. A lot of
them don't have those 20 percent downs to put down on the properties. That's one of
the problems that we're dealing with, and I haven't seen that issue being addressed in
the scope of the information that's getting thrown around. The other issue that we've
been facing is a lot of the times we have -- we've seen where our projects get
hampered either through a slow process through the Building Department, or we get
stuck in environmental because there's a tree, a mango tree, that needs to be cut
down. Situations like that where you find it funny, but, you know, we got our money. I
don't ask, we don't ask money from the city, we don't ask money from anywhere. We
do build affordable housing. I could take each and every one of you to go touch the
homes and see the homes. But those are the issues that we see, and then when you
actually put money into and you acquire the land and you're paying for it out of your
pocket and you're doing your things and you start getting hampered, that eats up on
your profit. So what happens is we've been able -- we've had to scale back. Just
recently in November, the Commission took a great vote which was allowing the unity
of title, an issue that was addressed in the County years ago where you could actually
have, through the unity of title, have two individual owners own the same property.
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You have two different owners on each side. You know, that's a great step because
now that allows to have two property owners within one property. We weren't able to
do that and it took a long time. It took a process. We've spearheaded that issue since
2017 and it just got approved in November. One of the projects that we're starting to
slate, that we're actually going to build now, beginning -- we're trying to see if we
start on March 1st, is one of those first units that we're actually going about and
applying that new resolution that the City of Miami did. You know there's been a lot of
talk. We're small developers. And because we're small developers, we get hit the
hardest. A lot of people coming out here to ask for a handout, we don't want a
handout. We want the process to facilitate us, to allow us to build. There is a lot of
situations, there is a lot of property out there. We've spoken about infill lots that are
available. You know, the situation that you have, some of us get hit with situations
where you acquire a land, you acquire a lot, you're going to go for affordable
housing. All of a sudden that lot that you just acquired had 50,000 in overgrown land.
Chair Hardemon: Sir, your time expired a minute and 11 seconds ago. One second, I
want to recognize the Commission if they have something to ask you.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: How many units, George, do you build on average
per building? How many units on average do you have in your buildings?
Mr. Jaen: Right now we have 12. We have 12 units and in the process that we either
have designs right now for we're going to start four hopefully.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: 12 buildings?
Mr. Jaen: 12 -- 12 units what we do we build
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: 12 units in one --
Mr. Jaen: No, no, not one developer. We do is we go to infill lots. We spread it
around.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Okay. So in one infill lot, what's your average? 4
units, 5 units?
Mr. Jaen: In infill lots we do per year? We by to do it if we do 20 to 25 homes in the
inner city. We focus --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: That's not what I'm asking. One of those lots how
many units you put in that lot?
Mr. Jaen: Depending on the zoning, but right now we have two. The duplex, we have
a duplex lot that we're actually putting two units.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: You have duplexes, is what you have.
Mr. Jaen: We have duplexes, we have lburplexes.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Fourplexes.
Mr. Jaen: We have an 8-unit building that we have in design right now. It's with the
architect. We're finishing up right now. All of these are within the -- Mr. Hardemon's
District and within Allapattah, because we try to focus on the inner cities. Our
situation is to try to -- we need to find a way, a process where we can have the
process streamlined, where we can go ahead and build these projects. It's a need, I
see it, I see it in the individual's faces when you're actually about to close and these
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people don't qualify because they don't meet the small requirements of the 25 or 15
percent down.
Chair Hardemon: So, and I'm going to move on to the next person, but one of the
things I want, you know, to remind this Commission about is that if we have the cash,
then we can lower the barriers of entry for home ownership for our residents. Because
we can build and we can -- we as in either can be through community development or
it can be through another entity that's created, but what it can do is it can ensure that
there's the financing there to build those homes, mortgage those homes, allow the
residents now to pay a mortgage on a home without having to come up with a 20
percent or 5 percent, depending on where they are, you know, or 3 or whatever. But
nonetheless, lowering the barriers of entry so we have more home ownership.
Because at the end of the day, when they move into these rental units, they're still
providing first, last, and security. I mean, so that is a significant setback in trying to
purchase your first home, when you have to provide someone else first, last, and
security. So I think it's certainly within our purview. We understand it, and I think it's
going to be a part of what we're doing.
Mr. Jaen: Well, and I'll be really brief with this. The other situation that we have is
trying to -- when you're building affordable housing, sometimes you have to -- you
have impact fees, you have situations that we try to stay within a medium range. We
try to stay within a medium range. And I've worked very closely with George Mensah
for many, many years. And sometimes when you get hit with these tremendous impact
fees, or you get hit with other fees, it eats up on your margins. It eats up on your
margins. And that's what makes it a little bit difficult for us. I'm not a not -for -profit. I
don't get subsidies from anybody. This is how we do it and how it gets done.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Mr. Jaen: So we're a capitalist. So my company has to make money. If not, I don't pay
bills. But if there was a way of streamlining that process where everything becomes
easier, maybe one department, one individual that can handle that, that would be a
good idea for you guys too.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Jaen: And thank you. Thank you for your time.
Commissioner Carollo: My compliments, because where I see the future of real, real,
real low-income housing lies with guys like you and the city.
Mr. Jaen: Thank von.
Commissioner Carollo: The big boys, they'll give us a beautiful talk here. They'll put
all kinds of sweeteners on it. But at the end of the day, you ain't going to find the beef.
They want to make big, big bucks. Your margins, they're going to be smaller, and
you're going to fill in the needs that we need for the people that live here, not for those
who want to move into the city of Miami. So before you leave here, I'd appreciate it if
—
you could go by my office and give your name and number, because I would like to
meet with you and get a lot more of your ideas and how we could help because all
we've gotten is the beautiful political tweeters and clips from the administration of
how beautiful and wonderful everything is, but it's people like you that 1 hear from all
the time of what the problems are. And we have many of them that are preventing you
from being able to not only build more, but to provide a better price to a resident.
Because if we're killing you in time, it's something that should take just a few months,
if that. You've got to wait a year, a year and a half sometimes even more, you're
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going to have to raise your prices a lot more. And that makes it harder for our
residents. So I thank you.
Mr. Jaen: Thank von.
Aaron Lauer: Good morning. Thank you, Commissioners. My name is Aaron Lauer. I
am a pastor at Coral Gables Congregational United Church of Christ, and I reside at
1207 Malaga Avenue in Coral Gables. I'm here today to represent a lot of stories
from members of my congregation who live in the city of Miami, and there's one story
in particular that 1 want to tell you. It's a young Haan in my congregation who, over
the past two years, has had to move three times, first from Brickell, all the way out to
Kendall, and now into Liberty City, and he's having to move again. He has two jobs
and he lives with roommates and still he has had to move three times because of the
affordable housing crisis that we face in this city, especially for young people in our
city who we want to keep here, who we want to keep contributing to our economy and
our way of life. Through this master plan, our goal is to preserve or build 32,000
affordable housing units in Miami by 2023, and that is a serious goal. Because we
have a serious problem, I have sat here today and listened to each of you
commissioners talk about the concern that you have for your constituents, the love
that you have for this city, the way that you want to keep the people in this city here,
the people in your neighborhoods in their neighborhoods. And if we are losing 1,200
affordable housing units every year in Miami, it's because they are falling into
disrepair and we need a bold vision to move forward to help solve this affordable
housing crisis. So thank you for your time. Thank you for all of your work on this
because it's going to be a lot of work and we look forward to partnering with you on
it. And I've asked that you vote yes to move forward with this plan today. Thank you
so much.
Mileyka Burgos -Flores: Good afternoon. My name is Mileyka Burgos -Flores from the
Allapattah Collaborative CDC (Community Development Corporation) located at
1951 Northwest 7th Avenue. I am here to urge you to implement the financial
cooperation and the fund. This plan is a starting point to make Miami a leader in
housing equity and rise above our current affordable housing crisis by implementing
housing and economic development best practices. Miamians' inability to afford
rising housing costs affects the disposable income they have available to spend in
other expenses that stimulate our local economy. This takes a big toll in our quality of
life and the ability to save, purchase a home, or invest in a new endeavor. According
to the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies, between 2011 and 2017, the metro
area lost almost 40 percent of the rental units affordable to average city of Miami
households. I am an advocate for ownership over rental, and we should pursue both
avenues in order to meet residents where they are. In order to properly address the
housing crisis, we also must acknowledge that low wages are a major factor in our
regional economy. Many jobs in our main industries like tourism, healthcare, and
education do not pay a living wage. Unfortunately, Miami ranks amongst the worst
cities in the country for low wages. We encourage you to take immediate action by
establishing an affordable housing finance corporation and a new affordable housing
innovation fund to be managed by the corporation. You have laid the groundwork by
commissioning several studies and initiatives, including this one, to ensure we pave a
better future for Miamians. If we want Miami to be for Miamians, we must take steps
to improve housing affordability. Approving this affordable housing master plan is a
great start. Thank you.
Natalie Castellanos: Good afternoon. My address -- my work address is 2 Biscayne
Boulevard, Suite 1710, Miami, and I am also a resident of District 2, City of Miami.
Good morning Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice Chair and all the commissioners and Mr. Mayor.
My comments today on behalf of the Health Foundation of South Florida, we are
South Florida's largest health -related philanthropic grant maker. As the Policy
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Director of the Health Foundation of South Florida, I've been at the table with many
of these organizations for the past year working very hard and diligently to present
this master plan. We know how much time and effort and energy has been there and
as a philanthropic entity, we've also been at the table supporting this effort. There's
no question that affordable housing greatly impacts health. There is a lot of research
to support that. We know that the city of Miami's shortage of affordable housing limits
families' and individuals' choices about where they can live and makes it more likely
that low-income families will live in unsafe housing with physical and environmental
hazards or, like the gentleman before me mentioned, be moving around regularly. We
know that the impact on health is severe. People are less likely to have a regular
source of care. They're more likely to end up in our emergency rooms and those are
costs that we all face as a community. Given the connection between affordable
housing and health, we support the recommendations in the master plan to create an
affordable housing finance corporation and a new of ordable housing innovation fund
to be managed by the corporation. And we support that that board, the corporation
have a board that includes family, community members and folks from the
communities and neighborhoods that are impacted. Thank you.
Thaddeus Scott: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Thaddeus Scott. I live
at 3794 Florida Avenue in what is, I believe, the most diverse community of all the
communities that comprise the city of Miami. Diverse in the fact of not only ethnically
diverse, but also economically diverse. And the part that's getting harmed, the part
that's getting hurt, the part that's the most vulnerable to being diverse is the low-
income section of Coconut Grove here. As we speak, as I'm standing here today,
they're tearing down, they're demolishing some affordable, what could be affordable
units in my community. And they're building, and 1 mean more power to the
millionaires and billionaires, nothing against being a millionaire or billionaire, right,
or owning a million -dollar home or whatever the case may be, but what developers
are building right now in my community does not afford me to live there anymore.
And that's what's going to make my community, I believe, less diverse. That's going to
turn it into an elitist community. That's what it's turning into. So I think and I hope
and pray, and it was wonderful to hear Commissioner Reyes and Commissioner
Carollo speak of providing true affordable housing, true affordable housing so that
my community can still sustain itself. The first community, the first settlement of the
city, of Miami. It's a shame, it's a shame. I'm brought to tears sometimes just to see
how it's being wiped off the face of the earth. No one cares about the people that
actually came and built Miami before the drug trade, actually came and built Miami.
No one is hearing about those people anymore. So if you guys will please, please,
please take into consideration accepting or approving this Affordable Housing Master
Plan, I think it would help my community, those of us who remain. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you sir.
Dean Taylor: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Dean Taylor and I'm a
property owner along with my wife at 1370 Northwest 69th Street in District 3. I
attend Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in the district at 1301 Northwest 71st Street. I
am here today representing PAC and as a member of my church that we have families
that struggle to pay rent, especially those that have, through all the changes in public
housing in Liberty City. However, I'm also a previous director, my professional
interest, with respect to my professional interest, going back as far as the model cities
program with operated in Liberty City. Also became a director of the County's
Community and Economic Development Department and rising to the position of
assistant county manager, responsible for community development and housing areas.
Throughout my year, the way we think about affordable housing has changed a lot.
We can no longer focus on building massive units. This plan focuses on the sweet spot
between 50 -- between 5 and 50 units so we can preserve the integrity of our
neighborhoods. It employs innovative strategies like the, formation of the affordable
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housing finance conznzittee, which is a model that has been successfully used in New
York City and Atlanta, and the housing innovation fund. In respect to these strategies,
I want to address a few details that we feel are important to incorporate. As the
master plan says, the Commission should invest $85 million from the Miami Forever
Bond into the innovation fund. This will attract potential investors who will see that
the Commission is serious about addressing affordable housing. The funding
guidelines should set a limit on the maximum percentage of total funding that the City
is willing to put into a project so that the public dollars are leveraged wisely and that
all projects will be largely privately funded. From the beginning, the Commission
should also establish a dedicated recurring source of funding. This is a best practice
among other organizations across the country, and it will be critical to make sure that
the plan will be viable. The affordable housing crisis has only gotten worse as I was
working in this field, not better. But now 1 know that we can do better and with your
leadership this is all possible. Please vote to adopt the Affordable Housing Master
Plan.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
Luis Herrera: Good afternoon. My name is Luis Herrera, President of the Vizcaya
Homeowners Association. First of all, a master plan in Miami should be doing by
corporation. The portable house [sic], four years back, they were trying to come in
front of the City of Miami. They said affordable housing, affordable housing for the
people, they need the houses. No one yet they can be living in affordable housing
because of the cost of the rent or whatever they are going to do with it. 1 believe
before you apply for any kind of plan, master plan, talk to the neighbors, the
associations. They have to be changing the land use. The people, they need some
houses, but not the way they do the corporation, because you got use the -- what you
call it the -- the bonds, and we got to pay for it. The residents, we have to be pay for it.
So we need to have another way to do this job. So in other words, before you do any
master plan, make a big study around the neighborhood, what are you going to do,
because it's citywide, and they're going to destroy some property next to it that they
don 't need affordable housing. Thank you.
Mikal Hamin: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Chairman, and Commissioners. My
name is Mikal Hamin. Here representing PAC. I'm also an Imam, a minister at the
mosque at 5245 Northwest 7th Avenue. The mosque has been there since 1966. We
are a fixture in the community. We're a historical preservation there in the Liberty
City area. I also previously worked in affordable housing development. I was here last
week encouraging the implementation of the master plan to better Liberty City and to
take into consideration that there is a trust, as two other speakers before me, the
Liberty City Trust, that help and support minority -owned businesses as well as the
African -American community by which Liberty City Trust reside in, and that's Liberty
City. It is also -- pays attention to the redevelopment ofpublic housing into mixed -
income housing with the intention of keeping folk in place and also integrating
housing as to not concentrate poverty. Today I wanted to discuss the composition of
the proposed finance corporation governing board. We believe that it should be
comprised of people with the necessary expertise, including knowledge of affordable
housing development finance and construction, and it should also include people who
actually need or have needed affordable housing, who have lived the struggle and
know firsthand what needs to be done, people from our neighborhoods and other
neighborhoods where affordable housing is usually built. We believe people should
have to apply to be on the board and not simply appointed by the commissioners.
Applications should be reviewed by the Department of Housing and Community
Development and then approved by the Commission. This board will make an
investment -- an investing decision but should not report regularly to the Commission.
I encourage you to support this plan and vote yes. Thank you.
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Chair Hardemon: Thank you sir. You're recognized ma'am.
Kimberly Henderson: Good afternoon. My name is Kimberly Henderson. I'm
president and CEO (Chief Executive Officer) of Neighborhood Housing Services of
South Florida, an organization that has served this area for over 40 years. It's at 300
Northwest 12th Avenue, and I should also mention that I live in Little Havana as well.
We are a lender, a developer, and a HUD -certified (Housing and Urban
Development) housing counseling agency. We see about 1,500 people a year and
we're only able to get about 230 of them to home ownership. And one of the things
that we notice is that we pre -approve, as a lender, far more clients than actually go
on to buy a home. And so when I inquire to the staff, why is that? Well, they can't find
a house. Most people who are low and moderate income and those that you say, Mr.
Reyes, you want to help, they can't get pre -approved much above 100, 000. And as a
developer, I can tell you we can't build for under 200, 000. So we really have a major
issue and crisis here, which everyone knows. What can tell you is that we're at this
tipping point and this really interesting time both across the country and here in
Miami where there is interest from the private sector, from philanthropy, somewhat
from government as well. And when you look at cities that are winning at this game,
they understand that you have to -- you have to have leadership that pulls you behind
a plan, behind a framework and a way to go forward. And I think this plan is a good
plan. It may not be a perfect one, but it is a good plan and a very good starting point
for us to get behind. This will not be solved by just one sector. You need philanthropy,
you need the private sector, you need government, you need non-profit, we all need to
be in this together. I want to acknowledge Ms. Hallbrook, one of our clients, because
of something that she said to us. She was able to buy a home through our program
and she said, I feel secure now. I know that 1'll be able to afford to live here and to
stay here and I won't get pushed around. And so it's really important that we give
people this sense and this -- these opportunities. We'd be happy again as a developer,
we're also a certified development financial institution, we would be very happy to
share with you what our specific challenges are in moving the agenda forward of
bringing more affordable housing units to Miami. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you.
Gabriele Campana: Good afternoon, Chairman, Commissioners, and Mayor. My
name is Gabriele Campana. The company I represent is New Habitat. We have a
temporary office here in Bordeaux on Main Highway and I reside in Coral Gables. I
come here as a concerned citizen that see the affordability housing as a tsunami that
is coming to Miami, where we have a combination of real estate values that are going
up, income that is stable or going down, the water that is going up, construction costs
that are going up, and I don't see it clearly how we can solve it. I think the master
plan is a very good guideline to get to it. I've been in many of the meetings, at least
maybe 15. I feel it's very professionally done. All the research that was done,
background was excellent. And the workshops, and I went into the developers'
workshops, the real estate workshops, all kind of workshops, many people attended.
And I think it's very valuable. And here we're receiving it in a concise way, a
distillation of that information. So I'm all for it. And I want to put on the table one
additional information as far as like my background. I am a social entrepreneur and
I'm a ecological entrepreneur. And one solution that is mentioned in the roaster plan
that I want to expand on is ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Unit). I don't know if you're
familiar with ADUs, Accessory Dwelling Units. I bring it to the table because I see it
as a very good solution, not the solution, but one of them. And look at Los Angeles,
what they have done. They used to have 95 permits per year. They changed the law in
2017. It went up to 3,000. Last year, almost 6,000. It's 25 percent of the total
residential construction in Los Angeles. And Los Angeles is the number two least
affordable city after Miami. So they have some knowledge that I think we should look
into it. Accessory dwelling units, as you know, they can be attached to the main house,
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detached, in the garage. So there are many different options. The good thing is that
you can deploy them very fast. In Los Angeles, they give the permits in two weeks. And
again, a number like 7,000 to me is a good potential solution. Of course, not at the
cost of Los Angeles, that over there, those ADUs can cost like 350, 000, 250, 000. The
solution is pre -crafting these products with $60,000 to $100,000. And ifyou look at
the AARP (American Association of Retired Persons) that the Mayor had an interview
for housing for seniors, they have the ADUs as one of the top solutions for all groups.
So it's one that some part of the cities, they are allowed. We have 9,000 illegal ones
probably, but it is good to make it legal and to make it part of the economy and it can
complement what the big developers are doing, what the small developers are doing,
and what the mom -and -pops can do as ADUs. So that's -- I put that to the table to
expand on that one.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you sir.
Mr. Campana: Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: You 're recognized ma 'am.
Danielle Blake: Good morning, oh good afternoon, sorry. Danielle Blake with Miami
Realtors. I want to tell you that one, our realtors are out right now rehabbing those
homes. We have 40 out there, so thanks for putting that together. And 1 also want to
talk to you about single family homes, excuse me, and condominiums. As of this
morning in our MLS (Multiple Listing Service), at 150,000 and below, you have 18
single-family homes for sale and 17 of them are mobile or manufactured homes.
Condominiums in the same price point, you have 182 right now on the market at
150,000 and below. Compare that to 150 to 300,000, you have 306 single family
homes and you have 1,362 condominiums. Out of those 1,500 units on the condo,
what is the issue? Why are they not being absorbed? And the issue is really your
financing. You have FHA, so you could come in with that. There are 9 buildings that
are FHA approved in all of Miami -Dade County. You know how many are FHA
approved in the City of Miami? Zero, not one. That's a loan program where you can
come with 3.5 percent down. What's your alternative? Fannie and Freddie. If you do
a full review through Fannie and Freddie, you could come in with 3 to 5 percent
down. That requires budget reserves from the association. Most of our associations
are not budgeting 10 percent of their annual budget to a reserve account. That only
leaves the option of limited or streamlined review. That means the buyer needs to
come up with 25 percent in order to purchase that condominium. Our buyers do not
have 25 percent to put down on those 1,500 units that are there today. This is the
crisis that we have. We talk about affordability and density, we are building more
multifamily. This is the problem that's going to continue. I got off a conference call
before I came here about how to fix this. How can we address this with Fannie and
Freddie, and I'll share it more with you later because I want to hit on just a couple
more things on the single family. We did a container home project in South Miami,
and to echo some of the small developers, the issues that we incurred were the sewer
lateral. Our first float came back at $48,000, second one at $30, 000, and our third
one at $20, 000. This is a 480 square foot home. Tiny house does not mean tiny prices.
Some of the architect engineering jees are the same if we built a 3,000 square foot
house as opposed to 480. So those are some of the things you want to look at with
your infall program. Also landscaping. There was excessive landscaping in the area. It
was 25,000 for the quote, which should have been 5,000 for an affordable project. So
those are some of the things you want to keep an eye on. And the last thing I'll leave
you with is what they call missing middle housing. How do you increase density
through duplexes, triplexes, quadruplexes without disrupting a neighborhood? You
put it on the outer perimeter. We have a speaker, from California who would like to
come and speak about that, and also ADU's is part of that study as well. Accessory
dwelling units. California prohibited local governments from prohibiting it. You can
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only regulate it. So what some of the cities did was pre -- do pre plans. You can pick
model A, B, and C and they built in those costs into it making it more affordable. So I
just want to share that information with you. Thankyou.
ChairHardemon: Thankyou.
Linda Smith: Good afternoon. My name is Linda Smith. Address is 15815 East
Bunche Park Drive, Miami Gardens, Florida. I'm here representing PAC as a
member of St. Philip Neri Catholic Church. I also spoke to you last week. Once again,
as a disabled Vietnam veteran, I fought for the services that 1 now do, and now a
proud owner, homeowner. However, many of my family members in Liberty City and
beyond are constantly struggling to pay their rent. Over the years, many of them have
been forced to move in with me. I look around at affordable housing in the city and I
often ask, affordable who? One of the reasons that we support this plan is because it
focuses on how much money people actually make who live in this city, which is much
lower than other areas in South Florida. Itfbcuses on affordable housing for people
that make 80 percent of that minimum income. These are also the kinds of people that
need to sit on the corporation board and help make decisions about what kinds of
projects should be built and where. People are going through or have been through
the same struggle and know what the community needs. Again, what the community
needs. I frequently use public transportation to get around the city, especially to get to
the City and County offices downtown to get to services. One of the reasons we
support this plan is because it's focused on developing housing near public transit
options. In fact, 1 took buses, the Metro, and a car to get down here last week and
again this morning because 1 believe in this so much. The Affordable Housing Master
Plan will benefit me, my family, my community. Please vote yes today. Thank you.
Andrew Lenahan: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Andrew Lenahan. I'm
here on behalf of Rebuilding Together in my stead as the Chairman of the Board,
address 3628 Grand Avenue. I also stand before you as a licensed general contractor
with First Florida, located at 31 Northwest 23rd Street in Wvnwood. I have spent the
better part of my career building affordable housing around the city', around the
county, and around the state. Within the city and county, we've built several thousand
units. I'm very familiar with the troubles and challenges of programs that help fund
adequate affordable housing in numbers that move the needle. We have extensive
experience with the Florida Housing Finance Corporation and their low-income
housing tax credit program, as well as neighborhood stabilization programs, home
funding, sale funding, as well as complying with Section 3, transit -oriented
development sites, very well versed in the challenges that face affordable housing
community, developers, contractors, and owners, tenants. And I've also seen the
challenges of keeping people in their homes. As I stand before you right now, we're
proud to have 200 volunteers gathered at Elizabeth Virrick Park on behalf of
Rebuilding Together, helping people stay in their homes. The simple common
denominator is not enough supply. And the simple answer for getting that is a
comprehensive plan that offers funding that can generate more supply. If we can get
adequate funding, we can put people in their homes in safe environments and do so
responsibly. We know how to get it done. We know how to develop and build at the
most cost-effective prices, the fastest schedules, and deal with the daily ebb and flow
of the difficulties in the system. We certainly appreciate that this is a difficult plan to
come up with and find comprehensive approaches, but we absolutely support its cause
and are looking to enable our residents cheaper, affordable, safer housing for many,
many years to come. Thank you for your consideration. I urge you guys to vote yes.
John Newcomer: Commissioners. My name is Dr. John Newcomer I'm the President
and CEO of Thriving Minds South Florida. You may know us as South Florida
Behavioral Health Network. We're the nonprofit managing entity funded by the
Department of Children and Families, as well as federal, state, and other county
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sources, to provide over $90 million in funding for mental health and substance abuse
services for the uninsured and underinsured in our region. There are approximately
300,000 folks in our region who have a serious mental illness or substance use
disorder. Each year, we can help about 50,000 people. Of the population that we
serve, almost 10 percent have homelessness as a complicating factor. We have
treatments that work. The problem is that when you don't have stable housing, it's
very difficult to get those treatments to finally lock in and succeed. And then we aren't
able to help more individuals. So I'll be brief. You know, we're very grateful that the
Commission is looking at this plan. It's critical that we come up with some solutions
Jroadditional affordable housing. We're especially, of course, interested in housing
solutions for our population, but we thank you for your support on this and your
consideration.
ChairHardemon: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Newcomer: And my address is, our address is 6205 Northwest 19th Street. That's
the location of the corporation.
Caroline Donaldson: Good afternoon. My name is Caroline Donaldson. I live in
Miami Lakes, but my heart really is in Coconut Grove. I grew up in Coconut Grove
and continue to worship there at Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church, which is the
oldest black Baptist church in Miami. Today, however, I'm going to be speaking on
behalf of GRACE (Grove Rights and Community Equity). And GRACE is the Grove
Rights and Community Equity, Inc., which is a coalition of the Coconut Grove
churches in West Grove, civic groups, non-profit organizations, small business
owners, and also the homeowners and tenants there. And certainly one of our primary
goals is the -- is equitable economic development. However, we address this
Commission today in an effort to show our support for the efforts that have been taken
on by FIU in putting together an affordable housing master plan, which we feel is so
needed by the City of Miami. But it is our hopes that we do not lose sight of some of
those communities that are severely suffering from things like gentrification, which
Coconut Grove has experienced now for a number of years, to the point that you
really don't recognize what used to be the Grove, or specifically the West Grove. We
also ask that in these efforts you also take into account, and it has not necessarily
been clearly stated, which I think is part of the reason there's such a debate around
affordable housing, but the ability to protect minorities, I'm speaking specifically, on
Blacks, but protecting those minority homeowners that are at risk currently of
eviction, displacement, and also resegregation from certain communities. I also ask
that as we look at this comprehensive plan, we also take into account that there is
some need for restoration of rights for some individuals that have already been
wrongly displaced. There are people that have been moved from their communities
and would like to get back in their communities, and this affordable housing in
various formats might enable some of these individuals to do it. And I also really
plead with the Commission, as we put together a comprehensive affordable plan, that
we also take into account the preservation of our communities and the culture within
those communities and the history. Let's not lose sight of the history that some of these
communities bring to Miami. Thank you.
Jim Fried: Hi, Jim Fried, 555 Northeast 34th Street. The city of Miami needs more
affordable housing units. We all know that. As some of you might know, we have over
500 units of affordable housing at Northeast 54th Street in the Buena Vista area.
These units have been in Miami -- these units have been occupied for more than 50
years, but your Planning Department is recommending the destruction of all of these
units to be replaced by up to 3,000 market rate units. That means the rent is going to
go from $1,250 a month to over $3,000 a month. Please direct your planning
department to protect our inventory of affordable housing units. Please do not make
our terrible situation worse. Thank you so much.
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Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Albert Milo: Good morning, Mr. Chair. I guess good afternoon now. Albert Milo,
President of Related Urban offices in 444 Brickell Avenue. As someone who was born
and raised in the city of Miami, this is obviously an important topic that continues to
get discussed and unfortunately is not getting any better, right? Since I started doing
affordable housing over 20 years ago, it's continuing to be a bigger, bigger, bigger
problem. But on the plan itself I think the plan is not, every single idea in that plan is
not an idea that is necessarily, going to work to its intended purpose, but at least it
sets a blueprint for you as the Commission and the Administration to try to work
towards. But I do want to focus on certain aspects of it that I think are important
because 1 think it was Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla said, you know sometimes,
and though the plan is ambitious and that's great, you also you know need to, in order
to score a touchdown you need to score first downs a lot of times first, right? So you
have to move those chains. And there are some things that are in that plan that think
could help you guys do that. I couldn't agree more with you, Commissioner Carollo,
and it might be surprising to this board to say, but main solution to this problem is
small builders. You have empty lots in every single one of your districts throughout
the city that the small builders are the ones that can tackle that problem. 2 units, 4
units, 8 units, 20 units. You know, that is a product that is that is simpler to build, less
expensive to build, and therefore more -- can provide more affordability. However,
however, you have a very, very unfriendly process for those builders. Your process,
and they touched on it in the plan, your permitting process in the City of Miami is
probably the most unfriendly process that there is. So, if it is difficult for us as larger
builders, it is almost impossible for small builders to do what they have to do. You
heard from a few of them today. It is impossible for them to wait because they are
truing to invest their money and the biggest thing that investors need are
entrepreneurs like those small developers that you heard talk before. They need
certainty. Certainty of what? Certainty of the outcome. You start the process, you
have no idea when you will finish the process. So they have a bid from one of their
general contractors, they think they're going to build a house for $80, 000, $90,000. It
takes them a year and change to build a permit. Construction cost goes up. They have
the challenges of infrastructure. Their deal can't get built anymore. They have no way
to make it up. Why? They have small projects that have no economy of scale. Can we
absorb that sometimes? Sometimes. Why? Because we have a larger project to be
able to take the hits. Doesn't mean that the hits don't hurt, doesn't mean that the hits
don't hurt affordability. They are just as important. So one of the lowest lying fruit
that this Commission can take is let's codify. Let's put an ordinance in place. Let's get
permits that are truly affordable and developers that are going to sign affordable
housing covenants of all sizes to say we will give you a permit in this amount of time.
You know, let's start construction when they have financing or we bring other
financing. Because yes, ultimately it's about production. You need to produce units.
You won't solve the problem without production. You need to preserve units, and
that's a cheaper approach. You need to help homeowners stay in homes. That's one of
the things in the plan. But you need to produce units. You can't produce units if you
can't start, and you can't start without permits.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Milo: I mean, it is the most, the biggest impediment that we have for production
of affordable housing. Separate from leverage, separate from the loophole, those are
all things that you'll have time and the devil's in the details to chime into, but you've
got to get out of the gate, and you can't get out of the gate without a permit.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner Reyes has the floor.
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Commissioner Reyes: Milo, I understand clearly what you are saying.l know that the
permitting process is a mess. I have encountered that with constituents that have come
to my office because not only building, not only building, establishing a business.
Establishing a business, it takes, it has taken over a year for a restaurant to open. And
most of the people that are processing those, and I don't want to, I don't know if it is
the system, if it is the culture, I don't know what it is. But when we established our e-
permitting, it was supposed to expedite every type of permit. And I have seen that the
feedback that I have received, it is working a little better, but not as it should be
working. And another thing that 1 would like to ask Mr. Mensah, don't go away, man,
Okay, you're sneaking out, right? You were going to eat? Don't you think that we're
hungry also? Okay, let me ask you something. A long time ago I asked you for an
inventory of all the land that we have available, all the empty lots that the City owns
throughout the city of Miami. I got, there's plenty of them and it is true. But how do
we engage or try to inform developers, small and big, that that land is available and
we are willing to do a partnership with them and provide all the incentives that we
can so they start building there?
George Mensah: Commissioner, we've done -- typically when we have the land,
typically we do RFPs. And we've done probably about 5 RFPs in the last 10 years
about all the lots that we have. And the issue is that whenever you do the lot, for
example, if somebody comes to you for a lot, they have to show that, one, they can
build it, two, that they want the building to be affordable to somebody in the
community who makes, we use 80 percent of median income. And I think the issue that
we've been having is that when the applications come in, first of all, there are some of
the lands that nobody applies for. We have a lot of them like that. And there are some
that when they apply, they are not able to show that when they build it, somebody in
the community can afford it. And that's been our issue.
Commissioner Reyes: Are you offering the land as a partnership with the City of
Miami at no cost, or you are charging for the land?
Mr. Mensah: No, it's zero. We don't charge for the land.
Commissioner Reyes: You're not charging for the land. Okay, well, we have to make a
better effort.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, we have to.
Commissioner Reyes: And, Mr. City Manager, this complaint that Mr. Milo was
expressing about permitting, it's not only at the -- I mean, at the larger, I mean, it's
not only faced by the big builders, it is faced by small builders. Even people that are
going to build a house, a single family home, they are get -- and they are bottlenecks
that some of them we cannot control within this term. But planning and zoning, we
can control. And that's a bottleneck right there, and I had that complaint many, many,
many, many times. And we have to do something. We have to change the culture. That
the culture is, we are here to serve. We are here to promote development. We are here
to promote housing. And we cannot do it without the help of those departments that
are responsible. And they could expedite the process, or they could drag their feet and
it would be unbearable for some of'those small businesses, particularly business
people that rent a place and they spend -- I know a guy that in order to opera a
restaurant in downtown Miami, that person has lost close to $100,000 in rent because
he hasn't been able to get the permits. And it is, I mean, not only that, they get some --
every time that they bring the permits, they send them with some request, I mean, you
have to do this, it faxes, he sends it back, and then he receives it back. My God, see?
So we have to promote business development and also construction. Thank you, that
was a good point.
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Mr. Milo: Can I just chime in one more thing, Commissioner, please, on just hack on
this permitting issue is that the E-Permit is helping and it is helping because it allows
you to use technology and do simultaneous reviews, right? So if you need 10
departments to review your permit and you submit them electronically and all 10 can
look at them at the same time, that inherently helps. However, it is not the end all, be
all. What you need to do, and there was a time, I guess, when I started doing this, you
know, there used to be a system where there was, and I think there might be
something in the books to truly help expedite affordable housing projects. That doesn't
really happen. So unless --
Commissioner Reyes: Should 1 flag them? Just flag the affordable housing? Is that
legal?
Mr. Milo: The flag -- there used to be like a little green paper or something on part of
your plans, but I think what you really need to do is you need to codify the issue. You
need to have an ordinance that says, and if that requires dedicated staff from the
departments to review the permits in a joint setting, what does that mean? Yeah, you
can submit them electronically, but if have 10 reviewers, then let's bring the 10
reviewers with the architect and engineering team and the development team. Let's sit
at the table. Let's talk about the comments. Let's give a feedback time for the
developers to come back. Let's bring those plans. Let's sit around here. Everyone look
at the plans and let's walk out with approvals. You know, it has to be a true joint
effort. Without that, you can have great plans.
Commissioner Reyes: Mr. Manager, are you taking notes?
Joe Napoli (Deputy City Manager): Yes, Commissioner, I am taking notes.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Chair Hardemon: You are recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: What for? So he can take it in Cooper City with him?
Chair Hardemon: You are recognized, sir.
Francois Alexandre: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the rest of the
commission. My name is Francois Alexandre. I live at 120 Northeast 78th Street.
There is a statement that says it is better late than never. So, I would highly urge,
given the fact that I have not really read the entire master plan that has been
produced by FIU, but just coming here and I was able to listen to some of the
presenters and the bullet points they presented. So I highly urge you guys to adopt
that plan. And I like the fact that when this presenter spoke, it is a master, it is a
housing master plan, but first and foremost it's also an economic development plan
that we sorely need. I know that you all have heard that our community is the fastest
gentrified community, that's Little Haiti, (FOREIGN LANGUAGE) and prior to
Magic City, prior to the SAP (Special Area Plan) approval of Magic City, it was and
it still is the fastest gentrification community. So with the leadership of Keon
Hardemon, Chair, Commissioner Keon Hardemon, you also created a Little Haiti
Revitalization Trust to help mitigate the process of affordable housing and economic
development plan. At this point in time, there is no money in that trust. So I also
would like to have a motion that you guys, in the process with the bond money or
whatever else money that you guys are going to be allocating to affordable housing
economic development plan, that the Haiti Revitalization Trust also gets a percentage.
Thank you so much.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you, sir. Hello.
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Leonie Hermantin: Good afternoon. My name is Leonie Hermantin. Pm with the
Haitian Neighborhood Center, Sant La, as well as Concerned Leaders of Little Haiti.
As Francois said, Little Haiti, first of all, let me thank you for this process. It's been
fascinating to hear it from the perspective of the community, the challenges that we
face as a community in terms of housing, as well as the challenges that developers
face. It's been a real interesting learning experience just sitting here. But what I'd like
to say is that we support the FIUs -- the housing plan. We also support the housing
corporation and we would like to echo some of the concerns made that this
corporation be something that is depoliticized and truly inclusive of all the
communities represented so that you all can -- will know that you have left a model
for hardworking people, people struggling to pay housing. You will be creating a
national model, and that will be a source of for all of us to know that the City of
Miami can be looked at as one of the cities that has created a model that supports the
rights of hardworking people to live in dignity. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: Thank you very, much. Seeing no other persons here for public
comment, I want to close the public comment period at this time. Vice Chairman, I
know you had a motion that was on the floor that was seconded. Can you repeat the
motion so that everyone understands exactly what the motion is before we vote or
have any more discussion?
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for everyone
who spoke. 1 don't believe 1 heard a single voice out of the dozens who spoke that said
let's hit the brakes or keep, you know, trying to figure this out without taking positive
action today. So my hope is that this motion gets support to send a message that we
are on the track, we are putting this train on the tracks, moving it forward, and we
will eliminate the parts that are either illegal or unfeasible as we go. We obviously
don't want to accept that. But to accept the plan and give direction, the motion is to
accept the plan and give direction to our Administration to come back with a timeline
and action plan for the legal and feasible parts of this plan to be implemented as soon
as possible.
Commissioner Reyes: Mr. Chair? I mean, I cannot support to accept the whole plan. I
mean, because I think that before you accept the whole plan we have to determine if it
is feasible or not, and analyze each part of the plan, and all the -- the components of
the plan, like the financial department or whatever it is. What I could have said and I
would modem that motion, that we accept the first phase, the data on the first phase,
and that no further action could be taken unless it comes back to the Commission,
without Commission approval.
Chair Hardemon: So, if I may, as I always understood the motion, it was to accept the
data.
Vice Chair Russell: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: As far as this was necessary, and the distinction I think is
prominent. And so to accept that data, one. And then two, have Administration, as you
put it, to look at the plan that was presented and to come up with what they believe is
feasible or not feasible. Basically bring it back to the commission for us for further
consideration because it's going to need to be implemented. We need to understand
how much time is going to be needed for it to be implemented, and what should be
implemented, and then this board makes a decision about what we do moving
forward. You're recognized.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I'mstill hearing two different things. He moved to
accept the plan.
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Chair Hardemon: That's why I'm trying to say to him that 1 agree about the data --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I cannot support what he's --
Chair Hardemon: As the seconder --
Commissioner Reyes: The data.
Chair Hardemon: I'm saying that if you can aniend it, so you include the data.
Vice Chair Russell: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, if I could. I'm very open to
amendments because 1 want us to have a consensus moving forward with a positive
action and message today of some sort.
Commissioner Reyes: Okay.
Vice Chair Russell: So, if we're not ready to move forward on the entire plan, and I
certainly did not say let's move forward on the entire plan, it's to accept the plan but
weed out the parts that are unfeasible or illegal. If there's policy differences that we
don't like about the plan, that's something we should definitely get on the table as
soon as possible.
Commissioner Reyes: I --1 don't know if the word plan kind of scares me, because
that could be interpreted as the whole thing. I want to analyze this very, very, very
deep and see what is feasible, what is not feasible, and let's accept the data.
Vice Chair Russell: Accept the data.
Commissioner Reyes: Accept the data and any further action has to come to the City
Commission for approval. And we get -- I mean we direct the Administration to
establish workshops that we can -- each implementation of the plan could be
discussed and it could be decided by us if it is feasible or not and with the help of the
professionals.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: That -- may I ask Commissioner Reyes a question?
That would include the AMI district specific data?
Commissioner Reyes: Well, the --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: That's in there.
Commissioner Reyes: The AMI is in the data. We are accepting their findings about
the City AMI.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: There are also findings by district AMI I think
Commissioner Carollo --
Commissioner Reyes: Yes, and he has a valid question, but all those data, I mean
none of them it is higher than the real -- I mean what the Census Bureau claims that is
the city of Miami, which is 35,000. They're claiming that there is between 21, 22, and
31. I mean, it is not higher. What my concern is that if we keep on building and
offering the supposedly affordable housing using, I will say, using the data that
provides the County as the AMI for the whole county, which is not the real, I mean,
we are not doing the work that we want to do. You see and I will accept only the data,
and the data is, it says, for example, Flagami, what is the AMI of Flagami? Between
21,000 and 31,000. It is. It is very close, you see. And the areas as Liberty City is not
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even 22,000. I had -- I presented once a report here that says that it's around 18,000,
you see, the AMI for -- and it moved, but it is not as high as the County. What I
wanted to do is stop anybody from using county when we are doing -- I mean, we are
doing affordable housing in the city of Miami.
Commissioner Carollo: The issue, if I may, Chairman, is not with the census data.
The census data is what it is. But as I see it, the issue is with how the data has been
calculated and used. They made a statement, but I haven't seen anything in numbers,
in writing, that backs what they're saying. I want to see how they came to these
numbers, because to me, based on everything that we've seen, it's impossible that in
your district, Commissioner Hardemon, in Diaz de la Portilla's District, in my
district, we have the same medium household income number for renters.
Furthermore, it never was answered how there is such a discrepancy from the 20,584
units that they're talking about that are 50 years or older in your district
Commissioner Hardemon to the one that comes out by using their same 60.6 percent
numbers that is 25,164 in your district. You have close to 5,000 difference there which
brings it you know nearer to 20 percent, actually probably around 18 plus, 19 percent
difference. And that's in the data. Beyond that, the numbers that we're given here, I
mean this is not a monopoly game that you can throw hundreds of millions this way, a
couple of billion the other way. The numbers don't add up to what they're giving us.
How can the public be told that in 10 years we're going to come up with 32,000 new
units. And in their own numbers they've given us, even without getting into a lot of the
exaggerations, they're off with a gap of somewhere between $3 and $4 billion,
depending on, you know, what it is. And that's not even including some of the other
exaggerated numbers. So 1 go back to the City Attorney and ask her, Madam City
Attorney, can you use these stats to validate the bond without us correcting any
mistakes that there might be in the data that they have presented to us and the
numbers that they presented to us.
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): At this time, what we used as the basis as one of the
evidence for the bond validation was the needs assessment and technical
compendium. That included lots of raw data. There is a discrepancy that you pointed
out.
Commissioner Carollo: There's several discrepancies, they're serious.
Ms. Mendez: Based on how FIU extrapolated that data or calculated that data. So,
does FIU at this time have an answer as to why that was potentially a scrivener's
error or do you know?
Commissioner Reyes: Mr. Chair, from what -- I think that Commissioner Carollo here
wants to take a look at the methodology that they used for the calculation. Do you
have the methodology that will satisfy, I mean, will show how you reach those
figures? If you have the methodology, let us have it.
Mr. Murray: Yeah, I mean, the U.S. Census data is pretty straightforward, pretty easy
to navigate. It's the same data, like I said, not only would we use it, but any other
local government, bond companies, lenders, developers, marketing people, we all use
the same data. It's not rocket science, to tell you the truth. The only difference here is
that in the case of the city, and it's really important for you and certainly for all of us,
to understand what -- how the neighborhoods and districts break out relative to the
city, at large and district to district. But that's all U.S. Census data and it's provided at
a number of different levels, citywide, census tract and block group, and that's
essentially what the data.
Commissioner Carollo: Then you should not have any problem then, sir, in providing
us in writing with how you came with the U.S. Census numbers to this data that you
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provided to us. Give me your working numbers and how you came to that so that we
see it. Because this is beyond the $110, 000 that we pay you. This has to do that if
we're using erroneous data to validate these bonds, the City of Miami's got two major
strikes against it. We get a third strike with the Securities and Exchange Commission,
you know what? Game's over. Three strikes and you're out. So.
Chair Hardemon: If I may?
Mr. Murray: Well, we --
Chair Hardemon: Ultimately, before you answer the question, we understand where
you get the numbers from. And so what the Commissioner pointed out was something
that is not necessarily nefarious, it is not necessarily incorrect. It may be what it is,
but what we're requesting is for you to at least give us how you arrived at that. If, in
fact, it's a document, you can direct us to the website and it says this is the
information, we plugged it in, it is correct as per the census data. Because I will tell
you, in my neighborhood, they avoid census people. I think that's something that is
typical of a lot of us. In neighborhoods that are immigrant heavy, they avoid census
people. And so it wouldn't surprise me if the information or the area median income
in my neighborhood is not reflective of what it actually is. It's just like talking about
the unemployment rate. In our communities, it is typically not reflective of what it
actually is. And so I just want you to do that. And the reason being is simply because
the information was relied upon by our City Attorney's Office through our bond
validation. I want to believe that our bond validation, because it went through much
scrutiny, is something that we can stand on so that we can go out and by to do good
for the city of Miami. It is by no means me, as an individual commissioner here, do I
want to invalidate our bond or cause doubt as to our bond issuance. This is probably
one of the best times in the City of Miami's bond rating history that we have to
actually do this. So it is imperative that we just address the questions that the
Commissioner has and then we can come back and finish this process. You can
respond. I want to give you an opportunity to respond if you have a response.
Mr. Murray: Well U.S. Census data, just to be clear here, is standard baseline data
that everybody uses. And you wouldn't prepare a bond, you wouldn't prepare to do
anything, including a market study in terms of its release, without using Census data.
It's baseline data that everybody can agree upon. It's when you start mixing other
data with that, that's when you can create some really strange kind of calculation. But
it's, remember this too, the U.S. Census estimates --
Chair Hardemon: Before you continue, did you do that? Did you mix other numbers
with the U.S. Census data?
Mr. Murray, • Never, never, never.
Chair Hardemon: Commissioner, you're recognized.
Commissioner Reyes: Chair. You see, I know you can have many questions about how
the census, the federal government, developed this data. You can be arguing here
until tomorrow about if the data is correct or not correct because you claim, I mean
you know somebody that is making 13,000 and you claim it. It is median. It's median.
There's half of them is making more and half is making less. It's what it is. And it is
the same measurement that is used by government agencies, including HUD (Housing
and Urban Development), to assign funds to the area. They don't use any other
measurements. The Census Bureau -- I mean when HUD is going to assign the funds
for of fordable housing to Dade County, what they look at is the median income from
the Census Bureau. That is what is used by every governmental agency. Now, Madam
City Attorney, the question is very valid, what Commissioner Carollo said, but since
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there is no other data, and that data is used by even the federal government, there is
no problem.1 mean, there can be no problem that we are using data that it is not --
that we are creating data in order to validate, because as long as you have the -- I
mean, proof that it is the Census Bureau, there is no other type of data unless you go
household by household and you create the data.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm not asking for that, Commissioner. And you are, I think,
correct, even though I understood what Commissioner Hardemon was saying, and we
all did, that the census data, as I said before, is the census data.
Commissioner Reyes: It is. That's the only thing there is.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm not questioning that. What I am questioning, though, that
has not been presented to us, I want to see 2 plus 2 equals 4, how you came to that.
I'm questioning the calculations and how they use those calculations to come to these
same exact figures in three of our districts based on the census data. And he's danced
around the question, I don't know how many times already, I want to see numbers. I
want to see their work on the raw data from the census numbers.
Commissioner Reyes: Do you have copies of the -- I mean the publications, the
federal government publications, which states that this are the median income fbr
those areas?
Mr. Murray: Yes.
Commissioner Reyes: Well, bring it over. That's it.
Mr. Murray: Yeah let me, let me be clear. There were two reports as part of the
master plan, as was referenced earlier on. There was the housing needs assessment
technical compendium, which we shared with all of you, well, most of you, early on.
This was the hard data from the census. We had those assessments and we had all the
data that we brought to your offices, shared it with your staffs. Some of your staffs
actually did follow up with us and said, can we get a further elaboration, a
clarification of this data. So this was an ongoing process, not only that, but obviously
we sat down with the housing and community development staff and went through all
the data time and time again. So it's --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: How old is this data? How old is it?
Mr. Murray: The data?
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Yeah.
Mr. Murray: We used the most current US Census data at the time, which was 2017.
Ms. Mendez: 2013 to 2017, I believe.
Commissioner Reyes: I have another question --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Commissioner Reyes: I have another question, and it's just a simple question, which,
and excuse my ignorance. Mr. Mensah, when we ask for -- when we askforfunds that
are available for affordable housing, we have to include information and analysis of
the need. And this is why I said that let's accept the data, because this proves that
there is a felt need for funds to try to solve the -- we're not going to solve it, but try to
ease the problem that we have. And we have to send a report based on an analysis,
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you see. And the data that is going to be used is the census data. But nevertheless,
having said that, if everybody wants to see your methodology, I think that it is fair,
bring the methodology in and then everybody will be happy.
Commissioner Carollo: This is what I'm asking for.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, yeah, and I agree with Commissioner
Carollo on this and with you too, Commissioner Reyes, but she said -- the City
Attorney made a -- I heard you say the data is from 2013 to 2017.
Ms. Mendez: Right, it's 2013 to 2017 is the 5-year American Community Survey
estimate.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Right, and 1 don't know, I'm not in your world, in
your field, but is that data current enough? The way, the rapidly changing nature of
the housing market in Miami?
Mr. Murray: Well, that was the most current census data. We now have 2018, that
came out in December, as you know.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Right, that's why I'm asking.
Mr. Murray: That wasn't included in this plan.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: It was not included in this plan.
Mr. Murray: Not included in this plan, because obviously we started over a year ago.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Did you cross-reference anything with the Florida
Housing Finance Corporation? They have a study group. They did a great study that
I've read.
Mr. Murray: Yeah, yeah. And that's where I think the value added really comes in
because when we work with other municipalities, other counties around the state, the
question always comes up, well, the census, well, number one, it's based on estimates.
We all agree with that, we know that, but also a dynamic market like Miami or South
Florida, where if you are talking 2017 or 2018 data, and we have shown you the
charts and the tables how quickly the market is appreciating, that's not that data --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, that is my point, right.
Mr. Murray, • Yeah some of that data, we have real-time data that we have provided
you, but we don't mix and match. We layer. Here's' the baseline data, which is the
census, and this might be data that comes from POSTAR or some other, yeah.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Right, but you would agree that the 2018 data is
critical because of the tremendous appreciation that we've seen in property values. I
mean, just District 1 alone, I think I read 20, 25 percent over the course of 3 years. So
it is a rapidly changing market.
Mr. Murray: Well, on an annual basis.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Let me ask, instead of making a statement, let me
ask the question. Do you think it makes a difference to have 20 -- have you used 2018
data versus 2017 data in drawing conclusions?
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Mr. Murray: Yeah. There's not, on an annual basis there's not, the census will not
pick up on a market like Miami. We obviously want to show year to year, that's why
we do the trend analysis.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: So then the logical follow-up would be what picks
up on that changing market. If the census data does not pick up on it, then the data
you have is not an accurate measure of the market because it doesn't pick up on those
rapidly changing dynamics, right?
Mr. Murray: Well --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla:: So -- hold on, let me finish. So what measures do
you use to get to that -- to draw proper conclusions from available data?
Mr. Murray: Yeah, well, it's a really good question. What the census does for us, it's a
census, as a population and housing. We're only going to get income from the census.
There's no market data out there on income --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Of course.
Mr. Murray:: -- and occupations, things like that. What gets tricky, and that's what we
call the demand side of the equation, the supply side, we know that the census data
does not reflect market dynamics. We still have to use it because we don't want to mix
and match. So what we do is we base our affordability calculations based upon the
income within the census and what the census is showing as median rents and median
home values. But in order to make everyone understand, we also layer other input
into that in terms of whether it be the Miami Realtors Association data, you're
probably familiar with Reinhold Wolf, there's a lot of market data we introduce just so
we have another perspective on that.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: And that's included here?
Mr. Murray: Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Commissioner Reyes: Listen. We're going back and forth on this on data. I mean,
there is no other data. But now --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, there's always other data, Commissioner.
Commissioner Reyes: That's right. You have, I mean, listen, I used to be a consultant.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: You're an economist and you know there's other
data.
Commissioner Reyes: No, no, and I used to use the old sources of data, and I know
unless you go out there and you go household by household by household, you are not
going to have any other type of data. Now, I think that, and I stand by my motion, I
mean my amendment to the motion, that we accept the data and also providing and
subject to you bringing all the paperwork, all your methodology and all the backup
where you got it, but we have to get this thing moving, you see. And also, I want --
also, I want to direct the motion will include -- my amendment will include, to direct
the Administration into analyzing the feasibility of every single recommendation. The
feasibility to be discussed by this body and by experts on the feasibility of adopting
any of the recommendations. We are not adopting any of the recommendations. The
only thing that we are adopting, it is a true, finding that there is a need for housing
and that our neighborhoods and our population is poor, is below the median income
not only of a metropolitan Dade County, of the rest of the nation, I would say it could
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he among one of the lowest, one of the lowest in the nation. That's all. That's all. And
there is a need for housing. Now, you have made the recommendations that we do
this, we do whatever. Those recommendations should be analyzed by our
Administration. And even if I will suggest, or I think that I would require that we do
workshops in each one of the recommendations and bring outside people from the
industry, experts in the industry in finance, in construction, and everything. You see,
experts from the industry to come and assist you and us in the feasibility, on the
feasibility of each one of the recommendations. And also we like to have an analysis
of you said that this finance housing authority, whatever it is, that it was used in
Atlanta or some other places. Well, let's bring them and let's analyze the pro and the
con and all the literature that has been written about that particular agency. And that
is my, I mean, it is my amendment to the motion that was presented.
Vice Chair Russell: Mr. Chairman?
Chair Hardemon: Mr. Vice Chairman.
Vice Chair Russell: The mover accepts the amendment. Ready to vote when you are.
Chair Hardemon: So does the seconder. Any further discussion?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Chair Hardemon: You're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: For the last time, I'm not asking for a door-to-door study or
anything other than saying the following. The census data is the census data. I
certainly understand that. My concern here is on how that was used and calculated. I
have asked numerous times for that information here. I don't have it. They keep telling
me that they use the census data, but I don't have the simple information how they got
to that in three districts that we had the same medium household income for renters of
22,760, nor how they came to the number of 20,584 instead of 25,164 units that are
over 50 years old in District 5. The numbers in mind were minimal in difference, so
I'm not even going to bring them up. Now, what I want to see is the raw number, how
they came to that. I want to make sure that I don't have an intern that partied too
much after they unfortunately beat UM (University of Miami) in the football game,
and they weren't being careful in the numbers they were inputting or looking at. Or
that, you know, maybe you had an intern that, you know, felt overly stressed that
week, and they overdid their medical marijuana prescription.
Commissioner Reyes: They were trying it, right?
Commissioner Carollo: Didn't get the numbers right.
Commissioner Reyes: Was testing it.
Commissioner Carollo: So I simply want to see, based on the census data, how they
came to those exact numbers in three districts that while we have similarities, we have
major differences, economic differences, and at the same time how they came to such
a wide difference in numbers in District 5 on how many buildings are in 50 years or
older, in stock. So that is something that is simple. And I think that we have an
obligation that that would be settled, that we have that information in black and
white, clearly.
Commissioner Reyes: My amendment also takes -- directs you guys to bring all the
raw data, I mean to bring all the data and your methodology for us to analyze. If we
have, I personally have any doubt, I will -- can I call back the vote? I mean, can I call
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hack the issue and revisit it? 1 will, l promise that 1 will call back and revisit it myself.
So, hut what I'm saying is 1-- include that please in my amendment.
Ms. Mendez: And if I may, because, you know, pictures sometimes are worth a
thousand words and just a highlighted -- so Commissioner Carollo is specifically
showing two sentences in your District 3 analysis and your District 5 analysis that are
exactly the same.
Commissioner Carollo: In District 1.
Commissioner Reyes: In District 1. And the similarity between --
Ms. Mendez: But two -- right, so it's in three places, it's in three places, but the ones
that, District 3 and District 5 have two sentences that are exactly the same. District 1
has one sentence that's exactly the same. So, and I highlighted them for you here if
you want to look at them. And what he is trying to ask is how can three districts or
three things have the same exact medium income, and how can two districts for the
same thing have the same amount of units?
Commissioner Reyes: Madam City Attorney, I want to also add to that, add to that,
the methodology used to determine the need of the number of housing that is needed,
and then all the analysis that was made on the status, housing status in each district.
That's it.
Ms. Mendez: Yes, and I will have to re -listen to the minutes because since he used to
be a professor of statistics and economics, he was able to articulate that better than
we ever would on a document. But that's the -- we understand, everybody'
understands, it's the same raw data. We just want to know the methodology and how
you arrived at your calculations. So that's what he's asking because they're exactly the
same.
Chair Hardemon: And I'm going to recognize you sir.
Mr. Murray: And we can do that. The technical compendium itself has all the data
and a lot of the methodology laid out, but if there's points of clarification that have
been raised here today, we're going to go back and look at that. We'll provide you
with the raw data. We'll provide you with the Excel files if need be. I know some of
your staff have asked for that in the past, especially Commissioner Reyes's staff.
(COMMENTS MADE OFF THE RECORD)
Mr. Murray: Yeah. We'd be glad to meet with any of you. We already have met with
some ofyou. I know, Commissioner, you're new. but we have met and we'll be glad to
meet with all ofyou individually again. But we will get --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Have you requested a meeting from my office?
Mr. Murray. We met with Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Excuse me?
Mr. Murray: Your predecessor, yeah.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Yeah, but I've been here two and a half months,
sir.
Mr. Murray: Yeah.
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Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I mean, I was here November 19th.
Mr. Murray: Yeah, but the process --
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, hold on. Don't you think that, I mean, it's
February, 1st tomorrow. Don't you think that you should meet with me?
Mr. Murray: Well, we'd be glad to meet with you.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: I think it's a good idea and it's just my gut.
Mr. Murray: We'd love to be able to sit down with you like we have with other
commissioners, go over the data. 1 know we've met with Commissioner Hardemon's
staff and Commissioner Russell's and Commissioner Reyes. So, yeah, we'd be glad to
do that. But we will get this larger communication back to you that you've been
questioning relative to both the age of the housing and the rental incomes and the
methodology that you requested. A lot of it, like I said, is in the technical
compendium. It is very technical, but it appears that we need to do something maybe
on a one pager, two pager that clarifies some of these points and the exact source of
the data and methodology. We'll do that.
Commissioner Carollo: Commissioner Hardemon. Commissioner Reyes, 1 want to see
how your motion is dealing with two points. One, all these billions of dollars that are
unfunded, or is pie in the sky, including the 200 to 800 million of the proposed empty
home vacancy tax that they themselves have acknowledged now that they know it's
illegal, but nevertheless they put it in here. But does that, in your opinion, is that part
of the data that you're approving?
Commissioner Reyes: No, that's not part of the data. The data is at base of the need.
The need is the one. And also, I want to know, I want to know the, the methodology
that you used to calculate or to estimate that too. I want to know what, I mean,
anything that you took in consideration, how you reach those numbers. And you know,
I know that you have to go through a process, the process that you went through. I
want all your working papers and you can, you can, I mean, we might ask you to,
either you do it individually or just come here, and you will, I mean, explain all your -
- how do you reach those conclusions. And that's it.
Commissioner Carollo: Last but not least.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Next to last. I have one quick comment.
Commissioner Carollo: Well from me.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: The only thing that's definitely real here is our $85 million.
That seems to be the grab bag here. That certainly is not part of the data or anything
that we're doing.
Commissioner Reyes: No, no, no. You know, what we have to determine, and what is
important here, what we have to determine is how we're going to use those $85
million. You see, that is what it's really -- it's determining.
Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: Well, I mean, there's a reality here, right?
Commissioner Reyes: There's a reality.
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Commissioner Diaz de la Portilla: There's a reality here that the only thing that's
real, as Mr. Carollo said, is not the $300 or $500 million in philanthropic
contributions that you haven't identified. You didn't identify a single company that's
going to give us that. The only thing that's real here is this Commission, this
Commission will give up control of $85 million the voters in the city of Miami gave
the commissioners the right to allocate as they see fit because they are representative
of the people of the city of Miami. So it is basically taking 85 million and putting it in
a different bank account with different shareholders that were not the people that the
city of Miami voters voted for when they voted for the Miami Forever Bond. They
voted for this Commission, the commission of the duly elected representatives in each
district to allocate those $85 million. And that's the reality here. So this is a grab or
the potential shift of dollars away from this body, the duly elected body to a non-
elected entity, to you know, Florida House of Finance Corporations, will be Miami
House of Finance Corporation, appointed by us and by the Mayor, but still taken
away from the direct representatives of the people of the city of Miami. And I think at
the end of the, if you put aside all the conversations of back and forth, that's really the
biggest thing that's happening here. How do we allocate those $85 million? As this
study, that's a reality, right? I mean, let's not beat around the bush here. But on top of
that, Commissioner, if I may, Mr. Chairman, if -- I'll finish up quickly. I'm not one to
speak for a long time, don't worry. But I do have to make my point when I want to
make it. It's very brief. So 1 think that's going to be the real big debate here, and
obviously the governance, if we do decide to give up that responsibility, that the
governance, who's going to govern, what's going to make up the governance of that
new entity is going to be a significant debate on this dais, 1 would venture to say. So I
appreciate what you've done, I appreciate the study. 1 know it's hard work, it's not
easy. I know we're not an easy political body to deal with, so I appreciate your
patience with us today, and we're grateful for your work. But you have to understand
that we have a very deep and serious responsibility to the people who elect us to get
this right and to address it for future generations. So you have to understand our due
diligence and that we're not rushing things here. And I agree with Commissioner
Reyes 's motion. I'm going to vote for your motion to move it forward. I think
Commissioner Russell is correct. We need to move it forward. But let's not be too
hasty. Let's get it right. And let's make sure that we keep true to our commitment to
the people who elect us by spending those 85 million, and more, and that you come to
us eventually down the line with an explanation of how you get from 85 million to 6
billion, because I'm very curious in finding out if those are real numbers or just pie in
the sky thinking. Okay, so that's my only comment. Thank you.
Chair Hardemon: I want to remind us that when this bond initiative passed, three
commissioners voted for it, two voted against it, and one of the things that two of the
commissioners, one sitting to your left and one to your right, that we were adamant
about was that we maintain the ability to allocate those dollars how we saw best fit,
especially as related to how we tackle issues of affordability in our neighborhoods, in
our districts. And so this is one of those things that is germane to the passing of this
piece of legislation that led to the passing of the referendum. And so, with that being
said, you should know that we all take it very seriously and we know and we
understand why certain entities were involved and showed interest once that money
was set up. And so we're all very cautious of that and how we move forward to
address affordability in our communities.
Commissioner Reyes: And I will add, if I may, that the decision, how we're going to
use that $85 million, I mean, it's ours. We are the ones that are going to decide. By
voting this way, we're not touching it, and that doesn't matter. We decide what
projects are going to be done, and how we're going to do it, and how we're going to
use the money.
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Chair Hardemon: Seeing no further discussion, all in favor of the motion say aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Hardemon: None against. Motion carries. This meeting is adjourned.
Commissioner Reyes: Thank you.
Vice Chair Russell: Thank you everyone.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 2:32 p.m.
END OF SPECIAL MEETING
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