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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, June 24, 2010
9:00 AM
PLANNING & ZONING
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Marc David Sarnoff, Chairman
Frank Carollo, Vice -Chairman
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner District One
Francis Suarez, Commissioner District Four
Richard P. Dunn II, Commissioner District Five
Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes June 24, 2010
CONTENTS
PR - PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
MV - MAYORAL VETOES
AM - APPROVING MINUTES
CA - CONSENT AGENDA
PA - PERSONAL APPEARANCE
SR - SECOND READING ORDINANCES
FR - FIRST READING ORDINANCES
RE - RESOLUTIONS
DI - DISCUSSION ITEMS
ES - EXECUTIVE SESSION
PART B
PZ - PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM(S)
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
M - MAYOR'S ITEMS
D1 - DISTRICT 1 ITEMS
D2 - DISTRICT 2 ITEMS
D3 - DISTRICT 3 ITEMS
D4 - DISTRICT 4 ITEMS
D5 - DISTRICT 5 ITEMS
Minutes are transcribed verbatim. Periodically, agenda items are revisited during a meeting.
"[Later...]" refers to discussions that were interrupted and later continued.
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8:30 A.M. - PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
PR.1
10-00763
9:00 A.M.
MAYORAL VETOES
PRESENTATION
Honoree Presenter Protocol Item
Marta Gonzalez Commissioner Proclamation
de Cardenas Carollo
10-00763 Protocol.pdf
PRESENTED
Chair Sarnoff We will now make the presentations and proclamations.
Presentations made.
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Vice Chairman Carollo, Commissioner Gort, Chairman Sarnoff, Commissioner Suarez
and Commissioner Dunn II
On the 24th day ofJune 2010, the City Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular
session. The meeting was called to order by Chair Sarnoff at 9:07 a.m., recessed at 12:24 p.m.,
reconvened at 2:34 p.m., recessed for an Executive Session at 2: 36 p.m., reconvened from the
Executive Session at 3: 55 p.m., and adjourned at 6:18 p.m.
Note for the Record: Commissioner Dunn entered the Commission Chambers at 9:28 a.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Maria J. Chiaro, Deputy City Attorney
Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
Pamela L. Latimore, Assistant City Clerk
Chair Sarnoff (INAUDIBLE) to the June 24, 2010 meeting of the City ofMiami Commission in
these historic chambers. The members of the City ofMiami Commission are the Vice Chair,
Frank Carollo, Francis Suarez, Wifredo Gort, the Honorable Reverend Dunn, and myself Marc
Sarnoff, the Chairman. Also on the dais are Carlos A. Migoya, the City Manager, Julie O. Bru,
who will be represented by Maria Chiaro today, the City Attorney, and Priscilla A. Thompson,
the City Clerk. We get to welcome her back from -- for an extended stay. This is your first
regular meeting, I guess. Okay. The meeting will be opened with a prayer by the Clerk, the
pledge of allegiance led by Commissioner Suarez, and if you would, please all rise.
Invocation and pledge of allegiance delivered.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Good morning, to all of you. We ask that at this particular
time, you do what it is that's necessary for you as you offer your meditations to the individual or
the entity that you find who you need to offer it to.
NO MAYORAL VETOES
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Excuse me, Chair, ifI might. Just-- can we --? Well, we
would normally go ahead and handle the mayoral vetoes before we go into the pulling --
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Chair Sarnoff Fair enough.
Ms. Thompson: -- as well as the --
Chair Sarnoff Are there any mayoral vetoes?
Ms. Thompson: No, there are none.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE FOLLOWING MEETING:
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, to APPROVED
PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): As well as the adoption or approval --
Chair Sarnoff Of the minutes.
Ms. Thompson: -- of your minutes.
Chair Sarnoff Do we have the minutes to adopt, from what Commission meeting?
Ms. Thompson: Yes, you do. You have your minutes from the P&Z (Planning & Zoning)
meeting ofMay 27, 2010.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Chair Sarnoff Motion by Commissioner Suarez --
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff -- second by the Vice Chair. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion,
all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
ORDER OF THE DAY
Chair Sarnoff All right. We will now begin the regular meeting. The City Attorney will state
the procedures to be followed during this meeting.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Any person who is a lobbyist must register with the
City Clerk before appearing before the City Commission. A copy of the Code section about
lobbyists is available in the City Clerk's office. The material for each item on the agenda is
available during business hours at the City Clerk's office and online at the City's website.
Formal action may be taken on any item discussed or added to this agenda. All decisions of the
City Commission are final, except that the Mayor may veto certain items within ten calendar
days of Commission action. The Commission may override the veto by a four fifths vote. The
City ofMiami requires that anyone requesting action by the City Commission disclose before the
hearing anything provided to anyone for agreement to support or withhold objection to the
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requested action. Lobbyists, as defined in Section 2-653, appearing before the City Commission
solely in the capacity of a lobbyist and not as the applicant or owner's legal representative are
not required to make such disclosure. Anyone wishing to appeal any decision made by the City
Commission for any matter considered at this meeting may need a verbatim record of the item.
No cell phones, beepers, or other noise -making devices are permitted in Commission chambers.
Please silence those devices now. Any person making offensive remarks or who becomes unruly
in the Commission chambers will be barred from further attending Commission meetings.
Persons may address the City Commission on items where a public hearing is required and on
items where public input is solicited. Persons wishing to speak are required to inform the City
Clerk of the desire to speak, indicating the item number on the agenda. At the time the item is
heard, persons who speak should approach the microphone and wait to be recognized. Any
person with a disability requiring auxiliary aids and services for this meeting may notify the City
Clerk. The lunch recess will begin at the conclusion of deliberation of the item being considered
at noon. The meeting will end either at the conclusion of the deliberation of the agenda item
being considered at 10 p.m., or at the conclusion of the regularly scheduled agenda item,
whichever occurs first. PZ (Planning & Zoning) items will begin at 10 a.m. At this time, the
Chairman, the Administration will announce which items are being either withdrawn, deferred,
or substituted.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
"[Later...]"
Chair Sarnoff All right. Does the Administration wish to announce any items to withdraw,
defer, substitute, or continue?
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Yes, sir. We'd like to defer SR.2 to July 8, and PZ.4 to July
22.
Chair Sarnoff July 22?
Mr. Migoya: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ (Planning & Zoning)?
Mr. Migoya: 4.
Commissioner Gort: 4.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. I was going to do my deferral when the PZ items come, but --
Mr. Migoya: Can we do the --?
Chair Sarnoff Let's -- if we -- if you know them now, let's do them now so we don't hold people
here.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. The only thing I ask for PZ.5 and 6, I'm asking for a deferral until
the September meeting. However, I want to make sure that -- listen, and that particular issue is
an issue about a school. The truth of the matter is, I don't think anyone's against a school being
there. I think the issue is the size. So I'm hoping that both parties, you know, begin speaking if
they haven't so already, and see if you know, there could be a compromise worked out. But I
would move to defer --
Migoya: September 9.
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Vice Chair Carollo: -- PZ.5 and PZ. 6 for September --
Mr. Migoya: Ninth.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- 9.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Twenty-third -- to the PZ meeting?
Vice Chair Carollo: The PZ meeting in September.
Ms. Thompson: That's September 23.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's why --
Mr. Migoya: Oh, okay.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you for that, Madam Clerk.
Chair Sarnoff I believe FR.3 is going to be withdrawn. I'm just trying to see if we could take
this as an omnibus motion, and I don't know that we can. Anybody else have anything else they
wish to change, defer, continue? All right. Let's see if we could do this, because we have SR.2,
PZ -- SR.2, is there a motion to move SR.2 to the --
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Ms. Thompson: Chair, if you'd like, you could do it all at once.
Chair Sarnoff It can be done?
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: Do you want to review the --
Chair Sarnoff The transcript?
Ms. Thompson: -- items and the dates?
Chair Sarnoff It's clear enough --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah.
Chair Sarnoff -- for you.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: No. I'd like to review so I make sure.
Chair Sarnoff Understood. Is there a motion?
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Ms. Thompson: No. I'm sorry, Chair. May I review to make sure we have these --?
Chair Sarnoff Absolutely.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. SR.2 is 7/8/10; PZ.4, 7/22/10; PZ.5 and PZ.6, 9/23/10, and FR.3 is being
withdrawn.
Chair Sarnoff Correct.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Vice Chair Carollo: I make a motion to defer the items mentioned by our Madam City Clerk.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Was that sufficient?
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion --
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Ms. Thompson: It's just a motion to accept those actions that you stated on the record, and then
you can just go ahead -- get your second and vote.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion by the Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Gort.
Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CA.1 RESOLUTION
10-00715
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Information ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A
Technology GRANT, IN THE AMOUNT OF $132,950, FROM MIAMI-DADE BROADBAND
COALITION, TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR
WORKING -AGED AND ELDER ADULTS IN A PILOT PROGRAM FOR WHAT
WILL BECOME A COMPREHENSIVE COUNTY -WIDE DIGITAL INCLUSION
INITIATIVE (ELEVATE MIAMI); FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO
IMPLEMENT THE ACCEPTANCE OF SAID GRANT AWARD.
10-00715 Legislation.pdf
10-00715 Exhibit.pdf
10-00715 Summary Form.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0265
CA.2 RESOLUTION
10-00716
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING THE BID
Purchasing RECEIVED APRIL 14, 2010, PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BID NO.
176148, FROM ORBIS CORPORATION, THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF RECYCLING
CONTAINERS, ON AN AS -NEEDED CONTRACTUAL BASIS, FOR AN INITIAL
CONTRACT PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW
FOR THREE (3) ADDITIONAL ONE (1) YEAR PERIODS; ALLOCATING
FUNDS FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES OF FUNDS FROM THE USER
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDS AND BUDGETARY APPROVAL AT THE TIME OF NEED.
10-00716 Legislation.pdf
10-00716 Summary Form.pdf
10-00716 Award Recommendation.pdf
10-00716 Tabulation of Bids.pdf
10-00716 Corporation.pdf
10-00716 IFB.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0266
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CA.3 RESOLUTION
10-00717
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Clerk ATTACHMENT(S),OFFICIALLY ACCEPTING THE ATTACHED CITY CLERK'S
CERTIFICATION OF THE MIMO BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE'S
PETITION PROCESS FOR CREATION OF THE MIMO BUSINESS
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
10-00717 Legislation.pdf
10-00717 Exhibit.pdf
10-00717 Cover Memo.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
CA.4
10-00745
Office of Grants
Administration
R-10-0267
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
GROVE TREE -MAN TRUST TO PERFORM TREE -TRIMMING ACTIVITIES
ON TREES LOCATED IN CITY OF MIAMI RIGHTS -OF -WAY AND IN CITY
PARKS USING RESOURCES PROVIDED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES, DIVISION
OF FORESTRY; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
10-00745 Legislation.pdf
10-00745 Summary Form.pdf
10-00745 Bid.pdf
This Matter was ADOPTED on the Consent Agenda.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0268
Adopted the Consent Agenda
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, including all the
preceding items marked as having been adopted on the Consent Agenda. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Chair Sarnoff Let's take up, gentlemen, the consent agenda. Does anybody wish to remove
anything from the consent agenda? All right, then, do we have a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: Move.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by Commissioner Suarez.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Second by the Vice Chair. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion,
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all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE
PA.1 PRESENTATION
10-00734
THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN
("MCSW'), THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR WOMEN AND
THE JULIA TUTTLE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COMMISSION REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE JULIA TUTTLE
STATUE PROJECT.
10-00734 Letter.pdf
10-00734-Submittal-Allyson Warren.pdf
PRESENTED
Chair Sarnoff We have a personal appearance. City ofMiami Commission on the Status of
Women, Julia Tuttle Oversight Committee to address the City Commission. Alice [sic] Warren,
you're recognized for the record.
Allyson Warren: Good morning, everybody. My name is Allyson Warren. I chair the City's
Commission on the Status of Women. I live at 650 Northeast 82nd Terrace, in Miami. We're
here today after a great deal of work on a project that was commenced in 1996, which is to erect
a statue ofJulia Tuttle, the founder, basically, of the City ofMiami, the only woman to have
founded a major city in the United States. It's taken us all this time. We raised all of the money
in advance because Mr. Spring told us that the City has an anti -deficiency ordinance so all the
money was in a special revenue fund before we were able to get a contract signed with the artist.
You have a picture in front of you of what she's going to look like -- what she looks like. It's a
10 foot bronze. She's going to be installed in Bayfront Park in time for the City's 114th birthday,
July 28. We're really excited. This has been a monumental task for everybody involved, from the
fundraising to the exfraordinary help that we have gotten from the City Commission, the County
Commission, the City Administration, Larry Spring, Basil Binns, Orlando Toledo, who's hiding
in the back, but helped us get our concrete permit done in an amazingly quick time. I was
hoping our contractor, Hugh Ryan, would be here this morning, but I'm hoping he's atMRC
(Miami Riverside Center) getting his finalized permit. Our plan is -- Are you hiding? No, he's
not there. Most of you know Mr. Ryan. He's been with us for quite a while. I sat with him on
Code Enforcement. He's fabulous. He has been working double overtime frying to get the
permits through. And I understand from Mr. Toledo that that's within a whisper. The plan is to
have the concrete in the ground the end of the first week ofJuly, which I'm hoping is next week.
The statue will be -- the concrete has to cure for a week. The statue will then be put in a week
before the birthday so that it can settle and be sure that everything is perfect. The artist came
from a national call to artists, which I'm going to pass around a picture of what was in the
Herald back in April so that you can see. This was a huge project. And we're very, very excited.
Miami Monthly and the Herald covered this for us, and we're very grateful for that. We had a
list of donors that was absolutely wonderful, including Commissioner Sarnoff. It took a while,
but the City Finance office finally got that part right. We have had an exfraordinary amount of
assistance from everybody, from the Mayor on down. The DDA (Downtown Development
Authority) is helping us, is basically putting on the major portion of the program, which will be
on the morning ofJuly 28. I hope you all will be there and mark your calendars accordingly.
The artists will be on site. Arva Parks, who is out of town right now, will say a few words. We
could not have done this without her. She has gone out to California on her own dime several
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10-00631
Honorable Mayor
Tomas Regalado
times to meet with the artist and be sure that the statue is factually correct and historically
correct because, as you can see, the history of the founding of the City is carved in relief on her
skirt. I want to also thank Mr. Carollo for helping us at the Park Trust. They were very gracious
in allowing us in there for at least several meetings, and they were wonderful in helping us get
the perfect location for the statue. Behind me is Laura Morilla, who is the executive director of
the County Commission for Women, and Diana Shinaberry, who is on her board, which is the
County Commission for Women. Take a bow.
Laura Morilla: Good morning, Commissioners.
Chair Sarnoff Good morning.
Ms. Morilla: I'm the staff person for the Miami -Dade County Commission for Women. Diana
Shinaberry is one of our board members. We've been working with the City ofMiami
Commission on the Status of Women on this project for the last five years. It's been wonderful.
It's been a labor of love, and we are very pleased that it's finally becoming a reality, and we
invite you to join us Wednesday, July 28, at 10 a.m., at Bayfront Park for the unveiling of the
Julia Tuttle statue on the day of the -- ofMiami's birthday. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Ms. Warren: The Mayor reminded me to thank the MSEA (Miami Sports and Exhibition
Authority) Board who helped put us over the top of the funding that we had to have in the bank
before the artist could go forward. So thank you to anybody and their grandchildren that I have
failed to mention. We have had help from everybody, and it's really gratifying because this is
such a good project. I'm going to hold it up so the camera guy can put this out there. I don't
know what your camera angle is. But hopefully, this will go out over the air. Each of you has a
copy of this somewhere. That's not bad. Okay. I think you're going to really enjoy the statue.
She's just gorgeous. Arva Parks made a frip up north recently -- I'll be out of your hair in a
second -- because she, as you know, does historical work all over the country, and attended a
garage sale and -- of another person who was historically important down here, and to and
behold, there was a picture of one of this person's family members and Julia Tuttle. And it's a
picture that I believe, and she believes, nobody has ever seen before. It was one of the only
full-length pictures of Julia Tuttle, and thank God, it looks exactly like the statue. So we're
happy that will be on display, as well. And again, thank you to everybody for your help in this.
It has really been wonderful. It's been a great experience. A little hectic, but really terrific.
Thank you all.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you very much, Allyson.
END OF PERSONAL APPEARANCE
ORDINANCES - SECOND READINGS
ORDINANCE
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, AMENDING CHAPTER
2, ARTICLE XI, OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "ADMINISTRATION/BOARDS,COMMITTEES,
COMMISSIONS", MORE PARTICULARLY BY CREATING A NEW DIVISION 9
ENTITLED "ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON ELEVATE MIAMI;" CONTAINING
SECTIONS ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE; SETTING FORTH THE
TERMS OF THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE, QUORUM, AND
DUTIES; ASSIGNING STAFF AND LIAISON; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
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CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00631 Legislation SR.pdf
10-00631 Cover Memo SR.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
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Chair Sarnoff All right. Let's move on to the ordinances. We're on page 9 of the agenda, SR.1.
I -- Mr. Mayor, this is your issue with regard to Advisory Committee on Elevate Miami.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Right.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Mayor Regalado: Right. We're thinking that you still have to do the consent agenda, right?
Vice Chair Carollo: No.
Commissioner Gort: We did.
Mayor Regalado: Oh, you did?
Chair Sarnoff We did that, yeah.
Mayor Regalado: Oh, I'm sorry. Wasn't paying attention. I'm sorry. SR.1 is the second
reading, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, about Elevate Miami. It's important because on this
agenda, you also will see a grant that is coming to Elevate Miami for the seniors. And there are
several buildings that already are requesting the help from Elevate Miami to bring computers to
senior centers and senior buildings. We met with Alex (UNINTELLIGIBLE), the director of
Miami -Dade County HUD (Department of Housing and Urban Development), and he is willing
to work with every president association in every building that are requesting this. As of today,
we have one in Vice Chairman disfrict, Robert King High, that they want to do this, and in
Commissioner Suarez, in the Smathers, so we have the support of HUD in doing this. And so,
I'm presenting for second reading the Elevate Miami ordinance.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record, the Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I just want to point out, obviously, it's a good thing to do, you
know, the HUD projects and buildings. But also, I know there's going to be in different areas
within the City ofMiami. For instance, you know, some of the projects that are under way in my
disfrict that will have computers and so forth. You know, I want to make sure that it's not just for
HUD and so forth, that it gets extended to --
Mayor Regalado: Oh, no.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the various locations.
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SR.2
10-00692
Honorable Mayor
Tomas Regalado
Mayor Regalado: No. But the other item, I mention it because it's a grant that we're getting --
Vice Chair Carollo: Understood.
Mayor Regalado: -- for elderly, which is citywide.
Vice Chair Carollo: Understood.
Mayor Regalado: Anybody can participate. But having the support of HUD, it will diminish the
costs because we just go there with the computers. They have the wiring and their secure space
and everything. So it's something that we can do right away.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Chair Sarnoff We have a second by Commissioner Dunn. Any further discussion, gentlemen?
Hearing no -- Oh, let me open a public hearing. I apologize. Anyone from the public wishing to
be heard on SR.1, which is the Advisory Committee on Elevate Miami, please step up to the
podium. Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to the Commission. We have a motion and we
have a second. Madam City Attorney, it is an ordinance.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading, 5-0.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. All right, SR. 2 has been pulled -- I'm sorry,
has been continued for the next Commission meeting.
ORDINANCE
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
54 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED (THE
"CODE"), ENTITLED "STREETS AND SIDEWALKS," BY AMENDING
SECTION 54-9 OF THE CODE ENTITLED "PLACING SIGNS ON ANY
PORTION OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, STREET OR SIDEWALK SURFACE"
TO ALLOW FOR IDENTIFICATION OF DONORS ON TRASH CONTAINERS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MIAMI; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00692 Legislation SR.pdf
10-00692 Pictures FR/SR.pdf
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
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SR.3
10-00694
Note for the Record: Item SR.2 was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently
scheduled for July 8, 2010.
Note for the Record: Please refer to "Order of the Day" for minutes referencing item SR.2.
ORDINANCE
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
35 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED (THE
"CODE"), ENTITLED "MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC/COCONUT GROVE
BUSINESS DISTRICT AND DESIGN DISTRICTS PARKING IMPROVEMENT
TRUST FUNDS," BY CREATING A NEW SECTION 35-220 ENTITLED
"REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING AND PAYMENT IN LIEU OF
REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING"; AMENDING SECTION 35-221
ENTITLED "COCONUT GROVE PARKING IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
ESTABLISHED"; CREATING SECTION 35-222 ENTITLED "REVOCATION OF
CERTIFICATE OF USE FOR NON-PAYMENT OF PARKING WAIVERS";
AMENDING SECTION 35-224 ENTITLED "SCHEDULE OF FEES AND
CHARGES FOR COCONUT GROVE PARKING TRUST FUND"; TO CLARIFY
THE OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDE FOR
ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS FOR PAYMENT OBLIGATIONS CONTAINED
THEREIN; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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SPONSOR:CHAIRMAN SARNOFF
Motion by Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
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Motion by Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
RECONSIDERED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Chair Sarnoff SR.3.
Commissioner Gort: Parking.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. Mr. Vice Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: You're recognized, Mr. Chairman.
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Chair Sarnoff This is an ordinance really that addresses parking waiver trust funds. This will
affect two areas of the City, I understand, mainly Coconut Grove, but it equally would affect, my
understanding is, in the Design District. This is a second reading ordinance for parking
waivers. I do need to read into the record --
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair. I can hardly hear you. Is your mike on?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah, sorry.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff I just need to get a little closer.
Commissioner Gort: They want us to yell.
Chair Sarnoff I usually do yell. I apol -- I'm presenting now. I'm not yelling. I do need to read
into the record something I have given to each Commissioner, which says, notwithstanding any
regulation in the Zoning Ordinance that may relax the parking requirements used to calculate
the waivers granted herein, no parking requirement shall be diminished below that which was
provided prior to the adoption ofMiami 21, prior to October 22, 2009, within the areas of the
City for which a parking trust has been established and is in effect pursuant to this Chapter. The
ordinance will become effective immediately.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is that a motion?
Chair Sarnoff That is my motion.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Amended -- as amended.
Chair Sarnoff As amended, sir, yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Second, as amended.
Vice Chair Carollo: I have a motion by Chairman Sarnoff. I have a second by Commissioner
Suarez. Any discussion? I'm going to open up a public hearing. Anyone from the public
wishing to speak on this item? Is there anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item?
Public hearing is now closed, back to the Commission. Any discussion? Madam City Attorney,
it is an ordinance.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Ms. Thompson: Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted, as modified, 5-0.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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SR.4
09-00094
District 5 -
Commissioner
Richard Dunn H
ORDINANCE
Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
11.5, ARTICLE II OF THE CODE, OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "CIVILIAN COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION AND
REVIEW/THE CITY OF MIAMI CIVILIAN INVESTIGATIVE PANEL," MORE
PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTION 11.5-28, ENTITLED
"MEMBERSHIP; NOMINATION OF MEMBERS; TERMS OF OFFICE AND
VACANCIES; APPOINTMENT OF THE CIP NOMINATING COMMITTEE;" TO
AMEND THE MEMBERSHIP, APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND TERMS OF
OFFICE; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Noes: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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Chair Sarnoff SR.4. I think that's Commissioner Dunn. This is the CIP (Civilian Investigative
Panel) issue.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. I'd like to move on it, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion for SR.4. Do we have a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Second by Commissioner Gort. This is a public hearing. Anybody wishing to be
heard on SR.4, which is the amendment to the Civilian Investigative Panel; manner in which it's
established the nomination of members, vacancies, appointment of CIP nominating committee?
Anybody wishing to be heard on SR.4? You're recognized for the record, Mr. May [sic].
Charles Mays: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Chair, distinguished members of the Commission. It is
with great respect for Commissioner Dunn --
Chair Sarnoff You just need to state your name and address for --
Mr. Mays: I'm sorry. Charles Mays, CIP independent counsel. It is with great respect for
Commissioner Dunn that the CIP opposes the adoption of this ordinance. As we indicated to you
in our last presentation, of course we embrace diversity. We have worked very diligently to try
to bring in more members, et cetera, that totally reflective of the various districts, et cetera. The
method and manner, however, in which we're trying to achieve this, I think, presents more
problems than it does from the standpoint of solutions. We urge you to therefore vote against
this particular ordinance.
Chair Sarnoff All right, Mr. Mays.
Mr. Mays: Thank you.
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Chair Sarnoff Thank you very much for your presentation.
Mr. Mays: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Anybody else from the general public wishing to be heard on SR.4? Hearing
none, seeing none, it comes back to this Commission. Any discussion, gentlemen?
Commissioner Dunn: No.
Chair Sarnoff No? Madam City Attorney, it is an ordinance.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call. Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Vice Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Gort?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Commissioner Dunn?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Chair Sarnoff?
Chair Sarnoff My vote is no. I'll state for the same reasons that put on before. I would have
argued to you guys before, but think you heard it all before and instead of belaboring it -- I
happen to agree with Mr. Mays. I happen to agree with the CIP on this. I don't think that you
can designate diversity. I think it's an attitude that they have. Thank you.
Ms. Thompson: So your vote is no.
Chair Sarnoff That is correct.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance is adopted, 4-1.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
ORDINANCES - FIRST READING
FR.1 ORDINANCE First Reading
10-00727
Office of the City AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
Attorney ORDINANCE NO. 13168, ADOPTED MAY 13, 2010, CHANGING THE TIME
TO QUALIFY FOR THE NOVEMBER 2, 2010 MUNICIPAL ELECTION FROM
SEPTEMBER 3, 2010 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 18, 2010, AT 6 P.M. TO
AUGUST 6, 2010 THROUGH AUGUST 21, 2010, AT 6 P.M.; DIRECTING THE
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CITY CLERK TO GIVE NOTICE OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE
AND TO TRANSMIT A CERTIFIED COPY TO THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY
SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE,
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
FR.2
10-00739
Honorable Mayor
Tomas Regalado
Chair Sarnoff All right, FR.1. FR.1, Office of the City Attorney.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): FR.1 is an ordinance that changes the date for
qualifying for the City ofMiami elections to be held for the two districts in November. This
change is necessary because the Supervisor of Elections for Miami -Dade County, who is
preparing the ballots to be distributed to citizens ofMiami for these elections, needs additional
time to prepare the ballots in writing and distribute them. So the dates for qualifying,
notwithstanding the fact that our dates for qualifying in our elections are in our Charter, may be
changed by ordinance, and this ordinance makes that change. It changes the dates and moves
up by a few days the period for which the qualification takes place in the two districts for the
election.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion by Commissioner Gort.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff We have a second by the Vice Chair. Let me open it up to a public hearing.
Anybody wishing to be heard on FR.1, which changes our municipal election time for
qualification? Anybody wishing to be heard on FR.1? Hearing none, seeing none, the public
hearing is closed; coming back to this Commission. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no
discussion, it is an ordinance, Madam City Attorney.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 5-0.
ORDINANCE
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER 12 OF
THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, CURRENTLY
ENTITLED "COIN -OPERATED MACHINES AND ESTABLISHMENTS," BY
AMENDING THE TITLE TO "AMUSEMENT MACHINES AND
ESTABLISHMENTS," CLARIFYING EXISTING LANGUAGE, ADDING
DEFINITIONS, CREATING A LICENSING STRUCTURE AND REGULATORY
SCHEME, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, AND PROHIBITING
UNAUTHORIZED AMUSEMENT MACHINES; AMENDING CHAPTER
31/ARTICLE II OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED "LOCAL BUSINESS TAX AND
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS REGULATIONS/LOCAL BUSINESS TAX
(BTR)," MORE PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTION 31-50, ENTITLED
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Votes:
"SCHEDULE OF ESTABLISHED BTRS," BY DELETING AN ESTABLISHED
BTR; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
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Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Chair Sarnoff All right, FR.2. Mr. Mayor, you're recognized for the record.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission.
FR.2 is an ordinance on first reading. I would tell you that this ordinance, the final product, is
the result of several month [sic] working with the Law Department, with the Finance
Department, and the Administration to have this ordinance in place. The reason that we did a
new approved moratorium on the sale of stickers or license for coin -operated machines -- and
this moratorium will be in place until September -- is precisely because we went -- we were
working on this ordinance and it needed a lot of research. We met with the chief of Police. We
met with the Finance Department; of course, the Law Department was there. We also met with
the representative ofMagic City Casino that will be opposing this ordinance. However, I think
that we need to hear from the Finance Department because what this ordinance does is rectify a
process that has been wrong for the last years. We -- if we pass this ordinance, we will know
exactly where each machine is; now, we don't. In the past, there were some machines that were
seized, but at the end, the courts ruled one way or another. And there's still hundreds of
machines in the City ofMiami. IfI may, I would like Noel Chavez from the Finance Department
to explain to you what was the process before and how we weren't able to control or regulate
those machines. And then, from Diana, to understand the fiscal impact that the old process and
the new process, if this ordinance is approved, will have. So I will ask Noel -- also, we have Mr.
Barnaby, who has worked for several month [sic] on the ordinance in behalf of the City
Attorney, and he has done extensive research because this has to do, everything, with state
statutes, and the Law Department came, I believe, with the right wording for this ordinance. But
ifI may, I will present the Finance Department representative so he could explain what we were
doing before forever and what would this change means [sic] in terms of regulations. And of
course, then Diana can tell us in terms of revenue to the City.
Noel Chavez: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good morning, Commissioners. Noel Chavez, business
tax receipt supervisor, Finance Department. In the past, we had a pricing scheme that was the
one taken advantage by the operators of these machines more often, which involved they would
pay a one-time fee of $460, and they could have as many machines as they wished in the City.
When we began the authorization of again, these amusement machines which are very popular
in the City, in a three-week period, we issued approximately a thousand stickers that essentially
is a thousand machines. We were seeing a run-up and the fiscal impact was approximately
$4, 000 to the City. Now that would consume a lot of enforcement activity and logistics from our
parts -- from our part, excuse me. This new pricing scheme will have a fiscal impact around
three-quarters of a million dollars a year in the City. We've made provision for keeping frack of
where -- who has exactly what sticker, what machine, where they're supposed to have it; if they
change locations, they are supposed to notify us. We've made provision for -- to have personnel
that will monitor the issuance and the locales and work directly with these operators, and there's
much more fiscal gain and control for the City. And if three weeks we gave out a thousand
stickers, I can imagine even three quarters of a million dollars is a conservative figure.
Questions?
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort, you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: What gives the right to the individual to get the license? I mean, is there a
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City ordinance? It's the state ordinance?
Mr. Chavez: Yes. The State doesn't much interfere with that, except to say what type of
machines cannot be had.
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute. All of a sudden people come up and ask for a thousand
stickers. Why was that changed?
Mr. Chavez: That changed because the Law Department did some research and apparently
some machines that were in the past, the State considered -- again, for -- the Law maybe better
answer this -- but they would not allow certain machines, but certain machines are just defined
as amusement machines, so we cannot negate them having those machines.
Commissioner Gort: In other words, the City does not have the --
Mayor Regalado: Excuse me.
Commissioner Gort: -- power --
Mayor Regalado: No. Excuse me. I think that what Commissioner is trying to determine, ifI go
there and go to your office with a check, I can get a license, but who am I? You need to know
who am I to get a license. And ifI ask for 1,000 stickers, then I get 1,000 stickers with the
process that we had [sic] in place now.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. My question is, what gives the right to a person to come to you or to
come to our department and ask --
Mayor Regalado: That's what I --
Commissioner Gort: -- for a thousand? What gives them the right, an ordinance from the City
ofMiami? It's --
Mr. Chavez: Yes, an ordinance to run -- he's running a business, just like they would have -- just
like Coca-Cola has a thousand machines in the City, and they want stickers for all those
machines. Now, in this case, we're going to know where they're going to have them, and of
course, if they're in violation of any fire ordinance --
Commissioner Gort: So in the past, you had one operator who come to you and ask you for "X"
amount of stickers, and he would sell it to whoever he wants. My question is what gives the right
to that one operator to come and request those licenses?
Mr. Chavez: The right is in legal -- I would defer to the Law Department for that.
Barnaby Min (Assistant City Attorney): Commissioner, it's a business. And if you look at page
15 of the legislation, what is currently in the Code, in Chapter 31, allows one person to come in,
pay $458, and have as many unlimited machines as they want.
Commissioner Gort: That's part of our Code?
Mr. Min: I'm sorry?
Commissioner Gort: It's part of our Code.
Mr. Min: Yes.
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Commissioner Gort: I mean, we're the one that allow him to do that.
Mr. Min: That is currently what is in our Code.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized, Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I think the question that the Commissioner was trying to ask, from what I
could tell -- I don't want to put words in the Commissioner's mouth, but you said at some point
that we, the City, reauthorized the issuance of permits to these machines, that we reauthorized
them; that there was a point at which we did not allow these kinds of machine operators to
obtain a permit for these kinds of machines. Is that correct?
Mr. Chavez: Always.
Commissioner Suarez: That's not right?
Mr. Chavez: It was just -- they've always had the right to apply. It was just one particular type
of machine, which was in legal doubt.
Commissioner Suarez: But what spurred this -- I think what the Commissioner is asking is what
spurred this massive purchasing of these licenses?
Mr. Chavez: Okay. These types of -- there are certain types of machines, which, according to
the legal research now, are just considered amusement machines.
Commissioner Suarez: So you're saying that what spurred the development of people coming in
and purchasing these licenses is that the City started to allow them to purchase those licenses for
a specific kind of machine?
Mr. Chavez: Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: What kind of machine is that?
Mr. Chavez: That all -- well, actually, that all machines are considered amusement machines.
All those --
Commissioner Suarez: What do you mean all machines? Certainly, not all machines are
considered amusement.
Mr. Chavez: All machines that -- there were certain kinds of machines in the past -- and the Law
Department would be better to answer that -- that were not considered amusement.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Chavez: They were considered gaming or (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Now they are considered
amusement machines.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. That's -- I think that's what the Commissioner was getting at. At
what point did the machine that is creating this issue -- at what point was there a change in
policy or a change in law that changed that specific machine from a gaming machine to a
amusement machine, as you call it?
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Mr. Min: IfI may? There was --
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Min: -- really no change in law or anything. What occurred is we were looking into this a
couple months ago and this -- amusement machines have always been allowed by state law, by
City ordinance. They've always been allowed. What has been interpreted in the past is we have
broadly interpreted these machines to be gambling machines, and pursuant to state statute,
gambling machines are not allowed. However, after a further analysis, we determined just
because it may be used for gambling purposes does not mean it's illegal. If it's used for
gambling purposes, it's illegal. If it's not used for gambling purposes, it is not illegal. So the
Law Department simply clarified that if it's an -- all amusement machines are, in fact, legal and
can be operated in the City. It's the intent of using it for a gambling purpose which is prohibited.
Chair Sarnoff Can you drill down a little further? 'Cause he's a lawyer, he's going to get it.
Tell him what a gambling machine is, a game of chance or --
Mr. Min: A gambling machine is a game of chance. And just to be clear, games of chance are,
in fact, allowed. But if there is the opportunity of winning something in exchange, it's a game of
chance where you can actually win something in exchange as defined by the state statute, that is
what's illegal and prohibited.
Commissioner Suarez: Can I ask you a question? Mr. Chairman, may I ask him a question?
Chair Sarnoff I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Commissioner Suarez: No, no, no, no.
Chair Sarnoff I thought your question could have been more directly answered.
Commissioner Suarez: My question is, did you do some sort of a study to determine whether or
not these games in question are being, in essence, used as games of chance instead of games of
skill? In other words, did you send undercover police officers, for example, to these
establishments and see if those police officers could, in effect, receive a cash prize for being able
to accumulate points or whatever? Because --
Mr. Min: The Law --
Commissioner Suarez: -- I've been told that these operators of these establishments are actually
giving out cash prizes to these -- to whoever the players are, "the regulars" that come in there
and are constantly using those machines.
Mr. Min: The Law Department did not do any type of study like that. The issue that was
presented to the Law Department is, are these amusement machines legal. And our analysis
was, amusement machines that are not used for gambling purposes are, in fact, legal. The
proposed ordinance that -- and amendments to the current Chapter 12, which is being proposed,
I believe addresses that concern by saying there cannot -- they cannot be used for gambling
purposes. You cannot win anything in exchange. You can't even win free replays. Every time
you put in a quarter, you play a game. That's it. You don't win anything in exchange. And I
believe that's how you address the concerns that these machines are being used for gambling
purposes.
Commissioner Suarez: But I think you said that part of the definition of whether the machine is a
gambling machine is whether the operator intends on providing a benefit. Isn't that correct?
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Mr. Min: It's two prongs.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Min: Whether it's a game of chance --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Min: -- and whether the operator can win something back.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Min: Whether it's money, whether it's a credit, whether it's a prize, whatever it is.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Chavez: In addition, Commissioner, I'm sorry --
Vice Chair Carollo: Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. Under 75 cents.
Mr. Min: I'm sorry?
Vice Chair Carollo: According to --
Mr. Min: Under 75 cents --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Min: -- because we didn't want to eliminate Skee-Ball.
Commissioner Suarez: My issue is that if currently they're being used in that fashion, and if
there's no study that's been done by the City to determine whether they're in fact being used as
gambling machines or amusement machines, then you're asking us to, in essence, condone --
because we have no way of knowing whether in fact these machines are being used as
amusement machines or gambling machines other than the anecdotal information that I have
which, to be completely honest with you, indicates to me that they're being used as gambling
machines and not as amusement machines. So -- I mean, I don't know what kind of evidence,
what kind of study -- and that's the issue that I have. There's no evidence, there's no study that's
been done that indicates how these machines are in fact being utilized, and I would -- based on
what I've been told, I would say that the overwhelming amount of anecdotal evidence that I have
indicates to me that they're being used as gambling machines and not as amusement machines.
Mr. Chavez: And through the Chair, Commissioner, these operators sign an affidavit before
they're given anything that these machines have to -- cannot be used for any
(UNINTELLIGIBLE), any gaming, any of the sort. So indirectly, they are also policing wherever
they put these machines at.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I mean, we all have a contract not to run red lights and, you
know, not to run a stop sign, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everybody does that. And I
think what we're doing here is we're condoning these machines under the guise of increasing
revenue, which, you know, I understand the Mayor's position. I mean, it's -- you know, he's
trying to tackle some of the very difficult issues with the budget. But, you know, this is just not
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something that, you know -- Yes.
Mayor Regalado: But ifI may, Commissioner, 90 percent of the ordinance is to regulate the
machines because now we don't know where the machines are. Actually, I think the Manager
went and look at a number of the machine and called the Finance Department, and he can --
they couldn't say where that machine was because it was one of the hundreds of the stickers that
are running around. If we do this ordinance, then we will know where each machine, each
stickers belongs to, what address, and who pulled that permit. If an inspector or a police officer
goes and see that the machine has been altered, because it has to be altered to use that machine
for gambling purposes, then there will be a civil fine of $500 to the person that operate the
business. And there's also a caveat that could be included that if a business is operating a
gambling machine, then the City has the right to pull the occupational license, which is an
extreme measure, but it's part of the regulation. So the other thing is that now we do not have
the manpower to monitor those machines. They're everywhere. But if we do this ordinance, then
Finance will have the possibility of having their inspector checking each of the places and also
checking occupational license, which many in the City don't have. We have -- I mean, we have a
list officially of 13--14,311 occupational license for business [sic] in the City ofMiami. I
imagine that there are more that don't have occupational license. I've seen one, at least. I've
seen one business operator with no license at all. And we do not have the manpower to go
door -by -door. But I just think that we have several options. We have the options of keeping the
moratorium, not selling any license; keeping the process as it is, selling $480 and you get all the
stickers; or changing the Code so we can regulate more, and we could use the revenue to check
on the machines. Actually, we're not condoning or inciting this kind of practice because it's
already there. I mean, in the past, there were a group of police officers that every night went to
cafeterias and they took down some of the machines. Some of the people went to court. City, I
believe, won two cases. City lost, as you know, several cases. Many cases were dismissed. So
many, many cases were dismissed because of the arrests that were made that were not good
arrests and all that. So this is the intent to regulate. And, you know, it's a healthy debate that we
have here because it is not an intent of the Administration to create a giant Las Vegas in Miami.
And I do understand what you are going to hear from Magic City Casino. You know, they have a
casino, but it's different. You get money and you get -- and the machines are not supposed to
give you back. It's illegal. It's in the ordinance. It's in the affidavit. And anybody who does that
will be fined and the machine will be confiscated. So I just wanted to state that.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Suarez, would you yield to Commissioner Gort? Commissioner
Gort --
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff -- you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: My question is then, are we issuing permit because of a court order?
Mr. Chavez: No, sir.
Mr. Min: There is no court order. Chapter 12, as currently drafted, allows these machines, and
there was simply an interpretation --
Commissioner Gort: Chapter 12 issued by us?
Mr. Min: Correct. Our Chapter 12 --
Commissioner Gort: In other words, the City ofMiami has the right also not to have any?
Mr. Min: Correct. If you want to --
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Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Mr. Min: -- amend Chapter 12 to say they are out altogether, that's a separate issue.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. My question is, how many have you issued so far? How many are
out there?
Mr. Chavez: Exactly 977.
Commissioner Gort: Nine hundred and seventy-seven. I thought you said you had a thousand --
Mr. Chavez: Approximately a thousand.
Commissioner Gort: -- nine hundred -- approximately a thousand. This will not affect the
existing machines at this time --
Mayor Regalado: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: -- this new ordinance?
Mayor Regalado: Come October.
Mr. Chavez: Come October, correct. The new fiscal year.
Commissioner Gort: In October.
Chair Sarnoff Did you mean to say this ordinance will affect them in October, or did you mean
to say --? I believe we issued an emergency moratorium, and when does that run out?
Mr. Chavez: In -- September 30.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. So you really meant to answer him that September 30 the moratorium that
this Commission put in place on an emergency basis will run out?
Mr. Chavez: Correct.
Chair Sarnoff In which case, the then existing ordinance would come back into play, people
could buy as many -- one permit could net you 500 machines versus a permit per machine.
Mr. Chavez: Correct. We have no control out -- what's out there now. They could come and say
I have --
Chair Sarnoff I just --
Mr. Chavez: -- a million machines.
Chair Sarnoff -- I wanted to -- I knew the answer to the -- I think I knew the answer to the
question. I wanted his question answered as -- 'cause I think he needs to have this information.
Mayor Regalado: No. And ifI may, Mr. Chairman. Commissioner Gort, it will affect those
permits because, in October, you have to renew the permit for those 978 [sic].
Chair Sarnoff Can I ask the Law Department one question? If we were to continue the
moratorium, what happens to the 977 existing permits?
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Mr. Min: Nothing. The moratorium --
Commissioner Gort: They operate. They continue to operate.
Mr. Min: -- is until September 30. The moratorium says no new BTRs (Business Tax Receipts)
will be issued.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. So they -- then let's -- well, let me ask you this other question then.
Supposing this Commission -- it was the will of this Commission to keep that moratorium in
place for a year, maybe two years, maybe indefinitely. What would happen to the 977 issued
permits?
Mr. Min: Come October 1, they have to renew a BTR, and if they don't -- if that option's not
available, whether it's because you amended Chapter 31, you issued, I guess, a permanent
moratorium, which -- or -- what -- I mean, it's really not, I don't think, an option, but you know,
if you want to play with Chapter 31 somehow and make it not allowed that they can renew it
effective October 1, then that -- you would -- that's how you'd get rid of those 977.
Chair Sarnoff So what I'm interpreting you saying is if this Commission took an action to make
a policy statement that we do not wish to have games of chances [sic], payment or nonpayment,
then we could do so, and by September 30, there would be no valid permits out there?
Mr. Min: Right now the moratorium expires September 30.
Chair Sarnoff Answer my question.
Mr. Min: And once the moratorium expires, then you have to go back to the way Chapter 12 is
written and the way Chapter 31 is written. So unless Chapter 12 and Chapter 31 are somehow
amended to address that issue, come October 1, you have one person come in, pay $458, and get
a thousand more machines.
Chair Sarnoff That's not the question I asked you. The question I asked you, if it was the will of
this Commission to issue a policy statement, one way or another, that we do not wish to see
games of chances [sic] out there, my understanding of your answer is, that by October 1, there
would be no licensed permitted machine out there?
Mr. Min: It -- I believe that the appropriate way to do that is to amend either Chapter 31 and/or
Chapter 12 to eliminate that option.
Chair Sarnoff In your toolbox, can we do that constitutionally?
Mr. Min: Chapter 31, we do have the constitutional authority and the statutory authority to
delete BTRs. So if you want to delete --
Chair Sarnoff Okay. So -- all right, now that we have your toolbox telling us we can do so,
you're telling me that by October 1, if it was the will of this Commission, there could be no
permitted licensed games of chance out there?
Mr. Min: Yes, sir.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. I'm sorry, I cut somebody off. I think I cut you off. Commissioner Suarez,
and then we're going to go to Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. My -- here's my issue, among many. Actually, I have many
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issues with this. But one is we, as a city, at some point allow these machines to be licensed.
Okay. We make the determination that they're not -- that they're amusement games and we start
licensing them. All of a sudden, we get how many license applications for these kinds of
machines?
Mr. Chavez: Nine hundred and seventy-seven.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay, at $500 a pop. So --
Mayor Regalado: No, no.
Commissioner Dunn: No, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Chavez: No, no, no, no, no, no.
Chair Sarnoff One.
Commissioner Dunn: One could get nine --
Mr. Chavez: Right. That 577 [sic] represented just 30 individuals.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay, so those 30 licenses at $500. Right.
Mr. Chavez: Thirty at five hundred dollars.
Commissioner Suarez: And there's 900 machines, is that what you're saying?
Mr. Chavez: Correct.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. What I'm getting at is, if they're paying $500 for these machines,
I've been told that some of these operators make as much as $2, 000 a month on these kinds of
machines. So to me, if there's a proliferation of people that are out there wanting to pay $500
for these machines, it's because they're getting a return on their investment. You understand
what I'm saying? So that in and of itself indicates to me these are not machines of amusement;
that they're machines that are used for gambling because they're getting a return on their
investment. There's not going to be a proliferation of people that want to get Skeet -Ball [sic]
machines so that people can get little tickets or 75 cents or whatever. You know, that's kind of
my -- I think just by virtue of the fact that we have this problem is an indication to me that these
machines are being used for gambling purposes.
Mayor Regalado: But ifI may? They did not pay $500 for each machine.
Commissioner Dunn: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: And I apologize. I under --
Mayor Regalado: They pay four hundred and something dollars and they got 50, 70, 80 stickers
and --
Chair Sarnoff And Mr. Mayor, I think to answer one question. I understand what he's asking,
and correct -- I apologize ifI don't -- I think you asked, what was the impetus for a flood of
permits. And I think the correct answer was, we had put on a moratorium on an emergency
basis. That, Commissioner, my understanding was, brought somebody in that purchased -- I
heard the number -- 700 of his own licenses. Because him reading our agenda saw that we got
to do this right away, and he came -- this person -- I don't know if it was a male or a female --
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came in and purchased a great number of permits. Again, one permit for maybe 500 machines.
I think that was the question you asked that you wanted to know.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. --
Commissioner Suarez: The -- it's an indication to me that they're a profit -making machines
[sic]. You know, the fact that somebody would come in and want to wholesale and bulk buy all
these permits is an indication to me that they want to legalize a machine that is profit -making for
them indirectly.
Mayor Regalado: But ifI may? I think that the whole question -- and I understand what you're
trying to say. That was my first -- when we were told by Finance that people went and buy
licenses, maybe because they saw in the draft agenda the moratorium and all that. But those 978
[sic] are not the only ones in the City. We have thousands. We have thousands from before.
And, you know, some of the -- I mean, there are arcades, plus there are machines all over. The
issue is not 978 [sic]. The figure that we use was 978 [sic], because we said, well, people are
buying license, and then they are claiming dozens of stickers, but we do not know where those
stickers go. We only know that there is a person or a business that bought a license, they signed
an affidavit, and they said, okay, we're taking 40 or 50 stickers, but we only know the address of
the business. We don't know the address where the stickers will be. Now, if we approve this,
then we will know exactly, sticker by sticker, where the location of the sticker and we'll be able to
check it if we wish to.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may? Just want to address that specific point.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. You continue to have the floor.
Commissioner Suarez: I'm not against knowing where they are. I think I'm in favor of knowing
where they are. I don't think that we necessarily should issue more permits for these kinds of
machines to accomplish that exact same goal, which is to know exactly where they are. Is there
a way that we can, you know, legislate so that we know where these machines are without
extending any more permits? You know, because I think you're right. I think you're making a
good point, which is that we should know where they are so that we can police them properly.
Mayor Regalado: But if we legislate -- and I will defer to Law -- to say, okay, we want to know
where the 978 [sic] or the 1,000 or 2,000, we don't know because Finance has been selling
throughout the year. If we do that and we say no more, the question is, why [sic] would be
benefit and renew the permits of this machines [sic] when the time comes that they have to
renew? Because they have to renew each -- by year.
Commissioner Gort: A year.
Mayor Regalado: It's not a forever. It's not a forever permit. So we will allow some people to
continue making profit and not allow. IfI were -- my -- and I don't know if this possible for -- if
the Law Department says that it's possible. I would put an RFP (Request for Proposals) and
said [sic] to the companies, if you want to buy -- you know, you compete and how much you're
going to give, and you have five, ten companies doing business in Miami. The whole -- I think
that the whole issue here is to control, number one, to avoid misunderstanding with the police,
that a police officer goes to a place and see somebody playing and arrest that person, and that is
legal, and that is not legal. This is what happened with the cafeterias back then. I mean,
hundreds of cases were dismissed. And so, I would, you know, ask you, if you want to, we could
defer this, talk to each of you. Barnaby and the City Attorney will go because they are -- they
know. They have been working weeks and weeks doing the research. I think we don't have a
rush because, as a matter of fact, the moratorium is until September. So we don't have to do this
today. However, we do have to do something before September 30 because by September 30,
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people will be in line buying another 1,000 permits for $4,000. So if you don't have a problem,
we can bring this in 30 days, and we have time to meet with all of you so we can understand. It's
like -- Vice Chairman, this is like Miami 21. You need ten meetings to understand this.
Chair Sarnoff Let me go to Commissioner Dunn and then Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Dunn: I would certainly, Mr. Chairman, colleagues, and Mr. Mayor, be in favor
of deferring this because I'm very much betwixt and between. There are a great deal of
ambiguities. There's some personal issues that -- that I'm wrestling with right now. I know that
the City has its -- and I guess a question for me, which I'm not prepared to vote on it intelligently
and soundly on, is what is the end gain for the City? What is it we're frying to accomplish?
What -- I mean, what's the bottom line? Is it the dollars? Now, I do know this. I have seen those
amusement games in my neighborhood at the little mom-and-pop convenience stores. And I --
you know, I don't pay a lot of attention, but I've seen the people who play those games, and
they're there for hours. I doubt it very seriously if they're just doing it for the amusement of it all.
I -- you know, I just -- so I'm wrestling with all of this in my mind to fry to figure -- and I do know
that a lot of things happen. And everybody's trying to survive, and that we don't always -- people
don't always abide by the guidelines. And once they have control of this -- and then I do
understand the -- being able to regulate and to be able to monitor where these machines are. So
Idoknow --
Mayor Regalado: Commissioner.
Commissioner Dunn: -- they are all over the place.
Mayor Regalado: Commissioner, you're asking for the bottom line. To me, the bottom line is to
regulate.
Commissioner Dunn: Okay.
Mayor Regalado: That's the bottom line.
Commissioner Dunn: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I have a couple of questions. I guess we're going to defer this. But think
it's very important for you -- the information that think is needed is right now you have "X"
amount of thousands of machines out there without any regulations. Now, within the new
ordinance, we'll be able to issue to the establishment, instead of individuals. And each
establishment will get "X" amount of machines, like -- Is the coin machines for the washing
machines and dryer machines, is that part of the -- does this comes under this --
Mr. Min: Under the --
Commissioner Gort: -- and the arcades, the machines used in arcades, places where they -- does
this come under this too?
Mr. Min: Arcades would fall under it, yes.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. So we need to have this ordinance in place. And we -- I agree with
you. I think we need to make sure to organize it so we know where it goes and who's using it.
Now my understanding is, in this ordinance, each establishment will be able to acquire "X"
amount, and they will have to pay for each machine. No longer can anyone come and buy 500
machines. It will have to be by establishment. They will have to have their occupational license.
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They will have to have all the requirements by the City to be operating a business. This is the
things that I think we need to clarify to everyone and that'll be a change.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Mr. Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, I'd like to say that, yes, I think the will of
this Commission is to defer, and I will also be in agreement to defer. I also want to thank the
Mayor for frying, for looking at this and, you know, putting effort into this. I think there's good
things in here; however, there's -- it's obvious that there are also issues within this ordinance
that it seems like most of us have problems with and I think the exfra time will be able to, you
know, let us all read up and be a little bit more educated before we take a final vote, and this is
first reading anyways. The last thing I have, Mr. Chairman, is, you know, being appreciative
that the Mayor brings this up and, you know, with his efforts and we're debating and -- because I
always think that, you know, debating is healthy. Are you going to open up a public hearing
'cause I know there's --
Chair Sarnoff Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- people out there that would wish to, you know, speak in this matter. And
the truth of the matter is, I would like to hear from them because even though we're deferring
and -- or at least I perceive that we're going to defer this, I still would like to hear from public
and so forth because, you know, in the next coming weeks, I would like to take their input into
consideration.
Chair Sarnoff Absolutely agree. Let's open up the public hearing. The public hearing is now
open on RE. 2 -- I'm sorry, FR.1 --
Mariano Cruz: FR.2.
Chair Sarnoff -- FR.2, I apologize. Thanks for correcting me, Mr. Cruz.
Mr. Cruz: Yeah.
Chair Sarnoff You are recognized for the record.
Mr. Cruz: Yeah. Mariano Cruz, 122726 Sfreet. I am going to speak here about this. First, I
laugh when I hear that's -- gambling is prohibited by law by Florida Statute, by City statute.
Killing is also prohibited and for a murder, it's a -- and you get killings everyday out there.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) don't tell me about game of chance or all that because remember -- and I
saw it many -- some years ago when they got the task force going (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Gonzalez used to be --I mean, Major Alvarez, then Sergeant Alvarez,
(UNINTELLIGIBLE), they were confiscating in the places there. And the guy that live across
from my house have a business on 21 st Sfreet called Luna del Caribe. Where Cantina restaurant
used to be, that was a gambling joint, supper club, you call it, everything. He was arrested so
many times, he closed it. But you know, people told me he was making -- the machines was
making $10, 000 a week. People in the construction (UNINTELLIGIBLE), they were blowing
their checks there. And you know, he took his business to 27th and 28th, to the County. He
spent over half a million dollars in (UNINTELLIGIBLE). It's there, 27th and 28th. You can go
and see it. And you know what they did too? They retained your father. Your father was
retained by them because I know -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I have a good memory, Suarez. And
even -- they even fund a candidate for the Commission against Commissioner Gonzalez, okay.
You remember? Because I am here forty -some years and I know -- I don't have to have a
computer. I have a good memory. Thank you. So don't tell me about being forbidden. Go to
Hialeah and see how many machines you see in Hialeah. We need new funding sources. So I
am for the regulation, but no -- the right way. Also, we got to have the Finance inspector in the
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street when you get so many now trucks -- you go outside there in Friday and see the frucks. I
mean, they are frucks on wheels -- I mean, restaurants on wheels selling all over the place, 17
and 28, 13 and 28, 12 and 29, without state, city or anything regulation. They selling on the
street, competing against the legal business that (UNINTELLIGIBLE) going to pay 5 percent
more for the license coming next September -- October. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, Mr. Cruz. Mr. Prieguez, you're recognized for the record.
Manuel Prieguez: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman and Commission. Manny Prieguez,
4000 Malaga Avenue, Miami, Florida 33133. First of all, let -- here representing Magic City
Casino. First, let me just say for the record, Magic City Casino and me personally, for that
matter, you know, feel very uncomfortable having to come up here and, unfortunately, be in
opposition to the Mayor on the particular language that you had before you today. The Mayor,
going back to the prior Administration, was one of the biggest champions that this community
had for the Magic City Casino, and he, quite frankly, had the vision and saw that -- how
important this facility was going to be for creating jobs and for doing all the positive things that
we have done. So having -- you know, although we're in opposition, we feel very uncomfortable,
you know, sometimes not agreeing with our very, very good friends. And just as a very, very
quick update, since we've been up and running in October, the facility, through its voluntary one
and a half percent share in gambling revenues to the City ofMiami, has donated more than
$500, 000 to the City. Of the 500-plus employees, we have 350 documented City ofMiami
employees that account for 6 to $8 million in salaries. And these are people that live here in the
City ofMiami documented. So this is a very complex issue. It's a very thorny issue. And I'll just
say a couple of things. The first thing I want to say is that we believe that what's currently in the
books is the most effective way of enforcing these amusement machines that are used for
gambling purposes because the City states very clearly that gambling machines of this nature
are not allowed. So Chapter 12, in our opinion, is right on, that together with the kind of police
enforcement that we've seen over the course of the last four years. The problem that we have
with this language is that the language -- this very language has been used around the state of
Florida and as close as the City of Hialeah in order to amusement machines that are fruly being
used for gambling purposes. Let me be very clear. There is a loophole in state law that allows
companies -- if they're allowed to by municipalities -- to take advantage of a loophole where they
can state that they are amusement machines but are truly gambling machines in nature, and
there's nothing that anyone can do about it unless cities, like the City ofMiami, you know, put
their foot down and prevent that from happening. So our worry is that although the Mayor and
the Administration has the right intentions of not allowing gambling machines to run around
under the guise of amusement machines, this language is not the right language because this is
the language that the City of Hialeah uses in order to have amusement machines that are really
used for gambling and what many other municipalities around the state of Florida, in fact, use
as their template to be able to get around and exploit the loophole that exists. So the devil is in
the details. You have to be so careful when you craft this language because today, as Barnaby
stated, bona fide amusement machines, things that we remember as Pac-Man and Donkey Kong,
are absolutely allowed in the City ofMiami, and you could absolutely have them without any
problem It's when these machines are used for gambling that then Chapter 12 kicks in and says,
hey, no way that this could be allowed. So we look forward to working with the Administration
to tighten it as much as possible to make sure that people don't exploit this and don't become too
entrepreneurial, if you will, and certainly work straight with the Commission and with each
Commissioner to make sure that this is done right. So with that, I --
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Prieguez, I have a couple questions and one clarification. The only
clarification I'd like to say to you is Magic City doesn't donate the City to the -- doesn't donate its
money to the City ofMiami. It is regulated. And part of its regulatory scheme is it provides us
1.5 percent. Not a donation.
Mr. Prieguez: Well, it's -- it was a voluntary agreement, Commissioner, that was entered into
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that literally has the 1.5 percent --
Chair Sarnoff It was an agreement -- I was here. And it was an agreement that was necessary
for us to allow that regulatory scheme to go by. It's not a donation. We didn't come to you as a
city, as a charitable venture, and saying would you mind donating money to us. It's a
self -regulatory scheme. I don't want to get into --
Mr. Prieguez: That's fine.
Chair Sarnoff -- words of --
Mr. Prieguez: That's fine.
Chair Sarnoff -- parsing with you.
Mr. Prieguez: We're partners. However way you put it, we're partners, whether we're donating
or not.
Chair Sarnoff I consider it that we're your regulator, along with the State. But --
Mr. Prieguez: All right.
Commissioner Gort: We'll accept additional donation, I mean. We don't have any problem with
that. I'm sure the Mayor will be very happy.
Chair Sarnoff I have a -- I actually have a question for you because you're actually --
Mr. Prieguez: Yes, sir.
Chair Sarnoff -- championing something I didn't think you would champion, and that is let's
leave it alone just the way it is. The Mayor says if -- let's leave it alone just the way it is, we have
people out there right now who are getting permits, permits for machines, which you say are
gambling, but permits for machines that we don't know what they really do, correct?
Mr. Prieguez: Yeah.
Chair Sarnoff So if we leave it alone, correct me if I'm wrong, don't we continue the problem of
people coming in for $500 -- getting a thousand permits for another $500, coming in getting
another thousand permits. Isn't that a problem in and of itself?
Mr. Prieguez: I would argue no, and let me tell you why. Because right now Chapter 12 is so
clear that gambling machines are not allowed that if -- let's say hypothetically this ordinance
weren't to pass and it would go away and the status quo would remain. Those 970-some odd
permits are not going to be used for what they were intended to be used for.
Chair Sarnoff They'll be used for gambling.
Mr. Prieguez: No, no, no. They're not going to be used at all. My opinion is is that those
permits were acquired because somebody saw what was happening and thought that this
language was going to pass and knew that that would open up an opportunity to play with the
loopholes that exist in state law, and they would have eventually tried to have used them for
gambling purposes. That's our position. If you stay with Chapter 12 as it is, okay, I would bet
you, no pun intended, that the machines that those stickers were bought for would not be used for
what they were intended to be used for. In other words, those machines -- those stickers were
not used for Coca-Cola machines. Those stickers were not gotten [sic] for Laundromats. They
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weren't gotten [sic] from any other type of coin -operated machine. They were purchased
because this was looming on the horizon. And as Commissioner Suarez astutely, you know,
argued --
Chair Sarnoff He's always astute.
Mr. Prieguez: Well --
Chair Sarnoff You don't have to put that in front of it.
Mr. Prieguez: -- as they -- as he astutely argued, nobody would -- nobody is getting into this
because they're going to put Donkey Kongs and Pac Mans.
Chair Sarnoff But doesn't --
Mr. Prieguez: Nobody is getting into this --
Chair Sarnoff -- your argument -- doesn't it tear upon the foundation upon which you stand?
Mr. Prieguez: Also --
Chair Sarnoff I mean, aren't you saying, if we leave it just the way it is, we know they're going
to use it for gambling. And I'm --
Mr. Prieguez: But you have -- you know, you have enforcement. You have an enforcement that -
Chair Sarnoff Well, here's --
Mr. Prieguez: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this question. If right now it is strictly not
permitted and they're doing it, but then you follow that up with regulations that actually opens
the door and loosens it up in my opinion, wouldn't that open up the fungus? Wouldn't that make
it even worse? I mean, people are selling cocaine on --
Chair Sarnoff But if we leave it --
Mr. Prieguez: -- the corner --
Chair Sarnoff -- just the way it is and since we have history, which is the best predictor of the
future, the City ofMiami spent in the past four years well over a half a million dollars of police
resources going through the quality of life task force --
Mr. Prieguez: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff -- which included a more robust, at the time, Code enforcement unit that we no
longer have as robust. That takes officers out of his district, his district --
Mr. Prieguez: Correct.
Chair Sarnoff -- his district, his district, and you say leave it just the way it is and just continue
your enforcement. That's an enforcement arm that we don't have, that we're losing as a result of
budgetary constraints. And I guess I didn't expect you to come up here and say laissez-faire,
status quo, keep it just the way it is, you guys are doing great, because on the other end, you
have ChiefExposito trying to respond to him, Commissioner -- the Vice Chair, you know,
Commissioner Dunn's district. Everybody's demanding more cops. There are only so many
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cops. Some of these cops are going to be used on this task force. I would have expected to hear
from you, place a moratorium on these machines.
Mr. Prieguez: We're fine with that. We're absolutely fine with placing a moratorium. I mean,
that -- but you know, I mean, what come -- you know, can you effectively regulate -- somebody
that has bad intentions is going to do it anyway. I mean, you come down to that fundamental,
you know, problem.
Chair Sarnoff But correct me if I'm wrong, if a police officer goes in a -- any establishment -- I
don't want to typify what it is -- sees one of these machines, these machines are -- there's a
moratorium on them. There's no if [sic], ands or but [sic], it's contraband.
Mr. Prieguez: You got it. Listen, if you scale these, if you put a -- create a totem pole, what you
communicated a little while ago would probably be the most effective way of doing this and the
most airtight way of doing this. I would place second, quite frankly, with the status quo because
-- you know, I live in the City ofMiami. I have my businesses in East Little Havana where a lot
of this stuff has occurred, and you know, maybe I'm not seeing it, but heck, it's nothing, nothing
like in the City of Hialeah where they're permitted. I mean, I don't see them as pervasive. You
know, maybe there's a couple of little cafeterias and a couple little bars that have them in the
back and that's where people go, but they're certainly not out in the open in a very, you know,
obvious way. So I would place second from an enforcement/regulatory prospective with what we
have now. And third, I guess I would have to see new language, you know, that would come
from the Administration to be able to properly, you know, judge whether, you know, it would be
responsible or not. Your way of doing it, we would wholly endorse.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Gort: In accordance to this ordinance, you're not allowed to have it in the
backroom, in a closed -door room. It's got to be out in the open, according to this ordinance. So
the -- I don't see that problem.
Mr. Prieguez: Well -- but the problem then would be is that you would have them. They would
be legal. That would be the problem then. Because right now those --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah. But with the method you're talking about, the buyer -- the guy who
buy the thousand permits, you don't know where they go. They can put them anywhere they want
to. The other way, when we regulate it, each business would have to bring one and they'll be
charged so much and they'll be -- they won't be do it.
Mr. Prieguez: Commissioner, I would again respectfully submit to you that that person that
bought those a thousand permits is not going to do anything with those permits if this doesn't
pass.
Commissioner Gort: Come on.
Mr. Prieguez: He's not because he could have done it before. That guy, a year ago, could have
bought those a thousand permits. Two years ago, he could have bought those a thousand
permits. Is it a coincidence that he bought the thousand permits two months ago?
Mayor Regalado: But ifI may, Mr. Prieguez. There's no one single person that bought 1,000
permits. There were 30 entities that bought license and then they ask for so many stickers.
There were 30 people that bought that. And we gave that figure just to -- so you understand how
liberal is what we have now. Now, I have requested to defer this so we can meet with every
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members [sic] of the Commission. We met with you. We will again because we do want to
protect Magic City Casino. We all know that. It's something that -- it's like donating to the City
a certain --
Mr. Prieguez: Cover your ears, Mr. Chairman.
Mayor Regalado: -- amount --
Mr. Prieguez: Cover your ears.
Mayor Regalado: -- of money. And --
Chair Sarnoff Confractually bound, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: Yeah. And --
Chair Sarnoff Confractually bound. If that becomes a donation, we're all donators.
Mayor Regalado: And by the way --
Mr. Prieguez: I'm a taxpayer; I'm a donator.
Mayor Regalado: -- and for the record, as Mayor, I supported the lobbying team of the City of
Miami in Tallahassee to get them --
Mr. Prieguez: The tax break.
Mayor Regalado: -- more relief --
Mr. Prieguez: The tax break --
Mayor Regalado: -- the tax break. We, as a city, supported them, which will give them several
million dollars more to operate, so there's nothing here about Magic City. Coming back to the
language, this is about regulation. We -- and the Chairman is right. We do not have the
resources to send every Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, the task force of ten police officers,
ten Code Enforcement persons. We are doing noise during the weekend now. We're doing, you
know, the entertainment district. It's -- we need resources so we can have resources so we can
check that. This ordinance is regulatory. We will know exactly where each machine is and a
Finance inspector, Code Enforcement inspector can go there and they will be -- they will have
the capability of communicating to the police if they see something. But having said that, I
would request a deferral for 30 days --
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Mayor Regalado: - and we will be meeting with you.
Chair Sarnoff Let me just go to Commissioner Suarez, and then we will have your motion.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll make the motion for a two -meeting
deferral. But I also wanted to say, I think what -- Mr. Prie [sic], I don't mean to put words in
your mouth either, but I think what he meant by the status quo was the status quo before the City
changed its policy to allow these licenses to be -- these machines to be licensed. Is that -- isn't
that what you meant?
Mayor Regalado: No. No, no.
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Mr. Prieguez: Well, again, I think just for clarification purposes, these machines -- bona fide
amusement machines, Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, have always been allowed --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Prieguez: -- in the City of Miami. There's no -- no one is precluded from being able to buy
a sticker to use for that kind of machine, okay. The problem is is that when you use this
language, this particular language to regulate amusement machines, you're opening the door to
the loophole that described earlier because this is the language that the City of Hialeah uses
for amusement machines that are used for gambling. And so therein lies the rub. Therein --
there's the epicenter of this debate. Create language that will be used for bona fide amusement
machines, for what you see in Dave and Buster's, for what you see at Chuck E. Cheese, for what
you see at establishments like that, not for what you see in Hialeah. Because I don't want to put
words in anybody's mouth here, especially the Mayor, but don't believe this Commission and
this Administration wants anything remotely similar to what is in Hialeah right now.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Suarez: And I just want to finish by saying that, you know, after making the
motion, I agree with the Mayor, that this is a healthy debate. And this is -- you know, one of the
great things about the Mayor's Administration and this Commission is that we've been able to
have these healthy debates in the Sunshine and discuss these issues and come to something
where everyone feels -- you know, not everyone always, but we all feel most of the time to be
relatively satisfied with the outcome. And I will work hard, Mr. Mayor, you know, with the
Adminisfration to try to see if we can craft something that achieves the goal of all the parties.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Yeah. I was -- Thank you, Mr. Chair. -- basically getting ready to allude
to the same thing. I -- from whatl hear you saying, Manny, is that really, to some extent, we all
want the same thing, to some extent. I do know what Casino's bottom line is. I understand that
quite clearly. But it just, to me -- and I'm not an expert on this, but it seems as if there's some
type of regulatory mechanism placed in there, it would stem the tide. Help me understand how,
in your opinion, not doing anything would open up the floodgates. I just --
Mr. Prieguez: No. Not doing anything would not open up the floodgates. If you had, in theory,
passed this language today, in my -- that would have opened up the floodgates.
Commissioner Dunn: That's what meant to say.
Mr. Prieguez: Well, again, the reason why that is is because the language as written here in first
reading is substantially identical to the language that's in place in the City of Hialeah
ordinances and in many other municipalities around the state, and that is the language that the
attorneys for these places hide behind when they, in fact, put forth machines that they say are
amusement machines but are being used for gambling purposes. So, if the City wants to regulate
amusement machines that are not being used for gambling, then I would respectfully recommend
that you come nowhere near this language because this is the language that is used up and down
the peninsula in order to be able to get into that loophole that exists in state law to be able to use
the gray machines, as they're commonly referred to around the state. And there are many ways
to skin this cat. There are many ways to be able to craft language that the Adminisfration will
feel safe that if people are doing what they say they're doing, they'll be bringing machines here
that are going to be used for amusement purposes and not for gambling.
Chair Sarnoff All right, folks. We had a motion on the floor and we need a second.
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FR.3
10-00743
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff And the Vice Chair seconds. All right. Any further discussion on the deferral?
You gave a date -- two week --
Commissioner Suarez: Two -meeting deferral.
Chair Sarnoff -- two -meeting deferral.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah.
Chair Sarnoff That would take us --
Mayor Regalado: Thirty days.
Chair Sarnoff Right.
Chair Sarnoff -- to July 22.
Mayor Regalado: It's the last meeting of July.
Chair Sarnoff Right, July 22. All right.
Mayor Regalado: And if you have this discussion for the deferral, imagine.
Chair Sarnoff Maybe we'll have a special meeting on this. Any further discussion, gentlemen?
Hearing no discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff And I will close the public hearing. Anybody else in the public wishing to be
heard on the deferral of this issue? All right, hearing none, seeing none, it is closed. Everybody
okay with their vote? Reaffirm yes. Okay. All right, very good.
ORDINANCE
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
62 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,
ENTITLED "ZONING AND PLANNING", BY AMENDING ARTICLE XIII,
ENTITLED, "ZONING APPROVAL FOR TEMPORARY USES AND
OCCUPANCIES; PERMIT REQUIRED", MORE PARTICULARLY BY
AMENDING SECTION 62-604 TO ALLOW NO MORE THAN TWENTY-FIVE
(25) MURAL PERMITS TO BE ISSUED AT ANY ONE TIME AND IN ANY ONE
CITY COMMISSION DISTRICT; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE,
AND PROVIDING FOR AN IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00743 Legislation.pdf
SPONSOR:CHAIRMAN SARNOFF
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
WITHDRAWN PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
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Note for the Record: Please refer to "Order of the Day" for minutes referencing item FR.3.
END OF ORDINANCES - FIRST READING
RESOLUTIONS
RE.1 RESOLUTION
10-00719
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Capital ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING THE CITY OF MIAMI'S LIST OF EXPEDITED
Improvements PROJECTS, PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 13045, ADOPTED
Program DECEMBER 11, 2008, BY REPLACING THE CURRENT "ATTACHMENT A,"
WITH "ATTACHMENT A - 6/24/10 REVISED," ATTACHED AND
INCORPORATED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCLUDING UPCOMING
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SOLICITATIONS AND PROJECTS.
10-00719 Legislation.pdf
10-00719 Exhibit SUB.pdf
10-00719 Summary Form.pdf
10-00719 Text File Reports.pdf
10-00719 Pre-Attachment.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0274
Chair Sarnoff All right. Somebody want to re -- you want to get me back to where we can
start? Looks like --
Vice Chair Carollo: RE.1.
Chair Sarnoff RE.1.
Alice Bravo: Good morning. Alice Bravo, CIP (Capital Improvements Program) director, City
ofMiami.
Chair Sarnoff You're getting your pay's worth today.
Ms. Bravo: Yeah. RE.1 is an update to the expedite projects list that has been presented in the
past. So we're -- updated the list to reflect projects that have already been procured and
awarded and added upcoming solicitations for future projects.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Anybody -- let me open it up to a public hearing, gentlemen. Anyone
wishing to be heard on RE.10 [sic], which is the expedited projects list, please step up to the
microphone, the podium.
Commissioner Gort: RE.10 or RE.1?
Chair Sarnoff I'm sorry. You're right, RE.1.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
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Chair Sarnoff The expedited list, RE.1, page 13 of the agenda. Anyone wishing to be heard?
Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to this Commission. Is there a motion? Commissioner
Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I'll make a motion, but for discussion.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort, motion for discussion.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Second by Commissioner Suarez for discussion.
Commissioner Gort: What do we have to do to add projects to this list?
Ms. Bravo: It --
Commissioner Gort: Can we amend it?
Ms. Bravo: It's amended periodically or it could be amended monthly, if necessary.
Commissioner Gort: I'd like to see the Juan Pablo Duarte Park included in here.
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: We've been working on it for a while now.
Ms. Bravo: In our next amendment, we can include it or we can add it today.
Commissioner Gort: I'd like to add it today --
Ms. Bravo: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- as amended.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Any other Commissioners?
Commissioner Suarez: I second, as amended.
Chair Sarnoff All right, second, as amended. Any further discussion, gentlemen? Hearing
none, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.2 RESOLUTION
10-00721
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Capital ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
Improvements JOINT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT
Program OF TRANSPORTATION, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
ACCEPTING THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S CONTRIBUTION, IN THE AMOUNT
OF $619,416, FOR THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE BISCAYNE-BRICKELL TROLLEY SERVICE;
AUTHORIZING THE ALLOCATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI'S ("CITY'S")
REQUIRED MATCHING FUNDS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $619,416, FROM THE
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CITY'S SHARE OF THE ONE-HALF CENT TRANSIT SURTAX PROCEEDS
OF THE PEOPLE'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
10-00721 Legislation.pdf
10-00721 Exhibit.pdf
10-00721 Summary Form.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0269
Chair Sarnoff Now I think I gave a 10 o'clock time certain, which, under our timeframe, we're
right on track, for RE.2. RE.2 is the Biscayne trolley. It's on page 13, gentlemen. RE.2,
Department of Capital Improvements. Mr. Manager. Did everybody take a day off today? Is it -
-? All right, we'll move on.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. She's there.
Alice Bravo (Director, Capital Improvements): Good morning. Sorry.
Chair Sarnoff Were you enjoying the debate on slot machines?
Ms. Bravo: I did.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. As long as we were mesmerizing you back there and --
Commissioner Suarez: You're tipping your hand there.
Ms. Bravo: Item RE.2 is to authorize the City Manager to enter into a joint participation
agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation to accept funds towards the operation
of one of the trolley routes that we're evaluating. And these funds are in the Department's fiscal
year '11 of their (UNINTELLIGIBLE) program.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Chair, ifI might ask, can we please get a name for the
record so the public will --
Chair Sarnoff Yes.
Ms. Thompson: -- know who's speaking?
Chair Sarnoff Can you please state your name for the record with an appropriate address?
Ms. Bravo: Alice Bravo, CIP (Capital Improvements Program) director --
Chair Sarnoff City ofMiami.
Ms. Bravo: -- City ofMiami.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Do we have a motion on RE.2?
Commissioner Dunn: So move.
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Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by Commissioner Dunn, second by Commissioner Suarez. Any
discussion, gentlemen? Hearing -- I'll open up a public hearing. Anybody wishing to be heard
on RE.2, which is the Biscayne trolley? Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to this
Commission. We have a motion. We have a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.3 RESOLUTION
10-00722
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Purchasing ATTACHMENT(S), PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION NO. 08-0367, ADOPTED
JUNE 26, 2008, AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS NO. 23019, ACCEPTING
THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE AGREEMENT FROM SOLID RESOURCE, INC.
TO O'BRIEN'S RESPONSE MANAGEMENT, INC TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY
DEBRIS CONTRACT MONITORING; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, TO EFFECTUATE THE ASSIGNMENT, UNDER THE ORIGINAL
SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SAID AGREEMENT WITH SOLID
RESOURCE, INC. FOR SAID PURPOSE.
10-00722 Legislation.pdf
10-00722 Exhibit.pdf
10-00722 Summary Form.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0275
Chair Sarnoff Looks like we're on RE.3.
Commissioner Gort: Two -- three.
Glenn Marcos: Good morning, Commissioners. Glenn Marcos, Purchasing director. RE.3 is
an item that is requesting an assignment of an agreement for the emergency debris contract
monitoring from Solid Resources, Inc. to O'Brien's Response Management. Both companies
merged and they've asked for the assignment to take place.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Let me open it up to a public hearing. Anybody wish to be heard on
RE.3, which is an assignment to a solid waste contract? Hearing none, seeing none, coming
back to this Commission. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So move.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Motion by Commissioner Dunn, second by Commissioner Suarez. Any
discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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RE.4
10-00555
Office of Strategic
Planning,
Budgeting, and
Performance
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), UPDATING THE MULTI -YEAR CAPITAL PLAN BY
APPROPRIATING NEW FUNDING AND CONTINUING PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2010.
10-00555 Legislation.pdf
10-00555 Exhibit SUB.pdf
10-00555 Summary Form.pdf
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
R-10-0276
Chair Sarnoff Okay, RE.4. RE.4.
Alice Bravo: Good morning. Alice Bravo, CIP (Capital Improvements Program) director, City
ofMiami. Item RE.4 is an update to the multiyear capital plan for capital improvements, and
update appropriations and project balances as presented.
Chair Sarnoff All right, let me open it up to a public hearing. Anybody wishing to be heard on
RE.4, the multiyear capital plan, please step up. Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to this
Commission. Is there a motion?
Vice Chair Carollo: So moved with --
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- amendment.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion by the Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Dunn.
You're recognized for the record, Mr. Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. I have four amendments, and these are all appropriations
within District 3. My first amendment, page 9, appropriation amount of $343,248 from project
number B30168C [sic] to project number 40-B30613 on page 11. That's my first amendment.
My second amendment is on page 13, appropriation amount of $1,975, 000 from project B40686
[sic] to project number 40-B30613 on page 11. My third amendment is amending, on page 9, an
appropriation amount of $9, 800 from project number 40-B30168B to project number 40-B30613
in page 11. And my fourth and last amendment is to amend, on page 8, appropriation amount of
$2,120,492 from number -- project number 40-B30031A to project number 40-B30613 on page
11. And Ms. Bravo, I just want to make sure that in this last project, and we spoke about this,
that we work together with Dorca from Grants in order for the bike lanes. In line with my
physical conservatism, you know that I totally disagree with tearing up roads that do not need to
be torn up. And I think with a grant that we approved just a few Commission meetings, we could
do the bike lanes and achieve the same task. Those are my four amendments.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record, Commissioner Suarez.
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Commissioner Suarez: One of the amendment numbers -- I couldn't follow all of the amendment
numbers, but one of them -- and I think you said before the amendments that they were all
coming from District 3.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. All the amendments are coming from Disfrict 3. The $9, 800 were
funded in that number right there, which is various -- if you notice, it's from various Shenandoah
traffic circles. However, $9,800 came from District 3 funds and were never utilized for any
Disfrict 3 projects.
Commissioner Suarez: I have no problem with that. The one that I thought I heard you read --
and maybe I didn't read it careful -- maybe I didn't understand it correctly -- was 40-B30168B,
which says Silver Bluff Traffic Calming Phase II.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly. That's the one -- it's for -- the whole appropriation was $2 million.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: However, that was $9,800 from District 3 that was not utilized for any
Disfrict 3 projects. And it's my understanding there should be about a million something left
over in there for, you know --
Commissioner Suarez: Everything else.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, for everything else.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I got it.
Vice Chair Carollo: However, 9,800 specifically were from Disfrict 3 sfreet bonds. I believe it
was street bonds --
Ms. Bravo: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- and were not used in District 3. I don't know if they were used in Disfrict
4 or they were just not used at all.
Ms. Bravo: And --
Commissioner Suarez: Can you con --?
Ms. Bravo: Yes. Of the 2 million original budget for the project, 9,800 was from Disfrict 3
street bonds. The balance is from District 4 sfreet bonds. The project is being closed out for
construction and will have a remaining balance of Disfrict 4 street bonds that could be
reallocated in the future.
Commissioner Suarez: I have a general question, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah, please.
Commissioner Suarez: My general question is, I didn't know prior to the Vice Chairman offering
these amendments that there were potentially other districts' street bond money intermingled
with, you know, projects that are -- that were planned for District 4. And so I'm concerned that,
you know, based on what the Vice Chair is saying, there may be other projects that have other
kinds of --
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Commissioner Gort: There's a lot of intermingles.
Commissioner Suarez: -- intermingling.
Chair Sarnoff Is there a lot?
Commissioner Suarez: For example, there may be District 4 money that is allocated in other
districts, and what I'm not getting is why wasn't I, you know, notified of all of this before the
meeting and why, you know -- and is there other monies from District 4 potentially that may be
in other district projects that were District 4 street bond money?
Ms. Bravo: Yeah. I --
Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Chair --
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- before -- I do want to say, Commissioner Suarez, that I know of this
instance. In reviewing my district's, it doesn't seem like there were any others. However, also
take into consideration, this was something that was approved, I think it was, in '08, so -- and so
-- and that's why we're updating it. So again, you know, this was approved, you know, in prior
Commission meet -- prior Commission and so forth and now that's where, you know, we're
updating and so forth. And I saw this one instance. I don't see of -- you know, any other
instance and -- just for the record. And I didn't want to, you know, speak before you, Madam
Director, but I just wanted to point it out.
Chair Sarnoff And to give you a little bit of history. Street bonds two -- and I don't know that
you even know this -- was essentially divided into five, over objection by me, because the sfreet
bonds money is theoretically there to fix all of our streets, and it wasn't done by the percentage
of streets that we had in the City ofMiami, and it wasn't done by the percentage of failing sfreets,
which apparently get rated by not only the City, but by the County and by the State. So, in some
respects, a lot of Commissioners got a significant benefit by having street bonds divided by five.
Disfrict 2 got injured by that because my understanding is that more than 40 percent of all the
streets exist in Disfrict 2 and 60 percent of all the F-rated sfreets exist in District 2. So I'll give
you a historical background of how you can politicize money and that was the politicization of
money.
Commissioner Suarez: And I appreciate the lesson, and I welcome --
Chair Sarnoff No. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) memory.
Commissioner Suarez: -- it in any -- you know, giving context to any other item that comes
before us because, as I've mentioned before, you know, our institutional memories are very short.
I just want to make sure -- I want an affirmative statement on the record that no District 4
monies from sfreet bonds or any other source are allocated in other district projects and vice
versa.
Ms. Bravo: That I'm aware of there are none, and we're going to pull a specific report to --
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Bravo: -- confirm that. And if anything should arise --
Commissioner Suarez: We can always readdress it --
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RE.5
10-00718
District 5 -
Commissioner
Richard Dunn H
Ms. Bravo: -- we will come back to you.
Commissioner Suarez: -- in the future. Okay. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: AndMr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized.
Vice Chair Carollo: And Commissioner, I don't want to apologize, but I apologize. I know the
director is working on that and I kind of jumped the gun a little bit when I started going into all
my projects and so forth. So you know, I know she's definitely doing a good job and looking into
all of that, as she told me. I just -- you know, I guess it was my fault 'cause I jumped the gun and
started looking at all these different projects and so forth, so I just want to put that for the
record.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort? No. All right, gentlemen, we have a motion. We have a
second. It was for discussion. Are you prepared to vote?
Vice Chair Carollo: As amended.
Chair Sarnoff As amended.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): As amended.
Chair Sarnoff As amended. All in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Bravo: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION REQUIRING FOUR (4)
VOTES TO CODESIGNATE NORTHWEST 10TH STREET FROM
NORTHWEST 3RD AVENUE TO NORTHWEST 4TH AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS "WILLIS-RICHARDSON STREET;" FURTHER DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO
TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE HEREIN DESIGNATED
OFFICES.
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Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Note for the Record: Item RE.5 was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently
scheduled for July 8, 2010.
Chair Sarnoff Looks like we're up -- RE.15, correct me ifI'm -- RE.5, excuse me, is -- that's
been withdrawn or continued?
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Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No.
Chair Sarnoff That is going right now? Still on?
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff Then RE.5.
Commissioner Gort: Naming of the street.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. That's been deferred, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff I think you need a motion.
Commissioner Dunn: I would like to defer this --
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a mo --
Commissioner Dunn: -- to July 8, I think it is. Yes.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by Commissioner Dunn --
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff -- to continue this to July 8. Is there a second?
Vice Chair Carollo: Second, and I think it's a deferral.
Chair Sarnoff I thought -- is it a deferral or continue --? A deferral means what, the next
Commission meeting?
Ms. Thompson: The deferral -- if it's the next like meeting, that's a continuance. If it's anything
else, if you're deferring it to another meeting a week apart, that's your deferral.
Commissioner Dunn: Could you repeat that? I'm lost. I'm sorry.
Chair Sarnoff Me too.
Commissioner Dunn: I just want to be clear on it.
Chair Sarnoff She usually gives us that little paper, that cheat sheet.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Yes. And I will make sure that you get this paper again, okay.
Chair Sarnoff All right, it's a motion to defer.
Vice Chair Carollo: To the date that's stated by --
Chair Sarnoff To July 8.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly.
Commissioner Dunn: Okay.
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Chair Sarnoff All right, we have a motion and we have a second. Any discussion? All in favor,
please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.6 RESOLUTION
10-00740
Department of Solid A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Waste ATTACHMENT(S), RELATING TO THE PROVISION OF SOLID WASTE
SERVICES, FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA; DESCRIBING THE METHOD OF ASSESSING SOLID WASTE
COSTS AGAINST PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI;
DIRECTING THE PREPARATION OF AN ASSESSMENT ROLL;
AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 14, 2010; AND
DIRECTING THE PROVISION OF NOTICE THEREOF; AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00740 Legislation.pdf
10-00740 Exhibit.pdf
10-00740 Exhibit 2.pdf
10-00740 Exhibit 3.pdf
10-00740 Exhibit 4.pdf
10-00740 Exhibit 5.pdf
10-00740 Summary Form.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff and Dunn II
Noes: 2 - Commissioner(s) Carollo and Suarez
R-10-0277
Chair Sarnoff Okay. RE.5 -- RE.6.
Keith Carswell: Good afternoon. Keith Carswell, assistant director for Department of Solid
Waste. The proposed increase in the solid waste fee is to support the waste management
operations of the Department in the City ofMiami.
Chair Sarnoff I'm sorry. Are you asking us to set --?
Mr. Carswell: Asking that you set the modest increase from 365 to $395 per residential
household to support the waste management operations of the City.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Let me open it up to a public hearing. Anybody from the public
wishing to be heard on RE.6, please step up.
Mariano Cruz: Myself.
Chair Sarnoff However, you must be a taxpayer. Just kidding.
Mr. Cruz: I fee pay. See, you were listening to me.
Chair Sarnoff I listen to you.
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Mr. Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 26 Street. Seeing the service that the Solid Waste does, 'cause I
know that they do a good service, and compared to other municipalities, I am in favor myself of
paying more for solid waste. Last year I was in favor of paying (UNINTELLIGIBLE) $50. It
doesn't bother me. I will pay the increase because I know it's put to a good use and that's the
people that sweat out there, okay, not people that stays in the MRC (Miami Riverside Center)
building looking at the river down there, okay. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Anyone else wishing to be heard on RE.6, please come up. That is
the setting of the solid waste fee. Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to the Commission.
Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So moved, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Motion by Commissioner Dunn. Is there a second? Interesting.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Second by Commissioner Gort. Discussion, gentlemen. Commissioner Suarez,
you're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Unfortunately, I cannot support this item.
Growing up, I was always kind of taught that the City ofMiami does three basic things. It
polices our streets. It protects us from the Fire -Rescue prospective, and it collects our garbage.
Those are the three essential things that the City ofMiami does. And we collect $500 million to
do that on a yearly basis. For me, I understand that maybe other municipalities charge more
money. I may be -- I take a -- I may take a hard line or I may have a harsh perspective on this,
butl don't think that we should charge anything. And I think that we should figure out a way to
provide those three basic services within our means. That's my philosophy on the fee. It's never
been challenged. I just spoke to the City Attorney. She -- it's never been challenged. The
Fire -Rescue fee was challenged successfully. I don't know that anybody will ever challenge it in
the future. I suspect that they might have success in overturning it, and if they did -- because
these are the three basic things that the City does. If we don't provide these services within our
means, then, you know -- I mean, we can always say that these departments are all out of budget,
I mean, in the sense of we're not getting what we pay for them if we were to charge on a
fee -for -service basis, but we don't charge fee for service. We charge in ad valorem taxes based
on the value of homes and that should be sufficient to pay for the things that we -- the basic
services that we provide. So I can't support this because it -- first of all, it -- in essence, it has me
ratify the fee that currently exists, but not only that, it increases -- gives the Commission the
discretion to increase it further in the future. And since I don't agree with it in the first place, I
can't vote in favor of this.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, yes. To my colleagues, Mr. Chairman, and to
Commissioner Suarez, I understand your position. One of the issues that -- that's -- that think
that we should take under consideration is the fact that our solid waste fees are, in fact -- and
you did mention that in your comments -- the lowest in South Florida. Given the fact that we
have a magnanimous deficit, I believe that the increase from 360 to 3 -- 365, pardon me, to 395
would generate about $20 [sic] million. In addition to that, I have also been informed that we
pick up -- I think we pick up around not the solid waste, but the trash, we do that once a week --
twice a week, I'm sorry, twice a week, where some municipalities, if I'm not mistaken, may do it
once or once every two weeks.
Chair Sarnoff Once a week.
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Commissioner Dunn: Once a week.
Chair Sarnoff We do once a week.
Commissioner Gort: Trash is one a week --
Commissioner Dunn: One, yeah.
Commissioner Gort: -- and the other one is two. Yes.
Commissioner Dunn: But the --
Commissioner Gort: The garbage.
Commissioner Dunn: -- frash piles, we do that once a week. In other municipalities -- I
probably have a distinct situation where I live. On the east side, I'm in the City, and right across
the street is the County. I actually have that, so I see both departments at work and there is no
pickup at all, if I'm not mistaken, for the County. I'm not suggesting that we go to that, but it is a
burden on our department. So I just saw this as -- I support this because I believe this would at
least help alleviate some of the pain and maybe generate some income.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Dunn: I would really like to do more than that. I would support something more
than that, butt know that that's out of the question.
Chair Sarnoff All right, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: You know, I can understand your point of view, Commissioner Suarez, and
I wish we could provide it without any fee paid by the residents, but unfortunately, as the -- right
now we're projecting about $80 million deficit next year. If we were not to charge anything,
you'd have an additional thirty some million dollars coming to it. I know $20 million -- I mean,
$20 increase a year will not affect that much, but at the same time we have the best sanitation
system in the world. I mean, we pick up garbage twice a week, trash once a week. No one else
has that type of services in the city, and that's one of the reasons why I second the motion.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Mr. Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have grappled with this for a few days now
and I'll tell you why. First of all, I see that it's a modest increase and at the same time, it's not
even an increase. It's just the maximum that we could increase. However, the perception will be
this is what, you know, garbage fees will be. Saying that, I believe at this time I am not ready to
vote for any increases or suggest any increases because I do feel that although the
Administration is doing one heck of a job -- and I always say actions speak louder than words
and we're seeing it. They came today with the May 30 numbers, which has been the fastest, the
quickest we have ever received the previous month's numbers, so I'm seeing the work that they're
doing and it's definitely commended. However, I don't think they've had enough time to comb
through every account to see that there's money left over from previous years, and although I do
think that it's a modest increase, I -- right now I'm not ready to vote for any increase.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Mayor, you're recognized. That was easy.
Mayor Regalado: No. I -- you know, I sat there and I said the same. I believe that the City has
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responsibility. It's the three things that the City needs to do. Last year, we had a deadlock and
we did not raise the fee. This year, I told the Manager and I told each and every one of you that
I would not support and I would veto any increase beyond $400 because I think it's important
that we understand that we have, I think 69,000 -- we have 69,000 residentials [sic] and we have
them in every district, although some districts have more than that and some houses can afford
or not afford it. What we are proposing is a $30 increase that would mean $2 million
additionally for the Solid Waste Department. We believe that what we are doing at Virginia Key
-- and believe me, there is a major plan to utilize Virginia Beach, number one, to reduce the
tipping fees that we have now with the County, which takes the bulk of the Solid Waste budget. I
mean, we're paying like $9 million or $10 million for the tipping fee in the County. We believe
that we can reduce the tipping fee and we can make money at the Virginia Key facility. That
facility was underutilized for many, many years. As a Commissioner, I visited there many times
and I saw the potential, and we're doing things. We believe that we need to give people relief.
We have stated on the record that we will present you with a budget with no property tax
increase, no rollback because rollback is the trick, you know. People hear rollback and think,
oh, you're coming back. No, we're coming up because the rollback will give you last year the
same money, so we're being straight with the people. We are telling the people we are
committed not to raise taxes. We do believe that the 395 is something that people can afford.
And I understand, and I understand that nobody can afford $5 more, but -- and I understand --
and we've discussed this at length with the Chairman -- that he believe that this needs to be
more. Although, I told him well then, if the Commission were to go over 400, I will veto, but we
have to send the trim letter on July 1, so you guys going to have to come back on July 4, and I
guess you don't want to do that to -- on a special meeting. But I'm just -- I agree with you, both
of you. I sat there, I said the same. I believe that we didn't do it last year because of what
happened at the Commission level. It stayed the same. If we don't do nothing, it will stay the
same. I do believe that we can tell the people ofMiami that if we want to keep the same good
service that we have -- and remember, last year we discussed like going once a month. And
Marc, you did got [sic] the more e-mails (electronic) from your district, no, no, no, no, no.
People want to keep the same service. I -- trust me, all the members of the Commission, back
then we got thousands of phone calls and e-mails and faxes from people that were saying, no, no,
no, no, no, no, we want the same service. People are used to the same service. It's very unusual,
I mean, because the County pick ups twice a year, a year, and you have to pay for a special
pickup. And so we are the leading city in South Florida in terms of service, and I believe that the
public understand that $30 a year is something that -- it makes sense. So that's -- so I --
Chair Sarnoff I -- you're --
Mayor Regalado: -- my -- the thing --
Chair Sarnoff -- heard loud and clear.
Mayor Regalado: No, no. But the -- what came before you to say is that kept saying to the
Manager -- and trust me, they want to go overboard because they understand that the service
needs to be pay [sic] and we have equipment and all that to do. But kept telling them, more
than 400, I will veto and it will be complicated things to resolve.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to elaborate a little bit on what had
said previously and I appreciate the Mayor coming before us and stating those words. I think
there's mutual admiration both with myself Commissioner Suarez, the Mayor and so forth. And
I understand that it is definitely a modest increase. And I understand, as you all, I'm sure, know,
the financial situation that we're in. At the same time, you know, giving a couple examples of
what was stating before, you know, today we had a very -- what thought was a very good
debate with regards to, you know, the fees or the licenses. You know, one thing that noticed is
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that we were -- I don't want to say frying to mirror Hialeah with this, but that we were looking
very closely to how Hialeah was doing it. However, we were charging $500 per machine;
they're charging 600. So I'm saying, well, wait a second, you know. Well, why can't we charge
600 should it have passed, you know, when it was presented to us. And I'm not saying I'm in
favor of it or against it. I'm just saying well, why did we take a backseat? If they're charging
$600, why couldn't we have charged $600? Why couldn't we have, you know, charged $750?
And maybe that difference, you know, could have then replaced raising someone's garbage fees.
You know, we had a very hard decision that I voted for, you know, just Monday, you know, where
we used 400 million in general fund money, where I'm saying, hey, I mean -- and it was for a
very good cause. Again, I voted for it, you know, and I stated, you know, that, again, I grappled
with that. But again, that could have prevented from raising these garbage fees, so that is why I
stipulate right now I cannot support any increase because I think there may be other ways of
making up that money, and I heard the Mayor say that should we increase it to $30, it would be
a sum of $2 million. I thought it was actually less than that. I thought it was one point some --
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): One point seven.
Commissioner Gort: One point eight.
Chair Sarnoff One point seven.
Vice Chair Carollo: One point seven.
Mr. Migoya: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: So --
Mr. Carswell: If you compare the number of households in this roll, the 69,131 households. The
difference of $30, assuming that there were no additional households from the prior year, it
would be $2, 073, 000.
Mr. Migoya: Well -- yeah, he's right because the one seven that I have, some of that money,
some of the $2 million goes towards capital allocation. That's why the million seven is the
general fund piece, so he's right.
Vice Chair Carollo: Gotcha. And going in line with that, I would have liked to have been able
to study it a little bit more and see -- Listen, if you don't believe that my district is one of the
poorest, one of the most in need and so forth, just look at the CDBG (Community Development
Block Grant) funding. I mean, that outright tells you what districts are in most need.
Commissioner Dunn: The greatest need, yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: So I would have, again, prior to voting for any tax increase, liked to have
really been a little bit more educated on it and really seeing how many households it would
affect in my district, what areas it would affect. Because in all fairness, a lot of these elderly
people that, you know, don't have that much money or can't afford it, actually live in apartment
buildings that have their trash picked up in a different way. It'll be through a business. So, you
know, these are details that -- yes, you're right. Am I getting down to the details? Yes, I am. But
the truth of the matter is I think it's something that needs to be looked at and should have been
looked at in the past and so forth. And that's why at this point right now, I cannot vote for any
tax increase. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Chair Sarnoff By the way, the Vice Chair did not mean to say 400 million. He meant to say
400, 000.
Commissioner Suarez: Four hundred thousand, yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, 400, 000. I'm sorry.
Commissioner Suarez: Just two things. I don't want to restate my position, but we talk a lot
about best practices in terms of analyzing what decisions we make with reference to what other
people are doing. Sometimes the best practice is not to do what other governments are doing.
In other words, not to adopt things that other governments -- or not to use them as a model in
any way, shape or form for what we should be doing. That's kind of a little editorial, but we
have what we have now. Whatever the Commission decides is what it is. My question is, looking
-- moving forward and just kind of -- in terms of making this fee make any kind of sense for the
people who use our services in the City, one of the things that I suggested was potentially give
people the options -- kind of like a pick -a -pay, where they have the options, depending on the
services that they want and that the fee is based on those options. For example, I happen to be --
I happen to not have children and I don't accumulate a lot of garbage. So I may need -- you
know, it's true. I may not need to be -- my garbage to be picked up twice a week. Maybe I only
need it to be picked up once a week. And I may not need bulk pickup. I don't, in fact, need bulk
pickup once a week. I could probably do with bulk pickup, you know, once a month or once
every three weeks. So if you could give residents the ability to pick how much services they want
and you can computerize it, the fee would be more fairly -- would more fairly correlate with the
services that they need and people wouldn't be overpaying for services that they don't want. And
then at the same time, you can be delivering the services to those who want the two pickups a
week, that want the bulk once a week, and they can pay the full fee. So just a thought.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Let me see ifI can come up with a suggestion. My understanding is -- if
you can come up with the figures -- the ad valorem taxes are going to be lower, a lot of the
homes, if we can get that figure. At the same time, one of the reasons we were downgraded to
triple B because this Commission had stated that we will not raise taxes. And I believe that this
year and this year's ad valorem taxes are going to be lowered quite a bit so the residents are
going to pay a lot less than -- I would not -- I don't think you need to be passed today 'cause this
will be implement --
Chair Sarnoff We do.
Mr. Carswell: Yes, we do.
Chair Sarnoff We do.
Mayor Regalado: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: It has to be today?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah, July --
Mayor Regalado: Yes. Because --
Commissioner Dunn: July I.
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Mayor Regalado: -- if we don't act today, they have to send the trim on July 1 to the County,
and it will be the same price that -- last year. I mean, you have to vote down this in order for
them -- the frim be sent with the 365. If you do approve this, then you have the capability of
more --
Commissioner Gort: Of lowering it later on.
Mayor Regalado: -- discussion between 295 and 365.
Commissioner Gort: Gotcha.
Mayor Regalado: And then you can reduce it five, you can reduce it ten, but it has to be voted
today.
Commissioner Gort: Gotcha. Well, my understanding is is -- and like I said, I'm ready to vote
for it, but believe this Commission should have more information, especially on how much the
taxes are going to be lowered per household, if possible. And --
Mr. Migoya: We can provide you that, but here -- going to the Mayor's point again, the 395 is
not -- you're not voting on the actual increase today. You're voting on a cap of 395.
Chair Sarnoff Your maximum rate.
Commissioner Gort: Okay, gotcha.
Mr. Migoya: And then we will deal with this through the budget issue and so forth. So at that
point, you'll have the flexibility. During that period of time, we'll have all the details about all
the revenue sources --
Commissioner Gort: Gotcha.
Mr. Migoya: -- all the expense structure --
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Mr. Migoya: -- and exactly where we are.
Commissioner Gort: Okay, gotcha. So we're voting for the cap. We're not voting for increase at
this time.
Mr. Migoya: Right.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff I guess I get to go. Probably for the first -- not first time, but I'm actually sitting
up here with a very open mind. I've met with the Mayor many times. He sat on this Commission
numerous times when I advocated for a higher fee probably for two reasons, one which it was
[sic] always been my goal for the City of Miami to get into what is called "single -stream
recycling," which essentially means that we have the big bins like the County has. We were told
in those times that by going to single stream, we would reduce our garbage by 30 percent and
our -- and essentially, what that would do is reduce our tipping fees and would be a savings
overall. I was -- at that time I wasn't the green Commissioner, although I think I factually
thought I was. And I always wanted to get us to where we were recycling as much as possible.
So I think was even supportive of a fee as high as 450, maybe even $500 at the time 'cause I
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wanted to get us to a tipping -- to get rid of the tipping fee and get us to single -stream recycling.
Like Commissioner Suarez, I equally agree that the essential services of the City ofMiami should
be provided within the ad valorem. Now whether that's philosophically possible, it is a
philosophical statement that he makes that I actually agree with him upon. We don't have the
oh -should -I -need -a policeman fee. We don't -- we had the fire fee, which, for various reasons,
proved to be unconstitutional in one aspect. We have a garbage fee. I suspect it was done for
political -- politically motivated reasons because people did not want to increase mill rates and
increase taxes and instead, they charged fees. In the end of the day, as we all know as we walk
upon life and we start paying this toll, that toll, we go on I-95 to 836, by the end of the day, you
pocket's a little bit lighter and does it really matter -- all that matters is your pocket's a little bit
lighter. So I really do come up here with a very open mind. I do want to point a couple things
out 'cause I think it's valid, I think it's fair. For anyone who has multi units, more than four
units, in their district -- I happen to have Brickell, which is predominately and pervasive. I know
you have some in District 3. I know everybody does. Predominantly, you don't, Commissioner
Suarez. But your dad, for instance, lives in a high-rise and it's going to be fun. He pays
approximately -- almost $100 on a service he doesn't get. I joked with the Mayor yesterday, and
I said it was like the British. It was taxation without representation. And then he said the
Spaniards did the same thing in Cuba. So I said how do I phrase that? And he goes, "No, no.
The same way. It was the same issue." And it -- I find it ironic that there are people who pay for
a service that don't get it in the City ofMiami, but we do this: well, that might be the case. I
also equally know, being the good-natured guy that Commissioner Suarez is -- I'm not sure he's
got a garbage can, 'cause I know a neighbor of his needed a garbage can and the City ofMiami
didn't have any garbage cans, and he gave him his garbage can. And I'm going to check and see
how you put out your garbage. But --
Commissioner Gort: He uses the neighbor's.
Chair Sarnoff I think he does. I think he has a joint agreement and he might have something
there.
Commissioner Dunn: He doesn't have any kids.
Chair Sarnoff But the point is we're running a city on a very skeleton basis, and I don't know
that we have any exfra garbage cans to give out. And I remember before becoming
Commissioner, I said this. The only substantial change in my life as a resident of District 2, the
City ofMiami ever made was what I called the `green soldiers, " which were the garbage cans.
It actually changed my quality of life, the ability to wheel my frash out in a reasonable manner
and get a great deal of bulk in there. If you all remember, you had the metal garbage cans, and
then you had the plastic ones, and they broke. These things lasted better part of five years, but
we're at that five- to six year level, and I think we're going to be replacing a great many garbage
cans. So I sit here fully content on even doing away with the garbage fee. I sit here fully content
on leaving the garbage fee just where it is. And I sit here fully content understanding the Mayor
limiting this to $395 per resident, 'cause you can see there will never be a four fifths override on
this dais. And I'd like somebody to convince me of the right or wrong of this, because I sit here
representing Brickell fully well knowing that former Mayor Suarez is paying $100 that he doesn't
get, as do about 24,000 residents, and it will be up to 70,000 residents by the time this is all said
and done in my district that will be paying a fee that they don't get that service. And whether it
was the British or the Spanish, I think that was wrong. So I'm here to be convinced, gentlemen --
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff -- 'cause I suspect I'm the swing vote. You're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Dunn: Given the financial crises that we're in, I believe anything that could
alleviate some of that pain in that deficit is a plus. It is still open. The verdict is still out that --
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you know, it's -- the cap is 395, but it gives -- at least it gives the Manager and the -- and all of
who will be making the decision, including ourselves, the ability to revisit some of the
suggestions, even that my colleague, Commissioner Suarez. And I'm -- I believe there should be
a -- I don't know how it can be done or achieved -- diversity of services offered to those specific
needs, but at least for right now, given the time constraints that we're facing, I would rather have
something in place. It's -- what is the old adage? It's better to have it and not need it than to
need it and not have it, and so that's where I'm at. And I'll give you one more. It's better to be
pennywise than pound-foolish.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Mayor Regalado: IfI --
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Sure.
Mayor Regalado: Well, I don't live in Brickell and yet, I'm paying for a service that I'm not
getting. I'm paying a third of my taxes to the School Board. I'm paying the Children [sic] Trust.
I'm paying South Florida Water Management because that's the way it is. I -- we don't have
children in the house now; we did. But -- and everybody does. I'm -- I mean, it's something that
is part of the way of the United States. I could also --
Chair Sarnoff It's the --
Mayor Regalado: -- claim taxation without representation and renounce the School Board or
something, which, by the way, they don't take homestead exemption. But I just think -- and I
know how important the Chairman is in this now because he's the swing vote. But whatever we
do, we have to leave in a few minutes to the session either with a cap of 395 or a cap of 365.
There's no other alternative other than that. So it's either -- because we do need to send the trim
to the County and we have to do it next week.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, I'm not here to persuade you one way or another. I stipulated my
reasons. I stipulated what I was going to do. And like I said, at this point in time I wasn't ready
for any tax increases. So I'm not here to persuade you. However, I do want to bring a point sort
of in line with what Commissioner Suarez said, and it's on a side note; and I won't, you know,
just derail everything, but is there a possibility -- and I was speaking to one of my constituents
the other day and he mentioned this -- that on the tax notices, just like in the IRS (Internal
Revenue Service) 1040 Forms, there's a little box there that says if you want to contribute $3 to
the presidential campaign or so forth. Is it possible, realistically, to have a little box there that
says "If you'd like to contribute an additional $20 to the City ofMiami" and so forth? I mean, I
think some people --
Mayor Regalado: Nobody.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, you never know, Mr. Mayor, until you try. So that's just a suggestion
that I'm just putting out there.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
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Chair Sarnoff You're recognized, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I want to make sure we all understand what we're doing today. We're
voting on a cap, and I want to make sure that the press (UNINTELLIGIBLE) correctly; that
don't want them to come out tomorrow "Oh, we're going to increase $30." I want to make sure
this is a cap, and I requested that the Administration look at the -- how much is going to be the
lower tax and how much we're going to be able to lower the taxes on the residential at this time.
And at the end, we all might vote not to increase at all. I just want you to understand that.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Suarez -- Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I feel like I'm trying to convince my prom date here to -- you know, the
way that the City was going was we had a fire -rescue fee, a fee that was supposed to pay for our
fire services; we have a garbage fee; the next thing that was -- would have come down the
pipeline is a police fee. So in other words, now we have a fee, in addition to taxes, for the basic
services that we utilize in the City ofMiami. The Court struck down the fire -rescue fee. Not even
going to get into what they would do with the garbage fee, but if it would -- you know, what's the
point? What's the point -- what are we taxing people for then if we have a, you know, fire fee,
and we have a garbage fee, and then we have a police fee? You know, why are we paying taxes?
Where is that money going? What is it paying for? And I think that's the philosophical issue
that have. I mean, I understand all the other points that were made. I would -- you know, I
really feel strongly about this, and I would go as far as to make a motion that the fee be reduced
to zero right here, right now. So -- I mean, that's how strongly I feel about it. And you know, we
talk a lot about -- you know, we talk a lot about generating income and generating income and
generating income through all of these sources, but we're not talking enough about cutting
expenses and cutting expenses and cutting expenses. And I don't know if the dialogue is heading
in the direction that think is in the best interest for the City, so that's my final --
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, one last --
Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: I -- again, I appreciate the healthy dialogue. I think this is -- and debate.
I think we're going to have to, as a Commission, come to grips with the fact that in order to
maintain the level of services or even increase the level of services, it's almost impossible to do
some of these kinds of things without some type of fee increase. It's just -- it's -- the two just
don't, to me, go together to be able -- you want to increase or maintain particularly when you
look at the fact that we are the lowest in the South Florida area, but believe we provide the best
services. We do know, in terms of regularity -- I witness this every -- we pick up on Mondays and
Thursdays; the County picks up on Tuesdays and Fridays. I see it everyday for the last 15 years
where I reside. I just believe that we have to come to grips that we cannot expect to maintain the
level of services at zero cost. The beauty I believe of this item is the verdict will not -- we're not
making a final decision today. We could very well decide -- the Administration could very well
decide, we as Commissioners could very well decide, as Commissioner Gort stated earlier, that
we will not increase, but at least we will be in a position to add on -- it may not be 395. It may
be more minimal than that because -- I like your suggestions, Commissioner Suarez. I really do.
But we will lock ourselves in and we will be boxed out if we make, in my opinion, no decision
today or leave it as is.
Chair Sarnoff All right, let's -- I'm going to make a couple of statements and then I'm going to
ask you a question. One, I happen to agree, there's no city that have ever seen that I'd want to
emulate. I have studied the best practices of every city, except for a few of the smaller ones that
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make some very tough decisions. There's no large city that is a business model for how to get
something done. New York City's in dire straits; Los Angeles, California, is in dire straits;
Chicago, but for the fact it sold every one of its parking spaces, would be in dire straits. The
only city, interestingly enough, Commissioner Dunn, that has done a half -way decent job
because you had a visionary mayor, eight years ago saw this whole calamity coming, is Atlanta.
But Atlanta equally has the second largest airport in America that has revenues that drive it in a
place that we would never be. So there's no city in America -- I happen to agree with
Commissioner Suarez -- that want to emulate. As a private sector person, I ask myself so how
has the cost of living increased in the past three years. And guess what? It has not at all. The
cost of living has receded the better part of 25 percent, if you consider housing. If you don't
want to consider housing, it's down to about 11 percent. So why is it things continue to cost
more money each year in the City ofMiami when, I think we learned, the average citizen has lost
27 percent of his income but not a City ofMiami employee? No. Those sacred cows don't lose
that type of money. So it is a revenue -driven issue and it is an expense -driven issue. The Mayor
has one true function in the City ofMiami, and he's fulfilling that function. He is setting the
budget. He has full-time staff full-time people. He has a Manager that no other Mayor has ever
had before to do this. So I want to give a lot of deference to him doing his most important
function for the City ofMiami. He's determining what this budget should look like, and he's
giving us then the opportunity -- and you'll see what it's like come September -- to fiddle with his
budget. But he is going to present a budget to us that is going to determine what the City of
Miami will or will not look like. Now I equally, Commissioner Dunn, have a district called
Coconut Grove that is essential that it get a trash pick-up two times a month -- two times a week.
I'm sorry, once a week for the heavy trash. We even debated going to twice a month. You will
have a rat problem in Coconut Grove because of the vegetation. You will have a -- because of
the fruits and whatnot. What I'm going to ask this Commission to do is -- we're going to go to an
executive session in a -- probably in the next minute or two. I'd like to table this and hear what
is said at the executive session, 'cause I think that will affect what I'm going to do from a
philosophic standpoint, whether it should remain at 365, whether I would second Commissioner
Suarez's motion to do away with the fire [sic] fee, or whether Igo with whatl think the Mayor
has the absolute right and obligation to do and that is tell us this is the cap I want you to
consider. But I'd like to hear what's said at the executive session --
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff -- without repeating it, of course.
Ms. Chiaro: Your executive sessions, as schedules [sic], relate to the negotiation for the union
contracts --
Chair Sarnoff Right.
Ms. Chiaro: -- and --
Chair Sarnoff I know what we do up there.
Ms. Chiaro: Okay. I just wanted to make --
Chair Sarnoff I listen.
Ms. Chiaro: -- sure there wasn't any implication that this item in particular was going to be
discussed at the executive session.
Chair Sarnoff No, no, no, no. It -- my understanding is the way governments work is there's
expenses and there's revenues. I'm about to hear the expenses, and --
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Ms. Chiaro: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff -- I'm about to hear and see how they look.
Ms. Chiaro: All right.
Chair Sarnoff So if you all don't mind tabling this till the afternoon session?
Ms. Thompson: Chair, ifI might ask one question because I need clarity. I thought I heard
Commissioner Suarez said [sic] that he would be prepared to make a motion. I did not hear him
make a motion. So I don't want your record to be off --
Commissioner Suarez: The thing is that there's already a motion already on the table.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right, there's a motion on the -- and a second.
Ms. Thompson: Yes, there is, there is.
Commissioner Suarez: Right, right. So --
Vice Chair Carollo: And Commissioner Suarez didn't make a motion. He said he will be
prepared, but he did not make the motion.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. I just want that clarification.
Chair Sarnoff All right. So is everybody okay with just tabling this, and we'll come back to this
first thing? All right.
Vice Chair Carollo: We come back at 3?
Chair Sarnoff Well come back at 3 o'clock.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Ms. Chiaro: Wait.
Ms. Thompson: We have an advertised executive --
Ms. Chiaro: Executive session at -- at 2.
Ms. Thompson: -- for 2 o'clock as well, so you actually have two --
Ms. Chiaro: Executive sessions.
Ms. Thompson: -- executive sessions, one is for your labor and one is for a settlement issue.
Ms. Chiaro: You have the shade meeting scheduled --
Chair Sarnoff Shade meeting, right.
Ms. Chiaro: -- at 2 o'clock and then you have a --
Chair Sarnoff We could still be back at 3. We'll be back at 3. Go ahead. You need something?
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We're still here. What do you need? We need to open up --
Ms. Thompson: Yeah. I need some -- I'm sorry. And you know --
Chair Sarnoff All right, gentlemen, stay where you are.
Ms. Thompson: -- I'm the one --
Chair Sarnoff Everybody stop, stop, stop, stop. She's going to make announcement, I believe.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. And here's your ant at the picnic, as usual. I need some clarification
because you're advertised for 2. So are you now saying that you're making a note for the record
that you will be back at 3 --?
Chair Sarnoff We'll be back at the regular Commission meeting at 3, but do we need to come
down here, is that what you're saying, and --?
Ms. Thompson: Oh, yeah, you have to come here before you go into your second executive
session that was stated for 2 o'clock. Yes, you must come back here.
Commissioner Gort: At 3 o'clock we have to come down.
Chair Sarnoff Right. Do we need -- we need --
Commissioner Gort: Two of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Chair Sarnoff -- just a quorum to do that?
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry?
Ms. Chiaro: Yes, you do.
Ms. Thompson: Oh, yes, definitely.
Ms. Chiaro: Yes, you do.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Thompson: Definitely.
Chair Sarnoff All right. So what do we need right now to move to executive session?
Ms. Thompson: What hear you saying is -- you're actually taking a recess right now because
you have an executive session for your labor. After you do that -- when you finish that, you will
come back here, okay. You will then reopen your meeting --
Chair Sarnoff For --
Ms. Thompson: -- go into your -- go into another executive session, recess, go to that session,
come back and open again.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: So we're --
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Chair Sarnoff So 2 o'clock you expect us to be down here with at least two Commissioners to do
-- well, two other Commissioners, three in total, to open up an executive session again?
Ms. Thompson: Correct.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
RE.7 RESOLUTION
10-00744
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
USE OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY SLIP AND A PORTION
OF BICENTENNIAL PARK BY TEAM MIAMI, LLC, FOR THE VOLVO
OCEAN RACE 2012, FOR THE APPROXIMATE DATES OF APRIL 22,
2012 THROUGH MAY 25, 2012; WITH AN AGREEMENT TO BE
BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL;
AUTHORIZING THE BAYFRONT PARK MANAGEMENT TRUST TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATION OF SAID AGREEMENT.
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10-00744 Cover Memo.pdf
10-00744 Map.pdf
SPONSOR:CHAIRMAN SARNOFF
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0270
Chair Sarnoff All right. If you want to get that -- let me just go to RE.7. Again, that was a
10:28 time certain. Just so you know, we're right on schedule in this Commission. RE.7,
gentlemen, is on page 15 of your agenda, and that is a resolution authorizing the use of the
Florida East Coast rail slip and a portion of Bicentennial Park by Team Miami, LLC (Limited
Liability Company). I think you all have seen this once before for the Ocean Race Volvo 2012.
You have a packet, I think, in each one of your agendas.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized --
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Sarnoff -- for the record, the Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: I move it with a friendly amendment.
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: My friendly amendment is, as you all know, the Bayfront Park Management
Trust is the one who manages Bicentennial Park, so my amendment is that the Bayfront Park
Management Trust does participate in the negotiations, maybe the executive director, Tim
Schmand, so then it'll go to the Bayfront Park Management Trust. So my amendment is to make
sure that the Bayfront Park Management Trust is included in the, you know -- you know, is
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RE.8
10-00746
Office of the City
Attorney
Votes:
included, representing as part of the negotiations.
Chair Sarnoff I think that's --
Commissioner Suarez: Seconded as amended.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion by the Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Suarez,
as amended. Any further discussion, gentlemen? Hearing none, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING
THE EXPENDITURE OF ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS, IN AN
AMOUNT APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR THE
ENGAGEMENT OF THE LAW FIRM OF COLE, SCOTT & KISSANE, FOR
REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI IN THE CASE OF HELENE
HUTT, ETC. V. CITY OF MIAMI, ETC., IN THE UNITED STATES
DISTRICT COURT, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, CASE NO.:
10-21451-CIV-MARTINEZ-BROWN, PLUS ANY COSTS OF LITIGATION,
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, RETENTION OF EXPERTS AND
CONSULTANTS, AS APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY;
ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR SAID PURPOSE FROM ACCOUNT NO.
00001.131000.531010.0000.00000.
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Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0278
Chair Sarnoff All right, we are on now RE.8.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): RE.8 is a resolution offered by the Office of the City
Attorney to retain Cole, Scott & Kissane to represent the City in conjunction with personnel from
the CityAttorney's Office in the case of Helene Hutt versus the City ofMiami. That is a case
related to an allegation on the sale of bonds that the City put out in previous years. We will be
working with counsel for the City, who are helping the City with the investigation from the
Securities and Exchange Commission. This is for -- the retention requested in this resolution is
for representation on this particular class action lawsuit.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Let me open up to a public hearing. Does anybody wish to be heard
on RE.8, which is Cole, Scott & Kissane being the recommended engagement of a law firm in
regards to the Helene Hutt versus City ofMiami class action lawsuit? Mr. Cruz, you're
recognized for the record.
Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 26th Street. And, you know, the time we are asking to cut
expenses, unions to cut salaries and pensions and the whole thing, I see -- I don't know how
many -- how much we spending in outside counsel, 'cause I see here a lot of pending suits, Jorge
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Fernandez, this guy Michael Boudreaux, andAluko, and all the others were here and
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) and executive sessions. I don't know how much does this cost -- costing the
City. You know, we talking less -- I don't -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE) with me --
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) I know it's good the lawyers have to make a living, but they don't get paid
living wages or minimum salaries, you know. That's all want to say. Please, you are there to
watch out for the interest of the City ofMiami, not for the interest of the lawyers. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Are you recommending we don't hire this firm?
Mr. Cruz: We don't have enough attorneys there, or we just need to hire an administrator?
Chair Sarnoff What if the City Attorney were to tell you that this is a specialized area --?
Mr. Cruz: Well, then, I -- fine, you told me that. Then we -- only thing we need is an
administrator to say we litigate this. We settle this out of court. Then you have a pool of lawyers
with different expertise all these things, expert in tax law, this -- whatever, and then we use it
from that pool.
Chair Sarnoff So if this law firm knew class action and we didn't have that expertise, you'd rec -
_?
Mr. Cruz: Oh, no. Okay, that's fine.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Just --
Mr. Cruz: But count all the money we're spending in -- look at the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) case,
the fire inspector; half a million dollars, okay. And now the City's appealing with outside
counsel. And anyway, probably we have to pay that, the half a million, plus the cost of the law
too -- legal (UNINTELLIGIBLE) whatever you (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Cruz: Half a million dollars (UNINTELLIGIBLE) a case that was -- and you know what it
was, retaliation to the lady (UNINTELLIGIBLE) problem there, Ms. (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Thank God, she was three times in front of the Civil Service also. I know that case.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. All right. Anybody else wishing to be heard on the retention of law
firm of Cole, Scott & Kissane in the Helene Hutt case? Hearing none, seeing none, coming back
to this Comm -- the City -- I'm sorry; the public hearing is now closed, coming back to this
Commission. Do we have a motion?
Commissioner Gort: I move it.
Chair Sarnoff Motion by Commissioner Gort --
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Chair Sarnoff -- second by Commissioner Dunn. Discussion.
Commissioner Gort: I'd like to ask -- Mr. Chairman, you being an attorney -- that you explain
the reason why we hiring this individual, 'cause I think it's important for the people to
understand.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. That's a fair statement. Helene Hutt is a City ofMiami resident who is
suing and attempting to become part of a class of people who are claiming that as a result of the
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nondisclosure of the City ofMiami's -- the alleged nondisclosure of the City ofMiami's financial
condition, somehow she would have received a higher rate on her bond because it would have
reflected the City ofMiami's health and condition not being to the extent that she is paying -- is
being paid a certain amount of rate on the bond that she took. I -- you know, Cole, Scott &
Kissane are probably experts at litigating federal issues. Cole, Scott & Kissane, in conjunction
with our SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) counsel, I think the City Attorney made an
excellent choice in addressing Judge Martinez and Magistrate Brown in the federal litigation.
And I think they will be able to short-circuit this case very quickly 'cause -- I saw your
expression, Commissioner Gort. I don't think she's incurred damages. I think it's highly
speculative, and I don't think they're going to have much success. But the reason we're hiring
this firm is because of their expertise in federal court. All right.
Ms. Chiaro: Mr. Chair, ifI might add?
Chair Sarnoff Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: And it is particularly the expertise as relates to securities, fraud litigation, because
we handle the other cases in our office in federal court, but it is this particular area of the law
that requires that expertise.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Sarnoff Do you handle class actions?
Ms. Chiaro: Have handled class actions.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Chiaro: It's more directed towards --
Chair Sarnoff To the SEC?
Ms. Chiaro: -- the Securities -- yes.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah. This is different.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead. You're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: I've been kind of the stickler here on the dais about outside counsel fees,
and I have to say that the fee schedule that saw was incredibly low. That $300 for a partner is
what you would pay an associate at a big law firm. So that may not mean a lot to the general
public, but can tell you that that's half or better than what a big firm would normally charge.
So we're getting a great deal. What concerns me sometimes is the total amount, not so much the
hourly amount. And I don't know what we can do as a body to put limitations or -- maybe
monthly limitations or -- you know, there's got to be a way for us to control the outside cost
there.
Ms. Chiaro: When we negotiated the cost that -- the fees for this case, we asked for a budget to
handle the case, and so we have a breakdown at each step along the way of the lawsuit, but we'll
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be happy to keep you informed on a monthly basis on how we are spending the money on this
particular case. And I think we do that on any other case that we have related to retention of
outside counsel.
Commissioner Suarez: I don't want to speak -- Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Chair Sarnoff Oh, please, continue.
Commissioner Suarez: I don't want to speak for any of the other Commissioners, but I think it's
a good idea in the future to get that information as well, not only to have the hourly rate but to
have what you just mentioned, which is kind of an estimate of --
Commissioner Gort: That is a good idea.
Commissioner Suarez: -- all the stages of the -- so we can have an idea as to the total cost and
the total cost as we go along on each stage. So if -- I think for the next -- you know, if there is a
next time -- hopefully, there won't be a next time, but if there is a next time, you know, then we
can do it that way.
Chair Sarnoff All right. We have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion?
Hearing no discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RE.9 RESOLUTION
10-00720
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Capital ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
Improvements AMENDMENT NO. 3 TO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK
Program AGREEMENT WITH SUFFOLK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC.,
HEREINAFTER THE "GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT", FOR
THE STADIUM SITE PARKING PROJECT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF ESTABLISHING A
GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE ("GMP"), OWNER CONTINGENCY,
OWNER ALLOWANCES, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER'S FEE, AND
GENERAL CONDITION EXPENSES; PROVIDING FOR A SUBSTANTIAL
COMPETION DATE, INCREASING THE COMMUNITY SMALL BUSINESS
ENTERPRISE ("CSBE") PARTICIPATION GOAL, AUTHORIZING CSBE
INCENTIVE PAYMENTS, MODIFYING CONTIGENCY DISTRIBUTIONS, AND
OTHER ACTIONS; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A
COMMUNITY WORKFORCE PROGRAM ("CWP") INCENTIVE PAYMENT, IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000, WHICH INCENTIVE PAYMENT
WILL NOT CAUSE AN INCREASE IN THE GMP, AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO
THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT WITH NO
FURTHER CITY COMMISSION ACTION EMBODYING THE CWP INCENTIVE
PAYMENT; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE SALE OF SPECIAL
OBLIGATION PARKING REVENUE BONDS.
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10-00720 Exhibit SUB.pdf
10-00720 Summary Form.pdf
10-00720 Section 2.pdf
10-00720 Text File Reports.pdf
10-00720-Submittal-Memo-City Manager -Substitution for RE.9.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0271
Chair Sarnoff And I think -- is there another time certain? Yeah. I did (UNINTELLIGIBLE),
10:33. We're right on schedule once again. RE.9, RE.10, RE.11.
Commissioner Dunn: RE.9?
Chair Sarnoff RE.9, RE.10, RE.11. We are on page 16 of our agenda.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir.
Commissioner Dunn: I would like to move this item for an -- with an amendment.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Commissioner Dunn: RE.9?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. Let me get there myself. RE.9. Let's have Department of Capital
Improvement [sic] put something on the record. You are recognized, once again, for the record.
Alice Bravo (Director, Capital Improvements): Good morning. RE.9 --
Chair Sarnoff Name.
Ms. Bravo: Alice Bravo, CIP (Capital Improvements Program) director, City ofMiami. This is
an amendment to our agreement with Suffolk Construction Company, our construction manager
at -risk for the stadium parking garages, and this authorizes several modifications to our
agreement for cost -savings and incentives.
Chair Sarnoff Can -- Mr. -- Madam Clerk, can we open up RE.9, 10 and 11 simultaneous so
that the testimony and record would reflect all three motions -- all three --?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): As long as you state it on the record as such, but we will
have to take each vote individually.
Chair Sarnoff I understand. Gentlemen, if you wish to address any aspect-- maybe what I'll let
them do is present because I think some of your motions may pertain to different aspects of it.
Would you also present on 10? Would you also present on 11? We'll take them individually, but
this way, the record would be pertinent to all three.
Larry Spring: Commissioners, Larry Spring, chief financial officer. RE.10 is a resolution of the
City -- Miami City Commission, with attachments, supplementing and amending resolution
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number R-09-0509, adopted in October 22, 2009, to provide for the issuance of and not to
exceed 20 million in aggregate principal amount of City ofMiami, Florida special obligation
parking revenue bond anticipation notes. For supplemental information for the record, this --
we need to put a few things on the record with regards to this item. The total amount that the
City will be allowed to draw down on this bridge loan has been reduced by the bank from 20
million to 15 million. The security for the bridge loan should include as pledge funds all of the
same security as for the proposed parking bond, including funds resulting from the City's
covenant to budget and appropriate, meaning the CDT (Convention Development Tax) parking
revenues, parking surcharge, and the -- all monies, including non ad valorem revenues resulting
from the covenant to budget and appropriate. Redemption notice should be given at least 15
calendar days before the proposed redemption date as opposed to 30 days that was previously in
the document. The interest on the bridge loan should be calculated upon a actual 365-day basis
instead of the 360-day basis. No draw down shall be requested after January 1, 2011, as
opposed to January -- excuse me, June 1, 2011, i.e., the draw down should be completed within
the first six months of the note. There will be no resale of the bridge loan. The bridge note --
Merrill Lynch will hold this note throughout the entire loan period, which is up to one year or
early redemption or repayment. And other interest -- other than interest on the loan, there is no
fees or expenses ofMerrill Lynch for the bridge loan. Those are the clarifications that I needed
to add to the record.
Chair Sarnoff I think you should say that one more time.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. Can I --? I was going to --
Chair Sarnoff I think that's a little bit of good news.
Mr. Spring: Oh, the last one? Other than the interest rate on the loan, there are no fees or
expenses ofMerrill Lynch for the bridge loan.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may? I just want to --
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. I really want to salute you both, the Manager and Mr.
Springs [sic] for there not to be any closing costs, in essence, and also, the bridge loan is
actually at a better rate than the bonding -- than what it looks like we're going to have to pay on
our bond, which is usually the opposite. Usually, when you do a bridge loan, because you're
getting from one place to the other and because it's a short-term loan, it's usually at a higher
rate. So -- I mean, I salute you for this. And it just -- it goes to show that, you know, you guys
are putting in some incredible work and effort into this. Thank you so much.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. --
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort and then Commissioner -- and then the Vice Chair.
Commissioner Gort: I agree with the -- Commissioner Suarez. But I'll salute you even more if
you can get Merrill Lynch to drop it even a little bit more. I mean --
Mr. Spring: I did call the bank this morning. I spoke to our main banker and they will post up
to their credit committee the opportunity for them to reduce this. I would like to put on the
record, however, they -- because they are holding the note, it's not a traditional re -marketable
piece of credit.
Commissioner Gort: I understand. We're the bad guy; you're the good guy.
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Mr. Spring: But we did ask and, you know, we'll -- obviously, they couldn't answer before the
meeting today --
Commissioner Gort: I understand.
Mr. Spring: -- but the question is out there, so --
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Spring: -- perhaps it's (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Vice Chair.
Mr. Migoya: IfI may? Just -- oh, I'm sorry, Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: I just want --
Chair Sarnoff I don't want to ask him to yield to you, so I'm going to let the Vice Chair speak.
I'll come back to you.
Vice Chair Carollo: It won't take long. I just wanted to throw some kudos out there to you. And
that's what happens when you have a City Manager who's a banker or former banker so --
finance guy. So, you know, once again, kudos out there. I -- you know, great job.
Mr. Migoya: It's really -- I hate to admit it 'cause their parent company is someone I'm not
really a fan of but Merrill Lynch has really done a great job of coming up with a great structure
for us. And a bridge loan of this type, which is really six months or less, even at the 4 percent --
obviously, I understand a normal BAN (Bond Anticipation Note) would be a different deal. It's
not something that they make money on at this point in time because of all the work that it has to
go through to make this happen. So we really appreciate the efforts that they've put together in
putting this together and in a very short period of time, so we appreciate what they've done as
well.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Let me go to Commissioner Dunn. I'll come back to you.
Commissioner Dunn: I don't want to sound redundant, but I also want to thank you. When it
was explained to me that this pretty much is a harmless loan -- bridge loan that's presented to us
that will provide somewhat of a safety net for us. Also, that Merrill Lynch, it behooves them to
try -- they want to see the bonds go to sell because it's to their advantage. Could you just kind of
elaborate just on that last piece there, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Migoya: They are -- Merrill Lynch is the marketer of the bonds, so therefore, the people that
can do this the best, because they will control the sale of the bonds, will be them. So being able
to do the bond anticipation note, the BAN or the bridge loan, or whatever you want to call it, but
giving us the $15 million, would be them because, obviously, as they do the sale themselves,
they'll be able to pay themselves back on that $15 million. So it's -- it was a -- we had talked to a
couple of different people, but at the end of the day, Merrill would be the right one, and they had
us over a barrel and they didn't take advantage of it. They actually did a nice job of coming up
with a really decent transaction.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Suarez.
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Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. One thing that also wasn't mentioned that I wanted to put on
the record 'cause it indicates your hard work and the deal that you negotiated on behalf of the
City is that there's also no prepayment penalty. So we don't have to hold -- you know, we don't
have to pay all the interest for the six months. They could have said, look, if you're going to do it
-- we're going to give you a bridge loan, you pay all the interest for the six months at any
moment as a penalty if you don't, you know, hold the loan for the entire amount and then we also
get the interest on the new, you know, loan, on the bonds, in essence. So it's just another
sweetener that wasn't mentioned and I wanted to put it on the record because it indicates what a
good deal you did for us. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Vice Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One last thing that I did want to indicate that,
you know, it shows faith. 'Cause I mean, in all fairness, ifMerrill Lynch right now wants to --
with the -- you know, with the deal that they're putting together, I mean, in all fairness, if they
want to issue $15 million to us, I think indirectly that lets everybody know, you know, the trust
they have in us and so forth and, you know, we are doing it correctly. We are -- you know, we're
being cautious, but we are doing it correctly. And this -- you know, this is all going to happen,
and you know, once again, it's the faith they have in us. So I think it speaks volumes.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, I have to say this. Mr. Springs [sic], you better have your
seat while you're ahead.
Mr. Spring: I've still got to present one more item.
Chair Sarnoff Right now we're on RE.9, RE.10. We'll take RE.11 separately. It is a little bit of
a distinction. Madam City Attorney, I have to make a disclosure and ask if there's a conflict for
me to vote. I am an owner of Bank ofAmerica shares.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Unless your proportion of Bank ofAmerica shares
exceed 5 percent of the --
Chair Sarnoff I don't harbor as much as the City Manager.
Ms. Chiaro: As described previously, you do not have a conflict --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Chiaro: -- a voting conflict on this matter.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. All right. Gentlemen, we've heard enough on RE.9.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion?
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: So moved.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Chair Sarnoff I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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Ms. Thompson: IfI might. You already had a mover on RE.9, which was --
Chair Sarnoff Oh, I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: -- Commissioner --
Chair Sarnoff I didn't remember. Okay. Sorry.
Commissioner Dunn: No problem.
Ms. Thompson: However, if-- I need to further clear your record up for you. I have in my
possession an amendment to RE.9, which wasn't -- I did not hear stated on the record --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Ms. Thompson: -- so I want to make sure that we're there with that one. And we do have stated
on the record the -- an amendment by Mr. Spring on RE.10.
Chair Sarnoff Can somebody put what the amendment is on the record?
Ms. Thompson: For RE.9, that is.
Chair Sarnoff RE.9. I'm sorry, RE.9. Can somebody please from the Administration or is [sic]
Commissioners aware of it?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead. You're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. Again, I want to commend the City Manager for building an
incentive into the contract for the use of local small businesses, butt would like to submit an
amendment to this resolution that would give the City Manager the authority to negotiate a
similar incentive for the CWP requirements of the contract so long as the GMP, guaranteed
maximum price, is not exceeded. So if Suffolk exceeds the 35 percent City goal, then the
incentive will kick in. And that's really to really bring to bear the emphasis on the jobs
perspective.
Chair Sarnoff Can somebody help me with that some --
Commissioner Gort: My understanding, the figures are --
Chair Sarnoff -- because I'm not sure I follow it?
Ms. Bravo: Well, the current language of the agreement provides that 50 percent of the workers
on the project should meet the County's criteria for community workforce development, and of
that 50 percent number, 35 percent should be City ofMiami employees.
Chair Sarnoff And that was -- wasn't that already in the --? I thought that was --
Ms. Bravo: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff -- in the agreement.
Ms. Bravo: That's already in the agreement.
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Chair Sarnoff So how are we amending that?
Ms. Bravo: Well, I think that's the Commissioner's proposal, to provide an incentive for them to
exceed --
Commissioner Dunn: If they exceed.
Ms. Bravo: -- the 35 percent City ofMiami requirement.
Chair Sarnoff And how do we incentivize them to do that?
Mr. Migoya: IfI may. 'Cause they're asking us to negotiate this. Am I to understand -- 'cause
the goal is to be at 35 percent, and so that we're not -- and what we did in the CSBE (Community
Small Business Enterprise) one, which was a lower number, we gave them an incentive starting
at 30 percent going higher. So what you're saying is if they get beyond 35 percent, that we work
out some kind of schedule that as they go up higher, we can incentivize them up to $50, 000 as
long as the GMP is not exceeded. Is that what I understand?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff What --
Commissioner Gort: But --
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead.
Commissioner Gort: I thought it was up to $100, 000 if they get to a certain level.
Ms. Bravo: Well, the CSBE amendment to the existing agreement would provide that the CSBE
participation goal would be 26 percent, and if they reach 30 percent CSBE participation, then
they would receive an additional incentive of $20, 000. Every 1 percent additional incentive that
they receive would increase that incentive by $10, 000 up to a cap of 100,000 if they reach 40
percent CSBE participation, so long as the GMP is not increased.
Mr. Migoya: I think it's 38 percent, but that's okay.
Ms. Bravo: Thirty-eight percent.
Chair Sarnoff Then let me ask you because -- let me be the Vice Chair for a second. If what
was just handed to me says not to exceed 50,000, are you verbally amending this on the --?
Ms. Bravo: Well --
Mr. Migoya: This is an amendment that was just brought up to me today, in which I will be okay
with if we want to do this, but it's up to you guys. I think what we're trying to amend is for
allowance up to $50, 000 and for me to negotiate something similar to what we did on the CSBE
to fry to get the 35 percent number and going north of that number.
Ms. Bravo: The original amendment today is to provide additional incentive for CSBE, and the
Commissioner's proposing a similar structure to provide additional incentive for community
workforce.
Chair Sarnoff My only --I like to know, especially on Marlins stadium, what I'm voting on.
You all weren't here for this. And I just need to know dead pan, dead straight what I'm voting for
it, and while I frust this City Manager, who knows what the next one's going to be about. I just
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want to understand exactly what it is we're voting for. The money that you're saying that you
anticipate could be saved, you're going to throw it back as an incentive to the contractor, I guess
Suffolk, to exceed 35 percent of the workforce being the City ofMiami?
Mr. Migoya: No. The $100, 000 incentive that we currently have is coming from the owner's
contingency.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Migoya: And so if we were to do this $50, 000, it would also come from the owner's
contingency. The 60/40 split has not anything to do with the owner's contingency. It has to do
with the contractor's contingency, which at this point is a million eight fifty. And what we said
is, on the hard costs, which is $67 million, instead of just allowing them to split 60/40, if they
come in at $65 million, which is $3 million a share, then, you know, they should be entitled to an
incentive for doing that, just like we would be, and it would be a 60/40 split of the difference of
whatever that savings would be within the $67 million number. I believe it's 67, right, Robert?
What's the --? The hard cost is 67?
Commissioner Gort: It's 60/40.
Mr. Migoya: Sixty million? Whatever the -- 60 million -- hard costs line items are.
Chair Sarnoff Well, see, I'm not even sure you know what we're doing.
Mr. Migoya: No, no. I know the line item.
Chair Sarnoff Can Robert Fenton come up and address the Commission?
Robert Fenton: Robert Fenton, City ofMiami, project manager for the parking garage project.
Our cost for the -- on the GMP is in the neighborhood of 60 million. The rest of --
Chair Sarnoff Six --
Mr. Fenton: Sixty million. That's the hard costs. The rest of the items going after the 73 include
the contractor's soft costs, owner's contingency, owner's -- there's an owner contingency.
There's also -- I'm sorry. John, you want to come up and --?
Chair Sarnoff While you're waiting on that person, I -- let me ask you, is the owner supportive
of this because you're invading his contingency?
Mr. Fenton: If the owner's in agreement with this?
Chair Sarnoff Yes.
Mr. Fenton: Absolutely, sir. Yeah, we are in agreement. We've built in an owner's --
Mr. Migoya: I think we're the owners.
Mr. Fenton: contingency --
Chair Sarnoff So we're -- you're not talking about the Marlins' contingency. You're talking --
Mr. Fenton: No, no.
Mr. Migoya: No. We're talking --
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Chair Sarnoff -- about --
Mr. Migoya: -- about the garage.
Chair Sarnoff -- our contingency.
Mr. Migoya: Our contingency.
Mr. Fenton: Absolutely.
Chair Sarnoff But doesn't a contingency -- isn't it there to protect unforeseens?
Mr. Fenton: Correct. We have an owner --
Chair Sarnoff So aren't you invading the protection of the unforeseens?
Mr. Fenton: No, no. We have an owner contingency built into the GMP which is not --
Chair Sarnoff I remember that.
Mr. Fenton: Okay. In addition to that, outside of the bottom line of the 73 GMP, we have
another owner's contingency.
Chair Sarnoff Where's our secondary owner's contingency?
Mr. Migoya: It's when the bond --
Mr. Fenton: The secondary -- it's below the line, below the 73 million GMP.
Mr. Migoya: Right.
Chair Sarnoff And I hate doing this to you guys, but this is just not the way you bring up at the
last minute.
Mr. Migoya: No. That's all detailed in the bond deal, and it's in your information.
Chair Sarnoff To me -- and forgive me, I'm going to be a lawyer -- a contingency is something
that is -- it's insurance to protect an unforeseen situation.
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Fenton: Correct.
Chair Sarnoff If you start invading the insurance on the unforeseen, you have less insurance.
Am I wrong on this?
Mr. Migoya: No. You're right.
Chair Sarnoff So -- I mean, everybody's anticipating, you know, no hurricanes, all great things.
One hurricane in this city, a category 2, and we're into that contingency. And --
Mr. Migoya: The --
Chair Sarnoff -- I certainly -- look, I think this is a great idea, but I think the one thing that
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everybody's been reasonably comfortable on is that the Marlins stadium seems to be coming in,
what do they say, ahead of schedule, on budget, you know, all those good words you guys like to
use, until the very last two months when everything has to get done.
Ms. Bravo: And ifI may. What the structure allows us to do is to provide the construction
manager to have an incentive to reduce costs and avoid claims and -- by being able to share in
the remaining amounts if they are not tapped. Without that incentive, then they're -- they have
no incentive but to --
Chair Sarnoff To meet the number that they said they'd hit in the contract.
Ms. Bravo: But there's different items with regard to the contingency and the contract. We want
them to come in below the guaranteed maximum price, if possible.
Chair Sarnoff Right.
Ms. Bravo: And to provide them an incentive to do that, we would share in the savings if they
come in below that number. So that's what this attempts to do. Without providing them a
sharing in the savings, then they have no incentive but to come in at that number. We're hoping
they come in lower. And to give some perspective for a different agency, for example, FDOT
(Florida Department of Transportation) provides a 50/50 sharing structure, and here the City
would receive 60 percent of the sharings, so it's a better deal.
Chair Sarnoff Oh, I remember the --
Commissioner Gort: No. I don't think that's the question.
Chair Sarnoff -- modification we made to Suffolk. I remember the modification when we did
the GMP, we turned around and we got the better part of the savings, I think it was 60/40 --
Ms. Bravo: Sixty/forty.
Chair Sarnoff -- and that happened some time about six or eight months ago, ifI recall
correctly. My only concern is -- and I don't want to sound -- I'm not going to enforce the
five-day rule on you, Commissioner Dunn, but this is something that I would have wanted to
have looked at very harshly. I spilled a lot of blood on this dais with the Marlins stadium, and it
is -- appears to be only $100, 000 at maximum that we would be upside down given any
circumstance. Am I correct?
Ms. Bravo: Well, I think he further modified that to 50,000.
Chair Sarnoff Well, I'm hearing two different things. I'm hearing the Manager say --
Commissioner Gort: A hundred thousand.
Mr. Migoya: The original deal without any amendments was that we have $100, 000 incentive to
the contractor if they improve the CSBE beyond the 30 percent, and that's included.
Chair Sarnoff Which comes out of our contingency.
Mr. Migoya: It's out of the owner's contingency, which happen -- it's a hundred thousand out of
a million eight fifty. And the only reason why we have that exfra contingency was 'cause they
were so successful in negotiating the prices down -- they came down from 75 to 73 -- we still
incorporated that owner's contingency to have a safe mechanism. So --
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Chair Sarnoff So what you're saying is you bought two insurance policies?
Mr. Migoya: Correct, to be safe. So that was the case, and that's how I felt comfortable with
$100, 000.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. I do want to state, just to try to differentiate one of the issues. And I
do want to commend the Vice Chairman for his due diligence on the Marlins stadium as a whole.
We have had some struggles with local hires with the Marlins, which is more -- and I wasn't
privy to the blood that was spilled previously and I acknowledge that and respect that, but we
have had problems with that. However, because we do have control over the parking garage, we
want to try to put something in place that will at least give some incentive to the locals and to
the opportunity for possibility of bringing more jobs to our residents, which is something that
we've all been fighting for.
Chair Sarnoff I understand. I -- understand the position that I'm in. I was not a supporter of
the Marlins parking garage. I was not a supporter of the Marlins. A vote occurred, a vote that -
- it was the will of the Commission at that time. We've done everything we could do. The
Mayor's done a great job of keeping this under what we thought it would cost, and I just want to
ensure that anything I do --
Commissioner Dunn: Understood.
Chair Sarnoff -- doesn't, in any way, shape, or form, damage any of the benefits that we've been
able to get in terms of better construction prices. Unfortunately, one of the things that they're
going to tear away at the better construction prices is the likelihood, as a result of our
downgrade, that the cost attendant to the bond are going to go up, so it's going to cost us more
money. So some of the savings that we had from the construction market being in the recession
is that the cost of bonding this out for 30 years is going to cost us more money. So, you know -- I
guess -- Commissioner Suarez taught me about two weeks ago, if it's the will of the Commission,
as a Commissioner you act and you say on time, on budget, and we all get behind the project.
And I'm absolutely going to support this, Commissioner, butt will tell you this. This is to me
what the five-day rule is all about because for me to learn this on the dais on an issue that still
have the scar on my back, it's just not the way I want to practice up here. So I'll support you on
this.
Commissioner Gort: I have a question.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Gort, you're recognized this.
Commissioner Gort: What is the difference that this amendment makes to the existing benefits
you already offer?
Mr. Migoya: The GMP is exactly the same, $73 million. The only thing we would do --
Commissioner Gort: No, no.
Mr. Migoya: Go ahead.
Commissioner Gort: What is the amendment? What's the difference? We already have -- in the
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original document that we received a long time ago, we already have incentive for the
Administration, for the manager of the -- for Suffolk giving certain benefits if he achieve certain
goals --
Mr. Migoya: On CS --
Commissioner Gort: -- up to a cap of $100, 000.
Mr. Migoya: No, no. The -- there are actually three different goals. One is around the CSBE
percentage --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Migoya: -- which is that $100, 000. The other -- the second goal was the upside on the
reduction of costs, which is that 60/40 split.
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Mr. Migoya: And now what the Commissioner is -- Commissioner Dunn is proposing is a third
incentive, which is the 50,000 would be incorporated from the owner's contingency where
basically we would segregate $50, 000 of that 73 million to make sure that -- give them an
incentive if he were able to increase employees beyond 35 percent, which is an achieve -- it's a
tough goal to do.
Commissioner Gort: So you're bringing it up to 150 then?
Mr. Migoya: It would be two separate -- one at 100 and one 50. Yes. There will be two, for
150.
Commissioner Gort: But it'll be 150 for the incentive?
Mr. Migoya: That's correct, within the same $73 million.
Commissioner Gort: I understand. But that's -- I just want to make sure I explained the
differences.
Mr. Migoya: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Ms. Bravo: And one is for CSBE and one is for community workforce.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Let's take these --Anybody else have anything more they want to say
on RE.9? And we'll take them one at a time?
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Dunn: I do want to just say to the Vice Chair, I know about the five-day rule. So
if you would on this one, I -- and basically, to -- we -- that's why we wanted to give the Manager
the ability to try to negotiate it, not disrespecting that five-day --I do want to say that.
Chair Sarnoff I can tell you, Commissioner, I'm going to support you. I know your goals are
laudable, but I have implicit trust in this Manager's ability to get things done. The next one I
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don't know about, but this one I do know. We've just got to cut his pay a little bit. He's getting
too fine of haircuts. All right, RE.9. We have a motion, we have a second.
Ms. Thompson: No, we don't have a second.
Chair Sarnoff We do not.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Commissioner Suarez: Second, as amended.
Chair Sarnoff We have a second by the Vice Chair. Public hearing has been -- Have I opened
a public hearing?
Ms. Thompson: No.
Chair Sarnoff I have not. Public hearing is now open. I apologize.
Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 122726 Street. I want to speak, you know, the two -- three of
them. Probably, I have some stock also in Bank ofAmerica, Wachovia, Wells Fargo, you know,
in my 401k thrift savings plan with the federal government. Maybe, probably I got money there,
but that's not a conflict of interest. I got stock there. But I laugh when I say GMP, guarantee
maximum price. The only thing is guaranteed in life is death and taxes. Remember that, okay.
Guaranteed. It's nothing guaranteed. Nothing is in concrete, okay. And I'm glad the maximum
price, but my grandchildren will be paying the debt service probably, especially when everything
is done with the Marlins. But I am glad we're not dealing with Loria or with
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) David Sampson here or Ben Ferre (phonetic), cheapskate people that they
fired the manager, now Freddy Gonzalez a scapegoat of the problem, you know, where they got -
- when they are cheap, cheap, cheap. They don't hire a good relief pitcher, like my namesake
Mariano Rivera or somebody to have a good --
Chair Sarnoff All right. Mariano.
Mr. Cruz: -- relief pitcher, okay. That's the way it is. No. I am going to that.
Chair Sarnoff I'd love to give you --
Mr Cruz: I agree with that. Oh, I support CIP --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Cruz: -- because first, the -- our Mayor get -- they lowered the price, right, seventy some
million dollars, okay. That's good. You got to wheel and deal because -- it's funny, but the other
day we're there for two hours or something for a million and something in social service. Now --
Chair Sarnoff Channel 10 is going to take you outside and they're going to take comment about
Freddy Gonzalez, but we're not going to do it here.
Mr. Cruz: Remember that I don't pay taxes or --
Chair Sarnoff I know, I know.
Mr. Cruz: -- debt service.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Thank you.
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Mr. Cruz: But my grandchildren will be paying that.
Chair Sarnoff Anybody else from the general public wishing to be heard on RE.9, please step
up. Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to this Commission. Gentlemen, we've discussed it.
All in favor on RE.9, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: As amended.
Chair Sarnoff As amended.
RE.10 RESOLUTION
10-00724
City Manager's A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WITH
Office ATTACHMENT(S), SUPPLEMENTING AND AMENDING RESOLUTION NO.
R-09-0509 ADOPTED ON OCTOBER 22, 2009, TO PROVIDE FOR THE
ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $20,000,000 IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL
AMOUNT OF CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA SPECIAL OBLIGATION PARKING
REVENUE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES, SERIES 2010 (MARLINS
STADIUM PROJECT) (THE "NOTES'); SETTING CERTAIN BASIC
PARAMETERS OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE NOTES, AND
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE NOTES, AND ALL
OTHER NECESSARY AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH; MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS;
AUTHORIZING ALL REQUIRED ACTIONS BY THE CITY MANAGER, THE
CITY ATTORNEY, AND ALL OTHER CITY OFFICIALS IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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10-00724 Summary Form.pdf
10-00724 Exhibit SUB.pdf
10-00724-Submittal-Larry Spring .pdf
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0272
Chair Sarnoff All right, RE.10. Do we have a motion on RE.10?
Vice Chair Carollo: So move.
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Chair Sarnoff We have a motion by the Vice Chair, second by Commissioner Dunn.
Larry Spring (Chief Financial Officer): Mr. Chair, for the record, I just wanted -- for the Clerk's
sake, we did already submit all of the changes in writing. That was the stuff that I --
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Chair Sarnoff I thought you were going to bring up Freddy Gonzalez.
Mr. Spring: No, no. No, no, no, no. I just wanted to make sure --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Spring: -- I stated those -- the things that I stated before were the amendments to the item.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Right. But we have not received them yet so --
Mr. Spring: You haven't -- yeah, we've not received them yet.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. So this --
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: -- resolution would be as modified.
Chair Sarnoff As modified --
Commissioner Gort: As modified.
Chair Sarnoff -- to 15 million. Is that correct?
Mr. Spring: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: No.
Mr. Spring: As modified.
Vice Chair Carollo: As modified.
Chair Sarnoff Right. All right, let me open up a public hearing. Anybody from the public
wishing to be heard on RE.10? RE.10 is the issuance of the -- what do you call that, a BAN
(Bond Anticipation Note)?
Mr. Spring: Bond --
Commissioner Gort: BAN.
Chair Sarnoff PAM?
Mr. Spring: A BAN.
Commissioner Gort: BAN.
Chair Sarnoff BAN, BAN, BAN.
Commissioner Gort: Bond Anticipated [sic] Note.
Chair Sarnoff Right, Bond Anticipation Note. Anybody wishing to be heard on the Bond
Anticipatory [sic] Note in RE.10, please step up. Hearing none, seeing none, the public hearing
is now closed; coming back to this Commission. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no
discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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RE.11 RESOLUTION
10-00755
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Capital ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
Improvements AMENDMENT NO. 4 TO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK
Program AGREEMENT, WITH SUFFOLK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC.
("SUFFOLK"), FOR THE STADIUM SITE PARKING PROJECT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM; AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF
MIAMI TO AMEND THE LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED ISSUED TO
SUFFOLK BY INCREASING THE AUTHORIZED EXPENDITURES IN THE
LIMITED NOTICE TO PROCEED BY AN AMOUNT UP TO $15,000,000,
PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED AT $3,000,000, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT UP TO
$18,000,000 OF THE APPROVED GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF
$73,000,000 ("GMP"), RESULTING IN NO CHANGE TO THE GMP, PRIOR TO
THE SALE OF THE SPECIAL OBLIGATION PARKING REVENUE BONDS
FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES; ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS FROM
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT NOS. B-30648 AND B-30153J.
10-00755 Legislation.pdf
10-00755 Summary Form.pdf
10-00755 Exhibit SUB.pdf
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0273
Chair Sarnoff RE.11. Capital Improvements is recognized for the record.
Larry Spring (Chief Financial Officer): Well, I was going to present this one 'cause it is a
companion to the previous item.
Chair Sarnoff I always thought you were capital improvements.
Mr. Spring: I'm now. Larry Spring, chieffinancial officer.
Vice Chair Carollo: He's everything.
Mr. Spring: RE.11 is the -- a fourth amendment to the contract with Suffolk Construction. The
purpose of this amendment is to increase the limited notice to proceed by the $15 million that
you just approved in the BAN (Bond Anticipation Note). The item that you previously had stated
it would go from 3 million to 23, that needs to be modified and modifying it on the floor. Madam
Clerk, it should state from 3 million to 18 million.
Chair Sarnoff All right, as modified.
Mr. Spring: As modified.
Commissioner Gort: Modified.
Chair Sarnoff All right. So let me open it up to a public hearing. Anybody wishing to be heard
on RE.11, which is the modification to the Suffolk Construction contract from 23 million to 18
million, please step up. Hearing none, seeing none, coming back to this Commission. Do we
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DI.1
10-00265c
Office of Strategic
Planning,
Budgeting, and
Performance
have a motion?
Vice Chair Carollo: So move.
Commissioner Suarez: Second, as modified.
Chair Sarnoff Motion by the Vice Chair --
Commissioner Gort: It was moved and seconded.
Chair Sarnoff -- second by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no
discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mr. Spring: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Thank you very much.
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION ITEM
A MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THE CURRENT
STATUS OF THE CITY'S FY 2010 BUDGET.
10-00265c Summary Form.pdf
10-00265c-Submittal-Monthly Financial Statement.pdf
DISCUSSED
Mayor Tomas Regalado: And ifI may, we go into the budget. Recently, the budget director send
Commissioners information about the budget. It's important that we are current in every
Commission meeting with what is happening with the budget, so --
Chair Sarnoff Mr. Manager --
Mayor Regalado: -- Mr. Manager.
Chair Sarnoff Right. Mr. Manager, you're recognized. Gentlemen, it's DI.1, page 18 of our
agenda.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Mr. Chair, Commissioners, Mr. Mayor. The numbers for
May have not looked a whole lot different than they did in April. We're still showing a negative
variance of similar of around $23 million in revenues with a positive variance of about $2.2
million in expenses. The numbers still -- the deficit is still projected to be around $20.8 million.
There's been some -- a few changes around it, but at the end of the day, the deficit continues to
be the same. We are expected to have a few minor variances, but at this point in time, it doesn't
look like we're going to have a whole lot of differences between now and the end of the year. So
we expected 20 -- we'll probably hover around that $20 million number for the end of the year.
Chair Sarnoff Any questions of the Manager? All right. Mr. Mayor, do you want -- wish to be
heard on DI.1 ?
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Mayor Regalado: Sorry.
Chair Sarnoff No? Okay. Commissioner Gort, you're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Gort: I just want to welcome Pete Chircut back into work. It's a pleasure to have
you back.
Chair Sarnoff All right. So, Mr. Manager, this is just an informational discussion item. We
don't need to take any action on this?
Mr. Migoya: No, sir. That's what we've been doing. As promised, we're updating you on a
monthly basis as to what the numbers look like. We're still working on the -- on fine-tuning the
2011 numbers, and not only the 2011 numbers, but the five-year numbers. And we hope to in the
next -- before the recession for the summer, either in the July 8 or July 22, give you more specific
numbers on what that -- on what the 2011 and the five-year projections will look like. 'Cause at
the end of the day, what's critical here -- and I know a lot of people are going back to what the
Mayor said about nationally, a lot of people are looking out of balance for 2011. We're worried
about balancing 2011, which is a big number, but equally important, we don't see any upsides
for 2012, '13, and '14, so we want to make sure that whatever we do in all the negotiations and
actions that we've taken into consideration in 2011 that are sustainable for the remaining of the
years 'cause we're going to need it.
Chair Sarnoff In other words, what you're saying is, let's not fix the problem with a Band-Aid.
Let's do some surgery and fix the body completely.
Mr. Migoya: We're going to have a long, hot five years.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Anybody have any questions of the Manager? All right. Thank you very
much for DI.1. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We, I think, have addressed all of your issues, except for
what's in the agenda, and we'll get to those, if you don't mind, in --
Mayor Regalado: Whenever you can.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
END OF DISCUSSION ITEM
EXECUTIVE SESSION
2:00 P.M.
ES.1 EXECUTIVE SESSION
10-00729a
Office of the City UNDER THE PARAMETERS OF F.S. §286.011(8), F.S. [2009]. THE PERSON
Attorney CHAIRING THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION MEETING WILL ANNOUNCE
THE COMMENCEMENT OF AN ATTORNEY -CLIENT SESSION, CLOSED TO
THE PUBLIC, FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING THE PENDING
LITIGATION CASE OF: JORGE L. FERNANDEZ VS. CITY OF MIAMI, CASE
NO.: 08-17486 CA 13, PENDING IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 11TH
JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA, TO
WHICH THE CITY IS PRESENTLY A PARTY. THIS PRIVATE MEETING
WILL BEGIN AT APPROXIMATELY 2:00 P.M. (OR AS SOON THEREAFTER
AS THE COMMISSIONERS' SCHEDULES PERMIT) AND CONCLUDE
APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR LATER. THE SESSION WILL BE ATTENDED
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BY THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION: CHAIRMAN MARC DAVID
SARNOFF, FRANK CAROLLO, WIFREDO (WILLY) GORT, FRANCIS
SUAREZ AND RICHARD P. DUNN, II; THE CITY MANAGER, CARLOS A.
MIGOYA; THE CITY ATTORNEY, JULIE O. BRU; DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY
MARIA J. CHIARO; ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY MIMI V. TURIN; AND
ADDITIONAL COUNSEL FOR THE CITY, ROBERT KOFMAN, ESQ., GERALD
GREENBERG, ESQ., AND MURRAY GREENBERG, ESQ. A CERTIFIED
COURT REPORTER WILL BE PRESENT TO ENSURE THAT THE SESSION
IS FULLY TRANSCRIBED AND THE TRANSCRIPT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC
UPON THE CONCLUSION OF THE ABOVE -CITED, ONGOING LITIGATION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE ATTORNEY -CLIENT SESSION, THE
REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE REOPENED AND THE
PERSON CHAIRING THE COMMISSION MEETING WILL ANNOUNCE THE
TERMINATION OF THE ATTORNEY -CLIENT SESSION.
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DISCUSSED
Chair Sarnoff (UNINTELLIGIBLE) have an executive or shade meeting. Do you need to read
anything into the record?
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): I do, I do.
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead.
Ms. Chiaro: Under the Florida Statute 286.011, we will commence with an attorney -client
session, closed to the public, for purposes of discussing pending litigation in the case ofJorge L.
Fernandez versus the City ofMiami, pending in the circuit court, to which the City is presently a
party. This meeting will begin as soon as we adjourn upstairs and conclude approximately one
hour later. The session will be attended by the members of the City Commission, the Chairman,
Marc Sarnoff the Vice Chair, Frank Carollo, Wifredo Gort, Francis Suarez, and Richard Dunn,
II; the City Manager, Carlos Migoya, Deputy City Attorney, Maria Chiaro, and additional
counsel for the City, Robert Kaufmann, Gerald Greenberg, and Mary Greenberg. A certified
court reporter will be present to ensure that the session is fully transcribed, and the transcript
will be made public upon the conclusion of the ongoing litigation. At the conclusion of the
attorney -client session, the regular City Commission will be reopened and the person chairing
the Commission will announce the termination of the attorney -client session. So we can now
adjourn to the attorney -client session.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
[Later...
Chair Sarnoff All right, we're back on the record. Madam Clerk, I think we had tabled RE.6.
Ms. Chiaro: Before you --
Chair Sarnoff Oh, I'm sorry.
Ms. Chiaro: -- reopen the meeting, we need to announce --
Chair Sarnoff Close the shade meeting?
Ms. Chiaro: -- that the attorney -client session is now closed related to the case of Fernandez
versus the City ofMiami.
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PZ.1
10-00485xc
PART B: PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
Commissioner Gort: PZ.1.
Chair Sarnoff PZ (Planning & Zoning), right?
Commissioner Gort: PZ.1.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): I'm sorry. Are we going to have a PZ order of the day and
a swearing in?
Chair Sarnoff That's what I thought.
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): PZ items shall proceed as follows. Before the PZ
agenda is heard, all those wishing to speak will be sworn in by the City Clerk. Staff will briefly
describe the request, whether an appeal, special exception, vacation, text amendment, zoning
change, land use change, or a MUSP (Major Use Special Permit), and make its
recommendation. The appellant or petitioner will then present the request. The appellee will
present its position. Member of the publics [sic] may be permitted to speak on certain petitions.
Petitioner may ask questions of staff. Appellant or petitioner will be permitted to make final
comments.
Ms. Thompson: Anyone who is appearing to speak on any of the Planning and Zoning items, I
please need you to stand and raise your right hand so that I can swear you in. If you're going to
be speaking on any of the PZ items, please stand and raise your right hand.
The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those giving
testimony on zoning issues.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, AS LISTED IN
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ARTICLE 9, SECTION 933, TO ALLOW
HELISTOPS AS CONDITIONAL ACCESSORY USES IN THE OFFICE
DESIGNATION BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 AM AND 5:00 PM ON
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12)
MONTHS IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED, SUBJECT
TO CONDITIONS, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY
564 SOUTHWEST 42ND AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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10-00485xc Zoning Map.pdf
10-00485xc Aerial Map.pdf
10-00485xc Miami 21 Map.pdf
10-00485xc Analysis.pdf
10-00485xc Application & Supporting Docs. pdf
10-00485xc Plans.pdf
10-00485xc ZB Reso.pdf
10-00485xc CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
10-00485xc Exhibit A.pdf
10-00485xc CC 06-24-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
10-00485xc-Submittal -Claudio Miro .pdf
10-00485xc-Submittal -Letter-Prime Care Family Centers .pdf
10-00485xc-Submittal -Gladys Abesada-Terk-Opposition to Helistops at 564 SW 42 Ave
LOCATION: Approximately 564 SW 42nd Avenue [Commissioner Francis
Suarez - District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Claudio Miro, Principal, on behalf of Lejeune and Six LLC
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial.
ZONING BOARD: Recommended denial to City Commission on May 10, 2010
by a vote of 5-0.
PURPOSE: This will allow helistops between the hours of 9:00 am and 5:00 pm
for an office.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
DENIED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Chair Sarnoff All right, PZ.1.
Roberto Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning): Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Mr. Lavernia: For the records [sic], Roberto Lavernia, with the Planning Department. PZ.1 is
a special exception with City Commission approval in order to allow helistop on a specific
property at 564 Southwest 42nd Avenue. The Planning Department is recommending denial,
finding that what we're granting is a full helistop permit, so -- for any type of helicopter all day
long. That could be an intrusion into the privacy of residential property adjacent and even on
LeJeune Road, so our recommendation is for denial. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Let me open up a public hearing on PZ.1. Are there any members of
the public wishing to speak on PZ.1, please step -- please -- Mr. Cruz, please step up. Come on
up.
Mariano Cruz: Thank you. Yeah.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): I'm sorry. Mr. Chair, you didn't get a presentation
from the petitioner.
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Chair Sarnoff Oh, I'm --
Mr. Cruz: The petitioner first?
Chair Sarnoff I thought the City -- is the -- who's --
Mr. Cruz: The petitioner.
Chair Sarnoff -- the applicant?
Claudio Miro: I've never been here, so I don't know. I'm sorry.
Mr. Cruz: Okay. He say he's going to talk. Okay.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Mr. Miro: Okay. Can I speak now or --?
Commissioner Gort: Go ahead.
Chair Sarnoff You're recog --
Mr. Miro: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff What's your name for the record, sir?
Mr. Miro: I'm Dr. Miro, Claudio Miro, and I own the property at 564 Southwest 42nd Avenue.
I'm presenting the case for my building where I would like to have a helistop. I'm sure that
there's a lot of concerns, and I would like to answer those questions, when it comes maybe to
safety, to noise levels. I have done studies in both of them. I'm also willing to come here in front
of you, the Commissioners. And if there's conditions that you could imply or apply to my
petition, I'm willing to accept them. I would like to start by saying that this not going to be an
everyday use or ten, twelve times per day, nothing like that. I just want to be able to use it once
in a while. In Miami there is really no helistops. Every other County -- Orange County,
Orlando, Homestead, Dade County -- they all have helistops and, for some reason, I guess that
no one either has presented it or it has been denied before. But there is over a hundred helistops
in the entire state of Florida that are privately owned. And besides the privately owned, there's
also around another 300 commercial helistops throughout the entire state of Florida. We have
one really close to us that is right in -- on the Shoma Homes that is in 836, right in front of the
airport, but that belongs to Dade County. There is Kelly Tractor, one, that is in 58th Street and
it's right at the level of the street, and there's another one in that town, Fort Lauderdale, that is
in a rooftop. I don't know how high it is, but it's a low building, but there's also another helistop
there. I do know that the City, with a special exception and with the approval of the
Commissioners, they may allow this. The helicopter that I'm proposing to use for my private use
is a Robinson 44, and it's the only one that I'm asking -- I'm sorry; I have another one -- and it's
the only helicopter that would like to obtain permission to be used at the helistop. There's
different types of helicopters. There's the military type. There's big ones, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
201 s, jet, double twin engines, very, very noisy. You know, this helicopter in particular is a very
quiet helicopter. It's considered more like a type of Sedan car. It's not going to be any louder
than any other noises. Maybe if you live in a quiet neighborhood, maybe a boat, you know, like
a Cigarette or whatever type of boat comes behind your house and (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- it's
going to be not as noisy as that and not as noisy as a semi tractor. And there's studies done by
NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration). I mean, this was not my own studies.
And if-- let me see. Where's the page? If you go to page number 4, I had a company, and as
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you can see, the numbers -- the name is right there, and they did a study on my street. I'm right
on LeJeune Road. I did a traffic study. There's over 256,000 cars that pass by my office or by
my building there per day. It's kind of noisy. And basically, all of the properties are -- that are
there are zoned office. Ifyou could look at a couple pages behind, this page right here, the noise
level that my street has right there, LeJeune Road, is 74.3 decibels. If you look at the chart on
the right, you're going to see that an ambulance or a fruck or even cutting the grass is going to
be much more -- a lot noisier than the helicopter that I'm proposing. Ifyou go at the end, page
number 6, this is the study that was talking about, that it comes from NASA. This is not my
study. This is on the Internet. And it's a study done through NASA in order for them to be able
to certify this helicopter to fly. As you could see right at the middle, it's 43.6 decibels. In the
study, in page number 4, it's right here, that expert -- the conclusion -- this is the company that
did the study. As per Table 2 the analysis shows that the impact of the R44 II, which is the only
helicopter that want to have approved to land there, would not exceed the City Miami's noise
ordinance requirements of 60 decibels. The increased distance, of course, is going to diminish
that. As a matter of fact, it's going to be not as noise [sic] as the City ordinance for the noise
level. Also, I would like to let you know that on page number 2, I had a company that came to
my building and they did a complete analysis and they submitted some papers to the FAA
(Federal Aviation Administration). And once the FAA did the complete study of all of the
different type of departures that can have, the type of landing, if you can see right here, it says
that -- this is the FAA, the United States Department of Transportation -- that we have
determined that the proposed private use landing area to be located at such and such latitude,
which is my building, okay, in Miami, Florida, would not adversely affect the safe and efficient
use to navigate air space by the aircraft provided. Also, and the page that is in front of that one,
if you look at the safety, the FAA using its own data and that of the National Transportation
Safety Board located that the relative risk of a community has a relationship to -- what
relationship they have to a helicopter landing area. And the result is that study calculated that
an accident has a frequency of occurring once every 432 years. It is extremely safe. This type of
helicopter will never been flown in what is called (UNINTELLIGIBLE) conditions, which is a
minimal type of visibility. It will be under a visual type of reference where you could see where
you're going. And as you know it, it's only going to be used from 9 to 5. Usually, there's no one
at home. IfI were to land and there were people inside the house, they wouldn't even know ifI
had landed a helicopter or not. And on top of everything, I would like to offer the helistop that
I'm going to pay for -- I would like to put it to the City's use, either for the Police Department or
air rescue where if the Police Department, if one day they feel like they need to fly from Miami
maybe to Opa Locka -- there's expenses involved in using helicopters. If they would like to use
my helistop as their base, it is yours to be used at no charge at all to the City and also to the
Fire -Rescue Department, the proposed landing site also. I would like to comment -- I mean, I'm
not going to fly on top of the neighbors. That's not how you fly a helicopter in reality because
there's no use, butl could come from the south on LeJeune Road, as you can see on page
number -- this will be also six behind. It will be from the south to the north, and my building is
the one that has the little red dots, and it will a rooftop type of landing on it. Any questions?
Chair Sarnoff All right. Anybody have any questions. Commissioner?
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Just excuse me. So your purpose of wanting a helistop -- I'm just trying to
Mr. Miro: Yes.
Commissioner Dunn: Is it -- what -- you know, what's -- what is it -- I mean, I understand what
you --
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Mr. Miro: It's a service to the community. Andl have my own helicopter. If-- one day, ifI
would like to use it and it's -- ifI am able to use it, that will be good. I also have a medical
building. As we speak right now, they're doing plans and they're building a surgical suite. I
want to tell you that if there's a catastrophe -- I just came back from California. Every building
that they're building in California, you will not get a permit ifyou don't get a helistop. Of
course, if they get a -- there's different type of problems. Let's suppose in New Orleans, it would
have been very nice to help people once they had a disaster to be able to have a helistop. This is
not going to be an every day. Maybe you guys could tell me listen, you could use it eight, ten
times a month, or you come up with a number. I'm willing to compromise if you would allow me.
And it is in the ordinance. I mean, it's allowed by the City with your permission with your
approval. So if we can work together, I would like to work together with the neighbors. I have
spoken to a lot of neighbors. I have a lot of them in my favor. There's some opposition, which
there's always going to be some. But would like to offer it to the City and for myself. I work as
a doctor. I still practice a lot. I have four offices, not just here in Miami. And also I'm opening
another office in -- out ofMiami, out of Dade County. So I'm a pilot myself. So to answer your
question, it's going to be basically for private use, but do have a medical building and I'm
going to have two operating rooms, full operating rooms on the third floor with general
anesthesia. You never know what it could be used for. I'm here for the community. I don't want
to create any problems with the neighbors. I'm willing to sit down with you. I'm willing to sit
down with the neighbors. And if we could reach an amicable way, by all means. And I'm willing
-- like I said before, I will go with a covenant with conditions to see if we can make it work.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Any other Commissioners -- any questions? All right, let's open up to
a public hearing. Anybody from the public wishing to be heard? Mr. Cruz, you're recognized
for the record.
Mr. Cruz: Yes. Mariano Cruz, 1227 Northwest 26th Sfreet. I watch May 10, the hearing in
front of the Zoning Board. I was appalled, the way they treat Dr. Miro there in the board like he
was, you know -- all kind of things so -- 'cause -- and I mention, the people from the MRC
(Miami Riverside Center), they have to come down from their towers and go down to the sfreet
and see the people. I live less than a mile from the busiest heliport in Miami, the Ryder Trauma
there. And you get 24/7 helicopter going by me, going there, trauma 1, trauma 2 going to there.
And you know how far is that from my home? You go by the sfreet, 10 to 12, two blocks, so 0.2
miles; 18 to 26, half a mile; all together, the Pythagorean theorem, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 0.54
straight from my home, straight, and I have the number there to prove it. Okay. Not only that,
years ago on the southeast buildings and the river -- South River Drive there and loth Sfreet
used to be a heliport there for the Clearing House from the banks and the checks right there in a
residential district. And to me, the helicopter doesn't bother me on the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that
somebody is being saved to be arriving in trauma there in Ryder. Once you get to Ryder, you're
safe. When you go there, that's one of the best places, and that's the busiest heliport. Doesn't
bother me, you know. It's in our neighborhood there, right. Right there, close to your home too,
and you hear it. That don't bother me at all, and that's 24/7. The military type of helicopter, not
this 44, no, the little type and -- but many people, they got the name (UNINTELLIGIBLE) factor
and the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) factor and all that. No. The County has put a lot of things in our
neighborhood that nobody from the west wanted, but that's okay. Now to have something like
that in the City ofMiami too. It's a -- private investor is investing there and it's going to be a
service to the City. That's what hear. Because I am telling you, tell this people, the Planning
Department to go down to the street and check. The people, they don't even know -- they don't
even mention the Ryder center there with the busiest heliport in Miami -Dade County.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, Mr. Cruz. Anyone else from the general public wishing to be heard
on PZ.1, please, ifyou would, just step up to the podium so that we can at least see how many
speakers we have. You're recognized for the record, sir.
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Jorge Carbajal: Good afternoon. My name is Jorge Carbajal. I am representing the owners of
the property 4010 and 4012 Southwest 5th Terrace. That is located right behind the building of
Dr. Miro's office. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) with them, they see no problem with this at all since the
amount of time that the helicopter would be landing would be regulated. In the other hand, they
see like an asset to the area like -- because property authority will be able to use it to conduct
any kind of operation that they need, so basically, they agree with this. And that's what I'm
transmitting to you and telling here. Thank you very much.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, Mr. Carbal [sic]. All right, you're recognized for the record, sir.
Carlos Morales: Okay. Carlos Morales, 5261 Southwest 4th Street. I'm concerned about this.
So the doctor wants to add a helicopter pad because he has the luxury of having a helicopter.
And he feels since the noise level is so high, what's the big deal adding more noise. I live in the
area. I'm concerned with traffic. I'm concerned with the violence. And I'm concerned with
noise. For me this is a big issue. I don't see -- I understand Mariano Cruz, when he sees a
helicopter fly by, he goes oh, they're saving a life. This is a dental clinic. What are we saving
here? Ryder Medical Center is right next to your house. You're saving lives. You're going to
cover my -- our safety for the sake of having a helipad in our district, in our area? I have a big
concern, and I hope you guys say no to this.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am, you're recognized for the record.
Iradia Rivero-Mendez: Good afternoon, gentlemen. My name is Iradia Rivero-Mendez, and I
live at 3925 Southwest 6th Street, two blocks away from this medical spa and dental clinic. And
it is bad enough in that area with the traffic. On top of that, you're endangering people's life. I
don't see how this gentleman can even say that there will be no noise. What about when it starts
-- the propeller starts? It is endangering the neighbors. It is intrusion into our neighborhood
once again. And like the gentleman said, it's a medical spa. It's not dental. So there's not a
trauma center. One thing is having a trauma center where you have emergency, life or death.
This certainly is not, and it -- just -- such an intrusion and such abuse with the noise. As far as 9
to 5, there are people living in that area that do not work. We have a lot of retirees that are
there and we would like to have peace and quiet and not be worrying that the airplane that's
going through -- because we do get airplanes through our area, my house. So it's interrupting
with the helicopter. He says it's going to be a -- just for his use. I can't understand what the
purpose of it is, and I'm surprised that FAA would approve it because it's any understanding that
they do not approve any helicopter service near the airport where they can cross with the
airplanes, so I am quite surprised. And I certainly hope you think it over and put yourselves in
our place, neighbors that I personally have lived 42 years in our area, and all of sudden this
explosion of doing things that's out of the question. It's preposterous. Who would think that a
dentist would need a helicopter to use it once in a while? I don't understand it truthfully, and I
would greatly appreciate your assistance in helping us.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Ms. Rivero-Mendez: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, ma'am. Yes. You're recognized for the record. Well, what I'd like to
do is go back and forth.
Gladys Abesada-Terk: My name is Gladys Abesada.
Chair Sarnoff Pull the mike a little closer. There you go.
Ms. Abesada-Terk: My name is --
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Chair Sarnoff One more tug. There you go.
Ms. Abesada-Terk: Right?
Chair Sarnoff That's a good one.
Ms. Abesada-Terk: My name is GladysAbesada-Terk. I living in 536-538 Southwest LeJeune
Road. I'm the neighbor of Miro Dental Clinic. I'm here be -- together with at least all the
neighbor close to the office because we're opposed to the approval on helicopter in the roof of
clinica medical there. I think it's very dangerous for the neighbor and also for the airport. We
are really worried about that. We're opposed.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. And you've given us the sheets of all the neighbors that are opposed?
Ms. Abesada-Terk: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Thank you very much.
Ms. Abesada-Terk: Sure.
Chair Sarnoff All right, you're recognized for the record.
Milagros Valiente: Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Millie Valiente. I'm here representing
Prime Care Family Centers. They're the physicians right across from Dr. Miro's office. They
want -- and this is going to be presented for the record, by the way. They wanted you to know,
first of all, they are in agreement with this. They think it would be an asset to the neighborhood.
I'd like to read the letter first, and then I'd like to say something. It says, "To Whom It May
Concern: I am writing this letter to acknowledge my approval of the construction of the helistop
at Dr. Miro's office, located at 564 LeJeune Road. I am located at the property on the 6th Street
side, directly across the street from Miro Dental Centers. I understand the hours of landing and
takeoffs are between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., andl do not object to this. I would have been here in
person, but am away through this weekend at my son's tournament in Orlando. I have
authorized Millie Valiente to read this in my absence. Sincerely, Juan A. Gomez." First of all,
I'd also like to say that there seems to be a misconception from what I've heard here. The
medical facility that we're talking about is not a spa. It is a dental office. It has surgical suites.
There is major surgery performed there under general anesthesia, as well as local anesthesia,
but there is general anesthesia being administered here. There is [sic] no helistops in this area.
Let's say you had an accident, you know, anywhere close to that area. There is nowhere other
than the main street that a helicopter could land to pick up a patient that has to go, let's say, to
Ryder Trauma Center, to wherever they need to be. And Dr. Miro is proposing to have that, you
know, to the use of these -- to facilitate it for the use of ambulance or, you know, medical use as
well. I think that to the doctors -- that center right there, that area off of 42nd Avenue, there is
quite a few medical facilities, different types of doctors are in that area, and I think it would be
an asset to the community to have it there.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you.
Ms. Valiente: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you very much for coming. Yes, ma'am, you're recognized for the record.
Susana Abesada-Terk: Hello. My name is Susana Abesada-Terk and my address is 538
Southwest LeJeune Road. I am the daughter of Gladys --
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry, Chair; we're not hearing her. If you get a little bit closer --
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Chair Sarnoff You need to go a little closer to the mike.
Ms. S. Abesada-Terk: Would you like me to repeat everything?
Ms. Thompson: Yes, please.
Ms. S. Abesada-Terk: My name is Susana Abesada-Terk and my address is 538 Southwest
LeJeune Road. We have lived in this area, in this -- two houses over from the Miro Dental Clinic
for about 35 years. During that time period the area has changed. Sometimes it's gotten worse.
Sometimes it's gotten better. But at this juncture helistops are just not compatible with the
neighborhood. We are not opposed to helistops in Miami. We're not opposed to helistops in
Miami -Dade. We're just -- it is not compatible with the specific neighborhood. This is a
neighborhood of one-story homes, modest homes which have no insulation, noise insulation, no
high -impact windows to sound out the sounds. This is a building -- Miro Dental Clinic is a
three-story building. It is not a ten -story building where you will not know what is going up on
the roof. This is a little building three stories. The other houses are one story, two stories the
most. When that helicopter comes down, we will hear the noise. And it's not just a question of
what the noise level will be. It is the noise coupled with a couple of other factors. It is the noise
coupled with when the helicopter comes down, there will be exhaust fumes coming down into our
neighborhood. A lot of the neighbors, honestly, in that area, they live with their windows open
because they cannot live with the high cost of energy that is required in -- to run air
conditioning, so there's a lot of open window in the area. You're going to also have -- there's a
lot of telephone lines, electrical lines that are on the level of -- consistent with the type of
buildings that are in our neighborhood, one- and two-story buildings. And Mr. Cruz, excuse me;
I'm trying to speak a little bit here. I'm the type of the person that -- you know, I'm -- Mr. Cruz
referred previously to the Planning Department coming and speaking to the neighborhood.
Well, you know, I am the neighborhood. I am the people who have been in that community for
35 years. I went to Kinloch Elementary. I went to Kinloch Junior High. And I have maintained
my steadfast commitment to that community. I don't believe that this will add any beautification
to this area, which is lately undergoing a little bit of a beautification and it's really, really
pleasant to be in an area where people are investing in the area. To have this [sic] helicopters
coming into our community will not allow for the homeowners to feel that it's an area where they
want to beautify that area. You're going to have the exhaust fumes. You're going to have -- the
wind draft is also a point, along with the noise level. So it's the things coupled together, the
noise, the wind draft, the exhaust fumes, the safety. I just don't believe that in an area -- this
area is compatible. We're near the airport. If you want to have a helistop, you need to be in an
area that is more commercialized, that is not such residential. And these signatures we gathered
just from going around for one hour the other day. You send out notices to the community, but
honestly, we don't read them because we have other things to read. We have homework. We
have things to do for our children. We saw (UNINTELLIGIBLE) when we were watching the
television set and we saw our neighbor on the TV (Television) and we said, "Oh, that's him,
Miro. Let's see what he has to say." And we saw it and we went out and talked to some of our
neighbors. A lot of our neighbors were busy that specific day, so there's a lot more neighbors in
opposition than what is reflected. That was one hour's worth of going and talking to our
neighbors. And it is just a use that is not compatible with this specific neighborhood. Thank
you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Yes, sir, you're recognized for the record.
Angel Urquiola: Good afternoon. My name is Angel Urquiola. I live in 25 Southwest 38
Avenue. I was listen to the Dr. Miro about the traffic at 42nd Avenue. He was right, there's a lot
of traffic, but he forgot to count. I was over there three days ago with a clock. I can count every
truck -- car or fruck. You know how many fruck I counted there? From 6 0' clock to 6 o'clock,
600 big fruck. There's a lot of noise, huh, on 8th Street, plus the car, plus the airport. Why we
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need more noise in the neighborhood? You know, one of the biggest family, especial
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) is Flagami. Flagami start from 32nd Avenue to 72nd, all resident area,
and very beautiful area. Why we go to risk the safety of our people only for one businessman
who want to have a helicopter to come in back to your building. No, sir. We have too much to
lose and nothing to win, like they say. He want to put the helicopter at the City Hall there. Why
he do this? Because you think -- he think you got to say okay, we're going to use it. It's
helicopter. It's free. This is the kind of business the people from California does. They promise,
they promise, they promise. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) nothing. Believe me, sir, I really -- we, the
neighbor, appreciate it if you vote against this. Don't risk our people's safety for only one man.
He say one helicopter, right? But does he have the license. You going to see over there
everyday the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) helicopter, and then the City and the neighbor going to have
a problem with the airport, okay. They got to -- a route to airport and we have to
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) to find (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I really appreciated you working for the
people. You remember, you are our lawyer. We don't have lawyer. We don't have no money to
pay the big lawyer and the big (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We have our heart to do our best to the
people and to the Commissioner. And the Commissioner know I help in any politician
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) when they asking for my help. I don't charge money. I do not say money.
I work free, like I was in the Zoning Board for three years working free. I really appreciated if
you vote against this please.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, sir.
Mr. Urquiola: You're welcome.
Chair Sarnoff Yes, ma'am.
Estela Gonzalez: Good afternoon.
Chair Sarnoff Good afternoon.
Ms. Gonzalez: My name is Estela Gonzalez. And I own a house at 4368 Southwest IOth Street,
just a few blocks away from the -- Dr. Miro's office. I consider that having a helistop right there
would be great thing because -- as a matter of fact, I love helicopter noises and especially when I
see them -- when I hear them, I know that they are saving, most of the time, people's life from
accidents, fires, or a child that can fall into a pool and can be taken fast to be safe to a hospital.
If the doctor is offering that heli thing for the City, the fire -rescue, or the Police Department,
would be great for them to be able to use it at any time. And I don't think the doctor would have
a helicopter to play around all day, making noises to the neighbors because he supposed to be
working five days a week. So I don't see anything wrong for the helistop right there.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, ma'am.
Ms. Gonzalez: You're welcome.
Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir, you're recognized for the record.
Roberto Gonzalez: (Comments in Spanish).
Chair Sarnoff Wait, wait, wait. You going to have an interpreter?
Ms. Thompson: We did not know we were going to need an interpreter for the afternoon, so we
have already --
Chair Sarnoff One of the Commissioners want to do their best?
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Mr. Cruz: Volunteer?
Ms. Thompson: No, no.
Chair Sarnoff Prefer having it from a Commissioner. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Cruz, you want to
go up there and interpret?
Ms. Thompson: No, no, no, no, no. Wait one second. One second.
Chair Sarnoff All right, Victoria Mendez will interpret.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Mr. Cruz: Give me a W-2 form there. Give me the -- give me a W-2 form.
Chair Sarnoff No, no. Mr. Cruz, she's a sworn lawyer. She's going to get it right. Just do her
a favor, just fry to talk in bite -sized sentences and let her interpret so --
Mr. Gonzalez (as interpreted by Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez): My name is Roberto
Gonzalez. I live in 4301 Southwest 5th Terrace. I'm a neighbor of the clinic close to Dr. Miro. I
am coming because I have the honor of working in that aviation industry. It's a company in
North Miami called Techno Core. It's dedicated to that aviation, executive aviation, jets, and
corporate, and I can assure you that it's one of the most safest ways to transport. The -- it's one
of the most safest forms of aviation that exists in the world. Compared to the accidents that
happen in the United States daily, it's less than happens in aviation across the world. I heard the
woman that spoke with reference to the insulation and the properties with reference -- in that
area. Then you would have to insulate all the houses in Miami from the east to the west because
the commercial airplanes in the airport ofMiami that come in and come out make much more
noise than Dr. Miro's helicopter. It's a little plane helicopter of four passengers with a small
motor which is very quiet. I've seen them in person. My company actually does the shows and --
that come on in the convention centers that actually have these type of crafts -- aircrafts,
helicopters, and five or six times I've been at these shows where these helicopters are. He
actually puts together these presentations in the shows in the convention centers that display
these helicopters.
Chair Sarnoff And in conclusion.
Mr. Gonzalez (as interpreted by Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez): That's why I consider
that you evaluate that -- this proposition that Dr. Miro is (UNINTELLIGIBLE) is a benefit to the
community for all the neighbors because, as I said, there's benefits to police, disaster relief for
the Fire Department and all that.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you, sir.
Mr. Gonzalez (as interpreted by Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez): Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Anyone else wishing to be heard on PZ.1, please come up. Hearing none, seeing
none, the public hearing is now closed, coming back to this Commission. Commissioner Suarez,
you're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Chairman. I make a motion to deny this application, and I'd
like to specify some of the reasons why. One of things that was said here today is that there is no
helipad that is near this area. I happened to do a little bit of research on my own and found out
that the -- there is a helipad at Miami International Airport. It's 3.38 miles away from that area.
There is another helipad at Miami International Mall and that is nine miles away from this area.
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So there are at least two helipads that are in a very, very small proximity to this particular site.
The other thing that persuades me in terms of my motion is there's rarely an item on this agenda
where the Administration recommends denial, the Zoning Board recommends denial, the citizens
in effect recommend denial because there's -- with the comment cards that we've received and
the faxes. By my count, I have 18 residents that have recommended denial and one business
recommending denial, neighboring business, and only three residents who came here today
recommending approval and one business who was here today recommending approval. We
obviously have tremendous noise pollution in that area, and we do not want to do anything to
continue that or to increase that in my way, shape, or form, and you know, there's obviously a
safety issue. You know, I think if, God forbid, a helicopter were to crash on top of a residential
house, not only is the pilot in jeopardy, but the homeowners are also in jeopardy. I'm -- I can't
say more than that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Vice Chair is recognized.
Vice Chair Carollo: I second the motion.
Chair Sarnoff All right, we have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion,
gentlemen?
Commissioner Gort: Well, under discussion, I just want to make sure that the -- everyone here
understands that the police will never come down with a helicopter. The police uses the
helicopter to surround the area and to put their lights. In case of an emergency of an accident of
death, a critical trauma center need, there's plenty of places where the police -- I mean, not the
police but the firefighters can land and pick up the patients and take them to the trauma center.
So I don't really see the facility -- this being a facility to benefit the neighbors.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Well, Mr. Chairman, thank you. That's -- what was -- other basis of my
question, as to what was the purpose.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Gentlemen, we have a motion. We have a second. Hearing no further
discussion, all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WITH ATTACHMENT(S)
GRANTING THE APPEAL, REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
BOARD, THEREBY GRANTING A VARIANCE FROM ORDINANCE NO.
11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, TO ALLOW A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED
REAR SETBACKS OF A DETACHED UNIT OF A TWO-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, TO ALLOW A REAR SETBACK OF 4'11" (10'0"
REQUIRED, REQUEST TO WAIVE 5'1"), FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 430 NORTHWEST 32ND PLACE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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10-00493v Analysis.pdf
10-00493vApplications & Supporting Docs. pdf
10-00493v Plans.pdf
10-00493v CC Zoning Map.pdf
10-00493v CC Miami 21 Map.pdf
10-00493v CC Aerial Map.pdf
10-00493v Appeal Letter.pdf
10-00493v ZB Reso.pdf
10-00493v CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
10-00493v CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
10-00493v Exhibit A.pdf
10-00493v CC 06-24-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
10-00493v-submittal-Letter-Jorge Reyes.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
R-10-0279
Chair Sarnoff Okay, PZ.2.
Roberto Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning): PZ.2 is an appeal of a variance that
was recommended for denial by the Planning Department. And the Zoning Board recommend
approval of two variances and denial of the third one. I want to explain what those variances
were. There was a rear setback variance that the request to be waived five feet and one inches
[sic]. There's a front setback variance that the requested to be waived was only six inches, and
there was a footprint variance. Planning Department recommend denial because there is no
hardship to justify any type of variances in this site. However, the Zoning Board recommend
approval of the front setback variance because it was only six inches and approval of the
footprint. However, they did not recommend the rear setback variance. If the rear setback
variance is not approved, the footprint is -- variance is not needed, so it was a contradiction in
the recommendation of the Zoning Board. The Department is recommending denial of the three
variance based that there is no hardship to justify this. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Is the applicant here?
Yamerys Mazaret: Comments in Spanish.
Chair Sarnoff Wait, wait, wait. One segundo. Where is --? One more time. Una mas.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Chair, if you would give Victoria your --?
Chair Sarnoff I will.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you. We apologize. I'm sorry, Victoria.
YamerysMazaret(asinterpretedbyAssistantCityAttorneyVictoriaMendez): Hello. Good
afternoon. My name is Yamerys Mazaret, and I'm the property owner at 4330 Northwest 32nd
Place. We're here today because we bought this property. The -- at which time, after the fact,
they told us that there was a violation. And we are presenting -- we presented three variances in
where two were approved already. One had to do with the lot coverage that was at 42 percent
and it needed to be at 40 percent, and the other one had to do with the front setback that was 20
percent and we only had 19.8. But what was denied was the one that was very important, the
one that has to do with the back setback that has to be at ten feet and now it's at 4.1 -- 4.11, I'm
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sorry. We've spoken to all the neighbors and none of them have any objection. We have a letter
from the back door neighbor who's the one that's most affected and he has no objection. That's
what the letter says. We would like to resolve this problem because that's where we live and we
need that area. Where that part of the property is is where our master bedroom is and the other
one is a storage. The rest is -- has to do with the children's rooms. That's why we really need for
the Commission to help us with this, because we want to make sure that everything's legal and
not to have any problems. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. All right, let me open up a public hearing on PZ.2. Does anybody
wish to be heard on PZ.2?
Mariano Cruz: Me. Okay. Mariano Cruz, 1227 26 Street. No. I make a point of watching
Channel 77 and I saw that case May 10, and it surprise me, the Zoning Board, the way they treat
the lady over there and they freat another lady that have a lot more problem, but you know, she
made a mistake. She came dressed with a strapless thing and she spoke Spanish, so all right,
two strikes against her. And she was asking for only a variance of 4.11. Another lady came
after, you know, dressed in a power suit, nice, everything, spoke flawless English. No problem.
And she got -- and she was asking for 17 feet in a rear back of 20 feet. So even Ms.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) say, oh, you are a nice lady. So you know, all that. So it is not what you
bring in paper. It's how you look (UNINTELLIGIBLE). You look good, you get a lot of good
points for you. And that shouldn't be the way. People -- they should be judging the people --
and these people, they say -- I even met them here. I came here. They didn't told me. I came
here on my own because I watch it and I see. It's abuse of the power. And even the Mayor has
said we have to help the people that got problem with the housing because a lot of people, they
bought an old place there, been fixing it, they got problem with it, they fixing it, they paying tax
to the City, solid waste fee and everything (UNINTELLIGIBLE). They being good citizen.
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) being five years from Cuba, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) maybe. Fifteen years
from Cuba and they want to realize American Dream. Well, now the American Dream is
becoming the American nightmare, not the American Dream. So I am asking that they work --
they got to be treated like the other lady (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 17 feet. Oh, (UNINTELLIGIBLE),
no problem. You're a nice lady. Well, these are nice people too, working people from the
neighborhood. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Anyone else wishing to be heard on PZ.2, please step up. Hearing
none, seeing none, coming back to this Commission.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized for the record.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a couple of questions. I have some
questions. Director, can you come to the mike? Mr. Lavernia.
Chair Sarnoff Administration.
Commissioner Suarez: Can you please come to the microphone? Thank you, sir. I just would
like a little bit of an explanation on this. The back -- what -- they have -- the backside -- 'cause
the one I think that's in contention is the backside one, right, the back five feet? What's the issue
there exactly? Is that a -- is that part of the home or is that an addit -- a different structure?
Mr. Lavernia: It's part of the home. It was an addition to the home.
Commissioner Suarez: That's part of the home?
Mr. Lavernia: Yes, sir.
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Commissioner Suarez: Okay. I kind of agree with Mariano, you know, that these people are
trying to comply with the law. They're here trying to comply with the law. And we have a lot of
people who are violating the law and who don't care that they're violating the law and
particularly in our community. And as you mentioned, they came without a lawyer. You know,
they don't speak the native language, and they're simply frying to realize the American Dream,
and I don't see any reason that -- none of the neighbors are objecting. I have received no
comment cards. None of the neighbors are objecting.
Mr. Lavernia: That will be -- the answer will be known to the Hearing Boards office. We don't
receive those letters, so I don't -- I have no answer.
Commissioner Suarez: And there's no one here -- no one came to the Zoning Board meeting --?
So -- right. No. I saw that. I saw the letter from the back door neighbor, which would be the
most affected party in this case. I'm going to move to accept this request as it was stipulated by
the Zoning Board, with the exception of course that we agree with the set -- the -- you know, with
the setback, so it's a slight departure from -- okay. The Zoning Board approved it with those
conditions, correct --
Lavernia: No. The Zoning Board --
Commissioner Suarez: -- and then denied one aspect of it?
Mr. Lavernia: -- approved two variances, but do not approve the third variance.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. Then I move to approve all three variances.
Mr. Lavernia: So your motion is to grant the appeal?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Grant the appeal.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff All right, we have a motion. We have a second. Gentlemen, any discussion?
Commissioner Gort, you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: You know, one of the problems that we have in the City ofMiami for many,
many years in the past people build a lot of additions to their home without complying with the --
and the City allow it for many years. Now you have individuals coming in here, they buy a
home, they're not aware of the irregularity that exist in there, and they realize it after they close,
but they have a problem. Now one time I suggested that we have some kind of a ordinance
within the City ofMiami that anybody's going to buy a home, they should check with the NET
(Neighborhood Enhancement Team) office and make sure there's no violation, because my
understanding is this type of violation will not come out in a closing when somebody's going to
close on their property. So I believe we should take -- try to take care by doing this.
Commissioner Suarez: I just want to -- I happen to do closings as an attorney, and I want to tell
you that it's absolutely true, that it takes an incredible amount of due diligence on the part of a
buyer, due diligence that is normally not done. I would say 90 percent of transactions for small
homes like this, single-family residences, that kind of due diligence is not done 'cause it requires
coming to the City. You don't own the property 'cause you're the buyer, so you have to get some
sort of permission --
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Commissioner Gort: From the seller.
Commissioner Suarez: -- to seek records for a property that you don't own and then, you know,
you have to pull permits, you have to understand what those permits mean, you have to look at
surveys, you have to understand what those surveys mean. So it involves quite a bit of technical
knowledge and, you know, expense as well because most -- more likely than not, you're not
going to know how to interpret those -- that information so you're going to have to hire someone
to interpret it for you. I'd say 90 percent of the time it doesn't happen, so I agree with you
completely, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: Chair, ifI might. Before you take your vote, I just want to make sure we're
clear on the wording for your resolution. As we're looking at our packet here, then you are
granting the appeal?
Chair Sarnoff Right, he's granting the appeal.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. Reversing the decision of the Zoning Board and granting a variance. Is
that correct?
Chair Sarnoff Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right, so we have a motion. We have a second. All in favor, please say
"aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff PZ.3, is that still on the agenda?
Ms. Mazaret (as interpreted by Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez): Okay, thank you.
PZ.3 RESOLUTION
10-00484x
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), GRANTING THE APPEAL, REVERSING THE DECISION
OF THE ZONING BOARD AND THEREBY GRANTING A SPECIAL
EXCEPTION AS LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE
ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ARTICLE 9,
SECTION 924.11, TO ALLOW EXTENSIONS OF DOCKS AND PIERS INTO
WATERWAYS EXTENDING MORE THAN 35 FEET IN LENGTH, FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 921 VENETIAN WAY, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO PLANS ON FILE AND SUBJECT FURTHER TO A
TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12) MONTHS IN WHICH A BUILDING
PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
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Votes:
10-00484x Analysis.pdf
10-00484x Zoning Map.pdf
10-00484x Aerial Map.pdf
10-00484x Miami 21 Map.pdf
10-00484xApplication & Supporting Docs.pdf
10-00484x Plans.pdf
10-00484x ZB Appeal Letter.pdf
10-00484x ZB Reso.pdf
10-000484x CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
10-000484x CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
10-000484x Exhibit A.pdf
10-000484x CC 06-24-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
10-00484x-Submittal-PwerPoint Presentation-Simarly Approved and Constructed Dock:
10-00484x-Email-Similar Docks.pdf
Motion by Chairman Sarnoff, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Carollo
R-10-0280
Chair Sarnoff Is PZ. 3 still on the agenda?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Yes, yes.
Chair Sarnoff It is. Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Venetian Causeway.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah.
Roberto Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning): PZ.3 is also an appeal of a special
exception in order to grant the extension of dock for more than 35 feet in length for the property
at 921 Venetian Way, Miami, Florida
Chair Sarnoff Is -- let me ask you a question. Does DERM (Department of Environmental
Resources Management) have to approve this?
Mr. Lavernia: Yes, sir.
Chair Sarnoff Why are we hearing this?
Mr. Lavernia: The Planning Department recommendation was approval, subject to one
condition. This special exception is subject to the DERMfinal approval, meaning, if they cannot
get the DER Mfinal approval, the special exception is dead.
Chair Sarnoff Why --
Mr. Lavernia: However --
Chair Sarnoff -- would this Commission hear something pending a DERM approval? If DERVI
doesn't approve it, they're not going to get the dock. Why would you waste this Commission's
time?
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Mr. Lavernia: They have the right to apply and we need the obligation to listen.
Chair Sarnoff Why -- let me ask the question to you. Why would you come before this
Commission when you don't even have your DERM approval yet?
Bibi Villazon: IfI may explain the process. We initially applied to DERM DERMdoes their
biological assessment and they give us preliminary approval, which we do have a set of plans
with preliminary approval. We then have to go through the building, whichever municipality,
zoning and structural process, which is why we're here. Once we have plans that have zoning
and structural approval, we go back to DERM--
Commissioner Gort: She needs to identify herself.
Ms. Villazon: -- and then they give us their final approval.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. Chair --
Chair Sarnoff Please state your name for the record.
Commissioner Gort: Your name and address.
Ms. Villazon: Sorry.
Chair Sarnoff That's okay.
Ms. Villazon: Bibi Villazon, Trident Environmental, environmental consultant for the owner.
Chair Sarnoff So you're saying that we go first and we have to go first?
Ms. Villazon: No, you do not go first,; DER Mgoes first. They put a preliminary stamp on the
plans --
Chair Sarnoff Right.
Ms. Villazon: -- which means that, environmentally, they are okay with it, but the plans are then
subject to the Building's [sic] Code for zoning. They're also subject to the Florida Building
Code. DERM does not look at it from the building point of view.
Chair Sarnoff No. I understand that.
Ms. Villazon: So we go to the City. The City determines whether it's in compliance with their
zoning regulations and the building regulations. We go through the regular four fourth process,
and once we have zoning and building approval or structural approval, goes back to DERM,
and DERM only looks at it from the environmental. They say, okay, you have your City building
permit. You now -- we will give you the final approval.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Villazon: And then we have a DERV permit.
Chair Sarnoff Let's -- let me hear from the City Attorney.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): That's the process, as I understand it. It's actually a
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separate evaluation. DERV makes its determination based on the considerations of the
placement and the wetlands and the grass and all of the things that DERM --
Chair Sarnoff My concern is this, Madam City Attorney. I don't want this Commission voting
on something only to have DERM turn it down, that is, an unnecessary -- unless you're telling me
this is the process.
Ms. Chiaro: This is the process.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Go ahead, present.
David Sacks: Mr. Chair, Commissioners. David Sacks, on behalf of the Ken Hill Investment
Group, Incor --
Chair Sarnoff I'm sorry. Hang on one second. Okay, it's been brought to my attention --
Ms. Thompson: But not her.
Chair Sarnoff Right. -- that you are a lobbyist?
Mr. Sacks: I am, and I'm registered. I'm --
Chair Sarnoff She is not.
Mr. Sacks: That is correct. She [sic] for informational purposes only, which is permitted by the
Code factually. She was just answering a question as to procedure.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. She will not be addressing this Commission?
Mr. Sacks: I will be addressing this position [sic].
Chair Sarnoff I understand. The lady sitting there, I'm sorry, what was your name?
Ms. Villazon: Bibi.
Chair Sarnoff Bibi, you will not be addressing this Commission any longer?
Mr. Sacks: Unless asked by you, of course.
Chair Sarnoff Well, I don't want to get into cutting hairs. Maybe I mistakenly asked her a
question or maybe she was mistakenly at a microphone. I have no intentions of waiving the
lobbyist laws of the City ofMiami.
Ms. Chiaro: The technicians -- the consultants can answer questions if they are not registered as
lobbyists. They can only answer questions if posed to them by the City Commission.
Chair Sarnoff All right. All right, proceed.
Mr. Sacks: Okay. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Commissioners. My name David Sacks, with
offices at 2 South Biscayne Boulevard, representing the Ken Hill Investment Group, which I will
just from hereinafter refer to as either Mr. Hill or Ken Hill from now on. We are here before you
today to seek a special exception for docks in excess of 35 feet as permitted by the Code, docking
facilities, that is. Also with me today is our team. You've met one of our team members, Ms.
Villazon; also Mr. James McKenzie and also Captain Herman Pundt, who is a marine consultant
contracted to ensure the safety and the proper building of boats and other marine -related issues.
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He is a -- basically a full-time captain for this particular property. Again, as I suggested, our
request is to seek a special exception for docking facilities in excess of 35 feet. Before you, you
should have a -- by now a copy of a kit that have handed out. Do the Commissioners have a
copy of the kit either in blue --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Mr. Sacks: -- or --? Okay. The way I'm going to begin my presentation -- I'll fry to be brief on
this -- is first, I'd like to say we received a recommendation for approval by staff previously.
That's point number one. Point number two is that with respect to some background
information, our client closed on this piece of property in November of 2009. Since that time,
our team -- and we have two consultants and one captain -- has been working with the various
agencies having jurisdiction over docking facilities. That includes the Department of
Environmental Resources Management, DERM, the County organization, the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection at the state level, and the Army Corps of Engineers at
the federal level. We have received approvals from all of these agencies. And in your kits, listed
as tabs number 1, 2, and 3, you can find those approvals. In addition, I'd also like to submit to
the Clerk a copy of DERM's -- and this may, Mr. Chair, go to your point a little bit earlier as to
what the process is. I do have a stamped preliminary approved plan, which is the typical
process in every city, whether it's the city ofMiami Beach, this city, or what have you within
unincorporated Miami -Dade County. I will hand that DER Mplan before you today to the Clerk,
and it's now been submitted. IfI could go through the kits briefly with you, tab number 1 is
probably the most important tab because what it does is it establishes the issue at hand. My
client is before this body today not by choice, but essentially because of the surrounding, I guess,
sea grasses, the surrounding property, the contours of the Biscayne Bay aquatic preserve. And
for that reason, we, or my client, cannot build a dock based upon water depth, sea grasses,
marine life, et cetera. In other words, adequate dock or adequate boating depth is not reached
at four feet until fifteen feet from the seawall. And so what the DERM letter before you -- the two
DERM letters before you under tab 1 establishes is that -- and again, this is a special exception,
but I'll call it a hardship in the lay terms. In other words, we cannot build a dock. If there was
adequate sea depth or water depth, say, from the seawall at four feet, we would not be before
you. But unfortunately, with the hurricanes and with things that happen over time, the bio
assessment was done as required by DERM and result was the letters that you see before you,
which basically state what had just mentioned. We cannot build a dock unless it's the one that's
before you. There's a second DERM letter that I'd like to call your attention, and I have some
highlighted language there that would just like you to flip to. It's the June 17 letter, 2010,
where it says that in order to comply with the County Code, that the Department is willing to
authorize the structures so long as the dock extends a maximum of 50 feet west of the property
line. In other words, because of the resources, the living, breathing animals, et cetera, because
of the depth of the water, for all of those reasons, we -- or DERM, rather, has built in a
constraint to our property that essentially says you can only build 50 feet west of that point on
the dock plan. And the dock plan is attached to that very same June 17 letter. So the furthest
point on the dock east is essentially what that letter reflects. Everything west of that dock is
where we are essentially building the current dock, pursuant to the plan before you. With
regards to the Florida Department of Environmental Protection of approval, you can see that
both proprietary and regulatory approvals were granted, and I could -- or verified, rather, and
granted. And the same thing is true for the Army Corps of Engineers. So we have our approvals
in place. The next step, which gets again back to the initial conversation when we first began, is
to be before you here today. The staff recommendation for approval both before the ZBA
(Zoning Board ofAppeal) and then today before you recommends approval, subject to going
back to DERM, which, again, is the typical procedure, for the record. Having said that, I think
I've established the fact that since November of '09, we've worked diligently to come up with a
dock plan that really works in light of the constraints as I had just mentioned. And in that
regard, my client is spending extra dollars because it's important for these sea grasses to be able
to survive and live. That's what the law says. So one of the things my client has done is put
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grating in that allows 43 percent of sunlight to penetrate through that grating. Another one of
the things that my client did was to actually raise the dock, again at the suggestion of the various
agencies and at the cost of my client. And we've essentially built this dock working with all of
these agencies together since November of '09. And so for the record, I'd like to submit that all
of these approvals have been received. And Madam Clerk, I don't know if you have a copy of the
kit that have before you containing all these approvals?
Ms. Thompson: We do.
Mr. Sacks: Okay. I'd like that to be entered into the record, along with the DERM approval.
Chair Sarnoff May I ask a question?
Mr. Sacks: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff You have a friangulation right here.
Mr. Sacks: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff On that friangulation, the exterior of the, I guess it would be, western side of the
dock is not within the triangulation.
Mr. Sacks: That is correct.
Chair Sarnoff Does that mean that is not part of your plan?
Mr. Sacks: No. That just means that the western part of our dock is outside the triangle. The
triangle is a DERM, I guess, guideline. Not a law, not a requirement; it's a guideline. And as
you'll see in the rest of my presentation -- because where I'm going to go from here is to talk
about the surrounding community of my client's property, which is located at 921 North Venetian
Way. So next, I will get into the community standards, which show how -- I would -- and I have
a number of docks that can show you that the facilities go beyond the D5 triangle that you're
mentioning now. I hope that answered your question.
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. Your -- the D5 triangle is what they fry to confine you within.
Mr. Sacks: Correct. However, that is not always the case since it's a guideline. What really
governs from all of the agencies, whether it's DERM, DEP (Department of Environmental
Protection), Army Corps of Engineers, it's really about the resources, the depth; it's about -- it
really takes all stakeholders into account, including the neighbors. Having said that, I'd like to
turn your attention now -- andl believe the PowerPoint presentation that's behind you is also in
front of you dais. Is that correct?
Chair Sarnoff Correct.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Mr. Sacks: I may, for the audience, just use a laser pointer, if necessary, ifI can dig it out of my
pocket. If not, I'll just follow or I'll -- I will articulate. As you can see, I've established for the
record the approvals we've received. Second, I'd like to show you the neighboring dock
structures on Venetian Drive. And as you can see, most of the docking facilities are out --
certainly in excess of 35 feet, if not larger. What we're seeking is a 45-foot dock that is really not
at the request of our client. It's at the request of the -- I guess you could say it's at the request of
the sea grasses in the Biscayne Bay aquatic preserve, if you will. So you can see there how we've
established a community standard for this particular area. The next slide, as you can see, shows
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docks located at the four properties shown, 891, 921, which is Ken Hill's property, 1041, and
1121. All of those properties have docks or docking facilities in excess of the 35 feet that we are
seeking now. It shows that there is precedent in the community for what we're seeking. The next
slide focuses on the 1041 property. As you can see there, there is a large boat and a 50-foot
dock, again, all to establish community precedent. As you can see by the next slide at 1121
North Venetian, I would submit to you the same thing, a dock, a large boat, and precedent. With
respect to the next slide, 891 North Venetian Drive, that too has docking facilities in excess of 35
feet. But I've also chosen this slide to show how you have two docks that are, more or less,
cramped together, if you want to call it cramped, but it still was permitted, it's still accepted, and
it's [sic] still has the ability to work as a single-family home with allotted docking facilities. The
very next slide is our property which shows the current dock as it exists today, which is also
referenced in the kit that have under tab number 5, which I will get to because it will show you
most specifically what we are seeking. And then, finally, on the next slide we have our proposed
dock diagram. Now let me explain this. What we are really seeking with respect to the
community standard or the community -- the surrounding community that I just established.
What we're really seeking -- and taking into account the D5 triangle, as you mentioned -- is, at
present, that yellow -shaded dock, which is the existing dock, at 33 and a halffeet. What we're
really seeking is nine and a halffeet, which is shaded in blue. That is really what we're seeking.
I will submit to you that we are also seeking the green area, but for the most part, the area at
issue, as it was raised at the Zoning Board ofAppeal, was largely the area in blue, which is only
nine and a halffeet. And that basically concludes the PowerPoint presentation that have
before you. What I'd also like to mention is the fact that all of these agencies that I've said
before take into account all of these living things, resources, sea grasses, manatees, navigation.
You name it, they all look at it. We have approvals for all of these different requirements
through the different agencies that have jurisdiction over these things that had just mentioned.
I would also like to state for the record that this is a special exemption. This is not a variance.
And for that reason -- and I'd like to call to Madam Attorney's attention, and I'd like to, ifI may,
Mr. Chair, read into the record the special exception requirements under the Florida Third DCA
(District Court ofAppeals) case, or would you like to do that, just so we can clarify what --?
Chair Sarnoff Why don't you give us what you think the legal standard is?
Mr. Sacks: Okay.
Chair Sarnoff She'll object when she thinks you're wrong.
Mr. Sacks: That's fine, if I'm wrong. Okay. The request for a -- a special exception is a
permitted use to which the applicant's entitled to unless it's determined that the use would
adversely affect the public interest. That's the key. Does this plan before you today adversely
affect the public interest, in light of of course, the surrounding community that I've established
and, of course, in light of the various approvals we've received to date? To continue with the
standard, once the applicant has demonstrated that there is compliance with the City ofMiami
criteria, then there is a shifting of the burden to any other party that's against this application.
We have shifted that burden by virtue of the fact that we have staff recommendation for approval
that have satisfied all of the City ofMiami Code criteria as contained in your packet.
Chair Sarnoff Can I ask you why the Zoning Board denied this special exception.
Mr. Sacks: Yes. In my opinion, I believe the Zoning Board ofApproval [sic] denied the special
exception because they were interpreting the hardship standard, in my opinion. They were
looking at this from a completely different reason, and that is also why, in an abundance of
caution, I've spent the time with you all today to read this standard so that it's very clear and in
the record, because it's very important and I -- again, you probably already know this, but if we
are denied here today, we cannot come back for another year. And my client purchased this
property in November of '09 with the best of intentions from moving to Texas as a businessman
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to moving to Florida hopefully to create jobs. I didn't plan on saying this, but you know, he
came to Miami to enjoy what everybody comes to Miami to do, enjoy the sun, enjoy the fun, all
those other things. He's an avid boater. In this surrounding area there's docks that basically
are even bigger than the one that he's seeking, and he's not even seeking it for his own reasons.
He's seeking it because that's what the agencies are telling him what to do.
Chair Sarnoff What does Mr. Ken Hill Investment Group do?
Mr. Sacks: Various things. Do -- you want to go that route because --?
Chair Sarnoff No. You said jobs. I was just curious. This Commission loves to hear about
jobs.
Mr. Sacks: Yeah. Well, that's kind of why I mentioned it, but I didn't plan on going that way.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Sacks: But that's what he would really like to do.
Chair Sarnoff All right, just checking.
Mr. Sacks: But to -- you can keep checking if you want, that's fine.
Chair Sarnoff Could we hear from your captain, just 'cause I love when the guys with the
captain stripes get up?
Mr. Sacks: Absolutely. And matter of fact, yes, he will. And I will also -- would you like to hear
from him now or can I finish up?
Chair Sarnoff I would, I would.
Mr. Sacks: Okay. Let me just make one more point, please. Actually, I'm almost done. The only
thing I'd like to ask for is just a moment of time for any rebuttal or cross-examination.
Chair Sarnoff We'll give you ample rebuttal time, counsel.
Mr. Sacks: Okay. Now, you would like to hear from our captain?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. I'm just -- I'm absolutely curious why you brought your captain, so I --
just being a maritime lawyer, I'd love to let the captain speak. They usually make the most sense.
Herman Pundt: Herman Pundt, 921 North Venetian. I won't talk as much he does, for sure.
Chair Sarnoff Well, tell us why you're here.
Mr. Pundt: I was here to address any concerns with navigation, safety. I actually have dove on
the areas that he's speaking of in regards to the coral, the sponges, the sea grass. I actually
know the water depth 'cause at 33 feet --
Chair Sarnoff What type of vessel does --?
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me. I'm sorry, Chair. Will you pull the mike up and --?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah.
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Mr. Pundt: Oh, I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff What type of vessel does Mr. Hill have and how many does he have?
Mr. Pundt: We have several vessels, but we have two within the state right now. One is a
27 foot Hacker -Craft --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Pundt: -- which is a single engine antique boat, and the other one is a 50-foot Fountain
Swordfish, which is --
Chair Sarnoff I represent Cigarette, so Fountain's not a good boat. I'm just kidding.
Mr. Pundt: Especially since I bought it during the bankruptcy.
Chair Sarnoff How many boats is [sic] he intending on keeping there?
Mr. Pundt: At the present, two.
Chair Sarnoff And how many can that dock hold?
Mr. Pundt: It can hold three.
Chair Sarnoff Three. And how many can the neighboring docks hold?
Mr. Pundt: Some of them have up to three.
Chair Sarnoff Up to three. So you'd be in that --?
Mr. Pundt: But most people have two boats and a jet -ski style boat.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Is his intention to rent this out to others?
Mr. Pundt: No, sir. The intention was to build it to the community standards so that he could
have what the other -- the direction that everybody else seem to be going so that when he got
here, say he had a nephew come in with a smaller boat, that they could also keep it there if they
trailed it in from Texas or one of the places they live.
Chair Sarnoff To your knowledge, captain, are others on that Venetian island renting out their
slips to others?
Mr. Pundt: Not to my knowledge, 'cause I actually looked for my personal boat.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Thanks. I appreciate it, captain.
Mr. Pundt: No problem. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Why don'tI do this, why don'tI open up to -- why don'tI open it up to
a public hearing. Anyone from the general public wishing to be heard on PZ.3, please step up.
You're recognized for the record, sir.
George Lopez: Yeah. George Lopez, from 911 North Venetian Drive. Well, this is the second
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time we've come up here. And the reason that we're objecting is that everything is always going
to the left side, to the west side. We're the property with the smaller lot, which is 75. Everybody
else -- he has 100. The guy on the east has 200. So everything is put up on the west side. I --
and I want to comment that why can't it be addressed and be put on the east side, which
everybody has the most lot and those people will not get affected by putting big boats like that?
Now the gentlemens [sic] did buy the property, and I know that's the best intention, but they
never came to us addressing what they were going to do, what they were planning to do, and see
if it was okay with us, so --
Chair Sarnoff And you -- where do you live next --? You --
Mr. Lopez: I'm on the west side. I'm the owner on the west side, and my property is only 75 feet,
his property is 100 and the people on the east side is 200, so why can't all this be addressed on
the east side? I have no problem him going 50 feet, 100 feet, whatever it takes, as long as it's on
the east side of his property. If the first dock, we gave the okay to the original owner because he
didn't want to put it on the center of his property, so I was okay in giving him permission to put it
on the west side because he didn't want his to be obstructed by his master bedroom looking out
in the water, so that was okay. But now we're just putting more stuff and he's putting three big
boats so it's going to obstruct more the triangle on my side. That's the reason that I'm --
Chair Sarnoff And your concern is that your master bedroom would be looking into a --? No?
Mr. Lopez: No. It's that --
Mily Lopez: Hi. Mily Lopez, 911 North Venetian Drive. Our concern is that when we first met
our first neighbors, the ones they bought from, he came over and he wanted to put his boat on
the western side of the triangle. We -- after several meetings, we decided okay, it's okay. It's
going to be on a lift. It's not a big deal, you know. We were fine. We wanted to be a good
neighbor. We allowed it. What happens now is this boat has created these other docks for them
to bring bigger boats. Now, not only are we just a few, which -- if you look at the triangle, the
original boat is -- mostly the whole entire boat and the lift is outside the triangle. Now you're
bringing in this other bigger boat into the triangle. And it's not only that. It's -- these are lifts. I
don't know if anybody knows about lifts, but they -- the boat does not sit entirely on the lift. It
sits partially on the lift. So we're talking 45 feet and another probably 10, 15. Who knows how
big that boat is? I mean, we're not sure exactly. It's a 40, 000 pound boat and there's two of
them. So we're not sure exactly how much into the waterway it's going to go. I'm concerned.
I'm the next -door neighbor. I don't want to see an accident. I've seen boats coming really, really
close to us. If you do look at those slides, you will see there is a line that everybody sticks to,
and we always fry to stick with the 35 under, and most of those are 35 and under. And if there's
any that are not, check because some of them are illegal docks. So you know -- and there's a lot
of illegal ones out there, so -- but the ones that are legal, they're all within the 35 feet, and
there's like a visionary -- visual line that you can see them all there. And they do not have three
boats. Most of them have one, maybe two. And they do have some jet ski -- some have jet skis:
But that's my concern. I'm very concerned that this is not only visually going into a triangle
that's already been set there; it's way out there. If anybody knows the Venetian backyard of the
water, there is -- it's like a channel. There's big yachts going by there, jet skis. There's all kinds
of vessels going by there. And now it seems like we're going to go another 20-something feet
when this boat gets totally on that lift. I mean, look at how big that boat is coming out.
Unidentified Speaker: That's a hundred feet.
Ms. Lopez: This is -- I don't know. I didn't -- I'm opposed to it. I'm not going to accept these
infringements on our property. These are visuals. They're hard to protect. But when you buy a
house -- and Marc, you should -- oh, excuse me. Commissioner Sarnoff, you should know.
We're like the little house between the two big houses. We allow this one to continue doing this,
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the next -door neighbor will do it. Next thing you know, we're going to be in the middle. We
won't be able to have access to our boats. I mean, right now we have a 19-footer. We have no
problem going in and out. But ifI wanted to put a yacht like that, I would not be able to. And
when I got my permit, DERM was not allowing you to go forward like that. They -- you had to
be parallel to your home. You were allowed to have one boat there parallel to your home. And
if you notice, most of these boats, they're all facing parallel. They're all with the back of your
property line. They're not in. They're going -- look at them. They're all hori -- they're parallel,
parallel to the backyard everybody. Everybody here is parallel. Where is -- where are these
boats that are supposedly going in? If any precedence has been set, it's that these boats are all
facing the same way. They're all going parallel to the property line. And if you look at them,
there's only one or two on the property. There's not all these boats --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Lopez: I'm sorry.
Chair Sarnoff Gotcha. All right, thank you very much.
Mr. Sacks: Mr. Chair, may I rebut that comment?
Chair Sarnoff No, not yet. Anyone else from the public wishing to be heard, please step up.
Mr. Cruz, you don't have an opinion on this one?
Mariano Cruz: I don't even own a row boat.
Chair Sarnoff I just wanted a comment, Mr. Cruz, to show you what kind of a culturally diverse
city this, consider we just heard PZ.2 and now PZ.3. You're recognized for the record, Ms. West.
Nina West: Okay. Hi. Nina West, 3690 Avocado Avenue, Coconut Grove. I just have one or
two things. First of all, you have a Zoning Board and the Zoning Board has really denied this
and it denied it for a reason, although the attorney doesn't seem to think it's a good enough one.
That's number one. And secondly --
Chair Sarnoff Were you on that Zoning Board?
Ms. West: Hum?
Chair Sarnoff Are you on that Zoning --?
Ms. West: No, I'm not. But I can watch TV (Television) just like everybody else. I happened to
see this one. And the second thing is it is not the responsibility of the City ofMiami to have -- to
maximize a return on an investment on any property and then, as long as you have use of your
property, it's not any kind of a hardship. So not only can they -- they can have a boat. It just
can't be as big as they want, maybe. They can't dock as big as [sic] boat as they want. And they
have waterfront, but they also have neighbors. And I think the neighbors should really be
considered. And it shouldn't be that the wealthiest person has the opportunity to destroy the
property value of someone else just because they have a lesser property. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Would you do me a favor and address your -- what you think the law
is one more time?
Mr. Sacks: I believe the law is, with respect to neighbors, two of which have just spoken, that
there should be no adverse affect to the neighbor after it's been established that we've satisfied
the City's own criteria, which we have done. We satisfied the City's criteria, which is why in both
cases there was a recommendation for approval. We've satisfied DERM's criteria, which is why
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we have a recommendation for approval.
Chair Sarnoff I thought you read me a case. I was hoping you could read the case to me again.
Mr. Sacks: Yeah. The case is a Third DCA case.
Chair Sarnoff Can you give me the cite?
Mr. Sacks: Yes. Give me a second to get to the cite, and I'll be more than happy to do that. It is
719 Southern Second 1204 Metro -Dade County, petitioner, versus Section 11 Property
Corporation.
Chair Sarnoff Is that a correct -- is that -- Madam City Attorney, before this is over, I want to
know that that's still good law, what he's about to read me. Go ahead, read me what you think
your legal standard is.
Mr. Sacks: The legal standard again is that a special exception is a permitted use to which the
applicant is entitled unless it is determined that the use would adversely affect public interest.
Now may I mention -- make another point or do you want to focus on that?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah. No. Go ahead. That's the legal standard. You think that's a --
Mr. Sacks: That is the legal standard.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Sacks: And once that has been established, as it has, then the burden shifts to show is this
current dock plan before you somehow adverse? Now we've heard about parallel. We've heard
about parallel parking of boats. We've heard about perpendicular parking of boats. There is no
legal requirement anywhere in South Florida that that be the case. I take that back. There's
certainly not in the City ofMiami, I can tell you that. And then as you can see it by the
PowerPoint presentation that I showed you, there's a mix. There just is. Secondarily, with
respect to the adverse impacts, is -- and I'd like to call your attention to tab number -- in your
kits, I'd like to call your attention to tab number 4, which is the proposed boat dock extension
and boat lifts. Again, tab number 4. What you see there with respect to whether or not we're
adversely impacting our neighbor to the west, which was the first neighbor that testified here
today -- the reason why the dock on the left, which is the west, with -- I believe it was Mrs.
Milagrosa [sicJ? I may be pronouncing it incorrectly. But --
Ms. Milagros: Milagros.
Mr. Sacks: Yes. -- the reason why it's in red is for two reasons. One, we're not moving it. We're
not touching it. We're doing nothing different. We're leaving it exactly where it is. With respect
to the site lines and all other issues, there is no difference. The fact is also that there is a boat
lift that's going to remain exactly where it is that once it's up in the air, it's going to be blocking
the new dock. That's just a matter of-- if you take a look at the visual, you can see that. And I
would also add, if you looked at the 921 property that's now on your computers, you can see,
again to the west or to the left of 921, the neighbor's property which is set so far back with
respect to windows, et cetera, with lush landscaping on the east/west border. So I would submit
to you that really nothing's changed with respect to their rights, and they're no more adversely
impacted now than they were before.
Chair Sarnoff Read me the standard. Permitted use entitled "unless an adversely affect" what?
Mr. Sacks: Okay. A special exception is a permitted use to which the applicant is entitled,
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unless it is determined that the use would adversely affect the public interest.
Chair Sarnoff The public interest.
Mr. Sacks: Public interest. And then once the applicant has demonstrated -- once Ken Hill has
demonstrated compliance with the applicable City ofMiami criteria, along with the other
agencies, federal, state, county, and city, once that's done the burden then shifts for this case.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Madam City Attorney, has he correctly stated the law?
Ms. Chiaro: Yes. He's correctly stated the standard for adverse --
Chair Sarnoff The case cite that he gave us ofMetro-Dade versus Section 11, 719 Southern
Second 1204, is that still good law?
Ms. Chiaro: We're still checking whether that's good law. It's my understanding that -- I have
not -- I have no argument with the general principle of the special exception and the standards
as stated, but we're still looking to make sure that the case as cited is good law.
Chair Sarnoff You don't keep LexisNexis by you or anything or --? No?
Ms. Chiaro: We're dancing as fast as the computer can take us.
Chair Sarnoff I gotcha, all right. Are you done?
Mr. Sacks: Well, if the case is good --
Chair Sarnoff If the case is bad, you've got a problem. Let me ask you a question with your --
this -- there was a suggestion that on a number of the slides you gave us, 891 -- 921 is you
obviously--1041, and 1121 -- do you have actual knowledge that those are permitted docks?
Mr. Sacks: I do not have actual knowledge that they're permitted docks. The purpose was to
show that there's a community standard out there. And I would say that -- I mean, I would say
that this particular area -- there was probably Code enforcement all over these docks. I can tell
you that I've represented a number of clients that have had Code enforcement issues for exactly
this reason and they add up. Oh, I've just been advised by our team that they are permitted.
Chair Sarnoff They are permitted docks? Okay. No, no, no. We're done. I just want to find
out if the law is correct.
Ms. Chiaro: So I am told that it's not flagged as being overturned at all.
Chair Sarnoff All right. I'm going to make a motion to approve. It would appear that based
upon the special exception that he is permitted unless he adversely affects the public interest.
While I feel for the folks just to the west, that dock is only moving nine feet. Most of the
triangulated dock exists -- oh, sorry. I apologize. Most of the dock exists to the east. You know,
it's really tough to tell a person who spends a lot of money on their property that you can only
use a certain percentage of their [sic] property, especially in a maritime setting. People buy
these homes for the expressed intention of using them for dockage. I mean, he's got the right to
do pretty much what he wants to do. I think -- under the law, I don't think we have a choice but
to grant this special exception. So that's my motion.
Commissioner Suarez: There's a motion by Chairman Sarnoff. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
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Commissioner Suarez: Second by Commissioner Gort. All those in favor, signify by saying
"aye."
Ms. Thompson: IfI might, Acting Chair. I always want to make sure -- because this is an
appeal, I want to make sure the language is correct. Your motion is to grant the appeal?
Chair Sarnoff That is correct, grant the appeal.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. Reversing the decision of the Zoning Board?
Chair Sarnoff That is correct.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. And granting the special exception?
Chair Sarnoff Correct
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: All those in favor, signify by saying "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Commissioner Suarez: All those opposed have the same right to say "nay." Let the record
reflect that there are no nays.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Sacks: Thank you.
Ms. Chiaro: Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: I just wanted to make sure that the record reflected that the approval contained the
conditions set forth in Planning. That's how this petition has come. And that the petitioner has
accepted those petitions [sic], butt wanted to make sure that the improval [sic] included them.
Mr. Sacks: The condition -- there is -- my understanding is there's one condition that said
DERM's final approval. We accept that. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff All right.
PZ.4 RESOLUTION
09-01464za
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION DENYING OR
GRANTING THE APPEAL, AFFIRMING OR REVERSING THE DECISION OF
THE ZONING BOARD, THEREBY UPHOLDING OR REVERSING THE
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR INTERPRETATION DATED DECEMBER 16,
2009, RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING SIGNS, REGARDING A PROVISION CONTAINED IN
ARTICLE 10 OF ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE
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PZ.5
10-00044x
ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
09-01464za ZB Appeal Letter & Supporting Documents.pdf
09-01464za ZB Reso.pdf
09-01464za ZB Backup - Zoning Administrator Appeal Letter & Supporting Documents.r
09-01464za CC Fully -Executed Legislation (Version 3).pdf
09-01464za CC Fully -Executed Legislation (Version 4).pdf
09-01464za CC 07-22-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
APPELLANT(S): Bob de la Fuente, Esquire, on behalf of Outlook Media of
South Florida, LLC
FINDING(S):
OFFICE OF ZONING: Recommended denial of the appeal and uphold the
zoning administrator's interpretation.
ZONING BOARD: Denied the appeal on March 22, 2010 by a vote of 6-1.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal may result in the reversal of a zoning
interpretation.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
Note for the Record: Please refer to "Order of the Day" for minutes referencing item PZ.4.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), DENYING OR GRANTING THE APPEAL, AFFIRMING OR
REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD AND THEREBY
GRANTING OR DENYING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED IN
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, TO ALLOW A
PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOL, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 1742 AND 1744 SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE, AND
TWO UNASSIGNED ADDRESSES, HAVING FOLIO NUMBERS
01-4139-008-0070 AND 01-4139-008-0060 AND 1737 AND 1745
SOUTHWEST 2ND COURT, AND TWO UNASSIGNED ADDRESSES,
HAVING FOLIO NUMBERS 01-4139-008-0080 AND 01-4138-001-5550;
MIAMI, FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO PLANS ON FILE AND SUBJECT
FURTHER TO A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12) MONTHS IN WHICH A
BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
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PZ.6
10-00044x-a
10-00044x Analysis.pdf
10-00044x Zoning Map.pdf
10-00044x Aerial Map.pdf
10-00044x Miami 21 Map.pdf
10-00044x Letter of Intent.pdf
10-00044xApplication & Supporting Docs.pdf
10-00044x Plans.pdf
10-00044x ZB Reso.pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Supplemental Page.pdf
10-00044x ZB Appeal Letter.pdf
10-00044x CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
10-00044x CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Exhibit A.pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Exhibit 1pdf
10-00044x CC 06-24-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 1742 and 1744 SW 2nd Avenue, and Two
Unassigned Addresses, Having Folio Numbers 01-4139-008-0070 and
01-4139-008-0060 and 1737 and 1745 SW 2nd Court, and Two Unassigned
Addresses, Having Folio Numbers 01-4139-008-0080 and 01-4138-001-5550
[Commissioner Frank Carollo - District 3]
APPELLANT(S): W. Tucker Gibbs, Esquire, on behalf of Brickell View West
Apartments, Inc., Adjacent Property Owner
APPLICANT(S): Estrellita Sibila, Esquire, on behalf of Barim at Brickell, LLC,
Wetbri Group, LLC and Ignacio and Lourdes Zulueta, Owners and AV
Development Group, LLC, Contract Purchaser
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial of the appeal and approval
with conditions* of the original request.
ZONING BOARD: Approved the Special Exception with conditions* on March
22, 2010 by a vote of 6-1. See related File ID 10-00044x-a.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal will not allow a primary and secondary
school.
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
Note for the Record: Item PZ.5 was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently
scheduled for September 23, 2010.
Note for the Record: Please refer to "Order of the Day" for minutes referencing item PZ.5.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), DENYING OR GRANTING THE APPEAL, AFFIRMING OR
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REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD AND THEREBY
DENYING OR GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED IN
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, TO ALLOW A
PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOL, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 1742 AND 1744 SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE, AND
TWO UNASSIGNED ADDRESSES, HAVING FOLIO NUMBERS
01-4139-008-0070 AND 01-4139-008-0060 AND 1737 AND 1745
SOUTHWEST 2ND COURT, AND TWO UNASSIGNED ADDRESSES,
HAVING FOLIO NUMBERS 01-4139-008-0080 AND 01-4138-001-5550;
MIAMI, FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO PLANS ON FILE AND SUBJECT
FURTHER TO A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12) MONTHS IN WHICH A
BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
10-00044x Analysis.pdf
10-00044x Zoning Map.pdf
10-00044x Aerial Map.pdf
10-00044x Miami 21 Map.pdf
10-00044x Letter of Intent.pdf
10-00044xApplication & Supporting Docs.pdf
10-00044x Plans.pdf
10-00044x ZB Reso.pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Supplemental Page.pdf
10-00044x-a ZB Appeal Letter.pdf
10-00044x-a CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
10-00044x-a CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Exhibit A.pdf
10-00044x & 10-00044x-a Exhibit 1pdf
10-00044x-a CC 06-24-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 1742 and 1744 SW 2nd Avenue, and Two
Unassigned Addresses, Having Folio Numbers 01-4139-008-0070 and
01-4139-008-0060 and 1737 and 1745 SW 2nd Court, and Two Unassigned
Addresses, Having Folio Numbers 01-4139-008-0080 and 01-4138-001-5550
[Commissioner Frank Carollo - District 3]
APPELLANT(S): John K. Shubin, Esquire, on behalf of 1701 Brickell
Condominium, LLC and Peacock Development, LLC, Adjacent Property Owners
APPLICANT(S): Estrellita Sibila, Esquire, on behalf of Barim at Brickell, LLC,
Wetbri Group, LLC and Ignacio and Lourdes Zulueta, Owners and AV
Development Group, LLC, Contract Purchaser
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial of the appeal and approval
with conditions* of the original request.
ZONING BOARD: Approved the Special Exception with conditions* on March
22, 2010 by a vote of 6-1. See related File ID 10-00044x.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal will not allow a primary and secondary
school.
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09-01453e
Motion by Vice Chairman Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff and Suarez
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Dunn II
Note for the Record: Item PZ.6 was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently
scheduled for September 23, 2010.
Note for the Record: Please refer to "Order of the Day" for minutes referencing item PZ.6.
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
CITYWIDE
HONORABLE MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION REGARDING THE STATUS UPDATE ON THE PENSION
AND UNION NEGOTIATIONS.
09-01453e Discussion Page.pdf
09-01453e-Submittal-Memo-Mayor Regalado.pdf
DISCUSSED
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Let's do the Mayor -- the Mayor's issues. I believe the easiest way to do
this, gentlemen, is DL 1.1 [sic], which is page 18, and M.1, which is page 26. DI. 1.1 [sic] is the
budget. M.1 is the pension and union. And why don't we give the Mayor the latitude of how he
wishes to proceed? You're recognized for the record, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning. We have several items to
report to the Commission and the public, as promised. We are updating in every Commission
meeting the labor negotiations between the City ofMiami and the four collected [sic] bargaining
units. The City now is currently in negotiation with all four labor unions. The City gill/Pamirs
team held two bargaining sessions with Local 587, that's Fire, since invoking Florida Statute
447.4095. The most recent session was held on Friday, May 21, 2010. On May 27, 2010, the
City notified PERC (Public Employees Relations Commission) that it was at impasse with the
Local 587. James Mastrioni was selected as the special magistrate for the impasse proceeding.
The parties have requested for Mr. Mastrioni to propose dates for the hearing. In addition,
Local 587 filed a suggestion for certification to the Florida Supreme Court with the Third
District Court ofAppeals on June 8, 2010. If granted, the Florida Supreme Court has the
discretion to accept or not the case. The City filed its reply to the suggestion for certification to
the Florida Supreme Court and is awaiting a ruling from the Third District Court.
Notwithstanding the above, the City contacted Local 587 on June 15, 2010 and June 22, 2010,
proposing future negotiation sessions. The City ofMiami and FOP (Fraternal Order of Police),
Miami Lodge 20, met on June 7, 2010, and as we speak, they're meeting today. The City of
Miami andAFSCME (American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees), Local
907, held their second bargaining session on June 9, 2010. To date, the City and AFSCME,
Local 1907, complete and agreed upon seven contract articles. The parties are scheduling a
third bargaining session. The City ofMiami andAFSCME, Local 871, met on June 9, 2010, and
are scheduled to meet today, June 24. In addition, the City's negotiation team and elected
official [sic] will be meeting today in an executive session. I think we are moving fast. Just
wanted to mention that this is not unique to the City ofMiami. It is interesting to check the
national press. We've seen The New York Times article that Colorado and Minnesota have
curtail cost -of -living increases in pension. They already did that. The San Diego suburb of
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Chula Vista, in California, voted in favor of Proposition G, which bans project labor agreement
with contracts. It's a sign of the times. And, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, we will be reporting
to you more in the executive session as soon as you end the morning session.
DISTRICT 1
COMMISSIONER WIFREDO (WILLY) GORT
DISTRICT 2
CHAIRMAN MARC DAVID SARNOFF
DISCUSSION ITEM
CHAIRMAN MARC D. SARNOFF WOULD LIKE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
CITY OF MIAMI'S "HEAD COUNT".
CHAIRMAN SARNOFF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY FULL-TIME
EMPLOYEES WERE EMPLOYED AS OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2009 AND HE
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WERE
EMPLOYED AS OF JUNE 15TH, 2010.
DISCUSSION WILL COVER THE MEDIAN INCOME OF A CITY OF MIAMI
EMPLOYEE.
DISCUSSION WILL COVER THE MEDIAN INCOME OF A CITY OF MIAMI
RESIDENT.
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EFFECT OF "HEAD COUNT" ON THE CITY OF
MIAMI BUDGET.
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE "HEAD COUNT AND THE BUDGETING
PROCESS.
10-00320 Email.pdf
10-00320-Submittal-District 2.pdf
DISCUSSED
Chair Sarnoff All right, I think the only thing we have is some blue page items. Mr. Manager,
D2.1, we had a blue page issue discussing the City ofMiami's headcount. I was hoping that you
could address that briefly.
Michelle Pina: Hi. Michelle Pina, director of Employee Relations, City ofMiami. We have to
report that our headcount has gone down for full-time employees since the last time we reported
to the City Commission. We are now at 3,531 full-time employees since our last report to the
City Commission. Our last report was, I believe, in April.
Chair Sarnoff I'm sorry. Could you do the numbers one more time?
Ms. Pina: We're currently at 3,531 full-time employees. That's not including part times or
temps.
Chair Sarnoff And we were where at the last time?
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Ms. Pina: The last time we reported to the City Commission, which I believe was in April, we
were at 3,549.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Ms. Pina: Not including part times and temps.
Chair Sarnoff And I think the headcount could be found on that catalog of documents that you
gave us earlier today?
Ms. Pina: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff All right. Thank you, Mr. Manager, and thank you for educating me. The
headcount is not necessarily the only issue that demonstrates revenues from an employee side.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): I can also tell you that the dollar amounts in compensation
been leveling or at the same for April, May -- April and May.
Chair Sarnoff Which is -- earlier today, as you discussed, we had made no progress with
reducing this deficit.
Mr. Migoya: That's correct.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. The second -- thank you, Mr. Manager, by the way, for discussing this.
And thank you very, very much to the Human Resource Department, which I don't think gets a
whole lot of credit. But gentlemen, you received a book today that I suspect took them many
hours of creating. It includes the headcount. It's the first part of your statistical data there. So I
just want to say to Michelle Pina very nice job. I want to say to Greg Anderson very nice job,
and thank you for keeping this Commission informed.
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROLIFERATION OF SPRAY PAINT MARKINGS
ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
SOMETIMES THE SIDEWALKS ARE EXPENSIVE BRICK AND SOMETIMES
THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE PLASTIC OVERLAY.
OFTEN THESE MARKINGS ARE RELATED TO UTILITIES BUT THEY ARE
ALWAYS UGLY AND OBTRUSIVE.
DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE
THIS VISUAL POLLUTION.
10-00583 Email.pdf
10-00583-Submittal-David Sacks.pdf
10-00583-PowerPoint Presentation - Utility Markings in City of Miami.pdf
10-00583-E-mail-PowerPoint-Utility Markings in City of Miami.pdf
10-00583-Submittal-David Sacks-DERM Approval of Building Plans.pdf
DISCUSSED
Direction by Commissioner Sarnoff to the Administration for the Department of Public Works to
consult with the CityAttorney's Office and create a plan, within 60-90 days, that begins to
reduce the amount of graffiti on sidewalks.
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Chair Sarnoff D2.2, Mr. Manager, is something near and dear to my heart, and anybody that
happens to live downtown or near or close to downtown should be near or [sic] dear to their
heart, and that is the sprayed markings on the streets and the sidewalks by either FPL (Florida
Power & Light), AT&T (American Telephone & Telegraph), Cox Cable, or anyone who is about
to go into a sub -- into the underground. And I understand that our new Public Works director
has done a pretty interesting PowerPoint presentation. I've seen little pits [sic] of it. It's worth
seeing, gentlemen. It'll only take about ten minutes. You are recognized for the record, sir.
"[Later...]"
Chair Sarnoff All right. You ready?
Nzeribe Ihekwaba (Director, Public Works): Yes, sir.
Chair Sarnoff State your name for the record, introduce yourself. We haven't heard a lot from
you.
Mr. Ihekwaba: My name is Nzeribe Ihekwaba, Public Works director, City ofMiami.
Chair Sarnoff I've been told no jokes.
Mr. Ihekwaba: You've been told what?
Chair Sarnoff Just kidding.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Oh, okay. Can I start?
Chair Sarnoff Absolutely, sir.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Sure. Okay. I was tasked to the -- to look into the problem of utility markings
within the City ofMiami rs right-of-way. By utility markings, what we are concerned about are
only the invalids or leftovers. Those are utility markings that had been abandoned by
contractors or demolition workers within the City's right-of-way. Essentially, I've actually
deterred (phonetic) what are the basic problems confronting the Public Works Department,
which is a public concern. Utility markings are strewn all over the pavement and sidewalks and
they tend to conforming to being an eyesore or graffitis [sic], which is something that some of us
have been talking about for a while. The invalid utility markings are those that are left over
after the completion of work. No known entity appears to be responsible for the removal of these
markings, according to state law. The Underground Facility Damage Prevention and Safety Act,
which is a state law, Chapter 556, regulates utility locations within public right-of-way. And
essentially, Sunshine State One Call is the entity that is entrusted with regulating or managing or
administering the location requests. When a contractor makes a location request, utility
markings are triggered. The main concern is usually among the major utility owners, which
perhaps could be F -- Florida Power & Light, Miami -Dade County Water & Sewer, as well as
BellSouth. Some of you may have seen some of these colorful markings along the pavements or
sidewalks. I've given you a brief legend of what those colors mean. Principally, red is for
electricity, which is Florida Power & Light. Yellow is your gas company. And blue is potable
water. Green is sanitary sewer. Valid tickets are actually meant to prevent damages and
accidents within the public right-of-way and also to guide excavators or the demolition workers
from endangering themselves or creating a major catastrophe. Members are entities that use
underground facilities, such as gas, water, sewage; or services, telephone, electricity, or Internet
access. Membership is mandatory. The City ofMiami hopes to become a member soon. Some
of the requested tickets are essentially, by law, not required to last more than 30 days, according
to current practice, and they're supposed to be renewed every 30 days. So that's what the
problem is, constantly they're being renewed even when construction has been completed. If
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portions of a job site covered only tickets are complete, some of the contractors' home office tend
to have a habit of renewing those tickets. So we're going to look into possibilities or
recommendations on how to handle future utility markings within the public right-of-way. There
are certain recent legislative actions that have taken place. In 2007 the City Commission passed
a resolution 07-0360, that urged counties and municipalities in the state of Florida to support
the amendment of the existing state law. In 2010, essentially in February, Miami -Dade County
passed resolution R-189-10, calling and echoing the similar sentiments of the City ofMiami
resolution. However, the state Legislature passed a new law that was contrary to what the City
and the County had requested for.
Chair Sarnoff Amazing.
Mr. Ihekwaba: And this amendment comes into effect on October 1, 2010. Essentially, we have
only three months to formulate a response to this new law on how to implement our own
response program. A summary of the amendments to the state law calls for what we call "Low
Impact Markings." The low impact marking provisions tends to minimize the amounts and types
of paints that's going to be used by utility owners within a public right-of-way. However, the
new state law amended requires that the City Commission may not require utility owners to
obtain permits to identify their facilities or to require them to mark their facilities or even at that,
we do not have the rights or the jurisdiction to force them to remove those markings. Remember,
this language is for utility owners. There are other additional requirements which is not of
interest today. What would be the basic recommendation from my point of view as a
professional? Public Works have looked into this require -- the new law. We've coordinated
with a law service request with the Law Department of the City, and the basic response will be to
follow the revisions to the Florida law with certain mandates and provisions. In which case, we
will adopt the Low Impact Markings, which is a major, major improvement to the previous
practice. In Low Impact Markings, from my understanding, is supposed to last for only eight
days instead of thirty. Remember, this has not been really tried out and practiced in the field.
However, the state law still requires that they be renewed as long as long as the construction site
is active. It requires a change in the type and durability of the paints. It requires the paints to
have reduced shelf life, like I said, from 30 days to 8 days. What will be the City requirements?
Obviously, they have to be supplemental and within the purview of the state law. This would
require Code revision or an ordinance that will mandate options to implement. I have already
spoken to City staff. It probably would require collaborative efforts to administer a removal of
utility markings. Obviously, this will be within Public Works, Building Departments [sic], CIP
(Capital Improvements Program), Code Enforcement, and perhaps the NET (Neighborhood
Enhancement Team) office. The removal of the markings would not be a mandate on the utility
companies in order to be in full compliance with state law. However, it is our recommendation
from Public Works that only permittees or the entity that request these markings that will have to
be able to get it to remove them at their own costs. For CIP and other City projects, the
recommendation is to have CIP update their general conditions of contracts and perhaps have
certain amendments or changes in the procurement process. The confractor will be fully
responsible for removing the utility markings as part of their project work. The City will insure
performance by retaining funds payable to the confractor until makings are removed completely.
How do we hope to achieve this? We will focus on utility markings during monthly or progress
certificates for payments. Obviously, the construction manager needs to be resourceful and
prudent. At project completion, if a confractor has not removed any and pending utility
markings -- remember, these are the invalids, the ones that are no longer active -- it becomes
part of the punch list. Final payment will be accounted for by making sure that we factor in the
removal cost of the utility markings. For private projects or non -City projects, perhaps any
future development agreements would have to include language that requires invalid markings to
be removed upon work completion. For right-of-way projects or governmental agency projects,
the permittee or entity that requests these markings will be able to get it to remove them at their
own cost. The City can only remove markings and pass through those costs to the permittee or
the agency that request the markings. There is a potential vehicle to use to recover costs.
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Currently, the Code -- the City Code in Chapter 54-42 mandates the Public Works Department
to retain restoration bonds for work along the public right-of-way. That is a potential vehicle to
recover any City cost in removing those markings that are left over. For other private projects,
the removal markings will become part of the TCO (Temporary Certificate of Occupancy)
process. The Public Works Department will work in collaboration with the Building
Departments [sic] to implement a prudent process during the TCO and CO (Certificate of
Occupancy) process to make sure that markings are removed promptly upon completion of
projects. Any leftover markings could be captured using the punch list inspections originated by
-- and the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) markings originated by the developer or contractor would
required to be removed before the TCOs are approved. The implementation of obviously
requires legal provisions, perhaps through an ordinance, and that would have to come from
either the Public Works Department or the Building, depending on if it's on the public
right-of-way or on the private side. It's my recommendation that the City needs to take a
position that is only supplemental to the state law and not in conflict with the state law.
Obviously, like everything about life, the implementation will be imposed cost impact on
construction, so you're looking at an escalation in City projects costs or maybe construction
costs by the private sector. Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff How can we start you drafting or would you work with either the CityAttorney's
Office coming up with what we can supplement what policy and procedures internally we can
change, but I'd like you to be primarily in charge of doing that. I'd like to know that in 60, 90
days that we have a plan that will at least start the process of reducing the graffiti on the
sidewalks and that we do the best practices we can, in light of the fact that the legislator [sic]
chose to implement by five -sixths.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Yes. As the director of Public Works, I'm fully available and committed to carry
out any instruction. We will work with the -- I will work with the Law Department as -- and as
are directed to make sure that there is adequate legislation drafted in order to bring us into
compliance --
Chair Sarnoff Great.
Mr. Ihekwaba: -- with the new regulation.
Chair Sarnoff Thank -- you know, for whatever it's worth, he overheard the discussion on the
dais; he took it upon himself prepared this PowerPoint presentation -- I mean, that -- I don't
know. My hat's off to you. Been here for, I think, a while; you're the first person to ever do that.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir.
Commissioner Dunn: Thank you for being proactive.
Commissioner Gort: You have one minus with me. You were supposed to have met with me
today at 8:30 in the morning --
Mr. Ihekwaba: Yes, I was. I was. I --
Commissioner Gort: -- and I don't know what happened.
Mr. Ihekwaba: -- forgot my --
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Commissioner Gort: He never showed up, but --
Mr. Ihekwaba: I apologize.
Commissioner Gort: -- nonetheless, as you're doing this, this inspection, right now we're looking
at the construction that the -- Miami -Dade County's doing right here on 27th Avenue, and there
seems like they be fixing in some of the repairs. I want to make sure when you checked on this,
and what ordinance will take place from us, when you check with the signs, also to make sure
that they comply when they repair what they -- whatever they destroy, that they come up to the
standard they should be. Right now, if you look through City ofMiami, you will see a lot of
those places where they're being opened by Water and Sewer, by Miami -Dade County, and the
utility companies. When they do their repair, they never match the existing roads that we have.
So that's something that whenever your inspector goes in to check about the graffiti, they could
also check on those things to make sure that they comply with it.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Okay. For your information and for the information of the Commission, the
project along Southwest 27Avenue by Water and Sewer is only a precursor to the roadway
reconstruction project by the County. There is an additional project coming after the Water and
Sewer project. It's going to entirely and completely reconstruct 27Avenue up to US 1.
Commissioner Gort: I want to make sure they do that throughout the City 'cause I --
Mr. Ihekwaba: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: -- I can assure you, a lot of places and streets within the City and sidewalk,
that they have not been repaired.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Okay. We'll look into that, sir.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Thank you.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. I just want to say very much, thank you --
Mr. Ihekwaba: Thanks.
Chair Sarnoff -- for being as proactive as I've ever seen an employee.
Mr. Ihekwaba: Thank you, sir.
Chair Sarnoff Anyone else? Otherwise, I think that's it.
DISTRICT 3
VICE-CHAIRMAN FRANK CAROLLO
DISTRICT 4
COMMISSIONER FRANCIS SUAREZ
DISTRICT 5
COMMISSIONER RICHARD P. DUNN, II
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NON AGENDA ITEMS
DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION BY MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO ON THE STATUS
OF FLAGSTONE NEGOTIATIONS.
DISCUSSED
Mayor Tomas Regalado: We also have to report -- I know you have heard this before -- that
talks with Flagstone are going on. And what we can tell you is that before the next meeting, you
will have plenty of time to have all documents and everything before you. And before going to
print, you will have all the information in terms of the Flagstone.
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Office of the Mayor A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN
DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE REFINANCE OF THE SECTION
108 LOAN FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT LOAN B-90-MC-12-0013, RELATING TO
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN PARK WEST; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM(S), FOR SAID PURPOSE.
10-00831 Legislation.pdf
10-00831- Exhibit.pdf
10-00831-Exhibit 2.pdf
10-00831 Original Agreement.pdf
10-00831-Submittal-Correspondence-Mayor.pdf
10-00840-Submittal-District 2.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Vice Chairman Carollo, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 5 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Sarnoff, Suarez and Dunn II
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Mayor Tomas Regalado: Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, I also have a pocket item that I
know it's not in the agenda. However, it's a resolution of the Miami City Commission
authorizing the City Manager to sign documents in connection with the refinance of the Section
108 loan from the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development; authorizing
the City Manager to execute the necessary documents for said purpose. What this is, is we are
trying to send HUD (Department of Housing and Urban Development) this [sic] documents.
This will save the City $400, 000 if we are able to get this loan that we are paying to HUD
approved and a rectify rate is approved by HUD. So these are some of the items we need to
report to you on the budget. I don't know if you want to do the pocket item now or later.
Chair Sarnoff Let's take up the pocket item for discussion. Anybody -- does everybody
understand the Mayor's pocket item, or do they wish to do any further probe?
Commissioner Gort: I'm ready to make a motion.
Chair Sarnoff Ready to make a motion? All right. Why don't we take the Mayor's item up.
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Commissioner Gort makes a motion.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Chair Sarnoff Is there a second?
Vice Chair Carollo: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Second by the Vice Chair. Any discussion, gentlemen? Hearing no discussion,
all in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Mayor Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioners, we save $406, 000 with this
communications [sic] to HUD.
DISCUSSION ITEM
COMMISSIONER GORT RECOGNIZED FORMER MIAMI CITY
COMMISSIONER VICTOR DE YURRE IN THE COMMISSION
CHAMBERS.
DISCUSSED
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff Yes, sir.
Commissioner Gort: If you don't mind, I would like to recognize former Commissioner Victor
De Yurre, who's visiting us today.
Commissioner Dunn: He got me.
Commissioner Suarez: Where is he?
Chair Sarnoff Oh, there he is.
Commissioner Suarez: Oh, there he is.
Commissioner Gort: There he is.
Chair Sarnoff Back there.
Commissioner Gort: He's lost about 20 pounds and he's looking good.
Chair Sarnoff Living, I think, happily on Miami Beach now though.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Victor De Yurre: (INAUDIBLE) sun tan. You know, watching you guys on TV (Television).
DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DESIGNATION BY MAYOR
TOMAS REGALADO OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER/CHIEF OF
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OPERATIONS TONY CRAPP, JR. AS CITY MANAGER FOR VARIOUS
DATES IN JULY AND AUGUST.
10-00839-Submittal-Memo-Mayor.pdf
DISCUSSED
A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Dunn, and was
passed unanimously, to approve the designation by Mayor Tomas Regalado ofAssistant City
Manager/Chief of Operations Tony Crapp, Jr. as City Manager for various dates in July and
August.
Chair Sarnoff Now we go into the Planning and Zoning items.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Mr. Chair.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized for the record.
Mr. Migoya: IfI may, just before you do PZ (Planning & Zoning), I just want to make -- go on
the record to let you know each of you have a memo from my few days on the -- July, that I'm
going to take some days off and that Tony Crapp will be acting as City Manager.
Vice Chair Carollo: I make a motion to ratify that.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Chair Sarnoff Do we need to do that?
Commissioner Gort: I didn't get it.
Mr. Migoya: Sorry?
Chair Sarnoff I didn't get the memo either, by the way.
Commissioner Dunn: You didn't get it? I got it.
Vice Chair Carollo: No.
Mr. Migoya: I got a extra copy.
Commissioner Gort: How 'bout [sic] the five-day rule?
Chair Sarnoff Yeah, I think I'm going to enforce the five-day rule.
Vice Chair Carollo: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) wait.
Chair Sarnoff This will actually have a financial impact to the City. You're free.
Unidentified Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Chair Sarnoff All right, let's move to the P&Z items. I guess you have to do the P&Z swearing
in.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, yeah, but don't we have to take a vote to ratify?
Chair Sarnoff No. Apparently, she says no.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Madam City Attorney, the Madam City Clerk is asking whether we have to
ratify this, and I specifically remember speaking to you and Julie Bru about it, where we do have
to ratify.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): It is -- the appointment of a --
Vice Chair Carollo: Acting.
Ms. Chiaro: -- acting or interim City Manager by the Mayor is with the approval of the City
Commission.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Thank you for that clarification, because what I heard was
you're ratifying the request for vacation.
Vice Chair Carollo: No.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: No.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. So you're -- it's a acting appointment.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, acting of Tony Crapp as the acting City Manager.
Ms. Thompson: So we do need the motion.
Commissioner Dunn: And a second.
Vice Chair Carollo: I made the motion and I think Commissioner Dunn second it.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Chair Sarnoff All right, we have a motion and we have a second. Any discussion, gentlemen?
All in favor, please say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONER SARNOFF REGARDING A
REQUEST FROM THE MIAMI CHILDREN'S MUSEUM TO APPLY FOR A
COUNTY GRANT WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY OF MIAMI'S CONSENT.
DISCUSSED
A motion was made by Chair Sarnoff seconded by Commissioner Suarez, and was passed
unanimously, authorizing the City Manager to sign a consent form allowing the Miami
Children's Museum to apply for a County grant.
Chair Sarnoff Tell you what I'll do is --I happen to have a pocket item, Mr. Manager, that I'd
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like to bring up and anyone -- I'm told the Miami Museum is applying for a grant at the County
to make its Watson Island facility very green. This will help get the museum new energy efficient
air conditioning, lighting, and solar equipment. The grant requires application and the consent
of the property owner, which, as you all know, is the City ofMiami. The City has zero financial
involvement in the County grant. This -- the Museum simply needs the City to say it's okay to
apply for the County grant. The grant application deadline is imminent, and I would move to
authorize the City Manager to sign the consent form to allow the Museum to apply for the grant.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Chairman Sarnoff. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right, say "nay." Motion passes
unanimously.
Chair Sarnoff Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Manager. Might have been a little bit of a prodder
for you.
DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONER GORT REGARDING VACANT AND
ABANDONED PROPERTIES.
DISCUSSED
Commissioner Gort: I have a pocket item.
Chair Sarnoff Okay. Oh, that's right. You have two pocket items, I think.
Commissioner Gort: Hum?
Chair Sarnoff Two, don't you?
Commissioner Gort: Yeah. A couple of things. One the problems -- the biggest complaint I'm
getting and I'm sure all of you are getting is the vacant houses, vacant buildings. They're being
used by drug addicts. They're being used by all kinds of people breaking in. They're using all
kinds of waste. And it's becoming a nuisance in our neighborhood. And the banks own -- most
of the banks (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Do we have a law that we can force the banks to do -- or the
property owner to do something about this property? I mean, this is creating a lot of problem
because you had the drug addicts go into these homes. You got people living in this home.
They're not complying with the regulations that we have. I mean, this has really been a
nuisance.
"[Later...]"
Chair Sarnoff Well, we had some Neighborhood Stabilization money that could have been used.
Interestingly enough, we chose to use it to help people buy homes, which is an interesting use of
that money. However, for every one person who loses their home and that affects that one
person, two people are still paying their mortgage and are trying to do their very best. But as
every one out of three, one out of every four homes goes by the way side, it affects the
neighborhood. I don't -- and I know the NTSP [sic] money was from the fells, and I think we
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might have used some stim (stimulus) money too. I think we have to start being a little less
concerned about getting people into homes and maybe preserving the neighborhood itself by
making sure -- what happens is we fall short getting these people into homes, and I think we all
know that. It's almost impossible for government to put somebody in a home. But what we can
do is stabilize the neighborhood, spend some money in the upkeep or the grooming of that house
so it doesn't feel like every fourth house, every fifth house is abandoned. And I know that came
from the N -- the Neighborhood Stabilization money could have been used to do that. We didn't
do it.
Commissioner Gort: I don't believe, legally, we do can some of this -- what is the process legally
to knock down any of those homes?
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Oh, if there's a structure that's declared uninhabitable,
we can demolish. We have to go through a process, though, to have it declared that way. Or the
Building official can declare it uninhabitable, but we can't tear it down then, right?
Commissioner Gort: We have a couple of buildings that we've been trying to report. The bank
who owns the property, they're trying to comply but there's -- they're not doing anything, and this
has been a long time now.
Chair Sarnoff We -- little bit of institutional memory.
Commissioner Gort: I mean, this is safe --
Chair Sarnoff No. I --
Commissioner Gort: -- properties. I mean --
Chair Sarnoff Right. I --
Commissioner Gort: -- they're not unsafe properties.
Chair Sarnoff -- these are houses that are not going to get knocked down --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Sarnoff -- because they're structurally sound, but --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Chair Sarnoff -- the windows are broken or someone's kicked in the door.
Commissioner Gort: And they walked in and --
Ms. Chiaro: But if you remember, last year we passed an ordinance --
Chair Sarnoff Right. That's what I --
Ms. Chiaro: -- related to vacant and abandoned properties where those properties have to be
registered; and if they are owned by a bank, the bank can be cited and the bank can -- the bank
is then required to maintain the buildings. This is a process of enforcement. So you know, I can
tell you that we have the mechanism in terms of an ordinance on the books.
Commissioner Gort: Well, my question is -- we do have the mechanism, but it's not being
applied and that's my problem 'cause -- I mean, and I've been calling and we've been sending --
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and I know staff is trying to do as much as they can, but somehow we've got to force those people
to secure those homes.
Chair Sarnoff From a Commission standpoint, Mr. Manager, we've given you every tool in the
box necessary to stabilize a neighborhood, especially in terms of vandals, especially in terms of
people living in a house. If your response is I don't have the resources to enforce that, you need
to tell us because -- the end of day, when we do the next budget, we simply need to know that.
Because I'll tell you what -- I know we lost some Code Enforcement inspectors from the last year.
I actually thought we should have increased Code Enforcement because you could make a very
persuasive argument, you net money with them versus a loss in money, but I think we need to
know it, like Commissioner, you may have passed this ordinance 18 months ago, six months ago,
we haven't even enforced it. Graffiti, for instance, you and I had a conversation on that. We
know we passed a graffiti ordinance; we haven't even implemented it and we know why. But I
think, as Commissioners, we need to know what kind of resources we need to give you 'cause I --
you know, somebody came in my office the other day and they said, you know the worst thing you
could do as a Commissioner, go pass an ordinance and do nothing with it because somebody's
going to pick that up someday and ram it down your throat, you know, somebody who runs
against you. And they're essentially right. Anyway, I know you want to speak, Commissioner.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I've dealt with this issue a lot since I've been
elected and I've tried to spend a lot of time on it. From my understanding -- and the City
Attorneys that are here can verify what I'm going to say or dispute it if I'm not correct -- that
there's two types of Code Enforcement violations. One of them is the kind that runs on a
day-to-day basis and it grows and can grow, and then the owner can come in and mitigate that
fine and walk away essentially having paid a tenth, a twentieth, a fiftieth. There's another kind
of Code violation -- or fine that becomes a priority lien on the property prior even to mortgages,
even to first mortgages on the property, and that -- those are the kinds of liens that are
established when we spend money to make a property compliant. Now it doesn't have to be a lot
of money, but any kind of money that's spent to improve the property creates a Code
Enforcement lien that has a priority over a first mortgage, and those are the kinds of liens -- so
for example -- in terms of your example with a vacant home, if we were to demolish that home --
if it were unsafe and we were to demolish it, that's a priority lien. We can foreclose that lien.
We would get back dollar -for -dollar, every single dollar that we spent, and we would get a -- you
know, we would get our attorney's fees and costs and everything paid back. So it would be a
good investment for the City because one of two things would happen here, either "A,"
somebody would buy it on the courthouse steps or -- someone would satisfy it before it gets sold
at auction, "A"; B, it gets sold at auction, someone buys it, we get paid;; "C, " no one buys it; we
end up with a property at, you know, fraction of the cost and we could turn that into a pocket
park. We can do all kinds of things with it. So I think what we need to do is we need to take a
look at how we can spend our money judiciously, money that we're going to get back -- It's a
good investment 'cause we're going to get it back either in "A," "B," or "C" scenario. -- and
start changing our method of Code enforcement from the one where we are just citing people
and having these fines accrue, you know, ad nauseam, and then people come in and chop them
down to the one where we're using them as a priority lien and then we're enforcing that lien by
suing them to foreclose that lien and getting our cost back in the process.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Chair Sarnoff You're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: By the way, let me add. The Code Enforcement and Public Works have
done a great job, and every time we send a complaint, they take care of it. But there comes a
time when they cannot go beyond because it comes to a legal matter.
Ms. Chiaro: I'm sorry; I didn't understand what you said.
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Commissioner Gort: Okay. Code Enforcement goes, fines the individual; that fine will continue
to run, but there's nothing we can do legally.
Ms. Chiaro: Well --
Chair Sarnoff Well -- wait, wait, wait. This city -- this has been an issue with -- this is -- you hit
it right on the head. I wish you were here three years ago 'cause I tried to get the City Manager
to do exactly what you said, which is let's start foreclosing on these banks that are never going to
let us foreclose. And remember, the market was much better than. And I got blank looks, like we
can't do that. Then they came up with this pot of money. Remember the pot of money, $750,000,
and we were going to start foreclosing?
Ms. Chiaro: Yes. Because when -- once you start foreclosing, you --
Chair Sarnoff Right.
Ms. Chiaro: -- there are some costs to doing the foreclosures and that's --
Chair Sarnoff Tell me how many properties we foreclosed on.
Commissioner Gort: None.
Ms. Chiaro: I -- we --
Chair Sarnoff You know what? I don't think we ever foreclosed, but we had that 450 or 750 --
every Commissioner was asked to pick three properties in his area to foreclose upon. Remember
that day?
Ms. Chiaro: I do remember that. I remember that. There was -- there were properties sent --
Commissioner Gort: That was before us.
Chair Sarnoff It was -- yeah, it was before you guys.
Ms. Chiaro: -- for approval to then put the money up to foreclose and that has not happened.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, may I, please?
Chair Sarnoff Absolutely.
Commissioner Suarez: The money to foreclose is somewhere in the vicinity of 300 to $500 per
foreclosure case, so we're not talking about a lot of costs.
Ms. Chiaro: No.
Commissioner Suarez: The cost is minimal.
Ms. Chiaro: No. I understand.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. And we're -- and you're going to get the money back, regardless.
I think -- when I did my investigation, I also discovered that we had never foreclosed, as far as I
know, on a Code enforcement lien, and so I got into the whole discussion about the priority of it
because if it were a fine that had a secondary priority, then it wouldn't -- you know, then the
bank wouldn't have to satisfy it. If it had a primary priority, if it was first in line, then the bank
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would have to satisfy it, so we would get our money back, so we would have compliance. We
would get our money back or we would have a demolition and we would get our money back or
we would have that property in our possession after no one bids on it at the foreclosure sale,
which, by the way, right now is the best chance that we would have for that kind of scenario to
happen because of where the real estate market is.
Chair Sarnoff I mean, he's dead right. It's what we've been trying to --I mean, I know that I
have --
Ms. Chiaro: I under -- I -- we are ready to move forward on it. I suggest --
Chair Sarnoff Well, here's what I suggest we do.
Ms. Chiaro: We have -- okay.
Chair Sarnoff Because when we do the next budget, we have got to create a res of money that
we believe -- maybe you'll do the statistical analysis. There's so many liens out there, priority in
nature -- Commissioner Carollo has ten in his neighborhood. Commissioner Gort has five in his
neighborhood. And the other thing I'll remind you guys is do not -- if you want to have a clean,
proper city -- whatever proper means -- but --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Chair Sarnoff -- a clean, well -run city, it's going to take Code Enforcement officers, and we
depleted the number we had from last year. And if we're going to move forward as a city, we
have to look at those guys as tools and we've got to fund them properly. We have to have an
adequate number of Code Enforcement officers.
Commissioner Suarez: I would even go as far as saying -- Mr. Chairman, ifI may? -- and you
can correct me if I'm wrong, Madam Attorney -- we would even get our attorney's fees
reimbursed.
Chair Sarnoff You would.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: So whatever attorney we would hire to fore -- to specifically foreclose
these issues, we could get her fees -- her own salary paid for by these people, so it wouldn't even
-- it would be completely revenue neutral to the City if we did it right. And I have to say that -- I
want to thank the City Manager for helping me with one specific property in my district, you
know, and I just want to thank you for that, Mr. Manager.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): IfI may, we'll come back to you at the next meeting and give
you a report. There has been an attempt to foreclose on several properties.
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Migoya: The issue is that because values are down, most of these properties have had
mortgages and their values, after the mortgage, has been not enough to -- worth a foreclosure,
so that's been an issue as well.
Chair Sarnoff Well -- but the priority lien scenario couldn't be a year old. I don't think we
passed that a year ago.
Ms. Chiaro: Little -- I think it was a little more than year ago.
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Chair Sarnoff Was it a year?
Ms. Chiaro: And we followed through. I mean, what we're looking at here in this packet is --
looks like more than 15 memos from the Office of City Attorney --
Mr. Migoya: Right.
Ms. Chiaro: -- following through on the issue of --
Chair Sarnoff But if we're --
Ms. Chiaro: -- targeting --
Chair Sarnoff -- a priority, nobody's going to prime us.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Migoya: I know that. I think the --
Chair Sarnoff The mortgage doesn't. That's what we were told. I can --
Ms. Chiaro: We haven't tested it.
Chair Sarnoff No. I --
Ms. Chiaro: And certainly --
Chair Sarnoff -- it could be as unconstitutional as hell, but --
Ms. Chiaro: -- it doesn't impact homestead properties. But what -- I think that between the City
Attorney's office and the Manager's office, not -- there is a will and the law in place to move
forward on what you're talking about. What needs to be created and needs to come back to you
is not only the money, but the commitment to the group of people who are going to follow
through, make the determinations, finalize, and go forward with the foreclosures or with
whatever we need to do to get these properties foreclosed on and get (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Mr. Migoya: There's -- she's right -- at least 15 or more cases going from February '09 to May
of '10 --
Chair Sarnoff That's about --
Mr. Migoya: -- that -- which are -- they've been looking at. But if you allow the CityAttorney's
Office and ourselves to review these and look at what we can and cannot do and get some
opinions around those things, we'll come back to you and --
Chair Sarnoff Would you come back to us? Would you also come back to us just to learn where
we are in the priority lien situation 'cause --
Mr. Migoya: Right. Well, that's part of --
Chair Sarnoff -- that may be a different scenario? That's -- and you may say, you're never
going to prime a bank. We attempted to, but --
Mr. Migoya: -- the exercise.
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Chair Sarnoff Right.
Mr. Migoya: We got to figure out the resources in Code Enforcement, the resources in the City
Attorney's Office, where we are with priority liens, et cetera, et cetera, and all that, and what
monies we need --
Chair Sarnoff Okay.
Mr. Migoya: -- and all the above.
Chair Sarnoff Very good. All right, anything else, gentle --? Oh, you have one more, didn't
you?
Commissioner Gort: That's it.
Chair Sarnoff That's it.
DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONER GORT REGARDING LARGE
HOLES LEFT IN THE GROUND BY UNFINISHED CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS IN ADDITION TO DILAPIDATED OR MISSING FENCES USED
TO SECURE THESE AREAS.
DISCUSSED
Commissioner Gort: And the second one that I have is something that we addressed about three
or four month [sic] ago. There's a lot of individuals -- because -- that they were going to build
something and they created the holes or the foundation for the building and so on. Those holes
are still open. The fences are not really being kept up. Because one of the things that people or
homeless or whoever, the fences are being taken down and they sell it. So we got to make sure
that we can do something.
Commissioner Dunn: Commissioner Gort --
Commissioner Gort: I think Vicky's been working on it.
Chair Sarnoff Anybody here to hear our cries or --?
Commissioner Dunn: May I?
Chair Sarnoff Go ahead, Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: I just want to echo what -- Commissioner Gort, I have the same problem,
and I've been screaming and hollering 'cause I -- certainly, I know we've talked with Public
Works and Code Enforcement and all -- even the -- to look into the demolition process 'cause
that is a major, major issue in my district.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, and was
passed unanimously, to adjourn today's meeting.
Chair Sarnoff Motion to adjourn.
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Vice Chair Carollo: So moved.
Commissioner Gort: Moved.
Chair Sarnoff All in favor?
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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