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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1980-01-10 MinutesC ISSION UTES1r OF MEETING HELD ON January 10, 1980 (REGULAR) PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK CITY HALL JIINUTE Ell CIT 0111M1ISSIuOF MIAMI•EIARIDA (REGULAR) JANUARY 104 1980 3RDINANCE OR SOLUTION NO, PAGE NO, 12 13 14 15 (APPROVE MINUTES OF JULY 23,-1979 REGULAR AND PLANNING DISCUSSION AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS DISCUSSION OF TRANSITION OF EMPLOYEES, SUBJECT TO M-80-1 LAYOFF AND STATING CITY COMMISSION POLICY ON SAME FINAL REPORT FROM THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE ON THE DISCUSSION FY'80 BUDGET DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF DATES FOR POWER AND SAIL DISCUSSION BOAT AND SUNNER BOAT SHOWS MIAMI STADIUM/MIAMI-GARMENT DISTRICT INTERCHANGE STUDY M-80-2` ACCEPT STUDY & REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH APPROPRIATE STATE OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF THE INDUSTRY REVIEW OF BUDGET REQUEST SUBMITTED BY MODEL CITIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD SPECIAL TAXING' DISTRICT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY STUDY BY GLADSTONE ASSOCIATES, INC. PRESENTATION' OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEMONSTRATION PROJECT BY NATIONAL URBAN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CORPORATION MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT-MIAMI AS POSSIBLE LOCATION CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-6315-C CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT>SR-5315-S AMEND SECTIONS 16-38 THROUGH 16-46 OF THE CODE, PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT AND OPEN COMPETITIVE BIDDING BEFORE SALE, CONVEYANCE OF DISPOSITION OF REAL PROPERTY ESTABLISH RATES: PARKING METERS,' DECAL RATES AND MUNICIPAL PARKING GARAGES NOS. 1, 3 AND 4 AMEND SECTION 39-2 OF THE CODE -ESTABLISH SURCHARGE FEE FOR USE OF CITY SHOWMOBILES`OUTSIDE CITY OF MIAMI SECOND READING ORDINANCE: MODIFYING 1980 BUDGETS FOR THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS,ETC. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE' NO.9019 BY APPROPRIATING FROM THE BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, $400,000 FOR THE NEW CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OFFICE FURNISHINGS 19 PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ANNETTE EISENBERG-RE:' OKTOBERFEST 1979 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION R-80-3 R-80-4 ORD. 9052 ORD. 9053 ORD. 9054 ORD. 9055 DISCUSSION ORD. 9056 DISCUSSION 1-8 9-11 11-13 13-15 15-20 20-28 28-35 36 44 45 45 46-47 40-49 48-49 50 51 52_58 58 20 SECOND READING ORDINANCE: REPEALING ORD. NO. 8994 WH1CH ASSESSED FEES FOR SPECIAL OFF -DUTY POLICE SERVICES AND SUBSTITUTING AN ORDINANCE OF SIMILAR SUBSTANCE M-80-5' 59-68 �TFA1 ND, Its CIIMSSIolfOF MIAMI, FLDRIDA (REGULAR) JANUARY 10, 1980 SUBJECT PAGE #2 INANCE0�j sOLUTION NO, PAGE N0. 21 SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORD. ORD. 9057 69 NO. 8719 BY AMENDING THE RAPID TRANSIT STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT TRUST AND AGENCY FUND AND ESTABLISHING TWO NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUNDS ENTITLED - RAPID TRANSIT STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT II AND DOWNTOWN PEOPLE MOVER PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PROGRAM I 22 AUTHORIZING CITY TOINATHEDLATINSECOND COMMUNITYPRIZE ' R-80-6 70 OF $2,500 FOR THIRD PLACE RIVERFRONT PARK DESIGN COMPETITION 23 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ACQUIRE TWO APPRAISALS IN R-80-7 70. ORDER TO ESTABLISH FAIR RETURN TO CITY FROM POSSIBLE LEASE OF THE MARINE STADIUM AND TO PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR COMPETITIVE PUBLIC BIDS. 24 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT CO., R-80-8 71 INC-CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L.KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE CENTER -PHASE II. 25 ADOPTING THE FIRST STAGE LAND ACQUISITION PLAN OF THE R-80-9 72 OVERTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN 26 ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL STATIONERS,INC.-OFFICE FURNITURE R-80-10 72 27 ACCEPT BID: T & N CONSTRUCTION COMPANY,INC.-POINT VIEW R-80-11 73 HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BID "A", (HIGHWAY). V8 AUTHORIZING PROPER OFFICIALS OF CITY OF MIAMI TO R-80-12 75 ACCEPT THIRTY-FIVE WARRANTY DEEDS AND APPROVING RECORDING OF SAID DEEDS IN PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY 29 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF R-80-13 75-76 CONDEMNATION, A TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING LOCATED AT 176 NORTHWEST NORTH RIVER DRIVE FOR THE SUM OF $230,000 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. 30 AUTHORIZING DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY CARLOS M. R-80-14 76-77 TORRES THE SUM OF $15,000 AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY 77-81 31 APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS TO THE ENVIROMENTAL M-80-15R-80-16 PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD. 32 APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY R-80-17 81-85 BOARD 43 APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE ZONING ADVISORY BOARD M-80-18 86-90 R-80-19 14 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT R-80-20 91-93 WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES,LTD., TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKING PROVISIONS OF THE LEASE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN. THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD. (CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER) *ITEM ND, INCE7( CIiNISSIQJ OF MIAMI, FLORIIl4 REGULAR JANUARY 10 1980 PAGE #63 SUBJECT 35 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR TURNKEY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING GARAGE 36 FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING 1980 BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM AND PROMOTION 37 APPOINTING COMMISSIONER JOE CAROLLO TO THE MIAMI CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT BOARD. 38 ITEMS'31 AND 32 DEFERRED TO WORKSHOP SESSION ON JANUARY 22, 1980 AT 3:00 P.M. 39 CHANGE MEETING DATE FROM FEBRUARY 14TH TO FEBRUARY 12TH 40 CHANGE MEETING DATE FROM MARCH 13TH TO MARCH 18TH 41 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED TO STATE OF FLORIDA FOR CITY'S INTERAMA PROPERTY 42 AUTHORIZING AND URGING THE BOARD OF COUNTY. COMMISSIONERS OF DADE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI-. 43 CONFIRMING RESOLUTION FOR MEETING DATE CHANGE OF MARCH 13TH TO MARCH 18TH 44 45 46 QRDINANCE OR t SOLUTION MO, CONFIRMING RESOLUTION FOR MEETING DATE CHANGE OF FEBRUARY 14TH TO FEBRUARY 12TH DISCUSSION ON MINORITY BANKS -(CAPITAL BANK,NATIONAL, AMERIFIRST, ETC.) REPORTS ON OVERTOWN DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE, INC. 47 DISCUSSION ON WATSON ISLAND R-80-21 ORD. 9058 R-80-22 DISCUSSION DISCUSSION (later R-80-29 M-80-24 R-80-25 M-80-26 R-80-27. R-80-28 R-80-29 DISCUSSION M-80-30 DISCUSSION PAGE NO. 93 95 101 102 103 103 104 107-112 113 113 114-117 117-131 132-134 r+ ABSENT: MINUTESOF REGULAR METING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA * * * * * * *'* On the loth day of`January,,1980, the City Commission of Miami, Florida met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in regu- lar session. The meeting was called to order at 9:10 O'Clock A.M.;by Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa with the foliowing members of the Commission` found to be present: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner` (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa ABSENT: ALSO PRESENT: Joseph R.'Grassie, City Manager George F. Knox, City Attorney ".tatty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk An invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre APPROVE rI'r1UTKS OF JULY 23, 1107S RT:GLLLIIR ',`' 1) PLJNAIIIG AND ZO"NIJG COMISSION T'EETrAGS. A motion to approve the minutes of the July 23, 1979 Regular and Planning and Zoning Commission Meetings was introduced by Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. and seconded by Reverend Gibson and passed by a unan- imous vote of the Commissioners present. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. 2. DISCUSSIO'1 OF Ta':.JSITIO1•7, Or E LnLOYnES . SUSJECT ':•J I,AYOFF AND STATING CITY CUILIss io:z POLICY O! S "!7] . Mr. Grassie: This, Commissioner Lacasa and members of the City Commis- sion is an updating report for your information. I would like the Director of HRD, Mr. Bob Krause to review briefly with you the status of all of those positions. Mr. Robert Krause: Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the Commission, we met on this subject two weeks ago the Commissioners asked for certain kinds of information which we, prepared for the City Manager in two mernes on January-2nd. One dealt with the personnel actions that had taken place in the City between October 15th and December 27th which was re- quested by the Commission plus information on the City Manager's own appointees. I' believe that memo has been furnished to you along with the attachments. The second memo which was also dated January 2nd discussed the status of the 65 employees who were placed in what has been called the Special Fund for a 90 day period pending lay-off and pending efforts to place them in City positions. When I spoke to you two weeks ago our 01 JA11 1 0 best guess at that time was that we would only be able to place about 25 or 30 of the employees and that we would have to layoff about 35 to 40. Since that time the staff in HRD has been working very diligently on this subject. We have contacted all of the departments that had vacancies that might be filled by employees in the special fund. We referred those employees for interviews for any kind of job that they might conceivably be qualified for and those who had not already been placed in employment were recalled on Mon- day and Tuesday of this week for further counseling sessions with our depart- ment. The results have been changing. really on a daily basis but they have been more encouraging than what I anticipated two weeks ago. The informa- tion that was in my memo of January 2nd is already out of date because this is now the 10th, a week and a day later. As of 5:30 yesterday afternoon this was the status of the 65 employees: 10 of them had been advanced to higher positions in the City government, 4 had been transferred to jobs in their same classification, 12 more are definitely scheduled to be placed by January 17th, the paper work is in process or commitments have been made by the employeeing departments on those 12. Ten people retired, resigned or were dismissed. Six of them have agreed to accept employment as stand-by laborers after January 17, that gives us 42 actual placements which is double what we were anticipating two weeks ago and it leaves us with 23 employees... Mr. Lacasa: How many, Mr. Krause? Mr. Krause: We placed 42, we have 23 who are still scheduled for lay-off. We are still continuing to make referrals and we may find a few more jobs before next week but_I must say that as time goes on it gets a little more difficult than it was, early on. In addition, the employees who are laid off on January 17th will gon a register and can be referred to other jobs in the same class or similar positions in the City. For comparative pur- poses, the last time we had major lay-offs was in 1977, there were about 96 people who were scheduled for lay-off and all of those people were placed in City jobs within a year after they had been laid off. That is they con- tinue to have rights for a period of 18 months to re-employment, we con- tinue to refer them' to City jobs, the last time we had this kind of a site uation everybody who wanted a job got placed within the period of a year. You know that's not intended to be a guarantee but to put in perspective what we're dealing with, the 23 who are remaining unsolved cases. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Krause, I think that you have done a very good job because in the last four months that we have been dealing with this issue the sit- uation was much more negative than the picture that you have presented to us today. However, speaking for myself I would say that we should continue. our efforts to place the remaining 23 so it could be said that the City of. Miami really lives up to its obligation to our employees that have faith- fully discharged their services for the City and that should not be affected by the fact that we have chosen to enter into other types of agreements such as the one that we entered last year with private enterprise in some sub- contracts. So if any member of the Commission wants to comment about this? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Vice -Mayor and; members of the Commission, this may, be hind sight, nonetheless I want to express it before the 23 get lost in the shuffle. I think we should have taken the position that we did not take. We should have said to the Manager, not to the Human Resources Department, to the Manager since I' can't be Manager but I hire the Manager, we should have said the policy of this City should be, and we want to do it today from now on, insist that Human Resources refer and that the referral is have to interview. Let me tell you what bothers.me. I see this in the Search Committee at our church to succeed, to find _a man to succeed me. Okay? Tell you what. We could come up here and verbalize all we wish, Human Resources could say to a department, "We refer". The department can say "Yes, Ok, you refer." And you know what? Unless you demand a report in writing so that if the head of the department is lying you will never know that you're being' had. I don't know if I've made my point clear, let me yo through it again. We ought to demand, we ought to instruct the Man- eeee you know we can't be the Manager but we could issue a mandate, we'd say to the Manager, "You tell every department and you tell Human Resources to refer and that it is known that they had better interview those people and that they must give back a report in writing why." Now, if the person isn't a good worker put it on the record. It is significant that if the person isn't a good worker that you kept him on all this time. I am saying that the loophole is there and I'm saying further that the head of the de- partment can knowe at the very outset he isn't going to take that person and go on -and do it to him. I can't be the head of the department, I'm the Commissioner, that's why they elected me, but I doggone sure can make it impossible, literally impossible because you can always do what you 62 JAN 1 o 198a want to do if you want --to do it and unless you have the will to do it, knowing all we pass will deter you or either prevent you. However, if we pass the law I could come in here and clobber you to death and some people would be afraid to do what they would do ordinarily, you know, have favorites and all that kind of business and all that kind of busi- ness and all that kind of, business. And I think this Commission ought to take policy today and instruct the Manager to instruct his staff that Human Resources says that they are the experts, I'm not. You see, the other thing that I'm not telling you is they will say to us and say to the Manager rightly so, that's what I would do, that's what I'd do to my Bishop, somebody was asking me at the vestry meeting on Tuesday night, said how come the Bishop hasn't been here since he's been made Bishop? I said, well, you know you don't have no authority over his schedule. And I'm saying that we ought to say to the Manager you tell those depart- ments this, is the rule of the game and if we find you doing other than the rules of the game you'll know what is going to happen, you too are going to be looking for another. job. That's what it means. And I think that's the only way you could protect people who have joined this City's staff. Some of them have been here 7 and 8 years. You have a department that I'm worried to hell about - and as a minister I shouldn't have said it that way but that's how I feel, I'm worried about it. Okay? Now you tell me when the time is propitious and I'll make the motion, I hope I'll get a second. I just feel like we must give people all the assurance just like I would want to give the Manager, and that I want to support him, I want to back him up that's why I made him the Manager. And that's why we haveemployed these people, we want to give them every assurance, every assurance that we are concerned, not only we're concerned, that we are determined to do the right thing beckuse I'm not so sure everybody who is on this team is as convinced as I am nor as committed as I am nor will say what I say. You tell me when that time is, Mr. Vice -Mayor, and I'll offer that motion. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you, comment on this issue? Father. Any other member of the Commission Mr. Plummer: How about very briefly? And that's unusual' for J. L.? Mr` Krause, you done a good job, you just haven't; finished. Now very simply, this Commission, if I can try to interpret Father's remarks, is that we don't want those people laid off. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the City Commission, I think that the staff sympathizes with the comments both of Commissioner Gibson and Commissioner Plummer in the sense that no one who has some responsi- bility for employees i;, desirous of laying off an employee because obviously it reflects on the morale of all the remaining people in the City's service. I do think that the question of finding alternate employment is a two-way street. There has to be a sense both on the part of the City of a'commit- ment to find adequate employment for people if that is possible, there also has to be a commitment on the part of theemployee to make some effort to be a part of the solution to do something for his own or her own sake. Now one of the difficulties that HRD has run into is that there has been a cer- tain reluctance on the part of some employees to take any active steps in their own behalf simply because ofuncertainty. They have been uncertain as to whether or not it was necessary. If we continue to give the'impres- sion that really it may not be necessary for them to do anything that, in fact, that they will be carried on the payroll regardless, until somebody finds a solution which is satisfactory to, them what that does is rob the employee of the incentive to do anything to help himself. So I think at the same time that we try to give our employees assurances that we're go- ing to treat them fairly we also have to establish some ground rules which inriicate that the employee has to be part of the solution. He has to want .o solve the problem. There have to be some incentives for the employees It) 1.1x,1wr;,tc its the problem, the solution. And what I'm suggesting to you is; LIt.tt kart_ requires that we have some certainty, some rules and that we simply not say that people are going to stay on the payroll until they're sarisfied. There have to be some rules which give the employee an incen- tive to participate in the solution and I hope that as we come to some con- clusion'on this that our conclusion includes that kind of incentive. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Manager, 1 want to agree with you. I want you to know how I put mine. Man, I'm an old coon. I'm not saying - you and I are to- gether - however, I want to go a step further and I' want to go over and beyond. I want to make sure that when a man is let out every available conceivable measure has been taken and that he was dealth with fairly, 03 honestly and squarely. That's what I'm talking about. I can't do the im- possible, I can't do the, impossible. I am not an expert in hiring and determining qualifications but the Human Resources Department.... is. Now I want to do what you know is the language and policy - c.y.a. Okay? I want a report back when these people are referred that yes, wehave looked at these people, yes we have referred them, this is why. When you don't do that you leave these people at the mercy of who likes who, who wants who - I don't want that. That's what I'm saying and I want the Com- mission to pass a mandate so that you don't have no way out and that you then pass the mandate down since I can't go to the head of Building, you know, but I could come to you - you could go. And then let Building write you and say why and then we ought to get a copy so as to protect.We are the people who could protect these employees. We are the impartial body and I owe them that and that's what I want to happen I think we're to- gether. Mr. Grassier We have no problem with that, Commissioner. Rev. Gibson: All right, beautiful. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Vice -Mayor, very quickly. Mr. Krause or Mr. Grassie, in the memo dated January 2, 1980 from Mr. Krause to Joseph R. Grassie, marked "A", page 2, item 2 - and I'm not going to refer to names or anything like that, but when I see wording that says, "...that department has indicated they do not wish to accept the employee", Mr. Krause, speaking for one that is totally unacceptable to me, sir. 'Mr. Krause: 'I agree, and as a matter of fact that particular problem has been solved but we still have some others that are pending.. Mr. Plummer: Well, sir, you know when you put that in writing.and I read it as far as I'm concerned some discussion needs to be with... What department is it? Well, it is immaterial, I don't want to get into that. All right? But somebody that puts that in writing, that person who has said that that employee is unacceptable, that department head needs to be sat down and to explain to that department head that possibly he needs replacing because he is either running the show or we're running the show, and I'm not speaking, of we, the Commission. Now, when I see something like that as far as I'm concerned I'm going to tell you something I think the job yet has to'be done because that's not acceptable to me. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Sherman, as you know, the Committee of the Whole is a dis- cussion among the members of. the City Commission which is not open for public participation so unless you have some compelling; reasons and some kind of information that.you feel is essential for this Commission to make a deter- mination on this issue I won't give you the floor. Mr. A. G. Sherman: Mr. Vice -Mayor, my name is A. G. Sherman, President of the Miami General Employees Association, AFSCME Local 1907. I'd just like to answer'in response which would be. for the edification of the Commission that the employees that we haveconcerns with that have been referred, I think as the City Manager is referring, are ones that have been referred to the private sector the minimum wage level and these people have no security if they are sent there. I think the direction of this Commission was that these people be.found employment at thesame wage retention as they had previously through City employment and this is what we're seeking. I just wanted to let you know that some of the referrals the. Manager is referring to is in the private sector where there is no security and a loss of wages. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you, Mr. Sherman. Any other member of the Commission wishes to speak to speak on this issue? Mr. Plummer: Yes, somebody else has to speak but I don't think it is on the. agenda. The problem as I see it at this point is that the funding for these people is terminated on the 17th. Mr. Grassier And if I could bring up another point, Mr. Vice -Mayor? Mr. Plummer: Please do, because.,if you don't I am. Mr. Grassier I think that the statement that was just made by A. G. is not a correct reflection of what the City Commission has stated in the past and specifically Commissioner Plummer is the person who said that he wanted to be employees but he wanted to make sure that they were not being selfish. oat JAN 1 01980 Mr. Plummer: No, the statement that Mr. Plummer made if you're going to use Mr. Plummer is that we were looking for the needy not the greedy. When you quote me if you would do it properly I would appreciate it. Mr. Krause: Yes, sir, we have used that in discussions with department directors and with the employees.. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Krause, let's don't play games with each other, I try not to, I guess sometimes maybe it is misconstrued. Mr. Krause, if you were working for the City of Miami, and today I'm happy to tell; you contrary to what some people would write that ten years ago when I'' went with this City the City of Miami ernployees were second class citizens and I wasn't proud of that. But today,I will tell you that my employees, and I consider them mine, are first class in their salaries, their benefits and they can hold their head high that they're not second class people. Okay? There has been criticism of that but I have no problem with that. Mr. Krause, if you termin- ate a person with the City, who has built up a period of longevity and senior ... ityand you muster them to the outside they lose all of that, you know that and I' know that - any pension benefits they might have, any accrued credits that they might have, they lose all of that, sir, because they have in real- ity to start all over again and I think that the thing that is said, there is a big difference between standing on the outside looking in than. on the inside looking out. And all I have said all the way along, and will continue to say is that we should protect those people who are working with the City as much as humanly possible but 1 can fully understand the reluctance of peoplewho don't want to lose their seniority, their longevity and go to the outside and look for another job. I understand that and I think you understand that but you're not in the same position nor is Mr. Grassie be- cause you know, as this thing goes - Hey, Mr. Grassie has had three or four jobs and you've probably have three or four jobs, you know, who knows you might leave here next year or the year after but as administrators it is not as a permanent situation as an employee who works for 25 years.' Okay? So all I'm saying to you is we have people who it is inconceivable, Mr.`Krause, for me to believe that you could not find jobs for 23 peopie - not you, your department, please don't take it personal - that 23 jobs would have to be held in abeyance. And if you have to put them into a capacity to where it takes 6 weeks, that's what 2 tried to do at budget time, to train these people to put them into a City job. Hey, I'm tickled pink that these people want to stay with the City, it shows the caliber and that we do have good employees, that they want to stay with the City. And as far as 'I'm concerned I'm will- ing to make one of two motions: One motion that we continue the funding until, the 24th until this subject can be brought back. up or as I really didn't threaten before because I'm ready to do it right now is to put an absolute freeze on hiring. I'm' willing to do either one. Mr. Lacasa: J. L., we are not ready for a motion yet. Mr. Plummer: Fine. I'm not going anywhere. Mr, Lacasa: Sir, I'll give you two minutes. Mr. Michael Cantor: My name isMichaelCantor, I represent AFSCME Local 1907. Seeing as I' was here in the beginning of this affair I thought that I would come back and the first thing I would like to say is I'd like to thank the Com- mission for what they've done for these people and I; also would like to thank the City Manager. and Human Resources. I think that they have done a marvelous'' job in finding this many people employment in such a short period of time :dur- ing a period of time when people know that attritior. in the City is not very high. People don't leave employment during the holidays, that's very well known. And I think the fact that they've done this well in that period of time that there probably, therereally shouldn't be any problem in finding a few remaining people jobs and all that's really needed is for the Commission just to extend the time a little and I'm sure that they'll get it done and we again would like to thank you all. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you very much. Commissioner Carollo? Mr. Carollo: .... Mr. Grassie has said some very pretty words, I compliment you for that, sir, in fact, I think you've done an excellent job, at least it looks that way on paper. However, to me it is absolutely impossible to let these people go. I' can't see laying off people where in some cases they have given six or seven years or more of their lives to the City of Miami. .... Mr. Lacasa: Thank you very, much, I'm ready for a motion. ;t. 1 U �::•E, Mr. Plummer: You've got your choice, which one do you want, A or B? Mr. grassie: Mr. Vice -Mayor, I would suggest to the Commission that,the Com- mission would not want to freeze all hiring because obviously that would pre - Vent us from hiring policemen and firemen and everybody else and that's not in the best interest of the City. I think what you'resaying is that you want to make sure that these employees do not get laid off at least until we go through every possible step as Commissioner Gibson has outlined and in some cases T'm getting the impression that you're saying that they should not be laid off almost under any circumstances. Mr. Plummer: I didn't go that far but I'm right there. Mr. Grassie: Now, there has to be, now keep in mind that we're talking about positions. which almost in their entirety are beginning level positions so . there is no place below, they are the first level positions, the lowest paid positions so we have very little latitude. We have abolished all the posi- tions of that kind and we just don't have a lot of place to go. But we under- stand what your intention is and basically from a humanitarian point of view we agree entirely with you if we can do it. Mr. Plummer: Give me the solution. Mr. Grassie: The only thing that I can suggest to you is that we should establish a rule that every one of these employees should be offered an opportunity for employment with the City at a salary at least equivalent to 80% of what he was making before and if that offer is refused that at some point the City has to be absolved of further responsibility to make'employ- inent for these people. But the understanding among all of us is that it is the City's clear intention that employment be found if not for all for as many as possible and that they will be offered an opportunity to work for the City which has a salary as I say just arbitrarily at least 80% of what they had been making in the past. Rev. Gibson: (First part of statement inaudible) Since I said I was going to make that motion, before I make it I want to use an example someLhing like this. Suppose a man works for the City in one capacity, and this is why I want Human Resources involved. Okay? I want to make sure, Mr. Grassie, this isn't critical of you this is critical of those other fellows who are under you that you don't know nothing about. You know you know them only as I'm the Manager. Okay? That's the way they do in other things, you know, and church is no exception. There's a guy who has worked for the City in position "A", he's done a good job and it just happens that the City doesn't need him in that job anymore. But that same guy went and served the Army, did other kinds of things in the Army and you're now hiring somebody in a new job that isn't presently, working for the City and you could retrain that man to take up over in Job "B". The City is morally obligated to give that man the first crack at the job. That's not what's happening. Do you fol- low me? Mr. Grassie: Is this person who is not on our.... Rev. Gibson: No.. Mr. Grassie: Okay, I understand your point, Commissioner, yes. Rev. Gibson: Mine is a fictitious unknown job and individual. Okay? I'm saying that if you turn this business over to Human Resources they swore when they got that job they had the expertise. They're going to have to sort out all of that and refer the man. 'That's why I want the referral to be a demand and then I want a written report. You see, if you're going to lie wou have to do an awful of tinkling before you write your lie because I learned in coming up black and white don't lie, what lies is the guy who writes the black and white, they tell the lie. Okay? I hope that your department heads would read what I said or either they're listening where they are because I am just as sure as God made green apples some of them are guilty and there is an adjective behind that guilty. .Okay? Mr. Lacasa: Do I hear a second op this? Rev. Gibs'".: The motion is that we mandate the Manager to give me the words. Mr. Plummer: The policy of this Commission is-. 06 JAN 1 0 '1980 • Rev. Gibson: Mr. Manager, I have no -.problem with being educated, you tell me how I could get where I want to go. You heard the way I want to go, you tell me.how to get there. Mr. Plummer: Father Rev. Gibson: No, I'll let him tell me. Mr. Plummer: You'd better be careful, Mr. Knox is turning white. Rev. Gibson: That's all right, he'll turn black again. You watch and`see how long he'll be white. Okay? You tell me, Mr. Manager, because you've got to live with it, you know what I want, you know where I want to go.. You tell me how to get there. Mr. Grassie: It is the policy of this City Commission that no existing City employees be laid off until every effort has been made to find them employment and that in no case shall they be laid off until the question is brought back to the City Commission. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Grassie, employment in the City of Miami. Mr. Grassie: In the City of Miami. Rev. Gibson: And that he.... Mr. Lacasa: And there is another word here, excuse me, Father, comparable - similar employment. Mr. Grassie: Within the standards that I outlined? Mr. Lacasa: Similar within the City of Miami. Mr. Grassie: Within the standards that I outlined, within 80%, not less than 80% of the previous salary. Mr. Lacasa: I don't see why we shouldn't go for 100%, I really do not see why we cannot maintain these employees at the same level that they were before. Mr. Grassie: Well basically, Commissioner, because you don't give us any latitude, you don't give us anything to work with. Now the reality of it is that they are so close to the bottom of the pay scale that there really is not very much down that we can go but you should give us a little latitude. Mr. Plummer: It's a mean man that won't compromise, 90. Rev. Gibson: Well, Mr. Manager, let me say that all you said doesn't do what I want done Mr. Grassie: Okay, where did we miss it? Rev. Gibson: I want you to tell me how to get there. I don't want to be in conflict with the law. Note I love the law because.a law that works for you will work against you. I want that all of these interviews are referred to the department heads or who ever they are to be referred to by Human Resources and that a report be given in writing as to why not - if not, why not. Do you follow? That puts him in an awful predicament and that's what... You tell me how to get there. Mr. Grassie: What you need to do is to add to the policy statement that we were talking about a request for a report from the Manager with regard to every interview in which an employee is turned down by a department so that there is a written report which is available to the City Commission for their review in any case in which an employee referred to a department is refused employment by that department. Mr. Plurruner: I second the motion of Mr. Grassie and Mr. Gibson. Rev. Gibson: Wait, I want the second, J. L., but I don't want the department head to be able',to refuse to accept a referral., Do you understand? Now you word it so that that has to be. You see, he doesn't have to take the man,` listen, he doesn't have to hire the man but he must interview the man. Mr. Grassie: Oh yes, well there's no question about that. JA N 1 0 1980 Rev. Gibson: And not only that, if he doesn't when he interviews the man and he doesn't want the man he must report in writing why. At that point in time he has what you talk about exhausted his administrative remedies. And if I catch him not doing that.I want him fired forthwith, on the spot. Mr Lacasa: Father, let me see if I understand this. If one of these employees is referred to another department and that department for whatever the reason doesn't want'that'employee then we do not construe that as being a -valid referral as far as -having made the efforts on behalf of this employee. In other words that employee will have to be rereferred to another department .and until after a real firm offer is made then that requirement hasn't -been' fulfilled. Because otherwise.... Mr. Grassie: The employee has to get an offer of employment within. the guide-. lines that we talked about. Mr. Lacasa: Okay. Do we have a motion then? Mr. Grassie: Now, just to clarify, I think we're on the same wavelength with Commissioner Gibson, what we're saying is that what we want to avoid is'that the department says no, I will not interview that person, I'm not interested. Now that will not be possible, they will have to give the person a chance to be interviewed and to be considered for the opportunity. Rev. Gibson: And then when he does that if he doesn'twant him he must write I have interviewed John Doe, I do not wish to employ John Doe for these reasons. Mr. Grassie: That's correct. Rev. Gibson: That's right. At of thinking before you turn him Mr. Lacasa: All right, we have: call the roll. that point in down. That's a motion, the time you'll do a hell of a lot my motion. motion has been seconded, please Mr. Krause: Mr. Vice -Mayor, may I raise a question for clarification? Mr. Lacasa: Yes, Mr. Krause. Mr. Krause: There is a technicality that is involved and I want to make sure we haven't lost track of and that is that I spoke to you earlier and said that we had 6 people scheduled for lay-off who were willing to accept employment as stand-by laborers, in a technical sense in order for them to become stand- by laborers they have to be effectively laid -off by the City and then placed on stand-by labor. We have a commitment in writing from Mr. Patterson that he will, in fact, put them to work but I would like to make sure that the. sense of the motion would not.foreclosethat opportunity. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Krause, you know if I'm hungry rules don't mean doggone thing because I can't eat them. I would hope that you will, you and all of the other people would just use common sense. Now, you know if a man is going to get a job, if he is going to•be working every day as a stand-by and you know if that's what he wants to do okay. So whydo you have to come back and bother me? He isn't going to be raising no sin about it and I don't want you to use that as an excuse now. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 80-1 A MOTION STATING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION THAT NO EXISTING CITY EMPLOYEES SHALL BE LAID OFF UNTIL EVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO FIND SUCII EMPLOYEES COMPARABLE EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI WITHIN•80 PERCENT OF THE EMPLOYEES PRESENT SALARY AND IN NO EVENT SHALL EMPLOYEES BE LAID OFF UNTIL THE QUESTION IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION; AND FURTHER REQUESTING THAT IN THE EVENT THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT HIRED THAT A WRITTEN REPORT BE MADE BY THE INTERVIEWING DEPARTMENT HEAD EXPLAINING THE REASONS; FURTHER REQUESTING THAT IF AN EMPLOYEE IS SENT TO A DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPART- MENT CHOOSES NOT TO HIRE THE INDIVIDUAL, THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE REFERRAL NOT TO BE A VALID REFERRAL AND SHALL REQUEST THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT MAKE ANOTHER REFERRAL TO TRY TO PLACE THE INDIVIDUAL. �8 J A N 1 01980 Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passedand adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa NOES; None. ABSENT: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. 3. FINAL REPORT FROM THE BUDGET REVIEW COM I TTEE ON THE FY'80 BUDGET. Mr. John Cosgrove: Mr. Vice -Mayor and Commissioners, I'm glad I have some- thing non -controversial to report like the budget. Ms. Hirai: Your name and address for the record. Mr. Cosgrove: John Cosgrove, 19 W. Flagler Street, Suite;1204- This is a report of the Budget Committee established by this Commission to assist the Department of Budget and Management in formulating the budget for this year. In previous years the budget process entailed the following activities. The Department of Management and Budget prepared an outlook for the ensuing year's budget. This outlook was based on certain assumptions agreed to by the City Manager. Examples of these assumptions were, for instance, that property taxes would increase approximately 5% based on values of local growth; that salaries would increase a certain percentage based on union negotiated con- tracts, inflation, etc.; the federal revenues will increase or decrease by a certain percentage. based on the results of this outlook which usually assumes that services will be maintained at current levels which was what. the City Manager and the City 'Commission wantedto do then we had to deter- mine where we were going to find sufficient revenues to maintain services at the current level. The strategies translated then into budget guidelines and were incorporated into the budget manual which was then submitted to each of the department heads then the City Manager holds a meeting with the depart- ment heads to go over the budget for their departments and to come up with budget alternatives. Those budget alternatives were then submitted to each of the City Commissioners and each member of the budget committee. We then reviewed all of the budget alternatives and tried to make recommendations to the staff and to the City Manager and then to each Commissioner. And then if you recall, each one of, you met individually with the Department of Budget and Management and we had a member of the committee there representing the committee to have citizen input into the budget process. This process of reviewing the budget usually lasts two or three weeks but the process, as you know, of preparing the budget and coming up with the alternatives takes several months work. Then there were public hearings on the proposed bud- get and this activity as you know is required by law and permits the public to voice their opinions regarding the budget. There were twoPublichear- ings before the budget was voted on. Once this process is completed the City Commission made its recommendations and changes and then the budget was adopted. so that's primarily the way the process has been transacted. The d1ff'rences between that process and what happened last year was that for this year citizens were involved and this committee from the beginning of the process rather than merely at the end and this was in the form of the Budget Review Committee established by this Commission. The Budget Committee: was involved in every major facet of the budget process. Depart- ment directors were given the opportunity to assist the City Manager in developing guidelines and alternative decision packages to insure a balanced budget and the committee participated in meeting with the department heads, especially the major departments, the Police Department, the Fire Department to insure that there was some Citizen input into that facet of the budget process. Then the City Manager was able to read the pulse of the community for the first time through having lay persons, non -City staff administrative personnel involved in the budget process and hopefully this like the report 39 J A N 1 0 1980 of the Human Resources Committee added a little sensitivity to an other- wise very boring topic such as the budget. The participation by committee members, we met the third Wednesday of every month for ten months, we also had special meetingsin order to, for instance like meeting with the depart- ment heads and meeting with each of our Commissioners and meeting with the City Manager and his staff. The committee participated in the discussion of the budget outlook with the City Manager and the department directors, discussion of the budget manual for 1980 with Management and Budget, prep- aration and discussion of decision packages with the City Manager and depart- ment'directors, management and budget review of departmental budgets; City Manager discussion with the City Commission on the status of the budget, the City Manager's review of departmental budgets, the City Manager's review and discussion of public hearings for the budget for 1980. Now we had some problems on the committee this year which we want you to be aware of, first of all of the ten members appointed by you, two each by each Commissioner, one resigned and was never replaced, of the nine members remaining, only five attended on a regular basis. With the amount of work that we had to do this severly hampered our participation in the budget process. The staff had to do a lot more work probably this year because not only did they have the request from your office and coming down from the City Manager's Office but also our requests and when we didn't have a full committee to operate it made a greater responsibility and a greater burden on the individuals who were willing to serve and that also permeated to the staff. But we ask you to this year if you choose to continue the Budget Review Committee that you set an attendance policy and also a reappointment` policy or replacement, an attendance policy and a replacement policy to insure that attendance on the committee will be adhered to. According to the resolution which established this committee the responsibility of the committee was expanded from that resolution. You initially established thiscommitteeto just work with the procedures in the budget process and not really to be involved in the sub- stantive issues such as the Day Care Center isssue that was a big budgetary discussion. We inquired our activity to be involved in substantive areas and we had a letter from the City Manager asking us to look into sorne of the substantive areas to make recommendations. Because of the scope and the com- plexity of the budget and the budget process it is my personal opinion and the opinion of the committee` that we were not able to make an effective use of our time and talent as we could have and should have to you the Commissioners to maybe diffuse some of the political issues, the political problems and also to thestaff to aid in making a better budget and a more sensitive budget on some of the substantive issues and those reasons are because the budget is so enormous that we just couldn't get down to a lot of the details. So it is our recommendation that you may want to consider two one year consecutive terms for your appointments on this committee and that those people who did not attend and were not interested not be reappointed but those who were inter- ested be reappointed because now the people who were involved in the process are familiar with the budget and the second year maybe they could make a more detailed and substantitive and beneficial impact on the budget. I think the committee does serve a very proper function, I think that considering that the Miami City Commissioners are elected officials there are going to be political considerations and things and I think that having a citizen lay board non -publicly elected people in the community would help diffuse some of the political heat on the Commissioners, not that any of you would not run to that heat rather than away from it but it is important I think to be able to have regular ordinary citizens review some of the hot issues and try to make a decision that is based on the good of all the community rather than a special interest group that rnay be exerting pressure on a commissioner. And the way that we think we might be able to help do that is for the Budget Committee next year to hold town meetings to discuss the budgetary process prior to the two official public hearings established by this Commission and that, Mr. Vice -Mayor and Commissioners, is the report of the Budget Committee for this year. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you very much, -Mr. Cosgrove. I think I speak on behalf; of the City Commission when I say that we want to thank you for your dedication and the members of the committee and the unselfish cooperation to the City. Mr. Grassie, Mr. Cosgrove has made certain recommendations which might advis- able for you to put in the form of a recommendation to the City Commission for further consideration. Mr. Grassie: We will bring those back t Mayor. you on your next agenda, Mr. Vice Mr. Cosgrove: We have copies of the report that I just to submit to you for your files. rt • 4. DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF DATES FOR POWER AND SAIL BOAT AND SUM`IER BOAT SHOWS. • p�`... �1�sdn zC�},ai +'J.,-�j+1 ��'rtejr•,%.,;,, :-S5� .v i.5\a� Mr. Grassie: Mr. Vice -Mayor, if I may, at your last City Commission Meeting we as the City Commission, the City, made the promise that we would consider Item (D) at 10:00 O'Clock sharp and if I may I would suggest that we stay with that schedule. Mr. Lacasa: Item (D) has been withdrawn. Mr. Grassie: Yes. I do bring it up, however, because that is not a question that is without any disagreement. One of the parties is here and:I believe ready to disagree. The only point that I have to make for you is that it is not the administration which is withdrawing this item. ` -I think all of you know what happened to the attorney for one of the parties, that is the only reason that this is being withdrawn and'I simply wanted to keep you on the schedule that you had promised the public. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you, Mr. Grassi°, let me explain what the situation is to the members to the _Commission. Mr. Logan has requested that this itme be heard today. Mr. Perl's attorney, Mr. Dan Paul, is in the hospital and can not be here for obvious reasons. I don't feel, quite frankly, Mr. Logan that a discussion and an action taken here today will hold any water in the absence of the other party and the City of Miami in taking any action today here with- out the presence of the other party will be quite frankly open. Just a minute. Will be open and I_ don't believe that it is in your best advantage to go this route today because whatever action we might take here will be chal- lenged in court and I would say that very successfully in the absence for very valid reasons - for very valid reasons- and with out time, and George, correct me if I'm wrong, and without even time for the other party to make any other arrangements because I understand that the accident in which Mr. Paul was involved happened yesterday so obviously there was no time for them to get another attorney and to prepare themselves. So I am not going to give you the floor at this particular point, Mr. Logan, this is the Committee of the Whole Agenda. To enter into a partial discussion here will only be a waste of time, that is my estimation unless any other member of the City Commission wants to make a comment about this. Hearing none, I am sorry, Mr Logan, I am not going to give you.... Mr. Victor Logan: Mr. Lacasa, are you saying that you will not at least hear a comment on my, part about that particular thing? Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Logan, the problem is this. I feel that unless any other member of the Commission wants otherwise that it would be a waste of time for us and for you at this particular point to entertain a lengthy discussion on this highly controversial issue which has been taken by this Commission several times already and that we cannot act validly today here so it would be a waste for you and it would be a waste for us. Rev. Gibson: Let me make a comment. Mr. Grassier I want you to hear me. I want all that staff of your's to hear me too. Who are your assistants now? I want you all to hear this because, and I hope all of your department people have their intercom system going. You know, I live with the philos- ophy "Be kind to those on your way up lest on your way the same people that you were not kind to on your way up, you'll meet them on your way down." 1 want to make sure and say that. And "I don't want Plummer to be talking to George Knox because I want to make sure George Knox understands when he ddvises us sometimes I really have some problems. ` And George is involved in this. a shall never forget how dogmatic the attorney for Mr. Perl has open and is, and God_ knows my sympathies are with him. Okay? That's my lino, t.ho i. 's who( I do for a living - sympathize with people who are not as f+,rl unnt&: as uthcrs. - Okay? l: shall never forget either how dogmatic and d irnna lr, that Attorney has been and is when he comes here representing the Dolphins. Mr. Logan, I want to give you a piece of advice. I' don't like to, but if I were you I would turn the other cheek to Mr. Paul, I would. Maybe some of us who have not always seen what was happening to you when you come back may get in line'and try to. see. See, if you do Mr. Paul the way Mr. Paul has been doing not you, us, what you would do is you proceed now and tell him to go to hell. But you don't want to do that, that's not good Americanism. Okay? I hope it won't be catastrophe to you, that you would say Ok, the next meeting come hell or high water we're going to hear 1 JAN 1 01980 it because Mr: Paul has, how many people on his staff, how many lawyers in that office of his? I know there has to be two or three. Mr. Logan: Quite a few, sir. -Rev. Gibson: It'has.,to be two or three. Okay,; here's what I want-`to.beg you to do. Put it on the agenda for the next meeting with the understanding that if Mr. Paul - this is what the judges do, that's your hustle, Mr. Vice -Mayor, you're a lawyer, you know what happens in the court. The court will say, Okay, you don't have a lawyer, yoU find one by.such and such a time. We don't care whether the one you want especially is with you or not but you be doggone sure and be here such and such a date with a lawyer and if you aren't the court proceeds anyway. Isn't that the way they do it? Mr. Lacasa: That's absolutely right, Father. Rev. Gibson: I want to suggest that to you. Hopefully when Mr. Paul comes back here being high and mighty and. damning as he usually is that you know, and I remember so well the then Vice -Mayor invoked the 5-day rule. I hope he will also learn something. You know, it is an ill wind that doesn't blow some good and we all can learn. Incidents in our lives get to be an awful repository for teaching. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you very much, Father, I feel that Father Gibson has stated this issue very clearly. Mr. Grassie, would you care to see that this item be scheduled to be heard in the next City Commission hearing and that the parties involved be advised and that Mr. Peri be advised that he should get himself legal representation and be prepared to be here on the 24th. Rev. Gibson: And tell him if he doesn't have legal representation we're going to proceed anyway. Mr. Grassie: Shall we set it for 10:00 O'Clock exactly again? Mr. Lacasa: I would say so, yes, sir. Mr. Logan: Mr. Lacasa.... Mr. Lacasa: No, Vic, no way. This is the Committee of the, whole It is not open for public participation, we have give you all the time. We want to move, we have a long agenda today, there is no reason why we should entertain more discussion. This is very clear. Father Gibson stated the situation very clearly. You're out of order. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Vice -Mayor, may I suggest, and maybe this will sound strange coming from me, but I happen to agree with Father, that this matter - you know the one thing I've learned in political life is not to drag things out and I don't ever want to drag things out. I do want to be fair and I will at all times express myself ,very loud and very clear in those areas of where I think fairness should prevail._ Mr. Manager, I would suggest that when this item is placed back on the agenda that you put a corresponding item in the regular agenda because I for one, I guess maybe it is the. only place that Mr.'Logan and I agree, that we want a final answer, that the way it is today it is merely a discussion and no action could be taken, that you. put on the next agenda when it is for -discussion a corresponding item on the regular agenda in which action if this Commission, wants and hopefully will take action and completely finalize this application or this discussion. Because the way it is today you could not finalize it, it is only discussion. Mr. Grassie: If I may, just as a point of information, Commissioner, what we normally do is provide a place which we call formalization of Committee of WLuiic items which is at the end of your agenda and we do anticipate that yuu could in the same day formalize anything that you take. by way of a motion policy in the Committee of the Whole. So we do give that opportunity and in addition to that normal general opportunity what I will do is put it on with- out arriving at a conclusion for you, I will put it on as an item under formal- izations so that you have clearly that opportunity. Mr. Grassie: Well, Mr. Grassie, you know the one thing I've always been very very leery of is anyone being able to come back to this Commission and point a finger and say you said one thing and did another. Now, using as the example Item (F), you have on there See Item 32(a) which is action for. Item (F) if. this Commission so elects. And I would suggest that that be done because if I read this agenda, as Father says in the King's English, the only action this, Commission could take and be fair and not have a finger pointed is discussion, 12 JAN 3 0 1980 nothing else and i think that's what the public would expect, that there would be nothing more than discussion, at least that's what I expect. -.Now - if you put an item on the back and see Itemso and so for finalization then I think you're being' fair with the public, with the applicant and with the Commission. So I would hope rather than just a scatter gun that says Final--. ization of Items of the Committee of the Whole that you put these items there where the Commission has the elective to move or not move. Mr. Logan: Armando, can I just make` a point of question and that's' all? I just don't understand something, that's all I want to ask. Okay? You have supported me, Father Gibson has supported me, I would like to respect', you by going ahead but at the last Commission Meeting on the 27th there was a motion made that was seconded and voted on unless I'm mistaken that said no matter what, hell or high water, no matter' who shows up this issue will be heard. Now, can I be assured, just a question, can I' be assured that this will happen at the next meeting and that no matter what happens because that's the impression 1 was today? Mr. Lacasa: You have this Commission, Vic, you have heard Father Gibson and you have me addressing the Manager on the issue, I think that should suffice. Thank you very much MIAMI STADIUM/MIAMI GARMENT DISTRICT INTERCHANGE STUDY - ACCEPT STUDY & REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH APPROPRIATE STATE OFFICIALS_ S MEMBERS OF THE INDUSTRY. Vice -Mayor Lacasa: Item (C) Discussion of the Miami Stadium and Miami Garment District Interchange Study. Mr. Grassie: This item, Mr. Vice -Mayor and members of the City Commission, is a report to the City Commission on a question that was raised by the City Com- mission having to do with the possibility of producing additional entryand exit points from 1-95 in the neighborhood, of the Garment District and the Miami Stadium. Mr. Plummer. -is here to give you his report. Mr. Plummer: For the record, Mr. Plummer is not related,'I don't think I'v had the pleasure - yes I did, cnce b:fore. Mr. David Plummer: I' thinkwe did, yes. Mr. Plummer: Yes, and I think the question was raised at that time, how much my brother was doing for this City. From your standpoint it's from Tallahassee, just for the record we're not related. Mr. David Plummer; Thank you. For the record I'm David Plummer, I'm a trans- portation`consulting engineer with offices in Coral Gables, Florida. I was requested by the City to study ways in which additional access could be gained from Interstate 95 to a specific area within the City. I` should point out at this time that the contract was structured to find out if some type of inter- change would work. there's a lot more detailed design that will have to take place related to this particular issue. I have a brief series of slides which t think best portray what we found out, it should take no longer than five minutes._ The area of particular interest, of course, is the Garment District. Planning efforts to date have shown that access is very very difficult to that area and any driver with any common sense would agree that it is almost imposs- ible to get there from here using Interstate 95. The secondary issue in this j. iLicular study would also be able to open up access to the Miami Stadium, it t.(,r,>has the same difficulties. It is almost impossible to get there from here. Now this aerial photograph shows the area of influence that we were asked to study. Just to orient you briefly to it, on the right side of the picture is the interchange with State Road 836, on the far side, the left side is the interchange with the Julia Tuttle. I think the barriers to this area well known. If you're southbound along Interstate 95 you can get off at 62nd Street to the north and the next interchange is all the way down about llth Street. Northbound is almost as bad. You can exit at 2nd Avenue but the next land use interchange is way north at 62nd Street - difficult to get to. The request of the study came at an excellent time. The Florida Department of Transportation is presently studying Interstate 95 from Palm Beach County down to the termination on U.S. 1 and they've agreed that whatever results we have they'll incorporate' into that overall study. We were able to determine f _ r) r.:; rt 13 that there is an additional issue which may help our cause and that's the recurring congestion ori Interstate 95 between the south bound 1-95 travel and the west bound travel onto State -Road :936. This aerial Photograph is looking west. Now the main cause of that recurringcongestion is the large employment centers at Cedars of Lebanon, Jackson Hospital and, the Justice Building. there are over 22,000 employees and 25,000 visits a day to that area. We reviewed approximately eight different interchange types with State, County and City people, four candidate interchanges resulted which we studied in detail. The first one involves a split interchange in which travel to and from the north would be provided at 29th Street to and from the south at 20th Street. A second interchange would be a half diamond providing access only at 29th Street for travel to and from the south only. One unusual type we looked is common in California,a mid -block type inter- change in which vehicles can exit to the west at 24th Street and to the east at 25th'Street- Some difficulties with this interchange involve neighbor- hood infiltration of traffic. And the last interchange we looked at was half of an interchange located at 20th Street that would handle movements only to and from the north, north Dade County, Miami Beach and the likes. The most critical issue in freeway operations is weaving. Weaving is caused when vehicles cross each other's paths on a freeway, an aeditional inter- change incorporates weaving. The State is going to he concerned about that problem. However, we did find that acceptable freeway operation can be had with a half of an interchange at N.W. 20th Street. This interchange would provide for movements only to and from the north. Additional problems such as neighborhood impacts - this is 20th Street looking 'Jest - noise, air pollution and the like will be studied in detail by. the State at a later date. And, of course, one of the big impacts in that particular area of the City is what type of volume reductions will eventually result on Interstate 95 due to the rapid rail system. And as a final remark, I'd like to say that we have determined that that one interchange type may work in that area. It has the advantage of additional land access, it has the advantage of possibly stopping the recurring congestion by intercepting traffic destined for the Jackson Hos- pital area. The data has been turned over to the State, they're incorporating it into their study and we hope within the next 12 month period that they will give us some sort of response Ls to whether or not they will approve an inter- change at that. location. Thank you. Mr. Plummer: Any questions from members of the Commission? Mr. Plummer, I hope we don't hold our breath until we hear from the state. I would hope, Mr. Grassie, that this report would be turned over to the Economic'Develop- ment Committee of which the City now has. And I think that somebody needs to tell Tallahassee that we are in jeopardy of possibly losing a $100,000,000 industry because of the problems that have been very clearly brought out in this report. I think they would look at it selfishly if we tried to explain the other reasons that they would be self -motivated as far as the Baseball Stadium, Jackson Hospital and things of that nature but here we are spend- ing thousands of dollars on economic development and we're in jeopardy of a $100,000,000 industry that we already have and maybe what I'm saying is that if we get enough people knocking on that door in Tallahassee they might start to believe there is some significance, that there is a problem. 0f course, their immediate answer to everything is we don't have the money. If they don't have money to buy gas for patrol cars you know I wonder about the rest. But I would hope that this report would be sent, and this presenta- tion would be made to the Economic Development Committee and that they get on the band wagon and join with this Commission for Purposes of trying to retain some of the economics that we have. I think a motion would be in order that we accept this report this morning and that we request that the Manager follow through not only with the State Transportation Department but with all other available parties and including the people of the Garment District to join with us making these needs known to Tallahassee. I think that motion would be in order, since the Vice -Mayor is back, I'11'offer the )tion and hopefully I can get a second. Mr. Lacasa: Do I hear a second to Mr.'Plummer's motion? Rev. Gibson: Second. Mr, Lacasa: Seconded by Father Gibson, please call the roll. 14 J A N 1 0 1930 • The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 80-2 A:MOTION ACCEPTING THE MIAMI STADIUM/MIAMI GARMENT DISTRICT INTERCHANGE STUDY AS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION BY DAVID PLUMMER AND REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO FOLLOW THROUGH BY CONTACTING AND/OR MEETING WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE PEOPLE OF THE GARMENT INDUSTRY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.), Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Maurice Ferre. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you very much, Mr. Plummer, for your report. 6. REVIEW OF BUDGET REQUEST SUBMITTED BY MODEL CITIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. Mr. Lacasa: We 'are now on Item (E), Review of Budget request submitted by MOdel Cities Community Development Advisory Board. Ms. Spillman. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Vice -Mayor, while she's setting up I want to expresss to every- one that at my tender age I am trying to get used to wearing glasses. I don't want anyone to think that I'm a snob by looking down my nose but I really; just can't used to wearing glasses and I'm trying to adjust them. So if I offend anybody by looking down it's not intentional. Mr. Lacasa: already. i'm glad for your clarification because 1 was feeling very uneasy Mr. Plummer: That's right. jump at you too. Well, if you put iny glasses on the newspaper will Ms. Dena Spillman: At your last Commission `Meeting ,you heard a presentation by Mr. George Adams, Chairman of the Model Cities Community Development Board regarding funding for a Model Cities Development Agency. Staff was instructed by you to go back, meet with the neighborhood, review the budget and come back to you to discuss this item. We have done that, I would like to briefly re- view with you what the proposal comprises and what our compromise recommendation is. What the neighborhood proposed was a general agency which I feel would try to duplicate many existing City services. The proposal was to provide rehabil- itation services, economic development, planning Services, even some social service functions such as day care, redevelopment activities and citizen parti- cipation. The total budget request was for $350,000 which involved an executive director at $35,000 a year, an assistant director at $25,000 a year and seven other staff people paid with CD plus CETA people so You can see it is a rather extensive proposal. What we have come up with is a proposal to utilize $50,000 in Community Development Funds to fund an existing coinmunity based organization to do economic development activities. That is to tie in with what the City is already doing and provide a neighborhood outreach function for Model Cities. We would provide to them $50,000 for staff and operating expenses, we would pro- vide in addition to that start up costs, one time costs such as purchase of furniture, telephone installation and things of that nature which are one, time costs. This would give the organization the opportunity to work with the, City in a manner which L think they will feel more comfortable about and it will also give them the opportunity to go after other federal grants which are available to neighborhood based organizations. - We have also had tentative discussions with the Economic Development Administration and we have initial indications that they have $25,000 that we may be able to obtain for this same: organization which would raise their budget. Should this organization come up with the grant, 15 JAN + �;:�: for example fromHUDor EDA which would require a match we would be able to assist the organization in obtaining the match and CD funds can be Used to match grants. We feel this is a fair way to solve the problem and that is our recommendation at this time,;; that we fund an agency in the amount of $50,000 plus the other things I discussed. Mr. Lacasa: Thank you, Dena, I think that I would like to hear from you, George, on this. Mr. George Adams:. Yes, sir, I appreciate that. My name is George Adams, live at 1055 N.W. 60th Street. I'm a member of the Model Cities Advisory Board.' We were elected in August and the other members, would you please stand, in the community I just mentioned. We were here on the 27th and we're back here again today. We are here because we're asking for an agency because we feel, the board and community that staff isn't sensitive to the community needs and we're not here for double talk. There was a statement mentioned just now a few minutes ago by Ms. Spillman, on the 27th of December we were here and the Commission directed Ms. Spillman to have a meeting with this board to discuss this issue. She said that was done, but let me tell you how it was done. 0n the 31st of December, 1979 a person from Ms. Spillman's office got in touch with me and wanted to set up a meeting between Ms. Spill- man, Mr. Reid from the Planning agency and George H. Adams. Nothing was said about meeting with the other members of the board or the community. Quite naturally I refused because I'm not -going -to be put in a position like this by staff or anyone else. I then in turn told the person that I was talking with to advise Ms. Spillman that we would be happy to meet with here on the 3rd of January at 7:30 P.M. at Tacolcy Center. At that time she could meet with the board and the community. members .and we could discuss the issue intel- ligently. Miss Spillman advised me that she was busy working on the 6th Year. Plan and she did not have time to meet with this board and the commun- ity. I didn't resent that because I'm accustomed to receiving those type of answers. Like I said, this is evidence why we need an agency. Now that information that Ms. Spillman read from a few minutes ago, I'm assuming that the Commission has a copy of it, this counter proposal. The Board got this proposal, incidentally there was no more contact with Ms. Spillman with reference to this meeting. , The'staff had seta meeting for the 9th of Jan- uary, they were supposed to discuss the 6th Year Plan. The other meeting that the Commission directed us to have we didn't have. Last night at that meeting at 7:30 P.M. -the -Board and the community was there and Ms. Spillman gave me this counter proposal about 7:35 P.M. and I told Ms. Spillman that I didn't have any intentions of entertaining the thought to try to digest this and speak intelligently to the community and the meeting was about to start. Now this is one of the paramount problems that we have with the staff, re- ceiving information just before the meeting, we don't have the opportunity to do any research, seek any advice on what's best for the community. That again is why we are here, to ask the Commission and the Manager to deal favor- ably with our proposal for an agency. Now, as far as having a city-wide agency we might as well continue to have staff. If we're going to do that, someone was talking' about duplication at the last meeting, apparently we're going to be duplicating the services. What is listed in this information, what is supposed to be being done,. and the City is talking about cutting down on its staff, maybe it's a duplication on the agencies. that are listed here - Planning, the Department of Trade and Commerce Development and so on. So we are really not interested in a. city-wide local development corporation because we're going to get caught up in the same wheels or machinery that we're caught up in now and I don't know for;, a fact, however -I'm going to mention it any- way, what's happening is from the meeting last night and the Board's resent- ment of continually receiving information of grave importance from staff two, minutes before the meeting starts once a month. As I said, from that resent- ment I understand that it is in the talking stage that staff is going to ask possibly going to ask the Commission and the Manager to abolish this board and I think that is tragic. Now if staff isgoing to have these kinds of` (1...itlive thoughts then we're destined for destruction as a community. Now reference to that 6 year plan, last time I was here I passed out copies of the recommendations that this board.... The Board accepted the six year plan as presented by staff and asked staff to deal with these changes. They weren't dealt with in depth. In fact, I don't have an understanding as to how they were dealt with, I don't think they were dealt with at all. I think the Commission has a copy of the letter that I' sent to Ms. Spillman for the Board, as far as the staff meeting with the Board. That letter was dated on 3, January, 1980 to Ms. Spillman from this Board and a cover letter on 3 Jan.— uary to the Commission, the Model Cities Community Development Advisory Board. That outlines part of our, problem. Like I said, an inability to meet with the Board is one of our dilemmas. With this I'm asking that the Commission deal favorably with the agency we're speaking of and if not that complete budget of $350,000, at least $250,000. The community that this board represents has approximately, I think more than 40,000 citizens and there are other areas 1 JAN 1u 1960 with agencies that are getting well over $200,000,with not half as many citi- zens as we have. Now another thing I'd like to deal with, and I talk about staff again, I don't want to belabor the point i just want to give You the facts. Sometime in June 1979 Martin Luther King Neighborhood Association asked staff for a planner, a permanent planner to deal with us. We received replies, we wrote some more letters. On the loth of October this board wrote a letter to Mr. Jim Reid at the Planning Department and sent carbon copies to the Commission and the Manager asking that Mr. Lloyd Spooner who is a planner be assigned permanently as a planner to our area. We had, Mr. Spooner had worked along with us, we had a good rapport, for thatreason we wrote the letter and asked humbly that Mr. Reid let us have Mr. Spooner as our planner. Mr Reid replied and said he would assign a planner, he didn't say that he was going to assign Mr. Spooner. He said he would be pleased to discuss the matter personally at a later date with me. Now, I don't think we asked for the imposs- ible, we asked for Mr. Spooner. This Board has had a lot of double talk since that time about why we couldn't have Mr. Spooner. I don't think we were asking for too much and I` think that Mr. Reid is resisting our request, I don't know whether for personal reasons... I'd like to direct your attention to the technical assistance.... Okay, technical assistance, I'll just read briefly: To facilitate citizen participation the plan shall provide technical assistance. It goes down in the bottom of that section and says, technical assistance should be provided by specialists jointly selected by the applicant and the organiza- tions and groups... We didn't ask for the impossible, we asked for one gentle- man to assist us and we were denied that. Mr. Reid said last night that, you know he was hired, by the city to do a job and we understand that very well and we don't have any problems with that. And we were elected as a Board by the community and being elected by the community this 15 member board also has a job to do and we don't want to be selfish about it, we just ask that something be done and you know, if the Board are not going to receive any of its wishes then we really don't need a board. So I'll close. One other thing I'd like to say. The Board did not ask for any additional funds, only reprogramming of funds that are already allocated, with reference to statements made by Ms. Spillman. So in closing, we humbly ask that you approve this agency and this budget as has been proposed to you. NOTE: Mayor Ferre entered the meeting at 10:30 O'Clock A.M. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Adams, let me understand this properly. The crux, the nut, the bottom line of what you're really asking for as I understand is $350,000 of previously approved but not used funds that You want reallocated for the purposes that you've outlined here today. Now, the administration as I: Per- ceive it, as I understand it has on the other hand come' back and said that on January 24th which is at our next meeting you're going to propose a neighbor- hood economic development office linked with a city-wide development corpora- tion and that at that time the City of Miami Commission; will approve or dis- approve an economic development strategy which will be brought before us for discussion and approval. Now, is that right, January 24th? Ms. Spillman: Well, let me clarify something. Our public hearing on Commun- ity Development is January 24th and as part of our proposal we will be bring- ing this recommendation to you. Mayor Ferre: To the City Commission. Ms. Spillman: Right. You will be hearing later this morning a discussion on the city-wide development corporation as a separate issue. Mayor Ferre: All right. Well, it seems to me that the decision on this is premature until we decide a city-wide approach to economic development and we set a policy and then I don't think that we should say no, if the Commission wants to say yes that's something else. I don't think we should say no at this time, I think what we should do is say let's set our overall City policy, our general guidelines and then we will take this matter up on the 24th and; make the decision at that time depending as to what other decisions we make regarding this important matter. So George,.I hate to do this to you to make you wait fourteen more days but I would recommend that we wait these two weeks and that we then reconsider this at that time when we look at the overall strategy, of the City depending as to what the will of this Commission is on this general... Mr. Adams: Okay, Mr. Mayor, let me just mention' one thing that you already are aware of. There are, this isn't a thing that we're asking for, there are some agencies in existence and from the discussion with this board we're not going to be satisfied with a city-wide local development corporation be- cause we're going to be caught right up in the same bag again with staff. `•JAN1G1980 Mayor Ferre: I understand exactly what you're saying and plOd:;c don't misunderstand my Words, I'm not saying in any way that I disagree with your posture at this time, all I'm saying is let the administration pre- sent to this Commission its Neighborhood Economic Development Plan' for the whole city and then we will address the specific question of the Model City Development Agency proposal as you presented today: What I.'m saying is let us not make the decision at this time. Mr. Adams: Mr. Mayor, what is the date that that is going to be discussed? Mayor Ferre: The 24th of January. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me ask a question. The 24th of January the` Commission meets, ma'am? Ms. Spillman: Yes. Rev. Gibson: Evidently, you linked it to something else if I heard right. When are they going,to meet? Mayor Ferre: No, you see I misunderstood her too and I'll tell you, because you didn't express it clearly enough. What you said is that -there will be a meeting to present but you meant a meeting at the City Commission. Ms. Spillman: Right. Mayor Ferre: That's the only meeting that you're talking about. Ms. Spillman: Right. Mayor Ferre: Because I misunderstood that too. Rev. Gibson: Yes, well I want to make sure because if you did that then you would meeting the night after we meet that morning. You will not be meeting with them? Ms. Spillman: No, the next step in the process.. Rev. Gibson: All right, now let me ask this. Why aren't you meeting with them and telling them what your proposal is going to be? Ms. Spillman: Because we have done that already, Commissioner. Rev. Gibson: You've done that Ms. Spillman: Yes, sir. Rev. Gibson: When did you do that? Ms. Spillman: We did it last night. already? Rev. Gibson: All right, now Mr. Mayor, I don't know if: you were here, but I want you to hear - I hope you heard what I heard. What these people are saying is you brought them your proposal last night about ten or fifteen minutes before they were ready to begin. Isn't that right? Now, look, this is where we're smart up here and they don't know that. They don't: know we aren't smart. Okay? Now, if.we are supposed to be smart and we're not smart I wonder how you think if you would give them this fifteen minutes before they go into the meeting how they're going to digest all of that bus- iness. You know? What I'm saying to you is all of this business you have before us today you take it back, go see those people, talk with them, ex- pi.ain and then come back here. . Mayne Frre: I agree, Ithink that it is unreasonable for you to expect anybody to assimilate and understand 3.5 minutes before something as compli- cated as this that you've been spending months and months and perhaps years in and then expect for them to, just rubber stamp it in 15 minutes - I know that that was not the intention but you know it seems to me that what you ought to do then is to let them read this, digest it, consult with them and then have another meeting with them again to discuss it and then you under- stand that you have to go through that same process with the City Commission because as of this discussion right now we're talking -in the blind because in effect you presented to them what you have not presented to us so we in effect don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talk- ing about, I haven't seen it. So you've got to let us look, at it before you JAN 1 0 1980 ask us, and George, all I'm saying is -before you ask me to react I think what Father is saying for you --please,, you say it for me. In other words you say hey, I'm going to give you a chance to read it, look at it, listen to it and discuss it and then we'll sit down and try to come to some kind of a conclus- ion on it because I don't know what they're talking about, I don't know what they're talking about. Mr. Adams: Okay, Mr. Mayor; we're going to agree with that but we would like to have an understanding. Now you weren't present at the last Commission Meet- ing on the 27th. The Commission at that time instructed, Ms. Spillman and her. staff to have a meeting with us and like she said the meeting was last night and this wasn't presented 15 minutes before the meeting, it was 5 minutes be- fore the meeting. Mayor Ferre: You're right, I agree with you:. Mr. Adams: I'd like to say this too. Ninety percent of the members of this board took off from their job today and they're going to take off some more time because they're interested in the community. However, 90% of the time that staff wants to set the date and time on a meeting it is 8:30 or 9:00 O'Clock in the morning and it is almost impossible to do that. Rev. Gibson: I'm going to help you. Ms. Spillman, as a Commissioner I want you to tell me now when you're going to have the meeting so the members of the board will know right now - where and when. Ms. Spillman: Our normal meeting place, Allapattah Junior High School any night'next week, that is Tuesday night, if that's Ok with the Board. Mayor Ferre: Mr.. Manager, would you have any objections if I or any member of the Commission were to sit in, not participate? Mr. Grassier No, on the contrary, we welcome that, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: I will not participate, I don't think it is fair for me to kind of get involved in running the thing because I think this .really should be.a staff meeting, the administration with you. But I would like to perhaps' sit in and listen to what is going on so that when you come here'I mightbe better informed. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I ain't going to let anybody off the hook. When are you going to have the meeting? Mr. Adams: We're going to have the meeting on Wednesday, whatever date that is. Rev. Gibson: Is that convenient, Ms. Spillman? Mayor Ferre: Wednesday is the 16th of January. Mr. Adams: Our suggestion would be the 16th of January, Wednesday at 7:30 P.M. Ms. Spillman: To my knowledge that's Ok, I don't have the whole calendar here, I'm sure that's Ok. Rev. Gibson: Okay, so the issue is joined that on the 16th of January.. Ms. Spillman: Now we have to call the school, Okay? And if, we can get the school.... Mayor Ferre: Yes, of course. Now if that changes because the school is not available or something comes up that's unforseen would you let Mr. Adams know, would you'also.let the members of the Commission know where, at what ii.rno and if they want to show up, and I think we should all kind of agree amonojsL ourselves, you know the moment the Mayor or a member of the Commis- sion walks in then the emphasis changes to the person who has the vote and I think if we go, and I plan to be there, George, if I can, I want you to understand that I'm there just as an observer. I'm not there to make any decisions or to try to control or run the meeting or come to any conclusions. I'm not running for public office,' I'm not doing anything at this point I'm. just there simply as the Mayor listening to something so I know what the beef is, where we're going., Mr. Adams: We appreciate that, Mr. Mayor, we know that you are: sensitive to our problem. If Ms. Spillman can get the school for the meeting the board will find the time. 19 J A N 1 01980 Mayor Ferre: else? Rev. Gibson High School? Ms. Spillman: Rev. Gibson: Ms. Spillman: Thank you very much and we'll see you then. Father, anything just want to make sure, you know, is that Allapattah Junior Yes, our normal meeting place is Allapattah Junior All right, do you meet in the average classroom? No, we meet in the cafeteria. High School. Rev. Gibson So if you can't go to Allapattah Junior High School my under- standing is Caleb isn't that far away and my understanding is that Tacolcy isn't that far away. See, Mr. Manager, I want to tell you what you may not know. Allapattah, Tacolcy, Caleb, even Miami Jackson, if you were in the Grove I'd tell you the parrish hall or either I can't vouch for the Church of the Incarnation, see, I want to make sure that the meeting is set on the 16th and you know there won't be no, you know, so that sisters and brothers you could go home knowing that that meeting is going to be on the 16th. Now let me ask one other thing. You're going to be just meeting with the Board, is that right? Ms. Spillman: We will try to notify.... It will be Rev. Gibson: Is that right? Mr. Adams: Let me say this, I'm glad you mentioned that. When Ms. Spillman's secretary called me I gave her a list of people that the board were desirous of being there, that being Tony Crap from Trade and Commerce, Mr. Houke from Dade County Economic Development and a representative from HUD. We requested that she have them at the meeting that we were supposed to have and didn't have. Rev. Gibson: As the Mayor said I think they should join, you could tell every- body the meeting is going to be on the 16th and that the place maybe doubtful. but t'ain't no doubt about the meeting being. Ok? All right, good enough. Mr. Adams: Thank you very much. . SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. Mayor Ferre: All right, we're now on Item F which is the report on the possi- bilities of a Special Taxing District for the downtown area. Mr. Knox? Mr. Manager, Mr. Grassie, we're now on Item F. Mr. Grassie: This item was requested by the Mayor and members of the City Commission. The initial report will be made by the City Attorney and then we have some maps to show you what the boundaries would be if you wish to continue that discussion. Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Knox. Mr. Knox: We have indicated that the procedure for the establishment of a Special Taxing District is one which rests exclusively with Metropolitan Dade (:aunty and the procedure is to have the affected municipality adopt a reso- lution or express its will to the County Commission that they establish that taxing district and that Metropolitan Dade County conduct a referendum elec- tion to see if the qualified electors within that district would approve of its establishment. Mayor Ferre:' Let me understand this properly. The Constitution of the State of Florida says that if the.City of Miami wants to increase its taxes it can do so by going to a referendum, the City of Miami has the authority on a city- wide basis to request for the people of Miami to pass a tax to increase their tax base, I think there is a limitation of 10% or something, 10 mills but then it would go to the people and if the people vote for an increase in the tax base then we can go beyond ten mills. 20 J A N 1 0 1980 Mn Knox:. Well, the difficulty is;that the Constitution provides the limita- tion of 10 mills and it does not give municipalities the independent power even by referendum to exceed that 10 mill limitation where a county has estab- lished procedures for the assessment of the additional taxes. Metropolitan Dade'County through its Charter and Code do have procedures for the estab lishment of what we can call extraordinary taxes and if the County has a pro cedure established then the cities are mandated by the Florida 'Statutes to utilize the procedure which is employed by the County. Mayor Ferre: In other words that's not constitutional in nature but statutory. Mr. Knox: Yes, sir, considering the constitutional limitation on the ability of municipalities to tax. Mayor Ferre: Well, but isn't there a constitutional procedure where a city can increase its taxes beyond 10 Mills? Mr. Knox: Yes, this is, where we have a city-wide tax there is a procedure by referendum but when we are talking about the establishment of Special Tax- ing Districts for selected portions of the City then we have to utilize a procedure of establishing Special Taxing Districts which has been pre-empted .. by the County. Mayor Ferre: In other words we can do it for the city as a whole but we can not do it for a part of the City. Mr. Knox: That's correct. Mayor Ferre: And that's because it is specifically precluded by the statute. Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Ok. And you've gone through this whole process and you feel that that's conclusive from -your position. Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Now, the next question then deals with our timing. For it to be on the March election --- Mr. Knox: Generally the election commission has indicated that they must have received a proposed measure within 45 days of the contemplated election. Mayor Ferre: And the election is on March llth, is that correct? Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: That would then give us 10 days from the last day of January and one day. to be safe, that would put it as I understand it Monday the 21st of January is the last day. Mr. Fosmoen: But don't forget, Mr.•Mayor, that you're asking the County Com- mission to take an action and they have to meet. between now and that last date. Mayor Ferre: And when is the County Commission's meeting date? Mr. Knox: They generally meet on the second and fourth Tuesdays I believe of every month. Mayor Ferre: So in effect they would have to take this up ---- Mr. Knox: The 22nd. Mayor Ferre: And that would be too late. No? Mr. Fosmoen: As I understand it you have until the 24th to get this before the Election Commission, that's the last date. Mayor Ferre: Ok, those are the preliminary questions, if you want you can get into the substance of it now: Mr. Plummer: We just pass a resolution asking and urging the County to pass it. Is there anyone in opposition? 21 JAN 1 019s0 Mayor Ferre: Yes, it seems to me that we have to kind of look at the lanhuago that's specifically written. I don't have a copy of it:. is that what war; passed out? Mr. Knox: Item 32 `(a) is in your packet and we just passed out a refined version' of that proposed resolution-. Mayor Ferre: George, the only thing we can do then is urge County Commissioners? Mr. Knox: Urge and authorize is the language. Mayor Ferrer I see, so in other words it would, therefore, be something that we would authorize. Do we define the language that would go on the bal- lot? Mr. Knox: They would draft, I'm sure that we could make suggestions with respect to the language but it would be their responsibility. Mayor Ferre: Let me go over what the basis of this was so that we could understand our position on this. We have the possibility of federal funding for the Downtown People Mover. That, however, requires frorn the, City of Miami an expenditure over a five year period, as I recall, of $10,000,000, Is that correct? In addition there is a question as to how the private sec- tor would contribute to the operations and the maintenance and th, -'cits involved. Thirdly, there has been an expressed concern on the p merchants especially that they -want additional police protection in the down- town area and that they're willing to pay beyond their fair share of what they should get anyway and the definition of that becomes a problem because the merchants that I talked to put it to me this way: They don't want for us to pass a tax to tax them and then to relieve the regular City of. Miami Police Force from their job and, therefore, in effect that would really be double taxation and I think they're completely accurate and right. So, therefore, we'd have to be very careful in the .way we go about this defin- ing that the moneys that would be involved for additional police would be above and beyond what the City of Miami would put into the downtown area under normal circumstances. How we define normal circumstances is where you get into trouble. How can you do:that on a taxable - unless you leave it open and then if you leave it open that's subject to a lot of concerns. So I'think we've got a lot of work to do, George, between now and the 22nd and I would hope that we could come up with something that would be accept- able verbally to all the members of this Commission and that we would use that as the basis to recommend to the County. That's all I have to say,on it: Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, I think there are a couple of other issues that need to be addressed. One is, of course, the boundary which is left blank in your resolution and secondly the City Attorney's Office feels that there are two ways to go in terms of who votes in such an election. Mayor Ferre: Who feels that there are two ways? Mr. Fosmoen; The City Attorney's Office. One is only the residents within the'district and the second is the property owners as well. The City Attor- ney's Office feels there is an opportunity for property owners who are not normally residents in the downtown area to also vote for such an election establishing a district. Mayor Ferre: I think that was a matter that went before the, Supreme Court of the United States and the decisionwas made about 10 or 11 years ago, was that freeholder elections were unconstitutional. 9r. Fosmoen: I'm not going to argue the law, I'm simply telling you that they have, there are several ways. that they feel we can go. Mayor Ferro: And if you put a special taxing districtthe only people that can be involved in the decision are those:that are registered to vote within that district whether they're property owners or not property owners,.- Now, how could you have a special election where only those people who own prop- erty vote? Mr. Fosmoen: No, that's not what I was saying. It would be a combination of the two. It would be either the residents or a combination of residents and property.owners. J A N 1 0 1980 Mayor Ferre: But my question is to the City Attorney is there that alterna- tive? Mr. Knox: We have suggested that that alternative may be available but I have to advise you that it is unprecedented in terms of the establishment of taxes. In annexation, for example, there is a Florida Statute which pro- vides that non-resident property owners may express their approval either by casting a vote or by expressing their approval in writing, certified mail return receipt requested. The procedure in annexation is that all of the resident electors vote but in addition the preferences of the non --resident property owners are also considered and the ultimate conclusion is that both elections have to be in favor of the proposed measure. This has never been done in the State of Florida with respect to the assessment of taxes. There is a procedure with respect to annexation of property. Mayor Ferre: I think the word I would use in that is a quagmire. I think you're just getting into a quagmire that just would have no other end. It seems to me that the only way to do this because of the established proced- ure and the constitutionality of it is a very simple referendum of the people who live in the area. Furthermore, from a political point of view I think it is your best chance of it passing because I think the people who live in that district for the most part are not property owners and I think they to get additional protection and to improve the transportation system in down- town would be a heck of a lot more prone to vote for it than those that are more directly affected because they're property owners. And most of those property owners, I hate to'say in downtown Miami are absentee owners, in other words people that do not live in Miami. They own property here for years and years and don't live „in 'the community. So I think we're better off politically just in a simple straight old method and it either flies or it doesn't fly. Mr. Fosmoen: The third issue is a cap on the millage, establishing some kind of a millage cap in the proposition that goes on the ballot. Mayor Ferre: As I recall we were talking originally weren't we of up to one mill but not in excess of that and that would be decided by the City of Miami Commission not by Metropolitan Dade. County. Mr. Fosmoen: We would hope so, that's in your resolution going to Metropol itan Dade County. Mayor Ferre: Where is that? Mr. Fosmoen: It was passed out. Mr. Knox: Item 32(a). Mayor Ferre: No, but I read 32, 32 doesn't say that. Mr. Fosmoen: George, I don't think they have the latest copy of the resolution. Mr. Knox: The Mayor is looking at the latest copy Mayor Ferre All 32 says is in Section 1.... Mr. Knox: Section 2, sir. Mayor Ferre: The Board of County Commissioners is hereby authorized and urged to levy an additional ad valorem bax not exceeding one mill on all real and personal property situated in the above special taxing district for the above purposes. Okay, any questions? Mr. Plummer: Well, the question is if you're putting two items on the ballot, one for the subsidy of the People Mover and the other for the additional Police personnel who is going to make the determination of what percentage applies to where and what percentage doesn't apply?. Mayor Ferre: The City of Miami Commission. Mr. Plummer: It will never fly. Mr. Fosmoen: There's one question as we understand it, one question would go on the ballot establishing a one mill cap to provide operating expenses for the DPM and additional police protection. If that were passed then a budget would have to be drafted, adopted by the County Commission not to exceed one mill. 3 JAN101980 The County would receive the funds and would disperse them either to the transit system or to the City for additional Police protection but it is the County that is going to provide:the operating funding for the transit system. Mayor Ferre: No, I understand that. I've got no problems with the County receiving and using the funds for transit -purposes in the downtown area, I've got no problems with that. I do -have a problem with the County decid ing.what additional police protection is going _to be granted in the downtown area when basically that is the City of Miami's responsibility because it is the City of Miami Police Department that has that responsibility. Mr. Fosmoen: And it would, have. to be based on a budget that would be worked out between the City and the County. You may wish to consider some kind of language in the proposition that would split funding for operation of the DPM and funding for additional police protection. Mayor Ferre: Well the way, Dick, if you may recall, that I originally pro- posed this was that it be split on a 50-50 basis, that a half a mill be for transportation and that the other half a mill be an optional half a mill that the City of Miami Commission would decide as to whether it would be pro - bided for additional protection in the downtown area or transportation needs as we, this Commission in the future decided. Mr. Fosmoen: If that's the case then we should clarify that in the request to the County Commission so it goes on the ballot that way. Mayor Ferre: Therefore, J. L., let me see if I can word it. George, since we have until this afternoon I'd like to see if we can reword this a little bit and say that we would recommend that up. to one mill be passed, put on the ballot, that a half a mill would be specifically earmarked for transportation purposes and leave that general and broad and the County will since they have the responsibility for transportation will have to decide how that would be used. Now, with regards to the additional half a mill, that half a mill would be solely at,the discretion of the City of Miami Commission and that the Com- mission could only use it in one of two ways, either for additional supplemental needs for transportation in downtown in which •case, we turn it over to the County or for additional police protection in the downtown area above and beyond what the natural normal allocation of the downtown area would get from the City of Miami's current operating budget. Now I don't know whether that is clear enough or specific enough and yet broad enough to give you latitude. Could you wofk on that, Mr. Knox? Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Now, are there any other thoughts or recommendations or ideas on this? Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, my, thoughts on the matter, that is not accept- able to me. To me I think that you've got to tell the people up front very truthfully that a .half a mill is going to go for the People Mover, half a mill is going to go for the Police Department for additional personnel. I think when you put before the public too much latitude that they're not go- ing to approve it and.I don't blame them. Mayor Ferre: J. L., in principle I agree with what you're saying. Let me. tell you what the practical problem is. The practical problem is that for us to get that $100,000,000 or $96,000,000 that we're trying to get from the federal government it is. going to require as I remember .$15,000,000_from the County, $10,000,000 from the City and how much from the State? Fosmoen: About $6,000,000. Mayor Fer.re: Whatever, and it's all over $35,000,000 from the local govern- ments, all three of us. Now, absent that we're not going to get:a Downtown People Mover - we may not get it anyway but I mean we're definitely not go- ing to yet it unless we come up with that. Now, where is the. City of Miami going to come up with the money? The second problem is that there is an operating deficit. Every transportation system in the world, certainly in the United States has an operating deficit. Now, it is the thought of both the federal and the local governments that the people who are the beneficiar- ies, that is the downtown property owners help to carry the burden of that deficit. Now, in certain communities in the United States, and I only know of one, it's done voluntarily. In other words the business people, the land owners will volunteer and they'll say Ok, I'll put up so much and I'll pay 24 JAN 1 0 1980 for it. That's very rare, you'll never get that. The only other way of !doing. it is to say, Ok,-what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, everybody pays for it. And so what you do is you put it on all the prop- erties and that's the only way you can do it. Now, for you to say a half a mill for transportation and a half a mill for police protection period. Point blank I don't think that that gives you the kind of flexibility that you're going to need to overcome the kind of problems we're going to have to get a DPM system moving over the next five years and, therefore, the only other alternative I think makes any sense is just to say not to mix these two things and say we're going to put it on the ballot for transport- ation purposes, one mill period, that's it. Now the reason why I don't think that makes any sense is because if you do it that way it is going to be voted down because people don't understand the downtown people mover and they don't understand what it can do for downtown and, therefore, I think that would be voted down and if you put in a combination of transpor- tation and Police protection that has a chance of passing. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me just get it off my chest because you know really and truthfully this has effectively been killed. Okay?' About 90 days ago, Maurice, I asked what was the posture because of my concern of a deadline of the March ballot and I was told that it was beingworked on. Sixty days ago I asked the same question, 30 days ago I asked the same question. Here we are today once again - Government by Crisis - it has been brought to us at the very last minute completely undefined, undelineated and we are going to go forth possibly with something that we really don't understand and we're going to expect the public to understand it. So effectively it's been killed, that's the way I see it and it is very unfortunate because, Mr. -Mayor, this was your proposal from the budget day of October 1 and here we are today under the gun "Government by Crisis" the last day and we're finally getting around to discussing the item. And from what I see here now the tail is wagging the dog. This thing originally was proposed by you for additional protection in the downtown area. That was the original proposal. Mayor Ferre:. I'm sorry, but my original proposal was as it is, in other words a combination, and my original proposal was made to the Downtown. Development Authority on that basis. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, as'I recall, and I'm not disagreeing with you, you made two proposals because the proposal at budget time was in effect that of. additional police protection in the downtown delineated as the DDA boundar- ies and also you made another proposal that we go forth for funding on the Downtown People Mover. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but they were coupled, J. L. Mr. Plummer: Well, I have no problem with that. What I'm saying is, Mr. Mayor, here we are at the last day, I've asked three times - "Government by Crisis" and we're going to ask the public to understand something that we don't and yet it's brought to us the last day unanswered, uncIplineated and I'm going to tell you something - it ain't going to fly. Mayor Ferre: Plummer, you may be right. The only way that I can answer your statement is that that may be but we can either just accept that it is dead and just forget about it and not do anything, and I don't like to do things that way. I'm sorry that this has been held up this way, I share with you, I think the City both the administration and the City Attorney's Office should have been much more vigorous and had this before us way be- fore but that's the way it is and here it is in a simple form that is not properly defined and we have to act on it - or not act on it - but it seems to me.... Mr. Plummer: The question is, Mr. Mayor, would we be more intelligent to wait until the September ballot I think the next ballot and put it on at that time? You know I would rather go with something that we feel is the proper thing and go with it right so that we can understand it and explain it to the public Mayor Ferre: That's a political judgement and you're asking me an opinion. My opinion is that it will not.pass in either September, October or November. That's my political opinion. Mr. Plummer: Well, does your political opinion feel that it will pass in March? Mayor Ferre: I think it has as good a chance of passing as did the Housing Bond Issue and the Housing Bond Issue everybody thought was going to fail JAN101980 It passed because it was put on on an off election primary and when you get into specialized areas like this I, think you're much better off in a non - primary situation.' If you put it on in September or October or November in my opinion this and any other bond issue would fail. That's my personal opinion. Tow whether or not,; you know who knows it's just a judgement factor. I'm not too sure it will pass in March but I know this, it has a heck of a lot better.. chance of passingin March than it does in September. I am that's telling you my cold blooded opinion about it. But we',re not voting on it at this. -time-, we're just discussing it. Are:there any other questions? Mr. Plummer: Are we going to vote this afternoon on it? Mayor Ferre: Yes, it's Item 32(a). Mayor Ferre: If you have any other ideas on this please express them.. And George, in the meantime would you see if we can get the wording on this? Mr. Plummer: I would hope, Mr. Mayor, that as an alternative that the City Attorney would prepare something separating the two issues for the possibil- ity of adoption of the Commission as separate issues rather than as one issue. We can always incorporate,. Mayor Ferre: Fine. Let's do it this way, let's vote upon them separately and then so that we don't have any misunderstanding I will move that they be voted upon as one unit and let's see - that the ballot would be just one - and the reason is that I don't think that the transportation portion of it would pass on its own. This is my personal opinion. Mr. Fosmoen: We also have a question of boundaries, Mr. Mayor, of the dist- rict. Mr. Plummer: The Mayor delineated at budget time, I don't understand why you have a problem now. It was my understand that at budget time when this matter was proposed that it would be the DDA district boundaries. Mayor Ferre: The problem is Brickell Avenue, that's where your problem is See, the DDA area is Ok.. Mr. Fosmoen: (INAUDIBLE) Mr. Plummer: You see, Dick I have no knowledge of all of:this. You're bring ing this thing up at the last minute, you know. What you're doing effectively is you're killing it. Now take it what you want you're effectively killing this issue which I have three times in the past asked "Where is -it?". And you guys are just killing it. Do what you want, you're going to do it any how so do what you want. Mayor Ferre: Of course, if,you keep saying, and I and everybody else say that it is dead then it will be dead, it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy and if we had approached the Housing Bond Issue that way we would have killed it. Everybody said it was going to be dead but this Commission said that it could pass. I might remind you that the realtors and the Dade County Board of Realtors not only were against it they campaigned against it. We passed it because this Commission took a very active positive roll in the need of this. Now you may be right but I don't think it is wise to put things ,on a ballot and start off by saying that they're dead. Don't put them on the bal- lot then. Mr. Fosmoen: The point is, Commissioner, that if you're going to look at a millage for covering an operating deficit on the DPM the entire system is shown on this map. Now is that the same area that we're talking about for additional millage for special police protection, they're different areas., you don't want to combine the two. The red is the DDA boundaries. The addi- tional orange area down here would be necessary to cover operating deficits for this portion of the DPM. This Commission may want to consider establish- ing one special service district doing both things within that district be- cause you're only adding Brickell Avenue. Mayor Ferre: I don't think you have any choice but to do that. Mr: Plummer: Well, it is my understanding, Dick, and you know I could be wrong, I'm not the lawyer. .Separating the issues, the DPM allocation of the funds that possibly would be voted out would be a city-wide vote it affects the City. 26 JAN 1 0 1980 Mr. Fosmoen: It would only be within this district, operating costs for the DPM within the combination of these two areas'. Mr. Plummer: Well, that was your proposal, I disagree. Okay? I disagree. I think the DPM affects the entire City, it is for the benefit of the entire City and as such should be a city-wide election. The other, that of addi- tional police protection in the DDA area affects that given people and those are the people who are going to be getting something andshould pay for it. The people west of that red line are basically not going to benefit by the additional police protection in the DDA. Okay? The people of the entire thing for transporation, the entire City is going to benefit. Mr. Fosmoen: Then you're talking about a city-wide issue on the ballot to support operating costs in the DPM and an issue for special police protection confined only to the DDA area. That was not our understanding previously. from the City Commission. Mayor Ferre: I think your understanding is correct. I think at least when I spoke about it three months ago'my,intention was that the Brickell Avenue area down to 15th Road but excluding the residential portion be - in other words the bay side condominium portion, that that be added to the downtown development area in red and that it would be just one vote and it would be just the residents in that area and that it would be one mill divided, the half a mill for transportation and a half a mill for either police protection or transportation at the will of the Commission in the future. Mr. Fosmoen: In response to Commissioner Plummer's comment about a city- wide vote on the operating.... Mayor Ferre: It will never pass. Mr. Fosmoen: ...on the DPM, well, I only want to point out that city-wide. there is support for the construction of the DPM because of our contribution of FPL funds into that construction cost. mayor Ferre: Well, I think the point is that the federal government is look- ing for the participation of the property owners whose properties will be affected and whose value will be increased and why should somebody out in Allapattah or somebody in Little Havana pay for the increased value that this land is going to take the moment you've got a transportation system which is going to enhance the value? So that's the whole purpose of limiting that par- ticular tax to that particular area rather than a city-wide. Cause then, of course, you could take the broader position and that isthat it should be a county -wide tax because the people of the County are going to benefit by a DPM in the downtown area. Mr. Plummer: And that's why the County is putting up "X" number of dollars. Mayor Ferre: That's why the County is putting up $15,000,000 but the point is that the people that should be specifically paying for this are the prop- erty owners in downtown whose property is enhanced. That's the whole purpose of this. But Ok, we may have an honest difference of opinion in that and we'll take it up later on. Is there anything else you want to add to that? Anybody else? JAN 1 01980 8. ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY STUDY BY GLADSTONE ASSOCIATES, INC. Mayor Ferre: We're now on Item G, Development Strategy Study by Gladstone Associates. Mr. Julio Castano: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'm Julio Castano, Director of the Department of Trade and Commerce. By 1985 24,000 new jobs must exist at minimum to maintain the employment, if not less euphemistically the employ- ment levels of the City of Miami. Over half of these jobs can and will be created or developed by specific targeted and dynamic economic development action by this City. How? Well, first, and I think we, should talk about money, there are hundreds of millions of dollars that exist in federal aid and state assistance that are not being tapped by the City presently. There is physical development funds Title I, Title IX from the Department of Com- merce EDA, HUD Programs, Community Development Housing, HUD Programs, Eco nomic Development Programs under EDA Title III, the 302 Programs, the SETS .Programs, Special Projects - EDA and most importantly the financial develop- ment programs that new administration is bringing forth like the National Urban Development Bank through the EDA 1.8 billion dollars in loan guarantees, the private special investment programs and many others. These are not pie in the sky or unreachable dollars that will solve everything or on`the con- trary be too burdensome that will retard rather than promote development. In the past 18 months the Economic Development for the City has identified, sought and attained several million dollars for very specific programs for development in the City, $200,000 in 302 funds for Economic Development Plan- ning, $60,000 for financial assistance for business development from CSA, $2,000,000 in EDA for Little Havana plus other commerce and HUD funds., We are presently applying for substantial funds for business development in the Overtown and Culmer area and the Central. Business District downtown plus all the other target areas in the City. Another way is, of course through the private Capital Investment partnership that we must form with the private sector for development, for promotion - money attracts money. We're talking about a role of the City that is no longer a'mega-janitor providing only basic services wuch as police and fire and sanitation. Mayor Koche of New York says that economic development. pays for these services and not only do they estalblish a stable tax base that would not only guarantee a balanced budget but a sufficient public capital investment that provides growth and employment.- - We're talking about 6,000 jobs a year that we 'must provide. Thirdly, by developing a comprehensive economic development strat egy for the City this forces us to look inwardly our economic planning. It forces us to create organizational functional intrastructure and develop municipal functions for that purpose, establish an economic planning process that'did not exist before and recommend policy to this City Commission for economic development thus at the end implement real life, real world programs that will result,in the creation of these thousands of jobs that we need just: to hold the line. Before we attack the economic development planning of the City we needed to know what the City was because nobody did to be very honest. with you. A lot of these steps have been taken, we have created functions, we have created mechanisms, we have created programs and we should and must establish some sound economic development policies to make it work.. This study that we're going to present to you this morning is the first and only study of this nature that has ever been done in the City of Miami and with. the exception for a brief study done by Dade County in 1960 which is obviously obsolete is the only one done in the area worth millions of dollars. Mayor Ferre: Tell me that again. !r. Castano: The economic base study of the City of Miami is the only one that's ever been done for Miami with exception of the 1960 study done for Dade County, the only one done for the area. Mayor Ferre: That's unbelievable. Mr. Castano: Well, it's true. Rev. Gibson: Let me make sure I understand. You're saying that the only eco- nomic development study... JAN101980 Mr. Castano: The only economic base study, in other words the study of the industry of Miami, what is Miami. Mayor Ferrer In otherwords where are we and what do we have. Mr. Castano: Right. Rev. Gibson: The only one you had was the one that was done in 1960? Mr. Castano: By the County, correct. Rev. Gibson: And no other was done since then? Mr. Castano: No, sir. Mayor Ferre: Until he did this one. Mr. Castano: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: How much did this thing cost? Mr. Castano: $70,000. How was this paid for? Mr. Castano: .Community Development Funds. Mayor Ferre: But what this does in affect---- Mr. Castano: And I think it is important to note that these $70,000 were also used to seek $200,000 in Economic Development funds as a'match. In other words it was not only that we spent $70,000 and that was it, aside from the tremendous information that we have to get in order just to be up to par we attracted $200,000 into the area. Mayor Ferrer Julio, what is the bottom line of this study? What does it basically tell us? Mr. Castano: I would like to let the vice president, executive vice president of the corporation brief you and highlight you on the study and I'd like to introduce at this time Julian Levine who is Executive Vice -President of Glad- stone Associates. Now I think you must know that this study was done through- out the past year', it has been managed and controlled and reviewed by a manage ment control group for this`pas•t year, it has been approved and accepted by the City of Miami Board and Trade and Commerce. I'd like to introduce the Chairman of the Board at this time, Juan Del Cerro who is our chairman and: this board was appointed by you recently and also I'd like to introduce now Julian Levine. Mr. J.'Levine: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, thank you so much for having me here today. I will say at the outset. I'm joined by my colleague, Amy Hirsch who worked very deligently on some of the things that we'll be discussing. I'd like to give her recognition at this point. She's in the back. sitting there. She's going`to do all the kibitzing as I;go along. I think that the point that Julio brought up at the very beginning is important to Start with namely that this represents the first time in a long period of time that there has been an:evaluation of the economic base of the City of Miami. I think that is important in two respects,. First of all, it reflects the interest of the federal government in local economic development and some of the funding that Julio makes reference to picks up that 'leverage that you've obtained in- sofar as the work here and what it access for the City later on. Second of all it really brings forward the need for information and one component of this particular study deals with the rather mundane question of data, of basic in- formation and not appearing within the materials that you've received but representing something the size of the City of.Miami telephone book is the so-called data catalog which intends to provide you with information about in- dicators so that you can trace where you are-, where you've been and hopefully where you would like to go. Now bring all of that together into a policy framework there are several important points that I'd like to stress here and then welcome your questions as.you would wish to raise them.' Mayor Ferro: Mr. Levine, let me interrupt you for a moment but I, know the Commission, and I think I know the Commission, I know the way,.I think.it is important that you give us all of the detailed complex information but I think would recommend at the outset that you would give us the conclusion of what your findings are and then tell us the complicated story and then give us the conclusion again in the end because otherwise we're going to get into a lot of things and I know that I have alrgblem sometimes following things beyond a certain point. h0417 JAN 1 01980 Mr. Levine: I appreciate your guidance on that, Mr. Mayor. Let me start with the conclusions. The conclusions are that it is necessary for the City to take a more active roll in promoting economic development. It is"neces sary to do it in several respects. First,' certain generalized activities that should be maintained on an on -going basis. These necessary to improve the climate, the.economic climate within the City. There are several specific areas in which the City can also take action. These deal with specific mechanisms that it can employ and also stressing areasi that represent import- ant assets in the community's overall economic development base. For example, recognizing it is a somewhat tender subject given the mist 'recent discussion but downtown is a very important component of the economic base for this City. It is important because it is a central place function that combines a high concentration of jobs which both by number and quality are,important if the', essential objective is jobs, employment, personal income and then very import- antly from the City's standpoint fiscal viability so that we look to and make mention of a considerable deal of material focused on the downtown area. Mayor Ferre: Could I ask you some questions as we go along on this? Mr. Levine: Surely. Mayor Ferre: As I understand it, and I don't think we need Gladstone Assoc- iates to come to a basic conclusion on things that we know in rough but we really need to know the details of it. This is not a manufacturing center so I would imagine that your study doesn't conclude that Miami is today or should become a major industrial manufacturing center. I would also assume that construction is a major part but that where you really come down, if,I were to say give me, in, three sentences the conclusion of your study, you know that took a long time and many people, would you come down and would you say that the basis of the economy of Miami is mostly trade and commerce and services? Mr. Levine: That's the word that I think caps it, Mr. Mayor, It is a service related economy. Mayor Ferre: In other words we don't have an industrial base, we don't have a commercial base perse, we're service oriented and that's really where we are today and that perhaps maybe where we want to go in the future. Mr. Levine: That's true, mr.'Mayor, but I have to qualify that in one respect, that while the principle emphasis is in the service sector there are, indeed, very important benefits or advantages within certain other sectors. For example, when we using manufacturing just to highlight that point one of the things that's identified within this study is that there are several light manufactur- ing sectors that are important.... Mayor Ferre: You mean the garment industry, the boating industry? Mr. Levine: And some others, there are others that are identified and from the standpoint of a comprehensive economic development program_ it is important to give credence to those sectors as it is to others that are within the normal sphere of services, for example, the tourist related services, the banking and financial services, a variety of-otherservices that are indeed the base within the community. Now - you. asked a moment ago what's'the essence or the quintessence of the finding, it is a service related economy. What are the natures of re- sponse that might be called on by this community? There are a series of things that go to first of all make you known the advantages of the City. When Julio makes reference makes reference of the fact that this is the first time in some whether it is 1960 or whatever that there has been a specific on the Miami eco- nomic base it is also clear that the perceptions of what Miami is internally and externally are probably off the mark from the reality. So a very important '.;inning in a general sense is to make known the strength of this` community which I don't think is shared as much outside as perhaps it may not even be shared with inside the community and we outline various other factors that go to that. Secondly, the City is not an island - the City is not an island. Then' City exists within a larger region. Julio makes reference to certain specific numerical targets. If the City is to maintain itself insofar as its present levels of employment or if you wish minimize its present levels of unemployments - it is important to recognize that as the economy of this region grows therewill be certain jobs that will be generated within the the City's Limits,' there will be many jobs that are generated outside the City's limits and it is most import- ant from the standpoint of, the citizens of this community to have access to the jobs outside as well as hopefully opportunities to gain the jobs.that will be generated inside the City Limits. That means first of all making"know through - is services. 30 J A N I 0 19 informationwhatthose jobs are, it means creating mechanisms so that -that' information can be communicated to those who would wish those kinds of jobs, it means hopefully taking advantage of transit and other means that are available for those who may not be able to have their own private vehicles- to go after those areas and a variety of those techniques. It also means to the degree that this helps you improve your opportunity for generating more jobs within the City Limits creating industrial parks that can be com- petitive with those outside bringing into the City or preserving those indus- tries that might be inclined to move out and a variety of those kinds of promotional programs. Now the materials that we covered go into that but in numerical terms please don't lose sight of the fact that there are the needs for some 5,000 jobs per year over the next 4 or 5 years that should be generated so that you can meet the needs of an expanding labor force given population change. But to do that it is as important to keep minds of those opportunities outside the City Limits as well as those:inside the City Limits. Mayor Ferre: For example, the airport Mr. Levine: Exactly. Now, having spoken to various things, I do want to stress again, I'm going to in effect sum up and open to questions that the report in question provides information that will enable you to be able to assess the status of the City's economic development. Secondly, it highlights a variety of programs that are important to be carried on throughout.the activities of the government - economic climate, outreach to the business com- munities to make sure that you're aware of their needs so that you can work - if the popular expression is the public private partnership so that you can put reality behind the public partnership verbage and then a variety of'. other special programs that might be entertained by the City. Now one, just one of those programs deals with a matter that will come up right after our presentation is concluded, namely with a development corporation which I'll leave for Julio and others to further expand on. Mr. Castano: Well, first may I ask are there questions out there? Mayor Ferrer Does this conclude your charge? Mr. Levine: Mr. Mayor, it does. The materials that you have are one of five volumes - when I_ spoke before of a telephone book it was not an exaggeration. Those volumes consist of the summary which hopefully brings forward the basic and most important elements, the bottom line as you would describe it, and four others that describe in greater degrees of detail information about what the nature of these opportunities are, information as to what the informational basis, ways that that informational base might be maintained and updated over time so that you're looking at. what in effect is a summary of that rather ex pensive effort.. Mayor Ferrer Well, I have not, I will say to you had an opportunity to read this so it is really difficult for me to ask any intelligent questions. I would like, are you based here in Miami? Mr. Levine: We have a Miami office that is working with Julio and others of his staff. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Levine: and perhaps. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Levine: I see, you yourself are where? I work in the Washington area but I do communicate quite a bit Your office is in Washington? My personal office is in Washington. Mayor Ferre: So if I have further questions beyond after I've can meet and sit down with you and I would imagine the rest of sion would have the same opportunity. read this I the Commis Mr. Levine: Absolutely, emphatically so. Mayor Ferrer A11 right, are there any other questions? Mr. Levine: Mr. Mayor, if I may just extend my remarks, there has been a request through Julio and others of the staff that I expand a little on some of the materials that are in part III, the response, and I'm mindful of your. timing so I'll be very quick about this. And if you wish, there is a reference here to the third section of these materials that speak to the response and . 31 Mayor Ferre: You're talking about Part III? Mr. Levine: Part III, the response. Now this represents the nature of steps or actions that might be entertained by the City and it speaks to a number of areas including those that are listed before you and I'll just recite them so all within the room can hear them. They, include firstly identifying and improving on the business climate within the city and specifically identified within that area series of programs` that go down the line of what we call business outreach, that is to extend and hear in a more institutional way from the business community, creating a business resource panel with the view of helping you know and indeed be very specific about the various aspects and potentials of the community so that that in turn could be the message to others inquiring about locating within the City; establishing what we call a business hotline, I'm not sure if you have red telephones but if you wish to think of it that way, giving someone a place where they can call and make known their problems so hopefully you can ad- dress those problems and remediate them very quickly. Further, to expedite wherever possible the decision processing within the City so that actions once agreed on can take place smoothly and quickly with dispatch to get on with the implementation. We speak to certain other incentives that might be created also to entice and to maintain business within the community. Second of all, another major.. basic :program is to work on the City's image and that might sound somewhat negative or perhaps nebulous but it means speci- fically what I was referring to earlier, namely to communicate the various assets of this community to the outside world so that they're aware of the fact that your's is a very important service economy and the kinds of facil ities that are available to them if they were to locate here. It also means stressing what the geographic coverage might be for that message,; and one of the things that's very important to know is that the City does receive a great deal of growth or expansion on the part of industries or establish- ments moving from Florida down to hear. Apart from those other horizons that might be interesting within the United States or abroad. Thirdly, we speak of providing certain physical facilities or opportunities for business ex- pansion and relocation and that begins with as mundane`a situation as having information available as to what is the nature of industrial space available, what is the pricing mechanism of that industrial space, who does one have to speak to to obtain that and in other words smooth the entire process of meet- ing inquiries as they come in so that you have someone who is charged with that responsibility, is accountable for it, hopefully can be assessed or evaluated on their performance in meeting these kinds of requests.' fourthly we speak about human capital, a term that probably is abused but what we are speaking to here are the strengths that are inherent within the City's labor force, it's multi-lingual labor force and certain skills that are vested in that labor force and re also address questions of training as to how that might be expanded or broadened. Fifth we talk about certain financial and technical assistance to businesses and Julio makes reference to programs that might be available through the Economic Development Administration and those are among those, those are not to the exclusion of others but they are very important and to facilitate this form of financial and technical assistance we cite certain activities that the City might pursue. And lastly, while not thought of as being economic development in the more narrow or conventional sense, we speak to continuing the efforts that have been undertaken to attract middle and upper middle income people to the City, that this broadens the base of the community and by so doing helps generate other economic development in its turn and, therefore, we've made note of that in this recitation. Mayor Ferre: Okay, any questions? Mr. Plummer: Question, when did you surrender this report to the City? Mr. Levine: The report is actually five reports and the five reports have &Lei provided to the City's staff sequentially over time, recognizing that the most important elements of the program and the strategy have really been crystallized over the last three months. Mayor Ferre: Well, when was the first report and when was the last report submitted? See, this says October, 1979 - An Economic Development Strategy for Miami, Florida Executive Summary prepared bythe project management com- mittee office of Trade Commerce Development, October 1979 by Gladstone Assoc- iates. Mr. Levine: Let me see if I can't be responsive to the question. The beginn- ing of this process was a design of what it was that we were going to,address and that took place in about March or, April of 1979 so that fromtheSpring of last year until about the fall of last year the program was very intensively under way and now throughout that period these reports were coming out period- ically. 32 JAN 0 19& Mir. Plummer: I'll ask the question again. When was this report surrendered. to the City? Mr. Grassie: What the City Commission is asking, Julio, is when was this, book that we passed out to the City Commission five days ago in your posession? Mr. Castano: Mr. Commissioner, that report was given to us approximately 20 or 30 days ago, it has to go through a process of being accepted and reviewed by the management group then it has to go to the board of Trade and Commerce for their review and approval and then to you. I think that your concern, if I may mind read what you were trying to say is why are we given this and why are we asked to accept this verbatim forever and ever. Mr. Plummer: Under no circumstances. Mr. Castano: Not at all, this is the beginning of a.... Mr. Plummer: The question I really have, if you want to second guess me I'll help you, when was that delivered to the City? Mr. Castano: Well, it has been delivered to the City throughout the year. Mr. Plummer: You gave it to me not five days ago, you gave it to me. Tuesday night and' you expect me to sit here and understand it and accept it - govern- ment by crisis. Sir, you are doing this City, not me, not you individually please, any remarks I make are not personal, the City .an injustice. You pay $70,000 for a report, and knowing the background of the, company that did it it is probably a damned fine report and 48 hours ago you gave me enough to read for two weeks - even if I didn't have to make a living. And yet you come here today and you're going to ask me to accept this report. Julio, you can't read that fast, and understand and digest and you do this day in and day out yet I as a Commissioner have been handed this stuff on Tuesday night late and ask me to understand to do what is to be done. Julio, you know what you're doing? One more report on the shelf. There isn't a man sitting up here who can understand and intelligently discuss with this gentleman what is to be accomplished and you're putting one more big report on the shelf. Now this material should have been given to us if Tuesday night when it was, this Commission should have two or three weeks to read that over, to under- stand it then this gentleman be invited here and then we, the commission, if we so fit, and I would believe we all would, this is the guts of our City, could read and have intelligent questions and have some kind of intelligent dialogue. Mayor Ferrer I've got two related questions to that. First of all let me comment tha I agree with Plummer that it's really a disservice to this Com- mission and to the city to give us this and expect for a quick digestion and an acceptance. I understand that that may not be the case and that's what I want to get to. What you're asking us to do this afternoon is to pass a reso- lution accepting the Community Economic Development Demonstration Project commissioned to and prepared by the National Urban Development Services,Cor- poration for and in behalf of the City of Miami. What is the importance of that resolution? What is the importance of that resolution? I mean why do you need that today? Mr. Castano: We need that today in order to start a process, a planning proc- ess. Mayor Ferre: To processing what? Mr. Castano: Well, this report is the basis for a set, a Comprehensive Eco- nomic Development Strategy and that strategy will be developed through the years. It is a constant moving action. Mayor Ferre: I'm going to get off of you because I really have to address this not only to your boss but to his boss and that's the City Manager. This is a very important subject and you're asking us to accept the thrust of this and what's the importance of doing it today, Mr. Manager? Mr. Grassie: I would conclude,. Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission that we are not going to ask you to act on it today. Mayor Ferre: I would say that is a wise conclusion on your part. Mr. Grassie: I agree with you with regard to the timing question. I think that it certainly deserves further discussion and if the 'City Commission were '33 t a l willing to do it I would suggest that we may wish to make this the subject of. a special workshop, not a decision making process but rather a workshop in which we could have some extensive discussion of this over the period of a couple of hours. Mayor Ferrer All right, we have our chairman of a board here, I would, like to ask the chairman to stp forward. Would you, please? And identify yourself and then ---- Mr. Juan del Cero: My name is Juan del Cero. Mayor Ferre: And you are the chairman of? Mr. del Cero: The Advisory Council on Trade and Commerce Development. Mayor Ferret Mr. del Cero, have you had an opportunity to read this? Mr. del Cero: Through several meetings of the Advisory Council we were given the opportunity to go over some of the information in these reports but we. were given this which is a summary plus this set of documents about three or four weeks ago and we haven't really gotten into the details.... Mayor Ferre: Has your committee met? Mr. del Cero: Yes, we've met, we've met three or four times Mayor Ferrer Have you discussed this? Mr. del Cero: Basically, not in very great detail as to dollars and cents, we've discussed it in theory. Mayor Ferre: Have you come to a conclusion on it? Mr. del Cero: Yes, we did. Mayor Ferre: What is your conclusion? Mr. del Cero: We voted at the last meeting to accept the report. Mr. Mayor, excuse me a minute. What I wanted to make clear was the action we took was not in any great detail, you know whether it is going to cost $139.72, we discussed in principle a very - not very sketchy but a not too detailed blue- print for the City's economic development. Did you take minutes in your meeting? Mayor Ferre: Mr. de. Cero: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Are those minutes available to members of the Commission? Mr. del Cero: I'm sure the staff of the Trade and Commerce Office has them. Mayor Ferre: Would you make those minutes available to members of the Com- mission so that when we get into our deliberations we'll know what you talked about and what your conclusions were? Mr. Plummer: The norm is that all boards send copies of their regular meetings to this Commission, that's the norm. Mayor Ferre: Okay, is there anything else to be discussed on this subject at this time? Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I would hope that this Commission would be af- forded the opportunity to have at least two weeks to read this material over and then schedule your workshops sometime thereafter because you know if we're going to receive the fruits of this labor. which I hope very much that we are . I think we have to go down this road together, and when I say together it is not just this Commission it is the Commission the DDA, the Committee, every- body has got, to go down this road together. Of course, without question 'the buck stops here, we've got to provide the leadership. But I do hope that once the leadership and the policy' is established of what way this Commission wants to go that we go down that road together and the only way I know to get every- body. together is to get them from the very word go and everybody have their say and everybody have their input and then once the policy is established let's go down that road together. 34 J A N •i v 16P Mayor Ferre: Julio, I want to ask you again, I'want omake esure r re.that wout e're not going to create something that we're going to have any applications for funding, or do you have something which will be impacted by this Commission "Well, acting today? brought don'tit want you Jayou ming bac h,. in three weeks and saying, Well, you know we if you had voted then we would have gotten a half a million dollars, you didn't want to do that so now we've lost our opportunity. Mr. Castano: No, Mr. Mayor, the. only impact this would dnexto one have you thisillhreport is the basis for a series of implementations, the r promptly from the National Development Corporation is implementation of a Ciywidefinancialassistancefor businessdevelopment. Development process but we have That will have some impact in the Community P ample opportunity to meet with you between now and the next Commission Meet- ing, go through more detail in this information and on the 24th if you're reason ready to .discuss this or accept.trwouldreport notWhavecan anoadversethen. impact ononly any of we brought it to you today, and it were of for, and ets is foa your information. oftthe.Whole Meetingtinrof whichawe, would discuss and we requested a Comma this at great length. Mayor Ferre: Okay, the next question to you is on Item H which is going to follow in a second. When did we receive the National Urban Development Cor- poration packet? Mr. Castano: Approximately the same process, ababoutothe s ee•time, it had to go through the management group, the council Mayor Ferre: Before Mr. Plummer asks you the question may I beat him to the punch and as you the question and further ask youou towgivebefore us your co clusi n? b Would you think that we'd be etter off 9 on this and come to a conclusion? Mr. Castano: That's fine, Mr. Mayor, but I would like to make a presentation and highlighting of the studies. Mayor Ferre: Yes, I think it would make sense for you d I to make your presenta- tion so that as we read it we'll have it n e no probiensems wihy that just so long as you don't expect for us to come to any unless you tell us that there is an emergency and if that's the case I want to know what it is. Okay? Any other questions on Item G before we go to H? A11 right, thank you very much. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Levine, will you be able to be back here in two weeks, sir? Mr. Levine: Two weeks is the 24th, I have a conflict but perhaps.. Mr. Plummer: Someone of your company could be here to represent? The pretty young lady can come here and Mr. Levine: Perhaps, or if you would like to have a workshop session I'm always prepared to do .that if you wish. 1 f i Ytt PRESENTATION OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEMONSTRATION PROJECT BY NATIONAL URBAN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CORPORATION Mayor Ferre: All right, we're now on Item H. Mr. Castano? Mr. Julio Castano: Basically, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, the Financial Assistance Program for the City of Miami should be a city-wide program as is going to be explained in greater detail by the next consultant. This partic- ular study was undertaken Since we received the $60,000 grant; from CSA, the Community Services Administration in Washington to look into the possibilit- ies of having such a financial assistance program in the City of Miami as is the case in most cities throughout the United ;States. We contracted with the firm of National Urban Development Services Corporation who will delineate for you (1) a theoretical look at such services and a practical model that could be implemented for the City and, I'd like to introduce at this time Mr.. Ben Goldstein, the Chairman of the National Urban Development Services Cor- poration. Mr. Ben Goldstein: Thank you, Julio. Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I gather from the last ten -minutes of conversation that this is just going to be a get acquainted kind of thing and in a sense I think that's good too because warned not to talk you know too theoretically, not to talk about mechanisms, to get down to some concrete kind of stuff but there are a number of assump- tions, approachs and what have you that I think preceed;your reading of the report and we appreciate the opportunity to talk about them. First who we are because we're not a large company like Gladstone Associates, it's the first time we worked for the City of Miami. We're the National Urban Develop- ment Services Corporation, a subsidiary of the National Council for Equal Business Opportunity. We've been in the business of minority business develop- ment and inner city urban economics now for about 15 years in Washington, I'm a former businessman, this is a sort of a second career and we've worked in many many communities, perhaps 40 to 50 cities around the country and many many neighborhoods. At first we were concentrating on minority business devel- opment, more recently we've been doing a lot of neighborhood and downtown com- mercial revitalization and we're very, I would say sensitive to what people in the inner city are looking for with respect to this kind of a program and the kind of institution that we're about to recommend. We are presently working in Atlanta, Washington D. C., Milwaukee, New Haven, Schenectady all around the country on these kinds of programs and more particularly we have a contract with the U.S. Conference of Mayors for Community Business and Economic Develop- ment which I think is very close to this kind of thing where we're working in Oakland, St. Louis, Phoenix, San Juan and El Paso to provide cities with a broad approach to urban partnerships which is the focus of the thing but to involve neighborhood and community based organizations, minorities, small bus- iness people and medium size kind of businesses. My own background, as I indi- cated is a business person, I'm a former retailer, I will share the presenta- tion with Herb Bailey here who is the President and Executive Director of the Philadelphia City -Wide Development Corporation. Mayor. Ferre: this?: Is that a subsidiary? What does Philadelphia have to do with Mr. Goldstein: He is a consultant to us and he has been acting as a consultant` to us trying to bring to the project the experience in Philadelphia which I` think most people who are familiar with the field know to be one of the most successful models around the country, the Philadelphia City-wide. Mr.. Plummer: Let me dwell a little bit further up, who you are. You'.re a` -com- pany for profit? Mr.. Goldstein: No. Mr. Plummer.: You're a non-profit?> Mr. Goldstein: Yes, that's right.. Mr. Plummer: Are you based in the State of Florida? Mr. Goldstein: No, we're based in Washington, D. C. JANiC l _ as Mr. Plummer: And your Charter is .... Mr. Goldstein: .It's a 501 C-3 tax exempt institution we're incorporated the City of Washington, D. C. Mr. Plummer: But it is a non-profit Mr. Goldstein: That's right. Mayor Ferre: On that vein, because I think it is important that we understand these things at the outset, you are a to freeoucorporatiodo thisorthatyat bacsicallya nd this kind of service around the country Y what you try to do is you set up with government, with local governments pro- grams to assist inner city and inner city businessmen in economic development. Mr. Goldstein: In three areas: business development and financial packaging, commercial revitalization and training the professional capacity. Mayor Ferre: And you specialize in that, that's what you do. Mr. Goldstein: That's correct. Mayor Ferre: Now, in that area how large a staff do you have, Mr Goldstein? varied from about 8 or 10 to 15 or 20 professionals. Mr. Goldstein: We have corporation. Mayor Ferre: I see. So it is basically a corporation of people who have expertise in this general area, you've got a track record to go on. Mr. Goldstein: Originally funded by the Ford Foundation. Mayor Ferre: And you've got a lot of people that you call upon as consultants like Philadelphia... Mr. Goldstein: That's correct. Mayor Ferre: ...to come in and say, "Hey, you did this in Philadelphia, it's successful, it's a great operation, how can we do it in Miami?" Mr. Goldstein: And Philadelphia was one of our client cities for many years in which we ran a delicate agency in the Model Cities area for about three years prior to the creation of the Philadelphia City Wide so we have a long experience and relationship with Philadelphia and Mr. Bailey has been work- ing very closely with us. Mayor Ferre: We're going to hear him in a moment but as -astatement to you, Mr. Goldstein, you have to realize, and this is not any criticism, you know, to ourselves it's just a statement of fact. Miami is not Philadelphia or Chicago or Boston, these are cities that have been doing these things for the last 10 or 15 years. The fact that you see millionnseven hundredethousand study has not been done in this whole community ofa people in 20 years is an indication as to how far back this. City and this community is in these type of things. We're just beginning a process that the rest of the nation has been doine for 10 or 15 years. Mr. Goldstein: I have two points toiaMake. and a fewlotherwork much smaller places New Haven and Fairmount, West Virgin than Miami and 1 think the main point is that we tried to bring to Miami which is just getting started, as you indicate, the experience over the years in these cities because there are some fundamental principles that we think obtained - what is Philadelphia or Fairmount, West Virginia in•terms of bus- iness development, financial packaging and„that kind of'commercial revital- ization? Okay? We were asked and we presented a report on the financial a,;, i :teince program for the Office of Trade and Commerce Developmentas a re!;pon e to a request for proposals in the CSA funded project that Julio mentioned called the Community Economic Development Demonstration Project. What. 1'.11 try to do is present a couple of basic assumptions and our basic approach to this kind of project and what are the highlights of our recom- mendations very briefly because you're going to have an opportunity to read that.... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Goldstein,' one last statement to you. Please don't assume that anybody here including the Mayor understands what CSA and all these things are. You have to tell us that it's Community Service Administration which is part of the federal, government and that they gave us the $70,000 for this study and this is the kind of thing that the CSA, Community Service Administration does. 37 I ; 4 Mr. Goldstein: Well let's getthe numbers st raiyht., we've eot No federal gibberish, Okay? Now, basically we, proceeded t.hrouyh thu pt i, j ect and we predicated our whole approach on a few key assumptions and I think this is important to say because as you indicated Miami has not prog- ressed very far in terms of business development or economic development at this point. When we read the proposal our first reaction was that we couldn't present the financial assistance program for the Office of Trade and Commerce to supplement its Commercial' Service Program which is the way it was put to us unless we looked at the thing as. part of a comprehensive city-wide economic development process. I think it is important, and Herb will be talking about the city-wide.aspect, we think that is assumption num- ber one. The thing has to be looked at city-wide because we work in many neighborhoods and we know that unless the resources and the capabilities on a highlyprofessional city-wide basis are brought to bear on these pro ducts very little in the way of results are obtained. Okay? (2) We said that this had to be part of a larger economic strategy, the kind of thing tat would emerge from a knowledge of the kind of material that Gladstone presented and other material that we'brought to us. We also said, and this is kind of important because we sit in this room and we talk about economic development and I'm quite sure that the Commissioners and the people out here would have their own personal ideas of what they mean by economic develop. ment. Our idea of economic development starts with business development and financial packaging, not studies, not whatever the case may be but. putt ing income producing job creating enterprises into being. Now that's an important difference because in many cases economic development starts with ail kinds of things but rarely with that kind of entrepreneurial approach to business development and financial packaging and we pride ourselves that we are essentially an implementing organization that likes to emphasize that aspect of economic development - business development and financial packaging and using the resources that are available federally and locally behind the development of what we call viable- feasible packages. Okay? So that the program plan that we presented for this organization is the thing that in effect determines the structure rather than the other way around. We don't know what kind of structure to recommend here unless we know what we're going to be doing. eAndAnd what we're going to be doing is essentially three things business development and financial packaging, we're going to be doing commercial revitalization in neighborhoods and downtown and we're going to be dcing something,called management and technical assist- ance to people because there have been too many programs that just give the guy - here's $25,000, a warm body, get out there and try to do something it doesn't work. We're talking about things which pragmatically and in terms of a lot of experience are working at the present time. Most import- antly we're looking at this thing in terms of'a highly professionalized bus- iness development operation which operates on the centralized basis, the kind of services which are not now available in the City of Miami and we did listen earlier in the day to some of the organizations here who want to become involved who areasking the City for money and we understand that, we work with them very closely but we .can assure those organizations that the kind of program` and services that we're talking about will resound to their benefit, that we will be able to do the packaging in a professional way that very few organizations are able to provide for themselves. I don't want to get in the middle of the political thing but that's a very fundamental thing because we were asked to comment on whether what we were recommending would simply be a duplication of what neighborhoods and community organizations would be doing our answer is that it is not in terms of quality, scope and effectiveness, we think there is going to be quite'a difference. Okay? We're talking about dealing with several constituent groups. We're talking about dealing with minorities and I guess Cubans aren't minorities here in Miami but Cubans and blacks, we're talking about small: and medium size busi- nesses because for instance we think we can do a downtown in -fill between ,ur mayor projects that are going on downtown,we think that we can do things to support the growing international trade here in kinds of small businesses that can be provided and mainly, and this is the thing that goes on around the country that is rarely understood correctly, to provide some basis for'broader participation of small business minorities and others of that kind in the larger projects that go on downtown. In the growth of the, economy that rarely happens. We think it can be done. Okay? And finally, not finally but another important point, we'd like to make some kind of con- nection on a management system basis between all the fancy planning and the objectivew which I call mother love objectives and the implementation process - that usually doesn't happen. So in Oakland, for instance, next Monday morn- ing we're meeting with the tlayor and the head of the Economic Department to show them how to put together an Economic Development System because strateg- ies and objective are beautifully articulated but the implementation in terms of projects are rarely carried out and implemented in the way they ought to J A P,N 1 0 1980 be. We're talking about.a a private quasi -public organization. Incident:ally, going back to the other matter first, the key word in our lexicon is that there be a balanced program. Balanced in the sense that we don't think it is too difficult to be doing neighborhood revitalization at the same time that you're doing downtown. We don't think it is too difficult to start promoting small business and other things of that kind at the same time you're doing the major projects. We think that it is incumbent upon, and you men are the political leaders of the community, to offer the City a balanced program in terms of who benefits from the economic development sys- tem and we think this is a key and very sensitive point that needs to be addressed. Finally, we're coming to the private quasi -public organization that Herb will be talking about, we think that this kind of structure best answers the need for highly professional kind of operations that this city- wide development organization ought to be in providing services to the com- munity. We're talking about the maximum utilization and leveraging of federal resources, I mentioned that. And finally we're talking about tying in with the neighborhood organizations as well as with the private sector. Our ball game is that the City and the federal government don't have nearly the kind of resources.that can make this kind of ,program work. It needs to involve private investment at every point. It needs to involve the kind of, assistance with minorities to provide some kind of augmentation, supplement- ation of equity, intra-subsidies, that kind of thing so that people can. start doing things in this kind of an economic'period Now, this is the basis of our recommendations, our recommendations are for a number that we have for this quasi -public organization, that we do this kind of packaging on a public leveraging for a private sector investment, that we do this through the three functions I mentioned - I won't repeat it again - and that we do it through a simple delegate agency contract for professional ser vices which this city would work out with the newly created organization. Now at the present time I'd like to call on Herb Bailey who is doing this. kind of thing. I talk about it, he does it. In Philadelphia he is doing a remarkable job and I hope that you won't assume that what happens in Phila- delphia canpt happen in Miami, that one city is a million' seven and you're • three, four hundred thousand, whatever the case maybe because in principle we've done this in other cities. We've done this in Wilmington we've done this in Baltimore and Washington, many other places, the exact kind of thing that. Herb is talking about, Herb has some excellent experience we'd like him to present the main aspects of what he thinks could apply here. Mr. Herb Bailey: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I would just like to say I agree with you when you said Miami is not Philadelphia.',You're right. Ms. Hirai: Excuse me, your name and address for the record, please,. Mr. Bailey: I'm Herbert Bailey. I am the President and Chief Executive Officer of the Philadelphia City -Wide Development Corporation. I am a con- sultant to the National Urban Services Development Corporation for the pur- pose of developing a delivery system for the City of Miami. As I was saying. before, Mr Mayor and members of the. Commission, you're right Miami is not Philadelphia. However, in our experience across the country we have found that the problems besetting Philadelphia. are pretty much the same problems that we have found in other cities across the country. They are all ar.ffer- ing from some process of economic. deterioration in the inner city and in the neighborhoods. They're suffering from some process of deterioration in the small business community and especially have not addressed the need of providing adequate business development assistance to the minority commun- ity. So what we are recommending here is an experience that has been car- ried out that has been funded by the City of Philadelphia and one that we think will work anywhere. Mayor Ferre: ,Mr.. Bailey, let me interrupt you so we can establish, so that. as we listen to you we know who you are. You're the President of the Philadelphia City -Wide Development Corporation? Mr. Bailey: Yes. - Mayor. Ferre: How big is that, do you have 10 employees, 1,000? Mr. Bailey: Well,• I have said that perhaps we wouldn't have that relation- ship but I'd be more than, glad to tell you because realizing that Philadelphia is the 4th largest city in the country and the requirements to carryout a program of this type in Philadelphia would be ,somewhat different than it would be for a city of 3.or 400,000. We do have a budget of 1.5 million dollars a year. We do have a staff, an administrative staff of 41.employeees that carry 39 on five divisions. It did not start that way but it has evolved to a cor- poration of that size for'the purpose of carrying on the economic development activities of the City. Mayor Ferre: How old is your corporation? Mr. Bailey: The Philadelphia City -Wide Development Corporation a half years old.... Mayor Ferre: Were you there from the beginning? Mr. Bailey: Yes, and I'll sort of give you a little background on that because the people are here from'Model Cities and I want to say Mayor Ferre: That's exactly why I'm asking this question because I want. George Adams to listen and all of us here to see what your experience has been in Philadelphia. Mr. Bailey: I can understand the emotions and concerns of the Model Cities Advisory Committee because at one time I was on the other side of the fence. I used to be the Deputy Administrator of the Philadelphia Model Cities Pro- gram. I was also the Director of administration and at one time its chief physical officer.. I have been a city official, I have been working with city government for 18 years and the same task was given to that you now have. I was approached by the Mayor and the Model Cities administration to develop an economic delivery system that would be different and one that would work. And when I say one that would work, we had gone through the experiences of providing a few dollars here and there to neighborhood based organizations We had absolutely,very little success, we had spent a considerable amount of. money for which we could not effectively evaluate the results of it in terms of what has been produced by neighborhood based organizations and we knew the system that would be able to address the needs of the community groups, we needed a system that the City could work within and could be response to the neighborhoods and we needed a system that the private sector would re- spect and we were commissioned by HUD and by the City to come up with such a system. This was in 1973. I had met Mr. Goldstein at a conference some years ago and the first thing I did was call him and have him consult with me to find out what we could do to come up with a system that would be re- sponsive to the total community of Philadelphia. We started out as a Model Cities Program, we had them as a delegate agency, we began a demonstration to see what could we do in terms of using Model Cities dollars to come up with a program that would be effective. And what you now have is the Philadelphia City -Wide Development Corporation that has in the past two and a half years put into the Philadelphia community $21,000,000 in business. development assistance to minorities and non -minorities for the purpose of economic development in that city. Mayor Ferre: That's tremendous. Let me ask you a question. Because you keep referring to Model Cities, is this a Model Cities operation or is this a City of Philadelphia operation? Mr.. Bailey: No, the Model Cities Program as we all know it has been phased out, community development has taken place, we are funded by the Office of Housing and Community Development. We are a part of the Mayor Ferre: Are you city-wide, is my question to you? Mr.. Bailey: City-wide. Mayor Ferre: In other words this is not one section of Philadelphia. You deal with with the whole city. Mr. Bailey: No, not one section of the City, we deal:with the whole City. Mayor Ferre: And the $21,000,000 you're talking about in 21 years is what you have accomplished in bringing in. Because I was going to ask you, I notice that you have for this year $6,790,000 so how could you have a mil- lion'pudgeted if you're putting in 6 million seven but you just answered it. Mr. Bailey: That's quite an interesting concept and we're more than glad to tell you how you would do that. The advantage of having an economic development delivery system that is associated with the city government and that is assoc- iated with the concerns of the community within that city is that you're able to leverage federal dollars more effectively with the private sector. For every one dollar that we spent of o ernment money we get eleven. W are • JANivi QU able to approach the banking community with a greater area of respect because they now know that it is something that is supported by the City, they now know that professional capability has been put there, they know that it is an organization that is going to live and not be out of exist- ence in a year or two, they also know that it is serving the needs of the community. And the banking community has a need to have that type of relationship because the CRA legislation which I think is not strong enough has caused them all to take notice and they are looking for ways in which they can participate with local, government. They are looking for ways in which they can satisfy the needs of the community and they're also looking for ways to comply with the new regulations. And we contend that a city- wide type of delivery system that is responsive to city government, and we contend that a city-wide delivery system that is designed to be the imple- mentation arm of government for which government supports has a much better chance of succeeding in terms of establishing the kinds of relationships with the banking community and the private sector that you need to do eco- nomic development. You cannot do it with just federal dollars and from my experience, and I've been in the field for 20 years, from my experience, and I've been with community based organizations, when you go to the private market for dollars to do business development, when you go to the private financial community to get assistance neighborhood based organizations do not get the same reception as local government that is supporting an organ- ization that is city-wide for the economic development purposes of a total city. That's how we can do with one and a half million dollars twenty-one million dollars of financing for the business community because we broker the financing. The other advantages that we see in terms of having a quasi public - and we like to use that term quasi -public - economic delivery sys- tem that is associated with the local government is that, and a lot of neigh- borhood groups will have some reservation about this but I can speak from experience. You can better serve neighborhood groups if government is in- volved and I never could understand why neighborhood groups would want to let the government off the hook, I mean after all you are responsible for this City and I think it is really an easy way out if you'can give somebody ten or fifteen thousand dollars and say Okay, that's your's and I'll forget about. you. We have been able, and I say this in all earnest, we have been able to effectively coordinate all of the City's services that can be used to effectively foster some type of economic development for the City. When the City is involved and when you have a city-wide operation that is responsi- ble to the City then you can get the other city departments involved with it and a greater impetus in terms of, providing economic development can be done with neighborhoods, with the inner city, with small businesses, with the minorities and we can show you in terms of benefits and how they will accrue to the city that the city in itself is the ultimate beneficiary be- cause for every business in Philadelphia that we expand, for every business that we put into operation the city gets five taxes so we're not fooling our- selves, the ultimate beneficiary of those whole process is the City itself and you set up sort of a beneficiary because the residents also benefit. We have found that interns of capability and in terms of becoming accepted with the private sector that government supported' types of develop- ment corporations can provide the funds to produce a better caliber of per- sonnel. This field requires a considerable amount of training. -You cannot go to college to find out how to do economic development delivery systems. You cannot go to college to find out how to package. So it doesn't seem sensible to me, and I've talked to a lot of neighborhood groups, and I ask them one question: How are you going to produce the capability to do what you want to have done? We have found that most of the dollars go to salar- ies for which very little results -come from.. So we think that in recommend- ing this type of delivery system but which is associated with local govern- ment, a function that requires a public entity that everybody in the city of Miami will benefit just as everyone in the City of Philadelphia is bene- fi.tt:inq. And I'll say one last thing and I'll quit. And I don't like to talk about Philadelphia's budget but when we started it was sort of Okay, we'll do i.t. and we'll see what happens. We'll give you the chance to fail. It did not fail. We had the National Urban Services Development Corporation as our consultants, we had the support of the Mayor, we had the support of the City Council, we had the support of other city departments and.with that type of support we were able to put together a mechanism that we can prove anywhere in the country that can work and that can fit into a situation that is going to make it economically. viable for any city to the point that next year our budget has been increased from 1.4 million dollars to $3,031,000. and has increased in terms of activity on other economic development activit- ies for the city in terms of financing minority contractors, in terms of providing sources for housing rehab, in terms of assisting the city in meet- ing its Affirmative Action Programs of minority business entrepreneurs, all kinds of spinn-offs can occur. So I would suggest, and I'm glad to be with. 41 J Q. N 101980 with some of my ex -colleagues in Model. Cities, that if you think about it in terms of what you should be getting from this city:and in terms of what this City should be:'doing for,the neighborhoods that a city-wide develop- ment delivery system of the•type that we are recommending can perhaps be of much greater benefit to you as a neighborhood. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you, Mr. Bailey,. and I would like very much, George, if before mr. Bailey leaves'you and some of your associates would meet with him I'd like to have that kind of you know off .the record be- tween your group, and I would like, Dena, perhaps we could take advantage of Mr. Bailey's presence here and have him meet with the Overtown Clatter area and Little Havana and the different areas that we want to get into so that perhaps they would have a clear understanding of what the Philadelphia. experience is like. I might point out that Los Angeles has had a very sim- ilar type, and the Mexican American group that started. What's the name of it? Mr. Castano: Teleque. Mr. Goldstein: We trained the Telaque people and Esteban Torres and all those guys back in about 1973. They're not doing this kind of thing, Mr. Mayor, I have to differ with you on that. There is a big difference between CDC's Community Development Corporation which Teleque is and .this kind of a city-wide which offers services to anybody who comes off the street as well as the neighborhoods and the other people who ask for it. Now this is important because Herb Bailey is perhaps too modest to talk about some of the specific things, you asked a question whether it was city-wide, it is,. I've written that report you have in front of you over 40% of the loans are now going.to non -minorities city-wide. Okay? With a black,man running the organization and doing it on a professional basis that serves everybody in the community. Okay? Now this is the key and some of the things he talked about he's involved with the water system, he provides the set aside kind of thing for minorities in any major kind of program that the City embarks in. 'If they're connecting the two rail- roads in Philadelphia he gets the work of making sure the minorities parti- cipate in that. Now all along the line that kind of thing comes when you get a reputation for being able to produce a product and produce some kind of a result. Mayor Ferre: All right, are there any questions of Mr. Bailey or Mr. Gold- stein? Mr. Grassie: Just as a last thing, Mr. Mayor, to follow up on the point we were making earlier, we would like to try and set a workshop date with you preferably before the 24th and I wonder whether the 22nd in the afternoon would be a good time for the City Commission? Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this before we get to answering that. Item 32 is a resolution that adopts the Economic Demonstration Project which basic- ally was Item G. Now I don't see that there is any reference to Item H and I'm confused. Is there a similar motion where you want us to accept? Mr. Castano: 31 addresses Item G and 32 addresses Item H, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Fosmoen: Neither of those need to be adopted, Mr. Mayor. Neither o those resolutions need adoption today. Mayor. Ferre: At this point. In other words let's go have a work session on them and then we'll hopefully adopt them at that time. The question is will the 22nd of January be acceptable to everybody on the Commission? All right, can we give you an answer, but please come prepared this afternoon: to answer as to whether or not you'll be available for work session on these two subjects again.. Rev. Gibson: Before they leave, I want the Manager and Ms. Spillman to hear this and Mr. Fosmoen. I hope you picked up what I picked up. I want to say that again. I hope you picked up what I picked up. You have know- ledgeable people in this City for two or three days, you would do well'to have those same people talk with all that hell raising you've had in the past. Now let me go a step. further. I don't want you to talk here because I'm going to put you all dead on the spot. I've been trying to say to you all you need one committee for Overtown, do you remember that? And you all don't seem to hear, at least if you hear you don't act nor react. Now note what that man said. That man said how they were able to take advant- age of government and all we have done in the past is we gave those people a few dollars and said to them, you know get out of my way, go do your own 42 r;.-�� IwL). thing. Even you, Mr. Grassie, in a report, do you remember that report you gave us which literally said you didn't do a doggone thing. Do you remember that? The Washington Heights thing. Mr. Grassie: That's correct. Rev. Gibson: Okay, look, if you heard that man what appears to me is you would be courting him to death so you won't continue to go down the primrose path doing nothing. Now, I hope that before the man leaves or if you can get him to stay or whatever that you will assemble all those people over there or not all of them, that board so that you know the proof of the pud- ding is the eating and there is nothing like somebody has been successful. I'm sick and tired of that fighting over there. And fortunately two people are here this morning, and I see them out in the audience, who I trust will go back and say, you know, Gibson is that SOB that all of you all said he was. Because what I was trying to get us to do is exactly what that man just got through saying.and no way in the word have I been able to sensitize you all into that kind of philosophy. And there's Johnson and there's Dawson, I hope they heard - and you'd better talk with the brother before he leaves so that you know, you'll be tangoing. Where is that brother? Make sure that you show, sir, you make sure that you show those two brothers out there. Okay? Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you very much. Is there anything else to come up before this Commission? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me raise a question since you're talking about economic development and all that other business. I was at a party the other night - you know preachers aren't supposed to go to parties but nonetheless I was there, I'm a Commissioner.... Mr. Plummer: You were the host, Father. Rev. Gibson: Listen, I am a Commissioner so I have to show up sometimes just out of being polite. Mr. Plummer: That's why the Mayor and Mr. Grassie up on the Boulevard Rev. Gibson: And the Capital Bank people said something to me that I didn't particularly like. I'm disturbed and you know you're talking about minority participation, in the case of black folk we don't have no bank, the only bank we have is that:one out on 7th Avenue, that's where we are. All the other banks are elsewhere and I don't understand why the City doesn't put some of its money - and don't tell me about no savings account, I heard that, I know that - I don't understand why the City doesn't put some of its checking account money in that bank. Now, Mr. Grassie, you know I understand and nobody is asking for no pie in the sky. I don't understand.' Maybe you could tell me or---- What's that gentleman who literally` tells you where to put your money, where is he? Mr. Grassie: Well, Jim Gunderson, the Finance Director is the person who handles that but I can.... Rev. Gibson: Gunderson, Ok. address the issue and tell me to support minority banks and we can't. Okay? Summon him I want him to tell me. Summons him back here after lunch so he could so that we could decide whether we really'want put some of our money and let him tell me why here, I don't want anybody to tell me for him Mr. Grassie: We can have him do it, Father, or you know I can tell you now. Rev. Gibson: I know you could tell me but you know it is so much better when he knows that we're going to put him to that mike and put that axe on hjY; i,,.ck - chop it all around, put scars as an attorney got his scars, you know here lately, you know. Do you understand? Mr. Mayor, you were out of town, maybe you didn't read the papers. But anyway let him come and even though you're going to tell me finally I want him to come so that he knows that you aren't just talking to be talking. Okay? The issue was raised and if he's a good employee he doesn't want you on the firing line. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie: Mayor Ferre: Hadley? All right, Mr.. Grassie, you will call Mr. Gunderson? Yes. Is there anything else to come up before this Commission? Mr. JAN 1 0196G .13 0,14 Mr. Charles Hadley: Mr. Mayor, Comthissioners, I just want to respond to some of the statements that were made a few minutes ago. I happen to be on a board which is`an advisory: board and we're doing pretty good. Now we haven't been as smart as some of the banks .. Mayor Ferre: What's he talking about, what bank? Mr. Hadley: I'm talking about American First, I'll name the bank that I'm on the advisory board. We haven't been as smart as some of the banks but we have just about as much input and growth throughout Dade County or more than a lot of the rest up here starteda Now I don't intend, Mr. Mayor,` for no group whether they're with me or against me, it doesn't matter a damn to me, to start a political organization with the taxpayers' money is going to have to go there. That's all I have to say and I'll go to court on that. Rev. Gibson: Ask him to explain. Mayor Ferre: Well, I think you're just going to get into a big hassle. Thank you very much,Mr. Hadley. Mr.. Hadley: Don't be afraid to talk. Mayor Ferre: No, I'm not afraid to talk to you but I think you made a state ment into the record and unless somebody wants to challenge it..... Mr. Hadley: (INAUDIBLE - NOT USING MICROPHONE). Mayor Ferre: Any further discussion at this time. 10. MISS UNIVERST PAGEANT - .'^.IANI AS POSSIBLE LOCATION. gin:, d ., ;,• Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to share this information with the members of the Commission, that Mr. Grassie and myself, we've been meeting with the Presi- dent of Miss Universe, Inc., Mr. Harold Glazer. The reason for the meeting is that in conversation he has asked me, he has indicated interest in having the Miss Universe Pageant of 1980 that would be in the month of July in Miami. The advantages for the City'of Miami if such an event were to be held in Miami will be a tremendous exposure. We will have about 750,000,000 people that will be watching this over satellite TV all over the world. It will have a half an hour special on prime time promoting the host city, in this case the City of Miami and it will imply .a $70,000,000 input into our economy. At this particular time these conversations are preliminary,, he has a definite inter- est in coming here. It will depend basically on two factors, once the avail- ability of facilities to accomodate the pageant and the other one the question of the funding. I have discussed with the staff of the TDA, County, this on a preliminary basis and they have indicated that they are aware of this inter- est from Mr. Glazer and that they do believe that it is a good deal for this community and that they will be willing to cooperate in this endeavor. Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, we'll meet at 2:30. Thereupon the City Commission recessed for lunch at 12:47 O'Clock P.M. and reconvened at 2:35 O'Clock P.M. with Mayor Ferre absent. 44 JAN 1 t) i"n:; 11. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-C. Vice -Mayor Lacasa asked if anyone was present on Item #4, no one came forward. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-3 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-C (centerline sewer) IN LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5315-C (centerline sewer); AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTIFIED. (Here followsbody of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice- Mayor Armando Lacasa` 12. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-S. Mr. Lacasa: Is there anyone here on this item? (No one came forward.) The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved' its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-4 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-S (sideline sewer) IN LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE- MENT DISTRICT SR-5315-S (sideline sewer); AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTI- FIED. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote Commissioner Joe Carollo vote - AYES: . Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa 11. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION 'OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-C. Vice -Mayor Lacasa asked if anyone was present on Item 04, no one came. forward. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-3 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-C (centerline sewer) IN LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5315-C (centerline sewer); AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTIFIED. (Here follows bodyof resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa. 12. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-S. Mr. Lacasa: Is there anyone here on this item? (No one came forward.) The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-4 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT,SR-5315-S (sideline sewer) IN LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE- MENT DISTRICT SR-5315-S (sideline sewer); AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTI- FIED. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - Commissioner Joe Carollo AYrS: Ccmmi:ssioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. 13. AMEND SECTIONS 16-38 THROUGH 16-4.6 OF THE CODE, PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT. AND OPEN COMPETITIVE BIDDING BEFORE SALE, CONVEYANCE OF DISPOSITION OF REAL PROPErTY. Mr. Plummer: Before the roll call, Mr. City Attorney, reading from the back- up material it says here that it was necessary to reword the original draft submitted by Mr. Gunderson. Is that redraft since the First Reading? Mr. Clark: No, at the time that you had it before you last time, this is the identical draft. Mr. Plummer: How if any way does this differ from the referendum? Mr. Clark: Substantially it is similar, it substantially is the same as the referendum. We added the section with respect to the procedure in implement- ing that Charter Amendment. We go into more detail, Mr. Plummer. The Charter Amendment was just a basic requirement and this goes into detail, it also adds the different' sections that were there in that article that we rearranged. Mr. Plummer: In no way does this change the intent of the referendum? Mr. Clark: None whatsoever. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 16-38 THROUGH 16-46 OF THE CITY CODE OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,, BY REPEAL- ING SAID SECTIONS AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFOR NEW SECTIONS 16-38 THROUGH 16-46; PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT AND OPEN -COMPETITIVE BIDDING BEFORE THE SALE, CONVEYANCE, OR DISPOSITION OF ANY REAL PROPERTY, INCLUDING LEASEHOLD INTEREST THEREIN, OWNED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI, THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, AND THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; PROVIDING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO SELL CITY PROPERTY UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS, AND FOR ADVERTISING AND SEALED BIDDING; CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIZ- ING PAYMENT OF A 5% REAL ESTATE COMMISSION; PROVIDING FOR DISPOSITION OF SALE PROCEEDS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A'SEVEPABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of December 27th, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Gibson, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9052. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City. Commission and to the ' public. 46 JAN 0►9F 1 14. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISHING RATES AT ON -STREET ME11RS'. 4 AND DECAL RATES IN LOTS WHERE DECAL ARE SOLD AND MUNICIPAL PARKING GARAGES NOS. 1, 3, AND 4. Mr. Lacasa: #11, second reading ordinance, establishing rates On -Street.. Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mr. Lacasa: Moved. Rev. Gibson: Second. Mr. Lacasa: Seconded by Gibson, please read the ordinance. Call the roll.< AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING RATES AT ON -STREET METERS AND OFF-STREET METERS AND DECAL RATES IN LOTS WHERE DECALS ARE SOLD, AS LISTED HEREIN, AND ESTABLISHING RATES AT MUNICIPAL PARKING GARAGES NO. 1, 3, AND 4; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; RATIFYING AND CONFIRM- ING ALL ACTS OF THE OFF-STREET PARKING BOARD AND ITS DIRECTOR AS TO RATES HERETOFORE CHARGED; PROVIDING THAT THE DIRECTOR SHALL CAUSE CERTIFIED COPIES TO BE FILED PURSUANT TO SECTION 503 OF THE TRUST INDENTURE; CON- TAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of December 27, 1979 was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Lacasa. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. SAID ORDINANCE,WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9053. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members' of the City Commission and to the public. 15 SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING SUBSECTION (B) OF SECTION 39-2 OF THE CITY CODE ESTABLISHING A SURCHARGE FEE FOR USE OF CITY SHOW - MOBILES OUTSIDE THE CITY OF MIAMI. Mr. Lacasa: #112, ordinance second reading Do I hear a motion? Rev. Gibson: Move. Mr. Carollo: Second. Mr. Lacasa: Moved and seconded, read the ordinance. Call the roll. gl � /49 AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED- AN.ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTION (b) OF SECTION 39-2 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF. MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY ESTABLISHING A SURCHARGE FEE FOR THE USE OF THE CITY SHOWMOBILES.OUTSIDE OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF'MIAMI; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PRO- VIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE., Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of December 27, 1979 was. taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Gibson, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Plummer. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9054. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. 16. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: MODIFYING 1980 BUDGETS FOR THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION. Mr. Lacasa: #13, second reading... Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mr. Carollo: Second. Mr. Lacasa: Moved and seconded, read the ordinance. Please call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9000, ADOPTED OCTOBER 17, 1979, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, AS AMENDED;' BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR BY $32,411; INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS BY $48,607; DECREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, SEVERANCE PAY ACCOUNT, BY $81,018; FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING THE FY'80 APPROPRIATION FOR SAID DEPARTMENTS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, Passed on its first,reading by title at the meeting of December 27, 1979 was taken up for its second and final reading -by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: gl 50 JAh 1 0 198U AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Lacasa. NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Ferre. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9055. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. NOTE: THE MAYOR ENTERED THE MEETING AT 2:45 P.M. 17. PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS, ETC. 1. Presentation of a Key to the City of Miami to Mr. George Putnam, Acting Director of the HEW Office of Refugee Affairs. 2. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mr. Max Friedson upon the occasion of his 81st birthday. Mr. Friedson is the founder. and president emeritus of the Congress of Senior.Citizens. 3. Presentation of a Proclamation to Mr. Bill Klein, Vice President of Economic Development for the Florida Power and Light Company, who has been named "Humanitarian of the Year" by the City of. Hope National Medical Center. 4. Presentation of a Distinguished Visitors Scroll to Mr. Mariano E. Gruszczyk, a prominent businessman from Argentina. 5. Presentation of a Certificate of Appreciation to Mr. Jorge Prince, organizer of the 1st annual Florida Grand Prix, an international body-building competition. 6 Presentation of a Certificate of Appreciation to Mr. Armando Bucelo, Jr., Esq., in recognition of his important contributions to this community. Presentation of a Key to the City to Antonio (Tony) Casado who is the first Cuban Mayor in the United States. He is Mayor for the City 'of Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Casado is accompanied by his secretary, Raul Aue1. 8. Presentation of a Key to the City of Gustavo Marin, President of Abdala. 9. Presentation of a Commendation to Mr. Pedro Roig, for his efforts on behalf of the Miami community. gl 13. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORD. NO. 9019, BY APPROPRIATING FROM THE BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, $400,000 FOR THE NEW CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OFFICE FURNISHINGS Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are now on Item #8 which is the... on the 3 o'clock agenda and it is the first ordinance to come before us. It 1s the Capital Improvement Appropriations Ordinance by amending the Building and Vehicle Maintenance Department, heavy equipment. As I understand this item was discussed on December 27th and at that time for this discussion. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, that was deferred at my request. There was a number of reasons that I asked for the deferment and I want to preface my remarks on the fact that Mr. Mayor it was my, understanding at the time that this originally came up about six months ago, that this matter was set aside and was not to be done in the hopes of saving some money for the City. Obviously'the Administration understood it differently and I'm not going to in anyway try to put them down. Mr. Mayor, I am still at a point of not spending that money. I have had an individual who has approached me and has indicated that there is the possibility of two things and unfortunately, I had requested that, that be given to me before the meeting of today and the party has indicated it will take another week. Now, these two things would make me possibly change my mind. Number one, that the old furniture which is to be replaced is the possibility of that furniture to be sold saving a great deal of cash outlay. And number two, the possibility of getting a better price than what we have today for light furniture. The key in my estimation is the key of selling the old furniture. And Mr. Mayor, if it is forced to a vote today I must vote against the proposition. I understand the Administration's concern and that concern is that they supposedly had a deadline of the 31st of December for the prices to hold true and I can appreciate that concern. But I can also appreciate my concern and that the possibility of selling the old furniture and getting a better price than what we have presently. It would be my hope that this matter I` will ask be deferred one more time and at that time it is a matter,if it is not resolved that can go through. After all of that I would' like to move Mr. Mayor for the purposes outlined seeing as how you concur, that this motion... that this itrm be deferred for one more time and that would be my motion. Mayor Ferre: Alright, before we vote.., is there a second on that motion? Well, before we ask for a second let me`Mr. Grassie, understand. I understand a deferral for one session, I think that anybody in this Commission is entitled to do that. Now, I realize that there is a possibility that somebody could buy the used furniture and I think that's significant. And I realize also J.'L., that two weeks may not be enough for those people to have developed the properinformation. I don't have any problem with deferring it one more time until the 24th of January provided however, that this does not do and that the contract will still be available for us to exercise on the 24th. I see Mr. Mullins here and I would like to ask on the record Mr. Mullins... Mr'. Grassier No, I will respond to the questions Mr. Mayor. Ferre: Alright, Mr. Grassie. Mr."Grassie: Butsimplyto alert the City Commission to the history that we have had. You know, the reason that we have some urgency about this is that we do have a building that's coming to completion and we are going to end up with a new building finished and nothing to put in it. Now, just by way of background for the City Commission we have not in the Past proposed selling what furniture the City has and there are two reasons. Basically, you get for used furniture, but the other reason is that we have many City Departments which have been established in the last three years particularly through CETA funding for which the City has bought no furniture, so that we really have a lot of City operations, operating in a very marginal circumstance. What we would propose to do, assuming that we can get this purchase accomplished, is ic�2 JAN 1 0 1980 to then take that used furniture which is left andThcascadeueston itodotnmthrough departments to upgrade as many of them as p ftio of some importance because it takes the manufacturer approximately five months to get this accomplished, to get the furniture delivered to us. Now,... you I can't tell you that irreparable harm is going to take place if we put it off two more weeks. But we have put it off twice already and... Mayor Ferre: Well, you see, that... now, that... I had -an opinion, now you just changed it again. If you are telling me... because I was going to vote for this, but if you are telling me now that you can't tell me that between now and the twenty-fourth any reparable harm is going to happen and that we can hold this bid off until the twenty-fourth and that Plummer can come in through somebody that can make us an offer of purchasing all that furniture and save us a lot of money... Mr. Grassie: Well, but what I'm telling you Mr. Mayor is that we are not recommending to you that we put the furniture up for sale, so it's an academic question. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. In other words you say we have use for the furniture? Mr. Grassier We have use for the furniture. You know, we have put on three or four hundred employees through the CETA program and we haven't bought the first stick of furniture for them and they are operating basically on hand. -me - downs and anything that we can pull together from warehouses and old programs. Mayor Ferre: Ok. Further questions on this item? Mr. Lacasa, here is where we are on this. We are on Item #8, it's a question of the four hundred thousand dollars of new furniture, you have heard Plummer's position... Mr. Plummer: The furniture... and I have asked for it to be deferred one more time. Mayor Ferre: You have .heard Plummer's position on this. I asked the question if it would do i.rreparable:harm, the Manager said it's a moot question because it is the Administration's position that the furniture... the old furniture should not be sold, that there is a need for it. So that there in effect is no requirement to wait anylonger since... even if somebody comes in and make an substantial offer, we need the furniture anyway. Mr. Plummer: That was only one portion Mr. Mayor', which of course, the Manager has the right to disagree with. Mayor Ferre: Well, with regards to the question of the need of the furniture or the non -need of the furniture, I don't have any problems with that. I think that we have a new Administration Building and we need to have furniture that fits the building. Mr. Plummer: I move for it to be deferred one more time. Mr. Lacasa: Is there a second to the move? Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lacasa: Mayor Ferre: has seconded ON ROLL CALL: Rev. Gibson: You said no harm is going to... before this matter... Mr. Grassie: Well, what we are having Commissioner is that simply the whole schedule gets put back another two weeks and then we have to go back to the manufacturer and ask him to hold his prices is basically what happens. Rev. Gibson: And I think he will do that for us wouldn't he? Hopefully. Mr. Grassie: If you want us to do it we will... you know, we will certainly back to him and ask him to.... Mayor Ferre: Plummer, wait a minute, one more time on the record because I'm sorry I didn't hear it all. Why is it you want to put this off for two more weeks? There was no second to this. Alright, I second it. Alright, there is a motion that the item be deferred and Mr. Lacasa the motion, is there further discussion? Alright, call the roll. go gl 53 JAN 1 0 19E0 Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me preface the remarks first, again. Mayor Ferre: I mean just quickly to the... Mr. Plummer: I am at a point of not spending the money period. Mayor Ferre: You see, that's the problem. Mr. Plummer: Alright, that is the point. Now, I would change or entertain different thinking if two factors which have been purported to me could be possibly true. Onea purchase of the old furniture and two a better price on the new, then I would possibly entertain changing my mind. Mayor Ferre: You see, the question is... did we go to public bid on this? Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: How many people bid this? Mr. Plummer: Three. Mayor Ferre: And this is the low bid? Mr. Grassie: This is the low bid: Mayor Ferre: Alright, now the point is this, we have a new building, we got. new furniture that we want to provide for it. Plummer is against that, I understand that, but I don't think that we... you know, that's your position to vote against it, but I don't think we should delay really. Either we get on with this thing or we don't. Now, if you are telling me that you are going to... that we can get a much better price, then my question is why didn't the man bid lower then? Mr. Plummer: Well, I didn't want to get into that, ok. Rev. Gibson: Well, I think you ought to share it with us so we can be intelligent. Mr. Plummer: Well, Father, the person who I have, been speaking with has indicated that in the original bid, that the bids were so sketchy and so uninformative that there was a problem in bidding, then is coupled with the fact that the Administration tells me that this building was designedin a i certain way that only a certain type of furniture could de used and you don t use that furniture you got to go back and spend a hundred fifty thousand dollars. These are the items that I want to see for myself. Mr. Grassie: I think Mr. Mayor, that second point particularly needs -some clarification, because when Commissioner Plummer says a certain type of furniture that might imply in people's minds a certain brand of furniture. Mr. Plummer: No, sir, I didn't say that. Mr. Grassie: No, and I'm making that distinction. Mr.. Plummer: Yes, sir, I... Mr. Grassie: Now, what I think he is talking about when he says a certain type of furniture is what is called open office furniture which means that the furniture comes with integrated partitions that don't go to the ceiling. What that does is allow you to put more people and more function in less space. Nayor Ferre: Yes, but the point is that there is more than one company ,,that makes that kind of furniture and we got three bids on it and this is the best bid. Mr. Plummer: No, question. Right. Mayor Ferre: Ok. Rev. Gibson: Well, ask why didn't the company raise the question... I don't understand these companies, they can read just like us and maybe they don't understand... why don't they pick up the phone and call and ask what the meaning by.... II I II I111 IIIIIIIIIl!IIII!!I Mr. Plummer: I agree. g1. 5'4 Rev. Gibson: I think we need to say that to companies because they come here and call people to question the integrity of this Administration. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. I just don't think you need to go around saying you know... but once you have established in the minds of people that the Administration is not honest, not playing fair with the people, we have trouble. Mr. Plummer: Father, I will once again, bring up a related, but unrelated subject. And I continuously bring it up and it God willing some day I'm here long enough somebody will agree with me. There is and has been a need in this City for a professional spec writer. I have said that, I have tried at budget time to push it through, some who's sole job and responsibility it is to write specs for purposes of bidding. Look, I don't have to draw anybody a picture. When you put out fifty-eight bids for a million and a half dollars of automobiles and you get two bids, you put out bids of sixty bids and you get back three. Now, you know, that's got to tell somebody something some where along the way. It tells me something. When a man said he put out specifications for motorcycles and you take the specifications out of the book of one manufacturer, that's his allegation, not mine. Mayor Ferre: Well, but wait a mi 1 t' stick to this issue. nute, Mr. Plummer e s Mr. Plummer: Maurice, I have got to didn't want to belabor the point. Mayor Ferre: The issue is new furniture Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. it some many times, you know, I really for the new building. Mayor Ferre: And the fact that we have now... that we are now in a pattern of delay on this. Now, is your position as I understood it, number one, that we don't need any new furniture? Mr. Plummer: At the price offered, no, sir, I say we cannot afford new furniture at this time. Mayor Ferrer Ok. Now, that however, is that I understand it is not the position of the... of this Commissionas of... as I sense it. Now,... Mr. Plummer No, this Commission has never spoke to the affirmative. Mrs. Gordon who back in October, wasn't it Mr. Grassie? Mayor. Ferrer She made it a campaign issue. Mr. Plummer: Well, but it was at that time that it was before this Commission and it was turned down. Ma Ferre: Well it wasn't turned down, it was put off And then now we It was yor > will put it off again and we got a building that's damn near completed and we are going to have a finished building that's cost us near three million dollars and no furniture for it and I think that, that in itself... Now, my only question is this, did we Mr. Grassie, put this matter out for bid? Mr. Grassie: You did put it out for bid Mr. Mayor and before you put it out for bid the City Commission approved an appropriation for this furniture which is the only.. Mayor Ferre: How much did we approve? Mr. Grassie: Four hundred... just over four hundred thousand dollars. Mayor Ferre: Alright, the specs and the bid came in under that? Alright, now the specs that were written, are they properly written in your opinion? Mr. Grassie: They are properly written and we do not have complaints from the industry as a whole, that is not to say that we don't have some one person who may have complained... Mayor Ferre: Who were the three companies that bid this, would you tell me? You got there names there? Are they well known companies? Mr. Mullins: Yes, they are Mr. Mayor. They are dealers who handled steal case office systems furniture. 35 JAN1019.:) gl Mayor Ferre: And these are not flight by night operators? Mr. Mullins: No, sir, it's a national, national organization. Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: These are recognized national firms? Mr. Mullins: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Well, will tell you if that's the case, then I just don't think we should be putting this off. Mr. Plummer: Can I ask another question Mr. Mullins? How many specs were sent out to your recollection? Mr. Mullins Possibly fifteen, sixteen invitations. Mr. Plummer: What you are saying is that, that's all we have locally ofthose. kind of companies? Mr. Mullins: That's true. Mr. Plummer: About sixteen.. fifteen? Mr. Mullins: Right. Mr. Plummer: And what you are saying is that we got back three bids, is that correct sir? Mr. Mullins: That's true. Mr. Grassier Mr. Mayor, just to comment on that particular line of reasoning on Commissioner Plummer's part while you were away one of the things that came up was the purchase of cars and Mr. Cox made the point that while it was true that the City had receive only one bid on a major order for passenger cars, it was also true that the State of Florida had received zero bids for those same kinds of cars. Now, it is not something that is peculiar to the City of Miami. And Mr. Cox at that time two weeks ago recited half a dozen examples of how this happens with other units of government. Mayor Ferre: Well, we are in the middle of a vote, is there further discussion on this? And the question is whether or not to postpone or not? Continue the roll call. NOTE: ROLL CALL CONTINUES. Mayor Ferre: Alright, the item is deferred for... until the 24th of January. Mr. Grassier Is that your intention? Mayor Ferre: Sir? Mayor Ferre: I just wondered where in the voting everybody remembered how the... what the motion was to start with. Mayor Ferre: Yes, yes, the motion was made by Plummer that this item be deferred to... (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Ms. Hiria: For deferral. Mayor Ferre: What? Rev. Gibson: Read the motion. Mayor Ferre: The motion was Plummer said I want this item deferred and so I move for deferral. Lacasa seconded the motion, we voted, Plummer vote "yes", Lacasa voted "yes", when Gibson started to vote we asked a question and we got into a discussion after the discussion'we continued to vote, you voted "yes", Carollo voted "yes", I voted "no". t6 Mr. Grassie:,, My only question was whether that was what they intended. Whether they intended to deferral or not because I did not think that, that was the case. understand that, there Mayor Ferre: Oh, I apologize to both of you then, was any question on this. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry, that's my fault. Ok, with the permission of the rest of the Commission, Commissioner Carollo wants to change his vote to a "no" vote. Now, do you want to change your vote or not. Rev. Gibson: Mayor Ferre: Commission. Ok, I don't whole thing seconded by Yes, I think we ought to go ahead. Gibson, also votes "no" with the permission of the rest of the Do you want to change your vote? Do you want to change your vote? want to change... Now, just to make it prefectly clear, let's do this over again. The motion is made by Plummer to defer this item, Lacasa, call the roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa and defeated by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Plummer and Vice -Mayor Lacasa. NOES: Commissioner Gibson, Commissioner Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. ABSENT: None. Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Grassie for the clarification. Mr. Plummer: just defeated Mayor Ferre: We are now on item... Mr. Mayor, wait a minute, in all fairness to the rest of you who that motion the like motion would be in order now. Well, I'm waiting for somebody to make that motion. Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry. Mayor Ferree We are now on Item #8 and is there a motion then for approval on this? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, in light of the fact that this thing was properly advertised all of the national companies had an opportunity to participate and there was no misunderstanding, I don't think. At least that was not said here in the language of the specifications. I offer a motion that we proceed to purchase the furniture. Mr. Carollo: Seconded. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion, is there a second to the motion? Ms. Hirai: Mr. Carollo seconded the motion, sir. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sorry. Alright, call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9019, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 9, 1979, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980; BY APPROPRIATING FROM THE BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, HEAVY AND EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, RETAINED EARNINGS, AN AMOUNT OF $400,000 FOR THE NEW CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OFFICE FURNISHINGS; CONTAINING A REPEALER 57 gl is PROVISION AND.A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO (2) SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE. COMMISSION. Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Carollo for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by, the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Carollo, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: Mr. Plummer. ABSENT: None. ABSTAINING: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Carollo adopted said ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Rev. Gibson, Mr. Carollo, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: Mr. Plummer. ABSENT: None. ABSTAINING: None. SAIDORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO."9056. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to members of the City Commission and to the public. 19. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ANNETTE EISENBERG RE: OKTOBERFEST 1979. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, in deference to my good friend Irwin Christie, Mrs. Eisenberg would like to remind you that she is on item nine. Mayor Ferre: Well, T'rs. Eisenberg, I apologize. I thought that we had already... you know, because I was out for a bit and I; apologize to you. The Chair recognizes you. Ms. Eisenberg: I don't think my friend Irwin Christie would mind. Would you Erwin? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Ms. Eisenberg: Thank you. At this time on behalf of the Little River Commerce Association I would like to introduce to our Commission our Vice -President Don Bedner who would°like to make the presentation today. Mr. Don Bedner: Thank you, very much Annette, I will take just a moment of your time Mayor and Commissioners. This is a rare occasion we get a chance to thank the City of Miami for something special and we do thank you for your support of the Little River Oktoberfest. Attested, by the great turnout in upwards of sixteen thousand people attended the Littler River Oktoberfest this Past session and it was through your efforts and your contributions to our effort that we were able to prove that the City of Miami and Dade County can work together on such a cooperative effort and with that I would like to take the time to present each of you one of our Little River Navy T-shirts. Annette pass it out. Mr. Mayor and all the Commissioners and those here, we appreciate the opportunity to make the presentation. Ms. Eisenberg: And now because our Manager Joe Grassie has promised to come to Little River we want him to be properly adorned too. Mr. Bedner: Thank you all, very much. gl 20. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: REPEALING ORD. NO. 8994, WHICH ASSESSED FEES FOR SPECIAL OFF -DUTY POLICE SERVICES AND SUBSTITUTING AN ORDINANCE OF SIMILAR SUBSTANCE. Mayor Ferre: Alright, it's our pleasure to have in our midst Commissioner Christie, former colleague, former Commissioner Irwin Christie who wishes to be heard on Item #9. Commissioner it's always a pleasure to have you with us. Mr. Irwin Christie: It's a pleausure to be here Mr. Mayor, please the Commissioners. We are here on a deferred item concerning the repeal of Ordinance No. 8994. Let me see if I can capsule this so that there is no misunderstanding. The repeal of Ordinance No. 8994 repealed the number of factors, the overwhelming majority of them we agree with. We agree with the five dollar surcharge if you will, we have no objection there. We agree with mandatory liability insurance, we have no objection there. We suggest to citizens that, that area could be tightened up and we have had a meeting with your Committee and I am told that they are following through on that. Can everybody hear me? As to the workmen's compensation and the other aspects thereof, the new ordinance we think is exceedingly better than the prior ordinance. The only and I repeat the only area in the new ordinance that we object to is one repugnant not only to my client Jack Alfonso, the President of Sunshine Security, but to the majority... overwhelming majority if not all of all the people in the security business in the City of Miami. Now, our problem only relates to two little words or three little words. In the original ordinance it had these words "whereas off -duty City Officers_ received authorization from the Chief of Police to provide exceptional and non -routine, law enforcement services to business and businesses requesting suchspecial services". The words are "exceptional" and "non -routine", meaning in effect just... those words are not ambiguous. That means off -duty Police Officers should not reply off -duty services with the City of Miami uniform, the gun... all the equipment that the citizen of Miami pay unless it's exceptional and non -routine law enforcement. That was conveniently and I'm sorry,,I should use the word, that was explicitly left off. Now, the argument of the City and the representatives of the Police Department and my client and I want to thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with the Police Department and their representatives and we met with them in a heavy rain last week and we discussed it. And our positions are as far apart as the sun and as the moon as compared to these two words. They, feel or they say that this ordinance does nothing more than what was in existence prior and that you don't... there was just an ambiguity and we are just wiping it out. I really don't think they believed that, because if you will look in all due respects to the report given from Chief of Police Kenneth Harms to your City Manager dated December:14, 1979, and you read that carefully' you see they really don't mean that. They know there is a difference. They know there is a difference and I will show you where they say it's a difference. In Paragraph Two of page two they say "However, since the wording "exceptional and non -routine" can be misinterpreted to distinguish routine off -duty Police Office service from non -routine off -duty Police service, the wording is omitted because of thi, ambiguity". You read that in conjunction with the fourth sentence, fourth paragraph when they say "If the City Commission... Mayor Ferre: On the same page? Mr. Christie: Same page. In the fourth paragraph and the last sentence "If the City Commission wants to prohibit off -duty Police Officers from working jobs that would compete with private security interests, that the City..,, then that policy should be established by adoption of an appropriate ordinance or resolution". I submit to you it was adopted in the original, in the original ordinance. Now, let me tell you how simple this is. We are asking you to amend your ordinance in every spec except keep in the words that was originally there, the leading or giving some perimeter as to what kind of jobs the off -duty Police Officers are entitled to have. There is no question we want them directing traffic, we want them handling any place that's involved with liquor, we want them... that we should be there. ,Now, to show you where they are even competing more and I'm going to let Mr. Alfonso; tell you of a specific instance.` He specifically gives services to banks, in fact he doesn't compete in any other area of security. The City of Miami has listed as part of their job eighteen different banks that they are servicing.` Now, with that in mind we submit no harm will be done... gl 619 J A N i1;3' Mayor Ferre: Excuse.me, Irwin, but you got to clarify something, otherwise I'm confused. Are they... Are those seventeen banks is it--- ,eighteen-,-- is it traffic that they are doing or security? Mr. Christie: Security. Mayor Ferre: Ok, thank you. Mr. Christie: Now, we will get into even more... how more competitive it is. Now,... I lost my train of thought on that one. Mayor Ferre: You don't have to worry. Mr. Christie: Ok. Mr. Mayor, I want my client Mr. Alfonso to speak at this particular time and then I will come back with just one more thing. Thank you, sir. Mayor Ferre: Irwin, before you go just tell me which is the section specifically... don't tell me about the... Mr. Christie: Ok, the section is if you... I'm only reading from... Mayor words so we Ferre: Yes. Just give me the wording of what paragraph... what are the that you want to instruct on the ordinance and let me.... let us read it understand what it is that you are.proposing. Mr. Christie: Ok, let me... it was one of the ordinance that was given to me by the City Mayor Ferre: Let me understand this right. The ordinance that we have in our packet and the members of the Commission will refer to it under Item 9, ok. Now, it starts "Whereas, Police Officers in Florida are empowered to act within the scope of their employment on a twenty-four hour basis and whereas, off -duty City Police Officers receive authorization from the. Chief of Police to provide exceptional and non -routine law enforcement services to persons or businesses requesting such special service". Mr. Christie: You see, that's left out. Mayor Ferre: The new ordinance reads as follows; "Whereas off -duty City Police Officers receive authorization from the Chief of Police to provide off -duty law enforcement services to persons or businesses requiring such services". Mr. Christie: In other words anybody -can ask (inaudible) Mayor Ferre: Yes. So in other words, what you want is that you want it inserted back into the ordinance we are about to pass, the following three words? 1111111110111M1111.111 Mr. Christie: Yes, two words. Mayor Ferrer Yes. "off -duty Police Officers receiving authorization from the Chief of Police to provide--- and you want inserted--- exceptional:and non -routine... Mr. Christie: That's it, that's the whole ball game. Mayor Ferre: And that's it, those three words. Mr. Christie: That's it, nothing else and you can have all of the rest of your old laws Mayor Ferre: Exceptional and non -routine insert between the words provide and law. Mr. Christie: That's it and does is give some guideline, Mayor Ferre: Counselor, the you want those struck? Mr. Christie: No. Mayor Ferre: In other words, all the rest of the ordinance is fine. And that some'guideline. Vague, but someguideline. words -exist in the proposed ordinance "off -duty" to provide off -duty and then substitute after... gl 6O JAN 1 0 15b0 I mean, add after the words off -duty, exceptional, non -routine law enforcement services. Is that correct? Mr. Christie: The same way it's in the old ordinance. That's exactly. OP Mayor Ferre: So what you wanted is after the word "off -duty" insert "exceptional and non -routine". Mr. Manager, do you have any problems with that? Mr. Grassie: I think I have a responsibility to make sure Mr. Mayor, that you understand what the import of this change is. What I think the petitioner thinks he is doing it to prevent the Police Department from signingup Police Officers for off -duty work on a regular routine basis to service banks at the bank's request, that's what I think he thinks he is accomplishing. What I am suggesting to you is the Police Department has been doing exactly that, they have been making those off -duty assignments for years with the wording in the ordinance that he is asking for. Now, two questions come up, one, if you adopt his language in the ordinance it is entirely possible that based on past practice the Police Department can go ahead and do what they have always been doing and he will think that he accomplished something whereas, he really has not. The second thing that can happen is that he can go away from here and you can go away from here thinking that you have done what he wants and then you are all going to feel that you have been defrauded in some way because it doesn't get accomplished. The second major point that I want to bring to your attention is that basically what the petitioner is asking the City Commission to do is to adopt special legislation which they feel is in their benefit, assuming that they can accomplish what they want and with the language they proposed I'don't think they can, but they are asking you to adopt special benefit legislation which in effect will prevent the banks of this community as well as other_ institutions from choosing off -duty Police Officers instead of Mr. Alfonso's.security service. Basically, what it is doing it is obliging the Police Department to get cut of the business to the benefit of Mr. Alfonso and his colleagues.- Now, that maybe a position that you want to adopt, but what I'm suggesting to you is that there is another part of your community that has an interest in this and .that is the part of the community that in fact, through their own free choice has agreed to pay more for off -duty Police Officers. Now, the third point that I think we need to keep in mind is that what the City is doing with this legislation is. making off -duty Police Officers more expensive to the banks, so that we are lessening the competition of the City with Mr. Alfonso and his similar companies. Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you. Mr. Sullivan, did you. before I ask Mr. Christie to response if he wants to. Does the Police Association want to make a statement? Mr.. Jack Sullivan: Yes, as soon as they finish Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Christie, you want to make your statement... finish your statement now or you want me to reserve some rebuttal time afterward? Mr. Christie: Well, I really don't want to respond.. Well, I would, like to have some rebuttal time as to Mr. Grassie, but I haven't just finished my presentation. If you will just' hear from Mr. Alfonso before we finish our presentation and then I would be glad to answer Mr. Grassie. Mr. Jack Alfonso: For the record my name is Jack Alfonso, I'm the President of Sunshine Security and detective bureau doing business of meanwhile, in Miami. 1 don't know in the future if I can continue doing business. But meanwhile, I am doing business in the City of Miami and 3208. Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, the whole thing came to me when I have negotiated a contract with'a client of mine and he told me "Mr. Alfonso, we think we are not going to renew the contract with you... Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Mr. Alfonso. Could you keep it quiet back there. Alright. Mr. Alfonso: This is the way that came to my attention. He told me "we are not going to continue your service because we are planning to hire the City of Miami Police Department''. At that moment and time I said "I think sir, that you cannot hire the.City of Miami.Police Department, probably what you can do is to hire off -duty Police Officert.that work in the City of. Miami". Let that be known, yes this is the City of.Miami they came with the uniform and their gun and their radio, their car and everything, it's the City that you are going to hire. And then gl G1 I'realized that he's telling me the truth. He is hiring the City of Miami Police Department,which I am proud of the... which in my opinion is the best Police Department in the whole nation and there is no way in the world that any private industry can compete. I cannot compete with the equipment they have, the liability they have, the know how and the expertise. There is no way that I can do anymore business in this town. And when this ordinance became effective, that 1 saw the non -routine basis that gave me hope. I said "well, they cannot be engaged in non -routine service, that doesn't accomplish anything. for the community. They are in the business, it's a business what they are doing. They are engaging in... off -duty business, which what was the telephone that I paid and the electricity and was the headquarters that I paid. And I think this is... if I am part of this community they have an obligation to Protectme. They cannot put me out of business because they want to, they have their jobs. What they are going to do is to put all the people out of jobs that are working now as security guards. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Sullivan, you want to make a statement to the Commission? Mr. Jack Sullivan: Mr. Mayor and members of the Cuuuuission, I'm Jack Sullivan, President of the FOP. ;I would like to address the part about the eighteen banks that were referred to and the majority of those eighteen banks the Police Officer is supplemental to private security. They are there in the event of traffic coming in and out of the drive-ins and etc., and so forth. The... Mayor Ferre: They are not there competing with the private sector on security guaras. Mr. Sullivan: No, sir, I don't think the City of Miami or the Police Department has every been in competition or trying to be in competition with private security. As. far as the legalities, I would like Mr. Klausner to address that. Mr. Klausner: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I'm Robert Klausner Counsel for Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge 20, address isr28 West Flagler Street, Miami. The Fraternal Order of Police agrees with the statement made by the Manager and we agree°with the rationale of the ordinance. Mayor, Ferre: I'm stunned. I can't believe it. This is the first time I have heard that in ten years. Mr. Klausner: I say Mr. Mayor, give me the chance I will be agreeable. We agree with the statement made by the Manager that in essence to include the language with the intent that Mr. Christie has stated it would be to remove a long standing tradition of Policemen working in the community.' And it would also be affecting all.those`people in the community that for years have always had the choice between private security and off -duty Police Officers.. If off -duty Police Officers were not attractive to them for some reason the market place... the free market place would never have supported their need. Essentially, it would be like the hotels coming in to the Commission and saying "we don't ever want you to rent Bayfront Auditorium or the Coconut Grove Exhibition Center for a private art show or something like, because we have empty exhibition facilities and private... and facilities that the taxpayers have paid a great deal of money for would sit idle and that's ridiculous. Mayor Ferre: Counsel, _I only got one question, may I ask it? Mr. Sullivan: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Why, if that wording exist today do you have any problem with it continuing to exist. If you function now, then what the heck is the difference? I mean, it's there now. Mr. Sullivan: You mean the non -routine... Mayor Ferre: No, the way the 'ordinance presently reads it includes the word "exceptional and non -routine", there, now. Mr Sullivan: Yes, I' understand that. l2 JAN ? Q "30 by ./. E • Mayor Ferre: And you have eighteen banks that you are functioning in and if you can function with that statement, then why can't you function with it tomorrow. Mr. Sullivan: Mr. Mayor, we interpret the language as we believe the City has interpreted the language, that "exceptional and non -routine" refers to those things--- everything which is done off -duty. Mayor Ferre: Well, what's the problem then? Mr. Sullivan: We don't want... we want to express to the Commission our . agreement with the Manager, that the intent which the words are believed to hold, we don't want the Commission going away with that impression. Mayor Ferre: Right. On the record Mr. Alfonso or to your attorney whichever wants,... whoever wants to answer. As I understand it you understand that presently there are eighteen banks that are being served by City of Miami, but you understand that? Mr. Christie: Absolutely. Mayor Ferre: And you are not going to go challenge that in court or anything? Mr. Christie: No, sir. Now, we want to live... what I don't understand is we want to live with the ordinance that's been in existence for fifteen to. twenty years just on those words and make all your other changes. Now, that's not very difficult to understand. Mayor Ferre: Ok. And... you got a problem there? Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't know, that's what I want to find out. Mr. Manager, Chief Griffin, -the words "exceptional and non -routine" is that what's being asked? Mr. Grassie: Commissioner and members of the City Commission, the language was in the ordinance before, it was not a problem because it was not challenged and made a problem of. Obviously, with the discussion that is taking place now it will be challenged if it is putin there. Now, not only do you inject an unnecessary ambiguity into the ordinance by putting that language back in, but you also raise the possibility of our having to distinguish between some kinds of off -duty clients and others. For example, a bank with that language in, if it hires off -duty Policemen on a continuing basis could conceivably claim that it does not have to pay the five dollar surcharge. Whereas, a contractor who does this occasionally would have to pay it. In other words we have two different kinds of customers if you wish for that kind of service. I think it is an undesirable and it maybe... the City Attorney for the Police Department tells me, it may include... it may beillegal to include it because it would establish that two classes of customers. Mr. Plummer: Speak to that close to my heart. Mr. Grassie: Well, in your... the thing close to your heart Commissioner would be occasional because it is not on a prescheduled basis. Mr. Plummer: That's for damn sure. Alright, what you are saying, is that the insert of non -insertion of this word does not affect furneral escorts? Mr. Grassie: No. In our estimation it does not... Mr. Plummer: Ok, because you know, we are paying the surcharge. Mayor Ferre: Ok, now that we have settled that momentous... Mr. Sullivan: Mr. Mayor, I would just like to add one additional thing. The inclusion of the words, again, we agree with the Manager that it will. lead to litigation. What it will do is cause the security agencies to challenge on a, case by case basis those off -duty jobs. Mayor Ferre: I got a question on that one. How come it hasn't happened in twenty years? gl (t3 Mr. Sullivan: Because Ordinance 8994 which you are repealing is new. The five dollar surcharge is new. It's an ordinance... it's only a couple of months old. And now you are replacing it with some other language. What's being... we originally had a problem with the first ordinance for insurance reasons. That's being corrected in our mind with this ordinance. But in coming here to say, that, we have no problems and we want to assure the City that when can get together, we want to get together. But by, now adding something back we are saying and we agree with the position taken by the City, that to include those words is going to create an ambiguity in the statute and cause litigation to go forward and this the City that will be the defendant in the suit. And if those suits come forward I think you will find that Fraternal Order of Police will want to come in on the side of the City. We don't want additional litigation and it's a situation Mr. Manager where we are not going to be opposing the City. Mayor Ferre: I hate to tell you this Counselor, but I thinkI would almost welcome that opportunity to have the honor of having the Fraternal order of Police on the same side as the City of Miami on one lawsuit. I think it's almost worth it. It's almost worth it. Mr. Sullivan:' But Mr. Mayor, we would hope that we wouldn't have to put both the members of our organization and the taxpayers of the City to that unnecessary expense. Mayor Ferre: I was being facetious. Jack you...< Mr. Sullivan:' I understand Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Jack, do you want to add anything else to it? Mr. Sullivan: No, sir. " Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Irwin, wipe it up Mr. Christie: Your Honor, if anybody ever wanted to challenge this ordinance had fifteen to twenty years to do it. There is no... We are not looking to bring the lawsuit, there will be no lawsuit. The only way this discussion came up is because you changed the existing ordinance. The` Mayor and the Commission understand it, Obviously, these other people just don't. We are not... this is not special legislation' as the City Manager stated. This was legislation that existed for twenty years. You are just changing these words which we feel are improper. Any further repetition... any further discussion is just repetitious. Mr Grassie: Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Questions? Mr. Grassie: I wonder if whether it would make it easier for the City Commission if we were to suggest accepting the words of--- suggested by Counsel and adding to them the clear explanation that the distinction being made is between on -duty Police work as against off -duty Police work. Mayor Ferre: Mr. manager, if you will follow what I inserted. Let me repeat it and then Chief if you will follow and see if that doesn't do exactly because that's exactly what I had in mind. "From the Chief of Police to provide -- insert exceptional and <non -routine --- and then it says off -duty law enforcement services". Now, doesn't it make that distinction by putting the words off -duty? 6rassie:_ No, it doesn't Mr. Mayor, because what it does is it qualifies oft' -duty. It does not make a distinction between on duty and off -duty. Mayor Ferre: Well, tell me how you wish to make that distinction further. I mean, how do you want to chisel the stone further? Mr. Grassie: Well, I would... I'm sorry the Attorney wants to make a statement. Mayor Ferre: Mr Knox? Mr. Knox: If you insert the extra language you can on the record as a part of the legislative history of this ordinance indicate that is the intention and policy of the City Commission that all off -duty work which is preformed 64 gl JA N 1 0 1930 by the City of Miami Police Officers is indeed exceptionni and non -routine by the definition that occurs in the ordinance. Mayor Ferre: Do you have a problem with that? Mr. Christie: If I understand the City Attorney, if he wants to interpret... if he wants to read that into the ordinance as to your intent, I have no objections to that as long as you change the ordinance as the Mayor has alluded to. If that's what the City Attorney and the City Commission feel, well, that's legislative intent and I don't want to argue that That's fine with me, Ihave no objection.. As long as the ordinance is as it was. as to those--- that demarcation, I have no objection. Mayor Ferre: noes that satisfy everybody? Does anybody have any objections to this now? Do we understand what we are doing now? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I only... not in relation to this. Mr. Grassie, let me ask one further question for delineation. In one of the ordinances seeing as how there is now a number of them circulating, it was a transfer of responsibility on workmen's comp. onto the person hiring the off -duty Policeman? Mr. Grassie: That is a major feature of the ordinance that is in front of you. Mr. Plummer: Alright, now, I me that from this day forward got to provide workmen's comp Mr. Grassie: I am getting a Commissioner. hire off -duty Policemen. Are you telling or the passing of this ordinance that I` have .? You see,,I just... I think it better be... conflicting signal from the Police Chief, Mr. Plummer: Well, you see, I'm getting conflicting signals also. Mr. Grassie: The answer Commissioner is not that you would be obliged by the ordinance to provide it, but that it would be your liability rather than that of the City. In other words, the City is saying that it is not going to assume the liability for an individual who is working for a private party. Mr. Plummer: Well, you see, what was said before we are getting right back to the same old ball game, you are pricing it out of business. Now, at the present time Mr. Grassie and for maybe other members of the Commission who don't realize it, we are paying today a minimum of fifteen dollars` per man for escorts. We are paying two five dollar surcharges for that same man. or twenty-five dollars per man, per escort. You know, in the old days you went from the funeral home to the church to the cemetery, that was one escort, today it's now two. Mayor Ferre: Well, in the old days they were all one in the same thing. Mr. Plummer ''ou know, now if I have got to go back and I have got to provide workmen's comp. and medical insurance for these escorts, what you in effect are doing are probably raising it five to ten dollars more per man. Now, I don't know that to be a fact, but I know it's going to be more expensive. What I think... you know, let me tell you the danger that I see and this is the point and I want to make sure that however this thing is voted out that. it is damn well understood, because the one thing I don't want is that Policeman out there thinking he is protected and he is not. That's the one bottom line I'm going to strive for. That in some way these people who are hiring off -duty Policeman for off -duty jobs must sign a form that they understand not only are they going to pay him X number of dollars, but they have got to provide this service of comp and medical. insurance if that's the case. You know, for example, I got a guy escorting a funeral and I don't provide the workmen's comp. and I don't provide the medical and he gets hurt, you are not going to provide. it. Where is it? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Plummer: Rev. Gibson: Let me ask a question Commissioner. Well, Father, I would like to get an answer because... I want to deal with the same thing. gl Mr. Plummer: Paragraph what, Irwin? Mr. Christie: Eight. Mr. Plummer: Eight? Mayor Ferre: There it is. 800 Item 119. Mr. Christie: Item 9, but Section E of the ordinance. Mayor Ferre: Section 8 of the last.. flip to the last page. It says Section 8 "parties for whom off -duty Police services are rendered shall indemnify the City and insure the off -duty officers for any workmen's compensation benefits that maybe incurred due to injury resulting from such off -duty Police services. Mr. Plummer: I got to pay. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mr. Christie: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: He passes it Well, you see, Maurice now what I'm saying is that in effect it, not me, the consumer has got to pay it. Well, not the consumer,: his family: Whoever that be. You, you, not the consumer. The consumer always pay Irwin. Yes, well, he... you don't think he is going to pay for it. on and tacks on twenty percent or something. Mr. Plummer: Well, look, Mr. Grassie, you know, if this thing goes into effect I'm going to tell you something, I'm going to delay the implementation date until I have assurances that everybody that is using off -duty Policemen realize that fact. First of all I'm going to fight you like hell to eliminate that... but second of all, if I lose there... you know, I just don't want those men out there thinking they got their back covered and they don't: So... Rev. Gibson: J. L.? Mr. Plummer: Yes, Father. Rev. Gibson: You men of the Police Department I wanted to get this reaction. I'm not so sure that you don't have a problem or you have a difference here. If a bank wants off -duty Policemen I cannot in my mind associate off -duty Policemen in a bank with a Police Escort of a funeral. Yuu all -in -the -same ball game. No private -duty officer, I_don't think has ever been given ttie authorityor the right to go and stop traffic or block Streetb. Tou are dealing with a special peculiar animal. Now, what I hear is if you have a bank you want off -duty Policemen, so you make me pay the liability, they use the uniform and all of that. No, no, no. Now, if you... if a person dies and he has to have a Police escort I could understand that within reason that in the usual course of duty I would rather believe, but I be dogged if I think I have to do that about a bank. That's a different set of animals. And note that the private industry is not County with the Police Department. And I would hate to see us in the City with all use Police escort. You can't.imagine how from the church with -a Police escort. Mayor Ferre: Rev. Gibson: Mayor Ferre: competing, certainly not in this want to make further comments. I of this traffic and not be able to quick you could get to the cemetery It's worth twenty-five dollars. Huh? It's worth twenty-five dollars. Rev. Gibson: It's worth twenty-five dollars and I don't think that they ought to be put in the same category as Coconut Grove Bank or any of these other banks who have off -duty Policemen. Mayor Ferre: I agree with it. Rev. Gibson: That's a different set of animals all together. gl 66 JANlV2F39 Mayor Ferre: I agree with it. I would, you know, I'm not in the business yet and I want to say that I accept that premise. I think Father Gibson is completely correct. I think that services of Police motor escort is a completely different... (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Well, absolutely, I happen to think that, that's the case. It's a completely different set of circumstance from the kind of Police services rendered in a stationary job like directing traffic or what have you. I think it's a completely different thing.' Mr. Alfonso: Mr. Mayor, if I maybe, rock concerts, or Jai -alai, football games, that's different. That's a need. Mayor Ferre: I agree. I agree with that premise, I certainly do. Alright, well, where are we because five after four and Plummer has to leave and we got an awful lot of work. So... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, just let me clarify the record. Mr. Mayor, I have to leave here at six, I can be back possibly about 8:30, but I have to be absent between the hours of 6:30 and 8:00. Mayor Ferre: Alright, so therefore, I think we must move along. We have heard all sides of this now what... are there anymore questions from this Commission, if not what is the will of the Commission? Is there a motion on Item #l9 on second reading? It was moved previously by Mr. Plummer and seconded by Mr. Carollo. Mr. Christie: Are you moving without any... Mayor Ferre: No, no, no, I would imagine that somebody will move it. I can't tell you what... and if nobody does I will. Rev. Gibson: Well, I will move the motion with... Mayor Ferre: With, with... are there any exceptions? Rev. Gibson: With the addition of those words. Mr. Lacasa: Second. Mayor Ferre: There is a second to... there is a motion that the ordinance be passed and in the second paragraph, second line after the word "provide" add "exceptioral and non --routine". Mr. Plummer: And non -funeral escorts. Mayor Ferre: And non -funeral escorts. I have no... I have no problems. in that case. Rev. Gibson: I have no problem with it. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox, is that acceptable in legal form? Mr. Grassie: Could I make sure that,I understand your intent while Mr. Knox is reviewing the legality? As I understand that you want to inject in the ordinance the one phrase "exceptional and non -routine" with the legislative understanding that, that is a distinction between on -duty and off -duty? Mayor Ferre: That is correct. Mr. Grassie: And that this qualifies all off -duty work. And the second thing that you want to do is in paragraph 8 to except funeral escorts from the workmen's comp. provision. Mr. Christie: But the legislative intent as,I understood was that was not going to be reflected in the ordinance, it was going to be reflected in the minutes. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. gl Mayor Ferre: That's correct. In other words, what Mr. Grassie is reiterating Mr. Knox's word that in effect in the discussion clarifies a legislative intent, but is not a part and parcel of the wording in the ordinance itself. Is that correct Mr. Knox? Mr. Knox: It maybe more clear if we simply added a definition section whereby we could provide for the exception relating to funeral escort and define that as a routine Police service and function and to define "exceptional and non - routine". Mayor Ferre: You are getting into deep water and I would recommend that we defer this item until you have time to work the language out because I think this is much to important of a thing for us just to jockey around this way. Huh? Mr. Carollo: I move that we defer Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Yes,we are getting into deeper water now all the time. Mr. Grassie: Can we bring this back at the end of your agenda with the wording which I believe that we have just accepted? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Grassie: Today. Mayor Ferrer Go practice law Christie and come back at the end of the day. 0n your way home. It's alright. Mr. Plummer: About 9:30. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: The question now before you is this. Do we defer this until the 24th or do you want to defer this until the end of this day and we will do it today? Mr. Lacasa: It was until the 24th. Mr, Klausner: Mr. Mayor, we would ask:until the 24th so that we canhave an opportunity to sit and hopefully when it comes back before the Commission on the 24th it will be yeta complea everyone will have agreed in it. Will Will be understood exactly what is intented. Mayor Ferre: Christie, do you agree? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: There is a motion by Commissioner Carollo that this be deferred, seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, further discussion, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 80-5. A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCE NO. 8994 WHICH ASSESSES FEES FOR SPECIAL OFF -DUTY POLICE SERVICES, AND SCHEDULING THIS ITEM TO BE HEAR AT THE MEETING OF JANUARY 24TH. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed and ac opted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa.and Mayor Ferre. NOES None. , 3SENT: Mr. Plummer. gl f;8 JAN i .�.v 1 IIIIIIIIIIiU Mr. Alfonso: Mr. Mayor, to conclude I wish to address t the City Manager when he says that what I wanted to get rid of the off -dulliPpolice services to get out of the business. That'snot my intention because . cannot control' that. I don't want to have exclusive rights or service, as always he is wrong. Mayor Ferre: Let me.. just so you understand my position. I am ready and willing to vote for the wording that Irwin Christie has recommended in that second paragraph, but I understand that... so that we don't complicate ourselves legally that we ought to give our Law Department sometime to work out the wording. NOTE: AT THIS TIME THE COMMISSION TOOK A BRIEF RECESS. Mayor Ferre: Do you have a problem with fourteen? Mr. Plummer: Yes, we are going to defer it. SECONDING READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING SECTION I OF ORD. NO. 8719 BY AMENDING THE RAPID TRANSIT STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT TRUST AND AGENCY FUND AND ESTABLISHING TWO NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUND ENTITLED- RAPID TRANIST STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT II AND DOWNTOWN PEOPLE MOVER PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PROGRAM I. Mayor • Ferre: Mr. Plummer: 'Oh, no the Manager recommends, I will vote for that. Mayor Do you have any problems with Item 115, Plummer? Ferre: Mr. Plummer moves Item 15. Are you going to move that one? Mr. Plummer: 15, yes. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Joe, you got any problems with Item 15? Mr. Carollo: Second. Mayor Ferre: Alright, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, is there further discussion on Item 15, call the roll on fifteen. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN' ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION I OF ORDINANCE 8719, ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, THE SUMMARY GRANTS APPROPRIA- TION ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED, BY AMEND- ING THE RAPID TRANSIT STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT (I; 9/1/77-9/30/79) TRUST AND AGENCY FUND AND BY ESTABLISHING TWO NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUNDS ENTITLED: "RAPID' TRANSIT STATION AREA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT II; 10/1/79 - 9/30/80" AND "DOWNTOWN PEOPLE MOVER PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PROGRAM I; 4/18/79-7/18/80" APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE OPERATIONS OF SAID TRUST AND AGENCY FUNDS IN THE AMOUNTS, OF $91,696, $112,000 AND $24,497. RESPECTIVELY; CONTAINING A REPEALER PRO- VISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed`on -Its first reading by title at the meeting of December 27, 1979 was takc'n up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted bythe followinge: g1 0,11' SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9057. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the Public. E OF 22. AUTHORIZING CITY ELATINAWARD CO NITYSECOND VERFRONTRPZARK DESIGN00 FOR THIRD PLACE IN THE COMPETITION. MayorFerre: Alright, we are on Item 4116, Mr. Plummer moves... Mr. Lacasa: Second. Mayor Ferre: Lacasa seconds, further discussion, call the roll on 16. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION' NO. 80-6 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A SECOND CASH PRIZE OF $2,500.00 FOR THIRD PLACE IN THE LATIN COMMUNITY RIVERFRONT PARK DESIGN COMPETITION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMPETITION JURY USING COMMUNITY' DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FUNDS TO FUND, SUCH CASH PRIZE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Mr. Plummer, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Rev. Gibson. 23. AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ACQUIRE TWO APPRAISALS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH FAIR RETURN TO CITY FROM POSSIBLE LEASE OF THE MARINE STADIUM AND TO PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR COMPETITIVE PUBLIC BIDS. Mayor Ferre: Take up Item 17, is there a motion on that? Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer, is there a second? Mr. Lacasa: Second. Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Lacasa, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-7 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACQUIRE TWO INDEPENDENT APPRAISALS, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A FAIR RETURN TO THE CITY FROM A POSSIBLE LEASE BY THE CITY OF THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM, AND TO FURTHER PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR REVIEW BY THE CITY CON MISSION AND SUBSEQUENT SOLICITATION OF COMPETITIVE PUBLIC BIDS FOR THE LEASE OF SAID STADIUM FOR PRIVATE OPERATION OF WATER -ORIENTED RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Mr. Plummer, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Rev. Gibson. 24. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT CO., INC. - CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE CENTER - PHASE II. Mayor Ferre: Is 18 controversial? Anybody have problems with 18? Mr. Plummer: I don't. Mr. Lacasa: Move. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion by Lacasa, seconded by Plummer on 18, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-8 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED B' JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT CO., INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $245,163.74 FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE CENTER- PHASE II SITE WORK (JOB NO. B-3148-E): AND AUTHORIZING FINAL PAYMENT OF $20,678.38. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file. in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Mr. Plummer, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None. ABSENT: Rev. Gibson. gl 71 the resolution was Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. 25. ADOPTING THE FIRST STAGE LAND ACQUISITION PLAN OF THE OVERTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. Mayor Ferre: Is there a problem with 19? Mr. Lacasa: Move. Mayor Ferre: Moved by Lacasa, is there a second? Mr. Plummer: Skip over it, let me come back to that. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Well, then my question is... and don't remember whether 19 relates to tonight or not, if it does we hold it up until this hearing this evening. Mr. Fosmoen: No, it doesn't. Nr. Plummer: It does not. Alright, I will second the motion. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second on 19, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introducedoby Commissioner Lacasa , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-9 A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE OVERTOWN'LAND ACQUISITION PLAN, FIRST STAGE, AS SHOWN ON THE ATTACHED MAP, WHICH ACQUISITION IS IN CONFORMNITY WITH THE OVERTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. ((Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Mr. Plummer, Vice -Mayor NOES: None. ABSENT: aev.' Gibson. ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL STATIONERS, INC. OFFICE FURNITURE. May.ir Ferri.: Take up ltem 2], moved hy... Carollo you want to.. (hAOKCROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferro: That's the stuff we voted on before, it's the resolution. It's the office furniture. Joe, you want to move that? Carollo moves, Lacasa seconds,' further discussion, call the roll. JAN1Qi The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-10 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CENTRAL STATIONERS, INC., FOR FURNISHING OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, FOR MILTI-DEPARTMENTAL USE, ON A CONTRACT BASIS OVER A'PERIOD OF 6 MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF AWARD, AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $400,000, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE 1979-80 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: 'Mr. Carollo, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre. NOES: Mr. Plummer. ABSENT: Rev. Gibson. 27. ACCEPT BID: T & N CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC. - POINT VIEW HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BID "A", (HIGHWAY). Mayor Ferre: 22, Point View Highway Improvement Bid "A", etc., etc. Plummer, you move that? What's your problem? Mr. Plummer: Oh, I just... you know, I want get my little zip zip in here. Yes, I. will move it, but I just want to bring to your attention... Mayor Ferre: How many bids were.there? Mr. Plummer: Seventy-five bids were mailed out. Mayor Ferre: How many people bided? Mr. Plummer: Five. Mayor Ferre: Ok, we are lucky. Mr. Plummer: On five hundred sixty-four thousand dollars worth of Mayor Ferrer A lot of work out there. Is there a second' to Item Mr. Lacasa: I'm going to second it, but I have a question here. Mayor Ferre: What's your question? Mr. Lacasa: This is the South Bayshore Drive... Mayor. Ferre: Point View. Mr. Lncasa: Point View. Mayor Ferrer That stuff that we spent years and years arguing about. Mr. Lacasa: Right. This bid is for the call for the complete work?. Mr. Grimm: No, sir this is not for the complete work? Mr. Lacasa: This is just part of it? gl '73 work. 22? Mr Grimm: Just part of it. Mr. Lacasa: That's what I figured. Mr. Grimm: We took bids on'four parts, the others are too high, we are going to reject those bids and redo it. The total job is a couple of million dollars as I recall. So this five hundred sixty-four thousand dollars., what does it Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lacasa: covers?. Mr. Grimm: Pardon, sir. Mr. Lacasa: What does it covers, this five hundred sixty-four... Mr. Grimm: Just the highway portion. Mr. Lacasa: Just the highway portion? Ok, second. Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion on 22? Mr. Plummer: Alright, understand discussion. Mr. Grassie, I had spoken with Mr. Grimm and I would like to make it as part of the motion and I don't know if this extends around to that portion. I have been approached by the church who have requested ---.Vince, you remember this--- that, that island that runs from the water to Brickell Avenue for the convenience of the condo corner it has been modified to allow parking and they would like that precedent setting to run up to Brickell Avenue. It still leaves a median in the center. Is this... Huh? On 15th Road, right. Their request is that where it was started from, from Bayshore Drive toward Brickell that it be continued all the way up. This doesn't relate to that? Ok, go ahead and I will draw you a picture. Mr. Plummer Alright, further discussion on Item #22, call the roll, please.. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-11 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF T & N CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $499,662, BID "A" (HIGHWAY) OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR POINT VIEW HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT; WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "HIGHWAY G.O. BOND EXPEDITURES" IN THE AMOUNT OF $499,662 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $54,963 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $9,993 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon'being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution passed and adopted by the following vote AYES: - Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner .(Rev.) Theodore R.'Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. gl i '74 on file was J A N 1 0 1980 2. AUTHORIZING PROPER OFFICIALS OF CITY OF MIAMI TO ACCEPT THIRTY-FIVE: WARRANTY DEEDS AND APPROVING RECORDING OF SAID DEEDS IN PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY. Mayor Ferrer Take up Item 23. Item 23 moved by Gibson, Seconded by Lacasa, further discussion, call the roll. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassier Mr. Plummer: Mt. Grassie: Commissioner, s there Manager? I'm sorry,`I was paying attention tothe last... 23? No, this is not... this has nothing to do with the County swap this is a private granting to the City of warranty deeds. Oh, alright, thank you. a second? The following resolution was introduced, by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-12 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPER OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO ACCEPT THIRTY-FIVE (35) WARRANTY DEEDS AND APPROVING THE RECORDING OF SAID DEEDS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of, the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION, A TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING LOCATED AT,176 NORTHWEST NORTH RIVER DRIVE FOR THE SUIT OF $230,000 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. Alright, is there any problem with Item 24? Where is the money coming from? CD. Mr. Plummer: CO.'' Mayor. Ferre: Moved by Lacasa, seconded by Gibson, further discussion on 24, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-13 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THT CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION A TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING COMPRISED OF FOUR EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS AND TWO ROOMS ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND TEN ROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR COMPRISED OF FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE FEET, LOCATED ON A LOT COMPRISED OF FOURTEEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-FIVE SQUARE FEET PLUS DOCK SPACE OF APPROXIMATELY TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET WHICH CONTAINS EIGHTEEN' SLIPS LOCATED AT 176 NORTHWEST NORTH RIVER DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE SUM OF TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND ($230,000)DOLLARS.FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO COVER THE COST OF ACQUISITION OF FEE SIMPLE TO THIS PROPERTY, AND OTHER COST INCIDENTAL TO THE ACQUISITION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was Passed and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 30. AUTHORIZING DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY CARLOS M. TORRES THE SUM OF $15,000 AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY. Mayor Ferre: Take up Item 25. Is there any... the City Attorney recommends, is there any question about this? Is there a motion? Mr. Lacasa: Move. Mayor Ferre: Moved by Lacasa, seconded by Gibson, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO CARLOS M. TORRES, AS PERSONAL REPRE- SENTATIVE OF THE ESTATE OF CARLOS B. TORRES, DECEASED, AND MARIA TORRES, AS WIDOW OF CARLOS B. TORRES, DECEASED, THE SUM OF $15,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY IN- JURY, PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION LIENS, WORK - MENS`COMPENSATION LIENS, CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI AND JAMES LLOYD MABRY, AND UPON EXECUTION OF RELEASE, RELEASING THE CITY FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner J. L.'Plummer , Jr. Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. was passed and 31. APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD. Mayor Ferre: one opening. Mr. Lacasa: Review Board On Item 28, get a piece of paper if you would please, there is And I will accept nominations at this time. I move that Pat Kolski be appointed to the Environmental Preservation Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there other nominations? Are there other nominations? We are now. on the appointments of the Environmental Preservation Review Board. Item 28. The floor is opened for nominations and then we will vote. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask, Pat what Board did you previously serve on? Ms. Kolski: Commissioner, I served on the Zoning Board. Mr. Plummer: And... Mayor Ferre: You haven't served on this Board? Ms Kolski: No, I haven't. Mr. Plummer: Would you back that... would you back that... You have what? Mayor Ferre: as Irecall, Ms. Susan Groves: No, there are two openings. There is one for a member at large and the other for a lay person and they must selected from the four applicants.. Ms. Hirai: The Environmental Preservation. Review Board opening is at large there is an at large seat. Is that right? Would you state your name and address please? Ms. Grove. Yes, Susan Groves, staff. (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, you can't... what ' hearing is you can't appoint her because she hasn't applied. Ms. Groves: Yes, that's correct. You must select from one of the four member... Mr. Plummer: I m Well, don't stand there and let us do something illegal. Ms. Groves: Excuse me, you must select from one of the members or four people who have applied, that's Mr. Labelle... Mr. Plummer: I see five names. Oh, no. Ms. Groves: At the very bottom. Mr. Lacasa: Is there any reason why the City Commission cannot originate the appointment of somebody who has not applied? ' � JAN 1 0 1983 gl Mayor Ferre: No, I think the question is this, is there any reason Mr. Knox... I'm sorry, Mr. Alvarez, the question is a legal question and it is to you. Is there any reason why the City of Miami Commission cannot select people from the Zoning Board, the Planning Board or the Environmental Preservation Board to fill at large seats in either area? Mr. Alvarez: Mr. Mayor, the only requirements that I am aware of are contained in the Code and Charter as to residency and as long as the requirements contained in the Charter and Code are complied with I don't know of any deadline for applications. Mr.. Fosmoen: There is one other requirement as I understand it and that is that Members must be recommended by civic organizations or the groups they represent and that is in Chapter 64 of the Code. Mayor Ferre: Well, thatis not to my question and if you want to address my question, I mean, we will take that up if you want next, but my question is very specific. Is there any reason why this Commission cannot select people that are applying for vacancies in the Zoning Board and vote for them in the Planning. Board or from the Planning Board and vote for them in the Environmental Preservation Board in the at large or lay person position. Is there any law that precludes... Mr. Fosmoen: It's the same answer Mr. Mayor, they have... it's the same answer to serve on the Environmental Preservation Board you have to be recommended by a civic organization. Mayor Ferre: I see. Well, I thought that the Northeast Improvement was recommending, but I... That's not the case, is that what you are telling me?` Mr Fosmoen: It wasn't recommended for the Environmental Preservation Board. Mayor Ferre: I see. Well, what's the will of this Commission then? Rev. Gibson: Well, then what does that mean? Mayor Ferre: I will do whatever the will of the majority is, what do you want to do? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Yes? Mr. Grassie: If it simplifies... if it facilitates what you want to get accomplished in anyway, you know, you can start this process all over again, you can open it up again, but if you are going to go with this round, then you probably have to stick with the names that you have got. Mr. Lacasa: Ok, then I'm going to move that the appointments to the Environmental Preservation Review Board be deferred and that we open... and reopen the of application. Mayor Ferre: Alright, well.. Alright, but before we do that, before we do that let me understand this properly. Would you define for me what the differences between a lay person and a member at large? Ms. Groves: A member at large can be chosen from any one of the-- I believe it's five categories that you will see listed over on the right hand side. It could be recommended by A.I.A. (American Institute of Architects) landscape architects. Mayor Ferre: I see. Ms. Groves: Right, from that listing over there. Mayor Ferre I see. And a member at large is just anybody... Ms. Groves: Yes, from anyone of those groups. Mayor Ferre: • .. that would... Alright, so in other words in effect, what we ought to do iswe ought to recognized the lay person, ok? I mean, we could vote for the lay person and then defer the member at large... because I think it's silly to defer everything just because of one individual. Ms. Groves: Ok, well, the... the member at large could also be a lay person if you so choose. /V. JAN 3. . gl Mayor Ferre: Well, that's what I'm saying. That's the whole point. But then I think the lay person... In other words, what you are saying is lay person and. a member at large are one in the same thing? Ms. Groves: They could be or the member at large could be chosen from eone of the other five categories. In this` instance all of these people are lay people. Mayor Ferre: Let me be very specific, if .this Commission wants to appoint Pat Kolski to the Environmental Preservation Review Board, would she be appointed as lay person or as a member at large? Ms. Groves: She would be... she could be either one, but she would have to be recommended by a neighborhood civic organization. Mayor Ferre: Fine, ok. Well, that's her problem, not ours.: In the meantime, then she 'is not eligible is the word I'm trying to get. The people that are eligible and my recommendation is that we fill one and we defer the filling of a second position and reopen this up, ok. Does that accomplish what everybody I think, is trying to accomplish around here? Mr. Lacasa: Yes, it would. Mayor Ferre: Ok, so we are now opened for. nominations for the position of one of the two positions and you have nine candidates as ,I read them. Is that correct? Mr.. Lacasa: No, only four Mr. Plummer: No, you got four. Mr. Lacasa: Only four, it's the bottom section. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. I beg your pardon. We only have four candidates at this time. I stand corrected. Ok? Alright, are there motions with rea gnv Sue ards to these four? They are Dominick Labella, Lee Taylor, Douglas Lyons McConnell. Mr. Plummer: Give me the ethnic breakdown of the present members. Mayor Ferre: Ethnic breakdown? Well,Henry Hispanic. Mr. Plummer: He is obviously what? Mr. Lacasa: Spanish. Mayor Ferre: Spanish, you know I. I mean he is an Anglo. Steven Davis is an Environmentalist and I would assume that, that's a qualification all by himself, Julio Fernandez I would assume is a woman and I would assume that she is Latin. Is that correct? Alexander, Jr. obviously is Mr. Plummer: Or married to one. Mayor Ferrer Or married to one, is that acceptable? Alright, now... Mr. Plummer: Is there a Black on there? Are any of the applicants Black? Ok. If I don't use the Mayor's terminology or second guess, I don't see any Latins in the applicants. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. Well, is Julia Fernandez Latin? She is Latin. She is the only Latin and then we have four male caucasians otherwise known as Anglo S<:i'on non -hispanic, non -black. Does that cover it? Ok, now the women. 'vow, and the applicants are Dominick Labella... I assume that none of these are Oriental, none of them are Black, none of them are Latin and there is one woman, Sue McConnell.. Is that right Lee Taylor is not a woman? Ok. Oh, I'm sorry. 'Mr. Plummer: It says Mr Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sorry. Well,'what else have we got here? The floor is still opened. I'm about to close the floor because we spent ten minutes going in a circle. Is there anything else? Mr.... gl 79 JAN C ',�Rn (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Hey, listen, I would recommend... -I don't mean to hurt anybody's feelings but you better look at your packet and see who is reconunending who, don't you think. And now that I'm saying that, I don't have Mine. I can't, place my, finger on this, do you have them please? Mr. Grassie, could you supply the Commission... I -have lost the backup, I have read:it, -but I have lost it. Can you give ,us the backup on Labelia, Taylor,Lyons and Mc Connell? Mr. Grassier We will try and get some extra copies Mr. Mayor. Mr. Plummer: I move the name of Sue McConnell. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Ms. Groves: Who is she recommended by? - Tigertail Association.` Well, Lee Taylor is recommended by the Coconut Grove.... Chamber... Mayor Ferre: Here it is... Lee Taylor was recommended by the Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce. Is that right? Dominick Labella was recommended by the. Tigertail Association. Ms. Groves: Mayor Ferre: No. Oh, Sue McConnell. Ms. Groves: Sue McConnell. Mayor Ferre: Alright. Who is Dominick Labelia recommended by? Ms. Groves: Pat Kolski and -I believe he is with the Morningside? Mayor Ferre Yes, I remember the letter from Pat Kolski. Ms. Kolski: Yes, he is in the landscaping business and he lives in the Northeast area. Mayor. Ferre: Alright, Douglas Lyons i5 recommenaea by whom? Ms. Groves: He was recommended by Steve Zack who is one of the people who came out. Mayor Ferre: Outgoing, yes, I remember now. Alright,. Mr. Lacasa: I would like to nominate Lee Taylor. Mayor Ferre: Alright] there is a nomination for Lee Taylor and there is a nomination for Sue McConnell, are there further nominations? Lee Taylor and Sue McConnell, are there further nominations? Alright, nominations are closed unless I hear otherwise and we have two candidates for this one position. Would you write down the name of the person and pass it down? Oh, has everybody voted? I forgot to put my name on my ballot, do you have... Ok, go ahead and announce the ballot. - - - Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Yes? Ms. Hirai: There are two votes for Lee Taylor and three votes for Sue McConnell. Y1)or Ferre: Announce for the record who voted for who so we all know. Ms. Hirai Commissioner Carollo, Rev. Gibson and Mr. Plummer voted for Sue McConnell and... Mayor. Ferre: Ok, Sue McConnell is the new member from the Environmental Preservation Review Board, ok. Is there a motion to defer the: second? Mr. Lacasa: I move. Rev, Gibson: Second. Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second to defer and reopen for the submittal of new names... call the roll, please. 80 gl The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 80-15 A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD AND REOPENING THE PERIOD FRO SUBMISSION OF NEW NAMES TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None DISCUSSION CONTINUES: Mr. Fosmoen; Mr. Mayor, can we ask that, that be opened for ten days so that you can act at your next Commission Meeting? Mayor Ferre: Yes,. Yes, that will be fine. Is that acceptable to everybody? Any objections? Alright, we are now... Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, we need a motion for the appointment of the individual. who was elected. Mayor Ferre Yes, there is a motion moved by Gibson, seconded by... Mr. Plummer: Second. Mayor Ferre: . on the appointment of Sue McConnell to the Environmental Preservation Review Board, further discussion, call the.roll.' The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-16 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING SUE McCONNELL AS • LAY CITIZEN MEMBER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on on file in the Office of the City Clerk) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote; AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre none. APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD. Mayor Ferre: We are now on the appointment of the Planning Advisory Board. The You have the names before you... Planning. What is this a resolution... Yes, gl 81 JAN1 013a7 appointing three new members of the Miami Planning Advisory Board. I thought there was four. Mr. Clark: The fourth one is the second section. Mayor Ferret Oh, and the second... oh, I see, the fourth one is the replacement of Luis Martinez. Is that correct? Mr. Plummer: But you can't do that one today. Mayor Ferre: Why not? Mr. Plummer: Because as advertised. Mr. Perez: It has been properly advertised. Mr. Plummer: sir you are wrong, look at the agenda. Ms. Hirai: Yes, sir we have. Mr. Plummer: Huh? Excuse me. Ms. Hirai: We did advertise.. Mr. Plummer: You better read the agenda. Ms. Hirai: There is a mistake in the agenda, but the item was duly advertised by our office. Mayor Ferre: Well, there is no problem then. Alright, the floor is opened for nominations. Rev. Gibson: Is that the Planning Board? Mr. Lacasa: I nominate Grace Rockafellar. Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. Alright, there is a motion for Grace Rockafellar. Now, we are going to vote one at a time. Plummer, Gibson, Carollo. Mr. Plummer: I nominate Mr. Jose Correa. Mayor Ferre: Alright, this is one at a time. Mr.,Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry, what do you mean. Mayor Ferre There are four positions opened. Mr.. Plummer: Right. Mayor Ferre: I will accept nominations and we will vote on one item at a time. One position so that we see how we are filling them. You may want to balance between women and men and Latins, Black and what have you. Ok? Mr. Plummer: Well, what are you voting "yes" o Mayor Ferre: No, I am accepting nominations for the first of the four openings. The first nomination that was made was Grace Rockafellar and I'm asking for further nominations. Mr. Carollo: Arsenio Milian. ;Mayor Ferre: Tell me again. Mr. Carollo: I nominate Arsenio Milian. Mayor Ferre: Arsenio Milian. We are going to vote. (BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir and that we can see who is going on and how we balance it. Somebody may want to talk about it.. Alright, there are two nominees up until. now, Grace Rockafellar and Arsenio Milian. g1 82 J1)0 Mr. Plummer: I nominate Correa. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr.... where are we? Mr. Plummer: Jose Correa. Mayor Ferre: Jose Correa. Ok, are there... Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, may I get an understanding? Are we voting for four? Mayor Ferre: No, we are voting for one. Rev. Gibson: Well, you see Plummer that's the... we are confused here, Mayor Ferre: I know. Let me go over this again, there are four vacancies. I think the most expeditious and fairest way to do this is to do one at a time and that... because that way you can see exactly who you are voting for and you ,. can see how to balance this and rather than to do it there have been times when we vote on this thing we went for fourandete get all confused and aall lhoftt vote e sudden you know, all kinds of people. . Ju on one at a time so we know exactly what we are doing on each. one. There is one position opened, you will have three more opportunities to vote. This is the first vote. Mr. Plummer: But if you only have a total of four nominations doesn't that take care of. it? Mayor Ferre: Oh, you want to do it that way. Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm saying if you... as it's going right now I haven't even heard the fourth nomination. (BACKGROUND COMMENTS INAUDIBLE) Mayor Ferre: And the Zoning Board list too. (BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: Yes. For the Zoning Board. And for Planning. Or either. (BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Mr. Plummer: Well, so far you have got Rockefeller nominated, you've got Milian nominated and you have got Correa nominated, right? Those are the three that have been nominated. Mayor Ferre: We've got Grace Rockefeller, Arsenio Milian, and Jose Correa. If we do it this way. Plummer what we are going to end up getting into in my opinion is a process which we have done... which sometimes has been done which we haven't done in the last six years and that is that each... you are saying that each person should nominate one person, right, but there are only four position opened You follow me? If there were five positions opened then, I don't think you would have any problem on this. I think the better way of doing this and.I recommend that we do it this way, is that we go one by one and that we can deliberate and balance it as we go along. Now, that is the Chair's position, if you want to change it then you make your motion as to how you want to do it. Otherwise,... t1r. Plummer: Well, in other words what you are saying is we are just going to keep renominating the same people aren't we? Mayor Ferre: Probably. Because I will tell you, if Grace Rockafellar,doesn't win in the first round or say Correa doesn't win in the first round I'm sure you are going to renominate them. Alright, now are there further nominations, for this first position? Are there further nominations for this first vacancy out of four on the Planning Board? .There are now Grace Rockafellar, Arsenio Milian. and Jose Correa. I am now going to close on this first position. Mr. Plummer: Father wanted... Father wanterested in Mr. Jordan.' JAN 101 gl Mayor Ferre: He will have the right to do that whenever he wants J. L. Father are we clear on the procedure on this? Rev. Gibson: Yes, Mr.,Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Now, does anybody have any questions on this? (BACKGROUND COMMENTS INAUDIBLE) Mayor Ferre: One out of three, ok and then you can nominate Milian again if you Want, ok. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Yes. Rev. Gibson: Let me say what I think Commissioner Plummer is worryingabout, here is what. If there are three different nominees- the person who gets the highest vote will be the elected person. Mayor Ferre: Yes, Rev. Gibson: What the:Mayor is saying we go back again and nominate, that's what is happening. And:then the person who gets the highest number -in that second go around that person is elected. Mr. Lacasa: Seat by seat. Rev. Gibson: Yes. Mayor Ferre: And I will accept any... it's opened you can nominate anybody you want, ok. Alright, is there further discussion? Mr. Plummer: So we have three names now? Mayor Ferre: You have three for the one position now, you can renominate after and the three are Grace Rockafellar, Arsenio Milian and Jose Correa Alright, we are ready to vote, please vote. (BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Mr: Plummer: Yes, but, hey, this puts me in a position of nominating somebody and voting against Grace, that's stupid. Mayor Ferre: Then don't nominate anybody. Mr. Plummer: Well,. I would rather withdraw his name at this time. Mayor Ferre: There are only two Mr. Plummer: I nominate somebody I don't vote for, I don't understand that. Do you understand it? Don't you answer that. Mayor Ferre: Are the votes all in. Ms. Hirai: No, I haven't seen one. candidates. Mayor Ferre: Well, he has one. We are waiting on Plummer. Mr. Plummer: Rockafellar. iaiyor Ferre: Well, put it down on a piece of paper. Mr. Plummer: I did, rock of Gibraltor. Mayor Ferre: It's r-o-c-... Alright, read out the..'. BALLOT ONE: Ms. Hirai: The results of the first ballot. Commissioner Carollo, Vice -Mayor Lacasa, Commissioner Plummer and Mayor Ferre cast their votes for:. Rev. Gibson cast his vote for: gl 84 Grace Rockafellar (4) Jose Correa (1) JAN I 0 BALLOT TWO: Ms. Hirai: The results of the second ballot. Rev. Gibson and Commissioner Plummer cast their votes for • JoEse Corea Vice-Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their votes Ars uardo Calil (2)() Commissioner Carollo cast his vote for: BALLOT THREE: Ms. Hirai: The results of the third ballot. Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their votes for: Commissioner Carollo and Commissioner Plummer cast their votes for: Eduardo Calil (3) Jose Correa (2) Mayor Ferre: Now we've got two position filled. Now we are up to the third one. Mr. Plummer: I nominate Mr. Correa. Mayor Ferre: Alright, we have Mr. Arsenio Milian n and Mr. Jose,CCorrea. votlright, lif please... Anybody else? Are there any other , BALLOT FOUR: Ms. Hirai: The results of the fourth ballot. Commissioner Carollo, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their Arsenio Milian votes for: Commissioner Plummer and Rev. Gibson cast their votes for: Mr. Plummer: I nominate Mr. Correa. Mayor Ferre: Alright, we have... this is the last seat open in the Planning Board and the nominees are Mr. Jose Correa. Are there any others? Mr. Lacasa: I nominate Mr. Manes. Mayor Ferre: Aaron Manes. Are there any other nominees at this time? Alright, would you please vote. BALLOT FIVE: Ms. Hirai: The results of the fifth ballot. Commissioner Carollo, Rev. Gibson and Commissioner Plummer their votes for: Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their votes for: (3) Jose Correa (2) cast Jose Correa Aaron Manes Mayor Ferre: The nominees are and is there a motion that they be... (3) (2) Mr. Plummer: So move. Mayor Ferre: .. that the four applicants appointed to the planning Advisory Board be Grace.Rockafellar, Jose Correa, Mr. Milian and who wasi the last one? Mr., Plummer: Mayor Ferre: and Haronded, The foll its adoption: Correa. Grace: Roc:kafellar, Cor.rea,_Milian and Calif, Eduardo Calil. Moved. further discussion, call the roll. .owing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who roved • RESOLUTION NO.. 80-17 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING 3 MEMBERS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD TO 85 JAN1 Q.19 1111i111UIU gl SERVE FULL TERMS THEREON, FURTHER APPOINTING ONE INDIVIDUAL TO FILL LOUIS MARTINEZ' UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 1981. (Here follows body of resolution,. omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk). Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner (Rev) Theodore R. Gibson Commissioner.J:iL. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. 33. APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO THE ZONING ADVISORY BOARD. Mayor Ferre: Alright, now we are on Item #29, is it? Mr. Grassie: 30, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry 30, the Zoning Advisory Board. Now, you have before you the list of the Zoning Advisory Board. The incumbents are. Alicia Baro, Gloria. Basila, Steve Carner, Willie Gort, Wellington Rolle as an alternate. There are three vacancies. Is that correct? And.... Alright, we are now open for nominations. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I would like to nominate Wellington Rolle. Mr. Plummer: Transfer him over. Mayor Ferrer I think in Wellington Rolle's case the issue is that he is now an alternate and`I think it's a -question as to whether Or not he should become a full fledged member and since he has been serving... do the alternates get paid the same as the members whether, or not they go to the meetings or not? Mr. Perez: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Well, they have to attend the meetings, because... Mayor Ferre: Oh, they attend the meetings anyway. Mr. Perez: That is correct. Mayor Ferree I see, ok, I got it. Alright,... Mr. Plummer: I will not make a nomination. I concur Mr. Rolle has served well and he has served in the form of an alternate and I feel he should have the opportunity to be a permanent member of that board. • ;;..;,,L. Ferre: Alright, are there any other nominees for, Wellington for the position? Mr. Lacasa: I join Mr. Plummer in what he said, I feel that Mr. Rolle Mayor Ferre: Alright, Father.Gibson moves that Wellington Rolle be appointed to fill one of the vacancies of the Zoning Board and J. L. Plummer seconds, is there further discussion, call the roll on that. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Plummer and was passed by a unanimous vote. gl 86 Mayor Ferre: Now, we have three positions left, one for alternate... Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, no, we have Mayor Ferre: Why? two positions left. Mr. Perez: Because we have to go back and readvertise for the alternate. (BACKGROUND COMMENTS INAUDIBLE) Mr. Perez: Two positions. Mayor Ferre: Huh? Mr. Perez: We have two positions. Rev. Gibson: Two vacancies? Mr. Perez: That is correct Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: I nominate Mr. Cabezas. Mr. Lacasa: I nominate Mr. Cruz. Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, now I will write them down carefully now. Mr. Cabezas, ok. Alright, who is the other nominee? Mr. Lacasa: Cruz. Mayor Ferre: Garcia, Cruz. Are there any other nominees at this time? Rev. Gibson: Let me` ask, we will now elect two? Mayor Ferre: Yes. Rev. Gibson: We have elected one so we have got to elect... Mr. Carollo: Two more. Mayor Ferre: We've got left at this time. One is two more. So this is just for the one of the two vacancies Rev. Gibson: Read the names Mayor Ferre,: Cabezas, Garcia and Cruz. Cabezas, Garcia and Cruz. Rev. Gibson: I would like to nominate. Jack Alfonso. Mayor Ferre: We have Jack Alfonso in nomination. There are now four nominees, any further nominees, if not, get your ballot and please vote. BALLOT ONE: Ms. Hirai: The results of the first ballot. Commissioner Plummer cast his vote for: Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their votes for: Commissioner Carollo cast his vote for: Rev. Gibson cast his vote for:, Mayor Ferre: Well, that means that nobody got a majority. their vote, hearing none... Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question, then we have one other Mayor. Ferre: Yes, we have... Rafael Cabezas Ricardo Cruz Humberto Garcia Jack Alfonso Anybody want to change opening is that correct? Mr. Plummer: I will change my vote. .Not change it, I will vote differently on the second go around, but I... well, wait a minute, let me see. Wait a minute, I got to figure a strategy on that one, hold' on. Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Cruz got two votes? gl 87 JAN101960 Mayor Ferre: What? Who? Ms. Hirai: Mr. Cruz got two votes, Mr. Lacasa's and your vote. Mayor Ferre: I realize that, but you need three votes... and five... when there is five people you need three to have a majority. So the question is Mr. Cruz got Lacasa's vote and he got my vote, Alright, Mr. Alfonso got Gi.bson's vote, Mr. Garcia got Carollo's vote and Mr. Cabezas got Plummer's vote, so nobody has a majority. Now, unless somebody changes their vote, we have to vote all again. Mr. Plummer: Well, unless somebody is going to change his vote there is no reason to vote all over again. Mr. Lacasa: Right. Rev. Gibson: Plummer who did you nominate? Mr. Plummer: I put up Mr. Cabezas. Rev. Gibson: Who did you put up... Mr. Plummer He put up Mr. Cruz. (BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Rev. Gibson: Alright, I will tell you what I'm willing to do. Mr. Plummer: I ...ill go with Cruz, I mean I planned on going with Cruz. Rev. Gibson: I will go on with you. Mr. Plummer: But if you do that, then we are going to have one hellacious fight on the second go around and it's deadlocked now. Welcome to a no win situation. Mayor Ferre: That's always been the case. Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's true. Are we voting again? Mayor Terre: Well, I'm waiting for it to see if anybody wants to... Mr. Plummer I changed. I call for the second voting. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Plummer has changed his vote to be given to the Clerk so we have a clear cut. Mr. Plummer: But now comes the fun. Mayor Ferre: Alright, we have one last candidate for now and I might point out that as you all now Willie'Gort has accepted a position with the Federal Government and therefore he will be tendering his resignation, so we will in effect have... Mr. Plummer: So in effect, what you are speaking of is then today is far from being raver.. After this we then will have one full appointment and one alternate to appoint after this. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: Well, that makes it better, e're getting there. Mayor Ferre Beyond today in my opinion within the'next couple of months you will more appointments, one for an alternate and one for a full time, ok: C;Ito l io: I nominate Mr. Garcia. ,yot F(Tre: Alright, we now have Mr. Garcia in nomination. Mr. Plummer: Well, wait ..i minute, now on the second go around? Mayor Fi.rre: No, sir t.h1s is the last position open. The two nominees... Mr. Plummer: T haven't heard the election of the first. 88 J'., n };1 Mayor Ferre: and you just Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: The first one was Mr. Wellington Rolle, the second one was Mr. Cruz changed your vote. But I didn't hear it announced. Would you please anounce the vote the second Ms. Hirai: At the time you changed your vote Mr. Plummer, with three votes. Mr. Plummer: Yes, oh, alright. time around. Mr. Ricardo Cruz ends up Ms. Hirai: Your vote, Mr. Lacasa's and Mayor Ferrets. Mayor Ferre: We are now... the Chair now opens up nominees for the last seat that we are voting upon today and Mr. Carollo nominates Mr Garcia. Mr. Lacasa: I nominate Mr. Albo. Mayor Ferre: Ok, we now have two nominees, one is Garcia and the other one is Mr. Albo. Are there further nominees? Rev. Gibson: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: I nominate Mr. Jack Alfonso. Alright, we have Mr. Jack Alfonso as a nominee I now nominate Mr. Cabezas. Mayor Ferre: We now have Mr. Cabezas as a nominee. We now have four Garcia, Albo, Alfonso and Cabezas. BALLOT TWO: Ms. Hirai: The results of the second ballot. Commissioner Carollo cast his vote for: Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre cast their votes for: Rev. Gibson cast his vote for: Commissioner Plummer cast his vote for: Are there any other nominees? Would you please vote. Humberto Garcia Lazaro Albo Jack Alfonso Rafael Cabezas Mayor Ferre: Alright, so here is the situation, we have Albo with two votes,. Garcia with one vote and Alfonso with one vote: Is that correct? Ms. Hirai: And Cabezas with one vote. Mayor Ferre: And Cabezas with one vote. Alright, any want to put it off? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Ferre: Ok, is there further discussion on this? Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I recommend that we defer. Mr. Plummer: I second the motion. discussion on any... you Mayor Ferre: There is a motion that the... that this vacancy be... that the nomination be postponed until the meeting of the 24th, is that correct? Is that the consensus? ir. 2ium4ner: That's what I understood. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask if it is possible that... so with the possibility of completing it on the 24th. I was unaware, Mr. Gort as you might recall is my appointment to the Zoning Board and I'm not aware that he has accepted a post with the Federal Government in which he would then have to resign. I think Mr. Gort should be asked if he has accepted this post and must resign, that in fact he surrender a resignation so hopefully on the 24th we can complete this matter. I think it's only in order, it's only proper. 89 JAN1 0 '4at,,.1 gl Mayor Ferre: So that what you are saying... Now, how long will it take to advertise for the vacancy as in the alternate role. Mr. Plummer: No longer than it will for the Environmental Preservation Review Board which is ten days. Ms. Hirai: Do not believe there is time to advertise. Mr. Plummer: Before the 24th? Ms. Hirai: That is correct. Mayor Ferre: There is not enough time? Well is there or isn't there? Ms. Hirai: We have to begin the advertising... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Natty, how can you do it for the. Environmental Preservation Review Board, but you can't do it for Zoning? Ms. Hirai: By the Code we begin a month before and five days previous to coming here it must be in your hands and supplied to all those individuals or citizens that come to review the same., Mr. Perez Right, they must be opened for review five days prior to... Mr. Plummer: Well, then' you will have to put it off until the first meeting in February. Mayor Ferre: Alright, the item is... there is a motion to defer this until first meeting in February, at that time it is the expectation that there will be in effect, two vacancies and an alternateso there will -.be three positions to fill. Is that correct Is there:further discussion, call the roll on the deferral. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved its adoption MOTION NO. 80-18 A MOTION DEFERRING THE APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE ZONING BOARD AND SCHEDULING SAND FOR THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 12, 1980 Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: NOES: None. Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre Mayor Ferre Excuse me, now there' is a motion by Mr. Lacasa, seconded by Father Gibson that the following two members be appointed the the Zoning Board. No, we have already. appointed one, so there is only one left Mr. Ricardo Cruz. Is that correct? Mr. Lacasa: That's correct. Mayor Ferre Alright, is there further discussion on that motion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-19 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING 2 MEMBERS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI ZONING BOARD TO SERVE FULL TERM THEREON.. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City, Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo 90 gl J A N Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson ViceMayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Rev. Gibson: Mayor Ferrer. You got two women. out of a seven man board. Mr. Plummer: You got two women on there Father. Let me ask a question Mr. Mayor, I'm looking to see about the women. Well, you've got Alicia Baro and Gloria Basila Rev. Gibson: Ok, alright... Mr. Plummer: And now we have... what? One Black definite. We have two Latin... three Latins, but Mr. Gort is coming off. Mayor Ferrer We have now elected one Black and one Latin. Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: two women and Right. That leaves...that means that there are three Latins, one Black, one Anglo Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a suggestion. I don't know how the rest of this Commission feels and this is not in defiance of your ruling. I got to believe there is a better way of an election than this process that we have just used. I would like to ask the Administration to try to come up with a better recommended way of doing this than what we have just done, because maybe it's just me and if that's the case they will express it by their vote, but I Just don't feel comfortablewith this system. I really don't. To me it's a bad system and I would like to see the Administration come up with a couple of alternatives. Mayor Ferrer The Chair will accept any recommendations and we will listen to them and we will put them to a vote. In my opinion the simplest most Democratic and most open way of voting is to select one at a time and just openly vote for them, you know and then as you go along you balance it. Mr. Plummer: Maurice, the system we used before I might recall to your attention was what I thought was going to be used today where we nominate all of the names those who got a majority of three votes and each Commissioner had threevotes were elected and the rest would revote, but you were able to close nominations and to me that was a simpler way of doing it than to continuously badger with an individual name. You know, for example, with Grace as I used before. Here I am faced with nominating someone, Grace's name, and here I don't even vote for the man that I nominated. Now, God willing, he made it. Mayor Ferrer Evidently, Mr. Gort does not have to resign. So what we have is two vacancies, one on the regular and one as an alternate, ok. And we will vote, upon. that on February the 1st, ok. Mr. Plummer: Fine. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? 34 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD., TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKING PROVISIONS OF THE LEASE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD. (CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER Mayor Ferre: We are now... we are going to.take up Mr. Worsham who has been sitting there patiently and I see Mr. Stuart Simon who represents him as... Alright, now Mr. Simon let me first all of welcome you to these chambers and I'm sure are no stranger to us here,.but let me since this is the first time I have seen you since you are wearing a new hat or a new bow tie or however we want to place it. I want to congratulate you for having selected one of the very, very finest law firms in the state and I want to congratulate them for being so lucky as. to have such a qualified man as a new partner, so my congratulations to both you 91 JAN101930 and the firm and welcome. Mr. Simon: I'm sure it won't be Commissioner Plummer and I... Mayor Ferret Congratulations to you sir. Mr. Simon: Mayor Ferre is what you Mr. Grassie relatively enter into Thank you, very much Mr. Mayor. . Alright, now... we are now going to take up Item # 20, which I assume are here for. Is that correct Mr. Manager : The first item of two that go together Mr. Mayor, 20 and 20a is a straight forward parking agreement and authorization for the City to that kind of an agreement. Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, not to enter into the agreement. you for negotiation. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. Mr. Grassie: No, we are talking about the parking agreement in.this case Commissioner. This is the first item, Item 20. Mr. Simon: Separate 20 and 20a Commissioner Plummer, they are two separate items. Mr Plummer: Alright, let me ask this question.parking. Grssielle thishis swctoan entermplinto ement an agreement with Miami Center to implement into an .agreement when you yet don't know what your scope of work is? In other words, here is what I am saying... Mr. Grassie: Could I put the question a little differently Commissioner? Mr. Plummer: You usually do. Yes. The developer has an agreement with his financing party. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Plummer: Right. Mr. Grassie.: .. that requires the developer to have` certain parking provisions, in conjunction•witb the main building. Now, what this e ithoses it allows llo sthe City Ments that to ;is'ree with the developer that the City will pto core out of the financing. Mr. Plummer: 24.9 percent, is that correct? This is to send it to Mr. Grassie: That's one of the agreements that the City but basically the financing arm is asking the developer with regard to the manner in which the parking is going this is doing is authorizing the City to agree to those new here that you have not -discussed in the past. This that. has made with the developer, togive certain guarantees to be operated and what things. There is nothing simply allows us to formalize Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Grassie, let me tell you where my problem is. And Mr. Simon you have not been here before, ok and I'm a lone voice in the wilderness as usual which doesn't bother me. My concern is two fold, first that the money of the grant is not in the bank, that's number one. Am I correct Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: It is not in the bank, that is correct. " t t ,,mTrer : It has been awarded. C,rassie: Well, the UDAG has been awarded to the City if_that's what you are .akin,, of, hut !t is not in the bank in the sense that we have ,fulfilled the contract ,jth the federal government and received the money. Mr. Plunmrcr: That's my first problem. My problem has been take and they are going to build a World Trade Center and I along, that if you are going to have a World Trade Center it hundred space parking garage, ok. Now, what I'm saying here is that you are making an agreement with these people as,to when you don't know exactly yet what you are talking about.. know there is nothing like money in the bank. that they are going. to have said all the way must be a fifteen is in my hesitation financing in other Am I out of base, you g1 92 �►.I. f L! PIi! Mr. Grassie: Yes, there are two things that we are looking at Commissioner, one is basically the ability of the City of agree with the developer, that the parking garage is going to be operated in such away that it will not be a detriment to the hotel and to the Conference Center. Mr. Plummer: I understand that. Mr. Grassie: Now, that's all that we are doing in this particular item. Now, in the next item we are getting to the question that you are now raising which has to do. with the financing of and the size of the parking structure. Those two will be addressed in the next item, but in this item really all we are talking about is a relatively mundane management agreement or agreement to agree with the parking authority on the operation of that garage. Mr. Plummer: Ok. Mayor Ferre: Are there further questions on Item #20, if not, is there a motion? Mr. Lacasa: Move. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Lacasa moves Item 20, is there a second? Gibson seconds Item 20, is there further discussion, call the roll, please. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-20 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY, MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD., TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKING PROVISIONS OF THE LEASE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, LTD., DATED SEPTEMBER 13, 1979, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF'MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER, RESPECTING THE CONFERENCE CENTER PARKING GARAGE; AND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI DATED APRIL, 1977; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI OFF-STREET PARKING AUTHORITY FOR THE, MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITY OF SAIL) PARKING GARAGE, SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THE LEASE AND AGREEMENT, THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI AGREEMENT AND OF THE AFORESAID PARKING AGREEMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on, file;. in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: NOES: None. Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer,` Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 35. AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITII MIAMI CEN1LR ASSOCIATES, INC., FOR TURNKEY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING GARAGE. Mayor Ferre: Take up 20a, authorizing the manager to negotiate and execute a contract with Miami Center Associates. Alright, any questions? Mr. Grassie: Can we ask -Mr. Simon to introduce this Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Alright. Mr. SimonI think it's important to realize... Sl 93 JAN i 0 'Gage Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's give Mr.... wait a minute. Mr. Simon: I think it's important to -realize that with regard to 20a, that we are not finalizing anything. The only thing that we are doing through the resolution is that you are directing or authorizing your very capable Manager to negotiate a contract. Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion? Mr. Simon: That contract will eventually come back, will be raise all kinds of questions... Mr. Plummer: Yes, I... Stew I long as it comes back here for have no problem sending it to final agreement, I will move Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there a second to Item 20a? Mr. Lacasa: Second Mr. Plummer: But when you come back you ain't going to get off this easy, unless... put before, you negotiate, it. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-21 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATIES, INC., FOR THE TURNKEY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING GARAGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ATTACHED SCOPE OF THE WORK TO BE. PERFORMED, WHICH IS NOT TO EXCEED 15 MILLION DOLLARS, AND PROVIDING FOR APPROPRIATE COST SAFEGUARDS: USING FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED FROM THE PARKING GARAGE/WORLD TRADE CENTER URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION GRANT (UDAG), CONVENTION CENTER -PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BOND FUNDS AND CERTAIN OTHER FUNDS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENGAGE PROFESSIONAL INDEPENDENT QUANTITY SURVEYORS TO DETERMINE APPROXIMATE COSTS FOR THE DESIGN AND CON- STRUCTION OF SAID GARAGE, WITH THE FUNDS FOR SAID SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN EXISTING CONFERENCE CONVENTION CENTER FUND; THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS UNDER SAID AGREEMENTS BEING SUBJECT TO AND CONTINGENT UPON THE AVAILABILITY OF SAID UDAG FUNDS AND CONVENTION CENTER -PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BOND FUNDS; SAID AGREE- MENTS BEING SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: NOES: None. Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R: Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre who Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else that we can... Mr. Simon: No, I just wanted to tell Commissioner Plummer that we hope to be back very shortly. Mr. Plummer: Well, it's just my hope, you know'... and I think everybody is in agreement really. Alright, number one, that the money is in the bank and two is fifteen hundred spaces, because I want to tell you it's going to be disaster without them. 94 A!' gl Mayor Ferre: Mr. Worsham do you have a feeling that it's easier to deal with five people than with seven? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: It depends on which side of the bay you are on. 36. FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING 1900 BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM AND PROMOTION. Mayor Ferre: Now, have we done Item #14? Mr. Grassie: 14 is the only one that you have not done for the morning. Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion on Item 14? Mr. Plummer: 14, yes I move to defer. Mayor Ferre: Don't do it, Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, as you shall learn to love those twenty-three employees you shall learn to love three hundred thousand dollars. 1 don't know how long it's going to take you to understand that, but that's the only control Mr. Grassie, I have is budget. Mr. Grassie: Commissioner as soon as you point out the tree it grows on, you know... Mr. Plummer: The same tree that buys furniture and gives awards for architectural competitions. Mayor Ferrer There is a motion that Item 14 be deferred for what reason Mr. Plummer? Mr. Plummer: Until Mr Grassie has put it up to the level in which I feel is sufficient. Mayor Ferre: You mean, you want a higher level? Mr. Plummer: Three hundred thousand which is to remind the Mayor that were going to try and get more money from Metropolitan/Dade County, two percent seeing as how we had a member on that Board with clout. We will find out the meaning of the word "Clout" Mayor Ferre: Alright, you got a problem with that because you don't think that we can go to three hundred thousand and in my opinion J. L., is look, let's get a hundred thousand and if you want to go for two hundred more, that's fine, we can discuss it, but let's not hold up. Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me, Maurice that was in addition to the three. Mayor Ferre: What's that? Mr. Plummer: That's an addition to the three. Mayor Ferre: We have three hundred already that we approved in the budget. Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. No. Mr. Grassie: No, we started out... Could I review this with you briefly? We started out at budget time splitting this operate between trade and commerce which you heard about this morning where'we have two hundred thousand dollar, an additional hundred fifty thousand dollars in the particular department. Now, with this budget modification we are increasing that by a hundred thousand dollars,. I thought to comply with the general request of.the City Commission, so that now we are going from a hundred fifty to two hundred fifty thousand. Now, what Commissioner Plummer I think is asking for is another fifty. gl 95 JAN 1 a Iq,K (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: I'm on Item #14 which is the 1980 budget for the Department of Tourism and Promotion and they are... and he wants to add a hundred thousand dollars and that's what I understand we need to do. Mr. Grassie, I don't understand this term. Aren't we on Item 14? Isn't that the Tourist budget? Doesn't that pay for the secretaries? Mr. Grassie: No, sir. No, that's already done. Mr. Plummer: That's right. Mr. Grassie: That's already done. Mayor Ferre: Well, what does this do then? Mr. Plummer: This keeps the department as a department and doesn't let it be blown out of proportion. Mr. Grassie: Well, what we are doing... Mr. Plummer: Look, let me go back again, I didn't want to go through this again, I thought I had been through it enough. I'm beginning to wonder. Mr. Mayor, my five minutes spiel I will cut to three. There is nobody going to.,.F .ather, what was the terminology? "No, cat is going to ring our bell like our own caty, alright. I'm saving that Metropolitan/Dade County are nice guys, but when it comes to them or us it's going to be them. Rev. Gibson: You can say that again. Mr. Plummer: Amen, hallelujah. Mayor Ferrel And you want to add... Mr-. Plummer: I want that department to be at a level of funding of three hundred thousand dollars. It is my belief with that kind of`funding'we can continue and he is offering two fifty-five, he is only forty-five off. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, in other words, he is at two fifty-five Mr. Plummer: He is two fifty-five and I'm at three. Mayor Ferre: And you want to go to three hundred? Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you just make your Mr. Plummer: Well, I will be glad to do it that way if that's the way you want. Mayor Ferre: Yes, I got no problems. Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that the level o£.... well, wait.a minute, how is the wording to the... Mayor Ferre: It is very simple Mr. Plummer, you take the same ordinance, ok, and you change... Mr. Plummer: What is it 14? Mayor Ferre: Yes. If you look at ordinance... if you look at Item 1t14,... +,.. Plummer: 1 amend the budget to be.three hundred thousand dollars. i:i,nr Verrc: No, no, no, may I? Mr. Plummer: Please motion.. Mayor Ferre: ttk. Whereas said ordinance includes an amount of a hundred fifty-four for the office of the City Manager to fund the Office of Public Information and whereas; the Office of Public Information is two fifty-five, two twenty-five and whereas t MW JAN 0 an additional fund In the amountof a hundred thousand five hundred four, you amend that to an additional amount of one thousand forty... hundred forty-five thousand five hundred four. Is that correct? Mr. Plummer: Three hundred thousand dollar funding level. Mayor Ferret No, no, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Plummer this is... he is asking for a hundred thousand dollars additional, ok. Mr. Plummer: Forty-five. Mayor Ferre: I don't read that then. Mr. Plummer: Hey, Maurice,you should... Mr. Grassie: The current budget as it is shown in this ordinance Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission, the one that we are proposing is two hundred fifty-five thousand two hundred twenty-five dollars and he is.. Mr. Plummer: And I'm saying three. Maurice let me remind you.. Mayor Ferre: And precisely what I'm saying. In other words, that if it goes up to three hundred thousand dollars rather than two fifty-five, two twenty-five, then you have to increase it by a hundred forty-five five hundred four, is that correct? Mr. Grassie: That is correct. Mayor Ferre: Ok, well that's what I'm saying. Mr. Grassie: Hundred forty-four. Mayor Ferre: So that the new ordinance... Mr. Grassie: No, I'm sorry, you have to increase the figure that we are proposing by roughly forty-five thousand dollars. Mr. Plummer: That's what I said. Mayor Ferre: And that's what I'm saying too. Look, let me read.it. "An ordinance amending Section 1 of Ordinance No. 9000 adopted October 17, 1979, the annual appropriations ordinance for the fiscal year ending September 30, 1980 is amended by appropriating for speclal programs and accounts severance pay account an amount of a hundred forty-five thousand five hundred four dollars to be appropriated into the Office of the City Manager Office of Public Information for the purpose of continuing tourism and promotion activities for the City of Miami until the end of fiscal year 1980; containing a repealer provision and a severability clause and dispensing with the requirement of reading the same on two separate days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission". Now, in addition on the third paragraph you would change the two fifty, two twenty-five to three hundred thousand. In the fourth paragraph you would change... Mr. Plummer: No, I'm sorry Maurice, this is not acceptable to me.' Without delineating to me what you hope to accomplish with the Office of Public Information, that can be very broad and does not cover the scope of Publicity and Tourism. I want it... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer,;; the purpose of this is the annual appropriations ordinance, that's all 'you -are dealing with. Mr. Plummer: No, it's... plus it...'plus ... no, sir I'm sorry you are wrong. Mayor Ferre: Well, tell me where we... tell me how. Mr. Plummer: Alright, sir because it is then... this funding is going to the Office of Public Information, that is a new office. That's a new office and that can be very, very broad. I don't know what that's proposed to cover. There is a difference Jetween public information and publicity and tourism. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, the Publicity and Tourism Office of the City of Miami no longer exists. Mr. Plummer: No, you are wrong, it still exist. Mayor Ferre: Does it technically exist? 97 JAN101980 gl Mr. Plummer: Yes. No, sir it does not... it's not in the budget. Well, that doesn't make any difference, when was it abolished? When you adopted the budget. You mean you can abolish a department without action of this Commission? By not funding it, of course. No, you don't fund it. It's not funded. Do you know of a better way to abolish a department? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer: No, but I know a few more that I'm not going to fund next year. Mayor 'Ferre: is... Mr. Plummer: Well, that may be, but the point is that what we are voting upon now Well, this is not acceptable to me. I still move for it to be deferred. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion for deferral, none... Is there a second? Is there a second? Rev. Gibson: Why don't you all get together. Mayor Ferre: Well, hearing none that motion fails. Is there a motion for approval with the addition of forty-five thousand dollars? Rev. Gibson: Well, let me ask, what. (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie, would you come back at subsequent time and clarify the fact that we are going to have an Information and Publicity Office, that it is the full intention of the Administration and I think it's certainly of this Commission artment. my God, we have said it enough times ---that we intend to have a Publicity p Mr. Plummer: That's all I want to hear, but that's not what I read. Mr. Grassie: If it would simply change the name of Mayor Ferre: Yes. is there a second, hearing help anybody or it would make you feel better we can it to Office of Publicity if that makes you feel better. Mr. Plummer: Office of Publicity and Citizen Information, Mayor Ferre: Do that Mr. Grassie. Mr. Grassie: It's done. Mr. Plummer: I can buy that in the three hundred thousand dollar level, I can... no question. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, will you move it Mr. Plummer: Mr. Lacasa: S Mayor Ferre: bo changed to eN e rybody? Mr. Plummer: Funded at the three hundred thousand dollar level. Mayor Ferre: Funded at the three hundred thousand dollar level Mr. Grassie: Under discussion.Mr. Mayor,... Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. Mr. Grassie: We have one other paragraph that we have to change and that's the last one on the first page that has to do with the source of money. We need to know where the forty-five thousand dollars is coming from. can buy that. e I move it that way. cond. Alright, Mr. Plummer moves, Mr. Lacasa seconds, the name shall now Publicity and Public Information Department, is that acceptable to • E gx 98 JAN I Mayor Ferre: From the same place that the hundred thousand dollars is coming from. Mr. Grassie:. Well, the hundred thousand dollars. Mr. Plummer: Four less desks, twenty-seven chairs, three partitions, two lamps, fourteen pencil sharpeners... Mr. Grassie: ... is coming out of Commissioner Plummer's budget in part and the rest of it is coming out of the severance pay account. Now, we are making an estimate that we can reduce it by that amount. Mayor Ferre: Doing what? Mr. Grassier We are making an estimate that we could reduce severance pay by that amount, but we can't do that forever. We really are, you know, at the point where we don't have very much leeway. Now, one of the things that Commissioner Plummer suggested was that we ask the County for fifty thousand dollars out of... Mr. Plummer: No, a hundred. Ask them for a hundred. Mr. Grassie: Well, ask for a hundred, but... Mr. Plummer: But nothing, ask for a hundred, be quiet. Mayor Ferre: Alright, where are we then Mr. Manager? Mr. Grassie: If we use that as a source of income, as a projected revenue then, of course, we are going to have to hold back our expenses until we get the County to agree... Mr. Plummer: No, that's not the case, that would be in excess. It would be three plus, if we get anything because I don't have any anticipation that we are,going to get it. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: Hey, if we get it then I will refund it back. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Well, you are going to have to do other things in the short run. pretty soon anyway. We have a motion and a second... (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: I call the question on the motion on the floor. Mayor Ferre: The question has been called, call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9000, ADOPTED OCTOBER 17, 1979, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR' ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, AS AMENDED, BY APPRO- PRIATING FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS SEVERANCE PAY ACCOUNT' AN AMOUNT OF $145,279 TO BE APPROPRIATED 'INTO THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER - OFFICE OF PUBLICITY AND PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR THE PURPOSE nF CONTINUING TOURISM AND PROMOTION ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI UNTIL THE END OF FY '80; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABIL1TY CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. Was introduced by. Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter, dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission- 99 gl. AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, adopted said ordinance by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9058. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission. and copies were available to the public. Mr. Louis Matusow: Mr.. Mayor, may I ask a question of the Commission concerning that last motion. My name is Louis Matusow, I'm an employee of the City of Miami for six and a half years in the... whatever department it is now called, Publicity... what you just passed, ok. I would like the City Manager for your edification and for mine to name the employees--- he should have a list--- that will be retained in that department. I am one of the people that received a lay-off notice and with that additional funding in theory, in theory my job and two others jobs that were proposed to be laid off should be kept in that department and I would like a edification of that now. Well, I certainly have no objections to passing the question onto the is his responsibility to answer it if he wants to and we... I can't answer ,it. Mayor Ferre: Manager. It force him to Mr. Matusow: Mayor Ferre: That's fine, I would like to ask the Manager. Well, you have a question posed to you... Mr. Grassie: Well, I. didn't hear the whole question because I was determine whether we had a source of money Mr. Mayor, but... Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie:. Mr. Plummer: The question is that he has been laid off and the He is on the lay off list. He is proposed to be laid off.. trying to question is... Mayor Ferre: He is proposed to be laid off and the question is now that you have more money are you going to lay him off, that's really what he wants to know and if not, who are the people that are going to be... Mr. Grassie: Well, since I'm... we have just established the new figure for the budget. The first thing that we have to do is to translate that new figure in the rc,s;'-ions and see what it will cover. So,... and what we will do, of course, is to ,dvise affected employees as quickly as possible so that they won't have to be .oncerned, Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Grassie I think in all fairness not only to Mr. Matusow and the rest of the employees who are in that department, but I think also to this Commission. We have now established by this last motion perimeters and I think it would behoove you to come back to'this Commission at the next meeting and delineate in the form of a budget how you feel that money would best be spent in behalf of tourism of the City of Miami and I would also want you to give me the scope of what you hope to accomplish. Now, I have had some problems in explaining to people that the position of a Commissioner, I cannot and willnot be placed in a position of protecting jobs. That is not my position, I cannot do that 1 mignt want to, out I'm fully aware that I can't, but I think that we have established the budget and we have gl 100 JAN 1 0 1960 set the perimeter in the budget and I would like to see the Manager come back at the next meeting and tell us what you feel can be accomplished with what personnel without, you know, naming names... maybe you would like to, f'ne and I think hopeful.ly you will, but I think this Commission should be aware that you said you could do this for the two fifty-five, here is what we can do for the three. and I'think that would be a report that would be well in keeping. Rev. Gibson: J. L., let me ask... Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Mr. Matusow: Might I also ask the City Manager when he does prepare that report. for you to check with the Director of Human Resources since there are few, if any positions... I have been referred to several positions within the City of Miami, none of which of course, obviously fall in the publicity writer category or any similar category and are at much lower than the ninety percent pay figure that was mentioned this morning. Now, it would just probably save yourself some time it would not hurt to check with the Director of Human Resources as to what other jobs are opened, so when you do make up that list you are aware of my position as well as in other publicity writers positions in that department. Mr. Grassie: Mt. Mayor, we need first and second reading on this Item. Mayor Ferre: Alright, on second reading, call the roll. 37. APPOINTING COMI'IISSIONER JOE CAROLLO TO THE',1IAMI CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT BOARD. I move Item 33. Mr. Lacasa: Seconded. Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second on Item 33 to appoint Mr. Carollo to the Miami City General Employees' Retirement Board, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-22 A RESOLUTION APPOINTING COMMISSIONER JOE CAROLLO TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD OF THE MIAmmI CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT PLAN. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Joe Carollo, Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson ViceMayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre MM MM MN 38. ITEMS 31. AND 32 DEFERRED TO WORKSHOP SESSION ON JANUARY 22, 1980 AT 3:00 P.M. Mayor Ferre: Now, we are on Item 31, 32 and 32a. AstI remember p31 we e eere... on Mr. Grassie, 31 and 32 were the things we were going to answerthisafternooncommission meeting and the question to all of you that you were going is, is the afternoon of January 22nd acceptable? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mr. Grassie: 3 o'clock? 3 o'clock? Mr. Plummer: Mr.' Mayor, is it possible that instead of just getting one... because I was going to propose if possible the changing of the date of February the 14th Mr. Grassie. I would like to attend representing this City the Board of Directors meeting of the Florida League of Cities in Tallahassee hi atiich sdonethe 14th and 15th. So if it was possible if you could suggest Mayor Ferre: Let's do one at a time. Mr. Grassier Could we move that to the 12th? Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, please, let's do one at a time. Does anybody have any problems with January 22? Mr. Plummer: I don't. Mayor Ferre:. Joe? Father? Armando? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor. Ferre: The 22. Mr. Lacasa: That's alright with me. Mayor. Ferre: Everybody is ok on the 22nd. Alright, now Mr. Plummer wants to move February 14th to what day? Mr. Plummer: The Manager is recommending the 12th, I have no problem with that. Mayor Ferre: The 12th. Anybody have a problem? Mr. Lacasa: What is the... January 22nd at what time. (BACKGROUND COTQiENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Grassie: At 3 o'clock. Mr. Lacasa; 3 o'clock. Mr. Grassie: 3 o'clock. Mr. Plummer: And that is a special call, right? Mayor Ferre: What's that? Crassie: No, no it's not a call of the City Commission. It's not an official session of the City Commission, it would be a workshop session. Mr. Plummer: Oh, alright. Rev. Gibson: That's on the 12th? Mayor Ferre: No, it's on the 22nd. Mr. Plummer: No, 22nd. Mayor. Ferre: January 22nd. gl 102 39. CHANGE MEETING DATE FROM FEBRUARY 14TH TO FEBRUARY 12TH. Mayor Ferre: Now, there is a motion. Mr. Plummer moves and Mr. Carollo seconds that the meeting to be held February 14th will now be held... scheduled for February 12th, further discussion, call the roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO. 80-23 was introduced by Commissioner Plummerand seconded by Commissioner Commissioner Carollo was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. (SEE LATER FORMALIZED: RESOLUTION NO. 80-29). • 40. CHANGE MEETING DATE FROM MARCH 13TH TO MARCH 18TI-i. �.y Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lacasa moves and Mr. Carollo seconds that the March 13th meeting be held on March 18th, further discussion, call the roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO. 80-24 was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Carollo was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. (SEE LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION NO. 80-28) . Mayor Ferre: We are now 32a, Mr. Knox, you were going to work on the wording. Mr. Knox: They, are being xeroxed now. We have prepared five alternative resolutions i your consideration. One, is essentially the resolution that was presented this morning where we asked the Metropolitan Dade County Commission to levy a one mill Lax to be used for extraordinary Police services and transportation. The second is that we ask Metropolitan Dade County to levy a one mill tax which is one half mill for extraordinary, Police.. services and one half mill for transportation. The third alternative is and we have asked Metropolitan Dade County to levy a one half mill tax for extraordinary Police services in the Downtown area or the DDA area. The fourth alternative is and we have asked Metropolitan Dade County to levy a one half mill tax for transportation in the Downtown Development Area, plus Brickell. And I have forgotten what the fifth alternative is. gl JAN 1 0 1983 Mayor Ferre: Is that in writing? Do you have a resolution? Mr. Knox: They are.in thexerox machine. Mr. Mayor, the fifth alternative is that we ask Metropolitan Dade County to levy a one half milltax for transportation with the remaining one half mill being used in the discretion of the City of Miami but specifically related to extraordinary Police services and transportation. Mayor Ferre:That's what I would like to do, that last one. Mr. Knox: They will bring them out right now, they just finished xeroxing them. Mayor Ferre: Are they xeroxing? Well, while they are xeroxing... 41. AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED TO STATE OF FLORIDA FOR CITY'S INTERAMA PROPERTY. Mayor Ferre: Well, while we are waiting for typing of this we also have a proposed Interama Marina... is that the only thing we have left pending Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you explain that. Mr. Grassie: I believe that all of the members of the City Commission have finally received information on the application that we are making to the State for the lease of land up at Interama. In that process 'Mr. Gissendanner is putting this on Cabinet's agenda in Tallahassee. He has asked for a general resolution of support from the City Commission and basically that's what this is. It endorses the concept of our attempting to get this, lease of land so that the City can have the benefit of that extra income out of the Interama Project. Mayor Ferre: Well, Joe, just for the record because I got a phone call, I think it was from Eric Reider or Bill Gjebre,'I don't which one of them called me up in Vermont. Somebody called me from the press and asked me whether I knew anything about some marina up in Interama that the City was going to build and I had never heard of this before. Mayor Ferre: And that Clark Merrill had said--- I think it was EricYWriter... it that Clark Merrill had said that I knew all about it. Now, I don't know what you are talking about, I' knew nothing about it and I have never heard of it until that phone call from the Miami Herald reporter. Now, the point that I... subsequent to was... Eric it was you wasn't it? Were you the one that called me? Yes. --- and i that`I received in the mail up n Vermont a copy of an explanation which I then read and was acquainted with and then I talked` to you about it and;I asked you since Eric was asking me that this was something that--- I forget whether he said it was Ronnie Fine or Murry Durbin -.or somebody who wasinvolved who wanted to build a Marina. Now, I have heard nothing of that and as I understand this is not anything dealing with either Murry Dubin or Ronnie Fine or anybody is there? . c ;1sic : The City has no deals with any outside parties, as a matter of fact i; has not been discussed: with anybody and as far as I know the parties outside of tlu(; lty are not even aware of it. This is simply carrying out an'indication 'from the City Commission that you. wanted additional compensation for Interama, but it is something which has not been reviewed with, discussed with or certainly has no participation from any outside parties. Mayor Ferre: Let me see if I understand this right. What we are doing is,'we are saying "Ok, State, we will accept the eight million dollars", but in addition to that we are going to also accept the Bay bottom so that in effect we can, go out and subcontract after a public bid process, is that correct? Where anybody he wants to bid this will be able to bid it to build a marina up in that part of the town and the purpose is for us to get additional compensation. the gl 104 Mr. Plummer: That doesn't... you see, something has turned around here. Now, 1 don't know where in the hell it is. It was my understanding Mr. Grassie, we sent to you to negotiate out with FIU the concern which I had was that they.,. the State Legislature stipulated what that money could be used for and that was what you were to negotiate out. It was my contention that they were going to put stipulations on what we could use the money for, we should like wise impose stipulations as to what they could use the property for. Now, suddenly out of no where...you know, I like the Mayor, Eric didn't have to pay as much to talk with me, comes this thing of_a marina outside of the Citylimits of the. City of Miami and I just, don't understand where that latitude was given by this Commission. Mr. Grassie: Well, Commissioner, strictly speaking in terms of latitude. I have not only the latitude, but the responsibility to seek any kind of a new initiative which will represent an advantage for the City of Miami. Now, with regard to the language that the State legislature put... Mr. Plummer:` What? Hey, hey, wait a minute. Go ahead. Mr. Grassie: The language the State Legislature put in it's appropriations document there is no one really at the State level or any place short of the Legislature who can negotiate that away. The only way,that you could get that change is to have the Legislature change that language. Now, what we... Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand that, but... Mr. Grassie: In view of that impossibility what we are trying to do is accomplish what I think is your objective and that is to get more fair compensation for the City and we are presenting this to you as an alternative. If you said that you do not like this alternative we will simply forget it, but it'san option that we are presenting to you and we think that it's in the best interest of the City. Mr. Lacasa: Are you contemplating in this plan any kind of financial exposure on the part of the City by way of any kind of investment or any kind of issue of bonds or whatever? Mr. Grassie: No, we may... we will invest some staff time to get a revenue bond issue to the point of going to the market, but aside from that we do not intend to make an investment, no. Mr. Lacasa: A bond issue? Mr. Grassie: That's correct. Mr`. Lacasa: Guaranteed by the City? Mr. Grassie: No, guaranteed by the revenues of the development for the project of the marina. You know,`I have to say in all candor I consider this to be a relatively innovative way of accomplishing something which meets your objective of getting you some money, it doesn't cost the State anything and it helps Florida International University and Miami Dade Junior College in the process. Now, there are very few projects that have so little cost and some many benefits and what we are simply asking you to do is to say that you agree that it makes sense for the City of Miami that we ask the State to cooperate with us, that's all. Mayor Ferre: I don't see that you got anything to lose on this thing." A resolution authorizing and directing the Manager to execute -- is that it?--- a special warranty deed to the State of Florida for the City's Interama property, accept from the State of Florida on behalf of the City of Miami a warrant for eight trillion dollars in payment thereof, execute an agreement acknowledging the limitations of use of said funds and abrogating the March 15, 1973 agreement between the City of Miami and the Interamerican Center Authority; further authorizing and directing the City Manager e:.ecute a sublease with the Florida State Board of Regents for 14.9 acres of the above_ mentioned property for the purpose of building a Marina. And approving, confirming and ratifying the City Manager's application to the State Department of Natural Resources for the leasing of 23.6 acres of State Bay bottom land for a marina". Now, as I understand it this is not going to cost the City any money and this is going to be a public bid process and we are going to be serving the general marine industry here by creating more boating slips. Is that correct? Mr. Grassie: That's correct Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferrel, Is there a motion to that effect? gl Mr. Lacasa: I move that. Mayor Ferrer There is a motion by Lacasa, is there a second? Seconded by Gibson, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-25 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE CITY'S INTERAMA PROPERTY, ACCEPT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI A WARRANT FOR $8.0 MILLION IN PAYMENT THEREOF, EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT ACKNOWLEDGING THE LIMITATIONS OF USE OF SAID FUNDS AND ABROGATING THE MARCH 15, 1973 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE INTERAMERICAN CENTER AUTHORITY; FURTHER AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SUBLEASE WITH THE FLORIDA STATE BOARD OF REGENTS FOR 14.9 ACRES OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A MARINA: AND APPROVING CONFIRMING AND RATIFYING THE CITY MANAGERS APPLI- CATION TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES FOR THE LEASING OF 23.6 ACRES OF STATE BAY BOTTOM LAND FOR A MARINA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor. Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.; NOES: Mr. Plummer. ABSENT: None. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Plummer has a question here and that question is if we are getting into business outside of the City... my understanding is that we are getting into no business outside of the City, my understanding is that this is. simply a device through which we the City are going to get additional compensation without, number one, any investment on the part of the City. Number two, any. financial exposure or guarantees of any kind on the part of the City and. Number three, without any involvement of City personnel other than whatever might, be needed in order to expedite the process of bidding and subleasing to whoeverg? private entrepreneur becomes the successful bidder. Is that my Is that correct? Mr. Grassier Your understanding is correct in all of those cases. Now, you may in the future decide to do things differently than that, but certainly what, you have described is a reasonable way of handling that project and there is no reason why the City should not do it that way. Mr. Lacasa: Ok, because... Mr. Grassie: In addition to that I should say that we wouldbe less in business. up there than we are in the golf course business out in Miami Springs. Mr. Lacasa: Ok, because one thing that I want to have clear and for the record is that I for one oppose any venture in which the City of Miami become involved outside of the City limits which from my stand point of view is totally and completely alien' to the purpose of the City.... of the municipal government. The purpose of this municipal government is to serve the residents of the City of Miami and' not to serve anyone outside the geographical boundaries. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but that's not the case in this. 106 Mr.'Lacasa: That is why... I know that, thatisnot the case for this and that is why I made the motion. But what I am doing is clarifying this for the record because`I am on record opposing the idea of the City of Miami getting into any venture whatsoever which might mean efforts on the part of the City to serve people that live outside the boundaries of the City of Miami.` So since this is not the -case and I have very well clarified this from the Manager, then is why I am movingthis one. • 42. AUTHORIZING AND URGING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF DADE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI. Y: Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox are we ready to take up 32a? Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferre: Alright, for the purposes of clarification since 1 was the original author of this, I will pass the gavel on to the Vice -Mayor and I will make the following motion and if you have it, it's 32b revised in your packet of things and it reads as follows;... Mr. Plummer: What are you talking about "B"? Mayor Ferret 32a and this is Item "B" as revised. "A resolutionof the City Commission of the City of Miami authorizing and urging the Board of County Commissioners of Dade County, Florida, to establish a special taxing district for the express purpose of, providing additional Police protection and financial assistance to develop a modern transportation system within said district boundaries as hereinafter described and to levy an additional ad valorem tax not exceeding one mill on all real and personal property in said district; requesting that the question of the establishment of such district and levying of such tax be submitted to referendum at the March 1980 Election; acknowledging that Dade County is primarily responsible for the operation of the Downtown People Mover in the City". Now, the substance of this is on page 2, Section 2 "The Board of County Commissioners of Dade County,' Florida, is hereby authorized and urged to levy an additional ad valorem tax not exceeding one mill on all real and personal property situated in the above special taxing district for the above purposes: one half a mill to be used for transportation as the County Commissionmay determine and one halfa mill to be used for either for increased police protection or transportation as the Commission of the City M'iami determine". Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, isn't there a flaw there? Isn't that as the County wishes in conjunction with the Downtown People Mover? Transportation is Rapid Transit as well as the Downtown People Mover. Mayor Ferre: Yes, but... Mr. Plummer: Our commitment is in the Downtown People Mover, not in the Rapid Transit and if they have the discretion for transportation... Mayor Ferre: Fine, I accept that. Mr. Plummer:' Well, isn't that where our commitment is? .1.;y.r Ferre: Yes, yes, I have no problem... I want... I have no problems 1,:avingit very loose, but I have no problems tightening it up if you feel that's better Mr. Plummer: Let cover our commitment. Mayor Ferre: I agree J. L., I have no problems with that. Now, the wording would then be "one half -a mill to be used for transportation in the DPM project... in the DPM... how would you word it? DPM, what? In the DPM System as the County Commission may determine", ok? I accept that any other changes? Now, where is the definition that the Brickell Avenue Commercial area is involved in gl 1.'ft)17 may this. Mr. Knox: That's what we are going to work out now. Mr. Fosmoen: We will have to work out the legal description from this basis. Mr. Plummer: Hey, let me ask you something Dick, I had an idea that maybe I'm way off the wall. What would be... I haven't heard it discussed. Would there be any problem Maurice--- hold that map up and I think it might be a damn good idea, increase the size of the DDA. Mayor Ferre: What? Mr. Plummer: Increase the size of the DDA. Mayor Ferre: J. L., that is such a difficult problem you would ,be... now we have a member the DDA staff here and we also have a member of wait a minute, just for a second--- business group. Do you have any with any of this so far? You do have a problem. Come up and say it record. Mr. Emilio Calleja: My name is Emilio Calleja, I'm the Executive Director of the Downtown Miami Business Association... Ms. Hirai: Excuse me, would you come closer to the mike and state your name? Mr. Calleja: Yes, my name is Emilio Calleja, I'm the Executive Director, of the Downtown Miami Business Association. The problem I have. Mayor Ferre as you just stated it, half would go towards the Downtown People Mover at the discretion of the County, the other half is split again for People Mover and for Police, so as I see it it could go three quarters to the People Mover and only one quarter to the Police. Mayor Ferre: That's correct. Mr. Calleja: That wasn't the original proposal to us. Mayor. Ferre: My proposal has always been that a half a mill would go to the DPM and a half a mill would go either to Police protection or the People Mover, because we may need additional money for the People Mover in the first one or: two years. Mr. Calleja: Now, John Dyer ,has stated in case there was a problem that this doesn't pass that the.DDA funds for a year,'the half mill, three hundred thirty will be sufficient to cover any operating deficit. Mayor - Ferre: And how do you run the DDA? Mr. Calleja: Well, that was justa fall back position, but he has stated that is enough. A full mill would be about six hundred sixty thousand and probably more. Alright, the ---- problems on the Mayor Ferre: You see,... yes, but you see, we are talking about different things. You are talking... you are not talking about Dyer's statement with regards to deficit in the operation and I'm talking about the ten million dollars that the City of Miami may have to be putting up and what I'm saying i what I'm saying is that we may want... and the City Commission, whoever is sitting here is going to be the one that is going to determine whether the allocation of that half a mill goes towards increased Police Protection in conjunction naturally with the merchants and the Downtwon Development, Authority, I don't think that's going to be an arbitrary, unilateral thing, but this is the elected iwaz•d of this City and I think this Board will then make the determination as to whether we need more Police protection or whether those funds should go into the transportation system. Mr. Calleja: Our only problem with that is as years pass you tend to lose some of that definition that you may have stated now and we want some assume, because that was... we discussed this many, many times and the Police... Mayor. Ferre: As the years pass you will have to deal with whoever is sitting in that seat and in this seat and in this seat... Mr. Calleja: That's why I think it would be easier if it was defined right now MB gl 108 JAPE1 Q i�jt that half would go to the People Mover and half for Police protection. As we stand now it will pass because of the Police problem alone. Downtown Miami is... Mayor Ferre: But you see, what you are doing in effect is you are kind of chiselling stone the lack of ability for the future Commission to determine where. the need is for that half a mill and what I'm saying is that I got no questions that there is a need... a half a mill for the transportation. And I don't know what other needs we are going to have. And I won't be her9,youu know because I'm not going to be here when all these decisions are going to be made, because this thing won't be into effect until 1983 or 1984 and I'm not going to be the Mayor then, I guarantee you that. So... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I just express my opinion? I am in favor of 32b as in 'boy" one mill for Police and transportation with mill being split evenly between the two, that's the one I'm in favor of. Now, you know, everybody is trying to second guess what would pass. Mayor Ferre: from... J. L., it's a misnomer if you read it, that's what I have been reading Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm saying Mr. Mayor, let me don't read from anything then so there will be no misknowing. My motion would be that we go to the public in a referendum as delineated in the boundaries setforth that one mill of. additional millage be collected and that fifty percent of it go towards the DPM and fifty percent for additional Police protection in the Downtown. Now, that's what I'm in favor of and in my personal opinion that's what will apply. Mayor Ferre: I withdraw the motion that I made and I'm going to recognize you. for the purposes of that motion. Now, I want to explain what I'm going to do so that you don't get upset with me after, ok. Mr. Plummer: I never get upset with you. Mayor Ferre: Well, I want to make sure that there is clear understanding of what I'm going to try to do now. I think that what you are proposing is second best, but that maybe all we are going to get around here, ok. So I'm going to vote for that, ok, if you get a second. Mr. Plummer: Tell me... if that passes tell me what you are going to vote for. Mayor Ferre: If that passes then I'm going to make a motion that 32 be as submitted in writing here and be what we adopt. Mr. Plummer: What is the difference? Mayor Ferre: The difference is very simple, it says one half_ mill will be used for transportation in the. DPM System as, the County Commission may determine. One half to be used by either increasing the Police protection or transportation as the Commission of the City Miami may determine, either/or.' Joe, so that there is nobody mislead here, here is what I propose to do. I made a motion, I withdrew the motion. Plummer says that he wants to make a motion that is very clear, half a mill for transportation, half a mill for Police protection, no ifs or buts about it, no variation,no nothing, that's clear cut and final, ok. Now, I'm going to vote for that because I think that's second best and that maybe all that I can get and therefore I would rather get that thanto get nothing. Soon as that's over I'm going to make a motion that 32b is written which says " a half a mill for transportation and a half a mill for either. Police or transportation as the City of Miami Commission decides in the future. Now, we may not get three votes for, so I just want to tell what I plan to do before it's done so that there is no confusion on it, ok. r. Plummer: Fine. favor Ferre: Alright, Plummer, I therefore recognize you for the purposes of. he motion that you just made, is there.a second? Rev. Gibson: Let me ask. If we.go with him.... Mayor Ferre: Then I would hope that then you would vote... I'm going to make a motion that would preclude his and substitute it thereof because I don't know how this Commission is going to vote. gl 109 11111 I1111111111111 j t • • Mr. Carollo: In other words, what we have are two motions that are going to be presented. Mayor Ferre: Rev. Gibson: 24r. Carollo: Mayor Ferre: a half a mill Mr. Carollo: Mayor. Ferre: Yes. Well, the thing that bothers me i • .. , oh, I'm sorry. Is there a motion... there is a motion in the first one. Yes, Plummer made the motion that it be a half a mill for Police, for transportation. No, you know, variation. Your version is half a mill... one mill for either Police... No, half for transportation, that... Mr. Plummer: Joe, Joe, let me try to help you if I can. What I'm saying is that one mill total be asked increased. Fifty percent of it definitely go to the Downtown People Mover subsidy and fifty percent definitely goes to the Police. Now, what Maurice is saying is that he feels that, one should, be collected, fifty percent should go to the Downtown People Mover, the other half as needed either in the transportation or in the Police Department. Mayor Ferre: And this Commission will decide, you know.; Now, as I said I'm not going to be on the Commission when that decision is made because this People Mover won't come on until 1982-83, so whoever of you or your successors are on the Commission are the ones that are going to decide how that money is used. But I think you ought to have that flexibility and I don't know which way this is going to go. And you know, why limit yourself. Why take that alternative away from a future Commission is all I'm saying. Maybe... hey, if it's needed for Police, fine, then let the Commission, decide that. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, the reason why, is very clear, because if the people who have in the Downtown... I, think I have sensed that they are willing to tax themselves for a half mill for Police, ok. I think they are willing to do that and I think that would fly on it's own without anything else. I think if you give the latitude of maybe... you know, when you put this latitude Maurice, conceivably it wouldn't be seventy-five, twenty-five. Conceivably it would be ninety percent, ten percent. Mayor Ferre: It could be. Mr. Plummer: You know, and then you are down to ten percent for Police when the people. Downtown really want it. Mayor Ferre: J. L., the reason is this, that a half a mill now, Emilio, represents about four hundred thousand dollars, is that right? Mr. Grassier Three hundred thirty. Three hundred thirty: Mr. Plummer: Three hundred thirty. Mayor Ferrer Father and Joe, a half a mill today is three hundred forty thousand dollars, ok. Now, it is estimated that if this billion and a half dollars worth of construction is going on in Brickell and Downtown goes forward in three or four years a half a till- may represent one million dollars and what I'm saying is, I don't think you ought to chisel it in, in stone. I think you ought to have the flexibility to do one or the other... you know. Mr. Carollo: I can see your point Mr. Mayor, but I was just awfully concerned mat we are going to have the transportation system and not enough adequate Police in that area. So I'm going to second that (COMMENT INAUDIBLE). Rev. Gibson: Well, the danger, the danger, however is if we say Police fifty percent, transportation fifty percent and in the event you don't need it, you are lost. Mr. Lacasa: That's right. Mayor Ferre: I agree with you. Rev. Gibson: That's an awful danger. 1�0 JAN101980 gl Mayor Ferre: But we may not... Rev. Gibson: Alright, let's vote. Mayor Ferre: Alright, Plummer made his motion, Carollo seconded the motion. Now, is the motion clear, call the roll. THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION was designated MOTION NO. 80-26 was introduced by Commissioner. Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Carollo was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Carollo and Mayor Ferre. NOES: Rev. Gibson and Vice -Mayor Lacasa. ABSENT: None. (SEE LATER FORMALIZED RESOLUTION NO. 80-27) Mayor Ferre: Alright, now I pass the gavel to you and I move. that we pass a resolution exactly as written and before us marked 32b which says in substance "one half mill to be used for transportation--- add the words--- in the DPM System as the County Commission may determine and one half to be used for either increased Police protection or transportation as the Commission of the City of Miami may determine"and I so move. And that the previous motion therefore be recinded. Rev. Gibson: I second it. Mr. Lacasa: Move and seconded, please call the roll. ON ROLL CALL: Mr. Carollo: Let me say Mr.. Mayor, that if this is going to go on the ballot.. (COMMENT INAUDIBLE). Mr. Plummer: I didn't hear his vote. Mayor Ferre: He said he votes "yes". Mr. Plummer: Let me just predicate. let me just say this, I'm going to vote "no". I don't want my vote to be misconstrued. I am in favor of the Downtown People Mover, I am in favor of the added protection in the Police Department to the Downtown area, but I think that the public have the right to have it clearly delineated as to what is applied to what and when you allow a tremendous amount of discretion I think that, that's why some of your ballots of the referendums have failed in the past and I just would rather go with something... this thing was originally brought about to bring about added Police protection in the Downtown area. The DPM was a second phase of it coupled with it. I'm still in favor of both, but I am not in favor of the referendum as it is being proferred. I have to vote "no". Mr. Lacasa: I'm going to vote with the motion and my reason is this, although I feel that the top priority in Downtown Miami now is Police protection and I do feel that this money should go primarily to provide Police protection. 0n the other hand there are two situations that could happen in the future. One, that these monies represent that this half a mill represent, much more it does represent now money wise and in that event we will be looking ourselves . don't go this route. On the other hand it might be that we have additional .ending from other sources that could be provided for the Police protection .hat is needed in Downtown and that consequently we could use those monies in ,ther areas such as Sanitation which is highly needed in the Downtown area because this is one of the major problems that we also have there and therefore, I vote with the motion. Mayor Ferre: In my vote I would like to remind the Commission that all we are really doing is passing a resolution recommending to the County and therefore, it is the County Commission that really will have the final say the way we are doing this. Now, I think that the County Commission will be much more inclined to vote for this if we have that kind"of a flexibility, because... yes, because ,k 0 i98U r�. t� ,i gl if it's a clear cut half a mill for Police, half a mill for transportation they may not want to do that. Mr. Plummer: You are exactly right Maurice. Mayor Ferre: But let me finish and let me vote. Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry. Mayor Ferre: And therefore, I feel that by putting in that extra flexibility you give us the ability to convince the County Commission that they are going to get a half a mill and we are going to get a half a mill and... but our half a mill is flexible enough where we may add to the DPM in the future or not as we see fit. And if we need the money for Police we will use it for Police that has the first priority and I think the legislative intent. as Mr. Grassie and Knox are saying in another motion that we passed previous, that let it be clear on the record that it is a legislative intent of this Commission that with our half a mill the Police work and Police protection will be given priority, number one. And that it is also our legislative intent that this not be a supplemental... I mean in substitution of the normal appropriations of Police funding for this area, but in addition to and on that basis I vote "yes", Mr. Plummer: The only comment I wanted to make Maurice and here again, I'm a good loser I guess. I don't really feel I'm a loser, alright. But you know, the County has no responsibility for Police protection in Downtown, that's ours, ok. And we are asking our people to come up with the money. Mayor Ferre It's their people too. Mr. Plummer: Well,... yes, I understand, but the People Mover is solely their responsibility in conjunction with the rapid transit in which they are the recipient of federal funds and I just think that we got to watch out for the home fires first'and I think it would be more pleasable to the people who will be voting on this if they'know clear cut what they are voting on, ok. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Ferre , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO, 80-27 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AUTHORIZING AND URGING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA TO ESTABLISHA SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL POLICE PROTECTION AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO DEVELOP A DOWNTOWN PEOPLE MOVER SYSTEM WITHIN SAID DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED AND. TO LEVY AN ADDITIONAL AD VALOREM TAX NOT EXCEEDING ONE MILL ON ALL REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY IN SAID DISTRICT; REQUESTING THAT THE QUESTION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SUCH DISTRICT AND LEVYING OF SUCH TAX BE SUBMITTED TO REFERENDUM AT THE MARCH 1980-ELECTION; ACKNOWLEDGING THAT DADE COUNTY IS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION, OF THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE MOVER IN:THE CITY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) lipon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Carollo, Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.. NOES: Mr. Plummer. ABSENT: None. gl 112 JAN 1 0 1980 CONFIRMING RESOLUTION FOR MEETING DATE CHANGE OF MARCH 13TH TO MARCH 18TH. Mayor Ferre: We have a resoluinrescheduling rs��ieCity thession Meeting of March 13th to March 18thpuIImmvesGbsonsecondsfurtrdiscussion call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-28 A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 13, 1980, TO TAKE PLACE ON MARCH 18,`1980, AT 9:00 A.M. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, passed and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 44. CONFIRMING RESOLUTION FOR MEETING TO FEBRUARY 12TH. Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, the meeting... the resolution changing the February 14th meeting to February 12th, Gibson seconds, further discussion, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 80-29 A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 14, 1980, TO TAKE PLACE ON FEBRUARY 12, 1980, AT 9:00 A.M. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa Mayor'.Maurice A. Ferre L 45. DISCUSSION ON MINORITY BANKS - (CAPITAL BANK, NATIONAL, AMERIFIRST, ETC.) Rev. Gibson: We would like to take up the banks Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Gunderson, this morning you were asked to come here this afternoon and tell how a minority bank like the Capital National Bank can receive deposits and why they are not receiving deposits.. Mr. Gunderson: The ordinance and the contract that was entered into formed the policy fo the City Commission in terms of minority banks. We have three and the City Commission recognize those three and provided that they would each receive two hundred fifty thousand dollars at the inception of the contract which was over a year and a half ago, two hundred fifty thousand dollars was deposited and still resides in each of those banks. Mr. Grassie: I think that's... we need to money, they don't pay us interest on that. Rev. Gibson: Yes, but I... you know, you play the game by the rule now. know what I'm talking about? Oh, you know what I'm talking about. (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me say this... Mr. Mayor, I' better say this for the benefit of the. Commission so that everybody would know what I'm thinking and where I stand. In 1962 or 1963 my church wanted to borrow some money. We had some money and we contracted to put up a building and... I want to make sure the Manager hears this so he could know the intent and spirit of Theodore Gibson and I'm not going to deal with the particulars, I will see you at another time. But let me tell this story. The church contracted... signed a contract to put a build and we had all the money and as we went along the contract increase, you know, that change order business. Ok, we didn't have the money, so I went` to a bank located in the heart of Downtown Miami and unfortunately one of the organizers of that... it wasn't a bank, it was savings and loans, was a friend of mine and that's the only reason why the bank even started thinking about it. When the examiner came out or the man gives "yes or no", guess what he said... This was the rectory; I was living in that I put up for security. I said " under no circumstance will I mortgage the church because I will mortgage the rectory. You know what the guy said to me "this is the best damn loan our institution has had since I have been there and the reason for that was, we had built a six some odd thousand dollar residence and we were getting twelve thousand dollar mortgage on it". Mr. Grassie, That bank, that Capital Bank is in the heart of where deprived ghetto people lived and I think they would be much closer to the people` and know their needs and wants than... and I'm not going to call the bank that did that to me, any of those, banks down on Flagier Street. I hope I get my message across. Though that bank served a segment of this population that will not readily receive loans Downtown and no where else over this town. I hope you understand what I'm saying. And let me' tell you Mr. Gunderson, even the rule we have I'm not so sure that's a good rule for us knowing how this coin is split, you understand what I'm talking about? You should have been here this morning to hear that man' that made that presentation. I hope some of you heard loud and clear and Mr. Fosmoen, you and Ms. Spillman' and the rest of them, I hope you will govern yourselves accordingly. I will ^tee you after the *:meting, ok. Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else? Mr. Lacasa: You don't want to further discussion? Mayor Ferre: He made his point, he made`. his point. Rev. Gibson: I made' my point and I hope that I don't have to say anymore. That's why I want you to put some money in bank. No, no, that's why I want you to put additional monies in that bank. You understand me Mr. Gunderson? gl 114 JAB �y;�j And you know, when you come you know... Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, we stand adjourned until 7:15. Rev. Gibson: Alright, I will be back here at 7:15. Mayor Ferre: Do you want to say some Mr. Duffy? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: You certainly nay, I got no problems with that. I thought it y go ahead.. was very clear. If you want to add to that, (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Duffy: I have been affiliated with Capital Bank for sixteen years. For sixteene years ears that has been the primary bank that has served theh Black k Coterst unity.. There have been other banks in the area of savings, Federal who closed down and left. We stayed drtherepeopleprarilyhtohserveythofe Black e Community. For many years we talked with and we never received any form of deposits. In 1978 the two hundred fifty thousand dollars that Mr. Grassi:e hadreference e tto was g placedmindtiint ouwr baaanka We are minority, but I would like keep Black minority and I think we have to separate that from just a minority. We inr19 peopleiwas wheregno byhthi ank will Commissionrwhen ave. lso during fhat concerned citizen from the. 1978 it was agreed ye Black Community Ms. Athalie Range came hre and ads ren seddthenCo mission and you all agreed to put six hundred thousands taken out. I'm there. June of 1979 that six hzoomea.thousand Cotmnissionawill realize that quite sure that people in this two hundred fifty name here we e l them aack rson, one loan for Black ss which I will not call the name gave are going by the City of Miami's thousand dollars, so that left us--- if youve deposit, twenty-five thousand dollars. We feeloo aover fact the :teatstthat ie xavenue not been treated fairly by the City. Wend sharing funds that should be d�posiled in a feel thatnthetC tynofaMiamietoldoathingsrity I'm talking about Black minority. and we are begging, more conducive to the Black Community. We are taxpayers, we serve and we feel that the City Can do much better than two hundred fifty thousand. Thank you, Mr, Mayor. Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, this issue to me requiWesh some venseownsivetivity y big onathe tpart of the Commission. The question here is that help in the in the redevelopment of Overtow not the said proveriendfor ver9again, that this is one of our main priorities, if half an hour more or less we are going to start discussing, issues related to this question. The Capital Bank by opening a branch in this particular area is doing something that no other bank that I know of has to Ifle we want o make this area to be redeveloped, if we want Black businessmen same kind of proeress that Anelo businessman and Latin businessman n haven eebeenp doing, we have to get in tune here and to help. One way this that is not going to cost a penny to the City of Miami is by helping particular bank by increasing their deposits rr resolution... 1 atonot a bankiaign ng expert could be done. So I. am going to makea requesting a resolution of this City Commission that the City Manager be directed to provide the Capital Bank branch on sventh--- is rewith the sixthat corect? hundredrthousandrdollars thwest seventh Avenue and whatever the address deposits that they used to have before as a way to help and cooperate with the business development in the Black neighborhood. I so move. Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. There is a motion and there is a second... go ahead. Go ahead Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson: Honorable Commissioners.I would just like to commend you on your objective in terms of trying to find the funds for the Black business development. Ms. Hirai: Excuse me, your name and address for the record please. Mr. Johnson: My name is Charles Johnson, I'm the communityreinvestment officer for Amerifirst Federal Saving and Loan.. I would like to question though the. purpose of the deposit. What is it for? Economic Development? Business Development? Was that specific in your resolution or in the proposed resolution? up here telling me... you know, I know the rule, gl 115 JAN i 0196Q Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Johnson, I will have to refer your question to Mr. Duffy as far as how can this City... my only purpose, is to help about the only Commerce Bank that exist in the Black areas of this City to be able to better serve the Black Community. Mr. Johnson: My question then would be directed to Mr. Duffy. Mr. Duffy: Mr. Johnson, I would like to answer you this way. For the past fifteen years Capital Bank formerly known as National Industrial made the majority of SPA loans, home improvement loans, business loans in the Black Community. As I stated before in the last two weeks we approved a loan for a gentleman which I cannot call his name, that received a rapid transit contract for a hundred thousand dollars. Now, whatever, whether it is a Mom and Pop Grocery Store or whether it's someone that is trying to improve their business. Capital Bank whatever monies or whatever deposit we have we are using it in the Black Community. I don't think it's a fair question for the City to put a deposit and then say I direct you to give it to this or that one. We will help wherever help is needed, that has been our policy. Mr. Johnson: I was just a savings or checking? (BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Lacasa: wondering are these funds going to be deposited in Mr. Mayor, I call the question. Mr.'Grassie: Under discussion Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Alright. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor,,I think that the way Commissioner Lacasa has worded the resolution it may be improper. I don't believe that the City Commission wants to be in the position of attempting this way to direct the Manager to put deposits in a specific bank. If the City, Commission wants to accomplish that objective, I think that the first thing that you would have to do is to change what is your established policy with regard to receiving banking services. Second, you would have to establish some kind of a procedure as a City policy with regard to the bidding process, because you remember that you have already adopted a policy that we would give banking services on a bid basis. Third, I, think that you have to address the question that was implicitin the resolution and that is that this kind, of action does not cost the City any money. Now, if we put six hundred thousand dollars out in a demand deposit, that means a checking account, that means that you are receiving no interest whatsoever on that money and it is not the case that, that does not cost you any money. Now, I think that in order to be fair to not only this bank, but also the banking industry in this community that we have to set some kind of rule so that we know... we can answer everybody fairly. Mr. Lacasa: Joe, I don't want any special, treatment from the financial stand point of view to the Capital Bank or anything that will result in any cost whatsoever to the City of Miami. What I want is preferential treatment to this particular bank on account of the specific situation that we have discussed here. ;In other words, I don't know the technicalities of this and; I will have to refer it to Mr. Gunderson here for technical assistance about how to go about this. The, spirit of my motion is very simple. This bank according Mr. Duffy's statement used to have a certain amount of money from the City of Miami as deposits which was consistent obviously, with the policy of the City of Miami to deposit certain amount of monies in banks if that is the situation and if those monies has been transferred to other banks that might... that''hry deposit might not serve the kind of social purpose that I am looking for in the spirit of my motion then what I move is... what I am moving is that the Commission sets the policy that if we have these resource, that we are going to employ these resource to use it with other banks that might not need, that might not have the special need that this particular bank has, then that we make if necessary an exception to that policy and we use this resource' in a way that could be useful to this particular area. That's all. Mr. Crnssie: I understand the spirit of what you are saying Commissioner and You know, basically I, agree with it, but what hasn't been told to you is that the reason that the Capital Bank had that special deposit of six hundred some thousand dollars for one year was because it was the last... it was done on an exceptional basis as the last action in<a thirteen year program in which the City's average balance in banks on a demand deposit basis had averaged that figure 61 1�s1 �+ U , and we had gone from bank to bank for thirteen years through twelve other banks and these were banks that were named in an ordinance approved by the City Commission. Now, because the City Commission wanted to change to establish a new policy and the Capital Bank would have been penalized because they were the last one on the list, we made an exception in their case and gave them this special deposit, but it was an exception and it was done for a one year period which is as long as any other bank in the Community had received those funds. Now, after that you went out on a bid basis to all the banking community and you have awarded your banking business to the winning bid which I_ believe happens to be the Pan American Bank for a three year period. Now, if you are going to take money... and you have already done that, you have already made that award for a three year period. If you are going to take the money and treat it differently all I'm suggesting to you is that we need to review what you have done and we need to establish a policy ,a new policy so that I have a rational basis for acting. Mr. Lacasa: Well, I will put it this way then, why don't you come with a recommendation from you that will try to live up to the spirit of this motion that I am making without jeopardizing the financial situation of the City. In other words, without costing anything to City if that is possible within the present limits. If you find ways that we can use our banking necessities... The City of Miami has banking needs, ok, so if we... we have to use banking services on regular basis on whatever the basis they might be, so if we could use those needs to help the needs of this particular area through this device that is what I am aiming for and what I suggest then is that you make a recommendation that will live up to that spirit. Mr. Grassie: Let's see what we can bring back to you that would try to achieve that objective. Mayor Ferre: Alright, then the motion is withdrawn and we have a clearer statement as to where we want to go. Alright, we will now meet at 7:30 N• WHEREUPON the CitY Commissionrecessed at 6:50 and. reconvened at-7:55, with all members of the City Commission found to be present. 46. REPORT ON OVERTOWN DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE, INC. Mayor Ferre: Alright, the purpose of our meeting tonight, it is a scheduled report on the Overtown Development Advisory Board and the New Washington Heights Community Development Conference, Inc. on the motion that was passed in November which was 79-805. Mr. Grassie? Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission,;I would like to ask Nancy Bond to introduce the subject so that we lay a groundwork for the discussion. Mayor Ferre: Ms. Bond. Ms. Bond. Good evening, I'm Assistant Director for the Department of Community ' v,:.>pment of the Community Development Division and I along with Mr. Gary :ttelded the joint meeting of the. two Boards. The New, Washington Heights and the Culmer or the Overtown Advisory Board. There were three joint netings held, you have a... Mayor Ferre: Now, Ms. Bond three joint meetings from when to when to? Since we last met at the Commission, you mean? Ms.'Bond: Since the last Commission Meeting. There were meetings held by`.. the two Boards on November 28th, December'4th and December 13th, during which time the resolution of the matter was brought before .them. You have a report as part of your agenta packet. The joint meetings both Boards attended the gl 117 JAN i meetings and contributed very positively to the discussions. At the first meeting the problemwas discussed and the Boards brain storm together to come up with some potential solutions. At the second meeting the roles of both Boards and the staff were discussed. The group then discussed a proposed packet of mutual understanding which staff had developed and which contained eight points which I would like to review quickly for you. They are on page 17 of your agenda packet. The eight points where points which would be agreed upon by the two organizations. Point number one, New Washington Heights will modify the Bylaws of the organization in order that the election process permit total community participation' in terms of membership, Mayor Ferre: Well, wait a minute, I don't see any 17. Ms. Bond: It's the first legal size page. Page 17. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see, I'm sorry, ok. Ms. Bond: ... elections and eligibility to serve as a board member. Two, New Washington Heights will hold a membership drive to attract new members; and an election will be held in January 1980 to elect a new Board. This election will be monitored by City staff. Three, New Washington Heights will provide public notice of all Board meetings and all meetings will be open to the public except in cases of disruption. Number four, New Washington Heights Community Development Advisory Board and City agree to mutually respect each others organization. Five, New Washington Heights will keep the Community Development Advisory Board informed of activities and progress by submitting to them a copy of the monthly report which New Washington Heights submits to the City. Six, New Washington Heights will submit a quarterly financial statement regarding all funds received to the Community Development Advisory Board for their review. Seven, the Community Development Advisory Board agrees to drop all charges against the New Washington Heights Organization. And number eight, the Community' Development Advisory Board agrees to recommend to the City Commission the six year Community Development funding of New Washington Heights. All of these points were thoroughly discussed at the meeting. Positive consensus was reached on a majority of the items. only one of the eight, number seven was not agreed upon and number seven reads "the Community Development Advisory Board agrees to drop all charges against the New Washington Heights organization". So the Boards had further discussion of this particular point and did not resolve the issue. Mayor Ferre: Is that the' only issue unresolved? Ms. Bond: That was the only one on this list. There was some amendment, discussed to Item #8 which was to... the recommending of the funding in New Washington Height and the Community Development Board agreed to a wording that would link it to a positive evaluation pending a positive elvaluation of the New Washington Heights operation. So no final agreement was reached before the two Boards prior to tonights meeting. And that is a brief summary: There are minutes of each of the meetings attached for your information and both Mr. Gary and I would be happy to discuss it further and answer any of your questions. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, can we hear from Mr. Gary. Mr. Grassie: Just a short comment Mr. Mayor, yes. Mr. Gary: I would like to say that when we got the task of trying to get the. Boards to meet the issues involved were highly emotional' and had existed in the community for a long time. I' think both Boards should be commended on the efforts that they made to try to resolve the issues. As a matter of fact, I think as Nancy said of the eight items at that time when we had the last meeting most of them were pretty much agreed on with the exception of those two. I would just like to say that I'` think both Boards have made any effort to try to resolve this issue. Mayor Ferre: Alright? Mr Plummer: Well, the obvious question has to be nothing was accomplished. Mayor Ferre: No, that's not the point at all. Mr. Plummer: Well, that's the way that... 118 gl JAA Mayor Ferre: Well, what I heard is that they had three meetings and that they came to an agreement on seven points and could not come to an agreement on the eighth point which is Item #7, but they came... Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, What I'm saying is that all the rest of them are really meaningless if in fact that one is not resolved, that's like saying I will give you all of the bananas, but I don't have a stock. Mayor , Ferre: Well I don't know. I heard Theodore Gibson say when he came; back from Israel that if the Egyptians and the Israelis can talk to each other there is no reason why... and you know,... and that agreement didn't just come over night. The fact is.I think this is substantial progress that the New Washington Heights will modify the By-laws of the organization that the elective process permit total community participation in terms of membership, elections and eligibility on the Board, that's a major breakthrough. That New Washington Heights will hold a membership drive to attract new members and have an election in January of 1980 to elect a new Board monitored by the City, that's a major breakthrough. That New Washington Heights will provide public notice of all Board hearings and all meetings will be opened to the public, that's a major breakthrough. Mr. Plummer: That's mandatory. Mayor Ferre: Well, they weren't doing that before. New Washington Heights Community Development Advisory Board agree to mutually respect each others organization.' That the New Washington Heights will keep the CD Advisory Board informed of their activities and submit a copy of their monthly reports, that they will submit quarterly financial statements of all funds received for review, that's a major breakthrough. And the CD Advisory Board agrees to recommend to the City Commission the six year CD funding of New Washington Heights. To me... you say that's not progress and I tell... Now, I agree that the lack of dropping of the charges by the CD Advisory Board against New Washington Heights is a stumbling block.' Mr. Plummer: That what brought the whole issue here in the beginning Mr. Mayor. Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, if I could respond to Commissioner Plummer, even though we have not reached an agreement I think we must take into consideration two things. First of all, prior to these meetings there was no clear cut identification' of what the problem or problems were, that has been done. The second thing is that there no identification of what steps should be taken to try to resolve those problems. Now, those two things, I think have occurred and even though we haven't reached an agreement, I` think that's progress. Mayor Ferre: Well, what do we do now? What's your recommendation now Mr. Gary? Mr. Gary: I think probably... you know, we have people from the community here you may want to hear them first and have discussion with them before, you know, we comment on any recommendation we may have. Mayor Ferre: Who wants to be recognized? Who wants to come up and talk first? Mr.Dorsett: Honorable Mayor... Mayor Ferre: Excuse tne. Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor? Let me ask this question Mr. Mayor. were here this morning when that presentation was made? L,ursett:. None of us... we were notified this morning about ii,it presentation was supposed to be on the agenda, we were not . ntil about 9 or 10 o' clock this morning. •.ev. Gibson: Yes? Go ahead Ms. Spillman.' How many of you 9 o'clock that, notified before Ms. Spillman: None of the members of the Overtown Advisory Board was present, you are talking about the Economic Development presentation. None of the members` were here and it was not an, item for a •public hearing. Rev. Gibson: Alright, let the ask...(COMMENT INAUDIBLE). Where is Mr. 119 Johnson? gl JAN101980 (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor. Ferre: No, here he is. Rev. Gibson: No, no,... oh, here he is. Mr. Johnson and Mr. Dorsett, ok. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dorsett was here and Mr Johnson was here. Rev. Gibson: Yes, well, that's what I'm trying to say. There isn't: any formal recommendation here. I know again some of you are going to get mad, but I_tried to get you together. You won't listen me, but at the peril of everybody calling me a S.O.B. and don't you think because I'm a Priest I don't know what that means, I do know. I'm not so sure that before you agree or disagree shouldn't talk with the man that made a presentation this morning. He was logical, he was sensible, he was dead on target, he was telling what I have been trying to tell you and he is in the German Who knows anything about German language. Mayor Ferre: About what? Rev. Gibson: German language. Who knows how to speak it? Well, let me... it's been so long since I was around it. (german expression) means, that you know this is the object 'behind the imagine, _ ok, that's what it means by b large in German. Any German speaking... Anybody here knows German because 1 want to make sure that'I don't mislead anybody. Mr. Plummer: I will waiveconsecutive translation. Rev. Gibson: Alright, alright, beautiful. Alright, what I'm saying is... and this is not to cut you off. Let me say this the man that spoke to us this morning about economic development made the most sensible, honest ---,I believe--- simple, forthright presentation I have heard in a long, long-time. And all he was saying was what I was trying to get you to see and more than that, he happens to be the man who worked out the arrangement, he worked with it, he now heads the agency and he showed how what was happening to them in Philadelphia still is happening to you. The City gave you a sum of money and went and used it and had nothing to show. What they did was, they finally cameto the renovation and that's what was happening and they began... they put that money together and put some teeth in what they were recommending and then they used, they used literally the credit of the City to get some things done so that when they went talking about economic development and all that other business because the City was backing the agency or the group, that what they were able to do is to pay loose, shake loose, multiply what they had based on what the local financial institution were willing to do. The local financial institution at that point couldn't walk away with their marbles. I would hope that rather than... for instance, rather than even try to deal with this tonight, the man is in town and I think the Citybrought him here... isn't that right? You spent your tax money. I'm not so sure those of us who live here would not want to take it back. Listen, you know... listen, the trouble with most of us is we don't listen everybody comes in the meeting with a preconceived notion and idea. Now, I tried to get you... and I want you to...(STATEMENT INAUDIBLE, PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC RECORD). 1 triei to get you to see the advance of having one overall Committee for all of Overtosrn and get rid of Phyllis Wheatley, New Washington Heights, Culmer and... what's the other one? Any others I left out? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Rev. Gibson: Well, I_ (STATEMENT INAUDIBLE). Ok. That man this morning contrary to what our staff might want to believe or say, that man showed us how they had one big Committee, did what they wanted to do and they are successful. Now, I don't quarrel with success. Now, I should never forget the former... well, two cthLrs after him, but a former Rector with Saint Agnes Episcopal Church who was my Priest at the time said something like this "if you are going to listen to anybody there is nothing wrong with listening to a man: who has a success story. The fact that you don't have a success story -- this is the way it was said--- you can't convince him". He told me that. I was a youngster under him and I met a lot of other youngsters who wanted to tell you where to go and what to do. He said "show me your success story". And then I` refer to a Priest in Raleigh and you know what he said "But show me his success story". Now, don't take my word for it. Mr. Dorsett, stand there Please. You know these people, you have been in communication with them. Mr. Johnson, stand there please...' oh, yes, you can both stand up here. You know these people you have been dealing with them, you tell them what I just related...(STATEMENT INAUDIBLE And you are in the banking business... you used to be in... you know, you have to admit_ what'I said, that the man presented... and the way that community was turned about made good, sensible... like music, I don't mean that loud stuff, but sweet music to the head. Now, you come to the mike and talk... no, each of you come up here speak. Mr. Dorsett: Father Gibson, I'm...` Rev. Gibson: I identify yourself. Mr. Dorsett: Kelsey Dorsett, 2500 Northwest 123rd Street. I'm somewhat familiar with the Philadelphia City Wide Development Corporation having been in a similar corporation here in Miami. Generally, I agree with this presentation wholeheartedly, I think it can be modified to suit our area. There should be more discussion about it, more presentation to not just the Overtown Community, but throughout the City of Miami and including Dade County and I think a viable development corporation plan can be developed. Rev. Gibson: You just lost me, you just 1,ost me when you said throughout Dade County. I'm not elected to represent Dade County. Mr. Dorsett: City of Miami. Well, alright, the City of Miami, ok. But I think a viable plan can be developed based on a lot of the concepts that were presented today, I certainly do. Mayor Ferre: Mr Johnson? Mr. Johnson: I must agree that... Rev. Gibson: Mr. Johnson, please identify yourself. Mr. Johnson: My name is Charles Johnson, I'm a Community Reinvestment Officer with Amerifirst Federal. I must agree that the presentation made this morning was one that would lead to success here. Now, I agree also that some modifications have to be made that in order to suit the conditions that we have here in Miami. Now, I think the thrust of what you are asking us to do is to indicate that the City of Miami has taken steps to bring in people to look at the economic development problems of this area. This morning there was presentation that offered some solution along those lines. They are solutions that are not unfamiliar to must of us. They are kinds of things that some people have been chartered to do for some time and they are the kinds of things that have been expected by this community for some time. The reasons that we have not achieved those things go back to the kinds of problems they used to have in Philadelphia and obviously cooperation leads to success. Now, the environment that exist in Philadelphia is somewhat different than exist in Miami. Now, Philadelphia has one large minority which lives in one location wherein we are a group of minorities that live all over and one thing that we must be careful of in whatever we do is that as we proceed with economic development that is done in a manner which will pull people together and not in a manner which will separate us. And... Now, I think I will leave my statement at that point. Rev. Gibson: Well, Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, all I wanted them to do is... whatever you say tonight and whatever you agree upon;I would hope that before you say this is where we are you would take advantage of the opportunity to invite the man so all of you may hear and hopefully you can learn something, because I want to tell you, it was amazing how he was able to tell us how they were able use the force of the City in their advantage to where we are going and what we have done. We have not tried, we aren't going to try, we aren't using the City to our advantage. Now, I know... you know, nobody has to tell me Philadelphia is different than Miami,` because there is not another ;:ty•this size that has the ethnic composition we have. I'm pretty aware of that. sz.t you know, there still should not be a war. We could take what he has or .that he recommends which is not what we have and which is not what we have recommended and use it. And you don't... you know, I'm not the law on gospel, I just thought I would say that before we get into all of this you know... So I have been through it with you, I love you, but I` tell you everyday I'm getting... you know how my hair is getting short. Mayor Ferre: Alright, before we get to public statements are there any other statements by any member of the Commission at this time, if not, who... you want to be heard, sir? Alright, I will now open it up for public statements by Pr- 121 gl JAN101960 anybody who wishes to use the microphone. Mr. 0/Conner T. Clark: My name is-O'Conner T. Clark, I'm a free lance creative Engineer. I enjoy rhetoric, talk, but I want to tell you what's happening everyday in the Culmer area, We have the Sterrer Bunning on bth Street and 3rd Avenue painted up beautifully in and out, what happened? Someone continues to go in break the cement in the floor, break the wiring, the fencing on this site time after time after time. The building at 3rd Avenue and 10th Street has been run into eleven times since the death of Mr. Ben West and every time within an hour after it's been run into, the porch broken down somebody runs out and puts a condemn sign on the building to tear the building clown because of this porch, you know, is missing. On 3rd Avenue and loth Street going towards llth we have a building that somebody continues to go in tear out of the walls, tear up the petition, tear up the floor, you can go there in the morning and see for yourselves, ok. Now, whatever these property managers put up, plywood on buildings, somebody is being paid to go around and tear up the plywood off of the building. Somebody is being paid to keep our area deteriorated, destroyed. Somebody is being paid to do that and we are talking about a six year program, we haven't had a one year program. And somebody ought to stop this sort of vandalization and tearing up the area, tearing up the buildings, tearing up the progress so that the managers will repair and It remain repaired. We have a building at 3rd Avenue near 10th Street, they had to put iron bars up to windows and doors to keep these .individuals from coming in and tearing up the walls. Somebody is being paid to do it. Now, that's why we can't get any progress, because somebody is being paid to keep our area deteriorated, to keep our area destroyed and to keep, us from development Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any other public' statements at this time? Sir? Mr Perkins: My name is Perkins and I'm with the legal services of Council and I'm a member on this Community Advisory and I'm one of the representatives... Mayor Ferre: Mr. 'Perkins, would you talk into the microphone a little bit more? Mr. David L. Perkins: My name is David L. Perkins, I am one of the representatives of the poor people helpers out in the poor community. I'm a member of the Community Advisory and also I'm a member of the clients Council of the legal serivices of the Greater Miami Incorporation. Alright, as far as the neighborhood in Culmer ninety percent of that Culmer within the last six or seven year nothing have been done within it. Alright, I have one of the latest reports right here with me showing on this Community Advisory Board and this Redevelopment Plans nothing has been done. When you al]. were speaking of this New Washington Heights within it there are a lot of violations also inside and outside it, over it, on top of it and all around it when you get down to it. All of: this nitt\' gritty of this hundred some thousand dollars is not actually coming into this Culmer Community to help the people that actually need some assistance in this community.. Alright, I have a list here of which I brought you all a copy to run through, also I quoted one point that I want you to please take note of, "Need of homes and apartments here in the Culmer Community". Homes and apartments that are needed now for the people to have somewhere to live. Please come out in this community and see where.the. poor people have to live. Culmer Community, the folly is, which mean for you all to please get out of your offices and your seats and come out here and see why these people need assistance, because under this Community Advisory Board, under Culmer Community Developers and under those other assistants nothing has been done in Culmer Community within the last seven years, but tell the public lies about getting the Culmer area developed. And here is a. copy of the report that I brought frr you all to make copies of and pass them out to see what I'm talking about and if you all want to find me here is an extra copy of two locations in which I brought also where you can find me. I would appreciate it if you all' would please come out and see the problems and try to get something done-fpr these people that need assistance instead of being concerneo auout tie pars. Parks can wait. All these park matters can wait. Living conditions are more important, so help these people that need some assistance. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, any other statements? Mr. William Clark: My name is William Clark and I have been around here for about forty—one years, I came to Miami in 1940. I agree with him. There is gl money being spent for a park on 14th Street and 3rd Avenue, that park is, needed like I need a hole in my head'. Instead of people building something for people to live in instead of parks... you have Dorsey Park, you have a Phyllis Wheatley, a Bicentennial Park, you have got too many parks and you ain't got where for people to live. The built', a Justice Building, you built all these things out here in this community. And talking` about Philadelphia is a condemnation here. Everything is being condemn and nothing is being built for people to live in. So I don't have much more to say, but I agree with him about these parks. We don't need parks, we need places to live in and it's a disgrace. Don't call Philadelphia... there is no City I think in the world that has more condemnation than Miami. Thank you, very much. Mayor Ferre: Any other statements to the Commission at this time? Ms. Grace Roker: Ms. Grace Roker of Roker's Grocery at 108 Northwest 1st Place. As a businesswoman and a property owner of the community I see no... one thing first I would like to say. I would like to see the By-laws of both Boards. If I could read the By-laws in my leisure time maybe I would know what to recommend to both Boards, but it seems as though, each one are hiding their By-laws. They come out and they tell the community at the last minute, this is a meeting scheduled... 1 knew at 3 o'clock this afternoon that there would be a Commission Meeting tonight. So I' just threw someone in the store to run the store. As a property owner I would like to redevelop my property. I can't redevelop my property if the City say they are taking it over and they are buying' it. Nobody is telling me anything. As a concerned citizen, ;a participant in the community, I think both Boards need to get together and come back before the Commission instead of beefing. You see what we as a group could do for the community... I aways learned from a kid together we stand and apart we fall and if we are divided we are like a divided... We are like Russia fighting the United States and each one of us afraid of each other. So this is all I have to say at the moment. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, any other members of the public that want to... Mr. Clinton Brown: I would just like to say something briefly. I' thought initially that the purpose of this meeting to try to resolve the differences between the two Boards. It seems as if we are kind of straying off a little for what the purpose is here. As was mentioned by Mr. Gary, there seems to be actually one point of difference and that's Item 7 on that... Mayor Ferrer Mr. Brown, let me interrupt you. Mr. Brown: Yes. Mayor Ferre: When hot issues that involve... communities are involved it's always, been my policy to let anybody who wants to say anything say it, because when you try to stop people from talking, then people get all upset. Now, I understand .the last five speakers that have spoken haven't spoken in anyway to anything that's up before this Commission"at this time with regards to the mandate that the City Commission gave to the community and to these two Boards to work out their differences. Mr. Brown: I guess just that I put some value on time. Mayor Ferre: Yes, and I do too. Mr. Brown: Usually each time that we come down here we are usually at the end of the meeting or we spend a awful lot of time down here on matters that does not pertain to us. r)r'Ferre: I' understand. qr. Brown: And that's why I'm somewhat concerned because I` do put a premium nn time. The point I want to... Mayor Ferre: I hope we are now going in, the direction of addressing the issue and I want to let everybody who hasn't... who wants to say something to say it and then I think hopefully the Commission will get into. Mr. Brown: Ok, I, just one to say one thing in reference to'Item ;7, that seems to be the stopping point of the agreement. To my knowledge when ever two groups 123 gl JAN 10 1988 comes to an impass then someone tries to find the medium ground and -I think that in this particular case as with Item 7 what we should attemp to do is find some compromise between the two groups and resolve the problems and move ahead on things, more productive. Mayor Ferre: Well, have you got any ideas on how to solve Item 7? Mr. Brown: Well, in the meeting I recommended to just drop Item 7 all together, but I was voted down so... Mayor Ferre: Who is next? I don't see anybody wanting to be heard at this point so I assume that all the... Yes, Ma'am? Mrs. Hines: To the Mayor and the other fellow Commissioners, I'm Mrs. Hines. As I' have been in the community now for a short while... I haven't been there that long... and looking at Item 7 I wish that the Commissioners would take into consideration if there is some suggestion that we would drop the charges and for us probably to get a greater understanding that probably that Board could try to work with New Washington Heights. There has been a lot of people who talking about New Washington Heights has not gone to New Washington Heights to even utilize the office. There has been a lot of things going on with New Washington Heights that I -don't really believe that a lot of people has taken into consideration with all the bickering and the arguing to really find out. I know for myself that I have been in that office. I have utilized that office to the best. I have never been turned down and there has been mail because my Aunt Jennie died and the property that I'm aver, she died and left it there. She had been a resident in that area for years, so that's why I'm mainly there, but I see that there is a lot of things... and; New Washington Heights really helped me a lot in finding out a lot of things that really was really all ball up down in that area. So I say to the Commission that I think under all consideration we need New Washington Heights there and we need working with them. I think that the CD Board should work with them. All they need is fellowship and in order for us to go on I think this is what we will have to do is work together. Mr. Charles Cash: Charles Cash, Vice -Chairman of the Culmer Advisory Board. Honorable Mayor and Commissioners, we have tried very hard to work with New Washington Heights very, very hard. We have a lot of problem. communication problems, we have all kind of problems. As far as the lady... she said to utilize New Washington Heights it's impossible to do something when you know that you are not welcome there. You have try to go into these places with a fair hand that you would take and do as best as you possibly can for the whole community' and for the people of the community. And it has been a problem for us and everybody that I have talked to. As far as New Washington Heights there are people that don't even want to be bothered or hear the name of New Washington Heights. What we are saying to you is not.. we don't want to disrupt New Washington Heights in a sense, but if they cannot take and pull their load what they are being funded for, well, then I think we should have some other kind of community based organization that we put our funds towards. Thank you, very much. s there anybody else who wishes Ms. Jenny Mae Slaughters: My name is Jenny Mae Slaughters, a property owner at 218 Northwest llth Street. I would like to say in behalf of New Washington Heights. I have been going to the meetings and I have sit back and I have looked and I have listened and I have seen, this is not New Washington Heights, this is a personal thing and anybodywho has any common sense can see this, because 1 have never been to that office and was turned down. If Mrs. Bell is not there her is there or any of the other people that write letters for me or attend the business that I didn't understand and helped me. I don't knowwhat it is, but we've got to work together with this lady and try to help her and I'm asking the side let's all work to betterment our community out there and quit fighting each other. We can't get any where like that. And Father Gibson is telling us right. I'm on the Board now, but I don't know how long I'm going to stay because I can't go through with this fighting against each other because... I don't have the education that she has or naybe some of the others, but I think we need to stand together and help Ms. Bell because I don't know anybody that can say Ms. Bell do not bend over... she bends over backwards to help you and I would like to see anybody who says she doesn't do it. Thank you. 124 Ms. Joyce Parks: I do not live in the Culmer Community. I have volunteer my time for the past year attending Board meetings, not only at New Washington Height.;, but Board meetings of the Advisory Board. I personally know that there is earmarked eleven thousand dollars for community services. There are several businesses... well, two that I know of particularly that have needed funds for appraisals, ok. When they have approached New Washington Heights for these monies, they have been turn down and that is what the money is for. People have come here continuously and have said things that are not true and it bothers me, because I' see what condition that area is in. I have heard the condition that, that area was in years ago, because my parents have told me about it. I have tried helping-. I think Mr. Ferre knows about the Education Committee and the things that we tried to do. And I have seen over. andover and over again when people try to do things positively for the area that they always come up against walls continually and it's not fair to the Community. And it's been said over and over again that it's personal, but I know personally, I know Father Gibson knows it, I know Mayor Ferre knows it that people that have been said to have been personal stuck up for New Washington Heights for months considered to be against New Washington Heights were for New Washington Heights and the question is... that should be raised is why is everybody turning against them? Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright? Mr. Similey: Mayor Ferre and City Commissioners and City Manager, my name Similey, S.monette Similey, You all was kind of laughing at the gentleman there, but I have several properties and what he say is really true. Now, have two houses... Mayor Ferre: What who said is really true? Mr. Similey: The one that was saying that they are coming to, condemn your property. I say I have one sixteen, eighteen and one twenty Northwest 10th Street that they knew they were going to take for Rapid Transit. So they came over there and put a condemn sign on both of my buildings and moved all the people out and I didn't even know thing about it hardly. So I went down to see if they would take it back off because there wasn't nothing wrong with the building. There was one violation on one building and two on the other. They took the violation off, but in the meantime they had put me completely out of business. One house have twenty rooms, the other one havesixteenand the Police Department on 3th'Street and 2nd Avenue I have an apartment building with sixteen apartments that I try and keep up. I have got three units out of the whole sixteen apartments right now and you know that's nearly impossible Downtown Miami. They came up and kicked down all my doors, the cops did and I put them back together. So I told the guy across the street to watch out for who was breaking my doors, so he told me the Policemen who kicked my doors open and their number and the car number and all of that. 1 went down there and reported it to internal security and they say well, they kicked out one door and they will replace it which they never did. They say the reason for the cops to go up and kick out the doors because a man ran in there with a gun. Mayor Ferre; Mr. Similey, I hate to do this to you, but we are getting close to 9. Mr. Similey: Yes, but I just wanted you to know that, that's all. What he was telling you is really true they are tearing up the apartments. Mayor Ferre: Yes,what we have talk about tonight is New Washington Heights... Mr. Similey: And they burned my building up too. Well, You said you were going to let the citizens speak. I have never spoken up here before and I pay only rIhn„* fifty thousand dollars a year in taxes and I think I should speak a little c,On' t you? ",yor Ferro: That's why I have let you and everybody else ramble here for the last hour. M:. Similey: And that ain't all, sir. I have a hotel in Downtown Miami. The Fire Department came out and play around it like kids, I had a fire in one room and they almost let it burn up, that was last week. They made me close up all the doors with closers so the air could get in to make the building burn and they went upstairs and chopped up all the vents on it and had it all opened so the fire could spread all over the place. Thank, you, very much. 125 JAN1 01 80 Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Similey. Alright, I hope we can get on with the issue before us which is New Washington Heights and the Culmer CD Board Mr. Benjamin Brown: My name is Benjamin Brown and I reside at 218 Northwest 14th Terrace, I'm a member of the Culmer Advisory, Council and I think the problem here is that you have created a Board and you have created another Board to oversee the Board that was created first. In other words, this is my....' and I mentioned this to my Board. This is like creating the child before you created the parents and the problem is that one Board does not respect the other Board because they were in existence first and I think the City of Miami --- and I'm very sorry to say this in •a way--- I think you have done a very poor job in supervising the activities of the New Washington %eights because if you had many of these things that we are being confronted with now would be no need. There would be no need, for this confirmation. And I -think the only way that we are going to resolve this problem is to let both Boards know who is in charge and what is expected from Board as it relates to the other Board. Mayor Ferre: Alright, any further statements? Alright, at this Mr. Moses Florence: And'I just wanted to address the mutual packet of understanding as former. President of the Board of New Washington Heights. Most of the items- that were indicated one thru six have been accepted by the past Board of Washington Heights and at a meeting now scheduled for next Wednesday the New. Board of Washington` Heights will also take up those items in terms of implementing. As we has indicated and I believe it appropriate for the two Boards to continue to dialogue as Mr. Gary has indicated a means communication has been opened. Many areas of misunderstanding have been resolve. The City has now identified the roles of the organizations and I think as we continue to preform our functions that these roles will nest. We have agreed as part of this packet, although.' it hasn't been signed things have been taking place within to implement these items that the quarterly meetings of the two Boards will help to resolve any other types of issues that may come up in the future and it would be my contention and my recommendPtion to the Commission that we continue the dialogue which as been established, great success I believe has been accomplished. ayor Ferre: Mr. Florence let me ask you a question. Who is the new Chairman or Chairperson? Mr. Florence: The Board was elected last night and it will meet this coming Wednesdayto elect new officers. Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. And is the Board the same or are there new members? Mr. Florence: No, only five members' of the eleven members Board hadserved on the Board previously, so the majority of the Board is completely new. Mayor Ferre: And who is eligible to vote for that Board? Mr. Florence: We held a membership campaign thru December 21, 1979 and approximately one hundred persons did sign up for membership to the organization, thirty-seven attended the meeting last night for the voting of the membership. Mr. Florence: The qualifications for memberships are that they a person' complete an application indicating a membership of that he either be a resident of the area, a property owner of the area or concerned citizen of the area. Those were the basic... Mayor Ferre: No other restrictions? Mr. Florence: There was requirement of a five dollar membership fee, but that was waived during this membership campaign. Mayor Ferre: Ok, so any person who wanted to join the New Washington Heights organization could have joined in December. Was that well-known in the community? Mr. Florence: That's correct. Well, we advertised that... it was advertised three times on three consecutive weeks. Mayor Ferre: Well, where it advertised? gl 126 Mr. Florence: It was advertised in the Miami Times for three consecutive weeks. It was advertised in the Miami Herald on several occasions. Mayor Ferre: Do you have a copy of the ads? Mr. Florence: We didn't bring a copy of the ad with us, but we have it available. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Florence: mean were they sufficiently large where it was public... Yes, they were. (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: So in other words, there was plenty public notice that there was` such an election going on, is that what you are saying?, (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Ok, anything else. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, on one ofthose... on #5 there community participation and as far as the election part of it... last night theyhad election over the New Washington Heights and it was deplorable the way it was carried out. Now, the City staff was there... Mayor Ferre: Well, were you there? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, I was there. Now, Moses came to us on our first meeting... the City Manager was there and he told us that... at that time he told us that each member, voting member would have to be a part of that Board for six months, that's what took us away from it. He said last night that the people that were there was all members of New Washington Heights. They have people on the Board that I know weren't members of the New Washington Heights that is on the Executive Board, you know... and these things is the way that they created this problem last night to take and keep our Advisory Board or any member of. our Advisory Board away from there. I`was interested, but after he said... what he said about the six months elimination, that's what made us turn away from being a member of that Advisory Board and Moses was right there the night that he, said that to us and that is the reason the majority of the members that would have wanted to get on the Advisory Board is not there. Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's see if we can wind up this public portion. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Ferre, can I' -say one word for a minute? Mayor Ferre: I will let you say it in a moment as soon as I_ see if there is anybody else who hasn't spoken that wants to say something, because at this point after you speak I':n going to close up the meeting and then it's going to be the Commission. • • UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Ferre, they ;had .ample time. Now, this' is the card for membership and I had just joined it. I have a son that works in this area and I got twenty-five petitions, you know, sign for... for people'to sign for this and out the twenty-five I don't think... only three showed up, but they have a lot of time. And I got my card and it was the first time I was in the meeting of this organization and I' think they are trying to do the best they can as far as I, you know, I know, because I just joined it. But I gave out twenty-five petitions and signed them with registered voters, senior citizen and only I, think, one or two showed up. So they had time you know, I mean in order to it, but some people just, you know, they don't do things like they should. i;er.i: you, very much. Mr. Sidney Cox: My name isSidneyCox, I'm a member of the Board of Directors ,f New Washington Heights and the Advisory Board and I_ just can't sit down and not say this. It is highly deplorable for the one person in our community that has received more help and more dollars from the actions and the work of New Washington Heights could continue to come up and do the things that they are doing. In regards to the six months participation with the Board of Directors in order to be a member of the Board, it was only done that way so that any person serving on the Board would have, some knowledge about the actions and the workings of New Washington Heights. It would be highly deplorable for person gi 127 JAN 101980 to come and take a membership tonight and become to Board member to guide an organization of which they did not have any knowledge of how it 'works and that was the only reason it was inserted. I hope that next vear we will have people who have worked over a period of time and would be graciously accepted as Board members. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, again, when Mr. Cox was speaking he was referring to me of my packet with HUD of, I believe it was seventy-nine thousand dollars. Now, I started this project with New Washington Heights and one counselor. From the day I start this project I had a counselor from New Washington Heights that help me packet my loan packet with HUD. Now, ;since the time that I started the first day I haven't... 1 have had this counselor because over the period of years he got friendly with me because it took me two years and that's why I'm speaking out about it. It took me two years to get this packet, it almost bankrupted me and 1 was almost completely out of business one time on account of New Washington Heights and the promise: that they game men to help me along the process while my building was being rehabilitated. Now, I'm not saying that New Washington Heights did not offer me a counselor, they did do that, but I'm talking about I'm the only... the only piece of property Oyertown that has been done in the last ten years. Now, I'm saying to you that just like mine was done because I took It on my own to do a lot of it after I got into it, because after Ms. Bell told me that I was a businessman and whatever I needed to do I would have to do it on me own, well, I accepted as such and 1 will continue the packet on my own. I don't .want this to happen to nobody else. What happened to me on that, I. don't want to happen to nobody else :and that's exactly why I'm speaking out about :i. t . 'Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Anybody else? Mr. Ton; .Jordan: M name is Tom Jordan, I am on the Community Advisory Board and "I have been n in fvertown for about: twenty --eight years. I own a proerty that's commonly known as the Barber. College at 185-195 Northwest 14th ;street. I purchased that property about four or five years ago. The place was a completely` gutted building;, There was no electric lights, no anything, windows busted out everything totally demolished. I took about twenty thousand dollars of my money and "i built thar :into what it is today, probably the best building in the area. It has other problems and needs development, it needs a new roof and other things. Some times ago 1 went through the procedure of trying to get help for rehabilitating my building and for making my building something decent in the community and in an effort to iprove Coe community I went to New Waa.;hi.nipton Heights and asked New Washingtr;o llt i F 't si for help to Mrs, Jackie Bell... Ms. Bell, T spoke to her, I spoke to others. I went through the normal procedures, I got: no progress, totally ignored. 1 conta,:ted all kinds of people in the_ community looking for help in the community to make my building something. My building has been closed up for five with steel door.,, painted, looking decent and everything unable to develop it because i can't get assistance to rehabilitate: the building and make it into something avaluahle for the community. I. put a lot of my money in it. My father got :nagged right next to the building by peon1c in the community and is in his grave today because of that mugging. I. still have confidence in the community. i have been in. the community a long time. I refused to be chased out of the community and I will see that there is going to be improvements in the area. Now, 'i have nothing personally against Now Washington Heights or its directors or :leaders, they are a private corporation, but I would like to point out, to this Commission that the City of Miami made arrangements with these people to develop in our community and to make our community something, they finally after this Community Advisory Board took an interest in the lack of results in the community. They City Commission and the City Officials finally got some kind of audit reform going as fas as New Washington Heights and there for a period of several years they were not audited by the City Officials. The provisions of the contract that the City of Miami has with New Washington Heights was not Hntorced. Another matter I would like to bring to the attention, there is an aCfldnvIt that the City took from one of the members of New Washington Heights asking them to acknowledge that they were duly what they purported to be. I think Moses Florence made the affidavit. Members on our Advisory Board were also on New Washington Heights. Over a period of time New Washington Heights did not have an opened community involved organization, that's where the problem started developing and that's where the problems have developed with the Community Advisory Board. They want New Washington Heights to participate not for the benefits of those people on it taking salaries out, but for the benefits of the community. I have waited five years for some kind of benefits to come, I'm still waiting and when I sit down and study the capital improvement program of the City of Miami and I measure how much development and where the money is going for capital improvements in Miami and I multiply thf: quantity of money that's spent gl 128 on Southwest 8th Street on out to Lejeune Road and everything and I look at the capital improvements that the City of Miami has made in that area and I look to our area Overtown and how little has been done in that area in all these years while we wait and wait and wait and we would like to be next Mr. Mayor, but it doesn't look like there is anything constructive happening in our community. Thank you. Mayor Ferre: Alright, it's 9 o'clock now and I assume that we have now concluded with all public statements. Again, I want to tell you my opinion, I have not heard in the last hour and a half one new statement, not one. I haven't heard a thing that I haven't heard at least twenty times before and I'm reminded and I will just,father this as your area of preaching, but I'm just going to make a small incursion into that area and just tell you the story that you may have heard about the Hindu Priest who was asked what truth was and he said I will tell you a story... there were five blind men who were asked to describe an elephant and they said1well we are blind and we have never seen an elephant". So they were... the blind men were taken to an elephant and one grabbed the trunk and the other grabbed one of the tusk and the other grabbed a leg and the other grabbed the tail. And then he said you are now in touch with an elephant. Now describe an elephant. Who was right? Who was wrong? Who is telling the truth? You see, then this side says something I -see people that I respect like Dana and others, you know, going like that. That's right, that the way it is. That's the truth. And I hear this side and I hear other people that say just the opposite and then I hear.,.. I see the faces... the heads go up and down on this side and over on this side they are going like this, you see. Now, if you listen to both sides... it all depends who you are listening to as to what the truth is and isn't it maybe true that all of if or none of it is true. That all of it is partially true and that, that really has nothing to do, because what we are describing over and over again is the problem and not the, solution. And shouldn't we stop trying to dissect the problem and start trying to find the solution? I don't mean to tell you that it's been a waste of time, but it has been a waste of time and I hate to tell you this, but I don't see that we are making any progress in this. So I'm going to tell you what my opinion is in a moment, but before I do that I want to give the opportunity for the collective wisdom of the Administration to gather now and recommend to this Commission a position. Now, that the Administration wishes to recommend' and I hope we can cut through this and I. would like to perhaps cut through it in something called the Gordian Knot and you may remember how that was done. That was done with the one feld swoop with a sword that solved the Gordian puzzle and we may have to use the Gordian solution. Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to ask' Howard Gary' who has attended many meetings with members of the community to speak for the. Administration on this. Mr. Gary: I think there is three recommendations that staff, namely Nancy Bond has helped me and Dena Spillman have come` up with. Those three recommendations are first of all that we continue the CD Advisory Board as constituted and that we formalize the roles of that Board as we have discussed in those meetings. The second thing is for New.Washington Heights... for funding for New Washington Heights to continue with the understanding that staff will monitor their activities in view of the contract. For your information staff will have prepared around February 14th`or the middle of February the first quarter evaluation report which will give the City Commission as, well as the City Manager and the community some indication with regard tothe successes and failures of New Washington Heights. I really don't believe that we can make any kind of constructive comments about the successes and failures"of New Washington Heights as it relates to this years contract, -which I think we only three years and two. Third thing is, I think the gentleman we had on' board speaking to you today, Mr. Taylor from Philadelphia., Ferre: Mr. who? Bailey was his name. Gary: Bailey, ok. We should... we are recommending that we bring him back, {:.,ve him talk to the City Commission,if they so desirepwith regard to this proposal in detail and likewise have Mr, Bailey talk to New Washington Heights Board and the CD Board with regard to his proposal, because I think maybe he may beableto shine some ligh t in view of the fact that these two Boards are confronted with the same problems that were confronted in Philadelphia and then I think at that time after these occurrences have occurred,`I think the City Commission as well as with staff assistance will be able to give some further recommendations with regard to the activities in-Culmer. 129 JAt '1` 0 1560 gl Mayor Ferre: Questions from the Commission? To recap three things. (1) That the CD Board as constituted be continued and that we work the program out as recommended by staff. (2) That Washington Heights be continued funding and that February... I`didn't quite get what February 14th is all about. What happens February 14th? Mr. Plummer: The first audit report. The first quarter. Mayor Ferre: Oh, the first audit report. Mr. Gary: The first evaluation report by the Community Development staff. Mayor Ferre: And you would be reporting to this Commission on February 14th?, Mr Gary: It was 28th I think. It's for February 28th. Mayor Ferre: I see, alright. And the second... and the third recommendation is that we bring Mr. Bailey from Philadelphia have him talk to both Boards and to see if we can come to, some kind of conclusion. Now, you didn't say anything about the adoption of seven of these eight... Mr. Gary: Oh, I think two we should consider if it's proper for the City Commission to; review- - and guess this is a personal comment-- Items 1 thru 6 and instruct both Boards to adhere to those six items or suggest, that they adhere to it. The reason I say suggest because New Washington Heights is a private non-profit organization and there are certain legal limitations as to what we can direct them to do. Mayor Ferre: How about #8? Mr. Gary: I would suggest that Items 7 and 8 not be considered. Mayor Ferre: So that is your fourth recommendation is that the Commission recommend that both of these Boards adopt 1 thru 6, is that correct? Alright.. Mr. Plummer: You know, some where here... excuse me, Mr. Mayor, I got a problem. Now, Howard you brought up the point and I want to go into that point. It's been referred to here that New Washington Heights is a private organization, but what are they without City funding? Now, you know, if we can't tell New Washington Heights what this Commission wants to tell them, well what the hell are doing here? You know, as far as I am concerned and I maybe... to my knowledge New Washington Heights is not getting any other funding except from the City of Miami and you are sitting there indicating to me that I'm putting the schekels and coffers, but I can't tellthem nothing. Now, let me tell you if I have got to suggest to these people and tell these people, I see where the problem is or part of the problem. Now, if I as a Commissioner don't have the right to tell New Washington Heights what I want to tell them right or wrong I want to tell you something, I know what the next motion is. Mr. Grassier Commissioner I think that you are entirely right with regard to what you can eventually do. I think what Mr. Gary was indicating was that... Mr. Plummer:, Not eventually. Mr. Grassie: . if yot.r make a recommendation in the short run we don't have the legal ability to oblige them to do it. Now, the obvious recourse is if they do not conform with your expression of desire, then you have open to you motion #i2 and I think everybody understands that. Mr. Plummer: Well, does New Washington Heights understand that, I'm sure they do. You don't understand that sir? You are in trouble. Oh, he is not part, of the... oh, alright. Well, you know, I want to tell you contrary to my earlier remarks, you know, because I'm reading... I wasn't at the meetings. think if we can go along until the 28th of February, because I don't see any, other immediate answer. Everybody here tonight wants an immediate answer, tomorrow we are going to wake up and everything is going to be rosy and the sun is going to shine and there is going to be no more problems. Well, hell we are big boys and we know that isn't going to happen, but I don't want Mr. Gary or Mr. Manager who I have to speak to through Mr. Gary. I don't want this dialogue dropped, alright. I want it to continue between now and the 28th and I want these parties to try and to sit down and try to realize that fighting is going to be detrimental to all of you and if you force the hand of this Commission, that's going to be detrimental, because we don't want to do it. gl 130 ' � t Realizing that if both of you can get together for the good of all, you all are going to come out a lot better. So I would hope for one, this dialogue would continue, You don't go in with negative actions, go in with the actions of what's going, to be best for the overall community. I don't see any other solution this evening. I have not heard anyone offer a solution. Mayor Ferre: Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I`. would not... I would be a hypocrite if I didn't say it. I think this Commission ought to mandate the staff and both Boards to sit down with Mr. Bailey. Mayor Ferre: Mr.Who? Rev. Gibson: Bailey. I" told You that... that was all I said all night. Once you do that, if they can't cometosome common understanding, I say then let the axe fall. Very simple, the man is a man who has a success story. Now, you can tell me all that other stuff that you all have gone through here tonight and I respect you for it, I defend your right to go through it. Now, you fool around here and don't listen to me and you are going to get your money cut off. I think you ought to mandate, you ought to mandate the Administration, mandate the two Boards and make sure that the Administration brings a report back here and tell you who... which of the members of Washington Heights Board was there, which of the members of the Community Development Committee was there so that you will know who is having interest in what. Now, if you don't do that, you know what.you will come right back here (COMMENT INAUDIBLE) says that the opportunity of going to the meeting say "well, you know they didn't invite me and didn't this and this and the other". Now, if I had my way about it I_ would make a motion whereby the Administration would either do it in the pocket or get on. There won't be question about it. Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, as I understand it the motion that Mr. Plummer wants to make, seconded by Father Gibson goes something like this. That the recommendation of the staff as presented by Howard Gary tonight be accepted including and particularly emphasizing the portion in reference to Mr. Bailey meeting with both Boards as soon as possible. Is that my understanding? Mr. Plummer: Oh, you make beautiful motion. Mayor Ferre: Well, that's what I heard everybody say around here. Mr. Plummer: There is no question about that. Mayor Ferre: Howard Gary said continue the CD Board and, cooperate with `them,``: monitor, February 14th'Washington Heights, meet with Bailey and adopt 1 thru 6 of the items before us called "pact ofmutual understanding" and ask that both Boards come back and report to us as to whether or not they have adopted those those things for Mr. Plummer's edification or Gordian Knot solution. In words, the axe. Is that what I understood? Is that the form of your motion? Mr. Plummer: I got no problem with that motion. Mayor Ferre: Is that the form of the understanding that I hear? Is there further discussion on this item? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mayor Ferre: Well, we are voting right now, so there is no way we can get your question in. I will recognize You' after. Anything else from -this commission? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who icAted its adoption: MOTION NO. 80-30 A MOTION ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF AS PRESENTED BY HOWARD GARY ON THIS DATE, AND BASICALLY ENCOMPASSING THE FOLLOWING IDEAS: (1) THAT THE CITY CONTINUE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AS CONSTITUTED AND THAT THE ROLE OF SUCH BOARD BE FORMALIZED; (2) THAT THE CITY CONTINUE FUNDING 131 JAN 01 7 gl THE NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE, INC. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF WILL MONITOR THEIR ACTIVITIES PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT; (3) THAT THE CITY BRING MR. HERBERT BAILEY OF PHILADELPHIA BACK TO MIAMI TO MEET WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND/OR WITH THE OVERTOWN DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND THE NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE, INC. SO THAT HE MAY SHARE HIS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH THE MEMBERS, OF BOTH GROUPS;" (4) AND ACCEPTING ITEMS 1 THROUGH 6 AS OUTLINED IN THE FACT OF MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AGREED TO BY THE PARTIES AND REQUEST BOTH GROUPS TO ADHERE TO SAID AGREEMENT. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. 'Plummer, Jr. Commissioner (Rev.) -Theodore R. Gibson vice _mayor 'Armando Lacasa Mayor Maurice A. Ferre DISCUSSION: (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD) Mr. Plummer: I refer that issue to the City Manager to look into.it. Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else to come up before this Commission at this time on this issue? DISCUSSION ON WATSON ISLAND. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, yes. .I would like, I would like to bring up the issue if possible... I have read in the local media about Watson Island and I would like for the Manager to afford the rest of us what the hell is going on seeing as how nobody' has forward a copy to me. Mayor Ferre: A copy of what? Mr. Plummer: On anything of what I read in the paper. Mr. Grassae: Mr. Fosmoen, who has been dealing with the UDAG process to give you a report Commissioner. Mayor Ferre: M,.. Fosmoen? Mr. Plummer: First preface your remarks by telling us why we read it in the paper prior to hearing from the Administration. Mr. Fosmoen: That's where I first read it, Commissioner. Mayor Ferre: That's where what? Mr. Fosmoen: That's where I first read it. Mr. Plummer: Yes, but that's ten days ago and I still haven't seen anything from the Administration. Mr. Fosmoen: Commissioner, as far as I know Watson Island is still under consideration for funding. Now, in all likelihood it will be rolled over. It will not be funded this round. 132 gl JAN 10196Q Mayor Ferre: Let me bring you up to date because I haven't had an opportunity to do that today. Well, let's start in first place first. Mr.... he is not here now. What's his name? Eric Reider. Is Eric still around. Eric 'Reider called me on Friday--- today is Thursday--- and he said he wanted know... I guess Bill Gjebre called me subsequent to what Eric Reider wrote, that`ne naa called the information office at HUD and they had advised them that the project had been rolled over and there was a story in the Miami Herald about it. I didn't know about it on Saturday, Fosmoen didn't know about it, Grassie didn't know about it, nobody knew about it. I then started calling the White House. On Friday evening at 6:30 the Secretary of HUD Moon Landrow called me up in Vermont and he didn't know anything about it. He hadn't read the letter, hadn't read the telegram, hadn't done anything, you know... And he said "look, my daughter got married, I just got back from the holidays. I will look into it first thing Monday morning". This Monday. On Monday, I get on the phone again and I call the White House, I couldn't get Jack Watson. I talked to Jean Eichenberg.''Jean said "I'm going to look right into it". And this kept on going and tinally on Tuesday, Tuesday which was the day before yesterday I -got another call from the Secretary and finally I' got a call yesterday from the Secretary and he said "I cannot over ride my people. Bob Emery who is the Assistant Secretary for Urban Development says that there is a technical problem, that unless we get a absolute guarantee from the underwriter there is no way that this project can be approved. I have met for half an hour with former Secretary Jim Lynn who is the lawyer representing the underwriter and I` think that perhaps we may have come to a compromise which might be acceptable, but not for this time because it's too late, time has run out on this. And the compromise is that we set the perameters on interest rates and the other things that create a problem and Mr. Lynn thinks that, that would be acceptable to the underwriters and he is going to go back and check it out with them and if that's acceptable, then I' think we have solved our problem. Otherwise, the only other way you can solve this is by actually going out and selling the bonds subject to a UDAG approval and then there is no question about it, but that maybe putting the horse before the cart and you may not be able to do that". And that's where we left it last. Today, this morning the reason of was late is because I was on the phone the again with the White House about this and I' got all kinds of discussion as to how to solve this problem and I don't know how to tell you this other than I'm certainly getting enough phone calls and enough interest shown by enough people at high levels in Washington that I conclude that this is by no means dead. Now, whether or not it can be saved for this time around everyday that goes;by the likelihood is less and less and we are now in a Thursday, and today is the loth and I think the annoucements from the White House are all coming out by tomorrow and I doubt very much if we are going to be on the list, but on the other hand I'm greatly encouraged by the fact that the Secretary himself has been smack in the middle... I mean, he was on the phone with me for twenty minutes ands: that's the Secretary of Housing of the United States of America on this little program and he said "I spent more time on this little thing than I have on things that are literally worth hundreds of millions of dollars to this government and this thing, you know, I; spent more time on this in the last couple of days than I have on big things and isn't that indication of our interest". And I said "well, is that an assurance?" and he said "no, I' can't give an assurance, that's against the law, but it certainly means that you should not fold up at this time". So what else can I tell you. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question, maybe I'm overly concerned about the problem of inflation. Mayor Ferre: Of inflation? Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, very much so. Mayor Ferre: Can 1 address that point for a moment? Mr. Plummer: I don't care who addresses it. Mayor Ferre: Well, let me tell you what I told the Secretary in my discussion with him. I said "look, our application may not be now for seven million dollars, we may have to go to ten million dollars on the application because through no fault of ours this thing has been rolled over for three times and what we couldbuy for seven million dollars a year ago now cost ten and so I think our application for this go around is going to have` to be more than seven million dollars". Anything else? Ok, I assume we stand adjourned. gl 133 ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business to come before the City Commission, on motion_duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 9:22 O'Clock P.M. ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE CITY CLERK NATTY HIRAI ASSISTANT CITY CLERK gl MAURICE A. FERRE MAYOR 134 JAN 10 iCu0 CITY OF 11/MAiVII DOCUMENT INDEX DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-C 3 CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF LE JEUNE GARDENS SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5315-S 4 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A SECOND CASH PRIZE OF $2,500.00 FOR THIRD PLACE IN THE LATIN COMMUNITY RIVERFRONT PARK DESIGN COMPETITION 5 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACQUIRE TWO INDEPENDENT APPRIASALS, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A FAIR RETURN TO THE CITY FROM A POSSIBLE LEASE BY THE CITY OF THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM 6 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED BY JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT CO., INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $245,163.74 R-80-8 7 8 MEETING DATE: January 10, 1980 COMMISSION ACTION R-80-3 R.-8° -4 R -8° -6 RETRIEVAL CODE NO. 0048 R-80-3 80-4 80-6 R-80-7 80-7 ACCEPTING THE BID OF CENTRAL STATIONERS, INC FOR FURNISHING OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT FOR MULTI -DEPARTMENTAL USE. ACCEPTING THE BID OF T&N CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $499,662, BID "A" OF THE PROPOSAL 9 AUTHORIZING THE PROPER OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI TO ACCEPT THIRTY-FIVE (35) WARRANTY DEEDS AND APPROVING THE RECORDING OF SAID. DEEDS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF 'DADE COUNTY 10 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION A TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDING COMPRISED OF FOUR EFFICIENCY APART- MENTS AND TWO ROOMS ON THE FIRST FLOOR 11 AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO CARLOS M. TORRES, AS PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ESTATE OF CARLOS B. TORRES, DECEASED, AND MARIA TORRES, THE SUM OF $15,000.00 IN FULL AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY -IN., JURY, CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI AND JAMES LLOYD MABRY. 12 APPOINTING SUE McCONNELL AS LAY CITIZEN MEMBER OF.THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD • R-80-10 R-80-11 R.-8° -12 R-80-13 R-80-14 R-80-16 80-8 80-10 80-11 80-12 80-13 80-14 80-16 1111111111 1111111•111milmtm Wow— DOCUINENT•f NDEX CONTINUED 18 19 20 21 ACTION • RETRIEVAL CODE NO. DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATI ON APPOINTING 3 MEMBERS TO, THE CITY OF MIAMI PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD TO SERVE FULL TERMS THEREON APPOINTING 2 MEMBERS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI ZONING BOARD TO SERVE FULL TERMS THEREON AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI CENTER.ASSOCIATES, TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKING PROVISIONS OF THE LEASE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, INC APPOINTING COMMISSIONER JOE CAROLLO TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD OF THE MIAMI CITY GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT ` PLAN AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE CITY'S INTERAMA PROPERTY, ACCEPT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI A WARRANT FOR $8.0 MILLION IN PAYMENT THEROF. AUTHORIZING AND URGING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF DADE COUNTY, TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL POLICE PRO- TECTION AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 13, 1980, TO TAKE PLACE ON MARCH 18, 1980 RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 14, 1980, TO TAKE `PLACE ON FEBRUARY 12, 1980