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Miami, FL 33133
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7 HISTORIC and ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD
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9 Item No. 14-00420
Special Certificates of Appropriateness for
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William E. Hopper, Chairperson
15 Gerald C. Marston, Vice Chair
Timothy Barber
16 David Freedman
Gary Hecht
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Lynn B. Lewis
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Assistant City Attorney
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: I believe No. 2
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might be ready. Going back to Item No. 2,
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which is a Resolution of the Miami
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Historic and Environmental Preservation
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Board approving or denying an application
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for special certificates of
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appropriateness for demolition of multiple
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buildings at two addresses, at 4510
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Northwest (sic) 2nd Avenue and 191
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Northeast 45th Street, within the Buena
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Vista East Historic District.
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And is the applicant present?
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And are you aware that the
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Preservation Officer has recommended
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continuation?
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MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes.
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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Members of
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the Board, Ben Fernandez, 200 South
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Biscayne Boulevard, here today on behalf
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of the applicant. Joined by Mr. Harry
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Benitah, who's the owner of the property,
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as well as by Ellen Uguccioni, who's our
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historic preservationist here to answer
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any questions that you have about the
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historic character or non-historic
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character of these structures. Also,
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joined with me today is Kobi Karp, our
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project architect, and Jennifer
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McCoughney.
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This application --
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: We'll start with
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the staff report.
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MR. FERNANDEZ: Sure.
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Please.
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This is an application for a
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Certificate of Appropriateness for the
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demolition of non-contributing structures
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within the Buena Vista East Historic
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District.
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The first property, 191 Northeast
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45th Street. This non-contributing
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Masonry Vernacular two-story apartment
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building was constructed in 1940. A
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small, one-story structure also in the
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Masonry Vernacular style is located to the
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east. Both structures are plain with
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little to no decorative features and have
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gabled roofs, with what appear to be
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non -historic barrel tiles. Door openings
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and fenestration do not appear to have
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been altered on either structure. The
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windows on the front facade of the smaller
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structure match historic photos on file,
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however, the original shutters have been
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removed. The windows on the east and
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north facade look like later replacements.
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The front facade of the two-story
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structure has windows that match historic
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photographs, as well as windows that were
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installed at a later date. The windows on
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the east and west facades of the two-story
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structure also appear to have been
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installed at a later date.
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The property at 4510 Northeast 2nd
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Avenue, these two non-contributing,
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one-story, flat -roof structures were
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constructed in 1954. The jalousie windows
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seen in historic images have been
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replaced. The apartment signage detail
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that once framed the parking 'lot has been
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removed. Because of their placement on
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the lot, only a small portion of the east
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facade of the southern building is visible
from the street. A portion of the south
facade and the entire east storefront
facade are visible on the northern
building from the street.
The scope of work being proposed is
total demolition of all structures on
these two parcels to make way for a new
mixed-use construction project that will
be discussed in further detail in Item 3.
Several trees, including Christmas
Palms, Norfolk Palms -- Pines, excuse me,
and a Live Oak, are to be removed as part
of the proposal.
The Preservation Office first had
contact with this applicant in March, when
the owner came in to pull a demolition
permit. At that time, staff explained the
process for applying for a demolition
permit for structures located within a
historic district.
A meeting was then held with the
applicant and his representatives on
April 7, 2014, where the completed
proposal being reviewed today was
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presented. At that time, staff expressed
concern for the scale and compatibility of
the proposed design within the Buena Vista
East Historic District.
At the time of designation, the
structures that are now under
consideration for demolition were
identified as non-contributing. They are
both modest buildings that were
constructed after the district's period of
significance, which the designation report
established to be from 1922 to 1929.
However, they both exhibit an appropriate
sense of scale and compatible materials,
which are addressed in the designation
report and warrant serious consideration.
The Buena Vista East Historic
District designation report states the
following:
"The neighborhood has retained its
distinct character, with the majority of
postwar buildings being small,
single-family residences designed to
conform with, rather than detract from,
the historic and cohesive architectural
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fabric. The few intrusions within the
district are restricted to small-scale
apartment buildings and modest
single-family dwellings."
It also states, "Although the
majority of the buildings in the Buena
Vista East Historic District have been
altered, -the original massing of most
houses has remained virtually unchanged.
Typical alterations consist of the
installation of contemporary windows,
doors, roofing, and awnings or the
enclosure of porches and additions of
garages or porte cocheres. However,
despite these alterations, the integrity
of the historic fabric and its character
is still preserved."
Chapter -- I've been informed I need
to make a small note about the staff
report that I turned in.
The following criteria that I was
using to talk about demolition, in
consideration of demolition of structures
within a historic district, this language
is -- I've been informed, was
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inadvertently removed from our ordinance
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and we're working right now to make sure
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that it gets back in, but I still am using
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this as the criteria for evaluating this
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proposal,
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So having said that, the purview --
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or demolition of structures under the
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purview of the HEP Board shall be
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considered based on the following
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criteria:
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The degree to which the structure
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contributes to the historic and/or
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architectural integrity of the historic
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site or district. My response is that
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these structures are non-contributing and
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modestly ornamented. It is their
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appropriate scale and use of either
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compatible or non -intrusive materials that
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are important to maintaining the character
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of the district.
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Whether the loss of the structure
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would adversely affect the historic and/or
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architectural integrity of the historic
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site or district. In this case, it is the
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loss of appropriate scale and context that
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would be felt, given what is proposed to
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replace the structures under consideration
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for demolition. Though these structures
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do not contribute to the district, they
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also fail to overwhelm it.
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Whether architectural plans have been
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presented to the Board for the reuse of
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the property, if the proposed demolition
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were to be carried out, and the
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appropriateness of said plans to the
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character of the historic site or
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district, if applicable. The applicant
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has provided plans for the reuse of the
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property, should the proposed demolition
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be carried out. The Preservation Office
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does not find the current plans to be
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appropriate to the character of the
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district. One of the challenges faced by
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this project is that it combines two lots
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in a district characterized by small
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parcels. For this reason, factors such as
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scale, materials and contextually
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appropriate design are even more critical
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to consider, precisely because the project
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has the capacity to be significantly
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larger than its surrounding structures.
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Whether the structures pose an
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imminent threat to public, health or
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safety. Neither structure appears to do
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so.
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Whether the applicant has
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demonstrated that retention of this
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structure would create an unreasonable or
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undue economic hardship. This has not
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been presented nor has it been requested
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from our office, so just to clarify.
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And whether there is compelling
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public interest requiring the demolition.
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We're not aware of any compelling public
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interest at this time.
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The recommendation from the
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Preservation Office, in accordance with
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the Secretary of Interior's Standards and
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the City of Miami Design Guidelines for
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Historic Resources, recommends that this
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application for a Certificate of
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Appropriateness for the demolition of
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non-contributing structures located within
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the Buena Vista East Historic District be
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The following suggestion is made:
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The Preservation Office requests the
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opportunity to work with the applicant to
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come up with a proposal that is more in
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line with the form, massing and materials
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that characterize the Buena Vista East
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Historic District.
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Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: And you have a
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response, I'm sure.
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MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes, thank you, Mr.
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Chair. Members of the Board, again, Ben
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Fernandez on behalf of the applicant.
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A couple of things about the legal
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standard before we get into some of the
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details about the project.
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I actually called Ms. Schmitt this
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afternoon, after reviewing the staff
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analysis, and asked her about the source
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of these standards, because after
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reviewing Chapter 23, it became apparent
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to me that these standards do not exist.
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I went ahead and reviewed other
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similar historic chapters from New
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because I figured it probably had a very
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strict code.
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And the types of standards that are
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described in this report are standards
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that apply to contributing structures, not
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to non-contributing structures. And
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without really arguing that point, because
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I'm not here really to argue today, I
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think that we have sort of a common sense
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argument that hopefully you all can agree
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with, but just look at the very first
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question that the standard suggests, which
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is on Page 3 of your analysis.
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Number A says for you to consider the
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degree to which the structure contributes
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to the historic and/or architectural
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integrity of the historic site or
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district.
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Well, by definition, a non -
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contributing structure, you have before
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you on the board, is a structure that does
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not add to the historic architectural
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is significant. It no longer possesses
historic integrity reflecting its
character at that time or is incapable of
yielding important information about the
period.
This is a determination that was made
with respect to the structures on these
properties that are the subject of the
application for a demolition permit that
were already made by the City that are in
your records and that are part of your
designation report that is in your package
today. So we would ask that you consider
this application with that information in
mind.
The other things I guess I will tell
you, is that I think that even -- assuming
arguendo that some of these criteria were
to apply, I would say that we probably
meet most of the criteria. Certainly we
meet A. I just mentioned that.
B is whether the loss of the
structure would adversely affect the
historic and architectural integrity of
the historic site. Well, clearly, if it
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doesn't contribute by definition, I don't
think the removal of it would affect the
historic character of the district.
The next one is whether the
architectural plans have been presented to
the Board for reuse of the property. Yes,
they have. And that is an item that we
hopefully get to shortly.
The next one is whether the
structures possess an imminent threat to
the public, health and safety. Well, that
is truly a criteria that I have seen
argued to this Board with respect to the
demolition of contributing structures,
where you have to demonstrate that there
is a higher standard to be met as to why
the historic structure should be
demolished: It's unsafe; you know, we
can't save it; it would create an economic
hardship. Those are, you know, very, very
high standards to meet. I don't believe
that they're applicable in this case.
Nevertheless, I've submitted an
unsafe structures violation to you with
respect to one of the structures on this
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property, which explains that it is --
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that the next step is to designate this as
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an unsafe structure, to open up an unsafe
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structures case. And, in fact, the
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40 -year certification study on the one
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property at the corner explains that it
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would be, you know, cost prohibitive to
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really bring this back to a residential
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use.
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Now, do we even want a residential
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use on Northeast 2nd Avenue? The
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the street has changed over time and
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become more commercial in character.
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The other page that I passed out to
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in question. Just to show you, this is
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lots 1 and 2 of Block 9, at the lower
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right-hand corner of the map. And what
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I'd like to point out is that the original
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subdivision oriented these lots towards
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Biscayne Drive. And what you have today,
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if you look at the picture on page A-102
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panorama of the two structures in
question. And you'll see that they -- the
one on the corner doesn't even face
Northeast 2nd Avenue. It faces the
residential street. Why? Because it's a
home, it's a residential home. That's
what it was originally.
And today, what the area is really
asking for, based on the character
changes, is a commercial development on
that corner, or at least a mixed-use
development, which is what we're proposing
for the property. We're proposing
residential units above commercial, which
is the new urbanist dream mix in a very
low scale.
But without getting into that, my
point to you is that the corner house is
inappropriate today from a standpoint of
its orientation. Even if you were to try
to bring this home back, why would you do
it? You have a chimney stack facing 2nd
Avenue.
I don't know if you all can see that.
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should have brought this image on a board,
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but in the center you can see the chimney,
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right here, facing Northeast 2nd Avenue at
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the corner. And so I don't see how you,
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you know, add onto that in any kind of
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meaningful way to create an orientation
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that faces 2nd Avenue.
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The other structure to the north is
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setback, extremely setback from the
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street. And it has lost its ornamental
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feature that addresses 2nd Avenue.
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By your report, by admission on the
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report, and the report indicates that,
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that that structure has been altered
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significantly, so you don't even really
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see it from the street.
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suggest to you that the appropriate
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standard for you to consider in relation
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to granting this certificate, Special
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Certificate of Appropriateness for
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demolition, it's whether or not it's going
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to have a detrimental impact of any sort
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on the historic area. And we don't
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believe that it does.
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So with that said, I would
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respectfully invite you to ask our expert,
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not me, our historic preservationist Ellen
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Uguccioni, the former historic
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preservationist officer for the City of
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about these properties.
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We would ask you to support our
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application. Thank you.
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Chairman, Members of the Board. Let me
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say congratulations to Megan, and Megan,
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the two Megans, and hello to all of the
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Board members that I have known in the
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past.
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: And, for the
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MS. UGUCCIONI: Oh, by the way, my
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standpoint of is it a -- is it a
reasonable request and why is it being
requested. And I think historic districts
are very difficult. And you just talked
about one building within a historic
district. And that's how we look at it,
building by building, but each building
must be part of an ensemble that
characterizes or it has some character
that it conveys. Maybe it's the 1920's.
Maybe it's more than that. Maybe it's all
Mediterranean revival, whatever it is.
In this case, and I was around during
the incredibly long deliberations on Miami
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that allows for 3 and 4 -story buildings,
mixed-use buildings. Don't have to be
mixed use, but you'll see in this
photograph, at the very far right, there
is a two-story building. And this is our
site. It's a kind of a wonderful
curvilinear angle there, but the building
that -- I don't have a pointer. Hmm.
The building on the left that Ben
just showed you with the chimney is the
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1940 property and the white building is
the 1954 property. The residential
sections face east and west. On the
Northeast 2nd Avenue, there's an entirely
different character.
And when we start to do a district,
and I think this is really important, we
have to come up with boundaries. How do
we come up with boundaries? How do we
come up with boundaries for Biscayne
Boulevard? Well, that was easy. It was a
corridor. It was clear.
In this case, could we have gone
farther south or north? Probably, because
it was the residences built between 1922
and 1929, which were featured in the Buena
Vista East Historic District. This now
Northeast 2nd Avenue has an entirely
different character. It isn't zoned, nor
are the lots 50 -feet wide and intended for
individual single-family residences.
There is, as you know, a correlation
between street width and building height.
In the streets Northeast 45th, 46th and so
on, they're 50 feet in width. On
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Northeast 2nd Avenue, we have a 70 -feet
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width. And, again, that was taken into
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account when the new Miami 21 Zoning Code
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We have some shots of some commercial
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buildings. And here is a very small one,
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Jimmy's, which is on the corner, in this
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case of North Miami Avenue and Northeast
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45th Street. And here's one that faces
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Northeast 2nd Avenue that was in that
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first shot that I showed you. And here
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difficult thing, in and of itself, because
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as we go through a historic district, we
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say, does this portray the reasons why
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we're designating this district. And if
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you read the Buena Vista East district
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designation, you'll see there's a lot of
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talk about the gentleman who platted this
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area, how this area was actually
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then was later taken over. It was really
concurrent with Lemon City, and so on, and
so on and so on.
So the houses that were important in
this district, as it was talked about in
1987, were built between '22 and '29. So
Sarah Eden, then preservation officer in
1987, said, no, these buildings we're
looking at today don't have the qualities,
character or history that we have in the
contributing structures.
It's pretty clear that once we have a
designation report, the facts are
understood to be true. And that's why you
want to change or amend perhaps the MiMo
District to include that gentleman's
building.
I think Chapter 23, we need to look
real quickly at what's called out as
non-contributing properties.
And this is an entirely long
paragraph. I have highlighted in red what
I think is most important in this case, a
building that adds to the historical
architectural quality for which the
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district is significant, because it was
present during the period of significance
and possesses historic integrity.
Integrity, meaning, the building looks
like it did when it was first built. It
hasn't been so altered that it no longer
looks like it had when it was first built.
So none of these two buildings -- neither
of these two buildings qualify in that
sense.
Non-contributing building, we simply
put, no, it doesn't. A building does not
-- it does not add to the historic
character. Just the opposite.
And here I've made a statement, 2014,
that nothing has changed to revise the
opinion of the staff in 1987. And, in
fact, that decision is even greater --
have greater impact, because of
deterioration that has occurred at the
time.
When we have a historic district, I
don't know, in 35 years, I have never seen
one where every single building was
contributing. It doesn't happen. Life
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goes on, things change. So you may have a
Walgreens in the middle of a beautiful set
of Mission Revival houses, for example.
So if we don't pay attention to what's
important in a Historic District, and we
put the place the same level or standard
in which your staff report said, again,
what's the impact if this building weren't
there, that was for contributing
buildings, not non-contributing buildings.
Please, please, ignore that, because it
simply is not right.
Do we demolish non-contributing
buildings? No, not without having talked
to you. Why? Because we don't want an
empty lot sitting there for ever more.
And if somebody comes in here with a plan
for another major amusement park, which
you approve and never does it, that's all
we have, is a vacant lot.
So what we're concerned with, if you
allow these buildings to be demolished,
what is compatible on the site? Which the
staff makes very clear, that as you're
driving through, and if you look at your
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map, and hopefully there was a map in your
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package of Buena Vista East, Northeast 2nd
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That's really important.
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So the compatibility here is
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buildings like, because everything in back
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of, if you will, west of that Northeast
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2nd Avenue are residential structures.
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All of them. Why the line was drawn at
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Northeast 2nd Avenue, I couldn't tell you,
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because you could have gone down the back
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line of the houses.
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And I don't mean to be snotty here,
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Megan, really, but I've said these
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buildings were originally characterized as
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non -historic and they can't magically
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become important, so that we spend, in my
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opinion, all the time -- all this time
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trying now to say why are they important,
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when it's already been made clear to us
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from the original report.
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The staff, Megan read it there, both
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modest buildings that are considered after
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the district's period of significance, and
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exhibit appropriate sense of scale, scale,
according to the residential structures,
and they have similar materials. Well,
the district isn't designed just because
of similar materials. There's a lot more
than that that goes into a historic
district.
I agree, indeed, with the idea of
compatibility in terms of there cannot be
such an abrupt change that it's
disconcerting, but, quite frankly, the mix
of commercial and residential is, in
itself, a jarring juxtaposition.
I think that the idea of saying that
they're compatible in scale and they have
the same materials used is a very weak
argument and that they are not a part of
the distinctive ensemble that were created
from 1920 to 1929, which, again, is
repeated over and over again.
Very quickly, I want to show you some
pictures of the existing conditions. This
is the property that's built in 1940. On
45th Street, this is the entrance. I
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think there is a historic photograph on
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your staff report. And here you can see
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that, on the right, that is that little
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paraminute one-story bay. There's a
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one-story section connected to a
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multi -family. There's lally columns or
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metal -round columns on the bottom that
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divide the bays. On the top, there are
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wooden columns that are square. There's
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rot, wood rot, on the bottom. And the
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railings themselves are horrible, simple
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see here in the facia, just below the roof
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ridge, this, I don't know, a Home Depot
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variety facia that was added there. And,
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again, you can see the wood rot.
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Here we see someone has put a lattice
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panel between the windows. And then we're
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looking towards the residential section in
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Buena Vista East. This is a roof tile.
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It's an S tile, not the original tile. I
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put my hand on it as I was going down the
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stairs and almost fell. Unfortunately, I
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didn't, so I still have to work.
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This is the interior. You don't have
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control over interiors, but, nonetheless,
I did want to show you the conditions.
This is somebody put a hole in the wall.
It's not been occupied for a very long --
for a very long time. And here, again,
you see this very strange wood on the top
of this porch and an eve that has a hole
that goes around.
Now, what I'm trying to show you is
the lawn and the setback. Look at this.
This is a residential setback. And behind
it there are multi -family residences. And
that's a lot of what's in Buena Vista
East, multi -family residences, thus
setback here is 20 feet or 25 feet. It's
not on Northeast 1st Avenue, according to
-- I'm sorry, 2nd Avenue, according to our
Zoning Code.
Here's a stairway leading down. And
here's that same stairway. Here's the
rear of the building, which is obviously
because it hasn't gotten much sun, it's
all moldy and awful. There's no
electrical service to the building.
Here's the crawl space, which is open.
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There's the electrical panel.
Now we're going to go to the next
building. And you can see here, again,
the setback. It is facing not Northeast
2nd Avenue, but Northeast 45th Street.
And that's very clearly seen in the
left-hand side of the slide.
And you go to the next building that
we're asking to have demolished and that
building is way back on the lot, because
what's -- it's an L-shaped building. And
within that space that the L creates is an
asphalt parking lot.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: And can you step
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MS. UGUCCIONI: Yes, sir, yes, sir,
here's this parking lot. I only put this
in, because I wanted to show you where our
client's building will end, right at that
junction between the awnings and the
building next to it.
Very quickly, these are some of the
buildings that are in Buena Vista East,
for which the district was nominated, and,
again, their orientation. I think I've
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said east and west before, but it's really
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north and south. Here's a med rev. All
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of these mission revival. This is a
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wonderful bungalow. This you see is
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Northeast 1st Avenue. Northeast 1st is
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also a 70 -foot right-of-way, but there is
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a median -in it, but that building is huge,
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because it can take it. Another little
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bungalow.
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And, lastly, in my conclusion, we
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agree the building should, in fact,
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respect its surroundings. And that's how
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our new design was approached. And we
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respectfully request the Board consider
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the demolition of these two buildings.
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Thank you for your attention.
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes.
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appropriate to address Ms. Uguccioni at
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this point with some questions?
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if there's anyone from the public first.
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wishing to speak on this item? Please
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come forward and give your name and
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Stephan. I live at 101 Northeast 43rd
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the Buena Vista East Historic Neighborhood
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Association. We have submitted a
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statement. I don't know whether it got
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included in your packet, because it came
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kind of late, so I'll hand it out to you.
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I apologize if it's a duplicate. And
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there are also photos attached to the
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packet.
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Be sure and give
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for Mr. Fernandez and one for staff.
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MS. STEPHAN: Everybody get one?
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Okay. Thank you for your patience.
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So we -- our neighborhood association
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was approached by Mr. Benitah on
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April 15th, and we met with him and we saw
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the plans as they've been presented to
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weren't talking about a demolition, per
se, but I'll address the demolition aspect
of the application first.
The previous speaker mentioned this
idea of boundaries. We do not have to
wonder where the boundaries of our
historic district are. This property --
both of these properties are within the
historic district. That's the only reason
we're here today. So the idea maybe they
shouldn't have been, maybe we're not sure
where the boundaries are, that's
completely disingenuous. These properties
are within the historic district; both of
them.
I can't help but be a little bit
upset, because I'm not surprised to hear
that there's this motion to get this
building, particularly the corner
building, labeled as unsafe. I know this
Board has been very concerned about the
concept of demolition by neglect.
This property -- but, first of all,
the corner property was fully occupied
until Mr. Benitah bought it, at which
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point he evicted everyone, opened all thy;
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windows, ripped out every tree, left junk
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all over the front yard. And you can seo
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the property is not secured. That
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happened at the time of purchase.
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So it was in poor condition. No
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doubt about it. The living conditions -
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obviously the building is rundown and
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needs maintenance. No doubt about it.
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But to come here and say that those
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buildings lack physical integrity is, in
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by that house everyday, okay? So the
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reason there's no electrical service is
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because it was turned off, okay? Just to
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be clear.
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All right. The other property --
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again, they were making a very broad brush
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about both buildings.
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The second building, the one that
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faces Northeast 2nd Avenue, is renovated
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and is rented out on a short-term. And
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each one of the units rents for 1400 to
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$1500 a month. You can see that on the
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So these buildings are not beyond
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salvage. The idea that they're unsafe or
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that they're somehow a danger to society
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is not an accurate perception. So I find
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that the characterization is over the top.
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So they've also not been drastically
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altered. I mean, that's kind of the good
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news about something that's not been
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maintained. It's kind of been left alone.
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better photos, you weren't really provided
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actually been much changed to either site,
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besides the renovation that was done on
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the Northeast 2nd Avenue property.
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So the other historic concern that we
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have, in terms of demolition, is the
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removal of the very, very large oak tree
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on the site. The oak tree is on the very
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west side of the residential property, tVe
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one that faces Northeast 45th Street. Ard
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it is large enough that I can't put my
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arms around the trunk. It's very large.
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It's been poorly cared for and poorly
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trimmed, but we have a concern for tree
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preservation in the neighborhood. And we
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were very concerned to see that it was
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going to be removed. So we wanted to
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bring that to the Board's attention.
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You know, our neighborhood
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association has a longstanding concern
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about demolition of properties right and
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left. We're heading into a boom period.
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worried about the aggregation of lots,
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lots being put together, larger structures
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characterized our neighborhood with lots
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of multi -family units. That's not true.
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We have a very narrow commercial corridor
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only on Northeast 2nd Avenue. And it was
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consciously included in our designation.
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If you look at the photos I've
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attached, the first sheet, front and back,
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are the residential properties in the sane
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block as the 45th Street address. So this
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is not the store that's all the way over
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on North Miami Avenue that they showed
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that lead up basically house by house to
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the corner. Okay.
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So you can see in terms of the
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materials, we're looking at masonry,
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archways, wrought iron, barrel tile,
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porches, balconies. Again, more arches on
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the second page. And then the property 7s
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at the bottom. One is immediately across;
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the street, the one 6098, is immediately
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across the street from the site, okay?
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Now, the next set of pictures is
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Again, they were very selective with what.
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they showed you. This gives a little bit.
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more of a continuous picture. You can see
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all of the existing commercial corners up
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and down Northeast 2nd Avenue, similarly
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situated to the one that we're talking
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about, are two-story, very minimal Art
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pretty consistent.
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At the very bottom of this page,
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the right is a new structure that was
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approved by this Board. It has the
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required 10 -foot setback. It is
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completely consistent with other
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commercial properties on the corridor.
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And there was not a single peep of
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complaint from the neighbors. People are
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happy to have it there. And it blends in
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beautifully in terms of style, color,
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design.
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The little multiunit building at the
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bottom right, 6120, of that same page, is
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a contributing structure. And that's a
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similar multi -family building on a similar
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corner right there where it connects
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Northeast 45th and Northeast 2nd Avenue.
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So on the back, you see two more
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corner properties, again, deco feel.
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These are all within the historic
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district. A little bit of a deco feel,
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kind of minimal eyebrows. You would name
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these features better than me. I don't
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know what they're called, but there's a
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similar look to them and a similar scale.
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Certainly some of these buildings are
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rundown. I'm not arguing that they
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couldn't do with some more maintenance.
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You know, we have our problem landlords, I
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think as every neighborhood does, but I
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want to make the point that this
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neighborhood, this stretch of commercial
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activity is not moribund; it's not lacking
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in investment, et cetera.
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So the last two pages are Northeast
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2nd Avenue businesses. And you can see
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what characterized these businesses is
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that they're small, and that they're
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quaint and that they have a neighborhood
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feel to them.
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We know a lot of the owners, some of
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them are here tonight. So this is sort of
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the feel of what exists right now. And vie
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Anyone else from the public
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes.
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It was helpful to me.
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Item 2, which
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consider them separately, because if we
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say knock it down, but don't build that,
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you're not going to knock it down. And I
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think based on the staff report, we can't
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really consider them totally separately,
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because they're interwoven, particularly
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in the category which staff has listed as
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Item C in the staff report, where their
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architectural plans have been presented to
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appropriateness of said plans to the
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originally was, okay, they look like
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they're in bad shape, but then let's look
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and see what's proposed. And staff says
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where architectural plans have been
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presented, we have to look at that in
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deciding whether or not to demolish. Anc
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one of the factors we look at is whether
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this rendering, 45 Buena Vista, is
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answer to that, because I think the
architect and his group can speak to that
better than I, but I would like to comment
on the question of whether we can separate
these applications.
My focus was, why would you demolish
the properties that we're bringing to you.
And you can -- should you buy the
arguments, and you wish to let them
demolish, you can certainly make it
contingent on accepting plans that you
feel are appropriate to Northeast 2nd
Avenue.
So, in my opinion, and I'm sure the
City attorney will correct me if I'm
wrong, you could vote on the demolition
pending approved plans for the site.
I would like to also add, having
heard Ms. Stephan, this is a 288 -property
district. This is a big one. And of all
those 288 buildings, I would guess, and I
am guessing, 98% of them are residential
properties. So when you talk about
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at the other commercial corners shown in
the photographs that were passed out, are
you able to tell us, in your view, whether
the proposed 45 Buena Vista is
contextually appropriate design for Buena
Vista East?
MS. UGUCCIONI: Well, I'll say
this -- and, again, I'd rather the
designer speak to it, I think that you
have to understand this is a mixed-use
building. So the first floor is
commercial and there are two floors of
residential above. The parking is
underneath the structure, which was a very
costly move to make, so it's both. And
there are landscape elements that reflect
the kind of landscape that we see in Buena
Vista. There are certain materials that
are in this building that are in Buena
Vista. And many things said, again, the
designer could talk to better than I.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: I don't think
so, but I'm not going to ask you anymore.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Mr. Chair, with all
due respect, I would like just a couple of
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minutes to respond to some of the lady's,
Ms. Wendy Stephan's comments.
And, also, Mr. Freedman, if I may,
because I think you addressed the legal
standard, which is probably more
appropriate for me to respond to your
question as to whether or not you need to
consider the new plan that has been
submitted in deciding this application.
And as a matter of fact, when we met with
staff, it was staff's recommendation that
the applications be separated and
consider -ed individually, the demolition
permits from the new project.
I don't believe that there's anything
in the code that requires that you have to
consider the new project. It's not to say
we would love to share it with you, and I
think that you're maybe getting ahead of
yourself asking about the new project,
when we haven't even discussed it yet.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: I think if you
put it in the packet on the same day,
we're not getting ahead of it. It's in
the same packet. We're aware of it.
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MR. FERNANDEZ: Good. So you've seen
it and we're here to answer any questions
about it as well, but I'd just like to
state the very standard that you cite from
the recommendation isn't the accurate law
for you to consider. It isn't part of
your code.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: That's the
one you're pointing out before, when you
first started?
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes, sir. So that
would be my legal response, and that's the
only reason I wanted to make that clear.
I would also like to say that the
statement that was made concerning
demolition by neglect, that is a provision
that stems from Section 2362I of your
code. It does not apply to
non-contributing structures. It applies
only to contributing structures and to
locally designated historic resources.
Again, it's the question of why would you
necessarily want to monitor a
non-contributing structure.
What you're interested in is ensuring
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that whatever replaces that
non-contributing structure is something
that is attractive, and compatible and
consistent with the neighborhood, but the
question of whether or not it's
appropriate to demolish a non-contributing
structure is really not relevant to
demolition by neglect.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: I need to
disagree with you from a philosophical
point.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Is that, we,
in fact, have historic districts who are
today complaining, because they have
people who have properties in their
neighborhoods, who simply knock the
windows out, leave the property open,
they're noncontributing, okay, and then
they get the house placed on the
demolition list, okay? So it may not be
demolition by neglect, but certainly is
purposeful, you know.
MR. FERNANDEZ: But why would they
need to knock out the windows, if it's
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non-contributing?
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: They want to
tear the building down.
MR. FERNANDEZ: But as a property
owner, you should have a right to tear
down a building that's non-contributing.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Then they have
to come here and get it approved.
MR. FERNANDEZ: And that's why we're
here, but --
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: But those
particular people, okay, are getting
around that particular requirement, you
know, by making --
MR. FERNANDEZ: Oh. I see what vou're
sayi ng .
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: -- the
property unsafe.
MR. FERNANDEZ: I understand.
Well, let me just point out something
else I wanted to point out, Mr. Marston,
and I'm glad you brought that up, because
Ms. Stephan also indicated that it was my
client that somehow let this structure
deteriorate.
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The unsafe structure's notice that I
passed out to you was issued well before
my client purchased this property.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: When did your
client buy the property?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Please give your
name and address.
MR. BENITAH: My name is Harry
Benitah. The first --
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Address.
MR, BENITAH: Oh, address, 6000
Island Boulevard, Aventura, Florida 33160.
So the purchase of the property was
made in two steps. The first one, which
is 4510 Northeast 2nd Avenue, was made in
June 2012, and the additional one was made
in November 2013. I just --
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: May I ask your
counsel something?
MR. BENITAH: Yeah, sure.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: So you've
entered evidence in the form of what
appears to be something related to failure
to obtain a 40 -year certification.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes.
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MR. FERNANDEZ: Sure.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: And it also says
to me, but, again, please correct me where
I misstate, that with regard to the second
purchase, if the -- since the 40 -year
certification notice was of record, then
your client assumed that liability. In
other words, he knew that it was out
there, that this violation was there.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Absolutely true. I
agree with that .
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Please.
MR. FERNANDEZ: And we've also added
the pictorial evidence concerning the
condition of these structures that I think
was very explicit. I think we had
multiple photographs. We may not have
shown you every detail of the structures,
but it clearly shows that this neglect has
been happening over a significant period
of time that dates back before -- well
before 2012.
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your client has done to mitigate that
deterioration. Has he applied for a
40 -year certification?
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes.
MR. BENITAH: If I may say something.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Sure.
MR. BENITAH: The first property
doesn't have any issue of recertification.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: And that address
is what?
MR. BENITAH: 4510 Northeast 2nd.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Okay.
MR. BENITAH: This property is in
good shape. We've been maintaining. Like
Ms. Stephan said, we have tenant in there.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Yes.
MR. BENITAH: The second property,
actually, we had to delay closing, because
of this issue. And, as you may know, the
attorney say there's a problem on the
property. And we actually decided to take
the property with the -- with the
violation, after talking to the City, who
mentioned that demolition will waive this
violation, because there will not be
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property anymore.
So the plan was part of doing a
demolition. And then we get -- and I
finally met up with Megan. And that's why
we're here today.
You have to understand one thing is,
this is something I would like to mention,
is, I am part of this neighborhood for
more than seven years. I, myself, have my
office a block away from this property.
And we purchased the first property as a
business investment. And when the
opportunity came to purchase the second
property, then we had the idea to develop
a new property within the neighborhood
with commercial and residential. We are
not outside investor that don't care about
this neighborhood. I spend more time or
maybe as much time as Ms. Stephan or any
of the business people there. I care
about this neighborhood. I care about
historic. You know, I come from France,
which is a historic place. I know what's
the meaning of history, and I want to
respect that.
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I think that based on the information
we received about the non-contributing
property, and the fact that this is a
commercial zoning, which is not the
residential, and it has kind of difference
in terms of usage, we were able to do
things with this property,
The idea is to improve the
neighborhood. I mean, if on top of that
this is part of our business, I don't
think anybody has anything against that.
The idea is to make a nice property.
Develop it.
Today, it's not like -- it's not that
we let it go like that, but we were
supposed to demolish the property and we '
get some .trouble along the way, but you
have to understand, that if the idea is to
make a brand new building, we're not
neglecting it, but what would be the point
to renovate everything than to demolish it
after? So that was our first approach,
you know.
And, technically, I thought that when
we bought the property at that time, I
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thought months later, we would be able to
just demolish it, but, again, the idea was
not to let this empty, or getting bad or
-- and, I'm sorry, Ms. Stephan, but we
didn't -- we actually put the property
without tenant. We bought the property in
that situation. It was not in a better
situation.
It looks worse now, because we get
rid of a lot of bad plants around the
property that was hiding the property from
all the neighbors. Nobody knew there was
a house there before. I think so. So
today it may look worse, but it's not
worse. It's actually just as it was
before. And the previous owner was living
there for I think maybe 20 years, and he
didn't do anything with it. And they had
-- they do have -- they did have tenants
in there, but they were living in
apartment that were technically unsafe.
So this is the situation today.
You know, the idea is not to come and
knock down a building just to make
business. I am there everyday. I live
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this neighborhood. I go to eat at the
restaurant there everyday. I live this
neighborhood. I'm not just here to make
something, but I think we should find a
way with the neighbor, I'm not against
this idea, you know, with the neighbor,
with the architect, with everybody to try
to make something nice. And don't leave
this building that is -- forget the bad
shape, it doesn't look good. I mean, and
it's not even historical. And make
something nice out of it.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Staff's
recommendation on this item (inaudible) is
for continuance to allow staff and the
applicant to work with some attention on
plans.
You said that you'd like to -- and
your counsel is right behind you, and
he'll jump right in, that you'd like to
work with the neighborhood, okay?
And so I would have liked to have
known at the beginning what's wrong with
working with staff, working with the
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neighborhood to attempt to reach some kind
of an agreement with regard to the
replacement project?
MR. BENITAH: That's what we're doing
now, no?
MR. FERNANDEZ: If I may, we did meet
with staff. And it became apparent, after
our initial meeting, that the concern was
one of scale, which is what you see
repeated throughout all of the
recommendations here. They're really not r;
arguing that these are necessarily worthy
of contributing status, although my fear
is that someone could try to make that
argument and then purposely delay this
application even further, to be quite
honest with you.
But if the argument is strictly based
on scale, we have a three-story project
that is consistent with the T4L transect
regulations that were recently adopted by
the City of Miami in 2009, and certainly
took into consideration the appropriate
transition into the residential
neighborhood. This was just freshly
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looked at. We had more participation than
there's ever been, I think, in the
adoption of the Zoning Code for a city.
And we believe that the scale of our
project is appropriate. So we wanted to
come to this Board to make our case, and
explain the project to you and get your
thoughts on that issue, because we think
we have a very attractive project, but, of
course, we're willing to discuss some of
the architectural features, but the
question of scale is one that we are --
we're not prepared to negotiate on.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: So you're asking
for a vote today and not for a
continuance?
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: Mr. Chairman,
I'm sorry to interrupt.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Go ahead.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I have a
question for Madam City attorney, and it
goes back to what David Freedman was
talking about and I'm sort of stymied
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If you go back to Page 3 of 4 pages
of the staff report, there seems to be an
argument here as to what Chapter 23 really
says. And I'd like to know what it really
says, because it states that an
application for a Certificate of
Appropriateness for the demolition of
structures under the purview of the HEP
Board shall be considered based upon the
following criteria.
Now, what we're hearing from counsel
is, is that really whether or not we have
an adequate substitute plan for that land,
should there be a demolition, that that's
not really a requirement.
It seems to me that, when I'm looking
at the recommendation of staff, they're
saying that they wanted to continue this,
to take a look at the architectural work
that was planned for that land, should
there be a demolition. So it seems to me
that maybe we have the cart before the
horse here again.
I think that if, indeed, I'm asking
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the question of Chapter 23 says, that
there have to be architectural plans as
part of the criteria, and we don't approve
of those plans, that we can't go forward.
MS. QUIRKE: The current code,
Chapter 23, does not include those
specific criteria. Those criteria were
included in a previous version of the
code. My understanding that they're going
to be worked back in, but they're not
there as of today.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: Okay. Good.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Can you tell us
what is in the code concerning the
demolition of non-contributing structures
within a historic district.
MS. QUIRKE: Concerning the
demolition of non-contributing structures,
of non-contributing structures, counsel is
correct that the demolition by neglect
provisions do apply to individually
designated and/or contributing properties,
not non-contributing properties.
This Board does have the ability, if
it so chooses, to vote on the demolition
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approve, deny or whatever you decide to do
with Item 3. So it's really the
prerogative of this Board.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: But yet we have
the applicant's expert testimony, and I'm
going to paraphrase Ms. Uguccioni, she
showed us a popup, a screen, which said,
does it mean just because they are
non-contributing that you allow demolition
willy nilly, my word, not Ms. Uguccioni's
word. She said, no, the answer to that
is, no, you don't just allow demolition,
because you don't want vacant lots, with
the implication of all the nuisances that
come from that.
So it seems to me that we do need to
consider, if we rely on their expert's
testimony, that we need to look at the
demolition in the context of the proposed
replacement.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I happen to
agree with you.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: So are you
suggesting we table this item and take up
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BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: The -- I'm
suggesting that the applicant ought to try
to read the tea leaves. And that some of
us think -- must be thinking that the
project, as designed on Item No. 3, has
some issues. And that we would -- I would
wish that you would work with staff and
work with the neighborhood. You have
every right to say thank you very much; I
want an up or a down vote.
MR. FERNANDEZ: I just haven't heard
that yet. Your -- I don't necessarily --
I didn't read that from the Board.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Okay.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Because we haven't
talked about the project. I guess you've
reviewed your package. That may be your
personal opinion, but I certainly haven't
heard that expressed by the Board with
respect to our package. I think --
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I'll weigh in on
the tea leaves.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I think you
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And I'll make
three.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: You have a straw
vote from me, too.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: I think you're
going to have real issues with the
proposal, okay? And I think -- well, I'll
put the noose on the table, okay, is that
I don't think it's contextual at all. And
I think Ms. Uguccioni stood up and said,
well, here's all these wonderful details
that are residential and here you have a
building which is half residential, and it
doesn't have any of that detail to it. It
doesn't have any of that material and
scales that is appropriate in that
neighborhood. It's a very, very
contemporary building attached to a
historic neighborhood. And I think your
architect can do a whole lot better than
they've done.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: And if you'd been
around for the last two or three meetings,
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you would know that there were, at
least -- or within the last year, at
least, three applications in historic
districts in which the Board denied
construction of a new building in the
historic district simply because it did
not match the character of the
neighborhood.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Our first case
today.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Which was a prime
example. That certainly falls -- this
certainly falls in that category. So I'll
ask you again.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Well, sure, and I
appreciate the input, but understand that
I really had not, you know, read that
today until Ms. Lewis made her comments.
And I can appreciate that that may be the
sentiment of the Board, but can I ask
you - -
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Hold on, hold on.
Then it goes back to, did you really meet
with the neighborhood? Because they seem
to, in their letter to us, convey the same
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message. So if you got nothing out of
that into scale and into design --
MR. FERNANDEZ: Well --
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: -- then you just
came to us thinking we'd be different, I
guess.
MR. FERNANDEZ: As to scale, yes,
because the only question here that I'm
talking about here is scale. I just heard
something else from Mr. Marston, which is
architectural character. You know, of
course, experts will vary on their
opinions as to that, because the whole
nature of this district is how eclectic it
is, and how there really is not a
pervasive type of style in this district.
Read the report. I'll be happy to sit
down and we can go over it together ad
nauseam.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: I'll remind you
again what the Board has said --
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: -- in the last year
about context in historic districts.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Well --
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: So you need to read
those tea leaves.
MR. FERNANDEZ: But my point is, if
we're talking about architectural
character, contemporary being
inappropriate in Buena Vista, if that's
the sentiment of the Board, then that's
fine, but my point is that this district
is comprised of eclectic -- of an eclectic
nature. And there -- so we have another
style. And certainly on 2nd Avenue, there
is no -- there is no real established type
or style to follow.
But what I'd really like to ask is
about the scale, because forgetting the
architecture and the contemporary nature
of it, are you saying that a three-story
project is inappropriate? 'Cause you can
only go to two, I would imagine, from
three.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: I didn't say
that, but I want -- if we continue down
this path, okay, I think you need to go to
the two Megans, the Megans and the Megans,
okay, and I continue to refer to it,
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because we had a wonderful pair of
architects, husband and wife architects,
who built a wonderful little contemporary
house, but went around the entire
neighborhood taking photographs of
features of the other houses and were able
to incorporate some of that same feel into
what was a very small, modest,
contemporary house and fit very
appropriately, all right?
And I'm not sure that if I look at
the pictures of the historic homes in this
neighborhood and look at your particular,
you know, architectural rendering, that I
see any correlation at all. And I simply
don't.
MR. FERNANDEZ: I got to kind of say
that I'm outside of my area of expertise,
but I would feel much more comfortable if
this sort of dialogue were to take place
between my architect and the Board, so
that we can take some comments back with
us that are constructive and not just
guess, because I know that if we meet with
the neighbors, all they want is a
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two-story project. Their concern is
scale. And that's the same thing that
your department wants, is a two-story
project as to scale.
So if we can sit here a little bit
longer and discuss the appropriateness of
the architectural style, then I think
that's something that we can probably
incorporate into our project, but if we're
going to -- if we're going to come back
next week and talk about the
inappropriateness of the scale, that's
something we'd like to know now, 'cause
we'd like to move the application forward.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Okay, let me
give you some more tea leaves from me.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: I was going to ask
if he wants a straw vote.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Okay. Good.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Would you like a
straw vote in terms of scale?
BOARD MEMBER TRAGASH: One question I
have.
Mr. Freedman asked Ms. Uguccioni, was
the new project in context with the
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Historic District and she respectfully
said it should be answered by the
architect. That would be the better
person to answer it. So all this
discussion, maybe we should take a few
moments to hear the architect answer that
question that Mr. Freedman posed.
MR. FERNANDEZ: I would agree with
you, Mr. Tragash. And I would also ask
that if you were to take a vote to please
take a vote on the item that is before you
at present, when you're ready, when you're
ready.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: No, I was just
asking if you wanted a straw vote.
MR, FERNANDEZ: I don't think so.
Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I was going to
say, wouldn't you think that the architect
thinks, at least thought at the time when
he did the drawing as to scale, if indeed
he prepared this? Doesn't that mean he's
an advocate of his own work?
BOARD MEMBER TRAGASH: One would
think he wouldn't have presented it, if he
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didn't feel comfortable, and, yes, he's an
advocate.
But I think the issue is, why does
the designer think it's compatible or not.
And then it's our ability to say we agree
with you or we don't.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: And I think
rather than -- I mean, we've said this
before, okay, this is not our job to
design buildings here, all right? I think
we have a really wonderful staff, who's
going to feel very much the same -- I
mean, they're reading the same tea leaves,
but they probably read them before we did,
which is --
MR. FERNANDEZ: We've had some
conversation with them, and the main issue
with is scale. There have been some
comments concerning some of the
contemporary features of the building.
And I don't want to speak for you, Megan,
of course, you know, but scale has been
the main issue. So that's why I am
insisting on a discussion concerning
scale, because that's a big decision to
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make. That's just -- that's not just, you
know, wedding cake features on a facade.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: That's what I was
just asking for, if you wanted a straw
vote on what we thought about scale.
MS. QUIRKE: Counsel, are you asking
for a vote on Item 2 and then a public
hearing on Item 3?
MR. FERNANDEZ: Yes, I am. Thank you
very much, counsel.
BOARD MEMBER TRAGASH: I have a
question for the attorney, though.
Wasn't it said, though, that if we
were to vote on Item 2, we can condition
it? That our approval is only, if there
is an approved plan to take its place,
once it's demolished?
MS. QUIRKE: You can add any
appropriate conditions to your -- to your
motion. And keep in mind, a Certificate
of Appropriateness is good for 12 months.
So, you know, if you are to issue a
Certificate of Appropriateness for
demolition on a condition that this Board
approves a Special Certificate of
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Appropriateness for the new construction,
they do have 12 months during that time
period in order to obtain a building
permit for the demolition.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Mr. Barber.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Also, Madam
Attorney, if it is denied, then they would
have to reapply for this, this certificate
again or how does that work?
MS. QUIRKE: If the application for
the demolition is denied, they will have
the ability to appeal that to the City
Commission.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Or they can
continue?
MS. QUIRKE: If the matter is
continued, they can come back and make
further arguments to this Board. However,
it's traditional, due to the fact that the
code requires a decision by the Board
within 60 days on a Certificate of
Appropriateness, that the applicant would
consent to such continuance.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Let me get
clarification on the first one. If we
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were to have a condition -- approve
demolition on the condition of an approved
building permit basically through us on
what's to replace it, they could not
demolish it until that permit was issued,
correct?
MS. QUIRKE: Yes, you can make that
specific in your condition.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: And then they can
secure the structure until we have
something to approve that we would agree
on?
MS. QUIRKE: You can make that a
condition as well. Like I said, they do
have -- from the date of the issuance of
the Certificate of Appropriateness by this
Board, they have 12 months during that
time period.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: But they'll have
12 months to figure it out.
MS. QUIRKE: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: I mean, we can
make conditions that they don't demolish
the structure until they have that
approved from us, approved permit to
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replace it.
MS. QUIRKE: You can make that a
condition.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Then the process
have the structure secured and clean.
MS. QUIRKE: You can make that a
condition.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Mr. Chair, may I
address Mr. Ryan's comment?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes.
MR. FERNANDEZ: I think that that's a
good comment. And I think that my client
would be willing to agree to that. We
would, however, ask that if that could be
the motion with respect to the building
that is intact and operational, we're
certainly happy to keep that open and
running.
The one on the corner that is in the
more dilapidated state, it's only an
invitation to crime.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Let me ask you,
'cause I missed it. When did you
purchase, when did the owner purchase the
property, that property on the corner
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MR. BENITAH: The second one?
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: The one --
MR. BENITAH: The corner one, in
November 2013.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: So six months
ago?
MR. BENITAH: Uh-hum.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: I know we went,
you know, through the whole song and dance
about how bad they are. I know it was
never your intention to keep the building,
so I understand that. However, when I buy
buildings that are in much worst shape, my
pictures would blow everybody away, the
first thing I do is paint it. First thing
I do is I secure it. The amount of money
that you're putting in this whole thing,
that's nothing. And then all the pictures
and saying who cares, who cares. The
people live on the block here. The people
live down the street, they're the ones who
care. So seeing nothing is set and then
structurally I know you're kind of going
for unsafe structures on this, but I know
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that these old structures are structurally
sound, but it needs to be secured. It
needs the elements kept up and people kept
out. So if you do all that, then when you
come back with an approved building permit
for what goes there -- I mean, that's just
one idea, because I think getting rid of
the structure, before you have a building
permit, I wouldn't vote for that at all.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: Mr. Chairman,
I've got to echo those sentiments. You
know, you're a property owner in the
neighborhood. You really have a duty to
your neighbors to keep the place looking
decent. Even if it's vacant, keep it
safe. Keep it looking decent. You want
to knock it down now, once it's knocked
down, it's gone. If you never come back
with anything that we approve, it's gone.
That's what common sense says to me, if
we're going to go this route, just take
some small reasonable steps to make it
look better for the neighborhood with a
view toward building something eventually
that will be very good for the
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neighborhood.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I sort of feel
like we're going in circles here. I'd
like to make a motion.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: I'm ready.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: Yeah, I'd like
to move to have this item continued to
time certain June 3rd, our next meeting of
the HEP Board.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Is there a second
to the motion?
BOARD MEMBER UNIDENTIFIED: Second.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Is there any
discussion on the motion?
And do you consent or do you want a
vote today?
MS, QUIRKE: From the applicant, is
there a consent to that continuance, just
for the record?
MR. FERNANDEZ: May I have one second
with my client?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: You may. You may
have a whole minute.
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MR. FERNANDEZ: We would ask you to
take a vote on the demolition permits
today and not continue the item.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Okay. We have a
motion.
You withdraw your motion?
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I'll withdraw.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Okay. Is there
another motion?
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Mr. Chairman,
I'd like to move that the application for
demolition be denied.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS: I second.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: There's several
seconds on that.
Is there any discussion on that
motion?
MS. QUIRKE: For the record, if you'd
like to -- just for your own information,
the application was submitted on
April 11th. So if there was a continuance
and a decision on June 3rd, that would be
within the 60 days, just for your own
information.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: So the motion is to
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deny the demolition. Can we have a roll
call.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: Whoa, whoa,
I'm sorry, discussion.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Oh, I beg your
pardon. Go ahead.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: I'm not a fan
of demolishing structures in historic
districts. I think the small residential
unit around the corner appears to be in
really bad shape. And I'm hoping that the
property owner can improve the
neighborhood.
And I get the feeling that if we
resolved to approve demolition subject to
plans coming to us for the replacement,
and subject to the owner maintaining that
property and securing that property in the
interim, then maybe we can move a process
forward as opposed to just flat out
denying. And I don't see any harm to the
neighborhood in giving them a chance to do
that.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: I agree with
that. I don't think -- I don't think we
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should demolish without or allow it to be
demolished without an approved set in
there -- approved set of plans. However,
you know, I think that something could
improve the business corridor on 2nd
Avenue.
Also, considering -- let me ask the
City here, anyone. Do you know if there's
any plans to improve 2nd Avenue? Yeah.
So is the width going to be shortened,
narrowed? 'Cause right now we're getting
quotes of 70 feet. Yeah, anyone? I guess
the homeowner association might know. All
right, whoever.
MS. STEPHAN: Yes, there is a current
plan for Northeast 2nd Avenue
improvements. It does include widening
sidewalks to allow for some of the seating
for restaurants, some of the seating that
you saw that's currently in pretty unsafe
spots; so enhanced curbs. It will narrow
the sidewalk -- narrow traffic lanes
considerably. There will be parking along
the west side, not the side that you see.
It's just a single strip of parking. So
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it will narrow the streets slightly and
hopefully slow traffic down. It's a
safety concern right now.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Yeah, I don't --
I personally don't think that it's -- you
know, it's certainly within zoning codes
and the rules to put something there that
belongs there, that can be appropriate
there. So I don't think flat out saying
no is the right --
MR. FERNANDEZ: We would be agreeable
to that condition -- those conditions.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Well, we're not
there yet.
MR. FERNANDEZ: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Any other question,
discussion on the motion?
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Just a point of
discussion on this. I don't agree with my
colleague saying that we should allow it
to go to demolition with criteria for
that.
I think that the client has skated --
applicant has stated that there was no
intention to restore this property. I
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think there's been a neglect of this
property.
Before I demolish anything, I need
more information as to the structural
soundness of the building. I don't think
they've argued whether -- from a
professional standpoint, whether this
building is really structurally unsound.
So before I say whether I'm going to
demolish a building, I need to see more
information. I need to see a structural
engineer that's talking about the
structure. We need to have more clarity,
because we've seen plenty of times we've
agreed to demolish a building for
developers, developer end up selling the
building -- demolishing, selling and
leaving town and we have an empty lot. I
just don't want to be a part of that. And
I just won't agree with the criteria. I
can't do that.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Any other
discussion on the motion to deny?
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I just wanted to
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BOARD MEMBER HECHT: So we can go on
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BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Call the
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CHAIRMAN HOPPER: We're ready for a
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MS. SCHMITT: Timothy Barber?
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Yes to deny.
MS. SCHMITT: David Freedman?
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: No.
MS. SCHMITT: Gary Hecht?
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: Yes to deny.
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BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: No.
MS. SCHMITT: Gerald Marston?
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Yes to deny.
MR. SCHMITT: Hugh Ryan?
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: No.
MS. SCHMITT: Sorry?
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BOARD MEMBER RYAN: No.
MS, SCHMITT: No.
Todd Tragash?
BOARD MEMBER TRAGASH: No.
MS. SCHMITT: William Hopper?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes.
So the motion fails 4 to 4.
MS. QUIRKE: Correct.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Do we have a
substitute motion, please?
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Mr. Chairman, I
would move to approve the demolition of
the improvements located at 4510 Northeast
2nd Avenue and at 191 Northeast 45th
Street, subject to the occurrence of
conditions subsequent.
And for those of us who aren't
lawyers, you can't demolish until the
following occurs: That a Certificate of
Appropriateness is issued for a new
structure or structures on both parcels of
real estate.
Second condition subsequent is that
the applicant -- in other words, you can't
demolish until you have also demonstrated
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that the applicant secured each structure
and made reasonable efforts to clean up
the exterior so that they look -- so that
they have an appearance of not being
abandoned and vacant structures.
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Any other
discussion on that motion?
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes, Mr. Freedman.
BOARD MEMBER FREEDMAN: I think that
this motion gives the best chance to
improve the neighborhood and would favor
it.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Mr. Ryan, did
you have -- did that include all your
comments?
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: Yeah, I was
mostly thinking about maintaining it in
the process. You got the point about
until we get an approved set of plans,
something that we approve, I would say
scale and whatnot, yeah.
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just like to add the language where you're
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saying it won't look abandoned, the City
codified standards for vacant properties
of how they should be maintained, that's
what we should require here.
BOARD MEMBER LEWIS: Excellent
amendment.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: (Inaudible) is a
better code enforcement?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Was there a second
to your motion?
BOARD MEMBER MARSTON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Mr. Marston,
second.
Any other discussion on the motion?
Mr. Barber.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Now this is my
look at criteria for designation of
non-contributing to contributing, this is
the argument that you feared.
I think previously with the City and
designating these properties as recent as
the property -- the neighborhood that we
just designated, the 50 -year rule comes
into question, because a lot of properties
were not designated, because they didn't
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meet that particular criteria. Not that
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that would be accepted by the Board and
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the neighbor, which means at that one
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point we will have the demolition of this
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property. Wouldn't it be better for our
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site, for example, to participate in
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something in the neighborhood that will
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stay instead of just renovating a property
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improving. It's actually maintenance. We
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just had somebody come in front of us who
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spent five months trying to get through
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something. You have to maintain
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something. It's almost like taxes; you
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got to mow the yard; you got to paint the
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MR. BENITAH: I understand, sir.
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: It's like paying
property taxes, but, you know, you're
investing, right, into doing something
more with the property, so it's almost
part of that investment. And, actually,
you're going to help out the neighborhood,
because the neighbors don't want to see
three-foot high weeds, and rats, and
vagrants and people --
MR. BENITAH: And I agree, because I
work in front of it everyday also myself.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: Discussion.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER: Yes, Mr. Barber.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: The point still
remains that, why would he want to fix up
something that he wants to knock down?
And that's blatantly letting you know --
BOARD MEMBER RYAN: He's not fixing
it up. He's not putting up any plumbing.
He's securing it.
BOARD MEMBER BARBER: I understand,
but regardless of the fact, you know, the
intent is not to save this property, not
do anything. It's an investment. So,
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therefore, you know, if I continue to let
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it deteriorate, then there's a demolition
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by neglect. So we're headed down
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regardless -- whether he wants to secure
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this property, we're headed down a road
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assuming arguendo that the applicant were
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to take three years to come back with his
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plans, then he's got three years of lawn
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mowing, and trimming, and maintaining the
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paint and keeping the windows boarded up.
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project, which he has every indication
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that he wants to, then he will do 1 or 2
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mows, and he will really come in and speak
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to staff and he will really work with the
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neighborhood. There's an incentive, an
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helping him do that, but you're not on
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that team. So, you know, we're leaving it
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in the hands that he would follow that
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criteria that you put forth in good faith,
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but, you know, in the past, it hasn't been
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followed. It's good intentions for us to
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comes in and shows us and makes peace with
the neighbors that he's really going to
improve this neighborhood, then it seems
to me less likely that he's just going to
let it go. So that's sort of where it is.
I think -- the sense that I get from
this applicant is he wants to be a good
neighbor. And part of being a good
neighbor is to not let your property be a
mess and an eyesore for your neighbors.
BOARD MEMBER HECHT: I think the
other thing is, I think that all the
boards in the City have one central
purpose. I think it's probably, if I were
to identity it, the public good. You
know, that's what this Board does. That's
what the Zoning Board does. That's what
the boards do. That's why citizens sit on
these boards, look out for our fellow man.
I think that's what we're doing here.
I mean, I'm really in favor of this
new motion that was made, by the way, but
I think at the same time, it wouldn't hurt
you to board up the place. That's all
we're asking.
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just
think that whether
we put it in our
motion
or not, it's a requirement.
Any property
needs minimum property
standards,
so it's
really just redundant.
MS. QUIRKS:
That is correct.
CHAIRMAN HOPPER:
We're ready
for our
roll call?
MS. SCHMITT:
Timothy Barber?
BOARD MEMBER
BARBER: For the
sake of
my colleagues, I'll
say yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
David Freedman?
BOARD MEMBER
FREEDMAN: Yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
Gary Hecht?
BOARD MEMBER
HECHT: Yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
Jorge Kuperman?
CHAIRMAN HOPPER:
Not here.
MS. SCHMITT:
Lynn Lewis?
BOARD MEMBER
LEWIS: Yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
Gerald Marston?
BOARD MEMBER
MARSTON: Yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
Hugh Ryan?
BOARD MEMBER
RYAN: Yes.
MS. SCHMITT:
Todd Tragash?
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
I, Lorena Ramos, National Registered
Professional Reporter and Florida Professional
Reporter, do hereby certify that I was
authorized to and did TRANSCRIBE the foregoing
VIDEOTAPED proceeding, HEPB Item #14-00420,
heard by the Historic and Environmental
Preservation Board on the 6th day of May 2014;
and that the transcript, pages 1 through 93, is
a true and correct record of the VIDEOTAPED
proceeding, to the best of my ability.
DATED this 26th day of September 2014, at
Miami -Dade County, Florida.
LORENA RAMOS, RPR & FPR
COURT REPORTER
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83:12, 84:22, 90:24
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41:19, 47:8, 70:16,
72:2, 72:25, 75:5,
79:2, 79:3, 84:21,
90:6
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approving [1l - 2:7
April [3] - 5:24, 31:23,
77:21
archeological [1] -
12:25
arches [21- 36:6, 42:2
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66:21, 68:3, 68:6,
68:19
architects [21- 66:2
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6:25, 8:13, 8:23, 9:6,
12:17, 12:23, 13:24,
14:5, 22:25, 40:9,
40:17, 57:11, 58:20,
59:2, 64:11, 65:4,
66:14, 67:7, 86:2
architecture [1] -
65:16
archways [1] - 36:5
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18:1, 21:24, 66:18
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argued [21- 14:13,
81:6
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89:20
arguing [41-12:8,
21:15, 38:2, 56:12
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26:18, 56:15, 56:18,
58:4, 85:19
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71:18
arras [11 - 34:23
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aspect [1] - 32:2
asphalt [1] - 29:13
Assistant [1] - 1:21
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association [31 -
31:21, 35:6, 79:13
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12:24
assumed [ij - 50:9
assuming [31- 13:17,
89:16, 89:20
astray [1I - 42:10
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35:20, 62:20
attempt [1] - 56:1
attention [4] - 24:4,
30:16, 35:4, 55:17
attorney [4] - 41:17,
51:20, 57:23, 70:12
Attorney [21- 1:21,
71:7
Attorney's [1] - 1:20
attractive [21 - 46:3,
57:9
authorized [1] - 94:7
Ave [11- 1:10
Aventura [1] - 48:12
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4:18, 15:11, 16:4,
16:23, 17:5, 17:9,
17:13, 18:22, 19:15,
20:4, 20:18, 21:1,
21:8, 21:10, 25:3,
25:9, 25:11, 28:16,
28:17, 29:5, 30:5,
33:21, 34:15, 35:17,
35:24, 36:12, 36:17,
37:14, 38:11, 41:15,
48:15, 65:11, 79:6,
79:9, 79:16, 83:14
aware [3] - 2:15,
10:14, 44:25
awful [1i - 28:23
awnings [2] - 7:12,
29:20
f
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54:10, 55:9, 74:11,
78:11
balconies [11- 36:6
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71:14, 80:18, 82:12,
85:16, 88:13, 88:15,
88:22, 89:10, 90:8,
92:11
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71:5, 82:11, 85:15,
88:14, 90:21, 92:10
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42:2
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17:19, 40:4, 53:1,
56:18, 58:10, 90:22
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bays [1j - 27:8
beats [1l - 89:11
beautiful [1] - 24:2
beautifully [1j - 37:7
became [2] - 11:21,
56:7
become [21- 15:14,
25:18
beg [11 - 78:5
beginning [1] - 55:24
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11:13, 31:6
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55:20
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below [11- 27:13
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19:24
benitah [11- 31:22
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48:11, 48:20, 51:5,
51:7, 51:11, 51:13,
51:17, 56:4, 74:2,
74:4, 74:8, 86:22,
88:1, 88:11
Benitah [3] - 2:23,
32:25, 48:9
best [2[ - 84:12, 94:13
better p of - 34:11,
37:20, 41:5, 43:21,
54:7, 62:22, 68:3,
75:23, 85:8, 87:4
between [6] - 20:15,
20:23, 22:6, 27:18,
29:20, 66:21
beyond [1j - 34:1
big [2] - 41:22, 69:25
Biscayne [31- 2:21,
15:23, 20:10
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37:18, 67:5, 86:15
biting [11- 89:6
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52:10, 74:21
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30:18, 30:20, 39:8,
39:12, 39:18, 39:24,
42:16, 42:21, 42:25,
43:221 44:22, 45:8,
46:9, 46:13, 47:2,
47:7, 47:11, 47:17,
48:4, 48:18, 48:21,
49:11 49:5, 49:11,
49:15, 49:19, 49:25,
50:4, 50:14, 50:25,
51:6, 51:9, 51:12,
51:16, 55:14, 57:19,
57:22, 59:12, 60:5,
60:22, 61:2, 61:15,
61:22, 61:25, 62:5,
62:7, 63:9, 63:22,
64:4, 65:21, 67:15,
67:19, 67:22, 68:18,
68:24, 69:7, 70:11,
71:6, 71:14, 71:24,
72:9, 72:19, 72:22,
73:4, 73:22, 74:3,
74:6, 74:9, 75:10,
76:2, 76:4, 76:8,
76:14, 77:7, 77:10,
78:3, 78:7, 78:24,
80:4, 80:18, 81:25,
82:5, 82:7, 82:12,
82:14, 82:16, 82:20,
82:22, 82:24, 83:1,
83:4, 83:11, 84:6,
84:9, 84:11, 84:18,
84:24, 85:5, 85:7,
85:11, 85:16, 87:13,
88:2, 88:13, 88:15,
88:19, 88:22, 89:10,
89:13, 90:8, 90:18,
91:11, 92:2, 92:11,
92:14, 92:16, 92:20,
92:22, 92:24, 93:1
board [5l - 12:22,
17:3, 87:21, 89:18,
91:24
Board [371- 1:13, 2:7,
2:20, 8:8, 9:7, 11:12,
14:6,14:13, 18:13,
18:16, 30:14, 32:21,
36:25, 39:6, 40:10,
57:6, 58:10, 59:24,
60:4, 61:14, 61:20,
63:4, 63:20, 64:21,
65:7, 66:21, 70:24,
71:18, 71:20, 72:17,
76:11, 86:19, 87:1,
89:15, 91:16, 91:17,
94:10
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boards [31 - 91:13,
91:18, 91:19
boom [1] - 35:8
bottom [5j - 27:7,
27:10, 36:8, 36:22,
37:10
bought [31 - 32:25,
53:25, 54:6
Boulevard [31- 2:21,
20:11, 48:12
boundaries M - 20:8,
20:9, 20:10, 25:3,
32:5, 32:6, 32:12
brand [1] - 53:19
bring [31- 15:8, 16:21,
35:4
bringing [1j - 41:9
broad [11 - 33:18
brought [2] - 17:3,
47:22
brush [1] - 33:18
Buena [231- 2:12,
3:16, 6:3, 6:17, 7:6,
10:24, 11:6, 20:16,
21:21, 25:2, 27:20,
28:13, 29:23, 31:7,
39:21, 40:21, 40:24,
40:25, 43:4, 43:5,
43:17, 43:19, 65:6
BuenaVistaflats.com
[11- 33:25
build [2] - 40:2, 89:25
building [611- 3:21,
5:1, 5:5, 19:5, 19:7,
19:20, 19:22, 19:24,
20:1, 20:23, 22:17,
22:24, 23:4, 23:11,
23:12, 23:24, 24:8,
28:21, 28:24, 29:3,
29:8, 29:10, 29:11,
29:19, 29:21, 30:7,
30:11, 32:19, 32:20,
33:8, 33:20, 36:23,
37:9, 37:12, 42:3,
42:5, 43:11, 43:19,
47:3, 47:6, 53:19,
54:24, 55:9, 62:15,
62:20, 63:5, 69:20,
71:3, 72:3, 73:15,
74:12, 75:5, 75:8,
75:24, 81:5, 81:8,
81:10, 81:15, 81:17
buildings [291- 2:10,
6:9, 6:22, 7:3, 7:6,
19:16, 19:17, 21:6,
21:16, 22:8, 23:8,
23:9, 24:10, 24:14,
24:22, 25:7, 25:16,
25:24, 29:23, 30:15,
33:11, 33:19, 34:1,
38:1, 41:23, 69:10,
74:14, 86:6
built [61 - 20:15, 22:6,
23:5, 23:7, 26:24,
66:3
bungalow [21- 30:4,
30:9
business [5l - 52:12,
52:20, 53:10, 54:25,
79:5
businesses [21-
38:11, 38:12
buy (31- 41:10, 48:5,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
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Submitted into the public
Record for item(s) PZ. 3
on 10/9/2014, City Clerk
74:13
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cake [1] - 70:2
cannot [1] - 26:10
capacity [1] - 9:25
care [5] - 52:17, 52:20,
52:21, 74:23, 87:24
cared [1] - 34:24
cares [2] - 74:20
carried [2] - 9:9, 9:15
cart [1] - 58:23
case [9] - 8:24, 14:22,
15:4, 19:13, 20:13,
21:8, 22:23, 57:6,
63:9
category [21- 40:7,
63:13
caused [11 - 49:23
center[1] - 17:4
central [1] - 91:13
certain [2] - 43:18,
76:10
certainty [111- 13:20,
38:1, 41:12, 46:22,
56:22, 61:19, 63:12,
63:13, 65:11, 73:17,
80:6
CERTIFICATE [11-
94:1
Certificate [1o1 - 3:14,
10:21, 17:23, 58:7,
70:20, 70:23, 70:25,
71:21, 72:16, 83:19
certificate 121- 17:22,
71:8
Certificates [1] - 1:9
certificates [11 - 2:8
certification [61- 15:5,
48:24, 49:22, 50:2,
50:8, 51:3
certify [11- 94:6
cetera [1] - 38:9
Chair [T] - 1:15, 2:19,
11:12, 39:8, 43:24,
73:8, 86:12
Chairman 17] - 18:13,
30:18, 57:19, 75:10,
76:2, 77:10, 83:11
CHAIRMAN [621- 2:3,
3:8, 3:11, 11:9,
16:25, 18:18, 29:14,
30:17, 30:19, 30:23,
31:15, 39:2, 39:10,
48:6, 48:10, 55:13,
57:14, 57:18, 57:21,
59:13, 60:24, 62:3,
62:24, 63:11, 64:20,
64:23, 65:1, 67:17,
67:20, 68:14, 70:3,
71:5, 73:10, 76:3,
76:7, 76:12, 76:15,
76:24, 77:4, 77:8,
77:14, 77:25, 78:5,
80:13, 80:16, 81:23,
82:4, 82:9, 82:18,
83:6, 83:9, 84:7,
84:10, 84:15, 85:9,
85:12, 86:8, 88:14,
89:8, 92:8, 92:18,
93:3
Chairperson [1] - 1:14
challenges [1] - 9:18
chance [21- 78:22,
84:12
change [31- 22:15,
24:1, 26:11
changed [3] - 15:13,
23:16, 34:13
changes [1] -16:10
Chapter [6] - 7:18,
11:21, 22:18, 58:4,
59:1, 59:6
chapters 111- 11:24
character [221- 3:2,
3:3, 6:21, 7:16, 8:19,
9:11, 9:17, 13:3,
14:3, 15:12, 15:14,
16:9, 19:9, 20:5,
20:19, 22:10, 23:14,
40:12, 63:7, 64:11,
65:5
characterization [11 -
34:5
characterize [11- 11:6
characterized [41-
9:20, 25:16, 35:14,
38:12
characterizes [11 -
19:9
chimney (31- 16:22,
17:4, 19:25
chooses [1] - 59:25
Christmas [1] - 5:11
circled [1] - 15:17
circles [1] - 76:5
cite [1] - 45:4
citizens [1] - 91:18
CITY (1)- 1:1
City [21- 1:1, 57:3
City [181- 1:20, 1:21,
10:19, 12:1, 13:10,
18:7, 21:25, 22:2,
41:17, 51:23, 56:22,
57:23, 71:12, 79:8,
85:1, 85:20, 89:18,
91:13
clarification [21-
71:25, 86:14
clarify [1] - 10:11
clarity [i] - 81:13
clause [1] - 26:1
clean [2] - 73:5, 84:2
clear [6] - 20:12,
22:12, 24:24, 25:21,
33:16, 45:13
clearly [41 - 13:25,
29:6, 42:22, 50:21
client [151 - 39:25,
47:24, 48:3, 48:5,
49:11, 49:23, 49:25,
50:1, 50:9. 51:1,
73:12, 76:23, 80:23,
86:12, 86:13
client's [1] - 29:19
close [1] - 39:5
closing [1] - 51:18
cocheres [11- 7:14
Code [31 - 21:3, 28:18,
57:3
code [9] - 12:3, 44:16,
45:7, 45:18, 59:5,
59:9, 59:14, 71:20,
85:8
codes [11- 80:6
codified [1] - 85:2
coherence [11 - 37:25
cohesive [11- 6:25
colleague [11- 80:20
colleagues [2] - 82:1,
92:12
color [1]- 37:7
columns [31- 27:6,
27:7, 27:9
combines [11- 9:19
comfortable [2] -
66:19, 69:1
coming [1] - 78:16
comment [3] - 41:5,
73:9, 73:12
comments [6] - 39:7,
44:2, 63:18, 66:22,
69:19, 84:17
commercial [17] -
15:14, 16:10, 16:14,
21:5, 26:13, 35:16,
36:12, 36:16, 37:3,
38:7. 42:3, 42:5,
42:22, 43:1, 43:12,
52:16, 53:4
Commission [11-
71:13
common [21- 12:10,
75:20
compatibility [4] - 6:2,
25:5, 26:10, 42:1
compatible [6] - 6:14,
8:18, 24:23, 26:16,
46:3, 69:4
compelling [21-
10:12, 10:14
complaining [1] -
46:15
complaint [11- 37:5
complete [1] - 38:19
completed 11] - 5:24
completely [2] -
32:13, 37:2
comprised [11- 65:9
concept [11 - 32:22
concern [71- 6:2,
34:16, 34:25, 35:6,
56:8, 67:1, 80:3
concerned [31- 24:21,
32:21, 35:2
concerning (61 -
45:15, 50:16, 59:14,
59:17, 69:19, 69:24
concluded) [1] - 93:5
conclusion [11- 30:10
concurrent [11 - 22:2
condition [131- 33:6,
50:17, 70:14, 70:24,
72:1, 72:2, 72:8,
72:14, 73:3, 73:7,
80:12, 83:23, 86:14
conditions [8] - 26:23,
28:2, 33:7, 70:19,
72:23, 80:12, 83:16,
90:25
conform [1] - 6:24
confused [i] - 86:23
congratulations [1] -
18:14
connected [11- 27:5
connects [1] - 37:13
consciously p -
35:18
consent [31 - 71:23,
76:17, 76:20
consider till - 9:24,
12:15, 13:13,17:21
30:14, 40:1, 40:5,
44:8, 44:17, 45:6,
60:18
considerably [1] -
79:23
consideration [61-
6:7, 6:16, 7:23, 9:2,
56:23, 86:20
considered (41- 8:9,
25:24, 44:13, 58:10
considering [21-
39:19, 79:7
consist [1] - 7:10
consistent [4)- 36:21,
37:2, 46:4, 56:20
constructed [31-
3:21, 4:20, 6:10
construction [3] - 5:9,
63:5, 71:1
constructive [1] -
66:23
contact [1] - 5:16
contemporary [7] -
7:11, 62:20, 65:5,
65:16, 66:3, 66:9,
69:20
context [4] - 8:25,
60:20, 64:24, 67:25
contextual [i] - 62:11
contextually [41-
9:22, 40:22, 40:25,
43:5
contingent [21 - 41:13,
89:9
continuance [5] -
55:16, 57:16, 71:23,
76:20, 77:21
continuation [11-
2:17
continue [61 - 58:19,
65:22, 65:25, 71:15,
77:3, 89:1
continued 13] - 10:25,
71:17, 76:9
continuous [11 - 36:15
contribute [21- 9:4,
14:1
contributes [2] - 8:12,
12:16
contributing [37] -
3:15, 3:19, 4:18, 6:8,
8:15, 10:23, 12:6,
12:7,12:21, 14:14,
21:16, 22:11, 22:20,
23:11, 23:25, 24:9,
24:10, 24:13, 37:11,
45:19, 45:20, 45:24,
46:2, 46:6, 47:1,
47:6, 53:2, 56:13,
59:15, 59:18, 59:19,
59:22, 59:23, 60:10,
85:18, 86:5
control [1] - 28:1
conversation [11 -
69:17
conversely 111- 89:25
convey [11- 63:25
conveys [1] - 19:10
Coral [1] - 18:22
comer [16] - 15:6,
15:20, 16:3, 16:11,
16:18, 17:6, 21:7,
32:19, 32:24, 36:2,
37:13, 37:16, 73:19,
73:25, 74:4, 78:10
corners [31- 36:12,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
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•
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Submitted into the public
Record for item(s) PZ. 3
on 10/9/2014, City Clerk
36:16, 43:1
correct [i o] - 41:17,
49:3, 49:9, 49:16,
50:5, 59:20, 72:6,
83:8, 92:7, 94:12
correlation (2) -
20:22, 66:15
corridor [5) - 20:12,
35:16, 37:3, 42:22,
79:5
cost ill - 15:7
costly (i) - 43:15
counsel (61 - 48:19,
55:20, 58:12, 59:19,
70:6, 70:10
County (5] - 89:11,
89:14, 89:17, 90:22,
94:16
couple [21- 11:14,
43:25
course [31- 57:10,
64:12, 69:22
COURT [1l - 94:23
crawl (11- 28:25
create [3l - 10:8,
14:19, 17:8
created [11 - 26:19
creates [1] - 29:12
crime [11 - 73:21
criteria [17) - 7:21, 8:4,
8:10, 13:18, 13:20,
14:12, 58:11, 59:3,
59:7, 80:21, 81:20,
85:17, 86:1, 86:3,
86:4, 90:13
critical [1l - 9:23
Cross [11 - 1:24
curbs [1l - 79:21
current (31 - 9:16,
59:5, 79:15
curvilinear (1] - 19:22
LC
Dade [U - 94:16
dance (1) - 74:10
danger [1l - 34:3
date [31- 4:13, 4:16,
72:15
DATED [1] - 94:15
dates [1] - 50:23
David [41- 1:16,
57:24, 82:13, 92:13
days [21- 71:21, 77:23
decent [2) - 75:15,
75:16
decide [31- 38:20,
60:1, 60:2
decided [1] - 51:21
deciding 121- 40:19,
44:9
decision 141- 23:18,
69:25, 71:20, 77:22
Deco 1l] - 36:20
deco (21 - 37:16, 37:18
decoration Ill - 36:20
decorative [l) - 3:25
defer (i] - 41:2
definition [21- 12:20,
14:1
degree [2) - 8:11,
12:16
delay [2] - 51:18,
56:15
deliberations [11-
19:14
demolish [16] - 24:13,
40:19, 41:8, 41:12,
46:6, 53:16, 53:21,
54:2, 72:5, 72:23,
79:1, 81:3, 81:10,
81:15, 83:18, 83:25,
87:11, 89:9
demolished [81-
14:18, 24:22, 29:9,
70:17, 79:2, 86:18,
87:8, 90:22
demolishing [2) -
78:8, 81:17
demolition [58]- 2:9,
3:15, 5:7, 5:17, 5:19,
6:7, 7:22, 7:23, 8:7,
9:3, 9:8, 9:14, 10:13,
10:22, 13:9, 14:14,
17:24, 21:15, 30:15,
32:1, 32:2, 32:22,
34:17, 35:7, 38:22,
41:18, 44:13, 45:16,
46:8, 46:21, 46:22,
51:24-52:3, 58:8,
58:15, 58:22, 59:15,
59:18, 59:20, 59:25,
60:10, 60:13, 60:20,
70:24, 71:4, 71:11,
72:2, 77:2, 77:12,
78:1, 78:15, 80:21,
83:12, 87:3, 89:2,
89:11, 89:18, 90:19
Demolition 111 - 1:10
demonstrate [1] -
14:15
demonstrated [21-
10:7, 83:25
denied [41- 63:4,
71:7, 71:11, 77:12
deny [71- 60:2, 78:1,
81:24, 82:12, 82:16,
82:22, 90:19
denying [21- 2:7,
78:21
department [i) - 67:3
Depot [1] - 27:14
described [1] - 12:5
describing [l] - 90:21
design [9) - 6:3, 9:23,
30:13, 37:8, 40:22,
40:25, 43:5, 64:2,
69:10
Design [i] - 10:19
designate Ill - 15:2
designated (4) -
45:21, 59:22, 85:23,
85:25
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21:18, 21:20, 21:21,
22:5, 23:1, 23:22,
26:5, 26:8, 29:24,
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42:9, 59:16, 63:6,
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47:3, 47:6, 54:24,
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43:6
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89:6
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MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
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Record for item(s) PZ. 3
on 10/9/2014, City Clerk
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63:12, 87:5
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57:7
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15:6
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17:5, 29:4
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30:11, 44:10, 46:14,
53:3, 71:19, 88:23
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49:7
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45:11, 46:12, 46:24,
47:4, 47:9, 47:15,
47:19, 48:25, 49:4,
49:10, 49:14, 49:18,
49:24, 50:3, 50:12,
50:15, 51:4, 56:6,
57:17, 61:12, 61:16,
61:24, 62:2, 63:15,
64:3, 64:7, 64:22,
64:25, 65:3, 66:17,
68:8, 68:16, 69:16,
70:9, 73:8, 73:11,
76:22, 77:1, 80:11,
80:15, 86:12
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11:13, 31:16, 31:17
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file [11 - 4:6
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12:12, 21:11, 23:5,
23:7, 30:24, 32:3,
32:23, 35:20, 43:11,
45:10, 48:9, 48:14,
49:20, 51:7, 52:11,
53:22, 63:9, 71:25,
74:16
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five [1] - 87:17
fix [1] - 88:16
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FL [1] - 1:2
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80:9
flat -roof [1] - 4:19
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Florida [41- 18:22,
48:12, 94:5, 94:16
focus [21- 40:13, 41:8
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90:12
followed [11 - 90:15
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7:21, 8:9, 11:1,
58:11, 83:19
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59:4, 67:14, 78:20
FPR [11- 9422
framed [11 - 4:23
France ill- 52:22
frankly f11- 26:12
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44:3, 57:24, 67:24,
68:7, 82:13, 84:10,
92:13
FREEDMAN [19] -
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39:12, 39:18, 39:24,
42:16, 42:21, 42:25,
43:22, 45:8, 75:10,
78:3, 78:7, 82:14,
84:9, 84:11, 90:18,
92:14
freshly [11- 56:25
front [61- 4:5, 4:10,
33:3, 35:20, 87:16,
88:12
fully [11- 32:24
funky [1]-42:4
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Gary 131 - 1:16, 82:15,
92:15
gentleman [11- 21:23
gentleman's [1] -
22:16
gerald [1] - 1:15
Gerald [2] - 82:21,
92:21
given [1] - 9:1
glad [1] - 47:22
granting [11 - 17:22
greater [21- 23:18,
23:19
group [11- 41:4
guess [6] - 13:16,
41:23, 61:17, 64:6,
66:24, 79:12
guessing [11 - 41:24
Guidelines [11- 10:19
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Hall [1] - 1:1
hand [41- 15:20,
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64:17, 73:17
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14:20
harm [11- 78:21
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headed [21- 89:3,
89:5
heading [1] - 35:8
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14:11
hear [21 - 32:17, 68:6
heard [51- 41:21,
61:12, 61:20, 64:9,
94:9
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58:12, 70:8, 93:4
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61:22, 61:25, 62:5,
68:18, 76:2, 76:4,
76:8, 77:7, 81:25,
82:5, 82:16, 91:11,
92:16
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76:11
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Historic 1141- 2:6,
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11:7, 20:17, 24:5,
31:7, 68:1, 94:9
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4:21,5:21,6:25,
7:16, 7:24, 8:12,
8:13, 8:22, 8:23,
9:11, 11:24, 12:17,
12:18, 12:23, 12:24,
13:2, 13:24, 13:25,
14:3, 14:17, 18:1,
18:5, 18:6, 19:3,
19:5, 21:18, 23:3,
23:13, 23:22, 25:17,
26:7, 27:1, 32:7,
32:9, 32:14, 34:16,
37:17, 37:23, 45:21,
46:14, 52:22, 52:23,
59:16, 62:21, 63:3,
63:6, 64:24, 66:12,
78:8
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55:11
history [21- 22:10,
52:24
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hole [21- 28:3, 28:7
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homeownerll] -
79:13
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14:8, 25:1, 80:2
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HOPPER [621- 2:3,
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16:25, 18:18, 29:14,
30:17, 30:19, 30:23,
31:15, 39:2, 39:10,
48:6, 48:10, 55:13,
57:14, 57:18, 57:21,
59:13, 60:24, 62:3,
62:24, 63:11, 64:20,
64:23, 65:1, 67:17,
67:20, 68:14, 70:3,
71:5, 73:10, 76:3,
76:7, 76:12, 76:15,
76:24, 77:4, 77:8,
77:14, 77:25, 78:5,
80:13, 80:16, 81:23,
82:4, 82:9, 82:18,
83:6, 83:9, 84:7,
84:10, 84:15, 85:9,
85:12, 86:8, 88:14,
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Record for item(s) PZ. 3
on 10/9/2014, City Clerk
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93:3
Hopper [21 - 1:14,
83:5
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idea [141 - 26:9, 26:15,
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52:14, 53:8, 53:12,
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13:4, 20:7, 22:4,
22:23, 24:5, 25:4,
25:18, 25:20
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91:3
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- 67:12
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85:7
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90:6
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7:25
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4:16
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13:2, 13:24, 23:31
23:4, 33:11
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80:25, 86:24
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10:15
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21:12
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Invite [1] - 18:4
Iron [1] - 36:5
Island 11] - 48:12
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57:8, 69:3, 69:17,
69:23, 70:22
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83:20
issues [2] - 61:7, 62:8
Item [141- 2:4, 5:10,
39:15, 39:16, 39:18,
39:20, 40:8, 60:3,
61:6, 70:7, 70:8,
70:14, 93:4, 94:8
Item [12] - 1:9, 14:7,
31:1, 38:24, 39:4,
55:15, 60:1, 60:25,
61:1, 68:11, 76:9,
77:3
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jalousie [1] - 4:20
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job [1] - 69:9
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92:17
judge (11- 18:25
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49:12, 76:10, 77:22
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26:14
11
Karp [1] - 3:4
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73:17, 74:12, 75:14,
75:15, 75:16
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21:13, 31:11, 34:7,
34:9, 37:19, 42:12,
43:17, 53:5, 56:1,
66:17, 74:24
knock [8] - 39:19,
40:2, 40:3, 46:17,
46:25, 54:24, 75:17,
88:17
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55:24
Kobi [1] - 3:4
Kuperman (2] - 82:17
92:17
L-shaped [1] - 29:11
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landlords (11 - 38:4
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43:17
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Ienguage (2] - 7:24,
84:25
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34:22, 34:23
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189t[41- 38:10, 62:25,
63:2, 64:23
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63:3, 68:20
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61:23, 65:2, 67:16,
69:13
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90:11
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33:2, 34:9, 35:8
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45:12
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48:18, 48:21, 49:1,
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49:19, 49:25, 50:4,
50:14, 50:25, 51:6,
51:9, 51:12, 51:16,
55:14, 60:5, 61:2,
61:15, 67:15, 67:19,
82:7, 82:20, 83:11,
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25:13
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Live [1] - 5:13
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54:25, 55:2, 74:21,
74:22
living [3] - 33:7, 54:16,
54:20
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5:20, 10:23, 83:13
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35:6
look [28] - 4:9, 12:12,
15:24, 18:24, 19:6,
22:18, 24:25, 28:10,
35:19, 37:22, 40:14,
40:15, 40:18, 40:20,
42:4, 42:5, 54:14,
55:10, 58:20, 60:19,
66:11, 66:13, 75:23,
84:3, 85:1, 85:17,
86:5, 91:19
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looking n] - 22:9,
27:19, 36:4, 42:25,
58:17, 75:14, 75:16
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54:9
Lorena [1] - 94:4
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13:22
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lowerll] - 1.5:19
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on 10/9/2014, City Clerk
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90:21
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38:10, 38:25, 39:15,
43:12, 48:14, 62:2,
62:25, 65:19, 65:24,
67:1, 67:3
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Vista (231- 2:13, 3:16,
6:3, 6:17, 7:7, 10:24,
11:6, 20:17, 21:21,
25:2, 27:20, 28:13,
29:23, 31:7, 39:22,
40:21, 40:24, 41:1,
43:4, 43:6, 43:18,
43:20, 65:6
vote [171- 41:18,
57:15, 59:25, 61:11,
62:6, 67:18, 67:21,
68:10, 68:11, 68:15,
70:5, 70:7, 70:14,
75:9, 76:18, 77:2,
86:21
voted [1] - 90:19
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wait [1] - 30:23
waive 11] - 51:24
Walgreens 11l - 24:2
walk (1] - 33:12
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j wall [i1- 28:3
wants [61 - 39:25,
67:3, 67:18, 88:17,
89:4, 89:25, 90:2,
91:7
warrant 11] - 6:16
weak [i1- 26:17
web [1] - 33:25
wedding [i] - 70:2
weeds [1] - 88:9
week [i] - 67:11
weigh [11- 61:22
Wendy [21- 31:4, 44:2
west [6] - 4:14, 20:3,
25:8, 30:1, 34:20,
79:24
whatnot (i] - 84:23
white (i] - 20:1
whoa (2] - 78:3
whole [51- 62:22,
64:13, 74:10, 74:18,
76:25
wide (1] - 20:20
widening (11 - 79:17
width [51- 20:23,
20:25, 21:2, 21:13,
79:10
wife (i] - 66:2
William [21- 1:14,
83:5
willing [21- 57:10,
73:13
willy [i1 - 60:11
windows [131 - 4:5,
4:8,4:11, 4:12, 4:13,
4:20, 7:11, 27:18,
33:2, 46:18,46:25,
87:21, 89:24
wish [21- 41:11, 61:8
wishing [21- 31:1,
39:3
withdraw [2] - 77:6,
77:7
witnesses (11 - 2:1
wonder (i] - 32:6
wonderful [61 - 19:21,
30:4, 62:13, 66:1,
66:3, 69:11
wood [31- 27:10,
27:16, 28:6
wooden [1] - 27:9
word [2] - 60:11,
60:12
words 121 - 50:10,
83:24
worried (21- 35:9,
35:10
worse 13] - 54:9,
54:14, 54:15
worst l,] - 74:14
worthy [i1 - 56:12
wrought (i) - 36:5
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yard [2] - 33:3, 87:20
year [41 - 49:6, 63:2,
64:23, 90:24
years [51- 23:23, 52:9,
54:17, 89:21, 89:22
yielding [i] - 13:4
yourself [l] - 44:20
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zoned [21- 19:15,
20:19
Zoning [4] - 21:3,
28:18, 57:3, 91:17
zoning [2] - 53:4, 80:6
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