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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 2009-08-14 MinutesMINUTES OF BUDGET WORKSHOP OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ***** On the 14th day of August 2009, the Miami City Commission met at the historic Miami City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, in special session. The meeting was called to order at 2:16 p.m. by Chair Joe Sanchez, with the following members of the City Commission found to be present: Commissioner Marc David Sarnoff (District 2) Commissioner Joe Sanchez (District 3) Commissioner Tomas Regalado (District 4) ABSENT Commissioner Angel Gonzalez (District 1) Commissioner Michelle Spence -Jones (District 5) ALSO PRESENT: Pedro G. Hernandez, City Manager Julie O. Bru, City Attorney Priscilla A. Thompson, City Clerk Pamela E. Burns, Assistant City Clerk 1 August 14, 2009 Chair Sanchez: All right. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is a meeting for the budget workshop FY (Fiscal Year) 210 [sic] meeting. This is a public meeting, not a public hearing. This was called for us to be able to address our budget, and it is a budget workshop. So, at this time, I have been told that Commissioner Gonzalez might be joining us. I have been informed that Vice Chair Spence -Jones will not be here. So let's go ahead and get the workshop going. At this time, I'll recognize -- you're recognized for the record. Michael Boudreaux: Thank you. Mike Boudreaux, director, Management & Budget. Good afternoon, Commissioners. This year's budget workshop in preparation for the upcoming 2010 fiscal year is like no other fiscal year budget. The economic slowdown felt across the country along with the declining job and real estate markets felt here in the City will require a different approach in balancing the next year's fiscal year budget, an approach which will require the City of Miami to tighten its belt and make substantial fiscal decisions which will impact the lives of many City of Miami employees, while minimizing the impacts on the citizens of Miami who are still trying to recover from a tough economic environment. This is why the goal of the fiscal year 2010 budget is to provide a spending plan with no increase in the operating millage rate, no use of fund balance, and to attempt to minimize impacts on services to City residents. The focus of this year's budget workshop is to update you on the budget process, where we started, and what's to come in order to complete the budget process and provide a balanced budget, the revenues and expense outlooks for the next fiscal period, and highlighting the primary causes, and finally, the reductions necessary in order to balance the budget. Some of these reductions have been already included into the fiscal year 2010 budget proposal, but others will require the support and cooperation of everyone to meet the goals of next year's budget. The fiscal year 2010 budget process started on April 13, when the Budget Department provided City departments with their budget packages, outlined the issues affecting 2010 and later requesting all departments and outside agencies to provide budget reductions of 10 and 15 percent. Since that time, I have met with City departments to discuss their budgets, and the City Manager has also met with department directors to get an idea on how to reduce spending with minimal service impacts. As you are aware, on July 23, the operating millage rate was capped at 8.40000 mills, and since July 27 through today, I've been meeting with -- daily with -- 7 days a week with the Mayor, City Manager, and CFO (Chief Financial Officer) to discuss the budget. Today is the budget workshop, and after today's workshop, I will continue to meet daily with the Mayor, City Manager, and CFO, along with specific departments to finalize their 2010 budget. Also, request has been sent to have weekly meetings with each of you to discuss in detail the budget leading up to the first public budget hearing scheduled for September 10 at 5:05 p.m. and the second public budget hearing scheduled for September 24. Please remember that on or before September 30, 2009 the City is required to present a balanced budget to the Miami -Dade County tax collector, property appraiser, and the State of Florida Department of Revenues. I would like to first go over the revenue outlook for fiscal year 2010. The bar chart on the screen indicates the history of revenues and other financing sources in the general fund since fiscal year 2004. As you can see, between the periods of 2004 to 2007, the City realized growth in overall collections of 30 percent from 425.7 million in fiscal year 2004 to its peak of 553 million in fiscal year 2007. Collections began to slightly decline in fiscal year 2008 and have continued to decline in the current fiscal year with declines primarily in the areas of property taxes, interest, intergovernment -- and intergovernmental revenues. However, the City is also starting to realize more collections in building permit revenues and other charges for services. Overall, total 2 August 14, 2009 collections in fiscal year 2010 are anticipated to decrease 2.4 percent or 14.2 million under the projected FY '09 yearend total of 506 million and will be 6.4 percent or 33.6 million lower than the FY '09 adopted budget. The first primary reason for lower collections is due to less property tax collections anticipated in fiscal year 2010. The City should anticipate lower property tax revenues as a result of a 6.4 percent or $2.5 billion decline in gross taxable values between tax years 2008 and 2009 compared to a 1.6 percent increase in the prior year; $2.5 billion decrease, one year. Chair Sanchez: With a "B." Mr. Boudreaux: The budget for the next fiscal year is also being prepared with the operating millage rate at 7.6740 mills, which is the current approved millage rate. These two factors will result in an estimated 10.9 million in lower property tax revenues under the fiscal year 2009 adopted budget, to be collected by the City in fiscal year 2010. The next reason for the overall lower collections is due to interest revenues. Until this current fiscal year, the City realized total interest revenues of 11.1 million in fiscal year 2006, 16.2 million in fiscal year 2007, and 10.1 million in fiscal year 2008. The current fiscal year is projecting interest collections at a little over $3 million as a result of the market downturn experienced during the last quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009. It is anticipated that the same collections projected at fiscal year 2009 will also remain in fiscal year 2010 and will result in a $5.6 million in lower interest collections for next year. Other areas to be lower in fiscal year 2010 includes lower intergovernmental revenues as a result of less distributions from the State's municipal revenue sharing and half -cent sales tax programs, which are based on State estimates of these distributions, lower licenses and permit revenue, primarily due to the decline in building permit collections, which the first -- which the fiscal year 2010 budget anticipates 3.1 million in lower collections. The fiscal year 2010 budget will be balanced with no use of general fund balance, which $5 million was appropriated in the FY '09 adopted budget. And finally, lower collections from charges for services revenues, primarily as a result of less building inspection fees anticipated in fiscal year 2010. Commissioner Sarnoff: Have you broken out the lower intergovernmental revenues, what that number is separated from the 3.1 million? Priscilla A. Thompson (City Clerk): I'm sorry, Commissioner. Is your mike on? `Cause we can hardly hear you. Commissioner Sarnoff: Yeah. Did you break out the lower intergovernmental revenues? You have a number on that? Mr. Boudreaux: I did break out the intergovernmental revenues by category, and I have the different accounts that I can show to you, Commissioner. Commissioner Sarnoff: You don't know what it is off -- right --? Mr. Boudreaux: Let me pull it out right fast. Intergovernmental revenues, which is about 3.4 percent of the total budget, is estimated at 37.3 million for the entire category, compared to last 3 August 14, 2009 year. Last year -- I mean, the current projections are down where we're actually going to expect to collect about $36 million overall in the category, but that is lower than what we had anticipated in the adopted budget. The State has come back with its revised estimates, primarily in the areas of the revenue sharing program and the half -cent sales tax program. This is the second consecutive year that they have adjusted their estimates. It's primarily based on sales, and as sales adjust, they come back and they adjust the distributions to municipalities. Commissioner Sarnoff: I think I'm understanding you, and I want to make sure that I am. Right now, you're telling me that you had projected 37.3 million? Mr. Boudreaux: Yes. Commissioner Sarnoff: But you're only going to be collecting -- anticipated 36 million, which would be --? Mr. Boudreaux: Last -- well, at the end of this fiscal year, we're anticipating $36 million worth of -- those collections. However, the adopted budget has shown more, about 38 billion -- million dollars worth of collections from intergovernmental revenues. We had to go back and adjust that for fiscal year '09, so we're projecting lower collections from that, about 36 million. To continue with that trend, we did not show an aggressive increase in intergovernmental revenues for the year. We only show a slight increase to 37.3 billion -- million dollars for fiscal year '10. So as we were seeing more and more state distribution of the shared revenues, they have adjusted them and we've adjusted our estimates based on that. Commissioner Sarnoff: And this is a consumption tax, right? Mr. Boudreaux: This is a tax that's based on both the sales -- Commissioner Sarnoff: Right. Mr. Boudreaux: -- various sales in the state, and it's apportioned to all municipalities based on an apportionment factor. Commissioner Sarnoff: Okay. Commissioner Regalado: But because of the new Cash for Clunkers, the auto industry is going up in terms of sales, and that means that the state gets a bigger share. So in the revenue sharing adjustment, it could be more in the next three or four month [sic]. Mr. Boudreaux: Well, as the State constantly has done, they adjust their estimates and provide revised estimates. Now we start off with preliminary estimates, for which we project a 95 percent collection of their preliminary estimates. Now if some things would change in the state whereas they would realize more state sales, then of course they would revise their distribution to municipalities according to that. But right now, the information is showing that, you know, based on state estimates, we could expect about $37 million from this category. 4 August 14, 2009 Commissioner Regalado: Which is more than this year? Mr. Boudreaux: It's slightly more than the end of this year, but our end of this year is also lower than what we had started the year off with. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. Commissioner Sarnoff: What were your projections for this year? Mr. Boudreaux: Thirty-six million dollars for the category. I would like to now proceed to the expense outlook. As the chart indicates, total expenses and other uses have also increased between fiscal year's 2004 to 2007. Between these periods, total expenses and uses have increased 34.4 percent, with a peak of $578.8 million spent in fiscal year 2007. I want you to please note that the substantial increase between fiscal years 2006 through 2007 are primarily due to approved salary increases, which were mostly paid on a retroactive basis during that period. This total slightly declined to 556.1 million in fiscal years 2008 and is projected to be even lower in fiscal year 2009. These reductions in fiscal years 2008 and 2009 are primarily a result of reductions in operating expenses and not in personnel expenses. This is why the two primary reasons for the anticipated increase and total expenses and other uses in fiscal year 2010 are in salaries and pension -- salaries and related expenses in pension. Salaries and related expenses are anticipated to increase 11 percent, or $33 million, in fiscal years [sic] 2010 as a result of across-the-board increases scheduled for October 1, 2009. These across-the-board increases will provide a 5 percent pay increase to IAFF (International Association of Fire Fighters) members, a 3 percent increase to FOP (Fraternal Order of Police) members, and 3 percent increases to AFSCMEs (American Federal, State, County, and Municipal Employees) 1907 and 871 members, as agreed upon in each respective collective bargaining agreements. The effects of these across-the-board increases will also increase the payouts of various special pays, which occurs every fiscal year, most notably in the areas of vacation payouts, compensatory or earned time payouts, and will increase the rate of payment for salary incentive overtime. However, the fiscal year 2010 budget does not anticipate salary increases for unclassified, managerial/confidential, and executive positions, as these positions previously received increases as part of the City's Pay for Performance program. However, unclassified and managerial/confidential positions were provided with across-the-board increases in fiscal years 2008 and 2009, but are not anticipated to be provided these increases in the 2010 budget. The City's total pension costs are also anticipated to increase 56 percent, or $35 million, primarily as a result of previously agreed upon salary increases provided in prior years which were higher than the assumed rate and lower interest returns on pension investments due to poor performing markets. As a result, the City's annual pension contribution, based on actuarial evaluations as of September 30, 2008 and estimated at December 31, 2008, will increase 42.7 percent or $10 million for the GESE (General Employees Sanitation Employees) pension and GESE excess benefit plans, 61.6, or $22.8 million, on the FIPO (Firefighters Police) pension, which includes a $4.7 million payment to the FIPO COLA (Cost of Living Allowance), and 31.6, or $2 million increase, to the elected officials retirement trust. Please note that the full impact of the poor performing markets have not been fully realized in the fiscal year 2010 budget, but will most likely be indicated in the September 30, 2009 actuary reports for both the GESE and FIPO plans and will impact fiscal year 2011, most likely. 5 August 14, 2009 Commissioner Regalado: But they are doing the actuarial on -- based on the market performance on September -- last September, or will they adjust due to the higher market in the next month? Mr. Boudreaux: When the City receives its actuary report, it normally is on September 30, so factors that influence the changes to the actuarial assumptions are taken in consideration as of that date, and then any other factors are included in any subsequent actuarial reports. So with the market decreasing in the last quarter of 2008 -- mainly decreasing in the last quarter of 2008, the full effects of the market decline will not be fully realized until probably 2011, when we get the actuarial report as of the close of September 30, 2009. Commissioner Regalado: Yeah, but the market has turned around. Mr. Boudreaux: There is some hope. There is some hope that if the market does continue in its present track, that the decline will not be as traumatic. But, you know, once again, it will have to be something way over the 10,000 mark in order for us to realize any equilibrium from what has occurred in the last quarter and the first quarter of 2009. Chair Sanchez: I have a question pertaining to the pensions. In the last four years, how much has the taxpayers of the City of Miami paid towards the pensions? Mr. Boudreaux: It was -- the exact number, I don't have in front of me, Commissioner, but I do know there was a period of time before the actual market downturn that we were realizing some stability in year-to-year pension costs. Hold on one second. Let me get the number for you right fast. Chair Sanchez: To make it -- Mr. Boudreaux: And -- Chair Sanchez: -- easier for you, just give us the days where -- give us the years where the market did not do well. Mr. Boudreaux: Typically, the market did not do well after 9/11, of course. It took a lot of time to recover from that downturn, but we started -- the City had started to realize stability in year-to- year changes in the pension cost. As a matter of fact, the pension cost at some point was going down from one period to the next, so -- Chair Sanchez: Give me the years and how much the taxpayers have paid towards the pension cost. Mr. Boudreaux: I can -- I have information in front of me going back as far as fiscal year '06. I can give you more detail later, but I -- Chair Sanchez: Okay. Start in 206 [sic]. 6 August 14, 2009 Mr. Boudreaux: In 206 [sic], the City's actual pension cost was $78.9 million. The following year, it went down to $70.7 million. And then this last actual period, it went to $65 million. Chair Sanchez: And how much is it projected to be this year? Mr. Boudreaux: Total pension costs, to include all advances and everything else associated with the pension, $101 million. It doesn't take a lot of noise in which to change this cost. And, of course, the two major factors that increased that cost was, of course, the salary increases given to the members in the plan, which changes the assumption in the plan if it increases higher than that rate. And then, of course, the market. And as these two things have substantial changes, so does the cost on the City and also on the members `cause the members also have to take on that cost, so -- but, yet, the brunt of the cost is placed on the City because of the share for which the City has to take on. In order to balance next year's budget -- Commissioner Regalado: Before you -- Mr. Boudreaux: I'm sorry. Commissioner Regalado: -- go on, why is the -- increase on the elected officials is because of the market performance or --? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, we received earlier estimates from the Finance Department about the EORT (Elected Officials' Retirement Trust) and says -- and the information tells us, from Mercer, that we should expect at least a nine -- $1.9 million increase in that particular trust. Now the specific factors have not been completely provided to me yet, but we're still working on that particular information with the Finance Department as they finalize their actuarial review `cause we haven't received it at all, but I did receive preliminary information through Mercer, who does the actuarial report for the City, that we should expect at least a $1.9 million increase because of some information change in the plan itself. Commissioner Regalado: And how many people are participating in that? Mr. Boudreaux: In the EORT itself, I believe it's the current sitting Commissioners. Ms. Gomez. Thank you. Diana Gomez: Diana Gomez, Finance director. The EORT plan valuation has not been completed. It's actually done as of December 31. We have gotten an estimate that the payment for this fiscal 2010 will be approximately $1.9 million. Last year I believe it was around six hundred some thousand dollars. So the increase is $1.4 million roughly -- or $1.3 million. However -- and it is due to market conditions. Commissioner Regalado: But do we know how many persons are --? Ms. Gomez: Oh, I'm sorry. In the plan, there are -- it's about seven or eight. I can go back and get the exact numbers, if you'd like. 7 August 14, 2009 Commissioner Regalado: You do that? Ms. Gomez: Sure. Commissioner Regalado: Because it's just interesting because the salary increase of the members of the Commission didn't kick in until three or four years ago. Mr. Boudreaux: We're ready? Commissioner Regalado: Yeah. Chair Sanchez: Yes. Mr. Boudreaux: Okay. As a result of the lower anticipated collections and rising personnel costs, the following budget reductions are in progress and other reductions needs to be considered in order to balance next year's budget. These reductions include layoffs, elimination of positions, salary reductions on a tiered system, continue the hiring freeze in fiscal year 2010, no pay increases, no across-the-board increases, no anniversary and longevity increases, a 15 percent average reduction in departmental operating expenses in the area such as contractual services, reducing or eliminating travel, rentals and leases, promotional activities, advertising, office supplies, operating supplies, professional memberships, subscriptions, printing and binding, City -issued cell phone, Blackberry and air card services, fleet reductions, fleet reductions in 24-hour and take-home cars, departmental elimination and consolidation, reduce or eliminate contributions to outside agencies, eliminate contributions to nonprofit agencies, reduce or eliminate parks and recreation programs and services, reduce public work service, provide unpaid furloughs, reduce the purchase of vehicle replacement, with the exception of emergency vehicles and police fleet, tuition reimbursement programs, postpone or restructure bond sales, reduce yard waste collections, change to a single -stream recycling program, eliminate support to special events, require direct deposit of City employees, defer the living wage, which is mandatory as of the end of October, change the pension contributions or discuss changes to pensions contributions going forward, healthcare plan modification and redesign, eliminating special pays. In conclusion, the City of Miami fiscal year 2010 budget will need to be a barebones budget with no frills in order to balance it. I look forward to meeting with each of you over the next few weeks to go over the details of next year's budget as we prepare to present a balanced budget to the residents of the City of Miami at the first public budget hearing scheduled for September 10. At this time, if you have any questions, I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge. Chair Sanchez: All right. Commissioner Regalado: Twenty-seven options or twenty-seven actions that need to be done? Mr. Boudreaux: In order to balance this budget, it has to be a combination of each. One may net us a little bit more and may not require the actions of another, but in order for us to get this balance budget, Commissioner, we have to look at salaries, primarily salaries, because salaries are the issues that are creating the increase in the cost, and those related costs that connect to 8 August 14, 2009 salaries, such as, you know, group insurance, pensions, things like that that also increase costs from year to year. Commissioner Regalado: Question. Chair Sanchez: Go ahead. Commissioner Regalado: You have -- in the 27 options, you said something about operating expenses. Is [sic] that includes elimination of consulting? Mr. Boudreaux: That does include elimination of contractual services, which are normally tied to consultants, and professional services, which is also tied to consultant services. Commissioner Regalado: And, for instance, in Risk Management, we have employees, right, we have a department -- Mr. Boudreaux: Yes, we do. Commissioner Regalado: -- we have a department director, two assistant director [sic]? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, as of today, sir, we've actually eliminated one of those assistant director positions and proposing it for next year. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. So we have one director, one assistant director, employees, but we also have Gallagher Bassett that is a firm that works on the City building, and you have made like three payments of 1.5 millions [sic] each to that agency because they charge every time that they open a case. So, the question is, are we doubling the service because we do have a Risk Management -- Pedro G. Hernandez (City Manager): Commissioner, I think it would -- Mr. Boudreaux: Well -- Mr. Hernandez: -- be better, if I may, to have Leann Brehm answer that question. Leeann Brehm: Leeann Brehm, director of Risk Management. The Gallagher Bassett contract is a third -party administrator. A number of years ago, the adjusting of worker's comp and liability claims was outsourced. The department was reduced in size, and in order to revamp, to bring back any type of adjusting or any type of services that Gallagher Bassett is currently providing for us, we would have to basically -- my estimate would be hire eight to nine more adjusters, two nurses to handle the managed care and the case management of worker's comp claims. There would be a new case management software system that we would have to have. We have not had the services of in-house adjusting in approximately six years. So we are not -- Commissioner Regalado: So what you're saying -- 9 August 14, 2009 Ms. Brehm: -- fully staffed at this time to -- Commissioner Regalado: -- is that Gallagher Bassett is doing your job? Ms. Brehm: No, sir. They're doing the adjusting of worker's comp and liability claims, and we do not have those services in-house at this time. Commissioner Regalado: Right, but you have a staff. You have a staff in -- Ms. Brehm: I have a staff. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. And until today, you used to have two assistant director [sic]. Ms. Brehm: Yes, sir, I did. Commissioner Regalado: So that position was eliminated or the person quit? Ms. Brehm: The position -- the assistant -- Mr. Boudreaux: The position was eliminated. Commissioner Regalado: So I just want to understand because you have also a broker, right, that sells the insurance? Ms. Brehm: There is a broker for the property and casualty program. Commissioner Regalado: So you're saying that in order for the City to have your department run things, you need to hire more people? Ms. Brehm: Yes, sir. Commissioner Regalado: But how many -- how much money does that firm gets [sic] every year for the work? Ms. Brehm: The brokerage services? Commissioner Regalado: Yeah, the Gallagher Bassett firm. Ms. Brehm: A hundred and six thousand dollars is the amount of their current contract. Commissioner Regalado: A hundred? Ms. Brehm: A hundred and six thousand. Commissioner Regalado: But they charge for each case that they open, right? 10 August 14, 2009 Ms. Brehm: No, no. That's -- Oh, Gallagher Bassett? Commissioner Regalado: Yes, yes. Ms. Brehm: The contract for Gallagher Bassett is based on a per claim experience. So the total amount of the contract -- I don't have the number in front of me. I can get it for you, but -- is 1.5 million. Mike, maybe you can help me? Mr. Boudreaux: As far as the activity for -- Ms. Brehm: Just for the Gallagher Bassett. Mr. Boudreaux: As far as the insurance claim itself, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, Leeann, but I'm sure we could get back with you, Commissioners, with that number and that information. The breakdown of how much is provided to each one of these TPAs (Third -Party Administrators), or areas that they use in Risk, I do have that information, and I will definitely pass it along to you so you can see how much has been allocated for each one of these. Commissioner Regalado: Well, I think I have it, but I just want to understand what is the job of the department and the outside counsel and -- like, do we have consultants in-house or --? Ms. Brehm: The -- let me back up on the worker's comp contract costs. It includes the per - claim. The total contract works together with the claim amount -- with the individual claim payment. Gallagher Bassett, as the third -party administrator, takes over all of the adjusting of the claims. What my staff does is basically oversee. I have a claims manager that oversees the work that Gallagher Bassett does. I have a back -to -work assistant that is assigned to getting employees back to work as soon as possible after their injury. And we have an assistant that works with -- basically, from an administrative standpoint. That is what we have in-house for Risk Management. Please understand that included in Risk Management is my group benefits division, and that's one division. To manage the property and casualty, I have one person that oversees all of the contracts that come in on property and casualty and -- to review for insurance requirements, plus work directly with the broker on placing our property casualty coverage. Commissioner Regalado: Because, you know, this Commission had in -- throughout the years, look at Risk Management and I have look at Risk Management through the little information that I can get, and I just want to understand what -- how much money have we save since we may say we privatized Risk Management. That's -- that could be the word. The word could be privatize, right? Ms. Brehm: Yes. I can provide you with the past three years analysis from -- Commissioner Regalado: But do we -- Ms. Brehm: -- our claims experience. Commissioner Regalado: -- but do you know? I mean, do you sense that we have saved money? 11 August 14, 2009 Ms. Brehm: Oh, definitely. Definitely, there is a cost savings by doing it that way. We have a much more accurate system in adjusting the claims, oversight. Our indemnity payments currently are low. We have cut our worker's comp claims, in the past ten years, by 50 percent. According to the numbers that were given to me, in 1999 we had over 2,000 open claims in worker' s -- Commissioner Regalado: Yeah, but that's a job that the City Attorney does, and she brings -- now she has two staffers doing these cases, so -- Ms. Brehm: We definitely integrate closely with the City Attorney. We couldn't do it any other way. Commissioner Regalado: Well -- and I understand that. In my briefings with the City attorneys that do those case [sic], they say that they have to do the research. I thought that Gallagher Bassett was there to do the research and present to the City Attorney the cases that they're recommending that they close with a settlement. Ms. Brehm: The Gallagher Bassett adjustors do, in fact, do all the investigations on our claims. After the claims have been fully investigated both for liability and for worker's comp, if the case is not handled at the adjustor level and there is litigation that ensues afterwards, the adjustor will then turn over the investigative file to the City Attorney's office for the litigated matter. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. I just hope to have the information. And the reason is that like the end of this, everything is on the table, so it's important to analyze whether -- what is the best option; your staff, your department, or an outside firm? What is the best thing for the City? And to me, it's -- I cannot -- I don't understand why today you eliminate a position. I guess it's because of the budget, correct? Ms. Brehm: Yes. Commissioner Regalado: And -- but we knew that this was coming. We knew that we had a tough time, so it was eliminated today. Fine by me, but -- okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioner Sarnoff: You know, one of the things I did was just try to figure out where do we stand in comparison to other cities, other jurisdictions, other states, so I picked a few cities that I think we have something in common with, whether it's our size, our budget, regionally close, and how they're dealing with getting their shortfalls -- `cause I think everybody knows that there is shortfalls across-the-board pretty much in every state. I took city of Austin, for instance. They have a 1,600 -- $13 million budget. They have a $32 million shortfall. They decided to do 124 eliminations of job positions and they're furloughing their folks three days. Not too painful. City of Boston, they have a $2.38 billion budget, $130 million shortfall. The Mayor took a 3 percent cut, a one-year wage freeze, and essentially, they are eliminating 700 positions, of which 100 include teachers `cause they apparently include the teaching in their particular budget. Chicago, $6.2 billion budget, a $519 million shortfall; 141 elimination of positions. They're furloughed 24 days until 2011. Dallas, a $2.7 billion budget, a $190 million shortfall. They are 12 August 14, 2009 proposing cutbacks in salary of 20 to 30 percent. They are equally eliminating 840 positions, and there are currently 560 vacancies that will not be filled. City of Detroit has a $3.6 billion budget. It has a 275 to $300 million shortfall, and they have no plans how to fix that. Los Angeles -- and Los Angeles is worth talking about, so I'm going to come back to them as well. They have a $4.4 billion budget. They have a $530 million shortfall. They have between 400 to 2,800 employee positions that will be eliminated and 1,000 by vacancies. I'm going to come back to Los Angeles. Raleigh, North Carolina, has a $697 million budget. They are facing a $20 million shortfall, and they're going to eliminate 85 vacant positions. San Diego, California, has a $1.15 billion budget. They have an $83 million shortfall, and they are going to take 6 percent pay cuts together with their benefits. San Francisco has a $2.8 billion budget. They have a $438 million shortfall, and they have no present plans on how to deal with that. San Jose, California, they have an $880 million budget. They have an $85 million shortfall. They will be eliminating 982 positions, which they have been doing for a number of years. Seattle, $913 million budget, $43 million shortfall. They are going to do a 1.5 percent to 3 point -- percent department pay freeze and cuts. They're going to also do ten days of furloughs. And finally -- and I won't bore you -- there are a lot more cities. Washington, D.C. has a $7.8 billion budget. They have a $662 million shortfall. They're going to increase taxes by 6 percent. It was 5.75 percent. I'd like to read to you something that's written, and then I'll tell you what mayor wrote this. So we face a simple, but stark choice in closing an estimated $530 million deficit. To achieve this, my budget eliminates more than 1,000 vacant positions, trims less essential programs and services. These services and solutions alone will not balance the budget. In total, if no other action is taken, the remaining deficit would require the equivalent of 2,800 layoffs this year alone. I've already asked the personnel department to begin the process for approximately 400 of these layoffs. But layoffs of this magnitude and service cuts that they represent, in my view, are simply unacceptable. The full menu of options we pursue in partnership with city employees and the unions to save jobs and maintain services are listed in "Exhibit H" of my fiscal year 2009-2010 proposed city budget, and they include the following. If every employee just took one unpaid hour per week, we could save $52 million and prevent more than 580 layoffs. If each employee contributed just 2 percent more to our retirement benefits, we could save 63 million and prevent more than 700 layoffs. By simply deferring automatic pay raises, we could save 117 million and prevent 1,300 layoffs. Anybody want to take a guess what mayor said that? Antonio Villaraigosa, the mayor of Los Angeles. Now there're a lot of ways of cutting a deficit, but the big white elephant on the table here is we have an approximate $500 million budget, of which 400 million of that is salary compensation -- salary and compensation. There are 25 employees in the City of Miami that cost the taxpayers more than $300,000 per year. There are 223 employees that cost the City of Miami more than $200,000 per year. And essentially, the average City employee costs the citizens approximately $98,000 per year. That's the true white elephant that's on the desk right now. You could do what Broward County Sherrif s Office did, and they didn't have to lay off anyone. They did it through salary reduction and furloughs. They said we were going to act like a family. On the other hand, you could do it like Broward County has done it, and they have eliminated 1,000 positions and have laid off 400 people. I guess they didn't act like a family. Inevitably, we have decisions to make. We are either all in this together, we all act as partners, and we all realize that this budget got way too fat over way too many years, or we can all act our own self-interest, or as I like to call it, WIIFM, what's in it for me. That's the first thing somebody told me when I was running for office, remember WIIFM `cause anybody you meet is going to say what's in it for me. So if we act in our own self-interest 13 August 14, 2009 and nobody is willing to bend and nobody is willing to be a partner at this table, then expect layoffs. `Cause I could tell you a very simple way to close a $118 million budget. Layoff 1,018 people. You'll get there. Do it however you want. Or you could go about this a very smart way. Instead of asking for 15 or 20 percent or 25 percent pay reductions, which you're going to have to do, ask yourself what is the core services the City of Miami is expected to deliver. Ask yourself principally what it is the people really want from their City government versus what you want to give them. No longer can you afford, no longer should you provide, no longer is this about what you think the people want. You're at a skeleton budget, and that skeleton budget should very simply be the very essential services. I could suggest to you it's police `cause nobody got here with the expectation or thought that they were anything but safe. I could suggest to you it's fire -rescue because everybody here, when they believe they fall to the ground, wants to be resuscitated and wants to come back. I can to suggest to you, to some degree, it is a clean city. That's a tough one because we're probably going to have to have reduction to some degree to sanitation services. And everything else after that is in play. And the shame of it is, for every park program we cut, for every program dollar we cut, are we creating a crime? Are we putting a child who then has nothing to do but to go outside and find whatever's on the street? So are we in the same -- some respects, are we creating a bigger crime problem down the road? I'm sure there are those on the dais that would argue that, and it's a very persuasive argument. Equally, the elderly. This Commission decided that when murals went into effect, that we were going to do everything we could do to feed the elderly. I suggest to you that the four essential services for the City of Miami should be police, fire -rescue, feeding the elderly, and doing whatever we can do to keep our children occupied. After that, everything else should be in play. And instead of taking reductions, ask yourself, from a zero budget analysis, what is the essential service of the City of Miami? What essentially must a city do? `Cause there's Public Works out there -- and let me tell you something. People have an expectation when they pay a $15,000 property tax bill, that the neutral ground and the lawns that the City of Miami are expected to maintain are maintained. They expect to see a decorum in their government and a decorum in their public facilities. So we can be the Broward County Sherriff s Office or we can be Broward County; stark differences, stark realities. But if we act like we're all in this together and we all take a long, hard look and ask ourselves how is it that we can have 25 employees costing the taxpayers 300,000 a year? How is it we can have 223 employees costing the taxpayers 200,000 a year? How is it that the average employee can cost the citizens 98 to $100,000 per year? Think about this. The average citizen in the City of Miami earns $30,000 a year. We do not own -- for -- work -- I'm sorry -- we do not earn 42,000 or $45,000, like the County does. We're not that affluent. And ask yourself this, in closing. Is there another city that has a salary structure similar to Miami? `Cause there is. It's New York City, a city of 8 million people. We're a city, on our best day, of 420,000 people. Thank you. Chair Sanchez: You know, there are many cities besides us that are faced with this challenge today of coming up with a balanced budget, which is required by Florida Statute [sic] before September 30. I have not seen the numbers yet, as had been presented by the Mayor of the budget; so, therefore, what I have in front of me is a mathematical question missing some numbers. Well, I have not been able to come up with the numbers, but I can tell you this much. If you look at our budget and what we all can agree on that it's -- we're going to keep the 7.6 millage as -- we're going to have significant cuts in this budget. Now, no government should live beyond its means. We know that. What's shocking here is that for every dollar that comes into 14 August 14, 2009 the City, 80 cents of that dollar goes towards salary, pensions, and benefits. This City is being run by 20 cents. It is very simple. It is expenditures versus revenues. It's like balancing your checkbook in your house; you cannot spend more than what you have. The budget itself that is in front of us, that has been presented, which, once again, we don't know the numbers. I have been looking at it and going through it, and you know, I see that some of the recommendations to balance the budget, they're all things that we could control. In other words, you talk about layoffs, elimination of positions, salary reductions; those are things that cannot be controlled based on contracts. I want to know the assurance that we have from the Administration that if we don't get the unions to sit at the table to help us to resolve this issue, is the City going to be able to at least present to us -- and we'll decide on the budget, to balance it -- what number are you planning on getting close to with those numbers? Because, once again, I asked my colleagues, have you seen the numbers? Have you seen the budget that has been presented by the Administration? I have not seen it yet. So do you have a number close to that? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, as we continue to take a look at the current circumstances with the budget, we are trying, you know, as much as possible, to live up to the commitments that the City Commission has put forward, and that means keeping the millage rate at 7.674, not utilizing none of the City's general fund balance, and looking at every area to include cooperation with the unions and also other areas that we can control or not control so that we can try to get down to a balanced budget. Now, right now the preliminary numbers based on what we presented you for the millage rate cap show a 7.674 will effectuate somewhat close to a 118, but since that time, we have taken steps and we have now addressed most of that 118, which we will share in our individual meetings with each one of you to show you all the steps that have been taken up to the point and some of the options that we'd like to have considered going forward. Mr. Hernandez: Mr. Chairman, if I may, to add to what our budget director has said. We will present a budget based on a millage of 7.67. You will have that before you. It is predicated upon, I would say, a series of building blocks that will cover and balance the budget. The most significant one is departmental reductions. We have gone over the departmental budgets at least twice and we're going to do it again, and that will yield in excess of maybe 60 million. We're looking at block number two, and block number two deals with salaries, and that's a very significant area. Whether you do it via a tier reduction in salaries, whether you do it with furlough days or you do it with a combination of the two, whether you include no longevity increases and no merit increases, that block, if we apply it to the non -union personnel, will give us a certain amount that is small, but if we can apply it with the help of the unions to the full workforce, it will give us another 30 million. And beyond that, we have a series of strategies that will close and provide a balanced budget that you'll see as we go into our more detailed briefings. We're still working on determining and quantifying what each one of those strategies will yield, from some that are very insignificant, like, for example, having a direct deposit mandated, which will save, let's say, $50,000, to things of more significance. Chair Sanchez: Well -- Mr. Hernandez: You can rest assured that it will be based on a 7.67, and we're doing it trying to minimize the impact on staffing because we know that's the last alternative. However, I know 15 August 14, 2009 that there will be minimal impact to staffing. We're trying to maintain that at a minimal level. And our plan is to reduce government, and I've already started that action myself. Chair Sanchez: -- once again, I don't have those numbers and I -- my office has had to work with the materials that we've gotten. We're still waiting for some materials from your office to provide us so we could work along you and everyone who wants to help us balance the budget, but -- before I get to the pensions, let me just talk a little bit about the salaries that we talked about. Now, there's been talk about reducing the executive salaries, and you know, if we took the exec -- and I'm for reduction of salaries. We're going to have to deal with that to be able to balance the budget, as long as everything else is on the table; there are no sacred cows in this budget. But if we want to take the executives and made a commitment that salary would not be more than $100,000 for the executive in the City, that's only a savings of approximately about $4 million. Let me assure you, that's not going far enough `cause we need to come up with more money because the last thing that we want to do here is continue to pass the burden on to the taxpayers of the City of Miami. Now, if you look at the average salary of a City executive, which is about $137,000, there are a total of 112. Significant portion of those are the City Attorney, whose average is much higher than non City Attorney executives. That's a total annual cost of $15.3 million in those salaries. Now, not to pick on anybody `cause I looked at some of the departments and I had to do my homework, and the department that really got my attention was the Fire Department. The average annual salary of 133 fire lieutenants is $150,000. That's not including overtime, which is estimated to be 12.6, $12,600, per person. That's a total cost to this City of 12 -- $21.5 million. Now, the average annual salary of Fire executives is 243,000, not including overtime or fire chief, which there are 15 of them, and the average overtime is $26,000 per year. And fire captains, there's 61 of them. It's estimated at 29,000 per year, not to mention the take-home car. Now, the average salary for a Police executive is $159,000. That's almost $100,000 less than the Fire executives. Now, here's the alarming side of the salaries, if you want to compare it: 9 Fire employees make more than the City Manager; 47 Fire employees made more than the Mayor; 65 percent -- I'm sorry, 65, 10 percent of the Department of Fire employees make more than our CFO. That is alarming. Highest paid executives are those that we determine their compensation by the Commission. That is the City Attorney, the City Clerk, the auditor general, and their average pay is $273,000 per year. Now, the average Fire union employees' annual salary, all employees, including recent hires, is $125,000 per year; Police average is 78.6 per year; AFSCME (American Federal, State, County, and Municipal Employees), $56,200; and Solid Waste, an average of $41,400. The average annual salary of a firefighter is $102,000, not including overtime. The average salary -- annual salary of a police officer is $70,000 without overtime. Now, in fact, Fire and Police have almost equal number of rank officers; yet, Police have more than twice the number of officers compared to firefighters, and let me just touch a little bit on that. Police, their rank and file, they have 244 individuals, from lieutenant to chief, out of 900 officers. The Fire Department, rank and file, they have 223 lieutenants to chief [sic] to 419 firefighters. In some case [sic], one lieutenant oversees three firefighters. I just thought that it was important for you to compare. You know, they're both noble professions. I have the outmost [sic] respect for both of them. I was a police officer. But if you look at the comparison of the rank and file, that's something that needs to be looked at because it's really costing us a lot of money. That's just one department. I have not had an opportunity to look at all the departments because, basically, I'm still waiting for numbers from the Administration. All those numbers are gotten from the City employees list, which is based 16 August 14, 2009 on salary and based compensation. Now, the pensions, which you heard the numbers, and I just went back to 205 [sic]. If you go further than that, it's been costing the City much, much more in pension costs to the City of Miami. The pensions is [sic] the fatal wound that's bleeding this city to death, and we can no longer continue to put a Band-Aid on a fatal wound because that's all we do. We fix it for the next three or four years and pray that someone else is going to come along and fix it. We cannot continue to pass this responsibility to others when the voters of Miami elected us to solve that problem, and it is our responsibility, yet salary is a problem; pension is a big problem not only for our city, but for many, many cities. Today starts the process, at least for us because -- well, not yet because we haven't gotten the numbers, and I'm still waiting for those numbers. But it will be important, as we lay the foundation, that we say that we're drawing the line on the sand to make sure that we fix this problem to make sure that whoever may be the next Commissioner here or whoever may be the next Mayor here, it is a problem that we could solve because you know what? We jeopardize other employees that are here. And as we speak here today, I'm saddened that we don't have a full representation of the Commission on such an important responsibility that we have to balance the budget, and I could say that I have been here for about 11 years. This is the toughest budget that we'll have to face, and if we don't do it right, then all we're doing is jeopardizing the future of this city, and this is just the start. So I just wanted to put that because everything is on the table, Mr. City Manager. And since this is a meeting that I cannot direct you to do anything, I think it is important that this Commission start a process to cure this wound, and the first step is that I think that it is paramount that you and the City Attorney start process to reopen the Gate settlement, which I think it's important. It's the first step in the right direction. I think it is important for you to sit with the fire chief and review the Fire Department's structure because I believe it is too top-heavy and come back with a recommendation. Hopefully, there'll be an agreement. And I think, today, based on the numbers that I have, it's a step of many that I will be proffering to you to try to solve this problem that we cannot continue to exist in this city. So having said that, I think that -- Commissioner Regalado: Mr. Chairman. Chair Sanchez: Before I recognize you, Commissioner, I'm also going to be -- ask the City Manager to schedule another workshop. At that time, we should have the numbers because it really puts us in a very awkward situation here. It is our responsibility, but still, I don't have those numbers. I have even asked for an inventory of all our fleet cars, whether they have three wheels, two wheels; whether they move or they don't move. I want to know who drives that car and who takes it home; whether it's 24 or 7. Do they have the right to take that car home? Who uses it? How much fuel they put in that car? And still, I have not gotten that information. I played an important role here in this budget such as -- and all of us Commissioners do, to work with the Administration because you know what? If you don't provide me the information at the end of this budget process, don't expect a vote from me. Mr. Hernandez: Commissioner, we'll make that information to all the Commissioners. As a matter of fact, I've been working with GSA (General Services Administration) on updating it because our direction is to, in essence, reduce the fleet. The challenge that we have at this point is to reduce it by 250 vehicles, and Kelly Barket, from GSA, is working on that right now; and as soon as I get it, I'll have it in your hands. 17 August 14, 2009 Chair Sanchez: But, Pete -- Mr. City Manager, with all due respect, in this meeting that we have here today, those that are present, if I ask you a question, it is not to put you on the spot, and if I do, I truly apologize. But if I asked anyone how many cars do we have in the City -- they're not our cars; they're taxpayers' cars -- we should have a number. I have not gotten that number yet. Mr. Hernandez: The number is 1,960, plus or minus. Chair Sanchez: Are those all the cars that are operable, nonoperable? Mr. Hernandez: For that, I would rather give you the inventory. And in essence, our direction, as a result of this no -frills budget, is to take away as many 24-hour assignments as we can, if not all, take away cars; reduce the fleet because that will give us, you know, less repairs and less tires and less fuel, and we can get rid of those cars, and that, in itself, will be -- we are quantifying that savings to be in the vicinity of maybe a million and a half. That's one of our many line items that we need in order to achieve the balanced budget. But I'll give you -- I'll provide to you and all the Commissioners the up-to-date inventory. Chair Sanchez: Also, one more request that you could help me with. I want to know exactly who's included and what's included in the special comps with all the benefits that are given. I haven't figured that out. I mean, just by waking up in the morning, you get a percentage. So I need to figure that one out. Mr. Regalado, you're recognized for the record. Commissioner Regalado: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mike said that you have been meeting seven days a week with the Mayor -- Mr. Boudreaux: Yes, sir. Commissioner Regalado: -- the City Manager, and the CFO. Have the unions been at that meeting? Mr. Boudreaux: Not at this time, sir, no. Commissioner Regalado: What is "at this time"? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, we would hope that, I think -- Mr. Hernandez: Michael, I think you'll -- you better let me answer that one. Mr. Boudreaux: Okay. Mr. Hernandez: In talking to the unions, the unions want us to be able to show them the numbers before they will take any steps, and we are almost at that point where I can sit down with all the unions and show them the numbers so that they can then help and participate. Up to now they're saying "Oh, we're willing to help, but we can't do anything until we see what you have." We will be able to provide them that information very soon. 18 August 14, 2009 Commissioner Regalado: Yeah. But let me see if I understand this. The union seems to be part of the problem, but they have to be part of the solution; otherwise -- I mean, I fully support the Gates case being reopened, but for that we need the votes of the unions and going to court, and this is going to be -- it will not be possible before the budget process ends in September 30. So if you guys are discussing -- and you know, something that you said triggered this question because if you guys are discussing options -- and the Chairman is right; we don't know anything about numbers -- but if you discuss option, shouldn't be the unions include in that table to discuss options? I mean, it makes sense, right? Mr. Boudreaux: Yes, it does. Commissioner Regalado: Yes, it does. Fine. So my question is how many times have you met formally or informally with the unions, Mr. Manager? Mr. Hernandez: I met with both unions about maybe three, four weeks ago and told them exactly that we needed help from them. Commissioner Regalado: Okay, emergency. Remember, no cell phones allowed in City chamber [sic]. Okay, so, Mr. CFO, would you think that meeting with the unions, you can participate in --? Sorry. Mr. Spring: I just wanted to say that he's on the phone with the Commissioner, so that's why he took the call. Commissioner Regalado: No, no. I mean, it's okay. I mean, the other thing is -- and, Mr. Manager, don't worry about it; I'll direct the question to you. You just said that you have been able to resolve the 118 figure -- not resolve, but change. How did you change -- what steps were taken yesterday, this morning, two days ago to reduce the 118 alleged proposed deficit? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, one of the things that we stated as we were meeting with the Mayor, City Manager, CFO on a 24-hour -- almost 24-hour basis, it feels like, going over every individual line item of each budget, looking at all of their positions, vacant positions mainly, and seeing whether these positions need to be maintained for the next fiscal year, and at the same time eliminating these vacant positions mainly as a result. Also, looking at their line item budgets in detail, looking at what's inside the line item and seeing whether or not some of these operating expenses are needed. Commissioner Sarnoff: That's not the question. On the vacant positions, how many vacant positions has the City of Miami carried for six months or more? Is there like an estimate you could give me? Do you follow my question? Mr. Boudreaux: Yeah. I would say out of the total estimated 4,000 positions that the City has, about -- on average, about 300 positions that remain vacant (UNINTELLIGIBLE) year. Commissioner Sarnoff: So -- 19 August 14, 2009 Mr. Boudreaux: On average, in and out. Commissioner Sarnoff: Pretty assuredly that that, correct me if I'm wrong, is about $30 million? Mr. Boudreaux: That is correct. Commissioner Sarnoff So -- there's an old saying, if we haven't missed Mr. Smith in six months, let's not pay him. Mr. Boudreaux: If Mr. Smith had that position, correct. Commissioner Sarnoff: Correct. So we're $30 million in what I call not very painful cuts. Mr. Boudreaux: Well, we've done what we can do up until this, you know, moment here, Commissioner, where we can look at areas that we can do immediate reductions to and we've taken those steps. We've taken a look at each department. We've taken a -- what the department has already considered in the initial reductions request that we would -- they provided us, and we've gone even a further step by looking at each individual line item. Commissioner Sarnoff: And I apologize, Commissioner. I'll give it back -- the floor. Commissioner Regalado: No, no. That's okay. Commissioner Sarnoff: But have you -- see, the thing that always worries me -- and it's a philosophical way of looking at things -- everybody likes to start with a haircut. You know, let's cut this guy's hair five inches, four inches, three inches, and that's considered budget cutting. Have you ever thought of how are we going to grow hair? And what I mean by that is instead of cutting, building your budget from the ground up. What are your essential positions --? Chair Sanchez: Zero -base budgets. Commissioner Sarnoff Right. There are -- it's called zero -base budgeting. Have -- are you looking at all doing it that way? What are the -- Public Works, what are the essential things Public Works does? Parks, what are the essential services Parks give? Police and Fire are a little bit easier. Although, you know, I certainly share the concerns that have been expressed up here, but the other budgets -- or the other departments, what are the essential services that they give and who gives those services? Mr. Boudreaux: Well -- Mr. Hernandez: Commissioner, I think that you're totally right, and we have been, in essence, getting to that approach by going back in years and seeing how we used to do things before when we had less revenues, and also trying to -- well, trying to justify or try to identify the core mission of the Public Works Department, the core mission of GSA, the core mission of Solid 20 August 14, 2009 Waste and make sure that those core missions for each one of those departments is addressed so that helps us being be able to cut back. Commissioner Sarnoff And Mr. Manager -- and I'll be done. I don't want to take too much time -- what always worries me is when somebody says "You know what? I'm going to go look what my 2002 budget looked like `cause I'm going to get it to my 2002 budget," and all that does is cover up mistakes, whereas -- I think what Commissioner Sanchez was saying, start at a zero - base budget. Mr. Hernandez: Right. Commissioner Sarnoff Find out the core mission of Public Works. We know we have to cut 300 lawns a month. You know you need so many people to cut that. I want them as employees, I don't want them as employees, I prefer to have -- out -service them, whatever it is you're going to do and how you've determined the best way to do it. It just seems to me by going back in time to a budget cycle, you can cover up mistakes versus revealing them at zero -base budget. Mr. Hernandez: We sort of did that in order to get some guidelines as to where we were just to get an idea. But your approach is the correct approach to be sure that we do the core mission. If I may, Commissioner Regalado, I profusely apologize. Just a few minutes ago -- first time that this happened to me in three -plus years. It was Commissioner Gonzalez, and he was telling me that he'd just gotten to his house from a medical test and wanted to be sure that you knew and the people here knew that he was having these medical tests that were very significant, and he couldn't make it here; otherwise, he would have been here, and he wanted me to state that on the record. Commissioner Regalado: No. And we know that. And if I may, just to finish. Commissioner Sarnoff: I yield. It's your floor. Commissioner Regalado: And, you know, we know that Commissioner Gonzalez is dedicated. And last time he couldn't be here because of illness. But going back to the 118, it really stuck in my mind what you said -- a phrase that you said, that during these meetings, you have been able to reduce the 118 figure. Is that what you meant? Mr. Boudreaux: Well, the 118 -- yes, this is what I meant. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. Mr. Boudreaux: The 118 figure when -- initially was the deficit that the City was facing, of course, that included department spending and having the same number of positions, same number of operations size, everything. So we've now taken a look at that and said, okay, well, what do we need in order to keep this budget balanced and at the same time minimize impacts on departments. And in doing so, we took a look at each position, maybe not looking at it from a zero -base basis, but taking a look at them from a core basis and saying well, what are their core services, what are they required to do, what are their -- needing to do, what does the City need 21 August 14, 2009 them to do, and focusing our attention on those areas, looking at positions that these departments have and seeing whether or not we can scale back on these positions. Commissioner Regalado: But, Mike, my question is without Commission action, you said that you have been able to reduce the 118. Can you tell us -- doesn't have to be exact -- where are you now in deficit in terms of millions and numbers after that you have been able to reduce? I guess that you cut today. You just said that the person was -- a position was eliminated, so I'm sure that if you do -- if you did that, Mr. Manager, in one department, you have done that in other departments today. Is that correct? Mr. Hernandez: Yes. And -- Commissioner Regalado: Okay, because only one person doesn't get the ax. Mr. Hernandez: No. Commissioner Regalado: So how many today, for instance? Mr. Hernandez: Well, what I have done -- as I said before, there is no way that this budget can be balanced without a minimal impact, and I consider a minimum impact to fill positions. I've taken the initiative to start reducing the Administration, the executive, unclassified, managerial/confidential, nonunion employees. I've reduced it already by 13, and I have another similar number coming soon. Commissioner Regalado: So it's 13. So that's what you mean, 13 new layoff, which is 13 savings, and that is what you meant when you said that you have been able to today reduce the 118 deficit, right? Mr. Hernandez: Well, Commissioner, it's not really today. I think that -- a little while ago, I spoke about two big blocks, and I know that we have many more strategies that will get us to the 118, no doubt. They're not easy, they're not simple, but we know that we can do it, except that some of them have still to be quantified as to how much can be expected for each one of them to yield, and that's what we're still working on. But we know that be a combination of all different strategies from the small ones to other more significant ones, but it can be done. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. Chair Sanchez: All right. Commissioner Regalado: Okay. Chair Sanchez: Any further questions? Commissioner Regalado: No. Chair Sanchez: If not -- 22 August 14, 2009 Commissioner Regalado: When is the new -- the next, Mr. Chairman --? Mr. Hernandez: If you want to, Commissioner, I'll contact the other Commissioners and work with your office to set the date. Chair Sanchez: And our office will send a memo out setting another workshop. Mr. Hernandez: Yes. Chair Sanchez: Hopefully, by then we should have maybe another number added to that mathematical equation so we could sum it up. Mr. Hernandez: Thank you, sir. Chair Sanchez: All right. The workshop is in recess. Thank you. Good evening. Have a good weekend, everyone. 23 August 14, 2009