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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, November 17, 2011
2:00 PM
PLANNING AND ZONING
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Chairman
Frank Carollo, Vice -Chairman
Marc David Sarnoff, Commissioner District Two
Francis Suarez, Commissioner District Four
Michelle Spence -Jones, Commissioner District Five
Johnny Martinez, City Manager
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes November 17, 2011
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Chairman Gort, Commissioner Sarnoff, Vice Chairman Carollo, Commissioner Suarez
and Commissioner Spence -Jones
On the 17th day of November 2011, the City Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular
session. The Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting was called to order by Chair Gort at
5:44 p.m., recessed at 9:44 p.m, reconvened at 10: 41 p.m., and adjourned at 10:42 p.m.
Note for the Record: Commissioner Suarez entered the Commission chambers at 6:13 p.m., and
Commissioner Spence -Jones entered the chambers at 6: 34 p.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Johnny Martinez, P.E., City Manager
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
ORDER OF THE DAY
Chair Gort: PZ.3, I understand that this will be a second reading. It'll be a fast one.
Maria J Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: PZ.3.
Ms. Chiaro: Mr. Chair, ifI --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: -- may read the procedures to be followed --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: -- during the PZ (Planning & Zoning) meeting. The hearing procedures for all
Planning & Zoning items shall proceed pursuant to Section 7.1.4.5 of the City code. All those
wishing to speak shall be sworn by the City Clerk. The City ofMiami requires that anyone
requesting action by the City Commission must disclose before the hearing anything provided to
anyone for agreement to support or withhold objection to the requested action. Any documents
offered to the City Commissioners that have not been provided seven days before the meeting as
part of the agenda materials will be entered into the record at the City Commission's discretion.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Ladies and gentlemen, if you are going to be testing on
any of the PZ items on the agenda, I need you to please stand and raise your right hand so that
can swear you in. If you're testing, you need to stand and raise your right hand.
The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those persons giving
testimony on zoning issues.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
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Chair Gort: Thank you. PZ.3.
Francisco Garcia: Mr. Chair, for the record, Francisco Garcia, Planning and Zoning director.
If it please the Commission, I would like to request continuances for the last three items quickly,
and perhaps we can then move --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Garcia: -- on with the -- with PZ.3 as the first item. This is simply to request a continuance
of items PZ.15 and PZ.16, which are companion items. And our request is that they be continued
to the meeting in January, January 26. That's the P and Z meeting in the month of January of
next year. Andl believe the applicants are here and they concur with us that it is best to
continue for purposes of meeting with the stakeholders in the neighborhood.
Chair Gort: Okay, thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Need a motion. So move.
Chair Gort: Need a motion, yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Vice Chairman Carollo and second by Commissioner Sarnoff.
All in favor, state it by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Thompson: And that motion was for PZ.15 and 16.
Chair Gort: 16.
Ms. Thompson: Is that correct?
Chair Gort: Right.
Mr. Garcia: That is correct.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you.
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PZ.1
10-00612ww
PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), MAKING FINDINGS AND APPROVING A MODIFICATION
OF THE REQUIRED WATERFRONT CHARTER PROVISIONS RELATING TO
THE SETBACKS: 1) AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 3(MM)(I)(B) OF THE
CHARTER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED ("CHARTER"),
MODIFYING THE WATERFRONT SIDE -YARD REQUIREMENT OF
TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT (25%) OF THE WATER FRONTAGE OF EACH
LOT, BASED ON AVERAGE LOT WIDTH OF 276.2 FEET, AS FOLLOWS:
WATERFRONT SIDE -YARD SETBACKS REQUIRED 69'0", PROPOSED EAST
5'0", PROPOSED WEST 8'0", PROPOSED VIEW CORRIDOR (CENTER) 52'7"
(TOTAL PROPOSED 65'7"), REQUEST TO MODIFY 3'5"; AND 2) AS SET
FORTH IN SECTION 3(MM)(I)(A) OF THE CHARTER, MODIFYING THE
REQUIRED WATERFRONT SETBACK OF 13'6.4", PROPOSED 13'1.8",
REQUEST TO MODIFY 0'4.6"; FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 39 AND 55 SOUTHWEST MIAMI AVENUE ROAD, MIAMI,
FLORI DA.
10-00612ww CC 11-17-11 Fact Sheet.pdf
1 0-00612ww Analysis & Maps.pdf
10-00612ww Miami River Commission Ltr, WAB & PZAB Resos.pdf
1 0-00612ww Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
10-00612ww CC Executed Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
10-00612ww-Submittal-Ben Fernandez -Architectural Plans for Big Fish.pdf
10-00612ww-Submittal-Letter from Miami River Commission.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 39 & 55 SW Miami Avenue Road [Commissioner
Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Ben Fernandez, Esquire, on behalf of 55 SW Miami Avenue
Road, LLC (Owner)
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
MIAMI RIVER COMMISSION: Recommends approval on July 11, 2011 by a
vote of 7-4.
WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD (WAB): Recommends approval with a
condition* on July 12, 2011 by a vote of 7-1.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD (PZAB): Recommends approval
with conditions* on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 9-0.
*See WAB and PZAB Resolutions.
PURPOSE: This will allow the construction of a new waterfront -commercial
building along the Miami River for the Big Fish Restaurant project.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-11-0474
Chair Gort: PZ.1.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Thank you, sir. Next item is PZ.1. This is a request for
waterfront waivers pursuant to the charter of the City ofMiami for a property at 39th and 55
Southwest Miami Avenue for a restaurant that once existed and will hopefully soon exist again
called Big Fish. The requests are two; one is for a waterfront waiver and the other one is for a
side setback waiver, also pursuant to the charter. This particular proposal has been reviewed by
numerous boards, among them -- and while they set up, I will share with you that the Waterfront
Advisory Board has reviewed it, the Urban Development Review Board, the Miami River
Commission, as well as the Planning, Zoning and Appeals Board, and all of them have
recommended favorably for approval to this Commission. It is our recommendation -- and I'll
close with this, Commissioner Carollo -- in the Planning and Zoning Department that the item be
approved. There will be one particular item that we would like to bring up as part of the
discussion today, which pertains to the hours of access being provided for the public spaces, and
as a result of that, our recommendation will be for approval with the provisions that we will
discuss today regarding public access.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Something that came up in the last Miami River Commission meeting and
now catches my ear because you said that the different boards that have approved this. It's my
understanding that what the Miami River Commission approved was something different from
what is being shown here, and you know, I would yield or ask the chairman that is the executive
director of the Miami River Commission, you know, can come forward and maybe explain a little
further, if possible.
Mr. Garcia: While the package is being distributed, I would only like to add for the record that
as design proposals or development proposals travel through the entitlement process, revisions
are frequently made and they go through different boards, and attempt to the best of their ability
to incorporate the recommendations of the board so it is ultimately inevitable more often than
not that the plans that you see at the City Commission der slightly from those presented
previously because, once again, they reflect the changes that have been made throughout.
Having said that, of course, this is the place to discuss those fine details.
Chair Gort: Okay. Yes, sir.
Horacio Stuart Aguirre: Mr. Chairman, Mr. Vice Chairman, Commissioners, Horacio Stuart
Aguirre, as chairman of the Miami River Commission. We thank Vice Chairman Carollo for his
opening remarks. Yes, way too often we have observed at the Miami River Commission that we
approve one set of plans or one set of proposals and concepts, and they come back to the Miami
City Commission in a totally different form with significant variances and very often omitting key
elements that are critical to the mission of the Miami River Commission. So Vice Chairman
Carollo is correct. In this particular case, we asked the vice chairman of the Miami River
Commission to draft a letter -- he is a skilled writer with legal background -- incorporating the
recommendations of the Miami River Commission that were originally intended. Those are the
recommendations thatMr. Francisco Garcia alludes to very clearly and they will be part of a
letter signed by me on behalf of the Miami River Commission with the recommendations thatMr.
Garcia instructs. And these have been agreed upon, it's my understanding, by the developer and
developer's counsel. I'll ask Mr. Brett Bibeau if it -- this -- would this be the right time or would
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you rather have opening remarks first?
Chair Gort: Let's have the opening remarks, then they can -- if they agree with it, they can
incorporate it in.
Mr. Aguirre: All right. Thank you, sir.
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Ben Fernandez: Thank you. Mr. Chair, members of the Commission, Ben Fernandez, 200 South
Biscayne Boulevard, here on behalf of the property owner, 55 Southwest Miami Avenue Road,
LLC (Limited Liability Company). Just for the record, we have been meeting with Mr. Bibeau on
some additional wording that we propose be added as a condition of approval to the resolution.
It's stated in the letter that he distributed to you and we are fully supportive of that language . I
think it's just an evolution of what we initially presented to the Miami River Commission and that
they voted for approval of. As your Planning director indicated, this application has been to
various boards, including the Planning, Zoning, Appeals Board, the internal design review
committee, the Waterfront Advisory Board, and everyone has recommended approval of the
project. I think it's a fantastic addition to the river. If any -- if for any reason because it is a
two-story project in a transect that allows greater than 48 stories of height and 80 percent lot
coverage, and what you have before you is a project that is only at 50 percent lot coverage
because it's two separate buildings. It almost complies with the waterfront side setback
requirements, which are pretty intense, particularly for a very shallow lot such as this. It's only
55 feet deep. And it also complies with the river walk setback requirements. It's off by inches.
So, really, the modification that we're asking for this evening is a modification that is less than
half of a percent in the aggregate of what the charter requires for waterfront properties. We
think that the issue is really a non -issue. It's a de minimis variance. The standard for you to
consider in the charter for this type of modification is on this gigantic board that is in front of
you, and it basically asks you to look at whether or not the project provides public benefits, such
as direct public access, public walkways, plaza dedications, covered parking up to the floodplain
level or comparable benefits which promote a better urban environment, public advantages, or
which preserve natural features. In this case, I can have the architect walk you through the
project, but I will just tell you briefly that we are providing three independent access points to the
river; one on the west end of the project, one on the east end of the project, and one right in the
middle of the project. The condition that we've agreed to with the Miami River Commission will
ensure that at least two of those access points are available to the public from sun -- from 8 a.m.
till closing essentially. And we think that we're providing public benefits in that we are
improving what CIP (Capital Improvements Program) was doing to the South Miami Avenue
Road portion of the property. We're burying power lines. We're also paying for sidewalk
improvements, and we are preserving a large shade tree that is on this site that has always been
part of the Big Fish site. So, really, in conclusion, I think the main benefit is that you're
continuing to get what is an iconic restaurant on the river in line with Garcia's and some of the
others. We're keeping that as part of the Miami tradition. It's going to maintain view corridors
from important projects across the river so that you don't get the canyon effect that you get in
other cities, like when you go up the Intercoastal in Aventura that you've got just walls of
condominiums. So you're going to have a nice break in the river. Andl think that just for those
reasons this project merits your consideration and approval. And we're here to answer any
questions that you have. Andl can have the architect walk you through the project. I know it's a
long evening for you, so I'll leave it to your discretion. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a notion. I'd like to make a motion to
approve it with the following language. All river walk, two side yards and middle corridor shall
be publicly accessible. The entire river walk, two side yards and middle corridor shall be open,
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publicly accessible when either the restaurant, cafe, and/or lounge are open. At a minimum, the
entire river walk and two side yards shall be publicly accessible from 8 a.m., regardless of the
business opening time, onward to business closing time or sundown, whichever comes later. I'd
equally include that the two side setbacks shall be not less than six feet.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Okay. It's been moved and second. This is a public hearing. Anyone in the public
would like to address this Commission on this issue? Anyone in the public would like to address
-- 2
Mr. Aguirre: Mr. Chairman, Horacio Stuart Aguirre again, as chairman of the Miami River
Commission. Mr. Vice Chairman and Commissioner. We accept your recommendations and
amendments, Commissioner Sarnoff. Those are, indeed, embodied in my letter andl believe a
copy has been handed to you. Since you have a copy, I will spare you the time to go over and
read it, unless Mr. Bibeau has other comments.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Aguirre: Thank you, gentlemen.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Anyone else? Close the public hearings [sic]. There's a motion and a second. All
in favor, state it by saying iiye. "
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): That is --
Chair Gort: Good luck.
Ms. Thompson: -- Chair, that's adopted as modified.
Chair Gort: Yes, as modified.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Yes.
PZ.2 RESOLUTION
04-00897cr
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING A RELEASE TO A DECLARATION OF
RESTRICTIONS ("COVENANT") DATED DECEMBER 20, 2004 AND
RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK 22923, PAGES 3035-3038, OF
THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA, FOR THE
PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2255, 2263 & 2295
SOUTHWEST 37TH AVENUE; 3685 & 3695 SOUTHWEST 23RD STREET;
AND 3672 & 3688 SOUTHWEST 22ND TERRACE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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04-00897cr CC 11-17-11 Fact Sheet.pdf
04-00897cr Analysis.pdf
04-00897cr Maps.pdf
04-00897cr Application & Supporting Documents. pdf
04-00897cr CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 2255, 2263 & 2295 SW 37th Avenue; 3685 & 3695
SW 23rd Street; and 3672 & 3688 SW 22nd Terrace [Commissioner Francis
Suarez - District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Patricia M. Baloyra, Esquire, on behalf of Berkley Investment
Holdings, LLC
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval to City
Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0.
PURPOSE: This will allow the release of the above -mentioned covenant
relating to all the properties herein specified and previously -approved
multifamily residential building with a maximum F.A.R. of 2.4 for the entire
properties. The current Miami 21 zoning designation allows for an F.L.R. of 5
with a "T6-8-O" Urban Core Zone designation. Releasing this covenant will not
impact the approved zoning.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
R-11-0475
Chair Gort: PZ.1.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Sir, may I request that PZ.2 be the next item heard. We
expect that that also will be a very quick item to hear.
Chair Gort: Which one?
Mr. Garcia: PZ.2. It is simply a release of covenant.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you. Item PZ.2 is a petition to release a covenant approved by the City
Commission for a property at the address of 2255, -63, -95 Southwest 37th Avenue and others
nearby. The reason for this request is the covenant was actually a part of a Major Use Special
Permit approved under Zoning Ordinance 11000. However, that proposal for development has
since been abandoned and the applicants are now coming in with a new development proposal
that is intended to comply fully with Miami 21. Because the new project no longer needs that
covenant attached to it, they are now petitioning for a release of the covenant. We are
recommending approval of that petition.
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Chair Gort: Okay. Yes, ma'am.
Patricia Baloyra: Good evening. Patty Baloyra, Brown & Cassel, offices at 1 Biscayne Tower.
I can answer any questions you may have. Basically, we're just trying to clear up title. You --
the property already received a waiver earlier this year to develop the property in compliance
with Miami 21. This covenant that's still on the property ties it to a development that's no longer
being pursued
Chair Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: I think this is district --
Chair Gort: This is Commissioner Suarez's district.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- Commissioner Suarez district. I -- you know, I would like to defer to him
or at least wait for him to be present since it's his district, out of courtesy.
Chair Gort: Definitely. Commissioner, we need you. Do we have any other quick ones?
Mr. Garcia: My apologies. Not as quick as these.
Chair Gort: Okay. Let's wait a minute and see if he gets in. I have a -- Commissioner staff has
said it's all right for us to go on.
Vice Chair Carollo: If that's the case --
Chair Gort: That was in conversation with Commissioner Suarez. Their staff talked to him and
said it was fine to --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. To hear it?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: It's been moved and second.
Maria 1 Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): A resolution. It is a resolution.
Chair Gort: A resolution. All in favor, state it by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Baloyra: Thanks very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
PZ.3 ORDINANCE
11-00698zc
Second Reading
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AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T5-L" URBAN CENTER ZONE AND "T6-8-O" URBAN CORE ZONE TO
"T5-O" URBAN CENTER ZONE FOR THE SOUTH PORTION ONLY FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 690 SOUTHWEST 8TH
STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00698zc CC 11-17-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
11-00698zcAnalysis, Maps, School Concurrency & PZAB Reso.pdf
11-00698zcApplication & Supporting Documents.pdf
11-00698zc CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 690 SW 8th Street [Commissioner Frank Carollo -
District 3]
APPLICANT(S): Mario Murgado, Owner, on behalf of Miami Automotive Retail,
Inc.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with a
modification to change the south portion only to "T5-O" on September 26, 2011
by a vote of 7-0.
PURPOSE: This will change the zoning designation of the south portion of the
property from T5-L "Urban Center Zone -Limited" to T5-O "Urban Center
Zone -Open", which will allow for a zoning designation at the subject property
that matches its current use.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
13292
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Item PZ.3 is a proposal for the rezoning of a property at
approximately 690 Southwest 8th Street. The proposal is -- as presented to you, is to take a
parcel which straddles a zoning boundary and so half of it is zoned presently T 6-8 and the other
half is T5 L. And the proposal before you is for a rezoning to T5 O for both halves of the parcel.
However, both the Planning, Zoning and Appeals Board unanimously and the Planning
Department recommend that you consider rezoning only the south part of the lot to T5 0, while
leaving the north part of the lot, which fronts 8th Street, to T6-8 O. In that regard, then the T6-8
0 zoning that occurs along 8th Street will remain intact and they will be able to make the
improvements to the property that they seek to make. With that, I'll yield to the applicant. Our
recommendation is approval, and I'll certainly answer any questions you may have.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Mario Murgado: Hi. Mario Murgado, Brickell Motors. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
Commissioners. We're fine with that recommendation and ready to move forward.
Chair Gort: Okay.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Move it.
Chair Gort: It's been moved. Second?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Gort: Anyone in the public would like to address this issue? Showing none, all in favor,
state it by -- that was an ordinance. Read it.
Vice Chair Carollo: It's an ordinance.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call on the second reading ordinance.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading, 3-0.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Murgado: Thank you, Commissioners, and a wonderful Thanksgiving to you and your
family.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
PZ.4 ORDINANCE
11-00806zt
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO.13114, THE MIAMI 21 CODE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY MODIFYING ARTICLE
1, SECTION 1.2. ENTITLED "DEFINITION OF TERMS" AND ARTICLE 3,
SECTION 3.6.3, ENTITLED "ADDITIONAL OFF-STREET PARKING
REGULATIONS", TO ESTABLISH CONDITIONS AND STATIONING
REQUIREMENTS FOR RECREATIONAL WATERCRAFTS IN T3 AND T4
ZONES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00806zt CC 11-17-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00806zt PZAB (10-00963zt1) Reso & CC Legislation (Ver. 1).pdf
LOCATION: Citywide
APPLICANT(S): Johnny Martinez, City Manager, on behalf of the City of Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: For File ID 10-00963zt1,
recommended approval to City Commission on May 18, 2011 by a vote of 7-1.
PURPOSE: This will establish equivalent regulations and requirements from
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former Zoning Ordinance No. 11000 and place them in the Miami 21 Code;
more specifically, to establish conditions and requirements for pleasure water
crafts in T3 and T4 Transect Zones.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item PZ.4 was deferred to the January 26, 2012, City Commission meeting.
Chair Gort: Okay, PZ.4.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Thank you, sir. Item PZ.4 is proposed amendment to
Miami 21, the zoning ordinance. This is a bit of an afterthought, but I'll share it with you for
your consideration. This you might be familiar with as a watercraft related amendment which
seeks to regulate how or if watercraft can be stationed on single-family residential properties on
the side yards and the rear yards. As we have continued to do research, we have identified some,
shall we say, shortcomings of the proposed ordinance and frankly, we would benefit from some
additional time to reconsider some of its aspects. So if the Commission is not adverse to it, we
would like to request a continuance of this item perhaps to the month of January, January 26.
Commissioner Sarnoff. So moved.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: It's moved and second. Public hearings [sic]. Anyone would like to discuss this
issue? None --
Horacio Stuart Aguirre: Horacio Stuart Aguirre, Miami River Commission chairman. We
respectfully recommend those continuance motions by Mr. Garcia.
Chair Gort: Thank you. All in favor, state it by saying "aye.
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
PZ.5 ORDINANCE
08-00166zc1
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN, "T4-R" GENERAL URBAN, "T5-0" URBAN CENTER,
AND "CS" CIVIC SPACE TRANSECT ZONES WITH A "VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL AND "0" OFFICE WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND
SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT, "SD-12" SPECIAL BUFFER OVERLAY
DISTRICT, AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000) TO
"T6-8-O" URBAN CORE TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND
AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION
DISTRICT) OVERLAY, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B", ("C-1" RESTRICTED
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COMMERCIAL WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND SPECIAL
OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS
DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3400, 3428, 3440, 3432, 3456, AND 3396 GRAND
AVENUE; 3241, 3401, 3435, 3441 AND 3445 HIBISCUS STREET; 3441, 3439,
3407, AND 3454 THOMAS AVENUE; AND 3420 ELIZABETH STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE;
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc1 CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc1 Analysis.pdf
08-00166zc1 PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc1 Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc1 CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc1 Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics).pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3400, 3428, 3440, 3432, 3456, 3396 and Grand
Avenue; 3241, 3401, 3435, 3441 and 3445 Hibiscus Street; 3441, 3439, 3407,
and 3454 Thomas Avenue; and 3420 Elizabeth Street (Paradise Island Block -
Front) [Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village, LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GV Paradise Island, LLC, Paradise Island Development
Corp., City of Miami, George and Dazelle Simpson, Evelyn Roberts, Collectively
Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File IDs 08-00166zc1a, 08-00166zc2, 08-00166zc3, 08-00166zc4
and 08-00166zc5.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T6-8-O" Urban Core
Transect Zone with a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD-2" Overlay,
as depicted in "Exhibit B", for the proposed Grove Village Major Use Special
Permit.
NOTE(S): On October 28, 2010, the City Commission adopted the companion
Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Gort: PZ.5.
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): Thank you, sir.
Chair Gort: First reading.
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Mr. Garcia: Items PZ.5 through PZ.10 are companion items. These are zoning changes,
proposed zoning changes for a project that has come to be known as Grove Village, and they
take place along Grand Avenue, both on the north side and the south side of Grand Avenue, and
to the north, they bound with Florida Avenue, and to the south, with Thomas Avenue, although
one of the parcels actually crosses over. What I would like do as the applicants are setting up is
go through a couple of the key aspects of the path traveled so far by this application, and
highlight the fact that this project has over the last, certainly the time I've been here, so the last
year and a half, but even before that, been considered by a number of different boards and has
been to the community, to the immediate neighbors and to the property owners and stakeholders
of the area a number of times. The project has evolved. We've seen many iterations, andl would
like to say that it has consistently evolved in an improved fashion. It has been reviewed by the
Historic and Environmental Preservation Board, by the Urban Development Review Board, by
the Consolidated Review Committee of the City ofMiami, and by the Planning, Zoning and
Appeals Board, and all of these boards, in one form or another, have recommended approval of
this project, albeit with certain conditions. Many of those conditions, as the project has moved
forward, have been incorporated into the project and have been resolved as part of the redesign
of the project. As I see the applicants are set up and ready to go, I will conclude my brief
introduction by saying a couple of -- making a couple of remarks. This is frankly an
unprecedented opportunity for the Grand Avenue corridor, especially the western end of the
Grand Avenue corridor to be redeveloped. Our role as your Planning and Zoning Department is
basically to review the proposal set forth by the property owners, so in that regard, we are -- we
have established a very good working relationship with them and we have also reached out to the
community and sought their input. That process, by the way, continues as this is only the first
reading. And our commitment to the community has been that we will continue to work with
them to try to refine whatever aspects of it are required until the second reading and final
decision by this body is made. The last and perhaps more significant of the changes that has
been made -- and this is probably exemplary of the degree of care that has been put into this
project -- is that one of the blocks has been modified to shift what was commercial development
crossing the Thomas Avenue boundary and so basically encroaching into what was a
well -established single-family residential area, that has been now been shifted northward so that
the commercial development only fronts on Grand Avenue, and the two parallel residential
streets, Florida Avenue and Thomas Avenue, now remain exclusively residential. That has
required quite a bit of manipulation, but I think they've done it rather successfully. As a result,
however, one of the buildings that you will see today and will be pointed out to you is now going
to be eight stories. We think that is also worth considering and it has been designed very
elegantly. The last point will make is this, and I'll certainly answer any questions you have
afterwards, after the presentation is made. There are two items that are peculiar about this
application. One is the fact that the applicants could not propose the zoning in the form that
they did because by code they are required to have the zoning designation encompass the entire
parcel of land. They cannot propose -- they would if they could, but they cannot propose any
layering as part of their zoning request. However, we, as your Planning and Zoning
Department, and you, as a Commission, ultimately can, in fact, approve the sort of layered
zoning scheme that you'll see in some of the backup material that you have and that we will go
over as part of the presentation. And our recommendation ultimately is that that layered
approach be taken. What ultimately will be accomplished is that those residential streets will
remain residential in character and in development, and commercial development will be
confined to the areas of those lots that -- or those blocks that front on Grand Avenue, which is
basically Coconut Grove's main streets. That's one point wanted to make. The other point
wanted to make and highlight is the fact that along with these zoning changes, you will be
considering a Major Use Special Permit. The reason why that is significant is ultimately,
although this is a zoning change, you will be in the end voting on a very specific development
proposal that will essentially bind the land to the entitlement that is approved, meaning that
notwithstanding the zoning designations, the more restrictive aspect of this application, which is
actually the Major Use Special Permit as designed and as presented to you, is in fact what will
have to be built. I repeat that. It is in fact -- what you see here designed, it is, in fact, what will
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have to be built. If that were not the case -- and I'm saying this preemptively because I know this
issue is likely to come up and we'll address it as it comes up as well. But if what is presented to
you is not built, then the zoning that will end up on this land will revert back to an even more
restrictive scenario. So we've done, again, in conjunction with the applicants and certainly with
their cooperation, we have devised a scheme whereby the project that is presented to you is what
would be approved if you should approve both the zoning changes and the Major Use Special
Permit. And any subsequent property owner that chose not to build this would basically face a
much more restrictive zoning scheme that would revert back to the zoning that existed under the
prior zoning ordinance. I know that's a fairly complex point to make and we'll certainly clarify it
further as we need to. And I'll close by saying that we recommend approval of the proposal as
presented to you with certain conditions that are contained in your backup material. And with
that, I'll yield to the applicants and certainly stand by to answer any questions.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair --
Chair Gort: Okay, my --
Ms. Chiaro: -- before you proceed, just for purposes of the record, items 5 through 10 on this
agenda are presented as one project. The record will reflect on each of those individual items
this entire presentation as made by the Planning director and by the applicant. The MUSP
(Major Use Special Permit) that the Planning director referred to will not be considered today.
It will be considered when these ordinances come back to you on second reading. So you'll look
at first reading for the underlying zoning for the project tonight. You'll discuss the project as one
project, but it will apply to each of the individual items first reading zonings that you'11 vote on
tonight, 5 through 10, and then when second reading comes back for that zoning, additionally,
the approval of the MUSP for the project will be presented to you.
Chair Gort: My question to you is since these are ordinance, we will have to vote on each one
individually, although it's being presented together. What my understanding you saying is make
all the presentation from 5 to 10 and then we'll start voting individually for each one?
Ms. Chiaro: That's correct.
Chair Gort: Okay. So we're going to hear -- what I would like to -- the people in the technicals,
if they can put the cameras into the -- what do you call the --?
Lucia Dougherty: Presentation board.
Commissioner Gort: -- the presentation, the boards, so the public can see it. We'll appreciate it.
Then we'll hear from the applicants and then we'll open up for the public hearing. Thank you.
Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Dougherty: Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission. Lucia
Dougherty andlris Escarra, with offices at 333 Avenue of the Americas, in downtown Miami.
I'm here today on behalf of Pointe Group Developers. And we're very pleased that this is the end
of a long road starting in 2007 when we first presented this project to the City. And we are so
pleased to be here this evening to see a final resolution of this matter. Joining us this evening is
Peter Gardner, who is the principal of Pointe Group, and his colleague, Margaret Nee, Albert
Cordoves, with CorwilArchitect [sic] and his associate, AlbertAlvedo (phonetic), and John
McWilliams, who is our traffic engineer and our -- my cocounsel, Patrick Range and Tucker
Gibbs. Although this is a six -block Major Use Special Permit, the zoning that you're going to be
hearing today is only on four blocks, the four most eastern blocks. And the reason for that is is
because in 2008 you actually zoned the western two blocks, and at that time we had considered
having a grocery store -- andlris -- and you may want to show them where it is on the block. At
that time, we considered having a grocery store on the south side and an office building on the
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north side. And at that time, you also were very concerned, well, you're going to get this
rezoning, and you -- you know, and you're going to do whatever you want to and you're not
going to do what you say you're going to do. And at -- and that's not come to bear. In fact, we
haven't done anything until we bring the Major Use Special Permit. But back in 2008, which --
when you rezoned this in April of 2008, what happened is that our lender was Lehman Brothers.
And in Lehman Brothers at that time was going to, you know, fund this project. By October of
2008, we didn't have any funding and there was no Lehman Brothers anymore. So we got caught
up in the same situation, the same market condition that a lot of people did. But to some extent,
that time, that lapse gave us an opportunity frankly to address some of the concerns and to get
better hearing from the neighborhood and address their issues. And so we're here today -- how
many years later? -- three, four years later having digested many of the community concerns
that we had back in 2008. Our presentation is going to be -- frankly, Mr. Gardner, he doesn't
want to speak to you because he doesn't like to toot his own horn, but we've convinced him that
he needs to talk to you and tell you and show you his passion and his commitment to this
community. Patrick Range will then detail the public benefits program for the project. Margaret
Nee will talk about the tenant relocation in the project. Albert Cordoves will then talk about the
master plan and the project architecture. I will talk about the rezoning and the project. We will
have our traffic consultant available if you want to talk to him. And then after the public
presentation, Tucker will do rebuttal. So with that, I'd like Peter Gardner to come forward.
Peter Gardner: Good evening. For the record, Peter Gardner, 3599 North Moorings Way. As
Lucia mentioned, I'm not one for public speaking, but a couple people feel that I'm this person
that doesn't exist, soI was asked to come up here and I'm going tell a little bit about myself,
which is a little odd. I was born and raised in Coconut Grove. When I was brought home from
the hospital, I moved to the north Grove. Several years later in 1972, we moved to the South
Grove, and I'm one of those unique people that actually live on the same street that grew up on.
Andl don't think we find many people like that today. Nineteen ninety-eight, I married a lovely
girl who is born and raised in Miami as well, so obviously our roots are very tied to Miami and
hopefully our children will grow up here and remain here, have children and they will stay here
as well. My older brother, younger sister, who's here tonight, andl attended the same
elementary school that currently my three sons and my sister's son now attend, and believe it or
not, I was a classmate of Lucia's stepdaughter. It's a very small world. For the last 20 years,
I've been very involved at the Kampong in the Grove, and for the last 11 years, have been the
chairman of the board of governors and also on the board of the National Tropical Botanical
Garden, which is the parent operation of the Kampong. I was the president of the board of
trustees at Plymouth Congregational Church, where over the years we have been actively
participating in outreaching and programs in the West Grove. Currently, I'm on the board at St.
Stephen's Episcopal Day School, which also supports programs in the West Grove. Now's when
it gets a little unique. A long time ago my father told me that it was very important to help those
if you could quietly within a mile of your own church. Well, as Lucia said, I'm not a big fan of
talking about things that we do, but -- and tonight I think it's important for what we're trying to
bring forth to you that you understand how involved we are and have been in the community and
will be going forward. With that, I'm going to read a short list of all the different things we 've
participated in since 2007, and in some cases, a long time before that. We've done
back -to -school drives for the City (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F). We've been involved with the Barnyard.
We've been involved at Christ Episcopal Church. We've been involved in the Coconut Grove
community garden, the Coconut Grove Rotary Club, the Coconut Grove Sailing Club and Rotary
Club Youth Regatta, the Coconut Grove senior center, the Coconut Grove Women's Club, Fathers
to the Rescue, GW (George Washington) Carver Elementary School, GW Carver Middle School,
the Goombay Festival, the Grove community garden on Day Avenue, the Helen B. Bentley
Medical Center, the Hope Outreach Center, the Kampong, which I mentioned before, Macedonia
Church, the Mariah Brown house, the Ministerial Alliance, Thanksgiving Day feedings,
Plymouth Congregational Church, St. Stephen's Day School, St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, the
Switchboard ofMiami, the Thelma Gibson Health Initiative, the Theodore Gibson Memorial
Foundation, Tucker Elementary School, the Will Johnson Memorial Fund, St. Alban's, and
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something that was near and dear to my heart and will continue to be, which is Rebuilding
Together, which our personal team has been out and redone 23 homes, but we've been involved
in almost a hundred, and my coworker, who you're going to hear here in a minute, spent a whole
year chairing that. So it is very near and dear to our heart. On top of that, I'm also a big
believer in employing those who live or work in 33133. If you look at our professional team,
those of you that know them, Lucia, Tucker and Patrick are all Grove residents or have Grove
ties. Our design architect, Max Strange, was a Grove resident. Margaret, who is going to talk in
a minute, is a Grove resident. George, Franchel and Orondae, who work for Pointe Group, all
are involved in the Grove and have been for most of their lives, and they manage currently our
properties in the Grove. Obviously, if we're fortunate enough to move forward and build this
project, we will continue to keep hiring those that live within the 33133 and continue to build our
Pointe Group team from within here. Currently, we own and manage 19 affordable properties in
the West Grove that are outside the boundaries of this project. We participate in the Miami -Dade
Section 8 Housing Choice Voucher program. And the last thingl want to end with is the fact that
throughout the years that we've been working on this project, I've been very fortunate. We've had
numerous, countless meetings with the pioneer families that have been in Grove -- the Grove,
and many of them have become my friends over this time and I'm deeply honored that one of the
families is actually one of our partners, and that's the Simpson -Stirrup family, and they started
purchasing land in 1893 in the Grove. So historically, this is a very, very important thing for not
only me, everybody working on it, the residents, but Coconut Grove and the City ofMiami. So I
thank you for your ears in listening tonight. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Patrick Range: Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the Commission. For the record, my
name is Patrick Range, with offices at 5727 Northwest 17th Avenue, here in the City ofMiami.
And I'm going to talk with you a bit just about our efforts in terms of outreach. And just before I
get into that, I'd like to say a bit about my personal story, which I think is a bit unique in this
circumstance. I first had the opportunity to meet Peter Gardner at the outset of this project, and
I had a chance to converse with him about his vision for the Grove, particularly as it related to
this Grove Village project. And again, my perspective was a bit different I think in this case than
perhaps in other cases, in other developers that I've represented in that my family owns a
business and has owned a business here in Coconut Grove, actually right on Grand Avenue at
3384 Grand Avenue for over 20 years. I'd like to think of it as an institution here in the
community. Certainly, we have -- my family has strove to serve very professionally and in the
best way we know how, the members of this community, and we hope to continue to do so. But
the fact is is that this project directly will impact my family's business. In fact, you know, we will
be relocating as a result of this project. So you might think that would not be in favor of this.
But again, in having the opportunity to meet Peter and to talk with him about his vision, first of
all, that was a marked change from anything that I had seen. Other developers have come in
and proposed developments that would take over where my funeral home -- my family's business
is, but they have not come and explained what their thoughts were, asked for input. They simply
-- we would simply hear rumors about what was coming and that, of course, is very disturbing to
us. But having had the opportunity to talk with Peter, to hear his vision, to provide input, I was
very impressed and certainly was happy to be a part of this effort and that continues today. And
I certainly hope that -- or certainly, it has been our -- or my goal to continue that outreach that
Peter started with me. Andl think that Pointe Group has done that throughout the course of
these four years that we've been working. And so I would like to point out some of our efforts.
You certainly heard from Peter, all of the groups and agencies in the Grove that have been
supported both financially and through volunteer work. We'd like to also point out some of the
groups that we have met with. We, over the course of this four years, have met with all of the
stakeholders in the Coconut Grove area. We've had over -- easily, over 50 meetings to hear
input, to hear feedback, to incorporate that into our project, andl think that we have done that.
Some of the groups that we have worked with over this period of time include but certainly not
limited to, the Coconut Grove Village West Homeowners and Tenants Association, the Coconut
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Grove Collaborative, the Cocoanut Grove Village Council, the Coconut Grove Ministerial
Alliance, the Coconut Grove Chamber, the Coconut Grove Business Improvement District, just to
name a few again. And we've continued to meet and we'll continue to meet with these groups as
we move forward. And certainly, out of the discussions that we've had, there have been several
points that have been brought to us that were of major concern to the community. And those
things include jobs and jobs programs, business outreach, and housing. Andl think that we have
striven aside from the changes that we've made design wise, which you will hear about because
there have been many of those, we certainly have sought to seek that social input and make those
changes to our social program that would benefit community the most in terms of what we've
been hearing from all of the residents and other stakeholders. And so, as a part of that, just to
speak to our jobs and our jobs commitment, obviously this project will generate significant jobs
if all phases are able to be done, and that's certainly what we anticipate. We anticipate having
the opportunity to employ local residents. We have already contacted and been in contact and
set up opportunities for job training through the youth co-op program operated by Ms. Sylvia
Daughtry (phonetic). She actually has come -- we actually have a center that's set up in the
Shady Grove Church now. We have committed -- Pointe Group has committed going forward to
provide space within the project to house the youth co-op program, the job training program.
We're also working in conjunction, as youth co-op does, with South Florida Workforce, and they
will be a part. And again, we have committed to have space. There is space now that's being
used here in the Grove for job training. We have encouraged each of the groups that we have
spoke with. And I'd like to again encourage tonight those residents and the stakeholders that are
here, if you know of persons that are here in the Grove that are in need of work, that want to
work, we want to hear those names. We want to hear -- get their information and continue to try
to do our part to see to it that those folks that are here in this community that need jobs have the
opportunity to have them. Again, aside from working with the youth co-op program, the South
Florida Workforce, we are also going to be requiring all of our retail tenants to participate in
this program, so not just Pointe, but all of the tenants that will be coming will be required to
participate in the youth co-op job training program, so they will have to submit and become a
part of the database so that those residents who do apply, those persons who do apply for jobs
will have the opportunity to work directly with any of our tenants that are, you know, going to be
housed within this project. We have also, of course, as a part of our MUSP, submitted a minority
construction employment plan, and we also particularly have done some very specific things.
Since 2007, as Peter had begun to mention, we've employed nine West Grove residents at Pointe
Group Advisors. Since 2007, we have used several West Grove companies in our project,
including Safe and Sound Security, Lil D Landscaping, and Go Green Document Solutions.
Again, these are businesses that are housed right in the West Grove. We continue to work with
two of these businesses today. In 2008 and 2009, we employed and provided internship positions
to two youths from the West Grove who've since gone on to college and the armed services.
Currently, one of our employees is attendingATl Career Training Center to enhance his skills
and be eligible for a trade or licensed position in the future. This young man, with Pointe
Group's support and encouragement, has turned his life around. As a result of his sponsor,
Margaret Nee, he was released to a strict work release program. And as an aside, the judge who
Ms. Nee appeared in front of released him because he had never previously had a white female
employer come out to speak on behalf of a young African American male with a criminal history.
This young man is now averaging a 3.91 in his studies and will be graduating in December of
this year. I'd like to also highlight a bit of our efforts in terms of the business outreach that we
have done. We have contacted and committed to work with Mr. Bill Diggs, who is the president
of the Miami -Dade Chamber of Commerce. This is the African -American chamber of commerce.
He's agreed to provide not only resources for the -- for minority subcontractors who would work
in terms of the construction of this project, but also they are obviously the database for black
business here in the County, and we'll be working with them, using their resources to recruit
minority businesses into our operation. We're also -- have been in contact with Mr. Leroy Jones
of Neighbors and Neighbors. He operates primarily in Liberty City, but we have contacted him
about using his program and using his resources to assist us again in recruiting not only for jobs
but also for our businesses to have the opportunity to come here and to be a part of this project.
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And as a goal, Pointe Group has set a 10 percent -- at least a 10 percent minimum goal for
minority ownership in this project in the retail on commercial components. I'd also like to speak
a bit about housing and our efforts in terms of ensuring that this project will be inclusive and not
exclusive of Grove residents. As Peter had mentioned, in fact, Pointe Group currently operates
19 affordably priced units in the West Grove. This is without the boundaries -- meaning outside
the boundaries of the current project that's before you tonight. Our intention is to provide a total
of 53 affordable housing units, which would be over 20 percent of the units that are being
provided in this project. However, we will need subsidy as most affordable -- as all affordable
housing projects would. We will need subsidy to provide these additional units. We've applied
for that subsidy. We are seeking that subsidy and we will continue to do so in that effort. Again,
the 19 units that are currently existing, we hope will continue to exist. Those rents start as low as
$600 per month, and there's actually 14 of those units that are at that level, between 600 and
$650 per month. Again, we also have taken efforts to speak specifically with -- or deal with the
relocation for units that we had taken down. We've taken down 32 units, you know, since this
project began. And of those 32 units that have been taken down, 11 of those units have -- 11
persons within those units have actually been relocated within the Grove, and there have been --
four families have been relocated actually outside the Grove and that was per their request.
Again, I'm going to ask Margaret Nee to come up in a few moments and to give you some specific
examples of cases and folks that we have worked with to help them in that effort. And just before
I leave, I'd like to read a letter into the record, which comes from one of the gentlemen that we've
actually helped. He wasn't able to be here tonight. He's actually handicapped, wasn't able to be
with us this evening. But we actually participated, as we began this project, in a -- I don't know
if you would term it -- I believe you'd term it a -- we like to say a housing fair, a relocation
assistance fair, if you will. That was back in 2008. And during this assessment -- actually, this
was done in conjunction with the City ofMiami in the summer of 2008, and we had done it --
Pointe Group agreed to participate in order that those units that were taken down, those 32 units
that were taken down that we would be able to assist those folks in any number of ways,
including relocation. And so, again, there were a variety of services provided at this fair,
including relocation assistance, medical services, utility and phone service reviews, and a
benefits review for food stamps and other benefits. Again, we had done this to benefit those who
were directly affected by our project. As it turned out, there were 112 local residents that
actually came out and got assessed as part of this fair, which we were a part of in conjunction
with the City ofMiami. And again, during this assessment, the gentleman whose letter I'd like to
read, Mr. Jerome Harris, was a highly impacted person. He now has an improved living
condition, medical care and benefits. He was living in a wood frame house previously that was
not handicapped accessible, and again, he is wheelchair bound. And so, again, we think that his
life has been greatly improved, and I'd like to just briefly read the letter. It's not very long. And
it does read: To Whom This May Concern: I want to thank God for Ms. Margaret Nee and her
program because if it wasn't for her and her friend, I would not be where I am today. The place
where I lived before -- where I live now, I was -- I actually had to leave. Ms. Nee is my angel,
who helped me find a place downtown where I feel very blessed to be. I try to stay in contact
with her because I consider her my angel and love -- andl love everything that she has done for
me. God bless her. I'm in a power wheelchair andl cannot walk. She had been my legs when it
came time for me to move. I thank God every day for Ms. Nee and her friend's kindness. I pray
and wish that there were more people like them in the world. It certainly would be a more
beautiful place. I've been fortunate to have met someone like Ms. Nee. She is one of a kind.
Greatly appreciated, Jerome Harris. "As Peter had mentioned, in conjunction with the homes that
have been rehabbed, the 19 affordable housing units, again, there was a full rehab done to these
units, include painting and so forth. And lastly, I'd like to close -- before I ask Margaret to come
up, I would like to close with a letter which is submitted by another gentleman who wasn't able to
be here this evening, Dr. Rick Holton, who's been member of the West Grove here for some time.
Unfortunately, he was called out of town and couldn't be here. His letter reads -- again, very
briefly. To Whom It May Concern: I am a lifetime resident of Coconut Grove and have always
been proud of my community and its accomplishments. It is sad to say that I am also one of the
last in my high school class who have elected to stay in the Grove, hoping that one day we will
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return to being one of the most vibrant and thriving communities in this country. My family has
entertained the idea of moving on several occasions and used those that mentioned as an
example as to how and why we should leave. Based upon these factors, as well as my personal
belief that we can and will survive, I ask that you consider the preference for others who also
have a big stake in this community. As a homeowner, we're extremely concerned about looking
outside of our house and observing a depressed neighborhood with little commerce, other than
illegal drug sales and arguments which can be seen and heard from my window early morning,
noon, and night. This has not happened to many of my associates who have moved out of the --
out for this and other reasons. It's not fun anymore, andl believe that we deserve better. Again,
I am confident that Mr. Peter Gardner and the Pointe Group family will continue to employ
concepts into this project that are community friendly and will on a continuous basis include the
requests of others who may have a legitimate and reasonable concern as we move towards
change and improvements for our future. I support this project and look forward to an
outstanding neighborhood and future. If there are any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely, Dr. Rick Holton. "Andl'd like to submit both of these letters into the record. And just
as I close, we do have a plethora -- as a result of our continuous community outreach efforts, we
do have over 400 letters of support, which I'd also like to submit into the record. And with that,
I'd like to ask Margaret to come up and to provide some specific examples of what we have done
to folks who've been impacted in this community.
Ms. Dougherty: Before she does that, she is not a registered lobbyist because she hasn't had a
chance to take the ethics course. So we would ask that one of you ask her to tell you about her
specific relocation efforts.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I'll ask.
Ms. Dougherty: Would you like to have that answered for you?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Chair Gort: Commissioner Sarnoff has asked.
Margaret Nee: Good evening. Margaret Nee. I live at 2440 Inagua Avenue, lived on -- office at
Pointe Group at 3250 Mary Street. And Mr. Range and Mr. Gardner have told you about our
commitment to the project and the neighborhood in which we work and live. But I'd like to tell
you tonight about how since 2007 we've implemented a self-imposed sense of duty and
responsibility with regard to our tenants in the units that Pointe Group has purchased, and in
some cases, has taken down. While many here tonight will focus solely on numbers, I'm here to
tell you about a few of the people who were impacted that personally worked with. Since I
began working on this project in 2007, when we bought a building or a duplex, I would
personally meet with each tenant, and if they remained in good standing after they knew the
building was coming down and that they would have to leave at some point in the future,
together we would work on a relocation plan that suited them. This was done on an individual
basis. We didn't hire a professional relocation firm, although we could have done that. We
believed then and we believe now that team Pointe Group should, could and will assist the
tenants to ensure that it's the best possible outcome for them. In an effort to reach as many West
Grove residents as possible, beyond the units that Pointe Group was impacting directly, Pointe
Group partnered with the City ofMiami and provided a community outreach in the summer of
2008. We were overwhelmed. Over 112 residents were provided individual case assessments to
review a variety of services. Initially, we thought we were reaching out only to the 16 units that
we were directly impacting on Thomas Avenue. But 112 residents received a variety of service
assessments, including rent assistance, medical services, benefits review for food stamps and
other subsidies, including free cell phones. It was through this outreach that we were able to
work with Mr. Harris and improve the quality of his life. He was able to get a motorized
wheelchair, a hospital bed, and ultimately, into tremendous supportive Carrfour housing. Other
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Pointe Group tenants who chose to be relocated in the Grove were assisted with moving their
possessions, painting their apartments, and providing security deposits. One of the tenants who
opted to stay in the Grove that worked with had a requirement that she must be within walking
distance to her house of worship. She was born and raised in the Grove, spent over 70 years at
this church and the requirement was that she could walk there. It was a tough requirement, but
we found an apartment that was suitable. This lovely lady also had a request that we paint the
entire apartment pink. Pointe Group painted it pink, thanks to George and his team. And then
Franchel, Orondae and George moved her and her belongings and set everything up in her
apartment. Although we tried to encourage the tenants to stay in the Grove, some of the tenants
I worked with chose to relocate outside the Grove. One such tenant had lost her job that she had
moved to the Grove for and she was quite pleased when we decided to work with her to find an
affordable apartment that was within walking distance of her new job. However, the new place
had to accept pets. After considerable searching, Pointe Group found the appropriate
apartment, but it required that the pet have a license and tags. To make sure the relocation went
smoothly and that she could keep her beloved dog, we assisted with vouchers so that the dog
could be neutered and given its shots, and she moved north to her job with her dog. I could
continue, but for the sake of this evening's time, I won't. I'd like to thank you for taking the time
to hear about the people we've been working with in the West Grove. I'm proud of the work that
we've been doing and will continue to do at Pointe Group. For our credo is to do unto others as
you would have them do unto you, and we just don't say it. We live, breathe, and embrace this
credo at Pointe Group.
Mr. Range: Andl did omit -- if we could, just for a moment, just going back to the business
outreach. In addition to the Miami -Dade Chamber of Commerce, who we'll be partnering with,
as well as Mr. Leroy Jones, with Neighbors and Neighbors, we've also taken our own efforts to
reach out and to encourage businesses -- minority businesses to become a part of this project. In
fact, we've reached out to several businesses, including Bahamian businesses to come and to be
aware of what we're doing and to, you know, gauge their interest into moving into this project.
Also, we have committed to host a minority business reception at the next International Council
of Shopping Centers trade show in Florida. This is the premier conference for national, local,
and regional businesses, retailers and restaurants to scout new markets, locations and projects.
So we've committed to go in and to provide an opportunity to recruit through this national
convention organization. So with that, I'd like to ask Lucia to come back.
Ms. Dougherty: Mr. Sarnoff -- I mean, Commissioner Sarnoff, would you also ask our architect
to present to you the plans?
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Please present the plans.
Alberto Cordoves: Mr. Chair, Commissioners, Albert Cordoves, Corwil Architects, with
addresses at 4102 Laguna Street, Coral Gables, Florida. I'd like to say that, first and foremost, I
am really excited to be here today presenting this project before you. This is one that we've been
working extensively with the City staff with our client, with our consultants and with the entire
community to bring to you before a real winner, what we think is going to be a catalyst for this
community and a -- truly an urban design dream. With this, I'd like to briefly go through each
and every one of the six city blocks and give you a brief description of what we're intending and
we're proposing to do in each. What you see here is essentially two panoramic shots of the front
elevations north and south of Grand Avenue, and I'll start with our north view of Grand Avenue.
The first block, which we call Freeport, is essentially bounded by Hibiscus Street on the east and
Plaza Street on the west, and it's composed of a five -story retail office building. It ranges from
three levels to five levels, and it counts with approximately 33,000 square feet of retail at grade
level and 48,000 square feet of office use at levels three and four -- four and fifth, I'm sorry.
What you have is you have an integrated parking system within the level second and third. And
as you can see with this one and as well as other elevations throughout this project, that the
parking systems have been well articulated and harmonized with the rest of the project. As you
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can see, we're using essentially the same screening as we have used for the upper and lower
uses, again, creating a real active pedestrian activity at grade level. We also have an option for
this, which is a hotel option that houses 84 hotel rooms and it is essentially to be placed within
the same footprint as levels four and fifth of the office footprint as it states on the base option.
This one also counts with eight single-family homes that are fronting Florida Avenue in the rear.
Our next block is Nassau; a little more challenging of a block, a little bit bigger, but a little more
challenging. It had incredible specimen trees throughout. And one of the opportunities
architecturally that we had, as an example, is this beautiful specimen tree, which is
approximately 50 to 60 feet in diameter and we took advantage of that. Again, this particular
block is an office retail complex, which houses approximately 27,000 square feet of retail at
grade level, not only in the office building to the east -- to the west, but also underneath the
parking system on the east. It counts with approximately 797 parking spaces for the uses, and
again, we've integrated pretty much the same vocabulary as you see in the office building
throughout the parking system integration of shutters, trellises, green screens throughout the
entire facade. Our last block to the north of Grand is our Grand Bahamas block. On this
particular one, this is a retail office complex with 20,000 square feet of retail at grade level and
approximately 50,000 square feet of office use at levels four and five. Again, the parking system
well integrated and in harmony with the uses below and above; sgain, extremely retail -oriented
on the ground floor. Active space is creating a beautiful pedestrian realm that connects the first
block to the third block. I'd like to continue now with the blocks on the south of Grand. Our first
block is our Bimini block. And our Bimini block here is one of the -- in my -- what I feel is one of
the nicest ones of all because we were able to completely integrate parking systems, 80 percent
of them, within the uses themselves. We were able to have the office and retail uses essentially
encapsulate the parking systems. Not only that, but we were also able to reorganize the footprint
as we went up to -- from the ground level to the second level, to the -- all the way to the fifth
level. We also stepped back the building and reduced the footprint as we went up, so a lot of
articulation happens there. The center block on the south side of Grand is our residential
mixed -use component, and this is essentially 223 residential units, and it also counts with a -- an
extensive retail use at grade level, totaling approximately 20,000 square of retail and it has the
park in the corner, which is existing already. Again, very well articulated and in harmony with
the rest of the projects as far as the architectural treatment and vocabulary is concerned. And
last but not least is our Abaco block, which is bounded on the east by Elizabeth Street and on the
west by Margaret Street, and it's what we call our grocery store block. This one houses
approximately 52,000 square feet of retail and 22 residential units fronting Thomas Avenue.
With this, I'd like to answer any questions you might have.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Dougherty: This project has been carefully broken down into six blocks. They aren't the
exact same blocks -- same architecture on every block. We have worked very hard with
Francisco Garcia and his staff to make it the most interesting and still keep the vernacular of the
Bahamian architecture. A couple of things I want to point out from the design standpoint. In
none of the garages will you see the cars. They are all screened. There's no access from any
residential street into the commercial areas. There are residential liners on almost all of the
blocks, and if there's not a residential liner, then there is landscape buffering. And beyond that,
here's what we've done for the community. This is how we've modified the plans after we've
talked to the community. There's no longer any below -grade parking. You may recall that was a
controversial issue a long time ago. People were concerned about below -grade parking, so we
took that out. The grocery store is committed to be in phase one. That was the -- also our
commitment back then. We make the same commitment now. In our first phase will be the
grocery store; also, the residential block. Domino Park will not be moved. We initially had
thought we would move Domino Park. There will be affordable housing units, job outreach and
minority businesses -- minority business outreach, as Patrick Range described. We have either
residential units facing Florida and Thomas, which are on the back -- the streets on the back side
of Grand Avenue or landscape buffers. But most importantly, I want to describe to you what the
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biggest issue that the neighbors had. Initially, we had a 62-foot building for our residential
structure here. Now, you may say, well, why don't you keep it 62 feet, but just keep it off of
Thomas? Because that's what we -- that's what the zoning is allowing us to do. We're moving off
of Thomas, but moving this up to 82 feet -- 81 feet, excuse me. Now, under Miami 21, you can go
up 81 feet, but you can't have five stories. You can't go beyond five stories. So we have eight
stories in 81 feet on this one block. So this block is going to be C-1, but it immediately turns into
SD (Special District) -- I mean, excuse me, T6-8 after the rezoning takes place. This block is the
-- now the grocery store. Remember, we initially had the grocery store on the Bimini block in
2008, and now the grocery store is in the Abaco block. So again, this has to be C-1 in order to
have a grocery store. So these are the two blocks. Other than that, it is consistently zoned for
the -- as the West Grove is, as well as Center Grove. These are the two anomalies. Now all of
the buildings have residential, andl don't think you showed the four houses. All of the blocks
have residential on the back side. In other words, there are four single-family houses here.
These are actually landscaped with residential -- against the residential. These -- this will be
zoned residential. These have townhouse units, and these have townhouse uses facing Thomas.
So there're townhouse uses on Thomas, townhouse units on Thomas, and of course, this is the
church property. So we have residential facing residential, residential -zoned property facing
residential -zoned property, and Albert, working with the Planning Department, has done a
fantastic job of designing the project as it faces both Thomas and Florida. So from a zoning
standpoint, this is consistent with what you have on West Grove -- I mean, on Center Grove and
in West Grove. The only anomalies is the Paradise block in order to have it go a little bit higher
to maintain the number of units that we need to support the commercial because we all know that
commercial's not going to come until you have the residential. In order to have the number of
units that we need to support the commercial, we can either do it in 62 feet spread over Thomas
or we can do it in 81 feet and keep it on Grand. And the consensus from the community was keep
it at 81 feet and keep it off of Thomas. So with that, I'd like --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Dougherty: -- to close -- Oh, I need to go over some of your zoning cat -- We've passed out
a chart for you -- and so this gives you the overall zoning for the property. In terms of density
for the total property, we are allowed to have 1,519 units. We're actually providing 257 units, 34
of which are going to be set aside for affordable housing. Now that's on the base program. We
also have a maximum scenario because this is a six -block area and we have some flexibility built
in. So depending on what we actually market, we may actually go up to 349 units. And in terms
of FAR (Floor Area Ratio), we're at -- 799 is possible. We're providing in our base program
706,000 square feet, but we might go up to 750, depending on what the uses are provided.
Again, the parking spaces, we're required to have 1,622 spaces; we're providing 1,820 under the
base program, which is the most likely scenario. And again, we're providing much more open
space than is required. What's required is 74,000 square foot of open space and we're providing
either 126,000 or 125, 000. So we've also provided in this backup a listing of all the options,
along with the zoning classification or the zoning ordinances that correspond to the various
options and the various boards with that. And after this zoning ordinance goes into effect, we'll
have a Major Use Special Permit that will tie us to these plans at your next meeting.
Immediately after that, all of this property is going to be zoned T5 0, meaning that if for some
reason we don't build this building, we don't build this project, anybody who buys it after us who
doesn't want to build this project immediately goes to T5 O. So you have many layers of
protection. You have the fact that we have a Major Use Special Permit, the fact that it's going to
be zoned T5 0 under Miami 21, and the fact that we've been at it this long and Mr. Gardner is a
man of his word and will be keeping his commitments to this community. So thank you very
much, and we'd like to reserve some time for rebuttal.
Chair Gort: Thank you. At this time, we're going to hear from all those -- it's a public hearing.
Anyone who like to testify on this or like to speak on this item?
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Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Excuse me, Chair.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: We had some people who came in late to sign up to speak, so I would need to
administer the oath to them.
Chair Gort: Go right ahead.
Ms. Thompson: Ladies and gentlemen, if you have not done so already and you plan on giving
testimony on these PZ (Planning & Zoning) items 5-10, I will need you to please stand and raise
your right hand so that can swear you in. Do I --? Is Pierre there? I'm sorry.
Unidentified Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Ms. Thompson: Anyone who's not been sworn in yet, okay, I need you to stand and raise your
right hand.
The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those persons giving
testimony on zoning issues.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. Thank you, Chair.
Franchel Gaitor: How you doing? I'm Franchel Gaitor, at 3600 Plaza Street. I've been
employed by Pointe Group for almost four years. Pointe Group picked me up as a convicted
felon. As we all know, it's very rare that convicted felons get jobs. Since I've been working for
Pointe Group, I have been enrolled in school, staying out of trouble, taking care of the
community. As most of the community is here, they will tell you thatl be out there every day
making sure all the land that Pointe Group own that take care of with the lawn service, taking
care of the buildings, and many more things, replacing -- well, removal of -- most of the tenants
that were moved off Thomas, I personally moved them myself me and two more of the people
that work with. I stand for Pointe Group because Mr. Peter -- Mr. Gardner didn't let me down
when I was on my dirt foot. So I stand for Pointe Group because I say that they are honest
people and they're for the community.
Chair Gort: You're in favor of it?
Mr. F. Gaitor: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: You're example that got a job working for them?
Mr. F. Gaitor: Yes, sir. And l feel that they are for the community.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. F. Gaitor: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next.
Glen Diston: Good evening. My name is Glen Diston. I operate a business by the name of Go
Green Document Solutions at 3715 Grand Avenue. And before I go on, I'd like to say
congratulations to Commissioner Gort and Commissioner Sarnoff for your reelection, and I'd
like to say welcome back to Commissioner Spence -Jones. I've been in the community for almost
15 years, and I've operated a business here in Coconut Grove for that time. And I'd like to say
that I'm in support for this particular project. I've seen several developers come and go within
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my time frame working in this community, and as Patrick said, they just came and nothing
happened. And I'd like to say a big thank you to Peter and the Pointe Group for bringing this
vision to the Coconut Grove area, that even in these economic times, he stuck with it. Many
people would have probably just thrown up their hands and left us here, but he's sticking with it
andl think this project is a real good project. I'd also like to say that I'm going to leave three
words with you before I go. One, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Next.
Stafford Cummings: Good evening, Chair. My name is Stafford Cummings. They call me
George. I am a Jamaican. I'm 59 years of age. I was retiring and going back home 'cause I
own some property, and I can live without doing anything for a while, I think, for the rest of my
life. But Mr. Gardner called me into his office one day and said to me he needs a gentleman who
knows everything construction to train some people, some young men in the Grove to work in
some project that he's about to start. I told him I would give him a year. He said, no, I'm sorry.
I can't do it. I said how long. He said he want at least three years from me. So I saidl don't
know about three years because I'm actually retiring. He convinced me then to give him five
years, and so I signed on for five years. I came here in 1990, andl was told by a friend of mine
to go to a building on Grand Avenue to get some instruments to ship back to Jamaica for -- I
always ship stuff to Jamaica for the underprivileged kids to play music (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
musician. The guy took me around off Douglas, onto Grand Avenue and we were going up
Grand Avenue. So I said to him, how far is Grand Avenue? He said, this is Grand Avenue. I
said, what do you mean, Grand Avenue? This ain't no grand avenue. He said yeah, this is
Grand Avenue. I said, listen, a street is supposed to be indicative of its name. This is not Grand
Avenue. This is not -- What's wrong with you people? Why have you -- why has it gone down to
this state? All these buildings closed up and rotting to pieces. Anyway, to make a long story
short, Mr. Gardner showed me the plan that he had in the program for Grand Avenue. And ask
every one of you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that you have driven up and down Grand Avenue for the
past 20 years. I've lived there for ten years, lived on Grand Avenue for ten years, andl
challenge any one of you in here to tell me that what you have seen for the past 20 years driving
up and down Grand Avenue each day, each morning, each evening, is that what you want to
leave for your children and for your children's children for the next 20 years? I think not. I
implore you, please, pass this program. It is for the betterment of this community. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next.
Anthony Parrish: Andy Parrish, with offices at 103 Grand Avenue. I'm president of Wind and
Rain, Inc., which built 15 houses in the West Grove, starting in 1994. And I'm proud to say that
all of my homeowners are still in those houses because we set them up right. We also own the
Grand Island building on the corner, which is -- used to be known as Gil's Spot, some of you may
recall, if you've been here long enough. And because I see this as a very positive development,
we're -- my partners andl are finally fixing the old liquor store that's right there on the corner of
Grand and Douglas. So we're very hopeful that this project is going to be approved tonight.
We've waited a long time. Nineteen ninety-four, I think the street looked even better than it does
-- I mean, going on 17 years later. It's long overdue that we have a developer that comes in,
does low-rise building, which these basically are. The previous developer was going to do ten
stories and up, cheapest bay views in all of Dade County, but this one's come in and actually
come up with a plan that incorporates a lot of the streetscapes that the Center for Urban and
Community Design that University ofMiami came up with. It helped start the revitalization
process that then got short-circuited by the recent economic disaster, and the fact that this
developer is willing to go forward in these uncertain times I think is to his credit and to
everybody on his team's credit. I wouldn't have the guts to do it. So I really hope we'll get
behind him and support it. It's a good project with a good developer and it's long, long overdue.
Thank you very much, Commissioners.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am.
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Bonna Cooper: Yes. My name is Bonna Cooper. I reside at 3476 Hibiscus Street, a rental
property owned by Greater St. Paul AME (African Methodist Episcopal) Church. I've met Mr.
Gardner. I like Mr. Gardner, but I just want to give my thoughts. My concerns is that the
blatant disrespect to the historical Village West Island District. Historical, preserving history.
It's a hidden treasure that every developer wants and have embarked upon. Urban revitalization.
Other cities across the United States have embraced their diamonds in the rough. We're such a
small area that can be uniquely our own. I always said at different meetings that the east side is
warm and inviting, but when you get to the west side, it's of despair, but that despair is of design.
It's orchestrated. Developers want to personally change their -- they want to personally change
to their liking, but the character of being the historical Village West, they want to change. Not
only does the developers change the footprints of residential dwellings, but they're totally
demolishing. In closing, you wouldn't dare go into other areas of the City and make such a
drastic overall change as this. For those who have conscience, please think about it. That's my
thoughts.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Allen Lester: Allen Lester, with offices at 6858 Southwest 89th Terrace, Pinecrest. I own
properties on William Avenue, which I do plan to develop into what I call obtainable housing.
I've looked at the project. I've developed other projects in Coconut Grove. Though I can't say
I'm 100 percent in concept -- agreement, they've done a great job in working with the community.
The only thing I'd ask of this Commission is to do what they did for me on Terrazas, which is to
get CIP (Capital Improvements Program) and City Manager to make sure the impact fees from
both the City and Dade County are used into this area, okay, in order to create a stronger
residential and commercial corridor. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Monty Trainer: Good evening, gentlemen. How are you?
Chair Gort: Good evening.
Mr. Trainer: My name is Monty Trainer. I reside at 2649 South Bayshore Drive, and I've been
in Coconut Grove since 1968, opened my first restaurant in 1969, so I've been around the block a
couple of times in the Grove. And as some of them referred, they've seen developers come and go
and make all kinds of promises. But I have to remind you gentlemen of what we've been through
in the Grove and what the West Grove has meant to us as we grew up. And with this -- this is the
main corridor that'll come into Coconut Grove. And as Marc always likes to refer to his
three-legged stool, this is the third leg. You know, you got Main Highway, you got Commodore
Plaza, and now you'll have Grand Avenue. And this is what's been lacking. And was talking to
Peter earlier about the ingress and egress. And hopefully down the road, the Playhouse will
become involved in this whole equation. I think that's what you've been really missing in the
Grove, as we've been -- I don't know whether we isolated the West Grove or they isolated us; one
of the two, but now this will open it up and bring the commerce. Everybody said, well, the Grove
is -- this is what will make the Grove happen is to make this the unification of the Grove. So I
really applaud what Peter and Margaret have been able to accomplish on keeping this thing
alive. And when I first heard about the project, andl reached out andl said gee whiz, can you
tell me a little bit about your project, and this was about three or four years ago. So they
immediately took the time to tell me about the project, andl invited them to the Grove to speak at
a chamber luncheon. And at the luncheon, everybody overwhelmingly approved what they were
hoping to do. And of course, as you heard, that Lehman Brothers -- Lucia told you about
Lehman Brothers going south, so the project went south. So I was very disappointed. So this
guy should get a medal for being so tenacious and weathering the storm of our economic times
and still having the ability to keep the vision for the West Grove. So I hope everybody gets
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behind this. Thank you for your time.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
Brad Houser: Good evening. My name is Brad Houser. I live at 3630 Plaza Street, kind of
uniquely situated. I live literally steps from the Marler (phonetic) Street pathway that goes from
the West Grove to the South Grove. And until a few years ago, it was literally paddle [sic]
locked up, a chain -link fence with a paddle [sic] lock, literally segregating the West Grove from
the South Grove. Over the past few years since they opened that gate up, I've seen a nice healthy
flow of traffic, foot traffic and bicycle traffic from the West Grove into the South Grove, but not
much traffic from the South Grove into the West Grove. Andl look forward to this project and
the day when we see a healthy foot traffic and bicycle traffic from the South Grove into the West
Grove. I've known Peter for a number of years. I've had the pleasure of working with him very
closely at St. Stephen's Episcopal Day School, and there's not a better person to carry this
project off. I'd also like to speak on behalf of Sylvia Larrauri, who is the head of school at St.
Stephen's Episcopal Day School, where Peter serves on the board. She unfortunately cannot be
here tonight, but she wanted me to offer her full support for the project. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Henry Givens: Good afternoon. Good evening. Henry Givens, 10500 Southwest 149th Street,
Miami 33176. I'm president of Grovites United to Survive. Before I get started, Commissioner
Suarez, I would like to remind you that when you were about 5, 6 years old, your dad was
bringing you to meetings of this nature in Overtown, and I'm so happy to see you in a position
that you can help make some of the things happen that your father was teaching you way back
then. A few years ago, I became president of the Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce, the first
African American to serve in that position. The reason I wanted that position was to try and
bridge the divide between the west part of Coconut Grove and the eastern part of Coconut
Grove. But something started to happen and maybe I started recognizing things, that everybody
who came to the table to talk had a good game. Nobody was willing to put their money where
their mouth was. Ain't much changed, but one of the things that did change was that a young
man came and saw the opportunity to help revitalize the western part of Coconut Grove. He put
his money where his mouth is. If you would just take the time to think of the thousands of dollars
that have just been spent in just making these kind of presentations that have been made over
and over and over again, this is what this company has done. I really like Peter. I like to be
involved with him. And the thingl like most of all about him, he is one of the most pleasant
people to disagree with. And knowing me, I love that, 'cause I -- but he's very pleasant to
disagree with. He tells it exactly the way it is, andl certainly would like to encourage you to
certainly pass on this project because this opportunity is not going to knock again. Trust me.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Givens: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
Laurie Cook: My name is Laurie Cook, 3840 Charles Terrace, in the Grove. And Mother Teresa
said, in these times of development, everybody is in a rush and on the way, there are people
falling down who are not able to compete. These are the ones we want to love and serve and
take care of. Those are also the ones that I'm here to represent as my neighbors and my friends.
Nobody -- I don't think anybody would say that we don't need revitalization in the Grove. I think
every resident in the Grove and beyond would say that that's needed. But to me, development
that's going to be displacing hundreds of people is not acceptable. And so, I have some
particular concerns that I want to address in that regard. First, the Pointe Group has talked
about affording housing. I've been to the many -- many of the meetings they've talked about, I
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have attended. And there was one particular meeting where we were trying to get to the bottom
of what does this affordable housing thing mean? You're going to have some affordable units.
What does this mean? And the question was danced around for a while. And finally, I asked, the
people who live on Grand Avenue right now, would they be able to afford your affordable
housing? And they said no. Okay, that's all need to know on that. Secondly, in regards to their
stating that they are helping people to relocate, I don't know about those particular stories that
they have shared, but I know that I do have a friend who she was given -- she lived in one of the
houses on a property that they purchased. She was renting, had been renting there for the last
ten years and was given her 60-day notice, was -- nothing in the letter said anything about
helping her to relocate. I actually had to tell her, I've been at these meetings where they have
said they will help you relocate so you need to call them out on that. So she called them. And
she was told, yeah, there's housing for you in Liberty City or Overtown. And I just -- you know,
for each of us, how would you feel if you're being told, wherever you live, if it's in Coral Gables
or wherever, okay, all right, we have alternate housing for you in Overtown or Liberty City.
That's not acceptable. And so she decided just to find her own way to her own place because she
couldn't either afford anything else in the Grove currently. Another issue that I have is the
eight -story building. I think most of you are probably aware of several years ago, the previous
developer wanted to build higher. Granted, yes, eight stories is shorter than, you know, how
high the other developer wanted to go, but our community fought and fought and fought to keep
five stories. Andl think that's ridiculous that just in one instant we lose what has been fought for
previously. And part of that is really just because of the fact that part of the draw of the West
Grove has been that it's a quaint island village. Andl -- and that's not found anywhere else.
People can go to all different parts ofMiami for, you know, bigger and larger and greater, but
the draw of the West Grove is that it is that small island village. And so, again, I do say we --
yes, we do want revitalization; that's needed, but again, if that's going to displace hundreds of
people, to me, that's just not acceptable. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Anyone else?
Miles Jennings: Good evening, Chair, fellow Commissioners. My name is Miles Jennings. I
reside at 3471 Oak Avenue. I am a lifelong resident of Coconut Grove. I envy Mr. Gardner. He
said he still resides in his street that he grew up on. Well, I live two blocks away. I come from
one of the oldest pioneering families here in Coconut Grove. I wear numerous hats, and my view
of this development may be slightly different than most. I am a licensed general contractor.
Most of the construction that has been built in the last 30 to 35 years in the West Grove, I built.
So I've served on numerous boards. I'm attempting to make change in West Grove. Because of
strife, infighting, and other situations, our community is decaying right before our eyes. We have
a developer who has come in who has the wherewithal, the capability, and the sensibility to
actually develop a new concept for West Grove. Years ago, the gentleman said he thought Grand
Avenue was blighted. Grand Avenue was grand. The density on Douglas Road was much
higher. We had high-rises all along Douglas Road. Many, perhaps, have forgotten. We changed
the density to a lower level and, consequently, we thought that would solve some of the problems.
It has not. Many boards have come. Many developers have proposed concepts and ideas which
have not been -- have not come to fruition. I ask that you consider this current proposal before
you, andl am a proponent. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
Alice Eason: My name is Alice Eason. And I'm not living in the Grove right now, but I was
raised in Coconut Grove. I still have family here. And I'd just like to say thank you, Mr. Peter
and Margaret, for doing an outstanding job in trying to get the Grove back to where it used to be
a long time ago. We need the businesses, we need the stores, and we need the Grove to look like
the white Grove, so to speak. We need Grand Avenue to be beautiful. We want to be able to walk
and feel safe in our neighborhood. My sister, Yvonne McDonald -- may she rest in peace -- she
worked very hard for this community, and l just want to just say thank you. Just keep doing what
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you're doing. Appreciate it.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Edwine Gaitor: Good evening, Commissioners, Mr. Sternoff [sic], Michelle. I'd like to
congratulate you, Mr. Sternoff [sic] on reelection. Michelle, welcome to see you back, as well as
Commissioner Suarez. Good to see you all. My name is Mr. Gaitor. I was born and raised in
Coconut Grove. There's a labor of love in Coconut Grove that goes way back. There's a deep
history in Coconut Grove that existed for many years. I myself born and raised in this
community, can imagine that, you know what I'm saying, the things that we are seeing today and
the things that are happening today comes amongst change. Geographically speaking, we have
the West Grove as well as the South Grove. That's a little odd to me, but I'm learning to adjust to
that there because to me it's just one Grove. It's always been one Grove. Andl understand that,
you know what I'm saying, there's a lot of passion that comes out of Coconut Grove -- comes
from Coconut Grove. I myself have that deepest desire myself. Earlier you saw my son get up
and spoke. He was the young gentleman that was standing there telling you about the work that
Peter Gardner and Margaret Nee has done for him in regards to Pointe Group. Andl commend
him as a man, as a young man and as a father for where he at right now today. Andl appreciate
the work that Peter and Margaret have put into my son. We need this development in Coconut
Grove. There's no doubt about it. We need the jobs that do not exist, not only just in Coconut
Grove, but in America today. We have to come together on these grounds with whatever we need
to do to make this project move forward to expand and enhance this community that has been
suffering for so many years and will continue to suffer if we don't allow this thing to move
forward so we can see better things, better future for our kids and our grandkids. Andl am a
grandfather, so that's how serious I am about this project. I just want to thank you all for your
time and I'm going to say good night. You all enjoy.
Chair Gort: Thankyou. Anyone else? Anyone else?
Kathy Harris: Hi. I'm Kathy Harris. I've lived in the Grove since 1974. I am very much in
favor of the project. I agree with the gentleman that said Grand Avenue is not very grand, and
I'd like to see it brought up to what it should be in the area it deserves. I also want to shop. IfI
- - I don't want to have to feel have to go drive to South Miami or something else to shop. I
would like to spend my money in my community and help my fellow Coconut Grove residents.
Andl think an awful lot of people would prefer to shop, if they felt there was something on Grand
Avenue right now. Sometimes you just don't feel like it's the safest place to go to go shop. If this
- - I would like it to be something that we can be proud of we can spend our money in our own
community. My husband andl were also involved with the development in South Miami across
from the South Miami post office. It completely revitalized the area. It was an area no one
wanted to go and it's completely changed it. The community embraced it dramatically. They
were -- even those that were originally opposed loved how it changed -- it changed their --
improved the value of their own real estate. They loved it. So I have experience in this and l just
want to support this project. I know Peter Gardner. I trust Peter Gardner, and I just hope you'll
consider that. Thankyou.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Next.
Orondae Smart: My name is Orondae Smart. I worked for Pointe Group for about four years.
It's like too main words I keep hearing, change and jobs. You know, by me growing up and been
raised in the Grove, I've seen the good times of the Grove, I've seen the bad times of the Grove.
Peter Gardner came through, gave me an opportunity to have a job, so I'm one of the first to get
a job through his program out of the Grove. So therefore, the jobs come into play. I believe he
will bring jobs to the Grove. He's going to provide a lots of jobs 'cause I have cousins, I have
nephews, nieces, you know, family members that need jobs. And if he's going to bring the jobs to
the Grove, I'm willing to back him on what he's trying to propose. And then the change. You
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know, a lot of people from the Grove scared of change right now. They feel like by Peter coming
through the Grove and he's doing what he's doing, that they're going to be left out, you know
what I mean. So he's bringing good change to the Grove. All change is not bad, you know what
I mean. And it's time for the Grove to just step up and do what they need to do, you know what I
mean. Everybody keeps saying the history of the Grove is going -- dying out, but the Grove not
stepping up to preserve the history. I applaud these folks right here 'cause I do see them in the
community talking to people. You know, I'm from the community, so I see both sides. So I
applaud y'all for what y'all doing, but at the same time, the community not even where y'all at
right now. Y'all doing all the talking for them when they need to be here as well. Then you got
those that's talking about Peter Gardner -- or they say in the hood, the white man want to come
through and change everything. But he changing it for the good, like I said before. So whatever
he's -- whatever Peter Gardner is about, I'm backing him. He gave me an opportunity to get a
job when nobody else did, andl hope he bring a lot more to the Grove. That's all have to say.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Bennie Chapman: Hello, everybody. My name is Bennie Chapman, andl live at 3360 Florida
Avenue. I've heard everybody come up and talk about the Grove, they lived in the Grove, they
were born in the Grove. Let me tell you a little something about Bennie. I was born and raised
in the Grove as well. I was born in a part of the Grove that was the only black community of
Coral Gables, which is known as the Golden Gates. And a lot of you know that -- and that's over
by Carver school. And from there, I moved -- as my parents brought me away from over on that
end when I finished high school over to where I'm living now. I only lived two places in my
whole life and I'm almost 70 years ago. And yes, Peter, I love you. I don't hate you. You're
doing a good job, but you know what? I'm a little confused. I'm concerned, andl want you to
straighten me out. Help me because I'm confused about the drawing. I love the changes you're
doing, but I don't want to be put out on my street. So I want to ask you, on Florida Avenue, you
say you're going to keep that as it is? Tell me, somebody. Y'all speak to me now 'cause I'm
coming up here asking questions. I'm not here to down nobody.
Chair Gort: Ma'am, all your questions will be write [sic] and they'll be answered when they
rebuttal.
Ms. Chapman: Okay.
Chair Gort: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
Ms. Chapman: Because I'm a little confused, and that's why I come up here to ask. And to
rebuild Grand Avenue is beautiful, butt don't want you to go eight or ten stories high because
you'll be looking down in my bedroom. But I love the way you're doing it, and you're going to
make Coconut Grove look good, but just don't bother Florida Avenue. That's the only thing I'm
asking. Keep up the good work. Do what you doing. Make us look good, but leave Florida
Avenue alone. Here I am almost 70, done retired. I don't feel like going no place else. Just let
me live in peace, butl thank you just the same, you hear?
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. This is the right place to bring the questions and your
concerns. Anyone else?
George Simpson: My name is George A. Simpson, M.D. I'm a physician, a retired surgeon, and
I have lived in Coconut Grove since 1955, when I joined the Stirrup family. I think most of you
probably know me. I guess I could trade credentials of being interested in Coconut Grove with
anybody around here 'cause my family is, without doubt, one of the most interested groups of
people for Coconut Grove since this community began. And myself have -- had my office
Overtown and in Liberty City, but I had an office here in Coconut Grove too. Every night when
people come to my house, I had a third office right here. And our family has built affordable
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housing, at least 40 or 50 units, since I have been here, andl have managed and developed
many of these. As a surgeon, I have had the opportunity and sometimes the unfortunate
opportunity of treating people who were very ill, moribund, about to die. And my professor of
surgery used to say, if the person is that sick and there's a possible remedy for it, how do you
consider that remedy? Well, if it won't do harm and might do good, use it. If it might do harm
and won't possibly do good, don't use it. I look at Coconut Grove -- and, especially, I look at the
Grand Avenue corridor of Coconut Grove as a sick community, moribund, about to die, dying. It
needs therapy. Two therapies are proposed. One is if you delay this, you're doing nothing.
You're doing harm and that person's going to die. The other is, it can't do harm because this
community is not going to get worse -- I mean it's not going to get better doing nothing, so it
can't do harm, but it will and probably will do good. So are you going to leave this patient there
to die doing nothing or are you going to grasp at the possible therapy and do something to save
this community's health? I propose to you, andl think everybody would agree, you have to do
something. And the only thing we have right now is the Pointe Group plan, which I think is an
honorable one. The man, in my opinion, has kept every promise that I've known about and he's
shown his sincere concern for this community. This therapy for this community, which is
moribund, needs to be done now because to delay will just hasten the death. So let us get this
thing on, pass this thing and enable this group to do its work.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Thank you, doctor.
Williams Armbrister: My name is Williams Armbrister. I live at 3260 Thomas Avenue. I am the
third generation Armbrister in this community. And Commissioner Gort, I will ask you, as
chairperson, to permit me a bit more time than an individual, as I do represent a number of
individuals in this community and it is on record in our October meeting. I'm not going to bore
you.
Chair Gort: Sir, you have used already 30 seconds. And if you --
Mr. Armbrister: Okay.
Chair Gort: -- if you've been watching -- excuse me.
Mr. Armbrister: Okay.
Chair Gort: Excuse me. If you've been watching everyone, their two minutes have been up andl
allow them to continue to speak because I think it's very important. Go ahead, sir.
Mr. Armbrister: Yes, indeed, very important. What the developers and a few other people have
said that they've met with the different organizations in the community, but they have no approval
for their proposed project from the organizations in the community. The only approval that they
do have are those that will tend to profit from this, not those that are attempting to survive. You
know, what -- the only thing we're asking of Pointe Group and have always asked of Pointe
Group is that they keep their footprint off and out of the residential community. That's all. They
try to come in and make believe that, well, since we like you, we won't go on across -- we won't
cross Thomas Avenue. But let me tell you the truth what happened to that. I was in contact with
the Episcopal diocese and provided all the information whereas they had been misled by Pointe
Group thinking and saying that this is a project that the community want. The community
doesn't want greater than three stories on Grand Avenue. I noticed earlier, Commissioner
Carollo, when you talked about building better communities and somebody reminded you of one
you forgot. You also forgot Coconut Grove. And it's not only you; it's the entire Commission that
has forgotten Coconut Grove. And when you take into consideration we were not notified about
this meeting today, it almost de -legitimatizes this item on the agenda for today. There was zero
notification, as if we weren't desired to come and express our opinion in regards to this item.
And so I don't think that this should be even acknowledged as a first reading because I
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personally feel -- and correct me, if it's proper for you to have these items brought before the
Commission without noting the residents. Is it proper for you to do that? I don't know. I'm
asking.
Chair Gort: There'll be answered in your rebuttal and will ask --
Mr. Armbrister: Okay. I'm sure --
Chair Gort: -- the lawyer -- I'll ask later on, sir.
Mr. Armbrister: -- there's some slimy hole that the developers weaseled through in order to
justify that. They did what was politically correct. And for you to sign on and approve this
project that Commissioner Sarnoff came through the community and was lobbying for the
developers as he was lobbying for his Commissioner seat. And then when you look at about
$18, 000 or more that is easily traced -- I'm only speaking what is true and public --
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Mr. Armbrister: Yes, sir.
Chair Gort: We're addressing this issue. What's your opposition to the issue, okay?
Mr. Armbrister: Well, what I'm saying is the developer has contributed a great deal -- sum of
money to Mr. Sarnoff. And because they have done this, it gives this a bad smell.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Armbrister: And what I'm saying is documentation.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Armbrister: And everybody may not be aware of this, but I want to make certain that in your
decision you have taken into consideration that the developers may have smeared this entire
process --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Armbrister: -- from point one.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Armbrister: And you don't make it look good for yourself --
Chair Gort: That's your --
Mr. Armbrister: -- if you --
Chair Gort: -- personal opinion.
Mr. Armbrister: -- endorse that. No, that's not a --
Chair Gort: That's your personal opinion.
Mr. Armbrister: -- no, that's documentation.
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Chair Gort: Andl thank you. Okay.
Mr. Armbrister: It's documented.
Chair Gort: The elections are over.
Mr. Armbrister: Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Armbrister: Thank you very much.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Pierre Sands: My name is Pierre Sands. I am the president of the Homeowners and Tenants
Association in Village West. I would like to preface everything that I say tonight with a scripture.
It says do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Today's translation is if you make a
deal, two people on either side of a table, if it is truly a deal and it's truly beneficial, then the
dealmakers would not object to switching places. So I ask the people here tonight, pro and con,
would you like to switch places? Last hearing, before the PZAB (Planning, Zoning and Appeals
Board), I spoke of landmarks in Coconut Grove and I mentioned Barbara Rose Apartments,
which were on 37th Avenue, andl mentionedRoy's Georgia Barbeque at 32ndAvenue. Those
two points represented the very extreme points that black people could live in Coconut Grove.
Roy Asbury (phonetic) was on the virtual demarcation -- line of demarcation of Coconut Grove.
Tonight I want to dispel myths about Coconut Grove. And as I sat here tonight or stood here
tonight, I've got a list of them. One of the main ones that troubles me is that Village West is a
dangerous place to live. Everyone, if they're going to justify this development, do not use that as
an excuse for your project. This is a dangerous place to live. I want to recount just how
dangerous Coconut Grove is, Village West. Did you know we have 16 churches in Village West,
16, not counting the little storefronts and home worship and bible studies? Did you know that we
have three schools in Coconut Grove West Village? Francis S. Tucker, George Washington
Carver, and the St. Alban school. And if you count St. Hugh, many of us went there from the '50s
on to today. That's the dangerous Coconut Grove that has been depicted. It is an egregious
misrepresentation of this community. This is the oldest community in all ofMiami, and it's a slap
in the face when people stand up and say it is a dangerous place. Now, if that is so, then I must
be a dangerous man. And everybody that sits here representing their homestead, the tenants,
they are dangerous people. I want to go down the list andl want to talk about --
Chair Gort: Sir, in conclusion. I'd like for you to (UNINTELLIGIBLE) for that.
Mr. Sands: You know what? I appreciate that. You know, I'm at the bitter end. Everyone has
spoken. And the only person that you've interrupted is William [sic] Armbrister and now me.
And I'm going to ask for some leeway here because this is a very important issue.
Chair Gort: Let me repeat once again the same thing that repeat to Mr. Armbrister. I have
given plenty of time to everyone that's gone beyond the two minutes that they're supposed to be
speaking so I've been very lenient on that.
Mr. Sands: Yeah, I understand that. But when we're talking about the destiny of a community
and you limit us to two minutes and Pointe Group gets to have a time for a rebuttal.
Chair Gort: Sir, if you recall, I have given you all plenty of time. I have gone beyond the two
minutes. Will you try to conclude, please, sir?
Mr. Sands: I will.
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Chair Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Sands: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Mr. Chairman, can I just ask you a question?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: If there's anyone else from West Grove that would want to give him
their two minutes that may not be speaking?
Chair Gort: Okay, two, four, six.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so --
Chair Gort: Eight minutes.
Mr. Sands: Okay. Thank you.
Chair Gort: You got eight minutes, sir.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I just want to make sure you --
Chair Gort: Yes, yes. Go ahead.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- have an opportunity to say what's necessary --
Mr. Sands: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- out of respect for the neighborhood.
Mr. Sands: Well, in that am limited to eight minutes, I wanted to go down a pantheon of
famous Grovites, Village West, but I will use one. Andl will say that she is a pillar in this
community, and I'm glad l found this book two nights ago. And she writes, who would be
interested in the life of a colored child? Now a woman born in Coconut Grove, 1926. What
could say about my life as a colored nurse coming to work at Jackson Memorial Hospital in
1947 and not being able to work in the room because of my color? She says -- she goes on to
say that there were two operating rooms at Miami Jackson Memorial Hospital, and they shorten
it to OR (Operating Room). So tonight, OR will be the metaphor for Village West and the east of
37th or 32nd Avenue. The myth is that -- and forgive me, Peter -- that Peter keeps his promise. I
know Peter. He's an honorable man, but to date, we cannot base or make that statement because
nothing has been done since 2007. So we're waiting for the fulfillment of that promise. Someone
said that there has always been one Grove, andl categorically say that is wrong. I grew up in
Coconut Grove when it was white town and colored town. I grew up in Coconut Grove when that
line of demarcation was 32ndAvenue and McDonald Street. I grew up in a Coconut Grove
where there was a wall between Muller Street and the street that this gentleman spoke of. There
was no osmosis. There was no exchange of people and culture. That's the Coconut Grove we
grew up in. Someone says that this is a blighted community. It's not a blighted community.
Somehow you want to put the blame on the people that live in Village West that it is a blighted
community. We won't carry that onus, and the reason being; this corridor you speak of of
Grand Avenue, we never owned any of it. We were tenants. We lined the pockets of slumlords for
years and years and years, and those that own property that were from Village West couldn't get
a loan. Why is that? Lucia Dougherty says architecture with a Bahamian vernacular. What is
architecture with a Bahamian vernacular without the Bahamians? She says -- andl like Lucia.
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She's a wonderful person. She's a good lawyer. But she says the only concern that this
community has is eight stories. Yes, that is a huge concern, but we are concerned about the
commercial encroachment that has taken place in our community. I attended a meeting three
weeks ago where I was guaranteed by members of Pointe Group that there would be no further
encroaching into Village West. Now, Marc, being the astute lawyer, explained to me that it is
constitutionally not possible. You never say never. That's wised me up. I learned a lot that day.
Two hundred and fifty-seven units. These are going possibly to 394. We're just throwing
numbers at the wall, you know? There's nothing concrete there. Monty Trainer said he came
here in 1968. He says he doesn't know whether Village West isolated itself from Village -- or the
East Village or was it the other way around. The fact in American history is, as I've explained
earlier, segregation is what divided east from west. Andl say to myself, Mrs. Gibson could not
work at Miami Jackson hospital, two operating rooms. There are two operating rooms here in
Coconut Grove. It is only fitting for people to use the one Grove, but they do it disingenuously.
There still isn't a one Grove. One lady says that she wants to shop. We in Village West want to
exist in the place that we were born, a place that our ancestors built. This is the oldest black
historical community in Florida. Bud [sic] Houser says he lives on Plaza and Muller and he
envisions this project as this osmosis of culture. Not going to be that. Myth. A gentleman says --
that was Mr. Monty Trainer. He says Pointe Group's vision of West Grove. What's wrong with
that? People who live in West Grove ought to have their own vision. We don't need anyone
having visions for us; paternalistic, insulting. We're better than that. You believe in one Grove?
Let's prove it. Miles Jennings, my friend I grew up with Miles Jennings. Miles Jennings says
he's a contractor. The people of Village West, we don't work for Pointe Group, and we're not
looking to work for Pointe Group. Strife, he says. Name me anywhere on this planet that
involves the human being where there is no strife. We're just like you. We fuss, we fight, we make
up, we kill, we steal. Strife. It's not peculiar to the people of Village West. Now, Mr. Gainer,
you're a good man. And sure, Pointe Group has hired people. I commend them for that. There
are a lot of people living in Coconut Grove that won't have employment. Why? Because they
won't be here. Now, I want to just briefly cover --
Chair Gort: Sir --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: In conclusion.
Chair Gort: -- I need for you to conclude, sir.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: In conclu -- I'm sorry.
Mr. Sands: I'm going to conclude.
Chair Gort: We have given you plenty of time.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: In conclusion.
Mr. Sands: Okay. And I thank you for that.
Chair Gort: You have done a better rebuttal than their rebuttal's going to do. I mean, you
rebuttal every opinion everybody testified here, which you've done a great job on that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You've done an excellent --
Chair Gort: Please --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- job, actually.
Chair Gort: -- conclude.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Excellent.
Mr. Sands: Okay. I would like to close with --
Chair Gort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Sands: -- in Coconut Grove, I'm a certified arborist, andl know that since 2004, the
developers have savaged our urban canopy. The City ofMiami revamped its tree code. It makes
the offender mitigate the trees that they remove. But when we tear down apartment buildings
where people lived for pretty near 100 years, the City ofMiami is short armed and weak voiced,
no mitigation. Why is that? Are trees more important than the people who planted them? And
so I leave you tonight with that, you know. If you truly want to do the thing you say, then I want
to just finish with a credo of our Homeowners and Tenants Association, which was penned by
Will Johnson. It says I am Coconut Grove, Village West, South, Center and North. We are not
divided. We want what every community wants: Jobs, opportunity, good education for our
children, quality recreation, clean streets, no crime, elected leaders who truly know us, respect us
and represent our interests. And to date, that is still our dream. I thank you very much. God
bless --
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Sands: -- and keep you.
Chair Gort: You've done a tremendous job. Thank you.
Mr. Sands: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Okay. He's taken a time of other people here. Yes, sir.
Vernon Clark: Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Vernon Clark. I think I'm the senior
member of Coconut Grove. I was born in 1936, Grand Avenue. My parents are Bahamians. I
think have more days behind me than I have in front of me. I know Pierre mother. I know
Pierre grandparents. Andl know everybody in Coconut Grove because some way we're related.
The man -- what's his name? Peter. What's your name, sir, your last name? Peter Gardner. I
call him Peter Pan, because the Cubans had a Peter Pan that when they can, they waved the
wool because things happened. Barbecue can't work anymore. Arroz con pollo and rice can't
work anymore. There's nobody that know when I was coming up with the Jews in the
community that have always come in Coconut Grove. That's where Pierre was born. They were
there to work and they help us out. The good old boys -- I wear the cowboy hats. Some of them
know me, and Willie. I understand the emotion of Pierre. He is a distant relative of mine. But
Coconut Grove can't survive with a man who has money to come in there in a partnership. We're
going to die on the vine. Now there's no personality crisis. I go to Christ Episcopal Church.
I've been there all my life. I've done what I can andl -- I can't find the adjective really to
describe. And there are people know me very well. If this man project is not passed, we're going
back in the Dark Ages because nobody's going to come in Coconut Grove and invest one dime.
And believe me, may God be my secret judge, and believe me, I'll bet my money on this man.
He's not arrogant andl think he is fair.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Clark: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Okay.
Andrea Ellison Honore: Good evening. My name is Andrea Ellison Honore, and I live at 3249
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William Avenue, in Coconut Grove. I also have family -- my relatives have -- are some of the
first settlers in Coconut Grove. They are the (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I have lived in Coconut
Grove now for about -- maybe about 15 years. However, I grew up in the Grove. I attend Christ
church. I went to George Washington Carver Elementary, Carver Middle School until we
branched out into Palmetto down south. I have had the pleasure of working with Peter on a
contract, and l just wanted to say tonight that do believe him to be a very honorable man. He
has done so with us in our project. He has shared his vision as to Coconut Grove. A lot of it
makes sense. And based on the fact of since I was growing up in the Grove and what I've seen in
how the Grove is now, we need the help, we need an improvement. We need something to make
us strong again, how we used to be, as I've heard a lot of people say in the Grove. And we were
a strong community, a very vibrant community that was working. Andl think that with this
project, it's going to help to bring us back to that level. We just need to work out our differences
and try to understand what it will take, and sometimes it may not take exactly what everyone
would want. But if we come together and to help this project begin, I really believe that we can
see a very prosperous future for the whole Grove, not just West. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Okay, is anyone else? Anyone else?
Sue McConnell: Sue McConnell, 3090 Virginia Street, Coconut Grove. I've lived here over 25
years. I'm sorry to say, Pierre, but I don't feel safe driving down Grand Avenue. When I do,
people wave me on 'cause I think they want to sell me drugs. We're not going to get a lot of Peter
Gardners coming our way. Andl think if we miss this opportunity, it's going to be a long time
before we see any improvement in Grand Avenue. Thankyou.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Anyone else? Please, if you want to speak, come up. Go ahead.
Daniel Felger: I'm sorry. Dan Felger. I live Palmetto Avenue, Coconut Grove. I just really
want to quickly say that I've had the pleasure of knowing Peter for almost ten years. I know his
wife. I know his kids. I knew his father before he passed and his mother. Andl don't think
there's anyone I've ever met in my life that's more committed to his family and the community as
Peter, and he is absolutely the right person to steer this project forward. So that's all wanted to
say.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Felger: Thankyou.
Chair Gort: Anyone else? Anyone else?
Constantine Scurtis: How are you? My name's Constantine Scurtis. I'm a resident of Coconut
Grove since 1978 and currently live at 3639 Park Lane, and my parents still live on Battersea
Road where I grew up, and my sister also lives on Hardy on the Grove side. So we're a third
generation from Miami. I attended St. Stephen's as a child. And was born and raised in the
Grove. And I'll just tell you, it's really sad how all these other areas around Miami are thriving.
This new Mary Brickell Village area and Brickell that didn't even exist; South Miami's really got
their act together; Coral Gables on Miracle Mile, when I was growing up nobody even went over
there and -- the Grove's been left behind and it's sad. And I've gotten to know Peter personally
and become very good friends with him and his family and our kids are close. And I'll tell you,
he's personally committed to this project. It's not a developer coming in from out of town or
another area. He's very committed and couldn't imagine a better person to lead the Grove out
of the rut that it's been in a long time. It's sad when I go with my wife to go out to dinner. You
can only eat GreenStreet so many times. I mean, nothing's lasting in the Grove. We're going to
all these different areas and design districts and all over town, and none of our dollars are going
into the Grove except into the kids' school and there's just -- you know, that change is hard. I
know the West Grove has got a lot of history and -- but change is also necessary. And you know,
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I completely support the project and so does my whole family.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Next.
Ozie Williams: My name is Ozie Williams. I live at 3021 New York Street. I've been in Miami
since 1957 and I've lived in my home since 1965. But got a notice on a hearing. It says
Wednesday, November 16. Andl called some of the homeowners and they know nothing about it
andl didn't know until 1: 30 today.
Chair Gort: Yeah. My understanding, that's -- I think that's for the -- yesterday's meeting. Yeah,
that's for the Planning. That's Planning & Zoning meeting.
Mr. Garcia: Madam, Commissioner, I'm sorry. IfI can --
Ms. Williams: Well, I have talked to about ten peoples [sic] and they know nothing about the
meeting.
Chair Gort: The question is that notification of this hearing today went out to the residents of
the area.
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. The meeting --
Ms. Williams: I didn't --
Chair Gort: Excuse me.
Ms. Williams: Well --
Chair Gort: Excuse me. I asked staff the question. Yes, sir.
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. The -- to clam a couple of questions. The meeting has been noticed
properly. What may have created some confusion is the fact that this meeting, in particular, this
hearing, has been continued, and when that happens and it is done so on the public record for
everyone to witness, then there's no additional notification sent to the property owners and the
original notification stands. In addition to that, however, there are postings all along Grand
Avenue which indicate that the meeting is going to take place today.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So in other words, they just did not --? Right. So in other words,
what she -- she's just communicating her issue.
Mr. Garcia: Of course.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Her issue is she was confused or not con -- well, she's confused
about this notice because that was yesterday.
Ms. Williams: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But what she's saying is that because of I guess the process that
we have now in place, the homeowners didn't -- 'cause there was a comment that was made
earlier by somebody in the audience that if somebody really cared about their community, that
would -- they would be here and that -- part of the reason why they may not be here is because
that additional notice didn't go out --
Mr. Garcia: That's correct. I just want --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- because that's not the process.
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Chair Gort: That is correct. And l just wanted to -- exactly -- clam that in doing so, we'd
simply will be following the process that we have established. But we do understand how the
lack of additional notice may have created some confusion. I should also add just for the sake of
clarity that this is one of two hearings, and so in the month of December, in particular -- for
those of you who have been kind enough to attend today -- on December 15 there will be another
meeting exactly like this one, and whether today this passes or not, it is required that in the next
meeting it pass as well before this item goes forward. So you'd have the opportunity to speak
today and the opportunity to come back on December 15 after 2 p.m. and speak again on the
item and certainly advise everyone else to speak. One last thing, and it is that everyone who
lives within the radius, everyone who is a neighbor in the area, will be notified again for the
meeting in December.
Chair Gort: Now let me ask you a question and clarify it even more. Does this notice go to
property owner and rentees also?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, just property owners.
Mr. Garcia: It goes to the property owners, sir.
Chair Gort: It only goes to the property owners. In other words, residents of the apartment
buildings do not receive notice of this hearing? The property owner of the -- the owner of the
building is the one that receives the notice.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: But I think it's interesting --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. I think it's interesting so at least you know that and those
that did come out tonight will have the opportunity to come back. If it passes tonight, you'll have
the opportunity to let them know and to at least bring them back and at least, you know, voice
your opinion or your -- their opinions about how they feel about the project, which I think is
extremely important.
Mr. Garcia: Certainly the case. And in addition to that, the postings will be placed up again all
along Grand Avenue, so I think you will have every opportunity to be notified in exactly the same
fashion as you have been before.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Was that your only comment? Did you want to put something on
the record about how you feel about the project? You can.
Ms. Williams: Well, when they start developing, sometime they go -- like they start on Grand,
they go to Florida Avenue, Frow Avenue, and they just keep going. So it need to be something
on record where it have to be stopped for commercial.
Chair Gort: Thank you, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Next. Yes, sir.
Joel Denaro: My name is Joel Denaro. I've lived in Miami for my whole life. I've lived in
Coconut Grove since 2009. And I've listened tonight and there's a lot of emotion about all of
this. Andl know Peter andl know his family very well. And if the Gardners have made a
promise to the community, knowing Peter the way that I do, he's going to keep his promise. I'm
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here because I support what Peter and the Pointe Group are doing. I think that this is going to
benefit Coconut Grove. I think it's obviously going to bring jobs, number one. It's obviously
going to bring tax dollars to a community which we desperately need. I think it'll raise property
values in the West Grove, the South Grove, and the North Grove. And I've listened tonight to
people who oppose this. And before I lived in the Grove, me and my family -- I live in the Grove
with my wife and three kids who go to St. Stephen's. We lived in the Design District, your --
actually Buena Vista, and remember being at meetings where people were objecting to Midtown
Miami. And what we've seen with Midtown Miami is it brought in restaurants; it's brought in tax
dollars. There are now many jobs as a result of that. And this really is reminiscent of that and
it's really what the Grove needs right now. And so I encourage the Commission to vote yes for
this so that we can get this started, and it's what our community needs. And thank you for the
time.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Okay, you got two minutes for rebuttal. There's some
question what I'd like for you to -- couple of questions came up, most important Florida, about
the residential, how is it going to be affected.
Tucker Gibbs: Okay, I'm going to --
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair. I just --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: -- want to make sure. Have you closed the public hearing?
Chair Gort: No, I didn't. It's rebuttal.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. Just want to make sure.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And also Thomas 'cause that came up in it as well.
Mr. Gibbs: Yes. I'm going to ask -- and don't start my clock. Please don't start my clock yet. If
I have two minutes, I'm going to try to use them to the best.
Chair Gort: Go ahead.
Mr. Gibbs: Good evening. My name is Tucker Gibbs. My offices are at 3835 Utopia Court, in
Coconut Grove. And to start off I want -- I'd like you all to understand that this is about a set of
rezonings that will be in place through a Major Use Special Permit. And understand tonight,
we're not dealing with the Major Use Special Permit, but at least you all need to know that that
is coming at the next meeting on second reading, and that literally says that we can't do anything
other than what we're proposing tonight. We have residential on Thomas. We have residential
on Florida Avenue. And on Florida Avenue, residential or buffer, and that's very important to
understand because where you have residential on the north side of Florida Avenue, you have
residential and buffering on the south side of Florida Avenue. Nowhere does a building butt up
against somebody's house unless it does already. Ms. Chapman's house backs up on a property
that is zoned for five stories today and five stories is what's behind her in general. But oddly
enough, behindMs. Chapman's house is a breezeway. It's two -- there are two buildings, and
this is the space between two buildings is directly behindMs. Chapman's house and that's my
understanding, at least, from Ms. Nee -- Margaret. Hold on. I want to just verifi, that because I
verified -- I thought I verified it before.
Chair Gort: Come on, Tucker. You know better.
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Mr. Gibbs: Thank you.
Ms. Dougherty: Her house is this empty lot right here, which is going to be adjacent to zoning
for residential single family and zoning for T4, but in fact what -- this is not part of our property.
It got rezoned, but it's not part of our property. And so what she's going to be having on both
sides is -- and it's hard to tell 'cause this is an elevation. But on both sides of her property she's
going to have landscaped buffers all the way back to the -- oh, okay.
Mr. Cordoves: As you can see, there's landscape buffers extending throughout the entire
property and even surrounding it and encircling the other properties around the buildings.
Mr. Gibbs: The goal in creating this was to preserve and protect the residential neighborhood.
And that was to make sure that residential would always face residential and that is what's
happening here. Mr. Cummings talked about Grand Avenue, andl wanted to address Grand
Avenue. And he asked a very important question: Is the Grand Avenue that exists today what we
want? Andl don't think anybody in this room wants that. We're talking about the future and
we're also talking about the past. The past of Coconut Grove was a divided community. Pierre
Sands talked eloquently about the issues of what happened in Coconut Grove and what Coconut
Grove was about. But what we're talking about here is a project that is going tojumpstart,
revitalize this community. Nobody has ever come to this city about Coconut Grove and taken an
area of this size and said want to redevelop it. This is an important issue in the Grove. If this
issue is let go -- if this Commission says no to this project, what this Commission is saying no to
is the future of Coconut Grove. This is a central point of development. It's a place where -- it's a
revitalization focus for Coconut Grove.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We hear you. Go ahead.
Mr. Gibbs: Okay. I just -- I wasn't sure, andl want to -- People have asked why is one section
of Coconut Grove growing while the other section has stagnated. And it isn't just about property
ownership. It's about investment. And investors want to invest in an area that they can make
money in. That's the American way. What you have here is a critical mass. Six blocks in
Coconut Grove that can be developed, that can help other areas develop. If this area is
developed, it can jumpstart other development in other parts of Coconut Grove and that's
important in this community. Mr. Gardner could come in and he could do one block, he could
do one lot or he could do three lots or three blocks. He chose to do six blocks. Why? Because
this is about revitalizing an area. This is what's going to make it work. I wanted to talk to you
all about some of the comments that were made, so if you bear with me, I'd like to -- I need to
address at least some of the comments 'cause this is rebuttal.
Chair Gort: I think the comments and the questions that were asked by the public should be
answered.
Mr. Gibbs: And that's exactly what I want to do.
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Gibbs: Ms. Cooper asked about respect for history and respect for what Coconut Grove is.
That's exactly what this project is about. This project respects the heritage of Coconut Grove,
the history of Coconut Grove, the architecture of Coconut Grove. You want to talk about
commercial development in Coconut Grove. Everybody in this room knows where commercial
development in the West Grove started. Where did it start? Charles Avenue. Charles Avenue
was the historic commercial center of Coconut Grove. It was not Grand Avenue. Miles Jennings
explained Grand Avenue was zoned office with an FAR of what, 1.72? That's a lot of
development that could go on on Grand Avenue. It was -- and unlimited height. That was
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Grand Avenue up until several years ago when the SDs came in and the NCDs (Neighborhood
Conservation Districts) came in. Miles Jennings was also right when he said "and then they
tried to downzone it so it'd be shorter." No investors came. No investors came. Peter Gardner
-- the only investor that came was affordable housing, as Andy Parrish brought up, that was
going to be 10, 12 stories. And Chairman Gort, you were here when that issue came up before
this board and it was incredibly contentious. This project is not that. This is a neighborhood
project, a neighborhood project that meets the requirements of the NCD and also the zoning.
Your own Planning Department, with no ax to grind -- these are your professionals who are
trained to deal with these issues. They have looked at this plan and they have blessed this plan.
Your Planning Advisory Board -- your Planning and Zoning Advisory Board, excuse me,
unanimously voted to recommend this to you all. This project respects this community's future
and its past. One of the issues was about retailing and jobs. One of the things that every retailer
wants in any development is employees who can walk to work. That's what you all want to
encourage is employees who want to walk to work. Why? Because no retail owner wants to have
an employee take up parking spaces that can be used by customers, and that's what we were
talking about. Patrick Range will come up here and talk to you about those issues. He's talked
to you about it before; if you want to hear more about it. But Peter Gardner has made a
commitment, the commitment that didn't start when his project is going to begin. His
commitment began when he bought property in Coconut Grove. He has been to every single
meeting he's been invited to. He has gone to over 50 meetings, all the public hearings. And in
every meeting he says tell me -- give me a list of people who need jobs. I will help them get jobs.
Give me a list of people who you think are being kicked out of Coconut Grove; I will help them
find a place to stay in Coconut Grove. And yet, people don't want to hear that. I don't know why.
But the fact remains that Peter Gardner has done more than any other developer that I have ever
dealt with ine Coconut Grove to address the issues or I wouldn't be standing here in front of you.
When he came to me in 2007, I asked him specifically, I said are you willing to listen to the
people who are in the community. He said yes. That's why I want you on my team, and that's
why I'm here. Pierre talks about Roy's Barbeque. That was the boundary line of the West Grove.
Andl grew up in Coconut Grove. I'm born and raised here, andl went to -- I used to go to Roy's
Barbeque. It was a place where east and west could meet, where you could go into the West
Grove and you could meet people and you had friends there. And you know what, that is sorely
lacking today for whatever reason. This project, this project is going to allow that. This project
is going to encourage that. It's going to encourage communication. It's going to encourage
people to live, work, eat, and shop in this location. I leave you with the Coconut Grove Planning
Study of 1996. That planning study talked about what was going to happen in the Grove. The
West Grove participated strongly. The NCD-3, the SD-28 all came out of that planning study
that the Coconut Grove Village Council sponsored. And that planning study said what is going
to happen to Grand Avenue. They didn't want office. The community didn't want office. They
wanted retail. They wanted housing. And that's what we're doing. We're putting that here, and
we want to help the community. This is going to be the critical mass that will allow the further
development of this community. It's going to help it. Andl leave you with the last -- my last
comment. I wanted to say it. And let me find my statement, ifI can, and probably can't. After
many years of waiting for redevelopment in this area, I ask you: If not this project, then what
project; if not this developer, then what developer? The time to decide is now. And somebody
else said it here better than I. If you all say no to this project, what do we have left in Coconut
Grove? What other developer is going to dare put his foot or her foot in Coconut Grove to try to
do anything? The future is now and we have to grasp it. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. There's one question that I have. One of them mention -- that was the
individual -- about relocating the individuals that losing their apartments. I understand you're
working on that.
Mr. Gibbs: Absolutely.
Chair Gort: You will help -- to help those people?
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Mr. Gibbs: Yeah. And --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Gibbs: -- Mr. Range will tell you about it as he did --
Chair Gort: So Mr. Range is the person to talk to if you need to be relocated.
Mr. Gibbs: No. More importantly -- I'll tell you who to talk to. Margaret Nee --
Chair Gort: Okay.
Mr. Gibbs: -- who is the project manager who has sat down with people --
Chair Gort: Okay. Make --
Mr. Gibbs: -- and dealt with personal relocation. She will talk to everybody.
Chair Gort: Before you leave, make sure they get the phone numbers and so on. Thank you.
Mr. Gibbs: Let me -- you want me to give the phone number on the public record, because I
will?
Chair Gort: Go right ahead.
Mr. Gibbs: Okay, let me get it. The phone number is 305-913-5498. That is Margaret Nee's
direct line, and that deals with jobs, that deals with relocation. We are asking people to tell us
you want a job, you live in the Grove, come and talk to us. You feel you're being displaced, come
and talk to us. Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you. I'll now close the public hearings [sic]. Comment among board
members.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I thought, Patrick, you were going to -- you say you were going to
address something?
Mr. Range: I'm happy to. I think Tucker did it very eloquently. You know, throughout the
course of this project, folks who've been affected have had the opportunity to be relocated. At
the last PZAB meeting, at homeowners and tenants meetings we have said repeatedly, if you need
a job, please let us know. You know, we will certainly get that ball rolling. If you need a house,
if you were a former resident of Coconut Grove and you want to be back here, or if you live here
now and you're being displaced you feel and you want to remain here, let us know. I've said
directly to Pierre on a number of occasions -- at homeowners and tenants meetings and
otherwise, and Pierre's an honorable person and we're goodfriends, and hope to remain so.
But I've said to Pierre, provide me with the names of people who need housing here, provide me
with the names. Others have come, given names. Others have been relocated right here in the
Grove. Some of them are sitting in this room. Jobs. You've heard the persons that have come,
that needed jobs that have come and gotten them. You have to give us the opportunity. You have
to give us the opportunity. Give me the names. Tell me who the people are. Give us the
opportunity. You say nothing has been done, Pierre. I disagree. There are people in this room
who have been helped. There are people in this room right now. And if you know people who
need to be helped, let me know, let me know. I can't say it any stronger than that. My family's
business is here. I have to face this community every day. I don't intend to go anywhere. My
family doesn't intend to go anywhere. We're being affected by this project, but we're going to
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continue to be in this community.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So your family --
Mr. Range: And maybe perhaps you weren't here, Commissioner --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Range: -- but my family's business is on Grand Avenue --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, I know it.
Mr. Range: -- and directly affected by this project.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I might not have been here for the last two years, but I --
Mr. Range: No.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- obviously know that Range --
Mr. Range: I meant earlier this --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- Funeral Home is on Grand.
Mr. Range: -- meeting when I said that. That's what I meant.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. No, no. Of course I know Range is on --
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- but you mentioned they are going to be there, meaning like is it
your building going to stay there even with this development?
Mr. Range: No, but our business will be here. Our business will be here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: In the Grove?
Mr. Range: And that is thanks to Peter Gardner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I'm saying in the Grove.
Mr. Range: In the Grove.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: On Grand Avenue, the way we're planning it right now. On Grand Avenue.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can you -- where here on Grand?
Mr. Range: It's in the process. I can tell you exactly where. It's near the corner of Douglas and
Grand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So it's on the other side, on the --?
Mr. Range: Near the corner of Douglas and Grand. And that's thanks to Peter. Other
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developers that had come and told us they were building didn't care whether we stayed, could
have cared less. Didn't even bother to come and sit and talk to us. So I'm saying to you the
proof is in the pudding. There are people here who have been helped. We've said on the record
that we want to be there to help those people that need it, whether it be with housing or jobs, but
if you don't bring us the names, if we don't -- we can't reach everybody individually. We need the
help of this entire community to make this work and we're committed to do that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thank you.
Chair Gort: Thank you, sir. All right, Peter, you're welcome in District 1. We have a lot of
empty lots over there. Any time you want to come over and do a development, you're welcome
and I'll work with you on that one.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, Peter.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Love to have you in D5 (District 5) any time, any time.
Chair Gort: You got to diversify.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: You definitely have to diversity.
Chair Gort: Okay, public hearing is closed. And at this time we'll have comments from the
board members -- Commissioners.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Commissioner Sarnoff --
Chair Gort: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I'm sure you got a lot, right?
Chair Gort: It's your district, Commissioner Sarnoff.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So you're going to start first?
Commissioner Sarnoff.. You want to go first?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. I'll go after you.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I need to make a couple of Jennings' disclosures, Madam City Attorney.
I have met with Miles Jennings. I have met with Ms. Lane. I have met with Pierre Sands. I have
met with Mr. Bellinger. I have met with Peter Gardner. I have met with Margaret Nee. I have
met with Patrick Range. I have met with Ms. Bennie Chapman. I have met with a number of
residents as I walked up and down the Grove throughout this campaign, some of which I don't
recall off the top of my head.
Ms. Chiaro: If your disclosure relates to a Jennings' disclosure, you need to state the substance
of the conversations that you had. The statement can be made in a general sense if it was about
the project in general, but the disclosure requires that you state the substance of that which was
discussed.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. I had a meeting with Miles Jennings, Margaret Nee, Dr. Rick Holton,
Pierre Sands. The nature of it was to show the models to get input into how he would like to see
it -- what issues he had with the project, how he could frame his issues. No issues were framed at
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that meeting, other than I told him constitutionally anyone could come in and make a zoning
request for a change at any time on any piece of property in the United States of America. Ms.
Bennie Chapman andl probably spoke mostly about her home and she walked me around
showing me where the project was going to be. I had no substantive conversation because I
didn't happen to have a map or a plat at that time. Mr. Jennings and Dr. Holton were speaking
to Pierre at length about the fact that they both grew up in the Grove together, how they went to
school together, and how Rick Holton said if this doesn't happen now, I'm leaving the Grove.
And Mr. Jennings was saying under our watch, we've watched the Grove disintegrate. Those are
the extent of what I recall of -- what I could tell you of my Jennings' disclosures.
Mr. Sands: But you didn't say what I said.
Commissioner Sarnoff. I -- what I could tell you is that there were no issues framed at that
meeting. I asked him for specific issues that I could address with them as to the construction of
the project because the model was there. What I am disclosing is there were no issues framed.
Vice Chair Carollo: Are you going to continue, Mr. -- Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. What's that?
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you want to continue?
Commissioner Sarnoff. I'll continue.
Vice Chair Carollo: I just want to make sure that --
Commissioner Sarnoff. I just -- I'm waiting for her to say that's an adequate Jennings
disclosure.
Vice Chair Carollo: You got it. Madam City Attorney.
Ms. Chiaro: That disclosure complies with the Jennings rule.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Okay. You know, let me start by saying a contract is merely evidence of
an agreement between two people, but it is really nothing more than words on paper. What
really matters in life is the handshake and the eye contact between two men or women or man
and women, and that is the integrity of the two people shaking hands. Like I said, the words on
the paper are nothing more than evidence of their agreement, but the integrity of their agreement
are the two people. I don't usually talk about God andl don't talk about spirituality, maybe
because I'm not well schooled in it. I've met two people in my life thatl consider godly andl
consider spiritual. One of them sits on this dais, Commissioner Suarez. The second person is
Peter Gardner. He may not know that. I've never known Peter before I became Commissioner.
I think he's a spiritual man. I think he's a godly man. And I could not imagine him not
upholding his word to this community, living in this community. So while the words on the paper
mean something to me -- 'cause as a lawyer I'm trained to look at the words -- it is the integrity
of the man and his spiritualness that tell me he'll do what he says he's going to do. Coconut
Grove, in the words of Monty Trainer -- andl do like to use the three-legged stool analogy a
great deal -- is broken. It's been broken probably for the better part of 10 or 15, maybe even 20
years. You could put something down Grand Avenue and put a median on there, it really doesn't
change the fact that there's nothing on Grand Avenue to call it Grand. Just should be called the
vacant avenue. And there's nothing really left on Grand Avenue of major substance. I've heard
Commissioner Spence -Jones say to m let's extend the BID (Business Improvement District) down
Grand Avenue. You can't extend a BID on vacant property. You can't extend a BID on nonvital,
non fertile property. This particular property, which is part of a Bahamian community -- andl
will tell you one thingl learned. Having walked this past election cycle, I really learned what a
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pioneer meant, a pioneer family. This is an incredible, well -respected, well-thought-of
community of pioneers from Bahamian descent, that they're proudly, verociously [sic], and very
in touch with their Bahamian roots. There is a number of educators from the public health -- the
public school system that have retired on Florida Avenue. It is an amazing sight to see. This is
Ms. Lane. She's a retired school teacher. This is, you know, Mr. Rick Holton. He's retired, you
know, police officer and now educator himself. And you can walk up and down and see the
beautiful homes that exist there. And as they tried to explain to me, something happened: missed
opportunity, drugs. But an entire generation has been lost from what I perceive to be 60-,
70 year -old people that somehow didn't have the same opportunities that their parents had. And
to me, everything we do up here -- I've -- a couple of you have come to a couple of my -- when I
got sworn in and said the mantra should be three things: jobs, jobs, jobs. I'm not the biggest
believer in affordable housing because before you can afford a house, you have to have a job.
You all have a different feeling on that up here, I know that, but there's a lot of affordable
housing in context in this particular project. There are 19 affordable units right now. There will
be 34 when they're done. So if you just add those together, you're at a significant amount of 53
affordable units. I really look at this project as an opportunity, as an opportunity to create that
link between the Village West and the Central Grove. And in some respects, I think when this is
all said and done, the Center Grove is actually going to be very jealous of the Village West
because I think the newer and the more improved is going to exist on Grand Avenue. And, yes,
you do want people to shop. Yes, you want people of all color, all take. But you know what
people have to have in their pockets? They have to have dead presidents. They have to have
money. And money is a universal unifier of people because you need people to consume and that
is exactly what this project will do. It'll invite people to come into the neighborhood and
consume. It can be consumption with food. It can be consumption with retail facilities. You're
going to need obviously businesses. You're going to need commercial development. You're going
to have probably law offices, CPA (Certified Public Accountant) offices. And those are the
people that are going to be able to consume. You know, I said in the 2008 when we approved
part of this, I said turn the page. Let's say no to Peter Gardner. Let's be bold. Let's just say no
to Peter Gardner. Turn the page. What's next? Who's next? What's coming after that? What
happens? What happens in five years? What happens in ten years? You know what happened in
the previous five and you know what happened in the previous ten. Why does that change? Look
at your competition. Everybody in the Grove goes to me: You're the Commissioner of District 2.
You get to sit over Mary Brickell Village. You're going to be able to sit over Swire Properties.
You may sit over Genting. You're going to be sitting there when Midtown completes. You're over
there when the Design District and Craig Robbins and LVN goes in. How is the Grove going to
compete? Even I don't have the answer to that question 'cause if the Grove doesn't get its act
together and the Grove doesn't realize it's got a lot of refurbishment to do, the Grove will not
compete. There's a couple of places will make it. You know, Silvano's will make it. Lalo
Durazo's will make it. But it's not going to cohesively act as it should. And it -- there's a unique
place for Coconut Grove. There's a very unique place for this village. This village needs to
facilitate its own people. It's a great place for us. You know, I'll tell you a funny story. The
highest median income in South Florida exists not in Coral Gables; in Coconut Grove.
Ninety-seven thousand dollars a year is the geographic median income in Coconut Grove. I'll
tell you a funnier story. There are 12 schools in Coconut Grove, you're absolutely right. You
know what the average income of the people that drive their kids to the 12 schools is: $141,000 a
year. Look at the demographic that is coming into Coconut Grove that is not spending its money
in Coconut Grove. Look at the missed opportunities. You know, Coconut Grove for all too long
was "what about the next beer, what about the next beer. " And yet, look at the think tank that
has been created in Coconut Grove. You have Sony Music, Sony South America. You have Fort
Brescia. If Fort Brescia does half of his projects -- I'm sorry, that's Arquitectonica. If he does
half of his projects, he brings into Coconut Grove $2.5 billion. If he does a third of his projects,
he brings into Coconut Grove $1.1 billion. You have Crispin Importer, one of the best
advertising firms in the nation. You have Bruce Turkel. The Coconut Grove has become a think
tank. You may not know it, but it has. And once it learns how to react and act like the think tank
that it is, it will become the learning center for many, and it really is here already because I don't
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know if you're aware of the 12 schools; eight of those schools are in the top 100 in all of the
United States, but nobody tells that story. Nobody really tells the story Coconut Grove is the
26th safest city in the United States. Nobody tells the story Coconut Grove is the safest city in
Miami -Dade County. That didn't come just because it just happened to happen, but there wasn't
a lot of thought process in linking this entire story together and that's because the Grovites like to
do what Grovites like to do. They all like to have their own opinion. You know, if you have a
belly button in Coconut Grove, you have your own opinion. So how about this, how about we all
get behind a project? How about we all get behind the bridge that links the two Groves together.
I'm not going to tell you we're one Grove, but we could be one Grove and we should aspire to be
one Grove and we should aspire to not care anything about the color of our skin, our national
origin, but in the words of a great man, maybe we should all care about the content of our
character, and that's all we should really care about. And you're right; it does take consumption
to make a community do well. And the woman -- the lady -- I apologize; I don't remember your
name. You're right; you have to shop in order for that community to benefit. And the shops that
will be created in that community are what will rejuvenate that community. And you could throw
your hands up and not like what I'm saying. That's your right. But I'm telling you that the Grove
has a tremendous scar on it and that scar is Grand Avenue. And until you repair that scar, until
you put a leg of that stool back together, it will always act like a two -legged stool and appear to
be teetering. This is the chance -- because whatever we say in writing is evidence of a good
plan. But what you have is Peter Gardner, a man -- if the words don't say exactly what they
should, will come back and say my wife, my family, my community, my parents, we're all from
here, andl will make it right. Andl really do believe that. I really and truly do believe that.
And if not Peter Gardner, then who? The Marreros? If not Peter Gardner, then who?
Goldman? I mean, I'll name the guys that owned the property before. So they owned it and they
did what with it? You know, Miami better wake up. There are two kinds of people that own
property in Miami, and forgive me, Lucia Dougherty, because you represent both. You represent
the users, people who use their property, and you represent the holders, the people that hold
their properties. And you know what, far too long, far too many years there have been a lot of
holders of property in Miami and they've not used their property 'cause they're all waiting for
that next building boom to happen. They're all waiting for that great next assemblage of
property to happen. And they're all looking to get their score. And yeah, they're usually not from
Miami. They're usually a long way from here. Downtown; we have a number of people from
Iowa. And you want to know what? Those are the guys that were always complaining about and
dealing with a lot of vacant land owners. You don't have a vacant land owner here. You have a
man for the first time that I know in recorded history that actually owns the property and lives in
Coconut Grove. That in and of itself is a stamp and impeter (phonetic) of somebody that really
cares, 'cause he can't go run and hide. He can't -- you know, he drives that electric car. He puts
his kids in it. He's not going to go run and hide. He's going to be out there. He's at
GreenStreet's more than me, andl don't know how you could do that, Peter, because that's
supposed to be the District 2 Commissioner's spot. But you're out there all the time. I just really
believe in this man. I think this is a good project. I think this project has evolved. He survived
Lehman Brothers. There aren't too many people who have survived Lehman Brothers. I
certainly hope each and every one of these Commissioners sitting up here will respect the
District 2 Commissioner, respect his district, and help me support this project, not because it's
necessarily only good 'cause it's District 2, but think about it. Your dad shares this district with
me. You know, your brother was a big proponent of Coconut Grove and lived here.
Commissioner Gort's been here for a very long time. Commissioner Spence -Jones spends her
time in Coconut Grove. So if you don't think this is the right project, I guess don't vote for it. But
ask yourself when you turn that page, you go to Page 47, what happens on Page 48, 49, and 50?
What are you going to write? What song are you going to write? What hymn are you going to
write? Because if not Peter, where does it go from here? So I strongly urge each one of my
fellow Commissioners to support this. It is the right project for the right time at the right moment
at a critical juncture in Coconut Grove's life.
Chair Gort: Is that a motion?
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Commissioner Sarnoff. It's a motion to approve.
Chair Gort: Okay, there's a motion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: And second. Further discussion.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Discussion.
Chair Gort: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Let me just say, the one thing that -- for me in the midst of
listening to the hearing, I think the one thing that I can honestly say that there is -- whether or
not both sides may not agree to what all the issues are regarding the project, I think there's at
least a consensus in the room that something needs to be done. Andl really waited to hear the
Grovites or the West Grove folks get up and really communicate something, you know, different
outside of the fact that -- at least communicate that maybe perhaps they didn't want to have the
project happen so that I at least could be fair and balanced in my judgment. And the one thing
thatl did not hear clearly was that you did not want the project to happen. And I'm saying that
to say, you know, I didn't hear the strong enough opposition in the room saying that we don't
want it to happen. I just heard -- based upon what I've heard in this hearing, there were key
things about the projects that you wanted to see change, and to me that's a beginning point. And
I would like to further explore that, you know. Andl have some questions regarding some of
these items so that I can have clarity from the applicant. The one thing that I did hear also, that
-- the second thing heard that stood out very clear to me, even those that opposed perhaps or
had some issues with the project I would say, is that Peter was a good man. And whether or not,
you know, they were all the way happy with the project altogether, the one thing that did come
out of this hearing to me loud and clearly is that you are a good person, and I think that's a great
start as well because to me that shows that you really want to do something good and that you're
really trying to do the necessary outreach to make sure that the residents, the people that are
there that may feel that they're being displaced from the project, you're trying to find a way to
engage them, so I felt good about that. My colleague that sits to my right -- what's the comment
you made earlier? I'm trying --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Taken?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. That was taken with me today. I respect the fact that he's
really trying to figure out a way to make something happen on Grand. You know, Grand -- or I
can say at least the West Grove, when we start looking at development that's happening in, I
would say, blighted areas -- andl know that we heard earlier that don't describe, you know, my
area as a blighted area. I can tell you as a City Commissioner that sits on the dais that
represents Liberty City, Overtown, Little Haiti, areas where I have rows and rows of vacant lots
and abandoned properties, I die for development to happen there. I push very hard to work with
as many people to see how I could transform it. But in the midst of that, the one thing that I try
to do because a lot of times when we're talking about redeveloping our areas, it's very
challenging a lot of times to get people to come in. But those that do have an interest in coming
in, it becomes my responsibility as the elected official to figure out a way to make sure that the
residents that are there that are a part of it are really engaged in the process. And that's one of
the reason, Commissioner Sarnoff, thatl drive the City staffers crazy a lot of the times, is thatl
try to build -- especially if it's me giving money, me giving land, me giving zoning changes, thatl
try to put a community benefits agreement in it, that at least we can have some common ground.
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And I think that some of the things I heard earlier -- I know that Patrick discussed earlier that
the developer was looking at doing everything from minority subcontractors participating in the
project to recruiting businesses in the area to actually participate to retail ownership. 'Cause
honestly -- I'm going to be very clear, and this was our decision earlier on the Marlins stadium.
A lot of times the jobs are great, but when you're talking about building a community, it really
goes beyond just having a job. It's about having ownership to a certain extent. And for me, you
know -- andl can say this because, you know, I represent a district that truly has many
challenges. But I also realize how important it is in order for me to rebuild those communities;
that have to empower if not the people that are living there, people that reflect the people that
live there, empower them so that they begin to see people looking like them making their
community work. Andl can say this -- I see some of the partnerships that Peter has really tried
to do to make sure those small businesses are at least benefiting, you know, from the things that
are actually happening. So I see the intentions. They're truly there. Andl see the fact that you
are trying to make sure that it does have an affording housing mix in it, you know, and -- you
know, to the tune of 53 units, I would like to see a little bit more than that, but again, that's the
beginning of the discussion, you know. But I see the effort, which a lot of times you don't see that
at all. So I start with a few questions that have for the team so that I have clarity. I know we
have a motion and we have a second on the item. Andl can tell you this, I think that, you know,
coming back to the dais after being gone for two years from the dais and just in general when we
start talking about having discussions about other Commissioners' districts and weighing in, we
generally support the Commissioner and their projects. You know, we had a hearty discussion
earlier about the Marlins stadium, but again, we were able to find resolutions. And that's what
this is all about. It's about -- yes, it's Commissioner Sarnoffs district and yes, you know, there
are clear things that he wants to see done, but we all that sit on this dais have a responsibility to
all the residents, whether or not it's my district or your district. And when you sit out and you
look into the audience -- or you sit here and you look into the audience's -- audience and you see
the faces of people that are being affected by the decision that you make, you have a
responsibility. It doesn't matter whether or not they look like you or not. We just have a
responsibility to try to do the right thing. Andl say that -- you know, Commissioner Sarnoff
mentioned, you know, that it should not be based upon the color of your skin. You know, Dr.
King came up a lot today in our discussions about our surtax. But the reality is -- and I'm just
telling you whether or not you fully understand it or we fully understand that, most of the times,
unfortunately, it is not judged upon the character -- the content of your character. It is a lot of
times based upon other things. There is a perception that goes along with it. It may not be true
in all instances, but some of the comments today that were made by people that presented today,
I can see how people were offended by that because I, sitting up here, was offended, you know.
So we have -- the first part of even having a good relationship with each other is respecting each
other, and despite whether or not we have a drug issue, whether or not we're afraid to ride down
Grand Avenue -- in some instances, some of these people were here and their ancestors were
here before you were even thinking about being here. So there should be at least a level of
respect when it comes to how you talk about where people are from. So I know that my
colleagues up here would agree with me on that, andl know that we want to try to move in that
direction, you know, to build a one Grove, because as Monty said earlier, it is a one Grove. But
then you have another group of people in the room saying that it's not. Andl am pleased to hear
from the district Commissioner that he's working to make sure it is a one Grove if it's not. So to
me, that's a start. So I want to move on to really what my -- some of my issues and concerns are.
Andl want to ask Lucia, or whoever's going to be talking, to address for me -- and hopefully, by
the time we see each other again, whether or notl vote for it or not, that we begin to come back
with real answers so that -- I'm assuming that hopefully the residents that live here have the
opportunity to come back and participate so that they can really voice their opinions. Andl
know that in listening to some of the individuals that, you know, came up that are from the Grove
or the West Grove or that are Bahamian descent, you know, it's very difficult sometimes for me to
hear you put something on the record when you have a direct benefit from it. You know, because
for me a lot of times it's really about hearing the people that have nothing to gain from it. 'Cause
when you have nothing to gain from it, you're doing it because it's the righteous thing to do.
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There's no motivation behind it. But you just want it to be right. So I have to give respect to the
fact that these are individuals that came out, sat out, spoke very eloquently. The sister with her
hair wrapped up, you know, and -- that's the kind of leadership we need to begin to groom. We
don't need to suppress it; we need to support it, because it's people like her that's going to be
able to encourage other young Grovites or West Grove or West Village. I don't -- what do y'all
call it, West Village, West Grove?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Village West.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Village West. That -- individuals like that are going to try to
encourage young people to feel good about where they live. So my question is first on the blocks
that say Paradise Island block and Abaco block, right?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Abaco is where the Publix is coming, correct?
Ms. Dougherty: The grocery store, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. So I'm glad to see that means jobs, jobs, jobs. That's
awesome. My question is -- I know that we talked about Peter owning all -- this is his
development. My question becomes does he own these two blocks outright? Because if it's Peter
-- and Peter, you look like you have angel -- you must have wings or something on you because
nobody -- I had not one person say anything bad about you, so you know, that means you're
doing something right. So the question becomes -- because if that is the case and if it's Peter
that's ultimately responsible for these four blocks, for me then I can trust and believe that what
he's saying at least at this point is going to happen. But when we start diluting whether or not
Peter actually has ownership in these two blocks, then that's when it becomes a concern for me.
So, Lucia, does he own these two blocks?
Ms. Dougherty: He has some of it under contract and some of it under ownership.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. When you say some of it under contract and some of it
under ownership --
Ms. Dougherty: He owns some of it and some of it he has under contract.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Can you tell me the percentage that he owns?
Ms. Dougherty: Of those two blocks?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. I mean --
Ms. Dougherty: Of Abaco and Paradise?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: That -- does he own everything?
Ms. Dougherty: No.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So -- right. So I'm -- Nassau block and Grand Bahamas
[sic] he owns? And there's a reason why I'm asking you this question.
Iris Escarra: Out of Paradise, there's 23 lots, and he owns 16.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
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Ms. Escarra: And you're asking -- the next one is Abaco.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: Name for the record.
Ms. Escarra: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Suarez: Name for the record.
Chair Gort: And you are?
Ms. Escarra: Iris Escarra, with offices at 333 Avenue of the Americas.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, while she's looking at that, I don't want to hold up -- I want
to keep the process moving. So then my question becomes whatever deal that -- or partnership
that he has on these two lots, lets -- whether or not he sells them or not, the question becomes --
the 16 that he does not own --
Ms. Dougherty: No, he owns 16 of them.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: He owns 16. So of the --
Ms. Dougherty: Out of the 23, he owns 16.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- remaining, what, seven, is it? That would be seven?
Commissioner Suarez: Eight.
Chair Gort: Uh-huh.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: If he does not -- if he's not able to sell them --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Buy them.
Ms. Dougherty: He's not able to buy them.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Buy them, buy them, then what happens? This project kind of
changes a little bit?
Ms. Dougherty: Well, I can't imagine why somebody wouldn't sell it to him. They have a
contract to buy it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. No, I don't think you're explaining it well enough for her.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. What --
Ms. Dougherty: Oh, okay.
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Commissioner Sarnoff. He's a fee simple owner of 16 lots. He has a contract to purchase --
Ms. Dougherty: Correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff. -- for the other lots, so he would then own 100 percent of that block.
Ms. Dougherty: That's right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff. That's what she's asking.
Ms. Dougherty: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right. So and the same thing applies for Abaco?
Ms. Escarra: Out ofAbaco there's 14 lots and he owns 10, and he has the other four under
contract.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Under contract. So that was one of my questions, because that
came up as an issue, you know, whether or not he actually owns the property outright to even be
able to make this kind of decision. Or if the owners of these lots decide, hey, I want to do
something different after the zoning change has happened, does the residents get stuck with
something that they don't want to see happen there?
Ms. Dougherty: Well, that's a good -- very good question. The answer is no, the residents don't
get stuck with something because they have to build that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So --
Ms. Dougherty: That is a requirement under the Major Use Special Permit.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So part of my questions, Lucia --
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- is not to -- I'm not trying to create an issue for you. I want the
people of West Grove that are either watching this or that are sitting in here in this -- in the
chambers, I want them to understand --
Ms. Dougherty: That's a very good question.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- they have to fully understand because there's a lot of
misinformation out there about the project, and the only way that changes is communication and
making sure we're clear on it. So --
Ms. Dougherty: So if somebody decided I want to keep my lot, I don't want to put it -- I don't
want to sell it to you, there's nothing they can do with their property because they have to build
this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, okay, so that's great. So these two lots, I understand it, and
if they -- if that doesn't happen, then it reverts back to whatever zoning it was.
Chair Gort: Right.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Correct?
Ms. Dougherty: That's right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm seeing -- she's shaking her head.
Ms. Dougherty: Well, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And you're saying yeah.
Ms. Dougherty: Two things -- one thing. If it doesn't happen at all, they can't develop anything
other than what this Major Use Special Permit is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, all right. So that handles that question. Let me go down to
Elizabeth Street, which is the block right behind it 'cause -- where you mentioned about the
churches. I mean the church --
Ms. Dougherty: Yes. That's Paradise.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I don't know the name of -- what's the name of that church?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Christ Episcopal.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Christ --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Episcopal.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- Episcopal. The question was on that -- there was a question
around the block behind it. I think somebody lived on that Thomas Avenue -- as to whether or
not -- and also Thomas Avenue on the opposite side -- them abutting actually a commercial -- the
commercial project. The question is the Paradise Island block rear, what was -- just so I'm
clear, what was going to happen with that lot? Because that's like -- that's basically in the heart
of the residential area at that point.
Ms. Dougherty: We --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Thomas on --
Ms. Dougherty: The woman who spoke whose lot was affected, is that the one you're speaking
of
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No. It was another lady --
Ms. Dougherty: Or was on Thomas?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- that spoke in reference to --
Ms. Dougherty: She's on Florida.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: No, I'm not -- Florida, I haven't gotten to.
Ms. Dougherty: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm speaking of -- let me show you what I'm talking about.
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Chair Gort: Thomas Avenue. The brown peninsula coming into Thomas Avenue being a dead
end, that's what she's addressing.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: It's called Paradise Island block rear. Is -- at this point you're
saying you're losing -- using it as a parking lot, but it's zoned residential. Or it's being used as
parking.
Commissioner Sarnoff. It changed.
Ms. Escarra: It's being used as a church.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Huh?
Ms. Escarra: It's being used as a church. The church is a part of our application. They
consented and signed with us on the application so they're part of the application.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So right now it's used for parking?
Ms. Dougherty: It's used for parking and a church, both.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So then my question becomes but it's zoned -- this zoning
change will now make it --
Ms. Dougherty: It will make it residential.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And how high will that go?
Ms. Dougherty: There will be nothing on this parcel at all.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So it would just be -- houses could be put there?
Ms. Dougherty: It'll be exactly what it is today.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So no houses will go there?
Ms. Dougherty: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Nothing goes there?
Ms. Dougherty: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So it's just going to be blank land?
Ms. Dougherty: No. It's a church and parking lot, what it is right now.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Parking lot.
Ms. Dougherty: Nothing changes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh, okay. So then why -- so I'm just trying to understand. Then
why are you --?
Ms. Dougherty: Well --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: 'Cause I just want to -- I'm -- explain it to me, Marc --
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Ms. Dougherty: No. I -- let me --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- so I'm not --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Once they had a plan that was going to go back here --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Commissioner Sarnoff. -- what they did was, instead of going to this length, they decided to go
up.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Commissioner Sarnoff. So I'm not even too sure why they show this any longer. It's going to
stay the way it is.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Oh.
Commissioner Sarnoff. So what they chose to do was as opposed to coming over to here, they're
going to stay here and go up to 81 feet.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So there'll be space in between -- okay. So, Lucia, on -- has the --
so let me ask this question so I'm clear. So the zoning change we have happening today is
keeping it what it is or you're now ask -- they're now asking --
Commissioner Sarnoff. They're going to make it residential.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: They're going to make it residential.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Right, so it doesn't have (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, all right. Cool. All right.
Ms. Dougherty: Before, we -- our original application brought the zoning all the way past
Thomas unto this area here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I gotcha.
Ms. Dougherty: So --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So basically Thomas Avenue will not be really affected by --?
Ms. Dougherty: That's correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Dougherty: All of this will remain exactly as it is today.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so -- again, clarity. When you -- when I see this, I'm just
telling you, it looks like --
Ms. Dougherty: Oh, yeah, exactly.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- another building is going right in front of other people 's homes
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so I have a -- I had a concern about that. So thank you for answering that question. On Florida
Avenue where the -- I don't remember what your names, but the lady in the pretty green shirt.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Ms. Chapman.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Chapman, Ms. Chapman. She mentioned her house being
somewhat in the middle of all of this, right?
Ms. Dougherty: I'll show you where her house is. Now, on Florida Avenue, there are some
cutouts you see there that are not rezoned. That's because we didn't purchase those.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Ms. Dougherty: These are people who didn't want to buy -- including hers, which is -- she is
right -- let me see. She's right here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Dougherty: Okay. So this is her lot. The lot next door is still going to be vacant and the lot
next door next to that. So in the plan what's going to happen is that there'll be a landscape
buffer all around, and the only place there's actually going to be a building is on Grand Avenue.
So there will not be a building here. It's surface parking and surface parking that is surrounded
by landscaping.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, all right. And, Ms. Chapman, was this the first day that
you've seen this?
Ms. Chapman: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F)
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So you -- is that much better than what it -- what you had
seeing earlier?
Ms. Chapman: Yes, because what I'm seeing --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know you can't really talk, but --
Ms. Chapman: I just wanted to say that (UNINTET,TIGIBLE).
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are you okay with her saying she's okay with it?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
Ms. Chapman: Can l tell you what l thought I saw?
Todd Hannon (Assistant City Clerk): Excuse me, Chair.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Chair Gort: It has to be on the mike if you're going to ask her --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Gort: -- to spec.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah. 'Cause it doesn't look bad the way that it see -- I'm seeing
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that it's being proposed now.
Ms. Chapman: What I first saw was that they were going to try to push me out --
Chair Gort: Block you in.
Ms. Chapman: -- build all around me, and I'll be a little something like in between here with tall
buildings around me and I'm squashed in here andl won't be able to see flowers or grass or
nothing.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Are they giving you trees and --?
Ms. Chapman: Yes. She said they're going to be landscaping.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Ms. Chapman: Andl will be able to, you know, see around. That's whatl was asking them. I
want to know what's what because I didn't understand.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So I think we cleared up that question to that. Thank you.
And then on the additional areas that are carved out, Lucia --
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- they're just going to become green spaces for now?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Or parking lots or parking --?
Ms. Dougherty: Green spaces, parking lots, but remember --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Buffer.
Ms. Dougherty: -- the buffer that the Planning Department made us approve or actually made a
recommendation and you're going to approve is going to have a 25-foot single-family buffer
here.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Ms. Dougherty: And all the rest of it's going to be landscaped all around it.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Chair Gort: That'll avoid the domino effect that people are scared of.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Unidentified Speaker: It stays residential.
Chair Gort: So it stays residential. In that way it'll stay residential.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And again, it's just making sure that they understand it, because
I'm sitting up here andl was confused. So --
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Ms. Dougherty: Let me tell you something.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I know if I'm sitting --
Ms. Dougherty: It was a very complex --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- up here andl'm confused, I know they got to be confused.
Ms. Dougherty: It was a very complex process and project, andl struggled with how to explain
it the best way we could, andl understand your -- why you're saying that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. Really, quickly -- so that was the only issue I had on the
map. You had another little small Freeport block, little square thing here. I don't know what --
what was that going to be used --?
Ms. Dougherty: That one left -- was left out in the original rezonings --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, so you --
Ms. Dougherty: -- remember, a long time ago. So we're just cleaning this one up.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, great. All right, so I'm finished with the maps. So I have a
couple other community benefits that -- andl guess this will be more of a Patrick Range part of it
'cause I'm assuming that his role becomes to make sure the community actually gets the benefits
out of the development that's actually happening. My recommendation on the -- is there, first of
all, a community benefits agreement included in Peter's agreement?
Mr. Range: There are --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I mean, not agreement, but is there a community benefits
agreement just in general that goes along with this application? There is --
Mr. Range: We've outlined, you know, all those things in the presentation that, you know, we
have committed to do, the partnerships that we have made, and actually many of those have been
presented to the community already.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So when you say to me -- andl'm just asking, 'cause like for my
district, for instance, I really try to make sure I put percentages in or I try to at least make sure
the surrounding area benefits from it.
Mr. Range: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: My question becomes -- I don't really like to add names to things,
like when you say Bill Diggs, I think that there needs to be just language in the community -- I
don't think you should tie people's names to --
Mr. Range: Right.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I think that's a bad practice.
Mr. Range: I would agree with that.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: I would agree with that. I --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Not that I have a problem with Bill. I love Bill.
Mr. Range: But I did want to show, you know, the outreach that we have actually done. You
know --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Range: -- the folks that we have actually talked to. And mentioned the two names thatl
did because I know that folks, particularly here in the City ofMiami, are familiar with the work
that they do. So that was the only reason, not so much that we've got to be tied to them and so
forth. And I understand exactly where you're coming from.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: We don't want those headaches.
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I'm not telling you to choose or --
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- do nothing.
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So that -- I would like to see, Commissioner Sarnoff, if we can --
as a part of the overall commitment to West Grove, is to make sure that definitely it's clear on
what -- the partnership from the construction side of it that addresses the subcontractors and the
contractors on it, whether or not it's 10 percent of the con -- whatever that is. I don't need to tell
you what that is. I think that that's important to at least make sure it's clear so that at least they
have something to keep you accountable on.
Mr. Range: Sure.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I would like to definitely see that.
Mr. Range: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The other part of this, I love the idea that you're doing retail
ownership so the retail ownership reflects, I'm assuming, the community. That's why you're
doing it.
Mr. Range: Correct.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: The amount of retail space is how much -- how many square
footage -- how much square footage?
Mr. Range: I believe it's 705 -- I'm sorry. Oh, retail. I'm sorry. A hundred and seventy-three
thousand on the retail square footage.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: A hundred and seventy-three thousand?
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Mr. Range: Square feet, yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Wow. So --
Mr. Range: Again, this is amongst all six blocks.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I know. I mean, it just --
Mr. Range: And you know --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I look at the --
Mr. Range: -- we have retail on ground floor of every block.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So just a suggestion, I really would like for you to -- when
you look at that amount, for instance, in the garage that we're building now, I think it's only
what, 50,000 square feet of retail. So you're doing 173,000? So I really would like to see that
you guys kind of reach out a little bit more to go a little -- that's just my recommendation --
Mr. Range: Okay.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: --from an ownership standpoint. If we're talking about really
building people, I think that's the first step and that -- to me, that -- what I saw you present seems
a little weak, so I would like to see at least a greater effort on that end. The affordable housing
part of it, the 53 units that Commissioner Sarnoff mentioned -- It is 53, right?
Mr. Range: That's correct.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. (UNINTET,T IGIBT,F) 19 --
Mr. Range: Nineteen that are already existing in an operation that are occupied right now --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: -- outside of the project, okay, and then an additional 34 that we hope to add --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: -- to the project.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: This is 53 out of how many units being built?
Mr. Range: Total of 257, so it actually amounts to over 20 percent affordable if you add the 50
-- you know, if you make that calculation. You'd like for me to work on that also.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah, if you can. Okay, all right. And, Commissioner Sarnoff, I
just wanted to mention this to you. I know a -- like in a lot of the developments that I'm doing in
my district now, I'm really trying to make sure that we're building into the people 'cause I think
that we can build stuff but if the people aren't prepared for growth -- you could put this pretty
building all day long. I'm just telling you. Is it going to be gorgeous and it's going to be
gorgeous and push everybody out. So my question -- and I'm not really sure if you have built in
some sort of --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Job training.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, do you have job training on it?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay, 'cause he didn't mention it. There's a job training?
Mr. Range: Well actually -- absolutely, I did. I can -- we've already -- and won't mention
names, but there is an existing job training program that's been going on for a number of years.
We've contacted the director of that program.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: She's come out, met with us; said that she is absolutely on board.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Board.
Mr. Range: They have an existing database, over 1,000 businesses here locally. Again, we are
requiring that all of our tenants --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Mr. Range: -- in our retail become a part of that database so that they are accessible to
receiving, you know, those persons who have been trained
Commissioner Spence -Jones: If we can -- South Florida Workforce, they do a great job. I love
them, but a lot of times we don't -- our residents don't get anything out of that. So I would like to
make sure as a part of the community benefits agreement, we have a one -stop shop that we're
going to be announcing next year. It would be great if whatever jobs that people have an interest
in, that at least this becomes a project that people can get the construction work or the
hospitality work or whatever is going to perhaps go there, that this -- there's a partnership with
the City ofMiami from that perspective to make sure City ofMiami residents actually participate.
Mr. Range: We'd be certainly happy to partner with you on that. Actually we have the office --
the closest office for the training program that we're working with is actually on -- is it 8th
Street? -- 8th Street and 27th Avenue. We actually have asked them, and they have done so --
actually have a site in Shady Grove Baptist Church here in the West Grove where it's operating
so people have easy access to go and apply and so forth. And we've also committed to provide
space within our project. If for some reason, that space should go away, we've committed to
provide space for that training program to be housed within our project.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. I have two more things, Mr. Chairman, and I'll be out of
your way. On -- Patrick --
Chair Gort: You're never in my way.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- on the -- are there any partnerships with this development with
any of the local CDCs (Community Development Corporations)?
Mr. Range: I know that certainly there has been -- you know, we've worked with some of the --
most of the agencies that are here in the Grove, whether it be through volunteer support, through
financial support, those that are appropriate, you know, to work with us -- I mean, obviously,
some are not in this, you know, purview, but those that are appropriate, absolutely, we've tried to
work with and we're open to working with.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay. So the only reason I'm mentioning this -- and only -- again,
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it's about building people. It's about making sure we're investing in the residents that are
actually there now.
Mr. Range: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So when I look at this project, I see how beautiful it is, but also
see where it cuts off. I see where it stops. And know that there's other parts of Grand Avenue
that still need redevelopment. And my question becomes, it seems as though there's resources
that Peter has available that maybe could provide some sort of technical assistance or guidance
so that the whole area is coming up at the same time. So my question becomes -- I mean, I'm
glad this is happening, but only thing's going to happen is this is going to be beautiful, and then
you're going to have what you have on Grand Avenue move down, so --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Commissioner, just to the west --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Sure.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. -- is the Thelma Gibson project that is partnering with the University of
Miami, and that's going to have -- I've heard 60 and then I've heard 38, I don't know which, but
either 60 or 38 affordable housing units that they received $8.5 million from Commissioner
Suarez -- the dad, not him.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. You usually don't have $8.5 million laying around. And then there's the
Guts project, which is just further west of them, and they are in conversation about developing
the very end of Grand Avenue by Douglas right there.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And then my question becomes, so that it's a unified approach, are
they all working together?
Mr. Range: Perhaps I can address that, Commissioner.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So you don't have this looking all beautiful. I'm just telling you.
And then you get two blocks down and it's looking a hot mess so --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Well, it's not going -- I think your question's a little different. I think
your question is if those two projects go, are they going to look something like this. And the
answer is we certainly hope so, but you can't force them to make it look Bahamian.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Well, no, it's not even that.
Chair Gort: No, no.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: I --
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Those projects --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- it's part of that, but what -- really, what I was trying to say, I
think that if you're bringing major investment into an area, one would be interested in what's
happening on the left side of it --
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- or around it.
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Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And part of investing in that neighborhood is investing in the
people. So the question becomes just like -- can't speak for any other district -- but any major
development, like the developments I'm doing in Overtown, for instance, Block 25 and 36
abutting the Lyric Theater. Part of them being able to go there is that their -- some of the
resources that they have coming from that project supports the Lyric's existence so they can
continue to be around. So I'm not asking for you guys to do that, but is that kind of partnership
in place already?
Mr. Range: Two things I'd like to say. First of all, in fact, you are absolutely right. With the
level of investment that's coming, you know, with this project, you know, there is an absolute
concern for what's going to happen around it 'cause obviously that will affect the success of this.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Right.
Mr. Range: Andl won't, again, mention a name, but in fact, there is a group that Pointe is
looking to partner with who owns property in the West Grove, not a part of this project --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Mr. Range: -- that we are looking to, again, partner with for development purposes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: Also, I'm not aware of a CDC in the Grove, but this particular group that I'm
speaking of is a historic group that's been a part --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Okay.
Mr. Range: -- of the Grove for many, many years.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So that is happening. So I'm assuming that when this item comes
back to us again, then we'll have a better understanding about how the overall area is coming
up?
Mr. Range: Absolutely.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: 'Cause that -- I think that is important.
Mr. Range: Very good.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: And then I think that was it. I want to address my Wynwood
person. Where is he? You mentioned -- not my Wynwood person; my Buena Vista person.
Because it is so important when we put stuff out there, that we understand everything that's going
on. You mentioned about Midtown and Wynwood. Actually, Commissioner Sarnoff andl share
Wynwood. He has a piece of it and have a piece of it. And you are absolutely right; having
Midtown there has done so much for the area from the standpoint of there being jobs and there
being the vitality and just seeing things moving. It's been awesome. But I also can tell you there
has been a flip side of it in Wynwood. The residents that live there, that were born and raised,
like these raised -- I'm talking about my Puerto Ricans and Dominicans that are from the
Wynwood area -- feel like the people feel right now in West Grove. Because part of all the stuff
that's happened, which is great, it's wonderful, but many of them feel as though there's no place
for them now. So on one end, yes, it's beautiful that's happening, but on the other end, we got to
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figure out a way for both communities to work together. You know, it's -- when people have lived
somewhere, their grandchildren, their mothers, their fathers have lived somewhere and made a
development happens, we understand change has to come, but there also has to be a concerted
effort to make sure the people that have been there for God knows how long feel as though
they're included as well. So every development effort I have in my district that I have to include
both, you know, 'cause change does have to come, I try to make sure I include the people in the
decision -making process so that we don't ever have this issue. So while Wynwood, yes, is all of
that, you have the residents that have been there for God knows how long that have a issue and a
concern with what's happening all around them and them being pushed out. So all want to do
is make sure that at the end of the day, the West Grove doesn't feel that way; they feel as though
they were at the table. They know change has to come and it's here, but they were included and
that's what I think -- nobody really here said anything negative. I don't think they said anything
negative, andl'm glad that they spoke up. People have to have a voice in what's happening in
their communities, and we shouldn't fault them for that and we shouldn't make them feel like they
are wrong for that. And we shouldn't pit each other against each other because that's wrong.
Because if it was where you was born and raised and lived, you wouldn't want it to happen to
you, so -- and I'm not saying -- I'm not singling you out. I'm just giving you the point. The point
is I understand their viewpoint 'cause I'm dealing with it right now in Wynwood, with how they
feel about what's happening there. So I think that -- as far as I'm concerned, I think that as long
as -- Patrick, when you come back for the next hearing and we address some of these main
issues, you know, I think that at least the residents will at least feel engaged in the process andl
think we're almost there. You know, I don't think that it's -- we are in a bad place. Andl
commend Peter for hanging in there, you know, because, you know, a lot of people leave and you
decided to stay, so you should be commended for that. I'm just asking that you just push a little
harder to make sure that at least the people that are there now really feel like you have gone the
extra mile to try to really help on that level, andl think these items will help us get there. And to
my fellow colleague, Commissioner Sarnoff, I am so grateful to hear in your voice, you know,
that you are really trying, really, really trying to really build that bridge. I think that's extremely
important. Andl think that being a leader and even you putting it on the record about the
Jennings, you know, andl'm glad you did that -- we all know what happens when you don't -- but
the mere fact that you were even willing to step across the line to bring both sides together, even
knowing that it may create an issue but you thought that it was important and you didn 't remove
yourself from the situation, you took responsibility over it, needs to be commended too. I just
would like to appeal to you to try to do as much as you can to make sure these two groups of
people are at least working together.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. You know, I -- you know what, I agree with you. And that's why during
this election, I decided thatl would absolutely --I walked door to door. I walked that entire
neighborhood. I saw another side of the equation. I tried to sit everybody down. I will continue
to try to sit everybody down 'cause I do agree with you. I think a lot of this is -- you know, this is
some misinformation out there. This is something that's being circulated in the Village West,
great big stop sign, and it essentially says they're going to throw you out of your homes. You
know, that's scare tactics. And scare tactics, you know, in my opinion, have no place in City
Hall, and you really don't need to scare people so that they come here -- when, you know -- I said
to Yvonne McDonald's mother, who I think is still back there, that there would be nobody in
between me and the Village West in terms of reporting to my office; that that would be a direct
issue between -- and nobody else has that.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yeah.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. So I am primarily responsible for the West Grove. I say that on the
record. I say it very clearly. There is nobody to go in between in my office. I go directly to the
West Grove maybe out of a sense of I don't know, pride, a sense of yearning. I mean, I consider
Alice Smith like my second mother and, you know, I'm not going to fail her. So Mary Alice, I
know you're back there.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: So --
Mr. Sands: For the record --
Chair Gort: Excuse me, excuse me.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Let --
Mr. Sands: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F).
Chair Gort: The public record's [sic] closed.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- me say -- just say this. Andl love your energy, Pierre. I mean,
we need a hundred of you. Can I borrow you for my district as well? So --
Mr. Sands: Yes.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- I get you. But I think that we have to recognize that there is an
olive branch that's happening here, andl think that, you know, we have to operate from a place
of wisdom and know that we can't stop Peter from, you know, investing -- first of all, he owns his
-- he owns the land, and he could have chosen to go anywhere else and do anything else. Andl
would like to at least see that the two groups can get together, and you do have a Commissioner
now that at least, you know -- listen, out of all people, I'm sitting up here saying I'm just
impressed to see the growth -- yes -- which is great, you know. So I think by the time we see each
other on December 15, I think that we'll all be in the chambers singing Kumbaya and finding a
way to make sure everybody's happy. So that's the only thing thatl want to say. Andl have to
say that I'm very proud of you and proud to see that you're really trying to build that bridge. So
I'm going to stop preaching right now because I know I'm going --
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- to have two more hours of my colleague about this Marlins
stadium --
Vice Chair Carollo: And me too.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: -- and we probably won't go home in the morning -- until the
morning.
Vice Chair Carollo: More like 3 or 4.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Commissioner Suarez, you have the floor.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I went to elementary school in the Grove.
The Grove is very, very near and dear to my heart. Played basketball with a County
Commissioner for that area for the first time when I was about 9 or 10 years old at V rrickPark,
and the Grove has come a very, very long way from that. I don't think that the Grove is
dangerous. In fact, I know the Grove is not dangerous so I agree with Pierre. I don't -- also, I
don't think the Grove is blighted. If the Grove was blighted, it would be a CRA (Community
Redevelopment Agency). It's beautiful. To me the Grove is beautiful. I think there's just a couple
of things that wanted to address or specific things that were said by specific people that
wanted to discuss. One of them was Ms. Cook, Lori. She spoke about the height, andl think
that's a concern and that's a -- you know, obviously that's a concern for you and it's a -- you
know, I look at Grand in -- very similarly to Coral Way in a lot of ways, and we had an issue in
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Coral Way because the buildings on Coral Way abut single-family residences. So the buildings,
by the way, on Coral Way are twice the size of those buildings, easily twice the size. Under the
current zoning code, a T5 or a five -story building has the exact same height as this eight -story
building, so if it were -- it all depends on how you define it. Under the current zoning code that
we have, a five -story building can go up to 82 feet, if I'm not -- if my math is right, or 81 feet, I'm
sorry; 25 on the ground floor and 14 feet in every additional floor. This proposed building is
what would be a five -story building in essence. The other buildings are actually smaller than
that. That's the tallest building. Andl think -- my understanding was in my briefings with
Francisco that that's what the community preferred. I kind of agreed with your thinking that, you
know, it should all look kind of the same height and the, you know, lower height, but my
understanding was that the community wanted it slightly higher and that's why -- that was my
understanding so that's why it was chosen that way versus, you know, just doing it at six stories.
But regardless, the eight stories is the same height as a five -story building under the current
zoning code. That's what I'm trying to -- so even under the current zoning code, that would be
actually -- I think maybe slightly less or about the same size as a five -story building. So -- and
I'm sorry 'cause I jotted down a bunch of notes as you all were speaking. I am concerned about
the displacement. Obviously, you know, one of the things that's amazing about the Grove is its
historic character. And was asking Francisco what kind of historic preservation has happened
there, and he says that it's a conservation district. So, you know, there is an opportunity to
maintain the historic character of the neighborhood as development does arise. So that's
something that I'm sure this Commission will strive for. You know, there's no way to make
everyone happen on every issue, trust me. You know, I have been here for a little while andl
have dealt with a lot of issues, and it is almost impossible to make everyone happy on every
single issue. I think the applicant has demonstrated -- by the way, we've deferred them. We have
-- you know, we've done a lot of things to them as well to put the pressure on them before, I think,
Commissioner Spence -Jones got here. The first time we heard this before there was a vote that
would have affected their ability to do something here. I said, you know, one of my big issues is
affordable housing and the displacement issue. So I think, you know, obviously that's something
that can be worked on as the Commissioner stated. I know that -- and to the extent that it's a
Jennings issue -- I'll say it as a Jennings issue as well. I know that my father, who is a County
Commissioner of that area, is very in support of these projects along Grand because, like Coral
Way, we want to create next to a residential community, such as the ones that we have in my
district, places where people can shop, places where people can --from -- you know,
pedestrian -wise, from where they -- you know, Starbucks, whatever. So, you know, it's
development that is sorely, sorely needed along that corridor. I know he's dedicated funds from
his district -- a lot of funds actually from his district discretionary funds to make comprehensive
development not just on this project, but comprehensive development throughout Grand Avenue
to, I think, at least 32ndAvenue. By the way, that's how I get here every single day. Every single
day I drive through the Grove. Every single day I come -- 37th Avenue, come down Grand, and I
did see the red things on the -- I see them every day, the red notice -- notification papers on the
lamp post. What I can understand also why it was confusing to some as to, you know, when this
was happening or why wasn't this happening or why -- when was this happening and why was it
happening today. I don't know. I think had -- I felt like at different moments in listening to the
testimony that I had more things to say, and I think a lot of it is when you follow two people who
care so much about the area and really want to see, you know, the area be everything that it can
be, it kind of leaves less to be said, andl don't have any issues with that. I can tell you thatl
love the Grove. I have friends in the Grove. I still have friends in the Grove. You know, I often
go by Ms. Jackson's house to visit with her and joke around with her all the time. PJ, I went to
high school with, who's her son; went to Miami High. I played basketball with him in Kiwanis
and Miami High as well. But, you know, it's, you know, the Bo Leonards of the Grove. You
know, people that love the Grove and have always been in the Grove are going to ensure that the
Grove always remains the way that it is, and obviously, as a Commission, we have to do that.
But I think that is not inconsistent with what we're seeing here today. So, you know, I'm in favor
of that. I'm in favor of maintaining the integrity of the Grove the way that it is, but I'm also in
favor of seeing things that will amplf the Grove, andl think this is one of those things.
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Chair Gort: Thank you. Vice Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman, thank you. I think most of my colleagues said it all, and I
echo a lot of their sentiments. Something that think is important, andl think it was stated also
by my colleagues, is, you know, that we think Peter Gardner is acting in good faith. I think that's
extremely important. You know, the revitalization that's shown here, I think, is very much
needed. I think it speaks for itself. And in all fairness, I'm not going to give a long-winded
speech because I have a feeling that I'm going to need to save it for another topic later on.
Thank you.
Chair Gort: Let me just say a little bit. First time I came in the Grove, I think it was -- and that's
going to give you my age -- was in 1959, 1960 at Miami High, and every time we finished a
football game, we used to come to 32ndAvenue to eat the barbecue. We would buy the
barbeques in there (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I became very active with the Gibson Foundation over
20 years ago. We had a lot of studies coming in front of us, what to do on Grand Avenue. We
had a lot of people coming in front of us telling us what they were going to do. Unfortunate,
nothing has been taking place in 20 something years. Mrs. Gibson is a person that has worked
in that area for a long time trying to create something. Now we're finally going to get the school.
We finally had the school. Now she's going to build some housing in there. But I think it's very
important also to understand that whenever you build a project where you're going to invest so
much money, you also have to make sure that your neighbors are treated equally, 'cause if you
don't take care of the neighbors, at first it's going to be very nice. Andl can talk to you about the
Omni. We all know how -- the experience of the Omni. It was a beautiful project and everybody
used to go there and then after, it went down. I think it's very important -- this is a first reading.
I'm all for it. I think development is important. People don't like changes, especially when they
don't have all the information. So I know we're spending a lot of time sitting here. We're asking
a lot of questions. We answer a lot of those questions. But it's very important to be transferred;
that people understand what's taking place. So this is a first reading. You've heard a lot of the
comments. You got a lot of things you're going to address and you can have it ready for us in the
second reading. I want to thank you all for being here and expressing your opinions. At this
time, it's an ordinance. We have a motion and a second. Would you read it?
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Roll call.
Ms. Thompson: Your roll call on your first reading ordinance. Commissioner Suar --
Mr. Garcia: I'm sorry to interject. May I request that the motion be made for approval with
conditions as recommended by staff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: Seconder, do you agree?
Chair Gort: Accept.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Then wanting to make sure, are we showing this as a modified --?
Mr. Garcia: No, ma'am. As set forth in the documents that the Commission has been given, and
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I think the applicants are in agreement with this as well.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. First reading ordinance, your roll call. Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, with amendments.
Ms. Thompson: Suggestions, recommendations.
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Suggestions -- with recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Okay, thank you. Vice Chair Carollo?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Okay, at this time I'm being requested to go back to the regular agenda,
so we're going to close the -- and most of those items, I think we should defer those items to next
meeting in April [sic].
Commissioner Sarnoff. Let's just do the one item. Everybody agree, let's just do the one item
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. Chair.
Commissioner Sarnoff. Can we take two minutes for a break just to go to the bathroom?
Chair Gort: Yeah, let's take two minutes. Yeah, five.
Ms. Thompson: Chair.
Unidentified Speaker: Five?
Chair Gort: Five, five. Three zero five.
PZ.6 ORDINANCE
08-00166zc1a
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN AND "T4-R" GENERAL URBAN TRANSECT ZONES
WITH A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD2"
(NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE
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FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND SPECIAL
OVERLAY DISTRICT, "SD-12" SPECIAL BUFFER OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND
"NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT
IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED) TO "T5-O" URBAN
CENTER TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND
CHARLES AVENUE NCD2" (NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT)
OVERLAY, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B", ("SD-2" COCONUT GROVE
CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000, AS AMENDED, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3449 HIBISCUS STREET; 3460, 3452, 3440,
AND 3430 THOMAS AVENUE; AND 3454 AND 3456 ELIZABETH STREET,
MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAININGASEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc1a CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc1 a Analysis. pdf
08-00166zc1 a PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc1aApplication & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc1a CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc1a Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics). pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3449 Hibiscus Street; 3460, 3452, 3440 and 3430
Thomas Avenue; and 3454 and 3456 Elizabeth Street (Paradise Island Block -
Rear) [Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village, LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GV Paradise Island, LLC, Christ Episcopal Church, Inc.,
and Christ Protestant Episcopal Church, Inc., Collectively Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File Ds 08-00166zc1, 08-00166zc2, 08-00166zc3, 08-00166zc4
and 08-00166zc5.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T5-O" Urban Center
Transect Zone with a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD2"
(Neighborhood Conservation District) Overlay, as depicted in "Exhibit B", for the
proposed Grove Village Major Use Special Permit.
NOTE(S): On October 28, 2010, the City Commission adopted the companion
Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Commissioner Sarnoff. Move PZ.7.
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Commissioner Spence -Jones: Second.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Isn't it --?
Chair Gort: It's been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): It's PZ (Planning & Zoning) -- I'm sorry.
Chair Gort: -- second --
Ms. Chiaro: PZ.6.
Ms. Thompson: 6.
Chair Gort: 6.
Commissioner Sarnoff. 6, sorry.
Chair Gort: 6, 6.
Commissioner Sarnoff. PZ. 6.
Chair Gort: Second by Commissioner Spence -Jones.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Ms. Thompson: Roll call on your first reading ordinance for PZ. 6. Vice Chair Carollo?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes for PZ. 6.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, with recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
PZ.7 ORDINANCE First Reading
08-00166zc2
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN AND "T5-O" URBAN CENTER TRANSECT ZONES WITH
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A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2"
(NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIALAND "0" OFFICE WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000) TO "T5-0" URBAN CENTER TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE
WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B",
("SD-2" COCONUT GROVE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH AN
"SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND
"NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT
IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3380, 3370 AND 3340
FLORIDAAVENUE; AND 3301, 3355, 3375 AND 3395 GRAND AVENUE,
MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAININGASEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc2 CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc2 Analysis.pdf
08-00166zc2 PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc2 Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc2 CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc2 Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics). pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3380, 3370 and 3340 Florida Avenue; and 3301,
3355, 3375 and 3395 Grand Avenue (Grand Bahama Block) [Commissioner
Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village, LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GV Grand Bahama, LLC, Twyman E. Bentley, Jr., Jarrette
Bay Investments Corp., Grand Bahamas Dev of Village West Corp., Collectively
Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File IDs 08-00166zc1, 08-00166zc1 a, 08-00166zc3, 08-00166zc4
and 08-00166zc5.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T5-0" Urban Center with
a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD-2" Overlay, as depicted in
"Exhibit B", for the proposed Grove Village Major Use Special Permit.
NOTE(S): On October 28, 2010, the City Commission adopted the companion
Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
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Chair Gort: PZ.7.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Move PZ.7.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff, second by Vice Chairman Carollo. Read it.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Roll call. Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, with recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Vice Chair Carollo?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
PZ.8 ORDINANCE First Reading
08-00166zc3
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN AND "T5-0" URBAN CENTER TRANSECT ZONES WITH
A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2"
(NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND "0" OFFICE WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000) TO "T5-0" URBAN CENTER TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE
WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B",
("SD-2" COCONUT GROVE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH AN
"SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND
"NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT
IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY3361 HIBISCUS STREET;
3440, 3422, 3400, 3412 AND 3472 FLORIDAAVENUE; 3415, 3441, 3461,
3485, 3495, 3475, 3401 AND 3471 GRAND AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA;
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MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc3 CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc3 Analysis.pdf
08-00166zc3 PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc3 Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc3 CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc3 Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics). pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3361 Hibiscus Street; 3440, 3422, 3400, 3412 and
3472 Florida Avenue; 3415, 3441, 3461, 3485, 3495, 3475, 3401 and 3471
Grand Avenue (Nassau Block) [Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village, LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GC Nassau, LLC, Stirrup Properties, Inc., George A. &
Dazelle Simpson, Paradise Island Dev. Corp., Nassau Development of Village
West Corp. and Andros Development Corp., Collectively Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File IDs 08-00166zc1, 08-00166zc1 a, 08-00166zc2, 08-00166zc4
and 08-00166zc5.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T5-O" Urban Center
Transect Zone with a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD-2" Overlay,
as depicted in "Exhibit B", for the proposed Grove Village Major Use Special
Permit.
NOTE(S): On October 28, 2010, the City Commission adopted the companion
Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Gort: PZ.8.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Move PZ.8.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff, second by Vice Chairman Carollo. Read it.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Before we do the roll call, just one correction. It was 3485;
you said 3482.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): 3485. Thank you.
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Ms. Thompson: Thank you. Your roll call. Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes.
Chair Gort: With recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Vice Chair Carollo?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
PZ.9 ORDINANCE
08-00166zc4
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN AND "T5-0" URBAN CENTER TRANSECT ZONES WITH
A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2"
(NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND "0" OFFICE WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000) TO "T6-8-0" URBAN CORE TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE
WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B",
("C-1" RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST
ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3363, 3353, 3341, 3335, 3325 AND 3315 THOMAS
AVENUE; AND 3384, 3364, 3354, 3340, 3330, 3324, 3320 AND 3310 GRAND
AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc4 CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc4 Analysis. pdf
08-00166zc4 PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc4 Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc4 CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc4 Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics). pdf
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LOCATION: Approximately 3363, 3353, 3341, 3335, 3325 and 3315 Thomas
Avenue; and 3384, 3364, 3354, 3340, 3330, 3324, 3320 and 3310 Grand
Avenue (Abaco Block) [Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village, LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GV Abaco, LLC, Grand Abaco Development of Village
West Corp., 3354 Grand Inc., High Hopes, Inc., Grand Abaco Development II,
Corp., George and Dazelle Simpson, Sheila Bullard and Stirrup Properties, Inc.,
Collectively Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File IDs 08-00166zc1, 08-00166zc1 a, 08-00166zc2, 08-00166zc3
and 08-00166zc5.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T6-8-O" Urban Core
Transect Zone with a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD-2" Overlay,
as depicted in "Exhibit B", for the proposed Grove Village Major Use Special
Permit.
NOTE(S): On October 28, 2010, the City Commission adopted the companion
Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Gort: PZ.9.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Move PZ.9.
Chair Gort: Been moved by Commissioner Sarnoff --
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Gort: -- second by Commissioner Suarez.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Roll call.
Chair Gort: Thank you.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, with recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Vice Chair Carollo?
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Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
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PZ.10 ORDINANCE First Reading
08-00166zc5
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T3-R" SUB -URBAN TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND
AND CHARLES AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION
DISTRICT) OVERLAY, ("R-1" SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH AN
"SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND
"NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT
IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000) TO "T5-O" URBAN CENTER
TRANSECT ZONE WITH A "VILLAGE WEST ISLAND AND CHARLES
AVENUE NCD-2" (NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT) OVERLAY,
AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT B", ("SD-2" COCONUT GROVE CENTRAL
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH AN "SD-28" VILLAGE WEST ISLAND
SPECIAL OVERLAY DISTRICT AND "NCD-3" COCONUT GROVE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ZONING ORDINANCE NO.
11000, AS DEPICTED IN "EXHIBIT C"), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3558 FLORIDAAVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00166zc5 CC 12-15-11 SR Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00166zc5 Analysis.pdf
08-00166zc5 PZAB Reso.pdf
08-00166zc5 Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
08-00166zc5 CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-00166zc5 Exhibits A-D (Legal & Graphics). pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3558 Florida Avenue (Freeport Block)
[Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lucia A. Dougherty, Esquire, on behalf of Grove Village LLC,
Applicant/Developer, GV Freeport LLC, Contract Purchaser and Edna and
Thomas Dermeritte, Owners
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval with
conditions*.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval with
conditions to City Commission on November 2, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See
companion File IDs 08-00166zc1, 08-00166zc1 a, 08-00166zc2, 08-00166zc3
and 08-00166zc4.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "T5-O" Urban Center
Transect Zone with a "Village West Island and Charles Avenue NCD-2" Overlay,
as depicted in "Exhibit B", for the proposed Grove Village Major Use Special
Permit.
NOTE(S): On July 24, 2008, the City Commission adopted the companion
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Land Use Change application.
Motion by Commissioner Sarnoff, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Gort: PZ.10.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Move PZ.10.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Gort: Moved by Commissioner Sarnoff, second by Vice Chairman Carollo.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call. Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Spence -Jones?
Commissioner Spence -Jones: Yes, with recommendations.
Ms. Thompson: Vice Chair Carollo?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Sarnoff?
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Gort?
Chair Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Okay, at this time I'm being requested to go back to the regular agenda,
so we're going to close the -- and most of those items, I think we should defer those items to next
meeting in April [sic].
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Let's just do the one item. Everybody agree, let's just do the one item
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) 9: 44: 20 --
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. Chair.
Commissioner Sarnoff.. Can we take two minutes for a break just to go to the bathroom?
Chair Gort: Yeah, let's take two minutes. Yeah, five.
Ms. Thompson: Chair.
Unidentified Speaker: Five?
Chair Gort: Five, five. Three zero five.
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PZ.11 ORDINANCE First Reading
10-006671u
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO §163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE ACREAGE DESCRIBED
HEREIN FOR THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 212
NORTHWEST 25TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM "SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL" TO "DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS;
DIRECTING TRANSMITTALS TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-006671u CC 12-15-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
10-00667Iu Analysis, Maps, PZAB Reso & School Concurrency.pdf
10-00667Iu Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
10-006671u CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 212 NW 25th Avenue [Commissioner Frank Carollo
- District 3]
APPLICANT(S): Matthew Plonys, Vice President, on behalf of Boston Investors
Group, Inc.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends denial.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends denial to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See companion File ID
10-00667zc.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "Duplex Residential".
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Chair Gort: (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) to continue the PZ (Planning & Zoning) items --
Commissioner Spence -Jones: So -- second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Continue all PZ items that are left over.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): That's PZ.11, PZ.12, PZ.13, and PZ.14. We're continuing
them to the December 15 meeting. Is that correct?
Chair Gort: That's correct.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Gort: There's a motion and a second. There was a motion by Vice Chairman Carollo and
second by Commissioner Suarez. All in favor, state it by saying "aye."
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The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
PZ.12 ORDINANCE First Reading
10-00667zc
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"R-1" SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (IN ORDINANCE 11000) TO "T3-O"
SUB -URBAN ZONE (IN MIAMI 21), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 212 NORTHWEST 25TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA;
MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00667zc CC 12-15-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
10-00667zcAnalysis, Maps & PZAB Reso.pdf
10-00667zc Application & Supporting Documents. pdf
10-00667zc CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 212 NW 25th Avenue [Commissioner Frank Carollo
- District 3]
APPLICANT(S): Matthew Plonys, Vice President, on behalf of Boston Investors
Group, Inc.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends denial.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends denial to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 7-0. See companion File ID
10-006671u.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "T3-O" Sub -Urban
Zone -Open.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: See PZ.11 for minutes related to PZ.12.
PZ.13 ORDINANCE First Reading
11-006991u
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO §163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE ACREAGE DESCRIBED
HEREIN FOR THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 230
SOUTHWEST 3RD STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM "MAJOR
INSTITUTIONAL, PUBLIC FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES"
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TO "RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING
TRANSMITTALS TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-006991u CC 12-15-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
11-006991u Analysis, Maps, School Concurrency & PZAB Reso.pdf
11-006991u Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
11-006991u CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 230 SW 3rd Street [Commissioner Michelle
Spence -Jones - District 5]
APPLICANT(S): Javier F. Avino, Esquire, on behalf of 230 SW 3rd St LLC,
Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 8-0. See companion File ID
11-00699zc.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "Restricted Commercial'.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: See PZ.11 for minutes related to PZ.13.
PZ.14 ORDINANCE First Reading
11-00699zc
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"Cl" CIVIC INSTITUTIONAL ZONE TO "T6-36B-O" URBAN CORE ZONE, FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 230 SOUTHWEST 3RD
STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00699zc CC 12-15-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
11-00699zcAnalysis, Maps & PZAB Reso.pdf
11-00699zcApplication & Supporting Documents.pdf
11-00699zc CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 230 SW 3rd Street [Commissioner Michelle
Spence -Jones - District 5]
APPLICANT(S): Javier F. Avino, Esquire, on behalf of 230 SW 3rd St LLC,
Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
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PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 8-0. See companion File ID
11-006991u.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "T6-36B-O" Urban Core
Zone.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Spence -Jones, that this
matter be CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Carollo, Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: See PZ.11 for minutes related to PZ.14.
PZ.15 ORDINANCE First Reading
11-007001u
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO §163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE ACREAGE DESCRIBED
HEREIN OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 840
NORTHEAST 78TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM "MEDIUM DENSITY
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO "MEDIUM DENSITY RESTRICTED
COMMERCIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING TRANSMITTALS TO
AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-007001u CC 11-17-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
11-007001u Analysis, Maps, School Concurrency & PZAB Reso.pdf
11-007001u Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
11-007001u CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhibit.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 840 NE 78th Street [Commissioner Marc David
Sarnoff- District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lynn M. Summers, Authorized Representative, on behalf of
Marine Max East, Inc., Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 8-1. See companion File ID
11-00700zc.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "Medium Density Restricted
Commercial'.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item PZ.15 was deferred to the January 26, 2012, City Commission
meeting.
PZ.16 ORDINANCE First Reading
11-00700zc
PZ.17
11-00875zt
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.
13114, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"T5-R" URBAN CENTER ZONE -RESTRICTED TO "T5-O" URBAN CENTER
ZONE -OPEN, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 840
NORTHEAST 78TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00700zc CC 11-17-11 FR Fact Sheet.pdf
11-00700zcAnalysis, Maps & PZAB Reso.pdf
11-00700zcApplication & Supporting Documents.pdf
11-00700zc CC Legislation (Version 2) & Exhi bit. pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 840 NE 78th Street [Commissioner Marc David
Sarnoff- District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Lynn M. Summers, Authorized Representative, on behalf of
Marine Max East, Inc., Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Recommends approval to City
Commission on October 5, 2011 by a vote of 8-1. See companion File ID
11-007001u.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "T5-O" Urban Center
Zone -Open.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
Note for the Record: Item PZ.16 was deferred to the January 26, 2012, City Commission
meeting.
PZAB RESOLUTION
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. 13114, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 4, "STANDARDS AND TABLES"
AND ARTICLE 6, "SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS", TO MODIFY
REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC AND COMMERCIAL STORAGE FACILITIES
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ADJOURNMENT
IN T5, T6, AND DISTRICT (D) ZONES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11-00875zt PZAB 12-14-11 Supporting Docs.pdf
APPLICANT(S): Johnny Martinez, City Manager, on behalf of the City of Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT: Recommends approval.
PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD: Pending recommendation on
December 14, 2011.
PURPOSE: This will modify requirements for public and commercial storage
facilities in T5, T6, and District (D) Zones by providing additional flexibility to
such use and remove distance separation requirements between such facilities.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Sarnoff, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Carollo
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Suarez and Spence -Jones
Francisco Garcia (Director, Planning): And item PZ.17 is a City application. We would like to
continue that item, if it pleases the Commission, to the meeting of December 15.
Chair Gort: Thank you. Motion?
Vice Chair Carollo: So move.
Chair Gort: Moved by Vice Chairman --
Commissioner Sarnoff. Second.
Chair Gort: -- second by Commissioner Sarnoff. All in favor, state it by saying aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Gort: Thank you. PZ.3.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you, sir.
END OF PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
The meeting was adjourned at 10: 42 p.m.
Chair Gort: Thank you very much. Have a good one.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Meeting adjourned.
Ms. Thompson: You're adjourning this meeting?
Vice Chair Carollo: Meeting adjourned.
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Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
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