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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, April 12, 2012
9:00 AM
REGULAR
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Francis Suarez, Chairman
Marc David Sarnoff, Vice -Chairman
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner District One
Frank Carollo, Commissioner District Three
Michelle Spence -Jones, Commissioner District Five
Johnny Martinez, City Manager
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes April 12, 2012
CONTENTS
PR - PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
AM -APPROVING MINUTES
MV - MAYORAL VETOES
CA - CONSENT AGENDA
PH - PUBLIC HEARINGS
SR - SECOND READING ORDINANCES
FR - FIRST READING ORDINANCES
RE - RESOLUTIONS
BC - BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
DI - DISCUSSION ITEMS
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
M - MAYOR'S ITEMS
D1 - DISTRICT 1 ITEMS
D2 - DISTRICT 2 ITEMS
D3 - DISTRICT 3 ITEMS
D4 - DISTRICT 4 ITEMS
D5 - DISTRICT 5 ITEMS
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9:00 A.M. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Commissioner Gort, Vice Chair Sarnoff, Commissioner Carollo, Chair Suarez and
Commissioner Spence -Jones
On the 12th day of April 2012, the City Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular
session. The Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Suarez at 9:00 a.m., recessed at
9: 01 a.m, reconvened at 9: 05 p.m., recessed at 11:23 a.m, reconvened at 2: 00 p.m, recessed at
6:11 p.m, reconvened at 6:25 p.m.and adjourned at 7:54 p.m.
Note for the Record: Commissioner Gort entered the Commission Chambers at 9: 01 a.m. during
the recess, Vice Chair Sarnoff entered the Commission chambers at 9: 05 a. m, Commissioner
Spence -Jones entered the Commission chambers at 9:10 a.m, and Commissioner Carollo entered
the Commission chambers at 9:11 a.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Johnny Martinez, P.E., City Manager
Priscilla A. Thompson, CMC, City Clerk
Chair Suarez: Welcome to the April 12, 2012 meeting of the City ofMiami Commission in these
historic chambers. The members of the City Commission are Marc David Sarnoff, Vice Chair,
Frank Carollo, W fredo Willy'Gort, Michelle Spence -Jones, and myself Francis Suarez, the
Chairman. Also on the dais are Johnny Martinez, the City Manager, Julie O. Bru, the City
Attorney, and Priscilla A. Thompson, the City Clerk. I will, I guess, suspend until we have a
quorum here, but I'd like to recognize the Mayor, who's here, and we will wait till our other
colleagues are here to get started. Thank you.
Later...
Chair Suarez: (INAUDIBLE) myself and the pledge of allegiance by Commissioner Wfredo
Gort.
Mariano Cruz: (Comments in Spanish not translated).
Chair Suarez: No, no, I started on time. Have a seat. Have a seat, guys.
Invocation and pledge of allegiance delivered.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
PR.1
12-00372
PRESENTATION
Honoree Presenter Protocol Item
Water Conservation Mayor Regalado Proclamation
Month - SFWMD
Florida College Access Chairman Suarez Commendation
Network
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PRESENTED
1) In honor of Water Conservation Month, Mayor Regalado recognized the South Florida Water
Management District for their dedication to educating the community on preserving our water
resources.
Presentations and proclamations delivered.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. That ends the presentations and proclamations.
APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE FOLLOWING MEETING:
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, to APPROVE
PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
MAYORAL VETOES
Chair Suarez: We will now proceed with approval of the minutes from the regular meeting of
March 8, 2012. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sec --
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Vice Chair Sarnoff, second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Any
discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Passes unanimously.
END OF APPROVING MINUTES
NO MAYORAL VETOES
Chair Suarez: Madam Clerk, are there any mayoral vetoes to report at this time?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No, sir, there are none.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
ORDER OF THE DAY
Chair Suarez: We will now begin the regular meeting. The City Attorney will state the
procedures to be followed during this meeting.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Good morning Mr. Chair, members of the Commission, Mr.
Manager, members of the public, and Madam City Clerk. Any person who's a lobbyist must
register with the City Clerk before appearing before the City Commission, and a copy of the code
section about lobbyists is available in the City Clerk's office. The material for each item on the
agenda is available during business hours and -- at the City Clerk's office and online at
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ww.miamigov.com [sic]. Anyone wishing to appeal any decision made by the City Commission
for any matter considered at this meeting may need a verbatim record of the item. Please, no cell
phones or other noise -making devices. Silence those now. Any person making offensive remarks
or who becomes unruly in the Commission chambers will be barred from further attending the
meetings. Any person with a disability that requires auxiliary aids, please contact the City Clerk.
And the lunch recess will begin at the conclusion of deliberations on the agenda item that is
being heard at noon, unless the Chair indicates otherwise.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Madam Attorney.
Later...
Chair Suarez: CA.7.
Commissioner Carollo: Chairman Sarnoff, I believe that the management wants to continue or
defer some items.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay. So you want to do that before we pass the CAs (Consent Agenda),
remaining CAs?
Mr. Martinez: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Martinez: FR.1, withdraw; FR. 2, defer to April 26; RE.18, defer to April 26; RE.19, defer to
April 26.
Chair Suarez: Madam Clerk, do you have all of those?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Yes. According to what I heard, FR.1 is withdrawn, FR. 2 is
deferred to April 26, RE.18 and RE.19 are both deferred to April 26.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Is there a notion?
Commissioner Carollo: Moved -- move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by the Vice Chair. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
[Later...]
Chair Suarez: Can we do some boards with --? No. You want to do SR.2? All right, let's --
well, we don't have a full Commission. I don't want to get -- the word in Spanish is reganao. I
don't want to get --
Vice Chair Sarnoff What is it?
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Chair Suarez: -- punished.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. What is it?
Chair Suarez: Reganao.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Re --
Chair Suarez: Reganao. I don't want to get punished --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Reganao.
Chair Suarez: -- for doing something inappropriate so --
Unidentified Speaker: To be scolded.
Chair Suarez: Scolded, yeah, that's a better translation actually. Is there boards that we can do
that the Commissioners who are here present can bang out? We can eliminate some where
people that may not have -- that are not here may not have board appointments today?
Unidentified Speaker: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Ms. Thompson: If --
Chair Suarez: I thought Todd was handling this today.
Commissioner Gort: I want to do a nomination for Civil Service.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Thompson: If you want, of course we can do that, okay.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: All right. So then there will be boards that we will not be able to entertain
because we need a four fifth or a five five for some individuals who are re -- who may be
reappointed, who may have term waivers, okay. So having said that, if it is the Chair and
Commission's wish that we proceed with our BC (Boards and Committees) items --
Chair Suarez: It is.
Ms. Thompson: With your permission, I would ask that you allow our assistant City Clerk, Todd
Chair Suarez: You know what, I'm going to say no. Guess what? I'm going to say no.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: And then there's two discussion items before -- there is Commissioner Carollo's
discussion item on the auditing financial statements and then there's the Charter amendment on
the elections, so let's go to Commissioner Carollo first. We'll do -- what's up? What do you want
to do?
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Commissioner Carollo (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: He doesn't mind.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, we'll do them before or afterward. What do you want to do first?
Commissioner Carollo: Do you want to do --?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, I would like to go ahead and get these two issues that I know
the City --
Chair Suarez: Oh, okay. Let's go.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- has been waiting for --
Chair Suarez: Let's do it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- so I can get them out of the way.
Chair Suarez: Let's do it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Town Park issues. And they've been here all day waiting.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, let's do it, let's do it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So I want to make sure we get that out of the way.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CA.1 RESOLUTION
12-00258
Department of Police A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI-DADE
COUNTY, FOR THE NORTH DISTRICT POLICE STATION, LOCATED AT 1000
NORTHWEST 62ND STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA 33127, TO COMPLY WITH
THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY'S ("FEMA") GRANT
CONDITIONS OF EXECUTING A MODELACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF
CONDITIONS FOR MITIGATION OF PROPERTY IN A SPECIAL FLOOD
HAZARD AREA WITH FEMA GRANT FUNDS, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM.
12-00258 Summary Form.pdf
12-00258 Legislation.pdf
12-00258 Exhibit 1.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0126
CA.2 RESOLUTION
12-00259
Department of Police A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT AN
ASSIGNMENT OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FROM JAMES DEL VALLE TO JDV
FORENSIC SERVICES, INC., AMENDING THE ORIGINAL PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENT DATED JUNE 13, 2008.
12-00259 Summary Form.pdf
12-00259 Legislation.pdf
12-00259 Exhibit 1.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0127
CA.3 RESOLUTION
12-00260
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING THE BIDS
Purchasing RECEIVED FEBRUARY 7, 2012, PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BID NO.
290252, FROM VARIOUS RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS, FOR
THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA GOVERNMENTAL PURCHASING
COOPERATIVE, FOR THE PURCHASE OF AUTOMOTIVE OILS,
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LUBRICANTS AND GREASES, ON AN AS -NEEDED CONTRACTUAL BASIS,
FOR AN INITIAL CONTRACT PERIOD OF ONE (1) YEAR, WITH THE
OPTION TO RENEW FOR THREE (3) ADDITIONAL ONE-YEAR PERIODS;
ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES OF FUNDS FROM
THE USER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, SUBJECT TO THE
AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS AND BUDGETARY APPROVAL AT THE TIME OF
NEED; AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL SUPPLIERS TO THE CONTRACT AS
DEEMED IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF MIAMI.
12-00260 Summary Form.pdf
12-00260 Award Recommendation Form.pdf
12-00260 Tabulation of Bid.pdf
12-00260 Detail by Entity Names.pdf
12-00260Addendum No. 2.pdf
12-00260 Sourcing.pdf
12-00260Addendum No. 1.pdf
12-00260 S.E. FL. Governmental Purchasing
12-00260 Invitation for Bid.pdf
12-00260 Legislation.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0128
CA.4 RESOLUTION
12-00261
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
Purchasing PROCUREMENT OF MOBILE REFUSE CARTS AND CURBSIDE RECYCLING
BINS, FROM REHRIG PACIFIC COMPANY, ONACITYWIDE, AS -NEEDED
CONTRACTUAL BASIS, UNDER THE EXISTING CITY OF FORT
LAUDERDALE CONTRACT NO. 683-10073, EFFECTIVE THROUGH
OCTOBER 6, 2012, SUBJECT TO ANY EXTENSIONS OR REPLACEMENT
CONTRACTS BY THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE; ALLOCATING FUNDS
FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES OF FUNDS FROM THE USER
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDS AND BUDGETARY APPROVAL AT THE TIME OF NEED.
12-00261 Summary Form.pdf
12-00261 Letter - Procurement Srvc. Dept.pdf
12-00261 Award Agreement. pdf
12-00261 Contract Copy.pdf
12-00261 Legislation.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0129
CA.5 RESOLUTION
12-00268
Department of Police A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING
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FUNDING OF THE "DO THE RIGHT THING" PROGRAM, IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $120,000; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND, AWARD NUMBER 1169, AND PROJECT
NUMBER 19-690001, ACCOUNT CODE NUMBER
12500.191602.883000.0000, WITH SUCH EXPENDITURES HAVING BEEN
APPROVED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE AS COMPLYING WITH SECTION
932.7055, FLORIDA STATUTES, AS AMENDED.
12-00268 Summary Form.pdf
12-00268 Affidavit. pdf
12-00268 Certification of Applicant. pdf
12-00268 Annual Review & Evaluation 2010-2011.pdf
12-00268 Do The Right Thing of Miami, Inc. pdf
12-00268 Top 10 Winners 9/2010 - 5/2011.pdf
12-00268 Financial Statement.pdf
12-00268 News from Do The Right Thing.pdf
12-00268 Legislation.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0130
CA.6 RESOLUTION
12-00269
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CODESIGNATING
Works SOUTHWEST 32ND AVENUE FROM SOUTHWEST 22ND STREET TO
SOUTHWEST 27TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS "FRANCISCO CID
CRESPO AVENUE;" FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT
A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE HEREIN DESIGNATED OFFICES.
12-00269 Summary Form.pdf
12-00269 Clerk of Board of County Commissioners.pdf
12-00269 Legislation.pdf
12-00269 Exhibit 1.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Adopted the Consent Agenda
CA.7
12-00328
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, including all the
preceding items marked as having been adopted on the Consent Agenda. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
RESOLUTION
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District 4- A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Commissioner ATTACHMENT(S), DECLARING NO OBJECTION AND SUPPORTING THE
Francis Suarez CODESIGNATION BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, PURSUANT TO HOUSE
BILL 7039, DESIGNATING SOUTHWEST 22ND STREET FROM
SOUTHWEST 32ND AVENUE TO SOUTHWEST 37TH AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS "DR. OSCAR ELIAS BISCET BOULEVARD;" FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC WORKS TO TRANSMITA COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DISTRICT SIX, FOR SIGN
INSTALLATION WITHIN THE NEWLY DESIGNATED ROADWAY.
12-00328 Legislation.pdf
12-00328 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: CA.7. CA.7 is a declaration of no objection on a street designation by the state of
Florida, from 37th Avenue to 32ndAvenue on Coral Way, and it's for Dr. Oscar Elias Biscet.
Dr. Biscet is an Afro-Cuban physician and former political prisoner. He was arrested numerous
times for denouncing ongoing human rights violations in Cuba. He was awarded the 2008
Presidential Medal of Freedom. He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. And he continues
to fight for freedom and democracy in Cuba through nonviolent resistance in the tradition of
Gandhi and Martin Luther King. And I'm just going to read a quote and then, you know, it'd be
great if we could vote on this. "To love one's neighbor is also to love one's enemy, although in
reality that qualifier enemy does not exist in my vocabulary. I recognize thatl only have
adversaries and have acquired the capacity to love them because in this way, we do away with
violence, wrath, vengeance, hatred and substitute them with justice and forgiveness. " He said
that in 1999. Is there a motion on CA.7?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort, second by Vice Chair Sarnoff. Any further
discussion? Do we need a -- more than a majority on this? More than three votes?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) no.
Chair Suarez: Okay, 'cause this is just a declaration of no objection. This is not an actual
designation, okay. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Passes unanimously.
CA.8 RESOLUTION
12-00290
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), CODESIGNATING SOUTHWEST 25TH AVENUE FROM
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CORAL WAY/SOUTHWEST 22ND STREET TO SOUTHWEST 27TH STREET,
MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS "PFC MARIUS L. FERREROAVENUE;" FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC WORKS TO TRANSMITA COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE
HEREIN DESIGNATED OFFICES.
12-00290 Biography of PFC Marius L. Ferrero.pdf
12-00290 Legislation.pdf
12-00290 Exhibit 1.pdf
SPONSORS: HONORABLE MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO
CHAIRMAN FRANCIS SUAREZ
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: CA.8 is another declaration of no objection to a designation, and the Mayor's
office proffered this name to us. It's PFC (Private First Class) Marius Ferrero. He was killed in
Iraq by an IED (Improvised Explosive Device) on November 8, 2007; was on a mission
promoting goodwill, handing out toys to Iraqi children when killed. He was 23 years old. The
codesignation includes the home where PFC grew up on 2400 Southwest 25th Avenue and Silver
Bluff Elementary where PFC Ferrero attended school on 2609 Southwest 25th Avenue. Is there a
motion?
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Vice Chair Sarnoff. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor, signift by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
END OF CONSENT AGENDA
Chair Suarez: We will proceed with the order of the day. Does any Commissioner wish to
continue, defer or withdraw any item from the regular agenda or the consent agenda? I will be
withdrawing from the consent agenda CA.7 and CA. 8. Any others? Hearing none, is there a
motion on the remaining --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: -- items on the consent agenda? A move by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Is there
a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Sec --
Commissioner Carollo: Do we have to take a vote on the withdrawal?
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Chair Suarez: I'm sorry.
Commissioner Carollo: Do we have to take a vote on the withdrawal?
Chair Suarez: What withdrawal? Oh, the withdrawal of --
Commissioner Carollo: CA.7.
Chair Suarez: -- pull -- you mean pulling?
Commissioner Carollo: Oh, you're pulling.
Chair Suarez: I'm just pulling. Yeah, I'm pulling.
Commissioner Carollo: I thought you were withdrawing.
Chair Suarez: No, I'm pulling them. I'm pulling them. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Vice Chair Sarnoff. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
PUBLIC HEARING
PH.1 RESOLUTION
12-00262
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Facilities ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
GRANT OF EASEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, TO
FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY, A FOR -PROFIT FLORIDA
CORPORATION, FOR A PERPETUAL, NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT OF AN
APPROXIMATELY TEN (10) FOOT WIDE STRIP OF CITY OF MIAMI ("CITY")
OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1415 SOUTHWEST 32 AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA (ALSO KNOWN AS CORAL GATE PARK), AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A", ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION AND
MAINTENANCE OF ELECTRIC UTILITY FACILITIES, WITH THE RIGHT TO
RECONSTRUCT, IMPROVE, ADD TO, ENLARGE, CHANGE AND REMOVE
ALL OR ANY OF THE FACILITIES AND FOR NO OTHER FACILITIES'
INSTALLATIONS UNLESS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED BY THE CITY,
WITHIN SAID EASEMENT.
12-00262 Summary Form.pdf
12-00262 Notice to the Public.pdf
12-00262 Legislation.pdf
12-00262 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: PH.1
Henry Torre: Good morning. Henry Torre, director of Public Facilities. PH.1 is a resolution
granting to Florida Power & Light an easement of approximate ten feet -- ten foot wide strip on
City -owned property, located at 1415 Southwest 32ndAvenue, also known as Coral Gate Park.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner -- Vice Chairman Sarnoff, second by Commissioner
Carollo. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No. Sir, it's a public hearing.
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute. Hold up. Public hearing.
Mariano Cruz: Public hearing.
Chair Suarez: My apologies. I was trying to convey something to the Clerk and so I got a little
sidetracked. This is a -- PH.1 is a public hearing. Mr. Cruz, you are recognized for the record.
Mr. Cruz: Sure. Mariano Cruz, 1227 Northwest 26th Street, Miami. Every time I see something
from FPL (Florida Power & Light), I say good 'cause FPL, you don't know, is one of the few
companies in the United States that are getting the Demings [sic] Award about being one of the
best run companies. I am sorry to see Mr. Armando Riveras retire from the chairmanship there.
And as an electrical engineer, I know that what they do is good because they -- in my house FPL
check the -- my house last year and my electric bill has come down more than 50 or $60 a
month, and think get a really good service from FPL. So whenever I see something from FPL,
good. Go ahead with it. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Cruz.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Anyone else from the public wishing to speak on PH.1? Hearing none and seeing
none, the public hearing on PH.1 is closed; coming back to this Commission. I believe it's been
moved and seconded. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
END OF PUBLIC HEARING
ORDINANCES - SECOND READING
SR.1 ORDINANCE Second Reading
12-00256
Office of the City AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
Attorney 10/ ARTICLE IV OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "BUILDINGS/REGISTRATION OF VACANT,
BLIGHTED, UNSECURED OR ABANDONED STRUCTURES", MORE
PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTION 10-66, ENTITLED
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"ENFORCEMENT", AUTHORIZING LEVY AND COLLECTION OF SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT LIENS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE ENFORCEMENT
THEREOF; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR
AN IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE.
12-00256 Memo - Office of the City Attorney SR.pdf
12-00256 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Note for the Record: Please refer to Item SR.2 for minutes referencing Item SR.1.
Chair Suarez: SR.1.
Henry Torre (Director, Public Facilities): Thank you.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Mr. Chairman, Second Reading 1 is an ordinance that is
amendment to your regulatory scheme for vacant, blighted and unsecured or abandoned
structures, and this amendment would authorize the City now to collect any costs incurred by the
City in boarding up or saving up these properties as a special assessment.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. SR.1 a public hearing item as well. Anyone from the public wishing
to speak on SR.1?
Commissioner Gort: Move It.
Chair Suarez: Seeing none and hearing none, coming back to the Commission. It's been moved
by Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Is there a second?
Commissioner Carollo: Second for discussion.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Carollo and Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Carollo, you're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The concern thatl have, andl think I've
mentioned it to the Administration. I don't know how strongly I've mentioned it. But it's my
understanding, if the City comes and puts the metal -- I don't know what you call it -- the covers,
then you will assess a special assessment to the property owners, correct? What if the property
owner cannot afford it? What if, legitimately, you know, he's actually victimized twice?
Someone's coming in, breaking through the wood and going in there and now, you know, the City
comes, uses the metals and charges them an additional amount. Because we have many
buildings in Little Havana that, you know, unfortunately, you know, are owned by people that
don't have, you know, the means. Is there any -- do we have anything in there that can address
that? And what I'm trying to prevent is someone being victimized twice. In other words, they're
getting breaking into -- they're being burglarized. Then the second time -- then -- now we come
and we put these metal covers and then all of a sudden we charge them so, in essence, they're
being victimized twice. So I want to make sure that there's language in there or, if not, that we
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put language in there so in cases like that, there is some means of -- some way of not victimizing
an owner twice.
Chair Suarez: And, Commissioner, I remember that when we passed, I think it was the graffiti
ordinance --
Commissioner Carollo: It was the graffiti ordinance. That's exactly what (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: -- we did something very similar.
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Chair Suarez: So is -- I don't know if you guys maybe want -- oh, this is second reading, so it
can't --
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Chair, couldl be recognized?
Chair Suarez: Yes, yes, of course. Vice Chair, please, you're recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Because this is vacant and abandoned buildings, this is not a person's
primary dwelling or primary home. And I've said this before and I'm going to try and elucidate
it again. Back in England it was called "Season. " It was a common law concept and it goes
back to that you owed the king a duty. And season really means that you have an obligation as a
landowner. So if you're a landowner -- and this is, of course, not going to be a primary dwelling
'cause if it is, it wouldn't be vacant and abandoned -- you have an obligation to the citizens of
Miami, your next -door neighborhood, your neighborhood, your city, to take care of that
property. And we have, statistically, probably one of the highest, if not the highest, absentee
landlord ownership in the United States. Now you could be an absentee landowner and be a
very good neighbor, a very good landowner, or you could be -- we have a person downtown
Miami who has a -- you probably have seen it on Flagler. It's a vacant -- it was a piece of
property that used to have building that was falling down and now it's just a vacant piece of
property. He happens to be from Iowa. He's owned that property for 32 years. He is what I
would categorize as not a very good landowner and he's owned it for 32 years. Now, if this
ordinance was in effect at that time, we could have very simply closed up his building as opposed
to threatening to demolish the building. My point is as long as this doesn't hit a person's
residence, which I think is your primary concern -- might be a secondary concern, but I think it's
your primary concern -- and this ordinance is designed to make people understand that if you're
going to have a piece of property, you have an obligation. And what this does is it puts -- it's
showing -- if this ordinance is enforced by code or anyone else in the City ofMiami, the
Manager, what you're saying is you have abandoned, you have not taken care of property in the
City ofMiami and as such, government is now performing a service and a function that a private
dwelling, private owner should be performing. So I would not like to see any precatory language
about if the person can't afford it, because if you can't afford to maintain your property in the
City ofMiami, you shouldn't be a landowner.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Let me recognize first Commissioner Spence -Jones and then I'll go to you.
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Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Chair Suarez: You have follow up?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, I have a follow-up.
Chair Suarez: Okay, thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: I brought up the issue, so if I could follow up.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: And, you know, I appreciate the discussion and, you know, I always
welcome the debate and the discussion. I think it's healthy. Let me put a little bit more light to
what I'm saying and my concern. Unfortunately, we've seen the financial times that we have
been in and maybe -- and many landowners, even though they -- that's not their primary
residence, but they are a landowner and own property in the City ofMiami -- and you'll see at
least all over Little Havana there are buildings that -- you know, they're rented out.
Unfortunately, with these tough financial times, you can't always rent out the building. So let's
say it's maintained vacant, you're losing money now because you have to pay, you know, the
property taxes, you have to pay insurance, you have to, you know, pay the mortgage and so
forth, and yet, you don't have anyone there paying the rent. Months go by, you know, you can't
get anyone there. You see that someone breaks into your property, burglarizes it, and stays in
there, okay. The police comes, get these people out, whatever; still can't rent it out and now you
have to pay money out ofyour pocket to fix the window, to fix whatever is torn up. So you get to
a point and you say, you know what, I'm going to board it up and I'm going to put wood on the
windows; it's the cheapest way to make sure that no one else -- no crack heads go in there and so
forth. Well, what happens? They break in again and you go through the same process.
However, now the City comes, puts in these metal -- I don't know what you call it -- covers and
charges you a special assessment. So in essence, what you're doing is you're sinking this owner
even more and more and there needs to be some type of recourse for someone like that to not to
sink and we finally step on them and push them under the water where -- and that's where my
main issue is.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. And can I debate you on that? 'Cause I'm the landowner and I'm right next
door andl've reduced my rent andl have a business that's viable, and right next door to me is
another landowner that has his own reasons; don't know what they are, and he has boarded it
up, but the boarding up is not durable enough, people are breaking in, and now it's affecting my
business because I have a viable business in there. I'm deriving rent from them, andl've
contacted the guy next door and he says, you know what, I just can't afford it. I'm not going to
do anything about it. So now who comes in? Now comes the role of government. Government is
injecting itself into the private sector to take care of what a private landowner should be doing
based on his obligation of season, which is still on the books; just not talked about anymore, and
you're making it durable enough so that Joe and Jane Crack Head, whoever they are, can no
longer break into that building. At what point in time does that landowner say either I have to
lower my rent enough, I have to put an investment into my property, but I have a duty to do
something other than leave that building vacant and abandoned. 'Cause the scar there is not
only to the building that you have that's doing its business; the scar becomes bigger and bigger
and bigger, and then you have to ask yourself what is the role of government because
government is now injecting itself into the private sector performing a service that should be
performed by the private sector, and we should be trying to stabilize the neighborhood for those
landowners that have an expectation because that expectation may be, you know what, ifI wait
five years, this economy's going to change; that building's going to be worth more money. I'm
going to sell it. But in that five-year plan of this man or woman, I should demand of him or her
that they maintain their property, and in their failure to do so, I come in and play a private
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sector role: I stabilize that community. I spend money andl, on behalf of the citizens ofMiami,
should be reimbursed for that expenditure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Yes, Commissioner Spence -Jones, then Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, Mr. -- I kind of agree with the both of you, okay. I
understand where Commissioner Carollo's coming from from the standpoint of you know, I can
add an extra layer onto the discussion: What about if it's a senior that's living on a fixed income,
that may live in a house but yet and still own property, but quite -- meaning they live in a house
but they still -- like in my district, there are certain seniors, 70, 80 years old that, in the prime of
their life, they bought two or three different buildings in their community. Their current income,
which means they're living on fixed income at this present time, for whatever reason they're not
able to afford to cover those expenses like they used to, okay. I understand where Commissioner
Carollo is coming from from the standpoint of trying to find some delicate balance in there . I
don't know if there's any way that we can include, you know, any financial hardship. Maybe
there's something that we can include that addresses the issue, you know, of the fact that maybe
they are living on a fixed income or something along that lines because there are going to be
instances -- andl know I have a lot of property owners in my district that owns second or third
properties in the prime of their lives and now they're having an issue. I don't know if there's any
way that we could carve that out somehow or at least make some sort of special exception for
those individuals because I do believe that that is going to be an issue. I also understand
Commissioner Sarnoffs viewpoint and that is, you know, you have a, you know, young family
that's moved into a neighborhood that is truly, you know, trying to live the American Dream and,
for whatever reason, on the block of their house, there is an abandoned -- I have those situations
too -- crack house, and every single day their child or daugh -- their son or daughter have to
walk by this house where there are drug things hanging out at the house, you know, and if there's
a way to resolve that issue, that would be great. So I just -- I think the one way to address this,
Commission Carollo and Commissioner Sarnoff, is to maybe perhaps -- andl don't know if that's
something that needs to be included in this particular ordinance, per se, but maybe there's
something that deals with financial hardship. Maybe there's something that deals with, you
know, if you're a senior or somebody living on a fixed income or whatever the case may be, you
know, I think that there is a place for both. That's neither here nor there on my issue, but I do
want to at least chime in 'cause I think that there's -- there is a resolution for both issues. My
concern is more around the bottom line issues and that is -- you know, first of all, I want to thank
the Administration. Alice worked very hard on pulling this all together and has made the
necessary changes. I want to thank the Chairman 'cause I know that this is something that he
took leadership on, and this is going to address the issue of what we see happening in our
neighborhoods around the whole issue of crime and drug -related, criminal activity in these --
with these buildings, soI want to thank you guys on that because my original concern was the
metal covers -- covering and not being able to really define what does that mean. So now that
we have it defined, I'm grateful and thankful for that. My only discussions and questions that
came out of my briefings yesterday was -- andl didn't really realize this in my first briefing, but I
want clarity from you, Alice, on this, and that is, you know, whether or not we decide to do this
or not -- andl think that we have the support for something like this -- my biggest concern is the
overall cost. When it was explained to me in the very beginning, it was communicated, oh,
Commissioner, if you board up your house -- let's say you board the front door of a house or
abandoned property, that doorway might cost you $25 worth of plywood, but if it's the metal, it
may cost you $23 worth of the metal but you would never have to replace it. It'll be on there, you
know -- unlike the plywood, you'll -- you might have three or four different times that you might
have to replace it. So I said, well, that makes a lot more sense. I mean, why we keep replacing it
over and over again. What I did not realize, which is my concern, is that that 25 -- $23 that we
have to pay is 23 -- just a doorway -- $23 times 12 because now it is -- actually, it's being rented.
And for some reason, I was thinking that we were actually -- it was going to be somewhere
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purchased, but it would be a rental -- it'll be a rental of that, so all -- you know, when we started
doing our numbers yesterday just on one piece of property, if it was an abandoned house -- and
I'm talking about the doors and the windows -- we're looking at almost a hundred -- possibly
$109, 000 just on one piece of property. That's a lot of money, you know. So I don't know if my
fellow colleagues actually broke the numbers down on this. And then I started asking me City
Attorney, okay, well, you know, if this is not going to come from our coffers and if this is going
to come from the liens, which I'm totally cool with it 'cause we all know sitting up here, we can't
afford to spend $109, 000 on one piece of property. We just can't. As a matter of fact, I would
take that $109, 000 and build me another house for that amount. So then my question becomes
already I know that, you know, Julie has been working hard with her team to deal with these
issues of the liens and making sure -- but this takes time. And already with this lien money, we're
using it to fill holes, to, you know, do a whole bunch of other things that we're asking the City
Attorney's office to work on so that we can collect the revenue off of this. So then my question
becomes where is that money going to come from? And we all know sitting up here, just based
upon our most recent briefings, we cannot afford, you know, to make any decisions that's going
to have an effect on our bottom line. So what would want to hear from the Administration --
and again, this is not voting on any particular company. It still has to go out to bid and that can
be negotiated in there --
Alice Bravo (Assistant City Manager/Chief of Infrastructure): Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- so that we don't have this issue of you know, a rental fee that's
going to cost $109, 000, so I'm cool with, you know, having the flexibility on that. But I think it's
important for my peers sitting up here to realize that once we vote on this thing and this is not
going to come back in front of us -- if I call and I say I have five abandoned properties that need
metal replacements, then -- andl tell Johnny that needs to be handled immediately and Johnny
goes to move to do that, the question becomes where is that money going to come from?
Ms. Bravo: Right.
Commissioner Gort: Let me ask you a question. Mr. Chairman?
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Does this ordinance enforce us to use metallic? My understanding is
(UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: No, that's the next one.
Commissioner Gort: That's the next one.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: In other words, they don't have to use metal. The people get the option to
use whatever materials they want to use.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. But it's never about -- I mean, the point is it's really not
whether or not we use board or the metal. The point is the cost. If we decide to use cost, you
know, and we're not in control over how much this cost is, the Manager has to do that, then the
question becomes, you know, how do we regulate in the end of the year spending a million
dollars on it.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Commissioner, you have anything?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's all want to know.
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Chair Suarez: Commissioner, do you have anything else?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So can I get my question answered?
Chair Suarez: Oh, yeah, of course, absolutely, please.
Ms. Bravo: Good morning. Alice Bravo.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Bravo: Assistant City Manager. You know, the prices that were available to us were for
rental rates, but it's our intent to do a procurement where we would have both a purchase or a
rental option so that there are properties we could reuse the metallic covers as necessary. In the
case of SR. 2, the owner has the right to secure the property --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Bravo: -- themselves at their cost. In the case of a second violation, in essence, we're
helping the owner protect his own interest --
Ms. Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Bravo: -- if there's going to be a repeat break into the property that could lead to a fire and
the loss of the ultimate property, so this does, I think, provide benefits to the property owners.
And per our previous discussion at first reading, our intent is to use funds that are collected
through the recoup of liens from the City as the funding source for this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. And all want to say is I support the ordinance 'cause I
think it needs to happen 'cause we need to have the option. It's not even about that. I just want
to make sure that if there's any way, Madam City Attorney, we can add to the ordinance -- andl
don't know how we would actually put it in there -- that it needs to be very clear that the funds
that would be used from this will be set aside in a special fund to -- you know, from liens
collected to address that, andl don't think that this ordinance is very clear on that. I would just
want to make sure that before we vote -- and if we get the support on it today, that there is -- that
it's understood that this money will come from the liens collected and placed in a special revenue
account just for that. Because I'm telling you, you know, all of us are going to be up here calling
Johnny and say, Johnny, I got abandoned building in my district, once this is voted on and we
want it handled now. And l just don't want us to be in a situation financially at the end of the
year we have a problem because you got ten properties. That's almost a million dollars. That's
a million dollars. That's two per Commissioner, andl know we all got more than that in our
districts. So I'm just saying think that in light of everything that we've been dealing with
financially, we have to be very cautious about the decisions that we vote on. So I would just
want to amend this to include that -- Madam City Attorney, I don't know if you could speak to
that. Can we at least include in this ordinance that the revenue can only come from the liens
collected in a -- and placed in a special revenue account to address this issue only?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Okay. First of all, let me just clam what's going on. We've been
discussing two separate ordinances at the same time --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Bru: -- so let's -- and that's okay because they're related. They're amendments to the same
section of the code.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Bru: The first one is just purely procedural to give us the authority to be able to collect the
special assessments. The second one has to do with if there's a second violation at the same
property, then the City -- and keep in mind, this is a regulatory scheme. It just gives the City the
discretion --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Bru: -- to enforce it. It doesn't mean that it's mandatory. And furthermore, the City could
not be able to enforce this regulatory scheme if it didn't have the funds to enforce it. So I would
defer to your Budget director to tell you how best to secure your wishes that no monies be
spended [sic] in that program unless they're available from a designated source of revenue but
that can be done that way.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So -- and it can be actually put in the ordinance?
Ms. Bru: Well, I would defer to your Budget director since that's just a --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is the Budget director here?
Ms. Bru: -- it's a budgeting issue.
Chair Suarez: Wait, wait. But that would be a modification to SR.2, not a modification to SR.1.
That's --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Chair Suarez: We're on SR.1 right now.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. Okay.
Chair Suarez: So if we can, if we could just --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: -- get through SR.1 and then we'll go --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No problem.
Chair Suarez: 'Cause SR.2 also has many of the problems that Commissioner Carollo -- and I'd
like to address some of them.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Because I think -- I'm hopeful that after I address some of them, he may be a little
bit --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you.
Chair Suarez: -- less concerned.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you.
Chair Suarez: So SR.1, I'm opening up the public hearing.
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Commissioner Gort: Excuse me.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): It was done.
Chair Suarez: Yes. I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. You did open --
Chair Suarez: Oh, I did?
Ms. Thompson: -- and vote. Yes.
Chair Suarez: And we closed it. Okay, I'm sorry. Commissioner Gort. I apologize.
Commissioner Gort: Let me tell you, this is a theory of the broken window, and I've seen the
deterioration that has taken place in a lot of the good neighborhoods that we have, and the
problem is people laugh at us. I mean, how many liens do we have outstanding? I think it's
3,000, 4,000 liens. Their property is still -- nothing is being taken care of because people laugh
at us. We don't have enforcement, so this is one way to enforce this; I agree. And Commissioner,
we can -- in some of our neighborhoods, CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) funds
can be used to help some of the individuals. You got your economic development. You got your
HOME (Home Investment Partnership Program) funds, so there's a couple of funds from CDBG
that can be used in some of the neighborhoods where we have the most problems. But most of
the criminal activities and complaints that I receive is from people calling -- and they call me two
years ago about an abandoned home where criminal activity --
Chair Suarez: Nothing's happened, yeah.
Commissioner Gort: -- is taking place. I call Code Enforcement. I call the police. Oh, we went
in. We put a lien on it. But that problem is still going on and ruin that neighborhood. The
neighbors are calling me. I mean, I'm getting a lot of complaints, and I'm sure all of you are too.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Lot of the fire department talk to them. A lot of the fires that happen in
these homes, where does it come from? From abandoned homes. So we need to do something.
Andl agree with you; I need -- some people need assistance within certain neighborhood, but we
have to bring these neighborhood up also. We can use CDBG funds. I agree, we should use the
-- any collections that we have from those revenues should be used specifically for that.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: I think we need to pass this. Andl think we got to give a message to
people, hey, we're going to enforce it.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. Andl might have been one item before you guys. I totally
agree with the support of this item, you know, definitely. I mean, this was not an issue for me. I
do -- I just wanted to really expand on the fact that what you're saying -- whether Commissioner
Carollo was saying regarding the issue of hardships, so I don't know if there's some language
that could be put in this particular item, Commissioner Gort, that deals with hardships or deals
with people living on fixed incomes; if there's any way that we can include that somehow that
there's some special, you know --
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Commissioner Gort: Let the attorneys (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. Is there anything that --
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- you can think of Julie?
Chair Suarez: Yes. Hold on one second, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. It's funny, you know, as we discuss the item here today, it
brings back memory. We've had this discussion in the past. It was with the graffiti ordinance. It
was very similar and brought up the same issue as far as someone being victimized twice. In
other words, someone comes, graffiti their home. Here comes NET (Neighborhood Enhancement
Team) office, paints over it, and then sends them a bill and gets victimized twice. So we've had
this discussion with regards to session or season and everything else that was discussed, and we
did put language with regards to a hardship where someone would have to prove that they truly
have a hardship, and then I forgot what the exact language is. But if we go to our graffiti
ordinance, it's there. The language was put -- was placed there, so maybe --
Chair Suarez: So --
Commissioner Carollo: -- we just need to --
Chair Suarez: -- just table it. Maybe we could table it until the afternoon and then --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, I think we should table it --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: -- and look at our graffiti ordinance because --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: And I don't know if Commissioner -- or Vice Chairman Sarnoff
remembers, but it's the same -- this pretty much the same arguments we had with the graffiti
ordinance so -- and we put some language there with regards to hardship. So I think if we put
some of that same language, I think we could reach a consensus where all of our, you know,
concerns will be addressed.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Well, let me put it to you like this. Expenses to clean, maintain are really no
different than taxes. If you don't pay your taxes, you lose your property, and it hurts everyone in
the neighborhood. It lowers the value of the entire neighborhood and, inevitably, it cost us as a
citizen -- as a city because it lowers our ad valorems. In this circumstance we're talking about
abandoned structures. We're not talking about people's homes. And your point was well taken
with regards to somebody's home because somebody's home gets graffitied, you know, it's tough
because your -- they're victimized a second time. In this circumstance we're talking about a
structure that already is abandoned, which means it's not your dwelling, it's not your home. It's
an investment property for you. If you're going to be an investor, you have obligations. Just like
you have an obligation if you're in the stock market, you have an obligation to the citizens of
Miami; you have an obligation to your neighborhood. So my point is this is different and distinct
than the graffiti which could touch somebody's home. And all am trying to say is -- andl -- so I
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cannot support a modification because I think the role of government is much more limited than I
think many of the Commissioners up here. I think the role of the government should be -- that
stop -gap measure when somebody has not taken care of investment property, that the role of the
government is to then stabilize that property, put the necessary lien on that property and have the
ability to foreclose on that property. I'll even go so far as to say for SR.2, if it's determined by
the Manager that wood does not work because it's in such a neighborhood -- in such a condition
that it's -- recidivism is occurring and people are breaking into that place time and time again,
then he should have the option of securing that structure with this metal banding or whatever
we're going to call it. So I don't -- I agree with you with regard to graffiti 'cause it's not on an
abandoned structure. On an abandoned structure, which to me is an investment property, you
have an obligation as an investor. Just like you have an obligation as an investor in the stock
market, you have an obligation in any type investment: You have got to expend money to
maintain that investment.
Commissioner Gort: Commissioner Sarnoff, may I add something --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- to Commissioner Sarnoff?
Chair Suarez: Yes, yes.
Commissioner Gort: Most of the abandoned properties that we've had problem with, they're
owned by the banks.
Chair Suarez: That's what I was going to say.
Commissioner Gort: That's why I want to send a strong message to the banks: Listen, if you guys
don't take care of your properties, we're going to make you pay for it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But -- okay. Can I just add to that?
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I think that if -- and that's why I think that there is some room,
Commissioner Carollo, in here for us to at least be able to -- you know, like you said, let's look at
the language from the graffiti ordinance, I mean, and if there is something in there that we can
use -- because there's always going to be someone that's going the be affected. I can use another
example. Suppose my mother's in a nursing home. She's living there. Her house there --
Chair Suarez: Or in the hospital.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- for whatever --
Chair Suarez: Or in the hospital.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- reason, it's still her house, you know. She may not have the
financial wherewithal to cover it. We just -- as --
Chair Suarez: Good example.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Listen, you know, we -- at the end of the day, I understand that
gover -- we -- you know, we have to -- government has a role and responsibility, but we also
have to be sensitive to our residents, the people that elect us.
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Chair Suarez: Agreed.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You know, so it's important to have some wiggle room in here
somehow. So let's, if we -- Mr. Chairman, if we could --
Chair Suarez: We're going to table it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- table it --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, we're going to table this --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and then come back and --
Chair Suarez: -- for the afternoon.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- address it, that would be cool.
Ms. Bru: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) we can address it now.
Chair Suarez: Really.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Okay, good luck.
Ms. Bru: Your -- the graffiti program is that the City created a mitigation program where the
owner of a property who's been victimized by graffiti can come to the City and request that the
City assist in funding the cost of painting and if the person -- if the property owner does that,
then that person doesn't have to pay the fines. So apparently there is some source of you know,
funding available for buying paint for property owners who are victimized, who seek assistance,
and therefore they're relieved from the penalties associated with graffiti. So that's how your
graffiti program works. In this case, you know, I -- the similar situation would be identifying a
source of funding available to a property owner who has a vacant abandoned property who's
now becoming, you know, the source of you know, criminal activity, who comes to the City and
says, I don't have the money to correct it; I'm the victim of a crime; can you board it up for me.
Chair Suarez: And let me just say I think there may be a solution, a middle ground here, which is
similar to what you described in the graffiti ordinance. We can have a time frame, ten days,
fifteen days, where someone can come in and claim a hardship. If someone is irresponsible, an
irresponsible landowner, they're not going to come in --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, exactly.
Chair Suarez: -- 'cause they don't care by definition. By the way, I agree with Commissioner
Gort. I think it's seven -- and Mr. Cabrera could tell you probably the exact number, butt think
it's like 70 percent of all the properties that are abandoned are either owned by banks or in the
foreclosure process.
Commissioner Gort: Or mortgage companies.
Chair Suarez: So I think, you know, the -- there's still that 30 percent and that 30 percent is as
important (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
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Chair Suarez: So you know, so I think there's -- it's a good point. And actually, I want to
commend the Vice Chair because I started this discussion totally on Commissioner Carollo side
and not that I changed, but when you -- you kind of made me think about the fact that it was
probably not somebody's primary home. That kind of did, you know, give me a little bit of a
different perspective. But I think if we do a time frame, ten days maybe, if everyone's
comfortable with ten days.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Could we be a little longer than 15?
Chair Suarez: Fifteen days or fourteen days, two weeks?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What about 30 days?
Chair Suarez: Thirty days is fine.
Commissioner Carollo: And look, I'm just seeking a compromise so -- because let me tell you
something. I think it brings some very valid points, Vice Chairman. And you know what,
Commissioner Gort said, as far as the banks owning, I mean, I think he's absolutely correct.
However, you got that 30 percent. You got that homeowner -- and listen, we've seen it up here.
I'll give you one, you know, and I hate to bring it up and maybe I shouldn't, but Flagstone .
Flagstone is a perfect example. Hey, look, financially, we can't -- you know --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know. We keep giving them breaks.
Commissioner Carollo: -- we can't do anything. Andl mean, I would say that's abandoned right
now. Now, you know -- so listen, there -- finance -- these financial times have brought issues
where people may not be able to rent their homes out or their apartments, andl think there might
be some type of hardship, and l just don't want to, you know, be -- you know, government come
in and just stamp them under the water and, you know, sink them. So I think -- I'm just looking
for some room for compromise for that individual that is an owner and, you know, does have a
hardship.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Let me just say one thing on what he just said.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: I think part of the issue here is that there's a little bit of confusion with SR.1 and
SR. 2 --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know.
Chair Suarez: -- okay. So we're --
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Chair Suarez: -- where a lot of our discussion really should be --
Commissioner Carollo: SR. 2.
Chair Suarez: -- more appropriate to SR.2.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
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Chair Suarez: And in SR.2 -- now I'm going to make (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, don't you talk about it. Let's --
Chair Suarez: I'm not going to go --
Commissioner Gort: Let's finish SR.1.
Chair Suarez: All right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- SR.1.
Chair Suarez: Let's finish SR -- no. 'Cause, look, SR.1 only allows -- it cleans up language that
allows the City to basically enforce a special assessment.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Chair Suarez: That's all it does.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And that's fine. And --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- as long as --
Chair Suarez: That doesn't need a time frame.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. On SR.1, we don't need a time frame.
Chair Suarez: No. No, no, no, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Because it's -- that's a procedural thing. They're just saying now you have the
right to do -- in fact, it's just changing language that already exists.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Not a problem.
Chair Suarez: Well, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can --?
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) they can ask for extensions.
Chair Suarez: It's -- SR.1, a public hearing has been closed and it's been moved and seconded.
It's an ordinance. I'm sorry, Madam Clerk, you want to jump in?
Ms. Thompson: No. Yes, yes.
Chair Suarez: Go ahead.
Ms. Thompson: Making clear that everyone understands that the motion and second was made
on SR.1 as is; no modifications.
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Chair Suarez: As is.
Commissioner Carollo: As is.
Chair Suarez: As is.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Yes, thank you. Madam Attorney.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just wanted -- I do -- I would like for the Administration before
the days over with -- I asked Danny already -- I would like to at least -- just from the past, I want
to know what liens have actually -- and the amount that they've been collected so far, 'cause I'm
just curious as to how much we've actually collected on liens. And Danny say he couldn't give it
to me right now, but I would like to know what it was. Okay, that's it.
Chair Suarez: Ready.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We had a motion and a second.
Chair Suarez: Motion and second. Madam Attorney.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Ms. Thompson: Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading as is, 5-0.
Chair Suarez: Now, let me --
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chair --
Chair Suarez: -- ask the Commission if you want to do this now, SR.2, or do you want to wait for
the afternoon to do SR.2?
Commissioner Carollo: Real quick, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Carollo: Madam City Clerk, I don't know how it's going to be placed, but you
know the majority of the discussion that we just had actually pertains to SR.2.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Ms. Thompson: As we always do, as is our protocol, any time you comingle discussion on items,
when you go to your minutes, you will see where it's listed that item -- discussion on this item and
the next item or whatever companion item were presented in such and such and when -- example,
SR.1 will say discussion tookplace on SR.1 and SR.2. SR.2 will say discussion tookplace on
SR.1, SR.2, so you have that connection for your record, okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
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SR.2
12-00153
City Manager's Office
ORDINANCE
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
10/ ARTICLE IV OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "REGISTRATION OF VACANT, BLIGHTED,
UNSECURED OR ABANDONED STRUCTURES", MORE PARTICULARLY BY
AMENDING SECTION 10-63 ENTITLED "RESPONSIBILITIES OF OWNERS
OF VACANT, BLIGHTED, UNSECURED OR ABANDONED STRUCTURES"
TO ADD METALLIC COVERINGS TO THE LIST OF MATERIALS USED TO
SECURE BLIGHTED, UNSECURED OR ABANDONED STRUCTURES;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
12-00153 Summary Form SR.pdf
12-00153 Memo - Estimated Costs FR/SR.pdf
12-00153 Estimated Rental Costs FR/SR.pdf
12-00153 Rental of Protection Coverings FR/SR.pdf
12-00153 Calls for Srvc. - 01-01 thru 12-31-10 FR/SR.pdf
12-00153 Calls for Srvc. - 01-01 thru 12-31-11 FR/SR.pdf
12-00153 Legislation SR (Version 4).pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item SR.2 was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April 26,
2012.
Note for the Record: Please refer to Item SR.1 for minutes referencing Item SR.2.
Chair Suarez: So do we want to do SR. 2 now or do you want to table it till the afternoon? Are
we ready to go forward, Madam City Attorney?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Let me suggest something 'cause what I'm hearing here is that you
want to continue with the program of authorizing the City to enter upon private property that has
been abandoned and subject to blight; allow the City to go and take remedial measures in the
public, health and safety and then collect the cost. That has always been the program, right, but
now what we're doing is saying -- you know, talking about specific materials that will be used in
case of a second violation. And you want to now also consider a program whereby certain class
of property owners will be allowed to enjoy the benefit of having the City board up the property,
but yet not collect the cost as a special assessment, and that's what you're saying. No?
Chair Suarez: No, no, no, no. I -- we're talking about SR.2 now?
Ms. Bru: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay. I just -- let me just say something on SR.2 before we start with SR.2. It's
just -- maybe it will allay both of your concerns a little bit. First of all, I agree wholeheartedly
that we should put in there the special revenue fund aspect of SR.2 so that I'm 100 percent on
board with. But there's two things. One is that in this particular case, if someone is violating --
'cause they're not securing their property with wood or with whatever, whatever material -- they
can -- first of all, they can put whatever material they want, as inexpensive as they want, but they
do have a duty to maintain it and to maintain it secure. And if, for some reason, they fail in that
duty, they have 30 days before an issuance -- a violation is given, so they do have 30 days to
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comply, to come up with some way to comply with the law. Then the other part of it is that it --
we debated this when we were creating legislation that -- it doesn't say the City "shall" put
metallic coverings; it says the City "may" put -- and that's subject to fundings, subject to
discretion. I mean, subject to maybe somebody coming and saying, look, to the Mr. City
Manager, look, I can't afford it, so it's just too -- it's unfair. So I think that protects the residents.
But you know, I don't know if you guys want any extra stuff in there. You know, it's up to you
guys. Commissioner Gort and then Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Gort: My understanding is SR. 2 is just giving them the option to use metallic.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) doesn't have any conditions or like that. And it's
important people to know once an inspector come to your home and issues you a citation and
they give you 30 days to perform, if you cannot do it within 30 days, you have the option to come
in front of them and request additional time and they'll give you additional time. They'll give you
up to six months and a year if you come and you commit to fix it, so the -- this individual will
have the right to ask for extensions.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So, Alice, I'm thank you for this item, not the first one. So I'm
totally okay with it now only because of -- you know, you were able to kind of further define in
this particular item, you know, what we meant by metallic, so I'm cool with that. I just want to
make sure from my City Attorney if there's any way in -- from the language standpoint that, in
this particular ordinance, we could at least say that those rev -- that the revenue -- that there's a
special revenue account that's set aside to deal strictly with this from a lien stand -- from lien
standpoint. I'm just concerned about it becomes an item that, you know, the City Attorney will
turn around -- I mean, City Manager will turn around and use it from the general fund. I want to
be very clear in the language, the ordinance, that those revenues can only come from the liens
collected from these properties.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes, you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: Up to now, the only funds had been used is the one from CDBG
(Community Development Block Grant) funds for the neighborhoods qualify.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. But the difference now --
Commissioner Gort: What's different is whatever we collect, I agree with you, but that could be
a resolution.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. But the difference is HUD (Department of Housing and
Urban Development) will not allow for us to use metallic. HUD -- we can collect only on the --
what do you call it?
Commissioner Gort: Wood.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Wood, but HUD doesn't pay for -- I'm just -- I just want us to be --
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we -- in light of everything that we're dealing with, we need to be very mindful about how we
spend money. So I'm just asking that -- andl don't think this is a big ask. I'm just saying if we
do this -- and support us doing this -- can we have a special revenue account that's -- the funds
from the -- that will only be used from the liens collected 'cause HUD will not pay for these
metallics? Now, I know that we're working on that. That's something the Administration is
working on it in DC (District of Columbia) to get HUD to change it, which hopefully, that will
happen, but you know, we can't hold our breath waiting for HUD to change it. So is there any
way in this language, in this ordinance that we can include that?
Daniel Alfonso: Daniel Alfonso, Budget director, City ofMiami. If the Commission wishes to
establish a special revenue fund --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Alfonso: -- we could do so by a resolution.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Mr. Alfonso: As a matter of fact, the Manager and I and some of the senior staff have been
discussing just that as part of the mid -year amendment, which will be coming to you. The
amount is what we're discussing to seed some money in there for -- whether it's demolition of
unsafe structures or boarding up or et cetera.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So you're -- are you saying that, Madam City Attorney, this
needs to be a separate item altogether or we cannot include this in this ordinance?
Ms. Bru: I think that your Budget director is saying, you know, you can approve this ordinance
because this is only giving the City the authority to do this. If the City doesn't have the money to
do it, they can't do it. So your Budget director is saying by resolution, you can then direct the
City Administration that before any money is spent in any of these programs, whether it's a
demolition, a lot clearing, or boarding up an abandoned property, there has to be funding in a
special revenue account that's being populated by liens that are collected before the activity
takes place. That's what I'm hearing. And we can do that by resolution.
Chair Suarez: Andl would add any other funding source that is not general funds.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: In other words, you know, if HUD does change their mind and say that --
Ms. Bru: Right.
Chair Suarez: -- you cannot use CDBG, economic development money for that, then that as
well.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So I just want to be clear. So your recommendation, both Budget
and the City Attorney, is that we do not include it in this ordinance, but I'm assuming Danny will
bring back a separate resolution? Perhaps we can have that, you know, at the next City
Commission meeting.
Mr. Alfonso: Commissioner, it is my intent to put something on the mid -year resolution that it
will becoming April 26--
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
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Mr. Alfonso: -- related to special revenue fund. I just want to draw -- is there a distinction
between liens and special assessments?
Ms. Bru: A special assessment is a lien on the property, and the Manager --
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): I would just --
Ms. Bru: -- suggested --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. They are different.
Ms. Bru: -- we can --
Mr. Martinez: We can put it in right now.
Ms. Bru: -- put it in this ordinance if you want.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's what I'm saying. Why don't we just -- I would like for it to
be in the ordinance.
Mr. Martinez: I mean, we could say --
Ms. Bru: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I don't understand why there's a problem with that.
Ms. Bru: Right. So you --
Mr. Martinez: -- the funds used to do metallic coverings will come from a special assessment
account which will be fed by liens that are collected --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's --
Ms. Bru: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: Let me just clam.
Mr. Martinez: -- or any other funds --
Chair Suarez: A special assessment is a certain type of violation that allows a city to lien the
property and use the property as collateral for the payment of the special assessment.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. And the special assessment can be sold where a lien cannot be sold.
Chair Suarez: Absolutely. That's correct.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So it is not the same preacher.
Commissioner Gort: Not the same as a lien.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. It is an encumbrance on the property --
Chair Suarez: It is.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- holding the same dignity as a tax lien.
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Chair Suarez: Yep.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so can we include that, Madam City Attorney?
Ms. Bru: We'll amend the ordinance to provide that, you know, any -- that the -- any funds
expended in implementing this program are restricted to funds -- we'll work with your Budget
director on the actual language; you know, coming from a special revenue account that will be --
Chair Suarez: You mean the mid year resolution, correct?
Ms. Bru: No. We're suggesting we can put it in here so --
Chair Suarez: Oh, you want to put it (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F)?
Ms. Bru: -- the law will be --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. Can --
Ms. Bru: -- conditioned upon --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, please.
Ms. Bru: -- having the funding coming from a particular funding source.
Chair Suarez: Okay, that's fine with me.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Well, wait. If you're going to do that, you no longer have my support.
Ms. Bru: Well --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's fine.
Ms. Bru: -- this is --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So -- I'm just saying.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) resolution.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I'm not restricting myself to -- this ordinance is going to be on the books for
the next 50 years, and I'm not going to restrict myself or I don't think you should restrict this
Commission andl don't think you should make it the law ofMiami that -- think about what
you're doing. You're -- you know, it's sort of like you put more people in prison and why is that?
'Cause you didn't have good enough schools. It's a result. This -- you're turning around and
restricting your ability to deal with unsecured, unsafe structures, the broken window theory, and
you're saying, well, only if we have enough money from HUD, but HUD won't cover this; only if
we have enough money from the recurring foreclosure process that the City Attorney's going to
go through, but because we have restricted ourselves in this ordinance and we have money left
over from a given fiscal year -- andl have no idea what this City will look like in three years, two
years. I'm not going to restrict myself to fix the broken window 'cause a broken window causes
you more cops, more prisons, less schools, brings down your property values. You -- this is -- it's
-- it is anachronistic to what you're trying to do.
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Chair Suarez: Well, that's why --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman, can I just add something?
Chair Suarez: Yeah, go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You know, Commissioner Sarnoff, you make -- definitely making a
great point because we don't know where we're going to be five or ten years from now. We may
have a general fund that is actually, you know, we're doing great in the City and that might be an
option, but once we vote on this item, is it your understanding or your feeling or this is what
becomes law that we now no longer have the option --
Vice Chair Sarnoff It's an ordinance.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- correct, to --
Vice Chair Sarnoff It's the law of Miami.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. So we no longer have the option to take --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- it from general fund, even if we're -- we are flourishing. So that
makes a very good point. You're making an absolutely good point.
Chair Suarez: And that's why I think we should do it as a reso because you can always rescind a
reso --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so --
Chair Suarez: -- you know. Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- let me just be clear because -- I guess maybe I'm just operating
in our current state of condition, so I'm like -- every item that comes on this agenda, I'm like now
asking how we're going to pay for it, how are we going to pay for it, how are we going to pay for
it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff And that question --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And let --
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- and that's a question we should -- you're right, ask that question every
time.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We ask it --
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) ask it (UNINTELLIGIBLE), yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- all the time.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So excuse me if I'm a little gun shy right now, but these last two
weeks has given me a great reason to feel a little gun shy about whatever thing we vote on here.
But I do agree with you 'cause we don't know where we're going to be from five years from now
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and that might be a better option -- the general fund could be an option. So is the
recommendation to let it flow the way that it is and to bring back a separate resolution? I can be
[sic] with that. That's not an issue.
Chair Suarez: I think that's the right way to go because I think we can later on -- you know,
times are tough right now.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F)
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, that's fine. It makes sense.
Chair Suarez: But in the future it may not be and we can just rescind the reso and it's not the
law, you know, of the land; it's just a board policy. So -- yes, go ahead, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Just one question. It doesn't have to be metal because the problem we have
with metal today, metal has a value and we all know -- and Public Works can tell you -- in some
of my neighborhood, I'd rather have wood than metal.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, because --
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- you're saying the property -- it's the property owner's decision
as to what --?
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, I think --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: If they're not boarding it up --
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) hours if we can bring down the cost, let's try to do it.
Chair Suarez: Andl think we discussed that, we debated that when we were coming up with this
legislation and so that's why we didn't want to restrict or make it automatic that someone had to
put something metallic. I think what we wanted to do was say that someone who's basically a
flagrant violator who doesn't, you know -- I see Zari shaking her head back there -- someone
who doesn't -- 'cause she worked with me on it -- someone who doesn't -- you know, someone
who just doesn't care, you know. It's someone that's going to have to be required to do
something extra, you know what mean. Andl think the metallic coverings that I've seen are --
you cannot steal them. You cannot take them. You cannot steal them. I mean, you would have to
bulldoze the building to take the coverings off of it so.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So do we have a motion on -- are we --?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Not yet. We have to open up the public hearing on SR.2. Anyone from the public
wishing to speak on SR.2? Seeing none, hearing none, the public hearing on SR.2 is close;
coming back to this Commission. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by --
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Vice Chair Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Spence -Jones --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Suarez: -- second by Vice Chair Sarnoff.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chair. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to add something too, Alice. I do want to address the
issue, though, of the possible costs associated with it. I'm assuming when the RFP (Request for
Proposals) goes out, you're going to at least negotiate, you know, the item to make sure that, you
know, we're not stuck with $109, 000 for one property. So I'm --
Alice Bravo (Assistant City Manager/Chief of Infrastructure): Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- just hoping that there's something put in place to address that
issue because it will be a problem.
Ms. Bravo: Right.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. It's an ordinance. I'm sorry, wait.
Before that, Commissioner Carollo, you're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. I just want to vernj, that -- you know, andl want clarity, that the
City does not have to use metallic. Therefore, if within those 30 days -- andl guess when the
notice goes out, we need to get some type of language letting the owner know that they should, if
they have any hardship, come to the City to make sure that, you know, metallic is not place and
wood or somehow discuss it with the City so it's not a undue hardship on them, so --
Chair Suarez: Yeah. And I think --
Ms. Bravo: And --
Chair Suarez: -- and ifI may, I think Section 10632b says that if a violation is not corrected
after 30 days from the issuance of the initial notice of violation, so they get notice. If they don't
get noticed, then they have no obligation.
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Ms. Bravo: And just to add that this ordinance also serves to add metallic coverings as the list of
options that the City has under 1066, and 1066 is where the City may step in and take action. So
we'll --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Bravo: -- coordinate accordingly.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. This is an ordinance.
Ms. Bru: I just want to clarify because the way the ordinance is before you, it does require if the
violation is not corrected after 30 days or if there is a issuance of a second violation, the owner
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is required to secure the openings with commercial quality 14-gauge, rust proof metallic
coverings. So if the Commission is saying that you don't want that to be mandatory but
discretionary, we need to modifi, that.
Chair Suarez: No. I think what -- I mean, I don't know. I can't speak for everyone else, but
what was saying is that didn't want it to be mandatory on the City --
Ms. Bru: On the City.
Chair Suarez: -- for the financial reasons that Commissioner Spence -Jones stated so that the
City is not forced to spend money --
Ms. Bru: Okay. So we --
Chair Suarez: -- to have to do it.
Ms. Bru: -- will review the ordinance and make sure that the provisions in the ordinance that
give the City the authority to take the remedial measures is up to the City to decide what kind of
covering it's going to use.
Chair Suarez: Right. It's not -- it's permissive or not.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And let me ask you this question just so that I'm clear. So let's say
this violator, this individual, they get noticed and then they -- 30 days have passed but then they
go and they put up wood.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: At that point are they --?
Chair Suarez: They're good.
Ms. Bravo: They're good.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: They're good.
Chair Suarez: They're good.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right.
Chair Suarez: 'Cause all they have to do is secure the property.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's it.
Chair Suarez: If they put up wood and the wood gets taken down and they put up wood again,
they're fine. If they -- you know, they can keep putting wood up --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Suarez: -- as many times as they want.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you.
Chair Suarez: Or even something less expensive.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: As long as we're not the ones putting it up.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: And as long as the property's secured. That's really the key here. Because as you
mentioned, in your district and in --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: -- my district and in many -- in all of our districts, unsecured properties are
causing a tremendous, tremendous impact on the quality of life of our neighbors.
Ms. Bravo: Right. And --
Chair Suarez: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Gort: Let me tell you one of the problems the bank had when it had the
foreclosures. Instead of leaving the people inside their homes and make some kind of
arrangement with them, make the people abandon their home and that's what created all the
problems.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. It's been moved and second.
Ms. Bru: Mr. Chair, I need to clam what is --
Chair Suarez: I didn't hear what he said; I'm sorry.
Ms. Bru: No, no. -- being said. The ordinance, as written, does require if there's an issuance of
a second notice of violation, the owner has to secure it with metal.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, I understand.
Ms. Bru: Has to.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, exactly.
Ms. Bru: But that's not what I'm hearing.
Chair Suarez: But I'm --
Ms. Bravo: But on the City's perspective.
Chair Suarez: -- but he doesn't have to do it -- wait a second. No.
Ms. Bru: If a second --
Chair Suarez: He can comply within 30 days, though.
Ms. Bru: Right.
Chair Suarez: He's got 30 days to -- he can do wood again and again and again.
Ms. Bru: Well, but it --
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Commissioner Carollo: No.
Ms. Bru: No. It says --
Commissioner Carollo: No.
Ms. Bru: -- upon issuance --
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Ms. Bru: -- of a second notice of violation, the owner will be required to use metal.
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Ms. Bru: So that's sort of like a punishment for being a repeat offender.
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Ms. Bravo: But -- so it would have to be a violation issued if the property's unattended.
Chair Suarez: It's a notice of violation. The violation is an issue because it's just noting him
that there's a defect and then they can cure the defect. That's why you get a notice before the
violation is actually administered.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah. Violation takes place if you don't complies with the ordinance
(UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can you read it again, Madam --
Commissioner Carollo: With metal, though.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- City Attorney, just so we're clear?
Ms. Bru: It says upon issuance of a second notice of violation for the same offense, okay --
based so the owner has a violation and they get a notice -- to correct that violation, they have to
board it up with metal.
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly, which is --
Ms. Bru: The second time around, wood is not enough.
Commissioner Carollo: -- significant (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: Then I would change it to say if within 30 days the issue is not corrected and a
second notice of violation for the same offense is sent, then they have to do it with metallic
coverings.
Ms. Bru: Right, right. So the second notice requires metal. It requires that the correction be
metal. Remember, the notice is telling you --
Chair Suarez: Right.
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Ms. Bru: -- you've got to take corrective action so --
Chair Suarez: Yeah. I think where I'm getting -- where we're getting caught up here is that if the
guy complies and --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: -- he gets noticed, it's a first notice again; it's not a second notice. You
understand what I'm saying?
Ms. Bru: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) first (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: Right, it's a first notice so --
Commissioner Gort: And the second one is the first one too --
Chair Suarez: Right. And that's what I think we're getting --
Commissioner Gort: -- because it's a new case.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Gort: It's a new case.
Chair Suarez: A second notice is 30 days after the first notice.
Ms. Bru: Well, I think maybe --
Chair Suarez: So --
Ms. Bru: -- your Code Enforcement director --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can we just table this to make sure --?
Ms. Bru: -- should address what --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, let's table it.
Ms. Bru: -- the second notice is --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Let's table it.
Chair Suarez: That's fine.
Ms. Bru: -- 'cause I'm confused.
Chair Suarez: We're going to table it for the afternoon. We can discuss it and then we'll figure it
out. Okay, thank you, guys.
Commissioner Gort: The question is if the person complies within 30 days --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Commissioner Gort: -- somehow somebody comes in and breaks up again --
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- that's not a second notice. That's again a first.
Chair Suarez: That's --
Commissioner Gort: Okay, that's the one -- that's what they would like to have, okay.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: That's the way understand it, but they want --
Chair Suarez: Andl think that was where the confusion was, but --
Commissioner Gort: -- it in writing.
Chair Suarez: I mean, if you guys want to table it, we can table it.
Commissioner Gort: Table it. Come back.
Chair Suarez: Do you want to vote or you want to table it?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, let's table it. Let's table it.
Chair Suarez: Okay, we're tabling it.
[Later..]
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) to -- can I ask you something?
Chair Suarez: Yes. And we have -- we still have three more items.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We do?
Chair Suarez: Yeah. We have SR.2, which is the metallic coverings, finishing that one.
Commissioner Carollo: Defer it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can we defer it (UNINTELLIGIBLE)?
Chair Suarez: Okay. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Carollo: I move to defer.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Move to defer.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Second --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- by Commissioner Carollo. Move to defer it to the next meeting?
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: So that takes care of that.
END OF ORDINANCES - SECOND READINGS
ORDINANCES - FIRST READING
FR.1 ORDINANCE First Reading
11-00567
City Manager's Office TO BE WITHDRAWN BY THE ADMINISTRATION
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
39/ARTICLE II OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "PEDDLERS AND ITINERANT VENDORS/SIDEWALK
AND STREET VENDORS", TO ELIMINATE SIDEWALK AND STREET
VENDING WITHIN THE MIAMI ARENA; PROHIBITING VENDING IN THE
BISCAYNE BOULEVARD SPECIAL VENDING DISTRICTS AND TO ABOLISH
THE LOTTERY SYSTEM AS A MEANS OF ASSIGNING VENDORS TO
SPECIFIC VENDING ZONES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00567 Cover Memo 04/12/12.pdf
11-00567 Summary Form 10/13/11.pdf
11-00567 Letter - Miami DDA.pdf
11-00567 Letter - Downtown Miami Partnership, Inc.pdf
11-00567 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
WITHDRAWN PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
FR.2 ORDINANCE First Reading
12-00330
Department of AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
Off -Street Parking 54/ARTICLE I/SECTION 54-9 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, ENTITLED "STREETS AND SIDEWALKS/IN
GENERAL/PLACING SIGNS ON ANY PORTION OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY,
STREET OR SIDEWALK SURFACE", MORE PARTICULARLY BY ADDING
SECTION (F) TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF SIGNS OR ADVERTISING
ON CITY OF MIAMI, OR AN AGENCY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, OWNED
FACILITIES OR FIXTURES LOCATED WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
12-00330 Summary Form FR/SR.pdf
12-00330 Legislation (Version 2).pdf
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Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item FR.2 was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April 26,
2012.
FR.3 ORDINANCE First Reading
12-00240
Department of Public AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
Facilities 2/ARTICLE IX OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "ADMINISTRATION/CITY-OWNED PROPERTY,
MORE PARTICULARLY BY CREATING SECTION 2-779, ENTITLED "SIGNS
ON CITY -OWNED PROPERTY," TO REGULATE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING
SIGNS ON CITY OF MIAMI OWNED PROPERTY, DELEGATING APPROVAL
OF SUCH SIGNS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DIRECTOR OF
PLANNING AND ZONING; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12-00240 Cover Page SR.pdf
12-00240 Summary Form FR/SR.pdf
12-00240 Miami21 -Article 4. Table 12 FR/SR.pdf
12-00240 Legislation SR.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be PASSED ON FIRST READING WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following
vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Suarez: This is what I'm going to do now. We're going to go to FR.3, which is the signs
on City -owned property, to allow one of the three stakeholders to put their thoughts on the
record, and then we're going to table that till 3 p.m. time certain where another stakeholder has
requested a time certain to discuss FR.3. So I'm just going to open up FR.3 for the Gusman
Center and then I will reopen it at 3 p.m.
Herman Echevarria: Good morning, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission.
My name is Herman Echevarria andl chair the newly -created board of directors of the Olympia
Center. It's a 501(c)3 that was created per the request of the City ofMiami to maintain the
operation of the Gusman Center open. I came before this Commission -- can't remember how
many month ago -- and made a commitment on behalf of myself and a group of business leaders
and members of this communities that were willing to donate certain amount of money of
$10,000 a year for five years as an initial way of maintaining the Gusman that at that time was
to be closed, shut down because of the City's cannot maintain funding the deficits of the Gusman
Center. And when I came before this Commission, I stated very clearly that my intentions were
during this five years that we were putting our money to maintain operation to create an
infrastructure that was going to allow this wonderful facility, this iconic place that we all want to
keep open and maintain in downtown Miami for years to come, and that as we -- this group of
business leaders were to retreat and allow others to come, for years to come this government,
this body will not have to worry about whether you're going to have a open facility or closed
facility next year or whether you have the funding or not to maintain it open. And as I explain it,
the plan, the plan was divided in different phases. Phase one was us putting the money, which --
to the -- I can report to you that that has been accomplished. We have been able to raise some
funding from very distinguished members of this community who have committed not only
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verbally but in a contract, including me, that was the first check, that for five years we'll donate
$10, 000, raising half a million dollars to at least keep this place open. As all of us here know,
that does not resolve the total financial issue of the Gusman. There is a lot to be done. And in
order to continue, we are -- we've tried and we're trying to find different ways of generating
revenue to the Gusman Center. And one of those, which I explain it back then clearly, was -- and
I'm going to say it the way I said it back then -- the naming rights. Obviously that became an
issue. Then we change it to sponsorship right, and that was still an issue. I can understand that
all of us must always try to satisfy those that believe that changing or removing the name of
Gusman from this historical building was the wrong thing to do andl stated back then that that
was not our intention. My intention was to raise the money and to resolve it. And as we move
forward -- because again, I'm not an expert. None of us were experts at that time, talking to
some of you. Because of the marquis of this place, it says Olympia and then Gusman right on the
bottom, the board of directors decided to keep that as it is, and obviously, that's how this LED
(Light -Emitting Diode) signage came about. Without the LED signage in front of our building in
a very delicate and a very unique way installed, it will be hard for us to add one of those revenue
sources, the sponsorship or naming, whatever we want to call it, to provide the necessary
revenues for the future structure of the financial ability of the Gusman and the Olympia center
and this is one of those. There are more of other issues. There are more things that we are now
working on that hopefully we can work with this Commission to make it happen. I can assure
you that this is key instrumental for the maintaining this facility open because we are going to be
here only five years and can tell you, every business leader that -- that donated and
contribute, I explain it clearly, as I explain it to all of the Commissioners, what was our plan.
Step one was us taking over this responsibility, which we did. Step two, getting the 501(c)3,
which took us almost a year to get it, but we got it approved. Step three was go out and visit,
which I did on a personal basis, all these business leaders and explain it phase one, two, three,
and four, and they all understand that they were putting this money, but that we were here in a
joint venture with the City ofMiami in finding this type of revenue sources to maintain this
facility thereon and after. So I urge this Commission to support this effort. We've provided some
ideas to the Commission. I'm sure the -- you've seen it on the flat screen, but it's sort of a -- this
is sort of a way to be able to provide not just the revenue source to the Gusman, but let's assume
that we have a sold -out event inside the Gusman and we want the community that cannot pay the
40, 50, 60, $70 to see what's going on inside, just the same way they've done in the City ofMiami
Beach with the --
Chair Suarez: New World Symphony.
Mr. Echevarria: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: The New World Symphony.
Mr. Echevarria: Yes. And the City wants to close the street at night and allow the community to
come out and enjoy what's going on inside this beautiful facility. It can be projected on this
specific screens, LED screens or mesh -- I don't know what it's called. I'm really not an expert
on it. -- to -- as a community service. So we need to look at this not just as a revenue source for
the Gusman Center, the Olympia/Gusman Center, but the -- as a community service also, which
that is one of the way how we looking at it. And so I urge each and every one of you to support
this wonderful source of revenue for this wonderful facility that hopefully all of us working
together will be able to maintain it and keep it open for years to come. Thank you --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Echevarria: -- for allowing me this morning. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to be
here at 3 o'clock. I'm traveling out of town, but I've requested the Chair to allow me to comment
and talk to all of you.
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Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Echevarria. Before -- is there anyone else from the Gusman that's
going to speak on this or you're the only person? If -- is anyone -- any members of the
Commission have --
Mr. Echevarria: Margaret then --
Chair Suarez: -- any questions for Mr. Echevarria before he --?
Mr. Echevarria: Before I -- yeah, if any questions --
Chair Suarez: -- leaves?
Mr. Echevarria: -- I'll be more than happy to answer.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner, you're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I have a few questions. And by the
way, Mr. Chairman, Echevarria, thank you for coming here --
Mr. Echevarria: My pleasure.
Commissioner Carollo: -- and addressing us. I know that you've been involved now with the
Gusman at least now for, I would say, over a year with regards to this. Andl remember when
you first asked with regards to us, you know, approving the 501 (c)3 and for your group to take
over and that you were going to -- I think you mentioned about 50 community leaders were going
to be stepping up and donating X'amount of money, 10,000 a year for five years and so forth so,
you know, I applaud you for that.
Mr. Echevarria: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Now when you're saying that in order to maintain this open -- because
in the past, there was never any talk of having this type of billboard in the Gusman. This is new.
When you came to us before, it seemed like the majority of the funding was going to be raised
through the private sector through these members. But with that said, when you say that in order
to maintain this venue open, you need this. What do you mean by to maintain open?
Mr. Echevarria: Let me -- I'll clarify that for the record.
Commissioner Carollo: And can we start claming that?
Mr. Echevarria: Sure. Commissioner, when I came before this board, I stated very clearly --
and we can go back through the records -- that us giving us $10, 000 for five years was not
enough to maintain this facility open; that we were going to create a structure and one of those
structures was clearly the naming rights, meaning changing the name -- selling the name to a
corporate entity that was going to generate 5, $600, 000 a year and that was an additional
revenue source. That was -- one was us, two was the naming rights, and the three is an issue that
will come before this Commission pretty soon, which is the commercial and the units on top. I
was very specific on that meeting andl think -- people that were here -- I mean, I don't say
something today I did not say yesterday. So when I say to maintain it open, it's because indeed
we need all this revenue sources to make sure that we can invest in this facility, which owned by
the City of Miami at the end of the night, and make it happen. We are going to be here only five
years; andl can tell you, a half a million dollars is not going to resolve removing the scaffolds
and removing all the things that needs to be done in this place. On the 28th we're hosting an
event at Gusman, held by the Leadership Miami, that we convince him to use us as one of the
entities to support, raising $100, 000 to buy a projector because we don't have a projector. We
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had the film festival not too long ago and we had to go out and rent a projector that cost us,
what, $14, 000, you know. So this is the things we're doing here. Half a million dollars -- my
$10, 000 a year for five years and all the other 50 business leaders is not going to resolve this
place andl state it clearly back then andl will repeat that today. When I said to maintain it
open, I mean that sincerely. Because, you know, maintain it open doesn't mean just keep it open,
open the doors. It means I got to remove all those scaffolds. I got to fix up that bottom place. I
got to make this a state -of -the art facility so that people feel proud of -- this needs to be a
destination. If we think we're going to keep this place open just because we put this money here,
it's not going to happen because people don't want to come downtown Miami. You need to
provide them a destination where people feel comfortable, feel proud to come and eat and dine
and stay around, not just come and see a show.
Commissioner Carollo: I have here that you're operating cost, expense, more or less, is about
$1.5 million.
Mr. Echevarria: No. That is incorrect. That is operating at the minimum cost of this operation.
If we're going to run a first- class operation, I can tell you, our operating cost is going to be $2.5
million.
Commissioner Carollo: Do you have a breakdown of that?
Mr. Echevarria: I'm sure we do. I mean, I'm not -- I don't have it with me, but definitely we do.
Commissioner Carollo: 'Cause I haven't seen it. I just --
Mr. Echevarria: But can assure you that, Commissioner, because why -- we barely have a very
small group of employees. We don't have business development people that are going to go out
to other cities and try to bring shows here. We don't have none of that. All we have is a director,
assistant director, an accountant, and a couple of people, and that's it. So my obligation -- or
our obligation as a board was, right, bring it down to the minimum cost so they could keep it
open. But just because we gave this money doesn't mean we're going to stay open.
Commissioner Carollo: And by the way, I do want to point out. I wasn't one of the individuals
that back then, before the last budget hearing --
Mr. Echevarria: But you supported us andl --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, I supported you all because, you know -- and you mentioned, hey,
I'm going to have at least 50 -- andl think it's on the record -- people coming forward --
Mr. Echevarria: And that is -- that has not been our problem. Our biggest problem now is
going beyond that level.
Commissioner Carollo: Let me ask you, out of the $1.5 million, how much of that 1.5 is going to
be coming from these individuals?
Mr. Echevarria: Half a million dollars -- $10,000 a year times 50 is half a million dollars a
year.
Commissioner Carollo: And that's what you have pledged already or at least will be --
Mr. Echevarria: We are --
Commissioner Carollo: -- for the current year, for the --?
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Mr. Echevarria: -- now more than half of that already in --
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, 'cause --
Mr. Echevarria: -- signed and executed.
Commissioner Carollo: The information that I received -- and again, I'm only, you know, as
good as the information that request and I'm provided. That's not showing that. It's showing
that it's a lot less, the money's that's coming in, which means to -- shows me that --
Mr. Echevarria: What is the information you're getting? Why don't you be specific so I can
answer it?
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. I see the donations from directors, 125, 000.
Mr. Echevarria: That is an incorrect -- that is incorrect number at this time because as of --
Commissioner Carollo: Okay.
Mr. Echevarria: -- last week, three other members just came on board.
Commissioner Carollo: No. And --
Mr. Echevarria: Andl can mention the names. I mean, this -- look, let me explain. We have
over 80 people that have been visited and presented with a plan. Out of those 80, we have some
27, 26 that have already come in so we are about there. And every week we get a new signed
contract and a signed check. This is not something that just happens because I -- you know, you
got to go talk to these people, you got to convince them, you got to show them that this body, this
government is supporting us. Because at the end of the night, they don't have an obligation, they
don't have -- I mean, we're doing it because we -- listen, let me say this once again. I own no
property. I have no business interest in downtown Miami, personally or any of my family or
relative. The only reason I'm doing this is because this government, the Mayor, who's here,
who's a friend, and all of you are friends, asked me to come forward and try to help this
institution andl will continue to do so with pleasure. And the books are open. There -- we --
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) & Associate is a CPA (Certified Public Accountant) firm that is donating
their time to audit our books for five years. That was an in -kind contribution. Ralph Patino,
who's an attorney, his law firm has put endless hours of time in trying to put this old
infrastructure in place at no cost to us, so there's people with goodwill who really want to make
this happen. But I can assure you that unless this government is willing to work and help us the
same way we came and help this government -- not close the Gusman because let me make it
clear, you guys were going to close this place.
Commissioner Carollo: Well -- and that's where I was going. Back in those discussions of the
budget hearing, I think the amount -- and now I'm going on memory and, you know, I apologize
'cause usually I have my facts right in front of me, but I'm going on memory -- it was about
$300, 000 that the City normally put into the Gusman. I was not one of the elected officials that
says -- that said we will not put that money towards the Gusman; therefore, the Gusman has to
close. I was not one of those officials. However, that was the direction that the City took and
that's where I guess the Mayor asked you to step up. I don't know who else. I don't know if
Commissioner Sarnoff was involved, but the bottom line is --
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner Sarnoff, andl spoke to every -- each and every one of you. Not
Commissioner Spence [sic] because she was not here, but then I met with her afterwards.
Commissioner Carollo: Right. -- asked you to step up and you came up with this plan, which,
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again -- and by the way, I commend you, I commend everyone that's stepping up, the attorneys,
the CPA firm. But I just -- I want clarity. I want to make sure because my intention is really, you
know, in good faith effort to make sure this happens andl need to just my vote in the future.
And when you're saying that in order to maintain open, I need to verin, and do my due diligence
with regards to the numbers. And in all fairness, even we thought at that time -- and as a matter
of fact, our budget voted for only $100, 000 to go for helping Gusman.
Mr. Echevarria: And you did.
Commissioner Carollo: The additional $200, 000 --
Mr. Echevarria: The City has been what -- I have no complaint for the City's --
Commissioner Carollo: And by the way, the additional two hundred and something thousand we
will be voting on today as an adjustment because somehow -- I don't know what was the timing
or what, but it didn't happen from your group. We're --
Mr. Echevarria: I'll tell -- no, no.
Commissioner Carollo: -- going to be paying for it.
Mr. Echevarria: It wasn't it did not happen from my group. I'll tell you what happened here.
What happened here is that it took us a year and a half to get this agreement done. What
happened here was that it took us almost a year to get the 501(c)3, and between you andl, you
cannot go and ask for money if you don't have a 501(c)3. People are not going to donate. I did
it on my own will and some others did it, you know. And the initiative, the 4 -- 70, $ 80,000,
whatever it was, 7 or 8 people, but we knew that we needed a 501(c)3 in order to be able --
because whoever has donated wants to deduct as a tax deduction, and that is a fact
(UNINTELLIGIBLE). Now, let me say this. The reason I say that is because if we don't remove
those scaffolds, if we do not fix the exterior of this place, if we do not put the capital
improvement dollars into this facility, we're not going to stay open because people rather go
somewhere else, and let me just leave it at that. There's other places more elegant, nicer,
cleaner, neater, with a lot of parking that we don't have. We have all those handicaps. So we
got to get better than everybody else to keep this place open. That's what I'm trying to say,
Commissioner. By the way, there is a projection -- there's a study done, which I inherit, which
we're going to be pretty soon putting a request for proposals from companies and people to come
-- that says the cost 18, 12 million, 9 million, so I don't even know. We have no idea what is the
real cost to fix this place, so the board of directors is now saying, let's ask for -- let's put out an
RFQ (Request For Qualifications), an RFP and let people come forward and tell us what the real
cost is fixing up this place is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chair.
Mr. Echevarria: But that study was done by a reliable engineering firm that is, you know --
that's known by the City. I don't even know.
Chair Suarez: Are you still holding the floor?
Mr. Echevarria: Price Jennings.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Mr. Echevarria: I don't know.
Commissioner Carollo: And by the way, Mr. Echevarria, you know, I appreciate that and that's
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pretty -- that's my line of questioning with regards. When you're saying, hey, if this doesn't
happen, we're going to close down or --
Mr. Echevarria: No, I'm not --
Commissioner Carollo: You know, right away --
Mr. Echevarria: I didn't make --
Commissioner Carollo: -- I --
Mr. Echevarria: -- what I meant to say, Commissioner, with all due respect, is that what we did
was put a Band-Aid on it.
Commissioner Carollo: I know what you're saying.
Mr. Echevarria: Keep it open.
Commissioner Carollo: And you're saying that you need --
Mr. Echevarria: We got to --
Commissioner Carollo: -- X'amount of dollars for capital improvements. That's what you're
saying.
Mr. Echevarria: I need revenue sources. This, plus old issues that we're working on it, because
at the end of the night, ifI would spend 10, 12 million, 15, whatever we're going to spend to fix
this place up, we may have to go out and find a way to finance this, and how do we going to
repay it. I got to show that there is a sponsorship --
Chair Suarez: Revenue stream.
Mr. Echevarria: -- revenue coming of half a million dollars a year from here. I got to show that
this is comingfrom (UNINTELLIGIBLE) in order to repay because (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --I
mean, no one's going to finance any of this unless we can -- we have a repayment way of doing
it.
Commissioner Carollo: And Mr. Echevarria, that's exactly what I'm asking. In good faith I'm
saying, okay, I want to see these revenue sources not just from the signs because --
Mr. Echevarria: Oh, there's more. I mean, I can tell you --
Commissioner Carollo: And that's --
Mr. Echevarria: -- the building and it was a tacit understanding here. We spoke about it,
remember. We cannot take over the building. We cannot take over the commercial because the
City was in the middle of a lawsuit with some other entity and it was a tacit understanding. It
was even addressed in our agreement with the City that when that was resolved, we were to take
possession of that building because that building was generating a couple hundred thousand
dollars a year, or $300,000, andl don't know what the real number is yet, but that was
something that we talk about here on public record and was addressed at that time andl know
that issue will come before you soon. Whenever is the date, I have no idea.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: First of all --
Mr. Echevarria: How are you?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Good after -- good morning, Herman. My -- this thing that we're
talking -- this is three different items.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Echevarria: I know that.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: This discussion is really supposed to be about the murals --
Mr. Echevarria: That's all there is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- which I'm assuming when it's all said and done, your direct
communication is you need some of this revenue to at least assist with your bottom line.
Mr. Echevarria: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And I'm assuming that's what you came to put on the record today.
Mr. Echevarria: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So I'm trying to make sure that put them in the different
categories.
Mr. Echevarria: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So I think we got the point -- at least I got the point that you're
saying, in a nutshell, I need some of this revenue or all of this revenue to at least assist with the
bottom line of the (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Echevarria: Well, all of that -- yeah, all of the revenue is going to go to --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, that's what your recommendation is, but the City
Commission has to agree to that, you know.
Mr. Echevarria: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But -- so I think we got that. The other two items --
Mr. Echevarria: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- are stuff -- things that we're dealing with later, the apartment
complex and --
Mr. Echevarria: And the commercial and all that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And all that. The only thing that I wanted to have clarity on --
andl asked for this yesterday and, hopefully, since we're going to take it backup at 3 o'clock, I'll
get a better understanding and maybe I can get that during the break -- is your financial
statements from -- it's all -- I guess as of May, you would have been there for a year. Andl think
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what you're hearing from Commissioner Carollo is when I came on board, you guys had already
voted and approved this item. Margaret knows I support her, I support the Gusman. I know
what you guys are trying to do. I love the idea that a private person is stepping up to the plate
when nobody else wanted to, you know, so I just wanted to -- I would like to see the numbers. I
would like to see the financial statements for the last -- let me finish -- year on how much money
has actually been generated not only from, you know, the resources from the events itself that you
have there, but from the commitments that have been made. And my concern as I sat and talked
to you that day is that a lot of people commit a lot of things. A lot of people pledge things, but if
the money's not in the bank, we can't count it. So all would like to do in this break of time is
make sure thatl get the financial statement of what monies have actually been collected in this
year's period of time that you've had to work on it? And let me -- I had a chance to listen to both
of y'all and it's not really -- these are just questions I have. Really, you don't have to even
answer them now.
Mr. Echevarria: No, I'll be more than happy to.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm hoping that -- hopefully, staff can tell me this. The other
question I had -- you mentioned something about five years. You say you have five years. You
mean five years of what? I just want to be clear.
Mr. Echevarria: Let me explain. First of all, we took over not in May; in October.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: Just to make that clear for the record.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: Our plan was phase one, create a 501 (c)3, a non -for -profit entity, go out and
visit and raise money from the private sector --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: And the agreement was $10, 000 a year for five years. People will sign --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, no, I understand that. I just want --
Mr. Echevarria: And that's how we're doing it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Echevarria: And so I --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can you explain to me what do you mean --
Mr. Echevarria: So we --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: When you say the five years, do you mean --?
Mr. Echevarria: It's a five-year commitment. That's it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, five years. Not the agreement with the City five years.
Mr. Echevarria: No, no, no, no, no.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Because our agreement is --
Mr. Echevarria: Our private --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- our agreement is --
Mr. Echevarria: -- sector was, and then our job as a board was to create a structure of revenue
sources like the one that is before you today --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. But just -- I just need a --
Mr. Echevarria: -- and others so that when five years end, we don't have to continue putting our
money. And we've generated because of attendance --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: -- because of the sponsorship rights --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right, right.
Mr. Echevarria: -- because of the building and the commercial, it's generated enough funds to
maintain and support not only the operation but the fixing up of this place.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You know, I gotcha. I just -- when you said it, it wasn't -- I wasn't
really clear. So now the five-year commitment is individuals that have decided to support your
effort, right?
Mr. Echevarria: Including me.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right, including yourself -- that in five-year period of time,
hopefully the Gusman can be stable. But the agreement with the City is not five years. The
agreement with you is 15.
Mr. Echevarria: What -- yeah. I don't remember what the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, yeah. I just want to make sure. Right?
Mr. Echevarria: The agreement with the Olympia, Inc., which is --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Echevarria: -- a not -for -profit entity.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No problem. So I just wanted to be clear on that. And then just
on the questions on the murals. You did -- when you sat down and talked to me, you did mention
to me that, you know, the revenue streams for the naming rights, you know, that was the whole
big issue.
Mr. Echevarria: And we --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And you're trying to find a company that could come on board to
be a part of you know, naming the facility. Never in that discussion, though, was there a
discussion about murals and the possibility of funds coming from the mural funneling back into
the general operations of the space. We didn't -- we never had that discussion. What you're
saying is in light of your original discussion with the Commissioners and with the City body,
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your intention always was to get some funding -- revenue stream from --
Mr. Echevarria: From a naming right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- some sort of naming or sponsorship opportunity and now you're
saying that that can now transition into the possibilities of the mural now that can have possible
advertising that could be utilized --
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- those resources could be utilized to the bottom line, correct?
Mr. Echevarria: -- and also as a point of information, when we said changing the naming and
removing the Maurice Gusman name out of the marquis, you need to understand how much grief
I've gotten and every one of you have gotten from certain members of this community.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: Andl respect that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Echevarria: So, you know, things are not signed in stone.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Echevarria: So we decided let's leave the marquis as it is. Let's leave the Olympia, which
we cannot remove anyways because it's part of the historical preservation, and leave the
Maurice Gusman's name under the way it is right now.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: And as we sell the -- or we go out and procure the sponsorship, the best place
to -- as we develop -- whether it's we're projecting the -- what's going on inside, you put this logo
of your sponsor.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. No, no.
Mr. Echevarria: Because this sponsor may be there for three years --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman, Herman, Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: -- And it may be there for four years.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you.
Mr. Echevarria: You got me, okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you. So I just want to make sure that there was no original
commitment from this body that the revenue generated from any type of outdoor advertising or
murals would actually go to the bottom line of --?
Mr. Echevarria: But let me say this to you. I mean, I have mentioned it to you, but I didn't have
mention it to some of the Commissioners here. Andl think Commissioner Sarnoff was one of
them; Commissioner Suarez, I believe I mentioned it. Andl thinkl spoke to Commissioner
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Carollo about it too and Gort so -- because, again, when this whole thing happened, you were
not here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You -- but you're talking about recently, not in the beginning of
you taking it over.
Mr. Echevarria: No, no, no. At the beginning we just spoke about different ways of marketing,
advertising, exposure --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Echevarria: -- a large screen to project out. Those things were talked about in some way. I
didn't know exactly how to do it because I'm not --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Echevarria: -- an expert at this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, no problem. You cleared up some -- The only thing I'm
going to ask from the Administration on this -- during our break on this issue -- ifI can definitely
get the numbers, that would be very helpful for me, Herman, so that --
Mr. Echevarria: Sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- at least I'm clear of what was actually generated for the last
year.
Mr. Echevarria: If you don't mind, let me ask.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I mean, you don't have to give it to me now. I mean, I have -- we
have three hours before we get to it. I just want to make sure that we have that. Just so that you
know on my end, I mean -- and I'm going to have this viewpoint across the board in my briefings
regarding these murals -- is that, yes, I understand the Gusman and, yes, I understand, you know,
all these agencies and organizations that have to meet their bottom line in order for them to
survive. We have that situation in the City itself. We have to meet our bottom line.
Mr. Echevarria: I understand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We're laying off City employees, the possibility of that being an
option. You know, we're reducing on our City services. So when we start looking at potential
revenue sources and this becomes one, okay, then to me we have to look from the perspective of
how can we also share in some of those revenues, andl guess we'll talk about that at 3. But my
concern in closing on this particular item, not the other stuff okay, is, you know, if this is voted
and approved and supported, that the reality is that that revenue definitely has to be shared not
only by the individuals that, you know, have the facilities that need to operate, but we also have
to think about our bottom line from a City's perspective. So I mean, I'm -- I don't want to get
back and forth on this issue. I guess --
Mr. Echevarria: No, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- we'll pull it up --
Mr. Echevarria: Andl want (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- we'll deal with it later on. But I do want to say this to you
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'cause I know that you and I got off to a -- I don't want to say a shaky start, okay.
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner, I have no issues --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But --
Mr. Echevarria: -- with you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right, I know. Andl do understand that it's important to get the
private industry, and you stepped up to the plate, you know, when no one else wanted to, andl
just want you to know the Gusman's bells been ringing before you came along.
Mr. Echevarria: I know it's been your --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: For seven years they were ringing the bell, okay, and every year
the City continue to put money in it. But it's great to see that you have stepped up to the plate
and that you're trying to make it work and we don't want to be, you know, opposition in private
industry trying to come in to help, but we got to figure out a way to have a balance between the
both. We got to make sure that we support a historical facility that needs to help, but we also
need to make sure if there's any opportunities for us to generate revenue that's going to support
our City employees, our City services and our residents, that we need to do the same. We have to
think about them and think about our City the same way that we think about any other facility.
Mr. Echevarria: Andl respect that very much. I've been in public office myself many years ago
soI understand your position. But want to make one final clarification, ifI may, Mr.
Chairman. We need to be looked in a very different way. We did not -- we, mean I and all of us
that have contribute, that are putting our own money, did not have to do this. We came in rescue
of a city facility on behalf of this City, so let me just -- the difference between us --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Echevarria: -- and others is that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: But we didn't have to do this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. Herman --
Mr. Echevarria: And -- but you understand what I'm saying? Because, you know --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But Herman, you're not -- I just want you -- you don't have to
plead your case up here. I don't -- at least not with me you don't, okay.
Mr. Echevarria: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So that's not really the issue, and we're not talking about all the
other things 'cause I'm going to have some issues and concerns about all the other things when
they come up later, but I'm just speaking of where we are right now.
Mr. Echevarria: No problem.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The bottom line is, andl think what the Commissioners need to
hear outside of all this other stuff is that in order for me to continue to operate, this is a possible
revenue stream that will continue to help us survive and keep the Gusman going. That's really
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what it is.
Mr. Echevarria: That's really what it is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Everything else doesn't really -- at this point doesn't really matter
right now. But I would like to see the financial statements on break so that I can ask some
intelligent questions.
Mr. Echevarria: I can tell you, Commissioners, that we had a transitional from the Parking
Authority. We did not have an in-house accountant. Finally, we were able to hire one. Now we
have all those books in order so I -- you know, we have financials. We can show it to you. No
problem.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, that's it. And ifI can see it, Mr. Manager, during break,
that's great. Sorry, Mr. Chairman, for going so long.
Chair Suarez: No, no. That's okay. I think Commissioner Carollo has one last thing to add and
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: -- then we'll table this.
Commissioner Carollo: I just want to follow up, andl think some of the information is probably
not going to be in the financials as I know when you came before us and you asked us, you know,
for permission to operate it or be -- you mentioned that within 30 days you would have at least
50 people sign agreements. Are -- did they sign those agreements?
Mr. Echevarria: And, Commissioner, you're right. But what happened here is -- let me explain.
No, I did not mention in 30 days I was going to have sign agreement. I said that I will go out
and visit; that I've talked to a lot of business leaders that were willing; that I was the first one to
do so; that mention it for the record that we did not have a 501 (c)3 and that became an issue.
We are now getting to those numbers, but it took us a year to do that. And by the way, we're still
doing it. Every week ifI don't have one or two meetings with different individuals that already
visit a year ago because I didn't have a 501 (c)3, now I need to go back and revisit those people.
But we've gotten over, what, 21, 22 already, 25. I don't know what the exact number. I know
every week they're coming in. But I can assure sure you that the 50 people will be -- total 50,
which is half a million dollars a year for five years, will be done in the near future. I can assure
you this, my friend. That it takes a lot of time to convince people to a specifically do something
for an organization like this in downtown Miami the way it looks right now.
Commissioner Carollo: Herman, just two points, and believe me, I'm doing this out of good
faith. I want this to be --
Mr. Echevarria: All right.
Commissioner Carollo: -- a plan that works and that's why -- but at the same time, you know, I
mean, this all is about, you know, the finances. And I'm not even touching the point -- and listen
Mr. Echevarria: And Commissioner, let's assume for a minute I don't raise the money, okay.
Let's assume for a minute. I already put my money so my 10,000 are there and another 20
something. Let's assume we don't -- tomorrow no one else gives us a check.
Commissioner Carollo: But here's the --
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Mr. Echevarria: What are you going to do, close the place down?
Commissioner Carollo: Here's the thing, Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: This [J D is -- all it's doing is, this is your building. This is your property:
Commissioner Carollo: Right. Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: So at the end of the night, it's revenue that's going to generate this city.
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: So what is the issue?
Commissioner Carollo: The issue is that that revenue that's generating is going to the facility as
opposed to police services, fire services, solid waste, and the most basic needs of a city, okay.
Now, with that said --
Mr. Echevarria: Okay. But then -- Commissioner, let me say this to you. Simple, let's --
tomorrow we give you back the Gusman and you guys come and return all of our monies back.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, okay.
Mr. Echevarria: If you go do your (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Guy -- Chair --
Mr. Echevarria: You guys can do what -- listen, I am really -- I am --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: -- I'm here --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: -- doing my business. I don't need to do this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: And I'm getting a really hectic about people questioning me, my --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: -- credibility when I come --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Chairman.
Mr. Echevarria: -- before this Commission to save a place that belongs to the City ofMiami.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman, Herman.
Chair Suarez: All right, guys.
Mr. Echevarria: I'm really getting upset about this.
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Chair Suarez: All right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, but Herman, Herman, Herman.
Mr. Echevarria: It's up to you, gentlemen.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right.
Mr. Echevarria: Thank you for the opportunity.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Herman, let me -- let -- Herman --
Commissioner Carollo: And Mr. Chairman --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- let -- can I --
Commissioner Carollo: -- ifI may?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- just say this one thing and then I'm going to shut up. Herman,
you are a elected official, right?
Mr. Echevarria: Yeah, but --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But -- I mean, you were elected official, right?
Mr. Echevarria: I was.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. You know -- you sat on this side of the dais and you know
that we have a responsibility to ask the questions. I don't want you to feel in no way that you're
not -- quiet -- valued or we don't appreciate what you have done. You stepped into a situation
and you're not getting one dime out of doing it. I do know that as well.
Mr. Echevarria: Sure (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We all know that. I just -- it just really important if the
Commissioner -- any of us have any questions about it, that we should be able to ask the
questions and you not -- and you --
Mr. Echevarria: Andl don't have a problem with questions.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Andl know. And you should not get upset about us asking the
questions because at the end of the day, Commissioner Carollo, like myself and like
Commissioner Gort, we all have constituents that we have to answer to.
Mr. Echevarria: I understand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And every time this comes on --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, I have constituents too.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- the second and third Thursday of the month, people are
watching it at home, and then we get off the dais and we get a million and one phone calls about
it. So he's just doing his job for the people that he works for, just like you did it when you were
in office. We understand. We get it. All we want to do is get the numbers and understand that
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what's actually happening from the standpoint of what you've been able to raise. And if -- guess
what, if you falling short on it, then we have to make a decision on falling short on the
commitment, but --
Mr. Echevarria: We're not falling short.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I don't want you to feel that -- right. But I'm just saying, if that
is the insinuation, for whatever reason, then we communicate that and then we keep it moving.
Mr. Echevarria: But we have not falling short.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But I don't --
Mr. Echevarria: Let me make that very clear.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. But don't -- but what don't want you to do, you know,
not only in the presence of all of us in here, but the people watching at home, to see the two of
you guys going at it when you're both are only trying to do the right thing. You understand?
Mr. Echevarria: I understand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So just -- if there's some questions or issues or concerns, provide
the Commissioner with the documents, like I asked you -- and you know I gave you a hard time
when we sat down. I was letting you have it, right? But as time went on, you know -- it's been
just this week I've gotten softer on this issue, okay. But as time goes on, I'm asking for the
information; just give me the data so that we can make an intelligent decision, and that's the only
thing my colleague is asking you --
Mr. Echevarria: That is not a problem.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- the same thing that you did when you sat on the dais.
Mr. Echevarria: And I stated that I was going to do it, that --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Echevarria: -- that was not an issue.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right.
Mr. Echevarria: We don't have nothing -- this is transparent --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I understand.
Mr. Echevarria: -- process. I have an issue when we're questioning -- questions that been asked
that we -- if we -- we've raised half a million dollars. It's very simple. It took me a year before
this body here, City government, was able to prepare a final document that could be brought to
this Commission.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Can --
Mr. Echevarria: I'm just saying. And it took us a year to get a 501(c)3. But you know what?
Some 20-some people already donated money. Monies are coming in and they will continue to
come in. I made a commitment we will raise half a million dollars. We will raise half a million
dollars. You could take that to the bank.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. And -- so, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: This item's been tabled till --
Chair Suarez: Yes, it's going to be --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- 3 o'clock?
Chair Suarez: -- tabled till 2 p.m.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Two p.m.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And Commissioner Carollo, hopefully during this break we can
get the information that we need on this issue and we can talk about it further than, you know --
you won't be able to be here, but hopefully your representatives will. We just have to be cordial
with each other on --
Mr. Echevarria: IfI may, I may be wrong, but believe our accountant department provided the
City the latest --
Margaret Lake: Good morning, Commissioners. I'm happy to --
Chair Suarez: Your name and address for the record.
Ms. Lake: -- be here again.
Chair Suarez: Name and address for the record, ma'am, please.
Ms. Lake: Margaret Lake, executive director of Gusman Center. The financials that you
provided were actually some projections that we did at the very beginning of the year. I'm going
to be really honest with you about the situation. Transitioning this theater (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
the Parking Authority, 35 years worth of vendors, files, all of the above. We didn't start in May;
we started October 1. So October 1 everybody's got the news that we've got this 50] (c)3. My
assistant director and I, first quarter, increased the business by 75 percent. So we're pulling our
stuff out of you know, the Parking Authority, transitioning the venue, operating a 501(c)3; didn't
have a bookkeeper on board till two weeks ago. We've got all of our financials in order, but I
will tell you, for myself being at the Gusman for five years, it's kind of a miracle what we've
pulled off.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. Margaret, I --
Ms. Lake: And I'm not saying --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I under --
Ms. Lake: -- that that doesn't mean that you don't need your data. I -- we're absolutely clear
that that's what you need.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. And all I'm saying to you, Margaret -- 'cause we can go
back and forth. And now you got up to the mike and you made it very clear that they were
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projections --
Ms. Lake: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- you know, in the beginning --
Ms. Lake: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and what you really have -- because you just got a CPA on
board just recently, you're pulling all of the numbers and stuff
Ms. Lake: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- together, so that would explain every time I asked a question --
what's the numbers, where are we with the dollars, what's the financial statements -- that didn't
really get a clear answer on that andl think that that was a part of the communication that has
been missed. But Herman --
Mr. Echevarria: Our board of director was brought with a financial statements as of -- what day
was it? -- March 31. We were going to get a copy of those financial statements and we're going
to provide each and every one of you a copy of those financial statements. Because we're now --
as I stated before, we have an in-house accountant and outside auditors and we've been able to
get all the documentation from the Parking Authority, 30 years of operation, all of that in to us,
so we will get you a copy of what we have.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thankyou.
Mr. Echevarria: As of the 31 st, that was brought to our board and that's exactly what all of us
have received. Thankyou.
Chair Suarez: Yes. Commissioner Gort, then Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Gort: Good morning. Mr. Echevarria, one of the problems we have when we
have the private sector trying to do a joint venture with the government makes it very difficult,
but you've been here before. You were an elected official. Unfortunately, you know, in the
private sector you make a decision; that's it. You do it and you implement it. In here we have to
answer -- you have yourself. We have, I think it's 500,000 (UNINTELLIGIBLE), people that tell
us what to do or ask us what to do. All this is not any doubt on you, what you're doing; on the
contrary. I think what you guys are doing, what the private sector's doing, and how we working
with the private sector is excellent. At the same time, you heard (UNINTELLIGIBLE). That's
something that happens quite a lot here. So all these discussions are very important --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- so people can see --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Transparency.
Commissioner Gort: -- transparency, what's going on, so it's nothing personal against -- about
you or your board of director. This question that we want to make sure later on when the news
comes out tomorrow, they get the right information, that they understand that you are doing the
right things and we are doing the right things.
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner, I have no problem with that.
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Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Gort: I just wanted to clarify that.
Mr. Echevarria: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. --
Commissioner Gort: And we appreciate what you guys are doing, believe me.
Mr. Echevarria: Appreciate it. Thankyou.
Commissioner Carollo: Thankyou, Mr. Chairman. Andl echo those sentiments, I really do, Mr.
Echevarria. Andl can surely tell you, I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm not trying to
give anyone a hard time. However, you know, I have to do my due diligence. Some of the
questions that I'm asking is not necessarily questioning you or this and that. I mean, some of
these things were mentioned on the record and, in all fairness, it's part of what your next year's
budget is going to be, and there's -- you've already said there's a discrepancy from the numbers
that have to what you believe are the numbers so I need to verify that. You know, something
that we haven't even touched upon is this $500, 000 or the monies from the murals actually going
to capital or is it going to the operations? Two separate issues. Because if it's going to the
operations, then guess what, you need to raise another X' nillions of dollars from what has been
stated for capital, so all these questions become very important. Andl -- the last thingl want to
end with and one thing that want to point out, the amount of money that -- andl'm going on
memory once again, so I apologize -- the City was originally putting into the Gusman was
approximately $300, 000, okay, and various elected officials says we are not going to be putting
$300, 000 anymore to the Gusman; therefore, it may have to close. I was not one of those elected
officials, but it was said. And we jointly made a decision, which I voted for, that your
organization would do a 501 (c)3, would raise the money, and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Now
something that was not mentioned before is this mural, and this mural's going to actually bring
in $500,000, much more than what the City was originally putting in, so that is one of the
reasons that, you know, I'm question, I'm seeing where the money's going to; is it going to
capital? Is it going to the operations? Can some of that go to the general fund?
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Exactly.
Mr. Echevarria: -- I can assure you that when I came before you -- andl'm going to repeat
myself again once and for all, I guess -- I said, phase one is us, phase two is different, and phase
-- there's different alternatives here and different ways to raise -- million and a half, two million
dollars, it needs to be raised, in addition, to keep this place. Because the reason you were going
to close the Gusman is because you only had 25 percent occupancy. You know why? Because
the place is a dump. That's the reason why you had to close it down. And in order to make this
place what it takes, it takes more than $500, 000.
Chair Suarez: And let me just say one thing because I think you guys are almost speaking past
each other. I think he wants more specificity andl think --
Mr. Echevarria: No. I -- and we will. I mean, that's (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: Right. Andl think what you're saying is that you may not have that specificity
right now or that, you know, maybe you can set up a priority structure where, for example --
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where you have a priority structure where maybe you say first the money that you generate is
going to go to operations because you need to keep the place open and then whatever additional
revenue, in addition to the operational losses, will go to capital.
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioner, let me say this. IfI bring in three, four new people in because
are needed -- right now we don't have a marketing director --
Chair Suarez: Right.
Mr. Echevarria: -- we don't have a business development director. We don't have any of those
things that are needed that any other theater of that needs it. My operational cost goes up
another 2, $300, 000. So for me to say here to you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) specific about -- it'll be
irresponsible. I did say when I came here the first time that $500, 000 was just initial to maintain
it open, that's it; that we needed additional revenue. And when we left here five years later, us
private sector, and allow other board members to take over -- because I don't plan to stay here
for a long time, all right, 'cause I got other things to do in my life, okay -- I saidl want to leave
the infrastructure in place that is going to keep this place open for years to come. That was my
statement before this Commission and that's what we're trying to do.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Mr. Echevarria: Now any documentation --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Mr. Echevarria: -- we'll be more than happy to provide.
Chair Suarez: Mr. Vice Chair, you're recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I sat pretty quietly here. Gusman is in my district. I think everybody -- I
think only the Mayor andl were here, pretty much, when we watched Gusman pretty much close
its door or come very, very close to closing its door. Now a guy from Brooklyn, Jewish guy from
Brooklyn and a Cuban guy from Hialeah sat down with each other - not with all these -- that
much culturally [sic] similarities, but with one desire: to save the Gusman. And he came to the
Mayor, he came to me. The Mayor andl looked at each other -- andl think it was '010 [sic] --
we knew pretty much, budgetarily, we did not want to fund the Gusman because we knew that we
were in a crisis. You know, what you do and how you start to act is projections, so we projected
not funding the Gusman. We delivered that news to the Gusman board. I think it was probably
the only time the Mayor andl were pretty much -- I don't think we were booed, Mr. Mayor, but
we weren't exactly met with applause. And Mr. Echevarria comes and gives us a plan. Now I
have yet to see anyone in the City ofMiami -- we have certainly spoken a little bit about Marine
Stadium. They've done a nice job. But I've yet to meet a man who puts $50,000 of his own
money, and as far as I know -- andl have asked him six ways to Sunday, how are you profiting
from this. And there simply is no way he's profiting from this, other than maybe a place in
heaven for him is being made a little bit wider and a little bit larger. Another 49 guys are
coming up with $50, 000. If I'm not mistaken, Sergio Rock --
Mr. Echevarria: Did 100, 000.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- did $100, 000 simply because he came to me --
Mr. Echevarria: And I'll say some names so that we know. Wayne Chaplin from Southern Wine
did 50,000, Micky Arison did 50,000, Paul Cejas did 50,000, Gonzalo Morales did 50,000.
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These are all friends of mine. You know why they did it, because I asked them to do so; because
they believed in me. Andl can go on and on with these names. Jeff Berkowitz last week, Pedro
Martin from Terra, last week, andl can go on and on and on. And I'm saying -- I'm not -- listen,
the reason I'm saying names -- 'cause I'm not even supposed to do that because I've not asked
them permission, but they're friends; I can do it. These are people that did not have to do this
and many others that I, you know, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) name. So thank you, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Sarnoff And let me just say this. The Gusman has three problems. It's got a huge
capital problem that nobody's been able to get a grip on. Andl think the Mayor will remember
this. We were approached by Richard J. Heisenbottle and we were asked to put, I think,
$300, 000 -- I may have my number wrong -- from the MSEA (Miami Sports & Exhibition
Authority), ifI remember, to pin [sic] in place -- is that right, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Yes, Mr. Vice Chair, $300, 000 from MSEA given to Miami Parking
Authority because the place was falling down. The --
Vice Chair Sarnoff The brick facade.
Mayor Regalado: -- from -- the bricks --
Commissioner Carollo: As a loan.
Mayor Regalado: -- and the facade at the building and of the side of the Gusman. There was a
-- the apartment building and on the side of the Gusman, and that was given to MPA (Miami
Parking Authority). Remember, GOB (General Obligation Bond) bonds from Miami, from
approval in 2001, were used at the tune of $7 million for the renovation in 2003, 2004 also. And
I just want to say for the record that the Vice Chair and myself, we had a very embarrassing
morning that morning that we went to the board and told them that the City was not going to be
able to fund the Gusman and they were not happy. And this happened after then Manager
Carlos Migoya told us that we had a problem; that we had a problem where we have to reduce
the salaries of the employees and pensions and benefits and probably fire one-third of the
population, the working population in the City ofMiami. And the response that you andl had is
that the Gusman was going to close and it was going to be closed because they can't -- they were
unable to operate. And this is when I asked Herman to meet with you and me and start the
conversation, andl know he is emotional about the things he does. Andl have to say, even if he
walks out, he'll still be my friend and -- but, you know, he has put a lot of hours, and it's a shame
to see the Gusman closed and --
Mr. Echevarria: Thank you.
Mayor Regalado: So that's why this private/public partnership is important.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So let me just kind of wrap this around something because, obviously, I
became Commissioner in what thought was a rehabilitated Gusman. He probably became the
caretaker of what he might have said how much money you guys spend, for what, for which.
What did that do for this amount of money? And by the way, I sit there in amazement hearing $7
million went into this. I sit here in amazement 300,000 went into this. Because like Mr.
Echevarria, I'm curious to make this building whole, to make this building functional, and then
maybe a little bit beyond functional because he's got a point. And just so you all know this, the
load in and the load out for the Gusman, which means how you put a play in there, how you put
a production in there -- andl know Commissioner Spence -Jones know more about this than I --
is extremely inefficient. That means it takes them days what the Performing Arts Center could do
in hours. So you're going to hear from him at some point, the back of the house needs to be
expanded andl need more property in the back so I can have an efficient load in/loud out. Now,
you know, we would love to have his immense plan in front of us right here, right now so we can
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sit here and say this, this, and this, but it's never going to be until a person comes to us that we
all respect and says this is what it's going to take to do phase one. This is what it's going to do to
take phase two, and phase three is a state-of-the-art facility. And then it's going to take Herman
Echevarria and his board to say we 're going to have a phase three because we can't compete, we
can't even be a production facility in downtown Miami unless we are the art form we need. So
let me just -- and I'll close. I'm the Commissioner of the district. I've sat here. I've listened. I
can tell you this. I've never seen an outpouring, andl don't know that the Mayor has either,
more than when we were considering closing the Gusman. How many people came here? This
-- there was an outpour. There is a love for the Gusman. And let me tell you, we're not the first
folks up here to restrict what happened to the Gusman. Had we allowed Sylvester Stallone to do
what he wanted to do, we wouldn't be facing some of the issues that we're facing right now
because a placid or nonaggressive Commission couldn't find the will, that iron will that you
sometimes need to be an elected official, to allow the private sector to do what it needs to do.
Now let me just close by saying this. I said something to you in 2008. There's something called
the new normal. Economy is getting better but it's not changed. You have to find a way to have
public/private partnerships with businesses that you never had before because no government,
regardless of whether it's going to be Barack Obama or Romney after November, whoever it's
going to be, is going to be facing -- they're not going to be supporting the arts and culture as
they have done before. There's got to be a way to find a profit center to allow this to go on. And
by the way, that's true of the Gusman, that will be true of the Marine Stadium, and that is
especially true for the Coconut Grove Playhouse. If you all think government is going to
subsidize your ticket so it's $60 to go there, you're all sadly mistaken because to -- really, what
that ticket should cost you is probably around $210 to $220 if you're going to have an equity
Playhouse. So I just ask the Commissioners to keep it in their minds and keep it in their hearts.
This is a new day. It's a new normal. And if you're going to find a way for these facilities to stay
open, you've got to create profit centers for them -- not for us; for them -- to stay open and create
a ticket price so that everyone and every district can afford to go there and experience culture.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Gort and then Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Gort: Vice Chairman, I'd just like to remind you that the expansion of their
backstage, it was discussed back in 1996.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I think we all got the point. The only thing that I just really would
like to add on this issue -- and Commissioner Sarnoff, you know, I totally agree with a lot of
things that you said this afternoon andl think we all agree sitting up here that we cannot do this
alone; that it needs to be private partnerships in all that we do, so I don't think that anyone's not
clear on this. I think that -- at the same time, I think that it's also important if you do have a
distribute Commissioner on the dais that has concerns about the numbers, it is our responsibility
to get those answers and it is the responsibility of the individual that's coming in front of this City
Commission to provide us with what we need. There should not be any feeling of you know,
anybody feeling like they should not be questioned or asked about anything, andl think that that
was the issue with Commissioner Carollo. He should have the right to ask the question.
Mr. Echevarria: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And then -- and in response, you should be able to provide the
information. I do want to say this, Commissioner Sarnoff. In this particular instance, outside of
Commissioner Gort, I was the veteran Commissioner sitting on the dais from the very beginning
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regarding the whole Gusman, andl can tell you every single year -- and Art Noriega is standing
in the back -- there was always a ringing of the bell that the Gusman was going to close, always,
okay. So, you know, on that instance, you know, I don't want to put a lot of emphasis -- I have
some concerns with how the process took place, but it is what it is and we're right in the the
middle of it and we're going to support, you know, Herman 'cause he has the building at this
point. But the Gusman itself even though it is in one particular person's district, it is a City of
Miami building. That means Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner Gort, Commissioner Suarez,
and myself, we all have a responsibility because the building itself, while it sits in someone's
district, is owned by the City. It is a City piece of property that we all have a vested interest in
knowing what happens with it, just as we do with the James L. Knight, just as we do with any
other facility, like Bayfront Park. And I understand -- perhaps from Commissioner Carollo's
standpoint, he sits on the Bayfront Park amphitheater. He see shows and events coming through
there all the time so I'm sure in his mind he's also equating some of these numbers and some of
these experiences with your experience, so we have to respect his viewpoint. Andl think that to
see how -- I'm just going to say -- ugly it got in just this last 45 minutes wasn't really necessary,
especially when all he was doing is asking a question. So with that being said, Mr. Chairman,
we -- this item we're going to take up later anyway. And the item is about the mural, but I would
like to have the numbers now that Margaret has explained to us what exactly we have. That
gives me a greater understanding of what it is.
Mr. Echevarria: But I will tell you this, Commissioner. We will try to get our accountants to
give us update financials and we'll show it to you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No problem.
Mr. Echevarria: This is nothing to --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No problem.
Chair Suarez: Here's what we're going to do.
Mr. Echevarria: I will not be here at 3 o'clock, unfortunate.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But somebody --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: Have a good trip.
Mr. Echevarria: Margaret will be here.
Chair Suarez: We're actually going to table this until 2 p.m.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Then we're going to -- then the Commissioner has a discussion item he wants to
talk about and then we're going to have at 3: 30 the PACE (Property Assessment Clean Energy)
item is going to be set for a time certain as well.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What is the 2 o'clock item? I mean, what's the item that
Commissioner Sarnoff wants to talk --? Is it a pocket item or --?
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Chair Suarez: No, no, no. It's one of his discussion items. He wants to talk about it now rather
than at the end of the Commission meeting.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. What -- I'm just --
Chair Suarez: It's --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Blue page on police hiring.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, police, okay.
Mr. Echevarria: Commissioners, thank you very much.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: And Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: Just one last thing. This is first reading also so --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: That's right.
Commissioner Carollo: -- you know, realistically, there is going to be --
Chair Suarez: There's wiggle room.
Commissioner Carollo: -- enough time -- yeah, exactly.
Chair Suarez: Wiggle room, yeah.
[Later...]
Chair Suarez: We're now going to go to our 2 o'clock item, continuation of the discussion on the
signs on City -owned property, FR. 3. Let the Administration --
Unidentified Speaker: Okay, go ahead.
Chair Suarez: -- go first and then we'll go from there.
Commissioner Carollo: This is -- I'm sorry -- SR. 3?
Chair Suarez: No, this is FR.3.
Commissioner Carollo: FR.3.
Chair Suarez: FR.3 is -- we tabled it till 2.
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Henry Torre: Good afternoon, Henry Torre, director of Public Facilities. FR.3 is an ordinance
of the Miami City Commission, amending Chapter 2, Article 9 of the code, as amended, entitled
Administration/City-owned Property,'by creating Section 2-779, entitled Signs on City -owned
Property, 'to remit the placement of outdoor advertising signs on City ofMiami-owned property,
subject to the approval of the City Manager and the director of Planning & Zoning. I think prior
to going to some questions, ifI can just briefly outline what the financial impact of this will have
on the City. We are projecting a $430, 000 a year will come to the City if this project does go
through. The breakdown for that is $250, 000 in fees that we will receive from the James L.
Knight Center in cooperation with a partnership that we will do with a signage company who
will front all the costs of the sign, which is estimated to be anywhere from 3 to $400, 000, no
expense. The City will not contribute to that. And we will share in the gross revenues, 50/50,
projected to be 500, 000, so our share would be 250, 000. The remaining $180, 000 will come
from annual permit fees associated to all three signs on these properties.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Any questions of him before we go -- we keep going or do you want
to ask him any questions?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah, real quick.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are we --
Commissioner Carollo: Can --?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- taking public comments on this or --?
Chair Suarez: Yeah. This is --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: -- it's an ordinance.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I don't want to get -- I want to hear the public first.
Chair Suarez: Let's do that. We can do that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Do you want to hear the public first --
Chair Suarez: Is that okay?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- to see at least what they have to say first, Joe?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: It doesn't matter to me. Since he was up, I was just going to ask him to
be --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh.
Commissioner Carollo: -- more specific on the three different locations because it's --
Mr. Torre: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: -- because there are three different locations, correct?
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Mr. Torre: The three specific locations are --
Commissioner Carollo: In each, what amount of monies and --?
Mr. Torre: Okay. The James L. Knight Center is a city -owned property. We do have site control
so we do control the property. The other two properties are -- one is the Miami Children's
Museum, which is a city -owned property, but is on a long-term lease. The second property is the
Gusman/Olympia Theater, which the theater is now being managed and before the board in two
weeks will come up with the management agreement for the apartments and the commercial
retail space.
Commissioner Carollo: And then as far as the breakup of the funding or the revenues or
potential revenues?
Mr. Torre: Potential revenues --
Commissioner Carollo: Because you said 50 percent of --
Mr. Torre: Fifty percent, yes.
Commissioner Carollo: But not all three locations.
Mr. Torre: Not all three locations. That's --
Commissioner Carollo: Can you be a little bit more specific for the record?
Mr. Torre: Absolutely, absolutely. I apologize. For the James L. Knight Center, the property
that we own and we have site control of we would do a partnership with an outside media
company who would pay all expenses related to the sign, a 1200-square foot sign; estimate on
that is somewhere between 3 to $400,000. The City would bear no cost of that, no contribution.
Chair Suarez: And this would be procured by an RFP process, correct?
Mr. Torre: Correct, correct. The revenue split on that would be 50/50 gross --
Commissioner Carollo: Fifty/fifty gross.
Mr. Torre: -- of gross revenue, fifty percent to the City. The other two properties, the number of
the $430, 000 includes -- the 180, 000, in essence, includes an average permitting fee --
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Henry?
Mr. Torre: -- per year that we will receive for each one of those signs. That does not include
anything that we can negotiate from the Miami Children's Museum if we can or the Gusman
Center to share in that revenue.
Mr. Martinez: Henry.
Mr. Torre: And the 50/50 split is a minimum. That is something we may ask for more.
Mr. Martinez: That was it. I just wanted to get out the50/50 is the floor --
Mr. Torre: Right.
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Mr. Martinez: -- and people will bid to go above that. We will choose whoever has the greatest
return to the City.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, so just for clarity. The James L. Knight Center is -- they have to
pay the permit fee --
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: -- which will be approximately?
Mr. Torre: Roughly $60,000 a year.
Commissioner Carollo: Sixty thousand. Plus, in addition to that, it will be 50 percent of gross --
Mr. Torre: At a minimum.
Commissioner Carollo: -- at a minimum, which will come to the general funds of the City.
Mr. Torre: Correct. Both the 250 and the 60 would come from the James L. Knight Center.
Roughly $310, 000 associated --
Commissioner Carollo: From the James L. Knight Center?
Mr. Torre: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: To the general fund?
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Now, when you say 250, why? Are you estimating $500, 000?
Mr. Torre: They had estimated, based on the traffic and the advertisers, that they could get --
separating it over, changing the sign every eight, ten, twelve seconds. So on an average, on a
conservative number, we did come up with the 500. It may be more.
Commissioner Carollo: Or it could be less.
Mr. Torre: Well, it's a very conservative number, but we're very comfortable with the total of
500, 000. Could be anywhere from maybe 450 to 6, $700,000.
Commissioner Carollo: Who came up with the estimate?
Mr. Torre: This was -- the estimate came from Deaf Media, which is a national provider. This
was an RFP done by Global Spectrum, who is the management company of the James L. Knight
Center. They will, by the way, share in none of these revenues. They went out and did an RFP.
The RFP, obviously, we're not going to go through --
Alice Bravo (Assistant City Manager): I'm sorry to interrupt, but the RFP he's referring to was
actually for a point of sale sign only.
Commissioner Gort: Who are you?
Ms. Bravo: So this --
Commissioner Gort: Who are you?
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Chair Suarez: Ms. Bravo.
Ms. Bravo: Oh, Alice Bravo, assistant City Manager. Sony. The previous procurement
conducted by Global Spectrum was for a point of sale sign, so since this sign would be open to
all advertisement, it would certainly hope to yield additional revenue beyond what was estimated
for the point of sale sign.
Commissioner Carollo: And you're saying since they already went through a RFP process that
the company has been identified already?
Ms. Bravo: Well, we would redo the procurement process since this would be -- not be a point of
sale sign and this would be full advertisement. We think that that triggers a need for a new
procurement since it's substantially different in scope.
Commissioner Carollo: And the 250 is just based on estimates?
Ms. Bravo: Their bid or estimate from point of sale perspective. So this augments the revenue
potential.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. Now that's James L. Knight Center so it has got a potential of
what, 250, plus another 60?
Mr. Torre: Plus 60, correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Three ten, more or less?
Mr. Torre: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: And that will go -- be going to the general fund?
Mr. Torre: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. Can we go to the next one, Gusman andMiami Children's
Museum?
Mr. Torre: Yeah, Gusman andMiami Children's Museum, at this point we're estimating $60, 000
for the permit fees. Obviously, if this does go through, we will go through the process of
negotiating with both parties to see if the City can contribute in some of the earnings.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Got you. So what you're saying is that any revenues would stay with the
institution?
Mr. Torre: We would have to negotiate that, Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But the way --
Mr. Torre: The number I gave you --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- that it's being proposed now, that's basically what he's wanting
to hear. What he's asking is no -- none of the revenue, period, outside of the permitting fees, for
those two facilities are coming back to the City.
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Mr. Torre: We have not negotiated that yet.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, but based upon what's in the paperwork that you guys have
given us.
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, that's what -- the answer is no revenue.
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: But I just want to say 'cause I think what he's saying is that we're going to get the
$60, 000 permit fee, but we have the opportunity to also negotiate for more money.
Mr. Torre: Correct.
Chair Suarez: I think that's what he's saying.
Commissioner Carollo: But why haven't we done so already?
Mr. Torre: I think it's early in the process. It's -- we're trying to get this approved and then we'll
go back --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah. See --
Mr. Torre: -- once it's approved.
Commissioner Carollo: -- that -- I sort of disagree -- respectfully disagree --
Mr. Torre: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: -- when you say it's early in the process. No. If it's coming to a vote,
you know, we got to justify our vote. So I think that all this should have been done before coming
to us because -- andl -- and listen, this is anything -- I'm not trying to blindside you.
Mr. Torre: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm not -- you all knew we already had issues, and at least I did, with
regards to some of these revenues. And we could get about, you know, the locations and all that,
you know, later on. But you know, specifically speaking about revenues, it seems like we're
getting, let's say, the lion's share from one facility; and the other two, we're getting a permit fee
of you know, $60, 000. Is it possible to negotiate? Have you reached out? Has there been
communications already?
Mr. Torre: We have had some preliminary conversations. And let me note that the one property
that we're getting $310, 000 is a property that we own and we have site control. The other two
properties are leased.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay, I understand. But we could still --
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Mr. Torre: Absolutely, yes.
Commissioner Carollo: -- negotiate.
Mr. Torre: We could still negotiate.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, Commissioner Sarnoff has always says [sic], we don't negotiate
from the dais. But anyways, can we break these properties up -- I mean, I know we're voting it as
a whole, all three, but is it a possibility or -- since we're changing an ordinance that includes
three properties, is it possible? I mean --
Chair Suarez: The other option is -- this is a first reading so -- I mean, we can --
Commissioner Carollo: Understood.
Chair Suarez: -- do it from first to second readings.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And Mr. Chairman, I think we -- I know I have a ton of things that
I want to talk about, but I think it's also important to hear from the people --
Chair Suarez: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- first --
Chair Suarez: One hundred percent.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- because there might be something else that comes out that we
have not seen --
Chair Suarez: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- or we have -- we don't realize that then I think that we can ask
you intelligent questions, additional intelligent questions.
Chair Suarez: Hundred percent in agreement.
Mr. Torre: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So can we hear from the --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- public on this issue?
Chair Suarez: Let's do it. We're going to open up the public record on FR.3. Anyone from the
public or anyone with an interest wishing to speak on FR.3, speak now or forever hold your
peace.
Commissioner Gort: He wants to speak.
Chair Suarez: He wants to get in on the action.
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Commissioner Gort: Give him the mike.
Ralph Patino: My name is Ralph Patino. I am the co-chair of the Olympia Center, Inc., with
Herman Echevarria and Mr. Trueba, Carlos Trueba. I want to address certain issues that were
addressed this morning in a little bit more calm fashion and that is, first of all, the American
League of Theaters, which it dominates nationally, says that 225 nights per year equal a
significant impact to the downtown business districts all over the United States. I think that that
is what -- Commissioner Carollo, that is what you're here about. That is what I am here about.
Commissioner Spence -Jones, that is what you're here about and that is what all of us are here
about. We want to see the downtown area of the City ofMiami prosper and grow. The last 35
years the City ofMiami has had the Gusman Center. We want to have -- we want to celebrate
100 years and we have to create infrastructure. In order to do that, both Herman Echevarria,
myself, Carlos Trueba, and all the individuals which he mentioned today have stepped up, put up
their $10,000 and their additional $40, 000 commitment to the point where it's not $140,000 that
we have managed to get commitments for in the last six months because that's as long as we've
had control of this theater, not one year, but only six months. In six months we have $140, 000 in
cash as donations. In addition to that, we have booked probably about 50 percent more than the
City had in the last three previous years. And in addition to that, we have another $600, 000 in
future commitments and every month we are getting two to three more commitments from
hard-working folks that care for the City ofMiami, that care for downtown and that care, believe
it or not, for this Commission to look good in its decision, in its decision to have allowed a
private/public partnership, so to speak. Now, with respect to this whole situation involving the
signage on the building, I spoke to, on our break, Robin Jones Jackson. She is your bond
counsel. There is a bond facility on this building of 2 to $3 million, which predates October of
2010 -- 2011, which was the month that we took it over. That bond facility has been in place for
years. Guess what, guys? We're arguing over nothing or we're concerned over nothing because
any excess monies have to go back to pay that bond facility before anyone sees a profit, before
the City can take the money, and this is part of the bond. This is written in the bond. With
respect to the actual monies themselves, bottom line is our books are open. . No one is going to
take monies and put them in the operating account and do something unwise with the money. In
fact, the building itself needs about $7 million of capital improvements before we can even install
this mesh to become the signage. And Commissioner Jones [sic], we cannot do anything with
the signage until $7 million are spent. The City paid $300, 000 to peg the actual concrete that
was falling off and if you recall -- you voted on this -- the City paid $300, 000 to peg the concrete
onto the wall and put a wire mesh around it so that pedestrians wouldn't be hit with falling
debris. In order for us to do the signage now, we have to unmesh those -- the facade of the
actual theater and then proceed to fix it and it's going to take about seven million bucks. We've
had estimates up to $20 million. This is a historical building.
Chair Suarez: Sir, I'm going to need you to please conclude.
Mr. Patino: Yes. The bottom line -- thank you -- is that we are acting in good faith. We, as a
board of directors, are doing our best to get as much money as possibly can in order to repair the
building owned by the people of the City ofMiami. Thank you very much.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir. Next speaker. Whoever needs to speak on this, I implore you to
come up to the --
Mariano Cruz: Okay.
Chair Suarez: -- plate before I close the public hearing. Go ahead, Mr. Cruz.
Mr. Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 Northwest 26th Street. I've been here in Miami since 1962 andl
remember the Olympia. Not only the Olympia in downtown Flagler, in Miami theater, the
Florida theater, everything. When Flagler stay open Monday night and Friday night, Burdines,
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McCrory, you name all the places, and there was a lot of people living downtown. You remember
that, Willy. You were there. All the little retirement hotels (UNINTELLIGIBLE), the Granada, all
the people walk there to downtown. Downtown, it stay open. Now it coming back, but we need
place -- I remember I took my children there to see the Ten Commandments, Ben Hur, to sit at the
Olympia. I like to see the Olympia. And I was -- I am in the Bonds Advisory Board. We give
that money, that $300, 000, to fix -- it was given by the City. And you know, maybe we can do
like -- when I drive on 17th Avenue south, I look at the Marlins stadium, but then I see Pepsi,
Marlins, Miccosukkee, private/public partnership maybe, unless we get somebody like Philip
Cross or Jorge Perez that donate 35, 40 billion that will be nice, right. I don't care what name
they got as long as they -- we get the money to fix it, okay. But ifI was Herman Echevarria, the
way he was treated here this morning, I say, you go and get the people to get the money because
it was unfair what they did to him here this morning.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Cruz.
Mr. Cruz: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Next.
Peter Ehrlich: Good afternoon, Chairman Suarez, Commissioners, Mr. Mayor -- I guess he's
upstairs -- Commissioner Sarnoff. My name is Peter Ehrlich. My address is 770 Northeast 69th
Street, in Miami. In addition to being a resident and a taxpayer, I'm a founder of Scenic Miami.
I strongly object to this proposed legislation and ask you to vote no. It's a terrible idea to add
visual pollution in its worst element, LED (Light Emitting Diode) billboards, to our beautiful
city. Visual pollution and LED billboards are horrible problems and they're being fought
nationwide. Many of you might be familiar with Scenic America, which is a national
organization that fights billboards, LED billboards and visual pollution. When we reviewed the
legislation in the handout material, we noticed the City did not include any studies describing
how the billboards affect neighborhoods and communities and how they -- and also how they will
reduce property values. There's some academic studies that show that properties within vicinities
of billboards, LED billboards, are reduced in value. I have several handouts. There's an article
from the esteemed owner and publisher ofMiami Today, Michael Lewis, and just to quote a
couple lines from Michael Lewis, who speaks so eloquently. In Miami, whose image is palms
rather than a greedy urban core, expansion of multi -story advertising harms not only the
environment in which we all choose to live but the city scape we present to visitors from around
the globe. Bluntly, nobody visits Miami to see how much we are like the cities they're
vacationing from. Nobody buys a condo here to be in Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Nobody invests
in a business here to have it surrounded by urban advertising blight. So as government opens its
doors wider and wider to multi -story wall commercials, it closes them a bit to visitors,
investment, and jobs. The pittance that Miami City government gets from walled billboard
licensing can't begin to make up long-term losses in image and positioning around the world.
Thank you very much for your time. Please vote no.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Mr. Commissioner.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Ehrlich, can you leave copies of those studies that show that buildings
are diminished in value, where those buildings are located, in what cities?
Mr. Ehrlich: Yes. It's on the Scenic America web site.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Could you --
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Mr. Ehrlich: I'll be happy to give you a copy.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- would you leave it here so we can have copies so we can look at them?
Mr. Ehrlich: Yes.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Thanks.
Chair Suarez: And you know, the other thing I was going to say is, you know, you made a point
about it impacting neighborhoods, but -- and this is something we talked about in our meeting
prior to the Administration advancing this agenda item. There -- the three locations do not have
a neighborhood. There's no neighborhoods around the three locations. There's not one around
the Children's Museum, there's not one around the James L. Knight, and there's not really one
along the Olympia, so I just wanted to clam that also for the record.
Mr. Ehrlich: Well, that would be debatable. The downtown has tens of thousands of new
residents, residential residents, and who will be affected by billboards and murals ads downtown.
And any mural ad on the Watson Island in the Children's Museum will be visible to the
neighborhoods, Venetian Causeway, Palm and Hibiscus Islands, Star Island, and really anybody
driving the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Causeway.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So it's your contention a billboard or a mural or whatever like to call it on
the Children's Museum would affect somebody's property value on Venetian Island?
Mr. Ehrlich: I believe it would be negatively affect all the property on Watson Island.
Vice Chair Sarnoff No, no, no. You said a moment ago that it would affect Venetian Island. Do
you have any study --
Commissioner Gort: How?
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- other than hyperbole?
Mr. Ehrlich: I'm going to -- I'll provide you with the academic study that was done so --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right. But you're drawing a conclusion that an island a couple of thousand
feet away will be affected. Have you drawn that conclusion yourself or do you have any kind of
data from any professional real estate person who has drawn that conclusion that is
credentialed?
Mr. Ehrlich: No. It's antidotal [sic] evidence from --
Vice Chair Sarnoff It's your conclusion.
Chair Suarez: It's your opinion.
Mr. Ehrlich: Yes, it is.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Thank you. Next speaker, please. I'm sorry. Oh, her. Yes.
Jennie Isom: My name is Jennie Isom. We live right in the vicinity of the Children's Museum, in
the closest neighborhoods. And you can see we have been great beneficiaries of the Children's
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Museum. We're there hours a week probably.
Chair Suarez: So you happen to be -- live in the vicinity and you think that this is actually a
benefit for you?
Ms. Isom: Yeah. You know, I -- the funding for the Children's Museum is huge. They provide
such wonderful programs andl think they need the funding to continue to do so.
Chair Suarez: Is it your opinion that it's going to negatively affect your property value?
Ms. Isom: No.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Isom: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Where do you live?
Ms. Isom: I live at 2000 North Bayshore, so just over the McArthur, in that closest
neighborhood right there.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Isom: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Ma'am, can you put your name and address on the record, please?
Ms. Isom: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: Oh, she has it? Okay, thank you. Next speaker.
Judith Sandoval: Judy Sandoval, 2536 Southwest 25th Terrace. I'm a resident, andl fully
support the testimony of Peter Ehrlich and even some of what Mauricio said. To take a slightly
different tact, I use taxis. I don't drive. And I go all over the City very often. And for months I
have been discussing this issue with taxi drivers who drive, who are on the roads all day long,
and they agreed that these sorts of signs are very distracting, even if they're on the side of the
Knight Center or wherever or downtown. These signs are vulgar, gross, ugly, andl think it is a
shame to do this and to put one on the side of the Children's Museum. You're supposed to limit
how much your kids can watch TV (Television). How much worse is it to set the example for
young children to be looking at this thing in a place that is really wonderful for them? And as
far as being able to put these signs on property anywhere, does that include on the swales in
front of our houses? This is much too lose, this law, and you should not approve it in the form
it's in today. Think of all the places these signs could go up in the future, and once you start
down that path -- I know the history of Clear Channel in Miami. Some of us have been fighting it
for years and it's not a good path to take. Now it took seven years for the Science Museum and
the Miami Art Museum, now named for its biggest donor, for the really big donors to
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) up, 35,000 (UNINTELLIGIBLE), the bells at the Science Museum. It's
going to take time to raise the funds for the Gusman. This committee has done a great job doing
what they've done. Now every man that's given money should tackle --
Chair Suarez: Ms. Sandoval, I'm going to need you to conclude.
Ms. Sandoval: -- ten of its friends.
Chair Suarez: I'm going to need you to conclude, please.
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Ms. Sandoval: So please vote against this as it is today presented.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Sandoval: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Thank you for your respect. Mr. Berkowitz, you're recognized.
Jeff Berkowitz: Good afternoon. My name is Jeff Berkowitz, with offices at 2665 South
Bayshore Drive, directly across the street. I am here in my capacity as the chairman of the
Miami Children's Museum. Parenthetically, I was watching your proceedings this morning andl
am one of the leading businessmen, as Herman Echevarria mentioned, who has paid my $10, 000
and who signed a very binding additional $40, 000 commitment for Gusman, andl applaud his
efforts. I got involved in the Miami Children's Museum over 25 years ago. I was originally from
Boston, and when I had my children, I took them to the Boston Children's Museum and it was a
fabulous experience and they were enthralled at that experience. Andl said, you know, Miami
needs a children's museum. So 25 years ago I started working to bring a children's museum to
Miami andl raised the first several million dollars for a children's museum. I solicited at the
time it was Barnett Bank. I solicited my partner, the Potamkins, and they stepped up with very
significant contributions. And for a number of years, as my children got older, I was not active
in the Children's Museum. And three years ago I got a call from Debbie Spiegelman saying, Jeff
we have a problem with the Children's Museum. We can't pay the mortgage. That's three years
ago. And she said, Jeff do you think you could go over to the City ofMiami and perhaps get
them to consider a loan or a grant so that this Children's Museum, this jewel within the City of
Miami, does not have to close its doors and does not face foreclosure like many of the residents
of our community? Andl said I'll do my best. And many of you, including the Mayor and the
MSEA Board, stepped up and gave the Children's Museum a grant in the amount of $400, 000,
which enabled this Children's Museum, this community gem, to survive another day. Well, in the
spirit of no -good -deed -goes -unpunished, I was asked ifI would consider chairing the Children's
Museum, which I agreed to do for a year three years ago. Andl said, my mission at that time
was to see if we could keep this institution alive for the benefit not of my children because they're
older, they've grown, but for the benefit of my grandchildren and for the benefit of their
grandchildren and for all of the residents of the City ofMiami, all of residents of Dade County,
and all the hundreds of thousands of tourists who visit the Miami Children's Museum every year.
Last year we had almost 400,000 children and their families. Excuse me; get this out of my way.
The Miami Children's Museum is built upon a piece of land which is owned by the City ofMiami.
The building on that land, almost $18 million worth, has been paid for with the assistance of
Dade County and by the generosity of hundreds and hundreds of individuals. It's a
public/private partnership between you all representing the City ofMiami and the Miami
Children's Museum. As part of our lease agreement, you provided that in consideration for you
allowing us to build a world -class facility, one of the best facilities -- one of the best Children's
Museum in the world on your land, that we would agree that City ofMiami residents would pay
half-price for admission. So if you live in Dade County, if you come down from New York or
over from London or in from Brazil, you pay $12 to enter the Children's Museum as an adult.
City ofMiami residents pay $6. Now what was the value of that contribution by the City -- I'm
sorry, by the Miami Children's Museum in the year 2011 ? One hundred and twenty thousand
dollars. In 2011, 19,996 citizens of the City ofMiami, your constituents, visited your Miami
Children's Museum for half-price. Now in addition to that, 16,000 people attended our
once -a -month Friday, free Fridays, where the museum is open without charge at all. In our
marketing efforts for those free Fridays are targeted at our inner cities. They're targeted at the
City ofMiami for people for whom that $6 for a family of six could be prohibitive. So last year
16,000 people attended once a month on a Friday night for free. Last year we conducted 1,500
field trips at the Museum, of which 300 were free. And by the way, when we -- when the City of
Miami graciously and MSEA graciously agreed to fund the $400, 000 grant that kept us alive,
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one of the conditions was that we provide free field trips to City ofMiami residents for equivalent
value and we did and we kept our part of the bargain. Nine hundred and eighty children
attended our camps. Over 200 of those weeks were free, with a value of 45, 000. The field trips
have a value of $525, 000. We have a fully subsidized after -school program serving 200 children
a day at Liberty City Elementary and at the Museum. Twenty thousand underserved children,
most of them from the City ofMiami, benefit from the Museum. The cost per visitor to the
Museum is approximately $21.40. At $12 admission for Dade County residents and $6
admission for City ofMiami residents, we lose money on that. Where do we make it up? We
make it up with grants, government grants, with corporate sponsorships, with galas. I'm here as
a volunteer today. Over the past three years since the Museum was about to default on its
mortgage, I personally have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Museum. Now
we're not here with our hat in our hand asking for another grant or for further relief or for a
further subsidy. We understand that the City has financial limitations, but we are here asking for
permission to put on our building, the building that we built with our funds, electronic signage.
Now we don't need to ask you for permission to put electronic signage on those buildings
because that's permitted today. It's permitted for on sale purposes. So, essentially, what this is
doing is it's giving --
Chair Suarez: Mr. Berkowitz.
Mr. Berkowitz: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Sorry to interrupt you. How much more time do you need? Just -- I know we
gave --
Mr. Berkowitz: I just need five minutes.
Chair Suarez: -- you know, we gave the Gusman a -- quite a bit of time between their two
presenters, so five more minutes?
Mr. Berkowitz: Five more minutes.
Chair Suarez: Five more minutes, please.
Mr. Berkowitz: You know, we -- our state funding has been cut. Our federal funding has been
cut. Our corporate giving has decreased. We cut our budget in 2011; our staff budget 20
percent. We're making this museum work. And I'm here asking you all to allow us to use our
building to generate significant recurring revenues to keep this museum flourishing. Our
museum's eight years old, eight and a half years old. The exhibits are beginning to tire and we're
going to have to renovate them. They're expensive to do so. We're existing in the middle of
mounds of dirt and dust. We're in the middle of a tunnel project at ground zero for the next three
or four years. The signage is going to help us get our message across, advertise our events. It's
going to assist us, based on the agreements we've signed, in telling people welcome to the City of
Miami as they leave Miami Beach and you're now leaving the City ofMiami; I hope you enjoyed
your stay, as they head over to Miami Beach. We have the ability to use that signage and to
direct it for people evacuating hurricanes. We have the ability to assist in advertising community
events that the City ofMiami is sponsoring, your Coconut Grove Art Festival or our Coconut
Grove Art Festival. There has been discussion about, well, all -- the only revenue that the City's
going to see is a permit fee, and there is discussion about perhaps we should have negotiated
with the Children's Museum to see what percentage of the revenue that the Museum will derive
from the signage contracts, andl would suggest to you that the benefit to the City is in the
$20, 000 annual visitors, your constituents who visit us, from the free Fridays, from the 400,000
annual visitors, from the fact that you have a jewel. You have a national treasure in your
backyard and we need to keep that sustainable. The signage will allow us to keep it sustainable.
I do not believe that the City's finances are in such disarray or that this Commission could
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possibly be desperate enough to look to tax our children. You do not and you did not provide it
at the Miami Art Museum or the Perez Art Museum or at the Miami Science Museum, a
discounted admission policy for City ofMiami citizens. The value of that, I will repeat again, on
an annual basis for the City ofMiami residents is 120, 000 from the Miami Children's Museum,
andl would submit that if you're looking for a percentage of our revenue, we'd be happy to trade
you that and -- but we'd have to charge City ofMiami residents full charge and we don't want to
do that. We're good citizens. It's a -- these cards, these are all individually signed petitions on
the part of members of this community, of our Miami Children's Museum family, who are asking
you to support this ordinance. And my final comment --
Chair Suarez: Mr. Berkowitz, how many are they --
Mr. Berkowitz: There are almost 4,000.
Chair Suarez: -- more or less?
Mr. Berkowitz: I've not counted them. I'm told almost 1,000.
Commissioner Carollo: And would that be submitted for the records [sic]?
Chair Suarez: Seven hundred, yeah.
Commissioner Carollo: Would that be submitted for the record?
Chair Suarez: Would you --
Mr. Berkowitz: We're happy to.
Chair Suarez: -- mind submitting that for the record?
Mr. Berkowitz: We'd be delighted to.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Berkowitz: And one final comment andl will close. You know, the argument against this is
that it's visual pollution. And I'm guessing, as soon as all of us leave our meeting, we're going to
look at our smartphones and we're going to see e-mails (electronic), some of which are spam,
which is certainly visual pollution, and I know that when I have a break and then I'm going to go
home andl'm going to turn on the television andl'm going to see commercials, and when I drive
out of here, there's no doubt that I will see signage on trucks. The bottom line is we've got to
weigh this. We've got to weigh the comparative benefit for this community, for the citizens of this
community, for the Miami Children's Museum. I have this ability to filter, at least my wife tells
me I do. I can filter out noise that I don't want to hear and I can certainly filter out signage that
I don't want to see. But the bottom line is it tells me, as I drive downtown, who the Heat are
playing in the next couple of days. I mean, there are some benefits to it; and the electronic
signage, from my perspective, is very attractive. And in closing, one of my philosophies is it's
never too late to have a happy childhood, andl would ask you to give us the ability to serve --
continue to serve the children of this community for generations to come. Thank you so much.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir.
(Applause)
Commissioner Gort: No.
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Chair Suarez: Anyone else? Hearing none and seeing none -- are you coming? Come on. Did
you sign in, sir? Come to the microphone. Did you sign in?
Tom Graboski: Not yet.
Chair Suarez: Okay, thank you. Just identify yourself for the record and then you can just go in
and sign in with the Clerk.
Mr. Graboski: My name is Tom Graboski. I am a environmental graphic designer with a
master's in urban design. I have worked for the City on many projects, including the identity
signage and interfuture signage that you see entering and exiting Coconut Grove. I'm here as a
friend of the Museums. I have worked as a volunteer for them on many of their projects. I've
been paid for doing work on their projects. I have nothing to do with the current project that
we're talking about. The concept that they are proposing for the electronic signage at this
facility I would think would be a win/win both for the City and for the Museum. The Museum
benefits from the financial input as well as the identification and identity that comes from it. The
City will benefit from the visual identity that it will bring, going back and forth across the Mc
Arthur Causeway. If these digital images -- these digital boards were anywhere else in the City, I
would be on the side of the gentleman who spoke for Scenic America objecting vigorously to the
fact that they do hurt neighborhoods. You know, there's two of them sitting on the corner of
Douglas and Bird right now that I really feel don't belong there, but they're there and there are
other places around here. But in an urban environment, they have a place. New York City has
Time Square and they -- I would ask any of you to go talk to a property owner and ask if his
value of his property didn't go up when these things started used. You'll find that in the right
place properly done, they can make a very significant and positive contribution to what's going
on in the neighborhood. You have urban core zoning directly across the street from this
Children's Museum and sooner or later, Island Gardens or something like that is going to get
built within a hundred feet of our west property line, and having an identity that will help
encourage both that, this will bring life to the Island and to this whole area. So I appreciate
your time. I am in favor of this. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir. Anyone further from the public? Hearing none and seeing none,
the public hearing is closed, coming back to this Commission.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just have some --
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Spence -Jones is recognized.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- questions. Did you --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Commissioner Carollo, you had some --? You were going to --?
Commissioner Carollo: I was --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mine are quick. Yours might be a little --
Commissioner Carollo: I'll yield to you. I mean, realistically, I was just going to request a finan
-- their financial statements for the year ended 2011, June 30, 2011. I have their financial
statements for June 30, 2010. It didn't seem like it did too bad, but I want to see their financial
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statements for June 30, 2011.
Mr. Berkowitz: We lost $46, 000, which --
Commissioner Carollo: Again --
Mr. Berkowitz: -- not bad.
Commissioner Carollo: -- I would like to see it.
Unidentified Speaker: (INAUDIBLE).
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So I just have some quick questions from the
Administration, and) know we kind of went back and forth on the issue. The first question I had
was what, you know, if any, are the projected annual revenues for each location, which is
something I didn't really get a full understanding? And I'm saying projected revenues from those
signs, the three signs that we're speaking of. So ifI don't have the answer today and if this item
moves to the next level, I would like to definitely make sure that we have that information before
the next reading, so that's --
Mr. Torre: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Unless you have an answer. But to my understanding, you don't.
Mr. Torre: My answer is we have it for the James L. Knight Center. The other two --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Torre: -- we don't.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I think that if we're going to vote on anything permanently, we
make -- we have to make an intelligent decision with all the information. Because I want to
understand -- you know, know what the revenue is on all three sides. Then the other question I
had was, you know, we talked about one LED per location, right? My question becomes on
buildings like the Gusman where you could have signs on both sides facing the public
right-of-way, are we -- I just want to be clear. Based upon, you know, what's being presented to
us, is there going to be more than one sign with this particular ordinance or is it just -- or is this
allowing for two signs?
Mr. Garcia: Good afternoon. Francisco Garcia, Planning & Zoning director. The way the
ordinance is presently drafted, it speaks about these signs in the singular. That however would
not preclude necessarily a sign that turns the corner, so to speak. And the reason I say that is we
have precedent presently as part of the mural ordinance. That being said, though,
Commissioner, the -- perhaps the some more precise answer would be we would have to study
each application on a case -by -case basis, and if it is found whether by us, the Historic
Preservation Board, any other applicable body, that that is not the desirable way to go, then we
would not be approving that sign.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can I get a yes or no 'cause --?
Mr. Garcia: The possibility exists to apply for it, but it has to be decided on a case -by -case
basis. So it's contemplated to be one --
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: So the answer is yes?
Mr. Garcia: -- sign. The sign could turn the corner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, one sign but basically two different sides of the building?
Mr. Martinez: The sign that turns the corner in a mural instance is considered one sign, if it just
turns the corner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, if it's connected?
Mr. Martinez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Not two different separate signs?
Mr. Martinez: No.
Commissioner Gort: Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is it --?
Mr. Martinez: If it turns the corner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. All right, not a problem. (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F). All right,
so I just want to be clear. So it can't be two different messages on two different signs. Like I
can't be driving down one side andl have the whole different message and then the other side a
whole 'nother message because that would constitute two different advertising opportunities,
correct?
Mr. Garcia: Well --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, these are the questions. Again, we may not get all in this
meet --
Mr. Garcia: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- particular meeting, but these are things that I think the staff
should never stumble on. You should be able to -- you guys should be very clear, you know,
when you step up to the -- I understand what you're saying. You're saying from a wrapping
standpoint, if it's one particular message, this sign -- this ordinance would allow for you to do. I
got you. But I just want to make sure it's very clear that you're not having two different
opportunities to make revenues off of this particular ordinance.
Mr. Garcia: Right. Andl wanted to address that as well, Commissioner, because the language I
submitted to you contemplates copy that changes periodically. I believe the exact provision is
for one copy every eight seconds. So in order to understand your concern, your very concern is
that the copy won't change or that there will be only one message. That is not the case. I just
want the clam that. The case is that the copy can change over time. So what you will see, the
image displayed on the sign --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Garcia: -- will be able to change over time as --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
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Mr. Garcia: -- frequently at eight -second intervals.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. My only concern in all of this -- I just want to be clear -- is
that we don't have two -- on one side of the building a different advertisement and the other on
the other side.
Mr. Garcia: That is correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That is what my --
Mr. Garcia: That is correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- question was. And you're saying no, that's not the case.
Mr. Garcia: That is not the --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That wrap will allow for us to only have one message, one form of
revenue, period.
Mr. Garcia: At a time, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: At a time. Okay, cool. All right, the other thingl had a question
on andl want to be clear on -- the biggest issue I had in our briefings -- and you know, again,
I'm hoping -- with the Manager and all the individuals involved in this -- is the revenue sharing
part of this. For the last few months, you know, I've been talking about not only this issue but the
other billboards and other things that are throughout the City ofMiami; us looking beyond the
permitting part of this, the fees part of this and us figuring out a way that we can at least share in
those revenue -- like revenues like other cities across the countries [sic] are doing. And despite
what -- andl have a lot of respect for the chairman of the Children's Museum, but despite the
comment that he made today, the last couple of months we've seen that the City -- I appreciate
the fact that you don't feel that, financially, we haven't had some challenging issues, but clearly,
if you don't know it -- if you didn't know it before, you need to know it today, and all of the City
Commissioners sitting up here, the City is having some serious financial issues that we need to
work through, which is why you hear from Vice Chair always speaking -- and is even on his
agenda today -- about the hiring of police officers, about, you know, employees being laid off
about us not being able to provide services. The same issues that you guys speak of about trying
to make sure that you try to provide resources to families of the Children's Museum, we're trying
to do it for the City employees that live here that have to take care of their families, that may be
able to send their kids to the Children's Museum. Because if they don't have a job or anywhere
to work, they won't even have an opportunity to even enjoy walking to the Children's Museum.
So we have a delicate balance and that is, yes, we think what you do and what the Gusman does
is very important. I support that 100 percent. I have two boys of my own, you know. But the
reality is I also have to look in the face of these City employees that I'm also having to tell that if
the resources aren't here, departments are having to let go seven, eight, nine, ten employees, and
our commitment is to the residents first and to the City employees first. So my only comment on
this -- and I'm hoping that we're able to come back to this item and really make sure that we
address the revenue sharing part of this. None of us sitting up here should ever sit here and try
to at least pretend that, you know, these -- I don't care if it's $250, 000; we need every dime in the
City right now. And I'm saying this to my City Manager, and we had this discussion, you know.
It's very difficult for me to be briefed, you know, the house is on fire -- andl don't want to get
into the details of that -- but then you turn around on this same -- in the same week at -- I'm
looking at items where we're giving the whole house away and not even trying to generate
revenue and this has been the main push, you know. That's fine for people to make money. I
don't have a problem with that. We need, you know, the economy to circulate, but we also have
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to think about our own city first too, so I really want to make sure that we consider revenue
streams as options in all these agreements. So that was the number -one issue for me in our
beginnings of our discussions and, hopefully, this will be addressed if not today, but addressed
before the next time that it's heard. And then last but not least, you know, I don't have a -- I
know some people have a issue with the visual pollution and, you know, I guess that Sarnoffs --
that's probably -- your constituents have a real big issue, you know, with that and that's your
battle. I'm learning how to choose my own. This -- my only question is, originally, before I left
-- and Sarnoff probably remembers this -- I remember we talked about murals and we talked
about billboards and the opportunities to kind of include this in regional parks because at the
time we thought about the opportunity to generate revenue for our City programs, our City
parks, our staffers, and l just -- what really bothered me out of -- with this legislation was the
only three properties that were identified in this legislation. I just feel that if this is coming back
to us again, that we need to definitely open up to at least include a number for, which would be
regional parks, and regional parks are places like Grapeland. I know the former City
Commission that was sitting here -- Angel was pushing for that and that's a great place on the
way going to, how do you say it, the airport as an option. I know even in my district they were --
we were pushing really hard for Gibson Park because all of our park programs, you know,
they're diminishing in such a way because we don't have the resources to provide support to our
kids. So the only thing that would ask that be amended in this is to include a number for, which
would allow for regional parks. Of course the City Manager, it would be up to your discretion,
I'm assuming, you know, and guess we would have to vote on that, what those regional parks
are. But I think it's important for us to look at every opportunity to generate revenues so that our
City, our employees, and our residents, you know, we stay afloat. That's extremely important to
me, and that's my only comments on today. I think I've covered them all. But do want to
address your last issue, Mr. Berkowitz. You mentioned -- and l just like stuff to be clean, you
know. You mentioned that you really -- you have the ability right now, the building itself, to go
'head and put up a sign, andl wanted to correct you on that 'cause I just -- I had to lean over to
my City Attorney and to verift, that you don't have the ability right now without having the City's
approval to have any billboards or any murals or any of that sort put up on your building
without having support from this Commission and it's extremely important. Yes, you can put a
sign to say come to the Children's Museum and to promote the Children's Museum and some of
the things that are being offered in there, but that is a very big difference than being able to
advertise Lexus, Cadillac, and all of the other things, and hopefully no alcohol on children's
buildings, or beer. But my point is there is a very big difference in the two so if I'm not -- am I
correct, Madam City Attorney, on this issue?
Ms. Bru: The Children's Museum has the ability to have signage related to the premises, to the
business that they conduct on the premises. They don't have the authority to engage in outdoor
advertising, which is what this sign would allow them to do.
Chair Suarez: Can I just ask a question on that? So what you're saying is that -- that's a point of
sale, correct?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Right. So what you're saying is the only thing -- so they can already -- you're
saying they can already do a point -of -sale sign, an electronic sign, so they can visually pollute,
supposedly --?
Ms. Bru: I don't know what kind of sign because I think the lease talks about the sign that was
submitted as part of their MUSP or their building plan, so there was some City approval of the
kind of sign that went there already.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. Well --
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: And --
Chair Suarez: No. I was just going to say that, you know -- and I'm sorry to interrupt you on
your point -- that, you know, if they already have the right to put up a sign and that is already in
effect, visual pollution as some would consider it, then the only thing we're talking about here is
the content of the information that's on the sign itself. But it doesn't make it more polluting or
less --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Suarez: -- polluting.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. Andl don't know -- because I don't know even if the sign
itself talks about whether or not it's digital or not. It could just be signage, period. Okay, she
has to look it up. But that's neither here nor there. My point is I wanted to correct you because
it's really important whatever we speak here not only amongst the Commission, but I always
think about the people that are watching andl don't like to send mixed signals, so it's really
important.
Mr. Berkowitz: And may I --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, you may.
Mr. Berkowitz: Madam Commissioner, may clarify because I am a recovering lawyer andl do
have a commitment to accuracy and to truth, but I am not an expert in the area. So the statement
I made was a statement based on the discussions that I've had with the learned counsel of
Greenberg Traurig.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Berkowitz: So I'm going to let her tell you that I did not make a mistake.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So we can spank her and not you.
Mr. Berkowitz: Feel free.
Commissioner Gort: It's her fault.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: It's her fault.
Iris Escarra: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Iris Escarra, 333 Avenue of the Americas. What
Mr. -- what we had explained to Mr. Berkowitz is that his building is allowed signage, on -site
signage for uses, for identification signage, for merchandise that's sold in site. What is not
allowed is off -site signage. The content -- like the Chairman had mentioned, the content of the
sign -- once you have the Lexuses, the things that are not sold on site, that requires a special City
Commission approval.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. And we all can agree that it's more valuable if it's a Lexus,
a Cadillac, a Rolex --
Ms. Escarra: That's why we're here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- than "Come to the Miami Children's Museum." Andl
understand it's business, but --
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Ms. Escarra: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- it's just important for us all to be on the same page about what
we're speaking of. In closing I just want to say, you know, the bottom line, every dime counts for
the City Commission. Our job and responsibility as elected officials is to make sure that we keep
our house in order and to make sure that we benefit from every business move that we make, and
this is a business move, you know. So I just wanted to at least make sure that it's clear from the
Administration side of it. I can only support this legislation is if there is a revenue stream that's
attached to it that benefits the City, our City employees and the services that, you know, we need
in order to run our City. And then the only way that I can support the issue is if we also allow
the opportunities for the regional parks to also be included so that additional revenue can be
used as -- utilized as well. To me, I think that those are my main issues.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Commissioner. I just have a question, kind of maybe give an example
that may illustrate the difference between the point of sale andl think what they call Class C
commercial signs. In the point of sale context -- and correct me if I'm wrong, please anybody in
the Administration -- if you're selling Pepsi inside, you can advertise Pepsi, but you can't
advertise Coke.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Chair Suarez: So the only difference is that under this, you're able to advertise Coke if you're
selling Pepsi inside. So it's --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, but it's a big difference --
Chair Suarez: No, no, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- in the revenue stream.
Chair Suarez: Oh, no, no, no, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Huge.
Chair Suarez: No, no, no. The revenue stream argument, I'm with you a hundred percent.
Mr. Martinez: This is for the arguments that say we're over polluting.
Chair Suarez: Right. I'm talking about visual --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, okay, no, no.
Chair Suarez: -- pollution.
Mr. Martinez: The signs that's already --
Chair Suarez: I'm not talking about the revenue.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, we already established that that's --
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- Commissioner Sarnoffs -- Vice Chairman Sarnoffs argument.
So -- right?
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Vice Chair Sarnofff. When I'm ready to speak, I'll let you know.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. I'll filtering it all in, as they say. I'm taking -- I'll take the visual pollution
in.
Chair Suarez: On that note, Vice Chair, you're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And D5 (District 5), we're not concerned about the visual
pollution.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. No. I -- you know, should a fat bald man be allowed to be shown on one of
these buildings? That's visual pollution, right? Should a beautiful woman with beautiful long
legs be allowed to be shown on that? Well, I guess that's not visual pollution. See, nobody's the
arbiter of what is pretty and nobody is the arbiter of what is ugly. It's all in the eye of the
beholder. And in the words -- I think it was Justice Douglas -- I can avert my eyes. When I see
something) don't like, I can avert my eyes. Yet, in Miami, you can't. And not only does it in
Miami, it destroys your property value. See, none of the statements I'm making are true, they're
just extremes. Is a beautiful woman nice to see on a billboard? I'd say yes. Are the Beatles fun
to see on a billboard or on a --? I know there's one on 1-95. When I see the Beatles up there, I
don't know, it brings back memories to me. Probably a lot more memories to Berkowitz since
he's the right age. But, you know, every billboard has a plus or every commercial message has a
plus and every commercial message has a minus. And we up here today sit here in our discretion
to determine if the good, the benefits, outweigh the burdens. I would suggest to anyone that ifI
really believed for one moment that) would destroy or harm somebody's property value, I simply
wouldn't engage in this. I could tell you that as a result of the murals, three major downtown
properties survived this onslaught of depression 'cause for them it wasn't a recession; for them it
was a depression. The Marquis exists, 1010 Museum exists, Marina Blue exists all because they
were allowed to have commercial message. And by the way, when people could not come up
with their necessary maintenance fee, it offset their maintenance fees. So was this a good
program? Let me make a suggestion to everybody on this board 'cause I know Commissioner
Spence -Jones was involved to some degree. Your mural ordinance is not only a good mural
ordinance, it's the best mural ordinance in the United States. Nobody has anything comparable;
not Houston and not Dallas. And how do we know that? Because the mayors of both of those
cities have visited us and asked us how did you do this? Four point five million dollars a year
annually. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Again, it's all in the eye of the beholder. Without
the $4.5 million, I look at it as, you know, that's probably about what, 450 cops. So do you need
450 less cops? Well, maybe you do. Or maybe less programming in your parks? Maybe you do.
Do you need less firemen? Maybe you do. But today you're being asked a different question.
You're actually being asked what is the role of government, 'cause here's where you are. Because
I said we were going to get to this three years ago, and you just took a 34 percent reduction in
CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) dollars, you took another 10 percent reduction in
CBDG [sic] dollars. Andl got news for you. I'll be up here two years from now and you'll still
be taking a 20 and 25 percent reduction in CDBG dollars. That's whether Barack Obama's still
president and that's whether Mitt Romney is president. Because as long as you are spending six
out of ten dollars on entitlement programs and four in ten dollars is borrowed, those are
numbers that are going to be cut, bottom line. Can't pass it on to Suarez's grandkids. He doesn't
have kids yet, and you're already passing it on to his grandkids. That will happen. So
government's role -- what is government's role? It is no longer able to shoulder the
responsibility of culture and affairs. Why? It simply isn't a primary task like police, like fire, like
sanitation. So government shrinks from what it had been doing in 2001, 2002, 2003, not because
it wants to shrink from that, because it can no longer sustain that kind of revenue sharing with
the good causes. Government starts filling the role that you demand that it fills. And the only
way you can backfill that in a cultural setting is to afford the cultural centers profit -making
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opportunities. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, Mr. Chair. I said this with the
Coconut Grove Playhouse. I said this with Miami Marine Stadium. If these things are to
survive, the activists, as well as the rest of the business community, have to find in their hearts
the ability to allow them an ability to offset revenue so they can create revenue opportunities. If
it's so heinous for some people to see a visual billboard or whatever you'd like to call it -- I
happen to think the one on the Gusman is a stellar example of a great adaptive reuse. I think the
one at the museum fits so well with the architectural nuance of that building. And with regard to
the James L. Knight Center, it always was a butt ugly building and no visual anything will help
it. But having said that, if we fit our role of government -- for years and years and years we gave
to the Miami Children's Museum, we gave to the Gusman, hundreds of thousands of dollars
annually, and we simply can't do that any longer. So here's the stark choice you presently have.
Your stark choice is let them close. I'm a purist. I wouldn't allow a commercial message within a
thousand feet of my home. Mr. Berkowitz, sorry, your children just are simply not going to be
allowed to go to the museum. Sorry, sir, I just can't have visual pollution in my city. And that's
not me. I'm not going to say that to the Gusman either, not when the Gusman has a unique
opportunity. Think about this. Think about the Gusman's ability to show a play on the exterior
of its building when you're not actually in there. You know, this past Christmas I went to Time
Square and I actually stayed in Time Square, and my neck got tired from looking around at the
awe and the amazement. And Mr. Ehrlich, I did check to see the differential, the delta as they
say, between what a piece of property was worth in Time Square in 2000 and what it's worth
today, and it's about a ten fold increase. I didn't say one fold. I didn't say three fold. I said a
ten fold increase. So if the place that has the most visual pollution, if you will --
Chair Suarez: That's a thousand percent, by the way.
Vice Chair Sarnoff What's that?
Chair Suarez: That's a thousand percent.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right, about a thousand percent increase. If you look at the 2000 value --
Chair Suarez: Just in case you're wondering.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- versus what it was in 2010. And by the way, the projection is still going
up. So visual pollution does not harm your property values. With all that said -- and I'll
conclude -- if you don't like visual pollution, avert your eyes. If you don't like murals, avert your
eyes. If you don't like what's on TV (Television), turn it off. If you don't like the truck that you're
following in front of make a left turn. If you don't like looking at an ugly man with a bald head,
turn your eyes to the right and find that pretty woman. It's -- you're all -- it's all up to you guys.
It's all up to us. It's a balancing act, and the balance that I find here is that the cultural
opportunities that you afford children, the cultural opportunities that you afford playhouses, the
cultural opportunities that you afford concerts are certainly worth a small amount of commercial
messaging. So I do support this ordinance, Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir. Commissioner Carollo, then Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Since we're addressing the visual pollution
side, I'll start with that. I will admit, though I cringe at thinking that, especially the Miami
Children's Museum will have an LED mural/billboard, yes, I do. It's -- it will be the first, so the
truth of the matter is that, yeah, I do cringe. I don't have a problem with James L. Knight
Center, Gusman. And we start getting into that maybe yes, maybe not. And with the Miami
Children's Museum, it's definitely the only thing in -- the only place in Watson Island that will
have that type of signage. At the same time, everybody knows that I put up a big fight when they
were going to put a billboard, LED -- I don't know if it was LED or not -- in front of a
neighborhood and this actually does not hinder on any neighborhoods. So I still have to, you
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know, grapple with it a little bit but at the very least, I know for a fact it's not affecting a
neighborhood like in the past it would have. And also, the district Commissioner, you know, has
stated that he doesn't have a problem with it. Now outside from that, one of the reasons that
we're stating or if not the main reason for this billboard and some call it visual pollution or not,
is plain and simply funding. You know, I've heard that, you know, if this funding is not here,
some of the places will close down or may have to close down. Well, I'm looking at the financials
andl'm telling you, I don't see any going concerns with the Miami Children's Museum, so I don't
think that's the case here. I haven't read through the whole financials, but I could tell you, just
looking at the P and L, the profit and loss, the statement of activities, yes, okay, this year you had
a loss of 48, 000 unrestricted or in total, 27,000. But the truth of the matter is that, you know,
last year you had profits of 571 or revenues over expenses of 571 unrestricted. And if you look at
the total, it's 1.4 million. But what I'm saying is it's not like you have a going concern. You're
doing good. The issue I see this year -- and let me finish, please.
Mr. Berkowitz: Of course.
Commissioner Carollo: The issue I see this year is the big drop in donations. You went from 1.8
million to 500, 000. So I don't know if you're having problems raising monies or the donations,
but that's where I'm seeing the big problem. Now, with that said, more alarming to me -- 'cause
you know how I requested the financial statements for your last -- the year ending 2011. If you
were to ask me for the financial statements of the City, I would tell you, guess what? We haven't
issued them. More alarming is that we've been told that we don't know when those financial
statements will be issued. Slight different. Your year end is June 30. Our year end is September
30. However, they were supposed to be issued on March 31. They were not issued. That's
alarming to me. So when Commissioner Spence -Jones states, as far as our financial position
and as far as we're talking the simplest form of services, police, fire, solid waste, realistically,
yes, we're concerned. We are looking at a possible budget deficit of somewhere in the area of
$40 million. And you know, last year we started lower than that and it grew much higher than
that, so there's concerns. I mean -- and think they're legit concerns. So I know this is first
reading. Between first and second reading, you know, if it should pass on first reading, before
first -- second reading, I think we really need to discuss this. You know, I'm fair andl'm
reasonable, but the truth of the matter is we really need to get deep into this. We need to discuss
the numbers and take it from there. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I got to go back a few years. You guys remember the TV program Miami
Vice? Somebody was talking to me about Miami Vice, what the skyline looked for the City of
Miami back in the '90s or '80s. You look at the City ofMiami today, you look at the skyline, you
see the amount of investments that have come in in the area. Back in the '90s, we were talking
about in order to bring investors to the City ofMiami, we needed to create museums, we need to
create art, we need to create the type of atmosphere to bring those individuals here. Downtown
Miami died at 5 o'clock every night, nobody on weekends. We need to bring housing to
downtown Miami. The first housing we did, we did it right there on the Olympia, the Olympia
building. Then we created three other buildings with affordable housing to start bringing that.
We can see what's happening to downtown Miami in that area. We began that by creating that.
We did the funding for that. The Gusman hall, every time they have an event there, the
merchants in the area, they really love it because they make the revenues that they need for the
rest of the month with the one activity. So in other words, when I look at this, I also look at the
impact that it makes in the economy at the City ofMiami. And this is something else that we
need to analyze. I know we're having financial problem, we got problems and maybe in the
second reading we can look and you can hear the message from a few of the Commissioners
here. Let's see if we can help each other. This is very important 'cause we have to continue to
support the City because without the City we can't support these other events. Now when it
comes to the pollution, I love the signs. I mean I love when I see it now on TV and to look at the
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-- back in the '60's, like most of the buildings in TV were dark. Today when you look at our
buildings -- and you got to realize this is being watched worldwide. Why are we having so many
people from Europe, from Asia wanting to come and invest in Miami? Because they see us every
day. We're becoming the envied, andl know we have to be very careful in this. Now, you're
talking about people being distracted when driving. I remember about 20 years ago I got a
ticket because I had a small TV for my kids andl was looking at it. The policeman stopped me
because that was bad. That was dangerous. Today you got everybody with the -- what do you
call them, GPS (Global Positioning System), right there looking at them. You got your people
text messaging. I mean, you want something more dangerous than people driving and text
messaging or trying to write. I mean, come on. Let's be realistic. And someone when they come
and tell me how it affects their property, I'd like to know how. What's the effect? What does it
does to their property? I'm in favor of it. I don't have any problem with this ordinance. Matter
of fact, I was going to bring a pocket item today. One of the things we talked about when we first
opened the People Mover or the downtown -- everybody was saying how ugly our rooftops look.
Well, guess what? Why don't we come out with a pocket item -- I was going to bring something
to generate additional funds. Why don't we come up with the -- an ordinance where we can
allow the people to create more attractive setting on the roof and do some advertising on the
roof. We have the heliport coming in, which people will be coming in and out looking at the
rooftops. We got the downtown, a lot of the -- most of our buildings, they're right in heart of the
planes taking off or landing. So that's something maybe we should look at too. I don't have any
problem with the ordinance. I do think we should get together. We got to work as a team and
bring the benefit to both parties. Thank you. That's it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman, do you have some comments you want to --?
Chair Suarez: I do.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: But you -- go ahead. Go ahead. 171 wrap it up.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I was just going to go ahead and make the motion. But I
mean, if you want to --
Chair Suarez: Okay. You move it?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I move it with the amendments.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Torre: I do --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, I know. And think the Administration has to put something on the record
regarding amendments. Go ahead.
Mr. Torre: Actually, there's a few issues.
Chair Suarez: Go ahead.
Mr. Torre: Number one, I wanted to clarify that the Gusman center is not a lease. It is an
operating agreement. I apologize for that misspeak.
Commissioner Gort: I'm sorry. You have to speak into the mike.
Mr. Torre: The -- excuse me -- Gusman center is an operating agreement, not a lease. The
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amendment to the legislation is going to read that permit fees paid to the City will be for the
benefit of the City rather than the benefit of the venue, and that'll be in the second -- prior to the
second reading.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Torre: And the last item is the permit fees can go as -- is based on per square foot. It can go
up to 126, 000. That is the maximum. So when I said 60, it could go up considerably.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are those your amendments you're putting?
Mr. Torre: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Those are the amendments you're speaking of?
Mr. Torre: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so those aren't mine -- necessarily my amendments. So
should l just add my amendments?
Chair Suarez: Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Put them on the record.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So you have three items, so definitely want there to be a
number four for regional parks. Okay, that's the other one part of the amendment. And we don't
have to decide what the revenue stream is going to be today, but I'm asking for our manager
when it comes back on the second reading, that we look at, you know, something that makes
sense for us all. Hopefully, by then you will have real numbers from the potential revenues that's
going to come from these sites so that whatever it is, you know, it's not hurting the individuals
that, you know, clearly need support for their venues, but at the same time it's helping the City.
So hopefully, we can get real numbers to, you know, at least come up with an estimated amount.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Where do I start? When the Administration brought this to me, I, like
Commissioner Carollo, kind of --
Commissioner Carollo: By the way, second for discussion.
Chair Suarez: Okay, great.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Second for discussion. I also kind of cringed a little bit when this was first
brought to me. Andl do think there are a well -organized, substantial group of people who do
feel that any outdoor advertising is visual pollution. Andl think that, you know, that happens
and that exists. But then I actually started to think about it and think about, you know, what is it
that the City's doing here, what is it that the City's proposing? Andl actually invited the group
to come and meet with me and the Administration to see if there was a way that they could
support this because I feel that the hardest decisions that we have to make up here are when we
are dealing with two different noble objectives. Andl remember not that long ago we had to
choose -- or I chose and the Commission also, affordable housing over a park in a specific piece
of property. And so, you know, in this case, you have what believe to be two noble objectives.
And so as Mr. Berkowitz said, you have to weigh, you know, the benefit versus the cost. When I
weigh the benefits versus the costs, to me it seems to me that the benefits outweigh the cost
because these are treasures in our City, and the last thing that we want is for them to be in
jeopardy. So I am supportive of this on first reading. I want to see what those amendments --
other amendments are just between the first and the second reading and see, you know, where we
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go with that. But I will support this on first reading. It's been moved and seconded, and it's an
ordinance.
Ms. Bru: Okay. With the amendments proffered by Commissioner --
Chair Suarez: All amendments.
Ms. Bru: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. I mean, she's the mover. She made the amendments and she accepted the
amendments by the Administration. And the seconder, you accept?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes, I do. I just want to be able to work with the Administration with
regards to the numbers and the revenue sharing and stuff like that.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Bru: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
The Ordinance was read into the public record by the City Attorney.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call. Vice Chair Sarnoff?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Yes. I'm not sure -- I want to learn what a regional park is and I will make a
statement on the recordl will not put any outdoor advertising in any District 2 park.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What now (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F)?
Chair Suarez: He's saying he will not put any outdoor advertising in any District 2 park.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, okay.
Chair Suarez: I'll second that for District 4. I'll tell you that right now because right now we're
having a major issue in Shenandoah Park with a fire station that was -- they were told -- the
community was told that this station would be temporary until they found a location. Well, eight
years have gone by and they have not found a location. So this -- we have bond money that's --
it's about $4 million of bond money that's tied up in the construction of this firehouse -- it's
firehouse station 14, I believe, or 11. I get them confused. Those are the two numbers in my
district. Andl could tell you that it has not been easy dealing with the Shenandoah residents
regarding making that permanent. So there's a high level of sensitivity in my district to anything
that diminishes park space, that gets in the way of park space. So for me personally, I would
exclude District 4 from that as well.
Ms. Thompson: Continuing with your roll call. Commissioner Gort?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Carollo?
Commissioner Carollo: On first reading, yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: On first reading, yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Suarez?
Chair Suarez: On first reading, yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance, as modified, has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. And Mr. Chairman --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: -- just what you're saying is -- I understand exactly what you're saying
because in all fairness, that station actually provides service to areas in my district and actually
to my residents --
Chair Suarez: Yep.
Commissioner Carollo: -- so I know exactly what you're saying and that's -- but I think between
first reading and second reading we'll have a chance to --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And l just want to --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: -- address.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- mention --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- one of the parks that I --
Chair Suarez: And wasn't -- Go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: One -- Commissioner Carollo, one of the parks I thought about
was, honestly, which would be a highly visible area, is your park, Jose Marti. It's like in a place
where, you know, quite frankly, the kids in that area needs those resources for the park. But I'm
just saying, just leaving it open so that you have that as an option. And even though our D2
(District 2) Commissioner is very clear about that, but I'm willing to bet you -- I don't know if
you're going to be here four or five years from now -- you might reinvent yourself who knows,
but you may. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if you have Museum Park coming back to you
later on saying, you know what, we just need additional revenue. So even though you may not be
here and you may not be in agreement with it, I would not want you to tie the hands of the next
Commissioner after you. That -- I've learned that from you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. That's a perfect --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I took your words.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- that's a very valid, debatable point.
Commissioner Carollo: And we'll have time from first reading to second reading.
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RE.1
12-00270
Department of
Fire -Rescue
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Chair Suarez: Andl think there was one in my district that was thought about, which was Robert
King High. I mean, I -- I'll be honest with you, I don't think that I could support that in my
district. I don't know about everybody else, but anyhow, sir? You're very welcome. Thank you.
Thank you for your presentation.
END OF FIRST READING ORDINANCES
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH ATTACHMENT(S)
ADDING THE AGENCIES OF THE BROWARD COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE
AND THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE, AS PARTICIPATING
AGENCIES IN THE MIAMI URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE ("UASI")
GRANT PROGRAM FISCAL YEAR 2010, PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION NO.
11-0478, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 17, 2011; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE MEMORANDA OF AGREEMENTS, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY ATTACHED FORM, WITH THE PARTIES'
RESPONSIBILITIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND
SUPPORT OF THE UASI PROJECTADMINISTERED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI
DEPARTMENT OF FIRE -RESCUE.
12-00270 Summary Form.pdf
12-00270 Pre-Backup.pdf
12-00270 Legislation.pdf
12-00270 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0135
Chair Suarez: I guess we're going to adjourn the meeting for lack of a quorum. As soon as we
have one more, we'll get started. Okay, we have a quorum. I was going to adjourn the meeting
for lack of a quorum, but I decided to -- Mr. Vice Chair --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir.
Chair Suarez: -- I was going to adjourn the meeting for lack of a quorum, but you know, I
decided against it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I will never be tardy again, Mr. Chair. It was -- I'm remiss andl will adjust
my watch accordingly, sir.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir. Let's go with RE.1. We don't have a full Commission before --
you know, once we have the full body, then we'll go with that item. I'm pretty sure that people
that are not here want to be here for it. RE.1. RE.1, anybody. Going once, going twice.
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Unidentified Speaker: Here he is.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Sir, you're recognized.
Joseph Zahralban: Thank you, sir. Joseph Zahralban, assistant fire chief and emergency
management, City ofMiami fire -rescue.
Chair Suarez: Mr. Cruz, can you please have a seat. Go ahead, sir. You want -- do you want to
make any presentation on the item?
Mr. Zahralban: I'm sorry, sir?
Chair Suarez: Do you want to make a presentation on the item?
Mr. Zahralban: I'll just briefly discuss the item. It's a request for an -- two MOAs
(Memorandums of Agreement) being added, which is Broward County Sheriff's Office and Palm
Beach Sheriff's Office. We're adding them as participating agencies for Urban Area Security
Initiative grant, fiscal year 2010.
Chair Suarez: And l just want to ask one question on that, which is -- I believe we changed the
policy affronting the money on that grant. Is that the grant or am I confusing it with the other
one?
Commissioner Gort: All the grant, my understanding is, we will not upfront anymore.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Gort: When we get the reimbursement, then they'll get paid.
Mr. Zahralban: That is correct, sir. For subgrantees, we are not fronting the money.
Chair Suarez: Perfect.
Mr. Zahralban: We are only fronting money on City ofMiami purchases.
Chair Suarez: The reason why I ask is we're going to have a discussion item later about the cash
position of the City, cash issues related to the City, and part of that has to do with grant, you
know reimbursables, so just wanted to put that on the record. Thank you. Is there a motion on
RE. 1?
Commissioner Gort: Move it and discussion.
Commissioner Carollo: Second for discussion.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort, second by Commissioner Carollo. Commissioner
Gort, then Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Gort: Part of what I'd like to see is us working closely also with our police
department. As you can see, working as a team, we were able to get you the two additional
trucks today, andl think that facility -- that's -- funds can also be used by our police department
and that will help us also in our budget.
Mr. Zahralban: Yes, sir, absolutely. We actually do work collaboratively with the police
department within the UASI grant. Andl recently met with some of your --
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Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Zahralban: -- staffers today, earlier today, to discuss how we can better leverage grant
funding to benefit the overall City ofMiami and the region in general.
Commissioner Gort: Thankyou. I appreciate it.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Zahralban: Thankyou.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Carollo: Thankyou, Mr. Chairman. And l just want to put it for the record. A
question that I've asked, you know, in the past for different issues andl want to ask you, and
more than anything, to put it for the record. This is -- we're taking up Broward and Fort
Lauderdale, correct?
Mr. Zahralban: Starting in 2011 Miami and Fort Lauderdale UASIs had been combined so that
makes us responsible for all four counties essentially: Monroe, Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach
counties.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. And why is the City ofMiami responsible for this region, you
could say?
Mr. Zahralban: The City ofMiami has been identified as the core city or the city holding the
most risk. As a result of that, we were identified as the urban area administrators which would
be a conduit to funnel all of those monies and associated responsibilities out.
Commissioner Carollo: Andl believe there was 40 cities that were identified and there were
municipalities in -- correct, to be the ones that administer these funds?
Mr. Zahralban: Yes. There were -- the number changes every year as far as the core cities
throughout the country that are identified as high risk. Right now they hover right around 36
cities, 36 to 40, and presently the City of Miami resides as number 11 of the highest risk cities in
the country.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. That's all the questions I have.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, seeing none, all in favor, signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.2 RESOLUTION
12-00263
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Works ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED JANUARY 11, 2012,
PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BIDS NO. 11-12-015, FROM SUPERIOR
LANDSCAPING & LAWN SERVICES, INC., THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "BISCAYNE
BOULEVARD MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, M-0039", FOR A ONE (1) YEAR
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PERIOD, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $301,730; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING FOUR (4) ADDITIONAL ONE (1) YEAR OPTIONS TO
RENEW, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $301,730; ALLOCATING
SAID FUNDS, FROM ACCOUNT NUMBERS 00001.204000.534000.0.0 AND
00001.207000.534000.0.0, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012, WITH FUTURE FISCAL
YEAR FUNDING SUBJECT ONLY TO BUDGETARY APPROVAL;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID PROJECT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAID OPTIONS TO
RENEW SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING AND THE
CONTRACTORS PERFORMANCE.
12-00263 Summary Form.pdf
12-00263 Letter - Biscayne Blvd. Maintenance
12-00263 Proposal Bid Form.pdf
12-00263 Supplement to Bid Form.pdf
12-00263 Legislation.pdf
12-00263 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: RE.2.
Joseph Zahralban (Assistant Fire Chief Fire -Rescue): Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Take care. Thank you, guys.
Nzeribe Ihekwaba: Good afternoon. Zerry Ihekwaba, Public Works director. RE.2 is a
resolution to award a contract to Superior Landscaping & Lawn Services, in an amount not to
exceed $301, 730, for the project entitled "Biscayne Boulevard Maintenance Contract, M-0039."
This is a maintenance contract for the Biscayne Boulevard corridor from south -- from Northeast
5th Street to the City limits, which is Northeast 87th Street. Back in 2007 the Miami City
Commission passed a resolution conceding to the state of Florida green improvements along
Biscayne Boulevard. In addition to the resolution, the City also contributed funding in an
amount of $240, 000 to fund the improvements. The project length is about five miles and
includes landscaping, irrigation systems, landscape uplighting, which is electrical installations,
as well as some special treatment on the sidewalks. The maintenance agreement requires the
City to maintain the median landscape, the trees and the swale, the uplighting, as well as the
sidewalk special treatments, as well as tree grates. The City ofMiami published the RFP
(Request for Proposals) and ten prospective bidders picked up the packages; four returned the
packages, and SFM was the lowest (UNINTELLIGIBLE) response lowest bidder for $343, 330.
However, pursuant to Section 18-89 of the City code, there was a local bidder that was 15 --
within 15 percent of the upper and low bidder, which was Superior Landscaping. Purchasing
Department requested for a best and final offer and both entities reduced their bid offers;
Superior Landscaping by $59, 000 and SFM by $16,000. Apparently, Superior Landscaping then
became the lowest responsive bidder --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Ihekwaba: -- and that is why we're recommending award to Superior Landscaping.
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Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Ihekwaba. And, you know, that's an ordinance that the Vice
Chair andl worked on to give companies the opportunity to -- particularly local ones to have a
second kind of bite at the apple and it's a win/win because, you know, you give -- you know, the
City's going to benefit financially from it. This contract -- by the way, I support this, andl think
landscaping is the -- somebody who owns a huge landscaping company told me that it's the
cheapest window dressing for a city, to make a city beautiful. And all the things that you're
talking about are going to be done in this contract sound eerily similar to the things that were
being done in Coral Way.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Very similar. So I'm going to support this because I think it's the right thing. I
think it's great for the City ofMiami. But again, I want to reiterate that, you know, I'm going to
be looking forward to seeing an item similar to this for Coral Way, andl know that you're
working on a grant for the lighting system so --
Mr. Ihekwaba: That's correct, sir.
Chair Suarez: -- thank you.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by --
Commissioner Gort: Discussion.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Gort --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: -- second by Vice Chair Sarnoff. Any further discussion?
Commissioner Gort: Discussion.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I'd like to see this implement throughout the City.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Gort: I mean, we have a lot of corridors that need assistance in the other
neighborhoods and would like to look at it.
Chair Suarez: And --
Mr. Ihekwaba: Okay.
Chair Suarez: -- the reason why I brought it up is because we had a contract to maintain Coral
Way and it was taken out, and we were told that the Adminis -- by the Administration at the time
that they could handle it and they have since admitted to me that they probably can't.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: So it's been moved and seconded. Commissioner Carollo, do you want to add
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anything on this or --? It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.3 RESOLUTION
12-00272
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Works ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE SOLE BID RECEIVED NOVEMBER 30,
2011, PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BIDS NO. 11-12-003, FROM
ENVIROWASTE SERVICES GROUP, INC., THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "INLET CLEANING
CONTRACT -NORTH ZONE, M-0043", IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $171,030, FOR A TWO (2) YEAR CONTRACT TOTAL OF $342,060;
FURTHER AUTHORIZING UP TO THREE (3) ADDITIONAL ONE (1) YEAR
OPTIONS TO RENEW, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $171,030;
ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS, FROM PUBLIC WORKS GENERAL ACCOUNT
NO. 00001.208000.534000; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE A CONTRACT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR
SAID PURPOSE; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE SAID OPTIONS TO RENEW SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDING AND THE CONTRACTORS PERFORMANCE.
12-00272 Summary Form.pdf
12-00272 Letter - Best & Final Offer.pdf
12-00272 Proposal Bid Form.pdf
12-00272 Supplement to Bid Form.pdf
12-00272 Legislation.pdf
12-00272 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0137
Chair Suarez: RE.3.
Nzeribe Ihekwaba (Director, Public Works): RE.3 is a resolution to award a contract to
Envirowaste Services Group, in an amount not to exceed $171,030, for a two-year contract
totaling $342, 060, for the project entitled Inlet Cleaning North Zone. "This is a contract that will
be responsible for cleaning a substantial portion of the City ofMiami storm drainage system
north ofFlagler Street. The City published an RFP (Request for Proposals) for the solicitation
and two prospective bidders only picked up the packages. One contractor, Envirowaste Services,
was the only bidder that returned a completed package in an amount of $198, 555. Pursuant to
Section 18-85 of the City code, Purchasing requested for a best and final offer, and Envirowaste
Services reduced their offer by $27,525. This is one of the requirements of the NPDES (National
Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) special permits, that the City must clean its entire storm
drainage system once every five years. The last time this area was cleaned was in 2006. What
Public Works operations staff has been doing since then is to response to critical areas of need
and we do actually need this contract in place to assist in responding to emergencies, as well as
during the hurricane response time. The project -- the cleaning maintenance contract will be
funded from the NPDES stormwater utility fees, which is a restricted funding, and the contract
has three options to renew after the first expiring dates.
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Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Any questions?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Gort. Any further discussion?
Hearing none, all in favor, signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Again, another example of that ordinance saving the City ofMiami money and
giving a contract to a local bidder.
RE.4 RESOLUTION
12-00273
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Works ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE SOLE BID RECEIVED NOVEMBER 30,
2011, PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BIDS NO. 11-12-002, FROM
ENVIROWASTE SERVICES GROUP, INC., THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "OUTFALL
CLEANING CONTRACT (2ND BIDDING), M-0045", IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $176,720, FOR A TWO (2) YEAR CONTRACT TOTAL OF
$353,440; FURTHER AUTHORIZING UP TO THREE (3) ADDITIONAL ONE (1)
YEAR OPTIONS TO RENEW, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$176,720; ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS, FROM PUBLIC WORKS GENERAL
ACCOUNT NO. 00001.208000.534000; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
FOR SAID PURPOSE; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE SAID OPTIONS TO RENEW SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDING AND THE CONTRACTORS PERFORMANCE.
12-00273 Summary Form.pdf
12-00273 Letter - Best & Final Offer.pdf
12-00273 Proposal Bid Form.pdf
12-00273 Supplement to Bid Form.pdf
12-00273 Legislation.pdf
12-00273 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
R-12-0138
Chair Suarez: RE.4.
Nzeribe Ihekwaba (Director, Public Works): RE.4 is a resolution to award a contract to
Envirowaste Services Group, in an amount not to exceed 176, 720, for a two-year contract period
of total amount of $353, 440, for the project entitled Outfall Cleaning Contracts (2nd Bidding).
Sometime last fiscal year, Public Works had published an RFP (Request for Proposals) for this
same solicitation and there was only one responsive bidder in an amount that was deemed to be
way beyond the complexity of the job and the solicitation was canceled by the City Manager.
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During the second bid, there were only three prospective bidders that picked up the packages
and only one returned the completed package, which is Envirowaste. Envirowaste happens to be
the current vendor that has been cleaning these systems for the past five years. Pursuant to
Section 18-85 of the City code, the City's authorized to renegotiate the sole bidder for better
pricing or alternatively to rebid. Envirowaste was approached by Purchasing Department
director and has submitted a best and final offer of $176, 220, which is a reduction of $23, 500
from the initial bid. This is being funded by the stormwater utility fees, which is a restricted
funding that could only be used for the specified use. Any questions?
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Coming back to this Commission, is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort. Is there a second? Is there a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by the Vice Chair. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.5 RESOLUTION
12-00275
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Works ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE BID RECEIVED FEBRUARY21, 2012,
PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BIDS NO. 11-12-018, FROM TAW MIAMI
SERVICE CENTER, INC., THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE
BIDDER, FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "STORMWATER PUMP STATIONS
MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, M-0080", IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $435,790; AUTHORIZING UP TO FOUR (4) ADDITIONAL ONE (1)
YEAR OPTIONS TO RENEW, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$435,790; ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS, FROM PUBLIC WORKS GENERAL
ACCOUNT NO. 00001.208000.534000; ALLOWING FOR SCHEDULED
MAJOR SERVICE AND UNSCHEDULED REPAIR ITEMS AS STATED HEREIN
TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, PENDING
NEED AND CONTINGENCY FUNDING AVAILABILITY; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID PURPOSE; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAID OPTIONS TO RENEW SUBJECT TO
THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING AND THE CONTRACTORS
PERFORMANCE.
12-00275 Summary Form.pdf
12-00275 Memo - Special Provisions.pdf
12-00275 Proposal Bid Form.pdf
12-00275 Supplemental to Bid Form.pdf
12-00275 Legislation.pdf
12-00275 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
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R-12-0139
Chair Suarez: RE.5.
Nzeribe Ihekwaba (Director, Public Works): RE.5 is a resolution to award a contract to TAW
Miami Service Center, in an amount not to exceed $435, 790, for the project entitled Stormwater
Pump Station Maintenance Operations and Repairs. "The City published an RFP (Request for
Proposals) for this solicitation. Nine prospective bidders picked up the packages and three
returned the completed packages to the City Clerk. TAW was adjudged to have submitted the
lowest responsive and responsible bid in an amount of $435, 790. The project has up to four
additional one-year options to renew, subject to availability of funding and contractor's
performance. This is a solicitation and the maintenance contract that will be funded strictly from
the stormwater utility fees. For the current fiscal year, it is anticipated that only $181, 000, will
be spent due to timing.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Any questions?
Chair Suarez: Is there a motion?
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor, signifi, by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: RE.6.
Commissioner Gort: I have a question.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F). How much of the stormwater revenue bonds do we
have left? I know at one time we issued bonds for --
Mr. Ihekwaba: I don't have that number. I can find out from Finance.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Thanks.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir.
RE.6 RESOLUTION
12-00271
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Department of Capital A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Improvements ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT FROM
Program THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,800,000,
FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN INDOOR GYMNASIUM TO
BE LOCATED AT GIBSON PARK, 401 NORTHWEST 12TH STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, AND ALL DOCUMENTS
NECESSARY, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR
SAID PURPOSE.
12-00271 Summary Form.pdf
12-00271 Legislation.pdf
12-00271 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0144
Chair Suarez: RE.6.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.6 and RE.7 are companion
items. They're related to the indoor gymnasium at Gibson Park. RE.6 is specific to accepting a
grant from the Southeast Overtown/Park West CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) in the
amount of $2.8 million.
Chair Suarez: You know what, Mr. Sosa. I'm sorry for interrupting you. But I think we'll wait
until the district Commissioner and the CRA chair of that CRA is here.
Mr. Sosa: Very well.
Chair Suarez: I think she may want to be here for this one. So we'll call you back up when she's
here.
Mr. Sosa: Thank you.
[Later...
Chair Suarez: I apologize to the company that has been here for a time certain that has not been
upheld and you all know how punctuall am about these things, but in any event, one of the
Commissioners has requested, who may not be here the whole time, that we take up her items.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, the items that I missed. I think --
Chair Suarez: I think gave it away, who it is. Yeah, RE.6, RE.7, andRE.9, I believe.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to clean the agenda up.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones:- So that's out of the way.
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RE.7
12-00276
Chair Suarez: RE. 6.
Mr. Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE. 6 and RE.7 are companion items.
They're both related to the indoor basketball gym proposed at Gibson Park. These projects --
this project's been in partnership with the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency). RE.6 is
authorizing the acceptance of a grant from the Southeast Overtown/Park West CRA, in an
amount of 2.8 million, for the design, construction, and administration of the indoor gym, to be
located at Gibson Park.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Spence -Jones, second by Commissioner Carollo. Any further
discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, signify by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
Department of Capital A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Improvements ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
Program AMENDMENT NO. 2 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH RECREATIONAL DESIGN
AND CONSTRUCTION, INC., FOR DESIGN BUILD SERVICES FOR THE
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE GIBSON PARK PROJECT,
B-30305B, INCREASING THE AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,498,208,
PLUS A TEN (10) PERCENT OWNER CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF
$249,820.80, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $2,748,028.80, THEREBY
INCREASING THE AWARD VALUE FROM $10,609,805.80 TO AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $13,357,834.60; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PROJECT NO. 92-689001.
12-00276 Summary Form.pdf
12-00276 Letter- ExhibitA.pdf
12-00276 Schedule of Values.pdf
12-00276 Amendment No. 1 to Agmt.pdf
12-00276 Corporate Resolution.pdf
12-00276 Pre-Legislation.pdf
12-00276 Legislation.pdf
12-00276 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0145
Chair Suarez: RE.7.
Albert Sosa (Director/Capitallmprovements Program): RE.7 is a resolution allowing the City
Manager to execute an amendment with the design builder that's currently working at Gibson
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Park, which is Recreational Design & Construction, to design and construct the indoor
basketball gym that the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) is giving us the grant for.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- by Commissioner Spence -Jones, second --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Discussion.
Chair Suarez: -- by Commissioner Gort. Commissioner Spence -Jones, you're recognized.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to make sure that -- I know that we have a company
already on board to do this. I just want to make sure that we definitely keep the local jobs -- and
we talked about this -- and the local subcontractors involved in the project. I do want to
commend you, Albert. You did a great job on the Gibson Project --
Mr. Sosa: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- by making sure that the contractor -- we held his feet to the fire
to make sure local residents had an opportunity to participate in the overall park and it looks
great.
Mr. Sosa: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: When is it going to be ready again?
Mr. Sosa: We're shooting for end of May, beginning of June --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Sosa: -- but it'll be in the next 60 to 90 days --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, great.
Mr. Sosa: -- up and running.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Andl see Pieter Bockweg, the chair of the CRA. I know that
they've been working hard with you, and I'm glad to see, finally, that project is moving to the
next level. Just please make sure that we do have local --
Mr. Sosa: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- job -- local subcontractors and local people from the
community working on that gym.
Mr. Sosa: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I think we had a motion and a second.
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RE.8
12-00274
Department of Parks
and Recreation
Chair Suarez: Yes, there's a mover and a seconder. All in favor, signift by saying "aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE PROJECT
ENTITLED: "SUMMER FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN 2012"
AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME, IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000, CONSISTING OF A
REIMBURSEMENT GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
AGRICULTURE THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
AND CONSUMER SERVICES DIVISION OF FOOD, NUTRITION AND
WELLNESS, TO THE CITY OF MIAMI'S ("CITY'S") DEPARTMENT OF PARKS
AND RECREATION FOR THE SUMMER LUNCH PROGRAM FOR THE
PROVISION OF LUNCHES AND SNACKS TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE
CITY'S 2012 SUMMER PROGRAM; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE A SUMMER FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, AND ALL OTHER NECESSARY
AMENDMENTS, EXTENSIONS, AND MODIFICATIONS AFTER
CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO IMPLEMENT THE
ACCEPTANCE OF AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE GRANT AWARD FOR THE
PERIOD COMMENCING JUNE 11, 2012 THROUGH AUGUST 10, 2012.
12-00274 Summary Form.pdf
12-00274 Summer Lunch & Snack Prgm.pdf
12-00274 2012 SFSP Reimbursement Rates.pdf
12-00274 Legislation.pdf
12-00274 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0140
Chair Suarez: RE (Resolution) -- I guess that would mean RE. 8. RE.8.
Juan Pascual: Thank you very much. Juan Pascual, interim director of Parks Recreation
Department. This item is to accept a grant that's a reimbursement grant from the United States
Department of Agriculture through the Florida State Department of Agriculture and Consumer
Division for Food, Nutrition, and Wellness for $500, 000. It's for our summer lunch and snack
program. We currently are projecting 2,355 kids participating at 34 parks throughout the
system. We added one facility this year, which is Southside Park, which is a new park that will
have a summer program and participate in the summer lunch program and that park is in
District 3.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Is there a motion?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Move it for discussion.
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Chair Suarez: Moved by Vice Chair. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. Vice Chair, you're recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoft Mr. Manager, do we have the capability -- this sounds like a reimbursement
grant. Are you telling us we have the capability of having sufficient funds available and then
seek the reimbursement?
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): I would say yes (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): I'm sorry, Mr. Manager. Mr. Manager, your mike.
Commissioner Gort: You got to speak in the mike.
Mr. Martinez: And the reason I know that is because I'm told we're balanced by the end of the
year, which takes these blitz into account. When the grant is given, then we're reimbursed, but --
Vice Chair Sarnoff As long as you're telling us on the record that we have sufficient capital to
seek the reimbursement, that's all want to hear.
Daniel Alfonso: Daniel Alfonso, Budget director. We're talking about the food program?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Mr. Alfonso: Yes. Yes, we front the cash and we get reimbursed from the federal grant program
and that's how it works.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I appreciate the procedural; now here's the question.
Mr. Alfonso: Yes. The question is do we have enough cash to do it?
Vice Chair Sarnoff On hand.
Mr. Alfonso: I would say at this point, yes. We use from pool cash and we should be able to do
that.
Vice Chair Sarnoff That's all want to hear.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Any further questions?
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner, you're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. And we are on RE.8, correct?
Chair Suarez: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Pascual, you know, this has been something that I have mentioned
year after year with regards to the snacks, how many parks, and so forth. I think last year, you
know, I actually had -- you came up once and our former director came up I think at least twice
with regards to the snack programs because at that time there was no parks in District 3
receiving the snacks. I have looked at the diagram. We're still way below, but at the same time, I
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RE.9
12-00277
Department of Capital
Improvements
Program
also want to appreciate that you have made sure that at least two parks and now a third, even
though that third is very minor, but still it's an improvement, so I just want to thank you for
hearing me over the last couple years with regards to this and, you know, let's keep improving.
So thank you.
Mr. Pascual: Thank you, sir.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right, we have a motion. We had a second. All in favor, please say aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right, let's table RE.9 till the district 5 Commissioner comes back.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING FUNDS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$354,614, CONSISTING OFAGRANTAWARD FROM THE MIAMI-DADE
COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, FOR THE CARIBBEAN
MARKETPLACE PROJECT, B-30671; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CULTURAL FACILITIES GRANT AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, AND ALL OTHER NECESSARY
DOCUMENTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, IN
ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE ACCEPTANCE OF AND COMPLIANCE WITH
SAID GRANTAWARD.
12-00277 Summary Form.pdf
12-00277 Legislation.pdf
12-00277 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0146
Chair Suarez: RE.9.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.9 is a resolution for the City
Manager to accept a grant from Miami -Dade County, Department of Cultural Affairs, for the
construction of Caribbean Marketplace, which is a rehabilitation project of the existing
marketplace in the Little Haiti area.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved. Discussion.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Spence -Jones --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- second by Commissioner Carollo. Commissioner Spence -Jones, you're
recognized.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Once again, thank you guys for -- Albert, for finally moving the
Caribbean Marketplace. The only thing that I want to ask for the City -- of the City Manager is I
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RE.10
12-00293
Department of Capital
Improvements
Program
ask -- I know we have these outdoor marketplaces that have happened throughout our parks,
throughout the City ofMiami. It's extremely important -- in the midst of this, Albert's created
enough space for us to have a temporary outdoor farmer's market, and we've had some
challenges with the Administration on getting that done. I know, Johnny, you said that you
would work to make sure that that's not an issue because we really need the marketplace at least
temporarily open while they do construction on that.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): (INAUDIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, no problem.
Chair Suarez: Okay, it's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signift by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE TO THE PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENTS ("AGREEMENTS") WITH (1) ALLEGUEZ
ARCHITECTURE, INC. ("ALLEGUEZ"), (2) ARCHITEKNICS, INC.
("ARCHITEKNICS"), (3) GILI-MCGRAWARCHITECTS, LLP
("GILI-MCGRAW"), (4) FERGUSON GLASGOW SCHUSTER SOTO, INC.
("FERGUSON GLASGOW") AND (5) RIZO CARRENO & PARTNERS, INC.
("RIZO CARRENO"), FOR THE PROVISION OF MISCELLANEOUS
ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000,
THEREBY INCREASING THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR ALLEGUEZ,
ARCHITEKNICS, GILI-MCGRAWAND FERGUSON GLASGOW FROM
$500,000, TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000, AND INCREASING
THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR RIZO CARRENO FROM $1,000,000,
TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,250,000; ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR
SAID INCREASE, FROM THE APPROPRIATE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROJECTS, ON AN AS -NEEDED BASIS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AMENDMENTS TO THE AGREEMENTS, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM(S), WITH EACH FIRM, FOR SAID
PURPOSES.
12-00293 Summary Form.pdf
12-00293 PSAs.pdf
12-00293Amend. No.1 PSA- Rizo Carreno
12-00293 Corporate Resolution.pdf
12-00293 Pre-Legislation.pdf
12-00293 Legislation.pdf
12-00293 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
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RE.11
12-00294
Department of Capital
Improvements
Program
Vice Chair Sarnoff RE (Resolution) -- this is something -- yeah, RE.10.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.10 is a resolution authorizing
an increase to various professional services agreements we have with our miscellaneous
architectural consultants. We use these consultants to support our ongoing capital program and
to support our in-house staff with architectural design and construction management services.
The increase is in the amount of $250, 000. That's an increase in capacity that allows us to write
work orders in the future to continue with our -- the specific work orders for specific projects as
they come up.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by Commissioner Gort. We have --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- second by Commissioner Carollo. Don't need public discussion. Any
discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye,"
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right, you have a unanimous vote.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $204,444.08,
FROM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FORA DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
ALONG SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A JOINT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID PURPOSE.
12-00294 Summary Form.pdf
12-00294 Legislation.pdf
12-00294 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
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Vice Chair Sarnoff RE.11.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.11 is a resolution authorizing
the City Manager to execute a joint participation agreement with Miami -Dade County for
drainage improvements along South Miami Avenue in the Mary Brickell area. Miami -Dade
County is providing the City with the funding and allowing the City to construct the drainage
improvements on South Miami Avenue, which is a county road, together with our adjacent
projects in the Mary Brickell Village area.
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Chair Suarez: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Motion for discussion.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort, second by Vice Chair. Vice Chair, you're
recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Sosa, there is -- the City is proceeding forward with the streets that are
perpendicular to South Miami Avenue, correct?
Mr. Sosa: That's correct.
Vice Chair Sarnoff And this money would be used for the drainage issues attendant to South
Miami or just for the parallel -- sorry -- perpendicular streets?
Mr. Sosa: This grant from the County is exclusively for the proposed drainage improvements
that would be undertaken on South Miami Avenue, which is the north/south county streets.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay. And as you know, the County doesn't have sufficient funds to take
care of its street, South Miami Avenue, with regard to any kind of streetscaping right now,
correct?
Mr. Sosa: They currently do not have funding identified for the above -ground streetscape
portion of South Miami Avenue in that area.
Vice Chair Sarnoff And 2015I think is the first time we see a funding source there, correct?
Mr. Sosa: I would have to verin, that, but I know in the next three years there's not funding
shown.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So then my question to you would be would -- in any way, shape, or form
would this money be misspent if, in three years, the County was going to do a streetscape
program?
Mr. Sosa: No. These funds are for drainage improvements which are below ground and any
future improvements to the streetscape above would -- this work would not impact that. It
wouldn't be throw -away work or duplication of work.
Vice Chair Sarnoff That's all. I just want the record to be clear on that. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Question. The street improvements, do you have Southeast 1 stAvenue,
which is between 8th Street and all the way to the -- almost 10?
Mr. Sosa: First Avenue -- Southeast 1st is --
Commissioner Gort: First Avenue is all the way from 8th Street to about 13th Street.
Mr. Sosa: We have some -- that's in the area of the Perricone's restaurant. There are some
improvements along 9th, loth and 11 th Street there, yes.
Commissioner Gort: And on loth Street, also?
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Mr. Sosa: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: And the stormwater, that system you're going to place there, we're going to
improve is going to help some of the flooding that takes place in the raining?
Mr. Sosa: Oh, absolutely. I mean, this project is a direct result of the flooding that has been
experienced in that area in the last several years. It includes increase in capacity to the existing
drainage system as well as an installation of a heavy-duty pump station to pump the water out.
Commissioner Gort: Okay, thank you.
Chair Suarez: Mr. Sosa, I just have a couple questions. With this stormwater funds -- I'm going
to support this. I support this. And I'm going to support the -- I believe it's capital -- the capital
item. But both of them have stormwater funds in different districts, and the only thing that I
would ask -- and) asked you this privately -- is, you know, to take a look at all the districts
'cause as you know -- we've spoken and I've communicated with you on a variety of different
occasions -- that there's severe flooding in certain areas in my district, severe, like can't even
drive a car through it. So you know, we're doing the best that we can with the bond money that
we have and all that, but I'm running out of bond money, so you know, it's -- this is a source of
funds that, you know, we all rely on as a city, citywide. So I'm going to support it. I'm going to
support the other one, but, you know, please, you know, let's kind of take an equitable view of
this. Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: That's why I asked the question, because I know there was a bond issuance
done about ten or fifteen years ago which all the expenditure did not take place because of
people in the neighborhood where there was going to be used did not want the stormwater
improvement to take place, so I want to know how much was left of those bonds.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Sosa: We'll review that. Thank you.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Mr. Chair, can I just make --
Chair Suarez: Yes, of course.
Mr. Martinez: -- a comment? This is an example of something) brought up to the former
Manager Migoya, to take advantage of efficiencies. When we're going to have a project and
another agency is going to have a nearby project, we do a joint project agreement and do it
together so there's only one contractor out there and there's more efficiency. And as far as the
public's concerned, they're only seeing the streets torn up once instead of once by our project
and once --
Chair Suarez: That makes sense.
Mr. Martinez: -- by someone else, so this is an example of that.
Chair Suarez: No, that makes sense. And by the way, you know, we spoke specifically about the
projects and) think they're both worthy projects, which is why I support it. I just -- you know,
since it's citywide funding, you know, it would be nice if there was some thought to how we're
going to share it among districts. Because I could tell you -- like I've said and I've sent him the
text messages every time, you know, that there's a huge rain event. In my district there are areas
that are -- you know, have severe flooding problems, and one of the few things that I would like
to get accomplished before I leave here is to get that solved. So Commissioner Gort, do you
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want to chime back in?
Commissioner Gort: Well, my understanding, there might be about $25 million left on those
bond issues, andl don't know if that could be used citywide, so that's why I want to get the
numbers back.
Mr. Sosa: I'll review that.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Maybe we should put it as a discussion item so that we can -- yeah, so we
don't forget about it or anything. Okay, thank you. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: It was moved.
Chair Suarez: Has it been --
Commissioner Carollo: Moved.
Chair Suarez: -- it's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor, signift by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ADDING CAPITAL PROJECTS APPROPRIATIONS TO
THOSE LISTED IN RESOLUTION NO. 12-0084, ADOPTED MARCH 08, 2012,
AND REVISING CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS AMONG APPROVED
PROJECTS; FURTHER APPROPRIATING FUNDING FOR THE ADDED
PROJECTS.
12-00296 Summary Form.pdf
12-00296 Legislation.pdf
12-00296 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: RE.12.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.12 is our standard
appropriations item where we reallocate funds between existing projects and assign new funding
to projects. We have several projects in this one, including some rehabilitation of two pump
stations. We also have the grant that we just spoke about from the County for South Miami
Avenue, for example. It's being allocated as part of this appropriations item. We're also
allocating fundsfrom the County for Caribbean Marketplace. We have some citywide storm
sewer repairs for Public Works, et cetera.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Coming back to this Commission, is there a motion?
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Vice Chair Sarnoft So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second for discussion.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Carollo for discussion.
Commissioner Carollo, you're recognized.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. There is one citywide allocation here of almost $400, 000
for Parks and Recreation. I think I've been quite vocal with regards to District 3 parks and the
amount of funding. So is this $400, 000 already established and what's it going to be used for,
other than just Parks and Recreation? Like can you give me more meat in the bone?
Mr. Sosa: Generally speaking, these funds are allocated to the Parks Department for their
ongoing needs. I'd have to defer to the Parks Department on any specific projects that these are
intended to be used for.
Juan Pascual: Juan Pascual, interim director of Parks and Recreation. The money is put into
one B-account and we use it for minor projects, minor projects being expansion or new projects.
We typically do playgrounds. We might do some additions to programming capacity, such as
computers or computer labs. We do have an extensive list that's well beyond the needs of the
available funds for it. Some examples are at Henderson Park, we have a proposal that we've
been analyzing to install an artificial mini soccer field at Henderson and that cost --
Commissioner Carollo: By the way, I donated -- well, I didn't donate. Bayfront Park
Management Trust donated --
Mr. Pascual: The soccer goals.
Commissioner Carollo: -- the soccer goals.
Mr. Pascual: Yes, sir. What's happened in Henderson is that it's overused. So by it being
overused, we have to re -sod on a regular reoccurring basis, so that's the investment money, labor
and materials, plus down time of the facility that's not available, so we have two facilities. For
example, at Shenandoah Park we have the same situation. We're using the CIP (Capital
Improvement Programs) project at Shenandoah between the pool, the fire station, to install an
artificial mini soccer field there. We don't have funds for Henderson. So we have Henderson as
one of the facilities that's unfunded from the regular CIP projects that we can use these impact
fees for. We have, for example, lighting at some of the playgrounds. We have some playgrounds
that have deficient lighting, so we want to do new lighting at some of the playgrounds and they
average between 10 to maybe $15, 000 for those. Jose Marti Park is one, Grapeland Park is
another one, Duarte Park is another one where we're doing lighting on the list that impact fee
monies can be used for that are -- that CIP monies are not available.
Commissioner Carollo: Do you have an itemized of -- itemization of that list so I could see --
Mr. Pascual: I can get a list --
Commissioner Carollo: -- how these --?
Mr. Pascual: -- to you, sir, of what's on the radar. Like I said the available 397,100 is not
sufficient so we have to kind of prioritize what we do this year and what we can do next year.
Commissioner Carollo: Right. But -- I mean, I'm sure if we look at the $20 million, or whatever,
of Park budget, I think a large majority of it is not going to District 3. I mean, I think we're
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getting, you know, a very small share of it. And not only that, you said it yourself right now, that
we need more grass in Henderson Park because of the over usage. That seems to me like maybe
we need another park because this one park is being overused because there's no other parks.
So I just want to make sure -- and when you say about computer and computer labs, you know,
that's something that I want to make sure it's pointed out because pretty soon we're going to have
a new computer lab in District 3 andl want to make sure that the funds are available with
regards to Internet usage so that's why I'm making sure -- and in the past it's come back and, you
know -- it's come back to bite me when there's an amount this big andl ask for an itemized list
and it's more like, oh, we'll worry about it later, and then all of a sudden, you know, when we
actually see what that money's for, it's not what think maybe should have gone for so that's why
I'm asking. And I'm putting on the record, you know, we're soon going to have computer labs in
District 3 andl want to make sure some of these parks monies can go for that because when they
tell me, oh, Commissioner, yeah, we could use the money for a computer lab, except it's only
going to be opened for six months because we're not going to have any more money for Internet
usage, I think that -- you know, realistically, no. There -- you know, more of that share should go
to District 3. And it's not something that I'm saying new. I've been saying it for I don't know --
ever since I've been here with regards to, you know, we need to get our fair share in District 3
with regard to parks, you know. It is a very poor area and, you know, we have very needy, you
know, families and kids that, you know, need these parks. And again, you're saying that, you
know, the over usage and we have to replace grass, that means to tell me we need more parks.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: I just want to say that, you know, again, on this item -- the last item was
stormwater utility, which is a citywide fund being used in District 2. In this item it's local option
gas tax being used in District 3. So you know, it's half a million dollars, which is fine, and
again, I support it, and I've spoken to the director and he's explained to me the need andl think
it -- the need exists. But you know, again, I just reiterate the same point, you know, that this -- it
has to be done equitably, just like you fight for park money andl think, you know, it's on me to
fight for my district for, you know, those funds as well. So I just want to put that --
Mr. Pascual: IfI just might say, Commissioner -- directed at Commissioner Carollo through the
chair.
Chair Suarez: Actually, you know what, let me just say one more thing. He's right about the fact
that we need more parks, obviously.
Mr. Pascual: Absolutely.
Chair Suarez: And Shenandoah, we -- you and I have had discussions about the same issue in
Shenandoah Park, that we need to do an artificial field in Shenandoah Park because it gets torn
up and has to be continually re -sodded and it's a huge operating expense so I -- you know,
obviously I agree with the Commissioner, his sentiment of --
Mr. Pascual: There's no doubt, and we agree and we understand. We want to work with the
Commissioner and with all of you in identfing those projects that are needed in each one of the
districts, and you know, our commitment is to do that. And we will provide you a list of the items
that we have that we feel based upon the feedback that we've gotten from the community and
identifi, those that are unfunded through CIP (Capital Improvement Programs) and we can then
go forward and make decisions as to what projects are prioritized.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
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Commissioner Carollo: And l just want to add to that. When you say that we've received from
the community, I can tell you that, at least in my district, when the communities have needs, they
call our office.
Mr. Pascual: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: We field a lot of phone calls. So I think -- you know, I think my office
can be a very good source of resource or suggestions with regards to the needs also so --
Mr. Pascual: No.
Commissioner Carollo: -- I ask that you work with my office.
Mr. Pascual: No, absolutely Commissioner. When I said we, we as the Parks Department will
have recommendations, obviously, working with each of the districts. You have your
recommendations and we can work together in coming up with a final list of priorities, yes, sir.
Chair Suarez: And by the way, you know, Commissioner mentioned that the Bayfront Park
Management Trust bought soccer goals for Henderson Park.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, they actually did not buy soccer goals. They donated soccer goals
that they had.
Chair Suarez: Oh, they donated the ones that they had?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay, 'cause we needed some in Shenandoah too and we ended up having to buy
them but that's a whole 'nother issue. But you know, your point is well taken. You know, we have
to be fair with all these things, whether it's, you know, citywide funding, whether it's another
organization that's coming and helping and donating their, you know, in -kind stuff. Anyhow, it's
been moved and seconded. All in favor, signift--
Commissioner Gort: Wait.
Chair Suarez: -- by saying aye."
Commissioner Gort: I have a question.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Have we looked at the use of artificial grass if it's worth us doing that?
Using artificial grass, like they do in the --
Mr. Pascual: Well, it's in a limited area. For example, I'll give you the Curtis football stadium
scenario.
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Pascual: Curtis football stadium was Bermuda grass when it was first constructed. We had
to basically re -sod the facility every year. So with the down time, lack of revenue coming in
because we couldn't rent the facility during the down time, plus it was costing us on the
maintenance end. Since the artificial turf has been installed at Curtis football stadium, we've
had basically zero maintenance, other than just the regular routine grooming of the facility, so
we have substantial savings. So the artificial turf at Curtis when it was installed was estimated
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on a buy-back on about a four -and -a -half year period, five-year period. With the new turf that's
available, which is more recreational turf --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Pascual: -- the buy-back there would probably be more on a three-year period.
Chair Suarez: It's --
Commissioner Gort: Okay, good.
Chair Suarez: -- been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor,
signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING A PAYMENT TO THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $2,147,208.87, FROM ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS
INSURANCE COMPANY, INC., THE INSURANCE CARRIER FOR TIMOTHY
HAAHS & ASSOCIATES, INC.'S ("HAAHS"), IN FULL SETTLEMENT OF ALL
CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST LEO A. DALY AND HAAHS, ARISING OUT
OF, OR RELATED TO, DEFECTS IN THE SOFFIT BEAMS OF THE PARKING
GARAGES LOCATED AT MARLINS STADIUM; FURTHER DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE
AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, AND ALL
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, TO EFFECTUATE THE SETTLEMENT; ALLOCATING SAID
FUNDS TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. B-30648.
12-00142 Summary Form.pdf
12-00142 Letter - Structural Deficiencies.pdf
12-00142 Letter - Miami Marlins Ballpark.pdf
12-00142 Legislation.pdf
12-00142 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: Is there any other ones, Commissioner Spence -Jones, that you want us to take up?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I'm -- just want to make sure, did we cut -- clean all the
items? Did -- we did RE.10 -- all -- while I was gone? There's nothing left on the agenda?
Chair Suarez: No, no. Yeah, there's plenty of other things on the agenda.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
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Commissioner Carollo: I think we're on RE.13.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, we can -- if you want us to keep going down the line --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, let's get it out of the way.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And then we can deal with the --
Chair Suarez: RE.13.
Commissioner Carollo: Albert Sosa.
Albert Sosa: Albert Sosa, director of Capital Improvements. RE.13 is a resolution authorizing
the City Manager to enter into a settlement agreement and receive the settlement amount of
approximately $2.147 million, related to the issue we had last year at the Marlins parking
garages, related to structural cracks. This item makes the City whole in terms of our hard costs
and the soft costs that we incurred in the remediation of those cracks.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo. Is there a second?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Carollo: Discussion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, discussion.
Chair Suarez: You're recognized, Commissioner Carollo, and then Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. And l just want to put for the record -- andl have Director
Sosa mention that this is actually monies that -- I don't know if it's the insurance company, but
this is actually monies to pay for everything that dealt with the cracks. This is -- so it will be at
no cost to the City whatsoever, correct?
Mr. Sosa: That's correct. This is a full and complete settlement, which includes the physical
costs that we incurred in remediating the damage -- or not the damage, excuse me, the
deficiencies, as well as the additional inspection costs and the additional plans review costs, et
cetera, that we incurred.
Commissioner Carollo: And this is to accept the monies for a full payment to reimburse the City
so that it would be at no cost to the City, correct?
Mr. Sosa: That's correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The only thing that I want to add, Mr. Chairman --
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Chair Suarez: Sure, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- on this issue because I wanted to make sure that there was
clarity. I know in the very beginning) had a big issue with this -- even supporting this particular
item regarding the -- getting the reimbursement back, and) know you assured me.
Commissioner, no, it's going to happen, it's going to happen. So I want -- I just want to make
sure the public understands that this is not new money or anything of that for the stadium. This
is us actually getting money back from the insurance --
Mr. Sosa: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- related issues, something we talked about a few months ago that
was big concern based upon the construction issue that we were having on the garage.
Mr. Sosa: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Correct?
Mr. Sosa: Correct.
Chair Suarez: and) want to take the opportunity to commend Director Sosa because -- for two
things: The first, getting 100 percent reimbursement without any litigation, without any dispute;
and second, for doing it so efficiently and quickly. I mean, I remember this issue came up not
that long ago so.
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly. No, no, I agree with you and) think) also need to mention
Robert Fenton. He's the --
Chair Suarez: True.
Commissioner Carollo: -- project manager from the City's point of view.
Chair Suarez: True.
Commissioner Carollo: And from the beginning, he was really, you know, in the forefront with
Director Sosa, but he really, you know, did the day-to-day work to make sure that exactly what
was needed will be reimbursed.
Mr. Sosa: No, absolutely. We have to thank Robert Fenton, as well as Veronica Xiques from the
Law Department, who worked very diligently on getting this accomplished. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.14 RESOLUTION
12-00317
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Building ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE RESPONSES RECEIVED, PURSUANT
TO REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ("RFQ") NO. 287259, AND
APPROVING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PRE -QUALIFICATION LIST
COMPRISED OF ELEVEN (11) QUALIFIED PROPOSERS, AS LISTED
ALPHABETICALLY IN "EXHIBIT A," ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, TO
PROVIDE DEMOLITION SERVICES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING
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AND OTHER CITY OF MIAMI ("CITY")DEPARTMENTS, ON AN AS -NEEDED
BASIS, FOR AN INITIAL PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, WITH CONDITIONS
AS STATED HEREIN, AND WITH AUTOMATIC ANNUAL EXTENSIONS UNTIL
SUCH TIME AS IT IS DEEMED IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO
ISSUE A NEW SOLICITATION; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE VARIOUS
SOURCES, SUBJECT TO BUDGETARY APPROVAL AT THE TIME OF NEED;
FURTHER AUTHORIZING, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RFQ, THE ABILITY
TO ADD QUALIFIED FIRMS OR INDIVIDUALS TO THE CONTRACT WHEN
DEEMED IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST WITHOUT FURTHER CITY
COMMISSION AUTHORIZATION.
12-00317 Summary Form.pdf
12-00317Award Recommendation Form.pdf
12-00317 Request for Qualification.pdf
12-00317 Addendum No. 1 & 2. pdf
12-00317 Legislation.pdf
12-00317 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0148
Chair Suarez: RE.14.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Building.
Mariano Fernandez: Mariano Fernandez, Building director.
Chair Suarez: Missed you, buddy. Haven't seen you in a while.
Mr. Fernandez: Yeah. I don't have too many issues anymore. This is a resolution accepting 11
contractors (UNINTELLIGIBLE) having a pool for demolition uses, as budget approves.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo. Is there a second?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Any discussion. I just want to say thank
you.
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you, sir.
Chair Suarez: This is going to do two things: One, it's going to make it quicker; and two, it's
going to save money for the City, so really appreciate you taking the leadership on this and
following through on it. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Fernandez: Thank you.
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RE.15 RESOLUTION
12-00347
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
Attorney DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO AND ON BEHALF OF EMILIO
VALENZUELA, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED BY CHAPTER
440, FLORIDA STATUTES, THE TOTAL SUM OF $125,000, IN FULL
SETTLEMENT OF ALL CLAIMS AND DATES OF ACCIDENT ALLEGED
AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, ITS OFFICERS, AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES,
WITHOUT ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, UPON EXECUTING A SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT AND GENERAL RELEASE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AND ITS
PRESENT AND FORMER OFFICERS, AGENTS, AND EMPLOYEES, FROM
ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS, ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM
ACCOUNT NO. 05002.301001.524000.0000.00000.
12-00347 Memo - Office of the City Attorney. pdf
12-00347 Memo - Financial Signoff.pdf
12-00347 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
R-12-0149
Chair Suarez: RE.4 -- I'm sorry. RE.15.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: City Attorney.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): This is a settlement. You were individually briefed. It
is the settlement on a workers' comp claim. We recommend this settlement as presented to you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Vice Chair Sarnoff, second by Commissioner Gort. All in favor, sign
by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.16 RESOLUTION
12-00349
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
Attorney EXPENDITURE OF ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS FOR THE
ENGAGEMENT OF THE LAW OFFICE OF ROBERT GLAZIER FOR
REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI IN THE CASE OF GERALD
LELIEVE VS. MANUEL OROSA, ETAL., PENDING IN THE UNITED STATES
DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, CASE
NO.:10-23677-CIV-ALTONAGA; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM ACCOUNT NO.
05002.301001.545000.0000.00000.
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12-00349 Memo - Office of the City Attorney. pdf
12-00349 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0150
Chair Suarez: RE.16.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Mr. Chair, RE.16 is my request for authority to retain outside
counsel to represent the City ofMiami in the case of GeraldLelieve versus Manuel Orosa. It's a
case that recently went to trial in the federal court. There was a judgment. A verdict came back
finding the City liable under a Monell claim, under a civil rights claim, and also finding a police
officer that we were representing liable. Because a conflict has arisen now, we cannot continue
to represent the City or the officer. The officer, I believe, is going to obtain representation from
the FOP (Fraternal Order ofPolice), I believe, and we're seeking representation now for the City
for the appeal. There are good grounds for appeal. I intend to hire Robert Glazier, who has
done very well for the City in the past, and I've negotiated a very reasonable rate of $250 an
hour.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Is there a motion?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So moved.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved. Discussion.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Spence -Jones, second by the Vice Chair. Commissioner
Spence -Jones, you're recognized
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to be clear, Julie, because it's saying basically versus
Manuel Orosa, the Chief.
Ms. Bru: No, it's not --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: It's not --
Ms. Bru: -- against the Chief. He's been named as the Chief of Police --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Because he -- it was under --
Ms. Bru: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- his tenure.
Ms. Bru: -- in his official capacity, which really is a lawsuit against the City.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: City, okay.
Commissioner Gort: It's part of their job.
Chair Suarez: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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RE.17 RESOLUTION
12-00342
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION MAKING AMENDMENTS
Management and TO APPROPRIATIONS RELATING TO OPERATIONAL AND BUDGETARY
Budget REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2011.
12-00342 Summary Form.pdf
12-00342 Memo - Year -End Budget Amendment.pdf
12-00342 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0151
Chair Suarez: RE.17.
Daniel Alfonso: Danny Alfonso, Budget director, City ofMiami. RE.17 is a resolution for the
year-end closeout of fiscal year '10/'11. I'll be glad to answer any questions referencing that.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Danny, just real quick. I just want to put it --
Chair Suarez: Go for it.
Commissioner Carollo: -- for the record because, you know, we have stated during the budget
we were only going to provide funding of $100, 000 for Gusman. However, it didn't get started
enough. Andl don't want to get into a big discussion about this, but what is the actual amount
that we are -- you're asking us now to adjust our budget and actually fund Gusman?
Mr. Alfonso: In the year-end closing item, we're adding $216, 000 to fund Gusman Center.
Commissioner Carollo: So what you're saying is originally it was 100, 000. We said we were not
going to give anymore monies because this 501(3) [sic] was going to come in. We heard this
morning about the timing or I don't know what's happened, but the bottom line is that you're
coming back to us and now asking for an additional $216, 000, for a total of $316, 000 to fund
Gusman. Correct?
Mr. Alfonso: Correct.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved. That's very interesting --
Chair Suarez: Point.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
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Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by the man with the glasses, the Vice Chair. I'm sorry.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And the little canary.
Chair Suarez: All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.18 RESOLUTION
12-00201
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Attorney ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY
AND ALL DOCUMENTS CANCELING AND TERMINATING THE LEASE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND OLYMPIA BUILDING
PARTNERSHIP, LTD., INCLUDING TERMINATION AND CANCELLATION OF
THE SUBLEASE WITH OLYMPIA RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PARTNERS, LTD.,
TRANSFERRING POSSESSION OF THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF MIAMI, ASSIGNING ALL EXISTING
COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TENANT LEASES TO THE CITY OF
MIAMI, RELEASING OLYMPIA BUILDING PARTNERSHIP, LTD., OF ALL
COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND OBLIGATIONS ARISING UNDER THE
LEASE, SATISFYING LEASEHOLD MORTGAGES, AND ACCEPTING THE
TRANSFER OF TENANT SECURITY DEPOSIT FUNDS FROM OLYMPIA
BUILDING PARTNERSHIP, LTD., IN SETTLEMENT OF ANY AND ALL CLAIMS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE OLYMPIA BUILDING PARTNERSHIP, LTD., IN
THE CASE OF CITY OF MIAMI VS. OLYMPIA BUILDING PARTNERSHIP,
LTD., PENDING IN THE CIRCUIT COURT IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE
COUNTY, CASE NO. 03-28667-CA-27.
12-00201 Cover Page (05/10/12).pdf
12-00201 Memo - Office of the City Attorney. pdf
12-00201 Legislation.pdf
12-00201 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item RE.18 was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April
26, 2012.
RE.19 RESOLUTION
12-00363
Department of Public A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Facilities ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FORA FIFTEEN (15) YEAR INITIAL TERM, WITH UP TO THREE
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RE.20
12-00371
City Commission
(3) FIFTEEN (15) YEAR TERM OPTIONS TO RENEW, WITH OLYMPIA
CENTER, INC., A FLORIDA 501(c)(3) NOT -FOR -PROFIT ORGANIZATION
FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT OF THE
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL PORTION OF THE HISTORIC
GUSMAN CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS PROPERTY LOCATED AT
174 EAST FLAGLER STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA 33131; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL OTHER
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSE, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE
TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO COMPLY WITH REQUIREMENTS OF THE
INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986, AS AMENDED, THE CITY OF MIAMI'S
OBLIGATION UNDER THE SUNSHINE STATE LOAN POOL PROGRAM AND
THE CITY OF MIAMI'S HOMELAND DEFENSE/NEIGHBORHOOD CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS BOND PROGRAM, SUBJECT TO AN APPROVING
OPINION OF BOND COUNSEL.
12-00363 Cover Page (05/10/12).pdf
12-00363 Summary Form.pdf
12-00363 Legislation (Version 2).pdf
12-00363 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item RE.19 was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April
26, 2012.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPOINTING TED GUBAAS THE INDEPENDENT
AUDITOR GENERAL OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FORA FOUR-YEAR
PERIOD, COMMENCING MAY7, 2012, AND SETTING THE SALARY AND
BENEFITS TO BE RECEIVED.
12-00371 Legislation.pdf
12-00371 Exhibit 1 Prior to Meeting.pdf
12-00371-Exhibit 1 SUB.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0152
Chair Suarez: RE.20. Vice Chair, this is yours. I'm sorry. Commissioner Carollo, this is yours.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. This is the -- approving the appointment of Ted Guba and
also the settlement with his salaries. Let me pass it out. Give me a second, please.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We already know you were a tough negotiator, right?
Commissioner Carollo: Well, what I thought was going to be a quick session, ended up being
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hours, so it took a few hours in negotiations. But I think it's something reasonable, even though
some or many will say that what we negotiated is actually below market for this position, but at
the same time, you know, Mr. Guba understands that we're all public servants and he
understands the financial situation with the City ofMiami. And what we did state is that, you
know, in 12 months we'll renegotiate to see what's the position of the City at that time. But you
will see in the salary the predecessor auditor was making a salary of close to $183, 000. We
settled with Mr. Guba for 145, 000. As far as car allowance, the predecessor had a car
allowance of $800 per month; Mr. Guba will be receiving $500 per month. The phone
allowance stayed the same. When we talk about his insurance, we have what most executives
make, and that will stay the same. With regards to leave time, first of all, I want to point out that
all leave time will be use it or lose it. And the predecessor had 45 days of vacation time; Mr.
Guba will receive 20 days of vacation time. Sick time: the predecessor had 12 days; Mr. Guba
will receive 10 days. Holidays will remain the same. It'll be 11 days, andl think it's very
important that we stipulate that it's on a use it or lose it. As far as severance, the previous
auditor general had a severance package of six months. There will be no severance package
with Mr. Guba. And as far as retirement, the predecessor had two different types of retirement.
Mr. Guba will receive the retirement 401 a plan, which is what I've been told all executives are
offered. So this is what's before you for your consideration andl welcome, you know, any --
Chair Suarez: You want to make a motion?
Commissioner Carollo: I'll make a motion that we accept this. And when I make a motion --
and, Madam City Attorney, you may want to help me. There is one thing. He did request that the
commencement date be May 7. He stated that he wants to move inside the City ofMiami -- into
the City ofMiami, so in the mean time, he's moving and doing everything he needs to do to
actually move to the City of Miami, which I think is a plus. So he requested that his
commencement date be May 7. So with that said, I will make a motion -- and give me a second --
to pass the resolution ofMiami City Commission, with attachments, appointing Ted Guba as the
independent auditor general of the City ofMiami, Florida, for a four-year period, commencing
May 7, 2012, and setting salary and benefits to be received in said attachment. I do want to
point out said salaries and benefits are subject to renegotiations in 12 months. That's my motion.
Chair Suarez: There's a motion by Commissioner Carollo. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Second for discussion.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. Vice Chair, you're recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Just what is the retirement -- what is a 401 a plan? What is our normal
executive 401a retirement plan?
Commissioner Carollo: I could answer that, but I'd rather have our Risk Management director
come up.
Calvin Ellis: Calvin Ellis, director of Risk Management.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So I'm an executive at City of Miami. I'm making $145, 000 a year. What is
my 401 a plan?
Mr. Ellis: Well, it's structured currently that the employee contributes -- it's a defined
contribution -- 10 percent and the City matches 8 percent of that.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So 8 percent of 145 from the -- so he's got to put the 10 percent in --
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Chair Suarez: It's the legal maximum, right?
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- for us to match the 8?
Mr. Ellis: Correct.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So he would be obligated to put 14,500 in and then we would match about
10,000 or something dollar from that, right?
Mr. Ellis: Correct, up to a maximum, depending of the salary structure of 50, 000 for the 2012.
Vice Chair Sarnoff What -- whoa, whoa, whoa. What does that mean? Up to a max --
Mr. Ellis: I mean, that's the maximum allowable by our code as far as a 401 a program.
Commissioner Carollo: And this was offered to all executives, correct?
Mr. Ellis: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Carollo: And this is what's offered to all executives, correct?
Mr. Ellis: All executives employed after October 2009. Prior to 2009 there was an option that
they could participate in the pension, the GESE (General Employees and Sanitation Employees)
pension.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I'm not being critical. I just -- I want to make sure I understand it. The
maximum that the City pays is approximately $10,000 and the maximum he could put in is
14,500?
Mr. Ellis: Correct.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Twenty-four thousand.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. It's been moved and second. Any further discussion?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Before you take a vote, please, Chair.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Just wanting to check with the City Attorney to make sure that because this
particular resolution was presented without the commencement date that I'll be showing this as a
modified resolution once you take the vote. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Madam Clerk. And l just want to say before we vote -- I want to make
a couple comments. First of all, I want to commend Commissioner Carollo first for getting it
done as quickly as he did, and secondly, for the negotiation. I used to think was the best salary
negotiator in the City, but I don't know. I think you're giving me competition. And you know,
one thing that I think we need to think about in the future once we have a new Clerk, once we
have a new City Attorney, once we have a new -- or independent auditor is we need to think
about maybe not using this term sheet, okay. Either we have it at will as the County -- you know,
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as Murray Greenberg did for a long time at the County, or we have an actual employment
contract 'cause this is ripe for litigation. We got litigated on this on the Jorge Fernandez case
and we've continued to use it. I'm not saying, you know -- not saying -- I mean, it's very simple
and it's very nice and easy to understand, but it's kind of like an invitation to litigation, so just in
the future as we, you know, change these things, it may be something to look at.
Commissioner Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: You know, I leave that to the attorneys. I will tell you, sometimes it
makes it difficult because -- I mean, if you see in the term sheets, the former auditor also had
earned personal leave, you know. So when you see you have an additional two days of earned
personal leave, you know, you struggle with that because these are things that you have to
negotiate and say no, no, we're not offering that anymore and -- you know, and I think -- as you
said, if we just have a contract, I think -- again, I leave it to the attorneys, butl think it'll be --
make it much easier with the negotiations.
Chair Suarez: Absolutely, absolutely. And let me tell you, I commend you on a number of these
items and it's certainly in line with my philosophy. Andl love the fact that he's moving into the
City of Miami. I think that's fantastic.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Chair Suarez: So --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Whose district?
Commissioner Carollo: It actually may be your district, but that's still undecided.
Chair Suarez: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Thompson: As modified.
Chair Suarez: As modified.
Commissioner Carollo: As modified. Thank you.
RE.21 RESOLUTION
12-00364
Department of Human A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING
Resources SEVERANCE PAY TO ERNEST BURKEEN FOR HIS SEPARATION FROM
SERVICE FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI'S DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION, SUBJECT TO HIS EXECUTION OF AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT,
WAIVER AND RELEASE AGREEMENT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE
CITY ATTORNEY.
12-00364 Summary Form.pdf
12-00364 Legislation Ordinance 13289.pdf
12-00364 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Noes: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
R-12-0153
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
RECONSIDERED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Spence -Jones
Chair Suarez: RE.21.
Beverly Pruitt (Director): Beverly Pruitt, Human Resources Department. This is a resolution for
the City Commission's consideration, authorizing payment of severance to Ernest Burkeen for his
separation from service in the Parks & Recreation Department with the City ofMiami.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Coming back to this Commission, is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Spence -Jones, second --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Suarez: -- by the Vice Chair. Any comments?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: You are recognized, Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. Andl want to point this out because it seems like it's only a
few weeks that we had this discussion. I'm seeing here in the agenda item summary form,
budgetary impact and all this. It was my understanding -- andl need to go back to, I guess, the
minutes. But it was my understanding that anything that had a budgetarial [sic] impact should
have gone to the Budget director. I don't see him signing off. And even worse, I see here, is this
item related to revenues? No. Is this item an expenditure? No. You know, this is -- actually, it
does have a budget impact and you're saying it does not, so I want to start off with that.
Procedurally, I thought we cured the problem we had remedied and I'm seeing that, once again,
this comes before us with no signature from the Budget director, erroneous information, 'cause
this actually does have a fiscal impact. So I do want to point that out.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) andl apologize for that.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): I'm sorry. The mike -- I'm sorry, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Martinez: I apologize for that. We did agree that anything with a budget impact would have
the Budget director's initials on it andl apologize for that. I was concentrating more on the
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content than the form, but we did agree to initial off on that.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Manager. There's two things about this thatl really like. The
first is we -- you know, let's talk about some good things. The first is that, you know, there was
some massive severance payments that were made without City Commission approval, andl
think we were very harsh at the time in our, you know, condemning that, and we even legislated
it to prevent it from happening, so I'm very heartened by the fact that you're bringing this to the
Commission, as you should and as you're required to. The second thing is that it's a very, very,
very small sum of money in comparison with the other severances that I'm talking about. I mean,
it's like one -tenth of the other severances that I'm talking about. And obviously, me being as
conservative as I am, I kind of like Commissioner Carollo negotiating no severance on the
auditor general so that would have, of course, been my preference. But I think you made a very
impassioned plea as to why this should be given and you kind of won me over. All in favor,
signify by saying aye."Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Aye.
Commissioner Carollo: No.
Chair Suarez: Please register Commissioner Carollo as a no.
Commissioner Carollo: I think we finished the REs (Resolutions).
Chair Suarez: We're done with the REs.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: Commissioner -- what I'd like to do, if we can -- this is a housekeeping clean-up.
We have to revisit RE.21, so we need a motion to reconsider RE.21 because -- moved by the Vice
Chair. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Motion to reconsider passes. Now we need to move it so that Section 2 reads
equal to, I think, three weeks. Is that right? Is it six weeks? Six weeks? That's right, it is six
weeks. It is six weeks. It's three periods is what it is, right?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Can I also put an amendment in that?
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. And that -- well, we're talking about it.
Chair Suarez: Are you going to second your amendment, though?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Let me make a motion to approve this but also get a full and complete
release from Mr. Burkeen.
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Chair Suarez: That's fine.
Commissioner Gort: Definitely.
Ms. Thompson: That's already in there.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. So --
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Was that part of it?
Chair Suarez: -- the motion is to -- but also have to include the six -- the number six of six weeks
on the reso so that's why we had to reconsider it. So there's a motion by the Vice Chair, a second
by Commissioner Gort. Is that right, Commissioner Gort?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Yes. Okay, all in favor, sign y by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Okay, so we got that out of the way.
END OF RESOLUTIONS
BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
RESOLUTION
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE ARTS AND
ENTERTAINMENT COUNCIL FOR TERMS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Eduardo Cantera Mayor Tomas Regalado
Howard Miller Mayor Tomas Regalado
Vicente Lago, Jr. Chairman Francis Suarez
12-00283 Arts CCMemo.pdf
12-00283 Arts Current Board Members. pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0154
A motion was made by Vice Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, with Commissioner Spence -Jones absent, to appoint Vicente Lago, Jr. as a
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member of the Arts and Entertainment Council; further waiving the attendance requirements in
Section 2-886 of the Code of the City ofMiami, as amended, by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of the
members of the City Commission, as it relates to past absences on record for Vicente Lago, Jr. as
a member of the Arts and Entertainment Council.
Chair Suarez: Okay, let's -- yeah. No. Yeah, let's do the BCs (Boards and Committees). Let's
try to do -- can we do BCs, Madam Clerk?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Let's go.
Ms. Thompson: If you --
Chair Suarez: I thought Todd was doing it.
Ms. Thompson: If you would be so kind as to give me your approval, I would like for our
assistant City Clerk, Todd Hannon, to handle the BC section of the agenda.
Chair Suarez: No.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Todd.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Just kidding.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Todd, ten minutes. If you get --
Chair Suarez: Todd.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- it done in ten minutes --
Chair Suarez: He -- you know what, we had -- listen, I'm going to say something on this.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I'm going to incentivize him.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Suarez takes you to Locale.
Chair Suarez: Look -- no. Here's the thing, though. Him and I agreed on 20 because what
happened was Madam Clerk last time said 10 and it actually took about 28 minutes so --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Watch him go. Ten minutes --
Chair Suarez: What?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- is Locale --
Chair Suarez: What?
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Vice Chair Sarnoff -- on him.
Chair Suarez: What are you going to say?
Ms. Thompson: In Madam Clerk's defense, if you should allow me to say so, at times there was a
lot of conversating [sic] going on.
Chair Suarez: Discussion, I got you.
Ms. Thompson: Yes. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: So it's basically our fault. Got it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff We'll say nothing.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Okay, Todd, go for it.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): I'm going to do my best with the 20 minutes, but I have a
feeling I may be buying Commission dinner tonight.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay, you just wasted ten seconds.
Mr. Hannon: Okay, I will be guiding you through your board and committee items tonight, but
before we begin, I would like to request from the Commission that you proffer all names and
waivers before you make a motion. There'll only be one motion required for each item. So with
that in mind, we'll begin with BC.1, Arts and Entertainment Council. There are three
appointments to be made to the Council. Mayor Regalado has two appointments. He will be
reappointing Eduardo Cantera and he will be appointing Howard Miller. Chair Suarez, you
have one appointment.
Chair Suarez: I'll reappoint my appointee.
Mr. Hannon: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Mr. Hannon: Sorry. Mr. Vicente Lago will require a four fifth absentee waiver.
Chair Suarez: That's fine; we got four here.
Mr. Hannon: I just want to make sure that's part of the motion.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved as stated.
Chair Suarez: Yes, it is. Moved by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in
favor, signift by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.2 RESOLUTION
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Office of the City
Clerk
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE BAYFRONT PARK
MANAGEMENT TRUST FOR A TERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Chairman Francis Suarez
12-00284 Bayfront Park CCMemo.pdf
12-00284 Bayfront Park Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.2, Bayfront Park Management Trust.
Chair Suarez: He's making good time.
Mr. Hannon: There's one appointment to be made to the Trust and that's by Chair Suarez.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: I'm sorry.
Chair Suarez: You know what; no, I'm going to defer that.
Mr. Hannon: Defer. IfI could get a motion?
Chair Suarez: Yeah, defer.
Commissioner Carollo: Need a motion?
Chair Suarez: Motion to defer.
Mr. Hannon: Yes. We're going to continue it to the first meeting --
Chair Suarez: I mean, I can't move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Suarez: I can't move it.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Sony.
Commissioner Carollo: I move to defer it to the next meeting.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
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Chair Suarez: Motion by Commissioner Carollo, second by --
Commissioner Carollo: You know what, I --
Commissioner Gort: I second.
Commissioner Carollo: -- move to continue to the next --
Mr. Hannon: That's fine.
Commissioner Carollo: -- same like meeting where we have the BC (Boards and Committees)
items.
Mr. Hannon: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) continuance.
Chair Suarez: Okay, second by Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Chair Suarez: All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.3 RESOLUTION
12-00331
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CONFIRMING THE
Clerk ELECTION AND APPOINTMENT OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS
MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD FOR TERMS AS
DESIGNATED HEREIN.
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES: SEATS REPRESENTED:
Sean Moy Seat #1
Christine S. Gomez Seat #2
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Gerald Silverman Commission -At -Large
Carlos R. Lago Commission -At -Large
Lillie Harris Commission -At -Large
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12-00331 Civil Service CCMemo.pdf
12-00331 Civil Service Current Board Members.pdf
12-00331 Civil Service Certification of Runoff Election.pdf
12-00331 Civil Service Memo from Executive Secretary.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Noes: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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Chair Suarez: BC.3.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): I would like to wait for BC.3 until Commissioner
Spence -Jones gets here because I believe she would like to make an appointment to the at -large,
one of the at -large appointments.
Commissioner Gort: I would too. I'd like --
Mr. Hannon: So if we could --
Commissioner Gort: -- to make an appointment at -large.
Mr. Hannon: -- just come back to BC.3? I believe Commissioner Spence -Jones should be here
soon.
Chair Suarez: How many at-larges are available?
Mr. Hannon: She's going to be here soon, so let's --
Commissioner Carollo: Three.
Chair Suarez: Okay, got it. Okay.
Mr. Hannon: So --
Commissioner Carollo: And --
Chair Suarez: All right, so we'll go to BC.4.
Commissioner Carollo: -- have a nominee also.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: Let's go back to the board and committees that we postponed because
Commissioner Spence -Jones had to step out.
Mr. Hannon: Commission, I would like to begin with --
Commissioner Gort: Three.
Mr. Hannon: -- BC.3.
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Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Mr. Hannon: BC.3 is the Civil Service Board. And, Chair, I would like to ask the permission of
the Commission to provide background information on this resolution before a motion is
proffered so that the Commission understands that this resolution not only confirms the two
elected representatives for the Civil Service Board from a recently held runoff election, but also
allows for the Commission to make three at -large appointments to the Civil Service Board at this
time. I promise to keep it like a two -minute concise --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: -- drill and, you know, there's a method behind the madness so if you'll just give
me a minute, I'll just explain everything. Andl understand --
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: -- that there are appointments to be made to the at -large seats. As you know, the
Civil Service Board is made up of five seats, with two seats being elected seats and the other
three seats being at -large appointments by the City Commission. On March 1 andMarch 2 of
this year an election was held for the two elected seats on the Civil Service Board. After the
votes were tallied, none of the candidates that ran for seat number 1 and seat number 2 received
a majority vote. As a result, a runoff election was held on March 15 andMarch 16. After the
votes were tallied for runoff election, the winner for seat number one was Sean Moy and the
winner for seat number two was Christine S. Gomez. Now the first part of the resolution that
you'll be passing today confirms Sean Moy and Christine S. Gomez as the elected representatives
to the Civil Service Board. The second part of this resolution allows for the Commission to make
three at -large appointments to the Civil Service Board. The current incumbents for the Civil
Service Board are Joseph Kaplan and Gerald Silverman. The third at -large seat was recently
vacated by the resignation of Miguel de la O from the Civil Service Board and currently remains
vacant. Now with this in mind, and before a motion is made, it is my understanding that
Commissioner Carollo will be reappointing Gerald Silverman, Commissioner Spence -Jones will
be appointing Lillie Harris, and Commissioner Gort will be appointing Carlos Lago to the three
at -large seats. If this information is correct, can I have a motion?
Commissioner Gort: So moved
Commissioner Carollo: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort. Second by Commissioner Carollo. Any further
discussion? All in favor, signift by saying aye."
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Aye.
Commissioner Gort: Aye.
Chair Suarez: Aye.
Commissioner Carollo: Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. No.
Chair Suarez: BC.4.
Mr. Hannon: I'm sorry. Vice Chair, was that a no?
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Vice Chair Sarnofff. Yes.
Mr. Hannon: Okay.
BC.4 RESOLUTION
12-00285
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS OF WOMEN FORATERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Maria Mascarenas Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
12-00285 CSW CCMemo.pdf
12-00285 CSW Current Board Members. pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, and
was passed unanimously, to appoint Maria Mascarenas as a member of the Commission on the
Status of Women; further waiving the term limits of Section 2-885(b) by a unanimous (5/5) vote
of the members of the City Commission, as it relates to Maria Mascarenas as a member of the
Commission on the Status of Women.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): Actually -- BC.4, yes. BC.4, Commission on the Status of
Women. There are three appointments to be made to the Commission on the Status of Women.
Vice Chair Sarnoff, you have one appointment.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Maria Mascarenas.
Mr. Hannon: You know what; actually, we need a five five on that so --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. So I withdraw.
Mr. Hannon: -- (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) to hold off --
Chair Suarez: You want --
Mr. Hannon: -- on that appointment.
Chair Suarez: -- is that why -- you want to go to the next one? Okay.
Mr. Hannon: We'll -- yeah. Actually, let's hold off.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
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Mr. Hannon: We'll come back to it.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. Okay, 5.
Mr. Hannon: Sorry about that.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: One second. BC.4, Commission on the Status of Women, there are three
appointments to be made. Vice Chair Sarnoff, you have one appointment.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Liliana Dones.
Mr. Hannon: Liliana Dones is already a member on the Commission on the Status of Women.
The -- BC.5 was a resolution that you passed basically waiving her absenteeism. So your current
incumbent is Maria Mascarenas.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Oh, I thought I already appointed her. I apologize. Maria Mascarenas.
Mr. Hannon: All right. Ms. Mascarenas will require a five five term waiver; just want to make
sure that's part of the motion.
Commissioner Carollo: So moved
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved and seconded. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Hannon: Thank you.
BC.5 RESOLUTION
11-01226
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WAIVING THE
Clerk ATTENDANCE BY A FOUR -FIFTHS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, AS IT RELATES TO
LILIANA DONES AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ON STATUS OF
WOMEN BOARD.
11-01226 CSWAbsence Waiver CCMemo.pdf
11-01226 CSWAbsence Waiver Current Board Members.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: BC.5.
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BC.6
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Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.5 is a resolution of the Miami City Commission waiving
the attendance by a four fifth affirmative vote as it relates to Liliana Dones as a member of the
Commission on the Status of Women.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in favor, sign
by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: You're at three minutes, man.
RESOLUTION
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
RELATIONS BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
12-00286 CRB CCMemo.pdf
12-00286 CRB Current_Board_Members.pdf
12-00286 CRB Memo from Haydee Wheeler.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC. 6, Community Relations Board. There are three
appointments to be made to the board. Commissioner Gort, you have one appointment?
Commissioner Gort: Which board is this?
Chair Suarez: Community Relations.
Commissioner Gort: I waive.
Chair Suarez: You have Barbara Rodriguez as your current appointee. He waives it.
Mr. Hannon: Continue.
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Chair Suarez: Continued. So do we need a motion on that?
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Mr. Hannon: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in favor, sign
by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.7 RESOLUTION
12-00289
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY
TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY BOARD FORA TERM AS DESIGNATED
HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Frank Carollo
12-00289 CTAB CCMemo.pdf
12-00289 CTAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Chair Suarez: BC.7.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo. What exactly did
you move? To it be continued? Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Continued.
Chair Suarez: Okay, got it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Like meeting.
Chair Suarez: All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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BC.8 RESOLUTION
12-00287
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING CERTAIN
Clerk INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY
BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
IAFF
AFSCME 871
12-00287 EOAB CCMemo.pdf
12-00287 EOAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Chair Suarez: BC.8.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.8, Equal Opportunity Advisory Board. Commissioner
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: Okay.
Chair Suarez: He's got con --
Mr. Hannon: There are also --
Chair Suarez: Does the IAFF (International Association of Firefighters) have any names?
Mr. Hannon: No.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: The IAFF and AFSCME (American Federal, State, County, and Municipal
Employees) did not proffer names so they --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: -- that will need to be continued.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. So moved.
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Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: So moved for continuance, second by the Vice Chair. All in favor, signift by
saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE
FOR ATERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
12-00288 Finance CCMemo.pdf
12-00288 Finance Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Chair Suarez: Next one, BC.9.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.9, Finance Committee. Vice Chair, you have one
appointment to make.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I'm going to waive.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Carollo, second by Commissioner Gort. All in favor, signift by
saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.10 RESOLUTION
11-00997
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE HEALTH FACILITIES
AUTHORITY BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Chairman Francis Suarez
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Commissioner Frank Carollo
11-00997 Health CCMemo.pdf
11-00997 Health Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.10, Health --
Chair Suarez: Waive mine.
Commissioner Carollo: Waive mine too. Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Chair Suarez: Motion by Commissioner Carollo. Second --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- by the Vice Chair. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.11 RESOLUTION
12-00054
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD FOR TERMS AS
DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES/CATEGORIES: NOMINATED BY:
Robert John Graboski
(Architect or Architectural Historian
- Category 4
William Hopper
(Citizen - Category 7)
Jorge Kuperman
(Architect - Category 1)
Lynn B. Lewis
(Alternate Member that Qualified Under
One of the Qualifications - Category 8)
Chairman Francis Suarez
Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Hugh Ryan Commissioner Frank Carollo
(Historian or Architectural Historian
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- Category 3)
Timothy Barber Commissioner Michelle
(Citizen - Category 7)
Gerald C. Marston Commissioner Michelle
(Landscape Architect - Category 2)
12-00054 HEP CCMemo.pdf
12-00054 HEP Application Summary.pdf
12-00054 HEP Current Board Members.pdf
12-00054 HEP Applications.pdf
12-00054-HEP-Substitution of Backup Documents for Item BC.11.pdf
12-00054-Item BC.11 Document.pdf
Spence -Jones
Spence -Jones
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0158
A motion was made by Vice Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Lynn B. Lewis as a member of the Historic and Environmental
Preservation Board; further waiving the employment prohibition contained in Section 2-884(e)
of the Code of the City ofMiami, as amended, is hereby waived by a four fifths (4/5ths) vote of
the members of the City Commission, as said requirement relates to the appointment of Lynn B.
Lewis to the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board.
A motion was made by Vice Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Gerald C. Marston as a member of the Historic and
Environmental Preservation Board; further waiving the attendance requirements in Section
2-886 of the Code of the City ofMiami, as amended, by a four/fifths (4/5ths) vote of the members
of the City Commission, as it relates to past absences on record for Gerald C. Marston as a
member of the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board.
A motion was made by Vice Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Gerald C. Marston as a member of the Historic and
Environmental Preservation Board; further waiving the term limits of Section 2-885(b) by a
unanimous (5/5) vote of the members of the City Commission, as it relates to Gerald C. Marston
as a member of the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): Okay, the next --
Chair Suarez: Four minutes.
Mr. Hannon: -- BC (Boards and Committees) -- I'm going to skip BC.11, 12, and 13.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Ow. Does that count?
Commissioner Carollo: Why?
Mr. Hannon: Andl will have to come back. Commissioner Spence -Jones, I believe --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
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Vice Chair Sarnofff. She's really holding you back.
Commissioner Gort: Which one? I'm sorry, what's that?
Mr. Hannon: BC.11 is -- we'll come back to it. We'll come back to --
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: Why?
Mr. Hannon: -- BC.11. BC.11, Commissioner Spence -Jones needs to be a part of the motion
because it --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, the mess.
Mr. Hannon: -- involves multiple appointees --
Chair Suarez: Got it.
Mr. Hannon: -- and waivers.
Chair Suarez: That one's a mess.
Mr. Hannon: So I do need her here for that item.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Good burgers --
Mr. Hannon: We will --
Chair Suarez: A two -page diagram just to get that thing straight.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. -- are leaving your lips.
Mr. Hannon: For BC.11, we'll hold off. I do have a motion prepared and we'll go over it. So
let's go ahead and we'll skip BC.11.
[Later..]
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Sorry. Now BC. 5. Liliana Dones.
Mr. Hannon: We already took care ofBC.5.
Chair Suarez: BC.11, I think, right?
Mr. Hannon: Yes, BC.11. There's a motion being handed out to each Commissioner that
essentially outlines all appointments and waivers to be made to the HEP (Historical and
Environmental Preservation) Board. IfI could have you review the motion make sure all the
information is correct, then I just need one Commissioner to proffer the motion.
Chair Suarez: I appoint -- well, just -- yeah. Let's have somebody proffer the motion.
Mr. Hannon: Yeah, if each --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
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Mr. Hannon: -- person could just review it first?
Chair Suarez: I have no problem with it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Can I make a motion in accordance with item BC.11, dated April 12, 2012,
handed out by the City Clerk?
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): I'm sorry.
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. You need to state the names and the categories for each. You're
going to do one motion.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Ever hear the expression waiving presentment and waiving reading?
Ms. Thompson: As I was saying, I need you to place on the record the name of each one of your
nominee --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I don't (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Ms. Thompson: -- and the category and we can take one vote.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- following motion, Madam Heisenberg, motion to appoint the following
individuals to the Historic and Environmental Preservation Board. Chairman Suarez would like
to appoint Robert John Graboski as a category 4 appointee.
Chair Suarez: Sounds like a hurricane.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Vice Chairman Sarnoff would like to appoint William Hopper as a category
7 appointee. Commissioner Gort, in his infinite wisdom, appoints George Cooperman as
category 1 appointee. Commissioner Gort appoints equally, and equally wise person, Lynn --
Ms. Thompson: And --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- B. Lewis --
Ms. Thompson: -- and Ms. Lewis will need a four fifth employment waiver.
Chair Suarez: It's on paper.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. If you'd allowed me --
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) get there.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- to read it, I would have --
Chair Suarez: It's on the paper.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- included that, Madam Heisenberg.
Commissioner Gort: Don't stop us so we can finish.
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Vice Chair Sarnofff. But I understand you want to school me. Lynn B. Lewis, as I was saying for
her wisdom and good looks, as a category 8 appointee. In addition, she would need a four fifth
waiver, Madam Heisenberg.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Commissioner Carollo appoints Hugh Ryan as a category 3 appointee.
Commissioner Spence -Jones appoints Gerald C. Marston as a category 2 appointee and he
equally, in addition, needs a four fifth waiver and a five five term waiver. Commissioner
Spence -Jones further appoints Timothy Barber as a category 7 appointee. That is my motion.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Motion by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in favor, sign
by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.12 RESOLUTION
12-00291
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE HOMELAND
DEFENSE/NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM
OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Maria Sardina Mann Mayor Tomas Regalado
Ricardo Lambert Chairman Francis Suarez
David Freedman Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
12-00291 Homeland CCMemo.pdf
12-00291 Homeland Current Board Members.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0159
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.12, give me one second.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Five minutes and counting.
Mr. Hannon: We can go ahead and take up BC.12, Homeland Defense/Neighborhood
Improvement Bond Program Oversight Board. There are six appointments to be made. Mayor
Regalado has two appointments. He's going to reappoint Maria Sardina Mann and he's going to
continue the vacant position. Chair Suarez, you have two appointments.
Chair Suarez: I thought that Omar Travieso, one of my appointees, I thought he resigned. At
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least think he e-mailed (electronic) me that he resigned.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Now, ifI might, he may have andl don't have a copy --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Chair Suarez: -- of that resignation.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Thompson: So if you -- he did, can you please forward that to us?
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Ms. Thompson: And we'll make sure to include that on your May 12 meeting.
Chair Suarez: Okay. I'll leave Ricardo Lambert --
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, May 10.
Chair Suarez: -- on right now -- for right now.
Ms. Thompson: So you're reappointing --
Chair Suarez: Ricardo Lambert.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I will reappoint David Freedman.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Carollo, you have one appointment.
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: There's none by the Mayor?
Mr. Hannon: No. I already stated the Mayor's reappointment of --
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Hannon: -- Maria Sardina Mann and he is continuing the vacant.
Chair Suarez: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.13 RESOLUTION
12-00332
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE LIBERTY CITY
COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION TRUST FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED
HEREIN.
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APPOINTEES:
Samantha Quarterman
(Term ending 4/12/2014)
Jeffrey L. Mack
(Term ending 4/12/2014)
Samuel Gaita
(Term ending 4/12/2014)
Bruce Bennett
(Term ending 4/12/2014)
Roy Hardemon
(Term ending 4/12/2013)
NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
City Manager Johnny Martinez
12-00332 Liberty City CCMemo.pdf
12-00332 Liberty City Current Board Members.pdf
12-00332 Liberty City Applications.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0160
A motion was made by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, and was
passed unanimously, to appoint Roy Hardemon as a member of the Liberty City Community
Revitalization Trust; further waiving the employment prohibition contained in Section 2-884(e)
of the Code of the City ofMiami, as amended, is hereby waived by a four fifths (4/5ths) vote of
the members of the City Commission, as said requirement relates to the appointment of Roy
Hardemon to the Liberty City Community Revitalization Trust.
Chair Suarez: BC.13, despite the heartburn.
Vice Chair Sarnoff That wasn't my heart.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): We will need to move BC.13 to BC.14. Commissioner
Spence -Jones will be making the appointments --
Chair Suarez: Okey-doke.
Mr. Hannon: -- on BC. 13 so --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): As well as the Manager.
Mr. Hannon: Right.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Yeah.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: BC.12. Good work on that, guys.
Mr. Hannon: We've already taken care ofBC.12.
Chair Suarez: Good work on that.
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Mr. Hannon: We move on to BC.13. BC.13 is the Liberty City Community Revitalization Trust.
There's six appointments to be made. Commissioner Spence -Jones has five appointments. Four
of those appointments will be for voting members and one appointment will be for a youth
nonvoting member. And Commissioner Spence -Jones, it's my understanding that you will be
appointing to the voting members Samantha Quarterman, Jeffrey L. Mack, Samuel Gaita, and
Bruce Bennett, and you'll be continuing your youth nonvoting member. Is that correct?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Hannon: Now, the City Manager also has an appointment, and he's going to be
reappointing Roy Hardemon, who will require a four fifths employment waiver. So ifI can just
make sure that's part of the motion.
Chair Suarez: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort. Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. All in
favor, signifi, by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.14 RESOLUTION
12-00292
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL ASAMEMBER OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND
EXHIBITION AUTHORITY FORATERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Wifredo (Willy) Gort Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
12-00292 MSEACCMemo.pdf
12-00292 MSEA Current Board Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo and Suarez
Noes: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0161
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.14 Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority. There are
two appointments to be made to the Authority. Commissioner Gort, you have the opportunity to
reappoint yourself.
Chair Suarez: Didn't (UNINTELLIGIBLE) early resign from the MSEA Board?
Commissioner Gort: I do so.
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Mr. Hannon: So.
Chair Suarez: Is there anything left there to do?
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Carollo?
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: Continue. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Carollo: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo, second --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- by Commissioner Gort. All in favor, signift, by saying aye."Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnoff No.
Chair Suarez: BC --
Mr. Hannon: Unfortunately --
Chair Suarez: Register the Vice Chair as a no, please.
BC.15 RESOLUTION
12-00057
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD FORATERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Commissioner Frank Carollo
12-00057 PRAB CCMemo.pdf
12-00057 PRAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): I will need BC.15 --
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by the Vice Chair. Second by Commissioner Carollo.
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Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: You know what, Madam Clerk, I'm with you. You know, we're doing a lot better
today. It's not -- you're right, you're right. We're like at seven minutes right now and we're
almost done.
BC.16 RESOLUTION
12-00360
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING A
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER TRUST FOR A TERM AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Hank Klein Commission -at -Large
12-00360 PACT CCMemo.pdf
12-00360 PACT Bd Appt Letter for Hank Klein.pdf
12-00360 PACT Board Roles and Responsibilites.pdf
12-00360 PACT By -Laws. pdf
12-00360 PACT Resume - Hank Klein.pdf
12-00360 PACT Miami Beach Appt. Letter.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0162
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): I would --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Thank you.
Mr. Hannon: -- like to wait on BC.16 because that's an at -large appointment.
Chair Suarez: Sure.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: Next one.
Mr. Hannon: BC.16. Just a moment.
Chair Suarez: I think Todd's going to be doing this from now on. Sorry.
Vice Chair Sarnoff He's organized.
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Ms. Thompson: Fine with me.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Nominate Hank Klein.
Mr. Hannon: BC.16, ifI may. Pursuant to the Performing Arts Center Trust's Articles of
Incorporation, the City of Miami's entitled to appoint three representatives to the board of the
Performing Arts Center Trust. Currently, only one of three seats is vacant. Commissioner
Spence -Jones and Vice Chair Sarnoff currently serve on the PAC (Performing Arts Center). The
PAC is requesting that the Miami City Commission consider reappointing Hank Klein.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by --
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Spence -Jones. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in favor,
signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Done deal.
BC.17 RESOLUTION
12-00298
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND
APPEALS BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Vice Chairman Marc Sarnoff
Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
12-00298 PZAB CCMemo.pdf
12-00298 PZAB Current_Board_Members.pdf
12-00298 PZAB Applications. pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this
matter be CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.17, Planning, Zoning and Appeals Board. There are
four appointments to be made. Vice Chair Sarnoff, you have one appointment.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Continue mine.
Mr. Hannon: Continue. Commissioner Gort, you have one appointment.
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Commissioner Gort: I'm sorry; which one is this?
Mr. Hannon: Planning, Zoning and Appeals Board.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Planning and Zoning.
Commissioner Gort: Waive it.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Carollo, you have one appointment.
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: And Commissioner Spence -Jones, you have one appointment.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Waiving it.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Deferring it.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Second by Commissioner Carollo. All in
favor, signift by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.18 RESOLUTION
12-00300
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REVIEW BOARD (UDRB) FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES:
NOMINATED BY:
Chairman Francis Suarez
Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Frank Carollo
Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones
12-00300 UDRB CCMemo.pdf
12-00300 UDRB Current_Board_Members.pdf
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Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.18, Urban Development Review Board. There are five
appointments to be made. Chair Suarez, you have one appointment.
Chair Suarez: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Gort, you have one appointment.
Commissioner Gort: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Carollo, you have two appointments.
Commissioner Carollo: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner Spence -Jones, you have one appointment.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Can I ask you a question? Do I have -- do we have -- I
have two appointments on there, right?
Mr. Hannon: Currently you have one appointment, Dean Lewis, who is --
Chair Suarez: What she's saying is that there's two appointments. There's two -- each
Commissioner appoints two people, which I believe she's right.
Mr. Hannon: Yeah, that's correct. There are ten members to the board.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can I appoint -- I want to appoint Neil Hall. I thought he was
already on there.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): He is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's what I -- so --
Chair Suarez: So he's not up for reappointment so he's good. You're good with him. He's there.
He's still --
Ms. Thompson: Mr. Hall, you did --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, somebody else must have appointed him then.
Ms. Thompson: No. You appointed Mr. Neil Hall three -- I think three -- two meetings ago.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Ms. Thompson: So now Mr. Dean Lewis is your second appointment. His term ends March 10.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, I'll just defer.
Ms. Thompson: So -- okay.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
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Commissioner Carollo: So moved.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.19 RESOLUTION
12-00301
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE VIRGINIA KEY BEACH
PARK TRUST FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Richard Townsend Chairman Francis Suarez
Patrick Range Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
12-00301 VKBPT CCMemo.pdf
12-00301 VKBPT Current Board Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Vice Chair Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
R-12-0163
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): And the remainder do involve Commissioner Spence -Jones.
We can do -- go to BC.19, Virginia Key Beach Park Trust. There are five appointments to be
made. Commissioner -- Chair Suarez, I am of the understanding that you're going to be
appointing Richard Townsend --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Hannon: -- to the Trust? Okay.
Chair Suarez: If you say so.
Mr. Hannon: Yes, sir. And Vice Chair Sarnoff, you have one appointment.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Patrick Range.
Chair Suarez: I love that guy. Great guy.
Mr. Hannon: We will need to --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): So I'm just wanting -- ifI may interject. My fault. Patrick
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Range will then move from his servicing on Commission at -large seat to your District 2
appointment, okay.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Correct. And then --
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- I'd like to move Mark Walters to an at -large position.
Ms. Thompson: The at -large position -- I'm sorry.
Mr. Hannon: Commissioner -- or Vice Chair, we need to wait before we make the at -large
appointments simply because, according to the code, the Virginia Key Beach Park Trust must
provide a memo with their nominations --
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Mr. Hannon: -- for the Commission to confirm, so we'll have to continue those until we get a
memo from the Trust. That's per the code.
Chair Suarez: So what are we on right now?
Commissioner Carollo: Waiting.
Mr. Hannon: BC.19.
Chair Suarez: BC.19, okay.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. So can we move on the others?
Mr. Hannon: No. We can -- you can basically make a motion appointing Mr. Townsend and Mr.
Range and then continue the at -large appointments.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Chair Suarez: It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, signifi, by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
BC.20 RESOLUTION
12-00308
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS MEMBERS OF THE WATERFRONT
ADVISORY BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEES: NOMINATED BY:
Enid Lorenzo Chairman Francis Suarez
(Term ending 10/25/2012)
Ashley Chase Vice Chairman Marc David Sarnoff
(Term ending 4/12/2013)
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12-00308 WAB CCMemo.pdf
12-00308 WAB Current Board Members.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-12-0164
A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, and was passed
unanimously, to appoint Ashley Chase as a member of the Waterfront Advisory Board; further
waiving the term limits of Section 2-885(b) by a unanimous (5/5) vote of the members of the City
Commission, as it relates to Ashley Chase as a member of the Waterfront Advisory Board.
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): BC.20 quires a five five term waiver so we will need to wait
on that. And so -- pardon me?
Chair Suarez: What about -- so you're pretty much -- this -- we've done all we can do on the
boards for now?
Mr. Hannon: Yes, sir, at this time.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
[Later..]
Chair Suarez: Are we done with the BCs (Boards and Committees)?
Mr. Hannon: BC.20. BC.20 is the Waterfront Advisory Board and there are two appointments to
be made. Chair Suarez, you have --
Chair Suarez: Continue.
Mr. Hannon: It's my understanding that you'll be appointing Enid Lorenzo.
Chair Suarez: Oh, that's right. Yeah, you're right, I am going to be appointing Lorenzo.
Mr. Hannon: And, Vice Chair Sarnoff, you have one appointment.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Ashley Chase.
Mr. Hannon: Ms. Chase will require a five five term waiver. Just so you're aware, that needs to
be part of motion.
Commissioner Carollo: Move it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff As stated.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Carollo. Second by Commissioner Gort. All in favor,
signify by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Hannon: And that is the end of your board and committee items.
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12-00077
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Hannon: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: You did a good job.
END OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
DISCUSSION ITEMS
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CITYATTORNEY'S PREPARATION OF
VARIOUS RESOLUTIONS FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT
CHANGE THE DATES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI'S ELECTIONS TO
COINCIDE WITH COUNTYWIDE ELECTIONS.
12-00077 Summary Form.pdf
DEFERRED
Note for the Record: Item DI I was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April 26,
2012.
Chair Suarez: We're going to defer --
Commissioner Gort: Keep praying for us.
Chair Suarez: -- DI.1, right? We're going to (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 'cause Commissioner
Spence -Jones has to go, so we're going to defer DI.1, which is a discussion item. And then let's
-- we already did --
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Chair Suarez: That's your last one.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know. I agree.
Commissioner Gort: Let me get my pocket item.
Commissioner Carollo: We got to discuss (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: Oh, okay.
DI.2 DISCUSSION ITEM
12-00297
Department of Human DISCUSSION REGARDING AN ANALYSIS OF ALL THE POSITIONS WITHIN
Resources EACH CITY DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHICH POSITIONS SHOULD
BE EXCLUDED FROM THE CLASSIFIED SERVICE AND INCLUDED IN THE
UNCLASSIFIED SERVICE.
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DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: D1.2 [sic], you guys ready on that?
Commissioner Carollo: Let's do it. It's just a discussion item, right?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Are we say -- Chair, I'm sorry.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Are we --
Chair Suarez: Say it.
Ms. Thompson: -- talking aboutDl2?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Yeah.
Chair Suarez: DI 2.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Is that what I said? Yeah. I thought I said -- I guess I said Dl. 2, huh? So I
apologize. DI.2, yes. You're recognized, ma'am.
Beverly Pruitt: Beverly Pruitt, Human Resources director. This is in response to the request
from Vice Chair Sarnoff that we survey the departments to request from them their
recommendations on which positions should be changed from classed to unclassified. So the
spread sheet report was included with your --
Commissioner Gort: Spread sheet.
Ms. Pruitt: Packet.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Did you guys come up with a number on --? I saw --
Ms. Pruitt: Yes, sir. We totaled the column of the number employees affected and it was 143.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. 142.
Ms. Pruitt: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Okay. So let me ask you, what do we need -- this is the Administration's
survey by department as to what each director thinks they need for unclassified -- am I right --
using the word right -- unclassified positions?
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Yes.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. And this would -- and obviously we could see from the various departments
who they are.
Ms. Pruitt: Um -hum.
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Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Manager, do you support this?
Commissioner Gort: Let --
Vice Chair Sarnoff No?
Commissioner Gort: Can I give a suggestion, something that I've been reading on this for a
while. And I've been trying to talk to people about the -- this problem we have with the different
office, and the City already has numerous unclassified. The City needs the process to grieve
improvement, action by management, and this is something that I have discussed with the union
also. The problem has been not that there is too few unclassified, but that that the line between
management and labor has become blurred because most City staff have now become members
of the union. This (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) union participation has been limited to nonmanagerial
confidential positions. This would -- what we could do is the classification of -- what do you call
them? -- unclassified should be scaled below 19. In other words, the pay scale of 19 or below,
the grade 19 below, and anything above 19 they become -- in other words, one of the reasons
that we try to do in the past and we discuss, we like to hire within the City employees. Now what
happens is you take a person, you bring it up; this person, because of the experience and the
work, they go up and they comes to a position where they become management. When these
people become management, they should no longer be classed;; they should become
unclassified. They cannot -- they will not lose their -- what do you call them -- civil service
status 'cause if they taken off management, they can always come back to the civil service. But
this is one way that we could take care of this problem without -- the commitment that I made is
for us to come up with how many changes we think we can make to make the improvement within
the City workers and then sit down with the unions and talk to them and they might agree to a lot
of them or to most of them. And then if it doesn't work, we can always take it to the voters or
have the Charter changed.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Well, what is the time frame to go to a Charter change because it's
November? It's coming up, is it not? May something.
Ms. Thompson: Yes, it is. The deadline -- if you want to go -- andl apologize. Just one second
'cause I want to give you the exact date. If you want to go with the August primary, that deadline
should be May 25. And if you want to go with November, that deadline would be July -- this is
what happens when you mature: You lose your memory.
Commissioner Gort: November have to be two month before.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Ms. Thompson: So it'll be May 25 or July 24.
Vice Chair Sarnoff July 24?
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Now, I'd like to suggest any amendment changes that we like to make, my
understanding is the County's going to have a lot of amendment changes in August and I hate to
get our issues confused with the County issues 'cause right now it -- I can hear a lot of phone
calls and people talking about the changing of the -- giving another year. Well, how can we give
this Commission another year after they -- all they done? because they're confused. So any
change that we would like to do, I think we should take it after November.
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Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I have no problem with that.
Chair Suarez: And --
Vice Chair Sarnoff No, I don't have a problem with that, but --
Chair Suarez: What's the -- what was the -- what is it again?
Vice Chair Sarnoff But is your proposal, Commissioner, that you're going to meet with union
and try to get stipulations from them?
Commissioner Gort: Let me tell you what I've done. I've asked department directors to let me
know what are the problem having in hiding, what are the problem having -- what changes can
we make to make our Administration more efficient, and for them to come up with the answer,
tell me, look, this -- we need to have this change within the policy in order to make it more
efficient. And I'd like to get all this information, sit down with the unions and discuss it with
them. Look, this is what's being suggested. They might agree with us. A lot of steps in here,
they're obsolete. They've been there for a long time. They might sit down and says, you're right,
let's change it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So, if we gave you 60 days, would you be able to come back with an answer
as to what they agreed to and what they don't agree to?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Gort: But I need the information from the department directors; that this is
something that I requested two month ago.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Manager, I mean, I want to see this thing move, so I'm okay with not
having this in August. I see the wisdom to it. But I don't want to find myself 60 days from now
and Commissioner Gort saying, I got this two days ago from the Manager and, you know,
thanks, but I'm going to need another 30 days. Another 30 days going to go by and we're going
to be in the summer, we're going to be in the throes of budget, and we're not going to get
anywhere. And could suggest to you -- well, I'm not going to make that suggestion right now.
I'm interested in this. I'm interested in seeing this through. I'm interested in being the only vote,
if need be. That's okay with me too. I'm sayingl might be the only vote. Who knows.
Commissioner Carollo: Say that again.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I said I'm interested in seeing this through. I want to see who in this City
and what department directors think people should be unclassified. I'm interested in seeing that.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Vice Chair Sarnoff My understanding is once we come up with that list -- this may not be that
list and --
Chair Suarez: I'm interested in seeing that list too.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
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Chair Suarez: Yeah. No, I think -- look -- and just for historical knowledge, like the Mayor likes
to say, if you guys remember, we basically voted down a Charter amendment that would have
allowed --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Suarez: -- the civil service rules to be actually an ordinance. And the thought at the time,
I remember, was that there just wasn't -- that's just too -- it's too much, you know what I mean.
We need some definition. We need to know -- you know what I mean? They'd rather -- I think the
board rather -- at the time rather have something more defined and more clear rather than just
giving that blank check, you know. So I mean, that's what I recall. So, yeah. I mean -- I think
we need to -- I think we should do something, in fairness.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So all I'm trying to do is put a deadline on this. I'm asking the Manager to
cooperate with Commissioner Gort's office. Whatever meeting needs to take place, whatever
document needs to be reviewed, whatever conversation needs to be had, can it be done in the
next 29 days so that in 30 days this can come back and, you know, conversation can be had and
we can finally get moving on it? That's all.
Chair Suarez: Agreed.
Ms. Thompson: Just -- ifI might, Chair?
Chair Suarez: Yes, you may.
Ms. Thompson: To give you further information, because we did receive an e-mail (electronic)
from the Supervisor of Election notifying us that for both August and November, the ballots will
probably be very, very heavy, so time is of the essence for you to get your items on. And if you
submit, there is no guarantee that your item would go on, so they've asked that we prioritize any
Charter amendments that we may be trying to send through. So time is of the essence on
anything that you want for either August or November.
Commissioner Carollo: Madam City Clerk, but I was under the impression that no matter how
many items there are, they would put it 'cause it's still the same election.
Ms. Thompson: No, they do not. They do not. We always let them know as far ahead of time as
we can now when we want -- we may be putting an item on or requesting an item to go on. They
are limited, with the coding of the ballots, to four pages, two-sided, so that's eight pages of
information, okay, so that's what their limit is and that's why they're asking us, because this is a
Presidential, the state, and the like that we get our requests in immediately. And if we have
multiple Charter amendments, we want to put through to prioritize them.
Commissioner Gort: I started working already in my office, andl met with some of the union
members and we'll continue to work as fast as we can and try to bring something back as soon as
possible.
Commissioner Carollo: And Mr. Chairman, I see the president of --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: -- one of the unions andl know --
Chair Suarez: Anthony (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
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Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) this affects --
Commissioner Gort: There's two of them.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,T IGIBT,F) AFSCME, so I don't know if he'd like to speak, but
if
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Carollo: -- (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) coming up, I --
Chair Suarez: I think that's right. I think Mr. Hatten and then I'd like Mr. Simmons to also
chime in 'cause it looks like he wants to say something.
Anthony Hatten: Anthony Hatten, union president, Local 1907, 4011 West Flagler. I'd just like
to say the reason we have classified is to have qualified people. They go through an interview
process. They have to have the qualifications in order to get the jobs. Andl don't want to limit
ourselves to, you know, bringing anymore sacred cows in --
Chair Suarez: But don't -- I mean --
Mr. Hatten: -- basically.
Chair Suarez: -- I agree with you, but don't you agree -- andl think you andl have talked about
this privately, and I'm not going to put you out on anything.
Mr. Hatten: Okay.
Chair Suarez: But don't you agree that the way that it is right now is not tenable? In other
words, it's just not draft (UNINTELLIGIBLE), very old and --
Mr. Hatten: I'm willing --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Mr. Hatten: -- to work something out with you guys.
Chair Suarez: Okay, cool.
Mr. Hatten: Okay?
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Hatten: All right.
Chair Suarez: So, you know, hopefully the Administration will take the opportunity to meet with
them as well and -- Sir, you're recognized.
Joe Simmons: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Joe Simmons, Jr., president of the
sanitation workers union. There was a mention, I think, by Mr. Gort: anyone at pay grade 19 or
higher. We have roughly 80 percent of our population above that, that pay grade, from 19 to 22.
You made a statement. You said that --
Commissioner Gort: From 19 to 22, you're --
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Mr. Simmons: No, you said 19 or above.
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Mr. Simmons: And that would be most of our people. Pay scale 19 --
Commissioner Gort: That was not my understanding.
Mr. Simmons: Okay, okay.
Commissioner Gort: We might have gotten the wrong information, but that's not my
understanding. My understanding is, if the person comes into management --
Mr. Simmons: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- confidential management --
Mr. Simmons: Okay, okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- it's no longer can --
Mr. Simmons: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- can deal with the unions --
Mr. Simmons: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- but he's got -- he doesn't lose his civil service right.
Mr. Simmons: Right.
Commissioner Gort: He can always be rolled back to his civil service right.
Mr. Simmons: So you're talking specifically a carve -out of individuals that have specific
managerial responsibilities or authority?
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Simmons: Okay. I'm in operations so I'm not even up there.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Mr. Simmons: Thank you, sir.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Okay, so that's -- that solves that one.
END OF DISCUSSION ITEMS
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
CITYWIDE
HONORABLE MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO
M.1 DISCUSSION ITEM
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12-00361
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STATUS AND POSSIBLE SETTLEMENT OF A
1994 SUIT RELATED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12-00361 Email - Status & Possible Settlement.pdf
DEFERRED
Note for the Record: Item M.1 was deferred to the Commission Meeting scheduled for April 26,
2012.
Chair Suarez: Let's try to see if we can do then D1.2. In other words, discuss item number two,
which is a perform analysis positions within each City department. That's a D2 so I think that
may be an Administration item. I know the Mayor has a clean-up matter. I know the Mayor
does not intend to bring his discussion in this Commission meeting. Does he want to bring it at a
later Commission meeting?
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): He told me he wanted to defer it yesterday.
Chair Suarez: Okay. So is there a motion to defer -- do we have to defer the Mayor's discussion
item to bring --
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Suarez: -- it back on the next Commission meeting? No. She says no.
Vice Chair Sarnoff When do we have to vote on this by?
Chair Suarez: For discussion items? I don't know. Good question.
Vice Chair Sarnoff No, no, no, no. Isn't this one -- isn't this part of a charter amendment, DI ?
Chair Suarez: No, no, we're not on Dl.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Oh, I'm sorry.
Chair Suarez: No, I don't want to have --
Vice Chair Sarnoff I thought that's what you were deferring.
Chair Suarez: No. We're deferring D1.2.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Carollo: We're deferring D1.2 [sic].
Chair Suarez: No, no, I'm sorry. My apologies. We're deferringM.1.
Mr. Martinez: 1.
Commissioner Carollo: M.1.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Oh.
Chair Suarez: And there's no motion needed, correct? Is that what you just said?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): That's correct.
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Chair Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Thompson: Because it's a discussion item. It's not a resolution.
Chair Suarez: Got it.
Ms. Thompson: It's not an ordinance or anything like that.
Chair Suarez: But you'll put it back on the agenda in the next Commission meeting?
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay, cool.
M.2 RESOLUTION
11-00878
(M.2)
11-00878
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
INTERLOCALAGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI WITH THE
TOWN OF CUTLER BAY, THE VILLAGE OF PALMETTO BAY, THE VILLAGE
OF PINECREST, THE CITY OF SOUTH MIAMI, AND THE TOWN OF MIAMI
SHORES, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE GREEN CORRIDOR PROPERTY ASSESSMENT
CLEAN ENERGY (PACE) DISTRICT.
11-00878 Legislation (Version 2).pdf
11-00878 Exhibit 1 04/12/12.pdf
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Chair Suarez, that this matter be ADOPTED
FAILED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
Noes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo and Spence -Jones
R-12-0167
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
INTERLOCALAGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI WITH THE
TOWN OF CUTLER BAY, THE VILLAGE OF PALMETTO BAY, THE VILLAGE
OF PINECREST, THE CITY OF SOUTH MIAMI, AND THE TOWN OF MIAMI
SHORES, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE GREEN CORRIDOR PROPERTY ASSESSMENT
CLEAN ENERGY (PACE) DISTRICT.
11-00878 Legislation (Version 2).pdf
11-00878 Exhibit 1 04/12/12.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Chair Suarez, that this matter be ADOPTED
WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: Do you want to go back to SR. 2 before going to --? SR. 2 is the metallic
coverings, or do you want to do PACE (Property Assessment Clean Energy) 'cause that's what we
had a time certain for? They've been waiting for a while. Okay, let's go with PACE, Mayor's
item number two. Andl -- and let me tel you -- let me just say a couple things. First, I want to
recognize the Mayor of Cutler Bay, Ed MacDougall, who's here in the audience with us today.
Thank you for coming, Mayor. And thank you all for being patient. I know we had a -- I think it
was an 11 o'clock time certain, then it was a 3: 30 time certain, and sometimes things like that
happen, andl very much appreciate your patience. So without further ado, Mr. Manager, take it
away. This is PACE, Mayor's item number two.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The Mayor should be in here, though.
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): Yeah, he's here. Right there.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: He needs to be in here.
Chair Suarez: Mr. Mayor, we need you. PACE --
Mr. Martinez: PACE --
Chair Suarez: -- Mayor's item number 2.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: I got to get my glasses. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you,
Commissioners. I guess that this is a very familiar item. This is an interlocal agreement among
the City of Miami, the Town of Cutler Bay, Village of Palmetto Bay, Village of Pinecrest, City of
South Miami, and Miami Shores Village in what is known as the Green Corridor. The purpose of
this item is to create an interlocal agreement that creates the Green Corridor district, which is a
separate legal entity of the Florida law. This was approved by the state Legislature. And this is
a voluntary program and the financing is secured by non -ad valorem special assessment. You all
know that. The important thing is that throughout the past month, as the request of -- as per
request of the Commission, this has come back to the City Attorney, to the Administration, to the
new chief financial officer. And the highlights of this is -- the things that were of concern were
that the district will be operated at no cost to the City. All operational costs, project
management, marketing will be paid by for the third party administrator. The district, and not
the City, will be responsible for signing the financing agreements and levying and collecting the
special assessment for each property. Foremost and more important, one of the concerns that
the Administration had and that you all had is that the third party administrator has agreed to
indemnin, the district and cities against all liability associated with the district. And this
program is, I guess, a good program to save money to property owners in the City ofMiami.
And the City staff has worked for many, many, many --
Chair Suarez: Months.
Mayor Regalado: -- month, I will say, to resolve all the questions that were raised by the City
Commission. I will defer to the City Manager and the CFO (Chief Financial Officer) for more
information. Andl think that you will hear that most of if not all, the issues that were raised by
the City Commission have been at least discussed and addressed. Thank you.
Mr. Martinez: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. First, I just want to go back and remind everyone what
PACE stands for, because I've been working at this so long that I actually forgot what the
acronym was for, and it's for Property Assessed Clean Energy, and that's what PACE stands for.
Needless to say, we paced ourself on this. It's been deferred many, many times because we had
some concerns. We weren't fully knowledgeable of the impacts of this to the City or our citizens.
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Our CFO looked at this very closely, Lillian looked at this very closely, and our attorney's office
looked at it very closely, and every iteration of the PACE program we analyzed and we reduced it
to a point where we felt that the benefits more than outweigh the possible risks that could be out
there. At the end of the day, looking at it from 30, 000 feet, you know, you say to yourself, it's
going to create local jobs, 2,000 -- you know, the estimate is 2,500, 2, 600 jobs. I don't know that
to be true, but it creates jobs. It influx our economy with at least, they say, $170 million worth of
projects, which translates into contractors and spending more money in other places, so it has a
general roundabout effect of helping the economy. It gives the property owner an option on how
to finance improvements, like HA -- heating, ventilation, air conditioning systems, solar panels,
impact -resistant windows, and other energy -saving improvements, which those energy savings
can go toward the non -ad valorem assessment that's going to be attached to the property. Some
people will say, well, what's the difference between this and getting a loan with a Home Depot
card or your credit card and that type of thing? Well, if a property owner goes to -- and puts it
on his credit card or gets a loan, he's responsible for that loan, you know, till it's paid off. In this
type of arrangement between the PACE program and the property owner, the loan runs with the
property. So I think it's a win/win situation for the property owner and the City as far as
reducing the carbon footprint.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Coming back to this Commission, is there a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got a lot of questions. Can I --?
Chair Suarez: is there -- are you moving it or just -- you want to --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. There's no motion until -- can I ask some questions?
Chair Suarez: Sure, you can ask as many questions as you like.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Well, first of all, I know -- Commissioner Gort, do you have
some things you want to go through first? I'll defer to you. No, you go, you go. I'm --
Chair Suarez: Okay, go, Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Let's get this going.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, no problem. I only had a few questions. I want to thank,
first of all, our CFO, you know, for really looking at this agreement, you know, dragging it
through the mud, trying to do as much as we could to remove any true real risk factors that the
City would have for that, so I want to commend her for that, you know. And Mr. Manager, the
same thing to you because, you know, you also wanted to really make sure that whatever
situation from this partnership we found ourself in, that we, you know, would not hurt any other
residents and the business owners of the City, so I want to thank you guys. And Lillian, I know
you made -- you're the Green Queen, soI know that you worked tirelessly to get this done, and
know a lot of the questions and concerns I know that I had, you guys have somewhat addressed
them. I just want to be clear for those individuals -- and I've known Steve for a very long time,
and know that he's a good person, and know that, you know, his main focus, you know, is to
try to, you know, make, you know, the situation better for residents, so I don't ever want that to
be questioned as to whether or not me not supporting what you guys are doing. My concern was
-- some of the answers to certain key questions, I wasn't getting the answers so, so I've got more
answers on them, but I still have a few more, okay. I think the City Manager kind of resolved one
of the major ones for me a couple days ago -- yesterday that I feel good about andl guess we'll
bring it up. Butl do want these particular things to be put on the record, so who's -- somebody's
going to come to the mike or --? And this is really, more or less, let's say, financing questions so
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maybe this is -- I'm -- yeah, they're financing questions. Well, they can go on that side and you
can come here, okay. All right, so my first question: Has the Administration reviewed any
financing documents with the terms and conditions to be imposed on property owners under this
program?
Janice Larned: Janice Larned, assistant City Manager, chief financial officer. No, ma'am, we
have not.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So that is -- as -- that's a huge concern for me because we
would kind of at least want to know what the business owners, correct, or residents -- what the
document would look like, correct?
Ms. Larned: As the City is not going to be signing those documents --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Larned: -- that would be left up to the property owner. No, the City would have no interest
in what those documents would look like.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But if it's a financing document that even though we're not
physically going into the agreement, ultimately we are part of the district, and that may not be --
maybe it's not to be addressed with you. Maybe it is to be addressed with them. Are you guys
able to provide us with a copy of the financing documents? Because I know I got one real estate
person up here -- at least two, two real estate people up here. Do you have at least a sample of
what these real estate -- the real estate document would look like or feel like or --?
Dan Schaefer: Dan Schaefer, with Ygreen Energy Fund, Tampa, Florida. Thank you for having
us today. Prior to launching the agreement, all of the documents will be approved by the district
board, which would include the financing agreement, and the City ofMiami would be part of the
district board.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So at this point there's no financing documents now. Is
that what you're saying?
Mr. Schaefer: Upon forming the district, which requires the initial meeting --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Schaefer: -- and we were waiting until today to make a decision as the when to have that
meeting, then those documents would -- that document, in addition to the other documents,
would be reviewed by the board prior to launching the program.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And that's the district board, right?
Mr. Schaefer: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So Madam City Attorney, this is my only question that
have on that particular item. I only have a few more after this. Is there any way, you know, if we
vote and approve and support this issue, okay -- I'm not saying they're going to do that, but if we
do, is there any way that we can at least have them commit that the financing document that the
district approves at least the City ofMiami board has the ability to, you know, support, amend,
make suggestions, recommenda -- is there any way within this document that we can say that it
needs to be approved by the City Commission?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): The way the interlocal is drafted, once the district is created, that
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is a separate legal entity, and it will answer to a separate board that will be established pursuant
to the interlocal agreement. The City will be represented because there will be a board member
that will represent the jurisdiction of the City, not necessarily the City Commission, but you
know, you can always monitor that by the representation on the board, and when the board
obtains a copy of the financing documents for that board to approve, you know, the City could be
monitoring the situation and convey its objections or --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Now, who is the point --
Ms. Bru: -- suggestions.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- who would be the appointee to the district? That would be the
question.
Ms. Bru. Okay. If you want to expand on that, the way that it's provided for in the interlocal is
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is our CFO going to be sitting on that district?
Ms. Bru: No, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So who is the person?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. It's Suarez, isn't it?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: It seems like it should be a financial -some person. Okay, while
you guys looking for that, that is concern for me. That is definitely a concern for me 'cause I do
not want us to be in a situation where, you know, we're supporting something, our logo's on it,
and next thing we know, we have this financing document that strangles the property owner and,
quite frankly, we really only have one voice out of the, how many people, five people sitting on
this district -- in this district and that puts us really, I say, at a disadvantage. So that was my
first question. I really feel like we need to have a clearer understanding of that financing
document before, clearly, I give me support one way or the other. But that was the first one.
Right now I just want to be clear that you said that we don't have that information now, but you
will have it once the district is formed, correct?
Estrella Sabilia: That's correct. IfI may, Estrella Sabilia, law offices at 2525 Ponce De Leon
Boulevard. I'm representing the Town of Cutler Bay as their attorney. Under Section 6 of the
interlocal agreement, it talks about the governing board of the district, and it reads that the
district shall be governed by a governing board of the district, which shall be comprised of
current elected officials of the parties to this interlocal agreement and one at -large member,
which means that one of the our elected officials, one of you five sitting here, would be the
member representing the district at the district board level, so you'd have the ability to review
those finance documents and make sure that they're to your liking and have an influence on that
vote as part of the member of the district.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Can ask you something, Ygreen? You guys have done this
other places, right?
Ms. Sabilia: I represent the Town of Cutler Bay. They're our program administrator for the
PACE district --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I got you.
Ms. Sabilia: -- so I'll defer to him on that.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. But you guys have done this other places, right?
Mr. Schaefer: We have programs launching in California and of course here and currently in
Atlanta.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So my question would be, you should already have financing
documents that would be almost like templates, right?
Mr. Schaefer: Well, yes, of course. In the -- yes, we do have the financing documents, and a part
of the program launch is the board's review and approval of all the documents.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Schaefer: So that's --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just -- I'm just making --
Mr. Schaefer: We're in the last phase, and also then these documents, in part, go into what's
called the Judicial Validation --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Schaefer: -- which is a procedure we'll go through to validate them legally in the state of
Florida.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. I'm just making a suggestion. I think it's important for --
even though we know that the board is going to vote or not -- I don't want to beat a dead horse
on this -- going to vote and approval on it anyway, the district will, but the reality is, I think that
there should be some sense of an idea if we've done this before so -- what that financing
document looks like. I'm going to move off of that 'cause I want to give my other colleagues an
opportunity, but I -- for me that raises some level of concern on that.
Mr. Schaefer: Like I said, the documents absolutely exist. The law firm, Weiss Serota, has been
working on them. And once again, they will go to the district board for approval.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so let me move to the next one. Will the -- I guess this
another CO -- CFO question or maybe perhaps you. Will the changing marketplace condition
alter the financing terms and conditions on what was -- what is presented here today on our
vote? So would the market, the change of market, you know, based upon what you guys have
already presented to the Commission for us to, you know, vote and approval on today, will that
have any significant changes at all?
Ms. Larned: Again, not to the City. The interest rate that will be charged to the property owner
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, I know the property owner, clearly. But we know that the
City -- I understand the City's not in it, but we are putting our residents or our potential business
owners in it, and my question really is, you know, will the interest rate on any of this affect our
property owners? Will something change based upon what is being presented in this overall
resolution?
Ms. Larned: Once the property owner signs the application and it's approved, the interest rate is
set. Up until that time, they can anticipate that the interest rate will be a certain amount. But
until they've signed the dotted line, completed the transaction, that remains subject to market
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conditions. Once it's signed, it's set.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So basically, the answer is that it will change? There's a
possibility for it to change? Yeah. I mean, the --
Ms. Larned: Up until --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- market could change.
Ms. Larned: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, just want to make sure. And then there was -- the biggest
stickler I believe we had in our discussion -- and my chief of staff really went through this
document, andl know that the PACE folks really feel as though we might have been a little
heavy-handed on it. But again, as I stated, I'm very concerned that -- you know, we, as elected
body, people put us in these positions to make sure that we protect them. And if we don't ask all
the important questions and when they see our logo attached to anything, all five cities or
whatever, it's almost like we're saying that this particular partnership or arrangement or
agreement, we feel like it's the right thing for them to do. And one of the concerns I had on that
is the potential of predatory lending, okay, and you andl talked about that. What happens if a
lady 80 years old, somebody knocks on her door, sends her a beautiful flyer and says, you know,
hey, I can save you $200 on your light bill. All you have to do is sign up on this -- sign up in this
program, you know, and you could save $200 per month. Well, we already see what's happening
with mortgages with our seniors, correct, and you andl had this discussion, and thatl was very
concerned with how do we manage that process to make sure it doesn't get out of the wrong
hands and we find ourself in that same situation, correct?
Ms. Larned: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. So I think the way that -- and the reason why this all came
up was because of the issue of the Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae issue and how this particular
program -- there were a lot of questions, even concerns, around the liens and all of the issues
concerning this program particular, correct?
Ms. Larned: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right. So, Mr. Manager, I just want to be clear from everybody
that's involved in this, andl want you guys to officially put it on the record. Does this mean that
a property owner who participates in this program will experience difficulties in obtaining loans
on their properties? So let's say they get involved in this program, this 70-, 80-year-old woman,
for whatever reason -- no, no. Let's say it's a new family, a young family, okay, that may be
having -- you know, participates in the program 'cause they want to reduce money -- I mean,
reduce the amount of money they spend out. Will this affect them in any way with getting a --
another loan or anything of that sort? Could this affect them?
Ms. Larned: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, it could?
Ms. Larned: Sure, because it would be a lien against the property. And if they are wishing to go
through, say, a refinance on their mortgage --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Larned: -- then the lender's going to look at any and all obligation; this would be one of
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those obligations, so it would be taken into consideration.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So -- right? So, again, this is something that could
potentially hurt a residential person that may want to go out and do something else because they
have that sitting there as well, correct?
Ms. Lamed: I think the operative word in the question was hurt, and that is not a position that
can respond to; only the lender at the time who's evaluating the credit -worthiness of the entire
application can determine whether or not it falls within their guidelines or within their credit
scoring, if you will. So I can't respond --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Ms. Lamed: -- to it because of the word hurt.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And that just leads me to this one, and this is what we talked
about, and hopefully we're going to be able to resolve this 'cause my amendment to this issue
would be, you know, because this -- we're really shaky on this residential issue, I would feel a lot
more comfortable if this only included commercial, and based upon what my briefing was with
the City Manager yesterday, you know, commercial is a whole nother thing, you know. I have a
business. I bought a building. It's a business, you know, obligation. I think that we're being
responsible leaders by not putting our residents in harm's way and open up -- opening up a door
for them potentially to have some sort of predatory lending kind of issue. So I would be fine if we
were able to amend it to only include commercial properties. And then -- I'm almost done,
almost done -- Ygreen, my other question was if we're talking about commercial properties, my
question was can a church take advantage of this particular program? Can they participate?
You know, even though they're tax exempt, are they -- and special assessments don't apply to
them. But we do have some churches that not only have, what do you call it, sanctuaries but they
also have buildings and they have programs and they have, you know, real estate property as
well. So my question becomes can they apply for this as well? Can they participate as well?
Mr. Schaefer: Well, any property that can opt into a financing agreement under the program is
able to participate. That doesn't necessarily establish that they meet the underwriting standards
that we have to set forth under the state law.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Schaefer: But, yes, for all --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But because --
Mr. Schaefer: -- intents and purposes, they should be able to participate if they can repay a
financing agreement as collected by the County.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right, so -- but because they're tax exempt and they have a
special -- this special assessment liens don't really apply, does that matter at all in this? Because
you're not going to be able to assess them.
Mr. Schaefer: Well, if they don't --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So the answer is really no on the churches.
Mr. Schaefer: If they don't receive a tax bill, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so let's -- so I want to be clear. All right. Guys, I'm almost
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done. These are all the questions I have. You talked earlier, Mr. Manager, about the local
construction jobs and what the duration of these jobs. What is actually the duration of the jobs?
Because you did -- you guys did have a couple of construction companies call our office saying,
Commissioner, we think this is something that we would like to participate in. But as they dug
deeper in this issue, they realized that these jobs are really only for the initial set-up period.
After the installation is completed, that is really it. Is that correct? Is there like a maintenance
piece added to it or not --? No, once you install it for twenty grand, then you're out -- that
maintenance company -- I mean, that construction -based company is out of there, correct?
Mr. Schaefer: Well, certainly, it depends on the terms of agreement, but generally, yes. But what
we are finding as we really work throughout the country, this is a survival opportunity for these
construction companies, and the problem today is those $20, 000 jobs aren't happening and this
type of program allows them to happen, which is really the key.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. I think that, on my end, that's a really shaky answer, but
it's okay. I'm just concerned about the jobs element. In speaking to a lot of these subcon --
smaller subcontractors, a lot of them basically kind of communicated, yeah, it'll give us job, but
it's not sustainable jobs. And there was a lot of issues even around what you actually earn to
actually do these houses. So whether or not even the benefits of really utilizing the jobs as a
means of supporting it, really, for me, kind of weakened it, but wanted to ask the question
'cause I have a responsibility to my constituents to do that.
Mr. Schaefer: Well, it's our belief it'll be a very successful program, and the contractors who
participate will be able to determine if it's a good business decision for them.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Will the City ofMiami logo be used in all marketing
materials?
Mr. Schaefer: Pardon me. The City ofMiami local?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Logo.
Commissioner Gort: Logo.
Mr. Schaefer: Logo.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Will it be used in all marketing materials?
Mr. Schaefer: Well, that's a -- you know, that would be a program implementation decision, and
if we are allowed to use the logo, we do. That's an excellent way to set up the program. Right
now we're talking about a web portal called Clean Energy Miami
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Schaefer: And then in that web portal, any asset that we're allowed to use by the City that
would help enhance the program in its benefits, anything we're allowed to use we would use.
Chair Suarez: Why don't you buy a dot Miami domain name --
Ms. Larned: There you go.
Chair Suarez: -- once we have the links?
Ms. Larned: There you go.
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Chair Suarez: Go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm just going to say, I just think that we have to be very
conscience and cautious when we start talking about -- even though we're not ultimately
responsible for this district, there is a group -- there's a district that's put in place that will
govern this process, the City ofMiami residents, they don't know the difference between the
district that you're creating, okay, and the City ofMiami; and if they see something that arrives
to their house with our logos on it, the automatically -- automatic assumption is that if my City's
doing it, if my City's sending it, it must be good. I mean, on the district, I think that if you create
a logo for the district, that's all good. I think that when you start talking about utilizing the
City's logo, which we all represent up here, I think that we need to definitely -- my amendment
would be that the City of Miami's logo should not be used on any marketing materials because at
the end of the day, that's automatically putting us in the middle of it. And just as our CFO stated
earlier that it is really the district and not really us, I think that we need to keep the two things
separate. So I want to make sure that we amend that the City ofMiami logo cannot be used on
any of the marketing materials. Whatever you guys create as a district, I'm cool with that. And
then closing, my last question was around the financing agreement. You know, we got into this tit
for tat, the Manager andl, on -- and Neil on this whole issue. What happens if he or she decides
they want to cancel this agreement? What cost would the property owners be responsible for?
So let's say I'm in the middle of getting this thing started and all of a sudden, you know, I'm on
the road to get this -- get, you know, financing to do this andl decidedl don't want to do this,
okay, what cost would the property owners be responsible for?
Mr. Schaefer: Fifty dollars.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Only $50?
Mr. Schaefer: Well, I mean, the process is once you sign the finance agreement, you've -- prior
to that, you've signed an agreement to do a project with a contractor. You've maybe had bids
from three or four contractors and very committed to the project, and most of the fees that are
associated with program come at the end using the permitting fees, recording fees, all of those
types offees, and we are --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So no legal fees? No other fees at all?
Mr. Schaefer: No. You --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So -- 'cause you -- you know you're putting this on the record?
Mr. Schaefer: I understand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You're putting -- it's okay. I just want to make sure. You're putting
on the record that if somebody decides to cancel in the midst, that they would have no other fees
but $50.
Mr. Schaefer: Those fees are paid at the end by the program, including the cost recovery fee for
the jurisdiction, which is $100 of the fees, so yes, that's the design of the program. By the time
they're committed to doing the finance agreement, they've already got an approved project under
the program so they're definitely committed in a signed agreement with a contractor to do so.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Did we ever find out in our -- from our last meeting the
City of Coral Gables -- why the City of Coral Gables decided to opt out? Madam CFO, did you
get a chance to speak to them at all?
Ms. Larned: Yes, I did. First, I spoke with the City Manager and then I spoke with their Finance
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director. Actually, the Finance director andl exchanged e-mail (electronic).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I can't really hear you.
Commissioner Gort: Got to speak into --
Ms. Larned: Sony. Gosh, that's the first time anybody's told me --
Commissioner Gort: You have the same problem I have; very soft voice. Yeah.
Ms. Larned: -- I'm talking soft. Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Because that was one of the points I made in the last meeting.
Remember I said --
Ms. Larned: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- you know, considering all the cities that are involved in this
issue, we are probably the biggest City, okay, involved in this whole thing, andl asked the
question was there another city at the table on this and --
Ms. Larned: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- it was communicated yes, Coral Gables was involved, but they
decided to pull back on it. Andl said, okay, staff do the research; let's find out why they decided
to pull back. I mean, I think that, you know, for the most part, Coral Gables has been doing a
pretty good job with managing and handling their city; why did they back out? And what was
the response to that?
Ms. Larned: They're not really backed out. They're holding it in abeyance, if you will. We have
had conversations first with the City Manager and then with their director ofFinance.
Essentially the same concerns we had with liability, they had. It's my understanding -- I have not
had this confirmed -- but it's my understanding they're waiting to see what the City ofMiami
does before they decide whether to move forward.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So in other words, they want to see how it goes with us first
before they decide to jump in this pot?
Ms. Larned: Again, I can't speak for them, but would say that would --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: They had the same concerns?
Ms. Larned: They had the same concerns, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. And --
Mr. Schaefer: May I add to that, please?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sure.
Mr. Schaefer: Yeah. We also met with them and their primary issue was architectural and the
permitting process so that's really --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is that what you got out of it, Madam CFO?
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Ms. Larned: No. I would say that, again, what they had said to me, they were concerned about
the financing agreement. They were concerned about the special assessment. I have not heard
anything -from them since that point in time. If there have been subsequent conversations, I have
not been a party to that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right. And let me just say this, I'm not trying to put you on the
spot --
Ms. Larned: Oh, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- okay. Andl do understand the tough position that you're placed
in and City employees are placed in. My concern is it really drives me absolute -- I'm going to
be nice today. I've been very nice and calm today. But I am going to say that it drives me
absolutely nuts when I see our City employees dragged, you know -- I'm not going to say through
the mud -- but dragged, you know, on issues and projects and programs that they may not
necessarily, you know, agree with, for whatever reason. I'm not saying that that's the case with
you, but you have concerns with. And the whole purpose of us hiring people that are qualified
like you is to be able to trust your opinion. That's why we wanted a CFO, you know. And I'm
not going to sit up here and know that there are some concerns and challenges about a program
and not put it out there because to me, that makes it a part of the problem and not a part of
solution, and quite frankly, every single last one of us sitting up here may be gone five years from
now. I don't want to be in a situation andl don't want to leave behind a mess, for whatever
reason, for the person that has to sit in the D5 seat; can't speak for the other seats. If they want
to leave a mess, for whatever reason, they can. But people elected me to ask the right questions.
And when I can't get a straight answer andl get a hem, I get a huh, I get don't really know, you
know -- that's what we hire you guys to do, you know. So I'm saying this to, you know, the
Manager. I'm saying this to staff. I'm saying this to the Mayor. I'm saying it to whoever thinks
of these wonderful bright projects, which we think they're wonderful, bright ideas -- andl do
understand there's going to be some arguments perhaps on the dais that, you know, it's the
property owner's choice, it's his decision; we're not telling them what to do, but we can think of
three or four things, you know, in City's history was it -- where it was their choice and we find
ourself in a situation that we're digging ourselves out of now because we didn't ask all the right
questions or because, for whatever reason, this particular project was important to a few. So
I've said my part. The only thing that would want to have in here is the amendments, andl
hope you got the amendments, Mr. Manager. As far as I'm concerned from the D5 standpoint, I
would like to at least see that it only be commercial properties and not residential, if that is going
to be an accepted amendment. I think that if a resident wants to upgrade their home and make it
more energy efficient, they have the right and ability to go to any bank and get a $20, 000 loan to
do it. They didn't have to be a part of a district to make that happen. They don't have to be
misled in any way to think the City is offering a new program when, quite frankly, Florida Power
& Light offers it, for the most part, for free, okay. So -- but that's neither here nor there. I am
putting my amendment in, and my amendment is to make sure that it is commercial property,
okay. My other part of this amendment is that I want -- if there is any (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
where the logo's in there, City ofMiami logo can't be associated with it at all, okay. And then
the other thing that think mentioned -- was it another? Was it a number three?
Chair Suarez: No. I think -- I thought there was only two, but I don't know if there was --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. I feel like I'm on a roll, but right now those are the two that
I do know I got a issue with. And with that being said, I will shut my mouth and hear my
colleagues.
Chair Suarez: Can I make a modification to one of your amendments?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
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Chair Suarez: Okay. It's, you know, simply that we limit -- not limit -- that we bring it back
within a certain period of time to analyze the program to see if it should be used for residential
properties as well. In other words, six months, you know, whatever -- whatever time period you
think is sufficient for us to get a track record as to how the program is being used, and then you
can come back and say, you know, we want to expand it to residential. Can we put a time frame
on that?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Absolutely. With the conditions -- I love that idea. So if we give
them, what, a year to come back, not to only look at that, but to also revise anything in this
particular agreement that may be a problem for the City ofMiami residents. So as long as we
can come back and open it up, I'm more than happy with that. That's great.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Awesome idea. But right now my suggestion is that it would only
be commercial and that we look at it a year later.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Supporting you.
Chair Suarez: -- Sarnoff -- Vice Chair Sarnoff -- well, first of all, is there -- do you want us to
take a motion on this? Is there a motion? There's not a motion.
Commissioner Carollo: Make a motion, Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Chair Suarez: As amended, yeah, 'cause you have your two amendments. Do you want to make
a motion, as amended?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm not making a motion.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm not making a motion. I'm just telling you what I want to see in
it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I'd like to make a motion --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- as stated, and let me tell you why.
Commissioner Carollo: And I'll -- hold on. When you say as stated, as stated with amendments?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. No, not with the amendments.
Ms. Thompson: As --
Chair Suarez: Okay, there's a motion by the Vice Chair. Is there a second? I will second the
motion for discussion. I got to pass the gavel.
Commissioner Carollo: He's got the gavel.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right here. Well --
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Chair Suarez: Can you make the motion then?
Vice Chair Sarnoff I don't know. I had it. You handed it to me. I handed it back to you.
Chair Suarez: Well, yeah, I got it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff There you go.
Chair Suarez: I (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Chair Suarez: I second it for discussion.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Let -- you know, ask yourself what is it that we're really doing here. What is
our goal? What is the endgame here? And some of you, andl suspect based on some politics
maybe, may not believe there's global warming going on. I happen to believe there is global
warming. I also happen to believe man is a big product and reason for that global warning. Yes,
I guess I drank the Kool-Aid that Al Gore gave us andl really do believe this. And
coincidentally, this past year was the hottest year on record in the United States. Mere
coincidence? I don't know. Past ten years, seven of them have been near -record hot years.
Coincidence? I don't know. But you all know what I say about Pascalian wages. Everybody
knows Pascal, that famous French philosopher who said, well, I don't know if there is a god, but
for one day a week, for one hour a day, I can go to church. If I'm wrong, I only wasted one hour.
And ifI was right, it's every lasting salvation. So I've always taken Pascalian wagers when it
comes to is there really global warming. Can drive a hybrid? I do. Can ask my wife to drive
a hybrid? And she hated it at first; now she loves it. She does. So I emit 30 percent less
greenhouse gas emissions every time I put myself behind a car. Is it onerous? Is it horrible?
No. I love it, but others may not. This is -- this particular program, promoted by the president of
United States, is a program that is geared towards creating green efficiency by giving everyone
an opportunity, in a very no -must, no fuss way, of giving them products, whether it's windows,
whether it's a new HVAC (Heating, Ventilation andAir-Conditioning) air conditioner system,
whether it's what I'm going to do by the way when this passes, which is put solar panels on my
house at an interest rate that I find palatable, which is 7 percent. Now, could I turn around and
refinance my house ifI chose to? I could, butl choose not to. Why? Because this simply goes in
my property tax bill. My savings are realized by hot water heater, a more energy -efficient air
conditioner system, and windows which I already have. So this provides -- the end goal of this is
really an 11 percent reduction in greenhouse gas. That is the national basis upon which these
local programs are promulgated. Again, you have to believe man creates greenhouse gas.
Scientific evidence, 98 percent of it, would absolutely agree with that. Yet, there are some 2
percenters that think, nah, I don't think man does it. So I couldn't convince a 2 percenter with
the next 35,000 words I have, andl won't be that long, Mr. Chair. But the point of this program
is about greenhouse gas. What's the secondary reason for this program? Jobs. Those people
that are going to go out to the homes and install those particular vendings, if you will, whether
it's air conditioner or whether it's windows or whether it's what I'm going to do, which is a solar
system -- solar panel system, is going to put three, five people to work. Good thing? Bad thing?
I don't know. You guys all talk about jobs up here. I was talking about it five years ago, but we
all talk about jobs here. Puts people to work. Not people by the government of the United
States, not people by the government ofMiami-Dade, and not people by the government of the
City ofMiami. Real jobs, the ones that actually pay taxes. Real jobs that are not created at the
expense of taxpayers. So is that a secondary benefit? Of course it is. Now, finally, could you
kick holes in this? I guess you can. But the Florida Legislature saw some of the cities struggling
with this and passed laws to prevent us from having liability and, to me, they have seen the
concerns of city. Now, I got to tell you, I want to be a part of this program. I want the City of
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Miami logo on this program. I want to be a person that had the foresight, the insight, the
institutional fortitude to say here's an opportunity, Mr. Resident, Mr. Business Owner, to be
greener. I'm not forcing you to be green. I might be Johnny Martinez andl may love BMWs
(Bavarian Motor Works) with big engines that love to throw out greenhouse gases. He may
never want --
Chair Suarez: Not like Commissioner Suarez; has a Fusion, you know.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Exactly. He's got a Fusion. He could have got the hybrid, but he opted for
the less expensive one.
Chair Suarez: It's too much money; can't afford it.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. But that's my point. You had a choice and you had a choice and nobody
forced you to do anything.
Chair Suarez: True.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. But the program is available, and that's all want to do. I don't want to tell
a citizen you have to do this, but I don't want to tell a citizen you can't do this. Everybody else is
starting to do this, and when are we ever on the cutting -edge of anything in Miami? Not very
often. Usually we're three or four years behind anyone else. Usually it's San Diego, Chicago,
LA (Los Angeles), New York, Sunbury, North Carolina, and then all of a sudden we say, hey,
there's a new idea out there. No, it's actually about four years old and it's been done in other
cities. So I want to be a part of this. I want to be -- I want to put my imprimatur on this because
this is something that really believe in. Again, I drank the Kool-Aid. I really do believe there's
global warming. I really do believe man causes it. I would suggest to those that don't believe it,
take a Pascalian wager. Doesn't hurt you to spend a few minutes considering it. Doesn't cost
you a thing. But it does provide citizens an opportunity -- as I always said to the Green
Commission, since 2008 the only green people concern themselves with is the green in their
wallets so they're not really concerned with greenhouse gases. Is it still real? Maybe. I suspect
it is. Ninety-eight percent of the scientists agree with me. But what it does do is it gives them the
ability to be green by using green dollars. Are there residual benefits, jobs and all these other
things? Absolutely. But think about this. This is exactly what the President of the United States
was talking about when he said new jobs are going to be created. This is part and parcel of his
energy policy.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman, can I --?
Chair Suarez: Let Commissioner Gort go and then we'll come back to -- let's let everyone speak
first and then we'll come back to a second round. Go ahead, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Commissioner, I agree with you 100 percent. The house I live in was built
in 1938. It's got a solar system for heater, so I'm a great believer in that. I changed all my
windows. I don't have any problem. I think we need to do this. We all have to do it. And the
thing that needs to make sure is that the City does not have any liability. At the same time, we've
seen within our neighborhood how many people we see on the newspaper all the time are taking
advantage with their mortgages and, let's face it, salespeople, when they --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So true.
Commissioner Gort: -- sell, they promise the moon.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's true.
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Commissioner Gort: Now my question is you already had experience in other states, in other
cities. I'd like to know what is the savings that you have according to --? Because what you're
going to be is you're going to be changing air condition, electrical panels, window replacement,
and solar energy. I don't see any changes in construction that will make any difference in the
house, but there might be. I don't know. But this is the things you're going to do. Right now
Sears got a plan that will do all this and they'll give you 18 month to pay with no interest, all
right. That's something. I want to make sure that we -- when someone is doing a repair of their
home -- and we've seen it before because I get a lot of the calls from the residents -- all of a
sudden they're not happy with a person that performing the contract. They walk out. Or at the
same time, they finish; they are very happy. They replace all the things they needed to be
replaced. Then all of sudden, they were promised that that they were going to be saving X"
amount of money. All of a sudden, they don't realize one-third of what they were promised to be
save and these people stepped out.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: What happened to that assessment? Who -- and this assessment has got the
priority over any other assessment. You know, the banks, will they be aware that these people
are going into this loan? This is the type of question that I'd like to have an answer. Andl met
with the Mayor before. And Mayor, I want to work andl want to do it, but want to make sure
that we have safety built in for our residents. And if we can start with commercial, let's start with
commercial. I mean, these people, they got attorneys, they got lawyers, they got --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- all kinds of people.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: To defend themselves.
Commissioner Gort: They can look at it and they can defend themselves. But we have a lot of
seniors and citizens, homeowners in these neighborhoods. At leastl do in my neighborhood.
Lot of them -- and let me tell you. I can tell you some stories. I can tell you some stories that
have taken place with a lot of these things. I think the program is good. I think we need to
implement the program, but I want to make sure that we can have the safety of our residents.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. --
Commissioner Gort: Andl have -- I got more questions, but (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes. Go ahead.
Commissioner Gort: -- answer.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You made some very good points.
Commissioner Gort: No. I'd like to see the past experience, what the savings had really been
and the difference according to the different changes 'cause the amount of saving can be
according to how many of the items they replace or they take care of it, like the window and this
and that. If they do the whole component, or if it's a single component, what's been the
experience in the other places? I think that's very important. Andl think whoever you're going
to be train -- because we've been told that your people are going to train our employees, all our
business people in the City so they can be -- you're going to certifi, them, that they're going to be
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the greatest, and you got to make sure they're not going to oversell. Because, let's face it,
salesmen --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: They're trying to get a loan.
Commissioner Gort: -- (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) -- they want to get business, they want to sell, and
they all promise the world. The second is the -- are we going to inform the banks that the
property owners and the residential owners is going to get this loan? Are the banks that hold the
mortgage are going to be notified?
Mr. Schaefer: That's true. That's the Florida Statute. It's a 30-day notice. No program can go
forward until the 31st day, and our systems are programmed to ensure that doesn't occur.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. So that's going to be happening. Now, Madam Chair -- Attorney,
by creating this district, everything will be done by the districts, we, the City, will not have any
liability?
Ms. Bru: I think this interlocal agreement is as tight as it can be --
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Ms. Bru: -- with respect to protecting the City ofMiami from liability incurred by the district.
The district is a separate legal entity. With the recent amendments to the chapter in the Florida
Statutes that authorizes this program, it's made it even more separate, you know, from the City's
because now the district itself is considered a local government and can even -- they can do the
assessment, they can enter into the financing agreement, and they can do the collection of the
assessments, which before, the last time this agreement came to you, that was not the case. So
this has been modified to reflect the new law that was approved by the Legislature.
Commissioner Gort: I'm not an attorney, so my question is Section 15. According to what I read
here --
Ms. Bru: This --
Commissioner Gort: -- the party (UNINTELLIGIBLE) shall each be individual and separate
liable and responsible for the action of its officers.
Ms. Bru: Right. But there is very little action that the City, as a party, will be required to take.
Commissioner Gort: We have a member on the board.
Ms. Bru: Excuse me?
Commissioner Gort: We have a member on the board.
Ms. Bru: Well, no, andl wanted to clarify that on the record. The draft thatl have -- the draft
that you have before you, we revised it to take out the elected officials being members of the
district to provide for a property owner from the jurisdiction to be the representative of the City.
So I want to make sure that we're working off of the same draft. We made that amendment
because I had questions about dual office holding, andl think in order to just avoid that whole
issue, the board now will be constituted by representatives from the jurisdiction but not the
elected officials from the jurisdiction, so it will not be elected officials serving on the board.
Now we do need to make sure that on the record we understand, you know, how that appointment
process is going to take place.
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Commissioner Gort: My understanding is the person in there will be representing the City of
Miami.
Ms. Bru: But no --
Commissioner Gort: That's what I read. I'm not an attorney.
Ms. Bru: Right. There will be an individual who will represent the jurisdiction. It'll be rep -- it
will be a property owner from the jurisdiction, not necessarily representing the City ofMiami,
no. It's not representing the City of Miami's interest. It's somebody that the City ofMiami
Commissioners appoint to the initial board and they serve for four years. After the four years,
the board will then accept nominations from you for an appointment of successor, members of
the district.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Chair Suarez: You still -- you got more, Commissioner Gort?
Commissioner Gort: That's all right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want, again -- and my canary down at the end of the dais
here made the comment, you know, that whenever we -- we're making a big -- a decision like this,
it -- for whatever reason, we -- we're not -- and we challenge an issue, it's -- I want us to get
away from us not wanting to be cutting edge. It's not that we don't want to be cutting edge, but
we have a responsibility to ask all the right questions, andl can think of a couple issues. Fire fee
-- a couple things that past Administrations wanting to be coupled -- cutting edge put the City in
financial straits so I just -- whatever our opinions are about the items that come up here, you
know, we have a right to have those opinions from all across the dais. I just want to be clear on
that. I -- part of -- and I've been the one that's really like hammering this issue, I know, on the
PACE thing, and I asked for like the current existing places in Florida where PACE is, so two of
the areas, Kissimmee and Flagler County -- I'm assuming this is the program you're doing,
correct?
Mr. Schaefer: No.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Well --
Mr. Schaefer: We're not --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, PACE --
Mr. Schaefer: -- involved in that program.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so PACE funded programs. And what I'm seeing in
Kissimmee and Flagler County, Florida, it is there. They discussed the negotiation with five
bankers and administrators for the program, but at this point it's on hold. Lantana, which is, I
guess, another part of Florida, echo City's partnership, they're launch their project this month.
Several additional cities have expressed a interest. The thing that stands out for me is when I
start seeing things like Leon County program appears to be on hold, pending lawsuit, Gulfport --
according to Gulfport, Patch, on January 18 the City Commission halted its efforts to move
forward with PACE. I mean, I just want us to -- guys, we have a responsibility to make sure we
do our due diligence on why other cities are saying let's really look at this thing. And then not
only that -- andl want to be open and honest about it -- this wasn't in reference to the residential.
This was in reference to the residential part, not the commercial so that was the reason why I
said, okay, you know what? I'm willing to try the commercial part of it. I see other colleagues
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across the state saying, hey, look, I think it's a great initiative for us to start with, but let's start
from the commercial side so -- like my fellow colleague, Commissioner Gort, has stated so that
we don't have in our neighborhoods where we're affected the most -- you know, homeowners, you
know, for whatever reason -- maybe they didn't understand what they were signing -- calling our
offices, or the individuals that follow us afterward that get in this seat, you know, we're not able
to answer the questions. So for me, you know, I know that -- you know, I made the amendments
on the commercial part of it because I think that at least that's showing that we're moving in the
right direction and we're at least making a good faith effort to kind of maybe perhaps see if the
program could work, you know. I think that was a good suggestion. I think the Chairman's
suggestion, okay, let's revisit this a year later, as long as we have the ability to open it back up.
Why wouldn't we want that to be amended to include if there is a problem in the program or the
PACE program, we, as a City Commission, whether the ones that are sitting here or the ones
after us, have the ability to weigh in. I don't -- I mean, to me, any kind of action that we can put
in place to protect the residents of our districts, we should be ecstatic about doing. I don't even
understand how we got here.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, no problem. My two guard wants me to take the
lead on this one. That's no problem. Just a couple things. I'll try to be very brief. I think a lot
has been said on this issue. I remember when first brought this to the Commission there was a
lot of discussion, there were a lot of questions, there were a lot of concerns. I had a lot of
concerns. Andl think what evolved from that was, in my discussions with the Manager and with
Janice, was that there was about ten or eleven issues, which is not insignificant for an item, you
know, that comes before the Commission. My understanding is that all ten or eleven of them or
however many there were -- I don't know exactly how many there were -- were resolved. In other
words, were agreed upon between the Administration and the company.
Mr. Martinez: That's correct.
Chair Suarez: Okay. So I just wanted to put that on the record. Then -- and a couple of other
things. One is, you know, I'm in the real estate business, as you mentioned, andl -- being in the
real estate business, being a real estate attorney, you are -- you spend a lot of time in the lending
world, andl can tell you that -- andl don't know if my other colleagues agree with me, butt can
tell you that fin -- it's not easy to get a $20,000 loan, you know. It's very, very difficult And
what I asked him off the record was what's their loan -to -value ratio, and they go up to 85
percent. Andl could tell you that that 5 percent -- that difference from 80 to 85 you won't get a
bank to finance, I guarantee it. I will put my professional reputation on the line. At least right
now. Maybe in five years, maybe in ten years, certainly during the boom 'cause in the boom they
were financing over 100 percent.
Commissioner Gort: Hundred percent, 120.
Chair Suarez: But they have been so burned -- the banks have been so burned that they've
scaled back so much that you're lucky to get an 80 percent loan -to -value loan right now. I can
give you countless examples of people that have -- make a good amount of money and still can't
do it. The other thing is, you know, I'm a member of the Miami -- you guys made me a member
of the Miami Dade League of Cities and I'm on the executive board and they are a big proponent
of this, you know, so that's something that, to me, is influential because that's a conglomeration
of all the cities in the county. It's not just the City of Miami. And the last thing is, look -- I mean,
I'll be honest with you. I could support either one. I could support, you know, your amendments.
I could support your motion. So, you know, I feel like I'm in a -- kind of a tough position because
I support -- I really do support the program, generally. So you know, the fact of the matter is, I'd
be willing to go as far as him, but I'd also be willing to kind of retract. So I don't know where
that leaves us.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, let me just say this, Mr. Chairman. I mean, we all have to
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work up here together cause we all --
Chair Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- have to represent our residents.
Chair Suarez: And we do. I think we do.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And -- right -- for the most part, I'm saying if Commissioner Gort
andl are saying -- and you, you even said, okay, I could support this if, you know, we started it
off with commercial real estate -- commercial properties first. That's an amendment because you
think that that's something that's, you know, palatable for now. You know, our -- all of our input
should be -- especially when we're making a decision like this, it should be valued and it should
be supported.
Chair Suarez: I agree.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You know, so I'm saying for us to turn around and say, well, no, I
don't want to support the amendment and we clearly have PACE programs in the state of Florida
that says, you know what, we opted out of the residential part of it, but we're doing the
commercial side of it, that's -- to me that's significant and that's important.
Chair Suarez: Okay. From a procedural perspective, we are -- the -- our posture right now is
that the Vice Chair made a motion. I seconded the motion. Now I don't know -- does -- Mr. Vice
Chair, do you want to vote on this or do you want to do a straw poll and see if there 's consensus?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F). I want to see something happen.
Commissioner Carollo: Can I speak beforehand?
Chair Suarez: Sure, please.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. I haven't spoken on this item. First of all, I think it's
important to state that, you know, I appreciate all the work that Ms. Larned has done, andl think
while I was up here, are seen firsthand the reason that someone up here pushed so hard for a
CFO.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Commissioner Carollo: And, you know, I truly appreciate all your work, you know. And
Commissioner Spence -Jones mentioned that, you know, when we hire professionals, we should
listen to our professionals. Andl truly appreciate all the work that you have done. I know that
at times it was difficult because, again, you asked the tough questions, you did the analysis, andl
can say I truly appreciate all the work that you have done. At the same time, I also want to
commend the Manager because I know that at first, this seems to be going so fast and on several
occasions, you said, hey, listen, the information that just came about, I just received it, you just
received it, Commissioner. You know what, I respect the five-day rules. I'm not going to railroad
this, and you deferred it, you know, and you did that on several occasions, so I really commend
you on that. It speaks volume, you know, andl appreciate your patience. Now, with the issue at
hand, I'm sort of like Commissioner Suarez or Chairman Suarez, I could go either way, but
would like to see some compromise. It seems to me like, listen, if we wait a year and then bring it
back to maybe allow residential properties, then, realistically, you know, it does seem
reasonable. And I'm hoping that we could, you know, maybe, you know, have some flexibility
where we can all reach a consensus, like we've done, and really vote on this unanimously
because it appears that -- mind you, after that punch list of ten, eleven items that I know took
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weeks from the Administration working with you all but got through it -- and I've asked
point-blank to our City Manager, I've asked point-blank to our CFO, you know, their feelings
about this, you know. And we have gone from day to night from what was first presented to us to
after that punch list that was worked out. It's been day and night. And it seems like all of us
have enough confidence now in this to support it, but it seems like, you know, we're -- we don't
want to -- we want to go slow, and it seems like we could possibly have a compromise here if we
do commercial and then within a year, bring it back to see how it went and then do, you know,
residential if it's gone good, along with any other problematic area that maybe we need to adjust.
It seems reasonable. And I'm just hoping that, you know, we can maybe vote on something that
we can all agree on and hopefully have some flexibility. So like Chairman Suarez said, you
know, I could go either way, but I think we should vote, you know. I would hope that we're not
placed in a position where we will possibly have to turn one down and not the other. You know,
if -- you know, I would like to discuss it a little bit more; maybe come to some compromise. I
think it's reasonable what's been asked and, you know, I'm hoping we could vote on that.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Martinez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: I just want to say real quick and then I'm going to recognize Commissioner Gort,
then the Manager.
Mr. Martinez: Okay.
Chair Suarez: But I just want to say real quick something I failed to say when I made my
comments, which is that I'm going to take advantage of this program for myself personally. I'm
going to do retrofits to my house and take advantage of the program so that's how much I believe
in the program. I agree with you that -- I mean, I will literally use the (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
And the cool thing about the program is that you can use it for a lot of things. You know, it's a
variety of different things that the program can be used for, so I personally am going to take
advantage of it. I understand the issues that you all have raised andl -- you know, I
acknowledge them, but I just want to put that on the record. Commissioner Gort and then the
Manager.
Commissioner Gort: My understanding is we're -- if this passes, we're going to get quarterly
reports.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We're going to get quarterly reports.
Commissioner Gort: Quarterly reports, according to the contract, what I read.
Mr. Schaefer: Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean --
Commissioner Gort: I mean, it's -- this is the document that I have.
Mr. Schaefer: Yeah, absolutely.
Commissioner Gort: That it will quarterly report come to us so we know what's taking place --
Mr. Schaefer: Right.
Commissioner Gort: -- how's it going. Any new program that you begin anywhere, you have to
debug it. They all have bugs. I'd rather have the business person with the knowledge be part of
this than rather the residents, that they don't have any knowledge what they're signing and what
they're doing, and that's why I be in favor if it be only for commercial, give the residential out,
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and we have quarterly report. It might not have to be a year. If within the quarterly reports we
can see that this works and people are happy with it, we can change it.
Chair Suarez: But it --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And l just wanted to make sure -- Mr. Chairman, I just want to
make sure we have that option. I think quarterly reports until the program's actually up and
running is going to be difficult for them to accomplish. I think you got to give them at least a
year to look back at the program and then see whether or not it's actually working, but I'm open
to that. I just think that it's important for us to start slow and that's my only comment.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Martinez: Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: Yes. Mr. Manager, you're recognized.
Mr. Martinez: I believe that the -- one of the proposed solutions of starting with the baby steps
of just a residential -- not -- just the commercial without the residential is a good step in the right
direction. It's even made better with the amendment of coming back to the Commission with a
report to see how it's doing. But we'll also have the extra data of the cities that are including the
residential to evaluate how they're doing and questioning them, so it's not just evaluating the
commercial component that the City's going through, but what other cities have done. That's
number one.
Chair Suarez: I just want to make sure that this doesn't, you know, fester because you know what
happens sometimes is that we say we're going to bring something back but we don't necessarily
do it, so I want to put it -- that's why I wanted to put an actual time frame.
Mr. Martinez: And the other thing, you expressed that you want to do the program. And,
Commissioner Sarnoff, you're not your average residential owner that's very savvy and knows all
the tricks --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Martinez: -- and the language so --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: No, I -- listen, I don't -- I'm not saying that I don't agree with any of the issues
that they made up. No. I'm just saying that I -- the only thing I'm saying is that I'm going to take
advantage of it.
Mr. Martinez: Right.
Chair Suarez: Andl think -- and I'll be honest with you. I'll take it a step further. I think a lot of
people in my generation are going to take advantage of it because I think it's a generational
thing in many ways. We're much more conscience of our impact on the environment and we're
also -- we don't really have the financial wherewithal to just come out of pocket cash and redo
our roof or redo our windows. I've been postponing redoing my windows, which I need to redo
since I bought the house like four years ago. So, you know, it's -- it gives us -- you an
opportunity to do it in a way that is inexpensive and very convenient.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Mr. Chair.
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Chair Suarez: Yes.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. You know, predatory lending is not going to go away today with this vote.
Tomorrow somebody's going to go knock on somebody's door and who knows what they're going
to sell and how they're going to sell it. You know, the question you have to ask yourself, you
know, the President got elected almost four years ago and this was the first program he willed
out, which was green jobs, green program, and we're still debating four years later whether this
is a good or bad thing. Just so you understand, you all have reasonably no impact through the
commercial side of this program. It will have no real impact. So if this was nothing more than a
let's get it started -- you know, I'm not ignorant; I can count to three as well, but it's not going to
have the reason why I'm voting for it, and the reason I wanted to vote for it was to actually
reduce greenhouse gas emission. You're not even going to have a 1 percent impact on
greenhouse gases but -- and the other thing I'd say is, you know, you can't always pass laws to
the lowest common denominator. Sometimes you have the pass a law that allows everyone a
fruitful ability to enjoy. You can't not pass a law because somebody may be taken advantage of
because for every one person taken advantage of twenty-five people may be doing very well with
it. So, you know, I just wonder sometimes in this country where we become in a country of laws
that we create. But I'm not stupid; I know that I can count to three as well, but I don't think it's
going to have the impact of the reason why I'm voting for it. I'm simply voting for it because it's
a start, but it's not going to have any impact on the environment because let's be real. Think of
this City ofMiami and think about the type of buildings we have. It's just not going to have the
impact on the green -- it's not going to have the true motive behind it. Will it have a secondary
impact on some jobs? I think you all are going to be decidedly unimpressed with what this is
going to do.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Do you want -- just from a procedural perspective, do you want to --
a vote on your motion or do you want to withdraw your motion?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I'm going to take a vote on my motion just so I know that I did what I
thoughtl should do is right andl don't mean that disrespectfully to anyone. I just think -- I think
I want to achieve -- you know, I believe -- I really believe in this. I really believe in greenhouse
gases. I really want to make a dent in greenhouse gases. It's that famous think globally, act
locally. I mean, you cut down America's greenhouse gases by 11 percent, you cut down its oil
consumption by 4 percent, and you're not in Iraq. You cut it down by 6 percent, you're not in
Afghanistan. Gee, never thought of it that way.
Chair Suarez: Yes. Yes, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Call the question.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. Are you good?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I'm --
Commissioner Gort: He wants to hear his motion.
Chair Suarez: Okay. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
Chair Suarez: Aye.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Aye.
Commissioner Carollo: No.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No.
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Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: No.
Chair Suarez: Fails 3-2. Is there another motion?
Ms. Bru: Mr. Chair.
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Bru: If you're going to consider another motion regarding commercial, I would like
definition of what commercial is. Is it single --? I mean, you're --
Chair Suarez: Not residential.
Ms. Bru: Well -- but -- so you're excluding multifamily also, such as high-rise buildings or --?
Chair Suarez: No, no, no, no, no, no.
Ms. Bru: Okay. I need a good definition of commercial.
Chair Suarez: That's a good point.
Chair Suarez: She's right. She's right.
Chair Suarez: That's a good point.
Chair Suarez: Is -- in other words, is 10/10 museum commercial or residential?
Chair Suarez: Single-family residences, is that what we're really focused on?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. I think that's --
Chair Suarez: Single-family residences, so we will exclude for the next year single-family
residence and then we will come back to this Commission in a year to evaluate the success of the
program, whether there's any faults, whether there's anything to be fixed, and then we'll go
forward potentially with the --
Ms. Bru: So do we include --
Chair Suarez: -- single family.
Ms. Bru: -- or exclude duplexes?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right. I was about to say that.
Commissioner Gort: No.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right.
Commissioner Carollo: Right. Duplexes --
Chair Suarez: Single-family residence.
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Commissioner Gort: Duplex.
Ms. Bru: But that --
Mr. Martinez: Commissioner.
Chair Suarez: And duplexes?
Commissioner Carollo: Duplex, fourplex.
Mr. Martinez: Can I have --
Chair Suarez: You want four -- you want to exclude fourplexes too?
Commissioner Carollo: No, no. But we're saying what's a single family?
Chair Suarez: Right.
Mr. Martinez: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: Because a duplex --
Mr. Martinez: Anything above a duplex --
Commissioner Carollo: -- is not a single family.
Mr. Martinez: -- is considered commercial, but I'd like Francisco to clam that.
Commissioner Carollo: Well, actually, duplexes are not considered --
Mr. Martinez: Duplex are residential. Above --
Commissioner Carollo: Right.
Mr. Martinez: -- duplex, commercial.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Carollo: Actually, no. Fourplex and below --
Chair Suarez: What about by T3. What about if we say T3?
Unidentified Speaker: T4 and above.
Chair Suarez: T3, I think, is better 'cause T4, there's commercial -- you can do commercial on
T4.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Yeah.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Francisco Garcia: But -- Francisco Garcia, Planning & Zoning director. What I would like to
recommend you consider is that if your intent is to exclude residential, single-family residential
low density, that you stick to the T3 category which includes both single-family residential and
duplex.
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Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Chair Suarez: What a great idea that was. Anyhow, so --
Ms. Larned: As a point of clarification, though, in the --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Larned: -- T3s we also have reuses, like churches or schools or child care centers, that
might be able to benefit from this program that we would like to make sure that they would not be
Chair Suarez: T3?
Ms. Lamed: -- otherwise excluded.
Chair Suarez: Those are T3 buildings?
Ms. Sabilia: I believe by special exception they're allowed to do it or by exception in the code.
Barnaby Min: That is correct. Barnaby Min, Zoning administrator. Ms. Sabilia is correct.
Chair Suarez: Okay. So -- wow, this gets a little more complicated than --
Commissioner Gort: No.
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Ms. Sabilia: I think-- ifI can offer --
Chair Suarez: What about --
Commissioner Gort: He's got to answer. Come on.
Chair Suarez: What about -- no. I was going to say what about -- if what we're doing is we're
looking at a T3 and all the different properties, then why don't we just pick the ones in the T3
that we want to use?
Mr. Garcia: Right. And what would like to suggest to that end is that you mention specifically
single family and duplex.
Commissioner Gort: And duplex. That's it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. Guys -- because we're talking about the predatory lending
portion of it. I mean, that, for the most part, is going to be focused on. We're trying not to --
Commissioner Gort: So moved. I'll make a motion to approve according to the amendments.
And this is first reading. No, it's second reading.
Commissioner Carollo: No.
Ms. Bru: Res --
Mr. Martinez: Resolution.
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Commissioner Gort: This is it, resolution, all right.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. Okay, wait. Hold on a second. Before we -- did we get a motion on it?
Commissioner Gort: I made the motion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F).
Chair Suarez: Okay, the motion as stated by --
Commissioner Gort: Motion to approve.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Spence -Jones --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, I second the motion.
Chair Suarez: Okay, I'm sorry. Okay. So then you got to articulate the motion, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: The motion is to approve with the amendments recommended by the
Commission.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Is there a second? Somebody better second it 'cause if not, it's going to
die. So ifI have to second it, I'll second it.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) second --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Well --
Commissioner Carollo: -- which --
Commissioner Gort: Denied.
Commissioner Carollo: -- she's going to do what she wants.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right.
Commissioner Carollo: You're --
Vice Chair Sarnoff What was the point?
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You seconded it, right?
Commissioner Carollo: No, I haven't second it. But I'm just wondering why you wouldn't
second when it was -- all the amendments that you're adding to it are there?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But we all -- wait a minute. These not just Spence -Jones
amendments. There were a lot of amendments on here, so discussion on this item.
Commissioner Carollo: What were the other amendments?
Commissioner Gort: You need to second the amendment.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second it.
Commissioner Carollo: What were the other amendments?
Chair Suarez: I'll second it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Commissioner Carollo: And with that said, can we just verifi, what the amendments are? Since
he -- you know that all the amendments of the Commission. You know, I think -- unless you want
to say, you know, for the City Clerk to go back to the record and all the amendments, but --
Vice Chair Sarnoff What does the maker of the motion believe his motion to be?
Commissioner Gort: The maker of the motion I believe is to be -- to exempt the single family of
T3 single family and duplexes.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right, so --
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- the maker is excluding T3 --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And it comes back.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- single family and duplexes in T3.
Commissioner Gort: And will return within a year to look at the program.
Vice Chair Sarnoff And to return back to this Commission in one year from the program. That
is your motion, correct, Mr. Maker?
Commissioner Gort: That's the motion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: With the ability that within this year period of time, if we see that
things are not operating properly, for whatever reason, in the program, we have the ability to
make amendments or make changes, correct? Not just --
Vice Chair Sarnoff I'm not sure that's the making of the motion. That's more discussion. So are
you -- I think what you're saying is --
Commissioner Gort: That's my motion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Correct me if I'm wrong. You'd like his motion to include quarterly reports?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, that's --
Commissioner Gort: No, that's part of the contract.
Chair Suarez: It's already there.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Part of the contract.
Commissioner Gort: No, that's part of the contract.
Chair Suarez: It's already there. It's already there.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. All right. So there --
Chair Suarez: Andl second the motion.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. There's the motion. Motion and a second.
Chair Suarez: Andl second the motion 'cause if not, this thing's going to die.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Anybody need any further discussion? I doubt it, right? Good. All in
favor, then, please say aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Cool.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. All right, thank you.
Ms. Sabilia: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: Take a five-minute recess or --?
Chair Suarez: Yeah. We're going to take a five-minute recess. We'll be back in session -- you
know what, let's do a ten-minute recess 'cause I know a five-minute recess always becomes a
ten-minute recess. We'll be back in session at 6: 25, how 'bout that? Fourteen -minute recess,
6: 25, and you guys know we'll be on at 6: 25.
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DISTRICT 1
COMMISSIONER WIFREDO (WILLY) GORT
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DISTRICT 2
VICE-CHAIRMAN MARC DAVID SARNOFF
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION ABOUT DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO BEGIN FORECLOSURE OR SALE OF SPECIAL
ASSESSM ENTS.
12-00227 City Attorney - Foreclosure or Sale Assess. pdf
DISCUSSED
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Chair Suarez: This is what we're going to do.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Thank you.
Chair Suarez: We're going to do the other discussion item of Commissioner Sarnoff and then
we're going to do the Mayor's discussion item so, hopefully, the Mayor, if he's around, will be
here to do it 'cause he has another discussion item.
Commissioner Gort: Andl have a pocket item.
Chair Suarez: And we can do your pocket item too. So let's start with the foreclosure or sale of
special assessment, Commissioner Sarnoff.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Sorry, Mr. Chair. I was remised again. Won't happen again. What was
your question?
Chair Suarez: No. I'm sorry. No. We're -- what we decided to do, since we don't have
everybody here, is to go with a -- with your discussion item next.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. This is just a reminder. I'm curious where we stand. It's really for you and
me because I think we both have had some interests in this.
Chair Suarez: Yep.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Have we ever foreclosed on anything, whether it's a special assessment,
whether it's a lien? And if we have not, why not? Reminds me a little bit of the Chief of Police
conversation.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. And you're very good at clearing things up, so I'm just --
Commissioner Gort: I understand --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- cleaning it up.
Commissioner Gort: -- we had received up to $23, 000 in liens payment.
Chair Suarez: Look, you -- I agree -- appreciate the fact that you're kind of stepping in on this
because I -- you know, I think with a lot of things in government, you get tired. You get tired of
saying the same thing over and over and over again, and so it's nice when somebody is willing to
kind of step in and maintain that energy level on an issue that is very important, andl think this
issue is very important. I don't know if the City Attorney -- I know that we had had a discussion
item or she was going to prepare a synopsis of -- you have it?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Yeah. Vicky Mendez distributed to your offices this afternoon the
spread sheet that we have so far, showing you the files that we've received, how they're been
categorized, and what has happened, and she's making herself available any time you want to go
through the actual data.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So without -- andl didn't review it, and I'm going to be candid. Maybe the
Chair --
Chair Suarez: No, I didn't.
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Vice Chair Sarnoft -- since he's a multi-tasker, did. Have we -- just with regard to special
assessments, how are we doing?
Ms. Bru: Okay. Thus far, the only amounts that have been collected has been $23, 675. But if
you look at the spread sheet, it'll show you where we are in the process. A lot of these liens we're
telling the Department of Finance just to extinguish them because either they we are not properly
recorded, you know, so these are -- we're cleaning up the universe of what we thought were, you
know, thousands of dollars in collectables. The ones that we believe -- we're doing the due
diligence. The ones that we believe have value -- because a lot of these properties are so upside
down that the taxes that are owed are worth more than the value of the property, so what are we
going to foreclose.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So --
Chair Suarez: Wait. Wait, wait, wait. I don't think there's too many properties where the taxes
owed are worth more than the value of the property.
Ms. Bru: They --
Chair Suarez: That's a very difficult -- that's very difficult.
Ms. Bru: -- they're in the list of lands --
Chair Suarez: 'Cause even -- let -- 'cause remember that taxes are on the basis of property
value.
Ms. Bru: Right.
Chair Suarez: So let's assume that -- and you can go delinquent on your property taxes for three
years before being foreclosed, so you got to add three years of taxes. But even in a house that
pays $10, 000 in taxes, that's only $30, 000. And a house that's paying $10, 000 in taxes is a
house that's worth over half a million dollars. So you know, the math doesn't really work on
that.
Ms. Bru: Well, again, I have an attorney who's doing nothing but this and she can sit down with
you, file any file that you have a question on. But a lot of these -- a lot of the properties are also
on the list of lands which are properties that have already gone through the process and now the
County is taking them over.
Vice Chair Sarnoff But let me ask a question like this. Let me try to cut through this a little bit.
This Commission for the past three years -- two years certainly -- has been actively pursuing this
City to special assess properties namely for unsafe structures --
Chair Suarez: Lot clearing.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- and lot clearing. Okay.
Chair Suarez: Demo.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So how many properties, Madam City Attorney, have been lot cleared or
demolished and have proper special assessments placed on the property?
Ms. Bru: Okay.
Chair Suarez: How much is the value of that?
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Ms. Bru: The spread sheet that we've prepared answers that question. It's just that we would
have to then look at the different categories.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. More than ten? More than 15?
Ms. Bru: I would have to then now segregate them. But I can tell you that there's a lot of
properties that we could own the properties if we paid off the taxes; and we have identified them,
we know how much the assessed value is, we know how much the taxes are owed, and we have
sent memos to the Administration saying let us know; do you want us to move in and pay off the
taxes so that we can acquire the property. But we need the money to do that.
Chair Suarez: Right. Look, I think what we should do -- this is my humble suggestion -- is for
you to brief us because you haven't had a chance to look this, I haven't had a chance to look at
it, so there's really no -- nothing much that we can add here. I mean -- and we can bring it back
in a month.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. But there's also something very interesting she said, and I'll shut up after
this. But you know, there may be an opportunity here with CDBG (Community Development
Block Grant) money to finally acquire a home --
Chair Suarez: Oh, I love that.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- right.
Chair Suarez: Do a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Put a person --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, or do --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- in it. You want to put a senior. You want to -- I don't know. You know,
whatever you think is right, and now you have a home that's unoccupied or -- yeah, probably it is
unoccupied. And now instead of hiring a developer and giving him an extension of time because
he didn't get his Tallahassee tax credits and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
now all of a sudden you have a home that could be occupied 60 to 90 days with --
Commissioner Gort: We're trying that. I mean --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- we're working with CDBGs to do that with some of the buildings that
been abandoned within the area. But I'm sure that a lot of developers that were willing to buy it
from us and --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. That's true too.
Commissioner Gort: -- and go ahead and build it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. You know, Cleveland, Ohio, Commissioners, is doing this. Cleveland, Ohio,
is -- it's a ransacked city. I usually joke about Cleveland because it's the exact same size as the
City ofMiami, and somebody'll say, well, traffic's a huge problem here. And I'll say, well, you
could be in Cleveland; traffic's not a problem there, but you wouldn't want to be in Cleveland.
Chair Suarez: Ask LeBron where he wants to be.
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Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right. But -- right, you wouldn't live in Cle -- well, I shouldn't say that, but
you wouldn't want to. So all I'm saying is if -- There was a great 60 Minutes piece. It was done
in December. It talked about how they were using their CDBG dollars and what they were
doing. I just -- I don't know. I feel like we're a little bit on that hamster wheel. Like a little bit
we're on that hamster wheel for the hiring of police officers. I just -- I think we get a lot of this
andl don't know what really gets done.
Ms. Bru: Okay. I counted right off the bat here 17 individual properties that could be purchased
just by paying off the taxes. So we're going to set up a meeting with each of you individually with
the attorney who specializes in this so that we can go through this and have a better
understanding of how successful we are in this endeavor.
Commissioner Gort: Let me ask a question. The $23, 000 that we've collected, what did it go to?
Ms. Bru: We send it to Finance. You have -- I don't know where Finance --
Commissioner Gort: Well, we need to create a special fund --
Ms. Bru: That's --
Chair Suarez: Yep.
Commissioner Gort: -- Like a revolving --
Chair Suarez: Yep.
Commissioner Gort: -- loan fund so we can go ahead and continue to purchase all those taxes.
Chair Suarez: And I think that's what, you know, kind of Commissioner Spence -Jones was
alluding to in the other issue, but we can expand what the fund can be for, you know, not just to
Commissioner Gort: Sure.
Chair Suarez: -- demolish structures or not just to put metallic coverings, but also to potentially
Commissioner Gort: Purchase.
Chair Suarez: -- buy properties, so I think that's a great idea. So I think we're going to have an
individual -- yes, sir.
Anthony Whitfield: Thank you so much. I know it's not opened, but I understand where you're
coming from. Before we demolish these buildings, can we please use some of these buildings to
train individuals on how to put it back green? Again, it goes back to your excellent situation
where you coming from, andl do agree with you, but instead of knocking the buildings down, we
would like to utilize that list that she has --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Mr. Whitfield: -- and maybe we can get outside funding to pay off the taxes on the back end and
then turn it green.
Chair Suarez: Yeah. Listen, I think you should contact the Administration, you know, and you
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guys can talk and see, you can evaluate the properties and stuff. But the properties that we
demolish are in very bad shape. I mean, they're not -- pretty much not rehabable. I mean,
they're like, you know, missing walls or missing a piece of the roof or -- maybe not the roof
'cause that roof can be fixed, but they're usually in pretty, pretty bad condition.
Mr. Whitfield: Yes, sir.
Chair Suarez: So -- I mean, I hear you and I --
Mr. Whitfield: In order to go LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certifi --
be able to be zero footprint, you have to gut all the electric out, all the walls out anyway.
Commissioner Gort: Name and address.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Mr. Whitfield: So that's not really a bad deal.
Chair Suarez: Can you put your name and address on the record, sir, please. I'm sorry.
Mr. Whitfield: Yes. Anthony Whitfield, 6112 Northwest 7th Avenue, Star Medical.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Whitfield: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. You know, Anthony, it's not a bad idea to --
Chair Suarez: It's not a bad idea.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- create a list --
Chair Suarez: It's not a bad idea.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- of potential homes. And I thought you were going the approach me and I
thought you were going to say, and what we could do, Commissioner, is actually create a job
training program to teach people how to rehabilitate these houses. I don't know if that's not --
Mr. Whitfield: That's exactly what said.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Oh, is that what you --?
Mr. Whitfield: Yes, exactly what said.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. See, that I heard it perfectly.
Mr. Whitfield: You got it right.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I heard it perfectly. I thought that's what you said.
Mr. Whitfield: What it does is is gives individuals training on construction.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right.
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Mr. Whitfield: You understand?
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Mr. Whitfield: All right. Thankyou.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Mr. Whitfield: Anymore questions?
Chair Suarez: No.
Mr. Whitfield: All right. Thankyou.
D2.2 DISCUSSION ITEM
12-00253
STATUS OF HIRING POLICE OFFICERS.
12-00253 Email - Status of Hiring Police Officers.pdf
DISCUSSED
Direction by Vice Chair Sarnoff to the City Attorney to provide a report within 30 days that
clearly identifies the issues within the hiring process that are causing delays in hiring police
officers.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Do you want us to go to the police hiring issue before --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Could we?
Chair Suarez: -- anything else?
Vice Chair Sarnoff Is that all right? Yeah. Is that all right with you?
Chair Suarez: Yeah. I'm okay with that.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Vice Chair Sarnoff Yeah. It's not going to be too complicated. So, Mr. Chair, what I'd like to
bring up is my District 2 page item, which I promised you I'd bring up every Commission
meeting. And I've been remiss, Mr. Chair. I haven't brought it up I think at the last meeting.
Andl want to thank you for the opportunity to do this on a more scheduled basis so that the
citizens and the Administration can see where it is. As you all know, we have been about 50 --
get my notes out -- about 52 to 55 police officers down. We are presently, ifI am correct, I think
71 --
Chief ManuelOrosa (Police): Eighty-four.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- 84 -- we went up since this morning -- police officers down. Now I think
it's time that -- we've been going over this since November, Mr. Manager, and it has been a
long, long process. I watched this engulf one chief of police. I'm watching it engulf a second
chief of police. And here's what this means to people. You need 404 officers to patrol the City of
Miami. He has 404 officers. He has a little under a thousand, about seventy-five right now, a
little less than that. But what he has to do is he has to go into the detective bureau or he needs to
go into the problem solving team, and those people no longer are problem solvers and those
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people are no longer detectives. He puts them on the street and that means that the crimes that
have been committed are not going to be solved and the problem -solving teams that he uses for
trouble areas don't have the mandatory staffing that he needs. This chief in addition wanted to
increase patrol from 404 officers to 420 officers. He simply doesn't have that ability. The reason
he doesn't have that ability is a problem with your Administration's department with regard to
hiring. Now, well you could shake your finger no all you want. Here's the bottom line. You have
hired about -- what did he hire, 16 police officers since we've spoken about this?
Chief Orosa: Yes.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. And in the process of hiring 16 police officers, you have lost over 70.
Chief Orosa: We lost the 16 plus more.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Plus one, okay. So we're not even making up ground, and we have looming
250 officers in 2014 or '15 that are going to be leaving the City ofMiami. Whatever is bottling
you up right now hasn't been able to be resolve for the better part, I would say, a year and a half,
but I could defer and say seven or eight months. You better fix whatever is broken 'cause you're
getting to crisis. Andl don't use that word lightly. You're getting to crisis with the number of
police officers you have. You don't have enough police officers. Your lateral hires are not
coming in and your new hires, you're not making it. Now, I'll shut up and let the chief clean up
what I said, but remember he's there -- he's not going to be as bold as I'm going to be because he
is the chief of police. I am the canary in the cave. There is ammonia gas in the cave. I'm letting
you know that, Mr. Manager. There is ammonia gas in the cave. We're not dying yet, but the
canary is turning colors. Chief.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's a great one.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. It's true.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can I take that one, too?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. You can have that one, too.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But the canary's dying. Go ahead, Chief.
Chief Orosa: Okay. Good afternoon, Manny Orosa, Chief of Police. Basically right now we
have 84 open slots. We -- when I started, we had 54 and we had hired 16. The 16 officers are
working, working hard in the street. However, because of attrition and retirements, et cetera,
we're down to 84 now. We're up 84. We did a recruitment for certified officers which is the fast
way of hiring officers, and we did that in December and it was for two weeks. After that, it was
closed, andl believe March -- December 2 it was closed and we received the list from ER
(Employee Relations) in March, and we've been vigorously working on that list.
Armando Aguilar: Armando Aguilar, executive assistant to the chief of Police. We received the
first batch -- well, we received 373 applications, processed the first batch of 120 applicants, and
we're down to 56 applicants who have not yet been disqualified. They're still being processed.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. How long you been doing this?
Mr. Aguilar: We received the list in mid -February. Within about two days, sorted the list into
the required residency groups; gave veteran's preference to ensure that veterans were the first
applicants to be processed and hired, mailed out the packages, and then three weeks later the
orientation packages were mailed out along with forms for each person to take to their physician
so that they could be cleared to undergo the physical agility testing. And three weeks later, we
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conducted orientation, began the background screening, physical agility testing, psychological
testing and polygraph testing on these applicants.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So you have 56 applicants as a result of a process that began when?
Mr. Aguilar: Well, we have -- we invited 120, and we're down to 56 that have not been
disqualified. The process began in mid -November.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So it's taken you from mid -November to get to 56 applicants, right?
Mr. Aguilar: In a nutshell.
Chief Orosa: It has taken the police department from February --from late February to now to
get to 56 applicants. From November to February, it was out of our hands.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Here's how -- you know, I --
Commissioner Gort: That's the problem.
Vice Chair Sarnoff --call this City speak, which is okay. I promised the City Manager I would
not be an attorney and cross-examine anyone and won't. But I'm going to tell you what hear.
Even if you had -- let's say 56 of these applicants, you get 30 of them to come. Not a bad ratio,
you agree?
Chief Orosa: Correct.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Okay. By the time they're hired and all, you'll be down another 20 cops.
Chief Orosa: Hopefully not. Hopefully, these 56 we can --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Is it just me that sees the crisis or the problem? This has --
Chief Orosa: Commissioner --
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- swallowed other chiefs.
Chief Orosa: I think that you're right that we'll never make up ground at the rate we're going
and basically --
Johnny Martinez (City Manager): We lose more --
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute.
Mr. Martinez: -- positions than we fill.
Commissioner Gort: No, no.
Vice Chair Sarnoff So --
Chief Orosa: Exactly.
Mr. Martinez: Let me just say one thing.
Chair Suarez: What are we doing about it, is what he's asking.
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Vice Chair Sarnoff. Right, what's --
Commissioner Gort: No, no.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. -- the solution?
Chair Suarez: What are we doing about it?
Mr. Martinez: Yeah. Trying to arrive at a solution, we've had several, several meetings with our
attorneys, the Chief of Police, DOJ (Department of Justice), and all these things, and what I
asked for was allow chart of the process from beginning to end; just receive it. Andl will --
Chair Suarez: Sounds like the --
Mr. Martinez: -- tell you that examining the succession --
Chair Suarez: -- demolition process to me.
Mr. Martinez: -- plan for the king of Spain is a lot easier to understand than the flow chart on
how to go from the --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. View the grip on this. Should l just shut up and be comfortable?
Mr. Martinez: No, no. I'm just saying it's -- we haven't sat idle. We've been sitting --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. No, I get that.
Mr. Martinez: -- in meetings trying --
Vice Chair Sarnoff. I get --
Mr. Martinez: -- to analyze what the problem is so we can fix it. It's -- we're not sitting at our
desks twiddling our thumbs just letting the people leave and taking a long time to hire. We are
taking a long time to hire. But I haven't been able to zoom in on how to condense the process so
that we can hire 36 and maybe lose 5, not 50, and I'm trying to wrap my arms around that, but
it's just the flow chart of when you start to get your approve list and the DOJ and all these other
things just get -- just become obstacle after obstacle after obstacle. And our attorneys had been
helping talking to the DOJ so we could do other things which are unconventional so that we can
go through the list a little bit faster.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So what do I tell the citizens ofMiami, things are okay; we're getting our
arms around this, trying to?
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F)
Vice Chair Sarnoff. So -- well, I'll shut -- I'll let somebody else talk 'cause I don't know. I'm
alarmed. I'm concerned. I see a problem looming, andl thought the problem was a 2013/'14
problem. I'm warning you, Chief. Every chief has faced this and it becomes a budgetary
problem. That budgetary problem becomes you're not the flavor -of -the -month problem. And
when you're not the flavor -of -the -month problem, you become a problem. Don't let this swallow
you.
Chief Orosa: Commissioner, in the police department we do everything we can to speed up the
process. I've added extra people to do background investigations. We received a list of 120
applicants. We processed all those applicants within two months and we're down to 56
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candidates. We've eliminated 60-something, 70 candidates. Out of the 56, we're continuing with
the process. Within the next couple of months, we will probably eliminate a few more, and we
will probably wind up in the next few months with about 15 to 20 candidates that we can hire,
and then we'll start with another 120 and it'll take -- and that is part of --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Chief Orosa: -- the mechanism --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Am I the only one seeing this?
Chief Orosa: -- that is in place that -- it may sound convoluted, but it's what we have right now.
Chair Suarez: Commissioner Gort, and then I want to say a couple things on this too.
Chief Orosa: And --
Commissioner Gort: You know, I've asked that the Administration and each department head to
let me know what problem they're having to fulfill their goals, and if we need to make some
changes, let's make it, let's look at it. Maybe it's their -- the problem that we inherit from before.
Maybe we need to change some of the system, some of the procedures. We need to look at the
procedures and change some of them. And I've asked this for a long time. And agree with you,
it's a big problem. It takes six months to get someone -- although they're credit to police officer,
they already been going through the training, they have everything certified by the State, and it
still takes about four to six months.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, and I just -- you know, I feel for the Chief 'cause I know he's doing
everything -- and Mr. Aguilar, doing everything they can to solve this problem, but it's so -- like
the whole process is so asinine, you know, that it's hard to understand. For example, I went -- I
was honored to be invited to the last graduation and we graduated a bunch of candidates, and
you see the graduation video and you could see that they're very talented and capable
individuals. And then I asked, well, how many of these people are we hiring, you know, people
that we trained, our police academy, and the response was none because we have to go to this
process of a list in one year and then a list in another year and all that to comply with all this --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Do you really believe a person in Washington, DC (District of Columbia),
absolute utter bureaucrat that works for Barack Obama understands and learns this police
department is on the verge of being 100 police officers down of 404 patrol unit? And he says I
have no solutions for you. You're just going to have to go out there with 300 cops.
Chair Suarez: Mr. Vice Chair, not to get too overly political on federal -- on a federal issue, but
you know, it's similar to what happened with our CDBG, you know what I mean. Our CDBG is a
no-brainer andl expected the federal government to open up its arms, solve the problem for us,
you know, and do everything they could as our state Legislature did for us to solve our major
problem. You know, I don't know. I can't tell you with a high degree of confidence -- I don't
think you have a high degree of confidence either in the federal government's ability to --
Vice Chair Sarnoff I -- here's what I need. I need a lawyer, I need a police officer, and need
an HR (Human Resources) person to report to me that they've done everything they can and that,
Commissioner, we're sorry, but inevitably, everybody's going to have to carry a gun, which is I
thought we were trying to get away from, they're going to have to defend themselves because
DOJ has reported to us you have to now dig up your 2001 list because that was a good list. I
just can't imagine government is that asinine. Andl got to tell, this President is veryfriendly to
police officers, is veryfriendly to those type offolks, and l just can't imagine that this is going to
be his policy. And if it is, we need to know that and we simply need to know that 'cause I just
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don't believe it. Andl need three people to report to me in the next -- I'll give you 30 days. Is
that enough, Madam City Attorney, to make calls, write letters, do e-mails?
Ms. Bru: You will have all --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Fly you up to Washington, DC.
Ms. Bru: -- the information from the attorneys.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I know you know the President personally and, you know, talk to him. And I
just can't believe -- I want a report written why we're stuck where we are.
Ms. Bru: Yeah. You know, I don't think that you can blame the Department ofJustice entirely,
but --
Vice Chair Sarnoff I just want to know who to blame. I want to know who to vote for. You
know what --
Ms. Bru: It's just --
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- I'm a voter. I want to know who to vote for.
Ms. Bru: I'll have my attorney who's dealing with Justice report to you and brief you on our
interaction with Justice and how Justice impacts the process, okay.
Commissioner Gort: Judges --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Well --
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute. Hold, hold, hold, hold.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- and that's -- maybe you bring up a good point 'cause I'm getting -- I'm
instinctively reading your lawyerly response. Then maybe I'm right to have that panel because
maybe I need an HR person, okay, and then I need a police officer --
Chair Suarez: A task force.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- that the Chief designates --
Chair Suarez: A task force.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Right. -- to tell -- and I hate this whole expression task force. But you know
what, I want a white paper in the next 30 days that tells me where is the cog in the system; where
is it broken. Where has the snake swallowed too many mice and it's just bottled up? 'Cause I
can't believe the lack -- you know, we talk about some fun stuff up here, significant stuff, andl
don't feel like we're having an intellectual conversation. I just feel like we are.
Chair Suarez: That's it?
Vice Chair Sarnoff In 30 days you guys agree that -- let's give a directive, that they give us a
white paper on why --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I agree.
Vice Chair Sarnoff -- we can't hire police officers?
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Chair Suarez: I would --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And if the canary's dead, then what?
Vice Chair Sarnoff And the canary may be dead in 30 days; you're right.
Chair Suarez: No. I think you're on to something. I don't know if you articulated it to its
conclusion, which is that maybe you should -- 'cause this is obviously -- we're all passionate
about this issue, but you have been the leader on this issue, so maybe you should lead a task
force of the Chief an attorney, whoever, and a person in HR.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So we are appointing you as our fearless leader.
Chair Suarez: Right, so that there's an accountability factor because we all know that two things
need to happen for things to happen in government: Sometimes several departments need to be
in the same room and then there needs to be someone --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Chair Suarez: -- with political power because otherwise, it's not an urgency so --
Chief Orosa: Well --
Vice Chair Sarnoff Chief you're okay with that?
Chief Orosa: Yes, sir. I -- what I would recommend for your own education in our system that
we can hold a meeting between myself, ER (Employee Relations), yourself and Diana Vizcaino,
who's the attorney dealing with DOJ, and you can get first-hand knowledge of the process and
you can determine for yourself where the cog is in the process. I can, you know, guarantee you
that we're doing everything in our power within our police department to try to hire as fast as
possible. We don't control the hiring. We don't control the obstacles that are mandated for us to
put in the way of the hiring process, and we try to do everything we can to hurry up with it.
Vice Chair Sarnoff You know, there may be some very well -intended people in this, but I'm
going to be honest with you -- and this goes back to John Timoney's days. Timoney told me when
you're pass 55 down, it's a critical number. You're at 84. And whether Timoney was right or
wrong, it's a number that always stuck in my head. And Timoney always said we're going to stay
under 50 and he pretty -- he was good at doing that and maybe because times were different; I
don't know, but it's a number that sticks with me. Andl don't want to get to 100 and then I don't
want to get to 150.
Chief Orosa: No, that's -- those are -- like you said, now we're critical. A hundred is basically,
you know, something we shouldn't tolerate. The reason I'm asking or suggesting that you meet
with whoever is -- you know, all three areas and you determine where the cog's at -- because I
can explain my police department's role in the hiring process. In that way, E.R. can explain their
role and the attorney can explain her role with DOJ and what DOJ basically has told her and,
you know, you can decide for yourself.
Vice Chair Sarnoff All right, then I'll have my office set up the meeting and I'll report back to
this Commission in not less than 30 days.
Chair Suarez: I love it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The only that I would like to add to that meeting, is there any way
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that maybe you could ask for a representative from DOJ to also sit in this same meeting because
Chair Suarez: Yep.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Why?
Chair Suarez: That's a good idea.
Ms. Bru: We'll discuss that with you in private. I mean, let -- we don't need to get into that issue
right now. You'll have all the information that you need to have about how much involvement the
Department of Justice continues to have in the City's hiring practice --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Bru: -- and you'll have it from our attorney, but we don't need to have DOJ present at this
meeting.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, no problem. Thank you, Madam City Attorney.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, for allowing this.
Chair Suarez: You're welcome. Thank you. Now we're going to go to -- before going to -- well,
we're going to do the PACE (Property Assessed Clean Energy) item, which was a time certain
item.
Anthony Hatten: I'd just like to, you know, drum in on this. Anthony Hatten, union president,
Local 1907, 4011 West Flagler. We're having the same problem with the 911 operators and
crime scene investigators. I --
Chair Suarez: Well, we --
Mr. Hatten: -- had my lawyer draw up an MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) to
grandfather some crime scene investigators in.
Commissioner Gort: We had to have problem with a lot of departments, so that's something that
-- Commissioner Sarnoff -- Vice Chairman Sarnoff will take care of it.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. I'm sorry; I didn't hear. What --?
Commissioner Gort: That's all right; he'll take care of it.
Mr. Hatten: We're not --
Vice Chair Sarnofff. You know, the last time you did that to me, you put me on a board.
END OF DISTRICT 2
DISTRICT 3
COMMISSIONER FRANK CAROLLO
D3.1 DISCUSSION ITEM
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12-00373
DISCUSSION REGARDING REASON(S) THAT THE CITY'S AUDITED
FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2011
ARE LATE AND HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED.
THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS INCLUDING BOND RATINGS, INTEREST
RATES, DISCLOSURES, ETC.
THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND/OR NEEDED FOR THE CITY'S
FINANCIAL TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD.
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DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: I think the only thing we have left is the audited financial statement discussion by
Commissioner Carollo. There we go. Let's do it, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you. Shouldl begin?
Chair Suarez: Yeah, go ahead.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Gort: Johnny, can you introduce your new acquisition?
Janice Larned (Assistant City Manager/Chief Financial Officer): I'm sorry?
Commissioner Gort: Would you introduce your new acquisition?
Ms. Larned: Introduce -- oh, the new director of the Finance, yes, sir. Would you like --?
Chair Suarez: Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. I haven't met him.
Ms. Larned: -- for me to do that at this time?
Chair Suarez: Yes, please do.
Commissioner Gort: Yes, yes.
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir. This is our new director of Finance, Stephen --
Chair Suarez: Let's take a look at him. Let's get a look at him. Very good, very good, very good.
Let's go.
Ms. Larned: Okay.
Chair Suarez: Good stuff.
Commissioner Gort: Welcome.
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Chair Suarez: He's got a good -- I could tell he's got a good smile. I like that. That's a good
start. You know, good sense of humor. You got to have it in this place.
Ms. Larned: He was --
Vice Chair Sarnoff I was going to say --
Ms. Larned: -- 25 years in retail, so I think at least I'm going to take styling tips from him, but
we'll see how that goes.
Commissioner Carollo: Thankyou, ma'am. And by the way, welcome.
Stephen Petty (Director, Finance): Thankyou.
Commissioner Carollo: Welcome to the City ofMiami. It's good to see that our financial team is
growing and, you know, we're getting more experience here in the City so --
Mr. Petty: Glad to be here. Thankyou.
Commissioner Carollo: -- welcome again. The reason I brought this item is because when I first
heard about this, I asked to meet with Danny and then the CFO (Chief Financial Officer), and
actually the CFO and various people already had a meeting scheduled with me. And when I
heard that the audited financial statements were not going to be issued on time, it was
worrisome. And what really was alarming, when I heard the rest of the news with regards to not
even knowing when we might be able to issue. Now, I know a lot of people may not understand
why I'm so alarmed. You saw -- you actually saw it firsthand today, you know. When there's talk
about, you know, entities that will be defunct or will have to close down, when you're talking
about entities that need badly revenues, first thing said was let me see your audited financial
statements. Unfortunately, any investor -- and that's usually what happens, especially business
people, investors, professionally oriented people, they ask for financials. It's not just, well, we're
going to run out of money. Okay. Well, you know what? In your audit financial statements, you
should have a going concern and there's -- you know, there's ways to find out that information,
especially before you invest, like what would happen with bond holders and anyone that would
seek to see the financial statement of the City or invest in our City. When we cannot issue our
financial statements on time, that's a red flag. Now what's extremely alarming is when I hear
from our CFO -- and as Commissioner Spence -Jones mentioned, you know, this is why we have
our professionals. When our CFO tells us that she is not sure or that it could be three -- more
than six months from when our financial statements can be issued and the reasons for it, that's
extremely alarming. I think my questions are pretty straightforward. You know, I would have
Ms. Larned, our CFO, address them and go from there. I know there may be some new
information that you may have. I know you spend more time reviewing this, but last we spoke
there was no changes and, again, it's something we have to address. Andl think -- you know, at
least everybody knows from my point of view, financially, I think, you know, it's extremely
important. It seems like everything is based around our finances, our budgets, and some of the
news that you gave is of great concern.
Ms. Larned: Thank you, Mr. Chair --
Chair Suarez: Please.
Ms. Larned: -- and Commissioner Carollo. Janice Larned, Assistant City Manager, Chief
Financial Officer. Last week we sent out a memorandum indicating what had happened with the
delay in the CAFR (Comprehensive Annual Financial Report) and that we would immediately
initiate a review of the CAFR. I have three findings I would like to report and then there was five
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causal factors that I think would be beneficial to give a context as well. So the first initial
assessment has been completed. The first item was the composition and compilation schedules,
and the tables were still a work in progress. There had not been an evaluation of vetting or a
validation of the information. The second piece was the form in content within the CAFR.
There's several sections that require being updated and refreshed. Some of that information is
available within the Department. Some of the information is available within the organization,
the County, and at the state level. The most extent, that information has not yet been updated or
refreshed. The third item, third thing that we found was -- and let me stop and say that the new
director of Finance and myself were the ones that were conducting this review. It was his second
day on the job, so he has had a baptismal by fire, ifI might add that.
Commissioner Carollo: Welcome to Miami.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, really.
Ms. Larned: The third item that we found was because this is a step process, those items that
had not yet been completed were, in fact, starting to back up the other items that needed to be
completed to totally compile the financial statement. And I mentioned that there were five causal
factors. The first was that there was a new accounting standard that needed to be implemented.
Commissioner Carollo: GASB (Government Accounting Standard Board) 54?
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir. And was far more significant than what had been initially reviewed and
opined on within the Department. The second was that it's the first year of a different auditing
firm in their engagement, so we had a new auditing firm. Generally speaking, that is going to
cause more work, more questions, as each party gets to know each other and what the particular
nuances are.
Commissioner Carollo: And I'm not going to interrupt you --
Ms. Larned: No.
Commissioner Carollo: -- every time, but I want to say that's part of the fresh set of eyes, you
know, and fresh set of eyes looking at different things and they're asking different questions and
so forth.
Chair Suarez: You mean on our internal side or on the audit -- the external auditor's?
Commissioner Carollo: No, external auditors.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Internal auditor.
Commissioner Carollo: It's fresh set of eyes --
Chair Suarez: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Commissioner Carollo: -- that are looking at it, and that's usually why all municipalities every
"X" number of years, you know, have new auditors. Now, with that said, Ms. Larned, I think it's
important to also, you know, state and ask this question. Do you feel because they are new
auditors coming in that it was more our part or their part? In other words, when they request
certain information is it because we haven't provided that information or is it because of
something from their part? And as -- you understand my question, correct?
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Ms. Larned: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir. First let me say that after we completed our assessment, we met -- or we
actually had one of the auditors in the office while we conducted a teleconference call with the
two partners. They were not able to come into Miami, but nonetheless, we had the conversation.
It was at that point we exchanged information and agreed that the list that was provided by the
audit team in December would be provided to us along with subsequent requests that they had
made. In that conversation it was determined that the items from the December list still had not
been completed and that the subsequent items that were in -- that was requested was a result of
some of the information that was provided and that they wish to go a bit deeper. And again, we
have not had a complete briefing with them as to all that they have found. Now intervening with
all of this activity that occurred in March, there was an Audit Advisory Committee, and it was at
that time that the external auditor, the independent auditor provided a -- provided their first
initial workbook and their information as how the audit was going and at what percentage point
they were as far as completion. So we didn't find out until about the middle of March some of
the, I would say, broader and deeper information request that they had been asking. I had been
kept apprised as to -- the information that was being requested seemed to be abnormally high
and that was from our staff. I based that on was this first year audit or is this because of items
that perhaps we hadn't completed as we should have, and the response was, again, we think
we're dealing with auditors that may not be as experienced in the field as we had hoped they
would be. So to answer your question very directly, I think it's on -- it is on both sides. Is it more
so on the City side? Yes, than their side. So with -- again, I think the implementation of GASB
54 -- andl don't mean to be too technical with that answer, but it is a statement that has to be
implemented and in according [sic] to the County rules in order to be issued an unqualified
opinion. When we first started looking at that statement, it was when there was a different
director ofFinance, a different Chief Financial Officer, and a different Chief Accountant. That
is the second contributing factor that we found was the turnover and that we still have ripple
effects, if you will, of those vacancies. I will stop now and say that the City has taken steps, the
Administration specifically, in hiring the new director ofFinance and the CFO, which I
personally find to be a very wise decision on your part, and it's good to be here as well.
Commissioner Gort: It was a good decision.
Ms. Larned: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) penalty box (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Ms. Larned: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Yeah, yeah, same here.
Ms. Larned: The third factor, I think, that gifts lost in all of the other activity is that, if we recall,
we had two additional external examinations that we received in December, one being from the
Securities Exchange Commission and a second being from the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
Most of the information that they require or that we have to be in a position to reproduce is at
out of the Finance Department. That took priority. Even though we had initiated the audit, we
had started some of the field work, it was in the very, very early stages and, consequently, we
had to shift resources. We were already down resources and anybody that was new was not as
familiar with the City. The -- again, I just mentioned the continuing effects of the vacancies that
we've had. And then in February, we had an upgrade to the Oracle ARP (Accounts Receivables
Property) system. There were some issues there. It delayed this year's February month -end
close. Once again, the resources are having to be taken off of one thing and put on another. So
take all of this in combination, what we found was not -- we found no surprises. First of all, I
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need to provide that comfort level, if you will. What we did find was information that needs to be
completed, and we need to do so in a reasonable, in a measured way so that the information we
do provide to the auditors is one that can be accurate and be relied upon, as you had said
Commissioner, because we have individuals and we have investors out there that use that
information to make decisions. So having said that, I think your next question was what was the
impact, what was the financial market's reaction to this? In fact, let me read it -- let me be very
clear -- the financial implications, including the bond ratings, interest rates, and disclosures. I'm
pleased to say that at this point the March 31 was a self-imposed date. We have not gone beyond
any other dates. However, as you indicated, we need to know when we're going to get out the
CAFR and what is fast -approaching us. The first item that we have been able to identify is that
in our bank loan, there is some language that indicates that should we not be able to provide the
audited financial statements, then they may send us a letter to ask us to provide further
assurances. That would not occur until April 27. I have already initiated a phone call, andl
have a meeting with the bank next Tuesday to provide them those further assurances. It is our
intent to get in front of this. As far as the credit rating agencies, if you recall -- andl might
expand that a bit. It wasn't just the credit agencies, but we put out a notice in the Electronic
Municipal Market Access, which is the electronic system that you put forth all of your disclosure
information and any kind of notices that you want into the public market. We did that as soon as
we knew that we were -- that we had missed the deadline, and we continued to update EiV/MA
(Electronic Municipal Market Access) as the information becomes available. EMI4 is acronym
is for Electronic Municipal Market Access. We will continue to do so as we feel that it is
appropriate; that when we know information, that we provide that information into the market.
The credit rating agencies read that information. We have not received any additional inquiries
from anybody at this point. And in an abundance of caution, I do not wish to send any further
messages, so I do not wish to speculate what anybody would think the activity would be. So from
this point, we're taking it one step at a time. And let me go back and say the Wells Fargo bank
loan is the item that we are getting in front of and that meeting will take place next Tuesday.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Go ahead. Sorry.
Ms. Larned: The third item was the resources available and that --
Commissioner Carollo: I'm sorry.
Ms. Larned: Oh, yes, please.
Commissioner Carollo: Going back as far as disclosures --
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: -- are there any disclosures -- as you see disclosures, are any disclosures
that we had to do by a certain time?
Ms. Larned: Yes, June 30. We have a June -- excuse me one moment. June 1 and June 30,
correct?
Pete Chircut (Treasurer, Finance): Pete Chircut, Treasurer. The first one after the loan would
be May 30, and then one more bond issue would be June 1 and then 15 of the other bond issue
outstanding would be June 30.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Carollo: And hold on. May 30, June 1.
Chair Suarez: June 1 and June 30 for 15 others.
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Commissioner Carollo: And these disclosures are -- can you elaborate on these disclosures?
Mr. Chircut: It's in the -- it's a disclosure requirement. There is -- if the financial is not finished
by that time, then we just have the informant inform EMIMA that we will be late, but there is no
penalty in that effect.
Commissioner Carollo: Except the June 30. If we don't have financials by June 30 --
Mr. Chircut: There is no penalty. It is a disclosure if we inform them by EMMA, there is no
penalty.
Commissioner Carollo: And what about state law? If we don't have our financials by June 30
-- 2
Mr. Chircut: We still have -- if we inform them we will be late, Commissioner, there will be no
penalty. We issue our financial statement in 2007 July 22.
Commissioner Carollo: And there was no penalty?
Mr. Chircut: And there was no penalty.
Commissioner Carollo: Okay. When will the financials be issued?
Ms. Larned: I'm going to hesitate for the moment because I want to go back to the conversation
with E&Y (Ernst & Young). What we agreed to at that point in time was if they gave us what was
still outstanding and if we supplied that within what we felt was going to be a reasonable and
realistic time frame, then once we provided that information to the auditors, they could turn
around and give us our opinion letter within two weeks. So we have been diligently and carefully
making certain that what we have outstanding and what we still need to complete as far as the
CAFR, we believe, to the best of our professional opinion, that we can have the CAFR out by
June 15. I say this with one caveat. Should we begin to approach anything that we think or that
we sense is going to be a qualified audit, we will backup and make certain that if there's any
additional information that the auditors need, then we will take that time and make certain that
they are getting the information that they require.
Commissioner Carollo: With that said, has there been any indications from E&Y that we may
receive a qualified audit?
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir, there was. The night before the Audit Advisory Committee --
Chair Suarez: Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but they have made that -- to answer your
question, they have made that --
Ms. Larned: They -- I --
Chair Suarez: Right.
Ms. Larned: -- received a phone call.
Chair Suarez: Right.
Ms. Larned: And the phone call basically was the night before we were to appear before the
Audit Advisory Committee. I was informed that there might be two situations that would in fact
cause a qualified opinion. The context of those remarks were made as it relates to the City's
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ability to implement this accounting standard change, the GASB 54. Now, you heard earlier
today and read in your memorandum from the Manager some of the impacts that occurred as it
relates to the year-end close and it has to do with the special revenue funds and the
recharacterizing of fund balance so that under GASB 54, some of the way in which we presented
the information is going to be different when you compare 2010 to 2011. Again -- and it was a
specific comment that the auditors have even given to us the very next day in our booklets from
the auditors that basically says that the City does not have a process in place to analyze and
document significant accounting matters using authoritative guidance. Now that's pretty
technical. But let it just be said that the absence of the director of Finance and not having a
specific focus from an authoritative guidance perspective, when left alone, then the accountants
are going to go through what is -- what they already know to be the standard. That is why you
have to have reviews and collegial discussions about accounting theory, how to implement a new
rule, knowing that in fact there are going to be differences of opinion, but you have to have those
discussions. Without those bodies present, there's no guidance, there's no way in which to know
how to do so. So it did not surprise me once I had, myself, looked and assessed what information
had been pulled together, but at the time -- and that was the middle of March -- the auditors had
made the comment that they did not agree with us and it was serious enough that it could cause a
qualified opinion. I have not heard that since and we have had those conversations with them
and we have the begun to make those changes, which is why you saw different numbers from the
director ofManagement and Budget than what he had been telling you. All of this occurred
around a two -week period. It was at that point that -- and in my mind, I was calculating the
hours, the days, the weeks that were going to be necessary to complete the audit and, therefore,
that's why my recommendation was that we don't go forward, as our fiduciary responsibility is, to
put into the market that information which is reliable, not necessarily that it's timely, even
though that absolutely is a goal. So that --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Larned: -- completes my update.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Follow up?
Commissioner Carollo: Yes, follow up. Resources.
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Do you have adequate resources? Do you need additional resources?
How can we --? And by the way, you know, as far as that June 30 deadline, I -- you know, I
spoke to a few, you know, colleagues of mine and, you know, we've never really seen, you know,
municipalities passing that June 30 deadline. I mean, I'm -- you're saying it happened in 2007.
I'm amazed that it didn't get, you know, a lot more media coverage, I guess, or it wasn't a bigger
deal. But, you know, June 30 is pretty much almost, you know, what, nine months afterwards,
almost a year. So, I mean, realistically, how valuable does that information become to the
investors. It gets to a point where, you know, you're talking a year later is when --
Chair Suarez: That's a good point.
Commissioner Carollo: -- you know. But anyways, as far as resources, do you -- your financial
team can --
Ms. Larned: Again -- and Steve --
Chair Suarez: That's a good point.
Ms. Larned: -- constantly reminds me "This is day nine, Janice ", andl can remember doing the
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same thing. So in fairness to him, he has continued on with the review of the actual document
and the information has been -- that is in the process of being compiled. We clearly determined
that we needed an objective, and our objective is to remove and correct the conditions that are
affecting the responsibility for both the accuracy of the data and the completeness and fairness of
the presentation. We believe that in doing so, we have approximately six steps that we would like
to undertake, andl have already begun having conversations with our procurement director, as
well as our Budget director. I have initiated phone calls to the FGOA -- the FGFOA (Florida
Government Finance Officers Association).
Commissioner Carollo: Good.
Ms. Larned: I've even gone so far as to contact cities that have been in similar situations to just
get names at this point.
Commissioner Carollo: Good.
Ms. Larned: So step one is that we need to allocate internal and external resources to complete
this CAFR by the June 15 date, so we will need external resources as well. The way we think we
will manage that is we will have the external resources doing, if you will, the crunch work but
also having that experience behind them at this point of understanding what GASB 54
implications are. We want to make sure that we're in conformance with whatever those
requirements are. The second step is to allocate and acquire the necessary resources to respond
to external examinations by either the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) or the IRS
without disruption to the internal processes. Step three, we want to acquire, reorganize, and
train resources for the best management practices and efficiency in that internal process. The
fourth step is that we want to strengthen the systems and the operational input parameters, i.e.
the Oracle ERP, and we want to reinforce training those individuals that have to use the system.
Step five, we want to implement the approved system integration with all the financial system
components and, again, another reinforcement with training. And the second one is to develop
the capability to perform special project financial analyses without impairment to the internal
process functions. In other words, we can't allow those distractions. We can't allow the
reprioritization. So the first focus we're going to take in this new review, if you will, is to finish
the current or the fiscal year 2011 CAFR. But at the same time, we have six months in this year
already that we need to begin that process --
Commissioner Carollo: Exactly.
Ms. Larned: -- hence, two teams. I do not have a cost estimate for you at this time. We are
continuing to review what resources might be available, how quickly they can be available, and
what that impact will be from a financial perspective.
Commissioner Carollo: By the way, thank you and thank you for all your work. Can you please
keep us updated as far as resources? First of all, how -- you know, how it's going, how it's
continuing to -- the process go, especially with, you know, E&Y. Keep us updated. Maybe, you
know -- I don't want to speak for any Commissioner, but at least, you know, prior to every
Commission meeting, I would like to get -- you know, have some type of update. Andl know --
andl say prior to every Commission meeting 'cause I know then every two weeks. At the very
latest, every two weeks --
Chair Suarez: You'll have something.
Commissioner Carollo: -- I'll have some type of update 'cause I think this is extremely important
andl think, realistically, that it (UNINTELLIGIBLE) impact our bond ratings, which that'll be
our interest rates and all that. Also keep us up-to-date with regards to the resources. You know,
I think this is more than one area that we need to, you know, put the resources needed to make
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sure that it doesn't occur again. You know, unfortunately, I really do think -- andl think you've
stated it in different words, but I think this is a ramification of not having a CFO, not having a
Finance director, and it's one of the reasons that before -- I guess I was kind of loud about it and
I guess I was kind of you know -- I voiced the concern quite loud and constantly and -- but we're
seeing the ramification of that now andl think we need to -- you know, I think-- you know, I'm
so glad that we now have a CFO, that we have a Finance director. Our auditor general was
appointed today. And, you know, we're going to have financial team in order in order for this
not to happen again. And, hopefully, you know, we could limit any, you know, financial
implications that being late with this CAFR could have. I definitely would want to try -- andl
know you mentioned the June 15 time frame. I definitely want to do this before June 30. You
know, June 30 is when we officially do have to report to the state and that's where, you know,
again, if we pass that deadline, you know -- I know Mr. Chircut said that there'll be no penalties,
but I'm not so sure so -- and at the very least, you know, I think we need it for our credit ratings
not to go down to, you know, junk bonds andl don't want to say that but anyways. So I truly
appreciate all your work.
Ms. Larned: Certainly.
Commissioner Carollo: I really do.
Ms. Larned: Certainly. I would add that the markets have significantly changed since 2008 and
the attention given to municipal bonds has been heightened. In fact, I spent the two prior years
before joining the City doing that very thing and particularly as it relates to disclosure
requirements and making certain that people that had not been paying attention before, all of a
sudden were paying attention and that the --
Chair Suarez: That's what happens when people lose money.
Ms. Larned: Well, that's a good point. Yes, that would bring that sort of thing to your attention.
So it is almost a new era for all of us, which I think is opportunity, andl think that we have to
keep our eyes on the horizon but we have to stay focused on the work that needs to be done but
knowing that there is opportunity out there beyond. I'm happy to answer any other questions --
Chair Suarez: Great.
Ms. Larned: -- if -- should there --
Chair Suarez: Yeah, I have --
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Go ahead, Commissioner, and then I'll -- I just have one quick statement.
Commissioner Gort: No. I don't believe that the City has ever default on any interest payment
or any principal payment on their bonds. Am I correct? Okay.
Ms. Larned: That is correct.
Commissioner Gort: All right.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: The other thing is that the monthly statement that were provided, I think, to
us is very important because one of the reasons is by looking at the monthly statements, we can
analyze if the different departments comply with their budget or if they going above their
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budgets; or if any change takes place or any deviation from the budget, we can take care of that
matter right away instead of at the end of the year.
Ms. Larned: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Gort: So as soon as we can get that back again -- andl really appreciate it. And
welcome you, sir. You come into a hot potato, but after you work here, you can work anywhere.
Chair Suarez: That's true. That's definitely true. I just want to add that -- a couple things. One
is when we briefed, it was a very brief tense briefing and there was a little bit of a
the -sky -is -falling kind of attitude at that meeting, and the reason why I say this is because -- you
know, I kind of want to apologize to Commissioner Carollo who called for a special meeting but
when you -- when we briefed, the information was so inconsistent with what I had been told up to
that point that rather than do something premature -- you got -- you guys committed at that point
that you would take about a week to get back to me and you did and I commend you for that.
You really -- you guys really put this thing together. And, thankfully, I think it's fair to say on the
record that the sky is not falling so --
Ms. Larned: Correct.
Chair Suarez: Okay. So -- but there -- that was a tense, you know -- yeah, that was a tense
briefing, but that's why -- 'cause we can't talk about it before, so we got to talk about it now.
That's the reason why I thought it was better to, you know, from my perspective, do it today
because had we done it on -- I think it was Monday or whatever, it would have been a disaster. I
mean, that's my humble opinion. The other thing want to do is I really want to commend the
City Manager. He has demonstrated on not just this but on a number of different issues
tremendous amount of leadership, taking responsibility, and putting some difficult issues on his
own shoulders and saying, look, I'm going work -- and finding workable solutions, which is
always hard. So you know, you've been -- you've had some time here where you've been under a
lot of intense scrutiny andl think it's important when -- you know, to say that you've really -- at
least in the last few weeks you've been really not -- just in the last few weeks, but particularly in
the last few weeks you've been exceptional.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Need to get back on that diet.
Chair Suarez: Okay. Thank you. Somebody else?
Commissioner Gort: The one thing I'd like to add is I think it's -- I state this all the time. It's
team work. I think whenever you have your meetings with your directors, department directors,
you should include the Law Department also and all work as a team. And that's the only way
we're going to get things done. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
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DISTRICT 4
CHAIRMAN FRANCIS SUAREZ
D4.1 DISCUSSION ITEM
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DISCUSSION REGARDING ELECTRONIC PAYMENT OPTION FOR CITY
OF MIAMI LICENSES & PERMITS.
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DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: (INAUDIBLE) that one, so just in case anybody's wondering why we're starting a
little early, it's actually 2 in my electronic clock here in front of me. Since we don't have a
quorum, I want to begin with my discussion item on electronic payments for licenses and permits.
Is anyone from the Administration able to address that? Ma'am, you're recognized for the
record. Please state your name and address.
Cynthia Torres: Good afternoon. I'm Cindy Torres, interim director of Information Technology
Department. I'm here to apprise you of an update of a web payment capability for both iBuild
CU/BTR (Certificate of Use/Business Tax Receipt), as well as other permitting processes across
the City. The Information Technology Department recently released the full iBuild application
on March 16. On June 8 we will be releasing the full web version, which will be available
outside of the City's Internet system allowing users to log on and pay. In addition, on April 25
the CU/BTR application will be made available online.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. Yeah. I mean, this is something that obviously we've been working on
and I've been trying to push as hard as possible because, you know, the City ofMiami is not
really user-friendly and, you know, by contrast, other governments, like the state ofFlorida, the
federal government, make it very easy for you to basically do business.
Ms. Torres: Correct.
Chair Suarez: In the state ofFlorida you can file a corporation online $70 and you can get an
IRS (Internal Revenue Service) tax ID (Identification) for free online instantly. So for whatever
reason, at the local level we haven't really caught on to that Internet efficiency, andl think it
behoove us to do it not only for our residents who would be better served, but also for the City
because one of the big issues that we have -- I can't tell you how many calls I've gotten in my
office in the years that -- you know, in the couple years I've been elected of people who just can't
get a CU, you know, or don't know how to get a CU, and it should really be a very easy process.
They should be able to go online and they should be able to fill out the application, pay the
money, and they should have a preemptive approval of the CU and then subject to inspections.
What we do now is we don't give the CU until after the inspections. Well, the inspections can
take a month, two months, three months, you know, depending on the circumstances. And most
of the time it's a business that they're either not changing the use or it's a use that's very similar.
You know, it's an office so it's being used as an accountant office or as a, you know, law firm
office. So you know, I just -- I think this is something that we have to do immediately. Thank you
for, you know, continuing to work on this to get it done as quickly as possible and, you know, I
look forward to seeing it on June 8. Hopefully it's user-friendly and, you know, it'll be a neat
thing for this Administration and Commission to unroll -- to roll out to the public so.
Ms. Torres: Absolutely. We're driving it very hard.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Torres: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: I had one Commissioner. I lost him though.
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NON AGENDA ITEMS
DISCUSSION ITEM
CHAIR SUAREZ ACKNOWLEDGED THE PASSING OF AUXILIARY
BISHOP AGUSTIN ROMAN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE, HONORING
HIM AS A PILLAR IN THE CUBAN EXILE COMMUNITY AND
RECOGNIZING HIS DEDICATION TO THE CAUSE OF A FREE CUBA.
DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: Before beginning the presentations and proclamations, I'd like to have a moment
of silence for Archbishop Roman, Augustine Roman, who passed away last night. He was a
pillar in the Cuban community in the cause -- the causes that Cuban, Christians, and Catholics
hold near and dear to their heart, which is to have a free Cuba. So if you would all just observe
a moment of silence, please.
A moment of silence.
Chair Suarez: Thank you. And now I will recognize Mayor Regalado for a proclamation.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I also like to join you and the
members of the City Commission in expressing sorrow -- of all communities -- Monsignor
Roman. Bishop Emeritus Roman was a man for all communities. And those of us who work in
the media in the '80s saw him when he was the peacemaker when the Mariel refugees rioted in
Atlanta and Arkansas. Andl think he serves all communities and all religions, and he was the
moral compass of the Cuban community and, of course, the exile community and all the
communities, so our condolences to the people ofMiami for the passing of Monsignor Augustine
Roman.
DISCUSSION ITEM
MAYOR REGALADO PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO THE CITY
COMMISSION REGARDING THE CITY'S SUCCESS AT THE STATE
LEGISLATIVE SESSION, FURTHER RECOGNIZING THE WORK OF
HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER, CARLOS LOPEZ CANTERA, AND THE
CONTRIBUTION OF CITY STAFF, KIRK MENENDEZ AND KIRA
GROSSMAN TO THIS ENDEAVOR.
DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: Mr. Mayor, would you like to be recognized on an item?
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. As you know,
the state Legislature has ended the session, and the City ofMiami was very lucky this year
because we had important issues before the Legislature and one of them was of crucial urgency
to the City ofMiami. As you all know, the Miami -Dade County appraiser's office decided that
the garages built by the City in the Marlins stadium complex had to be taxed by the County. The
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City presented some documents, but it was in doubt whether or not that will solve the problem.
However, legislators that represent the City ofMiami and Miami -Dade County came to the table
and fought throughout the process and made it possible that a law was passed that the City will
be exempt from taxes. This was a saving to the people ofMiami. It wasn't about the
Commission, the Mayor, the Administration. The people ofMiami were the one that were stuck
with the bill. And there was a person that guided that bill throughout all the session in the
House, in the Senate. This were several participants, but if we have to single out one person, it
has to be our state representative for the City ofMiami, Carlos Lopez-Cantera, and Carlos is
here and we'd like to --
(Applause)
Chair Suarez: Mr. Mayor, ifI may -- go ahead. IfI may, I spoke with the majority leader a
multitude of different times throughout this legislative session. I was a little worried last year
when we decided, for fiscal reasons, to eliminate our lobbying budget and we took a risk, but we
were very fortunate that we had a champion in Tallahassee, someone who had risen up the ranks
and gained prominence in our state Legislature through his leadership capabilities, and had it
not been for him -- this is not -- that was not the only issue. The Marlins garage tax thing. There
were several issues that had millions and millions of dollars of impact, financial impact for the
City ofMiami that the majority leader, without his leadership and without his push, I'm fairly
certain would not have happened. So I want to recognize him myself andl also want to just take
a brief moment to recognize two other individuals who work for the City, Ms. Kara (phonetic)
Grossman, from the City attorney's office at the time, and Kirk Menendez. I forgot Kirk's name.
Kirk Menendez, who both -- in Kirk -- and in Kirk's case, he was the MSEA (Miami Sports &
Exhibition Authority) director at the same time so he had to work two jobs and be away on many
days, so I want to commend both of them and thank them for their unyielding effort of this
legislative session. Mr. Speaker.
Carlos Lopez-Cantera: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mayor. It's an honor to be here today on
behalf of the entire delegation that worked so hard on this measure. We -- there -- I believe
there's a second issue that was very important to the City ofMiami and that was the freedom of
the local option fuel tax. We were able to pass that legislation as well. And you were right, Mr.
Chairman, you needed to recognize your team here. Kara (phonetic) Grossman was the one that
came up with the original language for the parking garages, and it was Kirk Menendez who was
there day in and day out talking with me and helping me shepherd this through. So it was
unfortunate that the City had to go to the Legislature for relieffrom this. The property appraiser
could have made this decision on his own; he chose not to. He chose to tax the City ofMiami.
We were happy and proud and lucky to be able to fix this for the City ofMiami and we look
forward to the savings that it represents to the City in the future.
Chair Suarez: I have a feeling that we'll rectifi, that situation soon.
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: Maybe.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Yes. Mr. Vice Chair, you're recognized.
Vice Chair Sarnoff I just want to recognize the majority leader for two other reasons. He's the
person that championed the Playhouse reverter language and without him there would be no
threat to the -- I was going to use felonious, but that wouldn't be fair -- errant board of directors
that they would just continue to allow that to sit and because of our -- I think the majority leader,
right? That's the appropriate --
Chair Suarez: Yes.
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Vice Chair Sarnoft -- title he owns --?
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: For now.
Vice Chair Sarnoft Because of our majority leader, he actually wrote the language. He had a
little assist from me, a very little assist, and it's now part of law. The other thing I'd like to
acknowledge him for is something thatl think will never go down in history, but we were on the
verge of losing all of our mental health money and that would have had a huge impact in the
downtown. Andl know that Mr. Fuentes -- I think is here -- he helped equally in the lobbying
efforts, but it was the -- it was, again, the majority leader and through his leadership that said
don't worry; these cuts are not going to be as draconian as you might anticipate. And any cut in
mental health means services -- and folks down in the homeless situation in the downtown, as
you know, 367 durable, long-term, chronic homeless people would have had significant cut in
services and it would have affected the downtown ofMiami and do suggest to you that would
be the heartbeat. And lastly, if you wouldn't mind, would like to acknowledge him for correcting
a wrong -- none of you were up here, except for me and now the Mayor -- with regard to the
Marlins. Andl can assure you, we had every assurance from the County that the garages would
not be taxed, every assurance. The only part of the garage that would be taxed was the retail
section. Andl can tell you, all of my notes indicate who was there, who was present. For the
County to do an about face on that is not only misrepresentation abridging upon a fraud, but it
was just absolutely plain wrong to tax the citizens ofMiami. And what this man has done is
pretty much single-handedly righted a huge wrong from a part of our government that doesn't
really care what its words mean, so I want to thank the majority leader for that.
Chair Suarez: Anyone else?
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: Thank you. IfI may, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Suarez: Sure, yes.
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: I just want to say my legislative career is coming to an end. Because of
term limits, this will be the last legislative session that serve in the Florida House, and it has
been an honor and a privilege to represent the residents of District 113, which is predominantly
the City ofMiami, including City Hall, which resides in the district that represent. It's been an
honor and a privilege to serve them, to work alongside all of you for the past eight years. Well,
some of you for less, but alongside the City ofMiami for the past eight years. I've really enjoyed
it and l just want to say thank you to you.
Chair Suarez: Andl would just conclude by saying know that Senator Rubio, when he was
Speaker of the House, had a very successful legislative session and he went on to be a United
States senator. I would put this legislative session up against that one andl would compare it
favorably. So I think your work was of a caliber and your effort was relentless and you put your
neck on the line. I mean, at the end of the day, what happens sometimes in Tallahassee and in
the City and in other places is that, you know, public officials are afraid to put themselves, you
know, their reputation on the line, to put their political capital behind, an issue that's important,
and you had no fear. And so we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for that.
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: Thank you, Mr. Chairman --
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Lopez-Cantera: Commissioners, Mayor.
(Applause)
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DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING A PRESS CONFERENCE
SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 12, 2012, TO COMMEMORATE THE ADDITION
OF TWO NEW FIRE TRUCKS TO THE CITY FLEET PURCHASED WITH
FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG)
DOLLARS.
DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: Now the Mayor has asked the Commission to break for a press conference that he
wants to hold outside. We will break, I'll say -- I was going to say till 11: 45 but that'll only give
us 15 minutes to work between 11: 45 --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We should just keep going.
Chair Suarez: -- so maybe we should just break until after lunch.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Because we don't know how long this is going to take, right?
Chair Suarez: You know what --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are they ready to go?
Chair Suarez: -- let's break till 11: 45. Let's come back and see if we can, you know, do some
resos.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Do we know what the press conference is about? Because I have
no --
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Yes, Commissioner. It's -- I mean, you had the press release. It's about
two new fire trucks that were bought with --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mayor Regalado: -- CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) money.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mayor Regalado: And they're outside.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Are they green?
Commissioner Gort: What was the --?
Mayor Regalado: Huh?
Commissioner Gort: I read it but I forgot. What was it?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Commissioners -- Commissioner Suarez, you did say we were --
we're just -- we're going to go ahead and breaking, right, and come back at 2?
Commissioner Gort: Eleven forty-five
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, we come back at 11: 45 or 2?
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Chair Suarez: Eleven forty-five in terms of (UNINTET,T IGIBT,F).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right, I leave at 11: 45, so if there's anything -- some of these
items I want to be here for 'cause I told you I had to leave at 11: 45.
Chair Suarez: All right, we're going to break until 2 p.m.
DISCUSSION ITEM
CHAIR SUAREZ ACKNOWLEDGED ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY,
VICTORIA MENDEZ'S BIRTHDAY AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE IN
CHAMBERS SANG "HAPPY BIRTHDAY".
DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: Can I do it, Madam Attorney, or do you need a few seconds? Do you need a few
seconds or do you want me to do it right now? Okay. Since we're waiting for a quorum, I'd like
to take this opportunity to salute a friend a colleague, someone who works in the City ofMiami
on her birthday, Victoria Mendez. Would you please come up and say a few words, since we
don't have a quorum so -- we need to kill some time.
(Applause)
Victoria Mendez (Assistant City Attorney): Thank you. There's no other place I'd rather be on
my birthday than here at City Hall, City Commission day. Thank you very much.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
NA.5 RESOLUTION
12-00421
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Community ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
Development AMENDMENT SIX TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2005 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ("CDBG") DISASTER RELIEF INITIATIVE
ROUND I CONTRACT BETWEEN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF
MIAMI, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, EXTENDING THE
CONTRACT FROM DECEMBER 30, 2011 TO JULY 31, 2012, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CDBG FUNDS RECEIVED UNDER
THE MILITARY CONSTRUCTION APPROPRIATIONS AND EMERGENCY
HURRICANE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS
DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM, FROM THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $470,416, FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE TOWN PARK
VILLAGE I PROJECT THAT SUFFERED HURRICANE DAMAGE.
12-00421-Agenda Item Summary Form.pdf
12-00421-Legislation. pdf
File 12-00421 Exhibit.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: And then it the other two items, the one is in reference to Charter
amendment for the --
Commissioner Carollo: Audited financial statements.
Chair Suarez: No. There's a --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No.
Chair Suarez: -- Charter amendment on the elections.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right, which is the --
Chair Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- longer discussion as well, right?
Chair Suarez: Could be, yeah. Hope not.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right, 'cause I have -- okay.
Alfredo Duran (Deputy Director, Community Development): Thank you, Commissioners.
Chair Suarez: Go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Here you go.
Chair Suarez: I don't know what that meant.
Mr. Duran: No, I got it.
Chair Suarez: I don't know what that meant by the way.
Mr. Duran: Thank you. Alfredo Duran, deputy director with the Department of Community
Development. These two items, these are two resolutions that -- first, to give you a little bit of
background on it. The City ofMiami and Miami -Dade County are parties to two contracts under
the Disaster Relief program. These are federal funds to assist projects that were affected by the
2005 hurricane season. Phase one -- or DRI (Development of Regional Impact) 1 and DRI-2, in
the amounts of $2 million and 2.7 and some change, respectively, are funds that are comingfrom
the federal government. They're comingfrom HUD (Department of Housing and Urban
Development) to the State of Florida to the County and then to us. The projects that are being
considered are -- or that had been considered under these funding sources are projects that came
through an RFP (Request for Proposals) and they're affordable housing projects that suffered
these damages from this hurricane season. During the first phase of the project, through an RFP
process, Town Park Village 1, is a community of 147 affordable housing units in Overtown, came
in with a number of concerns, a number of needs that -- more so that the first phase was able to
provide for, so we decided that had we would assist them in the replacement of all their windows.
They're getting ready for their 40-year recertification when -- and these are very important
things that they needed to resolve before they can pass that. Round two came and other projects
were considered again through an RFP process. Town Park was not considered in round two.
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Unfortunately, one of the projects that was considered in round two failed to move forward
because of title issues and it couldn't move forward and we saw this as an opportunity to be able
to address some of the needs or the remaining needs that Town Park had, and so we asked the
County to bring the request up the chain of command (UNINTELLIGIBLE) back to the state and
to HUD and we received approval to do that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So moved.
Mr. Duran: And these two -- thank you.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, Chair. I'm sorry.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Having a hard time.
Chair Suarez: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Ms. Thompson: No, no, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: I want to know if we just discussed one or two pocket items?
Mr. Duran: There's two.
Chair Suarez: There's two.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: He's combining them.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. That's what I needed to know.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: He (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Duran: I'm giving the background on both and then --
Chair Suarez: So we're going on --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Duran: -- I'm going to read both.
Chair Suarez: -- the first one, which is 12-321.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort. Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. All in
favor, signifi, by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
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Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING
Community MIAMI-DADE COUNTY'S RECAPTURE OF $470,416 FROM THE
Development COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ("CDBG") DISASTER RELIEF
INITIATIVE ("DRI") ROUND II CONTRACT BETWEEN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY
AND THE CITY OF MIAMI AWARD OF $2,776,264, PROVIDING FOR AN
AMENDED AWARD AMOUNT OF $2,305,848; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SEPARATE CDBG DRI ROUND II
CONTRACT BETWEEN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN
A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CDBG DRI FUNDS RECEIVED UNDER THE
MILITARY CONSTRUCTION APPROPRIATIONS AND EMERGENCY
HURRICANE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS
DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM, FROM THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $315,309, FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE TOWN PARK
VILLAGE I PROJECT THAT SUFFERED HURRICANE DAMAGE.
12-00422-Agenda Item Summary Form.pdf
12-00422-Legislation. pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this matter
be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
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Note for the Record: Please refer to Item NA.5 for minutes referencing Item NA.6.
Chair Suarez: The second one is 12-336.
Commissioner Gort: These are all property owners?
Alfredo Duran (Deputy Director, Community Development): Pardon?
Commissioner Gort: These are condominium property owners?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, these are --
Mr. Duran: Yes.
Chair Suarez: 12-336.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Suarez: Moved by Commissioner Gort.
Vice Chair Sarnoff Second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION BY CHAIR SUAREZ IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ALLOCATING THE $1.5 MILLION OF
HOME INVESTMENTS PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM (HOME) FUNDS THAT
ARE DEDICATED TO A SPECIFIC DISTRICT FOR 5 YEARS TO VICE
CHAIR SARNOFF'S DISTRICT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS.
DISCUSSED
Chair Suarez: One last thing. We've talked -- we've had a lot of discussions about the HOME
(Home Investment Partnership Program) funds and that -- did we -- the way we did it,
Commissioner Teele had set up a structure where a million and half dollars in HOME funds were
dedicated to a district for five years.
Alfredo Duran (Deputy Director, Community Development): Correct.
Chair Suarez: It's now come to either District 4 or District 2.
Mr. Duran: That's right.
Chair Suarez: And l just want to put for the record -- andl hope he accepts it -- I want him to be
the next five years, and the reason why is because he's got more viable affordable housing
projects going in the Grove than our -- than exist right now in my district. So, you know, I just
want to put that on the record. I hope he accepts it andl hope the rest of the Commission is okay
with that.
Mr. Duran: We're fine with that as well.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Fine with that.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I -- you -- I just want to -- you were mentioning these dash
numbers. Where were you reading --?
Chair Suarez: Oh, that's a -- the Law Department matter --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, okay.
Chair Suarez: -- ID (Identification) number.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: 'Cause I was reading (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Suarez: I was just trying to identf them somehow.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No problem.
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's fine.
Chair Suarez: So I apologize for not claming it. It wasn't the file ID. It was the Law
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Department ID number.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Suarez: So that's one and a half million for five years, right? So that's six, seven and a
half million.
Mr. Duran: Seven million. Yeah.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Duran: That's correct.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. And these funds are in the City. In other words, there's not a shortfall of --
Chair Suarez: No. We get them annually, HOME funds.
Mr. Duran: These are --
Chair Suarez: We get an annual allocation, which is a -- let me explain. We get an annual
allocation, which is in the aggregate, okay. Let's say it's four million. I'm just throwing that
number out there. What Commissioner Teele did was say we're going to segregate one and half
million and we're going to dedicate it to a district so that you can have an impact in that district
over a certain period of time, you know. In my opinion, your district has more need and more --
it's maybe not need 'cause the need is the same. It's -- it has more viable projects ready to go,
kind of shovel -ready, so I want to give your district -- because I -- you know how much I believe
in affordable housing. I want to give your district, you know, the money because I think we can
get it going and put it on the street faster.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Has it ever fallen below a million one -- five hundred thousand?
Chair Suarez: I don't think so.
Mr. Duran: What was the question?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Has it ever fallen below a million five?
Chair Suarez: No.
Mr. Duran: No.
Chair Suarez: No. We're like -- it's at four million, right?
Vice Chair Sarnofff. So you can bank on a million five?
Chair Suarez: Oh, yeah.
Mr. Duran: Well, as you stated earlier, you know --
Chair Suarez: You never know.
Mr. Duran: -- whether it's Obama or whether it's --
Chair Suarez: Right.
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Mr. Duran: -- you feel that the CDBG program --
Chair Suarez: Yeah.
Mr. Duran: -- might be cut entitlements, this is an entitlement. Hopefully it's not.
Chair Suarez: Right. But right now we get, what, like four million, something like that?
Mr. Duran: Actually this year we got 2.9.
Chair Suarez: Two point nine so --
Mr. Duran: We got -- we had a 39 percent cut in HOME.
Chair Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Duran: But the one and half million is there.
Chair Suarez: But we still have -- it's still 50 percent.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mr. Duran: So we can work --
Vce Chair Sarnofff. Sounds like (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Duran: -- with your district -- we can work with you to see what programs you want to --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to thank Ms. Slater. I know that they've been working
very hard --
Vice Chair Sarnofff. Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Thank you, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- in Overtown to make sure that that happens.
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And we're finally moving on it. It just wanted to tell her thank
you.
Chair Suarez: We got you. We got you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And thank you, CD (Community Development) --
Chair Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- for constantly --
Lillian Slater: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- pushing to make it (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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Ms. Slater: Well, I thank you, Commissioners, all of you. You know I love you.
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONER GORT DIRECTING THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW
THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING REGULATIONS THAT WOULD
PERMIT AND REGULATE THE PLACING OF HORIZONTAL ROOF
SIGNS FOR THE PURPOSE OF GENERATING ADDITIONAL
REVENUES FOR THE CITY AND CREATING MORE ATTRACTIVE
ROOF SETTINGS.
DISCUSSED
A motion was made by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, and was
passed unanimously, with Commissioner Carollo absent, directing the administration to have the
Planning Department review the possibility of creating regulations that would permit and
regulate the placement of horizontal roof signs.
Chair Suarez: Go ahead, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Pocket item, I mention it before. It's very simple. This is for the
Administration. I'd like the Planning Department to review the possibility of creating a
regulation that will permit and regulate and place in the horizontal roof sign as a way to
generate additional revenues for the City ofMiami, create more attractive setting to the roof.
This way we will be significant (UNINTELLIGIBLE) since many of the buildings in the City lie in
the fly path ofMiami International Airport. Does everybody understand the pocket item?
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Yes, sir.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Sir, I have an image that will hopefully --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can you --?
Mr. Garcia: -- be projected -- actually, there it is right now. Andl thought it might be helpful
because what it shows is the City ofMiami with all the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration)
flight path superimposed upon it. Andl think that image makes very simply the point that most --
almost all of the City ofMiami is actually covered by very well traveled air space. By that being
the case then, we think that there is certainly merit in pursuing the suggestion that you've
proposed to us. We know that it is possible according to the zoning ordinance presently in place
to do so. We are now working on a procedure to review and a procedure to permit such signs.
Commissioner Gort: Okay, thank you. That include also downtown Miami where they have the
downtown People Mover.
Mr. Garcia: Absolutely.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Chair Suarez: Can I just make one comment on it, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Yes, go ahead.
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Chair Suarez: My only kind of concern is that whatever we end up -- 'cause this is not the actual
legislation, right? This is just a direction?
Mr. Garcia: That is correct.
Commissioner Gort: That's correct.
Chair Suarez: But -- that the legislation -- that whatever the advertising is cannot be seen from
anywhere on the ground.
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Suarez: So it's -- you know, 'cause what -- somebody could build up, you know, on the
roof some sort of advertising and you could see it or whatever so.
Mr. Garcia: Right. The intent is to have them placed horizontally, as the Commissioner
described, on the tops of the buildings.
Chair Suarez: Like the American airlines Arena, the plane on the American Airlines Arena when
you fly over it.
Mr. Garcia: Case in point.
Commissioner Gort: And make sure that the pilot does not get distracted.
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. Thankyou.
Vice Chair Sarnoff. Is this valuable? Have you looked into whether this is valuable?
Mr. Garcia: We are looking for model ordinances elsewhere in the United States, sir, and we
would be prepared to present to the Commission soon.
Chair Suarez: That's a motion. Is there a second?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Suarez: Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Garcia: Thankyou.
Chair Suarez: Motion passes.
NA.9 RESOLUTION
12-00450
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION SUPPORTING THE
COST OF METALLIC COVERINGS AS A UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT ELIGIBLE EXPENSE; DIRECTING
THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE
FEDERAL AGENCIES DESIGNATED HEREIN.
Motion by Vice Chair Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
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ADJOURNMENT
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Spence -Jones
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Chair Suarez: I have one -- before adjourning, I have one pocket item, which is a resolution
directing the City -- I'm sorry, a resolution supporting the request to have HUD (Department of
Housing and Urban Development) allow for the metallic coverings to be part of an eligible
expense.
Vice Chair Sarnofff. So moved.
Commissioner Carollo: Second.
Chair Suarez: Moved by --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Suarez: -- Commissioner Sarnoff, second by Commissioner Carollo. And to transmit it to
all appropriate federal agencies 'cause it may just be more than one federal agency that deals
with that. All in favor, signift by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Suarez: Motion passes. Meeting adjourned.
The meeting adjourned at 7: 54 p.m.
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