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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, October 9, 2014
9:00 AM
REGULAR
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Chair
Keon Hardemon, Vice Chair
Marc David Sarnoff, Commissioner District Two
Frank Carollo, Commissioner District Three
Francis Suarez, Commissioner District Four
Daniel J. Alfonso, City Manager
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes October 9, 2014
CONTENTS
PR - PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
AM - APPROVING MINUTES
MV - MAYORAL VETOES
CA - CONSENT AGENDA
PH - PUBLIC HEARINGS
FR - FIRST READING ORDINANCE
RE - RESOLUTIONS
BC - BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
DI - DISCUSSION ITEMS
PART B
PZ - PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM(S)
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
M - MAYOR'S ITEMS
D1 - DISTRICT 1 ITEMS
D2 - DISTRICT 2 ITEMS
D3 - DISTRICT 3 ITEMS
D4 - DISTRICT 4 ITEMS
D5 - DISTRICT 5 ITEMS
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9:00 A.M. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Chair Gort, Commissioner Sarnoff, Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner Suarez and
Vice Chair Hardemon
On the 9th day of October 2014, the City Commission of the City of Miami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular
session. The Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Gort at 9:05 a.m., recessed at
11:45 a.m., reconvened at 3: 04 p.m., recessed at 5: 53 p.m., reconvened at 5: 56 p.m. and
adjourned at 6:12 p.m.
Note for the Record: Commissioner Suarez and Commissioner Sarnoff entered the Commission
chambers at 9: 07 a.m., Commissioner Carollo entered the Commission chambers at 9: 09 a.m.,
and Vice Chair Hardemon entered the Commission chambers at 9:23 a.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Victoria Mendez, City Attorney
Daniell Alfonso, City Manager
Todd B. Hannon, City Clerk
Chair Gort: Good morning everyone, and welcome to the October 9 meeting with the City of
Miami Commission in these historic chambers. The members of the City Commission are Frank
Carollo, Francis Suarez, Marc Sarnoff, Vice Chairman Keon Hardemon, and myself, Chair,
Wifredo "Willy" Gort. Also on the dais is Daniel Alfonso, City Manager; Victoria Mendez, the
City Attorney and Todd Hannon, the City Clerk. The meeting will be opened in the prayer by
myself and the pledge of allegiance by the City Clerk. And by the way, I would like to dedicate
this prayer to the City of Kobani, currently under siege by the ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and
Syria) forces on the border of Turkey.
Invocation and pledge of allegiance delivered.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
PR.1
14-00988
PRESENTATION
Honoree
Rafael Capotine
Presenter
Mayor Regalado
City of Miami - Finance City Manager - Daniel
Department J. Alfonso
Denis Rod Mayor Regalado and
Commissioner Suarez
Sentir Cubano Mayor Regalado and
Commissioner Suarez
Walgreens Store
303943
Protocol Item
Mention of his
untimely passing
GFOA Certificate
Achievement
Proclamation
Salute
Mayor Regalado and Certificate of
Commissioner Suarez Appreciation
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Rev. Wilfred Job Mayor Regalado Distinguished
Aziz Reda Chair Gort Visitor
Awat Ahmad Mustafa
Munir Zawaideh
Fr. Tomasz Jegierski
Zijad Raoof
Stephen Baldwin Mayor Regalado Distinguished
Chair Gort Visitor
14-00988 Protocol List.pdf
PRESENTED
1. Mayor Regalado announced the untimely passing of Rafael Capotine, a pioneer and believer
in the downtown area in good times and bad, furthermore recognizing him as the first developer
to build residential development in downtown Miami; at the same time, sending sincere
condolences on behalf of the City of Miami to the family of this great resident and missionary of
downtown Miami.
2. City Manager Alfonso congratulated the Finance Department staff for earning the
Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA) award for the Fiscal Year 2013
Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) presentation; furthermore recognizing the
department for receiving this award of excellence for many years consecutively and
acknowledging the timely submittal for the 2013 fiscal year's presentation.
3. Commissioner Suarez presented Dr. Denis Rod with a Proclamation for his outstanding
history of professional service that has contributed to the well-being of the City of Miami;
furthermore recognizing his service to the community through participation on many City Boards
such as Project Arts Instructions for Special Population, Planning Advisory and Code
Enforcement Boards; honoring his 30 years of outstanding contribution to the community and
helping the underprivileged, the ill, the needy, and the unemployed.
4. Commissioner Suarez presented a Salute to Sentir Cubano paying tribute as an outstanding
commercial establishment whose core mission is to preserve and promote Cuban heritage and
culture across our multi -ethnic community; honoring the owners Miguel and Maria Vazquez on
the occasion of Hispanic Heritage Month for their contributions in enriching the cultural fabric
of our City.
5. Mayor Regalado presented a Certificate of Appreciation to Walgreens Store #03943 for their
generosity at the 2014 Annual Back to School event held at Henry M. Flagler Elementary;
thanking the store for their wonderful commitment to civic responsibility and communal welfare
and expressing gratitude for their commitment to elevate the quality of life in the City of Miami.
6. Chair Gort presented Certificates to the following distinguished visitors: Rev. Wilfred Job,
Aziz Reda, Awat Ahmad Mustafa, Munir Zawaideh, Fr. Tomasz Jegierski and Zijad Raoof
extending a warm and friendly welcome to beautiful South Florida and recognizing their
outstanding efforts of humanitarian aid for the persecuted. In addition, Chair Gort recognized
Patricia Alias for her efforts in bringing this distinguished group of visitors together to be
honored by the City of Miami.
7. Chair Gort, Mayor Regalado and City Commissioners presented a Key to the City to Stephen
Baldwin, paying tribute to him as a distinguished guest to the City of Miami and South Florida
and for the work that he does in addition to bringing film production to the City of Miami;
furthermore recognizing his outstanding efforts of humanitarian aid for the persecuted.
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Chair Gort: Okay, at this time, we're going to have some recognition. Unfortunately, some of
the people are going to recognize, they're not here yet, so when they come, well interrupt. I think
the -- Mr. Mayor, you're recognized.
Presentations made.
Chair Gort: Like I stated before, I have some presentation; that they'll be here. They just
arrived last night from Washington, so we're going -- whenever they come in, I'll make a
presentation.
Later...
Chair Gort: Now, ifI may, members of the humanitarian delegation have just visited Poland,
New York, the United Nations, and Washington, D.C. (District of Columbia); they're here.
Presentation made.
Later...
Chair Gort: At this time -- the Mayor was going to make a presentation this morning, but
unfortunately, he's not coming back. And this morning, we recognized some of the people, the
members of the humanitarian delegation who just visit Poland New York and Washington to deal
with the 1.5 million refugees that we have in certain areas of the world, and we recognize seven
of them, and the last one was late because he missed his plane, was Steven Baldwin, an actor,
director, producer and philanthropist, activist for the Christian issue. At this time, the Mayor is
not here, but I would like to present a key to the City and for all the work he doing in helping the
human beings.
Presentation made.
APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS:
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, to APPROVE
PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
Chair Gort: Do we have any minutes to approve?
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Yes, sir. I have for Commission consideration and approval the
first budget hearing of September 9, 2014.
Chair Gort: Okay, do I have a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: So move.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez. Is there a second?
Commissioner Sarnoff Second.
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Sarnoff. Any discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it
by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
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MAYORAL VETOES
ORDER OF THE DAY
END OF APPROVING MINUTES
NO MAYORAL VETOES
Chair Gort: Before going on, Mr. Clerk, do we have any Mayor's veto?
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Chair, there are no Mayoral vetoes.
Chair Gort: Madam Attorney, would you go over the procedures.
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): We will now begin the regular meeting. Any person who is a
lobbyist must register with the City Clerk before appearing before the City Commission. A copy
of the Code section about lobbyists is available in the City Clerk's Office. The material for each
item on the agenda is available during business hours at the City Clerk's Office and online 24
hours a day at wwwmiamigov.com [sic]. Any person may be heard by the City Commission
through the Chair for not more than two minutes on any proposition before the City Commission,
unless modified by the Chair. If the proposition is being continued or rescheduled, the
opportunity to be heard may be at such later date before the City Commission takes action on
such proposition. Anyone wishing to appeal any decision made by the City Commission for any
matter considered at this meeting may need a verbatim record of the item. A video of this
meeting may be requested at the Office of Communications or viewed online at
wwwmiamigov.com [sic]. No cell phones or other noise -making devices are permitted in
Commission chambers; please silence those devices now. No clapping, applauding, heckling or
verbal outbursts in support or opposition to a speaker or his or her remarks shall be permitted.
Any person making offensive remarks or who becomes unruly in the Commission chambers will
be barred from further attending Commission meetings and may be subject to arrest. No signs or
placards shall be allowed in Commission chambers. Any person with a disability requiring
assistance, auxiliary aids and services for this meeting may not fy the City Clerk. The lunch
recess will begin at the conclusion of deliberation of the agenda item being considered at noon.
The meeting will end either at the conclusion of the deliberation of the agenda item being
considered at 10 p.m. or at the conclusion of the regularly scheduled agenda item, whichever
occurs first. Please note, Commissioners have generally been briefed by City staff and the City
Attorney on items on the agenda today. At this time, the Administration will announce which
items, if any, are being either withdrawn, deferred or substituted. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Later...
Chair Gort: Mr. Manager.
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. We would
like to request to defer DI.2, which is the item for annexation, to the November 20 meeting.
Chair Gort: Repeat that again.
Mr. Alfonso: DI.2.
Chair Gort: DI.2.
Mr. Alfonso: The discussion item on annexation.
Chair Gort: Right.
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Mr. Alfonso: We would like to defer it to November 20.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Any other Commissioner like to pull or defer any item?
Vice Chair Hardemon: Yes. I'd like to defer to our next meeting RE.2.
Chair Gort: RE.2, next meeting. Anyone else?
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: I just want to ver with RE.2 that it will not have any type of lapse in
funding from now till whenever we defer it to.
Mr. Alfonso: Commissioner, no, there will be no lapse of funding.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Do I have a motion?
Vice Chair Hardemon: So move.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Vice Chairman Hardemon. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it
by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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CA.1
14-00887
Department of
General Services
Administration
CA.2
14-00897
CONSENT AGENDA
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED AUGUST6, 2014,
PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BID NO. 437315, FROM PETERSON'S
HARLEY-DAVIDSON OF MIAMI, LLC, THE SOLE RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER WITH THE MAINTENANCE OPTION, FOR THE
LEASING OF NEW CURRENT MODEL PRODUCTION YEAR, CERTIFIED
TRAFFIC LAW ENFORCEMENT MOTORCYCLES, FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, TO BE USED BY THE CITY OF
MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, WITH
ONE (1) OPTION TO EXTEND FORA TWO (2) YEAR PERIOD, FOR AN
ESTIMATED ANNUAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $168,000.00; WITH FUNDS
ALLOCATED FROM ACCOUNT NO. 05001.246000.544000.0000.00000,
SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS AND BUDGETARY APPROVAL;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MOTORCYCLE LEASE
AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM.
14-00887 Summary Form.pdf
14-00887 Back-up from Law Dept.pdf
14-00887 Legislation.pdf
14-00887 Exhibit.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0389
RESOLUTION
Department of Capital
Improvement
Programs/Transportat
ion
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), RATIFYING THE CITY MANAGER'S EXECUTION OFA
CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION ("FDOT") FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT ENTITLED: "CITYWIDE BICYCLE RACK AND SIGNAGE
PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. B-30694-A," LOCATED WITHIN FDOT'S RIGHT
OF AWAY, AS DESCRIBED IN ATTACHMENT "A," ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED.
14-00897 Summary Form.pdf
14-00897 Pre-Legislation.pdf
14-00897 Back-up from Law Dept.pdf
14-00897 Legislation.pdf
14-00897 Attachment A.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Adopted the Consent Agenda
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, including all the
preceding items marked as having been adopted on the Consent Agenda. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
END OF CONSENT AGENDA
Chair Gort: Consent agenda.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Carollo. All in
favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Did we do the minutes?
PUBLIC HEARINGS
9:00 A.M.
PH.1 RESOLUTION
14-00500
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Community and ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE TO SOUTHEAST
Economic OVERTOWN/PARKWEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, WITH
Development PARCEL REVERTER PROVISIONS, OF THE CITY OF MIAMI OWNED
PARCELS OF LAND LOCATED AT 244 NORTHWEST 16TH STREET, 1900
NORTHWEST 2ND COURT, 1624 NORTHWEST 1ST COURT, AND 1611
NORTHWEST 3RDAVENUE, MIAMI FLORIDA, AS LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN
EXHIBIT "A", ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR SAID PURPOSE.
14-00500 Summary Form.pdf
14-00500 Notice to the Public.pdf
14-00500 Legislation.pdf
14-00500 Exhibit A.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Hardemon, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Chair Gort: PH.1.
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George Mensah: Good morning, Commissioners. George Mensah, director of Community and
Economic Development. PH.1 is a resolution of the Miami City Commission, with attachments,
authorizing the conveyance to Southeast Overtown/Park West Community Redevelopment
Agency the parcels located at 244 Northwest 16th Street, 1900 Northwest 2nd Court, 1624
Northwest 1st Court, and 1611 Northwest 3rdAvenue.
Vice Chair Hardemon: May I ask a question?
Chair Gort: Thank you. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone in the public would like to
address this issue? Anyone in the public would like to address PH.1? Seeing none, hearing
none, close the public hearing. You are recognized, Vice Chairman.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much. Mr. Mensah, when I read through the "whereas"
clause that describes the length of time that the commercial development -- the project must be
completed, all units constructed, issue certificates of occupancy and rented within 48 months of
conveyance. My question to you is: Is that a reasonable goal for a project if there are no
permits in the process at this very moment?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. Typically, that's -- first of all, all the regulation requires is that when we fund
a project, it has to be completed in 48 months, so even if we want to, we couldn't by regulations.
And in addition, we think that typically, most construction takes place -- takes two years to do,
and we also think that in a year it should be able to get permits, and we do help them to be able
to secure a permit.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Additionally, there was -- speak in the resolution about the City Attorney
using all of its means to recoup whatever money has been expended in the past. Recoup from
who? I don't understand.
Mr. Mensah: From -- okay. This is a project with a long history. The -- there was a developer
who assumed a debt, and that debt is still outstanding. Even though the developer used this
amount, the $530, 000, the -- these funds -- these properties were in deed in lieu of foreclosure,
because we had tried to foreclose on the properties. So after that, there will still be some amount
remaining, and the City Attorneys Office will use whatever legal means they can to try to recoup
the rest of the funds.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So it will be from that developer (UNINTELLIGIBLE) property --
Mr. Mensah: From the developer, yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay, understood. I don't have any further -- I move it.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: Moved by Vice Chairman. Now, my question -- my understanding is if they're not
finished within two years, they can come and get some extension; am I correct?
Mr. Mensah: Yes, within two years, yeah. But what we're doing is that this is a work that we
work -- we will work with them to ensure that this thing gets done.
Chair Gort: All right, thank you. Any further discussion?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
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Commissioner Carollo: The only thing I want to add, and I spoke to Mr. Mensah about this in
our briefing, in the past, the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) -- and I think I mentioned
it in the last meeting -- with the constant carryover of funds, they haven't had the best record with
actually building, constructing in the area, and that's -- you know, and it's substantiated by
constant carryover of funds year after year after year. So I'm just -- andl think it goes by what
Commissioner Hardemon said, if 48 months was, you know, reasonable. I think it's reasonable,
but at the same time, I want to make sure that if we're doing this, this doesn't, once again,
become a project that is lingering, and it's just on the books and it never gets done. So what
assurance can you give me that, you know, this would actually get done?
Mr. Mensah: The only assurance I can give you, Commissioner, is that the department,
Department of Community & Economic Development, will work with the CRA on this particular
project. As a matter of fact, we already start in motion meetings to make sure that this happens.
And I know in our meaning, you asked do we have track records. Yes, we do have track records.
We ensure that there a lot built in the City within the last six years, and you we will ensure that
this particular one get done.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. I would then trust on your professionalism and the CRA to
actually get this done, because too many times, there's been projects that's pretty much on the
books, but they never actually break ground and actually get constructed. Thank you.
Mr. Mensah: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
PH.2 RESOLUTION
14-00909
Department of Police A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, BY A FOUR -FIFTHS
(4/5THS) AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 18-92 OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, AFTER AN
ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING, RATIFYING, APPROVING, AND
CONFIRMING THE CITY MANAGER'S FINDING OFASOLE SOURCE;
WAIVING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDDING
PROCEDURES AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE
UPGRADES, NEW MEDICAL SOFTWARE, AND CERTIFICATION TRAINING
FOR THE EMERGENCY POLICE DISPATCH SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE
EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH SYSTEM, FROM PRIORITY DISPATCH,
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$345,908.00 FOR SOFTWARE UPGRADE, AND IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $45,600.00 FOR CERTIFICATION TRAINING, WITH FUNDS
ALLOCATED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE E-911 SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND, PROJECT 19-196003, AWARD 1214, ACCOUNT NO.
12000.190351.531000 AND ACCOUNT NO. 12000.190351.554000;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
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FR.1
14-00989
14-00909 Summary Form.pdf
14-00909 Notice to the Public.pdf
14-00909 Memo - Sole Source Finding.pdf
14-00909 Memo - Request for Sole Source Finding.pdf
14-00909 Back-up from Law Dept.pdf
14-00909 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Chair Gort: PH.2.
Manuel Orosa: Morning, Commissioners. Manny Orosa, Chief of Police. PH.2 is software
upgrades for our current system that we have in communications. It's just an add -on, and the
reason it's a sole source is because it's the current system that we have, and we're just adding
some medical software and stuff like that for our dispatching.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Gort: This is a public hearing. Is anyone in the public would like to address this issue?
Seeing none, hearing none, close the public hearing. Motion by Commissioner Carollo; second
by Commissioner Suarez. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying
"aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
END OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
FIRST READING ORDINANCE
ORDINANCE
First Reading
Department of Real AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
Estate and Asset 38/ARTICLE II OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
Management AMENDED ("CITY CODE"), ENTITLED "PARKS AND RECREATION/USE
REGULATIONS", MORE PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTION 38-69 OF
THE CITY CODE, ENTITLED "ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES; INTOXICATED
PERSONS" TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WITHIN
RESTAURANT FACILITIES LOCATED IN CITY OF MIAMI PEACOCK PARK
PROPERTY; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR
AN IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE.
14-00989 Summary Form SR.pdf
14-00989 Legislation FR/SR.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chair Hardemon, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Hardemon
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
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Mark Burns: Good morning, Commissioners. Mark Burns, lease manager with Public
Facilities. I'm bringing forth FR.1, an ordinance -- first reading. An ordinance of the Miami
City Commission amending Chapter 38, Article 2 of the Code to allow the sale of alcoholic
beverages within restaurant facilities located at City of Miami Peacock Park property.
Commissioner Sarnoff I would move this, Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Hardemon: Second.
Chair Gort: Second by Vice Chairman Hardemon. This is a public hearing. Is anyone in the
public would like to address this issue? Anyone in the public? Seeing none, hearing none, close
the public hearing.
Vice Chair Hardemon: I have a quick question, if you don't mind.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: How many people or organizations applied for the restaurant space at
Peacock Park?
Mr. Burns: There was an RFP (Request for Proposals) already done and we're finishing --
wrapping things up. It should be coming up after this ordinance passes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: No, I understand that, but I was wondering how many organiza -- how
many applied, yeah.
Mr. Burns: Three.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay, okay, that's it.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion?
Commissioner Suarez: By the way, they already sell alcoholic beverages at Peacock Park.
Commissioner Sarnoff Sorry?
Commissioner Suarez: They already sell alcoholic beverages at Peacock Park.
Commissioner Sarnoff On a sporadic basis, that'd be correct.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Chair, I'm sorry.
Chair Gort: Oh, that's an ordinance. Sorry. Go ahead, read it.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Mr. Hannon: Roll call on item FR.1.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
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RE.1
14-00901
Department of
Community and
Economic
Development
RE.2
14-00908
Mr. Hannon: The ordinance passes on first reading, 4-0.
Chair Gort: Thankyou.
END OF FIRST READING ORDINANCE
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING THE AMENDED CITY OF MIAMI ("CITY")
LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN ("LHAP"), ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 1, 2010, THROUGH JUNE 30,
2013, FOR THE CONTINUED PARTICIPATION OF THE CITY IN THE
FLORIDA STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP ("SHIP")
PROGRAM; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMITA PLAN FOR
REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE
CORPORATION; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, TO IMPLEMENT THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LHAP
AND THE SHIP PROGRAM.
14-00901 Summary Form.pdf
14-00901 Pre-Legislation.pdf
14-00901 Back-up from Law Dept.pdf
14-00901 Legislation.pdf
14-00901 Exhibit A.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chair Hardemon, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Hardemon
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
R-14-0393
Chair Gort: RE.1.
George Mensah (Director): Morning, Commissioners. George Mensah, Community
Development. RE.1 is a resolution of the Miami City Commission approving the amended City of
Miami Local Housing Assistance Plan, attached and incorporated, for the period of July 1, 2010
through June 30, 2013.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Sarnoff. So move.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff. Is there a -- second by Vice Chairman
Hardemon. Any discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
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Community and
Economic
Development
RE.3
14-00898
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF POVERTY
INITIATIVE PROGRAM FUNDS TOTALING $381,000.00, IN THE AMOUNTS,
AND TO THE AGENCIES AS SPECIFIED IN EXHIBIT "A," ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, FOR PUBLIC SERVICE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES FOR THE
PROGRAM YEAR 2014-2015, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2014, FROM
ACCOUNT NO. 14010.910101.882000; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH SAID AGENCIES, FOR SAID PURPOSE.
14-00908 Summary Form.pdf
14-00908 Pre-Legislation.pdf
14-00908 Legislation.pdf
14-00908 Exhibit A.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Hardemon, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
Department of Capital
Improvement
Programs/Transportat
ion
Note for the Record: Item RE.2 was deferred to the October 23, 2014 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED MONDAY, JULY 14,
2014, PURSUANT TO INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 12-13-051, FROM
MAGGOLC, INC., THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE
BIDDER, FOR THE BEACOM PROJECT AREA IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II -
D3, FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $900,876.85 WHICH
INCLUDES $818,978.96 FOR THE TOTAL BID AMOUNT, PLUS A TEN
PERCENT (10%) OWNER CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF $81,897.89;
ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $900,876.85 FROM CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. B-40325; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, CONSISTING OF THE ITB DOCUMENTS AND
ATTACHMENTS, FOR SAID PURPOSE.
14-00898 Summary Form.pdf
14-00898 Memo -Award Recommendation.pdf
14-00898 Bid Security List.pdf
14-00898 Memo - Rejection of Bids.pdf
14-00898 Legislation.pdf
14-00898-Exhibit-SUB.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0394
Chair Gort: RE. 2.
Unidentified Speaker: Three.
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Chair Gort: Two was -- okay, 3.
Mark Spanioli: Good morning, Commissioners. Mark Spanioli, director of Capital
Improvements & Transportation. RE.3 is a contract award. This is to Maggolc, Inc. for the
phase two Beacom Area Improvements Project in an amount not to exceed of $900, 876. There
was a scrivener's error in the -- page 7 of the contract. I'm going to pass out the change to the
location of the project. Part 3 of Section 1, the locations that were called out had an error, so
we're replacing that sheet on page 7 of the contract; doesn't affect the bid in any way. The bid
was bidded [sic] properly, and the plans that were included were correct.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Carollo. Do I have a second?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Sarnoff. Further discussion? Being none, all in favor,
state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Spanioli: Thank you.
RE.4 RESOLUTION
14-00985
Department of Police A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE PROJECT
ENTITLED: "2014-2015 VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT GRANT PROGRAM,"
CONSISTING OFAGRANTAWARD FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, DIVISION OF VICTIM SERVICES, IN
THE AMOUNT OF $32,467.00, AND THE REQUIRED MATCHING FUNDS BY
THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,117.00, IN THE FORM OF
IN -KIND SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI POLICE
DEPARTMENT, FORA TOTAL AMOUNT OF $40,584.00; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT SAID GRANT AWARD AND TO EXECUTE THE
GRANT AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, AND TO
IMPLEMENT THE ACCEPTANCE AND ADMINISTRATION OF SAID GRANT.
14-00985 Summary Form.pdf
14-00985 Legislation.pdf
14-00985 Exhibit-Agreement.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Chair Gort: RE.4.
Manuel Orosa: Good morning again, Commissioners. Manny Orosa, Chief of Police. RE.4 is a
renewal of a VOC (victims of Crime) grant for the salary of an employee that deals with victims'
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advocates, and it's a free grant from the State of Florida, and we've been doing this for many
years, and this is just a renewal.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Sarnoff.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Carollo. Any discussion? Being none, all in favor, state
it by saying --
Vice Chair Hardemon: I'm sorry, I had one --
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- question. Chief I was trying to understand, 'cause when I read
through it, I didn't see it to mean it was a salary, because the question that came to mind -- I
know that in the presentation, you have dollars that are assigned for different types of services
for crime. So it wasn't clear to me, though, whether or not it was for direct services that person
provides -- now that you say it's a person -- or it was dollars that would be -- say for instance --
I'm not sure if this occurs or not -- but checks that would be written to victims of certain crimes
in certain amounts?
Chief Orosa: No. This one is for the actual salary, and what you see is a breakdown of what the
job entails; how much services that job entails to -- for different crimes from different services
and -- but that's for salary. The one you're talking about is -- actually, that person signs up a
form that sends to Kathy Rundle, and then we get it back, and we send it to the State, and we get
reimbursed for the monies that we hand to victims. That's a different pot.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So that's not this, but that does happen?
Chief Orosa: It does happen, yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So I'm not insane.
Chief Orosa: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: I am insane.
Chief Orosa: The -- what?
Vice Chair Hardemon: Nothing. Thank you.
Chief Orosa: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: Okay, any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.5 RESOLUTION
14-00992
City Commission A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION RESCINDING
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RESOLUTION NO. 14-0357, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 11, 2014, IN ITS
ENTIRETY; SETTING FORTH A NEW RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE
CITY OF MIAMI CHARTER REVIEW AND REFORM COMMITTEE, TO
REVIEW THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,
AND RECOMMEND CHARTER PROPOSALS AND AMENDMENTS
NECESSARY TO UPDATE THE CHARTER; STATING THE COMMITTEE'S
PURPOSE, POWERS, DUTIES, COMPOSITION, APPOINTMENT
QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR MEMBERSHIP; PROVIDING
FOR OFFICERS, RULES OF PROCEDURE, MEETINGS, QUORUM, LEGAL
AND STAFF SUPPORT, ASSIGNMENT OF PERSONNEL, WAIVERS, AND
PUBLIC NOTICE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
14-00992 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Chief Orosa: RE.5.
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): RE.5 is a resolution, Commissioners, for the -- setting forth
the rest -- establishing the City of Miami Charter Review & Reform Committee. I think that --
Commissioner Suarez: I'll move it for discussion.
Mr. Alfonso: -- you have some appointments.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez. Is there a second?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Sarnoff. You're recognized, Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think the -- this reso does what we requested at
the last Commission meeting. There's one additional item -- a member of the community
approached me about the possibility of inserting language that committee members would not be
removed unless it was for cause. I don't know if that's something that my colleagues want, or if
my colleagues want unfettered -- as we have with our -- all our other boards, essentially --
unfettered discretion to remove and add members that are -- our own appointees as we see fit.
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): The Mayor wanted also to discuss that issue, and wanted to
probably add the word 'for cause, " as well.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. The question is: Are we going to define that any better, or are we
just going to leave it like that?
Ms. Mendez: The -- right now the City Code says that members can be removed based on if --
the appointing Commissioner is the one that could do the removals.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Ms. Mendez: So --
Commissioner Suarez: That's how it normally is.
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Ms. Mendez: -- a `for cause, " we can specify what causes, but I believe that it would just be --
Commissioner Suarez: For cause --
Ms. Mendez: -- 'for cause " is enough, because it would just come before the Commission; you
would discuss it.
Commissioner Suarez: "For causes" are articulated by the board.
Ms. Mendez: Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Hardemon: If I may, Mr. Chairman?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Ms. Mendez: That is a good way; `for causes " are articulated by the board, just like --
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Hardemon: That -- I mean, that was one of the parts of this that I was not in
agreeance [sic] with, and the way that I look at it, when you look at "C" and "D" together --
well, and I take a look at "C" first -- if -- say, for instance, I make an appointment and members
of the Commission believe I shouldn't have made that appointment. Just with a simple majority,
they remove my appointment. I don't think that's fair to the Commissioners that are here if we're
trying to make that appointment. So the only thing that I would ask is that if we were to do it
with cause -- because it's unusual. I mean, I think it's unusual to remove someone from such a
committee with or without cause -- that we make it a four -fifths vote, so at least, ifI was the
person that made the appointment --
Commissioner Suarez: Let me say --
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- I can still say, "Well, I don't want it," but if the Commission --
Commissioner Suarez: Okay, well --
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- thought that they believed so much in it.
Commissioner Suarez: -- super majority, that's fine with me. I'll accept that, a friendly
amendment.
Ms. Mendez: So --
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Ms. Mendez: -- 'for causes " articulated by the board --
Commissioner Suarez: Requires --
Ms. Mendez: -- and a four -fifths.
Commissioner Suarez: -- a four -fifths vote.
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Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Hardemon: And the other -- the only other thing as far as "D, " the vacancies, as it
reads today, it seems to me that the vacancies -- if I have a vacancy because -- for instance --
let's be real time -- Commissioner Carollo has a vacan -- two vacancies, correct; 'cause you
haven't made your appointments yet?
Commissioner Carollo: Will be after we take this vote.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay. So with the two vacancies, the way it reads to me, that if there is a
vacancy, the Commission can fill those seats and not necessarily the Commissioner who hasn't
made his appointments, andl want to be able to safeguard our Commissioners' appointments.
You see?
Ms. Mendez: Now -- yes, but do you want it then to be more clear that the --
Commissioner Suarez: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) clear.
Ms. Mendez: -- appointment will be by the appointing Commissioner with ratification by the
Commission?
Commissioner Suarez: Exactly.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Yes.
Chair Gort: That's the way it is in all the boards.
Commissioner Suarez: Right. Yeah, I understand what he's saying.
Vice Chair Hardemon: It didn't read that way.
Ms. Mendez: We just -- we take it for granted, and I apologize.
Commissioner Carollo: And it shouldn't just be Commissioners; it should be the Mayor's and the
City Manager's appointee also.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah, yeah.
Ms. Mendez: Right, correct; by the appointing member --
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Ms. Mendez: -- with ratification by the Commission.
Commissioner Suarez: That's good.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion?
Commissioner Suarez: No.
Chair Gort: Okay, it's a resolution. All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
Commissioner Suarez: As amended.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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Ms. Mendez: As amended.
Chair Gort: As amended.
END OF RESOLUTIONS
BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
RESOLUTION
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE ARTS AND
ENTERTAINMENT COUNCIL FOR A TERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Mike Margulies Mayor Tomas Regalado
14-00845 Arts CCMemo.pdf
14-00845 Arts Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0397
A motion was made by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Mike Margulies as a member of the Arts and Entertainment
Council; further waiving the attendance requirements in Section 2-886 of the Code of the City of
Miami, as amended, by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of the members of the City Commission, as it
relates to past absences on record for Mike Margulies as a member of the Arts and
Entertainment Council.
Chair Gort: BC (Boards & Committees) items.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.1. Good morning, Commissioners.
Chair Gort: Good morning.
Ms. Ewan: BC.1, Arts & Entertainment Council. Mayor Regalado will be reappointing Mike
Margulies with a four fifth attendance waiver.
Commissioner Suarez: So move.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez; second by --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Sarnoff.
Chair Gort: -- Commissioner Sarnoff. All in favor, state it by saying "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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RESOLUTION
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
BC.3
14-00966
Office of the City
Clerk
BC.4
14-00990
APPOINTEES:
14-00964 Audit CCMemo.pdf
14-00964 Audit Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
RESOLUTION
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Francis Suarez
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE BAYFRONT PARK
MANAGEMENT TRUST FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Frank Carollo
14-00966 Bayfront CCMemo.pdf
14-00966 Bayfront Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
RESOLUTION
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW AND
REFORM COMMITTEE FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
W. Tucker Gibbs Commissioner Frank Carollo
George Knox Commissioner Frank Carollo
14-00990 Charter Review CCMemo.pdf
14-00990 Charter Review Current_Board_Members.pdf
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Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0398
A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint George Knox as a member of the Charter Review and Reform
Committee, further waiving the City resident, work in the City, or own property in the City
requirements expressed in Resolution R-14-0396, Section 4(7)(e), by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of
the members of the full City Commission, as it relates to George Knox as a member of the
Charter Review and Reform Committee.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.5 [sicJ, Charter Review & Reform Committee. I
believe Commissioner Carollo has some appointments.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes. My first appointment will be Tucker Gibbs, and my second
appointee, I'm going to need a waiver for residency; although he was a former City Attorney for
quite some time, and that would be Mr. George Knox.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved, or second.
Commissioner Carollo: The -- I make the motion.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah, I second it.
Chair Gort: Motion by Commissioner Carollo; second by Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: It's a great board.
Chair Gort: All in favor, state it by saying 1 ye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Commissioner Carollo: And that's with a four -fifth for --
Ms. Ewan: That's with a four -fifth residency waiver, correct.
Commissioner Carollo: -- Mr. Knox. Thank you.
Ms. Ewan: You're welcome.
BC.5 RESOLUTION
14-00967
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CONFIRMING THE
Clerk APPOINTMENT OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE
CIVILIAN INVESTIGATIVE PANEL FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED
HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Civilian Investigative Panel
Civilian Investigative Panel
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Chief of Police
14-00967 CIP CCMemo.pdf
14-00967 CIP Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00967 CIP Memo and Resumes.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.6 RESOLUTION
14-00304
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
(Alternate Member)
(Alternate Member)
14-00304 CEB CCMemo.pdf
14-00304 CEB Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.7 RESOLUTION
14-00851
NOMINATED BY:
Commission -At -Large
Commission -At -Large
Commission -At -Large
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
RELATIONS BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Andres Lemos Mayor Tomas Regalado
Carlos Morales Mayor Tomas Regalado
Lyse Cuellar -Vidal Mayor Tomas Regalado
14-00851 CRB CCMemo.pdf
14-00851 CRB Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00851 CRB Memo and Resumes.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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R-14-0399
A motion was made by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Andres Lemos, Carlos Morales, and Lyse Cuellar -Vidal as
members of the Community Relations Board; further waiving the attendance requirements in
Section 2-886 of the Code of the City of Miami, as amended, by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of the
members of the full City Commission, as it relates to past absences on record for Andres Lemos,
Carlos Morales, and Lyse Cuellar -Vidal as members of the Community Relations Board.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC. 7, Community Relations Board. Mayor Regalado
will be reappointing Andres Lemos, Carlos Morales and Lyse Cuellar. All appointees require a
four -fifth attendance waiver.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Suarez; second by Commissioner Carollo. Any
discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.8 RESOLUTION
14-00393
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS OF WOMEN FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Chair Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Chair Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
14-00393 CSW CCMemo.pdf
14-00393 CSW Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.9 RESOLUTION
14-00850
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WAIVING THE
Clerk RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT BY A FOUR -FIFTHS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, AS
IT RELATES TO SAMAIYAH ENGRAM AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION
ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN.
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14-00850 CSW CCMemo.pdf
14-00850 CSW Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00850 CSW Residency Compliance Form.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.10 RESOLUTION
14-00852
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CONFIRMING THE
Clerk APPOINTMENT OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE
DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY (DDA) FOR TERMS AS
DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
Jose Goyanes
(Term 9/1/2014 through 8/31/2018)
Alan Ojeda
(Term 9/1/2014 through 8/31/2016)
Alvin West
(Term 9/1/2014 through 8/31/2018)
Kim Stone
(Term 9/1/2014 through 8/31/2018)
14-00852 DDA CCMemo.pdf
14-00852 DDA Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00852 DDA Memo and Resumes.pdf
NOMINATED BY:
DDA Board of Directors
DDA Board of Directors
DDA Board of Directors
DDA Board of Directors
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0400
A motion was made by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Jose Goyanes and Alvin West as members of the Downtown
Development Authority; further waiving the term limits of Section 14-52(c) by a unanimous (5/5)
vote of the members of the City Commission, as it relates to Jose Goyanes and Alvin West as
members of the Downtown Development Authority.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.10, Downtown Development Authority. The DDA
(Downtown Development Authority) Board is requesting confirmation of the following members:
Jose Goyanes, with a five -five term waiver; Alan Ojeda; Alvin West, with a five five term waiver
and Kim Stone.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
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Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Suarez; second by Commissioner Carollo and
Sarnoff. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CONFIRMING THE
APPOINTMENT OF NEISEN KASDIN AS A MEMBER OF THE
DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY (DDA) FORATERMAS
DESIGNATED HEREIN.
14-00853 DDA CCMemo.pdf
14-00853 DDA Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00853 DDA Memos and Resume.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0401
A motion was made by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Neisen Kasdin as a member of the Downtown Development
Authority; further waiving the term limits of Section 14-52(c) by a unanimous (5/5) vote of the
members of the City Commission, as it relates to Neisen Kasdin as a member of the Downtown
Development Authority.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.11, Downtown Development Authority; it's for the
confirmation of Mr. Neisen Kasdin. Mr. Kasdin was appointed by former Governor Jeb Bush.
On May 27, the State of Florida was informed of the request by the DDA (Downtown
Development Authority) Board to reappoint Mr. Kasdin; however, the State has failed to act on
the appointment. Pursuant to Section 14-52(b) (6) of the City of Miami Code, if the cabinet of the
State fails to act within 30 days from the date of the request by the DDA Board, the board may
appoint the proposed member. The DDA Board has acted pursuant to the Code, and this
appointment is before you today for confirmation.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Suarez; second by Commissioner Carollo. Any
further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE EDUCATION ADVISORY
BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
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APPOINTEES:
(Ex-Officio Non Voting Member)
(Ex-Officio Non Voting Youth Member)
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14-00976 EAB Resume.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.13 RESOLUTION
14-00862
NOMINATED BY:
City Manager Daniel J. Alfonso
City Manager Daniel J. Alfonso
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
ADVISORY BOARD FORA TERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Corey Taylor AFSCME 871
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14-00862 EOAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00862 EOAB Memo and Resume.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0402
A motion was made by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Corey Taylor as a member of the Equal Opportunity Advisory
Board; further waiving the attendance requirements in Section 2-886 of the Code of the City of
Miami, as amended, by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of the members of the City Commission, as it
relates to past absences on record for Corey Taylor as a member of the Equal Opportunity
Advisory Board.
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC. 13, Equal Opportunity Advisory Board. AFSCME
(American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees) 871 is requesting the
reappointment of Corey Taylor with a four -fifth attendance waiver.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Suarez; second by Commissioner Carollo. Any
further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
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The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Hardemon: I do think that Corey Taylor said that he wanted to be a district
Commissioner, and I believe his address was in -- within my --
Commissioner Suarez: Oh, really?
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- district. Thought that was pretty funny.
Commissioner Suarez: I didn't know that.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Good, though, but funny.
BC.14 RESOLUTION
14-00979
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE
FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Vice Chair Keon Hardemon
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Francis Suarez
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14-00979 Finance Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.15 RESOLUTION
14-00865
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND
DEFENSE/NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM
OVERSIGHT BOARD FORATERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Albena Sumner Mayor Tomas Regalado
14-00865 Homeland CCMemo.pdf
14-00865 Homeland Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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R-14-0403
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.15, Homeless [sic] Defense/Neighborhood
Improvement Bond Program Oversight Board. Mayor Regalado will be reappointing Albena
Sumner.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Carollo; second by Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Don't tell me she wants to be a Commissioner, too.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Probably.
Chair Gort: Okay, any further discussion?
Vice Chair Hardemon: Probably.
Chair Gort: All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.16 RESOLUTION
14-00869
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE MAYOR'S
INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Barry Johnson Mayor Tomas Regalado
Jose Fuentes Mayor Tomas Regalado
Armando Rodriguez Mayor Tomas Regalado
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14-00869 MIC Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0404
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.16, Mayors International Council. Mayor Regalado
will be reappointing Barry Johnson, Jose Fuentes and Armando Rodriguez.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
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Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Carollo; second by Commissioner Suarez. Any
discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.17 RESOLUTION
14-00396
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND
EXHIBITION AUTHORITY FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
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14-00396 MSEA Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.18 RESOLUTION
14-00982
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND
APPEALS BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Vice Chair Keon Hardemon
Vice Chair Keon Hardemon
14-00982 PZAB CCMemo.pdf
14-00982 PZAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
14-00982 PZAB Applications.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.19 RESOLUTION
14-00313
Office ofthe City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REVIEW BOARD (UDRB) FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
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Chair Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Francis Suarez
14-00313 UDRB CCMemo.pdf
14-00313 UDRB Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
BC.20 RESOLUTION
14-00867
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE VIRGINIA KEY BEACH
PARK TRUST FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
BC.21
14-00983
Office of the City
Clerk
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Frank Carollo
14-00867 VKBPT CCMemo.pdf
14-00867 VKBPT Current_Board_Members.pdf
NO ACTION TAKEN
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE WATERFRONT
ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Lucia Perez Mayor Tomas Regalado
14-00983 WAB CCMemo.pdf
14-00983 WAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
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DI.1
14-00896
City Commission
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
R-14-0405
Nicole N. Ewan (Assistant City Clerk): BC.21, Waterfront Advisory Board. Mayor Regalado will
be reappointing Lucia Perez.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Commissioner Sarnoff Second
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Carollo; second by Commissioner Suarez. Any
further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Ewan: Thank you, Chair and Commissioners.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: That was a record. She's unbelievable, unbelievable.
END OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
DISCUSSION ITEMS
DISCUSSION ITEM
STATUS OF HIRING POLICE OFFICERS.
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DISCUSSED
Chair Gort: DI.1. Chief you're up.
Manuel Orosa (Chief of Police): From our last Commission meeting, we've hired three officers,
including a certified officer, and we have a total of 92 officers hired year to date, and with the
creation of the newly -- 80 new positions, we now have a total of 93 sworn vacancies and we
have two officers awaiting medical; 18 other going through the polygraph and background, and
37 going through the psychological testing, which means that those 37, more than likely -- more
than -- close to all but a very few will be passing on and making it to being a police officer.
That's the last stage of the testing.
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff Chief we've --when we were allowed -- an allocation of 1,179 officers,
we got to as close to 14 down.
Chief Orosa: Thirteen.
Commissioner Sarnoff And we've gone backwards now to 20 down from that allocated number.
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Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff Now, we, of course, have the 80 that we allocated for this fiscal year.
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff So now we're at 100 down, so to speak.
Chief Orosa: Yeah. Every time I catch up, you guys make my job a little --
Commissioner Sarnoff No, I got it, I get it.
Chief Orosa: -- difficult, but it's in a good situation.
Commissioner Sarnoff So now my question to you is: Of the -- I guess it's 20 below 11 -- so of
the 1,159 officers, how many of those do you count that are in the academy as we speak?
Chief Orosa: There's nearly 80 in the academy, and they're going to be coming out of the
academy January, March -- January, February, March, and a little bit in April. So by the
beginning of the quarter of next year, you will have a large amount of officers available to be
reassigned to patrol and to other functions.
Commissioner Sarnoff And so capturing that number again, being at 1,159, how many are in
the academy, you said?
Chief Orosa: I want to say about 72, 74.
Commissioner Sarnoff So let's just use a round number of 70. Of the 1,159, that includes those
70?
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff So as Commissioners, we're not really feeling them, 'cause they're not
really on the street.
Chief Orosa: You're going to be feeling them beginning of next year, believe me, when you have
close to 80 officers out in the street. And remember, as -- we still have approximately -- about
250 applicants from the final list, from the last list that we -- still going through. I'm quite sure
there's some certified officers there. As soon as we get to those, if they make it to the end, those
will be on the street faster than the four months it takes.
Commissioner Sarnoff Do me a favor, if you would. Just go through -- not the people in the
academy, but the people who are -- you're processing to see whether they will, inevitably, be
police officers. Where do you stand with that?
Chief Orosa: We are -- we -- by November, we expect to make an announcement for new
recruiting. We expect to open it up the beginning of November; maybe close it within a week or
so and then -- while continuing to work the list, and that list will -- We'll probably finish the
current list sometime in November. So we will finish one list and have another list ready to go.
Commissioner Sarnoff All right. So the list we're working on right now --
Chief Orosa: Correct.
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Commissioner Sarnoff -- just give me your raw numbers on that.
Chief Orosa: We have, I believe, about 200 that we are going to be inviting for a orientation,
and then we still have -- 37 plus 18 -- we have 40 -- 55 in the final stages of the process.
Commissioner Sarnoff So there is a -- here's what I'm hearing, and I don't know if the others
hear it this way -- list of 200 people --
Chief Orosa: Mm-hmm.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- that you're inviting for orientation.
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff And I guess orientation means you like them enough to invite them out
on a date.
Chief Orosa: Orientation is when we bring them in and tell them what we expect of them, and all
the information we need from them in order to start the background investigation.
Commissioner Sarnoff All right. So that hasn't gone on. So you're not -- so orientation is not
even at background, and background --
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- psychological, physical agility washes out what percentage of your
applicants?
Chief Orosa: We usually hiring anywhere from 10 to 12 percent of the applicants.
Commissioner Sarnoff All right. So of this 200 list --
Chief Orosa: You can safely assume you're going to get --
Commissioner Carollo: Twenty.
Commissioner Sarnoff Twenty.
Chief Orosa: Twenty.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay, so now, you mentioned the number 55. You did some
calculations, 18 --
Chief Orosa: Yes. Eighteen undergoing psychological and then there's another 37 more going
through the background.
Commissioner Sarnoff Those 55, were they included in that 200?
Chief Orosa: No.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay. So you have 55 people that are at a different stage.
Chief Orosa: Correct; at the stage where the likelihood of them being disqualified is lower than
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any other stage before.
Commissioner Sarnoff So would you say there's a 10 percent washout rate from that one so you
could --?
Chief Orosa: No, no.
Commissioner Sarnoff Less than that?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Chief Orosa: Whole washout, you mean.
Commissioner Sarnoff Well, that --
Chief Orosa: Yes, yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- for one reason or another, you're not --
Chief Orosa: Yes, yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- going to hire them.
Chief Orosa: I thought you meant higher --
Commissioner Sarnoff. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) "washout" does mean something different; I
apologize.
Chief Orosa: No, no, no, no. Yes, you're absolutely right, I -- because we were talking earlier
about what percentages make it and I said 10 percent, I got confused when you said 10 percent
washout. Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff So let me ask the question more broad -based: Of the 55 police -- of the
55 candidates -- I think that's probably what you call them still -- how many do you anticipate
would get hired?
Chief Orosa: The majority of them; probably -- from the 55, probably 45 to 50.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay. So using your lower number of 45, when would the 45 be
employed by the City of Miami?
Chief Orosa: By the end of this month.
Commissioner Sarnoff By the end of this month. And of those 45, how many of them are
certified and how many of them need to go to school?
Chief Orosa: That, I do not have; I can get that to you.
Commissioner Sarnoff. That's a big difference, isn't it?
Chief Orosa: I can get that to you.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay, okay. So we can anticipate approximately 45 to 50 police officers
hired by Halloween; end of this month is Halloween.
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Chief Orosa: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay, and then you can anticipate on the "A" list that you're working
on, "A" list, you have 200 that you're inviting for orientation; we could anticipate another 20.
Chief Orosa: Twenty, 25, correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay.
Chief Orosa: And those we're anticipating, by the end of the year, we'll be completely done with
that list.
Commissioner Sarnoff So it is feasible that you could have between 65 and 70 officers --
Chief Orosa: By January 1.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- by January 1.
Chief Orosa: And by that time, we would have started the new list.
Commissioner Sarnoff And just walk me briefly through the new list. How long will that -- it
opens, you said, November 1, if my notes are correct?
Chief Orosa: More or less. I don't want you to --
Commissioner Sarnoff Yeah, you don't want to tell me a date.
Chief Orosa: -- a date, because there's different factors involved with that.
Commissioner Sarnoff Right. So by November 1 -- sorry -- by the beginning of November.
Chief Orosa: November. It will take a -- we usually open it up for a week, or by the time we get
a thousand or 1,200 applicants. Usually, we get the applicants faster than the week. So we shut
it down. It'll take HR (Human Resources) probably about a week to give us a list of candidates,
and what HR does is HR basically ensures that whatever is needed on the actual application
process, it's there for us, and they'll give us a list without -- with -- and they put the veterans up
on top, and City employees, and City residents next, and then everybody else. And then we get
the list and we break it into batches, and we usually bring in 250 for orientation. We tell them
what we need, and as soon as those individuals start providing us the documents, we start the
background on them. Those 250 will take us probably about two month -- two and a half months
into three months, and then we'll bring in another 250, and so we go until the end of the list.
Commissioner Sarnoff So of that list -- so before we get past 65 to 70, we should be somewhere
-- just my calculation would put us somewhere around June or July before you had another
probably 30 to 40 hires.
Chief Orosa: Correct. No; more.
Commissioner Sarnoff Longer?
Chief Orosa: Yeah, because out of 250, let's say it's a ratio of 25. By June or July, you will have
two 250's, which may be about 50 officers, plus what we're finishing up now. You'll be close to
fully staffed with the 80 new officers the Commission has so graciously gave us.
Commissioner Sarnoff Right; should be by the end of the summer.
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Chief Orosa: Correct, hopefully.
Commissioner Sarnoff Right.
Chief Orosa: With the plan being that once you're there, we're at a rate that once the attrition
starts and people go on their DROP's (Deferred Retirement Option Plan) and start leaving, the
blow is not that significant, and we can continue hiring, because we already have the machinery
and the list going on forward, so even though we reach at -- we reach maximum staffing, we need
to continue just so that when attrition hits, we don't feel the blow.
Commissioner Sarnoff So that's a fair question maybe -- maybe not even for you and probably
not even for me, but certainly for the Manager. Are you going to overstaff the Police
Department, knowing -- I believe in 2015/16 fiscal year, I think 150 police officers leave; is that
right?
Chief Orosa: I want to say 147.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay. No, that was good, that was good. I like you.
Chair Gort: Let me ask you a question a minute. Does the applicant have a minimum
requirement?
Chief Orosa: Yes.
Chair Gort: Okay, so --
Chief Orosa: And the minimum requirement, that's what HR looks for that first week after the
applications are closed, and they look for that, and the ones that do not have it --
Chair Gort: They're out. Okay.
Chief Orosa: -- they're out.
Commissioner Sarnoff So is there -- Mr. Manager, then, if, in fact, 150 or 147 police officers --
let me correct it -- are going to be leaving in the '15/16 fiscal year --
Chief Orosa: 'Fifteen is a small amount; '16, bigger amount; '17, the big year, right.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay. So do we know who's leaving in '15/16, how many?
Chief Orosa: Jaime, you got the numbers?
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): Commissioner, what I can tell you is that we will plan for the
recruitment of staff so that as people leave, we are ready to replace, as we have been doing, for
example, with the Fire Department. Currently, we have 50 firefighters going through an
academy, and the overall account actually exceeded for a few days the allotted amount, but as
people leave, it comes into the proper number.
Commissioner Sarnoff How many are leaving in '15/16?
Chief Orosa: We're in a good situation, actually. Next year, we have a total of 19 that are
supposed to finish the DROP, but after that, maybe another five to 10 people that decide to
leave, people that screw up and get fired; things of that nature. And then the following year, it's
65; and then '17 is the big one with 134.
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Commissioner Sarnoff I'm sorry, '15/16's 20, let's say, or 25; '16/17 is how many?
Chief Orosa: Sixty-five, and then '17 is the big year with 134.
Mr. Alfonso: And the number keeps changing. I mean, one of the reasons why we actually went
down a few this week from the last Commission meeting was that seven people that are in the
DROP left; they left early; they didn't go until the end. So I think that it'll probably smooth out a
little more between now and then. Some people will leave before the end of their DROP.
Commissioner Sarnoff No, I --
Chief Orosa: And the good thing, Commissioner, about the DROP is that we know for sure how
many people are leaving that we can plan for. So you really don't need to budget that much
money for that attrition, because since you have the plan, you know exactly, more or less, who's
leaving. So as attrition takes effect, you're still hiring, because they don't come on payroll until
they're finished with the hiring process. So as this one leaves, this one gets hired; this one
leaves, this one gets hired.
Commissioner Sarnoff And my question, Chief is, really: "Is there an overlap process?"
Probably for two reasons: One is budgetary and the second is some sort of a transition.
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff And I just want to know that there's a plan budgetarily [sic] and
transition -wise that I guess could be said that your Police Department, by '17 or '18 could be 50,
60 percent new officers. And when I call it a "new officer," a four- to five-year officer; might be
the age of your significant, average, median mean off cer.
Chief Orosa: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff And my question is: With such a young department -- so obviously, their
ability to run after criminals is good -- but their experience level of maybe knowing a criminal
from a non -criminal may not be the same. I'm just thinking a seasoned officer --
Chief Orosa: But looking ahead to that, we already started planning for that, you know. In the
last budget cycle -- not "budget cycle" -- in the last promotion of sergeants, the Manager
allowed me to over promote by 17. So, you know, looking forward, if we continue to have those
types of situations, we can always over -promote and -- to keep with the growing police force.
Out of the 18 that you all gave me, a certain amount -- it's not going to be 80 officers -- it's going
to be, for example, 65 with a few sergeants and a couple of lieutenants thrown in there so that
they can -- as the department grows, we also grow the supervisory ranks.
Commissioner Sarnoff Right. And just to go down that rabbit hole for a moment, obviously,
you know, I -- your time is limited, my time is limited. I guess everybody's time is limited to some
degree, but we certainly want to have a better clearance rate than we've been generating, as
well, so I'm not up here telling you where to put them or how to put them. You know, I assume
your predecessor [sic] will decide where to put them and how to put them.
Chief Orosa: Correct. All I was able to do is -- because I won't be here when all these 80 get
hire -- get --
Commissioner Suarez: "Successor, " not "predecessor."
Commissioner Sarnoff I'm sorry, you're right. I'm sorry.
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Mr. Alfonso: Yeah. I don't think we want to bring back the predecessor.
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay, I apologize. It was a faux pas.
Chief Orosa: Thank you very much, sir. So I already sent a -- more or less of a plan of where
these 80 should be --
Commissioner Sarnoff Okay.
Chief Orosa: -- assigned to, and that is also an increase in the investigative ranks that you had a
concern about and -- but like I said, whoever is filling my shoes next time, they're going to have
to -- the decision of whether they decide to go along with it or not, you know, they'll make that
decision.
Commissioner Sarnoff And last thing, Mr. Chair, if you don't mind?
Chair Gort: Sure, go ahead.
Commissioner Sarnoff And this is something I've not -- I can only talk to my colleagues up here
about the -- well, I guess I -- probably best place to address this. As you can see, there's a
significant increase in crime in the Gables, or at least as the Herald reports, and I'm -- as we
ramp up, crime, I suspect, moves, as you put forces towards it, and it could very well be that
we're pushing -- not purposely -- but we're pushing crime towards the Gables. Would it not be
useful for maybe the Gables Commission and us to get together in some sort of a joint effort
where -- that we sit as a Commission addressing crime? 'Cause I don't think it's our intention up
here to feel good about ourselves and say, "Well, we've pushed the crime out of Miami," when
all we've done is push it to the Gables, and then the Gables will ramp up, and they will inevitably
push the crime back to Miami. I mean, this is part and parcel of the problems of fractional
municipalities so that we can all be on the same strategies to some degree. It just seems to me it
would make sense for the City of Miami and the Gables to have some sort of a -- I don't want to
call it "a joint task force," 'cause I don't want to use words that you should be using or the next
successor to be using, but would it be useful for us to sit together and try to come up with a
strategy?
Chief Orosa: And, you know, I'm open to that and --
Chair Gort: Let me open the question a little bit more; let me expand on that. My understanding
is we did sign an agreement with the City of Coral Gables, but my understanding is we also have
the Association of Chiefs of Police, which I think somehow, that association's got to make some
kind of agreement so we can all work on a team, 'cause whatever happens on one side of the
neighborhood is going to happen in the other side of the neighborhood, and we have to take care
of it as a complex for everything.
Chief Orosa: Mm-hmm. And, Commissioner, that's a -- I guess it's a political decision that this
body and the body of Coral Gables -- if they wish to do that, I'm fine with it. I get along with the
interim Chief Ed Hudak, very well. So we've had conversations before. The only thing that I
would recommend as an unintended consequence is that we helped the Gables, and now we have
to go help West Miami and South Miami and -- as the Gables pushes it further west.
Commissioner Sarnoff Well, as they say, Chief as you put it further away from your borders, it's
-- the Gables is like our neighbor and I -- you know, I'll certainly defer to my Commissioners up
here, but it just seems like it might be a good issue and maybe some cooperation beyond some
contemplated agreement at a more political level, and I'll certainly throw that ball over to the --
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Chief Orosa: And I already -- in conversations with Ed, I already told Ed that whatever he needs
from us, we'll be more than happy to help him. But if it's more of a long-term type of effort, you
know, whatever this body decides to do and the body of Coral Gables, I'll be more than happy to
join in and help.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I just want to say briefly that we've done it very successfully
already in -- on 8th Street with the prostitution issue where we've had to create a task force with
the County, West Miami, Coral Gables, because the prostitutes understand the different
jurisdictions and, actually, will utilize that so that they can continue to operate and cross the
street when need be when we're doing an operation, et cetera, et cetera. So I think that it makes
eminent sense that we not be pushing crime into either city, because what ends up happening is
we push it one way, they push it back, we push it one way, and so all we're doing is, you know,
pushing the crime one way or the other. I know that -- I could tell you in my district, which is
very east/west, I oftentimes feel that I'm pushing crime east/west; in other words, when I get to
Flagami and the complaints are in Flagami, we hit -- we put the PST's (Problem Solving Team)
in there and we start cracking heads, for lack of a better word, phraseology. And then all of a
sudden, the crime stops there, and then in Shenandoah, I start getting the calls. So sometimes, I
get the impression that we push crime east/west. So I think you're right. I think we should talk to
them, because I think what we want to do -- because Coral Gables almost sits in the middle,
actually, if you think about it, because my district goes up to the eastern boundary of Coral
Gables and it goes all along the northern boundary of Coral Gables. So to the east and the
north, I completely surround Coral Gables. On the southern boundary, I think you are -- you
know, you are touching it almost exclusively, as well, so it kind of sits in the middle of the City.
Commissioner Sarnoff I also think it would be a very interesting hour, two, three, meeting,
whether we sit with their Commission on their dais, or they sit over here. I think it shares a very
strong desire by this community, and I mean this community, probably bigger than Miami, that
we really want to get our act together. And, you know, it's one thing for bureaucrats to sit there
-- a Chief or Assistant Chiefs or Commanders to say, "We're cooperating." It's another thing for
the political body to acknowledge what goes on and ask their -- I don't want to call you
"bureaucrats, " but your Chiefs of Police, your Administration to follow what the jurisdictional
body wants, which is, let's not just push crime into each other's neighborhood. Let's defeat
crime. Maybe Kathy Rundle sits there; maybe Willy Ferre sits there; maybe that's part of a
meeting that we should have, 'cause I -- I don't know that it's ever happened before. I don't
remember the Coral Gables Commission ever sitting with the City of Miami Commission. I don't
remember Kathy Rundle sitting in the audience. I don't remember Willy Ferre sitting in the
audience. And I may be missing some folks that should be sitting there; maybe ATF (Alcohol,
Tobacco & Firearms) should be sitting there; maybe some other folks should be sitting there.
And I think it sends a message that both jurisdictions want to get tough on crime and clean up
and provide a quality of life that -- I call it "the Miami callus." I'm sure Coral Gables has what
I call "the Coral Gables callus," which is, "What's the big deal? Your house was only broken
into once, " or "You only lost a bicycle, " and "So what; your car was broken into for the third
time?" It's -- I hear that all the time, so I just bring that up. I think it'd be a great idea. I think
we should think about it. I'd ask the Manager to consider putting us together. I would ask you
to invite Willy Ferre. I would ask you -- and I'm -- this is just my thinking; if anybody wants to,
join in it -- have Kathy Rundle there, because pushing it back and forth is not a solution for
anyone.
Chief Orosa: I would just recommend one thing, Commissioner. Remember, they don't have a
Manager, and it's going to be a little bit difficult --
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Commissioner Sarnoff Somebody's managing something there, so.
Chief Orosa: Well -- but I'd rather wait for them to have a permanent Manager there, because
what an interim may do right now may not be what the next person wants.
Commissioner Suarez: But I -- and with all due respect to the Chief, I would kind of disagree,
because they have a permanent problem right now, which is a permanent crime problem.
Chief Orosa: Right.
Commissioner Suarez: And it is very, very bad. I mean, if you saw the graph that the Herald
published --
Chief Orosa: Yeah?
Commissioner Suarez: -- with the number of crimes in the area, it's a big problem. And what I'm
concerned about is if that problem gets pushed to our City, to Flagami, which is right next door;
or to the Grove, which is on the other side; or to Coral Gate or to wherever, that's going to
become our problem. So I think it behooves us to act now rather than to wait. No offense, Chief.
I just think --
Chief Orosa: No, none taken.
Commissioner Suarez: You know, I just think we really can't wait. I mean, the fact that they
have their political houses kind of -- you know, not in 100 percent order -- you know, we just --
this is going to become our problem. If they start acting proactively in Coral Gables like we act
proactively when there's a crime issue, that means that those guys are going to go like this, so the
criminals are going to become our criminals, and then we're going to have to -- we're going to
have another crime spree on our hands.
Chair Gort: It's got to be a joint venture with all these cities and -- the elected officials; they
might not have a Manager, but elected officials can tell them what they want to have that.
Chief Orosa: Okay.
Chair Gort: And I think we need -- it's about time we start doing that, and not only the cities, but
the County. We all have to get involved. I mean, crime, like it was stated before, it moves from
one neighborhood to another neighborhood. You can tell. It's the same thing with the homeless.
You put pressure on one part and they go to the other side of the other town. So somehow they --
my recommendation is the Chief Associations -- you have all the Chief of Police in that
association; am I correct? I mean, I'm not a police officer.
Chief Orosa: Yes.
Chair Gort: I can't tell what kind of plan should be put together, and I think you all should be
coming up with a plan, and we'll take care of the -- talking to the elected officials to make sure
that it gets done.
Commissioner Sarnoff Also, does anybody up here think it would not be a good idea to sit with
the Gables?
Chair Gort: It's a great idea.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
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Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. Being consistent with my position in my almost five years
here, I always say dialogue and discussion is good, so I don't see any drawback from actually
meeting with them. At the same time, I think the County does need to be involved, and I sort of
disagree that maybe we're pushing crime into the Gables. I know they had an issue with regards
to reporting, and maybe they're just seeing what their actual stats are, as opposed to what was
being told before. And I'll be honest with you. I don't necessarily agree that we're pushing our
crime into the Gables. I think, in all fairness, we haven't really fixed our problem yet. We're
getting there and it's getting better, but you cannot tell me that all the various residents that
came before us, pretty much demanding that we add police officers -- I think if you asked them
right now, they won't tell you that our crime problem is fixed and it went to the Gables. So I
disagree with that. I still think we have an issue, and not just the areas that border the Gables. I
think in the whole City of Miami in different areas, from the Grove to Liberty City to Little
Havana. And I know it hasn't -- it did come out in the Herald online, but just yesterday, there
were numerous arrests from a location in Little Havana that -- over 20 individuals?
Chief Orosa: Twenty-one.
Commissioner Carollo: Twenty-one. Over 20 individuals were -- as a matter of fact, you know
what? I'll yield to the Chief. You have better information on this. I'll let you give the news. But
-- and my point is that, no, we haven't rid of all crimes in the City of Miami and it's now going to
the Gables. I don't believe with that statement. I believe we still have an issue. We are
addressing it, little by little, and maybe not as fast as I would like to, but I'll yield to the Chief.
And I don't see any drawbacks from having discussion with other municipalities, but I do think
that we need to think a little bit bigger and make sure that the County is involved and so forth.
Chief, if you would, could you mention a little bit of -- 'cause I don't know how much you can or
cannot say with regards to the raids but --
Commissioner Suarez: I don't mean to cut -- I don't mean to --
Chair Gort: Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. I just wanted to say that the Miami Herald reported what
they reported. And I want to -- before you say give us more detail, fill us in on what exactly
transpired, I want to commend you, because I think the bottom line is that -- first of all, I agree
with your point. Your point is that we haven't fixed our crime problem. Clearly, we haven't. If
we had, we would not be hiring, you know, the kind of -- the numbers of officers that we need to
hire. So that's a point that I wholeheartedly agree with. I still think the coordination is a good
idea, and I think that what you're about to explain shows precisely why coordination is
important, because that was a cross -agency coordination, and I commend you for doing it, and I
think it was extremely successful, and I just wanted to say that before you gave us some more
detail. Thank you.
Chief Orosa: The case started about a year and change ago, and it was based on some
complaints that we were receiving, and we were sending it to our gang unit, and the gang unit
started doing surveillances, and making drug buys, making gun buys, and all of a sudden, it
mushroomed, and we needed assistance, so we reached out to ATF and the Federal agencies
came on board. And like I said it lasted a little bit over a year, and it culminated with warrants
yesterday for 21 individuals; four had already been in custody from a previous arrest involving a
car jacking, and they had pled guilty to those charges, and now they just were zapped again with
the superseding indictment. So a total of 21 individuals were arrested for various charges, but
all of them involved in a racketeering statute of minor crimes; minor in the Feds' eyes; not minor
in our eyes. And they are all, believe it or not, looking at life imprisonment. So I think it's a very
successful story, and in the Federal system, the majority of them are going to get convicted, or
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they're going to plead, because they don't want to get stuck with life imprisonment, and they're
going to be gone for a long time. And this was a group that controlled an area of Little Havana.
They would be so brazen that they would put threats in Facebook, in Twitter, and "Don't come
in; this is our area," and they dealt in guns, Mollies and crack cocaine. And it spread; the group
was spreading to Allapattah, as well, so that portion of it is all gone now. And we do have three
fugitives that our Marshal's Office and our FAT (Felony Apprehension Team) Squad is behind
their trails to get them to justice.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: And the Chief saying that, I want to commend you and all of your staff,
and also being able to work with the other agencies. You know, it's something that, as you know,
my office kept getting calls from residents, and they kept pointing to the same location. And I'm
glad -- unfortunately, it took some time, but these investigations does take time in order to get the
evidence needed.
Chief Orosa: And the part of the starting of that were based on complaints from your office .
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. So I'm really, you know, appreciative of the work that you and all
your staff did. And I guess at the same time, it shows that we can work together with other
agencies and get the job done. And when you call and complain about crime, we are working
towards fixing the problem; however, sometimes, it does take time, 'cause I know these
investigations -- you know, everybody needs their due process, so they will have to go to trial
now. But I feel comfortable that with the evidence that was gathered, we'll be able to get
convictions, and they'll be gone for a very, very long time. I just want to mention also that again,
with the tone of working as a team, yesterday, I had the honor of speaking with Mr. Ferrer, and
he -- we mentioned about the arrests in the case and working together, which he spoke very
highly of you, Chief and he mentioned that it was great to be able to work as a team, and that
this does not have to stop. He really welcomes the proactive attitude, and he is really looking
forward to continuing to work with us, so I think that's a big plus.
Chief Orosa: And Commissioner, I can't go into many details, but we do continue to work with
him. We have other cases around the City that need to be wrapped up, but that'll be for another
day.
Commissioner Carollo: Understood Chief. And again, that's why I yielded to you explaining,
so I wouldn't speak too much, or give any details that I shouldn't give away. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Don't give up the advantage. Commissioner Sarnoff, you're recognized.
Commissioner Sarnoff Yeah. First off Chief I happened to have been very close to
Commissioner Carollo yesterday, and just so you know, the U.S. (United States) Attorney had
very nice things to say about you, very nice things. And I don't want to suggest to anyone here
that I think we've defeated crime, or maybe even that we've made a dent in crime, 'cause I don't
know that we have. What I do know is I don't think a criminal says on 8th Street, "Is this the
Coral Gables street or is this the City of Miami street?" However, I will tell Commissioner
Suarez, I do think the prostitutes know that exactly, 'cause they know a felony versus a
misdemeanor, you stop your jurisdiction right there. I just think there has to be a little bit of a
bigger attitude towards this. I think it would be an august moment for the City of Miami to sit
with the Coral Gables Commissioner. I think Commissioner Carollo's dead right. I think Mayor
Gimenez should be there. I think it'd be a very -- again, a very august moment, whether we're
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sitting here or we're sitting at the Gables arena, if you will; that would be fine. You know, I sit
here, and yet, I know that a crime recently committed -- let me tell you a little story about Village
West, if you will, West Grove. So since July 4, we've had eight shootings in a 15-block area, 15
blocks. That is not a big area of the City of Miami. Less than a thousand people live there, and
we've had eight shootings. The last one came from two kids coming home from Coral Gables
High. Now, you'd say, "What's the big deal? They lived. " Yeah, one will live without a liver,
which means he will have a liver transplant. And, you know, what are the costs and expenses of
somebody getting shot in the stomach for the rest of their life, borne by the taxpayers forever?
Those are things that, you know, it seems like unless you die, you know, the shooting in the spot,
16 --
Chief Orosa: In a (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Sarnoff Right. -- 16 people shot didn't make national news, by the way. You
know why? Nobody died. But some people were shot and will limp and never walk correctly the
rest of their lives. I just -- you know, I've seen -- and I won't belabor this anymore, Mr. Chair. I
know you're wanting to move on. But, you know, I look at some of the responses that we got from
our police commanders in the department, and that is that in 2012, there was a big Federal sting
operation that netted a certain number of people, and that we have somehow taken away the
titular heads of the criminal enterprise, leaving 14- and 15- and 16 year -old kids with weapons
shooting each other in the West Grove. And it's an interesting thing to say, because what I know
of the Police Department and the police officers, the person they fear the most is a 14- or
15-year-old with a gun, because that person has very little fear and has known very little
negativity in their life as to what's about to happen to them. So I don't have the solution, Mr.
Chair.
Chair Gort: What I want to add is, I think your idea is a great idea. Why don't we create some
kind of a summit where we can bring everybody together? I mean, everybody in Miami -Dade
County, we all are victim of crimes. And come up with an idea with the Chief of Police to get the
information from us and what we like to see them doing, and for them to put the task together,
because we're not the expert.
Commissioner Sarnoff I agree.
Chair Gort: But I think a summit should be taking place.
Commissioner Sarnoff Can we have the Manager arrange that? Is that something that this
body is in favor of
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff Good.
Chair Gort: Okay. Yes, sir.
Mr. Alfonso: I'm sorry, Commissioners. Let me make sure I understand. Our Police Chief and
the Police staff works with other police agencies.
Chair Gort: Correct.
Mr. Alfonso: You would like for the Manager to try to bring together a symposium of all elected
officials -- I'm sorry, I missed that.
Chair Gort: If possible, representatives of all the cities, Miami -Dade County, Kathy Rundle's
office; all people involved with crime. You already have an organization within the Miami -Dade
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County where we participate, but they have different issues. I think that type of instruments, we
should be using.
Mr. Alfonso: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff Can I respond to that a little bit?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff I think it can get cumbersome and too big. I'm suggesting we sit with a
Coral Gables Commissioner; we invite Mayor Gimenez to come; and we have Kathy Rundle and
Willy Ferre, and I think we should sit down in an adjourned meeting; they'll adjourn their
meeting, we'll adjourn our meeting, and I think we should just have a conversation on strategies,
how they see things, what they're hearing, so that we, as elected officials -- you know, I don't go
up to Carollo and say, `How's crime in your neighborhood?" 'cause it could, theoretically, come
to this dais. I don't go to Suarez and say, "You know, what's the last thing that happened in your
neighborhood?" 'cause, theoretically, it come up on the dais. But if we sit here and we have a
sunshine meeting with Coral Gables, we can have this robust conversation, and it could be
attributed just to crime. The only reason I'm saying, Mr. Chair, don't start inviting other folks, it
becomes unmanageable. I want a manageable meeting between a jurisdiction just adjacent to
us, Mayor Gimenez be -- Commissioner Carollo brings up a good point, you know. There's a
County element to this; there is.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff And that's what I'm suggesting.
Chair Gort: And I understand the problem with Coral Gables and the City of Miami, but we
have the same problem with the Allapattah, Liberty City, and all the other neighborhoods where
you have surrounding neighborhood where we have large crimes, too. So maybe we can start
with the Coral Gables and use that as the beginning; then we can expand as we get -- okay?
Mr. Alfonso: You got it. We will work to put together a meeting of the elected officials of the two
cities and the Commission --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Alfonso: -- perhaps at the Police College.
Chair Gort: Thank you, Chief.
DI.2 DISCUSSION ITEM
14-00332
City Manager's Office DISCUSSION REGARDING ANNEXATION.
14-00332 Summary Form.pdf
14-00332 Annexation Feasibility Study.pdf
14-00332 Maps.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Hardemon, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
Note for the Record: Item DI.2 was continued to the November 20, 2014 Commission Meeting.
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DI.3
14-00991
DISCUSSION ITEM
District2- DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT LOCATED AT 1915
Commissioner Marc NW MIAMI COURT.
David Sarnoff
14-00991 Back -Up Documents.pdf
14-00991-Submittal-Ben Fernandez.pdf
14-00991-Submittal-Ben Fernandez -Miami Herald Article.pdf
14-00991-Submittal-Cecilia Stewart.pdf
14-00991-Video Presentation -Cecilia Stewart-1915 NW Miami Court.pdf
DISCUSSED
Direction by Commissioner Sarnoff to the Administration for a status report to be presented to
the City Commission six (6) months from now detailing House Nightclub's compliance with their
4:00 a.m. last call and 5:00 a.m. hard close restrictions, in addition to any code or noise
violations.
Chair Gort: D3 [sic].
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): Commissioners, DI.3 is a discussion regarding the
establishment located at 1915 Northwest Miami Court.
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff This is something that was supposed to come back to this Commission as
a result of a one-year issue with regard to whether House was being a good neighbor to the City
of Miami Commission. This is the date it was supposed to come back. The last meeting, it was
somehow put on the City by Planning & Zoning, and that brought up a discussion -- yeah, here it
is -- Department of Planning & Zoning brought up the discussion at 1915 Northwest Court [sic].
Since that time, I've been pretty admonished by the City Attorney regarding some of the way I'm
handling this issue. And Cecilia, you're a very easy person to champion. You're just a very easy
person to want to take up a cause for, listen to you, and to champion your cause. And I've
looked at a number of things, and I'm now questioning whether this is the best venue for this to
occur, 'cause I'm not a hundred percent sure -- well, I'm not even sure that I'm giving due process
rights to the House. And I think there's got to be a process that they need to go through, and I
don't know that the process is best served here. I know that the Police Department has come to
see me, and I know their findings are not necessarily consistent with what you're saying. And I
want to give you, of course, the opportunity to say whatever it is you need to say, and maybe
there's a better process to go through than what we're going through here, because, you know,
candidly, they have the right to be heard, and they have the right to be heard for issues attendant
to, you know, how they're operating. But -- and the Chair's not here -- is he here?
Commissioner Carollo: He gave you the gavel. The gavel, so that's fine.
Commissioner Sarnoff Keep -- you want to chair it?
Commissioner Carollo: Sure, yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff So what I'd say, Mr. Chair, is I'd certainly let Cecilia speak. You know,
I'm just giving her a heads up on where my attitude and how I'm heading is. You know, the City
Attorney was very remindful of me that I'm a officer of the court, and that there is something
called "due process," and I should allow a process to take place, and I should not be
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championing any one person's cause, and I am heeding her advice that this thing go through the
due process it needs to go through. But I -- Cecilia, I said that we would -- this is a normal thing
coming back to us, because we said we would give them one year, and we'd see how they're
doing. So you're more than welcome to come up here and tell us how you perceive how they're
doing.
Commissioner Carollo: Commissioner Sarnoff, the only thing is that I see a lot of other people.
Are we going -- do you -- is it your request that we allow everybody to speak?
Commissioner Sarnoff It's -- I'm not the Chair of the meeting. I'm -- I think we have given --
Chair Gort: Wait a minute.
Commissioner Carollo: I'll give it -- I'll pass it back to the --
Chair Gort: You have people signed up to speak?
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): No, sir. I only have two speakers as of this time.
Chair Gort: Okay, fine, that's it. Okay. Yes, ma'am.
Cecilia Stewart: Cecilia Stewart, 1899 Northwest 1st Court. I'm going to give the Clerk's Office
a chance to give you the information that I have presented. I would like to bring to your
attention in the Noise Impact, Section 1 is highlighted, the date for the photograph that you have
there, as well as a video presentation that's highlighted on the date. If you look at your Section
1, the dates are highlighted, which I'm going to emphasize with the media.
Note for the Record: At this time an audio -video presentation was made.
Ms. Stewart: If you look at the 8/16/14, this represents me documenting the noncompliance of
the hard 5 a.m. closure. The lady in the light colored garment, who's peeking to look at me,
that's the manager of the club. So she's noticing my attention, and now they're closing the door.
She's ordered them to close the door. Now, I'm across the street on the sidewalk, so I'm in a very
fair distance. Now, this is after 5 a.m. This is -- when I went over there, it was 5:08. And as you
can see, visibly, people are inside the club. Please pay close attention to the body language and
the heads. Now the door is being ordered to be closed again. And that concludes the
presentation, with the manager approaching me and asking me about the situation. However,
my purpose for going there was to document that the building is open after the 5 a.m. hour, and
so you have the actual person speaking to me to acknowledge me, approach me, and we did have
a conversation, and I did express the concern. And as I said, that was on August 16. Today, it is
still the same. And I want you to understand, sir, even after that date, I met with the City
Manager on the 29th of August. The Code Compliance person went out; and the director, Ms.
Jessica Capo, gave the City Manager and myself a briefing of her findings. And at that time, she
stated about the noise, and that she'd spoken with the manager at that time, as well as the Police
Department, concerning the matter. It's in your information packet according to date. It will be
the last date on your packet on Section 1. And I'm here, as I stated before, to ask for relief and
we want to ask for modifications of the hours that they're operating. And I would appreciate it
also if you would honor that, if you would help us. And I know, Commissioner Suarez, you were
here on the initial dais at that time. You were the only one who said "no" at that time. I don't
know your reason for saying "no, " but evidently, you saw something to compel you to say "no"
against the other Commissioners, which I know you all do not like to do. So I'm appealing to
that same sense that you had inside at that time. We've given them a try. Help us; sympathize
with the people. Thank you so much.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
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Ms. Stewart: Mr. Sarnoff, I appreciate you. I thank you so much for how you've respected me
every time I've come to you, even in privacy. I appreciate that. Mr. Gort, Mr. Chair, I
appreciate you. I appreciate the counsel. I appreciate the guidance. I thank you all for
allowing me this opportunity to speak to you all. I thank the House Nightclub people for coming
out, because they didn't come out last time; evidently, it wasn't important at that time. But I
thank you all for coming out, and you can see that I presented this in a decent manner, and I
appreciate that. Now, I don't know what you do from here, but we would like due diligence.
However way you do it, do right by us. We're not asking to put them somewhere else. We're just
saying we want peace in our neighborhood. We want you to comply with the law. Who's above
the law here? Is the House above the law? Please say "no."
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Ms. Stewart: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Who is the speaker -- who do you have signed up to speak?
Mr. Hannon: The next speaker I have signed up is Mr. Mark Lowe.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir, you're recognized.
Mark Lowe: Hi. How are you? Good morning, members of the Commission. Thank you so
much for giving me the opportunity to speak regarding my business.
Chair Gort: Name and address, please.
Mr. Lowe: Sorry. Mark Lowe, 1900 North Bayshore Drive, Apartment 602, Miami, Florida
33136.
Ben Fernandez: Sorry, Mr. Chair. If I may, I'm here on behalf of Mr. Lowe.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Fernandez: Ben Fernandez, 200 South Biscayne Boulevard. I just want to say for the
record we appreciate Cecilia's comments. We're here to work with the neighborhood. We were
just notified of this hearing less than 10 days ago. We are objecting, from a legal standpoint, to
the format. This isn't a hearing, public hearing on a Code Enforcement issue or a noise issue.
The club has never been formally cited for a noise complaint. They've received one warning.
They've been in operation for five months. They're one of the most outstanding clubs in the City,
if not the most outstanding club. And I'd like to just mention that in today's Miami Herald, the
City was rated by Travel and Leisure Magazine as the number one city in the country for clubs,
and this is one of the most outstanding clubs, and everyone here is here to restate that position to
you. So I just wanted to make my objection clear from a legal standpoint as to the evidence
being presented today, and I'll let Mr. Lowe speak.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Lowe: Thank you, Ben. I just wanted it to be noted on Ms. Stewart's presentation that there
was no time stamp, and if you did notice, the light of our address was turned off, which, for me,
would indicate that we were closing, we were attempting to close. Members of the Commission,
my name is Mark Lowe. I'm the owner of House Nightclub. It's difficult for me to fathom why
I'm standing here when the re -visitation of this business in my thought process was mine to
request as the applicant and based on our initial request for a 5 a.m. liquor service only. During
construction now, as House has become more successful, we've been relentlessly targeted by
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members of media, MEDA (Miami Entertainment District Association), the owners of nightclubs
in downtown Miami; calls and anonymous letters have been written filing every possible
complaint imaginable. On the flip side, a small religious group of neighbors, led by Ms. Cecilia
Stewart, has been the chief source of complaints. Prior to our even opening, Ms. Stewart was
adamantly against this project, stating that it was dark, evil, sinful, and catered to a gay
clientele. After our opening five months ago, Ms. Stewart was welcomed by myself and my
partner, Matty Cartagena, who was actually the manager that she cited. She is actually not a
manager. She is the owner. We gave her our personal phone numbers after inviting her in, and
told her if she had any concerns whatsoever, to please address them to us. She said the club was
phenomenal, and even though she disagreed with it morally, she felt that it was a work of art.
She then found it necessary to amass what equates to a dictionary of complaints without my
knowledge or any notice given to me as a business owner. She presented her case in front of the
Commission. Why was I not informed or given the opportunity to speak and defend my business?
Even after all of this, we again attempted to reach out to Ms. Stewart to address her concerns
through Commander Faro; to no avail. We've done everything in our power to accommodate
Ms. Stewart and her concerns, so clearly, she has no desire to rect the situation. Ms. Stewart
is entitled to her religious viewpoints, but her personal opinions about VIP Server Clothing half
a mile away or the sexuality and morality of my customers or myself is, frankly, none of her
business. The LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) community is an asset to any
neighborhood, and has brought billions of dollars to the City of Miami. To be clear, we have
never been cited or ticketed. We have received one questionable sound warning. I say
"questionable" because we are in a D2 industrial zone, and the nearest neighbor is half a mile
away. I personally walked the area with our music on, and you can hear absolutely nothing.
House has conducted itself 100 percent professionally and responsibly. We have two noise
complaints from Ms. Stewart and very little else. We provided security and police detail at both
ends of the street and invested millions of dollars in an area that was nothing more than a barren
wasteland of drug dealers, crack addicts and prostitutes. Her most recent complaints of parking
are invalid, as we have the lots. We do serve food and we do not sell alcohol after 4 a.m. Any
delay in a guest leaving the venue at 5 a.m. is simply because they have a tab to close or they
have misplaced their keys or they need a taxi. Our guests are responsibly taken care of and we
will not throw a guest out without making sure they get home safely. In closing, as a designer of
14 clubs and a 15-year history in this business, I was open doors all over South Beach. I chose
this area because I believe in it. House has already received critical acclaim globally, and we've
been written up in some of the finest nightclub magazines in the world. We are more than willing
to work with our neighbors, including Ms. Stewart, but we expect to be treated in fairness and
respect. Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I will -- I think Commissioner Sarnoff seems
to have a good grasp on where he wants to go procedurally with respect to due process and how
he wants to handle the matter, so I'll leave that for him. I just wanted to -- you know, Ms.
Stewart, I believe -- Ms. Stewart, I just -- I don't want you to get the wrong impression, and so I
know that you signified that I voted against the Commissioners that day, and I did vote against
the Commissioners that day, and I pulled the meetings of the minutes from that. But I voted
against them for a different reason than the one that I think you think, and I'll read to you what I
said on that day. I said, speaking about you, you're a very classy woman. And, you know,
obviously, you feel that this is going to impact your quality of life, and that's always very
compelling. I don't think there's ever a time when a neighbor or resident comes before us with
that concern where we're not moved, and there have been instances in my district where there are
clubs that are -- have much closer proximity, physical proximity to residents, and it does create a
tension. But it's my view, maybe because I'm the youngest person here by quite a bit -- and now,
I can't say that anymore, because I have a colleague who is not here at the time -- this is where
my youth -- growing up in Miami, I've always envisioned Miami and always seen Miami as a
very cutting edge, great metropolis, and I see what is happening here in the City is exactly what
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the gentleman is saying -- I was referring to the club owner -- which is that people are leaving
Miami Beach, and they're coming to the City of Miami to live, work and play, and we're seeing
that we were very blessed to have in the audience that day Craig Robbins, who had a great
project in the Design District, and there's just a lot of beautiful and amazing things happening in
the City of Miami, thanks to the people that have great vision and also the intestinal fortitude to
invest in the City and deal with the issues that come along with that, and the difficulties that
come along with that. I said I personally have no issue with the 5 o'clock, with it being 5 o'clock
or 24 hours, for that matter. I just -- that's my personal feeling. It's hard because of the district
Commissioner; he's very passionate and consistent on this issue, and it's a hard issue for me, to
be honest with you. At the time, I didn't know where Commissioner Spence -Jones was, and just
said, you know, I'm -- philosophically on one end, and I've been very consistent about my
philosophical position. But on the other hand, I wanted to respect the district Commissioner and
also you, the resident, who were coming to complain. I just want to make a couple of
observations. One is, since that day, which was October 24, 2013, my understanding was a
resolution could be brought back to see if we could go back to the 5 a.m., which, clearly, it
doesn't seem like that's what they're asking for. So to a certain extent, I appreciate the fact that,
you know, that they're not asking for that at this particular moment. And I just wanted to
highlight a couple of articles that I looked at. One of them is in Miami Chute Magazine, which
says, "Is Miami the new capital of entertainment in the World?" And it goes on to discuss why
Miami is surpassing Las Vegas as the entertainment capital of the world. And we're also
oftentimes -- and the Mayor has to answer these questions, so I -- it's one of the -- one parts [sic]
of his job that I don't envy -- where sometimes we get ranked nationally in something very
negative, and he has to, you know, explain that. And in this particular article that I'm looking at
by Hannah Sampson, Miami is the number one destination for attractiveness and clubs. And so
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Hey.
Commissioner Suarez: -- you know, it's -- you know, I've always talked about -- we talked about
it in the Ultra discussion -- that Miami has a brand, and that brand, in many ways, is what makes
Miami successful and sexy and fun and exciting, and brings people from across the world to
come here. And we have to protect that brand, in my opinion, zealously, because if we start to --
if we stop protecting that brand, then macro -economically, things are going to happen to our city
that are, in my opinion, not in the best interest of the City, economically, and its residents. One
of the things -- just to go to your point specifically, one of the things that I did notice and I will
say is that when the -- when it seemed to me that the door had been closed on the club, like
physically closed, it seemed to me that the noise had been eliminated completely. So I would just
urge the owner to be more careful. Maybe instead of five minutes after, which I understand
sometimes it happens, maybe try five minutes before, just to be on the extra careful side. You
obviously know that you have a resident here who's very passionate and wants peace and quiet,
which we all want in our neighborhoods. I think that's a very reasonable ask. But it's clear to
me when you close that door that there is no noise that comes out of the club. And obviously,
that's a very, very big door; I mean, you could tell from the size of the door. Those are my
comment -- I didn't want you to get the impression that I voted against it because I didn't agree.
I voted against it because I'm very -- on this issue, I'm extremely liberal in terms of
pro -entertainment; I always have been. It's a product of growing up in Miami, having lived here
my whole life and enjoyed the benefits of that lifestyle and culture. So I just wanted to be clear.
I didn't want to give you a mis-impression.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Stewart: Thank you so much for making that clear to me.
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
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Ms. Stewart: And I just wanted to say, I've given you the outline of my very first meeting with
Ms. Cartagena, as well as my first complaint to her in May. May. Personally, I drove over to
her.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am. We'll hear from staff.
Ms. Stewart: Thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: You're recognized, Commissioner Sarnoff.
Commissioner Sarnoff So, first, Mr. Fernandez, it was, according to the minute notes,
Commissioner Suarez that said you should come back the second meeting in September 14; you
must come back and report on the status. There should be no surprise that this is the second
meeting in September of 2014. Any issue that you may have with regard to notice would be your
failure to know when the second reading in September of 2014 is. Well --
Mr. Fernandez: Actually, Commissioner Sarnoff that's not entirely correct. As of yesterday,
there were several different resolutions on this item on your Legistar website. The most
appropriate legislation on the website contained a condition which specifically said that the
liquor was to stop being served at 4 a.m. with a 5 a.m. close, and that the applicant may come
back and request a 5 a.m. liquor -serving deadline, you know, any time after September.
However, that resolution was mysteriously removed from the website. I have a copy of it here,
and I can enter it into the record --
Commissioner Sarnoff I'm -- I think we're talk --
Mr. Fernandez: -- was replaced with a resolution that just contained --
Commissioner Sarnoff -- I think we're talking past each other, Mr. Fernandez.
Mr. Fernandez: Well, there's -- maybe semantics --
Chair Gort: Excuse me, excuse me.
Mr. Fernandez: We had no notice of that.
Commissioner Sarnoff Let me just say this.
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Commissioner Sarnoff Commissioner Suarez was impeccably clear on page 1 in 26 of the
minutes when he said, "You will be coming back the second meeting in September 2014." Now,
whether you've been retained through their -- I have no idea; it's not my business. But there's no
surprise that there would be a discussion here.
Mr. Fernandez: And we're ready to come back, but we just haven't requested it yet.
Chair Gort: Mr. Fernandez, please, let me recognize you.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: I want to keep order in this --
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Mr. Fernandez: Sorry, Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff All right. And then let me go on with the meeting. Let me also say
something to Mr. Lowe. You know, I just want you to know, this is not about the LGBT
community or anything along those lines. I am the 2010 winner of the "Save Dade" award for
elected officials.
Commissioner Suarez: What's that?
Commissioner Sarnoff. You know, what two consenting adults do is what two consenting adults
do. In my mind, it doesn't matter to me what they do; it's not government's business and it's
personally not my business. So I want you to know, what goes on in that club -- as I always say
to owners of buildings -- I care what your outside of your building looks like; what the inside of
your building looks like; certainly, it has to be Fire code protection, but it's not government -- I
don't think it's government's business. So let me just say this to the LGBT community: I don't
care if it's a gay club, I don't care if it's a straight club, I don't care what goes on inside the club.
What goes on outside the club concerns me. The noise that emits outside of that club concerns
me, 'cause it's my premise -- and I'll say this to you guys candidly -- 30 percent of my day as the
District 2 Commissioner is spent -- and I think Danny Alfonso is beginning to see this -- dealing
with noise issues. It is just the District 2 Commissioner's job to sit with the City Attorney and
Code and listen to complaints of residents concerning noise. It -- I could tell you when a cold
front will come -- not because it's cold out in Miami -- because noise travels further when there is
a cold front. So as I joked with my wife this Saturday, I said, "Sunday, we'll be getting a lot of
noise complaints." And sure enough, we had our noise complaints. So my issue here is really
about what goes on outside of your building; not what goes on inside your building; that is
between two consenting adults, and more power to you. I really do mean that. It's good
business, and it's not our business. So I mean, from -- monetarily, it's good, and it's not
government's business, in my opinion; others may have different. But how you react and what
you do to a neighborhood outside is our business. Now, you all did not want the 4 o'clock stop
drinking and the 5 o'clock hard close, I know that. Ms. Stewart, on page 6 of the October 24,
2013, actually said, `I think that's a fair thing to do. " And that's pretty much where we are
today. But you really have to abide by the 4 o'clock stop drinking and a 5 o'clock hard close.
You know what it means to a police officer? `I could go shake your door, and if I can open it,
it's not closed" And that's what, Mr. Fernandez, was supposed to be discussed here today.
Now, as a lawyer, you're right; Ms. Stewart makes a compelling presentation. But I don't want
to be a fact -finder, and I don't want to step in the role of the Manager that he designates to the
Code Enforcement, that he designates to Planning & Zoning. You know, when something comes
to this Commission, every one of us make a great big assumption up here: One, it is legally
ready and prepared; distance requirements have been determined. All these set of criteria for
fitting in, as you would, Mr. Fernandez, say, "Code Article number such -and -such has been
complied with" Well, I could tell you Suarez didn't go out there and measure. Carollo didn't get
his rolling tape out there, and the Chair didn't go out there with his car and measure off the
number of odometers or metrics there was from distance requirements. We believe it's properly
before us and prepared. So from that standpoint, I'm not here to do that, by any stretch of the
imagination. So, you know, what I want to make clear to everybody is I'm going to keep the
status quo ante. I'd like to have a report back in six months where we are with this, just with
regard to the 4 o'clock/5 o'clock issue. You're going to have a whole other set of circumstances.
You're right, Mr. Fernandez, you're entitled to notice, opportunity, cross-examination, and
anything else you may come up with to protect the club's interest, and they have an interest. On
the other hand, Ms. Stewart has every right, every right, from a Brickell-ite to a Grovite to a
Overtown-ite to a Liberty City-ite to a good night's sleep.
Mr. Fernandez: Absolutely.
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Commissioner Sarnoff And the two are not mutually exclusive. And what I mean by that is
whenever a club owner says to me, "You want to come out and see my outdoor speakers ? " I
know exactly what that's going to mean: problems. Okay? If a club owner says to me, "You
know, Commissioner, I don't want to invest in those double doors," you know what that means to
me? I'm going to have problems, because the noise will travel. It's not my business what goes
on in that club; I hope it's no other Commissioner's business, either. It is my business, I think, as
a Commissioner, as a member of this juridic body, as a person that can designate the City
Manager to do certain tasks, how that club reacts with the neighborhood. I don't think the two
are mutually exclusive, but I think it's time for a conversation between the two of you. And
you're right, Mr. Lowe, people's religious beliefs or ethics or morality does not come into play
here; merely the noise; merely be a good neighbor; police the neighborhood. And what I mean
by "policing," I mean clean up from people's throwing stuff around; that's being a good
neighbor. Putting extra cops on the street in that neighborhood, that's a good thing. So I think
I've said enough, Mr. Chair. I appreciate you allowing me to speak so long on this.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Mr. Fernandez, you're recognized.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair, I just want --
Chair Gort: Speak all you want now.
Mr. Fernandez: In closing, I just want to say that we really -- we're a new club, and we want the
opportunity to work with Ms. Stewart and come back to you with, you know, a very favorable
response from Ms. Stewart. Thank you.
Chair Gort: By the way, last time when she was here, she was accompanied with about six or
seven other individuals that lived in the area. I think a lot of things -- this problem can be taken
care of by people sitting down, talking to each other, and that's very important that you do that.
Now you know what the complaints are, what the -- what worries us, and hope you'll get
together, okay?
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you.
Mr. Alfonso: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Alfonso: IfI may speak for a moment, I did meet with Ms. Stewart in August 29 or late in
August. I wanted to -- I don't want it to go unsaid that we didn't do anything. We sent our Code
Compliance Department out there. We met with the manager of the club very, very early in the
morning; I want to say somewhere -- 2, 3 in the morning. We advised the club owner of some of
the concerns. We explained -- no, not the owner but the manager. I apologize. We explained to
them the concerns about the loud noise externally, and then we followed it up with a inspection
of the place, which involved our Law Enforcement Department, et cetera. So we have been
working to get the place into compliance and reduce the nuisance.
Chair Gort: Okay. But --
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: -- excuse me. Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Mendez: IfI may, briefly, I just wanted to thank Commissioner Sarnofffor listening to my --
what he calls "admonishments" about the procedural hearings, and that this is best to go
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through the normal channels and go through a public hearing process, so thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff She dressed me down pretty good, Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Well, did a good job. That's your job; tell us when we're in line. You're
recognized.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I just want to be clear that I, like
Commissioner Sarnoff, agree that whatever happens inside the club, as long as it's lawful, is
none of the community's business, for lack of better words; however, what goes on outside the
club is. And so, if we are in violation of the noise ordinance, then that's something that needs to
be corrected and stay corrected; that is being a good neighbor. And I understand -- I've driven
by the club. I don't live very far from the club, so I understand the distance that there is between
that building, the club and the nearest residence. So if the residents are complaining of noise,
then that means that that noise that's coming from the club is very loud; that's the only way that I
can think of it making any sense. And just for disclosure, I had an opportunity just to review
some of the websites to look at what goes on at House. I'm still unsure what type of club it is. I
know someone said the LGBT, but it didn't appear to necessarily be that way entirely Friday,
Saturday, Sunday, so I'm still somewhat confused about it. But at the same time, no matter what
type of club it is, the noise should be contained within the club and not necessarily outside of the
club. That is a residential -- it abuts residential areas very closely. So we want to make sure that
all of us live in some type of harmony, but mainly that we're all law-abiding citizens and
corporate citizens, okay?
Chair Gort: Thank you. I understand we have an additional speaker?
Mr. Hannon: Eddie Rodriguez.
Eddie Rodriguez: Good morning. I'm Reverend Eddie Rodriguez. My address is 445 Southwest
11 th Street, Apartment 402 in Miami, 33130. So I've heard a lot of talk about what goes on
inside the club, what goes on inside the club. I am a minister and I attend House. One of the
reasons I attend House is I like to see where my daughters go out when they go out on the
weekends. So let me just make it clear for you what happens inside of House. People dance,
people drink. It is a sociologist's dream come true when, on any given weekend, you'll see over a
thousand people -- straight, gay, black, white, young, old -- talking to each other, dancing with
each other and celebrating their shared humanity. I don't want for anyone to use God as a
reason why this club shouldn't operate. I don't want anyone to use noise as a cover for that. We
live in a city that is very progressive; it's known for being very international. I personally know
people that fly in on the weekend from out of the country to attend House, because it is the best
nightclub in South Florida. If any of you have not been there, I suggest you come in on a
weekend; let me know, and I can walk you through the VIP (very important person) line. I have
stood in front of the club many times. I'm an observer; as a psychology major, I observe. I have
seen the doorman card people that look to be underage. I then go inside and see bartenders card
people that look to be underage. I have seen people leave the club who don't appear to be able
to drive. I have seen doormen call cabs for them. I have seen people not let people leave in
order for them not to leave the club and drive in a way that they shouldn't drive. I have stood
there many times outside and I have -- no noise, but I did observe this past Saturday at least 25
City of Miami police officers enter the club, wondering what else is happening in our City that
we can afford to have 25 police officers enter the club. At 4 o'clock liquor is not served any
longer. You can get a bottle of water and that's about it. So I just want you to know from a
perspective of a father, of a minister, of a citizen, this club is a great example of what any
establishment in South Florida should be: all-inclusive, all -accepting. And all that goes on
inside the club is dancing, drinking and people enjoying each other. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
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Ms. Stewart: Mr. Chair, please?
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am, go ahead
Ms. Stewart: Thank you. I want to say the focus is not what goes on in the club. You have taken
the focus off what I brought it here for; it's not that. The focus is on they did not honor the
exception and the conditions that the Commission approved. The focus is the noise violation;
that's it, that's it, not this other stuff. That's a sidebar; that's not it. That's it.
Chair Gort: Ma'am, I think that's what we addressed, what was the problem. Any further
discussion?
Commissioner Suarez: No.
Chair Gort: What's the decision?
Commissioner Sarnoff I'd like to see them come back here in six months and --
Commissioner Suarez: You're saying that, not me; just FYI (for your information).
Commissioner Sarnoff I am saying it --
Commissioner Suarez: Just to clam the record.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- and I think we may need to announce our names to the City Clerk
from now on.
Commissioner Suarez: It's okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff I am saying they should come back in six months and just to get a status
report where we are.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff 'Cause I'd like to hear from Cecilia. Have things improved? And you're
on complete utter notice, Mr. Fernandez, that in six months, you'll be coming here and we'll be
hearing whether you're in compliance with the 4 o'clock stop drinking/5 o'clock hard close,
'cause that's the jurisdiction of this board.
Mr. Fernandez: Understood, but I would -- through the Chair, I would like to preserve our
ability to request a 5 a.m. liquor -- pending our good behavior.
Chair Gort: Pending. Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff Perfectly acceptable.
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you.
Chair Gort: I do have a question: Twenty-five police officer going in at 4 in the morning?
Mr. Alfonso: Commissioner -- Mr. Chairman, on Saturday, we had -- I'm not sure if it was 25,
but we did have a number of police officers. We were visiting the club, making sure that there
were no violations at the time.
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Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff But I think you were also visiting other --
Mr. Alfonso: There were --
Commissioner Sarnoff -- clubs under observation.
Mr. Alfonso: Yes, we were. There is --
Chair Gort: You were making the rounds to all the different clubs.
Mr. Alfonso: There is a task force, and if the board wishes, we can make a presentation about a
task force that we have that is an ongoing task force. It was not 25; it was a total of 10. But they
didn't only visit this one club. They visited other locations in the City.
Chair Gort: I understand that.
Commissioner Suarez: And in fairness --
Chair Gort: Look, that is taking place; continue to do so, and you don't have to disclose
anything --
Commissioner Suarez: I was going to say, in fairness to the Manager, there was a shooting at a
club, you know, where 15 people were shot recently, so I think, you know, it's appropriate.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
END OF DISCUSSION ITEMS
PART B: PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
Chair Gort: Madam Attorney, would you go over the regulations?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): Yes, Chairman. Thank you. We will now begin the Planning &
Zoning portion of the meeting. PZ (Planning & Zoning) items shall proceed according to Section
7.1.4 of the Miami 21 Zoning Code. Before any PZ item is heard, all those wishing to speak will
be sworn in by the City Clerk. Please note, Commissioners have generally been briefed by the
City staff and the City Attorney on items on the agenda today. The members of the City
Commission shall disclose any ex parte communications. Staff will briefly present each item to
be heard. The appellant or petitioner will then present their application or request at the City
Commission. If the appellant agrees with staff recommendation and no one from the audience
wishes to speak for or against the item, they may also waive the right to an evidentiary hearing.
The order of the presentation shall be as described in the City Code and Miami 21 Code.
Members of the public will be permitted to speak through the Chair for not more than two
minutes, unless modified by the Chair. The City of Miami requires that anyone requesting action
by the City Commission must disclose before the hearing anything provided to anyone for
agreement to support or withhold objection to the requested action, pursuant to City Code
Section 2-8. Any documents offered to the City Commissioners that have not been provided
seven days before the meeting as part of the agenda materials will be entered into the record at
the City Commission's discretion. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Clerk.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. If you will be speaking on
today's Planning & Zoning items, may you stand and raise your right hand.
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The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those persons giving
testimony on zoning issues.
Mr. Hannon: Thank you, Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
PZ.1 RESOLUTION
07-01499ac1
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), CLOSING, VACATING, ABANDONING AND
DISCONTINUING FOR PUBLIC USE NORTH/SOUTH AND EAST/WEST
ALLEYS LOCATED BETWEEN NORTH MIAMI AVENUE AND NORTHWEST
MIAMI COURT FROM NORTHWEST 20TH STREET TO APPROXIMATELY
215 FEET NORTH OF NORTHWEST20TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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07-01499ac1 Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
07-01499ac1 Legislation (v2).pdf
07-01499ac1 ExhibitA.pdf
LOCATION: Between N Miami Avenue and NW Miami Court from NW 20th
Street to Approximately 215 Feet North of NW 20th Street [Commissioner Marc
David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Miguel Diaz de la Portilla, Esquire and Elinette Ruiz, Esquire,
on behalf of Southern Waste Systems, Ltd.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PLAT AND STREET COMMITTEE: Recommended approval on February 6,
2014 by a vote of 6-0.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommended denial to City
Commission on March 5, 2014 by a vote of 5-2.
PURPOSE: The alley closures and unification of the site will enable a modern
and clean recycling/processing center to be constructed and reduce the amount
of material otherwise deposited in landfills.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
Note for the Record: Item PZ.1 was continued to the November 20, 2014 Commission Meeting.
Chair Gort: PZ.1.
Francisco Garcia: Thank you, sir. For the record, Francisco Garcia, Planning & Zoning
director. The first item for action, Commissioners, is item PZ.1, which we are going to
recommend be continued to the month of November. I know that the applicants are here, and we
are making this recommendation in concert with them. I also wanted to briefly introduce into the
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record a statement, which is that we received an amended letter of intent from the applicant
indicating that the item's purpose is to unify and close the alley sites as a safety precaution. The
intent statement that's presently there speaks to redevelopment issues which are not necessarily
on the table at present; that's somewhat perfunctory, but I just wanted to put that into the record.
And if the item is continued, you will see that reflected in the next publication of the item as a
matter of intent. That said, you're familiar, I believe, with this application. It's been before you
a couple of times, and it's been continued at those times. I would like to share with you that we
have met with the applicants as well as some of the area stakeholders. I would like to
characterize the conversation that has taken place as a result of these meetings as positive, and
we think that we have achieved at least a reasonable amount of consensus and we are now going
to be waiting for the results of this consensus to be put in writing so we can properly vet it and
hopefully come back to you at the next hearing with a unified proposition for you to consider.
With that said, if you would consider continuing the item, that's what's before you right now.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. What is the wish of this board?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Motion to continue.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: I got a motion to continue. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Okay. At this time, we'll open the public hearings. Is anyone in the public would
like to address this PZ.1 ? Seeing none, hearing none, we close the public hearings. Any further
discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING AN EXCEPTION, REQUIRING CITY
COMMISSION APPROVAL, AS LISTED IN ARTICLE 6, TABLE 13, OF THE
MIAMI 21 ZONING CODE, TO ALLOW A REGIONAL ACTIVITY COMPLEX
FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 700 NORTH MIAMI
AVENUE AND 700 NORTHWEST 1ST AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
14-00912xcAnalysis & Maps.pdf
14-00912xc Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
14-00912xc-Exhibit A. pdf
14-00912xc-Submittal-City Manager -Back -Up Documents. pdf
14-00912xc-Submittal-Javier Betancourt-DDA Resolution in Support for Miami Worldcenter.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 700 N Miami Avenue and 700 NW 1st Avenue
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APPLICANT(S): Tony Recio, Esquire, on behalf of P & G Investors, LLC, as
Contract Purchaser, and Old Arena, LLC, as Property Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommended approval to City
Commission, with conditions*, on October 1, 2014 by a 9-0 vote.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will allow a regional activity complex.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Chair Gort: PZ.2.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Thank you, sir. Item PZ.2 is before you as a
resolution. The application is for an exception with City Commission approval for the
development of a parcel of land at 700 North Miami Avenue and 700 Northwest 1st Street;
perhaps better known as the former site of the Miami Arena. This is before you today having
been through Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board, and enjoying the recommendation of approval
unanimously; the Planning & Zoning Department also recommends approval. This exception
with City Commission approval is before you to seek exemptions under the Regional Activity
Complex regulations in the Zoning Ordinance, and what I'd like to do is defer to the applicants
to make a fairly complete presentation that they have, because that will enumerate exactly what
exemptions they're asking for and why they are asking for those exemptions. Again, we think the
project is very much worthy of your consideration, and we are recommending approval as
presented.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. You're recognized.
Tony Recio: Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the Commission. Good afternoon. My name
is Tony Recio with law office at 2525 Ponce de Leon Boulevard; very excited to be here before
you today on behalf of P&G Investors, LLC (Limited Liability Company), which is an entity that
is related to MDMDevelopment. You have seen MDMDevelopments throughout the city. We've
got the Met Miami Development in downtown, the J. W Marriott Financial Center, as well as --
I'm sorry -- and Barclays Financial Center, as well as the Downtown Dadeland Marriott, and
they continue to be owned and operated by MDM. That's what this is and that's what you will
see before you. I'm going to try to keep my part brief 'cause what you want to see are the
pictures, and I want to show you the project, but I will give you some highlights. We're here;
we've got the whole development team here. On -- basically, we are seeking a -- approval of the
Regional Activity Complex for the Miami World Exposition Center. It's a transformational
development in the Park West/Overtown area. It's incredibly important to the long-term viability
of the City in general and especially the Park West area. Some of the highlights: It is 2.2 million
square feet in size; it is a massive development. It is over 350,000 square feet of usable
exhibition space; space that can be used for exhibitions and conferences. There's another
250,000 square feet of supporting space; 1,800 hotel rooms; space for over 1,200 cars and over
100,000 square feet of outdoor terraces. We think those outdoor terraces are going to be used a
lot for exhibitions and for meetings, especially when you've got people coming in from all over
the world, but especially the cold north. They're going to get to enjoy a 70-degree winter, and
that's a great advertisement for the City of Miami, and that's what we intend to do. The
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construction is over $650 million. It is privately funded, which is unlike most other conference
centers that you see throughout the world. The reason we are here today is, again, because of
the size, because it is a Regional Activity Complex. Now, it being one of those, the way the City's
Code works is because of the special programmatic requirements of this development and
developments of this size and magnitude, they are -- they comply with the intent of the Code, but
there are little, little spaces where it's not exactly what the Code would provide, because the
Code is meant to apply to the garden variety offices and residential and industrial that make up
the City. So -- and I'll explain where we get those, but before I do that, I'm going to have Bruce
Brosch from Nichols, Brosch Wurst, Wolfe Architects walk you through what that program is and
why the building looks the way it does. So at this point, I'll bring up Bruce and then I'll walk you
through some of the finer points.
Bruce Brosch: Good afternoon. My name is Bruce Brosch. I'm with the firm of Nichols, Brosch,
Wurst, Wolfe. We are the architects for the project. I'm very proud to hear -- to present this to
you guys. It is the Miami World Expo Center. It really starts with the exhibit hall that's located
on the ground floor. This is a 100,000 square foot hall. Now, that pales in comparison to the
size of the Miami Beach Convention Center exhibit space, but for us, it's very large. To give you
an idea, this is the Lowe's Miami Beach Convention Center Hotel. It's an 800-room hotel, and
you can see that it would fit very neatly in the size of our exhibit space. But that's not the only
part of our program that we have as part of the expo center. There is a -- let's see ifI can do this
- - there's also a 60,000 square foot ballroom; a 40,000 square foot ballroom; and a 1,500-seat
lecture hall. Now, in a normal project where the site was large enough, this would be spread out
horizontally. It would be all connected and served by service areas that connect to each of the
spaces. It would be surrounded on the perimeter by public access for all the users of the space.
In our case, we would have to add 800, 1,600 and 1,800 guestrooms, and finally 1,200 structured
parking spaces. Now, a normal city block in the City of Miami is about that big, so for us to be
able to do this design in a horizontal basis as a normal convention center, it would actually take
four city blocks, in addition to the streets that connect those city blocks; that's obviously not
available to us. What we have is the old Miami Arena site. Now, we're fortunate with that,
because it's a very large site compared to most city blocks in Miami; it's almost five acres;
actually 4.7. But you can see when we put a hundred thousand square foot exhibit hall on top of
it, it begins to fill up rather quickly. So what we've had to do is structure this program vertically,
so we've stacked all three of the major halls; the exhibit hall on the bottom; the grand ballroom
on the second floor; the junior ballroom on the third, as well as the 1,500-seat lecture hall. In
the rear of that is our service areas that connect all three of those major floors. In the front is all
our pre function; that's where all the guests come and go. And in the back, we have our
1,200-car parking garage. Then we add our guestrooms stacking up, and that's our 1,800-room
project. Now, it's worth noting that all of these major spaces, all the ballrooms and the exhibit
hall have to be column free. So this site, as large as it is, was a challenge for us to be able to fit
the guestroom tower in such a way that it allows those ballrooms to be column free, so the tower
does not sit on any of that convention space. Now, here's our site kind of in context. And one of
- - we love this site for a number of reasons: It's got tremendous easy access from 1-95 to the left
on the screen; from 1-395 to the north on the project; we are adjacent to the Miami Worldcenter
Project in dark blue there and we are -- probably not least, but we are adjacent to the All Aboard
Florida site, which is the ochre color to the left there. And serendipitously for us, in their
complex, their actual train station is to the north of their complex, which is directly across the
street from our project. So we see as seamless a connection between the All Aboard Florida
Station and our project as we can possibly do. This project has 1,200 cars, but we really depend
- - for this project to work as well as it possibly can, it will need to have a significant component
of our guests arriving by mass transit, and we're lucky to have all forms of mass transit right
there -- Metrorail, Metro mover, Tri Rail, All Aboard Florida -- so we think that is integral to our
success. And we've been in discussions with both All Aboard Florida and Miami Worldcenter as
to how best to connect all these projects. So this is the ground floor of our project. The red is
the exhibit halls; you can see it dominates the space. The dark gray is the service areas that take
care of servicing this area. The light gray is the loading dock for this complex. The yellow is the
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public access or preassembly for the site and that very small area of dark blue is the lobby for
the 1,800-room hotel. So this is how it stacks up vertically. The exhibit hall is on the ground
floor; the grand -- 60,000 square foot grand ballroom is on the second floor; the junior ballroom
of 40,000 feet is on the third. If you'll notice to the left, there's the 1,500-seat lecture hall. To the
right on this diagram is all the pre function on all three of these major floors. This faces east in
the City, so we present our best face to the rest of downtown. On top of this podium is the pool
deck and sky lobby for the hotel. It contains our major lobby, all our food and beverage areas,
the pool and recreation deck and all the other amenities that go into this hotel. These people are
sitting about 129 feet above the ground, so they have spectacular views out to Biscayne Bay and
the rest of downtown. And this is how the project is designed at this point. Now, the 1,800-room
tower sits there; it's a very large hotel tower. We have done our very best to break the scale of
this down into four distinct components. Each of these wings rises to a different height. The
mullions on the -- each tower rise up at a different speed or rhythm, and we feel it gives it a very
gracious scale to this project. And that's the way the project is, and I respectfully ask for your
approval. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Recio: I'll tie it up very quickly with some numbers and just some key facts. The Downtown
Development Authority did a study several years ago regarding the need for space such as this.
They said, "We need a hundred thousand to 350,000 square feet, and we need a ratio of one
hotel room to every hundred thousand" -- "to every hundred square feet of exhibition space."
This provides the 350,000 square feet, so the entire complement of that. It provides about half
the hotel rooms that are needed, so we will need to service this additional hotel rooms
throughout the area, but that's part of what this part is about; it's spurring other development in
the area, so that's what we're looking to do. From a construction standpoint, I mentioned
previously, it's about a 36-month construction period, looking at a cost of well over $600 million,
and all of the fees and all of the jobs that that creates. Again, that portion of it is privately
financed. That's to be distinguished from the operations, which we are talking with the CRA
(Community Redevelopment Agency), and we will be in talks with the CRA regarding ongoing
operational assistance. But the construction is -- that construction element is privately financed,
so I just wanted to clam that. In terms of that ongoing operational component, the preliminary
estimates based on our financial analysts, we're looking at 5,400 permanent jobs in the area to
service this; both inside and outside this facility for all of the things that make this thing work.
In terms of the hotel, that 1,800-room hotel represents $189 million over the course of the next
30 years in hotel taxes; these are significant figures. The indirect impact is over a billion
dollars. And when I say "indirect impact," when a visitor comes to visit or an industry group
comes to visit, they fill the hotel; they got to go eat somewhere; they got to go shop somewhere;
they walk around; they take a visit to the museums; they take in a Heat Game; all of these things
they can do without ever having to get into a car. In fact, with the Metrorail adjacent to us and
All Aboard adjacent to us, a visitor can arrive by air to Miami International Airport, hop on the
Metrorail, be at our door in about 30 minutes without ever having to get into a car. I think it's a
really exciting thing; that's something Miami hasn't had in the past so we're extremely, extremely
excited about this. Again, it's the old Miami Arena site. It's a great site with all kinds of
accessibility, and it's the right configuration for this use. So we very much hope that you will
support this project, and we are here to answer any questions that you may have when the time is
right for that. Thank you so much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. This time we're going to open the public hearings, and I imagine
we have some people that signed up to speak, so Mr. Clerk, I'll let that -- you'll be in charge of
that. And if you could put this down, please.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Mr. Chairman, may I ask him a quick question?
Chair Gort: Yeah, sure.
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Vice Chair Hardemon: Mr. Recio.
Mr. Recio: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Did I hear you correctly when you said that you can get it built without
TIF (Tax Increment Fund) dollars; is that what your statement --? Clarij5r your statement.
Mr. Recio: The TIF dollars would work as a rebate, and we have Javier Fernandez here who
can -- who's been dealing with those issues, but the TIF dollars are a rebate against the property
taxes that would be due on this. The property taxes wouldn't be due on this until there's a
building there --
Vice Chair Hardemon: No, and I completely understand --
Mr. Recio: -- so we have to fund it.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- how the TIF --
Mr. Recio: No, I know. I didn't mean to --
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right.
Mr. Recio: -- suggest you didn't. But because of that, we have to come up with the money up
front --
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay.
Mr. Recio: -- in order to pay for that. That's what I meant to say.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay.
Mr. Recio: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Okay, yes, sir.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): First speaker for item PZ2, Brian Barton.
Brian Barton: Good afternoon. My name is Brian Barton. I'm at 10938 Northwest 47th Lane in
Doral. I just wanted to humbly express my support for the project. Being that Miami is the
crossroads -- international crossroads of the world practically, this will be -- this project will be
amazing for downtown. It will also not only bring as much employment as we know it will, but it
will also enhance all of our schools -- FIU (Florida International University), Johnson & Wales,
Miami -Dade Community College -- with programs for the hospitality industry, and have our
hospitality industry grow throughout the State. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Javier Betancourt.
Javier Betancourt: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Commissioners, Mr. Mayor. Javier Betancourt
with the Miami Downtown Development Authority, here today to express the DDA's (Downtown
Development Authority) very strong support for this item, which will facilitate development of the
proposed Marriott Marquis and Expo Center at Miami Worldcenter; would like to enter into the
record Resolution Number 16-2014 of the DDA board of directors in support of this project, and
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that's being distributed to you now. The DDA, as has been referenced, has been pushing hard
for a convention conference/expo center for quite some time. It's actually the first stated
objective of our 2025 Downtown Miami Master Plan, approved in 2009. We've also conducted
two separate studies on this issue in recent years. The first is a report by ULI (Urban Land
Institute) Technical Advisory Panel, which we engaged to look into the feasibility of a downtown
conference center. While we thought a conference center would be good for downtown, we
wanted to make sure that was the case. The second is a more detailed analysis of the same by
Convention Sports and Leisure, perhaps the world's preeminent consultant on this issue. Both
studies concluded that a downtown conference center is needed, feasible and highly desired. The
expo center would offer a refined business -oriented facility that will attract new meetings and
events to Miami that we're not currently able to attract. It would not re -slice the convention
center business pie; it will enlarge it. And its location at the old Arena site is perfect from a
transportation, land use and economic development perspective. It would provide a western
anchor to the Miami Worldcenter Mall; a northern anchor to All Aboard Florida's Miami central
station, essentially acting as an access between those two critical projects. It's well connected
as it's been stated, to 1-95, 1-395, Metrorail, Metromover, and future projects such as the
streetcar bay link and Tri Rail. The center would support all of downtown's hotels; it would
support our arts and cultural destinations; it would create thousands upon thousands of jobs,
and for all those reasons and more that I don't have the time to state --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Betancourt: -- we urge your support of this project. Thank you.
Chair Gort: As stated by your Chairman, "In conclusion, thank you." Next.
Mr. Hannon: Charlene Conill.
Charlene Conill: Hello. My name is Carlene Conili. I've lived in Miami for six years and lived
in the down -- and worked in the downtown area for over four. I love this City, love the energy
of Miami, but I've always been baffled by the fact that there's no real core in downtown Miami,
and I feel like this project will bring energy and jobs and a revitalization to the downtown Miami
area that it really needs. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Brad Knoefler.
Brad Knoefler: Good evening, Commissioners, Mr. Chair. Brad Knoefler, 133 Northeast 2nd
Avenue, Miami, Florida. I'm here tonight just because this is a very, very symbolic site; just to
remind you that this was the very, very first redevelopment project in the history of Miami that
was promised to revitalize the Overtown community. We all know what happened to that, which
is why the site is abandoned and we're talking about this project here. But I think the point is we
always -- we were also promised that the American Airlines Arena, Bayside, the Arscht Center
would revitalize the surrounding community. Now, while these are great institutions, they've
utterly failed to bring any kind of economic development, as we could see from walking around
the neighborhood. Why? Because they're compounds; people drive in; people drive out; they
don't interact with the neighborhood; they don't go and shop; they don't walk around. There's no
connectivity or interaction in the surrounding neighborhoods from these projects. It's been total
failure for our planners, the City officials that pushed these projects in the past. Now, we're
building a convention center on the project -- the spot, the site. These are typically more empty
structures. It seems like there's going to be some activity on the site, but by and large, this is
going to be another compound. We're talking about 120-foot sheer walls directly from the street.
All the food and beverage activity and economic activity is going to happen 129 feet up in the
sky; elevated walkways I saw in the Herald articles and a defensive structure. Now, I don't know
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what you want, Commissioner Hardemon, for your neighborhood, but I don't want a two -class
society with elevated walkways and 120-foot restaurants in the sky while the poor and all of us
have to walk around with crack heads and homeless. These mega -complexes can further
segregate the neighborhood; not integrate into it if we don't do something. Now, I'm not going to
fault the developers; they're going to do what they have to do. But I can fault those that are look
-- supposed to look after our public interest. As elected officials, you should be asking, "Why
have all these projects utterly failed to redevelop the neighborhood over the past 30 years?
What can we, as stewards of the public interest, make sure that it works this time?" I don't see
anyone having this conversation, despite -- my opinion is this is probably the most single
important issue in the City of Miami --
Chair Gort: In conclusion?
Mr. Knoefler: Yes. We need to understand how these projects are going to impact our life and
make sure that -- we're looking up to you to ensure that these things actually happen the way
they're going to say they do and not in a negative manner. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Applause
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Hello.
Mr. Hannon: Romina Meta.
Romina Meta: Hello. My name is Romina Meta. I have lived in Miami for over 13 years, and
have worked in Brickell and downtown area for all this time. While our downtown area is
diverse, interesting, dynamic, it still lacks a center point which many other cities have created.
I'm in favor of the Marriott Expo Center, because along with the Miami Worldcenter Project, it
will bring life to the heart of Miami that it has been missing for years. I also know how
important tourism and international visitors are to growing our economy, and a real convention
center will help us compete as a city and as a region and will help us create new jobs. I think the
project will be a landmark to both local residents and visitors from all over the world. I fully
support the Marriott Expo Center Hotel and hope you will also. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Mildred Riscigno.
Mildred Riscigno: Dear Commissioners and Mr. Chair, my name is Mildred Riscigno. I worked
in the downtown Miami area for 15 years, and I have been in the hospitality and tourism
industry for 25 years. I have witnessed the growth, progress and development of this area. I can
assure you, with this project, we will become a pristine destination in which we are able to
compete with world -class convention centers, such as Orlando, Atlanta, Las Vegas and many
others. Also, the local business owners will benefit from this project. I am in favor of this
project, because as a professional in the hospitality industry, I believe this world -class hotel and
retail space will transform downtown Miami as a preferred destination and provide lots of jobs,
opportunities. Again, I encourage you all to move on with this project to start attracting visitors
and major events to this area. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Ted Weitzel.
Ted Weitzel: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Ted Weitzel, Poinciana Village, 201 Northwest 7th
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Street, Miami, 33136. I'm very much in favor of this project. You know, it's the third one that is
important to us. All Aboard has started; we plan that the mall will be started by the end of the
year, and I hope that these people will break ground by the end of the year. My lender disagrees
with some of the statements here in saying that if these three projects go forward, they will
finance my project of Poinciana Village, so it's very important to me that this project gets
approved and starts and starts quickly, 'cause I think it will change the area. I mean, as you all
know, you've seen the area, and I've been in the area 30 years, and we need something like this
to vitalize the area, and I think it will do it. And anyway, my lender thinks it will do it, and that's
what I'm really counting on, 'cause I want to start also right behind these people. If they get
started at the end of the year, I should be able to start in six months, so please approve it quickly.
I thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: The last speaker I have signed up for item PZ.2 is Hopi Morton.
Hopi Morton: Hello. Good afternoon. My name is Hopi Noelle Morton. I recently located to
Miami from New York City, and I came here to work with social entrepreneurs and nonprofits. I
had the privilege to manage an event called Over the Edge Miami that was a extreme sports
repelling event at the J.W. Marriott Marquis. Commissioner participated in that event and
repelled off the 19th floor of the J. W
Commissioner Suarez: Showing off again; showing off, showing off
Ms. Morton: I'm really coming to you from a community perspective. I agree with the gentleman
that it is very important that this involves the entire community and serves it. The J.W. really
supported this event when nobody else would. They took a chance. They had a vision, and they
saw the vision not only for Miami for downtown, but they saw the vision for the entire
community. This event sponsors and people repels fund -- the fundraising goes towards Liberty
City and families and children in Liberty City. So I believe that they have a vision and they see
the greater vision here. I also live in the Arts District and enjoy Art Basel, and I know that this
will also have a impact there. I lived in Brooklyn most of my life, and I saw the impact of hotels
and conference centers revitalizing my community, and so I support this, and I thank you for
your time.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Anyone else? Hello?
Commissioner Sarnoff Close the public hearing.
Chair Gort: Is anyone else? Seeing none, hearing none, we close the public hearing. Do you
have -- I don't think you have any rebuttal, do you?
Mr. Recio: Actually just one clarification just for the record, because I -- there -- I just want to
make sure that we're all clear. This will be privately financed through construction financing.
The TIF commitments are incredibly important in order to secure that financing, so I just wanted
to make sure that that was clear for the record so that there are no questions about it.
Commissioner Suarez: I had a feeling that clarification was coming.
Chair Gort: Thank you. I'm glad you did that. Okay, comments.
Commissioner Sarnoff So move.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
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Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff; second by Commissioner Suarez. Any
further discussion?
Mr. Garcia: IfI may --
Commissioner Sarnoff You know, Mr. Chair, candidly, anybody that ever went to my office,
from day one, there's a picture of a convention center in there. It's the first time I've ever seen
Miami Beach not try to kill something, so it's actually a bigger red letter (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
than we're all making of it, but I think you've seen the very, very transformation of the City of
Miami right before you. In 15 years when Suarez goes on to be President and his Vice President
is Hardemon --
Commissioner Suarez: You mean Suarez, Jr.
Commissioner Sarnoff No, probably you.
Commissioner Suarez: Little Suarez.
Commissioner Sarnoff Probably you. -- he'll remember this day and think to himself he had a
lot to do with the Miami World Expo Center, so I think it's a red letter day. I think anything I say
more than that just detracts from what it is.
Commissioner Suarez: You know -- Mr. Chair, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Suarez: I want to say that when Brickell City Centre was purchased by Swire, the
property that it sits on, I remember walking to the property itself and counting the number of
buildings, and understanding, and I remember thinking to myself after I got to the fifth or sixth --
I think I got to like 12 or 13 or 14 that were within visible sight and walking distance from that
parcel, I kept thinking to myself "Why hasn't anyone ever done this before?" as I was counting
the buildings. And it's kind of the same situation. You know, you wonder why the City or no one
has -- and it's a massive project. I mean, we're talking about a multi -hundred- million -dollar
project. Those things don't happen overnight, they don't happen every day. Nevertheless, it's
going to be a major convention center, and it's -- that's one of the major needs. And while
there's a part of me that agrees or can understand what Brad is talking about when he talks
about areas that seem to be confined within themselves, and I get what he's saying. I think he'll
be pleasantly surprised for two reasons: One, you're starting to see the design of these have a lot
of -- and there was a lot of discussion on Miami Worldcenter about paseos and open areas,
because you want to take advantage of the fact that this is a city that has a great climate, that
has great weather, and you start to see also the connectivity, because he's -- you have a good
point in the sense that things right now seem to be a little bit scattered, and they are. But once
you start connecting Midtown to the Design District to downtown to Brickell and all that
connectivity starts to actually happen, then what before seemed like a very piecemeal
hodgepodge kind of confined type of building and planning I think opens up tremendously, and it
calls for people to interact with that. And I think that's why this Commission has urged me to go
before the MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) and try to see if we can get the streetcar
accomplished so that we have that connectivity and people can interact with all of these different
commercial centers in a way that really takes advantage of the full beauty of the City of Miami.
Chair Gort: Thank you. You're recognized, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: What I think we have to keep in mind is that Miami is a young city. This
is not an old city. It hasn't been around for a very long time. And what I enjoy is having the
opportunity to have Miami compete against some of the oldest cities in America and
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internationally. And one of the advantages that we have in that is that we can place in our
communities state-of-the-art facilities that other places just don't have the capacity to do, and
that includes things like the port tunnel. I mean, these things are exciting for our community. So
I'm excited that we have an opportunity to introduce this type of facility to our community, and
the buck doesn't stop there. Of course, there are many different negotiations that have to go on
to move things forward in a way that's most beneficial for everyone that's going to enjoy the
facility and live around the facility. And this, though, is symbolic. I mean, this is symbolic of
how we now will compete against the convention centers of -- all over the nation, because now,
with us having this in the future in South Florida, even more than one, we'll have an opportunity
to pull some of that tourism to the City of Miami for things other than sun, fun, beaches, but then
they get to enjoy that, as well, because I'm sure they'll make the decision to be here because of it.
Chair Gort: You know, convention tourism is one of the most important. We have a lot of people
to come here, like you stated before, to see the beach, the nightclubs and so on and the life that
we have in Miami, but when you bring conventions here, you're bringing businesspeople that will
come, and then they will want to come back with their family. Now, the -- talking about the --
what do we do as a City Commission to make sure we connect all our neighborhoods? If you
recall, we were talking about the trolley, the trains, about -- originally, it was going to be just in
Biscayne Boulevard and the Health Center. Well, today, the trolley system that we established, it
connects Allapattah, Overtown, downtown Miami, Little Havana, all the way to Coral Gables.
So we do take care of them and we make sure we bring our communities together; we're really
working towards that. Thank you. Any further discussion? Being none, all in --
Mr. Garcia: Commissioners, please, ifI may? I apologize, Mr. Chairman, but briefly, to clam
the record, the item is amended as it was revised to reflect the outcome of the Planning, Zoning
& Appeals Board. I just wanted to put that in the record.
Chair Gort: Correction. The maker of the --
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Chair Gort: As amended. Okay. All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Recio: Thank you very much.
PZ.3 RESOLUTION
14-00421 ha
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AFFIRMING THE MIAMI HISTORIC PRESERVATION
AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD'S APPROVAL OF AN
APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
WITH CONDITIONS FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A MIXED -USE
BUILDING AT 4510 NORTHEAST 2ND AVENUE AND 191 NORTHEAST
45TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, WITHIN THE BUENA VISTA EAST
HISTORIC DISTRICT.
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14-00421ha 10-09 Fact Sheet.pdf
14-00421 ha Appeal Letter.pdf
14-00421ha HEPB Reso, Staff Analysis & Maps.pdf
14-00421 ha Supporting Documentation.pdf
14-00421ha Legislation (v3).pdf
14-00421ha Legislation (v2).pdf
14-00421ha Exhibit SUB.pdf
14-00421ha-Submittal-Ben Fernandez-180 NE 45th ST Area Photo.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Ben Fernandez -Letter of InsuffientAppeal for 191 NE 45 St + 4510 NE 2 A\
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Ben Fernandez -Letters of Support from Neighbors.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Ben Fernandez-Transcrips of HEPB-May 6, 2014-Item No. 14-00420.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Ben Fernandez -Transcripts of HEPB-June 3, 2014-Item No. 14-00421.pdf
14-00421ha-Submittal-Wendy Stephan -Buena Vista East Historic District Map and Pictures.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Wendy Stephan -Chapter 23 Code.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Wendy Stephan -Current Code Section 23.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Wendy Stephan -Transcripts of HEPB-June 3, 2014-Item No. 14-00421.pdf
14-00421ha-Submittal-Wendy Stephan -Transcripts of HEPB-May 6, 2014 -Item No. 14-00420.pdf
14-00421 ha -Submittal -Wendy Stephan -Transcripts of HEPB-May 6, 2014-Item No. 14-00421.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Hardemon, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Suarez and Hardemon
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Carollo
R-1 4-0407
Chair Gort: PZ 3.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Thank you, sir. Item PZ.3 is before you as a
resolution for consideration of an appeal of a certificate of appropriateness issued by the
Historic and Environ --
Chair Gort: Quiet, please. Go ahead.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you, sir. So this is before you again as a resolution to consider an appeal of
a certificate of appropriateness that was issued by the Historic & Environmental Preservation
Board at their meeting of June 3, 2014. So the HEP (Historic & Environmental Preservation)
Board approved the certificate of appropriateness. This is -- the site is on 2nd Avenue, Northeast
2nd Avenue and Northeast 45th Street. The address is 4510 Northeast 2nd Avenue and 191
Northeast 45th Street. And what is the subject of the certificate of appropriateness is new
development of a three-story mixed -use building. I believe that you have the details of the plans
in your backup materials. The other thing that I will state -- and again, I'll yield to the
appellants to state their case and make myself available to answer any questions. The other
thing I will state is that the final product approved by the Historic & Environmental Preservation
Board was a result of a very thorough review and analysis by the Planning & Zoning Department
and the Preservation Office. And also, there were a number of different iterations that were put
in place and it was the second significant revision proposed by the architects that, in the end,
was able to obtain consensus from the Historic & Environmental Preservation Board. That said,
I'll allow the appellants, of course, to state their case and their concerns. Our recommendation
is that you deny the appeal and uphold the Historic & Environmental Preservation Board's
certificate of appropriateness. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Yes, sir, you're recognized.
Ben Fernandez: Mr. Chair, I am not the appellant. The appellant is the neighborhood.
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Luis Guttierez: My name is Luis Guttierez. I live at 151 Northeast 46th Street. I'm, together
with the Board of the Historic Neighborhood Association, are appealing this decision, and my
coworker here, Wendy Stephan, will explain why we're -- have been doing such appeal.
Wendy Stephan: Good afternoon. My name is Wendy Stephan. I live at 101 Northeast 43rd
Street. I've lived 19 years in Buena Vista East now; I raised two children there. I'm a current
board member of the Buena Vista East Historic Neighborhood Association, and I am here
representing the board today. I'd like to thank our neighbors, first of all, because we had to raise
-- and I think this is important for the Commission to understand -- $3, 300 to be here today.
That is a really steep barrier, so when you -- you know, I know you like to hear from communities
about procedural and issues. Thirty-three hundred dollars amounts to more than $10 per
household in our little neighborhood.
Commissioner Suarez: That was an appellate fee?
Ms. Stephan: It was -- $550 is the fee, but then we had to pay to notice all the residents within
500 feet, which turned into $3,300. So I think that's a really high barrier. So we were able to
raise the money, and I wanted to thank our neighbors for pitching in on that issue. So at this
point, I'd like to enter a number of documents into the record. This includes the transcripts of the
two hearings that were relevant for today's discussion and two versions of the City's Chapter 23
Code. That's great; well go ahead and enter it. No, that just goes to the City Clerk. Thanks. I'd
also like to provide you at this point with a very small packet, and this was basically the
information that was provided to the Historic Preservation Board at the hearing, so you have a
copy of what they saw, in addition to a map of the Buena Vista East Historic District, the site and
some of the other relevant issues.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Stephan: So we have a very detailed presentation today, and I'd ask you to give us the
opportunity to layout our arguments very clearly and concisely. We're going to move rapidly
through them, but there's a lot of material here. So I'm here today with other residents of Buena
Vista, not only because this proposal is contextually inappropriate for our small historic
neighborhood, but also because based on publicly available documents and the testimony of City
staff and HEP Board members, we found that the entire certificate of appropriateness process in
this case was conducted without basis in the City's Historic Preservation Ordinance, Chapter 23.
Our emphasis in this appeal is overwhelmingly procedural. In the most simple terms, we're
asking the City to follow its own rules. In our appeal, we'll begin by addressing the certificate of
appropriateness for demolition and new construction. These two approvals are interlocked;
without one, the other cannot stand. So there are two buildings on the site right now, so we have
to consider the two applications together. That's HEB -- PB R 2014-022 was the demolition and
HEBP [sic] R 2014-025 was the new construction, just to be clear. In the consideration of the
demolition request, Historic Preservation Officer Meagan Schmidt stated in page 1 of her staff
report: The standards for the board's decision to demolish included consideration of proposed
plans for reuse of the property, and I quote, "The appropriateness of said plans to the character
of the historic site or district," unquote. However, at the beginning of the hearing, Assistant City
Attorney Amanda Quirke had Ms. Schmidt stop and state on the record that the criteria she cited
had been, and I quote from the transcript, "inadvertently removed from Chapter 23." Ms.
Quirke, however, allowed the hearing to continue, utilizing the missing standards. This caused
the board great confusion. So Board Member Gary Hecht said: "Staff says where there are
architectural plans presented, we have to look at that in order to decide whether to demolish."
And later said: "There seems to be an argument about what Chapter 23 really says and I'd like
to know what it says."
Barnaby Min (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair, ifI may interrupt. I believe the individual is
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talking about the demolition, which, unfortunately, has not been appealed and it is not before
this Board's consideration.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Min: The COA (certificate of appropriateness) that has been appealed and is before this
Commission's consideration deals with the construction, the new construction that is being
proposed.
Ms. Stephan: IfI may address that?
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Ms. Stephan: The certificate of appropriateness for new construction triggered the certificate of
appropriateness for demolition, so the certificate of appropriateness for demolition was explicitly
conditional on the approval of new construction, so these two are interlocked, and they were
heard together in the hearings, and we need to address them together, because to address them
separately is meaningless so --
Chair Gort: Go right ahead.
Ms. Stephan: Thank you.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: I could object for the record as to that. I would agree with your City Attorney.
And as long as we're talking about matters of jurisdiction, I would like to restate for the record
my objection that was presented at the prior meeting where this was deferred that this matter is
not properly before you; jurisdiction has not been invoked pursuant to Chapter 23; the appeal
that was submitted by the applicant was not submitted with grounds for the appeal and,
therefore, there was no proper appeal filed within the requisite time frame. I submit that for the
record on letter.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Yes. Go ahead.
Ms. Stephan: Thank you. So at this point, after Gary Hecht made this point, Ms. Quirke again
stated -- and quoting -- "The current Code does not contain those specific criteria. Those
criteria were included in a previous version of the Code." Again quoting Ms. Quirke, My
understanding is that they're going to be worked back in, but they're not there as of today."
Again, Ms. Quirke allowed the hearing to continue utilizing the same old standards, not
referencing any current standards or correct standards. So Board Member Timothy Barber, our
appointee from District 5 -- who's quite good, by the way -- said "We need to have more clarity
about the criteria." He asked about the criteria for demolition of contributing versus
noncontributing structures and said -- and I quote -- "Does the 50-year apply here?" The board
was struggling to understand what they were supposed to be considering the demolition permit
based on, and they got no answers. So on May 6, after over an hour of standard free debate, the
certificate of appropriateness for demolition was approved, explicitly conditional; condition
number one, on the approval of a certificate of appropriateness for a new construction with no
reference in the motion to Chapter 23 or any legal standard, whatsoever. So after the hearing,
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we did some research on MuniCode to try to understand what happened there. What we found is
that Chapter 23, as it stands right now, your Code, contains no provision for demolition of
existing structures in a historic district. No provision for it, whatsoever. This entire section that
had that title, "Demolition of Existing Structures," formerly 23-5(c)(2), was removed from the
Code, apparently, sometime in 2010, from what we can see. This is a huge problem for this
application. Chapter 23-6.2(a) states, "All certificate of appropriateness shall be subject to the
applicable criteria in this section and any other applicable criteria specified in this chapter as
amended, " as amended. Chapter 23-6.2(b), it further states, "The decision of the board shall be
based upon the guidelines set forth in subsection C 'as well as the general purpose and intent of
the chapter. There are no specific guidelines for demolition of existing structures, so we must
rely on the intent. That's all we have left, right? The intent is 23-1(a), to preserve and protect
the heritage of the City through the identification, evaluation, rehabilitation, adoptive use,
restoration, and public awareness of Miami's historic, architectural, and archeological
resources. Section 23.1 -- or -1, in its entirety, makes no mention of demolition, whatsoever. On
the contrary, it uses eight different terms that all mean "preservation." Now, if the Commission
were to determine that the absence -- or interpret the absence of guidelines to mean there was no
restriction on demolition in historic districts, there would be no mechanism for determining or
distinguishing between contributing structures, noncontributing structures, or even possibly
individually designated structures. Your Code has a hole in it that a semi -tractor trailer could
walk -- drive through. This was clearly inadvertent, as the Assistant City Attorney mentioned.
Taking the position that there are -- the absence of guidelines is permissive would open the door
to demolition on demand in the City's historic districts, an utter violation of the intent and
purpose of the City's historic preservation ordinance. The issue of when and under what
conditions demolition can occur is highly relevant for all historic districts. Historic structures
are a finite resource; once they're gone, they're gone, right? And Buena Vista East is one of the
most intact historic districts we have and one of the largest. Our board recently met with two
different developers regarding their interest in demolishing historic structures : 4218 Northeast
2ndAvenue -- this is -- this actually is pictured in your packet on page 3, image 6125. This is
one of the ones up for demolition -- and a residential structure, 170 Northeast 48th. Both of
these are at opposite ends of the same corridor that we're discussing. We have a concern about
domino demolitions. We've identified two completed demolitions in historic districts that
occurred since 2010; one at 5975 Northeast 5th Avenue in historic Palm Grove and 660
Northeast 68th Street in historic Bayside. We wonder on what legal basis these demolitions were
approved. We believe that the City's failure to comply with the actual historic preservation
ordinance is fueling speculative practices by investors, particularly by implying there are
distinctions between properties that are contributing versus noncontributing or well -kept versus
derelict. These distinguishing aspects are not in our Code. The entire certificate of
appropriateness process flows from Chapter 23. We believe the issue of the missing language is
fatal to this application and believe the City should effectively bar demolitions in historic
districts until such time as the Code is amended to include the relevant guidelines. We've raised
this issue both with Mayor Regalado and with Assistant City Manager Alice Bravo just
yesterday. So that first is the basis, so I can now move on to our opposition to the new
construction piece. Again, this is process, entirely process -related questions. At the beginning of
the June 3 hearing, Mr. Fernandez stated that the proposed project was consistent with the
Miami 21 T4 transect -- and I quote -- "in terms of size, scale, lot coverage, FLR (floor area
ratio)," et cetera. The plans note that the proposed project is not in compliance with Miami 21.
It requires two waivers relating both to the size of the building; one to allow 70 percent lot
coverage instead of 60 percent and one to build over the entire 10 foot front setback. Both of
these together make a much, much larger building. If they were not to receive the setback
waiver, it would, according to Mr. Fernandez' testimony, quote, "reduce the scale of the
building." Miami 21 Code 5.41 state -- B'Atates, "Lot coverage by any building shall not exceed
that shown in illustration 5.4," which is the 60 percent. Section 7.1.2.5 states, "The inability to
achieve maximum floor plate for the transect shall not be considered grounds for the granting of
a waiver." This waiver, this 10 percent reduction waiver, cannot be combined with any other
specific waiver of the same standard, so all these waivers, these noncompliance issues are going
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toward making a building much larger. This applicant is seeking two waivers to go 10 percent
over the maximum lot coverage. Architect Annette Richter reviewed the plans also and found the
following additional deviations from Miami 21 all relating, again, to the building size: The
proposed plans do not provide the required 10 percent green space required in Miami 21; green
space is defined as an open space -- outdoors, at grade, unroofed, landscaped, and my emphasis,
free of impervious surfaces; all but 750 square feet of this lot, which is 95.5 percent, is filled with
concrete parking garage. The remaining 4.5 percent contains a wall and, according to the plans
provided, a raised planter. There is not a square foot that is not filled with concrete on this lot.
That is not in compliance of Miami 21. Ms. Richter confirmed with the Zoning administrator
yesterday that a parking garage is indeed impervious and cannot take up more than 90 percent
of a lot. To add even further to the square footage, the plans actually feature an overhang of
approximately two feet into the right-of-way over the sidewalk at the principal frontage. This
can be seen both on the rendering and in the north elevation of the plans. Miami 21 doesn't
allow buildings to reach out over the right-of-way. This building is so large, it actually
overflows its lots. So how do the plans for out of compliance with Miami 21 come to the HEP
Board? According to the testimony of Mr. Derrick Cook of the Planning & Zoning Department,
the plans presented to the HEP Board had not been fully reviewed by his department and should
have been. He stated the board shouldn't have to worry about Miami 21 compliance issues and
summarized with -- and I quote -- "It's the cart before the horse in this procedure." Mr. Cook
noted another recent case in which a design approved by the HEP Board did not comply with
Miami 21, but since the HEP Board is, in his words, "a higher authoritative body than the
Planning Department," they were, in essence, stuck with a noncompliant proposal. Again,
Assistant City Attorney Amanda Quirke acknowledged the problem, saying, "There's been a
recent effort to coordinate much better between historic preservation and planning and zoning to
avoid the conflicts where something that may have been approved by the board is not in
compliance with zoning requirements." Coordination clearly did not happen in this case. The
result of these process shortcomings was that this application received less scrutiny than the
average building permit application rather than more, which is the intent of historic preservation
ordinance. The whole process is that it's supposed to add a layer, not provide a shortcut straight
to the board that gets stamped and then who knows whether they're in compliance or not? We
think this is yet another reason this approval should be reversed. We have specific objections too
about the historic context of the building. Chapter 23 is fairly clear on this, indicating that the
proposed work shall not adversely affect the historic architectural or aesthetic character of the
subject structure -- In this case, they're knocking it down -- or the relationship in congruity,
which means having the same size and shape between the subject structure and its neighboring
structures and surroundings including, but not limited to, form, spacing, height, yards, materials,
color, rhythm, and pattern, window openings and building facades, nor shall the proposed work
adversely affect the special character or special historic architectural or aesthetic interest or
value of the overall site or district. We can demonstrate the proposed building lacks congruity
with the other neighborhood structures and will have a negative impact on the special character
of Buena Vista East. The first page of your packet features a map of the district. Take a look at
that. The circled site is the subject property. The pink and yellow areas are the two relevant
streets for contextual reference. If you look at pages 2 and 3, you'll note the proposed structure
resembles neither the homes along 45th Street, nor the existing mixed -use properties along
Northeast 2ndAvenue. None of the architectural styles described on page 17 of the City's 1987
Buena Vista East Historic Designation Report are referenced in the proposed design. On page 2
you see the existing homes of 45th Street, typified by Mediterranean revival, arched openings,
bracketed cornices and eaves, decorative tiles, columns, balconies, wrought iron. On page 3 you
see the existing buildings of Northeast 2ndAvenue. These, we think, are the most relevant for
this property, and they're typified by Art Deco. So you can see here cool pastel colors and,
again, in the designation report, described as smooth faced walls, banded windows, eyebrows,
racing stripes, stylized decorations based on nautical or tropical symbols. I'd like to note, too, in
your packet that two of the buildings pictured, number 6107 and 6108, are a recent construction
to which there was no neighborhood opposition, whatsoever. You can see they blend in well with
the rest of the corridor. Ms. Schmitt raised significant concerns about aspects of the proposal
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that were never resolved. She noted the appropriate scale and use of compatible or nonintrusive
materials in the existing buildings, and then with demolition, she raised the concern it's the loss
of appropriate scale and context that would be felt given what is being proposed to replace the
structures. Ms. Schmitt recommended the plans be revised to be, quote, "more in line with the
form, massing and materials."
Chair Gort: I'll give you a chance to rebuttal later on; write down and you can do it.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair, it's just misstatements.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Fernandez: That's the first --
Chair Gort: Excuse me; I'm not going to have debate --
Mr. Fernandez: Sure.
Chair Gort: -- going back and forth. You get all the same time you need to go ahead and
rebuttal --
Ms. Stephan: And I do -
Chair Gort: -- please.
Ms. Stephan: -- have the page numbers, if you want to hear them -- I don't think you do -- page
numbers and line numbers from the report. The revisions made did not substantially address the
scale, form or massing of the building, specifically -- and this is critical -- the approved building
will have lot coverage of more than double the existing structures and four and a half times the
current square footage on the property. This is seen in page A-03.00-03 in their plans. No other
building in Buena Vista East even remotely approaches 28,000 square feet in size. The proposed
36-foot height is 44 percent taller than the nearest two-story building. The revised plans did not
reflect any change in massing or footprint. The applicant has stated to neighbors that their
garage with help with the neighborhood parking problem but will actually offer no extra
capacity. This overly large building requires the provision of 45 parking spaces. The garage
entrance is currently planned for Northeast 45th Street, a typically narrow historic right-of-way
that my colleague will address later. As you see in the photos, 45th Street is a beautiful and one
of the most historically intact streets in our neighborhood with a high concentration of
contributing structures. Traffic calming plan -- City Traffic Calming Plan B-30891 calls for 45th
Street to actually become a one-way running east, which means all approaching traffic could
potentially be driven through the neighborhood to get to the building. This stretch of Northeast
2ndAvenue has been plagued by traffic woes, including a pedestrian fatality in 2013, and just
this week on October 4, a multi -car injury accident sent 10 people to the hospital one block from
the site. Until the promised city street improvements are completed, we are very concerned about
adding additional capacity to this corner. A local traffic study would be very helpful in
determining how much capacity we can handle, particularly in regard to parking. We just don't
know what the area can handle, and we're concerned about that. We also think that the
elimination of the front setback in a building likely to become a restaurant with cafe seating has
a safety -- you know, it's a safety concern after this week's issue. Bottom line, if this building
were congruent with other neighborhood structures, we would be less worried about the parking
garage and the traffic. We just think the building is too large. The HEP Board deliberations on
this item also did not identifir any positive contextual design features at all. Ms. Lewis noted it
didn't comply with Miami 21; that they need both waivers in order to build the building. Mr.
Myers then repeatedly said, "There's too much glass, there's too much glass. It's too modern."
He summarized by saying, "It is a very contemporary building in a historic neighborhood, and
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I'd like it to have some reference to those historic pieces of architecture and historic detailing,"
and it doesn't have that. The June 3 HEP Board motion to approve the new construction and, by
extension, the demolition made no mention of Chapter 23 and instead stated that the decision
was, ironically, in accordance with the Secretary of the Interior Standards. After some digging,
we found that these standards actually refer to the rehabilitation of historic buildings, not
demolition or new construction. So again, here's the motion of the board that has to be governed
by Chapter 23 is governed by something unrelated. So in conclusion, the decision of the board
shall be based on the guidelines set forth in Subsection C, that's Chapter 23-6.2, as well as the
general purpose and intent of the chapter. It further states the decision of the board shall
include a complete description of its findings. No such report was created, because there is no
provision in Chapter 23 for demolition of existing structures. We ask that you vote today to
reverse the HEP Board approvals based on the substantial competent evidence submitted into the
record regarding the legitimate concerns of residents of Buena Vista East. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Excuse me.
Mr. Fernandez: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, members of the Commission. Once again, Ben
Fernandez, 200 South Biscayne Boulevard, here on behalf of the property owner, SLH
Investments. With me is Mr. Harry Benita and Kobi Karp, our project architect. In response to
some of the things that Ms. Stephan has said, I just want to make it clear that the Code is the
Code, and some of the things that Ms. Stephan has been talking about are standards that maybe
perhaps she wishes were in the Code, that the neighborhood believes might be appropriate for a
certificate of appropriateness, but the fact is that those standards are not in the Code, as has
been confirmed by your City Attorney. More importantly, even if we would allow Ms. Stephan to
create her own standards for certificate of appropriateness for the demolition of a structure, it
would be irrelevant in this case, entirely irrelevant, because this property is a noncontributing
property. It's in a historic district, but it doesn't contribute to the character in any way of the
historic district, and this is what your City of Miami Code Section 23-2 says about a
noncontributing resource. It is defined as a resource that does not add to the historic
architectural qualities, historic associations, or archeological values for which a district is
significant. It no longer possesses historic integrity reflecting its character at that time or is
incapable of yielding important information about the period. This property has absolutely zero
historic significance. The fact that it needs a certificate of appropriateness is really almost
redundant. We need a certificate of appropriateness in order to build something new in this
district. We recognize that. We went through that process before the board, and the board
determined that our proposed project was compatible with the district for a variety of reasons,
most importantly of which is the fact that the project is consistent with the existing zoning T4; it
only allows three stories, 40 feet of height. Our original proposal was 40 feet in height, but we
went to the board and the neighborhood was there and complained. They thought that that was
excessive, even though the property immediately abuts a multi family development that is two
stories in height, and I'm going to give you a picture of that. You can see what this immediately
abuts; in the rear is a two-story building. Furthermore, the other projects on Miami Avenue, you
can see from this photograph of the building to the north, are relatively compatible. This
building is sort of an older two-story version of what this is here, which is a modern three-story
version. What's even more important is that this project is providing all of its parking
underground. That is exactly what Miami 21 would like us to do with every project, is hide the
parking so that you have an active storefront on Miami Avenue, you have pedestrian activity
along all streets, you have an increased use of glazing, and you create a real pedestrian
environment, which is, by the way, characteristic of the Buena Vista neighborhood. It is a very
lively street replete with restaurants and small shops, and we want to further enhance that
character. We want to ensure that the pedestrian activity is not going to be interrupted. So if we
were to build a parking structure here, it would interfere with all of that. What we've done is, at
great expense for a small project, make all of the parking underground, and I think that's a huge
consideration and one that the HEP Board recognized was very important, and one of the
reasons that they voted in favor of this project. Again, the criticisms that you've heard expressed
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by Ms. Stephan are criticisms of your Code. They're not the Code that's in place today, and
they're not relevant to this project, because this is a noncontributing resource. The project is
consistent with all of the T4 transect regulations. In fact, we reduced the height from 40 feet to
36 feet. As a result of negotiations with the neighborhood, the project was reduced in terms of
scale, which was the only real criticism that the Historic Preservation Officer had to the initial
plan. The waivers that Ms. Stephan discussed that were to vary certain aspects of the
development are entirely consistent with Miami 21. To say that just because you're asking for a
waiver of a standard makes your project inconsistent is a false reading of Miami 21. Miami 21
specifically allows projects to vary certain standards by no more than 10 percent. They are de
minimis deviations by definition. Our deviations are minor, and when you compound them with
the fact that we've reduced the height of the building, the deviations are insignificant, because we
may be increasing the lot coverage by 6 percent through the waiver, but we're reducing the
overall height along the whole building by four feet, which is much more significant to the area.
The building could be 36,528 square feet larger than what it is today, as a result of our reduction
in height by four feet, so I think that that's a very significant reduction in terms of volume. We do
provide green space in active areas, and we're able to do that because all of the parking is
underground. This is something that many of our corridors could really benefit from: Coral Way,
Southwest 8th Street. Imagine if all of your districts, Commissioners had small projects with
underground parking. I'm sure that all the neighborhoods would welcome that sort of situation.
The problem that this neighborhood has -- you heard about the recent accident. The problem
that it has is that all the buildings that are on that street are nonconforming. They don't have
parking. So what happens is that everybody's parking on the neighborhood streets. People can't
find parking. It causes cars to go around and through the neighborhood. It's because this
neighborhood has not experienced any redevelopment in over 40 or 50 years. This is the first
new project north of the Design District in 40 or 50 years that we're aware of a significant one.
So this is parking that is going to provide a resource for the neighborhood. It's going to provide
parking not just for this project, but also for other projects in the area. We had -- I would also
like to submit the transcripts from the lower board hearings for the record. We had Ms. Ellen
Uguccioni, who was the former Preservation Officer for the City of Miami, testify on behalf of
our project, and she indicated that there had been no change to this project since 19 -- to the --
I'm sorry -- to the buildings on this property since 1987 when the historic district was created,
the Buena Vista Historic District was created, so therefore, there's no reason to consider these
buildings to be anything more than noncontributing buildings. So that is confirmed by your
former Historic Preservation Officer on the record. She also confirmed that the proposed project
would be entirely consistent with the character of the neighborhood. As a result of the changes
that were made, the HEP Board reviewed the project initially on May 6, and then it was deferred
to June 3, where it was finally approved. As a result of the changes, the height of the building
was reduced, as I mentioned; the trellises were reconfigured and were considerably set back so
as to reduce the perceived scale of the structure. In addition, the residential and commercial
uses were better articulated by enclosing the terraces with a patterned aluminum screen that was
created based on a screen that was on the property originally, so our architect commissioned an
artist from his office to replicate the design of the screen that was incorporated into one of the
buildings that is being demolished now. In addition, let me point out to you that these are only
12 units. It's a very small residential component that is involved. So, really, what you're talking
about is recreating the scale of the retail that's already existing on this street and adding 12
residential units above it, very nice residential units, I might add, a combination of three- and
two -bedroom units. These aren't all small apartments. These are luxury units, really. The
overall effect of the changes that were made reduced the scale of the building, created a greater
sense of privacy that is more common with older mixed -use properties as compared with more
modern types of architectures. The finishes were also revised to create a stone bulkhead and the
color schemes were changed to provide earth tones instead of the originally contemplated --
more modern types of tones and materials. As a result, the Historic Preservation Officer, as well
as the Historic Preservation Board, supported the project. The project was approved with strict
conditions; that the applicants secure the existing structures, which they have done. We believe
that this project is entirely consistent with your Comprehensive Plan, with your T4 zoning
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regulations, and that it was properly approved via certificate of appropriateness. The demolition
certificate of appropriateness is not before you. I agree with your counsel, Mr. Min. Those
matters were not appealed, and the only issue before you should be whether or not this proposed
project is compatible with the historic district. You haven't heard any expert testimony here from
anyone from their side as to whether or not the project is compatible with the historic district.
What you have instead is the transcripts from the lower board hearing that confirm that the
historic district does not really speak to commercial design. It is more of a residential
single-family historic district, and that this is a noncontributing property within that district.
And for all those reasons, we would ask that you uphold your staff recommendation and deny
this appeal. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. My understanding, Mr. Clerk, you have nine individuals that like to
speak.
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Yes, sir. The first speaker for item PZ.3, Farah Cadet.
Chair Gort: Mr. Fernandez, will you put down the --?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Get them closer together.
Farah Cadet: Good afternoon, Commissioners and Chairman. My name is Farah Cadet, and I
am a resident owner at 180 Northeast 45 Street, directly across from where they are planning this
proposed building. I first want to say thank you to the Council for everything you do to protect
our City here, the community of its residents. And I'm also thankful to be heard on this occasion.
So I, too, am in favor of repealing the Historic Environmental Preservation Board's decision. I
believe that the proposed building would be out of scale and character with the Buena Vista
Historic District, as you can see from the images, and others have mentioned before. And while
underground parking is very effective, I do think it would be inappropriate to have this entrance
and exit directly across from a residence. Let me point it out to you.
Chair Gort: You need the mike, ma'am. You need the mike. Where's the mike?
Ms. Cadet: So this is the house that is directly across the street from the entrance and exit
underground that they're proposing, so I think that that would be inappropriate. This here is my
property, and this house actually is my sister's property. So we are concerned about the traffic,
the tenants, the lights coming in and out at different hours, for a parking space that
accommodates 45 spaces. Additionally, we have pedestrian safety, as was mentioned before, so I
won't go into that too much. And we also do have, as was mentioned this traffic pattern where
we have residential parking on one side, and when you are coming down the street, you really do
have to be courteous and allow the other drivers to go. So a pattern of 45 parking coming in
and out through here would, I think, affect the street very much so. In addition, when you are
exiting off of 95 here, you have the opportunity to come down 40th Street, which has lights, and
continue on to Northeast 2ndAve. If the entrance were relocated to Northeast 2ndAve., this
would be the normal route. If the entrance remains on 45 Street, a residential street, people will
come down -- trucks and all sorts of things -- the pedestrian block, which looks like this and
often has children playing, bus stops, and that sort of thing. So I don't think it's appropriate on
the residential street to have the entrance. And I think everyone's covered about everything, so I
won't repeat anything. But I --
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Ms. Cadet: -- think that it's not appropriate in the size and scale, but I think with some changes,
if you do vote to approve, at least with conditions that continue to keep our neighborhood safe.
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Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Cadet: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next.
Mr. Hannon: Schiller Jerome.
Schiller Jerome: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Schiller Jerome, 24 Northeast 47 Street. I'm
also the president of the Buena Vista East Neighborhood Association. I'm not going to stay too
along. I just want to thank Wendy and thank Lewis for taking this on my behalf. I think it's very
important when people step up and decide to dedicate time and effort to they [sic] community. I
just wanted to point out one important thing. Currently right now speaking in our community,
this is the corner of 46th Street. This is the most -- this is 46th Street. This is the most traffic
corner we have, because currently you have two or three restaurants here and two or three
restaurants here. I want to let you know that both of these buildings together are 16,000 square
foot combined. The new building is 28,000 square foot. We're talking about buildings on each
side of the street, which is 8,000 square foot, but then we're going to put on one side of the street
28,000 square foot. That is totally out of context. And I want to address also the concern of the
parking. Forty-five -- the number 45 keep coming up. Please know that when you have 12 units,
which is average 1,200 to 1,500 square feet, you're going to need about two parking spaces per
unit, so 24 to 45 parking spaces is already taken up. The idea that 45 parking spaces are
available for the whole community is totally out of context. And please note that they have 9,000
square foot of commercial space on the bottom. If you ever been to a Starbucks, a 1,000 square
foot Starbuck is going to have 25 cars at any time. So the idea that there's enough parking
spaces, 25 parking spaces is enough for 9,000 square feet is totally out of compliance. So I just
want you to think about that. This is a residential community. Certain parts of City of Miami
must stay intact. I do believe in development. I am a developer myself. I buy properties. I sell
properties. But we have to keep it in balance. Last week, I watched this Commission make two
decisions. You decided to save a community from preschools because it was not warranted. But
then at the same time, you decided to develop Overtown because it's warranted. And this
decision is not warranted. I urge you to repeal this decision. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Floman Jovin.
Floman Jovin: Good afternoon. I am a resident. My name is Floman [sic]. I'm a resident at
Northeast 51st Street. I'm the owner, as well of the property. I am for the project, because in
this neighborhood, there's not only the historical district; there's the people living west of North
Miami Avenue and there's the people living north of the historical district. There's also the other
people living east of Northeast 2nd. So I think we need to take in consideration all the
neighbors, and it's not only about the historical district. In my opinion, it's about bringing more
life into this community and interlocking the community, like we said before, because this
neighborhood is like full of gentrification. A lot of new people are moving in. A lot of new
people are renovating their house, existing in like around this neighborhood, and I think that this
project is a great project for everyone around.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Jane Herrera.
Jane Herrera: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and everyone. My name is Jane Herrera. I've been
living in the neighborhood -- I'm sorry -- 95 Northeast 47th Street. I've been living in the
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neighborhood for 43 years. I've walked out many shoes doing crime watch and taking care of
our neighborhood so that it could remain as a historical neighborhood. And I'm not in favor of
what they're going to do on Northeast 46th. Okay?
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Herrera: So that's all I have to say. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Mr. Hannon: Julie Mansfield.
Julie Mansfield: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Julie Mansfield. I live at 50
Northeast 50 Terrace, Miami, 33137; also a former employee of the City of Miami. And I must
say that, first, I wish I had as much time as Ms. Wendy to investigate and know all the codes and
all that, but I got to fight to stay alive and to fight for my share of the American dream, so I got
to work. That being said, I am wholly in favor of the project 110 percent, if that is possible. I
live in the City. I work in the City. We own three businesses along the corridor. We've watched
it change. We've watched the growth. We've watched it become a friendly -- pedestrian friendly
neighborhood. We've seen that with the Buena Vista Bistro, which, I must say, we own; Buena
Vista Deli, Buena Vista Chocolate, with Lemoni Cafe, so I've seen the changes. I'm all in favor
of this. And again, we don't wish to sit by and watch or have the few hijack the project for all
beneficiaries of the area. We cannot afford to have a few squeaky wheels hijack the betterment,
the progress, and we cannot sit by and watch other neighborhoods. We heard Commissioner
Suarez and Chairman Gort talk earlier about connectivity. We can't sit by and watch other areas
of the City develop and we go, "Oh, wish we had. Wish we had jumped on the bandwagon."
And while this project is not out of scale, people keep talking about it's not a historic property
we're talking about. These are noncontributing structures. At the end of the day, they're
noncontributing structures, so we need to apply the Code as it's stated for noncontributing
structures. I'm little bit emotional 'cause, yes, I'm a little bit attached to this, and I will like to
urge the Commission, urge all of you guys to please have faith in the board that you appointed in
the Historical Preservation Board. You appointed these guys to be your eyes and ears, so I'm
going to ask you please to have faith in their decision and uphold their decision. Thank you.
Mr. Hannon: Next speaker, Crentin Finot.
Crentin Finot: Hi. Okay, my name is Crentin Finot. I live on 700 Northeast 25th Street. I'm not
too far away from the project; on the corner of the Buena Vista Deli and the Buena Vista
Chocolate, and I'm in favor of the project. I've seen the neighborhood grow, and I do believe
that having more businesses around will bring a better dynamic. And Mr. Benitah is also my
landlord for the Buena Vista Chocolate store. He's been a very good landlord, and he's a good
individual, and I think it's important for the neighborhood not to have a big corporation, but nice
individuals. So I'm in favor of the project.
Mr. Hannon: Postel Claude.
Postel Claude: My name is Claude Postel. I'm living on 50 Northeast 50 Terrace, Miami,
33137. And I'm is a owner of Buena Vista Bistro, corner of Buena Vista Deli and Buena Vista
Chocolate and Wine. I was one of the first one to open a business on Northeast 2 nd Avenue in
2007, and I see a lot of change in the neighborhood and for the best. And I think to bring more
business, you know, will bring more security, more joy, you know, and I'm very fondly for the
project, and I hope, you know, we go get over and we go to do it. Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
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Mr. Hannon: Pieter Ehrlich.
Peter Ehrlich: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Peter Ehrlich. My address is 770 Northeast
69th Street. And I'm here to support the neighbors of Buena Vista, Wendy Stephan, Farah Cadet,
Luis Gutierrez, and Schiller Jerome. This is a very tough issue. One of my favorite restaurants
is Buena Vista Deli. And I hope that, as Commissioners, you'll be able to find a compromise
here; perhaps the two parties can meet and come to a compromise so everybody can be happy. I
know this is a tough issue, but I am here to support the Buena Vista neighbors. Thank you very
much.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Andrew Frey.
Andrew Frey: Commissioners. Andrew Frey, 4001 Park Avenue, Coconut Grove. I have no
connection with the project. I saw the plans and renderings for it a few days ago. I think it's a
handsome building. And I wanted to just emphasize that I know you Commissioners do a lot on
a daily basis to try to help the small businesses, help the small local property owners make
investments in their community. And, you know, the larger point is this project may or may not
meet the criteria. I think it does, but killing a small project like this, I think, sends a bad message
to other small local property owners who are investing not only in this neighborhood but many
other neighborhoods in the City of Miami. So I think it should just -- emphasize to be judicious
and careful with politicizing the investments of our small property owners.
So thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Next.
Martha Luz Villarraga: Thank you. My name is Martha Luz Villarraga. I'm a foreigner. I
moved to Miami around two years ago. I'm coming from Los Angeles where I live 25 years. I'm
a designer, and I used to work in a design industry in LA (Los Angeles), and I have been working
in South America as well and as Europe, and now I move to the Design District around two years
ago; one of the buildings that is the only Art Deco building that is in the area. I used to live over
there. And I have -- right now I'm venturing my life as a realtor, and I have sold around five
properties in the area. I have brought a lot of investors to get to know Miami more from
overseas, to get to know more what we are right now and I'm completely am proud of this
project.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Harry Benitah.
Harry Benitah: Hello. My name is Harry Benitah. I'm the owner of those two properties on the
(UNINTELLIGIBLE). My address is 6000 Island Boulevard, Aventura, 33160, and I actually
have my office in the Buena Vista Historical District at 4340 Northeast 2ndAvenue, which is a
block away from the project. I mention that because I've been in this neighborhood for more
than eight years now. Every day -- my office is there every day. I am part of the lifestyle what's
happening in the neighborhood, and maybe sometime you see some developer throwing some
investment, coming from New York or different states. To me, this project has a lot of emotion,
because it's part of my everyday life. And I think the one thing that happened from the beginning
is the neighborhood association that is appealing against us did not understand that I was really
concerned about improving this area to -- I have seen some people, like Mr. Postel, developing
part of the business on Northeast 2nd and created a lifestyle we have today. And I think the
neighbor appealing against us also part of the one enjoying this lifestyle and the increase of the
property value and the quality of life there is in this neighborhood. I don't think there is an
opposition between making a new property and keeping the historical aspect and the small
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neighborhood aspect we have in the Buena Vista East. I see a lot of opposition based on -- to me
and my knowledge of the Code and the advice of some attorneys and architect are not really
proper compared to what we are allowed to do. When we purchase property like this, we have
some specification from the Code, like the T4 and all the requirement we are allowed to do. I
think it's very surprising that we have now to defend ourself from just respecting the -- what we
are allowed to do with the property. I hope you gentlemen will consider the fact that the only
good and -- personally, I commit that with the Historical Board, is to improve the neighborhood
and not to fight with the neighbors, and I hope one day I can have them and enjoy the property.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Mr. Hannon: Nathan Kurland. And, Chair, that is the last person I have signed up to speak for
item PZ.3.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Nathan Kurland: Nathan Kurland, 3132 Day Avenue, Coconut Grove. Squeaky wheels. Today
people who care about their community are squeaky wheels. Two weeks ago, when many of us
who love this City of Miami came here to talk about the size of the Miami World project, we were
called "distracters." Squeaky wheels. Distracters. Why? Because we care about our
neighborhoods. Miami right now is having sex with developers; the bigger, the better. And
every once in a while, we have neighbors who come here who care about their neighborhood,
who care about their community, and while we make the center of Miami a gigantic world -class
city, we have to remember how important our neighborhoods are. I urge -- and one more thing.
I totally respect people like Ben Fernandez and the kind of quality projects that are being talked
about here, but what we're talking about perhaps is just some kind of compromise to make it fit
into the neighborhood and be more appropriate. Please accept their appeal. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Is that the last speaker? We will now close the public hearings. Any
comments, motions. Francisco, do you have anything to add or --?
Mr. Garcia: I would like to, yes. Briefly, because I know that in some other presentations, some
information may have been presented to you that may appear to be confusing, so let me, very
briefly, suggest the following. While I haven't found any of the citations made to be incorrect,
they're all actually factual. They all, when you sort of zoom out and put them all together, do
form a coherent picture, and I'd like to explain to you how that is. This particular project is in a
zoning designation called T4-L, which is, in and of itself, rather difficult to work within because
it requires of a developer that prior to putting in any commercial square footage, they actually
have at least 75 percent, 80 percent of the project be residential. It asks the developer to
accomplish that in no more than three stories and no more than 40 feet. And typically, in a
smaller parcel, such as this is, to do that and to fit in parking is rather a challenge. They've
actually risen up to that challenge and solved it in a very elegant way by putting it underground,
which we think is certainly commendable. We certainly wish that more developers would do that.
It's very onerous. That said, this project then, in addition, had to go through the following
processes: They first had to go through review and obtain a permit to demolish the existing
noncontributing structures within a historic district. They -- upon achieving that, they then had
to go back and obtain a separate approval through a separate public hearing process for the new
construction, which itself went through a number of iterations until they finally landed on one
that, at least, met with the consensus of the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board.
Once they obtained that -- and, of course, that is being challenged here today before you -- they
actually had to take the next step, which is to bring it back to the Planning & Zoning Department
for review for any new development. And as it happens, that new review does trigger some
waivers, which require special review, and some of that is triggered by the fact that they need to
fit the parking underground on site. So the amount of design challenge and the amount of review
and scrutiny that this particular project has gone through is rather significant. What has
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happened, then, as they went through each one of those steps of this development and review
process is that they were forced to comply with sections of the Zoning Ordinance that spoke to
the specific scope of review that they were going under in each of these steps. If you take each of
the steps separately -- although those regulations are very coherent -- if you take the first step,
superimpose the second step and the first step and the fourth step, some of those regulations
superimpose, and we then, as staff, have to reconcile them. They're a different intent. We have to
reconcile those and try to the best of our ability and recommend to the boards, make sense out of
them and to, in the end, arrive at a satisfactory product that not only complies with the zoning
regulations, which this project does, and it also complies with the aesthetic requirements and
character requirements for a historic district, which the HEP Board has found this project does,
but also goes through the public hearing process as they have in numerous steps. So, again, I
wanted to give you every assurance that although seemingly contradictory, the regulations that
have been presented to you today are not. The one item that I wanted to address, because it may
lead to confusion is the connection -- and it's been mentioned a couple of times -- between the
demolition and the new construction in a historic district. It is true -- and it was actually stated
on the record -- that in this particular case, the approval of the demolition was conditioned by
the HEP Board by the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board, to the approval of the
new construction. So what's being appealed to you -- before you here today is a new
construction which is to satisfy a condition of the permit for the demolition as well, so that's the
connection between the two, but that does not imply that there are no criteria for the demolition,
because there are. In this particular case, this happens to be an noncontributing set of structures
in a site that has not been improved in a very long time, and when nothing else is stated forward
in the City Code, the default, as we always use, is best practices; and what your staff in the
Planning & Zoning Department and the Preservation Office has used in order to review the
demolition of the proposed structures here is the best practice of preservation, and we certainly
stand by that record. With that said, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. And once
again, our recommendation is for upholding the certificate of compliance -- I'm sorry --
certificate of approval. I will say one more thing, which is this, just to be abundantly clear: The
options before you today, just to enumerate them, are to uphold the certificate of approval -- to
overturn the certificate of approval. That's certainly an option, but there's also an option before
you today to find any additional conditions or requirements that might address some of the
concerns you've heard before you today. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Question -- 'cause I've heard here various
people request to see if they could come to some compromise. Although the HEP Board
approved, it was a narrow approval. It was 3-2 with four members absent, so that was extremely
narrow, so is there any room for some type of compromise? You know, and -- you know, I want
to offer that, because I and, I think historically, the City Commission has always been very -- you
know, have always had a very kind ear to the neighborhoods and concerns, so I'm just offering
that. Is there any type of compromise that could be worked out, you know? Are you dead set?
And are you guys dead set and --?
Ms. Stephan: Right. I --
Commissioner Carollo: You know, 'cause I would like --
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Wait a minute.
Commissioner Carollo: -- to see if there's --
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Mr. Fernandez: Commissioner -- Mr. Chair, if I may?
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Mr. Fernandez: Commissioner Carollo, we have compromised. It wasn't the only time that it
went to the HEP Board. And the building, as you heard, is more than 30,000 square feet smaller
than it could be by right under the Code. They're using the historic preservation portion of your
Code to essentially challenge a zoning approval. You've heard a lot of squeaky wheels today, but
you haven't heard any substantial competent evidence that the certificate of appropriateness --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Fernandez: -- was not issued correctly --
Chair Gort: The question was asked and you says no. You (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Fernandez: -- based on the architectural character.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Stephan: The concern we have -- and I know that Commissioner Sarnoff recalls how
involved our neighborhood was on the Miami 21 process. We devoted four years to that, because
we felt truly and deeply that it was an improvement over 11000. We want the rules to apply. We
worked hard to get them into place. We want the green space. We want the open space. So we
feel that the rules -- everything has tallow from the Code. You know, I wish it were just about
the building, but it's not. It's about the process. And that is what's critical.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Ma'am, you had an opportunity to explain quite a bit of it. Francisco,
my understanding is there's no compromise. My understanding is, their statement is that they
don't comply with Miami 21. Could you answer that? And this is -- concludes the public
hearings, so please, we're not going to have debate back and forth. Thank you.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you for the opportunity, Mr. Chairman. The project as presented right now
is compliant with Miami 21. I want to emphasize that they are still in the process of having the
plans reviewed by the Planning & Zoning Department to obtain -- I believe it's a couple of
waivers that they would have to obtain, so it's still -- it is still an ongoing review process.
Chair Gort: Okay. Thank you.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Francisco, tell me if I'm correct. The HEP Board, they had to look at a
few different factors when they approved the COA. And I'm -- I think I -- I think it will be a
complete description of his findings and show a direct (UNINTELLIGIBLE) following actions
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) issuance of a special COA for the work proposed for the applicant --
issuance of a COA with specified modifications -- oh, I'm sorry -- is one of the problems. Which
of the following did they issue? Was it -- and I'm looking at our Code, Section 23-6.2,
Certificates of Appropriateness. Do we know which one it was that they issued?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. This -- what is before you today is an appeal of a certificate of
appropriateness issued by the HEP Board for new construction within a historic district.
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Vice Chair Hardemon: Now, a COA can also be issued for the destruction; is that correct?
Mr. Garcia: The demolition of the existing structure, the existing noncontributing structures also
required a hearing by the HEP Board and that, too, required a certificate of approval, yes, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So in this case, as I understand it, the demolition was approved only --
and it was tied to a condition that the construction be approved, if that makes any sense.
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. And I'll rephrase only to clarify. The demolition was approved subject to
the approval of the new development being complete prior to the demolition of the old buildings.
Ostensibly, in an effort to prevent for the site to lay vacant for an extended period of time, which
is typically the case, so, yes, you may demolish those structures, they are noncontributing, but
before you do so, be sure you obtain the development permits for whatever new structure is going
to replace it. So that's where the link exists.
Vice Chair Hardemon: There was some reference to the cost that it took to appeal this matter,
and I know -- you being an attorney, so -- what's your name again, ma'am?
Ms. Stephan: I'm -- just to be clear, I'm not an attorney.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Oh.
Ms. Stephan: I just have read a lot of lot of lot of lot of -- My name is Wendy Stephan.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Well, you presented that very, very well. But you made a statement --
Ms. Stephan: Yeah.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- and all of us were sworn in here, so you have to understand that the
things that you say to me, I take to be true --
Ms. Stephan: Yeah.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- so I wanted to make sure that you were correct in your statement that
of the thousands of dollars that it took, you paid $10 per household (UNINTELLIGIBLE)?
Ms. Stephan: No, no, not 10, a few dollars per household. It was 550 for the initial application,
for the appeal, and then that difference between 3,300 and 550 was the per household mailing
fee -- Schiller, you can speak to that actually more. He was the one who wrote the check, so he
knows more about that.
Mr. Jerome: Schiller Jerome, 24 Northeast 47 Street. The total cost of the appeal was paid by
the association dues. We have volunteered dues that people pay into the dues. So as a board, we
vote, and we spoke to our residents, and they supported this effort. So the money that was paid
for this appeal was the dues that was paid from the owners of the neighborhood association.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So Buena Vista East, not the group of everyone. 'Cause you have a
coalition of --
Mr. Jerome: No. We have -- go ahead.
Ms. Stephan: What I said is that the $3, 300 amounts to more than $10 per household for our
whole neighborhood.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Okay.
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Ms. Stephan: Not that the payments came individually from every household. I'm sorry if that
was unclear. It's just that we only have 288 lots in our neighborhood, and we had to pay $3,300.
I just wanted to raise that for the board.
Vice Chair Hardemon: And the reason that I ask that is because I want to always make sure that
the concerns of the community are representative of the community, and sometimes we struggle
with that, because you may have a new homeowners association, say, could pop up or a civic
organization, and they could establish themselves to fight a cause, but not necessarily be
representative of the community, and I find myself in that battle. So here we are where we have a
narrow decision by the HEP Board, as was stated before. It made me uncomfortable that four
people were absent and even one of my appointees was absent, so I don't have the guidance that
I would think for someone who may think like me or may not, but at least gave it some
consideration. I can't review what he had to say about the project.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair, ifI may respond? It is a valid question. I just want to point out to
you that my client, Mr. Benitah, is also a member of this historic district and has paid more than
the pro rata share that all of these individuals pay on an annual basis so, ironically, he is
helping, I guess, to fund this appeal against himself and he's more than willing to continue,
engage in this dialogue. But he is an active participant and has attended many of the meetings
in an effort to try to reach a resolution with the neighbors.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So where I find myself in the position of difficulty is because I understand
the importance that 2ndAvenue plays to this community. I understand the importance of the
restaurants that exist on 2ndAvenue. And a little known fact, but I was out there at the time just
-- well -- I frequent 2nd Avenue and have lunch and sometimes dinner at BVD (Buena Vista
District) and Lemoni and all of those restaurants that are there, and I've seen the new
construction that goes on, and I know how it attracts the type of vitality to those communities
that we want, because they will improve the property values and such. The HEP Board decision,
though, was based on this property being a noncontributing structure, and noncontributing
versus contributing means something in the way that I would think of it. I am not totally sold one
way or the other, and I understand that here we are with a task. We have a task where we get
presented facts de novo, and we have an opportunity de novo to review this and make our
recommendations one way or the other, okay. So when you say, "Well, we've compromised,"
and then the Chair takes away the position from your statement that there is no compromise --
there's no more compromise to make, how was it as -- we as a board supposed to feel about that?
Because, remember, my decision is to either deny, to approve, or to mod, or we come up with
some type of compromise, right? So ifI -- I put myself in a situation as the fact -finder where we
have a 3-2 decision from the HEP Board, constituents from my community on the business side
and on the residential side that say -- and I'm not even sure they're saying necessarily "no."
Ms. Stephan: We're not.
Vice Chair Hardemon: I haven't necessarily heard "no, " but I will tell you what will get a "no"
from me or at least an approval of a -- of an appeal is someone not necessarily being helpful to
their community, and I know you own property and you reside within that community, but we
have to live together in that community, and so I just wanted to make sure that that is how you
feel about it; that you will compromise no more in moving forward this application.
Mr. Benitah: IfI may answer after that?
Chair Gort: State your name into the record, please.
Mr. Benitah: I'm sorry. Harry Benitah. What my -- Attorney was mentioning is we already did
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compromise, meaning, we've actually -- some of the people, Ms. Stephan, Mr. Schiller, and
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) with the architect office, we took note and we met also with City staff, Ms.
Megan Schmitt, to take in consideration all the requests they have, and we change the design and
the scale of the property based on their recommendations. To be honest with you, I prefer the
first design than the actual design, and I think most of the people do. But because we have to
compromise, we did that. I am not willing, but we don't want to compromise, but I was very
surprised. But after the compromise we did, then the neighborhood association is trying to argue
more and more on our back instead of working together and find a solution for our
neighborhood. That's why I feel that today it's hard to say, "Okay. Well, I don't mind to work,
you know, with the association, " but they have to represent the entire. And also you have to
know something is most of the resident that lives in the Buena Vista is almost scared to talk,
because the association is not really protecting them. They are just complaining about what's
going on in the area instead of growing the area. And also, I think that it should not be a battle
between neighbor; it should be a community that grows. And today there is no disputing in the
neighborhood. There is like different sides. And because of some personal attitude from the
person of the Groves, people don't get involved in the community, and this is a wrong thing, and
I would like this to change also.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Vice Chair Hardemon: For instance, when I think about what's before me, one of the things that
I heard from the community was that there were concerns about the traffic on 45th Street. We
understand that 45th Street is not a very wide street and 2nd Avenue would be the better option,
say, for instance, for traffic to ingress -- or egress and ingress from the property. So for instance,
one of the things that I thought about just from looking at the design -- and as a laymen; I'm no
architect -- but -- is that when you're exiting -- for instance, when you come into the property, if
you're traveling down 2nd Avenue and then you turn on 45th Street, because you're on the
corner, the traffic would turn into your property. They turn into your property. They don't go
further down 45th Street.
Mr. Benitah: Correct.
Vice Chair Hardemon: But coming out of the property, they have the option, as of today, for
instance, of turning down 45th Street, down the residential street.
Mr. Benitah: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right.
Mr. Benitah: We propose to put a signage with a left turn only, and we also propose to the
neighborhood during the last meeting of the association where I attend to provide a valet
parking service. That will be the only one accessing the garage and would only follow the rules.
We would tell them to come back directly on Northeast 2nd.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right.
Mr. Benitah: We talking about a 40-feet distance between Northeast 2nd and the entrance of the
parking.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Well, I grew up in a community where you can have no dumping signs
and still have crash collected under "no dumping."
Mr. Benitah: No. I mean --
Vice Chair Hardemon: So I -- so signs, to me, mean nothing.
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Mr. Benitah: Okay.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right? So in that -- for instance, a compromise there would be creating
an infrastructure that would make it impossible for them to turn right into the community, so -- I
think they call those bump -outs or something of that nature; if you have a bump -out where you
have to go left. And if you choose to go right, that mean you actually have to probably make a
three-point turn, which is unsafe to make in that tight area to go towards the community. So that
was one of the things that I thought about as a compromise.
Mr. Benitah: Sure.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Now, that is for compromising, because if there is no compromise and
I'm forced to decide one way or the other, right -- and this is a situation here where you can't --
you don't split the baby. You know, we have to protect our communities, we have to make sure
that the communities grow, but we want to make sure that we're good neighbors. So I appreciate
my Commissioners for being here and listening throughout this discussion, but compromise, I
think, at times, is necessary. Sometimes further compromise, and I'll tell you why. Your original
approval was conditioned on another approval. So you agree -- you didn't say, "We have your
approval, fine." You're saying, "We have the approval, but this condition would build in
another" -- "with the construction of the new facility." So to me, you're always in this constant
battle of trying to get the approval that you need to move forward with the project. I want to be
able to attract development within my communities. You are the one that actually makes that
happen. I don't think the government should be in a position where we put so much -- so many
barriers of entry for restaurants and for other types of commercial enterprises to come into our
community. We should do our best to lower them, but we can't do it at the expense of those that
abut the immediate property, right? So for the record, before I decide which way that I think this
should go, I want to know from the residents, what type of compromise do you think is fair?
Because I only deal in fair and reasonable, and just so it's on the record before us. And that's
what I'd like to ask at this moment.
Ms. Stephan: I think at the beginning of the process when we met initially with Mr. Benitah and
we saw the plans right before he went to the Historic Board and we gave our feedback, and at
that time we said, "Please, ask for a continuance so we can all take time and sit together and
work out something that we're more comfortable with." And, you know, they didn't want to do
that. They pushed it straight to the Commission. They got turned -- you know, basically sent
back by the HEP Board. We did go to the -- Mr. Kobi Karp's office. We sat with him, and they
said, "What would" -- "can we change without losing any square footage, without basically
changing the lot, the structure, anything?" Like basically, "What frosting can we put on this
cake to make it okay for you?" And we said it needs to be more than frosting. This is not
congruent.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So I'm going to ask you very specifically and not in -- I guess that's
where -- lawyers in court, if you start with the superfluous talk, when the judge ask you a direct
question and you don't give him a direct answer, you lose not only his attention but his support,
if you have it. So --
Ms. Stephan: I'm so --
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- my question to you --
Ms. Stephan: I'm so (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Hardemon: No, I understand. So my question to you is, Is there anything that you
thought of when you came here, Mr. Jerome, that you felt was a compromise that you wanted to
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present today?
Mr. Jerome: Our serious concern from day one, when I met with Mr. Benitah
(UNINTELLIGIBLE), is that the entrance on 45th Street was always a big concern to us. We was
afraid about the precedence it was going to set. As you know, our neighborhood is a very
desirable neighborhood, the whole corridor of Northeast 2ndAvenue. So having an entrance on
40 -- at the 45th Street was my -- was our thing that we didn't want to budge on. I, myself have
told Mr. Benitah, "Listen, I don't like the building. I love the design, but it doesn't fit in Buena
Vista East. But as a resident, I can deal with it. But when you're telling me the parking is on
45th Street, you're laying down the precedent of every single other corner where parking going --
up and down on every single avenue." That is an issue for a residential neighborhood. So am I
okay with the building? As a board, can we support the building? Sure. But the parking issue
has to be addressed and the green space issue has to be addressed. When you have -- when you
don't have 20 percent of green space -- we need some green space. Currently, right now, there's
not 20 percent green space or 10 percent green space in the design. So if we can address the
green space and the parking, we can have a compromise. I'm willing to compromise. This is
about making it work.
Mr. Benitah: Talking about the green space, I think there is a mistake here, because the plans
have been reviewed by the Zoning Department, and the green space requirement has been met by
the -- with the landscape architect, so I don't know why you keep pouncing that, but it's on the
plan.
Chair Gort: Excuse me. You come through the Chair, okay? Thank you. Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: So Mr. Fernandez.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Hardemon: We've heard the major concerns of the community. One is the ingress
and egress of vehicles.
Chair Gort: Forty -Fifth Street.
Vice Chair Hardemon: And I completely understand. Forty -Fifth Street. I mean, I've walked
down 45th Street. I've driven down 45th Street. You can't get two cars to go down 45th Street.
Mr. Fernandez: You're absolutely right. But Commissioner, what I just distributed to you is on
page 3 of this handout, you see a map, and what it shows you is the method of ingress and egress
for other similarly situated buildings on 2nd Avenue, and they all come in through the side street.
That is the predominant mode of access for the neighborhood. To put an entrance on the main
street would be inconsistent with the character of the neighborhood. I agree with you, and we
are all willing to compromise to the extent that we would create a traffic control device that
would ensure that the traffic would go in a certain direction. It isn't our intent to go through the
residential neighborhood, but it isn't our intent to interfere with the pedestrian flow and the great
cafe experience that presently exists on the major avenue that you, yourself, frequent. To be
sitting at a cafe -- imagine sitting at Green Street in the Grove and having, you know, a truck or
a car come right by you. It would be a different --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Fernandez: -- experience altogether.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
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Vice Chair Hardemon: So my next question then would be to Mr. Jerome. The -- would a
bump -out to prevent you from going down the residential street be sufficient in this type of case?
Mr. Jerome: A bump -out would assist with this project, but again, as a neighborhood
association, as a resident -- I've been there for 12 years -- I'm always concerned about
tomorrow. I'm concerned about the precedent that this is going to set here. If there's bump -out
with some type of precedent or some type of limitation on future development, Northeast 2nd
Avenue, as far as traffic coming into the neighborhoods, we can accept it. But again, we -- this
decision -- they did not appeal for this one project. We appealed on the thought process that
there's going to be projects coming down the line in the future, so we're not here for today; we're
here for tomorrow, and so any compromise must take into consideration the future development
that's going on, on Northeast 2nd Avenue.
Chair Gort: Let me ask a question. My understanding is whatever happens in here, they have to
pull a permit, they have to put the plans together, would have to come to you, and they would
have to comply with green space and all the requirements of Miami 21. I think it's important for
people to understand that, okay?
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir. You're recognized.
Commissioner Sarnoff There was a comment made, Mr. Planning Director, that not a square
inch is not in concrete. Is there not a square inch in concrete in this project?
Mr. Garcia: They will come into compliance. I haven't -- I don't have the benefit of having the
plans in front of me at this moment in time, but if they have not come into compliance yet in
terms of what their plans show, they will have to come into compliance by the time the review
process is over, as the Chairman has stated.
Commissioner Sarnoff So I want to know if his statement is correct. There's not a square inch
that is not covered in concrete. Because I would say --
Mr. Garcia: Allow me to review, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- Commissioner Hardemon would say that's a pretty big representation
of fact.
Chair Gort: Let me ask another question. When the final plans comes to you, if they don't have
the requirement -- excuse me; I'd like to have one meeting at a time, please.
Mr. Garcia: I'm sorry, sir.
Chair Gort: If they don't have the requirement set by Miami 21, you would not be able to give
him a permit. And if you don't give him a permit, they're not able to demolish the property. Am I
correct?
Mr. Garcia: That is exactly right, sir. And I'll add something, I think, to address what may have
been a miscommunication. It is true that the underground level of development so the parking
will take up roughly the entire site. That's true. However, if you were to see the site at the
ground level, planters would have to be put in place that will yield then the implementation of
some green space to comply with the applicable zoning requirements as indicated in the plan. So
as I'm looking at the plans now, the plans do show a green strip, so to speak, around the property
that does allow for some green space or some open space. However, again, to be perfectly clear,
underneath that, at the underground level, that will have been paved and improved as a parking
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area.
Chair Gort: Commissioner Sarnoff, you're recognized.
Commissioner Sarnoff So second question, Mr. Garcia, and it's something I've been hearing
with regard to Miami 21. Is there a requirement in Miami 21 that the ingress and egress is
supposed to occur off the non -arterial?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. An intent that is the case, the letter, when one reads it in a more fine grain
manner, imposes that requirement more strictly for ingress. So the ingress movement is the one
that tends to slow down traffic, so ingress is limited to the secondary frontage, whereas egress, or
exiting the site, can happen through the primary frontage, so -- and as Commissioner Hardemon
was speaking on the issue, I was actually thinking about an alternative means of ingress and
egress that would have a one-way circulation pattern with ingress along 45th Street and egress
along 2nd Avenue that may go partway towards satisfying the concerns of the abutting property
owners, the adjacent property owners. I have to caution, however, that in order to accomplish
that, it is likely that the parking count will have to be reduced to some extent, because it tends to
make the parking layout less sufficient.
Commissioner Sarnoff But won't that -- well, I think we're seeing -- I don't know if you or
anybody else has experienced this on the dais, but this arterial non favoring has hit a lot of
projects in my district, and maybe not by the intent that 21 was supposed to really work, and I
realize it's a bunch of words comingled together, and then all of a sudden you have streets and
avenues. The next thing you know, it doesn't work for those two streets and avenues when they
come together. But having said that, that's a different issue for maybe a longer term
conversation between you and I. Just to push people onto 45th Street as an ingress and the
egress being 2nd, haven't we, one in the same, done in the same thing? So where's the --? I'm
trying to figure out what's the advantage to that if, in fact, the ingress right now is 2nd and if the
egress was 45th with a non -turn to the right to go down 45th but back to 2nd, isn't that the better
way of doing it?
Mr. Garcia: The better way to do it in terms of allowing for a more efficient traffic flow --
Commissioner Sarnoff Oh, I -- yeah, I -- well --
Mr. Garcia: Or the better way to do it as pertains to the experience on the site or, last but not
least, is that the better way to do it to enhance pedestrian transit, which is also a prime intent of
Miami 21? So in the end, it's a balance of all of those. And best practices, Commissioner,
recommend that if any indentation onto the site, if any means of ingress or egress are going to be
allowed on the primary frontage, which is likely to be the more heavily transited frontage, then
that be only the egress because that is least intrusive or least disruptive of a traffic pattern.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah, and --
Chair Gort: No, wait a minute. Are you finished?
Commissioner Sarnoff Yeah, I am. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the interruption.
Chair Gort: You're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: No. And I think just -- I guess I'm just trying to explore a little bit of what
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the Commissioner is talking about, because I know Coral Way has a lot of these same issues.
Coral Way -- and you know, Mr. Fernandez represents a lot of business owners on Coral Way.
What happens in Coral Way is when there isn't sufficient parking in these commercial structures,
it spills over into the neighborhoods, and then we get the complaints. And the fact of the matter
is, it's hard to deal with it, because unless you create a residential parking zone, which you may
have, and then it's enforcement, because you need to make sure that's it's enforced. You know,
you have a tremendous amount of spillover and then it's public right-of-way, so then you
technically -- unless you have the residential parking zone, you can't enforce it, and that
sometimes takes time and -- so it's good that you guys already have that in place. You know,
look, it seems to me from what I'm listening, and I've listened to everyone, including you all. It
seems like it -- you guys are not that far apart. It seems to me. I mean, I'm just listening. I think
you guys are coming with the right attitude, with the right spirit of trying to not necessarily block
it, but, you know, trying to make something that works not only for -- because at the end of day,
the success of this project is going to be contingent on the neighborhood embracing it, because
these are going to be the customers for this -- whatever gets built here. So I think it behooves
you as well to want to make sure that it's a project that you're not going to have people standing
in front, you know, with pitchforks or whatever, you know, as you're building it. So I don't know
if it would benefit more time or what you would suggest, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Hardemon: I mean, the thing about it -- and that's why I said, firstly, I appreciate all
the Commissioners for listening, and then try to decide if we can come up with a compromise
now, because -- I mean, I know this area. I frequent the area. I've watched trucks park on the
swale of 2nd Avenue -- adjacent to 2nd Avenue, what would be equivalent to where the incident
occurred but on the east side of the street, and get stuck in the dirt. I mean, I'm watching the
swales of those property [sic] just deteriorate, because people constantly park there, and it's
unsafe, because you have to come out onto 2nd Avenue at a high rate of speed just so that you
can get back onto the road. And then, if you're parking there, crossing that street is something
dangerous in and of itself, because the cars are all there and you don't have a way that you can
plainly be seen by cars, unless you're standing on the roadway. So that's part of the reason why
we've expedited, in our list as a City Commission, 2nd Avenue's development, because we need
those things done. So having parking that is on that property, I think the community would agree
that is a major benefit. I mean, there are so many major benefits that are here, and I don't -- if
this came back -- if we continue this and this came back before this board, we wouldn't look to
have further discussion. We wouldn't -- we would not look for that, because today, I may be
prepared to just give a decision as we are so we won't have to see this item again, and I think will
be a fair compromise if both sides agree to it. But if not, if you want to sit down further just to
ensure that the integrity of your project is the way that you saw it when you sought that American
dream and the community is protected, then we can ask for the continuance so that you can just
discuss it that much further, but know that the continuance is so that I can consider the facts,
more readily consider the facts that are presented here before us today to decide which way or
the other we will move forward.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Fernandez: May I, Mr. Chair --
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: -- just address that point? Commissioner Hardemon and Commissioners, let me
just point out that from a procedural standpoint, which has been the emphasis, by the way, of this
appeal all along, it hasn't really been factual; it's been procedural as has been stepped out.
From a procedural standpoint, there are other levels of appeal that remain when -- in relation to
this project.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Yes.
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Mr. Fernandez: So, in all likelihood, you will see this project again if the neighbors are not
happy or if we're not able to reach a resolution with them. So you're guaranteed that we're going
to be before you again with this project. I would ask you -- the Commission to please take a vote
on this so that we can move forward. We will still have a time to meet with them. We're open to
meeting with them and discussing these solutions, and we're hearing all of your comments loud
and clear. But there are at least two more appeals -- potential appeals that remain, and we don't
want to, you know --
Vice Chair Hardemon: The appeals --
Mr. Fernandez: -- further delays.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- the appeal wouldn't be before this Commission, though. The appeals
will be before a higher authority.
Mr. Fernandez: No. The appeals would be before the Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board and
then back to this Commission. So you will be seeing this project again if we can't reach a
resolution with the neighborhood.
Mr. Min: Mr. Chair, just -- the board is -- you know, full canvass, so everybody has a full
understanding. I believe what Mr. Fernandez is referring to is there is another zoning permit
that is contemplated to be issued, which is appealable to the Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board,
and the Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board decision is appealable to the City Commission.
That's an "if." There is no guarantee that either it's going to be appealed to PZAB or to City
Commission.
Mr. Fernandez: Well, Mr. Min, there's also a tree removal permit that is required for the project.
Mr. Min: You are correct. I apologize.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, may I just interject real quick?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: On the issue of -- I mean, I think we've heard testimony today that the
neighborhood has already spent $3,300 on appealing this matter. I don't think it would be fair to
have them spend another $3,300 to try to appeal on a -- you know, there may be other -- a bit --
other avenues for them to appeal, but it's unfair -- you know, I think it -- they made a pretty
compelling argument that the $3, 300 that they had to pay was excessive, to begin with, so I don't
think we should force them to have to appeal, you know, in another matter and spend another
$3, 000 -- or another $6, 000 so that they can -- so we can resolve it. If we're going to deal with
this issue, we might as well deal with it head on right now. I mean, you know, within the context
of this appeal or --
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Or defer for two weeks --
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Commissioner Carollo: -- and see if they actually --
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Commissioner Suarez: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) defer it.
Commissioner Carollo: -- can come with a comprise and then come back to this Commission --
Commissioner Suarez: Absolutely.
Commissioner Carollo: -- with a compromise. Well, with either "we have a compromise" or
"we don't have a compromise, " but not hear the whole thing again.
Chair Gort: Okay. Yes, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair, to that point, if you really want to see the entire project, then we
need to have the Administration proceed with our associated applications for waivers, because
what's happening is that we're being told that the Administration is not approving the waivers
until we get through this project. And so, if we want to view it all, I'd like to be able to
consolidate whatever potential issues are out there so you can decide on all of them, because it's
not fair to my client either to have to come in and pay for representation.
Chair Gort: I understand that. Let me ask you a question.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: What if the decision here is to say "yes" to them?
Mr. Fernandez: Then, I guess --
Commissioner Sarnoff Is your client -- so Mr. Chair -- is your client will -- 'cause this would be
an interesting proposition, and I don't know where you are in your design program and
diagrams, but is your client willing to go through the necessary steps to bring the entire project
so everybody can see it? Would this appeal still subject to this Commission approval so that we
could actually see the amount of green space, the amount -- every -- so we can see an as -built in
front of us? Is he willing to do that?
Mr. Benitah: Yes. Sure.
Mr. Fernandez: Absolutely. It really is --
Commissioner Sarnoff Petty easy then.
Chair Gort: Yeah. Simple question.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff Mr. Planning Director.
Mr. Garcia: I think they can certainly do that. The caution, though, that I would make -- and I
want to make sure that I don't misunderstand your direction -- is this: That does not supersede
the waiver processes they'd have to go through, which are dictated by the Code, so one does not
supersede the other. They would still have to go through the waiver processes, and they would
still have the right to appeal, those who may be concerned.
Commissioner Sarnoff So what they would be getting to Commissioner Suarez and to
Commissioner Hardemon and me, they would be getting -- we would be looking at an entire
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project. We would then be ceremonially talking about the aspects of the project we may like or
may not like in an advisory opinion, and then we would inevitably either approve or disapprove
the appeal; they would then go back pretty well knowing what this Commission felt with regard
to the waiver process, go through that, and then, theoretically, come back to us.
Mr. Garcia: That's exactly right.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Is the bump -out su icient?
Mr. Jerome: Commissioner Hardemon, again, we're thinking about the bump -out in this context
is not sufficient, if the bump -out is set by itself. If we're talking about the bump -out and we're
talking about the rest of the streets, which there is pending the development -- And again, we
don't want to be back here again for another project. We don't want to spend that $3,300. So my
question -- my comment to the board is -- let's allow us. I'm asking the board give me -- give the
board and Harry 30 minutes. Let's hash this out. I mean, I want to compromise, because I don't
want to see this project fail. But at the same time, I have to protect the integrity of the
community.
Chair Gort: I understand what you're asking. You're asking for the dominant effect not to take
place. That would have to be done by -- the Planning Department would have to come up with a
resolution to us or an ordinance where we can change the existing zoning within that area. So
this is not something that I think we can make the decision today.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: I think we're hearing what you're saying and we understand it, and I think the
Planning Department is hearing what your neighbors are saying, which is happening all through
the City of Miami, 'cause unfortunately, all the commercial corridor that we have, they don't
have parking. So that's -- all of it was onsite parking. We never had off-street parking so.
Vice Chair Hardemon: And --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Mr. Chairman. And one thing that I can say about 2nd Avenue that's
interesting is that when I think about the properties that align 2nd Avenue in that immediate
area, I can't think of any of those properties that allow ingress of vehicles at the frontage of the
avenue. So when I consider that, I mean, that -- this is appropriate. The ingress and egress is
appropriate for 2nd Avenue. However, it is inappropriate where the vehicles are traveling
towards the community, and that's where we differ. Now, with that being said for each property
that comes before this board, we have to consider each one of them individually, right? So
you're right to look further into what could happen in the community, but we have to stay focused
on the facts that are here today, and the facts as they are today is that the property, the way it set
up, it allows for the ingress and egress in its true form that's complementary to the other
properties that are there, except for the fact that -- well, no. This would be a trend setter in the
sense that you can go -- you only have to go back towards 2nd avenue if you come out of this
building. Any of the other buildings, you don't have that ability, so --
Mr. Jerome: But, Commissioner, if I can just add to it. You also understand there's that --
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Chair Gort: Wait a minute.
Mr. Jerome: Sorry.
Chair Gort: You want to ask a question?
Vice Chair Hardemon: Let him ask.
Chair Gort: No, ask him a question. Go ahead.
Mr. Jerome: I just -- you're absolutely correct. I think -- Director Garcia said something earlier,
the fact that maybe there is a compromise for what was considered a clear precedent. When you
have a building 20,000 square feet, which is the largest building, which is twice -- three -times the
size of any other building in the neighborhood, your -- the impact is not just, okay, that -- the
impact is going to be a very big impact. There's never been a building of that size on those
streets. And you are correct; having the exit only, left turn only heading back to Northeast 2nd
Avenue is fine, but how about coming into the building. You have a building with 9,000 square
feet where people are going to be trying to come in on 45th Street. So you are correct; they can
exit off the building, but what's to say that they're not going to enter from 45th Street? And 9,000
square feet is a lot of commercial space.
Commissioner Sarnoff There's no --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- entrance to the building --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Sarnoff -- on 45th.
Mr. Jerome: No. The entry's on 45th Street. The entry is on 45th Street.
Commissioner Suarez: Yes, it is on 45th.
Vice Chair Hardemon: The entrance and the exit, for the record, is on 45th Street. Forty -Fifth
Street -- And I --
Commissioner Suarez: It's a secondary frontage.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right. And the thing about it is that -- and I heard reference to the
decision that we made to block the -- if that's the proper term, and it's probably not. But to not
allow, rather, the daycare center -- the daycare centers, where they were; much different from
this case. I mean, the daycare center was in the middle of that residential block. It would have
brought traffic through to the middle of the block. It was a lot of different factors that were much
different from what we're facing here, which is a property that is on 2nd Avenue the way that we
would expect it. It is next to other commercial buildings the way that we would expect it. It does
provide parking, unlike the other buildings, which is not the way, necessarily, that we would
expect it, especially because of the expense that you would take to build parking underneath. So
that's what complicates this for me. Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes.
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Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I sympathize with you guys, because what you're looking for really
doesn't -- it's really not related to this project, per se. What you're looking for really is a traffic
management solution for your neighborhood, and that has got to be very frustrating for you
guys, because I can tell you in my district, it's extremely frustrating. And all of the different
neighborhoods and homeowners association have been engaged in a month -long and day -long,
week-long discussions with the County. And one of the things I'm going to do in the next
Commission meeting -- and I'd like the Clerk to put it on as a discussion item -- is a traffic
management plan for all the neighborhoods of the City of Miami, because in our discussions
with the County -- and by the way, we've made a lot of progress on a memorandum of
understanding, which I thank the Chair for expressing his support to the Mayor of Dade County
-- is that we have a difference in the way we view traffic on non -arterials in our neighborhoods
versus on our arterials. And the County has to understand that we have a different philosophy of
traffic. We want to be pedestrian friendly. We want to be children friendly, elderly friendly, you
know, biking friendly, et cetera. And what we're seeing is the County putting obstacle after
obstacle after obstacle in our way from trying to make -- to achieve our objective to protect the
neighborhoods and to make them safer, and more walkable, and enjoyable and increase the
quality of life. So what -- I'm seeing that all across my district, and my district runs very much
east/west, and it's very single-family, residentially -intense district. So we have the same exact
issue. So I understand what you're saying. You're saying is, "Look, you know, it might help out
a little bit on this, but we've got two or three" -- you know, we have streets in every direction.
And you're afraid of what the impact is going to be on all of those streets. So you know, again, --
one of the things in our discussion with the County, they said is, "Look, if you can give us a plan,
a citywide plan, maybe we can approve it as a citywide plan." And I said, you know, that's a lot
of work, but, you know, I would be willing to do it. Andl would be willing to meet with your
homeowners association and with others to see if we can create a traffic control device plan for
the City that we can present to the County as one plan and get an approval, because what
happens is, you know, neighborhoods like Coral Gate is where I live. It's a neighborhood that
used to get 1,600 cars a day, based on a traffic study, go through the neighborhood, because
they would cut through 37th Avenue and they would start cutting east and west. Well, the
neighborhood got together, and over 10 years -- took them 10 years to put -- to close the
neighborhood in terms of, like what you're saying, blocking certain accesses, et cetera. Then it
took them another 10, 15, 20 years to permanently close with a wall, you know, that area. So
now it's a very charming neighborhood, people can ride a bike, kids can run around. I mean,
everyone feels, you know, very safe in those neighborhoods. So I think -- first of all, I really
appreciate your spirit of cooperation, and it seems to me that you and the other members of the
homeowners association that I can't see because their blocked, you know, first of all, thank you
for being here so late. But it's clear to me that you guys are all acting in good faith and that you
want a project that will enhance your neighborhood, not detract from your neighborhood, and I
would suspect that that would be what you would want, too.
Mr. Benitah: Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: So I think we should be able to come to a compromise.
Vice Chair Hardemon: Right. IfI may?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Hardemon: In conclusion, we started from this being a noncontributing structure. I
think just starting from the definition of it being noncontributing led to some of the difficulty that
the homeowners associations were having with the control of the design and the destruction -- or
demolition of the building, construction and demolition of the building. As I understand from the
facts that are presented to me, there was compromise that was sought and agreed upon by the
HOA (Homeowners Association), and also the developer and the owner. There was compromise
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-- the compromise reduced the footprint of the building. The compromise took into design
considerations that even the owner said that he was not happy with. He appreciated the first one
better, but because of that compromise, the spirit, this is what we have before us today. I would
also like to make note for the record, what was passed to me by the appellee is that I have
different letters that are from people who live within the community, so for instance, Mr. Terry
Riley living on 168 Northeast 43rd Street, who approve of this -- the design as it is; also the
co -owners of -- the co-owner of Buena Vista Deli, which is a property that similarly abuts this
property; another resident at 56 Northeast 51st Street in support of it; Florian [sic] Jouin,
Sinuhe Vega at 168 Northeast 44th Street; Georges Williams, 4584 Northeast 2ndAvenue; and
some of these are residents and also business owners in that area. And so I read this into the
record because what I find myself in a position of -- another person, Sarkis Anac 171 Northeast
46th Street -- I find myself in a position where I have homeowner association that goes one way
-- or not necessarily goes one way -- that has an opinion about the matter, and then I have other
residents that may not necessarily be a part of the homeowners association or may be --
sometimes they may be -- that see it another way. And so based on all the facts that are
presented to me today, I think that the fair thing in this situation would be to modifit the ruling of
the --
Commissioner Sarnoff HEP Board.
Vice Chair Hardemon: -- HEP Board and to allow for the bump -out, that physical bump -out that
does not allow you to egress into 45th Street towards the residences. And so I move that we
modify, including that restriction, and that's how I would like my --
Chair Gort: There's a motion. Is there a second?
Commissioner Carollo: Second. Discussion.
Chair Gort: Discussion. Go ahead, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman, before we take a vote, I'd like to ask, is it possible that
there is -- because I just didn't see them that far away. Is it possible to table this item -- there's
only one more item -- for 15 minutes? Let them talk and see, you know -- and again, I'm just
trying to seek -- to see the possibility of a compromise. It's been stated before that it didn't seem
like they were that far away. You know, I think you presented an option. I don't know if that
option -- and it doesn't seem like that option is going to satisfy, you know, the residents. So I
wanted to see if there's a possibility that, you know -- and it won't be the first time that we table
an item to reach some type of compromise. We did it in the last Commission meeting. So again,
I'm just trying to act in a spirit of -- to a community and also members of the community coming
together, some that live in actually the same area and have possibly the same goals coming
together and compromise, and I don't think they're too far off. So again, I don't know -- we have
one more item on the agenda. Maybe we could table this, take a few other item, and then bring
this back. And I don't know how you feel about that, Commissioner Hardemon.
Vice Chair Hardemon: It doesn't hurt me one way or the other. I don't mind.
Chair Gort: Let me tell you, I don't think there'll be any compromise that could take place within
10 or 15 minutes. My understanding is, from what we've been told here, this process still has
three different appeals to go through. At the same time, they still have to put the plans together,
bring it to the Planning Department; it has to be approved by the Planning Department; it have
to go through the process of the Planning and Zoning Board, so there's still a lot of procedure.
Now, I think that they receive the -- our discussion here -- we've been discussing this for quite a
bit, so I think you all understand where we're at, at this time. Any further discussion? Being
none, all in favor state it --
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Mr. Min: Mr. Chair. I'm sorry.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Min: IfI can also clam. I believe the Planning Department was recommending some
conditions in Exhibit "A." Does the Vice Chair's motion include those five conditions?
Vice Chair Hardemon: And I just want to make -- I want to review them just quickly. I know I've
looked at them before.
Mr. Garcia: Commissioner, just to clam further Mr. Min's statements. These are conditions
that were actually captioned by the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board in their
issuance of the certificate of compliance. I'm happy to read them into the record, but they've
been discussed in detail throughout the conversation. Would you like me to do that?
Vice Chair Hardemon: And just to be clear, we're talking about Exhibit "A"?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Hardemon: And just to read into the record: No COA will be issued until the
applicant is in compliance with condition 2 of HEP Board that gives a R-2014-022, which states
applicant will secure each structure currently existing on the site and complies with the City
Code regarding vacant properties and will make reasonable effort to improve the appearance of
the site; number two, details of the signage package returned to Preservation officer for staff
review; three, a sample of the proposed aluminum screen will be presented to Preservation Office
staff prior to receiving the final approval; four, all glass shall be clear; five, the details of the
mural at the north will have a historic reference -- will be presented to the presentation --
Preservation officer for review and approval; and a covenant shall be recorded that will prohibit
any commercial billboard as such may ever be defined by the City of Miami. I'll incorporate all
of those into my motion.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you, sir. Please know that in so doing, you are basically attaching the
conditions that the HEP Board recommended by virtue of their approval to the certificate of
appropriateness. And in addition to this, again, to make it all abundantly clear, you are
instructing the applicants to make design modifications to the project that will ensure that the
traffic direction both entering and exiting the property be clearly done so that traffic will flow
from 2nd Avenue directly into the property and that (UNINTELLIGIBLE) down 45th Street and
upon exiting also doing the same thing if traffic will be directed over to 2nd Avenue to the east.
Vice Chair Hardemon: That is correct, but not purely signage; actual improvements onto the
property.
Mr. Garcia: Design improvements, that's correct; physical improvements to accomplish that
intent. Thank you, sir.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. The maker of the motion accept that. The seconder of the motion
is not here. I need another second to accept all the conditions. Hello.
Mr. Garcia: I apologize, sir.
Chair Gort: I need another second to accept all the conditions.
Unidentified Speaker: I had a question on (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah, I second
Chair Gort: Okay, been second Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by
saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
PZ.4 RESOLUTION
12-01180v
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), GRANTING THE APPEAL AND REVERSING THE
DECISION OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD DENYING
THE VARIANCE, AND THEREBY GRANTING A VARIANCE AS LISTED IN
THE MIAMI 21 CODE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, ARTICLE 7, SECTION 7.1.2.7, TO ALLOW A RELAXATION OF THE
TERMS OF THE MIAMI 21 ZONING CODE FOR THE REQUIRED MINIMUM
REAR SETBACK, TO ALLOW A REAR SETBACK OF 3'11" (20'0" REQUIRED,
REQUEST TO WAIVE 16'1 "), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 2970 SOUTHWEST 4TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, WITH
CONDITIONS AS STATED HEREIN.
12-01180v 10-09 Fact Sheet.pdf
12-01180v Appeal Letter.pdf
12-01180v Analysis, Maps & PZAB Reso.pdf
12-01180v Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
12-01180v Legislation (v3).pdf
12-01180v Legislation (v4).pdf
12-01180v Exhibit.pdf
12-01180v-Submittal-Rick Ruiz -Block View, Permit and Pictures.pdf
12-01180v-Submittal-Rick Ruiz -Site and Floor Plan.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 2970 Southwest 4th Street [Commissioner Francis
Suarez - District 4]
APPELLANT(S): Joel Ortiz, Owner
FI NDI NG(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial of the
variance.
PURPOSE: Approval of the variance will legalize the existing addition to a
Single -Family residence and convert it into a Two -Family Residence.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Hardemon
R-1 4-0408
Chair Gort: PZ.4.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning & Zoning): Item PZ 4 is before you as a resolution,
Commissioners. This is a variance appeal for a property at 2970 Southwest 4th Street. The
variance was presented to the Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board. It is a variance request for an
encroachment of 16 feet and 1 inch into the 20-foot setback that applies to the rear setback of
any subject property under the zoning designation of T3-O, which this property is. This is in an
effort to bring into compliance an existing structure that was built without the benefit of permits.
Subsequently, the addition was inspected by the Building Department and deemed not to be in
compliance with applicable codes. It is for that reason that we, the Planning & Zoning
Department, recommended denial to the Planning, Zoning & Appeals Board; and the Planning,
Zoning & Appeals Board also denied the variance effectively. It is before you today on appeal.
I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
Chair Gort: Thank you. I guess we don't have a quorum; we'll have to wait. Let's take five.
Rick Ruiz: We don't have a quorum.
Commissioner Suarez: Oh, that's a problem.
Chair Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: Can we hear the public --?
Later...
Chair Gort: Okay, we have quorum now. Let's go. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ruiz: Mr. Chairman, my name is Rick Ruiz. I'm with Marrero & Associate, Architects and
Planners, and with me this evening is Mr. Joel Ortiz, the owner of the property, and also
neighbors of the community, and as well as his wife and family. So we're here -- they weren't
able to be here at the last meeting, but they were able to be here for this one for sure. In regards
to the application, yes, there was a motion by the Zoning Board. It was a 4-4 motion of approval
and not of denial. And of course, a 4-4 motion, that basically translate to a denial. So because
of that, we're here before you today. Now, you're going to -- we're going to bring you some facts.
We brought you some handouts that you have before you, as well as some added drawings that
we have here regarding the property, but we'd like to basically take you first through the aerial,
which is the first page. In the aerial, you'll see this block as it is. When we first were retained by
Mr. Ortiz, the issue was not only that the property had an illegal construction in the back that he
purchased that way; he didn't construct -- but that it had a second unit, so we had to go and
submit a documentation for -- to change the zoning to the property. We submitted all the
documents. We presented it. It took a while because also, what happened was when we brought
in all our evidence of what was happening within the area as well regarding the multiple duplex
use, the City of Miami Zoning director and his staff went out and checked and saw that that was
the case, so they initiated a citywide type of approval or, better yet, submission for the land use
amendment, and that's what happened in regards to that portion. We went through that process
and it got approved, that now you can have duplex use within that block, because of the
character of the block itself. And to the character of the block itself is what we want to show
you. Basically, when you look at this property, you're going to see just in the aerial alone all the
aligning buildings close to that rear property line. Both on 29th Avenue and 30th Avenue, you
see that both of those buildings have properties that are adjacent to that rear property line, and
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of course, they were permitted at that time. In fact, in the handout, there is a page that shows
you basically the time periods that these properties got permitted back in 1925. So 1925, of
course, Miami 21 didn't exist, the 11000 didn't exist, and none of those. And also, when you look
at the character of the properties surrounding, they're basically legal nonconforming. There's
only two properties that had construction without permits that are in this block; all the other
ones had permits to go forward, which are those to either corner, as well as the one to the east
side of the property. And these properties have these buildings placed as far back as you see. So
when you go back to page 3, you're able to see the far property, right, extend a little bit further
into the property line. And when you go to page 4, you're able to see the different properties that
also -- the one directly to the east of them that is legal nonconforming, as well as when you look
at the other ones further down on the view too. On view west, again, you see the properties
again; how many properties are adjacent or near that property line. When you go to page 5,
you're -- you see two major buildings that, again, were built back 1920s, 1930s, and they were
also placed very close to those property lines, all along that rear property line. So if you look at
his property, basically, it's buffered around. There's no way anybody could see what he has.
That we're asking for this variance that is close to the property line, it's no different than any of
the other neighbors that already have their properties close to the property line, so we're not
asking for something that nobody else already doesn't enjoy. We're also showing you a picture
on page 6 where you see the -- again, a building that most likely was built back in the 1920s also
that is close to the property line as well. So when you look at the overall picture of this property
and then you go to page 9, the character of the property from the outside, you could never see
this construction in the back. Impossible. The only ones that would see it would be this property
or somebody in a helicopter; otherwise, there's no way they're going to see this. That the
property was done without a permit; we agree. That there's things in it that we need to put to
Code; we agree. We've hired a structural engineer, Dennis Solano, as well as Dynatech
Engineering, who goes out and check the structure. We're going to remove the roof and put new
trusses and strap them into the tie beam. We're going to add proper columns to the walls where
they might be deficient. So we're going to put it to Code. There's no way that it won't get a
permit legal through the Florida Building Code for the structure itself. So what we're providing
you is evidence, one, that -- like if you go to page 2, others enjoy what we have -- what they
have. Can we put it to Code? Yes, we can. Can we work with the Department and any other
thing that they might need for us to do? We will. But we think that we have enough evidence to
prove to you that this property could sustain itself and will not harm, will not be a deterrent to
the other properties within this block, and won't be to any other block because nobody will be
able to see it at all.
Chair Gort: Let me ask a question. The Amnesty Program still on?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir, I believe it is. The only reasons the --
Commissioner Suarez: It exceeds.
Mr. Garcia: -- Amnesty Program would not apply is it sets forth limits as to how far you can go
and this particular structure exceeds those.
Chair Gort: Right, I understand that. But the Amnesty Program can give them the opportunity
to go ahead and comply with the existing Code and so on.
Mr. Garcia: With the proviso that they come into Code compliance with the Building Code, yes.
Chair Gort: Right. What's in front of us --
Unidentified Speaker: Right.
Chair Gort: Yes, okay. You are aware of the amnesty --
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Mr. Ruiz: Yes.
Chair Gort: -- program? Okay.
Mr. Ruiz: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. May I, Mr. Chair?
Chair Gort: Sure.
Commissioner Suarez: Just to be clear, it doesn't seem to me they want to travel under the
Amnesty Program, because I think the Amnesty Program would only allow for like 10 percent
deviation, and this, I believe --
Mr. Ruiz: Yes. This exceeds --
Commissioner Suarez: -- far exceeds.
Mr. Ruiz: Far exceeds the 10 percent.
Commissioner Suarez: So I don't want to try to condense this because we -- I want to make sure
we have quorum issue and I don't want -- lose quorum, and I want us to be able to get something
settled So first of all, I want to thank you for coming, you know, and trying to -- and doing the
right thing, at the end of the day. You know, I think it's important that -- I wish all our
homeowners and our builders and our people who invest in the City of Miami were as
responsible as you are and would come and try to fix the problems that we have, because
unfortunately -- and I know all the Commissioners here have walked door to door when they
campaigned and when they're not campaigning, and so we see these kinds of unpermitted
buildings. We see these kinds of things which have, unfortunately, an impact on the surrounding
areas, so I commended you for coming. I don't know -- I would like to know if there's any -- just
to condense things, is there any residents here that are in favor of this application? If they are,
they can just -- okay. Just raise your hands. And the record will reflect that there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
Chair Gort: Is anyone against it? No.
Commissioner Suarez: Is there anyone against it?
Chair Gort: No. Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Is there anyone --? Do me a favor. If you have an opportunity, please
fill out paperwork with the Clerk so that we can document that you're in favor; what your
address is and the surrounding area so we have a clear record of anyone who's in favor. Is
anyone against? Going once, going twice, okay. So I think the issue here for us -- the only thing
for us left to decide is what's the responsible thing to do in terms of, you know -- we appreciate
the fact that you want to legalize this, and we appreciate the fact that you obviously want to do it
to Code. I think our Planning director and maybe our Building director -- I don't see him here --
may have a concern with the setbacks. Just because of the precedential value, we don't want to
-- even though we appreciate the fact, again, that you're coming here and that you're coming
here in good faith to do the right thing -- for example, just looking at that setback right there
from that corridor, I mean, that's -- that looks dangerous to me, you know, not the mention the
fact that -- you know, I don't know how it impacts the neighbor. It may or may not in that
particular case. But I think they are a little bit worried about that. So I don't know if you want
to talk to that or I don't know if you have any --
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Mr. Ruiz: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: -- thing to add on that, Mr. Ruiz. Go ahead, I'll let you --
Mr. Ruiz: Anything that has to do with, let's say, the fire portion code of the Code, this wall will
meet the Code. Let's say if for any reason we need to put a two-hour fire -rated wall different to a
one -hour fire -rated wall, we will make this wall like that. We will keep the water within the
property. In fact, we're putting in a new roof.
Commissioner Suarez: What about setbacks?
Mr. Ruiz: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Suarez: What about setbacks? Because I think that's one of the concerns.
Mr. Ruiz: Right. Well, the setback issue would be that --
Unidentified Speaker: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
Mr. Ruiz: Yeah. No, but what we're proposing that that setback wall that we're going to be able
to fireproof it completely, structurally make it sound and it wouldn't be a danger to anyone.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. They're making the contention, Mr. Director, that the setback as
they propose it is in conformity with other surrounding properties. Is that -- do you consider that
to be an accurate statement? Do you think it's a little bit more aggressive? Or, you know, what
would you recommend? I just want to try to condense it, 'cause I have -- you know, I have my
colleagues who have been patient.
Mr. Ruiz: Page 2.
Mr. Garcia: And so a quick overview of the materials they've presented and, perhaps more
convincingly, an overview of an aerial photograph that encompasses the entire block does seem
to show that the fabric of the area is such that this (UNINTELLIGIBLE) are often encroached
upon.
Commissioner Suarez: I have to say "A" and `B"seem to be encroaching; C'ilefinitely is
encroaching. Now, I don't know if these -- any of these are legal, by the way.
Mr. Garcia: We do not know either, sir.
Mr. Ruiz: Two of them --
Commissioner Suarez: D'definitely is encroaching.
Mr. Ruiz: Two of them are not; "A," "C" and "D" are legal.
Commissioner Suarez: "A," "C" and "D" are legal?
Mr. Ruiz: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. Right. So I just -- my issue is this: You know, we're trying to do
the responsible thing. We thank you for -- you doing the responsible thing on your end. We just
want to make sure -- as a city, we have to protect not only -- we actually sometimes have to
protect you from yourself, not that you wouldn't otherwise do that, but you know, we have a
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responsibility in our Building Code, as you know, Mr. Ruiz -- you're a very responsible and very
well -recognized architect and, you know, we want to make sure that whatever we do is something
that is going to protect the safety of the residents of this home as well as the neighbors. So, you
know, I'm looking for guidance here because I want to make a motion and I want to be able to
adjourn the meeting and everyone go home happy, hopefully.
Mr. Garcia: Sir, again to (UNINTELLIGIBLE) I think what you've laid out so far. The intent
clearly is to bring the property into compliance, and the first step toward that is to seek this
variance which would allow them a relaxation of the terms otherwise applicable, which then
allows them to start thinking about what modifications need to be made to the structure to bring
it into compliance. I have two concerns I want to share with the Commission. Concern number
one is that if they were to look at the structure to try to bring it further into compliance through
the process, they may indeed and find that some Code requirements apply that force them, in the
first place, to scale the property back somewhat. They may or may not. I'm not in a position to
make that determination, but they may. And the second concern, which ties into the first one, is
that even if they were to be granted today a variance -- even if they were to be granted a
variance for the rear setback, there's still other Code issues that apply, such as lot coverage,
such as green space, which they would not have a variance of. I say that because if the intent --
and certainly the intent is to assist them to come into compliance -- even granting them the
variance today may be an imperfect vehicle to accomplish that intent. What I would like to
suggest, and for your consideration, is that if you were to approve the variance today, that you
ask the applicants to work with us to establish a compliance plan for the property. It is
understood that that compliance plan may very well require that they come for additional
variances for other terms as applicable, and there should also be ideally some sort of an implicit
or explicit statement preferably that says that to the extent that they can scale back the property
reasonably to produce some sort of a backyard, that that is also desirable and they would be
willing to work with us on that.
Commissioner Suarez: Does that work for you guys?
Mr. Ruiz: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. So moved.
Chair Gort: There's a motion. Is there a second?
Commissioner Carollo: Second with the amendments.
Chair Gort: Seconder accepting the amendment. Any further discussion? Being none --
Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Sorry. I'm -- Chair, real quick. I believe we do have one person
from the public that would like to speak.
Chair Gort: Are they against it?
Mr. Hannon: But first and foremost, before we move any further, the motion is to grant --
Commissioner Suarez: The motion is to grant the variance with a comprehensive plan, in
combination with the Planning director a compliance plan, so that the property comes into
compliance with the Code because -- this is not just about them doing one thing. They want to
have -- they want to get going. They want to build the property. They want to get beyond this.
And what he's saying is that this will make it a more efficient process so they can potentially
come back to us with a unified thing and we can move on.
Mr. Ruiz: Or not.
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Commissioner Suarez: Or not come back, if it's not necessary.
Mr. Ruiz: Right.
Commissioner Suarez: Of course. Sounds good. And I'll let you -- go ahead.
Chair Gort: Is he going to speak against it?
Unidentified Speaker: No.
Chair Gort: Is he going to speak against it?
Commissioner Suarez: No, it's not necessary.
Chair Gort: Okay. Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: But I do want you all -- very quickly after the meeting adjourns, to sign
in and register your support, because I do want that for the record, please.
Chair Gort: Okeydoke. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying Eye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Hannon: As amended.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Ruiz: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Do I have a motion to adjourn?
Commissioner Suarez: Move. Second.
Chair Gort: Have a good one.
END OF PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
CITYWIDE
HONORABLE MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO
END OF CITYWIDE ITEMS
DISTRICT 1
CHAIR WIFREDO (WILLY) GORT
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DISTRICT 2
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COMMISSIONER MARC DAVID SARNOFF
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DISTRICT 3
COMMISSIONER FRANK CAROLLO
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CIVILIAN
INVESTIGATIVE PANEL.
14-00994 E-Mail - Discussion Item.pdf
14-00994 Independent Committee Report.pdf
DEFERRED
Note for the Record: Item D3.1 was deferred to the October 23, 2014 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting.
Chair Gort: Mr. Manager, we have anything; any discussion or pocket item you guys would like
to take it now? That'll be the time now.
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): No, Commissioner, at this time we don't -- Mr. Chairman, we
don't have anything else.
Chair Gort: Commissioners?
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: I have a discussion item regarding the Civilian Investigative Panel. I
was contacted yesterday by Ms. Dawson, and she wanted to know if she and other members of
the committee that we formed should be present. It was also mentioned that the final report had
not been out yet, which I stated, listen, they made the presentation. I think the gist or the meat
and potatoes of what's recommended isn't going to change much, but out of courtesy to all of
them and should they want to be present, I'm probably going to defer this to the next meeting so
they could be present if they want to discuss. And listen, I just don't want that the
recommendations falls [sic] by the wayside. I want to make sure that if it is issues that need to
be taken up with the Charter Review Committee and it does go to there -- to them, and so forth.
So I'm just giving you insight that 1 think there's a good possibility we will be deferring this item,
so -- until the actual report is done.
Commissioner Sarnoff. When is the final report due?
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: I -- it's my understanding they met yesterday and they had a long
discussion, and -- with regards to the report, and if it's not out yet, it's my understanding it will
be out soon.
Chair Gort: Okay.
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Commissioner Carollo: I think --
Nzeribe Ihekwaba (Chief of Operations): Good morning. Zeri Ihekwaba, Assistant City
Manager. The CIP (Civilian Investigative Panel) Independent Review Committee met yesterday
and the final report should be ready and submitted by next week. Actually, they made a request,
a formal request that we communicate to the Commission asking for the deferral of the
discussion item.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, so I'll defer it then to the next Commission meeting once the final
report is out.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Okay.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Come back at 3?
Commissioner Sarnoff Yeah.
Chair Gort: Okeydoke. Thank you.
END OF DISTRICT 3
DISTRICT 4
COMMISSIONER FRANCIS SUAREZ
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SEA LEVEL RISING.
14-00984 MDC Sea Level Report.pdf
DISCUSSED
(D4.1) RESOLUTION
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District4- A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ESTABLISHING THE
Commissioner CITY OF MIAMI SEA LEVEL RISE COMMITTEE, TO STUDY SEA LEVEL RISE
Francis Suarez AND ITS EFFECT ON THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS, INCORPORATING ALL AVAILABLE INFORMATION
ON THE SUBJECT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY; STATING THE COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE, POWERS,
DUTIES, COMPOSITION, APPOINTMENT QUALIFICATIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS FOR MEMBERSHIP; PROVIDING FOR OFFICERS, RULES
OF PROCEDURE, MEETINGS, QUORUM, LEGAL AND STAFF SUPPORT,
ASSIGNMENT OF PERSONNEL, WAIVERS, AND PUBLIC NOTICE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Hardemon
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Todd B. Hannon (City Clerk): Sir, it is 3 o'clock.
Chair Gort: Okay, I need one more Commissioner so we can get going. Okay, we have a
quorum now. Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized for your --
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll try to be as brief as possible, even though I
think this is a very important issue and one that you can't really settle in a discussion item. I just
wanted to bring it to the consciousness of our government, which it really is already at the
consciousness of our government. I mean, I think our Assistant City Manager, our Deputy City
Manager can talk a little bit about some of her efforts. And we have Mayor Lerner from
Pinecrest who's here to give her perspective on this issue. But it's the issue of sea level rise. And
whether you believe in global warming or not, I think it's pretty indisputable at this point that
our sea level is rising steadily on an annual basis, and that we have an obligation as a city -- as
other cities have done; Miami Beach most recently -- to be prepared and to be forward thinking,
and to plan, which sometimes are bad words in government, but we have a responsibility to do
those things. And I think it's interesting that this is a topic that just recently, the Miami Herald --
I think it was actually just a couple days ago -- wrote an article on. I know that today is the King
Tide, and we're wondering how Miami Beach's flood management system is going to manage
that. You know, the Federal Government has set national standards, and, you know, it's just an
opportunity for us to really be ahead of the curve. I think -- I know that our Deputy City
Manager wants to convene a sunshine meeting with the Mayor and I think the Mayor of the
County, ifI'm not mistaken. No; just our Mayor and our City Commissioners? Because the
County just recently issued a report; we also have an action plan that the City issued in June of
2008. And I think -- so I think, like I said, there's a lot of information on this issue. It's a topic
that is very much in the news, it's very relevant, and I think as a city that wants to be considered
on the forefront of issues that could impact it, not only in the present day but in the future, it's
incumbent upon us to tackle this issue head on. And what I would propose is that we set up a
committee, or a task force, or -- doesn't really matter what you call it -- of people that are experts
in this field throughout the County and the United States to help guide us so that we are not --
don't get too far behind and so that we can be a trend -setting government. I think that it's
important for us. We made a lot of changes after Hurricane Andrew regarding windstorm
building codes. We've hardened our structures tremendously, but we have mega projects that are
being built to the tune of billions and billions of dollars over the next five to ten years, and we
would be negligent if we didn't consider this and address this issue now that we have an
opportunity, and it would be in the best interest not only of our residents, as we can see with
what's going on in Miami Beach, but it would also be in the best interest of the development
community that I think wants to make sure -- and the insurance community, and we want to make
sure that insurance is affordable; that we are doing things on the front end to avoid costs on the
back end for our citizens. So I just wanted to briefly recommend and make a resolution or make
a motion that we set up a committee to study sea level rise and its impact on the City of Miami.
You know, the membership of the committee can be modeled after the Charter Committee or
some -- you know, one where every Commissioner and the Mayor have and the Manager have an
ability to name people to that committee so that they can -- everyone can feel like they
participate in it. And, you know, I think that it's a topic that right now, like I said, is -- there's
more and more information coming out on it and it's really incumbent on us to be proactive.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Okay, 'cause -- yes, sir, you're recognized, Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I don't think there's any questions that
sea level rise is an issue that we need to address. As a matter of fact, with CIP (Civilian
Investigative Panel) Task Force that we did or committee that we did, the reason why I have it
today as a discussion item and I'll be bringing it back is because when that committee made
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recommendations, I don't want it to be fallen by the wayside or put in the back burner, and that's
why I keep bringing it up, so we could take those recommendations; see how much of that we
could move forward with it. Recently, Miami -Dade did have this task force, and they made
several recommendations, and I think although, as I mentioned before, I have no issue,
whatsoever, with discussion and being able to debate issues, discuss, I think that we need to not
overlook that Miami -Dade County recently had this task force, and they came up -- I have at
least six of their recommendations; some that, you know, the City already can actually take part
in, 'cause one of their recommendations was for the County to incorporate Everglades
restoration, including restora -- making restorations a top priority for County lobbying efforts. I
think the City should also do that. So there's, I think -- and I'm not saying that we shouldn't
continue and add to it, but at the same time, let's not reinvent the wheel. Let's see what studies
have already been done, what work has already been done so we could add to it as opposed to
starting all over again, and that's the only recommendation that I make, because it truly is an
issue. And I can tell you right now, I'm dealing with it, because, as chairman of Bayfront Park
Management Trust, we're looking at the fountain, and if we do any repairs to it and so forth, and
that's right by the bay, and we're looking and beginning to study how much money to put into the
fountain for repairs or restoration or refurbishment, and taking into account sea level rise. So
we're definitely dealing with it, and I think it's definitely a topic that needs to be discussed and
needs to be acted on, but I don't want to overlook the fact that many have already done many --
you know, a lot of work on it, you know, many professionals, and I want to make sure that, you
know, we add to it as opposed to starting all over again, starting this process all over again and,
realistically, trying to reinvent the wheel.
Chair Gort: Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I think -- you know, when I started studying
this issue, I realized that there is somewhat of a hodgepodge of --
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Commissioner Suarez: -- sources of information, some of it coming from the Federal
Government, some of it coming from newspaper articles, some of it coming from our own
internal action plans, and then, of course, some of it coming from the County. We are unique
and I think a little different, and I think we require a specificity of study simply because we are
the city that has the largest amount of waterfront in the County; maybe Miami Beach may have a
little bit more, yeah, but we're one of the largest cities in the County that has -- in terms of
waterfront. We may even have more than Miami Beach, actually, because when you stretch --
Vice Chair Hardemon: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Suarez: Yes, I consider waterfront decent from beachfront. I'm saying land that
touches the water. So I think if you stretch as north as we go along the water to as south as we
go in District 2, you know, I think you have -- actually, you may have a larger swathe, and it's
not only that; really, what's more important is that we are the epicenter of construction right now
in the County. So all of the construction is happening -- or most of the construction is happening
in the City of Miami. So I think it's incumbent on us to be leaders on this issue, to take what the
County has done in its recommendations, particularly the ones that are very common-sense
recommendations, like the one that you just mentioned, and also incorporate what the Federal
Government has recommended, what we have stated in the past and update it, and it's an
opportunity for us to revisit the issue, and so I make a motion to establish a committee to revisit
sea level rise and its impact, taking into consideration all available information sources.
Chair Gort: There's a motion.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
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Chair Gort: Is there a second? There's a motion by Commissioner Suarez; second by
Commissioner Carollo. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying
"aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Thank you, Mayor, for being here; appreciate it.
D4.2 DISCUSSION ITEM
14-00925
DISCUSSION IN SUPPORT OF GRANTING A SATISFACTION OF
MORTGAGE TO LITTLE HAVANAACTIVITIES & NUTRITION CENTERS OF
DADE COUNTY.
14-00925 E-mail-Discussion Item.pdf
14-00925 Back -Up Letter.pdf
DISCUSSED
Chair Gort: Okay, next, we have 11:30, but I think the parties are here.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. This is a discussion item, D4.2, regarding the satisfaction of
a mortgage from Little Havana Activities and Nutritional Center. It's -- Little Havana Activities
and Nutritional Center is a senior facility that has provided a variety of services to the elderly in
our community, including but not limited to meal services; they have health care services right
next door; they provide games; you know, they give us an opportunity to interact with our
residents. It's an establishment that has been impeccably run for several decades, and they are
coming towards the end of a 30-year note and mortgage that was given through Community
Development in 1985 -- '86, I'm sorry; May 2, 1986. And they are doing a tax credit financing
where they are going to expand their operations tremendously. And I have put for discussion
and for a resolution at the next City Commission meeting the release and cancellation of the
mortgage, the satisfaction of the mortgage, because in my opinion, they have satisfied all the
conditions and are going to continue to operate in that fashion. They are doing a $15 million
expansion, a tax credit project which would obviously dwarf the $300,000 that we gave them,
you know, close to 30 years ago. You know, we have supported this entity throughout the years.
We continue to support this entity because of its mission and its objective and its goals, and it's a
well -run organization. It has residents from District 3, residents from District 4 and from other
districts of the City of Miami, and, you know, I think this is the right and appropriate thing for us
to do. So I just wanted to put it on for discussion. We'll have it on as a resolution at the next
Commission meeting, and hopefully, I'll have the support of my colleagues, because I think that
this is something that we should do, and it's an organization that we should continue to support,
like we have throughout the years. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Okay. Yes, Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I don't think anybody questions
the work that Little Havana Activities Center does. As a matter of fact, I know it started in Little
Havana, but it's expanded to various parts of the City and the County, so I don't think anybody
ever questions the work that they do -- the great work that they do and all the people that they
service. I actually spoke to Mr. Dorrbecker quite a few months back, and he mentioned the
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issue, and I said that I would follow up with it, and this is something that I have mentioned time
and time again. I -- when I heard that it was possibly a CDBG (Community Development Block
Grant) issue, my office reached out to Mr. Mensah to see what documents there was, because we
weren't really sure what type of loan it was; if there's any requirements. And I'm not saying
anything that I didn't tell Mr. Dorrbecker at the time. I can tell you, I haven't received any
information. And I spoke to the Manager -- I believe it was Tuesday, and I see Mr. Casamayor
saying it, nodding his head "yes." I received loan documents or some type of note at 6:30 last
night.
Daniel J. Alfonso (City Manager): Right. Commissioner, we met yesterday afternoon, I believe,
and --
Commissioner Carollo: No, we met Tuesday afternoon.
Mr. Alfonso: Tuesday afternoon; I'm sorry. And you asked for the document. We searched for
them and we sent them to you --
Commissioner Carollo: Understood. But prior to that, my office has continuously been reaching
out to Community Development to see if there's any type of documents, because the truth of the
matter is how -- you know, any type of loan, what is the loan? You know, how could we actually
forgive a loan that I'm not sure what type of loan it is, if there's any requirements? 'Cause CDBG
is HUD (Housing & Urban Development); it's not necessarily the City of Miami. So what I can
tell you is this: I received the information 6:30 last night for today's meeting. You know,
unfortunately, you know, I haven't had the time to read this. Now, that doesn't mean that I won't
be supportive. That won't -- that doesn't mean that, you know, they haven't established -- and
maybe they've met all the requirements; I'm not sure. What I'm saying is I received this
information 6:30 via e-mail (electronic) last night for today's meeting, and the good thing is that
it's a discussion item. And as a matter of fact, when I saw it as a discussion in the last
Commission meeting, I wondered, "Huh. Okay, I haven't received any information, " so I'm sure
we'll have a discussion about it. But I think as a fiduciary duty that I have to the City, I need to
see exactly what type of loan is it. Is it a Federal? What type of requirements? Is it -- and as a
matter of fact, I'm seeing two separate documents: a promissory note and some type of a
resolution that starts off saying "$300, 000 of Community Development Block Grants." I would
think that has certain requirements. I don't know if they've met the requirements, but as of right
now, I welcome the discussion. I would like to ask what type of loan it is, since I haven't had a
chance to read it, and I look forward then in a couple of weeks, or whenever the resolution will
actually come forward, to be able to then, you know, further discussion and vote on it, but I've
said many, many times, we depend on the Administration in order to give us the information for
us to make prudent decisions. And I -- obviously, if I haven't even read the documents, there's no
way that I can make a prudent decision, because I don't even know what is asked of us, other
than forgive a loan. What type of loan? What are the requirements? Who is the loan from? You
know, these are questions that need to be answered. And by the way, this has nothing to do with
Little Havana Activities Center. Like I started saying, this does not question, whatsoever, the
work that you do, because it's obvious, the work that you have done, and like I said, not just in
District 3, Little Havana, but throughout the City and the County.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you. You're recognized, Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. Couple things. One is I did put this on as a discussion item
at the last Commission meeting precisely so that no one would feel that there was any sort of
surprise element or anything like that. I think I asked their attorney specifically for the note and
mortgage, and I got it right away. The mortgage is a public document; it's recorded in the public
record, so it's very easy to get in terms of -- and not just because I'm a real estate attorney so I
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understand how easy it is to pull a mortgage. You can get it on your computer. I can get it from
my phone actually. So, you know, that's why I put it on as a discussion item. I bumped it
because we had some discussion with Community Development, and they said they had to notice
the resolution, so we decided not to take it up at last Commission meeting, and last Commission
meeting, you know, we were tired; I think we ended at 1 o'clock in the morning. So we decided
you know, this is going to be a lighter agenda; let's take it up as a discussion item here; discuss it
if there's any issues and then we can vote on it in the next one, and I informed them that that was
kind of the plan of action. So we got the documents right away, as soon as we asked for them; I
think within the same day, and they're very, very short documents; they're not particularly
complicated at least for me. I know I'm a real estate lawyer and, you know, for me, I'm
accustomed maybe not to this specific kind of transaction, because this is government -related,
but I'm very much accustomed to reading note and mortgages. I do it every single day for my
clients, so many of them are standardized, so they have very few wrinkles. This particular note
and mortgage is not a particularly voluminous note and mortgage, so I think it's good public
policy, and I really hope that my colleagues support my effort at the next Commission meeting.
Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir, you're recognized, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Alfonso: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to, in general, ask the Commission
that when we ask for documents and information, that we address the Manager's Office, because
if we're going directly to a department and we're not getting the information, I would like to have
the opportunity to respond to those requests.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. It should be through the Manager's to the department. First of all,
listen, let me tell you, I think the Little Havana -- I don't know. I have to think about it. But they
were the first "comedores" that were established in the City of Miami. I was one of the founding
members. When you walked in there, you'll see a picture of a young man, because I was, I think,
18 or 19 at that time, but it's a great service. They began on 12th Avenue and 8th Street, and
they expanded all over Miami -Dade County because of the work they done. If you recall, the
County started the -- and HUD started cutting the funds for these type of services, and what they
did, they eliminated some of the people that were not performing. They were
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) and Little Havana was given all the other comedores throughout the
Miami -Dade County. So I'm all in favor of it. The document, when it comes back, I hope we can
take care, because they need to get this expedited as to continue to construct additional services.
Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman, thank you. I have a question for Madam City Attorney.
Madam City Attorney, I made the same question on the dais of the previous City Attorney, and I
want to ask you: Is there any issue with asking a department head, inquiring about
documentations regarding something that may come up on City Commission meeting? In other
words, inquiring about any type of lease or what type of lease is involved with regards to an item
that obviously someone has an issue with or someone would like for the City Commission to take
up so we could be inquired as to what type of loan? Do you see any problem with requesting
that information?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): No, Commissioner. You're able to ask questions and get
information. You're -- the Charter -- what the Charter prohibits is direction, directing a course
of action, or what have you. But you can always make, you know, inquiries and questions of
documents you need.
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Commissioner Carollo: So any inquiry regarding "What type of loan; do you know anything
about it?" they've come to me, they've asked, you know, if the City Commission would consider
it, but I don't know, realistically, what type of loan it is, do you see any problem with me asking
that?
Ms. Mendez: No, Commissioner, you can ask those questions.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. And Mr. Dorrbecker, if you remember, at the time that we
met, those were my same questions. I actually asked you, "Do you know what type of loan it is?
Do you know, you know, what documentation there is?" And I said, "I will inquire from the
City." So that's -- yeah, please.
Ramon Perez-Dorrbecker: Good morning, Commissioner Carollo. My name is Ramon
Perez-Dorrbecker. I'm the president and CEO (Chief Executive Officer) of Little Havana
Activities Center. In order to appease your concerns and your worries, I brought with me my --
our corporate attorney, which is Nanette O'Donnell, and I -- if you allow us, I think that she can
clam all those worries that you have and help you go ahead and proceed with our request. Can
I -- can she address the Commission?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir. Go ahead.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Nanette O'Donnell: Good morning. My name is Nanette O'Donnell. As Mr. Dorrbecker said, I
am corporate counsel for Little Havana. I reviewed the documentation that is at issue here, and
my recollection is that the mortgage is a relatively standard mortgage that doesn't have a whole
lot in it in terms of obligations. The obligations arise out of the promissory note, and in the
promissory note, there were two items that Little Havana had to abide by. One was a 1986 meals
agreement, which generally has a term of either one year or two years. So obviously, we
complied with the terms of the 1986 meals agreement. The second requirement was that they
continue to serve the elderly meals at those locations. Well, obviously, we've continued to serve
meals at those locations, and we now serve meals, I believe, at either 15 or 16 locations. So
those were the two items that the note required to be met. The note did not require any payments
to be made at any time. The note did not provide for any interest to be paid at any time; only
upon a default. And that's essentially the entire deal.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: And thank you. And I just want to make sure that everybody does
understand the note that you are mentioning is the one that I received at 6:30 in an e-mail that I
still haven't had a chance to even --
Ms. O'Donnell: Understood.
Commissioner Carollo: -- read it.
Ms. O'Donnell: Understood.
Chair Gort: (UNINTELLIGIBLE), got it.
Commissioner Carollo: And that's why, you know, my questioning, because -- you know, so --
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Ms. O'Donnell: No problem, whatsoever; understood.
Commissioner Carollo: And it's not -- and in all fairness, this is a discussion item, so it's not like
we're voting on it today.
Ms. O'Donnell: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm sure by the time that it comes to a vote, I'll have plenty of time to
read it, but I just want to make sure that, you know, we put all the facts, lay it out.
Ms. O'Donnell: Of course, of course.
Commissioner Carollo: Because even though I may be supportive, doesn't necessarily mean that
the process is correct, and I'm not going to do something that is not, you know, with the best
intentions to, you know, service my fiduciary duties to the City.
Ms. O'Donnell: Understand.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. Ma'am, I just want to ask you one more question for the
record. Thank you. I just wanted to -- I know the answer to the question, but I want you to state
it for the record, which is: Upon receiving this financing, this new financing, you will continue
to provide services, right?
Ms. O'Donnell: Absolutely. The new market tax credit loans are conditioned on our continuing
to provide not only the meals, but a variety of other services that we normally provide, and there
is a minimum time frame of seven years after that.
Commissioner Suarez: And that's why I think it's important, because that shows that you're
substituting an obligation for another that extends beyond what would have been the life of this
Ms. O'Donnell: Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: -- obligation.
Ms. O'Donnell: Correct. And when Mr. Ramon Perez-Dorrbecker wrote a letter to Mr. Mensah,
I think sometime in August, in that letter, we specifically pointed out that the new market tax
credit allocation would require the company to continue its mission, which I'm sure we'll
continue even beyond the seven years.
Commissioner Suarez: Sure. I think you will.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Ms. Mendez: Chairman, Chairman, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Mendez: If there is any concerns, the other thing that we can -- if it's the will of this
Commission, it could be a release of the mortgage, but then a covenant can be in -- placed in its
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place to continue providing --
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Services.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir, you're recognized.
Mr. Perez-Dorrbecker: I just wanted to add something else to what has been said here, and it's
the fact that back almost 30 years ago, that property that is on Southwest 8th Street and 7th
Avenue was purchased not only with $300, 000 from the City of Miami, but it was also from the
State of Florida that -- which provided $450,000, okay. Those $450,000 were forgiven, okay?
We don't owe anything. It was given to us, and it was forgiven by the State. So the State --
normally, when you -- when they give you some money for a particular project, they state that
that money will be granted and you can use it as long as you provide the services that you said
originally you were going to do for so many years. If, after a certain period of time, like 15
years, which is the norm, you keep on providing those services, they forgive the loan; they
forgive the loan. I know that you have all -- all you Commissioners have really, really, really
supported this organization throughout the years, and I'm really appreciative of that; so are the
customers that we serve and our board of directors. So I beg you and ask you, please, forgive
this loan; it's been 30 years; we've done our job. The building we're going to build there is going
to enhance Southwest 8th Street; it's going to be a gorgeous building; it's going to be a
40, 000-square feet building and it's -- the participants are going to be extremely comfortable
and so are you when you go visit us. So appreciate your support. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. George, you want to speak?
George Mensah: Good morning, Commissioners. George Mensah, director of Community
Development. From August, we been having discussion with the Little Havana Activities Center,
and the -- one of the issues that, you know, we talked about -- and I had drafted a memo to be
given to all Commissioners, which included the notes and maybe -- probably about three weeks
ago, 'cause when I saw it on the agenda, one of the first things that I directed the District 4's
attention was that these CDBG funds, and therefore, we cannot just make action; we have to
publicly notice it. So we did publicly notice it, and the notice basically says satisfaction of the
mortgage to -- of this particular mortgage. Now, one of the issues that we have is that unlike
general funds where we can easily come here and just make decisions, with CDBG funds, we are
audited annually by Federal Government, and so one of the things that they typically say is that
they typically -- when they do the audit and they provide the finding, they typically say that the
City did not obey their own regulations or their own policies and those things. In the past, for
whatever reason, the City decided that they would provide a mortgage, which, basically, is in
perpetuity, that says that just provide this quoted amount. We don't do that anymore. Typically,
we provide 30 years, 20 years, or something. So what we've said is that you -- we will satisfy this
mortgage; we just have to have a reason. Their mortgage being in place for 30 years is
definitely not a reason for us to say that we're going to release it, because there is no money
involved in it; it doesn't make -- you know, make any difference to them. Now, one of the good
reasons is -- this is what they told us -- which means that --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Mensah: -- we are going to have a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) investment of $15 million
(UNINTELLIGIBLE), which is a perfectly good reason, and for that reason, we need to have this
property --
Chair Gort: Documented.
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Mr. Mensah: -- free and clear, and so we are prepared to come back in October and finish this
up. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: It's not a fairly good reason; it's an extremely good reason. You're
getting a lot of leverage on your money.
Chair Gort: Thank you. By the way, Commissioners, I understand we have the right to request
in writing from any department any information we want. I think what the Management is asking
for, to be copy; for the reason is if the department does not comply with our request, we going to
ask him why, and if he doesn't have notice of that, he won't be able to answer. So I think he's --
the Manager's asking that as a courtesy to him. Thank you. We all for it; we just got to do the
paperwork; then you're going to get it. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: There's only a couple of items left, some PZ (Planning & Zoning) items
that are going to be after 2.
Chair Gort: Right.
Commissioner Suarez: And then two discussion items. My discussion item -- my other one,
which is discussion of sea level rise, if I could, I would prefer to have it after lunch, if possible,
because --
Chair Gort: No problem.
Commissioner Suarez: -- maybe some people corning to talk on that item.
Chair Gort: Okay.
END OF DISTRICT 4
DISTRICT 5
VICE CHAIR KEON HARDEMON
END OF DISTRICT 5
NON AGENDA ITEM(S)
DISCUSSION ITEM
CITY ATTORNEY MENDEZ MADE A BRIEF STATEMENTAS REQUIRED BY
FLORIDA STATUTES THAT AN ANNOUNCEMENT BE MADE ATA
COMMISSION MEETING PRECEDING THE MEETING WHERE THE
COMMISSION WILL OR MAY CONSIDER THE DESIGNATION OF
BROWNFIELDS; AND AT THE OCTOBER 23, 2014 COMMISSION MEETING,
THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING
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ARMBRISTER PARK LOCATED AT 4000 GRAND AVENUE AND COCONUT
GROVE FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER LOCATEDAT3900 THOMAS
AVENUE AS BROWNFIELD SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
Barnaby Min (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Min: I believe the City Attorney earlier had read a notice concerning an item that's coming
in October 23 concerning some brownsfield designations. We have some updated addresses, so I
need to read an amended notification, if that's acceptable? At the October 23, 2014 City
Commission meeting, the Commission will consider a resolution designatingArmbrister Park at
4000 Grand Avenue and the fire training facility at 3900 Thomas Avenue for the purpose of
environmental rehabilitation, pursuant to Florida Statute Section 276.80. That's it. Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair -- Mr. Planning Director.
Chair Gort: Second reading.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, just a quick question. Would it be possible -- is it possible,
without a quorum, to hear the presentations and the public --? It's not? No? Okay. Just
wondering. Because it's -- we're not taking any action, and so I'm just wondering.
Mr. Min: There needs to be --
Commissioner Suarez: Got it. Understood. Okay, sorry. I'll be here. Not going to the gym yet.
Want to.
Later...
Chair Gort: We have anything else?
Victoria Mendez (City Attorney): I need to read something, Chairman.
Chair Gort: Sure.
Ms. Mendez: IfI may? At the October 23, 2014 City Commission meeting, the Commission will
consider a resolution designatingArmbrister Park at 236 Grand Avenue and the Fire Training
Facility at 3425 Jefferson Street for the purpose of environmental rehabilitation, pursuant to
Florida Statute Section 276.80. Thank you.
Chair Gort: What was that again? I'm sorry.
Ms. Mendez: I just have to read that for the record. It's an item that's going to be coming on
October 23 for your consideration at that time, but I just have to read for the record this little
statement.
Chair Gort: Read it again a little slower.
Ms. Mendez: Oh, okay, sorry. At the October 23, 2014 City Commission meeting, the
Commission will consider a resolution designatingArmbrister Park at 236 Grand Avenue and
the Fire Training Facility at 3425 Jefferson Street for the purpose of environmental
rehabilitation, pursuant to Florida Statute Section 276.80. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
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The meeting adjourned at 6:12 p.m
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