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SUBJECT
TWO TIER GOVERNMENT STUDY- PRESENTATION BY TOUCHE ROSS
AND COMPANY.
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO PROVIDE
DISTRICT ELECTIONS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
"GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS" PROGRAM - PRESENTATION BY THE
OFFICE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
DISCUSSION OF THE RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM COST SAVING
MEASURES - POLICY STATEMENT BY CITY COMMISSION.
SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL AND AMENDMENT #2 TO THE
EXISTING CONCESSION AGREEMENT; DISCUSSION OF THE
SCOREBOARD.
RECEIVE SEALED BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF "COCONUT GROVE
BUSINESS AREA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4408".
AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF CONDITIONAL BUILDING PERMIT TO
PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF THE CARDIOLOGY LEARNING CENTER
AND SIMULATION LABORATORY AS PART OF THE NATIONAL
CHILDRENS' CARDIAC HOSPITAL OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI
SCHOOL OF MEDICINE.
PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, PLAGUES AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION -
RELATED MATTERS.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE BY
CONCERNING FIVE MEMBER
COMMISSION.
SALE BEER IN ORANGE BOWL AND
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL STEINBERG
APPOINTED PUBLIC SERVICE
PUBLIC HEARING - APPROVE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING FOR FISCAL YEAR 78-79.
COMMUNITY EDUCATION ADVOCATES UPDATE ON THE ACTIVITY
AND PROGRESS IN THE 13 COMMUNITY SCCOOLS OPERATING IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI.
DEFER CONSIDERATION ON THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCE #6945,
CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS; REQUEST MANAGER TO
NOTIFY INTERESTED PARTIES.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE REGULATING PLACEMENT
OF BUS BENCHES; DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO RE -ADVERTISE
FOR BIDS AND TO INCLUDE C-1 AND C-2 DISTRICTS.
COMMUNITY EDI:ATION ADVOCATES UPDATE ON THE ACTIVITY
AND PROGRESS IN THE 13 COMMUNITY SCHOOLS OPERATING IN
THE CITY OF P'IAMI - CONTINUATION.
DEFER CONSIDIRATION OF ORDINANCE REGULATING PLACEMENT
BUS BENCHES; DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO RE -ADVERTISE FOR,
BIDS AND TO INCLUDE C-1 AND C-2 DISTRICTS.
AMEND SECTIOA 39-24 OF THE CODE GOVERNING ORANGE BOWL
STADIUM PARKING CHARGES - FIRST READING,
REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE PROBLEMS EXPERIENCED
BY PERSONS IN WHEELCHAIRS VIEWING THE GAMES AT THE
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM,
gI NANCE Ofj
SOLUTION
DISCUSSION
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DISCUSSION
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DISCUSSION
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PRESENTATIONS
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DISCUSSION
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REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF
IMPLEMENTING A "CONSENT AGENDA" TO EXPEDITE CITY
COMMISSION MEETINGS.
20. AMEND SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8716, THE ANNUAL
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE - COCONUT
GROVE BUSINESS AREA DECORATIVE PEDESTRIAN -SCALE STREET
LIGHTING.
21. AMEND SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719, THE SUMMARY GRANT
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY REDUCING CONTRIBUTION TO
AFRICAN SQUARE PARK TRUST & AGENCY FUND $61,991 FOR
CETA POSITIONS.
22. AMEND SECTIONS 1 & 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8731, THE ANNUAL
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION
FOR THE MELREESE GOLF COURSE ENTERPRISE FUND BY $10,000.
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EMERGENCY ORDINANCE - PROVIDE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE
TO RETIREES.
24. AMEND SECTIONS 1, 2 & 5 OF 8731, THE ANNUAL
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY INCREASING APPROPRIATION FOR
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY $23,959 FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TRANSFERRING THREE POSITIONS FROM THE DEPT. OF COMPUTERS
& COMMUNICATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPT.
25. AMEND SECTIONS 1 & 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8731, THE ANNUAL
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY INCREASING APPROPRIATION FOR
ENTERPRISE FUNDS, ORANGE BOWL BY $100,000 TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ORANGE BOWL PRESS BOX.
APPROVING STATION GROUP FIVE RAPID TRANSIT STATIONS AND
URGING ADOPTION OF SAID SITES BY THE DADE COUNTY
COMMISSION.
28. URGE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION TO PROVIDE FOR JOINT PRIVATE
AND PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN RAPID
TRANSIT STATION SITES.
29. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LOWELL-DUNN COMPANY FOR;
VIRGINIA KEY FILL PHASE III AND AUTHORIZE FINAL PAYMENT
OF $5,746.75.
30. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - BUENA VISTA COMMUNITY DEVELOP-
MENT PAVING PROJECT PHASE II - BID "B" DRAINAGE.
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ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - SOUTH GROVE BICYCLE PATH
MODIFICATION.
ACCEPT HIGHWAY PURPOSE DEED OF DEDICATION 5300 N. W.
2ND AVENUE.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE PROPERTY IN LIEU OF
CONDEMNATION 1115 S. W, 2 AVENUE.
34, AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE PROPERTY IN LIEU OF
CONDEMNATION; 1131 S. W. 2ND AVENUE,
35. MOTION OF INTENT; NO PERMIT OT DEMOLISH "FREEDOM TOWER"
WITHOUT CONSENT AND REVIEW OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
DISCUSSION
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER
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TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT: MERCY
FIREFIGHTERS PHYSICAL EXAMINATION R- 78-461
TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT: MIAMI-
DOWNTOWN CAMPUS USE OF BASEBALL
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT: ACCEPT 18
GOLF TEE CONSOLES FOR BOTH GOLF COURSES.
39. WAIVE RENTAL FEES: LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER
"TARDE DE ESTRELLAS" LATIN VARIETY SHOW NOV. 19, 1978.
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO REQUIRE TENANTS: PIER 5 - TO
VACATE BERTHS OCTOBER 19 THROUGH OCTOBER 26 EXPOSITION
CORP. OF AMERICA (BOAT SHOW).
41. SET FEE OF $5.00 PER ESCORT MOTORCYCLE MIAMI POLICE
DEPARTMENT FUNERAL MOTORCYCLE ESCORT.
42. GRANT 1-YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT: VIRGINIA
LIEBERMAN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
43. ISSUE WASTE COLLECTION LICENSES: CORBAR'S TRUCKING &
HAULING; LA FE TRASH & WASTE SERVICE; MANUEL WHITE &
PACKED SANITATION CO. INC.
44. ACQUIRE FEE SIMPLE TITLE- CERTAIN PROPERTY FOR: COCONUT
GROVE MINI -PARK.
45. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: MARIA C. VIDAL AND BART C. VIDAL.
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ACCEPT BID - REPLACEMENT OF HANDGUNDS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ACCEPT BID - 1,000 CUBIC YARDS CYPRESS MULCH PARKS
DEPARTMENT.
48. ACCEPT BID - BASKETBALL COURT AND TOT LOT HENDERSON
PARK (COMMUNITY DEV. PROJECT).
49. ACCEPT BID - COCONUT GROVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING
PROJECT.
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ACCEPT BID -
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PLAYGROUNDS.
CULMER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT
1978 AND CULMER SANITARY SEWER MODIFICATION`
LIABILITY INSURANCE CITY OWNED PARKS, POOLS
52. ACCEPT BID - CITY WIDE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT "TREE
PLANTING".
S3, ACCEPT BID - ORANGE BOWL - UPPER DECK TRAFFIC BEARING
SEAL COAT.
$4, AIVE RENTAL FEES: SHOWMOBILE TRANSPORTATION WORKERS
UNION LOCAL 291 JULY 29, 1978.
S5, CONTINUED DISCUSSION; BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL
EGOTIATIONS WITH DOLPHINS,
56. UTHORIZE PAYMENT LAW FIRM OF- MC CRARY, BERKOWITZ,
AVIS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN PREPARATION OF CITY'S
TI-PROSTITUTION ORDINANCE.
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AUTIHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT: EDWARD
NODARSE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO BE ASSIGNED TO
COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON.
PREPARED RESOLUTION: ACCEPT CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED
AGMTS.- SALE OF BEER IN ORANGE BOWL STADIUM SCALED DOWN
SCOREBOARD SYSTEM WITH PRESENT CONCESSIONAIRE WITH
CONDITIONS.
ACCEPT BID - CONFISCATED RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
EXTEND FUNDING 1 ADDITIONAL MONTH - ACCION.
INCLUDE SALE SURPLUS EQUIPMENT: 3-SURPLUS GARAGE TRUCKS
TO BE OFFERED FOR SALE SISTER CITY PROGRAM.
BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: ELIZABETH VIRRICK'S ANNIVERSARY -
COCONUT GROVE.
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
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ON THE 13TH DAY OF JULY, 1978, THE CITY COMMISSION OF
ALL,�5 UHQURFAN AMERICANMET AT TDREGULAR
RIVE,JIIAMI, frLORIDACINREGULAR IN THE ITY
SESSION,
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 9:20 O'CLOCK A,M, BY
MAYOR MAURICE A. IERRE WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT:
Commi44..onek J. L. Plummet, Jh.
Commi..44 Loneh Ro4e Gon.don
Commi44 Lone& (Rev.) Theodahe G.Lb4 on
Vice -Mayon ManoZo Rebo4o
Mayon. MaunLee A. Fethe
ALSO PRESENT:
Jo4eph R. Gha44Le, City Manage&
R. L. Fo4moen, A44 L tan,t CLty Manager.
Jo4e B. Atvahez, A44.i.4#ant City Attohney
Ralph G. Ongie, CLty Cee.'t
Matty H.Lta4., A44i4.tant C.i..ty Ctetk
AN INVOCATION WAS DELIVERED BY REVEREND GIBSON WHO THEN
LED THOSE PRESENT IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.
A MOTIQN TQ APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF MAY
19 AND MAY 51, 19/8 WAS INTRODUCED BY COMMISSIONER FLUMMER
AND SECONDED BY REV. GIBSON AND WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED UNAN-
IMOUSLY.
1, Two TIER GOVERNMENT STUDY - PRESENTATION BY
TOUCHE ROSS AND COMPANY,
Mayor Ferre: We're now on item 41 A; Presentation by Touche Ross, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, and members of the City Commission, a number of
weeks ago the City Commission commissioned a study of the form of local
government in the City and County, and we have asked the firm of Touche
Ross to do that analysis for you. They are now ready to report,and I would
like to have Dick Fosmoen introduce the staff from Touche Ross who have
been working on this for you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, for the record if you would, since there is
skepticism among the media that we the Commission have had copies of this
prior to this morning. Would you officially for the record state when the
members of the Commission received copies of this please?
Mr. Grassie: The copies were distributed to everyone including myself at
approximately 8;00 o'clock this morning.
Mr. Plummer: That's today,
Mr, Grassie; Today, this morning.
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Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you, perhaps if you'll excuse me, and I hope we don't
have any more interruptions once you proceed from here, just for the record,
I do want to say though since I noticed on the opening page dated June 12th it
says, "the analysis and recommendations outlined in this report have been diS-
cussed with the Mayor of Miami and representative City officials..." I would
like to point out that Dick Fosmoen and I went up to Toronto on the 7th day
of May, all the members of the Commission were invited to go to Toronto as I
recall.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: And, I was the only one who went. I went with Dick Fosmoen and
I spent one day. He spent two and one-half days there. At that time we had
a full discussion of many of the issues that will be presented here. I just
wanted the members of the Commission to understand that other than that I have
not in any way discussed or been involved in any of this. I have not seen a
copy of this until today and my only discussion from May 7th on was two that
I had with Fosmoen and one that I had with the local management partner of
Touche Ross in Miami who came to discuss with me strictly the procedure of
the presentation and not the contents of the report. I just want to clarify
• the record.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, representatives of
Touche Ross, the Miami Office of Touche Ross are here, Mr. Frank Miller and
Mr. Goldrich. They were the contracting office for this report. A member of
the Toronto office of Touche Ross, Mr. Joe Martin is also here. Mr. Martin
was the project manager for this effort. The commission asked Touche Ross to
take a look at the form and the function and the financing of government in
this metropolitan area using primarily secondary data, i.e., already published
and available data and bring to this City Commission Touche Ross's feelings
on ways that government and services and financing could be improved, could
be adjusted to better serve the citizens of this community. Mr. Joe Martin
is here today and will present Touche Ross's findings and recommendations to
Commission.
Mr. Joe Martin: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, may I ask first how
long do I have?
Mayor Ferre: How long do you need?
Mr. Martin: I think 15 minutes to half an hour.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, no problem.
Mr. Martin: I had planned to make the slide presentation to highlight the
report, but it is a wee bit awkward so I think what I'll begin is talking
from here, if I'm not making my points clear I trust that you will challenge
me and ask for clarification.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Martin, I'll tell you let's see what the Commission wants
to do. We have a tendency sometimes when there is interruption to go off on
tangents and I'm probably the worst one, So usually what I think we need to
do is just let you have your time and present your report. Does anybody have
any objections to that? And we'll just write down whatever questions we have.
Mr. Martin: Fine. If I can begin by reading part of our letter of transmittal,
"At the request of the City of Miami we have completed our review and appraisal
of the effectiveness of the existing two-tier metropolitan government struc-
ture in Miami -Dade County. The scope of our review as agreed included an
analysis of local government throughout Miami -Dade County and was not limited
to a critique of the City of Miami's relation to the Metropolitan Dade County.
The report on our review is intended, and I would like to emphasize this point,
as a working document. It has been organized to include chapters which de-
scribe our understanding of the objectives in our review, scope ofour review,
our approach to conducting the review and in the executive summary of our
major findings and recommendations. Now it is difficult for anyone to pre-
dict the future but I would like to emphasize that this is a document intended
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for the future and hopefully something which will begin discussion, a working
docu►eht which Will begin discussion. I don't want to bore you with method
ology but t'l . take two minutes to describe what we did dos After our initial
meeting with City of Miami officials we gathered data. As a result I believe
of an instruction from this commission a great deal of emphasis was placed on
the work already done by the University of Miami which I gather arose from a
meeting of your Commission and we used that data extensively. We analyzed the
data and we developed alternative structural models. We had our review then
we refined our data and models. We had a meeting with officials in the City
of Toronto and 1 guess that's the only jurisdiction that was visited and pre-
pared a written document. I'd like to say a brief word on the scope. It was
our instruction from the beginning given a limited time and budget to rely on
secondary data. We have relied on that data and wherever we have made a recom-
mendation we have shown the basis of our reasoning so that you can go to it
and check that basic documentation which led us to our conclusions. I guess
I will use one or two slides just to show you....
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Martin, you could actually take that microphone off of that
stand and hold it in your hand and I think... You have to pull it back.
Mr. Martin: I think it is important to understand some of the background of
the study. We did an analysis of the population data and as you can see from
Table 2.2 the City of Miami in 1920 had a population of less than 30,000 but
relative to Dade County it represented nearly 70% of the total population of
the area. In 1976 Miami had experienced significant growth obviously, it was
nearly 350,000 in population but as a proportion of the whole it was less than
25% and projections by the Bureau of Census and the City of Miami Planning
Department indicates in the year 1990 the City of Miami will have a population
of 410,000 out of a total of 1.9 million or 21.2% of the total population. In
terms of assessment, you can see that in 1960 all cities had 71% of the total
assessment and in 1976 they had half, the other half with the other half in
the unincorporated area, and then if you looked at selected cities you can see
the trend in the City of Miami from 1960 when the assessment here represented
27.8% of the whole to 1976 when it represented 18.6%. One other slide....
Mayor Ferre: That's also here in our books, right, 2.3?
Mr. Martin: Yes, those are all in the report. That gives you a graphic il-
lustration of population trends and if you did the same with the assessment
trend you'd get the same pattern and this is the line of the City of Miami
tracing down here and you can see where the other cities and the unincorpor-
ated area have been going. I hope that the moving and back and forth won't
be too interrupting but it's sometimes necessary. I think other background
to the study is that this review is not something that is unique. There have
been a number of reviews of the relationship of governments in the Metropolitan
Miami area going back to the early 50's at least when the Public Administration
Service did their review in 1954 which resulted in the creation of Miami -
Dade County, the first metropolitan form of government in the United States
but since then there have been)in 1961 the Chamber of Commerce and the League
of Municipalities, in 19631Mr. Soffin from the University of Miami, 1967, Mr.
Glendenning, University of Michigan and, of course, in 1971, the Dade County
Study Commission and from 1973-1976 the University of Miami did a terrific
amount of research on governmental relations in this area. So this study is
a part of a trend and hopefully it's the beginning of the trend, a working
document that can be used in the months ahead. Now in determing our criteria
for establishing what the local government structure should be we relied ex-
tensively on the Advisory Commission and Intergovernmental Relations, a body
situated in the City of Washington and we basically tried to apply four criteria.
They were (1) economic efficiency, (2) equity, (3) political accountability,
(4) administrative effectiveness and if you would like a greater elaboration
of what we mean by those terms you can find them in the report on pages 28
forward but those were the four criteria we measured the alternative structures
against. We looked at three basic structures, we looked at the status quo
obviously, we looked at consolidation which seems to be a direction that some
people would like to go and we looked at what we called a true Two -Tier Feder-
ation. Now applying those criteria we - and this is documented in the report
as I said, page 28 forward - I guess the key emphasis we placed was on econ-
omy, that is the economy of scale, what is the most efficient for the tax-
payer, for what will he get the best bang for his buck but also opposite that
we also had to be concerned with the citizens ability to have access to his
government and interestingly enough you will see that on those two criteria
consolidation did not measure up well. In terms of status quo we point out
that the status quo by definition cannot continue, there will have to be
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change and if there is going to be a change by applying criteria of econoitic
efficiency, equity, political accountability and administrative effectivehess
it is Our opinion that a true two-tier federation is the best answer for the
citizens of Miami -Dade County. Now that will obviously have to be elaborated
upon but I would like to point out to you before I do elaborate on that point
that in addition to applying the criteria I said we looked at the preference
of bade County citizens through the University of Miami research and there
was clear evidence there that the citizens wished to retain municipalities as
a viable form of government, that they have concerns about consolidation and
we also looked at the 1971 Metropolitan Dade County Study Commission Report
Which endorsed a federated metropolitan government and so while some may say
that the recommendation is a radical departure we don't think it is. It is
in a mainstream dating back at least to the early 70's in this area. Now once
you recommend a true two-tier form of government there are at least four as-
pects that have to be looked at. They include the lower tier municipalities,
representation on the upper tier, the way the services will be handled that
is police, fire, sewage, garbage - and there are financial issues as well
which we're all concerned with not the least because of Proposition 13 in
California. And looking at the lower tier form of government our recommenda-
tion there was that Dade County be composed of a strong central core city
surrounded by a group of ten economically viable cities whose populations are .
in the order of 100,000 to 150,000 each; that a local boundaries commission
be created and the local government boundaries commission are becoming an in-
creasingly popular vehicle throughout the United States to review the situa-
tion and recommend a two-tier structure based on the above criteria and tak-
ing the following points as guidelines: The core city should have a popula-
tion ranging from 25% to 30% of the county total, the remaining lower tier
cities should have a base population between 100,000 and 150,000, the analysis
by the commission should take into account projected future growth trends for
population both in numbers and geographic location. The per capita assessment
of the lower tier units should not vary by more than 50% so that we can seek
for that criteria of equity. The analysis should take into account existing
communities and historical ties to enhance the political feasibility of re-
structuring. Now I think the point that needs to be least elaborated, I would
like to touch on it briefly is the importance of the core city. I think most
healthy urban areas throughout the world have a strong and vital core city
and I think it is important that that be true here. I think those earlier
projections showed that there is a danger of Miami losing its important posi-
tion in the Dade County area unless action is taken. In determining the num-
ber of lower tier municipalities it was not an easy task because although
there is a great deal written on the optimal size of local governments we
found it very hard to come up with numbers and so tracing back to our sources
we arrived to a conclusion that in order to insure the principle of one man
one vote that probably in this environment the best size....
Mayor Ferre: One person - excuse the interruption.
Mr. Martin: The one area that provided a great deal of difficulty was the
issue of representation and again though this is a working document and what
emerges from ... I don't know whether your concern will be basically struc-
ture or finance or what but the area that going into it that seemed to give
us the most difficulty was the issue of representation in the upper tier and
the criteria for representation which we used we put in the form of question
marks and tried to satisfy ourselves in those questions. Does it provide
for equal access by all citizens? Does it promote accountability in the part
of the elected officials toward their constituents? Does it facilitate the
representation of the diverse characteristics and interests of the community?
Does it maximize citizen participation? Does it provide meaningful choices
to the voters? Having applied those criteria we had to ask certain questions,
how large shall the representative body be, how shall its members be elected,
at large or by district and shall the representatives be elected directly or
indirectly. We answered those questions in the following fashion: How large
shall the representative body be? We are suggesting 27. How shall its mem-
bers be elected, at large or by district? We are suggesting a combination
and that is half of the 26 other than the Mayor, in other words a 27 member
body composed of 26 members plus the Mayor that half should be elected at
large and half should be elected from districts. Shall the representatives
be elected directly or indirectly? Again, we're recommending a compromise
so that one half are elected directly but the other half would be the mayors
of Miami and the ten lower municipalities plus two others elected from Miami.
We have one other slide, I'm sorry to keep going back and forth but I'd like
to show you one slide on representation, Here we tried to look at terms of
representation in terms of population. We looked at certain consolidated
governments and certain two -tiered governments and you can see that Columbus,
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fndiahapoiis, Jacksohviiie, Nashville which are all relatively recent c'ohsciid,.
ated governments have a population representative of somewhere between li,000
and 25,000. hooking, and two-tier, and there ate two Canadian examples there,
Metropolitan Toronto which 1 think is reasonably well-known to you but you
may hot be as familiar with Ottawa -Carlton but that is where the Canadian
capital is situated and the representatives there, Metropolitan Toronto con.-
siderably greater than even Jacksonville, one for every 57,000 but you'll see
under the current structure here you have one for every 161,000 which almost
by definition makes effective representation difficult.
Mayor ?erre: What page is that on in our books?•
Mr. Martin: That is on page 66, Table 5.1
Mayor Ferre: Thank you.
Mr. Martin: Now many, turning next to the allocation of service functions.
It is my experience, previous experience, that this is perhaps the most con-
troversial area because everybody no matter where they reside seem to have
an opinion and it invariably varies as to who should fight fires, who should
perform the police functions, who should collect garbage, etc. What we've
attempted to focus on in this report is certain principles rather than in the
specific details. Here as things exist in Miami -Dade County there is a combi-
nation for a person coming to it from outside it appears almost a hodge-podge
where certain functions, what appear to be lower tier functions are performed
both by lower tier municipalities and by the upper tier and so looking at
that we concurred with the 1971 study and our basic recommendation is that
the upper tier should perform upper tier functions and share functions but
it should not perform lower tier functions. In other words we're saying that
we don't think it is advisable that the county should provide fire services
directly either to a lower tier municipality. We understand how that's come
about, how the situation is with the pressure on the mill rate. It is easier
for the municipalities to shift those services to the county because the county
can tax the whole of Dade County, in effect double tax. But we're saying
that when we get to the fiscal reform area we want to deal with that but we're
saying that the upper tier should perform upper tier functions and share func-
tions but it should not perform lower tier functions. We also say that all
lower tier municipalities should perform similar lower tier functions as well
as shared functions. In other words if fire or garbage collection is a lower
tier function the eleven new municipalities should all do it. It shouldn't
be done by the upper tier. And then we go forward and we offer a model for
discussion showing the various functions. Now what I'd like to do if it's
all right with you, Mr. Mayor and the Commission, is show you the model but
I would like to hold off discussion till a later date so you've got time to
discuss that because that's something that's probably of greater concern for
you and your officials. It's a fairly comprehensive model, as I said it is
a model for discussion.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
Mr. Martin: And I almost apologize for the chart, we're just trying to get
all the functions on there. We take administration and we say that, for
example, the council agenda and minutes obviously have to be both area and
regional. we carry through on all the functions and we give our suggestions
as to who should do what and to whom and that should provide food for further
discussion and hopefully further research. If you want to know what page
that's on I believe it is page 83. We have now come to taxes or revenue, I
guess which is especially as of recent days a matter of particular concern.
I think here I'm going to have to use the slide projector and first of all
I think we should be clear of where does the revenue come from. Again I apol-
ogize for the detail of the slides but I think they're necessary for some
understanding. Here is a revenue analysis for 1976 and we have taken the
major lower tier municipalities, the other municipalities and totaled them
and so you can see that in the City of Miami with a total revenue of 100.8
million dcllars 34.5 million came from the real property tax which shows that
it is the most important revenue tax to the City of Miami. Over here for all
municipalities that's very unclear but I believe the figure is 82.3 million
,,. total of 263.2 for all lower tier municipalities. And then you can see
in descending order that the utility service tax comes next, closely followed
by state shared revenue and federal shared revenue, other federal revenue,
interest earnings on investments, franchise taxes, miscellaneous. That same
table is expressed another way in the report and that is in terms of percent-
age, And so you can see that in Miami the real property tax represents 36,2%
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Of all revenue, in Hialeah only 18.4%. In Miami Beach it is higher than it
is in the City of Miami, 43,6%, North Miami 23,1%, Coral Gables 35% and so oh.
So that shows you the revenue sources and which is the most important and
still the real property tax is of major major significance. We also have to
look at tax rates and this is from a recent study by the State Local GoVeth
tent Advisory Commission on State Mandates in Florida and they point out sole
of the problems being faced by Florida munidipalities as a result of the state
mandated ten mill maximum. In 1976 you can see these were the municipalities
from the Dade County area that were selected and a number of them were close
to ten and, of course, that got worse in 1977. I'd like to point out one
other thing to you, we introduce in this report the concept of tax effort and
it is not sufficient to describe tax effort by looking at the mill rate alone►
You have to look at the mill rate applied to the base to see what dollar reve-
nues that yields and the same mill rate - 10 mills - in four selected cities
shows that in Miami from ten mills you get $107 per capita, in Hialeah you
get $106 and in Miami Beach $175 and in Coral Gables $207. So that shows that
with the same tax effort the citizens of Miami would get approximately one
half the revenue as the citizens would in Coral Gables. I think what follows
from that is that the millage cap has an obviously different impact depending
on what your assessment base is. Just to reassure you, Mr. Mayor and members
of the Commission, I only have two more slides. So given the problem of the
millage cap the fact that it by its very nature forces the municipalities to
off-load services up to the other tier. Given the fact that it does not treat
each municipality in the same fashion we're recommending the millage cap be
eliminated and while I recognize that may not be popular after Proposition 13)
it seems to us that it is a way that the state has restricted the City of Miami
from discharging its responsibilities to its citizens and we're suggesting
that the best source of determining the millage cap should be the people that
elect you. Secondly, we're suggesting that in terms of State Revenue Sharing
which we think is a good and fair source of revenue for the City of Miami that
it could be improved if the Dade County delegation to the State Legislature
introduced a proposal which would alter the population factor calculation used
in the apportionment of State Revenue Sharing and we point out in the report
that there is already some consideration for population, in other words the
larger the jurisdiction it only comes up to 50,000 and I think most of studies
showed those jurisdictions with over 50,000 have problems and they should be
better recognized through the formula although basically we think it is a
good formula. We have taken our recommendation from the recently released
report of the State Intergovernmental Advisory Commission that the Charter
be amended so as to prevent the County from taxing properties within munici-
palities for services which are of no real and substantial benefit to the per-
son and properties within the municipalities. I think that will probably
have general acceptance. And finally, in terms of tax base that an assess-
ment pool be created in Dade County of all non-residential assessments and
this assessment pool should be redistributed to the lower -tier municipalities
on the basis described in this report. That is a fairly radical recommenda-
tion, it is r.ot without precedent. There is a model for it in the Minneapolis
Twin City Program and we are restricting the recommendation to non-residential
assessment. So, in summary and conclusion,there are 15 major recommendations
which are being made and they cover the following topics: Reform and struc-
ture two, two, on lower tier restructuring, four on representation, three on
service allocation, four on municipal revenue. In brief we recommend a true
two-tier form of government for Miami -Dade County building on current strength
and eliminating current weaknesses. A lower tier structure with a central
core plus ten municipalities, an upper tier with a Mayor elected at large,
thirteen Commissioners elected at large by district, thirteen Commissioners
from the lower tier, service functions clearly defined between the two tiers,
the creation of assessment pool which we think will lead to greater equity
in the financing of services in Miami -Dade County and some physical reform -
the elimination of the millage cap, a Charter amendment to eliminate double
taxation and a change in the Revenue Sharing Formula and this is all contained
in our report which as you know is a working document which we hope will lead
to change in the future and if I haven't bored you too much I'll be happy to
entertain any questions that you may have.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Mr. Martin. I might say for the Commis-
sion and I'm sure I speak for everybody here that we're grateful for the
work that you and your associates at Touche Ross have done. Obviously this
is a very very difficult subject which we've had exposure of now for less
than two hours and half an hour of your discussion. It is going to take
many days of reading and thinking about it before we can react. I think it
would be very precipitous and dangerous, and I would hope that the press
would carry the message to their respective editorial boards not to make
shag judgements on things without having the opportunity to read these things
and think about them and look at the implications. There is an awful lot of
substance in thin and we all have a tendency to cOMe to quick conclusions
on this. 1 understand that the Miami News, dill, has an editorial this Morn,
ing on sotething Which hasn't even been discussed publicly yet Which is go=
ing to be discussed in the next hour. Now I just wonder how in the word a
major newspaper can come to an editorial conclusion oh something that hasn't
been made public yet. You know they shoot you in the barrel before you even
come up for air. So it just seems to me that we have a very very serious
matter before us and I hope we don't come to snap quick statements and con-
clUsions. I want to confess that I have a tendency to do that myself and
I'm going to certainly try to restrain from coming to any kind of conclusions,
I just Want to thank you and I hope that perhaps there might be some questions
here from the Commission. I think it might be important, Mr. Grassie, to get
Mr. Martin back here again once this Commission has had time to really study
and think about this and perhaps other members of the community might want
to do that. I might announce that Mr. Martin and the other members of Touche
Ross will be available to the press at noon or perhaps before that, maybe we
could do it at 11:00 O'Clock in the Committee of the Whole Room which is right
next door right through that door for a press conference and to answer any
questions that the press might have on this matter. Ok, now for questions,
any questions?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, without question there are a lot of questions but
this document was presented to us this morning at 8:00 O'Clock and you know
some of the points that you hit in there as I listened are in my estimation .
way out in left field and some of them are quite practical and I think for
myself to sit and ask intelligent questions I've got to read the whole docu-
ment. It is my hope, Mr. Mayor, that this will today now be rescheduled for
the first meeting in September where we will have time... Well, wait a min-
ute, we're into budget. I'll leave it to the administration, that they set
a date today that will bring these people back where we can ask those ques-
tions. Things of these kinds have a way of being presented and forgotten
and I think this is an important matter, it is something that is not selfish-
ly under the City of Miami I think it affects all of South Florida and I hope
that it will be rescheduled so that this will not be forgotten.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: One basic question only, and that is the matter of an implement-
ation program is not up to, I just listened to you, I didn't read this at
all. The implementation then would be a matter for the entire county to im-
plement and, therefore, it really is not in the hands of the City to take it
and run with it. How do you propose that the county would buy your concept?
Mr. Martin: I think
iative in initiating
could have or any of
ion showed wisdom in
of the City in doing
in Miami -Dade County
take a great deal of
that the idea was that anyone could have taken the init-
this study. The county could have, the City of Miami
the other municipalities. I think the City in my opin-
initiating the study and I think it is my understanding
that is that you wanted to start the rest of the people
thinking about the need for reform which will obviously
time. That is my understanding of the program.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Plummer, any other questions?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir. ...
Mayor Ferre: Father, any questions? Manolo? Mr. Martin, let me, perhaps
I think it is time then for me to make a statement and I hope not a wild
statement in conclusion but I think what I want to do is focus on how this
all comes about and what the importance of it is. On July 20th Metropolitan
Dade County is 21 years old. This is a birthday present and what in effect
we're doing is the City of Miami along with Metropolitan Dade County and other
cities have some very serious fiscal constraints that are going to affect
the viability of whether or not this is going to be a city. This is serious
business. The City of Miami and Metropolitan Dade County are facing very
serious financial crises in the years to come. In addressing that we thought
that it would be good to look for an objective voice somewhere from out of
the City who had experience in other forms of government and the Manager at
our request chose, and our recommendation that he choose somebody he chose
and recommended Touche Ross which we accepted. Touche Ross has spent many
months making a study. They've come back with recommendations of what they
see as our problem with recommended solutions. The recommended solutions,
Mr, Plummer says that some of them are way out in left field, well that may
kie true, some of them may be coming out of left field but it is not up to
Touche Ross to decide whether or not the millage cap is something that even.
though it is not in the City's purview he and Touche Rose, Mr. Martin and
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Touche Ross have recommended that that be addzes;.ed. Obviously that's a legie
lative matter, not even Metropolitan Dade County can decide that. I frankly
think that we could never get that, espec :ally in this day and age, however,
he can't be involved in that type of... Touche Ross is looking at this from
a theoretical point of view as to what they recommend in theory as the best
solution for us in our current dilemna and what they've Come back with is a
Modified form of Metropolitan Dade County. And the two essential basis of
What t sense is in this report (1) is the form of representation and that in=
eludes districting and that includes expansion of the size of the Commission
and the structure of the government itself, The other thing that it addresses
as 2 understood in. my visit up there and your report today is the relation -
Ship between the cities and Metro and it is a redefinition of what that rela-
tionship is. In its simplest form what happens is that Metro gets out of the
City business and the cities get out of Metro's business. The cities do muni-
cipal functions which basically are defined throughout the United States and
Canada - Fire, Police, Sanitation, Planning and Zoning, local parks and Public
Works - there are other things but those are the basic key ingredients and
in effect what happens in Toronto and what you're recommending here is that
the cities, that the local, the lower tier of government do that type of a
function throughout Dade County, therefore, getting Dade County out of city
business and that Metropolitan Dade County then do all the things that are
regional in nature, hospitals, airports, seaports, traffic and transportation,
and all of the major things that are important to a community of this size.
I might point out that no government even this great democracy of our's is
sacrosanct forever. The fact is that the Constitution of the United States
has 24 amendments or 25 and hopefully will have 26. Right, Rose? One of
these days with something that is still pending. Now, these things are amend-
ments to .our basic government document. Metropolitan Dade County has had
some severe attacks but iC you look at the structure of it it really has not
in any way been modified or changed in 2l years other than in rather small
things in my opinion. And what we're addressiru here is the basis of how our
government functions. It happens to be my personal opinion before this study
was made that something doesn't quit:, fit and doesn't quite work out in this
community with government. The Miami Herald and others think that the answer
is consolidation. New York City had consolidation at tl.e turn of the century
and the type of problems that are besetting New York City are the type of
problems that would beret a community of a million and e half to two million
that would have a big centralized strong government. It's not that I'm against
Washington or Tallahassee but centralization of power and big doesn't make
better and the fact is that what we need here is community representation,
neighborhood representation in all our forms of government and I really think
that the basic thing that has been addressed 1 think we need a lot of thinking
and studying. I am hopeful that people won't come to quick snap knee-jerk
type of reactions and give these things serious consideration. So thank you
again, Mr. Martin, for your presence here today and your associates'.
2. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO PROVIDE
DISTRICT ELECTIONS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, the next item is Item "B", the discussion
of the Charter Amendments to provide district elections for the City of Miami.
For those of you that do not have copies of the proposers ordinance I have
extra copies here, perhaps the Clerk could pass them out if anybody wants an
extra copy. The basis of this recommendation, so that we understand, is that
the City of Miami from 1960 to this time has grown approximately from 250,000
people to about 350,000. I don't think it is any secret that from 1960 to
1978 there have been some very basic ethnic and other community and neighbor-
hood changes. I think that if you look at the structure that we have it may
have been a very valid structure when it was started and as it was amended
25 years ago. The City of Miami has not had any changes in its structure in
25 years. Basically what we're sa'.ing in this document is that perhaps it
is time for Coconut Grove to have e voice on this commission and not a voice
that represents the total city which is what we all represent here but to have
somebody who represents 100,000 people that live in a specific district. The
people of Wyndwood, I notice that we Leve some representatives from Wyndwood
here. If there were a district in which instead of being elected city-wide
Wyndwood was, there was a community of about 100,0O0 people that would elect
from that particular district pe.rh._pe they would have a more effective voice
than perhaps they have. That doess-'t mean to say that I as the Mayor and
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four CIIMAistiOnetS here don't look out after the interests. of Wyndwood even
though yot► may hot think so, or Coconut Grove even though Coconut Grove may hot
think so or Allapattah may not think so,but I think if we had a balance, if we
had a nine Member Commission of which four were elected at large, therefore,
representing the welfare of the community as a whole and four represented front
districts then I think that would insure for years to come for kind of a bal-
ante geographically and otherwise that we need in this Commission. There is
another point that I think is very essential, the point is that this is no
longer a small city and I'll make a blanket point blank statement - there is
no city in these United States with a population of 350,000 or more that is
governed by five persons. This is an anachronism. It is the only community
this size governed by such a small board. Now, the last point that I want to
make is this: When I went up to Toronto with Dick Fosmoen to see how that
government worked and as I've traveled around to different cities around the
United States it became patently obviously and apparent to me, the basis of
this report, one of the strong basis was going to be districting. Jacksonville
has districting. You saw on page 65 of this report that was presented, if you '
would refer to it I would point out to you - 66 - with sample copies of consol-
idated governments, Columbus, Georgia, Indianapolis, Indiana, Jacksonville,
Florida, Nashville, if you look, the common ingredient and denominator is single
member districts. Now Governor Rubin Askew went before the Constitutional Com-
mission and recommended districting for our legislature. The Constitutional
Revision Commission accepted that and recommended districting for the legisla-
ture. The Touche Ross report before you recommends districting for Metropolitan
Dade County and I accept that portion of it at this point. Now, if districting
is so good for the legislature, single member districts, and if districting is
so good for Metropolitan Dade County then why isn't it good for the City of
Miami? And the point is, and we can't go with the argument that we're too
small a government, we're not. This is a community of 353,000 people and grow-
ing quickly to 400,000. And, therefore, I don't see how we can say that district-
ing is good for the legislature and districting is good for Metro and not say
at the same time that districting is good for the City of Miami. And since
this report was going to be presented today it seemed appropriate to me as Mayor
that I should make this statement today so that it might not be misinterpreted
at some time in the future that it was a defensive, that we were really, our
purpose was to attack Metro and that we really were not being candid and that
a proposal for districting in Miami was a reaction rather than an action and
was a defense mechanism in our attack toward Metro. We're not attacking Metro
and I'm perfectly willing to put out for myself that I as one member out of the
five here am perfectly willing to do with the City of Miami what I think we
would recommend be done in Metropolitan Dade County which is a districting form
of government whether it be partial or whether it be complete. So, therefore,
I think to be completely above board, candid and sincere about it, the timing
of it, and I want to explain that to you as to why I chose today is so that it
would not be a reaction in the future. I can only add in closing my remarks
that I know this is a major move, I think already there are many voices in the
RI' community that are misinterpreting and it shows you how paranoid this community
is. There is a major voice in the Cuban community who yesterday without even
seeing, without even seeing the plan, without even knowing about it attacked
it violently on radio at noon yesterday. And attacked it would you believe on
the basis that the City of Miami is going to be eventually taken over by the
Latins and the Cuban vote and that this was a way to keep away the take over
of the City of Miami by the Cuban electorate which seems to me the most devis-
ive racist unfortunate kind of a statement that could be made. I just don't
understand for the life of me, in other words the theory being that at the next
election the majority of the Commissioners including the Mayor are going to be
Cuban -Americans and, therefore, why now change the structure of the City on the
eve of that type of a take over. And I just want to say openly and publicly
on the record the American system doesn't function for any particular group or
any particular minority or even a majority as thank God the Supreme Court and
others have proven. It is not an easy task and it hasn't always been that way,
we have had a difficult history in our country. But the theory of it is that
this government has to work for everybody and if for years we've been asking
and thinking about this type of thing when it finally comes about it seems ironic
that this would be the time when this sort of a criticism would arise and I
think that we have to be just in our consideration. On the other side of it
this morning, and I have not read the editorial, the Miami News came out with
an editorial also attacking it probably for the same reasons but coming from
the opposite side. And the fact is that it has nothing to do with blacks, or
Cubans or Allapattah or Coconut Grove. What it has to do is with the kind of
representative government that we need and it seems to me that what in effect
we need to do here is address the issue and not the people or the personalit-
ies involved. And the issue is that the City of Miami is sufficiently large
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at this point to have proper representation. And yes, I. think that the people
in Little Havana do need a representation and a voice here and I think that the
people of Wyndwood and Allapattah need rNpresent:ation and a voice here and I
think the people of Coconut Grove also need a voice in this area. I don't gee
that as a weakening of government,I see that as a strengthening of government
because if it were not so then this country would have a unicameral legislature
and everybody would be representing just the states and not the districts. And
I think what is applicable to Congress is applicable to the legislature of the
State of Florida, applicable to Dade County and certainly is applicable to the
City of Miami. You have a document before you, I don't - unless there is ab-
solute consensus which I doubt very much I don't expect any vote on it today.
I would bring it up then on the next Commission Meeting which is the 27th of
July for, hopefully if I can get somebody to second the motion, to bring it up
to a vote on First Reading and then on the 28th it would be read on Second Read-
ing. The purpose for that is that to be on the October ballot it must be read
twice and that is the legal way of doing it. I'm perfectly willing to.answer
any questions or open this up for discussion if you want at this time or we
could do it on the 27th.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I do feel that there is a correlation between
what you are proposing this morning and the report which was given this morn-
ing. I would like the opportunity to read both and then express my opinion on
the 27th. I think one has a big bearing on the other and until I have done
such this Gringo will reserve comment.
Mayor Ferre: An bod else? If not, we're on Item #C.
3. "GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS" PROGRAM - PRESENTATION BY
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Mayor Ferre: We're now on Item "C" which is Miami's Great Neighborhoods slide
presentation by the Office of Community Development. All right, Dena.
Ms. Dena Spillman: Good morning. We're here today to show you a slide pres-
entation we put together for our Great Neighborhoods Program which is our hous-
ing rehab program which was approved as part of our Fourth Year Community Devel-
opment Program. The program officially got kicked off last night in the Buena
Vista neighborhood, we'll be starting also in Allapattah and Model Cities over
the summer. I'm very pleased to tell you that we had a approximately 300 peo-
ple attend the meeting last night and I'd like to thank Kathy Luft and her staff
for the fine job they did in getting people out. I'd also like to thank Commis-
sioner Gordon for coming last night and supporting us.
Mrs. Gordon: May I make one comment for the benefit of the Mayor and Commis-
sioners, because I felt so proud of the City of Miami, articularly Dena Spill-
man for the way she conducted this meeting and the way he kept her patience
with the questions and the very professional attitude and the way the people
received her. I was indeed proud of you last night and I am very happy to
hear your presentation today.
Ms. Spillman: Thank you very much. We'll be using this presentation for our
neighborhood groups with the booklets that you now have in front of you describ-
ing the program. We're also going to be using it for various groups of realtors
aound the city and we're very happy that the Miami Boarc' of Realtors Neighbor-
hood Revitalization Committee has joined us in this pro ram and members of that
committee are going to be working with the citizen groups around the city in
forming their various organizations. We'11 also be using this presentation for
the various savings and loan institutions around town who are trying to get
interested in our program. I've also had preliminary interest from federal
HUD. A group of Russians will be coming to HUD in a couple of months and they're
interested in various slide presentations showing how neighborhood rehab prog-
rams work, This presentation was put together with the help of Mr. Jim Lyle
who is right here and Mr. Jose Casanova who took the photographs. I might add
that all the slides you're going to see, all the properties are located in our
rehab areas and with that we'll proceed.
There followed A slide presentation by the Office of Gomfiuhity betiaiopr eht,
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Plummer: 1 want to tell you that was first class:
Mayor Ferre: Well done. Mr. Manager, anything you want to add howl
Mt. Grassie: No, sir, that's the full presentation.
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to recognize members of the public in a moment if they
want to make a statement but in the meantime I would like first to see if there
are any questions from the members of the commission of Mrs. Spillman or the
Manager. AL1 right, hearing none I assume you want to be heard on this. Is
there any one else that wants to make a statement regarding our Great Neighbor-
hood presentation and the subject at hand? All right, Mr. Lopez.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: My name is Emilio Lopez. I just have a question and maybe
a statement.
Mayor Ferre: Through me.
Mr. Lopez: You know I see this as a beautiful presentation but I have a ques-
tion to the people that are indigent. One of the things that we find in this
neighborhood is that a person could be paying $250 in a real dilapidated home
or $300 or even $350 in the neighborhood of Wyndwood. One of the things that
we find is that sometimes these people would like to buy those homes and they
don't qualify. You know they go to the bank, they go through the whole process
and you know this presentation is beautiful but how can some of these people
qualify to out right purchase some of these homes through something like this?
That is my question, can people qualify to out right, you know really go out
and buy these homes?
Mayor Ferre: Can you answer that?
Ms. Spillman: Yes. Emilio, right now we don't have any programs for residents
to buy used homes but I don't know if you're aware that the City received an
Urban Development Action Grant for a second mortgage housing program for new
housing and under that program people who normally cannot afford new homes who
can't qualify will be able to qualify and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.
Mr. Lopez: ... Yes, because there is a problem like I said before, there are
a lot of people that we know that are paying $300 in those homes and sometimes
they have gone to the bank to try to buy the homes and they don't qualify.
They are paying $300 but they don't qualify to buy the homes.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you. Mrs. Range, we're always happy to have
you here, our former colleague here on the City Commission, Athalie Range,
well known to everyone in the community.
Mrs. Athalie Range: Thank you very much, Mayor Terre and Commissioners. For
the record I am Athalie Range of 5727 N.W. 17th Avenue. r really do not have
a question but I wonder if I might be allowed to make just one observation.
Mayor Ferre: Of course.
Mrs. Range: This is a very fine program as I have seen it, however, we real-
ize that among our electorate or the people who live in our community many
many people do not avail themselves of the opportunity of finding out about
these things. I wonder if there would be any way of the City engaging the
County in an agreement whereby when tax bills are sent out that a small note
might be attached to the tax bills and say, "Is your home dilapidated, if so
come see you know Joe Blow". Sir?
Mayor Ferre: Fix it so we can increase your taxes.
Mrs. Range: Well, the only problem here is that we have so many many people
who live within the City Limits of Miami who do not avail themselves of the
opportunity and consequently they do not have the read)' Thoney, .they have gone
to banks as Eni io just said and have been turned down. But if they were in-
formed in a routine manner just on the tax bill that "Says if your roof needs
fixing or however you want to fix it up" I think it would be a very very great
service to the people of the community who do own little hOEnes and don't know
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now to get them repaired. That's my observation, thank you very much.
Mrs. Gordon: That's a great idea.
Mayor Ferre: Dena, do you want to?
Ms. Spillman: Well, f was just going to respond by saying that at the %Wment
we're only going to be working in three small target areas, Model Cities is
one of them and our Office of Citizen Services is going door to door talking
to people explaining the program and 1 think after we try this if we're not
getting to the people then we can look towards other methods but it's not a
city-wide program I want to add.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any other comments? Mr. Mendez?
Mr. Jose Mendez: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Jose Mendez. I am
the Chairman, Community Development Task Force in Wyndwood. I must congratu-
late the Office of Community Development for putting such a presentation to-
gether. It looked very impressive. But I must s.y to you that about two
years ago when they first approached me or when t] ly first approached the task
force of the community of Wyndwood i was very muci against one segment of that
program and that was the Home Improvement Loan Pr tram. That was, Mr. Mayor,
because before they have approached my community. My community has made 27
applications and none, n-o-n-e of those applicati(.ss got a single response.
When I approached the people that were responsible to make responses to these
applications I was told they didn't have the adequate personnel. It sounds
beautiful as they presented it to you but I would like to suggest to this Com-
mission that next time a beautiful presentation like this is made to you that
you very candidly say to the responsible individuals, "How much was done in
each one of those target areas and how many have applied in each one of those
target areas?" so you can get a clear picture of what I'rs talking about.
Thank you, I don't need any response.
Mayor Ferre: All right, anything else?
Thereu.on the Cit Commission recessed and reconvened at 11:12 O'Clock.
4. DISCUSSION OF THE RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM COST SAVING MEASURES -
POLICY STATEMENT BY CITY COMMISSION
Mayor Ferre: We're on Item D, discussion of the Rapid Transit. Mr. Fosmoen?
Mr. Richard Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, on several occasions the Dade County Office
of Transportation Administration has come to the City suggesting adjustments
and changes in the overall program for the transit systeri. We in response
asked Dade County if they would come to us with a full list of options for re-
ducing costs. The estimate by Dade County is that they dust find a way of re-
ducing costs by some $42,000,000 in the system particularly if we're going to
reserve $24,000,000 for Phase I of the Rapid Transit Sys::em. You have in your
packet three alternatives which were suggested by Dr. Dyer for reducing costs.
... In response to a series of individual discussions about cost savings we
asked Dr. Dyer to come to the City with a series of recorunendations system-
wide on how costs can be saved. There are three alternatives that have been
presented to us, the administration by Dr. Dyer, he is here today to present
those and discuss those with you. In response to his three alternatives the
Planning Department, the City Manager's Office wrote a letter to Dr. Dyer ask-
ing for additional information, additional consideration of other cost -saving
measures and presented an alternative to his three proposals. What we'd like
to do if possible is to have the Commission deal first w.th the cost savings
issue on the entire system then get into the other issuers relating to site
specific transit problems - the Santa Clara Station, Gro'ip IV which is down-
town, Brickell and New Washington Heights and finally a discussion of joint
development around stations. If we can separate the iss.4es that way I think
that the discussion will be much clearer. Dr. Dyer is htre to make his press-
entation.
Mr, Plummer: All right, if I may, and John, this is not he first time you're
going to hear this and it's not going to be pleasant but I would hope in your
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comments you would address a key question. And I want to tell you that I have
had a lot of comments adversely that you promised the people a glowing picture
and the people reaffirmed that glowing picture and not until that reaffirmation
were these problems discovered, obviously or brought to light. And people are
expressing to me very much unhappiness about the fact that these points were
not brought out prior to the last referendum and that when you make a promise
to the public whether it be elevated or at ground level)that you stick with
that promise and you don't go back on your promise which in my estimation at
this point is a change and a major change, that they want justification that
you have to change your promise made to the public. So I hope you will address
that in your statements. And John, also for the record I want to put publicly
that Rose Gordon, and I very seldom can speak for her and I have not said any-
thing to her prior to this, I think are both well pleased in Ellen Walker who
you send to the Dade League and to these meetings here and commend to you that
she does an excellent job in representing your department and we thank you for
it.
Mayor Ferre: You can add my voice to that emphatically.
Mr. Plummer: Now if she wasn't such a pretty girl I might not make those state-
rants but they are very honest and very true.
Dr. John Dyer: Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, it is always
a pleasure to be here, I'm delighted to have the opportunity. I certainly will
take note of both comments which Commissioner Plummer made and certainly respond
to both, thanking you first for the accolades given Ellen Walker. We try to
keep everybody informed, advised and knowledgeable of things and I would agree
with you certainly she is doing everything within her power to do that. It is
a complicated program we all are aware of and my purpose here today is to try
to respond to not only what Commissioner Plummer has said but try to get out
this whole business of what we're talking about in terms of these cost contain-
ment or cost reduction measures. I might do that by spending about two minutes
on background. It is extremely important that ground to have the perspective
on that before we get into the specifics of our logic on how we have arrived
at the recommended alternatives. The first thing is I need to take you back
to September of 1977, one year roughly ago. You will recall at that time after
more than a year's worth of work on alternative yard and shop site locations
we had funded and approved a 161 mile system. We had to find a yard and shop
site. There were more than 16 alternatives examined, it came down to 2 possi-
bilities then to one. The public hearing was held by the Board of County Com-
missioners. At the public hearing where the yard and shop site was at 27th
Avenue and 71st Street, at that hearing more than 500 people participated,
there was not a single person in favor of that site. The County Commission
after a lot of discussion said no, we're going to go back and settle the so-
t' called Hialeah Yard Site. Now that means in effect under any circumstances
we no longer have a 161 mile system we have a 201 mile system just to get to
that yard and shop. Now the impact of that was we had to develop what was
finally called a premium funding proposal to fund the four miles of additional
guideway necessary to get from 27th Avenue and 71st Street to Hialeah. The
cost of that as we said in September of 1977 was $830,000,000, the total 201
mile system. We thought at that time, and we're convinced we could cut or re-
duce some $40,000,000 to $42,000,000 out of that $837,000,000 as soon as we
got the full system defined. Now the premium funding proposal for the addition-
al $100,000,000 was developed in September and October of 77. It involved
asking the state government to come up with additional dollars which they did,
it involved asking the City of Hialeah to come up with additional specific
dollars which they have done, it involved asking Dade County to come up with
additional dollars which they did. The federal government finally after four
months of extremely detailed discussions, negotiations and debates did agree
to fund an additional $57,000,000 with the non-federal share being $43,000,000
contributed by Dade County, the City of Hialeah and the State of Florida. The
consequence of that is after December of 77 we suddenly have a $795,000,000
twenty and a half mile system with a yard and shop in the unincorporated area
immediately south and west of the City of Hialeah. The yard and shop alone
costs are about $80,000,000. That is an enormous facility, it requires - I'm
sorry, $57,000,000, it is 80 acres. We at that point then by December of 77
have generally defined a 201 mile system. We have generally defined where the
yard and shop is and we have most of the stations located. Between December
of 77 and today we've been going through the community process working with
community organizations and groups in order to finally fix every one of the
Stations, We do believe by the 14th of this month we will have all of the
station sites officially finally located. That means located down to about
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six inches. It doesn't mean just generally located within an area but located
down to about six inches one way or the other in terms of possible movef[lents.
Now that brings us to the point where we get into the cost containfent measures
as we have tried to title them. t believe you have before you a piece or paper
that does show in one piece of paper the so-called $837,C00,000 figure with
September 77 attached to it. That figure has been around, it was in the prem-
ium funding proposal that was made public and widely distributed hundreds of
copies. It was made available to the press and everythirg else and, of course,
it was made with disgustduring the referendum that we were going to have to
make reductions of about 40 to $42,000,000. The approvec, budget, however, for
that twenty and a half miles is $795,000,000 as the Assistant City Manager just
said a little earlier. We are going to.....
Mayor Ferre: John, excuse me. The press isn't taking arty pictures now, are
you? Do you mind? Ok. Thank you.
Dr. Dyer: So to reiterate, the $795,000,000 is the approved budget figure.
We will have to make by about the end of September of this year determinations
on where the reductions should be or the containment measures should be. It
is not something that needs to be decided today or tomorrow. Now accordingly
we advanced three alternatives as possible ways that those cost reductions or
cost containment measures might be taken. We advanced them initially on June
30th at the Policy Council Meeting, of course, Commissioner Gibson is the City
of Miami member to that and he is one of the very active members and I want to
thank Father Gibson for his not only attendance but his comments because I
think he is very much in a position to speak officially and speak very substant-
ly to the issue and he certainly does that. The three alternatives if I might
just very briefly outline them are first what we call Alternative "A" is to
reduce the number of vehicles from 150 to 136. In other words cut the number
of vehicles by 14. Now that essentially is cutting our spare vehicles, those
that will be required as start up, start up of the system. We're cutting 14
out, that would leave us a maximum of 16 additional ones for our spares and
anybody that knows anything about the detailed operations of a transit system
would tell you or tell us that we're starting to short the number of spare cars
we have when we reduce them that many. Generally the standard in the industry
is you need 20% at least vehicle reserves especially on new systems. Washington
Metro today, for example, has 170 cars that are required to operate and they
have 130 spares. We're talking about 120 cars to operate and 16 spares so
there is a major difference in the amount of spares we're talking about. The
second thing that we propose in the alternative is to defer the parking struc-
tures at about eleven stations with parking structures being built only at the
southern station which is termed Dadeland South and the farther -most northwest
station which is Okeechobee, Okeechobee being here and Dadeland South being
here. By deferring the parking structures, however, we are saying we will go
ahead and design all of the parking structures. We are required by federal
statutes and the federal regulations to retain what is called a 10% Program
Reserve. It's 10% of procurement and 10% of construction. It's $45,000,000.
You cannot Jimmy that figure at all. We would, of course, propose the parking
structures would be the last things built under any circumstances with the ad-
ditional available program reserve at the end we would go back and built all
of the parking structures for which we had funds. That's as such we believe
an appropriate way to proceed on deferring parking structures. $26,000,000 is
saved by deferring parking structures. A third part of Alternative "A" is to
lower or bring to grade five line sections on the site which involve three
streets within the City of Miami. One of those line sections is in the City
of Coral Gables. You do have on the far wall a to scale drawing of exactly
what that looks like in terms of the elevations. It is a 3% grade, the actual
line, the first large set of numbers show 22nd Avenue where the system would
fly over a set of trains is shown on this going to surface. It then proceeds
from 22nd all the way along 27th where the system would under this alternative
come back up and go over 27th Avenue. It would in this alternative require the
,'losing of 24th Avenue and would require rerouting, realigning the local street
:system so that it could accomodate that. That would be, of course, part of
'hat alternative. The estimated savings is almost $5,000,000 by lowering the
:system to grade at five sections. That is Alternative "A", it does result in
.1 savings of about $42,700,000.
nayor Ferre: How much?
Dr. Dyer: $42,780,000, it does bring us below the $795,000,000 budget figure,
Alternative "H" is where we begin to sacrifice the system as opposed to mating
only cuts within the system itself, Alternative "8" begins to sacrifice the
system. It is the one where we propose to.,,.
Mayor Ferre: John, you'd better speak up a little louder because I'm having
trouble hearing you.
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Dr. byere All right, let ffle Move the mike just a little closer, AlterhatiVe
"B" is the one where we proposed to defer a station, %4hen you defer a station
you for all practical purposes kill that Station, it cannot actually be built
in the future. ...
Mayor Ferre• Once ou
y y" go to that system, the natural scale that you have tip
there which is going to the ground can you ever build it up again'?
Dr, Dyers No, you really could not.
Mayor Ferrer So it kills the possibility of ever elevating that.
Dr. Dyer: That's correct. It does not as such, it impacts the system yes, by
bringing it to grade but the system would continue to operate and have twenty
stations to serve people. When you drop a station you in effect will lose
four, six, eight thcusand riders a day plus you lose the opportunities for
development around the station.
Mr. Plummer: John, let me ask this question because you know I'm one, Rose is
another, we suffer every morning on this crossing of the concrete slab - Dixie
Highway. Has any consideration been given- and I know you're looking strictly
at Mass Transit and that's your bailiwick - now, there was once a proposal to
take and either tunnel under Dixie or fly over Dixie so that the people such
as myself who suffer a ten second light in trying to cross north on 17th Avenue
and which four cars can make it through legally the light, OK, now realizing
you're doing this for a savings but is it possible, I know it costs money to
go up in the air and come back down, that you could propose that this stay all
at ground level, save your money but put a fly -over which would tremendously
help. What I'm saying, have you gone beyond the stage of just what is the need
of Rapid Transit but yet address to what I would say is the need of everyone
living south of Dixie Highway who has to fight that every morning? That might
eliminate objections'of bringing this down to at some places grade level. Now
I know that the other objection is the fact of you know it's a Chinese Wall and
things of that nature but I'm hoping that you're looking at it from more than
just transit need but yet a community need.
Dr. Dyer: I think the answer is absolutely yes, we have looked at it. We know
what the cost of elevation of the cross streets are and they run depending on
the length of the cross streets, width is another thing, 4 to $7,000,000 a
cross street.
Mr. Plummer: Per cross street?
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cross,, yes, sir. Because you have to back up substantially and
to getover and secondly you have to solve off that ramp structure,
north and how people go south. By going north and south into the
corridor,In both cases you end up having to acquire additional
It i:: a costly proposition because of right-of-way requirements
cross streets today.
Mr. Fosmoen: There is another solution to your problem and that is to adjust
the timing on the signal so that it is not preferential to north -south traffic
but preferential to east -west traffic and, in fact, if we adjust the signal so
that north -south tr"ffic into downtown flows less easily it may in turn increase
ridership on the tr<<nsit system. So you could solve it with a structural or
another....
Mr. Plummer: Speak..ng as a taxpayer and net a Commissioner looking and seeking
relief, you know I have told that department in my estimation that they are,
in fact, making it as a penalty for my living in the City.
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Plummer: And i did my heart yesterday morning so Much good, do you know
stuck behind me 87 cars behind? Merritt Stierheirn and he was in a hurry,
you could see he wa; in a hurry and let me tell you something, it took him al-
most 20 minutes to let througl the intersection, Now possibly that kind of
frustration might d) my cause some good.
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Mt. Fosmioeh: You can adjust the tithing on the signal for fat less than
$4.000,000 and if there is an alternative to that north -south traffic, i.e. a
transit system it May be a lot Mote possible.
Mr. Plummer: 1 hope you're right but I don't think so.
Dr. Byer: If 1 might pick up then, the second alternative or what we tentative-
ly termed Alternative "B" would defer a single station and that alternative,
simply to show how it would work, we propose to defer the Washington Heights
Station. The cost of that station and all of its facilities is about $5,200,000.
The third alternative, Alternative "C" was simply to defer three stations in-
stead of one and to defer part of the line, deferring the line south between
Dadeland North and Dadeland.South Station about 3,000 almost 4,000 feet of
guideway plus a station also to defer Washington Heights and Santa Clara
stations. The total on that deferral is $43,000,000 and a little over. The
point is in Alternative 1 - no deferral of the system. It does impact obviously
in the south by the surface movements. Alternative 2 defers one station, be, -
gins to sacrifice the system....
Mayor Ferre: What is the saving on 2 again?
Dr. Dyer: Two, a total savings of $43,000,000, it includes deferring fourteen
vehicles, all of the parking structures again and the Washington Heights Sta-
tion. By deferring the parking structures though I might say we're only talk-
ing about deferring from 9,900 spaces we would have if built all the structures
to 7,500 so we're still going to have 7,500 parking spaces around the stations
even though we're deferring the structures.
Mrs. Gordon: What was the original amount? far
Mr. Plummer: Wouldn't it be better to say reducing rather than defer? You
see, when you say defer everybody has the immediate impression that you're
going to defer parking - that's elimination. And I think if you would use the
.terminology that you're going to reduce parking rather than to defer you might
not be in a serious problem.
Mrs. Gordon: What was the original number you had?
Dr. Dyer: 9,900 down to 7,500. The other thing I woulc hope, as I mentioned
earlier, we would come back and be able to build major ',arts of that parking
from the program reserve in the last two years. That's when the construction
of the parking structures would take place anyway, they would be the last
things built in the whole system.
Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask you a question. These three alternatives are not
carved in stone?
Dr. Dyer: No.
Mrs. Gordon: You could logically take and make a combination of things, a
fourth alternative from those that are least objectionaLle in these three. I
would like to state my objection to the third one in "A' and I would state my
objection to the third one in "B". I don't have a stro:g objection to defer-
ring the second one in "C" which is the Dadeland South station because you
have a Dadeland Station North. You're really accomodating the area to some
degree, not to the great degree you would have had you lad them both. Also
in the second item under "A" you might find that you cot.ld eliminate some and
not all as you have here, "defer all parking structures...", you might include
some and come up with the total dollar saving that you're looking for.
Mayor Ferre: Why don't we hear from Fosmoen and then we can make our respect-
ive points.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, fine, I'm finished anyway.
Mayor Ferre: Doctor, are you about finished?
pr. Dyer; There was a very thoughtful letter written, I think you probably
have copies of it, signed by Mr, Fosmoen to me,
Mayor Ferre; Yes, we have it,
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Dt Dyer: i don't knotty whether it Would be appropriate.fok me to cottent oh
the three questions ;raised ok to Sully indicate We Will respond to that at
length.
Mayor Ferret 14o I'll tell you why don't you let hitt take the presentation to
the Cofftiiission and to the public then you can respond to the five question$
you raised.
Mr. Postmen: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to ask Jack Luft who is much closer to this
issue than I am to state the administration's postion and to indicate to you
the questions that we've raised with Mr. Dyer. Jack.
Mr. Jack Luft: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, ladies and gentlemen,
the administration, of course, actively supports a transit system. We see
tremendous potential in this for the City. We feel that the system we voted
on March 7th represents the finest system possible to build for Dade County.
Consistent with Commissioner Plummer's comment a few moments ago we would
stress that we consider it incumbent that we build ultimately that system upon
which voted and which represents the finest possible. The administration's
position on this matter simply is this: That in an effort to defer funds we
not take any actions that represent irreconcilable or irreparable modifications
in this system. In that regard the administration is opposed to part (3) of
Alternative "A". We are opposed to deferring the Washington Heights Station
in Alternative "B" and we are opposed to deferring the Santa Clara Station in
Alternative "C". If you'll permit I'll address those three specific issues
directly and then we can proceed to the questions tc Mr. Dyer. The five at
grade sections that have been proposed represent some 12,000 lineal feet to
be placed between Vizcaya and Douglas Road. The cost of that land on the open
market today is in excess of $4,000,000. We have an unparalled opportunity at
this point in time to use that land not only for trarsit purposes but joining
together with segments to the south and to the north we can provide a lineal
corridor through the heart of this city connecting major activity centers. It
will provide open space and bikeways for the people of this city. That is the
kind of opportunity that we will not have again. We feel the demand and usage
for that facility is considerable, we think it extremely unwise vis-a-vis the
small cost savings, 4.9 million dollars out of total system cost to forego this
opportunity at this time. We're most eager to seek alternative cost saving
measures. As far as the deferment of the Washington Heights Station, the Wash-
ington Heights Station here is your rapid transit line coming through the down-
town area and heading to the west. The Washington Heights Station has been
proposed just north of the Government Center. The issue here is quite simple.,
the Government Center is a specialty station, it will be some several stories
in the air and will serve directly the Government Center and the core shopping
district. We cannot serve the Washington Heights Community in the sense that
any of the other transit stations will serve their communities on this system.
Moreover, we are now submitting an application for the development of the New
Town in Town in that area to the east of the railroad tracks toward Biscayne
Bay and that community too will lie directly in the service area of the Washing-
ton Heights Station. We feel that to defer the Washington Heights Station
would do irreparable harm to the redevelopment plans that this community and
this administration is actively pursuing for the New Washington Heights Com-
munity. That station is essential to the future of that area, to eliminate it
would be to eliminate much of that future. The third issue is with regards to
the Santa Clara Station. ... Now we have much the same situation in Santa
Clara as we do at Washington Heights. We have a specialty station in the Civic
Center, that station will serve the Medical Center Complex. It will not have
parking, it will no'. have drop off facilities for park and ride or kiss and
ride, it will have one bus bay or two bus bays on 16th Street west bound. That
station is meant to serve pedestrian waok-to access. It cannot, it will not
serve the Santa Clara area. On this map I've illustrated some important points
to consider. We hale a produce center immediately adjacent to the proposed
Santa Clara Station, we have an expansion of the industrial area of the Santa
Clara district, both from the Garment Center on the east and to the west.
That area is an area that we have some problems with. We are losing employ-
ment, we are .osing industries to westward expansion in the Palmetto area.
The primary attraction that we have in Santa Clara is that it is close to em-
ployment to people who work in that area. That is the principle advantage we
have and this Santa Clara Station will inm►easurably improve that advantage.
It will provide a direct means for people to gain access to their place of
work. We feel that the Santa Clara Station thus offers us tremendous potent-
ial in the future for enhancing those job opportunities, for stabilizing that
Santa Clara industrial district and indeed much as Washington Heights Station
provide the future for dealing with problems we have not been able to solve
today. The red lines on here represent bus lies. Twentieth Street is $ major
east -west corridor for buses. They will miss the Civic Center Station to at-
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Center COmplex is an impossible task if we expect to serve those people on those
bus routes that will be tying to transit we must have the Santa Clara Station
That is the way to get people to and from their work most efficiently for the
City. We ate thus opposed to the elimination of the Santa Clara Station, We
will address the issues of alternative cost saving devices after Mr, Dyer re
sponds to the questions that we've submitted to him by letter and of which this
Commission has a copy. Are there any questions?
Dr, Dyer: I might add, Mr. Vice -Mayor, that we in reviewing these alternatives
indicated at the last meeting of the Policy Council, and I'm sure Commissioner
Gibson could reaffirm this, but we were prepared to recommend Alternative "A"
in September, Alternative "A" does not involve deleting or deferring any sta.-
tions, it does deal with this business of the surface line to the south but it
does not recommend deferring any stations. We would certainly be in the same
posture in terms of recommendations as the City Administration is on building
every station and making every station work to fit the neighborhood needs, com-
munity needs and also create the opportunities in the community that do not
now exist simply because the transit system is not there. The next item, as I
understand it, Mr. Mayor, is for me to respond just verbally to three or five
questions, I guess there are actually three questions. Very briefly, and we'd
be delighted to put these in writing back to the City Manager, the first one:
Can an additional six or seven vehicles be eliminated in lieu of at grade sta-
tions? As I indicated a little earlier we are of the opinion we really need
150 vehicles. With some pretty severe sacrifices in terms of spares we feel
we can get it down to 136. To reduce below that is to bring us below a 10% re-
serve for spares which also includes maintenance. Now one of the problems that
everyone of the new systems has had is they do not have their cars shaken down
and all the bugs out up until they have operated sometimes five years. That's
been noted in a lot of places and generally even with a mature system they
talk about the need for 20% spares because obviously you have to maintain the
cars on a continuing basis, you simply can't run them all 18 hours a day and
do no maintenance. Accordingly we honestly do not see how any reduction in
136 vehicles could occur. There are a couple of reasons for that in addition.
First, we must order vehicles in volumes of 100 or more. These vehicles cost
about $700,000 a piece. These are intended to last at least 25 years, some of
them up to 40 years and the escalation rate on vehicles is such that those that
we don't order this year four years from now will cost almost twice as much as
they cost today. Washington Metro paid just over $320,000 a piece in 1972 for
the vehicles that they now have. Today they will cost $700,000-plus thousand
for the same vehicle to be built. Thus, both from cost and need view we don't
see any possibilities on reduction in the number of vehicles. The test track
issue is number 2. A test track is used primarily in the yard and shop to
test vehicles new as they come, test them once they've been repaired to deter-
mine if the bug ....
Mayor Ferre: Can't you do that on the regular line?
Dr. Dyer: Well, that's one of the things that we believe is a very unwise deci-
sion. Technically it could be done, let me try to go through what other prop-
erties throughout the country have done and what we know about. Examples, the
BART System that has been plagued with rail operational difficulties did not
build a test track to start with. They felt so strongly about it they went
back and built a test track two and a half years ago at a'cost of about nine-
teen million dollars. Had they built it initially it was about six or seven
million. The test track we're talking about is about eight million. The Lin-
denwald Line, the POrt Authority Transit Corporation which is the corporation
that runs the most efficient transit system in the United States outside of
Philadelphia into Philadelphia did not have a test track. A year or so ago
they just started building a Lest track after being in operation for six or
eight years because of the importance of a test track to them. They're clearly
the best one in the country. Washington and Toronto, the two that are refer-
enced on your paper are systems of a different nature than what Dade County
and Miami are going to be building. Washington and Toronto both are so large
comparitively speaking they can get away without test tracks. The reason is
a lot of their main line track is four tracks, it's not two tracks the main
line is four tracks. They can easily enough switch out and use a single one
of those for test track purposes. We will not be able to do that because our
main line will be two tracks, not four. Landscaping cost is a possibility.
We don't have the detailed cost of the guideway linesection only landscaping
cost, we have a consolidated landscaping cost for stations and guideways and
on the south line it is about eight to nine million dollars. So the point 1
think is that we would welcome a series of recommendations, proposals or what-
ever from the City in the next thirty days on how these costs can be reduced.
I think as Mr. Fosmoen said farily early on we're very desirous to build both
the rapid transit system stage one of 201 niles and the downtown people mover.
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Obviously we could handle theee outs by hot bui,ldi.nq a downtown people Mover
but we do not think that is the proper policy not do we think it is a proper
posture for either Dade County or the City of Miami to take. We do think the
downtown people mover is extremely important to this area but, and it is import,.
ant as touch so to the County as it is to the City. So we don't want to get into
the business of saying, "Well, we will just not build the downtown people Metter*
we can easily handle all the reductions at that point" but that's just not the
proper way to go we believe.
Mayor Ferre: John, how much does that test track cost?
Dr. Dyer: The test track is approximately 7 to $8,000,000.
Mayor Ferret Seven to eight?
Dr. Dyer: Yes, seven to eight, I've forgotten the exact dollar figure.
Mayor Ferre: And the landscaping cost on the guideways, you've touched on that?
Dr. Dyer: The total on the south line is eight to nine million - total - that's
stations, the entire 10.1 miles that are on the south and....
Mayor Ferre: Don't you really think that we could do without some landscaping
for a while and not cut other areas that are so essential?
Dr. Dyer: Well, we're uncertain about that. There are some possibilities, Mr.
Mayor, that the City could contribute some landscaping cost if you wanted to.
That's one of the things distinctly possible.
'''Mayor Ferre: You tell us where we can find the money and I'd be happy to recom-
mend it to the Manager.
Dr. Dyer: Well, I honestly don't know how to do it. The City of Hialeah did
contribute $3,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: The City of Hialeah got some very important concessions and, in
addition, I want to remind you that you barely passed this thing in an election
by less than 3,000 votes as I recall of which the City of Hialeah contributed
very little since I want to remind you that it went down to defeat in the City
of Hialeah.
Dr. Dyer: I understand that.
- Mayor Ferre: And I
the City of Miami.
just want to reiterate that it did not go down to defeat in
.... Wait, we're not escalating now we're just leveling.
Dr. Dyer: I think that we would like to say we don't think that this issue
is of such size and magnitude that it should involve a substantial dispute be-
tween the City and the County. We think there are ways to resolve this and we
would welcome some constructive proposals being thought through by the staff
and the board and forwarded to us as proposals of some type. This is the best
first cut we can do, we don't claim it is by any means the final one and we'd
like to see the discussion go on for the next month or so and then conclusions
be reached in September. It is not a critical thing that it be resolved today.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Questions?
Mr. Luft: Mr. Mayor, I have one question. I think Dr. Dyer made a significant
observation when he said that the Lindenwald Line and the BART Line did not
build a test track initially but they came back at a later date and built the
test track. My question to Dr. Dyer is if we do not build this test track init-
ially could we come back at a later date and build our test track.
Dr. Dyer: I think the answer is absolutely yes but I don't think we can stand
the start up operating problems that HART had because they didn't build the
test track. That's the big thing that we're so frightened about. If we don't
have a test track the system doesn't operate, we get every other train is a
bad order train which means the system shuts down every hour, nobody can stand
that and that's what the result of not having a test track leads you to.
Mr. Luft: I might make one additional observation. Of course, BART was a
state of the art technology, they were dealing with a new system that no one
else had triel, We are going to be on a joint procurement program with Balti-
more on our vehicles and it is quite possible that Baltimore will be testing
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the sate vehicles that we will be running prior to us getting theM. Iitn Also
wondering Marta, Atlanta is not building a test track, Toronto does net hatfre
a test track and, in fact, Toronto's System was about 2E miles in length, Very
close to what ours' is. 1 talked to a Mr. Patterson who is an official with the
Toronto system and he concedes that while he would like to have a test track they
do their testing in the evenings after the system is closed and they run it oh
the line so by conceding that their system operates very well and efficiently
he had to acknowledge that, in fact, they are surviving suite well without their
test track.
Mayor Ferre: And save $8,000,000 or ...
Mr. Luft: Well, whether we save it now or later build it our only point here
in the administration is try to find an option that alloys us to build the best
system that we have to build now and then come back later on with those things
that we could add. I hate to think of an at grade for tie next 100 years along
Dixie Highway.
Mayor Ferre: John, let me ask you this question with regards to the test track.
I notice in Washington that the Metro system is shut dowii on Saturdays and Sun-
days. Would this system be shut down on Sundays?
Dr. Dyer: Our current operating plan would say not shut down at all. One of
the unique things about Miami and Dade County that is not unique to D.C. is there
is a lot of activity going on on Saturday and Sunday in this area. The buses,
for example, carry 85-90% of their weekday loads on Saturday and Sunday. That
is just totally unheard of elsewhere in the country. Butwe see the need for
this system to operate seven days a week, not five. If : might, Mr. Mayor, sug-
gest if this would be a reasonable thing. I think the d..scussion is to where
we could respond to Mr. Fosmoen's letter back to him or '.he City Manager, give
the specific detailed responses and request the City perhaps to come up with a
set of specific recommendations in the next thirty days or so, get them back to
us and let us see if we can't get this worked out as a mutually agreeable reso-
lution of the problem over the next thirty days or so.
Mr. Plummer: John, let me ask you a question because it is going to be raised
so we'd might as well raise it right now and get it on the record. John, you
are proposing money saving factors, is anywhere else other than the City of
Miami being proposed to be cut to save as the City of Miami is being proposed?
Dr. Dyer: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Where?
Dr. Dyer: Coral Gables.
Mr. Plummer: They're going to lose a station?
Dr. Dyer: No, one surface line in the City of Coral Gables comes down to sur-
face.
Mr. Plummer: But I mean are they proposed to lose the station?
Dr. Dyer: Well, as I indicated to you we are not prepared to recommend killing
a station. We think all twenty stations ought to be built and our recommendation
would be Alternative "A" which does not defer a station or essentially delete a
station.
Mr. Plummer: Is Coral Gables proposed to reduce their parking facilities?
Dr. Dyer: The only parking in the City of Coral Gables
ing spaces under the University of Miami station. Those
the surface parking in all of the stations in the City c
Mr. Plummer: Since a great deal of this runs in Dade Cc
area, are there any proposed reductions in the county?
is at surface, 225 park -
would be built as would
f Miami as well.
unty, the unincorporated
Dr. Dyer; Oh yes. The elimination of station, no elimination of
all,
Mr. P .ununer: Reduced in parking?
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Mr. Plummet: to the oou ity
br. Dyer: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And at grade, since a great deal of this will run in from badeland
which is unincorporated and it Will run notth of the City boundaries, is any of
that proposed at grade?
Dr. Dyer: Right now, and back to the grade question which f have not answered
satisfactorily for you I'm sure, right now the system as recommended including
the surface lines has 73,000 feet in the air and roughly 12,000 feet at surface.
So it's five times as much aerial and the rest is surface. Now it is accurate
I think what Mr. Luft said earlier about the 7, 8,000 feet is involved here in
these five sections. It is roughly a mile all totaled. The point I think is
what we have tried to do is bring those sections that are technically or oper-
ationally feasible, bring them down to surface. That's what this amounts to.
The rest of it, for example, there's not enough space between the Dadeland South
and the Dadeland North Station to even bring the thing down to surface. If you
brought it down to surface you couldn't get back up at all. That's the reason
why there is not a recommendation there. Where there is enough space that's
where the recommendations are.
Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Dyer, address yourself again, please, to the reason you're
not recommending the Dadeland South elimination.
Dr. Dyer: The reason we're not recommending the Dadeland South Station is those
two stations work as a pair. They work as a pair because the Dadeland South Sta-
Sr.tion which is the southernmost station services all of South Dixie Highway, Per-
rine, Cutler Ridge, all that area. The Dadeland North Station is essentially
the station that serves southwest Dade County, the Kendall area and all out even
as far out as here because Snapper Creek Expressway comes in immediately north
of this station right here. We already have worked out with the Florida Depart-
ment of Transportation so that they're going to be building direct ramps into
that station.
Mrs. Gordon: How far apart are they?
Dr. Dyer: They are almost a mile, just over 4,500 feet.
Mr. Grassie: Something like six blocks.
Dr. Dyer: No, 4,500 feet, almost a mile, it's almost ten blocks.
Mr. Plummer: John, let me ask one other question. You know with all the prob-
lems that you're now incurring of having to reduce, realistically do we have
any chance at all in the future of the line that runs out Flagler Street as
proposed and Douglas Road as proposed - don't let me say that because I know it
fluctuates back and forth - you know what realistic chances do we have of what
you initially proposed as a complete system?
Dr. Dyer: I think they are extremely good. The highest volume line in terms
of the second stage is the east -west line, I think we can say that right now,
in other words the one that is running this way. The exact location of it has
by no means been settled but clearly the east -west line somewhere around the
Palmetto Expressway into downtown Miami and maybe up this way a distance prob-
ably not all the way up to 163rd Street but that is a very high volume line and
I simply would say, Commissioner, of all of the proposals we know anything about
in the United States that has been submitted to the federal government of this
procedure, the first stage system in Miami was the most cost effective submis-
sion that they've ever had. Now we don't know how the second one is going to
:Mack up but if you compare it to the ltlanta one we're way above Atlanta, in
z.erms of ridership, costs, how many miles you can build for the money and every-
thing else. So I think we will look very good in competition for the second
stage but it is about three years away. We simply cannot even get eligible to
submit until we've gotten the construction on this one well under way.
Mr. Plummer: Just my final question as always, John, when is the first shovel
going to go into the ground, when is the first rider going to ride and would
you please refer to the downtown people mover in the same context?
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Dr, Dyer: The first shovel in the ground before the end of this calendar year,
we can keep on schedule. Our first rider, early 1983, we don't have an abso-
lute opening date scheduled at this point but early 83 certainly before June.
The downtown people mover, proposals ate in yesterday, the committee will be
going through the scoring process to award the preliminary engineering contract,
it's 15 months of preliminary engineering alternatives analysis and environMental
impact statement, we should be in a position to award a contract type construca,
tion thing in about 17 to 18 months. it should be built, it will go very much
quicker than the Rapid Transit because it is a lot smaller and all of the final
engineering has already been done by the manufacturer. It should be in place
in 82 to late 83. We have an almost perfect fit with the DPM opening just a
little bit before the rapid system does.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, two observations, I don't know whether the commission
is going to reach a specific set of recommendations today or not. We have,
as Dr. Dyer indicated a $40,000,000 reserve that's over and above contingencies
that are included in the budget. If we're going to take the next month to look
at ways of saving money between the two staffs I think that one of the things
that this Commission could do today is direct us to look only at cost saving
measures that will not result in irrevocable decisions, we look at things that
can be added, we reduce now for things can be added after the bids are out.
There is still that $40,000,000 reserve.
Mrs. Gordon: I agree.
Mr. Fosmoen: If we decide to put in the dipsy-do along Dixie Highway that's
it, that's a permanent decision.
Mrs. Gordon: The roller coaster.
Mr. Plummer: I wish you guys would quit editorializing.
Mrs. Gordon: I call it the roller coaster, you call it the dipsy-do.
Mayor Ferre: ... Before we listen to you, Mrs. Range has been here for a
couple of hours. Can we give her the courtesy of listening to her, because
she was up? She had previously been up, I don't want to start that kind of a
thing but out of courtesy to Mrs. Range, if you don't mind and I apologize for
that.
Mrs. Athalie Range: I appreciate it very much and especially do I appreciate
Mr. Nesbitt allowing me to come.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, with your permission if that is all right.
Mrs. Range: Thank you very much. I would have just a few words to say, Mayor
Ferre and Commissioners, and it would be that I am in complete agreement that
these stations do not be cut out. I think the need is there for both the Wash-
ington Heights Station and the Santa Clara Station. I would take just a moment
if I may to correct any misconception that might have gone on in the prior
meeting when it was brought to my attention that there was some thought that I
was supporting the idea of cutting out the Santa Clara Station. This has not
been my thinking at any time. At that meeting... Yes, well I understand but
I am saying here and now publicly for the benefit of all that I am in complete
accord of having those two stations remaining along with everything else. My
only thinking on that point was that because of a restaurant situation, the
Wendy's situation,I was asking if the parking could be arranged so that they
could remain but as far as the stations, yes, we need those stations. I don't
think we need to continue to reiterate that we supported Rapid Transit, we were
promised certain things and we certainly expect these promises to be carried
out. I think with all due respect to the Cuban community that the Cuban com-
munity in the Santa Clara Allapattah area supported far greater than any other
section of the Cuban community the referendum, consequently, I feel that we
must stay together and that we must press forward for those stations. Now this
is what I would have to say in regard to this.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you Mrs. Range. All right, sir.
Mr. Robert Nesbitt: Thanks, Mr, Mayor, I am Robert Nesbitt and I'm with labor.
And I've been with Rapid Transit, a pro -Rapid Transit supporter when it was Mtn,
popular in certain areas even to mention it because we discussed it at one
point in time,
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Mayon Ferret That's bights
Mr. Nesbitt: Bowever, at the titre they were talking about constructing a Rapid
Transit System in bade County they were going with figures of 1972 when an ounce
of gold you could buy in Europe for $18, even $16 in some places. The Yen
at that time was 320 yen to a dollar, today it is about 197. The Franks were
4.5, the Mark was 6. Belgium Franks, Swedish Franks, all were very high.
Mayor Ferre: You must have an awful lot of those things somewhere because you
seem to know a lot.
Mr. Nesbitt: No, I travel a lot, I'in with the scene. But I want to bring
this up that today they call our dollar the monkey money. I left Denmark just
the other day, a cup of coffee is $2.75. My reason for bringing this up, we
are spending two-thirds our moneys for material. They are talking about 10%
cut here, 10% reserve there. Now if the dollar has devaluated more than 300%
and we are buying foreign materials to construct Rapid Transit in Miami what
are we getting out of that part of the Rapid Transit? All of our moneys are
being spent abroad. They are talking about it will cost $795,000,000 and they
know damned well it's not going to cost that amount. It is going to cost any
way from a billion to seven hundred billion dollars. I was living in San Fran-
cisco when they started BART, Bay Area Rapid Transit. We went up with the 1%
increase in taxes for BART, you're paying that today. And when they got the
material from Belgium which they started from 1964 they paid 500% mark up on
it. That's why the materials today are so expensive all over the world, our
dollar had a value, it hasn't got a value. My only argument with Rapid Transit
today is the Kaiser Study which I have all their materials. In 1976 they had
a study on the preliminary engineering developing of all rapid transit. To
date it has gone up 250%. What we should be fighting for, not that they're
Alp going to cut out the stations in the black community as such because what they
are doing, you're starting north and you're starting south and you're caromed
back into the black area. When you get there you're going to cut out all of
the benefits that you promise us around the black stations. You're cutting
out the parking, economic development, commercial development, you're not even
giving us your expertise to give us the knowledge of going into certain areas,
how to develop our community. So what we're going to have is a Georgia jump-
off station and that's all we're going to get out of it. Now I lived with
rapid transit, I love rapid transit, I lived in New York for 31 years and I
think it is something that the poor people need but I think honesty is the
question up here today - have we got enough money to develop this rapid transit
without sacrificing the black stations? Now this is the last part of my dis-
cussion. They're asking us at Washington Heights, Culmer, Santa Clara to do
away with parking or other facilities that they promised us but we cannot go
for the route alignment as to the acceptance of A or B at Washington Heights
until we find out where are you going to put the Civic Center. Now if you're
going to put the Civic Center in one particular area we can benefit with Cul-
mer, Santa Clara as well as Washington Heights but so far I don't think they
know where they're going with this station. And if they could only let us
know one thing- have we got enough money at this particular time for rapid
transit, if not we should find ways of getting that money without the taxpayers
having to pay it at a later date. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Nesbitt. All right, Jackie Bell and then this
gentleman here. We have five other speakers, oh we have more, we have about
eight. My goodness, well, we're going to have to then limit you to three
minutes. Can you do it in three minutes? Anybody object to that? Ok, so
that way we can get you all in. Go ahead.
Mr. Jackie Bell: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'm Jackie Bell and I am the
Chairperson for the Washington Heights Station. We thank the City of Miami
for supporting us as we will support you that the Washington Heights Station
remain. As you know we have been before you for the past umpteen years try-
ing to redevelop that area. If that station or if Culmer Station is not placed
there then the revitalization of that community is zero. So we thank you and
we will support you and we know that you will be supporting us.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Jackie.
Mr. Bernard Steiner: Bernard Steiner from the Vizcaya section. Commissioners
at this point the people of the Vizcaya area keep asking a few questions about
our forthcoming transit system. During voting time whether we wanted transit
or not the pro transit loudly voiced that we have enough money to build the
first phase of a railroad system. Now we hear of economy measures and we have
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tQ cut this and that to make a go of it. The big joke of the day is to coige
down to ground level withour tracksto save money. What are we building, a
roller coaster? Leave that for Watson Island. I know crossing the Miami River
entails going pretty high then coming down grade to the next station, this can't
be helped. Only doing this at ground level track job in another area is really
crazy. Do you know what will happen if this is proposed': Fences will have to
be built for safety. But is it safety for kids? Kids siart climbing the fences
to get to the other side - kids are daredevils and defy ences. What will hap-
pen if there are fatalities and lawsuits? It will cost Wore than having the
rails above ground. To save money let's purchase these ,xtra trains and buses
in the future when transit warrants it, not put our apples in one barrel to
find out later a bunch of apples on the bottom have been crushed by overloading.
No other city having transit would think of going on the ground) maybe under,
unfortunately,we can't so we have to keep it above groun<. I hope in cutting
expenses the people who are looking for angles and savino costs don't tamper
with the proposed barriers for noise in the future. We'.e had meetings upon
meetings - I hope it has been fruitful. So let's get down to construction and
build this transit system before some other tax reform comes around and we find
money is not now available for this project. We want the system for 1983 to
be augumented, not the next century. We will be too old to enjoy it. So let's
get to work and construct. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: You and Nesbitt must have gotten together. All right, Joe.
Mr. Joe Avalos: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is
Dade Cycle Shop and I'm representing about 5 bicycling o
like to point out that for approximately seven or eight
fore the Decade of Progress Bond Issue, there has been a
discussion and promising to the bicycling community that
miter bikeway running somewhere along the line of the ra
from the north end of the county to the south end of the
Joe Avalos. I own
-ganizations. I'd
'ears, going back be -
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there would be a com-
ilroad tracks ideally
county.
Mayor Ferre: I see John Dyer shaking his head positively so I guess that means
yes.
Mr. Avalos: Bringing the rapid transit down to grade will irrevocably elimin-
ate the most effective commuter bikeway that could possibly be designed. It
would parallel Dixie Highway which is the busiest strect at the present time
I believe in Dade County or certainly one of them. If the bicyclists are con-
tinued to be forced to compete in a hostile environment which they are at the
present time you're going to have more and more fatalities, bicycle riding,
encouraging the use of bicycles is certainly a very important part of rapid
transit. Every person you see on a bicycle is someone who is not driving a
car, not using natural resources, not creating parking problems. The idea of
bringing the thing down to grade and pinching off this bicycle path is just
so incredibly short sighted that I can't believe that anybody is considering
doing it. We have been promised a way to go from north to south in reasonable
safety, Mayor Ferre in particular is aware I think of the hazards of riding
some of our bicycle paths here in Dade County....
Mayor Ferre: I don't appreciate some of the comments.
Mr. Avalos: ...that are unlimited access to automobile:. I saw a little story
in the paper not too long ago that indicated that perha;s you understand what
I'm trying to say.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I know.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you misunderstand, it was not the path that was hazard-
ous.
Mayor Ferre: That's very funny, Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Isn't it convenient that he only gets hit in front of Mercy
Hospital? Wait until he rides in front of a funeral home.
Mayor Ferre: I don't look forward to that day, frankly.
Mrs. Joanne Holzhauser: I'm Joanne Holzhauser, 4232 Ingraham Highway, Coco-
nut Grove, I'm President of the Coconut Grove Civic Club. I want to add to
what these gentlemen have said about the reducing it to grade level, I think
this is one of those things that appears on the surface to be minor but rami-
fications are just enormous. The Civic Club has historically for at least
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twe1ve years MOW ft-Wight specif ,da11► for the enyironmenta1 integrity of Codohut
Grove. We take very seriously the hnhdreds of people. who ate members of the
club but the thousands of people in Coconut Grove who are not members, some of
them think they are. I'm always surprised when people who aren't members come
up and say, "I think it's great what we're doing" but they think they are and
I don't care if they pay, it's $2.00 a year dues anyway. But one of the things
we've struggled with for a long time is this very sophisticated thing of a
quality of life in Coconut Grove and we mean very seriously lige for the peo-
ple who can afford to live in nice houses on the water and like the people who
live in apartments, some of them now being upgraded substantially in the Douglas
Road area we are very serious about seeing this as an enormous threat to a num,
ber of the black families in Coconut Grove. I know it's a threat to the people
on the other side and that's also the City of Miami but within the limits of
Coconut Grove we feel this is a very very serious thing and we ask you please,
please to resist any effort to reduce any of it to grade level.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you, Joanne.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: My name is Emilio Lopez. I am here to speak in favor of
keeping the Washington Heights and the Allapattah Stations Allapattah, Wynd-
wood and cover that area over there and the Culmer Station.
Mayor Ferret You've got to get that Wyndwood in, huh?
Mr. Lopez: Yes, we have to put that in because if you remember when the vot-
ing came through we came through and we were What amazes me is that
when we first started working on this they told us that they had enough money,
that they had taken cost increases into consideration, a lot of things that
they told us and we went for it and now I am told that they're trying to cut.
Now one of the things that I want to say is that they always cut in the areas
that are mostly affected. You take the Wyndwood area and the Allapattah, there
are no entrances, if you check there are no other entrances except Miami Avenue,
1-95 and then when you down the expressway the 12th Avenue entrance and there
is no other way for commuters and people who live in that area to be able to
move and to get out to work. I think that you peeople should take into con-
sideration that those stations and those areas, it seems that you always try
to take away from the indigent population and keep them isolated from doing
some impact in the rest of the community. So, therefore, as a member of the
community and a participant and seeing what happens in that area all the time
I will support, and I hope that the commissioners will support the keeping of
the Wyndwood Allapattah or the Santa Clara Station, the Washington Heights
and do not touch the Culmer area either.
Ms. Fredricka Brown: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Fredricka Brown,
3645 Franklin Avenue and I represent, I am the chair person of CAA and CD Task
Force. We object to the downgrading of the rapid transit system as it would
apply in effect our area coming from Dadeland to Vizcaya. We see this as
hazardous to little children that might be attempting to climb the fence. We
see this as destructing the beauty of our community. Our group has really
done so much to improve and restore the beauty of Coconut Grove and would not
like Rapid Transit to take away the beauty of this particular area by coming
down on the Grove in the area in which the designers mentioned. We will appre-
ciate your help in helping us to continue to beautify our grove and not take
away from it. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you.
the blue jacket.
Mr. Mendez, and after Mr. Mendez the gentleman with
Mr. Jose Mendez: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'd just like to present to
you four steps that I have participated in on Rapid Transit: (11 I don't know
how many of you remember that I was very much against Rapid Transit and I'm
glad that Mr. Dyer is here. I have addressed myself before the vote to Mr.
Dyer expressing the needs of the Wyndwood Community. Many tithes I might sound
very selfish to many of you because very rarely I address myself in regard to
any other community besides the Wyndwood Community. Wyndwood fortunately is
my home away from home. Later on after we had invited Mr. Stierheim to come
to the Wyndwood Community and speak to some leaders of the community we were
promised, and it was publicly in the newspaper, we were promised Route 58, it
was a bus to go across the Wyndwood Community and because then for the first
time I thought that we were getting something in that community r then went
to the streets and I supported Rapid Transit. Later on, the day before the
vote was cast same of the city officials went to a public meeting at Robert
E. Lee and they asked me a question. They said to me, "Mendez, where are the
people supporting Rapid Transit?" There must have been about 15 to 20 people
in the audience and my response to them was the people that are supporting
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rapid transit in my community do not need to come to this meeting. rather Gib=
son can attest to that. they do not need to come to thi.o meeting, the people
that heed to come to this Meeting are those few i.n my community that: have a
doubt in regard to Rapid 'Transit. And as a consequence, Prr!cinr.t. 606 and 607
voted overwhelmingly for Rapid Transit and that was the biggemL demonstration
my community can have offered at that time as it has done on previous occasions.
And I'm saying to you now if I have been delivering what has been asked of me
in the past in regard to Rapid Transit how in the world can you possibly, Mr,
Dyer, come here and propose as one of the alternatives to eliminate one of the
stations that you have promised to that community? I cannot concede that, my
community will not concede that and I can assure you that there will not be
many easy days to come in the future if such proposition is going to carry
through. Thank you.
Mr. Gary Sissler: I am Gary Sissler, 1110 Brickell. I am the agent for the
owner of the property that is contemplated for the Santa Clara Station. I think
it is significant that the only mass transit station being considered that is
controversial pro or con up to the public involvement level has been Santa Clara.
You yourselves at the meeting last month as a result of the discussion on Santa
Clara caused a deferment on the Group V., three stations of which Santa Clara was
one. On the Dade County County Commissioners' level on their vote on the Group
V Stations two of the County Commissioners as a result of the controversial
Santa Clara justification voted against the Group V Stations. And I'd like to
summarize very briefly the three arguments against the Santa Clara Station.
First of all, by putting in the Santa Clara Station at N.W. 20th and 12th Aven-
ue you are eliminating the current new economic development in the area and that
is the most pressing need that has been identified in the Civic Center area and
that is convenient food at a reasonable price. Now this cannot be adequately
relocated because of the built up nature of the area to other locations to serve mr:
that Civic Center need. Secondly, by doing away with this type of economic
development at that location you are stripping the desperately needed teenage
minority jobs that have been established. At your last meeting Athalie Range
very eloquently stated that there were 70 minority teenagers employed at this
location. I suspect that she feels that both the mass transit station of Santa
Clara can go there and Wendy's can stay. There is no evidence to date that
that is a possibility. The owner has had two or three discussions with staff
people on the County level, has encouraged a meeting of a joint venture and
nothing has come of this of any specificity. Lastly and the gut issue, this
is a station that is just not economically feasible and justified. You have
the Civic Center Station three blocks to the south. You have the Allapattah
Station one block to the north. There are no two stations on the line with
the exception in the City Limits of downtown Miami that are this close together.
Sixty-seven percent of the operators coming into the Santa Clara Station are
destined to go into the Civic Center Station. Now at no where on the public
involvement level of Group V Committee was a budget mentioned for Santa Clara.
The Milestone Committee was not given the viable alternative as whether there
is really justification of a Santa Clara Station because of cost.
Mayor Ferre: All right, your three minutes are up.
Mr. Sissler: Now you are going to have an Agenda #20 this afternoon, Group V
and Santa Clara is being proposed. All I'm asking is that you weigh these
arguments, and this is a case that strikes very hard at the root of Proposition
Thirteen - this station is not justified.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Sissler, I meant to say that,I didn't want to interrupt you,
but I thought it might be more appropriate for you to save your comments to
the moment when we talk about that.
Mr. Sissler: Al right, but we understood we would not be allowed to discuss
it at that level and that's why we...
Mayor Ferre: Well in this Commission I've yet to see when somebody in the pub-
lic wanted to speak has been denied that right. You may be thinking about
other Commissions. The next speaker is Mr. Pa Ley and then Mr. Wellington
Rolle wants to spea}:.
Mr. Charles Harrison Pavley: My name is Charles Harrison Paw ley. I'm an
architect. I'm also the President of the South Florida Chapter of the Amer-
ican Institute of Architects. Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'm here also as
a representative of the Transportation Technical Advisory Committee. Now
this is part of the mass transit system, it is a committee that has been put
together by the County as a group of experts to give counsel to the mass tran-
sit system, to Dade County, to Kaiser Corporation. It is a group of seven
men- an urban designer, a transit system designer, a land use planner, a
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financial plahher, ail equal Oppatuhity advisor, an engineer and an architect.
Now this dotnmittee has hot reviewed these latest recommendations.
Mayor ?erre: Has hot?
Mr. Pawley: Has not. And what I'm bringing to you is iti the tine between now
and September when these recommendations Will come back to you I think that you
should look forward to getting a recommendation from this committee.
Mayor Ferre: It's very important.
Mr. Pawley: Because I think it is important to you and I would like to read
one very short thing under the three minutes. "It is the County's aim that the
Committee will furnish evaluations of local activities and efforts to the sound-
ness which a detached body of pre-eminent authorities acting individually or
collectively can most effectively render." That is the object of our committee,
that is what we intend to do for you as users of mass transit and I think we can
be very helpful.
Mr. Nesbitt: A point of special priviledge?
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, Mr. Nesbitt, I'll recognize you in just a second
but I see John shaking his head. Why don't you share that with all of us, John?
Do you want to share that with us, just tell us is this so, haven't these people
come back with a recommendation?
Dr. Dyer: Well, let me try to indicate, one of the things we try to do on this
whole system is get the best of national people who are nationally recognized
on everything that's involved. And one of the things that's involved, of course,
is architecture and also involved are systems and operations. There are seven
people, they are employed by Dade County on contract.
Mayor Ferre: We understand all that, John. Have they been consulted on this?
Dr. Dyer: Yes, absolutely yes.
Mayor Ferre: And have they given a recommendation?
Dr. Dyer: Absolutely yes. The priority engineering and operational analysis
was.... completed in August of 76
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute. Mr. Pawley was very specific. He said with these
new potential recommendations, that is coming to grade and the elimination of
stations. Now, have they been asked to look at that?
Dr. Dyer: That's what I'm telling you. Yes, sir. There was a complete analy-
sis of that done, the thing reviewed in great detail in August of 76 and then
in September of 76
Mayor Ferre: Well John, I think you and Charles need to talk because he is
shaking his head and you say yes and he says no.
Dr. Dyer: Ok, let me try to explain this, the reason he's not aware of it
if I might. The local architectural representative and the local engineering
representative rotate annually. His predecessor who was on there the previous
year reviewed it in great detail. He has not been part of the panel when it
was reviewed.
Mayor Ferre: I see. Well, I think you ought to talk about this. Mr.
I'm going to ... A11 right.
Mr. Nesbitt: Mr. Mayor, my question also is this: We got up here to ask ques-
tions and they haven't been answered.
Mayer Ferre: Yes, now is this to Mr. Dyer, I mean the questions you're asking?
Mr, Nesbitt: Yes, not only me, the others. Some of the questions that were
raised here by the speakers and we haven't heard a doggone thing from them.
Mayor Ferre: We're going to get Mr
Mr. Nesbitt; So we weren't ust talking here I hope.
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Mayor Perre: Mr. Nesbitt, we're going to ask Mr. Dyer to respond, t'ti sure he's
Not now, tmilio. I'll recognize you..,. I know, but the point is that
there are other people who want to speak.
Mr, Lopez: Somebody is lying to us then.
Mayor ?erre: Other people want to speak and We have to do this ih
Now I'll recognize you again if you have something else to say bUt
it is Mr. Wellington Rolle's turn. Who is the next speaker beyond
else? We've got the DDA and we've got two more speakers. Ok, and
go for the second round.
a fait way=
right now
him? Anybody
then we'll
Mr. Wellington Rolle: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, as we are all
aware I am not a supporter of Rapid Transit, I don't think that it fits into
the South Florida scene at all, I don't think the plan is a viable plan but in-
terestingly enough John Dyer made a comment momentarily when he was up at the
microphone about needing to save $43,000,000. But he also said that there was
no way that they could delete the people mover to save the $43,000,000 which
seemed to me should have been a consideration. Let's examine it on its face.
I don't know if you realize that the people who go out to the shopping centers
at Dadeland or Westland, it costs them nothing at all to park - the parking lots
are full. But to come downtown to park to the use the Omni facility which I
have my doubts about and to talk in terms of building a parking garage downtown
to accomodate people I've got to ask you and ask Dr. Dyer and other people let's
reassess the value of a downtown people mover in the City of Miami that's going
to take up an awful amount of space, that's going to eliminate a lot of public
properties and simply will not begin to produce the desired results. One of the
problems that I think that we have in the City of Miami and I think in Dade County
is that government has become insensitive to the needs of the community. Primar-
ily I think that the people mover in Dade County is a discriminatory tool that
is primarily racist in the sense that an individual who comes to town on a tran-
sit system on a second level with entrances planned for downtown structures on
a second level they need not touch down on the streets of the City of Miami,
they can come to town on the train, they can go to their offices, get on the
downtown people mover and go around the loop back to their offices and back home.
Now those of us who have lived in this city for over 40 years, we know what that
means and for those of us who are sophisticated enough and do the research and
follow along with the programs, we know what that means also. But we're saying
and I'm saying that the Downtown People Mover if you are considering it, and I'm
not a supporter of saving any of the stations, if we're talking about making
available forty million plus dollars then it certainly seems to me that the down-
town people mover is an item that could be deleted if you were going to give the
item some judicious wisdom. It would be a matter that could be eliminated. I'm
confident that downtown during the business day if they're like I am most people
are in their offices during the business days. The shopping crowds downtown,
it's not a very large number. So what I think needs to be examined is the value
of whether or not a downtown people mover as a means of saving a large number
of bucks might be of consideration in terms of finding a way to effect the sav-
ings that we're talking about. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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Mayer Perie: All tight, Mr. Rolle, thank you. The hest Speaker is...,
Okay, and then Mr. Urra l think wanted to say something.
Mr. Mariano Cruz: My name is Mariano Cruz and I live at 1227 NW 26 Street,
In Allapattah. I come in front of the Commission to let you know that I
and many other people in our community have put hundreds of hours since
1977-78 in this Rapid Transit planning and I see many members here, like
McDonald, Dr. Dyer, that knew me from me from all these meetings from not just
there in Allapattah but model cities and the one that has to do with the Culmer
Station. I don't see what...participate in the Committee and the elec-
tion and going door to door getting main support from the community for Rapid
Transit, we want those precincts in our area, the 55% to 45% margin,and I think
it is unfair to us after asking for all this participation that you do away
now with that Station, the Santa Clara Station and the Washington Heights Sta-
tion and the message of our community to you is -please, do not do away with.
those stations, find the money some way, there are other alternatives that you
mentioned, the Contingency money that is there, many other things to do, but
don't do away with the Station. Once you do away with those stations there is
no other way to put them back in the System, thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you. Mr. Urra.
Mr. Orlando Urra: My name is Orlando Urra, I'm Chairman of Community Develop-
ment in Allapattah. Is that's possible I speak in Spanish, please.
Mayor Ferre: Of course.
(MR. URRA'S PRESENTATION IS MADE IN SPANISH AND MR. MARIANO CRUZ TRANSLATES
INTO ENGLISH AS HE GOES).
Mr. Urra: We went within our community to dozens of meetings pertaining to
Rapid Transit. We told the registered voters in our community that Allapattah
was going to have the Station of Allapattah and Santa Clara. We won there the six
precincts of our community for Rapid Transit. How this comes to happen now..
is a betrayal to the electors in Allapattah and to the City of Miami that they
are not going to have these Stations now. Besides, the Santa Clara station is
very important to the Allapattah and Wyndwood target area because it sits
right in the middle of the industrial areas of Allapattah and Wyndwood. We
think that the Mayor and Commissioners of the City of Miami should take a
drastic decision in this, otherwise they are going to lose the credibility
of the electors in our community. We expect to continue working with the City
of Miami but we expect also that the City of Miami recognize the labors of our
community. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you. As I understand it, there are no further
speakers and the D.D.A. has a statement to make.
Mr. Peter Andolina: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'm here on behalf of the
Downtown Development Authority. I'm Peter Andolina, the Director of Planning.
We'd like to urge you to take a formal position opposing the elimination of
the New Washington Heights Station from the Phase I Rapid Transit Program.
The Chamber of Commerce, Culmer Subcommittee and City Planning in CD and other
groups have been developing plans in redevelopment strategies for the Culmer
area. The New Washington Heights Station is an integral part of these plans
and is a key catalyst to turning the area around. Further, the Downtown
Development Authority has been working closely with the City Planning Depart-
ment and developing preliminary plans for Park West New Town in 'Town, a proposed
residential community which will be bounded by 5th St. on the South, 1-395 on
the North, Biscayne Boulevard on the East and the FEC Railroad on the West. We
are in the process of making preliminary planning grant proposals to the new
community's office of the Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.
We see the proposed New Town in Town as a unique opportunity to attract moderate
and upper income housing into the downtown area. Ready access to the Rapid
Transit Station at New Washington Heights is a catalyst which will enable the
site to develop and be marketed. Downtown Housing is a key to a successful,
secure and vibrant central business district. It makes downtown work 24 hours
a day. The transit station at New Washington Heights and the proposed People
Mover System Station to the Omni makes the development of Park West viable in
the near future. We therefore urge you to support our efforts through your
opposition to the elimination of the New Washington Heights Station. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre; Thank you very much. I'd like to reiterate to the members of the
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press that the Touche=Ross people who'll be going back to Toro►to are aVaiiai
able if anybody Wants to talk to theft on the Dade County Report in the COMA,
tittee of the Whole Room, which is right through that door.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I'd like to ask Mr. Dyer...
Mayot Ferre: All tight, I'm going to do that, Emilio, ...John, there have
been a lot of questions that have been posed and rather than interrupt and
get you back and forth in some kind of a debate system here, I let everybody
speak and now if you'd like to answer some of these questions this is the
time to do it and then we can move forward. We have to take a lunch break
in about 5 to 10 minutes so, Dr. Dyer.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Dr. Dyer, as a gentlemen said who said he was a mem-
ber of a seven member committee was here...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Pawley.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes. You said that in 1976 you had questioned them
in relation to some of the changes that you say that you need now. When you
came up with the proposal to the public you told us you had all the money,
you are going to tell me that you already knew that these changes were neces-
sary and you lied to the people or what?
Dr. Dyer: No, sir, what it was all about that Mr. Pawley was talking about
of course was the architectural and the aesthetic impact of putting the line
at surface. That was what it was all about, that had been discussed at length.
Nothing has been discussed about reducing stations, reducing the number of sta-
tions or their location. We, as I said before, are not prepared to recommend
cutting a station out, we think all the 20 stations ought to be built, and
that's going to be obviously a staff recommendation but what I was talking
about was the surface lines as opposed to the elevated lines and their im-
pact.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Well, I asked you the question because when he was
speaking you said that they were consulted and, you know, it wasn't clear in
my mind this aspect.
Dr. Dyer: Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Thank you very much.
Dr. Dyer: Did that clarify it?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Dr. Dyer: All right, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I would also like to ask somebody of the staff a
question, please.
Mayor Ferre: All right, go ahead, but we'd like to remind you...we are only
on item number two at this point, we have 3, 4 and 5 which includes Santa Clara
Station Group 5, the Brickell Government Center Group 4, and City presentation
on Station Design and Station Development, so please.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: All right, one more question, if I understand somebody
from the staff informed me that Mrs. Range has 34 Wendy's or something,
you know, I understand...I would like them to answer me a question. They told
me that they have offered Wendy's a place in the new structure or whatever, is
that something that is visible or is not?
Dr. Dyer: I'm certainly not aware of any way we can fit the Wendy's structure
into the Transit Station, I just don't see how that can occur. If anybody has
been offering that I'm certainly not aware of it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next question. Mr. Nesbit you have a question,
Mr, Nesbit: You know, they've only been there about 7 or 8 months so I
don't think we are too concerned about them even if u e would have blown the seventy
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jobs, _ .._._the remedial jobs, but my Main question, Mra Dyer, and I'd like
the truth for once from you, 1 think you are the most honest guy over there
1 Mould even give my honesty. Can you tell me if we have enough
tottey to complete this -and this is a natter of record,, and is it based oh
the 1978 and 1979 engineering and economic study?
Dr. Dyer: The answer is yes, we have enough money to complete its One of
the things Mr. Nesbit is concerned about...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Without deleting stations.
Dr. Dyer: That's without deleting stations, yes, what he is talking about
is the construction plan not the question of whether or not we have money
to complete it. The way the construction would go would gosfrom both ends
towards the center. The reason is, of course, the most complex structure
in terms of the design of the system is the Government Center Station and
the bridge areal structure that goes over the river. It takes much longer
to design those. You can't let any contracts until you've had your design
completed. The way we are proposing to construct it, of course, we will
let a single procurement contract to construct every guideway girder, 1500
guideway girders in one or two contracts after the concrete casting yards
they are going to build every girder at one time. So, obviously, we'll
build all the girders, we would build the system. Secondly, we have to
finish the bridge to make the system operate, and we are going to do it,
yes, we have enough money.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. Now, we have to move along, and I'il tell
you, how complicated are we going to get into items 3 and 4 , can we do that
rather quickly now?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, I believe we can.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you tell us what you are recommendation is,
don't make a big presentation.
Mr. Fosmoen: We are going to
going on. We do need some
Mayor Ferre: We are going to
we get a full Commission here
it in the next minute or two .
make one observation on the discussion that's
direction from the Commission.
give you some direction, I think, as soon as
and after you finish items 3 and 4 we can do
Mr. Fosmoen: Oh, okay, sir. Item 3 is a discussion of the Santa
Clara Station and it is the staff's recommendation and we can spend 15 minutes
justifying it that the Station be located where originally proposed on the
Northeast corner of 12th and 20th Street.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that's item 3, now let's go to item 4.
Mr. Fosmoen: Item 4 is Station Group 4 and we are seeking your concurrence
in transmitting that to the County Commission for a Station on Brickell.,in
the Brickell area between 8 and 10 and the FEC Railroad, the downtown station
in the Government Center -there is really only one location that that can go
in, and the New Washington Heights Station, there are two alternatives for
New Washington Heights, one ... where Jack?, one is located at...
Mr. Luft: One is located between 7 and 8 Street and the Railroad tracks,
the other one is on the diagonal alignment that would be between 8 and 10
streets and closer to 2nd avenue.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any drawings on that?
Mr. Fosmoen: We are recommending the one between 7 and 8 Street which is
supported by the community.
Mayor Ferre: And how does the county stand on that?
(INAUDIBLE STATEMENT MADE OUT OF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: And we don't have any differences then either at Brickel]., the
Government Center or on Washington Heights, is that correct?
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Mayor Ferre: I just
items 3 and 4 as far
that Hatter, oh Santa Clara, air, We are on agreement
the county on Santa Clara,,
want to make sure that we understand, s0 that concludes
as your recommendations are concerned,
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir,
Mayor Ferre: Now, if we can get a full Commission here, maybe, to move on
1, 2, 3 and 4. Where is Reboso?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, might I summarize the staff's recommendation on the
first area of discussion and that is our posture on .t. It is our position
that we do not defer any stations within the City thtt the county give consi-
deration to deffering, as they have suggested, the parking structures; that
we not build any at -grade stations along Dixie Highway or at -grade sections
on Dixie Highway; that we give consideration to deferring Dadeland South and
that finally, no deferrals be made that result in irrevocable kinds of deci-
sions so that if the additional $40 million is available things can be put
back into the System that were originally programmed in the System.
Mr. Plummer: You know, one of the ways that we have so many religions in
this world is because people interpret the Bible the way they want to inter-
pret it, do you know what I'm saying? People keep using the word 'deferred parking.'
That's not what I heard, it's a reduction in parking.
Mr. Fosmoen: Deferral of the structures, sir, it is not a deferment of parking.
You are quite right. Reduction in parking.
Mr. Plummer: What I'm saying is three years today, when all of these people
up here have been replaced -and I'm not suggesting, I'm saying it's possible -
that somebody else is going to sit back and try and analyze what the intent
of these people was, and they are going to see the word "defer parking", that's
not what I'm hearing from Dyer, it's to reduce at the present time or defer
the full capacity. So please, somebody delineate ani make this thing clear
because, the way lawsuits are filed...
Mr. Fosmoen: I stand corrected, a reduction in the number of spaces. 9,900
to 7,500.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, big difference..
Mayor Ferre: All right, I think we have the recommendation and very explicit
from the Administration and I think it's time for this Commission to take a
position.
Mrs. Gordon: I am going to agree with the position that has been delineated
by the Administration and I would so move that we support it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion of support from the Commission
as a policy statement and there is a second, is there further discussion.
If not, call the roll please. Is it sufficiently clear that we are backing
you in all the things that have been presented today on items 1, 2, 3 and 4.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: That's what the motion is. All right, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-444
A MOTION EXPRESSING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION SUPPORTING
THE RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATION CONCERNING
DEVELOPMENT OF THE RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM AS FOLLOWS; NOT DELETE
ANY STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY; THAT THE COUNTY GIVE CONSIDERATION
TO DEFERRING THE PARKING STRUCTURES; THAT THEY NOT BUILD ANY AT
GRADE SECTIONS ALONG DIXIE HIGHWAY; THAT THEY GIVE CONSIDERATION
TO DEFERRING THE DADELAND SOITH STATION ADD THAT NO COMPROMISE
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EE MADE TAT RESULT IN IRREVOCABLE KINDS OI` DECISIONS.
Upon being seconded by Comissioner Gibson, the talon Was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) T. R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Terre
NOES:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.*(VOTE REVERSED, SEE BELOW)
ABSENT: Commissioner Manolo Reboso*(ENTERED THE MEETING A FEW MINUTES LATER
AND REQUESTED THAT HIS VOTE BE SHOWN AS
ON ROLL CALL: VOTING "YES", WITH THE MOTION)
Mr. Plummer: Let me clarify my "no" vote, Mr. Mayor, I have only one pro-
blem with one portion, it has been taken in total. I do have a problem and
have always had a problem...
Mayor Ferre: I'll be happy to divide that into pieces if you want, I thought
you were unanimous.
Mr. Plummer: ...in 20 Street and 12 Avenue is being proposed, in my estimation,
in the wrong place. I personally feel that you can go up and put it in the
Produce Market and you reproduce or displace a few watermelons, cantaloupes,
and squash.
Mayor Ferre: If you want to separate it, I hope that you would, yes.
Mrs. Gordon would you...
Mrs. Gordon: I remove that one portion from the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Would you accept that?
(INAUDIBLE RESPONSE MADE OUT OF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: All right, do we need to call the roll again then?
Mr. Ongie: No.
Mayor Ferre: I guess just so because it's a new motion, no?
Mr. Plummer: If you are removing that, then show me voting affirmatively
on the first motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mrs. Gordon votes yes, Father Gibson votes yes and
I vote yes for the record, so it's unanimous. Now, Mrs. Gordon...
Mrs. Gordon: Now we are talking specifically to the location of the Santa
Clara Station.
Mr. Plummer: That's correct.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I'd have to say that I have some trouble with that location too
and I would like to see further exploration on some alternative solution.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, all the arguments that I've heard today...I guess
everybody has their own reasoning. You know, I stood the other day and watched
the fire truck try to get out of the new station which is across the street
and it was almost impossible. Now, what are we going to do when you put more
congestion right in that immediate area. You are going to stymie that'new fire
station to no end. I think, my personal opinion, it can go north, just a half
a block or a block north. My suggestion is that the staff develop an alter-
native to the Santa Clara other than at that intersection.
Mrs. Gordon: Do you want to move that, J.L.?
Mr, Plummer: Yes,
Mrs. Gordon; Move it that way,
Mayor Ferre; Before we move that, let the record reflect that. Commissioner
Reboso is now in the room and that he wants to vote with the previous motion
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that just passed 4 to 0, now it's 5 to O.
RESTATEMENT OF FINAL VOTE ON MOTION 78-444:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) T. R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor. Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: NONE,
ABSENT: NONE.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now, on the motion that Commissioner Plummer has
made, is it being seconded by Mrs. Gordon?
(INAUDIBLE RESPONSE)
Mayor Ferre: All right, now under discussion, do you want to say something?
Mr. Fosmoen: I think that Dr. Dyer and Mr. Luft do have a position to present
to the Commission`;
Mr. Plummer:
They have already presented it.
Mayor Ferre: Your question is can the station be moved a half a block
north and I'd like Dr. Dyer and the staff to answer that.
Mayor Ferre: I think it's a valid request and I recognize Dr. Dyer to dis-
cuss that.
Dr. Dyer: I've got to take you back several months because this has been pro-
bably one of the most intensively studied station sites in the whole System be-
cause it has been so controversial. In all honesty, there has been an extreme-
ly detailed evaluation examination by county staff, city staff, etc. of all the
possibilities. When it really comes down to it, there are really only two
viable sites. One on the west side of 12th Avenue, one on the east side of 12th
Avenue. And looking at both of those, I think the unanimous conclusion was the
west site is the better site for that station as it fits with the community and
as it fits with the long-term development opportunities in that area. It is in
our judgment in a very important site for a station, not only short term but
long term. It goes to the 50 year -development opportunities in that area, and
they aren't there now and they will never be there if that station is not built.
I think we can all conclude that. Now, moving it north we can't afford the
cost of acquisition of the land, that's what it comes down to. There is such
structure on the side, nobody can afford that. The cost of acquisition would be
two or three times what the cost of the station is. I don't think anybody has
that kind of budget to require that kind of site for a station. Secondly, it
will just go right back to what else do we try to defer in the System if we have
to purchase that kind of a very high cost site in terms of land acquisition be-
fore the station will be built.
Mayor Ferre: All right, anything else? Further discussion...
Rev. Gibson: May I ask this question. Dr. Dyer, maybe I'm wearing two hats,
so I want it for the record. You told Wendy when Wendy was going in that this
was a possibility. Wait a minute, forget that. I happen to know that the way
you invest your money is you make surveys and studies.
Mr. Plummer: Buyer beware.
Rev. Gibson: Doggone right, so all I'm saying is, you see, I want to make
sure this is in the record because I raised the question. I represented the City
there, and I raised it there, and you know the hell I raised, and everybody
thought I was a bad guy. Okay, I said I wanted a study made. Now, I want
to know Wendy must have asked somebody where we were going to put those sta-
tions. Did you all tell him?
Dr, Dyer: Well, I do not know the answer to that, I do know that the site
has been a station site since 1975.
Rev, Gibson:
here?
It has been since 1975, now wait a minute, are the Wendy people
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wreaths, now.
Dr. Dyer: No, but...
Nev. Cibsont You see?, Mr. Mayor, tolerate me a minute.
Dr. Dyer: The people who would issue the building permit would be the City
of Miami, not Dade County. so t can't answer your question.
Rev. Gibson: But see, sir, here is the thing. if you had a station planned
there since 1975, is that what you said?
Dr, Dyer: In that general area.
Rev. Gibson: All right, look, the point I make is if you had that station
planned, I'm sure that when Wendy's was making their plan Wendy must have
been told, isn't that right?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You didn't ask?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I think what Dr. Dyer is saying is that a general
area was identified with a large circle at an early date that somewhere in
there there might be a station. This specific property was not pinpointed.
The owner did not know, he was not contacted, Wendy's did not know, it was
not contacted, even in the Milestone Group 5 level after Wendy's was up,
their numbers they used for employment was not identified for discussion
even though they were up.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask one other question, let me ask both staff members.
I want you all to enlighten us, please.
Mr. Luft: Let me point out that Wendy's business, the people that own the
business, were here. They have agreed not to oppose this site on the stipula-
tion that this Department and the OTA, commit themselves to working closely
with them on a relocation in that neighborhood. This, we have done.
Mrs. Gordon: That's a commitment?
Rev. Gibson: Did they understand that? Beware\'of the Athenians bearing
Mrs. Gordon: Is the owner here?
Rev. Gibson: See what he said? See, because I wear both hats, and I raised
the devil when for the City.
Mrs. Gordon:
City.
It's in the public record now, it's part of the records of the
Rev. Gibson: You made the commitment that you will no longer oppose, that they
are going to help you get relocated and I think that that's a fair compromise.
Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Dyer, are you here? Do you agree to the statement that
Mr. Luft has made? (INAUDIBLE RESPONSE) Will you put that comment into the
record, please?
Dr. Dyer: I was not in the specific meetings but we are required under the
Federal Relocations Department to do just that and we would do it under any
circumstances, whether it'd be here....but, yes, the answer is yes.
Mrs. Gordon: But, specifically yes.
Dr. Dyer: Yes, we are obligated to do it. We, as the agent for the owner,
we have had no knowledge of these discussions, or have been a party to them.
One of the arguments was we thought in the immediate area it could not have
been satisfactorily
Mrs. Gordon: Well, they are going to help you relocate. 1 will remove my second
under the circumstances and the conversation, J.L., because 1 think with the
turn of events I'll move this as part of my former motion, as an addition
to the former motion,
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NOES:
ABSENT:
Mayor Perte: All tight, now we have a motion, seconded by rather Gibson...
wait, wait a minute, that's not the way to do it. Plummer had a motion,
Gordon seconded it, she now has removed her second, in fairness to Plummet
I've got to ask for a second to his motion one more time. Is there a second
to Mr. Plummer's motion? All right, hearing none it dies for lack of a sen
cond. Now, I recognize Mrs. Gordon's motion and rather Gibson seconds the
motion, is that correct?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Gordon: And the motion contains a condition that we have just heard
recited to us on a redevelopment for the business entity.
Rev. Gibson: They are going to help him get situated.
Mayor Terre: All right, at this time then, we will call for a vote.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-445
A MOTION APPROVING THE SITE FOR THE PROPOSED SANTA CLARA STATION
FOR RAPID TRANSIT CONDITIONAL UPON METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY'S
OFFICE OF TRANSPORTATION RENDERING ALL NECESSARY ASSISTANCE TO
RELOCATE WENDY'S RESTAURANT IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.
Upon being seconded by Comissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) T. R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
None.
5. SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL AND AMENDMENT #2 to the
existing Concession Agreement; discussion of the SCOREBOARD.
1
Mayor Ferre: We have left in the Agenda, as you know, the items E, which
is the beer, and F, and I assume that those cameras are waiting for whether
or not we are going to have beer in the Orange Bowl and I know a young lady
who has a bad arm who wants to talk to us about beer in the Orange Bowl, and
who else wants to talk about beer in the Orange Bowl? Anybody else?
Why don't you tell us, Mr. Manager, in quick terms...
Mr. Grassie: I wonder if I could do two things, Mr. Mayor and members of the
City Commission, first, I would like as a matter of personal privilege to
take a moment to introduce to you Mr. Humberto Cortina, who is in the audience,
who is being appointed today...
Mayor Ferre: Would you step up here so everyone and the Commission can meet
you?
Mr. Grassie: ...as an Assistant City Manager for the City of Miami. I'm
delighted that Mr. Cortina has agreed to join us. I think that when you
have a chance to read about his background and to meet him personally that
you will be delighted also. I know that he is going to be a tremendous asset
to us. His experience in foreign trade banking, international relations, is
going to be a great asset to our City.
Mrs. Gordon: I just made a comment to Mr, Cortina, he is not a woman but 1
can't object to him on any other grounds,
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Mrs. Gordon: I would say again for the record, Mr. Grassie, that ih spite
of the qualifications of this new Assistant Manager I am disappointed that
you do not come back to us with a woman candidate.
Mr. Grassie: That would have been a pleasure for me also, of course, I
Would have liked that. If I can, then, move to the second item that you
have asked aboutrthe question of beer in the Orange Bowl, I will try and
summarize it for you quickly.
The agreements that you have in front of you contain all the basic
provisions that we discussed with you in your last meeting that you seem to
be in accord with and we have incorporated the changes necessary to reflect
the comments you made. The basic objection and difficulty the City Com-
mission had with those agreements had to do with the proposed automatic
extension of the Consession Agreement. That has now been eliminated, the
length of the Concession Agreement is now the same as it has always been.
In other words, it would conclude in two years. Because the agreement calls
for the investment on the part of the concessionaire of a significant amount
of money, we have also put in a provision which says that if the current con-
cessionaire does not get to be the future concessionaire, under those cir-
cumstancesywe would reimburse him 75% of his investment because obviously,
the future concessionaire would be taking advantage of the money spent by the
present concessionaire so in fairnes we would compensate him for 75% of his
investment. Aside from that, the basic terms are the same as you have discussed
before. I have to tell you one basic thing about these agreements and that is
that they now reflect the comments the City Commission made but they do not
have the concurrence of the Dolphins, they do not have the agreement of the
Dolphins.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, let me on the record answer you and tell you my
position. I support what you are coming up with and I want to explain why.
The main objection that we had, at least that I had, was that Mr. Robbie and
the Dolphins would end up extending their concession for additional years which
would then give them a 10-year concession when they have an escape clause
of three years, number one, at any time. And, number two, when in effect that
would eliminate competitive bidding. Now, I happen to think that it is a
good deal and that not too many people are going to come up to compete with
you on that basis but there might be, and I think we have to provide for that
possibility. Now, I understand also that it is unfair for the Dolphins to have
to pay for all this and then all of a sudden we put it up for competitive bid-
ding in two years, they lose it and they are out all the money. So, I think
75% is a fair....
Mr. Plummer: $75,000.
Mr. Grassie: No, no, 75% of whatever investment they have made.
Mayor Ferre: ..whatever their investment is, we are going to come back and
reimburse them for seventy five....Now, obviously, J.L., whoever wins the con-
cession in the bid process is going to have to swallow that, because we are
not going to swallow that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but who is determining the figures, Mr. Mayor, when you
take -which I've asked for all along and received today- who is going to make
the determination of expenses. Now, if anybody for the love of God, can ex-
plain to me,...why in God's name do you have to have 20 walkie-talkies to
serve beer.
Mayor Ferre: Because that's the only way you can order the beer from the
stands...
Mr. Plummer: Are we having curb -side delivery?
Mayor Ferre: Of course you have curbside delivery, how else are you going to
serve beer in the stadium. You know these guys go around with these things,
with these cans in them....
Mr. Plummer: You've got to be kidding,
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely not, haven't you been to.,,? Any major stadium func-
tions that way today,
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Mt, pluttert With a walkie-talkie?
Mayor 'ere: With a communications system, they have to tell their,..
'Mr, Grassie: We have a representative of Restaurant Associates, which is
Managing the concession. I wonder if you would like to have theta comment
on how they would propose to do this.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we'll have their comment but while he is walking
up let me finish what my statement was. Joe Robbie and the Dolphins have
not accepted this and .the indications that I get -and this is pure third
hand information- is that they are not going to accept it.
Mr. Grassie: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Now, I want to tell you then'why I want to vote for it, because
I personally feel it is a good deal so that's consistent with my position.
Secondly, the objection that I had, has now been cured. Now, if we do this,
then Mr. Robbie and the Dolphins and our severe critics can't go out and say
that this is the City of Miami again being obstructive about something that
the people have expressed. We go out and put something up, let him turn it
down, that's his problem, but then the ball is in his court not in our court.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I want to react, I want to express my side. I don't
believe that he has any right, ANY!; the stadium belongs to the people, we ought
to control it, we ought to set the terms, we are not being unfair to Mr. Robbie;
no, no, no. The general pattern is we go out to the public and we catch that
hell and the other guy is coming in to call the shots. You know?, I ain't going f
to do that, I'm not about to do it. Man, I go out there and I catch that hell
out there and I'm going to call the shots in here and I say this: to put this
out and not bid, is that being fair? You talk about the Sunshine Law...
Mayor Ferre: We are not understanding each other. This procedure allows for
a bid when the concession is finished. See, Mr. Robbie by law,...there is no
way...
Mr. Plummer: This gives him an edge,...
Rev. Gibson: Darn right.
Mr. Plummer: ...a $75,000 edge.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, let me put it to you this way. It's real simple, if
you want beer in the Orange Bowl between now and the end of Mr. Robbie's con-
cession which is two more years, you've got to deal with him first...
Mr. Plummer: You are wrong:, Oh, first, yes, yes. But, we'll take of that today.
Mayor Ferre: I worded that very carefully. You've got to deal with him first.
All right. Now, after you've dealt with him first, then I think as I understand
the law or contract on this, we can then deal with somebody else.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: I want you to know that this is something that could happen.
I think, obviously, that kills beer for this session, for this next football
seasonpand which one more season before his contract runs out and we
put the whole thing for bid.
Mr. Plummer: Not impossible, but...
Mayor Ferre: Very improbable. So, 1f what you want is to get this thing done,
I think this is the only way. I think it's a practical thing, I think it's a
fair thing. I have not talked to anybody on this,on the record, except Joe
Grassie. And I'm just expressing my position, I have nothing else on my mind
but what I think is just a simple, practical way of approaching a very com-
plicated problem.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask a question. A man cannot have inherent in a contract
something that was never there. Counsel, we pay you doggone good money to tell
us this. Here we are, selling beer for the first time, never had it before,
and the man who is going to sell it is the man who wants to sell it,has the con-
trol, Is that what you are telling me?
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Mr, Alvatez: Pot your informatiotl, there is a legal opinion and the legal
opinion addresses the point,
Rev, Gibson: Okay, explain.
Mr, Alvarez: The opinion states, and I will paraphrase, that the Dolphins,,,
The City should put together a proposal and that proposal should be presented
to the Dolphins. If the Dolphins refuse the proposal, the City has no fur-
ther obligation to bargain with the Dolphins and can then proceed to bargain
or receive bids from somebody else.
Rev. Gibson: Okay, let me buy what you are telling me, but let me out this Com-
mission on guard. Plummer, you were here, Mr. Mayor, you were here, Rose
you were here, Reboso, you were here. He pussy -footed with us, two or three
years, remember?, we never got our money. Look man, I gee: tired of going
letting one guy do it to me every day. I may have to do it this time but
I tell you this...
Mayor Ferre: Father, that all may be true and I don't disagree about the
obstinance of Mr. Joe Robbie, but that really should not impact the decision.
As far as the City and our best intere3t is concerned...now, look, I'll finish
with this. If you don't like this proposal, then you modify it so that it is
acceptable to you but what I would like to recommend is that we not finish here
without making a proposal and then let the Dolphins turn it down if they will,
we'll give them fifteen days, that's reasonable to accept or reject, and then
we can go to something else.
Mr. Plummer: But you are reversing,...because let me tell you where I disagree
and only minutely with the City Attorney, I find nothing that says that we have
got to propose anything to them, they are the ones who wish to bid to us, let
them make a proposal to us and we will act upon it giving them the first right
of refusal. Now, were you strong when you said we must propose to them?
Mayor Ferre: Of course, that's simple law.
Mr. Plummer: No, it isn't.
Mr. Alvarez: Commissioner, let me clarify something. I was paraphrasing an
opinion which I personally had not the opportunity to get involved with, that
being the opinion of our office I was simply stating it. I think I'm not in
a position now to change it or...you could very well be right, but nevertheless
that is the...
Mr. Plummer: All right, Mr. Mayor, all I'm saying is this. Mr. Mayor, I
don't think we should be proposing to Restaurant Associates or any one any pro-
position, let them come to us, as the spider said- como into my web.
Mayor Ferre: Thy have.
Mr. Plummer: No, they have not.
Mayor Ferre: They have and we turned it down and let me remind you what the
vote was, 4 to 1.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, then based upon that, Mr. Mayor, they are out. Okay?
They are out. Now, as far as I'm concerned, it now goes to competitive bidding.
or, and let's don't preclude this City operating and getting the full percentage
of profit rather than sharing it with someone else. I said that two weeks ago,
that it is not boyond the capability of this City operating the concession.
Mayor Fern: Mr. Anderson, do you want to address the City?
Mr. Plummer; Now, wait a minute, I'm not finished.
Mayor Ferre; Oh, excuse me.
Mr, Plummer: Mr. Grassie, I found fault before and I find fault again. We
sent you to do a job of discussion of beer. Now, I find great problems where
I want the whole cake, Now, we find the scoreboard, now we find...you know,
the other things. Now, you justified your position on that, we have a dis-
agreement but, you justified it. How long as proposed in either last time or
this time is Mr, Robbie going to enjoy the benefits as an advertising agency?
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Mr. Pltratuettr How long is that on the prapasalZ
Mr, Grassier For the duration of his current lease.
Mr, Plummer: Which is eight years.
Mr. Gtassiet Which is eight mote years,
Mr, Plummer: Is there a three-year escape clause it that for the City?
Mr. Grassier Yes, there is. Now, you understand that,,,
Mt. Plummer: Without penalty.
Mr. Grassie: Oh, yes, of course.
Mr. Plummer: We can get out of that agreement, as proposed, with Mr. Robbie,
in less than eight years.
Mr. Grassie: We can get out of that agreement if he exercises his three-year
escape clause, there is an automatic three-year escape clause that gets us out
of the scoreboard agreement...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no, that's not fair, Mr. Grassie. Mr. Grassie, what's goose
...what is that, Mr. Mayor, that you talk about with your turtle suit and goose
and gander and sauce (INAUDIBLE RESPONSE). Yes, yes, cooperation is a two-way
street. Don't even profer to me of one, anything that is the demands of Grassie
...or Robbie, that are not likewise going to be immediate, automatically, the
demands of this City. Now, that's one vote. What I'm saying is he demanded
a three-year escape on that 10-year contract, okay? I demand any contract
with him the same consideration, that's all.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, what's the will of this Commission? Let's hear Mr. Anderson
and then let's move one way or the other.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, Mr. Mayor, for a point of order. It is my understanding
according to your terminology that Mr. Robbie's profer at the last meeting
was denied by this Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Four to one. That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: So then we have complied with the legal position that...
Mayor Ferre: I'm not a lawyer.
Mr. Plummer: ...he has had the first right of refusal. Is that correct, Mr.
Alvarez?
Mr. Alvarez: Technically, it was their proposal, not ours. What's before you
today is our proposal.
Mr. Plummer: We gave them their first right. They made their proposal and
rejected it.
Mayor Ferre: You are playing with legal
Mr. Plummer: I'm playing with City's money,and by God, I'm going to be pro-
tective.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, by the lack of City's money.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mayor Ferre; Oh, yes. Let me remind you what the mad hatter said in Alice in
Wonderland.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, tell me, Snow White.
Mayor Ferre; You see, somebody asked Alice would you like some,.,Aiice said -
"Would you like some more tea?" And the mad hatter said; "You mean, would you
like less tea," She said; "No, I mean, would you like more tea," He said,
"Well, how could you havemore tea since you've had none at all," You see?
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So, obviously, it has to be less, What you ate talking about is itegativa,
because what you ate doing my friend is giving away $250,000 of this City's
Money by not moving on something and I'm not telling you what that something
is but you ought to do something.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have never enjoyed the philosophy of -.do something
tight or wrong, do it. I don't enjoy that philosophy.
Now, Mr. Alvarez, I'll ask you again. In your opinion, did the City
comply with that which you stipulated in a legal opinion, at its last meeting,
by denying a 4 to 1 vote that proposal offered by Restaurant Associates?
Mr. Alvarez: No.
Mr. Plummer: No, and in what way did they not?
Mr. Alvarez: Because I am reading the opinion exactly as it is stated and it
is a City's proposal which must be put together and then first offered to the
Dolphins and then offered to the rest of the world.
Mr. Plummer: So, what you are saying is that today's agenda is what the City
is profering to them. If the action of this Commission today is denial, then
we have met the criteria as established in your legal opinion.
Mr. Alvarez: Yes, sir.
Mr. Grassie: Now, wait:, ...if we, the City Commission, turn down a proposal which has
been generated by your staff to conform to your opinions at the last Meeting, I
don't see that that can be construed as being their right of first refusal.
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(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Ctassie: Yes, that's correct. If you say to us that we can propose
this to them and if they refuse that's it.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Grassie: But you have not said yet that we should propose this to them.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, Plummer, Plummer, it's very simple, they have the right
of first refusal that means they have to refuse something, not we have to
refuse.
Mr. Plummer: I disagree with that Mr. Mayor, but even if that's the case...
Mayor Ferre: Well, but that's not even law, that's simple logic.
Mr. Plummer: And I know how I have got to go, go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: So that the way to do... if you want to advertise publicly
you have got to make a proposal which they turn down and then we have the
right to...
Rev. Gibson: Alright, I'll buy what you all... the procedure, but I want
to change... wait a minute Plummer. I want to change that if they are not
you know, they are not the successful bidder...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but wait a minute Father, whoa, whoa, this is not I
hope the action of this Commission. This Commission has the right to propose
whatever we want...
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: ...and brother you better believe it's going to go a lot further,
a lot further than what's herein contained.
Rev. Gibson: Well, J. L., I'll tell you what, so we could go through the
legal procedure as they tell us, let'us start changing what's here now
and make the proposal.
Mayor Ferre: Well, ok.
Rev. Gibson: Now, I'll go that route. I can't lose.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are going to do that in a second after we hear
Mr. Anderson.
Rev. Gibson: I can't lose.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Anderson?
Mr. Anderson: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I noticed by the recommendations
that you have in front of you proposed by your staff, it did leave out one
very important amendment that we had discussed at the last meeting and that
being an extension on the current Orange Bowl ;oncession Agreement. The Miami
Dolphins and the City Manager's Office had spelt the last three or four
months in negotiating what we feel is the best possible agreement for the
people of Miami. The best possible agreement )eing the maximum amount of
dollars that the City of Miami will receive ofE the agreements in front of
you. Now, in our agreement to extend the Concession Agreement and it's
not an extension of eight years, it would be el extension of three years,
there is a clause in there that release the City for the Concession Agreement
if Mr. Robbie, initiates the three year out in his contract and one other
thing that I would like to add is that there are two items concerning the
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open bidding of a Cpneession Agreement. Number 1, paragraph 12, in the
boiphins current stadium lease with the City of Miami which is part of
amendment fl2 in front of you states that the Miami Dolphins will have the
right to negotiate with the City and in legal terms that means in good faith
to extend that agreement, Secondly, two years ago or a year ago in the
Federal Court a Federal Judge declared that the city need not put out this
Concession Agreement to public bid.
Mr. Plummer: Agreed.
Mr. Anderson: Ok, from Mr. Robbiels standpoint and he is out of the County
at the current time, concerning the agreements in front of you and I don't
know any businessman in my mind that would put up $600,090 which is a total
cost to Mr. Robbie in this package and only have the benefits, if there are
any for two years. From the Miami Dolphins standpoint, for the Miami Dolphins
to put forward $600,090 to purchase the equipment needed to maximize the
profits for the City and for the people, then the Concession Agreement should
be extended for an additional six years, reminding the people that the total
amount of revenue that the City will receive and again let me stress that this
agreement is for dollars to the City of Miami and in negotiating this and
going over the best possible way to maximize profits we have come up with a
system that we feel will provide the City with the most amount of dollars.
And the fact is that we are the current Concessionaire in the Orange Bowl
and that because we provide the City not only $450,000 a year in stadium
rent, the parking revenue the City receives and the concession dollar, we
feel the total package is very, very, fair to the people of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, very much, Mr. Anderson.
Mr. Plummer: May I inquire?
Mayor Ferre; No, Mr. Plummer. I'll tell you what I'm going to let you do
though because it's 1:30 and we got to meet here in 20 minutes. We can
either do one of two things...
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: ... if you are ready to move and make the motion of one kind
or another to get off the dime, I'm going to recognize you, Father, Rose
or Manolo.
Mr. Plummer: If not?
Mayor Ferre: Now, if not let's take a break and come back in an half of
hour.
Rev. Gibson: Let's take a break then.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we will be back in an half of hour to further discuss
this because it's 1:35.
THE CITY COMMISSION was adjourned at 1:35
p.m. for lunch. At 2:15 p.m. the City Com-
mission reconvened and thereupon resumed
the meeting with the Regular Agenda.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: ... and then we will get on with the Regular Agenda with
our apologies for the delay. Yes, I'm going to recognize... and Steve
Clark is... oh, there he is. Steve?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: No, we are going to take the bids and then we are going to
recognize you.
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6. RECEIVE SEALED BIDS for Construction of "COCONUT GROVE
BUSINESS AREA HIGHW'A.Y IMPROVEMENT H-4408".
Mayor Ferre: Alright, it's 2:00 p.m., Father Gibson moves and Plummer
seconds the opening of the sealed bids on Item I11 of the 2:00 agenda,
call the roll.
*The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who toyed
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-446
A MOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, READ AND REFER
TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR TABULATION BIDS
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF "COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS
AREA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4408".
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Reboso.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, open the bids. How many do we have?
Mr. Ongie: Just one.
Mayor Ferre: So, there weren't any.
Mr. Plummer: One bid, huh?
Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Everybody is busy.
Mr. Plummer: How many people were invited to bid?
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Parkes?
Mr. Parkes: About 342, sir.
Mr. Plummer: 65 people were invited to bid?
Mr. Ongie: The bid is for Construction of the Coconut Grove Business Area
Highway Improvement H-4408 ..
Mr. Plummer: That's for the lighting?
Mr. Ongie: ... the bid received is from Marks Brothers Company not Incorporated.
The base bid is $966,036. Mr. Mayor, that's all the bids.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, what was the estimate that we had on that?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Parkes?
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minuta J. L.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: How much?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
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Mayor Petre: Oh, I see. Alright, anything else oh this Mt. Plummet?
Mr. Plummer: No, that's what I was asking
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
7, AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF CONDITIONAL BUILDING PERMIT TO PERMIT
CONSTRUCTION OF THE CARDIOLOGY LEARNING CENTER A;4D SIMULATION
LABORATORY AS PART OF THE NATIONAL CHILDRENS' CARDIAC HOSPITAL
OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI SCHOOL OF MEDICINE.
Mayor Ferre: Now, at this time we are going to recognize our former
colleague and our friend Steve Clark. Mayor Clark, it's always a pleasure
and an honor to have you with us.
Mr. Clark: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and distinguished members of this august Com-
mission. I have what you might call a problem. My brothers and I are in
construction. My name is Steve Clark, my address is 100 North W. 37th Avenue,
Miami, Florida. We were the successful low bidder on a project that I will
explain to you in just one moment, and we went to obtain the building permit
and found our at that time, we were told earlier, that the plans had been
dry -run and everything was all right. We were told at that time that the land
had not been platted. Now, this is a very particular building and I want you
to hear from Dr. Gordon who is the master of Harvey -he'll explain Harvey to
you -,...I think you know about that, Joe. And, time is of the essence and we've
had to wait for the complete planning process at this time, Dr. Gordon is going
to be out on the street because he is being tossed out of his place of business
at the present time. For him to explain it, Mr. Mayor, exactly what has happened
up to this time, I'd like to introduce at this time Dr. Mike Gordon.
Mayor Ferre: Dr. Gordon.
Dr. Gordon: Thank you, Commissioner, I appreciate the opportunity to explain
this problem to you. My position at the University of Miami School of Medicine
is to direct the training activities of medical students and post graduate phy-
sicians. We serve 160 of our medical students a year and about 500 post gra-
duate positions. In addition to that, we've done a very innovative job, I believe,
over the years, of developing a unique training device, a picture of which I have
here, which is analogous to a flight simulator; in fact, it is a patient simula-
tor wherein you press a button and this device will make any desease you can think
of.
Mr. Plummer: Dr. Gordon, can I save you some time?
Dr. Gordon: I'll get to the point.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I move that this waiver be put into effect. I'm told by
the Administration that it can be a Resolution authorizing the issuance of con-
ditional building permit to permit construction of the Cardiology Learning Center
and Simulation Laboratory, N.W. of the intersection...
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the motion?
Rev. Gibson: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson seconds is there further discussion? Does anybody
have any objections in Administration, does anybody want to address this matter?
Call the roll please:
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 78-447
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL BUILDING
PERNKT TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF THE CARDIOLOGY LEARNING CENTER
AND SIMULATION LABORATORY NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH-
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%EST 14TH TERRACE AND HIGHLAND ROAD, BEING A PORTION OF TRACT A
CARDIAC HOSPITAL SUB (75=46), ALSO KNOWN AS TRACT D TENTATIVE
PLAT NO. 935-A "BISCAYNE CIVIC CENTER PLAZA," AS PART OF THE NA=
TIONAL CHILDREN'S CARDIAC HOSPITAL OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI
SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, AS PER VARIANCES GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD RESOj
LUTION ZB 98-78, DATED MAY 1, 1978, SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENT OF
RECORDING THE APPROVED PLAT WITH THE CLERK.OF THE CIRCUIT COURT
PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted he!e and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the r..solution,tas passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
8. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, PLAQUES AND
SPECIAL ITEMS.
Mayor Ferre: At this time, we have some presentations and we are going to
make the first one...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I beg your indulgence to Mr. Camacho who has
to catch a plane.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Camacho, from Colombia, is here and he would like to address
the Commission. And since we all know that the City of Miami is a Sister City
to Bogota and our very able associate, J. L. Plummer, has over the years re-
presented the City with much distinction in our Sister City Bogota and in Cali
and I will recognize him to introduce our guest.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Camacho called me the other day. He is here today
representing not only Bogota and Colombia but that of the World Trade Fair which
we, the City, have been participating, and he would like on behalf of the World
Trade Fair to make a presentation and a request of you. He has also asked if
it can be made in Spanish and I have told him that both are possible.
Mayor Ferre: Of course, this is a bilingual com unity, "y aqui tambien hablamos
el castellano, de,manera que bienvenido, Sr. Cam,icho, y adelante."
MR. CAMACHO PROCEEDS TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION IN SPAN3SH.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Camacho. ("Muchas gracias, Sr. Camacho").
1, Presentation of a Resolution to Mr. Lee Evans, Assistant Director of the
Department of Tourism Promotion, in recognition of Recently being honored as
"Man of the Year" by the North Dade Chamber of Commerce and for his continuing
accomplishments, most notably in creating major sporting events, such as the
Champion Spark Plug Regatta.
2, Presentation of a Distinguished Visitors Scroll to Patricio Escobar Murna,
representative of Lan -Chile Airlines in Peru, in recognition of his significant
contribution in fostering hemispheric relations. Mr. Murna has been especially
active in st Ovulating the Miami/Lima Sister City alliance.
3. Presentation of a Key to the City of Miami to Mr. Jorge Camacho, Puba.c
relations Advisor for the International Trade Fair of Bogota. (EARLIER PRESENTATION).
4, presentation of retirement Plaques to Fire Department personnel:
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Fire Captain, Denzil Hamilton
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26 years, 10 months
25 years, 7 months
5. Presentation of a Resolution conveying the City of Miami's deepest sympathy
and condolences to the family of Jeanne Levy, who was the founder of the National
Parkinson Foundation. Accepting the Resolution w a s Dr. Emanuel Papper. Dean
of the University of Miami, School of Medicine.
6. Presentation of a Proclamation designatinating the 13th of July asDia Del
Canal 23. Also, presentation of a Commendation to Vivian Salazar Quevedo, Sta-
tion Manager of Channel 23, who is the first woman to occupy such a position, in
Dade County.
7. Presentation of Certificates of Appreciation to Mr. Jay Kassack, Retardation
Program Sueprvisor, Department of Health and Rehabilitation Services and Ms.
Stephanie Wetmore, Field Representation, Retardation Program Office. Mr. Kassack
and Ms. Wetmore have been of tremendous assistance to the City of Miami's programs
for the handicapped, not only in funding, but in technical guidance. Through
their efforts the lives of many individuals have been measurably improved.
8. Presentation of a Certificate of Appreciation to Commander Harold G. Spanlding,
Disabled American Veterans, District of Florida, for his substantial contribu-
tions toward the betterment of handicapped persons, disabled veterans and their
families.
9. Presentation of a Proclamation designating July 16 as Miami Swordfish Tourna-
ment Week. Mr. John Haines, Tournament Director and Mr. John Gerken, Secretary,
will accept the Proclamation.
10. Presentation of proclamation designating July 25 as Dia de Puerto Rico;
Victor Idelfonso, member of the Board of Directors of ODP accepted.
9. Continued discussion - SALE OF BEER IN ORANGE BOWL
and related matters.
Mayor Ferre: We are back to our morning agenda, and we left off with Mr. Anderson
and with Mr. Plummer wanting to make some comments and Mr. Plummer, I recognize you.
Mr. Plummer: No, Mr. Mayor, let Mr. Anderson continue.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I think Mr. Anderson has pretty basically said what he
had to say unless he wants to add to it. Do you want to add anything to it,
Mr. Anderson?
Mr. Anderson: I'd just like to add one thing, Mr. Plummer, if I could, please.
That you have the two agreements in front of you and you should have amendment
No.3 -and Mr. Grassie should probably be here since'he was involved in negotia-
tions- which is the extension of the Orange Bowl Agreement. It wasn't presented
to you, I believe, before Friday.
Mr. Plummer: The concession.
Mr. Anderson: Yes, the concession agreement. To only say one more time, for
Mr. Robbie, that he doesn't believe it is good business judgment that for him
to put up the $690,000 and only have a two-year agreement on it; that the ex-
tension of the agreement would be very good for the people of Miami and the
revenue that the City of Miami could derive from that.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Anderson.
Mr, Plummer; Mr. Anderson, a question to you, sir. I know you are repro -
seating Mr. Robbie here today in his capacity of leaseholder of the concession
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As it ptesently ettists it the Orange Bowl.
Mr, Anderson: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: Are you here today empowered by Mr. Robbie to speak in Wait. -
tent.
Mr. Anderson: No. Only if you approve
you, very much, Mr. Plummer, and we'll
the City as we can.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that would be more
in that vein, I'm glad to hear that we
Mr. Anderson: Good.
Mr. Plummer:
all three agreetents I can say., thank
do our best and make as much money for
than we've ever gotten before, sir, so
are on the right track.
So you are not empowered to speak for Mr. Robbie.
Mr. Anderson: I can only tell you what he told me when we discussed what the
City presented us..
Mr. Plummer: Then let me ask this question of you since he might have discussed
this issue with you. It has been said here today that this which the Manager
has termed the "commission's comments and their desires" then do I understand
correctly has berm tendered to Mr. Robbie?
Mr. Anderson: The two agreements that you have in front of you, Mr. Robbie
has seen and his statement was that he will not put up the $690,000 and only
have two years of an agreement for it to run. He feel, as was what we presented
you two or three weeks ago, that the extension of the Concession Agreement along
with these two things then he will, yes, put up the $690,000.
Mr. Plummer: Do I understand as a simple answer, yes sir, no, that this which
is proferred here today is not agreeable.
Mr. Anderson:
That is my understanding, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir, thank you.
Mr. Anderson: Any other questions?
Mayor Ferre: No, thank you very much, Mr. Anderson.
At this time and before we continue I want to recognize Representative Paul
Steinberg, who also happens to be here in the audience. He has a personal
appearance before us which is item No. 9. Paul, if you would forgive us I will
take out of order after we finish this item. We do this out of courtesy to our
Delegation. We always recognize our Legislators, I've recognized others who
were here. One of our ablest Representatives in Tallahassee, I'd like to
introduce Mr. Paul Steinberg.
All right, we now...
Mr. Plummer: The Mayor has made a comment and I'm sure that it is a projec-
tion and I'll accept it as such that the sale of beer if we do not pass that
which is proferred today it would amount to approximately $250,000 revenue to
this City, is that correct?
Mr. Grassie: That is correct, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Do I further understand that under the projection that was given
to us today that the cost and amortization for three years is deducted from the
gross and then the profit is split 50/50. Is that correct?
Mr. Grassie: That is correct.
Mr, Plummer: So that means then, that there is a profit of roughly $5,500,000
or a half -a -million dollars in beer, is that correct? Is that a natural assump-
tion?
Mr. Grassie: That is not correct. We are dealing now with round figures and
with the assumption that the agreement will run for a full season. In other
words, that you are not talking about less than all of the games that are played.
JUL 121978
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Grassie:
yield to the
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Grassie:
Mr. Plummer:
That's what I'm speaking of.
But on that assumption, the City's 30.5% of cofioeissidns should
City approximately a quarter of a ffiillieh dollars.
And likewise to the concessionaire, approximately the same.
That is not correct.
A11 right, sir, what would he realize?
Mr. Grassie: The concessionaire would realize more in the neighborhood of
$40,000 to $50,000. You have to realize that they have to pay for the product,
the beer, and they also have to pay the operating costs. I'm sorry, the
$40,000-$50,000 figure represents what the Dolphin's share of the concessions
would be. There is also compensation for Restaurant Associates.
Mr. Plummer: And how much would that be?
Mr. Grassie: That would be another $40,000. Each one of them would get approxi-
mately $40,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir, I'll accept that. It's $80,000 is their share of
the profits.
Mr. Grassie: Round figures, yes.
Mr. Plummer: And the City is $250.
Mr. Grassie: That is correct.
Mr.
Plummer: Just very strangely did that happen to come out to
putting in everything that has been said that is needed, is that
That's $320,000 is what is proposed here as the cost.
the cost of
correct?
Mr. Grassie: The figures work out approximately to be equal, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, strange.
Mr. Grassie: No.
Mr. Plummer: But true. Now, Mr. Grassie, the City runs an awful lot of con-
cessions, correct sir?
Mr. Grassie: The City runs very few concessions, almost all of our are out on
private leases, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: I'll agree to that, my terminology is wrong and I stand corrected.
We run quite a few types of operation.
Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Then, we have concessions. Would it stand to reason, Mr. Grassie,
that if we, the City, were the operator of the concession for beer that after
the first year that all expenses would be paid and the City would then derive
roughly $320,000 profit rather than $250,000?
Mr. Grassie: If we put up the front money?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Grassie: That is a reasonable assumption if we are able to operate with
the same overhead as with the concessionaire and that is conditioned by the
fact that at that stage, under those circumstances that you describe, you have
two concessionaires operating the same facil4y at the same time.
Mr. Plummer; Sure, and we already operate certain concessions within the
stadium, such as parking.
Mr.
Grassie: We -operate no concessions within the stadium,
Mr, Plummer; Excuse me, we operate units of service that could be put out for
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Mt. Grassie:
Mr Plummer:
Mr. Grassie:
tortiey, yes,
We ttanage the parking, that is correct.
Has that theory been discounted?
On the basis of the discussion that you had with the City At, -
it has been discounted. Understand that we are talking about...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, excepting the fact we give them the right of first
refusal and they refuse. Have you discounted the fact of the City operating
a concession and not splitting the profit with any one?
Mr. Grassie: If we get to the point where we are no longer talking with the
Dolphins, then I think that we would have to consider every alternative in-
cluding that one, but until that is a reality before us, of course, we cannot.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir, so in other words, what you are in fact saying
is that the City could operate just as quickly as the Dolphins of getting it in
for the first game, there is no reason to believe they can't.
Mr. Grassie: I do not believe that two concessionaires can operate at the same
time in the Orange Bowl for the same events as well as can one. No, I do not
believe that is feasible.
Mr. Plummer: But it is possible.
Mr. Grassie:
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
Commissioner, I guess anything is possible.
Sometimes, I wonder. Thank you, sir.
All right, here is where we are,...all right, Father.
Rev. Gibson: I'd like to ask a question. I don't see why we have to give
Mr. Robbie until 1986...is that what it is? 1986 to make his mind and then we
give him a three-year out clause, isn't that right? I'll tell you what I'd
like to see happen, I wouldn't be adverse to voting for what you are talking
about if you'd tell him give up that three-year 'out' clause.
Mr. Grassie: Well, that may be a proposal that the City Commission wants
to make.
Rev. Gibson: I'd want him to give up his three-year, in other words, if he
agrees to stick with us through 1968 and t'aint r. out.
Mr. Plummer: Not 68, Father, 86.
Rev. Gibson: I mean, 1986, if he'll stick with u:. through 1986. In other words,
the guy wouldn't be able to go around here talking, bad-mouthing us to Fort
Lauderdale and some of the other places...at that point in time. That's what I'm
talking about. I'll go for that. I'll go for the contract just as is what he
says, but he must give up the three years. But he can't leave me.
Mr. Plummer: Father, you know, the Manager has excluded in today's presentation
the thing that Mr. Robbie fought very hard in Federal Courts and lost, and that
is to go to competitive bidding on the concession as it exists. Mr. Robbie
championed a cause and lost and he has to live with that. He made his bed there,
but let me say that under no circumstances acceptable to me in reference to the
scoreboard. I think you are putting in a scoreboard second in class, at best.
I understand your justification, I don't agree with it, but here again, Mr.
Grassie, I'd be totally oppased until we know something about this resort tax
and the possible Orange Bowl posture completely changing and I think it is realis-
tic that if we redo the Orange Bowl, that is one thing, If we tear it down,
that's another, so I think :hat up until the time of the resort tax being taken
care of, it's out of question, and I understand that it was not your proferring
that the scoreboard go in t) the Orange Bowl, but Mr. Robbie's proferring.
Mr. Grassie: No, that's no_ true, Commissioner.
Mr, Plummer; We sent you t) negotiate beer now what you did Op your own, I
don't know.
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Mr. Grassie: Well, let's not be, l want to declare on that.
Mr. Plummer: Sure, please do.
Mr. Grassie: At the staff level, even since we've had the lease with the
three-year 'out' option, we have been trying to find a way to accomplish
your basic objective of having an improved scoreboard at the Orange Bowl
and still do it within the limit of three years. We finally found a way to
do that within that time limit and because of the tying between the con-
cessions that are in the Orange Bowl and what happens in advertising, those
two things naturally came together, there is a relationship between them. Now,
l think if the City Commission were to determine that it wanted to accept Com-
missioner Gibson's proposal, that there is no reason why we could not move ahead
with what you would call a 'first class board' rather than the reduced board
that we are now talking about, there is no reason why completely paid for out
of advertising we could not move forward with a full first class board.
Mr. Plummer: A board less than what this Commission agreed to two years ago
that was stopped by Mr. Robbie, let's lay the facts on top of the table.
Mr. Grassie: No, no, I'm sorry Commissioner, what I said was if the City Com-
mission...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, are my facts wrong?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, what I said was if the City Commission accepts, Father
Gibson's proposal or comment which means that there would be no three-year out,
assuming that we got agreement to that- if that becomes a fact, at that point
we could discard the small improvements that we are talking about now and go for
the full improvements of the board and they will be completely paid for by ad-
vertising, so that you could get everything in the scoreboard that you were
looking for a few years ago.
Mr. Plummer: What is the present posture of this Commission, Mr. Grassie, in
relation to the scoreboard? What did we pass, or was that prior to your coming here?
Mr. Grssie: That was in 1975, Commissioner it was prior to my coming here.
Mr. Plummer: And that was about a $2 million scoreboard.
Mr. Grassie: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: And we engaged and selected a company.
Mr. Grassie: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: And, tell me Mr. Grassie, why wasn't that carried through?
Mr. Grassie: Because you did not have the 10-year lease of the Orange Bowl
which would be required in order to guarantee to the advertisers that in fact
they could have that length of contract and amortize the board.
Mr. Plummer: Was there anothe problem, Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Grassie: You are probably asking me something that you know better than I,
Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm asking you before you discarded what I said as not being
true, so I'm asking you. Was there another problem? Why did that not go through?
Mr, Grassie: Aside from the fact that you did not have a 10-year lease?, yes,
I understand that the City and the Dolphins had a big argument on the question
of whether or not what was advertised was also going to be part of the concession
offering.
Mr. Plummer: And they refused to acquiesce to the City's position. Not the
Dolphins, the concessionaire.
Mac. Grassie; The concessionaire.
Mayor Ferro; Mr. Plummer,,..
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Mt. Plummer: I just Want it of the records
Mayor Ferre: 1 realize that, it's after 3 o'clock, you want to get out of here
at 5:30 P.M., we are still on the mornitig agenda I think we've talked this
thing over and over, we ate just repeating things. %4e've all pretty well made
up our minds as to what we want to do. I would recommend that it is time now
for us to do something. So I'm open now for any...Mr. Anderson, very briefly.
Mr. Anderson: I'd just like for the record, since Mr. Plummer emphasized the
fact to say something about the $2,0.00,OQO scoreboard in conjunction with
Mr. Grassie because of the length and time that it leads with the Dolphins
in the Orange Bowl is a reason why the scoreboard wasn't put in., But in terms
of profit to the City and that's really where we have. been negotiating over
the last few months. To maximize the most amount of dollars that can go to
the City of Miami through these agreements. The $2,000,000 scoreboard Mr. Plummer
provided the City with $11,000 of income.
Mr. Plummer: $18,000.
Mr. Anderson: And then after there were some objections to it, it was. changed
to $18,000, and that was a $2,000,000 scoreboard. The $358,000 scoreboard that
we are planning, that we have negotiated with the City Manager for provides the
City with $10 or $20,000 of income the first year and in the fourth year close
to $90,000 of income for the record.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Anderson, you haven't said anything new you know and this
is what's happening.
Mr. Plummer: But his figures are wrong Mr. Mayor and that's why I think when
you make such statements they have to be corrected that's all but I won't
honor the statements by correcting them.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Now, I think that we're still in peg 1 and we got to move
along one way or the other. So the last... What's the will of this Commission
at this point on Agenda Item 11 E with regards to the Orange Bowl and Beer?
Mr. Plummer: Alright, Mr. City Attorney, you tell me sir, you know what I want
to accomplish, you tell me sir, how I do it.
Mr. Alvarez: So that we all clearly understand what we're talking about
Commissioner, will you restate what is your objective?
Mr. Plummer: I am trying to accomplish what you state in a legal opinion that
1 have to give the present concessionaire the right of first refusal on beer
only, nothing to do with the scoreboard, sir, nor the extension of a concession
lease.
Mr. Alvarez: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: We're only speaking of beer.
Mr. Alvarez: The Commission should present or the Manager should present the
Commission's terms and conditions and proposals for the sale of beer to the
Dolphins. The Dolphins have the right of first refusal,upon their refusal
you might then submit to open bid or you might wish to entertain as you have
stated previously'the City's'undertaking venture by itself.
Mr. Plummer: And how long do the Dolphins have the right to refuse?
Mr, Alvarez: That is not addressed in the opinion. I will suggest a reasonable
time, Mr. Robbie being out-of-town, when will he be returning?
Mr, Plummer: Such as.
Mayor Ferre: I think one of the key points though is that whatever offer we
the City of Miami make to the Dolphins has to be a reasonable offer because
Mr. Plummer: Agreed,
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Mayor Petrel .: ii they reject it and then Fae go out and contract Oft a
different basis I think. we. aouid have a legal Problem so it hat tts be. a
reasonable offer.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I find it extremely difficult Mr. Mayor, that if we etiek
with Father Gibson's proposal since there isonly person that can release the
3-year clause in the 10.-►ears. of Mr. Rohhie, that is only Mr.. Robbie, I don't
thinkanybody has that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, but the point is I'm not too sure before a judge as we
found out in the past with Mr. Robbie, with_Dan Fault and others representing
him whether or not we're going to, you know, so it has'to be reasonable. I'm
not a judge and I'm not a lawyer and I don't know whether you can construed
that just because they're the ones that happen to have the. concession rights
and they're the only ones that can give it up whether that's. construed as
being reasonable, I don't know. That's a matter before a judge and I think
it's a very complicated matter and I don't think we can just snap judgement
on that one here. I think what we have to do is in my opinion proffer a
reasonable alternative. that we're willing to live with, whoever gets it, and
then if Mr. Robbie rejects it, that would be. the basis. for our going out on
bids.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, no court in the God's world will say to you, that if
we give this guy all that he has asked for and if we ask him to give up that
3-year outclause that's not being reasonable.
Mayor Ferre: That's fine Father, I'm not the judge.. I don't know what the
judge is going to rule. I can't ...
Rev. Gibson: Well, we're making some judgments man, you know, we ought to
make some judgments for the City now. You know, I get very, very uptight and
disturbed..
Mayor Ferre: We've done that, we've made judgments for the City...
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mayor Ferre: We voted last time.
Rev. Gibson: Well, in this instance, the man who's trying to get the
concession apparently got to get it all.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me make you a proffer Father.
Rev. Gibson: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Whatever we say here today if the present concessionaire isn't
the winner we're going to court.
Rev. Gibson: Right! Right!
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion, would you please s.o we can get on other items?
Mr. Plummer: I asked the City Attorney to make it in legal terms.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. City Attorney, would you please comply so we can move along?
Mr. Alvarez: Yes Mr. Mayor. It will be a direction by the City Commission to
the City Manager to present to the Dolphins a proposal upon the following terms
and conditions, whichever those terms and conditions, they are, as you determine
them that because you desire.
Mr. Anderson: May I say one thing Mr. Ferre?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Anderson: We've talked about an alternative proposal to the Dolphins, is
one going to he where you put up all the money that we have a chance to accept?
Mayor Ferre; Sure.
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scoreboard, acid that's what Mr. Robbie disagrees. with;
Mayor Ferre: 1 didn't understand that.
Mr. Anderson: Are you going to give the Miami bolphin§ a reasonable proposal
to the point where you're going to put up the money for the facilities rather
than the Dolphins putting it up?
Mayor Ferre: I don't know what this Commission is going to do, you know, I'r
open for a motion at this point. My position is very clear. I think the
offer that's been made is reasonable. I think the counter offer that the
Manager recommended is eminently reasonable I'm ready to vote for it. Now,
that's just one vote out of five. I don't know, Mrs. Gordon has expressed
her position, she's against beer period. So her position is clear. Father,
has expressed his opiniion. Plummer has expressed several opinions, and
Reboso has expressed no opinion. So make up your mind. Let's do something
please gentlemen.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, since you seem to be in favor and you are dead set on
it, why don't you make a motion and let's see what happens?
Mayor Ferre: 0f course, I'll be very happy too. Vice Mayor, you chair the
meeting. I would propose that the City of Miami have beer available for this
football season and that it accomplish that by offering the present concessionaire
the following proposals,that they put up the beer facilities with the approval
of the Manager and with a fixed budget not to be over that budget which the
City of Miami Commission must approve before finalizing the installation of
that facility, that the breakdown be as previously outlined by the Manager,
namely, that the City of Miami get from the top gross
Mr. Grassie: 30.5%
Mayor Ferre: ... 30.5%. And, otherwise is outlined in the Manager's proposal,
that if, that we definitely will go to a bid procedure when the concession
runs out, which is in the year 1979, 80?
Mr. Grassie: 1980.
Mayor Ferre: 1980.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, it's my understanding that what the Manager has
proposed is that the beer run out at the same time as the regular concession
Mayor Ferre: That's what I'm saying. (Repeat)
Mr. Grassie: Yes, 1980, two years from now.
Mayor Ferre: I'm making the motion now...
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mayor Ferre: ... that the beer concession be parallel to the other concession,
that it runs out when the other concession runs out in 1980, and that at that
time we put it out for bids. That as part of the bid procedure that whoever
is a successful bidder must assume the responsibility of paying the Dolphins
75% of the cost of the installation as recommended by the City Manager and
that they will have to assume that. If the Dolphins are the successful bidders
then obviously,then they will have to assume that expenditure as part of the
bid procedure. Now, lastly, that the Dolphins be given 15 days from today to
either accept or reject this proposal and that if they reject the proposal
that the Manager be authorized to immediately put this out for public bid to
be opened as soon as possible,hopefully in time to meet the deadline of the
first football game in the Orange Bowl this fall. And that is my motion.
Mr, Reboso: Mr. Mayor, it's one problem with the 15 days. The 15 days will
run up to the 28th and that will be the last City Cotnmisson meeting.
Mayor Ferre; Then make it the 27th.
Mr, Reboso; Let's make it the 27th so we can take,,,
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Mayor Ferret Then stake it the 27th that they have until the. 27th at ions
to accept or reject and that if they reject then we will put this out for
bid oti the 28th.
Mr. Reboso: July 27th. Ok, we have a motion on the floor, very clear,
Mr. Plummer: No, it's not very clear and I'm hoping for delineation and just
for the record Mr. Mayor, well, I'll wait and see if you'll get a second,
Mayor Ferre: There's no second. That's why I say it's a waste of time,
Mr. Reboso: You have a motion on the Floor. Nobody second the motion. The
motion died for a lack of a second.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, L make a motion at this time the Administration
immediately prepare the R'P's for sale of beer in the Orange Bowl Presentation
to this Commission and ap.)roval at the next meeting.
Mayor Ferre: It's illegal..
Mr. Plummer: No, it's not. I didn't say put it out. I said prepare.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, I don't mean to start belaboring and I don't want to
get in anyway into a situation which is going to be... you know, I don't want
to hurt anybody's feelings around here. But the fact is that under the law
we have a contract. The contract says, that the present concessionaire has
the right of refusal.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferrer The right of refusal means that he can refuse. That obviously
implies that we have to offer. Without an offer there cannot be a refusal.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: If you want me to dance you got to ask me, you haven't asked.
You've got to say what it is that you're willing to do and then give them the
right to refuse it. It has to be reasonable in all senses. Once they refuse
then you can put it out to bid. There is no way you can put it, prepare bids
for what? I mean, it's so illogical, I don't understand the...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Clerk, since the Mayor obviously does not understand
Plummer's type of English, will you read the motion back to him? Does the
Clerk understand Plummer's english?
Mayor Ferre: I doubt it very much. In fact, I've met very few people that
do.
Mr. Tingley: Yes sir, that the Administration immediately prepare...
Mr. Plummer: Prepare, that's the key word.
Mr. Tingley: Right.
Mayor Ferre: That's right, and the key question is'what for'? Prepare what?
For what purpose? We can't put it out for bids anyway, so what are you preparing
it for?
Mr. Plummer: I didn't put it out. I said prepare the bids.
Mayor Ferre: Would you tell me why you want to prepare it?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, because we're obviously not going to make a deal with
the present concessionaire.
Mayor Ferre: Nor can you put it out for bids, so why go through the exercise?
Mr. Plummer: Go ahead.
Mr, Tingley; Prepare the, I believe he said, the RSVP,
Mr, Plummer: I said UP.
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Mt, Plummet: 1 don't Veit them to call the back,
Mt, Tingley: Pot a sale of beer ift the Otange Bowl for the nelt Commission
meeting.
Mt. Plummet: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: That motion is pretty clear in my estimation. Im not telling
him to submit it to bids, I'tn asking hit to prepare the bids ot ask for
proposals, tnoreso.
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like that...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) '
Mayor Ferre:
useless.
Huh? You are just going around in circles, it's absolutely
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferret Alright, Mae have a motion on the floor.,.
Mr. Plummer: But, you see, Paul the Legislature never had the people to
deal with that we do.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: You said that, not I.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, do you want to get out of here by 5:30, we got
two hours left, please?
Mr. Plummer: I am leaving at 5:30.
Mayor Ferre: Well, then would you please... are you finished now with your
motion? Is there a second to that motion? Hearing none it dies for lack of
a second. I think that we have talked this one to death. Obviously, this
Commission wants to do nothing and I think that... I'm sorry to say that
it's a sorry day for me and I think it's a sad commentary on the City of
Miami and I think we really should do something, for goodness sakes just
to sit here and not knob• what to do is just beyond me. So,...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I couldn't agree more with you because
Mr. Reboso: Make a motion.
we.. •
Mr. Plummer: ... the Commission were the ones who went to the voters and
asked them to vote on boer and we are not voting on beer, we suddenly are
involved in a total package and I agree with you, that is a sad commentary
that we cannot speak to the subject which the voters spoke to. We did not
speak to anything other than beer, but yet when a package is presented to
'us we find all kinds of other money making profits involved in what we were
trying to accomplish in one area. The voters did not speak to expanding
the present concession. The voters did not speak to a scoreboard, but yet
there are those who in this community feel that they have to make an awful
lot more money and capitalize when the voters spoke on one subject. And
yes, I agree it is a sad commentary when this Commission and Administration
cannot follow the directive of the voters.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Father?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I think I would go along with the contract being
offered if I forget to escalate that three year out of clause. If I get
that 1 got that guy locked down here until 18...
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion please.
Rev. Gibson: What is that?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Rev. Gibson: 1986 and man he ain't going to be talking with nobody at that
time.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson?
Rev. Gibson: I make such a motion. I think that since I can't get,,, look,
I can't agree with all that other business and it's too complicated for me,
that's a very simple way.
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Mayor pette: rathet Gibson troves that the Managetis pt0150041 be accepted
With the addition that it is a requirement that Mt, Robbie naive the thtee
►ear escape clause.
Rev. Gibson: That's tight, that he is here...
Mr. Plummer: In the football contract.
Mayor Terre: In the football contract.
Rev. Gibson: ... in the football contract.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now is there second to that motion,
Mr. Reboso: I second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there further discussion, call the roll on the
motion.
The preceding motion was passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Reboso and Mayor Ferre,
NOES: Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer.
ABSENT: None.
Said motion was designated Motion No. 78-448. :•ee later confirming
Resolution No. 78-482 passed and adopted later in the meeting,
ON ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Gordon: My vote no, is predicated on the fact that I do not want
beer in the Orange Bowl.
Mr. Plummer: My vote is no, predicated on the fact that the voters only
spoke up to us in terms of beer and now other things are being brought in,
I vote no.
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of perhaps not being as reasonable as I would
have hoped, but in the interest of getting something on the table and off
of zero, I vote with the motion. Alright. Yes, Ma'am, I recognize you to
speak.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Ma'am, I don't think that... my position is as fixed as it
can possibly be.
Ms. Maloney: _
Mayor Ferre: You go ahead.
Ms. Maloney: I'll tell you just what's been said, when the people of the
City of Miami voted to put beer in the Orange Bowl none of this other was
in it. They were told that they would get between $200 and $400,000 a year
profit from what the Orange Bowl is. Now, there is nothing like that said
in here as far as all these here other things. Now, I came here this morning
and you recognized me, you said a young lady is here to speak on this. I
wish to tell you that you are a very fine politician, I am not a young lady;
I'm a taxpayer of the City of Miami and I refuse to allow any of my tax
money to go to Mr. Robbie to settle his mess. Now, Mr. Robbie, all at once
in the last few days has become a great santa claus for the City of Miami.
He gave a thousand dollars to keep gambling out, he has said now that the
first game of the year he will give the money that comes in from that
to save the Alamo , then he also had some... you know, Mayor, I went away
to camp again ttis year, I was to camp last year, I had a hundred and thirty
five small chil.iren. I'm tired, I'm wore out, but I came last year and I
fought all year and I have been made fun of, but I still tell you that what
you are doing today is wrong and you know it. Mr. Plummer has said so,
when I came home from camp I had all of the newspaper saved that I might
read them, I read somethings that maybe you missed that Mr. Robbie said,
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Mr, Robbie said that if the City of Miami is going to tax the poor taxpayers
for the Orange Bowl then I myself will gave the money because I have a lot
of credit, Mr, Robbie is a great man, he is feathering Mr, ftobbie's hest
and don't you think that the City of Miami is going to get the money that
he has got in this thing that I picked up here. Now, I pick it up
I was in here today. Now, Mayor, I don't know what as a widow, as a woman
who owns her house, who's taxes are high enough, what I'm going to do, but
if there is any possibility that there is a lawyer in the City of Miami
that will help me file a taxpayers suit against the City of Miami for going
into this deal with Robbie, I'm going to try to do it. Now, you just go ahead
and do what you want to do.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you don't have to worry because I'm pretty sure that
Mr. Robbie is not going to go into that deal.
Mrs. Maloney: not scaring me I'm sure because as it said in the
paper last night he brought another new home someplace and now he is out of
the County. Mr. Robbie is to make Mr. Robbie wealthy, he doesn't care anything
about the City of Miami. For years he fussed with you people that he didn't
want to pay any money to half the games in the Orange Bowl, he threaten you
every time you turned around. Now, all at once he is the great santa claus,
I'm sick and tired, I'm sick and tired of what I hear from this City Commission
if they are going to go along with this man Robbie. Now, as I said I don't
know what the City... the people did vote for beer in the Orange Bowl, I'm
not talking about that I'm talking about these other things... Now, I missed
my bus and I'm on my way home and I'll be back.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we .aill get somebody to take you there so don't... just
hold on for a moment and we will get you somebody to take you home, Alright,
anybody else that wants to make any statements at this point?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Alright, you hold on now, we are going to get you home,
10. Personal Appearance by Representative Paul Steinberg
concerning five member appointed Public Service Commission.
Mayor Ferre: We have now taken up Item E, Mr. Manager, I think we can
wait on Item #F for later on.
Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir, we will put that one off.
Mayor Ferre: And that puts us then I think with Mr. Paul Steinberg. Paul?
Mr. Steinberg: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Council, based on your time
I don't expect to take more than two minutes or three minutes so you will
be going on with your meeting. As you know, the Legislature during the
special-- it's where you left your coat, but you will need it going to the
hospital, huh?-- As you know during the special session of the Legislature
by a three vote majority in the Senate and a half of a dozen vote majority
in the House the Florida Legislature took away the people's right to vote
on whether or not they want to elect their Public Service Commissioner.
Tt-e Matter had come up in the regular session of the Legislature, had died
in the Senate and pass the Florida House in a 60 to 59 vote because most
people felt, at least most of the Senators and to one vote difference in
the House that you should not take away the people's right to elect a
statewide elected official without asking the voting public. The voting
public had been asked to make that decision by the Constitutional Revision
Commission that recommended making the Public Service Commission appointive,
that recommended doing away with the entire cabinet of the State of Florida
waking that appointive, that the only one you would elect statewide would
be the Governor and he would appoint the Attorney General, . the
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Insiitahce Commissioner, every statewide officer, the Coth issionet of liflsurance,
the Commissioner of Education and the PSC and the people had a tight to Make
that decision in November and I felt that was the people's tight. If they
want to give up their tight to vote for elected officials then they should
do it. The same thing a Legislature should not pass a law that says people
Can't elect City Councilmans or City Commissioners which are also non-
constitutional officers and we could do that, we can abolish the City Charters.
Well, we could do a lot of things legislatively and I just felt it was
wrong for us to do this. During the special session a deal was made as you
read it in the paper with $15,000,000 worth of tax credit, giving up taxes
that people pay basically in North Florida, three Senators changed their
votes, half of a dozen representatives and this bill passed, so that in
November regardless of what the people do on this issue in the Constitution,
regardless of whether they vote for or against it, starting January 1st you
will have a Public Service Commission appointed for a group of nominees
submitted to the Governor by a Committee. Now, the Committee is picked by
the speaker of the House Don Tucker and the President of the Senate, Lou
Bradley. They picked three people each, they picked three more, this total
of nine make the recommendations to the Governor. There is no requirement
of who these people should be, even serving on the Nominating Commission or
basically who could be appointed and the Governor must select from this
group nominated to him if he can't even find the best people in the State
and these people who will be appointed will se ve for the next four years.
It's my feeling, a feeling of half the Senator rom Dade County who voted
no, a minority of the House Members from Dade County who voted no, that the
people should have had the right to vote on thi; issue themselves, so what
we have been doing is we have been asking the ( .ties to at least endorse a
petition drive to put the question on the ball( in November, an alternate
question of whether you want the five member e- Icted Public Service Commission
with a public council to represent the public. I appeared before the City of
North Miami Beach, I appeared before the City ( North Miami and at Surfside
so far. All three City Government have recommei led the people that at least
endorsed the petition drive so far as saying tl it the people have a right
to decide whether or not they want to elect the public officials. I think
this is a basic right, it was taken away from tie people of the State of
Florida because of a deal that was made in a si tcial session by a very, very,
slight majority of both Houses. I cannot reca any other major piece of
Legislation that passed the House and Senate tl .s or probably in the six
-ears I have served by a one or two vote major y, particulary when the
"uestion was already on the ballot in November. People could have spoken to
it and I believe the only reason it was passed hrough the special session
is some polls were taken and it appears that 7( of the people in the State
of Florida didn't want to give up their right t 1 vote and I'll tell you
right now representing this City Mr. Mayor, thr six years in the Legislature
many people complained to me about our Public •rvice Commission, they asked
me to make it a five member board which I have )een supporting and to setup
certain other guidelines for it and I have ser'A on a special Committee
that investigated a Public Service Commission( , but noone ever asked me
in six that I have been in the Legislature oth( • than probably the Miami
Herald and some utility lobbyist to take away t e people's right to elect
these people, they did, noone ever did in six ars.
Mayor Ferre: Paul, let me ask you this so to : e if I understand this.
It's not on the Ballot and it wasn't on the ba' of is a Constitutional
Revision.
Mr. Steinberg: Ct is on the ballot, but you sc
Revision recomme►ded this, a five member Public
by the Governor subject to confirmation by the
ballot and regarlless of what the Legislature
that. Now, let': say the people vote yes, that
five member appointed. If the people vote no,
regardless of wl•(t the people did since we chat
will be appoint& 1 and for us to change it we w(
law, call a spe.Lal election and go through al]
, what happened is Constitutional
Service Commission appointed
enate and that is on the
d the people will vote on
is fine you will have a
n that starting January 1st
ed the Statute already it
.1d have to pass another
the problems. Yes, sir?
Mayor Ferre: You mean to tell me that the people of the State of Florida
have to vote to retain the right to elect their Public Service Commission
that the Legislature would have the gall and tle Governor would have the
gall to circumvent the will of people and put that in anyway?
Mtn. Steinberg: The question Mr. Mayor: is that is not the way the question is
phrased on the ballot. The question on the ballot says 'do you want an
appointed five member•` Comission' if the people vote no on that and the
Governor has already asked theme to vote no and the people who sponsored this
bill have said don't vote, vote not on this because we don't need it in the
Constitution now it's already in the Statutes, so vote down this Constitution
Provision, let's try it in the Statute and if it doesn't get along then
we can always change it again to elective. So, the question what I want to
put on the ballot is side by side to this question which says you want an
appointive which basically is the identical wording and it says 'we want
a five member elected Public Service Commission elected by the people statewide
with a public council to represent the people. It is the identical wording
of Constitution Revision which made it appointive, I'm making it elective
that way the people will have a right to speak to this issue on the November
ballot. Otherwise, they have lost their right.
Mayor Ferre: Well, frankly I can't go against that.
Mr. Steinberg: The only one that has locally I have been telling you, is
the Miami Herald. And because of my stand which is saying the people have
a right to vote, they have called me a demagogue and I don't believe I'm
a demagogue.
Mayor Ferre: Well, Paul, welcome aboard.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's real gentle compared to what they call the Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Paul, why don't you give me those things to sign.
Mr. Steinberg: Yes, ok. Mr. Mayor, in three weeks we have collect from
what I hear statewide almost a hundred thousand signatures.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sure you will get more than that.
Mr. Steinberg: It took the Governor ten months to get his Sunshine Amendment
on the ballot. It took the Insurance Commissioner seven. We were given
after changing the law, after we started this)30 days to do this. Can you
imagine that and we are doing it with no funds,on our own. Most of printing
has been donated and we are out getting signatures.
Mayor Ferre: What's the will of this Commission?
Mr. Plummer: `Well, Mr. Mayor, I think this Commission has always taken a
posture that the people have the right to speak and I see...
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but we wouldn't be stopping the people from speaking
whether if we don't do anything. He is going to go ahead with the petition
drive regardless, so, what's our saying anything got any business to do with,
it has nothing to do with it, we are not putting anything on the ballot. He
is asking us to endorse what he is doing. Well, we wish him good luck, but
we don't have to endorse it.
Mr. Steinberg: But, I'm asking for your help. That's correct Mrs. Gordon.
Mr. Plummer: But if his petition is not successful then the voters will
not have the right to have an alternative.
Mrs. Gordon: This might not be anyway.
Mr, Plummer: Excuse me?
Mrs, Gordon: It might not be anyway.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we have to move along, so what's the will of this
Commission, I am perfectly willing.
Mr, Plummer; Yes, but, if it goes into Constitutional and it passes that
they must be elective. Well I'm trying to figure it out,
Mr, Steinberg; It would be elective after this, In other words if we get
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this on the ballot of Novembet ?th according to the proposed Constitutional
chattge January the new people that ate appointed will serve until a special
election is held and then the people will have their right to go back and
elect their Public Service Commmission.
Mayor Ferre: We have got to move along, so what's the will of this Cotntnission?
What's the will of this Commission at this point?
Mr. Plummer: Give me one of the cards and I'll look at
to study it, because I'm confused right now.
Mayor Ferret Paul, why don't you come back at the next
and we will discuss it at that time.
it and I will have
Commission Meeting
Mr. Steinberg: Mr. Mayor, if what Mary Singleton has been able to do to
us which is change it from an August 8th deadline to January 21st deadline
which is after we started collecting these signatures as by time your next
Commission Meeting takes place I will be out of court so to speak, unless we
prevail and we are considering filing a law suit to allow us to go to the
August 8th date that we were originally given.
Mayor Ferre: Let me have one of your cards Paul, so I can sign it for you.
I completely agree with what you are saying, I have no problem with it at
all. And you got my signature on it and I... Now, if the Commission wishes
to do something that's fine, so I'll ask one last time, does the Commission
wants to do anything at this time on Item 4#9, if not thank you, very much,
Mr. Steinberg for being here.
Mr. Steinberg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Here you have one more signed card.
11. PUBLIC HEARING - APPROVE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF OFF-STREET PARKING FOR FISCAL YEAR 78-79.
Mayor Ferre: At this time we have a public hearing in an approving
appropriations for the fiscal year commencing October 1st and ending
September 30th, by the Department of Off -Street Parking. Mr. LaBaw?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, since Mr. LaBaw is probably the only one here...
Is there anyone here on the Off -Street Parking besides him? Mr. Mayor, this
is going to be very controversial from my standpoint and I would... since
we only inconvienced one Mr. LaBaw, I think we ought to get the people,
most of them are out for whatever they are here for because... Mr, LaBaw,
did you send him the message that I...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: Alright. I've got some real serious problems Mr. Mayor, with
this budget as presented.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. LaBaw?
Mr. Plummer: You do what you want Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: No, I think it... you know, you are entitled to that, Mr.
LaBaw, I would recommend then that you meet with Commissioner Plummer and
go over the budget and so in order to save time for the Commission I think
it's important that you answer some questions that he has which are considered
very serious in nature and then perhaps you can come back and share with
us what your findings are if you feel that there is something that should
be discussed. Are there any other questions of Mr. LaBaw? This is a First
Reading , so in effect in the interest of saving time we could pass it the
First Reading and the Second Reading is the public hearing.
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Mr. Crumptoft: This should be the public hearing Y believe, Mt, IAynr.
No, I beg your pfttdon.
Mayor Ferret 'Well, we will extend the public hearing until the setand hearing...
Mr. Crumpton: Oh.
Mayor Ferre: .., in the interest of saving time and 1 am reserving my right
to reverse my vote if this should be a motion of approval after we get the
details and that's the proper procedural way to do this.
Mr. Plummer: That's agreeable with me, I have no...
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion then on First Reading for Item #8?
Mr. Plummer: I'].l make the motion that it be approved on First Reading
and at the Second Reading the public hearing take place subject to Mr. LaBaw
sitting down and speaking with me.
Mayor Ferre: Nov, it's extended to... the public hearing is now extend to
the next meeting. Is. there anybody else who want to speak at this public
hearing on this First Reading of this particular Ordinance? It not Commissioner
Plummer moves, Reboso seconds, further discussion, read the Ordinance.
Alright, call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENT.TLED-
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 1978 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER
30, 1979 BY THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING;
CONTA'NING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH
Was introdu(ed by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Vice -Mayor Reboso
and passed on it:; first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Att:orney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I for the record indicate to Mr. LaBaw just
a few question that he will prepare the information for.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, in the interest of time.
Mr. Plummer: I'm leaving Mr. Mayor, I'll take about one minute. Mr. LaBaw,
I will need sir, a copy of your contractual agreement on special services,
whatever that is for, I will want a copy of your pension ordinance whatever
that is, a copy of your group insurance and I want to know the number of
employees both administratively and operational and I would like a complete
breakdown on the garage it loses in excess of a hundred thousand dollars
a year, number 2.
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12. COMMUNITY EDUCATION ADVOCATES UPDATE ON THE A:TIVITY AND
PROGRESS IN THE 13 COMMUNITY SCHOOLS OPERATIN; IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are now on Item 4110 which is a personal appearance
by Community Education Advocates for the Dade County Schools program. Are
they present now? Are the...
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Ms. Black: Hello, I'm Bonnie Black, at 600 Brickell Avenue and today I'm
representing Community Education Advocates as a member and also as a volunteer
Executive Director. The Community Education Advocates is a private non-profit
for our status Organization made up of community citizens interested
in supporting and promoting community schools in Dade County. We were formed
in December of 1977 for these purposes and as a specific request of Commissioner
Rose Gordon at our March 21st meeting, we have come before you to present
an update on what the City of Miami and community schools have done together.
Now, I don't pretend to be an expert on the inter -workings of community
schools in Dade County, I'm going to leave that to Dr. Tassey and his extremely
capable staff to bring you up to date today. But what I am advocating is
to bring your attention to the sincere interest that the sincere interest
and desire of the community school public members of community education
thoroughly support your support of community schools and we want to encourage
you to continue that. What I would like to do right now is to bring Dr.
Tassey up here to tell you a little bit more about where all your dollars
has gone since 1961. Dr. Tassey?
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Bonnie.
Dr. Tassey: Thank you, I will try to help you out and read my statements.
Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, the City Manager, Grassie, thank you, very much
for inviting us to participate in this brief presentation regarding the
Dade County Community School Program especially the City of Miami joint
response of community schools. First of all I would like to ask you to
please accept the thanks of the Dade County System, the Dade County Community
School Program, and that of the many thousands of people of all ages who
have been served through the community schools you have strongly supported
since their very beginning in 1961. We are very proud of the progress the
program has made over the years. Something very important to our community
happened in 1961 when the first community school was established in Dade
County in the City of Miami. In fact the first community school was not
only the first community school in Dade County, but the first in the State
of Florida and the first in the entire Southeast. Since that time this
example of partnership between the City of Miami and the school system has
been emulated by many other Cities in the Greater Miami community and several
hundred Cities Ind Counties in the State of Florida, in every state in the
Southeast and in every state in the United States. The viable partnership
which you and the School Board help to create with our community has provided
lasting benefits for thousands upon thousands of people of all ages throughout
the pass 17 years in the City of Miami. Because of the tremendous interest
of the general community the City of Miami and the School Board in serving
people certain .)asic community education concepts have been more firmly
established. lie importance to urban areasyseek and find ways to be more
responsive to it's citizenry through genuine community involvement has been
nurtured. The 'oncept that all people serving groups need to work closely
together in sincere partnership to develop a community has been advanced,
The delivery of services, one that our community has had an opportunity to
improve and har assisted in helping many established greater pride in their
City and School Systems as well as provided opportunities for those participating
to overcome sote of the loneliness and alienation which continues to plague
major urban areas in America. Certainly, noone could dispute the fact
that together I,, have had an opportunity to more fully maximize the use of
publicly owned facilities through the development of community schools as
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centers of coMttnity activity and service► ltt these tOmMunity school areas
people have had a more viable opportunity to work together to establish a
better way to deal with att to attempt to resolve community problems especially
those impacting on young children, Truly much progress can be noted and it
is certain that much more remains to be done if we are to continue with our
positive efforts to make this the best community in the United States in which
to live. Your involvement and strong support for the community school prograM
on behalf of the people of the City of Miami has played a truly vital and
important role in the progress that has been made in serving people of all
ages. Please again, accept my most sincere thanks for this support and the
excellent cooperation which has been extended by the City of Miami. At this
time I would like to introduce Dr. Henry W. Daniels, who will take a couple
of minutes to provide you with some more specific information about the
present jointly sponsored community school programs offered in your City.
Dr. Daniels?
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Doctor.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Dr. Daniels: To Mayor Ferre, Commissioner Rose Gordon, father Gibson,
J. L. Plummer and Manolo Reboso, the privilege for me to come before you
again and share some facts concerning the community schocl programs. Fact
number 1, in 1961 Ada Merritt Junior High was designated as a community
school by the School Board of Dade County under the sponsorship of the City
of Miami. Ada Merritt then became the first community school in the State
of Florida and in the Southeastern part of these United states. Today
17 years later 13 schools in the City of Miami have become community schools
under the cosponsorship of the City of Miami, they are A]lapattah Junior
High, Dunbar Elementary, Fairlawn Elementary, Kinloch Park Junior High?
Little River Elementary, Ada Merritt Junior, Miami Edison Senior High,
Miami Northwestern Senior High, Primary C Elementary, Riverside Elementary,
Shadowlawn Elementary, Silver Bluff Elementary and Brooker T. Washington
Junior High. Fact number 3, the facilities of these 13 community schools
represent more than a $14,000,000 investment of tax dollars, these facilities
open their doors before and after regular school hours to provide multi -service
programs for all age groups. Number 'a, the community schools in the City
of Miami served over 20,700 different people monthly. 31% of them are
adults, 63% are youth and children ani 6% are senior citizens. All of the
programs and services provided in community schools are determined by the
local school staff and the neighborho3d residence. Community schools in
Dade County are made possible through a partnership between the school system?
municipalities, community agencies and local residence. The partnership is
evidence in the multiple funding of community schools, The City of Miami
Community Schools receive funds from the City of Miami in the amount of
$94,430, for the State of Flordia, $78,000, for the School Board of Dade
County, $313,941 and from local community support, $117,114. 284 are
employed on a part-time basis in these 13 City of Miami Community Schools.
105 volunteers are providing 85 programs and activities In these 13 community
schools. These schools provide employment for 45 full-time employees through
federally funded projects. 31 additional part-time youths are employed
through a federal programs and are assigned to the City of Miami Community
Schools. 9 college students are financially assisted by working at the
City of Miami's Community Schools through Miami -Dade Community College
work study program and two of these schools serving the City of Miami were
involved in a special library project that we conducted this passed year.
They kept their libraries open afternoons and evenings f3 r children and their
parents throughout the 1977 and 78 school year. The community school program
also operates after care programs in the City of Miami Community Schools,
In this program the Dade County Community Schools provides special services
to the children of working parents it the City of Miami. The City of Miami
has worked closely with the community school program for a number of years
in providing these services and has essisted in the financial support of
the after school care project at G. V. Carver Junior, Little River Elementary
and Silver Bluff Elementary community schools. Last year the budget was
approximately $192,000. Funds provided by the City have Lnable the community
school program to better serve the special needs of children of working
parents who also contributed toward the cost of operating these projects,
We would like for you to know one other fact that in addition to these
three centers, the community school program has obtained other support fund
froth Metropolitan -lade County to operate additional after care progra*s in
the City of Miami and one cormunity school operates it's project as part of
it's community school program through fees. Seven community schools its the
City of Miami serve a total of 882 children in after care and at this tine
l would like to present Mr. Rolando Amadar, Community School Coordinator
at Ada Merritt Junior High. Rolando?
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Dr. Amadar?
Mr. Amadar: Mr. Mayor, Commissioner Gordon, gather Gibson...
13. DEFER CONSIDERATION ON THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCE #6945,
CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS; REQUEST MANAGER TO
NOTIFY INTERESTED PARTIES.
Mayor Ferre: Dr Amadar and I think this is going to take longer
than I thought and if you will forgive me for a moment. There are a lot
of people here that are here on Item 1i19 and Commissioner Reboso just told
me that he has not had a full time to read the stuff that's being presented
and he said he was going to make a motion to table, so in the interest of
not keeping everybody here waiting on Item 1119, I think I'm going to, if you
will forgive me for a moment, recognize him on Item 1119 to make a motion to
table. Is that correct.
Mr. Reboso: That's correct Mr. Mayor. I was out of town and came back late
last night and I took a look this morning to the package and I would like
table until the next City Commission Meeting.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, so there is a motion to table, further discussion...
there is no discussion on a motion to table.
Mrs. Gordon: I know but, alright then I will have to vote against the motion
if you don't let me say something.
Mayor Ferre: Well, Rose, you know, we are very informal around here, but...
Mrs. Gordon: Alright.
Mr. Plummer: I'm going to vote against it if you don't let Rose talk,
Rev. Gibson: Let her speak.
Mayor Ferre: Make your statement.
Mr. Reboso: Go ahead, Rose.
Mrs. Gordon: I know Manolo's point.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mrs. Gordon: Right on, is to have more time to study the material, but
I feel that I've read it, I know you haven't Manolo, but there is a need to
bring some other persons into the scene and who's names are mentioned in some
of this material, particularly the Justice Department's Representative. So
with that in mind if you will table it and ask for a special meeting and have
that person brought in, then I will go with the motion.
Mr. Reboso: Ok, I don't have any objections.
Rev. Gibson: I don't have any objections.
Mrs. Gordon: Alright, then it will be scheduled at a separate meeting,
Mr, Plummer: Well, Rose, let me just say this if I may and I wholeheartedly
concur, that's unusual, not only just Mr. Squire Padgett in particular, but
if possible Mr. Manager, I would want you to invite Mr, John Lloyd to be
present at the meeting if possible because he was one of the ones who were
here at the time this was done, I know he is traveling extensively, but at
least invite him. Ok?
Mr. Reboso: Should we set the date now or.,.
Mayor Ferre: This is the next week or the 28th either one, There is a motion
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Oft the table then, Are we ready to vote on it, Rose?
Mrs. Gordon: Yesy the date hasn't been set though, We have a ineetittg on
the 28th beginning at 5:000 if we can move this up the same day perhaps,
that's the 28th because the 27th we have a full day from early horning to
late at night.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, make the 28th,
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: At what 3:00 o'clock?
Mrs. Gordon: I guess it ought to be, maybe three hours would be alright.
Mayor Ferre: Is that alright with you Father?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: It's alright with you?
Mr. Grassie: Are we talking about the 28th , Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Grassie: I think you have set it 5:00 o'clock on the 28th because somebody
had a time conflict that they couldn't be there earlier.
Mayor Ferre: So we are meeting... we are talking about something else now,
we are talking about item 19.
Mr. Grassie: Yes, I understand sir, but if you are going...
Mrs. Gordon: We have the Marinas coming up at 5:00 o'clock and if we set
this one...
Mayor Ferre: And therefore it gives us from 3 or 5, that's 2 hours.
you want to make it at 2?
Mr. Grassie: What I'm saying is that a member of the City Commission had
a problem in meeting before 5:00 when you discussed this the last time.
Mrs. Gordon: It was me, I don't know who it is.
Mr. Grassie: No, fine, maybe that's the result.
Rev. Gibson: Wait a minute, wait a minute, let me make...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, you know...
Mayor Ferre: Hey, wait a minute, Father wants...
Mr. Plummer: Surely. Let him be checking.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'would hope through to you to the Administration
who are not listening that they would see fit to a public hearing notifying
by mail all parties who are interested. In other words I'm also speaking
not of just Mr. Squire Padgett and Mr. John Lloyd, but I think we ought
to send a special letter of announcement to the Civil Service Board, to
the Affirmative Action Board, to all people that this proposal will touch
and I know you can't cover everybody or that would be cast of thousands,
but I do feel those people who are directly involved.
Mayor Ferre; Alright, with that as part of the motion that is a motion to
table now until the 28th at 3:00 o'clock, did we agree?
Mr, Plummer: Fine.
Mr, Reboso: Thit's fine,
Mayor Ferre; Alright,
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Gotdott: to you think two bouts is enough?
tyor Tette: Mgke it 2:00 o'clock.
tire. Cordon: 2:00 o'clock, ok.
Mayor t'erte: 2:00 o'clock, call the toll.
The following motion vas introduced by Vice=Mayor Reboso, Who moved
its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-449
A MOTION TO DEFER CONSIDERATION OF REPEAL OF
ORDINANCE NO. 6945, CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND
REGULATIONS AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NOTIFY APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS OP THE UNITED STATES
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, FORMER CITY ATTORNEY JOHN S,
LLOYD, MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, THE
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BOARD AND ALL OTHER INTERESTED
INDIVIDUALS THAT THIS MATTER WILL BE CONSIDERED
ON FIRST READING AT A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD
AT 2:00 O'CLOCK P.M., FRIDAY, JULY 28, 1978.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
14. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE REGULATING PLACEMENT OF BUS
BENCHES; DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO RE -ADVERTISE FOR BIDS AND
TO INCLUDE C-1 AND C-2 DISTRICTS.
Mayor Ferre: While we are doing these things, I think that we also have on
Second Reading Item 1111 and I've got some questions that I really need to
get into and I haven't had time to do that either, so would someone move
to table that one until the next one?
Rev. Gibson: 1i1?
Mayor Ferre: 11, the bus benches.
Rev. Gibson: Yes, I move to table...
Mayor Ferre: Alright, in other words it comes up at the next regular meeting
so there is a motion to table 11.
Rev. Gibson: The next regular meeting gives you enough time? Mr. Mayor,
why don't you...
Mayor Ferre: Well, then make a motion to defer this. Well,,,.
Rev. Gibson: Until the meeting after the holiday.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Rev. Gibson: Because man we are going to be w.,amp with,.,
Mayor Ferre: Alright,
Rev. Gibson: Is that it?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, then there has to be a motion, Father Gibson moves,
Reboso seconds, further discussion, call the roll,
Mrs. Gordon; Question on timing. Is there any time element concerning the
differ.,. between First and Second Reading? Mr, Attorney?
Mayor Terre;
Is that legal? Do you have a problem on that legally?
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Mr. Brassie Weil, you remember that we had aoi►eone go to court and ire had
a 00 day order within which period of time the city was ordered by the court
to go to bids. NOW, we have extended that and we have gotten parties to
agree.
Mr. Plummer: But, Joe, let me just try to play lawyer for a minute. It is
my understanding that we have complied with the law or the court order and
We have gone to bids. They are out and we will be accepting them tomorrow.
Mayor Ferre: How can we go to bids for goodness sake, if we haven't even
passed this law?
Mr. Plummer: They had to do it Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: You can't go on and bid?
Mr. Fosmoen: We went under the old ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, let me... alright, go ahead... I think we have complied
with the court order.
Mayor Ferre: Dick, do you want this deferred until the 28th or is September
alright?
Mr. Fosmoen: I want the Law Department to answer Mr. Plummer's question
and that is are we in compliance? Because the Manager is under court order
to issue those bids.
Mr. Plummer: The bids are gone out and they are due tomorrow. Didn't we
comply with the court order by going out the bids?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: But I understand you are also going to change the bids. You
are now going to include bus shelters which you did not include in this bid,
As I have told you privately, I am going to insist that C-1 and C-2 be included
in those bids.
Mr. Fosmoen: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: Now, if you can do that without rebidding?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, we can always add, but we couldn't subtract, but we could
add.
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: My question to you is, is there any problem with putting this
thing off one more time?
Mrs. Gordon: And not just that, but to the time elements that Father Gibson
has asked for, is there any problem in the deferral to that period of time?
Rev. Gibson: There is a problem?
Mrs. Gordon: There is a question?
Mr, Grassie: Well, let us explain what the situation is and then you could
decide what can be done. We are receiving bids tomorrow, they cannot be
accepted by the City unless we act on the ordinance. Now, if we don't
act on the ordinance we simply don't accept the bids, so that's possible,
but we are under a court order...
Mr. Reboso: Are the bids sealed?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, I':o sure that the Clerk has the bids sealed, I don't
know what.,,
Mr, Plummer: Can they not be impounded until the ordinance is passed?
Mr, Grassie; Yes, you
understand the bids normally are good for a certain
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ietiod of title.
Mt. Plui er: Right.
Mr. Grassie: We are under the court order...
Rev. Gibson: May I ask? Since I... you know, if you could talk with the
people who have bidded, are they any where near by? Is their lawyer here?
Are you their lawyer?
Mr. Anderson: Yes, Your Honor,
Rev. Gibson: Would you have any objections waiting until...
Mr. Anderson: Well, I'm the attorney for Bus Bnches Company, Bus Benches
Company is not the one that sued the City. We :ire presently under a month
to month agreement with the City and Rent -A -Bench Company is the one that
sued the City.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask you this. The people who sued is it possible before
we... that you could call them and say do you have any problems with... I
just think you ought to give the people ample time to do what they are going
to do because we are going to write an ordinance any way.
Mr. Grassie: Well, could we do this Father?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir?
Mr. Grassie: Could we call them and if they have no problems let's put it
on the September agenda.
Rev. Gibson:
Mr. Grassie:
Mr. Plummer:
Beautiful.
If they do have a...
Is this the man? Well, here he is here.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Grassie: Oh, this is the man that has the suit? Ok, well...
Mr. Plummer: Do you have any objections since you brought the suit, if we
defer this and rewrite this ordinance?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, sir, I do.
Mr. Grassie: Well, can we then leave that if we can come to an agreement
with this party we will put it on September.
Rev. Gibson: Right and if we can't then we will take it at the next
Mr. Grassie: We will take it in the next session.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Plummer:
UNIDENTIFIED
Mr. Plummer:
UNIDENTIFIED
Mr. rlummer:
UNIDENTIFIED
Mr, Plummer:
UNIDENTIFIED
Mr, Plummer:
Alright, that's fine. Alright...
Do you understand what I'm trying to do?
SPEAKER: Right, you are trying to put C-3 and C-4 in.
No, I'm trying to include C-1 and C-2 in the ordinance,
SPEAKER: Ok.
And you are against that?
SPEAKER: No, I would like to see it.
I think you would.
SPEAKER: Ok, yes, definitely,
But by your saying no, we are not going to be able to do it,
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Ok, but what you are asking is to postpone the bidding
fot tomorrow at the same tithe.
Mayor Ferre: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, we are going to receive the bids.
Mayor Perre: How can you receive the bids if We haven't passed it?
Mrs. Gordon: How can you receive them?
Mt. Plummer: Well, what I want to do Mr. Mayor,...
Mayor Ferre: You can pound the bids.
Mr. Plummer: I think it's perfectly right that any commercial zone should
have the advertisements, I see nothing wrong with it. I find the same thing
that they do about the residential no advertisement in residential, I go
along with that, but I see nothing wrong with advertising in C-1 and C-2.
Mrs. Gordon: Can I ask Mr. Fosmoen a question?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, Ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: Have you any objections to the C-1, C-2, Mr. Plummer is talking
about?
Mr. Fosmoen: Initially, I did Mrs. Gordon, but when we look at a map of bus
routes and the coordination of routes with zoning districts if we don't include
C-1 and C-2, we may as well forget bus benches, because the bus routes..,
Mrs. Gordon: Alright, then why do you have to postpone it at all?
Mayor Ferre: Because I want...
Mr. Fosmoen: I'm telling the Commission that I don't have any problems with
C-1 and C-2.
Mayor Ferre: You don't, but I do and I want to look at it. And as a courtesy
to me, all I've asked for actually is for it to be postponed until July 27th.
Mrs. Gordon: Alright, ok. Ok, then let's defer it to July 27th then.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I'll go with it, I just think you ought to give the
people ample time, let's go for September, it isn't going to hurt you, you
will get a better piece of advice.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I ain't got no problems with that.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problems, but what I would like to do...
Mayor Ferre: Alright, well whatever it is do it.
Mr. Plummer: ... let's try to accomplish something in this deferment. Mr.
Fosmoen, to you sir. During this interim period I think that you have heard
the expression of not only the Commission, but yourself to include C-1 and
C-2. I would hope that all of the people who wish to bid be called in.
Those people would then explain to you and with you the problems of the
industry. If there are none, fine. If there are problems that's where they
ought to be worked out and then come to us with an ordinance that is amended.
Mayor Ferre: Right.
Rev. Gibson: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion that this item be...
Mrs. Gordon: Did I ever get an answer from you Mr. Alvarez, regarding the
time between a first and second reading. Is there an element of time whereby
we are bounded to act within that period?
Mr. Alvarez: The order, if I recall correctly gave us a deadline. We have
presently before the Judge made a motion for clarification of the order. In
essence we have bought some time and I don't think there will be any real
problems,
Mrs. Gordon: Well, is there a problem?
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Mr. Aivatez We have gone out soliciting the bids, it's Mist a matter of,.
eventually the ordinance nlust be passed before t'te bids can bat.,
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OPP THE PUBLIC RBCORb)
Mrs. Gordon: No, that wasn't the point. Betwec'i first and setotid reading
is there a time element by which we are governed that we eat act on the second
reading? Can we delay it for the period of time that we have to delay this ore
or can't we not? and you know.
Mr. Plummer: Six Months, isn't it?
Mrs. Gordon: 1 don't know that's why I was asking him, he is the lawyer.
Mr. Alvarez: I'm trying to think.
Mrs. Gordon: Alright, you ruled there is not. Ok, then we can go ahead with
deferring.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Rev. Gibson: Sir? We want to make sure you come. We want to make sure that
you understand and that you are happy and we are happy.
Mr. Andersen: Ok.
Rev. Gibson: We want to wait until September. We want to give you ample time
and we want to give them ample time to work out the phrasing of the law for
us.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Alright.
Rev. Gibson: And then give you ample time to meet with them and whatever your
problems are as an industry, that you all talk it over together so that when
you come back in September we don't have the hassle. Ok?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Andersen: Mr. Gibson, I do think you are awared of the size of the
discussion that would take place because there are a lot of people involved.
Now, we have attempted to do business in the City of Miami and the City of
Miami has picked up our benches and removed them. We have attempted to go
into the City of Miami to do business, but...
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to have to cut it, I'm sorry, but this is not fair
to the other people that have been waiting. I thought this was going to be
a very quick item. Obviously, it's a long debated item, we are not going to
be able to take it up. So why don't you take your seat and we will take up
Item 11 later on. I apologize to you Bonnie and Doctorand please...
Mr. Reboso: Draw up a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I can't make the motion because everybody wants to
talk on it. Now, we can't do that.
Mr. Grassie: One last piece of information on this. If we..,
Mayor Ferre: No, no, please you wait and we will come back to Item 11. This
item is now... we are not taking... I thought it would be a quick thing Joe,
but it's a long debated thing and we just not going to do that any more. I
apologize.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER; Thank you, very much.
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15, COMMUNITY EDUCATION ADVOCATES UPDATE ON THE ACTIVITY AND
PROGRESS IN THE 13 CO"I1UNITY SCHOOLS OPERATING IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI - Continuation.
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Mr, Amadar: Mr. Mayor, as a .:'_oorlinatol- when we are right at the grass roots
working with the people directly, witb our clients, carrying over the Mandate
of the School Board and thandate of this Commission. I want to thank
very deeply the City of Nia,11 t7.mmis:21.on and the City of Miami Administration
of the support they havo piven to us ail the tine. As a member and a very good
specific example, one day in which we were in a kind of quandary that made it
very difficult to continue a parti!n-gar 701A1F,c2 of activitios and I remembered
that the Adminisration cal'!ed mo thy cold me that they couldn't go along
with us, but sitr'e things -:im' r.e booro you, not elly everyone in
this Commission vot,A ravor, it. also the Administration reverted itself
and came enthml.iscically in out -.avo7:. I want ,t.ist to know chat the people
of Miami which w,• srve t±r,:)nii* your 13 cortmuoitY schools. are being served
in ci very enthastic ;•• 1.n-,,-)1,7t in this, ::hat every penney that
YOU put in comnanity scho 171.u1Liiik:d 1)y the great netwo-l.k of volunteers
we have and heeaLse pt!n,en it really comes Into contact with us becomes
a volunteer. T cnc. thi; own bnn hoop saved because we have
community invoment o_rd sort,_ .;evetful friends that probably,
Commissioner Plnci- kne-, the Let-71 commul;v ,•:hich we are serving
in several of Niami. they have
been able to 1,1P: imes the chracter of the
neighhorhoo an lAea of what
community educt:; one you aro supporting and for which I
say thank you, to 11 which 1 was completely
astonished 7,e as community education
coordinator, all the scren,:tc chlt at. trange problems to the
school and 1 weni to a Yiery n ci)operator or in and told him what happen
that every person., every stlytur person, ewry nut tbt ha,Je a problem comes
to a communit7 And trA.(: 717 .:ometinp 4. will. never forget
and I want to to vo otel,1 me well, Riando, uhat happens because
this is a plac,I. hope an,1 yuu vc 'reated 13 places of hope in Miami and
for that I want co thank you, co you my Mayor Ferro, to you Commissioner Gordon,
to you Father (,js.nn, to y:.:n1 G:Immissloner Rehoso, to you Commissioner Plummer,
alumnus of my school and to you Mr. Grassie for your continuous support. And
now Bonnie wil! kind of windup all we have to say to the Commission tonight
and again, than: you, for creating places of hope.
(BACKGROM COM ENT OF THE. PV:31,1C -1.T.00111))
Mayor Ferre:
Ms. Black: Let me just thak. Dr. ss,?y. Dr. Amadnr, Dr, Deniels and I would
also like to pci nt out as cur founding Chairman is also here with
us today cver i ew other section, You know, community schools are making
a difference c'.! City 0C aud certainly are improving the quality
of life in Dade County c:is is the reason community education advocates
is kind ot takig up this cane. 3n wo want to show that a relationship between
the schools and municipalitic can work when people want to make it work and
by your substail efforts ever .the pass 17 years this has truly happened.
The community education ar-7vocates therefore are determined with really new
strength and vil,,or to go on and to apply greater awareness and disability of
the community sthools throughout :.)ade rS.ounty tv hAdIng more meetings, sending
out news letter ard Ic.)1nz !'ho. o0w,type of public nwaroness campaigns. They
are going to pcInt to w1Clt7 Miami has deue with pride to say well,
they've done it and ;Toll cal. do it io o. I'd really like to also thank you,
very much.
Mayor Ferre: Aieq-,hr, thani you, ,A.?ry muc.11.
Mrs. Gordon: Ad we pay the same, compliments back to you and thank you,
all for the wol you are tloint,. and also ft's a vory good economic utilizations
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of profiting to utiiite it on a continuing basis, so sae thank you, for all the
aspects.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, again gentlemen and Bonnie, it sure is nice
to see you.
16. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE REGULATING PLACEMENT OF BUS
BENCHES; DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO RE -ADVERTISE FOR BIDS AND
TO INCLUDE C-1 AND C-2 DISTRICTS.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are now back to item 11. And Mr. Grassie, I interrupted
you before, I had to as you understand...
Mr. Grassie: Certainly, I concur that you should have. Mr. Mayor, I just
wanted to make sure that the City Commission understood that if we are going
to go until September and if you feel quite sure at this point that you want
to include C-1 and C-2, what we would do is rebid on the assumption that you
are going to change the ordinance for C-1 and C-2 because that changes the
rules and everybody should have a chance to bid under the new rule.
Rev. Gibson: Where is that gentlemen, mister come up here. You heard what Or
he said?
Mr. Andersen: Yes.
Rev. Gibson: Are you alright with that? Now, remember once you tell us you
are alright, you can't take us hack to court.
Mr. Andersen: What we would like to do is to put it on the next meeting,
Council Meeting and on an emergency meeting.
Mayor Ferre: I can't do that.
Rev. Gibson: No, no, what he is saying... let Mr. Grassie tell you again.
He is saying that these other classifications of eoning will go in the ordinance
and they will notify you that you will have a right to bid on those different
classes. Do you understand?
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Rev. Gibson: You will have a better chance that's what we are trying to tell
you. Now, we can't force you nor influence you, it is up to you, you've got
to do it on your own. Do you understand?
Mr. Andersen: Ok.
Rev. Gibson: It's in your best interest.
Mr. Andersen: Right. Well, I go along with Mr. Plummer's suggestion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, then I think the way to do this if I may, is that we
have to start over again. Now, if you withdraw the motion and then you make
a new motion saying that this whole matter be readvertised Mr Grassie, let
the motion be then that this item.be readvertised with the inclusion of,..
Mr. Grassie: C-1 and C-2...
Mayor Ferre: ,.. C-I and C-2.
Mr. Grassie:
as permitted zones.
Mr. Plummer; May I, may I please? You know, I hate to be a stickler on
semantics, but may I ask you to please word it the way that 1 feel that it
should be and that is that advertising be allowed in all commercial zoned
properties and not in residential zoned properties,
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Mrs, Gordon: You need a clarification of that J, L4 because you have a
classification which is a combination of both whet you are talking about an
R-,
Mr. Riummert I'M not speaking of R-C,
Mrs, Gordon: Ok, therefore,,, Ok? Fosmoen?
Mr. Postmen: I do have one problem Commissioner with that and that is C-3
which is the downtown district.,,
Mrs. Gordon: Yes,
Mr. Fosmoent ... and we are spending a lot of money trying to keep advertising
out and trying to"'
Mayor Ferre: He is right J. L.
Mr. Fosmoen: ... and I do have a... I could not recommend C-3 be included.
Mrs. Gordon: Right,
Mr. Fosmoen: I don't have a problem with C-1 and C-2.
Rev. Gibson: He is right.
Mr. Plummer: Is the present bidding with C-3?
Rev. Gibson: No.
Mr. Fosmoen: No, sir it is not. It would take an addition of C-1 or all
commercial zones except C-3 if you wish.
Rev. Gibson: Do that Plummer, that ought to make it simple.
*Mr. Plummer: Ok, I got no problems.
Rev. Gibson: Alright, that's the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: There is a second by .Mrs. Gordon.
Mrs. Gordon: No, Fosmoen, I want a clarification from you that you are not
including R-C which also means residential -commercial,
Mr. Fosmoen: No.
Mr. Plummer: That's part residential.
Mr. Fosmoen: That's part of residential.
Mr. Plummer: No, Ma'am.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Reboso seconded it, further discussion, call the roll,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its
adoption.
MOTION NO, 78-450
A MOTION TO DEFER CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING SECTIONS 54-26, 54-37, 54-30 AND 54-41
OF THE CITY CODE REGULATING PLACEMENT OF BUS
BENCHES AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RE-
ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOF PLACEMENT OF BUS BENCHES
AND/OR BUS SHELTERS, SUCH REBIDDING TO INCLUDE
C-1 AND C-2 ZONING DI:TRICTS,
Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Reboso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr, Plummer, Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Reboso and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
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rll , rluiwlueL . Aow, tnat s witn tale instructions to all l L .. Lal bidders
to get together with the Department and sit down with the Department and
talk about the ordinance, whether they have input or not they have the
opportunity to present their problems to the Department.
Mt, Andersen: Could you include the industrial zones, the waterfront industrials
Mr, Plummer: That's commercial.
Mt, Andersen: Yes, you are including all the industrials.
Mr. Plummer: You consider that, sure.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion, call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, wait a minute, woh. Waterfront? No,
Mr. Andersen: Waterfront industrial.
Mr. Plummer: Waterfront industrial? Yes. Waterfront public use? No.
Mayor Ferre: But waterfront is not commercial, Plummer. You know,...
Mr. Plummer: There is waterfront.
Mayor Ferre: Commercial?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: There is waterfront commercial that is...
Mr. Plummer: Dodge Island.
Mayor Ferre: Huh?
Mr. Plummer: Dodge Island.
Mayor Ferre: But that's an industrial usage. You are talking about governmental
usage, that's not commercial, I mean, no. Come on, call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: I did, sir.
Mayor Ferre: You did, ok.
17. AMEND SECTION 39-24 OF THE CODE GOVERNING ORANGE BOWL
STADIUM PARKING CHARGES - FIRST READING.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on item /I2 which is an Ordinance on First Reading
Amending Section 39-24 of the City Code governing Orange Bowl Stadium Parking
charges.
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferro; Plummer moves, Gibson seconds, further discussion, read the
Ordinance,
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 39-24 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, GOVERN-
ING ORANGE BOWL STADIUM PARKING CHARGES; MORE
PARTICULARLY BY REPEALING SECTION 39-24 (a) IN ITS
ENTIRETLY; PROVIDING A NEW SECTION 39-24 (a) SETTING
FORTH A FORMULA FOR DETERMINING THE COST OF SEASON
RESERVED PARKING PASSES FOR PASSENGER CARS AND
RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF PRE. -
SCHEDULED GAMES IN A PARTICULAR YEAR BY THE
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI AND BY THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL
LEAGUE FRANCHISE TEAM, RESPECTIVELY; CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the'City Commission
and to the Public.
18. REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE PROBLEMS EXPERIENCED
BY PERSONS IN WHEELCHAIRS VIEWING THE GAMES AT THE ORANGE
BOWL STADIUM.
Mayor Ferre: Take up 13.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, this young lady has been waiting to say a few words...
Mayor Ferre: Of course, I didn't know that.
Mrs. Gordon: ... and she would like to speak. Her name is Bobbie
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: Just take it loose from there and give it to her.
Mrs. Gordon: Take it loose honey, it comes out, the top comes out. That's
right.
(.iACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Bobbie . Well, ok, what I got is on the wheelchair section on the
Orange Bowl. We the spectators in the wheelchair section can't see half of
the Dolpin's games because of the fact Reporters, Cameramen and Photographers
are blocking our view. I had a meeting with Mr. Rick Olson, ticket director,
for the Dolphins and Mr. Dick Roach, 1 think he was here earlier, with Parks
and Recreation in March. I spoked to Mr. Olson again in April and he informed
me that Mr. Robbie, owner of the Dolphins is not going to do anything about
this situation. Mr. Roach, told me that his office.,. (inaudible) I would
appreciate your support and cooperation in this effort.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Jennings, you heard the young lady's statement, would you
respond to it please?
Mr. Plummer; Mrs. Gordon, might 1 suggest before Mr, Jennings speaks that
you know, one of these days this Commission is going to get ourselves in
by directly asking the department head to respond. 1 and would hate to see
Mt, Jennings off' anyone else put into an awkward position of going through
the Manager.
Mayor Perre: Ate your points well -taken Mr. Grassie, is that alright?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, :night want to discuss it with him before aft answer
that's why I'tn saying that.
Mrs, Gordon: I was just going to ask hit a question. The question I
vas going to ask him is...
Bobbie
Mayor Ferre? I got some stuff here to...
Mayor Ferre: Would you get that please, Mr. Clerk?
Mr. Ongie: Alright.
Bobbie
... to show what I have done for our campaign so far.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you.
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, is response to the question, what Mr. Jennings would
like to do is to meet with the young lady and to discuss with her in more
specifics what her problem is and then respond to her and also give you a
copy in writing so that you know, what the situation is.
Mrs. Gordon: My question was going to be, I'll address it to you Mr. Grassie
then, for you to determine if there is another location in the Orange Bowl
that could... without redoing the whole building, that we could place certain
people who are in wheelchairs? That's the point and that's what she would
like to know.
Mr. Grassie: Well, let's have the staff take a look at that and we will give
you a writing response as well as respond to her.
Mrs. Gordon: Alright.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you.
19. REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF
IMPLEMENTING A "CONSENT AGENDA" TO EXPEDITE CITY COMMISSION
MEETINGS.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I take one minute please? I will ask the rest
of the Commission. Rose?
Mayor Ferre: Well, you are going to have to stay beyond 5:30, now Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, sir, if I have to I will, but I'm trying to save us
some time. Mr. City Attorney and Mr. Manager, one of the things when you
send me traveling, I try to keep my ears open. Members of the Commission,
I was informed by the Mayor of Fort Lauderdale of a way of expediting their
meetings which I would like to have this Commission instruct the Mayor to
instruct the Manager at the next meeting, it is called a "Consent Agenda".
Ok? Fort Lauderdale found themselves saving two to three hours a meeting
with a "Consent Agenda". Basically, this is the way it works. The Manager
in preparing agendas makes two, a Regular Agenda and one called "Consent".
At the being of the meeting the Mayor ask if anyone wish to speak on any
items on the Consent Agenda, Commission or public, if none the First Reading.
At the end of the day the question is asked again, anyone who wants to object
can have it brought out of Consent, but I think it's worth trying in front
of this Commission. Now, I give that to you Mr. Manager.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, would you look into that and report back to us?
Mr, Grassie: We certainly will. Mr. Mayor.
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20. AMEND SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8716, THE ANNUAL CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE - COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS
AREA DECORATIVE PEDESTRIAN -SCALE STREET LIGHTING.
Mayor Ferre: Now, take up item #13, the Ordinance fo? First Reading.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Yes, you want to get out of here and you talk forever,
already made your point. The City Manager recommends, Amendment...
You have
Mrs. Gordon: Move it.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gordon, second by Gibson, further discussion, read the
ordinance, this is First Reading.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Read the Ordinance, please. 13.
(THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE RECORD)
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Plummer:
material and
who does not
tab.
Well, what is a great deal of money?
Mr. Mayor, just on the record. If you read the backup on this
I want it understood I'm all in favor of the lights, but anyone
sign a covenant or an assessment, the City is picking up the
Mayor Ferre: How much is that going to run?
Mr. Plummer: Well, they don't know because they don't know how many signatures
they are going to get.
Mrs. Gordon: I believe there is a certain percentage that must be obtained
before they would proceed.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, that's not the point. The point given to me was this
project was not going to cost the City any money, but according to the backup
material and Mr. Grassie, verifies it's true, those people who do not sign
will not be charged and the City has to pickup that portion and pay it.
Mrs. Gordon: What was it? 10"% Mr. Grassie that 90% have to sign?
Mr. Plummer: No, it's more than that Rose.
Mr. Grimm: Mrs. Gordon, what this amounts to is that any person who refuses
to pay the bill when we send it to them, unless we have a convenant, a legal
binding agreement, we are just out of luck. It's just that simple. This is
what I tried to tell the Commission the last time. Now, we have about 70%
or so signed now... Bill, Mr. Parkes just tells me it's up to 83%, so I
believe the Commission in it's wisdom said that this was a good gamble, but
I don't want you... you know, you could have people along side of one another,
one paying for an assessment and one not.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
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Mr, PlUMmeti That's the problem that 1 have Mt. Mayor, You know, t'n all
in favot of the fact that the school can't pay for it and softie ()theta tan't
you know, that are public uses, but
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, what are you recommending, sit?
Mr, Grassier I'm recommending Commissioner, that the City go ahead With this
project, 1 think that our chances of not collecting 95% of out assessment ate
very small.
Mayor Ferre: Ca11 the roll, please.
Mt. Grassie: I do think that it represent that we have to live with
it.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, I just wasn't...
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll, please.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 8716, ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, AS AMENDED,
THE ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
1978, BY ESTABLISHING A NEW PROJECT FOR COCONUT
GROVE BUSINESS AREA DECORATIVE PEDESTRIAN -SCALE
STREET LIGHTING; MAKING ADJUSTMENTS IN THE 1970 HIGH-
WAY GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE-
WITH; AND CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gordon and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
and passed on it first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Reboso.
ABSTAINING: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I'm not completely happy, but I'll go along with the Manager's
recommendation.
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21. AMEND SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719, THE SUMMARY GRANT
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY REDUCING CONTRIBUTION TO AFRICAN
SQUARE PARK TRUST & AGENCY FUND $61,991 FOR CETA POSITIONS.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 14, Amending Section 1 of the Ordinance 8719,
The Summary Grant Appropriations Ordinance, by reducing the contribution to
African Square Park Trust and Agency Fund of 61,991 for CETA positions and
so on. The Manager recommends.
Rev. Gibson: Move.
Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved Gibson, second by Gordon, further discussion,
read the Ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719,
ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, THE SUMMARY GRANT APPROPRIA-
TIONS ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED, BY CORRECTING ORDINANCE
NO. 8795, ADOPTED APRIL 27, 1978; BY REDUCING THE
CONTRIBUTION TO AFRICAN SQUARE PARK TRUST AND AGENCY
FUND IN AN AMOUNT OF $61,991 FOR CETA POSITIONS;
BY RESTORING THE SAME AMOUNT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM (CETA TITLE II) TRUST AND AGENCY
FUND; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner
Gordon and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
22. AMEND SECTIONS 1 & 5 of Ordinance No. 8731, The Annual
Appropriations Ordinance by increasing the appropriation for
the Melreese Golf Course Enterprise Fund by $10,000.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 15, on First Reading, the Manager recommends,
is there a motion? This is the Melress Golf Course.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, this was my proposal and here again, I'm sorry
to take up your time.
Mayor Ferre: It's not my time, it's your time.
Mr, Plummer: My time. If you would read the backup material, as proposed
by this Commission, we would afford the players of golf at these golf courses
the right to have drinks. Now, when you read what is being proposed they
are putting in a lounge for seating of two hundred, three thousand square
feet and it looks like to me we are putting in a booze house first and golf,
Now, you know, I'm sorry how things get so far out of context the way they
are proposed and you know, it's one thing for a golfer to come in and have
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a drink and it's another thing for a drunker to maybe go out and play golf.
Now, you know.:.
Mayor Ferre: But what plutnmer... I don't... listen...
Mr. Howard: Ve are really... I have the plans here from Mr. Neltjca. N'e are
enlarging the eating facility which will include the bar. It has nothing to
do with...
Mayor Ferre: Which improvements than? Ate you for this Al?
Mr. Howard: Yes, because we recommended in the agreement with him that the
City would work to give him a center to improve the facility.
Mayor Ferre: Do you agree with it? Mr. Grassie, do you agree with it? You
are recommending it? Alright, there is a motion... who moves this thing?
Rev. Gibson: I move.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson moves, is there a second? Is there a second? Reboso
seconds item number 15, further discussion, call the roll. Read the Ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8731,
ADOPTED DECEMBER 16, 1977, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1978, AS AMENDED, BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE MELREESE GOLF COURSE
ENTERPRISE FUND, IN AN AMOUNT OF $10,000, BY INCREASING
ANTICIPATED REVENUES FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND, MELREESE GOLF COURSE,
BY THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENOVATING THE CLUB
HOUSE; CO1LT'AINING_.A_REPEALER PROVISION AND_A SEVERABILITY.__CLAUSE;y
AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THIS ORDINANCE
ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS
OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Vice -Mayor Reboso
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Reboso, Mr. Plummer and Mrs. Gordon.
NOES: Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, around here if the Manager recommends that's
all that's necessary. I vote yes, why not, hell don't look at the material.
I don't know why I waste my time, you know.
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23. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE • PROVIDE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE TO
RETIREES.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 1116, Ordinance on First Reading.
Rev. Gibson: I move.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson moves 16, Rose Gordon seconds, further discussion,
read the Ordinance.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Read the Ordinance and then we will recognize Tony.
(THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, Gordon?
Mr. Wilcox: Is this on Second Reading?
Mr. Ongie: It's First Reading.
Mr. Wilcox: Well, can you make it emergency?
Mrs. Gordon: Pardon me?
Mr. Wilcox: Can you make it emergency Maurice?
Rev. Gibson: He wants to know if you could make it emergency... Mr. Mayor?
Mrs. Gordon: Shall we read it twice?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, he wants to know if they can make this an emergency
ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: I have no objections to moving that on.
Rev. Gibson: I have no objections either.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, we can do it then.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have any objections to it?
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Rev. Gibson: #16.
Mayor Ferre: Can we vote on it as an emergency?
Rev. Gibson: God knows we have been waiting long etough.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mrs. Gordon: What?
Mayor Ferre: Any objections to it? Alright,..,
Mrs, Gordon: It's ok.
Mayor Ferre: ... Father Gibson moves and Rose Gordon seconds on an emergency
basis. The Ordinance have been read, call the roil op the First Reading.
JUL 131978
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR AN ADJUSTMENT
EFFECTIVE AS OF THE DATE OF FUNDING IN THE
PENSIONS OF ALL BENEFICIARIES OF THE MIAMI
CITY EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND OF
THE MIAMI CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT
PLAN SO THAT AS RESPECTS EACH BENEFICIARY AS
OF SUCH DATE, THE PENSION BENEFIT SHALL BE
INCREASED BY AN AGGREGATE AMOUNT DETERMINED
BY INCREASING THE PENSION BENEFITS BY ONE-HALF
OF ONE PERCENT (.5%) OF THE FIRST THREE
HUNDRED DOLLARS OF THE ORIGINAL BENEFIT FOR
EACH YEAR, SINCE THE RESPECTIVE DATE OF
RETIREMENT FOR EACH BENEFICIARY; AND BY PROVIDING
THAT THE AMOUNT OF EACH SUCH INCREASE SHALL BE
ADDED TO THE PRESENT PENSION BENEFIT, AND THE
RESULTING AMOUNT SHALL HENCEFORTH BE PAYABLE ON
A MONTHLY BASIS; AND BY FURTHER PROVIDING THAT
FOR PURPOSES OF APPLYING THE ORDINANCE PROVISION
OF ORDINANCE NO. 7798, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 25,
1969, PETAINING TO VARIABLE UNITS OF RETIREMENT
INCOME, THE ADJUSTED PENSION BENEFIT AS HEREIN -
ABOVE DETERMINED SHALL BE USED AS BASE MONTHLY
RETIREMENT ALLOWANCE FOR THE COMPUTATION OF
BENEFIT CHANGES, IF ANY, WHICH ARISE BY REASON
OF CHANGE IN THE VALUE OF VARIABLE UNITS; AND
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY PROVISION, A REPEALER
CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner
Gordon for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement
of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and
seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted said Ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 8826
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
tat copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
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Mr. Wilcox: Mr. Mayor, we would like td discuss the problem we have with
insurance, l think each one of you have the letter of what the City tut
out the $3,88 they Were giving the Retitee!s and we mould like to hAye that
taken up at this meeting or the next meeting,
Rey. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I would like to speak to this, I SAW some memorandum
of a kind. I would hope that since we were already.,, we had already
appropriated the $3.88, is that right?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Rev. Gibson: Some such figure, I don't remember, that we continue but that
the Manager and the Legal Department work out a legal reasonable way that
they get the $3.88, you had already budgeted it and just work it out, And
don't let us all give out it today and nor take it away from these, God knows
you will make my summer bad if you do.
Mr. Wilcox: Alright, thank you, Father Gibson.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok. What was that a motion, Father? I'll second it.
Rev.
them
Gibson: That's a motion that the Administration work methodology
the $3.88...
of giving
Mrs. Gordon: From the money that's budgeted.
Rev. Gibson: ... that was already budgeted and how they work that out, we
will leave it to you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its
adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-451
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO DEVELOP A METHODOLOGY TO RETURN PAYMENT OF $3.88
PER MONTH IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS TO RETIRED EMPLOYEES
WHICH WERE FORMERLY PAID BY THE CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: Hazel it was good to see you,
Hazel Brown; We would like to offer a word of thanks to all of you for going
along with us and I would like to extend an invitation for you to come out
and attend our meeting on September 10,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Thank you, very much.
Hazel Brown: Thank you, all,
Rev. Gibson; One
as small as it is
Mrs. Gordon; Yes,
thing I like about you all you never forget to ssy thanks,
some times.
gentle people.
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24. AMEND SECTIONS 1, 2 & 5 OF 8731, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE BY INCREASING APPROPRIATION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BY $23,959 FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSFERRING THREE POSITIONS FROM
THE DEPT. OF COMPUTERS & COMMUNICATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPT.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are on item 1117, itls on First Reading? the Manager
recommends. Plummer are you going to move this one.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Where did Plummer go?
Rev. Gibson: I move.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson moves. Plummer are you around?
Rev. Gibson: He is gone somewhere. (Inaudible)
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Commissioner Reboso seconds, further discussion.
read the Ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: I move it,
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Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second, further discussion,
call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SETIONS 1, 2 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 8731, ADOPTED DECEMBER 16, 1977, THE ANNUAL
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 1978, AS AMENDED; BY INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AN AMOUNT
OF $23,959; BY DECREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR INTER-
DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES, COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS,
WITHIN SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS BY THE SAME AMOUNT;
AND BY DECREASING THE REVENUES AND APPROPRIATIONS FOR
THE INTRAGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS, COMPUTERS AND
COMMUNICATIONS, BY THE SAME AMOUNT; FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TRANSFERRING THREE (3) POSITIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Vice -Mayor
Reboso and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
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25, AMEND SECTIONS 1 & 5 OF ORDINANCE N0. 8731, THE ANNUAL APPRO-
PRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY INCREASING APPROPRIATION FOR ENTERPRISE
FUNDS, ORANGE BOWL BY $100,000 TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
ORANGE BOWL PRESS BOX.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item I)182 the Manager recommends.
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me just briefly for the record indicate... Father
this is for that time of the year, aspecially during Super Bowl when we have
Media from all over the whole, we have to accommodate them and this is the
old press box and that's what it's for.
Rev. Gibson: I remember.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: He just seconded it. Further discussion, read the Ordinance.
Alright, call the roll.
:110 AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMEN
OF ORDINANCE NO. 8731, ADOP
THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS 0
YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATI('
FUNDS, ORANGE BOWL, IN AN !,
INCREASING ENTERPRISE FUNDS
NET FUND BALANCE, BY THE SA
1976-77 ORANGE BOWL RETAINI
POSED OF MAKING IMPROVEMENT
BOX; CONTAINING A REPEALER
BILITY CLAUSE.
)ING SECTIONS 1 AND 5
FED DECEMBER 16, 1977
tDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL
)78, AS AMENDED, BY
V FOR THE ENTERPRISE
1OUNT OF $100,000;
OPERATING REVENUES,
CIE AMOUNT; FROM THE
) EARNINGS; FOR THE PUR-
S TO THE ORANGE BAWL PRESS
PROVISION AND A SEVERA-
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of
reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodo3e R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on moticn of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Gibson, adopted said Ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO, 8827
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
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27. URGINGIADOPTIONOOFGSAID SITES BYITHERDADETSTATIONS
COUNTY COMMISSION.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, take up item #20, which is the...
Rev. Gibson: Isn't that the same as we had this morning?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I think we need it in a resolution.
Rev. Gibson: Move.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson moves, Plummer seconds, further discussion, call the
roll.
Mr. Plummer:
Clara?
Wait a minute, hey, where is Station Group VI? Is that Santa
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: We went over that this morning.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I voted against The Santa Clara, Mr. Mayor, that's
why I'm saying I have to clarify it.
Mrs. Gordon: Which one are we on...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: That includes it, I will have to withdraw my second, Mr. Mayor.
I voted against it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, then Reboso seconds.
Rev. Gibson: Rose second it.
Mayor Ferre: Rose Gordon seconds, further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-452
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE STATION GROUP
FIVE RAPID TRANSIT STATIONS AS APPROVED
BY THE CITIZENS' COMMITTEE IN MILESTONE E
PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND URGING THE ADOPTION
OF SUCH SITES BY THE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Rose Gordon, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES;
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ON ROLL CALL
Mr, Plummer; Because of The Santa Clara Station, I have to vote the negative.
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28. URGE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION TO PROVIDE FOR JOINT PRIVATE AND
PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN RAPID TRANSIT STATION
SITES.
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Mayor Ferre: Take up item 1i21 urging Dade County to provide a Joint Private
and Public Development Opportunities within Rapid Transit Station... All
right, it's been moved by Gibson, .seconded by Reboso, further discussion
on item 1121, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-453
A RESOLUTION URGING THE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION
TO PROVIDE FOR JOINT PRIVATE AND PUBLIC
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN RAPID
TRANSIT STATION SITES AND STATION AREAS
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
29. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LOWELL-DU(NN COMPANY FOR:
VIRGINIA KEY FILL PHASE III .4ND AUTHORIZE FILIAL PAYMENT
OF $5,746.75.
Mayor Ferre: Resolution accepting the completed by Lowell -Dunn in Virginia
Key, $5,000, Gibson moves, Plummer seconds, further discussion on item 22,
call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-454
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY THE LOWELL-DUNN COMPANY AT A
TOTAL COST OF $57,467.50 FOR THE VIRGINIA
KEY FILL PHASE III; AND AUTHORIZING A
FINAL PAYMENT OF $5,746.75
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner J. L. Plummet, Jr., the resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES:
Commissioner J, L. Plummer, Jr.
Couuuissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
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Vide Mayor ltanolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Fette
NOES: None.
30. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - BUENA VISTA COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT
PHASE II - Bid "B"
Draina_e
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 23, City Manager recommends, Gibson moves, Gordon
seconds it, further discussion. It's completion award, Manager recom-
mends for three and a half thousand dollars. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-455
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY P.N.M. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL
COST OF $33,532.25 FOR THE BUENA VISTA
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT -PHASE II
(BID "B" - DRAINAGE); AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL
PAYMENT OF $3,498.12
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Rose Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
31. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - SOUTH GROVE BICYCLE PATH
MODIFICATION
Mayor Ferre: Take up 24.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson seconds it, further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
who moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 78-456
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK
PERFORMED BY C.M.P. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL
CAST OF $32,694.50 FOR THE SOUTH GROVE
BICYCLE PATH MODIFICATION AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $3,269.45
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(Hete follows body of resolution, Omitted here and do file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson, the resoa.
lution tans passed and adopted by the following vote:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Note.
32, ACCEPT HIGHWAY PURPOSE DEED OF DEDICATION
5300 N. W. 2nd Avenue
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 25 for Highway purposes Deed of Dedication from
5300 Bar and Package, Inc. 5-foot strips and so on, Manager recommends,
Gibson moves, Plummer seconds it. further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-457
A RESOLUTION ACMPTING FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES
A DEED OF DEDICITION FROM 5300 BAR AND PACKAGE,
INC., CONVEYING A 5-FOOT STRIP OF ZONED STREET
RIGHT-OF-WAY ABUTTING 5300 N. W. 2 AVENUE
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr., the resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
33. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER
TO PURCHASE PROPERTY
IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION
1115 S. W. 2 Avenue
Mayor Ferre: On item 26 Manager recommends, Gibson moves, Reboso seconds it,
further discussion.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, ,xn vote 26 and 27 I have questions before resolved
by the Department and the Manager. I only wish to add at this time a word
of caution because of what happened here today. Mr. Manager you know that's
moving to the westside of the tracks. Please make specially sure that there
are no obstruction by Rapid Transit to that station responding to the east-
side of the tracks. I've thought about that, that thing comes down to grade
level. It could create a major problem for the Fire Department and I beg
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you to check and make sure that the Fite Depattment and Rapid Transit do not
have a conflict. All right, sit, I only add that but everything else Itfn
resolved on it.
Hayot Ferre: All rights further discussion, call the toll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-458
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE
IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE
COMPRISED OF 1,260 SQ. FT. ON A LOT 90' X 50' LOCATED
AT 1115 SOUTHWEST SECOND AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR
THE SUM OF FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY-
FIVE ($48,775.00) DOLLARS, AND ALLOCATING FIFTY THOUSAND
($50,000.00) DOLLARS FROM FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION
& RESCUE FACILITY BOND FUNDS TO COVER THE COST OF
ACQUISITION OF FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO THIS PROPERTY AND
OTHER COSTS INCIDENTAL TO THIS ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER
34. TO PURCHASE PROPERTY
IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION:
1131 S. W. 2nd Avenue
Mayor Ferre: On 27 it's the same thing.
Rev. Gibson: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson moves, Reboso seconds it, further discussion, Manager
recommends, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
'Gibson who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-459
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE
IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND
ONE VACANT LOT COMPRISED OF 12,000 SQ. FT. OF LAND AREA
AND 1370 SQ. FT. BUILDING AREA, LOCATED AT 1131 SOUTHWEST
SECOND AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE SUM Or SEVENTY
THOUSAND ($70,000.00) DOLLARS, AND ALLOCATING SEVENTY-TWO
($72,000.00) THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE
PREVENTION & RESCUE FACILITY B01D FUNDS TO COVER THE COST
ACQUISITION FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO THIS PROPERTY AND OTHER
COSTS INCIDENTAL TO THE ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk,)
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tipoft berg aeootided by Vide Mayor Manolo Rebosoi the tesoiutiot Vas passed
and adopted by the fellowttg Vote:
kits:
NOES: None.
Co missioner J. t',. plutntner, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibsoti
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
35. MOTION OF
INTENT:
NO PERMIT TO DEMOLISH
"FREEDOM TOWER"
WITHOUT CONSENT AND REVIEW
OF THE CITY COMMISSION
Mayor Ferre: Item 27.1, this stating the intent of the Commission that no
City funded or City permitted activity which would alter or demolish The
Freedom Tower be undertaken unless such activity be first brought to the
attention of the City Commission.
Mrs. Gordon: The only thing that I think that's absolutely essential here
is some time element be inserted because this is open-ended the way it's
written. Mr. Grassie, can you make a recommendation?
Mr. Grassie: The difficulty, I think that what you're trying to accomplish,
Commissioner, is that we not infringe on property rights by unduly delaying
people who ask for a permit. Now, the only difficulty that we have is matching
up with the City Commission schedule. Since you normally meet, at least every
two weeks with the exception of August, if we were to put a time limit of not
more than 15 days, I think that we would be able, normally we would be able
to have a City Commission meeting within that period of time. Now, that still
may put us subject to a court challenge.
Mrs. Gordon: I understand though that there is an attempt to have this fight,
declared a start of fight, is that correct? And that is the reason for this
request, correct?
Mrs. Dolly Mac Intyre: This is defined to be frankly interim protection for
this building until #t1 the National Register listing is approved; until #i2
the City of Miami has a full and complete ordinance covering historic preser-
vation. I drafted the original resolution that's before you today but what
you have in front of you is considerably different and frankly does nothing.
If I may, I would like to point out the two specific differences and answer
your concerns about the taking of property rights.
Mrs. Gordon: The one you prepared does.
Mrs. Mac Intyre? Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Well,do we have a copy of that, Mr. Grassie? The one that was
prepared by....
Mrs. Mac Intyre: I sent copies to each of you and to the City Manager of
our proposal. It went through your Law Department and came out and I was
called by the Law Department, they said they had handled it, that they made some
changes but I would recognize it. Well, I do recognize it but frankly I
think the changes, it's a kind of substantial and I would like it pointed
out to you so that you are aware.
Mr, Plummer: What do you want in end?
Mrs, Mac Intyre: What our ordinance proposed says is that no City funded or
City permitted activity which will result in the alteration or demolition
of the Freedom Tower shall be authorized without approval of the City Com-
mission,
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Mt. Plurher: Let the simply for you, if it's legal I've got no problem With
it, okay? And if the City Attorney tells me that based upon your legal intetpte-
tation it's legal, I will...I'll vote for it. I'm just, seems like to the
we're being asked to vote on something that's not legal. That's all fny problem is.
Mt. Alvarez: Tell him, I must claitii ignorance.
Mr. Plummer: No comment.
Mt& Clark: Let me explain, Mrs. Gordon requested that we take a look at an
assigment, it was a transmitted ordinance, it was not in proper form. We did
look at it and we prepared a resolution simply declaring that 1:he Freedom
Tower be considered a City historic landmark, period, where there is nothing
we don't have the historic preservation ordinance that New York City has, we
don't, we are not geared for that but did prepare a resolution simply stating
that the intent of this Commission was simply that it wanted to before any
City activity or City funded activity took place that would alter the....
Mayor Ferre: Plummer has no problem with that, where Plummer has a problem
with is the second portion of it which is the question of activities and I
think what he is saying and it's a very simple solution to it, he said within
the law.
Mr. Plummer: Within the law.
Mr. Grassie: May I comment,Mr. Mayor and Members of the City Commission, the
task of administering whatever it is that your doubt, of course, will be mine
eventually. Now, I would recommend that if you want to accomplish this kind of
purpose that we set of a process other than simply have somebody and suggest
to you that the building be declared a significant landmark, that you set up
a process so that you have some kind of a committee of yours which make recom-
mendation of thesesuch of things to you....
Mr. Mayor: Oh, not only that....
Mr. Grassie:
Mayor Ferre:
going to...
....after they've review the merits.
All right, that, but you also have to give the people that you're
you know, the origin of that building what trey are....
Mr. Grassie: They have to have notice.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you've got a lot to know what you're doing to that property,
I mean, that's all I can
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: But you've got to let these people know what you're doing, I
mean, name it that an agreement but....
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: And they do pay taxes, they do on the property, ire have an
obligation to them, to let them know.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: I agree with what Mr. Grassie just said, and there is a
present, a draft of this historic preservation ordinance that has been prepared,
preliminary draft. Frankly, it's going to be at least a year before that thing
it's complete ironed out and presented before this Commission. In the meantime,
if the owner of the Freedom Tower called, Mr. Grassie's Office right now and
said can you al: be on the job at 7:00 A.M. tomorrow morning, what could you do?
You'd be notifiod and the building would be gone.
Mr. Plummer: A:1 the way the usual City operation takes, it'd be 30 days
before it got its permit.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: No, because all they have to do is tell you, according to this,
to tell you what's going to happen.
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Mr. PlUther: City funded?
Mayor Ferre: How can you go wrong with that?
Mrs. Mac Intyre: Or City permit.
Mr. Crassie: Well, that's the problem
Mr. Plummer: That's part of the owner.
Mayor Ferret Well, it's very simple, within the law, I mean, obviously we
can't do this that are illegal.
Mr. Plummer: That's it.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: May I point out to you that the Supreme Court of the United
States has just appealled a New York Landmark's Commission ruling that Grand
Central Station is a landmark and that they cannot alter the property and I
have a copy of the complete opinion of the Supreme Court which I would like
to present to this Commission for your Law Department, for your permanent
files because this has been and I expected this question to come from you,
Mr. Plummer, that taking the property right now. The way I have it in the
file, however, is what you just read. That's the way was proposed, it is not
what it's before you for approval.
Mr. Plummer: But how are you telling me and who privately owns a piece of
property that he can't get a permit.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: You are not telling him that.
Mr. Plummer: What are we telling him?
Mrs. Mac Intyre: He has to have your approval to get the permit, it doesn't
say that you are not going to give him the permit.
Mr. Plummer: Isn't that descrimination?
Mrs. Mac Intyre: No.
Mr. Plummer: It would not? Are we going to give every property owner that?
Mrs. Mac Intyre: No. The first step of this ordinance it's that you are
declaring it a City historic site.
(BACKGROUNG COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I'm sorry that I am a hang up on due process, I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: (Inaudible)... that its property shouldn't be deprive without
due compensation, that' old fashion.
Mrs. Gordon: How long would it take you....
Mr- Plummer: It's the law that doesn't want to get a
Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask a question.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: No, it doesn't.
Mayor Ferre: What? The Supreme Court has a rule.
Mrs. Mac Intyre: The Supreme Court has just appealed that and real quickly,
because I know you are all on a hurry and I don't want to take your time but
just let me read this real quickly. "The significance for preservationist
is a screamed port holding that a landmark owner's property has not been taken
without compensation when government restrict it's used of a site it had wanted
to redevelop. The taking issue has been a major problem whenever preservation
has wished to regulate a historic building. And now the Supreme Court has
related a historic preservation lock to zoning and other accepted uses of
police power". This is....
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Mayor Ferret t4eli, as a certain;, certain as a stop gap measure type of a
thing, I`d be perfectly willing to Vote on it with the understanding that you
teseatch this thing and come back with a better recoiettdation and theft we
can reassume this....
Mts. Gordon: tte could do that because this is something and if we don t do
this you have nothing so.
Mayor Ferre: Well, could be willing to vote on temporary type of a basis.
Mrs. Gordon: All right, I'll move it.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second.
Mrs. Gordon! 27,1
Mr. Grassier You're not voting what you have in front of you, your intent
is that we hold any demolition permits on this property and bring them to you
on this specific property and at the same time that we develop a historic
preservation ordinance....
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Mr. Grassie: ,...But you are not doing anything precipitous of our establishing
a way of establishing landmarks within the City of Miami.
Mrs. Gordon: Isn't harm enough declaring that we consider this a historic
landmark. I don't see how we can be faulted for declaring it.
Mayor Ferre: I just happen to have a philosophical problem with that and that
is, that, that I think the least you owe is the courtesy of a notice to the
people who own and pay taxes on the property. Good God, are these people....
Mrs. Gordon: I agree with that. Okay, all right
Mayor Ferre: ...you know, just let them know what we're going to do...
Mrs. Gordon: We'll just pass a motion of intent.
Mayor Ferre: That's fine.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are we clear with what....
Mr. Alvarez: Just no resolution, just a motion of intent.
Mayor Ferre: This is a motion of intention and this instructs the Manager
that he can't give anybody any permits, you understand, to demolish the
building and that saves it, and then you come back as soon as you can with
some positive thing that we can go on, and then give these people notice and
all that. All right. Is that all right?
Rear. Gibson: Yes, sure.
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved
its adoption;
MOTION NO. 78-460
A MOTION EXPRESSING THE INTENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION
REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER NOT TO ISSUE ANY DEMOLITION
PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURE KNOWN AS THE FREEDOM TOWER
PRIOR TO REVIEW OF THIS MATTER BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
JUL 131978
Upon being aedonded by Commisaiofter (Rev.) Oihson, the WHAM was passed
and adopted by the following Vae!
AYES! Commissioner J t PlummerJt
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Hanoi° Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Perre
NOESt None.
7 JUL 1 3 1978
=MENIIr
AUTHORIZE CITY
36, MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AGREEMENT:
MERCY HOSPITAL
City of Miami Firefighters
Physical Examinations
Mayor Ferret Take up item 1128..... moved by Plummer, seconded by Gibson..
Further discussion. Ca11 the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-461
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT WITH MERCY
HOSPITAL, INC. FOR ITS PHYSICAL EXAMINATIONS
OF CITY OF MIAMI FIREFIGHTERS IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE
SAID AGREEMENT WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED
FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGETED FUNDS TO
COVER THE COST OF SAID EXAMINATIONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
and on
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gipson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE CITY
37. MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AGREEMENT:
MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
Downtown Campus
use of Baseball Stadium
Mayor Ferre: Item 1 29 ... Rose Gordon moves, Father Gibson seconds.
Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-462
A RESOLUTION GRANTING USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL
,STADIUM BY MIAMI DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DOWNTOWN
CAMPUS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING ITS BASEBALL
PRACTICE SESSIONS FROM SEPTEMBER 1, 1978 THROUGH
FEBRUARY 1, 1979 SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF THE
STADIUM ON CERTAIN DATES; AND FURTHER SUBJECT TO
ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL, INSURANCE
AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY, AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACHED
AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DOWNTOWN
CAMPUS, FOR SAID USE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gipson t the. t;es,olution
was passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES: Cotiiinissionet Rose. Gordon
Coininiss±oner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Cotnmiss.ioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice. A. Ferre
NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE CITY
38. MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AGREEMENT:
Accept 18 GOLF TEE CONSOLES
for both
GOLF COURSES
Mayor Ferre: Item 11 30 .... Father Gibson moves. Reboso seconds.
Manager recommends. Further discussion on item 11 30. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-463
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ACCEPT THE DONATION OF 36 GOLF TEE CONSOLE UNITS
FOR CITY -OWNED GOLF COURSES FROM NATIONAL GOLF
MEDIA, INC., IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconied by Vice Mayor Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner. (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.* (LATER IN THE MEETING REQUESTED THAT
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso HIS VOTE BE CHANGED TO A "NO" VOTE.)
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOE;: None.
ABSEBTL
•
39. WAIVE RENTAL
FEES:
LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER
"Tarde De Estrellas"
Latin Variety Show NOV. 19, 1978
Mayor Ferre: Reboso moves item 1131. Gibson seconds. Further discussion.
SA11 the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-464
A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE USE OF
THE LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER ON NOVEMBER 19, 1978
FOR THE PRESENTATION OF A LATIN VARIETY SHOW ENTITLED
"TARDC DE ESTRELLAS", SPONSORED BY THE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY
ASSOCLATION, SUBJECT TO PAYMENT FOR EVENT PERSONNEL,
INSURANCE, AND OTHER DIRECT COSTS BORNE BY THE CITY, AND
PROVIDING THAT THE SAID SPONSOR SUBMIT TO THE CITY MANAGER,
WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF SUCH FACILITY USE, A DETAILED
ACCOUNTING OF GROSS FUNDS RECEIVED BY IT BY WAY OF FACILITY
ADMISSION FEES AND FUNDS RAISED IN CONNECTION WITH THE
AFORESAID EVENT, TOGETHER WITH A DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF FUNDS
DISBURSED, INCLUDING THE MANNER IN WHICH NET PROFITS ARE TO
DISBURSED, TOGETHER WITH A STATEMENT OF THE SUMS DISBURSED.
JUL 1?1978
(mete f011otas body of resolution# omitted here and oh
file in the Office of the City Clerk).:_
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the tesolution was
passed aihd adopted by the following vote;
AM
Cotntnissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Comissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
AUTHORIZE CITY
40. MANAGER TO
REQUIRE TENANTS:
Pier 5 - to vacate berths
October 19 through October 26
EXPOSITION CORP. OF AMERICA
(Boat Show)
Mayor Ferre; Take up item 41 32... City Manager recommends. Plummer moves.
Reboso seconds. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-465
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO REQUIRE THAT THE TENANTS OF DINNER KEY
MARINA PIER 5 VACATE THEIR BERTHS FOR THE PERIOD
BEGINNING OCTOBER 19, 1978 AND ENDING OCTOBER 26, 1978,
AND THAT THEIR DOCKAGE PAYMENTS BE WAIVED FOR THAT PERIOD
OF TIME WITH NO LOSS OD DOCKAGE RIGHTS OR SENIORITY; AND
FURTHER AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
CONTRACT WITH THE EXPOSITION CORPORATION OF AMERICA FOR
THE USE OF PIER 5 FOR SAID PERIOD OF TIME FOR A FEE TO
BE NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND EXPOSITION
CORPORATION OF AMERICA, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE
CITY COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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41, Set fee of $5.00 per Escort Motorcycle
MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT FUNERAL MOTORCYCLE ESCORT
Alright, item 11 33, show that Mr. Plummer abstainsfrom voting on item
33. Further Gibson moves. Rose Gordon seconds. Further discussion on
item 33. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-466
A RESOLUTION SETTING A FEE OF $5 PER ESCORT
MOTORCYCLE TO BE CHARGED ANY PARTY WHO REQUESTS
AND IS PROVIDED WITH A MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT
FUNERAL MOTORCYCLE ESCORT; SAID FEE BEING
EXCLUSIVE OF THE MANPOWER FEE WHICH IS PAYABLE
TO THE INDIVIDUAL ESCORT MOTORCYCLE OFFICER BY
THE REQUESTING PARTY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
42. GRANT 1-YEAR
EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT:
VIRGINIA LIEBERMAN
Police Department
Mayor Ferre: Item 1i 34, Rose Gordon moves. Plummer seconds. Further
discussion on Ms. Lieberman. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-467
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND APPROVING A ONE YEAR
EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF 70 FOR
VIRGINIA LIEBERMAN,TYPIST CLERK II, POLICE DEPARTMENT,
EFFECTIVE JULY 29, 1978 TO JULY 29, 1979, WITH PROVI-
SION THAT IN THE EVENT OF A ROLLBACK OR LAYOFF,
MS. LIEBERMAN, RATHER THAN A JUNIOR EMPLOYEE, WOULD
BE AFFECTED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R, Gibson
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre
NOES; None,
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Corbar's Trucking 6
La Fe Trash S Waste
43, ISSUE WASTE Manuel White &
COLLECTION LICENSES: Packed Sanitation
Hauling;
Service;
Co. Inc.
Mayor Fetre: The Manager recommends Item 35 on Waste Collection License
etc., Gibson Moves. Reboso seconds. Further discussion on item
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commmissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 78-468
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A WASTE
COLLECTION LICENSE TO CORBAR'S TRUCKING & TRASH
HAULING, INC.; LA FE TRASH & WASTE SERVICE; MANUEL
WHITE AND PACKED SANITATION COMPANY, INC. PERMITTING
THEM TO COMMENCE DOING BUSINESS UPON FULL COMPLIANCE
WITH CHAPTER 20 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ACQUIRE FEE SIMPLE TITLE-
44, certain property for:
COCONUT GROVE MINI -PARK
Mayor Ferre: Take up item # 36. .
item 36, Coconut Grove?
Rev. Gibson: Yes sir.
Father Gibson are you going to move
Mayor Ferre: Reboso do you want to second it? Further discussion on item
36. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-469
A RESOLUTION FINDING AND DETERMINING THE PUBLIC NEED
AND NECESSITY FOR ACQUIRING THE FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO
CERTAIN PROPERTY DESCRIBED HEREIN TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC
PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE COCONUT GROVE
MINI -PARK AND DIRECTING THE CITY LAW DEPARTMENT TO
INSTITUTE AND PROSECUTE TO A CONCLUSION ALL OF THE
NECESSARY LEGAL ACTIONS TO ACQUIRE THE FEE SIMPLE TITLE
TO THIS PROPERTY AS SOON AS IT IS LEGALLY POSSIBLE,
INCLUDING THE FILING OF A DECLARATION OF TAKING.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
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tport being seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso, the tesoluticsn was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummet, Jr,
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferte
NOBS: None.
45. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: Maria C. Vidal and
Bart C. Vidal
Mayor Ferre: Take up item #137. . . City Attorney recommends. Reboso moves.
Gibson seconds. Further discussion. Plummer,do you have any objections?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Ferre: $20,000.00. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-470
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
TO PAY TO MARIA C. VIDAL AND BART C. VIDAL WITHOUT
THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $20,000.00
IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY,
LOSS OF USE, AND PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIMS AND DEMANDS
AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, UPON THE EXECUTION OF A
RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS
AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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Mayor Fette: Confiscation of riffles and all that a.tuff, do you have any
ptohleths with that Pluimnef?
Mr. Plutnttter: I was asked for a statement frbt the. police Departt ent4
Mt. Grassie (INAUDIBLE STATEMENT) , I did? (MNAUDIB.L$ kt8pot4SE) .
Where is it distributedi please? I've not had tithe to read it, Move to
defer on that.
Mrs, Gordon: Which one?
Mr. Plutntner: I asked for a statement of the Police Chief,
Mrs, Gordon: 38?
Mr. Plummer: On 38 is correct.
Mrs, Gordon: Ok, so you want to defer that?
Mr, Plummer: It's not available to the press.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion for deferral?
Mr. Plummer: 39 I move. I think it's a great price that the. City has
gotten.
Mrs. Gordon: Did you call the roll on the deferment?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, call the roll on 38, please.
Mr. Plummer: No, just defer it until I have timeto read this.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh!
(ITEM 1138 . . . TEMPORARILY DEFERRED).
46. ACCEPT BID - REPLACEMENT OF HANDGUNS
Police Department
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, you mean today. Alright, take up item 1139 Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: I think 39 is a good deal and I think it shoulf be noted that
this is money that was derived from not throwing guns into the ocean and it
is buying the new guns.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Gibson seconds. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-471
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF JONES EQUIPMENT CO.
FOR FURNISHING 221 HAND GUNS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
POLICE AT A TOTAL COST OF $19,954.09; ALLOCATING
FUNDS FROM 1977-78 POLICE DEPT. BUDGET: AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE
THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AXES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev,) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Maurice A, Ferre
NOES: None,
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4
Mayor Ferre: Take up item #40.
Rev. Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson moves. Gordon seconds. Further discussion. Call the
roll for Wainwright Park.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-472
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF AMERICAN WOOD
PRODUCTS FOR FURNISHING 1,000 CUBIC YARDS OF CYPRESS
MULCH FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS; AT A TOTAL COST OF
$10,400.00 ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM WAINWRIGHT PARK
DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND - 1975.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT
TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS MATERIAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibscn
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
48. ACCEPT BID - BASKETBALL COURT AND TOT LOT
Henderson PARK
(Community Dev.Project)
Mayor Ferre: Reboso moves item #141, Plummer seconds. Further discussion.
Manager recommends. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Reboso, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-473
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF BETTER CONSTRUCTION, INC.
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $60,500 FOR HENDERSON PARK -
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT - BASKETBALL COURT AND TOT
LOT; WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE 3RD YEAR FEDERAL
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF
$60,500 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID
FUND THE AMOUNT OF $3,933 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT
EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $567 TO
COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABO-
RATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolutior, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the. resolution was
passtA and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commission r (Rev.) Theodore R. Cibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Comnis:,ioner J. L. Plummet, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NQS: None,
49. ACCEPT BID - COCONUT GROVE ;OMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
PAVING PROJECT
Mayor Ferre:
Mrs. Gordon:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
Draw up item ##42, Coconut Grove . . . Gibson moves.
Second.
Second by Gordon. Further discussion. Call the roll.
69 people were asked to hid, only 4 did.
RESOLUTION NO. 78-474
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF T & N CONSTRUCTION
COMPANY IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $349,855 FOR COCONUT
GROVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT; ALLOCATING
THE AMOUNT OF $191,855 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "HIGHWAY
BOND FUNDS" AND USING $158,000 ALLOCATED FROM THE "3RD
YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND" TO
COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING $38,484 FROM THE
ACCOUNT ENTITLED "HIGHWAY BOND FUNDS" TO COVER THE COST
OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING $3,661 FROM THE ACCOUNT
ENTITLED "HIGHWAY BOND FUNDS" TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH
ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE;
AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the res.olution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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50. ACCEPT BID - CULMER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING
PROJECT - Phase II 1978 and
CULMER SANITARY SEWER MODIFICATIONS
Mayor Ferre: Take up Item 1l 43, Manager recommends Culmer.
Rev. Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferret Gibson moves.
Mr. Plummer: 70 people were asked to bid, only 4 people saw fit to do it.
Mayor Ferre: Gordon seconds. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-475
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF T & N CONSTRUCTION CO.
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $154,729 FOR CULMER COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT - PHASE II - 1978 AND CULMER
SANITARY SEWER MODIFICATIONS - PHASE II - 1978; WITH FUNDS
ALLOCATED FROM THE 3RD YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $154,729 TO COVER THE
CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF
$17,020 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $2,251 TO COVER THE COST OF
SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND
POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
51. ACCEPT BID - LIABILITY INSURANCE
City owned PARKS, POOLS, PLAYGROUNDS
Mayor Ferre: Gordon moves item #644.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson seconds. Further discussion.
Mr. Plummer: 74 people were asked to bid, only 1 person bid.
Mayor Ferre; Well, call the roll.
Rev, Gibson; Thank God we got one.
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The following tesolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
Moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78,476
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID FROM UNITED NATIONAL
CO., THROUGH ITS LOCAL AGENT CHALLENGE INSURANCE,
INC., TO ISSUE A PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERING
CITY --OWNED PARKS, POOLS & PLAYGROUNDS., IN THE AMOUNT
OF $50,000 PER ACCIDENT, $100,000 PER OCCURRENCE FOR
BODILY INJURY AND $50,000 FOR PROPERTY DAMAGE, FOR
A THREE (3) YEAR PERIOD AT AN ANNUAL PREMIUM OF
$90,000.WITH A $1,000 DEDUCTIBLE PER OCCURRENCE, SAID
DEDUCTIBLE DISAPPEARING AFTER $25,000 HAS BEEN EXPENDED
IN ANY POLICY YEAR.
(Here follows body of resolution,, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the res.olution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
52. ACCEPT BID - CITY WIDE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
"TREE PLANTING"
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves item 41 45. Gordon seconds, this is for the trees.
Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: 37 people were asked to bid, only 5 saw fit to bid.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-477
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MELROSE NURSERY,
INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $118,575 FOR CITY WIDE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TREE PLANTING; ALLOCATING SAID
AMOUNT FROM THE 3RD YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $118,575 TO COVER
THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE
AMOUNT OF $13,043 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $2,372 TO COVER
THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORA-
TORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES; Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson'
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None.
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53, ACCEPT BID - ORANGE BOWL - Upper DECK
TRAFFIC BEARING SEAL COAT
Mayor Ferre: Takeup item ##46.
ReV. Gibson: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson. Seconded by Plummer. Further discussion.
Mr. Plummer: 31 people were asked to bid, only 3 people saw fit to bid.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-478
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DELTA PAINTING
CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,950.00 FOR THE
ORANGE BOWL - UPPER DECK - TRAFFIC BEARING SEAL
COAT; WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED
"ORANGE BOWL ENTERPRISE FUND" IN THE AMOUNT OF
$19,950.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $2,194.00 TO COVER THE
COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND
THE AMOUNT OF $399.00 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH
ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND
POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
54. WAIVE RENTAL
FEES:
SHOWMOBILE
Transportation Workers Union
Loca:! 291
JULY 29, 1978
Mayor Ferre: Item 114 9 .
Mr. Plummer: I move 49 Mr. Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: I'll second 49.
Mayor Fcrre: Alright, Plummer moves 49 and Rose Gordon seconds it,
Mr. Plumper: And, I strongly suggest that the Administration find a way
for doin; this on less than a poor nian's team at $84.00 a day, per man.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
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The following re$.oltttion was introduced by Commissioner Plummet, who
roved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-479
A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE
USE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI'S SHOWMOBILE ON
....... ................
JULY 29, 1978 BY THE TRANSPORTATION WORKERS
UNION, LOCAL 291, AT CRANDON PARK POR THEIR
ANNUAL PICNIC, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREFOR
FROM THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, -SPECIAL
COMMUNITY PROGRAM, QUALITY OF LIFE PROGRAM,
FEE WAIVER ACCOUNT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
55. CONTINUED DISCUSSION: BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL
Negotiations with DOLPHINS
Mayor Ferre:
We're back to the Dolphins.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, did we vote on that yo-yo machine over there?
Mr. Grimm: Yes.
Mr Plummer. Huh? What item? The ball washer. Mr. Clerk, how did you
record my vote on the ball washer, you recorded it 'yes'?
Mr. Ongie: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I want to make strong objections to advertising on the golf
courses and vote 'no'.
Mr. Ongie: Alright, I'll put you voting 'no'.
Mr. Plummer: Back to the other balls in the stadium,...
Mayor Ferre: Where are we? I don't understand this, this wasn't Gibson's
motion.
Mr. Plummer: I don't either.
Mayor Ferre: This was not your motion.
Mr. Plummer: No way shape or form.
Mayor Ferre: How can we end up with something like this? Who wrote this?
Mr. Plummer: Charlie Crumpton has now assumed the name of Toby or he shortly
will. They're going to write what they want.
Mayor Ferre: What is this? That wasn't the motion that was made, That's
this Orange Bowl thing. It was not the motion.
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Mr. Plummer: Thatta What t said.
Mayor Ferre: bete's the maker of the motion..
Rev, Gibson: No, what t did Mr. Mayor was I tried to point
that if you tied Joe Robbie ...
Mayor Ferret Would you listen to the maker of the motion?
Rev, Gibson: ... to give up his 3 years...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, excuse me, would you listen to the maker of the
motion?
Rev. Gibson: ... he's going all around trying to get another place built
and what I was hoping was that since he has a contract now with you... it
was said to me that the contract goes through 1986, isn't that right?
I said, alright since he has a 3 year escape clause if he gives it up.,,
Mr. Plummer: On football.
Rev. Gibson: ... yes, gives it up.
Mr. Plummer: Not on the concession.
Rev. Gibson: ... see.then,what we would do is we would then, we would get
something, and then what would happen is he couldn't go around trying to
get a football stadium built. See what I mean?
Mr. Plummer: I see what you mean.
Rev. Gibson: That was my reasoning.
Mr. Grassie: And, what this motion says then is that in return for his
giving up that escape clause that tle package that we had worked out with
him which does include concessions running through 1986 both beer and food
that those things would be what the City would give up, that's what the
motion says.
Mr. Plummer: In lieu of competitive bidding.
Mr. Grassie: That's correct, as is provided for in the contract you already
have.
Rev. Gibson: Well, you see J. L., you were warned that you had to offer the
man...
Mr. Plummer: Father, we..look, negotiation is give and take. We're going
to give him the right to sell beer for the next 3 years. Let him give up
the right in the 34year escape clause, not to b.id, not extension of 6 years
on his food concession. After that man took me to court?,oh no!
Rev. Gibson: Well, I don't mind just so he gives up that football, see,
he's been dangling around here try:.ng to get a football stadium built, and
my concern is that I want him to stop. Now, if he gives that up then I'd
.1 t him go with his beer business.
Mr. Jennings: May I say something?
Rev. Gibson: Alright.
Mr. Jennings: It occurs to me that there is some advantage , to having
all of these agreements expire the same year,in 1986, One major advantage
to this,that occurs to me,is that if in 1980 we go out for bid for a new
concessionaire at that particular point and time Mr.. Robbie's contract, that
is, his football contract,will now have only six more years to run, quite
frankly, in my opinion you will not get a very good bid from a concessionaire
to come in and run his concessions at the Orange Bowl if he knows that all
you've got remaining on your contract with the Dolphins is 6 years...
Rev, Gibson: That's right,
Mr. Jennings: They are not going to give you ,,,
Mr. Plummer: Why?
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(BACKGROUNb COI ENT MAbE OP THE PUBLic RECORD),
Mt, Jennings.: .., hecause if you look. at what other stadiumk have done
Moat concessionaires. look for long -tetra agreements.. Their ate willing to
coMe in...
Mr. Plummer:
to us,
do we, We look for long-term, and he wouldn't give it
Mr, Jennings: No, I'm talking about concessionaire:,..
Mr. Plummer: He gave us 10. years with a three year out, We wanted a
long --term and he wouldn't go for it.
Mr. Jennings: ... but I'm not talking about rental agreements, I'm talking
about concession agreements.
Mr. Plummer: I'm talking about the Orange Bowl and operation thereof, which
you're in charge of. We wanted a long-term agreement with him.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Plummer since you voted,as I recall against the
motion and since the maker of the motion is saying that this is the motion
that he made and I'm perfectly willing to go along with Father Gibson, and
so he stands on this motion.
Rev. Gibson: See, Mr. Mayor, I thought that we were cutting off any attempt
on the part of the guy to go look for another stadium. Now, when you get
him in that position.
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Rev. Gibson: Well, look, if you didn't make an offer, the lawyer told us
where we were, you know, I didn't agree with the lawyer, but...you know
what you told me when I came ... you said to me, that that's the man who
tells us what the law is.
Mayor Ferre: Look, it's not going to pass anyway, so why don't we call...
call the motion on this...
Rev. Gibson: Yes, let's go ahead and the guy ....
Mayor Ferre: I second it for the purposes of putting it to a vote.
Father Gibson moved it. I second it. Reboso is chairing the...
Mr. Ongie: On this resolution Mr. Mayor?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Yes. I second the motion. Reboso calls the question.
Mr. Reboso: Ok, we have a motion and a second. Call the question, please.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was introduced by
Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson and seconded by Mayor Ferre
and defeated by the following vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre
NOES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, and Vice Mayor Reboso.
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Ok, now we're back to ground zero, Now what do you want to
do at this point?
Mr. 'l.ummer: Thank God,
Mayor Ferre; Hearing no other things to come up before the C04mission on
this we go on to something else, because I'p not going to waste anymore
time on it, Anything else?
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Law firm of -
MC CRARY, BERKOWITZ, DAVIS
Professional services in
56, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT preparation of City.'s
Anti -Prostitution Ordinance
Mayor Petra: Alright. Now, we have a resolution authorizing payment in the
aMount of $4,000 to the law firm of Mc Crary, Berkowitz & Davis. Father
Gibson moves.
Mrs. Gordon: Second,
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Rose Gordon. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-480
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT
OF $4,000 TO THE LAW FIRM OF MC CRARY, BERKOWITZ
& DAVIS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RENDERED IN THE
PREPARATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI'S ANTI -PROSTITUTION
ORDINANCE, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREFOR FROM THE
CONTINGENT FUND, WHEN AVAILABLE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
*Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion, I wish to state that whether or not that
constitutional law which was drawn by them has been tested or not in court,
I want to tell you that the Boulevard has cleaned up 100%. So it's having
an effect whether or not it's tested or not.
Mayor Ferre: Well, it's worth $4,000, he votes yes. Keep going.
57. AUTHORIZE CITY
MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AGREEMENT:
EDWARD NODARSE
Administrative Assistant
to be assigned to
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Ferre: Take up item #157. Ed Nodarse is going to be the Administrative
Assistant to Commissioner Rose Gordon. She moves it. It is seconded by
Gibson. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who
moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 78-481
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT WITH Mr. EDWARD NODARSE PROVIDING FOR THE
SAID MR. NODARSE TO ACT IN THE CAPACITY OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI, ASSIGNED TO THE OFFICE OF
COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON, AT AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $1.00.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here efid oft
file itt the Office of the City tlerk)k
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Revs) Gibson, the fea.olt,tioft
was passed and adopted by the following voter
AYES: Cotttiiiss.ioner Rose Gordon
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Cofninissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
58. PREPARED
RESOLUTION:
Accept City Manager's Proposed Agmts.-
SALE OF BEER IN ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
SCALED DOWN SCOREBOARD SYSTEM with
Present Concessionaire with conditions
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Plummer moves that previous resolution moved by
Father Gibson with the deletion of 86 and the substitution of 1980 therein
Mr. Plummer: No, no, let Reboso move it.
Mayor Ferre: Reboso moves it. Gibson seconds. Further discussion.
Mr. Reboso: I move it.
Mayor Ferre: Do you understand what we're doing now?
Mrs. Gordon: No.
Mayor Ferre: We're changing 86 and putting 80,in and it's the same motion.
Mr. Plummer: Then it would run concurrence with the concession lease, not
the football.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-482
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING AND APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER"S
ATTACHED PROPOSED AGREEMENTS FOR THE SALE OF BEER AT THE
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM AND A SCALED —DOWN SCOREBOARD SYSTEM,
WHICH PROVIDES FOR AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PRESENT STADIUM
CONCESSIONAIRE FOR A PERIOD ENDING WITH THE TERMINATION
DATE OF THE EXISTING CONCESSION AGREEMENT, JULY 1, 1980,
AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PRESENT THE AFORESAID
AGREEMENTS TO THE MIAMI DOLPHINS, LTD., WITH THE PROVISION
THAT THE MIAMI DOLPHINS, LTD., RELINQUISH THE 3-YEAR ESCAPE
CLAUSE CONTAINED IN THE PRESENT STADIUM LEASE AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE MIAMI DOLPHINS, LTD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES; Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mrs. Gordon, and Mr. Plummer
ABSENT: None.
11.4 JUL 131978
Mayor Perre: Alright, whateig.e have you got?
Mr, Plummet: So now let the understand that hag passed,
Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir.
Mt. Plummer: Ok. And, that is his proposition,,. three seasons, tight?
Mayor Ferret No, to.
Mr. Plummet: Two seasons.
Rev. Gibson: Let me make... Plummer, what we're saying is that he trust give
up his 3-year on the football.
Mr. Plummer: Escape on the football to give the 3-years of beer.
Rev. Gibson: Right.
Mr. Plummer: And that would run concurrent with the present food concession.
Rev. Gibson: Right, right.
Mr. Plummer: What it in fact says,Father,is that in 1980, the food, beverage,
all can be put out as a total package together.
Rev. Gibson: I get you, yes.
59. ACCEPT BID - CONFISCATED RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS
Police Department
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, on item 38 I move it on the recommendation of the
Police Chief.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, take up item #38. It's moved by Plummer. Seconded by
Gibson. Further discussion. Call the roll on item 38.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-483
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF SARCO, INC. FOR
THE SALE OF 205 CONFISCATED RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE FOR A TOTAL PRICE OF
$6,266.00.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES:
ABSENT: None.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
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JUL 131978
Mayor l'ette Is there anything else to come up before the Commission?
We have,Mrs, Albo, is, she. here? I saw her here,, Qh, here she is, ok,
Mt, Reboso; Mr, Mayor; 1 wantt to make clear that this will run 'utjtil the
present concession,
Mayor Ferret 1980.
Mr. Reboso: 1980, tut 1 don't know if it includes the football season of
1980 or not.
Mr. Jennings: No, it doesn't.
Mr. Reboso: 1 think it's April 15, 1980, and here,it says,with the last
game of the regular football season of the year 1980.
Mayor Ferre: Change it to say,,.
Mr. Grassie: It's through June of 1980,apparently.
Mr. Reboso: I would like to say with the concurrence ....
Mayor Ferre: With the present food concession
Mr. Reboso: That's right, the regular food concession.
Mr. Ongie: The end of the current food concession.
Mr. Reboso: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: Make the amendment accordingly. The maker of the motion who
is Father Gibson concurs. Reboso, the seconder concursand that's what it
is in a majority now.
Rev. Gibson: That is they must give up that 3-year escape clause on the
football contract.
60. Extend funding 1 additional month - ACCION
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, since this is something of your interest Mr. Blanco
and Mrs. Albo are back with the same problem that we've dealt with for the
last four months. Mr. Blanco, you want to make your statement?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, is this just... if it's the usually formality of extending
for,until September 1, I do so, I move. Additionally funding.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion that the program be funded through September
1st.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Gibson. Further discussion. We're talking now about
Accion Program.
Mr. Blanco: Yes, we already total among the 70, I mean 56,730, right?
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's don't misunderstand each other,Blanco, 1/12 more
funding will cover you for the month of August.
Mayor Ferre Same as last year.
Mr. Blanco: The only problem that we have is that it stated 1/2 of what?
Mr. Plummer: 1/12 of your annual appropriation,
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Mt, Blanco: :Which. one is it?
Mr. Plumer: Which is what we granted Ili the approprtiationa ordinance,
Mayor Ferre:
The same thing that you got last month,
Mr, Plummer: The same that you've been receiving every :Month that I have
extended,
Mr, Blanco: Mr. Plummer, the point is that we were using our Community
Development funding and the Community Development funding has run out
according with our budget, the way that we prepare our budget. Now, these
last three months that we have, we have to cover all the expenses through
Federal Revenue Sharing. This is the way...
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, you should have said somethint; to me about
this before the meeting. I don't.., how much more are you talking about?
Mr. Blanco: I was so busy preparing the next fiscal year budget.
Mr. Plummer: Well, what are talking about, how many dollars?
Mr. Blanco: Well, what we're talking is according with our figures will be,
maybe we can save three or four thousand dollars out of the 56 so it will
be a total of 53 or 54.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me just be, let's put it right up on top of the table.
On top of the table says that I tried to get you an additional $30,000,
correct?
Mr. Blanco: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And, we have been giving you that at the rate of 1/12 a month.
Mr. Blanco: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir?
Mr. Blanco: No, sir, so far we have spent from the Federal Revenue Sharing
only $32,000 this fiscal year.
Mr. Plummer: Well, can you let this ride until the first of September and
in that interim or between now and the next meeting, let me know exactly
what you're talking about since I have not had the privilege of talking
about it?
Mr. Blanco: I'll try.
Mr. Plummer: I mean, I'm sorry, you're catching me completely off guard.
Mayor Ferre: Well, here's the way to do that it seems to me. Let's pass
the motion on the regular and then on whatever is extra you talk in the meantime.
!Ix.. Plummer: Alright, I'll talk it out with them.
Mr. Grassie: Is it too much to ask for these people to talk with somebody
in the Administration so that we can give you a little information?
Mr. Plummer: I see nothing wrong with that at all.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's your job. You mean to tell me that you don't
talk to these people at all?
Mr. Grassie; They don't talk to us, no.
Mayor Ferre: You won't talk to the Administration?
Mr. Blanco: I do believe that if they wanted to see me I would be willing to
talk with them and get this matter over,
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Mayor Ferret You have any ptoblehs. ...?
Mrs Grassier The point is Mt. Mayor, you know, thepoint is if they don't
bring up this problem ahead of time until they come here itt front of the
City Cotitmission at the last minute on your agenda ...
Mr. Reboso: Blanco, you have to bring the problem up to the Managet, the
Manager doesn't have to call you, you have to call him.
Mr. Blanco: The Manager understands that the person in charge is Mr. harkih S
and I can't get together with Mr. Parkins. I mean, I can't go down there
bothering the Manager when he's got,a person in charge of this.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, let me suggest Mr. Mayor, that we pass a motion today
approving the 1/12 as we have in the past, and if, before the next meeting
these people will meet with the Administration and as a personal favor to
me so that we can intelligently discuss the further funding on the 27th.
Mayor Ferre: Is Mr. Parkins back from his vacation.
Mr. Grassie: No, he's not, but Mr. Bond who is. in charge of that area,
is sitting right here.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Bond, would you call him and tell .him to come over and
clear this thing up with you or whoever it is that does. this,?
Mr. Blanco: Anytime that he is we are willing too.
Mr. Bond: I'm available right after you leave here.
Mayor Ferre: That's what I like to hear. Right after, right now.
Mr. Plummer: That's pretty definite time.
Mr. Bond: Thank you, s.ir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there's a motion made by Plummer. Seconded by
Gibson. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption;
MOTION NO. 78-484
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXTEND THE
FUNDING FOR ACCION COMMUNITY CENTER, INC. AT THE
PRESENT LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONTH..
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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JUL 13 1978
61, INCLUDE SALE
SURPLUS EQUIPMENT:
3-SURPLUS GARBAGE TRUCKS
to be offered for sale
SISTER CITY PROGRAM
Mayor Ferre: We have these .threetrucks, garbage packers that are
Plummer, you haven't taken those to Colombia have you?
Mr. Plummer: No,sir,
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Gibson seconds, Further discussion. Call the
roll. These are three garbage trucks for Lima. .
Mt. Plummer: Is that included in the ones we passed for the statute?
Mayor Ferre: No, these are new ones.
Mr. Grassie: Are you adding those to Lima, Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: You are, oh, now, wait a minute, then possibly they are
committed,Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Grimm: I hope you'd let us know because we may have soid them aireduy.
Mr. Plummer: Possibly they are. I don't know. I laid off the ones that you
had commitments on.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-485
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INCLUDE THREE SURPLUS GARBAGE TRUCKS AS SURPLUS
EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE FOR POSSIBLE SALE TO LIMA, PERU
UNDER THE SISTER CITIES PROGRAM, PROVIDING SAID
EQUIPMENT IS STILL AVAILABLE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mr. Grassie: Now, does this follow the regular City Commission policy?
Mayor Ferro: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Which means that Lima is going to pay for this.
Mayor Ferre; Yes, it has to be that way,
Mr. Plummer: Just like Colombia.
119 Jul, 131978
62. BRItt' btSCUSStON ITEM: ELIZABETH VIRRICK'S
Anniversary- Coconut Grove
Mayor Ferrel Wait a motnent, the day we tentatively talked about was
Elizabeth Virrick's 25th Anniversary of Coconut Grove Cares,in October
sometime,
Mr. Grassie: On the date that you had asked me about Mayor, there is a
boat show there, so I think you wanted to do it some day other than that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you make it October 12th, ...
Mr. Plummer: I can't Maurice, that's my class reunion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, then I'll tell you what,combine it somehow, somewhere
along the line with Elizabeth Virrick's 25th Anniversary.
Mr. Grimm: Mr. Mayor, her 25th anniversary happened in May.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we'll celebrate it in October.
Mr. Grimm: So pick a date that you want.
Mr. Reboso: The first City Commission meeting in October, let's do it
lunch time .
Mayor Ferre: That's fine. You don't need any resolution on that.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I go back to Item 33, since it involves my
dollars and cents?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
at
Mr. Plummer: In reference to the motorcycle escorts for the Police
Department let's understand on the record ... Mr. City Attorney, on item
33, Motorcycle Escorts for funerals, do I abstain from voting?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Rev. Gibson: We've already done that.
Mayor Ferre: You abstained from voting.
Mr. Plummer: Does that mean that I have to fill out the form?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, on the record, Mr. Mayor,it is agreed between the
Manager and I,or the Manager, that this billing shall be done to the funeral
homes on a monthly basis with the funeral homes establishing a deposit set
by the Manager.
Mayor Ferre: Hey, what is it this, you're abstaining from this, what are
you talking about?
Mr. Plummer: I'm worried about you people making me write out 87 checks a
month,
Mayor Ferre: You take that up... Is there anything else. Mr. Grassie,
please, is there anything else?
Mr, Grassie: No,sir,
120
JUL 1^1978
Mayot Vette
Mt. Gtassie:
Mayor Vette:
Fir. Grassie :
Mayor Fette:
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
Mrs. Gordon:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr.. City Attotney, is there anything . 1se.
Except of course., for the meeting at 5:304
What?
Your meeting at 5:10 with the elected officials.
Plummer, ate you finished?
Yes, sir:
Anybody else have any other items.
I move we adjourn.
There's a motion to adjourn. We stand adjourned.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Commission,
on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 5:25 P.M.
ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
City Clerk
MATTY HIRAI
Assistant City Clerk
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
121 JUL 1 1978
ITEM NO.
10
11
12
13
CITY OF Mi
DOCU
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL BUILDING
PERMIT TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF THE CARDIOLOGY LEARN-
ING CENTER AND STIMULATION LABORATORY NORTHWEST OF
THE INTERSECTION OF NORTHWEST 14TH TERRACE AND HIGHLAND
ROAD.
APPROVING THE STATION GROUP FIVE RAPID TRANSIT STATIONS
AS APPROVED BY THE CITIZENS' COMMITTEE IN MILESTONE
E. PUBLIC HEARINGS,.
URGING THE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION TO PROVIDE FOR JOINT
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN
RAPID TRANSIT STATION SITES AND STATION AREAS.
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY THE LOWELL-
DUNN COMPANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $57,467,50
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY P.N.M.
CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $33,532,25 FOR THE
BUENA VISTA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT -PHASE
II (BID"B"-DRAINAGE)
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY D.M.P. CORP-
ORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $32,694.50 FOR THE SOUTH
GROVE BICYCLE PATH MODIFICATION
ACCEPTING FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES A DEED OF DEDICATION
FROM 5300 BAR AND PACKAGE, INC.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF
CONDEMNATION A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE COMPRISED OF
1,260 SQ. FT. ON A LOT 00' X 50' LOCATED AT 1115 SOUTH-
WEST SECOND AVENUE
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF
CONDEMNATION A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND ONE VACANT
LOT COMPRISED OF 12,000 SQ. FT. OF LAND AREA AND 1370
SQ. FT. BUILDING AREA, LOCATED AT 1131 SOUTHWEST
SECOND AVENUE.
DECLARING THE FREEDOM TOWER TO BE A CITY OF MIAMI
HISTORIC LANDMARK AND STATING THE INTENT OF THE COM-
MISSION THAT NO CITY FUNDED OR CITY PERMITEED ACTIVITY
WHICH WOULD ALTER OR DEMOLISH THE FREEDOM TOWER BE
UNDERTAKEN.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACKED
AGREEMENT WITH MERCY HOSPITAL, INC.
GRANTING USE OF THE MIANI BASEBALL STADIUM BY MIAMI
DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DC1WN'IC N CAMPUS
MEETING DATE:
COMMISSION
ACTION
R-78-447
R-78-452
R-78-453
R-78-454
R-78-455
R-78-456
R-78-457
R-78-458
R-78-459
R-78-461
R-78-462
RETRIEVAL
CODE NO.
0063
78-447
78-452
78-453
78-454
78-455
78-456
78-457
78-458
78-459
0064
78-461
78-462
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE DONATION
OF 36 GOLF TEE CONSOLE UNITS FOR CITY-C NED GOLF
COURSES FORM NATIONAL GOLF MEDIA, INC.
WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE USE OF THE LITTLE
HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER ON NOVEMBER 19, 1978 FOR THE
PRESENTATION OF A LATIN CARIETY S-IUW ENTITLED "TRADE DE
ESTRELLAS" .
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO REQUIRE THAT THE TEN-
ANTS OF DINNER KEY MARINA PIER 5 VACATE THEIR BERTHS
FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING OCTOBER 19, 1978
SEirING A TEE OF $5 PER ESCORT MOTORCYCLE TO BE CHARGED
ANY PARTY WHO REQUESTS AND IS PROVIDED WITH A MIAMI
POLICE DEPARTMENT FUNERAL MOTORCYCLE ESCORT.
RATIFYING AND APPROVING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF EM-
PLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF 70 FOR VIRGINIA LIEBERMAN,
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A WASTE COTTFCTION LICENSE
TO CORBAR'S TRUCKING & TRASH HAULING, INC.
FINDING AND DETERMINING THE PUBLIC NEED AND NECESSITY
FOR ACQUIRING THE FEL SIMPLE TITLE TO CERTAIN PROPERTY
DESCRIBED HEREIN TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC PARK AND RECRE-
ATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE COCONUT GROVE MINI -PARK
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO MARIA
C. VIDAL AND BART C. VIDAL WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF
LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $20,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE
SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF JONES EQUIPMENT CO. FOR FURNISH-
ING 221 HAND GUNS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE
ACCEPTING THE BID OF AMERICAN WOOD PRODUCTS FOR
FURNISHING 1,000 CUBIC YARDS OF CYPRESS MULCH FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF BETTER CONSTRUCTION, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF T & N CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $349,855 FOR COCONUT GROVE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF T & N CONSTRUCTION CO. IN THE
PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $154,729 FOR CUL ER COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT -PHASE 11-1978
ACCEPTING THE BID FROM UNITED NATIONAL CO., THROUGH
ITS LOCAL AGENT CHALLENGE INSURANCE, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF MELROSE NURSERY, INC. IN THE
PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $118,575 FOR CITY WIDE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT TREE PLANTING.
ACCEEerING THE BID OF DELTA PAINTING CORPORATION IN
THE AMOUNT OF $19,950.00
cOWI SSIaN
401A..
R-78-463
R-78-464
R-78-465
R-78-466
R-78-467
R-78-468
R-78-469
R-78-470
R-78-471
R-78-472
R-78-473
R-78-474
R-78-475
R-78-476
R-78-477
R-78-478
RETRIEVAL
CODE 40.
78-463
78-464
78-465
78-466
78-467
78-468
78-469
78-470
78-471
78-472
78-473
78-474
78-475
78-476
78-477
78-478
TEM NO.
30
31
32
33
34
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
WAIVING THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE USE OF THE CITY OF
rIIAMI' S SHG MOBILE ON JULY 29, 1978
AUTHORIZING PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO THE LAW
FIRM OF McCRARY, BERKOWITZ & DAVIS FOR PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES RENDERED IN 'IHE PREPARATION OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI'S ANTI -PROSTITUTION ORDINANCE.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMEgT
WITH MR. EDWARD NODARSE PROVIDING FORME SAID MR.
NODARSE TO ACT IN THE CAPACITY OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT FOR THE CITY OF MIAML
ACCEPTING THE CITY MANAGER'S ATTACHED PROPOSED AGREE-
MENTS FOR THE SALE OF BEER AT THE ORANGE BOIL STADIUM
ACCEPTING THE BID OF SARCO, INC. FOR THE SALE OF
205 CONFISCATED RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF POLICE FORA TOTAL PRICE OF $6,266.60
Co}1MI SS I ON
R-78-479
R-78-480
R-78-481
R-78-482
R-78-483
78-479
78-480
78-481
78-482
78-483
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