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Meeting Minutes
Thursday, February 25, 2010
9:00 AM
PLANNING & ZONING
City Hall Commission Chambers
City Commission
Tomas Regalado, Mayor
Marc David Sarnoff, Chairman
Frank Carollo, Vice -Chairman
Wifredo (Willy) Gort, Commissioner District One
Francis Suarez, Commissioner District Four
Richard P. Dunn 11, Commissioner District Five
Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
City Commission
Meeting Minutes February 25, 2010
CONTENTS
PR - PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
MV - MAYORAL VETOES
AM - APPROVING MINUTES
CA - CONSENT AGENDA
PH - PUBLIC HEARINGS
RE - RESOLUTIONS
PART B
PZ - PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM(S)
M - MAYOR'S ITEMS
D1 - DISTRICT 1 ITEMS
D2 - DISTRICT 2 ITEMS
D3 - DISTRICT 3 ITEMS
D4 - DISTRICT 4 ITEMS
D5 - DISTRICT 5 ITEMS
Minutes are transcribed verbatim. Periodically, agenda items are revisited during a meeting.
"[Later...]" refers to discussions that were interrupted and later continued.
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9:00 A.M. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Vice Chairman Carollo, Commissioner Gort, Commissioner Suarez and Commissioner
Dunn II
Absent: Chairman Sarnoff
On the 25th day of February 2010, the City Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, met at its
regular meeting place in City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular
session. The meeting was called to order by Chair Marc David Sarnoff at 9: 23 a.m, recessed at
11: 56 a.m., reconvened at 2: 06p.m., recessed at 4:30 p.m., reconvened at 4:40 p.m., and
adjourned at 4: 57 p.m.
ALSO PRESENT:
Julie O. Bru, City Attorney
Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager
Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk
Vice Chair Carollo: Good morning, and welcome to all. The City ofMiami Commission
meeting for February 25, 2010 is now called to order. Chairman Sarnoff could not be with us
today, so I, Frank Carollo, will be your Chair. Andl am joined by my honorable colleagues,
Commissioner Francis Suarez, Commissioner Willie Gort, Commissioner Richard P. Dunn; also
on the dais, City Clerk, Priscilla A. Thompson, City Attorney, Julie O. Bru, and we have the
presence of our honorable Mayor, Tomas Regalado. Today's meeting has been properly
advertised, andl would open it up by asking my colleague, Commissioner Dunn, if he will lead
us in a prayer, followed by Commissioner Suarez, if you will lead us with the pledge of
allegiance.
Invocation and pledge of allegiance delivered.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Commissioners.
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
PR.1 10-00182 PRESENTATION
Honoree Presenter Protocol Item
Office Depot Mayor Salutes
& Miami Regalado
Heat Staff
Players
Officers Jose Mayor Salutes
F. Pastor Regalado
and Luis Pla
Allapattah Haitian Commissioner
Relief Effort Gort
Abamaster Appreciation Plaque
Amaro Food Appreciation Plaque
Enterprise
Presidente Appreciation Plaque
Supermarket
National Pallets Certificate
of Appreciation
Kiko's Certificate
Wholesale Inc. of Appreciation
Jetro Cash Certificate
and Carry of Appreciation
Florida Lumber Certificate
of Appreciation
Family & Son Inc. Certificate
of Appreciation
I Am Latin Certificate
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America of Appreciation
Restaurant
Rex Chemical Certificate
Corp. of Appreciation
Genaro Certificate
Produce Inc. of Appreciation
Next -Port Inc. Certificate
of Appreciation
Concession Certificate
Nation of Appreciation
10-00182 Protocol.pdf
PRESENTED
1. Mayor Regalado presented Salutes to Office Depot andMiami Heat Staff for championing the
City of Miami's mission to provide a nurturing, joyous, and safe community for children by
uniting to entertain over 150 inner-city children at American Airlines Arena for a Miami Heat
regular season basketball game.
2. Mayor Regalado presented Salutes to Officers Jose F. Pastor and Luis Pla in appreciation of
their outstanding service to the community through exemplary entertainment and crime
prevention presentations for senior citizens.
3. Commissioner Gort presented Appreciation Plaques to Abamaster, Amaro Food Enterprise,
and Presidente Supermaket in recognition of their generous humanitarian aid to the Haitian
Disaster Relief Effort.
4. Commissioner Gort presented Certificates of Appreciation to National Pallets, Kiko's
Wholesale, Inc., Jetro Cash and Carry, Florida Lumber, Family & Son, Inc., I Am Latin America
Restaurant, Rex Chemical Corp., Genaro Produce, Inc., Next -Port, Inc., Concession Nation,
Osvaldo Capote, and Armando Rodriguez in recognition of their important contributions to the
community in support of the Haitian Relief Effort.
Vice Chair Carollo: We're going to go on now with the presentations and proclamation. At this
time, I would like to recognize the Mayor, Tomas Regalado, reference salutes to Office Depot
andMiami Heat Staff/Players. Mr. Mayor, you're recognized for the record.
Presentations made.
MAYORAL VETOES
NO MAYORAL VETOES
Vice Chair Carollo: And, Madam City Clerk, are there any Mayoral vetoes?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No, sir. There are none.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am.
APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS:
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, to APPROVED
PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, to DEFERRED
PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
ORDER OF THE DAY
Note for the Record: The item was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently scheduled
for March 11, 2010.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, before we take the non -agenda item, I would like to see ifI
could get a motion for the minutes.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: And the motion will be for the January 14 meeting because from whatl
saw, the January 28 meeting were not complete. So the motion will be for the January 14
meeting, correct? I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn.
All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no. " Motion passes
unanimously. Can I get a motion for a deferral for the January 28 meeting?
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any
discussion? All in favor, say "aye.'
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
END OF APPROVING MINUTES
Vice Chair Carollo: That concludes our presentation and proclamation. And at this time I
would like to start our regular meeting. Madam City Attorney, if you could read -- please read
the procedures for the record?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Good morning, Mr. Vice Chair, members of the Commission, Mr.
Mayor, Madam City Clerk and the public. Any person who's a lobbyist must register with the
City Clerk before appearing before the City Commission. A copy of the Code section about
lobbyists is available at the City Clerk's office. The material for each item that is on the agenda
is available during business hours and [sic] at the City Clerk's office and online at Miami -- at
www.miamigov.com. Anyone who wishes to appeal any decision made by the Commission for
any matter considered at this meeting may need a verbatim record of the item. No cell phones or
any other noise -making devices are allowed in the chambers. Please silence those now. Any
person who makes offensive or unruly remarks or becomes unruly will be prohibited from further
attending Commission meetings. Any person with a disability or requiring auxiliary aids, please
notnj, the Clerk. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Madam City Attorney. Andl would like to add to the
procedures that you mentioned. As we know, the City ofMiami has adopted Mason's rule of law.
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But regardless whether it's Mason's rule of law or Robert's, the consensus is that before any
person speaks, they address the Chairman and wait until the Chairman recognizes that person.
So I ask my colleagues to please help me and make sure that, you know, it is properly addressed
through the Chairman in order to have the decorum and professionalism that this historic
building and all of us deserve. And with that said, I definitely do not want to be misinterpreted
where I want to hold off or not allow anyone to speak because I think if you've been to any of the
meetings, I welcome debate. I welcome discussion. So the purpose of this is just so no one
speaks -- or no one tries to speak one over the other and so forth. So I ask my colleagues to
please help me with this. Thank you.
[Later...]
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I know you have quite a few items, and I'm going to move them
up for you. However, before I do --
Mayor Tomas Regalado: No problem.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- yeah, give me a second because I want to see how many deferrals we
have and so forth so I could get a grasp on the meeting. And at the same time, we got to start
trying out the new Manager already.
Mayor Regalado: I don't get paid overtime or sick time so --
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent.
Mayor Regalado: -- I'm here.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Manager, do you, or any Commissioner, have any deferrals,
continuance, or withdrawals?
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Yes, Mr. Chairman. We have two deferrals to March 11,
CA.1 and CA. 2.
Vice Chair Carollo: CA.1 and 2?
Mr. Migoya: And 2, yes. And then the withdrawal ofRE.4.
Vice Chair Carollo: Hold on one second.
Mr. Migoya: Commissioner --
Vice Chair Carollo: The deferrals are CA.1 and CA. 2.
Mr. Migoya: Deferrals to March 11.
Vice Chair Carollo: And they're to March 11.
Mr. Migoya: And then on behalf of Commissioner Sarnoff, we have a withdrawal of RE.4.
Vice Chair Carollo: Let's -- Can we take the deferrals first, Madam City Clerk?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): As far as voting, you mean?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
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Ms. Thompson: You can do one of them for all of these --
Commissioner Gort: All together.
Ms. Thompson: -- because I think, if I'm not mistaken, your day -- your -- you only have two
with a date certain, so the other one is gone. So you can handle them.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. And -- so CA.1 and 2 is going to be deferred. And I'm sorry, Mr.
Manager, the next one --
Mr. Migoya: Hang on. I'm being corrected here my first day on the job. Sony. We have a
misunderstanding. We're only deferring to March 11, CA.1, not CA.2.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's why I was surprised. Okay. So CA.1 is what we're deferring.
Mr. Migoya: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: To March 11, correct?
Mr. Migoya: Correct. We need -- the thing on CA.2, we need to pull it to make an amendment
on the record.
Vice Chair Carollo: It's a substitute, correct?
Mr. Migoya: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. We have a deferral of CA.1. What was your second deferral --
withdrawn, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Migoya: The other was a withdrawal ofRE.4 --
Vice Chair Carollo: RE.4.
Mr. Migoya: -- on behalf of Commissioner Sarnoff.
Vice Chair Carollo: Perfect. Give me a second. Anybody else has any --? Madam City
Attorney?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Yes, Mr. Vice Chair. RE.2 should be withdrawn also. It's moot.
Vice Chair Carollo: RE.2?
Ms. Bru: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Are there any other deferrals, withdrawals, or con --?
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to defer PZ.4 and PZ.5 to the next Planning and
Zoning meeting.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez, if we could do the PZ (Planning & Zoning) items
separately --
Commissioner Suarez: Sure.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- when we do the Planning & Zoning. Thanks. Any other for the regular
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meeting? Do I hear -- can I get a motion for the deferrals of CA.1 to March 11 and the
withdrawals ofRE.2 andRE.4?
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Suarez. Do I have a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Gort. Any discussion? All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no. " Motion passes
unanimously.
[Later...]
Commissioner Suarez: Thank -- one other thing Mr. Chairman, ifI may. I have -- at 2I have to
be at the MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) for one agenda item. They are making it a
time certain item. So if -- I would respectfully request that any PZ (Planning & Zoning) items
that are related to my district if they could be tabled until return?
Vice Chair Carollo: Not a problem.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll try to get back as quickly as possible.
Vice Chair Carollo: So 2 o'clock, gentlemen?
Commissioner Dunn: That's fine.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: We stand in recess.
CONSENT AGENDA
CA.1 10-00126 RESOLUTION
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Public Works ATTACHMENT(S), ACCEPTING THE BID OF TRAN CONSTRUCTION, INC.,
PURSUANT TO INVITATION FOR BIDS NO. 09-10-002, RECEIVED
DECEMBER 1, 2009, FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "CORAL WAY
MEDIANS LANDSCAPING (SECOND BIDDING), M-0057", FOR A TWO (2)
YEAR PERIOD, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,664.32,
FOR A TOTAL TWO (2) YEAR CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $301,328.64,
TOTAL BID, AS STATED ON THE FORMAL BID DOCUMENT AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT FACT SHEET, WITH THE
OPTION TO RENEW FOR UP TO THREE (3) ADDITIONAL ONE (1) YEAR
PERIODS, IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,664.32;
ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS, FROM ACCOUNT NO. 00001.202000.534000;
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AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID PROJECT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE SAID
OPTIONS TO RENEW SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING AND
THE CONTRACTOR'S PERFORMANCE.
10-00126 Legislation. pdf
10-00126 Exhibit.pdf
10-00126 Summary Form.pdf
10-00126 Bid Form.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
DEFERRED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Note for the Record: CA.1 was deferred to the City Commission meeting currently scheduled for
March 11, 2010.
CA.2 10-00132 RESOLUTION
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Capital ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
Improvements AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, WITH
Program MIAMI-DADE COUNTY WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT, FOR THE
PROVISION OF WATER AND SANITARY SEWAGE SERVICES FOR FIRE
STATION NO. 13, CAPITAL PROJECT NO. B-60453A TO BE
CONSTRUCTED AT 990 NORTHEAST 79 STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
10-00132-Legislation-SUB. pdf
10-00132-Exhibit-S U B. pdf
10-00132 Summary Form.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0088
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Migoya: Just a point of clarification. I think on CA.2 we had talked about pulling it to be
heard with the amendment, so I think there's -- we need to do -- as when we pass all the CA
(Consent Agenda) items, we need to be able to pull that (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Carollo: It's actually going to be a substitution, I believe. It's going to be a
substitution.
Mr. Migoya: That's correct, yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: We'll get to it.
Mr. Migoya: Thank you.
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Vice Chair Carollo: We got it. You know what, Mr. Manager, let's do that now already. Let's
see if we can do the CA items, and then we'll have the Mayor bring up his item. So as far as the
CA item, we have CA.2. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So move.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Dunn. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Suarez. Before the vote on adopting items
included in the consent agenda is taken, is there anyone present who is an objector that wishes to
speak on any item in the consent agenda? Hearing none, the vote on the adoption of the consent
agenda will be taken. All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Excuse me. I'm sorry, Chair. If I'm not mistaken, we're
talking about CA.2 and that is going to be modified.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Since we voted on it, do we have to recon -- no?
Ms. Thompson: No. You just -- we just need to state for the record --
Vice Chair Carollo: With a substitute.
Ms. Thompson: -- that it is as modified
Vice Chair Carollo: As modified
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Madam City Clerk.
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9:00 A.M.
PH.1 10-00127
Department of
Community
Development
PUBLIC HEARINGS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING THE SALE OF A CERTAIN CITY OF MIAMI
("CITY") OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1436 NORTHWEST 61ST
STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, TO THE INDIVIDUAL, AS SPECIFIED IN EXHIBIT
"A," ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AND SALE
CONTRACT ("CONTRACT"), IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
AND TO EXECUTE SUCH OTHER DOCUMENTS AS MAY BE NECESSARY
TO CONSUMMATE SUCH TRANSACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT, WHICH TERMS MAY BE
AMENDED BY THE CITY MANAGER AS MAY BE NECESSARY IN ORDER
TO MEET THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY.
10-00127 Legislation.pdf
10-00127 Exhibit 1.pdf
10-00127 Exhibit 2.pdf
10-00127 Summary Form.pdf
10-00127 Public Notice.pdf
10-00127 Release of Contract.pdf
10-00127 Pre Legislation.pdf
10-00127 Exhibit A 1.pdf
10-00127 Amendment.pdf
10-00127 Pre Contract.pdf
10-00127 Pre Legislation 2.pdf
10-00127 Exhibit A.pdf
10-00127 Email.pdf
10-00127 Amended Contract.pdf
10-00127 Pre Contract 2.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0085
Vice Chair Carollo: And we're going to be on PH.1.
George Mensah: Good morning, Mr. Chair. George Mensah, director of Community
Development. PH.1 is a resolution approving the sale of a certain City property located at 1436
Northwest 61 st Street, in Miami, and this is to the individual that is stated in the resolution.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: I have a motion by Commissioner --
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Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- Gort. Is there a second?
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any discussion? No discussion?
Mr. Mensah: Commissioner, public hearing, Mr. Chair.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Yeah. You have --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Mensah.
Ms. Thompson: Public hearing.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Anyone from the public wishes to speak on this item? No one
from the public wishes to speak on this item? Public hearing is closed. Mr. Mensah, you had --
Mr. Mensah: Yes, Mr. --
Vice Chair Carollo: -- something else to say?
Mr. Mensah: No.
Vice Chair Carollo: No? You know I have asked what's the original cost of these homes.
Mr. Mensah: Yes. Yes, you did. Unfortunately, we had requested the Liberty City Trust provide
us that information. Unfortunately, I think they were told by the City Clerk's office that they
couldn't retrieve any item from storage, so for that reason we're not able to get the cost. But I
have an appraisal here. The appraisal was done on the property six months ago and according
to the appraiser, the cost of construction is about $141, 000 and the appraised value of the
property is $140, 000.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. Any other discussion? Any questions? All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition has the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
PH.2 10-00128 RESOLUTION
Department of A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
Community ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
Development AMENDMENT TWO TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2005 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DRI CONTRACT BETWEEN MIAMI- DADE
COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT FROM DECEMBER 31, 2009 TO JUNE
30, 2010, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,000,000,
FOR THE REHABILITATION OF MULTI -FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT
SUFFERED HURRICANE DAMAGE UNDER THE MILITARY
CONSTRUCTION APPROPRIATIONS AND EMERGENCY HURRICANE
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, A/K/A DISASTER RECOVERY
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PROGRAM, FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
10-00128 Legislation. pdf
10-00128 Exhbit .pdf
10-00128 Exhbit 2.pdf
10-00128 Exhbit 3.pdf
10-00128 Summary Form.pdf
10-00128 Public Notice.pdf
10-00128 Letter. pdf
10-00128 Pre Legislation.pdf
10-00128 Master Report.pdf
10-00128 Pre Legislation 2.pdf
10-00128 Master Report 2.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0086
Vice Chair Carollo: PH.2.
George Mensah (Director, Community Development): Mr. Chair, PH.2 is a resolution that
authorizes the City Manager to extend -- to execute an amendment to the Community
Development Block Grant Disaster Relief Grant between Miami -Dade County and the City of
Miami for additional six months, from December 31, 2009 to June 30, 2010.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Mensah. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So moved, Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion by Commissioner Dunn. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion on the item? I will open
up the public hearing. Name and address for the record.
Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 Northwest 26 Street. You know, I am reading here between
the lines but when I see Miami -Dade County here and all that, I always worry about
Miami -Dade County 'cause, you know, they always want something from us but they never give
us nothing. And this is something that's going on from 2005 and now we give an extension.
What happened? How much money we get before and (UNINTELLIGIBLE)? It means that
that's not being advertising to the people that came, they could qualf for -- to repair homes if
they were not repaired by insurance or by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) or
anything. They have to get the people know out there what they are entitled to because these are
federal taxes here. Like I say, I don't pay City tax or County tax or whatever, but I pay a lot of
money in federal taxes. And this is my money. According to Washington, they take
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) in Washington and they send something back to us. So I want to know how
come we need an extension? Two million dollars left. How much money was allocated
originally for DRI (Development of Regional Impact) ? I want to know.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mensah, I think Mr. Cruz is asking why it's taking so long?
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Mr. Mensah: Mr. Chair, this is a program -- even though it says it's -- the name is 2005 because
that's when the hurricane occurred, so this is funds for the 2005 hurricane. The actual contract
was not signed until some time in 2008. The requirement is that -- and these are for multifamily
buildings -- these owners have to prove that the hurricane, first of all, affected their buildings;
and two, they have to prove that they did not get any other insurance. As you know, it's over
almost four or five years now since the hurricane occurred and most apartment owners are
unable to provide those proofs. We've advertised this program for a long time. Those that were
able to prove are those that are on the list that is there and (UNINTELLIGIBLE) allocated. All
we are doing is just extending it so that they can complete the work involved.
Mr. Cruz: One thing I'd like to say. Sometimes they got all these federal guidelines. You got to
know one, two, three, four, five, (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F), the green paper with the blue paper and
the red paper. Let the people know some time -- what about all this stimulus, all that money?
Sometimes the people don't qualify for the money. They can't qualifi, for the money because they
don't know about this. Even jobs. If you have a criminal record, a little thing, maybe you used a
credit card 20 years ago, you don't qualify for jobs under federal guidelines. You know, how
come? What happened to correction and rehabilitation? Are people supposed to be paying all
their life? It's a lot of jobs -- like I said, many people, they don't want a $7.50 an hour job when
they make $200, 000 in the corner selling dope. Thankyou.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou, Mr. Cruz.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I did ask the questions when they came up to me to talk about this item, and
I think that Mr. Cruz has got a point there. A lot of times -- andl asked how do these people
qualify to receive this funding, and there was a procedure that took place, but a lot of people
were not aware of that procedure and did not take part. I think we have to be very informative
whenever a program like this comes out to make sure that our NET (Neighborhood Enhancement
Team) office gives the information out to our people. And sometimes we might have to help
individuals fill out the applications because they are complicated. I mean, the federal
government, I think they do it on purpose.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you for your -- Commissioner Gort. Yes, sir. Name and address --
Roy Hardemon: Good morning. Roy Hardemon, 655 North [sic] 48th Street. Andl do agree
with Mr. Gort and Mr. Cruz, and the fact is that these projects are multi family hurricane
problems in District 5 and on this particular process, I sort of want to commend this young man
for keeping it alive. For once, the City ofMiami will do something for District 5 andl
appreciate it, andl would appreciate that we continue to do some things between the County --
and like Mr. Cruz say, the County got to step up more into these districts. And l thank you,
gentlemen.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou. Anyone else from the public wishes to speak on this item?
Anyone else from the public wishing to speak on this item? Hearing none, seeing none, the
public hearing closed; back to the Commission. Discussion? No? Madam City Clerk, we have
a --
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): A motion and a second. Yes, you do, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: No further discussion? All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
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PH.3 10-00129
Department of
Community
Development
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition has the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF PREVIOUS YEARS'
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CLOSE OUT FUNDS, AS
SPECIFIED IN EXHIBIT "A", ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, IN THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1,000,000; ALLOCATING SAID FUNDS TO THE CITY
OF MIAMI CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM OFFICE FOR THE
RECONSTRUCTION OF THE LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY
DOCUMENTS FOR SAID PURPOSE.
10-00129 Legislation.pdf
10-00129 Exhbit.pdf
10-00129 Summary Form.pdf
10-00129 Public Notice.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0087
Vice Chair Carollo: PH.3.
Lillian Blondet (Assistant Director): Good morning. Lillian Blondet, Department of Community
Development. PH.3 is a resolution recommending the transfer of CDBG (Community
Development Block Grant) funds, closeout funds from -- let me go for the record with the
activities that we're transferring from and the amounts -- Rockwood Properties, $225, 072; Lot
Clearing/Demolition, 65,464; Commercial Facade, $470, 323.73; Section 108 Debt Service,
$239,140.27. And that's for a total of a million dollars. Those are unused fundsfrom activities
from previous years, and we're recommending the transfer of the million dollars to the CIP
(Capital Improvement Projects) Department for the reconstruction of the Little Havana
Community Center.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Ms. Blondet. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: So move.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any
discussion? Public hear -- Anyone from the public wishes to speak on this item? The public
hearing is now closed; back to the Commission. No further discussion? I'd like to say that,
Commissioners, first of all, it's a million dollars and usually, you know, if Commissioner Sarnoff
-- or Chairman Sarnoff would have been here, he would have said, Commissioner, once -- he
always has these phrases or a way of saying it. He would say if you want something passed and
you're going to get it passed just don't keep talking about it. But you know, I'm not always the
best -- you know that I rock the boat every once in a while. So with that said, I do like to say
that, you know, this amount, it may not be the whole $1 million. It may be up to, so actually, we
might be able to do what we want to do with a lot less. And at the same time, what we're doing
here is a building that used to be a NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team) office was closed
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down for over three years due to a fire. And then the City obtained leased property, so we're
paying now a lease for the NET office and, you know, it's just unheard of. And this is something
that as soon as I came here to the City I wanted to do. I wanted to fix up that building and make
it a NET office, make it into a community center and stop paying lease -- stop paying a lease. So
you know, I thank all of you. And with that said, all in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
Ms. Blondet: Thank you.
END OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
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ORDINANCE -FIRST READING
FR.1 10-00191 ORDINANCE First Reading
Office of the City AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
Attorney 42/ARTICLE V OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, ENTITLED "POLICE/VEHICLE IMPOUNDMENT" BY CHANGING
THE AMOUNT OF THE CIVIL PENALTY FROM $1000 TO $500; MORE
PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTIONS 42-121 AND 41-122;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00191 Legislation FR/SR.pdf
10-00191 Cover Memo FR/SR.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
Direction by Vice Chair Carollo to the Administration to place the second reading of Item FR.1
on the City Commission agenda currently scheduled for March 11, 2010.
Vice Chair Carollo: (INAUDIBLE) meeting. I think we have two more items in the regular
meeting, so how about hearing -- going in order -- the order of the day and taking first reading
number 1, FR.1.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Mr. Chair, FR.1 is an ordinance that will amend an existing
ordinance which provides for a program. It's called the Vehicle Impoundment Program that the
City has. It has not been enforcing the provisions of this program because of a lawsuit that was
filed, but we have, since the lawsuit, corrected all the deficiencies in the ordinance. We're ready
to go again. It is up to the Police Department to actually implement it, but there was one more
recommendation coming out of my office, and that was to reduce the penalties from 1,000 to
$500.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. There is a motion by Commissioner Gort. Is there a second?
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any discussion? I'm going to open up a
public hearing. Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item? Anyone from the public
wishing to speak on this item? Hearing none, the public meeting [sic] is closed; back to the
Commission. Any further discussion or any discussion? This is an ordinance. Madam City
Attorney, please read the ordinance for the record.
Ms. Bru: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
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Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 3-0.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Madam City Clerk, I have a question.
Ms. Thompson: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry. Madam City Attorney. I'm sorry.
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: When do you expect the VIP (Vehicle Impoundment Program) program to
be reinstated?
Ms. Bru: Legally, we have to wait now for this -- well, we would recommend that you wait until
this ordinance comes back to you for second reading so that we have the fines adjusted per our
recommendation. As far as the police having the, you know, infrastructure in place, there would
need to be a special master proceeding that has to be established. I know that the police legal
advisor is working with the Police Department, with the chief in getting this program off the
ground again.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou, Madam --
Ms. Bru: I can't give you a date, though.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- City Attorney. Madam City Clerk, in order for this -- for the second
reading to come up in our next meeting, wouldl need a motion to direct you all to bring it up for
second reading in the next meeting or how --?
Ms. Thompson: Actually, we would have -- I'd have you address that with the City Attorney's
Office.
Vice Chair Carollo: Madam City Attorney.
Ms. Bru: You could direct that it be brought back to you at --
Commissioner Gort: Next meeting.
Ms. Bru: Well, we don't have time to bring it back, I think, on March 11. Well, you know, we're
going to print next week. I think --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Bru: -- we do. Yes, yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Bru: All right. So we will bring it back to you on March 11.
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you want me to do it via a motion?
Ms. Bru: No, no. You just direct us to do that. We'll place it on the agenda March 11.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. Thankyou --
Ms. Bru: Thank you.
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Vice Chair Carollo: -- Madam City Attorney. Thank you, Commissioner Gort.
END OF FIRST READING ORDINANCE
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RE.1 10-00130
Department of
Capital
Improvements
Program
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE TO THE PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENT ("PSA") WITH RIZO CARRENO & PARTNERS,
INC., FOR THE PROVISION OF MISCELLANEOUS ARCHITECTURAL
SERVICES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000, THEREBY
INCREASING THE PSA FROM AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000 TO
A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,000,000;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO
THE PSA, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR SAID
PURPOSE; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE APPROPRIATE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
10-00130 Legislation. pdf
10-00130 Exhibit.pdf
10-00130 Summary Form.pdf
10-00130 PSA.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
R-10-0089
Vice Chair Carollo: I think the last item on the regular agenda is RE.1.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): That's correct.
Ola Aluko: Good afternoon. Ola Aluko, director of Capital Improvements, City ofMiami. The
resolution we bring before you, Commissioners, is a resolution to approve amendment number
one to the professional services agreement with Rizo Carrel & Partners for the provisions of
miscellaneous architectural services. This resolution will increase its current contract from
$500, 000 to a not to exceed $4 million contract.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Dunn: So moved. Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any
discussion? Mr. Aluka [sic], as you know, I'm not a big fan of when we move -- andl know you
don't want to call it a change order and so forth but, you know, you're asking for an additional
$500, 000, correct?
Mr. Aluko: In the capacity to this particular contract, yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: But the capacity really means that they can -- you have those funds
allocated to this company should they, you know -- should you give them the job or so forth. The
bottom line is they have up to $500, 000.
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Mr. Aluko: That is correct. And ifI may add, Commissioner, there are two other firms which we
have not used their capacity, so it will be as if we are shifting their capacity to this particular
firm capacity.
Vice Chair Carollo: What are those two firms?
Mr. Aluko: We have Jetson and Associates architectural firm and also -- Spillis -- I'm sorry.
Their new name is AECOM.
Vice Chair Carollo: When we spoke yesterday, you couldn't tell me when the Commission voted
to allow these firms to do the work. Do you have the date of when the prior Commission voted
for these firms to have the capacity?
Mr. Aluko: Actually, I did go back to research, Commissioner. The Commissioner [sic]
particularly did not vote for this one. It was on the expedite resolution. However, the contract
was executed on March 9, 2009.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay, but I'm not understanding. Did the --? 'Cause you're saying that
another company -- and you mentioned both of their names. I'm sorry, I didn't remember both of
their names, but you mentioned these -- both of these companies, the Commission actually
allocated the fundings [sic]. And that's why they're not going to use this, so we're going to bring
it to this next company.
Mr. Aluko: That is correct, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Carollo: But my question specifically is did the prior Commission vote to allocate
funds to these companies?
Mr. Aluko: Yes, Commissioner.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, they did?
Mr. Aluko: Yes, they did.
Vice Chair Carollo: For the amount of 500, 000?
Mr. Aluko: That is correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: My last question. The company that we're allocating the fundings [sic] to
should it be approved, how do we know that we're getting bang for our buck? How do we know
that they're going to be efficient with our monies and --?
Mr. Aluko: They have already proven -- they have done three -- over $300, 000 worth of work
for the City already. They have proven to be very effective, efficient, and more importantly,
proactive to the City's needs. They are a very reputable company in town. That's why they were
selected as part of our selection committee, and most importantly, they are put to the test when
their projects are actually in construction, which we have a few already. When we do -- when
we can keep our change orders below a 2 percent industry standard, then we've known that not
only has the project manager overseeing the construction [sic] done his job, but most
importantly, the company has done a very well design.
Vice Chair Carollo: Let me ask you something, do you know as -- I'm sorry, Mr. --
Commissioner Gort, do you want to speak on it?
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman, I'd like --
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Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Gort.
Commissioner Gort: -- to ask a question because I asked something very similar and they were
going to come back with the study of all the work that has been done by this company. Now let
me see ifI can understand this a little better. My understanding is the City ofMiami
Commission and the past Administration allocated "X" amount of funds to do "X" amount of
work, selected "X" amount of company in a rotation basis.
Mr. Aluko: That is correct.
Commissioner Gort: And then as this company performed the work, they can be
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) but never exceed the cap that was put. There's a cap.
Mr. Aluko: That is correct, not to exceed the cap.
Commissioner Gort: In other words, there's an allocation that was placed for all of those
performance. They might not have used it all, but they cannot go beyond that cap.
Mr. Aluko: They cannot go beyond that cap. That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: Just remember that's what happened in the last Commission meeting when
we allocated an additional $250, 000 to -- so that's why I'm constantly asking.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry. Mr. Manager.
Mr. Migoya: Just to clam the actual numbers. Those four agency -- those four firms were
$500, 000 each for a total of $2 million.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Aluka [sic], is that the figure?
Mr. Aluko: Yes. That is correct. Each firm received a cap of $500, 000 and the two firms I
mentioned earlier, we have not used their 500 -- their cap -- their allocations and we have no
intention of using it.
Vice Chair Carollo: And again, there was a prior City Commission that approved those caps for
those other two firms.
Mr. Aluko: Via the expedite resolution -- I mean -- I'm sorry, via the expedite ordinance, yes.
The prior City Commission did approve that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Via the expedite ordinance, which meant that the City Manager, at his
discretion, could allocate fundings [sic] to the various firms. Is that correct or no?
Mr. Aluko: Yes. The expedite ordinance gave authority to the City Manager to award contracts
on an expedite basis. And as long as the City Manager, one, reports back to Commission to
advise the Commission that these were the contracts that he has awarded and, two, that
whenever we do do solicitations and -- well, in this case, it's a professional service, but if it was
in a construction solicitation, that we had at least a minimum of three bidders for a particular
project. In this case, it's professional services, but nevertheless, though, the Commission was
aware of the award of these contracts back in 2009.
Vice Chair Carollo: So, in essence, they didn't vote for the contract. What they voted for the
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expedition allowing the City Manager to --
Mr. Aluko: That is --
Vice Chair Carollo: -- at his discretion, do the fundings [sic] and then the only thing the
Manager has to do is bring it --
Mr. Aluko: Report --
Vice Chair Carollo: -- back to the Commission just to inform.
Mr. Aluko: That is correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Migoya: So in holistic terms, the expectation of work was not going to be more than $2
million, 4 or $500, 000 apiece. Two of these firms were never used, one for (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
and one for pricing. Now we're down to two. This one, as I understand it, has done a really
good job and the Administration would like to use them beyond the 500, 000. So in a sense, what
we're doing is we're going from two million dollars down to a maximum of a million five. And as
a matter of fact, the other firm is right around 300. Ola, is that correct?
Mr. Aluko: That is correct, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Migoya: So we may not even use the whole million five, but the bottom line is this whole
commitment, which is your concern, instead of being increased incremental is actually going
from two million down to a million five by this --
Vice Chair Carollo: One more question. Do you know if this company has a multiplier with the
County or with the State?
Mr. Aluko: Yes. All of our firms have multipliers, Mr. -- I'm sorry, Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you know what the multiplier is with the County and with the State?
Mr. Aluko: The multiplier is a 2.9 multiplier, which is standard with all of our firms.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, but that's with the City ofMiami.
Mr. Aluko: Oh, I'm sorry. You're asking if they have one with the State or --?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. 'Cause it clearly says here should the consultant have an approved
multiplier with the State of Florida or Miami -Dade County, the City may elect to utilize these
multipliers should they be less than the above stipulated. So in other words, if they have a
multiplier less than 2.9 with the County and with the State, we may elect, which I think we
should, with the lower amount multiplier.
Mr. Aluko: That is correct. Again, I can attest to that. I personally do not do the contracts. I
do have staff that does that. However, during our selection process, once a firm is brought on
board, we ask them for the multipliers that they're using with other agencies. If we do find out
that a multiplier that they use with another agency is lower than the average that we're using, we
will use the lower multiplier.
Vice Chair Carollo: I understand that. I'm just asking has anyone checked, and if someone's
checked, who has?
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RE.2 10-00163
District 5 -
Commissioner
Richard Dunn II
RE.3 10-00166
District 1 -
Commissioner
Wifredo (Willy)
Gort
Mr. Aluko: My staff would have done that as far as their due diligence. A contract would not be
awarded without that check and balance. I can attest to that that they've checked.
Vice Chair Carollo: So you can attest so -- I mean, I haven't checked, but ifI check now and
they have a multiplier smaller than 2.9, then I'll be coming back to you and saying you gave me
your word.
Mr. Aluko: You can come back. I have every confidence in my staff to do that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. That's all whatl wanted to hear.
Mr. Aluko: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: With that said, any further discussion? All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes.
Mr. Aluko: Thank you.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION DECLARING AN
EXEMPTION FROM THE PROHIBITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED
IN SECTIONS 36-4(A) AND 36-5 (A) OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, AS RELATED TO THE LEVEL AND HOURS OF
NOISE RESULTING FROM EL CARNAVAL DE BARRANQUILLA, ON FRIDAY,
FEBRUARY 19, 2010, FROM 9:00 P.M. THROUGH 3:00 A.M., AT 140
NORTHEAST 39TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
10-00163 Legislation. pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
WITHDRAWN PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), PURSUANT TO SECTION 18-82(A), OF THE CODE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, CLASSIFYING TWELVE (12),
2003 FORD CROWN VICTORIA POLICE INTERCEPTORS, AS DESCRIBED
IN "ATTACHMENT A", ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED, AS CATEGORY
"A" SURPLUS STOCK; SELLING SAID VEHICLES TO THE CITY OF
SWEETWATER, IN THE AMOUNT OF $500 EACH, UPON THE EXECUTION
OF THE APPROPRIATE RELEASE DOCUMENTS.
10-00166 Legislation. pdf
10-00166-Attachment A -SUB.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
ADOPTED WITH MODIFICATIONS PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0084
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, again, give me a second. I think Commissioner Gort wants to
move up a motion, andl think it's due to personnel that needs to go back to work. So
Commissioner Gort, you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: I'm looking for the -- it's the Sweetwater.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): That would be RE.3.
Commissioner Gort: RE.3. Resolution, RE.3.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is someone coming to address RE.3?
Larry Spring: Mr. Chair, Larry Spring, chief financial officer. RE.3 is a resolution of the City of
Miami Commission pursuant to Section 18-8 -- -82(A) of the Code of the City ofMiami, as
amended, classing twelve 2003 Ford Crown Victoria police Intercepters, as described in
"Attachment A, " as surplus; selling said vehicles to the City of Sweetwater in the amount of $500
each, upon the execution of the appropriate release documents.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Gort, you're recognized.
Commissioner Gort: The reason I brought this forward, my understanding is that this is
something that I inherit. My understanding is the Commissioners had voted on this June of last
year, and for some reason it was not taken -- because of some of the things that happened, it was
not brought to the Commission for the reading and that's why I'm brining it up today. Am I
correct? I mean, this was something that was brought up in June some time last year.
Mr. Spring: That's --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Spring.
Mr. Spring: Mr. Chair, I'm sorry again.
Commissioner Gort: We have the chief of police here if you want him to --
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry? Yeah.
Mr. Spring: The chief of police of Sweetwater.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right, but -- yeah, but I would like to -- I would have liked to have heard
something -from our Administration --
Commissioner Gort: Sure.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- first say that, 'yeah, it was brought up."
Mr. Spring: This is an item, again, that was brought up to the prior City Manager, through the
prior -- I think through the prior district Commissioner's office. I guess -- and I personally did
not work on the item, but through the course of actions, the budget and the summary was not
brought to City Commission so --
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Vice Chair Carollo: Right. 'Cause obviously, my question is, on something like this, why wasn't
it brought back then? Why are we waiting, you know, this long and --
Mr. Spring: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- not to mention that I've received the e-mails (electronic) and, I mean,
$500 per car. You understand.
Mr. Spring: I do, sir. And --
Vice Chair Carollo: It seems that we're -- I don't want to say that the City of Miami's already
starting a fire sale because I definitely would oppose any fire sales by the City ofMiami. But it
does appear that those cars are, you know, in a fire sale, $500 per car. And actually went out
there to see them. One of them only has 58,000 miles. So I'm just, you know, questioning.
Mr. Spring: Mr. -- may I?
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Spring.
Mr. Spring: Through the Chair -- I'll say through the Chair. Mr. Chairman, we can -- I would
say we generally agree with you that we do not -- we're not trying to establish an issue of a fire
sale. Typically with the auction of all of our fleet cars as they come off line, we go through a --
an auction process. We have an auction that is upcoming in, I think -- believe in the month of
March. I think with regards to these cars, this was a -- more of a collaboration between two
governments, you know, set out by the two -- you know, the district Commissioner working with
the City of Sweetwater in an attempt to help, you know, a city partner. I think at this time all
around -- everybody's having some difficult financial issues, including ourselves. And this is our
attempt to, you know, do something, I guess -- our contribution to our political and our
municipal partners in the County, not to establish a fire sale. So --
Mr. Migoya: Mr. Chairman, just as I understand it, the original -- what they wanted originally
was for us to just surplus the cars and give it to them for free. So this is why it took a while to
get it -- I mean, as meaningless as $500 is, it would have been --
Vice Chair Carollo: No.
Mr. Migoya: -- what they wanted was less than that.
Vice Chair Carollo: No, I understand, Mr. Manager. But if we're really discussing it with $500,
what do you think would have happened when it would have been for free?
Mr. Migoya: I'm in agreement.
Vice Chair Carollo: So it could have been that originally it was for free, but you get my drift.
With that said, I think the chief of police from Sweetwater is here. Do you want to address the
Commission?
Commissioner Gort: If you want to have any additional questions, we have somewhere here
from the City also.
Vice Chair Carollo: If you could just be -- you know, go through the Chair and just ask to be
recognized, Commissioner Gort. I'll let you speak as much as you want, but -- chief? And by the
way, I'll open up to a public hearing then. So I'm just going to open it up to a public hearing.
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Roberto Fulgueira: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners --
Vice Chair Carollo: Welcome, by the way.
Mr. Fulgueira: Thankyou, sir. Thankyou. I'm just here -- as Commissioner Gort said, this has
been going on for close to a year, I would say, and --
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair. I apologize. I need a name for the record.
Mr. Fulgueira: I'm sorry.
Commissioner Gort: Name and address.
Mr. Fulgueira: Roberto Fulgueira, City of Sweetwater Police Department, chief of police.
Vice Chair Carollo: And an address? Maybe the police head --
Mr. Fulgueira: 500 Southwest 109 Avenue, Sweetwater, Florida.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou, chief and please continue.
Mr. Fulgueira: As I was saying, this has been going on, back and forth, approximately a year.
What the City Manager is saying is correct. We asked -- as surplus vehicles, as it has been done
in the past, if we can -- we really had a bad issue. We purchased brand-new Intrepids -- or a
whole fleet of them. And, wow, was that a mistake. I mean, these cars, a year later, they were
done with. So we really got in a bind. And we came to the Commissioner and asked him at the
time, which is our present Mayor -- and we came to him and asked him reference the surplus. I
sat with the City Manager. I sat with the director of Fleet at that time. And we came to an
agreement that they couldn't give it to us, but they can sell it to us at -- if we would take them the
way they were; they didn't have to strip them. And since it's a police department, we'd have to
strip 'em and put our own name on it, and our colors and everything else, that they wouldn't
have to take the cages out of them or -- because the new cars that come in, actually those cages
don't fit them. So that -- there was a savings to the City in that aspect. Therefore, we came down
to agree that $500 a car. And a lot of those cars do have over 100,000 miles, Commissioner. I
believe there's only one that has 50-some plus.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. I actually -- I went to see all of them. And you know, one -- there's
only one that has 58,000.
Mr. Fulgueira: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: But there's -- not all of them are over a hundred. I think half of them are
under a hundred. Still high mileage.
Mr. Fulgueira: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: But still, I mean, possibly -- And again, chief I mean, I'm a former law
enforcement officer.
Mr. Fulgueira: I'm aware of that, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: And in all fairness, you know, I understand the brotherhood.
Mr. Fulgueira: Yes.
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Vice Chair Carollo: But at the same time, you know, I'm looking out for the City. And right
now, you know, we're in dire needs of help ourselves. So that's why, you know, we --I think, you
know, we're watching our dollars a little bit more, and watching, you know, what we sell or don't
sell, or keep. Because in all fairness, I think due to various union contracts, we can't use those
vehicles for police, but we may be able to bring it into other departments and use those vehicles.
So that's why I'm asking. I mean, you know, the e-mails (electronic) are there. Andl don't know.
I don't know what the will of this Commission is. At the same time, I mean, maybe if we, you
know, raise the price -- I don't know what's the market value of those vehicles, but maybe if we
could raise the price a little bit and -- you know, maybe we could come up with some
compromise. I don't want to be here negotiating, but you know, it's a suggestion.
Unidentified Speaker: Excuse me.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Marcos.
Glenn Marcos: Commissioner, Glenn Marcos, Purchasing director. I kind of feel compelled to
go on the record because I think you're alluding to some communications that was involved in.
Unfortunately, I was involved towards the latter half of the communications 'cause I was not
aware of the sale of these vehicles for $500. Whatl can tell you is that, yes, the previous City
Manager tried to bring up an item to donate the vehicles. At that particular point in time, it was
back in June, in which I went on the record. As one of the financial or fiscal stewards of the
City, I felt that donating the vehicles at that particular point in time was not -- would not be
fiscally prudent. Obviously, I made policy recommendation to the City Commission. The City
Commission has to decide whether you will want to accept it or not. At that particular point in
time, what I can say is that we were in the middle of preparing a budget, and pretty much
foresaw the numbers that were -- that we were dealing with. What I can tell you today is, is that
it's my understanding that there was an agreed, probably informally, amount of $500 to sell
those cars on a per -vehicle basis. It was my position, and it's still my position as your chief
procurement officer, who's trying to bring in the most revenue to the City and save the City some
dollars, that it is my policy recommendation that if the City of Sweetwater wants those vehicles,
that they can participate in our auction, and they can compete for those vehicles. However, that
is my policy recommendation. I also would want to state for the record that if the City of
Sweetwater is going to take those vehicles -- andl still don't think it's fair market value -- or at
the very least, I think it's fair to say that let fair market be -- fair market value be established
through a public auction. But if it's not going to be that, it's my recommendation that at the very
least we end up having an agreement with the City of Sweetwater that if they're going to take
those vehicles for $500, that they're not to sell those vehicles for a certain period of time because
then they can make off money, almost six months later, by selling those vehicles. Once we let it
go, we let it go. And so, again, those are my recommendations. My recommendations is, is that
I believe that the City of Sweetwater should participate in public auction and compete for it. But
this is my recommendation to you. The Commission would have to decide what policy it wants to
set forth. Thank you so much.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair, thank you. In your estimation, sir, what would you consider to
be fair market value, roughly, give or take?
Mr. Marcos: Commissioner Dunn, a very good question. Based upon previous auctions,
depending on the condition of the vehicle, you have seen those vehicles go twice as much or
three times as much than the $500 that's been established, meaning anywhere between 1,000 to
$1, 500. And that includes the fact of the Department of GSA (General Services Administration)
strips the equipment before it's auctioned off.
Commissioner Dunn: So even at bare minimum -- with the bare necessities or amenities of a
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car, basic, it would be roughly between 1,000 and $1, 500?
Mr. Marcos: Yes. So what you're looking at is if you take in account 12 vehicles, multiply that
by the $500 set price, you're looking at $6, 000 versus anywhere between 12,000 to $14, 500.
Mr. Migoya: Yeah, but -- are we talking -- there's also a --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Manager --
Commissioner Gort: Through the Chair.
Mr. Migoya: Sorry. I need to be --
Vice Chair Carollo: I know it's your first day.
Mr. Migoya: I apologize. Sony. Sorry, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: If you could just address the Chair before speaking.
Mr. Migoya: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: And you have the floor.
Mr. Migoya: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Isn't there also -- there is at least an auction
cost?
Mr. Marcos: There is, but --
Mr. Migoya: And there's a cost of removal of the equipment, as well, right?
Mr. Marcos: There -- that's a question that I think that GSA would have to go on the record.
But what I can say is, is that the cost -- there is an auctioneer's cost, but we don't necessarily pay
that. The consumer who's buying --
Mr. Migoya: Yeah, but the net of the price.
Mr. Marcos: It's --
Mr. Migoya: When you say 1,000 or 1,500, you net the price on the auction.
Mr. Marcos: That person who's buying the vehicle --
Mr. Migoya: Not over and above the price. It's part of the sales price. Trust me, I know. That's
part of my business. And so when you say you buy a car for $1,000, the auction price nets the
deduction from that price. It's not in addition to.
Mr. Marcos: I think our contract -- Mr. City Manager, I would have to double-check that. But
would want to say that they pay --
Mr. Migoya: Please double-check it 'cause it's usually netted out on that cost. And then in
addition to that, you got the additional cost. The -- just -- Mr. Chairman, the Administration --
and again, this is prior to my time. I'm just going through -- the support from the Administration
comes from the fact that there is a cost of removing the equipment, and there's also an auction
cost. And we may be 100 or $200 off when you net out all those costs, and the price that we had
was somewhere around 1,000, and you might be able to give a better opinion on that, so I'd like
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you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) but it was between 1,000 and $1, 200, but when you net out all the
different costs, you probably were closer to the 5 to $700 level. But please, if you don't mind
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Kelly Barket (Director, General Services Administration): Yes. Kelly Barket --
Vice Chair Carollo: Kelly --
Mr. Barket: -- director of GSA.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Can you please address the Chair first?
Mr. Migoya: Sorry.
Mr. Barket: Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Barket.
Mr. Barket: Kelly Barket, director of GSA. The City Manager is correct. The cars do go -- and
I concur with the Purchasing director -- do sell for about 1,000 to $1, 500. However, these cars
have not been stripped. They're currently in its original state as police pursuit vehicles. The
sale of $500 would be in conjunction with not stripping them down to be prepared, which would
be another 350 to $500, and that would also concur with an additional overtime cost with staff
being there to also assist in the auction sale. So it would break out about approximately what
the City Manager is saying.
Vice Chair Carollo: So what you're saying is that in order to strip those vehicles -- in other
words, because you're allocating a cost based on the stripping.
Mr. Barket: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's like now asking the City Clerk or someone from my -- from the
Administration if they could go get something or if they could do something. Now I start
allocating what they charge us per that time to do that work because, in all fairness, these are
City employees. Are you saying that all City employees are at maximum capacity, so they don't
have any free time to be working on some of those vehicles and actually removing the pieces?
Are you saying that all your employees are at maximum capacity?
Mr. Barket: No. What I'm saying, Commissioner, is we would take mechanics that are regularly
doing mechanic work to now prepare and prep the vehicles for the auction. Since they are
police pursuit vehicles, we would have to de -stripe them, take the sirens, the light bars off and
then prep them for auction purposes. So to do that -- we don't have staff that prepares that on a
daily basis. We would take regular mechanics who are doing their regular jobs to go ahead and
prep those vehicles for the auction. So the time would be allocated toward the prepping of the
vehicle.
Vice Chair Carollo: And those mechanics are at maximum capacity now?
Mr. Barket: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I've just been handed information, maybe you can collaborate this, that the
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vehicle that has 58,000 miles has got transmission problem. I don't know if --
Mr. Barket: Yes, sir. That is true. The one with 58,000 miles does have transmission issues with
it currently. And there are several over 100,000 miles, and they are police pursuit, so they're not
quality vehicles at this time, and they've been in service for over seven years.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, I'm not a mechanic to know if it's got transmission problems or not, to
be honest with you, but could tell you this. There's a reason why the City of Sweetwater wants
these vehicles. They have to have some type of good value 'cause if not, I don't think they would
spend time to come here and request those vehicles. Andl don't -- I don't know. Maybe 500's
not the amount. Maybe 750. And you know, that way, yeah, we're not getting 1,000 or 1,500,
but we're getting a little bit more. I don't know. It's whatever the will of this Commission wants,
you know. I'll take a motion, if there's one. And you know, at the same time, I open up a public
hearing. Is there anyone else from the public wishes to speak on this item? Hearing -- go
ahead. Name and address for the record. Luis.
Luis Herrera: My name is Luis Herrera and like a City --
Vice Chair Carollo: Address.
Mr. Herrera: And 1181 Southwest 22nd Terrace. And in this actions, I think the only advantage
that it have, if it be selling in the auction, and he coming over here in front to you to ask to buy
that cars, why they no leave the lights on? Why they don't leave the equipment they need and
they sell it in the price you set or maybe a little bit more? So that way they don't have to strip the
car and we get some more money for the City ofMiami. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure. To answer that, ifI may, from the Administration, in all fairness,
what they're saying is if we sell it in auction, then we have to strip it. If we give to them, we do
not have to strip it. And that's why I'm saying since we're not going to have to strip it, why not
then 750? And you know, we're not making the 1,000 or 1,500, but at the same time, we're
getting the 750. And again, I'm chairing the meeting, so I'm not making the motion. But you
know, it's whatever the will of this Commission wants. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair, in light of some of the research and revelations that have been
given this morning, I would support a motion basically stating that we get the maximum value.
And if that 500 or 750 or $1, 000 -- I don't know how we could proffer this motion -- but I would
like for us to -- you know, I would support it with the understanding that we get the maximum
value.
Commissioner Gort: Okay. Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. -- Chief --
Mr. Fulgueira: Sure.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- if, instead of $500, it would be 750 per vehicle, would you accept that?
Mr. Fulgueira: Sir, I'd like to say yes, but I would have to go back to my mayor and ask him if
that's the way it works. Those decisions are -- I cannot make. I'd like to, butl cannot make it. I
sure wouldn't like to --
Vice Chair Carollo: Defer?
Mr. Fulgueira: -- you know, go on any further. Those cars have been sitting there, and the
longer they're sitting there, the more money it's going to cost us to get 'em back in order. But
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you know, as I was -- ifI may, what I was saying before, we are going to -- we're not going to
sell those cars to anyone, for that matter. What we're trying to do is be able to -- with those cars,
I will have to spend over $2, 000 on each one of those cars just between mechanical work and
painting and putting them back in order. Like you're aware, some of those cars do have high
mileage and we're going to have to do some mechanical work to them. So the truth of the matter
is that we are going to get rid of our Intrepids and this is what we're going to replace our fleet
with -- Intrepids that are much newer, but at the same time, did not work out as police vehicles.
And of course, that was our mistake, but I mean, I think the Crown Victoria's the greatest police
car ever and this is where I'm standing right now. I wish I can say yes, Commissioner -- Mr.
Chairman, but can't. I do -- we desperately do need those vehicles and I just leave it up to you
guys.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. And by the way, I used to drive one of those Crown Vics Intercept
[sic].
Mr. Fulgueira: Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: And as I stated before, the reason I brought this issue is because it was an
issue thatl inherit in my office and that was talked about it. If it was someone from the private
sector, I would not be doing this. But this is a municipality -- is a neighbor of the City ofMiami.
My understanding, they collaborate quite a bit with the City ofMiami Police and they do a lot of
joint works. For that reason, I'm ready to make a motion to accept the present value as it is with
they cannot be sold for the next five years or six years.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Commissioner Gort. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: I second the motion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion?
Ms. Thompson: Chair, ifI may ask, are you going to close the public hearing?
Vice Chair Carollo: I actually did. What I did is I just asked the chief to come up again, but --
Ms. Thompson: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- I thought I actually had closed the public hearing.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: And just in case, I'll say that the public hearing is closed. But anyways,
with that said, all in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion passes unanimously. He (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- everybody said
aye. Motion passes unanimously.
Ms. Thompson: Okay, with the modification that was stated by --
Vice Chair Carollo: By Commissioner Gort.
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Ms. Thompson: -- Commissioner Gort. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Sweetwater.
Mr. Fulgueira: (INAUDIBLE).
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
Mr. Fulgueira: I'd like to thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Commissioner Gort,
Commissioner Suarez. Andl assure you those cars will not be sold. You're more than welcome
to come and see the cars that when you see them, they're going to be in great shape 'cause we
really do need it and we really appreciate what the City ofMiami's done for us.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, chief. And at the same time, you know, we're definitely here to
help out a neighboring municipality, but at the same time, just take into consideration the
situation that we're in and that's why we're being so fiscally responsible and --
Mr. Fulgueira: Andl --
Vice Chair Carollo: -- questioning everything.
Mr. Fulgueira: -- respect that. Thank you very much.
Vice Chair Carollo: And give my best to your mayor.
Mr. Fulgueira: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: With that said -- okay.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Definitely, Commissioner Gort.
RE.4 10-00190 RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE
WAIVER OF FEES, IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1,650, CONSISTING OF
THE AMOUNT OF $650, FOR THE BUILDING USE AND SET-UP FEE OF
THE MIAMI ROWING CLUB, ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2010, FOR
THE BLUE BLAZER BANQUET AND IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000, FOR THE
MARINE STADIUM BEACH AND PARKING LOT USE, ON SUNDAY, MARCH
7, 2010, FOR THE 37TH ANNUAL MIAMI INTERNATIONAL REGATTA, WITH
NO SALARY FEES BEING WAIVED FOR EITHER EVENT.
10-00190 Legislation. pdf
SPONSOR:CHAIRMAN SARNOFF
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
WITHDRAWN PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
END OF RESOLUTIONS
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PART B: PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
Vice Chair Carollo: Andl will now start the Planning and Zoning part of this meeting. I will
ask the City Attorney to please read the procedures.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Okay. These are the items now that appear on the agenda for
Planning and Zoning and these are the procedures. Before the agenda is heard, all those who
wish to speak will be sworn by the City Clerk. That'll happen shortly. The order of business will
be that the staff will briefly describe the request, whether it's an appeal, a special exception, a
vacation, a text amendment, a zoning change, a land -use change, or a MUSP (Major Use
Special Permit), and the staff will make to you its recommendation, and then either the appellant
or the petitioner will then present the request or the item. If there is an appellee, if applicable,
they will present their position. Then you will allow the members of the public to speak on
certain petitions. The petitioner may ask questions of the staff and you've already indicated that
you would like all questions to be done through the Chair. And the appellant and the petitioner
will be permitted to make a final comment.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Madam City Attorney. And Madam City Clerk, could you ask
with regards to an interpreter and then as far as swearing anyone who wishes to come before
this Commission and speak.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you for your attention. I
need to know if there is anyone in the audience that would need a Spanish language interpreter?
The City Clerk's comments were translated by Spanish interpreter Paul Seligmann.
Seeing no one, thank you, Commissioner. Now I would ask, if you are here and you will be
presenting testimony or speaking on any of the P&Z (Planning & Zoning) items, I would
appreciate it if you can please stand and raise your right hand so we can administer the oath.
Any P&Z items, if you are speaking, I need you to stand, raise your right hand.
The City Clerk administered oath required under City Code Section 62-1 to those persons giving
testimony on zoning issues.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Does anyone have any items they wish to defer, continue, or withdraw?
Bill Anido (Assistant City Manager & Interim Public Works Director): Mr. Chairman, we would
like to continue 4 and 5, 8 and 10.
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.4 and 5.
Mr. Anido: 5.
Vice Chair Carollo: I saw the applicant here, or I saw someone here for PZ.4 and 5, and the
district Commissioner is not here. I'm going to hold that until the district Commissioner comes
back. Yeah. That's why I'm -- that's why I don't want to withdraw or defer.
(COMMENTS MADE OFF THE RECORD.)
Mr. Anido: So you want to hear it today?
Vice Chair Carollo: There's no violation of Sunshine there, but the bottom line is --
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Mayor Regalado: On the record, my understanding, Mr. Chairman, is that the area
Commissioner told the residents that around 3: 30 -- starting at 3: 30, that you will be hearing
that item.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, that's why I was surprised when the Administration wanted to defer it
and that's why I'm questioning it, 'cause it appears that the district Commissioner was going to
be back, andl don't want to defer an item without him being here present, so --
Mr. Anido: Mr. Chairman, that's perfectly okay; we can hear it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. As a matter offact, I guess -- how should address you? I don't
know how I address you.
Mr. Anido: Bill Anido is fine.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. Obviously, I know your name, but -- okay, Mr. Anido. With that said,
do you know -- once the district Commissioner comes back, you know, then, if he wants to defer
or so forth, I will wait for -- you know, I will yield to him as far as what he would want to do and
so forth, you know, and then we could take a vote, but --
Mr. Anido: That's perfectly acceptable to the Administration. No problem.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. And what I'll do is I'll keep moving PZ.4 and PZ.5 until it's almost
the last item. Any other item, Mr. Anido?
Mr. Anido: 8 and 10.
Vice Chair Carollo: 8 -- PZ.8, and that's -- I'm sorry -- a deferral, continuance?
Mr. Anido: Continuance.
Vice Chair Carollo: A continuance. For both?
Mr. Anido: For both, yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: 8 and 10, you said?
Mr. Anido: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Give me a second to see -- Mr. Anido?
Mr. Anido: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is PZ.9 going to be continued also?
Mr. Anido: No, not as far as I know. Is the applicant here?
Vice Chair Carollo: I have --
Mr. Anido: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It is to be continued. Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: So PZ.9 is also going to be continued?
Mr. Anido: Yes.
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Vice Chair Carollo: So as of right now, we have PZ.8, PZ.9, and PZ.10 to be continued. Any --
Commissioner Gort, any others? No? Okay, so PZ.8, PZ.9, and PZ.10. Do I hear a motion for
continuance?
Commissioner Dunn: So moved.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion by Commissioner Dunn, second by Commissioner Gort. Any
discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: All -- anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
PZ.1 08-01084zc ORDINANCE Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING PAGE NO. 34, OF THE ZONING ATLAS OF
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"R-1" SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND "R-2" TWO-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL TO "R-1" SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND "R-2"
TWO-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH AN "SD-12" BUFFER OVERLAY
DISTRICT, FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2508,
2524, 2534, 2538, 2590, 2600, 2610 AND 2620 SOUTHWEST 5TH STREET
AND THREE UNASSIGNED ADDRESSES, HAVING FOLIO NUMBERS
01-4103-037-0280, 01-4103-037-0430 AND 01-4103-037-0431, MIAMI,
FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-01084zc CC Analysis - NEW.pdf
08-01084zc Zoning Map - NEW.pdf
08-01084zc Aerial Map - NEW.pdf
08-01084zc Letter of Intent - Revised.pdf
08-01084zc Letter of Intent - Original Request.pdf
08-01084zc Application & Supporting Docs - NEW.pdf
08-01084zc Surveys.pdf
08-01084zc ZB 04-13-09 Resos.pdf
08-01084zc ZB 09-21-09 Resos.pdf
08-01084zc CC Legislation (Version 5).pdf
08-01084zc Exhibit A - NEW.pdf
08-01084zc CC SR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 2508, 2524, 2534, 2538, 2590, 2600, 2610 and
2620 SW 5th Street and Three Unassigned Addresses, Having Folio Numbers
01-4103-037-0280, 01-4103-037-0430 and 01-4103-037-0431 [Commissioner
Frank Carollo - District 3]
APPLICANT(S): Gilberto Pastoriza, Esquire, and Estrellita Sibila, Esquire, on
behalf of The District Board of Trustees of Miami -Dade Community College,
Florida
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FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
ZONING BOARD: Recommended approval, which failed, constituting a
recommendation of denial, to City Commission on September 21, 2009 by a
vote of 3-5 of the second request to change "Parcel A" (Approximately 2508,
2524, 2534, 2538, 2590, 2600, 2610 and 2620 SW 5th Street and One
Unassigned Address, Having Folio Number 01-4103-037-0280) to "R-1"
Single -Family Residential with an "SD-12" Buffer Overlay District; and "Parcel
B" (Two Unassigned Addresses, Having Folio Numbers 01-4103-037-0430 and
01-4103-037-0431) to "G/I" Government and Institutional. The board also
recommended to the City Commission that the board will not object to an
"SD-12" Overlay for all parcels included on the application, to achieve the
parking needs of Miami -Dade College, by a vote of 5-3.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "R-1" Single -Family
Residential and "R-2" Two -Family Residential with an "SD-12" Buffer Overlay
District.
NOTE(S): The Zoning Board recommended denial to City Commission on April
13, 2009 by a vote of 3-2 of the original request to "Gil" Government and
Institutional for all of the properties. They also recommended to the City
Commission that the board will not object to an "SD-12" Overlay to achieve the
parking needs of the Miami -Dade College, by a vote of 4-1. On January 28,
2010, the companion Land Use item (File ID 08-010841u) was withdrawn.
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
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Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.1.
Roberto E. Lavernia (Chief of Land Development): Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, for the
records [sic], Roberto Lavernia, with the Planning Department. PZ. 1 is second reading of the
zoning change request for the Miami Dade Community College, and this is what the Commission
approved on first reading for SD-12 for the whole property. And you will see the item again
once they have the SD-12 for special exception.
Gilberto Pastoriza: Mr. Chairman, Gilberto Pastoriza, 2525 Ponce de Leon. And like Mr.
Lavernia said, I think that you guys heard it the first time. The College is willing to go ahead
and do everything, surface parking to SD-12. I would ask that you please approve this on
second reading.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. Do I have a motion?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Commissioner Gort: I'm glad the College decided to comply.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Anyone
from the public wishing to speak on this item? Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this
item? Hearing none, seeing none; back to the Commission. Any further discussion?
Commissioner Gort: Well, Mr. Chairman, that shows when you work together -- the neighbors
are not here to agree with it, so it works out.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, exactly. And if you remember correctly, the neighbors were here the
last time --
Commissioner Gort: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- in front of us, and they all, you know, said that --
Unidentified Speaker: We're here.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- Well, they're there. They're just quiet.
Commissioner Gort: Oh, they're here. Okay. They want to make sure we're doing --
Vice Chair Carollo: They just want to make sure.
Mr. Pastoriza: They're keeping a watchful eye.
Commissioner Gort: Yeah, andl don't blame them.
Vice Chair Carollo: Actually, I thought I saw you earlier. You all were sitting over there,
correct? Yeah. I thought I saw you. Anyhow, with that said, it's an ordinance. Madam City
Attorney, please read the ordinance for the record, followed by a roll call.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading, 3-0.
Mr. Pastoriza: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
PZ.2 09-00974ct ORDINANCE Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, AMENDING THE
FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED,
THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, BY AMENDING THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE
REGARDING THE DESIGNATION OF THE HEALTH DISTRICT REGIONAL
ACTIVITY CENTER; FURTHER AMENDING THE 2020 FUTURE LAND USE
MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN BY
CREATING THE "HEALTH DISTRICT REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER
OVERLAY" WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI; MAKING FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH ESTABLISHED CRITERIA, GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
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POLICIES FOR SUCH DESIGNATIONS; PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTALS
TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09-00974ct PAB Reso.pdf
09-00974ct December 1, 2009 DCA Letter.pdf
09-00974ct December 11, 2009 DCA Letter.pdf
09-00974ct December 22, 2009 DCA Letter.pdf
09-00974ct CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
09-00974ct Exhibit A - NEW.pdf
09-00974ct CC SR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: "SD-10" Medical Health Care, Hospital and Research Park
Overlay District [Commissioner Wifredo (Willy) Gort - District 1 and
Commissioner Richard P. Dunn II - District 5]
APPLICANT(S): Pedro G. Hernandez, City Manager, on behalf of the City of
Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD: Recommended approval to City Commission
on September 16, 2009 by a vote of 7-0.
PURPOSE: This will create a Health District Regional Activity Center,
necessary to achieve the City's goals for continued development and
redevelopment of its principal health care, hospital and research area.
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
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Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.2.
Harold Ruck (Planner II): Good afternoon. Harold Ruck, with the Planning Department. PZ.2
is an ordinance on second reading amending the Future Land Use element of the Comprehensive
Neighborhood Plan by amending goals, objectives, and policies of the Future Land Use element,
to incorporate language regarding the designation of a Health District Regional Activity Center;
further amending the 2020 Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive Plan by creating the
Health District Regional Activity Center Overlay within the City ofMiami. This will support the
City's desire to promote this area, the Health District, for high -intensity, high -density, mixed -use
development and redevelopment. There will be no change with this overlay. It will not affect the
Future Land Use map or any designations, the zoning as well. This is only going to increase the
DRI (Development of Regionallmpact) threshold for reporting purposes and consistency
reviews. Do you have any questions?
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any
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discussion? Anyone -- I'm going to open up the public hearing --from the public wishing to
speak on this item? Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item? Hearing none, seeing
none; back to the Commission. Any discussion?
Commissioner Gort: I think it'll be a wonderful thing to happen for District 1 and for the City of
Miami.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. This is an ordinance. Madam City Attorney, please read the
ordinance into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
Vice Chair Carollo: Roll --
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading, 3-0.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
PZ.3 09-01372zt ORDINANCE Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 10, SECTION
10.6.3.7. SD-7 CENTRAL BRICKELL RAPID TRANSIT
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE SIGN
REGULATIONS FOR HOTEL USES IN THE SD-7 ZONING DISTRICT;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
09-01372zt PAB Reso.pdf
09-01372zt CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
09-01372zt CC SR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: "SD-7" Central Brickell Rapid Transit Commercial -Residential
District [Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff - District 2]
APPLICANT(S): Pedro G. Hernandez, City Manager, on behalf of the City of
Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD: Recommended approval to City Commission
on December 16, 2009 by a vote of 7-0.
PURPOSE: This will amend regulations for hotel signs in SD-7.
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
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Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.3.
Lourdes Slazyk (Zoning Administrator: Thankyou. For the record, Lourdes Slazyk. PZ.3 is an
amendment to Article 10 of the Zoning Code in order to approve an amendment to the sign code.
This is the second reading ordinance. It has been recommended for approval by the Planning
Advisory Board and adopted by this Commission first reading.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So moved.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Dunn, seconded by Commissioner Gort. Any
discussion? I'll open up the public hearing. Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this
item? Name and address for the record.
Vicky Garcia -Toledo: Vicky Garcia -Toledo, with offices at 200 South Biscayne Boulevard.
Commissioners, on behalf of Hospitality Operation, we are just in support of the
recommendation of the PAB (Planning Advisory Board), your staff and your approval.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Commissioner Gort: It's been moved, right? You moved it?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Commissioner Gort: Second. Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. It's already been moved. Any discussion? I'm closing the public
hearing, and it is an ordinance. Madam City Attorney, can you please read the ordinance into
the record, followed by a roll call.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been adopted on second reading, 3-0.
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.4 andPZ.5 we will skip until later, until hopefully Commissioner Suarez
returns. PZ. 6 and PZ.7 are also in District 4, so we're going to pass those.
Commissioner Gort: 8, 9, and 10.
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.8 andPZ.9 are continued.
Roberto E. Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning Department): And 10.
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Ms. Thompson: And 10.
Commissioner Gort: And 10.
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.10, continued.
PZ.4 08-01085Iu1 ORDINANCE First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO §163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF REAL PROPERTY
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 711 SOUTHWEST 39TH AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, FROM "SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO "RESTRICTED
COMMERCIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING TRANSMITTALS TO
AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-010851u1 Analysis.pdf
08-010851u1 Land Use Map.pdf
08-010851u1 Aerial Map.pdf
08-010851u1 PAB Resos.pdf
08-010851u1 Miami -Dade County Public School Concurrency.pdf
08-010851u1 Application & Suporting Documents.pdf
08-010851u1 CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
08-010851u1 & 08-01085zc1 Exhibit A.pdf
08-010851u1 CC FR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
08-010851u1-Submittal-Iraida Mendez -Correspondence from residents against the zoning code ch;
LOCATION: Approximately 711 SW 39th Avenue [Commissioner Francis
Suarez - District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Gilberto Pastoriza, Esquire and Estrellita Sibila, Esquire, on
behalf of RMM Properties, Ltd.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial.
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD (PAB): Recommended denial of the Land Use
Change to City Commission on November 4, 2009 by a vote of 9-0. The PAB
also recommended to the Miami City Commission, that, related to this Land Use
Change, if the City Commission is inclined to accept a covenant with this Land
Use Change limiting the use of the land as parking only with the appropriate
buffers to protect the adjacent residential uses, the PAB has no objection to the
Land Use Change, by a vote of 9-0. See companion File ID 08-01085zc1.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "Restricted Commercial'.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
DENIED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Direction by Commissioner Gort to the Administration for Public Works to perform a traffic
analysis in this area.
Vice Chair Carollo: Andl'm going to bring backPZ.4, now that Commissioner Suarez is back.
So PZ.4.
Roberto E. Lavernia (Chief of Land Development): Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. Roberto
Lavernia, from the Planning Department.
Vice Chair Carollo: Andl'm sorry; just a second. Commissioner Suarez, the Administration
asked for this item to be deferred, andl wanted to wait until you were -- you returned. Do you
want -- do you wish for this item to be deferred or do you want to hear it?
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, the residents of the area have been waiting pretty much
all day and they requested specifically that it be -- I would prefer a deferral on this matter, but if
they want to go forward with it -- they're in -- back there, but they're not -- Ma'am, pull forward.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Please.
Vice Chair Carollo: Please move up.
Commissioner Suarez: The Planning Department has requested that this item be deferred.
Iraida Mendez: Deferred?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes. Would that be okay with you, or would you --?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Excuse me, Chair. If we're going to have a discussion, I
need the --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Thompson: Okay. I'm sorry.
Ms. Mendez: What would --
Vice Chair Carollo: Name and address --
Ms. Mendez: -- be the reason for the --?
Vice Chair Carollo: -- for the record. Name and --
Ms. Mendez: Mine?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Iraida Mendez: Iraida Mendez, 395 Southwest 6th Street, Miami, Florida 33134.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Vice Chair Carollo: And Commissioner Suarez wants, you know, if -- do you have a problem
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with deferring this item until the next meeting?
Ms. Mendez: Well, can I know -- can I be told for the reason for the deferral?
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Anido.
Bill Anido (Assistant City Manager & Interim Public Works Director): No. That's -- we're ready
to hear the item if the Commission so desires.
Commissioner Suarez: I'm ready to hear the item if you're --
Ms. Mendez: I'm ready.
Commissioner Suarez: -- ready.
Ms. Mendez: I'm ready to -- let's go.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, then, let's hear the item.
Commissioner Suarez: Let's hear.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, hold on, hold on. You're going to --
Commissioner Suarez: Thanks.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- from the Administration.
Commissioner Suarez: Thanks.
Mr. Lavernia: PZ.4 and PZ.5 are companion items. One is the petition to change the Future
Land -Use Map and number 5 is the petition to change the zoning atlas. The recommendation of
the Planning Department in both case [sic] was for denial mainly for intrusion of commercial
uses into a residential street. It went to the Planning Advisory Board and it was recommended
for denial as presented, but there was a separate resolution that the City Commission is inclined
to accept a covenant with this land -use change, limiting the use of the land as parking only.
They will not object. However, it went to the Zoning Board also, and the Zoning Board
recommended denial of the City -- denial of the item for the City Commission consideration.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. The applicant.
Estrella Sibila: Good afternoon. Estrella Sibila, with law offices at 2525 Ponce de Leon
Boulevard. I'm here today on behalf ofRMli1 Properties. They're the owner of the property at
711 Southwest 39th Avenue. It's a small property. It's about 60 feet by 100. It's the site that you
see up on the screen right now. The property's zoned single family. It's surrounded by
commercial uses. And it's basically in a position where it's uninhabitable for residential
purposes. We have -- and l just want to kind of give you a little history of the site here and give
you a little bit of context. This property that you see right here surrounded by the red and black
is the property in question. And this line, the red line, delineates where existing commercial uses
are already taking place. Now existing commercial uses, andl say that because there's a
difference in the way that the zoning map is laid out for a particular property, and it's this
Navarro site right here where the line -- it creates a jog in the line, but what you could see is that
there's actual -- a continuation of the commercial use along the Navarro site to the full portion
that reaches the right-of-way at 7th Street. This is the commercial uses that are to our west.
Directly to our south there's another office building with a smaller building in the rear that has a
beauty function that takes place back there. And then to our -- immediately to our east is the
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DataPro site that's within the boundaries of the City of Coral Gables. Now the reason that we're
here today is to seek a rezoning of this property to C-1. The reason -- the purpose that we are
seeking the rezoning is not to provide any sort of commercial uses on the property, any sort of
expansion to the office building, introduce any sort of use that would create any traffic, or
anything of the like. The only thing that we're asking for is to allow surface parking at this
location. What we've provided for is -- what we can accommodate at this site is essentially nine
parking spaces, and I'd like you to take a close look at this because it's pretty -- what we're
trying to do is provide the protections that we didn't get as this property owner. What you see
here is the commercial portion that abuts directly onto our property. These are their cars.
There's no buffer. There's a short wall, and that's the only thing that's provided to us in terms of
protections for this single-family home. Now, what's happened is there were people that lived
there. People got forced out. There's always a condition where, as you see right here, there's
loading trucks that occur directly infront of the home. There's also cars that come and use and
spill over and park along all this frontage. It's not useable for a single-family home, and people
have had to move out because of that. Now we're pitted in between all of these commercial uses,
and we're just asking to do the same and move this so that the commercial line now comes over
to this property and fronts and lines up with commercial that's taking place over here. Like I
said, we're providing additional safeguards. We would be providing a ten foot landscape buffer
that would be adjacent to the residential site. We'd also be -- we've also designed it so that all of
the parking would come and face towards the commercial so there's no spillover of light effect
that could potentially occur. We've designed it so that there would be a gated entrance where
the -- only nine persons would be the ones that have an access key to be able to enter and exit. It
would only be used by employees. It would not be used by visitors, so it would be limited in use
by the hours of the peak morning and the peak evening hours. We've also provided a left-hand
turn only out from the parking, so whoever goes to leave -- to pull out and leave, they come, do
this function, and they would only be allowed to come this way and not travel through the
residential area, which is a concern that the neighbors have. Now, this area, as you see, there's
a lot of commercial functions that are already taking place, and unfortunately, those functions
have spilled over into the neighborhood, and that's really the concern that some of the folks that
are here against this application have. It's not an issue that we brought upon them. It's not an
issue that we can resolve. It's not an issue that a single-family homeowner at this location would
be able to bear with either. What we're asking is for this rezoning so that we can provide the
additional parking that's needed for our site. Now, ifI could just walk you through these photos,
I want to provide a little bit of context so you could kind of understand what the conditions are in
the area. This is a photo of the single-family home, and as you can see, there's spillover of the
cars that park infront of it, and l just want to walk you through some of them. This is the view
from our front door. It's a lovely view of the loading and unloading functions of the Navarro
site, and there's a little truck that provides noise at all hours. If you continue the view, this is
towards the south, towards the northwest, and you could see how the cars from Navarro continue
all the way around the property. All of this function that you see there behind those palm trees,
that's the area that's zoned for residential; yet, there's clearly commercial uses. And again, all
the cars that spill over, not a function of our use but a function of what's existing there. This is --
what you see in the background is the adjacent commercial site with the gigantic billboard that
kind of hovers over our property; again, not something suitable to be right next to a residential
property. This is a small wall that was built, and that's the buffer that they have to our
residential portion. No buffer. Those are the parking spaces that showed you where they back
up directly onto the single-family house that you see in the background there in the beige. And
that's, you know, the commercial corner piece. This is the commercial building that my
applicant also owns, and it's the DataPro site, and there you see it in the background. Now, this
Commission, at times when you've heard a proposal for surface parking, you may have heard it
for a request for an SD-12 overlay. The reason that we can't request an SD-12 in this particular
application is because of the limitations in the Zoning Code. The Zoning Code for a rezoning to
SD-12 requires that we have 10,000 square feet of area. Here, there's 5,600. We would need a
frontage of 100 feet. Here we have 60. What we've done is we've taken the best of SD-12 in
terms of the safeguards and protections to the neighborhood, such as the buffer, the wall, the
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limitations on traffic flow, and we've taken that and we've incorporated that into our proposal.
What we've also done is the applicant has proffered a covenant that would tie this property to
only parking uses; no other commercial use. And if there was ever to be a proposal in the future,
this would have to come back to this Commission to be able to act on it, if something were to
occur. The applicant is here, if you would like to hear from her. She's here to answer any
questions. There are also a couple of neighbors here that would like to express their concerns
about the proposal. We -- I've met with them personally after the Zoning Board meeting and
again earlier today. There's no -- you know, they -- they're against it; we're for it, so you know,
you'll have the opportunity to hear their perspective as well. I do want you to know that we were
very cautious of the proposal. When DataPro came in, we did let them know the sensitivity that
an application like this would have, and those are the reasons why we've designed it in such a
way to have a minimal impact on the residential users to the north of us and designed it in such a
way so that we can minimize any potential effect of light, noise, traffic onto those neighbors.
And what we've done is actually provided a better design than what the commercial users to our
south provided to us. So I'd like to request a couple of minutes for rebuttal, and I'd like to have
the public hearing be opened so anybody else can discuss.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I have one quick question, Ms. Sibila.
Ms. Sibila: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Suarez: Just by way of understanding what's -- what you're requesting. Is that
parking lot -- that is for employees that go to work in the adjacent commercial building or
structure?
Ms. Sibila: This parking would serve this building back here, and we would provide connectivity
through a ramp. Part of the issue that we have is we can't connect directly from their parking
garage to this site because of -- there's a change in elevation. And ifI could just turn your
attention back to the photos, this shows what the rear of the property looks like, and where you
see that railing above, that's where we would have to elevate to be able to provide connectivity to
this property. It's an impossibility of design, so we would have to access through the 39th Street
to the parking area and provide ramping that would give the person who's parking there the
ability to come up to that same level.
Commissioner Suarez: Would this lot in any way alleviate some of the spillover parking or any
of the parking that is currently -- basically invading the neighborhood?
Ms. Sibila: I'm not sure who all those users are from -- some of the neighbors, what they've said
is it's a combination of Navarro making their employees not park in their Navarro site, so they're
encouraging their employees to park within the neighborhood. And in addition, there's also the
commercial user to our south that has very limited parking. So the times that I've gone by the
site and try to monitor what's happening at different times, I've seen that their cars or cars have
been parked in front of our house and in front of -- basically wherever they can find it.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone else from this Commission wishing to speak? Is there a motion? Is
there a motion? So it's going to die? Is there a motion from --? No. I'm sorry; it's from the
Commissioners.
Unidentified Speaker: Okay.
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Vice Chair Carollo: There is no motion? Item dies. Let's go on to PZ. 6 then.
Commissioner Gort: That's not the process.
Gilberto Pastoriza: Excuse me. Gilberto Pastoriza, 2525 Ponce. I think that this is a public
hearing still and that the other side hasn't, you know, proffered any kind of testimony or anything
like that, but I think that --
Vice Chair Carollo: I have no motion.
Mr. Pastoriza: -- the fact --
Vice Chair Carollo: IfI have no motion, the motion dies, and we move on.
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: IfI may, the applicant is entitled to a decision on the application. And so, if this
Commission does not wish to make a motion to approve, it --
Vice Chair Carollo: It denies.
Ms. Chiaro: -- then it -- then someone needs to make a motion to deny. I suggest that the public
be allowed to speak and that then a motion to approve or deny be acted upon by the City
Commission so that the applicant's due process is applied.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, then let me ask something, 'cause in the past -- and it wasn't on a PZ
(Planning & Zoning) item, but in the past this Commission has not taken the motion and it's died
and we've moved on.
Ms. Chiaro: Yes. That --
Vice Chair Carollo: So it -- that's occurred in the past. And ifI may, Madam City Clerk, do I
have to listen to or open up the public hearing prior to accepting a motion? I mean -- in other
words, can I receive a motion --? IfI don't receive a motion, then not listen to the public? I
mean --
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: -- there is no motion, so I -- if you could -- if you couldn't -- Madam City
Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: The only thing that I will address, Chair, is the parliamentary portion of it, all
right. For any action to be taken, you need a motion. Our rules -- even though we're in
Mason's, you've adopted a resolution -- said you need a second, okay. That's all I could ex -- I
would say I could speak to. The actual part about whether or not you'd have to vote on
something, particularly this being Planning & Zoning, I think we need to defer to the Law
Department. In the past the Commission has done it both ways. You have opened up the public
meeting [sic], you've had your discussion, you've made your motion, and you voted, and you've
done it reversed. You've had your motion, opened up the public hearing, and made a vote, so not
-- you understand what I'm saying?
Vice Chair Carollo: I understand what you're saying, but parliamentary procedures is that
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someone makes a motion and then we -- you know, if there's a second, even if it's second for
discussion, that takes precedence. If there is no motion on the floor, no one wants to make a
motion, then it dies, and I'll -- you know -- that is parliamentary procedure.
Ms. Thompson: But if I'm not mistaken, you can also entertain discussion. Even if you don't act
Mr. Pastoriza: No, no.
Ms. Thompson: -- you can entertain discussion.
Mr. Pastoriza: Don't (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Ms. Thompson: Again, this is a P&Z item, so I want to make sure that we have the input with
your P&Z assistant City Attorney who's the specialist in that area.
Ms. Chiaro: Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Ms. Chiaro: If may?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: Mr. Chair, ifI may clarify.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Chiaro: Based on your previous question as relates to policy in the past and on the matter
that on certain items, when there was not a motion, the item died, you moved on. That related to
items that were nonapplications, non --
Mr. Pastoriza: That's it.
Ms. Chiaro: -- quasi-judicial proceedings.
Mr. Pastoriza: Right.
Ms. Chiaro: If this Commission fails to take action at this meeting and on an application that's
pending, the applicant's due process has not been complied with. So if the Commission doesn't
wish to make a motion today, that's fine, but at some point, the applicant has to have a decision
approving or denying the petition so that the applicant then can make a decision related to
further proceedings.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. So question, let's say now I open up to the public, close the public
hearing, and once again, there is no motion, what occurs then?
Ms. Chiaro: I would --
Commissioner Gort: It stays open.
Mr. Pastoriza: You can't --
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Vice Chair Carollo: Madam City Attorney.
Ms. Chiaro: -- suggest that the Commission must take some action --
Commissioner Dunn: I got it.
Ms. Chiaro: -- on the pending application.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Ms. Chiaro: I would implore you to take some action on the pending application.
Vice Chair Carollo: Unless I pass the gavel andl make a motion. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: I would be inclined to move for a motion of deferment.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Commissioner Dunn to defer. Is there a second?
There is a motion by Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Gort: I'll second it --
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: -- for discussion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second for discussion by Commissioner Gort. Commissioner Gort, you're
recognized.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman, in the past, the -- in zoning matters, what -- the way we
used to do it is you listen to the applicant, you listen to the opposition -- because a lot of times
the applicant and the opposition might be in accordance and you can learn, and then you make
the motion afterwards 'cause you hear from both parties. And then a lot of times you think
you're going to vote certain way, but then when you hear from the people in objection, you might
change your mind. That's why -- that's the way we used to do it in the past. I don't know if that
has changed or not.
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, I'm just following parliamentary procedures. And the truth of the
matter is, once you make a motion and a second, just like we did before, we can always pull it
back. We could always -- you understand what I'm saying? So I mean, I'm just following
parliamentary procedure. But the truth of the matter is, once a motion is on the floor and there's
a second, I'm not going to call the question. I -- you know, we could always pull it back or make
an amendment to the motion or so forth. So anyway, there's a motion on the floor and there's a
second. Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item, please step forward, and name
and address for the record.
Angel Urquiola: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Commissioner Gort: This is to discuss the deferral now, not the issue.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's right.
Mr. Urquiola: Good evening, gentlemen. My name is Angel Urquiola. I live at 25 Southwest
38th Avenue. I neighbor of this place. And let me tell you something, I am member of the
Zoning Board, but I don't come like a member of the board. I come like a taxpayer and neighbor
of this neighborhood. We fight in the neighborhood, a lot of fight to keeping our neighbor [sic]
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clean, beautiful, without crime. The more neighbor [sic] who have the less crime is Flagami,
believe me, because we take care our neighbor [sic], including the area the City own with the
grass, we pay 50, $60 a month to clean it up, our street. The City never spend the money in
Flagami to clean it up, our street. This is how we are very, very proud of our neighbor [sic]. I
notice here on this presentation you can see (UNINTELLIGIBLE) the number
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) they want the variance is 711 Southwest 39th Avenue. This is not the
address. This is the real address, but they are in another address over here for 8th Street.
They're wrong because this a single-family home the one they asking for. We really appreciate if
you member of the board to keeping our neighbor [sic] clean (UNINTELLIGIBLE) because the
owner of this place have a building across the 8th Street. What she want to do is bring the
parking lot she have in the building to the City ofMiami and make it his parking lot more
building for them. If Coral Gables don't give it to City ofMiami, nothing -- never, why we had to
give it to the Coral Gables, including they close all the street. We, the neighbor of Flagami, use
it to go to 37th Avenue, to go to downtown. Now we have only one more street. Thirty-ninth
Avenue is our main traffic, included a lot of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) 8th Street parking in the
neighborhood all the way around. Sometime the neighbor, when they come from work, they have
-- can't park in own parking lot because somebody's parking there, because Navarro has so
many employees. It's a lot of employees over there. No wonder they make a parking for his
working.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Urquiola, if you could wrap it up. Your minutes --
Mr. Urquiola: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- your time is up.
Mr. Urquiola: I really appreciate it, do you do a favor --
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Mr. Urquiola: -- to Flagami, okay?
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Mr. Urquiola: Thank you.
Ms. Mendez: Good afternoon, gentlemen. My name is Iraida Mendez, and I live at 3925
Southwest 6th Street. This lady next to me is my neighbor as well, and we have written a letter
and have signatures from the neighbors since they're majority elderly people and could not
attend. Now, if you allow me to read -- I'm not going to read the whole letter, but will give it to
you with the signatures, if you will allow me to read part of it. Number one, that address is not
approximately. It is exactly at 711 Southwest 39th Avenue. And that address is not surrounded
by commercial. What it is surrounded is on 8th Street. This is 39th Avenue. That's the
single-family residential. And not only that, may I -- we request that you deny the Zoning Code
request by DataPro. This is a company that is in Coral Gables. They could add -- above the
parking lot that they have, they may be able to add. Of course, it would be a lot more expensive
for them. Now, the -- we would like to ask you to consider the neighbors of this area of the City
ofMiami for -- that we have -- that this single-family residential status for over 60 years, and
now is the request of the variance of the Code to establish the parking lot for the company, which
is not even in the City ofMiami that would create horrific intrusion to our neighborhood, which
is already completely saturated with a traffic situation. The location in question is 711
Southwest 39th Avenue, Miami, as I mentioned before. Across the street on the west side you
have Navarro Pharmacy, their parking lot, their in and out traffic, and you also have the vendors
unloading and loading the merchandise for Navarro.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, your two minutes are up. Would she give you her two minutes?
She --
Ms. Mendez: Then you have another -- she said she's conceded.
Joneta Matis: Oh, yeah, I concede.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay.
Ms. Mendez: We're not used to this. Okay.
Commissioner Gort: You're doing very good.
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, ma'am.
Commissioner Gort: You're doing good.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. Start the clock again, please.
Ms. Mendez: Okay. Then we have the other parking lot, which belongs to the address of 3875
Southwest 8th Street, and they have -- City ofMiami evidently allowed for them to create an
annex to that building, which faces Coral Gables -- I mean, 8th Street, and then they made a
parking lot that is on 39th Avenue, but that address also is 3885 Southwest 8th Street, and I'm
sure that's how they applied for the permit. Now you have this. And this intrusion in our streets
creates a terrific chaos. You have an intersection of 8th Street and Ponce, which is outrageous.
The people avoiding 8th Street. They go into our streets. And then all this millions of dollars,
billions, that they -- the City ofMiami has spent on Miami 21 -- and we have attended their
meetings, as well -- saying that their studies is to better the City ofMiami, the residential areas
and the greenery, and this is really defeating the purpose. And what was the purpose of
spending our tax money? We would like to keep it (UNINTELLIGIBLE) I can -- I will like to
leave this letter with you, as well as a picture of a crash because they drive through our streets
crazy, because everybody is avoiding 8th Street and the streets that had been closed by Coral
Gables, so we're stuck, we're in the middle, and we need help. You -- Navarro is approved,
they're there. They've been there for about 30 years, so there's nothing we can do. The traffic
she's mentioning is the swale that people park. It could be probably the neighbors. They don't
have anything. Navarro stops on 7th Street. What they have is a wall.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. If you could wrap it up. Thank you.
Ms. Mendez: And that's it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there anyone else from the public wishing to speak on this item?
Ms. Matis: Yes, I do.
Vice Chair Carollo: You gave your two minutes up to --
Ms. Matis: To her.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- her.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
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Commissioner Suarez: I have some questions for Ms. -- it's Mendez or Menendez?
Commissioner Gort: Mendez.
Vice Chair Carollo: Ms. Mendez, if you could approach the podium.
Commissioner Suarez: Ms. Mendez, please, if you could approach the podium. I have some
questions for you.
Ms. Mendez: Sure.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. How many people did you discuss that letter with or sign on to
that letter?
Ms. Mendez: We discussed it with -- well, the ones that signed are 33.
Commissioner Suarez: Thirty-three of the adjacent homeowners are in agreement with --?
Ms. Mendez: The 500 feet, I believe.
Commissioner Suarez: Right, right.
Ms. Mendez: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: The notice --
Ms. Mendez: The notice that went out.
Commissioner Suarez: -- parameter?
Ms. Mendez: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Suarez: Right. And so you've -- 33 people have signed on to your letter. Is there
any --? I mean, I know that Ms. Sibila framed it as something -- I mean, is there any way that
you --? Andl kind of agree with Commissioner Gort and Commissioner Dunn on the last item.
Is there any way that you think you would benefit --? And let me -- I'm an attorney, so usually in
a litigation matter, you're required to go to mediation in every litigation matter, meaning you're
required to bring the parties together to see if you can find common ground, and if there's
anything -- and you know, my -- I'm a home -- I was a board member for my homeowners
association, so I understand, and it's a beautiful neighborhood that's a single-family residents,
and we don't want intrusion in our neighborhood, and I'm sure you don't either, andl want to do
everything to protect your interest. At the same time, generally, I like to give the parties an
opportunity --
Ms. Mendez: Absolutely.
Commissioner Suarez: -- to get together and maybe there is a way -- you'd be surprised how
creative people can get when they have the impression that they're not going to get their way in
terms of creating landscaping, creating buffers, creating differences in the approach that can be
palatable for the neighborhood. If you think in any way that you and the neighbors can -- would
benefit from a 30-day delay or 60 -- in the 30 or 60 days, nothing will happen. In other words,
nothing negative will happen if we delay it. It will remain as -is. It will not be changed. I think
it's prudent to at least give the two parties one opportunity to come together and really try to
work on a potential solution, because I do understand some of their arguments from the
perspective of it being kind of wedged --
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Ms. Mendez: No.
Commissioner Suarez: No?
Ms. Mendez: Excuse me. That is strictly 39th Avenue.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Ms. Mendez: That is strictly --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Ms. Mendez: -- City ofMiami.
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Ms. Mendez: That is not commercial.
Commissioner Suarez: Right. And I'm not --
Ms. Mendez: And that's the last address --
Commissioner Suarez: -- disagreeing with you.
Ms. Mendez: The only -- we're not surrounded by commercial --
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am?
Ms. Mendez: -- businesses.
Commissioner Suarez: I'm agreeing with you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am -- Commissioner, ma'am, if you could start addressing me, so it's --
Ms. Mendez: I'm sorry.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, may I?
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
Commissioner Suarez: I don't disagree with you. I think --
Vice Chair Carollo: Address me, and you know, she'll hear you, but don't want that back and
forth 'cause it seems like you all --
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- starting to talk one --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- on top of each other.
Ms. Mendez: Sorry.
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Commissioner Suarez: I think the tenure of this Commission and the message that we sent today
in the prior item that we voted for is that we want to preserve the integrity of neighborhoods,
period, okay. So you know, that's the signal that we're sending. But by the same token, I think it
may be beneficial to meet and see if you could possibly work something out. I think that would
be a gesture of goodwill on your part. No?
Ms. Mendez: No, because we have spoken before, this young lady and myself and the neighbors
have definitely had it.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Mendez: We have Navarro and we have the other parking space, a lot that's there, and you
can -- there's no way to stop the traffic. If the parking lot is there, the cars are there, what
solution can you give? They're there. They got to get in. They got to get out. You can't, you
know -- andl don't think it's fair that the City ofMiami wouldn't protect their citizens and their
taxpayers.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez. Commissioner. Do you have a question,
Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Suarez: I think the other Commissioner would like to say something.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. I still have the public hearing open. Can we close it, or do you
really --?
Ms. Sibila: I still have time for rebuttal that had requested.
Vice Chair Carollo: Hold on one second. Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Before you go -- may I, Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: The motion in front of us today is to defer. Now the biggest problem in that
neighborhood is the traffic coming from 8th Street going through it, and maybe -- I was thinking
that maybe a traffic study where they can close the street to keep the cars out of your
neighborhood might be a way that can be done. In other words, your biggest problem is people
going through your neighborhood, not trying to go through 8th Street because of the back --
Ms. Mendez: No, but --
Commissioner Gort: -- up or the -- maybe if we can close that street in there, that'll keep the
traffic out of that neighborhood. I don't know. That's food for thought.
Ms. Mendez: Yeah. That's part of it.
Commissioner Gort: So in other words, request that they go through a traffic study and come up
with a suggestion.
Ms. Mendez: Once we --
Commissioner Gort: Because their biggest problem is people going into the neighborhood.
Ms. Mendez: No. Okay. But once they park, they come out. They're not going to stay in the
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parking lot. They have to come out.
Commissioner Gort: No, no. I'm talking about your street.
Ms. Mendez: Yes, but then --
Commissioner Gort: So they cannot go through 39th Avenue. They cannot go into your
neighborhood because they'll -- you'll block -- and just like Coral Gables done, Coral Gables --
Ms. Mendez: What about the houses that are right next to that house?
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, address me, please.
Commissioner Gort: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Ms. Mendez: I'm sorry.
Commissioner Gort: Just food for thought.
Vice Chair Carollo: That's okay.
Commissioner Gort: That's all.
Ms. Mendez: Okay. Yes, Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. Just -- you had an answer for the Commissioner. If --
Ms. Mendez: Oh.
Vice Chair Carollo: No?
Ms. Mendez: I already --I thought had answered him. Me?
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay, fine.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. Actually, I like the Commissioner's suggestion, because in my
neighborhood they have the streets blocked off. I think what the Commissioner's suggesting is
that maybe this can be deferred -- hear me out -- with the idea of doing a traffic -- which means
nothing will happen -- study so that at that property and no further there can be a blockage of
the ingress and egress into the neighborhood. We have that in other parts of the City. I'm not
sure that that's something that the neighborhood would want or not want. It's something that
takes a lot of work because you have to get all the neighbors on board, but -- you know, we want
to protect your neighborhood, bottom line, so --
Ms. Mendez: But remember, next to that -- those two -- Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, ma'am.
Ms. Mendez: Sorry, sorry.
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Vice Chair Carollo: You're recognized.
Ms. Mendez: Apologize.
Vice Chair Carollo: We're getting there.
Mr. Uquiola: Mr. Chairman, may I ask --?
Ms. Mendez: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: No, no.
Mr. Urquiola: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) some explanation to the Commissioner --
Vice Chair Carollo: If she could speak, please? If she -- she's recognized. She has the floor.
Ms. Mendez: Thank you. Okay. But remember, they're neighbors next door to that parking lot
and across. You're going to lock [sic] out those people from there? How are you going to block
those out? I don't see how it could be done.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair. No. The way -- if you look at that map, Mr. Chair --
Ms. Mendez: Yes. It's not very clear.
Commissioner Suarez: Come over here. If you look at that map -- if you can bring it here, Mr.
Pastoriza. One -- yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: Hold on. Whoa. Commissioner Gort, please. Ma'am.
Commissioner Suarez: Ma'am --
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, Commissioner Suarez is addressing you.
Commissioner Suarez: -- if you could, please. Through the Chair. If you look at this map, if
you were to close the street here --
Vice Chair Carollo: It needs to be on the mike.
Commissioner Suarez: -- here or here --
Ms. Mendez: Then how are the people going to get from (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F)?
Commissioner Suarez: They can't. You would be, in essence, blocking this --
Ms. Mendez: But how can we get in? In other words --
Ms. Thompson: I am so sorry, Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: All right. Yes. I know, Madam City Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
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Commissioner Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: Again, ma'am, if you could address me with the questions and -- I know, I
know, I know. It's -- I understand.
Commissioner Suarez: You're doing fine.
Vice Chair Carollo: If you could go back -- yeah, go to -- back to the mike. Or you know what,
ma'am, she has the portable mike. If you could stand by the drawing, and Commissioner Suarez,
if you could explain.
Commissioner Suarez: Sure. What I was saying is that in some -- Mr. Chair, in some
neighborhoods, if traffic is a problem, if the traffic coming in and out of the neighborhood is a
problem, okay, and you want to limit the amount of traffic coming in and out of the
neighborhood and you also want to reduce maybe some of the parking in that area, one thing
that you could do and that is done in other areas -- the neighborhood where I live is one of them
-- is you can block off either partially or entirely the street, okay. And what that does is it
prevents cars from, you know, congesting that neighborhood. And then obviously, you would
have to get in and out of that neighborhood through other means. Right. So that's just one
potential solution. Andl think the Commissioner was addressing -- 'cause what we try to come
up with here is solutions that everyone can be happy with, if it's possible. If it's not possible, it's
not possible, you know.
Ms. Mendez: May I?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah.
Ms. Mendez: Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Mendez: My question -- my answer is the following. Do you mean to tell me to -- that to
allow this, you're going to inconvenience the neighbors that have to find another way in, go all
the way from Ponce almost to (UNINTET,TIGIBT,F) to go in? If not, we have to get into the
traffic on 8th Street to go in through 39th Court and go around. So in other words, to allow a
parking lot for someone that doesn't even pay the taxes of the City ofMiami, you're going to
inconvenience us, the neighbors, City ofMiami, living there -- residents living there for years
and years. This doesn't work.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I'm --
Vice Chair Carollo: With that said, I want to just discuss with the member -- you know, my
colleagues, it seems -- it appears like in this situation, a deferral may not solve it, so we may just
vote it up and down --
Commissioner Dunn: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- up or down because of what Madam City Attorney had mentioned So we
may just have to, you know, take the motion and either vote it up and down -- up or down.
Ms. Sibila: IfI may just comment -- have a few comments for rebuttal?
Vice Chair Carollo: Probably, before we do that, I'll give you a chance to rebut. And still
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haven't -- and before I give you the chance to rebut, I still have not closed the public hearing.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: So is there anyone else from the public wishing to speak on this item?
Name and address for the record.
Grace Solares: Grace Solares, 60 Southwest 30th Road. I fully support the neighbors in that
area. It's also a very dangerous thing to take an R-1 and then convert it into commercial --
restricted commercial. What stops them from buying the next -- house next to the present house,
and about three months from now coming with the same argument, "Gee, you know, we have a
lot of people here. Let's go ahead" And then there's going to be assemblage of lots. In about a
year, they're going to have the entire lot. They come here for a change in zoning, and then
they're going to build who knows what. It is dangerous. That's what the Diaz Administration
continued doing throughout the eight years they were here. This is a brand-new day. We should
support the neighbors ofMiami. Thankyou.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Ms. Solares. Anyone else from the public wishing to speak on
this item? Name and address for the record, please.
Luis Herrera: My name is Luis Herrera, president of Vizcaya Homeowner Association. I think
for years we tried to protect the neighborhoods, including my neighborhood, and the suits
because I got some cases going to Supreme Court years back. And for the reason that I -- we
have to be protecting the neighborhood and the City ofMiami -- that's why we have the problem
we have right now where all the kind of buildings that we have empties, and then you open the
door and they're in the parking lot. They changing the land use for C-1. They can do whatever
they want after he change the land, and it's a danger for the residential because it's like a
domino. Oh, you got it over here on 39th Avenue and Southwest 8th Street, whatever the
address, 711 Southwest 39th Street. And then we can change it in my neighborhood, in your
neighborhood, in his neighborhood, in his neighborhood, and they continue. It's a domino
effect. So try to protect our neighborhood. They can -- Why they want to change it, the zoning
over there? What it used to be -- have it a residential. What is the purpose to use on parking? I
don't see the purpose to use on parking. The level is not the same way, like she mentioned. And
I think we have to be protecting the neighborhood. Thank you. I'm against this project.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou, Mr. Herrera. Anyone else from the public wishing to speak?
Herschel Haynes: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Name and address for the record, sir, please.
Mr. Haynes: My name is Herschel Haynes, andl reside at 4601 Northwest 15th Avenue, Miami,
Florida 33142, and I'm also Chairman of the Hadley Park/Model City Homeowners Association,
cochair MNU (Miami Neighborhoods United). Andl totally agree with my chair and what -- just
said prior to me. I think it was Mr. Suarez -- Commissioner Suarez early on made a statement,
and it was very, very eloquent. And you do have the right and we elect you to make decisions.
However, I shared with our Commissioner Dunn at one of his town hall meetings how important
it is to keep -- not reinvent the wheel -- in touch with what is in place before you got here, what
was in place with Commissioner Willy Gort. And this is a key person right here. I respect him to
the highest. And was privileged to be on the Charter Reform Committee under his guidance,
and I'd just like to share with you -- and he can attest to this -- one of the most important thing in
my opinion within the charter is that piece where it says, no Mayor, no Commissioner may place
a corporation and et cetera -- a company, et cetera, above the people, which segues right into
the Constitution where the preambletel [sic] leads off with "We, the people, of the United States
of America, in order to form a perfect union, establish justice," and do all of those great things
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like promote the general welfare. And so I totally side with the community in this regard.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, sir. Anyone else from the public?
Ms. Matis: Yes, please.
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, your --you gave up your two minutes to the lady.
Ms. Matis: Yes, I did. But I only have two minutes to talk to and explain to you -- I am a
homeowner. I live -- my name is Joneta Matis, andl live in the neighborhood for 43 years. And
you gave me two minutes to explain to you what my problem is?
Vice Chair Carollo: That is the norm.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. Madam City Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: Again, you have a speaker --
Commissioner Gort: Into the mike.
Ms. Thompson: -- that's going to be on the record unidentified --
Commissioner Gort: Speak in the mike.
Ms. Thompson: -- so I need that name.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'll allow it, ma'am, but just -- andl understand, maybe you didn't
understand, and maybe that was my fault. I should have made sure that you do understand. The
norm is for everyone to receive two minutes, so I just try to be fair about it. And maybe you
didn't understand you were giving up your two minutes, I don't know, and maybe it's my fault. I
should have made sure that, you know, you understood. But with that said, we're going to give
you two minutes. Please, just give your name and address for the record.
Ms. Matis: Yes. My name is Joneta Matis. I live at 3900 Southwest 6th Street for the last 43
years. And when you says two minutes, I'm sorry, I am not a lawyer. But unfortunately, you
know, with Navarro store that we -- you saw the picture, and we have to suffer the traffic and
everything else. And now we're going back to the same thing with -- the only difference is -- and
I hope that you people understand our problem as a, you know, homeowners. I hope and pray
that you understand and you think about and you try to do the best for everybody, not only for
us; also for them. Because the City of Coral Gables -- because it's Coral Gables can do
anything they want, but we have to suffer the consequences. Thank you for your time.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. And knowing or assuming that you were not an
attorney, that's why I used the Chairman's discretion andl allowed you the two minutes, so --
anyone else from the public wishing to speak on this item? Anyone else from the public wishing
to speak on this item? Hearing none, seeing none, the public meeting -- public hearing is closed.
Ms. Sibila: I get to rebut, though, still.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. Go ahead, ma'am.
Ms. Sibila: Mr. Commissioners, just a couple of points that we want to make. The reason that
we're seeking this is because it's not a useable place for a single-family home. This property's
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fallen in disrepair from the prior owners, and it has a history of Code enforcement issues against
it with trash, with being unkept, with illicit activity occurring at the site. The reason -- one of the
reasons that they purchased it as well is because it started deteriorating to the point that all this
activity that was taking place was starting to not only hinder the residents of the City ofMiami,
but also the business that they're having at their property as well. I also like to remind you, you
all do have powers and safeguards that we're providing to you. This declaration of restricted
covenant would provide that the property would only be used for surface parking, no matter
what the C-1 category would allow. We're only allowed to do surface parking. We're required
in this covenant to maintain the ten foot wide landscape buffer that you see in the portion of the
property that's nearest to the residential home. That's an additional safeguard that we provide
to the residents that's not afforded to this residential property right now. So even if this were to
be maintained residential and a residential owner came here, they're still going to suffer what
this property has suffered, why it's declined in value, and the reason why it's been essentially
abandoned for a residential use. We're providing only nine spaces here. We're essentially
taking cars that would otherwise be on the street and moving them into the property. That's
taking away some of the traffic issues and some of the congestion that these folks are already
facing. The situation that's been brought upon by Navarro isn't anything that we can solve. It's
not something that we're adding to. It's something that we're trying to take away from and
respect the neighbors at the same time. I'd also like to emphasize the declaration of restricted
covenants protects you, and there's another protection as well that you could add to this today
and we'd be completely in favor of. And let me explain what that is. The district boundary line
that we're asking to be moved would be from this portion to the end of our property. What you
all could do in order to avoid the situation whereas the residents raise their concern, another
property owner might come in and continue to buy all these and try to come in for a rezoning.
Simply enough, this Commission can ask -- can make the rezoning only for the 50 feet and leave
the northern 10 feet of this site as single family. That would allow the use that we're proposing
and the same configuration that's already been looked at by zoning. It would also protect the
neighbors from not having the potential of any of these property owners to the north coming in
and seeking a rezoning to commercial. In addition, it would provide the buffering effect that we
would have to the residential owner to the north that they currently don't have the benefit of right
now. Again, when we were approached by the property owner, we evaluated this and took into
account the issues that we thought the neighbors would have. We were very cautious of those
and that's the reason why you see the buffering, the covenant, the declaration, and everything
else that we've provided. And again, I'd like you to consider the rezoning for this and the
land -use change, and maybe if your -- if this Commission would so consider just rezoning the 50
feet and leaving that 10-foot single family to give those additional protections to the neighbors.
And with that, I'd like to close, and I'd like to ask for this Commission's support on this
application this evening. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. I want to bring it back to the Commission for a little
discussion, and then, you know, let's try to wrap it up. Right now on the floor we have a motion
to defer, which has been seconded. It does not appear that deferring this item is going to give
any resolution, so I think we should really vote it up or down. However, I do want to hear from
the district Commissioner, and if he so chooses and thinks we should vote it up or down, you
know, I would ask the maker of the motion and seconder to withdraw and then ask the, you know,
district Commissioner to make the motion.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I think -- unfortunately, I think some of the solutions that you proffered
are very creative in terms of trying to do what you can to buffer the impact of whatever it is that
you're going to do there for the parking lot from the residences, and you know, at the end of the
day, you know, our obligation is to respond to the residents. And the residents are here and
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they, you know, organized themselves in such a fashion, and so has the other neighborhood
associations, to oppose this particular rezoning. So -- I mean, the reason why I initially wanted
a deferral was because I agreed with Commissioner Gort. As a citizen, as an attorney, and as
someone who's represented an association, oftentimes what appears to be an antagonistic
situation when the parties come together in good faith and discuss it, something can be worked
out, but you know, it doesn't seem like that's the case here. It just doesn't. So I can't be in favor
of a rezoning of this property or a land -use change under the circumstances, unless the -- you
know, unless the residents are willing to discuss it further.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Commissioner. And with that said, I'm going to ask my
colleagues if they would withdraw their motion to defer?
Commissioner Gort: He made the motion.
Commissioner Dunn: I made the motion.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Would you withdraw the motion?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes, of course, if that's the will of the --
Commissioner Gort: Withdraw.
Commissioner Dunn: -- yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. And then Commissioner Suarez, do you have a --?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes. I will move to deny the land -use, PZ.4, and the zoning change,
PZ.5.
Vice Chair Carollo: I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez. Is there a second?
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Dunn. Any further discussion? It is an
ordinance. Madam City Attorney, please read --
Commissioner Gort: Wait a minute. Under discussion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: I'd like for the Public Works Department to do an analysis and a study, see
if they can do something with the traffic flow in there.
Mr. Anido: We will do so, Commissioner.
Commissioner Gort: Because I think that's one of the major problems that they have there.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chair, ifI may?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I'd also like to ask the owner -- are you the owner of the property? I'd
like to ask the owner of the property to possibly get with our Administration to see if there is
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another way that we, maybe the City, can acquire the property or something, because I
understand your argument as far as it being a single-family residence and having that in front of
you. I don't know to what extent we can make it into a park or any other use that we can have
some kind of a, you know, useful -- you know, use for that property, but -- you know, so I would
encourage you to explore other options.
Yamile Montero: I understand the neighbors, but we're (UNINTELLIGIBLE) --
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, you need --
Ms. Montero: Oh, I'm sorry. Yamile Montero.
Vice Chair Carollo: Name and address for the record.
Ms. Montero: Yamile Montero, in 770 Ponce de Leon Boulevard. I understand the neighbors.
We're a victim of Navarro too. But you know, this is nine cars and it's going to be left -only. It's
not going to affect them in any means because right in front of our property is Navarro, so it's
not like there's -- it's going to be kids riding their bicycles or -- and our employees are not going
to be going through their neighborhood. It's going to be a left -only right into 8th Street. It's not
going to affect them, but -- and if we can work with them in any way to try to accommodate them
as far as maybe closing off the street -- you know, we're also City ofMiami. We have property in
the City ofMiami, so we can also maybe push for that, if that help in any means -- in any ways.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Any further discussion from the Commission? I just have a
question to the City Attorney and possibly the City Clerk. PZ.4 andPZ.5 are companion items. I
guess we take them one at a time?
Ms. Chiaro: Well, you can take them together because a motion to deny --
Vice Chair Carollo: Does what?
Ms. Chiaro: -- PZ.4 --
Commissioner Gort: Automatically.
Ms. Chiaro: -- then makes PZ.5 moot. And if there is a motion to deny, I don't need to read the
ordinance into the record.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. And you do not need to read --
Ms. Chiaro: I do not.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. Thank you for the explanation. All in favor, say "aye." Motion dies.
Ms. Chiaro: No, motion passes.
Ms. Thompson: It's denied.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion is denied. Thank you for that.
Ms. Sibila: Thank you.
PZ.5 08-01085zc1 ORDINANCE First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING PAGE NO. 32, OF THE ZONING ATLAS OF
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ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"R-1" SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO "C-1" RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL,
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 711 SOUTHWEST
39TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-01085zc1 Analysis.pdf
08-01085zc1 Zoning Map.pdf
08-01085zc1 Aerial Map.pdf
08-01085zc1 Miami 21 Zoning Map.pdf
08-01085zc1 Letter of Intent.pdf
08-01085zc1 Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
08-01085zc1 ZB Reso.pdf
08-01085zc1 CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
08-010851u1 & 08-01085zc1 Exhibit A.pdf
08-01085zc1 CC FR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 711 SW 39th Avenue [Commissioner Francis
Suarez - District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Gilberto Pastoriza, Esquire and Estrella Sibila, Esquire, on
behalf of RMM Properties, Ltd.
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial.
ZONING BOARD: Recommended denial to City Commission on December 14,
2009 by a vote of 6-0. See companion File ID 08-010851u1.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to "C-1" Restricted
Commercial. The applicant will proffer a covenant for this property.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
DENIED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Note for the Record: For minutes related to PZ.5, see PZ.4.
PZ.6 09-013001u ORDINANCE First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES SUBJECT TO §163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF REAL PROPERTIES
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3500, 3524, 3550, 3590, 3592 SOUTHWEST
7TH STREET; 710 SOUTHWEST 35TH AVENUE AND 711 SOUTHWEST
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36TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM "DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL" TO
"RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL"; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING
TRANSMITTALS TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09-013001u CC Analysis.pdf
09-013001u Land Use Map.pdf
09-013001u Aerial Map.pdf
09-013001u PAB Reso.pdf
09-013001u Miami -Dade County Public School Concurrency.pdf
09-013001u Application & Supporting Documents.pdf
09-013001u CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
09-013001u & 09-01300zc Exhibit A.pdf
09-013001u CC FR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
09-013001u-Submittal-Gilberto Pastoriza-Declaration of Restrictive Covenants.pdf
09-013001u-Submittal-Gilberto Pastoriza.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3500, 3524, 3550, 3590, 3592 SW 7th Street; 710
SW 35th Avenue and 711 SW 36th Avenue [Commissioner Francis Suarez -
District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Gilberto Pastoriza, Esquire and Estrellita Sibila, Esquire, on
behalf of COVA, Inc., Felipe A. Valls, Jr. as Trustee, Felipe A. Valls, Sr. and
Aminta Valls
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial.
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD: Recommended approval to City Commission
on December 2, 2009 by a vote of 9-0; except for the North twenty feet parallel
to Southwest 7th Street, which is to remain with the "Duplex Residential" Land
Use designation. See companion File ID 09-01300zc.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "Restricted Commercial'.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.6.
Roberto Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning Department): Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Lavernia: For the records [sic] again, Roberto Lavernia, with the Planning Department.
PZ. 6 and PZ.7 are also companion items. The land -use and zoning change request for those
properties facing Southwest 7th Street, between 35th and 36th Avenue, that is the back of the
Versailles restaurant. The change is from duplex residential to restricted commercial. The
Planning Department recommend denial for the same reason: intrusion of commercial uses into
residential streets or area. The Planning Advisory Board recommended approval to City
Commission, except for the north 20 feet parallel to Southwest 7th Street, which is to remain
duplex residential. In the Zoning Board --
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Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry. Commissioner Suarez specifically requested to be present when
the items in his district was being heard or -- he actually requested that the item be not heard if
he wasn't present, but he stepped out, so --
Commissioner Gort: We take five?
Vice Chair Carollo: I say we take a five-minute recess, okay. Thank you.
[Later...]
Vice Chair Carollo: (INAUDIBLE) PZ (Planning & Zoning) meeting, and PZ.6. If you can start
from the beginning again, since the district Commissioner is here. Thankyou.
Mr. Lavernia: Hello. For the records [sic] again, Roberto Lavernia, with the Planning
Department. PZ. 6 and PZ.7 are companion items, petition of change the future land -use map of
the Comprehensive Plan and the zoning atlas of 11000. The petition is from duplex residential
to restricted commercial. The Planning Department recommend denial for commercial intrusion
into residential area. Planning Advisory Board recommend approval with the exception of the
north 20 feet parallel to Southwest 7th Street to remain duplex residential to avoid domino effect.
On PZ.7 the Zoning Board recommend approval based on the representation of the applicant
that a covenant will be proffered to the City Commission with the following conditions: 1) allow
the same uses as a T4 transect in Miami 21 to allow for the expansion of the restaurant and
bakery; 2) limit height not to exceed 39 feet; 3) prevent ingress and egress on Southwest 7th
Street; and 4) provide a 10 foot landscape buffer. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Gilberto Pastoriza: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission. Gilberto
Pastoriza, 2525 Ponce de Leon. I'm here representing the Valls family on this application. We -
- like your Department just told you, we're seeking a comp plan amendment from duplex to
restricted commercial and a rezoning from R-2 to C-1. As you can see here in the map, the
properties in question are properties that are outlined in the heavy black here. This right here is
the current Versailles restaurant on this corner and the Versailles bakery on the corner toward
35th Avenue. I think it's important to note that the properties that we have to the west, they have
- - they're both -- they're all zoned commercial, the entire block, from Southwest 8th Street to 7th
Street so that we're basically following the line of that Southwest 7th Street, Southwest 8th Street.
The proposed request is really necessary for the continued growth and the health of the
Versailles restaurant and the bakery. For better or for worse, we are a victim of our own
success. Versailles currently employs more than 350 people and serves in excess of 1,000
patrons each day. Versailles is a world-renowned destination that, as you all know, attracts
politicians, businessmen, and the regular -- you know, the regular person who likes to go there
and just to have a cafecito and maybe talk a little bit of politics. In order to efficiently and
economically accommodate our clientele and the services that Versailles now has on its
property, we need to modernize our facilities, we need to make improvements to our buildings,
and to some buildings we need to add or extend them a little bit. Versailles has been in this
location for 38 years. Versailles wants to continue being there for as long as it can. I -- I'm not
going to, you know, bore you with all the comp plan goals, policies, and objectives that this
application is consistent with. What I would like to do so that the record will reflect it is hand to
your Clerk a list of those comp plan goals, policies, and objectives that meet this -- that are
consistent with this application. This application is infill growth with all the infrastructures
surrounding the property. It meets all your levels of services standards, and we believe it's
consistent with like 10 or 15 of the land -use policies that I've given to your Clerk. Versailles is
willing to -- recognizing the neighbors to the north, Versailles is willing -- andl would submit a
covenant to that effect, which I'll give a copy to your Clerk and a copy to your City Attorney and
a copy to your Planning Department. And basically what the covenant says is we will provide a
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10 foot buffer all along Southwest 7th Street there -- with extensive landscaping and a 6-foot
wall at the end of that buffer. Also, there will be no ingress and egress from this side to
Southwest 7th Street. I think that -- I don't know whether Mr. Valls wanted to say a few words.
And what would ask you is that you please -- respectfully request that you approve this
application. Thankyou. Mr. Valls.
Felipe Valls: Commissioners, good afternoon. Felipe Valls, Jr., 3553 Southwest 8th Street is
our offices. Basically what we're asking for here is -- and what we will be willing to do --
Versailles, as you know, has a tremendous problem in the neighborhood with customers parking
at everybody's houses. It's always had that problem. We've grown our parking, but it still has
that problem. In fact, as different to almost any other meeting I've seen of these, we've had
neighbors here in the last two meetings with the board and so forth in not opposing but in favor
of us increasing our parking because it's become a problem for them. It always has been.
They're always on those swales on the sides of the street. This would obviously eliminate it.
With this amount of parking, we'd be clean of that and they'd have nobody going into 7th Street.
So 7th Street, in essence, would be completely closed, all the accesses would be to the side,
which you know today are there. The ones that go to the other parking lot and to the other
commercial side, and it's commercial all obviously to 8th Street. We will be doing extensive
landscaping there with the idea of building, if anything, Versailles -- we're not doing this --
obviously, it's a very expensive proposition to buy all this land for a restaurant, but for us it's a
very meaningful restaurant. And mainly we want to do is -- and as far as building, would be the
back of the Versailles restaurant. As you know, it's a little bit sightly on the open end of that
facade. We want to kind of build something against that building to kind of close the building
and make it a nice building all the way around instead of having that open side. We're not going
to expand the restaurant to twice the size. We're not doing this to build obviously, you know,
residential or any commercial building either. You all know how Versailles is. You know the
immense problem it has with parking, so basically, this would be something -- it would be going
for many years as that, and all we're asking is that you understand that it's commercial on both
sides, that our neighbors are in favor of us doing this, and we had 30 of them here the other day.
You can have the record -- so we have really no opposition. Everybody's in favor. It would
beautin, that whole area and that pod there that sits that Versailles is so -- been there so many
years. Basically, that's it. Thankyou.
Mr. Pastoriza: Thank you. And we're here to answer any questions you may have.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: I'll move the item along.
Commissioner Dunn: I'll second.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Commissioner Suarez and there is a second by
Commissioner Dunn. I'm going to open up the public hearing. Anyone from the public wishing
to speak on this item? Is there anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item? Hearing
none and seeing none, the public hearing is closed; back to the Commission. Any discussion?
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair --
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: -- aside from following the lead of our district Commissioner and this
great change, I do want to compliment you on the food I enjoy it very much. I figured we
needed a laugh after all this today. It's a -- and that's a true statement, though. I do. I've been
there at midnight, one o'clock, 2 o'clock. I know I can always go on Southwest 8th Street and get
me some black beans and rice.
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Mr. Valls: Thank you. We just hope to extend the years and to continue giving those services.
Thank you.
Commissioner Gort: I think Versailles --
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: -- has become sort of a symbol of what the immigrants have done in this
City ofMiami where they come in, they had a small restaurant. And today, let's face it,
Versailles is known worldwide. And any time you need the -- in the newscast they have some
news coming out, they go to Versailles to get their interviews over there, so not only it has
become a news item, but also a tourist attraction with a lot of the people that go in there to try
the food and so on. And Frank, I see you got the son running it. I think you'll probably have a
grandson coming up too, so it's going to be there for 100 years, stuff like that. Congratulations
to you all.
Mr. Valls: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Any further discussion? Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, I too want to commend the food, and it's an enjoyable
experience going in your restaurant. It's a long-time staple of our community. I think you've
proffered this in a very responsible way, in a way that acknowledges the challenges of growing a
restaurant nearing a residential area. Andl appreciate the covenants that you proffered to
ensure that there are appropriate buffers between the residences and the commercial
establishments. So it's with great privilege that I sit here before you moving this item along.
Vice Chair Carollo: Any further discussion? Hearing none, Madam City Attorney, please read
the ordinance into the record.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Ms. Thompson: Roll --
Vice Chair Carollo: Roll call.
Ms. Thompson: -- call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 4-0.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Mr. Valls: Thank you very much.
PZ.7 09-01300zc ORDINANCE
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING PAGE NO. 33, OF THE ZONING ATLAS OF
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM
"R-2" TWO-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO "C-1" RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL,
FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3500, 3524, 3550,
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3590, 3592 SOUTHWEST 7TH STREET; 710 SOUTHWEST 35TH AVENUE
AND 711 SOUTHWEST 36TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING
FINDINGS; CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09-01300zc Analysis - NEW.pdf
09-01300zc Zoning Map.pdf
09-01300zc Aerial Map.pdf
09-01300zc Miami21 Map.pdf
09-01300zc Letter of Intent.pdf
09-01300zc Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
09-01300zc Survey.pdf
09-01300zc ZB Reso.pdf
09-01300zc CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
09-013001u & 09-01300zc Exhibit A. pdf
09-01300zc CC FR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
09-01300zc-Submittal-Gilberto Pastoriza-Declaration of Restrictive Covenants. pdf
09-01300zc-Submittal-Gilberto Pastoriza.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3500, 3524, 3550, 3590, 3592 SW 7th Street; 710
SW 35th Avenue and 711 SW 36th Avenue [Commissioner Francis Suarez -
District 4]
APPLICANT(S): Gilberto Pastoriza, Esquire and Estrella Sibila, Esquire, on
behalf of COVA, INC., Felipe A. Valls, Jr. as Trustee, Felipe A. Valls, Sr. and
Aminta Valls
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial.
ZONING BOARD: Recommended approval to City Commission on January 11,
2010 by a vote of 5-0. This Zoning Change is recommended for approval
based on the representation of counsel that a covenant will be proffered to the
City Commission to: 1) Allow the same uses as a "T4" Transect in Miami 21 to
allow for the expansion of the restaurant and bakery; 2) Limit height not to
exceed thirty-nine (39) feet; 3) Prevent ingress and egress on Southwest 7th
Street; and 4) Provide a ten (10) foot landscape buffer. See companion File ID
09-013001u.
PURPOSE: This will change the above properties to "C-1" Restricted
Commercial. The applicant will proffer a covenant for these properties.
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Dunn II, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.7 automatically gets passed or do we need a motion for that?
Maria J. Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): You need a motion, and need to read the ordinance.
Commissioner Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Dunn: Second.
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Vice Chair Carollo: I have a motion on PZ.7. Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by
Commissioner Dunn. Any discussion? Hearing no discussion. Anyone from the public wishing
to speak on this item? Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item? Hearing none and
seeing none, the public hearing is now closed; back to the Commission. Any discussion?
Madam City Attorney, please read the ordinance into the record.
Ms. Chiaro: And this is the companion zoning ordinance.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by Deputy City Attorney Maria J. Chiaro.
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: Your ordinance has been passed on first reading, 4-0.
Gilberto Pastoriza: Thank you.
Felipe Valls: Thank you very much. It's a privilege to be here with you. Thank you.
PZ.8 09-00616za RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), DENYING OR GRANTING THE APPEAL BY AMANDA L.
QUIRKE, AFFIRMING OR REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
BOARD, THEREBY UPHOLDING OR REVERSING THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR INTERPRETATION DATED MAY 20, 2009, RELATED TO
THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR ADVERTISING SIGN IN
LUMMUS PARK, REGARDING A PROVISION CONTAINED IN ARTICLE 10
OF ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
09-00616za ZB Reso.pdf
09-00616za ZB 09-14-09 Backup Documentation. pdf
09-00616za ZB Appeal Letter & Supporting Documents.pdf
09-00616za CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
09-00616za CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
09-00616za CC 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 350 NW 2nd Street [Commissioner Richard P.
Dunn II - District 5]
APPELLANT(S): Amanda L. Quirke, Esquire, on behalf of Outlook Media of
South Florida, LLC
FINDING(S):
OFFICE OF ZONING: Recommended denial of the appeal and uphold the
zoning administrator's interpretation.
ZONING BOARD: Denied the appeal on September 14, 2009 by a vote of 4-2.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal may result in the reversal of a zoning
interpretation.
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Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
PZ.9 09-00800x RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WITH ATTACHMENT(S)
DENYING OR GRANTING THE APPEAL, AFFIRMING OR REVERSING THE
DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD AND THEREBY DENYING OR
GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO. 11000,
AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
ARTICLE 9, SECTION 924.11, TO ALLOW EXTENSIONS OF DOCKS AND
PIERS INTO WATERWAYS EXTENDING MORE THAN 35 FEET IN LENGTH,
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3300 SOUTH
MOORINGS WAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA, PURSUANT TO PLANS ON FILE,
CONDITIONS SET FORTH, AND SUBJECT FURTHER TO A TIME
LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12) MONTHS IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT
MUST BE OBTAINED.
09-00800x Analysis.pdf
09-00800x Zoning Map.pdf
09-00800x Aerial Map.pdf
09-00800x Application & Supporting Docs.pdf
09-00800x Plans.pdf
09-00800x ZB Reso.pdf
09-00800x Appeal Letter.pdf
09-00800x CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
09-00800x CC Legislation (Version 4).pdf
09-00800x Exhibit A.pdf
09-00800x CC 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 3300 S Moorings Way [Commissioner Marc David
Sarnoff - District 2]
APPELLANT(S): Bruce G. Hermelee, Esquire, on behalf of The Moorings
Property Owners Association, Inc., Lawrence D. Tornek and Gerald Kelfer,
Residents
APPLICANT(S): Richard A. Brunnell, President, on behalf of SkyScrapper, LLC
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended denial of the appeal and approval
of the original request.
ZONING BOARD: Granted the Special Exception with conditions* on October
19, 2009 by a vote of 9-0.
*See supporting documentation.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal will not allow extensions of docks and
piers with more than 35 feet into waterways.
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
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Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
PZ.10 08-00698ha RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION GRANTING OR
DENYING THE APPEAL FILED BY MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC
SCHOOLS AND AFFIRMING OR REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE
HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, WHICH DENIED A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR
EIGHT (8) BISHOPWOOD TREES AT MIAMI SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
LOCATED AT SOUTHWEST 3RD STREET BETWEEN SOUTHWEST 24TH
AND SOUTHWEST 25TH AVENUES, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AFTER FINDING
THE TREE REMOVAL DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE CRITERIA FOR
TREE REMOVAL SET FORTH ARTICLE 8.1 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
08-00698ha Zoning Map.pdf
08-00698ha Aerial Map.pdf
08-00698ha CC Appeal Letter.pdf
08-00698ha HEPB Reso.pdf
08-00698ha HEPB 01-05-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
08-00698ha Miami -Dade County Landscape Manual.pdf
08-00698ha City of Miami Code of Ordinances Sec. 17-37.pdf
08-00698ha City of Miami Code of Ordinances Sec. 24-49.9.pdf
08-00698ha City of Miami Excerts from Sec. 8.1 of the Zoning Code.pdf
08-00698ha Proc. Fla. State Hort. Soc. 97, 1984.pdf
08-00698ha HEPB Appeal Letter with Plans & Pictures.pdf
08-00698ha Regina Hagger Email #2 Regarding Protest.pdf
08-00698ha Neil D. Kolner Letter.pdf
08-00698ha Regina Hagger Emails #1 Regarding Protest.pdf
08-00698ha Department of Public Works Notice Posted.pdf
08-00698ha Tree Permit Application.pdf
08-00698ha CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
08-00698ha CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
08-00698ha Handed out by Residents.pdf
08-00698ha CC 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 2450 SW 1st Street [Commissioner Frank Carollo -
District 3]
APPELLANT(S)/APPLICANT(S): Luis M. Garcia, Esquire, on behalf of
Miami -Dade County Public Schools and Zyscovich Architects
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: See Historic and Environmental Preservation
Board decision.
HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD: Denied a
motion to approve the appeal of the decision of the Public Works director of a
Tree Removal Permit on January 5, 2010 by a vote of 6-3.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal will allow the removal of eight
Bishopwood trees at Miami Senior High School.
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Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 3 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort and Dunn II
Absent: 2 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff and Suarez
PZ.11 09-00565ha1 RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION DENYING OR
GRANTING THE APPEAL FILED BY PATRA LIU AND AFFIRMING OR
REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL
PRESERVATION BOARD ("HEPB") OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
WHICH DENIED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE
PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION OF 811 NORTHWEST
7TH STREET ROAD, A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE LOCATED IN THE
SPRING GARDEN HISTORIC DISTRICT, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
09-00565ha1 HEPB 11-03-09 Fact Sheet.pdf
09-00565ha1 Appeal Letter.pdf
09-00565ha1 Supplement to Appeal.pdf
09-00565ha1 HEPB Reso.pdf
09-00565ha1 Zoning Map.pdf
09-00565ha1 Aerial Map.pdf
09-00565ha1 Application for Certificate of Appropriateness.pdf
09-00565ha1 Plans.pdf
09-00565ha1 CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
09-00565ha1 CC Legislation (Version 3).pdf
09-00565ha1 CC 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
09-00565ha1-Submittal-Bob de la Fuente.pdf
09-00565ha1-Submittal-Support for Patrica Liu.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 811 NW 7th Street Road [Commissioner Richard P.
Dunn II - District 5]
APPELLANT(S)/APPLICANT(S): Bob de la Fuente, Esquire, on behalf of Patra
Liu, Owner
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: See Historic and Environmental Preservation
Board decision.
HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION BOARD: Denied the
Certificates of Appropriateness on November 3, 2009 by a vote of 4-3.
PURPOSE: The approval of this appeal will allow the partial demolition of the
existing residence and new construction at the above location.
Motion by Commissioner Gort, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.11.
Ellen Uguccioni (Planning Department): Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the
Commission. Ellen Uguccioni, preservation officer. This is an appeal from a decision of the
Historic and Environmental Preservation Board, which denied an application for a certificate of
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appropriateness for the partial demolition and construction of a two-story addition at 811
Northwest Street Road, which is a contributing structure within the Spring Garden Historic
District. This home was built in 1940, and it sits on the Seybold Canal. The rear of the house is
on the Seybold Canal. And over the years, through successive flooding, the applicants brought
to us photographs of the house and the joists underneath of the house were rotting, which caused
the house to settle, which caused additional cracking. And they came to the HEP (Historic and
Environmental Preservation) Board in May of 2009 requesting total demolition of the house with
the thesis that it could not be repaired without essentially rebuilding the entire house. The HEP
Board denied the request for demolition in May by a vote of 7-1. Some months later the
applicant met with the Spring Garden Neighborhood Association. The architect produced
another set of plans in a way in which to try to retain the most significant portion of the house
and still achieve the addition. So what they have accomplished is retaining the front portion of
the house just a little bit beyond the ridgeline, and then from that point forward there is a
two-story addition. So if you're standing in front of the house, you still perceive the residence as
it had been originally and yet, there is an addition behind it. I think the applicant and the
applicant's attorney are going to speak to their conversations with the neighborhood association
and what the applicant, Ms. Liu, is offering for your approval. Thank you, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Is the applicant ready?
Bob De La Fuente: Yes. I apologize.
Vice Chair Carollo: Name and address for the record.
Mr. De La Fuente: Mr. Chair, members of the Commission, Bob De La Fuente, with Tew
Cardenas, 1441 Brickell Avenue. I am here on behalf ofPatra Liu, the homeowner and the
applicant. With me today are the applicant, Patra Liu; Ilia Mosscrop, who is our architect. He
has significant and extensive experience working with historic properties in districts in Miami
and Miami Beach, and you'll hear more from him later. As Ms. Uguccioni said, we are here on
the appeal of a denial by the HEP Board from its November 3, 2009 meeting. This was an
application for the partial demolition and new construction for a home located in Spring Garden
at 811 Northwest 7th Street Road You'll be seeing -- well, you have the packets in front of also,
which has a summary of what's occurred in this matter. This is in Commissioner Dunn's district.
And this appeal's a little bit unusual in several ways and one of them is the reason why I just
came rushing in here. As Ms. Uguccioni mentioned, my client had done everything possible to
get approval from the HEP Board, but she lost by a very narrow 4-3 vote. This was her second
application, as Ms. Uguccioni mentioned. The first was for a total demolition, which still had a
favorable recommendation. She invested in a redesign, a substantial investment in a redesign
with her architect, and filed this application which incorporated an address to comments made
during her first meeting. My client and our architect met with Ms. Uguccioni on numerous
occasions to arrive at design that we are here with before you today. As you know, this received
an extremely favorable recommendation from your professional staff. And at the time of the
hearing in November in front of the Historic Preservation Board, Ms. Liu had the support of the
Spring Garden Civic Association, as well as many of her neighbors. We are submitting a
petition of support. It's Exhibit E of your packet, signed by 17 of the neighbors, as well as letters
from two of her neighbors. One of them directly next door and the other one directly across the
street, Mr. Flavio Carillo, who is here with us today to support her in person; and Megan
Halloran, who's her across -the -street neighbor, who's also submitted a letter, and may be here
as well if her schedule permits. Nevertheless, at that HEP Board meeting she narrowly failed to
get approval with a 4-3. One of the comments that's important to point out was by Mr. Marsden.
He said that this design was a wonderful compromise that met both historic preservation
considerations and new construction considerations. Unfortunately for Ms. Liu, one board
member, who had even supported the complete demolition, was not present at that meeting. That
denial brings us here today. The house that you see today is a modest 1200-square foot home.
Ms. Liu bought the home in 2002 with the intent to live in this home, assess her needs, and
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ultimately renovate to her specifications and her needs. In approximately 2006, the house began
to deteriorate and began to literally fall apart. And as Mr. Mosscrop can explain further, the
nature of this type of deterioration is one that proceeds rapidly once things start to go wrong.
And you'll see some of the photos that Mr. Mosscrop will scroll through, and they're also
contained in your packet. So Ms. Liu is here because she wants to improve her house. And it's
very important for you to know that she's not a house flipper. She's a true Spring Garden
resident who will live in this home when it's complete. Indeed, if she had other intentions, she
would have invested the money to renovate and then flip back in 2005 when the market was
better. But here we are here today even in this real estate market and she's willing to make a
substantial investment to improve this home. You'll see in your packet as Exhibit B the property
appraiser information on this home. There's been $150, 000 drop in market value from 2008 to
2009, but she still wants to move forward because this is where she wants to live. You'll see that
this is a waterfront property. It's on the Seybold Canal. And this application represents a
reasonable investment backed expectation for this property because of its location. So she's
willing to do this. We included in your packet a letter from a structural engineer. It's very clear.
It says this home is in need of complete renovation, including most significantly structural
repair. And Gelwin Associates is the name of the company. In a nutshell, the home is in poor
structural condition as a result of certain conditions beyond Ms. Liu's control. There's a drop in
elevation between the front and rear that results in water flow during storms and standing water
after storms. This has undermined the existing foundations. The photos in the packet show you
the water level. The wood joists need to be replaced. Complete replacement of the floor system
is required. Existing masonry walls must be brought up to current Code. Partial tie beam
replacements are required, which will result in replacement of a good portion of the roof.
Existing footings must be replaced, and repairs are required to existing interior wood frame
load -bearing partitions. All this leads to a conclusion that the 50 percent rule will be exceeded.
This means that in order to do any renovation to make this house habitable and even just to
make the required structural improvements, the entire house must be brought up to current
Code. As Mr. Mosscrop will further explain, this means that all habitable portions of the home
would have to be elevated to meet current flood criteria. And we know this because he and Ms.
Liu have met with your Building Department, who have explained this criteria to them, and we
appreciate the availability and accessibility ofyour Building Department and your Planning
Department in arriving at this design that's before you today. Per the structural engineer's
report, there's no way to do the required work to make this house habitable without elevating all
habitable portions, even if this were to remain a one-story home. So as I mentioned, Mr.
Mosscrop, the architect, will explain the project to you, but during his presentation, I'm asking
that you keep certain things in mind. We have a positive recommendation from your
professional staff. As Ms. Uguccioni mentioned, she -- you know, she has been a recognized
historic preservation expert for approximately 30 years. She is well-known in this field, and
provided you with a professional well -reasoned support. You'll see on page 2 of the packet, the
plans depict a home which is comparable in height and scale, directional emphasis, setbacks
front and side, and shape to its neighboring homes. It also states that there is a clear
derentiation between old and new. The architect and owner have made careful consideration
in relating the new construction to the neighborhood. Most importantly, on page 3 there's a
conclusion that this approach that the architect has taken in this project represents a successful
compromise between the total demolition of the home and an attempt to correct the structural
and building code deficiencies. This proposal meets the intent of the secretary of the interior
standard number 9. Ms. Liu will be preserving the front of the home. You can see in the
rendering that's on the easel, that's what it'll look like when it's done. The front of the home is
what's original today, and she plans to restore. This would preserve the historic streetscape.
However, you should know that this is a very costly proposition for Ms. Liu to do this. The entire
house, as it stands today, is currently below the required flood elevation. That means that the
preserved portion will also continue to be below flood elevation requirements; therefore, that
portion of the home cannot be occupied, per the conclusion ofyour Building Department. This
leaves Ms. Liu with essentially an enormous 260-square foot foyer or an entry hall which she
can't occupy. She can either use it just as an entry hall or for storage, but it can't be a usable
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part of the house. But she's willing to do this and have this enormous entry hall so she can
renovate this home. Now this is the issue that's just been sprung on us now. We kind of got
ambushed by the Spring Garden Civic Association. As I mentioned, they did support her
application at the November hearing. As part of that support, they made their concerns clear.
Their main concern was that this project would not get finished and there would be a partially
completed jobsite left here. So Ms. Liu made an extraordinary and, to our knowledge, an
unprecedented proffer in this type of an application to address this concern. And today, she
would reaffirm her proffer to do this, and that is to establish an escrow account prior to the
issuance of a building permit with sufficient funds to complete the shell of the proposed addition
in order to protect the neighborhood from the possibility of an abandoned construction site.
This is extraordinary. When she told me she'd done this, I couldn't believe it, but in an effort to
be a good neighbor and to address the concerns of the Spring Garden Civic Association, she's
gone to the lengths of offering that. Since in the last several weeks, Mr. Mosscrop had been
trying to get a response from the Association to confirm that their position had remained the
same. It's only now, right before we came in here, that we heard from the Association that they
no longer support this application because -- andl'll let them speak for themselves, but
basically, my understanding's that they don't want to go against a ruling by the Historic and
Environmental Preservation Board. However, that have nothing to do with -- they made an
independent evaluation of whether or not they supported this before. My client met with them,
and she'll explain to you herself the extensive meeting she had onsite with authorized
representatives of this association where they gave her specific input which drove this design,
and she asked for an architect and paid him money to come up with this design thinking that it
was what they wanted. And today they tell us they don't support her anymore. For you to keep
in mind when you review whether or not this is an appropriate application for this site, look at
the setback of this house. This house enjoys a greater setback from the street than most of its
neighbors, minimizing the impact of addition, which will be at the rear of the home and away
from the street. The street itself enjoys a variety of architectural styles and heights of homes.
Indeed, the next -door house has two stories, making the proposed addition an appropriate
addition for this area. There is mature landscaping and mature trees in the front of the house,
which will further buffer the effect of the new addition on the street. That's what we tried to get
the renderer to do, was to show you that with the trees, the second story is minimized. Green
space and pervious area helping address the already big drainage problem on the site, which
you'll see, will be preserved by having a two-story addition rather than a larger one -level
addition in the back. By having just a one -level addition in the back, that would take up most of
the green space and pervious area. And you'll see in your packet that there's a big flood
problem here, and that's one of the things that she wants to avoid. Also important for you to
know is that this proposal is well under the allowable FAR (Floor Area Ratio) for this site, using
only approximately 60 percent of what is allowed under the Code. So Ms. Uguccioni, I believe,
did a good job with explaining to you why it is that she, in her professional opinion, supports this
application. I don't know how far she went into the logic that historic neighborhoods are not
museums. There is a process of discernment where not everything needs to be preserved in its
100 percent original state. Clearly, your professional staffs recommendation saw that this
house is one that's appropriately renovated in this matter. Ms. Liu will also briefly address you,
in addition to Mr. Mosscrop. I understand that there are people who will speak against our
position on this, so I would also reserve time for rebuttal. So at this point, I'll ask Mr. Mosscrop
to walk you through the design. Thank you.
Ilia Mosscrop: Chairman, Commissioners, thank you for your time. My name is Ilija Mosscrop.
I'm the architect, with offices at 940 Lincoln Road, in Miami Beach. And I am doing this
presentation pro bono for my client. We were caught a little off guard, so I am going to just boot
up the computer. Forgive me for this. Can I use the hand-held mike?
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
Mr. Mosscrop: Thank you. While the computer is booting up, let me just talk about the site
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plan. I think, in your packages, if I'm correct, you have some photographs that show the
immediate neighbors along Northwest 7th Street Road surrounding my client's house, and I'll
show you those on the computer. But the basic character of this board shows the existing site
plan showing the existing house. The basic character of the architectural styles of the
neighborhood is very eclectic. There are houses built from 1920 all the way up to, I believe, the
1980s. They range in style and quality and size, some more respectful of their sites than others.
And in my client's case, her house -- ifI can draw your attention to this site plan here. The front
plane of my client's house is set further back from the street than her two neighbors, than most of
the other houses in that neighborhood. The two-story -- to the north of her house is a two-story
house which is about 4,000 square feet, and the front of this house is much closer to the street
than my client's, both stories. So you have a two-story facade here facing the street. So the
notion that the two-story idea of this proposal is out of scale is somewhat misleading. The initial
idea was to demolish the existing house and build a brand-new one. After meeting with the
neighbors, the neighborhood association, we all came to a consensus that we would preserve
half of the existing house that faces Northwest 7th Street Road and build our second -story
addition set way back. So if you look at this plan here, you can see that in the existing condition,
the shaded portion of the house is the portion that we're keeping. We're proposing to preserve
this. This is the portion of the existing house that we're going to remove, and the second floor
addition occurs way back here. So you have the existing house and the restored roof here, the
secondfloor occurs way back here, much further back than this other two-story neighbor. Let
me just see what the status of this -- my computer seems to be having a problem. Okay. Now the
main reason that we can't simply restore the existing house is to do with flood elevation. The
floor level of the existing house is three feet below FEMA (Federal Emergency Management
Agency) -required flood elevation. I met with the building official to try and get a waiver from
the building official so that we could keep the existing house in its current state, or just renovate
it. He will not give us a waiver to do that, which means if we were to restore the existing
structure, we would have to elevate the entire thing by three feet, to begin with. So bearing that
in mind, what we've come to -- the compromise that we have come to, which, again, was received
very well by the neighborhood association, is that this shaded area here is a portion of the
existing floor elevation of the existing house. We cannot raise that. That stays put, which means
that it can't be used for habitable purposes. It can be used either for storage or as an empty
entrance hall. So we end up having a 260-square-foot entrance hall that cannot be lived in. You
then take a flight of steps up. They take you up -- a little over three feet to get to the legal flood
elevation of her first floor. Now bearing that in mind, there is a height limit which we have to
respect. So even with -- even by raising -- by raising this floor -- because my client has to raise
her floor level, this also limits her ceiling heights, which is fine. They're very livable. They're 9
feet. They're not excessive. Now the -- in terms of the massing of this house, let me just bring
your attention to the secondfloor here, okay. This drawing shows the roof the restored roof of
the existing house, and then a portion of aflat roof here, and then the secondfloor steps back
like this. So that's a really big setback from the street. The street begins right here. Here's the
existing two-story house. This is our proposed addition. And what you can see in this photo
rendering is the fact that the existing house here is preserved and there's a very clear distinction
between this and the secondfloor. This is the existing ridgeline of the roof of the existing house,
and that complies with some of the standards of the Historic Preservation -- the Historic
Preservation officer's request that we make a clear delineation. This pushes that second floor
recess way back. So the impact on the street is not as drastic as people seem to think it is. My
client is allowed to build up to 60 percent FAR. The FAR for this site is 60 percent. The
proposed design is only 36 percent. So she's not being greedy. She's not building a McMansion.
Thirty-six percent versus 60, so she's being very modest. And let's see what else. On this board
here -- this, I don't think is in your package. Correct me if I'm -- I don't want to -- okay. I'm
almost done. You'll see, these images give a very clear idea of the neighbor, the existing
two-story neighbor and my client's house here. And then this is the photomontage with the
restored firstfloor. We're going to take off the carport and bring back this nice little entrance
feature, the restored roof line, and then the secondfloor set way back. Look at how close to the
street this secondfloor is. So this clearly is not going to stick out like a sore thumb. This
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building will actually still dominate. I think -- I don't think there's any need really to go through
all of this. I think that concludes the presentation.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Is there a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Commissioner.
Commissioner Dunn: Before that, I would like to hear from Ms. Liu as well as those who are
against, if we may. I'm trying to figure out -- it seems as if -- and I'll let her speak -- but she's
gone through some great lengths to --
Vice Chair Carollo: I'll open up the public hearing --
Commissioner Dunn: But you need a motion.
Vice Chair Carollo: I would prefer to have a motion and a second for discussion. Let them
present as far as the public hearing, come back for the -- to the Commission and we could
discuss, and then you could always pull your motion; you could, you know, vote on it, and --
Commissioner Dunn: It's for clarification purposes. Now, I understand --
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
Commissioner Dunn: -- that there is a -- there's an acceptance of some type of -- if you would
come -- just to get clarification before I make a motion.
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, ma'am.
Ms Uguccioni: I'm sorry, sir? What --
Commissioner Dunn: What was the -- what was your position that you stated earlier?
Ms. Uguccioni: Okay.
Commissioner Dunn: I just want to -- 'cause it seems like there have been some agreement that -
- some type of compromise. Am I correct?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn -- and ifI understand this correctly, and you could
correct me, I think the Planning Board is in favor of --
Commissioner Dunn: The appeal.
Commissioner Gort: The appeal.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the appeal --
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- of the HEP Board. The HEP Board voted against this, andl believe the
Planning Board is in favor of the appeal, so a yes vote will be going against the HEP Board and
granting their appeal. Is that correct?
Ms. Uguccioni: No, sir. Actually, the PAB does not see the HEP Board items. They go directly
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to you. Staff recommended approval of this approach, but this -- the matter before you is the
HEP Board's --
Commissioner Gort: The HEP Board.
Ms. Uguccioni: -- decision, which was very close, 4-3; 4 for the proposal and 3 against.
Vice Chair Carollo: And if we vote yes, that means we're going to overturn the HEP Board's
decision?
Ms. Uguccioni: I believe that's correct.
Unidentified Speaker: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Commissioner Gort:
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. So a yes vote is overturning the HEP Board's decisions and allowing
the homeowners to construct this?
Commissioner Dunn: So just -- once again, I just want to be clear again, Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Uh-huh.
Commissioner Dunn: Is this motion to be made from the standpoint of allowing for discussion or
actually a motion for overturning?
Vice Chair Carollo: Well --
Commissioner Gort: I'll make a motion, if you want me to.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Gort, just --
Commissioner Gort: I'm sorry.
Vice Chair Carollo: A motion is a motion with all its powers; however, I am not going to call
the question. In other words, if you make a motion, someone'll second. It's going to be --
Commissioner Dunn: So moved.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Dunn. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: What's your motion?
Commissioner Dunn: My motion is in the position of the Planning Board to appeal.
Commissioner Gort: You're in favor of the appellant.
Vice Chair Carollo: Of the resolution as so written.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Of the resolution --
Maria," Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): Mr. Chair, procedurally, I need to interrupt you, and
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apologize. We're in the middle of the presentation.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. Their presentation is over.
Ms. Chiaro: I understood that the --
Vice Chair Carollo: It was my understanding that the presentation was over.
Mr. Mosscrop: Yes. I'm -- my portion of it is over.
Commissioner Gort: His part.
Mr. Mosscrop: I don't know if Ms. Liu wants to say anything.
Commissioner Gort: The architect's part.
Vice Chair Carollo: Gotcha. The architect's part, but not --
Mr. Mosscrop: The architect's portion is over.
Vice Chair Carollo: Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, that's -- okay, I misinterpret. When he says the --
that it's --
Mr. Mosscrop: My computer locked.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- over, I thought that the presentation was over.
Commissioner Dunn: Right. That's why I didn't want to just --
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay, okay, okay. I stand corrected. The whole presentation is not over,
just your part --
Commissioner Dunn: Exactly.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the architect's part. Gotcha, gotcha.
Mr. Mosscrop: Correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. I apologize. And yes, please continue. And just for clarification, once
they finish their presentation, I'm going to be bringing it back to the Board for a vote -- or I'm
sorry, back to the Commission for a motion, and then opening it up to public hearing.
Commissioner Dunn: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay? And I'm sorry, it was a misunderstanding on my part. When you
said "it's over, "I thought it was just the whole presentation. Thank you.
Mr. Mosscrop: Okay. Thanks.
Patra Liu: Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission, my name is Patra Liu. I am the
homeowner and the applicant for this project. The house address is 811 Northwest 7th Street
Road, andl am joined by my neighbor, Mr. Juan Flavio Carillo. He lives right next door to me
in the single -story house. And he is here today because he supports my application for this
renovation project, which would include a recessed second story. And he is the one that would
be most impacted given that he is the single -story neighbor right next door to me.
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Juan Flavio Carillo: My name is Juan Flavio Carillo. I live in 807 Northwest 7th Street Road
for the last 32 years. And am a very good friend of her and support her 100 percent.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Ms. Liu: IfI can just give you a little bit of background about how this project has unveiled.
Yes, back in April of last year, I did have an application for a 100 percent replacement of the
home. We did this knowing that, in discussions with the Historic Preservation officer, your staff
this was an acceptable approach by them, and so we proceeded with that project. There was
opposition from the neighborhood association, and they authorized a group to meet with myself
and the architect and to go over their concerns. Now, clearly, they were against the 100 percent
replacement, but the team that came over to my house walked through the house and made
suggestions of what they would support. Number one, they wanted to make sure that I kept the
front facade of the house. Number two, they had no problem with the second story. Actually,
one member of the group that came over was an engineer, a civil engineer, and he even
suggested taking where the roof line broke and then having the recessed second story. Well,
obviously, the first application, it did not pass. And so we again reached out to the
neighborhood association knowing what their main comments were, and we drove a redesign of
the project knowing that that's what they wanted to see. They wanted to see the front part was
stored, and they wanted to see the second story recessed. They had no problem with the second
story. Actually, their representative, Ms. DiCarlo (phonetic), also suggested that, yes, I can
understand why you would want to preserve your back yard. That's why a second story would be
okay. So we went through the redesign process. My architect and met with your professional
staff who, I must say, have been really wonderful throughout this whole process being accessible,
giving us a lot of feedback, and giving us critique as well, so they -- I just want to say that they
have been very accessible throughout this whole project. Well, the redesign led to this. And then
in November of '09 we met again with the Spring Garden Neighborhood Association, and we
presented these slides or these posters to them, and they had no problem with it, at all. The only
thing that they wanted was some assurance that I would be able to complete this project and that
I would not leave an abandoned, you know, half -completed house. So they suggested they
wanted an escrow. You know, it was really unprecedented. And you know, after some
consideration, knowing that that was their only reservation, I agreed to this escrow. And we
went before the HEP Board in November, andl voluntarily proffered thatl would establish this
escrow because this is what the Spring Garden Association wanted as an assurance. For the last
three weeks we've been trying to reach out to the Spring Garden Association through their
designated representative that we were supposed to work things out with. We hadn't heard
anything. We'd been leaving messages, e-mails (electronic). And only today, 10 minutes before
this started, were we -- did we approach them outside and ask well, what's your position now.
So, you know, for three weeks we did not know. And their position has completely changed.
Their position now is that they don't support it when, before the HEP Board, they stood up here
and said that we support this application because Ms. Liu is agreeing to the escrow. So I am
asking this Commission that -- you know, there is a process in place which allows homeowners
like me to appeal the decisions of the HEP Board. I'm doing this because I think this is a great
project, I do want to live in this neighborhood, and that this project has really been driven by the
comments from your professional staff of what they believe is acceptable even in this
historically -designated neighborhood. So I am asking you today to vote in favor of my
application, and thus, it would be overturn the HEP Board's decision. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Mr. De La Fuente: That's it for our presentation. I just reserve time for rebuttal.
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Vice Chair Carollo: So the whole presentation is over?
Mr. De La Fuentes Yes. We are done with our presentation. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. With that said, is there a motion?
Commissioner Gort: It's a public hearing.
Unidentified Speaker: No. A vote.
Vice Chair Carollo: No. I want to take a motion first, have a second, bring it to a public
hearing, and then bring it back to us for discussion. If you don't agree then, just withdraw the
motion or, you know, we could vote or discuss it further, but want to get a motion. Is there a
motion?
Commissioner Dunn: Motion. Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: It's going to die then.
Commissioner Gort: I'll make a motion in favor of the appellant.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah.
Commissioner Gort: Move it.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Commissioner Gort. Is there a second? Is there a
second? It's going to die for lack of --
Commissioner Suarez: I'll second it for discussion.
Vice Chair Carollo: For discussion purposes. Anyone from the public wishing to speak on this
matter?
Ms. Chiaro: And this is a motion to grant the appeal, Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: The maker of the motion -- yes.
Ms. Chiaro: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone from the public wishing to speak? Please come, ma'am, and state -
Eileen Broton: We have not been --
Vice Chair Carollo: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Ms. Broton: -- sworn in.
Vice Chair Carollo: Madam City Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: Is there anyone else in the chambers that will be speaking on any of the P&Z
(Planning & Zoning) items on the agenda? If you are, please stand and raise your right hand. If
you -- okay, stand and raise your right hand.
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testimony on zoning issues.
Ms. Thompson: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Madam City Clerk. And your name and address for the record,
ma'am, please.
Ms. Broton: My name is Eileen Marcial Broton, 951 Northwest 10th Court. I'm president of the
Spring Garden Civic Association. And our attorney has been called away on emer -- for a family
emergencies [sic], and we've been unable to -- so I'm going to just do the best I can and hope
that we have as much time as they had. I don't know how else to say it. I do want to tell you that
we find it unacceptable for a decision by the experts who donate their time to serve on the
Historic and Environmental Protection [sic] Board be overturned. I can also tell you that when
this first came up for demolition, your professional staff voted for it, and there wasn't -- and it
was overwhelmingly -- the decision was not accepted, that it didn't even meet all of the criteria.
There wasn't even an engineering report to prove that a demolition was necessary. It came in
the day of that hearing. And the neighborhood did not have a similar experience where a
professional staff was available and eager to work with us. I can also tell you that the history of
the house is very, very important. The original person who owned it and built it was a
gentleman, Joseph Leo Di Jordan (phonetic). He lived in the house with his wife in Virginia --
from Virginia. He was an electrician. He lived in -- he built it in 1940. He lived there for 27
years. He was an inventor, and he developed this really cool motorized garage door. This adds
historical significance to the structure. After that, we had -- in -- the 1930s, there was a woman
by the name of Alicia Pardo. She introduced the Rumba to Europe. She danced -- she -- she
danced even before Hitler. She is -- she was world-renowned. She had an incredible write-up at
her -- during her death at her -- for her death in the New York Times. Now have two people with
historical significance who lived in the house.
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am, your two minutes are up. Is there someone else from your
organization that will allow you an additional two minutes or their time? Would someone from
your -- is there other people here that will allow you --?
Commissioner Gort: Flowers will allow it.
Vice Chair Carollo: Flowers will allow it.
Commissioner Gort: Go ahead.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is that okay, Mr. Flowers?
Charles Flowers: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. You have an additional two minutes, ma'am.
Ms. Broton: We feel that by overturning a decision by the HEP Board that you are setting an
interesting view for all of us to see that our neighborhoods are not being supported and that our
historic preservation is not being supported. I believe that it's just inconscionable [sic] that you
would not listen to what other people had to say. I will also go on record to say that we did not
oppose the structure, but I will tell you that we said that it's going to be up to the Historic and
Environmental Protection [sic] Board. We thought that it was too big; it was out of scale and
out of character, which is the criteria [sic] for historic preservation. But we said, you know, if
you're willing to work with us so we don't have an empty lot, then we're going to let the board
make their decision, and they made their decision. Andl really think that it's just unacceptable
to go against it. I would also tell you that this little neighborhood will have two walking tours in
our neighborhood during Dade Heritage Days. This is an important historic neighborhood.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, at some point, when there's public discussion, I would like
to ask some questions too.
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure. Did you want to ask her something?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. May I?
Vice Chair Carollo: Ma'am? Go ahead, Mr. Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. Thank you --
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: -- Mr. Chair. I'm just a little bit confused from the standpoint of the lines
of communication. Ms. Liu is saying that someone represented or misrepresented, I don't know
which one it is, the Spring Garden Association and led her to believe that if she made certain
adjustments that it would be acceptable, so I just -- I need some clarification with that, please.
Ms. Broton: It is my understanding -- I'm not very talented in that particular area. There may
have been other people who were involved in it. I think that if people had understood maybe
even the 60 percent plans and could have seen something -- I didn't see it till the final plans were
completed, and then several -- Ernie Martin, a lot of us looked and we went like, whoa, that's a
McMansion on the back of a little teeny house. These are all little teeny-weeny houses. So I
don't think that we had as much input all along the way that -- you know, there's different
percent drawings, I would suppose. But the size and the scale, it's just -- it's a little bit -- it's just
out of character with that particular neighborhood.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Anyone else -- or do you have any follow-up questions,
Commissioner Dunn?
Commissioner Dunn: I'm sorry; I didn't hear you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you have any follow-up questions for her or --?
Commissioner Dunn: Yeah. I'm still not -- who represented or misrepre --? Can you tell us,
ma'am, who, so -- just so I -- for the record?
Ms. Liu: At the very beginning of this project, I spoke to Mrs. Broton, and she told me that she
was designating three people as representatives to meet with me. One gentleman's name was
Chris Vane (phonetic). He was the vice president of the board; Ms. Joya DeCarlo (phonetic),
who also acts as an attorney for the Association and -- excuse me, but there's a third gentleman
who was the structural engineer who lived in the neighborhood, so they specifically wanted him
to come to my house. Those were the three people that did the tour of the house that I got input
from. This was in April of '09. In November of '09, right before the HEP Board meeting, we sat
in the living room of -- andl apologize; I don't know the name of the couple. But we sat in the
living room of this house. Mr. Mosscrop had these designs. I sat next to Mrs. Broton, and she
says, "Looks fine to me. The only concern I have is, you know, are you going to put an escrow or
not?" She mentioned Mr. Ernie Martin. He was sitting next to me on my right. He actually had
very high praise for the design of this house. This all happened in a living room conversation in
November, and when we left that meeting, the only issue on the table was the escrow. They
actually had very nice things to say about the billboard drawings.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Hello, Ms. Broton. I just want to -- I've been loose with this andl haven't
even mentioned it before, but I just don't want any issues that -- you know, that's possible. In
answering the Commissioner's question, if you could address me --
Ms. Broton: Yeah, you're right.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- instead of one another or so forth, which you haven't?
Ms. Liu: I'm sorry, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Broton: Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: But I just want, you know --
Ms. Broton: Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- use precaution.
Ms. Broton: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Ms. Broton, thank you. Go ahead.
Ms. Broton: We also have somebody else who -- other people who were there at the meeting.
Andl do want to clam that Ernie Martin said that is big. That's too big. A lot of people said
that is too big. But when you look at the drawings at that percent of the completed drawings, I
think that hadl seen it earlier -- if everybody had seen those drawings much earlier in the
design, then we probably would have said something at the time, but to show me your drawing
when you're ready to go -- Andl know that they had presented it to staff at the City, and they
may not have been as sensitive to the issue. These are little cupcake houses, we call them. These
are --
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Ms. Broton: -- little teeny houses all along the row, representing the 1940 working-class people.
So I think that you'll hear from other people who were at that meeting as well. Does that answer
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Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner.
Commissioner Dunn: Are they here?
Ms. Broton: Yes.
Commissioner Dunn: I would like to hear from them. Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure. Name and address for the record, please.
Tamme Flood: Hi. How are you? My name is Tamme Flood. I live at 928 Northwest 9th
Court. I've lived in Spring Garden since 1999. The way I describe Spring Garden to people that
are looking for the neighborhood -- because most people don't know where it is -- is when you
drive east on 836 and you pass Jackson, you see a huge swath of green space along the north
bank of the river. This neighborhood is so incredibly special. There are very few historic houses
left in our city. They are being bulldozed to the ground every day in East Little Havana. If any
ofyou drive through there, you'll see empty lots through the entire city. It's ridiculous. When
Patra -- the first knew about this situation -- and she's a neighbor. You know, we all try to get
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along. But when you move into a historic district, you know that you are not going to be allowed
to bulldoze a house to the ground. That is just -- sorry, that's part of the deal. You deal with
cracked concrete. You deal with floors that are sagging. You deal with flooding issues. I had a
question on the flooding. If she's had flooding since 2002, it's 2010. As a homeowner, would
you allow flooding to destroy your home over the course of eight years? I don't think so. We've
all dealt with the same issues that Patra has dealt with. When she mentions these meetings, I
was at the meeting in November, andl know for a fact -- and Eileen will back me up -- I said the
word "McMansion." It is a little tiny house. She's talking about -- first of all, she was talking
about bulldozing it to the ground, which is sacrilege in our neighborhood. Then she wants to cut
the house horizontally and build a huge two-story on the back. There are about -- I think it's five
or six little houses. Yes, there's one on the left, which is -- on her left -- on the left of her house,
which is a two-story, but on the right there are little tiny houses all the way down the street. We
have one neighbor -- I don't know how much time I have -- the same situation happened on 9th
Court. Ava Barnes, which you probably know -- she was on the Historic Board. She wanted to
add onto her house. She wanted to live in the house till she died. She took the same size house
and she built back. She built -- she doubled the space of her house -- when you look at the --
from -- at the house from the front, there is no difference than when it was built in the '20s. You
would never know that she has doubled the space of that house. That is what we deal with. We
are charged with preserving the historic integrity of our neighborhood. Andl think Spring
Garden has done a really good job and the HEP Board has done a really good job, and for you
to overturn, you know, a HEP Board decision, to me -- I think you should defer this so that more
people can be here because it was called at 2 o'clock, which is very hard for people to get here.
She has a -- I'm sorry; I'm just trying to catch -- get more things in. She has 17 signatures.
There are 200 people that live in our neighborhood. I don't think she has a majority, and it was
not unanimous. Andl think Patra would -- if she will admit it, she will agree that was -- in
November, it's on the record that I went against this project. I think she should build backwards.
She should -- the project should not be so huge. And thank you very much.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else from the public wishing to address us?
Anyone else from the public wishing to speak on this item? Is there anyone else from the public
wishing to speak on this item? Hearing none, seeing none, the public hearing is closed.
Mr. De La Fuente: Mr. Chair, just in rebuttal. I did ask for rebuttal just to briefly rebut a
couple of things that were said.
Vice Chair Carollo: It's coming back to the Commission. Commissioners, do you have any
discussion?
Commissioner Dunn: I know what the motion was. I would -- I don't if -- I would like to actually
vote to deny it now. I don't know if we're able to do that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Give us a second, then, the applicant to rebut.
Mr. De La Fuente: Yes. Just to briefly address a couple of the points that were raised by Ms.
Broton and Ms. Flood. There is a process that Ms. Liu scrupulously followed here. There's a
Spring Garden Civic Association with designated representatives and that's fair for her to have
to deal with them, but it is unfair to expect her to be able to pickup on an off-the-cuff comment
by Ms. Flood at a meeting where she was present but not a designated representative of the
Spring Garden Association; just to flippantly say now that she did say it was a McMansion, but
then for Ms. Liu to leave that meeting thinking that she had a deal with the Spring Garden Civic
Association because she did what she was supposed to do with her designated representatives.
From April to November, she went through the right process and came up with this design that
has been recommended for approval by your professional staff. And by the way, Mr. Mosscrop
is also a recognized historic preservation expert. This is a design that was arrived at very
carefully and thoughtfully, and she came up with an idea to address their concern, which was
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this escrow agreement. And when she left, that's what she thought the rules were and that's what
she relied upon. She incurred a lot of expenses to come up with this, and it's unfair for her now
to have to deal with an objection made by a member of the Association but not a designated
representative. Also, to address one ofMs. Flood's comments about building back. It's
interesting because she started out by saying you see a ribbon of green space in back of these
houses. Well, that's exactly what Ms. Liu is trying to preserve in the back of her house by
building a one-story addition that would extend all the way back, that would eliminate the green
space that's left in back ofMs. Liu's house as well as add to the existing flood problem. So with
that in mind, we would ask that you grant our appeal and reverse the decision of the HEP Board.
Thank you very much.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Coming back to the Commission. Commissioner Dunn, you're
recognized.
Commissioner Dunn: Yes. I do want to say thatl have heard both of the sides. This is really
new to me. Andl always tend to respect the overwhelming view of the said communities. I know
this is a very beautiful area, Spring Gardens [sic]. It's one of our last bastions, probably our
only bastion of pristine historic preservation in District 5. And even though I can appreciate the
efforts ofMs. Liu, I'm going to side with the HEP Board and deny.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. There is a motion and there is a second. Any discussion?
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, ifI may?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I just want to kind of make a general comment. I agree with
Commissioner Dunn in terms of respecting what the homeowners and the area residents would
like and how they would like to see their neighborhoods grow and develop and -- or remain in
the state that they're in. I just -- you know, I need -- I feel like I need to address certain
comments that were made, which is that, you know, the HEP Board -- the reason why we have
historically preserved properties is so that they can go through this process. So, in my opinion,
the process has worked. You know, otherwise, you -- we would not even be here for this kind of
a development. So, you know -- and l just want to add to that that in terms of the HEP Board
vote, it was a 4-3 vote, which indicates to me -- it was a 4-3 vote. The HEP --
Commissioner Gort: Yeah.
Commissioner Suarez: -- Board's vote was a 4-3 vote, which indicates to me that reasonable
men can differ, and reasonable men oftentimes do der on very, you know, important questions.
And the reason why this process is -- there's a HEP Board and the reason why there's a City
Commission is so that we are the ultimate arbiters of whatever the discussion is or the dispute.
Even though the HEP Board is an advisory board, they advise us, and they take votes and they
take positions and they make recommendations, ultimately we make the decision. And l just
want to clarify that, because I think sometimes people come here with the opinion that, you
know, just because a lower board said 'X " that means that we have to say 'X " and that's not
necessarily always the case. I think reasonable men can der. It doesn't mean that they're
acting in bad faith or that we're acting in bad faith or anything of the sort. But I just wanted to
put that on the record because -- you know, I think there will be times -- I think we have
generally, as a Commission, in the short time I've been here, have been in agreement with all of
the lower boards and their recommendations, but every once in a while we do disagree, and we
have -- you know, we have the right to do that and we can disagree, and it's no less -- you know,
it has no less weight. In fact, it has more weight 'cause we're the elected officials. So I just
wanted to put that on the record.
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Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: As the maker of the motion -- I don't know how many of you all lived there
in 1960 and how many of you remember the Emersons that lived there and they went to high
school with me andl used to go there. Flower [sic], you're probably the only one that were
there at that time. And (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- it was a beautiful neighborhood. But if you look
at some of the pictures, some of the properties that you see here, they're deteriorating. Andl
understand you want to maintain your historical site, andl agree with it, but at the same time, I
think you're going to have to make some improvement. And the people are willing to work and
work with you all and work with the Planning Department, come up with something that will
maintain and will enhance the historical site that I'm in favor of it and that's why I made the
motion for it.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: I'm going to withdraw my second on the basis of the district
Commissioner's recognition of his position on the issue, but I would suggest, just based on some
of the dialogue that has transpired here today, my recommendation will be a deferral. And the
reason why is because I think we have to balance the fact that, you know, we don't want these
houses to go into such disrepair that they become a hazard, whether they become a physical
hazard for the people living in it or they just remain in a state of disrepair because it's not
economically feasible for people to restore it. So I would recommend a deferral so that --
obviously, there was some sort of a disagreement as to --
Commissioner Gort: I'll remove my motion. Motion for a referral [sic].
Commissioner Suarez: Motion for a deferral.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. So the seconder withdraw his second and so did the maker of the
motion. And now Commissioner Gort proffered a motion to defer.
Commissioner Gort: To defer.
Vice Chair Carollo: And it was seconded by Commissioner Suarez?
Commissioner Dunn: Reversed, reversed.
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Whatever.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Anido.
Mr. Anido: Mr. Chairman, ifI may suggest that if it's going to be deferred, it be deferred to a
date certain.
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you know what date certain you would like or should we continue it to
the next PZ --?
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Would a month be sufficient time, the next PZ agenda?
Mr. Anido: The next PZ agenda is --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Anido, I'm sorry. Mr. Anido --
Mr. Anido: I'm sorry.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- could you address --
Mr. Anido: I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the Chair?
Mr. Anido: Through the Chair, the next PZ agenda is quite, quite heavy, so it may be better to
do it the -- after that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn, I will yield to you.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chair, I would like -- and I've seen this done before -- for both sides
to see if they can try again to work together.
Vice Chair Carollo: Of course.
Commissioner Dunn: Because it looks like we're not too far apart, and some effort has been
made on the part of both.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly. But my question is, when would you like to see it come back to the
Commission?
Commissioner Dunn: Whenever there's sufficient -- what is sufficient time that -- I guess --
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. So where -- in the April PZ meeting?
Ms. Thompson: April 22.
Vice Chair Carollo: April --
Ms. Thompson: Twenty-second.
Vice Chair Carollo: April 22? Okay, so I hear there's some -- motion to defer until April 22. Is
that correct, the maker of the motion?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Dunn: Yeah, I'll accept that.
Vice Chair Carollo: And the seconder?
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. Any further discussion? Commissioner Gort.
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Commissioner Gort: I'd like the -- for the neighbors to understand, look at the picture, look at
some of the properties how they're deteriorating, the fences that they have. And when you have
someone who's willing to come in, maintain the green area, improve the area, you should work
with those people. I mean, don't just say no. Andl think that'll -- this will be an improvement to
that area. You want to maintain it because these houses have been built there for a long time.
Their plumbing, the electrical, the concrete, the whole work is going down, and pretty soon it's
going to become a slump if we don't do something for it. So in getting together, please have all
this stuff together. Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: I agree with Commissioner Gort, andl ask that, you know, both parties do
work together and see if we could come to some compromise. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, I know I've been back and forth with this, but would -- may
I indulge the possibility -- what's the possibility of us maybe bringing it back a little sooner,
maybe in the month of March? Is that possible?
Mr. Anido: Sure, we can do so.
Commissioner Dunn: Is that --?
Mr. Anido: Again, it's a full agenda, but --
Vice Chair Carollo: I will yield to the City Clerk. What other dates? What are the other dates?
Ms. Thompson: The months that you have -- I'm sorry -- the dates that are available in March:
March 11 is your first meeting of the month. March 25 is the second meeting of the month.
Commissioner Dunn: That would be -- the 25th maybe?
Vice Chair Carollo: The 25th. That's the one that Mr. Anido is saying that is -- it's --
Commissioner Dunn: It's full?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. But I don't want to bring it -- I don't -- I would prefer not to bring a
PZ item back on a regular Commission meeting.
Commissioner Dunn: Okay, okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: So, if possible, either on the 25th or in April, the 22nd. And right now, the
motion on the floor is for April 22. Is that --?
Commissioner Dunn: You said either the --?
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, we could either bring it back -- and again, the maker has to accept.
But we could either bring it back for March 25 or April 22. And the moiton right now is a
deferral to April 22.
Commissioner Dunn: April 22. Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: If you're okay with --
Commissioner Gort: My suggestion is if they can get together and come up with a plan before,
we're welcomed to come on the 25th. Maybe they can get together right afterwards and come up
with a plan.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Should we then make it for March 25? And if not, we just defer it again.
Mr. De La Fuente: Mr. Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Would the maker of the motion --?
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay, so it's going to be --
Commissioner Dunn: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- a deferral to March 25. Does the seconder --?
Commissioner Dunn: Thank you.
Commissioner Suarez: Yes, as long as the parties are okay with it. Yes.
Mr. De La Fuente: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Motion passes unanimously.
Mr. De La Fuente: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Grace Solares: Mr. Chair, it's just a point of information on this issue, 'cause I'm totally
confused.
Vice Chair Carollo: Was it -- was this on --
Ms. Solares: -- has to do --
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the item that just passed?
Ms. Solares: It's on the item, yes. Specifically on this item.
Vice Chair Carollo: It's going to be deferred. It will be deferred.
Ms. Solares: Okay, so I'll ask for the information at the next hearing?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. It'll be deferred.
Ms. Solares: Okay, 'cause I think you recently passed an ordinance --
Ms. Thompson: I'm sorry. Chair, we're having a discussion and the speaker does need to
identf herself for the record. I'm sorry.
Ms. Solares: Grace Solares 60 Southwest 30th Road.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. But at the present time, unless it's on --
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Ms. Solares: I understand.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the item that we're speaking, I really don't -- do not want to address the
audience. Thank you.
PZ.12 08-00680Iu ORDINANCE Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, WITH
ATTACHMENT(S), AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10544, AS AMENDED, THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PURSUANT TO SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT
PROCEDURES, SUBJECT TO § 163.3187, FLORIDA STATUTES, BY
CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF REAL PROPERTY
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1421 NORTHWEST 61ST STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, FROM PARKS AND RECREATION TO MEDIUM DENSITY
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING
TRANSMITTALS TO AFFECTED AGENCIES; CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-006801u Analysis.pdf
08-006801u Land Use Map.pdf
08-006801u & 08-00680zc Aerial Map.pdf
08-006801u School Board Concurrency.pdf
08-006801u PAB Reso.pdf
08-006801u CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
08-006801u & 08-00680zc Exhibit A.pdf
08-006801u CC SR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 1421 NW 61st Street [Commissioner Richard P.
Dunn II - District 5]
APPLICANT(S): Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager, on behalf of City of Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD: Recommended denial to City Commission on
September 16, 2009 by a vote of 7-0. See companion File ID 08-00680zc.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to Medium Density Multifamily
Residential.
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Vice Chair Carollo: PZ.12, last item on the agenda. Well, PZ.12 and 13, companion items.
PZ.12.
Roberto E. Lavernia (Chief of Land Development, Planning Department): Should I present both
items at the same time, 12 and 13? It's land -use and zoning change again.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Sure, present them both at the same time.
Maria 1 Chiaro (Deputy City Attorney): You can -- Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm sorry?
Ms. Chiaro: You may hear both items at the same time and have public comment on both items
at the same time.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thankyou, ma'am. I gave him the okay.
Mr. Lavernia: PZ.12 is the request of change the future land -use map of the Comprehensive
Plan from medium -density res -- from parks and recreation to medium -density residential.
Planning Department recommend for approval. The Planning Board recommend denial to City
Commission on September 16. PZ.13 was the request of change the future -- the zoning atlas of
Ordinance 11000. The Planning Department recommend approval. The Zoning Board
recommend denial. Thankyou.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Carrfour, I think, was supposed to be here.
Mr. Lavernia: Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Lavernia: The Zoning Board also in September 16 recommended to the City Commission to
consider increasing the size of the existing Park [sic] and Recreation zoning in this area and
direct the Planning Department to reexamine the existing R-3 on this block and surrounding
block by a vote of 7-0, so it was also a recommendation of the Zoning Board.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. It was my understanding Carrfour was going to present this.
Commissioner Gort: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, I'm going to ask that this item -- both of these items be
deferred. I know I've been the "defer" Commissioner today --
Vice Chair Carollo: That's fine.
Commissioner Dunn: -- but for the purpose of having an opportunity to hear adequate
arguments on both sides at the same time, we're tempted to do that, but there was a portion of
the development team that was not present. And l just want to be clear before I make a decision.
I have no problem making the decision, but I believe that there are just some small discrepancies
that might be -- I need some clarification.
Vice Chair Carollo: There is a motion by Commissioner Dunn. Is there a second?
Commissioner Suarez: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconded by Commissioner Suarez. Any discussion? Hearing none --
before taking a vote on the deferral, do I need to open up the public hearing, Madam City Clerk?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): No, sir, because you're not going to discuss anything. We
just need to know a date. That's all.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, ma'am. Defer it to --
Bill Anido (Assistant City Manager & Interim Public Works Director): Mr. Chairman, to a --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. Mr. Anido.
Mr. Anido: -- date certain?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Which date would you like, Commissioner Dunn, the maker of the motion?
Commissioner Dunn: Well, I mean, was the March 25 or the --? I mean, I don't want to
overload it too much.
Vice Chair Carollo: I think it was either March 25 or April 22.
Commissioner Dunn: Let's bring it back March 25.
Vice Chair Carollo: March 25?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: So your motion is a deferral for March 25?
Commissioner Dunn: Yes, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Seconder agree?
Estrella Sibila: I'm sorry.
Commissioner Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Sibila: Could there be a time certain set because we've had the people from the
neighborhoods come out on several occasions, and I'm sure they'd like to be able to have a time
certain as well.
Vice Chair Carollo: I'm not going to set a time certain. If the Chairman at that time wishes, he
could set it. I'm not going to set it.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me.
Vice Chair Carollo: So at that time, if the Chairman would want, you know, it'll be his purview
to set a time certain or not.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Madam City Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: May I have a name, please?
Ms. Sibila: I'm sorry. Estrella Sibila, with law offices at 2525 Ponce de Leon Boulevard. Thank
you.
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Vice Chair Carollo: With that said, any further discussion from the Commissioners?
Commissioner Dunn: No, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right to say "no." Motion passes
unanimously. And before I adjourn, I just want to tell my fellow Commissioners, my fellow
colleagues that I appreciate the help. And you know, chairing here -- well, I've only been here
three months. It's not easy. I appreciate all the help, and being able to work up here as a team,
so I truly thank all of you.
Commissioner Dunn: And Mr. Chairman, I just want to --
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: -- say that you did a very good job, and certainly, it was very orderly.
Vice Chair Carollo: Don't BS me.
Commissioner Dunn: It was.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyways, again, thank you all. I truly appreciate it. And with that said,
meeting adjourned. Thank you.
PZ.13 08-00680zc ORDINANCE Second Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION WITH
ATTACHMENT(S) AMENDING PAGE NO. 12, OF THE ZONING ATLAS OF
ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM PR
PARKS AND RECREATION TO SD-1.1 KINGS HEIGHTS ORCHARD VILLA
SPECIAL DISTRICT, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY
1421 NORTHWEST 61ST STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA; MAKING FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
08-00680zc Analyisis.pdf
08-00680zc Zoning Map.pdf
08-006801u & 08-00680zc Aerial Map.pdf
08-00680zc PAB Resos.pdf
08-00680zc CC Legislation (Version 2).pdf
08-006801u & 08-00680zc Exhibit A.pdf
08-00680zc CC SR 02-25-10 Fact Sheet.pdf
LOCATION: Approximately 1421 NW 61st Street [Commissioner Richard P.
Dunn II - District 5]
APPLICANT(S): Carlos A. Migoya, City Manager, on behalf of the City of Miami
FINDING(S):
PLANNING DEPARTMENT: Recommended approval.
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PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD (PAB): Recommended denial to City
Commission on September 16, 2009 by a vote of 7-0. Also on September 16,
2009, the PAB recommended to the City Commission to consider increasing the
size of the existing "Parks and Recreation" zoning in this area and direct the
Planning Department to re-examine the existing "R-3" zoning on this block and
surrounding blocks, by a vote of 7-0. See companion File ID 08-006801u.
PURPOSE: This will change the above property to SD-1.1 King Heights
Orchard Villa Special District.
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, that this matter be
CONTINUED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Note for the Record: For minutes related to PZ.13, see PZ.12.
END OF PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
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MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS
CITYWIDE
HONORABLE MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO
M.1 09-01453a DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION REGARDING THE STATUS UPDATE ON THE PENSION
AND UNION NEGOTIATIONS.
09-01453 Discussion Page.pdf
DISCUSSED
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, you could be recognized for your items, just be cognizant of the
fact that you have quite a few items and we have our interpreter that leaves at 12, so I don't
know if you want me to do the PH (Public Hearing) items first, and then come to you or do you
want to --?
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Yeah. I think, Mr. Chairman, that is correct, that you can do the PH
items and I'll be here.
Vice Chair Carollo: Perfect. I'll do the PH items; there's only three, and then we'll go to your --
we'll move up your items. Thank you.
[Later...]
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Mr. Chairman, we -- as promised, we are today giving you and the
members of the Commission an update on the pension and union negotiations. It is probably the
breaking point for the City ofMiami, the issue of pensions and union negotiations. We are about
to, as you all were briefed, put a team together to start the unions' negotiations contracts. We
need to give them a proposal by April, so we still have time to do it. However, on the pensions,
we have here the City actuarial [sic] and if you allow, Mr. Chairman, I would like to have the
actuarial [sic] to give you an overview, you know, the history and the projections that we have in
terms of the pensions. Andl will tell you that the Manager and myself met with all the unions'
leaders and they are ready to go to work because they understand the sense of urgency and the
gravity of the pension issue. So, if the Chair allows to have the report.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes. And thank you for that, Mr. Mayor. As you know, any information on
the pensions and so forth is welcome. I think this Commission has established our urgency and
are wanting to get involved already, so any information is welcome andl thank you for bringing
this up. And yes, sir, you're recognized for the record.
Michael Tierney: Good morning.
Commissioner Dunn: Good morning.
Vice Chair Carollo: Good morning.
Mr. Tierney: My name is Michael Tierney. For people that want to be polite, they'll call me
Mike. I am the City actuary. I do not work for the pension plans. I do not do the actuarial
evaluations. I'm hired by the City to evaluate those evaluations, provide recommendations about
financing options and possible plan changes for union negotiations. So that's my job andl work
for you. The news I have today or the progress report is, as you might guess, not particularly
favorable, but it is important to understand where we are and where we are headed financially
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on the pension plan and their costs. These numbers are as of the first of the fiscal year,
10/1/2009. The plan assets at market value were a little under a billion dollars. This is for
FIPO (Firefighters Police), and we'll cover GESE (General Employees Sanitations Employees)
next. The plan assets at actuarial measurement, which is a method that does not immediately
recognize all the actuarial losses -- oh, great. The plan assets of actuarial do not recognize all
the current losses. The purpose of the actuarial methodology is to delay some of the asset loss
recognition in hopes that the market will recover and you will never have to recognize those
losses. However, in order to be able to recoup that and not have that additional loss recognized
over time, you'll have to make more than the assumed rate of investment return. It's not just
more than zero. It has to be more than the assumed return. In FIPO, it's seven and
three-quarters percent net of investment expenses. The actuarial liabilities -- this is on a GASB
(General Accounting Standard Board)-25 measurement basis -- are a little under 1.54 billion.
So on a market basis, we have an unfunded of about 570 million. Now, on an actuarial basis, for
funding the contributions that we're paying, that's based on unfunded liability of about 375
million. So the last couple hundred million, 175 million haven't been plugged into the
contribution requirements yet and we hope that they won't if we can somehow have returns
greater than seven and three-quarters. But inevitably, we will if we don't. So -- and by the way,
I assume that you can ask questions any time you want. I know you do it anyway, but I'm now
encouraging you. The -- so this is the financial status of FIPO. In terms of GESE, it's
similar -type numbers. The market values are less than the actuarial or smooth value, the phased
recognition value. The actual accrued liabilities are about .86 billion, and the unfunded
liabilities on a GASB-25 basis are about 323 million, and they would be about 215 million on a
current contribution basis, so that difference, about 108 million is what has not been recognized
in the contribution requirements yet. And we hope not to, but it inevitably will if we don't make
more than the assumption. In terms of FIPO, here's where we've been. This is the historical
contribution chart. I'm not sure if any of you were here the last time we showed this chart.
We've just updated it for the last couple of years. And it shows, of course, the big increase in the
last year basically due to the market meltdown.
Vice Chair Carollo: And excuse me, sir. Your last name?
Mr. Tierney: Tierney.
Vice Chair Carollo: Tierney. Mr. Tierney, I see in 2001 what appears to me a zero amount. In
2001, was there any monies placed by the City for the retirement fund or our retirement fund or -
-? What was the allocation from the City in 2001 for pensions?
Mr. Tierney: Well, interpolating from that chart, I think it was just a couple of million dollars.
It's not zero, but it's --from a symbolic basis, it's close to zero.
Vice Chair Carollo: So --
Mr. Tierney: The exact number, I actually don't -- I can look up, but --
Vice Chair Carollo: So hardly anything?
Mr. Tierney: Hardly anything.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. So, I mean, don't you think that at that time that the City should have
put some of the monies into a reserve account because there's good years and bad years?
Mr. Tierney: Of course I do.
Vice Chair Carollo: Okay, and by the way, I'm sorry; this is the first time that I see any of this.
Remember, you asked as far as questions, you know, sometimes -- what's that old saying? Be
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careful what you wish for 'cause you just may get it. Now this is the first time that I see any of
this so, in all fairness, I'm sure that in the future, you know, if possible, through the Manager,
maybe we could get together and go over some of these numbers, you know, into a little bit more
detail. But, yeah, I mean this chart, it's staggering, but at the same time, I mean, let's see what
happens. In the good years -- andl mean good years where the City really didn't have to pay all
that much because of the market and so forth. I mean, shouldn't we have put some into the
reserves?
Larry Spring (Chief Financial Officer): Mr. Chair? Can I address that question, Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure.
Mr. Spring: Again, Larry Spring, chief financial officer. You're absolutely right. And if you go
back to the City's fund balance history, you'll see in that year there was a contribution that made
the general fund fund balance go up. Andl think we're around 144 million around that
timeframe. So while there was no pension stabilization, if you will, contribution, there was a
contribution made or a surplus made to the City's overall general fund balance in those years.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, can -- may I be recognized?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. Yeah, that doesn't necessarily make me feel better. I thought
that the reason why the contribution was so low in 2000 and 2001 was because we were getting
a healthy rate of return on our investments. Is that correct or is that incorrect? In other words,
we -- our contribution offsets the rate of return. That's the way I understand it. In other words,
since we're getting such a poor rate of return right now, we have to make a large contribution.
If we were getting a good rate of return in those years, the market is the one that's making the
contribution, not the City. So the pension was being funded in those years, because I don't want
to make -- leave the impression out there that the City was deficient in any way in funding the
pension in those years.
Mr. Tierney: I don't think so. In fact, the chart in the actuarial report shows for 2001 a
contribution of about 5.5 million, so I guess that little dot there, at least in terms of what the City
paid -- this may be the requirement in the chart. The City still paid 5.4 million, historically, in
that year so --
Vice Chair Carollo: Well, here's the thing.
Mr. Tierney: -- it's still 5 million.
Vice Chair Carollo: You're saying this may be the requirement. This is the first I see of this. I
don't know. I'm actually expecting you to tell me what we're seeing and what it is.
Mr. Tierney: Well, sure. Andl have the actual historical contributions here.
Vice Chair Carollo: Which --
Mr. Tierney: This is the requirement. Trying to show the requirements have gone up andl do
not know why these numbers are different 'cause I took them from the sources. I didn't create the
numbers. I took these from independent sources.
Commissioner Suarez: But --
Mr. Tierney: Yes.
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Commissioner Suarez: -- Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. And before you do -- well, information like that is what we also want
to receive so we can -- just like you looked in the numbers, I can look at the numbers and my
fellow Commissioners could look at the number and we all in the same playing field, because
right now you put up some charts, I don't know what that is. I got to take your numbers at face
value. I got to take this chart at face value.
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: So you understand what I'm saying.
Mr. Tierney: I couldn't agree more.
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: And Commissioner Suarez, let me address the Mayor first. Go ahead, Mr.
Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: On your point, Mr. Chairman, he just recently met with the new Manager, and
the commitment that we have to you -- andl have seen this for the first time today, so the
commitment that we have is according to your schedule, we are going to have meetings with
each of the members of the City Commission with the numbers that he has, and then you may be
able to follow up with the unions in terms of FIPO and GESE. But in the next 15 days, 3 weeks,
whatever your schedule, we are going to have a meeting, the Manager, myself and the City
actuarial [sic], the chief financial officer so, you know, we know everything and all the history
and all the (UNINTELLIGIBLE). That's my commitment to you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And Commissioner Suarez.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm not sure that the question was answered.
Maybe I didn't pose the question properly. My understanding of what the City's obligation is in
terms of contribution is that you have a fund, the pension is a fund and that fund is invested in
the market or invested in a variety of different vehicles. And based on a rate of return, and our
promised rate of return in our contracts, that determines on an estimated basis or projected
basis what the City has to contribute on a yearly basis. So this chart indicates to me that, at
least looking at it in laymen's terms -- and you can explain it to me in technical terms -- it seems
to me that you estimated from the prior year in 2000 -- you must have estimated a very healthy
rate of return in the pension fund itself which necessitated a lesser City contribution, and that's
the whole interrelation between Gates and the City and what we have to put in on a yearly basis.
Isn't that correct?
Mr. Tierney: Well, it's a little more complicated than that, but generally, yes. Now keep in mind,
I don't do these numbers. These are the board actuaries. City's not in control of establishing
what the requirements are. And they pick a standard assumed rate of return. In the FIPO case,
it's seven and three-quarters --
Commissioner Suarez: Right.
Mr. Tierney: -- percent.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I just didn't want to give --
Mr. Tierney: So it assumes that we make -- assumes we make seven and three-quarters. We
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don't take into account any more than that in advance. Now ifyou happen to make nine, then the
next year's contribution gets a credit. If we only make six, the next year's contribution gets an
additional charge, which is kind of what you've said.
Commissioner Suarez: That's precisely whatl said. So that means in 2000 we must have done
well in our investment fund so that we got a credit for 2001 since we did well, and that's why the
contribution -- What I don't want to put out there is the perception that we were underfunding
our pension fund. The fact -- the reason why it goes down and it goes up is because it fluctuates
adversely with our rate of return in the prior year of our fund -- of our pension fund
Mr. Tierney: The City has always made the requirement. The City has always paid the bill the
pension board sends them.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Spring: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Give me a second. Yes, the City has paid the required; however, I think the
point is that in 2001 and so forth, the market was very well so that's where the monies came
from, correct? The interest? No?
Mr. Tierney: Whatever. The year before whenever the credit was, yes. There's a year delay in
the actual numbers, but -- so it may have been 2000, but same principle.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right. So in other words, the City actually didn't have to pay as much
because the market was doing well. So, in essence, the City those years could have actually built
a fund and put monies aside so when the interest and the market's not doing so well, like what we
just saw, we have monies there in the reserves to actually put towards -- in other words, you
know, instead of having the fluctuation, be more even as far as every year putting in more or less
the same.
Mr. Tierney: I couldn't agree more. Now, as Larry pointed out, you did increase the reserves.
It just wasn't a dedicated reserve. That's all we're talking about.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right, exactly. That reserve was, I believe, for the general fund or for
operations, exactly, and that's what occurred.
Mr. Tierney: Well, including the pension.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, if you take the money from the general fund, but at the same time, we
wanted to build a reserve. Maybe --
Mr. Spring: Well --
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Springs [sic].
Mr. Spring: Through the Chair, to answer your point and carry out your thinking, if you will.
Money is put into the general fund reserve. Over the remaining years or I think between the
years of -- between '03 and say '07, the City did go into the reserve to help support our pension
obligation as it started to -- you see as it started to pick up. So, functionally, it functioned the
way that you're thinking. It just was not in a -- I have a pension stabilization fund set aside for
the sole purpose of "X" so --
Vice Chair Carollo: Got you. And by the way, Mr. Manager, I know you wanted to speak. Go
ahead.
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Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Thank you. I just wanted to make a slight correction on Mr.
Tierney's comment, which he knows it was an illustrative comment. But if the fund gets a return
on 9 percent, we still don't get any credits because most of that money after -- for a while goes
up to the COLA (Cost of Living Allowance) fund and it really is not up 'til 12 percent or
something in that range -- is that correct, Mr. Tierney? -- that we start getting a credit towards --
Mr. Tierney: That's correct. I was -- that's correct. The COLA fund and its basis --
Mr. Migoya: Yeah, butl --
Mr. Tierney: -- of funding as provided in Gates is a significant deterrent toward having the
pluses balance with the minuses as the conceptual discussion was here. Yes.
Mr. Migoya: So the bottom -- the reason why I wanted to make that statement was 'cause I
wouldn't expect to get any credits any time soon from this.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you for that, Mr. Manager. Anyone else? Continue with your
presentation, please.
Mr. Tierney: Actually, there may well be some credits if we're lucky enough to get more than
seven and three-quarters because they don't get any COLA fund distributions until the
accumulated losses are back to zero, which are now in negative territory. So we want to pick up
some initially. The problem is that it's weighted down. So eventually, after a couple of years of
good experience, we'll be right back to exactly what Carlos is saying so --
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, may I just ask one question?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Suarez, you're recognized.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you. Weren't there -- we had an opportunity to meet briefly --
certain years where the fund received a rate of return that was in excess of 20 percent?
Mr. Tierney: I believe that's correct.
Commissioner Suarez: There were several years. There were more than two years.
Mr. Tierney: That's right. You andl looked at the chart together.
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. So, in essence, what happens is in those years where the pension
fund is receiving -- is returning 20 or more percent, that money's remaining in the fund so that's
creating kind of a super balance, a super pension.
Mr. Tierney: Well, a lot of those funds were paid to the COLA fund in accordance with the
provisions of Gates.
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Mr. Tierney: So we didn't actually get what you said. We got part of it.
Commissioner Suarez: Right. Anything over 12 percent, I think, is what the Manager said. So
in a year where we did, let's say, 26percent -- I think one year we did 26 percent -- we got 14
percent in addition to what our legal obligations are. We have an additional 14 percent in, you
know, kind of reserve in that fund
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Mr. Tierney: I think that's correct.
Commissioner Suarez: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone else? Continue with your presentation.
Mr. Tierney: This is the same slide for GESE, same type of pattern in the 2001-2002 era. The
net contributions were low because of a favorable experience. I would like to say one thing. It's
not just asset yields that we're talking about here. If you pay salaries more than the assumed
rate, if people retire differently than you assumed -- there's all sorts of elements that can create
actuarial gains or losses. It's just that the investment return is the largest. So I think it's correct
to focus on it, but we need to be mindful that those other sources can be significant. It's not just
the investment return. So you can see this pattern is similar, the increase is significant between
last fiscal year and the current fiscal year, and that's because of the asset losses as a majority,
and we're only part way through in recognition. So what I have next is a ten-year projection --
this is FIPO -- to try to show based on those currently non -recognized market losses, the part of
them that wasn't plugged in. You know, you usually plug in about a fifth or 20 percent a year
over the next five years so that you have a chance for a market recovery to get some of it back.
You can see the larger -than -normal growth in the charts in the first several years has to do with
the recognition of the losses on the assumption that you make seven and three-quarters. There's
no more shortfalls in there, but there's no excess earnings in -- over seven and three-quarters as
well. So that's what we're looking at unless we have favorable experience. Those number would
go up if we continue to have unfavorable experience. And so you can see that we're looking at --
if we think today is ugly, the next several years are going to be even more ugly. Now that chart -
- one more thing to be said about that chart, you normally expect dollar amounts to grow
because these things are percentage of payroll funding. So theoretically, one of the tools that
you have available here -- and it's not theoretical, but it is until you do it -- is that if you hold the
line on salaries, it means that the salary growth part of that chart can be mollified. So that's why
it's a significant part of the pension cost. Salaries are projected to assume to increase. And
there's also people count projections in terms of total payroll in these numbers. So you can
control the growth due to salaries even though you don't necessarily address the pension. So
there's two things built into these charts in terms of growth, the asset loss experience that hasn't
been recognized and the payroll anticipated growth so --
Mayor Regalado: Through the Chair, please.
Vice Chair Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: Also, there is some legislation in the House, in the Senate this session that
might address the 120 or 100 percent funding of the pension. That -- is that something that
would decrease? Also, it's a possibility of the ratio of gain being decreased, also a possibility to
bring down the chart?
Mr. Tierney: That's a good question andl wish I had more charts knowing that that question
were asked because I think this is an important thing to understand. What he's referring to is
how you smooth the assets between market and actuarial. If you go back to the FIPO here, we're
talking -- on the top two lines -- about the difference between those two numbers. That actuarial
number of 1.165 million could be a larger number if they used a different test in order to smooth
the assets. Bottom line, it means you put off recognition more of the losses that actually
occurred. So it's not really saving any money. It's just saying, well, okay, we won't have to plug
it into this year's contribution yet and it will get plugged in over the next several years in an
amount that's increasing relative to this chart. So we can help with the initial part here with the
proposed change in the law by having the recognition of the losses be less in the current
evaluation recognition, and therefore more in the subsequent evaluation recognitions. So it's a
budgeting alleviation tool that certainly, if the law passes, will help in terms of next year's
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budget.
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. Yes, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Let me ask you a question. Looking at the years '98-'99 with the
contribution for the City was lower, wasn't that -- had something to do with the negotiations with
the unions also? I would like to bring that up.
Vice Chair Carollo: And that's a question for who, Commissioner Gort?
Commissioner Gort: No. It's just --
Vice Chair Carollo: Just anyone out there that --
Commissioner Gort: Anyone that wants to answer out there. But my understanding is -- because
I was there at that time, '99, '98 -- because we had the crisis. One of the reasons we paid a lot
lower is because we sat down with the unions and the unions gave some of the benefits that they
had. So it's not only the market, but the unions working with us.
Vice Chair Carollo: Someone from the Administration or --?
Mayor Regalado: I was here --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: Through Mr. Chairman. -- and that is the case. I know that GESE and
Charlie -- I remember that they made concessions. FIPO also made concessions and that was
the year of the Oversight Board and, yes, it was a result of unions coming together. I think -- do
you want, Mr. Cox, through the Chair, to --?
Vice Chair Carollo: If he wants to address the Commission, sure.
Charlie Cox: That was when we had --
Vice Chair Carollo: Name --
Mr. Cox: -- our financial emergency.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- I know we all know who you are, but --
Mr. Cox: Oh, I'm sorry. Charlie Cox, 4011 West Flagler Street, Miami, Florida. That was the
year that we resettled Gates. We saved the City hundreds of millions of dollars by erasing the
Gates' payments that the City had owed but I mean -- you know what? They're right. It's our
actuaries that put these numbers together that you're obligated to pay, but where this thing came
from -- remember -- and I'm an old man compared to most of you sitting up here. I have never
seen an economic times like we've had now. And that's not my side. The other side is ugly, but
not quite as ugly as that, but it's because of the market losses, and we are working. Ron Silver is
the sponsor -- getting people to sponsor bills up there in Tallahassee to try and get the 120 cap
lowered to 100 percent. We have done other things and so has FIPO -- and I'll let him address
that -- to save the City tons of money on pension obligations. We're not here to break the City,
let me guarantee you. But Gates is still there and you know why Gates was called -- was done
because anybody that was here knows that the City was stealing from the pension funds and not
funding them and putting them in -- their bank is no longer here and I don't think our City
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Manager ever workedfor that bank, but they were returning less than a half a percent to the
pension funds back then. You never workedfor Dade Federal, did you?
Mr. Migoya: No.
Mr. Cox: I didn't think so. So I mean, that's why Gates --
Vice Chair Carollo: Just stay on topic, Mr. Cox, please.
Mr. Cox: -- is around. Yes. I had to --
Vice Chair Carollo: I know. Just --from now on, just stay on topic.
Mr. Cox: But mean, we are willing to work, let me guarantee you. And if you think we like
seeing that stuff either -- we didn't make this market collapse, and hopefully it does turnaround,
but until then, we will do everything we can to help that.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
Mayor Regalado: And Mr. Chairman --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: -- the 100 and 120 percent, the City legislative team is committed to do --
work with the unions. I mean, AFSCME (American Federal, State, County, and Municipal
Employees) is supporting this in Tallahassee and so is FOP and so is the City's team and then
that would be something --
Vice Chair Carollo: And the firefighters union, IFFA [sic]?
Mayor Regalado: Yes, they are. And Bobby --
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Suarez.
Robert Suarez: Mr. Chair. Yes. Robert Suarez, offices at 2980 Northwest South River Drive.
We -- just on that last point, obviously, we have been working with the City and with the
Administration on this. You know, one thingl have to tell you is that a lot of the numbers that
Mr. Tierney is using, he's having to put into some prospective to be able to present to you. These
are reports that have -- they're not very fun to look at. They have all sorts of numbers. And he's
trying to sort of give you a picture of what those numbers look like. Projections are something
that's very important for you to be able to have a projection, but there really is no way to make a
ten-year projection on what a pension cost is going to be. There are an enormous amount of
assumptions. The market is the single largest driving force in what the City's cost is. For
example, just a few years ago Mr. Tierney was up here with another projection -- I think it was
2006 -- and that projection, again, showed the cost just climbing up. And in fact, the two years
after that, the cost dropped before, again, they did come back up. And we know that there are
some changes that need to be made to the system. We know there are aspects of this plan that if
the circumstances that we're looking at right now continue can become unsustainable, and that's
why the unions are working with the City on this. Some of these are just projections. There's no
way for us to say this is what you're going to be making. They're just what the City's going to be
contributing in 2012. Right now we know what the City's contribution is going to be on October
1, 2010. That's the only thing we know for sure. Everything else is a lot of projections. In many
cases it can go down before it goes up. But you have our commitment. The unions are working
with the City on this. It is in our best interest for these plans to stay sustainable, for the City to
remain sustainable. Andl can only speak for the firefighters. In our last collective bargaining
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agreement, yes, we got raises. We gave back pension benefits. We increased our pension
contribution. So we wouldn't do that if we didn't realize there was issues that had to be
addressed, and we are still remaining to -- you know, committing to work with the City on that.
But a lot of the numbers you look at, I would love to sit down with you to discuss what some of
these numbers mean, what they don't mean, and to help put it into prospective. But it is very
difficult for Mr. Tierney, I know, to come up here. And you want a projection. It is very difficult
to project. In the City's opinion, this is only going to get worse and he's trying to project that
into a graph, but it is very difficult to predict what the costs are going to be. They very well
could drop before they go back up in this pattern again. Andl guess what somebody mentioned
earlier is really what we have to focus on. Not only what changes we make to the system and to
the plan that drive the costs but, again, as somebody alluded to earlier, when the costs do drop,
making sure that we don't use that money for something else. Yes, we did put it in the general
fund. But when it's in the general fund, it has no commitment.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right.
Mr. Suarez: It's free to be budgeted as it was. It was budgeted for other purposes. So that's part
of what we want to make sure the commitment is, is when with money does goes away, that it get
allocated and used for those future years. 'Cause, in fact, it will drop in certain years. The cost,
based on the market, will drop and we need to make sure we allocate that money in addition to
whatever system changes we make to the plan to reduce those costs. And like Mr. Tierney said, a
lot of those assumptions are based on salary increases 'cause actuarially they have to expect that
the salaries are going to go up. In fact, we know that for the most part that's not what's
happening the next year or two, so those assumptions will be down. And -- but like I said, there's
a lot of discussion that has to go on to this. I know this Commission has not been privy to a lot
of the conversations that have occurred in these chambers over the past two years, but you have
the union's commitment to not only help educate you on what this subject is, but the commitment
to help bring down these costs and control that to -- we want to make sure this plan in this city is
in place for at least the next 50 years.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Suarez. And you know, I'm glad that you're willing to
work with us. At the same time, I'm sure you have the commitment of this Commission, this
Mayor, this Administration to work hard to, you know, get the City on the right track, and yes, I
haven't been privy to a lot of those conversations. As a matter of fact, you andl has -- haven't
even met with regards to pensions and so forth. And you know the type of person that I am and
how I look at details and stuff like that, so I understand exactly what you're saying as for the
projections. But then I want to get into those details. I want to see the projections 'cause you
know what? They're based on estimates andl want to make sure those estimates are reasonable.
And that's what we're asking, you know, that everything be reasonable and so forth. So again,
you know, I think everybody here -- as long as everybody works in good faith, we're going to be
able to move this City forward.
Mr. Migoya: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Migoya: Once Mr. Tierney's done with his presentation, which he's just basically got, I
think, one more or two slides to go, I'd like to mention some of the things that the
Administration's working on on this side, including what the unions are going to have to do as
well.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. Thank you. I would appreciate that. Mr. Tierney, can you
continue, please?
Mr. Tierney: Thank you. Andl guess deserve my retort on that, right? The current valuation,
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the current valuation reports, they're projections, they're estimates. So whatever's on this chart
is the same thing; it's no better or worse. I think the point that was made is the further on you go
on in the future, the more variation there is relative to the assumptions. But I can tell you the
probability is almost zero you're going to have a decline in those rates, okay. So that's -- it's
because of the asset losses that are still going to have to be plugged into the plan. So we've got a
big hurdle to climb if we expect to have a rate decrease. I don't think that's the expectation at
all. And think the projections are valuable. You got to have a baseline. And we know they're
estimates. Hopefully, they're based on the assumptions that the actuary for the plan made. I
think that he thinks they're reasonable. I think that they're probably reasonable, butt haven't
been involved in all the studies, so they look reasonable on their face. I can tell you that the plan
actuary, in general, has been more conservative than other actuaries in the state in terms of their
assumed investment return, so I know it's kind of -- it's not necessarily a happy result, but the
point is that the plan has been somewhat more conservative than other plans in the state that use
the higher return to get a lower requirement in the past. So you didn't have that done by the plan
actuary, andl think that probably served us all well to try to be more conservative, not to be
unduly optimistic at least on the assumed investment return. So I think that it's important to look
at projections because even though we know they're estimates -- I think you made the point very
well. But in order to compare it to what we are going to do differently, we have to -- we can now
measure differences, and those are pretty reliable based on the same assumptions, what will
change if we do this is completely relevant. And we have to have a baseline projection in order
to do that. That's why this is a very valuable tool. If we are going to take advantage of this state
law that might be passed -- and oh, by the way, the City ofMiami is not the only one that's
interested in this. You got a lot of other cities that are hoping to -- doing their part to try to get it
to pass too. But we need to understand what the impact of that is. And I'm not suggesting that
we don't do that. I think we probably should. But we need to know on this chart what that
means to us if we do that. That's why this is so important. This is a tool that hasn't been used
before. Andl continue to recommend it to be used so that we know what's going to happen over
the next several years by what we decide for next year. Okay, so that's FIPO. And the last -- this
is the same projection for GESE. You can see there's a big jump from the current year, which is
the first bar on the chart, to the next fiscal year, and that is the recognition of the big actuarial
loss in that plan. Again, limited by the range, but you can see that the progression of increases
is based on the same point in FIPO that it is the phased recognition of the asset losses. You
might ask, well, why does it drop down in the tenth year? And that's because one of the
mortgages -- the unfunded mortgages are going to be paid off in that year -- the year before. So
we are going to get some mortgage drop-offs of un -- the prior unfunded liabilities that had been
fully discharged by that point, so that's why you see that difference in this projection compared
to FIPO.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is that the --
Mayor Regalado: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- conclusion of your presentation?
Mr. Tierney: That's the state of where we are. Yes, sir. Now next is what to do about it.
Commissioner Gort: Any good news?
Mayor Regalado: And Mr. Chairman, like I said, Mr. Tierney is in Jacksonville, but he's able to
come down at -- according to your schedule to meet with us and explain. And this will be very
healthy and this will be very helpful, but I think that the Manager -- actually, before becoming
Manager, he had met with him in our behalf so he would understand what is going on, so he's
not like on the first day. He knows already so --
Mr. Migoya: I got a post -graduate degree in about two hours in a meeting with Mr. Tierney on
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the pensions. And there's a lot of things here that we can't control and some things here that we
can control or we can control together with the unions. One of the big impacts that you have
with the pension, of course, is as the US (United States) population continues to have a longer
life expectancy, that's going to make more payments and therefore that's going to make our costs
greater. The challenges that -- you know, when you say you have a seven and three-quarters
percent return and you say that's ridiculous, you're not going to make that, if it was lower than
that, that means the City would have to make annual apportionments greater. So it's -- it works
on both sides to this. Other things that impact it beyond life expectancy and salaries is also the
vesting process and a lot of the other issues. And we've already received some recommendations
from the police union on some things that we're doing and the Finance people have done some
analysis with Mr. Tierney on that and they will be talking to them and we'll be talking to each of
you as to what that looks like. But as we go forward at least early indications are that all the
union leaders are obviously just as interested as we are because it -- right now we're at 20
percent of the budget and only getting higher with these kind of apportionments that we're
looking at here for both FIFO and GESE combined, so the challenge is going to be how we work
on those. You talked briefly about in the past, and frankly, I guess right now we need to worry
about the future. It would have been nice if we would have had some kind of a reserve towards
those future payments, and you think about the payments that you have right now, which are all
the future indications -- whether you believe it or not, it's $100 million, and that's assuming we
hit a seven and three-quarters percent return over the next ten years. I don't know any
economists that are assuming anything of that magnitude. But having said that, we need to try to
figure out how if we have any one-time sales or anything or how we need to do -- is to put some
kind of reserves -- we've got to figure out -- we're not going to get it from operations obviously in
the near future. The other thing which is important is that those returns are five-year averages.
We went from a three-year to five-year averages when we had good years to try to take
advantage of those years. The five-year average is going to carry 2008 and 2009, which were
both horrible market years, for the next several years. So don't expect those returns to increase.
So the bottom line is we have a lot of challenges around that and we are -- we're going to all
work together to try to figure out how to impact. And as we have conversations with the unions
and recommendations and so forth, Mr. Tierney will work with us in looking at what those
variables do to the impact of our payment. So that's a kind of a long answer, but
(UNINTELLIGIBLE) is there's more to come.
Vice Chair Carollo: Excellent. Any discussion?
Commissioner Dunn: Just -- Mr. Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Just wanted to raise a question. If the -- these projections that were given,
if it were to change or drop -- would it change or drop if we were to drop the multiplier?
Mr. Migoya: Absolutely.
Mayor Regalado: Yes. Yes, it would drop. Yes.
Mr. Migoya: Michael.
Mayor Regalado: And that's one of the things that had been addressed with the unions and the
Manager and myself and all the staff. And yes. The answer is yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, 'cause the multiplier is part of the calculation, correct?
Mr. Migoya: The multiplier is a big piece --
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Vice Chair Carollo: Right.
Mr. Migoya: -- of the calculations.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah, exactly. So, yes.
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Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor.
Commissioner Gort: Through the Chair.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor. I knew I was going to get teased about it.
Mayor Regalado: It's okay. They do that in the County. Mr. Chairman, I have placed a
discussion item concerning the 2009-2010 budget and, of course, I will tell you that as today
with your vote, you sat the new Manager in this chair, the sense of urgency about getting you
and me and him all the right information has begun. I would not like to start giving you
numbers. I know that you have been informed that there have been some discoveries regarding
the past year budget and some transfers of funds, which will add to probably the last year's
deficit, but I can tell you that think -- and the Manager can comment on that -- we will have the
numbers. I don't know if we will have it right, but we will have the numbers soon in terms of
what we have. And so -- just to confirm that and not to be --
Vice Chair Carollo: Well --
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): Through the Chair?
Vice Chair Carollo: No. All you have to do is just address me. You don't have to "through the
Chair.
Mr. Migoya: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: Just address me. Just say Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Migoya: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Dunn: You like the way that sounds, don't you?
Vice Chair Carollo: I knew they were going to tease about this. No. And in all fairness, as far
as 2009 numbers, isn't the audit due what, March 31? So we're -- one way or another, we're
going to get --
Mr. Migoya: No. The March 31 is 2008-2009. What the Mayor's discussing is about
2009-2010.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. But -- no, I understand that, but think we're going to hit our
reserves for 2009 so let's see where we're at there. Because I think what the Mayor stated that
there might be an additional amount --
Mayor Regalado: Yes.
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Vice Chair Carollo: -- for 2009. So once we get those numbers we'll also then deal with 2010,
but --
Mayor Regalado: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- I think the Mayor was addressing 2009 numbers, which will come, at the
latest, March 31 from the auditors --
Mr. Migoya: Correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- and then we'll, you know --
Mr. Migoya: That's correct.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly.
Mayor Regalado: Okay. Well, that's -- the promise is to give you the right information by that
time, Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And Mr. Manager, I think you wanted to say
something?
Mr. Migoya: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just briefly, just -- to support what the Mayor said,
we've been working very diligent with the chief financial officer, the Finance director, and with
the Budget director. The plans are -- andl think I've talked to each one ofyou individually --
but the plans are that we will be able to close the months of the City -- the City books on a
monthly basis, and by the second meeting of the Commission on a monthly basis, we will not only
be able to provide you the numbers for the previous month, how we're doing against budget, and
what the projections are as it relates to the end of the year budget and -- so that we are
completely transparent as to where we are. So rather than continue to speculate -- I know that
the media is trying to get what the number -- we will be able to by -- March 25, I believe, will be
the meeting. We will have the February numbers for you, what that looks like for February,
what are the budget issues for the entire year, and then hopefully by then we'll have some actions
on how we can try to impact those numbers.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Manager. I think that's something that we're all thirsting
for. I mean, we really are. And you know, I truly appreciate you, you know, knowing the
importance of that, the urgency as you mentioned, and working towards that so, you know, I
thank you.
M.3 10-00106 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE TAX ABATEMENTS OWED TO CITY
OF MIAMI BUSINESSES.
10-00106 Memo.pdf
10-00106 Legal Opinion.pdf
DISCUSSED
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Regalado: -- M.3 is a discussion item concerning the tax abatement owed to City of
Miami businesses. I hate to bring you this after the pension and the budget, but before we face
any legal issues, it is important that we briefly discuss the tax abatement owed to City ofMiami
business. Unfortunately, the past Administration dropped the ball on this one and we are faced
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now with a payment, which is not like very bad news, but to make a long story short, the voters of
the City ofMiami approved the tax abatement to business [sic] that will create job in the City of
Miami, and it was implemented, and the City Attorney has opined on this issue, I think. If you
want a very brief history, I can bring the person that has been working on this with my chief of
staff to understand. After we were contacted two month [sic] ago by several business [sic] -- I
think it's about five that are seeking some kind of payment, and they were asking for us to comply
or they will file suit to get this. So if you want to --
Vice Chair Carollo: It's whatever the will of this Commission is. I know for a fact, ifI don't
hear it now, I'm going to want to hear it later on, you know, set up an appointment. So it's
whatever the will of this Commission wants. Commissioner Dunn.
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman, I had the privilege to sit in on the meeting andl was very
perplexed, but very enthused at the possibility of this being something that could bolster many of
our small businesses, andl certainly would like to hear from the City as it relates to this.
Mayor Regalado: And you know, this is not such bad news because we're talking the future, but
unfortunately, you know, when things are not addressed at the time we get caught -- I mean, you
cannot postpone the bad news for years. It will caught [sic] up with you. So just briefly.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you. And name and address for the record. Thank you.
Marcus James: Good morning, Commissioners. Marcus James, Economic Development project
manager, City Manager's office. I took over this program in '05. It was basically thrown on my
desk andl was told to take care of it. Once I went through the ordinance, I realized that the
ordinance was poorly written. There were stipulations in the ordinance that made it impossible
for the property appraiser's office, who is also involved in this process, to do its due diligence.
So, I mean, the way we wrote the ordinance, it wouldn't have been a bad deal if we controlled
the entire process, but we did not. So that's where it stalled there. So once I talked to
Miami -Dade County, figured out what the issues were, we redid the ordinance, presented it to
Commission, and that's where we are right now. But this tax abatement ad valorem tax
exemption ordinance is basically for only businesses within the Enterprise Zone. So these are
some of the poorest areas ofMiami. So what we also did was formulated a plan to basically pay
this forward on future taxes instead of the City writing a check. So I fully intend to come to the
Commission and brief all of you on exactly where we are with this and the specifics, but I just
wanted to talk generally on exactly where we are on the program itself.
Mayor Regalado: And --
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you for that.
Mayor Regalado: -- the City Attorney has also an opinion in terms of what years this should be
offered, butt guess that we will do that later on. So I just wanted to make you aware of the
situation. And this is --
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Mayor Regalado: Oh, I'm sorry.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. Gort.
Commissioner Gort: Do we have to go retroactive or --?
Mayor Regalado: Yes, 2004.
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Commissioner Gort: This was approved in 2004?
Mayor Regalado: Yes. But only -- well, the City Attorney and the Manager will give you more
details, written details so you can understand this.
M.4 10-00167 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION CONCERNING AN UPDATE ON THE RESTORATION OF
THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM.
10-00167 Memo.pdf
DISCUSSED
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Mr. Chairman, this is the end of the bad news, so if you allow, I could
start with --
Vice Chair Carollo: Some good news?
Mayor Regalado: Something of good news.
Vice Chair Carollo: M.4.
Mayor Regalado: M.4. It's a discussion item concerning an update of the restoration of the
Miami Marine Stadium. As you know, Mr. Chairman, you andl visited the Marine Stadium right
after the election andl would like also for each and every one in this Commission also to visit
the place. There is a commitment by this Mayor and this Administration to restore the Miami
Marine Stadium, but of course, we all know that it is impossible to do it with general fund
That's out of the question totally. I will tell you that we are about to probably be able to access
historic funds and private donations so we can start the process of the restoration of the Miami
Marine Stadium, andl would be reporting to each of you regarding this issue. I think that we
have some pending at the Miami -Dade County Board of Commissioners in the month of March,
sponsored by Commissioner Carlos Gimenez, who represents the area of Virginia Beach and
Key Biscayne, and of course, a great part of the City ofMiami. So that's just an update.
[Later..]
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: One of the things I'd like to bring up, one of the ideas maybe is for the
Marine Stadium is looking at the three P's, which is something that's being implemented by a lot
of cities, which is private public sector partnership.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, would you like to address that?
Mayor Regalado: Yes. I believe that -- and this is one of the things that I just mentioned, and I
would be bringing this to you for your consideration. I would try to get in your schedule to
explain to you. I will tell you that there is a private foundation that is willing to donate money, a
substantial amount of money, so we will need to create a sort of an entity to get that money only
for the Miami Marine Stadium and have something like Chairman has in the Bayfront Trust, like
a trust or something. But I will tell you that if we -- I will tell you that right now there is a
private foundation that is willing to donate a substantial amount of money to start the
reconstruction of -- restoration of the of Marine Stadium, so that's important.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you.
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M.5 10-00168 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION CONCERNING AN UPDATE ON BIKE MIAMI DAYS.
10-00168 Memo.pdf
DISCUSSED
Mayor Tomas Regalado: The other update, Mr. Chairman, is M.5, which is an update on Bike
Miami Days. And we have -- when we took office, we commit to the people that we will continue
Bike Miami Days, and this commitment is real. The next Bike Miami Days schedules are April
25 in Coconut Grove from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. in this -- the Dutch Consulate is participating to
celebrate Queen's Day, and they will provide orange T-shirts, balloons, and giveaways. And
they are also providing shirts for volunteers. Let me say to you that we all enjoy Bike Miami
Days, but we found out that the cost of this event whenever it was done was about $30, 000, and
the Parks Department used to fund most of these costs. Now we cannot do this, so we are trying
to get sponsors. And we have Violet (phonetic) Sprawl (phonetic) who is helping the Mayor's
office getting sponsors, and there is a meeting tomorrow here at City Hall with the
Commissioner's office, Commissioner Sarnoffs office, the BID (Business Improvement District)
on the Grove, the Grove Chamber in terms of financing the Bike Miami Days on April 25. Now,
the next Bike Miami Days will take place in downtown Miami, Wynwood, Design District, Little
Havana, and Flagami, and of course, in the Liberty City/Model City area. So this is our goal for
this and it would not ride on the Parks Department's budget. We will find sponsors. That's --
Mr. Chairman, the other --
Vice Chair Carollo: Before you continue to M.6, I just want to say, Mr. Mayor, that I was part
of the very first Bike Miami Day. You can plan on me and my wife attending the April 25 Bike
Miami Day. Some time ago I was somewhat of an athlete so, you now, I'm always looking for
sporting adventures and so forth. And the truth of the matter is, every once in a while, it's good
to leave your car at home and go for a bike ride. So I just wanted to mention for the record that
you can count on me with all the Bike Miami funding needed and not only that -- I mean, just the
participation. So thank you.
Mayor Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I'd just like to say that the Manager is a biker
so --
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): If you'd like, tomorrow morning at 6 o'clock, I'll meet you at
the entrance of Key Biscayne, Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Six o'clock? That's too late. What about 5? And don't try to race me
either.
Mayor Regalado: But -- and his son is also a biker, who lives in the Grove, so -- and my son
also is a biker so, you know, we're good with that.
M.6 10-00169 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION CONCERNING AN UPDATE ON THE CITY OF MIAMI'S
ROLE IN THE 2010 CENSUS.
10-00169 Memo.pdf
DISCUSSED
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Mr. Chairman, the City ofMiami role in the 2010 census is one of the
probably the most important things that we should do in the next three month [sic], other than
the many important things that we have to do. As you know, the City ofMiami was helped by a
group, Social Compact, to understand that people were undercounted in the City ofMiami by the
2008 census track projections, and we believe that -- they believe that at least 60,000 people
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Honorable Mayor
Tomas Regalado
were unaccounted in the City ofMiami. If we reach the threshold of half a million, which I think
we can andl think we will, we can access more federal funds than we do now. And it is
important to get everybody into the census mood. I think we have the director of the office here.
I believe that he was here. Oh, okay. We have members of the census and they've been very
helpful in helping us navigate this. And one of the priorities that they have is to go into the high
schools for the 18 year olds, 17 years [sic] old [sic] to -- so they can understand that they have
to also register for the census. We are sending, through the after -schools in every park in the
City ofMiami, a letter to the parents of every children [sic] and every children [sic] in any and
all parks is getting a letter for their parents asking them in [sic] behalf of the City to participate.
And it is of great importance that we get counted in this census. Andl wish that maybe we can
probably have you, all of you do like spots for Miami TV (Television) asking the different district
members to register for the census and all that, and we can arrange that if that is -- so --
Commissioner Gort: Very important.
Mayor Regalado: That's (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah. As a matter offact, I would like to reach
out to my colleagues and maybe, you know, within each of our respective districts, you know, we
could reach out, be somewhat of an advocate 'cause it's truly important for all of us.
ORDINANCE
First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AMENDING CHAPTER
2 /ARTICLE XI/ DIVISION 3 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, ENTITLED "ADMINISTRATION/BOARDS,
COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS/MAYOR'S INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL,"
MORE PARTICULARLY BY AMENDING SECTIONS 2-922 AND 2-923 TO
MAINTAIN A SEPARATE, NON-PROFIT 501(C)(3) CORPORATION AND
PROVIDE FOR THE MAYOR TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE COUNCIL;
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10-00108 Legislation FR/SR.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
PASSED ON FIRST READING PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
Mayor Tomas Regalado: And the last item, Mr. Chairman, is an ordinance that was deferred
since I wasn't able to be here on February 11, but it's important for the Mayor's International
Council. The Mayor's International Council is a very good working tool to bring business and
visitors and opportunities to the City ofMiami. The Mayor's International Council had a budget
of half a million dollars in the past years, and this budget is zero dollars. It was -- andl voted
for -- I mean that's the things that we needed to do in the past budget, so we need to have a
separate non -for -profit 501(c)3 corporation so people can donate to the Mayor's International
Council so we can do events or participate in bringing visitors. We probably will have the visit
of the president of Panama very soon. And it is important for us. So this is a first reading
ordinance that I present to you for your consideration. If you want to hear the ordinance now
and --
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, listen to the ordinance. And will we be able to get a motion before
voting on it? Yeah, we'll get a motion. As a matter offact, I mean, that's exactly what we should
be doing. We -- instead of using general funds, we should have a pub -- you know, a
public -private relationship and, you know, do economic development in this way. And this is the
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correct way so we don't have to tap into our general fund So ifI could receive a motion?
Commissioner Dunn: So move.
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Moved by Commissioner Dunn, seconded by Commissioner Gort.
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): Mr. Vice Chair, it is an ordinance, so you need to open it up to the
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Right.
Ms. Bru: -- public hearing.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you for that. Anyone from the public wishing to --
Commissioner Gort: Don't you have to read it?
Vice Chair Carollo: -- speak on this item?
Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman, doesn't it have to be read?
Vice Chair Carollo: No. It does --
Commissioner Dunn: (UNINTET,T IGIBT ,F) -- don't you have to read it first? Read the
ordinance.
Ms. Bru: Well, I'll read it when you're ready to vote.
Vice Chair Carollo: Right.
Ms. Bru: I'll read the title into the record when you're ready to vote.
Vice Chair Carollo: Exactly. Is there anyone from the public wishing to speak on this item?
Commissioner Gort: Do you know what item is [sic] that is?
Vice Chair Carollo: The 501(c) 3 for the Mayor's International Council. No?
Commissioner Gort: Thank you.
Vice Chair Carollo: Hearing none, seeing none, public meeting [sic] is closed, and Madam City
Attorney, if you will read the ordinance for the record, please.
The Ordinance was read by title into the public record by the City Attorney.
Vice Chair Carollo: Before I move for a roll call, is there any other discussion? Any
discussion? City -- Madam City Clerk, can we have a roll call, please.
Ms. Thompson: Your roll call.
A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The ordinance has been passed on first reading, 4-0.
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END OF CITYWIDE ITEMS
DISTRICT 1
COMMISSIONER WIFREDO (WILLY) GORT
END OF DISTRICT 1
DISTRICT 2
CHAIRMAN MARC DAVID SARNOFF
END OF DISTRICT 2
DISTRICT 3
VICE-CHAIRMAN FRANK CAROLLO
END OF DISTRICT 3
DISTRICT 4
COMMISSIONER FRANCIS SUAREZ
END OF DISTRICT 4
DISTRICT 5
COMMISSIONER RICHARD P. DUNN, II
END OF DISTRICT 5
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NON -AGENDA ITEMS
NA.1 10-00242 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION BY MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO AND THE CITY
COMMISSION THANKING PEDRO G. HERNANDEZ FOR HIS SERVICE
AS CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI.
DISCUSSED
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Mayor, you are recognized for the record.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As you all know, last Friday I accepted the
resignation of Pete Hernandez, our City Manager. And on Monday, I appointed Carlos Migoya
as the new City Manager. Before I bring the resolution for ratifying and approving and
confirming our appointment, I would like to ask Pete Hernandez to come to the podium so we
can thank him for his years of service as City Manager of the City of Miami.
Applause.
Pedro G. Hernandez: If you allow me. It's unusual for me to be standing on this side. I had to
say hello to Mariano. Mariano, I've known for, I think, over 25, 30 years.
Mariano Cruz: Rapid Transit (UNINTELLIGIBLE) long time ago.
Mr. Hernandez: So we're old friends. It is indeed, I would say, difficult for me to be standing on
this side. I want to definitely and sincerely thank the Mayor, thank all of you for allowing me to
participate in the government of the City ofMiami. It's to me a great experience and a sense of
pleasure and satisfaction to have been able to serve for the three and a half years that I did that
job for all of you. I would like to also be able to thank all the administrative staff at the City for
their dedication, their passion. I was always pushing them because I felt that they could always
be better, andl hope they'll remember this, that they always have to strive to get better. Even
though they may be good, you can always get better. This is a -- the type ofjob that may not
have the associated credit that people see in other jobs. Public service has no greater
satisfaction than knowing that you have done your best to improve your community and to
improve the residents of the City. And every one of the City employees, they know in their heart
that when they do a little deed to help a simple citizen, they've done their job that day, and
dedication to public service has no boundaries and has no equal. The transition period and my
exit from the City, I think that it was going to happen at some point, whether November,
December, January. If you recall, November was a difficult month. Mayor Regalado was
elected first, Vice Chair Carollo, and then Commissioner Suarez. If you recall in those days,
there was a period where we were down to one Commissioner -- two -- and we had no quorum.
Obviously, that was no time to step out. I want to thank, you know, Mayor Regalado for
allowing me to work in this transition to allow him the time to set up his office, organize his staff
and work through those difficult periods. And as I look, you know, to the future, I think the
timing could not be better than to do it now and allow the new manager the opportunity to
acclimate himself with the City before the challenges of the union contracts and the 2011 budget.
Sometimes because of human nature we tend to dwell on the negatives, but I think that over the
last three, four years, we've done many great things in the City. I think the City today is a better
place. And no one person can do it all. I didn't do lots of things by myself. I have to be thankful
to everyone in staff for actually being there and helping out and making dreams realities. I know
we have a lot of challenges ahead. Andl say we, as the City. But we've done well in the past,
and we need to strive to the future to even be better and to better serve the citizens of this great
City. Thank you to all of you. It's been a great experience. And my best wishes to the
Commission and especially to Mayor Regalado. Mayor.
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Honorable Mayor
Tomas Regalado
Applause.
RESOLUTION
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION, RATIFYING,
APPROVING AND CONFIRMING MAYOR TOMAS REGALADO'S
APPOINTMENT OF CARLOS A. MIGOYA AS CITY MANAGER OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 22, 2010.
10-00237-Legislation. pdf
Motion by Commissioner Dunn II, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
R-10-0083
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Mr. Chairman, the business of the City must go on, and on Monday I
appointed Carlos Migoya as City Manager of the City ofMiami, effective February 22, 2010. I
would like to proffer a resolution for the Chairman and Commissioners to consider and vote on
it. It's a resolution of the Miami City Commission raging, approving, and confirming Mayor
Tomas Regalado appointment of Carlos A. Migoya as City Manager of the City of Miami,
Florida, effective February 22, 2010. Whereas on February 22, 2010, Mayor Tomas Regalado
appointed Carlos A. Migoya to the position of City Manager of the City of Miami, Florida, and
whereas pursuant to Section IV of the Charter of the City ofMiami, Florida, as amended, the
Mayor is required to appoint the City Manager subject to the approval within 14 days of a
majority of the City Commissioners then in office, and whereas the City Commission wishes to
rag, approve, and confirm Tomas Regalado's appointment of Carlos Migoya as City Manager
of the City ofMiami, Florida, effective February 22, 2010, and whereas Mr. Migoya will not be
receiving salary or benefits with the exception of the use of a personal digital assistant, PDA,
and payment of reasonable expenses for City ofMiami business. Now, therefore, be it resolved
by the Commission of the City ofMiami, Florida, the recitals and findings contained in the
preamble of this resolution are adopted by reference and incorporated as fully set forth in this
section, Section II, Mayor Tomas Regalado's appointment of Carlos A. Migoya as City Manager
of the City ofMiami, Florida, effective February 22, 2010. It's rag, approved, confirmed.
Section III, no salary or benefits shall be provided except for the use of PDA and the City of
Miami shall pay for reasonable expense incurred for City ofMiami business. This, Mr.
Chairman, members of the Commission, is the resolution that I'm bringing before you
requesting, Mr. Chairman, a vote.
Vice Chair Carollo: Is there a motion for the Mayor's resolution?
Commissioner Dunn: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Mr. -- Commissioner Dunn, you're recognized.
Commissioner Dunn: So move. I --
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: I have a motion by Commissioner Dunn. I have a second by Commissioner
Gort. Is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, Madam City Clerk, could we have a roll
call?
Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): Your roll call.
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A roll call was taken, the result of which is stated above.
Ms. Thompson: The appointment, ratification, and the adoption of the resolution appointing
Carlos A. Migoya as our City Manager is adopted, 4-0.
Applause.
Mayor Regalado: Mr. Chairman, before I give you the City Manager, I'd like to read on the
record a letter by Chairman Marc Sarnoff. And the letter states -- andl believe that you were
copied -- Honorable Mayor Tomas Regalado and fellow Commissioners, I am sorry that I'm not
able to attend the February 25 Commission meeting to personally welcome our new City
Manager, Carlos Migoya, but as Chairman of the Commission, I'd like to once again commend
our Mayor on his choice ofMr. Migoya. I have had the pleasure of meeting with Mr. Migoya to
discuss (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of the current state of our city, andl am certain that he's the right
person to navigate the difficult road ahead. Those who know Mr. Migoya can attest to his ability
to be a team leader who sincerely cares about the people around him, who would -- also is not
afraid to make tough decisions. With revenue down and expenses increasing, there are certainly
tough decisions to be made in the very near future. Carlos Migoya is offering a wealth of
experience and leadership from a successful private sector career and will no doubt serve as a
positive force for change in the way our city does business. To my fellow Commissioners, please
accept this as my endorsement ofMr. Migoya and my strong recommendation that we approve
the nomination of our Mayor. Signed Marc Sarnoff. I'll give you now the City Manager of the
City of Miami, Carlos Migoya.
Applause.
Carlos A. Migoya (City Manager): I'm not here to give speeches, but Mr. Chairman,
Commissioners, Mayor Regalado, thank you very much for your support. We have a long road
ahead of us. We've got a lot of work to do. As I said in the press conference on Monday, this is
not about my job, it's about all of us. Of course, misery loves company and that's why we're all -
- have to be in it together. But it's really important that not just us as a leadership group, but
every employee of the City, the unions, we all work together over the next several months to
make sure that we have the right situation in place for the betterment of our taxpayers and our
residents of the City ofMiami. So I accept this position with great honor, and I'm looking
forward to working with all of you. Thank you.
Applause.
Mayor Regalado: So, Mr. Chairman, it's time for the City Manager to sit at the hot seat.
Ms. Thompson: Excuse me, Chair?
Mayor Regalado: Oh, we need to swear the City Manager. I'm sorry.
Commissioner Gort: We do?
Mayor Regalado: Would the City Manager come up and members of the Commission?
At this time, Carlos A. Migoya was sworn in as City Manager of the City ofMiami by Priscilla A.
Thompson, City Clerk.
Ms. Thompson: Congratulations. Welcome.
Applause.
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Commissioner Gort: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes, Commissioner Gort.
Commissioner Gort: May I ask a favor? We had the chief of police from the City of Sweetwater.
Can we bring that up so we can send him back to work at Sweetwater?
Vice Chair Carollo: Give me one second.
Commissioner Gort: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: I want to go -- to see what we're going to defer and so forth to get a hold of
the meeting. But yes, I would -- I'll bring it up. Just give me a second.
Commissioner Gort: Thank you, sir.
Vice Chair Carollo: Mr. Manager, first of all, congratulations.
Mr. Migoya: Thank you very much, sir.
NA.3 10-00243 DISCUSSION ITEM
DISCUSSION BY MAYOR REGALADO REGARDING RECENT ARRESTS
OF GRAFFITI ARTISTS MADE BY CITY OF MIAMI POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
DISCUSSED
Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Mayor, you're recognized for the record.
Mayor Tomas Regalado: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. We have several, I'm sorry, but I
think they're important items. I first want to start by reporting to you -- 'cause you -- I know that
graffiti has been one of the hot issues discussed by this Commission, andl was informed by the
chief of police that they have made three arrests of several people that were painting graffiti in
the Shenandoah area, andl think that's good news because it affects District 4 and District 3.
And l just want to congratulate the police for doing that.
NA.4 10-00245 RESOLUTION
Office of the City A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING
Clerk CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND
DEFENSE/NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM
OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR TERMS AS DESIGNATED HEREIN.
APPOINTEE: NOMINATED BY:
Henry Zayas-Bazan Mayor Tomas Regalado
10-00245-Submittal-Memo-Mayoral Appointment.pdf
Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Gort, that this matter be
ADOPTED PASSED by the following vote.
Votes: Ayes: 4 - Commissioner(s) Carollo, Gort, Suarez and Dunn II
Absent: 1 - Commissioner(s) Sarnoff
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Vice Chair Carollo: And Mr. Mayor, I was told by the City Clerk, you may have a pocket item?
Mayor Tomas Regalado: I just have a pocket item that Commissioner Suarez can do it,
whatever. It's an appointment to a board, but whenever you decide is --
Commissioner Suarez: We can do it now if you like.
Vice Chair Carollo: Do you want to do it now?
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah. I think it will be good.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. This is your last item, right, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Regalado: I'm sorry?
Vice Chair Carollo: This is your last item?
Mayor Regalado: Yes.
Vice Chair Carollo: Yeah. Let's do it now since --
Commissioner Suarez: Yeah.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- the Mayor is here.
Mayor Regalado: Well, I can do several more. No, no, it's the last.
Vice Chair Carollo: After lunch --
Mayor Regalado: Yeah, okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- 'cause we're going to be breaking for lunch according to our policies and
procedures manual. With that said, is there a motion?
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman, this is a pocket item submitting the following appointment
for the February 25, 2010 Commission meeting regarding the Homeland Defense/Neighborhood
Improvement Bond Program Oversight Board. The Mayor would like to proffer the name Henry
Zayas-Bazan for that board.
Vice Chair Carollo: That -- there is a motion by Commissioner Suarez. Is there a second?
Commissioner Gort: Second.
Vice Chair Carollo: Second by Commissioner Gort. Any discussion? All in favor, say "aye."
The Commission (Collectively): Aye.
Vice Chair Carollo: Anyone in opposition have the same right, say "no." Motion passes
unanimously.
Mayor Regalado: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Carollo: Definitely. And with that said, gentlemen, should we break for lunch and
how much time do you all want? An hour and a half? When do you want to come back?
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Commissioner Dunn: Two o'clock?
Vice Chair Carollo: One -thirty, two? Two?
Commissioner Dunn: Two, two -thirty?
Vice Chair Carollo: Sure. No, no, no.
Commissioner Dunn: Two.
Vice Chair Carollo: Not 2: 30, but --
Commissioner Dunn: Two.
Vice Chair Carollo: Let's do 2?
Commissioner Dunn: That's it.
Commissioner Suarez: Mr. Chairman?
Vice Chair Carollo: Yes.
Commissioner Suarez: Is it possible to hear a PZ (Planning & Zoning) item now before lunch?
Vice Chair Carollo: It would have to -- it's probably going to take long and -- yeah. It's going
to take long. Let's just recess, you know --
Commissioner Suarez: Okay.
Vice Chair Carollo: -- as planned.
NA.5 10-00244 DISCUSSION ITEM
BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE STATUS OF FLAGSTONE
AGREEMENT.
DISCUSSED
Vice Chair Carollo: And before we move into our PZ (Planning & Zoning) items, I want to take
a point of privilege to ask -- Madam City Attorney, I want to take a point of privilege to ask you
a question of an upcoming item. It is my understanding that the Flagstone item should be
coming up at the next City ofMiami Commission. Have you been in contact with Flagstone at
all? Have they been reaching out to us? Because it was my understanding that we allowed them
an additional month, a month extension to work out all the kinks that was in the contract and so
forth, and even, you know, renegotiate any of the items, so to speak. Have they reached out to
us, or have you been in communication with them?
Julie O. Bru (City Attorney): They have been exchanging drafts with stafffrom my office, andl
know that there is a meeting scheduled for tomorrow to try to work out on some of the issues that
might still be, you know, back and forth. I don't know if someone from the Administration can
address whether or not we will be ready with a document to go to print on Tuesday. That's a
question I have too.
Vice Chair Carollo: Thank you, Madam City Attorney. And the reason why I'm asking is
because I want to make sure my colleagues know that I don't want to receive a contract the day
before a Commission meeting and have it happen all over again where, you know, it's this rush.
We don't have time to read it properly and so forth, and then we miss things, and -- so that's why
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I'm bringing it up. I want to make sure we have two weeks. I want to make sure that, you know,
we have ample time to receive the contract and so forth and it's not this last-minute deal like it
seems we're always in. And l just want to start setting that precedence that I think, as a courtesy
to this Commission, we should have sufficient time to be able to read the contract. So thank you,
Madam City Attorney.
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