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SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING
49 West 5th Street
Miami, Florida 33128
Thursday, July 29, 2004
9:00 a.m. - 9:40 a.m.
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PRESENT
FRANK A. ROLLASON, Community Redevelopment Agency
CHELSA ARSCOTT, Community Redevelopment Agency
WARREN H. PETER, CEII
DAN LEVY, URS
LEONARD HELMERS, City of Miami Public Works
MARK MESIANO, GFA International
JOSEPH KOHL, Dover Kohl & Associates
JOSE PEREZ DE CORCHO, Fortex
WILLIAM R. BLOOM, ESQ., Holland & Knight, LLP
MATTHEW SHCWARTZ, Crosswinds
TED LYONS, Fairplay, LTD
JOHN HALL, Black Archives
TIEESHA TAYLOR, D.R. Horton
JOSEPH FERNANDEZ, D.R. Horton
JOHN CORMIER, The Exodus Group
DERRICK MILAM, The Exodus Group
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PROCEEDINGS
MR. ROLLASON: Good morning, my name is Frank
Rollason, I'm the Executive Director for the
Community Redevelopment Agency. And we're here to
have the pre -bid conference dealing with block 36
which is an item that's up for bid. This has been
previously out and action was taken by the Board
of Directors to cancel the bid that was out
originally and to re -bid it. It's back out for
re -bid now.
And, you know, we're here today answer any
questions that you may have involved with this
item. And this is the agenda. Do you have the
agenda? Did you all get the agendas. Just pass
those out. Take one of those and pass them down.
We want to make sure that if you, I'm assuming
that most of you have e-mails, that we have that
address so as things come we can keep you right up
to speed of what is going on with any changes or
any questions that come in and we answer them.
What we will do is we will put these questions
online with the answers so that everybody gets
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them. One of things I want to emphasize to you is
that there is no cone of silence when you are
dealing with the CRA. You are able to contact us
individually, separately, however, and we can
discuss anything with you. We can provide any
information that we have to you. The only thing
you need to be aware of is that anything you
supply to us becomes public record. And it's then
available to any another, anybody else that wants
it.
So, you need to be aware of that. What we
say to you is that you should keep your
deliberations to yourself. Ask us whatever
questions you want and we will provide those
answers. But if you supply me any of your ideas
in asking your questions, those things become
public record if somebody requests it.
A couple of people that I want to introduce
to you so that and then there should be some
other, hopefully another couple of representatives
from the city will show up also. But first of all
Chelsa Arscott who heads up our planning section
will be the primary contact in dealing with this
RFP. Joe Kohl is with us. He is with Dover Kohl.
He is with the planning outfit that is doing, or
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has done the plan updates for the southeast
Overtown Park West CRA. So when we refer to the
Dover Kohl plans and so forth and so on, this is
the Kohl of the Dover Kohl. So questions that you
may have dealing with the plan that's why we
brought Joe in here today in case you have some
questions dealing with that.
This is William Bloom, he is special counsel
for the CRA from Holland & Knight. He's out legal
counsel. Sometimes there are questions that arise
that are of a legal nature and then we would refer
them to him. You may not necessarily get the
answer today when you walk in the door, but I mean
if we hear it firsthand by the people it makes it
a little bit easier to research what is going on.
Down on the end is Mr. Leonard Helmers. Leonard
is an engineer with the City of Miami Public Works
Department, Civil Engineer, and any of the
questions you may have dealing with public works
issues, rights -of -way or easements and that type
of thing he's here for that purpose.
We're anticipating that we're going to have a
representative here from zoning who has committed
to be here. So hopefully they are going to be
here. And with that being said, unless there is
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any procedural questions or things just a overhead
in general, we will open it up to you for whatever
you may have. I think in the agenda you planned
if somebody wants to make a site visit, we will do
that after this. Some of you have been there
before, others have not. It's just up the street.
If you want to go over and put an eyeball on it we
can do that.
MR. DE CORCHO: Since we can communicate with
you folks, is there any way that we can
communicate also with the folks on this staff.
MR. ROLLASON: Well, you will deal with
Chelsa directly. You will deal with her directly.
She will get you hooked up with the right person.
If it requires to bring somebody in because we
can't get the answer, we can do that. But, no, if
you want to go to the Public Works Department and
go over the zoning and talk with them over there
you're certainly free to do that. When you go
talk to Joe it costs me money, but I don't object
to that. But, you know, if we get to that we have
to do that.
MR. BLOOM: But you're strongly encouraged to
go to the City Building and Zoning and Public
Works when you do your investigations, so you can
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make your own independent determination on the
condition of the property, plats, utilities, and
anything that you may go ahead include those as
part of your development.
MR. PETER: Is there a prequalification
process for the teams that are looking to respond
to this process and, if so, is there a short
listing determination and a period of time
involved with this? I am trying to get a sense of
the magnitude of revision statement you would hope
to receive by August 16 on this property.
MR. ROLLASON: It's open for all comers.
There is no prequalification. It says whatever.
You submit your packet and we're going to evaluate
it on the basis of what the submittal is.
MR. PETER: On the tiff.
documents,
is seen or
that there
but I just want to
foreseen as a five
is some percentage
I read the
be clear that what
year period of TIFF
that may be allowed
go back into the project. Can you elaborate on
what percentage that may be?
MR. ROLLASON: There is no set percentage
that way. It depends on what you propose in your
package. That is strictly negotiable.
MR. PETER: Okay, thank you.
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MR. BLOOM: I'm not sure of this five year
period, where that came from.
MR. PETER: In response to -- The question
and answer period, I believe, of July 6 that was
provided in these documents, it's actually called
addendum number two. And question number twelve
was the five year projected TIFF. I wasn't sure
if that was assigned to just this property or the
overall.
MR. ROLLASON: No. In other words somebody
was asking us, what are we projecting TIFF to be.
And I'm saying what are projecting the project to
be. I mean you build this the TIFF is X. If you
build this the TIFF is Y. So, I couldn't get that
out.
MR. BLOOM: To further clarify the TIFF is
for the duration of the CRA. I think it's 2013
the CRA expires at this point. So TIFF would be
valid for that period of time. So in your
proposal you could, you know, ask for all or a
portion of that. But it's not just a five year
period. So I just want to make that's understood.
MR. ROLLASON: It's just that the question
was asked what is the TIFF for a five year period.
But it really has no relationship for the
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availability of TIFF.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Prior to August 16, will you
provide a list of the evaluation criteria of
how --
MR. ROLLASON: I will let her answer.
MS. ARSCOTT: The deadline is August 18.
MR. SCHWARTZ: It's July 16th.
MS. ARSCOTT: August 18.
MR. ROLLASON: August 18. There are two
requirements that there be two separate
submittals, one based on price and one based on
project. But if a group wants to submit two base
on project, that's open. We will take whatever it
is you submit to evaluate.
MR. PETER: There is 50-foot road, it's my
understanding, correct me, that runs through block
36 that does not necessarily need to remain a road
or a pedestrian path at all and can be absorbed
into the project and be utilized in anyway?
MR. ROLLASON: That is correct. We say in
the RFP that you should submit your plan for a
re -plat, what your thoughts were to re -plat. Not
the actual re -plat, but we envision you saying to
us, we would re -plat it this way. We would
eliminate this road. We would do this. We would
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do that. That's what. We would end up with this
kind of a block. Somebody may come and say I
would put tow additional roads through here,
supply access. So, we're looking for what your
vision for a re -plat for that portion of the
property.
MR. BLOOM: The block has a roadway and two
alleyways running through it. The Public Works
Department is in the process of processing a plat
that would re -plat a portion of the block.
THE REPORTER: I'm sorry, I can't hear you.
MR. BLOOM: It does not re -plat the entire
block nor does it vacate all of the alleyways
running throughout the property. And it has
nothing to do with removal of any utilities or
relocation of any utilities located in either of
the alleyways or the roadway.
MR. ROLLASON: Let me clarify something a
little bit further, because in the entire block of
36 there are two alleyways. However one of the
alleyways that Mr. Bloom is referring to is not
within the block that we're talking about that is
available. The alleyway that's immediately
behind, running behind the Lyric Theater, is not a
piece of what we're talking about. That piece
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that you, that we're having you present an RFP on
ends at the east boundary of that particular
alleyway. And that's the alleyway he is talking
about that is being discussed now and going for a
re -plating process to eliminate it at this point.
But there is, as you can see by this, northwest
1st court and then another alleyway that runs here
that is within the area that is in the ark. And
there is a legal description supplying this to
you.
(Indistinguishable people talking to low.)
MR. ROLLASON: Listen we have to speak up so
the reporter can get this down.
MR. DE CORCHO: The question was basically on
the latest e-mail for the addendum, I couldn't
take that file onto our plot because it says that
in our CD being provided now we will have a CAD
file so that we can reproduce these drawing.
MR. ROLLASON: I mean it is to our best
interest to provide you what you need to be able
to make a sensible proposal to us. So, if there
is something you need or if you go through the
process, you say, hey, look this is not adequate,
I can't make heads or tails of this, let us know,
and we will try to address that and get it out to
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everybody so everybody knows what we tell you.
MR. PETER: Can you tell me what is going on
the property with Bovis Klein Lee signs on it
across from this property?
MS. ARSCOTT: What they're building?
MR. PETER: Yes, I'm not aware of what style
the building is.
MS. ARSCOTT: Overtown Transit project being
planned by Dade County, seventeen story
administrative offices with retail, around about
five hundred parking spaces.
MR. PETER: It's a private development. It's
seventeen stories, five hundred parking spaces.
MS. ARSCOTT: Five hundred space parking lot
and retail on the ground floor.
MR. ROLLASON: If's offices, it's an
extension of the County building. DERM is moving
in and something else is moving in there.
MR. PETER: Do you happen to know what the
exterior facade may be or --
MR. ROLLASON: No, I don't. But I'm certain
that would be available in the city's planing
department. I don't know whether they had to go
through a bus process at all but they sure had to
get a class two permit I would think.
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MR. KOHL: A lot of that transit boundary
went straight through to county. The didn't have
to go through the municipalities.
MR. ROLLASON: Right, but I think, when they
talk about the facades and so forth, I think that
stuff was supplied to planning.
MR. KOHL: I'm sure they did.
MR. ROLLASON: But I mean the county for
sure.
MR. PETER: We would just want to make sure.
MR. LYONS: We would just want to make sure
it's in the boundary, would it take from 7th
street to 8th street, the total block or how far
would it stretch, would it go over to 2nd avenue
to 1st avenue.
MS. ARSCOTT: The alley, it goes from 8th
street. It goes from the Overtown Station west to
northwest 1st court. And it goes between 8th
street and six street.
MR. LYONS: All the way down to 6?
MR. HELMERS: Yes. They replatted to close
that whole portion of 7th street.
MR. BLOOM: They have been approved on there
so I think there is a building permit already.
MR. ROLLASON: They're building. It's under
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construction. It's up. I mean you can go by
there and look and you pretty well see where they
have got the fence line running. Very good
demarcation of what the project will look like.
Have we got everybody on the sign -in sheet? Did
everybody sign in today?
MR. LYONS: Did you say that was 17 stories.
MS. ARSCOTT: Yes.
MR. DE CORCHO: What is CRA plans regarding
the remainder of the Overtown development area?
Supposedly there are other groups that came in
initially?
MR. ROLLASON: Crosswinds.
MR. DE CORCHO: Crosswinds. Huge area. What
is the city or what is the CRA planning on doing
with the rest of the portions of this, are they
going to issue different RFP's for different
areas?
MR. ROLLASON: Not the open blocks, the open
blocks?
MR. DE CORCHO: Yes, the lot's available.
MR. ROLLASON: Let's talk about the open
blocks that were originally and still in
discussion with Crosswinds. And Matthew is a
Crosswinds representative.
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MR. LYONS: Crosswinds owns it already.
MR. ROLLASON: No, I said it's still in
negotiations.
MR. LYONS: Oh, okay.
MR. ROLLASON: Those blocks are part of an
ongoing litigation. And Crosswinds has come in
partnering with the litigant with against the city
and the CRA and has come to the table with a plan
in an effort to settle that litigation. If that
is worked out that property would go to Crosswinds
through whatever the settlement agreement is. The
purchase prices are being discussed and TIFF and
all that. But I mean those are all items we
discussed. But if that were to be resolved and
the Board has the ultimate approval to approve
that. Those three and a half blocks would go to
Crosswinds to develop.
And their plan right now is presented as a
multi -use residential project. If that falls
through and nothing happens with Crosswinds, for
whatever reason, and we have made you aware of
this. You're aware that there is a reverter upon
the block that you, or upon it that reverts back
to the county, two of the blocks. There are three
blocks that are in that reverter and two of those
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three blocks are in the litigation also dealing
with the village. So if Crosswinds were to go
away we are then faced with still having to
resolve the initial litigation. And we still have
the time running with the County on those blocks
reverting to the County.
MR. PETER: And that ends in to 2007.
MR. ROLLASON: 2007, in other words in 2007
we have not had substantial construction on those
three books they revert to the County.
MR. BLOOM: I think in your package that you
received, you received a settlement agreement with
the County dealing with the reverter, because they
are the same reverter that affects Crosswinds
parcel affects block 36. I would assume you would
want to have some discussion, if you're the
successful proponent, with the County to clarify
the position. Right now the way the reverter is
worded all the properties are one united block
even though they are separate blocks. So you
would want to protect yourself so that the County
would recognize development on your piece would
satisfy the requirements of the reverter with
respect to that block so you wouldn't have to be
worried about there not being any development on
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the other three blocks and two blocks that are
affected by the lawsuit.
MS. ARSCOTT: There is an additional block,
block 25 which is just north of 36. That is a
property that is still undeveloped and we will be
dealing with that at the end of this year or the
beginning of next year.
MR. DE CORCHO: Okay.
MR. ROLLASON: Survey is out.
MR. LYONS: There is a mall there.
MR. BLOOM: There is a survey of that.
MR. PETER: What is the method of disposal.
Aren't they both part of the same package.
MR. MESIANO: That may be natural to do it at
this time.
MS. ARSCOTT: The board hasn't instructed us
to do it that way. That one is not included in
the reverter clause either.
MR. LYONS: It's the same size.
MR. BLOOM: Lot 25 is not the subject of this
so we don't want to --
MR. LYONS: No, I understand that.
MR. BLOOM: The question has come up. We're
looking at the square footage, 149,000.
MR. LYONS: 149,040.
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MR. BLOOM: This is not correct. The survey
isn't correct, because this survey shows the
entire block. CRA does not own all the land in
the block.
MR. LYONS: It's kind of like the thing was
in the thumb, 36 --
MR. ROLLASON: That's correct up in the
corner.
MR. BLOOM: There may be something over here
We're definitely not going to give you this piece
It's not correct as far as the ownership.
MR. ROLLASON: This is an aerial.
MR. LYONS: But it's out there, 25.
MR. ROLLASON: 25 is out there. And 25 is
the only block of the large blocks that has We
don't have any covenant on this to date. We
received that back as a result of settlement of
another litigation. And it is not part of the
County litigation nor is it a part of the
Crosswinds Poinciana Village litigation. So it
doesn't have the clock running on it, block 25.
So the Board has sort of sat there and said, we're
not under the gun to have to do something with
this right a way. Block 36, which is this block
here, which is the one we're talking about, and
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then this one, this one, this one and this piece
here are the ones that are involved with the
litigation with Poinciana Village. So this is the
one we're talking about today. And this alleyway
is the alleyway where the demarcation stops. In
other words here is the Lyric Theater sitting here
on this corner. And so we're talking about going
this way is what we're talking about.
So there you have the street, then you have
the other alleyway. That is within, gives you a
little better picture about this. And like Bill
Bloom is saying the properties that are in pink
are the ones that we have ownership of and you can
see when you look at block 25 there is some
parcels in here that are privately owned.
MR. PETER: Going back to block 36, is there
any height restriction, and I ask that question
because if the project across the street is 17
stories and Mr. Kohl, I believe, your drawings
were going up to 13 stories. Is there any reason
why a developer couldn't figure on going up
higher.
MR. KOHL: Well, the zoning on this block is
ST16 and right offhand that is something that
zoning ought to be here to tell you the height.
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It's got a pretty high FAR that's allowed. The
FAR increases depending on how you mix the uses,
if I remember right. I think it's a four to five
FAR. Do you remember.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yes.
MR. ROLLASON: Listen without the zoning
person here you can get with city zoning and they
will help you out.
MR. SCHWARTZ: 4.32 max FAR.
MR. KOHL: So, we're in the process of
reworking the zone. That may take a little while.
So right now the way the parcel is written is that
current zoning is what controls the development.
MR. BLOOM: So there is no conflict between
current zoning and redevelopment.
MR. KOHL: And redevelopment. We wanted to
deal with at the beginning. So there are
illustrations in the plan that some parts of
Overtown Park West will exceed the current
development potential under the zoning. But the
plan also anticipates reworking the zoning.
MR. ROLLASON: At this time we bid the
pre -bid conference a little earlier in the process
than we had on other the one. I mean, it goes
both ways. I mean there is probably going to be
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other questions that will come up and you as you
delve into this. So, you know, all I can
encourage you to do is get back with us. The best
way is through the e-mail with Chelsa, because
then the documents, we can respond to that and
shoot it out there to everybody so everybody gets
to know what the answers are and knows what's
going on. You're more than welcome to stop by
here and see us and discuss it and we can handle
it that way, too. Any other questions. All
right, is there anybody that wants to take a walk
over there. We can arrange that, too.
MR. LYONS: We have done that.
MR. ROLLASON: You have already done that?
MR. LYONS: Yes.
MR. ROLLASON: Well, there being nothing
further, we're done. Oh, we got one.
MR. MESIANO: Can we get a copy of this
sign -in sheet.
MR. ROLLASON: Sure. As soon as everybody
signs we will run some copies off and get them
out. Okay. Is everybody signed in on it. All
right we will run some copies and we will consider
this meeting closed.
MR. HELMERS: There were a couple of
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questions that were faxed over to Public Works,
very specific questions and I did bring some
documents.
MR. ROLLASON: Okay, if you want to address
those.
MR. HELMERS: Okay. There was a question
about the 8th and 9th street development. The
city in 1984 adopted the design guideline
standards for Southeast Overtown Park West area.
Those design standards include a cross section
from 8th street, because there was a question
about the zoning with 8th street. I'll leave that
with Mr. Rollason and make copies available to
anybody.
Also, the 9th street mall which is
MR. BLOOM: Wait. So what that shows for 8th
street is they are widening and taking another
12.5 feet.
MR. HELMERS: That's correct.
MR. BLOOM: Off the south side of the
property for that zoned right-of-way.
MR. HELMERS: And of course 9th street is
developed with the mall of which there is a
25 feet of undedicated right-of-way that is
reserved for that mall.
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The second question was apparently there were
no design plans around for 9th street mall itself.
I do have a copy. I'll leave it with
Mr. Rollason. These are the original design plans
for the 9th street mall in this section, okay.
MR. DE CORCHO: You have that on disc.
MR. HELMERS: This a county document and you
might be able to contact, I was talking with
Maggie Duwill (phonetic) over at the County, who
is in charge at that time.
MR. KOHL: What is that dated.
MR. HELMERS: This is dated --
(Indistinguishable several people talking at
the same time.
MR. DE CORCHO: Could you make copies of some
of those documents?
MR. ROLLASON: Which documents?
MR. HELMERS: This is a county document I
just made a copy. We would have to copy that.
MR. DE CORCHO: At least the plan anyway.
MR. ROLLASON: We can do that.
MR. HALL: Is there any indication as to
whether the 9th street mall is going to be
developed now according to that plan or anything?
MR. HELMERS: This is a County project. I'm
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not sure what their schedule is for anymore
development on the 9th street mall.
MR. ROLLASON: Is this the phase when they
did the original piece for the Summit of the
Americas.
MR. LYONS: Yes.
MR. ROLLASON: Well, I can answer that. The
county is not going to do anything further with
that. They are done. But we're looking to do
further. This is the plan. If that is what this
is, this is the plan that they put out to bid and
the prices came back to high and they abandoned
it.
What we're looking to try to do is pick up
the pieces so that we can get the Lyric Plaza,
which is the piece that runs along 2nd avenue from
the Lyric Theater. Right now the Lyric Theater
has an expansion construction going on on the
north side of it. And then there is some property
left that belongs to the County that butts up
against the 9th street mall. What we're in the
process doing is wanting to extend the Lyric Plaza
up to the connection of that wall. And we're also
looking to connect the 9th street mall and make
the crossing at the railroad tracks going east so
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that we can connect the mall going across 1st
avenue. And those are our objectives. There is
nothing concrete set. We're in negotiations with
the county right now to obtain those two little
parcels that belong to the county on that corner
to be able to extend that very plaza up. And
that's where you see the drawings that are in here
that deal with the piano shaped plaza and that
type of thing with the step-ups and all that. But
that's from way back.
MR. LYONS: Those rails are not coming out
are they?
MR. ROLLASON: Which rails?
MR. LYONS: Railroad tracks on 1st avenue
between the property --
MR. ROLLASON: The FEC tracks.?
MR. LYONS: Yes.
MR. ROLLASON: No. They are not coming out
now. I mean that's not our property, that's FEC's
property.
MR. LYONS: Yes, I know, but I was just
wondering.
MR. HELMERS: That railroad crossing serves
the Port of Miami, a spur runs over there.
MR. LYONS: I was just wondering how to cross
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it you have to go all the way around.
MR. ROLLASON: No, no, we'll build a
crossing.
MR. LYONS: You'll build a cross -over.
MR. ROLLASON: Yes. No, we'll build a
crossing where the tracks stay and we'll just --
MR. LYONS: Build a crossover?
MR. ROLLASON: Yes. In fact there is already
an agreement between the city and the FEC to do
that piece.
MR. KOHL: Looks like there is a plaza, a
pavement with some decoration right across the
tracks.
MR. ROLLASON: Right. That whole project was
listed in here as the Lyric's Plaza and also there
is a comfort station in there for buses. And the
reason for that was is there was some
transportation money that was involved in that.
And now that that money has been withdrawn and
when we redo this I don't know for sure that we're
looking for that comfort station back in.
I mean it is the intent of this Board and the
Commission to extend that 9th street pedestrian
mall from Mt. Zion Church to Biscayne Boulevard.
That's why you see with an acronym that the
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Technology Center of the Americas that when they
did that piece of sidewalk that runs along on the
north side of the building, originally the
building line was going to come out to the edge of
the sidewalk and drop down. And when we met with
them -- That's why they had that offset, there
was walk -under and the brick pavers are out there
and that type of thing. The mix that's going in
on 9th street between 8th and 9th street they're
going to do a piece along the north side where the
their entrance, it's a brick pattern pavers that
will match up. So, hopefully when it's finished
three will be this kind of a theme running through
the entire corridor that lends itself to
pedestrian walking and traversing the area from
Overtown to the boulevard.
MR. KOHL: The actual drawings are dated,
1996.
MR. ROLLASON: Right, that is Summit of the
Americas. I mean if you want that we can make you
some of that. But that's not going to help us.
It's a dead issue. That is not happing. Some
involvement with this plaza is going to continue
up this way, like I say, from the Lyric Theater,
but if you go by it you will see it's just an open
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grassy space that's running up against the mall.
I think that if you And I think we did
supply you with a copies of the Dover Kohl plan,
you got the discs. You will see in there what the
overall theme of that area is and what we're
trying to do in preserving the folk -like village
and so forth and so on.
MR. KOHL: Actually called the redevelopment
plan.
MR. ROLLASON: What else have we got.
MR. HELMERS: I received a list of questions,
I don't know if they have all been answered yet.
Most have to do with the 8th and 9th street zone
risk and potential development. Everybody is
aware that there is additional dedications
required.
MR. ROLLASON: Right we supplied that.
(Indistinguishable several people talking at
the same time.)
MR. ROLLASON: Twelve and a half and
twenty-five and no construction over those areas
MR. BLOOM: But again as far as development
purposes to build on site, as far as the
developing within the FAR they just wouldn't be
able to build on those strips.
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MR. HELMERS: Well, your FAR and your open
space and various other calculations are contained
in the zoning ordinance and some of those items
allow you to count to the center line of the
street anyway. So the dedication
all of the zoning requirements on
MR. HALL: If you don't mine
like to say publicly, that we are
with
the level
of disclosure that
might not affect
the property.
I would just
very pleased
this process has
illustrated at this point, just for the record.
MR. ROLLASON: Thank you. There is no
secrets here. If we got it, you're welcome to it.
And that doesn't preclude you of your
responsibility of doing your homework, too. We.
Will provide you with what we have and based on what we
have we will give it to you. Our position is that this
is what we have and take it for the value that it has
been presented to you. Any other questions. All
right, sold. Thank you very much for coming.
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CERTIFICATE
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH
I, WAYNE McDANIEL, Professional Reporter, do
hereby certify that I was authorized to and did
stenographically report the foregoing proceedings; and
that the transcript is a true and correct transcription
of the proceedings.
I further certify that I am not a relative,
employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties,
nor am I a relative or employee of any of the parties'
attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor am I
financially interested in the action.
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH
WITNESS my hand and official seal in the
County of Palm Beach, State of Florida, this 110h day
of August, 2004.
a. alrtNid
WAYNE "McDANIEL
Notary Public - State of Florida.
My Commission No.: DD 119402
Expires: May 21, 2006
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