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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, December 8, 2011
9:00 AM
SPECIAL MEETING
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Chairman
Frank Carollo, Vice -Chairman
Marc David Sarnoff, Commissioner District Two
Francis Suarez, Commissioner District Four
Michelle Spence -Jones, Commissioner District Five
Johnny Martinez, City Manager
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes December 8, 2011
9:00 A.M. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ORDER OF THE DAY
Present: Chairman Gort, Commissioner Sarnoff, Vice Chairman Carollo, Commissioner Suarez
and Commissioner Spence -Jones
On the 8th day of December 2011, the City Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in special
session. The meeting was called to order by Chair Gort at 9:30 a.m., recessed at 12: 18 p.m.,
reconvened at 2:14 p.m., and adjourned at 3: 06p.m.
Note for the Record: Vice Chair Carollo entered the Commission chambers at 9: 31 a.m., and
Commissioner Sarnoff entered the Commission chambers at 10: 55 a.m.
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Luis Cabrera, Assistant City Manager
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
Chair Gort: (INAUDIBLE) City ofMiami special Commission meeting for December 8, special
to deal with the CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) fundings [sic] from the -- the
grants from the federal governments [sic]. On the dais with me is Commissioner Spence -Jones,
Commissioner Suarez, and myself Chairman W fredo Willy'Gort. Also, we have Attorney Julie
Bru; Assistant City Manager Luis Cabrera; and today is -- substituting for Priscilla, Todd
Hannon. Thank you all. Will you all please stand for the invocation by Commissioner Suarez
and the pledge of allegiance by Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Invocation and pledge of allegiance delivered.
Chair Gort: We have Vice Chairman Frank Carollo here also. Madam Attorney.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the Commission, Mr.
Mayor, Mr. Manager, members of the public, City Clerk. This is a special meeting of the City
Commission. It's been called to consider and address funding amendments affecting the City's
annual action plan for the U.S. (United States) Department of Housing and Urban Development
programs. The material for the item on the agenda is available and was available during
business hours at the City Clerk's office and online at www.miamigov.com. Anyone who wishes
to appeal any decision made by the City Commission for any matter considered at this meeting
may need a verbatim record of the item. Please, no cell phone or other noise -making devices are
permitted in the chamber. Silence those devices now. Any person with a disability or requiring
any kind of auxiliary aids or services for this meeting, please notify the City Clerk. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
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11-01098
Department of
Community
Development
(SP.1)
11-01098
Department of
Community
Development
PUBLIC HEARINGS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
ACCEPTANCE OF UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT GRANT FUNDS, IN THE TOTAL
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $24,774,235, AS STATED HEREIN, FOR THE
FOLLOWING PROGRAMS: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT,
HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PERSONS WITH AIDS, AND THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT, FOR
PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE
ACCEPTANCE OF THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF GRANT FUNDS WHEN MADE
AVAILABLE FOR SAID PURPOSE.
11-01098 Summary Form.pdf
11-01098 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01098 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
RECONSIDERED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
ACCEPTANCE OF UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT GRANT FUNDS, IN THE TOTAL
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $24,774,235, AS STATED HEREIN, FOR THE
FOLLOWING PROGRAMS: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT,
HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PERSONS WITH AIDS, AND THE EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT, FOR
PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE
ACCEPTANCE OF THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF GRANT FUNDS WHEN MADE
AVAILABLE FOR SAID PURPOSE.
11-01098 Summary Form.pdf
11-01098 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01098 Legislation.pdf
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Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
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Chair Gort: At this time, SP.1.
George Mensah: Good morning, Mr. Chair and Commissioners. George Mensah, director of
Community Development. SP.1 is a resolution of the Miami City Commission authorizing the
acceptance of United States Department of Housing and Urban Development entitlement grant
funds, in the total amount of $24, 774, 235, for the Community Development Block Grant, the
HOME Investment Partnerships, the Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS (Acquired
Immunodeficiency Syndrome), and the Emergency Grant Solutions for program year 2012 to
2013.
Commissioner Suarez: I move the acceptance of the U.S. HUD (United States Department of
Housing and Urban Development) entitlement grant funds.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved and second. Each item is a public hearing. Is anyone in the public
would like to address this issue? Is anyone in the public would like to address this issue?
Showing none, all -- any further discussion? Discussion. Being none, all in favor, state it by
saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
[Later..]
Ninoshka Reyes (Assistant City Attorney): Mr. Chair, may I make a clarification before you
break? I'm sorry.
Chair Gort: Beg your pardon?
Ms. Reyes: Can I make a clarification before we break?
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Ms. Reyes: SP.1 and SP. 3 refers to Emergency Solutions Grants. That's the name that HUD is
proposing to change. The true name of the funds is Emergency Shelter Grant.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): So am I hearing you say that on SP.1 --
Ms. Reyes: And SP.3.
Ms. Thompson: -- and SP.3 the information included in the legislation as -- regarding the name
of the entity that was listed has to be changed?
Ms. Reyes: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: We're changing that on the floor?
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Ms. Reyes: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Then, Chair, we would --
Chair Gort: Do I have a motion to change the wording on this --?
Ms. Thompson: No, no, no. I'm sorry. We have to do it in two steps. One is a motion to
reconsider the item. Then you go ahead and make your modification and take the vote on each
one of those.
Mr. Mensah: It's only one that's needed.
Chair Gort: Do I have a motion to (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) 12:16: 33 the item?
Ms. Reyes: It refers to SP.3 as well.
Commissioner Suarez: We'll do it afterwards.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Sarnoff.
Ms. Thompson: And now you --
Chair Gort: All in favor, state it saying "aye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Thompson: So now --
Chair Gort: Now it's --
Ms. Thompson: -- you're reconsidering SP.1. And the attorney is going to state on the record
the change, please, the modification.
Ms. Reyes: The change that we are accepting Community Development Block Grant Home
Investment Partnership Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS and Emergency Shelter
Grant program year 2012-2013.
Commissioner Suarez: I move the item as described by the City Attorney.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Sarnoff. All in
favor, state it by saying "aye."
Commissioner Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Chair Gort: Aye.
Ms. Reyes: We need quorum.
Commissioner Suarez: Where is he?
Chair Gort: Hello.
Commissioner Suarez: Commissioner Sarnoff, we need a second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
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Commissioner Suarez: Okay, we got a second from Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Chair Gort: Been second. All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
ACCEPTANCE OF SECTION 8 HOUSING PROGRAM FUNDS, IN THE
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $4,244,682 FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND IN
THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $485,000 FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM
ADMINISTRATION, FOR A TOTAL PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $4,729,682,
FROM FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSE.
11-01097 Summary Form.pdf
11-01097 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01097 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP. 2 is a resolution of the Miami City
Commission authorizing the acceptance of Section 8 housing program funds, in the projected
amount of $4, 244, 862 [sic] for rental assistance, and in the projected amount of $485, 000 for
Administration, in the total amount of $4,729,682, for fiscal year 2012-2013.
Chair Gort: Let me ask you a question. For the benefit of those that's in here and for those
watching this, could you explain how those funds are being utilized -- how they will be utilized?
Mr. Mensah: The Section 8 funds are rental provided through rental assistance and they are
provided to help the individuals on the Section 8 list pay their rent. We have approximately 436
people that receive rent assistance in this way and we have a waiting list of approximately
10,000 people.
Chair Gort: In other words, my understanding -- because I think it's very important to
understand that we have Home 8 -- Section 8 program, which we have X'amount of funding. At
this time we're funding four hundred and --
Mr. Mensah: It's actually four million, two hundred and forty-four --
Chair Gort: No, but how many people?
Mr. Mensah: For 436.
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Chair Gort: Four hundred and thirty-six. That section will not be open again until we have
some vacancy.
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Chair Gort: Then when we have vacancy, the City ofMiami will issue a new vouchers, right?
Mr. Mensah: Right now -- no -- we have a wait list --
Chair Gort: Of 10,000.
Mr. Mensah: -- so -- of 10,000 and we have to go by the wait list.
Chair Gort: No. I think it's very important people understand that because people come up to
us says, I've been on the list so long. They don't realize there's people that's been waiting there
for years.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, that's true.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Open to the public. Is anyone in the public would like to address this
issue? Anyone in the public would like to address it? Okay, close the public hearings [sic].
Commissioner Suarez: Move the --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second. Discussion.
Commissioner Suarez: -- acceptance of Section 8 funding.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Discussion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for giving clarity on -- because that
Section 8 issue is definitely an issue. People assume -- our residents assume that we do have
these vouchers available, so clearing that up I think is extremely important. I just want to have
George also have clarity -- I don't know if we all know what the breakdowns are on the Section 8
vouchers per district. And it's not done by districts; it's done on a first -come, first -served basis,
correct?
Mr. Mensah: Yes, it's done on first -come, first -served basis. I know that -- I don't have the
percentages here with me, but I know that majority's in District 3 because of the fact that we
have a lot of the buildings in District 3.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So District 3. So we get all the parks and you get all the Section
8.
Commissioner Suarez: I don't have any parades, I can tell you that much.
Vice Chair Carollo: I won't comment right now.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just wanted to mention. Okay.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
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Department of
Community
Development
(SP.3)
11-01100
Department of
Community
Development
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
ALLOCATION OF EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT ("ESG") FUNDS FOR
PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013, IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $351,760,
TO THE CITY OF MIAMI HOMELESS PROGRAM, NEIGHBORHOOD
ENHANCEMENT TEAM AND THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $10,879, TO
THE CITY OF MIAMI DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION OF GRANT -RELATED ACTIVITIES, FOR A TOTAL
PROJECTED ALLOCATION OF $362,639; DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO SUBMITA MULTI -YEAR WAIVER REQUEST TO THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO INCREASE
THE PERCENTAGE OF ESG FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED FOR ESSENTIAL
SERVICES; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSES.
11-01100 Summary Form.pdf
11-01100 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01100 Departments Certification.pdf
11-01100 Legislation .pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-11-0484
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
RECONSIDERED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
ALLOCATION OF EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT ("ESG") FUNDS FOR
PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013, IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $351,760,
TO THE CITY OF MIAMI HOMELESS PROGRAM, NEIGHBORHOOD
ENHANCEMENT TEAM AND THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $10,879, TO
THE CITY OF MIAMI DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION OF GRANT -RELATED ACTIVITIES, FOR A TOTAL
PROJECTED ALLOCATION OF $362,639; DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO SUBMITA MULTI -YEAR WAIVER REQUEST TO THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO INCREASE
THE PERCENTAGE OF ESG FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED FOR ESSENTIAL
SERVICES; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSES.
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11-01100 Summary Form.pdf
11-01100 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01100 Departments Certification.pdf
11-01100 Legislation .pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Gort: SP. 3.
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP. 3 is a resolution of the Miami City
Commission authorizing the allocation of Emergency Solutions Grant funds in the amount of
$351,760 to the City's homeless program, in an amount of $10,879 to the City ofMiami
Department of Community Development, for administration [sic] -related activities.
Chair Gort: Thank you, George. Once again, I'd like for you to please go into detail how these
funds are utilized.
Mr. Mensah: These funds are primarily used by the NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team)
offices' homeless programs, and it's used for (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 9: 37: 40 services. It pays for
staff who goes around and makes sure that if somebody's homeless, that they are taken to the
right -- given the right services. Andl have Haydee here who can further explain.
Haydee Wheeler (Director, Neighborhood Enhancement Team): Yes. Good morning.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Wheeler: Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Haydee Wheeler. I'm the director of
NET. With me is Sergio Torres, the administrator of the Miami Homeless Assistance program
under NET. The ESG (Emergency Solutions Grant) dollars are used to actually pay for 15
outreach positions that are used on a daily basis, 24/7, to reach out to the City's homeless
population and provide them with assistance.
Chair Gort: Thank you. My understanding -- I have some information from the different
providers of services, and my understanding, all the beds that was full as of last month. How do
we deal with that?
Sergio Torres: Good morning, Commissioners. Sergio Torres, City ofMiami Homeless program
administrator. That's real. The bed situation is really tough. For singles -- all the shelters that
we have that add to 1,400, the emergency shelter beds are up to capacity and also we have 60 --
excuse me, 52 families residing in hotel waiting to get into shelters.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Anyone in the public would like to address this issue? Is anyone in the
public would like to address this, SP.3? Being none, close the public hearings [sic]. Do I have
a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: Move --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Spence -Jones.
Discussion. Being none, all in favor, state it by saying iiye. "
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The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
[Later..]
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Now --
Chair Gort: SP. 2.
Ninoshka Reyes (Assistant City Attorney): SP. 3.
Chair Gort: SP. 3.
Ms. Reyes: Motion to reconsider.
Commissioner Suarez: Motion to reconsider SP.3.
Chair Gort: It's been moved and there's a second somewhere before we get through with the
meeting.
Commissioner Suarez: We need a second on a motion to reconsider. We need a second on a
motion to reconsider.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Gort: It's been second.
Ms. Thompson: Now --
Chair Gort: Madam Attorney.
Ms. Reyes: I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. You got to vote on your motion. Your vote -- first, you need to vote on
your --
Ms. Reyes: It's a resolution of the Miami City Commission authorizing --
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me.
Ms. Reyes: I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: I need a vote on the motion to reconsider, please.
Commissioner Suarez: Aye.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Aye.
Chair Gort: Aye.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. Now we'll go in with your modification of that resolution.
Ms. Reyes: And the modification is as follows. A resolution of the Miami City Commission
authorizing the allocation of Emergency Shelter Grant funds for program year --
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Commissioner Suarez: Move it as --
Ms. Reyes: -- 2012-2013.
Commissioner Suarez: -- described by the City Attorney.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Second.
Chair Gort: -- Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner --
Ms. Reyes: Thank you. I apologize.
Chair Gort: -- Sarnoff. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying
"aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Thompson: We're recessing until what time?
Unidentified Speaker: 2 o'clock.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, AUTHORIZING THE
ALLOCATION OF HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM FUNDS,
IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $4,409,501, FOR HOUSING PROGRAMS,
FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013, IN THE CATEGORIES SPECIFIED IN
ATTACHMENT "A", ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID
PURPOSES.
11-01096 Summary Form.pdf
11-01096 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01096 Legislation.pdf
11-01096 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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Chair Gort: SP.4.
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP.4 is a resolution allocating the HOME
Investment Partnership Program funds in the projected amount of $4,409,501, for housing
programs, for the year 2012 to 2013. HOME (Home Investment Partnership Program) funds are
usually housing funds, and they are used primarily for down payment assistance program and to
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provide assistance for rental housing development and home ownership development.
Chair Gort: The other question I would like besides you telling us how those funds are utilizes
[sic] and who uses them, if you can also describe how those funds are allocated to the districts,
what are the criterias and guidelines utilized to do that.
Mr. Mensah: These particular funds are not allocated to the district per se.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: I think in the past the City Commission decided that on an annual basis, certain
districts gets about $1.5 million to help them -- the housing in their district, andl believe the last
district was District 1. This year it will be either District 2 or District 4. However, because
we're not sure the district Commissioners are in agreement that we use the funds based on the
needs of either of those two districts, so those amounts are being put in housing activities. And if
there's a need in any of those two districts, those $1.5 million should be used in those districts.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Public hearing is now open. Is anyone in the public would like to
address this issue? Is anyone in the public would like to address this issue? Showing none, close
the public hearings [sic]. Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: Move the item.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, second --
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: -- by Vice Chairman Carollo. Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor,
state it by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2012-2013,
IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $7,503,156 FOR THE ACTIVITIES
SPECIFIED IN ATTACHMENT"A", ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED,
COMMENCING APRIL 1, 2012; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSES.
11-01099 Summary Form.pdf
11-01099 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01099 Legislation.pdf
11-01099 Exhibit 1 SUB.pdf
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo and Spence -Jones
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
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Chair Gort: SP. 5.
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP.5 is a resolution authorizing the
allocation in broad categories of the Community Development Block Grant funds, in the
projected amount of $7.5 million, and the allocations are Public Service, $1.1 million;
Administration, $1.5 million; Code Enforcement, 673,000; Section 108, 558,000; Economic
Development, $3.6 million. I just want to state here for the record that normally when we do
this, any time -- these are projected amounts, and any time that we receive a cut in the CDBG
(Community Development Block Grant) allocation, the cuts will be proportionately applied to
this particular item. Now in the case of code enforcement, this amount is already in the budget,
and the idea is that if there's any cuts, that we make sure that the code enforcement activities
remain at 670,000; otherwise, there will be a hole in the City's budget.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Let me open a public hearing and --
Commissioner Suarez: Sure.
Chair Gort: Is anyone in the public would like to address this issue? Anyone in the public
would like to address this issue? Being none, close the public hearings [sic]. Commissioner
Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to ask one question of Mr.
Mensah, which I think maybe you left out accidentally, which was when we briefed, you had
mentioned if there is a cut in public service funding, that those programs that are administering
elderly meals would not be reduced from last year's amount. Is that accurate?
Mr. Mensah: Yes, that's accurate. We're going to address that in SP.6.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: But that's accurate, yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Thanks.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Mr. Mensah, do we need to approve this?
Mr. Mensah: For the sake of HUD (Department of Housing and Urban Development)
appropriations, yes, it needs to be approved.
Vice Chair Carollo: And you have different categories. You have from Public Service to
Administration to Section 108 to Code Enforcement to Economic Development. Correct?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: And that needs to be approved by the City Commission?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
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Vice Chair Carollo: And if the City Commission makes changes to any one of these categories,
then the Administration should abide by those changes, correct?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: I have a problem, and I'm not trying to blindside you because you know
very well -- as a matter of fact, I brought it to your attention. I showed you. I refreshed your
memory andl showed you.
Mr. Mensah: No problem.
Vice Chair Carollo: But it's once again how this Commission is not respected. We voted
unanimously last time to put $800, 000 from Code Enforcement in a reserve account until
received the information, the financial information that I requested. I have not received the
financial information. Did they receive those $800, 000?
Mr. Mensah: Not exactly. The amount, the 800,000 have not been received by Code
Enforcement. However, the City, as part of their budget process, did approve an allocation for
Code Enforcement and that allocation has been paid out. In terms of the allocation from
Community Development, Community Development funds has been used to reimburse the City's
general fund to a tune of $440, 000. But $800, 000 has not been used.
Vice Chair Carollo: So what you're saying is that we don't need to approve these 670,000 that
you're asking for because if it's in the budget, then there's no need to approve it, because the City
Commission clearly, in a unanimous vote, stated that those $800, 000 should go into a reserve
account and, obviously, they didn't stay in a reserve account. They were actually used.
Mr. Mensah: Not all of it. Some of it has been used.
Vice Chair Carollo: Not all of it.
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: But at least $800, 000, some of it was used without coming back to this City
Commission for approval.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: And once again, my point is, you know, when we take a vote up here, is it
respected by the Administration or not. Not to mention that the reason for putting it in the
reserves is to give ample time for me to receive the information that had requested, which I
never did.
Chair Gort: Let me ask you a question. You're addressing last year's funding or this future
funding coming up?
Vice Chair Carollo: This was -- give me a second. It is my understanding this was introduced
12/8 of 2010, and I have the minutes of that meeting. So it was funding for, you would say, this
current year?
Chair Gort: Past year. That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Gort: Not for next year.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Right, not for next year --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- which is what we're approving.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: But again, you know, it's another example that this Commission takes a vote
and it's not respected. And realistically, those $800, 000, before any amount should be expended,
should have come back to the City Commission for approval and it was not. I have a big
problem with that, a huge problem with that, andl see it recurring. Not to mention that my
questions were not answered. And going further into this, a lot of those questions was 800,000 is
a lot of money -- $800, 000 is a lot of money. What -- how are we allocating those funds? How
are we spending those monies? And realistically -- 'cause I want to make sure that the service
we provide to the public is met, and I'm having issues with that.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: Commissioner, on an annual basis, every September the City Commission
approves the budget for the City ofMiami. As part of the budget, like I indicated, is the fact that
code enforcement activities, including all the other departmental activities, are approved. Now
Chair Gort: George, let me interrupt you for a minute.
Mr. Mensah: Sure.
Chair Gort: I think what the Commissioner is requiring is very simple. He wants to know, like
I'm asking you to explain to the public and to ourself [sic] and to those viewing this, how those
funds are expend. I mean, the Commissioner asked for a report from that Department. They
getting the funds. How are they using, and what are the benefits of those funds to that
community. Now my understanding is part of that is the improvement and the enforcement of the
codes in the area. Part of that is those vacant lots being cleaned up and all that in the
neighborhood that they qualf. At the same time, my understanding is that the houses that need
to be knocked down, demolished, andl think that's what the Commissioner's asking for. He's
asking for information from you that you have not released those funds because he didn 't get his
answer.
Mr. Mensah: Okay. The --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: And ifI may.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'll do it -- let me just put it in very simple terms. And again, I hate to do
this to you, Mr. Mensah, 'cause I'm sure Finance had to do with this, Budget, andl know -- I see
Mr. Alfonso here. I know he was not here at that time. So I hate to do this 'cause I know we
have a whole new financial team. But I'll make it real easy. Mr. Mensah, before any expenditure
of those $800, 000, should it or should it have not come back to this City Commission for
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approval?
Mr. Mensah: When you asked me that question, I said currently, yes. It's an error on our part
and I'll own up to that error. But what I'm (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) 9:49: 25 -- and in CDBG, in the
work that I do, if you make a mistake, you always go back and you undo it. I can go back and
undo this error. Now the effect that it will have on the City's funds, that have no control over,
andl -- and when these payments are made, it doesn't come to Community Development to
approve the salaries of the Code Enforcement. The salaries are approved by budget. It was
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) 9: 49: 53 paid. The only role Community Development plays in this is that
at the end of the year, Community Development transfers the amount that is budgeted into the
City's general fund to make the City general fund whole. This transfer was done in September.
Now if that was done incorrectly in September, we have two months; we can go and undo it, and
then we can come back to City Commission and make the appropriation. In that case, then I
don't know if you close your books or not and what affect it will have on the City -- on the
general funds. You want to address that?
Chair Gort: Wait a minute.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Before we get into that -- because what's happening now is that you're
putting this Commission in a situation that is not the situation that we could have been, which
was analyzing the numbers and seeing where exactly we wanted to go with it and be able to do it
in a prudent manner. Now we're going back and say, yes, because it wasn't done correctly, we
could do this, this, and that. However, it may have circumstances on the current year's budget.
So I want to go back to my question before: Should those $800, 000 -- before spending any of
those $800, 000, should it have come back to the City Commission for approval?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Mensah: The answer -- for reinvestment -- for the reinvestment of this money already spent,
the answer is yes. However, I had no control over how the money got spent.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: That is controlled by Code Enforcement and Budget. My -- Community
Development only reimburses. So whether the Commission comes back and approve it or not,
that money already been spent. The reimbursement portion of it is -- I agree with you,
Commissioner, that it should have come back based on the minutes of the last meeting.
Vice Chair Carollo: So the bottom line is, those 800, 000, before it is spent, should have come
back to this City Commission for approval. If not, then why are we approving, you know, this
670 and all these amounts? Then it doesn't make sense.
Mr. Mensah: I agree with you, Commissioner, the $670, 000 that should have come back to the
City Commission to be reimbursed, to be able to reimburse. Now if it didn't come back, it means
that the City -- if we didn't -- it didn't get reimbursed, then the City will be in the hole. Andl
think that maybe we need to -- the process is what we probably need to discuss because the City's
budget is approved in September. When the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 9: 52:16 values are -- is
approved in September, whatever amount I'm bringing to you has already been taken into
consideration. So if it's the will of the Commission to ensure that this amount is used, then I will
suggest that Code Enforcement budget is not approved in October but rather wait and approve it
today so that if the City Commission decides that they're going to only use $600, 000, then
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$600, 000 is what is used. Right now that amount, $670, 000 we're talking about, has already
been abrogated in the budget. And so if this Commission decide not to approve it right now,
something has to be done with that particular budget. Budget will not be balanced.
Vice Chair Carollo: I understand that's something that we may have to take up because the
bottom line is -- what you're saying is is that we're rubber-stamping this, and last year we did not
rubber-stamp it. Last year, by a vote of the unanimous Commission, what we did was put it into
reserves until we received the numbers and then address that issue and see exactly where is that
money being allocated to. Because in all fairness, this year it's 670; last year it's 800, 000.
That's money that can go into economic development, fixing streets, facade programs, many
issues that you know of and it's not. It's being used for code enforcement. So I want to know
exactly what are we getting for that money? What are we getting for the $800, 000? And that's
part of what requested last year and that's what we put into reserve, that never received the
answer. The money was spent and it never came back to this City Commission. So -- and my
issue with this realistically, is service to the community because I'm having issues in my
community that Code Enforcement is not addressing, you know. In the September 27 meeting --
andl could give you -- yes, the September 27 meeting, I had the director of Code Enforcement in
front of us andl asked him -- and not to put him in the spot. I asked him what is the main
priority with regards to code enforcement in District 3. And not to put him in the spot, I told him
trash. I mean, there's illegal dumping all over District 3, andl could show you pictures, you
know. Moreover, you know, just recently I have a complaint by a resident with regards to
overgrown grass, rats running all over a dirty lot, you know. On November 4 we requested that
something be done and more -- I'll go a step further, actually cut the grass, which has been done
before. On November 4 that request was made. On November 14 we asked for an update.
November 30 we asked for an additional update. We received no answer until a month later, you
know.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: So what happens? The resident thinks, you know what, this district
Commissioner is not doing his job. And no; we actually did our job. We respectfully sent it to
the proper department, you know, as a, you know, request to -- it be, you know, cut like it has in
the past.
Luis Cabrera (Assistant City Manager/Chief of Operations): Commissioner --
Vice Chair Carollo: You know, so I want to know exactly what code enforcement monies are
being spent.
Mr. Cabrera: -- I will --
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Wait a minute.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are you finished?
Vice Chair Carollo: Actually, can I show you some of the pictures of the illegal dumping in
District 3 that I have to actually look at and tackle with every day?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Commissioner.
Chair Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) 9:55: 53.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: I definitely can show the pictures. I don't have a issue with that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Could we --?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just -- while you're loading it up, I just have a -- can I ask a few
questions?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So is it -- the concern that -- you know, the money that's
being -- that -- well, I guess the number -one concern is you -- it should have come back in front
of the Commission. That's the number --
Vice Chair Carollo: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- so that's the number one concern. Andl think that the
Administration has acknowledged that that should have happened, okay. So I'm assuming from
this day on -- all of this stuff predates me coming back, so I'm assuming that this was something
that was voted on prior to me coming. So we have gotten a commitment from the City
Administration that that correction will be made. I'm sure all of us -- I can show you a million
and one lots in Little Haiti, Liberty City, Overtown. We probably would take up the whole
budget, honestly, with the number of vacant and overgrown lots, but I'm not discrediting why
yours are important. But I just want to understand really what the issue is. Is it -- are you more
concerned about it not coming in front of the City Commission for the vote or the support of it?
Or are you more concerned with what the money was actually being used for? And -- or is it
both?
Vice Chair Carollo: It's actually both.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, okay, so that -- So then my question becomes -- I'm
assuming that George has turned it over to -- that the reason why Danny is standing there, it's
more of a budgetary issue. Was this number included? No, it's not.
Daniel Alfonso (Director, Management & Budget): May I?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, let's please clear that up as to --
Chair Gort: Let's finish the presentation --
Mr. Alfonso: Yeah.
Chair Gort: -- because I got a couple of questions, couple of suggestions. Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Could we look at --
Chair Gort: Yes, go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- all illegal dumping in District 3 that --?
Chair Gort: I'll bring my pictures too.
[At this time a PowerPoint Presentation was made.]
Vice Chair Carollo: And any given day you go by East Little Havana, this is what you see.
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[Presentation continued.]
Vice Chair Carollo: We actually have a lot more pictures, andl -- out of courtesy to my
colleagues, I only decided to put a quarter of them. What I mean with this is we have a serious
problem in District 3 with illegal dumping, andl am really trying to tackle this issue andl need
the help of Code Enforcement, andl want to see exactly what they're doing. As a matter of fact,
in all fairness, I requested at the September 27 meeting to receive a list of all the citations that
had been given for these illegal dumping. I think you all received the same thing thatl received,
at least that's what was stated in the e-mail (electronic), and after looking at a long list, which
actually was able to fool a couple of my staff the number that showed was, at the end, 595
citations. The first thingl looked at, guess what? The majority of those address weren't even in
District 3. And instead of 595, when you actually go through the Excel spreadsheet and you go
to the left to see exactly how many there were, there was actually 346, not 595. From those 346,
when you take out all the addresses that weren't in District 3, we're talking roughly in the area of
70, 75. And then when I go into those 70, 75, I really can't tell -- I don't have a citation number
andl really can't tell what's really for illegal dumping or not. So whatl am expressing is that
there is a big issue in District 3. I am definitely trying to tackle it. And when I see funding of
$800, 000 going to code enforcement and now it is requested of us of $670, 000, it's very simple.
All am requesting is how is that money being used. How many officers, how many Code
Enforcement officers are being paid from this amount? What areas are they canvassing? Where
are they focusing? Is it illegal dumping? Because it appears like it's not. And then with that
aside, Commissioner Spence -Jones, yes, it's absolutely wrong that this Commission takes action
and the Administration doesn't respect it. That's absolutely wrong. So besides my issue, yes, I
have a second issue that we're not respected. Our votes up here is not respected and that has to
stop. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Okay. Let me tell you what the problem is, and this is something -- and by the way,
I can show you the daily e-mails that we send out to Code Enforcement and all the pictures that
we have. This is a major problem throughout the whole City ofMiami. Dumping -- the City of
Miami has become the ground for dumping. Now the question's very simple. There's no
communication between our different directors. I mean, I understand George job is to come in
front of us to let us know what it is and then Commissioner request out of certain departments
they're not pleased with how you're spending this funding, where are you spending this funding.
Because according to the rule and regulations, this funding have to be spent in certain
neighborhoods. So George somehow Finance, Communication, Administration we're not talking
to each other. I've seen this problem in many other departments, people not talking to each
other. This is something we have to bring together. Now all the Commissioner requested is code
enforcement -- the whole problem is code enforcement.
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Chair Gort: What have you done with the funding that we've given you? All the requested is
give me a report where we're utilizing this funding from CDBG, what are we doing with this
funding, have we earned these funds? That's all he's requesting. And then he requested before
you come -- you spending the funding, come in front of us if we do not have the answer. If he has
the answer, I'm sure he will not have any problem. Yes, sir.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I was --
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- just waiting for -- So I just want to get clarity, guys. Just -- first
of all, Commissioner Carollo, I commend you on your effort to expose, you know, a couple
issues. One, I think that whatever, you know, we vote on as a Commission and we request,
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should definitely take place, so I don't want to make light of that at all. I think it's extremely
important from day one coming back to the Commission that was one of my, you know, pet
peeves, is if we vote on something or we requestfrom -- something from the staff or
Administration, that should be respected, so I don't want to make light of that. I just -- for me at
the end of day, I just want to -- it's for -- important to get to the bottom of what -- where we are
with it. So I'm assuming, Danny, you can answer the question. First of all, was the funds spent
properly on this issue?
Mr. Alfonso: Okay. Danny Al --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Because that -- to me, that's more of a HUD -related issue, andl
don't want to have a situation where we got money from the -- through the City for the City
Administration in any manner and we did not spend that money properly.
Mr. Alfonso: Danny Alfonso, director ofManagement and Budget. Yes, the money's been spent
in code enforcement, which is an allowed use. The -- and I'm coming in at the tail end of this, so
I'm going to try to explain a little bit about how the budgetary impact of this is. In a sense, the
budget for '10/'11 and that budget for '11/'12 as well for the Office of Code Enforcement has
been constructed with the assumption that some of the salary for Code Enforcement officers is
reimbursed through this program. So in effect, when the Commission approves those budgets for
the Office of Code Enforcement, we know that if that reimbursement doesn't occur into the office,
then that office will overspend its budget, because we need to account for that reimbursement.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Let me ask you, Danny. Are you clear on that, during our
budget briefings, that those dollars are comingfrom that?
Mr. Alfonso: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So in your briefings, I just want to be clear, did you brief all the
Commissioners so that as we went down each one of these items for the departments, were you
clear with each one of the Commissioners that -- you know, even though it didn't come back in
front of the Commission, did you brief the Commissioners on those particular salaries coming
from Community Development included in the budget?
Mr. Alfonso: I do not believe that we got into that specific detail --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Alfonso: -- of the explanation of how the code office is budgeted.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Alfonso: That did not come up in any of the discussions that I can remember.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Alfonso: There was a lot of things discussed --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So that's one issue that could have been addressed during the
overall budgetary process to make sure that it was clear that those positions why we budgeted
them, they were actually comingfrom the federal dollars that we have.
Mr. Alfonso: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So that was -- did you want to add anything else on that?
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Mr. Alfonso: Well, what would like to add is, ifI may take the opportunity to, give me a little
bit of time; I can get together with the Office of Code Enforcement and we can put together a
report as to what those Code Enforcement officers that are under -- being funded by these fund
do, andl know that they operate on a citywide basis and they enforce the code of the City,
including that for illegal dumping and other code violations.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm --
Chair Gort: I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'll yield.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just have a few things.
Chair Gort: Sure, sure. Go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So I just want to be clear. The positions -- I don't know if
it's really a George question or your question. And code enforcement -- because it seems like
this is really all about code enforcement.
Chair Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is there a Code Enforcement staff member here to address the
Commissioner's concerns 'cause that person should be here? Okay.
Mr. Mensah: I understand they've called for their staff person.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So my question then becomes how many positions actually
come from that dollar amount?
Mr. Mensah: Twelve.
Mr. Cabrera: Commissioner, to answer your question, approximately 15 inspector salaries are
paid from that fund.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so 15 people are actually paid from the reimbursement
portion of it?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, all right. And then I'm just curious -- andl don't know if
you're able to address this issue 'cause it sounds like it's more of a code enforcement issue. With
the 15 people that are actually hired or have a position outside of illegal dumping and lot
clearing and all of that, do we know how much work has actually been cleared because of the 15
people that are actually working? Because I also know each one of us Commissioners sitting up
here do not want to have any delays 'cause I know I'm the first one -- when I see a lot and I'm
riding around in my district andl see an overgrown lot, I have a issue with it. I'm calling Code
Enforcement immediately, you know, so -- and we don't want no -- none of us want any time
delays on having it addressed, so do we have any idea of --?
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Mr. Mensah: The code enforcement program, as stipulated in the regulations, is supposed to
assist declining neighborhoods to be able to arrest the decline, and the reason why CDBG funds
actually can be used for that purpose is exactly that. Andl believe in 2008 or 2009 when the
City Commission decided that they wanted to fund code enforcement activities through the use of
CDBG funding, what we did in Community Development is to go and look at the citywide maps
and look at the areas that are eligible, that are declining, that code enforcement activities are
eligible. We took that map, superimpose it on the map of community -- of Code Enforcement
where the officers work and we selected certain areas that are eligible to receive those funding.
So those staff in those areas, they became eligible. Now those are strictly for salaries of the
individuals. What we provide at the end of every quarter and at the end of -- mostly at the end of
the year to HUD is the activities that take place in those areas. And we --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Those targeted areas.
Mr. Mensah: -- rely on the same reports that probably was given to the Commissioner, which
includes -- but HUD is only interested in housing violations. So what we do is that we extract
those housing violations, and the report we provide HUD includes the number of housing
violations that was as a result of those funding, and then we also look at a number of housing
violations that was corrected because the issue is that whenever a violation, you want it to be
corrected --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Mensah: -- so that the whole neighborhood doesn't go down. And those are the numbers
that we provide to HUD based on that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What -- first of all, I think that your explanation is awesome for all
of us because, you know, now you're drilling down to what the real issue is and that is, okay, yes,
we set aside money by way of HUD to take care of these salaries, but we have obligations based
upon those dollars. So it's not like you can just go and say, you know, I want to go pick up -- I'm
just using this -- you know, this lot full of trash if it's not directly related to what the grant or
what the dollars are saying you actually have to do because HUD has already given you the
guidelines of the target areas or target things that you have to do with those dollars. If not, then
it becomes a violation. 'Cause I think it's really important -- when we sit up here, it's really
important -- andl'm just saying this to my fellow colleagues because you got people watching it,
you got people sitting in the audience, and all of our communities are important, andl know my
colleague didn't say which particular communities or district got the most, you know, support
from this amount of money andl'm not really sure why he didn't mention it, butt wouldn't be
surprised if it was District 5 because I know from a HUD perspective District 5 and many of
those communities, like Little Haiti, Liberty City and Overtown and Wynwood, especially Liberty
City, Overtown and Little Haiti are high on HUD's map of target areas that need to be
addressed. So I think that part of this is just communication. When you first started off or when
he first started off and you guys chimed in, it appeared to me, you know, we put money into Code
Enforcement to provide staffing and staffing was identiing the places which were more
important, right? That's kind of what was coming off of it. And the question became, I'm sure
for him, how are these dollars being used and how -- who's making the decision which areas are
most important? Andl think what you just answered was the staff didn't sit and decide okay, this
is what's important; really, federal government or HUD decided these are the target areas --
Mr. Mensah: Based on the criteria.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and this is the reason why the resources went into those
particular areas. So I think it's important perhaps in the future that you present all of that
information so that we're not sitting up here not being clear or being confused about, you know,
staffs commitment to have -- help all of the districts. And I'm going to say this in closing, Mr.
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Chairman. You know, originally, I thought that when these complaints come to resident -- I
mean, come in from residents, usually, you know, these lots that Commissioner Carollo talking
about are lots that I'm assuming that we wait for residents to tell us are issues from 311. So I'm
assuming that you're taking that particular -- those calls and identiing which ones actually fall
in the target area. Is that how it's being addressed through Code Enforcement?
Mr. Mensah: I -- I'm not sure. Code Enforcement question.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so that's really a code enforcement issue. Because that
brings us back to, really, it's not you determining --
Mr. Mensah: No.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- where you need to go. It's based upon the number of complaints
that come by way of 311, which I'm assuming at that point, or from the Commissioner's office, is
how you begin to address the issue.
Mr. Mensah: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So I guess when Code Enforcement comes, we'll get a
greater understanding. But thank you for that further explanation. And I think -- in closing, I
think the biggest thing that the Commissioner's asking for if we request for something before we
vote on it or before money's being spent -- and I'm sure Danny's probably saying on his end,
well, October 1 is when the new budget started. So at the end of the day, that should have
happened really in September sometimes [sic] because you got 12 people that got to go to work.
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You know, so I think that is a part of the overall issue, that it
supports our Administration so things would have actually stopped if that was the case. So with
that being said, I have clarity on what the issues are.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. I want to address a few of the things. And thank you for that,
Commissioner Spence -Jones. There's various issues that I wanted to address, the first one being
as far as the restrictions or the target areas, I can assure you that all this illegal dumping is
within the target area. And to go a little further in that, that's what I requested a year ago -- this
is what I was requesting a year ago. As a matter of fact, not only was it a simple request; it was
actually a vote of this Commission, and we actually put the funds in reserve so we could obtain
all that information.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: So that's how far I went. As far as the fundings [sic], yes, you're right, I
didn't even ask as far as, you know, how much services your district got as opposed to mine. But
I'll tell you what. If you look at the HUD funding now, you'll see District 3 is right behind
District 5. I mean, I'm almost touching you. So there's a great need here. When you mention as
far as an overgrown lot and you want to make sure that you're able to contact Code Enforcement
and they take care of it right away -- I mean, do you think it's acceptable on November 4 we sent
a respectful request to Code Enforcement to address this lot. On November 14 we respectfully
asked for an update. On November 30 we respectfully asked for an update.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: And that's when we find -- a month later is when we finally get something
saying, oh, well, the vendor's not available, this and that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, but Commissioner Carollo, I think --
Vice Chair Carollo: So the truth of the matter is --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- but I think that does -- that means that we need to address it to
Code Enforcement.
Chair Gort: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But as far as this particular issue -- I mean, it's hard for George
and hard for CD (Community Development) to kind of answer those administrative questions
from the standpoint of delivering the service and l just want us to be fair. If nothing else, let's be
fair about how we address the issues. And then I want to be clear with you on the issue -- it
wasn't about the illegal dumping. What I -- the comment that was made on the record was these
particular funds aren't necessarily identified for illegal dumping, even though the staff is hired to
do -- you know, provide the services of code enforcement, what HUD is really looking at is are
we eliminating the housing related issues, whether or not they be abandoned houses, whether or
not they be abandoned lots that are attached to housing. I -- so there is a difference between
somebody deciding to dump a refrigerator or a toilet stool -- a toilet, I'm sorry, on the side of the
road compared to somebody having a burnt -down crack house. There's a big difference between
that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, let's ask.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Andl think that that's what they're speaking of.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, let's ask.
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Am I correct on that? Okay.
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, let's ask.
Chair Gort: Let's speak one at a time.
Vice Chair Carollo: Let's ask and I'll tell you why. Because what's happening -- what really
happens is that we are replacing general fund dollars with these dollars.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's what we're doing.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: So if we are replacing general fund dollars with these dollars and these
dollars cannot address the biggest code enforcement issue that I have in District 3 --
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- then what are we doing? We're not addressing illegal dumping. So my
first question is can these dollars, these CDBG dollars be used for illegal dumping?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I think they can.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But they -- but --
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Mr. Mensah: Mr. Commissioner --
Chair Gort: One at a time. Yes.
Mr. Mensah: -- I respectfully request some times when we are in the public domains, the use of
certain words can make this program ineligible. We are not -- the City -- in my opinion, the City
is not using these money to replace general fund. The City decided that it has needs that
Community Development funds allows it to use, and so we are using these funds to meet the
needs of the City in terms of this sense.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent.
Mr. Mensah: So I just want to put that for the record.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. I accept what you're saying. And I'm -- and then I -- it goes back
to my point. I have a big need in District 3 and that is illegal dumping. And if you want me to
bring the rest of the photographs, we will be here for an hour, I can assure you. So what am
saying is I, as a district Commissioner, am trying to tackle this issue andl am requesting from
the Administration help. And, you know, when I joke around a few times andl say, hey, I'm in
the penalty box, this is what I mean. I mean, I make a friendly request. You know, 30 days later,
after two further, you know, updates is when I get an answer. I mean, and that's when -- when I
joke around, that's what mean, I'm in the penalty box. I mean -- and this isn't right, because the
one who's hurting is the residents.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: And then they come back to me and say, Commissioner, are you doing your
job? I say, no, no, here. It's the Administration that I keep complaining about.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So resolution, what's the resolution?
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think this code enforcement issue has been
a frustration for the last two years since we've been here. We've tried in a variety of different
ways and forms to address some of these issues. I think we really need to spend some time on
this. Maybe this is not the appropriate moment, but we need to spend some time, either a
discussion item, a sunshine meeting, a special meeting, whatever we have to do. One of the
frustrations that I have is the difference between enforcement and compliance. We can enforce
the code all we want, and his frustration is over enforcement in that particular example. But
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there's a difference between enforcement and compliance. I just -- the Code Enforcement just
gave someone a fine yesterday, I think, for an illegally parked truck in a house on 15th Street
and 34th Avenue, but that doesn't mean that person's going to move the truck. So we need to
start figuring out ways to force very -- you know, very -- properties that are very noncompliant
with the code -- that are continually noncompliant with the code to become compliant, not just to
enforce the code. That's something else we have to look at. But with relation to this issue, my
question is we had allocated $800, 000 for demolition and we had allocated) believe $800, 000
for code enforcement. Those are two separate allocations, is that correct?
Mr. Alfonso: That's correct, Commissioner.
Commissioner Suarez: And don't see here any funds for demolition. So what you're saying is
we still have funds remaining for demolitions or we don't have to reallocate funds for
demolition? That's all the questions I have. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Let me tell you. I think you all receive copy. I had some pocket items last meeting,
which I asked the Administration what is the follow-up that's being done in the decisions that we
took here at the City Commission. I believe you all received part of the answer from the
Administration. And one of the major problems that we have is illegal dumping, property, vacant
properties. That's creating a lot of problems to the whole City ofMiami. This is one issue that)
think we need to address, have a special meeting on this. This got to be part of the agenda of our
next meeting. The Administration, we got a task that we got to take care of. I don't know how
many departments we're going to have to put together, but we have to do it. We got to keep a
clean city. At the same time, the issue today is the Commissioner had a request and this one
department has not answered his request. Code Enforcement, let me know where you're spending
the money, what are you doing with that money, and why is not the illegal dumping being deal
with. He needs that report. And my understanding is at this time action were taken without the
Commission compliance. I'd like for George to give me -- and this is part of the issue today and
I'm glad, Commissioner, you brought it up because this is good for the Administration. We all
getting together on this. We have to work on it. You got to get -- your directors got to be talking
to each other. We have all these computers. I don't know how many millions we spend in
computer. Somehow there's got to be a check and balance in all this. It can't be independent
constantly. The different department, they're completely independent. We need to coordinate
that. Let me finish. I think today our actions is we need from George and the Administration
what is the action we're going to be taking for what happened before and what are we going to
do to -- make in our motion -- we can put any amendment that we like to put in this motion to
make sure that this does not happen again. Andl think the Administration needs to get the
message, this Commission is following up and it wants to make sure it gets answered.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Just out of curiosity, is the director of Code Enforcement here?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. We just said he wasn't here yet.
Chair Gort: No.
Vice Chair Carollo: I mean, I know ifI was the head of some department and there 's funding
being allocated to my department, I'd be on top of it because that's a lot of money. So I ask that
question to the assistant City Manager, do you feel that the director of Code Enforcement should
be present since it's $670, 000 allocated to his department?
Mr Cabrera: The director is not here. The assistant director's en route. The director's attending
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a course today. The assistant director will be here. To answer some of your questions, as you
know, the illegal dumping situation is a multi -prong issue. It's also based on actions taken by the
police, actions taken by Code Enforcement, and also, you know, education. So I agree with you,
we need to take proactive measures. I agree with you, we will provide you with all the
information that's needed. We work in every district. We will continue working in every district.
Andl will ensure you that we're going to go ahead and take a more aggressive and proactive
approach in dealing with not only illegal dumping; with whatever concerns you have.
Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Chairman, and that concern primarily is illegal dumping. And
what want to make clear is that don't want Code Enforcement going out there and trying to
ticket everyone for every low -hanging fruit there is. In other words, maybe the car is too close to
the sidewalk or whatever. I want them to tackle what really is the issue in District 3 and that's
illegal dumping.
Mr. Cabrera: Commissioner, I assure you that if I'm given the time and we meet, I will sit with
each and every one of you. We'll look at what's important in your areas. We'll put together a
comprehensive plan which will compose of both internal and external resources and we will
address it. This is -- nor yourself nor any Commissioner, as long as I'm around and my boss is
around, we will not blackball or do anything that undermines you. We will address the issues
and we will ensure that the information that you request is given to you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. I appreciate that. Because you know I will bring it up here in
City Commission andl will definitely make light of it. Now with that said, there's also another
issue with regards to us making a, you know, respectful request with regards to a resident that
has an overgrown lot next to his house, rats running around. I've been there personally. I have
seen it. And we don't get a response from Code Enforcement for about a month later. I mean, I
think that's unacceptable. So I wish the City Manager would have been here so, you know, this
could be discussed because we need to remedy this issue.
Mr. Cabrera: Commissioner, the Code Enforcement Department, as I'm -- I'm the ACM
(Assistant City Manager) that oversees that department. I assure you once again and guarantee
you that we will get back with you and provide you the information you've requested. And if the
Administration is not doing what needs to be done, I assure you that will take whatever
measures necessary to correct those actions, okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Gort: If you recall, part of my pocket item was that. My understanding is there's supposed
to be -- one of the biggest problems that we have, some of those property has lien for 200, 000,
$500, 000, more than the value of the property itself. We discussing it. We requested from the
Law Department, from -- there's a way that we can collect this fund and maybe collecting those
funds we can utilize those funds to remedy some of this problem. At this time, I have a motion
and a second. Now my understanding is no further funding could be utilized until we get an
answer from Code Enforcement. Now we need an amendment to this --friendly amendment to
this motion that's on the floor today.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: We do not have a motion --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Motion.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- on the floor.
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Ms. Thompson: That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: And --
Chair Gort: Okay, my apologies.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- I will make the motion --
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- to approve SP.5 with, once again, the way it should have been done last
year with the only difference of putting the $670, 000 of code enforcement activity into a reserve
account until we receive the information that has been requested, we actually see exactly what's
the target areas, what is the actual activities that this monies can be used for. Now -- andl know
Commissioner Spence -Jones is going to have a question, and I'm going to jump the gun 'cause it
might be the same question. Will this affect any services whatsoever of code enforcement?
Chair Gort: No.
Mr. Mensah: Your question, will it affect any services of code enforcement?
Vice Chair Carollo: If we put this in a reserve account right now. It didn't last year, so I don't
see why it would this year.
Mr. Mensah: Well --
Vice Chair Carollo: And then --
Mr. Mensah: -- and --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That's really a budget question.
Chair Gort: Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- have it come back to this Commission for approval once we get all those
answers.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, you did read my mind, so. Budget --
Chair Gort: All right.
Ninoshka Reyes (Assistant City Attorney): Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- that's a budget question. Can we get a answer from Budget?
Mr. Mensah: It's not --
Chair Gort: My understanding is, Administration -- a motion has been made. Is there a second?
Ms. Thompson: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I don't want to second until get an answer. I'm waiting for him
-- budget to tell me. Is this going to -- I don't want to second something --
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Chair Gort: I'll give you the answer. Commissioner Jones [sic], if you allow me.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You can give it to me.
Chair Gort: We are requesting that the services continue. You get the funding from general
funds, from whoever you have to get, but you cannot discount the services. You have to continue
the services. Okay.
Mr. Mensah: Let me ask a question then.
Commissoner Spence -Jones: But that's not --
Chair Gort: Without -- no, no. My understanding is, the City out of general funds can pay for
this. If they come to us, they show us how they use the funding, the City can get reimbursed once
we decide to do so. Yes, sir, go ahead and answer.
Mr. Mensah: Well, I think you probably --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Budget.
Mr. Alfonso: Danny Alfonso, director ofManagement and Budget. We can continue to do the
operation and temporarily fund it with general fund, but if this Commission later comes back and
says we're not going to release this grant funding, then we have a gap --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Got a problem.
Chair Gort: You have a gap.
Mr. Alfonso: -- in the general fund. So under the assumption that you will get the right reports
and you will agree with it, then temporarily we can fund the operation. But if we don't suspend
the activity, we're spending money.
Vice Chair Carollo: And we're not suspending the operation. Andl'll give you the answer. 171
give you the answer, Commissioner Spence -Jones. From a year ago, from a year ago, I'll give
you the answer and right here. Andl do want to make sure that my colleagues know that it's not
going to jeopardize anything right now in the current budget. And we can always bring it back
and make changes and so forth. So really, it's not going to hurt this at all, unless in the future we
actually don't allocate that money back into Code Enforcement. Andl'll go a step further. We
didn't do it last year. It never came back to this Commission and it didn't affect anything.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, I know. But part of the issue right now -- the reason why
we're having this discussion is to correct the problem.
Chair Gort: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly.
Unidentified Speaker: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So what -- I just want to be clear -- I'm going to second your
motion, but want to second it with the understanding that, you know, from the Budget director,
that we don't have an issue because now, technically, we won't see you until January. So I want
to make sure that whoever those employees are that are going to be working, I don't want that to
be an issue because now you have to wait till you come back in front of the City Commission to
give a report on how the money's spent, where it's spent, who it's spent on, and all of that. So
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you have a second from me. That's not an issue. I just don't want people's jobs to be in jeopardy
around us trying to figure out or wait for that information, and that's my concern. So you have
the second.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: At the present time, it is not in jeopardy. And I'm going back to the same
exact discussion we had a year ago.
Ms. Reyes: Mr. Chairman, ifI may.
Chair Gort: There's a motion and there's a second.
Ms. Reyes: Mr. Chairman, before the vote is taken, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Reyes: We had asked that -- this is a projected amount, and we had asked that when this
allocation be made, that these funds would not be subject to the projected cut from HUD; that
these funds would get paid first, and we need to make that as part of the motion so that -- there's
a projected 11 percent cut --
Chair Gort: Wait a minute.
Ms. Reyes: -- and this is a projected amount we're using from last year.
Chair Gort: I understand that. But the funds right now, that they're being utilized, that the
existing funds that were passed before. This is not next year's budget.
Ms. Reyes: Yes, this is next --
Chair Gort: Doesn't this begin in April?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. But this is next year's budget beginning April 1.
Chair Gort: No. I'm -- this is a different -- this is for next year's budget, what we're approving
today. What we're talking about, this is we're going to hold, but we're taking about the money
left from last year's budget --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, that's what he's talking about.
Chair Gort: That's what we're talking about.
Mr. Mensah: No, no, no, no. We're talking -- the years overlap. So we're talking about the
budget from April I going.
Chair Gort: Right.
Mr. Mensah: Already in the City's budget they assume that they're going to get the $673, 000.
Chair Gort: I got you. I understand. Okay. Do you all understand?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
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Chair Gort: Okay. So what --
Ms. Reyes: Are we clear?
Chair Gort: -- you want to add the amendment?
Ms. Reyes: Yes. The amendment being that the 670 being allocated towards the now reserve
account, right, as part of the motion --
Chair Gort: Right.
Ms. Reyes: -- not be subject to the projected 11 percent cut; that those monies be used -- be
untouched in the reserve and that the rest of the allocations are subject to a pro rata share of the
cut. Is that clear?
Vice Chair Carollo: No, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I thought these monies already reflect
the cuts.
Mr. Mensah: No.
Ms. Reyes: No.
Mr. Mensah: No, Commissioner.
Chair Gort: These are projections.
Vice Chair Carollo: These monies do not reflect the cuts?
Mr. Mensah: No.
Vice Chair Carollo: They're projections?
Mr. Mensah: They're projections, yes.
Chair Gort: They're projections on the cuts that you're expecting.
Commissioner Suarez: Based on last year, right?
Mr. Mensah: We -- based on what has already been approved by Congress, we expect that there
will be some percentage cut in the neighborhood of 10 to 11 percent.
Chair Gort: So in putting this budget together, you have taken that in consideration?
Mr. Mensah: No. We --
Chair Gort: Those cuts are going to take place.
Mr. Mensah: It's going to take place, but we can't take into consideration because the regulation
does not allow us to. The regulation only allow us to use the current year's amount, and if any
cuts come, then there -- we'll have to go back and adjust our numbers. And that's the reason why
the resolution says that it's projected and that if there is any cut, there will be a pro rata share of
the cuts across board. And what this amendment is saying is that because the $670, 000 has
already been budgeted in this year's Code Enforcement budget, rather than have a pro rata cut,
that we should have a direct allocation of $670, 000 from whatever amount we get.
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SP.6
11-01102
Department of
Community
Development
Chair Gort: Okay. Do you all understand what these amendments will do? This amendment
will do of all the total fundings that will come to this use, all they'll be cutting according to the
discount from the -- that we receive from HUD, except this one from Code Enforcement.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. My motion will be approval of SP.5 with $670, 000 going to the reserve
account for later -- coming back to this Commission once we receive the information and that
money is -- will maintain at 670,000 regardless of any cuts.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second with amendments.
Chair Gort: It's been -- any -- yes, ma'am.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair. Before you go on and take the vote, may I please have the
assistant City attorney state her name for the record?
Ms. Reyes: I'm sorry. Sasha Reyes.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Ms. Reyes: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. All in favor, state it by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF PROGRAM YEAR
2012-2013, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, IN THE
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $1,300,000 IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CATEGORY, TO THE AGENCIES SPECIFIED IN ATTACHMENT "A,"
ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED AND THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF
$2,357,051.40 TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESERVE ACCOUNT, FOR A TOTAL
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $3,657,051.40, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ACTIVITIES FOR PROGRAM YEAR2012-2013; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, WITH SAID AGENCIES, FOR SAID PURPOSES.
11-01102 Summary Form.pdf
11-01102 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01102 Legislation.pdf
11-01102 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-11-0487
Chair Gort: SP. 6.
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George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP. 6 is authorizing the allocation of $1.3
million in the economic development to the following agencies, and the agencies are Allapattah
Business Authority, $120, 000; Contractors Resources, $80, 000; FAMN (Fanm Ayisyen Nan
Miyami), $50,000; Neighbors and Neighbors, $150, 000; Rafael Hernandez, $50,000; City of
Miami Economic Development Reserves, 850,000 -- sorry, City ofMiami Facade Improvement
Hard Costs, $850, 000; and District Economic Development Reserves, $2, 357, 051. I just want to
state for the record that usually when we use the word l'conomic development reserves,'ive use --
those are unallocated funds to be allocated at a future date.
Vice Chair Carollo: So --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry. Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: So we don't have to necessarily make the decision right now. In the future
we can make a decision to use those funds?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct, Commissioner.
Chair Gort: That's correct. Would you go into details, once again, how those funds are being
utilized.
Mr. Mensah: Economic development funds is -- economic development is a broad category of
CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) programs where we provide assistance to
for profit businesses, assistance to microenterprise business. We can do commercial facades as
well as even code enforcement by its activities, also called economic development activities. We
can also use it for park improvements. We can use it for infrastructure improvement. So those
are all economic development activities. Andl know that certain Commission districts use it for
street repavement. The allocation is made currently mostly for facade economic development
activities for for -profit entities, which is basically job creation, and then you have
microenterprise assistance. So that's what we use those funds for.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you. Public hearing is opened. Anyone would like to address this
issue?
Grady Muhammad: Good morning. Grady Muhammad, CEO (Chief Executive Officer),
Miami -Dade First, 5426 Northwest 7th Avenue. Just to digress real quickly. For the last issue, I
didn't get an opportunity to speak. Every department and every organization that gets funding,
they have to have quarterly reports, monitoring reports, so you all have to ask where is the
reports. That -- departments get funding just like these nonprofit agencies that get funding and
business get funding, they have to give quarterly reports on their successes or failures of what
they're doing. Code enforcement can be able to easily get done with the money. We have
neighborhood stabilization funds that can be used for code enforcement as well as demolition.
So we have solutions. Andl know with Model City, specifically District 5 and Ms. Karen
Kitchen, the NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team) administrator, we took Code Enforcement
out of the NET offices. They need to be back in the NET offices so where they could be able to do
it. They had (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 10: 38:14, they got to come back. But specifically with
District 5, they want -- the Commission has the authority from the State to be able to allow Code
Enforcement to be able to go ahead and cut the grass and do those things and put those liens
that we're talking about and be able to get those funds on it. One property we have is 742
Northwest 62nd Street. That building is next to the Walgreens. You can look through it and sees
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the sky. It's been there for almost ten years vacant like that. Code Enforcement keep citing and
citing. It's talking about the compliance. There is no compliance. We need to start knocking
those things down and putting those liens on it. But we have Community Development Block
Grant through neighborhood stabilization for land banking, demolition, new construction, and
so we need to start coordinating all of these services compared to what we're doing, speaking for
economic development specifically. We have to be able to ensure these monies go towards the
residents and the businesses and the organizations that need them. We have to make sure they're
on the street. We can put them in reserves. That's nice and dandy. But with the need for
economic and the need for development and the need for business assistance, we shouldn't have
this money sitting around because every year we keep -- we putting money into reserve -- in the
reserves, but again, what is happening with the economic development, the business
development. This is where the money needs to be, on the street. Thank you, Mr. Chairman,
Commissioners.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Leroy Jones: Leroy Jones, 180 Northwest 62nd Street, Neighbors and Neighbors Association. I
just wanted to take a minute to thank the staff thank all the review panel people that sat on the
review panel and reviewed and scored all the applications. I know it was competitive process. I
know it was time-consuming. So I just wanted to thank this body, City staff as well as the people
that sit on the review panel. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone else in the public would like to address this
issue? Being none, close it. Public hearing.
Commissioner Suarez: Move the item.
Chair Gort: Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second. Discussion.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Spence -Jones. Yes,
ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I definitely want to
commend staff for, you know, doing an awesome job. Much of this, like the next item we're going
to vote on, was kind of done before I got back, so a lot of the motion was all -- all of this stuff
was in motion, so I'm really just kind of following up on whatever was already I guess through
the process in which CD (Community Development) has -- was already kind of gone through
already, so I just want to be clear on that. But I do want to acknowledge Brother Grady's
comment. I do think that, you know, the Code Enforcement -- andl know that that -- from an
Administration standpoint, we moved away from that a few years ago. But there was beauty in
having Code Enforcement operate out of the NETs because you would have immediate attention
happen for areas or in areas that really needed attention immediately. So I know that kind of
addresses Commissioner Carollo's issue. If you had a Code Enforcement officer that was
already within one of your NET offices, there would not be a question as to whether or not it got
done because your NET administrator would make sure it got done. So I think that that's
something, as time goes on, we should definitely reconsider, so I want to at least acknowledge
Grady on that. I would like to make sure from the administrative side, George side -- I know that
with me coming back, one of the main things that I wanted to kind of launch off is this whole
cultural corridor initiative which highlights Liberty City, Overtown, Wynwood and Little Haiti,
and of course, part of my district on the river for the fisherman's wharf. I just want you -- if
there's any additional dollars that are left -- I'm working already with FANM and already Leroy
-- I just saw him a few seconds ago -- for us to make sure that we create projects that are actually
going to stimulate the economies in the neighborhoods. I think it's extremely important. So I'm
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going to ask that once this process is done, that we -- you come back with recommendations if
there's some resources available for us to put in organizations in those areas to kind of promote
cultural corridors. And then last but not least, and I've said this in my meetings with the
agencies that I fund throughout my district from a sustainable side of it, we have to come up with
a sustainability plan to address these small businesses, George, because every year the
businesses really rely on those funds for them to survive. But as we move forward, we got to
figure out a way to at least have them building some sort of sustainability plan so it's not always
relying on government to cover these costs. And you already know this, that every year HUD is
reducing the amounts. So I'm going to ask as we move forward that every small business that we
give dollars to, that there's some sort of sustainability plan with, you know, whatever allocation
through our agencies that support it because if not, I'm not really helping them grow or building
them. I'm keeping them in the position where they're constantly relying on these resources, which
is not good for them. So I'm just going to ask that you also include that. With that being said,
that was my only comment.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Let me tell you. When I first got elected, the NET office had the
compliance -- police compliance inspectors and they worked as a team because they were in the
neighborhoods and they knew -- they were driving around within the same neighborhood. I think
that's very important. I think the Administration should consider -- I don't know it was taken out
of the NET office, but I think it -- you should look into putting it back into it. Okay, any further
discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
SP.7 RESOLUTION
11-01101
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Community ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION FOR PROGRAM YEAR
Development 2012-2013 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, IN THE
PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $595,477, IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE CATEGORY,
TO THE AGENCIES SPECIFIED IN ATTACHMENT "A", ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, AND THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $529,996.40 TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC
SERVICE RESERVE ACCOUNT, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1,125,473.40,
FOR PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES COMMENCING JULY 1, 2012;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, WITH SAID AGENCIES, FOR SAID
PURPOSE.
11-01101 Summary Form.pdf
11-01101 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01101 Legislation.pdf
11-01101 Exhibitl SUB.pdf
11-01101-Submittal-Grady Muhammad.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Spence -Jones, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this
matter be ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-11-0488
Chair Gort: RP.7 [sic].
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP.7 is your -- authorizing the allocation
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of 2012-2013 Community Development Block Grants for public service in the amount of
$595,477 in the categories of the agencies that was attached. I want to say here for the record
that the 595,477 were the amounts that we advertised during the 30-day period and that after
that, certain districts have already made their allocation. So at this point maybe it will be better
if the districts put their allocation on the record so that I can give the total amount that each
organization will be receiving.
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: IfI may, I wanted to give the allocations for District 3, and again, it doesn't
mean that this is -- has to be done everything today. We could always bring this back, but I want
to give me allocations. I want to make sure that all of the organizations that I funded in the past
could be made whole as much as possible. So the first allocation will be Catholic Charities of
the Archdiocese ofMiami, Inc., Sagrada Familia, Inc. Child Care Center, $18, 795; Centro
Mater Child Care Services, $14, 750; Josefa Perez de Castano Kidney Foundation, 2,500; Little
Havana Activity [sic] and Nutrition Centers of Dade County, $131, 705; and the Association of
[sic] Development of the Exceptional, Inc., $6, 720. That's to make all of them whole at least for
my district, from what I -- from my part. The only one that is missing is Regis House, and you've
mentioned that there was an issue with that, so if you could elaborate on that.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, Commissioner. Regis House, as you know, we -- Regis has had allocation this
year, and on November 23 we received a request from Regis House to change their work
program and move the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 10: 46: 20 to Melrose -- move the location of their
service to Melrose Elementary School, 3050 Northwest 35 Street. And Commissioner, that is
right outside the City limits.
Vice Chair Carollo: So it will not be eligible if it's outside City limits?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. And -- okay. And that's all I have at least for right now. And that's
to make as much as possible from my end all the organizations whole. There is also the funding
that this Commission set aside with regards to aiding some of these other organizations. I think
it was to the tune of $362, 000. It's in a non -- $362,000 is in Nondepartmental.
Mr. Mensah: That's --
Vice Chair Carollo: And --
Mr. Mensah: -- correct, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- you know, I don't know if any other Commissioners want to add to it, but
maybe later we could mention with regards to exactly how we're funding that, andl think -- I
don't know if all the Commissioners received the allocations.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Commissioner, if I may.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman. Yeah, what the Commissioner is referring to is what has been
historical, the citywide, or what they say, the Mayor's Poverty Initiative. And in consultation
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with every district and the staff and myself we proposing -- and this, you don't vote on this today,
on the poverty initiative, because it's only a draft. We have to wait for January in order to
understand if we are going to be cut or how much are we going to be cut by HUD (Department
of Housing and Urban Development). We will know that in January. But just to mention -- and
the idea is to make all these groups whole as they were last year. And by following that,
Allapattah Community Action will receive $100, 871; Catholic Charities, Malcolm Ross, which is
UTD, 4,045; Centro Mater Child Care Services, 27,000; Curley's House, 8,979; De Hostos
Senior Center, 28,300; Fifty -Five Years Up, 9,830; Little Havana Activities and Nutrition
Centers of Miami -Dade County, 60,962; Sister and Brothers Forever, 25,148; Southwest Social
Services Program, 39,566; Sunshine For All, 25,148. This covers all the five districts. There are
citywide agencies, plus district agencies. I just wanted to put it on the record, although you
won't be voting on this column. You will be voting on the other column. But Commissioner's
right, this is talking to different district how do we reach last year's budget. And ifI may, Mr.
Chairman, since we are here in front of many community agencies, we really need the help of the
agencies and the community. Next week two members of this Commission -- Vice Chair,
Commissioner Suarez, myself -- will be traveling to Washington again to plead and lobby for
Congress to pass the waiver that we're seeking in order to resolve this issue. As you know, social
services are under attack in Washington by both the Administration and the Congress, and we
just need to get those waiver. And I, you know, commend the Commission because you've been
taking the time and doing a lot of lobbying and hopefully on Tuesday we will be able to know
more about this in Washington. But it's important that the people here will communicate to their
Congress representative, either Senate or House, in order to support what has become -- and
actually, I have to say that what originated here has become a national bill. So it started with a
City ofMiami but now in the form of the bill, it would cover the whole nation.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for that, Mr. Mayor. That's, you
know, a resolution that brought to this Commission and got full support, and it's something
that is extremely important for all these great agencies. It's a flexibility from 15 percent to 25
percent and all we're requesting is flexibility. I'm very confident that we're going to be able to
achieve this, but we still need to be speak to our -- the senators and continue our vigilance and
make sure that they're on board, our representative, congressmen. And with that said, I
understand that the amounts for the $362, 000 to aid some of these organizations, we are not
being -- are not being voted on right now, but I just wanted to make sure that some of those
organizations know that this money has been allocated. And Commissioner Spence -Jones, I
know that requested to know exactly how it was going to be spent. During budget time it was
3: 20 in the morning, but now we're seeing how, you know, some of the funds will be allocated,
and I just wanted to put it on the record so -- of these estimates so that these agencies know that,
you know, they will be receiving some of these funding.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Suarez: Go ahead. I'll yield 'cause I'm going to read mine so just --
Chair Gort: He'll yield to you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm glad that we're not
actually voting on the item today. I did not get the breakdown that you just mentioned and
maybe it was, you know, passed on to my office and we just did not have -- I didn't receive it. But
I would like to discuss further. I know a few of the agencies that you mentioned in there. I know
the need is much greater, andl can mention one of them right now which is in here today, is
Curley's House. So they don't necessarily just serve my district. We know they serve the entire
district and --
Unidentified Speaker: Citywide.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. -- I'm not really sure whether or not -- what the, you know,
past Administration from our office gave towards it because I understand that Commissioner
Carollo is only making sure we keep things whole from last year, but I know the need is much
greater than that, so I'm not really even sure how we even got to that number last year. But I
want to move fast forward to definitely be able to sit down and chat with you and hopefully have
the support of my Commissioners that we definitely need to, you know, look at that number. On
the side of the De Hostos Center, I'm glad that you were able to, you know, address that issue. I
just want to make sure that -- I guess between the allocation that we have that we're going to talk
about through CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) funding and the funding that
you're giving now, we're at least making sure that they remain at the same level because, again,
even though it's in my district, it does service, you know, Allapattah -- it serves a whole bunch of
other areas. And we all have visited the center. They're right in the heart of Wynwood, and we
need to make sure that they also have their same support. So afterwards, if you don't have a
problem, sir, I really would like to sit down --
Mayor Regalado: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and hopefully have the support of my district Commissioners on
this issue.
Mayor Regalado: Right.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mayor Regalado: And Commissioner, I just want to say that you andl, for four years, struggled.
I think that this -- you know, to tell you the truth, this is probably the most difficult Commission
meeting in the year.
Chair Gort: It is.
Mayor Regalado: Forget about budget, because this is about the needs of the people ofMiami
and there is so much money. And the good thing is that you all have some reserves in your
public service and it's prudent because we don't know how much are going to be cut. But you're
right, you -- you know, your office has a proposal of allocation for Curley's, and what we tried to
do is to go back to last year, but we need to have the staff and if you allow myself consult with
you --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mayor Regalado: -- to understand --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And I'm open to that. Andl know you --
Mayor Regalado: Right.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- both organizations you fully support, so I ---
Mayor Regalado: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and the Commission fully supports --
Mayor Regalado: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- so I don't think that's the issue. It always boils down to what?
Money.
Mayor Regalado: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And whether or not we have the resources to make it happen.
Mayor Regalado: Okay. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mensah --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: -- could you go into the details --? Yes. I'm sorry, Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to read my allocations. And,
again, this is essentially the same effort to maintain our agencies whole with the caveat or with
the representation that was made by Mr. Mensah that those organizations which are serving
elderly meals will be held intact notwithstanding the 11 percent potential cut.
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah, director of Community Development. That was exactly what we
attempted to do. However, with the amount that is remaining and not knowing how the amount
is cut is, I really can't guarantee at this point because the -- what we wanted to do was not to
even discuss this here today; just to wait until the whole amount comes out so we can know how
to handle it. However, since we put this on the record, we have $32, 000 left, and $32, 000 is not
enough to absorb a 10 percent cut in CDBG funding for all the elderly meals. So I just wanted --
so yes, we will try as much as possible to make them whole, but there probably will be maybe 4, 5
percent cuts that we probably cannot help.
Chair Gort: Mr. Mensah, let me ask you a question. Could you go through the seven -- through
the specific and the allocations you have made?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. I was going to do that.
Chair Gort: Would you go over it, please?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. I also want --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Mensah, can you clarify when will we know exactly?
Mr. Mensah: We expect that sometime in January. Maybe middle of January we'll know exactly
when.
Commissioner Suarez: May I just --?
Chair Gort: Sure.
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Commissioner Suarez: Okay. So on the basis of what you said and with the understanding and I
want the public to understand what the impact of the things that you're saying is, we're going to
do everything that we can not only in trying to get the exemption but in finding money from
everywhere basically, from any nook and cranny that we can to ensure that our elderly meals
program, in particular, is not impacted. But let me just go ahead and read my list of allocations,
and it's in keeping with the same spirit of my colleagues, which is, for District 4, I'm going to
allocate $3, 509 to Centro Mater Child Care Services, Inc.; $6, 287 to Josefa Perez de Castano
Kidney Foundation for elderly meals; 19,951 to Little Havana Activities and Nutrition Center;
$86,173 to Southwest Social Services, which has a corresponding allocation from the Mayor's
poverty initiative, and that's something that we had talked about in our briefings to maintain
them whole. Sunshine For All, $75, 443, and the Association for the Development of the
Exceptional, $21, 689.
Mr. Mensah: Okay. I wanted to say that the --
Chair Gort: Could you go through the whole list, please?
Mr. Mensah: That's what I was going to do.
Chair Gort: Please. Thank you.
Mr. Mensah: I want to say here that the entire -- the list that was just mentioned by the
Commissioner of District 4 has already been advertised. I'm just going to add the one that we
did not advertise, which is first before I can give the total.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: District 2 additional allocation, which was not advertised, is Catholic Charities
Centro Hispano is 5,470; Catholic Charities Archdiocese Malcolm Ross is 12,134. The next one
is Coconut Grove Cares is 10,000; Coconut Grove Collaborative, 5,000, De Hostos Senior
Center, 80, 541; KIDCO, 6,286; Little Havana Activity Center, $13, 967, and St. Alban's $10, 000.
So I'm now going to read the total allocation that each agency is getting -from CDBG -- sorry,
I'm reminded, the second page, Liberty City Optimist -- no, sorry, Association for Retired, 5,000
-- 11,757 for Theodore Roosevelt. So the total for each agency, including the advertised amounts
and the one I put in the record, will be Allapattah Community Action, $213, 000; Catholic
Charities, Centro Hispanic $5, 470; Malcolm Ross, 12,134; Notre Dame, 7, 000; Catholic
Charities, Sagrada Familia, 32,375; Centro Mater, 18,259; Coconut Grove Cares, 10,000;
Coconut Grove Collaborative, 5,000; Curley's House, 30,000; De Hostos, 86, 541; FAMN (Fanm
Ayisyen Nan Miyami, Inc.), 10,000; Fifty Years and Up, 8,150; Jose [sic] Perez, 8,787; KIDCO,
18, 861; Little Havana Activity Center, 165,623; Regis House, 6,000, which is already removed
so it will be zero; SaintAlban's, 10,000; Southwest Social Services, $86,173, Sunshine For All,
$74, 443; the Association for Development of the Exceptional, 37, 889; the Sundari Foundation,
58,000; Theodore Roosevelt, 11,757; Urgent, Inc., 12,500; Web Literacy, 13,000; and we have a
reserve -- we have some reserve amounts -- some allocated funds which will be allocated at a
later date. So those are the amounts.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. We'll now close the -- open the public hearing.
Grady Muhammad: Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Again, Grady Muhammad, CEO (Chief
Executive Officer) ofMiami-Dade First. We have to take in consideration for historical
organizations like Dr. Helena andADE (Association for the Development of the Exceptional),
Little Havana, but we have to also take in the new organizations, like Curley's House. And the
capacity building or the lack of capacity building that is being funded to them for $30, 000 and
looking at the numbers that I received from CD for Action -- Allapattah Action Agency, Little
Havana, and just recently, the numbers were served was 111 people in July, 119 people in
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August. Curley House serve that many people in a week, period, point blank. Community
Development in December or November 2009 gave Curley's House, 1302 Northwest 54th Street,
the old high-, low price supermarket. They also included a $60, 000 debt taxes -- back taxes on it
and a $535 water bill. Now nonprofits has no money, so how you going to include -- to give a
person a building and then include taxes, back taxes that they didn't create, a water bill that they
didn't create, and to be able to expect them to be able to close on a deal because that was the
predication -- that was the prerequisite for them being able to get the building. Now we've used
affordable housing trust fund to pay $1.3 million on back payments to loans. We used that to pay
back taxes on properties. Why haven't we got creative with the affordable housing trust fund to
help build the capacity for Curley's House to be able to expand and to be able to continue to
accept the residents that they're doing, especially in light ofJESCA, James E. Scott Community
Association? That business got destroyed by former Commissioner Dorrin Rolle. Curley's
House had to pick up those elderlies and those seniors. If we're going to talk about helping the
elderly and senior, we got to be able to do it across the board. Thirty thousand dollars when
others are getting two hundred and thirty, others are getting hundred and ninety-seven thousand.
We have to have parity. Again, especially since District 5 census tracks demographics, density to
poverty and poverty statistics bring down the federal revenue sharing. So we just want a fair
share and that's all we requested. We're not against anything or against any other district
organization, all of them. But I think finally, Mr. Chairman and Mr. Vice Chair, we had the
Citywide Advisory Board, 1996 to 1999, prior to that. That's the board that the federal
regulation 570.204 with citizens participation. That's a committee and a board that needs to
deal with these and vet these applications and vet this thing first. Your brother, Vice Chairman
Carollo, appointed me to that board in '96 and then late Commissioner Arthur Teele also
appointed me to that board. We have to have citizens' participation where we can be able to
have not a town hall meeting -- residents -- elected residents -- appointed residents with Dorothy
Quintana -- the late Dorothy Quintana, Mariano Cruz, and many other folks like myself and Irby
McKnight that sat on these boards that need to vet these applications so you all can likewise
make an intelligent decision where we will be able to vet and we know what the numbers are,
whether they're serving, whether they're performing, and we can get those things to you and
report independent of what Community Development doing and you all can make an intelligent
decision. But for Curley's House to be able to serve the people that they're serving and give a --
be given a building but with a back taxes -- we've given $800, 000 to Parrot Jungle to pay back
taxes in general fund. Why don't we do the same creativity to Curley's House that's serving the
community? And --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Muhammad: -- they're a citywide organization, not district wide. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Excuse me, Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me. I need to state -- make this statement on the record. Individuals
who are speaking do need to sign in. And if you're here representing the interest of a community
organization or you're a nonprofit, you do also have to register with me, so please, I need your
names. You know, you should -- if you speak without signing in, please come back to us so we
can get all of our records straight. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Renita Holmes: Good afternoon. Thank you. Just to follow a note, I'm glad you're speaking of
public service. You know, when you think about hunger, you won't think about disparity and no
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one should be hungry at all. My name is Madam Renita Holmes. I am a citizen and member of
Curley [sic] House, as well as a partner/service provider, so I'm speaking at all ends on the
subject of hunger and disparity in District 5, an African American community. True, the
numbers are disparate, but like I said, nobody should be hungry. Not only does Curley [sic]
House serve elderly and seniors, they serve disabled persons. I do believe that even some City
employees now who can't make the budget to feed their family on a monthly budget that have
been laid off are actually being served as well, so it's a matter of poverty level. But no one
should be hungry. You know, I commend you. But when we look at equity and balance, having
access to the resources that you need to feed your community, I see a big gap between 28,000 in
one community that has the same numbers as those are being served in citywide, you know, the
same disparity. So I look at the big gap and the differences per capita. District 5 is a large per
capita alone, them serving those who come in within their per capita. Not only just serving
people of poverty. If they're within that level, there are some who are recently middle -income
who have crashed, so we've seen some extenuating circumstances in the culture and in the
demographics that we're serving and for those who come outside. I think when we're trying to be
fair, we should look at all of the factors, and sometimes the perception of community economic
development can be amiss. Also the fact that a lot of organizations that have not quite acquired
the technical assistance, yet have inherited debts and liens in order to expand are null and void
and still in need of some help. So let's recalculate, look at the methodology, and the fact that's
apparent here by the number of persons you hear that how many can be served and how many
more can serve. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next. Go ahead.
Helena Del Monte: Helena Del Monte, Association for the Development of the Exceptional,
2801 North Miami Avenue. For those in the dais that you all know me but for the possibility of
anyone in the audience that may need our services, we are a specialized academic program,
academic and vocational, for adults with developmental disabilities. meaning retardation,
autism, cerebral palsy, and a whole array of disabilities. After the age of 21, the school system
ceases to service them and they are in a limbo unless we serve them and prepare them for future
sustainability and so that they can maximize the limited abilities they have. I thank each of you
in the dais for believing in us, for supporting our population. I'm very proud to say that our
agency has received 100 percent compliance from the City ofMiami for many, many years. I
have received a 97 percent from the state of Florida, and my annual audit is zero comments, zero
findings. Right now I am at a shortfall from last year's funding. I was at 59/5. I am now at 37.
Honestly, you know, if there's any way -- we are the only program for the developmental
disabilities being funded by public service. The elderly, you know -- you knew my parents. You
knew my parents. Does anyone love the elderly more than I? They were my empire. But my
people need it too. The County gave a 30 percent cut to public service, except to the elderly, and
here we're seeing the same -- andl applaud you, but I also implore you also if there's an
additional money, my students need it desperately. I've been cut from Tallahassee. I've been cut
from Metro. I no longer get the donations. And trust me, I'm a fighter, so if there's money out
there, I am trying to seek it. But you know, right now I am in a hole this big and, please, I
implore you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Come see me afterwards, Helena, because I was in Tallahassee
yesterday andl was surprised to learn that Genting, which is a huge land owner here in Miami,
has an extremely robust program at hiring disabled people. And the numbers they gave me were
extremely chartable and extremely robust, so come see me afterwards.
Ms. Del Monte: Good, 'cause that's what we do, supported employment. We employ our, you
know -- but --
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Chair Gort: You got -- set up your meeting right after.
Ms. Del Monte: But the meeting is --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Del Monte: -- going to be wonderful, but I need the funding to make -- to train these
consumers --
Chair Gort: We understand.
Ms. Del Monte: -- to make it happen.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. All things are possible.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Del Monte: Okay, thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Nilsa Velazquez: Good morning. My name is Nilsa Velazquez. I'm the executive director of
KIDCO Child Care, Inc. It's a child care agency in the Wynwood community, and we also serve
Little Haiti. I am proud to celebrate my 36 birthday at -- anniversary at KIDCO in Wynwood,
serving the needy of the area. Unfortunately, I know that cuts need to be -- to happen; yet, we
have been hit hard as well as the others. And what we do for the children is that we prepare
them for the future. Early intervention and brain development is what we do best. We have
testimonies of parents who go to KIDCO and say about the improvement that their kids get when
they go to our facilities. We receive 30 percent cut the previous year. Now we receiving another
30 -- 25 percent cut. We -- I'm appealing to you to maintain the same level of services that we
had last year and for that, we will need an additional $6, 000, besides the recommendation that
we received. So I appeal to you to take that into consideration.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Sue Loyzelle: Hello, Chairman Gort and the Commission. My name is Sue Loyzelle, and I'm
here representing the YMCA (Young Men's Christian Association) of Greater Miami, Allapattah
branch, 2370 Northwest 17th Avenue. We put in an application for funding and we received zero
dollars. And the reason that I'm here today is the YMCA is celebrating our 95th anniversary and
we started in the City ofMiami and we've remained in the City ofMiami for 95 years. Our
center at Allapattah is in desperate need of assistance for our child care program. We knew
there was a need for affordable rentals in this community and we tore down our old YMCA and
we built for this community in the City ofMiami a $38 million project to bring affordable rentals
for the elderly, 100 units, 200 affordable rentals for families to live at Allapattah. It is at full
capacity. I am so proud. And with our partners, we were able to bring you the $38 million
project to the City ofMiami. We are asking and pleading because the families that live in those
towers need child care and they need some assistance. We are asking for you to please consider
the YMCA. We used to receive funding from CDBG. We closed our building to build a new one
and now we can't get back into the process. It's very difficult, and the families need assistance so
their kids can attend our child care center. It is a state-of-the-art child care center for 127
children. And we would employ [sic] you to please look into the coffers. I know it is very
difficult. It's very time-consuming to try to find funds for everyone, but I would ask if you could
find us ten or fifteen thousand dollars to help these families get through so that their children can
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attend the child care. I would appreciate your consideration. Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Merline Barton: Good morning. My name is Merline Barton, executive director of the Thelma
Gibson Health Initiative/Theodore Gibson Memorial Fund. Each year we apply for funding to
help our elderly residents and home -bound residents in the Coconut Grove community. I would
like to thank you, Commissioner Sarnoff, for awarding us this year again, and l just wanted to
thank the staff of the City ofMiami for their great work and encouraging us and guiding us
towards productive reports. I do wish to ask also if there's any more funds -- our seniors, we
serve over 200 seniors and home -bound residents in Coconut Grove from the elderly center to
the waterfront area here. So again, I thank you, but I'm always looking for more. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Elisa Juara: Good morning. My name is Elisa Juara. I represent Little Havana Activities and
Nutrition Center. Good morning, Commissioners, Mayor, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so
much for funding Little Havana, which has been serving this community for over 39 years and
we appreciate your funding. It's very important. We are countywide, but we have six of our
centers in the City ofMiami. No, seven. And they are very poor. And as you can see, there's a
lot of need in this community. So I thank all of you, Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner
Suarez, and Commissioner Sarnoff, and all of you Commissioners, Gort and Mayor, because we
need all these funding that we can get. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Ms. Juara: And also the staff of Community Development always been so helpful to us.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Levert Jordan: Good morning or afternoon, whatever it is. My name is Deacon Levert Jordan.
I'm here to represent myself but to speak on behalf of Curley's House. I'm a deacon so I'll speak
for everybody so I represent everybody. But most things -- what concerns me most is to find
somebody that's hungry. I look around, there's food everywhere. And l find out our
government's trying to help, but they're strapped with their budget, but the first thing they cut is
the food line and that's a awful thing. I imagine most of you all belong to a church, synagogue,
or a mosque or something. You know what it is to treat your fellow men decently. And to be
hungry is an awful thing when food is all the way around. But I was very impressed when our
illustrious Mayor got up this morning and said he had to -- major initiative fund he's got it. He
had some kind of -- $8, 000 in his budget there for Curley [sic] House. Mayor, we appreciate
that. But to me, considering the volume of business that Curley [sic] handles every day, I'm not
talking about weekly, everyday, from all over the County of Dade County. They're never turned
away because they live across the line or across the street or avenue. They're always welcome.
The volume of business there -- the amount of money you have there -- I know your heart is good
because I -- what I heard you said you had a million dollars at one time, you're willing to give it
back to the community and that really got on my -- on the good side of me, okay. But when I
heard you say you -- however you came up with allocating of the funds and only came up $8,000
or so for Curley [sic] House, I felt that a bit atrocious to me. But when I heard you talk to our
representative Mayor of our district, that you all going to sit down and work it out, now that
brought me back -- put my foot back on the ground again.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Jordan: Mayor, you my Mayor. You my Mayor again, all right. Thank you, Mayor. But --
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Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Jordan: -- what I would like to see all the Commissioners to fall in line behind the Mayor,
and I'm going to be with you all. I'm going to send all my friends that's computer savvy to jam
the e-mails (electronic) in the Washington DC (District of Columbia) with the senators and
representatives. We're going to load it up. They think they got a problem this weekend trying to
get home for Christmas. They gone have plenty of problem trying to answer all those e-mails
because I'm going to get on the line and let them hear from us today, all right. Thank you very
much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Jordan: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next.
George Castano: Good morning, Commissioners. My name is George Castano. I'm the
executive director of the Josefa Castano Kidney Foundation. I'm simply here to say thank you to
all the Commissioners for continued support. And just to remind you that we have a citywide --
my elderly meals program is a citywide program and every little bit helps from every district, so I
would appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Castano: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next. You can use the other mike.
Brenda Graham: Good morning. My name is Brenda Graham, and I'm here to represent
Curley's House. And I just want to say I -- we do at Curley [sic] House need more funding to
provide more jobs. IfI may, I would like everybody that works at the stadium to please stand up.
This is the beautiful relationship under the leadership of Curley's House with Lavern Scott and
Laverne Holliday. And l just want everyone on the board to please give us more funding. Thank
you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes.
Tiffany Walker: Good morning. My name is Tiffany Walker. I'm here to represent my family,
which is Curley's. I been a volunteer there for two years. And we basically help with our
seniors, the community, the homeless. If we could just please get more fundings [sic] to help our
community and to help feed our people, I would love that. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Would you please, when you state your name, state your
address also?
Marcell Maxwell: My name is Marcell. I work for Curley's. The only reason we here, we here
because we need help. We need help bad for our seniors, for ourself [sic], for the children, for
our grandchildren. So could you please give us a little bit more funding? Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Cynthia Orr: Yes. Good morning. My name is Cynthia Orr. I'm one of the Curley [sic] House
members. When I didn't have nowhere to go or feed my kids, they was the one that looked out for
me. Got me a little job, and it's better than nothing. Andl wish it continue on for me and other
people that really do needs it. Thank you.
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Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes.
Geneva Finlayson: Good morning, Mr. Commissioner and Ms. Jones and everybody. My name
is Geneva Finlayson. I'm here. I'm concerned about the Curley [sic] House. The Curley [sic]
House represent all of our members who have on these shirts here today. And we really, really
need your help. And please give us more support. That's what I have to say. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Rudy Brown: Good morning. My name is Rudy Brown. I'm also representing Curley's House. I
just want to reiterate one thing. Had it not been for Curley's House providing me a job, giving
food to the community, things of this sort, a lot of people would have a lot of services that are
really vital to the community. And I'm also pleading for more funding to help reiterate this
effort. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am.
Sheila Allen: Good morning. My name is Sheila Allen. I'm here for Curley's House. And I was
here -- like to let y'all know that we need more fundings [sic]. And if it wasn't for Curley's
House, I wouldn't have nothing for me or my kids. And for the community, we need more funding
and thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Manuel Del Valle: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Del Valle: Morning. My name is Manuel del Valle. I'm the director -- project director of
Sisters and Brothers. I'd like to thank the Commission, the Mayor, the City staff for our funding
and to please not forget us. We're an elder meals program and we need your help. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Robert La Marca: Good morning, Commissioners and Mayors [sic]. My name is Robert La
Marca. I'm here to represent Curley's House. You know, we support the homeless, the rich, the
poor. We are one of the largest organizations there is in our city in our district, and we need a
little bit more funding, if you could help us on that. We need a bigger building so we could try to
help our community a little bit more. I was one of them people that used to hang on the corner.
Curley's gave me a chance. I'm here -- they always give me when I don't have. They help me
pay my bills and everything else. Without them, I'd be homeless myself. So please take into
consideration. We will try to help other organizations and a little bit more of our people if we
had the funds and a bigger space. Thank you. Y'all have a good day.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Ronald Baker: Good morning. My name is Ronald Baker, and I'm the CEO of the ISIS
Foundation, whereas it stands for Instilling Strength Inevitable Success. Now the reason why I'm
here starting off -- real quick, the mission statement, so you'll know. Instead of me asking for
funding, I'm going to let you know what it is about first before I say all those things. ISIS
Foundation is bound to helping the family, not just in this city or this state or this country, but to
every land where there lives a dream, a dream of success, of prosperity, and a dream of a better
tomorrow. It is our promise to instill hope to the child that feels hopeless; help to the family that
feels helpless, and make accessible the keys to possessing the goods of an inevitably brighter
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future. It is our cause to challenge the social growth of man academically, mentally and
spiritually by teaching character, courage, and self-control. We plant seeds of good choice
amongst the infected within a social inequality trigram as we understand that every person is
different in many ways. So therefore, we do not just provide a standard plan of action, but rather
design it to meet each individual specific social challenges and needs. By doing this, we thrust
forth into an atmosphere inclusive of the tools, assets and remedies needed only to one day
achieve our inevitable success and this is our mission to make a difference in the lives of others.
And so today, the ISIS Foundation comes before you today pretty much, as with everybody else,
asking for funding, but in the sense that in inner-city rural communities, we are pretty much the
pilot program and the harbinger for such a tenacious and visceral doppelganger, if you allow me
to say that, called social inequality. And so with that being said, because of the communities
that we come from, the people through hate, fear and mis-education, the choices that they make,
we have poor education. We have drugs. We have STD (Sexually Transmitted Disease) rates.
We have high crime rates. This information right here submitted by you, the City ofMiami
consolidated plan, what I've been doing my research on outlines from 2012 -- 2009-2013, the
grim and un-, you know, favorable statistics that we are supposed to experience within these
communities. And so I invite the CDBG, the board, I invite the Commission dais and everybody
else to take a look at this foundation and what we're doing, but then also other foundations who
fight and try to correct the socialhood of a people. Because all these people right here are
affected by social awareness. All these people are affected by choices that we have made. All of
this is social interactions that we're trying to present to you. These people that they're servicing
Curley [sic] House, the elderly, these are all a part of who we are and it's listed right here. One
thing that is also taken into consideration that we, as a people -- yes, and even in the occupy
demon -- I want to bring that up because with the rich one thing that I also said and one thing
want to make known is that we may not know -- I may not know all of their names, but we are
still connected invisibly through the economy that we live in and the social brotherhood called --
you know, of who we are. So with the finances of the rich they may have or the finances of these
other community boards, the finances of the poor, it still plays a part together as a whole. And
so with that being said, these people right here, we all compensate and we have, you know, a
viable cause. But like I say, it needs to start with programs that center around jobs, family, and
education. This is where it is. We need this for the people. And for ISIS Foundation, we need
this simply for the minimum amount of $10, 000. If you can grant me that, I'm so confident in
myself and what my foundation is about that don't need a whole lot because I know that I'll find
it from other places. But just give me that helping hand because, like I said, I'm helping these
people. This is what you list in your plan. This is what we go by. And so from that -- that's
pretty much what it is about. Additionally, one last thing before --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Baker: -- I go. I'm sorry.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Baker: When you take into culture also, a pretty heavy aspect between education, number
one, art, number two, three -- number three -- the number three, luck of how people get ahead in
life. Luck hits ever so often. Two -- number two, art. Is it talent? It's in everybody. It has to be
cultivated and developed. Education is something that a monkey, a dog, and a bird can pick up
to get a job. So everybody needs education. And when it comes to culture, this article right here
in the Miami Times has said that the Martin Luther King parade almost was not going to happen
because there were funding -- there was not enough funding, where $59, 000, so I'm told, has to
be raised up by us to pay for barricades just for us to line the streets. Fifty-nine thousand
dollars. This article right here -- for 33 years, it should never have even hit the press because
this is culture. This is our community, just like, you know --
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
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Mr. Baker: Yes, sir. All right.
Chair Gort: Appreciate it.
Mr. Baker: I do appreciate your time. Thank you so much.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Applause.
Kuame McNeal: Good morning. My name --
Chair Gort: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please. Yes.
Mr. McNeal: -- Kuame McNeal. Good morning, Commissioners. I'm representing Curley [sic]
House. And I'm here to say I'm here helping out elderly, older people and the community and
also our neighborhood. We need money, food and a better lifestyle. That's all got to say.
Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Logan Clark: Good morning.
Chair Gort: Morning.
Mr. Clark: My name is Logan Clark. I'm a member of the Curley [sic] House. I just want to let
y'all know that it's hard in the black community.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, Chair. We -- I --
Mr. Clark: We shouldn't have to sell --
Chair Gort: You got to bring the mike up to you.
Mr. Clark: -- drugs. Okay.
Ms. Thompson: And need --
Chair Gort: State your name and address again, please.
Mr. Clark: Oh, I'm sorry. My name is Logan Clark --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Clark: -- a member of the Curley [sic] House. I just want let y'all know it's hard in the
black community. We shouldn't have to sell drugs, prostitute, kill for money to eat. I mean, it's
hard in America. That's all I got to say.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
James La Marca: Good morning. I'm James La Marca, and I represent Curley's House.
Without the funding and the building for Curley's House, we couldn't feed our community. We do
not turn anybody down. We give to anybody and everybody. Without your support and funding,
we can't do what we do. Thank you.
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Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Alretha Harris: Hello. My name Alretha Harris. I live in Overtown, andl have always not been
perfect but since I found Curley [sic] House --
Chair Gort: Speak into the mike, please, ma'am.
Ms. Harris: -- they showed me how to better my life and start back over again. So I was praying
that y'all keep the program up for Curley [sic] House.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Esther Couvertier: Good morning. Esther Couvertier, from De Hostos Senior Center. I would
like to thanks [sic] all the Commissioner, especially Commissioner Spence -Jones and
Commissioner Sarnoff, for your support. Also to the Community Development Department and
to the Mayor, that he always have been very supportive. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
Christine King: Good morning, Commissioners, Commissioner Spence -Jones. My name is
Christine King. I'm the president and CEO of the Martin Luther King Economic Development
Corporation. And I would request your support for funding for our Wheels to Work program.
It's an initiative thatl believe achieves all of the goals that you have spoken about today. And
I'm just up here to make that request for funding. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Anthony Whitfield: Hello. How everybody doing? To the Commissioner, to the Chairman and
the Commissioners, I want to say thank you for letting us come today and speak. It's a lot of
things that the Curley [sic] House do. By the way, my name is Anthony Whitfield, 6112
Northwest 7th Avenue, owner of Star Medical. There's a lot of things that the Curley's House do.
And yes, everyone already knows about it, everybody understands about it 'cause they see it
every day. Yes, they do need funding but we also need a way that -- where we can have an
open-door policy to be able to talk to individuals about different planning. We're not asking for
funding just to give us money and then we go buy food and everything else like that. A lot of the
programs that the Curley's House has is to rebuild the community, rebuilding it green, rebuilding
it with the lifestyles of the different people that needs jobs. We go after the individuals that's just
been out of jail or have a way -- or look like they're about to go in jail. That's our main focus;
veterans and everybody else. So we have different plans and different programs with the funding
that you can give us from CDBG funds to be able to move forward. A lot of times individuals
takes what they -- what you give them and come back the next year and ask for more money.
What we asking for funding for is help us to build our own selves up 'cause with our programs
and different thing else like that, we'll be able to be able to touch the masses, not just in Liberty
City, not just in (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 11: 35: 43, but all over Miami, Florida. Give us the
funding. Let us produce the jobs, which we're already doing, and let us create more
opportunities for individuals that has been thrown and left to the wayside. Thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Mr. Whitfield.
Mr. Whitfield: Yes.
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Commissioner Sarnoff.. How many veterans --?
Mr. Whitfield: Wow, veterans. Well, understand this. A large population of the homeless are
veterans -- a large population of the homeless is veterans, so we serve about 35 to 40 percent of
our people that comes in there are veterans. I'm a veteran myself. So it's -- veterans is big. And
for them not to be able -- a lot of times -- ifI may say, a lot of times when we come back from
war, okay, our minds are not right, okay, because we dealing with so much stress, everyday
stress and everything else like that. So it takes a special organization or a transitional group to
be able to move forward. The Curley's House do have a program for that.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Okay, and that's whatl wanted to hear, that you actually have a
problem for people coming backfrom either Iraq or Afghanistan.
Mr. Whitfield: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Okay.
Mr. Whitfield: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: Have you heard of a program called Anthem?
Mr. Whitfield: No, sir.
Chair Gort: It's specifically -- right now it's going to be -- I'm sure they're going to be talking to
Commissioner Spence -Jones. There's a big program going there to help veterans. If you call my
office, I'll give you their director -- executive director. He's in Miami, that he can be very
helpful.
Mr. Whitfield: That sound like a plan. And for the record, could you say the name again,
please?
Chair Gort: Anthem.
Mr. Whitfield: Anthem.
Chair Gort: Like the national anthem.
Mr. Whitfield: Oh, I got it.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Whitfield: All right. Thank you so much. You have a great day.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Laverne Holliday: Good morning. My name's Laverne Holliday, the assistant director of
Curley's House. To the Commissioners, Chairman Gort, we thank you for the recommendation.
We appreciate that. We need more. I just want to say this. We -- you probably -- most people
probably think that all we do is pass out food. That is far from what we do. We know that
passing out food is a Band-Aid for things that people are really hurting in the community. So we
establish a relationship with them so that we can find out what their needs are and how we can
direct them and help them. And so it takes a lot of work to document and make things happen for
people. So it's -- our stadium -- part of that is our relationship with the stadium to help these
people that -- to give them a second chance 'cause all of us have had some little skeletons in the
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closet somewhere and we come out. So we give them a better shot at at least getting to be
employed. So we would like some funding for our economic development and our building.
Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Lavern Elie -Scott: Lavern Elie -Scott, director of Curley's House. Curley's House is here today
with our voting populations that came out in numbers to show their support for us, as well as to
support you guys because we do support you guys citywide. We provide a service that is
citywide. We provide help to people from Coconut Grove, the Heights, let along [sic] so many --
we have large numbers in Allapattah, as well as the other district throughout the city. Andl was
surprised to learn that myself that we are hiring people that come all the way from Richmond
Height [sic] to work for our organization. We have many people here that -- today that are
working for our organization. By giving these people jobs, we're preventing recidivism. We
keeping them out of jail. We keeping them from robbing and stealing because it's so difficult for
them to find a job. So we need your help. We need your support in keeping these people off the
streets and giving them a second chance. Like Ms. Holliday said, we do more than give out food.
We're also a access site. So what that means is that we help them with food stamps, Medicaid,
Medicare, cash assistance. Right now our program is 40 percent Hispanics because the
dynamics of our communities are changing, so we're serving the Hispanic community as well.
We have maybe a 30 percent Haitian population and the rest is black and others. So we serve
everybody without any prejudice. We don't care what ZIP (Zone Improvement Plan) code you're
from. If you come to our place and you say that you need help, we have an open-door policy,
and that's what it's all about. We don't turn people away. These people right here cannot go to
other ZIP codes and get their help' cause the first thing they going to do is send them around in
that proverbial circle screw, okay. We don't do that. We help everybody. So that's what it's
about. We need your help. We thank you all, Commissioner Carollo, Suarez. Gort, we need
your help 'cause we serving your district. Commissioner Spence [sic], we thank you. And of
course, I can never say enough, Mayor Regalado. We thank you for your support. We thank you
for coming out with us to those senior buildings for providing that service that you do during the
holidays. I mean, we really thank you for that because you don't come out just because you need
our vote or our support. You show great kindness and your gratitude and love and support for
those seniors. Our senior community is hurting. Those people receive $5 in food stamps, less
than $400 to $600 a month, and you all -- you always talk about the seniors, so I know you're
aware of those numbers. It's hard to believe in America that people can actually be receiving $5
in food stamps. What can you buy with $5 in food stamps? The check's only 400, okay. So when
they pay their rent -- if they do get an increase from off of their check, the rent goes up. How can
they pay for their medication? They -- many of them have their grandkids. Many of them are
just trying to survive. So if it was not for Curley's House, many of these people would be eating
cat food dog food. Who knows what you got to do to survive these days? Somebody talked
about standing on the corner selling drugs and selling their bodies. People got kids. We have
people come to us with 13 or 14 kids that need our help. It's a desperate situation there. It's
time that we stop playing politics and get serious about helping people that are truly in need in
this community 'cause we are suffering. And as you know, Miami is one of the poorest people --
places throughout the United States. And who would think that with the great wealth and vast
wealth and resources that we have here. So we do need you [sic] support. We are here to
support you guys. Once again, thank you, Mayor. We have many senior buildings that are
calling us that need our help, okay. We have limited resources. Thirty thousand dollars,
Commissioner Spence [sic], we thank you for it, but it's not enough. It's not enough. When we
go to these buildings, these buildings have 100 seniors. Some of them have 200 seniors. They
calling us, Curley's House, we need your help 'cause they know we will come out. But if we don't
have the resources -- 'cause we not getting paid ourself [sic]. We're basically volunteers. You
have a lot of executive directors here receiving 120, 000. Great. We happy for them. We're not.
We doing this out of the kindness of our hearts. So we're asking you all to continue to support us.
Thank you.
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Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Applause.
Unidentified Speaker: My name is --
Chair Gort: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please.
Mr. Muhammad: Mr. Chair --
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Mr. Muhammad: -- I wanted to submit this for the record. The Curley's House -- the building,
the resolution from the City.
Chair Gort: Okay, fine.
Mr. Muhammad: Enter it for the record.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Unidentified Speaker: Good morning. My name is (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 11: 43: 45, and I'm a
client at Curley [sic] House. And thank God that was able to come down here to speak in
behalf of the family of the Curley [sic] House. If it wasn't for them (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
11: 43: 55 food that I receive, I wouldn't be here. But I -- we need -- desperate need for more
money. Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Anyone else? Okay, close the public hearing.
Motion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Motion.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Discussion, though. Oh, did you --?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yeah. I was going to make an amendment. I'd like to amend and give
Curley [sic] House $5, 000 and reduce the $5, 000 from the Coconut Grove Collaborative.
Mr. Mensah: And so I want to make a correction on the record. The Catholic Charities Segrada
Familia will be 18,795. Curley's House will now be $35,000, and Association for the
Development of the Exceptional will be 36,609. So that's for the record.
Chair Gort: Okay. Thank you. My understanding, some of this reserve that we have, we can
always make the transaction later on.
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Chair Gort: We can make the --
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
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Chair Gort: -- changes later on.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, a couple of things that I
wanted to say. First of all, I want to commend the Curley [sic] House. We've been working
together from day one, at least when I started -- when I got officially elected. And our office was
truly committed to making sure that, you know, they were at least stabilized and empowered to
mobilize the community. And being gone for two years and coming back to see the work that has
been put in to have people come out, mobilize to be able to speak about their issue in a very
intelligent, smart manner without the screaming and the yelling and the -- I mean, you guys are
to be commended for that because this is the kind of leadership that we need to have happening
in my district, you know. We're get -- you're getting your point across. Our fellow
Commissioners and the Mayor see exactly what the issue is. And l just want to be able to
acknowledge that. George also knows and both Lavernes also know in the very beginning we
had some trying times with trying to make sure that the business of the operation was in order.
And it is a blessing to hear from George today that, you know, Curley's House is on top of the
business part of doing business for the district, which I think is a beautiful thing. It's great to see
it growing like that. I want to add a couple things. First of all, thank Commissioner Sarnofffor
giving, you know, $5, 000 towards the allocation. And as I stated earlier, Commissioner --
excuse me, Mayor Regalado and I will sit down to look at the Mayor's Poverty Initiative to at
least make sure there's some equalness [sic] or close to fairness in how we determine or give out
those dollars, because as you can see just in this room alone, Curley's House is truly servicing a
lot of people, even outside of my district. Andl will continue to work along with Curley's House
to figure out innovative ways that we can create revenue so that they can sustain themselves. As
I sit up here today, though, I have to say, you know, it's very challenging, you know, when you
really don't see the whole entire picture. As most of you guys know sitting in the audience, my
district probably is the most challenging district. No one could ever question my love for
seniors. I mean, during my term in office, a lot of my attention was placed on supporting seniors
and actually small businesses. So my love and passion for seniors still exists and will continue to
exist because if we don't take care of you guys, then who else will. But it becomes a delicate
balance when you don't have a lot of money to spread around and you have to break it up
between definitely supporting your seniors and my youth -based programs. And we all can agree
in my district that the youth issue has become a huge issue when we start talking about the
number of guns that are on the streets, the number of young people that are getting shot daily on
the streets in Miami; that have to begin to look at innovative ways to address, you know, the
crime that's happening in the district. So I'm weighing between definitely making sure my
seniors get support and definitely making sure that my youth -based organizations get support.
And bottom line, I think Curley's House, even though they -- their focus is a lot on seniors, they
clearly feed families, which touch young people as well. So I do understand that andl recognize
that, butt also understand that my pot is not all that big. So what have to do -- and this is what
I say all the time -- and my fellow Commissioners know this about me and Administration know
this about me, is that I know that government can't afford to cover, you know, the whole gamut.
So that's why private industry becomes extremely important to raise money outside of what
government can do to provide the necessary support. And that's why, Mr. Mayor, any initiatives
-- I know we're working on a few together to figure out other ways because next year it's going to
be worse. And the year after that, it's going to be worse. And we're going to continue to have
the same discussion because, unfortunately, the money's getting cut left and right in federal
government. So we got to begin to create plans that sustain our organizations. For instance --
and that was one of the reasons why I mentioned to -- this morning on -- with George on the dais
this morning that want to make sure that all of my nonprofit organizations and even my
businesses come up with some sort of sustainability type plan because if -- let's say the federal
government decides that it's not going to happen next year, no money, then we're going to have a
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problem. So, you know, us working closely with the Curley's House and other organizations -- I
know Curley's House dominated, but I do see organizations that are here that came out to
support their organizations as well. We have to figure out a way to at least generate revenue
without always depending solely on government 'cause eventually it's going to go. So whether or
not that means Curley [sic] House now needs to be innovative to create maybe a thrift shop that
can sell clothing and create revenue, whether or not that means Curley's House has to begin to
look at other opportunities that's going to go towards the bottom line to continue to feed people
-- and then I'm going to shut up after this. But I'm just going to say this, I came in on the end of
this process, and there's one thing I've learned about this two-year time away -- or I would say
my hiatus on the mountaintop was, you know, this train had already left the station, you know.
The process had already gone out. Apparently, there had been community meetings like we
normally have for CDBG and you had already done your presentations. And the one thing that I
am not going to do is I'm not going to interfere in the process in any way, andl definitely want to
make sure that everything thatl do from my perspective is done from a transparent standpoint.
And I'm not going to jump in the middle of the process that Administration -- 'cause I'm not
going to have a problem later on. So what I've asked for George to do is let the process, you
know, roll the way that it is. But first quarter, I believe we have January and February,
hopefully I'll have some reprogram dollars and some additional funds left over or still in
existence that we can have a process to address the additional needs that are necessary. But I
know that my -- the residents of my district understand that Spence -Jones got to do everything
right 'cause if I don't do everything right, then I have a problem later on. It may not be the same
for everyone, but I'm definitely going to do it the right way. So what I've asked for George to do
with me is to look at what we have left over to figure out how we can spread this amongst not
only our seniors, but also how we can spread it amongst our young people because I have to
begin to look at initiatives to kind of really address what the overall issues are. So my main
mission for 2012 is not just to only provide the resources that are necessary to support the local
organizations that are in my district, but I have to begin to put things in place to teach my
community how to fish. That's really what it's about. Because ifI don't teach you how to fish,
I'm really only abandoning you in the process. I am pacifying the situation. I'm not building you
up. I'm not empowering you. I'm not creating a scenario where you can become better without
government. And that's the one major thing that learned in these two years going away. I don't
ever want to be in a situation or my community be in a situation that I have to hear 100 people
show up to the mike and every single last person says that I'm hungry or I don't have a job or I
don't have -- to me, then that means we all fail. That's not true leadership. If I'm constantly
creating a dependent situation, that's not empowering my community. That's not making it
better. It pains me to see my community come up and ask for anything like that and that's real.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Do I have a motion? We made the motion?
Commissioner Suarez: I believe I made the motion. Oh, no?
Ms. Thompson: We had -- we listed Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones as making the motion.
And we have here Vice Chair seconding.
Commissioner Suarez: Perfect.
Ms. Thompson: Is that correct?
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Sounds good to me.
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Chair Gort: George, let me ask you a question, and this is for all of us to think a little bit about
it. We have a lot of agencies that provide services to the needy within our community. They're
independent agencies. They don't receive direct fundftom CDBGs. Is there any way that we can
coordinate those agency in order to support each other? Get away with this is my turf. But a lot
of these services that being provided by existing agency that might not be aware of the need of
the other community. So I think it's very important somehow we can reach to all those agencies
and how we can coordinate all those services. 'Cause an example, for the homeless, I know we --
it's about 15 to $20 million that goes for homeless, and we need to find out how it's being used
and so on. So that's something that I'd like for you all to look into it since you're in that
department.
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah, director of Community Development. Yes, Commissioner
Spence -Jones have started talking to us about being able to provide (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
11: 55: 03 to all the nonprofits. So one of it is basically what you just talked about, and that is
being able to make them aware of opportunities that are out there that they can avail themself
[sic] of. The Homeless Trust definitely is one of them. The Children's Trust also has the sort of
funding that we need to find out how we can assist them to be able to apply for such funding,
look at the state funding, look at federal government funding in other area that are not CDBG.
And these are all available andl intend to work with the grants department to see what type of
program we can put together to assist all of them.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman --
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir [sic].
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- andl just want to add because it's really important. You know,
when you're talking about organizations that are literally living on a shoestring budget to even
keep their doors open and when we send them to agencies like the Children's Trust -- and not
saying anything negative about the agencies, but you know, their bars are so high up on the
scale that many of the organizations in my community unfortunately cannot even begin to reach
it, but they're still servicing people. So, you know, whatl -- I like your suggestion of trying to
figure out a way to have us work along with some of these agencies so that even if it's the City
and those agencies that can combine their resources to go after some of these grants, if the City's
partnering with them, they have a greater chance of getting the resources to get things done. But
ifI askMLK (Martin Luther King) or ifI ask Curley's House or ifI ask, you know, any one of the
agencies in my district to just go after these dollars on their own, you know, they're not going to
be able to access those monies. It's just -- you know, it becomes talk in the wind and,
unfortunately, it's a group of people that sit and make judgment on what organizations the -- you
know, should and should not have something. And a lot of times, if they're not politically
connected or they don't have the right people sitting on the board or the right people speaking
for them, they don't even have a chance. So if nothing else, I would definitely like -- andl love
the suggestion of the Chairman -- if there's any way that maybe perhaps we can create some
special program that can assist these organizations so that they can at least go after some of the
additional federal and state and even private foundation grants to at least help them become a
little bit more stable. Andl think that that probably is a better route to helping them. But to send
them to any of those other agencies would be -- I know would be a waste of time.
Chair Gort: There's a lot of people that want to help, especially this year, so next year. Any
further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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11-01103
Department of
Community
Development
Ms. Thompson: And Chair, we just need to make sure the record will reflect that this resolution
is passed as modified.
Chair Gort: Correct.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING THE ALLOCATION FOR PROGRAM YEAR
2012-2013 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS
PROGRAM FUNDS, IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF $12,498,939, AS
SPECIFIED IN ATTACHMENT "A," ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, TO
PROVIDE HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND HOUSING RELATED SERVICES TO
LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS LIVING WITH HIV/AIDS; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS, IN SUBSTANTIALLY
THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID PURPOSE.
11-01103 Summary Form.pdf
11-01103 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01103 Legislation.pdf
11-01103 Exhibit 1.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-11-0489
Chair Gort: SP.9. SP. 8?
Vice Chair Carollo: SP. 8.
Roberto Tazoe: Roberto Tazoe, assistant director, Department of Community Development. This
is a resolution of the Miami City Commission allocating program year '12-'13 for the Housing
Opportunities for People with AIDS (Acquiredlmmuno Deficiency Syndrome) program funds in
the projected amount of 12, 498, 000 --
Chair Gort: Excuse me. Let me stop you a minute. Let's take a five-minute recess.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What's five --? You want to just take a break, lunch? It's 12
o'clock.
Vice Chair Carollo: I agree.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, you don't want -- we're not taking a break.
Chair Gort: I don't have any problem coming back.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I mean, these other items are going to be long, right?
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Chair Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, not too long, right?
Commissioner Sarnoff. How long?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Parrot Jungle's going to be a minute, I believe.
Chair Gort: We can try to finish this -- let's try to finish this and leave Parrot Jungle for
afterwards.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Okay.
Chair Gort: How's that?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, that's fine.
Chair Gort: Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Continue, sir.
Mr. Tazoe: Roberto Tazoe, assistant director, Department of Community Development. This
resolution is -- well, it's approval for the resolution of the City ofMiami Commission approving
the allocation for program year '12-'13 for the Housing Opportunities for People with AIDS
program funds, in the projected amount of 12, 498,939. The following agencies or City programs
are being recommended. City ofMiami Department of Community Development administration,
324,968; Apple Tree Perspective [sic] for technical assistance, $50, 000. For the project based
operating support, Miami Beach CDC (Community Development Corporation), 27,000;
Carrfour Harding Village, 28,000; Carrfour Little River Bent, 17, 500; BAME Development
Corporation, Greater Bethel, 48,000. Under the long-term rental assistance program, Center of
Information and Orientation, 437,980; Empower "U, " 437,980; Miami Beach CDC, 348,230;
Sunshine for All, 398,490; and Spanish American Basic Education and Rehab, 175, 910. In
addition for rental payments, the City ofMiami Department of Community Development,
$10,154, 881. And for legal services, HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) Education & Law
Projects, HELP, Inc., for $50, 000.
Commissioner Suarez: Move it.
Chair Gort: Once again, as I've asked the individuals before, could you explain what are these
funding and how they being used.
Mr. Tazoe: The HOPWA program -- basically the City ofMiami administers the HOPWA
program for the whole county, and it's a dedicated program to assist people with HIV/AIDS. The
way we work this program is that we have a long-term -- we concentrate on a long-term rental
assistance program, which works similarly to the Section 8 program and allows for people that
are low income who have AIDS to pay 30 percent of their income and the City comes up with the
difference. In addition, we have an operate and support program where we have buildings where
people -- the assistance is tied up to the actual unit and people who have AIDS who have -- you
know, through a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 12: 01:16 wait list, they're able to qualin, for these units.
We have 30 units for operate and support. And finally, we have legal services, which they
provide supportive services to people who are already in the program in order for them to be
able to get services that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford.
Chair Gort: Thank you. My understanding is this is funding restricted to the use of people with
AIDS.
Mr. Tazoe: Correct.
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SP.9
11-01095
Department of
Community
Development
Chair Gort: Correct? Okay. Thank you. I now open the public hearing. Is anyone would like
to address this issue? Is anyone would like to address this issue? Showing none, we close the
public hearings [sic]. Board members -- Commissioners.
Commissioner Suarez: Motion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Sarnoff. Any
further discussion?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Whatever -- I think that whatever we need to do to support more
AIDS -related programs, we need to try to do that. So I'm hoping that y'all visit to DC (District of
Columbia) -- who's going to DC next week? Please.
Chair Gort: We're well represented. Okey-doke. All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Tazoe: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPROVING THE CITY
OF MIAMI DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENTS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING INCENTIVE STRATEGIES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL LOAN COMMITTEE AS REQUIRED BY
FLORIDA STATUTE 420.9076; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO IMPLEMENT SAID
AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVES STRATEGIES.
11-01095 Summary Form.pdf
11-01095 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01095 Pre -Affordable Housing Incentives.pdf
11-01095 Legislation.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-11-0490
Chair Gort: 9.
George Mensah: George Mensah, director of Community Development. PH.9 [sic] is approving
the City ofMiami (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 12: 02: 31 Community Development affordable housing
incentive strategies, as recommended by the Housing and Commercial Loan Committee. And
this approval is required by Florida Statute 420.9076, and this allows the City to continue to be
part of the SHIP (State Housing Initiative Program) program. The incentive that are
recommended here are incentives that are already in place and there is no new incentive being
recommended.
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Commissioner Suarez: Move SP.9.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Suarez, second by Commissioner Sarnoff. Public
hearings [sic]. Is anyone in the public would like to address this issue? Yes, sir.
Grady Muhammad: Grady Muhammad. Again, as I stated with the Housing and Commercial
Loan Committee -- I just somehow misplaced my documents. This is a City -created entity by
ordinance. It deals with federal funds. They have a meeting tomorrow here at 9 o'clock. You
look at the agenda for the Clerk, she has no minutes of it. It's in this Commission [sic]. It's not
televised. The small ad that shows what it's supposed to do -- but look at the people that's sitting
on the board. Most of them don't live in the City ofMiami. The person who's the public
advocate for the poor lives in Bay Harbor Island. How's a rich man going to represent me, a
poor man? That's oxymoronic. But this is the entity -- and you have City employees also sitting
on this board. But these dealing with state, federal affordable housing funds. But again, I
wanted to submit to the record -- my notes have somehow disappeared, but I had the list of the
Housing Commercial Loan Committee. And it states the advocate for the poor is Mr.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) 12:04:12, out of Bay Harbor Islands. He's the advocate for the poor. Mr.
Director, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I can assure you -- I'll get the records in the next
minute and I'll give you the facts. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: How are those people identified? I'm just -- Are they appointed?
Mr. Muhammad: Yes.
Mr. Mensah: The --
Mr. Muhammad: By the Commission.
Mr. Mensah: -- ordinance which appointed them follows the Florida Statute as to who should be
members of those organizations. And those -- there's an advertising process and then based on
advertising, their names come to the City Commission for approval. That is how it's done. So
it's --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And when does that process happen again?
Mr. Muhammad: These are federal funds.
Mr. Mensah: The process -- actually, when there is a vacancy on the board --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, so that's the only time it happens?
Mr. Mensah: I think they do -- is it two years or four years I believe serve on --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So they serve four years?
Mr. Mensah: Is it four years? There's a term. They have a term. And at the end of the term --
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the term ends, and then they come back -- it comes back to Commission.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sasha, what --?
Ninoshka Reyes (Assistant City Attorney): For what board? I'm sorry, for what board?
Mr. Mensah: The HCLC (Housing and Commercial Loan Committee).
Ms. Reyes: I believe it's two years --
Mr. Mensah: It's two years?
Ms. Reyes: -- for the term.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so when is the next period?
Mr. Mensah: The next period -- I don't -- I have to --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: -- go look at records and I'll send it to you
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right. But basically, we don't really appoint them, we just
confirm them, but they have to go through an application process?
Mr. Mensah: They have to go through an application process, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so the question become -- you know, that's why it's really
important for us to have the right -- all the information. So when this process comes back up
again, Grady, we need to make sure that other people are applying during that process so that at
least they're in the loop of who is selected.
Mr. Muhammad: The HUD (Department of Housing and Urban Development) regulations is
real simple. A citizen appointed or elected body. The Housing and Commercial Loan Committee
is created by this city and by ordinance. Federal regulations 570.204, citizens participation, just
like the Model City Community Advisory Committee from the County is a elected and appointed
body of residents so HUD requires four citizens' participation for Community Development Block
Grant to have residents and individuals elected and appointed. Like I said, Mr. Mariano Cruz,
myself, Ms. Dorothy Quintana, Irby McKnight, those are the committee that we sat on for the
citywide advisory board.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Grady --
Mr. Muhammad: And that made the recommendations --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Got you, Grady.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Got you, Grady.
Mr. Muhammad: -- for that. Thank you.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: But we're just trying to handle one little issue andl know we got
to get out of here.
Mr. Muhammad: No problem.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sasha, I know you -- are you with us?
Ms. Reyes: I'm looking at the term right now.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so do you want to clear up anything on there 'cause I don't
like the stuff to be out -- floating out in TV (Television) land and, you know --
Mr. Mensah: Yeah. That's always the issue. The issue is that when you have a citizen come and
make reference to a Florida Statute or HUD regulation 570 dash something, which doesn't really
exist or doesn't say what they say it says, it becomes very difficult to really talk about it. The --
this particular body was set up through a request by HUD in the '90s that the City when it comes
to underwriting of housing projects that -- and economic development loans, that the City
abrogate -- the City Commission provide that responsibility to a third party who are experts in
that field.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, okay.
Mr. Mensah: So that's how the whole -- the loan committee entirely started. Now the Florida
Statute require the City to have an advisory board which made up of certain -- had certain
requirements. So the City, instead of having two bodies, one just to do affordable housing and
then one just for the state, decided that we'd make them together to be one body which serves the
terms of the SHIP program and at the same time also meets the requirement of HUD. That
requirement that HUD (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 12: 08: 05 is not by HUD statute or anything. It's
just because of the fact that HUD advised the City that making decisions when underwriting
shouldn't be political, that it should be apolitical. And that the body that make those decisions as
to whether a project is feasible or not should be made by professionals in the field. So people
that live in Bal Harbor or live in other areas, once they meet those criteria, are qualified to be on
that committee. So I just wanted to put that on the record.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Andl think the record reflect probably the greatest advocate in the
history of America of the poor, Bill Clinton, I believe is worth $42 million and happens to live in
Connecticut. We could make the statement he has a really nice house, but you can't say he
doesn't care about the poor.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We had a motion and a second.
Ms. Reyes: Commissioner, ifI --
Chair Gort: Is there any further discussion?
Ms. Reyes: -- could clarify for you?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sasha has a comment.
Ms. Reyes: I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. It is a four-year term. And moreover, we're required to put out
a public notice in the newspaper 15 days prior to any appointment so that the citizens of the
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community can submit names and, you know, of the members to get appointed.
Chair Gort: Now my understanding is --
Ms. Reyes: Every four years when there's vacancies to be filled.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Four years, not two.
Ms. Reyes: Right. It's a four-year term.
Chair Gort: Question, there are certain criteria that has to be met. My understanding is --
Ms. Reyes: That's correct.
Chair Gort: -- that finance or -- I mean, there's certain requirements.
Mr. Mensah: Yes, that's correct.
Ms. Reyes: Right. They have to be in real estate. The other has to be in -- developer in
construction. One has to be in banking, in finance. You know, there's certain --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Ms. Reyes: -- professions and fields they have to be in.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion? Being none, all in favor, state it by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE
CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6020 NORTHWEST 15TH
AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM MIAMI DREAM HOMES INVESTMENT
GROUP, INC., LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A", ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO
THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR SAID PURPOSES.
11-01119 Summary Form.pdf
11-01119 Notice to the Public.pdf
11-01119 Letter - Miami Dade Home Investments Group, Inc.pdf
11-01119 Pre-Legislation.pdf
11-01119 Legislation.pdf
11-01119 Exhibit 1.pdf
11-01119-Submittal-Grady Muhammad.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Gort: SP. 10.
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): SP. 10 authorizes the City Manager to
accept the conveyance of the property located at 6020 Northwest 15th Avenue from Miami
Dream Homes Investment Group. And this property will come to the City and the City Attorney
will ensure that the property has no liens and anything before the City accepts it.
Commissioner Suarez: Move SP.10 for discussion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Chair Gort: Any further discussion?
Commissioner Suarez: Just one question --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, discussion.
Commissioner Suarez: -- Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Wait a minute. It's a public hearing. Yes, sir.
Grady Muhammad: Grady Muhammad, CEO (Chief Executive Officer) of Miami Dade First.
This is the letter from Miami Dream Homes, dated October 30, 2011, of why they could not
complete this project. They got the land in 2005. As of June 30, 2011, the 15-unit apartment
complex should have been completed according to all of the extensions that were granted.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Fifteen units?
Mr. Muhammad: Fifteen units at 6020 North -- that's -- that was -- it was a proposed 15-unit --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, for this.
Mr. Muhammad: -- apartment complex.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Muhammad: They giving you the land back. In this letter, they're stating they had $450, 000
that they received from Miami -Dade County, which was about 45 percent or 40 percent of the
funding. Again, we don't seem to think out [sic] the box. The City gave them the land. They got
additional funds from the County. We have neighborhood stabilization funds that can be used to
build multifamily rental apartments. Why didn't we get --? We've received $100 million in NSP
(Neighborhood Stabilization Program) dollars from HUD (Department of Housing and Urban
Development) since 2000. We could have used some of those funds to be able to do what these
collaborations and these matches you're talking about, Chairman Gort. This is what we have to
do. I don't know why we didn't. And the other one, of course, is Miami Dream Homes, 1525
Northwest 60th Street. That's a three-story, 7-unit, $1.2 million apartment complex, $160, 000
per one -bedroom apartment. That likewise was given at the same time. Extensions was given.
This letter -- ifI could read it to the record, Mr. Chair -- goes to George Mensah. CD
(Community Development) Building. We requesting the City grant an extension through March
31 to complete the construction of CD Building. Our contract mandates that we complete the
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building by December 31, 2010, a date that was very reasonable at the time and doable at the
time the request was made. However, our elevator subcontractor, Ace Elevator, received one of
the elevator parts defective. The company that makes the part could not deliver another one 'til
the week of January 24, 2011. Once Elevator -- Ace Elevator receives the part, it will take 30
days to complete the building. The building is 95 percent complete, but due to the Ace Elevator
problem, we cannot complete the building before March 31, 2000 -- they got '10. It's supposed
to be '11. We are forced to request additional extension to complete. This was granted. Here we
are, December 8, 2011. The building ain't nowhere near complete. Air condition has been
stolen twice. Where is the --? I've requested police reports because the e-mail (electronic) that
received from the deputy director states it was vandalized. Well, I can assure you the pictures
and all the things that I've sent to you all in e-mails, those elevators -- those air conditioners
were stolen months before a police report was given, and it's two vandalism. I only got one
police report. So I can assure you, $1.2 million -- We got across the street this Commission
approvedParkview Gardens (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 12:13:10. That's already a three-story
building that's going up and almost finished across -- next to African Square Park. This is a
three-story, 7-unit apartment building, 1.2 million, and it has taken five years and it's still no
close to complete. There's no access to the underground parking. The elevator doesn't exist.
The rails are not there. And who's responsible for this because these are federal funds. But if we
continue and do not in any way, shape, form and fashion as you all are saying, we will have to
repay HUD and we should not -- and this should not take such a very long time to complete a
building to provide affordable housing in District 5 and citywide. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Anyone else in the public?
Mr. Muhammad: For the record, I'll enter those letters.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can -- I've asked for the City Attorney to actually -- I guess she's
working on some issues regarding this -- both -- this particular matter but the matter that Mr.
Grady is speaking of. Is there any way that we can defer this and bring this back when we come
back at 2 o'clock?
Chair Gort: I don't have any problem.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. I'd rather do that so that we address it, but --
Chair Gort: Table it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Table.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I would ask for George to clear the record really fast, though,
regarding this statement that was made, if there's anything that needs to be cleared up on --
'cause we got to stop spewing all this stuff out and not have -- not operating from fact.
Mr. Mensah: This --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Is there anything that you need to clear up before we come back at
2, I'm assuming.
Mr. Mensah: Well, this particular project is a project that they did not have -- first of all, we've
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not had NSP funds from 2000. NSP funds were in the last three years. And this is a developer
project. This is not owned by the City. The City gave them the land and their job is to go and
find the financing. When the NSP came, it was an application process and the developer could
have applied for NSP fund to use in this project. And so it's not something that the City really
had control over. And we think that it's better to get a property back than to let it continue to be
in the hands of the developer if he's not able to make those dates.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Have they paid the taxes?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. The taxes is paid. The property is kept in good condition.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The item that we're voting on, I want to be very clear, is about us
accepting back land --
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- on this particular --
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- property.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: All right. So Mr. Chairman, if we can deal with this issue when
we come back, I would greatly appreciate it because --
Chair Gort: No problem. What time you guys want --?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I want to make sure that my fellow Commissioners understand
any issues regarding any one of these properties, okay. All right.
Chair Gort: Thank you. What time you guys want to come back?
[Later..]
Chair Gort: SP.11.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Chair, just to remind you --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: -- we did -- we still have SP.10 when we get back in there. That one was tabled.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am. For SP.10, we'll wait for Commissioner Spence -Jones. Okay,
Commissioner (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 2:18: 04. We're ready. Ready for you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, we can't have this discussion without you, Parrot Jungle.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir. You're recognized.
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah, director of Community Development. Commissioner, this is the
conclusion of the SP.10 item, where we accepting the property, 6020 Northwest 15th Avenue,
from Miami Dream Homes.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman, I've actually gotten clarity from --
Chair Gort: Item 10.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- yeah -- the City Attorney. So our focus is really on just
receiving the land back, correct?
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So anything else should be addressed at a different time.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, I just had one question. And that has to do with the liens
or any potential liens against the property. You had mentioned to me in our briefing that prior to
taking -- to accepting title, you will --
Mr. Mensah: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: -- conduct a thorough lien search and title search to make sure that we 're
not getting anything that creates an obligation for the City.
Mr. Mensah: That's correct, Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That was it? So moved.
Ms. Thompson: No. I'm sorry, Chair. Because we tabled this item --
Chair Gort: SP.10.
Ms. Thompson: -- when we tabled, you had opened your public meeting. You need to close it,
and you already have a motion and --
Chair Gort: We already had closed it and the motion, I believe, was made and was tabled, and
then it's (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 2:19: 28.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. So you have your motion on the floor already.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: So you need a vote.
Chair Gort: All in favor, state it by saying "aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
SP.11 DISCUSSION ITEM
11-01133
Department of DISCUSSION ON PARROT JUNGLE.
Community
Development
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DISCUSSED
Chair Gort: SP.11.
Alice Bravo: Good afternoon. Alice Bravo, assistant City Manager. Back in our November
meeting, the Commission approved refinancing of a Section 108 HUD (Department of Housing
and Urban Development) loan that had been entered to on behalf of the Jungle Island project,
and we agreed that day to come back and provide an overview of that project. I've handed out a
PowerPoint presentation that I hope to get up here on the screen.
Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. And since we're discussing Jungle Island, I just want always in
an abundance of caution -- I want to ask our City Attorney, even though I've already asked her,
the firm that I am employed with has Jungle Island or companies with Jungle Island. I'm not
sure of their relationship, but they're clients of the firm that employs me. I want to make sure that
there are no conflicts of interest. So I pose that question to the City Attorney and with an
abundance of caution, I bring it to everyone's attention.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Right. Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. No. In fact, the way that
you've described the business relationship is the City's tenant or perhaps a company affiliated
with or one of the companies that constitutes the members of the tenant -- because they have
different companies -- may be a client of the firm that you work for. There is no -- as a result of
any discussion here today or any vote that may be taken in the future related to this discussion,
there will be no private gain to you or to any of your relatives.
Vice Chair Carollo: No, ma'am.
Ms. Bru: Therefore, there is no conflict here. There would be no conflict for you to discuss and
subsequently vote on any matter regarding Jungle Island.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. As a matter of fact, I'll go a step further. I met with them a few
months ago andl requested various financial information andl still haven 't gotten it so thank
you.
Ms Bravo: Okay. Well, the idea today is more of a discussion item. The Jungle Island project,
as it is today, began over a decade ago and has different facets that involve different departments
of the City, our Finance, our Asset Management, CDBG (Community Development Block Grant)
because of the Section 108 HUD loan. So this is meant to give an overview of all those different
facets. But just to give a quick status summary because we get asked a lot of questions regarding
the lease and the different loans. So, first of all, the City is responsible as a guarantor of 80
percent share of the HUD Section 108 loan for Parrot Jungle that was originally a $25 million
loan. The County's responsible for the other 20 percent. The current principle balance of this
loan is $15.56 million. That's the loan that we presented the refinancing of back in November.
And so the City's portion of that is 12.448 million. Now Jungle Island also has private sector
loans, so the County and City's interests are subordinated to that of the interest of the private
lender. And as of this moment, Parrot Jungle or Jungle Island is not in default of any of their
obligations to the City. But because of the refinancing of the HUD loan, they are responsible for
the settlement costs associated with that financing, which is $531, 000, approximately. So just as
-- to provide some history and background, in 1995, the relocation expansion of Parrot Jungle
was approved by the voters of the City ofMiami through a public referendum. In September of
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'96, through a resolution, the City formally approved a lease and development agreement for
Parrot Jungle that included the relocation and expansion. In September of 1998, a joint
participation agreement between Miami -Dade County and the City was executed for the Section
108 loan guaranteed application, where the City assumed 80 percent of the loan obligation.
Chair Gort: Let me ask a question.
Ms. Bravo: Yes.
Chair Gort: My understanding when that was originally done, our part -- our portion of the City
was going to be 20 percent.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I think he's right.
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I think he's right, but that -- my rec --
Chair Gort: The City was -- the commitment was 20 percent.
Ms. Bravo: All right.
Chair Gort: So somebody check that. Andl don't know when it was changed to 80/20.
Ms. Bravo: We'll ver --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Ms. Bravo: -- when that may have changed. All right, our lease agreement with Jungle Island
was executed in September of 1997. They took possession October of 2000. And Jungle Island
of course, opened June 2003. The lease agreement is for 45 years, with an end date of
September 2045, with one 15-year option for renewal. And the rent is structured as the greater
of either minimum annual rents or percentage rents. And the first year was 200, 000, 300, 000,
then 400, 000 for each additional year. And once it reached the tenth year, then there's a CPI
(Consumer Price Index) increase. And for the percentage rent, it would be 5 percent of the gross
revenue, up to 20 million; beyond 20 million is 6 percent. However, the lease was amended back
in 2009 and that fourth amendment provided for a deferral of rents. So basically, the rents
between April 1, 2009 and March of 2013 were deferred and are due December 31 in the year
2020. So based on the minimum rents and the CPI adjustment, the minimum due in 2020 would
be 1.9 million. Based on percents of gross, the amount will probably be higher than that. So
during this period of rent deferral, Parrot Jungle is still responsible for the state fees, which is,
again, a sliding percentage scale or minimum of $26, 000 a year. And there's one provision that
if Jungle Island pays off the HUD loan by August of 2020, then a portion of this deferred rent is
eliminated and only 800,000 would have to be paid.
Chair Gort: Come back again with that one.
Ms. Bravo: Hmm?
Chair Gort: Come back again with that one.
Ms. Bravo: Okay. If Parrot Jungle pays its HUD loan in full on or before August 1, 2020 and
the deferred rent minus 800,000 shall convert to a permanent abatement, with that 800,000 to be
paid by December 31, 2020.
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Chair Gort: Okay.
Ms. Bravo: Now the -- some of the HUD Section 108 commitment history. In November of
2003, the City and the County --
Commissioner Sarnoff. I'm sorry. I think you wrote it -- I think what you meant to write was if
they pay the loan by August 1, 2020 -- did you mean to say the deferred rent minus 800,000 shall
convert to a permanent abatement with 800,000 to be paid by December 31, 2020?
Commissioner Suarez: It's kind of confusing, yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Or is it -- did you mean to say the deferred payment shall be 800,000 or
it just now reduce by 800, 000, which would make it 1.1 million?
Ms. Bravo: Right. It'll be --
Ninoshka Reyes (Assistant City Attorney): Reduced --
Ms. Bravo: -- reduced by --
Ms. Reyes: -- by 800, 000.
Ms. Bravo: -- 800, 000.
Ms. Reyes: That 800,000 is a loan that the City gave to the tenant for taxes that were not paid
and tax certificates that were issued by the County in the prior years.
Commissioner Sarnoff. So then my next question then would be if it's reduced by 800, 000, let's
just assume your 1.9 number, then at December 31, 2020, the 1.1 million would have to be then
due and owing?
Ms. Bravo: Correct.
Ms. Reyes: Right.
Ms. Bravo: That's a correction that's needed here. It'll be 1.1.
Ms. Reyes: That's correct.
Ms. Bravo: And it may be higher than that --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Right.
Ms. Bravo: -- based on the gross --
Commissioner Sarnoff. I didn't --
Ms. Bravo: -- percentage of gross.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Right.
Ms. Reyes: And he's actually paying that 800,000 now on a monthly basis 'cause that's a loan.
Ms. Bravo: No. That's something else.
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Ms. Reyes: That's a different 800?
Ms. Bravo: Yes. This -- the deferred rent, the minimum of which is $1.9 million based on
percentage of gross, might be higher than that, if the HUD loan is paid off by August of 2020,
then that deferred rent, whatever the balance is, is reduced by $800, 000 and with the balance
being due December 31, 2020.
Chair Gort: And the balance will be?
Ms. Bravo: At least 1.1 million, perhaps more based on the percent gross structure of the lease.
Sorry about that. All right, so in November of 2003, the City and County jointly executed a letter
to US HUD for consideration to approve the substitution of the City as a guarantor for 80
percent loan guarantee for the Parrot Jungle Island Section 108 loan. Two thousand seven, the
City Commission authorized the Manager to execute that assumption agreement.
Chair Gort: Repeat that paragraph again.
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Chair Gort: Eleven twenty-four.
Ms. Bravo: November 2003, the City and County jointly executed a letter to US HUD for
consideration to approve the substitution of the City as a guarantor for 80 percent loan
guarantee for the Jungle Island Section 108 loan.
Chair Gort: So --
Ms. Bravo: I think before that the loan was officially in the County's name, correct?
Mr. Mensah: Yes. It is still in the County's name. The City just has a percentage, which was
approved by HUD.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you.
Ms. Bravo: So before that there were no HUD documents reflecting the City's involvement in the
HUD loan.
Mr. Mensah: Yes. That's correct.
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Chair Gort: It was the County, and the City commitment was 20 percent. The original loan --
Mr. Mensah: That --
Chair Gort: -- the City ofMiami commitment was 20 percent. It was issued by the County.
Mr. Mensah: I haven't seen the documents going back to that time, so I really don't know.
Chair Gort: Still, my memory, ifI recall, I think that's what it was.
Ms. Reyes: We're reviewing --
Ms. Bravo: We'll verf.
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Ms. Reyes: -- the resolution now approving the HUD loan.
Ms. Bravo: So 2007, the City Commission authorizes the Manager to execute that agreement.
July 2007, the City and County execute the joint participation agreement, which includes
deferral of Parrot Jungle's obligation to pay the HUD loan until February of 2012. So the
amount paid by the City on behalf of Jungle Island as a result of that deferral amounts to $13.8
million. Okay. All right, so to conclude and summarize the public sector debts associated with
Jungle Island, those deferred rents that we just described total obligation to County and City
together is the 17.2 million; 80 percent of that is owed to the City, 20 percent to the County. And
Jungle Island is due to pay that on or before August 1, 2019. However, at that time, they can
elect to defer the payment further at a 5 percent interest rate, and so they would begin paying
monthly installments between January of 2020 and January of 2030, so a 10-year term to pay
that back to the City and the County. So that's basically the payments that have already been
made to HUD by the City and the County in the past. This is when Jungle Island would have to
repay it, between 2020 and 2030, if they do not meet the August 2019 deadline. So now the
HUD loan, the remaining balance from now to the future, that portion Jungle Island is obligated
to repay. The first payment in February of 2012 was a small amount for a interest payment, and
HUD requested that that be paid as part of the settlement costs of the refinancing that took place
in November. So I believe that was a small amount, approximately $9, 000.
Luis Cabrera (Chief of Operations/Assistant City Manager): Nine thousand dollars.
Ms. Bravo: Approximately $9, 000. So the Jungle Island is due to make the first HUD payment
that includes principle and interest in August of 2012, which amounts to roughly $1.5 million.
Now the City granted rent deferral for the period 2009 to 2013. We discussed that. So in April
of 2013, Jungle Island would resume paying rent to the City through their lease. And
additionally, at one point there was a $800, 000 loan structured to assist Jungle Island with
payment of property taxes. So the remaining balance of that is $366,000 that they've been
paying in monthly installments between September of 2009 and August of 2013. Aside from this,
there are amounts that they owe to the County through various loans. And this is just laying out
the proposed payment schedule of the HUD loan that was recently refinanced. So this shows you
that August 2012, they owe a principle and interest payment of 1.5 million. Following February
of 2013, it would be an interest -only payment in the amount of 22, 000, and this alternates into
the future with the last payment in August 2019.
Commissioner Sarnoff. 2019?
Chair Gort: Thank you. Questions?
Commissioner Sarnoff. 2019 or --?
Ms. Bravo: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff. 'Cause you only show through 2015.
Ms. Bravo: Yes. I didn't have enough space for the whole table so we added a note under the
table. The payments continue to alternate between interest and interest only through the last
payment that's an interest and principle payment in August of 2019. So every February and
every August they have to make a payment --
Commissioner Sarnoff. But that won't amortize the loan, will it? It won't take it completely out.
Ms. Bravo: Yes. That will --
Commissioner Sarnoff. It will? That's a --
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Ms. Bravo: Yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff. -- full amortization schedule?
Ms. Bravo: Yes, yes. The refinancing provided for a very low interest rate. Prior to that, the
loan interest rate fluctuated between 7.8 percent and 7.9 percent. So with the refinancing, it
fluctuates between .3 percent and up to 2 percent towards the end of the --
Commissioner Suarez: Free money.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Great loan.
Commissioner Suarez: That's free money basically.
Ms. Bravo: Right.
Commissioner Sarnoff. That's a great loan.
Chair Gort: Can't beat that.
Ms. Bravo: So basically, these are the different aspects associated with the property. Jungle
Island as I mentioned, is responsible for the settlement costs associated with the HUD
refinancing of that loan, so we'll be invoicing for that and we anticipate them making their first
payment in August of 2012. Now this HUD loan, this refinancing is backed by both County and
CDBG funds, so that's what was used to guarantee the loan to HUD.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Can I apply to HUD for a home mortgage?
Chair Gort: Like to refinance -- he'd like to refinance his home mortgage, yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Can you imagine if people got this rate.
Chair Gort: Okay, my understanding -- I'm sorry. This is a discussion item. It's not a public
item.
Grady Muhammad: It's not a public hearing?
Chair Gort: No, sir. Sorry.
Mr. Muhammad: No problem, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: I know you'll get the opportunity some other time. You will.
Ms. Bravo: That concludes my presentation. We're here to answer questions, the entire team, or
provide any additional information that might be needed.
Chair Gort: So my understanding they're supposed to be making a payment next year in
February '12 for a total amount of?
Ms. Bravo: Well, the February one was rolled into the settlement cost, so right now they're
obligated to pay the closing costs of the refinancing, which was roughly $530, 000. And then the
first large-scale payment would be in August of 2012, the 1.5 million, which includes principle
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and interest. Okay, the HUD Section 108 loan, the remaining balance, was refinanced in
November. So the closing costs for that -- HUD requested that the February interest -only
payment, February 2012, be included in the closing costs. So Jungle Island is responsible for
those closing costs, as well as assuming this payment stream starting in August of 2012.
Chair Gort: What I show here, according to the scale here, is total payments of about maybe six
to seven million.
Ms. Bravo: Well, there's a note at the bottom. The -- those -- the alternating payments continue
through August of 2019.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Ms. Bravo: Just ran out of space for the table.
Chair Gort: So at this time, they're not considered in default?
Ms. Bravo: No.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Cabrera: Commissioner --
Chair Gort: Question.
Mr. Cabrera: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Cabrera: At this time, we've also invoiced -- we're invoicing them for the amounts that ACM
(Assistant City Manager) Bravo has stated, so we've invoiced them for a little bit over $531, 000.
Chair Gort: It has to be -- that is due on?
Mr. Cabrera: Due in --
Vice Chair Carollo: February.
Chair Gort: February.
Mr. Cabrera: -- February, correct.
Chair Gort: Okay. All right.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. So -- can I?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. So did we make the payment to HUD with general fund or CDBG
dollars? We did not.
Mr. Cabrera: No. The payment to HUD was made by the County and the County --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. The County invoiced --
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Mr. Cabrera: -- invoices us and we went ahead and forward that to the tenant or the occupant,
which is his responsibility.
Commissioner Sarnoff. I'm just curious, how does the County make the payment, out of general
fund dollars or out of -- yes?
Mr. Mensah: I would say I think so. And the reason why I would say I think so is that the
County had a resolution that said that they cannot use any CDBG funds to pay any obligations of
Parrot Jungle. That's on record.
Commissioner Sarnoff. So the County pays a little over, I'm just thinking, 20 percent above --
there's my mathematician over there -- six hundred something thousand dollars. They invoice us
for 531. Presently, the County is outfrom its general fund and now we're being asked to pay --
we then forward this to Jungle Island. How long has this been out to them?
Mr. Mensah: It just came recently.
Ms. Bravo: I think we just received the final settlement amount.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Have we sent it to them?
Mr. Mensah: Not yet. The City Attorney's office is drafting a letter that will go with it
connecting the participation agreement, citing the relevant portion of the agreement requiring
him to make those payments.
Commissioner Sarnoff. And -- Is it okay?
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Madam City Attorney, are you asking for any kind of estoppels letters or
any kind of acknowledgements as to debts owed and due? And say that -- let me finish 'cause --
I apologize. Ordinarily, when a bank -- you take further loans outfrom a bank, what they do is
they reestablish what they believe to be the amounts then owing and due so that you don't have to
go back in history, 10, 15 years ago. You say, well, you guys just closed on a new loan and it
becomes an estoppels situation. Are you going to do the same thing with Jungle Island?
Ms. Reyes: Yes. At this point, we're going to invoice him for the February payment, which HUD
has required of us, and he has a 30-day cure period you know, to pay that amount, and during
that period, we are going to request of him, you know, the balance due, what the interest is, the
new structure of the loan so that he's aware of --
Commissioner Sarnoff. But I think -- I want to be a little clearer. Maybe you say it better 'cause
maybe you do this for banks. But don't they ordinarily bring up all current outstanding debts as
part of an acknowledgement so that there's no sub -- is that -- what do you guys -- don't you guys
call it an estoppels --?
Ms. Reyes: An estoppels certificate.
Commissioner Suarez: You have to -- yeah, you have to clear the title if you're going to refinance
something; I think is what you're asking. You know, a bank is not going to -- typically not going
to lend money -- and this is not a bank. Remember, this is the federal government, so it may be a
little different. The bank doesn't typically lend money when there are outstanding liens on the
property because they don't want their loan to be subordinate in interest to, particularly when
they're putting out that kind of money, any other rights that are out there.
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Ms. Reyes: Chair, ifI may. I'm sorry. The issue here is that truly the tenant has nothing to do
with this refinance as he's not privy to the documents that this was a HUD loan to the County
and the City and we're refinancing the County and the City with HUD. We have other
agreements with the tenant and so as it pertains to this particular refinance, he's not privy to this
transaction, we are, with HUD. But --
Commissioner Suarez: And he's not (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 2: 41: 06 --
Ms. Reyes: -- vis-a-vis the lease and the participation agreement that the County, the City, and
the tenant signed, he is, you know, liable for those loan payments.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Let me put it -- maybe Suarez can, in a real estate way, rephrase what
I'm trying to say. Seems to me if we have a relationship with somebody and we're invoicing them
for an aspect of that relationship, we should reaffirm the relationship with them as to what is
then owed and due so that they have an opportunity to say to us, no, we don't owe you that
money. Sorry, and we're not going to pay this 500, so then you have an opportunity to say, well,
if you don't think you owe us this amount of money, let's sit down so we can all get on the same
page and say, well, gosh, we didn't know you made that $10 million payment. It seems to me the
banks -- at least my banks that I've dealt with -- andl wish they weren't like this, but they're very
good at this -- they're always good at reestablishing what all my previous debts are to them so
that that is the document that then governs moving forward.
Commissioner Suarez: That -- you explained it fine.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: I have a question, Mr. Chairman, ifI may.
Chair Gort: Yes, go ahead.
Commissioner Suarez: I'm assuming -- and I'll ask the question -- but I'm assuming that there's
an acceleration clause if the February payment is not made or the -- within the grace period that
all sums outstanding, any deals to postpone payments, they'll all become due automatically upon
default.
Ms. Reyes: That's correct. We have an acceleration clause on the leasehold mortgage --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Ms. Reyes: -- and also on the development agreement.
Mr. Cabrera: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Mr. Cabrera: I want to clam a response to Commissioner Sarnoff's question. Commissioner,
staff has informed me that we billed and invoiced the tenant approximately a week ago. So that
was the response to the question you asked.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Yeah, but you -- but you know, I just -- as I sat here, I remembered what
the document's called. And banks call it a reaffirmation of debt. In the document where you
send the invoice, you reaffirm all previous debts owed and due. It's for convenience. It's also to
bring up all issues so that -- let's say for instance they agree to pay this five hundred and
something thousand dollar closing cost, but you say to them -- and forgive me, I don't remember
the exact number. But let's say you say to them you still owe us potentially another 25, $30
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million. And they say, oh, no, we don't. Wouldn't you rather know that issue right then and there
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff. -- so that they can say didn't you get our $10 million check back in July?
Did you misplace it, Mr. Manager? Did you --? You know, and you could say, well, look, we
never got your check. Andl know I'm being a little facetious, but think banks want their debts
reaffirmed for reasons, for a lot of different reasons, some of which are defenses, some of which
are estoppels issues, andl think we should practice just like a bank and re -- and be very careful
so that Finance and our new CFO (Chief Financial Officer) can get out there and say I've looked
at all the documents, this is what we're owed and due, and then you could put your reaffirmation
of debt paragraph, or however you express it, in your invoice for the $500, 000 plus to paid
within -- I don't know what cities usually pay -- 30 days or whatever's acceptable practices.
Commissioner Suarez: The other way it can be done -- or maybe similarly it can be done by
providing them with an amortization schedule. I don't know if you've provided them with a new
amortization schedule because whenever you refinance by definition basically, the maturity
changes -- you know, the terms change to a certain extent. So, you know, to put them on notice
that these are when you have to make your payments and this is how much your payments are.
Chair Gort: Now they're liable for all the payments that have made in the past by the City and
County. Okay. That's what they're talking about. When you send them the documentation, you
making sure they know what's the total loan that they have to pay.
Mr. Cabrera: Mr. Chairman, we will do that. We'll work with the CFO and with the Law
Department to ensure --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Bravo: Mr. Chairman, we were able to confirm that, yes, since a previous document, 1998,
the City was always in a position of guaranteeing 80 percent of the HUD loan.
Chair Gort: Eighty?
Ms. Bravo: This document is a resolution back September 1998 -- or this is the original joint
participation agreement.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just have a few questions, and then I -- I guess I would just want
to hear from the Administration, you know, resolution like what is the recommendation from, you
know, the City Administration on what you guys feel should be our next steps. Even though I
know this is just a discussion but -- Peter, if you can -- Peter Kendrick. Sorry, I forgot we had
two Peters. I don't know if you guys actually seen the consolidated revenues at all, what was
earned, okay. And it says about $104 million over a certain period of time, which is a lot of
money. But let's just say the last year, I'm going to say, 2011, we're talking about almost, what, a
million plus -- no, $12 million, over $12 million actually --
Peter Kendrick (Lease Manager): That is correct. Peter Kendrick, from City ofMiami Public
Facilities Department. Yes, Commissioner. That's correct. They've been doing -- averaging a
minimum of a million dollars a month --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
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Mr. Kendrick: -- in revenue so --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So -- andl understand that we had the abatement and all of the
stuff that was going on. I mean, the arrangements that were kind of made with them as to, you
know -- but I just -- and maybe for the life of me, I'm just not getting it. You know, out of all of
that money they earned, did they not even think once or twice to sit something aside to address
this issue because they knew this day would come? That's my first question. And then part of my
briefings on this issue as my staff and team went through the paperwork on this Parrot Jungle
issue, we know that there was a consolidated statement on what was earned, what was spent, but
one of the things we noticed in the midst of this was the number of companies up under the
Parrot Jungle umbrella. So really, Parrot Jungle really did not -- correct me, Alice, if I'm wrong.
I mean, how many companies was it, like 20 companies?
Ms. Bravo: Right. They presented a consolidated financial statement and it includes
wholly -owned subsidiaries. So they're reporting a gross revenue of those --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Ms. Bravo: -- different entities.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right, but that would -- again, I have -- we have one accountant
on the Commission that would probably be able to drill down further than -- something don't
seem strange about 20 different companies and all of the various companies, you know, and then
all of a sudden, we have this consolidated report. My suggestion or my thought was, have we
thought about doing some sort of forensic accounting on those companies at all to see if what
they're actually earning is what it actually is.
Ms. Bravo: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I mean, I would hope that the individuals that are responsible for
the Parrot Jungle project would not be operating from that perspective. They -- I mean, I know
them over there. They appear to be very good people, you know. But when we sit up and listen
to four hours of people from the community clearly, you know, expressing their concerns about
not being able to feed people, not being able to provide programs for seniors and all of these
things we just listened to for four hours and the only resolution that came out of our briefings
was that we may have to pay this back, you know, and the reality is us paying it back will affect
our future programs, you know, that are already being slashed left and right and the only
recommendation that I'm hearing at this point is that we have to pay it. Something is -- I mean,
we could -- you could show me numbers and presentations all day long, but there's something
very wrong about what's being presented. And I'm not really sure if there is or has been -- and
I'm hoping there has been enough outreach to the group over at Parrot Jungle to have some
compassion around the many of times that we've given them opportunities to do the right thing. I
mean, when does it stop? You tell me you make over $12 million a year and you couldn't set
aside something to assist with this debt? I mean -- and what's even more so to me discouraging
and upsetting and disappointing is a better word is that we 're having this discussion about an
item that has something to do with them and they're not here. You understand? Andl know they
know the item's on the agenda. When you needed the extension and you needed the -- us to abate
everything, you were here knocking on every single person's door. And now when it boils -- I'm
not making staff responsible for it. I understand, you know, but -- I mean, when does it end?
Ms. Bravo: I'd like to --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You're not here now. Andl know that it was at least two
Commissioners up here during that period when they came and, you know, they were beating our
doors down asking for us to give them a little bit more time.
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Ms. Bravo: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And now we're here and now we got people starving on the streets
and their solution or the only solution we have is, okay, let's just go ahead and pay the HUD
loan. So now our HUD -based programs that we get, you know, they're going to be greater
reduced.
Ms. Bravo: And since -- at this time, based on our agreements and all the different deferrals of
rents and loan payments, et cetera, this was the first fiscal year of the City in which it was Jungle
Island's obligation to start assuming these payments. The City has not budgeted for the 80
percent share. Likewise, the County has not budgeted for a 20 percent share because the
agreements stipulate that this is when Jungle Island begins to make payment on these
obligations. So we fully anticipate them to meet those obligations, and if they don't, we will take
every action that we can to defend our interest.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, but I mean, based upon my briefings -- I'm sorry --
Chair Gort: Yes, go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- Mr. Chairman. But based upon my briefings, I mean, nothing
really can happen to them at this point. At this point, you know, if any -- if it does not happen, it
goes -- the first position belongs to who?
Ms. Bravo: A private bank.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So, I mean, so what are our --? I'm just waiting -- I'd just like to
hear from the Administration like what is our options? I mean, are we -- have we -- I guess this
is the better question for me. Beyond this item coming on the agenda today, did anybody
outreach to the Parrot Jungle folks to say how can we work this out? Did that outreach happen
this week?
Ms. Bravo: We've had discussions with them. They've --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know.
Ms. Bravo: -- approached us. We're also in discussions with the County, andl think we're in
lockstep with the County and that we're no longer able to defer payment or forgive any debts
associated with this project.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know, but --
Ms. Bravo: So it's -- again --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Alice.
Ms. Bravo: -- they're due to make the payments and we're preparing ourselves in case they do
not for whatever legal remedies are available to us.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. I guess the question is -- I know that you've had several
conversations over a certain period of time, but before the item came on -- because it just seems
like there should have been like a very detailed conversation before it came in front of us about a
discussion on this to say, look, we went -- we met with them. We really tried to find some sort of
resolution to kind of address it and this was the last comments that -- this was the last discussion
we had this week itself. Did that happen this week? Or was the resolution more about
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discussing it with the County to find, you know, possible options to address, you know, what
they're doing? Was that the resolution? Is that what you guys decided to do instead? Did you
meet with Parrot Jungle this week? I guess that's the question.
Ms. Bravo: Not this week, no. We've met with them recently. We met with the County recently.
In the most recent discussion with Jungle Island, they're interested in further debt deferral or
forgiveness. So those are not palatable options to the City nor to the County.
Commissioner Sarnoff. But can I just pipe in? That's why I think it's imperative that as part of
-- part and parcel and substance in your request for payment needs to be a reaffirmation of debt.
If they cannot concede and agree that that debt is existing -- you know, I'm not asking you to
pad. I'm saying get it dead accurate. Get whatever documents -- not what people's memories
are, but whatever the documents demonstrate, put that debt -- if you need an amortization
schedule, so be it. If you don't, that's okay too. But get a reaffirmation of debt so that this can
come to a head sooner than later so we can know not just that the five hundred and thirty
something thousand dollars is unacceptable to them, but everything else is as well so every
Commissioner up here -- 'cause you're going to come here some day and you're going to say they
agreed to 95 percent of what I said, except for this $2, 000 loan here, and we might kind of laugh
and say okay. Or they might say, you know what, did you guys miss a $10 million payment? We
know we're at odds with each other. I think what Commissioner Spence -Jones andl think
everybody up here is -- the sooner we get to that place in time, the better. And the only way I
know how to do that is a reaffirmation of debt.
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I mean, I can't even understand how these people are making over
$12 million and, you know, there's not even a thought process over the last four years that, hey,
we need to save something and put something aside to address this issue because we know it's
coming. It's almost like the assumption was that they knew we were going to take care of it
anyway. It's disrespectful. And you know, to me, even today, you know, the reality is that I do
believe that we should have definitely encouraged for them to come here and address the
Commission when they wanted to address us to deal with all the other issues. I mean, I'm going
to be fighting tooth and nail for not one dime to be paid from, you know -- paid back to HUD on
this issue because it's going to affect all of us.
Ms. Bravo: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And the whole purpose of it is to make sure that, you know, we
provide services to, you know, our residents. And everything that Parrot Jungle promised to do
just did not happen. So -- and then my question becomes the even bigger thing, have they
defaulted on any other issues besides the payment? Did they meet the job requirement? Did we
-- do we have a full analysis on whether or not they've done the things that they said that they
would do in the agreement? Is there an analysis --? I mean, we're talking about the money part
of it, which I think is extremely important because, quite frankly, we're in a financial situation
right now. But I mean, I would like to at least understand if they defaulted on other issues
because the Section 108 loan is clear.
Ms. Bravo: It has employment requirements.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: There're things that they have -- obligations that they must meet.
Mr. Mensah: George Mensah, director of Community Development. The County is the one that
has -- even though the City, which is -- unfortunately, you know, the City has the 80 percent of
the debt, the County actually the one -- since they've been dealing with this from year one, they're
the ones that made the account to HUD. And according to the County, there's no -- that they've
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met all their job obligations.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, but George, let me ask you something. If we're paying 80
percent of anything, okay, and the County's on the hook for 20 percent of anything, to me it
would seem as though on -- even if they're doing it, we should know that information like
offhand. And quite frankly, if we're on the hook for 80 percent, I would have liked to see 80
percent of the jobs come from the City ofMiami.
Mr. Mensah: What I will do based on this is to maybe do a formal letter to HUD to inquire from
HUD because -- whether the County -- whether Parrot Jungle has met their job creation
responsibility under the Section 108 loan. The last time the City was involved in this was 2007,
when we provided the $800, 000. At that time, they were required to maintain a minimum of 400
jobs, which they provided -- we have a list of the 400 jobs, which they provided, including their
payroll, and so to us those jobs were met. But in terms of the HUD loan --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: In 2000 -- what year was that?
Mr. Mensah: -- itself --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: What was that -- what year was that, George?
Mr. Mensah: 2007, I believe it was.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So that's what, five -- almost five years ago?
Mr. Mensah: 2007 is when --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: They gave you the report.
Mr. Mensah: -- they gave them the -- when they gave them the funding, the funding
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) $800, 000, that's when it was required for them to provide proof that they
are employing 400 people --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, and then --
Mr. Mensah: -- and they provided that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- my question goes to Sasha on -- or the City Attorney that's
handling it. What's our -- I mean, what is -- what's the remedy for the City if they have not met
all the obligations outside of the money, you know, if they have not met the obligations of the
jobs? Andl don't know what the other, you know, major issues are for them in the Section 108
that they have to adhere to.
Ms. Reyes: Our remedies would be the same as any other --
Mr. Mensah: It's only job creation.
Ms. Reyes: -- affordable housing.
Mr. Mensah: Section 108 is mostly job creation. And if they've met all the job creation
requirement, then that's the end of it. If they haven't --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Then what happens to them?
Mr. Mensah: -- at that time and HUD says they haven't, then the funds have to be paid back.
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But this is -- goes years ago and they've been operating for a very long time.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Mensah: Andl know that HUD even used the Parrot Jungle as an example of a very
successful Section 108 loan at that time. So -- and that was probably 2005. I was just here,
brand new, and I went to that event. So if HUD -- if they hadn't met those goals, I doubt HUD
would have done that. But I'll vernj, from HUD to ensure that those goals were met.
Chair Gort: Let me --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I'm done, Mr. Chairman. I just want to
close out. Only thing would ask for in the midst of all of this is that we do -- andl know we
have a CFO. We're glad to see the CFO join us. I guess this is her first -- is this your first City --
yeah, it's your first City Commission meeting, so welcome aboard. And we are very thankful and
grateful to have you here, right, Commissioner Carollo?
Commissioner Sarnoff. She was scribbling on something pink there a minute ago.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But I'm hoping that there's some way that we can definitely do a
drill down on all these other companies that's associated with Parrot Jungle because I'm -- you
know, what I'm being told is that all the other companies are actually making money, but Parrot
Jungle, the entity, is not or not showing that it's making money. Andl would really like to know
that information, and if there's any way that we can address that, I would really greatly
appreciate it. Because I would hope that they are operating from, you know, a fair and just
position and not further trying to take something -from people that clearly need it in our
community. So I would ask that we definitely, Mr. City Manager and our CFO, if there's any
way we can drill down on that, I really would appreciate it. And then last, but not least, and then
I'm done with the issue, George, I know that you andl talked about, you know, the plan for
Parrot Jungle, and at one time or the other, you were in search of a company to come in and do
an assessment with Parrot Jungle to figure out, you know, some better way or some -- to adjust
how the actual facility is being ran, like other cities have done with major facilities like this to
see how more money can be generated from a facility like this. So I don't know if you have any
updates on where you are with that or if that's something that the City Administration is working
on so that we don't find ourselves in this position again.
Mr. Mensah: Yes. At a meeting of the Administration trying to look at what the next thing would
be -- I know that two years ago when I was working on the $800, 000 loan, I mean, I was just
brought in so I reviewed the financial statement andl looked at it andl said, well, this doesn't
seem to be on the books of what I see a very sustainable business model. So the suggestion was
to bring in a consultant, somebody who knows that type of business model to give us idea on,
first of all, the operations of that particular business and why it's not doing as well as it could
have and then give us advice on -- to the City as to what would be the -- how they can advise us
to do. And when this thing happened, I spoke to -- the City Attorney's office felt the same way,
that we needed somebody with the expertise in this particular arena, and so we're going to work
on it to ensure that we bring in somebody to just take a look at the entire operation and be able
to advise us on what the City can do on that particular business side.
Chair Gort: George, we pay 80 percent of the loan. I think we should have 80 percent of the
information or more or our input should be 80 percent. At the same time, I want to make sure the
Administration, when you deliver this letter to them, to let them know what the -- what they have
to pay, when they have to pay. At the same time, I imagine you working with a plan if payments
are not made and default takes place, plan number [sic] B, we got to be implemented. At the
same time, I think we got plenty of people in Florida that knows about the -- that type of
business. I mean, all you have to do is go to Orlando and there's quite a few people there that
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can tell you how to be successful. Commissioner Sarnoff.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I -- just one last recommendation and I'll -- it's not what do for a
living, but I've done it a couple times. I think you should treat this like a closing. I would put
together a reaffirmation of debt. I'd put together a schedule of every basis upon which you think
they owe us money, hand it to them like a closing document, in a binder, so that if they agree that
this -- so that they make payment. Two things happen. One is I would make them reaffirm the
debt in writing so I'd have a placeholder under my letter that says we reaffirm the debt right
there so it's on the document with the attachments. It makes your lives a lot simpler in the future
and it just requires a lot of work right now, but I think you know where you might be come
February or you might know where you might be in January. You might know where you're
going to be very quickly. So why don't you get in front of the issue now, put together a closing
binder, put together reaffirmation of debt so that come February, you can come to this
Commission and say, here's the 500. They didn't agree with this. Here's the other reaffirmation
of debt; they didn't agree with that. And then you could come to us and say, based on paragraph
of this and paragraph this, I hereby recommend we do whatever it is we do.
Mr. Cabrera: Commissioner, we will do that and we'll follow the Commission's direction.
Additionally, the Administration has been discussing several options. We're not ready to put
those options out now for several reasons, but I will say this. We're going to be aggressive and
we're going to ensure that we do the right thing, that we know what the numbers are, where --
how they've managed this organization and to ensure that there's not profits being made and
debts being ignored. So without disclosing too much, you know, the Administration is going to
follow up on these items.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Further discussion? Thank you all. Do I have a motion to adjourn?
Vice Chair Carollo: So move.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. So -- second.
Chair Gort: It's moved. Thank you.
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DISCUSSION ITEM
COMMISSIONER SUAREZ ACKNOWLEDGED THE PRESENCE, IN THE
MIAMI CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, OF SUE LOYZELLE,
COUNCILMEMBER FOR THE CITY OF CUTLER BAY.
DISCUSSED
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Gort: Yes. Sorry.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. I just wanted to recognize Sue Loyzelle, who's a
councilmember from Cutler Bay, who's here with us today. I just wanted to --
Chair Gort: Oh, I'm sorry. I --
Commissioner Suarez: It's okay.
Chair Gort: -- missed you.
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Commissioner Suarez: No. It's okay.
Chair Gort: Pleasure to have you with us. Thank you.
ADJOURNMENT
The special meeting was adjourned at 3: 06p.m.
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