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MIAMI-DADE COUNTY
SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING & ZONING
Wednesday, February 16, 2006
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APPLICATION
SDRC 05-16
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE
Lucia Dougherty, Esq.
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2 MS. DOUGHERTY: Mr. Chairman, with
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your permission, Gil Pastoriza, so that we
can do the Miami Herald site plan, if
that's okay with you all.
MR. PASTORIZA: They just want to go
first. She's got to go.
THE CHAIR: Very nice of you.
Let's move an to the next parcel one.
Mr. Avila, do you have a staff
report?
MR. DAVILA: I do, Mr. Chairman.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Which parcel
are we doing first?
MR. DAVILA: This is parcel one.
This application bear with me a second
here.
MS. DOUGHERTY: In all of our
presentations, just by way of -- all of
our presentations to the city, we've done
them together, because they are sort of
companion items, although they are two
Major Use Special Permits and two
different projects, but in order to not
make it disjoint, you may want us to
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1 City c%dal l y present the entire site to you
2 together, because it's the entire
3 waterfront, although two projects. If
4 you'd like us to do that, we can make two
5 -- one presentation instead of two.
6 THE CHAIR: That makes sense to us.
7 BOARD MEMBER: Yeah, let's do it all
8 together.
9 THE CHAIR: Do it as short as
10 possible.
11 MS. DOUGHERTY: Yes, sir.
12 MR. DAVILA: What we have before you
13 today --
14 THE CHAIR: Since you're in a hurry.
15 MR. DAVILA: These are two projects
16 located within the City of Miami. It's
17 actually the 1 Herald Plaza site abutting
18 Biscayne Bay between Venetian Causeway and
19 the McArthur Causeway. The applicants are
20 proposing to keep the existing printing
21 press facility, which is located in the
22 center of the site, and present two new
23 towers that are going to go on the north
24 and south portion of this property. These
25 towers, of course, are residential
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2 of either tower or both towers for retail.
3 The future development of the site,
4 of the printing press site, will contain
5 additional minor retail sites directly to
6 the south of the printing press building,
7 but that is to be reviewed in a future
8 application.
9 Before you, like I mentioned, you do
10 have residential developments that are
11 abutting Biscayne Bay, and therefore a
12 deferral to the applicant to provide us
13 more detail (inaudible) detail.
14 THE CHAIR: Are they asking for
15 anything from the Board, any variances?
16 MR. DAVILA: To our understanding,
17 these two projects have been found to be
18 acceptable. The only issue, of course,
19 was some of the passive areas were found
20 to be unacceptable because this
21 information was lacking from print,
22 however, that can be provided on the
23 application. It should be a condition for
24 approval, as well (inaudible) shown
25 defining the original site plan, the
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well. So in this respect, staff has no
real objection to this application and
indeed recommends in favor of it, subject
to the standard conditions we have
illustrated in our recommendation.
THE CHAIR: Okay. Thank you.
MS. DOUGHERTY: Again, Lucia
Dougherty, offices at 1221 Brickell
Avenue, here today with Javier Avino, as
well as our architect, Luis (inaudible)
and our landscape architect, Steve Leftin.
So this is an interesting site,
because -- and it's a very difficult site,
in that the printing presses remain and
they are going to be remaining for -- you
know, ad infinitum. They're not going
anywhere. The Miami Herald just put in
several million dollars to upgrade it and
to put the facilities. So while this
building to the north, which is adjacent
to the Venetian Causeway, still must
maintain a circulation for the trucks, who
are going to deliver papers, and they're
going to continue to deliver papers even
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sides, so that was a challenge and I think
that Luis and Steve did a fantastic job in
terms of integrating and working printing
press operation with residential and
commercial space.
Directly to -- even though this is
not part of our application and not part
of this ownership, to the west, is going
to be a retail proposal, that's not part
of this application, and then, of course,
to the south of the printing press is this
new proposed residential tower, and in
between you'll see a wonderful, open plaza
area that now Luis is going to describe to
you, Luis and/or Steve.
MR. LEFTIN: I'll start with the
plaza area. We've been working closely
with Luis. His office really deserves all
the credit for I think what's truly
important in the alignment.
As Lucia just said, there are two
buildings, the printing press. There's
the southern -- excuse me, the northern
tower and the southern tower and this
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1 City C1 l y prominent open space in between is
2 aligned along the termination of 14
3 Street, which is incredibly important,
4 because 14 Street is the northern edge of
5 the PAC. So when you come out of the
6 Performing Arts Center and you're walking
7 through Downtown, hopefully going to the
8 shops and the restaurants that PAC is
9 going to bring, this will be your eastern
10 terminus of your view and hopefully a
11 place where people will gather as the PAC
12 and what they call the super block program
13 for street scape is in place, this will
14 be, we believe, the logical conclusion to
15 that whole area of Downtown. So the
16 siting of the buildings was very important
17 in terms of how that worked.
18 And we envision this as a very urban
19 space, with a very playful landscape in
20 these sort of ribbons, and these berms and
21 bringing back the sort of iconic elements
22 that are playful in terms of the lighting
23 and sculpture from some of the
24 architecture that's existing on the site.
25 We have a (unintelligible) that's very
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consistent with this climate right
along the water's edge.
Something we'd like to do, and that's
why it's in our application and it's
really not so much in our control, but it
is in DERM's, is we'd like to take where
the line is right now and carve in and
actually bring the water into the site a
little bit, so when you look in each
section, there's actually an opportunity
for people to step down and engage the
water in a way you really can't along the
shoreline right now. Our bay walk is, of
course, continuous.
We tried to treat the whole site,
although there are two applications in
front of you, as one, in the language that
we've used in the design of the plaza area
and the iconic elements that are scheduled
throughout, as well as the street scape
that kind of bind this entire street,
which is a very important connection to
Omni, which is also another future
redevelopment site, and a break here and
our canopy trees. We'll use a cluster of
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what's going to be a very important public
space.
Usual suspects, lighting, bollards,
all those things have been provided.
We're trying to be very much in keeping
with the sort of public art and
contemporary look that is being
proposed
THE CHAIR: Could you put that up.
MR. LEFTIN: Sure, I'm sorry. That's
being proposed for the super block area in
terms of the lighting and the bollards.
It's very crisp, very elegant.
I've got some other blow-ups, if
there's any detail that you'd like to see,
but, essentially, this is the site plan
for the actual two separate applications
we do have an enlargement of the south
tower and the north tower.
THE CHAIR: Could you stand that up
for us, please?
MR. LEFTIN: Sure. Yeah, they're
prettier than I am.
THE CHAIR: Lucia, have you
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marina?
MS. DOUGHERTY: Yes.
THE CHAIR: How impossible is that?
MS. DOUGHERTY: Impossible. We would
love to do that. Biscayne manatee, et
cetera.
THE CHAIR: It sounds like it's a
perfect place to put boats. It's probably
all dead anyway.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Tell that to
DERM.
MS. DOUGHERTY: One of the things we
are -- one of the things we are going to
do, we're going to try to move the tower.
THE CHAIR: The little tower, isn't
it taller than that? It looks like -
MS. DOUGHERTY: That is an
architectural depiction of what we'd like
it to look like.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: This is
actually an artist depiction of --
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: So what does
that tower do again?
THE CHAIR: Could you put a tongue
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2 make that thing -- can you push that
3 little bridge over so it's coming down 14
4 Street into the water?
5 MR. LEFTIN: This guy here?
6 THE CHAIR: Yeah.
7 MR. LEFTIN: He sits right about
8 here, and this is where it is right now.
9 THE CHAIR: It's not pretty
10 significant thing, if you can line it up.
11 MR. LEFTIN: It's akin to rebuilding
12 it. I mean, our hope is that we'll be
13 able to remove the tower and you can keep
14 it (unintelligible), which is going to be
15 challenge enough as it is.
16 FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Remove the
17 tower?
18 MS. DOUGHERTY: It's a cell tower.
19 LUIS: If we do that, what happens is
20 that then, if we cannot take the tower
21 out, the tower will be kind of the focal
22 point at the end of our trees.
23 THE CHAIR: So what?
24 BOARD MEMBER: I think we just light
25 it up in Christmas.
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of the rainbow?
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: What I think --
THE CHAIR: I mean, what do you look
at across, the cruise ships? I mean, what
are you looking at?
MR. LEFTIN: It's open space.
THE CHAIR: On 14 Street?
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Why don't you
guys look at this from this angle?
Instead of looking at the tower, the cell
tower as a problem, look at it as an
opportunity to have a design competition
worldwide for all sculptors to come up
with innovative aesthetics for cell
towers. I tell you this, because this is
a problem nationally. Every neighborhood
on the planet wants to get the cell tower
out of their neighborhood.
And one of the things that California
has done is they've had these design
competitions to get architects to design
architecturally -- you know, although, I
think, personally, the cell towers look
kind of cool, but then, again, I like
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consider that as an opportunity, and then,
you know, you move it or you don't move
it, depending on how that works with your
design, you know. I mean -
MS. DOUGHERTY: You wouldn't like
this cell tower. It's an old, ugly one.
BOARD MEMBER: What she's proposing
is to actually convince the Herald to
spend money, whoever needs to spend the
money, to redesign the tower.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Make it a
competition.
THE CHAIR: I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
guys, I'm going to move that we approve
this application.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: Okay, I second
it.
BOARD MEMBER: We're getting excited
about your idea of moving the tower.
THE CHAIR: Any discussion? Any
discussion?
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: There's only
do you guys want to bring the water more
towards -- this is just a question. I
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THE CHAIR: Then we're in discussion
in the Board. I'd just like to vote and
get out of here, if you don't mind.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: You want to do
that? Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We've got a
motion and a second. All in favor?
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: I said second,
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: All in favor,
say aye.
ALL BOARD MEMBERS: Aye.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Opposed?
THE CHAIR: Thank you. Oye, send her
an e-mail, send Gladys an e-mail. Get
here early next time, and keep your
chatter down. You get here an hour and
half earlier, you can talk all you want.
Very nice building. Sorry you
couldn't burn the presses while you were
at it. Just a Herald comment.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: I want to know
how they get (unintelligible).
THE CHAIR: That was off the record.
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Lucia, she did a great presentation.
MS. DOUGHERTY: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Okay, moving
right along, now we're going to come back
to the Electra Bay, located at 3535
Hawatha Avenue (phonetic).
(Thereupon, there was no further
discussion on Item 05-16. The next item
heard was Item No. 05-15).
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CERTIFICATE OF REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL
REPORTER AND FLORIDA PROFESSIONAL REPORTER
STATE OF FLORIDA:
SS:
COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE:
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I, Lorena Ramos, RPR & FPR, do hereby
certify that I was authorized to and did
transcribe TAPE RECORDED PROCEEDINGS of the
February 16, 2006 Shoreline meeting, to the
best of my ability.
I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a
relative, employee, or attorney, or counsel of
any of the parties, nor am I a relative or
employee of any of the parties' attorney or
counsel connected with the action, nor am I
financially interested in the action.
DATED this 8 day of November 2006
at Miami -Dade County, 1oOida.
ORENA RAMOS, COURT REPORTER
(Transcript from tape recorded
Proceedings)
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