HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1978-09-14 MinutesCITY OF MIAMI
COMMISSION
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OF MEETING HELD ON September 14 , 1978
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
RALPH G. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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SUBJECT
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 13, 27, 28 & AUGUST 1
DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO FIND FUNDS FOR PURCHASE OF
4-CHANNEL RECORDING EQUIPMENT FOR OFFICE OF CITY CLERK.
FILM PRESENTATION BY INTER -GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS OFFICE -
PROMOTION OF SOUTHERN BELL FRANCHISE.
STATUS REPORT ON MARINA DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS -
FINANCIAL REPORT ON MARINA TRUST PROPOSAL.
DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO FUND INCREASED BENEFITS TO
RETIREES.
STATUS REPORT OF EDUCATIONAL COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT IN
DOWNTOWN AREA.
"NEW TOWN - IN TOWN", REPROGRAMMING $200,000 (FOURTH
YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS); AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT
WITH DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR HIRING OF
PLANNING CONSULTANT.
7, GRANT ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE - LOTS 1 & 4, BLOC
7; MIRAMAR 3RD AMENDED (5-4), 1866 N. BAYSHORE DRIVE.
8. APPOINT COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON CITY OF MIAMI DELEGATE
TO VOTE AT 52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF CITIES.
RESCHEDULE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER
26, 1978 TO OCTOBER 24, 1978.
10. RECOMMEND APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON TO
THE PUBLIC SERVICE COM*1ISSION.
DISCUSSION OF 2ND MEETING DATE IN NOVEMBER-DEFERRED.
12 I ABOLISH CHARTER REVIEW BOARD & CREATE A CHARTER
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
13. ENCOURAGE INVOLVEMENT AND COOPERATION IN THE DEVELOPMENT
OF ECONOMIC POLICIES AND STRATEGIES.
14. APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR OLDEN
JAMES, DEPT. OP SOLID WASTE.
15. AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH MCDONNELL DOUGLAS AUTOMATION
COMPANY TO IMPLEMENT WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION AND
LIABILITY SYSTEM, ALLOCATE $30,000 FROM INSURANCE FUND.
16. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH DADE HERITAGE TRUST INC. & AGREEMENT FOR THE
RELOCATION, ANCHORING & REPAIR OF WAGNER HOMESTEAD
PROPERTY, ALLOCATE $40,000 FROM 3RD YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.
17. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH
SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM & SENIOR
AIDES PROGRAM OF DADE COUNTY.
18. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE HIGHLAND PARK
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROPERTY AT A PRICE OF $100,000;
ALLOCATE $40,000 FROM 4TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FUNDS FOR DEMOLITION $ REMOVAL OF EXISTING BUILDINGS.
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CLAIM SETTLEMENT - LORENZO COLLI AND DIANA COLLI,
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RESOLUTION
M- 78-540
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
M- 78-541
DISCUSSION
R- 78-542
R- 78-543
R- 78-544
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R- 78-546
DISCUSSION
R- 78-547
R- 78-548
R- 78-549
Deferral
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R- 78-551
M- 78-552
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ORDINANCE OR
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CLAIM SETTLEMENT - SALOMON CASTILLO & ISABEL CASTILLO.
RATIFY ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN ACCEPTING BID &
AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF SEVEN AUTOMOBILES FOR DEPT.
OF POLICE JUVENILE OFFENDER DIVERSIONARY PROJ.
PROPOSED BID ACCEPTANCE - ANDY FRAIN OF FLORIDA, FOR
SECURITY PERSONNEL AT THE ORANGE BOWL -DEFERRED.
RECEIVE SEALED BIDS - COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4408 (SECOND BIDDING).
PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF MRS. ANNETTE EISENBERG RE: LITTLE
RIVEP. COMMERCE ASSOCIATION'S "OKTOBERFEST", DIRECT CITY
MANAGER TO FIND FUNDING NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 AS
CONTRIBUTION.
PERSONAL APPEANCE OF MRS, ANNETTE EISENBERG REGARDING
PROBLEM OF GARBAGE IN THE LITTLE RIVER AREA.
PROCLAMATION HONORING THE SIXTH ANNUAL HISPANIC WEEK
CELEBRATION, OCT. 6 - 15; DIRECT MANAGER TO PROVIDE
ASSISTANCE AND IN -KIND SERVICES.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: JACK LIEBERMAN IN CONNECTION WITH
LEO HARRIS' CASE.
ENACT NEW SECTION 39-6 OF THE CODE, "CHARGES AND
PROCEDURES FOR USE OF MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AND DINNER
KEY RECREATION CENTER/EXHIBITION HALL.
AMEND CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE, MIAMI CITY GENERAL
EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLAN - LABORER, WATCHMAN OR
CUSTODIAL WORKERS PAYBACK.
AMEND SECTIONS 54-36, 54-37, 54-39 & 54-41 OF THE CODE
REGULATING THE PLACEMENT OF BUS BENCHES AND/OR BUS
SHELTER STRUCTURES.
FIRST READING - MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979.
FIRST READING - DEFINING & DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL
LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TAXATION; FIXING THE MILLAGE RATE.
FIRST READING - APPROVING EXPENDITURES REQUIRED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING FOR GUSMAN HALL AND
THE OLYMPIA BUILDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 78-79.
AMEND SECTION 2-9 OF THE CODE "ORDER OF BUSINESS AND
RULES OF PROCEDURE".
AMEND SECTION 1 OF 8716, THE ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY MAKING ADJUSTMENTS IN THE
1970 HIGHWAY GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND AND STORM
SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND.
AMEND SECTION 39-13.1 OF THE CODE - REVISING THE FEES
AT THE CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSES.
AMEND 39-5(1)(A) OF THE CODE BY REVISING FEES FOR USE
OF MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOLS.
R- 78-554
R- 78-555
DISCUSSION
M- 78-556
PRESENTATIONS
M- 78-557
DISCUSSION
M- 78-558
DISCUSSION
Ord. 8841
Ord. 8842
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AMEND SECTION 39-16.1 OF THE CODE - REVISING FEES FOR
CHILD DAY CARE PROGRAM - REFERRED BACK TO DEPARTMENT
FOR FURTHER STUDY.
AMEND 8731, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE TO
PROVIDE $35,000 FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMMING SERVICES;
$25,000 FOR PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PUBLIC ON THE
SOUTHERN BELL FRANCHISE ELECTION; $5,400 COMMISSIONERS'
EXPENSE ALLOWANCE ACCOUNT.
DEFER FILLING VACANCY ON CIVIL SERVICE BOARD UNTIL
SEPTEMBER 28, 1978.
(A). DISCUSSION OF SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL.
(B). DISCUSSION OF COMMENTS MADE BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPT. OF HUMAN RESOURCES AS QUOTED IN A NATIONAL
MAGAZINE.
BID ACCEPTANCE - PICNIC TABLES & EQUIPMENT.
BID ACCEPTANCE - MMPD COMPUTER ROOM AIR CONDITIONING
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BID ACCEPTANCE - SITE WORK AT CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY
OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER PROJECT.
AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE TO
COUNTY WASTE, INC; NORTH DADE SANITATION SERVICE, INC.;
RAFAEL & ROBERTO TRASH SERVICE, INC.
ACCEPT DEED OF DEDICATION FROM BLANCA NUNEZ, BLOCK 2,
OCOEE PARK (2-100).
STREET CLOSING - GREAT COCONUT GROVE BICYCLE RACE TRIAL
OCTOBER 4, 5, 6, AND 8, 1978.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - ADMINISTRATION BUILDING -
FOUNDATION WORK (REVISED).
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LEGION MEMORIAL PARK - BOAT
RAMP AND PARKING.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LEMON CITY PARK - COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BUILDING DEMOLITION.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - CONVENTION CENTER - BUILDING
DEMOLITION - PHASE II (PATRICIA HOTEL).
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - WAINWRIGHT PARK IMPROVEMENTS
PHASE II.
ACCEPT COMPLETED - MODEL CITIES C. D. STREET
IMPROVEMENTS PHASE III (BID "B" DRAINAGE).
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - MODEL CITIES C. D. STREET
IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II, BID "C" LANDSCAPING.
BID ACCEPTANCE - JETCOAT EMULSIONS COMPANY FOR
EMULSIFIED ASPHALT.
BID ACCEPTANCE - TWO 15 PASSENGER VANS FOR THE DEFT.
OF FIRE - SENIOR CITIZENS FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS
PROGRAM.
QRDINANCE 0
K SOLUTION NO
M- 78-559
Ord. 8845
M- 78-560
DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION
R- 78-561`
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R- 78-563
R- 78-564
R- 78-565
R- 78-566
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58. PERSONAL APPEARANCE BY MEMBERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL
FOLK FESTIVAL TO DISCUSS PLANS/FUNDING FOR THE 1979
FESTIVAL - DEFERRED.
59. REQUEST MODIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING
THE DADE COUNTY CODE ENTITLED "FIXED GUIDEWAY RAISED
TRANSIT SYSTEM - DEVELOPMENT ZONE".
60. APPOINT OFELIA SHERMAN TO THE ECOLOGY AND BEAUTIFICATIOP
COMMITTEE.
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MtNt1TEg Off' REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
Oft the 14 day of September, 1978, the City Commission of Miafni,
Florida, met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan
American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:10 A.M., by Mayor Ferre with
the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
PRESENT WERE:
Joseph R. Grassie, City Manager
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Manager
George F. Knox, City Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who then led those
present in a pledge of allegience to the flag.
A motion to waive the reading of the minutes was introduced and
secoi:3a awl was passed unanimously.
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1. APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 13, 27, 28 & AUGUST 1
DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO FIND FUNDS FOR PURCHASE OF
4-CHANNEL RECORDING EQUIPMENT FOR OFFICE OF CITY CLERK.
Mayor Ferre: Good morning ladies and gentleman, we are here on a Regular
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'diskCity of Miami Commission Meeting. Which he is therst lasttsettoftcomes minutesbthateweshave, Mr.
the reading of the
City Clerk?
Mr. Ong;e: We are now up to date, Mr. Mayor. It would be in order to approve
the minutes of July 13, July 27, July 28 and August 1.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there such a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to make the motion to approve,...
Mr. Plummer: ... but I want to make another motion immediately following.
Reboso: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second, further discussion
on approval of the minutes?
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was introduced by
Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Reboso and passed by a unanimous vote.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I had the opportunity during the August recess in
which to me, some very critical minutes
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t4ifh the Clerk's Office at all, In the difference between that was which was
given to us as verbatim minutes and I knew there was something in there that I
had said, but yet I couldn't find and then when I went to the tapes and pull
the tapes, I found exactly what I was looking for. I can appreciate without
any questions, after being deeply involved, that equipment is desperately
needed in the Clerk's Office. He has shown to me a proposed system in which
they can isolate these microphones for the individual Commissioners and hopefully
it will void about 99% of that which we see in the minutes as "inaudible"...
What's the expression?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: "Inaudible" or otherwise known in Washington as blank, blank,
blank, blank. Mr. Mayor, he has proposed in a cost factor to this Commission,
what it is that is needed. Mr. Clerk, can you give me the bottom line? The
cost involved is how much?
Mr. Ongie: The immediate cost would be $8,500.
Mayor Ferre: How much?
Mr. Ongie: $8,500.
Mr. Plummer: I move, Mr. Mayor, that that amount
this equipment be immediately ordered.
Mrs. Gordon: I'll second it.
Mr. Plummer: Or I'll even do it the other way, that the equipment be ordered
and the money be found. I think it's that necessary to this Commission, so
I move it.
Mrs. Gordon: I second,
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second,...
Mr. Grassie: By way of dicussion, Mr, Mayor, This item was on the Clerk's
list of things that he wanted to acquire, equipment of.,, it was one of the
things that was cut out so that he could make the same kind of budget reductions
that everybody else made. This would be then, something that I would suggest
to you, you consider when you review his budget along with everybody else's.
Mrs. Gordon: There is an item that we are going to be talking about later
and when that comes up, I think you will find that there is a surplus in
that item more than offset, but I think it's a vital addition to the Clerk's
Office and not comparable with any of the other items that we would be discussing
relative to that)in that area.
Mayor Ferre: Would this come out of the general fund or out of the capital?
Mr. Grassie: Out of the general funds. And I would suggest that the second
item on your agenda includes a demand for money which is not covered by any
item that you might find later on. You know, what I'm saying is that we've...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I understand.
Mr. Grassie: ... got costs that we want to cover and we just simply don't
have money.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., I don't... you know, I always vote with you on all these'.
things and you are right 95% of the time, but...
Mr. Plummer: You are saying this is the 5%?
Mayor Ferre: No, I'm not saying this is the 5%, I think you are right and
my problem is a matter... a philosophical problem. Looking at a budget,
that right now we know is two million dollars short and we are going to
be turning an awful lot of people down on an awful lot of things. There
is no regard that budget proposal for any kind of salary increases for
the employees. We also know that up in Congress the Humphrey Hawkins and
the other countercyclical bills have been floundering around. The House bill
WAS killed by Rtepresentative Flood! the Senate ball cuts us dawn a million
and six hundred thousand dgllai;ss that's going to be a verx0 yety strange
situation, I just can't in all good conscience and as much as we need to hale
good microphone and audio equipment at this time, take that into.,. you know,
I just can't go with it. I think you are right, but I'm just..,
Mr. Plummer: Defeating me would be like buying a fire truck without providing
the hose which is most essential.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but this isn't a fire truck and this,,.
Mr, Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I'm going to tell you,
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ok,
Mr. Plummer: I as a Commissioner, feeling and voting as one, feel that it is-
most necessary that we have good minutes, because as you know, I go to them
all the time and refer to them all the time.
Mayor Ferre: Alright,.,,
Mr.. Plummer: And I can only do it
that everything is there on paper.
Mayor Ferre: I've got no problem, let's call the vote on it.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
in such cases
MOTION NO, 78-540
where
I feel comfortable
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO FIND FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8,500 FOR
EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 4-CHANNEL RECORDING EQUIPMENT
FOR THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK,
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Reboso,
NOES: Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT:
2. FILM PRESENTATION BY INTER -GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
OFFICE - PROMOTION OF SOUTHERN BELL FRANCHISE.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's go on to item A, which is the status report on
the Marina Development negotiations and financial report on Marina Trust
Proposal. Mr. Manager?
Mr. Grassie: Mr, Mayor and Members of the City Commission, I wonder if we
could take, I believe, about seven minutes of your time before we get into
the Marina discussion, in order to acquaint you with the visual material
which has been prepared by Clark Merrill and some consultants that he is
working with, in regard to the Bell Franchise vote, I would like to have
them speak to it very briefly and then show it to you.
Mr. Merrill: Mr, Mayor and Commissioners, the presentation that we are
going to show you now, was prepared by Star Productions in a very short
period of time and it's intended to explain to the electorate, the issues
that are involved on the Thursday, October 5, second primary ballot regarding
the Southern Bell Telephone Franchise election. And at this time I would
like to have them show the presentation.
(THE PRESENTATION WAS SHOWN AT THIS TIME),
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Maydt Pete: Well, 1 think it's vet'y goods 1 hope enough people get to aee
it,
Mr. Plummet: Well, how do you propose for the people to see it?
Mr. Merrill: Well, we have.., we are making contacts now with civic
organizations, service organizations, and public groups within the City of
Miami. We've got some shows setup and we are in the process of setting othe
up and we would be interested in any suggestions that you may have, to seek
more groups in which to show this to. We will be out between now and the
election showing this to whoever we can set it up with.
Mr. Fosmoen: We are also trying to get on some of the TV talk shows.
Mr, Merrill:
Yes,..,
Mayor Ferre: No, that's too long for that, I'm sure they...
Mr. Merrill: But, we can take parts in it. You know, if we get
about a budget...
Clark, you know if 30,000 voters are Spanish
Mayor Ferre:
oriented.
Mr. Merrill: No, we have one in Spanish.
Mr. Merrill: Yes, we have a copy and we showed them both last night]
Aliapattah CD group,..
Mayor Ferre: Fine.
Mr. Merrill: .., and it was done very well. We can show either way.
Mayor Ferre: Was the reception good?, the reaction?
Mr. Merrill:
they tell me
Mayor Ferre:
Yes, it was... some people there were opposed, but I guess...
they are opposed to everything.
Yes, ok. Any questions.
Mr. Fosmoen: One other comment for the Commission's information. We are
doing a city-wide mail out also, that will be out about a week before the
election time...
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Merrill:
Mayor Ferre:
Make should you don't violate the law.
You know, me.
Ok,
Mr. Plummer: Well, I personally would like to see a copy of that mail out
before it goes out, rather than have something...
Mr. Merrill: Alright, surely.
Mr. Plummer: So, I would like to see a copy of that before it goes out,
Mayor Ferre: Ok, well send it to all the members of the Commission and do
it in such away that... What, is two days enough for reaction? 0r twenty-
four hours?
Mr. Merrill: It's going to have to be fast.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, otherwise we won't get it out,
Mr. Merrill; I suspect by Monday we will need to have it.
Mayor Ferre: Well, when can you have the finished draft?
Min
Mr: Merrill. I hope to have it by Mondays
Mayor Ferre: Well, then let's say that... and make sure that you record
exactly when you leave it in somebody's office and let's say that within
twenty-four hours after that,you have not heard any complaints, will assume
that, that's concurrence. If you have any complaints, then try and get them
cleared up and if you can't, then we will have to deal with that.
Mr. Merrill: Alright,
Mayor Ferre: Ok?
Mr. Merrill: Thank you.
3. STATUS REPORT ON MARINA DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS -
FINANCIAL REPORT ON MARINA TRUST PROPOSAL.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Grassie: If you would like then, Mr. Mayor and Members of the City
Commission to move to the first item on your agenda.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Mr. Grassie: This is a status report to keep the City Commission informed
on what is happening on the question of negotiating with two firms for the
management of the two marinas the City has. And also we want to bring you
up to date on two other things. I know that you probably are seeing in your
packet, the outline of committees that we are setting up)following your
suggestions to help the City in carrying forward these projects. Most of
the people on these lists, have already accepted this assignment. We have
a Usage Improvement Review Committee and there is also an Operation's Oversite
Committee which will be concerned with the operations of principly Dinner Key.
There is an Environmental Review Committee which follows the suggestions
of two or three individuals who spoke to you when we first talked about this
question of marinas and then there is a Marina Development Advisory Committee
which has to do with the city-wide overall planning process that you approved
at your last meeting. In addition to that, I should report to you that we
are making good progress with Biscayne Recreation . Now, we have had several
meetings and we have some relatively difficult questions to address, but that's
coming along well. We have made surprisingly even faster progress with New
World Marina, because we haven't met with them as often, but that is somewhat
of a simpler agreement because there is not as much construction involved
and consequently that's coming along quite well. The last thing that I would
like to report to you on, is the question that Commissioner Plummer asked us
to address, and that is to have Hough and Co., the City's financial advisors,
speak to the Marina Trust Proposal as they had the other two private proposals.
You have that report, I believe, in front of you. Mr. Condon is here to
briefly review it with you. I would like for Dick Fosmeon, to remind us all
of what the questions were and then possibly we could ask Mr. Condon to speak
to his report.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fosmeon?
Mr. Fosmeon: Mr, Mayor and Members of the Commission, our understanding
is that the Commission ask basically two questions. The first, can the
Marina Trust do what they were proposing to do and maintain the rates that
the Marina had at the five and ten cents level? The second question is, how
does the Marina Trust stack up when compared on the same basis as the three
private proposals in terms of a return to the City? In other words, all things
being equal, would there be a longer return to the City if there was not a
profit oriented or a profit motivated to the group involved? Mr. Condon,
has addressed both of those issues in reports to us.
Mayor Ferre: Alright,
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Mt. Condon: I'm Ray Condon, William R. Hough and Company and have prepared
the report that you have before you. One of the assignments we had was to
address ourselves to the proposal of a trust being formed to take over the
management of having only certain things to look at and really the very level
where we had the minutes of the meeting on June 22nd. We had the slide
projection presentation to the City Council on the 28th of July and a memo
that was addressed to the City Commission by the City Manager, dated July
25. And then we did have the meeting that was arranged for us to meet Mr.
Iaconis, and Mr. Dixon, to talk about the trust and we did that on the
morning of August 25th. And in the report, we said we wanted to discuss these
three things, the formation of the trust, the expertise of the trust membership
to be formed and the financial aspects as they was furnish to us and we just had
the numbers that you are familiar with from the presentation that the trust
made. We found that the trust has no, of course, been formed...
Mrs. Gordon: Would you speak in the microphone, please, a little better?
Mr. Condon: Sure.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you.
Mr. Condon: Is that better? Thank you. The trust has not been formed nor
fully researched legally and the trust proposers would have to work with their
attorneys to draft a bill which would legally grant powers necessary for their
carrying out the duties of the management contract. This has not been discussed
with the City in much detail sofar as we know. The City Attorney and the
Bond Attorneys would have to study and agree that the contents of the Bill
would adequately protect the City and the security expectations of the bond
holders. We have assumed the City has come to a conclusion and as we recommended
that the cheapest cost of construction would be through the issuance of Tax
Exempt Marine Revenue Bonds issued by the City of Miami. The Bill is acceptable
to al]. parties, it would have to be passed by the State Legislature and we
foresee this entire process as taking about a year. We have no idea what the
entire process would cost, but since the trust obviously have no funds, we are
told that the City would have to finance the cost and we have not discussed
where that money would come from, whether it would be the General Funds,
Marina Revenues that is earned, or whether it would be included in the bond
proceeds. And we have been advised that an interim committee would be form
to handle the management of Dinner Key during that time between the City's
acceptance of a Marina Water Front Trust idea and the formal legal organization
appointing the trustees in a manner suitable to the City, We don't know just
what legal status an interim committee would have, who the people would be
and what their experiences in running the marina, nor very importantly, whatever
role they may have in the planning and construction thereof. So, we were at
loss to be able to comment on a number of situations here. Now, regarding
the finances as trust proposers, I have very sketchy figures showing that
they can keep the service rates at the present five and ten cent rate, after
the rental of five hundred slips which is 222,500 feet. Realistically, as
we looked at it their expectations could not be achieved by a wide margin
and we put an additional exhibit in here to portray that. The proposal
show gross revenues of $787,300 and on this assumption which I couldn't
quite reconcile myself, but I don't think that it's a terribly important
difference, so it wouldn't be that much. But they show expenses of $310,000
and debt service on an issue of 2,000,000 bonds, leaving 309,500 before the
minimum guarantee of the City of 150,000. Now, the trust is not in a position
to guarantee funds to the City since it doesn't have funds of it's own and
these figures however, which show afavorable return to the City on the
basis presented, but is not obtainable in our opinion. The bond issue of
$2,000,000 is unreasonable to accomplish the construction of five hundred
slips as spaces, especially when the available construction costs are reduced
by the normal reserves included and the issuance cost of the bonds. It is
unreasonable to believe that $310,000 would cover the expense of five hundred
slips, when five hundred slips are in operation because more space will require
a greater expenditure and more service space in the 1977-78 estimate of the
expenses used in their calculation. True, they use these figures as comparison
with other proposers, but they are not supported as we look at it. We have
attached to this particular section of the report and to deal with the
concepts more realistically as to plan income, operation maintenance and the
expense, construction cost, size of the bond issue, debt service requirements
and return to the City. Now, we have used the five and ten cents rate on this
eNhi'bit of adjustment for the five hundred slips and the#787,000 used by the
tttist and then we gave them credit which they hadn't taken for the income
on two hundred moorings of $96,000, you see, their income would have to pay
for debt service on bonds which proceeds were used to put these moorings in
place, so we had to give them credit for that income, And then there is
interest on the reserves and there is two reserves, there is a debt service
reserve that would in the amount of the maximum amount of debt service, which
is $406,000 per year, after the bond starts to mature. And then there is
$180,000 of renewal and replacement reserve that felt, that would be necessary
and the interest on that should be include, which it was not, so that amounts
10 0,325, giving total revenues ofW933,625 and the operation maintenance expense,
we figured from figures that we felt were viable and taking into account
inflation of#467,470 and renewal and replacement reserve of $10,000, I know
that isn't much, but we started out with a reserve capitalized at$180,000 and
that then gave us net revenues oft456,155 and less the debt service of4406,000
and gave it surplus of dollars of money out of $50,155. Now, when we say
surplus, 1 want to call attention to the fact that in issuing bonds you have
to have net revenues, heavy coverage of debt service which we think would be
required of the market so that you can get a decent price for your bonds and
that bond holders would expect to see when such a bond of this type of one
and half times coverage, so that actually if.,, with $406,000 being the
maximum debt service an almost leveled debt service after the fist couple of
years when we provided some interest during construction would necessarily
throw off 50 of that as a surplus item or $203,000, that is built in, that
is something that you would really have no control over, the bond holders
would demand that kind of a coverage.
Mr. Grassie: Are there any questions that the City Commission would like
to ask about this?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, the bottom line.
Mr. Grassie: The bottom line is that the proposal of the trust as it was
presented, in the opinion of the financial advisors, is not obtainable. They
can't do what is necessary at the rates that they propose. The financial
advisors have gone a step further and they have assumed that the trust would
use the 3,1ne- if they use the same rates as the private sector, then they
would have: more surplus left than the private sector because, of course,
the private sector is taking out some profit or at least the management fee.
So, if you assume that they charge the same rates as the private sector,
then the City can get the credit or the management fee that you would pay
the private sector for their services. If you take their proposal at face
value as they presented it, they can't get it done. They can't get the job
done.
Mr. Plummer: Based on five and ten cents.
Mr. Grassie: That's correct, based on five and ten cents.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, are we comparing apples and apples or apples and oranges?
Mr. Grassie: Well, that's why we have presented it two ways. What you asked
the financial advisor to do, was to take the proposal of the trust and evaluate
it in the same way that they evaluated other proposals,- on that basis which
is what you asked- on that basis, the answer is, it can't be done their way.
Now, to go one step further and say alright, let's not assume that they
hold those rates, but let's assume that they have the same rates as the
private sector would, on that assumption the answer is, that their proposal
would be better to the extent that they don't get the participation, the
payment or for management.
Mrs. Gordon: That's the apples and apples.
rr. Grassie: Yes, that the private sectors would get.
Mrs. Gordon: Question, to Mr. Condon, just a matter of information, You,,,'
in this report you furnished to us, you have two separate letters, each
of them are dated identically the same date. Would you explain please,
why you chose to send two separate letters? Which one came first?
Mr. Condon: Ah, yes. They came together as a matter of fact. We wanted
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tut we really had two assignments heret One was to look into the feasibility
of the trust idea and the other was to look into the feasibility of the private
sector, plus the trust, Now, when we get into this next section, you will see
that the trust is also involved in our discussion.
Mrs. Gordon: It does seem kind of curious to me that you took the route
of two separate letters, They were done simultaneously and sent here simultaneously?
One wasn't a first letter and a follow-up letter? Is that it?
Mr. Condon: No.
Mayor Ferre: What difference does that make?
Mrs. Gordon: No, that's not the point? Mr. Mayor,
Mr. Condon: The question, please?
Mrs. Gordon: The point is, you said you sent both letters to the Manager at
the same time? Correct? You didn't have a consultation with Administration
and then sent a second letter, did you?
Mr. Condon: We did have a consultation with the letter which we asked to
discuss with them to see that they were covering the points involved and the first
letter that we talked about was the one that begins "as per your request
Hough has completed an update of the analysis". We talked about that and
in a preliminary way and found that we wanted to change certain things in it
ourselves.
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I thought.
Mr. Condon: We also found out that and had to admit, that we probably hadn't
adressed ourselves to- I think it was Mr. Plummer's question to look into the
trust idea.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, think you for your answer.
Mr. Grassie: This is a report to you on progress basically, Mr. Mayor and
Members of the City Commission, of the representatives. So, the two private
sector groups are here. I don't know that they want to address you necessarily,
but we have been making good progress with them and we haven't run into any
insurmountable problems so far. So it seems that we are on the track. We
have the financial advisor on board. The financial advisor is in the process
of providing the City with engineering assistance and I think that it's moving
well.
Rev. Gibson:
Mr. Grassie:
Rev. Gibson:
at me.
Mayor Ferre:
Then am I to assume that we are going full speed ahead?
That's correct,
I just want to make sure, you know, those people keep looking
Alright, are there any further questions at this time?
Mr. Plummer: I just want to make sure Mr, Mayor, that these people of the
groups, that Grassie had been forwarded a copy.
Mr, Grassie: I assume so, Have you?
Mr, Plummer; We all have copies?
M � plumMer; YOU got a copy?
Kummer; Mr. Mayor, you got a copy?
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Mr. Plummer: Well, t would hype that copies w u1d be avtilable fdt at lust
to those people who are involved in current,
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir,..
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, t wonder if the people bete have any thing they
want to say...
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to ask that in a moment.
Rev. Gibson: Ok, because this gentleman said something to me earlier.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any further questions or comments from the
members of the Commission or staff.
Mrs. Gordon: Just a clarification of the report that Mr. Condon has made.
Just in a summary, the report says "that the trust would return under any
other rate structure than the first rate structure which is a low rate structure,
the return to the City would be greater. Is that correct or incorrect?
Mayor Ferre: Assuming a lot of other things. Is that correct?
Mr. Grassie: I thought that Commissioner Gordon, was asking Mr. Condon.
Mrs. Gordon: As a revenue... Mr. Condon, I'm asking Mr. Condon for a
confirmation of a conclusion. On every rate structure except the five and
ten, the return to the City would be greater with a trust, with a trust, you
know?
Mr. Condon: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: The trust is not formed, the people aren't picked and there is
no management in place or anything else, but it's a concept. On the concept
the answer is, that with any rate structure other than the five and ten, the
return to the City would be greater. Is that correct or incorrect?
Mr. Slade: My name is Jerry Slade, I'm with William R. Hough and I'm here
with Mr. Condon and had worked up the figures that we used in the model.
The answer to your question is yes, that is correct.
Mrs. Gordon: That's all I wanted to know. Thank you. For the records I
want that in place.
Rev. Gibson: Let me raise a question because the gentleman pointed it out
to me. Isn't that right, sir? Are you taking into consideration... Now,
I'm hoping that you don't plan- nobody out there has any idea that we are
going to be taking in that consideration, that you keep in mind that all
those people who are going to be working are going to be City personnel and
all that other business, you know and all that insurance business. And...
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Mr. Slade: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: So that... you see a private industry doesn't. They have to
allow for that. If the trust does it, I don't want the trust to say to us,
you know, "well you got City personnel". Do you know what I'm talking about?
That's what I was hearing, apples and oranges, make sure you explain that to
us.
Mrs. Gordon: I think the question would be best answered if you answered
it as to whether the figures you have displaced are based upon net return
to the city or not. In all three instances or four instances.
Mr. Slade: Alright, what we did once again was to take each of the proposals
as they were submitted, take their schedules for the return to the City
and in our analysis- and that's on exhibit one, in the letter that you have-
we then showed what the return would be to the City. In the case of the
trust, obviously their proposal was that everything, all surplus revenue
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Mts, Gordon: Yes, surplus revenues
t,r. Slade: Unless that was showing revenues
Mts. Gordon: Net revenues and less expenses, Might,
:sir. Slade: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further questions?
Mt. Plummer: Not really questions, Mr, Mayor. Let tle interject a pointy
Mayor Ferre: Comments.
Mr. Plummer: You know, the one thing that we are not talking about and it's
almost the impossible, but it is a very main factor and that is that private
industry is profit motivated, you know, and that's really an inmeasurable
thing. We saw when Miamarina first was built, it at first was operating
like at about 40% of capacity and there was no motivation by the City to do
any better. Ok. They didn't want to correct the problems, they didn't want
to promote it and you know, this is the thing that bothers me with a public
trust. I would like to trust the idea, but when you have people who are
there, who are going to draw their salary regardless of what happens in the
dollars and cents bucket, as opposed to a man who's financial rear end is on
the line. That'q called motivation and that's something you can't measure
here because ...
Rev. Gibson: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: •. in the concept of public trust, it's a good concept and on
paper it shows good returns. Now, I do know for a fact that Mr. Dixon brought
out that part of that monies that they are allocating for expenses is for
advertising. but you know, it's not quite the same when your wallet is
directly effected by what you make as opposed to private enterprise, Now,
the concept of private enterprise, I, you know, being a businessman I have to
look favorably on, because if you don't make it, you don't get it. And you
know, 1 have to question, not so much as you have referred to because it is
a critical point of quality in management, but motivation to do that which is
necessary. So, I just feel that that has to be on the record, that's something
wo have not talked about in the two opposing views of trust and private
industry and I think it's a big factor because we have seen what has happened,
that there is no incentive for that kind of a situation to do better.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, any further comments? If not as Father Gibson requested
are there any comments from any members of the proposing groups? No, well
thank you, very,,.
Mr. Dixon: Mr. Mayor, could I ask a question at this time?
Mayor Ferre: Sure,
Mr. Dixon: Would that be appropriate?
Mayor Ferre: Sure, as long as we don't get into a long one hour fight here.
Mr. Dixon: I won't, In his cover letter which I have a copy of, he addressed
himself to the question of the skills and ability of the management of the
trust. The trust is a concept, it's an idea, if the Commission would say
that the trust should be created, I'm sure that we can get qualified
individuals to serve on the trust and I think this is exemplified by the
fact that the manager just tolded you ten minutes ago, that they have set
up a Marinas Review Committee of citizens. So, obviously the administration
has grasped the concept of citizens being involved. Now, relative to the
exhibit one- and Iwant you indulgence for just one moment to turn your documents
to exhibit 01. Exhibit #1 is a cash flow projection of marina operations
from 79-88 and I would ask that you look at the return pay to the City. This
one tells me- this is the last comment I will make- this is the return to
the City under proposed rates, exhibit one and look under the rate of five
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tett years, a million and six hundred thousand dollars, At the rate of ten
cents and thirteen cents please note at the bottom it says that the trust
mould pay to the City two million dollars, All of the other proposers will
pay the City less and at fifteen and eighteen cents the trust would pay the
City in ten years, five million and four and ninety --three thousand dollars,
And I think it's very interesting to know that this chart prepared by the
consultants to the City shows, that the private developer is motivated because
he is going to receive three million and two hundred thousand dollars and
pay the City Two million and two hundred thousand dollars. Let me assure you
that with an additional three million dollars, the trust can hire the best
management in the United States to protect and make sure the marinas are
expanded. All of the profit stays with the City, it's not being diluted
by this private, interested, private motivated company. I'm motivated, I
have been here, the City is willing to ask citizens to be involved in a
review committee to oversee it. They have already set the precedent, just
give us a chance to show it.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, thank you, Mr. Dixon. Ah, just for the record and I just
might make a brief statement. I think you are right, I think it's a matter
of philosophy. I happen to... I had a very interesting lunch the other day
with a gentleman and we discussed the difference of some of the City projects.
That gentleman thought it was... was very much in favor of the James L. Knight
University of Miami Conference Center and the City of Miami Convention Center.
That happens to be a project that the City of Miami is leasing on a long term
basis, the land, and we are basically building a convention and a conference
center for the benefit of the public sector and for the benefit of the private
sector, because the developer, who is going to have six hundred and seven
hotel rooms and a hundred and thirty thousand square feet of commercial space,
is going to make an awful lot of money and he is going to do quite well. And
Massachusetts Mutual who is financing the whole thing, is going to make a lot
of money on it too. So, I ask a question of this gentleman, "if that concept
was valid for the Knight Conference Center?" " Was it also valid for the
Rusty Pelican?" and he said "yes", it was valid for the Rusty Pelican. And
then I said " well, is it valid on Watson Island?" "Well, no, it's not valid
on Watson Island." Well, what's not valid on Watson Island, is that that
gentleman doesn't like the Watson Island project....
Rev. Gibson: Oh.
Mayor Ferre: But it's not a question of the philosophy of whether or not
the City on public property, can go to long term leases to develop a piece
of property. Now, then I asked him "well, how about the Dinner Key Expansion?"
"Well, he said, I guess you made a philosphical point." And the question is
that we cannot... and here is my point, we in this City of Miami go around
making decisions many, many times and in Metropolitan -Dade County, based on
our personal likes or dislikes of an individual or somebody. The reason why
we have this mess in Metro and I say it very bluntly, is because twenty-three
years ago when Charlie Crandon had that Committee meeting, a lot of people
in that Committee didn't like some of the politicians down at the City of
Miami, it was just that simple. Well, so and so is no good and the other
guy is no good. Well, ask you if Tom Jefferson and Madison and Adams had
gone around designing the Government of the United States based on whether
or not they like or didn't like George Washington's wood teeth or somebody
else's approach on some particular problem, then I think we would have had
a very different kind of a Government and the question just simply boils
down to this, forget the individuals, forget the people involved. Do we
in the City of Miami want to develop property for the public good? Yes.
How we best go around doing that? Do we go about doing it ourselves? Well,
that's a philosophical question, you see, we get down to... Now, my personal
answer to that is, the City of Miami and the Governments structure is not
designed to build and run golf courses, restaurants, hotels, marinas and
other such things like that, Now, should they.,. there comes the next
question. Well, then, should Government be involved at all in these type
of things and my answer to that is "yes", it would serve as a public purpose
Then the question is well, if the goverment can't do it, but the Government
should be involved, then how do we go about doing it and there are two answers
to that. Either in an authority method or a public trust in which citizens
are involved or you go about doing it with the private sector, Now, what
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tie in Miami are doing is not unique, it is being done in Oakland, California,
It has been done in Kansas City, I just came back from California and I saw
Many many examples of where the public sector and private sector get together
and go hand in hand and develop things for both the public and the private good.
Now, Plummer said something very important. He talked about the profit motivation.
1 don't ha... you know, around here in this town, whenever you mention the word
that somebody is going to make a profit, oh, there is something wrong. Somebody
is doing something dishonest. Something is questionable, Who is getting paid
off? All those bad people, you know. Well, I want to tell you something, I-
on the record- and I happen to be a firm believer that there has just been too
much of that hog wash going on in this community for the past fifty years and
that's why this City of Miami and the community as a whole, has not developed
the way it should have developed. Now, I'm not saying that there is no danger
in that, but with the activist press that we have around here and the type of
community that we have, I'm quite sure that everything that gets done around
here is going to be so thoroughly scrutinized, that if just anybody who wants
to put up with the kind of exposure that they are going to have to put up with
is certainly welcome, in my opinion, to go ahead and move forward. Now, I
know that there are such things as complex of interest and so on and I think
we have to be very careful and very precautious about that and I'm sure the
press will make sure that we are. But, getting to the bottom line, my conclusion
simply is this, that if I had today- as much as I regard and respect the Off -Street
Parking Authority and the Downtown Development Authority and if Roy Kenzie is
here and I'm sure he has heard me say this before- and I think Roy is doing a
magnificent job and the Downtown Development Authority has really blossomed
and it's really come forward in doing a first rate job to the City of Miami.
However, on a philosophical basis, if I had to vote all over again on the
Downtown Development Authority and the Off -Street Parking Authority and any
other authority or trust, I won't vote for it because I simply think that the
public trust is the City of Miami Commission, because we get elected and that's
who answers to the public and if we want a public trust, this is the public
trust right here and we don't have to ask for users or developers or anybody
else to submit names. We submit our names to something called the electorate
and we do that every ;,ao years. This is the public trust right here and *here
ain't no buck passing. Now, with regards to the private sector, if we decide to
develop it that way, that is a different matter. But, the responsibility of
what happens and how it's done most remain in this board. Now, you say " well, but
that's just semantics and public trust, you have to approve the budget and therefore,
you have final responsibility and that might be a point and there maybe a fine
line there. I just philosophically feel that the City of Miami should not be
involved in the business of running marinas and I just don't... I just can't
at this point and that's just a personal opinion. Now, unless there is no other
alternative, I'll go with any authorities or trusts. Now, I realize that some
of the projections are that if you make no profit and there are no expenses for
the private sector, obviously the public sector is going to do much better. Now, if
that were so ladies and gentlemen, then we would have no public utilities in
these United States because they would all be Governmental utilities. Now,
why are there public electric companies when... and look at the record of the
Government running electric companies, there are traditional. Why? Well, because
when there is a profit motivation as Plummer said, people go out and they cut
expenses, they work a little harder, it's a little bit tougher because they got
to meet a payroll and they got to pay a profit at the end of the year and the fact
is that "yes" the public trust would make more money on the record, but that's
assuming an awful lot of things and in my opinion those assumptions are a little
bit too, much for me, personally to accept and that is my opinion on the record.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, let's move on.
4. DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO FUND INCREASED BENEFITS TO
RETIREES.
Mayor Ferre: We are on item number B, discussion of financing for benefits
for retired,employees. Alright, Mr. Manager, before you say anything I would
like to say'hello to our friend Betty who is with us today.and I was happy
to see you Betty and the other members of the retired employees of the City
of Miami.
Mr. Grassie: This item Mr. Mayor, and Members of the City Commission, is
here so that we come to some kind of a conclusion on the question of money,
You know, that we haye presented to an ordinance change, you have adopted
that and you have approved the necessary legislation so that we could make
the change in the benefits to retired employees. What we now have to do, is
to approve the money. You know, that that is something that, of course, relates
to our budget, The kind of money that we are talking about is not something
that is included, so what we are bringing to you is that policy choice and
the question is whether or not this needs to be considered as you go through
tiis coming year's budget, since it's going to have an impact of some three
hundred thousand dollars on that budget.
Mayor Ferre: I thought it was two hundred thousand dollars,
Mr. Grassie: I'm sorry, I'm thinking...
Mayor rerre: In your memorandum of August 23, it says the total cost for
both fiscal years is two hundred and thirteen thousand dollars,
Mr. Gm:Isie: Now, I'm...
Mayor Ferre: Forty-two thousand this year and hundred and seventy-one for
next year.
Mr. Grassie! I'm thinking of the two benefits that we are talking about.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Grassie: You remember that you said two things. One, you were concerned
about the payment that the City had been making in the past for insurance
purposes which has become illegal because of State Legislation.
Mayor Jerre: Yes.
Mr. Grassie: You were concerned about that. And the other thing that you
were concerned about was the question of the increase in basic benefits.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Grassie: So, we are talking about those two things and the combined cost.
of those is just over three hundred thousand dollars.
Mayor Ferre: That's for both years?
Mr. Grassie: That is correct.
Mayor Ferre: To the remainder and for next fiscal year, The first thing
would cost hundred and seventy-one thousand which is the retirees pension
payment by an increase of one half of -percent on the first three hundred
dollars of benefit times the number of years retired, That cost a hundred
and seventy-one thousand. The second thing is the pension payments to
compensate for the loss of the City contribution to the retirees group insurance
and that cost eighty-seven thousand a year. Is that right?
Mr, Grassie: That's correct,
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Mayor Vetre : Now, ate you asking us whether Ot fiat tie agree with this or do
you Want us to set a policy?
Mr, Grassie: No, basically what I'tn.... I'tn putting out that we have this
money problem that we have to deal with if we are to put into practice the
legislation that we have adopted and we..,
Mayor Ferre: Well, didn't we already vote on that?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, I thought we agreed.
Mr, Grassie: You have voted on the legislation, you have approved the legislation,
What we now have to do is to modify the budget to provide the money for tis
so that we can do it.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr, Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
Well, Mr. Mayor, you know, as far as,,,
It sounds like an empty suit to me,
Mr. Plummer: That's What I'm
I think the Commission supposedly has
the decision. Now, we are looking to you to come and
going to do it. We know what the problem is, we knew
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that when we voted.
Mr. Manager,
have made
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer moves, Mrs. Gordon seconds, is there further discussion?
Mrs. Gordon: What's the motion suppose to be?
Mayor Ferre: The motion is that the Manager bite the bullet.
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, alright, the Manager better bite the bullet.
Rev. Gibson: Call the roll, call the roll, please. Call the roll,
you waiting for?
Mrs. Gordon: What?
Rev. Gibson: Why don't you ought to go on and call that roll.
Mayor Ferre; Alright, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption,
MOTION NO. 78-541
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO FUND INCREASED
BENEFITS TO CITY OF MIAMI RETIRED EMPLOYEES AS FOLLOWS:
1. INCREASING RETIREES PENSION PAYMENTS BY ONE-HALF OF
ONE PERCENT (.5%) ON THE FIRST $300 OF BENEFITS TIMES
THE NUMBER OF YEARS RETIRED; AND
2. INCREASING RETIREES PENSION PAYMENTS TO COMPENSATE FOR
LOSS OF CITY'S CONTRIBUTION TO RETIREES' GROUP INSURANCE,
THE TOTAL COST TO THE CITY OF BENEFITS AS DESCRIBED WILL BE
$301,350,
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES; Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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5. STATUS REPORT OF EDUCATIONAL COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT
IN DOWNTOWN AREA.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now we are on item number C, report on status of
the educational complex development in downtown.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, and Members of the...
Mayor Ferre: Roy and Mr. Fine?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, and Members of the Commission, this is a project
that's been in the works for some time and we wanted to bring you up to date
on the status of the Ed. Com. project. Roy Kenzie is here representing the
DDA. Roy is the project manager for this effort. Mr. Martin Fine is here
representing the New World Center Action Committee. It's his committee that's
been overseeing the work on this project. As you may recall the City is
involved to the tune of one million and nine hundred thousand dollars in
land acquisitions and the County, Dade County is involved...
nayor Ferre: Roy, would you put that further out, so we can see it?
Mt. Fosmoen: Dade County is involved to the tune of one million and three
hundred thousand dollars in land acquisition. The purpose today is to present
to you the final development plans for the Ed. Com. project. Roy?
Mrs. Gordon: What were those two figures, please, Dick?
Mr. Fosmoen: CD funding from the City is one million and nine hundred thousand,
CD funding from the County is one million and three hundred thousand. It's
a joint redevelopment project in the downtown area.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, ok, fine.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you orient us on this. Well, where is the...
that's the junior college fi7?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, I think if you give Roy, just a second to get his model
in place, he is going to orient you.
Mr. Kenzie: Ok?
Mr. Grassie: Would you like Mr. Mayor, for us to start the presentation?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, we were waiting for you.
Mr. Kenzie: Ok.
Mr. Grassie: Roy?
Mr. Kenzie: Mr. Mayor, and Members of the City Commission, this is'
results of that master plan..,
Mr. Orgie: Sir, will you take the microphone, please?
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Mr. Kenzie: It's hardto show the model and walk, but they can do it now,
year ago the City Commission approved the expenditure of five thousand
ollars.for community development funds to undertake a joint efford to produce
master;plan for the community college and expansion of community college
facilities downtown. That was in August of 1977, Today we are bringing to
you the completed master plan for the community college and would like to
update you on the activities that have taken place over the last year. 0n
this plan that's before you here, I'm standing at the northern end of the
property. The existing community college is #7. The post office_is #i10.
The new federal courts annex building which is under construction now is #11.
The baptist church is #2 and the existing off-street parking garage is #9 on
there. We are looking to expand the community college both North and South
of the existing building. On the North block we are building two structures,
a lower structure which will include classrooms and laboratory facilities
for Miami -Dade Community College, It's about a hundred and four net assignable
square feet and includes twenty thousand square feet for Florida International
University. Florida International University is already setting up offices,,.
Mayor Ferre: Twenty thousand?
Mr. Kenzie: Twenty thousand square feet for FIU. That's to start.
Mayor Ferre: That's very little though.
Mr. Kenzie: Yes, that's starting right now, moving in,.. they already are
establishing offices downtown and this will provide the first chunk for their
space. In addition to that, this structure here is housing for the elderly
project of a hundred and fifty units programmed through Dade County Housing
and Urban Development, Also, on the North block there will be...
Mr. Plummer: Whoa, whoa, whoa, let me ask a question.
Mr. Kenzie: Yes?
Mr. Plummer: That 19,..
Mr. Kenzie: 6.
Mr. Plummer: 6, alright, is that going to
Mr. Kenzie: For the elderly.
Mr. Plummer: Why?
Mr. Kenzie: Because we are displacing a number of elderly in the South block
and the North block in construction.
Mr. Plummer: Why? But why take and put this here when you can move it one
block or two blocks up and you know the school is going to be expanding or
at least we hope it's going to be expanding?
Mr. Kenzie: No, this particular building is programmed to handle their
expansion over the next- about seven year period.
Mayor Ferre: Who's expansion?
Mr. Kenzie: Community college expansion,
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I think Plummer has got a valid point,
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Why, take up the land... look, you see that fire station #5,
I'll tell you in ten years from now Marty, you are going to take that.., that
fire station is going to,., we are going to have to put it some where else,
And then we are going to get stuck, because that means that #{6 is already
there, it's too new and nobody is going to want to tear it down and what
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Mrs. Gordon: I'll agree with hit, I do, •
Mr. Fine: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Conunission,,°if may ° . 'I want t i be
very careful that I'm not sitting here as a planner'talking tb yoti, but Itin
not sure that it's clear,,.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why not? You are more qualified than we are and we do
it all the time.
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Mr. Fine: No,•no I'm not. i#12, the entire block of #112 is scheduled for
future acquisition for the expansion- as Mr. Plummer said- of the college
and that has been the plan from the very beginning and very frankly by now,
we had hoped that the City and the County would have been able to acquire of
it, because their funds weren't available, they didn't. And very candidly
this little piece of land is just a sliver of land, just happens to fit into
where that whole thing works well together, but please, bear in mind that the
entire block there is and will be available in addition to land on the other
side, three quarters of which block is already owned by the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Now, you mean the entire block exclusive of the bus station?
Mr. Fine: Well, no. The entire block is slated for acauisition including
the bus station and as you pointed out, #11 is a presently under construction
addition to the federal building, so that complex will become one. And I
would guess very candidly that that's enough land for maybe twenty years or
more from what the community college folks and FIU were talking about,
Mayor Ferre: What's #1 again, Roy? No, this one here in the corner.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Fine: #1, this is a central baptist church.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Fine: And they own that entire tract of land and we have been working
with the church and Dr. Willard to see if we can be of assistance to them
in obtaining federal funds in which to build housing for the elderly,
Mr. Plummer: And I agree with it North of this street. The North side of
this street, you are still access to the line, but agree to take and bring
this into what I would call the educational complex, when you can put it
right across the street.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Let's look what's across the street, a laundry, a filling station,...
Mayor Ferre: Blood bank.
Mr. Plummer: You know, to me to utilize that property right there is just
out of character unless- and that's why I asked the question if it was housing
for the students. That's a different story because then that's part of the
educational complex.
Mr. Fine: Well, part of the answer there is, you see, we have a notion generally
when we speak about schools, that students have to be young people, I would
like to think that you and I are students and the fact of the matter is that
a community college caters to a great extent to older people and there is
°going to be a tremendous amount of,,,
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Mt. Pine: ,,, and 1 think really that's going to be,themost unique elderly
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housing project in the country and very much connected with`a part of an oh
going evening activity as well as daytime activity where they are°going to be
there
Mayor Ferre: They can do it across the street just as well.
Mr. Plummer: I agree, they can do it across the street,
Mr, Fine: Well, J. L,, I would say this to you, They could do it any where
in town they want to do it because by the time things get ready the transportation,.,
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Mayor Ferre: I know that,
Mr, Fine: ,,. system is going to be there and they can get downtown, Number
three, there is a people mover station that's going to be right at that site.
I can't sit here...
Mayor Ferre: Where, excuse me?
Mr. Fine: Right here.
Mayor Ferre: Right there, ah huh.
Mr. Fine: I certainly can't stand here and relate to
Mrs. Gordon: On which side Martin, is the people mover?
tiayor Ferre: 113.
Mr. Fine: 413.
Mrs. Gordon: The right side or the left side?
Mr. Fine: Right there.
Mr. Kenzie: The right side.
Mr, Fine: But I can only tell you that the firm of Grafton, Ferendino, Spillis,
Candela and we the people have been working on this for a year along with
Roy, your Planning Department and the County's and have done in my opinion, a
super job of putting this together. They anticipate closing four streets which
will make it a much bigger campus and pick up that extra land and I would think this
is one of the most exciting developments in the community and I'm simply here
on behalf of the New World Center Action Committee of the chamber to tell you
that we have spent a great deal of time on it and we endorse it wholeheartedly
and commend it to you for your review and approval.
Mr. Plummer: What's 414?
Mr. Fine: 114 is that portion of the South block which will also be for the
expansion of the community college. This is commonly referred to as a North
block, that's the South block, this is the existing City of Miami Off -Street
Parking Authority garage.
Mayor Ferre: Which eventually will be expanded, it, will be doubled.
Mr. Fine: Well,,..
Mayor Ferre; No.
Mr, Fine: ... the answer is that the foundations are in for it, but perhaps
they might even go in this block or some other block, but the land is being
reserved for it to be expanded,. So, this and this and this and this all '
. form one complex of an educational nature that I think is going to'help. °
. rejuvenate downtown and stake it possible for it to be used.all day and night,
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Mr, fire; 10? 16 is the existing post ()Meet
tteV, Gibson: 7?
Mr. Fine; I don f t knots tahere it i
Mr, Finer Oh, 7 is the existing community college,
Mayor Ferret Yes, that's all there. 70_0011 and...
Mrs. Gordon: 12.
Rev. Gibson; 12,
Mr. Fine; Pardon me?
Mrs. Gordon: What is 12?
Mr. Fine: 12, That's the proposed expansion for the community college;
F*U and it will hold a tremendous amount of space,
Mrs. Gordon: Is that land already under acquisition?
Mr. Fine: No, no, that land is planned to be under acquisition- pardon me,,,
planned for future development when other funds are available for CD programs
or other programs or EDA grands or a whole bunch of things and your folks
have done a great job in being ready to be poised for the time when Mrs,
Harris says " we have some extra money, what do we do with it?"
Mayor F.nne: Roy, as I understand it this is just a update on the part of
Mr. Fosmoen and yourself.
Mr. Kenzie: Yes, sir, that's correct, This plan has gone to the Community
College Board on Monday and was approved by the Community College Board and
the college has hired a construction manager to expedite the construction of
the college facilities, The State Legislature has set aside sixteen million
dollars for the construction of the two blocks, the South block being the
gymnasium auditorium and theater and laboratory space for the college and the
North block being mainly classroom space, over a five year period 3,5 million
a year with the ability to borrow ahead on the funds.
Mayor Ferre:
Now,...
Mr. Plummer: That involves #4?
Mr. Kenzie; Right #E4, on both blocks. North and South,
Mayor Ferre; Roy, how much of that land have we actually put together?
Mr. Fine: I was about to say, if I may so. As I spoke with the County
Attorney as recently as yesterday, the church property here has already
been acquired,
Mayor Ferre: uh huh,
Mr. Fine: The condemnation suit has been filed and the hearing on the
order of taking is scheduled for 9 o'clock in the morning October 26, at
which time the title will rest in the County, At it's meeting on September 19,
the County is being asked to appoint appraisers for this property and hopefully
that appraisal will be completed before the end of the year and acquisition
taken in the first quarter of 1979, with construction starting here.,,
Mayor Ferre; That's a Methodist church,
Mr, P'j.ne:
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Mt. Plummer: Basptist or Methodist?
Mayor Ferre: No, it's a Methodist chute'
Mt. Fine: It's a Methodist church.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, a Methodist church would take most of the area where 4 is
and part of where 3 is, but there is an awful lot of other space left and
where the Plummer building goes and that's 6, That's not the Methodist church.
Mr. Fine: No. By the way the Methodist church is building on Biscayne Blvd.
now at about 4th Street and they are going to build a lovely new building.
Mr. Plummer: They have already broke ground.
Mr. Fine: Broke ground.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, so we are on the way as fat as the acquisition?
Mr. Fine: Very much so. This is scheduled for completion at the end of
82.
p�► Mr. Plummer: Is six proposed out of the twenty-five million dollar bond issue
Mr. Fine: No, no.
Mr. Plummer: Where is that one coming from?
Mr. Fine: The Public Housing Act.
Mayor Ferre:
yet, has it?
Mr. Fine: Well, it's very much a part of the plan and part of the concept and
we are saying to you today that we think it's very appropriate and very valid.
And Mr. Adams have been very much... Mel Adams, very much a part of this
overall program and hopefully it will work out very well.
Mayor Ferre: Is there any reason and this is a technical question and you
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may not be able to answer it, but say ten years from now, Marty has decided
that we-- that the community really needs that space for student housing.
Would there be any constraints with the Federal Government?
Mr. Fine: If it could only be used for the purpose in which it was originally
built, it would be public housing.
Mayor Ferre: Well, then I tell you, I agree with Plummer and Rose, I think
that's a bad mistake. I really do, I think we ought to rethink that very
carefully.
Mr. Kenzie: On the two year facility.., the community college being a two
year facility, the types of students they draw right now do not demand housing.
If when we move into a four year or graduate programs with FIU, we may then
begin to generate some demands for housing, but right now the community college
doesn't want to produce housing or have housing there.
Mayor Ferre: Do you agree with that, with senior citizen...
Mr. Fine: Very much so,
Mayor Ferre; And you agree with it Roy?
Mr. Kenzie; Yes.
Mayor Ferre; And you agree with it?.
Well, that... I mean, that has not been finalized and returned
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*if. Vine: And very importantly, t would like to point out to you that
Mitch Wilson, who has liye and breathed this downtown redevelopment and is the
::hairman of the community college has enthusiastically
Mt, Plummer: Let me ask you a question. You used the terminology elderly
housing, but isn't it in fact subsidize housing?
Mr, Fine: Oh, that one is, "yes".
Mr. Plummer: But I mean,... what I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily have
to be for old people or elderly people.
Mr.. Fine: Well, this project is being designed for and will be limited to
older people and it will be subsidized.
Mr. Plummer; Is there a minimum age?
Mr, Fine: 62. We are getting closer, J.L.
Rev. Gibson: That excludes you, Plummer,
Mr. Plummer: We are getting one.
Mr. Fine: Getting closer.
Rev. Gibson: You have to wait too long.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, do you... does this Commission Want
comment on that senior citizen project?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Fosmoen: Or the senior citizen portion of this?
Mayor Ferre: Ah, that's up to...
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I would say this, that would be one way to keep those
older people in the ball game.
Mr. Fosmoen: Well, I think Commissioner, that's exactly the point,
Rev. Gibson: Yes, now that's right.
Mr. Fosmoen: You know, what we attempted to achieve is an integration o
an elderly housing project with a college campus.
Mr. Fine: Right.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, Commissioner Plummer is absolutely correct, we can take the
building and we can move it across the street and we can plunk them down in
what is now, not a very attractive area and hope that some day this area is
cleaned up. That's not our objective, our objective is to intergate the lives
of those elderly people into that campus, rather than stick them off on the
side some where and let them fight the traffic or let them worry about who
is coming around their building. If they are in here there is going to
be activity in that building, there are going to be students in that building
and it's going to be very difficult for somebody to hide in the corner and
jump out at them.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Rey, Gibson: It does the other thing too, By their being there some of those
young people might act with restraint,
Mr, Fosmoen: And there is also, an interaction
is a philosophical question.
Mayor Ferre; Ok,
Mr, Fosmoen: Interaction between old peop-e and
Mayor Ferre: Don't sell, you sold,
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Meyot tette: We buy it. Flutter, t want you to heat this. We ate under another
subject, but I just want to... Mr. Fosmoen, I'm addressing this to you, so
this is just a matter of... I don't want to get into a... I don't want to be
nasty of negative or anything like that*.,,
Mr. Fosmoen: Aw, go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: ... but I just want to make a philosophical comment to the
administration. The City of Miami, this is within our jurisdiction, We also
are using City funds since we are receiving community development funds for
this purpose. Now, the matter has been resolved, that's the housing and I
don't think we need any further reports and Father Gibson made that point.
Plummer did bring out a very important question. Well, he asked a question,
Now, this Commission is the elected board of this City, we speak for the
citizens who elected this policy setting Commission, that's our purpose. Now,
I would like to ask the Manager, through him to you, whether or not you at
any time thought it was important to bring this up to the City of Miami
Commission for discussion and for a policy matter?
Mr, Fosmoen: A policy matter on the senior citizen project or on the entire
development?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. Either way.
Mr. Fosmoen: Well, Mr, Mayor,...
Mayor Ferre: I mean this is being done with our money and our City and the City
of Miami... and this is the very first time the City of Miami has expressed
an opinion. I understand that you took it to the community and it was taken
to the community...
Mr. Fosmoen: The community college.
Mayor Ferre: Well, board for approval. I don't see that that's been done with
the City of Miami.
Mr. Fosmoen: But that's what it's here for.
Mayor Ferre: No, it isn't. It's here and I'll read you the committee of the
whole item C, report on status of educational complex development downtown.
Plummer asked a question, which is an important question and it's now been
answered. Don't you think this City of Miami Commission not only has a right,
but has a responsibility to express a major decision? Or do you feel that
staff has sufficient authority to assume that for us?
Ar Mr. Plummer: If you answer that one baby, you are crazy.
Mr. Fosmoen: No way. Mr. Mayor, let me answer it in another way. We did bring
to this Commission and have for the last two years, a community development
application, within that application and Ms. Spillman, made presentations
each year, this project in concept was defined for you. And we in those
presentations discussed expansion of the junior college in an integrated
housing site- elderly housing site.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fosmoen, you...
Mr. Fosmoen: Now, I would agree with you, sir, that it was not surfaced as
a particular issue for this Commission.
Mayor Ferre: You are an educated man in this particular field of planning.
Now, you know, like Father Gibson talks about he went to Law School for one
day. Well, you know, not all of us went to Architectural School for one day
or Planning School and for somebody to express something in abstract terms,
like Dena did for us two years ago and for that to be in any way presented
as an approval on something, I think it's a little.,. that's way out.
Mrs, Gordon; Are you talking about the money that we discussed for this
kind of development two years ago?
Mr, Fosmoen; No, no, We discussed it with the last CD application,
Mayor Ferre; But that was very abstract, Dick,
Mr, Fosmoen: Well* it wasn't abstract, it was not highlighted as a project,
but it has been the concept of an intergrated campus with an elderly housing project.
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Mrs, Gordon: When was the first tithe that you ptesettted the
trying to recall. I think it was two years ago, wasn+t it?
Mr. Fosmoen: As a project?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Fosmoen: Two years ago and again last year.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok, and then you reiterated it again?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
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Mrs, Gordon: Ok, I do recall Mr. Mayor, that we did have in mind monies that
we were going to be utilizing from CD for the development of housing and,.,
Mayor Ferre: I agree with that.
Mrs. Gordon: ... college facilities in downtown.
Mayor Ferre: In abstract.
Mrs. Gordon: It wasn't delineated on which block or in what shape, but i
I recalled that we did discuss what it was going to be used for.
Mayor Ferre: In abstract.
Mrs. Gordon: In fact Maurice, if you recall there was a lot of feelings? in
fact on my part at that time, that perhaps we needed to use some of that money
for more critical areas like Culmer and at which time at that time it was told
to me and you were one of those who said it " what do you want to do, take the
money away from the housing in downtown?" and I said "ok, alright, we will do
it from the next funded year."
Mayor Ferre: And I agree again, that this matter has been discussed in abstract.
Now, I'm just making a point. The point is Plummer asked a question, I was
surprised at his question. It's been answered, but the point is that it's
been answered after the fact. The whole community... this has been sudden
action. Let me put it to you another way, Mr. Fosmoen. Mr. Fine, is here
representing the Chamber of Commerce. Now, the Chamber of Commerce are people
that are selected. They are... and the leaders group, who meet and decide the
destiny and future of this community and that's fine. Now, I would like to
know whether or not the Manager, because I have brought this question up to
four fields, that this City Commission should be as well informed as to what's
going on in downtown and other parts of the City of Miami, as the Chamber of
Commerce is. Because many times in the past I have gotten my information
and I'm the Mayor of the City of Miami, from minutes that I get from the
Chamber of Commerce meetings. Now, I just happen to rebel against that
philosophically. The same lecture that I get, I will give you another lecture
on Government and on trust and on authorities. I do not think that this
Commission is being taken in sufficiently in the decision making process on
projects that affect the City of Miami and I do not like to hear about housing
going on on Fifth Street after the fact, in specific from a very distinguished
gentleman and member of this community who comes here representing the Chamber
of Commerce. Now, I have nothing against the Chamber of Commerce, but that's
not the way for the City of Miami Commission to be informed as to what's going
on within it's jurisdiction. And I'm not trying to create any more problems,
but we do and there is no big mystery about it, you know that there is always
a communications problem in Government, especially between administration and
the legislative body, whether it's Congress or the City of Miami Commission.
And certainly this does not add to the kind of communications and confidence
and rapport that we need to have.
Mr, Plummer; Well, you know, I think,,, you know, briefly what we are saying
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Mayor Perre: It hasn't, it's gone beyond us.
Mr, Plummer: Well, no, the buck stops here with the City of Miami. It is
in the City of Miami and you are boxing us in and coming here tell us that
all of this has been approved by all these other people who don't have the
authority. Who don't have the control of the funds and I think it's unfair.
I really do, that we don't have some of the initial input or at least be
put on the same par with the others, you know.
Rev. Gibson: Well, Mr. Mayor, I... Oh, Mr. Nayor, I hope , I hope and trust
and pray that the administration is getting this message. This has been
happening to us constantly. We are going to take up another matter where this
happened. You know, remember I said just before we went on vacation. I don't
plan to let no body call the shots for Theodore. I's gonna call my shots.
In this instance and I'm in accord, but I think, you know, just common courtesy
and decency would say "look Ted, this is what we are planning to do" and I
want to make sure that everybody on this staff understands that. Don't
take me for no granted, because I certainly don't mind surprising folk. Ok?
I'm not going to say no more than that. That I'm talking about policy, I'm
in accord with what's there, but I'm talking about policy, don't tell me after
the fact, because I think some of you all think that you all are the Commissioners.
Mr. Plummer: Sometimes I wish they were.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, any further comments or statements?
Mr. Plummer: Well, what is it you are asking of us to do this morning?
Mayor Ferre: Nothing, nothing, it's... we are through. Unless you want to do
anything else.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm still in disagreement... a basic disagreement on the
one thing.
Mayor Ferre: It is duly noted, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Fine and that's as far as it will go, that's what bothers me.
6. "NEW TOWN - IN TOWN", REPROGRAMMING $200,000 (FOURTH
YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS); AUTHORIZE AGREE-
MENT WITH DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR HIRING
OF PLANNING CONSULTANT.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on item ##0, New Town - In Town, planning strategy.
Mr. Fosmoen?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Commission, for some time this
community has been discussing the concept of a New Town/In town. I believe
it first surfaced with Wallace McHarg's recommendations for downtown. That
concept has languish for several years. We think that it's an important
effort in continuing the whole series of projects. We think that undertaking
an effort to create a New Town/In Town is in line with this Commission's
stated policy of using public dollars to stimulate and to leverage private
investment. What we would like to do is take a few minutes this morning
to describe to you the process that we would like to go through to undertake
a feasibility analysis of a New Town/In Town. We had been hoping and we still
are hopeful that Federal Legislation will be forthcoming which will create a
broader funding base for a New Town/In Town. However, we don't want to sit
back and wait for that to happen. It could happen in this session or the next
session of Congress, rather we would like to take the initiative now, begin
those steps that would permit us to undertake a New Town project as funding
becomes available and explore existing funding sources, particularly tax
income and financing. I would like Mr. Reid, the City's Planning Director,
to describe to you the process that we would like to go through and we also
have a resolution transferring funds from the Latin Riverfront Specialty
Center a small portion of those funds since we are not going to be able to
spend them all out by the end of this fiscal year- end of this project. Mr,
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Mt. 1teidi Mr, Mayot and Members of the City Commission, my purpose as Dick
has described it, is to talk about the New Town/In Town strategy, I have with
the toy Kenzie, of Downtown Development Authority and Dena Spillman of the
Community Development head to answer any questions that you might have. Our
Objective here really today is indicated in the little hand-out, is to describe
a little bit of the background in the context and the development goals for
the New Town/In Town study, to talk about the project organization and study
design and hopefully to receive your authorization to allocate two hundred
thousand dollars in community development funds to this project. Going on
to the background, the boundaries I want to indicate here on the 1974 aerial,
it doesn't show of course, the tremendous investments you have made in
Bicentennial Park, but it does show the area that's bound on the_North by
I-395. On the South by the old municipal railroad. On the West by the F,E.C.
railroad and on the East by Biscayne Blvd. This area has been subject to
a number of studies by the City including the Downtown Planning and Zoning
Study in 1972. It was the subject of a National Urban Design competition
in 1976, The Miami Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan which you adopted by
resolution included the carrying forward of this idea and more recently this
summer the Downtown Development Authority has done extensive field survey
in the area to get a current handle on existing conditions. And they have
mapped these field surveys in a report that they have put out. With respect
to the general context for the area, because I think it's important that you
consider this matter in the context of what's happening in and around the area
and downtown. We have of course, looked at the existing condition in the area
right now. The space that's used is about 25% retail space, 23% wholesale and
manufacturing, 23% of it is vacant which I think is a key point because we
essentially have areas where relocation is not required and 11% of it is used
for housing with about 1/5th of that being owner occupied, the rest of it
being rental housing. It is 68 acres in size excluding the public right-of-
way and of course, in his context trap...
Mayor Ferro. Is that all that is, 68 acres?
Mr. Reid: That's when you exclude public right-of-ways.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, oh, excluding public right-of-ways.
Mr. Reid: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: So, no streets or anything else and...
Mr. Reid: When you take the streets out there is 68 acres remaining.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ok.
Mr. Reid: Ok. In terms of it's location, of course, it is really in a
tremendously strategic location between the Omni complex and that force us
downtown and the Flagler Street retail and office area. With respect to other
things going on around you, the project, we feel would be enhanced by the
35 acre Bicentennial Park that you have already invested in, ok. But I think
this project can help that park in terms of bringing people to it and having
the use that it needs really to become a community resource. There is a
new park talked about in respect to the F.E.C. property. You have the Ed. Com.
project that you reviewed this morning and are commenting on and this provides
and educational resource for potential residents in New Town. They can walk
or easy access to educational facilities. The new Washington Heights Rapid
Transit Station is on one edge of the area and a proposed People Mover Station
is on the other giving it the...
Mayor Ferre: Now, would you point that out? Alright, yes, I saw it.
Mr. Reid: Right here.
Mayor Ferre: Npw, would you point that out, please? The People Mover?
Mr, Reid: The People Mover as it is presently being discussed, goes along
Biscayne Blvd, and indicates,,. on the Omni LEG, indicates a stop right
here in front of the New Town/In Town location, Of course, it is also
located and I think useful to the Culmer redevelopment area which is just
to the West and the construction that might go on here, the housing development
I think would have a very positive impact on Culmer. It's not very far from
the proposed government center project where ten thousand people will be
employed and in.,, overall in the downtown. This is the map of the action
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today in the downtown of what's going on oyerall in the downtown, The
residential community would compliment about seven hundred million of
investment activities that's now either taking place or contemplated by the
private sector and of course, it's not far from Watson Island assuming
that becomes a family and resource for the region and people from else
where. In terms of the development goals of the community which is also
outlined on my sheet and we would like to get your early feedback on this
We feel at this point and this is before detailed planning studies have been
done, it should be basically and predominantly a residential community. Now,
we feel a strong downtown must have residences in and around it, it shouldn't
be a dead place in the evening and so that this would be as we see it predominantly
a residential community with a balance aimed at both upper and lower income
families, but for the main emphasis on middle income people and a place where
they can live near where they work. We feel that there ought to be a range
of housing types and tenure, that is some townhouses and walk-ups and midrise
and some highrise and that there should be some convenient shopping and probably
you know, mixed use built into the project. We feel in the main shopping areas
where the people here would shop, would be the Omni and would be the Flagler
Street downtown for their major comparison shopping. Now, we think it should
be closely tied in with downtown and minis, there is a lot of strength in the
down town, people have a tendency to really miss the strength that we have.
With people around you the extensive parks could be used much more. The Miamarina
being upgrade. would be a tremendous facility in the evening for people to use
and support. Gusman Hall in terms of program etc, ... we are talking about a
residential community that has strength near by it, that no other community in
this region can top. We think that in terms of the development goal there has
to be a very feasible financing plan and we don't want to get ourselves committed
to this thing and not be able to pay for it. And we think that there must be
excellent design and strong development control, so that pedestrian space and
building design is really excellent throughout the whole project. With respect
to the project organization which is the next sheet in the hand-out I passed out.
We say right up front that the project needs your policy guidance. It needs
policy guidance from the City Commission. It needs to be talked to or talked
about to the County Commission because the possibility exist that later on
we would want to finance this project through tax income and financing. Possibly
also asking them to freeze in effect their taxes during a development period.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr, Fosmoen:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr, Fosmoen:
Is that assuming that the constitutional revision?
You have the legislation in place now...
Has that legislation been tested in court yet?
The South Bayshore development project is taking it through the
validation process now.
Mr. Reid: The Act was passed in 1977.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I know, we were very active in it. That's not the question.
The question is has it been tested in the Supreme Court of the State of Florida?
Mr. Fosmoen: It has not been and other communities are frankly hesitant to
move ahead before South Beach because they have at this point, got the best
Act together on it.
Mr. Reid: In terms of... so we expect to be coming back to this Commission
for policy guidance with respect of the development program, to the financing
aspects, marking strategy and the key policy decisions that occur during this
study. There will be business and citizen involvement through the New World
Center Action Committee and the Downtown Community Development Committee. We
also, intend to keep the Culmer Community Development Committee informed of
the work on this study, From the technical point of view with the intent to
establish a steering committee, it's a very complex project in which we will
involve our own Planning and Community Development Department, the Downtown
Development Authority, Dade County Little HUD which exercises redevelopment
activities for the County and of course, County Community Development because
they are our potential sources of funding and other that need it, including
Florida DOT and Dade County DOT,
Mrs. Gordon: How many acres did you say is in that area?
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Ir, Reid: In terms of the ithout tight'bt-.ways.681 occluding street right C -
wzys.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you,,, is part of the plan to close some streets and,,.
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Reid: The „ , that certainly will be looked at as an alternative in terms
of getting more buildable lots and so forth, but how that comes out will
depend on the detail look at circulation and access and the feasibility of
closing the street, But certainly we are going to look at that because that
would yeal more developable areas and which would be a plus. -
Mayor Ferre: Alright,
Mr. Reid: A key point and I want to emphasize this, is that we are not asking
for this money for the City of Miami Planning Department or the Downtown
Development Authority in terms of this study. We intend to be heavily involved,
but the basic idea here is that we would contract out for the technical work
with a firm or a group of firms that have planning capability in terms of
this kind of venture and have handled very complex ventures in the past, know
about development finance, no where the money is and how to layout the proformers
and the prospectors to get it and know about development management. How the
management of a project as complex as this can be carried off because...
Mrs. Gordon: What...
Mr. Reid: Yes?
Mrs. Gordon: That's ok, go ahead and finish your sentence.
Mr. Reid: Well, that's the basic job that we intend to lay -out for the consultant,
Mayor Ferre: Do you want us to pass a resolution? I'm sorry, Rose.
Mrs. Gordon: What time table from today, forward?
Mr. Reid: Ok, if I could beg your indulgence, I just talk about the consultant
work and then I have a time table laid -out. We expect the consultants to assist
us in designing the object of this study and the economic, environmental, social
and physical and to bring those objectives back to you to conduct a market
analysis. There needs to be a very sophisticated economic model constructed
in the project, develop a detail program in terms of land use or an urban design,
to identify capital facilities reauirements, what the City and the County might
have to do with respect to intrastructure, to identify funding sources- Community
Development monies, EDA monies, monies from the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation
possibly. New federal sources such as the joint development funds that the
President has talked about. State incentive funding or possibly a resurrection of
Title VII which is the New Town or new Community funding pot. And to develop
a detailed financing plan looking at the possibility of tax increment financing
and by that we mean in terms of the project area. At the time the redevelopment
plan is approved by you and the County Commission freezing the assessment base
and then using the increment as a property values increase in that are
to be plowed back into finance the land acquisition, site preparation improvement,
housing, whatever the program calls for in terms of making it a feasible project.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I have...
Mrs. Gordon: When I said the time element, I didn't mean the time for the
planning study. I meant from the completion of the planning study to begin
the actual acquisitions and development and this and that. I'm just trying to
get a mental picture whether this is ten years down the road or five or what?
Mr, Reid: Now, I think if the planning study proves to viable and feasible
and if it was approved by this Commission and redevelopment was authorized,
the financing plan was approved by you, that it would take six months to gear
up in terms of the you know, a detailed work plan for carrying out the project
and then you would immediately there go into land acquisition and into private
development, I think it will be a project that takes place over a period
of say ten years now,
Mrs. Gordon; No,
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Mr. Reid: But initially you could get into action in about eighteen months
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Mayor Ferret Alright t that t s what you toss look ,bg for,
Mrs. Gordon: That's what I was looking for, °Could 1 AftVision ten years dawn
the road a completed project?
Mr, Reid: No, it gou1d,.. Yes, but we are talking about after an accepted
development plan, probably eighteen months before you can get into details.
Mrs. Gordon: The first step, but I'm talking about the last step and you
gave me the answer.
Mr. Reid: The last step is ten years, perhaps fifteen as long as fifteen
and it depends on a lot of other factors.
Mrs. Gordon: Ok,
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this question. Have we been designated by the,.,
have we requested the County to designate us as the development agency on this?
Mr, Fosmoen: No, sir, we have not, Not yet. We have had a series..,
Mayor Ferre: Has the Downtown Development Authority requested that?
MY. Fosmoen: Not to the County Commission. Let me just brief you.
Mayor Ferre: Well, they are the ones who have the authority to do that.
Mr. Fosmoen: No, sir, they don't.
Mayor Ferre: Or our redevelopment agency?
Mr. Fosmoen: Whatever powers come to DDA, must come through this Commission.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not saying that. As you know the Metropolitan —Dade County
has the authority to be the redevelopment agency or to give that right out to
anybody they want. They gave it out in Miami Beach, in South Beach, to Miami Beach,
Now, I ktiu.a '-hat they have reluctance to do that with the City of Miami and
the whole ci=y. This is the project that we are going to fund for two hundred
thousand dollars. Now, I'm sure that that is a step that we need to take so
where along the line. I'm not saying that we should take it before we spend
the two hundred thousand dollars because that would slow down a very important
process, but I'm saying that we do need to do that and I'm asking you when it
is that we plan to ask.
Mr. Fosmoen: We will be come to this Commission with a recommended resolution
in your first meeting October And we have had a series of staff meetings, I
think t.Lat the staffs are in agreement. Mr. Kenzie, Mr. Adams, and myself
and other people who are involved in that redevelopment process, And our next
step is to come to you and achieve your concurrence and then go to the County
Commission and request certain redevelopment rights.
Mayor Ferre: We have a resolution that you have in this memorandum before us,
I assume you want us to pass this today?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now... I don't know if anybody has any other question, but I'm
ready to vote, but I want to just for the record, this has you recommendation?
Mr, Fosmoen: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: And Roy this has... Roy Kenzie of the Downtown Development Authority,
this has your recommendation? You both are in agreement? You think this is
an important step forward and I know that the Chamber is very excited about
this and this is a good project.
Rev, Gibson: Mr, Mayor, question,
Mayor Ferre: yes,
Rev. Gibson: I'm a little confused, which isitit Uhtisuai4 ate ate going td
spend two hundred thousand dollars?
Mr. Fosmoen: That's an estimate, sir,
Mayor Ferre: There is a resolution in back of that.
Rev. Gibson: Alright, I know, but you know, are sure the County ie
you see what
let us do it? DoI'm talking about?
Mayor Ferre: Well, suppose they don't. Now, the question then becomes is�if have
we wasted two hundred thousand dollars and
thisthe
isasomething thatin my iisoabsolutely
not wasted two hundred thousandbecausejust want to make sure
essential for the health of the Wlthre of this,rtifmthe County were to tell us today
that we have it scheduled along
that they were turning us down and that they wanted to be the development
agency, I wouldn't go fight them on that, but I wouldostill vote' "yes" Its nvthth
because I think this is a absolutely essetWantedal ep to do this ten years ago, we
due, we should have don't it... Bill Baggs
should have paid attention to Bill Baggs.
Rev. Gibson: Well, Mr. Mayor,
I'm not opposing, I just want to make sure that
our eyes are wide-open to the possibility..
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes.
Rev. Gibson: ... that you
disappointed".
Mayor Ferre: From a tactical point of view, let me put it this way.
I think
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for us to go spend this two hundred thousand dollars and ghassucertainrespo si ility
that this is a project that we are going guiden
put the County Commission in a very difficult
positthisiotyn tonturneusDdown.
I think
that that would be a real slap in the face
Development Authority and I frankly don't think they will do it. But I just
wanted to put it on record like you.
your strategy, but I want my eyes wide-open so that
Rev. Gibson: I want to buy es were open" and if they say
if I'm disappointed, I say "well, you know, my eyes
„no"...
know, so that we don't say later on "well, we are
Mayor Ferre: I agree.
I want you to know that I have made
Rev. Gibson: .. I want to be able toafter m•body.
up my mind in the other direction to goY
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I agree. Is there a motion then?
Mr. Plummer: I'll move it.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion, is there a second?
motion?
Rev. Gibson: I'll second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is aOsecond.
RECORD�er Moved and seconded seconds.
(THE MAYOR READ THE RESOLUTION INT
discussion, call the roll.
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The gaiiowing te$Qiutiof tag tOtoduted 1y coMmi,ssiOuet PiuMMO moved
ite adoptiott;
RESOLUTION No. 78-542
A RESOLUTION REPROGRAMMING $200,000 FRO'1 THE
MIAMI RIVERFRONT SPECIALTY CENTER (FOURTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS) TO A NEW PROJECT
ENTITLED NEW TOWN IN TOWN PLANNING: FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
TO SERVE AS PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE HIRING OF A
CONSULTANT TO CARRY OUT A PLANNING, MARKET
FEASIBILITY AND GENERAL DESIGN STUDY FOR THE
NEW TOWN IN TOWN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and On file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: < None,
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, again, Roy and Marty and...
Mr. Kenzie: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir.
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ION OF
7. CRANT ONE-YEAR OCK 7; MIRAMARX3RDSVARIANCE
LOTS
BLOCK
4), 1866N. BAYSHORE
DRIVE.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, it's 11 o'clock and we have an hour, I think that
perhaps we could get through early this afternoon if we work with diligence
here. Mr. Manager, would you guide us through as to what items we can now
take up?
Mr. Grassie: If we skip over Mr. Mayor, the items that involve personal
appearances and also ordinances and...
Mayor Ferre: Alright, sir.
Mr. Grassie:
... go to item 21, I believe that we could start there,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we could start with item 21, to grant a one-year
extension for Variance on Lets 1 and 4, Block 7, Miramar 3rd amended (5-4)
being 1866 North Bayshore, approved on March 20, 1978. Is there any problems
with that? I assume this has you recommendation?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson:
Mayor Ferre:
Rev. Gibson:
Mr, Grassie;
I think they said so,
It has the.,,
I move,
Yes, it does have the
administration's recommendation ,-
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tayot Ferre: Gibson troves, Gordon seconds# i5 thete further discussietri Oh
21, call the roll,
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson. Oleo ►died
it3 adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 78-543
A RESOLUTION GRANTING AN EXTENSION OF RESOLUTION
NO. ZB 61-78 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NO. ZB 104-
78, GRANTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE VARIANCE
AS LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO. 6871, ARTICLE X,
SECTIONS 5 AND 6, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF A
PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ELDERLY
(THE BAYSHORE CARLYLE HOUSING FOR THE ELDERLY),
ON LOTS 1 AND 4, BLOCK 7, MIRAMAR 3RD AMENDED (5-4),
BEING 1866 NORTH BAYSHORE DRIVE, AS PER PLANS,
BUILDING AND SITE DATA IN FILE, WITH 2.1 FLOOR AREA
RATIO (F.A.R.) (2.0 PERMITTED) AND 21.16% LOT
COVERAGE (19% PERMITTED), SUBJECT TO PUBLIC AREA WITHIN
BUILDING BEING OPEN DURING NORMAL HOURS; ZONED R-5
(HIGH DESNITY MULTIPLE) GRANTED BY ZONING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. ZB 104-78.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file:
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Gibson;
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8. APPOINT COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON CITY OF MIAMI DELEGATE
TO VOTE AT 52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE
OF CITIES.
Mayor Ferre: On 22, appointments to fill a vacancy. Well, that's going to
take some time I would imagine, so we will come back to 22. Item 23, appointment
of a City of Miami delegate to vote at the 52nd annual convention of the Florida
League of Cities.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon moves, that Mr. Plummer be appointed. Is there a
second?
Mr. Reboso: Second,
Mayor Ferre; Reboso seconds, further discussion on 22.,, oA, 23 excuse me,
call the roll.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute,
Mrs, Gordon; You can't do that?
p Mutter! No
Mrs. Gordon: No,
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, you can't vote, Oh,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Father Gibson moves, that Rose Gordon be the voting
Member and Reboso seconds, further discussion on the substitute amendment..+
Mrs. Gordon: You can't vote J, L.?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mrs. Gordon: Alright, ok.
Mayor Ferre: ... and Mr. Plummer, is the alternate. Any discussion ott the
substitute amendment now on the resolution of item 23, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-544
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING COMMISSION ROSE GORDON
AS THE CITY'S VOTING DELEGATE TO THE 2ND
ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF
CITIES TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 19, 20, AND 21,
1978 IN HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
in the Office of the City Clerk),
Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor Reboso, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Rebosc
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
9. RESCHEDULE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER
26, 1978 TO OCTOBER 24, 1978.
Mayor Ferre: On the question of rescheduling, we've got some problems,
First of all we got the Thanksgiving situation we've got to resolve and
then there is a problem regarding the schedule Commission on the 26th of
October and the idea is to make it on the 24th of October. Well, somebody
had a problem and I don't know who it was. Who was it?
Mrs. Gordon: The applicant.
Rev. Gibson: I didn't even.,,(Inaudible),
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: I think this has already been solved by the Manager's staff,
Is that right Bob?
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Mrs Pilifter: Which item is that?
Mayor Perre:
Mt. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
item 24?
This is 24?
Is Marie there?
Mr. Plummer: Christie, have I got any toftEliott Mare shouldn't be
Clerk, what was the number of the item on the Florida League?
Rev. Gibson: 23.
Mr. Plummer: 23.
Mr. Ongie: It will be 544.
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Ongie:
Mr. Plummer:
No, no, no, I mean the agenda
Oh, the agenda item is 23.
I got it. October 12th, is
12th, Columbus Day?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but that not...
Mr. Plummer: The 9th is...
Oh, ok, but it is the 12th,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I'm
the 23rd, but the 24th is a
a.
item number.
holiday, isn't it? Isn't OttrAer.
oh, they moved it to celebrate it on a Monday.
isn't it?
alright on the 24th and that's... I would prefer
cceptable.
Mr. Plummer: I'll move it.
Mayor Ferre: Does anybody have a problem with the 23rd?
Rev. Gibson: I'll be in Raleigh.
Mayor Ferre: You will be out. Alright, the 24th is fine. Ok, Rose,
24th. Alright, there is a motion by Plummer, seconded by Gibson that
October meeting that is scheduled on the 26th, be held on the 24th of
Tuesday. Is there further discussion? Well, let's do this one first
we will do November. Call the roll. Call the roll on 24, please.
the
the
October,
and then
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissionet piuminet, who bOVed
its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 78-545
A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY
COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 26, 1978 TO
TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 24, 1978.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
10. RECOMMEND APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON TO
THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I had a resolution prepared that I would like to
bring up at this time. And it read (MR. PLUMMER READ THE RESOLUTION INTO THE
RECORD).
Mayor Ferre Now, Rose is going to go... I want to tell you something.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell Rose something on the record.
Mr. Plummer: What?
(COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Plummer: Rose, last said you couldn't tell her, you dummy.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not going to tell you.
Mr. Plummer: Can I finish reading the resolution?
Mayor Ferre: Read it, read it. I want her to hear it.
Mr. Plummer: (CONTINUES READING RESOLUTION). And I move it Mr. Mayor.,
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion, and I hear a second.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a second by Father Gibson, further discussion, call the
roll, please.
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The following tesolution Was itittoduced by Coininissiohet Pit ffn eta Who thawed
itS adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 78-546
A RESOLUTION STRONGLY RECOMMENDING THE
APPOINTMENT OF CITY COMMISSIONER ROSE
GORDON BY GOVERNOR REUBIN ASKEW TO THE
FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION BECAUSE
OF HER OUTSTANDING RECORD OF ACHIEVEMENT
IN PUBLIC OFFICE AND HER UNQUESTIONED
INTEGRITY; AND FURTHER DIRECTING THE
CITY CLERK TO FORWARD A COPY OF THE HEREIN
RESOLUTION TO GOVERNOR ASKEW,
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Well, now... Where did Rose go?
Mr. Plummer: We are going to see how much guts you really have.
Rev. Gibson: He can do it.
Mayor Ferre: I mean, I don't have this opportunity to have fun that often.
Rose?
Mr. Plummer: She is in her office listening on the microphone-- on the speaker
system.
Mayor Ferre: Rose, stick your head in here. What I wanted to...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: No. What I wanted to tell you this morning which is why I wanted
to see you for a second is that, even though you and I have once and while had
differences, I really have a great deal of respect for you, I really do.
Mrs. Gordon: Thank you, Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: And I have a high regards for your dedication to the community
and if you are appointed and I'm sure you will be because I'm sure the Governor
would be out of his mind not to appoint somebody...
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, my God
MEM Mayor Ferre: Yes, you can quote me on that.
Mr. Plummer: Put that in a resolution.
Mayor Ferre: I think he would be very foolish not to appoint somebody with
your background and the fact that you represent South Florida and that you have
been an activist in health matters and senior citizen matters and in consumerism
activity, I think you would be a very, very fitting representative for this
community. And as I said you know, we don't always vote the same way and we
don't always agree on things. I'm going to miss you.
Mrs. Gordon; Oh, thank you,. 1 will come and visit with you.
y$O Petrel Arid Vith that X yote{►►
Mi's, Gordon; I hope I get it, but I don't know that its any kind of a
shoe in thing, but I do appreciate, really from the bottom of my heart,
the confidence that you have displayed by making this resolution and if I
do get it, I would do the best can to make you proud that you have passed
this resolution,
Mr. Plummer: Now, Rose, about my electric bill,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now base.,. wait a minute, I haven't voted, I Vote
"yes".
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, I didn't know that.
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11. DISCUSSION OF 2ND MEETING DATE IN NOVEMBER-DEFERRED.
r
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Ongie: 25
Mayor Ferre:
Rev. Gibson:
Mayor Ferre:
problems with
Mr. Plummer:
Ok. Now, we are on item II20,,,
...5, Abolishing the City of Miami,
I thought you also mentioned the November meeting.
Oh, I'm sorry, but you are right. Manolo are you having any
the November meeting? November 9th,
Well, how come we only have one meeting scheduled for November?
Mayor Ferre: Because Thanksgiving is on the 23rd which is the normal day
for us to have our meeting. What holiday is November loth?
Mr. Plummer: Huh?
Mayor Ferre: Oh, Veteran's Day. Alright,.
Mayor Ferre: Veteran's Day. It's a holiday.
When will we hold the second meeting?
Rev. Gibson: Yes,
Mayor Ferre: Now, I've got a problem... is that
country at lot in November and...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Ok. And my problem is personally, that
be able to come back from Europe in mid November.
Rev. Gibson: You will not.
Mayor Ferre: I will not be able or you know, if I have
I've got to come all the way from Europe to be here...
Mr. Plummer: When are you going, Maurice?
Mayor Ferre: I don't know because I don't,.,
Mr, Plummer: Approximately?
to make that meeting,
MEI
Mayor Verne t
that,
Veil a the ?resident o the ,lusted St4te$ i s go og to decide
Mr. Plummer; Is that permanent? One=way or two-way ticket?
Mayor Ferret You won't have to passe any resolutions for the recommending
ine to the President,
Mr. Plummer: He is going to be the sole distributor in Paris for Billy Beer,
Mayor Ferre: I just cannot,,, I will not know until I come back from Washington
next week.
Mr, Plummer; Well, lets leave it open until our next meeting,
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm just, you know, telling you on the record that l have.
a problem in the,,, in November,
Mr. Plummer: Fine, so we will deal with it at the next meeting,
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Can this Administration afford an ash tray instead of a pickle
dish?
Mayor Ferre: Of course, not.
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12. ABBOLISH CHARTER REVIEW BOARD g CREATE A CHARTER
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
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Mayor Ferre Alright, we are on item 25, Abolishing the City of Miami,
Are you ready to vote on the abolishing of the City of Miami's Charter
Review Board and creating a Charter Advisory Committee to be composed of the
City's Legal Staff, Administration and the General Public?
Mayor Ferre: You've all read the recommendations?
Mayor Ferre: Is everybody in agreement with it?,.
Mr. Plummer: Sure,
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Gibson seconds, further discussion on item 25,'
Alright, call the roll,
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The pliow ,ng l esoi.uti,on Vas introduced bpi ComMAssioner Plutftert toho *wed
Is adoption;
PESOLUTION NO, 78-547
A RESOLUTION ABOLISHING THE CITY OF MIAMI'S
CHARTER REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED
BY RESOLUTION 38699, MAY 24, 1967, AND CREA-
TING A CHARTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COMPOSED
OF SEVEN (7). MEMBERS, REPRESENTING THE CITY'S
LEGAL STAFF, THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION, AND
THE GENERAL PUBLIC, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INVES-
TIGATING HOW THE CITY CHARTER CAN BE MODERN-
IZED AND MODIFIED TO PROVIDE FOR MORE EFFICIENT
AND MORE RESPONSIVE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI'S AFFAIRS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
in the Office of the City Clerk),
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passedand;
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES; None,
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R, Gibson.
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Mayor Ferre: And Mr. Manager, since the Administration and the Legal Staff -
Mr. Knox?- are going to be active now in this new Advisory Committe, I really
think that the City of Miami Charter like most City Charters is really completely
obsolete. Now, I'm not saying that we have to rewrite our Constitution, but
you know, even the State does it every ten years and I think that we really
should start cleaning out all of this foolishness that we have in there about
the fact that all bars have to have windows and all that kind of stuff, you know,
those things are... that was fine during the days when wives had to go find
out if their husband was spending their money on Friday in the bars, but I
mean, you know, that's kind of...
Mr. Plummer: You know, I would have never thought of that.
Mayor Ferre: Ok? Did we vote on that?
Mr. Ongie; Yes, sir,
13. ENCOURAGE INVOLVEMENT AND COOPERATION IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF ECONOMIC POLICIES AND STRATEGIES.
Mayor Ferre; Alright, then we are on 26, encouraging involvement and cooperation
among all economic development entities in the Greater Miami Area, in the
development of economic policies and strategies. What exactly Mr. Manager,
is that all about?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr, Mayor, one of the things that the Federal Government insist
on when they look at funding for various economic development projects, is that
there is cooperation among the units of Government which are affected.
Mayor Ferre; Yes,
Mr. Fosmoen: We are simply trying to demonstrate to the Feds and the State,
that we are working together with Dade County, with Coral Gables and so forth,
on an overall economic strategy before
Mayor Ferre: Rose Gordon moves, Plummer seconds item 26, further discussion,
call the roll.
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The i'olloi itg tesoihtiot Wag ihttoduced by Commissioner Gotdott, who toned
it§ adaptiott:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-548
A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING INVOLVEMENT AND
COOPERATION AMONG ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOP-
MENT ENTITIES IN THE GREATER MIAMI AREA,
TO MAXIMIZE THE LIMITED RESOURCES AVAIL-
ABLE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ECONOMIC
POLICIES AND STRATEGIES WIIICH WILL IMPACT
UPON THE TOTAL GREATER MIAMI AREA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk) .
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr, Plummer, Rev,
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Reboso,
ON ROLL CALL:
Gibson,
and Mayor Ferre.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but I hope it becomes more than just a resolution you know,
recommending economic... development on economic policies because, you know,
I find it a sad commentary frankly, that for example, we have the International
Chamber of Commerce meetings coming up in Disney World, I guess it is and that
this community absolutely foundered around. You know, I haven't Exen our
super activist, negative Press talk too much about this one. But the Chamber
of Commerce is right smack in the middle of this, How in the world can this
community of a million and six hundred thousand people turn it's back and look
the other way when you have the President of the United States and God knows
how many Presidents of how many corporations and important people coming from
every where, from South America to Africa to Western Europe to Japan, coming
to this major event and we act almost as if it didn't exist. You know, the
Chamber of Commerce is going to greet people on their way coming through Miami.
Well, what makes the Chamber of Commerce so sure they are coming though Miami,
you know. Haven't they heard about New York and other places of entry? The
people may not be coming through Miami and I'm not saying that, you know, that...
it's just a sad commentary to me on the question of economic development, that
we are very good in this town about complaining, but when it comes time to
do things and get things done, we are awfully good about not getting it done.
Now, I know that Roy Kenzie, has done something and the City of Miami is doing
something and I know that the Chamber of Commerce is also cooperating, but you
know, Roy had to... and you and all of you had to really spend a lot of time
putting it together and I just think it's unbelievable. And then we sit around
and complain and we have yearly gatherings at Boca Raton about... and then what
Miami Herald reports on is all the negative stuff or what everybody said that
was bad you know, about the terrible image of Miami and then we worry about
why we have a bad image.
Mr. Fosmoen: Maybe it's just the point of information for the other Commissioners.
I know that you know what DDA and the City is doing, but we are jointly sponsoring
with the County, DDA, our Office of Trade and Commerce Development a villa
at your Disney World and there are about 26 of them-- 20 of them available. We
are putting together a major presentation for that International Chamber of Commerce
meeting and DDA is taking the lead. That's one of the things that we are
doing Mr, Mayor. The Chamber as you know, is...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, that's super Dick, but you know, when is that going to happen?
October what? Pr September what? What's the date?
Mr, Fosmoen: It's coming up the first week in October,
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, you know, here we are in our September meeting
on the 14th, you know, It seems to we that you know, some times Rose Gordon
is a little bit tough, but when she wants to put on the charm, she can just
charm anybody to death and you've got people here who are super salesman,
Theodore Gibson, Manolo Reboso, Plummer, How can we have something,,,
Rev, Gibsons What about the Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Well, and the Mayor, too, How are we going to have something
39 SEP 141978
lke this before the City is inVolVed in it? have you been toad about it?
DO you know anything about it? No, come on. Now, talking about economic
development, I think that you know, charity begins a home or God helps those
who helps themselves and if we are doing this shouldn't we be involved in it
and shouldn't there be communication here and shouldn't we have the... and
that's a three... we are going to have a pavillion, we are going to have a
pavillion, not a house or whatever they call it, at Buena Vista Lake for
three days. Now, I can't be there for three days... and to me frankly, its
a sacrifice. I don't want to go back to Disney World, but I will go up there
for one day, but I think each of us should be involved. Now, in_trying to
be there to greet or present the best face possible for the City of Miami,..
Mr. Grassie: Would that be possible, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Of course, it's possible, but you got to ask, if you want tne:
to dance, you got to ask me, you know.
Mr. Grassie: Well, we want to ask you.
Mayor Ferre: Well, ok and the answer is "yes",
Mr. Grassie: Alright, if you would have the time and if that
you would consider doing, we would be delighted.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: What are the dates? What is the time on that?
Mr. Fosmoen: I believe Commissioner, it's the 2nd, 3rd and the
I will get you the specific dates this afternoon.
4th
of October.
Mayor Ferre: Well, as I understand it, we are going to have a house or what
have you and...
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: ... I assume that, that's all been properly.., you know and
figured up and we will have literature information. Let's not have a follow
me to Miami speech. I mean, I hope we have some brochures and things that are
meaningful. Well, ok, anything else?
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14. APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR
OLDEN JAMES, DEPT. OF SOLID WASTE.
Mayor Ferre: 27, approving a one year extension of the employment of Olden
James.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't know Mr
drop on this thing, I sure hope that Mr.
working because of problems not incurred
saddled with a job that is for a younger
what I'm saying?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, you don't want to
. James, but if you read the back
James at 70 years of age who is
by himself, is surely not being
man. I hope this man is... you know
Mr. Plummer: I don't think this man should be required to be a toter. He is
70 years of age and he is working because he didn't have the availability
of a pension when he was younger and that's the only reason he is working,
I want to approve it, but I would sure hate to come back and be told that this
man is being put to great physical labor at 70 years of age. Now, I'm not
dictating policy, but,,,
Mayor Ferre: He is probably stronger than you are,
Mt, t'lummert ..i you know,,, that's not hard to do. I teed that hetno4 the
backup memo and I just want to tell you that a man of 70 years of age, I
admire him, but I think the real reason and the underlined thing is, is he
has got to work to eat and he wants to that rather than looking for hand outs
and I just hope that we handle this situation in the contrast.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, would you ask somebody to look into that and make
sure that, that's...
Mr. Grassie: We can do it specifically, but I can tell you that the department
is very sensitive with that sort of thing. There is a lot of people that,..
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves: Gibson seconds, further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved`
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 78-549
A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION
OF EMPLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF 70 YEARS FOR OLDEN
JAMES, WASTE COLLECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE
DEPARTMENT EFFECTIVE JULY 3, 1978 THROUGH JULY 2, 1979
WITH PROVISION THAT IN THE EVENT OF A ROLLBACK OR
LAYOFF, OLDEN JAMES, RATHER THAN A JUNIOR EMPLOYEE,
WOULD BE AFFECTED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file';.
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon. Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, and Mayor Ferre.
NOES; None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Reboso.
15. AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH MCDONNELL DOUGLAS AUTOMATION
COMPANY TO IMPLEMENT WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION AND
LIABILITY SYSTEM, ALLOCATE $30,000 FROM INSURANCE
FUND.
Mayor Ferre: On item 28, authorizing the Manager to enter into a one-year
contract with McDonnell Douglas Automation Company to implement a Workmen's
Compensation and Liability System and allocating the sum of $30,000 for the
Insurance Fund.
Mr. Plummer: I want to know if I spend this money, how it's going to save
me money. Mr. Gunderson, I assume you are the one to speak to it.
Mr. Grassie: Yes, he could describe the system for you, Commissioner.
Mr. Gunderson: Honorable Members of the Commission, the system at the present
time that we have is what we call the seat of the pants approach. As the reports
that are reflected in conjunction with the contract with McDonnell Douglas,
this will provide us with the ability to be able to identify accidents and
injuries by location, by age, by type, by sex, by cause, all of these things
at the present time are not available to us because our manual-- needs in order
to provide such a system would require a clerical course of two or three additional
people just to handle the sorting of this kind of thing. As a result, we do
not at the present have this kind of information available to us. We have a need
to develop a safety program, a safety coordinator is already aboard. The
information that he has is zero because it's all on the files and we can't
get it off unless we result to having some clerical people in order to make
these kinds of sorts on those kinds of basis. So, the real savings here
come from the offset against clerical courses that we would need and also
41 SEP 141978
provides us the information upon which We Can Love in the fututdi '.
Mrs Plummer: But that sounds like garbage in, garbage out,
Mr. Gunderson: Well, it is if you don't use it. At the present tune we have
do way of using it because it's not available to us.
Mt. Plummer: But I don't see where it's necessary, I really don't. I would
rather take the $30,000 and teach defensive driving. I mean, you know? to
me truthfully, from what I'm looking at and if I'm wrong, please correct,
But to me you are looking to history, I don't want to hear history, I want
the money to be spent in preventing these accidents in the future.
Mr. Gunderson: What we do though see, is if we don't learn by history we
will be doomed to repeat it and unfortunately we don't know what the history
is, so we are continually repeating it. That's our problem.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you know? I'm going to tell you, to me you are way off
base, you really are, you know. When I know of a system that exist. for
example, within the Police Department, they have an accident review board.
They are the only department in this City that have such. Yet we find that
the State Law provides that any accident under a hundred dollars you don't
even have to report unless there is an injury. But, yet we take all of this
time to go through this process in the Police Department of an accident review
board if it's a ten dollar damage. Now, to me that is a total waste of money,
Mr, Gunderson: But we have a.,. you are presently spending close to $3,000.000
annually for your Workmen's Compensation Program. $3,000,000. We,..
Mr. Plummer: But there is reasons for that.
Mr. Gunderson: I'm sure there are.
Mr. Grassie: And most of them are not very good,
Mr. Plummer: I agree.
Mr, Gunderson: And the problem is, is we do not have a reporting system that
gives us a handle on that kind of an operation and that kind of cost involved,
As a result we are in a hard pressed situation of trying to improve it. Until
we know what it's doing, we are not going to be able to provide the improvements.
Mr. Plummer: I think it's a waste of money. Mr. Mayor, I want to defer 29,
I want to know more about it. I really do. Now, somebody has got to set me
down and show me where it's money well spent, because I don't see it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves that item #28 be deferred,
Mr, Plummer: 29.
Mayor Ferre: No, we are on 28,
Mr, Plummer: I'm sorry, 28 is correct.
Mayor Ferre: Until the next meeting?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, as long as somebody will get with me of the department
and tell me exactly where,..
Mayor Ferre: Alright, until the next meeting and Gordon seconds, further
discussion, call the roll,
tHti.UPoN THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER ITtM No. 28
t6 the neict commission meeting was introduced by
Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner
Gordon, and was passed and adopted by unanimous vote,
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16. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH DADE HERITAGE TRUST INC. & AGREEMENT FOR THE
RELOCATION, ANCH0 U NG & REPAIR OF WAGNER HOMESTEAD
PROPERTY, ALLOCATE $40,000 FROM 3RD YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.
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Mayor Ferre: Item 29, is authorizing the Manager to enter into a lease agreement
between the City and Dade Heritage Trust and an agreement for the relocation,
anchoring and repair of Wagner Homestead property, allocating $40,000 from the
3rd Year Community Development Funds. Dena?
Ms. Spillman: What we are asking you today really are two things. Number one,
is to allow Dade Heritage Trust who currently owns the Wagner Homestead which is
the oldest house in Dade County to relocate it into Lummus Park and to lease a
very small site in Lummus Park from the City for a dollar a year.
Mayo, Ferre: Well, where exactly because we have several old houses there already?
I mean, I don't want to be derogatory about this.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Ms. Spillman: This is Fort Dallas, which is currently there and what was...
Mayor Ferre: That's a pretty old building.
Ms. Spillman: Yes, it's another historic structure and we are suggesting
that the Wagner Homestead be placed here and it becomes generally a historic
site. We want to add seven parking places and here is the existing recreation
pavillion.
Mayor Ferre: I have an idea for you Dena. We are going to be faced, I think
very soon with another one of these with Ray Butler, ok, you know what I'm
talking about. We are going to need that property probably for our Convention
Conference Center and that's going to be required and we are going to have to
find a location for that. I really think... and I'm not trying to say that
we ought to create a Williamburg out of Lummus Park, but since that trend
is... since we are going that way it may not be a bad idea to kind of plan it
and study just to how exactly we approach it.
Mr. Plummer: So, what are you suggesting, we defer this?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: I'm saying that we ought to approve it, but I also am saying
that we should be planning ahead because we are going to have these problems
every so often of some-- of the Dade Heritage Trust or somebody, some building,
some property that we want to save which is the oldest building in Miami and
what have you. And instead of doing it helter skelter, we might make a very
attractive place and I'm not saying that it be...
Mrs. Gordon: It could become an historical village.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I'm saying that all of the sudden that we try to compete
with Williamsburg, but I'm saying that, why not, why shouldn't we put together
these older historic buildings that we want to save and have a place in
Miami where they are all together? And why not there where the... What was
the name of that fort?
Ms. Spillman: Fort Dallas Barracks.
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Myer Vette : Port Dallas Eartacks, ok t That / e all,
Mrs. Gordon: Itt other words what you are asking for Maurice,
Mayor Ferre: Right,
Ls A tatter p1Ah, f
Mrs. Gordon: .,. that would provide for additional structures to be placed
there and I think that's a good idea, That's the proper way to do it,
Mr, Plummer: That's beyond item 29.
Mrs, Gordon: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Do you want to call the-- run the meeting?
Mr. Plummer: I'll move 29.
Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mr. Reboso: Ok, we have the motion and a second, Commissioner Cordon sec -midst
any further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, taho moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO, 78-550
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACHED LEASE AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND DADE HERITAGE TRUST
INCORPORATED: FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT WITH DADE
HERITAGE TRUST INCORPORATED FOR THE RELOCATION,
ANCHORING AND REPAIR OF THE WAGNER HOMESTEAD
PROPERTY TO THE LITMUS PARK SITE AND ALLOCATING
$40,000 FROM THIRD YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS
FOR THIS ACTIVITY.
(Here follows body of resolution? omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk),
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre
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17. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH
SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM & SENIOR
AIDES PROGRAM OF DADE COUNTY.
Mr. Plummer: Iimove 30, with pleasure.
Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mr, Reboso: Ok, item 30 has been moved and seconded, any further discussion,
call the roll, please.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-551
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH SENIOR COMMUNITY
SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND SENIOR AIDES
PROGRAM OF DADE COUNTY FOR THE COORDINATION OF
SERVICES SUBSTANTIALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED
AGREEMENT; WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED THROUGH
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GENERAL BUDGET AND THE
FIRE FIGHTERS BOND FUND, NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.
(Here Follows body of resolution, omitted here and
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Plummer, Rev. Gibson, and Vice -Mayor Reboso
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Ferre
18. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE HIGHLAND PARK
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROPERTY AT A PRICE OF $100,000;
ALLOCATE $40,000 FROM 4TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FUNDS FOR DEMOLITION & REMOVAL OF EXISTING BUILDINGS.
Mr. Reboso:
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Reboso:
Mr. Grassie:
not they are
know.
Mr. Plummer:
Rev. Gibson:
31.
Does the School Board own us any money?
Yes,...
I would have to check the record Connissioner to see whether or
current with the School Resource Office Program. I just don't
Well, you know,...
Oh, no they owe us the money.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's the point I'm trying to
them very hard pressed Mr. Grassie,...
SEP 14.1978
i
11 When we turned our Water System over to Dade County at no cost
11
WhichBaas approximated at about $400,000,000 investment and it was the strong
IIselling point was that well look it's taxpayers money so don't charge the
County anything for the Water & Sewer Authority just give it to them because
MI
MI they're going to put it to good use. Now, you know, the same dollars that we
IIoperate on come from the same people that the School Board operate on. And,
IISecondly, the School Board, I think owes us some dollars. And, the School
Board is going to be coming back here knocking on our door I'm sure when we get
down to the budget crunch for After School and Community School and all of that
il and, I just find it very, very difficult to digest that we got to pay them
dollars when they owe us dollars that sounds like Metropolitan Dade County thank
. you we owe you. Well, we can't afford that no more. We couldn't afford it in
II the beginning but now there's no way we can afford it. I think a little bit
NM more discussion needs to be done on this to convince the County that it's no
m more than what we did for the Water & Sewer, that this is a matter of a transfer
11 from one public agency to another to serve the same public that paid that bill.
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Mrs. Gordon: My question also is as to the established price, was that established
by 'ay of an appraisal?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, ma'am.
Mrs. Gordon: ;lore than one appraisal was obtained?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, ma'am. Let me give you just a little background on this issue.
I appreciate what you're saying Commissioner. The Board of Education declared
this property a surplus. They took appraisals or they asked for appraisals and
they put the property on the open market. They had $100,000 bid on the piece
of property. Now, the bidder, who's proposing to construct a paint store on this
site. The property is directly across the street from the Highland Park Rapid
TranFit Site. Our concern and we're very intensively involved in doing redevelop-
ment planning around those transit sites. Our concern was that the Board not
sell that property to a private developer until adequate development controls
have been put together so that he doesn't mess up what is a key parcel property
with respect tr joint development, rapid transit development in that entire
community. It's a key piece of property. We could end up if they simply transferred
to a private developer now with a real piece of junk and lose major opportunities
for re-devclopment around that site. Now, my point is that we don't have in the
short run really any control over what the Board of Education does but we feel
it's necessary ...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, we do. Oh, no, no, wait a minute, whoa! That's where you're
dropping the ball.
Mr. Fosmoen: ... that they be... we can rezone the property.
W. Plummer: They owe us money... if they owe us money I
Mr. Fosmoen: Commissioner, we can't prevent them...
Mayor Ferre: We want to buy they don't want to sell it.,
Mr. Fosmoen: We want to buy it.
Rev. Gibson: But isn't it true , Mr. Fosmoen, you know, I hear this kind of
thing and it bothers me ever since I've been on the Commission, whenever we want
something we go pay through the nose. Now, ... two things bothers me. ...
Mr. Plummer: Are you buying or selling?
W. Plummer: ... Number one, if they owe us and I remember that ion and something
you remember Dr. Sheppard and those coming here, and they owed us? I think we ought
to say to them, okay, fine, we want to buy but we want you to pax us.
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Mt. Fosmoen: Commiss.ionet, out objective is to keep the property in pubic
ownerships If we make them that offer they can s4inply turn atound and sell it
to a private individual. They can continue to owe us some money,, They can say
thank you very much ...
Rev. Gibson: But Mr. Fosmoen, let me tell you what you're not hearing: That
isn't going to happen man; You mean to tell the that the School Board is going to
do that to us and owes us?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes. Yes., sir.
Rev. Gibson: I'll tell you what, okay, Mr. Mayor; I want you to hear this.
You remember when that woman came here asking us about the Edison High School?
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes!
Rev. Gibson: You know, this staff just amazes me. We need to operate from a
position of strength and stop being a bunch of weaklings!
Mr. Plummer: No, we don't need to operate from a position of strength we need,.
to operate from a spirit of cooperation.
Rev. Gibson: Right! Or something, man, this is ridiculous!
Mrs. Gordon: I need to get some more information.
Rev. Gibson: Man, ...
Mr. Plummer: I don't need anymore cooperation. I think that the Mayor; ought
go down to the School Board and remind them of a little history.
Rev. Gibson: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Now, you know in all fairness. You know that's the old story
you're buying or you're selling.
Mr. Fosmoen: The price we offered was exactly the price that was offered privately.
Mr. Plummer: Dick, do you recall when we talked about the police station?
There was a resolution put on top of this table when it was up for possible
sale to the public that that building not be done anything with until it was
discounted first that no City use could exist. Second, that no public use could
exist before it goes to a private developer. Now, you know, what are we talking
about a little adverse publicity I guess is what we're talking about, and I have
to tell you I don't think that the School Board would want to be painted into a
picture that they chose to go to private development and deprive the people of
Culmer the right to have an administration building in that neighborhood. Now,
I'm going to tell you I'm tired of thanks we owe you. We can no longer afford
to be their cousins and I'll tell you I'm not ready to approve it until we've
at least made a stab at it. Let's see how good or how bad guys they are. Because
they're going to be coming around next month, I'm sure. I make a motion that the
Mayor be empowered to appear before the School Board and plead our poverty case
and try to make them a little understanding that we both serve the public and that
this facility that is in question is for the public good.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I'd be happy to do that. Mr. Manager, do you have any other
things you want to add to this?
Mr. Grassie: No, we'd be delighted if that can be achieved,
Mayor Ferre: Well, we don't know whether ...
Mr. Plummer: You don't know if you don't try.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we don't know until we try. Alright, so I guess item 31 is
that the City of Miami Commission taking an attitude of reminding the School
Board of previous history in our relationship in our generosity in the past and
how this is a matter of public service to the community...
Mr. Plummer: The same dollars supports them support us.
Mayor Ferre: And, I'll be happy to represent the Commission in that occasion,
And, I'll ask the Manager, in fact I'll invite any of you that want to come with
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he to go down at that time. Ca11 the toll on 31.,
Mr. Grassie.: Just as. a point of information Mr., Mayon indicated to you
that I didn't know whether the School Board has. paid., We.iye.just checked the
record. They have paid $175,00n for this year for the School Resource Officer
Program.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine. Now, answer the question, do they owe us any money
that's this year? What about past years?
Mayor Ferre: Yes,, they owe us some money.
Mr, Plummer: You're damn right they do.
Rev, Gibson: Sure.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)'
Mr. Plummer: Yes, we negotiated it out► Wetook. the. zilch.,'
Mayor Ferre: N.,W. 7th have you got a .... let me get the map..
Mr. Plummer: What 7th Avenue? It's right on the. corner Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: It's right on the corner Maurice.
Mr. Plummer: Directly across the street from all of thenew projects of the
townhouses. The school is a disgrace as it stands there today. It looks like
a ghost town.
Mayor Ferre: What would the City do with that park. itself? That's where
Rapid Transit is going isn't it?
Mr. Plummer: Across the street.
Mr. Fosmoen: I have a map Commissioner....
Mayor Ferre: No, it's in our packet. We have the map in our packet. The question
to you is what are we going to do with that plot?
Mr. Fosmoen: We would hold that property and my recommendation would be that
at some point we assemble other properties and sell it as a redevelopment parcel.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, okay. Alright, well, let's go talkto the School Board and
then you could always put it back on the agenda.
Mrs. Gordon: What's the motion then?
Mr. Ongie: We haven't voted yet Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: The motion has already been made is that we state our position to
the School Board and go down there an represent our position and I will advise
you when I can go down there so you can join me. If the Manager will take ...
the staff would have... yes, and just get us on the agenda and let my office know.
on that.
Mr. Plummer: And I think also it behooves the staff to prepare the material of
history ...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer; ... for the Mayor's presentation.
Mayor Ferre; Okay.
Rev. Gibson; And, maybe Mr. Mayor, we ought to instruct the Manager to notify the
School Board that we're interested so that they will not sell.
Mayor Ferre; Right. Okay.
Mr. Grassie; We have done that Commissioner.
Mayor Ferre; Call the roll, please.
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ON ROLL CALL
*Mt. Plummer; We11, the. Motion is to defer 31►,
Mayor Ferre: No, the motion goes beyond that., it goeSr.s
Mr, Plummer: Well, first it's to defer 31, and then...
Mayor Ferre: And states a policy and...
Mr, Plummer: I vote yes.
The following motion was introduced by Commissionet'Mutter , tho
its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-552
A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORIZATION
TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE PURCHASE OF HIGHLAND
PARK FT,F,MFNTARV Cr14n01, PRf1PFPTV ITNTTT, AU
APPEARANCE BY THE MAYOR AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
CITY COMMISSION IS ARRANGED FOR TO APPEAR BEFORE
THE DADE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO DISCUSS THE USE OF
THE AFORESAID PROPERTY FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
19. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - LORENZO COLLI AND DIANA COLLI
Mayor Ferre: Item 32, authorizing the Director of Finance to pay Lorenzo Colli
and Diana Colli $10,000. City Attorney recommends.
Mr.Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson seconds 32. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 78-553
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
TO PAY TO LORENZO COLLI AND DIANA COLLI, HIS WIFE,
THE SUM OF $10,000.00 UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS
AGREED UPON IN FULL AND COMPLETE SATISFACTION AS TO
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND MIAMI POLICE OFFICER
LAURA MAY, FOR ALL CLAIMS, DEMANDS, DAMAGES, COSTS,
EXPENSES, LOSS OF SERVICES, ACTIONS AND CAUSES OF
ACTIONS, ARISING FROM ANY ACT OR OCCURENCE UP TO THE
PRESENT TIME, AND PARTICULARLY ON ACCOUNT OF ALL
PERSONAL INJURY, DISABILITY, LOSS OR DAMAGES WHICH
OCCURRED AS CONSEQUENCE OF AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT
WHICH OCCURRED ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 13, 1975.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson; the testilUtibfi
iaaaed and adopted by the. following vote.:
ASS; Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
20. CLAIM SETTLEMENT - SALOMON CASTILLO & ISABEL CASTILLO
Mayor Ferre: Item 33 authorizes the Director of Finance to pay Salomon Castillo
and Isabel Castillo $6,000, City Attorney recommends.
Rev. Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson. Seconded by Plummer. Further discussion. Call
the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commiss.ioner(Rev.) Gibson, who
moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 78-554
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
TO PAY TO SALOMON CASTILLO AND ISABEL CASTILLO,
WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF
$6,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL
BODILY INJURY, LOSS OF USE, AND PROPERTY DAMAGE
CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, UPON
THE EXECUTION OF A RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY OF
MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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21. RATIFY -ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN ACCEPTING BID &
AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF SEVEN AUTOMOBILES FOR
DEPT. OF POLICE JUVENILE OFFENDER DIVERSIONARY PROJ
Mayor Ferre: Item 34 authorizes the Manager to purchase seven automobiles
from the Northside Motors for $34,923 for the Police Juvenile Offender
Diversionary Project. Rose Gordon moves that and Plummer seconds it. Further
discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved
its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 78-555
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTIONS
OF THE CITY MANAGER IN ACCEPTING THE BID AND
AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF SEVEN AUTOMOBILES FROM
NORTHSIDE MOTORS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $34,923.00,
TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE JUVENILE
OFFENDER DIVERSIONARY PROJECT, WITH FUNDS THEREFORE
EXPENDED FROM LEAA GRANT FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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22. PROPOSED BID ACCEPTANCE - ANDY FRAIN OF FLORIDA,
FOR SECURITY PERSONNEL AT THE ORANGE BOWL -DEFERRED
Mayor Ferre: Item 35 accepts the bid of Andy Frain of Florida,Inc. for furnishing
security personnel at the rate of $7.50 per hour for the Orange Bowl and authorizing
the City Manager to enter into an agreement between the City of Miami and Andy
Frain of Florida, Inc. City Manager recommends. Mr. Manager?
Mr. Grassie: This is proposed so that the City can fulfill its obligations in
providing security forces for the Orange Bowl Mr. Mayor and members of the City
Commission and we recommend it for your approval. It gives the Department
Director the latitude to determine how many of these people he would need at one
performance.
Mayor Ferre: Since Don March is standing at the microphone why don't you save us
some time and... I'm going to recognize you in a moment Don but why don't you
address yourself as to how you approach this vis-a-vis the City of Miami Police
Department and why it couldn't be worked out with off -duty policeman.
Mr. Grassie: Well, if you would like for me to review the whole history...
Mayor Ferre: No, not the whole, just give us the conclusion.
Mr. Grassie: The conclusion simply is this, the department, Mr. Jennings and
representatives of the police union had some extensive discussions a basis on
which we would be able to use police officers for the Orange Bowl game. What we
attempted to do was to arrive at a $10.00 per hour figure, flat fee to pay for
police services because frankly our preference was to have our own police department
personnel at the games. Those negotiations at one point appeared to be an agreement
reached between the police representatives and the department. When that question
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was taken back to the membership of the F.O.P. our understanding is that an
additional clause not negotiated with the. department was_inserted into the
question and that clause stated that if at any time beer were. served in the.
Orange Bowl that then the whole question of the $10.00 fee would be renegotiated
that of course, was a surprise to the department and basically at that point
although, there were many meetings after that the agreement broke down.. Now,
the Police Chief has been involved in this. The Department has been involved.
Representatives of the Police Officers have been involved.. It'.s really gone
on for weeks. At this point, we don't see any modification of the position of
the F.O.P. and basically what we're resigned to is the fact that we're going to
have to use some private security people. Very briefly, that is if the. department
is in a position (the Police Department) is in a position to make this kind of an
agreement work between the Police Officers that they would provide and the security
people that would be secured for this kind of an agreement and it's not where we
want it to end up but it's a very workable kind of an arangement.. -
Mayor Ferre: March?
Lt. March: Mr. Mayor, thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. I'm
Don March, President of Walter Headly, Jr. Miami Lodge #20., Fraternal Order of
Police, representing approximately 700 Miami Police Officers., I have before me
a rather large file. In fact, this is the largest one that I think I've had to
carry in some 19 months of representing Miami Police Officers. It represents, a
lot of work on my part and a lot of time spent and I know your time is valuable
and I can't go through this entire process but I would like to outline some of
the highlights. In the deterioration of the (if you can call them negotiations),
the negotiations we had with the City it was an opportunity for the press to get
ived. They asked them questions and I'm not so sure that the issue was fair
enoegh for them because I was somewhat disturbed a little by the coverage. Time
and time again when public employees get involved in anything with government
lat"ly it has a tendency to boil down to a pay issue, a dollar issue and we get
preceived as someone who's seeking more money. Now, I'm disturbed as a general
c.rend I see it around the country. I see breakdowns and discussions with
public employees around the country that are not always for that reason. Memphis
there was a lot more to that than just a pay issue but that was what's left in
the minds of all those who read the press. Miami Police Officers were paid at the
rate of time and a half to work the Orange Bowl since 1975. I have here memo's
that showtd how this thing developed. I have some interesting comments . I will
pour some of them out for you. November 19th, a memo from Mr. Jennings, it says,
I will call for your attention the fact that in the vast majority of cases in the
National Foothill League teams pay the security forces and not (and not was
underlined) stadium. I would hope that was when the Dolphins contract is
renegotiated in 1975 and 1976 we will consider shifting this expense to them. I
have with me the agreement with the Dolphins., it was dated 8 June 1977 in which
that request and that indication by Mr. Jennings was not -tarried forth.The burden
and cost of the expense of security is not borne by the team . In discussing this
I als.o have a memo here where Wackenhut... after we were paid time and a half
for a period of time it was there was a fair labor standard acts provision,there
wasconcern about paying Police Sergeants time and a half additional money or
whatever they cut back the work force. A memo from Jennings dated September 10,
1975 we uill apparently have about a 50% increase in our police event payroll
cost and the only immediate recourse that I can see is to offset it as much as
possible by reduction of numbers. I recognize that there are certain risks
inherent in that approach perhaps by next season an entirely new approach to
provision or payment of security personnel can be developed. The new approach
that was, developed from the contract;on the day of each scheduled game the City
shall provide properly qualified security forces as determined by the City's
Police Department in addition to the security personnel provided under paragraphs
and it cites a couple of paragraphs, properly authorizes and qualified traffic
control personnel. It says that it's determined by the City Police Department.
Mr. Jennings sent a letter in January of 78 to Wackenhut inviting them to renew
their contract, exercise their second year option to provide security service to
the Orange Bowl. Wackenhut replied dated January 12, 1978 says no, unless the
rate goes up. There was a return letter dated January 26th, it says that due to
fact that there was a bid procedure involved,there are other bidders, it would be
unfair to unilaterally go to one bidder and increase the price... of all the
things that I've seen this to me is the one thing that I do agree with. I think
that that letter was sent was in the best interest to the community. Now, four
months transpired, this was dated January 26th, four months transpired in May,
May 24th I was invited to attend the meeting Chief Doherty's Office with Mr. Jennings
and Mr. Roach and also present were a couple of other command level police officers
from the department, From May 24th to June 28th, we involved... now that's a
period of one month, we involved ourselves in a series of discussions as to what
to do about the security problem. In the initial meeting the indication was that
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Mt. Jennings preferted to use Miami Police Officers in the stadium to provide
security rather than to useless qualified privatesecurity individuals.
He also indicated however, that there was inability to pay, that they could
not afford to staff the stadium with off -duty Miami Police Officers and pay
them at the rate of time and a half which they were at that time receiving, This
is something that was unfortunately lost on some members of the press. Miami
Police Officers were receiving time and a half. What they did was say would you
reconsider taking a pay cut? And, I said, you know, there's an awful lot of
things going on here in this City and there's an awful lot of disturbed
employees and to turn around and ask them to take this thing ontop of all these
other things it's going to be a difficult situation. I says, what I'm going to
have to do is to give them some compelling reasons for wanting to take this pay
cut. The concern that Miami Police Officers have with private security
individuals being involved providing security in the stadium was an officer
safety consideration, a fan safety consideration, a team security and field
security and a facility security consideration. How many times have you watched
football on t.v. and how many times have you seen the field inundated with people
rampaging? Just remember Reggie Jackson when he tried to run off the field after
the world series and some of the things that we saw, how do you see that kind of
thing? And, stadiums throughout the country? I think you see less of that
activity in our stadium just about any place I've ever been personally, and I
attribute that to the quality of Miami Police Officer that we've had for some-
time here and the fact that they're in a position to handle these kind of
situations,they're industrious and they're used to the close combat over there
whatever that it takes in keeping somebody from running from the stadium onto
the field. One of the things that I said would be important for us would be a
guarantee as to the number of police officers that we would have in the stadium.
This was not met warmly by members of the police administration because they
didn't want us... there was resistence on the part of some to the organization
in anyway mandating the number of police officers with staff and Orange Bowl.
Another thing that I felt that was important would be a guarantee of the minimum
number of hours that officers would be compensated for. It's not an uncommon
thing to ask for, and that was not met with much resistence because in the past
before we went to time and a half Miami Police Officers were guaranteed payment
for a minimum number of hours regardless of how many hours they worked. In
conjunction with that there was a provision that the off -duty pay rate for
Miami. Police Officers would go up when they worked off -duty jobs in the community.
I scheduled hearings. I listen to the people and there was a lot of resistence
because the City initially would not agree to the minimum number of police officers
who work the ball game. I originally scheduled a vote but it was quite apparent
that the thing was not going to pass. There was a very vocal opposition that
also a perception on my part of opposition in strong numbers I went back and I
said look, no sense in talking about it unless you're going to give consideration
to minimum staffing levels. With that in mind Mr. Jennings and Mr. Roach, and
I think in conjunction with the Police Department assessed the usuage of Miami
Police Officers and security personnel in the past came up with some kind of
relationship between attendance and projected attendanceand number of police
officers that would be needed and did in fact furnish me with a series of minimum
staffing levels. I looked at them and I said you know, that's not as many police
officers as we had in the past but it's a lot more than we have right now. I
felt it would be better to increase the number of police officers in the stadium
rather than have security guards, and quite frankly they're not as prone to get
involved in situations that are in the best interest of security because of the
danger involved we're just accustomed to that it's a matter of routine for us.
I recommended '.:he membership. I said it's the first step, it's an important
step we'll go ahead and live with it. We talked a little bit about it and I
changed the staffing level somewhat. Throughout this thing there was an under-
standing that if we did not reach agreement, this was from the very first day I
said if we do not reach agreement then conditions are as is. There was also an
indication on my part I said look, in the event that we don't reach agreement
you make sure that you've got this private security thing off the ground. You
make sure that you've got your feelers out, and the preception on my part was
that the City understood both those points. I took my recommendation to the
Executive Board we had a long discussion and I said ok, it's a pay cut there's
going to more police officers, there's be more money accruing the Miami Police
Officers we'll recommend it to the membership and see what they do, that's with
the ability to pay the issue in mind. On Wednesday, prior to taking this
recommendation to the regular membership at an assembled meeting published was a
quote attrituded to Mr. Grassie estimating the revenues from the Sale of Beer
in the Orange Bowl being the neighborhood of $250,000 to $300,000, subsequent
to that at a later date, Mr. Plummer published a report estimating the potential
even higher and we all are very familiar with this beer thing. I'm not trying
to resurrect that I'm just trying to show you at what point things change.
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With a cleat indication on my part that the ability to pay issue tight hot be
a valid issue. I then determined that it was important that I have some
assurance that the ability to pay was in fact a realistic indication by the
City to recommend to my membership in good faith that they consider a pay cut
and set in motion research necessary to ascertain whether or not what they were
saying was true. In the interim period I had a concern that we really didn't
have a feel for how the men felt about the minimum staffing level, how the
men felt about the wage rate itself, how the men felt about the off -duty pay
issue and the Chief indicated that he wanted an indication as soon as possible
on the off -duty pay issue so I said alright I'll run and vote because a lot of
people were prepared to vote, but I'm going to use it in an advisory capacity
only, however, I'll structure the ballot to (a)inform me as to their feelings
on each issue, and it's a very complicated issue. At the same time I'd also
structure that ballot with a change in it so that should the City turn around
and say yes, we'll have the ability to pay once we start selling beer then the
membership would go back to the time and half provision. They wouldn't had a
chance to vote on it I could say in good conscience go ahead we'll do it on that
basis. The membership quite significant numbers, quite significant percentage
said we'll take a pay cut because you're going to put more police officers in
the stadium, but when you start selling beer in that place the working conditions
are going to generate to the extent that we think it's only that we be compensated
at our old rate of time and a half and they accepted that. I communicated that
to the City and the City said no we do no want to agree to that we do not want
to be required to do that. My argument was say listen I said I've got preliminary
figures and I showed them preliminary figures that the dollar amount was insignif-
cant they rejected any attempt to further discuss the matter and then went about
the business of seeking volunteers of a signed on -duty police officer ...
Mayor Ferre: Don, excuse me...
Lt. March: ... I'm going to wrap it up in ...
Mayor Ferre: But I'm trying to see if we can cut through and get to the
solution to it because I would like to really see if we can solve it and get
I'd like to see the Police Department remain on the Orange Bowl and I'm sure
I speak for everybody on this Commission. I appreciate the history. I don't
mean to cut you off but I promised Rose we'd break up at noon we got two minutes
left.
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Lt. March: Can you give me those two?
Mayor Ferre: Well, then, but we're not going to come to a conclusion then.
Lt. March: Alright. I have an analysis that was done that indicates and it's
even... it's going to be even a lesser figure but that if we were to go the the
MEM reduced rate for police officers until such time as they began selling beer that
# the overall security cost of the City by making that agreement would be an
= increase of $7,000, okay, for the whole year. Now, $7,000, you know, I've seen
an awful lot of money spent around here. Now, when you take into consideration
■ putting police officers in place of security guards, you talked about generating
= in the neighborhood of $250,000 to $300,000 I'm really troubled that $7,000 is
such a big item.
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Mayor Ferre: Don explain, please is the $7,000 ...
Lt. March: For the whole year.
Mayor Ferre: ... time and a half?
Lt. March: If we go to time and a hand $7,000 is the net difference that the
City would have when it comes to hiring security people at $7.50 an hour.
Mayor Ferre: Does the Administration agree with those figures?
Mr. Grassie: No, we certainly do not. They're not even close.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what are your figures?
Mr. Grassie; I haven't even seen their's.
lit: Match: 1'11 give..,:.. people have seen the.figutes in the. City Administration,
but I'll be glad to give anyone a copy of this,; I gave. one to a Herald Reporter
who asked me about this. issue.. I indicated, look, I got the figures if anybody
Hants to look at the figures they can. You can look at my whole file, anybody
II can look at my file. I have no reluctance to show my paper work to anybody in
ME this community. I never have that. You can see all the letters that I've
written and everything that I've accomplished. Now, this figure is even going
to be less because for the football game that's coming up the reassigning on
one shift alone in the neighborhood of 15 officers which represents about 40%
. I think of the work force that's scheduled to be out in the street in this
community are going to be standing in that Orange Bowl providing security and
M the citizens are paying for it. Now, if that's effective administration I have
III some real problems with that, but that's what's going to happen and I don't
think that the community wants to do that.. I don't think Mr. Jennings in his
own mind, in his own heart wants to see that that happen and I can't hold him
= responsible. I've enjoyed my conversations with Mr. Jennings. I haven't
always agreed with them but I find him the kind of person that I could deal with
III and I could discuss things with and there was any emotional thing, or never any
friction thing and it looked like a legitimate attempt to resolve the problem.
I questioned the ability to pay argument I think I questioned it rightfully.
= t think the figures are going to be supported... If they're questioned and I'm
wrong I'll stand right up here in front of anybody and say hey we were wrong,
IIII'm not always right, but I think in this case that we are. I think that
maybe there's a hidden agenda here, maybe there's an attempt to communicate
something to the organized employee groups with regards to their ability to say
anything and have any control over their destiny and I don't think that that's
in the best interest to the community. When you talk about selling beer in an
Orange Bowl and providing quality security.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I wish to interject in the interest of fairness there's
two hours of the lunch break March get together with the Administration, go over
the figures and come back at the end of the lunch break and let's see if in fact
they agree and if they disagree how far they disagree.
Lt. March: Who's going to call F.I.U. in case we don't? I'm being facetious...
Mr. Plummer: Those days are gone.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, would somebody on the staff be willing or able to do that?
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, with significant input from the Police Chief we have been
trying to work through this problem for about six weeks.
Mayor Ferre: Well, if that's the case in two more hours won't hurt you will it?
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, we can spend the two hours. The point that I want to
make for you is that the Police Department and the City find themselves in a
rather strange position of talking with their police officers and attempting to
offer them an hourly rate of pay which is significantly more than those same
officers accept from any gas station, any bank, or any grocery store for which
they work. In other words, these same people are willing to work for anybody else
Mayor. Ferre: Mr. Grassie...
Mr. Grassie: ... May I finish my statement please? They're willing to work for
anybody else for less. And, we have a basic conflict with them because they're
not willing to work for the City for more than they work for anybody else...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie...
Mr. Grassie: ... in addition to which in the judgment of the department and the
Police Chieftwe can properly staff that Orange Bowl in the way we propose to do it
Mayor Ferre: Wonderful.
Mr. Grassie: ... which is a combination of police officers and security,. Now,
is you would like for us to spend somebody to spend two hours looking at their
figures...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
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Mayot Ferre.: Now, let me. go over this as I understand it,, t think and I'tn nett
speaking for eyeryhody in this, Commission but I'm sure I read the sense here
that if we. can have. City of Miami policemen and women do this that we're very
happy and we'd be happier, however, that does not mean that the City of Miami
Commission is. going to put itself in the bargaining position of re -bargaining
and re. -negotiating this with the union. I understand your reluctance and I think
you're right. There has been a tendency in the history going back for years that
this City Commission involves itself in negotiations but you've got to understand
that this Commission is the policy setting board and there are points and there
are times when there's a thin line between the administrative role and the
policy setting role. Now, as a matter of policy this is my personal opinion,
I would like to see the City Police Department be responsible for securing the
Orange Bowl during the games.. Now, if on the other hand if they are unreasonable
and they do not wish to do something on a reasonable basis and you come to that
conclusion which you have,and Mr. March is here requesting that we give this one
last try. I think that's a request that we have to honor. And, I think you have
to approach it with good faith and I know you will;if in the next two hours we
can't come to a conclusion on it then we'll have to see what the majority of this
Commission will do.
Mr. Grassie: My difficulty really is with the business of the two hours Mr. Mayor.
I agree entirely with you on the policy issue. The point that I was trying to
make was that we have had people working on this for six weeks at least. Now, the
Police. Chief is on vacation. He was a principle participant in this process.
Mr. Jennings isn't here and I don't whether I can even get him in the next two
hours and we are back to the question of off the top of the head kind of judgments
on an issue that has been analyzed by many people over many weeks. Now, that is
really my reluctance. It's a question of doing it responsibly. It is not a
question of doing it. So what I'm saying is that if you would like to analyze
this question, have it looked at carefully from a policy point of view. We would
delighted to present all of the issues, to you but we have to do it in an organized
way when I'm sure that all of the participants are going to be present and I don't
know that over the lunch hour ...
Mayor Ferre; That's a valid point.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, I think the point that is being missed, very simply,
yes you the Administration and you the Department and you the Union have spent
six weeks... We, unfortunately ,, we the Commission have only been subjected to
it through the media which we take in that text. Now, all I'm saying is that
Mr. March has made a contention here today that I don't know and I'm sure you
would that the difference is $7,50.0 or $7,000. When you were asked was that
true, you said no, but when you were further asked how much, you said you didn't
know. Now, if you've been involved in it for six weeks and we have not...
Mr. Grassie: I have not personally, no.
Mr.. Plummer: Alright, excuse me. You, we the people, alright, this high paid
staff that you have, all I'm saying isif you can't answer that I sure can't
and I think we the Commission who are asked to he make the decision are entitled
to that information. Now, I think you have a perfectly legitimate objection if
the two hours, is not sufficient then all of the rest of the afternoon and we'll
make this the last item, but I think we the Commissioners who are asked to vote
areentitled to know what the Administration says is the difference when you say
that his is not right.
Mr. Grassie; Commissioner, you see, the formulation of the question is what I
have. the problem with. The question is not germaine to what is in front of you
in my estimation.. What is on your agenda is the question of whether or not we
should have an agreement with. Frain which permits. Jennings and the Department
to use security personnel as they are needed. There is a further administrative
question between the Police Department and Jennings as to how many police people
Should be used and how many security people should be used.
Mr Plummer; I understand that.
Mr. Grassie; Now, the question that you're asking be resolved today is not a
question on your agenda. It is not in my estimation a question which is even
properly in front of you, you're not being asked to do anything about that.
Now, if one the ether hand you would like to establish or consider if you want
to take it as a policy question whether or not we have officers or security
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you wait to have a policy about. What I'm saying is that we ate perfectly
tilling to go through that whole process withyouu hut we have to be sure
ttiat the people who have the information arein front of you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright. Father Gibson.
Mr. Grassie: And we can't do it in the middle of our agenda. It's
question.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson.
Rev. Gibson: I know we don't have time but I think maybe we need not talk
about the money, maybe we need to talk about the policy and philosophy. I
find it hard to mix apples and oranges sometimes,even when the juice comesout
either they don't taste the same, meaning a security officer doesn't carry the
same responsibility as a policemen nor does he have the same authority nor is
he considered in the same light, and maybe we need to deal with the policy
rather than the price, because after all the safety of the people is there and
you know we got to worry about it. Mr. Mayor, knowing Mrs. Gordon has to go
I'd like for us to adjourn so she can make that wonderful speech she's going to
make and then come back and I'll spend all night talking...
t•ir. Grassie: Shall we put this on a future agenda for you?
Mayor Ferre: I think that's probably going to be the only alternative.
Mr. Grassie: In the meantime, we would like to have the ability to retain
security people so that in fact we can do .
Rev. Gibson: Well, now, that's where I differ. That's my concern about the
philosophy and policy. I'd rather come after the lunch hour and deal with the
philosophy.
Mayor Ferre: See the question...
Mr. Grassie: What I'm saying...,
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I know what you're saying, you're saying you would like a
positive vote on resolution 35 accepting the bid of Andy Frain of Florida so that
in the interim you will be able to provide security. We understand and I guess
what...
■ Mr. Grassie: We're going to provide security it's just... you know, because we
have too. It's just a question of whether we can cover that with an agreement
ur not and I would like to have them covered with an agreement...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
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Mr. Grassie: But if we're going to talk about the philosophy question we have
to do it at a time when you are sure that all of the participants are going to be
here .
Rev. Gibson: Okay, then let's make a motion Mr. Mayor that the Manager be
instructed to provide security in the same manner as in the past. That's the
motion.
Mr. Plummer: That says nothing.
R.:J. Gibson: ... It says a devil of a lot. In other words, you haven't had any,
security officers in there before.
M. Grassie; That's not true Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer; ... we did,
Rev. Gibson; Okay, I'll make the motion. I have no problem,
a motion?
Mr. Plummer: No, let me ask a question.
(EVERYBODY TALKING AT THE SAME TIME).
Mr, Plummer: May I ask a question, please? Mr, Qassie to ,t, r,'Mieike, refresh
You want me to make
fby mild that the present contract With P.O.P. is there a ptoifision for police
work in the Orange Bowl? I can't find it. There was a cofitratt existing that
did have it, was it the prior one?
Mt, Grassie: I don't believe so,
Lt. March: No, sir.
Mr, Plummer: Neither one of them had that.
Lt. March: There was a referral to a thing called event pay in our proposals
the nearest that I contracted in the past, that I contracted to.
Mr, Plummer: That spoke to the time and a half in the three City facility.
Mr. Grassie: No, we never had that.
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry...
Mayor Ferre: Well, my advice is that we take this up at 2:00 o'clock..
Lt. March: 2:00 o'clock, sir?
Mayor Ferre: We'll be back at 2:00 o'clock. Now, Father and Rose and
Manolo, we have to also deal with this Orange Bowl Beer problem,
Mr. Plummer: Why?
Mayor Ferre: Well...
Rev. Gibson: T'll be here.
Mayor Ferre: I think something that we're going to have to deal with later on
this afternoon. (BACKGROUND COMMENT) Well, I mean, you know it's up in the air
isn't it? It's ... we got to bring it to a head.
(C0101ISSIO.z RECESS FROM 12:15 A.M. FOR LUNCH UNTIL 2:10 P.M. WENT BACK INTO SESSION).
23. RECEIVE SEALED t3IDS - COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4408 (SECOND BIDDING)
This being the date and time advertised for receiving sealed bids for
H-4408 Coconut Grove Bus Area Highway Improvement (Second Ridding), the
Mayor announced that the City Commission was now ready to receive sealed bids:
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner (rev.) Gibson, who
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-556
A MOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, READ AND REFER TO THE
CITY MANAGER FOR TABULATION AND REPORT BIDS AUTHORIZED
TO BE RECEIVED THIS DATE FOR: COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS
AREA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4408 (SECOND BIDDING).
Upon being seconded by Mayor Ferre, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
BIDS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING FIRMS:
D,M.P. Corporation , Garcia Allen Construction Co.,Inc., Marks Brothers Company
(NOT INCORPORATED), Melrose Nursery Inc., Recio & Assoc „ Inc., and Tamiami Plant
Systems, Inc.
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COMMISSIONER GORDON ENTERED THE MEETING AT 2:33 P.M..
24. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
1. Resolution expressing deepest condolences and sympathy to the family of
Mr. William Phelps Simmons, Jr., who spent his life in sincere, dedicated
service to his family, his community, his country and mankind in general.
2. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mr. Robert McDougal, Board of Trustee
member, Ransom -Everglades School and the inauguration of the new headmaster,
Mr. James B. Young in celebration of their Seventy-fifth Anniversary
Sunday afternoon, September 24.
3. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mr. William Needs, Executive Director
and Joseph Brown, President of Board of Directors, designating the week
of September 16th through 22nd as "Big Brother -Big Sister Appreciation
Week."
4. Proclamation honoring the sixth annual Hispanic Heritage Week Celebration
from October 6 through the 15th.
5. Presentation of a Proclamation designating the week of September 11 through
the 16th as Land Surveyors Week. Accepting the Proclamation will be
Mr. Cristobal G. Mayo, President of the Confederation de Profesionales
Cubanos en el Exilio, Mr. Jose Heredia, President Cuban Land Surveyors
Association, Mr. William Harrison, and Mr. Fernando Gatell.
6. Personal Appearance by Mrs. Annette Eisenberg requesting City assistance for
the Little River Commerce Association's Oktoberfest.
7. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mr. Mayer Finkel, Union Label Chairman,
S.F., AFL-CIO, designating the week beginning September 4 as "Union Label
Week."
8. Deferred - Personal appearance by members of the International Folk Festival
to discuss plans for the 1979 festival.
9. Presentation of a Proclamation to Fire Investigator Instructors -
Volunteer Group.
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25. PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF MRS. ANNETTE EISENBERG RE:
DIRECIYRANAGERCE TOASSOCIATION'S
FUNDING NOTTOTOEEXCEED,
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Mayor Ferre: We're on the 2:30 agenda on item 1 6, which is personal appearance
of Annette Eisenberg.We're
thetwelllways being ofytheeased to communityaveWelletlecanskeepr�nhere
a tireless worker
going.
Mr. Plummer: Is that a eulogy?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Please continue it will be easier to get what I asking
Mayor Ferre: You never had any problems that I noticed.
Mrs. Eisenberg: I'm here for two reasons, number one to announce our
0ktoberfest, which Ms. Larson will pass onto you.
Mayor Ferre: Is that related at all to beer in the Orange Bowl?
Mrs. Eisenberg: No, it's beer in Little River. You keep your problems'w�
don't need them.
Mr. Plummer: How much concession rights do we get?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Make me an offer. I'm not as hard to deal
okay.
Mr. Plummer: I don't know about that.
Mrs. Eisenberg: I don't know about that. Alright, lady and gentlemen o{
the Commission I'm here today to announce Little River's Oktoberfest. As you
know, Little River is in the redevelopment stage through Community Development
and through City of Miami funding, I am here today Mr. Ferre, Mayor,...
Mayor Ferre: I hear every word.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Okay. I'm here today to ask for a mere $5,000 to help us
promote our Oktoberfest. In reality with the kinds of money you people have
been passing out to other festivals this is just a pittance . I have submitted
a budget to show you how frugal we are and to tell you that Dade County, of
course, has participated by funding our office in the amount of $73,000 none
of which comes from the City of Miami and I show you here that we even made you
a co-sponsor, see City of Miami. You got that for giving...
Mrs. Gordon: That's positive thinking Annette.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Sure. Well, I'll tell you Dr. Lizaso gave
tus sg$170.us 00etowards
entertainment and the City of Miami Parks Department
Showmobile as long as we pay for labor of about $200.00 and so we thought we
would make the City of Miami Co -Sponsors. In reality I know most of you know
what is going on in Little River and the only way we can point this out to the
rest of Dade County is to have these various festivals. We had a Spring Festival
that was so very popular and successful that the AP picked it up and it went
all over the country. I had a roommate in China from Memphis and she sent me
an article about the Little River Spring Festival that appeared in thephis
paper. We hope to have equal coverage, but we do need financial help this
to make it truly a successful festival.
Mayor Ferre: Well, Rose and I are against beer so I don't know how we can...
Mrs. Eisenberg: Well, so we won't give you your cup of free beer when you Cut
the ribbon.
Mrs. Gordon: No, you can give us the root beer.
Mrs, Eisenberg: It's a deal,
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Mrs, Eisenberg: t donut drink. eithet4. Ott 4Aa thought that
beer to make it a truly Oktoberfestk
?Mayor Ferre: Oktoberfest,
Mrs, Eisenberg: Right.
Mayor Ferre.; Good girl.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: You just changed my mind.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Are there any questions.?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, the question is where do you propose that we get the $5,006
Mrs. Eisenberg: Well, the probably the same place you were able to pull s.ome
of the other fanastic funding that you passed out these last years...
Mayor Ferre: Annette, that's before we saw the...
Mrs. Eisenberg: The budget..
Mayor Ferre: ... proposed budget.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Well, Maurice, Little. River gets so very little.'
Mayor Ferre: That is true.
Mrs. Eisenberg: ... In fact, nothing, right: and this is a community that has.
been self sufficient and in self help community, they're now asking for the
help to exploit the area, show the investors what's. happened. We had a person
come to our office last week from Denver thinking of putting up a 20 or 30
story building► that didn't happen overnight. It happened because Little River
is out there. We are progressing,and now find the $5,00.0.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Manager, couldn't you find that?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Pardon me.
Mayor Ferre: I think you're asking the right guy.
Rev. Gibson: Not you. Mr. Manager?
Mr. Plummer: Get out your checkbook ,Joe..
Rev. Gihs.on: And, we'll find that $5,000.
Mrs. Gordon: How about in the budgeted items called, "festivals".
Mr. Plummer: That wasdepleted in the first 24—hours it was created.
Mr. Grassie; This is an event which takesplace in next year's. budget.
Mayor Ferre: You mean next October.
Mrs. Eisenberg: No, October.
Mr. Grass.ie; In October, a month from now.
Mayor Ferre: Ohs oh, this October.
Mr. Grassier Yes, a little over a month from now,
Rev. Gipson; If we said yes., would you be able to find it?
Mays t Ferrel Annette.; low much. 1.s = the. County giving you?
Mt:. Grassie.: The only way 1 can find it is to push something else oiit
Mayor Ferre: How much is the County giving you?
Mrs, Eisenberg: Well, Maurice, the County funds our office and from the
$73,00.0_we have budgeted line items that we can use for the festival such. as
some promotion money, of course, the staff gets paid from the County and many
of the other things that we use, so it'll be much more than the $5,000.when
you consider the staff time over a period of six months and all.
Mr. Grassie: But, that's not funding for the festival, is it? That's for
your other neighborhood developments...
Mrs.. Eisenberg: Well, our funding is for the redevelopment or the promotion
of the Little River area, it's not for any hardware? it's to use whatever
comes within our line items and of course,staff time is one of that,
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this, what's the total budget of the Oktob.erfest?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Probably about $9,000 and that's not with all the in -kind
that's coming in..
Mrs. Gordon: How many days are going to be in that?
Mrs.. Eisenberg: One day but with a great deal of promotion for that one day.'
Mayor Ferre: And, have you gone through staff or did you just come directly
to this. Commission?
Mrs.. Eisenberg; Well, you know, I'm going to have to plead ignorance because
you change staff so many times. I don't even know who Cardenas is. Who is he?
I don't even know who he is. I mean, you have a ...
Mayor Ferre: Who?
Mrs. Eisenberg: You have an Assistant Manager by the name of Mr. Cardenas?
Mayor Ferre: Oh, Cortina.
Mrs. Eisenberg: Cortina? yes, I don't even know...
Mayor Ferre: Cortina has been here for ...
Mrs. Gordon: Will the real Cortina stand up?
Mrs. Eisenberg: .,. I'm not here that much, I'm busy working, but you know,
things change in the City of Miami.. Things change in the City of Miami so
rapidly there's so many agencies and departments.
Mayor Ferre; Well? now, now, Mr. Cortina is...
Mrs.. Eisenberg: He's been helpful.
Mayor Ferre; ..., an Assistant City Manager,who has been appointed.
Mrs, Eisenberg: He's been helpful.
Mrs. Gordon; She's just kidding you.
Mrs. Eisenberg: No? he's been helpful, He told me what to do and I did
Mr. Plummer: Did you enjoy it? (repeat)
Mrs. Eisenberg: Oh come on J. L. , you know,you really have to treat me with
more respect now that the Annette Eisenberg Center is one of the best structures
in Dade County, you know that. Oh, it's exciting, it really is.
Mrs. Gordon; We just like you to, you know, to he here, that's why we're
keeping you therefor a little while.
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M : Dt 'ette Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have to come to a decision
it's 30.0 o'clock and we've got a lot of things to doi and what is. the .Will
�f phis Commission?
.rs, Gordon: Father Gibson, you moved it, I seconded it, t don't know i€
you moved it or not, did you FatherT
Rev. Gibson: Yes, I moved the festival.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay. And, in seconding it I simply want to say this., t think.
?t's a very worthwhile project and in fact 1 like it very much because it
features a part of our community that has not had a great deal of features
And, I congratulate you and I congratulate all the. members of the. Culmer
Association because I think. you're on the move.. I think you're really moving
and that's good.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion.
Mr. Plummer: I don't think we can havea vote until we have Mrs., Maloney's.
opinion.
Mayor Ferre: Who?
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre: Oh, please, call the roll, please..
Mrs.
Maloney, that little lady about the beer in the Orange Bowl.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I'd note you that there's no placeon here that they feature
beer, they feature funds that shopping, food, entertainment and fun, right?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Right.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay.
Mayor Ferre; How much is the beer going to be out of the $5,000?
Mrs. Eisenberg: The beer will not come out of this. We hope that the beer
will pay for itself. We will be giving away a lot of beer during the various
ceremonies but we hope, we don't intend, we know we can't make money on the
festival b.ut we hope that the beer will be covered.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion. Call the roll, please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-557
A MQTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO FIND THE NECESSARY FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $5,000 TO BE USED AS CONTRIBUTION OT THE
LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE ASSOCIATION'S "OKTOBERFEST."
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, Commissioner Gordon, *Commissioner Plummer,
and Vice Mayor Reboso.
NOES: *Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
*Mr. Plummer: In the interest of being fair to all of the community I vote yes.
*M<,yor Ferre; Annette, I really can't in all good conscience vote for it
because right now the way this budget is before us I would vote"no"against
Little Havana, the Folk Festival, the Puerto Rican Festival and every other
festival,..
Mrs. Eisenberg; I understand.
Mayor Ferre; It's ,just that until we get thisbudget settled down I just don't
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see how, s,. you knows we'•re in ,.. we got had problems.
Mrs. Eisenberg: ... Well thank you ver much.
26. PERSONAL APPEANCE OF MRS. ANNETTE EISENBERG
REGARDING PROBLEM OF GARBAGE TN THE LITTLE
RIVER AREA.
Mrs.. Eisenberg: As, long as. I do have the microphone and I am here and I am
taking County time to do this I do want to speak to you about this and this
iz something I spoke to J. L. and some people about. I am extremely distressed
as a citizen of the City of Miami I am upset and I am distressed and I am
worried and I want you to hear me out. I am concerned because with or without
your knowledge, but with the knowledge of the Zoning Department you are
allowing the City of Miami to become a dump and I'm going to have these
(Nancy) I'm going to have this package sent around to you so that you'll see
what has been happening. It is not fair. I invite you people to drive. I
came down here down Miami Avenue that's just one. area where the equipment,
where the garbage is laying around in the yard, these areas aren't zoned for
that kind of garbage, it's happening in Little River and it's happening in
Edition Park and I'm concerned and all I get from all these newspaper articles
that have been written about Little River, because that's the area I'm in now.
We have gotten no results. Our Zoning Department makes promises they don't
know how to keen. Appointments are made for meetings that are not kept. If
we ;:.nnot give the services, if we cannot maintain our neighborhood so that
the City of Miami is a place that we're proud to live in then I don't think
we need a City and you know I don't really mean that because I've lived here
for .8 years, pease, I ask you please to get to the Zoning Department find out
why they can't :'unction. Their function isn't to do P.R. work the way they're
doing. Their function is to enforce the ordinances,and if the ordinances are
not stringent enough then for pity sakes pass ordinances that will make the
people in the City of Miami maintain their property and not use it as a garbage
dump. Thank you.
Mayer Ferre: Well, you have a cheering section.
Mrs. Fisenb g: I don't know these people, but thank you.
Mayor Ferre: ,r'e11, we do.
Mr. Plummer: Take the $5,000 from the Day Care and give it to the beer.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager, I think it would be appropriate for you
to respond and have somebody respond to Mrs. Eisenberg specifically.
27. PROCLAMATION HONORING THE SIXTH ANNUAL HISPANIC
WEEK CELEBRATION, OCT. 6 - 15; DIRECT MANAGER TO
PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AND IN -KIND SERVICES.
Mayor Ferre: We have at this time Captain William Alexander and would like to
be recognized in regar•ls to Hispanic Heritage Week and police protection.
Capt. Alexander: Thank you Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, City Manager.
In behalf of the... as a Chairman of the Hispanic Heritage Week this year and
behalf of the whole group I come to you today in the first place to say thanks
to the City fcr everything that they were doing to make this Miami a great
Miami to live and really have fun. We see that in this year every two months
we have big activities in this community. Today, I come also and I see that
Little River also is working in the same direction and I see that Mr. Mayor is
thinking of the budget, but anyhow I have to come with a request to tell you
that we 109 programs and the program in 1978 have 109 events in this community
all around and we have already all the programs setup, the budget for every-
thing is already committed,and we have a group of Porelore groups from the
Phillippians. We have from Mexico, we have from Bolivia, Ecuador, and
Dominican Republic, they are the only two that we don't yet a commitment,
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but today I cote to tell that we offered the.accommodation for these
forelote groups and we.are short in out budget by $5,000, and I come in
front of you to ascto make this 6th year of Hispanic Heritage Week the
success that we expect and weare short and I think that we are flaking a
$200,000 program and the other things that we really need to cover our
budget is $5,000, I think. that will be agreeable to the City as Little Rivet►
Mr. Plummer: Are you selling beer?
Capt. Alexander: No, we don't sell beer.
Mr. Plummer: You should.
Capt. Alexander: I'm sorry Mr. Mayor but...
Mayor Ferre: You
be consistent. I
Now; that doesn't
differently..
know, I don't want you to feel offended because I have to
have to take the. same position I took with. Annette with you,
mean that you know, therest of the Commission might see it
Mr. Plummer: When is the event?
Capt. Alexander: The event is going to start October 6th through October l5th.
We have a whole week of. activities..
Mr. Plummer: And, what is the total budget?
Capt. Alexander: The total budget will be about as I said, it'll be about
$200,0.00 that's the total amount involved: b.ut the budget that we really
need for the money that we need,it's not money exactly, it's in this case what
I'm asking is for the help to pay the Police Department that's ... you know,
last year we didn't pay for that and we made all the facts and the
money that we have to face now is that if we have to pay the Police Department,
we cannot bring the group from three different Latin countries and as you know
we have promoted this City to being developed as a tourist attraction,
especially without the American countries.
Mr. Plummer: How many years has this program been running?
Capt. Alexander: Well, we have six years so far.
Mr. Plummer: Where will it take place?
Capt. Alexander: It will take place all around Dade County and all the City...
Mayor Ferre: This is a Dade County yearly Hispanic Heritage Week.
Mr. Plummer: Is it going to be most of it in the City you're saying you're
asking for in -kind which I'm assuming the only thing we can grant would be
in -kind as to our Police Department and Sanitation.
Capt. Alexander: Right.
Mr. Plummer: So you're obviously addressing that which is the City orientated
is that correct?
Capt. Alexander: Well, that's the rate, and I have here Mr. Willie Gort can
explain one of the eventsis going to be closing all the 8th Streets. and I
and the Havana League Authority...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Gort, before you address the Commission, Mr. Gort, I want to
thank you for your help and your participation in the forthcoming Southern Bell
Franchise vote. We saw,... you looked like a real actor on the televison tube
there and you expressed yourself very well, I just want to thank you for your
cooperation.
Mr. Gort: It was my pleasure. One of the things that we try to do here isgoing
to bring tourism down to this Miami area and talking about the festival, the main
festival where we're going to need the most police protection is going to be
taking place within the City of Miami. The biggest one that we're going to have
we're going to have on S.W. 8th Street, where we're going to be needing to close
the street from 15th Avenue to 27th Avenue. Now, the problem we have for the past
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six years we have the police to help us along with this. Now, in this. festival
by itself on S.W. 8th Street we have participation for the private enterprise
where they put up more than $50,000. We're going to have sixteen bands in there
playing between the hours of 2:00 o'clock in the afternoon to 10:00 o'clock P.M,
Now, we're going to also have Ballet Folkloricofrom Bolivia, Mexico, and the
Phillipines, we also ... which they have confirmed already. We have Dominican
Republic and Ecuador which are going to come down here. This is the type of
events that we're trying to create to the City of Miami to bring people down
here.
Mr. Plummer: Let me cut this short. The thing I'm trying to determine is that
this activity which you're asking for us to support is taking place in the City
of Miami.
Mr. Gort: Yes, all we need is the in -kind service with the City of Miami Police
Department using...
Mr. Plummer: Whether or not the Manager does it as an in -kind or a direct
payment is up to the Manager. You're only concerned the bottomline that it'•
done, correct?
Mr. Gort: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, to be consistent, realizing that we have great budget
restraints but the precedent has been set. I voted for it before, I think we
must be fair to all of the community, I will make the motion...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer moves, is there a second?
Rev. Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There's a second. Further discussion. Call the roll.
Mrs. Gordon: Just one note, not a discussion but a point of information with
regard to where this will be coming from. If I'm not wrong in this Mr. Grassie
in the budget there is a line item for, I think it was $42,000 for Hispanic
Festival, is this going to come from that? It's part of an $80,000 line item.
Mr. Grassie: There was $42,000 for Hispanic, no ma'am, no way you have no line
item once that...
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I checked with Mr. Gary when I questioned the $80,000 and
I found out that $42,000 of it was for Hispanic Festival, and if that be the
case I just want to know if this will come from that, festival or...
Mr. Grassie: Are you talking about this year's budget or next year's budget?
Mrs. Gordon: Next year's budget, 197_.
Mr. Grassie: Well, the proposed budget for next year.
Mrs. Gordon: Correct. It's in this budget.
Mr. Grassie: It is not for any one event that is a line
ten different events.
Mrs. Gordon: No, the $42,000 was a specific Latin Festivals and that is the
I'm referring to, will this come off of that?
Mr. Grassie: No, Commissioner Gordon, you know I made up the budget, and let
tell you, it is not for one event.
Mrs. Gordon: Alright.
Mr. Grassie: It is not for any one event. It is for all events of that type
including Calle Ocho, you know, the 8th Open House 8 and...
Mrs. Gordon: Okay, as long as we're not misunderstanding each other. There is a
line item in there is a line item in there which is titled, "festivals" and you're
saying this will come from it, okay.
Mr, Grassie: Well, I think they want their money faster than that, but if what
you're approving is something that we would have to come up with out of this
year's budget I'm assuming, because keep in mind that we're talking about the first
Week in October►
Meyor 1erre: Is there further discussion on this itet?
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: If not we have a motion and a second, Cali the roil,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-558
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY POLICE AND SANITATION IN -KIND
SERVICES TO THE PROMOTERS OF THE "HISPANIC HERITAGE
WEEK" - OCTOBER 6 THROUGH OCTOBER 15.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Plummer, Vice Mayor Reboso, Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
and Commissioner Gordon.
NOES: Mayor Ferre.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you and good luck.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gort and Mr. Manager, my office hasb.een
any parade involved in this?
Mr. Gort: No, there won't be any parade.
Mr. Plummer: Alright. Mr. Manager, my office has been receiving callsin
cases where S.?:. 8th Street has been closed. It was my understanding that when
the streets were closed that the main arterial would remain open such as in this
particular case 17th Avenue and 22nd Avenue and of course, 27th, because that's
the end of the line, and I think people have some very strong points that if
they're coming from the north or either way they've almost got to go to the
expressway or go all the way out to the outskirts of town, so even if there is
a parade which I understand would cause a problem but in cases where there are
none it is my hope to eliminate these objectors because I think they make a good
point and leave the main arterial so people can pass from the north to the south.
It has been a problem.
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28. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: JACK LIME N IN CONNECTION
WITH LEO HAlRIS' CASE.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we're now moving along, and, I have a letter of request from
Mr. Leo Harris and a group of people that represent Mr. Harris, are they still here?
Is the gentleman representing Leo Harris still present, he wanted to be heard?
Well, if he's not then I assume he's left. He's left?
. There he is.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, alright. Would the group representing Leo Harris step
forward and make your statement? We're behind in the Commission agenda. I know
you have an important item, but we are somewhat ... so I'm going to have to be
short of the time with you, so make your statement.
Mr. Lieberman: Okay, Well, we had originally thought that we were on the agenda
and we had several speakers that was scheduled to be here who ended up not being
able to be here.
Mr. Ongie: Your name for the record, please.
Mr. Lieberman: My name is Jack Lieberman. I'm the Secretary of the Leo Harris
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Mr, Plummer: Mr. Harris, are you an Attotney, sit?
Mr. Lieberman: No. My name is Mr. Lieberman.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, Mr. Lieberman, are you an Attorney?
Mr. Lieberman: No, Leo's attorney. w.as going to be here, however, when
we were told that the point was not on the agenda, he had other commitments and
he said he would try to make it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, go ahead and make your statement, if you would.
Mr. Lieberman: Now, what we would like to ask isthat the City Commission here go
on record in recommending to the State Attorney Janet Reno that the charges be
dropped against Leo Harris. Leo Harris was hit b.y a car driven by City of Miami
Police Officer on August 8th, he refused medical attention by the City of Miami
Police. He was, when leaders of the Haitian Community demanded that he be
given medical care, taken to a police station, instead of being taken to the
hospital, racist efforts task were ... racist statements were made by Police
Officers against Leo, and it wasn't until several hours after he was hit by a
car and he had a large gash in his leg that he was final taken to the hospital
and 17 stitches were required. We think that the actions of the Police Officer
in this case was criminal. Basically, there was an assault carried out by an
officer against Harris, and then in this case we saw the victim being made into
the criminal, that is the person who was hit, who was physically hurt, who was
abused by the police, being charged and he can now get 2-years imprisonment.
This Commission is the Administrative body that governs the City of Miami ...
Mayor Ferre: No, sir, and that's not correct. You're not an attorney, but we
do not administer. This is a policy setting board. We are the legislative
body, not the administrative body.
Mr. Lieberman: Okay, yes, and you set the policy for the police and the various
government agencies.
Mayor Ferre: Right.
Mr. Lieberman: We think that racist policy should not be tolerated in the
City of Miami, that racist are frame-ups, like the frame-up of Leo Harris should
not be permitted to take place, and that the City Council should come out against
this racist frame-up. There are a number of ... we have witnesses, and we have
one of the organizers of the protest are Mr. Arthur Pathagon, who was there who
can testify as to what happened that night regarding the police's conduct. The
police claimed that they were taking Leo to the hospital when they took in into
the car. They had to be virtually forced to take him into the car and then they
took him instead, they drove him around for a while and then took him to a police
station rather than to the hospital and we think that the City Commission should
come out demanding that the charges be dropped. Last night the NAACP, the Greater
Miami Branch of the NAACP went on record supporting this demand. You should be
getting a letter from them, people such as, Neil Adams, Jimmie Burke, I have here
a whole list of individuals here who I'm sure you're familiar with will come out
in support of this demand and we would like the Council to go on record today
against this racist frame-up.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you Mr. Lieberman. Mr. Manager, would you address
yourself to the...
Mr. Lieberman: Could I just askif you would be willing to hear Mr. Pathagon?
Mayor Ferre: I didn't interrupt you and I will recognize him after the Manager
answers this question.
Mr. Grassie: This. question Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission is in
front of the courts now. It's in the regular court process. Anything that this
City Commission would do in my estimation would tend to prejudice the legal case
and I would recommend that the City Commission not take any action for or against
this request.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox, from a legal point -of --view.
Mr. Knox; Yes, sir, Number one, the case is now in criminal courts and number two,
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don't know what theprospect of civil action would be and any official
action taken b.y the City Commission islikely to be prejudical in both of Lhasa
tt4bunals.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Lieberman, you wanted somebody else to speak to its
(SPEAKING OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre; Sure, as long as you make it brief.
Mr.Lieberman: Since you are the policy -making body in the City of Miami, in
fact, by your failure to take a stand against this abuse of power by the Police
Department, this racist frame-up. In fact, you're condoning the action. You
are the elected officials that were... you were elected by the people of the
City of Miami to set policy for the police and for other governing bodies in this.
City, and it was a misconduct committed here and this is the body that is
responsible for the conduct of police and you should speak out against this
misconduct, and that's what we're asking you to do. The fact is you say there
a judicial process going on, that in and of itself is an injustice. The victim
is b.eing made into the criminal in this case and there should,... the only person
that should be on trial should be the Police Officer, Mr. who carried
out assault with a deadly weapon when he ran down Leo with a car.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there anybody else
Mr. Pathagon: I'm here just to take ...
Mayor Ferre: No, we need your name.
you wanted to speak before?
Mr. Pathagon: My name is Arthur Pathagon. I'm here just to tell the truth.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
Mr. Pathagon: I hear one word, criminal. Now, I would like to ask one question,
when somebody ask for medical attention should he be charged for criminal or not,
or should this person receive medical attention? Let me tell you exactly what
happened, what took place on on that night. I was the one to organize the protest
because they hurt my feeling, they hurt my people feeling and my race feeling, so
I was the organizing that thing peaceful when two Haitian girls was looking in
Winn Dixie, the Haitian tried to get these girls, not this guy, this guy
remember one thing he's an American, Black American. Now he come to help us, not
only Black American, White American come with us too, because this matter was
when you call it a humanitary matter, because when you call somebody a bad name
if you are truly a Child of God you should respect people. Now, when this guy
was hit by the car I didn't know. The police officer was on his shirt, caught
his arm, he said, this man is a trouble maker, an outsider he come here just for
his own purpose. I went to see Leo, I didn't know him. I never met him before.
I tell him, look man, what's going on. He said, man, I get hurt. I said, do you
need medical attention? He said, yes. I went back to see the police officer.
I said, sir, this man asked for medical help. Then I took him by the arm y I took
to the man, next thing I hear he has been jailed. What justice is that? That's
exactly what I'm here. I'm a businessman. I'm very busy, but I have to take
time to tell you the truth because you are, like the gentleman said, you are the
one who the people elect so you have that thing in your hand now. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lieberman, let me... this is just one person, the way this
Commission works is that there are five people here and we vote and the majority
prevail so I'm just going to express my personal opinion,alright. I think Mr.
Manager, that perhaps you personally with the Chief should look at the case again
and make sure that everything is proper from the Administrative point -of -view.
Now, with regards to the legal aspects Mr. Lieberman, my opinion is that in this
country, the same government or body does not function as the Administrative body,
the legislative body,and the judiciary body. We are not judges here. We do not
judge the law. Now there are countries and there are places where one man or one
g7.oup of people make all those decisions, they legislate, they act as jury, they
try people, they make decisions, and they do all of these things. Now, this matter
is before the courts in this community. Now, our City Attorney has given us legal
advice that as long as this matter is before the courts in both a criminal case
and perhaps in the future a civil case that we cannot prejudice this matter, because
it is not being handled by us. It is being handled by the State Attorney's Office
and the State Attorney's Office is prosecuting this matter in the courts as is the
regulations and the rules and the laws of this community and that will be determined
by a judge and a jury. Now, that's their job, that's not our job. Now, I personally
choose, personally, to follow the advice of the Manager and he represents. the Police
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Department. And, of the City Attorney, who does. not represent the Police
Department and has an independent criteria. His recommendation is that we
should notinterfere with a judicial process. Nowt a person in this country
is presumed innocent until he's proven otherwise and he will have his day in
court and I'm sure that if he's innocent that is usual of justice in our system
will function. Now, I know there are many of you who don't believe in the
justice of our country or the justice of our society and the court systems, you
know, people can smile and laugh about that, that's alright you're entitled to
that too, but the point is I don't think that this Commission should interfere
in a judicial process. Now, that's just my personal opinion.
Mr. Lieberman: Could I make one more comment?
Iiayor Ferre: Well, let's let the Commission speak out and then you can say what
you want.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I just have to ask one question, Mr. Grassie, was the complaint
lodged with the department and did in fact as usual procedure internal Security
conduct and investigation?
Mr. Grassie: Yes to both questions, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, then, I just want to make sure that we follow the regular
process that is to be followed and it has been and I think the next step is in
the courts.
May,•r Ferre: Alright, is there anybody else who wants to say anything at this
tim? If not, I think... alright, you can make your final statement and then
we'll move on to item 9.
Mr. Lieberman: Okay, in fact, it's your Police Department or the Police Department
that you set policy for that decided to have charges pressed against Leo, it was
a police officer under your jurisdiction that made racist comments both in the
Winn Dixie Store against Haitians and Blacks and to Leo and to Mr. Pathagon
against Haitians and Blacks, and I don't think that you can pass the buck. I
think you are responsible...
Mayor Ferre: ... not passing the buck.
Mr. Lieberman: ... let me just finish my statement. And, I think that this is
not just a question of a single altercation in a parking lot. I think that this
is a political frame-up. I think that this once again points out the fact that
there political prisoners in this country. The fact is, that Leo has been an
activist for quite sometime in this City in fighting against similar cases of
police brutality and police brutality is not just rhetoric, police attacks
injustices occur against Blacks everyday in this City. The Police Department
knew who Leo was. He was framed -up once before by the police and the police
were forced to drop the charges before it ever got to court and in fact, since
this attack occurred Leo's house has been burglarized and political files were
taken whi..e values were left in the house. Now, Leo is a member of the Socialist
Workers Party. The Socialist Workers Party has a suit against the federal government,
against illegal government burglaries, fine and harassment. And, the fact is,
is that government documents from the program and from local government
police agencies have worked in conjunction with the F.B.I. had pointed out and
we have thousands of documents that prove this that in fact similar burglaries
have occurred against members of the SWP, against Black Civil Rights Activist'
in other parts of the country and the fact is that this falls into a systematic
pattern of government harassment against fighters for Black rights, against
socialist and against other political activists, and I don't think that this is
just a case of an altercation in a shopping center. This is a political frame-up.
You're responsible for the political policies that are set in this City and that s
why you should take a stand against it. By not taking a stand in fact you're
:supporting the victim being put on trial and the criminal carrying out the prosecution,
which is what is in fact occurring in this case.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, maybe I ought to make this comment. Sir, I heard what you
said and if I didn't say anything everybody would go away from here and say, you
know, Gibson don't understand me. I would hope that you understand and all the
rest of you will understand that if you are in court you didn't come here first or
they didn't come here first. You're now in court, at that point and time you took
it out of our jurisdiction . You have the .. (You could nod your head, I listened
to you, you know, okay, fine). You have the responsibility to go to court and let
the court judge the evidence we're not judges. We set the policy. If when you go
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to court and the court proves, you tight in your accusations, then you comeback.
f want to make sure you're aware of that. If you go to court and then you ate
going to court, and the court says that you are right, all that you said you're
tight, you then come back to us. But I want to make sure that you understand
that we are not going to intervene. We're going to give you an opportunity to
have the court judge the facts. Once the court judge the facts chips will
fall where they will or may. Now, I'm going to make this final comment.. I
had a roommate in college from the Virgin Islands, this was 40 some odd years
ago and he taught me something that I'll never forget. A law that works for you
will work against you. I had to say to the Haitian the other night, Mr. Mayor
and members of the Commission, we had one hell of a meeting up at,what is that
Puerto Rican Center?...
Mr. Plummer: In Wynwood.
Rev. Gibson: ... in Wynwood. I had to say to them the same thing. I said, you
know, I understand what you said, and I think I understand it better than you
and perhaps better than most people in here. I said I led the fight to bring
about some of these things you're fighting over, but I have not lost my sense
of fair play and justice. I don't let my blackness take care of my , you know,
override my common sense. Now I hope that you won't leave here angry, that
you go to court, you'll prove the case and then come back, if you're right.
Now, if you're wrong, you know, there's no need of coming back because I'm
going to be right here to say the same thing.
29. ENACT NEW SECTION 39-6 OF THE CODE, "CHARGES AND
PROCEDURES FOR USE OF MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AND
DINNER KEY RECREATION CENTER/EXHIBITION HALL.
Mayor Ferre: We're nowon item #l9 on Second Reading an ordinance which was
originally made by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso. Do
you want to move it again,Father?
Rev. Gibson: Where is that?
Mayor Ferre: Item 9.
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson moves. Reboso, you want to second again, item
Mr. Reboso: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Reboso seconds item #i9. Further discussion. Call the roll.
Alright, you have to read the ordinance, I'm sorry.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING SECTIONS 39-6 AND 39-7 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, PERTAINING TO PROCEDURES AND
RENTAL RATES AT MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AND DINNER KEY RECREATION
CENTER/EXHIBITION HALL, IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND ENACTING A NEW
SECTION 39-6 ENTITLED "CHARGES AND PROCEDURES FOR USE OF
MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AND DINNER KEY RECREATION CENTER/EXHIBITION
HALL; PROVIDING SPECIFIED FEES FOR RENTING OF VARIOUS AREAS
WITHIN THE AUDITORIUMS; AND FURTHER PROVIDING SPECIFIED FEES
DETERMINED BY THE TYPE OF EVENT BEING HELD; PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS OR PARTS
THEREOF IN CONFLICT, INSOFAR AS THEY ARE IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING
A SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 27, 1978, it was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. 0n motion of
Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso, the ordinance was there-
upon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the
following vote:
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AttSi Coiaissionet (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Gobi dssioner J. L.. Plummer
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Fevre
Non! None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE N0. 8841.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.
30. AMEND CHAPTER 2 OF THE CODE, MIAMI CITY GENERAL
EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLAN - LABORER, WATCHMAN OR
CUSTODIAL WORKERS PAYBACK.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon moves item 10, and Father Gibson seconds it. Is there
further discussion on item 10? Read the ordinance please.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll, please.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SUBSECTIONS OF THE MIAMI CITY
GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLAN (ORDINANCE 5624, MAY 2, 1956,
AS AMENDED), APPEARING IN CODIFIED FORM AS A PART OF CHAPTER 2
OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, MORE
PARTICULARLY AMENDING SECTION 109 OF SAID CHAPTER BY ADDING AN
ADDITIONAL PROVISION THERETO PROVIDING THAT ANY LABORER, WATCHMAN,
OR CUSTODIAL WORKER WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS PLAN PRIOR
TO APRIL 1, 1955, MAY ELECT TO PAYBACK FOR SERVICE PRIOR TO SAID
DATE; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT ANY EMPLOYEE WHO BECAME ELIGIBLE TO
JOIN THIS PLAN ON SEPTEMBER 1, 1962, AND WHOSE MEMBERSHIP IN SAID
PLAN WAS DELAYED DUE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES OF THE CITY
MAY PAYBACK FOR THE PERIOD FROM SEPTEMBER 1, 1962,UNTIL SAID
APPLICATION WAS PROCESSED; SAID PRIOR SERVICE SHALL NOT BE APPLIED
TOWARD THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ORDINARY DISABILITY BENEFITS; FURTHER,
ANY IN LINE OF DUTY INJURY SUCH AS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO RECEIVE
ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY BENEFITS MUST OCCUR AFTER THE COMPLETION OF
SAID PAYBACK AT THE HEREIN PROVIDED RATE; SHOULD ANY ELIGIBLE
LABORER, WATCHMAN, OR CUSTODIAL WORKER DECIDE TO PAYBACK UNDER THE
HEREIN SECTION, SAID PAYBACK SHALL BE MADE USING THE EMPLOYEE'S
FORMER RATE OF COMPENSATION TOGETHER WITH ACCUMULATED INTEREST AT
THE RATE OF FOUR PERCENT (4%) AS THE BASIS FOR DETERMINING THE
COSTS INVOLVED; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT NOTICE OF INTENT TO PAY BACK
UNDER THE HEREIN SECTION MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE RETIREMENT
BOARD OR ITS DESIGNEE WITHIN FIFTEEN (15) YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE; CONTAINING A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 27, 1978, it
was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion
of of Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the ordinance
was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8842.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
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31. AMEND SECTIONS 54-36, 54-37, 54-39 g 54-41 OF THE
CODE REGULATING THE PLACEtENT OF BUS BENCHES AND/
OR BUS SHELTER STRUCTURES.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item # 11.. Plummer, you want to move that again?
Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Gordon seconds. Further discussion on item 11...
Alright, sir.
Mr. Anderson: Good afternoon Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission. My name
is Michael Anderson, an Attorney with the law firm of Dubbin,Schiff Berkman and
Dubbin with offices at 444 Brickell Avenue, Miami. I represent Bus Bench Company.
At the last meeting you asked that the Bus Bench Industry meet with your staff,
which we did.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Anderson: And, we suggested an amendment to this ordinance which would permit
bus bench advertising along arterial streets which had at least four lanes of
traffic in which we're not adjacent to either single family or duplex neighborhoods.
Mayor Terre: Ri&ht.
Mr. Anderson: We talked... there were five industry representatives of the
Bus Bench Industry and one shelter representative. Nobody in the industry had
any objection to it. We initially felt that there were multiple -story apartment
buildings with four lanes of traffic adjacent to them that this would be a place
where bus benches were necessary and it would also have very minimum affects this
amount of advertising on those benches would have very minimum effect on the
neighborhood. As the meeting went on we realized and we were told that our
200 best locations would be reserved for shelters, talking about the bus benches
now. That the 200 best locations would be reserved for shelters and so we
realize that it would be even more important to have those arterial streets if
we were to, you know, have any ability, provide services and to, of course in
term make any money out of it and so therefore we made that suggestion. As I
understand it Mr. Merrill has considered it and recommended against it. I thought
I would throw that to the Commission to see if the Commission thought that this
would be ... I don't see how it would be detrimental, really on four lanes of
traffic when you have apartment zoning. It could be on U.S. 1. It could be on
27th Avenue, any place where there's multiple -story apartment houses and where
there were four lanes of traffic adjacent to it. It seem like an area where you'd
need benches and where we'd like to supply with advertising.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fosmoen.
Mr. Fosmoen: 0ur position remains fairly clear Mr. Mayor, consistent with what
the directions the Commission gave us and that is not to permit bus bench
advertising in a residentially zoned districts.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, ... let me understand you, sir. You've come to an agreement on
everything, that's the only thing that's left.
Mr. Plummer: I got one other point now. I got a big disagreement on one of the
proposals in this thing and somebody got to explain to me the other proposal about
how we're going to award ... the best bid isn't necessarily going to go to one
company you're recommending regardless of what the best bid is that it go to two
companies and boy, I'm going to tell you...
Mayor Ferre: Well, wait a minute, one issue at a time. The issue now is whether
or not to allow bus benches along U.S. 1.
Mr. Plummer: Get the decision first.
Mr, Fosmoen: No, there are a number of other four lane streets in this City that
have residential properties next to them Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Oh!
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Mt. Fosmoen: Bayshore,fot example.,
Mayor Ferre: Yes..
Mr. Anderson: We weresaying not..,
Mayor Ferre: You're just talking about U.S..1..
Mr. Anderson: No, we were saying not adjacent anywhereit is. Bel or R'-2
adjacent we wouldn'-t be permitted to have, but it would have to be.,.., you have
two conditions, the four -lanes and have multiple family units zoning, or office
zoning.
Mayor Terre: Like for example, Bayshore Drive.
Mr. Anderson: Bayshore Drive, anywhere there's a single.family or duple)
resident adjacent to it we wouldn't be permitted..
Mayor Ferre: Well, then I don't understand because U.S..
in_some areas.
Mr. Anderson: Then in those areas we wouldn't be allowed to have
Mayor Ferre: Well, then what determines an area?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, let me give you an example.
Mayor Ferre: Who?
Mr. Fosmoen: Brickell Avenue...
Mayor Ferre: I remember that.
Mr. Fosmoen: ... is a four lane highway..
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Fosmoen: It has R-3 zoning next to it under this proposal it would b
bus benches up and down Brickell Avenue.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, wait a minute. You know, Dick you got to be fair. You're
talking about there's going to be bus benches, well, there's going to be bus
benches there regardless, the point is whether or not they contain advertising.
There's a big difference.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I mean, I think in no way you can tell that you're going to
have all those buses going down Brickell Avenue and not have any bus benches.
Mr. Fosmoen: We're saying that there will be bus benches as one of the locations
that we would put benches without advertising, but we've taken... this community
is taken a certain amount of pay just to maintain the character along Brickell
Avenue.
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Okay. What's the other item you wanted to discuss?
Mr. Plummer: The item I want to discuss is the memo that I received that regardless
of the bid that it not be awarded to one company that it be awarded to two companies.
Mr. Merrill;
That's the recommendation of the bus benches, not ...
Mr. Anderson: That is not our recommendation by the way, we disagree with that,
and that„.
Mr. Plummer; Excuse me, I'm sorry. I couldn't care whose recommendation
I'm saying...
Mr, Fosmoen: We're not recommending it.
tie,
Mr, Plummer ; I'm saying, you know, if you got a 30% span between number one and
number two and somebody comes up with a yo-yo idea about just because we got to
have two companies. We got to take 30% less, you know, I've heard that story here
hefore.about suds.,,
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rosi6oeti; Mr. Plummer$ we t're not recommending it.,
Mt, Plummer: Well, excuse me then, let me go back to the. memo..
Mr. Fosmoen: We pointed out five items that came up in the meeting with the
Bus Bench Companies that was one of the things that they wanted included,
Mr. Plummer: They wanted.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Well.
Mr. Fosmoen: I'm not talking about Mr. Andets:ont l'nt talking shout'the 1hdu§:t1 ies'
general.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, then I could be wrong of who I'tn trying to cast in the dark
shadow, but I'm saying I'm not going for it regardless of who proposes.
Mr. Fosmoen: Well, we certainly agree with you sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: I read it wrong.
Mayor Ferre: That leaves us with one issue and that is whether or not we have
commercial advertising on bus benches in areas where there are four lanes and
there are multi...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me Mr. Mayor, whoa! I did read it right....Somebody better
backtrack. Number three, no bidder will be awarded more than two of four
districts except in the event there is only one bidder.
Mr. Merrill: Read the second page, request number three. Let me read that to you.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer... you're probably a one page reader.
Mr. Merrill : Request number three, proposals or conditions that already exist
the Commission can if they choose split between two, three, or four bidders. The
request, however, wants the Commission to pre -agree to the two bid concept,
obvi.ously this is a Commission choice. It should be understood that one of the
considerations is the most advantageous bid and the type of appearance of the
bus benches to be provided under the contract. The Commission may wish to
establish a standard for street furniture to be provided by a single bidder.
What I'm telling you is you have that... you can do that now. What they're asking
you to do is to preclude the possibility by policy statement of this Commission
that you would award it to at least more than one bidder. Now, that's the
recommendation of the committee. You asked me to meet with the committee of the
representatives...
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Merrill: ... and I just presented it to you.
Mr. Plummer: I'm telling you how I'm going to vote.
Mr. Merrill: Oh, that's fine, that's fine.
Mr. Anderson: That was not our position by the way, we felt that whoever had
the most advantageous bid and we don't know who that's going to be,should get it,
that's the purpose of public bidding.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I'm here to get the best bid and the best return for this City
I can;and I'm going to.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. I think that's all been said before now, so it's a question
you got two items, one has been clarified and that is the question of the lowest
bid gets it and it's not divided into little ...
Mr. Plummer: No, the highest bid.
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Mayor Ferre: Well, the highest bid, of course., yes. I stand corrected.
Now, the other one is a question of whether or not we would allow commercial
advertising in bus benches whether it's four lanes and where. it is. a multi*.
(what'd you call that?)
Mr. Fosmoen: Multi -family.
Mayor Ferre: multi -family residential. That means that as long as there
is single family residential there wouldn't be. For example, along North Miami
Avenue which is four laned you couldn't have commercial advertising because
that's all single-family, right?
Mr. Fosmoen: I don't know what this speaks to....
Mayor Ferre: What?
Mr. Fosmoen:... zoned single- family, there may be single.fatiily rises
Mr. Plummer: Not what exist but zoned.
Mayor Ferre: I see.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm sure South Miami Avenue is R-1:
Mayor Ferre: Did I say South Miami Avenue...
Mr. Plummer:
Mayer Ferre: Well, I'm sorry. Alright, South, you
Now, for example, South Bayshore Drive that you get
so there they could have commercial advertising, is
know, South Miami Avenue.
into multi -family residential,
that... ?
Mr. Merrill: In the area of Mercy Hospital and so forth, they might be able to
have it. I think most of the rest of it is R-1.
Mayor Ferre: Now, what happens under what they're asking for, let's say like
U.S. 1 when there's a residential lot,or like certain parts of Coconut Grove
where R-1 abutts U.S.1?
Mr. Fosmoen: They would not be permitted to have advertising.
Mayor Ferre: Anywhere on U.S.1?
Mr. Fosmoen: No, where it's zoned single-family residential...
Mayor Ferre: Within that little area, but if across the street it
differently then there they would could have a...
Mr. Fosmoen: .. a duplex.
Mayor Ferie: I see. Well, I see your point and I guess,.. I think I agree with
it but I'm not too sure. No, I mean, philosophically I agree, I just... I want
to hear your argument on it.
Mr. Anderson: Well, we felt that number one, it would be a very minimal type o
advertising...
Mayor Ferre: Why?
Mr. Anderson: ... bus benches,they're not gaint advertising signs or anything like
that, they're minimal. See, when Rent-A-Benchwent to court we had an ordinance
that nobody said had to be changed and the Administration decided change.it, and at
that time you could put bus benches practically anywhere. Okay, we're going to
eliminate all those single-family zones, all the duplex zones, all of the R-3,
R-4, R-5 zones, which are not adjacent to an arterial street, and we're eliminating
the Downtown area,and we're eliminating the 200 best locations to be placed...
Mayor Ferre: Well, why are you eliminating Downtown? Why are they eliminating
Downtown?
Mr. Fosmoen: With Bus Bench advertising?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
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Mt. Fosmoen: We spent sometime with the DDA,on that issue and the C4,3 bisttict
which is the immediate commetcial core. we're looking at a street furniture.
without advertisment.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, so you're eliminating a big part of town then. So, let
me ask you this, are we going so far out on a lima on this thing that we"te
going to make it commercially unfeasible .,...
Mr. Merrill: No.
Mayor Ferre: ... for anybody to... 7
Mr. Plummer: Well, you say no.
Mr. Merrill: We've attached a list of locations ti
idea of what the changes. represent.
Mr. Fosmoen; 840 locations would be permitted.,
Mayor Ferre: 340 locations...
Mr. Fosmoen: 840..
Mayor Ferre: Eight hundred and..
Mr. Merrill: With advertising. Now you can have
Mr. Plummer; How many without advertising?
Mr. Fosmoen: 20% of it.
Mr. Plummer: 20% of whatever they put in it.
Mr. Merrill: Well, it actually amounts to 25% of whatever they
ratio is 80/20..
Mayor Ferre: 20% is 160 benches, will that be
We'll have to pay for the others then will we?
enoughto cover all the areas.?
Mr. Merrill: Whether or not they're needed we would go to the bus company to
find out where the highest usuage bus stops are and we'd put bus benches without
advertising.
Mayor Ferre: If you get your way let's say along Brickell Avenue and South
Bayshore Drive, all of Downtown and all that.
Mr. Plummer: You know, I want to remind you, okay. I want to remind you that
this thing was passed by me by my making the motion to be absolute guaranteed
that it would not cost this City any money. I don't want people coming back in
here screaming at me that they don't have a bus bench and this City is going to
be forced into a posture of having to provide that service.
Mr. Merrill; But we didn't say we were going to provide a bus bench at every bus
stop either.
Mr. Plummer; They do now.
Mr. Merrill; No, they don't. Not every bus stop.
Mr. Plummer: They don't. Okay, I'm just reminding you Mr. Merrill because I'm
going to send them straight to you sir.
Mr. Merrill: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: You're going to sit out there with your little umbrella...
Mayor Ferre: Well, now tell me again, tell me again now. How many bus benches
do we have now?
Mr. Plummer: 1400.
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Mr. Anderson: Just under a thousand with advertising.
Mr. Merrill: Now remember that you could have mote than'one bus
advertising per bus stop.
Mayor Ferre: Yes,
Mr. Merrill: Also we're permitted to have them at school bus stops., %4e hs\ieii''t
considered that in the proposal.
Mayor Ferre: School bus...?
Mr. Merrill: But in the state at large allows bus benches at echool bus stops.
Mr. Plummer: Freebies or commercial?
Mr. Merrill: Commercial, but they're unstabled. We
they are from year-to-year so that might... That's
look into.
Mayor Ferre:
now have someone under
don't know exactly where
something that we could
Well, the point as I understand what you're saying is that we
a thousand, what you're proposing is there'll be 860
places.
Mr. Merrill: Locations.
Mayor Ferre: Locations where they could whether or not they want to
Who decides whether they have to, they do or we do?
Mr. Merrill:
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Merrill:
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Merrill:
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
sir?
or not.
They do. They do it based on a marketable advertising locations.
Okay.
Where they can sell the ads...
Well,what about under the new proposal?
Provided it's within the zoned area under their contract.
No, no, the 20% that are going to be non-commercial, we decide that.
The question is 20% of 860 is 160 some odd assuming that they placed...
O Mr. Merrill: You keep going back to locations, the possibilities of putting more
than one bus bench per bus stop.
Mayor Ferre: I understand
argument aakebecause, yes,
lot of places that you got
because it isn't worth it.
we get $100 and... Let's
Mr. Merrill: 250.
Mayor Ferre: 200...
Mr. Merrill : 250.
assuming that there's 800 or 1,000 benches just for
they can put two benches there but there are an awful
to say it's okay, but they just don't put a sign,
So just for argument sake if we have 1,000 that means
say...
Mayor Ferre: 20% isn't that what you said?
Mr. Merrill: Well, the ratio is 80/20 but it really works out
what they actually have there would fit within that ratio,.
Mayor Ferre: I see, so it 's 20, ... I see okay.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question.
Mayor Ferre; Out of 80/20 so it`s a 25%, so we get 25Q,. NQw; Wad tbat be.
sufficient to cover the areas you're excluding?
Mr. Mettill: We113 the alternative. is to put advertising in residential areas::..
Mt. Plummer: That's not the question Mt. Merrill.
Mayor Ferre: The question is 250 non-commercial advertising benchessufficient
to have benches in the areas where they cannot advertise?
Mr. Merrill: No, there's no way that 250 is going to cover all of the retaining
bus stops.
Mayor Ferre: Well, how many ...
Mr. Plummer: That's not the question...
Mr. Merrill: Okay,
Mayor Ferre: How many remaining...?
Mr. Merrill: Let me understand the question.
Mr: Plummer: The question is in the areas which you are now going to prohibit
advertising on bus benches, is the figure you're using of 250 adequate to coVet
that area?
Mr. Merrill: In areas where they'd have to remove their bus benches as a result
of this ...
Mr. Plummer: Remove the advertising.
Mayor Ferre: He's already said no.
Mr. Merrill: I don't know. I don't know how many of those that they have in
residential areas.
Mr. Plummer: By God you should know because that's come down to the bottomline
is you better not let nobody come back here I got to spend a penny for bus benches.
Now, you know, that should be to me... look, the first and four most concern I
want to remind you that 7-years ago I took an awful lot of heat in this Commission
because I happened to think that they provided a service. I still feel that way.
Mr. Merrill: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Now, I took a lot of heat when Mel Reese wanted to put this City
In a bus bench business at the tune of $150,000 a year. Now, I'm still where I
was 7 -years and 4-years ago, that they provide a service. Now, are we going to
provide the service to the public who ride buses at no expense to this City as
AMIL we have it today? That's the bottomline, and if you can't answer that question
I'm very concerned.
Mr. Merrill: Well, that would require a survey of the entire City to determine
where those bus benches are within the residential areas.
Mr. Plummer: Well, to me if you haven't done that Mr. Merrill or whoever is
responsibile hasn't given this Commission the total picture because the first
question as you'll recall I asked is this going to cost the City any money?
And, your answer was no.
BACKGROUND COMMENT MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Now, Mr. Merrill, you're well of the fact that people that have
bus benches today in their residential area with commercial are not really that
concerned as we seem to be. They're concerned about where are they going to sit.
Mr. Merrill: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Their back is to the advertising, and I can tell you without question
if I lived in that area and I rode a bus and today I some place to sit and tomorrow
I don't,you know what's going to happen they're going to be down here telling this
Commission about it....
Mayor Ferre: Alright, J. L., okay...
Mr, Plummer; .., and you know what's going to happen we're going to buying bus
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benches we can't afford.
Mayor Ferret Hey, you've trade your point, let's wove alohg�
Mr. Anderson: May I say one other thing Mr. Mayor?
Mr. Plummer: How can I move along when they don't have inforMation'�
Mayor Ferre: Well, with that we're going to move along.
Mr. Anderson: This says that we have 840 locations and I think that we're
going to lose 200. of these locations which are of course, our best locations
to bus shelters that means another 40 or so free, you know without advertising
bus benches that would also be lost. I don't know if that's correct or not
because...
Mr. Merrill: We estimated that there would be 20.0 locations, it doesn't have
to be 200 locations. It could be 400 put in a bus shelter. It's inappropriate
to have bus bench and a shelter at the same location.
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Merrill: So they would lose some of the 840 locations.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, you're going to decide what gets shelter and what
gets bench.
Mr. Merrill: Not me...
alb Mayor Ferre: Who makes that decision?
Mr. Merrill: ... but it will b.e the Administration.,
Mayor Ferre: ... when I'm talking to you,always. I never mean anything personal
in this Commission, I'm always talking about you, the City of Miami Administration
now if you can't speak for it then pass it on to somebody who can..
Mr. Fosmoen: Us with Dade County.
Mayor Ferre: Sir?
Mr. Fosmoen: Us with Dade County,will determine where shelter should go.
Mayor Ferre: Is that written within this?
Mr. Fosmoen: You mean Dade County?
Mayor Ferre: No, no, is this in item 11, isthat clearly understood within the
context of what we would be voting on?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Specified in that line, because that'•s what I'•m interested in.
Mr. Plummer: Is there two different distinct contracts between one bus benches
two bus shelters ...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes.
Mr. Plummer: You hope it's yes. Is there any of the companies that you have been
talking with who are in both of the business?
Mr. Merrill: One.
Mayor Ferre: Now, wait a moment, that's not what you were talking about as far
as bidding that would... whoever gets the benches gets the shelters.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferre; Oh, no.,.
Mr. Merrill: Different companies,
Mayor Ferre; I'm not going to go for that at At
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Mayor Fette: Okay,
ir. Plummer: ... okay. Nowt my objection to going to two bidders just to split
the bidders, no. Two different bids, yes. One for benches, one for sheltetsi
yes. I agree to that..
Mr. Merrill: That's right.
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Mayor Ferre: Okay. That's what I want to make sure we're talking about the
same thing. What you're saying is you don't want the benches split in two or
three or four. I agree with that, but there is distinction between_somebody
who bids for shelters and somebody who bids for benches.
?r. Plummer: ... that company that does them both.
Mayor Ferre: Of course, of course, if you ... exact same company as the low
bidder I got no problems with that at alit ok..
Mr. Fernandez: May I address the Council please?,,,.My name is Joaquin Fernandez,
I represent Rent -A -Bench, who maybe started this unfortunate thing the way it's
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turning out. There used to be like 1,400 locations in the City...
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mr. Fernandez: ... everybody has a bus bench. Mr. Plummer is right, including
in residential zone.. The way this thing has been chopped down we're talking about
800 locations, a quarter of which will have no advertising, so we're down to
600 and then 20.0 of those 600's are going to be taking for shelters, so we're
now to ...
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Mayor Ferre: Wait, wait a minute your facts are wrong. Your facts are just
simply wrong.
Mr. Merrill: Right, the 840 locations are where they'll be advertising.;'
not changing that other than for the bus shelters......
Mr. Fernandez: So it's 8...
Mr. Merrill: The 25% is an addition. The 80./40 ...
Mr. Fernandez: Ok. Alright, we'll take those numbers 840 minus 200 is 640 that's
half of what's available now. My answer to you Mr. Plummer is that with...
they've chopped this thing down to such a low number where this thing is almost
at the brink of being economically unfeasible to the point especially when you
split this thing up into four zones then there is the possibility that someone
may perhaps end up with more than one zone whether you want to admit it or not
because each zone is going to be bid separately, so you are looking at the possibility
that four companies could very well end up , ok, providing a service to this City
and there isn't anybody that's going to provide t'.at many bus benches to cover
your residential area that those benches are not ,ust going to be there and there
just isn't enough freebees to cover everything be ause this thing has been chopped
down to the point where just about barely economical and I strongly recommend that
you favor the recommendation of allowing additional benches in the arterial areas,
that's number one. And, number two we've been saddled with a tremendous hardship
here because we have to bid on a contract for a rezone and we're bidding for
x-number of benches and then sometime in the future and God knows when somebody
is going to say you know those 300 locations that you bid we want 150 because you
got the best locations for shelters and we bid on a 5-year contract that we
estimated we were going to have 300 benches and maybe two years from now or a
year from now we only got 150 benches there providing revenue. Unless someone
can sit down and tell me where those 200 shelters are going to be in this City
I don't think anybody can intelligently bid on what's going to happen because
for all I know all those 200 locations maybe in one zone and if I'm holding the
franchise for that zone I'm not going to like it, I want to be out of business.
Mayor Ferre; Alright.
Mr, Merrill; Mr. Mayor, we have asked the shelter people to give us a list of
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locations with eight things. that the shelter could be. constructed. Thatat'a
a higher investment in it
Mayor Ferre; Sure, and obviously they're going to choose the best locations'.
and obviously in my opinion they deserve the first locations because they'-te
going to cone up with the biggest investment,
Mr. Merrill: No, what we're trying to do is find out froth them Where the
feasible locations are.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
Mr, Merrill: Then we'll go back to the bus company and say, where is. the
greatest need and we will be participating in that decision, where do you need
to put the bus shelter, how is going to look as so far as street furniture is,
concerned in the right-of-way, where will be the best service? They're not
going to be the ones to decide where the shelters are going. We're going to
put them where the people need them the most.
Mayor Ferre: Well, now let me ...
Mr. Merrill: Transfer points and so forth.
Mayor Ferre: Let me understand this, when you halle..6 shelter4ou;,
bench. In other words...
Mr. Fosnioeu: You have a bench within the shelter,
Mayor Ferre: Oh, oh..
Mr. Fosmoen: Okay?
Mayor Ferre; In other words, there's a shelter and there's a bench there.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: So...
Mr.. Fosmoen: But it will probably...
Mr. Plummer:
shelters?
Let me ask this question, is there going to be. advertising
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir.
Mr. Merrill: Then there will also be some free shelters.
Mr. Plummer: What about the shelters that go in a residential area?
Mr. Merrill: Okay, they will be without advertising in those locations where
we ... we have to reach an agreement with the Bus Shelter people to determine
what the ratio would be of getting free shelters, because there's a higher
investment...
Mr. Plummer: Who's going to designate where the shelters go?
Mr. Fosmoen: We will.
Mr. Plummer: We will.
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Are we going to be on an 80/20 with the shelters?
Mr. Merrill: No, see we have to work... that's what I'm trying to explain
you there's a higher investment in putting a shelter than it is a bench.
to
W. Plummer: You don't concede for one minute under that arrangement that there/8
going to be one shelter where there's not allowed advertising.
Mayor Ferre: Of course,
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Mt, iettlli: Yes, they do..
Mayor Ferre: Yes., of course., and they do that ail over the Worlds. Mt, Plume:
let the ►..
Mr► Merrill: It's the number we haven't arrived at.., there will be some.'
shelters without advertising that we can put in residential areas,
Mr. Plummer: But it's not underneath the ....
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Merrill ...
Mr. Merrill: No, we have to work that with the companies to detertiine What
capability is of them to provide free shelters.
Mayor Ferre: Clark?
Mr. Merrill: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer (repeat), the bus shelter business started in Western
Europe many years ago and it has expanded into a very, very large and substantial
business . In most European cities they no longer have bus benches, they have
bus shelters and there the government of London or Paris or Marseilles or Rome
or what have you have contractual arrangements with these companies on a bid
basis. Some of those contracts provide for different percentages of bus shelters
without any advertising.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Some of those shelters have clocks,others have road maps of the
city or where you can buy tickets like in Switzerland to get on a trolley car
in Zurich, beautiful bus shelters all out of glass and there's no advertising
on them. Now, some of them have flower beds, maintained by the Shelter Company.
There are all kinds of variations on that. Sometimes the contract is that they
have to maintain the flower beds and they maintain a whole area full of flowers
in Zurich or Paris that that's part of the deal that they made with the City.
Now, this is all going to be done on a bid basis, contractual basis. The City
has to decide where and what, you know, and the City may decide that at the
transfer point between two important bus intersections they may want three shelters,
one of them with a clock, one of the with the City of Miami street map, and one
of them with advertising, or none with advertising, that's all a negotiated thing
that obviously has to be put as part of the bid document. Now, it works all over
the world. It now works in Montreal. It now works in Toronto. They just started
in New York and in many other cities in California and I'm sure Miami is going
to be up there with them. That's not what we're talking about today. Can we
get back to the main issue? And, that is, whether or not, I think we only have
one thing left as I see it anyway and that is whether or not advertising is
allowed in areas where there are four lanes and multi -family residential section.
Now, I went over to Dick Fosmoen and I just asked him and I'll ask him to repeat
what he just told me, because I said my concern is what this gentleman was saying
and that is what Plummer has been saying is, is it going to be financially feasible
for us to get sufficient bus benches in the residential community and in the
downtown and in the areas that we've excluded with this system, I mean we've got
to get something that bounces out, sure, I'd like to have all benches without
advertising but, you know, what's reasonable?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, if we can, apparently, the Bus Industry feels that some
of their best locations are on this four lane multi -family zoned arterials. For
every eight they put in we're going to pick up two which means we can provide
benches in single-family areas without advertising. We can also provide benches
in multi -family areas that are on two lane streets. I guess what I'm saying is
that the sense of this Commission that it'll provide more benches throughout
this community. I don't have any particular problem with the advertising benches
on four lane arterials.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that does it for me.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, in multiple.
Mr. Fosmoen: Only in mulit-family areas,
Mr, Plummer: Okay,
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Mayer ferret That solves. it for met without it asan amendement.. Plummet, you
want to take that as an amendment?
(COMMISSIONER PLUMMER NOT USING MICROPHONE -- BEARLY AUDIBLE)
ltr. Plummer: Fine, I... Mr. Mayor, look, the. only thing is, you knows I'm
sitting here and I'm talking with Reboso. This thing went on for years and the
only thing that was attacked in court was the so-called exclusivity,
that's what was attacked in court, nothing about the. bus benches or anything
like that, you know, here we all of sudden have revenue coming into the City
and now through all of this advance planning and high technology,we're throwing
ourselves into a jackpot ... I sometimes wonder it comes from, I really do.
Mr. Mayor, I have no objections to it, none whatsoever, I don't want the City
to go into Bus Benches Business or the Bus Shelter Business. I move that we
alter this and put out the bidding to allow four lane roads where there exists
multiple R-3 or higher -
Mayor Ferre: With that as an amendment Mr. Plummer moves item #11. Is there
a second?
Mrs. Gordon: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second. Further discussion. Read the ordinance.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Ca11 the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 54-36, 54-37, 54-39, AND
54-41, OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, BY DELINEATING AREAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REGULATING
THE PLACEMENT OF BUS BENCHES AND/OR BUS SHELTER STRUCTURES
THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING COMPANIES AND
BY PARTIALLY SETTING FORTH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE
AGREEMENT UNDER WHICH SUCH PLACEMENT SHALL BE AUTHORIZED;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 14, 1978,
it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the ordinance
was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
*Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8843.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
public.
ON ROLL CALL:
*Mrs. Gordon: ... applied the amendment to it...
Mr. Plummer; Yes..
Mrs. Gordon: ... did you say the amendment in it?
Mr. Knox: I didn't read it in the title, but it'll be included in the
the ordinance Mrs. Gordon.
and announced
and to the
Mrs. Gordon; And, the amendment was for clarification,..
Mayor Ferre: That...
Mrs, Gordon: No four zone, four lame arterial only.
Mayor Ferre; Right,
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Mt. Anderson: Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre; Sure.
Mr, Anderson: I just wanted to make one other comment and I didn't want to
confuse it with the things that we brought up before but we had one other
suggestion which we talked about ourselves in the industry and I know the ordinance
is. passed on Second Reading but we want to throw out one other thing to you. Since
these bus. benches and shelters will be on public streets and public rights -of -way
we would have no objection and we would actually like to see a provision in the
ordinance that said that there were no tobacco products or alcoholic beverages to
be advertised on them.
Mrs... Gordon; Okay, voluntary exclusion,that's his, right?
Mr. Anderson: We would like to see an amendment, you know, it doesn't have to be
today, hut saying that on these advertising bus benches or shelters that tobacco
products, the cigarettes and so forth and alcoholic beverages be excluded from
the advertising.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes they're selling advertising, they know who their customers will
be.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay. Mr. Mayor, I'11 like to introduce to you my
Merl.ar and she'll raise her hand you're know who she is.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: And, her two sons, Gene and Kenny Merker. I just
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's very nice, Rose, I've met your niece
to see you.
Mrs. Gordon: I know you'all met yet but...
Mayor Ferre: I've met her before.
Mrs. Gordon: T happen to be very proud of her and her sons.
Mayor Ferre: Well, thank you for introducing them, Rose.
want you know them.
before.
I'm happy
32. FIRST READING - MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we're on item #12, which is. on Firs.t Reading, making
appropriations for the Fiscal Year ending September 30th, City Manager recommends.
Plummer moves. Alright, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'll tell you what you didn't say that without a little
advanced knowledge of my feelings. If it is agreeable with the rest of the
Commission I will in fact surprise you and move this motion today on First Reading.
I think there's a lot of work to go in between now and Second Reading and many
things that need to be done but for the words of that great intelligence of the
professional I will move that it be done now strictly as a mechanical time running
machine. I so move,
Major Ferre: I can't believe it. It's been motioned. Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer; You can't get a second.
Mayor Ferre; I'll second it, because I think mechancially Reboso seconds it.
I think.you're absolutely correct and we realize that it doesn't mean anything
I hope you realize that. This is just a mechanical time expediting item. I
wasp..... I thought that Mr. Plummer would talk. at least a half an hour before he
did that, but I'm gratified and I thank you. There's a motion and a second.
M;, Plummer; I reservethat for Second Reading.
Mayor Fette: Read the ordinance please.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979, PROVIDING THAT IF
ANY SECTION, CLAUSE, OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT THE REMAINING
PROVISIONS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
33. FIRST READING - DEFINING & DESIGNATING THE
TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE
PURPOSE OF TAXATION; FIXING THE PILLAGE RATE.
Mayor Ferre: On First Reading, an ordinance defining and designating the
territorial limits of the City of Miami for the purpose of taxation. Mr. Plummer
moves. Commissioner Reboso seconds. Further discussion. Manager recommends.
Read the ordinance.
Ms. Lynch: I'd like to speak on that ordinance if you don't mind Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes, of course.
Ms. Lynch: As a property owner and taxpayer in the City of Miami, I think that
it's about time that you seriously considered what increase in the tax millage
Mr. ...
Mayor Ferre: Joyce, please, what we're doing now is we're designating the
territorial limits of the City of Miami for the purposes of taxation.
Ms. Lynch: But Section 2 of the ordinance
Mayor Ferre: And, then fixing the millage,... ok, I guess you're entitled to...
Ms, Lynch: Right, on fixing the millage, Section 2 of that ordinance states that
themillage will be 10.000 mills for the General Fund.
Mayor Ferre: Right..
Ms. Lynch: And 4.487 for other payment of principal and interest and charges.
Now last year the millage was 13.20 in the City millage. The Dade County
Commission has decreased the millage for those people living in the County. The
City by all means if it's having budget problems should look internally as
opposed to externally by increasing the taxes of property owners and furthermore
Mayor it's just like my inviting you into my house for dinner. If I invite you
into my house for dinner and then you come into my house and you then you tell
me to throw out my furniture and change the painting, paint all the walls and
do major changes and then leave,I'm still paying those bills. This is what's
happening in the City of Miami today. There are no Assistant City Managers, only
three Directors or Assistant Directors that are living in the City of Miami today
that are making decisions for the City and the City's taxpayers and in their
making decisions they're changing the course of our City without any citizen input
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or any request for major citizen input and I as a taxpayer am very opposed to
increases specifically for General Fund purposes,for the increase of the
professionals who come into our City and then move to Kendall and other areas
of the County and we have to pay for those increases in their salaries and I'M
opposed to it and I hope that the City Commission will definitely consider that
because I think that it's unfair to the taxpayers, and I think that it's also
pathetic that it's number. 13 on the agenda for today. What you're asking for is
the citizens revolt.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Joyce, don't go away totally uninformed. This Commission
does provide three separate days of public hearings, which the taxpayers are
asked to come before this Commission and express their likes or dislikes.
Unfortunately, in the same way that the people are asked to go out and vote itt
elections,very few people take advantage of that opportunity.
Ms. Lynch: Because those are basically during the day Mr. Plummer.
in the City work.
Most people
Mayor Ferre: Joyce, we will have hearings at night, ok, if we have too and I'
sure we will have to as we did last year.
Ms. Lynch: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: And, we provided in the public hearing process one day meeting,
one evening meeting, one afternoon meeting so that everybody would have a
different opportunity and you'll have yours and I'm sure that we will hear from you again.
Ms. Lynch: But, if you're voting on this ordinance today does that not..
Mayor Ferre: No.
Mr. Plummer: No, this is just First Reading.
Mayor Ferre: This is a First Reading and this is a mechanical procedure.
Mrs. Gordon: It doesn't set anything. It just sets the wheels in motion.
That's what Mr. Plummer said...
Mayor Ferre: It starts the time mechancism, ok.
Mrs. Gordon: On Second Reading that sets the entire process.
Mr. Plummer: If you come to the hearing at the Police Station don't bring
car.
Mayor Ferre: Now, we have a motion and a second. Read the ordinance.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE DEFINING AND DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL
LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TAXATION; FIXING THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINING
OCTOBER 1, 1978 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979,
CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso
and passed on its. first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.
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34. FIRST READING - APPROVING EXPENDITURES REQUIRED BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING FOR GUSMAN
HALL AND THE OLYMPIA BUILDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 78-79
Mayor Ferre: Now, take up 14, which is the Olympia Building and the Off -Street
Parking.
Mr. Plummer: This is a public hearing, isn't it?
Mayor Ferret This is a First Reading, it's the same as the last one.
Mr. Plummer: It's not a public hearing?
Mayor Ferret No. Mr. Plummer moves the First Reading. Mr. Reboso seconds the
First Reading. Read the ordinance please.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING EXPENDITURES REQUIRED BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING FOR THE
OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE
OLYMPIA BUILDING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 1978 AND ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 1979; AND ALSO APPROVING THE ENUMERATED
SOURCES OF REVENUE FROM SAID OPERATION; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso.
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT:
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Mr. La Baw, is he still here? ... okay, we voted on it First
Reading. I just want to make sure that we don't have any questions so that we'll
get to the public hearing or the second that they haven't been asked. See, you
know, we got to have an opportunity to do that with the Manager a little bit
more often.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, as you recommended sir, I've sat down with Mr. La Baw
and two other fine gentlemen, including the Colonel and I had the opportunity
in about an hour and a half session to ask all my questions and got clarifications
and got assurances that in the coming months and years that this Commission would
be made better advised as to what is going on with the Off -Street Parking Authority
so that we could be fully at all times,knowledgeable of the operation and that's
what I was really looking for ...
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Plummer: ... and I have already avail myself to that opportunity.
Mayor Ferre: Very good.
Mayor Ferre; Did we call theroll on 14?
Mr. Ongie: Yes., sir, we did,
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35, AMEND SECTION 2-9 OF THE COCE "ORDER OF BUSINESS
AND RULES OF PROCEDURE"
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we're on item 15, First Reading, amending Section 2-9
of the City Code, entitled"Order of Business and Rules of Procedure" whereby
all resolutions shall be briefly described on an agenda furnished each member
of the City Commission 5 days before each City Commission meeting. City
Manager recommends. Mr. Plummer moves.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, with pleasure.
Mayor Ferre: What's that?
Mr. Plummer: With pleasure.
Mayor Ferre: Yes. And, Mrs. Gordon seconds. Further discussion on
First Reading. Call the roll. Read the ordinance.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Alright, call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2-9 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ENTITLED "ORDER OF BUSINESS
AND RULES OF PROCEDURE" BY AMENDING THE REQUIREMENT
THAT RESOLUTIONS BE READ BY TITLE; AND FURTHER
PROVIDING THAT A BRIEF WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF EACH
RESOLUTION TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSON
BE FURNISHED THE COMMISSIONERS 5 DAYS PRIOR TO THE
MEETING AT WHICH SAID RESOLUTION IS SCHEDULED FOR
CONSIDERATION; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Vice Mayor Reboso
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT:
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.
36. AMEND SECTION 1 OF 8716, THE ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVE
MENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE BY MAKING ADJUSTMENTS
IN THE 1970 HIGIHWAY GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND
AND STORM SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item J64 the City Manager recommends,.. This. is. the
Annual Capital Improvement Appropriation Ordinanceand so on 1970 Highway
General Obligation Bond Fund and 70 Storm Sewer and so on, on First Reading.
Plummer moves. Gibson seconds. Manager recommends. Wait a minute this is
First and Second Reading. Alright, so any questions on it? Why does it have to
be First and Second at the same time?
41.
Mr. Grimm: The contract is ready to be signed Mr. Mayor and this provides the
money.
Mayor Ferre: Any questions on this? Anybody have any problems on this?
Alright, Read the ordinance..
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD);.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll on 16..
Mrs. Gordon: Just they transfer adjustment figure, thisis
correct?
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND RESPONSE MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8716,
ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, AS. AMENDED, THE ANNUAL CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1978, BY MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE
1970 HIGHWAY GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND AND THE 1970 STORM
SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE
REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A
VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION; SAID ADJUSTMENT BEING REQUIRED FOR THE COMPLETION
OF THE FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT H-4372-A AND FLAGLER
STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT EXTENSION H-4391-A (3RD BIDDING).
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner (Rev.)
Gibson for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days by a vote of
not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission -
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.8844.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and copies were
available to the public,
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37. AMEND SECTION 39-13.1 OF THE CODE - REVISING THE
FEES AT THE CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSES.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we're now on item 1117 on First Reading amending Section
39-13.1 of the City Code for the purpose of revising the fees at the City of
Miami Golf Course. Commissioner Reboso moves. Father Gibson seconds. Further
discussion. Read the ordinance.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 39-13.1 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
REVISING THE FEES AT THE CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSES;
CONTAINING A REPEALER CLAUSE AND A SEVERABILITY
PROVISION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Vice Mayor Reboso and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
38. AMEND 39-5(1)(A) OF THE CODE BY REVISING FEES FOR
USE OF MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOLS.
Mayor Ferre: On 18,First Reading, an ordinance amending subsection (a)
paragraph (1) section 39-5 of the City Code by revising the amount charged for
the use of City of Miami Municipal Swimming Pools. Plummer moves that....
No, you don't want to move it.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have no objections to moving that but let me ...I
want assurances from the Administration and the Department because you know, one
of the things as Father says being around for quite a while is you remember. You
know, I can remember people coming up shaking fingers at this Commission when this
was proposed before stating everything from the fact that we were racists,to the
fact that we were going to create riots in the street and that's where we came up
with the famous 25 cans admissions to pools so that we didn't exclude people from
in fact, the availability of the pools. All I'm saying is I realize the cost of
doing business is going up but maybe other people don't, and I want to make sure
that we're not going to have those same fingers come up and pointing at us and
shaking fingers at us that we're excluding the lower income people from the
availability of pools, so I ask the Administration and Mr. Howard, I guess, is
that still in your bailiwick? That they make a comment ... that this Commission
be fully informed so if in fact we do have those people coming again we want to
show them who did it.
Mrs. Gordon: The two classes that I see that would be most affected are still
not being charged the fee that youth who brings the cans and the Senior Citizen
residents.
Mr. Howard: We still get numerous use coming into the pools giving us 25 free
cans they're not excluded. Anybody over 62 and who is a resident is also allowed
into the pool free. We haven't increased the pool fee in 4-years and it's a
very moderate increase only 10C for a child making it 25. ... A non-resident
we have increased higher than that because we feel it should be for the
City of Miami.
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Mts. Gotdon:
Mayot Ferret
tesident.
Mr. Plummer:
l agree..
Yes but the foneeidelitl .....
Please, I don't have
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer:
But I want it on the
it in rememberance to history that
Mayor Ferre:
Plummer.
Mr. Plummer:
All you got to do is
t i lint taottied about the. hotiqk
any problem with. that..
record that we did discuss. this item keeping
we went through before..
get 25 cans- and you go swimming fot free
I'm going to get at least 100,000.from the Orange Bowl so.0n not
worried about it.
Rev. Gibson: Let me ask, how do you tell who
Mayor Ferre:
Identification.
Mr. Howard: Right,
that they would have
Rev.. Gibson: I see,
s a resident?
we either ask them for their drivers. licens.e or any tax bill
. We very rarely question a child it'•s. usually the. adults.
okay.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Plummer
Further discussion on 16. Oh,
moves and Reboso second, or Gibson seconds.
I'm sorry not on 16 on 18. Read the Ordinance.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTION (a) PARAGRAPH (1)
OF SECTION 39.-5 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY REVISING THE AMOUNT CHARGED FOR USE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI MUNICIPAL SWIMMING POOLS;
PROVIDING A REPEALER CLAUSE AND PROVIDING A
SEVERABILITY PROVISION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner (Rev.
Gibson and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies wereavailableto the members of the City Commission and to the public.
39. AMEND SECTION 39-16.1 OF THE CODE - REBISING FEES
FOR CHILD DAY CARE PROGRAM - REFERRED BACK TO
DEPARTMENT FOR FURTHER STUDY.
Mayor Ferre: Item 19 on First Reading. These are the fees charged for the
Day Care Program. Alright.
Mrs, Gordon: Can we hear from Joyce before we...?
Mayor Ferre: First of all, Joyce before I recognize you, Mt. Manager, does a
body want to address themselves to this?
Mr. Grassier Yes, Mr. Al Howard will speak to the question,' Mr, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Al.
Mr. Howard: Yes. We have our fees now are just about the lowest in Dade County.
We've also within the past year taken over a Day Care Center, the Edison Center,
which has increased our cost. We have some people right now there fees are
averaging about 13C a day in the Edison Center for Child Day Care which is 13
an hour. The increase here is just a $2.00 increase per week which is 40c a day
across the board from all four centers. We have found in some of the centers
where they're paying as little as 75Q a day for Day Care which includes meals
quality day care, education, and supervision. We found that some of the people
there are making as much as $17,000 and they're only paying as much as 75e or a
$1.00 a day. We feel that the charge of $2.00 a week is really very minimal for
the services that they get. We also find that now that we have a Trust & Agency
Fund for the Day Care the money is taken ... it remains in the Day Care. We must
begin to put into the program what we're taking out of it. This money would help
into some degree to improve the facilities, improve the programs and also to
improve training for the staff, so we feel that it's a very justified request
we're making for the $2.00 a week. We do not feel that it would be an imposition
on the people. It's a very moderate cost. The average cost in Dade County for
Child Day Care is about $28.00 a day, without sliding scales.
Mr. Plummer: .... Mr. Howard, I'm going to say the same thing as briefly as
possible as I said last year. Your fee schedule, excuse me don't take that
personal. The proposed fee schedule is without a doubt the host ridiculous, asinine
thing I have ever seen in my life how anyone ... what number item is that?
Ms. Lynch: 19.
Mayor Ferre : 19.
Mr. Plummer: 19, let me go to that thing. Under your proposed fee schedule, as
I recall, that if you have more than one child you get down to the point where it
could infact be 10Q a day for a child, you have I think three children. ... Yes,
okay. Alright, you're getting down to under a dollar. Now, the way this City
does business there is no way in hell's green acre that you can even process for
a dollar. I'd rather see you give it for nothing than to cost this City money in
the processing. Now, I, you know, it doesn't cost the City any less whether it's
one child or many children, okay? You know, it cost us the same for per child
regardless. Now, you've accepted and adopted a model that other schools have
adopted and I see the rational behind it. But to come down under a dollar a day
for a child,to me it doesn't make... give it for nothing. Give it for nothing„ but
don't, you know, we probably cost around here $2.00 a day for paper work and
we're charging $1.00. If we didn't charge it we wouldn't have the paper work
we're a dollar ahead. So, you know, I said it last year, I've said it again
this year. I just think that the fee schedule is unrealistic that's all. I'd
rather give it away. I got no problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Joyce.
Ms. Lynch: The fee schedule is discriminatory to middle income people for example,
at my income level on the new fee schedule I would be paying $40.00 a week for my
child and a non-resident of the City in the same ordinance would be paying $22,50.
Mrs. Gordon: Why?
Ms. Lynch: I don't know, .this the way the ordinance is written,
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Mayor Ferret How Much?
is Lynch: $22.50, right.
Mts. Gordon: Where is this set-up ifs here?
Mr. Howard: Non-residents, we took the average. We. ate going to....
Mayor Ferre: I'm not worried about non, -residents. We're talking about
residents.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't think we should permit non-residents, frankly.. We have
enough children who are children of our res.idents..,
Mayor Ferre: Aboslutely.
Mrs. Gordon: We shouldn't have a fee for non-residents.
Mayor Ferre: I'll go along with that one.
Ms. Lynch: Now, when you're talking about the people that could support the.
program, which is the middle and upper income levels. Number one,at $40.00 a
week the City Day Care Program is unjustifiable because for $38.00 a week Omni.
International which made almost a million dollar investment only charges $38.,00.
a week for their children, so what you're doing is forcing the people who do not
have the mordv to pay for a quality Day Care Center to have their childrens in
the Day Care :rogram and effectively eliminating the people of an income that
can afford it. That can afford to keep the program going. The fee schedule is
discriminatory, especially in the area of non-residents,where non-residents can
pay less than a resident of the City.
Mrs. Gordon: My personal feeling Al, regarding the discouraging the upper income
child is the social affect upon this program because I've always felt that one of
the better parts of our program was that we were able to bxing together children
of all socio-economic levels where they could be with children who were of a lesser
income level and higher income level and kids playing together getting to know
each other so they weren't, you know, I'm better than thou kind of child. So I
find objection from a different point -of -view and ...
Ms. Lynch: I agree with you Rose. What it's doing is ghettoizing people. It's
ghettoizing
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Ms. Lynch: ... the upper income children to go to the better Day Care Centers
and lower income children, you might as well just call this a proverty program
if that's what you want to do.
Mrs. Gordon: And, that's not what we want.
Ms. Lynch: The philosophy of this program when my first child started four years
ago, was to get children of all backgrounds, all socio-economic levels, just as
Mrs. Gordon said. What you're doing is forcing out any middle income people,
anyone who can afford it,will send their child to another center. You know for
the last seven months we've been telling you things like the children are playing
in dirt. There's no playground equipment , there's no this, any middle income
person who can afford it should take their children out of the center, because
you're also in violation of your own City Fire Code by keeping 45 children in
those centers. So if you pass this ordinance on first reading, second reading, it
doesn't matter, if you pass it,it's discriminatory and I think you'd be liable to a
lawsuit in this case too. And, I'll tell you this is just one of the typical
instances, whether it's day care or anything else, we're parents or citizens, who-
ever you want to call them are not asked for their input. No parent was told that
there was any consideration about an increase in the fees.
Mayor Ferre: Why is that Al?
Mr. Howard: Well, we investigated and evaluated 22 Day Care Centers throughout
the City to determine the ...
Mayor Ferre: That's not the question. You know, I don't mean to interrupt you
and I'm sorry, but I just... you know, what I got into a discussion with a little
bit, and it wasn't an argument but a discussion with the Manager this morning, and
on several occasions during the day it isn't what we do but how we do it that
creates more problems you know, and we end up having problems of substance by
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having problems of style you know, and we go from one to the other, and there
ate a lot of things that are of substance that remain the same and we just get
all confused because we approach things. It's not what we're doing,it's how
we're doing it. You know, here's a very good case and point. Why weren't the
parents at least brought into the process? You know, tell. them, look, we've got
to do it, we're going to do it, now tell us what you say and have your say and
have a discussion, it has to be an honest discussion and then if at the end of
it you still feel that way, fine, okay, that's your recommendation but at least
they gave them the opportunity for input. See, but by not doing it then all of
a sudden the style of it becomes the substance.
Mrs. Gordon: I think this ought to be deferred Mr. Mayor, and sent back to the
Department and Department look at it with the comments that have been spoken
today. I personally am opposed to the non-residents category at all. I don't
think that we should cater to non-residents,period.
Mayor Ferre: I agree with that.
Ms. Lynch: May I say one more thing?
Mrs. Gordon: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, wait.
Mr. Howard: If you eliminate it completely we consider the cost, but there have
been times when there was not enough children. We had a waiting that filled one
center and that's why they had that put in there previously.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I may be wrong Al, because I'm not up on it as much as I would
like to be in order to say to you that I'm sure there's a waiting list that could
be filling those slots but I'm apt to think that in a City as big as this with
enough information being put out about our centers that you'd have a waiting list
of resident children.
Mayor Ferre: And, if we don't we ought to look into ...
Mrs. Gordon: Then we're really in trouble.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon...
Mrs. Gordon: I move the deferrment on it.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion to defer with regards to the fees. I really think
that you ought to let the consumers in the process of making decisions. I'm not
saying that the consumers make the decisions for us, but I am saying that they
should at least ...
Mrs. Gordon: Be involved.
Mayor Ferre: . be involved that's all. There's a motion to defer, is there a
second? Seconded by Father Gibson, that's item 19. Now the purpose of the
deferral Mrs. Gordon, would you state that for the record?
Mrs. Gordon: The purpose of the deferral is to review the rate structure with
the consumers, the parents of the children and that,in addition to that recommenda-
tion that's being made that you eliminate the non-resident category entirely.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there anything else? Now, Joyce, so you don't get
angry at me later on, I want you to understand that I'm not voting against the
Administration's recommendation. I may vote for those increases and I want to
tell you right now that I'm inclined to do so.
Ms. Lynch: Right, no, on the first page which was Mr. Howard's memo to Mr. Grassie,
the reason for the increases were with the addition of Edison Little River to the
Day Care Program. Now, when a whole group of parents came to you and said we would
like to have Edison Little River included in the City of Miami Program and if you
will not take the monies from the basic program to fund Edison Little River and
everyone was in agreement. Now, the increase in funds is justified because of
the expenditures for Edison Little River. Now, if it were for increase services
that would be understandable but deferment on this issue when they clearly state
the fact that the increase of the fees is for the fourth Day Care Center does not
seem to be logical.
Mrs, Gordon: Another thing, Al,
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Ms. Lynch: or since you're the policy makers it just doesn't seem that
cattying out your will.
Mrs. Gordon: I need to ask you why the low-income area which is the Edison
Little River isn't being funded by Title XX?
Mr. Howard: Because we did..when Edison Little River was turned over to the
City we did not get the funds with the program. We just had to take the program
over. We did not have funds for Edison Little River...•
Mrs. Gordon: But you're looking for the funding year though, you're not just
looking for today?
Mr. Howard: We're looking for funding for that.
Mrs. Gordon: Of course.
Mr. Howard: For the future years but we haven't had any
... one of the basic reasons is not the complete reason
one of the reasons we want to sustain the program and we
structure at Edison right now, that's the basic intent.
full fee there.
Mrs. Gordon: Will you be... the motion was to defer so
over everything prior to coming back here.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, do we need to vote on that?
Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, we have to have the roll call.
Mayor Ferre: Alright. Call the roll, please.
word on funding, but the
if you read that ..,
do not have a good fee
They're not paying the
I'm sure you'll be going
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its:
adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-559
A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF REVISING THE
FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE CHILD DAY CARE PROGRAM AND
REFERRING THIS MATTER BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
LEISURE SERVICES FOR A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE PRESENT
RATE SCHEDULE AND DIRECTING THAT THIS REVIEW BE MADE
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSUMERS OF THE SERVICE
(PARENTS); AND FURTHER DIRECTING THE ELIMINATION OF THE
CATEGORY OF "NON -CITY RESIDENTS" FROM THE PROGRAM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson,
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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40. AMEND 8731, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE TO
PROVIDE $35,000 FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMMING SERVICES;
$25,000 FOR PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PUBLIC ON
THE SOUTHERN BELL FRANCHISE ELECTION; $5,400
COMMISSIONERS' EXPENSE ALLOWANCE ACCOUNT.
Mayor Ferre: Now, we'•re on item 1120. This. is, the. Annual Appropriations
Ordinance to provide $35,000 for computer programming services needs in the
conversion of City program to the new 136800 computer and to provide$25,000
for providing information to the public on Southern Bell Franchise and to provide
$5,400 for the last nine months of fiscal year and the Board of Commissioner's
expense allowance account. Well, that's very nice, all those neat little things
thrown together in a little package.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Gibson seconds. Further discussion. Read the
ordinance, please.
(CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: Ca11 the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1, 2, AND 5
OF ORDINANCE NO. 8731, ADOPTED DECEMBER 16, 1977, AS
AMENDED, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1978; BY INCREASING
THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL PROGRAMS
AND ACCOUNTS, INTER -DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES, COMPUTERS AND
COMMUNICATIONS, IN AN AMOUNT OF $35,000; TO PROVIDE
CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR CONVERSION OF THE COMPUTER PROGRAM;
BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND,
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, IN AN AMOUNT OF $25,000
UNDER A NEW LINE -ITEM ACCOUNT ENTITLED, "SOUTHERN BELL
FRANCHISE ELECTION - PUBLIC INFORMATION;" AND INCREASING
THE GENERAL FUND, ANTICIPATED REVENUES, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$60,000 FROM THE STREET LIGHTING FUND; BY INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS,
IN AN AMOUNT OF $5,400; DECREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR
THE GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT
FUND, IN THE SAME AMOUNT; FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING THE
EXPENSE ALLOWANCE FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONERS; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner (Rev.)
Gibson for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement
of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, adopted said Ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None,
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO, 8845,
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
Public.
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41. DEFER FILLING VACANCY ON CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
UNTIL SEPTEMBER 23, 1978.
Mayor Ferre: On item 22 I think we'd discussed this one to death and as far as
'nil concerned all we need to do really is just vote on it and ...are you all
ready to cast your vote? This is on the Civil Service thing. Just write the
name of the person that you select.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, ...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ...I'tn going to be very unpopular by everybody)
to vote.
Mayor Ferre: Why not?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, first of all, I want to thank the people who ... have
been nominated, They afforded me the opportunity of sitting down and discussing
with them their thoughts as they relate to Civil Service. Mr. Mayor, this is
no disrespect to either one of the two people because I have the highest respect
for both. I ... to receive to my vote feel that it must be someone who shares
my philosophy as it relates to Civil Service and I will merely without any further
explanation, I did not feel that comfort in philosophy from either of the two.
I express to you prior that it was my hope and desire that I could vote for one
of the two or if any other names were proffered and I will tell you at this time
as I have told you before it is utmost paramount to me that in the times that we
are experiencing today that it must be someone who thinks in each one of our
philosophy. I'm sure that's why we have two candidates. Now, I know that it is
unfair to the Commission. It is unfair to Civil Service, but I am merely stating
that I am not ready to vote. I do this at the jeopardy ofalienating two friends,
but Mr. Mayor I must feel comfortable.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, you made your point J. L., now what's your... what are you
offering to do then?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the only, you know, as you say, the majority of this
Commission rules. It is my desire that it must reopened. We had no other
candidates, I understand that.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., without precluding anybody's right, you know, what's going to
happen I don't think it's any secret that this is going to split 2-2, now that's
just a guess on my part. Now, I think that with that attitude that you've taken
which I understand you're entitled to, what in effect you're saying is you want to
reopen this thing.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, and I'm fully aware that when we opened it before
that no one else filed. I'm fully aware of that. I'm fully aware of that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what does the Commission want to do?
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I need to have some kind of guideline from you J. L..
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mrs. Gordon: ... what your philosophy is that needs to be met as a criteria for
whatever you know might result in a selection sometime, you know, and maybe each
of us need to express some philosophy of what the characteristics we're looking
for because ...
Mayor Ferre: Can't be too much to the left, can't be too much to the right.
Mrs. Gordon:
what are we looking for?
Mr. Plummer: Rose...
Mrs, Gordon; I'm going to give you one criteria I'm: looking for and that 1 could
find very easily in those two candidates and one is that it be a person who
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Meets the minority category that is not already on there and that means: that we
have to have somebody who has, the. is, a female, because there isn't any on
there, so that is the one major category and that,that also the major category
is apparently a latin, so I thought that one of thetwo candidates had all of
the qualifications that I was looking for, female and the latin.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, that is, you know, that's your opinion....
Mrs. Gordon: I'm not saying it's yours but I'd like to know what you're looking
for so that I might be more aware of who possibly could meet your bill.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, both candidates met the criteria of being latin, okay.
Mrs. Gordon: That's right, but only one could fit the skirtsline,
Mr. Plummer: Both did not meet your second criteria, okay. Rose, I expressed
before and I will, you know, I really don't have to express again, I think there
are radical changes that need to be made immediately in the Civil Service System,
immediately. Neither one expressed to me that they wanted to move that quickly.
Now, you know, I appreciate them being honest with me, but I personally feel that
if this City is honest and sincere in itsefforts to move ahead that we are going
to have to have some drastic changes.. Some I agree with. Some T don't. But
neither candidate expressed that they were willing or did they feel that it was
proper to make those drastic changes.
Mayor Ferre: I don't think that this is a session where we can get into too much
of a philosophy of it. I would recommend tht we do one or two things. We either
vote on this thing and I'm willing and ready to vote or the other thing is that
we start all over again because if you're not satisfied with the candidates as
you've expressed and for the reasons you've and this thing deadlocks then you
know we're where we started and let's not waste anymore time on this and then
let's get some more candidates and you can nominate the day or tomorrow or the
next meeting in the meantime Civil Service Commission keeps on going with only
four members.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm aware of that you know, but let me express something
else right now out in the open fully.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's get to the bottomline is what I'm trying to get to, let's
get to the solution. We know what the problem is., Let's not talk about that.
Let's talk about the solution.
Mr. Plummer: Go ahead talk about the solution.
Mayor Ferre: No, I'm asking you. I mean, I got my solution..
Mr. Plummer: If one candidate can get three votes so be it that's the
the Commission..
Mayor Ferre: What do you want to do? Do you want to put it to a vote,
Mr. Plummer: If you wish so be it,
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but you just told... alright, I have no objections
Mr. Plummer: You know, because I'm just going to abstain.
Mayor Ferre: How can you abstain?
Mrs. Gordon: What is the_ suitable idea or maybe it wouldn't, if
the two candidates to the microphone and ask them questions? If
some things about these people that perhaps I don't know or have
as the devil would like to know it and I would be willing.... I'm
fifteen minutes to be able to resolve the issue, and I think the
clear. The issue that the Civil Service Board is working as 802
we could bring
you have found
not found I sure
willing to waste
issue is very
of its capacity.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, there is another subject that I want to talk about
Civil Service... I'll hold.
Mrs... Gordon: Are both candidates here?
Rev. Gibson: No, don't do that Rose.
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MI Rev. Gibson: When is the next Commission meeting?
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Mayor Ferre: 28th.
Mr. Plummer: 26th, no I'm sorry 28th.
= Mayor Ferre: No, the 24th..
Mr. 0ngie: 24th.
Mr. Plummer: 28th.
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Mfs{ Gordon: I Oust want to know, I Saw La Casa here about two seconds ago, but
I don't know where. he. is now
Rev. Gibson: When it's all over you+all are going to have 2 and 2 and then 1.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, so I'm back to the question, how do you want to solve this,
because Mr. Taylor is going to be angry at me because I told him before 5 weed
have this Orange Bowl thing on the agenda and it's almost 5., We're almost with.
you, just now, a couple of minutes now. J., L., it's your decision.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if what you do is you're forced to vote on a 2-2 I'm
going to abstain I'm telling you. Let me, here.., to me there's only one
alternative. The alternative is, is that we open it up(for me) that we open
it hack up and we give another one week deadline see if anybody else is interested
and then we make. the decision in two weeks.
Mr. Reboso: 28th.
Mayor Ferre: No, September.
Mr. Ongie: Oh I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: 28th. You want to do that way or you want to put it to a vote?
I don't care.
Mrs. Gordon: •!r. Mayor, I'm very disturbed ab.out this situation as it's developed
with regard to this appointment. I don't know, I understand J. L., as everybody
is entitled to their own opinion and certainly nothing wrong with him having
his opinion but there's four of us here and certainly we're precluding how every-
thing is going to turn out,
Mayor Ferre: You are absolutely correct. Alright.
Mrs. Gordon: So I think we should proceed with a vote..
Mayor Ferre: Alright, if you will take a piece of paper and write down on the
piece of paper who you would like to select and pass it down to the clerk
Rev. Gibson: But, Mr. Mayor , let's say this, Plummer has already... I just want
to be. clear...
Mayor Ferre: I agree, but
Rev. Gibson: Plummer has already indicated... Counselor, let me ask this; I just
want to be. enlightened. Plummer has already indicated that he is not ready to vote..
What happens if we get 2-2 vote_?
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Mrs. Gordon: Okay, let me tell you what's going to happen ..,.
Mrs... Gordon: Father, just listen to me a minute. I remember when we were... you
and 1 and the Mayor Kennedy were here, three of us to pick a Commission replacement
at the time that we had a vacancy and we put Mr. Reboso in and at that time we had
a situation where Mr. Plummer was in the hospital and could 'n t
vote and you know, the only way we got you Mr. Reboso is because I switched, okay.
Mr. Reboso: Are you ready to switch today again?
Mrs. Gordon: I ain't saying what I'm doing but I'm simply saying you might do the
sate thing I did befote so that Might even the score..
Mt. Plummer: Rose hasnow assumed theposture of and she'd tathet fight that
switch.
Mayor Ferre: Alright; now all you fighters and all you Matchers ate you re
to vote?
Mts. Gordon: Yes, let's vote.
Mr. Plummer: Go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, pass the papet down to,.
Mr.. Plummer: Can I ab.stain?
Mayor Ferre: Yes..
Mr. Plummer; I have no problem with that. Mr. Mayor, I'm advised by the City
Attorney to abstain that I would b.e required and I have no problem with putting
in writing my reason for abstention which I have done orally and I would be glad
to reduce it to writing Does that comply with the law?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mr, Plummer: Is there a prescribed form or I just give you the minutes?
Mayor Ferre: Well, just for the record, why don't you just state it into the
record.
Mr. Knox: You can just state it into the record..
Mr. Plummer: Stating into the record,my reason for abstention is the fact that
of the two candidatesproffered that they do not share in philosophy with myself
and for that reason I will abstain from voting. Now, do I reduce that to writing?
Mayor Ferre: I think that needs some legal clarification because then
nforamfle,
in other votes it might be very important in the future, like the appointment
a vacancy on the Commission or other such things. Could a Commissioner on the
basis of not agreeing with a philosophy abstain from voting on their two
nominees? I guess legally you could, eh, I'm not that much of a George where
are you? You're reading the Bible or is that the Charter?
Mr. Reboso: What's the result that we have?
W. 0ngie: The result is that each candidate has received two
Mr. Plummer: Say that again..
Mr. Ongie: That each candidate has received two votes, it
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Rev. Gibson: ... and we ain't where we need to go.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me bring up something else to you. The manner in
which the vote was taken can be altered. And I b.elieve that that manner is very
simple that each candidate is named and then we take a vote. a 2-2 is a tie and as
such is then either defeated or deferred, am I correct?
Mrs, Gordon: Or you take another vote, give somebody a chance.....
Mr. Plummer: You could take another vote and that way.,.
Mrs... Gordon: You can keep on voting, remember when we went about seventeen.
Mr. Plummer: Oh God, yes., sixteen for Gibson.
Rev, Gibson: No, no, you had sixteen votes and you pulled me in to break that tie*
Mr, Plummer; That's right.
Rev, Gibson; That's right! I was not in those sixteen ballots.
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Mrs, Gotdont ao you got a nice big fat piece cif paper let's start.
Rev. Gibson: I want to make sure ..,.. all those young fellows that you all
couldn't agreeon and then all of a sudden Plummer says Gibson and I says okay"
I'll take ..
Mr. Plummer: You've cursed me every since,
Mr.. Rebosot Does that mean that if we have a tie can We bring another tatididA
Mayor Fevre: Yes.
Mr, Rebosot ..., to break the tie?
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that means you can bring another candidate ..,
Mrs. Gordon: There was a third candidate whose. name has never been submitted
formally and apparently came in to you Mr. Mayor prior to the. deadline .....
Mayor Ferre: Who was that?
Mrs. Gordon: . . Mr. Smith and I don't know him.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes.!
Mrs. Gordon: My office has a copy of the letter if she'll bring it to me
give it to you.
411 Mayor Ferre: I have talked to Mr., Smith and he is a very impressive young man
and he and I talked and I really liked him. I think he has a lot of talent. I
think that he hasanother interest at this moment..
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Mrs. Gordon: Removed his interest.
Mayor Ferre: No, he hasn't removed his interest. He's pursuing something that
he's more interested in and if that doesn't work out he wants to get active in
City affairs and I think he ... I'll be very happy with him anywhere. In fact,
I' ve...
Mr. Knox: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, ...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Knox: I can read from the Charter.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir..
Mr. Knox: The Charter provides that no members shall be excused from voting
accept on matters involving the consideration of its own official conduct or
where his financial interestsare involved. And, my statement was that ,..
my statement about the abstentions and making and enter into the public record
is from Roberts Rules of Order and of course, while we've adopted those Charter
provisions would supersede
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but there is a point here and that is that if Plummer is not
satisfied with either of the two candidates for reasons stated,I don't think that
we can preclude him from the right of saying that he wishes to nominate somebody
that will meet his requirements and I don't see how anybody in this Commission
could object to that or anybody else, even though we've gone through a certain
procedure of opening it and closing it and what have you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think the only way that that could be done is if there
were a majority feeling of deferment.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, and that takes ...
Mr. Plummer: I believe that would preclude the vote. A motion for deferment.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, I'm not going to argue with you because we don't go by
Roberts Rules, in a very technical sense but I want to tell you,I know enough about
parlimentary procedure to tell you that once there is a motion for a vote,and the
vote is underway there isn't anything in the world that can stop;it under
parlimentary procedure,
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It, Plummett The 'Vote is, not underway because I'•ye. not votedt
Mayor Terre: We11t but the fact is, that and I'm not going to hold you to
it but I'm just saying that you know, the fact is that I think all of us
here are very flexible about this.
Mrs. Gordon: J. L., I would have to say this to you and I don't think
I'd be out of order if you wrote on your ballot none, if you please. so
strongly about none. That you write none, that's your vote.
(MR. PLUMMER INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENT)
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I mean, I'm not telling you how to do it
rather an extension, you vote.
Mayor Ferre: You can't do that legally..
Mr. Knox: Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Knox: Again, the requirement in the Charter is as to measures that are
before the Conunission.In other words, Mr. Plummer may vote anyway he wishes
as to an individual to include no vote for a particular individual. When that
individual's name is inserted in the blank on the resolution that's when the
Charter will require Mr. Plummer to vote and of course, he could vote aye or
nay aL. that time.
Mayor Ferre: I see. So in effect then we have okay, so we have parlimentary
largesse to maneuver in and therefore Mr., Plummer I think the chair will rule
on the advise of Counsel that I think what we have here is a tie and that since
we're not being very strict on all these rules basically we're nowhere which
means we start all over again, and therefore I will accept any other nominees and
I'm sure that we'll go through this again and hopefully somewhere along the
line we'll get somebody that three people can accept on this Commission..
Mr. Plummer! So, then what you then are proposing we will reopen it and hopefuly.
Mayor Ferre: I don't see that we have any other. choice. That's what Father
Gibson was saying and if we had paid attention to him we would have saved ten
minutes and you wouldn't made me a liar with C.T. Taylor. I told him we'd be
on the beer thing by 5, It's 5P.M. So, let's go on, come on let's get out of
this thing one way or the other.
Mr. Plummer: Are we saying that it's what?
Mayor Ferre: What you're saying is that you're making a motion to postpone the
whole deal.
Mrs. Gordon: Well, okay, let me understand where we are so we, you know, proceed
in an orderly fashion. We've taken one vote, is it your ruling that we're not
going to take anymore votes, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: I don't think it's going to be any change, Rose.
Mr. Plummer: It won't be no change, Rose, I don't think.
Mrs. Gordon: You're not switching Manolo? I switched for you
Mr. Plummer: Rose, let me tell you something, okay.
Mayor Ferre: Well, but this isn't you.
Mr.. Reboso: And, Rose, believe me that I will switch -
Mrs. Gordon: I believe you would.
Mr. Plummer:
Mrs. Gordon:
Mr, Plummer:
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Alright, so we'll..,
Alright, so there's,.,
You want a motion to defer and reopen for additional candidates,
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Mf. Plummet: I so move.
MtS, Gordon: There's nothing else you can do at this tite..
Mayor Ferre: There's nothing
Further discussion. Call the
else you can do. Plummer moves, Gibson seconds..
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummeri who moved
its adoption.
MOTION NO. 78-560
A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF FILLING
A VACANCY ON THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD TO THE
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 28, AT WHICH TIME
ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED.
tpon.being seconded by Commissioner (Rev.) Gibson, the motion Vas
atld adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commisiioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Manolo Reboso
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R,, Gibson
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
FURTHER DISCUSSION:
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now the floor is open for nominations and then
on it on the 28th, okay?
Mrs. Gordon: Well, you don't want nominations now, do you?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I hope...
Mayor Ferre:
No, not if you don't want.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I would hope that we wait until the 28th to make
nominations. You know it disturbs me that ...
Mr. Reboso: Okay, I agree with that.
Rev. Gibson: ... because we already knew you all were nominated....
Mrs. Gordon: Yes, that's right.
Mayor Ferre: I agree.
Rev. Gibson: ... you know, and rather than to make hasty decisions, give Plummer
ample time to ... and remember I'm doing this reluctantly, give Plummer ample
time to find a person that he's willing to nominate or ... because I want to say
to everybody I nominated the lady before. I'm going to nominate her again.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Rev. Gibson: Okay.
Mr. Plummer:
for this, ok,
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Plummer:
Mayor Ferre:
J. L....
Alright, now that's over with, and C.T. you can hold me responsible
because I'm going to delay you another five minutes.
Oh, no you're not.
Yes, because it's in the same text Mr. Mayor.
You know, that's unfair to him he's been sitting here all afternoon
Mr. Plummer: I'll try to make it shorter than five minutes.
Mayor Ferre: Well, can't you do yours after we do this thing out
I mean, Taylor has been here all afternoon.
of courtesy to
Mr. Plummer: Alright, I'll shut up but Mr. Mayor I want to come back to this
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C10 ;1 Setvice thing
Mayor Ferre: Fine) I'll recognize you but I know it won't be five minutes.
A1tfght, now I'll recognize you as soon as we finish on this question of the
Crange Bowl.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
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42 (A).DISCUSSION OF SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager and Mr. Knox. Mr. Knox, are you on
instructions of this Commission went and defended the matter hefore the court
and Judge Ferguson with regards to the City of Miami's Orange Bowl,the bids to
sell beer? As I understand from the papers the Judge ruled against us and the
question of appeal is now something that I would imagine the way the City
Commission has always functioned,unless you're otherwise instructed,you'-re
supposed to appeal. Now, because it is an item of current interest and of
concern,' thought it might be appropriate to give everybody an opportunity to
discuss this at this time.
Mr. Knox: As you indicated Judge Ferguson did grant an injunction against the
City of Miami from negotiating with any entity other than the Miami Dolphins for
the sale of beer in the Orange Bowl. His specific finding was as follows and
I'm reading from the transcript of the hearing that was held in his court. It
is the finding of this court that the Miami Dolphins do have the exclusive right
to sell the product beverages in the Orange Bowl and that such resolution grants
them the right if they so desire to sell beer and the exclusive right to them.
Now if there's so question about the appeal I would like to point out to the
City Commission that it is a fairly normal course for the City Attorney's Office
to make appeals from adverse judgments where the City Attorney and the staff
feels that there may be some likelihood that we would prevail on an appeal. In
this particular case we do feel thatthere is sufficient law governing contracts
that an appeal would not be a frivolous activity on the one hand. One the other
hand ...
Mayor Ferre: You sound like Plummer.
Mr. Knox: ... the Judge based his decision primarily on considerations of what
he determined to have been equity so that the appeals court will take the facts
as it finds them. The fact that the court determined existed were that at the
time that the City of Miami entered into a contract in 1967 awarding a concession
for food, beverages and tobacco products it appeared to have been the intention
of the parties that any food, beverage and tobacco products,that were sold in the
Orange Bowl would be sold to that concessionaire. Based upon that fact that the
events in the case indicated that at all times the City of Miami had regarded or
appeared to have regarded that concessionaire as having an exclusive right then
the court determined that this is what was in the minds of the parties at the
time they executed the contract back in 1967 and the subsequent amendments to that
same contract and upon that basis the court determined again that because of the
City's behavior and the behavior of the Miami Dolphins with respect to the
concession, that all of the parties intended that all beverages that was sold in
the Orange Bowl would be sold by that concessionaire exclusively. The court
further contended,again upon the record,that the reason that there was a prohibition
against the sale of beer which appeared in the contract was because beer was
illegal at the time to have been sold in the Orange Bowl and the court further
concluded after hearing the evidence that once it became legal,then the Dolphins
would acquire the right to sell it under the existing agreement and considering
the behavior of the parties since the time that the agreement was entered into.
It was our legal position that there was nothing in the contract which granted
any exclusive rights to the concessionaire to sell beer. As a matter of fact,
the City had a different interpretation about the provisions that were being
construed by the court. Based upon contract law and the fact that there was no
promise that the City made to the Dolphins with respect to beer that appears in
the contract. We feel that there is some legal basis for making an appeal. Now
there are practical considerations of course, that you would have to entertain
and that's not within the scope of our activities unless some specific question
is asked of us in that regard.
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Mayor Fette.t Mt, Gtassie2 As I understand what the City Attorney has said is
that he thinks there ate legal grounds for the appeal and he says that it is a
question of) there might be practical considerations and he, which I guess is
in your realm, which is not the law,it's a question of the practical aspect.
Mr. Grassie: Well, I believe the City Commission remembers that it was my
recommendation that the City negotiate with the Dolphins initially. I feel
that in view of the holding of the court that the only reasonable course of
action for us is to in fact do that.
Mayor Ferre: That's your recommendation.
Mr. Grassie: To negotiate with them. I do not feel that we should consider
that they have an automatic right to sell the product) althought that may be
their interpretation..
Mayor Ferre: Alright, here's where we're at then and Mr. Knox, you correct me
if I'm wrong. For this Commission to do nothing means that you are therefore
instructed to appeal. So we don't need any motions for you to appeal. The only
thing that we need a motion for is to stop the appeal, and the only reason you
would stop the appeal is for the purposes of negotiating. Now, from a ...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT MADE OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's my next point now. I'•m coming ...
Mrs. Gordon: What was your comment, J. L.?
Mr. Plummer: Simultaneous.
Mayor Ferre: You can do both. Now, my next point is simply this, if we do
appeal when is it likely that the Judge would... that the court date would be
setup?
Mr. Knox: The only guage ,that we can use is essentially what has happened with
other cases that we've appealed and the appellant process even to get through
the Third District Court of Appeal now appears to be more than six months.
Mayor Ferre: So from a practical point of view as far as this season is
concerned it's a moot point. Is there any procedure in which was can appear
under an emergency nature?
Mr. Knox: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: We cannot appeal on an emergency basis.
Mr. Knox: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: So your recommendation then, and your statement is that it would
take six months therefore any appellant procedure that we get into is not going
to solve a problem for this season,so we would be talking about the 79 season
and not the 80 season because as I recall their contract runs out in April of
1980, so all we would be talking about if we were to hid it beyond the Appellant,
we couldn't bid it for six months,and if we bid it, if at all) we were to bid
it last year would be for one season.
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question. As I recall, the proposal trade by the.
present concessionaire was ...
Mayor Ferre: That was Dan Paul and Joe Robbie doing that.
Mrs. Gordon: That was the message you'all were getting out, remember.
W. Plummer: It's my understanding the present concessionaire under his
proposal will take two to three months to be prepared to serve, is that correct'
Mr. Grassie: The figure I remember Commissioner is 45-days.
Mr. Plummer: How many?
)r, Grassie: 45-days I believe.
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Mt, ?lumnet: Which_ would almost preclude. this, season.
Mrn Gtassie: If they were to wait until the piking system t.ere. to be installed
before they served any beer it would cut out half of the season.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, let me ask you this question, because I have been
told by several people and I've taken it upon myself to call and find out a
little bit about this, that the system of piping draft beer is now in the
monds of some of the major stadiums considered obsoiete,and the reason why it'•s.
considered obsolete is because beer to be acceptable, to the consumer must be
under 48 degrees fahrenheit,and that evidently in the piping draft beer system
you cannot get below 44 or 43 degrees because when you get below that since the.
freezing point of beer is 38 degrees the system clogs up and therefore they
must serve the beer at the tap that's 44 degrees. I also understand that to
go from 44 to 48 degrees in temperatures of 70 to 8G degrees, ambient temperature,
that the time lag is extremely short,and that therefore even in northern
climates where the temperature is even lower,that the big stadiums are getting
away from refrigeration to tap beer and what they're going to,is other systems.
Now, is that so or not?
Mr. Grassie: The recommendation that was brought to you in terms of what the
City ought to do Mr. Mayor,came,from one of the largest Beer Companies in the
United States, I believe Schlitz. You're asking me whether they're right.
Mayor Ferre: No, I'm asking you whether under your investigations you found
out that what I'm saying might be the case in some stadiums around the nation.
Mr. Jennings, I'm not saying that you did it, but I'm sure somebody in your staff
has called the top dozen stadiums that serve beer and has asked that question.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Grassie: It's very possible that alternative methods which could I think
possibly the direction that you're going,is whether or not there are alternatives
that could be installed in less than 45-days,and in fact...
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Grassie: ... might be preferable. Certainly the industry is evolving quite
a bit and you've heard all the conversation about backpacks and this sort of
thing. There are some questions about that technique. We can if you wish
investigate alternatives which may do the job in the short run even if the long
run answer based on the best technical advice we can get,turns out to be the
piping. It also may be the case as you say that things that evolve to the
point that that is no longer the best answer.
Mayor Ferre: Well...
Mr. Grassie: But we can determine that if ...
Mayor Ferre: ... I'm going to express my personal feeling. I think that what
we ought to do here is continue with the appeal which will take six months and
negotiate at the same time and ...
Mr. Grassie: I don't think that's possible Mr. Mayor.
Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: Are you through, 're not I'll wait until`
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't think that's a good procedure. I believe, firmly believe
that we should not appeal because we will... for the following reasons; 1. We'11
save legal fees, ok? 2. And, you all know I'm opposed to beer, but the majority
is for it, so okay, figuring that you know, you're going to get your way anyway.
I figure this way, if you get it going your main objective is to raise revenue.
The sooner you get it going the sooner you're going to get revenue. So, it's just
like a piece of income property if you're going to have a vacant apartment or store
you're not going to get any revenue. It takes you a long time to make it up...
Mr. Plummer: Rose...
if you
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Mrs, Gordon, .,. so thetefote in my opinion you should drop the.appeal,you
go into negotiationithe contract with the concessionaire is over and whatevei
it is not too long.,.
Mayor Ferret
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
assume that Robbie is going to agree.
Mayor Ferre: That assumes on one thing,and that is,that Mr. Robbie isgoing
to change his posture. Now, I want to remind you that when the Manager came.
in with Mr. Robbie and recommended something you all voted and it went 4 to
I was the only that voted for the proposal and I admit by the way that I was
wrong in that.
Mrs. Gordon: What are you talking about Maurice?
Mayor Ferre: The first time we voted on this. Then the Manager went backto
renegotiate and you all were right.
Mrs. Gordon: It must have been 4 to 2 I never voted for the concession y
mean the beer. Are you talking about the beer?
Mayor Ferre: I'm talking about for Mr. Robbie's first proposal.
Mrs. Gordon: On the beer?
Mayor Ferre: On beer, everybody voted against it except me..',
Mrs. Gordon: Oh!
Mayor Ferre: I voted for beer. I was the only vote for i
Mrs. Gordon: Oh, okay.
Mayor Ferre: Then the second time around and I say I was wrong and you all were
right. Father, you were right because he came back with a better contract.. And,
the contract the Manager recommended mind you, not that Mr. Robbie recommended
was very specific was 31%...
Mr. Plummer: 301%
Mayor Ferre: 301%, excuse me. It also was for only two years. It said that
the expenditure for this new system would have to be paid on a pro rata basis
and etc., etc., which met the requirements of most of the objections of the
Commission but not all. Now I want to remind you that that was put to a vote
and again the vote was 4 to 1. Alright, now...
Mr. Plummer: That was coupled with a package deal.
Mayor Ferre: That's correct, and then we went to court on this thing. Alright,
now here's where we stand we've lost this matter. Now, where I differ with Rose
is,that if we go to court on this thing and waive our right to an appeal and if
Mr. Robbie says the only thing I will accept,is my first and original proposal
and that is that you give me a six year extension, that it be at 30.5%, etc.,
etc., and that's all I will accept. We have lost whatever little opportunity we
have to recoup this thing, so therefore, until we have a very clear understanding
as to what Mr. Robbie is going to or not going to accept,I don't see how in the
world we can give up our right to appeal. I mean once we give up our right to
appeal,you can't change your mind next week, is that right George?
Mr. Knox: Once the time for filing an appeal has
Mrs. Gordon: What's the time, George?
Mr. Knox: ... that... first of all, we've asked for a re -hearing. If that
motion for a re -hearing is denied we have 30.-days within which to file .,.'
Mayor Ferre: So we got time, okay. So in effect we don't have to make that
decision today, is that right?
Mrs. Gordon: Well, I would like to ask George if legally we could do this. Could
we in order to show our good faith say that we will not appeal and then go into
negotiations and if you're still within that time frame you can appeal you know,
if you decide you want to do that you can, but at least you show good faith in the
run ...
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fact you saylok, Mr. Robbie.we.'re going really he.fair with you we want you to
be fair with us and we.'re. going to waive the. appeal.
Mayor Ferre: And suppose Mr, Robbie comes b.ack.and say, I have been fair to
you and you have. my deal and that's it. Now can we then reverse our posture.?
mMrs. Gordon; I think. you can? because it's by motion isn't it now?
Mr. Plummer; Yes, but Rose, what I'm... look we can put the appeal, we can
li then go to negotiate if we negotiate something that is, equitable it gets three
Votes. on this Commission we just withdraw the appeal and we don't lose.
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Mayor Ferre; That's right..
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Mrs.. Gordon; Well, personally? I'm opposed to the mixed procedure, J. h.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Rose, let me get back to another comment you made before:<
■ because.that's what bathers me more than anything..
Mrs.. Gordon: What?
this system and he's, putting up $110_1O0D...
Mayor Ferre: No, no? J. L....
Mr. Plummer: ... being taken out of our money.
Mayor Ferre: ,...J.L. that is not so., The Manager's recommendation did not have
that item in it, is that correct Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Grassie.: It did not have the item in it that we put up any money, however,
it is true that from the returns., from the profit that would come to the City
there. would be a repayment of that capital investment which. is a permanent
installation in the Orange Bowl....
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Mr, Plummer; Under Robbie's proposal we have. got to put up $220,OD0. to put
Mr. Plummer: See., now you're talking about...
Mr. Grassie.: ... just like any other permanent installation that we make in
Orange Bowl that we pay for..
Mayor Ferre: It's not the same difference because zero —zero is zero, but'that'•s
not zero —zero that means that we get moving..
Mr. Plummer: Weget moving but Mr, Mayor in two years the projected profit
what, $280.,00.0?
Mayor Ferre: And at that point we have a system installed.
Mr. Grassie; For whom? For the. City or
Mr. Plummer: Yes,
Mr, Grassie.; For the City it would be approximately
more than that.
Mr. Plummer: There goes our profit in installation and it's for two years.
Mr. Grassie; No, no, that's per year.
Mayor Ferre: And then when you reach...
Mr. Grassie; ... for each year we would make approximately $300,000.
Mayor Ferre: And by doing nothing we are going to get nothing zero, zero, zero,
Mrs. Gordon; .. exactly. And, also correct me if I'm wrong but Mr. Grassie,.
the contract with Mr. Robbie expires in 1980 right?
Mr. Grassie; On concession that's correct.
Mrs.. Gordon: Any installations that are in the property belong to the leseor
correct?
Mr. Grassie: That's correct.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay, s.o therefore, we have_ then ,, improvement whit ". catt
bring us a return at that time if you''te going to negotiate with. s.oi e. other
lessee.
Mr. Plummer: Wasn't there a zinger in there Mr. Grassie that said that if he.
was not the successful bidder on the re -bidding that we had to pay him x-nutnb.er
of dollars?
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Rev. Gibson: That's right.
Mt. Grassie: Only if you have not amortized thecapital investment.,
Mr. Plummer: Yes. Yes.
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sure.
Mayor Ferre: Rut again...
Mr. Grassie: That's simply a question
investment.
Mayor Ferret ... Mr. Grassie, what is before us is whether of iiot we Waive the -
appeal?
Rev. Gibson: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: And, once we say we will not appeal not only would we look stupid
but I question the legality of us changing our minds and then appealing it.. Now,
all I think that we have to do in my opinon today isnothing, because if we
do nothing,then under the rules and regulationsof the City of Miami, the Law
Department appeals. If in the meantime you and Mr. Robbie are able to come to
some kind of an agreement that you feel is sufficiently reasonable to bring
before this Commission,you can do that and this Commission can vote on it. I'm
perfectly willing to vote. I will repeat what I have said all along. I'm not
going to change my consistency on this. I will vote for the recommended plan
that you brought to this Commission and I'm not going to change my position on
that.
Mr. Plummer: That includes the scoreboard and the extension?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir, I voted for it once and I'll vote for it twice, and if
you, but that is not the will of the majority and I accept that. Now you come
back with something that might be more acceptable to the majority and this
Commission can make that decision at that time.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mrs. Gordon: I would want... excuse me Father. George, you wouldn't rush
tomorrow for instance and start your appeal would you?
Mr. Knox: Oh, no, the only thing that we have to do is...
Mrs. Gordon: You'll wait until the 29th and a half day,uh?
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay.
Mayor Ferre; And the 30-days hasn't begun yet because he's
the Judge hasn't answered.
Mr. Knox: Right,..
Mayor Ferre; When the Judge answers that'swhen the 30-days b.egiu.
Mr. Knox: Right.
Mayor Ferre: In the meantime there's no beer in the Orange Bowl.
Mr. Grassie; Well, Mr., Mayor, you know, I really have to be honest with you, if
were in the opposite situation, you know, if we had won the court case and they
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threaten appeal it, I don't think this. City Commission would b.e very teceptiVe
to talking to the Dolphins,
'4tai;nr Fetre: I wouldn't ever do that myself personally in a negotiation
Mr. Grassie, and I want to tell you something if. Mr. ... I voted for Mr. Joe.
Robbie, ok? And, I'm willing to vote for the same dealagain, but I'm going
to tell you something,if Mr. Robbie continues in this attitude,that the only
way he'll play is with his rules and he can change them anytime he wants,and
as far as I'•m concerned,and I just, you know, I've got the highest regard and
respect for the man, but the point is that he wants us to make a concessionwhich
is the only thing we have left,and we have to completely, that's a total • ..
that's for somebody who has fought a battle,but not lost a war,and for you to
say you have to totally surrender before I talk to you, unconditional surrender
and then and you say, yes, but are you going to execute met ha,�I will not
talk about. that until you give me total surrender and that is just as unreasonable
because the fact is that our Law Department and other lawyers that I have talked
to has specifically stated that the law might be on our side. And, the City
Attorney says that there might be a reason for us to appeal. Now, the only
know, what
reason I'm not interested in that is because it's a moot question, you
kind of a victory is it going to be when this goes on for a year and the concession
is over? The people who are interested in bidding this are never going to sell
beer in the Orange Bowl because it never will happen from a practical point of
view, I want to make sure we all understand that , because the appeal is going to
take six months minimum,and once that's done they may go to the Supreme Court,
and when they go the Supreme you and I know that it will not be finished by the
next football season, not this football season, not the next football season, and
at that point, (repeat) the concession is over we've precluded beer for two years
for no reason at all. It's a ... what they call a pyric victory because it means
... absolutely meaningless. So what we're doing is deceiving ourselves and
deceiving those people who have high hopes of selling beer in the Orange Bowl.
They're never going to sell beer in the Orange Bowl it's just not going to happen
so it is a pyric victory.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think really you hit upon before a point and that is
who's going to set the rules. Now, you know, it seems like to me that everytime
we have gone into this so—called confrontation. We the rule makers are not
making the rules. We get down to a point and water down to a point that we have
meaningless victories as it relates to the Orange Bowl.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., I'd like to parallel Joe Robbie to Ed Ball, okay, because
they're very similar.
Rev. Gibson: Sure are.
Mayor Ferre: And, I think we're approaching this problem in a very similar way.
Now, you know that we've been fighting with Ed Ball for years and years and we've
had to go and do some very difficult things.
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Mayor Ferre: We are finally prevailing. Now, Joe Robbie is Miami's Ed Ball,
and he is going to take us to court, and he is going to take us to the Supreme
Court, and he is going to do everything unless he gets his way. Now, on the
other hand, I don't think Joe Robbie has Ed Ball's money, and 1 really think
that Mr. Joe Robbie is a lot more practical man, and I would certainly hope
that in the interest of his making a little money, and the City of Miami making
two hundred and some odd thousand dollars a year, which we can all do,if it all
comes to an agreement very quickly, that he would sit down and negotiate something
with Mr. Grassie, that is reasonable. For him to ask us for complete surrender
before you sit down at the bargaining table, is unreasonable. It really is. I
think the thing to do now is just to do nothing, for you to keep on talking
and hopefully you can conclude this. Now that does not preclude that this Com-
mission before the 30th day runs out, decides not to appeal.
Rev. Gibson: Let me make an observation. Go right on. I'll wait for you.
Mr. Grassie:I am sorry sir.
Rev. Gibson:I serve it at least once a week. Go ahead.
Mr. Grassie: I guess the point I want to make is, Joe Robbie is not in a
position to make the city do anything in this regard. They can't make us do
anything. Without the City Commission's approval, nobody is going to serve
be':r in the Orange Bowi.Now, what we are back to, is a question of what is
the interest of the City. What do you as a policy group want to achieve?
Mayor Ferre: Sell beer in the Orange Bowl.
Mr. Grassie: If that is your position, if that is your objective, then it seems
to me that we have business proposition to face up to, and it is not a question
of who the rule makers are, and who is not a rule maker, it is basically a
a proposition of this city government, and a private sector person, who have
to come to some agreement if our objective is going to be met.0ur objective.
Not his. Never mind his. Our objective is get beer in the Orange Bowl. Now
the only way we are going to get there is to come to an agreement.
Rev. Gibson: )kay. Let me give you my opinion. I am for, --since I can legally do it, --
proceed judiciously with the appeal. In the meantime, as Mr. Grassie goes, and
whoever else goes, to talk with Mr. Robbie, don't fail to let this be known.
Number one, start off saying that you don't have the last word. I want to make
sure that is understood. We have the last word. Make sure that is the rule of
the game, but that you are, you know, there, open to find out. All right, and
that you talk with Mr. Robbie,...you tell Mr. Robbie, that Kansas City has given
40%, and New Orleans has given 32%. These are the things you gave me, that Tampa,
right over there on the west coast, much poorer than we are,has given 40%, that
Denver has given 35%, that Seattle has given 39%, Oakland, 37%, L.A. 35%, St.Louis
33%, Washington, D.C. 35%.
Mr. Plummer: The thing you are not saying is, how much do those cities have to
put up, in installation cost?
Rev. Gibson: I am going to get to that:Make sure you keep in mind that somebody
offered us 41% and we didn't have to put up anything. No, 45%,..we didn't have
to put anything.
Mayor Ferre: It was 41, because it was 45 less the 4% sales tax.
Rev. Gibson: All right. Okay, 41. I'll buy that. That's a devil of a lot more
than 30. All right. So I hope the people that the people who represent us, --
you know, one of the things that really excites me about this staff,the certain
time they knuckle under, and the certain times they just, bully. I want you to
bully this time. And if you don't want to bully, you have choice, since you are
representing me. I think it ought to be put on this table, part of the argument
in the court was,we told you all to close this bid on the 25th day of August.
Isn't that right Plummer? It was extended to the 5th of September. Now, one day
in school tells me, that's kind of like a discretionary power, and the Judge says
well they were operating as 'if'. They understood the minds of the guys who made
the policy. Am I telling the truth counsel? Isn't that what the judge said?
Now, you know,..:.careful. You can't tell the Mayor because he knows what liti-
gation is all about. You know what I mean? I went to law school one day.
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Rev. Gibson: isn't that right'oouht i? Tell the truth,'
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: You didn't refer to that when you were reporting to us. So tell
it all. One of the overriding or persuasive arguments in the court, and the
judge took for granted, that by the performance of the staff, you know, they
were acted in good faith for us. Tell the Commission that. Tell them. Tell them.
So if I am lying,...you tell me like my mama used to say, stand up and call me
a liar. But if I am not lying, you had better say I am telling the truth. Am I
telling the truth?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: Tell the whole story.
Mr. Knox: There was a paragraph in the complaint which was filed by Mr. Dan Paul
on behalf of Mr. Joe Robbie and the Miami Dolphins which alleged that the compet-
itive bids that were invited were illegal because of a failure to adhere to the
provisions of a resolution which was adopted by the City Commission and which
provided an August 25th deadline. This was filed in the complaint and it was
not the subject matter of any legal argument, however as Father Gibson has
already indicated and as was indicated from reading a portion of the transcript
the court was pursuaded by the behavior of the parties with respect to each other,
during the term of this concession agreement.
Rev. Gibson: Now I think we could proceed.
Mr. Grassie: I think it is fairly important though that we explore that a little
bit.
Rev. Gibson:Beautiful. Explore it, because I want you to tell me when we issue
a mandate to close,...you see, I was about to let you off the hook, but I just
can't understand, when we issue a mandate, to close, you tell us why you didn't
close the bidding process,..people could offer bids, the last day was the 25th
and you didn't open them, and use your discretion to go until,...you tell us.
Mr. Grassie: Relatively simple, Commissioner.
Rev. Gibson:Okay.
Mr. Grassie: The assumption is, that what you intend, what you clearly indend,
is more important than what you make up off the top of your head. Let me make
that clear.
Rev. Gibson: What do you mean by that?
Mr. Grassie: Let me make that clear for you.
Rev. Gibson: Explain that too.
Mr. Grassie: It was very evident from the full discussion that we had of this
item, that what you intended was, that after the two week period that was allowed
to the Dolphins, that we have a significant, a useful period for bids from the
private sector. You arbitrarily established two weeks for that. Now, in preparing
the list of those companies across the country, that would be large enough to bid
on this kind of concession, we ended up with people from New York, San Francisco,..
all over the country. Now, if we put out the RFP's, on the schedule that you set,
these companies wouldn't even get some of these requests for proposals for three
or four days. They have to answer. They have to prepare a proposal, evaluating the
Orange Bowl, and deciding what they are going to offer you. Now, in the context of
this City Commission not having a meeting between August 25 and this date, it
seemed intelligent to try and give the industry enough time so that they could
respond to you in the way that you very clearly intended them to respond. Give
them enough time so that in fact they could give you a significant answer,
especially in view of the fact that you wern't going to have a meeting to do
anything about the bids that we received until this date. Now what is the purpose
of having us receive bids on August 25, if you are not going to meet until today
to do anything about it? What we did was attempt to give the industry enough time
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to that we could get some good bids from them. You gave us 10 working days
0 get out to the industry, have them prepare a proposal and get back to us,
Now, you know, from the mails, that leaves them about three days to do their
work and prepare a proposal for us. It's just unreasonable. And to get your
purpose accomplished, we gave them another 10 days.
Rev. Gibson: Okay Mr, Mananger let me say this to the Commission, that the
Commission isn't sharing all its hearing, and doesn't give a happy hoot, and
what happens is what happens, -in this instance was much like a question raised
this morning. I am happy to announce to you, that I didn't go one doggone step
out of this city during the days of vacation. Mr. Mayor you might have been in
Venezuela or Buenos Aires or some of the other places. I am sure Mr. Reboso
you were here some of the days if not all of the days. Mr. Plummer, I am sure
were, some of the days, if not all of the days. Rose, I am positive you were
here some of the days, if not all of the days. If we are in Chittlin Switch
and the Mananger or somebody else on the staff needs us, they know doggone
full well how to get us, and ask us. I am saying to the Commission, I am
announcing right now, either we are going to be the Commission or we ain't
going to be no Commission.
Mayor Ferre: I think we have now satisfied your requirements, --I don't know
whether well or not, --and I think this matter has been discussed fully and I
don't see that there is anything to be done at this point. Mr. Mananger,...
Rev. Gibson: I think this. I think the time has come that this Commission, when
it issues a mandate, that the staff either must report back to us, and say to us
we can't fulfill the mandate or,..I'll tell you the way we do in the church.
I see some clergymen out there. We make some changes. That's the way it happens.
And I think that is out of respect. And I refuse to have anybody treat me the
way this administration treats us.
Mayor Ferre: We have two items, really, and what you are saying is that, I guess,
that as a matter of procedure and out of courtesy,..
Rev. Gibson: Right,...
Mayor Ferre:...that if something that is requested by the Commission is changed,
that you inform the Commission that it has changed. I think that is a reasonable
request.
Mr. Grassie: That is a reasonable request, Mr. Mayor and members of the City
Commission. We attempted to do that. Possibly we did not do so with a clarity
that we should have, but at the time,...
Mayor Ferre:You mean by calling our offices,and leaving us,..
Mr. Grassie:No,no,...
Mayor Ferre:...or memorandum?
Mr. Grassie: No, what we did was at the time that we sent out RFPs to all
of the industry, we also sent it to you, so that you could see that there
was a different date, but possibly that was not clear enough to bring it to
your attention and we should have made more of a point of drawing that to your
attention.
Mayor Ferre: Well okay. I don't think we need to do anything formal about it, but
I certainly hope in the future that things like that are important to the Commission,
that perhaps the communication between that side and of this side, be a little bit
simpler and clearer, so there won't be any doubts.
Rev. Gibson: And make sure the same rule prevails about the matter you mentioned
this morning about all of that redevelopment going on in the downtown,..remember
that model?
Mayor Ferre: I wasn't only talking about the Mananger. I was also talking about
the Downtown Development Authority.
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Rev Gibson: Listen, the Downtown Development Authority isn't here WAN, I atn
dealing with the philosophy and policy. I am not letting anybody off the hook.
Mayor Ferre: I agree.
Rev. Gibson: I am saying that the philosophy,...and until this administration
understands that we don't plan to be yo yo's around here, you know..you know,
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I think in all fairness, to both sides, that at any time
that the administration cannot comply with the policy of this commission, that
it be made mandatory that they notify each Commissioner for the purposes of
possible objections,
Mayor Ferre: Right,..
Mr. Plummer:...prior to taking a unilateral decision. I think it is only fai
Mayor Ferre:Plummer that is a matter of records that is established by tradition
in this City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I am sorry,...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie has been here for two years,and you have served the
city for many years. I have served it for 10 years and there is no question that
that is the standing rule in this and other legislative bodies in relation to the
administration. And I don't think there is any question,...that is something that
is a truism. I don't think that is something that needs to be emphasized. It is
not only a matter that is within the purview of the charter, it is also a matter
that is within the purview of experience and history, and tradition. And if the
Mananger has not communicated clearly enough, I think it is a matter,I would hope,
that it was a mistake, it was inadvertent and that we give him the benefit of the
doubt, that he dealt with good faith and we hope that in the future things like this
will not reoccur, and that there will be communications between the administration
and the commission when there are changes of substance. Okay. Now, going back to the
question of what to do about this thing, as I understand it Mr. Mananger, you are
requested by this Commission to continue the negotiations with Mr. Robbie and not
to preclude, --I know what your feelings are, and I know what your opinion is, --
but I think you have to in good faith try to come back with something that the
majority of this Commission will accept. I want to tell you something. It is my
personal opinion that that can be done. It is my personal opinion that that can
be done, that you can get three votes on this Commission for a reasonable contract
to serve beer in the Orange Bowl immediately. It won't be with the system until
a system is property installed. Now, that is something that you have to work on.
In the meantime I do not see why we should waive the only thing we've got left on
this which is the appeal. Somebody else feels different, speak now.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor there's one thing I want to put on the record. I want it
very clear. As you know I raised this objection before, and I am going to continue
to raise it. We sent the administration after passage of the straw vote, to negotiate
beer and beer only. I have no objections to going in to a separate discussion on the
scoreboard. I have no objections to talking about an extension of the concession but
to me they are separate and individual items. We sent the administration to discuss
beer. Nothing else. That was the only thing approved. And I feel that that is the
orly thing that the discussion at this time should be limited to. If you want to
open up discussion on other matters at a later time as individual items, fine.
Do so. To me the beer is what we are talking, that is what the lawsuit is about,
that is the whole nine yards as far as I am concerned.
Rev. Gibson: And I vote that in the negotiating process. We don't tie this percentage
business,....where's the Mayor?...we don't tie this percentage business to a
lengthening of the contract. We will deal with the lengthening of the contract, at
the proper time. I want to make sure that is in the record.
Mayor Ferre: Anything else?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I would like to get back if possible, as you promised me,
the time to do such.
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42 (B). DISCUSSION OF COMMENTS MADE BY THE DIRECTOR
OF THE DEPT. OF HUMAN RESOURCES AS QUOTED IN
A NATIONAL MAGAZINE.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor in relation to Civil Service, I am extremely
concerned Mr. Mayor. You were the one who brought before this Commission
the facts as related by the Executive Director, the comments made in a
national magazine. The comments that this city was nothing but corruption,..
what other,...terminology to that extent.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Now, this Commission including yourself felt so concerned about
those comments that we invited without question or right of denial that he be
here the following day and explain to this Commission, if there was an explan-
ation.
Mayor Ferre• talking about Bob Krause?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
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Mayor Ferre: Well, you know,..the man, in defense of Bob Kruase, and I don't
know whether he is here this afternoon or not, but he sat around at the next
Commission day until 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor if we had to sit here till midnight, I am very concerned
with a man sitting in the posture at Civil Service, which is the only area we can
concern ourselves with, --we cannot where he sits in the other department --with
another day going by that that man does not come here before this Commission and
explain those comments.
Mayor Ferre: Well, okay.
Mr. Plummer: That bothers me.
Mayor Ferre: I think you are right.
Mr. Plummer: I am going to tell you something. One
in talking was in that particular area.
Mayor Ferre: Well, J.L. look. To move along, I agree with you, and what do you
want to do about it? Okay.
Mr. Plummer: I want that man to come here and to justify if possible, if any
explanation he wants,..but by God, when those kind of comments are made to
50 million people, I think this Commission demands that something be done.
Mayor Ferre: I agree. And let me tell you I personally took the initiative
to talk to the man, and as far as I am concerned he gave me a satisfactory
explanation and he was taken out of context.
Mr. Plummer: Then let him come here and say it.
Mayor Ferre: I agree with you nevertheless, that he should come here on the
record and make the same statement to all of you.
Mr. Plummer: Any statement he wants. Then let me judge. But as I am judging today
I am going to tell you something. My judgment only speaks to one thing. You talk
about that we have vacancy on that Board and that is concerning everybody, but
priority and concern of this individual, those comments which have not been
justified before this commission.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: What I am saying Mr. Grassie,....well it is not really up to you.
Mayor Ferre: Don't say it again. You have already said it,
of the areas
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Mr. (lamer: We are saying it in the text that he is the executive director
of the Civil Service. Not as your department head. Now whatever the procedure
is, I want Mr. Krause to come here before this Commission, say anything he
wants to say. By God something has to be said on this record.
mm Mayor Ferre: Plummer, please so we can move along. I think it is a proper request.
I am sure Mr. Krause won't mind doing it. I am sure you will be satisfied with
his explanation. We may as well do it tomorrow. We are going to be meeting in
budget procedure and we can take 5 minutes off to do that. I hope it won't be
more than that.
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Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mayor Ferre: I am sorry. Okay. Can we move along now?
43. EID ACCEPTANCE - PICNIC TABLES & EQUIPMENT.
Mayor Ferre: Item 36. Picnic tables and equipment.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-561
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF HUBERT H. HANSEN
ASSOCIATES FOR FURNISHING PICNIC TABLES AND EQUIPMENT
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS; AT A TOTAL COST OF $10,551.67;
ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE PARKS FOR PEOPLE BOND FUNDS: AUTH-
ORIZING THE CITY MLANANGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE
THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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44. BID ACCEPTANCE - MMPD COMPUTER ROOM AIR CONDITIONIN
1978.
Mayor Ferre: Item 37, for the computer air conditioning, for $12,000.
Plummer moves, Gibson seconds. Further discussion? Ca11 the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer whO
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-562
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROY L. MALPHUS, INC. IN
THE AMOUNT OF $12,400. FOR THE M.M.P.D. COMPUTER ROOM AIR
COIDITIONING - 1978; WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE ACCOUNT
ENTITLED "FIRE FIGHTING AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND FUND"
IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,400.; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANANGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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45. BID ACCEPTANCE - SITE WORK AT CITY OF MIAMI/
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL
CENTER PROJECT.
Mayor Ferre: Item 3L, the sitework at Knight International,etc. I guess we
have to move along, Joe? Can't stop on that. Reboso moves, Plummer seconds,
further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-563
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT
CO. IN THE AMOUNT OF $224,000. FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
FOR SITEWORK FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L.
KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER PROJECT; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE
CITY OF MIAMI CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM; AND AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None,
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
46. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE TO
COUNTY WASTE, INC; NORTH DADE SANITATION SERVICE,
INC.; AND RAFAEL & ROBERTO TRASH SERVICE, INC.
Mayor Ferre: Now the next is the consent agenda?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Ncw, that is from what to what?
Mr. Grassie: That goes through item,
Mr. Plummer: 39 to 50.
Mayor Ferre: Can we just vote one thing?
Mr. Plummer: You Mr. Mayor should read the following words, 'before the vote
on adopting all items included in the consent agenda is taken, is there anyone
present who is an objector or proponent that wishes to speak on any item in the
consent agenda. Hearing none, the vote on the adoption of the consent agenda will
now be taken.'
Mayor Ferre: All right. The question is that we just pass the ordinance,..I mean
the resolution,...
Mrs. Gordon: Ordinance,..
Mayor Ferre:..ordinance today. How can we vote on it,..
Mrs. Gordon: ..a first reading. I have no objections, you know,even we save time,
but then again if we are going to be questioned as to the legality of passing all
these.
Mayor Ferre: How can you vote on something on consent?
Mrs. Gordon: Not ready yet. Maurice, why don't we take the things people are
waiting on, and do these later.
Mr. Grassie: Well I think the City Attorney's office can explain that this is
not a problem.
Mr. Clark:The ordinance that you voted on on first reading, was simply a housekeeping
ordinance to clean up section two of our code. This consent agenda procedure has been
approved and can be passed as Commissioner Plummer read the preparatory comment.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, the item earlier in the day did not speak to the
consent agenda.
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MP. Gratsie: it was hot required for it:
Mr. Plummer: I move,....is there anyone wishing to speak on any item on the
consent agenda. Hearing none, Mr. Mayor,I move the consent agenda be adopted.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the motion. Seconded by Reboso. Further dis-
cussion on items 39 through 50, which is the consent agenda? Seeing or hearing
no objections, call the roll please.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-564
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A WASTE COLLECTION
LICENSE TO COUNTY WASTE, INC.; NORTH DADE SANITATION SERVICE,INC.;
ANDDOING&BUSSBINESSS UPONTRASH
FULLSERVICE,
COMPLANCE�WITHPERMITTING
CHAPTERTHEM
20 OFOMi THE
MENENCE DO
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution Wa5'.
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
NOES: None.
47. ACCEPT DEED OF DEDICATION FROM BLANCA NUNEZ, BLOCK 2,
OCOEE PARK (2-100).
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-565
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE JULY 28, 1978 DEED FROM BLANCA NUNEZ
CONVEYING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES THE NORTH
FIVE (5) FEET OF LOT 4, BLOCK 2, OF OCOEE PARK (2-100); AND
DIRECTINGE RTY R OF THE COUNTYTYI TO RECORD
FLORIDAORIDA
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
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in the Office of the City
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso
'n vote
passed and adopted by the following
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
48. STREET CLOSING - GREAT COCONUT GROVE BICYCLE RACE
TRIAL, OCTOBER 4, 5, 6 AND 8, 1978.
;�.." �' � �•• r. Commissioner Plummer who
The following resolution was introduced by
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-566
A RESOLUTION CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIING THE CLOSING
LOGREINGOOF FNCERGAINE
STREETS C THEO ONBE HELD
TRIAL EVENTD12:00 NOON, RFOR THE GREAT
BICYCLE RACE TO BE HELD ON W o A M AANDTRSDAY AND FRIDAY,
OCTOBERVE4,
5, AND 6, 1978, BETWEEN 10:00
GROVE BICYCLE RACE TO BE HELD ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 8,1978
BETWEEN 8:00 A.M. AND 6:00 P.M.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
Upon being seconded by vote
passed and adopted by the following
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
NOES: None.
.s.
49. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - ADMINISTRATION BUILDING -
FOUNDATION WORK (REVISED).
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-567
D BY L.
A RESOLUTION
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED.60 FOR MILTONL
CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $1E
92,316.60
NISTRATION BUILDING - FOUNDATION WORK (REVISED); AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $20,400.00
(Herefollows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
, the resolution was
AYES;
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50. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LEGION MEMORIAL PARK - BOAT
RAMP AND PARKING.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plumper who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 78-568
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY WEBB
CONTRACTING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $44,996.66 FOR THE LEGION
MEMORIAL PARK - BOAT RAMP AND PARKING; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL
PAYMENT OF $4,499.67
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
NOES: None.
51. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LEMON CITY PARK - COMF4UNITY
DEVELOPMENT BUILDING DEMOLITION.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-569
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY BIG CHIEF
INC. ATE TEOLOPMENOTSBUL CT OF IL ING4DEMOLLITOR THE ION; ANDEAUMON CITY R
MUNITY DEV AUTHORIZING FINAL
PAYMENT OF $344.30
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
AYES:
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52 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - CONVENTION CENTER = BUILDING
DEMOLITION - PHASE II (PATRICIA HOTEL)
e o owing reso u ion was in ro uce' •y ommiss1oner ummer w o
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-570
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY BIG CHIEF,
INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $32,192.00 FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER -
BUILDING DEMOLITION - PHASE II (PATRICIA HOTEL); AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $3,219.20
(Here follows body of resouon, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso, , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
53 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - WAINWRIGHT PARK IMPROVEMENTS
PHASE II.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-571
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
B & G ELECTRIC,INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $65,416.00 FOR
THE WAINWRIGHT PARK IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II; AND AUTHORIZ-
ING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $6,541.60
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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54. ACCEPT COMPLETED - MODEL CITIES C.D. STREET IMPROVEMENT
PHASE III (BID "B" DRAINAGE)
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-572
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
MARKS BROTHERS COMPANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $154,381.10
FOR MODEL CITIES PHASE III (BID "B" - DRAINAGE); AND
AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $18,288.59
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
55. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - MODEL CITIES C.D. STREET
IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II, BID "C" LANDSCAPING.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-573
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY
EVERGLADES SOD AND LANDSCAPING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF
$20,286.88 FOR THE MODEL CITIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
STREET IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II, BID "C"; AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $2,028.68
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A, Ferre
NOES: None.
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56. BID ACCEPTANCE - JETCOAT EMULSIONS COMPANY FOR
EMULSIFIED ASPHALT.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-574
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF JETCOAT EMULSIONS COMPANY FOR
FURNISHING EMULSIFIED ASPHALT, AS REQUIRED, ON A CONTRACT BASIS
FOR ONE YEAR FROM DATE OF AWARD, FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS AT A BASE PRICE OF $.30 PER GALLON AT A PROPOSED TOTAL
COST OF $60,000.00 SUBJECTTO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS THEREFOR;
ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1977-1978 AND 1978-1979 FISCAL YEAR
BUDGET; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT
TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS MATERIAL
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
57. BID ACCEPTANCE - TWO 15 PASSENGER VANS FOR THE
DEPT. OF FIRE - SENIOR CITIZENS FIRE SAFETY
INSPECTIONS PROGRAM.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-575
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITY
MANAGER IN ACCEPTING THE BID AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF
TWO 15 PASSENGER VANS FROM MARSHALL CHRYSLER-PLYMOUTH, INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,995.86, TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
FIRE - SENIOR CITIZENS FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS PROGRAM, WITH
FUNDS TEREFOR EXPENDED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAPITAL IMPROVE-
MENT PROGRAM FUNDS
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote
AYES:
NOES: None,
Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NATIONAL FOLK FESTIVAL TO DISCUSS PLANS/FUNDING
FOR THE 1979 FESTIVAL - DEFERRED.
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Mayor Ferre: All right. One of the items we are waiting on, Rose,.,.
Mrs. Gordon: There's a lot of people waiting here.
Mr. Plummer: They are all here.
Mayor Ferre: What item are you here on Mr. Freedman?
Inaudible remarks.
Mayor Ferre: That's item #7. Right? Okay, go ahead. You are recognized,
Item #7 which was deferred from the 2:30 to five,...
Mr. Morty Freedman: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, we are here today representing
the City of Miami's International Folk Festival Committee regarding our budget
for the coming year. We don't expect to take a long time. We don't have any slide
presentations or movies such as you have seen in the past from different other
groups involving festivals. I think we can be finished in 15 or 20 minutes if you
will give us that much time.
Mayor Ferre: Morty I am willing to vote on this right now as far as I am concerned.
You know, I think you do a wonderful job and perhaps after that what we can do is
shorten it a little bit. I have to be on a television program in 35 minutes.
Mr. Freedman: Well, then we are asking for a budget appropriation, a cash appro-
priation of $34,705.00 and an in -kind appropriation of $18,000.00 for this
coming year.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, I thought it was $19,000.00 that we put in cash.
Mr. Freedman: No, that was last year.
Mayor Ferre:Joe, how much did we put in?
Mr. Freedman: We'd like the time to explain this to you if we may. At first I
would like to introduce to you, very briefly, the people who serve the City
of Miami on the Folk Festival Committee, and most of them have for a number of
years, they work with no compensation. They put in many, many hours and many
months of work and I think you should know who they are. I would like to go down
the row here if I can. We also have some people here who are not members of the
committee but who are supportive of the festival and have been involved in it.
Wellington Rolle, outstanding community leader, Mimi Freedman, who I think you
know, from the Chinese/Cuban community, Noili Gonzalez who represents the
Brazilian/American community here, Det Joks attorney who represents the German
community, Mary Borden, our Irish/American leader here, Alicia Baro, who was
Mrs. Puerto Rican Community and,...I have a mental block, and Nora Swan, --excuse
me Nora, who is everything in the art community in Miami, Mano Santano, Cuban/.
American who is an official with the department of Publicity of the City,
Sile Sauvigne who is public service director of Channel 4, representing the
English community in this area,our friend Mr. Borden of the Scottish/American
group, and we have a very active participant in the festival, Rev. Nitsch
of the Hungarian community here in Miami. He represents the First Hungarian
United Church, (pastor,excuse me, I am sorry), for the last two years, and
his lovely wife here, Mr. John Mezey of the Hungarian Kossuth Civic Center,
our PhD on the Committee, Dr. Lowe, who is a professor at the University of Miami,
our Phillipino/American representative, Fred Ordonez is out of town, representing
the Phillipino community is Mrs. Luisa 'Yu, who has been very active with the
Festival and another gentleman,...what is it?...Mr. Santos, also. And then we have
our very excellent,...dh, I am sorry, Rev. NagY of the Hungarian Church of
the Reformation who is our, I believe, lone dissenter today on the Committee, and
Ellen Heidt a school administrator in the public school system, and our
Countess, Maria Dambski of the Polish/American community, and Elizabeth Pittman
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retired educator, and we have here with us, representing the Ukranian/American
Club, Ms. O.Maksymowich but two Maks,mowichs 's, representing Kay Hodivsky
who is out of town. Excuse me, Gloria Basila, the Syrian/American community,
Bill Stirrup, one of Miami's outstaning civic leaders, and the head of our
parade every year. Also Norma Darby of the Jamacian community here.
And in the back row, Wilbert Sanchez, who is the director of the Mexican Tourist
Council here. And Harry Escandon representing the Ecuadorian community. We
have many who are out of town on vacation and a few who are ill and could not be
present.
Mrs. Gordon: You've got a regular league of nations in this room right now.
Mr. Freedman:Now, these people incidentally represent thousands of other people.
Not just themselves. I'll try to be as brief as I can. Two years ago, the Folk
Festival, which is now going into its 8th year, --I wish the Mayor was here, to
be with us about this--,
Mrs. Gordon: He'11 be back, if you want to wait.
Mr. Freedman: Should we wait?
Mrs. Gordon: Wait until he comes back.
Mr. Freedman: Is that all right?
Mr. Plummer: Take a 5 minute break.
Mr. Freedman: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: J.L. come on.
Mr. Freedman: Mr. P•layor and members of the Commission, ---
Mayor Ferre: We never are going to get a full commission.
Mr. Freedman: The Mayor said go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead. You are never going to get a full commission.
Mr. Freedman: I hate to keep these folks from dinner.
Mr. Plummer: I'm here.
Mayor Ferre: It is 6 o'clock and people are walking around, making phone
Go ahead.
calls. ,
Mr. Freedman: As you know we are going into our 8th year with the City of Miami
International Folk Festival. It is the only festival of any kind in this community
that caters to every ethnic group nationality, religion and what -have -you. We are
not for just one segment of the community, or one ethnic group, we are for everybody.
Two years ago our budget was $30,000.00 in cash and $15,000.00 in in -kind services.
Since that time we have gone for the past two years down to $19,000.00 in cash and
$11,000.00 in in -kind services. We have literally walked on egg shells trying to
save money and never to be over our budget. I think we succeeded. As a matter of
fact this year we turned back to the general fund from our $19,000. some $1800.00
which we did not spend. Now, we have here a table on contributions by local govern-
ments to festivals and public events of this nature in this community. And you will
notice it shows the number of days of the event, the number of days it is open, how
many years it has been established, who's the sponsor or supervises it, and what
it got the city or the county. Now in the case of the Miami Beach Latin Fiesta,
of course that is in the city of Miami Beach, the Israel Jubilee was the City
of Miami Beach and the county. The others here are City of Miami and Dade County.
You will note in 1978 we received a total of $30,000.00 cash and in -kind services.
Hispanic Week which sponsored by Dade County got a total of $40,000.00, the
Miami Beach Latin Fiesta got $51,000.00, Israel Jubilee received a total of $50,000.00
from the City of Miami Beach and the County, and also received $25,000.00 from the
Jewish Federation.
Mayor Ferre: Morty I don't mean to be rude to you, but you know you said half
an hour and we have been gone for 10 minutes, and all that. I have had a call
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now, and postpone a television taping which l had at 6:30. they told one they
would do it only till 7 o'clock. And I want to let you know I will be leaving
here in about 20 minutes.
Mr. Freedman: Okay, we will be done by then Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Well Morty we have one other item to take up. That's the problem.
Mr. Freedman: We will try and be done in 15 minutes.
Mr. Plummer: Can I ask about 30 seconds worth of questions.
Mr. Freedman: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: Morty last year, 78, how much did you get from the Cit,
Mr. Freedman: How much what?
Mayor Ferre: $19,000.00.
Mr. Freedman: $'.9,000.00 cash and $11,000.00 in -kind.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. And you generated how much in revenue?
Mr. Freedman: We generated thirty, --let me see,...$35,... just a second, I have
it right here, $35,000.
Mr. Plummer: Let's stick with round figures.
Mr. Freedman: Approximately $35,000.
Mr. Plummer: Round figures is fine.
Mr. Freedman: Good.
Mr. Plummer: Now, for 1979, you project how much revenue,
same.
Mr. Freedman: We are asking the City,...
Mr. Plummer: No, revenue,...
Mr. Freedman: We project $39,625.00 that will generate
Mr. Plummer: Let's call it $40,000. for round figures.
Mr. Freedman: Right.
Mr. Plummer: What are you asking this commission today
Mr. Freedman: $34,705.00.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. What in -kind?
Mr. Freedman: $18,000.00.
Mr. Plummer: $18,000.00 in -kind. Okay.
Mr. Freedman: I might point out that for the past two years in the in -kind
services,, we have had less police protection and fire protection than what
those departments have recommended simply because we didn't have more in -kind
services to work with.
more...less, the
Mr. Plummer: Morty if I can cut through, it seems like using your projections
you are asking this city to increase its hard dollars by another $10,000.
Mr. Freedman: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: Is that correct?
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Mr. Freedman: That's correct.
Mr, Plummer: Is that correct? That's the bottom line.
Mr. Freedman: That's the bottom line.
Mayor Ferre: He wants to go from $19,...
Mr. Plummer: He wants to go from 19 to 34. Wait a minute,...now 1fsten
Then 18 is in -kind, gives you $52,700. You are going to generate revenues
of 40 which means we have to come up with,....no, $12,700.
Mr. Freedman: What we are asking,...$30,000. Am I wrong?
Mayor Ferre: I want you to be my accountant. When you can come up with figures
like that, that's all right.Man, that's all right.
Mr. Freedman: No, its 15,....
Mr. Plummer: It's more.
Mayor Ferre: The difference between this and this is $15,000.The difference,
between this and this is $7,000.00. He wants $22,000.
Mr. Plummer: $22,000.00 total is correct.
Mr. Freedman: Right.
Mr. Plummer: I am just trying to get to the bottom line. I am not trying to
make figures for you. I hate to say it, but you know knot -head is correct.
Mr. Freedman: It is an increase of about 15 thousand, something.
Mr. Plummer: No, 22.
Mr. Freedman: You are counting the in -kind also.
Mr. Plummer: In -kind or out -of -kind, it's all dollars.
Mr. Freedman: It's 15 and 7 what it is.
Mayor Ferre: It is a 60% increase.
Mr. Freedman: Right. I would like to mention that I received information,
I think it is correct. If it is not correct I would like to know about it.
But I understand that the new city budget calls for us to get 19 thousand
again and 11 thousand in in -kind services, that it calls for the Greater
Miami Latin Fiesta to get 42 thousand which I believe is cash, and Idon't
know what the in -kind services are. Yes. $42,000.
Mr. Plummer: Yes. That's right.
Mr. Freedman: Then there's an item which combines the Cuban Music Festival
Little Havana Community Festival, Cuba Encuentro, and Hispanic Heritage which
amount $26,400.00 and then the Kwanza and Goombay Festivals which total $16,000.00.
Now we feel and all of the people here, with the exception of Rev. Nagy,
we feel that this is unjust in terms of what our service has been to the City,
and what the Festival has meant to the City and what the attendance has been
at the Festival. We want to expand the Festival. We want to make it greater
just as Mr. Grassie has said from time to time, it should be bigger and better
and more quality, and that's what we are trying to do. And we want to do the
best we can for the City. We feel that we certainly out of this $103,400. for
festivals, we certainly are deserving of this when we generate twice as much
more in cash as the City gives us, and half again what the City gives us in
cash and in -kind services.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Grassie, you want to respond as to what,..,then
we will hear from Rev. IlagY , and then I'll give it back to you Morty4
then you continue, and then we will wind it up.
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, this is,...1'm really in a very difficult position
for the 5th or 6th time today. So far,...
Mr. Plummer: But it feels so good.
Mr. Grassie: Yes. Right. So far you have approved $300,000. for retired employees
which we don't have, $5,000.00 for Hispanic Week which we don't have, $5,000.00
for Little River which is not budgeted, and $8,000.00 for the City Clerk which
we don't have. Now, what can I tell you? What you are doing is approving expendi-
tures with no funds.
Mr. Plummer: That's why the Mayor's signing the check, the rest of us Commissioners
don't mind voting for it.
Mr. Freedman: Well what about these other funds for the other festivals, Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Grassie: You are possibly justifiably incorrect, but you are incorrect in terms
of the budget including any amounts specified for any festivals. What I said to
the City Commission earlier, and you know, what I'll try and repeat now, is that
based on the experience of the current year, we have put in the budget lump sums
to take care of this kind of event. Now, in coming up with that estimate we have
based ourselves on history, but we have not put into the budget a specific amount
for anything.What I am saying to you is, there is no guarantee in the budget, and
we do not ask the City Commission to approve nineteen thousand dollars for you, or
forty-two thousand dollars for the Latin Fiesta, for next year. What we have is
a budget which is designed to take care of your event as well as all of the other
community events. But that will have to be budgeted,...will have to be distributed
to all of the potential users of that fund.
Mr. Freedman: I am certainly not questioning your word. I can only tell you that
someone in your budget department said that our $19,000. comes out of publicity
funds, that there's another $84,000. and they broke it down and said $42,000.
for the Latin Fiesta because that's what they requested, and then broke it further
down, $16,000.00 for Kwanza and Goombay Festivals, and $26,400. for these others.
Now, that's all I can tell you.
Mr. Grassie: But that simply reflects this year's experience.
Mrs. Gordon: Did they get $42,000. this year? We never approved $42,000. for;
the Latin Festival. We approved $18,00n,....
Mr. Grassie: Oh, yes, you did Commissioner.
Mrs. Gordon:..if what you are saying is a fact.
Mr. Grassie: I'm afraid you did. They brought in their budget and you approved
it, the way you have approved 3 budgets today.
Mrs. Gordon: For $18,000 yes, we approved $18,000. plus $13,000. in -kind,
and that budget figures that you just heard recited, don't include any in -kind,
as I understand it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think it does.
Mr. Grassie: One of the discusssions that we want to have with you during the
budget session is to try and make clear, and we have tabulated these things for
you, is to try and make clear the impact of these one -by -one decisions that you
keep making. You know, where you say to people, as you did twice today, that
yes, we are going to give you cash and we are going to give you in -kind, when
there's no budci&t for it.We have ended up with hundreds of thousands of dollars
of expense for this sort of thing.
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Mrs, Gordon: You are talking about the retirees, and we are talking about
items which are totally unrelated to that item, Mr, Grassie.
Mr. Grassie: No.
Mrs. Gordon: I don't want to be argumentive. I certainly don't want to
delay this meeting any longer than necessary, but 1 feel personally resentful
of the fact that a activity which has been a very successful city function
under total control of the City, is treated as a stepchild. I don't cotton
to that really, honest to God. Seriously. And if you have a budget for festivals,
I think your major concern ought to be the International Folk Festival simply
because it is dealing with people of all different ethnic groups and nationalities.
It is not a particular --but it certainly doesn't exclude any particular nationality.
Mr. Grassie: No argument with you Commissioner. The point is not with the regard
to the merit of these festivals, and I was talking about the Hispanic Week and
the Little River, other festivals. It is not a question of which one is better.
What I am saying to you is, that you are spending money that we don't have, that
is all. Regardless of the organization.
Mrs. Gordon: In the lump budget, there is an item for the Hispanic Week. Now,
I grant you it is budgeted for 78-79. Okay. True. But I don't know whether or not
the sum we granted them today was in the budget for 77-78. I don't know. It might
very well have been. That doesn't change. The request is to expand and improve
the festival, and you yourself was a proponent for that procedure. And I would
expect that you would make a recommendation that the additional money needed for
the expansion and improvement of this festival, which is our festival, nobody
but you and this commission, and this committee are responsible for the success
of this, that you would recommend that the appropriate amount of funds be granted
from the budgeted figure that is in there, and that all others who are operated by
others, receive proportionately less.
Mr. Grassie: Basically what you are talking about is making a decision on next
year's budget now, out of context of the rest of the discussion.
Mrs. Gordon: That's what the request was. Yes.
Mr. Grassie: Which of course, you can do. But that is the sort of thing that
you are going to get into when you get into the budget, all day tomorrow and
all day Monday. It is that kind of discussion. What sort of thing do you want
to support next year. There's a place for that.
Mrs. Gordon: That's true. We are going to make final decisions when we have
our full blown hearing. But apparently this discussion,that's going on right
now was based upon the fact that the tentative budget reflected an inequity.That is
what I gather the reason all these people have come here to be with us instead
of at their dinner table.
Mr. Freedman: May I continue. We have a few people who want to speak Mayor.
Bill Stirrup, you want to come forth? Alicia is going to speak to us.
Mr. Bill Stirrup: Mayor, and members of the Commission, personally I think
it is a waste of time, because you know as well as the people of Miami, the
great asset that this festival has been to our community. And if you sit here
and let one disgruntled person destroy this, or does the majority rule? Or does
one monkey stop the show?
Mayor Ferre:Mr. Stirrup excuse me, that's not in question here this afternoon.
I frankly don't think that we ought to address, you know, the destruction of
the Folk Festival. That's not even in discussion now.
Mr. Stirrup: Well I feel that you should approve the budget as asked.
Mayor Ferre: What we are discussing here as I understand, I'll give you my
opinion,there'sno question that I am voting for the Folk Festival. The only
thing I have to decide is how much.
Mr. Freedman: Mr. Mayor we realize that and we have been in a situation the
last couple of years where we come in and we are told how little money the
city has, and that we can only have $19,000. And then we watch others come
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in and get as much, or more than we have been given, and we have been established.
That is what hurts, after all the labor and work we have put in.
Mr. Plummer: Morty let me tell you, I went on the record, because I was the one
who moved for the Latin Fiesta, and I went on record right then and there of telling
you to go back and get your budget, get it together, get it soon, and get back here.
So you are doing no more than what I and this commission requested of you. Now, let
me go a step further. One of the things that has not been said here to me, which is
very, very important. All of these festivals are important. Let me say that to you.
The more festivals this community can have to draw more people, I .am all in favor.
And Morty, you and I had some serious words when I voted for the Latin Fiesta. Okay?
And I realized your position. But let me tell you something. It was just one more,
and I am all in favor of that. I really am. I don't think we can have enough of
them. There comes a point of what we can afford. Let me tell you the point that to
me is most important. We are spending taxpayer's dollars, and the one thing that has
not been said, is, if you broke down the number of people that enjoy that Folk
Festival by the thousands, compared to the dollars spent, it's damn cheap money.
And as far as I am concerned, I am behind you and a lot of other things have to go
because to me, you people have been in business now, for whatever, the 6,7 or 8
years that it is,....
Mr. Freedman: Going into the 8th year.
Mr. Plummer: You have proven that it is a success. The people of this community
have proven it is a success, and as such, to me this commission would be derelict
if we did not adequately and properly fund what the community is enjoying.Now, I
don't necessarily agree with every figure you've got on this page. I am going to
tell you that, and I am not willing to sit here right now and say to you I am
willing to vote for this total you have proposed. I think this Commission has to
scrutinize this budget. I think this commission has to sit down and realize that
we can afford this and can't afford that. If we have to knock off a bicycle race.
I am not saying that please,...then we have to do it. But we are, in my estimation,
a responsibility to govern to the mass of people. I tell you, I am not hardpressed
to find dollars that is spread around as much, and enjoyed as much as that Folk
Festival is. I think Mr. Mayor the proper thing to do, is to take this,...the
first time I've seen it is today,...
Mr. Freedman: Yes, I know.
Mr. Plummer: I think this Commission should take this budget, as well as the
administration, and I think as far as I am concerned, I made a commitment if
you want to call it that, that that Folk Festival should get no less than what
the Latin Fiesta got. Okay. I made that.
Mrs. Gordon: Take into account,...
Mr. Plummer: As far as I am concerned, we've just got to find the money.
Mrs. Gordon: J.L. take into account the bicycle, is not a expenditure. It is
a contribution by the private sector that pays for it. It has to balance on the
balance sheet you know. It is in and out.
Mr. Plummer: Rose, I wasn't picking on the bicycle race.
Mrs. Gordon: I just wanted to point that out so the records will reflect
that you mentioned that.
Mr. Plummer: As long as I can beat Maurice Ferre on a bicycle,I didn't bring on that
on particulars.
Mayor Ferre: I am going to have to leave in about 2 minutes.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion Mr. Mayor that this matter be deferred for hopefully
for a period of two weeks,giving the Commission and Administration the time to sit
back and properly analyze, and that this matter be scheduled on the agenda for
September 28, hopefully by then we will know more about budget, we will know more
about where we have dollars and what we can do and what we can't.
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MayorFerre: All right. There's a motion. Pose Gordon seconds it, Further discussion?
Call the roll.
Plummer: Excuse. Mother of the festival would you like to make the motion?
Mrs. Gordon: No, that's okay.
Mr. Freedman: Can I just bring up one other thing?
Mayor Ferre: You can, but you won't have me here..
Mr. Freedman: Okay. I am sorry.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-576
A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR FUNDS BY
THE"INTERNATIONAL FOLK FESTIVAL COMMITTEE" UNTIL THE MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 28, 1978
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon , the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mrs. Gordon: I'm voting yes but I am understanding that is with the intent
of increasing this budget proportionately to what it deserves from the budgeted
item in the proposed budget.
Mr. Plummer: Let me put on thing on the record Morty, so we might as well bring
everything on top of the table. Rev. Nagy has made some very, very heavy accusations
basically that you as director are going to benefit in this increase. And I think
we ought to put that right up on top, because don't let somebody say oh, look here,
what I found. Let's put it up on top of the table. I am sure this budget, and I
haven't it, contains what is dedicated to Morty Freedman, and the fine job you are
doing. Let's put it all on top of the table.
Mr. Freedman: It has always been on top of the table.
Mr. Plummer: So, that when we come back we can address that properly.
Mr. Freedman:Can I mention one other thing?I know the Mayor has to go, but
we are in a situation right now where we've turned this money back to the
general revenue fund. We don't even have any stationery left. We are told
we can't buy any staionery until the new budget comes in, and I don't know
exactly when thay will be. We should be writing some letters right now. We
can't even do that.
Mr. Plummer: What do you need Morty? A couple of hundred dollars?
Mr. Freedman: We need like maybe $500.00.
Mrs. Gordon: I'll move that.
Mr. Plummer: I'll second it.
Mrs. Gordon: And that is part of the budget that they will ultimately get.
Mr. Plummer:...understanding that will come from whatever is delegated,...
Mayor Ferre: The motion by Mrs. Gordon, seconded by Plummer. Futher discussion,
Call the roll.
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The following (notion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon Who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 78-577
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANANGER TO MAKE
FUNDS AVAILABLE TO THE INTERNATIONAL FOLK FESTIVAL COMMITTEE
IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500 FOR PURCHASE OF MISCELLANEOUS
OFFICE SUPPLIES, SUCH AMOUNT TO BE DEDUCTED FROM THE COMMITTEE'S
FY 78-79 ALLOCATION
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
ViceMayor Manolo Reboso
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
59. REQUEST MODIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE DADE COUNTY CODE ENTITLED 'FIXED
GUIDEWAY RAISED TRANSIT SYSTEM - DEVELOPMENT ZONE'.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie do you need me for anything
Mr. Grassie: That item that has just been passed out
emergency item because it relates tc a county action
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Fosmoen, do you recommend?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer:I move it.
Unidentified person: Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves a resolution requesting the modification of the
proposed ordinance amending the Dade County code by adding Chapter 3-C
entitled 'fixed guideway rapid transit system development zone' is presented
for the second reading before the Dade County Commission September 19.
Moved by Plummer, seconded by Reboso. Call the roll.
Mr. Ongie: Now?
Unidentified: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Ca11 the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who
moved its adoption:
else?
is a relatively an
proposed for the 19th.
RESOLUTION NO. 78-578
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE MODIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE DADE COUNTY CODE BY ADDING CHAPTER 33C, ENTITLED
FIXED GUIDEWAY RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM - DEVELOPMENT ZONE, AS PRE-
SENTED FOR SECOND READING BEFORE THE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION ON
SEPTEMBER 19th, 1978
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and oh
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Reboso , the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Reboso, Rev. Gibson, Mrs. Gordon and Mayor Ferree
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAINING: None.
Mayor Ferre:Don, I don't know when the rest of the Commission wants to sit and
go through this. I cannot. I have to go. I will be perfectly willing tomorrow
to start off with you, if there's no conclusion tonight in bring it to a vote.
Mr. Reboso: Mr. Mayor I have an item.
Mrs. Gordon: I thank the members of the Committee for coming here and talking with
us today.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. Reverend, you will be back in two weeks?
Unidentified: I'll be back on the 28th.
Mayor Ferre: Don we will see you tomorrow then?
Lt.March: Sure. I was just bringing information to you...to give you.
60. APPOINT OFELIA SHERMAN TO THE ECOLOGY AND
BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.
Mr. Reboso: I would like to recommend the appointment of Ofelia Sherman,...
Mr. Plummer: Maurice, you have a phone call from Washington,....
Mayor Ferre: What?
Mr. Plummer:..phone call from Washington.
Mayor Ferre: I'll be right there. Ofelia Sherman,...
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mr. Reboso: Ecology and Beautification Committee.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Reboso who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 78-579
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING OFELIA SHERMAN TO THE CITY OF MIAMI
COMMITTEE ON ECOLOGY AND BEAUTIFICATION
The foregoing resolution was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote of the
City Commission.
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Mr. Mummer: Are we going to hear Mr. March, or are we not going to hear
Mr. March?
Mr. Don March: The Mayor indicated some kind of intention to wait until the
morning.
Mr. Plummer: What does the administration want to do.
Mr. Grassie: We don't want to get this kind of discussion to holdtup our
budget session. You know, you've got the departmental reviews tomorrow.
Mrs. Gordon: It is and I have to go home.
Mr. Plummer: Is it possible that we could start at 8:30?
Mrs. Gordon: It is all right with me.
W. Plummer: Would that be agreeable?
Mr. Grassie: If we agree that we are also going to cut if off at 9.
Mrs. Gordon: Okay...with you Don? Half hour?
Mr. March:No, I mean,...I saw the item on the agenda, and the first sentence,..
and I came here just to outline to you the facts, and indicate what transpired.
I think I have done that.
Mrs. Gordon: We didn't 'ote on that item anyhow.
Mr. Plummer: No.
Rev. Gibson: No, we didn't.
Mrs. Gordon: Carry it over till tomorrow.
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you what. Don, how about we handle it at the end of
tomorrow's agenda? Would that be agreeable with you? The administration?
Mr. Grassie: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: Handle this item at the end of tomorrow's agenda, so you don't
have to worry about running over. Agreed? Move we adjourn.
Mr. Grassie: We are still on the plan of starting at 9 o'clock tomorrow.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Grassie: And then this will be a:subsequent item.
Mr. Plummer: At the end of the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the City Commission, on motion
duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 6:40 o'clock P.M.
ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
MATTY HIRAI
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
MAURICE A FERRE
MAY.O R
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ITEM NO.
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2
3
4
5
6
7
10
11
12
13
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT
MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 1979. PROVIDING THAT IF ANY SECTION,
CLAUSE, OR SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTITUTION-
AL.
DEFINING AND DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAXATION.
AMENDING SECTION 2-9 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
FLORIDA, ENTITLED "ORDER OF BUSINESS AND RULES OF
PROCEDURE".
AMENDING SECTION 39-13.L OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF REVISING THE FEES
AT THE CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSE.
AMENDING SUBSECTION (a) PARAGRAPH (1) OF SECTION 39-5
OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
REPROGRAMMING $200,000 FROM THE MIAMI RIVERFRONT
SPECIALTY CENTER (FOURTH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FUNDS) TO A NEW PROJECT ENTITLED NEW TOWN IN TOWN
PLANNING
GRANTING AN EXTENSION OF RESOLUTION NO. ZB-78 AS
AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NO. ZB 104-78
DESIGNATING CO'SSIONER ROSE GORDON AS THE CITY'S
VOTING DELEGATE TO THE 52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE
FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES
RESCEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF
OCTOBER 26, 1978 TO TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 24, 1978
STRONGLY RECOMMENDING THE APPOINTMENT OF CITY COMMIS-
SIONER ROSE GORDON BY GOVERNOR REUBIN ASKEW TO THE
FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
ABOLISHING THE CITY OF MIAMI'S CHARTER REVIEW
BOARD WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION
38699, MAY 24, 1967
ENCOURAGING INVOLVEMENT AND COOPERATION AMOUNG ALL
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITLES IN THE GREATER MIAMI
AREA, TO MAXIMIZE THE LIMITED RESOURCES AVAILABLE,
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ECONOMIC POLICIES
APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT
PAST THE AGE OF 70 YEARS FOR OLDEN JAMES, WASTE
COI .L FCTOR
COMMISSION
ACTION
R-78-542
R-78-543
R-78-544
R-78-545
R-78-546
R-78-547
R-78-548
R-78-549
RETRIEVAL
CODE NO.
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0062
0063
0064
0065
0066
78-542
78-543
78-544
78-545
78-546
78-547
78-548
78-549
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taiMISSION
AC TIQN
RETRInAL
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16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
23
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACH-
ED LEASE AGREEKENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND DADE
HERITAGE TRUST INCORPORATED.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREE-
MENT WITH SENIOR CialqUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
AND SENIOR AIDES PROGRAM OF DADE COUNTY.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO LORENZO
COLLI AND DIANA COLLI, THE SUM OF $10,000.00 UNDER
THE TERNS AND CONDITIONS AGREED UPON IN FULL AND COM-
PLETE SATISFAC t'ION AS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI, FOR
ALL CLAIMS, DEMANDS, LOSS OF SERVICES, ARISING FROM
ANY ACT OR OCCURENCE UP TO THE PRESENT TIME ON ACCOUNT
OF ALL PERSONAL INJURY, WHICH OCCURED AS A CONSEQUENCE
OF AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO SALOMON
CASTILLO AND ISABEL CASTILLO, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION
OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $6,000.00 IN FULL AND COM-
PLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY.
CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY
MANAGER IN ACCEPTING BID AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE
OF SEVEN AITMIOBILES FROM NORTHSIDE MOTORS, INC IN
THE AMOUNT OF $34,923.00
ACCEPTING THE BID OF ?HUBERT HANSE'`T ASSOCIATES FOR
FURNISHING PICNIC TABLES AND EQUIP' Ti FOR TT
DEPART. 1: TT OF PAR':S .
ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROY L. MALPHUS, INC. IN THE
AMOUNT OF $12,400
ACCEPTING THE BID OF JOE REINEW1 ON EQUIPMENT CO.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $224,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
CONTRACT FOR SITEWORK FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSI-
TY OF MIAMI JAMES L, KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER PRO-
JECT
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A WASTE COTTFCTION
LICENSE TO COUNTY WASTE, INC.
ACCEPTING THE JULY 28, 1978 DEED FROM BLANCA NUNEZ
CONVEYING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES
THE NORTH FIVE (5) FEET OF LOT 4, BLOCK 2, OF
000EE PARK
CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIZING THE CLOSING OF CERTAIN
STREETS FOR THE ONE -MILE TRIAL EVENT OF THE GREAT
COCONUT GROVE BICYCLE RACE TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY
OCTOBER 4,5, AND 6. 1978
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY L, MILTON
CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF
$192,316.60
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY WEBB
GENERAL CONTRACTING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF
$44,996.66 FOR 'IHE LEGION MEMORIAL PARK -BOAT RAND
AND PARKING
R-78-550
R-78-551
R-78-553
R-78-554
R-78-555
R-78-561
R-78-562
R-78-563
R-78-564
R-78-565
R-78-566
R-78-567
R-78-568
78-550
78-5�51
78-553
78-554
78-555
78-561
78-562
78-563
78-564
78-565
78-566
78-567
78-568
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31
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33
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36
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY BIG CHIEF,
INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $3,443.00 FOR THE I EON CITY
PARK -COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUILDING DEMOLITION
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY BIG CHIEF,
INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $32,192.00
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY B&G ELECTRIC
INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $65,416.00
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY MARKS
BROTHERS COMPANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $154,381.10
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY EVERGLADES
SOD AND LANDSCAPING, INC.
ACCEPTING THE BID OF JETCOAT EMULSIONS COMPANY FOR
FURNISHING EMULSIFIED ASPHALT, FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC WORKS
CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITY
MANAGER IN ACCEPTING THE BID AND AUTHORIZING THE
PURCHASE OF 15 PASSENGER VANS FROM MARSHALL CHRYSLER
PLYMOUTH, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,995.86
REQUESTING THE MODIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE DADE COUNTY CODE BY ADDING CHAPTER 33C,
ENTITLED FIND GUIDEWAY RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM -DEVELOP-
MENT ZONE
APPOINTING OFELIA SHERMAN TO THE CITY OF MLAMI COM-
MI1'1'EE. ON ECOLOGY AND BEATIFICATION
R-78-569
R-78-570
R-78-571
R-78-572
R-78-573
R-78-574
R-78-575
R-78-578
R-78-579
78-569
78-570
78-571
78-572
78-573
78-574
78-575
78-578
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