HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1980-05-22 MinutesCITY OF MIAMI
COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON May 22= 1980
(PLANNING & ZONING)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
RALPH G.. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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10 ND, (PLANNING 6 ZONING) SLEW MAY 22, 1980
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tDINANCE0�SOLUTION N0. I PAGE N08
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: APPLICATION BY GORO
INVESTMENTS FOR ZONING CHANGE OF AREA BOUNDED BY
N.W. 17 STREET, N.W. 19 STREET, N.W. 14 AVENUE,
WAGNER CREEK FROM R-3 TO R-5 I ORD. 9106 1-7
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ORD. 6871 SECTION
32 OF ARTICLE IV, GENERAL PROVISIONS TO PERMIT
BROADCASTING TOWERS I FIRST READING 1 7-9
APPROVE REQUEST BY W.K.A.T. TO CONSTRUCT A
BROADCASTING TOWER ON BISCAYNE BAY NORTH OF THE
JULIA TUTTLE CAUSEWAY
R-80-392
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APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE THE ALLAPATTAH TRANSIT STATION
AREA PLAN, ANCILLARY STUDY, AREA OF ALLAPATTAH
TRANSIT STATION, N.W. 12 AVENUE AND N.W. 36TH
STREET
R-80-393
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APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE THE COCONUT GROVE TRANSIT STATIO
AREA PLAN, AN ANCILLARY STUDY TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY AT S.W.
27TH AVENUE
R-80-394
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APPLICATION BY YARDNER FOR A PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT
(PAD) FOR 123 RESIDENTIAL UNITS-1014-1090 VENETIAN
WAY.
DISCUSSION
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ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "NEW WORLD TRADE CENTER" -
SOUTHEAST 2ND STREET AND SOUTHEAST 1ST AVENUE
R-80-395
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SCHEDULING APPEAL DATE FOR CLIPPER CONDOMINIUM
ASSOCIATION IN CONNECTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF A
VARIANCE FOR WIMBLETON RACQUET CLUB
M-80-396
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a) DISCUSSION OF RELUCTANCE OF SPEAKERS TO GIVE
NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE PUBLIC RECORD; MANAGER
TO INVESTIGATE CARD SYSTEM USED, BY COUNTY
COMMISSION
b) DISCUSSION OF CITY COMMISSION POLICY IN
CONNECTION WITH APPLICATIONS FOR DRIVE-IN
TELLER FACILITIES
M-80-397
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DISCUSSION IN CONNECTION WITH THE UNLIMITED REGATTA -
SKY DIVING GROUP
DISCUSSION
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DISCUSSION IN CONNECTION WIT$ COMMISSION MEETING
DATES
DISCUSSION
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INSTRUCT TALLAHASSEE LOBBYIST TO LOBBY IN ORDER TO
SIMPLIFY D.R.I. EVALUATIONS PRESENTLY IN EFFECT.
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DEFERRAL OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BY YARDNER,
DEFERRAL
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N.V. FOR A PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT FOR 123
RESIDENTIAL UNITS-1014-1090 VENETIAN WAY.
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 22nd day of May, 19Su, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American
Drive, Miami, Florida, in regular session.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Maurice A. Ferre with the
following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
ALSO PRESENT WERE:
Joseph R. Grassie, City Manager
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Manager
George F. Knox, City Attorney
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
1. SECOND R_EA')IN?G C3:.I)INA110Er A-PPLICATION LY GORO INVFST'TP11S FOR
2011I?'G CYIAMGE OF ARLA SOUNDED BY N.W. 17 STR -JIT, N.T4. 19 STarET,
N.Tq. 14 AVEIMUE, WAG::FR CRELY: Frolll r:-3 TO R-5
Mayor Ferre: We are now ori.item number one. And ordinance, second
reading application by Goro Investments, Inc. for a change of zoning
classification bounded by t:.w. 17th and 19th Street, N.W. 14th, Wagner
Creek, N.W. 15th Avenue from R-3 to R-5. This was passed on first
reading after beinq moved by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by
Commissioner Carollo. Okay. Is there further discussion on this? Are
there any objectors that wish to be heard further on this item? How
any objectors wish to be heard on item onE•? This is the second reading.
The.only people that I will recognize is new material. Unless you -have
sbmehthing new to say, I will call you out or order. Allright, counsellor,
I will recognize you last for your statements. we've been through this
before. Unly those who are opponents with new material. All right,
Mrs. Keller. Do you understand the rules now? Because I don't want you
getting upset with me if you bring up old material. All right? You have
three minutes.
Mrs. Keller: You're a sport.
Mayor Ferre: Do you want five minutes?
Mrs. Keller: You know, I'd like to go all out and maybe get six.
Mayor Ferre: They have to only bring up new material.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Ferre: All he has to do is rebutt new material. Only new material.
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Mrs. Pat Keller: At any rate, I'm Pat Keller, President of the Allapattah
Community Association. I live at 1437 N.W. 13th Terrace. I own lots
fourteen and fifteen of Blanton Park, and Lots, thirty-four of St. Johns
Park. We are opposed, as you know, to the rezoning to the Martin Nursery
property from R-3 to R-5. We are opposed to the closing of the Streets
and alleys on that site. We want the records to reflect the following;
we have not br,en given a fair and fail.y debated hearinq. At the first
readinq we had eleven epeakers, the opposite side hail three speakers, yet
I'd like the records to reflect that we are not being_ listend to. At this
particular time, there are exactly two Commissioners present...
Mayor Ferre: Well why don't you sit down.
Mrs. Keller: ...yet the overall time slotted was the same....
Mayor Ferre: No, no. All right, I think you're entitled to hear from
at least three members of the Commission, so we'll wait until Father Gibson
gets here.
Mr. Plummer: Let the record reflect that those two were listening.
Mrs. Keller: Exactly. The two that were present were hanging on every
word, let the record reflect that.
Mr. Plummer: While we're waiting, let me just, for anybody that doesn't
know, Mr. Lacasa and Mr. Carol.lo did have an important meeting to which
they were committed. They have indicated their return at approximately
eight o'clock. I think also the Mayor would like us all to try to be out
between- eight -thirty and nine so that we could attend a very important
meeting called by the Governor. And really what I'm saying is I hope
everybody will try to be brief.
Mayor Ferre:Leslie, would you do me a favor. Would you tell Father Gibson
that we're waiting. I know he's got something important but I want him to
know.
Mrs. Keller: I think we got to the fascinating point that at the first
reading we had eleven speakers, the opposite side had three speakers. Did
I develop that point?
Father Gibson: Yes, I heard that much.
Mrs. Keller: Oh, you heard that, all right. Yet the overall time allotted
was the same thus some of our speakers had to give up their time so that
others could speak. Some were not heard such as Mrs. Wahl, who has extensive
real estate holdings in the area. It resulted in Professor Warburton not
being able to give a complete presentation. As we spoke, the Miami City
Commission let the room, spoke on the phone. As Professor Warburton spoke,
we noted that there was exactly one City Commissioner present. Please
not that this type of building is illegal. Dr. Sarkin will turn in the
actual law that has been violated in attempting to put up this building
It is illegal. As I say, he'll turn that into you in just a minute. I
wish to quote a very highly placed member of this community on this matter.
I'm going to quote him word for word. At the meeting he spoke was at the
Assisted House Task Force o£ the Sub -Committee on Housing and Urban
Development before the House of Representatives here in Miami, at a HUD
Conference on January 27, 1978, Lt;e honorable Jerry M. Patterson, Congressman
presided. He stated, "Little 11TJD manages almost ten thousand units of
public housing. We have developed a variety of approaches in housing. I
would like to describe these and make some observations about them.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Pat. I don't think it's possible that five minutes
have gone by. That must be wrong. She just started talking how can five
minutes have gone by?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mayor Ferre: Give her another three minutes.
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Mrs. Keller: Thank you, Mayor. I feel it so deeply that you're being so
kind. Thank you ever so much. I just don't know how to behave to get those
extra few minutes.
Mayor Ferre: Have I ever not been a gentleman with you?
Mrs. Keller: No, you've always been the soul of gentleman behavior.
But you're not too generous with dour votes though.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's somut}ping else.
Mrs. Keller.: I think T'd rather have the votes to tell you the truth.
We manage ... I'het you can hardly wait to know who said this but I'm going
to save that little number until last. "Ile manage five thousand six
hundred and ninety-four units of family public housing. In the early
da,,s, we like other individuals, or rather Commissions of this nature built
large projects. However, for the last fifteen years, our policy has been
to limit family developments to o scattered site approach of no more than
one hundred and fifty units in a project. All of our family projects
are cne to two stories so that we have avoided the pit -falls of hi4hrise
living for Famili.s. Tn thin way, we have built apartments, but now we
build only townhnusc•s, duplexes, or single family houses. Each family has
a front and back yard to which he is responsible, and this helps the family
development and it gives them a totter sense of privacy and concern. This
thinking of approach to family public housing has created a human scale
type of living enviornment. In other words, this individual, very highly
place in this co!rununity, who makes his liv-ing at this type of thing
wouldn't have highrise fcunily type projects. I want you to guess who it
is. At.any rate, he's Mel Adams, as you know, who is the director of
HUD here in Miami. I'm ashamed of each and every one of you if you fly
in the face of there facts. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Al right, next speaker.
Mrs. BeFsie Marcus: My name is Bessie Marcus. I live at 1452 N.W. 15th Avenue.
Although this is a letter I addressed to Mr. Carollo, I think it's very
pertinent. And this is addressod...I think I wrote a letter to you and
Commissioner c'arn:lo. I wish to call to your attention... this is to
Commissioner Carollo, a remark you made at the April 24th, City Commission
session during the Flrii,ning and Zoning Agenda. The following statement
you utt•ared was uncalled for and certainly not fitting for a public official.
Here is the statement that Commissioner Carollo uttered. "Will the Cuban
haters and the racist come up to speak." Now this is what he said. He
made this remark after the presentations for and against the change of
zoning from F-3 to R-5, rc_auested by the Goro Investment Company in order
to permit them to build a nineteen story building for low income families,
with Federal support. It was during the interval when the rebuttals were
in order that you made the above statement. At no time during the
presentation, pro and con, the zoning issue were statements made that
indicated C.7ban ?late or racial slurs. Had you listened attentively
to the speakers whc, were opposed to the R-5 zoning, you would have been
aware that their opposition was not based rn low income federally financed
building in an R-3 zoriing, lout: to the problems resulting from high
density. Their research and their slides showed the disasterious results
of this type: of housing which had been tried and abandoned in many cities
because it did not suit low income family living. Your remark was
libelous and demeaning and reflected an attitude on your part that does
not inspire trust. You owe the audience an apology, and one to the public
in general, respe ct.fally. And to Mayor Ferre;,I enclose this letter and
then T said, the content of that letter contains my complaint. Is there
a list of conduct rules for Commissioners and in general for public electee
officials. If so, could you please acquaint Commissioner Carollo with
these rules. His remark was shocking and indicated political immaturity.
Can you help and keep his foot out of his mouth. Now, P.S. has the
City Commission in its favorable vote to have the R-3 zoning changed to
R-5, high density, in order to permit the investment company to erect a
one hundred and ninety-five apartment building in the Civic Center area
for low income families considered finding out what amenities this
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Mrs. Marcus (continued): realty company will provide the tenants for
quality living? What safeguards will be provided to prevent problems
that have resulted from such density of housing in other cities? By
amenities, I mean ample play areas, security measures to safeguard the
elevator, the halls and the building in general. Also, sufficient parking
space. The downfall. of this kind of housing in other cities has been
due to the lack of such amenities. Has the City Commission investigated
this area before arriving at its conclusions? That's all.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mrs. 'larcus. Next speaY.er, please.
Mrs. Georgine Wahl: Good evenin;, gentlemen. I believe that since
we met the last time on this proposed change from R-3 to R-5 circumstances
have been drastically altered, unfortunately, for a lot of us and for
the City of Miami. I believe this zoning was based on the fact that
there was no .land available. That this was about one of the few available
sites in Miami. Pardon me?
Mayor Ferre: I was saying, I hope you're not going to say what I think
you're going to say, but go ahead.
Mrs. Wahl: All right. Well you must admit, Mayor, that we do have a lot
more sites available today. And based on the fact that there were no
alternative sites....
Mayor Ferre: You don't really mean that do you?
Mrs. Wahl: Pardon me?
Mayor Ferre: We have a lot more sites available because there was some
burning, is that what you mean?
Mrs. Wahl: Yes, there are a great many sites. Downtown Miami needs to
be rebuilt,•not developed.
Mayor Ferre: I see.
Mrs. Hirai: Excuse me, ma'am. Your name and address for the record,
please.
Mrs. Wahl: Georgine Wahl. 1515 N.w. 18th Avenue ... N.W. 18th Street,
excuse me. Because right now you're putting one hundred and ninety-five
units, nineteen stories high, on a little over two acres is really inviting
disaster. You know, that's approximately two thousand men, women and
children in that space? Potentially. Also, I'm going to go back, you're
cutting off, I'm going to address myself to Reverend Gibson, you're cutting
off our five hundred and thrity-nine lineal feet on Wagner Creek. Why
the special considerations for changing this zoning no longer exist,
gentlemen, and I ask you to reconsider.
Mayor Ferret All right, next speaker, please.
Dr. Rubin Sarkin: My name is Dr. Rubin Sarkin, a retired physician who has
some interest in this ground adjacent to where the rezoning has occurred.
The important facts that we bring to your attention is that, why is this
Commission sponsoring a project which has failed all over the world.
Not only in the Orient, in Europe and all the major cities of the United
States, yet you gentleman tonight have it wifhin your hands to sanction
this or to disallow it. Why you're taking this risk with rovernment
money and the future of downtown Miami. We, however,,feel that a
compromise could be worked out which would have a greater degree of
success if you would allow a senior citizens home to be built on this
site. Nineteen stories goes better with senior citizens rather than
with families. The main premise here is how can a mother nineteen
stories, in a concrete apartment, watch her, child playing downstairs below
in congested area, with traffic, with a creek, with all the dangers of
the street that we find in Miami today. Miami is no longer a peace city, it
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Dr. Sarkin (continued): is a City of strife and you have to watch out
for your young ones. And you certainly can't watch out for a child when
you are nineteen stories hiqh. This has croated frustration in the
parents, and particularly in the. mother. She's afraid to let the child
out so she kc-ps the child locked u1- in the apartment watching
television. T7ow this situation has come to the attention of the United
States Congress that they passed a law which states that there shall be
no hi(?hrises for low -)st families unless there is no practical alternative.
And we, the opp-o-,ition, mair;t air, that there is plenty of alternatives
available in the City of "',,imi. This; is not Chicago, it is not New York.
There is pier ty of c;reE:n space and open land to build lower housing A
further factor, it; by closi_nq off the streets, you prevent patrol cars
from enterinq the area which increases the risk of crime. And according
to autbo—ities, the higher the building, the greater the crime. And finally,
let me say to ynu commissioners, how many of you would want to raise your
family in s�rch a structure? You would come home at night and find that
your wif_, was depressed and frustrated becau=e she doesn't know where her
child is. That his wife or daugher might be raped in the hallways and
the stairs, or your teenager might he smokinq marijuana with the gang
in the stairway, and the possihi.lity that you could be mugged in the
elevator. All these factors you say cannot happen here. Well, we saw
it hai>per, last week and I certainly hope you will deeply consider this,
and if you vote in favor of it, I invite you to come back here to this
site fifteen years from now and watch them blow up this building as
they did in Chicago and St. Louis, and Atlanta because they found it
doesn't work.
Mayor Ferre: Next speaker. Any other speakers? All right, counsellor,
you've.got ten minutes? Will ten minutes do? That's less than they took
but...
Mr. Traurig: Three minutes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Keep it to the subjects that they...
Mr. Robert Traurig: You advised us to speak only on new subject matter.
We really have nothing new...
Mayor Ferre: You can rebutt any of the statements that were made.
Mr. Traurig: I would merely like to recall to the Commissions attention
that we were encouraged by the City administration to seek a site in
this area because of the advantageous locations, vis a vis, the Civic
Center. This was recommended to you by your Planning Department. It
was recommended to you by the Zoniriq Board, and Dena Spillman spoke to you
very articulately about the outstanding program that would be developed on
this site to serve in this general community. I would merely call to
your attention that the need for housing exists in the Civic Center. This
conforms to the area study, it conforms to the station area design studies
of the Mass Transit of. the County, that the R-5 is consistent with the
zoning immediately to the East, and that the Commission unanimously
approved this after about a two hour public hearing. We think that in
view of the fact that you are fully advised regarding all of the factors
"here, that to add anything would be redundant, and therefore, we urge
that you uphold the action which you took in approving this on first reading,
and that you approve it on second reading, thank you.
Mrs. Keller: If I may... "
Mayor Ferre: Not really, but I'll let you, quickly.
Mrs. Keller: 1'd like to correct Mr. Traurig, if I may. This was not
recommended by the Zoning Board. I've also taken the trouble to find
out about your Planning Department. Of course, none of them live in the
Civic Center. I found that Dena Spillman who heartedly recommended it
lives in Kendall. I can go on, and on. I don't see their names in the
phone book sq here to we have a situation of people that don't live in
the area very _ telling us what to do. Let the record reflect the
Zoning Board did not okay this project and change of. zoning.
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Mayor Ferre: Anything else, Mr. Traurig?
Mr. Traurig: No.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion?
Mr. George Perez: I just want to add that the opposition has already...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, who is George?
Mr. Perez: I'm sorry. My name is George Perez and I'm from the Housing Company.
The opposition has
already gone to Jacksonville and Jacksonville is now preparing a statement
strongly endorsing the project inspite of all the opposition.
Mayor Ferre: Further statement? Questions from the Commission?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Ferre: The question from the audience is who is the other developer.
Mr. Perez: No, I said we were the developers.
Mayor Ferre: The developers.
Mr. Perez: No, I said we were the developers.
Mayor Ferre;. The developers.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mr. Perez: We ... I don't know of ... we have an arrangement with the present
owners of the property. But we will be the developers, the managers
and we will remain as the general partners of the property.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further discussion? All right, questions from
the members of the Commission? Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't remember who made the statement, and I'm
not going to touch some of the statements that were made. One of the
statements that were made was that things have changed radically since
our last meeting. And I guess I take a one eighty view of that statement
because the inference is that to the negative. But I think it's to the
positive. And if anything_ that has been brought out since the last hearing
is the great and crying need in this community for housing. And housing
for people that they can afford. There is always danger in any multi -family
complex and those dangers always and mostly have have to be addressed. And
I think that at this point, Little HUD has done an excellent job of that
problem. Mr. Mayor, I have heard nothing here this evening to change my
mind from the former meeting, and I move to uphold the first reading?
That's not proper. The action of the first meeting.
Mr. Grassie: Approve it on second reading.
Mr. Plummer: Approve it on,second reading.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion for approval....
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: ...there is a second by Gibson.
the roll on item one. Read the ordinance.
Further discussion? Call
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN ORDINANCE AMXNDTNG ORDINANCE NO. 6871, THE
COMPREHENSIVE: ";ONTNG ORDINANCE OF 'ITM, CITY OF
MIAMI, BY CiiA 1, Iyr, THY ZONING CLASSIFICATION
OF LOTS 1, 2, 3, 4, 47, (3-61) AND 49; BLOCK
4; BRADDOCK S11I1 NO. 4 ( 3-61 ) AND TENTATIVE
PLAT NO. 1.07� "VI NA,;O SUB", AR:IN , THE AREA
BOUND BY P()RTI1VT%ST 1 "T'H STRI;I:T, NORTHWEST 19TH
STREET, NORTHWF,ST 14'PH AVT.:I4RJE, WAGNER CREEK,
AND NORTiIWF.ST 15TII AVENUE, FROM R-3 (LOW DENSITY
MULTIPLE) TO R-5 (HI(-,H DENSITY MULTIPLE), AND
BY MAYING THE NECESSARY CIIAI4GES IN THE ZONING
DISTRICT MAP MADE A PART OF SAID ORDINANCE
NO. 6E371 BY R1;FERENCF AND DESCRIPTION IN
ARTICLE; III, SECTION 2, THEREOF; BY REPEALING
ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS, OR PARTS THEREOF
IN CONFLICT; A14D CONTAINING A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of April 24, 1980
was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Commissioner. Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the
ordinance was thereupon given it's second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner _r. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9106
The City Attorney rea-1 the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and to the public.
FIRST R.ADING ORDINANCF: POIEI•ID ORD. 6971 SECTION 32 of A_2'TICLE IV,
2. GEI•TEf'AAL PROVISIONS TO PERMIT BROADCAS^_ IG TOI+?ERS
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Mayor Ferre: We're on item two, ordinance first reading, Planning
Department application. Amend Ordinance 6871 to permit broadcasting
towers to be located in any zoning district upon ro-commendation of the
Planning Advisory Board and approval of the City -Commission. Now, the
Planning Advisory Board recommended it seven 'tb zero. I assume that the
administration concurs with this?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir. The Planning Department recommends...
Mayor Ferre: There are no objectors. Are there any objectors present
at this time? All right, hearing none...
Mr. Plummer: Well Mr. Mayor, unless the department convinces me, I'm
in opposition. I have great...
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Mayor Ferre: All right, then we'll wait until we have a full
Commission.
Mr. Plummer: I just want to bring out that I don't think I can live, that
a broadcasting tower can be in any residential location.
Mr. Whipple: Commissioner Plummer, if I may correct that notice...
Mayor Ferre: No, no, no, no, no. You're out of order.
Mr. Whipple: Well the notice is misstated.
Mayor Ferre: The what? What do you mean the notice is mistaken? I beg
your pardon? Go ahead.
Mr. Whipple: The notice is a mis-statement based upon what the Planning
Advisory Board recommended as a modification to the Department's original
proposal. It is not ... it can be located in any district subject to
certain provisions. These provisions, I believe the resolution will
reflect this, towers when located on publicly owned land, publicly owned
land, and located at least twenty-five hundred feet from any residential
development. In other words, it's not in any district per se. That's
the way it was written originally. But the amendment recommended by
the Planning Advisory Board and by the department contains those
conditions which modifies the general agenda description that you have
before you.
Mayor Ferre: Well, as I understand it, the real, the whole thing here is
to put these things out in the water. Isn't that the real thing that
everybody is after?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir. There was a request that came before the Department
to locate a broadcasting tower in Biscayne Bay. There are no provisions
in the existing zoning ordinance...
Mayor Ferre: I've got no problem...
Mr. Whipple: ...which would even allow consideration. This modification
would allow that consideration subject to board approval and City
Commission approval, with these limitations and conditions attached.
Mayor Ferre: Well what you're saying is that it wouldn't be in R-1,
in residential areas?
Mr. Plummer: NO. Could be, but it's got to be twenty-five hundred feet
from a house.
Mr. Whipple: And it has to be on publicly owned land, twenty-five hundred
feet.
M$iyor Ferre:. Is there any such piece of property anywhere within the
boundaries of the City of Miami?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir. Biscayne Bay which is automatically zoned R-1
by the provisions of the zoning ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: I see. Okay, I got you. Okay, do you have any problems
with this now?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody have any problems with it, wants to speak against
it? Okay, is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
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Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Gibson. Further discussion? Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCF J2FCOMMF?NDING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT
TO THE C()�,PPF-HFNSIVL ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 6871, BY
DELETING SECTION 32, ARTICLE IV IN ITS ENTIRETY AND
IN LIEU THEREOF SUBSTITUTE A NEW SECTION 32, TO READ
AS FOLLOWS: "PUBLIC i'TTI,TTIES" STRUCTURES OR USES
REQUIRED FOR SUCH PUBI,TC_ UTILITTF.S (PRIVATELY OWNED
AND OPERATED) AS (-,AS, ELECTRIC, TF.LFPHONE AND
COMMUNICATIONS BROADCASTING TOWERS WHEN LOCATED ON
PUBLICALLY OWNED LAND AND LOCATED AT LEAST 2500 FEET
FROM ANY RFSTDFNTIAL DEVELOPMENT, CAN BE LOCATED
WITHIN ANY DTSTRTCT, WHERE NOT SPECIFICALLY PRESCRIBED
AND LISTED, UPON RFCOMMF'NDATION OF THE PLANNING
ADVISC)RY BOARD AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY COMMISSION
MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT
MAP MADE A PAPT OF SAID ORDINANCE NO. 6871 BY
REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE III, SECTION
2, THEREOF- BY RF.PEALINq ALL ORDINANCES, CODE SECTIONS
OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT AND CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY PROVISION
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
ABSTAINING: None
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
3. APPROV^ REQUEST BY W.K.A.T. TO CONSTRUCT A BROADCASTING TOWER
'OIJ BISCAY1TE BAY NORTH OF TF?E JULIA TUTTLE CAUSEWAY
Mayor Ferre: All right, we're now on item number three. A resolution
requested by W.K.A.T. to construct a broadcast tower. The department
recommended, the Advisory Board recommended seven to zero. Are there any
objectors present? All right, is there a motion?
Father Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Questions.
Mr. Plummer: Is the applicant here?
Mr. Philip Austindorf: My name is Philip Austindorf. I'm an architect
and engineer for W.K.A.T. I'll try to answer any questions you may have.
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Mr. Plummer: Nine hundred feet high.
Mr. Austindorf: No, incorrect. Four hundred and fifty.
Mr. Whipple: Nine hundred feet square...
Mr. Austindorf: Nine hundred foot square site.
Mayor Ferre: Who does the land belong to? The State of Florida?
Mr. Austindorf: I believe the Department of Transportation holds title
to it. I...
Mr. Plummer: The tower will be four hundred feet high?
Mr. Austindorf: Four hundred fifty.
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, four fifty high. How far will the base of it
be from the bridge or the land area?
Mr. Austindorf: If my memory serves me correctly, about one hundred and
ninety feet. We're planning equilateral, triangle guying. Two of
the guys will be on the shore line. The third guy will be outboard
from the tower. It will be approximately five hundred feet from the
shore line. The anchor for the third guy. The tower is approximately
one hundred and ninety.
Mr. Plummer: Did you move it, Father?
Father Gibson: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion by who? By Plummer, second
By Gibson.
Mr. Plummer: The other way around.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion on item three? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-392
A RESOLUTION GRANTING APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A
BROADCASTING TOWER AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS PER
PLANS ON FILE, ON A PORTION OF BISCAYNE BAY, LOACATED
ON,THE NORTH SIDE OF THE JULIA TUTTLE CAUSEWAY (I-95)
AND'EXTENDING TO 900' EAST OF THE. EAST END OF THE
FIXED BRIDGE, APPROXIMATELY 4,000' EAST OF THE
MAINLAND - UNPLATTED, IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PROPOSED
AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE IV, SECTION 32, OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE 6871
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in
the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:.
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.MAY 2 21980
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AYESt Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
4. APPROVE I'I PRITCIPLE TIIF ALIAPATTAH TRANSIT STATION Arf7lp. PLAN,
ANCILLARY STL ,Y , AREA OF U,LAPA"ITAH 'T'P.AIISIT STATION, N.W. 12 AVENUE
A:ID II. W. 36TH STREET
Mayor Ferre: Take up item four. A resolution, Planning Department
application, approval in principle of the Allapattah Area Transit
Station Flan, N.W. 12th Avenue and 36th Street. The Planning Advisory
Board recommended five to zero. Are there any objectors here? Anybody
here object to the Allapattah Transit...
Mr. Plummer: 'I move it.
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, it's moved by Plummer, second by Gibson. Further
discussion on item four? Any objectors? Anybody who wants to talk about it?
Okay, seeing none, hearing none...
Mr. Plummer: Well let me, just for the record, now, I am assuming that the
people of the area have been met with, have been explained to, and that is
the reason that there is no one here who felt to the contrary. Is that
correct?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER.: Correct. I'll be explaining those details soon.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir. I really don't want you to, if you'll just tell me
your name on the record.
Mr. Carl (NA}li. UNINTELLIGIBLE): My name is Carl I'm the
Allapattah Station Area Planner.
Mr. Plummer: Carl, there is an old thing about appearing before the
Commission. You never have to eat words you don't say. If you're not
asked, don't.say and quit while you're ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Moved by Plummer seconded by Gibson.
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-393 "
A RESOI.LITIO14 RECOMMENDING IN PRINCIPLE THE ALIkAPATTAH
TRANSIT STATION AREA PLAN, AN ANCILLARY STUDY TO THE
MIAMI COMPREEENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, AS PER EXHIBIT
"A" ATTACHED HERETO
(Here follows hn•3y of resoluti:.-. omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
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MAY 2 21n80
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson ON
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None =
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
5. APPROVE IM PRINCIPLE THE COCOt1UT GROV : �'RA'ISI'r STATIO^1 P.R_-A PLP.11,
AN ANCILLAnY STUDY TO Ti'.I; C0I'.PRFH!,NSTV,7 '11'.IGIB0RIIOOD PLPjl,
SOUTH DIXIE HTGHWnY AT S.W. 27th AVENUE
Mayor Ferre: Take up item five. Same thing for Coconut Grove. Is there
anybody here that wants to discuss the Coconut Grove Station? Objectors?
Proponents?.
Father Gibson: Move.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Gibson moves, Plummer seconds. Further discussion?
Mr. Plummer: wait a minute, I'm sorry. There is a man who raised his
hand.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Ferre: Sure, come up to the microphone. Your name and address, for
the record.
Mr. Robert Usherson: My name is Robert Usherson, 2923 S.W. 27th Lane.
I have no objection to the plan. I think it's fine, I think the staff
did a good job. I would just like to propose that you, the City not
initiate the rezonings in the station area until there is some indication
that the area is in fact ready to redevelop, as the plan proposes.
Mr. Plummer: It will take that long easily.
Mr: Userson: I beg your pardon?
Mr. Plummer: it will take that long easily.
Mayor Ferre: My guess is that of five of'us on this.Commission, there
will only be one left when that comes around for a vote. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by'Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 80-394
A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING IN PRINCIPLE THE COCONUT
GROVE TRANSIT STATION AREA PLAN, CONCERNING THE
AREA IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO THE COCONUT GROVE
TRANSIT STATION AT SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY AND SOUTH-
WEST 27TH AVENUE
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adoptod by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferrer Take up item six, an application by Yardner, N.V. for a
planned area development on Venetian Way. The Planning Department
recommended approval in accord with the plans on file, and with the
recommendation of the Urban Development Review Board. The Zoning Board
recorui;ended seven to zero. Six objectors by mail, six replies in favor
by mail. Are there any objectors here? Are there any objectors that
want to be heard. All right, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: I would just like to go back, Mr. Reid, and to the members
of your department. In all jest, what I have just said, I think goes a
long way tc shc,w and to say what I think this Commission has been trying
to infer for some time. And I hope it's a trend, that when you, the
Department, go into the community and fully understand, with the people
what is going to he done, and do your job properly, I think it alleviates
a lot of problems for this Commission. Because as you know, and we know,
many times inflamed citizens who come before this Commission are not
informed. And I think that when you inform the people...
(INAUDIBLE CO'T,IENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mr. Plummer: You're not objecting.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No I'm not..
Mr. Plummer: Then they did their job. And that's what I'm trying to say.
It's a compliment to the Department.
Mr. Jim Reid: I'd like to read into the record the staff that deserve
that compliment, Jack Luft, who is heading up that team, and Joyce Meyers
who worked on the Coconut Grove Plan.
Mr. Jack Luft: Mr. Mayor, and Commission, I'd like to acknowledge the
assistance of Mrs. Irene Sapp, who is Co-chairman of the Allapattah
Committe, worked very hard to bring the people to that meeting and gain
their support. And I'd like to acknowledge that.
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Mayor Ferre: Irene, our thanks to you from the members of this Commission
for your diligence and your interest. Thank you.
Mrs. Irene Sapp: My address is 1244 N.W. 39t.h Street. I've been there since
1953. A might long time. If anybody told me that the neighborhood
was going to change like it has, I would have told them that they have
rocks in their heads. But since the Airport Fxpressway went up, Allapattah
has gone down -hill. It has never built up since then and it is drastically
getting worse and worse and we do need a change in that area very much,
and I would like to see that change. And too had there wasn't more people
in that area that didn't come down here and view their points. And not
only that, my house, from one year after another has been broken into.
The last time it was broken into was in March when we had that first
rainy season. I had gone to my church on about 135th Street Northeast
between 6th and 7th Avenue, Holy Cross Lutheren Church. And when I came
back home, they couldn't get in the house so they broke the slat on the...
they didn't break it but they moved the slat from the jalousied door. And
then they pushed the screen in and then the door itsel", that goes into
the living -room, that was broken,the window above it was broken. They reached
down and opened up the door., and you would have ihclught a hurricane came
into that section in my house. And first they say they are yoinq to take
my property then they say they aren't, then they are, then they aren't
I wish they would take my property so I can get out of there. T'm the only
white woman in that area but I'm glad for this here change of scenery
in there. And I do like the scene more, up -hill on that area. It needs
it and the people in there need more of a shopping district. There's only
one grocery store in Allapattah and that's on 18th Avenue between 34th
and 35th Street, Northwest. And it's a shame that we don't have more
shopping there for the people in that. area, and more grocery stores
for the people to do the shopping. And if there was more places that
and put a lot of people in that area back to work and there wouldn't
be so much looting and breaking into people's property. I thank you..
6. A.PPLICATIOII BY YN ZD'IFR FOR A PLAT NFD 0EVFLOP!.FP7 (PAD) For
123 F,ESIDENTIAL IJ11IITS-1014-1090 VF'T'FTIAN? WAY
Mr. Robert Traurig: Mr. Mayor, gentlemen, for the record, my name is
Robert H. Traurig. I'm an attorney with offices at 1401 Brickell Avenue
and I represent Yardner, N.V., which is the owner of this property at
1014-60 Venetian Way on which the zoning is presently R-4. In order
fox you to orient yourselves properly with regard to this project I'd
like to pass out to you some photographs showing the existing improvements
on the site, which you will recognize as being some small apartment
houses that were constructed just after World War II.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Traurig, did you say improvements?
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Plummer, that's part of out argument. We think that
they are, that the site has been poorly developed, as would indicatea by
the aerial photograph, that it's really in the best interest of the
community to replace the existing improvements, which have one hundred
and ten units at the present time,with something which is new and modern
and exiciting. What we propose to do in a PAD...
Mayor Ferre: Counsellor, before you go further, are you sure you don't
want a full Commission here?
Mr. Traurig: No, sir. I'm prepared to proceed in the existing Commission.
I have full confidence in all of the members of this Commission, regardless
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Mr. Traurig (continued): of whether there's a full Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Are you sure?
Mr. Traurig: Yes, sir. Unless there is someone on the Commission who
would like to say something to me by which my assurance might be a
little bit...
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm not overly disposed, looking at this project, to
be in favor of it. And I just want to tel.l you this right off the bat.
Perhaps you might want, to have a full Commission here before... because
I'll tell you, unless you're goinq to do.an awful lot of convincing,
I don't. think I'm voting with this one. I'm just telling you right off, you
know, from the top of my head, right out front so that you don't have any...
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Ptayor, in the light of your comments, I would like the
opportunity to have a full Commission and I regret...I know from what Mr.
Plummer said before the meeting began...
Mayor Ferre: I have to be fair, I have to be fair.
Mr. Traurig: ...that you have other commitments tonight and I don't want
to...
Mayor Ferre: I have to be fair to you. I have to let you know, you know,
I want to say from here...
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question.
Mr. Traurig: I think that when you hear the presentation that perhaps
initial impressions will probably be changed. But that's, I would
prefer to wait for other Commissioners to arrive.
Mayor Ferre: Well lets take up item seven.
Mi. Plummer: Let me ask a question, Mr. Mayor. These two people have
indicated opposition. Ts there anyone else here in opposition? Mr. Mayor,
in the interest of fairness to Mr. Traurig, I would suggest, unless
it does you great harm, Mr. Trauriq, that this matter be deferred. Let
me tell you why. These other two of the nature who said they would return
at eight, but they happen to be like the Mayor in their time -piece, in their
time -piece, which mear:s that they will probably be back about eight -thirty.
I have already indicated to you and to others, that I think it is very
important, at l ist 1 ft:;el that way and T plan on walking out this door
at right-t'iirty to yo to the meeting called by the Governor for the
very important ressnns of this community. And T strongly suggest that
you don't went t�', be rushed, and I don't want to rush you. But I want
you to know, ;r. Trauriq, that at eight -thirty I'm walking out this door
because when I set my priorities, that meeting is number one, and I want
you to know that. Okay? So you do what you want. I put you on record,
we're putting all the cards on top of the table, you take if from there,
sir.
Mr. Traurig: Okay. May I ask this? Whether or not these people who
were kind enough to attend,.whether they would like'to make their
objections known at this time, and then I can follow up with our
presentation ... no, I think that would be unfair to you since I requested
the others to be present. I apologize.
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7. ACCEPT PLAT E: 'TITLED "FE11 WORLD TRADE CEAJTEn"-SOUT'irAST 2nd STREET
AND SOUTHEAST 1ST AVETTE
Mayor Ferre: Okay, we're now on item number nine, accepting a plat...
nine is on, right? World Trade Center. Are there any objectors, any
problems? Is there a motion on accepting that plat?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer, seconded by Gibson. Further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-395
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED WORLD TRADE
CENTER, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI: AND
ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE
CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commission Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
8:. SCHEDULING APPEAL DATE FOR CLIPPER CONIDOHIPIIUM ASSOCIATION IN
CONNECTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF A VARIA110E FOR WIA!BL^TON
RACQUET CLUB
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Grassie and members of the Commission, I've got a letter
here from the Wimbleton Racquet Club. Are you aware of that case?
Mr. Grassie: I have not seen the letter, sir.
Mr. Perez: We are aware, sir.
Mayor Ferre: This is a letter signed by George F. Paparinia, Chairman of
the Board of Paparinia Construction, of the Wimbleton Racquet Club.
Babically, what they said is that this matter went before the board...
well, I'll read it. As you are aware, we are the general contractors
for Wimbleton Racquet which is contingous to the Palm Bay. On April 22nd,
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Mayor Ferre (continued): the owner requested a variance from the
Planning and Zoning Advisory Board. The variance, in essence, requested
that the entire buiLlirnq be raised three feet, six :inches. The vote on
this matter wa,• seven in favor and none a^ainst. It is worthy to know
that the Northeast ASsnciat.ion rctre�;ented by Mrs. Grace Rockafellar was
present and indi,_iited that thi Assoc-iation was, very much in favor of
granting the variance. ATi appeal to this decision was requested by certain
members of the c'lipi)er nn tht' R�iy Association. This Association wanted
assurance that this chrinacr iop to the W_ir1111c,t,rin Racquet Club would
not in any way if`ort- thr-ii prni;. rty. It is my understardinc that our
COnSlll t lnEj an(9 �tl•' E211,jaQ'.'d 1�`: them have tj1VE.il them. the
requested asi.ur.rr c r s. liowt?vel , Lo date, the party ohjectinq to the variance
has not rescin(ied their. appeal in writing. As the situation stands,
the appeal i,, s: h-duled to lie },card before the City Commission on June
26th. The pair}'(—r. -)f this letter is to request that this appeal be
heard by the Conarnissi.on on June the 5th. Time is of the essence to us
in this matter, since we cannot_ wait until June 26 for a decision without
having a la%--c)ff of a ,uhstantial number of workmen. I hate to bother you
with this matter in view of all the problems that the City of Miami is
having, b.:t I wouic r reatly appr-eciate anything to reschedule this
hearing to June Sth. For your information and use, Ti enclose the
following doc•umerits, minutes of the meeting and two appeals filed by the
Clipper on the Ray Condominium Associa'ion." The request is, since he's
got an organization and men on the payroll, the whole thing, would we be
so kind as to accelerate from Jur.e 26t.h to June 5th. I told him I would
bring it up before the Commission. Can this Commission accelerate by a vote
of the majority?
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, within the time constraint that we work, when this
appeal was received, which was made by the Clipper Condominium Association...
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Perez: ...the time constraint under which we were working, puts this
on the agenda of the Commission on the 26th.
Mayor Ferre: That was not my question.
Mr. Perez: Now, your question is if it can go on the 6th? We have an
advertising problem that we cannot meet.
Mayor Ferre: what are the advertising problems?
Mr. Perez: We have to advertise the appeal.
Mayor Ferre: How many days...
Mr. Perez: Pardon me, we don't have to advertise, we have to send letters
to all property owners of record etc.
Mayor Ferre:',How many days ahead?
Mr. Perez: At least ten days prior to...
Mayor Ferre: All right, ten days...
Mr. Perez: ...and then the agenda... excuse me, this agenda is set by the
City Manager and I haven't discussed that•issue with the City Manager.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Today is the 22nd. Is that correct?
Mr. Perez: That is correct. ,
Mayor Ferre; we have fourteen, working days ... all right, fifteen days and
ten working days. Now is there any reason why that couldrrt be
advertised tomor,ow? Look, let nne put it to you this way. The State of
Florida, the government around here and Metropolitan Dade County, sponsored
by the Chamber of Commerce are pressing for this one stop building permit
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Mayor Ferre (continued): thing, you know. Where we get away from all
this red tape. Now here is a guy who has your backing, the backing
of the Zoning Board, was it zoning or planning?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Both
Mayor Ferre: Seven to zero, seven to zero, okay? So evidently the thing
is all systems go. They've got people that are employeed and for some
damn technicality, because we can't get a letter out, you're going to hold
these people up from the 6th to the 26th. I don't buy that. Now, you say
you have to advertise ten days before. All right?
Mr. Perez: It's not advertising, it's sending ... and I stand corrected on that,
it is notifying property owners within three hundred and seventy-five feet...
Mayor Ferre: You've got fourteen days. I move you, sir, that the matter
of the Wimbleton Racquet Club, Paparinia Construction Company, coming
up before the Commission on the 26th, be mailed tomorrow to the adjoining
property owners and that it be brought to be heard on the 6th day of June.
Mr. Perez: We will do our best on that, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, you didn't hear the Mayor. You will do it.
Mr. Perez: And we will do our best.
Mayor Ferre: That's a motion.
Mr. Plummer: Second:
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-396
A MOTION THAT THE APPEAL BY THE CLIPPER CONDOMINIUM
ASSOCIATION OF A ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATION FOR
APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE FOR WIMBLETON RACQUET CLUB
BE HEARD ON JUNE 6, 1980 AND THAT ALL APPROPRIATE
NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS BE SENT IN TIME FOR SAID
HEARING
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore t. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT:
ON ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa '
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, on the record, --go you don't have any
misunderstanding. You keep the time, okay, and you keep...you send this
by telegram, and you charge Paparinia. You call Paparinia
tomorrow and you tell him that he's paying for the City'e employee
time and the telegrams. The City shouldn't go out for any expense.
We're doing him a favor. We charge him for it. I've got no problem
with that. I vote yes.
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9. a. DISCUSSIOV OF PJJ,UCTAt'CF OF SPFN I.RS TO CIVr TIAM7 MT) ?ADDRESS
ON THE 117PT TC RT'CC!RD; M7"ACI"Z 7� I"Pll;r, i'I F.^L; CAT�D SYSTEM
USI?D 13Y CO PT'ITY CO'1711�-_SI011
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me trip; .ip a subject while we're waiting
until eight. o'rl?ck. I'm a l i tt lc ; c>r,r_,:. r,ed, and this has nothing
to do with any itk�m 1,t_re this rvuninq. Mr. Mayor, Metropolitan Dade
County, when you al)l,ear there and a nurnher of other commissions that I've
appeared at, have a system of a card that you fill out. I'm concerned
of the reluctance of :,ome, mostly females, and I'm sure single females,
have a reluctarcu to speak before this Commission for fear of having
to give their t,om(- addres. I wonder i` we woul(ln't be smart to look into
the system that is used. It is also a good rotation for speakers, of
everybody just jumpirig up. They fill. out cards, f.or people who want to
speak. The,,, put their name on that card, their address, and what item
they are speaking on, and I think that Mr.. Grassie, you should 'look into
that matter so that no one is hesitant to speak before this Commission.
I do feel that there is some that are hesitant to speak because of that,
and I think it would be a good thine, not only for those people, but
I think it wcnil:l be Erood for this Commission to have a good, organized
way of sneakers. And that applies to the Commission matters as well as
zoning matters.
Mr. Grassie: Commissioner, we can have that in practice for your next
meeting. It will require the support of the City Commission. In other
words, if we're going to make people do that, you're going to have to
support the ilea.
Mr. Plummery Mr, Grassie, I would say, sir, in a matter of educating
the public as well as educating the Commission. I think where we both
realize that it's for both our good, that we would learn and want to
get educated. We're bringing up other things, Mr. Mayor. To the
department, something tells me, in the back of my mind, that I made a
motion some time ago that all future applications for drive-in tellers
of banks were to be brought: before the Commission.
Mr. Whipple: I'm sorry, Commissioner Plummer, I don't recollect that.
We did make drive-in tellers a conditional use in all districts so...
Mr. Plummer: So doesn't that as a conditional use have to come before this
Commission?
Mr. Whipple: t.o, sir, the 'Zoning Board has final. authority, or quasi-
judicial. authority, unless appealed to this Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion at this time that all. matters
relating to drive-in banks, drive-in tellers for banks be a matter be
brought before this Commission. Mr. Mayor, I am concerned, deeply
concerned, as I drive around this City. And today, I saw a major
accident and it's repeated time, and time, and time a«ain where drive-in
tellers are causing tremendous traffic congestion. And I think that if,
in fact, this COTILMiSSion should be the final word. And I make a motion
that from this po--nt forward, that all drive-in tellers be a matter to
be brought before this Commission for final approval. I make that in
the form of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson, we need a second here. Plummer wants all
bank tellers to be brought before...
:dr. Plummer: Drive-in tellers.
Mayor Ferre: ...drive-in tellers to be brought before the Commission.
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Mayor Ferre (continued): I think that makes a lot of sense. Do you
want to second that?
Father Gibson: Sure.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson seconds.
Mr. Whipple: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, so there is no misunderstanding,
this would take a change in the zoning ordinance...
Mr. Plummer: So prepare it.
Mr. Whipple: ...specifically, which you would have to go through the
process.
Mayor Ferre: . Sure, so what he's saying is...
Mr. Whipple: If you'd like a question, on my personal behalf, I would
question what banks. These already approved prior to the time, the
ones that you are discussing, prior to the time we had the
conditional use.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Whipple, as a friend, I will explain it to you and tell
you which ones I feel, but I don't want on the record, anyone to feel
that I'm trying to pick on someone.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is -there further discussion? Do you want to speak
to that item? All right, then call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-397
A MOTION STATING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION
THAT ALL APPLICATIONS FOR DRIVE-IN TELLER
FACILITIES COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR FINAL
APPROVAL
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissoner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
140ES : None
ASSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
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10. DISCUSSION IM CONNECTION WITH THE U?JLINITED REGATTA -SKY DIVING
GROUP
Mr. Plummer: Finally, Mr. Mayor, just things to get of my crow, we're
waiting for eight o'clock. Mr. Grassie...
Mr. Grass•ie? Sir?
MAY 2 2 J52D
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lox. Plummer: ...to you, sir, to save
me writing a memo. I received,
which I'm forwarding to you, a letter
by a group who wishes to perform
during the unlimited Regatta in June.
it is a skydiving group, part
of Budweiser beer. I would lope that
the administration would do
everything possible, unless you feel
there is some safety situation
existing. It's running late on titre.
I also want to bring to your
attention, whoever is doii,g whr3t(ver
is lef.t. of F,ublicity and working
on that Unlimited Fr�r�tta, a ,"II wa:;
receiived that some hundred bus
benches were offered in the past, and
n,)body thi voar remembered to
call those People and yet one hun(lred
bus benches of free advertising
for the Unlimited Regatta, and that doo.,n't
sound too bad until you
realize that. the CLt.y Puts up twenty-five
thousand of guaranteed money.
I just think somebody should be made
aware that they let off of one
hundred free bus benches. Thank you,
Mr. Mayor.
ll.(a) DISCUSSION IN CONNECTION WITH COMISIONT MEETING DATES.
ll.(b) INSTRUCT TALLAHASSEE LOBBYIST TO LOBBY IN ORDER TO
SIlTLIFY D.R.I. EVALUATIONS PRESENTLY IN EFFECT.
Mayor Ferre: Anything else?
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Mayor, unrelated to your Zoning agenda on this item six,
which I guess will probably have to be deferred but I have two matters
to call to your attention. I don't know whether or not this Commission
can accomodate me on either one. Number one, I note that your next
zoning agenda is scheduled for June the 6th the night of June the 6th,
which is a Friday night, which is the weekend of the Greater Miami Chamber
of Commerce Goal setting Conference on Marco Island. There are some very
important subjects on that, including the actions to be taken by the
business community with regard to the rehabilitation of Miami. And I,
for one, was hopeful of attending from the very beginning. I was
wondering whether or not there is any reason why this Commission can't
meet on that zoning agenda either on the 5th or early in the day on the
6th. If the answer is that, you know, it's already scheduled and it can't
be changed, I understand.
Mr. Plummer: Bob, what time do you have to leave to be there?
Mr. Traurig: Well I was hopeful to be there at two o'clock. But if I
can't, I can't.
Mr. Plummer: We're not starting on that day unitl one thirty.
Father Gibson: That's the trouble, he won't be able to get there.
Mr: Traurig:* Well, I didn't know whether or not some of you intended to
be there as well.
Mayor Ferre: The answer is, I will not be in town on the 5th, and Mr.
Plummer cannot begin until one thirty. And the other way of accomodating
you is to put it on some other day.
Mr. Traurig: I understand, you know, you cant'change it. I can see.
Mayor Ferre: See, I'm going to be out of Florida, out of town until
the evening, I'm coming back just for that meeting of the 6th.
Mr. Traurig: The second item that I'd like to call to your attention
is...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. Explore all your alternatives. How
bad would it hurt your clients to hold over to the 19th?
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Mayor Ferre: No, the 19th, we may not have a meeting. How about the
26th?
Mr. Traurig: There are several items that I think the client would like
to have heard, and that's fine. The other itme I'd like to call to your
attention is that Mr. Raymond Nasher has filed an application for
development approval to the South Florida Regional Planning Council
on Phase II of his complex, the first phase of which is the Flagship
Center on the corner of. the Trail and Brickell Avenue. In order for
that matter to be heard by this Commission on July 25th, this Commission
would have to, today, schedule that hearing on July 25. If it can't
be scheduled as a result of this meeting today...
Mayor Ferre: You mean July 24th.
Mr. Traurig: ...July 24th. If it can't be scheduled at this meeting
today, then obviously, because you're going to be on vacation in August
in can't be scheduled until September. There is a very major prospective
tenant involved in that Phase II, who really has to have an anwer.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Plummer moves and Father Gibson seconds that
the item to be heard before the Zoning Board?
Mr. Traurig: NO, it's before ttfis Commission. But I would like to
explain further, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: All right, well then those motions are withdrawn.
Mr. Reid: Mr. Mayor,; could I comment on the proceedings.
Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I thought it was a simple
thing.
Mr. Reid: The procedure in developments of regional impact followed by
this City aqd sanctioned by this Commission, has been that before we set
the hearing, which has to be set with a sixty days notice, that we
receive a letter from the agency that has the DRI, that they have the
DRI and the information is complete. And if such a letter was in hand,
we would immediately act to set the hearing within sixty days. We have
no such letter and so in effect, we are scheduling a DRI before
procedurely we should schedule it because we don't have the go ahead
from the regional agency.
Mr. Plummer: Answer a question for me.
Mayor Ferre: He's right.
Mr: Plummer: Where am I losing something? It was my understanding
that Nasher withdrew.
bjr; Traurig:. NO. Okay, let me explain. He withdrew on the block in
front of the Four Ambassadors. But to the East of the Flagship Center,
there is a :site on which he would build the next tower. Mr. Reid is
correct when he says that you are not normally empowered, under the
statutes of Florida, to set.this hearing until you get that letter from
the Regional Planning Council. We filed our application. We think it
is complete. Our understanding is that because the Regional Planning Council
staff is so busy working on Watson'Island that.it doesn't have time to
look at anything else. Although it hasn't been there that long, and it
very well be that they are being diligent in the processing of it. If you
could set the hearing now and it's improper, we'll voluntarily back off
but we don't think any harm could be done, in scheduling it for the 25th
and then changing your position if you find...
Mr. Plummer; Bob, why couldn't we pass a motion here, I'll watch all
these people hit the floor, but ,you can pick them up, why can't we pass
a motion subject to the arrival of that letter? Is that in order?
Mr. Traurig: That would be great.
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Mr. Reid: The hearing ... the answer, Mr. Plummer, is no. Procedural,
I believe, under State law, we must receive a notification from the
Planning Commission that the documents filed for the DRI are complete.
We have no such letter. When we receive that letter, we must come to
this Commission arid publicly advertise a hearing date sixty days from
the time that we, you know, come to you. In other words, if we came to
you today, we'd be able to advertise a hearing...
Mr. Plummer: You're caught up in bureaucracy.
Mr. Reid: It happens to be a State law.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm not saying whose bureaucracy, I'm just saying
your caught up in bureaucracy, that's all.
Mayor Ferre: There's more money lost by developers... what do you mean?
Don't shrug your shoulders, its' very important to this community. I mean
you know...
Mr. Whipple: Mr. Mayor, I agree but that is what the law states and we're
putting the applicant in just as much jeopardy as the City if we don't
comply with those State requirements because that is grounds for appeal.
And may I defer to the Legal Department as to their knowledge of it.
Mr. Plummer: NO, how many more times do we want to hear something
negative. We've heard it, that's it, that's the law...
Mr. Grassier Well, but if the City Commission, as we, feel that that is
an unreasonable schedule onthe part of the State law, the positive
step to take is to start a process to see whether we can have State
legislation adopted which will change that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Commissioner Plummer moves and Father Gibson seconds
that we instuct our lobbyist in Tallahassee to see if he can get
legislation to change the procedures so that bureaucratically, people
who are developers are not held back the number of weeks that they
are, waiting for paperwork to be shuffled while we ... which I think is an
unfair impairment on the process of development. Does that sum it up?
Mr. Traurig, does that sum it up? Okay, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-398
A MOTION THAT WE INSTRUCT OUR LOBBYIST IN TALLAHASSEE
TO TABBY FOR LEGISLATION WHICH WILL SIMPLIFY
PROCEDURALLY ALL REQUESTS FOR D.R.I. EVALUATIONS FROM
THE REGIONAL AGENCY SO THAT EXCESS BUREAUCRACY WILL
NOT UNDULY HOLD BACK DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS INASMUCH AS
THE CITY COMMISSION FEELS THAT SUCH IS AN IMPAIRMENT
' TO•THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre,'
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Let me explain because I see some people shaking their
heads. This is a decision of the Legislature, not of the City Commission.
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Mayor Ferre (continued): We're asking the Legislature to clarify, what
we think, is a requirement of the law which seems to be bureaucratic in
nature and unduly unfair.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, that was inserted into the law for
a reason.
Mayor Ferre: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Because the opposition cannot reply until it has
been presented. If you are going to eliminate this period of sixty
days, that means that the oppositon has to comply within whatever period
you limit it to.
Mayor Ferre: Let me see if I have this right? Dick, aren't we saying
in effect, that if these people say, it's not a question of sixty days
for opposition, you have that anyway, don't you? Sure you do. They
have sixty days for —see, what this is saying is, they've submitted all
their paperwork but we haven't heard from the DRI that all. the paperwork
is completed so we can't schedule it. Isn't that what I understood?
Mr. Reid: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: So there is no public input during that period.
Mr. Reid: There is no public input until the DRI is certified and
available. That's why you can't start the clock ticking until you have
a DRI that's open for public inspection.
Mayor Ferre: So, one of the ways that Barry Peterson and the fellows
there play games is they just hold these things up. Oh, sure, they just
sit on them. See? They'll sit on them for ninety days, and they know
that on a lot of these projects that clocks ticking away costing that developer
millions of'dollars. What? Sure, that's exactly what they do. They
wait until the last moment. They did that on Watson Island. They make
us, you know, wait. Wait ninety days, let the clock tick.
Mr. Reid: I would say, personally, I've worked in the private sector
and I understnad that time is money and that public decisions, should be
made as expeditiously as possible. When we get the DRI, we have to
analyze it ourselves, which takes a little time, and then take it to
the Planning Advisory Board and then to the City Commission. We're willing
to do that as fast as possible, but it may take a minimum of thirty
days. And when you add advertisement to that, you add some additional time.
So, I think we'd like to shorten the process but we may be talking about
two weeks, fifteen days as being the minimum time it could be shortened.
Mr. Plummer: Have we received yet a copy of the DRI in relation to Watson
Island?
Mr. Reid: Yes, sir. We have the DRI on Watson Island.
Mr. Plummer: Over three weeks ago I sent a memo -to -the Manager requesting
such a copy.
Mayor Ferre: You mean the answer from DRI?
Mr. Plummer: I requested a copy of that which I read in the paper.
Mr. Grassie: If you haven't gotten it,'Commissioner, you will tomorrow.
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12.
DEFERRAI, OF CONSIDERATION OF FPPLICATION BY YARDMER, N.V. FOR
A PLAKNF.D AREA DEVELOPtENT FOR 123 RESIDENTIAL UNITS - 1014-
1090 VENETIAN WAY
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion we defer item six until June
the 6th. June the 6th is our next meeting sir, which we will be handling
zoning matters.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mr. Plummer: Can I make a suggestion to you? Will you make your
thoughts known in a letter to the City Manager, who will then copy us,
and if we think it is merit, then we will do it ourselves, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you just one simple question, Bob? Does this
have the so called fifty foot set back from the water and the twenty-five
percent see through?
Mr. Traurig: Yes, sir. It has the recommendation of the Urban Development
Review Board, the Planning Department, the Zoning Board, and it meets
all of those requirements.
Mayor Ferre: It's fifty feet set back from the waterfront? And it's a
twenty-five percent see through?
Mr. Traurig: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Well, there is a motion afoot to defer item six. Is
there a second?
Mr. Traurig: Could we specify a time certain?
Mayor Ferre: June 6th.
Mr. Plummer: Seven o'clock.
Mr. Traurig: Okay.
Mayor Ferre: Let me see if ... all right, call the roll.
WHEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER ITEM
NO. 6 to the Commission meeting of June
6, 1980 was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
and seconded by Commissioner Gibson, and
�:�•. was passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor .Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo'
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
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25 MAY 2 21980
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Commission,
on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
City Clerk
MATTY HIRAI
Assistant City Clerk