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Home My WebLink AboutCC 1979-09-13 Minutesea. It COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING HELD ON September 13, 1979 (REGULAR) PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK CITY HALL RALPH G. ONGIE CITY CLERK Via INDE( CITY liciffninfium REGULAR - SEPTEMBER 13, 1979 ITEr9 NI • SUBJECT ORDINANCE OR KKEESOLUTION MO. PAGE NO. DEFERRAL OF APPROVAL OF CITY COMMISSION MINUTES AND OBJECTIONS RAISED BY JOEL JAFFER MOTION OF INTENT - VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE TO THE ANNUAL CONVENTION FLORIDA•LEAGUE OF CITIES AWARD BID - CUSTODIAL SERVICES - VERSAILLES MAINTENANCE CONTRACTORS INC. CONTINENTAL BUILDING SERVICES INC. G & A BUILDING MAINTENANCE, INC. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT: AMEND ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR ROCKWELL AUTOMATIC FINGERPRINT SYSTEM AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH LATIN RIVERFRONT DESIGN COMPETITION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS FOR LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK RATIFY AND CONFIRM ISSUANCE OF CHECK TO MIAMI BANDI_ TOS SOFTBALL TEAM PARTLY DEFRAYING COST OF TRIP TO ST. LOUIS FOR NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. APPOINT AARON MANES AS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD CONFIRMING RESOLUTION: APPOINT NOEMI A. FREDDMAN AS A MEMBER OF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD ESTABLISH ADVISORY BOARD -DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA CLAIM SETTLEMENT: AUTHORIZE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY MONTRESS JENKINS $7,407. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: SILVIA AND RAPHAEL FERRER CLAIM SETTLEMENT: ARMANDO CUSIDO AND ANA CUSIDO RATIFY ACTION OF CITY MANAGER: EXTEND BREATHING APPARATUS AGREEMENT WITH SURVIVAIR, DIV. OF U.S. DIVERS CO. CONSENT AGENDA: (Agenda Items 43 thru 66) SR-5463S - ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (SIDELINE SEWER) SR-5463C - ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (CENTERLINE SEWER). SR-5462C - ORDERING LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT ( CENTERLINE SEWER) ORDERING LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462S - (SIDELINE SEWER). BID ACCEPTING: MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC-LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK BID ACCEPTING: GRAY CONSTRUCTION-MELREESE GOLF COURSE -STARTERS OFFICE DISCUSSION DISCUSSION R-79-574 R-79-575 R-79-576 R-79-577 R-79-578 R-79-579 R-79-580 R-79-581 R-79-582 R-79-583 R-79-584 R-79-585 R-79-586 R-79-587 R-79-588 R-79-589 R-79-590 2 3-4 4-6 6-7 7-8 8-9 9-10 10-11 11-12 12 13 13-14 14 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 'MO Ran REGULAR-SEPTEMBER 13, 1979 PAGE # 2 11EN NO. SUBJECT 14-g ILMOLUTICN NANCE OR NO. PAGE NO, AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH NEW YORKERS ANONUMOUS TO DESIGN, PRODUCE AND PRINT AN INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE ON SERVICES ORDERED BY THE CITY'S OFFICE OF TRADE & COMMERCE AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE TO: ALL FLORIDA SANITATION SERVICE,INC. JOHNSON BROS. CONSOLIDATED WASTE, INC. PACKED SANITATION P.H. WASTE SERVICE,INC. BIDS ACCEPTING: DEBRA TURF & EQUIPMENT CO., BOYNTON PUMP & SUPPLY CO., AND DAVIS METER & SUPPLY CO., GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION MATERIALS ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: WEBB GENERAL CONTRACTING, INC.-CENTRAL MIAMI PARK-1978 ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK:FRISA CORPORATION-VIRGINIA KEY RUBBISH PIT CLOSING ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: ED RICKE AND SONS AND LARRY RICKE AND JAMES RICKE-HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICE FACILITY -MAINTENANCE BUILDING ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: ROSSER ELECTRIC CO., INC- NORTHWESTERN HIGH SCHOOL FIELD LIGHTING AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF TILE CONTRACT WITH DADE COUNTY FOR STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SERVICES RENDERED BY.THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BID ACCEPTING: ALLIED ELECTRIC COMPANY -COPPER WIRE ALLO TI::2 $5,000 FROM 5TH YEAR C.D. BLOCK GRANT FUNDS T:� C,;.NIRACTORS TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT,INC. FOR IMPLEMENTING THE SMALL AND MINORITY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS TRAINING PROGRAM AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION 78-620, THE ANNUAL APPRiii-i.i iTIONS RESOLUTION FOR U.S. FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING SOCIAL SERVICE FUNDS, BY DECREASING JESCA (CULMER) IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,500; AND BY INCREASING JESCA (COCONUT GROVE) IN THE SAME AMOUNT. ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: MET CONSTRUCTION, INC.- ORANGE BOWL -LOWER PRESS BOX REFURBISHING PHASE I- 1978 ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: T & N CONSTRUCTION; CO. - COCONUT GROVE C.D. PAVING PROJECT BID ACCEPTING: SANMAR GENERAL CONTRACTORS FIRE STATION NO. 4 BID ACCEPTING L.G.H. CONSTRUCTION STATION NO. 14 PUBLIC HEARING: PORT OF MIANI DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT NOVEMBER 22, 1979 INC.- CORP.-FIRE R-79-591 R-79-592 R-79-593 R-79-594 R-79-595 R-79-596 R-79-597 R-79-598 R-79-599 R-79-600 R-79-601 R-79-602 R-79-603 R-79-604 R-79-605 R-79-606 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 25 25 26 26 1 cI4 sElcingEtEgum PAGE # 3 19 20 21 22 22"A" 22"B" 22"C" 22"D"1 2 23 24 25 26 27 1 SUBJECT PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET OF OFF-STREET PARKING PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET'OF OLYMPIA BUILDING THE DEPARTMENT OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH BUILDING INSPECTION PROGRAM FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ESTABLISH SCHEDULE OF FEES CONFIRMING RESOLUTION -DESIGNATE ROSE GORDON AS VOTING DELEGATE TO THE ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIT;S REV. GIBSON AS ALTERNATE MAYOR'S REPCXT OF DAMAGE IN THE DOMINICAN ERPUBLIC AND RELIEF EFFORTS CHANGE DATES OF COMMISSION MEETINGS-2ND MEETINGS IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER DISCUSSION OF ORANGE BOWL AGREEMENTS -(RATIFIED AD AFTERNOON SESSION) PERSONAL APPEARANCE-ELIZABETH VIRRICK REGARDING CITY. BOXING PROGRAM AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE WITH ORANGE BOWL COMMITTEE TO ACQUIRE AUXILIARY SOUND SYSTEM FOR USE AT ORANGE BOWL EVENTS DISCUSSION OF FINANCIAL PLANS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER DISCUSSION OF REVISED LEASE AGREEMENT -CONVENTION CENTER DISCUSSION OF VALIDATION OF REVENUE BONDS CONVENTION CENTER & PARKING GARAGE DISCUSSION OF AWARD OF BID STRUCTURAL STEEL CONFERENCE/CONVENTION CENTER DISCUSSION OF AWARD OF TOTAL CONTRACT FOR ALL REMAINING WORK ON CONFERENCE/CONVENTION CENTER SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. AWARD OF BID ON ABOVE:FRANK J. ROONEY,INC. DISCUSSION OF PARTIAL RELEASE OF CONTRACT TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF MOTE'. PLATFORM PLAQUES, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED USE OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARINC FUNDS AUTHORIZE COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION CENTER, SUBJECT TO VALIDATION OF CONVENTION CENTER/ PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BONDS. (FORMALIZATION OF ACTION TAKEN DURING MORNING PORTION OF AGENDA) AWARD ADDITIONAL PORTION OF STEEL BID CONFERENCE/ CONVENTION CENTER AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SIGN AMENDED LEASE AGREEMENT-MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES LTD. .—.....ww�a wnn onmu 'wiTT(m P_>A'1 TR2 1 ITDINANCEpftSOLUTION NO. PAGE N R-79-607 • R-79-608 1ST READING R-79-609 DISCUSSION R-79-610 DISCUSSI N M-79-61]Af e) DISCUSSION R-79-612 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION M-79-614 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION ORD. 8979 R-79-615 R-79-616 R-79-617 27 27 28-29 29 30-31 32 33-51 51-53 53-54 54-58 58-62 62-66 66-67 67 69-71 71-76 76-77 78 79 80 'I ChYI i �u SSii s} ' 8AMI; - ORIDA REGULAR—SEPTEMBER 13, 1979 PAGE 1i 4 T1EM NO. SUBJECT tDINANCE OR SOUITION 29 CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED USE -OF FEDERAL 'REVENUE SHARING FUNDS PERSONAL APPEARANCE: WILLIAM N4 HUTCHINSON CULMER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE . AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT — COCONUT GROVE SAILING CLUB. AWARD BID: FURNITURE AND OFFICE EQUIPMENT -DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION UNTIL AFTER FY-79-80 BUDGET PROBLEMS ARE RESOLVED ACCEPT PROPOSAL: JERRY'S INC. FOR OPERATION OF RESTAURANT AND CONCESSION AT COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 1980 DAY CARE CENTERSf)RESTORE FULL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS, ,(.-RESTRICT PARTICIPATION TO CITY OF MIAMI RESIDENTS, REQUEST MANAGER TO NOTIFY TEACHERS OF TODAYS ACTIONS SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 8858, ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE: FUND MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT PLAN FIRST & SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 1 OF 8719-RECREATION FOR MENTALLY RETARDED — 3RD YEAR EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 8858 INCREASE INTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS —EQUIPMENT PURCHASES 1978AND 1979 EMERGLANCi ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 8858 INCREASE INTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS —COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR REMODELING, ETC. .FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 1 OF ORDINANCE 8716 APPROPRIATE $277,500 TO FUND CONSTRITCTTON OF FIRE STATION NO. 4 FROM BOND FUNDS FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE 8977 CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE CHANGES IN ACCORDANCE WITH LABOR AGREEMENTS FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL SCOREBOARD NEGOTIATIONS, ETC. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT: PEAT, MARWICK AND MITCHELL RE: WATSON ISLAND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE PAYMENT OF $10,000 TO CHANNEL 23 4 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION R-79-618 M-79-619 R—•79-620 DISCUSSION M-79-621 M-79-622 M-79-623 ORD.8980 ORD. 8981 ORD.8982 ORD. 8983 ORD. 8984 1ST READING R-79-624 R-79-625 R-79-626 PAGE NO, 80-106 106-108 108-123 123-126 126-127 127-148 148-157 157-162 162 163 164-165 165-166 167-168 168-171 172-179. 179-181 1 • IVANO. 45 CI 4I i' I I�A REGULAR' -SEP MB _ , I PAGE 11 5 SUBJECT tINANCE OR ourrI oN No. PAGE NO. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INT C��TRACT: EVELIO LEY (IN CONNECTION WITH ��PP't OF MIAMI INTERAMERICAN TRANSPORTATION CONFERENCE) RATIFY ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER: SUBMIT GRANT-IN- AID APPLICATION FOR PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LITTLE HAVANA AREA PUBLIC HEARING: MAINTAIN GENERAL OPERATING MILLAGE AT 10 MILLS AND DECREASE DEBT SERVICE MILLAGE BY .527 MILLS. CHANGE DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR "DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT ON THE PORT OF MIAMI FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: SPECIAL MEETING SEPTEMBER 25, 1979, DISCUSSION ITEM: ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR CITY,. COMMISSIONERS' OFFICES STRAW BALLOT FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR 'WATSON ISLAND" DISCUSSION ITEM: COST OF LIVING INCREASES TO RETIREES MAYOR FERRE'S COMMENTS INRE: False or malicious charges against opposing Candidates. R-79-627 R-79-628 DISCUSSION M-79-629 R-79-630 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION 183 183 184-186 186 186-187 188 188-189 189-190 190 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OFMIAMI, FLORIDA * * * * * On the'13th day.of September, 1979, the City Commission of Miami, .Florida met at its regular meeting placein the City Hall, 3500 Pan _ Miami,:Florida in regular session. The meeting was called to order at 9:08 O'Clock A.M, by Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer with the following members .f the Commission found to be present: Commissioner Rose 'Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Joseph R. Grassie, City,Manager R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant. City -Manager: George F. Knox,City;Attorney. Ralph G. Ongie,City Clerk. Natty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk An invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. then led those 1. DEFERRAL OF APPROVAL OF CITY COMMISSION MINUTES AND OBJECTIONS RAISED BY JOEL JAFFER. Mr. Plummer: Good morning. For the record today is September 13, 1979, a regular publicized meeting of the City of Miami Commission. Agendas are available to the public along side of the Clerk. We do have a very, very long day scheduled. I think the last item is scheduled to start 5 o'clock this evening. First of all let me ask if there is anyone in the audience who wants any item deferred or withdrawn? Is there anyone of the Commissioners or the public who want anything at this time withdrawn from the Consent Agenda? Is there anyone Items 42... excuse me, 43 thru 66 of the Consent Agenda, is there anyone who wants one of those items pulled? We will be asking again before we pass the Consent Agenda. Are there any objections of the minutes of May 2:nd, 24th, June 4th, June 25th, June 26th or July 20th? Mr. Jaffer? Mr. Jaffer: Yes,;I have quite:a few objections to these minutes. First of all I would like to say there is no public agenda packet to the table over there. I'm right now reading from that 'Miami Times packet..<I don't know if they are going to show up or not. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, will you.correct that and make,a packet; available` to the public with the backup material. Mr. Grassie: That is.., the news media packet has to stay where it was. Mr. Plummer: Alright, sir, but you will ,make ;`one available to they public, not to individuals, butto the public. Alright, is there any other correction to the minutes? Mr. Jaffer? Mr. Jaffer: Well, the only minutes have been made available after inquiry with the Clerk's Office and of being on their mailing list for the minutes have been the minutes of May 22nd. As far as those are concerned I think there is some miss quotations regarding the Coral Reef Yacht Club lease. My comments concerning historic buildings were totally left out of the minutes and... Mrs. Gordon: What date? 1 • Mrs. Gordon: What about if he doesn't show up at 10 o'clock? What is going to happen to this Commission today, just sit and wait until the arrival? Mr. Plummer: No, not .at all Rose. ,,I think we,will._offer the courtesy until 10 o'clock and if not we will proceed with 'the :quorum which the Charter`'says we shall. Mrs Gordon: •We do .have a quorum and the Commission can operate with a. quorum and I don '.t"see any reason even for the adjournment between now and. 10 o'clock. I'`think we should move along. We have a majority Commissioners- here and we should conduct the City's business, you -know: Alright, let's face that. bridge when Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but I'm just objecting to• the deferment. There is going to be a long enough day without any.; additional delays so let's move along:; with our business. Mr. Plummer: You are not going Mrs. Gordon: We can goon, with continue on with whatever items Mr. Plummer: to get any objection this; Conunitteeof the Whole'and we can we feel Can -be handle. Well, now, wait a minute straighten me out. Mrs. Gordon: Let's start wri:b the Committee of the Whole which we have the first item, which is certainly not a controversial item. Mr. Plummer: No, not at all. 2. MOTION OF INTENT - VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE TO THE ANNUAL CONV.NTION FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. Mrs. Gordon: I would nominate you... Mr. Plummer: No, not me. Mrs. Gordon: M Does it need more than one person? . Plummer:. Yes. 'Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: I can't vote, I President, of the thing. I .would: nominate., Father' Gibson then. Rose aren' you going? Mrs. Gordon: . What's the date of it... Mr. Plummer: October 26th, 27th. Mrs. Gordon: I might and I might not. Mr. Plummer: You are on the Board of Directors. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: for the Flor Directors be motion. Ok, g] I know. Well, I will go if I can. If I can't I will notify -you. Alright, well, let me make the motion then,..alright. 10# e.that'. ida League Convention that Mrs. Gordon who i`s.on:'the,Board of the delegate and that Father Gibson be the .'alternate: hat'"s a motion understood, call the roll. 93 THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO. 79-573, was introduced by Commissioner 'lummer and seconded by Commissioner Gibson was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. (LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION NO. 79-609 ) 3. AWARD B= - CUSTODIAL SERVICES VERSAILLES MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR' INC. CONTINENTAL BUILDING SERVICE' INC. G & A BUILDING MAINTENANCE, INC. Mr. Plummer: Item 24, custodial services with Building and Vehicle Maintenance. The recommended award is for two hundred eighty-six thousand seven hundred seventy-one dollars, is there a motion? Mrs. Gordon: Just a moment J. L. . Plummer: Item 24. ▪ Jaffer: Mr.`Vice-Mayor, before . Plummer: . Jaffer Mr ▪ Plummer,: Yes, sir we did compliedwith the Charter? Mr Ongie: Yes, sir. . Jaffer�. I don't believe you have called the meeting to order. I just.. You were not here, sir.-; Mr. Clerk you vote on this I have . .'Plummer: Thank you. Item 24, will someone`,: move:`it.,Father Gibson Rev. Gibson: Mr. Plummer: Move. Seconded by.. Mrs. Gordon: I will second the motion.'= Mr. Plummer: . Mrs.;Gordon. Is there anyone of the public who wishes to discuss Item 24, hearing none... Mrs. Gordon: It's just that I have a question as to whether we are starting a procedure which would be beneficial to the City in the long run and I would like the Manager to dlscuss this for the record. Plummer: Mr. Manage I'm sure you are capable. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner Gordon and members of the City Commission, the charge of the City Commission to us in the budget process has been that we find ways for the City to improve it's operations, but also to make them more economical and this is one effort in which the City is availing itself of the talents of the public sector... I'm sorry of the private sector in order to do the City's business more economically. And basically what we are talking about here is having a contract services as do most large corporations and office buildings to provide janitorial type maintenance service for many of our City structures. And I think that as a long term trend that it certainly is in the best interest of the City that we are... Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, on the cover sheet it's like the address says. It says "the award of this contract will affect twenty-one Civil Service custodial gl .04 SEP 1979 workers". Does that mean there will be persons that are laid -off because o this? Mr. Grassie: Well, not in that amount because; we do anticipate absorbing a number of those individuals and ofcourse, we do have'° somethat arealready vacancies. But... Mr. Plummer: Don't I to assimilate some of Mr. Grassie; Yes. three of them have employees. Mr. Plummer: Mrs. also Mr. Grassie recall that ow of the those people? companies: agreed --Actually there are three companies recommended` and"all Committed themselves togive first preference. to these; Gordon, any further discussion. Mrs.. Gordon: What are you saying would be the saving dollars to the City? Mr. Grassie: Approximately a hundred' fifty thousand dollars. Mrs.Gordon: It's hard for me to understand how it could be a say:ng to the City when in house personnel does not create or generate a.profit. Now, when`, you are giving out a contract of this sort, you arc not giving it out to a non-profit agency are you? Mr. Grassie: No, all of these are profit making organizations Commissioner, but what has happened is that over the period of yearsour organized` employees have contracted for wages significantly higher than those that the private sector has to pay. And you know, it's as simple as that really. The difference is in the level of pay that these people get in the private sector. Mrs. Gordon: Then what ycu really are saying is that some =ofthese people that will be laid -off will be laid -off and possibly rehired, but rehired -- I am repeating what you are saying-- at a lesser payscale, is that it?.„ Mr. Grassie: The jobs in the private sector are at a'lesser pay scale' and I'm sure that they would have to,have .that,salary`adjustment"to make the.transitic . M.s. Gordon: Well, that's 'all well and; good` but.`.how about`managerial' department are they; going to take salary -adjustments inthis:type'budget year too? Meaning yourself and"your staff,'are you going to take. budget adjustments too? Mr. Grassie: Every departmenthas taken reductions, yes.. Mrs. Gordon: I mean personally you. own salary cut? Mr. Grassie: That is annually Are you taking' a budget Mrs. Gordon: Are you also suggesting a reduction ;in"pay scale for Assistant "anagers-and :other -managerial :; personnel?, Mr. Grassie: As a matter of fact we are, yes. Mrs. Gordon: And that is in the budget? Mr. Grassie: Yes. Mr. Gordon: Individual salaries_and we can`:have a breakdown onthat,.are all being adjusted downward. this year. Is that correct?" Executive scale`is going down. Mr. Grassie: Well_`, not individual ° salaries Commissioner. What is being adjusted is the way in which the City provides cars which in effectrepresents a salary cut for all of these people Mrs. Gordon: Ok, J. L., do you want to'call `the question? Mr. Plummer: This gentleman wishesto be recognized. For the record sir, your name and mailing address and you who you represent. Mr. Infante: Yes, my name is Infante with Property Management and my address is 2128 Southwest 67t1. Avenue. I want to bring to your attention that we are submitting-- my company is submitting an offer like on the past 23rd of 05 ,.1 July meeting to hire all the employees at the present rate scale of pay. Also we were submitting copies to you all and it's just to early and Idid.not anticipate this was coming over so early copies to you all of what our proposal is. .,Plummer: Alright sir, thank you. Mrs. Gordon: One of the thoughts that I have on the subject is the fact that the custodians are here after hours when the rest of us are going, which presents a safety factor from the standpoint of security to this building. I don't know that you would have the same security coverage under private enterprises handling the custodial work. Mr. Plummer: Well, I think"the question Mr. Grassie, is will these custodians:. that you hiring from the private sector be here inthe evening? .I would assume. Mr. Grassie: Yes, they will be doing all of their work after business hours. Mr .' Plummer: Further discussion call the roll. The following resolution .;gas introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who d move s adoption; RESOLUTION NO. 79-574 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF VERSAILLES MAINTENANCE CONTRACTORS, INC. AT A COST OF $52,315.00, CONTINENTAL BUILDING SERVICES, INC. AT A COST OF $203,856.00, AND G & A BUILDING MAINTENANCE, INC. AT A COST OF $30,600.00 A TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF $286,771.00 FOR FURNISHING CUSTODIAL SERVICES ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE YEAR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, WITH FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED FROM THE 1979-80 OPERATING BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE SERVICES SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Comznissioner Gordon, the resolution was adopted by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: Mrs. Gordon. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. passed and Mr. Plummer: Item 25, authorizing the City Manager to accept the proposal of Derry's, Inc. for operation of the restaurant and the concession of Coconut Grove Exhibition Center and to execute an agreement in connection therewith. TheCity Manager recommends, is there a motion? Rev. Gibson: Move. Mr. Plummer: Mrs. `- Gordon: Mr.,Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: By rather Gibson, seconded by... Let that one rest J. L. until later. Alright, wewill let that one rest. The same thing. with 25A. Mr. Plummer: 25A, authorizing the City Manager to enter into an agreement with Peat, Marwick and Mitchell... Mrs. Gordon: I said let that one ride too. Mr. Plummer: enter into a motion? Are Let that one ride also. 26, authorizing the City Manager to lease agreement with Coconut Grove Sailing Club, is there a those people here? Mrs. Gordon: gl I think that here again, since it's an agenda item for later SEP;',979 .06 in the day, there may be people here to speak to it. Mr. Ongie: Mr. Vice -Mayor, on Item 24 there, was one "no" vote on that. can we get a ruling from the City Attorney .whether .that passed or'r:t7 Mr. Plummer: did it pass? Mr. City Attorney.:. with three members present, a`two '`to one vote Mr. Knox: Yes. Mr. Plummer: The answer is "yes". 4. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR ROCKWELL EXECUTE AGREEMENT: AUTOMATIC FINGERPRINT SYSTEM Mr. Plummer: Alright, I don't think 27 is any problem. 27, authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement amending the original contract with Rockwell ,.utomatic Fingerprint System, the City Manager recommends. Mc"ed by... Rev. Gibson: Move. Mr. Plummer: ... Gibson,... Mrs. Gordon: Second. Mr. Plummer: .. seconded by Gordon, any discussion? For the record let me: indicate that Ihad a nice visit this morning with the Rockwell people for approximately c half hour who came in and gave me; a.full •presentation as I requested Mr. Grassie and I feel must better and more comfortable voting on it now than I did with no information. Call' the roll on 27. The following resolution was introduced by C:mmmissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLD? ION :.J. 79-575 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT AMENDINC THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR THE ROCKWELL AUTOMATIC FINGERPRINT SYSTEM, DATED JUNE 23, 1977, BETWEEN ROCKWELL INTERNATIONAL, INC. AND THE CITY OF MIAMI, SAID AGREEMENT CONT.'TNING SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL CHANGES FROM 1iiE ORIGINAL'`. CONTRACT. in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote:. AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer._ NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file.; Mr. Plummer: ;;Item'_28,: authorizing the City Manager to -make payment o $10,000 to'Channel =23,:the City Manager recommends. Mrs. Gordon: Well let that one ride, that needs discussion., Mr. Plummer gl Let that one ride. • i .07 Mr. Plummer: 29, authorizing the City Manager to enter into a contract with Evelio Ley in conjunction with the University of Miami to coordinate the Interamerican Transportation Conference in behalf of the City with funds allocated from 4th... Mrs. Gordon: You better let that one rest too. Mr. Plummer: Let that one rest. Mrs. Gordon: And also 30, let that one rest. Mr. Plummer: Let 30 rest. 5. AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH LATIN RIVERFRONT DESIGN COMPETITION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS FOR LATIN hIVERFRONT PARK. Mr. Plummer: 31, any problem? Mrs. Gordon: That's alright, go ahead. Mr. Plummer: Ok. 31, authorizing_ the City to proceed with Latin Riverfront Design Competition: for the development of plans for Latin Riverfront Park. Moved by... seconded`by Cordon, any discussion of the public, hearing none call the roll. The following resolution was adoption: introduced by Commissioner Gibson ,'; RESOLUTION NO. 79-576 A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE LATIN COMMUNITY RIVERFRONT PARK PROJECT A CATEGORY "B" PROJECT UNDER ORDINANCE NO. 8965 ADOPTED JULY 23, 1979 (CONSULTANTS' COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATIONS ORDINANCE - CCNO); AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDUCT A DESIGN COMPETITION AND TO AWARD THREE (3) CASH PRIZEF OF $5,500, $3,500, AND $2,500 AND WARD SIX (6) HONORABLR MENTIONS USING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FUNDS TO FUND SAID AWARDS; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION POR- TIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT PHASE I, FOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file. in the Office of the City Clerk.) moved Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYLS: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor g1 .08 111111111111111111111111111111 II 1 1 111111 III. 1• SEP.1‘,;1979 6. RATIFY AND CONFIRM ISSUANCE OF CHECK TO MIAMI BANDITOS SOFTBALL TEAM FOR PARTLY DEFRAYING COST OF TRIP TO ST. LOUIS FOR NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. Mr. Plummer: Item 32, confirming the City Manaeer's action of issuing a $1,200 check to the Miami Banditos Softball Team from the Quality of Life Program Community Festivals Account for a championship game in St. Louis. Mrs. Gordon: Move. Mr. Plummer: .Moved by Rose Gordon, seconded by Father Gibson, any member o public wishes to discuss Item 32, hearing none call the roll. The foliowing resolution its adoption: was introduced by Commissioner Cordon RESOLUTION NO. 79-577 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND APPROVING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN ISSUING A CHECK IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,200 FOR PARTLY DEFRAYING THE TRAVEL EXPENSES OF THE MIAMI BANDITOS SOFTBALL TEAM, A PARTICIPANT IN THE CITY -SPONSORED SOFTBALL LEAGUE, FOR ITS TRIP TO ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, TO PLAY IN THE NATIONAL TOURNA- MENT WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "CONTINGENCY FUND, QUALITY OF LIFE PPOGRAM, COMMUNITY FESTIVALS ACCOUNT". (Here follows bod- of resolution, omitted here and on in theOffice of ..►e City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibsc..., the resolution adopted by the fcllowingvote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 7. APPOINT AARON MANES AS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD Mr. Plummer: 33, do you want to let it rest? Mrs. Gordon: No, I will move it. There were two applicants, but one of them I don't believe he is... I think he is withdrawing. Mr. Plummer: Well, if there is two applicants there I just got a letter of withdrawal. Mrs.. Gordon: One has withdrawn, so therefore, we can appoint the remaining one. I think his name is Manes. There is only one applicant and 1 nominate that =" he be appointed. Mr. Plummer: Alright, let's let that rest Mrs. Gordon: The name of the person is.. there can't be any controversy on it. Mr. Plummer: What's his name. .09 Mr. Ongie: Aaron Manes. Mrs. Gordon: Aaron Manes. thatss the gentleman from the motel on the Boulevard? Yes, there is no other applicants. I move it. r. Plummer: Rose, moves the name of Aaron Manes, Father Gibson seconds, any discussion from members of the public on Item 33, hearing none call the roll. ON ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: In voting let me say that this young man in the past has shown an indication that he is very vita:ly interested in his City and I think for that I am proud to vote "yes" because think he will be an asset to that Board. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-578 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AARON J. MANES AS AMBER OF THI CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING AND ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 1979. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 8. CONFIRMING RESOLUTION: APPOINT NOEMI A. FREEDMAN AS A MEMBER OF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD Mr. Plummer: Item 34, confirming the appointment of Noemi Freedman to the Affirmative Action Advisory Board. Mrs. Gordon: Moved by Gordon, seconded by Gibson, any member of the public wishing to discuss Item 34, hearing none call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-579 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING NOEMI A. FREEDMAN TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD UNTIL DECEMBER 10, 1980, TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF DEMETRIO PEREZ. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl .10 SE? : 1979 fit • its adoption: 9. ESTABLISH ADVISORY BOARD - DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA Mr. Plummer: 35, estab.ishing an Advisory Board in the Downtown Community Development Target are, the City Manager recommends. Moved by... Mrs. Gordon: Well, what about the appointees on that for... Mr. Grassie: This would pimply establish the Board Commissioner make the appointments. Mr. Plummer: Moved by Gordon and seconded by Gibson,:. any member wishing to discuss Item 35,hearing none call the roll.': rather than The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon RESOLUTION NO. 79-580 :RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AN ADVISORY BOARD IN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AS A PART'OF'THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM TO BE KNOWN AS THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD CONSISTING OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN TARGET AREA IN LIEU OF AN ELECTED FIFTEEN MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD. Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 10. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: AUTHORIZE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY MONTRESS JENKINS $7,407. Mr. Plummer: Authorizing the Director of Finance to pay Montress Jenkins and Lawrence Rodgers, Esquire the sum of $7,407, resulting from an accident involving a City of Miami vehicle, the City Attorney recommends. Rev. Gibson: Move. Mr. Plummer: Moved, by Gibson, seconded by Gordon.: Under discussion, City Attorney who is Lawrence Rodgers, Esquire? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer h,,;that's an attorney and that's something that That's right, that's why. I am asking. Mr. Alvarez: I have been informe the names of the attorneys, yes. Well, then Mr. Clerk, you will so note Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: would like to withdraw my Mr. Plummer: Well, let me change it Rose. sir, that therehas been you... a change deleting. for the record that this... '. secondon that and let it wait.`; gl .11 • Mrs. Gordon: Pardon me. r, Plummer: Well, let me change it. Authorizing the Director of Finance to pay Montress'Jenkins "the stem of"$7,407 resulting from an accident involiving a ',City `of Miami vehicle. Deleting the name of esquire. Mr s. Gordon: Ok. Mr. Plummer: Moved by Gordon and seconded by Gibson. Mrs. Gordon:. , Gibson"moved it. and I seconded. Mr. Plummer: Alright, reverse. Item 36, any member'of the, "•public"wishing"to discuss Item 36,'hearing "none call the "roll." The following its adoption: resolution was introduced by Commissi�ner Gibson;. RESOLUTION NO. 79-581 who moved. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO MONTRESS JENKINS WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $7,407.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURI, PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION LIENS, AND WORKMENS COMPENSATION LIENS, ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, AND UPON EXECUTION OF A RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYE,: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 11. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: SILVIA AND RAPHAEL FERRER Mr. Plummer: Item 37, authorizing the Director of Finance to pay Silvia Ferrer and Raphael Ferrer the sum of $7,000 resulting from an accident when the plaintiff tripped on City sidewalk and fell over a raised sidewalk flag. Moved by... Rev. Gibson: Move. Mr. Plummer: Gibson, seconded by Gordon. Mrs. Gordon: I want to ask youa question. pay this.. Mr. Alvarez: The Self-insurance Trust Fund. Mr. Plummer: Wheredo we get the inonies to The Trust Fund. Was it a City owned flag? Alvarez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: " Can't we go to the Legislature and get no,fault sidewalks? No, hey, I... you know, let me tell you something. There is a certain segment of the industry who no longer has a automobile business because of no fault automobile. I think we ought to strike out for no fault sidewalks. 01. Any member of the public wishing to discuss Item 37, hearing none call the roll. gl .12 S E P :• 1979, The following resolution was its adoption: introduced by Commissioner Gibson RESOLUTION NO. 79-582 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO SILVIA FERRER AND RAPHAEL FERRE, HER HUSBAND AND BRUMER, COHEN, LOGAN, KANDELL & REDLUS, THEIR ATTORNEYS, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $7,000.00, IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY, PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION LIENS, WORKMENS COMPENSATION LIENS, CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, AND UPON EXECUTION OF A RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY FROM ALL :.:LAIMS AND DEMANDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre 12. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: ARMANDO CUSIDO AND ANA CUSIDO Mr. Plummer: Authorizing the Director of Finance to pay Armando Cusido and Ana Cusido the sum of 35,000 resulting from an accident involving a City of Miami vehicle. Moved by Gibson, seconded by Gordon. Mrs. Gordon: Again, I want to ask some questions. Mrs. Gordon: How do you determine .the ..sums ,of monies that for these settlement? How do you deterinine those monies?,`: Mr. Plummer: Mr. Alvarez? are .being aside Mr. Alvarez: We make what is called a reserve' when..the event occurs and we establish the degree of injuries.and based on past;: experience;' then we'just make a reserve which is an estimate and we are usually within the'ball park. Mrs. Gordon: It's a difficult thing,to :set a figure'in'a case like. You haven't any other, you know, arbitrators or•determiners or` judge or anybody that makes this settlement' amount?, I mean, why 35 and not 25 or 45, h mean, you know... Mr. Plummer: I was:just,going to say Rose that 'I:hear. usually the term called potential liability;rand that's the :.thing that;'s.really impossible to determine, hat is your.potential liability as'to what you could get socked with. Ana I think thathas a bi$ bearing myself. Mr. Alvarez, please? Mr. Alvarez: Are you asking about the specific amounts? Mrs. Gordon: Yes,.I mean ,.you -know , it's,a hypothetical. It's not criticizing this particular.one, it's getting information for my own need. Mr. 'Alvarez: Let's .say that the stage of settlement after the lawsuit has been negotiated and we have had the opportunity to engage in discovery we will take depositions of the treating physicians, we will take the depositions of the plaintiff, we will -look into the plaintiff past history regarding income, job, how much that plaintiff has lost, then you compute what is called special damages. There is a rule in the industry that a settlement is proper when the amount is three times the amount of special damages. That is for settlement purposes. You know that every insurance company serves that. Now, you feel that the jury range of the case is higher and then the opposing counsel wants to agree to sell and so you buy the c.,se cheaper and you avoid... gl .13 Mrs. Gordon: I know that, I know the settlement procedures. I just wondered. how you got to the figures. Ok, let's move... let's call the roll. tfr: Plummer: Ok, Item 38, any further discussion ;by the public call the '`roll. The ;following its 'adoption: hearing none resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson who moved RESOLUTION NO. 79-583 A.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO ARMANDO CUSIDO AND ANA CUSIDO, INDIVIDUALLY AND AS PARENTS, NATURAL GUARDIANS AND NEXT FRIENDS OF ALEXANDER CUSIDO, A MINOR AND EARLE V. RIFAS ESQUIRE, ATTORNEY, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $35,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY, PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION LIENS, WORKMENS COMPENSATION LIENS, CLAIMS AND DEMANDS 'AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, AND WAYNE HENRY SMITH, AND UPON EXECUTION OF A RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS. (Here followp body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded adopted by the following AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre Mr. Plummer: I ask 39 to rest. by Commissioner Gordon, the resolutionwas passe vote: Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. and 13. RATIFY ACTION OF CITY MANAGER: EXTEND BREATHING APPARATUS AGREEME;J WITH SURVIVAIR, DIV. OF U. S. DIVERS CO. Mr. Plummer: 40, confirming and ratifying the action of the City Manager in extending the breathing apparatus agreement with the Survivair Division of U. S. Divers Inc., exercising the City's portion to exchange breathing apparatus, and purchage 200 spare cylinders. Moved by Plummer, seconded by... Gibson, any member of the public wishing to discuss Item 40, hearing none call the roll. Mrs. Gordon: You can't do that J. L. Mr. Plummer: Watch me. Mrs. Gordon: Alright, I move it... I got the gavel so I will call... call the question, go hea... The, following resolution was introduced by Comm issioner:Plummer ,'who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-584 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN EXTENDING THE BREATHING APPARATUS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE SURVIVAIR DIVISION OF U. S. DIVERS COMPANY; IN EXERCISING THE CITY'S OPTION TO EXCHANGE BREATHING APPARATUS; AND IN PURCHASING 200 SPARE CYLINDERS AT A TOTAL COST OF $29,200.00 FROM THE SINGLE SOURCE OF SUPPLY, SURVIVAIR, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION, AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND FUND. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the CLty Clerk.) gi 4 •i SEP 1G1979 :..LYStiu4 •sxvrsrt•x^n+e Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14. CONSENT AGENDA: (Agenda items 43 thru 66) Mr. Plummer: Consent Agenda Item 43 thru 66, anybody having any discussion on Consent Agenda? Mr. Jaffer, you are recognized. Mr. Jaffer: It's my understanding that you should have a public hearing before all the sewer improvements are ordered and for that reason I would request that they be withdrawn from the Consent Agenda. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grimm? Mr Plummer: Mr. Grimm: The ordering of the sewer disticts automatically establishes public hearing at which time the -=next_ action of -this Commission -is, to confirm that ordering 'resolution. This sets the wheels in ;motion for the public. hearing that Mr. Jaffer is requesting.- This before us:todayis Mr. Grimm: Yes, -sir..:.' Mr:. Plummer: Mr. Attorney? Mr. Alvarez: Yes, sir. Mr. Plummer:- Thank you. Mr. Jaffer, d n compliance with the Charter? you have further comments? a Mr. Jaffer: Just one thing. I remember one past meeting where the Clerk was directed to send me the resolutions of... some ordering resolutions on some other sewer improvements, I have never gotten any letter. And I would respectfully request that when the public hearing. do come up that they not appear on the Consent Agenda. Mr. Plummer: Thrik you, sir, for your comments. Any further comments from Members. of the public on the Consent Agenda Items 43 inclusive to Item 66, hearing -none call the roll. Excuse me, before the vote on adopting items included in the Consent Agenda is taken is there anyone present who is an objector; or proponent that wishes to speak on any item in the Consent Agenda, hearing none the vote of adoption of the Consent Agenda will now be taken. Mr. Clerk? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: What about 59... If you want it withdrawn_ please say so.`. es, I want to ask a question` about. Alright, 59, Mr. Manager would you expound on 59? Mr. Grassie:'`This is an internal shift of monies Commissioner Gordon, which is being made at the request of JESCA so that they can take monies that they have in one of their programs provided by the City and apply it to another program. It's a very small amount of money thirty-five hundred dollars. Mrs. Gordon: No, just curious why they were moving it from one area to the other. Mr. Grassier; Simply because they have a slight surplus in one of their programs Ad. . they: need it in the other. IIIIII IUII IIIIIIIIIA111111•11•■1■■111 I■ I ■ gl .15 SEP 14 1979 And at their request we are moving the money. Gordon: Alright, Iwasn't withdrawing it simply Ok, call the roll. following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Gibson, by Commissioner Gordon and passed and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. 14-•a SL-5463-5 - ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (sideline sewer). The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-585 A RESOLUTION ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5463-S (sideline sewer) AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5463-S (sideline sewer) (Here follows body of resolution, omitted in the Office of the City Clerk). here and";on file Upon being seconded by Commssioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-b Sr-5463-C - ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (centerline sewer). The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-586 A RESOLUTION ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5463-C (centerline sewer) AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5463-C (centerline sewer) (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk. 1.6 Upon being sdinded by Commissioner Gordon, • the resolution was passed and adopted by the followi.; vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-c SR-5462-C - ORDERING LY' ALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (centerline sewer) The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-587 A RESOLUTION ORDERING LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462-C (centerline sewer) AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5462-C (centerline sewer) (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Office of the City Clerk ) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14 -d SR-5462-S - ORDERING LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (sideline sewer). The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUT]'_ON NO. 79-588 A RESOLUTION ORDERING LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-54E62-S (sideline sewer) AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5462-S (sideline sewer) (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote: AYES:. Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl .17 SEP 151979 1 II III nuonim nl1111 14-e BID ACCEPTING: MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC. - LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-589 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $129,922 FOR LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK; ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $18,773 (2ND YEAR), $50,000 (3RD YEAR), $31,427 (4T11 YEAR), $12,500 (5TH YEAR), FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND" AND $17,222 FRM THE "PARKS FOR PEOPLE BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $19,488 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $2,590 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was gassed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-f BID ACCEPTING: GRAY CONSTRUCTION - MELREESE GOLF COURSE - STARTERS OFFICE The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-590 A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 79-351 ADOPTED MAY 22, 1979 WHICH AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF AMERICA, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,137 FOR THE MELREESE GOLF COURSE - STARTERS' OFFICE (2ND BIDDING) AND ACCEPTING THE BID OF GRAY CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $16,009, THE BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR MELREESE GOLF COURSE - STARTERS' OFFICE (3RD BIDDING); WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "MELREESE GOLF COURSE ENTERPRISE FUND"; WITH ADDITIONAL MONIES ALLOCATED FOR PROJECT AND INCIDENTAL EXPENSES FROM AFORESAID FUND; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH GRAY CONSTRUCTION FOR SAID PROJECT ,18 • (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here find on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayo:; Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-g AUTHORI.:ING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITS NEW YORKERS_ ANONYMOUS TO DESIGN, PRODUCE AND PRINT AN INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE ON SERVICES OFFERED BY THE CITY'S OFFICE OF TRADE & COMMERCE The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-591 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZINC :HE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND NEW YORKERS ANONYMOUS, INC. TO DESIGN AND CREATE AN INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE ON THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES OFFERED BY THE CITY'S OFFICE OF TRADE & COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREOF FROM 4TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $13,850. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and :on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-h AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE TO: ALL FLORIDA SANITATION SERVICE, INC. JOHNSON BROS. CONSOLIDATED WASTE, INC. PACKED SANITATION The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved . its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-592 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSES TO ALL FLORIDA SANITATION SERVICE, INC.; JOHNSON BROS. CONSOLIDATED WASTE, INC.; PACKED SANITATION; AND P. H. WASTE SERVICE, INC., PERMITTING THEM TO COMMERCE DOING BUSINESS UPON FULL COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 20 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted: -here in the Office of the City'Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl .19 14-i BIDS ACCEPTING: DeBra TURF & EQUIPMENT CO., BOYNTON PUMP & SUPPLY CO., AND DAVIS METER & SUPPLY CO. - GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION MATERIALS The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-593 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE FOLLOWING BIDS FOR FUNISHING THE DEPART- MENT OF LEISURE SERVICES WITH GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION MATERIALS: BID OF DEBRA TURF & EQUIPMENT CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $13,862.00; BID OF BOYNTON PUMP & SUPPLY CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $26,828.34; BID OF DAVIS METER & SUPPLY CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $16,880.00; AT A TOTAL COST OF $57,570.34; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1978-79 CAPTIAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET: AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE MATERIALS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.. 14-j ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: WEBB GENERAL CONTRACTING, INC. - CENTRAL MIAMI PARK 1978 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-594 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY WEBB GENERAL CONTRACTING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $155,388.00 FOR THE CENTRAL MIAMI PARK - 1978; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $15,538.80 •(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor. Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor:Ferre.,. gl SEP 1 3 1979 14-k ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: FRISA CORPORATION - VIRGINIA KEY RUBBISH PIT CLOSING The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-595 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK- PERFORMED BY FRISA CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $608,921.10 FOR THE VIRGINIA KEY RUBBISH PIT CLOSING - PHASEII-.1978; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $60,892.11 Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in 'the Office of the City .Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was adopted by`:. the :following :vote AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-1 ACCEPTING COMPLETED, WORK: ED RICKE AND SONS AND LARRY RICKE AND JAMES RICKE - HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICE FACILITY - MAINTENANCE BUILDING The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-596 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY ED RICKE AND SONS AND LARRY RICKE AND JAMES RICKE (JOINT VENTURE) AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,971,422.48 FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICE FACILITY - MAINTENANCE BUILDING (2ND BIDDING); AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $48,012,68. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and. in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon.being.:seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the adopted by:the following vote: AYES: Mrs._ Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer.- NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr: Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl S E P 13 1979. 2,1 14-m ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: ROSSER ELECTRIC CO., INC. - NORTHWESTERN HIGH SCHOOL FIELD LIGHTING •G The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-597 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY ROSSER ELECTRIC CO., INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $102,550.00 FOR THE NORTHWESTERN HIGH SCHOOL - FIELD LIGHTING; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $10,807.60 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-n AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACT WITH DADE COUNTY FOR STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SERVICES RENDERED 'Y THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , wh_ moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-598 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT FL-09-0038 BETWEEN DADE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SERVICES RENDERED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, EXTEND- ING THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE FROM 9/1/77 TO 9/30/79 AND INCREASING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. TO $211,000. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl 14-o BID ACCEPTING: ALLIED ELECTRIC COMPANY - COPPER WIRE The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-599 A iESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ALLIED ELECTRIC COMPANY FOR FURNISHING COPPER WIRE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF LEISURE SERVICES; AT A TOTAL COST OF $5,192.10; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1979-80 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET: AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THESE MATERIALS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. ALLbCRTING $5,000 FROM STH YEAR C.D. BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO CONTRACTORS TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, INC. FOR IMPLEMENTING THE SMALL AND MINORITY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS TRAINING PROGRAM The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-600 A RESOLUTION ALLLOCATING $5,000.00 FROM FIFTH YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO CONTRACTORS TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, INC., FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1979, AND ENDING MARCH 20, 1980, FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING THE SMALL AND MINORITY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS TRAINING PROGRAM; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH SAID APPROVED AGENCY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor NOES: None. ABSENT:! Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl SEP 1979 AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION 78-620, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS RESOLUTION FOR U. S. FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING SOCIAL SERVICE FUNDS, BY DECRLASING JESCA (Culmer) IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,560; AND BY INCREASING JESCA (Coconut Grove) IN THE SAME AMOUNT. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-601 A RESOLUTION AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION• NO. 78-620, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 28, 1978, APPROV- ING THE APPROPRIATION OF UNITED STATES FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING SOCIAL SERVICE FUNDS FOR THL FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979, BY DECREASING THE ALLOCATION FOR JESCA (CULMER) IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,500 AND BY INCREASING THE ALLO- CATION FOR JESCA (COCONUT GROVE) IN THE SAME AMOUNT, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENABLING JESCA'S COCONUT GROVE PROGRAM TO CONTINUE OPERATING THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR; AUTHOR- IZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMENU THE EXISTING FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING CONTRACTS FOR THIS AGENCY; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. (Fiore follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner :cordon, the resolution adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-r ACCEPTI„'G CO;tPLETED WORK: MET CONSTRUCTION, INC. - ORANGE BOWL - LOWER PRESS BOX REFURBISHING PRASE I - 1970 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-602 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY MET CONSTRUCTION, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $29,723.50 FOR THE ORANGE BOWL - LOWER PRESS BOX REFURBISHING PHASE I - 1978 Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk,) Upon being seconded by Commissioner adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice - NY.I.S : None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. Gordon, the resolution; was Mayor Plummer. SEP 13 19/ M 14-s ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK: T&N CONSTRUCTION CO. - COCONUT GROVE C.D. PAVING PROJECT The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-603 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY T & N CONSTRUCTION CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $289,506.69 FOR THE COCONUT GROVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PAVING PROJECT; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $28,950.67 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted h:re and on in ,the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vlce-Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-t BID ACCEPTING: SANMAR GENERAL CONTRACTORS, INC. - FIRE STATION NO. 4 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-604 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF SANMAR GENERAL CONTRACTORS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $867,000, THE TOTAL BID OF THE PROPOSAL PLUS ALTERNATE ITEM 2 LESS DEDUCT ALTERNATE ITEM 4 FOR FIRE STATION NO. 4 (2ND BIDDING); WITH MONIES THEREFORE ALLOCATED FROM THE "FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION, AND RESCUE FACILITIES G. 0. BOND FUND"; WITH ADDITIONAL MONIES ALLOCATED FOR PROJECT AND INCIDENTAL EXPENSES FROM AFORESAID FUND; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gl .2,5 14-u BID ACCEPTING: L.G.H. CONSTRUCTION CORP - FIRE STATION NO. 14 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-605 A tESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF L.G.H. CONSTRUCTION CORP. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $837,149, THE BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL PLUS ADDITIVE ALTERNATE ITEMS 2 AND 3, FOR FIRE STATION NO. 14 (2ND BIDDING); ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $676,000 FROM THE "5TH YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND" AND $161,149 FROM THE "FIRE FIGHTING,;; FIRE PREVENTION, AND RESCUE FACILITIES G.O. BOND FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUNDS THE AMOUNT OF $37,680 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUNDS THE AMOUNT OF $8,171 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Officeof the City, Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 14-v PUBLIC HEARING: PORT OF MIAMI DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT NOVEMBER 22, 1979 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-606 A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING NOVEMBER 20, 1979, AS THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PORT OF MIAMI APPLICA- TION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer.; NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor 26 14-w PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET OF TEE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who movec its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-607 A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING ';OF,THE.CITY > OF MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER_1, 1979 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and "on"fil in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. the resolution was passed and 14-x PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE OLYMPIA BUILDING. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-608 A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE OLYMPIA BUILDING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 1979 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980 (Here follows body of resolution, in the Office of the City Clerk.) omitted here and on..file.: Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the resolution adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and, Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.: Mr. Plummer: Well, let's look this thing over. Is there any reason Mr. Grassie that we can't handle the second readings? Mr. Grassie: No, sir, they all have been adopted on first reading of course, and there is no reason... Mr.,Plummer: Well, let's go ahead. You know, anything We can get out of the waylet's do it. As far as I'm concerned if,you have got a problem" or any CoMMissioner does we will deal with that accordingly. Mr. Grassie Item 8, for example, I think is... Mr. _Plummer: _=Alright, 'Item 8,Mr. :City Attorney read the ordinance. :Item.. second reading. Mrs.. Gordon: No, let that one ride because have questions and I would rather take it up later. Mr. Plummmer: Let ,that,orie ride. lc. Item 9, You got any Problem with that one. : I'm sure You don ':t. Ifem:9;.Mr..City Attorney, would you read the ordiance? (THE CITY ATTORNEY READS THE ORDINANCE INTO THE RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Any discussion? Mr Ongie We don'* have four fifths. Mr.. Plummer:: We don't 'have four fifths. What about four fifths; of : the: Commission or four fifths of; a maority. .::Alvarez: Of the Commission.',` Mr.Plummer: Well, we tried. How about Item"10? Mr. Alvarez: Same situation. Mr".Plummer: 11 is the same What about Mrs. Gordon: The same. Mr. Plummer: Item 13? Mrs. Gordon: Yes, you better let that one rest. 15. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH BUILDING INSPECTION PROGRAM FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ESTABLISH SCHEDULE OF FEES Mr. Plummer: Item 14? We can do 14. Mrs. Gordon: Yes. Rev. Gibson: I think we can do 14. Mr. Plummer: Read 14 Mr. City Attorney. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Plummer: Moved by Gibson, seconded by Gordon Anybody wishing of the Public to discuss Item' 14, hearing none call the roll. gl Move. 8 SEg 13 1979 AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED: AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTION 2-24.1(2) AND SUBSECTION 17-26(a) OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY ESTABLISHING AN ANNUAL FIRE SAFETY INSPEC- TION PROGRAM TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR BUILDINGS AND PREMISES, EXCEPT THE INTERIORS OF DWELLINGS, AND PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF INSPECTION AND ESTABLISHING A SCHEDULE OF FEES THEREFOR; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner passed on its first reading by title by the following vote - AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson and Vice-Mavor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record an announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. Mr. Plummer: I think 15 should wait with the others. 16. CONFI RNING RESOLUTION: DESIGNATE ROSE GORDON AS VOTING DELEGATE TO THE ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES REV. GIBSON AS ALTERNATE Mr. Plummer: 16, a resolution, it doesn't have to be read. We have already done 16 in designating Mrs. Gordon and Father as the alternate.. Motion by Plummer, seconded by Gibson, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved_: its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-609 A:RESOLUTION DESIGNATING COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON AS THE CITY'S VOTING DELEGATE TO THE 3RD ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 25, 26, AND 27, 1979, IN KISSIMMEE, FLORIDA; FURTHER DESIGNATING COMMISSIONER (REV.) i'.iEODORE R. GIBSON AS THE ALTERNATE VOTING DELEGATE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson,the resolution was,passed.an adopted by the following v� AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson ,and ;-Vice-Mayor ?Plumner. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. gi 1979 Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Sir? Mr. Plummer: Mrs Gordon and,I are going to have a problem on October 25th based upon the fact that I as Presidentof the Florida League will be mustering out and it is the Convention. Can you try to solicit from the remaining Commissioners moving that date I would hope forward If possible or... that Convention start on the 25th, 26th and 27th, keeping chose dates in mind, if you could try to get an alternate date. Mr. Grassie: Yes. Could we get at this point from the three members of the Commission present a consensus on the 23rd? Mr. Plummer: Well, why don'twe give during the Commission to... Mrs. Gordon:. A chance to look things over. Mr. Plummer: Huh? Mrs. Gordon:. will look things: over.`.' this break the opportunity for. Mr. Plummer: Yes, and come back.... you?come':back;,with the. target' date we will try :to come bac .. with clear ,calendars.' Wait a'. minute,. hold on Clerk? (BACKGROUND` COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) and Mr. Mr. Plummer: Also for the Commission's` edification Thanksgiving this year` is on the 22nd of November andwe:-have`to,figure'an alternate date for that also. So if you want to try.'to"address loth -Of those problems when we come back... Mrs. Gordon: What'was didn't hear you? Mr. Plummer: Thank.sgiving'is.on the 22nd of November which is our targeted. second date of.the`Commission, soyou might try to come up with an alternate date for.November. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: days. The.League Meeting is Mr. Grassie, the 25th,'"26th:.and 27th,`three.. Mr. Grassie: Could we shoot for the 29th or the 30th. Mr. Plummer: I" wouldprefer of the two dates the 30th. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Plummer:: The 30th? Mondays are always rough for me. Mr. Grassie: As a tentative target then? Mr. Plummer:. Rose, wouldyou check your calendar for October 30th and Father and see if that date is available to you? When.you come back Rose, you don't have to do it right away. What about a target date for the Thanksgiving Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie Would the 20th of the... we could eitherdo it the 20th or the 29th.' Mr. Plummer Well, why don'`1 don't we do it the 20th. Mr. Grassie: The 20th.. we... what's; best ;for, you Mr. Grassie? Why: Mr. Plummer: Alright,;we will shoot then to change those two dates to.October-' 30th and"November 20th:if you, all`,wilh check your.; calendars for those two,! changes. Ok, s Commission will stand in"adjournment 'until 10,;o'.clock NOTE: THE COMMISSION i'obk A RECESS 'AT 9:45 A.M. _ „ Sip �91 ". gl .30 NOTE: THE COMMISSION RECONVENED AT 10:30 A.M. WITH THE MAYOR NOW PRESENT. 17. MAYOR'S REPORT OF DAMAGE IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND RELIEF EFFORTS. Mayor Ferre: Armando Lacasa and ten other people and I left and we went to the Dominican Republic with a plane load of medicine and food and we got on a air cargo plane last night at 11:30 and didn't arrive at Miami International Airport until 4:30 this morning. So you can imagine how we feel. But let me tell you that it was well worth and it was... I felt very... reAly shocked by what I saw in the Dominican Republic. It's a country that's completely devastated. I have never seen anything like it. Rows and rows of houses missing, no roofs, it's just an unbelievable plight. There are over three thousand people dead. The country as you fly over it looks like it's completely under water. The... I understand there are five hundred thousand homeless people and there is a hundred fifty thousand children that have not eaten for close to a week, that's how sad it is and the country looks like it's just in crisis. We had the opportunity to visit with thc, President. I just wanted to share with you my concern as an american that we weren't getting sufficient notice of what was going on. The Cubans are sending one plane a day full of food and medicine. And the Minister of Health and the Minister of Education had been invited to the Dominican Republic and they have gottena tremendous amount of press and we haven't been able to do anything like that, so I thought it was very important both as an American and representing Miami, that to show that at least we cared. And I really want to take the time to recognize the Latin Chamber of Commerce and the Latin Sales Association and the 2506 Brigade who were responsible for donating of all this food and over fifty thousand dollars worth of medicine. And I would like very much if the Clerk would have the appropriate... I guess the Manager really, I'm sorry, the Manager if you would have an appropriate proclamation for these three organizations that went out and did such a wonderful job in getting food and medicine. I' would strongly recommend that as you hear of further marathons and troves to collect food and medicine, that you all cooperate. These are people that come here and spend their tourist dollars by the millions and we are very happy to take their dollars and take them into our restaurants and hotels and sell them real estate and ap::rtments and what have you. , And I think that it's a country in need and I think we should be responsible. Ok. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me,;Mr. Mayor, in giving you the agenda that has already been passed, I failed to bring to .your attention that on the minutes as `outlined Mrs. Gordon asked that they be carried over to the next meeting because it was stated that the Clerk had not made copies available because of the tremendous amount of volume for the public to be able to read. So it has been continued for two weeks. Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you. 18. CHANGE DATES OF COMMITTION MEETINGS - 2ND MEETINGS IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER. NOTE: MR. LACASA ENTERED THE MEETING AT 10:35. Mr. Plummer: And the final item Mr. Mayor, that we discussed, I have a personal problem together with Mrs. Gordon, October 25, 26, and 27th in attendance of the Florida League Convention. So we are shooting if possible and calendars are available for that meeting to be changed to the 30th of October, likewise the problems existing on the 22nd of November being Thanksgiving, we have availability gl .31 SE!) 151979 of calendars possibly that the Manager has recommended November:20th.. if you all can check your calendars of those... Mayor Ferre: ,..Well, :,let's wait Until Commissioner can finalize that. Lacasa•is:here so that we;' Mr. Plummer: He just.walked in the door and ;I hope he .heard;:those-two dates.'+ . That's October 30th changed.from the 25th to'''the `30th and November"22nd to November 20th. Mayor Ferre: November ;:22nd.you say? Yes that is Thanksgiving. Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer:: 22nd is Thanksgivingwhich is our regularly scheduled date and is being proposed to be. changed to the 20th of •November. Oh, November 20th. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, ok. Well, I will check tny.... November 20th acceptable to the rest of the Commission? (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) s the 30th and, Mayor Ferre: Ok,.I will varify it later on this afternoon, butas now October 30th and November 20th are, fine with me. of right;; Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that subject to,possible .correct"thatthe second meeting of October scheduled, for. the`25th;be ch_angedito.the 30th second meeting in' November' that:is scheduled, for 'the.22nd be,change d:to November 20th and I so` -move." Mr. Lacasa: Second. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a secon Mrs. Gordon: What was that again, J. L.? The dates?' Mayor Ferre:' The dates are the same, same dates that you agreed to before. urther: discussi"on' October 30th and Novetnber 20th, the Mr. Plummer: Any Commissioner having a problem Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the'roll<.` if none, then it's :passe The following resolution was introduced -by Commissioner Plummer,; who move its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-610 A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS OF OCTOBER 25, 1979 AND NOVEMBER 22, 1979 TO TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 30, 1979 AND NOVEMBER 20, 1979, RESPECTIVELY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, adopted by the following vote: AYES: NOES: gl None. here and On file the resolution,was passed an Commissioner Rose Gordon . Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer,.Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre .32 SF° j 1379 19. DISCUSSION OF ORANGE BOW1. AGREEMENTS - (RATIFIED AT AFTERNOON SESSION) Mayor Ferre: Alright. Now, we are now on Agenda B and this is the discussion of the Orange Bowl Agreements. We have the Orange Bowl Agreements all... I asked the Law Department to prepare all of these different agreements and I will recognize Mrs. Gordon now to discuss her position at this point. Mrs. Gordon: As everyone here knows the Miami Dolpins have said... Mr. Robbie has said on numerous occasions and has come back to us that he may move Los Angeles with the Dolphins. As you know this is a great concern to this community for many reasons. The Dolphins should remain and must remain in this area. The Wilson Committee that reached an agreetnent with Mr. Robbie... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mrs, Gordon, the agenda that's passed already. Mrs. Gordon: I'll wait until 1 get attention. That's .ok`, I have time, will wait. Mr. Mayor, it would be nice if you put that on the tape Mayor Ferre: I'm not Mrs. Gordon, doing anything that you have to worry about. Nc.., you talk to Father Gibson all t time and if not, I will show you some pictures that Tar have on record, you know, so don't come telling tne these, things. Mrs. Gordon: Can we have some attention now, :.'so we can discuss this item?"< Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon, I" am now completed in telling Mr. Lacasa what has been completed this morning before his arrival and you have my attention. Mrs. got the game plan all set? Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon,'I have many, many pictures.of you talking to different members of the Commission during sessions and I have... in fact we are compiling a file of it right now. I would be happy to give it to you so you can settle down on your campaign comments during the rest of the day. Now, continue. Mrs. Gordon: The Miami Dolphins are an economic necessity to this community. I think that we here on this Commission have a responsibility to settle the differences with the Dolphins and with Mr. Robbie, that we need to take into account the recommendations that were made by the Wilson Committee, basically with some minor changes that have been injected by this Commission and settle it now once and for all. Pass the three resolutions that we have in our packet and tell the Dolphins and tell the community that we indeed appreciate them and are ready to move forward in that way. I just simply wanted to comment on that. I askedthis matter to be brought here today so that we may have a long range settlement, so that the controversies will not erupt again in a year from now or in two years from now. But that will be settled and settled until the end of his contract which is 1986. Mayor Ferre: I of course, have voted on seventeen, different occasions for beer in the Orange Bowl. I have not voted against beer... any recommendation for beer in the Orange Bowl since the very beginning. I>have seventeen "yes" votes. I'm not going to start casting any aspersions or remarks about people who voted fifteen times one way and then six months before an elections start chanOng their positions, but I think that's self-evident and apparent the motivations behind all these type of things. My position remains constant. I have been and am today for an extension of the concession contract at the Orange Bowl. I think it's something that is... I don't care about Mr. Robbie or the Dolphins and how they perceive the problem. My concern, of course, is what it means to the City of Miami and what it means to the City of Miami is millions of dollars of income and I think it's something that is long over due. I appointed the Wilson Committee for that purpose. It was an appointment that I made unilaterally. It is a blue chip Committee well representing the cross section of this community. They came up with a valid recommendation. I backed it then, I back it now. We have taken this same vote now about three gl 33 SE? :. 1979 or four times. The last one was several weeks ago and there was no break through. I don't know whether we will have one today, I'm willing to vc: one more time, but before we do that, I would like to pass the gavel over to 'Mr. 'Plummer for purposes of being recognized to make a motion. Mrs. Gordon: Question on the timing... Mayor Ferre: I think I have the floor Mr. Chairman. Mrs. Gordon: I'm not interrupting your passing whatever you wish to pass, but I'm simply asking the question since we are on the Committee of the Whole Item which is a discussion item and the regular agenda calls for this to come up in the afternoon and assuming there will be people who are interested:;; in the subject who might want to be present, reenforcing the support that they; feel should be given to this item, that any motions relating to this item should be kept until the regular agenda position in the afternoon. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, once again, for the last two to three years, we have been making motion in the morning Committee of the Whole meetings left and right, including yourself and I can give you a list of the motion that you made in the last two meetings in the Committee of the Whole. Now, all of the sudden it is not politically convenient for you and once again you switch. Mr. Plummer: Are you two ready for the ruling of the Chair? Mayor Ferre: Go ahead. Mrs. Gordon: I'm not arguing... Mr. Plummer: The ruling of the Chair is that the past practice of motions of intent will be acceptable, a resoluti:,n will be in the afternoon. Mayor Ferre: Alright, I in the purposes... in the interest of moving along in this process... I think as you know in the past we have had differences, I think it's important to start climbing up the ladder. In other words, let's start at the lowest denominator where we can probably all agree and see if we can pass that. And then we can move along and see if we can pass something a little bit stronger to see how far we get. So with that thought in mind I move that the City of Miami permit the food franchisee...the Dolphins to be entitled to sell beer at the Orange Bowl beginning immediately and running through to the end of there food... present food contract, which is July of 1980 and that they pay the City of Miami twenty-five percent of what they receive. That this matter not have any capital expenditure expense. to the Cit. of Miami ark! that beer cans be prohibited from being given to the customer. In other words, the vendor will pour the contents of the beer bottle or the beer can into a plastic container which will be then given to the customer. Mr. Plummer: Would the wording be Mayor Ferre: To the customer put a minimum price. Rev. Gibson: 'served the customer in cups onlyV' in cupsonly, ok. Lastly, I ;think. we ought to . Mayor, you said plastic cups. Mr. Plummer: 'Well, cups, I think... Mayor • Rev. Gi you know... no Father. because I don't know that they, are plastic erre: It could be paper cups. bon: Oh, well, just so it is... you know, Mayor Ferre: Rev. Gibson: Yes. Mayor' Ferre: Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: One dollar. Mayor Ferre: Minimum. Soft cups, o Soft cups. And lastly that we. because that other cup that beer be sold for ,a,minimum of.:.. SEP 13 979 gl Mr. Plummer: Minimum? Minimum? Mayor Ferrer 06 of $1.25 shouldn't it be? Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, may I inter industry, standards? Mayor Ferrer, Alright. I accept that, of accPatable it:.;stry;standards... standards.in other stadiums... similar stadiums. Is that good enough? Mr. Plummer: That's the terminology that; I had used. Mayor Ferrer Alright, after.. Chairman. Mr: Plummer: Mayor Ferrer: Yes Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: You said "atno expense'. to the City.of:installation" Mr..Plummer Mr Mayor, one of'` -the other' proposals of,'many ..:I,want to""make sure "that is: included -`here is that "there -be no -::expense ,incurred by, the''Citty, even rf, the;;pres " ent concessioniare i;:;-not`,the renewed: concessioniare".." if you will "recall :there' was a', -"buy ' out :facto. r Mayor Ferre: - Alright, yes, Mrs. Gordon: What was that J. L.? Mr. Plummer: Rose, let me clarify it. My big bugaboo as you know, has been the three hundred thirty thousand dollar installation expense, alright. One of the proposals made by the concessioniare is that the_Ci•-y pick up two hundred twenty thousand of that expense, they pick up one third or a hundred ten, but if he was not the successful bidder next year the City would have to pay him seventy-five thousand dollars a buy out. And what. I'm trying to clarify is that the meaning in terminology "no City expense incurred" is the fact that there will be no installation of super equipment, nor will the,:;'. City have to buy out that seventy-five thousand. That' what... Mr. Grassie do you understand what I'm saying? as part of the motion. Mr. Grassie: Yes, very clearly Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: to the City.. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Chairman? Mayor Ferre Alright, that's the sense o And whatever the proper Mr. Plummer: Well, letimerepeat the`mvti.on.then, for clarification and then I will'ask.for a second. I understand.t'it this is for the":seven remaining home games,.whichwill take us... Mayor Ferrer Well, it might include the Orange Bowl other than high school. Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: That there be no expense to the. City or buy out,:that.it be. served in cups only, prices would be as indicated, industry standards. Is that the sense of your motion? Mayor Ferrer Yes, I think that covers... oh, You put in that twenty-five percent return?, Mr. Plummer: Yes, it written. Mayor Ferre: Yes, ok. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Chairman? 1980 at twenty-five percent. I'diu not say ;it,"but.I'have L 35 Sr. ,f;1979 gi Mr. Plummer: Mr. Lacasa? Mr. Lacasa: I would like to be recognized to second this motion.,. Mr. Plummer: 'You have'seconded the motion? Mr. Lacasa: I second the motion and I.. Mr. Plummer: Now, you can discuss it. Mr. Lacasa: And in doing so, I want to explain the following. I for one, believe that beer should be sold in the Orange Bowl, that was .:hat thH• people of the City of Miami decided to do when they voted upon this issue in a referendum. The question is who sells the beer and at what price. I believe that Joe Robbie and the Dolphins has the best of interest in the Orange Bowl and in the Dolphin games and therefore, I have no problems with Joe Robbie and the Dolphins selling the beer. I even welcome that, but my problem is with what kind of a contract would the City of Miami get. And this City Commission is responsible for seeing that whatever contracts we enter into either with the Dolphins or with any other private enterprise, be one that the City could live with and that is not unconscionable. Seven games remains this season to be played and as I have said before and we voted upon this about a month ago. I gladly second the motion and I am going to vote for the Dolphins and Mr. Robbie being allowed to sell the beer, twenty-five percen as the motion calls for, for the remaining games of this season. The problem here is what happen thereafter. In 1980 we will have an opportunity to see Mr. Robbie and the Dolphins coming before this City Commission and negotiating in good faith with the City, to give the City the opportunity to give them a contract which is fair to the taxpayers of the City of Miami. A contract that is fair to the Dolphins, that is fair to Joe Robbie, but at the same time give the City taxpayers the opportunity to have a contract that is compatible with other contracts, with other concessions in the NFL. With that in mind, I second this motion and with that in mind I plead with Joe Robbie and the Dolphins to accept this offer from the City of Miami and to come back _to us and negotiate in good faith, because I for one, am more than willing to solve this problem once and for all and I would be very happy if we could enter into a contract with Robbieand the Dolphins as long as that contract is not unconscionable to the City of Miami because as long as.I am: sitting in this City Commission I am not going to, vote under the gun on any:. contract whatsoever being this one or anyone else. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Chairman, as the maker of .the motion may recognized to explain the sense of thee'motion? Mr. Plummer: Surely, sir. Mayor Ferre: I want to be clear on the record that it is my intention now and. I will .certainly let Mrs. Gordon make the motion and I`: will second it and if she doesn't then, I will make it and see if somebody willsecond it, to try to go to a 1986 contract with the Dolphins. I plan to do that right after this motion either passes or fails, especially if it passes. However, if that should fail as it has in the past, I think we should show good faith now as far as this year is concerned. In addition to that,we.are talking abou a hundred thousand dollars for the coffers of the City of Miami that ..wewill get in the forthcoming... over a hundred thousand dollars that we will get from the remaining games in the estimated sales of beer. I think that's important. Now, I would hope that Mr. Robbie would understand that this motion in no way addresses the score board, the terms of his lease, his contract to. renegotiate which is still binding obviously, on us, the fact that we may be flexible on how we approacn the renegotiation, that we will not necessarily go out to bid, there may be other ways of solving that problem, that it is Indeed an open subject, that all we are talking about specifically in this motion is beer in the Orange Bowl this year. It doesn't address anything else, ok. Mr. Plummer: The Chairman will hold his comments until last. do you wish to be recognized? Mrs. Gordon: Question on the twenty-five percent factor. Howdid at that estimate of value for this .yearservice?' gl r Mayor Ferre: In discussion with Mr. Robbie and reviewing the voluminous minutes of all these meetings and all the discussions that have gone on 1 will remind you that in the month of May we voted for a one year contract at thirty-five percent. The vote was four to one with you voting against Mrs. Gordon and at that particular time, this is before you changed your mind on beer and in those days you were worried about principle and the moral aspects of selling beer in the Orange Bowl, and in that vote there were some very specific terms which Mr. Robbie specifically turned down and he_ specifically told me that at thirty-five percent no vendor could make a return by selling. beer manually, that is without having an automated system. The trouble with the automated system of course, is that it cost three hundred fifty thousand dollars to install and that of course, is one of the problems that Mr. Plummer has had on voting for this issue. So therefore, we arrived at twenty-five percent because that isaccording to several people in the industry, a fair return if you do beer on a manual basis. Mr. Robbie has already turned down thirty-five percent, so in the interest of not going through this thing -.er and over again, this is a reasonable way to approach it. Mrs. Gordon: This was an estimate that you made. In other words, you have had no agreement yet from him that he is willing to proceed to install or to utilize this privilege if it's given to him for twenty-five percent? Mayor Ferre: I think it's important that the City of Miami make the offer of something that is. reasonable. I did not ask for Mr. Robbie to give an answer. Now, I didn't think that, thatwas. appropriate. I think it is up. to us to make a recommendation of what we`can 'live with and let Mr. Robbie' accept or reject it. Mrs Gordon: Question; also, is the estimate of profit to the City. Where does this number come ,from? Who develops the number. and what statistics:<. were used to arrive at'that estimate? Mayor Ferre: Let Mr. Jennings answer that. question. eleven games left, not seven. Mr. Plummer: There is seven of the Mayor Ferre: it doesn't... Mr.' Plummer.: Mayor Ferre: Jennings? Dolphin home games recall there are ". Yes, but that doesn't include the 'Orange Blossom.Classic and There are four home gamesof: the University, Mr. Mayor. And it doesn't include the Orange Bowl Pageant itself.` Mr Mr. Jennings: Mr Mayor ;and members of the Commission, I did develop some figures on`the basis... using the assumptions that the cost of beer woula be one doll"ar,' that the City's commission would be twenty-five percent, that there_,would;be "of the remaining games in the 1979 season for... at which we would sell beer. would be seven Dolphin games, three University of Miami games, one Orange Blossom Classic and one Orange Bowl Classic for a total attendance of five hundred; forty-five thousand people at those twelve games. Also an assumption,; that there would be an average beer purchased per attendee. That would'be on the basis... Mrs. Gordon: That includes all the children present too? Mr. Jennings: ::Well, you see,, the children present would be. offset by those people who .drink two:; or three. :This :is-a.<general; assumption that .is made at the various stadiums and s seems to `bear. seems to come-out;rather accurate Mrs. Gordon: Would you back up the deficit it,_there is oneWould ;;you put your credit on the line? Mr. Jennings: Will ,I.personally? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Jennings: Mrs. Gordon: Yes. No, Ma' art:. Why not? gl • Mr. Jennings: These are estimates and there.is nothing you Mayor Ferre: -Are those industry standards Mr Jennings? Mr. Jennings: Yes, I would... Mayor Ferre: In your professional opinion those are reasonable Mr. Jennings: Yes, they are reasonable. Mayor Ferre': Alright, thank you. Mr. Jennings: This would produce a projected thirty thusand dollars approximately. Mr; Plummer: Mrs. Gordon, further questions? Father, do you have any or comments? Mrs. Gordon, do you have any further? Mrs. Gordon: J. L., I was just being shown an estimate of yours which shows a tremendous difference in projection of income based upon the difference between forty-four percent and thirty percent and I don't know how accurate.. your estimates are. Mr. Plummer: Well, no, that's not... ok, that was my estimate know which one you are working for, but Rose that was.also based'on hundred thousand beers being served. Mrs. Gordon: How many? Mr. Plummer: Eight hundred thousand, ok. Now, needless to.say there is not going to be any where near eight hundred thousand served with this system which is being proposed as opposed to that super installationcsystem. So that's why those projections don't hold true 'at -,this point. See that was the.' Do you understand what I'm saying? Mrs. Gordon: I understand what you are saying. You don't want to hold with this on a bot.le to container... plastic container basis, but only on a`draft style basis from a piping system. Mayor Ferre: In other words, you are Mrs. Gordon. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Chairman? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Lacasa? comparing,apples= with 'oranges again' Mr. Lacasa: I would like to add some comments to this discussion and I think they will be helpful because much as been written .and said about the position that the City Commission has taken concerning or the majority of the City Commission has taken concerning this affair. The City of Miami historically has been very supportive, the City Commission, of the Dolphins. In 1966 and in 1967 when the Dolphins started playing and they were an unknown team and they indeed needed help and support and by the I mean financial help and support. The City of Miami was charging the Dolphins sixteen thousand dollars per game. It was then increased throughout the years to a hundred fifty thousand per year, to a hundred seventy thousand dollars per year. In 1971 through 1975 they were paying two hundred thousand dollars per year. Those were, shall we say the "macaroni years for the Dolphins". Those were the days when the Dolphins was not the kind of team they are now. They were not so. well recognized, may be the team was not making the profits that they are now making. Still at this point in time when the Dolphins after having won several championships, after having been one of the major teams in the NFL, the Dolphins are paying the City of Miami for the rent of the Orange Bowl a net amount of three hundred fifty thousand dollars, which is by far under the average for the NFL teams for what they pay to other stadiums. I believe that the press should when they inform the public about this discussion between the City Commission and the Orange Bowl and the Dolphins takes this into consideration. This is not a question, this is not a matter where the City Commission is trying extract every single penny out of the Dolphins and drive them to bankruptcy. This is a history of support both .financial and moral on the part of the City of Miami, a competitive enterprise to which the Dolphin contributed gl .38 S E P 13 1979 a lot by being the kind of a team they are, but by which the City of Miami Commission supported them from the very beginning by giving them very: beneficial'- rates. And I insist that at this point in time the Dolphins pay much less than the average of what'the NFL. teams pay all across the nation. So it's only fair for us to expect that when in defending the interest of the taxpayers of the City of Miami we ask Joe Robbie and the Dolphins to negotiate in good faith with us and give us just a compatible contract to what other teams and other concessionaires are doing with their own Cities. I believe that we should get the support in this and at 'least a fair piece of information given to the public, because I have talked to many people who have great concerns about this issue, because everyone, including myself want the Dolphins to play here in Miami and to stay here. I think they are a tremendous asset for the City. But people are not well informed about this. All they know is about the bickering between the City and between the Dolphins and the threat of the Dolphins to be taken out of here and move to L.A. or whatever and these are facts that the public should be informed, so. they know that this. City Commission is voting on this issue based on the interest of the taxpayers:`;: and on principles of equity and fair play. Mayor Mrs. Ferre: Mr, Chairman, I call the question. Gordon: Mr. -Jennings, for information. Mr. Plummer:. Mayor Ferree. Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Mr Jennings, a cuestion and then the Chairman would like some comments.`` Would you preclude,the'Chairman from.mak;ng some comments? Oh, I'm sorry, I withdraw my. s; being asked of you Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Jennings in :'our estimate: of return 'to the City what consideration did you give to the security factor and the agreement that:�i presently with the City... bthe City.with, .with; the ' FOP? - Mr. Jennings: Well, it's consistently been my opinion, again, base communications with other stadiums who do serve 'beer and..":" Mrs. Gordon: No, I'm talking;, about your considering your estimate return to the City. -Did yo.u.take into consideration that factor?< on or :a Mr. Jennings: Well, I'm not assuming that any additional security is going, be necessary Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon Well, Mr. Jennings Because that has been the history a League -:stadiums. - Mrs. Gordon: I:believe it'.i Mr.' Jennings: The people bring in beer and alcohol evident when you clean the stadium after the game. other National.Footbal' now and:' this is quite, Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but not;, thenumbersof';people .that ,will be consuming it according to yours that everybody is going to have at least one drink and some will have certainly more than` that. I believe that if you wish to have an accurate appraisal made of the return tc the City, you in all fairness to us should take into consideration the security factors that will be costing us. What it will be costing us, number one and number two, what additional maintenance cost may be involved in cleaning up the debris of the additional cups and so forth that will be laying around, if there is an additional cost. What would it be. More importantly the cost of additional security and you can't ignore that fact and wish it away or blink it away, you have got to face it and then let us make a decision based on the absolute facts, ok. Is there anyone here Mr. Grassie, that you can obtain for us an estimate or an absolute opinion whether or not additional security is going to be needed and what it means to your agreement or our agreement with the FOP relative to the beer being served. I think it's your responsibility as a Manager to speak out to that issue. Mr. Grassie: I'm always happy to have you identify my responsibility Commissioner. You know, the last time we talked with the FOP about this issue it was a gi .39 SEP 7•,1579 discussion between representatives of the FOP and the Police Chief which settled the question at that time about a year ago :Ind in those discussions it was concluded that if the circumstances with regard to the sale of beer: in the Orange Bowl should change, .that the Chief and the FOP would revisit the question, that it would be reopened and that they would have further discussions. Now, I'm assuming that, that is still the case. I think that, the definitive opinion that you are asking for has been given to you at one level in the sense that Bob Jennings has during the last two years been in contact both on the phone and in national conferences with other stadium managers across the country who do now have specific experience in running stadiums that serve beer and what I think he has told you is that it is their professional opinion that the serving of beer has not increased their security cost or their security problems, that basically in terms of the clean up problem that you have two factors work. One, people are already bringing in illegal containers and causing part of the problem that you would have anyway, but even more importantly whether you drink soft drinks or drink beer, they tend to off -set each other. There is a trade-off if you wish and the absolute number of containers or empty cups that you end up with is similar. Now, that's simply the industry experience and I think that, that's really what Mr. Jennings is indicating to you. Mrs Gordon: To sum up what you said then, you are saying there is an unknown factor right now and that is whether or not there will be an agreement reached between the chief and the FOP relative to security since the agreement they had did not include beer. Is that what you are telling me? Mr. Grassie: Well, the thing that has been most unknown up to now is whether or not any circumstance is going to change, whether in fact we are going to do anything about beer. But assuming... if we are to assume that in fact, we are going to do something about beer today, then yes, that question would need to be revisited, but that is not unusual in the sense that one of the things the Police Chief has to do all the time is to keep current with a change in circumstance in his work force. So that would simply be one more circumstance that he would be discussing with the FOP. Mrs. Gordon: Would that involve an additional cost factor? Mr. Grassie: Not of necessity. It really depends... Mrs. Gordon: Well, is it possible that it would? Mr. Grassie: Well, I have a little difficulty in answering that kisKI (3 ii question Commissioner, of course, there is always the possibility. Mrs. Gordon: Ok. Mr. Grassie: But I think that it's reasonable to expect that the two parties can come together without causing any significant additional cost Mrs. Gordon: And if they don't what happens then? Mr. Grassie: Well, if in fact... Mrs. Gordon: Wouldn't it be better if this Commission didn't shoot from the hip and knew the answers to the questions before... Ma or Ferre: And stall it again, huh? Mr: Grassie: Commissioner, there is no way of achieving an answer, ii .th ere is no necessity to negotiate the answer. You see, until this Commissinn acts there is no reason for the Police Chief to get into any discussions. Now, we have to have at least one concrete step before we take the other and it seems to me that the first step is with this Commission. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, I fail to see how you could make that statement when you know how much we have tried on numerous occasions to arrive at some kind of an agreement to keep the Dolphins here in Miami and this is justlnother attempt to do that and yet you don't have the basic answer of what it,wii involve with relationship to the security factor. The answer being what will it cost in extra dollars. It amazes me. Mr. Grassie: The answer that we have given you Commissioner three times now in the last ten minutes, is that it is not going to cost any significant additional amount of money. .40 SEP 1 3 1979 Mrs. Gordon: But you don't know. Mr. Grassier. reflects the Mayor Ferrer Mr. Plummer: You don! :know. Now, you don't like _that "answer, but that is the Answer .which ';` experience of theindustry in all the'United-States Chairman, if I may.. r. Ferre? Mayor Ferrer Alright, Mr. Jennings, how niuch does "the security"force at the Orange Bowl cost us ,approximately per. game?. Mr. Plummer: Are`you including both uniformed and non -uniformed? Mayor Ferrer Yes, everything, just the total big sum, big number.' Mr: Jennings: I think I can get in the ball park. When I: say this also, I'm talking about the entire .Police cost. That.: is both traffic and security and my recollection is that it's about six thousand dollars per game for both. There are about, I believe, thirty-five traffic -Police Officers and some where around seventy... Mayor Ferre: Is that the same cost? No, I:don't think the traffic Police Officers are that much` of a... I'm talking about security... Mr. Jennings: There is about seventy security Police Officers inside` the stadium roughly and about thirty-five traffic Police and the total cost is around six thousand. So,... Mayor Ferre: Alright, too? now, is that true for the: University of Miami games', Mr. Jennings: Oh, "no, °.No,,,sir. University of Miami, obviously.,` The : Police co tangent is much :`smaller ;.c Mayor Ferre: I see, so in other.:words, for theremaining;seti :Orange Bowl. Dolphin games you are talking about forty-two thousand dollars :and"then for the other games you might be talking, another ten' or : fifteen thousand -,.maximum.., Would you say that fifty-five thousand. dollars would cover''. the tab "for Police. security between."now and the end of the year' Mr. Jennings: Yes, sir Ithink it should.' Mayor FerreAlright, so then logic would tell you that if it is your professional opinion that we will make in excess of a hundred thousand dollars even if we were to double the Police force, which is absurd we would still be making a profit. So`I would strongly recommend that we stop playing politics in this whole process and we get down and start bouncing around for political expediency and for political reasons and get on with what's good and proper and right for the people of Miami that have been more than patient. And this is a long over due decision. I have voted for this thing on eighteen different occasions. If we had voted two years ago in a proper way we wouldn't have this problem before us and I would respectfully Mr. Chairman, after you make your statements, like to call the question. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, have you considered the increase in the size of the bathrooms? Mr. Mayor and my fellow Commissioners, I also in jest I'm not running for Mayor, I'm just running for the same old little seat that I am privileged to have for ten years. I have consistently as most people are well aware have never changed my vote'. In the same way that the Mayor has vote eighteen times affirmatively, I have voted eighteen time in the negative. Negatively because nothing has come before this table in my estimation in the past which I have felt in my personal opinion and we are each entitled to our owl, that was really fair to the City. I have no problem with Mr. Grassie, I respect him--- not Mr. Grassie, Mr. Robbie. I respect him for being a very astute businessman and he is always there to try to drive the best negotiated bargain he can. And I feel a responsibility to do the same for the taxpayers of this community who I represent. I feel that this which is being proposed here today is fair. I had a big hangup about dropping to the twenty-five percent as most people know, I'm the one who has been holding out for the figure much higher until I went to people in the industry and made inquiry as to that figure of twenty-five percent and it was explained to me that, that gl .41 SEP 91979 figure could not be any higher under the proposal of the system of bringing bottl.s or cans to the stadium, putting it into a paper cup to give to the custumer. The volume that could be attained under the other system could not be attained under this system. As most of you are well aware my big hangup has been not only in the return to the City, but in the installation cost of three hundred thirty thousand dollars of which this City would be required to put up two thirds or two hundred twenty thousand and the concessionaire a hundred ten with a zinger that said if the present concessionaire was not the renewed concessionaire next year, that the City would have to huy his interest out at an additional seventy-five thousand dollars or ma• .ng a City obligation of two hundred ninety-five thousand and I could not under any circumstance go for that. I have always and will continue always to recognize when others may be do not, that there are two concessions. One is the rental of the stadium for the playing of footh111, the other is the concession of food and beverage and that is a seconu .1-1c1 I th.: ik you will find that in a great number of the stadiums across the country you do not find the same owner holding the same concessions. The scoreboard has been eliminated. I have problems with the scoreboard and the way that, that is being proposed. That is not being handled here today. I feel that this as proposed is a good try. We are talking about for approximately one year and there is no question in my mind that before we go possibly to public bidding next year, that we will experience some factors that we quite possibly--- we would like to know about prior to enter into a long term agreement. There might not be any problems, but we will have approximately one year of experience to know that when we get ready to let for a long term basis what those problems are and we can address those in the specs to eliminate them from a long term range. I want to'say in conclusion that I personally will be at that Orange Bowl Mr. Crassie and I want to tell you and if the concessionaire accepts this propc.a1 which is being offered here today, that I for one feel there is a helluva responsibility being placed upon him. That responsibility is twofold the one thing that I have had in my craw and will continue is the danger of selling to minors. I am... I wnnt it expressed in no uncertain terms Mr. Grassie, that if I observe one time and I know it's a tremendous responsibility to place on the vendor, alcoholic beverages being served to minors, I'm going to be back at this table and I want to tell you that Mr. c:rassie. Likewise, there is also the ever present danger of someone being allowed to consume... Mr. Grassie, I want you to hear this without, you know, I don't want any misunderstanding. There !s also the ever present danger of someone being allowed to consume too much alcohol and I want to tell you I'm going to be watching for that, but my hangup is on minors. Mr. Mayor, I'm very happy that after eighteen consecutive votes, consistent votes, that I feel that this which is being proposed is fair to the City and to the concessionaire and because of that I will be voting favorably today for this present agreement. Mr. Fannotto? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Do you wish to be recognized? Mr. Fannotto: Yes, I do. Honorable Chairman and members of the Commission Ernie Fannotto is my name and I'm President of the Taxpayers League of Miami and Dade County. I have heard what you fellows said and what you are trying to do and I hate to be abrupt, but the decision is a irresponsible decision and you are not showing enough respect for the Dolphins. I'm telling you this because the Dolphins are one of the best teams in this league and at twenty-five percent from the Dolphins is a lot more than you are going to get from other teams if you get thirty-seven or forty percent. I think the issue here is-- and I have always been for competitive bidding, but I want to do what's best for our taxpayers, our businessmen to keep this team here. The Dolphins give you millions and millions of dollars of national publicity which alerts the people of Dade County and the State of Florida. You can't deny that. You couldn't buy it for millions and millions of dollars. So what is a little fee adding onto that might let Robbie leave. Now, if Robbie leaves I am going to say that you folk might be held responsible. If you can show enough appreciation to a team that gives you national wide publicity, millions and millions of dollars. City of Miami publicity, Dade County all over the States, what are you thinking about. Now, look what you are doing, you want to give him a one year lease and then you are going to say let's compete to have competitive bidding next year and fight and fight with Robbie. I think Mr. Robbie is just about tired of fighting and he is ready to move. Now, here is what you folk have lost Mr. Commissioner Lacasa, you have lost two hundred seventy thousand dollars last year because you didn't make a deal. You are losing a hundred twenty-five thousand this year, that's .1 1979 gl .42 Mr. M over four... close to four hundred thousand dollars. You could have installed installations there and made two hundred seventy thousand this year, but you are making a hundred... do you call that business? And you say that you staying there and running affairs of the City of Miami in a business like manner. You know what counts? The amount of money that you are going to make out of this concession. And let me tell you if you think that you are going to turn your back and I'm repeating it on millions and millions of dollars of publicity from these Dolphins and cause them to leave, it's an irresponsible decision and I am going to have to hold you folk responsible it you do. I don't think one year is fair. Give this man contract a balance of his year and show appreciation he will say "well, they are coming around alright, I won't leave Dade County", because if they do it's an irresponsible... you have already lost close to four hundred thousand dollars, you can' dispute that. So now you want to turn around and fight again with Mr. Robbie next year and take a chance on losing them. I'm going to have to hold you people responsible if you do and you are not running the affairs anc the monies of the taypayers because you already lost four hundred thousand dollars and now you are going to pour bad judgement on top o other bad judgement next year instead of saying look, let's show respect for this... this is the top team in the country, they will take in more revenue at twenty-five percent, keep them happy, we need them here, you need installation in that Orange Bowl to do two hundred seventy-five thousand, you got to have it. Plummer: Mr. Fannotto, you are repetitious. . Fannotto: I; am repetitious,' .but 'it's` Plummer: If you' have anything further to add we would ask you Mr. so. Mr: Fannotto: Yes. Any lease that isn't'.-for."the continuation of his contract to: me °s: a irresponsible lease and . 1-think Robbie deserves a full Tease" at twenty-five percent. I do think it's a fair amount. Mayor Ferre: Alright, call the question. Thank you, sir. The motion of intent, is it understood, call Mr. Plummer: the roll. ON ROLL CALL:' Mrs. Gordon: I want to say thet I'm very happy that the request that I made to bring this issue back to this table, the leaaership that I have shown in again, and persistently having this back regardless of whether the Mayor expounds on how many times he has voted, he has never been able to bring about any harm in it. So I'm very pleased and very happy that I have been able to take this matter to the table again and that this time at least we are going to be able to say to, Mr. Robbie that we have stopped bickering up here on the City Commission and that we are beginning to act like grown-ups and we are willing to at least let the Dolphins preceed to have the opportunity this year of satisfying the clientele. However, this does not make me happy to the degree that the long range contract is not being discussed because the true issue is the long range contract_. That is the issue that the people of this community wants settled, really that is the issue that this Commission has to again recognize and move forward and get Mr. Robbie and get the Dolphins settled until 1986. But on this issue and for the reasons I have specified, I'll vote "yes". Mr. Plummer: I invoke the rule and the rule being that I am happy to with my fellow Commissioners to make a unanimous vote. I vote "yes". oin THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO.'79-611-R was introduced by Commissioner Ferre and seconded. by Commissioner Lacasa was passed and adopted by the following` vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Lacasa, Vice -Mayor Plummer and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. (LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION NO.'79-624 gl .43 SL ;979 Mayor Ferre: AA4.4h-,,',W,,,t Chairman at this time I would like to move you th as I said prel)10h , the ;thOtion :.hat failed at the last Commission. Meeting- and I woul i.'ike to move,''or reconsideration of that. Mr. Plummer:: A motion of i;econsideration needs Is there' n second? Mrs. Gordon May.I correct... Mr. Plummer,. there is no reconsideration needed because the motion that �f.ailed was an' affirmative motion ` It was not'a motion'` of denial ',Therexore, th re is no motion. '. Ask the you have any ... doubts of mv.: legal.'opinid. . Mr. Plumre ,. Well, I. havia doubts as to Mrs. Gordo.! what motion.we' are talking about Mrs. Gord��:��:< <On, the Mayor... Maurice is talking about the August 28th resolutions4;hich. we h.'ie here in our packet for this afternoon. Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer Mrs. Gordon: Mr, Alvarez Which was denied. That was denied. It didn't pass. So he is not on It was not a motion to deny. the prevailing side and :,cannot =reconsider. You misunderstood me. Mr. Alvarez, Commissioner will you mind restating the question?.-` will 'you' speak to .it please?. Mrs. Gordon: The motion or rather the resolutions that didn't,pass were affirmative to grant. They failed,.there is nothing ;on the records..< I, check with the Clerk on this because the issue that I:thought was,theone'-that Mr. Ferre is misstaken on, that it also needed to be rescinded,` doesn't. need, to be rescinded because the motion was not one to deny, it -was a motion to';' pass and it didn't pass. Mr. Plummer: Rose, excused.me, Mrs. Gordon:• Well; reconsider: to start from stratch now. thisis not to rescind this is to reconsider. There nothing to reconsider. You, just have - Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, the ruling of the Chair is... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, for the purposes of avoiding a squabble, if the Chair will permit me to make a motion, I withdraw the previous motion so you don't have to rule on it. I now would like to make the following motion that the City of Miami Commission in principle accept the Wilson contract... I'm sorry, the Wilson Committee recommendation with the following additional provisos. One, that the percentage be thirty-five percent. I am going to make it different.: Mr. Plummer: You make it whatever you want. Mayor Ferre: Two... starting this year. Two, that a four year escape clause be incorporated. Three, that the City of Miami have the option on whether or not we would relieve the Dolphins of the franchise... now, let me see, the concession agreement should he give us notice of four years. And four, that all .legal matters pending between us be properly settled and five, that the scoreboard agreement and this is where this is different from the previous motion Mr. Plummer, since you will be ruling on it in a moment That the second scoreboard specifically be a part of this contract and that Mr. Robbie come back with a second... be part and parcel of this agreement, come back with a second agreement. I so move. Mr. Plummer: Is there a second? Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor? Mrs. Gordon: We understand what the difference is in this motion of inten from the August 28th, will you be specific. gl A4 S E N 3 1979 Mayor Ferre: Specifically the difference is that in that motion,..the•second: scoreb :rd was on a nebulous basis that the Manager was instructed to::come back if he could with something and this one specifically request that: part' of this agreement include a second scoreboard.. . 0k.Is the four year term in there?: The escape..:. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: Mayor Ferre: there. Mrs.. Gordon Yes ok. You-are"not amending others?. other. Then in.other"words,- the escape. All the other previous provisions that you -voted for are what we have later to discuss 21, 22," 23 is essentially what .you are apropos ng now by a motion of intent " Mayor':`Ferre:'. Mrs. Gordon ... of discussion on affirmative part and with the exception that you are saying no,;possibilities the two scoreboards,' but you wish to -;have that as an of the agreement! Mayor Ferret To change the purpose of the motion itself from what we previously voted upon because technically the chair couldrule that motion, "out of"order since it would be the same as the previous motion":and�: you.:and .I were>not on the prevailing side. So that therefore the motion is different. Mr. Plummer: Is there a second? Mr. Lacasa: would lilte to ask a question. Mr. Plummer.: Wait a: minute now, there is no ,discussion unless you .want a' clarification of the motion. Is ' that what }' su 'are asking? Mr. Lacasa: `:- a clarification of the motion. Mr. Plummer: Proceed. Mr. Lacasa:. Would the motion include negotiation of the investment,required from the.City for the implementation of the system? If this motion: includes a negotiation with Robbie for... concerning the amount of monies that the ,City is require to come up with to iLstall the system, I am willing to second and vote... Mayor Ferre: I accept that as an amendment to the motion. Mrs.: Gordon: I-'m not clear on what Mr. Lacasa wants.: Mayor Ferre:. -What Mr. Lacasa is saying is that the; installation of the system which would require an expenditure of three hundred and some odd thousand dollars':be an open and negotiable ---.an open negotiable item and I accept that as an amendment to... that would:be the sixth amendment and let me add the seventh, that the previous motion,that"passed unanimously be incorporated' into this motion. Mr. Lacasa: Then I second the motion. Mr.`Plummer: Ok. Mrs .,;Gordon: Well, we need to have ^ clarification since the motion that passed unanimously included a twenty-five percent return to the City and this: one you are proposing now has a thirty-five percent return to the City. during the same period of time it becomes ambiguous. Mayor Ferre: No, Mrs. Gordon: it doesn't. .I will... May I ask the attorney to clarify it? Mayor Ferre: No, the maker of the" ,motion will clarify it very specifically. Mr.' Robbie does not have enough time -to. .install a"system between now and the end of the season. Therefore, the twenty-five percent for manual beer remains._. SEP 1� gl 45 The moment that the system is installed, now and I doubt if it could,be installed between now and the end of the season, then the thirty-five percent. provision would go into effect. Mrs. Gordon: Well, that is not what the... I don't believe that its.. clear in your... addressing yourself to these resolutions that are going to be coming before us which are your own wordings according to your own statements that you wanted thirty-five percent'for this year. And the we passed the unanimous motion for twenty-five percent for this year. The subject is muddy. If you wish to clear it, then you need to reword it. Mayor Ferre: Mrs, Gordon, again, as long as the manual system is in affect during this particular season the return for the manual serving of beer to the City will be twenty-five percent, that runs out in July of 1980. -If Mr. Robbie should:happen to install a system pending the agreement that Mr. Lacasa has now:put into the negotiations and should that system be installed before the end of the year, when it becomes functional this year, Mr. Robbie would then pay thirty-five percent, absent that, the thirty-five percent provision would go 'into effect for the first game next year. Mr. Plummer: Motion is understood? Let me just express :^yself of my long standing objection to circumventing of public bidding. I am opposed to it I think this City is entitled to know what is the highest and best offer it can recieve and I am just... I am very much opposed to entering in at this point. As I said on the previous motion, I thought that this motion which I voted favorably for and happily did would give us a trial of one year to see if there were problems and if so would give us the rights, so that when we get ready to give specs on long term agreements. My basic objection is that on a long term agreement, it is my understanding that a thirty-five percent return is not fair to this City when it is serving of the draft beer with a system. I don't know how anybody can expect that this City is entitled to any less than the most recently awarded concession coi_ract in a major professional stadium, which happens to be our Sister City of Tampa which brought back a forty-four percent across the board return not on just beer, but all the way across the board. 0n beer, hot dogs, peanuts, coca colas and everything. The projections which I -have that if we were to receive the difference between that thirty-five percent and the forty-four if we were successful, we would in fact be giving a gift of one million five hundred eighty-three thousand seven hundred thirty-eight dollars as an outright gift. I love Mr. Robbie, but I love my taxpayers and I don t think that's fair. I think we are entitled to know, we might not get that in public bidding, but we are entitled to know what is the best thing that we can get to represent the rights of these people and I am very much opposed to not go into some kind of negotiation to try to get the best deal for this City that we can. And I guess you surmise that I'm going to vote "no". Mrs. Gordon: J. L. Plummer, I want to at least reiterate what I have read in the Dolphin contract that we gave them for the use of the Orange Bowl and that was that they would have the right to negotiate with the City and... Mr. Plummer: Fine, I' got no problem with that. Rose, I got no problem with them negotiating. That is in the contract, I respect that right. We made that, I voted on that contract and as far as I am concerned, just hypothetically, if they came and offered me, me the City, the last best offer that was offered in a professional stadium, I'm willing to negotiate that. I respect that right of the concessionaire, but I think this City is entitled to know. You will recall the motion that passed. The motion said that the present concessionaire had the right within thirty days to match the highest offer. Mrs. Gordon: That was in conflict with... Mr. Plummer: I understand, Rose. Mrs. Gordon: r.. the agreement. Mr. Plummer: I understand that, but I also look... Rose, when I voted for the first motion, ok. I want to tell you that, that vote of mind acknowledge that Mr. Robbie, excuse me, the concessionaire had the executive right until July 1, 1980. I recognize that, we are locked into that and I recognized it, but after July 1, 1980 this City is entitled to try to get it's best return. gl .16 SEP 13 1979 Mrs. Gordon: But J. L., that's what I'm trying to say. It's matter of opinion perhaps, but as I read that contract, I see that we are in a locked position for negotiating with them. Mr. Plummer: Rose, I disagree. It is my. understand in which I'm entitled and will proceed upon, that they have the right to negotiate and right of first refusal, barring that we then are free to do otherwise. Yes, we have got to talk with them, yes, ve have got to negotiate with them andyes, they must refuse. Once that is done and over I will also agree thatwe cannot proffer anything to them and then turn around and do something for less, I agree with, that, ok. Mrs. Gordon: J. L., I know you have considered the .fact that if we lose the Dolphins we won't get perhaps thirty percent from "any `other concessionaire. Mr. Plummer: Rose, I' said before and I will say it again. There.are two separate distinct contracts. One is for the football team, "B"'the second is for concessions and very rare. Mr. Jennings,` you correct me if I'm wrong. Do you find throughout thecountry where one 'individual or company has both? This is not the usual situation. Rose,,God forbid, I don't.want those Dolphins to leave Miami. They were born here in this City like I was and I don't intend to leave because I love this City.. This City has done a lot for me and this City has done a lot for the Miami Dolphins..' You know, the only thing I have heard at this table and I really didn't want to get into this today. You know, is we are doing a disservice... we owe something to the Dolphins. Rose, let me tell you something, the Dolphins owe something to this City. They owe something to this City. Cooperation is a two-way street. Now, all I have ever asked for and will continue to ask for is what I feel is fair. I would not one rinute vote favorably for something that I thought was unfair to them, where I was takin& advantage of them.- And 1 ask the same consideration. That's all I ask. Rev. Gibson: Mr.... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Father. Let me conclude Rose. Mr. Lacasa was not. here and don't know whether the Mayor was here, but you know I'' so well remember the day I got hit with a telegram in which a suit was thrown against this;C:;. and the screaming befor.: that microphone of a certain attorney representing that concessionaire... no, not that concessionaire, the man who was trying to get that concession who later got it through the courts and I remember the editorials screaming and blistering that we were circumventing public bidding. The public had the right to get the best offer and they took us to court,<I will never forget that. And yet we find those same people who took us to court are hack here asking for us to do what they said was in violation of all that was moral and legal. Mrs. Gordon: Well, J. L., but I` do .read -contracts... I know how sensitive you are on this situation, Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, Igot a long memory.; Rose,I respect lyour 'opinion as I respect everyone else and I don't ask anybody to agree with me. Mrs. Gordon: No, no, we are not even 'in an argument, you:, and rl, we are just observing the facts of the case and the case as.I read this contract gives them the negotiating right and since they have ,that right, I respect that right. And I just think that we need to, you know, may be it would have been better if it wasn't included, but it was included whoever drafted it, put it in there. Mr. Plummer: Rose, you have known me for fifteen years, if my City Attorney who renders the legal opinion that I am bound to ,negotiate with him:: and him only, I'm bound. I have yet ever.here in ten Years =to.goagainst the opinion: of the City Attorney. I sometimes didn't like it .and ,personally didn't agree, but if my City Attorney says to me, that I cannot do this this, this and this, I'm going to be bound by it Rose, ok. You all take it from there.. Mrs. ;Gordon: Mr. Alvarez,; are you saying that we cannot proceed on the motion that's before us? Mr. Alvarez: I: "haven 't said anything yet Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: Well, J. L. `Plummer is 'making and you are the one that's here to day. a statement that his City Attorney` gl .17 SEP1919'9 Mr. Plummer: Mr. AlvarL.:, I would only like to interject. My memory serves me that this matter has been rendered in a legal opinion. As I recall that opinion it was three questions, one of them being on point. Whether we were locked dealing in 1980 only with Mr. Robbie or could we deal with outside and as I recall the answer... please, I'm not trying to put words into your mouth. The answer was that per the contract we had to negotiate with him. That's why that thirty days if he matched the highest was placed into that motion. Mayor Ferre: J. L.? Mr. Plummer: Yes? (BACKGROUND COMMENT Mr. Plummer: INAUDIBLE) Maurice,`T'm sorry. Mr. Alvarez: Commissioner, I",could give the opini your recollection would: probably be correct. Mrs. Gordon::,I didn't hear you. Alvarez, on right ';quickand Im sure m sorry, we couldn't,.. Mr. Alvarez: I. don't remember off hand Commissioner, I'm suggesting we will go ahead and'take a look at-'.the.opinion if it's been issued. Mayor Ferre: Well, thisis a motion of intent. and I' would recommend that we proceed and vote on this. And I would call the question at this time. Mr. Plummer:` Ok, call the question. Father you wish to make a comment` please? Mayor Ferre: Well, I withdraw that.= Rev. Gibson: I want you to know that I haven't said anything in this discussion. I was hoping that what we would have done and still I'm hoping, you would let Mr. Robbie and the Dolphins and all of, us sell beer and enjoy it. Now, I thought that a period of time between now and say weeks when we aren't in the midst of our passion perhaps, if I could use that term, that we could come to a more reasonable and sane and sensible position and conclusion. I voted for the motion earlier because I'm hoping and still am hoping that we would weigh what the people have been saying to us right along about the Dolphins and that we could not take advantage of the Dolphins and they will not take advantage of us, but that we will in calm, cooler, friendly enviroment make at decision. A decision which is in the best interest of, I trust all of us. It would have been an easy thing to have included in the first motion the extension of the contract. Note: we got over the first hurdle. Now, I bt 'eve if you got over the first one, you can get over the second one, you can g.c over the third one. For us to carry on the kind of unfavorable discussion we are carrying on now really won't help us. I think that if we, if we would really think about this matter may be the thing to do is put if off or go to'lunch and come back, may be. But the way we are doing now, I just wonder and you raised a legal question that I think ought to be answered. Frankly, whether we call it negotiating or whether we call it bidding doesn't make much difference I don't think, because when you negotiate you have to negotiate from a position of strength. And when you negotiate you are certainly aren't going to negotiate only based on or based primarily on the fact that we have been offered a contract by one individual. I don't think anyone of us here is in the business. Neipher one of us, so what will a•e have to do? I know what I will do. I will ask somebody who is in the business, is this a fair reasonable amount of money? Now, anybody who doesn't do that sitting up here isn't fair to the people and if we are negotiating and negotiating in good faith it seems to me that we will take what they say and come up with a decision. I hope, I hope that we do not just let this thing become an emotional thing. The headlines in the paper. You know, until we got to this discussion the headlines could have read and I trust it will read. "Miami Commissioners vote to sell beer", that would have been positive. I hope it still will be positive and I hope you will let them be positive and not let us get the same kind of a unfavorable reaction we have been getting. I trust, that's all. Mr. Plummer: Any further discussion? Mrs. Gordon: Yes, just a comment that Father Gibson's headline observation gl .18 SE • • might read "Miami. City Commission votes, to keep the Dolphins in M Mr. Plummer: Mayor Jerre: You have no guarantee Call the roll. Mr. Plummer: Any other discussion, call the (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC: RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Motion of intent... there is no... I really was out of line ,to let Mr. Fannotto talk before because this is Committee of the Whole,`if you wish to discussthis item -you may do so in the afternoon when it comes up. as a resolution. Alright, sir? May I personally ask that the motion be reread? Mr. Ongie: The second we passed... do you want me to reread the first motion too? Mr. Plummer: o, sir, I fully; understood which I, voted favorably for Mr. Ongie: Alright. Thesecond motion which would b first one woiild be that , the City of Miami... Mr. Plummer Mr. Ongie Well, that was part. motion that passed. "You said` incorporate the' previous Mayor Ferrel Yes, you got it backwards, it's .not .. we are incorporating'`.i into the other one. It's the other way around isn't? We incorporate the first motion into the second motion. Mr. Ongie: Ok, whatever. Mr. Plummer No, no, excuse me, Mr Ongie, why I'm askingfor it to be, reread: Mr. Ongie: Alright, the rnotion that is on the floor now is that the City o Miami Commission accept the recommendations of the Wilson Committee with the following provisos, that (1) the percentage of beer sales and concession sales be made at the rate of thirty-five percent, (2) that the escape clause be changed to four years, (3) that the City of Miami Commission would retain the option of whether the concession would be cancelled if the Dolphins leave the Orange Bowl, (4) that all legal matters pending be properly settled, (5) _hat the scoreboard agreement with the Miami Dolphins specifically provide for a second scoreboard as part of the contract, (6) that the City of Miami continue negotiations with the... that the matter of the installation of the system in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars continue... Mayor Ferre: No no, no, of the beer dispensing system. Mr. Ongie: Of the beer"dispensing system continue:to be an open and negotiable item. Now, there was other conversation that -explained the difference between-- - Mayor Ferre: Yes, but... excuse me, and (7) that the previous motion having for this season a twenty -give percent return to the' City Factor for manual beer be incorporated into: this' motion. Mr. Ongie: Yes, I have that sir. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, even though I'm:in the negative I would like_to remind you of one addition that you had previously and that was .that if`the football team distinguishing from. theconcession were to exercise it's option of escape, that they'would have to pay us the minimum for the remaining years to 1986. You will recall that was your proposal before and I don't know whether you over looked that this time or not. Mr. Grassier I don't know Commissioner Plummer ,whether you intended your comment exactly the wayyou made it, but'I don't believe that what you said 11 1111111111111111111111111111111 11111111 gl .49 SEP 13 1979 • is in accordance with the provisions ~f the existing agreement..`: Mr. Plummer: What it really, easily says is that if 'he exercises that option"; to escape, that the concession would not be worth anything and"he would "have.. pay us for the remaining years of the minimum is the way I understood' you proposed it before. Mrs. Gordon: On the contrary I think, that the intent was to give t the option of terminating the agreement or not. That was the intent prior action. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Motion of intent is understood, call the question. Mayor Ferre: In voting this nineteenth time Iwant to reiterate that I think it is not important to take Mr. Robbie into consideration. What is important is the people of the City of Miami and the fact that this vote today means' a million two hundred fifty thousand dollars that we will be making if the Dolphins stay thru 1986. Yes, it can be argued that we could have made more but as Father Gibson often points out, we have a... we appointed a very outstanding Committee which recommended this. We have negotiated this in the proper form. I want to think--- I don't know whether it's going to be two or three of my fellow Commissioners for having changed their opinion and their mind on this and for voting in a positive way tosettle this question. I think that it is forward looking and I'm glad that it is a practical approach to a very practical matter and I vote "yes". And by the way, just one last comment, I guess Ferre has not flip his lid. Mrs. Gordon: Once again, I want to simply reiterate that I'm very pleased that through my persistence bringing this matter back today, that we have stepped forward in a very positive way to keep the Dolphins in Miami and that is uppermost in my mind big enough to recognize that sometimes changing ones mind is a sign of adulthood and I'm an adult and therefore, I make no apologies for changing mind for the benifit of the citizens of this community. And therefore, I will votL "yes". Mr. Plummer: Noone has questioned my adulthood, so I won't address that problem. I love the Dolphins, I' love any City. I don't feel that I can vote favorably, (1) to circumvent competitive bidding, (2) to give an outright gift of subsidy of a million and a half dollars at a time that, that is crucially needed by this City. I'm just very, very sorry that I can't vote for it, but I feel as I said before, for a deal for a negotiated contract has to be fair to both sides. I feel that this which is being proposed is a million and a half dollars unfair to the people of this community who own that stadium and I must vote "no". THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO. 79-611..8 was introduced by Commissioner Ferre and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Plummer. ABSENT: None. (LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION NO. 79-624 ) Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are going to take a break in a moment, but;. Elizabeth"Virrick, I promised her I would take her°up first thing , S walked in, in the middle of this discussion. SEP 13 1979 20. PERSONAL APPEARANCE - ELIZABETH VIRRICK REGARDING CITY BOXING PROGRA?t Mayor Ferre: And I apologize Elizabeth for the three hour wait. She hasn't been feeling well so I want to impose on you for a few minutes. Elizabeth I recognize you. And after that we will take a five minute break. Elizabeth Virrick? Ms. Virrick: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Yes, it is. Ms. Virrick: As you all know Ithink, the boxing program which has been going on for ten years and the Golden Gloves Franchise annual tournament for seven years as been in a great deal of difficulty and is having to be restructured right away because of many things that have happened. And... in other to make a long story short, because I know you want to take a break, we have put in an application for a grant which we have reason to believe will be granted for a store front training place up in the Grove area so that the young men won't have to come so far for their training. And this will feed more boxers into the Wednesday night fights. We... as you know, Dick Lee ha retired from the City and we need to have some extra personnel to carry on the program properly in the way we have envisioned. It will require the salary of a person to take entire charge of the tickets and the fiscal end of it and as you know Dick Lee has taken over the Golden Gloves Franchise We came to the decision of relinquishing it by a serious thought and a great deal of soul searching and with regret, but for absolutely sound and valid reasons which I think you don't have time to listen to up here now. Dick 'Lee will run the Golden Gloves Tournament annually. He is in the process of forming a non profit corporation for that purpose because the franchist.: has to be in the hands of a non-profit corporation. We are going to build up the Wednesday night fight and we need one person for the tickets and the fiscal end of it, our staff is stretched too tight to do all this we have a grant in operation now which we thank will be given to us for that salary.' But we are asking the City if they will please grant' Coconut Grove Cares,'` the salary of a person who knows boxing, can conduct the matches, do the publicity for it and help build it up and I know that this cannot come out of the budget as I have been told very emphatically, of the department of Leisure Services because they are having to cut down. And that's why I have, come very unorthodoxly I guess to you to ask you for this. Mayor Ferre: Elizabeth let me, let me just, if I may; just say that, you know, I have been after you to do this for the last two years, as you know we have talked about it many times and I don't care whether it's that fellow pappy or whatever his name is or any of these olympic quality type coaches. But we really need to have a nationally, recognized person who is knowledgeable in the boxing field. Unless we do it that way, unless we go out for the quality type of program and it's been long my opinion that we ought to go, we ought to stop the boxing program and go to basketball or to swimming or something else where we can get these kids into other programs where they can excel. Now, I'm not for that. I would much prefer as you and I have talked about in the past that we really try to upgrade, I mean to nationally recognized standards, the program and I am totally in support. I do think however, that, that kind of a person should really work through Al Howards department. And I think that if u:• are going to do that and I am again, for it, I think he should be a City employee selected with your concurrence. I wouldn't want anybody that you don't agree to, but I think he,really should be under Mr. Howards supervision. Ms. Virrick: Mayor Ferre, let me interject something here. A long time ago when this thing started Mel Reese was the City Manager and he made a strong line of demarcation between the,training down there during the day and the Wednesday night fights, because that building was given to the City of Miami as you may remember by the Federal Government under the legacy of parks with the understanding that it could not have money raising events in the building unless the money went back in the community which it does in our case, every 11 II III 1111 III1•111m ■.I■ I 1 n• gl 1 SE i 2 1979 bit of it goes back... Mayor Ferre:, Elizabeth, we. are... Ms. Virrick: Now, let me finish Mayor Ferre: We are going to move the Golden Gloves and the Wednesday night fights hopefully, if we get the bleachers and we are working on trying to find the money. The bleachers as you know will cost three hundred fifty thousand dollars for this building here and if we can... Ms. Virrick: In what building? Mayor Ferre: In the auditorium here. Ms. Virrick:; Well, that's where we held the tournament last Spring. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but•:I'm talking about the Wednesday night fights now. So in other words... Ms. Virrick: We don't need as big a building as that, unless we increase it which of course, I hope we can do. But what I was going to say about it's being under Mr. Howard, that's perfectly alright except for this that Mr. Howard's department... the City is already co -sponsored with Coconut Grove Care. The only reason Coconut Grove Care has to stay in it is because, well first of all it wants to and because it's a non-profit tax exempted corporation. But you don't need to put up any arguements to me about the value of boxing because I have seen some of these young men that are in pretty bad shape and headed for bad things solemn, hard nosed and a few weeks later they come out with an... that even look different, with an entirely different attitude. They learn somethings in.boxin that I don't think the general public realizes. They learn the thing that is hardest for all of us to learn, which is to lose gracefully and try again. They learn a lot of things. This program, I was told by someone who purported to know just last...at our last Wednesday night boxing match that he feels and he knows evidentally what he is talking about, that this program has reduced crime in this area by forty percent. Mayor Ferre: I- would accept that. Ms. Virrick: And it can do much more if we have someone of stature,that you mentioned,helping with the boxing end of it. Coconut Grove Cares will always be glad to do the part that it has always done and that lately the Wednesday night fights haw been much more successful because we have changed some of the system down there which you are not interested in knowing about,I'm sure. Mayor Ferre: If we do it, we have to do it in a quality way and that's what I have been after. And 1 think really... my only point is "yes" I'm for it, "yes" it should be quality and "yes" it should be under the City of Miami's Leisure Department. That's all. take it under his budget I'm told. That's why.. s for the Commission to decide. to you to ask you if you... Mayor Ferre: I'm"glad you did and we are going solve the problem hopefully, I'm only speaking as one voice here, but the rest of the Commission can express themselves:: I think that if we are going to have a boxing program, we are going to have a good boxing program and that requires quality coaching. Ms. Virrick: Well, mayor Ferre: Yes, it will. Ms. does that require action by the Commission for that expense? will -they please say "y Mayor Ferre: Well, 1 can only speak for myself. Mrs. Gordon: I believe this is an unscheduled item,I would like more information furnished to me and schedule it for discussion at the next meeting and let's take it up in a proper manner and we will make a proper decision, I'm sure. gi .32 Ms. Virrick: Rose, here is the situation, he recesses the boxing during September every year. First of all because the place is so hot, it'sso rainy it's not good attendance, having everybody connected with it takes a vacation. We have to have this restructured by the 1st of October, that's why there is urgency. Now, whatever you want to know, I can tell you during your lunch hour or whatever if you... Mrs. Gordon: Well, Eli"abeth as much as I respect you and have always looked up to you as a person that I would like to be like, hope that.I can live as long and do as much as you have dthatne for have formmyoutyasbut CitynCommissi�ner with ail that deep respect and admiration I cannot make decisions without proper information of all kinds being supplied to me, including budget items relating to the subject. So we are going to meet before October 1st and we can make a decision in ample time I'm sure." Ms. Virrick: Well, now will you tell me please, how you want. delivered to you because it is not the kind of information... Mrs. Gordon: I: am not going to set the peramaters. The Manager will, he wil set it up with you and supply it to us. Ms. Virrick: Between now and... Mrs. Gordon: much longer, Ms. Mr. Ms. Mrs. Mayor Ferre: Alright, any further comments from any other members of the Commission? Mr. Plummer: Have faith, Elizabeth. this information Virrick:, Plummer: Virrick;_ Gordon: I assure you that we can.. will not be able to.procrastinate.. you won't; let us. When s the next Commission Meeting? 27th.. 27th? e_ s . 21. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE WITH ORANGE BOWL COMMITTEE TO ACQUIRE AUXILIARY SOUND SYSTEM FOR USE AT ORANGE BOWL EVENTS Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I meant to bring up an item before... not on you Elizabeth on something else we had previously... Mayor Ferre: Well, Elizabeth can go home. Thank you, very much Mrs. Virrick. Mr. Plummer I would like to make a motion at this time contrary to my comments before. Mr. Mayor, I would like to offer a motion at this time that the Manager be instructed to negotiate with the Orange Bowl Committee to acquire immediately that sound system which they have and only use at the Orange Bowl game, which is a first class addition and supplement to our system, that they acquire that for the next home game of the Dolphins either on a basis of purchase, lease, or inkind. I offer that in the form of a motion. Mrs. Cordon: Second. Mr. Plummer: We all knowthe system is beautiful at Orange Bowl game I think we should have that for every game. Mrs. Gordon: a good idea. Mr. Plummer: I offer that in the form of a motion, Mr. Mayor. gl .33 Mayor Ferre:.. Alright, there is, a motion and a second, further discussion, call the roll.', please The following motion was introduced by'Commissioner.Plumtner moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 79-612 A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE ORANGE BOWL COMMITTEE TO ACQUIRE IMMEDIATELY THE SUPPLEMENTARY SOUND SYSTEM USED IN THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM SO THAT THE SYSTEM CAN BE USED FOR ALL ORANGE BOWL EVENTS; STIPULATING THAT THE AFORESAID SYSTEM WILL BE INSTALLED IN TIME FOR THE FIRST MIAMI DOLPHINS' GAME AND THAT THE ACQUISITION BE DONE ON THE BASIS OF EITHER PURCHASE, LEASE OR In -KIND. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the moti.n was passed and adopted by the following vote - Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre AYES: NOES: None. Mayor that? AT 12:15 THE COMMISSION TOOK A BRIEF RECESS AND RECONVENED AT 12:40 WITH ALL MEMBERS FOUND TO BE PRESENT. Alright, ..let's It was not there, I asked.. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Commissioner Lacasa -is recognized. Mr. Lacasa: Ok, there is a question that hasse enrero.brought upibefore eatowthe attention of the City Commission and we ant to discuss briefly the question of the school buses. The transportation for school children with these private buses. You might remember that there has been several attempts to have the City Commission to.regulate the question of the buses :hat transport children to schools-- these buses that are being run by private individuals. So this gentleman here wants to make a brief presentation about it. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Lopez? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC ;RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Ok. We have several'. Mrs. Gordon: I just... I'm not objecting to your coming to the microphone:, I just want to know Mr. Mayor, why the regular agenda is; not being followed.., when people are sitting here waiting for matters that are on the regular agenda since early this morning. That's the only question I have. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, I extended to Commissioner Lacasa the same courtesy I always extend to you when youwish to be heard on an item, that comes up out of. sequence. Now, if you wish not to hear this gentleman, then I'have no objections. If that's your will, then say so. Mrs. Gordon: It's not a matter of not hearing the gentleman, the gentleman is a gentleman, but I feel the other gentlemen and ladies also have scheduled gl .34 SEP131979 items and you know, it just doesn t.. ,I don't;understand: .. you know; •if they dont object, the people that are sitting a.i1 waiting for the past four hours, ok: Mayor.Ferre: Mrs. .Gordon: Mr,. Fi ne, you have been :Waiting •quiet •. some: have.an ob•jection Mr•. Worsham? You want: to wa•it a little extra -dine, ,that'• s ok with-: me.. .55 SEP131979 22. DISCUSSIOT; OF FINANCIAL PLANS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER. Mayor Ferre: Take up item D, which is discussion of financial plan for the Convention Center, D and E. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, and members of the City Commission, this brings to your agenda a very important project for the City, the Conference Center, downtown. As you know, it is a complex of six different items on your agenda and I would like if I could, to mention those now and then if we could take them in order, there is sore importance about the order because of the legal requirements to do things that way. But we will be talking about items D, E, 18, 7, 17, and 19 on your agenda, and I will bring each one of those up in that order... Mayor Ferre: Repeat that again, D, E, 18... Mr. Grassie: D, E, 18, 7, 17, and 19. Mayor Ferre: 17, and 19. A11 right, proceed. Mr. Grassie: I would like to start by asking Mr. Ernesto Pena, who is the presentative of Smith, Barney, the City's underwriters for this project, to review with you briefly the financial plan which they have developed. Mr. Pena arrived in town last night with this plan and he is bringing it with him. It was distributed to you this morning, but I know that you have not had a chance to look at it fully, so I would like for him to go through it in some detail. Mr. Pena: Do they have copies of this? Mr. Grassie: Yes. Mr. Pena: Ok, members of the Commission, Mr. Mayor, I would like to thank you for giving me the opportunity to discuss these items with you. I would like to, briefly, call your attention to this memorandum dated September 13, that talks about our preliminary proposal on how the City of Miami will finance its portion of this Convention Center/Hoel Complex. We had two basic objectives in discussions with the City Manager and the Bond Counsel as to what the City wanted to achieve. One was, of course, to minimize the interest cost that would be placed on the bonds that are to be sold to finance the construction of the Convention Center. The second one, was to minimize the need for the City to make any more additional contributions in the way of cash. from its own General Funds, or whatever funds they had available to it, towards this project. The structure of the financing will be based primarily, on the expectation of cash flow from this project. There are three basic sources of revenue. The rent to be paid by the develops.- of the hotel, the revenue from the garage, and the revenues from the Convention Center itself, and those will dictate how the bond issue will be structured Vis-a-vis, the size of it, how much can be borrowed, it is just like haw much you can afford. Secondly, it is how you will pay it back or how quickly you will pay it back. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, why would you exclude, even though I voted in the' negative, the World Trade Center which is a source of revenue of the project. Why would you exclude that. Mr. Pena: There are...if you will bear with me, I'll address that poi Mr Plummer I'm sorry. Mr. Pena: The next item of...on the sttucturing,•was the need to incorporate not only the revenues to be generated by these three components of the development, but also the cash made available that was to be paid both by the ''-•-•-toper at the end of construction and also payment to be made by •56 ',SEP 1 3 1979 the University of Miami for its share of the costs and the space. The other element of the structure was to incorporate whatever contributions that the City was going to make, would be made at the beginning of the financing, so that the City would know how much money it was going to put now and not have to contend with the, or not, hopefully not have to contend with the possiblity of putting up more money, later on during the life of the financing. So, the bond issue that we are proposing to develop is a 35 year revenue bond which will offer as security the revenues to be generated from the project, the pledge that the City will maintain the rates on the charges and fees on the gara:3e and the convention center at the maximum possible in order to meet the costs of operating and paying debts service. Secondly, a pledge on the part of the City, that in the event that revenue expectations do not materialize according to projections, that it will make additional contributions in later years from revenues other than ad valorem tax receipts. Thirdly, there would be reserves created within this structure to insure or rather to mitigate the possibility that the City will have to make any additional contributions in later years. And that once these reserves funds are created at certain levels then any excess revenues to be derived from this complex would then go back to the City for its use in any other legal, lawful way. It is my wish to di:.pose of those funds. I have also developed two scenerios. The first scenerio would be that of just the three components, the hotel, convention center, and the garage. And the second scenerio is four components which includes the World Trade Center options. If I can draw your attention to the third page of this outline, you will see what assumptions we used in construction of the financing and you will pee the distribution of funds that are being used on the part of the bond issue and also what we see today as the City's contribution towards this effort. In the first scenerio, we have concluded.that Mayor Ferrer Mrs. Gordon,' I think:thi.s is important... Mrs.` `Gordon: I'm sorry. Mr. Pena: If you will look on that third page you will see that in the first scenerio which does not include the World Trade Center, we have conservatively estimated that the City will have to contribute 61 million dollars at the beginning of the financing. In the second scenerio, which includes the World Trade Center as additional revenue the City's contribution would be 4 million dollars. These numbers are preliminary. They are considered to be conservative, but it is quite conceivable that we will end up here two to three months from now when we hope to do the financing. Mayor Ferre: All right, any questions? All right, we are now on item C which is the first, I'm sorry item D. Are there any questions as to the presentation. I don't think...this is only a discussion of the financial plan from the viewpoint of the underwriters. Mr. Grassie: That is correct, Mr. Mayor, It is a financial plan which would be used in the validation process, insofar, as you have to refer to something, but aside from that it is simply for the information of the City Commission at this stage. Mayor Ferre: We understand. Mr. Worsham, on the record, if you would, you and your at,.prney have gone through this and I assume that you have signed off and we'll get to that in a little while. But, just for the record, while the underwriter... Unidentified Speaker: There really isn't, as far as the plan is concerned, I think, what is incorporated in hereis what is to be signed today on the lease agreement. But beyond that, it really is a separate financial package. Mayor Ferre: I realize that There is no question about it, but I want to make sure that on the record, that our neighbor, in the separate financial package concurs with what the City is doing. Mr. Worsham: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, issioners, I'm Earl Worsham. The answer is affirmative, yes, I do concur. In that regard I have executed the new lease and agreement for your consideration and execution which will be the basis of which, the basis of the validation procedure for the bond .57 SE P 1 3 1919 issue. And the lease/.;..g�eement contains the provisions that produce the revenue. Mayor Ferre: We'll get into that in a for the record, this is something that a while now, and as to the legality of want to add to this? little while. Mr. Guandolo, I guess you have been working with for quite it, and...do you have anything you Mr. GUandolo: There is one possibility that has not...the study of which has not been completed. The data is being assembled now, and is to be turned over to our tax attorneys. And that, the result of that, could conceivably increase the contribution of the City. I just want to warn you, that there is a possibility but I'm not asserting that to be a far: Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Gunderson, as the City's financial officer, you have been involved in this process, I would imagine. Mr. Gunderson: Mayor 'erre: Well,who has beeninvolved non -peripherally? Mr. Grassie: Vince Griitm is the project director out of iriy office. Connolly, of course, is immediately in charge of the; project, and I.I been, personally, quite involved. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grimm, on the record, you have gone over this}natter an you're satisfied that this is proper and that you ;think that this is'in•1 best interest of the i Mr. Grimm: Yes, sir. Absolutely. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: I think it is the best financiah plan that we can develop, and it is a good one, Mr. Mayon Mayor Ferre: Any questions? Then we move on to the next item which is what? Mr. Grassie. As I recall, you said that we would then from D go to E. Mr. Grassie: That is correct. Manor Ferre: Is there an *thin•... 22-"A" Discussion of revised lease agreement CONVENTION CENTER Mr. Grassie: You have, two weeks ago, received a draft of the proposea revised lease agreement with the developer. Since then, it has been reviewed by the University of Miami, and the University has suggested some very minor changes and those changes have been incorporated in the last few days. The document has now been signed by Mr. Worsham and he is here to briefly comment on that, simply to indicate to you his... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, on the record, has the press had copies of this document for more than a day? Mr. Grassie: The press has had the document that you had two weeks ago, also two weeks ago. They have not received the very minor changes that the University has made because we did not receive them until yesterday, late. Mayor Ferre: I haven't seen too mach coverage on this, and I just don't want later on, for same of our friendly critics, one of who is in Paris, but will be caning back very shortly from his vacation, to say that we did not give this proper ventilation and that the public did not have the proper opportunity to have a look. The fact that he took his vacation doesn't mean that the City comes to a dead halt. But I think, it is important that we say on the record, we say that everybody has had plenty of opportunity to comment and look at it and what have you. .58 SEP 1 3 1970 Mr. Grassier;' Mayor Ferre: That is the ca All right... Mr. Mayor. Mr.. Gordon: What are the minor changes between this one and the previous? Mr. Grassie: We can ask Jim Connolly to try to summarize those. Many of them are basically clerical but we'll try and highlight the ones that you might think are more important. Mayor Ferre: These are the University of Miami' I take. Is that correct. s suggested changes,; Mr.'Connolly: Yes, sir. All right, why don't you go over thei Mayor Ferre: Mr. Connolly,: There are minor typographical changes on pages 3, which is just a missing of the word of and the year on a date. University's changes are on pages 39, 40, and 61. • Mayor Ferre: You are goingtoo fast. specifically. Mr. Connolly: Page;30 Mayor Ferre: Yes Mrs. Gordon: 39? Mayor Ferre: 39, 9. an e You'd better go over each one Mr. Connolly: This covers insurance and indemnification. 'The...for some reason it originally stated the City shall instead of the City and/or the University. The same thing is true in four places on page 39, and two place on page 40. Mayor Ferre: Go ahead. Mr. Connolly: On page 61, originally there was approval of the University's agreement by the developer. The bond counsel says the City should not extend approval rights to anybody but itself, so that was changed to be covers the agreements with the University of both the City and the developer. Mayor Ferre: Are you talking about the changes in paragraph 20.16. O.k. On page 61. Mr. Connolly: Yes. Whatthat says basically, is that we will not make any changes in our am commitments without the full knowledge and review' of the third party. That is all that changes. Mayor Ferre: O.k. Next change. Mr. Connolly: And the final change, is that in paragraph 20.20, the date of effectiveness of the lease, there was the possiblity of a deemed termination of the lease if we did not hold to a sure and certain date of the court validation. Since court validation is up to the whim of the judge of the Supreme Court, we changed that to dates mutually agreeable to both parties. Those are all the changes Mayor Ferre: All right, any further changes? Mr. Connolly: Mayor Ferre: If not, is there a motion on resolution, item:18? Father Gibson: Nbve.. Mayor Ferre: Nbved by Father Gibson. Is there a,seoond? Is there a ist .59 SEP 1 3 1979 Mr. Lacasa: Second. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call. the roll on iten 18' WHEREUPON THE ABOVE CITED"MOTIONDULY INTRODUCED BY COMMISSION (REV.) GIBSON SECONDED BY COMMISSION LACASA, WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson' Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.* Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. (SEE LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION 79-616) Mr. Plummer: Well, I have to ask the question. This...it says auttorizinc the City Manager to sign and amended lease agreement between the City of Miami and Miami Center Associates Limited. Mayor Ferre: As presented two weeks ago, and as amended just now. Mr. Plummer: Well Mr. Mayor, I want to tell you that I'm not prepared to vote, and I'll tell you why. Mr. Candolo raised the question, and I don't really see, how anybody can vote on this until that question is answered. I, for one, would not be willing to write a blank check, and that is the statement of Mr. Guandolo, that there is a possiblity, and I recognized what he said, that the figures that are not yet presented to us could conceivably draw more of a contribution to the City. What is that more possibility? I don't know. I have got this document here in front of me that I have not even read, that's one problem. m.But the ne says second problem, Mr. Mayor, is I cannot vote on something is that possibility that the City's contribution is going to be more, without telling me how much more could be, and he can't answer it. Mayor Ferre: The second problem you have is a valid problem and I recognize it. The first problem, with all due respect to you, after you have had for two weeks is not acceptable. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, it is not acceptable to you and I accept tha Mr.;Plummer: This Ccvnission on its individual votes will decide whet or not, it is acceptable to then.' Mayor Ferre: J. L., I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm just saying that I know' you have been through very difficult times and I know all of the problems you've had, but nevertheless, you Mr. Plummer: I am prepared to vote, Mr. Mayor, on that document as it relates to the changes. I have no problem with that. But that financial study which Mr. Guandolo tells me is not yet completed, which is really the answer and an integral part of this, I cannot vote on this document until those answers are forthcaning. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Guandolo, when will it be available? ist "SEP 1 3 197A 1 Mr. Plummer: Nawi wait a minuteRose, please. Mr. Mayor, and Mr. Manager, or Mr. Attorney, tell me. If in fact, this is first reading and there has to be a second reading, I can accept and vote for this and before...with the understanding that before the second vote... excuse the interruption, it is a resolution. Mayor Ferre: J. L. Mr. Grassie: This is a resolution,' this is the only vote Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: It doesn't need a second reading. Lets get an answer from Mr.Guandolo and then we ' l l see where we are. Mr.`Guandoio: I think, I think it should be borne in mind that the City can only be cormtited to the extent that the City agrees to an additional bonmitment. It is possible that the problem I am talking about can be resolved without any necessity of the City's putting up any additional money. There may be changes made in the arrangements with respect to the construction of various facilities which will meet the tax problem th..t we have. But, it isn't that serious. Mayor Ferre: Mr.Guandolo, excuse me, you are completely missing the point. The fact is, that should there be a change, the City of Miami Commission would have to accept it. If it did not accept it, then this will contract, if it depended on that, would be invalid. Is that correct? 'lnless we could live with.,. Mr. Guandolo:`Well, I assume,` that at least with respect to that, depends on how important that is, you see... Mayor Ferre: Well, again, that s a value judgment that this Commission has to make. The point I am trying to make to you is, you have put up a warning signal. You said, this could happen, and I want to go on rec,>rd saying that this could happen. If in deed, that does happen, this Commission, if we vote today, on this document, is not legally bound to accept that. And, and therefore, what I am saying is, I recommend that we vote on this document should that condition arise, obviously this Commission will have to face it and vote for or against it. If this Commission votes against that issue when it arises, then, as far as I am concerned you have to live with this. Now, is that wrong Marty, I see you shaking your head? Mr. Fine: Mr. Mayor, I think you have described it exactly as it is. Never mind... (INAUDIBLE) mayor Ferre: 0.k. Well, ,I. you know, you were shaking thought were saying no I was wrong. For the record, you said I was right, Mr. Plummer: Mr.Guandolo, Mr.Guandolo, my understanding at the present time there is no binding final document. Mr.Guandolo: Let me say this, that this financial plan that has been presented to ..-Du is the best thinking of Smith, Barney as of this date. By the time the bonds are sold, they may have to cane up with an entirely different scenerio. Mayor Ferre: At which time we will vote on the entire different scenerio. Mr.Guandolo: You will vote on it. This is not binding on you. merely informative, for your purpose. Mr. Plummer: Mr.Guandolo, once again, Mr.Guandolo, at this present time there is no final agreerr nt signed. Is that oorrect? Mr.Guandolo: No, no. There is a final lease, an agreement for development. Mayor Ferre: And we are voting, we are right back in the middle, J. L., of voting on the document. Lease and agreement for development between the City of Miami and Miami Center Associates. That is what we are voting on. This is a final docun ent we are voting on. 51 SEP , 3 Mr. Guandolo: But you are not voting on approving the financial plan at this tine. Mr, Planner: That's my concern, sir. What potential liability, Mrs. Gordon: Ask the attorney, our attorney, J.L. Mr Plummer Can I finish... Mrs. Gordon: Yes. Mrs. Gordon: What potential liability, if we sign this document today, a problem arises and this Commission did not vote favorably for that condition which arises. What potential liability does the City create? Mr, Grassie: Let me answer... Mr, Plummer: You are not...Mr. Grassie, I love you, but you are not an attorney, and when it comes to that, I wantto hear from learned bond council '..no is an attorney. Mr. Guandolo: Let me...let.me tell you thi s .with respect. Mr Grassie: But you are asking a question Commissioner, which suggest to you, is not entirely a'legal ;'question. `' Mr. Plummer: And I will ` appreciate you comments after . the attorneys have addressed the problem This is a legal question, and that is why we hire this learned t :i from New York'at a very favorable compensation: Mr, Guandolo: The lease and agreement, insofar, as the City is concerned.< has enough provisions in there which would clearly indicate that the City will n•.:t be able to fulfill its obligations under that lease and agreement until it sells its revenue bonds — Mr. Plummer: Fine, that's all ':. wanted to hear, sir. Mr. Guandolo: And that, and that is going to take a long time. ** Mr. Plummer: Thank you, that's all 7 wanted to hear. You've made it clear. I vote yes. • let me 22 J tISCUSSIO" OF VPLILATIO" OF REVENUE BOPS CO;.'VFIr'I07'' CEO I; & PPRKING GAPAGE AUTHORIZE COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF CONVENTION CENTER. (Ordinance given a First Reading at this point. Read a second Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on the next item, which is item number 7. Whici is authorizing the completion of construction of a convention center subject to the vali...J.L., subject to validation of convention center and parking garage revenue bonds. All right, is there any discussion needed on this Mr. Manager? Mr. Grassie: I don't believe so... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Guandolo, you wanted to add something. Mr. Guandolo: The document before you, which is the bond ordinance,; the trust identure... Mayor Ferre: The trust what? Mr. Guandolo: The t-ust`identure,that 'is this big document here, which are to secure the bonds. Mayor Ferre: 'denture, yes, o.k. Mr. Guandolo: Both provide for the issuance of 60 million dollars of bonds. There is a provision in here, to the effect, and it begins...it is on page 5 of the bond resolution. The last paragraph. It states that in the event the air space over the parking garage shall not be leased, sold, or otherwise disposed of by the City to a developer or developers for the VP 1 3 1S7 ist construction of a commercial or other structure. The maximum amount of bonds authorized to be ise:ued under this section shall be reduced by the total principle amount of 10 million dollars. Being equivalent to the estimated oust of expanding the parking garage to provide additional parking. spaces, presently estimated to be 5 hundred additional parking spaces, and making such structural and other changes un the parking garage necessary to effectually utilization of the air space over the parking garage, for such commercial or other structure. So that what you are authorizing today, are 60 million dollars of bonds to build the expanded parking garage as well as the convention venter. Mayor Ferre: All right, further questions on item number 7? If not, is there motion. Mr. Mayor Ferre: Mr. ,;Grassier which -is -the Mayor Ferre: Mr. LaCasa: Mr. Plummer: Unidentified we are on item 7. Is that correct? I'. believe you voted 18 and you were trust indenture authorization. there a motion on item 7. I move it. I -second. Sneaker: Mr. Mayor... Yes, I realize that, but I'haveto ge Unidentified Speaker: mole meeting. Mrs. Gordon: That's right. Mayor Ferre: Yes, all right, we are now on a motion and a second. This is a matter of intent and we have to vote upon it formally this afternoon. Mr. Martin Fine: Mr. Mayor, for the reoord, my name is Martin Fine, I represent the developer. I just wanted to ask about the timetable. Mr. Worsham has to catch a plane later on this afternoon to make an important trip and there is a lot oz other work the bond counsel and others have to do, when can this, may I ask, be formally voted on? Mayor Ferre: 3:30. I think he has a technical point. Mt. Fine: Isn't there a way to do it now, and... Mayor Ferre: We are going to vote it as a matter of intent. Well, unless the City Attorney rules otherwise, I see, I frankly don't have any problem with voting it..on it right now and reaffirming it if somebody has a problem this afternoon. We'11 the... Mrs. Gordon: You may have people, Mr. Mayor, who come here to speak to this, you may not, but, you know. Mr. Fine: You know, one of the things that happens, frankly, it is very. difficult to sit here all day and wait, I don't want any preferential treatment, but you have a budget hearing at 3:30, if nothing else, could ught we were in the Committee of the all .63 S E P 1 3 1979 you vote on whatever you are going to do today, and take it up at 3:30 before your budget hearing? Mayor Ferre: Yes, yeS. Mr. Alvarez, we need a -legal ruling; as to whether or not we can properly Vote on this ordinance at this time.. Alvarez. Mr. Grassie: Wouldn't 1 te same rule that the Chair announced earlier, Mr. Plummer prevailed, which is that you can vote on these resolutions out of order of your agenda. But in fact, if any member of the audience or any member of the City Commission wants them reconsidered, that you would reconsider them? Mayor Ferre: I'm going to accept that. The Clair is willing to acce but I want the City Attorney's ruling on it. Unidentified Speaker: Mt. Ferre, can,I just say something? and I'll recognize you in a sewn , Mayor Ferre: No you may not Yet, go ahead. Mr. Alvarez: I think it would be proper for the. Commission to take a vote nag with the caveat that, if a member of the Cc[nnission wishes to.. reopen it at 3:30 it would be reopen Mayor Ferre: All right. Unidentified Speaker: I'd just like to point out that • Mayor Ferre: Your name and address for the record.: Unidentified Speaker:Well, I don't kncxa that there is any record, I Sus want to say that your liability. Mayor Ferrer Your name and address for the record Mr. Ongie: Identify yourself if you want'the minutes. :Identify yourself name and address. Unidentified Speaker: 't understand this requirement. Mayor Ferre: We need you name and address don't want to identify yourself, the%Chair I don Unidentified: Oh, I'll identify myself to address.Please? first item,`, rt tha for the record. Now it you will not recognize You.,,.' be recognized as Joel Jaffer. Mayor Ferre: And your, Mr. Jaffer: I don't see the:necessity of'that "requirement Mayor Ferre: The Chair does not reaognize"you, Mr. Jaffer identify yourself, sir. It is:a:rule for everybody. Mr. Jaffer.: I identified myself sir. Mr. Mayor unless you Mayor Ferre: We need your address,sir Mr. Jaffee Well, if you want to deny me grounds to speak on that reason, thats fine with me. Mayor Ferrer Well, it is just a standard rule that this Commission has and all you have to do is say your name and give us your address and then I'll recognize you. • Mrs. Gordon: In all fairness, Mr. Ferre, I haven't heard you ask evexybodS that came to the microphone for their address. Mayor Ferre: Everybody that come to the... Mrs. Gordon: No, you didn't. .st :)4 SEP 13 197te Mayor Mayor Ferre: If you d11 look at the sign there. M. Clerk, would you read the sign that's there on that little... Mr. Ongi.e: It says please state your name and address each time you speak. Mrs. C: ion: I, my statement was that you have not asked everyone who has cane here to state their address. Mayor Farre: I... Mrs. Gordon:" Today, and the records would reflect that. Mayor Ferre: I tell you Mrs. Gordon, rmerybody who cares before these rni.cL-ophones does that. Mrs. Gordon: No, no, everyone has not Mayor Ferre: Further discussion. Mrs. 'Gordon: I don't think that it is fair to discriminate aga.....nst an particular individual for any "particular reason. Mayor Ferre: In the future, I will be very, very careful and sure that every speaker follaqs the standard rule. I don't see what is the "problem identifying Mrs. Gordon: Well, let. Mr. Jaffer speak. Mayor Ferre: Fine, Mr. Jaffer... Mrs. Gordon:If he doesn't want to give you his a dre , • Mayor Ferre: We want you name and -address, sir if you... Mr. Jaffer: Is that a ruling of the chair,That daress7t the chair will not recognize anyone unless he has stated his a . Mayor Ferre: Yes. Mr. Joel Jaffer: O.k, my address is 3268 Mary Street. I would just like to advise the Mayor, that his ultimate liability is in his following the law and not on what his legal advisor tells him the law is. I just want to tell the Mayor that, thank you. Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else? Mrs. Gordon: I would like to state my own feelings on the subject and I have no objections to it, and will probably vote affirmatively for it, but it is advertised as coring up after 3:30 and there may be people who will attend this meeting to speak to this issue, and I don't believe we should vote and then vote :13 rescind our own vote. And I think that is foolhardy. Mayor Ferre: Well, you didn't have that opinion about the Orange...about beer in the Orange Bowl. Mrs. Gordon: We did not pass that by way of a resolution, we indicated that we would take it up later for a vote, a bir.ing vote. We only had a motion of intent and you are the one who expressed those words yourself. Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion? Call the roll. WHE'UPON the City Attorney proceeded to read into the record by title the emergency ordinance, the City Commission agreeing to take this matter up for final roll call later on this same day (See Ebergency Ordinance #8979 later same day) 22--"C" LISC1SSIOn OF Al '.D OF BID ST '.UCTITAL STELE:, COT.IIIREUCE/cc !VEITrIOww CF.I??'F. • Mayor Ferre: Now, we are now on item number 17 which is a resolution authorizing the Manager to award an additional portion of the structural steel bid. Mr. Manager. Mr. Grassie: I'd like to have Vince Grimm speak to this item, Mr. Chair-. man. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grimm. Mr. Grimm: My name is Vincent Grimm, I'm a member of the City staff. In order to keep this project, Mr. Mayor, it is necessary that certain elements that we have already received bids on continue. One of those elements is the fabrication of the structural steel. What we are recommending at this time, is that a second portion of that contract be awarded. The Commission has already received bids on it, so that the mill orders can be placed in order to not delay this job. The mill order work alone will take about 4 months and that is what.the purpose is. Mayor Ferre: Questions? Father Gibson: Move. Mayor Ferrer Moved by Gibson. Mr. Plummer: Second. Mayor Ferre: Second by Plummer, further discussion on item 17? roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Plummer, was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Armando LaCasa *Mayor Maurice Ferre (SEE FORMALIZED AS RESOLUTION NO. 79-615) COMMENTS ON ABOVE ROLL CALL: Mayor Ferre: With the same proviso that ,we'll bring it 1 ■ ■ .66 SEP 1 3 1979 the question'again this afternoon, I vote yes. 22"D"-1. DISCUSSION OF AWARD OF TOTAL CONTRACT FOR ALL REMAINING WORK ON CONFERENC/CONVENTION CENTER(SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS). 2. AWARD OF BID ON ABOVE: FRANK J. ROONEY, INC. 3. DISCUSSION OF PARTIAL RELEASE OF CONTRACT TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF HOTEL PLATFORM. Mayor Ferre: We are now on item number 19, which is Mr. Plutiii& ' : It's been withdrawn. Mayor Ferre: 17 you wanted Mr. Grassie: item with the a... Well, Mr. Manager, you told me a little while ago that after to pick up item 19. 19 is withdrawn in its present'form but we have a substitute same number which does basically the same thing Mt... Mrs. Gordon: You haven't; given us a handed to us a little while ago. Mayor Ferre: I haven' t even chance to read it though, it was jus seen it now.' Mr. Grassie: I, I. agree and if ..".'we have to use .ur discretion in this ase. We won't ask you to vote on it if you are uncomfortable but we would like for you to consider it andwe hope that you will vote for it. Mayor Ferre: The Chair will rule as follows. We will vote on it this afternoon. In the ireantirre, we would like an explanation right now. Mr. Grimm: Vince Grimm, City staff. This item is for two purposes. One is to award a total contract for all of the remaining work on the Conference/Convention Center in"the `amount of 26.7 million dollars. That award being subject to our successful validation and sale of revenue bonds. Mayor Ferre: Who are you awarding this contract too. Mr. Grimm: To Frank J. Rooney, Inc. And secondly, to release at this time, a portion of that contract so that we may build with EDA funds the hotel platform. Now this award is subject to both of those successful financing arrangements. Now, the reason for this award is that when this project was initiated, the City felt it was to its advantage to take bid packages. In other words, to break this rather large contract down into several bid packages. We took bids on this basis, primarily because my experience in the past dictated that this was to our best economic advantages. The circumstances of the bids that we have received today did not uphold that theory. And it is for this reason that I feel it's in the City's best interest to proceed with one contract at this time. Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you a question, Mr. Grimm. Does this comply with all state, City of `"Miami Charter laws and regulations? Mayor Ferre: We'll vote upon this this afternoon. Any further questions, or discussions at this time on this item? Mr. Fine. Mr. Fine: For the record my name is Martin Fine, 2401 Douglas Road. At the risk of being repititious, I want to know if all these will be voted on on or about 3:30 before your budget hearing, so we can schedule our time. Thank you. .67 SEP 1 3 WI Mayor Ferre: Yes, yes. I will...those that we voted upon,I will; AuStask if there is anybody who has anything to Say 'other than:what the people that are here today, that have had the opportunity to speak. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Worsham will not be here at that time. Mayor Ferre: I understand, and that's why we brought that vote to a head so Mr. Worsham could go away with a modest amount of security. . We will vote upon this item this afternoon at 3:30. All right, is there anything else, Mr. Grassie to come up before this Commission on item... Mrs. Gordon: Item number C, Mr. Mayor. you can defer that until the next meeting because... Mayor Ferre: In a moment, Rose. Mrs. Gordon: It's wrongly on the agenda. worded wrong. Mayor Ferre: In a Moment please. Mr. GrasSie,-againja.there:. anything with regards to the Convention:ConfOrOceCeilter-..thatihaa not been covered that you wish to cover at Mr. Grassie: No, sir. You have covered the 6 items that we bac. Mayor Ferre: O.k. Now, I think that it now being 1:20 and Mrs. Gordon and Mr. Plummer asked for 1 hour, so we will then meet here at 2:30. Is that acceptable to everybody? Is there anything else... Mrs. Gordon: Yes, I just want to clarify. C is on the agenda but it's on there wrong. The request is not as it's worded so it should be placed on the next Commission agenda properly worded and that would be that no right turn signal on Bayshore Drive and the entrance to Bay Heights be considered for elimination....or for residents only. Mayor Ferre: Is there any problem with the request of Mrs. Gordon to put this off for the reasons she stated? Anybody have problems with that? All right, then do we need a resolution to that effect? I don't think you need a resolution. It's just a deferral for proper wording on otem C. Anything else? O.k. We'll see you at 2:30. WHEREUPON the City Commission recessed at 1:25 P.M. and reconvened at 2:45 P.M., with all members of the City Commission found to be present: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ABSENT: Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. ;t.Pi :3 1979 23. PLAQUES, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS. 1. Presentation of a Resolution expressing condolences to the family of Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer on the demise of his father Joseph L. (Joe) Plummer on Saturday, September 1, 1979. oommEars MADE BY CITY OOMMISSICNERS ODNVEYING THEIR COMMENCES '1t OOMdISSIONER J. L. PIA . JR. ON THE DEMISE OF HIS FATHER J. L. (JOE) PIJUMMER. Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, we also have another resolution of condolence. This is a very sad one for all of us. It deals Withour good friend, Canmissioner J. L. Plum er's father. 'WHEREAS Mr. Joseph L. (Joe) Plummer, Sr. enjoyed a full and productive life until his passing on September 1, 1979; and WHEREAS Mr. Joseph L. Plummer, Sr., since coming to the City of Miami 50 years ago from his birth- place, Key West, contributed greatly as both a businessman, an outstanding citizen of the community, having been active in professional associations, a member of the Dade County School Board, as well as participation in numerous civic and social organizations; WHEREAS Mr. Joseph L. Plummer, Sr. left a legacy of love to his dear wife, Jessie H. Plummer and service to his sons Vice Mayor J.L. Plunner,Jr., and State Representative Lawrence H. Plummer, which will live in the memories of all residents of the City of Miami; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAmi, FLORIDA: Section 1. That we convey to the family members our deepest regret and wannest sympathies upon the passing of Mr. Joseph L. (Joe) Plummer, Sr. while sharing with them their profound sanzc cf loss. Mayor Ferre: And may I add, a personal note ladies and gentlemen, that we judge people to a great sense by the fruit they bear. Joe Plummer, may his sould rest in peace, left a legacy on his own right, but he has also left to us two sons that are carrying out that tradition of service and conviction and public purpose. And, I'm sure that, as he looks down upon us, as I know he is doing right now, he must be smiling in recognition of the wonderful job that his two sons are doing for this community; and indeed he can be proud of the legacy that he has left and that continues on even while ht is not physically with us today. J. L., our deepest sense of sympathy on this occasion. I would like to invite each member of the Commission to say a word for the turd. Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, and members of the Commission, I want to say for all of us ,that the members of the Commission have decided give a memorial tolhe honor and glory of God in memory of Joseph Plummer, Sr. And at the appropriate time when that ntessorial arrives, it is our hone to bring it so that you the public, can see it. It is a church use )ere they will have to use it, literally, every Sunday, and with that in mind Joseph Plummer will not be forgotten. Mts. Gordon: It very difficult to findloords that are suitable for an occasion such as this. But I would like simply to say to you J.L., and to your brother, and to your family in its entirety, to your mother and your children, that although sometimes people witnessing us up here might think that we really don't like each other, that isn't the case. We do have a feeling of friendship and warmth that we do feel for each other, and we do appreciate the good things that each of us contribute to society in general. And J.L., your parents have been outstanding citizens in this community and certainly as the twig is bent, so grows the tree is very well exemplified in you and your family. Mr. LaCasa: For me to sign this resolution today, was a sad thing because it entails the passing of Joseph Plummer. On the other hani, I feel that we honor ourselves by honoring somebody who contributed so much to our community. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, and my fellow colleagues, on behalf of my mother, my brother, my wife, and the two grandchildren that he loved dearly, you do us proud by recognizing my fathers acconplishme-ts in this community. And I hope and pray that my brother and I be given the strength to continue that good name which my father built fc- so long in this community. Most of you are aware, that the past 65 days my mother has been ill in the hospital. And i want to conclude, because my dad would have it that way, at the -lass was read a poem, "Let there be no sadness nor farewell when I have crossed the bar. Let there be none today". Thank you very much. 2. Presentation of a Resolution expressing condolences to the family of U. S. Representative William Lehman on the ,demise of their daughter, Kathryn Lehman Weiner. Representing the Lehman family will be Ms. Marjorie Poulos. 3. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mrs. Longsdale Green, President, , Regents Council of the Daughters of the American Revolution of Greater Miami and Ms. Celia Bordeauz, a fifty year member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, declaring the week beginning September 17, 1979 as "Consitution Week." 4 Presentation of a Proclamation to Dr. Astrid K. Mack, Coordinator of the Dade County Sickle Cell Foundation, Inc. declaring the month of September as "National Sickle Cell Month." 5 Presentation of a Proclamation to Ms. Marina de Iglesias, President of . • the Centro Hispano Catolico, Proclaiming the month of October as "Centro Pispcno Catolico Month." 6. Presentation of a Certificate of Appreciation to Ofelia Diaz, Director of the Wagner Music Conservatory for their contribution to cultural , arts in south Florida. 7. Presentation of a Commendation to City of Miami Carpenter, Hector • Carrasquillo for saving an eleven year old girl from drowning. SEP 131972 Mayor Ferre: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to try to move as quickly as we can to catch the hour that we are behind. The only item left Mr. Grassie in the morning meeting is Item F and I think we can come back on that. Is there anybody here on Item F that wishes to be. recognized? 24. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED USE OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS. Mayor Ferre: If not we will move along to the public hearin;_ which is at 2:30. The Proposed use of Federal Revenue Sharing Funds. Now, ladies and gentlemen, so that nobody gets upset, at 3:30 I will interrupt the proceedings that is in twenty-five minutes to pass some resolutions in reference to the Miami Convention Conference Center and I hope that they will go very quickly, but I hope you will bear with us. Alright, we are now on Item #i3, Mr. Manager. Mr. Grassie: Item #3 Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission is a public hearing which is designed to present to the Commission and also to th public proposed usae for Federal Revenue Sharing Funds of the City. Now, what I would like to do :s to ask the staff to give you an overview of the use of those funds and then spend most of the discussion time on the most difficult policy issue involving these funds which has to do with the funding of social service agencies, that is, outside agencies. So, if we can Mr. Mayor, SEP 31979 I would like to ask the budget staff to start with a discussion of the general use of funds and then we will move to Dena Spillman and ask her to discuss with you alternative schemes or niternative proposals for funding the social service agencies. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, may I ask one quick question, because it bothers: me? Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir. Mr. Plummer: You know, this Commission met jointly with the School Board this year and we made certain commitments to the School Board if they would do certain things, we would do certain things and as I recall one of the areas in which this Commission made a commitment was in the area of the After School Programs. All I really want to know, are we covering the commitment that. we made to the School Board, is it being addressed in this particular presentation? Mr. Grassie: The presentation will end with five alternatives Commissi "ier and at least one of those alternatives-- and it happens to be alternative #i5- does in fact cover that commitment. It does, I should add, change somewhat the nature of the After School Program in that it would reduce from it's present level, but I think that, that is pretty much agreed to between the school system of the City, that there is some restructuring that should take place there. Mr. Plummer: My only concern is that I as well as the rest of this Commission live up to a commitment that we made. That's my concern. I'm a man of my word and I want to continue to be after. and I'm sure you do too. Mr. Grassie: Alternative #5 will co that Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: Fine. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Jet's proceed. Mr. Gary as you make presentations after you let the Comm...,sion see the presentations I think it's important'_ that we turn it around and let the public also see what we are talking about. Do you have any extra copies members of the public that may want to see this document? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Alright, half of them will be over here and the other half will be on this side. I would appreciate you sharing as many as... we don't have enough for everybody in this room, so try to share please. Alright, let's go. Would you tell me how this is different from what we have in our packet, if at all. Mr. Gary: It's the same. Mr.-Grassie: It is not different Commissioner.; Mayor Ferre: Then here is an extra copy in your packet. Ok. Mr. Gary: Members of the City Commission I would like to give an overview of the proposed usage of Federal Revenue Sharing Fiscal Year 1980. The information that the citizens have and that you have before you is the same information I want to present to you on a chart. Briefly, this year the Federal. Revenue Sharing Allocation from the Federal Government is approximately. four hundred thousand dollars less than what we recieved for the current year. Mayor Ferre: How much less? Mr. Gary: Approximately four hundred thousand dollars. That represents'' about a five percent increase. Before I begin so we can keep the record straight for the Federal Government. One of the requirements of Federal Revenue Sharing is that we hold a public hearing to permit the City... the citizens of the City of Miami to voice their concerns regarding the proposed usage of Federal Revenue Sharing as proposed by the City Manager. That meeting was held on Thursday, August 23, 1979 at 9:30 in the City Commission Chambers. We had a number of people to attend and they were permitted to voice their concerns with regard to the proposed usage as presented by the gl r � City Manager. What I would like to do is to briefly... I would like to briefly discuss how we allocated the funds for this. If you will loOk at Your chart — Mayor Ferre: Mr. Gary, just for everybody's knowledge here, what that board contains that the members of the public cannot see is exactlY what s on page one. So if you need a copy there is still some extra copies on this side... he isding over this page one. Go ahead. Mr. Gary: By category for the General Fund we are proposing that we 'allocate approximately six million dollars to the General Fund which is actually two hundred seventy-nine thousand dollars less than the General Fund receives from this portion of Federal Revenue Sharing for the current year. That represents approximately a four percent reduction. With regard to street lightings, we are proposing that the same allocation be made for street lighting because of the commitments that we have made in the past to street lighting from this source and once you make that commitment it becomes an ongoing commitment. Just to refresh your memory, this amount which is nine hundred thousand dollars is considerably less, approximately three hundred thousand dollars less than the original commitment that we used to make to this fund in prior years which was a policy of the City Commission. With regard the rE reation extension program, we are proposing to allocate a hundred sixty-five thousand approximately, for Parks Mechanization thirty- three thousand, for Social Service Program approximately a half a million dollars, which is approximately fifteen percent more than they recieved for the current year, for Day Care we are proposing that no allocation be made for Day Care and that this be placed on a self-supporting basis. With regard to African Square Park, we are recommending the same allocation of thirty- seven thousand. With regard to handicapped, the same amount as they received this year, which is forty-five thousand. The total is approximately 7.8 million dollars, show a difference of approximately four hundred thousand dollars. Are there any questions? Mr. Lacasa: Yes. Mr. Gary, I see several line items and specifically in the social service area. I would like to have a breakdown of the programs that are going to be funded with the proposed allocation for social services and also those that has been previously funded, that are going to be discontinued. Mr. Gary: That's going to be the topic of discussion of Ms. Dena SPillman who will be discussing that matter. Mayor Ferre: .0k. Anything else? Any other questions of.Mr.'Gary? If. not Ms. SPillmaU? Welcome and good luck. , Ms. Spillman: Pardon me? • ' Mayor Ferre: Welcome and good luck. Ms. Spillman: Thank you. You have in your package a memo from me to Mr. Grassie dated September 11, 1979. Subject "use of Federal Revenue Sharing Funds for Social Service Programs". I would like to clarify one thing, in Mr. Howard's memo the amount allocated for Social Service Programs is five hundred twelve thousand six hundred seventy-sev n dollars. You will notice that the figure we are using is five hundred twenty-three thousand six hundred seventy-seven dollars. We are including an eleven thousand dollar carryover from current years programs that we will be taking back and we will be reallocating that. As you all are aware we have been providing an allocation out of our FRS funds for social services since 1973 and generally the funds that we allocate supplement social services which are provided by other agencies, be it the County, the State, the Federal Government or private non-profit groups likc the United Way or the Catholic Serivice Bureau. This year we received twelve applications from new programs, programs which had not been funded previously through Federal Revenue Sharing and fifteen requests from currently funded programs. The requested amount is two hundred twenty-five percent more than we have available for allocation. Mayor Ferre: Where do we have those figures? I don't have... Ms. Spillman: There is a memo dated September 11, 1979, that you should have in your package. gl :73 SE? 3 Wj You'11 notice that the figure we're using is $523,677. We'r inc.uding an $11,000 carryover from current years programs that we will be taking back, and we will be reallocating that. As you are all aware, we've been providing an allocation out of our FRS fund for social services since 1973. And generally the funds that we allocate supplement social services which are provided by other agencies. Be it the County, the State, the Federal grovernment or private non-profit groups like the United Way or the Catholic Service Bureau. This year we received 12 applications from new programs which had not been funded previously through federal revenue sharing. And 15 requests from currently funded programs. The requested amount is 225% more than we have available for allocation. Mayor Ferre: don't have.. Where. wheredo we have those figures? Ms. Spillman: There's a memo, dated September llth that you should have in your package. Mr. Grassie: supplement. Mayor Ferre: what, Dena? This was distributed Mr.'Mayor with the agenda' 0 e 1 you say' it was sent about: September Ms.; . Spillman: It'sdated September llth. Mayor Ferre: 1 see....so...I have it here;. I"have it It's fresh off the press. When did we get it? Last night' Well, I hate to tell you but I wason an airplane flying for six hours from the Dominican Republicalong with Armando Lacasa. We prayed half of the way over. And I didn't have time to read anything. (LAUGHTER) Ms. Spillman: All right, given the decrease in funding that's available. We started out on the premise that we would not consider funding for new programs and we would try to deal with existing programs in our funding recommendations. We also found it necessary to recommend no increases for existing programs. Most of the agencies that we have been funding asked that their budgets be increased. We have not recommended that any agency be increased in funding. I'm sure that you are all aware that despite the fact that our FRS allocation has decreased over the years, we have maintaine our commitment to social service funding. In the past, monies from other budget areas, like the general fund, have been used for social service programs and they are not available this year. What we've done for you is presented 5 funding options which will give you some idea of the various approaches you can take in funding social services this year. I` want to remind you, as I'm sure you are all aware, that on September 30th of this year all our contracts with FRS agencies expire. So, as of September' 30th unless some action is taken. none of them willreceive funds. Each option>that 'I presented here contains:$36,000 in administrative cost for our departments, which I discussed with you during our budget hearing. And I want to add that on the...at the public Leering on August 23, that Mr. Gary spoke about, we sent letters to all the agencies that. have request funds. We sent letters to, all our CD.charimen, all the boards. Any- one we could think of that was interested in this. So, everyone was notified in advance, and had the opportunity speak on the issues. All right, just briefly, I want to run through with you why we are giving you 5 options. Our t . 74 era 1 q 47,' funds were cut this year from$1,064,00,0 to:$523,000.,'. decision needs to be made by, the`Commission on the whole day care issue. Whether to make it Self supporting and.thi's. includes private non-profit>agenc s, as well'as City:Day-,Care. I want to point out to you that all of last years private non-profit agencies could be funded with smaller.cuts,`with- the exception of 1 or 2 programs which staff does'not"feel- are a -high priority. And I'll go through them with you.: We feel, however, that we can use our;money_in a better way: and serve more people with some of'the-options we presented toyouu. There's anoter thing .I want to' stress,_ thatin many:of these options we are not recommending some agencies for', funding. Generally speaking, it is not because the _agency is not doing a good job Of providing' service. The reason we are recommending the cut is purely for budgetary reasons. And some of the agencies have been upset because`" they .think that we're downgrading their program `and saying that it's,,not good, when"we,:are.'not. And_I've explained that to them. That -.while they may have a good program, we are' facing budget „problems -and sometimes . we have to cut anyway. On page 1, you'll find a chart.that summarizes the 5 options. -I':ll come back t that with you. On page 2, we have funding option -number 1. Really.what this funding option is, it gives prio-.ity to- elderly"people through elderly. food and recreation', programs. it,,gives,'a priority to community ;educations -through. the=:Community School Program and a-priority,to after school care.. This :o,ption would serve a`'.great number of people. And ae you will note, at the bottom' of page 4, ":most of our, Private"non-profitagencies would not be funded under thisoption I'm:.going...I'll just keep going through `these now:. If you .have ,questions.:..just want. -to '.ask "me -:now? Mayor Ferre:_: I would hope we could contain a bit and let youfinish because otherwise, sidetracked and go on for hours. Ms. Spillman: All right, funding option number 2, which is on page 5, is really a day-care and after school optionThis option would also fund the community schools and a very small amount of money $30,000, which would be given out in $10,000'grants to elderly programs to match money that they might have for food. Once again, there are no private non-profit agencies recommended in this option. The administrative cost in this option is one half because, obviously would not have as many agencies to monitor if this were selected. On page number 8 we have option number 3, which includes all the agencies which were funded last year, except the Tacolocy Sports Program. And I'd just like to speak about that for a minute. Tacolocy was funded for $11,000:for sports development program. I'm sure that the program is a good one. In fact, I know the people involved with it. However, `we. -felt that given the budget problems, that a.sports ,'program ;was 'a lower priority than others which we have before us. In-. addition, Tacolcy is funded through other sources for sports development programs.. And we felt that that program could be absorbed into the existing Tacolcy operation. Option number 3, also does not include any public day-care. It does include 2 private non-profit day-care programs which are currently funded. This option,,;'` however, does not include any School Board programs. It does not include the after school care program or the community school program. One comment on tr: community schools and the after school care programs. We did some analysis on the community school: and as you know, a requirement for a school to become a community school is that someone comes up with $5,000 initially and thee the School Board takes it from there. Given the number of clients that the School Board serves, we figured that if each person who uses the communityschool would pre -registration fee, pay a $3.50' ist 15 SEP 13 19/9 the $5,000 per school could be raised in that manner. So; -it is possible to raise those funds in a different manner,' if;the School Board would choose to do it that way. This recommendation' also assumes that the After School Care•Program from the,' County become self sufficient. And just for your information, there is 1 school in the City of Miami right now, Fairlawn Elementary School, that has a self supporting after school care program. The cost per client is $6.00 a week. And the services are not as great as those that we fund ..it's still a good program. So, I just want you to know that there does exist an after school care program that is self supporting in the City. Option number 4. What we've done with option .number 4 is taken our existing agencies and cut them, a little bit. Each one has been cut in a very small amount. And we've discussed the cuts with the agencies. We feel that they can'` absorb these cuts and still operate their programs. This option also has limited after school care. The amount we have in here, $56,000, could probably support..: Mayor Ferre: Would you clarify that. I'm sorry but I just. lust a clarification question. I didn't understand that ..ast statement about option 4,;saying "that you reduced everybody the same. That doesn't...I don't read that. Ms. Spillman: We reduced each agency by the amount which felt they could absorb. For example..Ill.. for example, Action Community Center,, ,is currently'receiving $30,000. Under this option, we recommend a $3,000-cut'based on our analysis of their budget. The>Borinquen'Health'Clinic is recommended:.. skipped over Belefonte we Mayor Ferre: Wait...wait..You Tacolcy. That's my question. Ms. Spillman: Belefonte-Tacolcy is not included in this option. Either the vocational education progrant or the sports development program. And if you'd like, later I: can give you details on why that is. The limited after school care, we feel that 1 or 2 schools could keep operating with this amount of money. And the $10,000 for community schools would be used to support thise after care programs. In other words, you can'z have an after school care program unless you have a community school in operation at that site. Option number 5 is really thesame as number 4 with the following exceptions. There is no private day care reconunended under option number That is the Saint Alben's . Day ' Care Program and the Catholic Service Bureau.Overtown Recreation Program. This is consistent with the City's.policy', of trying to make day care self supporting. We have added into this additional funds for the -,':After School Care Program, bringing it up to $80,752 which is less than half than they received last year, but could still support at least 2:schools we feel, with an increase in fees. We've also funded the community schools at the full fuding of $70,000 which represents 13 community schools which now exist in the City of Miami. The additional information that you have in .your package, on page: 16,:Commissioner .`Lacasa asked this question. earlier. On page 16, you have:. the agencies currently,receivin funds, and on page 18,.you have a list of the new agencies which request funds this year. I know that was a pretty quick review of the recommendations, and I'd be happy to answer any questions about them. Mayor Ferre: Before we get into the question period, it's 3:30 now and Mr. Fine...is Mr. Fine here now? AUTHORIZE COMPLETIuN OF CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION 25. CENTER, SUBJECT TO VALIDATION OF CONVENTION CENTER/ PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BONDS. (FORMALIZATION OF ACTIOII TAKEN DURING MORNING PORTION OF AGENDA) SEP 1 3 1979 Mayor Ferre: if there is anybody here present, that wishes to speak on item 7, item 17, item 18, in that order, Is there anybody here to speak on item 7...and 19. I beg your pardon,.,,,, Lets start with 7. Anybody here want to speak on 7? -•.,• • • .• • , Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor I think you can maybe keep a lot of people from scratching their heads. All of those iteMs - • relate to the Convention Center downtown, This is a different, i• -.1m. Only the Convention Center. • Mayor Ferre: Now, Mr. City Clerk, I want to make sire that the ordinance was read on first...item number 7, the ordinance was read on first reading. Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir. • , Mayor Ferre: We have not read it on second reading. Now, is there anybody here who wants to • be heard? Yes, sir. , Mr. Plummer : Item number 7. Are we ready inade the motion this morning...11r... Mayor Ferre: 1 made the...no , Mr. a . . Mr.• On gie• :- Mr. Laaapa• and ;you ,seoiycieTt..it, Mr. . Pi Mr. plummet : All right, 'any further --distueSi.Ori' 7? Call the , . , • . • • . • • . - . •-• . _ Mayor Ferrel Would you read it /.1r.. Attorney? ordinance on item. 7. • - • .. . • - • , , AN ORDINANCE- ENTITLED-- . • --,. • . _ . . • . . • ' f• ORDINANCE NO: 8979 ••••• • • AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF A CONVENTION CENTER AND THE PARKING GARAGE AND A CONNECTING WALKWAY, INCLUDING MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, FIXTURES, FURNITURE, IMPROVED AND UNIMPROVED LAND, LANDSCAPING AND OTHER FACILITIES APPIJRTENTANT OR INCIDENTAL THERETO; AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE, SUBJECT TO VALIDATION, OF CONVENTION CENTER AND PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BONDS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO PAY, WITH OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDS, THE COST OF SUCH CONSTRUCTION AND FACILITIES; DESCRIBING THE TERMS, SECURITY AND OTHER PROVISIONS OF SUCH BONDS; APPROVING A TRUST INDENTURE SECURING SAID BONDS; AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF PROCEEDINGS FOR THE VALIDATION OF SAID BONDS; PROVIDING SEVERABILITyA; DECLARING ThE ORDINANCE AN EMERGENCY MrASURE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa for aclipti.on as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYES:H Commissioner Vice -Mayor J. Commissioner Commissioner NOES: None Armando Lacasa L. Plummer, Jr. (Rev.) Theodore R. Rose Gordon :77 SEP 1 3 1979 Whereupon the Comm'. ‘.sion on a motion of Commissioned: Plummer and seconded: by,Commissioner Lacac. adop"ted:said Ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None AWARD ADDITIONAL PORTION OF STEEL BTD 26. COAFEREi�rE /CONVE-ATION CENTER Mayor FLrre: All right, now take up item 17 on a resolution. Mr. Plummer: Who made the motion this morning on 17? Mr. Lacasa: I move. Father Gibson: I second. Mr. Plummer: Any further discussion on 17? ordinance...the resolution. It doesnl't have The following resolution was introduced Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption RESOLUTION NO. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THE STRUCTURAL STEEL BID IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $1,838,554 TO FLORIDA STEEL CORPORATION FOR THE CITY OF MIA2•MI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH BID WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY ON JUNE 6, 1979, IN ORDER THAT THE MILL ORDERS FOR ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL SHAPES NECESSARY FOR THE SAID CENTER CAN BE PLACED; FURTHER DIRECTING THAT THIS MILL ORDER PORTION CONTRACT BE FUNDED FROM MONIES PRESENTLY ALLOCATED BY THE CITY FOR SAID CENTER (Here follows body of resolution, omitted'.here' and on file in the Office'of the "City Clerk) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson,. the resolution was passed and adopted .by the following, vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissloner (Rev.) Theodore Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: .None SEP 1 3 1979 U AUTHORI. 1: CITY I4A 1AGER TO SIGII AMENDED LE.' 27. AGREE?+1 ,T--',".IA' I CENTE't ASSOCIATES LTD Mayor Ferre: Pick up item number 18 which is authorizing the Manager to sign and amended lease agreement between dthe City and Miami Center Associates. We have already teon that. We'll vote again, if you wish. Mr. Plummer-:: Mr. Lacasa: item Move. 18, it moved',?'` Mr. Plummer: Moved by Lacasa, Is there a second. s .there a second?``. Mayor Ferre Sec�onded by :; I second Ferre. Any further discussion?' Call t e- roll. The following resolution was introduced by, Commissioner :"Lacasa,?who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO 79-616`. .A, RESOLUTION -APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE AGREEMENT' AND, LEASEFOR DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND.. MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD., THE,, DEVELOPER; WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE CITY'S LEASING TO THE DEVELOPER OF CERTAIN AIR SPACE, SHELL SPACES ,AND EASEMENTS OVER ORIN AND ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER; OBLIGATES THE DEVELOPER TO TO CONSTRUCT A HOTEL AND TO PAY TO THE CITY RENT AND OTHER CONSIDERATION; AND IMPOSES UPON THE CITY AND, DEVELOPER OTHER OBLIGATIONS RESPECTING THE CONVENTION;CENTER, THE PARKING GARAGE AND -SAID HOTEL (Here fpllows`body of resolution; omitted here and on file in"the Office of the City .Clerk) Upon being seconded byMaY ox,Ferre, the resolution. was passed and adopted' by the, fallowing vote: AYES NOES: Vice -Mayor J. L Plummer,; Jr.` Commissioner Armand° Lacasa Commissioner (Rev ) Theo,dore R. Gibson Com.missionerRose Gordon; Mayor Maurice A. Ferre None' jst .19 9 SEP 131979 28. AWARD COFTRACT: PLATFORM OR CONVENTION CE;ITER Mayor Ferre: Now, we .:idn't vote on item 19, so Mr. Grimm, you are recognized for your discussion on item 19. For the record, I asked you this morning whether or not we were legal both state and local laws and ordinances. You said yes. Let me be very specific, did you put this out for public bid? Mr. Grimm: City. staff, Mayor Mr. Ferre: yes. Were all the requirements Grimm: Yes,'` sir. Mayor. Mr. Mayo Mr. Ferre: Advertising and etc. the law met? Grimm: Yes ,sir. r Ferre: All right, is this your recommendation? Grimm: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Does this come within ..the w;i'thin- is this a reasonable amount as to, your estimates. Mr. 'Grimm: Mayor Yes , sir Ferre:'" Is it over ;your `;estimates. Grimm:: Mayor Yes, :sir. Ferre: By how much? Mr. Grimm: About' $1,000000 Mayor Ferre: 0.k., and financial plan that we Mr. Mayor want s Grimm: • yeas"onable.". you have taken that into account.in the approved earlier. today?, Yes , sir we have. Ferre: Further. questions. of .Mr. .Grimm? " `If not,, whu to move 19? Father. Gibson: Move. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Moved b'" Gibson. Is .there, a secon Plummer: Second. Mayor Ferre: Ca11 the roll.' .go SEP 131979 The following resolution Commissioner Gibson, who Movedits was =,introduced by adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-617 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDITIONALLY AWARD A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR TNr CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER, IN THE PROPOSED I.MOUNT OF $26,700,000, SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF VALIDATION PROCEEDINGS AND TIMELY SALE OF CITY REVENUE BONDS ISSUED FOR SAID CENTER CONSTRUCTION, AND UPON FURTHER CONDITION THAT THE HOTEL PLATFORM PHASE OF SAID CONSTRUCTION PROJECT BE COMPLETED BY MARCH 1, 1980, WITH PAYMENT FOR SAID PHASE LIMITED TO $2,335,000 FROM FUNDS MADE UP OF APPROXIMATELY $2,000,000 IN GRANT MONIES FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION (EDA) UPON THE RECEIPT OF A SECOND LET -ER OF CREDIT FROM EDA, AND WITH NECESSARY FUNDING IN EXCESS OF SAID GRANT MONIES FOP SAID HOTEL PLATFORM PHASE TO BE PROVIDED FROM FUNDS PRESENTLY '.LLOCATED. FOR SAID CENTER (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer,`t resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: Gibson AYES: Commissioner.. (Rev,. ). —Theodore Commissioner Ros,e:Gordon Vice -Mayor J L "._Plummer, .'J.r. Commiss"ioner,,Armando:Lacasa *Mayor Maurice A. 'Ferre• NOES None ON THE ABOVE: COMMENTS e. Mayor:Ferr,e: That makesit unanimous. I vote. yes. All right, now Mr. Fine, are you satisfied, "now that we'.ve done... All right, now, Mr. Fine are we all...all right, thank you,sir. Any further disucssion on any of these items that anybody wants to bring up...from the Commission side. 29.- COfTI11UATI0P1 OF DISCUSSION OA PROPOSED USE OF FEDERAL RIZVENUE SHARING FUNDS Mayor Ferre: All right, Ms. Spillman, you may proceed now with where you left off. Ms. Spillman: Ileft off with questions. Mayor Ferre: 'All right, it's now timefor questions. I'll ask you 1. You have 5 options that you"rec..that':'You .gi S EP 1 3 ;;; outlined. Which one do Ms. Spillman. Out of the 5, and believe me they'" are .a11.,_.. difficult choices, Z believe thatnumber 5"serves, the' most' . amount of people and accompli'sh"es"seve"ral goals while serving those people. Mayor Ferre: Number 5 reduces their programs. Ms. Spillman: That's correct. Mayor Ferre: It also removes the Catholic Service Bureau Day Care Centers and the city Day Care Progratns... Ms. Spillman: And Mayor Ferre: And the Saint' Albans._`Other than -that,` pretty much .the same. .'fund,ing"of last years", with the, exception that it went'up .a little <;bit ""with JL'"SCA 'in": Coconut. Grove. You alsowent downin. JESCA .Culmer:.. . Ms. Spillman: Well we 'consider JESCA -as that light., it remains the:' sane Mayor Ferre: A11 right, ''the" Little Hay.aoa went down';.b; $1,500 and the Miami 'Jewish" ,Home for the Aged went" 'down $7,000'. Is that. Mr..`Lacasa: And the-Belafonte went down to zero. Mayor Ferre: Yeah, as did the 'Youth Vocational Program. As did the Catholic Service Bureau and the City'Day Care Center. All right, any other questions: Of: Mis.Spillman? Mr. Plummer: Yeah, the 2 are JESCA an., Villaverde. Mayor Ferre: main food programs, as I<recall, o, and the First Methodist Church. . Plummer: Well, that one is ..o . k. Yes. Ms. Spil;lman: part of. it is Mr.- Plummer: we see here, Programs"? Ms. Mr. Ms. one As well as theeDouglasGardens is a ':food:;.'.;: a food program. What did you do' >.with JESCA? Is this "''JESCA Coconut Grove and `"Culmer, is "that' both` food ..' Spillman: Yes... Plummer":;: All rightNow where'isVi;llaver.:de Spilaman:. Little _Havana .Activity,",Center. The,;, last. one on the bottom. Oh,youu''re looking at the chart. Mr. Plummer: Where are you? Spillman:r M on. page .13".' Mayor Ferre: J...L. the best way to look .at i resume " sheet which: is' page number' 3." You .'see Mr. Plummer The s on this all 5 options. long sheets or the short ones? Ms.:, Spillman If -you look on page 1, "Little:.Havana Activity Center under option number5 is: almost" at :`the ;bottom. t .S2 Ms. M Mr. Plummer: All right. Sc., Little Havana is feeding people. JESCA is feeding people, in both places. The First Methodist Church is feeding people. And where else? M M Mayor May Ms. . Spillinan: Jewish Home...Douglas Gardens.; .,'Plummer: Is that for food?" . Spillman: Part of the budget, is "for food. That'"s corrett.; Ferre. How much?" Spillman: Elderly Day Care Mr.':. Plummer:. ".All care of the sick right, now. The Health Clinic is taking The Catholic Service Bureau is Day Care. Spillman: That . Plummer: After s correct. School Program committed Ms. Spillman Well,' I: want to add something here. budget ° is out under this option to : $80,000. Their Mr. Plummer: Here again, what is our commitment?" What is ourcommitment, Mr. Grassie? have to be truthful,:._ I"'can't remember, but.. we did make" a commitment to those people. Is there someone here from the 'Schc- 1 Board that was as that meeting.: The joint meeting. M. Grassie: We did make a commitment, Commissioner Plumme any it involved a number of "eas.. But with the regard to these 2 programs, basically we "committed that we would continue the community school program and indisucssions with the School Board staff we would consider, the level at which we should continue the after school care program. I' dont' know whether you remember that they had some reservations about some of the sites. And that process of reevaluating them. wassomething that we said we would engage in. Mrs. Gordon: Dena, while we re waiting, would you be good enough to explain the service that's being delivered :il those that you are recommending. .'Spillman: 0 k. it gives you abrief If you look.on"page ,; I believe it:'s.1 summary of each. Ms. Spillman: O.k. Action Community Center which is being recommended at_'a slightly reduced"rate,.provides door to door. tran:,portation.;services on demand at no cost to elderly people to go shopping, to the doctor, to various events. They;, also serve<:youth and handicapped persons. Low and moderate income people. Ms. Spillman: Their total total budget .is.$148,016. Mrs. Gordon:=Who providesthe other funding? Ms. Spillman: Previously, they received: now the CETA funding is, we're going: on what they have now. It's hard to tell what they are going to get in the -future. OS all CETA. $97,000 they get $10,000 in Community Developmentfunds. i! i SEP .61 That's actually not right it right? Mrs. Gordon: Not right? Why isn't Ms. Spillman: $10,000 Community Development, $10,000 from Dade County Community Development and $58,000 from the Department of Transportatir grant which allowed them to b vehicles. That was a capital grant. Mrs. Gordon: That was a one time grant? Ms:Spillman: That's correct. Mrs. Gordon: And how many service of one month? Well, the figure is served per year. Can someone... Mrs. Gordon: Are those client trips clients? Ms. Ms. Ms Mrs Ms Mrs cis Spillman: Gordon: S1i'll.man:- Gordon: Spillman: ti calls are ` made in a perio ..I :,have 5,000 clients 475 clients a month:; Separate' and individual Unduplicated. Pardon me or separate clients Yes, unduplicated clients individual or client ordon: Separate and individual clients? Spillman That's correct. Mrs. Gordon: How. month?. Ms.: many client Spillman l,650. Mrs.; Gordon You'. more information? trips, trips n"total, are made per. have some more information. He :has some Ms. Spillman: No,"we :I'm .we'r.e waiting for your nex questions. Mrs. Gordon: No, I...he was., I want to know what it was. Unidentified Speaker: in case.... Mrs. Gordon: roviding you with: some infortna wasstanding, at' the calculator.''. the tion l " Oh, alright. Would you proceed then next service item that you have on your list. Ms. Spillman: 0 k The next one under option 5 would be Borinquen Health:. Care Center. Borinquen ..this is direct health care to low and moderate income people. They provide dental care and regular healthservices, including xray, lab analysis, treatments. It's a health clinic.It's Open from 8"o'clock in the morning until 8 o'clock at night. Now, on-Bo.rinquen there ..Mr.;'`Lopez asbeen working with HEW officials in Atlanta to try to get additional funds. He has yet, not received a response, ;frog.: them. If he gets the funding that he has requested, he will not need FRS money. However, at this point he is over ;$1,000,000.in the red. So, our funds won't even help to.;bring hiniup. to what he needs.' They. would just supplement his budget. to at 12 AI CC.' 1979 1 Mrs. Gordon: Could we ask him to come to the micorphone for :some questions? Mayor Ferre: Mr.Lopez., Mrs.. Gordon: ,. I °know you 'don't operate the clinic on 26 or- $27000. What other funding "sources ` do' you have and whit amount. Mr. Plummer: 0h no don't know this uans name Mr. Emilio. Lopez: I'm going to tell you my name, and where..: my name is'Emilio .Lopez and I'in=the Director of Borinquet Health' Care ;Ct.nter. And I live at':129...12910 S.W. 117 Stree I just moved so ,you know,'tha~'s the only reason. Now, the problem that the clinic as Mt. Spillman mentioned to you, werequested from HEW:, $80.0,000..to... much? Mrs".,G Ho.w: Mr. ;`:Lopez : $800,.000.` k'hen we went....to budget with,they allocated ..`they get. enough money `::that,'"they 'were going Mrs ordon: Gordon: $850,000.? our.``review of our tell us .that,.if they o .ailocate' $850,.000.: Mr. Lope: I mean .$750,000 to our project. But at;;the present time, they only, could actually give the center $590,000. and:: that would leaveus shy of about $159,000 for..in our project: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lopez what was your budget Mr.,..Lopez: My budgetlast Year was some money from me too. Mayor Mr. Mayo Ferre: All HEW.'- Lopez: All HEW,;`right.' r Ferre And you requested 800? Mrs. 'Gordon: Can't:. $610,000. last ;year? They. still cut Hr.� Lopez. And we requested '.$800,000;from HEW :.this year. And' it was approved unanimously by the H.S.A. Board when we hadour review in HEW, it was' also approved over there. And like I..explained to you, they allocated $750,00, if they get enough money to do it. I just attended a meeting on Tuesday in Atlanta. They say that I' was there at the proper time and they had received the word they are going to get s�me more money. Theamount: of money that they say they will give if any monies i. forthcoming from them, will be it's still, I don't know Now, one of the things that we told HEW and it was appr,oved'by.the board, that if the funding level that they appropriated top us.$590,000, which includes $37,000 for the HaitianProgram that we are having. in this community, we would have to curtail services from 8"o'oclock to 8 o'clock. We might have to close the dental department and we have to`closc, the mental health unit. Mrs. Gordon: You said you didn't have any'money in 78-79.? Mr. Lopez Excuse Me. Mrs. Gordon: You didn't get revenue sharing last year? Mr. Lopez:` We got money...$27,000 for a project;calle ist SEP 1 ' 19i3 Puerto Rican Opportunity Center. Mrs. Gordon: Well, Dena Spillman, would you pease tell me why you have the $28,000 listed on Borinquen Health Care Center, if in fact, the money was not given. to.Borinquen. Health Care Center but' to the Puerto ,Rican Opportunity Center, Mr. Lopez: No, no that Ms. Spillman: All right, I should have explained ths.t to you. Let me explain. It was ...the money 'last; "year was" give.• to the Puerto Rican Opportunity Center :w'1!,ch.is no longer going to be in eixstence. What the request 1 this year .is that these funds be transferred to the Borinquen :Health Care Center which was the umbrella agency for the Puerto'.Rican Opportunity Center last year. Mrs. Gordon: Ms. Spillman It's a different'service though. It is a different service.'; Mrs. Gordon: Well why -didn't y he have to tell us that. 1'16 • Mrs, Spillman: Gordon: Wel Mayor Ferre If not, whata. u point that out? Why "did Because ;I neglected my dear:. to •..`• I forgot. Is.there further comments' on that`situatio the next question. Mrs: Gordon: Well, its just. a bit ;of credibility has just; been''. lost. You know, we want everything.. right on top of t table , Dena. Ms. Spillman: Commissioner, I'm sorry It was not a deliberate omission. Mr. Lopez: May I...may I come back to the.you know, I` think you're being a little bit unfair with Dena Spillman. The Puerto Rican Opportunity Center even though its called the Puerto Rican Opportunity Center, was working giving the services to the Borinquen Health Care Center. It was an umbrella agency. As she said, we arethe Borinquen was an, umbrella agency. But was giving services to the Borinquen Health Care Center,directly working with patients of the clinic. And that was stated in the HEW...don't that that we,. are trying to put a fast one over you or Ms. Spillman is trying to do that. It is the same agency.; The only thing.,;. that at this particular time because there are other agencies in the community who are also dealing with some of the things that use to deal in this center,we change the...so we don't have any duplication pf services and we put in the monies directly into the funds of the Borinquen Health Center. That's what we are asking for. Mayor Ferre: Further questions? I forgot to.tel:l you. Ms. Spillman: The next program'is the-.!liamij Bridge. We,are recommending funding, for $14,411.00. The program provides residential care and supportive services- for'run-away•. youths..: Meals and shelter, job placement. That, project is located directly behind the City of Miami' Muncipal Justice Building. The funding...total..the programs, total budget is $.213,536.: They receive money from theUnited;Way, 1-IEW, the State, and contributions through the Catholic Service. Bureau. Are there any questions? ;t .86 SEP 1 3 1919 Mr. Plummer: Are we still open for questions?' Na:ar Mrs Ferre No, we're waiting. for Mrs. Gordon' Gordon You can continue, ;'I'm :listening. Mayor. Fevre No, one that wants to finis she's asking the questions now. You' re the know these things, so we'' ll wait. Ms. Spillman: The next program is the Dade County After School Program. They previously received $192,017. We are`. recommending $80,752. Let me give you a little background en this program.We are currently operating 3 after school care programs in the City of Miami. One at Silver Bluff School, one at Little River, and one a Carver Junior. There are :.4.other afte".. school care programs operating in the City of - Miarni. Dunbar, Shadowlawn Primary C and Fairlawn. Two of the additional :4 are funded through Metropolitan lade County funds. One isfunded through Title XX and Fai.iawn is self supporting. We have had prelimnary discussions with Dr. Tassey and we have some questions t'-•athavLn't been answered sufficiently. We know that this would result in a cut in the °.program.. We're not sure how much of a cut it would be, however. The fees for this prograxn aver. .are 2 to $8.00 a week. However, the _average fee at Carver ' is' 75 cents a weekAnd we're wondering, obviously a lot of peopleare. attending this program for nothing. 'As-oneof -the, requirements is that you must be - employee or in training for a job, we're questioning why so many people have waivers at Carver and are only paying„ 75cents a week. Little River and Silver Bluff both average around $200. One is '$2 07 and one is $2.13. Again, we requested infortnation from the School Board on income of the people that `>were going to this program, which we haven't yet received. One of the problems that we had with the program was that anyone making over $11,0.00, paid $8.00 a week, period. So that theoretically, a family that was earning $50,000 would pay the maximum of:$8.O0 a week. And we felt that the sliding scale scale could _° be revised a little •t upward to try to get additional income for the program The other. question that we had was that Carver Junior is supported, by;.$5,000-by the City of Coral Gat es as a community school and we wondered how many City of Miami residents were being served at this particular facility. We have not yet received that information either. In fact, we asked the same question on all 3 community schools as to the number of City residents that were being served at the schools. And I'm sure we'11 get it, but we just haven't: gotten it yet We haven't received that. So, we feel, you know, the program will probably have to be cut somewhat We don't. know how much. But we feel that with an increase in ' fees that they could raise more money then they are raising at, this time. Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Tassey ,. could', you answer some questions', please? You heard the director say that the' Carver School may be catering. to ;non-residents of the City of Miami. What statistical information can you furnish us to insure. us `that the City of Miami residents are the sole' recipients of the City contribution. Dr. Tassey: Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, for the record. ' Dr. Lou Tassey: Yes. Dr. Lou Tassey. I live at 8320 S 87th`<Terrace. : 1 work for the Dade County School system. Dena,' I'm sor `.p you don't have that `:because: When we left the meeting that .information .'wh'en:we1 ;� eft. -:the ;meeting my , staff advised me that they were going to call that in right .9'7 SEP 1 3 197� away, and I:thought that was taken care that you get that ;.as .quick... Ms. Spillman : No, wt: -did get. didn't get all of it. Dr. Tassey: However, the information regarding', Carver, Little,' River and Silver Bluff that we have, I; know, is better than 90% of all the people:b"ing served. There's very few, really, Coral Gables residents that are participating in the. City's after school care program at Carver Junior. Most of those people live in Coconut Grove. It's true that when you get into fees, you can establish all kinds of fee schedules, but at the initiation of the program, at the request of the City, was us to attempt to assist those people ...ere in the greatest need of these services. Those mothers and thoe families who might be receiving welfare assistance or unemployed. As you know, there are considerable number of folks in the Carver area, Little River area, and Silver Bluff area who are not what you would consider your 50,000 a year residents. And therefore, when you talk about raising fees and the amount that has been suggested by Dena's staff would really have the impact of driving all of the poor people out of the program. Because we would now escalate; thefee to the hispanic families,. and the black families, an the other families...the other multi -ethnic groups that are involved in this, who are on very limited incomes to such a point that they would not really be able to take advantage of the service and, thereby, have to quit their jobs or go back on welfare or whatever, which costs a whale of a lot more than providing the service. initially. I would like to add that the fee schedule which. we use, was a fee schedule which was jointly initiated and implemented, and developed with the City of Miami prior to the first contract when you asked us to run the program for. you. And annually, that is part of our work .program and we have made adjustments in the schedule, and escalated it. Yes,. we could add on the top end some more,`but significantly, in those particular communities, we would not run into families that have that kind of an income. I don't ,know if that answers your. question, Commissioner. Mrs. Gordon: Somewhat. Dr. Tassey: Mrs. Gor::on: Somewhat.',,The ;.some,what.: is_t:hat,_.of c.our.se,; we> want to be able`, to: help` children no, Matter where..t,heir. residences are,, `but `sinc.e, we have such: limited unds that:;;; have to try, at least,to help those wh,o are residents -of; this community. Andfo.r that,rea"son:I.was interested, in,ti statistical information °. that ;>you said, you -:,had supplied ;or '; would be supplying'.. I'm not sure`. Dr. Tassey: We'11 certainly see that you get that.. right,awa I apologize for that because I thought my` staff had.'cailed back immediately with that information. They were getting: that from the sciiools. And I just thought it-was:...we;taiked a. numb r of : times since then and you had, not.>mentioned' it- t'o me.:and it. never occurred to me to ask you'.;whethyou,;;�:sa'-, gotten it. I thought you had. Mrs. Gordon: Dr. Tassey, with this type of a cutback,;, how. muchof a"program could still be available in=those '3..:locations? Dr..Tassey: You mean..you're talking,about the after.schoo] care? Well, if there were, such a ,cutback as, this,' that's more'. than...more-than a$100,000=reduction. A:program that -'is .88 $EP 1;ii 31 sently serving over pre400 dif.fere t children...and..families: Currently.,. oday. And so, if ,you cut that in half,.you, know., you are going to.,cut your services considerably. I' we-raisc.the fees significantly I:dor believe, she might' be 'right, but I don't: believe that. we.are.goingsto-increase' our revenue that much because'the people that are paying' their fees on the lower "end: of the scale are still only going to. have that limited. ability to pay fees. We could certainly request: that they do.that�and s•ee.what would happen.. It ba. • it would make a very,=very.drastic.cut Dr. Tassey: in the program and I think it would impact most on the poor ;ani the 'people on the bottom end 'off the schedule. And that .was not my understanding of what we wanted to do with ,.the City.'s revenue sharing money since the beginning. nor is it presently what my understanding is. Ns.:Spillman: Commissioner, can I add 2 things while Dr. Tassey is still here that maybe we would clarify. There's.2 points. One _ is ;that:, the average child payment per week at Carver is ,. 75 cents. . Now that means that a lot ofwaivers...waivers can begranted_through the School Board process. There is a provision for waivers. However ',.it concerns me that since, we are trying to direct this progra!n toward people who,are employed,, why there are _so many waivers. And why ...75;cents down from.a minimum of $2.00 means there is a lot ofwaivers': at Carver. And I worder how many people are unemployed? Dr. Tassey: Those.. those same families would also be included in what we call our free lunch program, our reduced price lunch program, and our summer food program. Those families. would also be the ones that we would find in the greatest reed to waive a fee for an activity or an adult class, or a vocational class, where we would waive ;their registrations. So I'm not surprised that that would occur in a commun2ty"that has very limited income. Ms. Spillman: I guess.. all; right. ,:My point, on that is, the $2.00 a week to pay'for 5 ',times 4 is 20 hours of care for a chili? is certainly hardly anything to ask .and certainly. hardly be anything for somebody .to come up wit if they are employed at all. Dr. Tassey: If you 'r,e':on AFDC, 2, bucks is a lot of money. Ms. Spillman: But that means they are unemployed, right? If you're on... Dr."Tassey: Yes. Ms. Spillman,: That means Y u. are :,unemployed. Dr. Tassey: Well you could be receiving welfare .fo.r. children and still have some type. of employment. It would affect hti HRS amount that"you got from their agency, yes.• Mrs,.. Gordon: It could be in some kind. of. training :pro gram,,' I would have to ;imagine. too, .to: be able to learn a skill',`" would be one area that would -require the day care or; . the after school care. Ms. Spillman: All right, one other point. that I want to make the Commission understand,;' that the cost per child per week at the self supporting Fairlawn School is $6.00. The cost per child per week at Carver is $10.89, at Li:.le River it' $12.78, and Silver Bluff it's $7.44. Sc: I guess there's 2 questions there. One, why is Fairlawn so much lower and why' is 'here such a discrepancy between the schools that we fund, or among them. We go from a low of $7.44 to a high of $12.78. I know that Fairlawn probably does not provide the service that our schools do but perhaps the Commission would like to hear what sort of service they do provide. Dr. Tassey: Obviously, the program at Fairlawn which is`` operating on its own does not provide the depth, the range, or the quality of service that can be provided in a program that is more properly funded. It also means that each child' in a family pays $6.00 so that a family that would have 3 children at Fairlawn, would have to pay $18. Incidentally' Fairlawn was one of the schools that we had hoped, in previous years, to add to the funding but the City wasn't able to give us the funding to include them. It also would 'be interesting to note, that of the some 870 children that are served in the City of Miami...in child care programs,` whether it be funded by this City Commission, HRS or the Metro Commission which funds 3 community schools in the -City, only a little over 100 of those are in programs that are`. not funded. That are self supporting. So this seems to;, imply, to me, that the program is meeting a very real,. and very definite need and perhaps in the Fairlawn community those families are able or better able 'o support themselves` than in Carver or Little River, or someof the other locations Mrs. Gordon: It would be m' own observation from my knowledge of the community, that Fairlawn would be a more affluent, if not totally affluent neighborhood. It's a much higher income 1,evel community... Ms. 'Spillman: What about, I would have Mrs: Ms. Mrs. you would find in Culmer. Carver; Carver or Little River. Ms. Spillman: What about Silver Bluff though"? that's a relatively more affluent school.than`the ones that we have. Relatively, I say.' Dr. Tassey: I would say of the 3, you re 3 schools,that area probably is the least you want to use that term. Mrs. Gordon: If possible, they are getting a greater enrichment program, perhaps, there than, they are getting in the other 2 school locations. I might be wrong in that analysis but I...I would have to think that might be the case. Am I right, Dr. Tassey? Do you know whether or not programs are...have a greater variety of enrichment... cultural enrichment. correct. Of the impoverished, if Dr. Tassey: Well, it is our feeling that to really run a good program you need about 100 children. What we have attempted to do and we think we've come up with a pretty good model with the program we've done with the City is to come up with a blending of families so that the poor can participate with those that who are...who are more affluent and have that experience making those ;programs cFp131979 11 multi-ethnic.And as we get more students in th..program than the variety we can begin to do field trips. We can begin to have a better snack program, and tutorial services, and '7allets and guitars, and all the kinds of things, that, little kids_' should be able to have available to them to • ccupy their time while they are waiting for their:;part.nts to ...ome home from work. Ms. Spillman:, O.k. The Community. School Program is recommended at $78,000... $70,000,-_I'm. sorry . What we do is;;provide. $5,000 per school for 13 schools. in the City. Thatmoney.pays a portion of 1 assistant principal for cotnmunity education Salary as well as part Of the administrative staff salary. And each school- 'also 'receives '$6,000"from the Stato of- Florida; as a result of our $5,000. This :program serves oven 20,000, people per Year. Fees are charged for classes. People not.' get. free classes at the community schools., _There 'are fees charged. And as I stated before,:if the School Board wanted' to changc their policy they•could;charge a pre -registration" fee of $3.50 per person which would cover the $5,000 that the Cit• is now supplying. However, it is an excellent program and we certainly get a lot of service for our.....for the small amount of money that=we put into it. The next prograTn is - the.First United Methodist,Church. We fund them in;_a very small amount, $9,358. Their total budget is $70,345. They get-$40``.000'from-the Dade County Senior Centers, $15,500 from HRS-for food, and $5,500;'from the Area; Wide Agency ;on Aging:: We `:;re...what we are funding, for.them is-1.position.A.",person to help serve and coordinate 'the blot Meals Program and recreational activities downt'own.' The next,program is JESCA and Culmer. This "is a core Hot Meals Program which is supported by auxilary.recreationalactivities for the' elderly., JESCA receives funds from CETA for this program,". and:JESCA, itself, receives funding from sev'eral,other agencies..They have a $3,700,000 budget total. Little Havana -Activities Center provides a Hot Meals Program similar -to JESCA with recreation, transportation and all sorts of activities for the elderly.. Theirtotal budget -•pis""$-1,100,000., They receive` $250,000 CETA,'$700,007 rom'the Federal government, $82,000 from United Way-, and,„$.38,000 additional, CETA f,unds`. Again,' all the CETA funds -are this yearsCETA funds.• We:don''t know what people are going to be.getting next year. • Mrs. Gordon: What the total budget? did you say the budget was` Ms. Spillman: The total budget for Little Havana Center is :$1,100.. approximately;$1,100,000. Mayor Mrs. ow much i Activity Ferre: So it's about,,1/3 of JESCA. ordon: And how, much is JESCA's total budget? Ms. Spillman: go way beyond Mrs. Gordon: source? That's. JESCA...for all ,of, JESCA services which our =elderly.JESCA's total budget is The majority of the money comes from which.. . Spillman:"'There's.':. the total is $3,700,000. Mrs. Gordon: The major y of the money, comes from? Ms. Spillman: Well, they get $1,300,000 from CETA, $572,000 from Dade County Community Development funds. $209,000 from the United Way, $672,500 from the Child Development Services, $74,000 from the Dade -Monroe Mental. Health Trust, $39,500 from LEAA, $218,000 from the Area Wide Agency on Aging. The industrial Home for the Blind is... ist SFp131979 Mrs. Gordon: Before you go on, I want to ask you another question.. The $84,000 that you are re.. ,tnmending, what is that to be used for, specifically? Ms.:Spillman: For JESCA? Mrs. Gordon: Yes.., no, a no, :no. For Little Havana:``. Ms. Spillman: All right, $78,692 of that $86 towards the Fiot Neals Program at Peters Plaza Little River.. !irs Ms 000 is directed in Edison Gordon: Doesn't:`Title XX fund food programs anymore? Spillman: Pardon me Mrs. Gordon: Isn't there any more available anymore? Ms`. state hot -Si e a t s Spillman.: I think they get them; Mayor;Ferr,e: Name and address for Rafael the record monies here?: Mr. Rafael Villaverde: My name is Rafael:.Villaverde and, I li:ve.at 881 Ocean Drive, Key Biscayne, Florida. And at the present time the State of Florida is.not providing ,any_ • kind of funds for hot meals programs and it has, as a far as my knowledge goes, tt has never provided them. It'.s Title VI'I of the Older Americans Act which is federal mon0.ey to the Area Wide Agency on Aging and match money from the United Way of Dade County. And, a that's it. for food`' programs':. Mrs. Gordon: Do any...is there any money cotning down here from any other sources for hot meals? Ms. Spillman: Some of the agencies that we fund get food from the USDA. They get free food. They have to prepare, the food themselves, however, whereas agencies a like Little Havana Activity Center purchase alreay`prepared 'hot :;meals Mr. Villaverde: But also, we use the commodities provided by the 1epartment of Agriculture that allows us to:make the:' dollar go larger, more mileage out of the dollar. Ms Spillman: So you use that program' also? Mr. Villaverde: Ms. Spillman: Mrs. Yes, we d Well that... Gordon: How many meals do you serve everyday? Mr. Villaverda: Mrs. Gordon: 1,200. 1,200. How many locations Mr. Villaverde: 8 locations. Ms. Spillman: Our dollars, however,: Commissioner are directed towards 2 locations according to what...1 is the Peters Plaza in Edison -Little River and the other is at the Industrial Home for the Blind at the Little Havana Neighborhood Center: So we...our funds are serving 2 locations. The majority of which are in Edison -Little River.. The large -ajority. Mr. Plummer: With this which this do to your :program? r; .92 SEP 1 3 1979 Mr. Villaverde: If the budget goes ,the way it the cut of $10,000 comes? Mr. piuminert No, you are proposed under oPtion 5 to he 'cut roughly, ,gi -11300. could ::ake that up with the Unite Mr. Vdilwlaavyerpdien:a alioz thinkci cost of living 1.nnrwesesewitihiahteweablre:t.oition anticipating in the foodefseusterv.iciesthilfn.I cut, onefsft.aff P-- maintain the same level o rather than cut food, we would have to cut sta Ms. Spillman: $1,300? Mr. Villaverde: Because we..oyou see, we are not...the food oing to cost $1.65 that coStS $1.45 this year, next year is g fortunately. could workVillaverde I think we to Me. SPillmen: of administration instead of food. I'm sure ut that out we could do Mr. Vi11averd It could coue out of tnv salary. No. we administer th progratfl free for the City of liaTni. other questions? All right, thank you, villaverde: Thank you, Mr. e for the Blind. $10,000.• • liayor F.er..-Inean:: Waii.t.liwasikt,i;pYe°duthfoartg.° I'm going goitilgi bfaunckdst,o$ilt6:616.2vin Ms. Spill currently recceoTnivinen..$51°409°0°°frio'nm r t funds. sorry. They nity DeveloPlnen They in CETA, $15,°°°'inc,CfiriYhccine, $ , „.....r fotrhethseablelinodf peoplesnaP havewhat oththeayrdo is have '. trainingtheysell it. And they sources, problea. re_ Lions -e---ve h$1 aiSosotrhececeeiivvee did,$53,000. ' wsh5o,5111080keinanindobom°xesisf,orieaooPmo'tiahnnado.ntrihotrioncesi. They from the fromto t a 1 t hCp Club uoi bCg Erc andTaaAmn noCior °at ria, s$t °w1 rlei t5e havea'u5a 1 n6_9' on ro Now Theytheyowh e aag grr ada in nt yettt thehhwai who 0 Cyi. Eng Tof Ato r• m. approveda.i t i cc their eE. iT rAog or grants, who didn't. t I don't have year or not. So I don't know if the blind got a . they maybe severely affected if their CE'ri In°11eY s Mr. Plummer . when will you those answers? . Bond, / might have them right Ms. gpl.3.1man. __ now. 1 mmer, the CETA staff is today. Mr. Grassie: The•'' issluner P u putting the results efholaasetannisvghetrsa Thwill beeetiTtg the t jadveyaif.ilnaablief°fr°Irir I would imagine that distribution probably tomort° to set unii know. Iito not trying Mr. Plummer: N. Gras any information in advaflCe ' of other people, No, this piaidrbe happyto a:swif that t is questionyour that 1,4r. Grabsseir.• t CETA .e• no, " icular Progra 9 But er any question, did n° funding proraM So in other words;tthgeent wchEaTAt,iititn:eirlsitsand Dena the R - Mr. Pltimmer: to say, in reality if they didn't so any... s I .93 SEP 1 3 1979 Ms. Spillman: it greatly. Mr. Plummer: •Was there.. -,was it 70 some thousand?, Ms.Spihlman�: $53;00.0 Plummer3 O•ut. of 100 and what?•,' Spillman 15. Mr. Ms. Mr.Plummer:.? Come on. That's' a hell of an inflation factor, 50%. And do you realistically feel that they can continue to operate, at a 50%level. cut? Especially the staff..,; Ms. 'Spillman: Well,I have not discussed this with `them, but theycould run some sort of program with 2"staff people working with the blind people. I'm riot saying it would be a very good program. I'd have to look at their budget • Mayor Ferre: Which brings us ...well lets finish I'll tell you. where "I think it brings us: Ms. Spillman:" The .Jewish .. ,Miami ;Jewish Home Douglas Gardens Mayor Ferre: That's right. Douglas ;Gardens.- Ms. Spillman: All right, the Jewish Home for the Aged wa. receiving,$105,000 last year. Under option number 5 they would be cut to $98,731.. We have reviewed their budget, a-:d they wi1I.probably argue with us about this, hut we feel they can operate the same program with the cut in funds, Some of the cuts come in public relations:'. type activities. The cost per meals can be adjusted and they can... Ms. Spillman: Let me get my that will be found on page Ms. Spillman: All right, what is being proposed under this that their line itetn for food be reduced :from :$1.7,050to, $12,790. Our City cos,•_s per meal, right now, is $a 29 per meal.` That's the City's contribution. They make up the rest with donations and other sources of.- funds ':We;are recommending that our $1.29 remain the same. Their cost per meal is running $2.25 per meal. Mrs. Gordon: Doesn't people get? Ms. Spillman: It includes $2.08.per meal container in which they serve the meal. Mrs. Gordon: I know that...I think they receive additiona feedings duringthe day, in mid=morning,and mid -afternoon. Ms. Spillman 94 SFP 1 3 don• Ms Spillman: Now Mrs. Gordon: here? Would we understand. 2 snacks, not 1 snack. Is the representative';` they come to the microphone, please? Mayor Ferre: Rose, let the record reflec snacks,`:0.k? In the interest of .time. t that it'' Mrs. Gordon:` No, that's not the question, Maurice. The question is, the same kind of question asked of the previous social service agencies, and that is:how their program would" function with the reduction.You need to give your name and address, please. Mr. David Shore: My name'is David Shore, My address is, 740Q S.W. 57th Terrace. I_am the Director of Community Services at Douglas Gardens. There are 2 snacks. Mrs. ,Gordon: the 'program What` would; this amount' of a reduction do to Could, the<program:still operate effectively?' Mr. Shore.:- -..Icouldn't answer that a't this point."' We< need.:�.we= need;;"the ,,increase ithat:.was _ projected : in .. the budget .' Were"coun:ting.on, 'getting as. close to that as possible I'd have "to go'baci and' to `figure. If you notice'., there'"s very" Tittle. increase in thatfor a program of this size Mrs. Gordon Everybody has to take and tighten the belt these`days, 'a little bit. We just wanted t,o: .know whether it, wOuld destroy the program"or:whet-her "thenprogram would still'` be a viable program. That's the reason for .the question. Mr. Shore: I'n sure...I'm sure it wouldn't' destroy the program. We certainly.. Nrs Gordon: And would still be, a 'viable program? Mr. .Shore: Not as good But... Gordon: What would you have' to'cut down you have to cut out? hat would Mr. Shore: That I couldn't say. We'd have to go on piorites and- review it on ;a line by :;line basis to figure out how we could live with it. Mrs. still be ?available. Mr. Shore: It would have to be. The clients there unless• it was. That's Mayor Ferret I have .a' note that has , been sent to me b. the' members of the Coconut;, Grove Sailing Club and the other yacht clubs. 1 wish to."apologize o,nbehalf of; the City :.of Miami for, --the confusion that.isresulting out of this"agenda. I'm afraid that it is. now 4 30 we:dare still on":a'public hearing which was supposed to have taken_ a haif.an hour, which obviously i-,'I'"can't think in the last'�'10 years of a public hearing dealing with,,Federal� Revenue Sharing Funds that hasn't. taken atleast 3 to 4 hours. How 'anybody ...how we ;could have a half ,'anhour; And then after that, we have personal appearances and at3:30 we have a whole •bunch of other people' waiting : for 'the proposed budget. hearings. ,::Now, that.'s:not.. and -"here we have Mrs. Henderson, who, has been ill, whosebeen here all afternoon waiting on other -things. ,And :all "kinds of''people, I really don't know what to tell you 'except- tha ...I'd like the help of the Comrnission on this. But I...I think that what we need .95 SEP 1 '' Tr.�. to do, is after we finish with this particul r public hearing, go to the other itrm agenda from 8 on down arid -see ,.. how many of those people we can satisfy and then come back to the public hearing. And I'm sorry for ...for those of you in the budget hearing but there have been people -hear that have been waiting all day, so we'll have to do it that way unless somebody has any objections to it. Mrs. Gordon: Why don't you ask how many people are hear for other items? . , . . , . • .--'. „ . • . Mayor Ferre: All right, how many people are hear for the proposed budget hearing on the 3:30...that's item 6. Raise your hands. All right, 1,2,3,4,5 about 10. All right, how many, how many are here on itmes, anything that is item 8 through 40? Raise your hands. Anybody here on items 8 through 40? 8 through... are most of you here on the yacht club? How many of you here on the yactit club? Raise your hands. 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8...that Is the sailing club, right? 9, o.k. I got you. So if we get rid of the sailing club thing then we can move on rather quickly, 0.k. ? Mrs. Gordon: Are they also interested in the budget, the same people? Mayor Ferre: Are you interested in the budget? The same (INAUDIBLE QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE) • . Mayor Ferre--: Well, I. 'dont know. You're :talking about which public. .we have 3 pu • Mr. PluMnter: You'd better believe" the Mayor is going to ask for your ne and address. Nayor Ferre: The Federal Revenue 'Sharing Funds' in now in--•-• - session. I don't know when - we'll finish.' Now, are • , you .finished Dena? •-• "' - • _ . . _ Ms. Spillman: I, think I've ansWered....we went through the recommendations. " Nayor , . Ferre: All right. Lets -see what Cornmissions-...ighat.-. the Commission questions. are to Ms. - Spillman.- That's where we are at now. Mr. Lacasa: Have we finished with...we ,finished one of the programs? Mayor Ferre: Yes. Mr. Lacasa: Because I see Dr. Ferguson there .... Mayor Ferre: No, no, rio. no, no, no. Follow the procedure. What Dena Spillman has done is she has gone down her recommended option 5 list, and gone over everttling down to the last one which is Douglas Garden Senior Adult Day Care Center. Now... lir. Plummer: Wait a niinute...I didn't hear. Oh, this is just the ones that are recoinmended. Dena, have you touched on Day Care? Ms. Spillman: No, 1 did not talk about the ones that weren't... • • Mr. Plummer : 1 didn t think' I heard Mayor 'Ferre: Mr. ..Mr.. Members of the Commission. What'. Dena Spillman has done in the last 45 minutes, is gone through option 5, recommended programs one by one, and answered questions about those program. Now, are there any:. other questions to Dena Spillman on option 5, as recommended? Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. Now, o.k. Now what we will do -is. .we'will now go to the programs that have been eliminated.. in option 5 recommendation. And will the Directors please come forward, starting up at the top of the page. And you will go one by one. And then. Dena, if you will stand : there and answer the questions, and we",11 go one by one. Now, the next one...the first me to come before us, these are the ones that have not been recommended,` to give them the first chance. All right, now we are on Belafonte Tacolcy Youth Vocation Program. Mr. Plummer: Mr.- Mayor, before these people speak, I:wou like to ask .a question, which -I think might be helpful to all concenred. If you would allow it. Mayor Ferre: Sure. Mr.. Plummer: Dena, what determination did you use toappl`y the figure to social services, put of the;, total revenue "sharing money? How diced' you come about this figure is proposed? Ms. Spillman: I. or Mr. Grassie. 11 have to defer that question to Mr. Gar; Mr. Plummer: ;Well'I think people should have the right to know how a certain number was derived and that was applied. to social services. Others the general fund, I personally would like to know. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie. Mr. Grassier The:;.basic formula;; was estab'lished;by the City,_Coinmission when you . first' dist.ributed the Federal R'even:ue Sharing funds"at least-5 years ago ' And'in making; that, distribution,- y.ou' tend to 'get yourself i committed Particularly when.you allocate•monies to things, like -the`. stree.t.l.ighting p,r-ogram which ins basically a power bill that: we received .f,rom Florida P`• ower'and':Light We. don't have a. choice .about paying `'that or not And" once , you commit a certain amours-tof money `from",Federal Revenue Sharing... for a purpose like that, t`.hat-.comes around every year So...' Grassie: Mr. -'.Plummer: Sir, would you stick that, chart back up, . please Or - would somebody stick that chart.back`: ,up for tne.., ,;Mr. ;Gr s.sie, I guess really: the question 1'm asking, I.understand we have commitments on African Square Park. Now, the parks mechanical: Is that what it is? SEP 13 1979 Mr. Grassier Again, that was by the City Commission before Mr. Plummer: All right, what a determination that wa made I •got' here. aboutthe ;`general fund? answer for all of those line Mr. Grassier It is the same items, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: Well, you see the problem that I have, Mr. Grassie',,when youtalk about 5 years ago, you were not here and I was. This City Commission took great pride in the fact that we were about 4 times the national average. The national average being about 20% of their money dedicated to 'social service Mayor Ferrer We::were .20%. Mr. Plummer: That's what I said, Mr. Mayor. We were 4 time higherthan the national average. , .That we' used'. to, and .I know "this for a fact, use to be at.20% of, our Federal .Revenue, Sharing for social services:. Now, what I'm at a loss to understand, is how we.. have dropped,25% of what we used to be because I don't :remember any determination being made by this Commission to do so Now, if from what I understand yo. to say is that we have backed into that: position. I can understand but not appreciate. • So, all I' asking is, how in fact, you know we got ourselves., into a position of designating x number of dollars to.'.a.given program, and in particularsense today, wetre discussing social services. Mr. Grassier My impression, C is Percentages ` are no,t`accurate.- ommissioner,; that' our. Well l'm rea'ding fromthe chart,:then. you' correct the .chant Mr. Plummer: whoever made Mr. Grassier Well, we are not talking about 20%as thepoint where you started. Now, whatyou had, unless;: possibly;;you're • including also a recreation extension, but even with that, you would not be talking about 20%. What you've. got in the social service programs, to beginwith, is -the.. 5.41% plus 2.59, that's 8%. And if you wish to include" the African` Square and the handicapped program, that's;anothe.r 1% so you are up to 9. Now that's where you were. And where you are is slightly less than that. Mr`. Piumme r : Mr. Grassie Mr. Plummer Mr.-Grassie Commissioner. rassie, I'm not...that that's"a statement. I can't verify that, Mr. Plummer: Well, I understand., -You weren';t here. I was. And we use toCake . pride :in;that fact. That we were -4 times - theagain,- and the national average. And,,what;-I'._only'-asking, once really history not pertinent Co the question. Is what' determining factor: did you use to apply x number of dollars to social service' Out of.the total picture. Mr.. Grassier The determining. factor has been that within a set of limited resources, We, Wave maintained since I have been here, and I cannot speak -for prior years, since I have been here, we have maintained the proportion or percentage of .98 Crft The .total:FRS:allocation was $15,028,9°'1 Ms.. Spillman The percent The social service allocation was ;$1,616,173.. was-10.75% Mr-. Plummer: In other ,words, we' re operating a total FRS money than we did,3 years ago. that. we have to apprhPriate s Mr. Grassie: Yes, the money $7,800,000-as against that $16,000,000 figure. Mrs. Gordon: Question I'd,like to ask which may or may not to help the situation, but how -muchmoney are" we going receive for the year 79-80 :from the F P and L funds? M:."Grassie• It's.; approximately $5.,000,000. I don' t.remember the exact figure, Commissioner. constant. Federal Revenue Sharing going to social programs rms our general Now, what has also happened. to us, not only is that general, fund, but also with Federal onevdnue Sharing, •iSf the total the total amount of money has .$ as Well as the city, available to social service programs programs has gone down. But the proportion, since I. haven ot." been here at least, has remained constant. Fluctuating." more than 1 a percent... Mr. Plummer: Dena,in the 3 years that Mr. Grassie: has been here, I. think this is your3rd budget, what level were we 3,years ago. Total FRS. Ms. Spillman "I have that informa'ion years ago? That would be 1976, 7.7? Mr. P l umir. r: tire. Just a moment.. t 50% less i Mrs. Gordon: Is:it in our budget? Mr. Grassie: Yes, it is. Mrs. Gordo Can you tell me where I'll find it9 Mr. Grassie: It's in thefront ofyour budget If yo ' 1 lookattheRevenue Detail on. the first page of about 4 pages that their are for the revenue detail, look on..: as: ,I recall it's,: on the first page of that :section. It's on page5, Commissioner. It's on page ,5,-the total is.$5100,000 Mrs. Gordon: You see, what I° see is, in my opinion,; Probably a necessity, is to find some additional sourcesre un some of these necessary prc'grams.-::And either they. FPandL funds or possibly in the CD funds. But certainly, in" the small amount that you have,` there's no where in here,cover ,those necessitiesand budgeted that we'could :possibly particularly: some, of ., those that have elsee ... sDayom:e , afethose that are _ standing right " here. Andre analiafrrmo ram, the which is. an absolute urgency,: that it" be ht'e. standpoint of what has been contemplated toddone totit. I'don't an:unthinkable procedure, in; my opinion, anatthink this community, or we as officials can live with. So, '�� that's thereasonfor my. question .:about the F P; and.L funds. Then to you Dena, on the CD funds. Generally speaking, each year there is a certain amount of CD funds that are set aside for social service programs. Mrs. Gordon: "The programs ,funds';‘, what are they? u 1 that are being ;set aside from those. 19 SEP 1 ? 1979 Ms. Spillman:. All right; ut to you right now. Mr. Lacasa: But that what Mrs. Gordon is talkingabout is what I am going to call...Dena...Dena,' this is .what`:I am; going to call the option number 6. We have been presented here with 5 options. 5 options drawn by the staff based on their unilateral allocation of 4.512,000 for the social services. Well, according to that allocation, your 5 options might be very reasonable. The point is that we don't have to live with that figure of $512,000 and therefore,. there could be option nuhmer 6 which is a more reasonable option and which will take care of social programs that are badly needed including, but not .limited to the Day Care situation which concerns me very,;:. very much. We have a situation here, what I don't` see how we :an get any kind o solution today with the figures that we are dealing with. So what.I would suggest is that you take your package back to the drawing tables and you comae back to uswith a more - realistic figure and we'll start discussing human needs as they are, and as this City is supposed to take care of. Because year after year we have", to be fighting this erosion on CD, on Revenue Sharing, and; it is the eternal problem. I remember quite well when I use to represent one of the target areas of Community .Development , and I was also involved in the allocation of funds for Revenue Sharing, that we had this situation year after year here. The eternal fight with the management based on the question of their lack of sensitivity to our human needs. So, to make it very brief and very practical and not waste anybody's time,':I would suggest thatthis Commission request of the Manager that they go' back to their drawing tables and come back to us with more realistic figures which :entertains ,as another option, 6 or 7 or whatever number you want to give it., the:. Day Care Program and the other social programs that -are `.being... that are not being funded in this proposition of yoLrs here. Mr. Lacasa And if>ithat is':an order., I"'am going Mrs. Gordon: O.k. Second. ,_.But what I need ;you,:-to.,do.whe'n`:. you bring „that ~back, that• you bring ,it back on ode piec• e .o;f papershowing, us all of th•e`: sourc•es Of- funds;'' that are being • allocated:byand t:hrough the ;City. Mayor'Fer.re: Ladie's ,and g•entlemen,.,we hate in ,the"iterest of'time now, a:motion which is'very'spe• cific in"its intent. It.seems.to me; it:would.be.a waste of your - time, Tom, • and - that. of all the. other people<that are_: here to go through a public hearing` which >is absolutely meaningless at this point, until we hnvc� the revised 'figures. So I `hate to have had you wait • fhearing will now be. continued until the 27th? Is that our next meeting?. Mr. Crassie: Mr.Mayor, could -I suggest that we hold off,;• on • announcing adate? Because;I think what we are going • -.• tr have to• do is have .;a"special public • hearing. for you... boo SE' Father Mr Mr. Grassier Between now and the'27th,"otherwise you are not going to '• ve enough time to consider this. So let us...let us get back t...' you on that date. Mayor Ferrer I think it would be important also, the majority g of these people I:think would ' -prefer to have that publichearin after 5 o'clock. Is that correct? Mr. Lacasa: And that is another comment that I would like'. make. This public hearing that we are conducting, and I;°real from this memorandum, that was conducted on this question, was conducted at 9:30 A.M. on a weekday. No wonder we didn't have to man; 'people around here. So I would suggest following the Mayor's recommendation that this meeting be conducted at a time where working people can come here. The same thing we do with zoning cases, and with planning cases. And this is even more importalt than those 2 Mayor Ferrer All right, would you schedule it then, lelets sayBet at 6:00 o'clock whenever you can get everybody. g. now and the 27th. And I: hope we can find a suitable day. Maybe we can;:, do that. If. you'd all look at your` calenders while we're here. You mightbe able to : accelerate that process. 0 k. Would you look at your calenders? . Grassier`, We suggest. the"25tY: Mr. Mayor, at 6:00.o'clock Gibson:" The 25th of what? Grassier' 0f this month. September. Mrs. Gordon;_ chair and won' Mrs. ordon: I have a conflict to t''be".over until. 7. O. The 24th or the ".26th. 24th or the 26th. The 24th is all '.right.with me The 26th I c.n' conduct' meeting tF►at` Mr.� Lacasa s: The 24th I: can. Mayor Ferre• There's a census meeing on the "26thin.the evening. I can't go. oh, it's in the morning. Well then I` can go. Mrs. Gordon: 24th or the 26th? clock.' '.clock meeting, running for about Mayor Ferrer 5 hours. Mr. Plummer: No, .I can'..t Revision Commission here. Mr. Lacasat What about Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: meeting. Mr. go the 24th. I' have that Tax the 25th? Why don't ` we "make : i"t tire 25th at 7?' I won't be through. Look, I'm :conducting the Plummer 7:15 Mrs. ;Gordon: to eat too. M Plummer: l:acasa: Yeah, Bad welllisten fella, I' have to habit. (LAUGHTER) Eight. Eight clock get something Mrs. Gordon: 8 o'clock. I""can; male it by 8 o'clock. If,, that's not too late for the people though. It might be too late. It's never too late? All right, if you want to make it at 8 o'clock then... 101 SFP 1 :1 197'1 Mr. Lacasa: 8 o'clock on the 25th. • Mayor Ferre: On the 25th of September. Father Gibson: 8 o'clock on the 25th? Mayor Ferre: All right, does anybody here in the audience..`, 8 is a late hour. Does anybody have any objections to • 8 on the 25th? I hate to do this to you; I hate to do this to us. I hate to do it to Rose, because she is going to be very tired after all these meeings, but Is, that all right? 0.k. All right, everybody signing off on, the 25'th at 8? • - , • .Mr. Ernie Fannato: Mayor, I just have just. a couple of questions. It's not money involved in programs, .I'd 'just like to ask you... Mayor Ferre: Your name and address for the record. Mr. Ernie Fannato: 3 questions in reference to the makeup of these -programs. Mayor Your 7 the record. Mr. Ernie Fannato, what's your address? Mr. Fannato, president of the Tax Payers League, Miami and Dade County, 140 N.W. 9th Avenue, Miami, Florida, 33128. Dena? Dena, I'tn going to ask you a few questions. Do you keep a close check on these pr ? .. ,,. Mr, Fannato: , As to salary and mp oyees? .. ,.., c—. - ' •- - -: - - Ms. Spill.man: That's correct. . . • . , _ Mr. Fannato: All right. What-- was .the ..total Iltimber cif, etni)loyees hired for these programs? - ' . , . , . „• , . . •• r ... Ms. Spillman: I have that 'inforniation: Crie-Momen. . . , . • .„ Mr. ,Fannato: Let's see whate'-hapPened, with the money. Ms. Spillman: ... It's approximately 23. Mr. Fannato: what?23 Ms. Spillman: EmPloyees.. Mr. Fannato: Faiinato: .0i,1 no, .I'M.'.tallting:..about- anentire p..all the programs Ms. Spi.11man.:. I m on y , . , Mr. Fannato: Don't you have , it afieCked, up on, the amount of employeeethat theeepeo'1e hire? They already- send you their nettles andeverYthing,-.. don't they? Ms. Spi.j..1.flian:. I have the'.....the,data=that I have with me right is the number Of employees, funded through City Federal Revenue Sharing- funds for these agencies. I don't have the total fl-gures with me for the agencies. Mr. Fannato: 1 was. afraid you w,ouldn't have it Dena. But I' 13...give' you another' question. :'What system was used in hiring employees? Ms. Spill.tuan: Pardon toe. 102 sEp 1 1979 What system was used in hiring employees Ms. Spillman':. .Each agency has... s incorporated an:d their own bo_ardand h'as t"heir:`own `syst,em ,of hi r,ing.. not within..."they"user'their'own"personnel policy. Mr. .Fannato advertise'? Spillman: has That' see. Is ,'I't friends or do they. .do: they Mr.,. Fannato:: You do you? .And that Mayor, .Ferre: for Ms.. • would assume thatthey a vertise assume. But asa director, you don't know s what I..and . that's what'. I was afraid of . Dena? Fannato What was the total amount these projects? Spillman: Pardon me. f money appropriated Mr. Fannato : What was the total amount. ..,it isn't.. funny,., because I'11.tell you, I'm going to ask for an investigation and an audit of thi.s before it's through. You' re not going , to get away like you did last time. What was the total amount; of emp...of money used for the...all the projects Ms Spillman: :tom `.'Federal 'Revenue, . Shari'ng fund"s', Mr'. Fannato From all mentioned. all the names Ms. Spillman �Wel , Sharing funds which is Mr it? these;projects You come up,you ;:" didn't. you? can only respond to Federal Revenue approximate ly-$512,000 annato`: 512,000 -'Wel� Ms. S.pi11"man Mr Fannato $8,248'000� Ms. Spillman: programs. Mr. was Ms. e budget is $.8,248`,000,.isn' What budget sir?;: The total budget here. The; operating. appropriations, Not 'for Federal..notfor social service Fannato,: All right. What. was the amount;.of appropriated"for the pro.. for the salaries?;: Spillman: would have ;t Mr. Fannato.: You don't have it huh. Ms. Spillman: I. have it. I do not have money..that with me. Mr. Fannato: Well Why don't you haveit here, Dena? This. is a place that's"a publichearing. I'm going to tell you point blank. You know, I'm going to answer this que... ask a littlequestion, and it'"s not a laughing matter. You know Dena ,"I happen to be president of an Italian organization a few years back. We put in for a program, we didn't get it. Hut there's a new... there's a Haitians come in here, one year, they've got the program. We've had an organization for 40 years. And Dena, I want you to. know one thing, you're not prepared for a public hearing. And I hate to tell you that. Mayor Ferre: All right, well we'll: see you on the 25th. Thank you very much. 103 p1 SE Mr. Fannato: No, that's not no way. She's supposed to come upwith the salaries and projects and everything combined. Mayor Ferre: All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is continued. We will see you, God willing, on the 25th day of September at 8 P.M. with regards to the public hearing regarding Revenue Sharing funds. I need your: name and address for the record, and your statement. Mr. James Collier: My name is James Collier and my address is 3465 Brooker Street and I'm representing Saint Albans Day Nursery. I'd just like to have...I'd just like ask a question to Dena Spillman, please if I might. Mayor Ferre: Ms...Ms. Spillman, I'll tell you could you address yourself to her privately so we could move on with the meeting. We'll be here full public hearing again... Mr. Collier: But this concerns our funding...continuing funding beginning October 1 .and I don't... Mayor Ferre: ahead. Mr. Collier: I would liketo know for these .;.,the programs. that were funded in the previous year that: were not recommended' for funding this coming year, on option 5, what do we.do beginning October 1 because the hearing.will..be on-:the.26th,:.. 27, what happens October 1 when it's time :for.-our;new funding year? What do we do? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, members of the City 'Commission, all of the program agents that are no:t,pr_oposed-.for,funding have been so advised, personally, _byMs. Spillman, at least a couple of weeks ago. And;that`is 'still. -the assumption that they have to operate with at this'stage,.' Mr. Collier: We weren't advised that we would not be recommended. There was .<a.couple '`'ofoptions.that we were. advised of but it was not option-5 which eliminates our program. Ms. Spillman: No, we advised you that our preferred option 14as'5,'to the Commission. Mr. Collier: Whet _=I'm :interested ..t again October 1. Imeanyou know... Mayor Ferre: I."hate to put it to youthis bluntly,. what happens if you don't get.funded•is that y,oudon't.,get'.funde and October. 1 it's all over.'' Now, I have:.neVer seen that happen in the "City'of Miami. Have you?' Mr. Collier: No, but I've only been-with',the participatin program for 5 years, and I haven't seen- it- bappen.yet,' But I don't want to see it'happen either. Mayor Farr..: I've _been participating for l0;years and I'v'e::. never soon it happen. I'M-not saying that it won;'t happen`; this time but I...I just say, I.'don't.think anybody..here can give you any guarantees. There are .guarantees Miss Wilson. Ms. Ann Wilson: Ann Wilson,.3710 Battersea Road,,Miami, Florida. If ...you_ mean ,_,to tell .;me that; the City of . Miami Child Care Centers are not; refunded.;; on the.26th or the ',25th' that they will...all those'people' will.losetheir job and that program will be curtailed as of October 1st? 104 SEP 1319/9 Mayor Spillman.` Ms.; Spillman. I`'m sort Mayor-Ferre: She asked do you mean to say that if on October 25th there:. is no funding by this City Commission all the programs will be shut October lst? Ms. Wilson: The City of Miami Day Care Centers will ,be" iirtai1ed at that point and. all those people will have lost question asked. their jobs?; Ms. Spillman: The :City `... the proposal for Cityof_ Miami Day Care is that they become' self .supporting .so.that the fees would; be` raised as Hof that date. Ms Wilson When'can we.,discus' about the 'self supporting bit? Mayor Ferre: Well, I think at 8 most appropriate time; Ms. .Wilson:: You mean We have to'wait until funding maybe cut •o;ff' to talk .about it.? Mayor Ferre I think you have, to wait"just,like.:to.waitedt today,,, until we have an: approp,riate time:to be able to give this the. attention:: and; -the time :that" it ;requires..:and .,needs, a.s we've done„in the past !�As you recall, since .you have . been.:a:t..,every.. one, of these.meeti`ngs Ms Wilson, `this subject comes`; ;up avery;single year... the Mayor Ferre: And every single year we suffer through these.' -things, go on for hours and hours and we have 4 ,or 5 meetings. I:'hope that this time we can get it all resolved in 2 meetings. Ms. Wilson: Well, I'm concerned that these City of "Miami' employees have been given their. notices 'already. And they maybe out looking for ;;jobs. ..� Mayor Ferrer. And, wasn't that done last year. Didn't we go thrniipn *�+'c >same pr:ocess? Ms. Wilson: No, no,, it wasn't done last year. • Mayor Ferre: Well, I''in sorry,;in•.your case it wasn't In others it was. Ms. Wilson: Thesepeople have;, been given notice and if this program is not refunded ,by_the: City, that means` 4 `days thos`a.. either those people have already;'found •a job.,or "they are out of Work. And •they don't. know .un'til .the 25th:; of September. Mayor Ferre: That is ;true.That is true.' Ms. Wilson: That's a very bad situation. Mayor Ferre: : It ,is. I have no question about it. It,,.s a;< very.'. bad, ,it a very difficult situation for everybody All right, anything else? Anybody, want, to add anthing else? 105 SFpl�to7a Ms. Elizabeth Aragosa: Mayor, my name is Elizabeth Aragosa 1932'N.W. 18th Street. And my questionis similar to hers b mine is what happens to the children? What are...you know planning to do the 25th, lets suppose they say no, we're not going to fund the Day Care. That's the first, they are going, to be closed because they have been talking about replacing them with CETA employees, etc. I would like to know what's, going to happen? Mayor Ferre: Ms. Spillman? Same is the same answer. Ms. Spillman: As of October 1st, recommended for funding, will end self supporting. Ms. Aragosa: I understand but there has been said that might be able to have CETA employees replace. But as of October lst, are they going, to be closed? As of 0ctober 1st they're going to be closed if they are not funded? I just want to let them know what is going to happen. Mr. Al Howard: No, they will not be closed. The people that will be layed off will be replaced, the samepeople'will get their jobs back as 20 hour personnel. There are 13 being leyed off. We will hire back 20-20.hour -people. So actually we'd be having more than the 13-30 hour people., There will be no change. Ms. Aragosa: that you have.. Mr. Howard: They will be hired back as 20 hour personnel. They will be given the opportunity, if they would like to work that way. Part time. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: t7ILLIAM N. HUTCUINSOI7, JR. 30. CULMER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE Mayor Ferre: William N. Hutchinson, Chairman Culmer Community Development Task Force. Is Mr. Hutchinson here? Father Gibson: Somewhere in the building. Yes, he's in the hall. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Hutchinson. Sir, any..gentlemen' that goes around with an umbrella in his hand 'is .a... that's; a sign of refinement or 'something. Mr. William N. Hutchinson: I'm here on behalf of the Culmer Community Development Task Force, those of you.. Mayor Ferre: Let's give Mr. Hutchinson our undivided attention. The courtesy of your silence would be very appreciated. Especially those people in the back of the room. Don't we have an officer that can help us clear up a little bit. All right. Mr. Hutchinson: Thank you. At our last Task Force meeting,; last Tuesday as a matter of fact, the Communty passed 2 resolutions. One, which concerned itself with the right 106 SEP 131979 of an emploYee of New Washington Heights,,,naately. Ive Kierson. The Community feels that,Mr. Kierson's`termination from.; New Washington Heights has not been in "accordance with due process. And he has not had a full and fair hearing., So what the community would like for this Commission to d,"o is to somehow enact some type of body, under its auspices to provide Mr. Kierson with a full and fair hearing. The second resolution addressed itself with the Director of New Washington Heights Economic Development Conference, namely Ms. Jackie Bell. The resolution called for Mrs. Bell' immediate resignation or otherwise removal from the New Washington Heights in that particular capacity. Members of the staff of the City were indeed present, and we have indeed discussed the matter. I would think that a... an excellent.solution would be for the City to somehow create a board which would have enforcement powers to review the rights of emploYees of agencies such as New Washington Heights and as well as in the case of Mrs. Bell, we would also...that particular board...agency would have the enforcement power to terminate her. For instance, in this` particular instance... Mayor Ferre:'.;Well now, that Mr. Hutchinson: Mr. Mayor, hear me, out'. please.. In..this" particular instance, I would indicate Ghat ;the .first' item that.; could .be on; the: agenda would be f"or. Ms`..Bell to' come forth with some type of evidence,which:wouldindica"tewhy she should not be"terminated. At the past.2 CD'ineetings, she: has :been presented with the, resolutions:', which' were unanimously passed, which called for her termination or otherwise her removal._ She .wags asked by me as'Chairperson, as-well,as other -members o;f.the community to coiue forth and speak onher behalf,,in he,r defense in;opposit.ion;to." the;res"oluti`on calling for .her -removal:': On:'both occasions,' she 'failed to do':.anything,but:get,.up and leave. Thus, I won d-'thi.nk that. ,this particular ,`board, this ;'new body. would have --to; have some type .of enforcement:powers to guarantee the employee, such as Mr.' Kie,rson,.the right,.to, to go the' board of theirparticular agency,, non p,rofit,,, organization,;and express': their grievances ;against�; "their '" superiar: without fear of any, reprisal; or :termination,' whi.c occurred' in... Mayor. Ferre: Mr. Hutchinson, I think -Mr and wanted t respond. So, lets hear -from .him:and then we'll`... Mr. Jack Bond:The staff also has been working very closely withFituation, Mr. Mayor, and Commissioners. We've` also talked with Mr. ;Hutchinson, and what we'd like to do is very closely monitor this activity.. Very closely. We are scheduled to provide...conduct and in-depth investi... in-d p :h analysis and evaluation Of the New Washington Heights.activity.".not later than -December. At which time... during which time we, should develop some kind of an advisory board,or a review board,or other type of board with some powers in concert, with Mr. Hutchinson and the New' : Wanh i ngton Heights Board. Because what we do have is .a legni uiligation , and arrangement between New Washington Heights Board ofDirectors and the City. And that's as far down as we can ,go at this time. And yet we do see the need to go further because there are some problems. We have already caused them to rewrite their personnel policy. But we are notsure that they were rewritten to eliminate the possiblity of employees not getting due process kinds of hearings as, we have been told by the community, has ,occurred -An the case of Mr. Kierson. So we would like to look into that, and if you'll give us a little bit of time we can certainly work it out, I'm sure. 107 SEP 1 3 1979 MayorFerre Father Gibson: Let me ask you, `Mr. Hutchinson, if we..... if we ask Mr. Bond to report back here the specifics,`.'wou-: that help the problem? Mr. Hutchinson.: Partially. The only problem is the. immediacy, particulary in, the. case.. of Mr. Kierson. Mr. Kierson was terminated June-7th, I believe, and'it's quite clear, at least unanimously by the members of the Culmer community that this,man did not, he did no:t,have a full and a fair hearing with. respect`, to his termination.: Now, if we can get some.; kind 'of immediacy, i.e. this: Commission indicating that he would be awarded' backpa.y, attorny fees, etc., I".think-;`that might satisfy him.as°far.; as that roblem. FatherI'd rather, do it this way. suppose you make a cursory study of this matter' a meeting, you know, report'back to us. Mr Mayor Father Gibson: better way. Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you this to our attention. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Bond will see you on the 27th on this item. Mr. Hutchinson for bringing 31. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER cocorUT GROVE SAILING TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT: CLUB Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on item number...we'll be on item number 6 in a moment. But these gentlemen have been waiting. Where's,,.what item is the sailing club? All right, we'll pick item 22. That isn't it. 26. All right, 26. Authorizing the Manager to enter into a lease agreement •7ith the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. City Manager recommends. Mr Manager, we are now on item number 26. Mr. Crassie: I'm;going to.askthe Finance Director to, briefly outline the ,agreement that's in front.of you,'Mr, Mayori Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager before I'm ...go; ahead, I sorry. Mr. Gunderson: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, the agreement that you :.have ` before you has a term...an initial terms: of 5 years with an additional 15 years provided that the, Coconut Grove Sailing Club provides a plan of construction and a plan for financing. And that it's adequate in terms of the current City needs and the City Manager would have to approve it. The item of compensation within this agreement has a basic fee. It is computed on the 2 cent and 8 cent basis. That's title 2 cents for bottom land and the 8 cents for the up land. In this particular case, Coconut Grove would be assessed $19,700. A little over 108 Crn 1 0 in -Le $700 for that basic fee. Or it's the greater of,'.or` the ; amount of property tax ona per non-resident basis. That is the total property tax divided by the total residents of the City comes up to $112. For every non-resident that is, a user •of the facility, $112 would be assessed. So the greater of those 2 figures would be the amount of compensation they would pay. In the first instance, the basic rent would be a little over $19,700. In the case of the assessment for non-residents it would amount to slightly less than $25,000. So between those 2 figures, is the greater of. In the area of penalties if, and we have set out a schedule of quotas that they should meet over a 5 year period. They presently have 26G•of. their users who are residents of the City. The remaining people are non-resident users. For every percentage that they do not meet,and it's set out in 5,years , 26 % would be the first year. That's the current quota. That's what they have. The next yearit would jump to, 30%. The following to 35 and the 5th year it would be 40% and 40% thereafter. So that would mean that the majority of their users ,even after meeting .that 'quota, would still be non-residents. But they would have to improve their mixture over that period of time with City residents'.''0i if they didn.'t meet those quotas they would be assessed,a;` penalty of 20% of $112, or roughly $22.40 for each member in the club. Mr. .Plummer: Mr. Gunderson, you know, 1 love.my: City an I love. my City facility to be used by City people. The ever present danger that I> see, and'. somebody has to answer quickly for me or I'm going to get ',`blown out of this chair, aren't: we tantamount to inviting the County to reverse .the. situation? I don't think that there's anything in the County presently that says..you have to be a County resident. or non city resident to use:Pelican-Harbor. Or to use.the beaches orto use..you know w..what are we trying to accomplish? you .know, ifirst and foremost, we feel that they're using City land and the City should be compensated.. Now when you, go beyond that, I` have a problem. You know, I don't. pay to take my kids to Crandon. Park. Mrs. Gordon: You pay as anybody else. Plummer: 27%, Rose. Mr.. taxes, J.L. Plummer, ust,,;the ;same. Mayor Ferre: Yes you` -do, you pay County taxes. Mrs. Gordon: You don pay any less County;; tax. Mayor Ferre: See, a County facility J.L. , if I understood your point, we all pay ..City._ -of Miami'; residents pay County taxes. We're entitled to,use-County facilities. Somebody... somebody" that lives in: Coral Gables isn"t paying 1 red cent to the City of Miami. That's a different matter. Mayor Ferre: Or people on Miami Beach or the outlying area. That's a completely different thing. And I think they ought to pay their fair share. No question about it. Mrs. Gordon: I have 1 objection and thatis the length the lease. I find that we're locking ourselves in. And like to ask if there is any escalation in here? Mr. ?Gunderson: The escalation; as ;far- as the term goes,, the initial period is 5 years.,.' Mrs. Gordon I"'m not about the dollars. talking ;`.about :the term, I!m talking • I'd 11 I IIII 1111111111101111 109 SFP 1 2 1974 ./,GUnderson: The escalationfle"“edto a greater of 2 factors again. One, is a 20% increase every 5 years or the cost of living, whichever is greater, Mrs Gordon: My problem is in leasing the public land for IOng periods of time. I have a verydistinct objection to that. Unless it's something that, you know, that we have put to the people for a vote. I feel that the length of term of 20 years that you have in here is entirely too long. Mr. Gunderson: Well, they need 20 years under certain circumstances of financing. They have a program now, and I'm sure that they will explain it to you as they progress, but the capitalization that they foresee is at least $250,000. Of that amount, they already have $160,000. They intend to raise the additional throueh additional membership assessments. They are now paying $120 for membership fee. But, in order to get the money as...from a bank or borrow it from some source, they would have to establish that they are going to be in existence for a length of time. Sufficiently long in order to amortize that debt. Mrs. Gordon: Well it says here that the first period is a 5 year period. Mr. Gunderson: Yes. Mrs. Gordon: That the e)(tension is basedupon the approval: of development plans. Mr. Gunderson: Yes. Mrs. Gordon: Why didn't you make it for 3 years to start with and then... Mr. Gunderson: 5 years is arbitrary. Mayoi -17rrd: Let me ask you this, Mr. Gunderson...Mr. Grassie, through you to Mr. Gunderson or whoever wants to answer it. We will be coming up in another few days, upon an ordinance the CiL, Charter which will have specific guidelines as to how the City can lease Cit.: property. Now, even though technically this is before that and we vote on it today. I thir ,:111 be dealing in bad faith if we didn't comply wiLn Lne peuViSiOS of that September 18th ordinance change. Does this do that? Mr . , Grassie: It has not gone through..•.eveiy.•.step..•::,that..-is---,•.•_:, providedfor in new proposed • drdinanCe..:•,..:..T.t.:1ii.-..,,:gori'.err,t1(7..igh some bi..tnem.but.not all of theM."...' — - • - --••• Nav ..• , „ • n . I —think, in other•..wordS,-,we•-•.:h40,:,:ts.O.,:,..go-:etiOtigt:i•-.: bidaccess, procedure, an Grassie:. 2 appraisals.. .11ayor.:t'erre - 2 appraisals. Mr. Grassie: And review by the Waterfront Mayor Ferre: Waterfront Board. Now, have we gone through those 4 things? Mr. Grassie: No, we have gone through the 1, which is review by the Waterfront Board. But... 110 Mayor Ferre: And they agree with this?, Mr. Gunderson t Mayor Ferrel they have They have what? Mr. Gunderson: They have some Mayor Ferre: some revisions recommendations .is Mr. Sawyer;:' here? for .k. revisions. u've been... Mr. Lacasae Are' those: recommendations. -included here?~ Mr. Gunderson: :No forth'in writing. they have, no o my . knowledge,. Mayor:Ferre: Mr.,Sawyer,•can we:.hear from you And identify yoursel.f,.,.please.rfName and title put them at this time? and; address. Mr. William Sawyer: Mr Mayor and Commissioners, I'mWilliam G. Sawyer, Chairman of the Miami Waterfront Board, which is duly appointed by this Commission. I don't want to ingress to much because we have specific questions. But would like... I' welcome this opportunity to address • the Commission on the workings in general of the Waterfront Board. And specifically, as pertains to the renewal of this lease. Iwould like to say at this time, it is the first time I_ have appeared before you, I personally as chairman, am' very happy with the makeup of the Board. I think we've got a good group of intelligent people who are concerned and are dedicated to working toward solving some of these problems that we are faced with on the waterfront` area. They are not all waterfront oriented people, we have some people that have no really marine expertise or marine background as such, but I think it's important we have diverse opinion. We have some people that are ecologist and don't want to see...probably much of anything done. ' .They are good to hear from too. We have some people that wart things to be done but they are very strong voices against the way they should be done. This I am trying to indicate to you, forms a very good balance for this Board. And I':;mention this becausein presenting you, or bringing to you recommendations and decisions of this Board, I want you to know that because of this balance, just about every aspect and diverse opinion has taken place within that Board before Lake a decision and bring it to you. We try to cover the whole. spectrum. Now, lets get down to the lease. Lets set some background for the lease. These lease negotiations, specifically as pertains to Coconut Grove Sailing Club, have been going on for something in the order of 10 years. They have been operating on the basis of a $1.00 a year lease for all the time they have been in existence up until now. Well,`_ this sounds like it's a give away. But in effect, and this is a very valid point I want you to consider when you're talking about how much money should we get from this entity. This facility on City owned property. That is not exactly so, ladies and gentlemen. Because these people in the normal course of their operation over the years, had made capital expenditures,capital improvements. Some of them on the order; of $15,000 and $20,000 a year. They are now, this a very valid point as far as Coconut Grove is concerned, because they are on the verge of making a capital improvement to the tune of some $200,000, which is what I'm saying to you even though this lease has been $1.00 a year, they have been improving facility which in effect, if the City of Miami says no more. We are not going to renew this lease, the City of Miami will have benefited to a great extent in many, many dollars for their investment in capital improvements on these properties. So, it has not been on the basis of a $1.00 a year. And from this point forward, if this lease is renewed 111 SEP 1 �y79 they are going into a capital improvement of 200 to $250,000 facility. These things have to be taken into consideration_ and balanced when there is consider given to how much shall we charge for this. That's one of the things. The other thing is, I know you are aware that the benefit that this facility, this institution, the dedicated people that run it, are to the City of Miami, their sailing program, their educational program in waterfront activities to the public, are not just renowned in this country, they are internationally renowned. I happen to be a member of some international sailing organizations, and I can attest to the fact that the high regard that the Coconut Grove Sailing Club program is held. All of these things have to be taken into consideration when it's decided, what shall be charge for this property. We have to also take into consideration, the fact that the fostering, the support, the sustaining of boating interest in boating activities is a very strong factor in our local economy. We are talking about something in the order of 100 to $200,000,000 per annum. The input is derived from boating activities in this area. We have to understand again, on balance, that the support, the subsidy of these facilities though they are on Miami waterfront properties has accrued in contributions and benefits, that have to be taken into consideration over and above direct tax revenue dollar sense. With those things in mind, the Waterfront Board made a unanimous recommendation on 4 items. We understood your will. Thatyou, this being a City of Miami facility wanted to encourage the citizens of Miami to use it. My personal opinion, this is somewhat arbitrary, in all our` hearings, our investigation, in no regard did we ever find that the rolls, the membership rolls of this club were in any way whatsoever closed. They are open to any and all that want to come and participate. The fact is that very few residents of the City of Miami came and asked to participate and apply. So they are faced with a problem. The City says, you shall maintain a greater percentage of your membership as residents of the City of Miami. What are they going to do if nobody presents themselves? This contract says, if you don't produce the City of Miami residents to become members of your activity, we are going to penalize you. And we mean penalize severly to the tune. of 20% assessment. Not on just the one that you can't produce that maybe should apply when there is an opening, but on your total membership. The Board, I particulary, found that objectionable. I, as a•matterof fact, I think it leaves a bad tase in my mouth. 0r it could certainly as regards to the members that will be affected in the Coconut Grove Sailing Club, as to saying, you will not have benefit or opportunity to be a member of this club because this organization is not living up to percentage requirements for the City of Miami. I think it can have repercussions as was related to by Mr. Plummer. We think there could be real problems there. Some more background on the lease negotiations... I want to bring all this to your attention because after this 1 we have 3 more coming. And the other people may have some more severe problems than Coconut Grove Sailing Club. And we have to give some credence in relations to these problems to be able to deal with them. Essentially, it was my feeling because these organizations have waited so long for lease renewals, all the time having in mind capital improvements, desire for building programs, they almost felt that they had to at this point, regardless of what the requirements were, regardles of what was asked of them in the specifications;of this lease, they almost felt that they had to comply. We've got to get this lease signed because if we don't, we are not going to have a lease to go into naval financing to do our capital improvement. Without it we are dead. So they have not, in this regard, in this respect, argued too much' about it. I'm saying to st 112 SEP131972 You, I: question how much negotiation has taken Place. think its been mote or less directed, this is what you should pay. This is what we say you must meet. :Mayor Ferre: Mr. -Sawyer`, in the interest of time, I know how, important this is, and we are very proud and greatful for the work you and your committee has done, I've listened to most of the things that you stated here. I would appreciate it now if you would sum up maybe in a 2 minute your recommendations, specifically. You know, telegram form, 1,2,3. Mr. Sawyer: All right. Specifically Coconut Grove Sailing Club will pay a base rental of $19,907 annually, as was recommended by staff. Not the, either or greater amount, as based on per capita tax assessnient. But only that 1 base rental amount. Mayor Ferre: Is that in our best interest? Mr. Sawyer Not monitarily so at this time. And is probably a differential of some 4 or 5,000 based now on the Percentages. of" Miami resident participants., Mayor Do accept that? Ferre: you Mr. Gunderson No. And "I'll ".tell you why. MayorF.erre come back to well then we'll come .back`: to you We' 11 You. ""Go on, that's . point number 1. Mr Sawyer Item number 2, that under subsection b:o,f Section:. 5, which: is o;n "page".5 of this contract, the percentage shall be changed to read, 26% the first:; year,. 30% the. second Year, .iand 35%".the.3rd and 4th years, and that part 2 of Suction 5 be eliminated. Mr. Saw—yci:: Well, we the...the a survey of movements and mirgrations within the;, City of Miaiui would have to be made to really 'substantiate it. But the trend has been the other . It appears that from the previous membership rolls •u:. .Ltli5='organization it's...the percentage of Miami resident participation is dropping rather than increasing. They aregoing to have to make 1 real big effort in order to create and produce increases in percentage of Miami resident participation. Because if they don't, they are going Lo lit: severely penalized monetarily under the will of the Commission and which is supported by your staff. But unfortunately. the trend has been away. The percentages are dropping. They have got to make a real concerted effort. Mayor. Ferre: Wewant them to. We want this to be a City of Miami facility for people in the City .,f Miami, mostly. Mr. Sawyer: We thought...the maximum percentage increase over that 5period, as recommend by staff was 40, we thought they Tea ..I1y needed some alleviation to get in it the first 5 years. So we...we gave them a little bit of a help for the first 5 years. After the 5 years, if they have not produced, if they have not improved those percentages of participation by Miami residents, then we have directed that the penalties as prescribed by the initial recommendations of staff, shallcome into effect. Mayor Ferre: Are these things that you are recommending... 113 SEP 131979 Mr. Sawyer: Yes.,. Mayor Ferre Mr. Sawyer: The Board, sir. Mayor Ferret This was voted upon by the Board. Mr. Sawyer: This was voted unanimously by.the Board. I should have differentiated. I trade some personal comments and opinions and I want to differentiate that from the Board's comments and opinions. Mayor Ferre: O.k I got..I got...second point. on. What's the next one? Mr. Sawyer: We also deem that in order to facilitate and aid in hopefully encouraging them in a concerted :effort'' to produce more participation by Miami residents, that no penalties be assessed during the first 5 years. The other recommendation initially staff were attempting to require this organization which is not a City facility, these are dedicated civic minded people, require them toreport every month on all of these problems with rolls and accounting, and so forth. I thought that was a bit too much, personally. The Board thought it was too much. So we have reduced the reporting period that they have to get in and go through all of these figures ...I don't know who would get the time to read them if they were submitted. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Sawyer, I don't mean to be rude to you, but why don't you get right to the point and then you could... Mr. Sawyer: We have reduced the reporting: period under contract terms that were recommend'from;3 every quarter 6 months, semi-annual. Mayor Ferre: 6 months. Mr. Sawyer: Right.-.In'order: tape this that and the other:". we made... Mayor Ferre: o eliminate some Those were .the, 4 the to o f t f e recommendations L've got 3. One was specify the$90,000 2 of section 5 be eliminated which or greater per capita tax basis. Well Mr. Su,:;e1: W was the either Mayor. Ferre: I have that. Eliminate part 2 section 5 Mr. 'Sawyer: That under Section b of Subsection. .'.of SeCtion 5 the. percentage be changed to read.26% the first year, 30% the second year, and 35% the third; year. Thst's2. All 'right, that no penalty...3, that _no. penalty. be' assessed; under the way they have it written during the first 5.years at all. Lets give them a break. Lets encourage them to` get 'some inembers in there from the City. of Miami Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Sawyer, what I asked you.•to:. do and let me see if I can do, it now, sum up. the 4.points that your Board has passed. One is specify "the''amount`to'' $90,000. Two is `eliminate part 2 of . Section "5.which`.• speaks to.. Mr. Sawyer: The same subject. Eliminating t greater ,amount Mayor Ferre: The third thing,in other, words: that has ,to do withthe non residency requirement. The third thing is penalties. Now what's the penalties on? Penalties for - what? 114 SEP 131979 is t Mr. Sawyer: The penalties are 20% of user members, if these percentages of Miami resident participation aren't met. If they don't tneet that they are, going to be assessed a penalty of 20% of $112 for each, and every member of that organization. We think that's oppressive. Mayor Ferre: All right, and the fourth thing was reporting . instead of every 3 months every 6 months. •- • •, . • - " '" - - - - -•• --,..-•::-.....-,•-•:,,-.•. - ... - .... ._-,.,. , •-. ,', --' .. -.. . - : ,,..--....- • -... , • .... - . _ • , ...., . , -.... . . . . . . .. . ,T .-. -,.. • . Mr.-: Sawyer: 6 EVery•-•'.'' 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' Nitinber.....-:-:1-::::-.'-thin --..rtum er.,-,:-., T..,is --•--the..:---.1iiii-:::::fOr..,•-using.,--thet kind' of-an,'...:....p.p:9..,4..o.....,..„i........,-.,..,.,-,-,..:,,.o...,,,,---,.....t...,..t....,..--.:--s..-.,.,. - '-:...-tliat,:.-the,:-.(.'•diteCtiOn. is to provide City-Hraafideriti.-'.„firet-....ChOiCe ...,..,-,.••,..._ ,....,.........•.• .....•.-.. --,.. ,•. '-;-:1.!;--1-:C151.WhcoiPia;iCei;y Ihaleesi,e residents,,.., .,.....,-,-- thee O-11:pottUinit; provide ajfiCiIlty.:.• Now, the real key is that they have a list, 1.:ther610,108. people waiting on their list. In that list, '..,-..--theYhaVe.-25 City residents waiting. Now, if you apply the frill:':-40%,-'the full 40% over 5 years, you will only increase .-..,„ -.,.. ilie.-,,,IttimbeT--of City residents by.45. And they, already have ,, ..-.---.....„K . -:---,...-„5,.,'f--,---1,t.,-;.-.0 in 5 years they're being asked to look for an additional 20. I don't think that. that is... ----.-.--..,.:--- -.-.:-.',-.,--.• ...•-••• ..... . Mayor Ferre: That's not onerous. Mr. Sawyer: Comment Mr: Mayor? I think we're looking. we're asking for people to play games in this thing. I think you are going to find, if this is instituted, not 11111111111111111111111111111 SEP 3 only just with this organization but with the Others. -that are coming up, you are going to find, people being 'What they are, they are going to get a City of Miami resident. come in there, make the application, then the guy that actually has the boat, he's going to say, how about letting me keep my boat under your application down there. That's exactly what I think is going to happen, to some extent. It could happen. Or the alternative would be that rather than fill that when a Miami resident comes up, we'll just leave it open instead of being penalized. We'll leave it open. Mayor Ferre: Can't prevent that. You know, the laws of this country say you can't smoke pot and use drugs and you look at what's going on around.nere. 'i'bat doesn't mean that anybody condones it, I'msaying if somebody wants to break the rules and regulation, that doesn't give us the right to waive them, you know... Mr. Sawyer: I fear that we're looking more' for;;; dollar revenues that really trying to foster and support, and sustain these people. I. say that because if we aren't, why don' t-we say to these people, lets give the City of Miami' residents a benefit. Lets give them a'lesser membership fee. Lets take 20 or 30 . or $40 off of theirs _, and charge other people.... outside residents more. L'd so fpr that. BUt then City - Miami is going;to lose revenue by that. Mayor Ferre: In...in effect, we're doing that in a:different formula which the ma...the administration is recommending that is more fair. My problem, Mr. Manager is this. I have before me, and I guess the Commission must have the same copy, of item number 26 and we have a divergence here of opinion between the administration and Mr. Sawyer and his group. The Commission has to eventually take a position on this. In addition, there are members of this Commission who hand additional disagreements and there mightbe others. I don't know. We haven't• yet heard from the membership. Mr. Grassier I would'. .I would _ like to'make; 3 points, Mr. Mayor. One, the document that you front of you has been signed by the club. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Gunderson: They ..no, o, ;',they were.... they made. their presentation before the Waterfront Board ,and said they . are ready and willingto sign this document.;:That s what they said. Mayor Ferrer not. Mrs. Gordon: But it has not been signed, Mr. Grassi e : Well. I stand corrected, Mr. Mayor." I had; understood that they said they would. Apparently;now that's not the case. Mayor Ferre: No, no, no, no. ;There `'s 2differentstatements now. One statement is is it signed? The answer.'is no There's another question, are you willing to sign it today? Mayor Ferrer 0.k.:`The chair will recognize, you atthis time. I think you are overdue. Thank you, Mr,'Sawyer. And 116 SEP 1 3 197Q if You could stayaround, we might come to a decision.on thia. Mr. John Srenuaut' To clear up Mr' Guuders°Pliscoinment Mayor Ferret Yes, sir* Your name and address for the record. „ Mr. Brennan: My name is John Brennan. Put an a in the middle there. I live up the street at 2336 Swanson. 'I'm the Commodore at Coconut Grove Sailing Club. To' coinment to •Mr. Gunderson, I told him that we had told the Waterfront Board that we are in a position where it appeared • there was little else to do. We were prepared to sign if we were really...if our feet were really pressed to the fire, But a great deal of time was expnded on this in a short period of 'time. I'd like te give you just a couple of minutes. I did have my secretary deliver, to each of the Commissioners, a letter saying where we objected. And we tried to present this to the Waterfront Board and these are whythey had tile points that you have before you. Just briefly, I'd like tP tell yom how vibrant this club really is. This past summer we taught sailing to over 125 children, 8 to 14. This summer in New Bedford, Mass. Ben Logray, a 16 year older from the sailing club won first prize in the United States Junior sailing.. That's a national contest, This IA very brief, by the way. Two boys from the sailing club won third place in the double handed in the same race. The Childrens World Team which sailed...which raced here in Bisc...no, I bog your pardon the Childrens World Team from the •United States was chosen to race at Pate a in Thiland this coming November. And 3 of the 5 children chosen from the United States were from Coconut Grove Sailing Club. In the Florida Girl's IODA Champion...Sailing Championship which is held here in Biscayne Bay, 2 girls from the Coconut Grove Sailing Club carried off first and second place. That's Florida state. In the Florida State Overall Optomist Dinghies, the...held also here in Biscayne Bay, Coconut Grove Sailing Club carried off first prize. We're talking about children by the way, not adults. In 4 out of the 10 other prizes, these children became heros and brought back their silver because yru, on the City Commission made it possible. Mayor Perre: Go ahead Mr. Sawyer...Mr. Brennan. r. Brennan: I'd like to thank Mr. Gunderson and his crew •for their time and effort during the negotiation. They were businc33 like, professional, and gentlemanly under a great deal of pressure. Because there has been a great deal of pressure even though we've had 10 years to go at it. We reached accord on nearly every issue. On the few that we did not agree, I as a tax payer, I understand why he wants more money for the City. I really dig that. But part of my interest is to protect the interest of the club. These things I think will bring the club near to its knees. The Sailing Club and the City staff have met on many occasions, O.k. Under paragraph 9, adjustment of location of the premises 22-28, cancellation by the City. The City reserves the right to take over the leased property. We object to the take over provision and we'd suggest the following. In the event of a cancellation of this lease by the City of Miami 117 SEP 1319a the City will not run a sailing or yacht club. Beg you pardon, Mr. Gunderson. This is something that came up at our board of director's meetings. This is brand new. Both the rest of these we've discussed. You heard the recommendation of the Waterfront Board. The Waterfront Board told you that we've been open for 33 years. Completely open membership. Mr. Gunderson pointed out to you we had 100 members on the waiting list. 25 of them come from the City. That's what our quota is. I mean this is what a natural situation has brought about. We don't know that we can change it. We're willing to try for the 35%. We think the 40 is high. Under paragraphs 9, 28, which provide that the City may realign, relocate, cancel, terminate, the club has no protection as it may regard its equity and investment in the leasehold improvements that. have been made. The only compensation that is provided is that the City will pay the unpaid balance of whatever mortgage we hold. The loss...the loss of the property at anytime during this period, leaves us without debt but without any sort of investment. If this were a business, we would be able to write it off one way or another. But we have no protection at all as far as at the end of 5 or 6 or 8 years being without a pieceof property when the City decides they want it. Now, I know that the City staff advised me that they had no plans to move in on our property for any reason. This was going to be a sailing club for along time. But 2 days after the statement was made, the Coastguard sent us a public notice saying that the Parks Department wanted to build a bridge across the leased property we're talking about which would take up probably 15 moorings where the bridge directly stands, and probably another 25 in a pathway we'd have to build through our mooring area. I don't have any objections to the City making its plans anyway they want, but this is an example, in spite of the fact that Mr. Gunderson mighthavehis... the City's best interest at heart, .,we don't know whose going to follow him or anyone else. Or -. whether '.Mr. 'Grassie may be replaced and someone else may decide that the whole area is going to be moved and we would be without funds. If you have any further questions, I think that'sno that's... yes, that's 4 iitems. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this quick question. I understand y.ou' want to build a new clubhouse. You re going to ;;involve: yourself with a lot offunds. O.k.- Are you'agreeable to pay a flat rental. And this is just speaking for J.L. now, I'n not ::speaking.. Mayor Ferre: A flat rental? Mr. Plummer: A flat rental at the end of a prescribe Mayor.Ferre:- No-prov.ision for.. Mr. Plummer:` The...the improvements City. Mr. Brennan: - -At the end of that 20 year, period? Mr. Plummer I'm asking ;wou"ld... would belong.to:t term.' Mr. Brennan: I...I don "'t'.see ;any, ,reason...you":have to remember that going. from -$1 00.to20 or $25,000 is kind„of a kick. And, we've kind' of worked .that -;out and; ,we've sort :.o:f accepted it. But yes, we're willing. to"pay a fla"t'rental' Mr. Plummer:`, Well now, old buddy, I'm not ';going' to argue the point about that dollar, that was to your advantage. 118 st SEP131979 Mr. Brennan: h don' on the sailing. Mr. Plummer: All right. You know, that was the fear you lived .in of living from month to month. What , I'm saying is, we're leasing City property. You see,I can live, I can. live' with' City residents. having a priority.; 0.k.? I can `live with that. And you have your memberhip and; you have a closed number of people who are on your membership and from there you establish a waiting list. And I can live with City residents being put in first priority. I can buy that. All right? Because in fact, they should have first priority. But you know, I just readbetween this thing here and you know,. I'm sorry because. I've said this so many times but I've yet to beproven wrong, they are writing a contract here which says;. you ain't going to make it no way, no how. Now, you know, I like contracts and maybe if I -wasa lawyer I would, think about stickler points a whole lot more But I:'ll.tell ;you. what I can live with, a 20 year contract, a flat fee, escalation every 5 years, and City residents having priority .on, any,;. if there is a Waiting list. I;don't ever want to deny City residents the right of first in City facilities. See, I could live with that. But when you start getting all these complicated formulas.°and:..man, "I tell you,; it's almost ..you know what. we are going to do? ` We're going to put 3 people on staff just to interpret whether or not you are living with it. Imagine what what we are going to payjust to. audit your books. I'm...I'msorry, I_ just ..1et me ask you Mr. = Gunderson, if bottom : line, that they I were to propose, if you come to the pay a flat $20,000 with a 5 year escalation renewal based on the cost of index, or whatever, at the end =of - the 20 years the improvements are ours and that. City residen,ts.....how much different really ram .I that what you are? How much... how much would that...you're. talking about a great deal of.. dollars? r. Gunuerson: If' dollars - were the only thrust of the whole contract, you're right. The dollars are not. The thrust. of the other portion of thecontract is to provide City, residents the '.priority'; and to make assurances that that will occur-.Underyour. proposal, what assurance do you"have that; that will occur? Mr. ;Plummer: Let me, you : presently have? askyou this. How many members ;_ Mr." Brennan: About 550. Mr. Plummer: 550? Mr. Prcir That's around it - Mr. Plumn►er: Doyou have a closed:.. are youclosed at 600 or 700? So, in other words, today if a City resident applies he would...unless for some other reason, he would not, be denied? Is that correct?" • That'"s true, ;We;'ve only .turned down and we made " th i s.:point -a few;; months ago, we've_ only turned ;down about.2 people itt :the: last 10,years that I:.'can.recall., And the reasons were rather valid. ,Plummer: So we're not denying; City residents anything. Mr. Brennan: Nobody. It's open house. 119 ist st Mrs' just Gordon: What.. what about the 108 waiting list I= heard. Who. told me that? Mr. Brennan`: Their all members,'Rose. Everyone of;them. Mrs. Gordon 108 waiting? Who told ,me that? Mr.:Gunderson: 108, I did. There are 108'.waiting. They are members;... Mr. Plummer: For moorings, not membership. Mr: Gunderson: But what': they, are looking "for...what the are looking for is wet or dry storage Mr. Plummer: No,but they are members. Mr. Gunderson:, can't Mr• not That's right. They are members hut they: Plummer: They. are -waiting fo;r a`;'slip�;for their boa to become` am '''ember, ,Rose. Mr. Gunderson: And these...and these costs are predicated upon that "te.rm,`'users, not members. See, we have...they have 289 users total. But they, have almost 600 members total. We'renot assessinganything for whose a -member, a non-residentHe can be a social member, he can be anything and there is no fee attached to them. The person that we are directing out attention to is a non re ident-' user of the City facility. Mrs. Gordon: They gave you a break- really Because: .I intended origilla1y when I said that, we ;should be charging the non-residents, >I really meant the „whole group. But their formula Mr. Brennan: We..we did... Mrs. M Gordon: Fair, fairer than mine could have been. Brennan: Yes, ._ma'a Mayor Feri.e: Lady and gentleman. We must move. It is now 10 vhi.tuLts. L'u 6. Father Gibson must leave at 6 as he told us this morning.- That means he's got 10 minutes here. And we've: got a tremendous amount of things, which obviously we. are not going to be able tocover. Now, as far as I'm concerned, we've heard from everybody but the Manager, who hall an hour ago wanted to make 3 points. Mr. Manager, would. you make your 3 points. Mr. Grassie: Well, I was wrong about the first point, Mr. Mayor, I had been lead: to understand that the thing was signed. The only 2 points that I wanted to make remaining, is that what this agreement intends to do is to carry out 2 philosophies 'or'.policies of the majority of this City Commission, as we understood them. One, is to get for the City a fair return on the use of public property. And that is a simplecalculation on a per square foot basis. But the second thing, and a much more difficult thing that we were trying to accomplish, is to provide an incentive for the club and to provide a monetary advantage for the citizens of Miami in using slips. In having a place to put his boat. Not in simply becoming a member of the club and going there for a beer, but in having a place to put his boat. So all of these complicated provisions really have to do with giving the citizen of Miami an advantage in putting his boat in the water. That's the prupose of the whole thing. 120 SEP 13 197Q Mrs. Gordon: You know, we're trying to increase our tax base in the City, and how in world are we going to encourage people to move back into the City unless they have some particular advantage in being a resident here. So, I have to go along with that approach. Mayor Ferre: All right, now. Mr. Grassie, I'll just speak for myself, and here's the way I feel. And Mr. Sawyer, Mr. Brennan, and the gentleman from the clubs, I'm going to go along with this agreement. I understand that you need a long term contract for your protection. I'm...I'm sorry that it is a an additional burden. I personally, don't think the $25,000 for than magnificent piece or property is such a bad deal. I also agree to the basic premise, that there has to be a strong City oriented incentive. We are the City of Miami. I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. We've got to protect our people, and our citizens. And yes, I want preferential treatment for citizens who are tax payers in Miami. That's the way it is. With regards to the other details, I agree with you on the...excuse me, Mr. Sawyer, on the reporting on 6 months. I accept that. The only other proviso that I would is that we comply with the lease provisions that are going to be voted on by the 18th. Because it's just going to...I think it's going to pass and I think we ought to really be complying now. So that we're really missing, what we're missing is an appraisal. Mr. Grassie: We can do that, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: And subject to that, I would be willing to vote on it when that comeSback. Or now, with that proviso that we leave that door open. How do you want us to proceed? Mr. Grassie: Well, if you would like, we can commission the 2 appraisals and we will agree with you that the document will not be signed until you see the appraisal and if the.,..if the appraisals do not support the document as it is now written, of course it would not be signed at all. Mayor Ferre: All right. And the other provisions we complied with, right? It's been a negotiated contract... Mr.'Grassie: Now, we have not put the property out to bid. Mayor I. Ferrel That's...I think this is a special circumstance Mr. Grassie: But they have been on the property for 30 years and you know, that doesn't seem like a reasonable requirement. Mayor Ferre: See, remember it said bid or neogitiated according to the Florida statutes, whatever it is. But you complied with that. Mr. Brennan: Mr. Mayor, you through...you passed the one of the... mayor Ferre; Father Gibson is leaving and I think you may, want his vote. O,k.? Mr. Brennan: Equity'for the building until the lease expires is a very serious concern. Mayor Ferre: Equity for the building? Mr. Brennan: If the City takes over the building in 5 years, we've got $150,000 in it, they pick up the mortgage, we have zero. i 5f 121 SEP 13 1919 Nr. Grassier There is a provision In the agreement, unless I'm wrongabout that too which says that if they do not get a renewal, they will get a prorata compensation on their mortgage. Mr. Brennan: Would you pass that on to Mr. Gunderson? Where is he? That is not so. But if you put that in there, we're happy summarily happy. Mrs. Gunderson: At what period What period of time? Mr. Grassie: At any.. in time,r. Grassie?,- Mr. Brennan: Until the lease expires, the City owns the building. Mrs. Gordon: You mean if your Is that what you are saying? Mr • B Beyond picking Mr.. rennan: rassie We11 maybe...I'm would` hop'e.. Then;: mortgage isn't' paid up. the mortgage.; sorry, maybe I didn'. Mayor Ferrer, Mr. Brennan, you're about to lose your whole thing, maybe, because you're going to lose 1 vote. I don't know which way Father is going. My advice to you, sir, is. that...he's about to walk out and you'd better stop... Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry., I misspoke myself.: What we would pick up is what remains on their mortgage.; that they would not have any remaining obligation. Now maybe `I°put that a littlebit differently but.. Mayor Mr. Ferre: Plummer: Mrs. Gordon: O.k. s that acceptable? What about their equity? What period of time are we taiking abou Mr. Grassie: But their :equity, ':-Mr..Mayor, , is something which remains with the City since they are building on public property, they do not have an equity. Mayor Ferre: Thatwe get. That's right. I hate to tell you don't : like that? Thenyou go build it on a private piece of property. You build it on a public piece of property and you lose your lease, we'll pay the mortgage but what vou got in there, that belongs to the people of Miami at that point. You know, that's the kind of a riskyou have to. take. M • Sawyer: (INAUDIBLE COMMENT) Mayor Ferrer Commission? Thank you, You, ▪ Sawyer. What.'s the will -of this Mrs. Gordon: I want a clarification, please. Mayor Ferrer Mrs Gordon Mrs. :Gordon: Mr. `Gunderson The escape, for:`. the.. City remove. . rescind the lease 'is at what period of time in cycle that you have laid out in the contract. Mr. Gunderson. It can occur state or city requirement. Mrs. Gordon: Anytime. anytime 122 if it: s a federal t h'e SEP 13MI Mrs. Gordon: O.k. All; -right. You ready? O.k..'.:`;Since the purpose. ofthis,, -in` the ;'first "place, `was to giv"e considera-tion to those:perso:ns who are residents"of the City of Miami, ;and `:for the second reason being "that our; budget needs the ,extra funds without a question of"doubt,""; because some of .you s"at;here*before,when`we had those people here for a"splitting'up of a very inadequate sum.- • of.Revenue Sharing funds, you can fully understand why we' are pressed to try to obtain every b"it of revenue that we possible -"can to supplement,what,we already Wave ...The refor;e;, for that reason and with the condition stated regarding the :es cape for the :City in; he event'that'the City sh`ould.. • ••r•equire t•h•e• use..f•or the •p•roperty, or the state."or federal ove rnment_, I would ino g. Gordon "moves," Mrs."Gordon: Approve' this,,; with'one modific"ation'. I would prefer that"the first initial per""iod be 3 years".inst,ead of 5 years. And -_'Mr. Gunderson .had no ,strong object on to th"at Mayor Ferre:Still Mrs .;. Gordon: But the first period would ..because then we have the option of;`:.examining your plans,. your development ..plans, etc. It would encourage to start your redevelopmeflt sooner. Mayor Ferre: ,second?' All right; Father Gibson: Second.' Mayor Ferre: Father. Gibson"seconds-. Further' discussion Call the rol"l. As' amended: The foliowing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption:, RESOLUTION NO.79-618 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACHED LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE COCONUT GROVE SAILING CLUB PROVIDING FOR THE LEASING OF CERTAIN DESCRIBED CITY OWNED SUBMERGED BAY BOTTOM LAND AND SHORE LAND FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS. THE CLUB MAY HAVE THIS LEASE EXTENDED AN ADDITIONAL 15 YEAR PERIOD UPON THE APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENTAL PLANS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND FINANCING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COCONUT GROVE SAILING CLUB FACILITY Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote:= NOES.:;: *Commissioner Rose Gordon **Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner Armando Lacasa Mayor,Maurice A. Ferre 11111 I1IIIII111■I11111 I III I III 123 SEP 131979 *Mrs. Gordon: O.k. I just want to clarify my personal position. I have not been in favor of long term leases'of public land to any private developers. However, this organization has been an occupant of this property for many, many years. And I don't consider it in exactly the. same frame as I would a new entity coming in and taking possession of a new parcel of public land. So for that reason, I'm going along with it. Mr. Plummer: I guess I have to revert to the wisdom Mel Reese, who said that nobody wants to buy apiece of property in hell, but if 'you have to buy get a -corner lot. (LAUGHTER) I -don't the deal but I` want to see them; have'the lease so that they can ,proceed for provide for their "membership.• Ihave to teach the administration, do you 'know the definition of kiss? Mr. Grassie: I know one definition, Commissioner. (LAUGHTER) **Mr. Plummer: K, I, S, S, keep it simple. I'll vote yes. Si AWARD BID: FURNITURE AND OFFICE EQUIPMENT -DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION UNTIL AFTEP. FY-79-00 BUDGET PROBLEMS ARE RESOLVED. Mayor Ferre: All right, he has to catch a plane. Go ahead, hurry up. You're 26? Mr. Cather: Item 29, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: All right, to ahead speak to it quickly. Furniture and office equipment, city wide, central stationary. Is there controversy on this? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, . have;,to' bring.upf a few; questions to clarify the record because they have been asked of'me and I;- think it should ..be , on' the record:.: There is 2 contentions Mr. Mayor ,i and l being...and I .have 'to' askthe question, that' there is, Mr. Grassie? Mr. Plumm�er.:Push old Freeulan out there in left field. That there is,,since the bids have gone out on this building, there havetbeen,developed tremendously energy saving light fixtures which we are not going to be using in this building or availing ourselves of. And it has been said to me that possibly that 30 to 40% saving could be if we used the new light fixtures rather than what we bid. Is there any truth to that? Mr. Grassier Commissioner, I have asked our Public Works Department to analyze that from a technical point of view. And I' believe that they are prepared with an answer. Let me check. Gordon: Mr... Mr. Plummer: There's one other congratulations. 124 Cather: Mr. Plummer...Mr. Plummer? Mr, Cather: That...we look into the possibility of using what they call a watt -miser II, Fluorescent tube, II :which `will e, fit into the existing fixtures which Navbeen ordered for the administration building. And which are presently being installed. And we have issued a, change. order ,` to, install the watt -miser II which will result .in substantial. savings to the City over the years, by the:use `of this more efficient fluorescent tube. Mr. Plummer: All right. The second point. Mr. Gr:as,sie it is said the City could piggy -back on t the presencontract II by Metropolitan Dade County and in effect, save a -.tremendous amount of money rather than bidding out ourselvesindividual'ly. Did we consider the piggy -back formula of,Metropolitan: Dade County in deriving that we could -.meet 'our needs base upon that which is already in existence. Mr.Grassie: Yes, we did, Commissioner, and.thePurchasing Agent is prepared to give you an answer on that question. • Mr. Plummer All I'm asking, yes the City didn't take advantage. speak. Mayor'`Ferre: no.. ,'.'It was said :th,a I don't need .him fo,; Mr. Grassie: Well,: we considered the possibility. answer is that it was not possible for us. Mr'. Plummer: Well, ``that's ... if you're saying that,I would hope that you could .furnish.me something in writing to: back'; it up so I can answer those questions. Other than that,' that's the only 2 questions... Mrs. Gordon: I have some very serious questions, on this item. N....mber one, :I want to know about, in fact, I'dslike to see this whole item''deferred and the reason being.. Mayor Frrr-. Mrs. Gordon moves that the item... Mrs. Gorh:,u: Wait ``a minute. Just a moment. Before I move Iwant ...:Plain. The monies that are being used, or are beinb �,bo-��1 to be used for the purchase of this material, as L understand it, is from F P and L funds which could be used in the General Fund. And I say this, I say that at times like this when many, many people are conserving every which way they can, every dollar they can, I don't know w..hy We have to go out and spend this kind of money for new equipmentandnew furniture when what we are actually doing is moving departments from one place to another. I know a Jot of families today that don't go out and buy new furniture when they, get a new house. They move their furniture from their old house into the new house. And as the money becomes' available, little by little, piece by piece they furnish it. I don't see why the City in times like this where our budget is so tight, could be so extravagant as to want to 600,016 in furniture and equipment. Then I question the sy1,000 to find out if it's even permissable to use that money from the Firefighting Fire Prevention and Rescue Facility Bond Fund. That I need to know as a separate question. Mr.:Grassie: That question has been, as I understand it Commissioner, researched several times in the last several Years. Both in the regard to the Police Bond Fund and also the ;Fire Bond Fund. And in all cases, the answer has been yes. That this kind of capital improvement with the life 125 SEP 131979 that we expect of furniture, certainly expense against that bond fund money. is a legitimate;. Mrs. Gordon: Furniture is a legitimate expense against bond fund? Mr. : Alvarez, do you agree 'on" that? the Mr. Plummer: All right,` you're asking', for it to be deferred? Gordon 'No, I'm going to get answers first. ...You say, a:%legitimate expenditure? Mrs. it's M Alvarez: think 'so. Mrs. Gordon O. k. Well,° I , say that this item be deferred, until after our budget Problems have been worked out because``if we need this money; h'm,going to suggest that we use ,_ this money for essential budget purposes. And that they, move - their�furniture .fr.om _their offices that they, have' now. I so Move. ' Mayor Ferre: A11 right, we this item be deferred. Plummer: Second.. Mr. MayorFerre: problems with move .into the Mrs. Gordon: have a motion on the floor that A11 right now, is' there any ,:problems. major that? ,Other than that.'you;won'-t:-'be .able�to new building? They can .move the furniture they've got.,` Mayor.Ferre O.k.?` All right, there's a deferral. discussion? Call the roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION NO.79-619 TO DEFER AGENDA ITEM NO.39 WAS INTRODUCED BY COMMISSIONER GORDON, AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, AND WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE AYES: NOES: None Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Further 33. ACCEPT PROPOSAL: JERRY'S INC. FOR OPERATION OF RESTAURANT AND CONCESSION AT COCONUT GROVE 1.A.11i11T10N CENTER Mayor Ferre: We're on item 25. Is there a second? Is there a second on item 25? Are they putting up... Mrs. Gordon: How many bids were there on this item? How many bids came in on this item? 126 t SEP 131979 Mr. ,Plummer: additional... Rose, 1 "both bids and there were Mr. Grassier 4. Mr Plummer: 4...3:more downstairs.._ Mrs. Gordon:., How many were ;;sent out. Mr'. Plummer: 151. Mrs. Gordon: And only 1responded? Mr. Plummer For both facilities. Mayor`Ferre': Is Jerry putting up the $10.0,000 bond? Mr,. "Plummer :. The same'. Grassie: Yes, sir. Mrs. Gordon: Putting up what?, Mr. .Plummer. $100,000 'bond,. $426,000 worth o.f improvements and I''m told : that they =Can be in. operation Mayor Ferre:. He's pretty serious... Mr. Plummer: Huh? Mayor;Fe"rret He's pretty what:<I want ,to,_hear Mr. Plummer:" $426,000 is pretty serious. Mayor Ferrel the roll. serious to. the point.. That All right,,,further discussion The. following „resolut`ion, was; introduced by Commissioner Plummer,'. ..Who moved.. its :adoption',: 'RESOLUTION NO. 79-620 A -RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE -CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL OF JERRY'S, INC. FOR OPERATION OF THE RESTAURANT AND CONCESSION STANDS AT THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of:the City .Clerk). Upon being ;seconded. by Commissioner Lacasa;, the resolution was passed.and:`adopted.by the following v.ote.: AYES Vine -Mayor .J. L. Plummer, „Jr. Commissio.ner:Arman.do. Lacasa Commissioner.Ros,e.Gordon. Mayor _'Maurice .'A. Ferre. NOES None ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev. Theodore' . Gibson;. 127 iSt SEP 13 iW9 34. PUBLIC HEARING: PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 1980 Mayor Ferre: All right, is there any other item where people are waiting or have...now we are on the budget hearing. Mr. Cosgrove, out of courtesy to you, sir, you are the Chairman of our Budget Review Committee and we will begin our budget process...public hearing with your statement. Mr. John Cosgrove: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, we don't have a final report to give today because the budget is still in, hearing and in process. What we do want the Commission to understand is the roll that the Budget Review Committee has been involved with this year. We have attended all of the budget hearings with the departments, we've had organizational meetings among ourselves, we've reviewed...I believe that this budget which you have before you now is about the 4th budget. that we have reviewed with all of the programs listed. We will be prepared as the budget hearings progress to make comments and recommendations on some of the substantive issues in the budget as well as comments on the procedure that the City Manager's Office has used and that the Department of Budget and Management have used. I want to state for the record that everything that we have requested from the City Manager's Office and from the Department of Budget and Management has been furnished to the committee. Nothing that we have been able to determine has been kept from us. Some information we even received before the City Commission received the information' because it was expeditious for up have that information so that we could move forward. My...my...when we look at this budget this year and someof the problems that we have would start out with a projected 8 to $12 , nn0 ,000 deficit and reminds me of my college fraternity cook said one time, you can't no more get what.. you ain't got and you can't come back from where you ain't been . ? .. _ that he wasn't a former City Manager, J.L. but that 01.11. ..pl.y is going to hold up in this budget. We can'' no more give what we ain't got. So the coinmittee is going to be prepared to make' some specific recommendations to the Commission on`some 'of the items in the budget. We have participated untold hours in reviewing the budget,and in meetiu, wick department heads and in meeting with the Budget and Management staff and in requesting voluminous materials and documents. Weare not satisfied at this point, that we are ready to make any recommendations on any specific line item in the budget. There are a lot of questions that. we still need to answer and that we need to be able to provide you. We do want the citizens of Miami to know that there is a functioning citizen board. There are 10 members appointed by the Commission. 2 members by each Commissioner and that., e are interested in receiving your views and in receiving your feeaback on the budget because I think it's going to put a lot of pressure on the Commissioners in their reviewing the budget if their citizen board that they appointed makes recommendations and findings of facts that are going to be recommended to the Commission for their review. So if anyone in the citizenry has any comments or any items that they would like to see discussed, then those comments should be directed to the Department of Budget and Management and to my attention as the Chairman. And we will see that it gets on the agenda for our committee review. If any of the 1,2S ern 1 'i 1979 Cotnmissioners have any questions on what our roll ;is,."or:. anything that they- want -`us".• to do, now would be the',atime.. t address it because time"is'`ofthe essence. Mr. Plummer: John, is your committee Federal Revenue Sharing? Mr. Cosgrove: We have not. Only...only has it affects •the entire budget. That it is .there. We have not ,analyzed' it. Mr., Plummer: Well the reason I'm bringing that, out, is .t fact that 6.something ,million dollars of Federal" Revenue is, in effect, going to the -general fund. Now, you. know, there is a proposal here`; today that we increase social: services which means something else has got to be.'decreas"ed' Nov,' you know, the biggest is always the best target And that biggest and the best target is this particular case', is the transfer, to the General Fund. And`I think you should, your committee, become more familiar, with Federal Revenue Shar:ing,:.be:cause quite possibly, someone call get - a, mis-notion . and just ° start,,'attacking and throw everythinginto a tizzy. So "I. do feel`' that you should make. yourselfpretty-familiar Withwhat's: happening with that Federal Revenue. Sharing Because as' indicated here ;today, we are going:to .meet°,again - on-. the 25that,night , of September, just to address an; increase in the proposed social service area. "Sp,I"think. e Mr Cosgrove e'::11 be prepared. Mr. Plummer O.k. I wo.uld`even:`inviteyo.ur committee here 'on that:night .::` Mr Cosgro.ve:" s.Many` of the committee 'memb;ers, ;have ;:been. in attendance ' for ;all of . ahem..`. al"l of ,`:the hearings . And' some • of them .ar.e here 'today..,` T.>>.W Willard <Fair,, :I think, i`s the only one that's .wa's" able, to .t as'l.ong;. as I can. Mayor Ferre -..:Would you...would you °name " for .the "record, the others that were here so that we 11 _•have : a... Mr. Cosgrove the couuiiL.ee?. Mayor,Ferre: That were here today, or the other members That were here today Mr.. Cosgrove: Angel DePedro was here ear'lier;, Jack", Alfonso: and T. Willard Fair. The 4-of. US were here. today_; at, the"•.' scheduledtime Of -:2 30. Mayor<Fe-rre': -We ...we thank you for'. 2 hours...21/2 hours and I'm-- sorry. Mr. Cosgrove: If the are there the,.Commission to the committee? Mayor Ferre: l..I think you've covered it very well and I' think your participation in the remaining budget procedure is important. I think that we're obviously, if I can preceive what the mood of this Commission is from the department head hearings that we've had with regards to Police. and other expenditures, and with regards to the garbage collection, we're going to have to find additional revenues or a realignment of some of the expenditures, And 129 your : patience of waiving any further directions from SEP 131919 think it's going to be a difficult time. We all -,have- some' specific ideas,'at least :I do. And I,<think the restof" this Commission does as to where we want"to'end up and: we would like your help and guidance throughout the process Thank you. Mr. Plummer:. John, let me just`further comment. You know,; I know You, and I know you well and I ;:know,;,T. Willard. - I' would -hope that ycu could get... encourage your:, members;; to ,` be present at these hearings. It was said today, earlier,.' and I think': it's , something that bears repeating. You know, you and your committee 'basically ,look -at 'a .book, att a - lot , of figures and you try'to make those figures jive:. B;ut there's also another aspect to a budget and that's, a,: -humanized need, which you don't'really see until you.sit-in this Commission seat orin`these chambers and hear these people come here. Now; nobody_: has gottell a T. WillardFair or a John Cosgrove because you're here all 't,he time,- you;. know what goes on, you hear the plight of people. But a big difference between looking' at a set of.figures and. knowing what the real down bottom line is as to what the needs' are. So, I personally, would like to see as many. of„ your, members be exposed to those people who come and'`ta"1k` to us. .:Who come here before .these`. chambers and say to us, "I'm hungry, -I'm sick." And I think those things have to sink in: and>I just hope that your: members will be exposed to that. ,Maybe it will be a great insight for them. Mr. Cosgrove: Well:.'I think. :on behalf of the committee; .that:-' we'd be willing to put in as"much'time as the public wants;. to make. sure that everything gets a fair hearing. And;Were citizens like -the people sitting :out "in the audience,.; and like the too. , We=.don't� have.;.the "elected';. responsibility but we do...we have accepted.. the responsibility to ;do a job` on _behalf., of. our fellow 'citizens .and; I think :the people -:will ` commit ,the,.time." If that- means that' they t,want. -us to,::.have public hearings to invi a th`e public':to.participate in our process, .I as the chairman, have :no_objections ::'to anybody, attending any: of our meetings. Our meetings are open. Mayor Ferre John,';`°I...again want to thank you and your committee for, your tremendous patience. I know that you sat,` through ,many hours of hearings and I can tell you in 10 years of serving on this Commission, that I have served, don't know of a budget committee that has worked harder, niore diligent, has done a more thorough job and I want to tell you on behalf of everyone hear, of all the citizens of Miami we're greatful to you., T. Willard Fair, and the others that are • members of the...Jack Alfonso is not here, r don't think, tonight. But the other members of the committee, there's 10 of them, fo'r your diligence and your hard work. Thank you. Mr. Cosgrove: Thank you Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, we are now on the budget hearing and I might again say to the members of the public, that we have hada cramped' agenda, and I...I'm not trying to cast any, remarks to you or to the administration for the way this agenda; has been`structured, but I think it is patently ridiculous to have a presentation for something as important asFederal Revenue. Sharing and put half an hour down on the agenda. That's just absurd and that's why we're 21 hours behind time. All right, we're now on the budget, Mr. Grassie. MayorFerre: We'll introduce...we'll introduce this subject, Mr. Mayor and members of:the City Commission, by having Howard Gary review with you the highlights of the budget. a 130 ist SEP 131979 Mayor Ferret.` Mr'"Gary. How many members of the public want. to ` be`heard this, evening?. " Would >youraise; your hand? Again, 1, 2, 3, "4,;. 5", " we have 5` members of:' the public. :....Why...why.;don`'t.-we let them speak; first? Mr. Plummer: I have a feeling,, Mr. Mayor....Pet, you're"; -on theypoo:ls. What are you,, -on? The other -man- what are you : onsir? On the „pools?" Only~ the pools. 0.k ? ` Why'; do.n't you addressthat problem:andwe can-alleviate'the"problems of - thos"e who are in `at'tendance. Address that first. Mayor-, Ferre: p Mr. Plummer I; thought that'was the case. Everybody Annette 'Eisenberg ;is:a"swimmer. .She,'s a- floater. Mrs. Gordon If"somebody would please turnoff those pictures right now. Mr. Bond, would You turn -out -the lights? Mayor Ferre:. I'm getting a good sun tan., Annette.: Annette come on u but Mrs Annette Eisenberg:, I'm:not"going to' talk unless you listen to me. Where's Lacasa? 1'don't talk to'an einpty house. Mr." Plummer : Welcome home. ', Thank you.. I"don't.talkto 'an empty" 's Lacasa? Mrs.., Eisenberg: house'., Where Mr. Plummer: Lacasa can do for him. Mrs. Eisenberg:. Well, we'=11„ wait then. O.k. wasn't here at the time anyway. I':11 talk Mr..,Plummer: We have troubles with the "microphone :a yes, we do. When Annette comes up, we only need 50% volume. Mrs. ,'Eisenberg right, ..th'Y . Mr. P1uiinier: Mayor Ferro: is :.doing something that"no one "else,': Lacasa ain of the o respect. (LAUGHTER) Lacasa is standing There settling the Go _ ahead Dominican.Rep,ublic situation. Mrs. Eisenberg: My name. is Annette Eisenberg. 1180 N.E. 86th Street. It. was about exactly 5 years ago this month, when 4 ol you commissioners named the Annette Eisenberg Center r,n.: 1 <did not know at the time, that made me the custodian of the entire complex, but apparently it has. And it is my pleasure. So I'in here to talk about the Edison Pool and my concerns for keeping the pool open because in 1976, we voted $19,000 to heat the pool and to build a bulkhead It took until December 6 of 1977 for you people to got the first set of bids out. Those bids came in and were received but you accepted the lowest bidder who wasn't licensed. That was thrown out. 9 months later, you decided to put the bids out again and you awarded the bids to a plumbing contractor. And the plumbing contractor in Public Works, somehow infringed on somebody's patent rights. That took talent. And because of that the pool was closed 9 months and the heating system that was installed had to be pulled out. Now, I understand through the good graces of Community Development who always comes to our rescue, an additional amount of money has been allocated and that the pool will be heated and the bulkhead, 131 ,9�9 ist I understand, will be completed by December 1979 at a cost of $49,837. I only come to you with this, if you are going to heat the pool, which you have to because you... the citizens voted, most of the work is done, the contract has been let. This pool could act as a prototype. It will be the first pool in the City of Miami that is heated and can be used for olympic meets. I ask you, that if this is completed in December of 79, please do not close this pool. Please allow it to remain open to be used to show that there is a pool that is heated that is functional. Ani I would go so far as saying that I am concerned about the closing of any of the pools'in the City of Miami. There are very few recreational facilities for our children. We have a fantastic leisure program, we have a good Parks Director, we have good facilities. Don't close our parks. And above all, please do not close our pools. I speak specifically for Edison Pool because that will the only one heated in the City of Miami. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Pat Keller. Ms. Pat Keller: I'm Pat Keller,; President of the Allapattah Community Association. My address, 1437 N.W. 13 Terrace. Mr. Howard just clarified for me that the pools were not going to be closed, as such. But they are going to be open if if if if if if, if you're part of the group, if you have a lifeguard on your back that you bring into the pool and so on. Well, this is not an open pool. This would bean iffey pool that's only open iffey you have what they want. So, in effect, in my judgment the pools are going to be closed. With that thought in mind, we don't want our pools closed. There are many reasons why not. I'm going to explore only 2 or 3 or else we'd be here all night. Our children are the most important. The pools are a source of joy, health and well-being to our young people. Swimming gives them the exercise they need in our sedentary world. The neighborhood pools introduced them to the world of water in the days of gas shortage. Somebody was bringing this up to me, your young people can walk to the pools. We can't take the gas to bring them over to Crandon Park, Matheson Hammock. We want them to go to our City pools. In Allapattah we have many projects for the poor. Recently we had a killing in one of the projects. We must provide constructive activity for these young people and we have it in the form of our pools. Up until" now, these pools have been a source of constructive activity for the young people. Now you are proposing to take this activity from them. I'm very concerned for the handicapped. Mr. George Gavigan, the Chief of Rehabilitation at'the"VA Hospital, he points out to me that when the young ...whenthe patients are discharged from the VA, they are going 'to have no place to go swimming. Sure, if they joing a group, if they have a lifeguard on their back, they can go swimming No, in effect, the pool is closed to the handicapped. Other than the few that might come with a group or the...as I say come equipped with their lifeguard and all this type of business. If you remember, several years ago the residents made the point they did not want their parks turned over to Metro and one of the major reasons for this as that they did not want their pools closed in the winter time. Incidently, last year they closed Curtis, and"",theyclosed...the other one, Dixie in our immediate area during the month of January. If they are going. ..supposedly they are supposed to stagger the closing of these pools and they didn't do it. We didn't have any pools, in our area and I had to sneak into Holiday Inn where they promptly threw me out. Now, where I pay taxes in the. City of Miami, I expect to have a pool ist 132 V -, 13 1979 to swim in. I think another thing that we are not examining is the fact that our young people are the source of critne...the major source of crime, robbery and things of this nature. And if we're not going to see to it that our young people are occupied, they are going to be occupied elsewhere and probably in crime. The adults too are being deprived. I'm a member of the adult community and handicapped. And I consider tnyself deprived, quite frankly, 1'3.1 climb over the fence if I have to because I intend to swim my half mile a day. And lets not fool ourselves that we are going to hire lifeguards on'a part-time basis. You don't have a highly skilled man like a lifeguard and think that you are going to hire him on a transient basis. He can get all the jobs he wants and he doesn't have to work for the City of Miami for weekends or when the City of Miami gets around to it. Our lives and our kids lives are too important to leave to a transient lifeguard'. Therefore, from the standpoint of our young people, from the standpoint of we adults, the handicapped, we want our pools open all winter long with no restrictions, iffey we have a lifeguard on our back. Thank you very much. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. Mr. Howard, what is the saving by closing...the proposed closing.,How muc h is the saving? Mr. Al Howard: $1.55,000. Mr. Plummer: That's how many pools? Mr. Howard: 8. mr. Plummer: 8 pools. Mayor Ferre: You're only talking about 1 pool here, Mr. Plummet.: No, we're talking about more than 1 pool.. We're talking about 8 pools at a saving of closing the months proposed of 155,000. Mr. Howard: We're not really closing. The pools will be open for .roup and organizations... Mr. Plutniner: You're saying the savings is 155,000. All right, is there any charge made presently at the pools. Mr. Howard. YeL, there is. 25 cents for children and 50 cents for adults. 2,1r. iumnie r : What does that bring in during those months, if you ki.ow? Mr. Howard: It brings in about $30,000 a .year. Mr. Plummer: So what you're saying is that . the admission would have to be 5 times what it is presently to cover... so that -.;.:L11:1, be roughly $1.25 per kids and and $2.50 for adults? Mr. Howard: That still won't sustain it because the actual budget was about $400,000. We'd stillhave the managers at the pools but... ', • •,,.. .•.. • :••••••,And..-hoW..inanY days, how many inonths are you • . ,". proposing to close? ';`'• , •.• .•••• • .: 1st .133 SEP 1 3 1979 Mr Howard: In June, July and August 7 days a`. week. In`. September, April and May it will be open on weekends for public swimming. It would be closed in January or:' February for maintenance. The other months, it would-be' open to groups and organizations who would like to come::`. in to utilize our pools bringing their own lifeguards.`: The pool would be open for them. We would also Have: theraputic. swimming classes sponsored by the Recreation Department. Mr. Plummer: I..I...Mr. Mayor, I apologize. I I was not here the day that this was discussed. M Mr' Lacasa: ` : We saw it at the hearings. Plummer: No, I 'didn't see. (UNIDENTIFIED was not here.. SPEAKER MAKES COMMENT AWAY. FROM THE MICROPHONE) Mayor Ferre: Would you turn that around and speak; into the microphone. Mr. Howard, would you now move the microphone`;. and explain on the microphone what that chart means to the audience here. Mr. Howard: This indicates the number of bathers that we have at the pools during the 12 month period from 1976, 77, 78, 79 and this year. It indicates that between the 6 months in the summer, October through March, we really only have about an average of 22 people a day utilizing 8 pools. And the rest of the year, we an average of about 152 utilizing the pools. So, there's a big difference in the nunber of people coming in. And each year is actually pretty constant as to the number of people coming in to use the. facility. What we're recommending is during those months, the 6 month period, that we do not close, that we have the pool' available to groups, swiinming clubs, theraputic groups that would like to come in and use that pool .with 'a lifeguard. Our managers will be on duty at the pools. Mrs. Eisenberg: I` have 2 questions to ask Mr. Howard, we're friends. Number;1, what do we:do -to promote the" availability of our :pools? Whit will'it :'mean .`<to the employee. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Change the weather. Eisenberg:` Pardon me Mayor Ferre: Change the weather. and Mrs. Eisenberg: Just a minute. What do we do...you know,`:.. winter tourists come down, visitors come down..,:To them' it's warm. I don't think we do enough to promote our:.pool,s Of course, as I say, with Edison, after December :it will::be: heated. It should be kept open all the heated and we have: spent that $50,000, we. should.` promote the fact that it is available and it is heated. "And:::I.don't. think we do anything to really promote our,pools n. Mr. Howard: Edison will be treated as a, separate';pilot project if and when the heater...solar heating. unit goes:in. We do have the lifeguards that will go, there on a temporary basis, along with the manager. So .the pool will be open. That pool will be a little: bit;different=than the others if the solar heating system.is_completed. Mr. Plummer: 0.k. What is the total cost of the pools for the year?: f the operation,; 134 ist SO, 13)979 Mr. Howard:`:Approximately $400'000. Mr. `Plummers' And that's 8 pools? Mr. Howard: Yes. Mr. Plummer per pool. Mr. Howard: Mr Plummer: Mr. Howard: of the pool :,operation. • Roughly, you're` talking. about $50,000 Approximately. How much.of that, is salary.? Salary is about 90% of the ..no about 85% this Mayor Ferre: All right, are there other speakers on pool item that want to be heard? All right, proceed. Ms. Lydia Del Toro: °:.My name is Lydia Del Toro. My mailing address is 250 SW. 60th Avenue. I'm here today to represent the City of Miami personnel at our 8 pools who are to be laid off on October 1st this year. And citizen an.d`a tax payer, I object to the lay off of full time, qualified and experienced personnel et City pools. The lifeguards and cashiers to belaid off have made a career commitment with the City. Some withover years of service. They are highly; qualified personnel who are responsible for a Recreation :Department withan excellent safety and community service recordThe City should consider that employees to be laid off have an average of 7.6 years of service and are from minority groups. Therefore, setting minority participation in. City employment back considerably.Local government has a responsibility to citizens: and employees alike. A professional level must bemaintained in City sponsored programs. At a time when juvenile delinquency in on the rise, the City cannot afford to lay off employees who run. youth oriented programs. The City cannot afford to replace loyal, longtime, highly qualified employees with seasonal employees.'. Who is going to protect the City's interest and work toward maintaining the current level of safety and efficiency. Seasonal employees who would be replaced... who would replace permanent pool employees cannot compare to permanent employees who have a legitimate interest in maintaining a consistently professional level of performance. Swimming programs, such as the Tiny Tots, which teaches children ages 3 to 5 years old to swim will not have trained experienced instructors. When a pool manager is forced to work alone, without a cashier or a .lifeguard, he will not be able to adequately protect the public. The City is actually going to depend on groups using the pool to provide their own lifeguards. However, the City will still be liable for any accident which occur. One single law suit that the City had...correction, a single law suit showing that the City had laid off professicnal pool personnel and showing an injury or a drowning as a result, could cost the City much more than the salaries of the employees to be laid off. And lets rememeber that we cannot really place a price tag on a human life. The City should consider that the present energy crisis demands more activities close to the City tax payers homes. A program to improve and make better use of the City pools and park facilities is a much more reasonable proposition than laying off employees. Officials have often expressed pride in the City's nationally acclaimed Fire Department. Why don't we work toward a comparable reputation in our Parks and Recreation Department. We should consider solar heaters, expanded year round activities and 135 �L.P131979 increased promotion of those activities. The City should not consider merely turning its back on employees who have such a large investment in their jobs in terms of time and specialized education. And in front of you you have a list of the qualifications and experiences of all the pool personnel to be laid off on October 1st which I prepared with the assistance of the various City pools. Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you and you did a nice job. Mr. Lee Spaulding: My name is Lee Spaulding and I'll certainly say it's hard for me to follow the show of these ladies that have been ahead of me. I'm past President of the Homeowners Association in the Morningside Park area. The one time I could walk down that street, and out of 525 homes I could almost tell you everybody who lived in each block. I'd like to to know that we have hundreds of petitions here that say leave that pool open. People are really serious about wanting the pools to be open. And the way you get them open is more use, more advertising, and bring the cost down. I happen to work for an airline and the airlines have just found out that if you bring the price within reason and you advertise, people are waiting to get on an airplane. People will use that pool if you do the same thing. If you advertise that pool, let people know that it exists, and how nice they are, you'll have people flooding into them. I've been in Mr. Howard's office many times, I know he and Mr. Hagy have both seen me coming and I've griped an awful lot of them. One of the things that you can do with your figures is prove anything that you want. Their low figures in January and February don't show that that pool is closed during those 2 months. They are never open so that's a zero month that you are talking about there. If you heat that pool under someway, and Mrs. Eisenberg has the right idea on a solar heater in hers, if you heat that pool, advertise it, and get the winter visitors going to. those pools, I guarantee you'll get your usage up. In the 33 cabanas that we have at Morningside Park, they went for 5 years that 1 cabana was rented. I went to Mr. Howard, I said, if you refurbish .' those cabanas, our neighborhood association will take everyone of them. For 2 years, every cabana has been rented now. They refurbished them,. they are all rented. The neighborhood people use those pools. The 1 single question that I'd like to have somebody answer to me, is who is gnino to take the responsibility when you have somebody coming whose supposed to be a lifeguard and some child and some adult, as it halelen,d in the Coral Gables pool recently, drowns in that pool: Now, of you is going to take the responsibility for it becauc.. ! ---'' j,ave to face that. Thank you very much. Mayor Ferre: All right, are there any other speakers with regards to the pools? Yes, ma'am. Your name and address for the record please. Ms. Kan— t',F-*ling: My name is Karen Wittling. My address is 4011 Malaga Avenue, Coconut Grove. I want to speak as a tax payer. I have been to these public pools in the winter time and saw not 1 person there. No one except 3 employees doing nothing. There are pools open, heated ,'uuls for people to use, Dade South is 1. As a matter of fact, at 8 o'clock tonight I'll be coaching an adult swim team. I have 6 people. The cost is $12 a month. Next month I probably I won't have ever 3 people. There are not that many dedicated people in the winter time. The cost is outlandish to heat 1 of these pools. I think Dadp South last year was running, what.,..$1,800 a month and this year LLe :lust will be even higher. Certainly, I believe in swimming, I have 2, 1 I hope is going to be an olympic swimmer. I'm not against swimming. I think it's great. But to keep 8 pools open And heat 8 pools. Oh, as a tax payer, no way., Mayor Ferre: Thank you, ma'am. Any other statements? All right are there any other public stateinents that need to be said tonight by members of the public here? Mrs..Rockafellar. 136 SEF 13 1979 Mrs. Grace Rockafellar: Mr. Mayor , members of the Commission, I'm Grace Rockafellar. I live at 814 N.E. 71st Street. I'm President of the Northeast Miami Improvement and the Northeast Tax Payers Association. I'm appearing here tonight as a private citizen. There's 2-things I'd like to talk about. 1 minor and 1 major. Now the minor 1...I have heard you speak about Federal Revenue Sharing and Community Development funds. But in our area we haven't shared in anything and. we've been trying for a long time. Biscayne Boulevard is the gateway to Miami. Now we have a new proposed ordinance where they propose to put signs up, welcome to Miami. Until you get to 55th Street it looks like a desert and I was wondering if it's possible to set enough funds aside out of 1 of these Federal grants to beautify the Boulevard from 55th Street to 87th. Everybody out there would greatly appreciate it. The major item I want to talk about tonight is that I think the greatest service this City Commissioncouldrender to its citizens is safety. Mayor Ferre: What? Mrs. Rockafellar: Safety. People be safe in their homes and safe on the streests. Now we have a terrific Police Department. We know. We come from an area that appreciates our Police Department. But they are only human. They can only be in 1 place at 1 time. And, as these men retire, they are not replaced. Now when our City was about half the size it is now, we had 2, 300more police officers than we have now. And each year the crime goes up. We're known as the crime capital —of the world The drug capital. The crime is on the increase. The latest statistic shows that every major crime is going up and yet the people are frightened to death to be out. They don't go to the parks, they don't go...they wouldn't think of going out to a park and go swimming tonight, or at night or anything else. They are scared death. And I just hope that this budget, somehow, someway, if you have to trim any fat, make sure that you have safety come first. Because if you have'a City beautiful you have to have a safe city. And they., need equipment. I've had police officers tell me when we say why don't you do this, "we don't have the money to rent cars, we don't have the automobiles,;` we don't have the equipment, they don't have the officers." And we just hope that somewhere in this budget, and I'tn sure you will all'.do; your utmost that you can, to see that! that Police Department is well staffed and everybody in the City of Miami would appreciate it. And I thank you. Mrs. Gordon: May I ask youa question Mrs. Rockafellar? What is your preference if you had to choose to spend $1,800,000 for beefing up the Police Department with `about an additional 50 men and increasing the Fire Department by 1-additional rescue vehicle and manning it properly. And if that took the same amount of dollars $1,800,000, as we havesPt aside in reserve for Watson Island, what would be your Choice? Mrs. kockarel.lar: Well. I'm going to tell you Mrs. Gordon, you'v given me .- ;yard choice there because I think... Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Rockafellar,'let me interrupt you. What if 'I to tel1 you that we are going to be able to do both? Mrs.` Rockafellar: This is what I was going to say, she gave me a hard choice because we would not make a choice. We think that the Fire Department as well as the Police Department should be right up to snuff.' Believe me. I sat through a hearing at the Bayfront Auditorium, heard senior citizen after senior citizen come up and plead with you to keep the rescue squads going. That their lives depended on it. And I'm here for both of them believe me. So I'm glad I don't have to make a choice on that. ' were Mrs. Gordon: If you had to make one, what would you choose? Mrs. Rockafellar: Well, I would say, lets keep them both even. :We've got the best Fire Department, we've got the best Police Department 1 137 SEP 13 1979 lets give them, both departments, the manpower they need, and the money, they need to do the job. This is how`:I feel. Thank you very much. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Rockafellar. All right, this concludes the public portion then unless I see anybody else who wants to speak. Oh yes, Mr. Manes. Mr. Aaron Manes: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is Aaron J. Manes. I live at 860 N.E. 78th Street. I am a resident, homeowner, and buisnessman in our area. I'm also Vice -President of the Miami Northeast Improvement Association. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank each of you...and Father Gibson is not here, for your confidence in me in appointing me to the Planning Advisory Board. I guarantee you that I'll fulfill all of your hopes and needs there. Mayor Ferre: Well, we're very happy to do so. And I'm do a good job. Mr. Manes: Thank you very much, M Mayor Ferre: Thank you. ..Mayor. sure you'11 Mr. Maness But I'm here today speaking before you for:.. on;behalf of.. they have not asked me this year as they did last year, but`I have come on my own free will to ask that you all give a special consideration to maintaining the Police...the Police Depattmen, the Police budget, and making a directive of your Commission...of the City to improve this Police Department and its budget wherever possible. I live and work on Biscayne Boulevard and Mrs. Gordon knows the Boulevard area, but I operate a 24 hour business, and for us the police are the front line. Anytime we have any kind of an emergency, any type of crisis, we don't think about calling the Mayor in the middle of the night, or any of the Commissioners even though I'm sure you would be more than happy to help. We call the police. And what's been happening a little bit lately, we see a shortage of manpower, a shortage of availability of time and people to do extensive training. We are having problems in that we are having our calls responded to quickly, which is one of the prime directives of the Police Department, but sometimes with not quite the level of efficiency that we would like to see. Recently, we had a landlord tennant dispute and a police officer, who is normally stationed in the downtown shopping area came out and was not well aware of the way the police officer should properly handle that. And I feel this is a matter that could be solved by training. But the budget does not allow, I believe, the type of training necessary on Biscayne Boulevard. Especially my section. We, have problems with prostitutes and prostitution and moral crimes, in general. And what's happening here is not a matter of the police not wanting to enforce the law, a lot of the problems are in the court but we find that many times what's happening is ordinary motorcycle, policemen, accident units, people that are not trained properly in making prostitution and moral type arrests, are doing this and these cases are being thrown out in courts which is...in the courts which is a waste of the police time and energy, and tax payers money. And I feel that if a more...a directive...directive is issued to put more emphasis on training....our Fire Department did not get to be number 1 by just putting out fires quicker. 50 cents or more than 50% of each dollar taken in is spent on prevention and the same thing can apply to the Police Department. The Crime Prevention unit is out almost...not necessarily daily, but I had Officer Fitzgerald out informing me that we were going to be having meetings in my area. The Crime Prevention Unit is working on bringing display items, working with-ay...our Improvement Association and other associations like ours, and the proper training of each police officer to handle the various needs of the community is imperative. And I would like to make sure that the Commission keeps in mind that training and prevention is just as important with the Police Department as it is with the Fire Department and that you please give the Police Department your full cooperation and backing on their budget matters. Thank you very much. 138 1st SEP 131979 congratulate you on a very good,, presentation.'. Mrs. Gordon., Allan, congratulate. Board was"my'pleasur'e to...move your appointment to the Planning Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Ongie, since..I was absent this morning whena so:,.fores. was appointed, I'd like` the record to show that.I am voting Mr. Manes'. appointment. Mayor Ferre: And let the record show the same thing for me. All right now... oh, I remember you. Mr. Joel Jaffer:. My nameI live at 3268 Mary Street. is Joel,Jaffer, fI arrived Street lighting is my concerfl this evening. Unfortunately,,- 10 minutes late for the County Commission meeting budget hearing and they... Mayor_ Ferre a busy fella. Mr. Jaffer And they went ahead and approved 8 street lighting taxation event, as youknow a. normal arc type In any street light puts out 7,000 candle powers worth of light. And a sodium vapor light uts out about times 4Wo0rksfora:thisWexpendituretis that rationale in the Department of Public we are getting 7 times the light for 5 times the cost in electricity. But I would submit that it's just not worth it and that perhaps the money being spent or being urged to be spent on the Police Deparment enforcement is the approach this problem instead of ' o these making life a o m lifespan.So,I would urge the Commission to start ou'mean ,you°honor them with your presence too. You're' in en h best way to lights f 1 t ore miserable for everyone And also,t have a very short downgradingthe street lights in the City back to the regular arc lights. Mrs. Gordon: Joel, that is a kinhOf a rrt that Sodiumehad vaportis being day that is being contemplated. To phase, itout phased out. Mayor Fevre: Do you haveany other questions?.... Mr..Mayor, and I'm sorry that"I have Mr Plummer• Let me.let,me..� = to askthis question' but I was not absent Mr. Grassie,,what is the present levelofuniform police? Numbers. Mr.,Grassie: In terms of numbers? Mayor Ferre508.... Mr. Grassie: 681 positions. Now, we do have vacancies. Mr.:,Plupmer:. 681?._`Excuse me? Mr. Grassie: We do'have'"vacancies. But that is the number of positions Mr:P,lummer:O.k. But .tho...it'sto be expected ;then that those' ' 'vacancies will be filled?- They are budgeted?' Mr. Grass 1c:`That is correct. And we actually have recruits training. Mr:'Pl.unmcr: We're budgeted. monies is provided for 681. Is that correct? Mr. Grassie That is correct. Mr. Plummer: Now, the next question` is, what were we 2 years ago? Mayon Ferre: We went through all that. Weren't you at that meeting? ist 139 c:P1n��34 Mr. Plummer No, I wasn't. I'm sorry. 705, Commissioner That why; I've got to ask. but I'd check that: Mr. Grassie: My recollection i8 +. Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you, J. L.,`I don't mean to,:be rude again,:, but I would strongly 'recotinlend"that' you,,, the Manager,.and the Police Chief: sit down -and go over the ' whole process.` Mr. Plummer Mayor, Ferre: Well, o.k. And I think you're entitled to that. want Mr. Plummer: I'll be happy to do that in Police and Fire 'because to know what it's going to take to bring these.2 forces: up .to:, full strength. And what else is going to have to give. So... Mayor Ferre: Chief...I...I think both of you...both the. Fire and the Police Chief, you and the Manager and Mr. Piumrner, should really sit down. I'm sorry but I think he's absolutely entitled and I think it's very , important that he get the benefit of the same thing we did. That you go through that process with him. Mrs. Gordon: Well, I was there and I didn't get a Mayor Ferre: Well, I think you should be there to should be invited. Mrs. want to ask... Mr..Grassie: We'd be happy to have a get both of your calendars together. 1 the answers o, if;you want.. wanted. You special session anytime that we can Mayor Ferre: Let...let all members of the Commission know, and if they.. want to go through it again, you know, whoever wants to be there., can be there. But it... Mrs. Gordon: Mayor` Ferre: You don't wantanymore questions now? Sure, go ahead. Go right ahead', at was:: the. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Brice, I just want to:- ask you ,1 question ': Wh number of officers you had in 1975? Mayor Ferre: Iri the Fire Department, what pageis that please? What, page? Chief BriceIn 1975 we had a total Fire Figiting Division of 577... Mayor Ferre: Mr. 104. Plummer What doyou have now?;( Chief Brier!: 535. Mrs. Gordon: Mayor number: of. "uniform, fire fighters 577 and now you have 535? Ferre: Would...wouldyou repeat that again? Mrs. Gnr'inn+ And that. .that includes the men that are: just entering,'> or are.guing to enter? Chief Brice: Yes, this is:Rescue and Fire Fighting Division.I y'ou. a giving 140 :t SEP 13 19/9 Mayor Ferre: Chief Brice: Chief, would you repeat those figures? Fire fighting was 577 in 1975. Now we have 535., you --re :down 42 men. Mr. Plummer: So Mrs. Gordon: But is it true that. by -the first of .the year you are` going to lose some more men? Chief Brice: Well; we...we will lose,through attrition, yes, vacancies will occur, yes. But... Mrs. Gordon:By retirement? How many? How many? Chief Brice:» rojection between.. Mrs. Gordon 25? Chief Brice: Normally,' we lose 30 a year. rdon:So, if. you lose another 30'you'11 then be down Mrs. Go amost 70 some odd.: 721 Chief Brice: You mean from 1975. Mrs. Gordon: Is it true that in 1975 we were classified by the e; insurance raters as number 1? Don't you think we have to beef up that level now? Mayor Ferre: He's already answered that. I would...I would be very. greatful if you would answer it again. Because that was other a verywhen strong and emphatic answer that both of you gave you explained that there were 5 ways that a class 1 department is classified. 0ne of which is personnel, and that in your opinion, because of the deployment and so on, why don't you repeat that statement. Chief Brice: I have prepared for the City Manager's review and then for your information, the questions that were asked on that particular question. Mrs. Gordon: I will meet again.with:you because we meeting again before ;we adopt the'; budget,: Mayor Ferre: Why...why' don't. you answer what I just asked you. Chief Brice: The question regarding ISO in 1975 when we rated class 1... we have to understand again, that ISO's rating is based onmay factors including the Fire Department, the water supply, the points iication, at and our fire inspection process. The loss of deficiency for manning was equal to 11 points out of a total possible loss of 1950 in the. Fire Department. to e going to be 141 SEP 13 1919 Our total loss of points in 1975 was 127 defic- iency points. We could lose up to 195 points and still be a Class 1 fire department so what we have is 60 some odd points that we could lose. Now the majority of our points that we lost in 1975 were in the area .of our training. facility and the maintenance of our apparatus. Inspections is a separate part of that, however, the inspections that we are now doing through our Fire Suppressions would go towards cutting down deficiencies so the point is, that the manning issue alone of the loss of 42 positions in my opinion would not change our rating, however, we did lose 42 positions, we are riding less. men on our engine companies today. Mrs. Gordon: Are there times where you don't use all the engines you would', use because you're short on manning? - .." • • Chief Brice: Well, we have one less engine than we did then but themahhing is basically six on aerials today and we ride ' five .On some engines-and:.foui: on some others. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but you have to put an engine out when you 'don't have enough manning, is that right? Chief Brice: There was a time, since ISO was here they recommended. that We, put an aerial in service in the western part of our City and, what we did was put Hose 2 out of service and turn it into an aerial truck and put it in the west end of the City to meet that requirement need to offset deficiency points and that truck sometimes is placed out of service. . Mrs. Gordon: That's right, and what about the vacation. time andotlieftimie off men generally would have, do they get it as freely as they wouldyou were fully staffed? Chief Brice: The vacation schedule is planned . at the . first of ,the year and yes, they get their vacations. • , , Mrs. Gordon: What about non -planned leave time, ycu'inow, they wantto:g7t ,, time off without planning at the first of the year. Chief Brice: Well no, the scheduled time is basically what we're .allowing. Now we do have an exchange of time policy so that if a man wanted to get off unexpectedly he could have another man relieve him. Mrs. Gordon: That would only be for emergencies though . Chief Brice: Well, it's done pretty much on a regular basis now. Mrs. Gordon: Okay, it evidences very, clearly that you are undermanned: Mayor Ferre: That's your opinion. Is it your opinion, Chief? Chief Brice: My response is that I believe because of manning ,alone the dif- ference in deficiency points would not cause us to 'change. rating.',- Mrs. Gordon: I didn't ask that question. Mayor Ferre: I did. Mrs. Gordon: I asked you if you were under manned and are the men suffering because you are under mcinned and are not getting all the Privileges they would be entitled to yet if you had the full compliment of men. Mayor Ferre: oh, you're talking about privileges now. Mrs. Gordon: I'rn talking about vacation time and any other leave time that they'd be entitled to. Chief Brice: Their vacations they're getting, they have the exchange of time policy, the earned time which is a portion of the contract, we are not allowing earned time on an unscheduled basis. 142 SEP 13 1979 Mrs. Gordon: That's what I meant. Okay, you answered it. Mayor Ferrer Chief,.I know this is a self-serving question but nevertheless since we're asking self-servinggUestions all ,the place we'd might as well continue that pattern. In,your professional judgement do you think that the Fire Department is in good fighting condition to service the needs of the City of Miami? Chief Brice: Yes. Mayor Ferre: Do you think that this Fire Department has ever been in a better condition, both equipment, men -wise to be able to respond to the pattern' that we're having includingarson and all the other things that you're getting info inspections? Chief Brice: I think because of 1975'when we beganto trim some down some in manpower we started looking at innovative ways in order to offset that situ- ation. In my opinion we are capable'Of delivering the same level of service at this point because of fire prevention activities and so forth. Mayor Ferre: In other words are you telling the public here that because of added equipment and the potential of.using computers and other management tools` that you have instituted and the other things that you are involved in doing that are progressive and inventive and new that we're probably every year render ing a better and better fire protection service to the people of this community? Chief Brice: I think we are responding to new needs in the fire service such as emergency medical which has become a demand and the fireprevention .activit- ies which we're a leader in the country and we are as' providing that scope of work beyond the traditional "fire suppression" in,a'fine way and as 'good as anybody in the country. Mayor Ferre: Chief, I have seen the industrial process in the manufacturing of glass, for example, or the manufacturingofcement change radically over the years. Sometimes the most unbelievable little inventions percipitate all types of savings in manpower and efficiency. One of the tragedies that I see in modern Ameri.cf, is that we're not really keeping up with that kind of a pace with the Germans and the Japanese, for example in those particular fields. I feel from what I've seen of the fire protection work that the City of Miami does that we're really not in a backward category but in a real progressive category. I think we're really moving forward into new areas and my question to you is do you foresee increased ;efficiency `as time goes along by the usage of modern techniques where' wewill be able to do more with better equipment and perhaps even less men? Chief Brice: Yes, I think we have to, look to modern technology. The ability that we now have, for instance, in apparatus and aerial trucks with the auto- matic nozzles so that we can use that nozzle from the ground rather than the ladder tip are the sort of things that you're talking about. We're looking constantly at new technology and trying to offset through technology the need and the loss of manpower. Mayor Ferre: Thank you. Mrs. Gordon: Chief, one more:: comment. When we spoke with you the other day at the workshop session, you admitted to the fact that the need for another rescue vehiul ,«al,,,ud, fully manned was a necessity in order to be able to accomodate th_-'.c_..clopments that are now taking place in the City of Miami. Are you telling us now that you've changed your mind since two days ago? Chief Brice: No, the Mayor was asking me about fire suppression capabilities and I was responding in that level. The budget shows that we need a rescue but we have because of the fact that in our meetings with the City Manager and with the st-.*f realized that this year the dollars weren't there. We began to look for ways in order to fill that vacuum and the utilization of an existing resource, i.e. the engine companies was a way to do that in a way that was proven through such systems as Jacksonville, for instance. Mrs. Gordon: But that is not the same thing, and we talked about that at the workshop too because you know and i know if the engine is responding to an emergency medical call and it is an accident and a man is down you don't know if that man has a knife in him or he's drunk. I mean until you men get there there is no way that you can tell. Consequently, if it is a critical case they've got to call for the emergency rescue van anyway. So, therefore, you're apt to lose a life in that period of time. 143 SEP 13 1919 Chief Brice: We have proven that there are in most cases the capabilities by our Fire dispatch people of screening calls and that is one of the reasons we felt that it was essential that the Fire Department have that particular service. By screening calls we are able to in most cases choose the non -life threatening type of situation and respond an engine and when there is a rescue needed we do call for it but those cases are not many. Mrs. Gordon: Okay, the only thing is the answer that you stated before was you have 535 men now and after the first of the year you anticipate a loss, of 30 additional positions so, therefore, you will down to something around 500, is that correct? Chief Brice: Assuming, yes, that we lose the attrition rate throughout the year, the whole budget year, that runs from October to October. Mrs. Gordon: It is my sincere desire that we transfer some of those Florida Power, and Light Funds into the GeneralrFund so that we can cover adequately the manpower we need for the Fire Department and the manpower we need for the Police Department. Mayor Ferre: How much doyou have in mind, Mrs. Gordon? Because if you're talking about 70 men in the Fire Department.... Mrs. Gordon: There is a lot of rnoney held aside for so-called "Other Uses" like the $600,000 more or less we talked about new furniture in the Adminis- tration Building which is money that could go into the General Fund and be used for Police and Fire and the Administration building could be furnished with the same equipment and the same desks and whatever they need that's in their present offices. That's another 600, there's a million and a half, there's a million and eight laying in the Watson Island Fund from one year, don't know how much is laying in there from the next year because I can't seem to get that answer. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon: Well, I'm not sure, being told to us. I. also want. to Mayor Ferre: Light. Funds? mean it's not there. couldget the figures that ou're not tellingher what's available in the Florida Mrs. Gordon:' We don't know exactly how much money has been set aside since the beginning ofthe Watson Island project which was 1977. Mayor Ferre: That information is all public information, it has been discussed here, not only should it be, it is. It is a matter of public record, you your- self have quoted the figures and if you want, amongst some of the research that we're doing I'd he happy to show you, give you the date, the time and the place that you have rrr tee those figures. Mrs. Gordon: There's a half a million dollars you said before, Mr. Grassie, that's coming in this year of 1979 and 80 from the FP & L, how much of that is going into the General Fund? Mr. Grassie: Just of that source. Mrs. Mr. Mr under 3.7, Commissioner, is going into the General;. Fund out Gordon: Is it 5,000,000 even or is it 5,000,000 plus? Grassie: 5.1. Gordon: Well, there's some more money'' there. Okay. Mayor Ferre: I just wantto makean editorial comment, it just seems so un- believable that ithas been so hard to get that information, Mr. Grassie, you were able to come up with it so quickly and poor Mrs. Gordon hasn't been able to get this for months and. months. Now are you sure you gave her all the inform- ation? Mr. Grassie: Probably about 30 times in the last two years, the figure with regard to Watson Is1and has not changed in that period of time. It was appro- priated that long ago, it has not changed, it is still there. Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else you think you don't have, Mrs. Gordon, that you don't have at this time? rt 144 SEP131979 Mrs. Gordon: Okay, would you put it on the record, how much is it? Mayor Ferre: Again for the 31st time, this You follow me.' Mr. Grassier Itis still 1.8 million, Commissioner. Mrs Gordon: 1.8 even. Mr. Plummer: is like voting 18 times for beer, Somehow I have the feeling I don't belong here.: Mayor Ferre: I -think you,do,`Plummer. Is there anything else,. Mrs Gordon; that you.have.been':denied, any, other information you want to know that you've; been denied thatyou want to put-onthe. record at.this time? Mayor, & week ago I requested a budget. . Mr. Joel Jaffer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Jaffer: I'd like to No, you're out of order. You're out "of order.: I'd like to be recognized, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: You're outof order right now, I'll,: recognize you later' on Joel: Are we through with this process now? Mrs Gordon warits to ask one more ques- tion. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, you've been nice and sarcastic, I really don't mind because I take it from where it's coming. But, if you would like me to furnish you with all the memorandums` that I have sent to your office which have not been answered I'll ask my aide to get those memorandums and put them on your desk. Okay? Even the one which asked you to place on this agenda today the straw ballot on the Watson Island question so that the people of the City of Miami can have an opportunity to express themselves as, to whether or not they wish to have their money spent in that manner or whether or not they would like to have that money used for essential services and you refused to put it on the regular agenda until I practically forced you the day before yesterday to place it on the supplemental agenda you did not do it. Mayor Any more editorial comments? bir.,Plummer:•No,t I have a question. I've been a good little boy and I haven't been sarcastic and 1 have been nice. I'd like to ask really the same questions of the ',Police Chief. Every question that was asked of the Fire Chief I want to`ask the same.of the Police. Basically it was my understanding that your full force at best was 705, as I see it you're down nearly 50 men, what do you feel is`the potential danger of that? What do you feel about bringing it back up to the 705? Is it affecting services? Basically, and I apologize be- cause I was not here the other day. Mr. Mayor, the only reason that I would ask these questions now rather than later is because you know I think at the conclusion that I am going to ask, whether or not I'm successful, that Mr. Gary and company be sent back to burn some midnight oil. Now you know if it is the same answers from the Police Chief that we heard from the Fire that's very little midnight oil but I think that the problem in the Police Department is a great deal different and I want the Chief's opinion. Basically you're undermanned, there's 3io question in my mind that you are and I want to tell you as I've stated time and time, I guess for nine straight years, I'm in my tenth,'before I neglect Police and Fire, the life giving services even though all other services are very important I'm going to cut everything else to the bone. Mr Mr. Plummer: Rose, the way 1 want. Mrs. Gordon: Would you cut Watson Island, J. L.? your bones the way you want and I'll cut my bones• asked you a question, you didn't answer, would you? Mr. Plummer: Well, let's address that after I hear his answers. I just feel that you know it ain't no big secret, I listen to a certain radio, I've been accused of going to bed with that radio and I do but I want to tell you that I think there is an acute shortage and I want to address that problem, I really do, and then, Mr. Mayor, I do have one other question that I want ad- dressed when we come back. Mayor Ferre: Go ahead. 145 SEP 14 1979 Mr. Plummer: Through you, Mr. Grassie, I would like to ask the same questions basically of the Police as was inquired of the Fire. Chief Kenneth 'Harms: Mn.Mayor and members of the Commission, my name record is Kenneth Harms, Chief of Police, City of Miami. Mr.Plummer: Your mailing address, please, Mr. Jaffer would -like Chief Harms: 400 N.W. 2nd Avenue, Miami, Florida. Commissioner Plummer, would ask your indulgence in response to your questions and have you perhaps restate them one at a time and what I would prefer to do, again with your, in- dulgence is respond to specific questions as they relate to manpower levels and questions of that type. Some of the questions that you asked of the Fire Chief, while I heard them and would very much like to be responsive to those questions call for value judgements and I think that that's appropriate as long as we recognize what they are. I think that the service level in any community is pretty much determined by the community that the public safety services serve and it is based on that expectation as compared to our perform- ance that they are satisfied or not satisfied. We have not taken a poll With- in the community to determine the service or the satisfaction with the service but based on a conversation we had the other day, Mr. Mayor, I understand that` you have some data in that regard. Now, if I may permit me to respond to •speci- fic questions relating to manpower. Mr. Plummer: Would your present level of budget as projected in this upcom- ing budget, do you feel that it is sufficient manpower to do the job of the needs of this City? Chief Harms: I don't of this City are.', want to hedge on you, but let's determine what .the needs' Mr. Plummer You know those. Chief Harms:` If we talk specifically in terms of the coverage.we'.ve provided in the°past and the coverage we're projected to provide with the proposed bud- get it's below that service level. During that time period, we're referring specifically to the last five years, the .calls.for service.have,.in fact; in creased and the available manpower has, in fact,decreased.;, Mr. Plummer: What do you feel would be adequate up to what this community expects and demands?` to Miring the level of service Chief Harms: I'm not really sure I can address that question in specific numn bers as you would like me to do as evidenced 'by the direction of your question, if we talk in tta..;s of the percentages of available manpower comparing today with what existed in the past I can again respond in a direct manner to those questions but if we talk in terms of community expectation we can tell you where the cl.th. we can tell you what the crime is and how it relates to population. rui er.ample, we discussed the other day at the first hearing the available manpower to downtown, the immediate downtown business community. They, in fact, have approximately 8.24% of the total reported crime and that's the total represented by the entire City and they have something slightly in excess of 18% of the available manpower. Isthat enough? That's again a very difficult question to respond to. If it doesn't meet the needs of the commun- ity then it's not enough. Now if we talked about enough to bring crime to a zero level then it's not nearly enough. Mr. Plummer: Chief, there is an accepted standard I'm sure by the Police Chief's Association that you shall have a policeman for so many. thousand people, am I correct, is there such a standard? Chief Harms: There is a standard but it's a subject of considerable' debate., We can tell you againwhat we have compared to perhaps other major communities.' across the country. Mr. Plummer: Let' Chief Harms: At the present time. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, you know I: hate to do this and I don't want to pro- test but it's a little unfair, we went through all of this and all this inform- ation and I would really recommend that you and the Chief get together. Here are the figures, I wrote them down, I'm sure he'll give them to you because I think we ought to do that. rt 146 SEP 13 79 Mr. Plummer: All right, I'll abide by your wishes. you later, Okay? Chief Harms Yes, sir.. Mr. Plummer:_' You can buy "me'` coffee. Okay? I'll meet with Mayor Ferre: Because I!ll.tell you we have a lot of children here and I'm thinking of trying to get this thing on about Day Care Centers so these kids can go home. Mr. Plummer: All right, Mr. Mayor, let me conclude. Mr. Grassie, I would like to know when we meet again that if we, the Commission, eliminate from your proposals that disposal service fee I wouldlike when you return, what has to give with the exception of Police, Fire and Sanitation, what has to give if we do not impose that. Now you know how much that figure is, you know how much you'd have to whack off of other budgets together with, Mr. Grassie, the request that I had the other day I want furnished to me a list of employees that. exceed $30,000, 35, 40 and 45 and I'll shut up. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: All right, now thisis a public hearing on the budget and by law we're required to have two public: hearings, this is the first, we'll have a second one. Mr. Jaffer, I haven'tforgotten about, I'll recognize .: you now for any other, public statement that you want to make with regards to the budget. Your name and address for the record. Mr. Jaffer: Joel Jaffer, 3268.As I%noticed in the agendapacket you all have to by resolution` set the date fox the 27th. Mr. Mayor, in, the primitive stages of this. City. and this country Indians thought nothing of giving, up their first born daughters to the leaders of the American government just for smalltrin- Mayor Ferre: Mr. Jaffer:' Yes. I would like, Mr. Mayor, just for,; my own personal souvenir of Miami. city government to have a copy. of, the. budget. before it is voted on. You know I'm helpless, you know I won't do anything to Mr' Grassie, we can't possibly stop the City, Mr. Mayor, all we want -is'. the numbers.` We want to see how` you're killing us. Ally right?. So please,';before;the next budget hearing could you please make available copies of the budget to the public? Please? Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you that.... Ladies and gen- tlemen, let me inform you that copies of the budget are available to members of the public, anybody who wants to the budget, would you°'on the record, Mr. Gary, tell us where the copies are, where they can be seen by members of the public and would you give them office hours and when anybody can come in to see it. Mr. Gary: There are four copies of the budget in the downtown public library ... r and our office is usually open from 8 to 12 midnight and they can come up and watch it ;there. Mayor Ferre: I7oula you tell us where your office is from 8 to 12 midnight? Mr. Gary:, 174`East Flagler Street, Room 902. Mrs. Gordon: Why don't you have a�budget'hers so people can get here without having to park their car downtown and spending money to: do it? . Mayor Ferree Are there copies of the budget here available at City.Hall,'. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: I'm not aware that anybody has asked for one and not received one,I know that Mr. Fannatto got one just a few minutes ago. Mayor Ferre:-.Who has asked for a copy of the budget that has not received it? You too, you haven't received one? Okay, who has not other than Mr. Jaffer? Mr. Jaffer always seems to be at the short end of things so I think you'd better make a copy of the budget available to him so he won't feel so cheated. All. right,:anything else on this public hearing? 147 _xt SEP 13109 Ms. Nidia Del Toro: My name is Nidia Del Toro, my mailing address is 250 S.W. 60th Avenue. I'd like to say, Mr. Mayor, I don't have all the facts but there was a drowning at Edison Pool last weekend and like I said all I know is it was a girl 12 years old, she cut the fence open, cut a hole in the fence and went in the pool, the water level in the pool was low as I understand it for some mechanical problem and she dove in the five foot level in the pool and hit the bottom and drowned and I just wanted to bring that up since nobody did and mention what can happen when there is no qualified lifeguard available supervising the pools. Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you for your statement. All right, this public hearing is now closed and we are now on Item #42 which is the 7:00 P.M. personal appearance of Raphael De Arazoza re the Day Care Centers. 35. DAY CARE CENTERS: RESTORE FULL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS, RESTRICT PARTICIPATION TO CITY OF MIAMI RESIDENTS, REQUEST MANAGER TO NOTIFY TEACHERS OF TODAYS ACTIONS. Mr. Raphael De Arazoza: For the record, the name again is Raphael De Arazoza. I reside at 1932 N.W. 18th Street, Miami, Florida. I appreciate the opportun- ity for being here tonight and address this situation. Mayor, let me ask you a question now, is the Commission fully acquainted with my letter dated August 2ath, I believe which I sent to your office in regards to this public hearing? Mayor Ferre: I don't know about the rest of this: Commission, they can speak for themselves. I don't have in my;posession anything other than a two page letter which was addressed to me on August 28th which begins, "My four year old son...",. is that.... Mr. De Arazoza: Yes, that'scorrect. Mayor Ferre: That's the only one that Mr. De Arazoza: Okay, that's the one that I<was'referring.:to.. Mayor, I will assume that the whole Commission. has read the contents "of this letter so I will go right ahead and try to be as brief as possible and I will get right down to the point. The main reason I'm here tonight, because frankly I was somewhat disturbed when I learned that there is something in the making that will affect the City of Miami -Day Centers. If I understand the situation cor- rectly one of the choices will be to replace existing qualified teaching per- sonnel at this particular center with no qualified or no teaching personnel. The second item that disturbs me is that there is also a possibility of due to the curtailment of the federal funds that the fees that the parents now pay will probably go up. First of all let me address the first issue, replacing teachers. I would like to point out to the Commission that the early age of these children, it is very important that they receive the proper education and I could stand here for about an hour and point out leading authorities in child development, that they do state that the early ages of children is very crucial and proper education should be administered. It is my opinion and I hope it is also shared by all the parents that are here that if you take these teachers away these qualified teachers, and you replace them with non -teaching personnel I think our children's education will suffer tremendously. By the same token, if you were to increase the fees what would happen to low income families? Then I'm assuming that if the fees are raised substantially some of the low income families that now pay only $7.50 a week, they might not be able to afford the service so they have nobody to turn to. That's basically what I wanted to cover on those two items. I am here tonight as a concerned father, I do care about my child's welfare and also the rest of the children that are here tonight. I would formally urge the City Commission on behalf of my little son Raphael and my wife Elizabeth to please continue this day care center as it currently exists. Do not replace any of the teachers. I am fully aware of the complexity of your position, I know you are constantly bombarded by troubles, problems and this is not the only problem that you have to deal with but please, I'am not asking far anything that will benefit directly any adults. I'm asking for something that will benefit our children. As the last point I would like to mention again that this is the International Year of the Child and please don't lead the people to believe that in the International Year of the Child this City Commission has neglected these tiny citizens. Please, I beg of you, if you want me I'll get down to my knees, do anything within your power to save this center. And again, as I promised I was going to be brief, I hope I have touched your hearts. I also understand 148 SEP 131979 there are additional speakers here tonight that would like to address this Commission. That concludes my presentation. Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Mr. Arazoza, for a very fine presentation and very well expressed thoughts. I would like to ask the administration to give the parents that are gathered here the benefit of the comments that were made to the Commission previously as to what itis;that you're proposing and how and why and answer the questions and then we'll get into the discussion of it. Mr. J. Bond: While Mr. Howard is getting-his:chart out, Mr. Mayor and Commis sioners, I think it is appropriate to indicate that this time last year the tables were somewhat reversed, although the room was filled with children and parents they were complaining about the quality of:the day care program. At this time at least they still want it - theyfdo.not want any changes as a Mat- ter of fact, I think that does speak well for the staff. Mayor Ferre: And for that I congratulate Mr. Al Howard and the other members of the staff. Mr. Bond: The chart that Al is going to discuss briefly,, is one that"; you have already seen but you might want to reflection now and' I hope we can position it so that some of the parents can seeiit. All it really speaks,to is the cost of the program. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Bond, during the budget hearings that we conducted earlier this week there was a detailed explanation of this chart and there were some comments about why the management; is recommending the cuts. What I would like to have is a very candid slow detailed ,clear with down. to earth langauge explan- ation to these people why you are recommending this so'they can have their day, in court and argue the point. Mr. Bond: Again, Al, this morning in the Herald; and I. think that many, of us. do read the Herald editorials, it was, pointed Out that the City.Day Care Pro gram should not take cuts. We only proposed it as an alternative because we are short of money this year and as. Mr. Howard will indicate to you it's all money. But we're being held responsible for family stability, we're told that the CETA Program is not functioning, we're saying that fees will double, that there will be lay-offs, this really is not true, none of that is true - none of it. There will be no lay-offs even if we do not fund the program to be self- sufficient, there may be cut -backs or reduced hours, there won't be lay-offs. The family stability, it's interesting that over 53% of the parents are single heads of hoUsehnlds. Mayor Ferre: How many? Mr. Bond: 53% of the parents in our program are single family heads of house- hold for which we cannot be held responsible. Over 30 people in our program are not,worb --r'rrr3ing`to our records, 20% which is actually one-third of one of our not residents of the City. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Bond: One-third of the population of one of our centers are not of the City. Mayor "Ferre Oh, o one center. residents Mr. BondI-Js, sir., 20% of the total enrollment approximately are not resi dents of the City. Mayor Mrs. Ferre: Thy total enrollment is'129." Gordon: ` .Whi ^": cono is that, Mr. Bond?, Mr. Bon Spread out, across the. board. Mrs. Gordon: Oh•, I thought you said one center.` Mr. Bond: Mayor Ferre: Quiet please. What the man said was.... Mr Bond: Which represents one-third of one of our centers.' Mayor Ferre: Yes, what he said was that in one of our centers one-third don't SEP 13 F9 149 rt live in the City and out of the total of 129 that is 20% of the total. Now did I hear you right? Mr. Bonds Mrs Gordon: Mayor . Ferre: Mrs. Gordo Mr. Bonds Mayor Ferre: That is. correct. Your enrollment is only 129 now at all of the locations?: Yes, n; Why is it down when there ;is a waiting list? . I'can '"t speak to that.... 147,.:I'm sorry. Mr. Bond: i think there's a total' of 147. Mrs. Gordon: Even at that the centers when ,they were constructed were to handle 60 children per center I believe and there's a fourth center'in Edison Little' River. Mr. Howard, would you speak to that, you were there when it began. Mr. Bond:, They were to handle approximately 45 I believe, Mrs. Gordon.. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Howard, would you tell me whether it was 45 or 60? Mr. Howard: Well, if you want to talk to Mr. Howard you talk to him. Mrs. Gordon; >_.45? .:Anne,' do ;you recall? The lady ;who . is the;; child; day ;care chairpersons since it's inception is here, Anne.Wilson and certainly has the answers. INAUDIBLE Mrs. Gordo STATEMENT FROM AUDIENCE. n: Soit would be 45? Okay, so the. Mr. Al Howard:, Mrs. Gordon: 5:so, therefore, we have There's: a maximum of 159 in the four centers. And we have an enrollment ;of'something less than that. Mr. Howard: 147. Mayor Ferre: ...That makes it 154 and we have 147 so what we can hold, is that correct? I was wrong, Anne According to the figures you just told me we can have therefore, 7 short so it isn't that drastic a thing ing list, that's not. what I'm talking about. I agree list much much larger. The question is.... Mrs. Gordon: .ioU potential. we are, therefore, 7 under , there are 147 people. 154 people. We are, There may be a wait - with you there's a waiting Mayor Ferre: What is the potential.... and what Anne"; said was 45 and 45, that's 90, 45 more is 135 and 24, is that correct? Now the way I add that it adds up to 159. Okay? Mrs. Gordon: Okay. Mayor Ferre: missing. herefore, since there's 147 I stand _corrected, there's l Mrs. Gordon: I wonder if it is short because we don't have the staff at the present time even with the level: of staffing we have. Is that correct? Mr. Howard: No, it's because you're starting the new year now really in Septem- ber and everybody hasn't registered at the centers and some of the people haven't shown up who have registered but there is a waiting list but there is only 147 students in the centers today. Mrs. Gordon: Isn't it true that over these years that we've been working and trying to keep these centers going each year we have the same struggle, every year the parents have to worry and worry? Why is it that other things, less important things are provided for in our budget each year and the people don't have to be tormented at the end of September of every single year?.... Do you want to answer it, Mr. Bond? 150 S E P 13 1979 Mr. Bond: I assume you intended that as a rhetorical question. Mrs.Gordon: I'm asking it because it is a lack of sensitivity on the part, of managementin this City Hall and the sensitivity is that children have never been given the samepriorities as other projects. (INAUDIBLE STATEMENT FROM AUDIENCE) Absolutely true. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Bond? Mr. Grassie: L don't know but if you are..'... Commissioner, whether you are looking for an answer Mayor Ferre:. Of course not, she' s not looking for an answer she's looking for naught. Mrs. Gordon: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie: ''Commissioner, the answer is relatively straight forward:. The City traditionally has provided services which to the best of its ability are available to the great majority of its citizens. There are some services, and for 'example our recreation program is an example of this type of service where we run special programs for special clientele groups of the elderly, groups., of children and these classes, very many because they do serve a spec- ial clientele do support themselves. Now what we're talking about in this partic- ular service is a service which is available to not more than 160 individuals in a city With a population of some 360,000 people. Because of that simply in equity in terms of treating the rest of the citizens of this city more or less equitably we have taken the approach not of eliminating the service but of ask- ing people to pay a reasonable fee for that service. Now when I say reasonable I'm talking about a fee which even at its increased rate will be one of the low- est fees anyplace in the City. Now that is the general approach not only behind this project and this program that is in front of you but also is exactly the kind of philosophy that you advocated and the one that we complied with as we approached the marinas and the boat clubs. It is exactly the same kind of philosophy where you have , -a special group receiving a special benefit and asking them to pay a reasonable cost for that benefit. Mrs. Gordon: Oh, Mr. Grassie, I'm ashamed that you would,, even compare a child to a boat'. I. am absolutely amazed at you. I. want to tell you something,' that comparison was one for thebooks, one for the books I'll She: give you an answer if you'll accept` it without any wants to ask a question and answer her own question obviously. Mr.'Grassie: You're.;the;one Mrs. Gordon: o, I never comp_,. Mr. Grassie: What we're talking about isa",question .of:whether citizens should be asked to support special services that are available to a small group. Now if you wish..... compared Mks: -Gordon: Gordon: Yore:;talking..,,... Mr. Grassie: Did I.interruptyou?.: I'm sorry. If you wanted: an.answer with regard to why the approach was_:;, that this -:project should be self-supporting that is the answer. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, your analysis is wrong. There are many families that are in the poor or near'poor financial category who have more than a single child who requires the care. Okay? There has been no consideration at all for that situation. A family with three would be three times the 17 or 18 or whatever it is that you have down there. You know this is what I'm talking about. You're not talking about families that have a single child necessarily and you're talk- ing about single family parents in 53% of the cases which makes it even more urgent than in a two parent family to have a facility available which is within the budget of that single parent to pay because there is only one wage earner there. In some cases I can imagine that some of those single parent families might even have to be on a welfare subsidy if they didn't have the opportunity to go out and work and you know, I don't know if I'm penetrating because you and I seem to have some sort of a shield between us, you never hear what I say, if I say it you think I'm being facetious or something. I am sincerely begging you to arrange for the money for the day care in the General Fund and to take that made the comparison, Commissioner.`;; a.: child .to.a boat. 151 SEP 131t1979 that money if necessary from the FP&L dollars that you have set aside, you've set aside a large sum of FP&L dollars to buy the furniture in that new adminis- tration building. and I asked you before to defer that item specifically so that we would have the opportunity to ask you now to transfer the necessary funds from that to the Day Care and put it into the General Fund. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, you know, hopefully without being repetitive. The basic point that seems to be escaping us is that if the City of Miami is in a position to offer the kind of service that you are suggesting which I think is am important service if it is in a position to offer that service to all of its citizens fairly and evenly. I think that is a reasonable posture for this City to take. If, on the other hand, you are only willing to offer that service to a very restricted group of your citizens which gets to be a special interest group in terms of the advantage that they derive as against other citizens in the community then it no longer is a reasonable position to take and that is the only point that I was making with you before. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, but that doesn't hold true because you compared it to boats and in the boat situation you also cannot accomodate all of those persons in the City of ,Miami who want to have their boat place out there because you don't have enough slips: so that doesn't hold water:`_ Mr. Grassie: That's why we're asking thein to pay why we're asking them to put up the money for it. Mrs. Gordon: But that's "a hobby, that's a different story, that's a recreational thing that they can have, or not have and they'll live just as well without it as they would with it. I don't want to argue with: -you because you know you're not going to make policy, we are and I'm going to move you that we take the nec- essary funds from the FP&L monies that were being reserved for furniture and. equipment in the Administration Building and move it into the General Fund for Day Care and that's a motion. Mayor Ferrer Mrs. Gordon, I'll recognize you now for the purposes of making a. motion which you're just made and I'll see if 'there is a second to that motion. Is there a second to the motion that Mrs'. Gordon made? Mrs. Gordon Lacasa's busy, he" talking to his secretary. Mayor Ferrer' Mr. Lacasa, Mrs. Gordon Mrs. Gordon: No, hear the motion. saysthat you're I just said that you're talking The motion .was.... not paying attention.' to your aide and'you`didn't Mr. Lacasa: I im and the motion,: Mrs. Gordon, 1 heard:you move that the'_funds. from the FPL he, taken from there and assigned to this, I heard your"motion. Mrs. Gordon: Yes,: co .the&General'Fund, right. Mayor Ferrer Is there a second to the motion? Mr. Plummer:" Mx. Mayor, I am not at a point right now to second the motion, I am and would; appreciate that the administration would provide to us the necess- ary figures to show that there are uncommitted unrestricted funds there avail- able for other uses. Once I have the facts before me I possibly will second the motion 11,1t 11n+-41 T have all the facts before me I cannot second the motion even though I feel, you know I've had some very strong thoughts in the past on Day Care but I think before we make any decisions, Mr. Mayor, and you know these people are here on only Day Care as the people this afternoon were here only on Federal Revenue Sharing and that was just as important to them as Day Care is to you and we had other people here today on pools. Now what I'm say- ing is the budget is a total picture and I think that what this Commission has to do is to take the whole picture in perspective and the only way we can do that is to have all.the facts and figures before us and at that time I would then be able,to.second the motion and vote one way or the other. So that's... Mayor Ferre All right. Mrs. Gordon: I would suggest.that:1 amend the motion.... Mayor Ferre: "If I may. Mrs. Gordon: I want to amend the motion..... 152 SEP 13 1979 Mayor Ferre: You don't want to let me second your motion, is that it? All right, go ahead and amend your motion, Mrs. Gordon. Mrs. Gordon: That the funds be found and that it be put into the General Fund and that Day Care be funded. That leaves the Manager the prerogative of taking it from wherever and putting it in the General Fund. Mayor Ferret That's a little bit better. All right, let me express my opinion since I have listened and have not said a word and before I... Mr. Bond, I'm going to ask you some questions if you would get on that microphone. And Mr. Howard, would you stand there too so you can answer so I understand the whole picture. We have, Mr. Howard, 147 children in the program. They represent for the most part children whose parents live in the City of Miami. There are about 30 of them who do not live in the City and 117 who do live in the City. Now as I recall the figures, and I want just for the record to under- stand them, there are BO some odd children who have either a brother or a sis- ter or more in the program, would you give me the exact figure? Mr. Bond: Let me count them up right here, sir. Mayor Ferre: How many parents have 2 and 3 and are there any oarents that have more than 3 children in the program? INAUDIBLE Mayor Ferre: Yes, I just want to we understand. You have 4, Okay. actually being serviced out of the of Miami by this program. You had k S so..that .now, now, Iitist want to get the- faCt I just want to know how many parents are total 368,000 people that live in the City the figures the other day, Al. _ . Mr. Grassie: How many parents are there all together? Mayor Ferre: That's another way to ask it, how many parents are actually on Mr. Howard: There are 20 faMilies with 2 children and -5-with-3 Mayor Ferre: All right, tell " that again . There are (:) families with 2 Mr. BOnd,.:20-with-,2:,arid'I have 5 with 3 that 1 can see in this list. , , ,.• Mayor': Ferre:Fivewith 3 and there's 4 • . ;. . . „ UNINTELLIGIBLE CONVERSATION'.:: Mr. Plunurter: What. 'she's: are some families with 4. , Mayor Ferre: Well Okay, I would like to have those figures if for no other reason just for the record so that we know whether we're servicing 50 or 60 families in this community and I also want to know the exact number of non - City residents, you said there were about 30, right? Mr. Bond: Approximately. Mayor Ferre: And you also said that we were spending about $3,000 per child. In the case of a family of 4, therefore, we're spending $12,000 per family. Now, what I want to know is what the average is for all of the Day Care Centers in Dade County, Mr. Bond. That's the bottom line, that's where I'm going. Mr. Bond: The cost in Dade County, sir? Mayor Ferre: 1 want to know what the average is in Dade County for quality type Day Care Centers other than the City of Miami's program that services 70 families or 80 families or whatever it is. Mr. Bond: I don't have the figure of what the actual cost is, I do have a fig- ure on a survey that we took recently as to cost per family but I don't have the total overall cost. It's costing the families approximately $22.18, this is based on a survey...... 153 rt SEP 1 3 1979 Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you where I'm at. I want for the City of Miami to continue it's Day Care Program. I want it to be whatever the average is, I want it to be better than the average. Okay? I want it to be ahead, above the average but I don't want it to be 50% or 100% over the average. Okay? And that's what I want to vote for and I want to vote to continue the program and I want it to be a quality program, I want it to be better than the Dade County Program and that's where we're headed under those circumstances if you follow where I'm going on the average aspect of it. With those conditions then I have no problems seconding the motion if•you accept those conditions, Rose. Mrs. Gordon: What conditions, I didn't hear any conditions. You asked for questions to be answered for your edification. Mayor Ferre: I said I will second it with those conditions if you want t accept those.... quality above average, positively,accept that, why not Mrs. Gordon: A I that's marvelous. Mayor Ferre: I said, and I' will repeat it so that we don't=.play; games around here. I am for taking an average of Metropolitan Dade County quality centers and remaining above, slightly above that, a relative amount, not 50%, not 100% above. Mr Gordon:r re you talking about quality or fees? Mayor Ferre:; I'm talking aboutwhat`we have in Metropolitan is classified as quality day care centers.. Dade County which Mrs. Gordon:`- Oh that's fine, -I,didn't understand you,' raise the fees above the average 'of Dade County.' Mayor Ferre: No, I've got no problems :about.. the fees,- I just don't, want to ,be spending $3,000 per. child when Metropolitan Dade County is: spending $1,;800,;per child. And what I'm saying ;;is I .don't, mind going to $2, 000 but I, am against going to $3,060 if that's not the average.`' If, that's what the average is then I've got no problem. I.. thought you wanted to Mrs. Gordon: See, there is another consideration and..that"is;`that that if set-; ting a budget that they count the fees the parents make and account the moneys that are received in grants when you really want to count is just what the City is spending from City funds, that's really all you really should be count ing.so`that's the way you should add it up, -Mr. Bond," when you're adding it up that's the way you should be adding it up - what it is costing from City dol lars not grant moneys and not fee moneys. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon, Mr. Grassie wasn't listening. Mr. Grassie, I want you to listen to this. Mrs. Gordon's motion was not in reference to Florida Power and Light, she amended that because she didn't get a second for that. She said that we instruct the City Manager to come up with the funds from wherever the funds come from, is that correct? Mrs. Gordon:" The motion is that you place this Day Care Program inthe general` budget and provide the funds from the suitable, most suitable source. Now that`'. leaves you the most suitable decision to make. Mayor Ferre: And I'm willing to second that motion provided, however, that the average expended by the City of Miami does not substantially go over the average of Day Care Centers in Dade County. Okay? So whatever the average is we can go up above that, I want to go above it, and you multiply that by the number of children that we have in the program. And I don't mind even includ- ing the expansion of the Program to include 12 more children. Mr. Plummer: You're recognized, sir. For the record, your name and mailing address. Mr. Gabriel Palmer: The name is Gabriel Palmeri live at 3502 S.W.26th Street. I am presently now the president for Shennandoah Day Care Center and of all the talk that we've been hearing like Mr. Bond said in the Miami Herald this morning you could see that they were going to replace the teachers with CETA employees. Mrs. Gordon: That's terrible. No. 154 SEP 131979 Mr. Palmer: Now I'm addressing all the Commissioners and the Mayor but I have a college degree, I have a bachelor's degree in Supervision and Manage- ment.. If you put me inside a day care center I wouldn't know where to start with the Tchildren. Now a CETA employee does not have.... Mr. Plummer:. Sir, there is an old addage that says quit while you're ahea All you can do from when you're winning is lose. Now if you have a point: ad- dressed to the motion, proceed. The motion is very clear and I would say to you if you have any new information to add to the motion proceed. Mrs. Gordon: J. L., what he's saying is that he doesn't want his child or any of the other children to be in the hands of an°inexperienced and untrained person like a CETA worker would be and I agree. Mr. Plummer: Okay? Mr. Palmer: Mr. Plummer: Mr. Palmer: Mr. Plummer: Rose, I. think that the motion is, quite clear above average. Commissioner, may I continue? If you wish, sir. Thank you. At your own risk. Mr. Palmer: No, my ownrisk was I said these words before the idea that I had before coming here. What I was going to say is that the City of Miami should be proud of the day care centers that they have right now. Istarted saying that to come to my point because when I put my kid in the day care centers I did a survey of about six or seven private nurseries and the one that came up with the best deals and the best teachers and the best education was the City of Miami Day Care Centers and right now if you wish, as President of Shenandoah I think I have the authority with the teachers to invite you and the Mayor to come to our school physically and see our program. Right now I'm inviting you all as friends, I don't want any arguments, any more fighting,' so you can physically see how these kids are being treated and what such "a wonder program those teachers are doing withthe day care center. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Palmer: Mayor Ferre: I've already done And .I hope that you were impressed. All right, Anne, you wanted to say something to u Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, :you're not running relax. Anne, love to recognize you the: meeting,; just sit back and Ms. Anne Wilson, 3710 Battersea; Road, City of Miami resident for 32 years. 1 to ,make: a point, I looked over there and saw Wanda Sleigh - ton who is Child Care Planner 'for ,Dade County;who has just recently done a sur- vey of child care in all of Dade County.' She might be able to answer your ques- tion on fees so I went and retrieved her:. and ;asked her to come over here and speak. Okay? Mr. Plummer: If you can shed some light we'd appreciate it. Mayor Ferre: I think the basic question is in the, Dade'County, and let's say that the Dadu County, and we seem to get all- the attention in the Miami Herald but Dade County really is what, 10-15 times'larger '-than ::What we are and all the programs you coordinate, what, is the average ofthe expenditures per child in the day care centers in Dade County? Ms. Wanda Sieiyhkoll: In all of the County I' think it is hard to get an average because you have so many different types and I think the problem with both the County's and the City's is our employees are County or City employees and either Civil Service or classified service so that you'll find that our wages are a little higher than in the privatesector because many of them just pay minimum wages for the people who care for the children and we feel, and I'm sure you do too that it is much better to havepeople who have experience and training in child care and, therefore, you have to pay more for them. I don't know the exact figure of Jackson-Dade's cost per child this last year but.... Mayor Ferre: Could you get that information for us? 155 SEP 13 1979 Ms. Sleighton: Yes, I can tell you it was between 3 and $4,000 per child but they have some other problems that you don't have, they're open 18 hours` a day so people who work in the evening get time and a half, I don't mean time and a half, they get.... Mayor Ferree We need to get apples to apples, I'd be very grateful if you would, submit that information and also I'd like to also have from You the average wage scale as compared, and Mr. Bond, you could give us those figures you know whenever this comes up for discussion next time. Ms. Sleighton: Yes, I'll be glad to get that. While I'm here, I'd like to say something about CETA employees. We felt that staff's salaries are the greater percent of a budget for child care and we thought that CETA employees would be the answer so we got a CETA grant and we trained some CETA employees. Some of them are just fine, some of them were not. They need supervision. You cannot change a person in a few months and expect them to stay that way. We had an incident that was quite bad,, we had someone that had been in train- ing at Lindsey Hopkins for 6 months and field experience and one day when she wasn't supervised she bit another teacher to make blood come on her face. Now I say that to emphasize that you cannot fill your child care centers with untrained undependable people, they have to be supervised and they have to be trained and you have to pay for it. Ms. Lourdes Dempsey: My name is Lourdes Dempsey, I live at 1770 S.W. 22nd Terrace. First of all, I have a question. I work for the Florida State Employment Agency and I'm a mother and I have two kids in the nursery. Now I know for a fact that CETA is on hold right now and they're not hiring any- body on CETA so one of my questions would be how soon would these CETA employ- ees be there. I don't know if that is relevant 'but .Ijust.... Mr. Grassie: The CETA program, Commissioner, has put a temporary hold on hiring ?in a' number of its titles. We know that programs are going to be re- funded'.as of the first of October and we are going through a process right now of going through the necessary lay-off process mandated by the federal govern- ment`so:that we have a lot of people in transition. Most of the program is making'<that transition from the end of the current fiscal year to a new fiscal year starting the first of October but just in the last day the CETA Program has made: allocation of $65,000,000 for programs starting the first of October and we::do anticipate that those programs will be funded at that time. Ms. Dempsey: My question is I don't know the gentleman's name but he said first of all that nobody was going to be laid off, are you talking about the teachers, they're not going to be laid off, the teachers that we now have at the nursery, they're still going'to stay there? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Bond: . Bond? That's what I said. Ms. Dempsey: All the teachers are going to remain there. Mr. Bond: I said that they would be reduced in hours see that we would be laying anybodyoff.•" possibly but we did not he 're. goingSo to ing part time, mostof the teachers there willbe working part time. Mr. Bond: That's Mrs. Gordon: Excuse me, Mr. Bond, but I received•a letter;'from more ;than. one teacher who said that she's been notified that she was being canceled. Yes', unless you just changed your mind.,, Ms. Dempsey: for a change. the way we're planning -it now.: straight answers and honest answers Mr. Plummer: Mt..Bond,.I know that this ,is an emotional issue but I think we could get better quicker answers'.•if we try; to get straight answers. Mr. Bond, do you know the answer to the -question? Mr. Bond: We did send out letters of termination. Mrs. Gordon: I know you did. rt 156 SEP 13 1979 Mr. Bond: Yes, those letters terminate the individuals from the general full time employment of the City, Mrs. Gordon, I justsaid that we were going to have them as part time, offer them part time employment. We are taking out further our 35 per hour week individuals and we're setting up a schedule o` approximately 20 per hours per week. Ms. Dempsey: But sir, some of these people who were laid off were part timers. How much more part time are you going to take off of them? They were already part time. What are you going to do then? Mr. Bond: 35 to 20 is what I just said. Ms. Dempsey: But they were already working less than 35 hours, they were. part I don't believe there were any less than 35...` time. Mr. Bond: UNINTELLIGIBLE CONVERSATION' Ms. Dempsey: They were working 30 hours a week. Mr. Plummere Well, 'I think he!has answered your question; to reduce to 20 hours'. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Bond, let me see if I have this straight. You say that you have written letters :of termination to the personnel handling this program and that is prior to this Commission which is the'one that has the responsibility to discontinue the program or to continue the program, taking an action. So then we say to these people that come here in a public hearing and to us that sit here through all this that you take an action, you create all these prob- lems, the credibility of the City suffers and then we are consulted after the fact. And let me tell you this, it is a shame that you people have to come here to ask for what is our responsibility to provide to you and I am going to endorse -fully this thing to go to the General Fund so this situation doesn't have to happen every year and they have to go through all of this year: after year. Mayor Ferre::-We the question:. have a motion and a second,:'I think Mr. Plummer:,,'24r. Mayor, y tinue and finish. Mayor`Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Are u're out of order, Let's vote, your Mayor Ferre: Mr. has Yes, it i the proposa it is time for us:to: cal : this': lady:; has the floor to con - going io get what you want,. isn't it? you calling the question? the question:' Plummer: Calling the called the Mayor -has The following motion question cuts debate: I'm'sorry , ma'am; the Mayor: called the question. Mr.'Ongie, call the roll was introduced by Commissioner Gordon who moved its adoptions: MOTION NO. 79-621 A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PLACE THE DAY CARE PROGRAM IN THE GENERAL FUND AND TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDS FROM THE MOST SUITABLE SOURCES PROVIDING THAT THE SERVICES RENDERED BY CITY OF MIAMI DAY CARE OPERATIONS SHALL BE ABOVE THE AVERAGE OF THE SERVICES RENDERED BY DADE COUNTY, PROVIDED THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI QUALITY OF SERVICE DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY GO OVER THE AVERAGE OF QUALITY OF SER- VICE PROVIDED AT THE DAY CARE CENTERS THROUGHOUT DADE COUNTY. Upon being seconded by Mayor Ferre, the motion was adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.. (Rev.) Theodore Gibson." NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner passed and rt 157 SEP 13 1979 • Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, you know for the last five years I've been going through this whole process, we always vote the same way, I don't know what the hullabaloo is always about, we always end up in the same place. Those of you,that weren't here before, we went through this last year, we ended up in the same place. Mr. Lacasa: We hope this is the last year we have to go through this. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, I do want to make another motion so I pass you the gavel and I move you, sir, that this program only be available to people who are residents of the City of Miami. Mr. Plummer:' There is a motion on the 'floor, is`there .a second? Commissioner Lacasa: Second.. Mr. Plummer: There is a motion, not it is seconded, that this program be only available, to City of Miami residents. Discussion? There is no discussion?; Yes, I've got to have some discussion.' Mr. Mayor, I am concerned that`,the..30 parents who have their children in there now, I fully'concur if the.program had had not started. What are we in reality saying to those 30 parents;. are, you grandfathering those in? Mrs. Gordon: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Lacasa: Yes. I want the maker of the motion... Mrs. Gordon: That's what he's saying, he's riot going to throw kids out o school. Mayor Ferre: Yes, absolutely grandfather. them in for this year, we're not going to throw these people out now. What I'm saying is that the next time for now on any new enrollments, that it only be limitedto City of Miami residents. Now I want you to understand, Anne, I know that the majority of these kids that are non-residents were residents when they began. I' understand that and there's nothing that we can do about that, obviously when somebody lives in Miami and then moves to Opa Locka that's the way'it is, I mean we can't hold that against people. But on the other hand, as long as>they are residents when they begin I think that's a sufficient requirement. Okay? But that's the intention of my motion. wish'to interject something? Mr. Grassie: Just as a point of information so that the City Commission knows this, the program does not now take any non-residents, everybody who is a non- resident nov nut being. a resident of the City so if the intent of your motion is tc f_---:* the program from taking people who are not residents when they first sign up that is now accomplished and the motion would have no pur- pose. Mayor Ferre: But you see, oe, we cant, this isn't 1984, we can't operate.... Mr. Grassier I'm not advocating anything, Mayor, I'm simply informing you. Mayor Ferre: I know, I'm not editoralizing, I'm just saying that we cannot approach this uu d big brother attitude. In other words I think we have to have reasonable regulations. The regulations are that this is for residents of Miami. If during the course of the year the parents move to Hialeah and they want to keep their kids in, this program there's nothing we can do about that and we just have to live with it because I don't see how you can forceably tell a parent who has a child in a day care center in Miami who moves out of the City to take his chit.; once' he's started on it. Mrs. Gordon: Maurice, there's another consideration you might want to think about this, some of the parent may be coming in to work in town and the child conveniently can be dropped off close to the place of employment and picked up at an earlier hour in that way. Mayor Ferre: I vote no on that, I'm sorry. This is for people who live and are taxpayers of the City of Miami and I think we've got more than enough to say grace over. The fact is that we ought to have 500 children in day care centers, as it is we're only providing the service for 147. Please, we have too many needs to be spreading it to people who may live in Coral Gables. 158 rt SEP 13 1979 The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who moved its adoption. MOTION NO. 79-622 A MOTION INDICATING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION THAT CITY OF MIAMI DAY CARE OPERATIONS BE MADE AVAILABLE ONLY TO CITY OF MIAMI RESIDENTS; FURTHER PROVIDING, HOWEVER, THAT PRESENTLY ENROLLED CLIENTS LIVING OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS BE GRANDFATHERED IN, AS OF THIS DATE. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None.. ABSENT: CommissionerTheodore R. Gibson. ON ROLL CALL:: passed Mr. Lacasa: I vote yes with the clear understanding that no child regardless of where his family lives right now is going to be kicked out of the program. Mrs. Gordon: Yes, with the same condition thatthis not be applied until the next school year begins which would be in a year from now. Mr. Plummer:Can a child be a grandfather? I vote yes. Ms. Wilson: Mayor Ferre, could I ask one more indulgence of you, please? My name is Anne Wilson, 3710 Battersea Road. My understanding is that as far as the funding goes that we will fund a program comparable to the better programs in Dade County with the figures that Mrs. Sleighton provides for you so we're not going to be cutting back on the quality of the program. Mayor Ferre: Well, I would, with all due respects, I look to that man over there who is the City Manager to provide us with the figures. They will be made public and if you have disagreements and if Dr. Sleighton has any disagree- ments with them I would want very much for her to be present and express the disagreements. Ms. Wilson: Wi13. we be notified of when that budget is set? Mayor Ferre: Absolutely. Ms. Wilson: Would I• get a copy.and.Mrs. Sleighton get a copy? Mayor Ferre: Yes, and you can bring all;the children back again a lot of fur.,: ;: "11 1-,ave a big .public :hearing all over ;again. Ms. Wilson: Maurice,;I didn't bring these children.; here, they werecoming until about 3:00 O'Clock this; afternoon, Mayor Ferro.: I believe and.we'11 have I- didn' t even know I=swear I'm innocent. n your innocence, _I want you .to know -.that. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I want to makean observation after and over,;. my flower is still the only one standing. Ms. Wilson: Now Mayor, I understand that we're not teachers, is that correct? Mrs. Gordon: That's right. Ms. Wilson: We're not going to lay off the gotten the lay-off notice? all: this is done going to lay off these teachers,' is that right, that have. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, .do.'we need to move a motion for you to. send. these; received termination notices to advise them-they;'re.not,termin- I'11 move that motion. Mayor Ferre: All right,'there is a motion on the floor and I.am not in.a posi tion to get involvedat. this point on that. teachers who ated? If so Mr. Grassie: Well simply, Commissioner, the way you accomplish that purpose... rt 159 SEP 13 1979 Mayor Ferre: Let's see if we get a second. Mr. Lacasa: What is ,the motion Rose? s there a second? Mrs. Gordon: The motion is not to, to reverse the termination notices that the teachers received advising them" they'renot terminated because they got, letters. Mayor Ferre: I think I cannot vote with you on that because I think that's something that we have to let the administration deal with. I'd be willing to consider it at the right time. Mr. Grassie: Let me see if I can put this in context for the City Commission. The City apparently has an obligation under it's labor agreements, if it thinks there is a possibility that an employee is going to be laid off to give them at least 30 days notice. Now, sometimes we go through that process, and remember that we discussed this at some length with the City Commission when we were talking about the substantial number of lay-offs in the CETA Program. Sometimes we go through that process and actually give a person a notification of lay-off and then are able to fund the position and the person gets the good news that, in fact, he or she will not be laid off. Now that is a shame that you have to go through that disagreeable event for the employee but I think that it is more of a shame to find at the last minute that you don't have money for a program and then cut him off without any notice. Mayor Ferre All right, further discussion? Mr. Lacasa: Well, I'd like to answer this because it not only pertains to this particular program but also pertains generally speaking to everybody else. These employees that received this notice are human beings and they depend on their employment. To send this notice to these people and get those families on that kind of anxiety I don't think is very human and I feel that an import- ant program such as this, and this has been going on for years, and by now the administration should have the experience that this Commission has shown through- out the years the sensitivity to these particular needs that has allowed this program to continue on and on throughout the years, that it was very unlikely that we were going to leave these people out there in the cold and consequently I would say that those notices were very premature and that the credibility of the Commission suffers because of this and that the families of the employees suffer because of this and this I think has to be taken very very seriously. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll. Mr. Plummer: I have to ask a question, you know I have no problem voting yes if the City Attorney doesn't tell me that it's quite possible I'm reading into, this motion that it's in violation of the Charter as it relates to the author- ity of the Manager. Mrs. Gordon: Policy now, J. Mr. Plummer: Well now you didn't say policy, Rose. If you say policy I can buy that but you know the Charter .'is"very clear, it says that this Commission shall not interfere with the authority. of the Manager as it relates to the day to day operation of this City. I can express myself but to vote in a motion.... Mrs. Gordon: J. L., I will make the motion to satisfy your concerns. That would be that it is the policy of this Commission that since we are providing the funds for the retention of the program in the General Fund that to ease the concerns of those people who have received lay-off notices that they re- ceive additional notices advising them of our action here tonight. 160 SEP 13 197S The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gordon, who moved its adoption. MOTION NO. 79-623 A MOTION EXPRESSING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION THAT TEACHERS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN CITY OF MIAMI DAY CARE PROGRAM NOT BE LAID OFF; FURTHER REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO CON- SIDER REVERSAL OF LAY-OFF NOTICES ALREADY MAILED TO AFFECTED TEACHERS BASED UPON THE CITY COMMISSION GOING ON RECORD ON THIS DATE TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDS IN THE FY-79-80 BUDGET AND REQUESTING THAT THE CITY MANAGER NOTIFY AFFECTED EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY COMMISSION ACTION THIS DAY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson. ON ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: With vote yes. the word attached, "The policy of the Commission", I can Mr. Grassie: I realize you're in the middle of a vote and I'm sorry' but I think that Commissioner Plummer is making a very good point. The fact is that, that is not a policy. Now what you're talking about is suggesting that I send out notices to einployees telling them that something is going to happen when you, in fact, have not yet approved a budget which makes it possible. Mayor Ferre: That's correct, precisely why I'm voting no, that's exactly what I said in the beginning. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, you misunderstood what I said then because what I said was that you advise them of what we have done tonight which was to ask you to put the funds into the General Fund. Now if you tell them that at least they wo l d then know. Mr. Grassie: There will won't be one of them that will not know that, Commis- sioner, but I will be happy to in addition to all the other devices for them knowing I;; will be happy to send them a memorandum which reflects as best I can what you have'dnni. Mr. Plummer., *', C- , Attorney, do you, have any legal qualms with that tion, with that motion? Mr. Jose Alvarez: With the motion' and with the caviat of the City Manager it is an informative type memorandum, I have no problems. Mayor Ferre: I vote no for the reasons I stated. I want to make sure that we understand tha we're on our way, we're not there yet. We've got a way to . go and we need some information from you before we can conclude all of this. All right, ladiA:. d,Id gentlemen, thank you for your patience and for being with us today and good luck to you. SEP 13 1979 36. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 8858, ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE; FUND MANAGEMENT INFORMA- TION SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT ELAN. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8858, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 28, ]978, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979, AS AMENDED; BY INCREASING THE INTRAGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS, COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $53,470 FROM 1977-78 RETAINED EARNINGS FOR SAID FUND; FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING A MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT PLAN; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 23, 1979 it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Lacasa, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8980. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. 37. FIRST & SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 1 OF 8719- RECREATION FOR MENTALLY RETARDED - 3RD YEAR. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719, ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, THE SUMMARY GRANT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY APPROPRIATING INTO THE TRUST AND AGENCY FUND AN AMOUNT OF $5,904 FOR THE OPERATION OF THE PROGRAM ENTITLED: "RECREATION TOR THE ;:NIALLY RETARDED (3RD YEAR)"; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Gordon and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter dispensing with the_ requirement of reading same on two separate days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission - AYES: Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT:: Commissioner Theodore R. Gibson. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gordon and seconded Commissioner Lacasa, adopted said ordinance by the following vote- AYES:- Commissioner Rose Gordon Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Theodore R. Gibson. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8981. 162 SEP 13 196 EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 3853 38. INCREASE INTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS - EQUIPMENT PURCHASES 1978 AND 1979 Mayor Ferre: ...last evening. I want...so hurry up. Lets go c'mon, lets move. Where are we? Item 10? Plummer, do you want to move that? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Ferre: Lacasa..,. Mr. Lacasa: Mayor Ferre: AN econd. Seconds. Read the Ordinance, .'emergency. '. call. the roll.. AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 8982 AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMDNEDING SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8858, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 28, 1978, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979, AS AMENDED, BY APPROPRIATING AN AMOUNT OF $834,000 FROM THE BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, CITY GARAGE --RETAINED EARNINGS ACCOUNT; BY INCREASING THE INTRAGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS, CITY GARAGE - EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT ACCOUNT IN THE SAME AMOUNT, FOR THE PURPOSE OF OFFSETTING CHARGES MADE AGAINST 1978-79 APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE PAYMENT OF FY1977-78 EQUIPMENT PURCHASES; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing. with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYES: NOES: ABSENT:` Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson ABSTAINING:` Whereupon .the Commission on motion'of ;;Commissioner.,Plummer. and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa,=adopted said Ordinance:by `the - following vote: Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 1st 163 SEP 13 1979 :AYES: NOES None Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ABSENT: Corarni.ssioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson ABSTAINING: None NO. 8982 DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE N SAID ORDINANCE WAS The City Attorney read the ordinanceinto the pUbliC'reCOrd. - and announced that copies were available to members of the City . Commission and to the public. EERGENCY ORDINArCE: AMEND SECTIOAS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE 3853 39. INCREASE INTERGROVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS - COMPUTERS ArD C0111•112i1CATIOS FOR REMODELING, ETC. • Mayor Ferre: Who wants to move 11? Mr. Lacasa: Move. Mayor Ferre: Lacasa moves. Plummer? where did Plummer go now? We're on item 11. Lacasa has moved it. Does somebody want to second that? , . Mr. Plummer: Yes I'll second. Mayor Ferre: What? Mr. I second. , - Mayor Plummer - seconds. Read-j....ttie.E:OrdinanCe POINT , ‘ CITY ATTORNEY READ ORDINANCE • Mrs. Gordon: Where are these funds '...beingStre0Sferred',frota,',Mr. Grassie? Mr. Gr.,40: What this is, Coraraissioner, is an accounting Process to comply with the request of our external auditors. And they in turn, are complying with a rather peculiar state law which we are in the process 01. trying to get changed. But the allY impact of this change is an a( -),Ling process. Mayor Ferre: Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - Al!: EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 3 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8858, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 28, 1978, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1979, AS AMENDED, BY INCREASING THE INTRAGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE FUNDS, COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,000 FROM 1977-78 RETAINED EARNINGS FOR SAID FUND, FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING REMODELLING COSTS, FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE (CONTINUED ON NEXT PAGE) 1 1 s t 164 SEP 13 ]9i Was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Plummer, ;for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote: AYES: NOES None ABSENT: ABSTAINING:. None Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. 'Commissioner Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Commissioner Rev. Theodore R.'Gibson',. Whereupon ,the ,,Commissio. on motion of- Commissioner,`Lacasa and seconded.: by Commissioner' Plummer, adopted said Ordinance:: by the' following vote: AYES Commissioner Rose Gordon Commiss-Ar mando, Vice-Mayor;J. L..Plummer, Jr Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ABSENT:- Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. ABSTAINING: None Gibson. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO.8983 The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to members of the City Commission and to the public. FIRST AND SECOND AMEND SECTIONS 1 OF ORDINANCE 3716 40. READING ORDINANCE: APPROPRIATE $277,500 TO FUND CONST_PUCTIO17 OF FIRE STATION NO.4 FROM BOND FUNDS Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves 12. Who seconds? Mrs. Gordon: Second. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon. Further discussion? Call the...read the ordinance. AN ORD1NANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.8716 ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVE- MENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING CERTAIN ADJUSTMENTS AND APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE 1976 FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND FUND AN AMOUNT OF $277,500 TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FIRE STATION NO. 4; BY APPROPRIATING FROM THE 1976 FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND FUND AN AMOUNT OF $47,000 TO SUPPLEMENT THE EXISTING (CONTINUED ON NEXT PAGE) 1St 165 SEP 13 1979 APPROPRIATION FOR FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO (2) SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by 'Commissioner Gordon for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission: AYES: Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner 'Plummer. and seconded by Commissioner Gordon, adopted said ordinance,by the "! following vote: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice Ferre SAID'ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 8984 The City ,Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and copies were available to the public. AMEND SECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE 8977 41. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE CHANGES IN ACCORDANCE WITH LABOR AGREEMENTS Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lacasa, do you want to move... Mr. Lacasa: 13, I move. Mayor Ferre: All right, who seconds 13? Mr. Plummier: Yes. Under discussion. Mr. Mayor, as you will recall, on this item before and I'm sorry that Father Gibson is not here... it was my concern and that of Father Gibson, and I think Mrs. Gordon, SEP 13 19/9 that Istated previously; and I wish:to state for the record again, was not opposed to the changes,in the Civil Service Rules. I was opposed to the, placing of the power in a single individual. It was Father's statement at the time, that we would address that problem individually because he had. some serious reservations. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre• Mr. Plummer: that problem before. And reading. at second reading. this is second reading. This is first reading? Yes. Ail right, Iwill bring it up but, Mr.'Grassie, I want not to come here as a surprise because thatwas `brought up I want that problem: addressed at the tiine of the :second Mayor Ferre: You are so instructed urtherr: discussion. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner...;yes,: but Mr. Mayor, I think that Commissioner has a misunderstanding with regard with is being proposed. The changes that are -talked, about here," ";are simply to make the Civil Service Rules comply with the" provisions of -the negotiated contracts. Mr Mayor Ferre: AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8977, ADOPTED JULY 24, 1979, ENTITLED: "AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 6945, AS AMENDED, IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFORE, A NEW ORDINANCE APPROVING A NEW CODE nr. CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS :.� HEREINAFTER SET FORTH; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE." BY ADDING AN UNNUMBERED PARAGRAPH TO SECTION 11.1 AND TO SECTION 15.3 OF SAID NEW RULES: SECTION C.18, SECTION 12.8, SECTION 14.13, SECTION 15.12; BY PROVIDING THAT CITY EMPLOYEES IN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT MAY BE APPOINTED, PROMOTED, ADVANCED, TRANSFERRED, ASSIGNED, LAID OFF, CUNb LDERED TO HAVE RESIGNED OR TO HAVE BEEN RETNSTATED, DISMISSED, SUSPENDED, DEMOTED, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF AN APPROPRIATE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LABOR AGREEMENT; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES DESIGNATED AS "MANAGERIAL" OR "CONFIDENTIAL" BE PROVIDED WITH ALCKUED SICK LEAVE, COMPENSATION FOR UNUSED SICK LEAVE, AND THE USE OF SICK LEAVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF A SPECIFIC COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LABOR AGREEMENT; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT EMPLOYEES IN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT BE COMPENSATED FOR UNUSED SICK LEAVE, HAVE SICK LEAVE CONVERTED TO VACATION TIME, AND HAVE TIME OFF WITH PAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF AN APPROPRIATE LABOR AGREEMENT; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE 167 SEP 13 19/S Was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded,., Commissioner Gordon and passed and adopted on its first reading title by the following vote: AYES: ABSENT: •Commissioner Armando Lacasa Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rose Gordon Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the publicrecord and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL 42. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: SCOREBOARD NEGOTIATIONS, ETC. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, would you take the gavel? I move a resolution authorizing the Miami Dolphins to begin to sell beer in the Orange Bowl Stadium immediately, at no cost to the City, with a return to the City of 25% of gross beer sales revenue, less taxes, for a period to end no later than July 1, 1980. Further providing that no beer be dispensed to the public except in soft containers. Further authorizing the City Manager to execute the attached agreement with the Miami Dolphins, Limited. Terms and conditions contained in the report presented to the Commission by the Committc hced J by Col. Mitchell Wolfson on November 9th, 1978 in the following provisions. (a) the above percentage will increase to 35% on July 1st, 1980 or as soon as the automatic beer dispensing is operation whichever is earlier. (b) the 3 year escape provision contained in the present use agreement be extended to 4 years. (c) that this escape provision is exercised by the Miami Dolphins, whether or not the concession agreement will also be cancelled will be at the sole option of the City. (d) that a second scoreboard be part of the scoreboard, further providing that all legal disputes existing at this time between the Dolphins and the City will be dismissed and further providing the cost of the installation of the automatic beer dispensing system, will remain open for the continuing negotiations as to any cost to be incurred by the City. And I so move. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I just for clarification, this motion this morning was in 2 parts. As this motion stands, I cannot vote for because both parts are incorporated. I would appreciate it that this matter be placed before us in the same manner as it was this morning. And that I would, and did vote favorably for the serving of this year: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, let me...that record stands clear and that passed unanimously 5 to 0. As I said in the beginning of the morning, I was going to climb the ladder and I was starting at the lowest level. And when I sensed that there was another ladder, another 168 SEP 13 1979 row to climb, we. ;climbed'on_it. And what I>did, if you will -remember in,thermotion, is'I incorporated the earlier'. ,Motion. What we are voting: on°here is; not the first motion,; but the.second motion that had all``of'.tbese things 'in it. And..I stand onthat, and I so move. Mrs. Gordon: Lacasa, would you eliminate that last part? Mrs. Gordon: Will`you eliminate that from the agreement. leaving it open because I'm -afraid... Mr. Lacasa: Mrs. Gordon: No, I'd just like to express myself to you. I'm afraid :. • that with.all of ,the differences that we have had with Robbie, that when hesees this as not a conclusive agreement that he...well no, I'm asking him a• question, and I would like him to answer, Would you consider: it so we can wrap this thing up? Mr. Lacasa No, Rose. The reason why I cannot consider that becasue. my basic problem here with all these negotiations is the investment on, the part oftthe City. I am willing togo along on the question of the percentages but`as far as the question concerning the investment,. of the City, I feel that there Mayor Ferre: Yes, Mr. Robbie accepted that. he understands. So, I call the question. Mrs. Gordon: • All right, Mayor Terre:' ou want to read what? I talked to him and r. Mayor. .'Plummer: .I want to read this motion. This is the first time Ihave seen it in a ;completed draft, in one form. Mr. City Attorney, second page, section 4. If in effect, this motion were to pass, what jeopardy or liability does this place the City in at the end of:: July 1, 1980? Mr. Alvarez: Pertaining to section 4? Mr. 'Alvarez: 'Presumably., :by July, been installed. Mr. Plummer: That's not, a liability,; problem as_far'as the:City.:if we did not reach an agreement. Well', that's.what.Tto make sure But what do>.we do to;ourselves if we Vote -favorably on this section. 4? If it were.to be voted out today?` Mayor•Ferre: It's open for negotiations. There's...there's no... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I justwant to interject for your edification and that of Mrs. Gordon's, if you are not aware, that the City of Tampa in'the recent negtiations of their contract, not only received 44% across the board for food, beverage and beer, but the City of Tampa forwarded $300,000 up front for the equipment and are being paid back, in full, over a 10 year period that $300,000, back to the City, of Tampa in addition to the 44% total. They are not in any way obligating the tax payers of Tampa for this equipment ist 169 SEP 13 1yl9 Mr. Lacasa: Maybe what we need to add to section 4 is this last line so nobody has any doubts about the intent of this .particular clause. We say here, "the subject matter of the installation cost of the automatic beer dispensing system which might be installed in the stadium will remain operative...open for continuing negotiations between the said Dolphins and the City. Concerning the extent of the costs, if any, which are to be incurred by the City, for which the City at this time assumes no responsibility, whatsoever." Mayor Ferre: • Well all that is .is clarification. of the statement: All he's doing is clarifying what Plummer is saying, which is obvious anyway. Mr. Lacasa: Clarifying that... Mr. Plummer: All right, let me -ask -this. If in effect,,the City,, and the present concessionaire are not able'to:'agreeupon who pays the cost of that equipment, does that preclude our going to public bidding? Mrs. Gordon: When?` Mr. Plummer: July l o Mrs. Gordon: Yes. Mayor Ferre: What? Mr. Plummer:: If the City andthe present:'concessionaire are not . to agree on who pays for the dispensing equipment,'the $330,000 Mayor Ferre: Then we have no contract. Mr. Plummer: Does that preclude, July 1, 1980t from -this City, going out Lu public bidding? Lacasa: No. Mr. Plummer: Then what :you are saying agrees dnu Mr. Robbie does not, prior public ..,iLallg. Is that correct?: that if this Commission: o July 1, we then Will go out to Mayor Ferre: Look...look lets...lets... Mr. Plummer: I'm asking the question. Mayor Terre: Lets be very clear what we've done here. 3 people on, this Commission have voted'for`beer in the Orange Bowl. Now Mr. LaPa.ca, and I'm ready to vote without that last paragraph as is Mrs. Gordon, on the record and I'm sure I'm speaking for you on, this. Mrs. Gordon:' Right, Absolutely. I'd rather not have that in there., Mayor Ferre: I would rather not have it either but we can't get 3 votes on that o.k.? Let the record reflect that it is the clear intention of this Commission, including Mr. Lacasa, to have beer in the Orange Boul and to work this thing out. And Mr. Grassie is instructed to work this problem out with the Dolphins. Mrs Gordon And•.we expect that to be done post-haste as Father. Right, I would say so. 170 1st SEP 13 lye Mayor Ferret O.k ? All right with that..is there... questi'on', Mr.° Chairman. call :the Mr. Plummer: Call: the :roll. The following resolution was introduced -by Mayor Ferre who moved its adoption:' RESOLUTION NO. 79-624 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MIAMI DOLPHINS TO BEGIN TO SELL BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM IMMEDIATELY AT NO COST TO THE CITY, WITH A RETURN TO THE CITY OF TWENTY-FIVE (25) PERCENT OF GROSS BEER SALES REVENUE, LESS TAXES, FOR A PERIOD TO END NO LATER THAN JULY 1, 1980; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT NO BEER BE DISPENSED TO THE PUBLIC EXCEPT IN SOFT CONTAINERS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENTS WITH THE MIAMI DOLPHINS,LTD., PURSUANT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION BY THE COMMITTEE HEADED BY COL. MITCHELL WOLFSON ON NOVEMBER 9, 1978, AND THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS: (a) THAT THE ABOVE PERCENTAGE WILL INCREASE TO THIRTY-FIVE (35) PERCENT ON JULY 1, 1980, OR AS SOON AS AUTOMATIC BEER DISPENSING IS OPERATIONAL, WHICHEVER IS EARLIER, (b) THAT THE THREE YEAR ESCAPE PROVISION CONTAINED IN THE PRESENT USE AGREEMENT BE EXTENDED TO FOUR YEARS, (c) THAT IF THIS ESCAPE PROVISION IS EXERCISED BY THE MIAMI DOLPHINS, WHETHER OR NOT THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT WILL ALSO BE CANCELLED, WILL BE AT THE SOLE OPTION OF THE CITY, (d) THAT A SECOND SCOREBOARD BE PART OF THE SCOREBOARD AGREEMENT; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT ALL LEGAL DISPUTES EXISTING AT THIS TIME BETWEEN THE DOLPHINS AND THE CITY WILL BE DISMISSED; AND FURTHER PROVIDING THAT THE COST OF THE INSTALLATION OF THE AUTOMATIC BEER DISPENSING SYSTEM WILL REMAIN OPEN FOR CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS AS TO ANY COSTS TO BE INCURRED BY THE CITY. .(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file'in.the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gordon, the was passed.and adopted by: the following vote: AYES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Commissioner Armando,,Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon` NOES: ABSENT: *Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson COMMENTS ;ON. 'THE ABOVE: resolution *Mr. Plummer: This circumvents public bidding. In my estimation, a I gave the figures this morning, it is tantamount to giving away $1,500,000. That to me is the equivalent of 50.policemen. . I vote.'. 1`71 list SEP 13 1979 • rji AUT}Karl CTTY 1 4:UAGT:R TO EL,TFER INi'C` AGREEMEI' : PEAT , ? 1A:WICK AO ITI'CIIE L 43. RE: VIA'T ON ISLA D Mayor Ferre: Ail right. We are now on item 25(a) authorizing the Manager to enter into 61r1. agreement with Peat, Marwick, & Mitchell, Watson Island, City Manager recommends. What's that all about,Mr. Manager? Mr. Gordon: I have a question. Mr. Grassie: Which item are we on, Mayor? mayor Ferre: What? _Mt. Plummer: Peat, Marwick, Mitchell. Mayor Ferre: 25(a), Watson Island, Peat, Marwick, Mitchell. I'll recognize you next, Rose. Mk... Mr. Grassie: Several months ago, Mr. Mayor, when we were discussing the Watson Island proposed agreement and its revision, this City Commission asked the Ch fiber_ of Conmerce to review the proposed changes and to give a reco m ndati.on back to this City Commission with regards to the business terms and. whet}, 1. ar not the changes were reasonable. What that Chamber of Conmerce has now done is ask the City to get some professional opinion to backup c.tha evor conclusion the Chamber would come to, and what we are attempting to do through this agreement with the City's external auditors is to provide that professional backup for the review which the Chamber of Commrce is undertaking, at your request. Mayor Ferre: O.k. Mrs. Gordon. Mrs. Gordon: My question is that the 1977, 1978 financial audit is 12 months later, in hand written worksheets and not in a printed form. Is that true Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: I'm sorry, I didn't hear all of the'commen Mrs. Gordon: I said, the 1977, 78 financial audit 12 months later is handwritten worksheets and not in a printed form. It's not final. Mr. Grassie: Yes, that's correct. Mrs. Gordon: contract. This is the longest delay to date Mayor Ferre: ti]ai.t ..Rose, what's this have to do Peat, Marwick and Mitchell? Mrs. Gordon: This is Peat, Marwick and Mitchell that I am addressing myself to. This is in violation of our contract. The contract says, the completion time for all audits, unless otherwise specified, shall be 90 days after the fiscal year ends. The completion time, maximum, should have been 90 days after September 30th, 1978. Is that correct, Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Well, I would have to go back to the record, Commissioner: to verify it, but... Mrs. Gordon: Well, I have a copy of the contract here, examine it. ist 172 SEP 1 3 1979 Mr. Grassie: I can, I can assume that you are reading from it and I'm sure that's probably correct. Mrs. Gordon: O.k. The next thing that I wish to bring to your attention, the City paid 45 thousand dollars for what is called FAMIS, which is the Financial and Management. Information System, and Peat, Marwick's accounting system, in 1975 to give us an excellent accounting system. I want to know what happened? Mr. Grassie: The audit report this year is unusally late, Cbmm issioner. The principle reason for it is that the City has been going through, as you know, a very serious and difficult conversion process from one small outer to two much larger ones and has been incorporating within that conversion also, some police and fire applications. And, in all of that changing of equipment, programs, computer languages and also in adapting to a new requirement on the part of the state, with regard to the accounting, the basic accounting code for the City, that all of those changes attempted in one year have simply thrown our awn accounting process, as well as the audit process significantly behind schedule. And, while we do anticipate having results yet this year, this fiscal year, I think the basic point you are making, which is that these processes are unusually delayed is correct. Mr. Gordon: Is anyone here from Peat, Marwick, and Mitchell? Mayor Ferre: At this hour? Mrs. Gordon: Yes, they are here. Would you come forward and let me ask you' a question? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, while he is caning up, let me just make sure, because I couldn't sleep well tonight if I didn't. That motion that you made in reference to the Orange Bowl does include the exclusion of serving to minors at high school games and rock concerts. Mayor Ferre: Yes, yes. Because that was part of the Wolfson report. See, that is where it was covered. O.k. Go ahead sir. You name for the record. Mr. Dale Maschino: Mrs. Cordon: Mayor Ferre: record sir. Dale Maschino.. the representative of Peat, Marwick and Mitchell...; Wait a minute. Rose, please. Your name and arress for Mr. Dale Maschino: Dale Maschino Mitchell, 1000 Brickell Avenue. the firm of Peat, Marwick and Mrs. Gordon: Can you tell us what happened that your audit is so delayed. Mr. Maschino: I'm not part of the audit group, per se, but I believe the situation is such that the books have simply not been closed for the prior fiscal year. Mrs. Gordon: Why, what happened? Mrs. Grassie: Well, that is a little unfair Mts. Gordon: Wc. 11, do you know of any othermajor city in Florida with such delay? Dade County, Hialeah, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, Jacksonville,do you know of any other major entity. Mr. Maschino: I don't know that any are in the same situation, but I don't know that they are not either. Either way. Mrs. Gordon: Well, have I been lead to understand that all of these have been closed. They are closed and we are the only major city that is not. How can we be going through budget and going through figures and how can we be even aware of what monies we have and don't have when we don't have 173 SEP 1 3 1979 that closed? Can you tell me that? Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, the point that I was trying to make with you is that Mr. Maschino is in a division of Peat, Marwick which deals with management analysis, management studies. He is not in the audit division, so that the sort of things that you are asking... Mayor Ferre: Is that like asking a pilot what to do with a ship? Mr. Grassier Yes. The sorts of things you are asking him are really not the sorts of things with which he is acquainted. He is not involved in the City's anrli t. Mayor Ferre: I think what Mrs. Gordon wants is, if`I may recommend, is that Peat, Marwick and Mitchell come before the Commission and explain all these things and then you can ask these questions fran the appropriate person. Mr. Maschino: I think that would be the appLupriate thing to have the partner in charge of the audit. Mayor Ferrer That will give you a nice crack and at a better time when you have television and newspapers and all that. This is a bad time to do this, Rose. Come on, Norty, what's the matter with you man. Mrs. Gordon: Axe you then delaying the action on the item that is before us? Mayor Ferre: No, one thing has nothing to do with the other. This is a strictly...a managerial agreement with Peat, Marwick and Mitchell. A complete different division. Has nothing to do with the audit, this guy and these people are not accountants, they are doing something in a completely different capacity and it deal with Watson Island, and I rove it. Mr. Plummer: Well., Mr. Mayor, let me just bring something up here because I want to tell you something. You know, I don't appreciate and I want to tell you this right on the record and I'm not trying to hurtanybody's feelings and it's not with malice. Mr. Grassie, I want to tell you that Mr. Gunderson, on the record of the Pension Board meeting stated, very clearly, that the books had been closed... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer... Mr. Plummer: Many months ago... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, I must request that you stick with the subject, please. ? 11FIn rr.de a motion that has nothing to do with what you are talking about and I would ask that you, as the Chairman, ask for a second on the specific thing, has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Mr. Plummer: As Chairman, I will decide that. If there is a motion on the floor, I was unaware. If there is a motion I will ask for a second. Mayor Ferrer Mr. Plummer, I am moving that Peat, Marwick, Mitchell be retained to make a study on Watson Island so that we can deal with the Chamber of Conmerce's questions. Mr. Plummer: Is there a second? Mr. Lalasa: Second. Mr. Plummer: There is a second. Under discussion.'' Mrs. Gordon: On discussion. I would like to call your attention to the following items that have been given through contracts to Peat, Marwick and Mitchell and they are as follows: a fee for developing financial management system, $45,000 in 1975; in 1976 a fee for city audit for 1976 through 1980, $230,000; the 1977-78 is not yet finished and in two weeks we need to begin, I assume, the work on the 78-79; a fee for Community Development audit of $6,000 on December the 6th of 1976; on March 16 of 1977 a fee for Parks for People audit of $5,000, on July the 14th of 77, 174 SEP 1 3 197E a fee -for-.tthe-Department of total,.$303,200.. Mr. Plummer: Budget and Management audit of $17,200; and these Any further discussion, Mrs. Gordon? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to call your attention to the fact that you're moving this contract now and that the Miami City Code under Article 5, Conflicts of Interest, Section 2-103 states and I quote, Every officer, official, or employee of the City,including every member of any board, commission or agency of the city, is expressly prohibited from accepting, directly or indirectly, from any person, company, firm or corporation to which any purchase order or contract is or might be awarded, any rebate, gift, money or anything of value whatsoever, except where given for the use and benefit of the city. Ordinance number 7122, Section 3... Mayor Ferre: Not applicable. Mrs. Gordon: Since Maurice Ferre has been Mayor, the accounting firm o Peat, Marwick... Mayor Ferre: Not. applicable. Mrs. Gordon: Prior to today has received nose than $300,000 in contracts.. from the City of Miami... Mayor Ferre: So what. Mrs. Gordon: During the past 21 years Mr.;Ferre has received $2,300 10 of the top executives of Peat, Marwick and Mitchell as campaign contributions. It is also... Mayor Ferre: It is perfectly... Mrs. Gordon: interesting to know, that the same firm on January the 2nd of this year employed Mayor Ferrets son-in-law, Leonardo Succar, at a salary of $800 a month. Mayor Ferre: For exactly one week and two days. Mrs. Gordon: In..in view.. time was longer, than .. Mayor Ferre: Till I...till I.. from; Mrs. Gordon: Mayor.Ferre Mrs. Gordon: one week and the two . ys Till I found":out'"about it. records have been checked. In view of these violations of the law... Mayor Ferre: Let her finish her written statement. Mrs. Gordon: In view of these violations of the law, which call for fines of up to $500 and imprisonment for up to 60 days, I think the only honorable course open for Mr. Fe -re is to resign as Mayor of Miami. Mayor Ferre: That's good but that's not good enough. I would say that that'. doesn't equal the sequel and the editorials dealing with your son. Mrs. Gordon: Are you denying that you have a conflict of interest, Mr. Ferro. Are you denying that? Mayor Ferre: Mrs.....Z+e11 me when you're finished. Tell me when your finished and when I' can answer without being interrupted. Mr. Plummer: You're recognized Mr. Mayor. I hope that you won't be interrupted. Mayor Ferre: The law very clearly specifies that candidates for office can accept contributions and they are not in conflict as long as they are properly declared. I don't have any problems because you'll find out that I got just as much irony from other accounting firms and therefore, if I were to preclude accounting firm contributions none of the major accounting firms could do any SEP 1 3 197� oft err work for the City of Miami. Arid if none of the major accounting firms could do work for the City of Mi.arni., then we could not have certified reports that would be acceptable in Wall Street. And so therefore, there is absolutely no prcblem. Mrs. Gordon: O.k. Mr. Mayor, then we add a few more. You also fought like a tiger to win a long terrn exclusive contract for the use of the Dinner Key exposition hall by Exposition Corporation of Anerica. They won their contract. Later,on June the 20th, 1979 before Mr. Ferre was even an announced candidate for reelection, he received a $1,000 from Exposition Corporation of America. Mayor Ferre: And so I have for every election that I have ever run in, going back for the last ten years. It took you ten years to find that out? Mrs. Gordon: Well here again you are in ... Mayor Ferre: It's on t.he record Mrs. Gordon: violation of our law and the Code of the City of Miami. You are in conflict. Mayor Ferre: Why don't you call Janet Reno and prosecute. And as a matter of fact, why don't you go down to the Grand Jury. That would be even better because I think they have sale questions to ask of you. • Mrs. Gordon: For years Steve Ross has been Maurice Ferre's pol.i.tical quote unquote, "godfather" your political Mayor Ferre: Are you reading this? Mrs. Gordon: Your political public relations consultant, but unlike other such consultants... • Mayor Ferre: You mean like MortY Freednan. _ Mrs. Gordon: Ross is not listed as receiving any conpensation... Mayor Ferre: He pays rre. Mrs. Gordon: fran Mr. Ferre, in fact, he oontributes to Maurice's camiaai.gn. Mayor Ferre: That's right. That's right. I'll tell you... Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Ross is the president of a firm called National Products, Inc. listed as ... ' - • • mayor .,„ „. .„ .„. ..„.. Mrs. Gordon: director of the firm is a ....,.....,,, Mayor Ferre: Mr. chairmn... Nrs. Gordon: anotber political... Mayor Ferre: Pi - • ..•,- . tof Order, it's c�l1etely unrelated. Mrs. Gordon: p. r • inan, Dick Knight. Mr. Plumper: Point of Order Mrs. Gordon it been (Inaudibl.e) Mayor Ferre: Carkoletely unrelated mrs. Gordon: When assistant...when Restaurant Associates o dwe theCity $288,000 in back rent ... Mayor Ferre: Are you running this xreeting? Mr. P3.1sTrer: I don't know. I'm beginning to v.voruler. firs. Gordon: On their Green Dolphin Restaurant at the Miaini Marina, it was ist 176 'SEP i 3 was Knight who represented Restaurants Associates and was the go-between for Restaurant Associates and the City Cammission according to the Miami Herald last December. That was just after the City Camtission voted to cut the rent for the Green Dolphin upon the recommendation of the City Manager. The Herald noted at the time that Grassie was one of the few officials in City Hall who knew about the $288,000 in delinquent rent. That is because Restaurant Associates negotiated secretly with his office and with you, Mayor Ferre, as late as the morning before the Commission vote. Want to hear more? Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you what... Mr. Plummer: Rose... Mrs. Gordon: Another member ofthis `finn is National Products,'.`. Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon: And Rick Sisser Tallahassee... Mayor Ferre: That Mrs. Gordon take the statement that Dick Rundell- written for her and 'submit it into the record... Mayor Ferre: I; don't: have any problem with her submitting it into the record and making it a part of the public record. I, for the third time, Mr. Chairman, say that as a matter of point of order and personal privilege, Mrs. Gordon is out of order Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Gordon, may the Chair, please, recamiend that anything we have to say about Peat, Marwick, Mitchell be to the point... Mrs. Gordon: We have made our point and the point is that the Mayor should recluse himself from voting rather than making a motion on this issue. Mr. Plummer: Mitchell... Your first issue alleged that he received from Peat, Marwick, Mrs. Gordon: Right. Mr. Plummer: Nk-s. Gordan: Ttie Mayor laughed that one off... Mr. Plummer: All right, but what I'm saying is the Mrs. Gordon: I want the Mayor to know that he is in violation of the Charter. Mr. Plummer: The Chair will recognize you for any further statement you want, after we settle the matter at hand. Now, the mattes at hand is the selection of Peat, Marwick, Mitchell for the purposes of doing an audit of Watson Island. Anything else you want to bring up Rose, I would honor that right for you to do. But, lets take the matter at hand and I think you made your points of what you wanted to about that. Now, if you have anything else under discussion as it relates to the item, lets proceed. Mr. LaCasa, do you have any comments to make in relation to item 25(a) Mr. LaCasa: No, I have nothing to say. Mr. Plummer: All right, now I... Mayor Ferre: Call the question. Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute now. You know, I have been a good boy, tried to run everything nice and smoothe in tranquil waters. Mr. Grassie, after all of this other dissertation, I hate to even bring up the subject, but I have to because I feel that it is necessary. One of the reasons given to 177 'ft, 13 111179 us that the books were not closed an appropriate time, was because the computer was not functioning properly. Why not listen to this Mr. Mayor? If I'm not mistaken, my problem is that Peat, Marwick, Mitchell were the consultants on the computer. Now, you have to rectify that one for me. I'm not a... Mr. Grassie: What did you say about walking on water? Mr. Plummer: Well, I want an answer. I think that this commands an answer. I really do. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, Let me answer two questions although you have asked one. Let me answer two questions because I think that you have a separate question that you had started with and I think that we need to respond to that on also. I believe you were interrupted earlier. Mr. Plummer: Many times. Mr. Grassie: You started to say something about the statement that Mr. Gunderson had made to the Pension Board. One of the things that we have to be cognizant of, is the question of closing the City's books, unfortunately happens in stages. Mr. Gunderson's closing is the first stage. The process of taking that closing which is a trial closing, and putting it through the computer and testing it against whatever is in computer memory, is a second stage. Presuming that you finished that second stage successfully, then the auditors take over, although they have been participating in the steps prior. They take over at that point and do their final closing. The official one, if you wish, which is the third stage. Now, you are asking about the delay in the computer. It is true that Peat,Marwick has been intimately involved for, I guess about 5 years, with the City on the question of computers. And at a staff level, and we have with Dale and other members of Peat, Marwick, had at least 2 or 3 dozen arguments about who ought to be doing what, and whose fault it is, and all that sort of thing. But the truth is that anytime that you get into a very complex conversion that there is no one person or organization at fault. The City,in my estimation, no doubt, was at fault to begin with in that it really was not staffed up to hold up its end of the agreement. And again in my estimation, Peat, Marwick did less than they should have, because someplace along the line they got tired and, I think, they sort of went away and avoided some of their professional responsibility, as I would interpret it. But we...both sides were at fault and as a result of that, in fact, the installation took much longer than it should have. Took 2 or 3 wrong turns in the process of getting accomplished and probably is about 3 years behind schedule in terms of whatever the original schedule might have been. Nov, that I think has to be put into context of typical private industry experience and I would suggest to you that most major corporations when they go through this kind of a conversion to computers, also find that their 2 year plans take 5 years. There is a great deal of literature that would demonstrate that to you with regard to private industry. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, I don't mean to be rude but it's late and, you know... Mr. Plummer: The bottom Mr. Grassie, do you feel that there is any credibility gap because what has transpired? Mr. Grassie: No, I don't think that there is a credibility gap with regard to Peat, Marwick. Mr. Plummer: I haven't dealt with them, you have. Any further discussion? Mrs. Gordon: When will the audit be closed? When will the books be closed? I'm asking Peat, Marwick. Mr. Mbschino: I can't answer that. Mr. Grassie: He is really...he doesn't deal with that on a day to day, or even on a month to month basis, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: Would you get that answer for Mrs. Gordon? 178 'SEP i 3 Ill% Mr. Certainly, we'd be happy to, get it for you.. The following resolution was moved its adoption: introduced by RESOLUTION NO. 79-625 • A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENLARGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGR1T WITH THE FIRM OF PEAT, MARWICK, MIT ELL & COMPANY, CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTA?TTS, AS APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 76-733 ON JULY 22, 1976, FOR REVIEW AND ASSESSMENT OF THE AMENDED DEVELOPER/OPERATOR A 'm rn BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND DIPLOMAT WORLD ENTERPRISES, LTD., ON JUNE 29, 1979, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $18,000 FROM THE WATSON ISLAND PARKS FOR PEOPLE BOND FUND, AND TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 45 CALENDAR DAYS (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner LaCasa the resolution was passed and adoptedbythe following vote: AYES:" NOES:`. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre: Mr. LaCasa: Catmissioner Armando;LaCasa MayorMaurice",Ferre Vice-Mayor'J. L.Plummer, Jr. Commissioner 'RoseGordon Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson All right, we are 28 now on item number ... Mrs.: Gordon: Mr. Ferre, you asked me to continue after the vote was taken on that. I have a short paragraph, I would just like to finish the statimr.:a,L.. And that was regarding the campaign contributions that you received, and as we stated before, Steve Ross doesn't, apparently get paid for his political consulting from you but we do know that on May the 16, 1979, Mt. btepnen Paul Ross contributed $1,000 to Maurice Ferre. Mr. Plummer.: Are you concluded Rose? Mrs Gordon: I've concluded the conflict of interest statement. All of these.' matters relating to transactions that have been done with the City and campaign contributions which have been received and definitely are in violation of the code. Mayor Ferre: You have missed an awful lot of than. How about Alvah Chapman and the Miami Herald and others that I would be happy to give you. Would the Clerk send me a copy of Mrs. Gordon's statements so I can send it to all of the people mentioned. I'm sure they'll be very interested, so that they can become even more substantial contributors and helpers in my re-election campaign. 179 Irtp 1 3 WI AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE PAYMENT OF $10,000 TO 44. CHANNEL 23 Mayor Ferre: Now, if you would take up item number 28. Mr. Lacasa: Mayor Ferrer Plummer, you I know, i t . And -it is moved by Armando Lacasa. Further discussion? seconding that? . Plummer:, Can I have some more information? Mayor Ferre: That was that thing that had to do with Mexico, or', something or other. The films. Mr. Grassie: About 9 months ago, Commissioner, Channel 23 came to the City 'with the proposition that they attempt to put on a special feature program which would run 4 half hour segments on the City of Miami And they indicated that they could probably get a latin audience, an excess of 20,000,000 people for this show. I have reports. Mayor Ferre: I though...we've...we've already voted for this, thing. We voted for it once I' remember voting for it... Mr. Grassie: I'd to explain°it Mayor Ferre: be happy not What? Mr. Grassie: I'd be happy` not:to.explain it. You asked me.too. Mayor Ferret Reboso;was the one who; moved it. It goes back..., Mi.,Grassic: No, that's not true, sir,, it has not been voted on the City C;;:,, rission. Mr. Plummer: Are we obligated? Has it been done? Mr. Grassie: It has.been done.: They have performed the service. Technically, we are not obligated in the sense that we do not ;have a contract with them`,;but.`. Mrs: Gordon: Who ordered the work done? Mr.' Grassie without..'. Mrs. Gordon: n terms, they agreed to do it on a contingent basis Who ordered it -to be.done-ona contingent basis? Mr. Grassie:. Well, finally I did. :It was done through our,. Publicity Department. But, you know, if iesponsibility;isto be assigned to anybody, it's me. Mrs. Gordon: Your Publicity Department did not authorize it to be` done, you did? Mr. Grassie: Eventually, yes. No question about it. - Mrs, Gordon:,Well, on a contingency basis, when you ordered it to be 180 ist SEP 13 1979 done, �-on ;"what:.,why;would you not have before you ordered'it to,be done? brought it to this Commission Mayor Ferrel `'I'm pretty sure we voted on this before.' Mrs. Gordon: We never voted on this. Grassie Because they didn't have a product,' Commissioner.. Mrs. Gordon: They:;didn't what? Mr. Grassie: They did not have a product, They didn't have anything. Mr. Mrs: Gordon: Well then, why; would. we owe something for something they• didn't have?_'And why: would you even have told them ona contingency basis? That's a...I would assume a contingency is a promise:to pay • if'a''product is produced. And apparently,. you took that upon yourself' without authorization of this -Commission.. Mr. Grassie: I took the responsibility to bring it to the City:. Commission, Commissioner. Mayor Ferre: And you. did right, and Icommend:you` for it. And as; I understand it it wasra.highly successful -program and I'll second the motion. Mr' . Plummer:.. The work has been done and accomplished? Mr. Grassie:That is correct. :We:got more than our monies in theestimation of our department. worth Mr. Plummer: Motion made to approve item 28 Seconded: motion made' by Lacasa, seconded by Ferre. Any-further=discussions <Ca11the roll:' The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner'Lacasa who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-626 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO REIMBURSE CHANNEL 23 IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 FOR THEIR PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS THROUGHOUT MEXICO AND THE UNITED STATES IN BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, USING DEPARMENTALLY BUDGETED FUNDS (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Mayor and adopted by the following vote: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: None on Ferre, the resolution was passed`' Commissioner Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre *Commissioner Rose Gordon *Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer Jr. CoMnnissioner-(Rev.):Theodore'R. Gibson COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE: *Mrs. Gordon: I'm not going to penalize Channel 23 for what I consider the Manager's error And the Manager certainly should have recognized the fact that before he commits a channel or anybody else to do a SEP 131979 job, he's.to get authorization from the Commission. Andnoot:.tdo, it an the basis "of his,' own ".feelings and his own*desire. I'll vote yes. The job was done, we Would you also... owe the money • Mr: Plummer: You're out of order. Mayor Ferre:Give me the copies. No, I've -got the Chair back Give'.me a copy of Mrs. Gordon's statement on that' one too, would; you, please, Mr. Clerk whenever you have. time. • • SEP 131979 45. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT: IO LEY (in connection with . of Miami Interamerican Transporation Conference). Mayor Ferre: Item 29. Authorizing the City Manager to enter into a contract with Evelio Ley & Associates. Call the roll. (Moved by Plummer, seconded by Lacasa) The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 79-627 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND EVELIO LEY & ASSOCIATES, INC., TO COORDINATE, FOR AND IN BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, THE INTER-AMERICAN TRANPORTATION CONFERENCE, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREFOR FROM 4TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $37,244.00. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. resolution was passed 46. RATIFY ACTIOa OF SUBMIT GRANT-IN-AID APPLICATIONi FOR THE CITY MANAGER: -PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LITTLE HAVANA AREA. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION 79-628 RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND AFFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN SUBMITTING A GRANT-IN-AID APPLICATION TO THE UNITED STATES COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, RECOMMENDING DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION DATED JUNE 22ND, 1979 FOR CERTAIN PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LITTLE HAVANA AREA AND DECLARING THE CITY'S INTENTION TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY MATCHING FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City 183 Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution vas passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Dt 47. PUBLIC HEARING: MAINTAIA GENERAL OPERATING MILLAGE AT 10 MILLS AND DECREASE DEBT SERVICE HILLAGE BY .527 MILLS. Mayor Ferre: Do we have anything else, Mr. Manager? Mr. Grassie: Item 41, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: What is that? Mr. Grassie: Mayor Ferre: We went through that, didn't we? s the public hearing on the millage. Mr. Grassie: No, we went through the budget public hearing separate public hearing which is required of us. Mayor Ferre: .I beg your pardon. Is there anybody here who wants to the public hearing? Oh!, surprise. Mr. Joel Jaffer: Joel Jaffer, I don't know where my address is anymore. Mr. Grassie, in your inimicable way, I would like you to explain to me how you can have a millage of nine point ...whatever it is, but actually have a millage of 10, or whatever it is, since I couldn't have the appropriate documents. Mayor Ferre: Do you want to answer that of this gentleman of the public who has asked a public question? speak on Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, I'd be happy to answer any question of the City Com- mission. Any member of the public who seriously wants answers to this sort of thing, of course, has access to them at any time. The purpose of this hearing is going to be described for you by Howard Gary, that I think will answer most of your questions and if there is any question remaining I will be happy to try and clarify that. Mayor Ferre: Okay, any other statements? If not, do we need a motion on this? Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Grassie, how much of a difference...or Mr. Gary, how much of a difference in dollars would it amount to in the budget if we didn't raise the total millage at all? Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, you understand that we are not raising the millage. If we could let Mr. Gary explain to you what the millage circumstance is, then I'll try and answer your specific questions with regards to dollars and so on. Mrs, Gordon: I understand the procedure. I know that the State law requires that to lower the 10 mills to 9.3 something...? Mr. Howard Gary: No, may I explain it and then probably you will ask some ques- tions later that I'll be glad to answer. I have a copy of a memo from me to the City Manager, which is approved, explaining the reason for us having the millage rate that we have. I'll pass that to you. I also have copies available for the public, too. I'd like to explain to you what the proposed millage is and why this public hearing is required. First of all, the millage rate for the City of Miami mh 184 SEP 13 1979 for the current year, totally, including debt service, is 14.487 mills. Now, that comprises AO mills for the General Fund, 4.487 mills for debt service. For the current year, we are proposing the same millage rate of 10 mills with 3.96 mills for debt service for a total of 13.96 mills for a millage reduction of .527 mills, more than half a mill. Now, I'd like to begin the discussion by first saying that my view of the State law is not too favorable. The reason for that is that the State has required us on the one hand to have a public hearing where we plan to exceed the certified millage rate which, for this year, is 9.324. However, this conflicts the new State law which permits municipalities to increase their assessed valuation,..excuse me, increase their certified millage rate by 5% and to further increase it to cover Union contracts. Now, we did that calculation in our office and we found out that if we increased our millage rate in accordance with the permissible increases that the State gives us, our tax rate will be 10.216 mills, which exceeds the 10 mill rate. Now, on the other hand they tell us that we have to advertise, so there is a conflict there. In any event, we are proposing that the millage rate for this year for the General Fund remain the same at 10 mills as well as the debt service being 3.96, for a total millage of 13.96, which is over half a mill less than the current year. Now, apart from the requirement of the conflict of the State law, it says that we must explain the reasons for .. exceeding the certified millage. Even though we are exceeding the certified millage I want to impress upon you that our millage rate for the General Fund is still the same as the current year's. Mrs. Gordon: What will the taxpayers have to pay who has received a tax assess- ment higher than they had last year? And that's what's the basis for the re- quired reduction in the millage rate for the General Fund. They will have to be paying as I understand it even though there is a .57 reduction beyond, below, last year's total millage, they will still be paying a tax increase because of the higher assessment rate. And that's the basis for the request to lower the caps from 10 to something less than...by the law. Now,it's true that our debt service has been decreased which fortunately lowers the whole package somewhat but it doesn't lower it to the same degree that we are required by law to lower the General Fund millage. The difference is .2, approximately. Mr. Grassier Commissioner, when you say "required by law" of course, that's incorrrect, if we were required by law to lower itwe would do it. Mrs. Gordon:` Or advertise that you are going we advertised what we did. not doing it", that's why Mrs. Grassie: Exactly, that is the purpose of this public hearing, to indicate that difference. Now, let me see if I can answer your question this way. The tax, the millage cut of the City is approximately 6%. If the value of a house goes up by 12%, then the person would end up paying an additional 6% of tax, in other words, if the assessment goes up, 12%, we have reduced our millage by 6%, the net effect out-of-pocket of what the person has to pay would be going up hi. And then you'd have to apply that sort of calculation to any given home to get an answer to your question of what will be the impact on the home owner, but basically, you know, you have to know whether or not a person's home was actually re -assessed in the year in question to know what the effect on that person's out-of-pocket tax payment would be. Mrs. Gordon: I understand the process totally, I know exactly how it's done and I know for what reasons it's done,and I know why we have to advertise it and, thereiuLe, I'm saying to you that the debt service portion has been re- duced but that doesn't off -set the fact that the General Fund portion should likewise be reduced..' Mayor Ferre: All right,are there any other statements in this public hearing? If not, the public hearing is now complied with and Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a comment, if I may, the second require- ment of the State law states that the City Commission must, at this time, de- cide when the second public hearing on this matter will be held. Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes, I'm glad you mentioned that. We also have item No. 6 which is the scheduled Agenda of the Department of Management and Budget, the Budget schedule, and I think in it you are recommending that the second public hearing be on the 27th, is that correct? mh 185 SEP 13 1979 Mayor Ferre: Well, I would move that this whole thing be adopted as. Mr. Ongie: It's already been advertised, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: It's already been advertised, well, ;what .is there to move? Does anybody have any objection to this schedule? Mr. Grassie to you. Mr. Gary: (BACKGROUND COMMENTS EXCHANGED OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: All right, anything else? 48. CHAOGE DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR "DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT 00 THE PORT OF MIAMI." Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now going to change the advertised public hearing on Zhe Regional Impact hearing on the Port of Miami from the 22nd to the 20th. All right, Lacasa moves, Plummer seconds, further discussion, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 79-629 A MOTION AMENDING THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PORT OF MIAMI;DEVELOPMENTAL REGIONAL IMPACT, SUCH PUBLIC HEARING iO BE RE -SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE NOVEMBER 20, 1979. Upon beingseconded by Comissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and by the following. vote-. AYES Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice MayorJ.L.Plummer Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: ABSENT: NJi.C. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson adopted' 49. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: SPECIAL MEETING SEPTEMBER 25, 1979, - SECOND PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED USE OF FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS. Mr. Ongie: Mr Mayor Ferre: which is 25th . Mayor, do you want to make a motion on that Special Meeting? Yes, there is a motion on the Special Meeting on 9-25-79, of September, rather than the 27th, at what time? Eight P.M.? Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: All right, moved; by Plummer, second by Lacasa, further discussion, call the roll. 186 mh SEP 13 1979 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer its adoption: who moved RESOLUTION NO.'.79-630 A RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A SPECIAL. CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR CONTINUATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE `,PROPOSED .USE .OF` FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING FUNDS FOR SEPTEMBER 25, 1979, AT 8:00,P.M. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file+ in the Offie of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa,' passed and adopted`by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Armando Lacasa Commissioner Rose Gordon Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson he resolution was; 50. DISCUSSION ITEM: ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR CITY COMMISSIONERS' OFFICES. Mayor Ferre: There is a...do you want to move it? Mr. Lacasa: I'm going to move it. I'd like to move a Resolution establish- ing four additional positions with an entry salary of approximately $1,000 per month per position to be allocated one to each Commissioner's office in order to off -set the loss of special services now provided by the Department of Tourist Promotion. Mayor, Ferre: All right, moved by Lacasa. all to get/an additional...` Mrs. Gordon: secretaries the Mayor's Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gordon: s there a second? This is for you. I object. It has nothing to do with the...getting additional. or aides or whatever we want to call them and the conditions in office has nothing to do with the reduction of the Tourist... ve got nothing to do with it. Mayor Ferre: Well, the Mayor has nothing todo with it, it doesn't. Mayor one way or the other. Mrs. a copy of that?',I don't have a copy. MayorFerre: Just strike -that portion of it, and that's what he read. was the itemstruck.''The Mayor 'is not in any way involved with this. COMMENTS. OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) struck, Rose Gordon. Mayor Ferre: "Four' not "five". The Mayor reduced his budget this set an: example which wasn't followed by some people. With money being as tight as it is, every dollar counts. mh 97 SEP 13 1979 are trying to find the dollars for Day Care, we are trying to find the money to fund all these other programs, we are trying to hire more policemen, we are trying to hire more firemen, we are trying to provide this community with essential services and here we are, trying to use up the money that we may be saving a few dollars by the reduction in the Tourist Department, in the Publi- city Department. I find it ridiculous even to consider that this Commission would even consider such a thing. Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the motion? (Repeat). Hearing none, the motion dies for lack of a second. 51. STRAW BALLOT FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR "WATSON ISLAND". Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else to come before this Commission? Mrs. Gordon: I have a Resolution providing for the holding of a referendum ejection in the City of Miami, Florida, at the Regular Election scheduled for November 6, 1979 upon the question of approving a development project known as Watson Island and permitting the City to issue $55,000,000 of Revenue. Bonds in support of the Watson Island project. I so move. Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the motion? (Repeat). Mrs. Gordon: This referendum is a Straw Ballot which will simply allow the people who vote in the City of Miami to say whether or not they wish to have a theme park on Watson Island. Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to the Motion? This is the same motion Mrs. Gordon has previously made on two different occasions. Mrs. Gordon: I never offered a Straw Ballot before, Mr. Ferre, this is Straw Ballot, and the Manager has assured me that the wording as it is presently being presented to you is exactly that. I questioned him on the wording mysei;, and he said this was a Straw Ballot. Mayor Ferre: ror the last time, is there a second to the motion? Mrs. Gordon: leis is a Straw Ballot simply to ask the people their opinion., Just like the beer in the Orange Bowl was a Straw Ballot. I think this is equally or more important than the beer was. Mayor Ferre: Hearing no second, this motion dies for lack of a second. Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else to come up before this Commission' Mrs. Gordon: Gentlemen, now, I wish somebody could tell me why is•Watson Island such a sacred cow? Mayor Ferre: You voted for it for two years, you voted fourteen.... Mrs. Gordon: Yes; but it wasn't this kind of a deal as it is today. Today it's a give away of the public's land and it's a give away of the monies that the City desperately needs to provide its services, and it's a guarantee of $20,000,000 which we can ill afford to guarantee while the developer receives.. The guarantee... ..a fixed sum without any risk whatsoever. . Mayor Ferre: The guarantee for $20,000,000 was there for fourteen times and you voted for it. That didn't seem to bother you then. Now, it seems to bother mh SEP 13 1979 you since.... Mrs. Gordon: Tremendously. Mayor Ferre: ...let me finish,'I didn't interrupt you. It seems to bother you tremendously, you know, now six months before Elections you get all this conscience. You know, you get conscience about beet in the Orange Bowl, you start changing your vote on this, you start changing your vote on that, you know, now all of a sudden you are against Watson Island, you voted for it fourteen times, the fact is...the fact is that this matter is well on its way and we are going to move with it, Mrs. Gordon, and you can huff and puff, and do all you want, but we are moving. Mrs. Gordon: Mr. Ferre, , would you simply answer we one thing. Do you in your good conscience "or in any conscience;""good or`bad, believe that the deal that you are proposing" now la the same deal that was proposed in 1977? Mayor Ferre: In the first Mr. Grassie and staff have it.... Mrs. place, it is not my deal, it is an agreement that negotiated for the City. I had nothing to do with Gordon: You are supporting it. Mayor Ferre: Would you.just let" mefinish it? In the second place, not only am I supporting it but four other members of this Connnission are, supporting"it,; so it is the clear majority Of this Commission, and up"until a few weeks ago you were supporting it too. Mrs. Gordon: Oh, no, Mr. Ferre, you have a very peculiar way of mixing up numbers. You mixed up the numbers before on your son in-law's employment to being a week and two days when it was a considerably longer priod than that. And now you are mixing up the few weeks that you are talking about. Now, that's all right, let the people speak anyway even if you won't let them hearr from you. Mayor Ferre: They hear from me very clearly. I'm strongly for the Watson Island project. Is there anything else? END OF DISCUSSION. 52. DISCUSSION ITEi4: COST OF LIVIAG INCREASES TO RETIREES. Mayor Ferre: I5 there anything else? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to place before this Commission two things which were requested of the Pension Board. I will ask Chief Jaremko if he wishes to distribute to each member of this Commission for their edifi- cation....can I please?...This is something that was requested of the Pension Board by this Commission and I would like to respond. That which is being placed in your hands now are two items which the Commission asked the Pension Boards to respond. We do not intend to take action this evenine but we hnpe that you will read this prior to the next budget meeting at which time this matter will coma forward that is in relation to the proposed policy and Reso- lution by the Finance Director regarding Pensions and it is a full and complete report. The second item is the cost of living increase to the retirees. This is a full Report that the Commission asked the Pension Board to come back with. We want to bring it up further at the next budget meeting, Mr. Mayor. 189 SEP 13 1979 53. MAYOR FERRE'S COMMENTS LURE: False or Malicious Charges against Opposing Candidates Mayor Ferre: All right, I would like to, on the record, read Election Code violations and Penalties, Chapter 104.271 -"False or Malicious charges against opposing candidates with penalties.- Any candidate who,in a Primary Election or other election, willfully charges an opposing candidate partici- pating in such election with a violation of any provision of this code, which charge is known by the candidate making such charge to be false or malicious, is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in S.775.O82 or S.775.083, and, in addition, after his conviction shall be disqualified to hold office. I stand on that and we are adjourned. There being.,no further business to come before the City Commission, on motion'duly madeand seconded, the meeting was adjourned at.9:'40P.M ATTEST,: RALPH G. ONGIE. City Clerk MATTY HIRAI Assistant Citjr Clerk 190 MAURICE A. FERRE Mayor SEP 131973 CITjY OF IWAM1 DOCUMENT MEETING DATE: INDE September 13, 1979 1 ITEM NO 4 DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION COMMISSION 1 RETRIEVAL ACTION CODENO. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF VERSAILLE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTORS, INC. AT A COST OF $52,315.00, CONTINENTAL BUILDING SERVICES, INC. AT A COST OF $203,856.00 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO'EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT AMENDING THE. ORIGINAL CON- TRACT FOR THE ROCKWELL AUTOMATIC FINGERPRINT SYSTEM, DATED JUNE 23,.1977 DESIGNATING THE LATIN COMMUNITY RIVERFRONT PARK PROJECT A CATEGORY "B" PROJECT UNDER ORDINANCE NO. 8965 ADOPTED JULY 23, 1979 RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND APPROVING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN ISSUING A CHECK IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,200 FOR PARTLY DEFRAYING THE TRAVEL EXPENSES OF THE MIAMI BANDITOS SOFTBALL TEAM APPOINTING AARON J. MANES AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING AND ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 1979 APPOINTING NOEMI A. FREEDMAN TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD UNTIL DECEMBER 10, 1980 ESTABLISHING AN ADVISORY BOARD IN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM TO BE KNOWN AS THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEVELOP- MENT ADVISORY BOARD AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO MONTRESS JENKINS WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIA- BILITY, THE SUM OF $7,407.00 IN FULL AND COM- PLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY. AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO SILVA FERRER AND RAPHAEL FERRER , WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $7,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY. AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO ARMANDO CUSIDO AND ANA CUSIDO, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $35,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY R-79-574 R-79-575 R-79-576 R-79-577 R-79-578 R-79-579 R-79-580 R-79-581 R-79-582 R-79-583 0001 79-574 79-575 79-576 79-577 79-578 79-579 79-580 79-581 79-582 79-583 1� CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE ACTION OF THE CITE MANAGER IN EXTENDING THE BREATHING APPARATUS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE SURVIVAIR DIVISION OF U.S. DIVERS COMPANY R-79-584 79-584 DOCUMENTiNDEX CONTINUED .Tee NO. DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION _ _ACTION RETRIEVAL CT1OK COI E NO. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5463-S ORDERING CORAL SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5463-C ORDERING LYNDALE`SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462-C ORDERING LYNDALE SR-5462-C SEWER' ::IMPROVEMENT ACCEPTING THE BID OF'MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 79-351 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND NEW YORKERS ANONYMOUT', INC AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION LICENSES TO ALL FLORIDA SANITATION SERVICE INC. ACCEPTING THE FOLLOWING BIDS FOR FURNISHING THE DEPARTMENT OF LEISURE SERVICES WITH GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION MATERIALS: BID OF DEBRA TURF & EQUIPMENT CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $13,862.00 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY WEBB GENERAL CONTRACTING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $155,388.00 FOR THE CENTRAL MINI PARK-1978 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY FRISA CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $608,921.10 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY ED RICKE AND SONS AND LARRY RICKE AND JAMES RICKE AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,971.48 FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICE FACILITY -MAINTENANCE BUILDING ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY ROSSER ELECTRIC CO., INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $102,550.00 FOR THE NORTHWESTERN HIGH SCHOOL FIELD LIGHTING AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT FL-09-0038 BETWEEN DADE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SERVICES RENDERED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACCEPTING THE BID OF ALLIED ELECTRIC COMPANY FOR FURNISHING COPPER WIRE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF LEISURE SERVICES. ALLOCATING $5,000.00 FROM FIFTH YEAR FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO CONTRACTORS TRAINING & DEVELOPMENT, INC R-79-585 R-79-586 R-79-587 R-79-588 R-79-589 R-79-590 R-79-591 R-79-592 R-79-593 R-79-594 R-79-595 R-79-596 R-79-597 R-79-598 R-79-599 R-79-600 79-585 79-586 79-587 79-588 79-589 79-590 79-591 79-592 79-593 79-594 79-595 79-596 9-597; 9-59.8 79-599 79-600 DOCUMENT4NDEX CONTINUED I .TE?i NO. j DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION COMMISSION RETRIEVAL ACTION COPE NO. 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION NO. 78-620 ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 28, 1978 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY MET CONSTRUCTION, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $29,723,50 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY T&N CONSTRUCTION CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF '• $289,506.69 ACCEPTING THE BID OF SANMAR GENERAL CONTRAC- TORS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $867,000 ACCEPTING THE BID OF L.G.H. CONSTRUCTION CORP. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $837,149 ESTABLISHING NOVEMBER 20, 1979, AS THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PORT OF MIAMI APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PRO- POSED BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PRO- POSED BUDGET OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE OLYMPIA BUILDING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 1979 DESIGNATING COMMISSIONER ROSE GORDON AS THE CITY'S VOTING DELEGATE TO THE 53RD ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 25, 26, AND 27, 1979 RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS OF OCTOBER 25, 1979 AND NOVEMBER 22, 1979 TO TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 30, 1979 AND NOVEMBER 20, 1979 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THE STRUCTURAL STEEL BID IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $1,838,554 TO FLORIDA STEEL CORPORATION FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L KNIGHT CONVENTION CENTER. APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE AGREEMENT AND LEASE FOR DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND MIAMI CEN- TER ASSOCIATES. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDITIONAL- LY AWARD A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER, IN THE PROPOSES AMOUNT OF $26,700,00 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE ATTACHED LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE COCO- NUT GROVE SAILING CLUB R-79-601 R-79-602 R-79-603 R-79-604 R-79-605 R-79-606 R-79-607 R-79-608 R-79-609 R-79-610 R-79-615 R-79-616 R-79-617 R-79-618 79-601 79-602 79-603 79-604 79-605 79-606 79-607 79-608 79-609 79-610 79-615 79-616 79-617 79-618 DOCUMENT4NDEX CONTINUED .TEFL NO. 43 DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION t,Oi IISSION ACTION RETRIEVAL CODE NO. 44 4 4E 47 48 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL OF JERRY'S, INC AUTHORIZING THE MIAMI DOLPHINS TO BEGIN TO SELL BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM IMMEDI- ATELY AT NO COST TO THE CITY, WITH A RETURN TO THE CITY OF TWENTY-FIVE (257) PERCENT OF GROSS BEER SALES REVENUE. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENLARGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRM OF PEAT, MARWICK, MITCHELL & COMPANY,AS APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION RE- SOLUTION NO. 76-733 ON JULY 22, 1976 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO REIMBURSE CHANNEL 23 IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 FOR THEIR PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS THROUGHOUT MEXICO AND THE UNITED STATES IN BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND EVELIO LEY & ASSOCIATES, INC. RATIFYING AND AFFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN SUBMITTING A GRANT-IN-AID APPLICATION TO THE UNITED STATES COMMERCE DEPARTMENT R-79-620 R-79-624 R-79-625 R-79-626 R-79-627 R-79-628 79-620 79-624 79-625 79-626 79-627 79-628