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CITY OF MIAMI
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OF MEETING HELD ON July 10. 1980
(REGULAR)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
RALPH G. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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(REGULAR) &UCT July 10, 1980
PERSONAL APPEARANCE REGARDING CENSUS REPORT
PLAQUES, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS
AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF EXPENSES FOR CHIEF OF POLICE TO
TRAVEL TO CALI, COLOMBIA - SISTER CITIES EXCHANGE
PROGRAM
PARKING FACILITIES WORSHOP
AUTii(►RIZE AGREEMENT: GREENLEAI•-TELESCA PLANNERS,
ENGINi.1:RS-1'LAS1E'ii,T'I'Y STUDY FOR PARKING FACILITIES
IN THE OMI:I AR".A
PRESENTATION OF DESIGN: CLARA RAPID TRANSIT
STATION
PERSONAL APPEARANCE:CHILI HARYS Ati, ROBERT KRAUSE TO
DISCUSS RECRUITING EFFORTS FOR ADDED LNIFORMFD
PERSOi;NEL FOR THE MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT -EXTEND
RECRUITMENT EFFORT TO ENCOMPASS ENTIRE STATE
REPORT ON CONDITIONS OF CONTRACT FOR BERTHING OF
"SPTRIT OF MIA11I" AND INFORMATION ON NEW SHIP
"AMERICA"
AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE TO TEAR DOWN RIOT
DA-MAGED BUILDINGS AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE
FUNDING PROPOSAL -DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION FOR
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM
REPORT ON NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS
AUTHORIZE CONTRACTURAL AGREEMENTS NEIGHBORHOOD
DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAMS - EDISON-LITTLE RIVER AND ALLAPATTAH TARGET
AREAS
ALLOCATE FUNDS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY BY "62 STREET
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION" PROPERTY ADJACENT TO
AFRICAN SQUARE PARK
EDISON- Li1T LE RIVER C.D. AREA AND EDISON BUENA VISTA
L.D.C.-CONFIRMING RESOLUTION AS AMENDED
NEGOTIATE FOUR CONTRACTS (FORMALIZING MOTIONS PASSED
JITNE20) NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES
AWARD BID-EDISON-LITTLE RIVER COMMERCIAL CENTER C.D.
BEAUTIFICATION -PHASE II-B-4458
ACCEPT STUDY-E.H. FRIEND AND COMPANY -ALTERNATIVES
ON CITY OF MIAMI PENSION PLANS
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APPEARANCE
PRESENTATIONS
M-80-509
DISCUSSION
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M-80-511
M-80-512
REPORT
M-80-513
(see later
R-80-546)
M-80-514
REPORT
'R-80-515
(as amended)
M-80-516
R-80-517
R-80-518
R-80-514
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GRANT REQUEST OF LATIN AMERICAN BASEBALL ACADEMY FOR
USE OF' BASEBALL STADIUM SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS
MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE FEES INCURRED BY MIDONG
PRIMARY SCHOOL EXHIBITION TEAM OF KOREA-COCONUT
GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER AUGUST 3-1980
MOTION REFERRING REQUEST TO SELL COOKIES IN THE
DOWNTOWN AREA TO APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS FOR
CONSIDERATION
PLRSOtiAL APPEARANCE -MEMBERS OF MIAMI DESIGN PLAZA
AND MEMBERS OF MIAMI FASHION DISTRICT ASSN.
CRIME/PARKING AND OTHER PROBLEMS IN THESE AREAS
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF DE%__ 0,:TNT ORDER-WATSON ISLAND -
A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONi. " -;.CT
AFRICAN TRADE FAIR-APPhLVE ZOU'RSE OF ACTION IN
PRINCIPLE
DEFERRAL. OF CONSIDERATION:TELECO%L4L',;ICATIONS TRADE
FAIR COMMUNICACIONES EXPO 81.
DISCUSSION OF ZONING FOR APARTMENT USE
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: RE-ESTABLISH CITY
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT GRANT
APPLICATION FUNDING OF A JUVENILE RUNAWAY PROJECT.
WAIVER OF TIME RESTRICTION -SUMMER SPECIAL GOLF
PACKAGE-MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB IN MIAMI SPRINGS.
ENTER INTO PROFESSIONAL. SERVICES AGREEMENT: ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OF THE LATIN QUARTER
AUTHORIZE SALE OF BEER AT ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
COMMENCING AT 12 O'CLOCK NOON ON THOSE DAYS WHEN
GAME COMMENCES AT 1:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT:
C.B. ASSOCIATION FOR USE OF 48 MOBILE RADIOS.
APPROVE CITY MANAGER COMMISSIONING OF ARLYN
ENDF. AS CITY ARTIST TO CREATE TAPESTRY FOR LITTLE
HAVANA COM1MUNITY CENTER FACILITY
REAPPOINT HINES BREE:DEN AS MEMBER OF CITY OF MIAMI
AFFIRMATIVE: ACTION ADVISORY BOARD
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT:
Parking for city employees at new Administration
Building,
DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO EXPEND NECESSARY FUNDS FOR
PLAQUE FOR NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
ESTABLISH POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION COVERING
PROCEDURE OF PERSONAL APPEARANCES DURING CITY
CObMfISSION MEETINGS
M-80-521
M-80-522
M-80-523
M-80-524
R-80-525
M-80-526
DEc,'1;RAL
DISCUSSION
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AWARD BID—RIVERVIEW STORM SEWER PROJECT —PHASE II R-80-536 113
AWARD BID—LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462—
C & S I R-80-537 113
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT: HOUSING PROJECT
DESIGNATED 8-1 (WYNWOOD) AND HOUSING PROJECT
DESIGNATED 8-11 (LITTLE HAVANA)
TRANSFER $43,000 6TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS
TO ALLAPATTAH COMMUNITY ACTION, INC. SENIOR CITIZENS
ACTIVITY PROGRAM IN THE ALLAPATTAH AREA
ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF TWO APPRAISERS FOR PURPOSE OF
DETERMINING PRICE OF PARKING GARAGE CONFERENCE
CONVENTION CENTER
CONSENT AGENDA
BID ACCEPTANCE —LITTLE HAVANA COM."IL.IITY CENTER BUILDING
"A" ROOF REPLACEMENT—SANDRON CORP.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK—ALLAPATTAH MINI —PARK
DEVELOPMENT — ANAR CONSTRUCTION CORP.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK —LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK—
MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC.
PUBLISH NOTICE —OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION
OF "S.W. 22 STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT —PHASE III"
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DIRECT CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE: PUBLIC HEARING
FOR OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPT COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION—
FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT-3RD BIDDING
FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE
APPROPRIATION FOR FLAGLER STREET IMPROVEMENT AND
EXTENSION COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA DECORATIVE
LIGHTING
FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION
1, ORD. 8719—NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUND "TRADE FAIR
OF THE AMERICAS—EXPORT-1981"
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CREATE NEW OFFICE IN POLICE
DEPARTMENT 'OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL COMPLIANCE".
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: RE—ESTABLISH SOUTH FLORIDA
IW I LDING CODE: AS 111E BUILDING CODE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI
EMIR(;FNCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE SUBJECT TO
ELECTION $45,000,000 SANITARY SEWER BONDS
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE SUBJECT TO
ELECTION $30,000,000 STREET & HICIPINV TMPROVFMENT
BONDS.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: CALL AND P20 IDE FOR THE
HOLDING OF A SPECIAL BOND ELECTION ON OCTOBER
7, 1980, $45,000,000 SANITARY SEWER BONDS.
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EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: CALL AND PROVIDE FOR THE HOLDING
OF SPECIAL. BOND ELECTION ON OCTOBER 7, 1980
$30,000,000 STREET AND HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BONDS. ORD. 9131 123
FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: DEMOLITION OF UNSAFE STRUCTURES
DUE TO "CIVIL DISTURBANCES" IN MAY 1980. R-80-546 124-125
MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS: PLANNING AND ZONING
AGENDA-JULY BUDGET PRESENTATION; DETERMINATION OF
MILLAGE; REPORT ON E.D.A. GRANT; GOOMBAY FESTIVAL;
WRECKED AUTOS. DISCUSSIONS 126-130
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MiETIN, OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 10tt, day of July, 1980, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American
Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 1:40 P.M., by Mayor Ferre with
the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSEN7: *Commissioner Joe Carollo
**Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
*11-OTE: Commissioner Carol F.ntere.i
Meeting at 1:4` P. ..
**NOTE: Commissioner Lacasa Enterer:
Meeting at 1:50 P.M.
A'_.SO PRESENT WERE:
Joseph R. Grassie, City Manager
R. L. Fosmoen, Assistant City Planager
Geor?E F. Knox, Cit,,- Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City- Clerk
, Matty Hirai, AssistantCity Clerk
Ar, invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who then led those
present in a pledge of allegience to the flag.
On a motion duly made and seconded, the minutes for the Reqular
Commission Meetings of Argil loth and 24, and the April 24th Planning and
Zoning meeing were approved.
1. PERSONAL : PPE!%RA.7C1r R.GA 2DING CF. ;SUS RI;POi
Mayor Ferrc: We're going to make some presentations in a moment, ...it before
that, we hav,- here present, Mr. John Stewart of the Atlanta Regior,al
-�ffico of the Census Bureau alonq with Melanie Vincent and Willie Gort.
A:,-1 I th,-�Ught I saw Pete Kouchalakis walk in just a moment ago. Pete,
hl,w ;trf• you doing? At tliis time, I'd like to recognize Mr. Stewart.
W( !:ld you w,,nt to tddres,, the Commission, Mr. Stewart? Or did somebody,
i undt.-rstood that somebody wanted to address the Commission.
(INAIi1)IBLE CONMEVT)
Fat -Let (;ibson: Come to the mike.
Mayor Ferre: You'd have to come to the microphone so chin, _. 16 i:t--I,
a clear record of it.
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Mr. John Stewart: We're in the process of getting ready for one of
the last phases or follow-up in the census and we're going to begin
an activity that we call the "Where you Count it Campaign", where we
run an add in the paper for anybody who feels that they were not
counted on the census. And this is being run within the next couple of `
days. It's already come out in one or two papers. And these questionnaires
that people fill out from the newspapers will then come into our offices.
We'll check through them and see whether or not we have them. And if they
have been missed, we'll be putting them, adding them to our list.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything we can do for you here?
Mr. Steward: Anything that can be done in the way of publicity or
promoting the participation of people who have not had a chance to be
counted would be...
Mayor Ferre: What is your estimate of what we're missing. How many
people, or what percentage do you estimate we're missing at this point.
Mr. Stewart: It would be very hard to say what percent would be missing.
It very well could be that we would have almost everything. We have not
completed our follow-up. We're still following up on some cases that
for one reason or arother, perhaps an enumerator was unable to find
a person home so that the case...
Mayor Ferre: Well I happen to be one of your test cases. And I'll
gave you my name right now. Nobody has every followed -up, or we have
never heard from anybody in the Census Bureau in my home. And there are
ton people that live there.
Mr. Stewart: Okay.
Mayor Ferre: So you're minus ten as of right now. I don't know...
Mr. Plummer: How come I got the long form instead of the short?
Mr. Stewart: You were lucky.
Mayor Ferre: Somebody is trying to find out more information about
you, Plummer. Thank you very much for being here. We recognize, in the
City of Miami, the importance of a proper count. Everytime we lose ten
or one hundred or one thousand people, it will literally cost this
City millions of dollars over the next decade and that's money we :an
ill afford to lose. So we're well cognizant of what you're sayit:c-.
Mr. Stewart: Right. We're concerned and we appreciate the help. Thank
you.
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2. PLAOUES, PRnCLAttNTIOPS A*"D SPECIAT• ITF"1S
PRESENTATIONS - C041ISSION MEETING
July 10, 1980
Presentation of a DISTINGUISHED VISITOR SCROLL to CORD\TEL LUIS
OSFINA CLMILLOS, CORiWDAY E DE LA POLICIA DEL DEPARTA!.Z. 70 DEL
VALLE, COLCA LA, S. A.
aSENTATION2. Presentation of a C9T,T_\'RATION to GEORGIA JOTS-AYERS, a dedicate:
vu.- t: iteer worker, for her outstanding civic service to the ce:.,,:rlit,.
1ESE:;i;,:::: ?resentatic-: of a PRJC'*1kTION to Messrs. EURIPIDES RIERA,
DIf:EFCIUR, and ROBOT 1�" , ' _ik\S, PRESIDENT, of the PAN A' RIC-kN C?:" SZR
0;' CO': SCE and DELEG.+1 ": c.esignating the week July 1 through .'U,!\-
1980, as PAN kNIE TCAN C�.� .. t< OF CO`t,fltCE WEEK - for this organ. zatior.'s
many contributions towar., t:.e ec�, .omi.c growth of the Greater DLami area.
3. A T';OT I, E PAYIIF:IT OF E1:PETT-,Er3 FO I Ct7 F nr nn TTrr "I 'rvatrrr
TO CALI, COLUMBIA - SISTER CITIES EXCAAN-GE PROGEW.'
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion at this time, if it's
in order, that the City of Miami live up to its counterpart, and to pay
the expenses of our Chief to go to Cali as part of the inter -change, and
I so move.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
:1ayor Ferre: Is there a second? Further discussion on the item? Call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plunnner, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-509
A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE
THE NECESSARY FJNDS TO PAY EXPENSES FOR THE CHIEF
OF POLICE TO VISIT CALI, COLOMBIA, IN RECIPROCITY
FOR A VISIT TO MIAMI OF CALI'S CHIEF OF POLICE,
UNDER THE SISTER CITY PROGRAM
uix,n being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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ASSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
4. PARKING FACILITIES WORKSZOP
Mayor Ferre: All right. At this time, Mr. Grassie, we're on item
"A" which is the Parking Facilities Workshop.
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor and members of the City commission, this worksho,,
item is a continuation of a discussion that the City Commission initiated
several weeks ago in order to al:tempt to establish a direction for
a parking structure construction on the part of the City, which would
be coordinated with and be supportive of the efforts of the Off -Street
Parking Authority. Aid what we want to do today, is to present to you
some of the arrangements, some of the understandings that are
developing, some of the work program. We would like to get a conxment from
Colonel Mitchell Wolfson, in representation of the Off -Street Parkin:
Authority. And really treat this as a workshop designed to make sure
that the City and the Off -Street Parking Authority are headed in the
right direction, the same direction, and are helping each other. So
with that as a groundwork, I'm going to ask Morris Kaufman to make some
introductry remarks.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Kaufman.
Mr. Morris Kaufman: Mr. Mayor and Mr. Commissioners, this afternoon
we are going to present to you a short workshop on parking facilities.
It is going to be in really three parts. We're going to talk about
planning...
Mayor Ferre: All right, we've got some people ... Mr. Manager, could you
get somebody to keep the people in the back of the room quiet. If we
could have somebody back there. Is there somebody that could :�:...
?ir. Grassie: We have an assistant chief back there.
Mayor Ferre: Well I don't know whether you tell the assistant. chief...
I see. Okay. All right.
Mr. Kaufman: We're going to present to you how the City and the
Off -Street Parking working together are working on planning and development
and the management of future facilities. Can you hear? Our first
presentation will be made by the Director of Planning, Mr. Jim Reid, and
he will be followed by Director of. off -Street, I mean, Director the
Downtown Development Authority, Roy Kenzie. Then I'll come back and
introduce Cololnel Wolfson.
fir. Jim Reid: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, the way we had
or(3anized this very short presentation for you is to talk about tce
planning of parking facilities. The detailed feasiblity studies that
follow that planning, the actual development of the facilities themselves,
and then the operation and management once they are developed. And it's
my charge to speak to a portion of the planning function. And of course,
parking facilities are inter -related with transportation land use
and economic development so it's very much our charge to be involved in
their planning. We have really taken two approaches to the planning
or larking facilities. In areas that are outside downtown, such as
Coconut Grove, Little Havana, and the Garment Center, we have worked with
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Mr. Jim Redd (continued): the off-,,ttr'et l'arkir,y Authority ana with
consultants in some cases, to define parkinq nec.ls an,i tr define whet thr
role would be of the City and the off -Street Parking Authority in terms
of delivering parking facilities. Nnd we've bt:•un very active in that.
In the downtown, wc: have worked aF; a Planning staff with the Downtown
Development Authority and with the Off -Street Farkina Authority. And in
the long term in the downtown, we're also working with the County and
the State. And Mr. Ker.zie is goir,q to speak to ti,at, he's 3oinq to
adc.ress that I>„rtion of the reu;,,:k, because we feel that a significant
information on future regairumt,:,t- will he yielded from a study now
undertaken by the, State ar.d the Coant.y on downtc-,wn transportation
planning. A study that will tz,ke us into the next century with respect
to needs and allow:, to an advance layout, our parking facility policy
and our facility planning, and our actuai parking policies in relationship
to downtown land use growth, economic devt_iopme>nt and transportation.
So I'd like to turn over to Mr. Kenzie who is going to focus on the role
of planning in terms of facilities for downtown.
Mx. Roy Kenzie: Thank you, Jim. For the record, my name is Roy Ku-zic,
Executive Director of the Downtown Oevelopmc:,t Authority. T agree' with
Jim a.-.d the Planning DeparLrwr;t: and the City staff that tht:rt, is a n, o,i,
a very ;trot,? need for cool erative approach ar.d strategy t_c, a;lrires:< the
critical proble'-a;, o` harking both downtown and parkinq in
City of Miw,'d. The move.,. ;Tent Authority in the downtown area has,
surveyrd and been involvt. i-•. variety of studies dealir.q wit^ parki nc.;,
including a survey anal 1."u. existing part:inq, survey cif rates,
development of informati>, f, L_, using lots when lots are converted
ii,to development, of informir.(; •.t,;, ,jeuple on that property that they
are going to lose spaces, being involvea and working with the
Metropolitan Transit group on car poo.in(4 and s:,uttle services to help
obviate the need for parking in the d.,writown. But we still remain wit`,
a critical problem. We're, right now, .:.iding to the downtwo.,. :.a
one point six billion dollars worth of n,�w development. Bcth i, f')ur
Ix)int five million square feet of officr' ;pace•, new hotel rDDms, now
retail space, and new rr-,iaenct_s. And all of these demand parkinci. At
the present tim'-, our policy in effect is withit, the C-3 area that we ao
not require parking to be part of development within the cure area of
dowtown. As we move forward towards the year 2000, we'ro going to have
to readdress this policy in relationship to the use of Fapi,i Tr:r.=it
and the People :lover System. Anci I think it's aphrcnri,.tc, thc� Cit.,— ha:
broken its approach down into two segments, bot;: short t• rr, and
term, with short term very detailed studies of specific :.re:.:
some of which the CommiLsion has alraay beer. involved .*r:, w.Lth tnc
3overnment centc-r, the approval to move aheal anci looking a'_ tl.at sit( ,
the request today to look .,t the OMNI area, eventually to lour: at ;.11i.
area where the prcposed sports arena would be located, and the: work
you're already doing at the Trade Center site with the Farkinrj garage
for the Convention Center, and with the parking garage the Parking
Authority is presenty doing. All of these are positive steps moving
forward to try and meet the need we have right now. As Jim mentioned,
in thE- long term, we have an origin destination study which is underway
fu:.drd by the County, by tho State which is addressing overall downtown
tramsix,rtation ltroblem.,and moving towards a development of a t_--. ,sportation
policy for the future. This study is a niece months study. Weio tartinq
role, it ncrw. Wt,:'il start receiving some results of that study wit':i:.
t i- nt•xt t hi et' wc•t-l.s, and three months, and six months down the line. This
Will h('II• u-; drtail 'Al, overalI parking policy, plan and strategy fcr the
if'.,; lmi)ortant we move In two fronts. One,, t(.at WE:
e::ta2,li:sh -sGn- ,;l,ecific sites for parking now and that we move fon,ard
in t fret f-1sibil ity studies in the, necessary process towards implement:atic'n.
;hat thy a,0111cies involved in that area work jointly together to do that -
that. we move towards a broader approach for a parking policy
for they downttwn which will reassys the present C-3 ordinance, which will
look at the future demands for parking and what kinds of parking demands
will occur based on development in the future. Thank you.
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Mayor Ferre: All ric;ht. The next speaker will be Colone•i Wolfson.
Mr. Y.autman: Yet,, the next speaker will be Colonel Wolfson who will
address, ttre ma„agement We've discussed about the planning and ther,
tht, cievetlop.lent Truces:,, and then finally, the Off -Street Parking would
m.inagc the prujvct.s. I'd like Colonel Wolf son...
Cul. Mitchell Wolfson: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Frrrt•: Colonel, it's always good to have you here, sir.
Col. Wolfson: Gentlemen, I'm Mitchell Wolfson, Chairman of the off-:tre:_t
Parking Authority of thn City. One of the probler-,7 you face when
a duplication of effort which we have here, and w�iich cornri , iont_r Ti.ir7,%r
has pointed out, we've got to work very close tr,1-tt:the1r in crd�r tz, nrt
duplicate our efforts and riot cause the City unnu--esnary e:xpriditures� ..:
funds as well as time and effort. hopefully, that will be more, evi-;—,
in the future than has been it, the past. W' r e not '�rougnt u: to oats
until recently on S(-),Tr' of t}lc aLZIVi tle[, U: the i i,]r.:'.1:,C: for It., '.Eb
parking facilities of the City. We made some co:mner:t to t1:c1 (er •c,:,nc'1
that have to do with the n,,w p: anninq. And if >u have th•:
yo'1 «alit me to, I'll }-re very ylad to jo ver so:n.• c•f t:.at wit;, '.
.oat a�'r��ab:. . .t':� .�,.."� cf ._`f: �:].t .�. ..... •,::,� ._.,c. .., . ..
COrL':!1S'�1�'rl mcvtinr; and . dOl,''_ w.iil(, t'? take -1;- y r••,rc
C 't'S. :r' WL''•✓i' }o'! :. q'-).'Ci tit <i. exi,crleliCt', nl cOUr r',_•, :U•rt' ]1. 1,..,,,
, th tht' off-street parking probl'-,•, i. ve., ,r,,. An.i so Our
1np',lt S'`oaid i`e of son- Value to the ald:,n1L'j :,e?opl, anti al-, t the'
City. For lnstar,:'t , in the r' at.Cria- :hat we gnit, wi' nVt ict-,i that -
the idea^ that they had was to prcvidc r`^,e c,f tho people than wort
,11IS,'laUed In the Gurrnnt aiec. by havlr?c: tnr-:r :,ut in the area whl-h waF
.l]1'_<. J .:15t.finC'o fr,.,m tot: Dupont- area. i,r:,I our C-xpor:e^Ce
that i r.e Pohl l•_ yiir t will not wait: that dista::cu from their car,
em,10 t_nt or sho pit: Anal I t}:i:.k the
tnc-ir i�l�,::e o. Yr" 1 i g •
with that now. An,l tnen we ,.. ; :.o wort concerned al:out .1 :,ro'.',:. u',
wnicn they tiac: il: ant• of th(.},r -,f ,.., . about i down
fuItn•'r c;JriilUatic)n of t.l,i! Ir't't},Gu t'") finance, and we'C llki tt,
::.c•w the :.ourc:e of that revenue. Ln other ti:ords, does the City r,avt
:'lillicns Df dollar, to put down on a gown payment to reduce the
ti.er.c' parr:iny :.tructures so that. ycu cr:n finance it of, a revenue iF,su,
more readily. One of tht prohlems that a:e're friced with, and I.
you gentlemen ar'P facod with, f)•]rtl.i::112r1;' In the- downto%-1
eery unfair and unrealistic to expect that peCip:C Will Vote 1:-. •, ��"':er.a.
l'11QatlOr. bong for parking ir. th(' e1'.,w:.LwCn area. Pt'•=`r l" lI. h .I
of th(• City who are .:•)w already op-.r-s.:ed with }lion utii i'-j
i:Xp(.ns(,+s fcr high interest r,=ter, and With taxe,, they ihoul -i not :,i
ui:'Gn tU ',',Ay any t3XCE tc'Na''CS pr,)vldirig , ArKlr:e' III _:li` tiGw:1T. 4::
arc'.,. And tnc people in tat downtow:, area want to hav': Fuf`i
which they are untitled to nave. It shoul,i be 'ic,::2 eit:,•
throuc-h revunuu bolids, if the fa:-ilicy is feasible on a rev,-rrue }• :.'
issue, -:r it will l,a +_o be tlor:e in so::,e otter way, su"a Is a-..:i.i.
taxing district in which the 1>co;)ie downtown; will be w..liric tc pa,.
ii�ra t dX t0 r�rUVldr• !:i?IaEJ^1VeS With downtow So or Or t:.e' t
wt 1:i the cff-Street Parkine7 Authority have always erne ro i'. r
whatever wt• do w:is }paid for by t.l:e peorle 4ihr: u.nt-, the nar}sir..
ratt,e r them to CXl,e:'t Z,r,y -:f the people In tht: SU'trbs to fe'r ..
irkirn3 fa' 111 ie, that: ire provided downtown. 4r.'3 wo-Il1 he:•>
desk t,,ai the r ;,n that . f .an when tl",c y are rC'di: I tJ tdl K '.O l fi ]L"
,N, ,.,nc• of t.ht, other `h:n(j.i that wo roticnc! in s:)7..e Of , I-,t ,,rr.v:F.:7: ..
the sugq.:-st ion was made: providir.q par<inq f., 'i.: tier ir, t-..
goverament.al center. Is that the cost of provici,r: these bui1dI.nc::;,
hulloing thct-(, huildin, wa.- a bar- Y.'one cost. It can b(• dcn: :-,r th,it.
B,it tLe quest inn is whether the City and the County Warts tc, iiavt
;,lragt s out there which are not mom; atihle with the settir:gs of tht• c)th,-r
buildings whicn will. be in that area. And it w•-)uld see to us, ba:.r!ci a:.
our expeiiur,ce, that government buildings ou•jht to alwayF be certair,l',
Je:,th�t lc value as well as functional vai,it:. Anci I think yo'ir garigt s
1n ne downtowr. area that has l,een provider, by tht, off -Street Parka:-,,
rn:,t only nas functional us(. but they are .aesthetically very compatible
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Col. Wolfson (continued): to what these new buildings go up now are
providing for the citizens of our community. So we want to caution the
planners to make sure that the buildings are aesthetically acceptable
to the community as well acz functionally acceptable. Then we have another
concern about the parking fees. Now our parking fees have been very
reasonable but we're going to have to raise them, there's no question
about that because of inflation as time builds on. So when we see that,
for instance, today we're charging say forty dollars a month for parking
facilities, and one of the provisons in there, that by 1985 this is
liable to go up to eighty dollars per month and they are expecting the City to
provide this parking cost to the employees, I was wondering if that's
practical. I'm wondering if the City Commission is in position with the
Unions and with the employees salaries at the present time, that they
would be willing to pay the difference between what people can afford
to pay and eighty dollars a month. So we have to be very careful that
whatever garages we build are going to be acceptable to the public an,i to
the employees of the City on a cost that they can afford to pay, or that
the City can afford to subsidize for them. One of the other problems
we noticed, that the estimated alternative financial performance, that
this ,-arage, for instance, one of them there would create a deficit
unless there was a down payment and that was one of the reasons why
we whir,: the down payment was coming from.. If somebody wou'.-i
tell us, maybe we could be constructive and help in that area. We are
also concerned with the pr,'iminary study with the rates, as I said,
which will qo up to eight; -'c::ars a month,and seven dollars and twenty-
five cents daily, and three �. '.Lars and one half as a transient fee. We
are convinced, ourselves, teat even -c this eighty dollars a month that
they are projecting, that unless there is sufficient use by transients,
you make money out of the transients. You don't make money out of the
monthly parking fees, that this thing will create even more of a ue:icit.
So all I can say in this workshop, and I don't this is the puce where
we can sit down and work out every detail, we are very anxious .o work
constructively with the planners. We are also very anxious to see that
the City doens't spend any money unnecessarily for plannings, which base3
on our experience shows that that particular neighborhood will not
rapport a garage. That's a very important point. I want to repeat that.
We're very anxious to see that the City does not spend money unnecessarily
to plan for a garage, and I'm talking about the cost of planning alone,
where our experience has shown that it is not feasible to provide a
garage there in the next foreseeable year. Maybe by the year 2000 it
would be feasible but we have to be practical. You gentlemen certainly
have to be realistic in providing with the meager amount of funds that
you already have for operating the City with Police, Fire and other
necessary things that have to be provided, that you don't spend money
unnecessarily for planning or for parking which are not feasible at
this particular time. But we are very anxious to work with this planning
group and with the City's group to provide whatever parking is absoluetly
necessary for the City. As you know, we are now building one garage
which we hope will have about seven hundred spaces and we think that
some of the other places ... we approved the other day a five hundred
car parking garage for the Ramada people that are going to be there at
Second Street between Fifth and Sixth Street. We know that First
National Bank is going to have a five hundred car parking garage. We're
still continuing to try to work out deals with private enterprise where
we will take the property as a gift to the City, and let them retain
ail rights and build a garage, so we can finance it, and we think mafb-
in a year or so we will be able to, and let them build something above
it wi,ich will be acceptable to them. Which would be like you've just
done with the Dade Federal Savings and Loan Association. So really
I'm here just to, you might say, we're anxious, we're willing, and we
hope we have the opportunity to cooperate and work in conjunction with
the Planning Department of the City and the people who you are going
to charge with the responsibility, or are already charged to provide
the downtown area and the outskirts with any parking that's necessary
City, with these important words, that we can realistically
finance.
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Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Colonel Wolfson. Next speaker,
Mr. Kaufman.
Mr. Kaufman: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, I believe that's about the end
of the workshop. In general, but in summary, in general, we've indicated
that the City has through its Planning Department and though other
agencies, such as the Downtown Development Authority, identified needs.
We in the City have the means and the resources, working with the
Off -Street Parking Authority to develop projects and we would then, if the
project is feasible, as determined by the feasibility studies, we would
come back to you, of course, for approval for that, then the objective
would be that the Off -Street Parking Authority would operate and manage
the facility. Or at least that portion of the facility which is the
garage portion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Kaufman, let me ask you now. Are you
requiring any action today?
Mr. Kaufman: We have item sixteen for your consideration this afternoon
which is a continuation of our discussion of a month ago, asking for
you to approve Greerileaf-Telesca so that we may study the OMNI area.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: G.REENLE,' F-TELESCA PLF.NNLRS , ZNGI i'EE'25
5. FErASI3ILITY STUDY FOR PA'2:CING FACILITIES IN r,'7 OIP'I AUTA
Mayor Ferre: All right, Colonel Wolfson, do you agree with this? That
we proceed with studying the OMNI area?
Col. Wolfson: Somebody asked me to say yes or no. The answer is no.
Mayor Ferre: You don't agree.
Col. Wolfson: I think you're entitled to an explanation as why I think
the City ought to save thirty thousand dollars for that planning proposal.
We have surveyed that area, and we were very anxious to cooperate and
help them. One of the things that we found out, that the employees
were using the garage. We provided them...
Mayor Ferre: The employees of...whose employees?
Col. Wolfson: Of OMNI.
Mayor Ferre: And we provided them with these decals, we call it, for
eight dollars a month so that they would not use the garage, which they
should charge much more than that, and park on the streets with parking
meters or other areas which were designed where we could provide them
with parking. They were not being used and still the employees are
parking in the garage. That was one thing we found out. So that =t
wouldn't pay us to build another garage there. The next thing we icund
out was that they charge fifty cents for two hours, and they should, because
what they are trying to do is encourage the people who shop in the OMNI
to go into the OMNI and be provided with reasonable parking. In fact,
they are providing, you might say a subsidy to the packers in order to
yet them to shop in OMNI. And that's a good way for business to operate.
But it would be impossible based on the feasibility studies we made to
have a garage pay for itself on a revenue bond issue with that situation
as it is. And we think that so far in the distant future, before that
area would require the purchase of the very expensive land out there and
a very expensive garage out there that would be self supporting, that we
think that the answer is no to the question unless the City has
sufficient funds that they want to subsidize the building of a garage.
Mayor Ferre: You don't think that we should consider any kind of a study
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Mayor Ferre (continued): for parking in that area.
Col Wolfson: Not any further study which we've already made and we
determined that it was not feasible for a revenue bond issue.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Mr. Fosmoen, do you want to say something?
Mr. Fosmoen: Well 1 guess, Mr. Mayor, I would only respond this way.
What we are attempting to do, particularly in the OMNI area, in Little
Havana and some of the other areas that we're trying to look at, is
anticipate need at this point in time. As those areas grow, and we all
know of at least a half a dozen projects coming on stream in the OMNI
area. As they grow, as those lands are -omitted, as the value of those
lands go up, and as the market starts to impact the value of those
lands, it will be extremely difficult. four years from now when we have
a need, to go into the area and say, okay, lets build a parking garage,
because we're going to be looking at inflated land cost at that point,
we may not be able to acquire the land where it's desireable for a
garage. The only thing we're trying to do is anticipate that :.eed based
on what we know is coming on stream. There may not be a need today.
:next year, two years from now, there will be a need and we're looking
at a three year process to get a garage open. At least a three year
process.
:ayor i,err": I'd l.k(. to ask Roy Kenzie if he would step up ot, thl:.
particular isE,ue. I undo.stand that you've been dealing with some very
large people in Atlanta a c some others that are thinking of building
a large project in that ar. . Is that still proceeding?
nr. Kenzie: Yes. No, t}1r:r1re still ;proceeding with their work.
The other factor...
Mayor Ferre: is the parking question a big question for them?
Mr. Kenzie: Parking for them is a very big question. The otr.u;: .s ue
to be raised is the fact that when we start...
Mayor Ferre: Has anybody bothered to tell Colonel Wolfson about all
these projects that are going on? Because, you know, if he knew about
them, perhaps he might change his opinion.
Mr. Kenzie: I know that, I guess, since 1976 there have been a series
of exchanges between the Ot�!NI management, and others in t;:at complex
with the Parking Authority studying the possibility of an additional
garage up in the OMNI area. These discussion occurred prior to the
development of Plaza Venetia, both Phase I and Phase II. Rigt;t now,
we have a very large parking lot on the bay which will be taken out
when Plaza Venetia Phase II starts construction. That's a seven
hundred car lot. We at the present time have difficulties findinc
spaces for people who are employed in the OMNI since they are not
allowed to park in the garage itself. And we have a demand more than
supply in the area at the present time. As we move towards construction
of i,laza Venetia Phase II, and we move towards construction of additional
projects, as Dick outlined, are in the work and in the conjectional
staye now, we will have a serious problem in terms of additional --aces
for the public.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Dick.
Mr. Fosmoen: only one other comment, Mr. Mayor. If we, over the next
Fix months, identify a need and lock up property, either through joint
development or acquisition, we can more than save the thirty thousand
dollars by simply getting the property early before that market takes
affect.
Mayor Ferre: Mitchell, I'd just like to say, I don't like disagreeing
with you and I very seldom do. This time, I'm afraid I have a little
disagreeme:it. Let me...l want to explain to you in particular why.
There are three people that I'm aware of, these are big solid corporations
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Mayor Ferre (continued): that have money, that are looking to making
a major investment in the OMNI area. One of those corporations is also
considering making that investment either in the downtown or the
Brickell Avenue area. And they now come to ... either Brickell or OMNI,
I'm sorry, downtown or OMNI. I think that if we expect OMNI to grow
healthily this is a sales tool with which we can give people some facts
as to how many parking spaces, what's going to happen, the projection.
Ted Hollo is going ahead with his projects. He's going to take off
of the market seven hundred parking spaces. I don't think there's much
question that we need more parking in OMNI. But that's just a horse
back opinion on my part. If we get Greenleaf-Telesca, or whoever it is
that we get or, these things, to come up with specific figures, and go
and interview the Miami Herald and interview the different people that
are there now, and also interview those that are potentially going to
invest, I think we'll have a better understanding of what it is that
we need. And then people like Tom Cousins in Atlanta and others, will have
more information on which to base their decision on. And I think we want
them to come and bring their Atlanta money and spend it in expanding
OMNI and expanding these other projects. And unless we can give them
the working tools that they need to make these decisions, because
they've got to go up to Metropolitan and to the insurance companies
and the banks that lend them the money, to proceed with the protects
that they are now projecting. Now, I realize twenty-thre<� thous.nd
dollars is a lot of money, but twenty-three thousand dollars is not
a lot of money if we're able to qet, induce Tommy Cousins and his
Atlanta group to come and put up some more money and expand OM1,1 a 1itt1o,
I.it. So it's a gamble we're taking but I think it's a pretty safe
gamble.
Col. Wolfson: Mr. Mayor and gentlemen of the Commission, I don't warit
to take any more time than necessary. If the City has the funds to
land bank property, either at OM14I or any other place, we have no objection
to that. We think that's fine. Our point was that we have provided these
people with decals at eight dollars a month and they are not being
used. And so our experience, based on that, and the facility ... and the
feasibility study we made, it didn't work out.
Mayor Ferre: I understand.
col. Wolfson: Now whether you go down to Brickell Avenue as these
people have done down there, they've provided their own parking and the
people up at OMNI have provided their parking to some extent, an3 new
people should. One of the objectives I think you all should keep in
mind, and we certainly have it in mind is, we want people who wart ..
garage built in that area, or any area where it's feasible, to qive th:.,
City the land and they can make money on their tax because they
1,robably bought the land reasonable, and the profit they can charge off,
Uncle Sam is paying that, and they can make money on that. And then
the City built garage of the Off -Street Parking Authority and they keep
the air rights. And instead of the City spending its money either by
pledging your utility tax or by a general obligation bond, which the
people are going to vote down, you try it and you'll see, that this
thing is not feasible on a purely revenue basis. That's the reason why
I was objecting to you spending twenty-three thousand dollars, n-
because I'm opposed to a garage being built in that area. I think it would
he fine if somebody out there, Mr. Cousins, or Mr. Whoever it is out there,
would say, here's a nice valuable piece of land that the City can have,
and we're working with some people in the downtown area on that nnw, to
give to the City of Miami and say, if you build a garage there and let
us keep the air rights above it, it's there's anyway, why that would be
the inducement to build a garage and show the necessity for it. But I
like to see people put their money where their mouth is.
Mayor Ferre: Mitchell, don't you believe, don't you believe that if we
have information that helps somebody make a decision and if that
decision is made, that that's a good investment.
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Col. Wolfson: One hundred percent correct. But you alrtidy have t'nat.
We had out people do that. I don't know why we want to duplicate. it.
That's the thing that I started when I started talking. That why are
we going to duplicate? That's the one problem with two people doing
the same job. You're going to duplicate what we've already done. We've
had a feasibility study made anti it told us that it was not feasible
to build a garage there. Now keep this in mind, on a revenue bond issue,
pure revenue bond issue. If the City is willing to put up additional
utility and telepnone, whatever, taxes you have, or the City is willing
to contribute tax money to it, that's a different story . All I'm
talking about is, lets don't duplicate effort.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Hoy, do you want to add something? Then we've
got to move along.
Mr. Kenzie: I just wanted to add one factor that; hasn't come up in the
aiscussion that I think is very important, and it was not in place when
the earlier studies were done up in the OM141 area, and that is _.,e
Downtown People Mover System. We're planning to construct a downtow:,
people mover station at the OMNI which would be the :Northern point in th
entire loop and extension to the North. And at the present time, we're
lookia^ �t construction of parking garages on the periphery of dow:,t�wn
next t > cr attached to people mover stations, so peopic whc: art- goinc
downtown who .,rr: i;ot g.,ing... who are working downtown can par}; i.r, ti.e
p(>riphery anc. ride the hen,,le mover in and park at a chear,er rate. And
w.:'re lo^ :i:r3 at several _ • ot4ons fcr this. Ann one of them would r,(
1: t:r_ OXNI are.+ so we car, ht those people coming from ti:c Nortt.,
who can park there ,y,;d rice t ,1, - mover the rest of the way in,
wnich would cut down o:. the ,,I Narking demand in the central
area. And so not only ao we have to look at a parking garage to serve
the needs of the area, but also for peripherial purposes to help cut
dowr the demanri within the central area. We have eve:: a more difficult
problem of constructing garages. And sc>, we have to look at t: t
garage serving a number of functions.
:t;ryor Ferre: All right, any further questions from members of the :ommissio:
or statements? J. L.
�. Plurrier: Well Mr. Mayor, my only concern, as you know, I have had
a big problem with this because I have felt and still continue tc feel
that *his is a duplication on behalf of tho City, with another City
agency and I question seriously the new department created is going to
be able to do anywhere near the job as the Off -Street Parkin, who nave
been in the business for years. It does bother me, and I will .3a, t},is
because I've been on the short end of a vote, I have been giver every
assurance that all the way along, that Mr. LaBaw had been kept informed
of what was going on. And I just normally assumed that Mr. LaBaw was
keeping the Colonel and the rest of the board informed. I an very
rruch upset to hear the Colonel say that it's only recently has he been
brought up to date as to what's going on. I want to say, without question,
that as far as I'm concerned, if I hear this happening in the future,
I'm going to be up here screaming loud and long. Mr. Mayor, speaking
to thu individual proposal which is not thirty thousand dollars, it's
twenty-three eight, at what point, I think this Commission bett-, tart
mnkinq some procedures and some philosophies as to what they expeo:
to do. It wan always my understanding that Off -Street Parking Authority
wr,•, crc,sted for primarily the use of the general public. That people
would provide for tht•ir own in-house needs even though there is no
t4,quirement., and that's understood under the C-3. I think it would be
very, very bad to use City tax payers dollars, or even bonds and
obliq•itions, even though they're revenue, to start providing parking
:structures for employee only parking. At what point do we reach
that in fact, we are subsidizing people in the downtown area. it's very n1cc
to think that all of these people who we're asking to come into the City,
and there's no question, you're on a fine line as to which way you're
goinq to go, to what extent arc we qoing to subsidize them having no
parking and we're going to provide the parking for their employees.
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Mr. Plummer (continued): You know, once you start something like that,
how do you say to the people in OMNI we'll do it, but to the people of
Coconut Grove, we won't do it. And sit back and say we've been fair to
all of the people that we represent. I just have some basic gut fears
that people who are going, if they went into any other section of the
country as far as I know, they have to provide parking and sufficient
parking for the employees as well as their customers.
Mayor Ferre: Then lets abolish the Off -Street Parking Authority.
Mr. Plummer: Well I don't ... no, because that's for the Public. We're
speaking here of the possibility of these seven hundred being created just
for employees. I think there's a fine line...
Mayor Ferre: But J. L...
Mr. Plummer: ...Maurice, and somewhere we've got to come to a determination.
Mayor Ferre: ...whats the difference, you know, when the cash box
registers, do you register cash money as this is employee of Jordan
Marsh money, and this is other money. You know, when somebody parks in
a garage and pays a fee and tha* fee goes into paying off the debt r,:,
that garage, the need for parking is there. Now I believe in the promise
of the Off -Street Parking Authority. The Off -Street Parking Authority
is based on a promise and a premise which perhaps is obsolete today. i
don't thin: it is but it may be. And that is, that this government, this
City will take it upon itself to build public parking. That we're
gut going to look to the private sector to come in and build parking
garages in the area, in the downtown area. And if you'll look at our
zoning regulations now there is no requirement for parking. So a rers,,�n
can come in, as people have, build a thirty or forty story building and
not put one parking spot up. And the point of it is, that that is
because that private individual who is investing his private dollars is
depending on us, in the City, to provide the public parking. Now,
OMNI and the OMNI area is within the purview of the Downtown Development
Authority and it's within the purview of the Off -Street Parking Authority.
And the fact is that I don't think it takes any kind of a genius or a
clairvoyant to look at a crystal ball to figure out that we obviousl,,
need more parking in OWJI. when Ted Hollo gets on with his new project,
he's going to take out seven hundred parking spaces in that area. Where
are those people qning to park? You know, just because I happen to be
a clerk working in J.C. Penney's, I have a right just like everyboay
else does. They have to park, those people have to park. Where are they
going to park? You say out on the street because we don't have enough
decals. That may be true last year or six months ago but I question if
it's true when we close, when Ted Hollo closes down all those parkins
spaces and puts all those people out in the street becasue he's going
to put up another building. There's no question that there's a shortage
of parking in the OMNI area and there's going to be a shortage of parkin.l.
Now, yeah, we can wait, we can sit around and wait until somebody in the -
private sector decides that perhaps he needs a parking garage. But then
1 don't think then we're living up to the responsibility of what we've
assumed. If we're going to put up parking, then I think we've got to get
on with these types of jobs, and we've got to have some vision, and we've
got to have some forward thinking. And I'm not willing to concel that
we have all the answers at this point. It seems to be that twenty-three
thousand dollars is really not a heck of a lot of money when you stoi
to think of the millions of dollars of tax revenues that the City is
going to get if we can get Mr. Tom Cousins and others to come down
from Atlanta and from New York or wherever, and spend their money ar.:
build buildings in Miami. This is what it's going to require. Well,
any more questions or comments? If not, I think we ought to get on
with this thing one way or the other.
Mr. Lacasa: Move for approval.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there's a motion on sixteen. Is there a second?
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Father Gibson: I secon3.
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson scconas.
Call the roll.
Further discussio:, on item sixteen?
The fol:ow nq resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa,
who moved its adoption:
RF.:OLU'rION NO. 80-510
A RESOLTi,rION AUTHORIZING TH'_ CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGRFENT WITH GREENLEAF-TFLFSCA PLANNLRs
FM -
E-,I%I:EF,E-ARCH IlFCTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN
pK;ViC;T`.; ,SRC_HITF.CTUIiAL/E::GINFF.b:I"�G SERVICES FOR
FEASIBILITY AND UFSIGN STUDIES FOR A PUBLIC PARKING
STRUCTVR1' IN THE: VICINITY OF THE OMNI COMPLEX, IN
ACCOK'ANCE; WITH THE TF.R;•,S AND CONDITION OF THE
AT`fACHE.D A':RE:EME:NT, USIN.:, FUNDS THLPEFC- I', THE: A:'JUNT
OF 23,800 FRC)'•1 THE: PA1,YTNG CAPITAL PROJF� TS FU%D
'here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
tpon bci:,9 L,:onded by Cotrunissior.er Gibson, the resol,itior, was
t asF,ed and adopt,,d by tiic `o. 'owing vote:
aYFS: '.'i,_-.'a. rma-):- I-acasa
Comm. s!, l ,r _-,L k r.r _-,fore R. Gibson
Aayur Mauz i.:,, A. erre
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carolio
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
5. PFdIS£T'=A^.IOJ OF L'ESIG",: S.V'-% CL', A %, IG
:dayor Ferre: WE.'re r,ow on item "B" which is the deign , f Culs.er,
Washington Heights, and Santa Clara Transit Stations. Yes, sir.
Mr. John Griest: Thank you. My name is Joi-,n Griest. I'm with the
Dads: County Rapid Transit Program. We're here today tr, show you the
Santa Clara Station design. Lee Ramos, our architect for that station
is going to make the presentation. I'd like to also point out that
after a discussion with your staff and due to comments we received or,
the design as it presently is for the Washington Heights and the
Culmer Station, we'd like to postpone those presentations until t'-..
Con -mission meeting of the 24th. So today we would only be showing y>u
Santa C1ar,,.
May(,t verrc: All right, sir.
"t . Lee F:am,)S: Mr. mayor, Commissioners, I'd llk(, to present to you
my partn, r Sol, is with me today. We need the lights off.
Thi,, i., A rotiderin,l of the Santa Clara Station. We're still working,
wolro through control point two, and we still nave some design items
that wr're working with along with the KTG people. The station runs
on a North South access. This is twulth Avenue, running North -South.
You have twentieth Street running East-West. To the North, you have
the produce area, the railroad tracks and the residential areas of
two or three blocks further. To the East, we have some industrial areas,
part of the produce area, and to the Northeast, you have the baseball
stadium. 1,n
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Mr. Ramos (continued): This is twentieth Street running Northeast;
this is twelth Avenue running North -South. On twentieth moving East,
you have commercial, some industrial, you have the junior college with
their medical -health education facility. To the South, you have the
fire station, City of Miami, and further down yo„ have the Veteran's
Administration Building. To the West, West on T+:entieth, you have a
Post Office and you have some commerc'.1 areas and then further down,
you have some residential areas. This gives you an idea of the location.
The station being on a North -South access, has the breezes that come
from the Southeast and from the beach area. The...here you can see the
train, that's the platform area. This is the ancillary building, then
you have your over concourse, and your lower concourse. And this is
the parking area. And as I'll go through and show you in the plan.-,
I'll explain further. This is a site plan showing Twentieth Street and
Twelth Avenue with the main platform station running North -South. We have
a parking area with approximately two hundre, spaces. Cars will come
into this parking space from Twentieth Street or they will come in or,
Thirteenth Avenue. You have a kiss and ride area, where people will
bring their husbands, or wive., or friends, and drop them off and the,,
can walk over to the Station. And then on Twenty-first Street we have
a bus area, a bus station, various bus parking areas so people can come
to the station by bus, they can be dropped off and picked up i.n the
afternoon, or they can come by car and park. We also have
areas for bicycles. People that want to come to the station b,.;
bicycle. This is a closer shot of the rendering showing you t}.e
c.t.try plaza. Now this plaza has not been completely designed. We're
still in the process of design. We have just made new refinements to this
area where we are going to be having the bicycle parking area and we're
also studying the area to the East and to the North of the lower concourse.
We have a three foot difference between the street and the first floor
of the station. So, that is one of the reasons that we are still working
with this. And also, we know that it is very important for us to
address the possibility of further development in the produce area, to
the North on how we can tie the plaza area to the existing areas for
future development. And of course, this will take further consideration
on the science studies. This is a sort of blow-up of the site Man
where you have the kiss and ride, and you have the parking and the his
area. The bicycle storage has been moved to ti,e East so that it can have
the controls booth inside the lower concourse level. You have visual
control of the bike area. You enter the station up here, and you have
the people that walk through these plazas ... we're working in conjunction
with our landscape architects as well as the KTG people in developing
a final design for this area. This is a view going intr the station
as you approach the fare collection area, and the control booth. Arid
them you have on both sides machines to change and you will go through
the turnstiles zo go up...this is a level concourse. You come through
here and you can either take an elevator or you can take escalators
or stairs to go to the upper concourse level. Here is a shot as you
enter the station and go into that area. This is a cross section through
the station. This is the ancillary building. This is the lower
concourse level, upper concourse level and the platform up above there.
This is Twelth Avenue. This area has mechanical Areas, toilet, and
exits. Once you are up on the upper concourse level, you walk a'- Dss and
you can take stairs, or escalators to take the Southbound train. We have
elevators on both sides for the h�indicapped and for people that ^ar.not
use the escalators or the stairs. And you go underneath the platform and
qu up or down on both sides so that you can take the Northbound train.
This is a large cross section of the platform area. You have twelve
Avenue here, you have the electric room for the trains. These are the
stairs and escalators on both sides so that the riders can walk and if then
are going Southbound, they'll go up this way or take the elevator and they'll
pick up the train at this side. If not, they go underneath and go up. If
you have a rider that is going to make a change of trains, he has to go,
coming on the North train, and he wants to change to a Southbound train,
all he has to do is go, come underneath and go up again and pick up the train.
This is the platform level. You come up to these areok:- These areas
are approximately a little bit over sixteen feet in width and the platform
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is plus or minus eleven feet, well lighted and cool. We have introduced
a pipe trust tystem with stainless steel panels and glass tops to prutecL
the riders from the rain. You can see it on this side, on both sides at
the same time, lighting up the de�::ign of a station or structure which is by
its nature very massive. }sere you can see a baFic picture with the train
and the tracks and their you h�vt- the 5nuthltoun:: train and the Northbounu
train. We are, still we're about thirty days from re<.11y completing all of
the different items of the design and we're going on to C.>ntrol Point II1.
And as you can tell by this picture, we are going to be providinq som(' areas
for a possiLility of art and other items. And I would like for you to know
that there's still a lot of work to be done on this and that this is not
the final drawings but these are presentations of drawings from Control
Point i and we've just gorie• through Control Point II and continuing with
your work. Thank you.
klayor Ferro: All right, are there further statements to 1x• made about this
station? Does this need concurrence on our part? Jack?
Mr. Jack Lurt: Mr. Mayor, yes. Not to preclude public corilm,•r.ts wither, but
the administration is satisiic� with t},i-, dusiq-,, with a few comm-r.ts. k(. would
r�,com,nend Commission approval of the Santa Clara Station. However, w-- would
lira 'o c;arify, for the record, that we are looking for a modest rn-corfiyuration
of th(, i—des~rian arwa i:, front of the entrance, to accomodate ':crt'r: and aouth
iOiVC: ^!,' l,: te• 4n4nr dcv(,Ipmert slten, that. w,,'r(- luoki nc for t i)u:.
a1C.ng Lhe :.OI t , [.f, Ve wtl,•r-e the buS entrance 1S to be move?(1, apj-.roximat vI V
:1fty fcec t.o the Wc•:;t to ., k —modate that Northl.oun l movement. We're also
he ,�ful tha* alot,q—Lwtcnty- Street , on the Kurth side of Twi my -first
,,71,•'re we face the ch;.in lint. -.:a and the parking area, that we can get
sots.-- landscaninq or, the Twenty-first or the bus drive to
screen off Lhei pirr.i:,c lot to t}:., Nc.... That the access and egress
alDnq Twentieth Street, we're concern( i about th(• access point onto Twentieth.
W,. would b,: contei.t with iust an acce!;n off of Trirt.^' r.eth Avenue. That
the sidewalk shouli be widened along Twentieth Street fron Tw^:fth Avenue
from Twentieth Stroet North to the station. And I believe tr,ar the
exte:it of my comments .
Mayor Ferro: Jack, this ie not a public hearing is it?
Mr. Luft: This is a ^ourtesy presentation by the County for the information
of the City Commission. I thick they would like to have the approval of
the Commission, in principal of this design.
Father Gibson: But Mr. Yayc..r, you need to know that if the:,e re,!ommencaaticns
are not met, I'm going to be there voting against you. Cl:a;^ I re;rescnt
thf City on that Comnit_tee. And I promise you, that if w, don't act
commitments, and I want them in writing, you'll lct mc: have them before t`.e
day is out.
Mr. Laft: I will, sir.
Father Gibso:,: And sir, I expect you to, you :',now, comply. Because•
I think they are reasonable. And I want to make this further statement.
That every station that has been presented before the Commission, that
is Dade County, has been A-1. I want to say that for the Washington. Heights
people. I have a comment to make to them. I'm glad you aren't ...c same
1,c: ,nle but I want you to know that you'll do well to take those r.ott•s and
dr) something about it because when you go before our committee, the first
t1iin,7 they are going to ask me, what does the City of Miami say. And I'm
y'.,,ny to say righ* then, and there that you didn't keep, you know, the
�r�ur.itrnr.r,t. )kay?
M.(yor Vurzt•: All right, now Jack, just for the record, because I may
h,., wr,jnt on that, 1 just told father, these are not the same people designinq
culmor, .Ire they:'
?Sr. Loft: No, they're not.
Mayor Ferro: Who, there's another group designing Culmer?
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Mr. Luft: That's correct. There is a different section designer for
Culmer and a different one yet for Washington Heights.
Mayor Ferre: And they're not here today?
Mr. Luft: I do not believe they are here today.
Mayor Ferre: Okay.
Mr. Luft: The architect from KTG is here.
Mayor Ferre: Further questions?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: This is the Santa Clara? How many parking spaces are you
providing?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mr. Plummer: I can't hear.
Mr. Pales: Approximately two hundred.
Mr. Plummer: Two hundred parking spaces. And from this particular
station, what is your proposed ridership per day?
Mr. Pales: About five thousand.
Mr. Plummer: Five thousand. You're with the County?
Mr. Pales: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right. How is it South Miami raises hell and gets
a parking garage committed for their station in South Miami, but everyone
of these stations have raised questions about parking being adequate,
they're not adequate. You see, let me tell you what I see. You're
putting this Commission in a bind. This Commission, as well as your
own. Let me tell you why. You were here just a minute ago on the iter,
just before you, and this magic wand called Downtown People Mover an"
Rapid Transit is being waived, is going to be a panecea to answer all
problems. Okay? And I want to tell you, a lot of people, includ4nc
myself are putting faith in the Downtwon People Mover and in Rapid
Transit because its got to go. It's not what we want maybe, or what we'd
like, but its got to go because this town, the worst enemy we have in this
town is the automobiles. I would hope, but somewhere I have lost that
we see in San Franccisco one of the main reasons that that system has to
be subsidized to twenty-two million dollars a year, is because at the
stations they don't have adequate parking. San Francisco told me that
at the distal ends of their system, they tow away with wreckers everyday
as many cars as they park. Now, how can you envision, you know, this
kiss and ride is beautiful. It sounds good because you put the wr"d
kiss in it but it's not going to be practical. How in God's name can
you expect five thousand people a day to use this one particular station
and only provide two hundred parking? The second question, how does
South Miami get a parking structure for their particular area, but yet
thr City of Miami raises hell every time this comes up and we can't get
anything but a commitment of two to three hundred parking spaces.
Mr. Pales: Answering you second question first...
Mr. Plummer: Take your choice.
Mr. Pales: ...with regard to South Miami's parking...
Mr. Plummer: Everything but the last one. That's none of the above.
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Mr. Pales: With regards to South Miami's parking structure, they don't
have a parking structure, they have a priority ranking with the parking
structures that were having to be deleted due to lack of funding. They
are identified as the priority one station for the South line. Santa
Clara is a North line station.
Mr. Plummer: The same matnmatics apply. Two hundred spaces into five
thousand people.
Mr. Palc!:: That was your first question. With respect to the fact
that South Vi.ami has, as you said, a narking structure, they have a
priority for a parking structure bawd on availability of future funding.
And that applies to the South line. Now with respect to the overall
system, Santa Clara never had a parking structtre. There was not one
deleted. We always envisioned two hundred at qrade parking spaces to
be sufficient for Santa Clara Station.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. You never envisioned in South Miami a parkins
structure until they raised hell about it.
Mr. Pales: No, we always planne o on a parking structure for Souty. Miar.i
but we to delete that parkins, structure along witn six othc:
parking structures.
vr. Plummer: I Lake your w-•rd. How many...
WIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I wot. to comment.
:r. Plummer: ...cars will the ".a.•: ;'ia,T•.. Station, how :ran} cars will
the South Miami Station presently, ar, it is on tho drawing board, accot:�^Ied:,te.
nr. Pales: About three hundred.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. What is the parkira structure going to accor•:
Mr. Dales: The initial phase will be eight hundred.
Pluruner: Ail right, now next question. Of the stations within the
corporate limits of the City of Miami, how many parking structures are
proposed or prioritized?
M.r. . Pales: None .
Mr. Plummer: Ah.
::r. Pales: Initially, within the City limits of Miami none will be Luil:.
T:ie only two parking structures that we have funds for, excuse me, mr. ?ayor,
Commissioners, my name is Ronald Pales. I'm the senior project architect
ror KTG. Only two parking strucutres have adequate funds at this timo.
Those are naturally at the Southern and Nortnern lerwiuius puitlLa, Dautidlw
and Oceechobee. There are parking structures in the City of Miarli, or neai
the City, such as F.arlington Heights, in the City, Allapattah, thitwe are
prey,-;ntly trying to secure Federal funds through a Federal road prograr.,
to joaild. It's simply that we don't nave funds within the Sectior ".-I money
under which we are building Rapid Transit to do those. Those were tw:, of
the garages that were deferred by the Board of County Commissioners. The
other was Douglas Road South of the River. We're trying to find additional
f-sndr. We think we have a good chance of funding the Allapattah and
i.arlington Heights Stations through alternative funds. Douglas Foad,
I think Jack can probably address that better than I can in terms of
what the potential of joint development in getting a garage built there
by the private sector would be. But I would like to address Santa Clara
specifically at this time. And then if you want to continue the discussion
on general parking within the City, I think Jack can pick it up from there better
tha:: 1 can. We have identified a year 2000 need for only two hundred and
eighty parking spaces at Santa Clara. I think that's because of the
proximity to the North of this of Allapattah, which will pick up an awful
lot of traffic from the North and to the proximity of Earlington Height, the
next :station up the line, which will tie directly into the freeway and
pick up a lot of traffic at that point. ..ased on an indentified need of
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Mr. Pales (continued): two hundred and eighty people, we've provided two
hundred spaces which computes out to about one point four persons per car.
We think that's a reasonable assumption. In addition to the parkina space
provided, we have designed the site so that should the future developers
come in and want to increase the produce area already in this area, we
can do that at grade, and increase the number of spaces with a structured
parking within the approximate foot print that you see on the screen. And
its' something again that we've coordinated with your staff and the site
will accomodate as presently designed.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, I hateto say this becuse I'm much in favor of Rapid
Transit. I want to believe that it is just a must. My only great concern
with Rapid Transit, as expressed by Dr.Dyer, that when completed will
only address twenty percent of our need. That bothers me, bothers me
tremendously. But as I see it today, based on what I have s?en in California
and read on others, you either are destined to doom or subsidies that this
town is not going to be able to afford. I just for the life of me, cannot
understand. It has been proven in California that the qreatest problem is
theneed for parking. That has generated their problems, their subsidy and
all of that. And I just think we're missing the boat by not profitting
by others mistakes.
Mr. Pales: We agree with you in that the system is lacking in parking, w(.
understand the problem, and everything is beinU done that's possible to
acquire additional funds, whether they are from the Federal government,
through transit fund, through highway funds, where monies mi4h`_ be available,
or seeking construction of garages through the private sector in terms
of joint development. All I can say is that all of those avenues are being
pursued.
Mr. Luft: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to point out that it was clearly my understanding
that the Santa Clara Station site was designed to accommodate the strucutre
you just mentioned and that far from being an extra add on for a point
development, that early configurations of parking for the entire syste:-
d.d show a parking structure at Santa Clara just as it did at Douglas Road.
And it was not my impression that this is not part of the initial system
design. I understand the cutbacks in the parking but I have to differ
with you there.
Mr. Pales: Jack, we studied every station in the system to insure that the
land we were acquiring, or intended to acquire at that time would accommodate
structtres of one kind or another should the need ever arise. Based on
initial, very early projections of patronage, we had to ensure ourselves that
we had that flexibility.
Mayor Ferre: All riqht. Further questions from the Commission or
statements?
Ms. Dana Chapman: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I am Dana
Chapman of the Overtown Advisory Board. We had the opportunity two nights
this week to review the plans for the, what we call Overtwon, the Washington
Heights Station and the Culmer Station. The first one, we never could even
find out where the Station was. And they were supposed to bring their
renderings to you today. Last night, we had the opportunity to sp- what
the Culmer Station would look like. And frankly, going back to my childhood
in the Miami area, it looked like a black washermans shed with a canopy
in front. It does not do anything to identify or characterize. What we
would like in the community, we had eight meetings out there and gave our
community input and I am of the opinion that the architects were insensitive
to what it was we were saying that we need and what we wanted for our
station. That's a thing of beauty and aesthetics compared to what we saw
the other night. And I think somebody, maybe the Commission should be
aware of it so you will be as conscious of the things that we were the other
night being lay people. I wrote Dr..)yer a letter several months ago
and I want to quote this to you, saying what we feel because we're very
susp,:c and suspicious in our community. It's an old negro idioum Father
Gibson. You probably know about it. But it tells how we feel about that
Rapid Transit station and stations in Overtwon. Art is art, a figure is a figure
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Ms. Chapman (continued): All for the white mar, anc nor.e for the nigger.
And what I'm saying to yc;u is that we're always last and we're always
least. And we don't need that with what's going on in this town and all
over this country. f,rnd I'm saying to you, we need htople that are
sensitive and concerned about o,.rr community not sitting up throwing
anything at us. We are tiled of it and we want no more part of it.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Dana, before you sit dOWT:, less th,•ru be confusion on this.
You're not talking about what's been presented here today.
Ms. Chaiwian: Not Santa Clara. Iw.
Mayor Ferro: Yeah, okay. S;,nta Clara, gentlemen, in my opinion, is
a very very r.icc. ciusi;n. Aral I just...tnat's my personal opinion. I
want to comm,.n,l you for the work that you've done. Arid I concur with
what Ms. Chapman ;,as :,aid. Arid I hope, even though the, are not 1'ere,
you would cart,/ the mt:!5sant: for us, 'fr, Luft, that we expect :1 the
New Washington Helgt.te, Overtwon, and in t`,t: C,i1:r,er station!4, okay, that
we expect the same quality dt_si gr., we expect the same beauty and the
Sane .ommitment to quality t:,at this station hus shown. PNe're not ^oir.q
tc, ac:,-ct a second rare, urily, design in the Culmer, Gvertwor:, and tiuw
Wa hi.. -,tor: Hcightr- area. Arid 'i think, I agrec with Father „icso- and
:'m r'urc this who!,. 'crnrnissic,rr concurs, that we want thO sac,• cualir7
in that r.tati. r„ t:,rt, w,',.• seer. --pressed here today.
Fath-i :.ii son: ':I'. i:ayjr, nave one advantage. Aref.'t .-oL' on th':
Cour:ty staff'
rr. Pales: Yes, 1 an County.
F.itl:c r Gibson • Well w•� expect you t*' ta;;L the messajo r--k.
%Ir. Pa1c•. . 'ter., .,,r.
F,ithez ,iL•,un: Ar.,3 I will m„ke sure arid raise tho question at the meeting
as t) whether you took the message back. Kc)w c.nc other thing. J. L.,
y: u :,ad a cor,cc rn about that parking, you too , sir. It seems to me
that we ought to say to Metro ,hat we are conce_rnt,a about. inadequate
>�,rkirig, and that lust a5 SOuth :liami has priority one, we want to be
rrioritized also. I hone you will put that in the report as you go back.
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'fr. Pales: Very gone?.
:'ather Gihson: I'll he listening.
'tayor Ferre: Ail right.
Ms. Chapman: Mr. Mayor, thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ma'am. All right, further statements or 3is:ussior,
%r. Pales: As Father Gibson indicated, we are qoing to have a p*ti'_c
hearing on this station. This will be on July 28th.
Mayor Fcerre-: We're now strictly talking about the Santa Clara Station.
In there a motion for approval of the design as presented, with the
amendments a:; put into the record by Jack I-uft. Moved by ribson. Is
there a sc-con,l?
Mr. :,,rcasa : Svcond by Lacasa .
Fat he r Gibson: We hay., two amendments.
Mayor Ferre: W:�11 there was more than that. There was the widening
of the siuewalks...
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Father Gibson: No, no. I mean his, that's number one...
Mayor Ferre: I see.
Father Gibson: ...and Plummer's about the additional parking number two.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll, please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-511
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN FOR THE SANTA CLARA
RAPID TRANSIT STATION, SUBJECT TO VARIOUS AMENDMENTS
AS OUTLINED IN COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND AS
INCORPORATED INTO THE INTENT OF THIS MOTION AT THE
TIME OF PASSAGE
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner Joe Carollo
*Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ON ROLL CALL:
*Mr. Plummer: I'm going to vote yes but I...you know, we have to have it
but I just, really I am very much concerned that we are not providing the
basic necessities to make it a go the way we want it. I'm going to vote
yes. I don't see any other choice. But I hope one of these days somebody
starts to realize that you cannot not hope to acquire after. It is an
intrical part and as such, to me, must be addressed in the planning stages.
So I vote yes.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: CHIEF HARMS AND ROBERT KrJh.USi= TO DISCUSS
7• RECRUITING EFFORTS FOR ADDED UNIFOR'!ED PERSON"EL FOR 7E:F.
fIIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT
EXTEND RECRUITriENT EFFORT TO ENCOMPASS ENTIRE STA'.^r
Mayor Ferre: We're now on item number "C". Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Report of Chief Harms and Mr. Krause on the selection of addition'
police personnel. Chief Harms. All right, fir. Grassie.
Mr. Crassie: fir. Mayor and members of the City Commission, the report
that you have in front of you is designed to answer a question initiated
by Commissioner Plummer and supported by all of the City Commission, and
that had to do with the ways in which we would proceed in order to
accomplish the City Commission's objective of having a certain staffing
level for the Police Department. Now what our Human Resources Department
and our Police Department have done, working together, is to give you
a fairly comprehensive analysis of the steps that they have to go through
and the timetable they want to follow, and also some of the modifications
and improvements in the process that they are going to put into practice
iii order to accomplish the objective. The bottom line of their discussion
and the thing that I think they want to emphasize with you, if we all work
together at it, and assuming that we have the funding in next years
budget, that the basic objective of achieving the levels that you talked
about, effective manpower levels, that that can be accomplished. But I'd,
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Mr. Grassie (continued): like to have Mr. Krause initiate the discussion
with you and then either Chief Harms or like Cosgrove will continue.
Mr. Robert Krause: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, the Police
Department, can you gear me now': Last week members of the Police Department
and our dupartnent, met with Mr. Gary conducting the meeting, for the
purpose of coordinating our efforts in prei,arinq a joint report to you.
We explored a variety of new procedures and processes to expedite
recruitment and employment. The Police Delartment had lone a fairly
sizeable statistical analysis of the number of applicants that would be
required, and the scheduling that would be required for employment. We
are planning a new process that will .nvolve con'..inuous recruitment and
at least monthly examinations of candidates so that we can provide a
continual flow ref applicants into the Police Department for processing.
The Police Department has planned ways of expeditinq the background
investigations and the employment of candidates who are qualified. And I
believe they have been exploring with the Police Academy the pr.)_ess of
reducing some of the duplicate traininq material in order to _l-,carter. tht
academy course. It's our }pint bt•iieve that we can, in fact, meet the
goal that the City Commission ha: established. That we would, in fact, icy
May of ntxt year hire more than the two h%indred and sixty-ti,ree ht-ople t`.1at
was dj.:;:ubse:i at the last meet.inq in order thn! wr, will anficii.itc t:.•
attrition t`..at wou] : occur after May so that by tht. en,3 of the f' s-al
there would, it, fact, be all position fille-A an6 an ac'c3itionai
police cff:c4-rs on duty, e street. I think that's a fair`_;: brief
;.umm,i )f the detail:. in n inc! Chief has comments.
Ms. Flummer: Mr. Krausc, for . aJr that's unusual because usually
your i-.ot brief and in this partic:aai your -Just the opposite. But I'm
not going to let you be brief. Ail joking asi3e, if I was the City Manager,
sir, I would tell you very frankly toda; that Se})tember tl,c 31st, 1981, if
that Department was :got up to the eightec ,,, hundred and fourte.-.:, •;,orn
personnel, and fifty zdditional civilians, that you and the Cnie: would
bo. ;e,e,king f,.r a new job. That's what I'u li}_e to tell you. But I don't
have that prerogativc sir. We've cone it in the strongest terms that we
can do it. And now it's up to us to appropriate the necessary funds to make
your life a little bit easier to get this accomrlishe.d. But I'm going to
be here next year. I'm not up for election and I'm goino to be here and
there is going to be at least one other here. And I'm goina to be here to
remind you, sir. I'm going to be hore to remind you. Clow, let me tell
you where I'm Having a problem as I rt.,ad over this report. At.d this
report, by the way, only half addresses that which I had in
memo. And I'm hoping that.the other wiii be an oral rev,ort. As ' read
through this thing here, I find more if ands ana buts than I can sta;,d.
Plow you talk about the five people a day to be x-rayed because a certain
outside clinic can ortly do five a day. That's not acceptable to me. New
what is acceptable to me, is that if you can't do it in the present clinic
that you're using, you go find one that's adequate in size. As I read your
report, you're talking about twenty-five hundred people to be recruited.
Simple mathematics on five a day says that you're job is going to be
impossible. That you're not going to be able to accomplish it. And
Mr. Krause, I'm not going to give you or the Chief that out. Now you
talk about possibly going somewhere: else. Possibly isn't going tr ' ,^_k it.
This Commission wants it done. We realize, or at least I think we lio,
that it's goinq to be a littler tit more, or more expensive that what it has
Leon in the, past.. Now, I read through these about how many things have•
tint t() ht, dune it ttn.•y are done, maybe if they are done, maybe and could be.
1 want yl,u to coma 1�ac% of the next meeting not with if ands and buts, but
dcJinit(- answers. 1 could not be more emphatic in my ten years of sitting
on thi!, Commission, sir, than I am about this one subject. Our street
to,iay .tre unsafe. And it is not because of the Police Department, it's
rnit necessarily because of you, it's not necessarily because of funding
but it is the circumstances that are surrounding in this community. And
whit I want to say to you, sir, I am most emphatic, I don't want excunc,s,
I wait anF.wvrs, and I want. restOrr I have a sign in my office that
applies- here very well. The only way to measure your ability is in the
results. And it's that results that I want to see. Now I want you to come
back at the next meeting, I want definite answers. I realize there is going
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Mr. Plummer (continued): to be price tags attached to those answers but
I want something definite. You can't start an academy before the first
of October because of the appropriations and I understand that. But I
want to know how many people are going to go in that academy on the first
day of October. I want some definite answers. Now this is a good start,
but next time I want something definite. You know, I just, I don't know
how more emphatic I can be. I'm one. The others will have to speak for
themselves. The appropriations, I'm willing. I've said that all the
way along and I will continue to be willing.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further statements?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: Last Commission meeting, this Commission went on record
on wanting to open up the register to not only just citizens of Miami
but of all Dade County. The reason being that we would, of course,
be able to acquire more qualified applicants and be able to pick from a
lot more people. I would like for the Commission to study another
possibility. One of the quickest ways that we could save the City a
tremendous amount of money is if we didn't have to put a police officer
through the academy if they were already certified by the State of
Florida. And I would like to expand this even further. That we could
hire a police officer not only just from Dade County but be able to pick
from anywhere in the State of Florida. And I think we can save a
tremendous amount of money if other police officers are qualified,
are certified by the State of Florida that work in other parts of t1:e
State, that might want to come to Miami and work for us here.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah. As you recall, Commissioner Carollo, last time
when we voted on this, we expanded it to Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and
Monroe County.
Mr. Carollo: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: I would go along with making it a State of Florida because,
as I understand, I'd like to get Mr. Knox's statement into the record,
another recommendation that I made which the Commission accepted in its
vote was that we try to get police officers in other jurisdictions
like Atlanta and Detroit, where they are laying off policemen, unfortunately,
according to Mr. Knox, who has talked to the Justice Department, we have
problems with that not only in the Consent Decree, but perhaps more
important, in the State Law. And State law does not have reciprocit.,
of licensing with other states. So therefore, a police officer certified
in New York, or Detroit, or Atlanta, would not be certified professionall,":
in Florida. Therefore, that police officer would have to go through the
twenty-two or eighteen month or whatever it's going to be, academy program.
And so therefore, we really don't gain anything. Would you...
Mr. Carollo: We do gain something, Mr. Mayor, the...
Mayor Ferre: No, I was talking about nationally. Now state-wide, T agree
that there is no problem because it's all within the State of Florida.
Mr. Carollo: Right. But even nationally, we do gain something. We gain
at least, police officers that have had three, four five, or whatever years
of experience. And that's worth something.
Mayor Ferre: But the point, Joe, is like J. L. said last time, no police
officer in New York making twenty thousand dollars is going to ... is that
how much they make? Or eighteen, or whatever, is going to come down here
and start at fifteen thousand. And he or she would have to start at the
bottom of the ladder. So I think we have that potential problem. I
completely accept and agree whole-heartedly with your premise to make it
a state-wide functiun. But George, for the record, would you give us
an answer on the question as to whether or not we can hire police officers
from other jurisdictions.
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Mr. Knox: Yes, sir. The statutes of the State of Florida provide
that any police officer must satisfy certain miniumu training in order
to be certified to practice that }profession within the State of Florida.
And the State Statutes do not provide for reciprocity or lateral
transfers between departments outside the jurisdiction of the State
of Florida. Such that, if someone wished to become a police officer
who is currently a pulice officer from out of state it would be necessary
for them to attend the police academy and they would lose all rank
and privileges that they hold in the out of state position.
Mr. Plumrer: Well Maurice, let me s;x ak to, and I'll never get it out of
my crow, that the School Board suddenly needed a security force, and they
pulled a raid, and I can't call it anything but. a raid, on our department.
And they did it by simply offering one thousand dollars more than what
we were paying. And I forget the number, but I think it was about twenty
two or twenty-four of our people jumped over night. And when you stop
and think that the money it cost us to put these people through shcool, and
the money it takes a policeman on the street, it far, far excv,,05 the
thousand dollar difference. I think it's something more like fifteen
thousand dr,ilars to get a man ready for street. And I would hate to see
this City start into a competition of t.hQ dollar with other cities
throuchout the State of Florida. I really have problems with that bec:ausc
I don't want that we, here offer more money that Clewiston and wr- F*a:t
Cjett.in�j lt: d 0-1 l.ir competition with other cities, and that's what Co,11c.
easily happen.
'rr. Carollo: J. L., that',- T-ericar. way. You knew, freedom to
offer more salary, ir-der _-alar„ ``r,r someone to move wherever they want
to move.
Mayor Ferre: Well I don't think that we can decide that here, gentlemen.
I think that all we're basically doinu is saying that we're not competing
with anybody for anything. All we're doing is, we're now will to
go out and hire and recruit around the state. J. L., in answer to
your question, if a policeman in Clowiston wants to move to Miami ani go
to work for the City of Miami Police Department, if he's been through
the proper academic police training, he can do it today.
Mr. Plummer: I understand that. But it's a lot different of doing it
on his own initiative and that being baited by dollars.
Mayor Ferre: We're not going to go out and bait anybody. In ofi-,er words,
I don't the thrust of anybody's intention here is to go out and +- from
police department to police department and raiding anybcdv. I think the
intention here is that we do recruiting for raw recruits for the academy
around the State of Florida and T think that will give is a better
universe from which to choose and I think that will give us the ability
to chose the best. And if we have more people to choose from, I think
we'll have the ability, therefore, to fill these affirmative action goals
that we have. And as long as we have the proviso that eighty percent
women and minority, then I'm satisfied that we're going to be able to fill
these affirmative action goals that we have. And if we can choose better
people because we have more to choose from, all the better.
Mr. Plummer: Well Maurice, you know, I'm interested in getting mcn, on
the street. You know, une of the things that has not been mentioned nor
has it been addressed here, lets keep in mind, I would assume that
tho County vxporiern�es, Mr. Krause, about the same ratio we do on
roc ruitment to actual hirinq. And lets remember that the Dade County
i,olict. Department is likewise, simultaneously recruiting for two hundered
additional policemen. That means that the problem of recruitment has been
bad, it has been, you know, a slow down procedure. That means that near
five thousand have got to be recruited to give two hundred to the County
and two hundred to the City.
Mayor Ferre: Five hundered you mean not five *h�tt=end.
Mr. Plummer: No, five thousand, Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: Five thousand people?
Mr. Plummer: It's a ten to one ratio. For ten you recruit...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see.
Mr. Plummer: ...you get one in the academy.
Mayor Ferre: I get you. That's why it makes a lot of sense for us to
go state wide. Okay, well what we have before us is a request by
Commissioner Plummer that you return with further information and a statement
here, which I would accept in the form of a motion by Commissioner
Carollo, that we now expand the recruiting area to state wide. Is that
the sense of it?
Mr. Carollo: That's in the form of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to that motion?
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there further discussion on the motion
as presented?
N.r. Krause: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Krause.
Mr. Krause: May we discuss the Consent Decree as it applies to the
recruitment.
Mayor Ferre: You're going to have to deal with the Consent Decree. Obviouslv
Commissioner Carollo understands, as we all do, that this is all subject
to the Justice Department accepting it. And that obviously means that if
the Justice Department says no, well you know, we can do everything we want
but it's a violation of the Consent Decree and we can't do it. So
obviously, you'll have to deal, and that means, Mr. Knox, you'll have to
call Squire Padgett, and you'll have to deal with the Justice Department
and report back to us if they are willing to accept it. If they're not,
then we're back to where we were before.
Ar. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would accept that and I think my record on the
Consent Decree is pretty consistent. But I would hope, that if it is a
negative answer, if it's a negative answer after it has been fully
explained in writing, and a copy furnished to this Commission of the
tremendous need that exists in this community. We're not talking about
what this Commission would like to do surplus, or comfortable. We're
talking about need, actual need. And I'm saying to you, I think if someone
were to e..plain to Squire Padgett prior, that here is our problem, here's
what we've done in the past and what we're trying to accomplish, but here
is the needs of our people. I think it might be looked at differently.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion on the floor. Is there a
second. It's been seconded by Lacasa. Is there further discussi..:,.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, under discussion, I would like the Chief to comment,
on the motion, of course. We're going to get into the rest of it later.
Chief Kenneth Harms: There's really several points that I wanted to
make that you brought out, that I thought that perhaps I could clarify.
I'll just defer those comments until after the motion, and then I would
like to address the Commission at that point in time.
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-512
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXPAND THE RECRUITMENT EFFORT FOR UNIFORMED POLICE
OFFICERS FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT TO
ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ON RvI,h CALL:
*Mr. Carollo: Before I tite, Mr. Mayor, I just want to make Commissioner
Plummer's mind at ease, :i.: :e he mentioned Clewiston. I was comina
down, passing by Clewistoi ist night on my way back to Miami I ran
into two of their police oiti_ers ) and new cars, going about eighty
miles an hour. kid I'm t:vre w, re new cars the way they were
enjoying them. We won't take any police officers in Clewiston. So at
least in Clewiston, they won't lose any police officers to us, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well in rebuttal to my good friend, Mr. Carollo, :hey have
more territory to cover. I vote yes.
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Chief, the Chair recognizes you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, my memo, I find nothing here that spoke also
to the civilian employees. And I find nothing contained ir, here. We're
not talking, I assume, Mr. Krause, or to the Chief, anywhere near the
problem of the civilian employees that we are with police officers. And
I want addressed today.
Chief Harms: Yes, let me cover that point.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Chief Harms: There were several issues that you raised, one had to do
with back x-ray. It was not the intent of the communication that we sent
forward to indicate that we were going to have a problem conducting those.
but what happens, as the total numbers are reduced, then there are less
back x-rays that have to be taken in comparison to the total tha_ cake
the test, as an example. The City Medical Department can do "X" number
a day, whatever that figure is. And we go outside of that process to have
the additional ones completed, so that we can keep up with the numbers
that we're: bringing on board. We don't anticipate that to be a problem,
in short. Then you asked a question about September, October class. A
minimum of thirty-five will go into the academy at that time. The range
will be thirty-five to fifty. There was a PERT Chart attached to the
back of one of those memos, and it reflects that data there. In addition
to that, I think I really should comment on the recruitment versus
residency issue itself. I think we can recruit in a much greater area
without any problem. But if we expand the residency requirement to
include Dade County, then that would indicate that we could recruit state-
wide, and then residency would be established at the date of application
based on whether or not they live within this community at that time.
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Chief Harms (continued) That might satisfy that problem; might make it
a little more palatable to the Justice Department. In regard to your
final question, we would anticipate that by the time we have the additional
civilians on board, that it would free up twenty sworn officers for street
duty. I think that was the direct question that you asked in terms in
number of police officers that would be freed up in the next year, assuming
that we filled all of those positions.
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to go on and just, on this portion of your report,
expound on anything there that you want to expound.
Chief Harms: You talked about holding us accountable. I certainly think
you should, but I think it's also important that I point out that there
are cetain caveats to the entire discussion, and one deals with residency
requirement, the other deals with the resources to do the recruitment
and selection process. We're given a much area to recruit from, larcer
residency area of Dade County. I don't anticipate any serious problem
at all with recruiting in sufficient numbers to fill those needs in the
next year, which are approximately two hundred and fifty. I don't
envision that as a problem. The inter -face between the Police Department
and Human Resource will of necessity, become more refined which will
permit both of us to more effectively handle that kind of load of people.
And then it's important also that we provide the additional resources
within our department to make sure that we can do background investigations
in a timely manner, and all of the other processes that we have to do.
But those things that we are responsible for, we'll do in a timely way,
which will result given, that these other factors have been addressed in
the numbers of people that you are talking about, in the time frame
that's been established.
Mr. Plummer: If your first class is October 1st, with a minimum of
thirty-five, tell me when the second class is. And remember, this is on
the record.
Chief Harms: Every time that we have a total of about thirty-five people,
we'll start a new class. And we've been given that commitment from the
Southeast Florida Criminal Justice Institute, that whenever we have
thirty-five people or more, in a group, that they will start a class to
meet our needs. So if we do that two weeks after the first class, that's
when we start the second. If we do it six weeks after the first class,
that's when we start the second.
Mr. Plummer: What is your contemplation?
Chief Harms: In terms of the time frame? Every other month
with a sufficient number of recruits in thos increments to satisfy the total
by September the 30th.
Mr. Plummer: When will your last class, according to your chart, start?
Chief Harms: May.
Mr. Plummer: Of 81.
Chief Harms: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. Then, am I to assume that you will be prepared at
our meeting of the 24th, to come back with definite answers on all of
these questions that are raised? And you'll come back with dollar
figures, and you'll come back with the answer on when the civilians
will be started to be hired and put into place. Is that fair? We
don't meet in the month of August.
Chief Harms: I'm not sure that it is. If you'll rephrase your questions
for me. I've responded to three or four that you've raised. If you'll
give me specific questions, then I'll indicate to you if your questions
are fair.
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Mr. Plummer: I'll do it in writing.
Chief Harms: Okay, fine.
Mr. Plummer: I would w.,nt it, Kr. :7ar,ager, I want this matter
scheduled back, I want a further updating to this Commission of where
we are.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further questions at this time?
Mr. Carollu: Just a point of information, if I may, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferro: Mi. CarollU.
Mr. Carollo: I would hope that each member of the Commission has the
time to go through the lengthy and really thorough process that the
Police Department uses in going into the background investigation of each
of their personnel. They even ran a polygraph test. And if wt co
through all this process, very thorough background investigations
for an employee that's only gc,iny to start at fifteen thousand dollars,
even though their responsik.iiity is much mare than that, maybe at some
noii,* in the future, we should maybe tackle Crie possibility of go':-,(; a
little further in our backgrou.d i:;vestiyation-i o4 some o` o.lr ether
officials �1Ly (j{ ::li,Mi tnaL maybe mdko rr�- ch more tria:. a pollcC:
officer, fc.: t.,-r.l rethou-;and dollars, lets say, but maybe carry lust
as much if no,- more zest) ibility.
Mayor Ferre: All right, an,, ...._r ,tatements? If not, thank you very
much, Chief.
d. R: PORT 0!' CONDITICINS OF CONTRACT i•G: :'R'.'Fiii:G OP "SPIRIT 61
AAD INFC,1?:V\TIOV ON 1:EW SHIP "A`.rF,ICA"
Mayor Ferre: All right, we're now on item number "D", the spirit of Miami.
Mr. Manager.
N:r. Grassie: This report is a verbal presentation, Mr. !tar,)r, and memb�
of the City Commission, of reports that the City Comtr.issi.oi, has nad over
a period of several months on thc question of t,:e Spirit of Mimi and its
dockage arrangements at Bicentennial Park. Al Howard...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute because maybe we might clear this up very
quickly. Are you satisfied or you want...
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayc)r Ferre: ...do you want to ask a question before...
Mr. Plummer: No, I wa,, just going to preface, Mr. Mayor, that this �.s
(m t i,.• .+(le11d,1 at my request. It is my thinking, at the present times,
that somebody has done something that they shouldn't have done. This
r:ntuilr: a contr&ct which wits not approved by this Commission, it entailed
thr-sppropriation of a great deal of money which was not approved by
this Commission. And this Commission was totally unaware of anything
that transpired on this item until after the fact. And I want to qet
in on the record of why, and find out who was responsible.
Mayor Ferre: All right, go ahead.
Mr. Al Howard: Well to try and shorten it, on the ... we had met with the
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Mr. Howard (continued): with the Spirit of Miami people, Mr. O'leary
out of Norfork, from about the end of August. tie was looking to come
into Miami. He finally decided on Bicentennial Park. And after goinn
through a series of meetings in which we offered him some facilities
under a dockage user agreement, which was never signed at that particular
point, he then decided to have a press conference. And it wasn't
until October 22nd...25th, that he had that, notifying us on October 22nd.
At that time, the Commission was notified that the Spirit of Miami
was coming in, there would be a press conference and we would like you to
be there. At that time, there was no problems with any installation
for any electrical utility lines or anything else. We had told Mr. O'leary
on a personal visit. down to the park, with him, on two separate occassions,
that there was a one hundred and ton amp line for him to use for the
Spirit of Miami. He said that was sufficient and there was no difficulty.
But the day of the press conference, October 25th, at which time we still
hand't signed the agreement because we didn't know exactly what he was
going to do yet even though he indicated he was coming. He th:n said
that he could not utilize the one hundred and ten amp line, that he
needed about a two hundred and fity amp, three phase conduit line down
there which we didn't have. Making a quick study on that, it seemed it
would cost us about thirty-six ,_housand dollars to thirty-two thousand
to follow the plan that Stone had made prior to the park being completed.
It was then decided that if we were to do it, and there was nothing sa;1111u
that we would do it, it was better to do it going underground and brine
it rightout, and do it first class right out to the buiki;ead. No .mono.
really felt that we should all that work because we were on!-; gettino
one hundred and fifty one dollars at that time for a dockage agreement.
We then negotiated with him, knowing that if we made that type of
installation, the City would have to get their money back over a period of
time so it would not cost the City any revenues. When we made a complete
study in-house, we found that we could do it for twelve thousand dollars,
which was the final outcome, and not the fifty thousand dollars as was
first stated. Realizing that we could do it for twelve thousand, and in
two fears make that money back, or less, from the Spirit of Miami, that
the City would, therefore, not invest any of its own money into the
utility system. It wasn't until really December, that we knew that
O'leary was going to accept what we wanted to do, that we made the agreement
with him. And it was an agreement that with the approval of the Law
Department because we were using a dockers users agreement under the City
Code, that we are charging more than we were supposed to get, the. otie
hundred and fifty one dollars that was the original cost, we were getting
five hundred dollars a month for the first year, seven fifty for the secon:
year, and one thousand dollars for the third year. But the Law De-narttnent
told us that it could be done administratively under a users agreement
and not a contract. We therefore went ahead. I think it was an Oversight
of not sending a memo through, but all those complications of comina,
not coming, changing the electrical lines, we really were in a quandr�
there for about three months.
Mayor Ferre: Al, I've looked into this thing since Plummers brought it
uF, and I think, I'm glad he did bring it up, I think that's appropriate.
My conclusion is, after talking to you and the Manager, and to George
Knox, that even though technically you're right, that legally wh-* ,you've
done is right, and legal, and proper and what have you, I think, n vertheless,
the spirit of it is not right. I'm talking about the Spirit of Miami.
I think that it would be much better if in the spirit of cooperation at.d
full disclo�:urc, and information, that if all members of the Commission
wrsre fully aware of what the administration is doing, I don't think anybody
criticizes. At least I don't criticize for your progressive approach
in trying to get things going in Miami that are useful to the whole community.
What you did, after I've seen it, I think was good. And I think it was
a good decision and what you did was appropriate and right. I think
Plummer is nevertheless right, that in the spirit of how we operate here
that the Commission should have been better informed.
Mr. Howard: I accept that responsibility.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Knox, and let me say, Mr. Mayor, I don't have an,.,,
problem with the Spirit of Miami. I've never been aboard the boat, I
don't know anything about it, it's not the Spirit of ",iami as it is
the contract, and I call it a contract. It is not a usu-ii dockage as
we have existing all the rest of the Places in the City of Miami, to
my knowledge. It is a concession, it was a concession, it was based
on a percentage and there was a consideration of appropriations which
originally was agreed upon by their memo of fifty thousand. Thank
God it only cost twelve. My question is, how could that be signed legally
and how can the appropriations of money be done legally without this
Commission's approval. I don't understand that.
Mr. Knox: All right, I can hopefully clarifv it a little more. The
nature of the agreement is one that does not generally call for the
approval of the City Commission, in that it is a use agreement. However,
under ordinary use agreements, as you point out, there is no requirement
or expectations that the City would expend monies. T'ne City would
be receiving mcsney for, in exchange for t.ie use of it, do k facii.t.ns,
in this case. To the extent that t'.,.e Law Dopart.ment has spurn.: r�s or,�.ilility,
it appears that we had overlooked the provision; of the acgret-rent
called for any expenditure of City funds. And of crur,e, you'! orrecl
that where there is an appropriation or an expenditure whi^}, ctx e�ii
i�r y-fi'J+ aw, dollars, there must be aj,pr.v;,:
resOlutio::. : ,: nature' of the agreement is not r),-c that t;il i
olic t.nat w.:1 re,uire C'i,', Commission approval, bat by virture
i3ct. t'r:at the .:ity had c ',,.i'rc:c its own funds to Provide ut.i,ity srrvice
in excess of forty-five h -lol'ars, that was a matter that should
have come to the a. tent i-r • • C' Tdssion.
.1r. Plummer: Well, I'm going to �; i'. yc.u, it's done and over. I ju:,t
think that the procedure was wror,g. I think it, circumvented this
Commi:sion. I don't think it should ')ave been donr.. . r.,w receive
a m-omo from you that wF_'ve got a new D,-., coming, the Spirit America.
,.r. Howard: Wail th-.y've taken the piiit n:f and the,'re just
it the America now.
Mr. Plummer: Tnell, w!: moved from %liami to the Alr,eriCp. I would hop t;lat
anv Contr.,ict that you make with these people whether it's a users permit,
call it. whatever Nrou may, it's the use of City facilities, tax pjyer
owned, would corn before this Commi ss7ion. An,l any apI?rc f,riationf- of
money over for-y-five hundred dollars, as called for in the (-'i;3rter,
wouid be a )proved sc t.nat this: Commission could make su:c• thzit ve fecal,
we're the c,nes a::swerable to the Public, that we `c,.'1 :hat i :, yor),3
deal. BeCaUSL if it's not, this is where it's rroinq to co:r.e bac,c.
not going to go to �Ir. Howard and say, hev you mr.de a bad deal. It, hcvIrc•
going to come to the elected officials and rightfully so. This is done
and over with. I'm not looking to bury anybody. But I don". think that
there is any other way I know that I can bring these matters before
this Commission except in the manner in which � have.
9. T UTHORIZE MANAr,I:R TO NEGOTIATE TO TEAR DU'7`1 RIOT DVIAGED
BUILUINC,S AS 13XPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE
father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, to hear Jr.
talk about the procedure, I'd like to bring up a matter. Mr. .-,rimm,
you think that's all right now?
Mr. Grimm: Yes, sir. It's up to you.
Father Gibson: J. L., as a part of that committee that's looking over
the riot torn area, part of the problem is in the County and part is in
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Father Gibson (continued): the City. We took a very strong position
this morning, that we want the scars removed.
Mr. Plummer: The what removed?
Father Gibson: The scars. The scars of the riot torn area. We want
those scars removed. We feel that they are like festering sores. And
I talked with Mr. Grimm, and I want to say Mr. Grimm, I don't know who
you know on that committee, but they were high in their praise of you.
They say the one thing they like about you done here is that you get on
the case and you get moving right away. Now who you know, who'se your
friend, 1 don't know, don't care. I'm glad for the comment and I thought
I'd better share it with you. If we are going to carry out our intent
in doable needs within a thirty day period, I think that the Commission,
whatever is necessary, ought to take the necessary step now. That the ...
that Mr. Grimm be given authority to negotiate even beyond the forty-fiv(.
hundred dollar figure, if you are going to clean those sores up forthwith
and right away. Because you're just not going to be able, we'll be out
of Commission all of next month, and it is the desire of all of us to
tear down all those buildings that are festering sores and get them out
of our eye sight. Now how do we do it or how do we deal with it? And
let me tell you something by a man you know well. All of us know well.
That we don't want business as usual. Do you know what they meant by
that? Continue to put off and pussy foot, and carry on and get nothing
done. And don't come telling us about, you know, some owner pru})rrLV
rights. We're not concerned about that because if somebody gets Kiiiaa
we wouldn't need the property. Now, it seems to me that we ought to
pass, what is that, an emergency?
Mr. Grassie: If your motion is approved in principle, Commissioner,
we can get a resolution for you by the end of this meeting.
Father Gibson: Please, Mr. Mayor, how do we get it done?
Mayor Ferre: Father Gibson moves. Is there a second?
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this is a motion in principle, you bring it back
as a resolution for the end of the day.
Father Gibson: Beautiful.
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
THE PRECEEDING MOTION WAS INTRODUCED BY COMMISSIONER
GIBSON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LACASA. SAID
MOTION WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT:Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID MOTION WAS DESIGNATED MOTION NO. 80-513
WHICH WAS LATER FORMALIZED THIS SAME MEETING
AND DESIGNATED RESOLUTION NO. 80-546
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10. FUNDING PROPOSAL - DO:dNTO`.4_i LUSIT'ESS ASSOCIATIO" FOR
ECCNOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGP.A.M
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to take the items where we have members of the
public that are here. Se we're now going to take up item "G". Mr. Grassie.
,Ms. Grassie: Mr. Mayor and members of the City Commission, Julia
Castano will introduce thin subject. If you remember, we had some
discussion, Mr. Mayor, of this item on your last agenda. And at. t},at
time, the City Commission asked for a fuller report and a com.p.ett,
discussion of the question. So Mr. Castano will now address his
memorandum to you and also be in a position to answer questions.
Mr. Julio Castano: Mr. Mayor, Cormissioncrs, there is three basic
items in the Downtown applicatio,. for the participation in the ounce•::•
of a '•;iami Capital Devel-pment Co.-poratic,n. Nu!-;t;,,r one,
we have, is that downtown is not recognized as a nei(thlx rhood.
,crefore, ther•� are n,-) funos mac:,: available, for ti,i s progl'ar ,.... .
concept. `:umber two, that the Downtown Buc;inessm.en's Associati(.):.
c.in use: :fiami Capital Development Corporation straight rnit, since we
',cated downtown along with them. Number three, is that these outre.acl
1•rc warms that we have in the neighborhoods are really directed t,_.
neighborhoods that are in need for this kind of econonmic Bevel-r-nent
process. In other words, neighborhoods that are deteriorated. So w,
f(�-,l that downtown doe- not fall under those guidolir:-2s. We don't, ar.,i
we're not saying at all that downtown should n,7)t participate in �;iatni
Capital since Miami Capital is a City-wide concoat. Anybody in the Cit.
of Miami _an participate in that concept. We're talking about
:)utre:,ch programs that we're directing to the neighborhoods. Ai'd of
ec,ursc•, as the Citv Commission's responsibility and prerogative tc,
.1 (lecif-.ion on that.
Plumuner: Castano,.
Mr. Castano: Sir.
Piummer: I appreciate your comments, but as a Commis ioi., r, . rc:,erv,
the right to disagree. All right? And I do. hr.d I :1,) ver- much so.
Let me tell you why I disagree. This money is coming from Com mni ty
Development. All right, sir?
b;r. ^astano: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: here we have a group of poo-ple who are saying t:, this
Commis:;ion., we want to qo out and we want to do the job in uur py ticular
community, our neighborhood. All right3 And there are neighborhoods ,
ths, downtown area. Unfortunately, and this is a thing I want to : :edule
f,)t the: next agenda. A downtown target, one of tnc target area,: ..s
dowr,towi�. It has no board. It hat, no public hearings, it has not:, nc
,,xc•(,j,t lour hundred thousand dollar::. There was n,) one to say "yea"
ci. "nay" on t1,1:, proposal because: there's no board. It's ridiculous
.I,cn y ni :;tol) an,l tiunk about it. Now, I'm saying to you...
Ferre: Lt:_�ter Freeman.
'11. d1w1u,.er: ...well Lester Freeman doesn't speak for us, never !,as,
ever will. Maybe he might. chance. T'm saying to you, here is a grout,
of people that want to go out and do a job for this commmunity. This
(1)esn't have, in my estim8tion, any defiance to you and your orcanizatio%,
nor does it to the DDA. This is community devolonment. They want to dc)
it.
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Mayor Ferre: J. L., can I interrupt you. In the interest of time,
I think you're going to find a solid support. I'm going to recognize
you for the purposes of a motion and avoid Emilio having to speak to
it. I would like to in support of the Merchants Group say, that, Julio,
I just want you to listen to this. Because I think you're going to find,
my guess, I'm guessing, you're going to have five votes on this. Now
I would reconnend that you couch your motion, instruct the administration
to negotiate with these people and come back, so that they come back
with a contract similar in nature and similar in purpose, to the other
contracts so that it's not, you know, just fifty thousand dollars,
good-bye, we'll see you next year.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no. Well Mr. Mayor, for your information, they have
already proposed a program. It's there.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, but you see, the point is that that's something we
ought to let the administration negotiate with them.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. So if you make your motion, I'll recognize you
if you want, and then we'll open it for discussion.
Mr. Plummer: I make the motion that Mr. Ferre just outline(?.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion on this? Okay, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-514
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TD NEGOTIATE WITH THE DOW14TOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN
A MANNER SIMILAR IN NATURE AND PURPOSE TO OTHER
COMPARABLE CONTRACTS ENTERED INTO WITH OTHER TARGET
AREAS
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote%
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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11. REPORT ON NEW WASHIrIGTON HEI04TS
Mayor Ferre: I think while we're talking about economic development
programs, lets get on with, we have New Washington Heights. Lets take
them in order as they come before us. The next one is New Washington
Heights. Mr. Manager. Mr. Grassie, we're now on item number "J".
The Chair recognizes you.
Mr. Grassie: The City Commission has on several occassions, t:r. Maycr,
and members of the City Commission, discussed reports on ;New ivashl4natc;
Heights. At your last meeting, you had two questions come up. One
you resolved by making a designation of a neighborhood association which
would join with the City in a, application with the Federal government
for funds, and you left open one question which had to ao with oth'.-.r
Federal programs tlat might be applied to, and what the role of.
Washington Heights might be if it were to be as they had describes; ar,'i
that is that they were the only opportunity for the City to make
appli::tition for some SBA monies. So the first part of our report will
,ddress that and Mr. Castano will speak to the question.
Mr. Castano: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, as the law stands right now,
as passed by the State Congress, it does not require an agency in order
to apply for funds for this new state program, to be a non-profit
local development corporation, or a CBO or anything else. It's either
or circumstance so it does not require an agency to be an LDC. We arL
asking the Commission, we're giving this information to the Cornissicn,
and we're asking the Commission to do two things, tc cor,tinue fundinc
until July the 24th, at which time we'll present a position by the
department and by the administration, as well as a position by SBA
on LDC's in this community.
Mr. Plummer: You're asking us to delay what until the 24th?
:;r. Grassie: Continue funding for New Washington Heights.
Mr. Plummer: 'New Washington Heights Economic Development Corporation?
Mr. Castano: In Overtown there is two corporations. One which you hav,_
funded for fifty thousand dollars, which is Overtcrrn Economic Develc-•pment
Corporation. That's fine. That's within the system of the City-wide
uevelopment corporations. Okay? Now New Washington Heights, apart from
that, we would like for you to fund it until July the 24th, at which
time we will give you a recommendation on three things. Number one,
does an agency have to be an SBALDC to receive funds from the State;
number two, are there other LDC's in the area; and number three, should
you fund New Washington Heights in the future.
Mr. Plummer: Well Mr. Castano, that was why we deferred it at the last
moct.iny aml rescheduled it for this.
'.r. Castarjr.: No, in the last meeting, you went with the administration
recommendation and you approved funding for Overtown Economic Development
Corporation. That that's what we...
Mr. Plummer: Correct. But now then the portion that we deferred to
this meeting was there was a contention made that they were the only
LDC existing in Dade County. This Commission said to you, find out if
that's true. It was the Mayor who said that to you. Is that a true
statement. And that's what you were supposed to come back and tell us
at this meeting.
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Mr. Castano: New Washington Heights, at this moment, right now, is
the only LDC of this community, certified by SBA. That does not preclude
everybody else in this community to apply for Federal or State funds.
Nor does it preclude for the development corporation that the City
has endorsed in five different occassions to be certified by SBA. And
SBA is doing that right now. And what we want to do is bring SBA here
and let them tell you. Now, if you fund New Washington Heights, to
capitalize New Washington Heights, you're actually taking money away
from the organization that you've already approved as the economic
development agenc; in that area.
Mr. Plummer: You see, that's where I have a problem. You make a statement
like that, fir. Castano, without even consulting this Commission.
Mr. Castano: No, I'm...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. Excuse me. You say that we're taking money
away from the new organization to this other organization. Now that's
maybe what this Commission will do. You could do, you could say possild y
you could, or it might. But to make a flat statement like that to me
is wrong. To me, you might say that it's going to create a shortage
of funds. But I don't think it's right for the administration: to be
making Commission decisions. Now this, you know, we have, for examm_,'c
and this is before your time, this Commission did not take sorr.e of t:,e
money for New Washington Heights out of Revenue Sharing. We switcho(I
parts of it. That's our prerogative. That's what we want to do, dn1
'.hat's up to us in our wisdom as to what we think is right. So, I hole,
not just you, but all the way through this process we call admir.instration,
that those things reserved under this Commission's wisdom to do what
they think is right, will continue to be that way. Because more and more,
we are finding that when things are being presented to us, the decisions
somewhat have already been locked into stone. And that's wrong. That's
wrong. So, I understand what you are saying. I hope you understand what
I am saying.
Mr. Castano: I certainly am. And by no means am I trying to say th,t
we're going to do it one way or the: other. We're presenting a recommendatu.:n
to you and it's your decision.
Mayor Ferre: All right, fir. Fields, go ahead.
Mr. Ed Fields: Mr. Mayor, fellow Commissioners, I think what you lust
heard is a classic example of the problems we have been iiavin; from t "
City's staff for the past several months. Now Washington. Hei ;ht ; na!; tn.,
only LDC certified by the SBA, approved by the Internal i:evenue Sc•rvic,,
as a non-profit organization. ready, on-line to do business. That was
the directive that you gave the City's staff at this last Commission,
meeting, to verify and get back to you. The second part of that directive
dealt with the capitalization of the City's staff and that is what you
just heard the City staff member speak against. Over the past several
months, the staff has formulated plans and proposals that they are ready
to implement, that are ready to implement. We have already done the
background, rather, they have already done the background work. 7* is
necessary, it is urgent, at this point, for you not to delay this.
organization any longer. It is imperative that we continue the work
that we have been carrying on for the past several months. And any further
,IvLay may cause irreparable damage to the successful operations of that
organization. You gave a directive. It has been answered. We ask you
today to voto afrirmatively.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Castano, or Mr. Crapp, or the Manaqer.
Anything else you want to add? Further questions from members of the
Commission? All right, we have the report of the New Washington HeightE•,
Item "J" before us. What is the will of this Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Mr ntrar;., to my statements prior to this, 1 think
that this Commission is entitled to all of the information that is
humanly possible to get. I thought we would have those answers today.
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Mr. Plummer (continued): Unfortunately, there was a misunderstanding,
maybe on our part, or my part, but I don't think that this Commission
should be making decisions when we have been advised by staff that they
wish to get additional information. Things are not going to change, and
I don't know how many votes will be changed. But I see no choice but to
honor the request of the administration to continue this matter until
the 24th of July so that this Commission can be, once the vote is taken,
each Commissioner can express the view that he has been fully informed.
I'll make that in the form of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there's a motion. I don't think you need to make
that in the form of a motion. You just... continue this item until the
24th unless somebody objects.
Mr. Moses Florence: May I make a statement, tor. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes sir, Mr. Florence.
Mr. Florence: Mr. Plummer, a telephone call to the SBA would have
identified for your staff that New Washington Heights is the only LDC
certified for 502 loan funds in Dade County. They have done that and
they have made the admission. To delay our status, our funding, and
understand that this is continuation of funding under an existing
contract. It is not money coming from anyone else, it is not money
allocated to anyone else except New Washington Heights. We have a staff
of seven people and we're in the process of right now negotiating on
about one point seven million dollars in rehabilitation loans for the
Overtown area. If the concern of the community, if the concern of the
City staff, if the concern of this Commission is to see that something
is done in terms of economic development in the Overtown area, do not
put brakes on any organization that has an ability, or is trying to carry
out that function. The City in its position that is being taken at this
meeting, is indicating to you, yes, New Washington Heights is qualified,
yes, they are the only ones, yes, New Washington Heights can apply for
the State funds but maybe someone else can. We want to delay it until
what? We can establish our own organization so that we can then come
back to you and say now there are two so use us instead of them. We are
ready to go now. That community needs action, activity. It needs
development now. We are in a position to do that now. If you allow
our funding, which has already been allocated to us, to continue without
delay, without waiting until the 26th, we will be able to move those
projects on line and move forward with the State money. We're not asking
for any other funding from the City. We're not asking for taking money
from any other organization. And that would resolve this issue, that
would resolve this issue.
Mr. Castano: Mr. Mayor, I don't see any reason why New Washington
Heights can't go ahead and apply to State funding now. Secondly...
Mr. Florence: Which we are doing.
Mr. Castar,o: ...fine. We don't plan to apply for Federal funding for
that area in this particular thing.
Mayor Ferre: You mean in this particular thing. Don't say we're not
applying for Federal funding. We're applying for a lot of Federal funds.
Mr. Castano: I'm sorry, for State funding. Thirdly, I think that the key
issue here is whether the Commission wishes to support the process which
we have established for economic development to include, starting with
the Gladstone Study, which dicates some very basic economic development
plans for this community, all the way through to the selection of a
neighborhood group that will work in this process. All we're saying
right now is, in fact, yes, they are making I think a big issue on the
New Washington Heights being the only LDC in this community. That really
doesn't mean anything. Anybody can apply and anybody can get SBA
funding. As a matter of fact, there's several right now in the SBA's
Offices that will be resolved within a few days. So, that point really
is not a heavy point.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, any further statements? Because the Chair
now will follow the recommendation made by Commissioner Plu:�^�er that
this item be brought up again on the 24th of July unless I hear
otherwise from any other member of the Commission. That's the way it will
be.
Mr. Plummer: Well Mr. Mayor, I think more in line would be that this
matter be scheduled for the agenda, for action, which it is not today.
It is only on as a Committee of the Whole which is for discussion.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner Plummer requests that this item be put on the
agenda on the 24th for conclusion. Okay?
AUTOORI^E CONTRACTURAL AGREEMENTS EDISON-LI:'TLr RIVF'i
12. 11LIGE20'.0100D D^VELOP.'irr'.T AG01CIES AND ALLAPAZ'-IX, TA'2GFT
NEIGHBOF1100D ECONOMIC DEVELOP"SE,iT PROGRA":S AF_ PS
Mayor Ferre: We're now going to move on to Allapattah. What item i�
Mr. Manager?
Mr. Grassie: That is in the regular body of your agenda. I wonder if
,,,., can do thirty before we move to Allapattah. That basically is the
ratification of action that you have taken before?
Mayor Ferre: You mean Edison Little River.
Mr. Grassie: No, no. Item thirty ... I'm sorry, thirty-two.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this is to ratify what we've already aGreed upon.
So is there a motion on that? In other words, that was Little Havana,
Wynwood and...
Mr. Castano: Right, the four agencies in the four neighborhoods that
were selected by the Commission.
'Sayor Ferre: Is there a motion on thirty-two? I mean, what's the
hurry of doing it when there's nobody here for it?
Mr. Castano: Well because otherwise, we can't write a ;Dntract with
them and can't move forward in these neighborhoods.
'Mayor Ferre: You can't wait ten minutes or half an hour? We're now
on item thirt,;, which deals with Edison Little River and Allapattah.
Since there is more people here on Allapattah, then we'll take that up.
So, Mr. Castano.
Mr. Castano: Mr. Mayor, members of the City Commission, you have before
you the recommendation of the City Manager on the two neighborhoodE,
Allapattah and Edison Little River, with City staff recommendat .a
for the Allapattah Merchants Association and the CD Advisory Boar,:
recommendation for the Allapattah Development Authority for fifty
th:nisaud dollars. Threeagcncies applied for this funding and one, as
you can ,.� � , was reccnnmended by staff, and a different one by the board.
Mr. 11tunmer: Is that in both areas? Allapattah and Edison Little Piver?
Cheri wort- thrcc?
Mr. Castano: Right, there was disagreement.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Castano, my recollection is there was a young lady
who appeared here last time, from the Buena Vista area...
Mr. Castano: No, that's for Edison. I'm talking about Allapattah
right now.
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Mr. Plummer: Oh, she's here. She's finally making her...
Mr. Castano: We'll get to them in a minute, but Allapattah is the one
we are discussing.
Mayor Ferret All right. What we have here is a situation where we have
another one of these neighborhood wars going on. where we have a group
of people...
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Mayor Ferret ...well it is. That's exactly what it is. Everybody is on
sides now. This thing has divided into two warring factions. And since
• there is fifty thousand dollars in funding involved which is going to
pay for salaries, everybody is out there fighting for it. And we've
been unable to get some kind of a logical, reasonable conclusion between
these groups. On the one side, we have Elpidio Nunez, and Urra and
the people from the CD group, who have a right. They represent that
community. They have some very strong feelings on it. They felt t::at
they weren't properly given an opportunity and they are requesting
funding on that. On the other side, we've got the merchants along 36th
Street who also represent that community, even though many of those
people do not live in the Allapattah area but they have an interest in
the Allapattah area because they have investments and they have concerns.
Now, there are several things, there are three things we can do here.
And I would just, perhaps in the interest of avoiding a lot of screaming
and dividing here, we can select one group and have the others walk
away very angry; or we can select the other group and have this group
walk away very angry. That's one solution. We choose sides and let half
of these people go away very upset. That's one solution. The second
solution that we have, is to fund both of them. We give them each
funding and we say, okay, you get twenty-five thousand and you get
twenty-five thousand. I don't think that's going to resolve very much
because there's not very much you can do with twenty-five thousand. The
other alternative within solution two is to give then each fifty thousand
dollars. Now let me tell you what that does. The next thing you know
is, you're going to have the same request in Edison Little River, you're
going to have the same request coming back to hit you in Wynwood. You're
going to have the same request in every one of these neighborhoods. You'll
have factions immediately formed to say, we want fifty thousand dollars.
And then you have two competing organizations getting involved in
community development each trying to get the fifty thousand dollars and
we end up with the same thing that we've just been through now in the
Culmer area, all over again. That's the second solution. The third
solution is that we instruct both of these groups to come back and
get together and that we approach this on a neighborhood basis. That we
go neighborhood by neighborhood, I mean block by block. And that we try
to bring together a coalition where we can end up having one organization
where people, where your group will be accepted and this group will be
accepted. The one thing that I am very concerned is ostricizing groups.
I'm very concerned about people being denied the right to participate.
And I'm afraid that that is a perception, that that exists on both
sides. I'm not going to make a decision as to whose right, as to
whose anti. But I have a feeling that there's a little bit of that
on both sides. I'm going to repeat in Spanish because I think there's
some people here who perhaps might understand it.
(AT THIS POINT, MAYOR FERRE TRANSLATED THE ABOVE STATEMENT INTO SPANISH).
Mr. Urra: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, we in the Allapattah community
feel a great respect for the City Commission, in that the City Commission
being elected by the citizens to represent the whole community.
When this City Commission decided to change the way that the Community
Development Board was elected, a board was elected in the Allapattah
Community, a fifteen member board, I was selected by the community
of Allapattah to represent the whole community. In the last meeting
of Community Development, there were three proposals by th-r- 0"fferent
groups concerning this fifty thousand dollar grant. And during that
meeting, the Allapattah Community Development Board decided unanimously,
to give this grant, to get that proposal to just one particular group.
Also, this Allapattah Community Development Board knows the necessities
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Mr. Urra (continued): and the concerns of the area. There is a question
of which group I am supporting. I do not support any particular...
there are three groups. I do not support any particular group. The
main reason that this group was selected by the board is because that
group is representative of the three different ethnic groups that
comprise the community of Allapattah. They have blacs, hispanic, and
anglos working together. Persons who work for the City of Miami
keep insisting to other groups out of the area, for those groups to
keep insisting to try and apply for the grant. To try to get that grant
through for them. The same respect that the community of Allapattah
feels for the Commission, the City Commission that was selected by the
citizens, I ask that Commission to reppect the decision of the board of
Allapattah Community Development. If persons that are supposed to
represent the community, the board that was selected by the community,
the decision that was taken by the board is not recognized, very few
people who will keep on working like that. Thank you, that is all I
have to say. (APPLAUSE).
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you, let me tell you what the problem is that
this Commission has to face now, Mr. Grassie to you, and through you
to Mr. Fosmoen and mr. Castano. This, what Mr. Urra is saving to u, i
that in the Culmer area, the CD group made a recommendation to us and
we followed the CD groups recommendation, and we've clone through a lot
of Fain because the New Washington Heights group which is a validly
constituted group didn't want us to do that. But this Commission;
firm, as I saw it, and followed the recommendation of the CD grout_ NOW,
the question then arises is that if this CD group has been elected, and
it was an open election, where everybody and anybody could have voted,
and they voted for a fifteen man CD board, what logic then does the
administration have to follow the recommendation of the CD group in
Culmer and not follow the recommendation of the CD group in Allapattah.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, the logic of the staff bears no relationship
to the recommendation of the CO Advisory Task Force. This Commission
will remember that over the last six years, or five years, every
February we go through a very heated public debate, in these Chambers,
about the allocation of Community Development dollars. And we do not
bring to you the recommendations of the community as our recommendations.
If that was the case, obviously all you would have to do is ask the
community, we wouldn't have to meet, we wouldn't have to participate,
and the community could bring to you its recommendations and the p rote:.:.
would be over. But there are other considerations. We make our*
recommendations based on our judgments, the community makes their
recommendation based on their judgments. It so happens, in three
cases we did agate with the community development board. In one cast:,
you may recall, the Community Development Board asked for a deferral
and we didn't proceeed with...
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, I understand, but that logic is not applicably.
That's ad -hoc logic because, excuse me, apples and oranges. In the
case of Culmer and in the case of Allapattah, they are recommending a
specific course of action. In the case of Wynwood, it is not
applicable because they were recommending no course because they said
defer. That's not apples to apples.
Mr. Fosmoen: My last comment, maybe ad hoc logic. My first set of
Commments I don't believe are.
Mayor Ferre: I agree with that.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may at this time. I think the statemcr,t.s
yc)in previously made a little earlier have a lot of merit. I could
understand the statements you made. However, I think that the main
thing that we ha,.,*-- to take into consideration iss not who is going to
be mad, who'se going to be happy but that we vote for one group, the
group that deserves to have the representation for those funds. The
group that can show to this Commission, as a whole, that they will do
the most with that money. The qroup that can show that they have done
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Mr. Carollo (continued): the most for the community of Allapattah
in the past years. The group that can show that they can work the closest
with the City administration in getting this money out to where it's
needed. I think that is the main thing that we have to take into
consideration. In as my one vote, I'm opposed to dividing that money.
I've always been a firm beliver, you can't be in the middle in the gray
area. You can pick light or darkness, but don't go in the middle.
(AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONER CAROLLO TRANSLATED THE ABOVE STATEMENTS
INTO SPANISH) (APPLAUSE)
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, I do agree with the statement made by Commissioner
Carollo. And having had experience in dealing with the CD task forces
in the past, and knowing how important it is for this community to
reinforce the groups ... that through the process established in the CD
system, in the City of Miami, has the representations. And notwithstanding
the fact that I do believe that the merchants, the Allapattah Merchants
Association is a highly capable organization that contribute a lot to
this particular program, as well as many others, but I'm sure that the
CD task force represented here by the elected members of the area can
work very constructively with all of the factions and all of the elements
involved. I'm going to move that this money be granted to the Allapattah
Authorty, development group.
!.Ir. Carollo: Mr. vice -Mayor, if I may interrupt...
Mr. Lacasa: I haven't finished. And I am going to make my state:ent
now in Spanish, if you will allow me to.
Mr. Carollo: The only point that I wanted to bring out...
Mr. Lacasa: Just a minute, Joe. Let me finish my statement.
(AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER LACASA TRANSLATED HIS STATEMENT INTO SPANISH)
Mayor Ferre: I will...Armando, in the interest of letting the other
side say something, as soon as they finsih their statement, I will recognize
you for the purpose of a motion. Okay? But in the meantime, I think
it would be better if you leave the other side have the opportunity,
if they wish to express themselves at this time.
Mr. John Hughes: Commissioners, I'm John Hughes, President of the
Allapattah Merchants Association. And I have another man that is going
to make the presentation, but I'd just like to say that I think if you
ride down 36th Street...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Hughes, excuse me. Usually in the Commission
we have a, you know, your name and your address and if you don't want
to give your address...
Mr. Hughes: 1400 N.W. 36th Street.
Mayor Ferre: In the City of Miami.
Mr. Hughes: City of Miami. If you ride down 36th Street and 17th
Avenue, you're going to see blighted areas as bad as those in Li - ty
City that have been bombed out and burned. And I can't see the other
organization that you're recommending for the fifty thousand dollars
doing anything possitive to reverse this trend. On the board of the
Allapattah Merchants Association, we have three financial institutions
represented, Dade Savings, Ameri-first Federal, and Central Bank and
Trust. And I think you just have to see that funds are going to flow
much easier from people that are closely associated with these
institutions. I'm really sorry to see that you can't recommend us.
Hopefully, I have tried to make some recommendations to the other group,
and Mr. Urra does represent the other group. If he says he doesn't,
he dues. Mr. Barrotto
Mr. Eduardo Barrero: Good afternoon Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. My name
is Eduardo Barrero. My address is 1200 N.W. 36th Street. And I have
been given the honor of appearing before you distinguished gentlemen on
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Mr. Barrero (continued): behalf of the Allapattah Merchants Association.
Mr. Commissioners, the proposals put forth by our Board of Directors is
very compact and to the point. What we propose to do if granted the funds
is, one, establish an information base as an economic development resource
for target area residents and businesses; two, assist existing target
area businesses; three, strengthen our organization through revitilization
efforts; four, business recruitment and promotion; five, be an information
service for our merchants and a liaison with local officials; six,
pursue contacts at local and national assistance programs; seven, keep
the business community aware of those programs that are available to them.
Our proposal is very close to the other corporations that are applying
for these funds. We are different from them in _hat we have been an
organization for over thirty years. We are all in business in Allapattah.
We have many on -going programs that would enhance our success with this
grant, such as crime watch for the merchants, bad check alerts and
business development research. We are concerned solely with the economic
revitilization of our area. We have sent our president, Mr. John Hughes,
to represent us at a Federal funding seminar in Washington, D.C., that
was hosted by Senator Claude Pepper. In upgrading our area, we have
been instrumental in getting buildings condemned and better solid waste
pick ul:s. We are very familiar with the needs of our area and we do have
a track record. We would like to point out that ot;e of the other
inplicants for th,. grant, The Allapattah Development Authority, Incorporated,
has been in existence for only six months and was formed solely for the
purpose of obtaining this grant. The other corporation, the SBOC has
filed a proposal for every target area and certainly cannot know what is:
going on everywhere. We are also proposing the construction of two
shopping centers. One at the Northwest section of Northwest 12th Avenue
and 36th Street, the other one across the street from Jackson High School.
These two efforts would be a partnership between private and federal
funds. We are asking for the opportunity to continue to represent the
Allapattah area in its quest for economic revitilization. And we know
that the time is now. The people still live in Allapattah but their
shopping is being done out of the area. We must stop the blight now,
and with your help and support we will. I'd like to add, that we are
a tri-ethnic organization, giving us better insight to the problems
cf our community. The solution to these problems is not the responsibility
of the Blacks, Cubans, or Anglos. It is an American problem and we are
all Americans. Lastly and most important, our connection with the
financial institutions of our area. Mr. John Hughes, Vice -President
of Dade Savings, Mr. Joe Puig, Vice President of Ameri-First Federal,
and Mr. Armando Guitteriez, Senior Vice President of Central Bank and
Trust, would give us many obvious advantages since we would need their
support to get any worthwhile project off the ground. I thank you on
behalf of the Allapattah Merchants Association for your efforts and your
time, and hopefully, your vote. (APPLAUSE.)
Mr. Lacasa: Do you feel that if the Allapattah Authority Development
Group, for instance, the other group that is competing for these funds
is granted these funds, you could work together with them in putting
a plan togehter. Since the problem is this, I do feel that the
contribution of your group will be extremely constructive to the whole
program and development of the area. But we can only give the at-, t
to one of the two groups, not to the two of them. So I see as immaterial,
if everybody is going to work together for the same goal, which is to
puL these monies to work on behalf of the whole area, I kind of feel
that it's immaterial which one of the two groups gets the grant as long
as the two groups work together. And let me tell you why my position
goes in this particular occasion with this particular group, as I
stated before. My reason is this. I don't have any question as to the
capabilities of your organization to develop an extremely successful
program. My problem is one of representation. I come from the CD,
that's basically my grass roots, that's basically how I started in
doing community work. For about five years I was the chairman of th(
Little Havana Community Development Program. I came before this
Commission many times in such a position, and the only way that we could
really motivate, by and large, neighbors by and large, to participate
in this process is by reinforcing into them the feeling that the Commission
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Mr. Lacasa (continued): recognizes the elected officials. So the
problem is this. If we could give a grant to the two groups, I would
have no problems with that. But that will be establish a very difficult
precedent in one particular area which could spread to others. So
what I do here is plead with you, that you work together, if, I am just
talking on my own, r am just one vote on the Commission, I don't know
how the rest would go. But if this other group were to be granted the
grant, as well as I would tell them the same thing if you were to be the
ones who would be granted this grant, to work together for the common
goal which is the implementation of the program in the area. And I
feel that this is essentially what you all want to do. Basically
your group is composed of businessmen, people that have a very deep
interest in the economic development of the area. So regardless of
who gets what, the goal remains the same and both groups together could
work. And the same thing goes for them in the event that you are the
one who are granted the monies.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr.. Mayor, the one thing that I have continuously said in
Culmer applies here, and that is that regardless of how much money we pump
in the Culmer area, if the two groups are fighting, and feuding and fussing
nothing is going to be accomplished, nothing whatsiever. Now, I think maybe
a key is to, once again, look at what we did in Culmer. In Culmer, we did
create an organization, that organization came forth and the City funded the
$50,000. This City also funded in Culmer because of the conditions created
at the disturbances, another fund to fund... to eliminate -as Father says- the
"scars". That fund is for a specific purpose. No one would deny riding
down 36 St. and 17 Avenue that those merchants are entitled to the same con-
siderations, because they suffered the same as other areas. Maybe not to the
same degree, but their suffering and their pocket books are hurting just like
others. Mr. Mayor, 1 see nothing wrong with awarding the $50,000 to the
Allapattah, as recommended by the neighborhood association,...and I see nothing
wrong with awarding $50,000 to the merchants' assocition...(APPLAUSE)... This
is not a popularity contest, we all come out losers, hopefully not. But I
Mr. Mayor, propose that $50,000 be given to the association to do the neigh-
borhood type of work and that $50,000 be given to merchants primarily ad-
dressing the area of the commercial area which is 17th Ave. and 36 Street.
God knows that it is needed in both.
Mr. Mayor: All right, is that a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have no problem with making that in the form of a
motion.
Mr. Lacasa: I will second that motion for the purposes of discussion, but I
would like to have some answers in here before...
Mayor Ferre: Let's get to Father Gibson and then, back to you, and
then, whoever else in the Commission, and then....
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I hope our fellow citizens are going to listen very
carefully. I don't believe in passing the buck. I believe that leadership
stands where followship must stand tomorrow. However, I am rather perturbed,
I'm rather disturbed, I'm really troubled by you and myself not being able to
understand what is happening in this community. It is all well and good for
us to talk politics and politics is a way of life, I am not addressed to that,
It's all well and good for us to talk money and I know that money talks and
you don't pay your bills with prayers but you pay your bills with green. For
the last three days I've attended meetings in this City talking about some of
the problems that confront us and the said thing is that the leadership of
this community on all sides, Black and White and Latins, the leadership is
not aware of what is happening with the followship. Yes, I want to say that
again, the leadership is not aware of what's happened to the followship and
then all hell breaks loose and out. We then say, well, couldn't :.,.,i;.,!body have
told us that? The sad thing is you and I are not listening, you and I are
not seeing. I would much rather go for Plummer's recommendation than to give
any one $50,000 to the exclusion of the other, as much as I don't want to give
two groups $50,000 a piece. I say this to the members of this Commission, you
will be damn smart and wise, the $50,000 wiLl be a very small sum to pay, to
put out, for what I think I see or I believe I hear. You may not like that but
I want to warn you, 35 years pastoring in this City, seeing all the cross-
currents here, that period of time has led me to the point that the period has
come when we who sit on this Commission are going to have to start mending
our fences and even healing some of these sores, other-
wise we ain't going to be around here. And Mr. Viummer, I want you to know as
One Commissioner, i would be most happy and glad, even though the staff is
going to say now -"Where are you going to be the money from?"- I say to them,
man, said thing is that when the riots came everybody started finding money.
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Rev. Gibson: (cont'd)
You can find much less before rather than trying to find such a hell of a lot
after.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor....
Mayor Ferre: I'll recognize you in a minute, let's hear from all the Com-
missioners and then I think we'll hear from you, and then we'll vote.
Mr. Lacasa: I'd like to say that I am very happy to see that the Commission
is so receptive to the Allapattah area because, knowing the Allapattah area
is one of the ones most in need for economic development, probably in thu wh(J e
City of Miami, aside from the recently affected area of Liberty City, central
district, I believe that $100,000 that is basically what we are talking nere,
it's not a substantial amount if we take into consideration the tre:.aenduuz. rveu
for development of Allopattah,so I would have no problems with entertaining that
particular motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, other members of the Commission.
yr. Carollo: I just wanted to say Mr. Mayor that I would certainly :•op,, tnat
for a community as large as Allapattah, $100,000 more or less wouldn't t`e
cause of a riot there, but my question is this? Where are we going to t,- the
$100,000?
Mayor Ferre: The same place you got the first $50,000, that's
Mr. Carollo: Is it there?
Mayor Ferre: Oh, yes. We've got eight million dollars.
Mr. Fosmoen: It's simply a matter of priorities.
Mr. Carollo: Well, then let me rephrase the question this way. If we give
$50,000 to each group, are we going to be taking that $50,000 from, maybe,
another area that might be more of a priority?
Mr. Fosmoen: No, no. It won't come out of another area. Each area has an
allocation and, you know, and one of the projects in that area will have to
give.. That's all.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute now, I disagree with that. I'm sorry, you
know, I could keep my mouth shut and it would be the easy way out. Dick, let
me tell you something, my buddy, you didn't take the $40,000 to feed Culmer
out of the neighborhood development, you didn't take....
Mr. Fosmoen: To feed Culmer?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Do you remember the $40,000
emergency allocation?
Mr. Grimm: Vagrants, vagrants, not Culmer.
Mr. Plummer: All right, call it what you may, it was people who were hungre,
okay? Now, you didn't take the $30,000 for the Orange Bowl out of the Community
Development. You didn't take the money to erase the 'scars' out of the Culmer
neighborhood development. I'm saying this doesn't have to come out
Mayor Ferre: I don't think we are going to get very far if we are going to
get into that discussion now. In my opinion....
Mr. 11lummvr: 1 didn't want to.
Mayor Ferre: But since it's on top of the table, I think that the only place
that the money can come from is from Allapattah. I'm certainly not in favor
of taking it away from Little Havana, or from Culmer, or any other area. And
Allapattah, if that's the decision I'm perfectly willing to go along with it,
I think we can afford it and it makes a lot of sense, and I just want to ex-
press this, and I guess this is the third person expressing this opinion here.
Maybe the fourth, I don't know. I want to express this opinion. I don't know
how many of you got to see the wonderful series on Channel 2 on Disraeli.
Disraeli was the great Prime Minister of England. He was the great conservative
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Mayor Ferre: (cont'd)
leader of England for the whole Victorian period, and the one thing that
Disraeli kept saying over and over again is that it a lot of courage
to be able to keep things on a course of stability. Statesmanship requires...
and I guess he was a conservative, he was talking about conservative states-
manship, but that's why England became the great Empire that it was. It was
to be able to form consensus, to be able to form opinions where there can be
progress. He said, conservatism doesn't mean that we do not want to progress.
And I think the great thing that Disraeli did -and that I think all great
politicians or statesmen in the history of mankind have always done is find
consensus. Consensus is the middle of the road, the great American tradition.
And I certainly this formed some consensus here and I am for this motion.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would like to say that since I came back -I've been
away for two weeks- I've certainly found this Commission a lot more refreshing.
Mayor Ferre: You what?
Mr. Carollo: Since I've been away, coming back now I certainly find this
Commission a lot more refreshing with statements like that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you might want to look in your history and find out that
the greatest liberal that England ever had was a conservative, Disraeli.
Okay, are we ready to vote now?
Mr. Lacasa: There is another question here that they aru concernec! WILh and
it is the question of the representation. Could you elaborate on that?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Are you speaking to me? Mayor, Commissioners, I wasn't
here for the wisdom of those persons who expressed their concerns, however,
fortunately, I am a member of both groups -the Allapattah Merchants' Association
as well as the Community Development. I have specLalized knowledge in that I
am an appraiser as well as a realtor and a 15-year resident of the particular
area you are concerned with now. I am not going to make a great oratory because
in the conciliatory measures that you just mentioned -that was mentioned here -
and Commissioner Plummer's decision, we did meet together as a cooperative
group and decided to work together. Therefore, with your decision and your
wisdom, I'll yield to that decision and ask the group to conform to your de-
cision to finance both groups. Thank you for your time.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have Mr. Nunez.
Mr. Elpidio Nunez: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my name is Elpidio Nunez. I am
the President of the Allapattah Community Development Authority which I have
been approved by the Allapattah Community Advisory Board and recommended by
the Latin Chamber of Commerce too. My only point at this minute is that we
feel that we have been trying to represent the whole area of Allapattah, not
only the 36th St. or so. We have been for 19 years in business in the Allapattah
community, we have faith in Allapattah, we are not going away, we are investing
in Allapattah and we are going to try to improve Allapattah as much as we can.
In that way, the only thing that I want to point out is chat as far as we have
been approved by the Allapattah Community Board, we should have the representa-
tion in any future committee at any level that can be formed and that is my
question at this minute.
Mayor Ferre: Now, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 60-515(as amended)
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE
TWO INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH TWO NEIGHBORHOOD DE-
VELOPMENT AGENCIES FOR THE PERIOD JULY 1, 1980 TO JUNE 30, 1981,
FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 PER YEAR FOR EACH AGREEMENT,
IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT A NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM,
(Title of Resolution
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WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREFOR FROM THE SIXTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Let's take a 15-minute break.
WHEREUPON, THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO A BRIEF RECESS
AT 5:00 P.M. RECONVENING AT 5:05 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS
OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT except for
Commissioners Carollo and Lacasa.
12A. ALLOCATE FU'41DS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY BY "62 STRELT DEVA,LOP-
14E:4T CORPORATION" PROPERTY ADJAC;.NT TO AFRICAN S)UARE PAR;:.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Fosmoen, would you explain into the record what the problem
is with the 162 St. Development Corporation' and why we need to make a grant
for $1,500 to them this afternoon?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, 62 St. Development Corporation has a piece of pro-
perty adjacent to African Square Park and they have asked and we have agreed
-at least at a staff level- that there is a need for that property for expan-
sion and use of African Square. They want to take those funds and reinvest
them into the neighborhood for economic development purposes. The difficulty
comes in that they have identified a particular piece of property for ac-
quisition. They intend to acquire the property, rehabilitate it, and their
use the profits from that project for further reinvestment in the neighborhood.
We have not been able to produce an appraisal on the property next to African
Square in sufficient time for this Commission to act ... for us to bring you a re-
commendation for you to act on acquisition of that property. In the meantime,
the property they are looking at for investment purposes and the funds would be
used to roll over in the community, -it's a deposit to hold that property. So
we are recommending that we allocate $1,500 to the 62nd St. Development
Corporation to permit them to make a deposit on the property that they are
looking at for economic investment purposes with the clear understanding that
(a) those funds would be deducted from any future purchase of the property
adjacent to African Square, and (b) if they are successful in acquiring the
property, any funds that come out of that property would be rolled over in the
community and reinvested for further economic development activities.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, this is really a continuation of the motion of in-
tent already passed by this Commission, and I so move.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this specifically is $1,500 for the immediate need
right now.
tit. Plummer: Yes, I understand.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Father Gibson seconds, further discussion on that
motion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who :coved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-516
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE $1,500.00
AS AN IMMEDIATE ADVANCE FOR THF. 62ND STREET DEVELOPMENT CORP.
TO PERMIT THEM TO MAKE AN INITIAL DEPOSIT ON PROPERTY TO BE
ACQUIRED BY THE CITY, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE FUNDS
WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THE CIT'S COST OF ACQUIRING PROPERTY AD-
JACENT TO AFRICAN SQUARE PARK.
Upon being seconded by Comissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Aayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice Mayor Armando Lacasa
13. EDISO,d-LI'fTLE RIVL:R C.D. AREA AND EDISO.; BUEN4A VISTA L.D.C. -
CONFIRl1ING RESOLUTIOi; AS AMENDED.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on Little River, go ahead.
U.�IDF,;TIFIED SPEAKER: All right, the second part of the
iten that we just dealt with in Allpattah contains the Edison Little River
:argot area in the neighborhood and economic development program. Again,
in the case of 'Wison Little River there were three agencies that applied
to provide services under this contract.. The Little River Commerce Associa-
tion, Tri-City Community Association and the Edison -Buena Vista Local Develop-
ment Corporation. Two things I want to point out. First of all, with re-
gards to the Tri-City Community Association, their proposal -as indicated to
us by letter on June 23- was withdrawn. So, they are no longer under considera-
tion for this proposal, they've withdrawn their proposal. The Edison -Buena Vista
Local Development Corporation proposal was reconsidered by City staff at a
meeting of the community on July 1st for the consideration by the Commission
on .June 26, at your last meeting. The recommendations with regards to Edison
Little River are as follows: The City staff's recommendation is that we con-
tract with the Little River -Commerce Association. The community, or C.D. Ad-
visory Board, at their meeting on July 1st recommended funding for the Edison -
Buena Vista local Development Corporation. One other thing I want you to note
is that is that the amount of the contract that we are talking about for this
program is, of course, $50,000 --that we are talking about for all t'e other
target areas. One note that ought to be made is that as in the case of the
SBUC contract for little Havana, there is the opportunity for the Little River
Commerce ASSUci.ltion -if they are the successful candidate to be awarder: this
contract- will*be In a position to have matching funds provided to them by Dade
County to implement this program.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are there members here from each group that wish
to address this Commission?. Okay, name and address for the record.
Ms. betty J. Graham: I am Betty J. Graham, 290 N.W. 48 St. and I'm the
Edison Little River -Advisory Board Chairperson. I live in the Buena Vista
NSA area. At our last Commission meeting we were instructed to call a meeting
of our Board and present and have the people present proposals before the Board
and make final recommendation. We did that, and we recommended that the Edison -
Buena Vista L.D.C. be funded for economic development in the Edison Little
River area. Our reason for recommending them were: the Little River Chamber
of Commerce is funded by the County already, and this was the beginning start
for members within the community to do something for their own area. They
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have been funded since 1975 and if you take a drive down N.W. 2nd Ave. you
will see the vast need for improvement.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Mr. Donald Bettner: My name is Don Bettner, from the Little River Commerce
Association. My address is 8325 N.E. 2nd Avenue. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor,
on two previous occasions I addressed the Commission, I was very brief. I
think it is important for me and I would derelict in my duty if I didn't
spend a moment or two of your time and my time, and the public's time, to
tell you why the Commerce Association of Little River should be the one
selected for this grant. I will make this very brief. We have been providing
services in Little River since 1977 for economic development. In addition
to that we have been a commerce association for 28 years which gives us
substantial expertise in the administration and handling of such matters as
are being asked for in the performance of the contract as an outreach office.
We have been implementing the most successful -maybe that's our evaluation
revitalization program within Dade County. As a matter of fact, I think a
close analysis will show that the Little River Commerce Association's pro-
gram has been adopted and is being used as a format for this other ... these
development agencies. Our target area that we are describing now is about
90% of commercial activity, it is north of 55th St. excluding the Fashion
Center which has its substantial amount of business activity. We have profes-
sional expertise of work within this area for the last thirty years. We
are ready today. We are on line, there is no breakdown for training purposes
or for start up purposes in providing these services to the community. Part
of this program has been signed by your City staff, it is for a continuing
evaluation of the performance. If we do not perform, certainly we can be
not selected on future funding. My intention and what has been authorized by
me by the Board of Directors of the Little River Commerce Association is to
pledge to the Commission and all those present that we will represent not just
Little River or the guidelines that are expressed by this outreach office bu:
for the entire target area. We took this matter very seriously to the extend
that we voted on the Board's action as to the degree of involvement that
we will have with the target area and it is unrestricted. I think this is
one opportunity where the City Commission has a chance to get additional funds
out of the county, as was mentioned earlier, with your $50,000 if they should
be granted to us we will have matching funds through the County's commitment
of an additional $50,000. One final note I would like to make is our repre-
sentation on the Board. We consider it extremely important to have, as you do-
C.ommissioners and Mayor, impact and input from the community. Our Board is
made up with a racial and social and ethnical background and is integrated.
The Board make-up is available for your review. Let me just :summarize by
saying that we have the expertise, we are on line now performing the same ser-
vices, we will bring you additional funding with a matching grant and we do
honestly represent all groups. Thank you Commissioners and Mayor for your
time.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you, if I may, a question. How many members are in
your Board?
Mr Bettner: We have a Board of 25 members.
Mayor Ferre: Allright, how many of those members are Hispanic and how many
are Black?
Mr. Bettner: We have approximately 22% Black, we have roughly 15% uispanic,
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: So, between one and the other you have 37% either Black or
Hispanic.
Mr. Bettner: I think I might have understated. Mr.Mayor, that would be a
conservative figure.
Mayor Ferre: Yes. How many of those people live in the area.
Mr. Bettner: They all live in the area.
Mayor Ferre: They all live in the area. So...I want Armando and J.L. to hear
this: of the 25 people, they all live in the area and 22% are Black and 15%
are Hispanic, is that what you said?
Mr. Bettner: Approximately, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Allright, you also feel that this is a balance betweeii bankers,
and business people, and working people and people who live in the area...
Mr. Bettner: Indeed, Mayor, we have residents as well as business and profes-
sional people. In addition we have on the Board of Directors the Vice Presi-
dent of First Federal, the Vice Pesident of Amerifirst...
Mayor Ferre: Who is the President of the Board?
Mr. Bettner: I am the President of the Board of Directors,and I'm with
Southern Bell.
Mayor Ferre: You are the President and you work for Southern Bell. An who
is the Vice President?
Mr. Bettner: Jim Hardwood, who is the Vice President of Amerifirst.
Mayor Ferre: Is there an Executive Director?
Mr. Bettner: Our Executive Director is Annette Eisenberg.
Mayor Ferre: And how do you get the funding.
Me. Bettner: Our current funding is through the County which is an extension,
of the original contract with the County. In addition to that, Mr. Mayor, wt
have many private funds being funneled into the organization. This is through
festivities and events that we have established and created and then carried
out throughout the community. In addition we have over 200 members in the
Commerce Association contributing funds.
Mayor Ferre: You have 200 members?
Mr. Bettner: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferrre: All right, further questions?
Ms. 3. J. Graham: Mr. Mayor, I would like to point out, when he refers to
his Board, his Board does live in the area, they live in River River, but his
Board doesn't represent the total area. When we had our elections, it was
official, we all met at Edison, we were elected as the Advisory Board for the
total target area. Buena Vista is considered an NSA area, that is the area
where City staff uses its geographic tabulation to receive community develop-
ment funds. The Little River area is consisting of bankers, and businessmen,
doctors and lawyers. The Buena Vista area consists of low and moderate
income residents. I'd like to defer a little of my time for Mr. Sample to
speak.
Mr. Louis Sample: My name is Louis Sample and I live at 400 N.W. 48 St. 1
am a member of the Edison -Little River Community Development Advisory board.
I am also a member of the Buena Vista Neighborhood Association' Board of
Directors which is NSA, and I'm also Chairman of Intergovernmental Relations
Committee of the Buena Vista Nieghborhood Association. In 1979, residents of
the Buena Vista Neighborhood being NSA, decided that we had a very neglected
area, with deteriorating neighborhood conditions. I would like to `ate a
few facts that we've had to consider before we came up with our local develop-
ment cooperation concept. We noticed that no other neighborhood organization
had done anything in our area about economic development. We noticed that you
yes, did have a Little River Commerce Association, but that association did not
db, any type of economic development in the Edison area or the Buena Vista area.
So we came up with our own concept of a local development coporation and pre-
sented that concept to the Edison -Little River Advisory Board in November of
1979. At the time we presented that concept for the total target area it was
present in the name of "Edison -Buena Vista Little River". Members of the Little
River Commerce Association stated that they did not want us to provide any kind
of economic development in that area with the local development corporation
because they wanted to form their own. Now, we came up with a concept based
on the need of the residents and the deteriorating neighborhood conditions in
that neighborhood. And like I said before, no one has ever provided any eco-
nomic development in that neighborhood from the Little River area. When we look
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at the Little River area we see that that area is composed of 104 of the
total target area. Being composed of 10% of the total target area, it has
not addressed the needs of the blighted areas pursuant to community block
grant guidelines wherein people of low and moderate income are supposed to
participate. There is nothing about low and moderate income people, or
blighted areas in the Little River area. We ask that you allow us to have
this self-help program which was designed by the residents of the Buena
Vista Neighborhood Association. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Questions?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, may I? This outreach program which we
are now considering, the $5(,000 grant, is specifically for the services pro-
vided within those guidelines, and this what our intention is. The Little
River Commerce Association was established to improve - like any other associa-
tion , to improve the business -life style within the area it services, and it
services Little River. Under this grant, this is why we took the Board action
to make sure that the Board was in concurrence with the responsibility to ser-
vice the entire target area and that, Mr. Mayor, is what our intention is.
If I have just a moment, Mr. Mayor, for Lorraine Dunn, to make a very
presentation, she has been with the organization a considerable length of time.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahLad.
Hs. Lorraine Dunn: Lorraine Dunn, 130 N.E. 92nd St. I am members of both the
Little River Commerce Association's Board and of the Edison/Little River Com-
munity Development Neighborhood Advisory Board. I have been on the Task Force
for C.D. for the last eight years. As a matter of fact, there came a time in
1975 when the lack of participation in the South end of the target area was so
apparent and the minutes were approved, and I personally made a motion that the
south end of the area be given some special consideration by staff, from both
the City and the County, who were holding joint meetings with us at the time
to bring them into participation in the C.D. area. This was done, and what has
happened unfortunately is that the election was held in one location only and
that a great many of our people who are low income, are elderly, and are in the
housing project of which Little River has a higher concentration than any other
part of the target area. They were unable to get to this polling place even
though we offered transportation a lot of them were unable to get that far
away.. We asked for a polling place in Little River. It was not granted. We
did have voters' registration there, but aot a polling place even though we
asked for it. We could not go down to 59th St. to vote, therefore, we wound
up with a Board that is at least -out of a 15-member Board there were three
from Little River, the rest were from Buena Vista. I think you'll find ... This
is the way that they voted the other day at the meeting. 1 had to recuse myself
since I sat on both Boards for a conflict of interest situation. I was the only
member from Little River who was on that Board meeting that night. I was not
even allowed to make a motion to put Little River's project into consideration.
I was never slowed to have the floor. I really cannot state that this kind of
Board represents the entire target area. It does not. It represents Buena
Vista and only Buena Vista. Thank you.
Ms. Graham: I disagree with Lorraine. She was able to put a motion before
the. Board and she suggested there would be no one in the Board to second it.
It is not true that she was not able to put it before the Board, out I would
like to say to this Commission here, would you choose me to prepare or plan
for your community where you live as opposed to the people who live in it?
Certaltily, you would recognize my expertise and my know-how, but you too would
like to feel closely about the area where you live. For years the County has
been putting C.D. fuqds into the area and we received no benefits. We have
all been before the County Commissioners and they've said -go to the City. We
pay County and City taxes. Now we are before the City. When we were organized
as a great neighborhood association they said the best way to get funded is to
get involved with the community development process. We got involved with
the community development process and we got our community to vote and they
elected us. It is not our fault that the Little River area did not vote for
only three people. It is a democratic Board and we try to be that way. When
we first inaugurated, we wanted to work with Little River. They choose not
to work with us, they want to isolate from us and do nothing for us.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, questions from the Commission? Statements'
Mr. Plummer: Mr.Mayor, as I hear it expressed here there seems to be a
problem, or as I can see the problem, the people of Buena Vista feels that
they have got really no response from the Little River people. It is almost
like a dividing _ line between different areas from town which for the purposes
of the target area is one. Now, it seems like to me the obvious thing to do
since the area of Edison Little River seems to be the bigger of the two areas
as opposed to Buena Vista, if we, for example, were to give the contract to
the Edison Commerce -if that is the proper name- with assurances that 50%
of that effort and money would be used in Buena Vista .... now, listen to me,
or conversely, if we were to give it to your group, we would want assurances
that 50% of it would be back the other way. Now, you know, when the shoe is
on the other foot, that's what happens. I don't see it any other way, I
really don't.
Mr. Graham: Well, there was another group that appeared just before we did
and they had the same situation. Now, here we are. Are you going to be as
fair to us? You asked that the Board make the decision and the Board made it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Lacasa, if you quote Disraeli I'll recognize you.
Mr. Lacasa: I would quote, Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Plummer: Quote who?
Mr. Lacasa: I am going to quote myself...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, quote who?
Mr. Lacasa: Disraeli.
Mr. Plummer: Who is Disraeli?
Mr. Carollo: He was the liberal conservative of England?
Mr. Plummer: A liberal conservative on this Commission? Never.
Mayor Ferre: You obviously don't watch television. Go Ahead.
Mr. Lacasa: I am going to put myself, as I stated in the previous situa-
tion of Allpattah. I do believe that it is essential for the community
development process that those community developments that have been elected
by the people, be strengthened and supported by this Commission, and there-
fore, I'm going to make a motion that this grant be given to the Little
River Development Authority.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Is there a second? (BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE
PUBLIC RECORD) Wait a moment, there is a motion on the floor and....
Mr. Lacasa: My motion, if you want me to clarify it, is the whole $50,000
for the Little River Development Authority. No strings attached, as far as
partiion of the monies, the whole grant to the organization's work according
to the standards of the staff of the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion on the floor. Is there a second t, he motion?
What's the name of your organization, Ma'am?
Ms. Graham: Edison -Buena Vista L.D.C.
Mr. Lacasa: Okay, that's the one, that's the one I mean.
Rev. Gibson: I second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, there is a second and a motion, is there further discu-
ssion?
Mr. Bedner: Mr. Mayor, 4s it -onrr for !-_-sve further dis-
cussion?
Mayor Ferre: It's not supposed to be that way, but I'll recognize you.
Mr. Bedner: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll make it very brief again.
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The only thing I can say at this point is that, yes, we have a good deal :f
input from the community from both sides. And yes, we do have a division of
ideas. I think we do have the same objectives in mind to establish that for
the community which we are trying to accomplish with the $50,000. $50,000
will not do a great deal against what is needed to be done. But I think what
we need to look at is what we are paying the City staff for to make the recom-
mendation applying these funds where they will do the most good. If we are
not going to use their recommendations, of the City staff, we ought to have
the City staff's dollars ... let us work with the dollars of the City's staff.
Put them out of business. But our point is why have the City staff review
these needs in the organization and make recommendations if under these situa-
tions we are not really able to use their expertise. The Buena Vista and the
C.D. Board do have a feeling for the area and they do have emotion for the
area but I think that the folks that are really trying to get the most mileage
out of the dollars are the ones that we need to look at for good, intelligent
decisions where we spend money. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: You see, let me tell you what is happening here, and it is not
an uncommon occurrence on this Commission. What is happening here is that tht.
Gity's Administration is going through a logical sequence, analysis and recom-
mendation. But we have a community group and we elect a process and the Federal
Government did this, and we in concurrence and have gone ahead and let their, com-
mit themselves or form C.D. groups. Then they deliberate, and what this Com-
mission has been doing is..we did it in Culmer, okay? In Culmer, we agreed with
the C.D. group recommendation. Now, that one happened to coincide with the
Administration's, that's what they wanted to do.
`tr. Bedner: I get it just the opposite, Mr. Mayor, but....
Mayor Ferre: Okay, we agreed with them, that's better. Okay, I accept that
correction. In this case, in the case previously in Allpattah, well,we went
pretty much the same way. We did not ignore the wishes of the C.D. group and
here, these people are coming up with a recommendation and you've already seen
that there is a motion and a recommendation to follow the recommendation.
Mr. Bedner: Would the $50,000 that we are talking about be worth the
additional $50,000 that we'll lose from leveraging from the County since it has
already been committed by the County to provide an additional $50,000. Could
you not find within your world at all to provide us with $50,000?
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you something, is there any way in which...I hate to
lose $50,000 from the County. Let me ask you a question, thinking up ahead.
If we were to form a new Board that would be 50% yours and 50% of them, okay?
If they have six members, you have six members, or five and five, that way we
would get the $50,000 from the County, because I hate to lose that $50,000.
Would that be acceptable to you?
Ms. Graham: ...Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: Before you ... you know, you are rushing in to answer, you have
thought this out, have you? You are willing to give up $50,000 from the
County? Go ahead, make your statement.
Ms. Graham: Will the County give us $50,000.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, that's what I'm trying to tell you if you want r listen.
Ms. Graham: So then what you are saying is...
Mayor Ferre: It will give $100,000 instead of $50,000, that's what I'm
Say i 11g.
Mr. Lacasa: And that would be conditoned upon what, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: See, the tragedy of what's going to happen over here is that
if we deny these people $50,000, the County has already given them $50,000 in
matching, okay? What I'm saying is that if we give them $50,000 it's $50,000.
If we give it like that, it's $100,000.
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Mr. Lacasa: If we give it like what, together?
Mayor Ferre: Jointly. Jointly. In other words, have a board of
directors that they would appoint. Okay? Half of the memebers and they
appoint half of the members. And if you don't get along, you come
back here and we'll...
Mr. Lacasa: I really, my motion is, was in a different sense. Well, I
can see the two, I can see the two organizations here again, like it the
case of Allapattah, working together for the purpose of improving
the area. That is the common goal. However...
Mayor Ferre: The County grant is to them, not to them.
Mr. Lacasa: ...Great. I welcome that and I congratulate them. So let
them have their fifty thousand dollars from the County...
Mayor Ferre: They won't get it. They won't get it.
Mr. Lacasa: They won't get it? Why won't they get it?
Mayor Ferre: That's why you have to listen to all of this, you see?
This has been explained. The County has said, we like what you are
proposing. We'll give you fifty thousand dollars if the City matches it.
If you deny them the fifty thousand, in effect, what you are doing is you
are throwing away fifty thousand dollars. And what I am saying is...
Mr. Lacasa: I understood...
Mayor Ferre: ...I'm sure that they would rather have one hundred
thousand to deal with than fifty thousand, especially if they have
equal say. If you'll, I don't want to be a Solomon in this, but
obviously, the solution to this problem is if you get together. If
you get together, you have one hundred thousand dollars to split up
rather than fifty thousand. Isn't that better? Its got to be better.
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, going back, just a minute. Going back to this
question, first I have two objections and let me tell you which objections
I have. I am not going to vote here on the CD monies of the City of
Miami based on what the County decides. Because actually, what we would
L•c: doing is doing this because the County has come out and said that the'.,
like the project of this gentleman here and they will be actually
determining by vote indirectly. So, once that's clear, then I go into
the second thing. These people have the representation according to the
same rules that we have established for the other Community Development
Target Areas. Therefore, they should be the one representing the area.
If there is a board to be formed by the two organizations, fine I have
no problem with that. But then instead of being a six to six proposition,
it should be at least a seven to five proposition because these people
are the ones that have the representation. So with that situation I nave
no problems as long as it is established that the people having the
burden of the representation of the area are those elected by the people
of the area.
Mr. Bedner• Mr. Mayor, I will under the condition that the County will
match the funds, of course. Well see, the problem is Mr. Mayor, when the
matching funds are granted, it is granted to the Little River Comm ce
Association. And if these funds that you establish are not give to the
Little River Commerce Association, the City may not...I mean, the
County may not match that.
Mayor Ferre: Well then that's something that we'll have to ... and then,
Tony, excuse, it will be up to you and Mr. Fosmoen. Then I don't know
who in the County would be your dounterpart that you deal with, but I
would request that if this were to be amended that way and passed, that
you then call the County and see if you can lobby for them to accept.
And tell them that the reason we've done it this way is because we want
the CD community input. We also want to have the Little River Commerce
Association involved, and this is the solution. But I think Lacasa's
point, that they should ha�e the majority of the votes is really a
reasonable thing. I think it's not going to be as bad as you might
think. I think you'll be able to work things out.
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Mr. Bettner: Mr. Mayor, do you not see a parallel between the Allapattah
decision you just rendered a moment ago and what we have now in the
Little River -Buena Vista area. You know, the Little River area is a
highly commercialized operation on the fringes of what we had as the
riot area...
Mayor Ferre: Well, look, the answer is no. And there is already two
votes, and the third vote is telling you no. Okay?
Father Gibson: So he would not leave under any misapprehension, I
didn't hear you dispute this...
Mr. Bettner: That's right, Theodore Gibson, I did not.
Father Gibson: ...and I was listening for this. She charges that all
the time you have been running the show, you haven't done a dog gone
thing about their needs and wants. You didn't deny that.
Mr. Bettner: Commissioner Gibson, let me explain something to you. The
reason I didn't deny that because it is a factual statement, yet it is
not based on good judgment, because the Little River Commerce Association,
was formulated for purposes within the Little River area. It is not
to be used for areas outside that. But let me explain something. I
just recently attended a meeting in Buena Vista with a Dr. Laskey, whoit,
you may be familiar with. Dr. Laskey has a very energetic organization
going in the East Buena Vista area for neighborhood self development
and self improvement. And I'm from Little River, I have no business
being down there as a Little River President because it is not my
responsibility to be in that territory. Yet I felt if we could help
them, and our office is always open, if we could help them in any way,
I was glad to qo down there.
Father Gibson: Well now, you know, I don't like to do this but maybe
I have to do this. Who is the more deprived?
Mayor Ferre: Father, lets get on with the vote.
Mr. Bettner: I don't understand the question, Father.
Father Gibson: You don't?
Mr. Bettner: No, sir I don't.
Father Gibson : Now, if you tell me you didn't hear me that would be
one thing...
Mr. Dettner: No, I...
Father Gibson: ...but if you tell me you don't understand me, man
you just blew my mind.
Mr. Bettner: If you mean by the type of area that we are dealing with,
Father Gibson.
Father Gibson: I saying you have tvA situations. Which is the more
deprived? I'm darn sure you heard that. Which is the more deprived
of the two?
Mr. Bettner: Between Little River and Buena Vista area? Is that what
you mean?
Pathur t;ibson: Yes.
Mr. Bettner: I don't know if you can honestly answer that, Father.
If you have driven through Little River, I think it would be a
questionable area.
Father Gibson: All right, I've made my point. Lets vote.
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Mayor Ferre: Now do you want to restate this motion?
Mr. Lacasa: My motion goes like this; that the City grant goes to the
Buena Vista -Edison Development Authority.
Mayor Ferre: Jointly with...
Mr. Lacasa: Now, that's the City money. If, and subject to the
County giving fifty thousand dollars to the area, to the Little River
Development... Commerce Association, if they have that as a condition
precedent, to match our fifty thousand dollars, then lets have a
joint operation as long as this organization, the Buena Vista -Little
River Development Authority has the majority of the members of the
board to be formed. And the official representation of the area before,
at least this Commission.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion, is there a second?
Father Gibson: Second.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Ferre: I didn't hear a word, you're not on the record. You're
out of order. If you want to make a statement into the record, please
stand up, state your name and make our statement. We have a motion
and a second, we're about it vote.
Lorraine Dunn: I think it's vitally necessary that your
motion include in it the way in which this board is to be formed and the
conditions under which it is to be ruled.
Mayor Ferre: Ma'am. I think that is up for your joint deliberations
of these two organizations.
Lorraine Dunn: Somebody has to start it. Whose going to chair it?
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you. My recommendation is that they appoint
six members and you appoint five. Now if you want to make it differently,
that's your problem.
Lorraine Dunn: Are you aware that the contract that we have with
the County would not go to that group if they did give us the money?
Mayor Ferre: Are you aware that that's exactly what the City of Miami
Commission is trying to work out.
Lorraine Dunn: Okay then. I just wanted to try and keep things
straight in my own head.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion?
Father Gibson: But Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Lacasa: Lorraine, I want to make...
Father Gibson: ...wait, wait. Are they aware that our fifty thousand
dollars won't go to them.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll
Father Gibson: Right, people don't throw away money, man.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-517
A RESOLUTION CONDITIONALLY ALLOCATING $50,000 OF
SIXTH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS
TO THE JOINT VENTURE OF LITTLE RIVER ASSOCIATION/
EDISON-BUENA VISTA LOCAL DFVFWPMFNT CORP. (LDC),
A COMMUNITY BASED JOINT VENTURE, FOR THE PURPOSE
OF IMPLEMENTING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM
IN THE TARGET AREA OF EDISON-LITTLE RIVER FOR THE
CONTRACT PERIOD COMMENCING JULY 1, 1980 AND ENDING
JUNE 30, 1981; FURTHER PROVIDING FOR AN AUTOMATIC
ALLOCATION TO EDISON-BUENA VISTA LDC IN THE EVENT
THERE IS NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED
HEREIN
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner Joe Carollo
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
ON ROLL CALL:
mr. Plummer: I don't know. I really don't know.
Mayor Ferre: Well close your eyes and vote.
Mr. Plummer: No, these backward motions...
Mayor Ferre: There's nothing backward about it. It's as simple as it
can be. What he's saying is, this is a joint board between tnese two
groups. They've got the majority of the board and call the County
and see if they'll accept the fifty thousand, put the fifty thousand
into the joint group. These people represent the CD area. That's all.
Mr. Lacasa: But I want to clarify something here. I want something
very clear. That joint situation is...
Mayor Ferre: They have the majority.
Mr. Lacasa: ...is subject to, and subject to the County grantino `he
fifty thousand dollars to this organization. Otherwise, the ... my
motion states that the fifty thousand dollars of the City goes strictly
to this particular group.
Mayor Ferre: I understand. We understand that.
Mr. Plummer: We're voting now. Go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Well there's not been a vote, but let me ask this.
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Mayor Ferre: yeah, there's two votes so far. How many people are you
called?
Mr. Ongie: I called Mr. Plummer first.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sorry.
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Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Could we not rephrase the motion this way?
That it would be understood that the Little River Commerce Association,
don't start shaking and jumping until I'm finished. If they can get
the additional matching money from the County, would dedicate fifty
percent of the money to Edison Buena Vista. I'm just, the way you're
laying it out, the County is going to say, hey, forget it.
Mayor Ferre: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: And then we're down to fifty thousand when we could be
getting a hundred. If we ma... look, why can't we do in the name of
Edision-Little River Commerce with this understanding, that the County
match it fifty percent, and that if they do, fifty percent goes to this
organization. Then we've done what we tried to do from the beginning.
If it is not the case, it comes back to this Commission. I'm just,
you know, what I'm looking at here, if I was sitting ... God forrid if
I was sitting on the County Commission. As Father says, what you can't
do through the front door, you can't do through the back. Well, okay.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead anc vote.
*Mr. Plummer: Okay. On a vote, I think we're throwing money out thy,
window when w�2 could satisfy and do twice as much for the community.
And the way that the motion is worded, unfortunately, I have to vote:
negatively.
*;Mayor Ferre: In voting with the motion, I think it is clearly understood
that it is the intention of this Commission to work this out with the
County so that there will be one hundred thousand dollars expended in
that area, and that it is the intention of trying to get these two
groups together to work together. Here, I don't see that there's that
much of a problem. I think these two groups can work together. The
fact that I would have been perfectly willing to have a joint fifty
fifty board, but I understand that you would have a majority because that
gives you the assurance that your area is going to be properly taken
::are of. And I'm confident that there will be a good working relationship
with these two groups. I vote yes.
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Graham: Mr. Mayor, may I ask a question?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ma'am.
Mrs. Graham: Will we be permitted to hire the director?
Mayor Ferre: That's up to your board to decide. Your board will
make that decision. Okay?
14. NEGOTIATE FOUR CONTRACTS (FORt4ALIZIWG MOTIONS PASSED JUNE 26)
Neighborhood Development Agencies
Mayor Terre: All right, is there a motion on thirty-two now that we've
passed thirty? That's redoing what we've already done before with the
other CD's.
Father Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson. Plummer, do you want to second that?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
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Mayor Ferro: Plummer seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll
on thirty-two.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-518
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE
AND EXECUTE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH
CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES, FOR AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 PER YEAR EACH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
IMPLEMENTING A NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM-S,
WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED THEREFOR FROM THE SIXTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. THESE AGREEMENTS WILL
BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE. PERIOD JULY 1, 1980 TO JUNE 30, 1981
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
15. AWARD BID - EDISOII-LITTLE RIVER COMMERCIAL CENTER CD
BEAUTIFICATIO14 - PHASE II - B-4458
Mayor Ferre: Edison Little River CD Beautification Phase. Is there a
motion on twenty-five.
Mr. Plummer: t".ove.
Father Gibson: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer, seconded by Gibson. Further discussion
on twenty-five? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-519
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF P.N.M. CORPORATION ,
I14 THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $143,7091 TOTAL BID OF THE
PROPOSAL, FOR EDISON-LITTLE RIVER COMMERCIAL CENTER
C.D. BEAUTIFICATION - PHASE II; ALLOCATING THE AbfOUNT
OF $143,709 FROM THE "STH AND 6TH YEAR FEDERAL
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS" TO COVER THE
CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT
OF $15,808 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID•FUND THE AMOUNT OF $2,874 TO
COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING
LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
16. ACCEPT STUDY - E. H. FRIEND AND COMPANY - ALTERNATIVES
ON CITY OF MIAMI PENSION PLANS
Mayor Ferre: We're now going to take up item number sixteen.
Mr. Plummer: What number?
Mayor Ferre: Number fifteen, I beg your pardon. 1-5. Edward H. Friend
and Company study of funding alternatives, dated June 18, 1980, concerning
the City's Pension Program. Now, Mr. Manager. The last time this came
up, Mr. Plummer requested that members of the Commission and that
the various pension boards get copies of the study made by the Edward
H. Friend and Company. Now, were they submitted to the various groups?
Mr. Grassie: That has been done.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, now go ahead and proceed.
Mr. Howard Gary: Mayor and Commissioners, if you recall, during the
budgetary process, the City Commission passed an appropriation for the
financing of the Pension System and Plan totalling approximately fifteen
point four million dollars, which reflected five percent more than
the City appropriated for pensions the prior years. But approximately
four point nine million dollars less than what the actuarial report
had recommended. The City Commission at that time directed that the
City administration through the City Manager, prepare an actuarial
report that would reflect a number of things. Mainly an acceptable
actuarial methodology which would produce and increase of City contributions
within the City's budgetary constraints but sufficient to protect and
insure the benefits of the prior and present employees. Which means that
any actuarial report would not limit the benefits that had already
been granted to existing employees. Secondly, that the City Commission
endeavor to maintain parity between the System and Plan both as to
benefits and funding levels. Now with regard to the actuarial report
t►:at has been prepared, we have the E.H. Friend report which was given
to both boards, through the Pension Administrator, an entire copy, which
recommends that the peniion for next year should be...I'm sorry, for the
current year, should be approximately fifteen point four million dollars
or approximately one point four million dollars less than what's
budgeted presently. Now, the changes that have been made in the
actuarial report to reflect this amount is; number one, the investment
returns have been raised from seven to eight percent and that has
generated approximately one point five million dollars. Secondly, it
has recommended in this actuarial report which is from E. H. Friend and
Company, that the level of past service liability, or the unfunded liability,
instead of being at a constant dollar amount will be at a percentage
amount which means that we will contribute five percent each year to the
retirement of the unfunded liability over the next thirty-two years. With
that in mind, we can first of all, not reduce any benefits to the current
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Mr. Gary (continued): retirees. Secondly, we can fund the pension
plan on a sound basis, and thirdly, it would be within the appropriation
adopted by the City Commission.
Mr.Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may.
Mayor Ferre: All right, members of the Commission... hold on Joe. You
have an attorney that you wanted to put on, and then if you want, I'll
recognize you for a statement and then I'm sure we have the opposition
here that wants to...
Mr. Carollo: I just have one quick question, if I may.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Grassie, is the Director of Finance, Mr. Gunderson
here?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Grassie. I sent Mr. Gunderson home because I told him
I could handle this matter. So he's home.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Howard, I appreciate that. I'm sure you can handle
most of it but since Mr. Gunderson, himself, has worked and been
responsibile for a lot of this here, I think he should be here to answer
quite a few questions and I don't want, you know, make any problems
for anyone at this point here, but I would like to see this item
deferred until the next Commission meeting until Mr. Gunderson is here.
Mr. Gary: Okay. I'd like to make one response. It wasn't done out
of any malice or anything'but...
Mr. Carollo: No, I'm sure it wasn't, Howard. Not from your part.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you, as I understand, there's a legal problem
on this. And if you would permit, Mr. Carollo, and I will recognize
that as a motion after we hear from the attorney. Because I'm afraid
we may not for legal reasons be able to defer this item. But go ahead.
Mr. Robert Sundak: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is
Robert Sundak from the law firm of Paul, Landy, Beilley and Harper.. We
were retained by the Commissioners as special counsel in connection with...
Mayor Ferre: That's Bob Paul not Dan Paul. Is that right?
Mr. Sundak: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Just want to make sure.
Mr. Sundak: We were retained to defend the suit brought by the firm
of Paul and Thompson which is Bob*Paul... I'm sorry, which is Dan Paul.
And in addition, to represent the City in connection with two suits
seeking writs of mandamus against the City Commission. All of these
suits deal with the City's pension contributions made by the Cit%,
Commission every year. The mandamus suits deal with this years pension
contribution which was voted on by the City last fall. The City is
faced, very shortly, with the decision as to the amount of the contribution
to be made for the next fiscal year. And unless a determination is
made rather soon as to the actuarial basis on which the City Commission
is to determine next years contribution, the City may well be faced with
more law suits. And much as my law firm likes to defend law suits,
the City Commission may rather hvoid them. Especially if they have to
pay outside counsel. In any event, the issue which is raised in the
mandamus law suits which is dirlctly applicable to the Edward Friend
report deals with the issue of how the City Commission is to determine
the amount of its _-ontribution in 'any given year to the pension system
and the pension plan. And by Pension ordinance, the City Commission
is to make that determination, but the board of trustees of each of
those two pension plans have argued in the law suits, that the City
Commission has to follow certain recommendations of those pension boards
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Mr. Sundak (continued): rather than the determination of the City
Commission based on the information available to it. It is the City's
position in that law suit that that's not true, that the pension
ordinance gives the City Commission the right to make that determination,
and in any event, it would be a very serious constitutional question
as to whether the City Commission could, in fact, delegate that power
away to some board other than the elected body of the City. And as a
result, the Friend report which was requested by the City Commission is
appropriately before the City Commission at this time, because it's on
the basis of information such as the Friend Report which was requested
by the City Commission, that the Commission make3 the determination
as co what the appropriate amount of contribution will be in any given
year. I'm not an actuary and so I won't speak to the actuarial figures
in the report itself. The only point that I would want to make is that
since the Commission knows better than anyone else of all of the fiscal
contraints that the City is constantly faced with, and all of t'.ie
decisions that the City needs to make in ter;i.; o;� allocating its limited
resources. The demands of the pension plan and system being one of those
demands on the City's resources, is entirely appropriate and within the
City Commission's duties to investigate and obtain all of the facts
necossary in order t) make a determination as to how best to fund that
pension plan.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Knox, do you concurr with the attorney's
recommendation to the/City? Legal recommendation?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, Mr. Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, at this time then, I would like to ask for a
deferral for the reason stated.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. I will permit you to make that in the form of a
motion because the Chair's ruling on this is because of the statements
made by counsel here and subscribed to by the City Attorney, we cannot
defer this but I will, of course, permit you to make that in the form of
a motion and if there is three concurring votes that will be fine.
Mr. Carollo: It certainly in the form of a motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there's a motion that this iter. be deferred.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Its been seconded. Do you want to wait for Father Gibson.
Mr. Plummer: Not really. No, no, well, either way we've had it. Two
two vote is a denial.
Mayor Ferre: It's the same thing as if we had three.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
tdr. Plummer: I'm telling Carollo he should have let the other two makes
the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, do you want to wait for Father Gibson? All right,
there's a motion on the floor, Father, that this item be deferred. It
was made by Commissioner Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Plummer. We
have requested the attorney's to qive us an opinion. The opinion was
that this is a matter of grave importance to the City. As I understood,
there was a recommendation that we shouldn't defer this item for legal
reasons. The City Attorney concurred with that. I ruled that it would
not be deferred. I have Mr. Carollo the right, which he has obviously,
to make a motion, he made the motion for deferral, Plummer seconded it.
We're about to vote on that. Call the roll.
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Mayor Ferre: Well I think the administration should answer that
question.
Mr. Plummer: Well yeah, there's a lot of questions I think can be
answered. This is the very report the State of Florida had been
asking for in November and finally in .larch, told the City to either
put up or shut up and the City kept saying that they couldn't put up
so they shut up. And yet the City was getting roasted by the State of
Florida just waiting for this report. I think we need to know why the
magic wand of the computer was not able to kick out the information
so that the actuarial report could in fact be done. It was not. We
have still not received from the actuary simply because the City's
computer was not on line. All of these things, Mr. Mayor, for example,
when this report was written, I think we were looking at a totally
different financial situation in this country, of about eighteen percent
was prime. We're not back down to eleven. Ware looking at seven to
eight percent assumptions which this fund has not been able to do. These
are questions that can only be answered by the writer of this study.
Mayor rerr - bit. Plummer, I respect your position on this. I understand.
I want to tell you that as strongly as you feel that this item shou'.d
be deferred for this or what,ver reason, it was deferred once. I strongly
feel that this is a m«tter cf _,rave crisis for the City. I think this
a study done by one of the mo highly respected actuarial companies
in the country. These :)cople t.,..,. are coming before us trying to
represent them, they represent a: or(.i..za:ion that is suing the City
of Miami and is trying to destroy the city o: Miami in the law suits
that are pending before us. We are having to defend tho City of Miami,
and the citizens of Miami against this: arbitrary, capricioub, and unfair
attack. And I for one, am no longer hesitating as to where I :_ .13.
And I stand with the people of this community, and I'm not about keep
on perpetrating a pension system and a plan that is continually taking
away the funds that are sorely need to have more policemen, and more
firemen, and more services so that we can have the best, highest, richest
_,ension plan in the State of Florida. Ten times batter than what the
Sate has, and I for one, it's long overdue for this Commission to have
the guts to stand up and call a spade a spade. And it's long over due
for this Commission to stop giving away the City of Miami. And it's
long overdue for us, and I'm going to tell. you something on the record
to you understand where I am. If I'm.pressed further, I'm for turning
this whole thing over to the State, if we can legally, and it we can't
do it legally, that we start a new pension plan for those that are
coming behind us and let the State worry about it. Because this is a
pension system that is so much better than what the State has, and yet
we keep getting pressed, and pressed for things that are unreasonable,
and that I certainly as a member of this Commission cannot and will no
longer accept. And I want to say, that as far as I'm concerned, this is
nothing new. This didn't happen in a week or a month, this is something
that's been going on for years and years. I want to admit to a mistake.
I made a mistake in voting, when I voted to create these independent boards.
And if there is any legal way of reversing that, here's one vote t,-" s
going for that. We're going to put a control to this thing, we're going
to bring it back into the reality of the world and we're going to bring
it back to something that is responsible and reasonable. And that
response to the people of Miami and not to the employees who are
l:elf serving themselves. So I'm not about to put it off any longer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, trying to an�,we,. _.ome of the statements which
you have made, I will only pick on those which I have a disagreement. As
to the, number one, State Plan ap opposed to the City Plan being the best...
Mayor Ferre: It's worse.
Mr. Plummer: No, it's not. And let me tell you because I am familiar
somewhat with thn State plan. Mr.'Silver can speak more. Remember,
a retiree is looking to the day that he has served his city, or his state,
or his county loyally. What's his dollars in hand. Mr. Mayor,presently
the City of Miami is paying two and one half percent per year of service
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THE}JAIPON, ON MOTION OF CCMMISSIGNFR CAROLLO,
DULY SFC(+NDFD BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, THE
A)30VF-DI9rUSSFD MOTION FAILFD BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: (7crnmissioncr Joe Carollo
Commissioner .3. L. Plummer
NOES: Commissio.er (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vise,. -Mayor Armando Laca,,
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Mayor Ferre: Now the Chair will recognize the learried counsellor and
State Representative, and representative of one of the pension mans.
Mr. Run Silver: For the record, inv na::ie is F.oa Silver, attorney for the
Board of Trustees in the Rr tire:,.,, t r'lan. I ;r, sorry, I didn't knew that
1 would be able to try or—" tr rs•:a"ie thc ;.n a matter th.it was
already voted ur,01,. . .1:".6 1-1:,,t ,9 111_tlL: k'it hard t.' .'4c).
Mayor Ferre: Weil, that's fint:. T:,w: I won't rec.grkize you at ,his rims,
bu:. V.'C' i . come back and recognize you on the issue t ha+_ conics forward.
So proceed then with the statement.
Mr. Plummer: The administration has mane their statement as I...
Mayor Ferre: Is there.: anything else you want to add?
Mr. Grassie: Not at this point, unless the City Cou-,nisslon has a question.
XX ',iianner: We1i yoai., I've go;. some questions. May I speak to the
representative of Edward E. Frir:nri an: Company. Is he here? There's
certain question:, that. 1 feel need to be asked and only the person who
,wrote the report can answer them truthfully. Or, knowing how he came
about his conclusions.
Mr. Grassie: We haven't asked the Friend Company to be represented here,
Commissioner, touay.
Mayor Ferre: Well, in fairness on tl,is thin❑, that's something that should
liavu been requested when we deferred this item last time. They were not
here last timt_. And, you know, if you wanted them here we should have Baia
wnc-n you made the motion to deter, that you wanted the people here. I
would imagine that the information given to us speaks for itself. If you...
:+lr. Plummer: No, it doesn't.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would think that in a matter as important as
t.:.is, that our Finance Director would be present regardless of whether he
even wants to be present. I mean, always in the past...
Mayor Ft,rr0-. We're not talking about the Finance Director. He's talking
about Mr. }'ricrac}, I moan, the Edward F. Friend and Company.
Mr. 1-lummer: Wc]' bir. Mayor, my questions ^annot be answered by anyone
in the administration. Thuy would have to Dv to the writer of this
!:tu+ly. You know, some of the questions can bo answered by administration.
Why this, thing wa:i dated January the leth and the Commission never saw
it until June which is the...
M,iyor Ferre: Wien was it dater?
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Mr. r2ummer: January lb*.h of this year. Six months ago and we never saw
it and now it's here on an emergency crisis and telling us that if we
don't move immediately that it's our fault.
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Mr. Plummer (contin,:k.!d): of that employee. I think you need to know
that that same employee, with the State of Florida pres,intly is drawing
three percent. One half percent more.
Chief Jaremko: iot so.
Mr. Plummer: Not so?
Chief Jaremko: Sir, it was true until last year. The State...
Mr. Plummer: They dropped it from three?
,Chief Jaremko: Yes.
Mr.Plummer: Okay, then I stand corrected. The poirt that I think, Mr.
Mayor, needs to be said, the law suit in some areas I agree with, and
some I disagree with. All right? But I think the thing that hAs to
be said, that possibly in some areas that law suit is eight poin::s,
Ron, or nine? Eight counts. Already two of those counts have
already been adjudicated. An(? this City was wrong. Now if the Cit,,
was wrong, it was wrong, and we h:.ve to make ar,ends for wrongs of t::ce
past.
Mayor. Ferre: WE.':e going t( win in appeal.
Mr. F lummer: . Well that c,,ulk right or you'r,, wrong. All I'm
paying to you is my gr.:at<:st uo:. i this thing 1-, the fact of the
changing of the assumption. Loy i" ,iciple. A f..ir as in unfunded
liability you take the remaining years, wh_-h I is thirty-two,
and you divide it into the unfunded liability plug accrued involvement.
my concern is an cia.ht percent assumptio-: is no, going to L: Sufficient
to cover the obligations. That's what 1'r, worried about. Th,,
percent to me is not the material point. Is the City in thirty-t�.•,
years going to be able to assume and take care of those obligations
already created. And I can only have that answer if the man whc wroto
thii report tells roc that he was writing this rep.-)rt back during the
;:rime of eighteen and nineteen percent, I could agree that eight
was sufficient return. But based on eleven, car, I assume that this fund
is going to draw eight percent. My concern is no, :tis not. And this
City, not today or possibly not while any one of us are sitting on this
Commission, are not going to be faced wit:l that problem. But in the
thirty-two years down towards the end, the bubbler is gcinq to squeeze ana i::',
going to break like it did in 1939, and this fund went br:-kc. I cj
feel that it is obligatory that the people who wn,te this repc):t shoul:l
be here to exFlain what conditions they were working under at the time
they wrote this report. Times change. Six months, look what has
i:appe%ed in six months in just the prime rate. I bought certificates
six months ago and I got thirteen point eight five. Those same certificates
today I'm getting nine and it's still going down.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, counsellor.
Mr. Sundak: Excuse me, just as a point of information for the CorSion.
The assumption of the Friend report is a seven percent assumption r..1-1:er
than eight. The..as I understand the assumption, it's a seven percent
assumption. Ana it's an assumption over the next thirty-two years as to
what the rate of interest on the investments are going to be rather than
the fluctuations over a few months period. And...
Mr. Plummer: Counsellor, you're not jo.,_ to, I don't believe, stand
there before this Commission, I wouldn't, and make any assertions that
this could be adequate for the next thirty-two years. You don't have
a crystal ball and neither do
Mr. Sundak: Mr. Commissioner; I,
'm not an actuary and I gather neither are
you...
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
1st
Mr. Sundak: ...However, this was the actuarial firm that's been retained
by the pension plan itself.
Mr. Plummer: Counsellor, are you aware, that not in the one that I
represented, the System, but in the Plan that there has not beer. sufficient
monies to pay the retirees. Are you aware of that?
Mr. Sundak: No, sir, I'm not.
Ms. Plummer: You should be.
Mr. Sundak: That's not my understanding, sir.
Mr. Plummer: It's not your understanding.
Mr. Sundak: No, sir.
11r. Plummer: Who are you getting your information from?
Mr. Sundak: I'm getting information the same place you are, sir.
Mr. Plummer; Well , r ;.cr. my i r form,it inn tel Is mo t i.,t t money has bwer.
-cent to the mor,u— w,.Auagers at.ci it ha,i to i,c, sent hark hec,iuse th, y didi" t
have suffici. t:t. funds. Mr. Gary, ynu are more familiar with that than
I am. Am I right or am I wrong?
'dr. Gary: I"m not sure of that. Elena is here she probably could tell
you.
Mr. Plummer: 14oll all right. If I'm wrong, please say so. I don't mind
being corrected.
t:rs. Flena Rodriguez: I'm Elena Rodriguez. I'm the present adr•,i:.istrat r
cf both pensic% funds. You're right. They liquidated one million two
in order to meet payrolls.
`Sr. Plurmer: Counsellor...
.Mrs. F,,driquez: ...And the reason; they didn't have to liquidate more is
because they were usin�3 current emplovoe contributions whici-, amounted to
about two million dollars to help defray those payrclls. 1-1-,ey would
have had to liquidate over three million dollars if it wcr,,r,'t f:,r that.
Mr. Plummer: You see, a little bit of information is dangerous. Are yc..
aware that this City has not for the past. twu years been diligent in,
col:ccting the money from Metropolitan Dade County?
Mr. Sundt:: Commissioner Plummer, as you know, I'm a lawyer, and I'm
a layyer, special counsel for the City on the law suits. I don-itwork
full time on the Pension Plans and on the matters that you are asking.
NO, sir, I'm not aware of that.
Mr. rlummer: Well I think you should be, really even for the in.-I..tation
of the law suit. I really think you should be informed.
Mr. Grassier Cores is:7ioner Plummer, to repeat the basic point -that was Ueing
made- with regard to thc law suit. The basic dilemma in front of the City
t:; ti,.rt unic:::s yc a rhan,le the posture of t1— City with regard to this
what you ;imply do is put the City of Miami in a posture
where it can bu aq.ain sued, very soon for the same reason. So in terms
(if wh,--t-her or not, and we of course can verify any impression that you
may have with regard to financial.transactions in the pension fund anal
detormine whether or not it was a problem. But the ,;uestion that's If,
front of you rigl;t now is whether or net you're going to put the City
of Miami in a defonsable positign in the future. And really that':. thv.
only question,.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grassie, what's n)t addressed in this is what also
scares me. What happens to those other parties who are paying into this
pension fund, and for two years, the C,)unty hasn't paid a dime. And that's
like four hundred thousand dollars that this fund haL not received nor
has their been any diligent effort made to collect. ;does that five percent
apply to that? Does the five percent apply to Water and Sewer? Does
it apply to the Off -Street Parking Authority? These are questions that
are not resolved in this thing as I see it. Now if...
Mr. Grassie: This does not attempt to resolve (very problem. This is
.simply a posturing of the City in such a way that you will not be
subject to another series of law suits. Now there is no representation,
that this will sole` every one of your problems. But what it does do
is it keeps you from creating some additional problems. Now that's the
effort in the short run. The question that you're t_e.lking :iboat now, for
example, a collection from Dade County ic. re -ally a question of the
administration of the fund. And you know, whether or not some follow up
took place a year ago, two years ago, or last week but that really has
nothinc to do with the Friend report that's in front of you and the
legal position of the City.
Mr. Sundak: Cc xinissioner i'tummer, if I may. Last year the Commission
voted, and I understand it ,; :nanimous, to adopt a policy with regard
to the amount o�- the contri. ' -)n `or the fiscal ;year 1979-1980. And
the question is going to come bef,:,-- he Commission very shortly as to
the amount to be contributed for tt,, i.scal year 1980 to 81. And in
making the determination as to the proper amotu,t to be contributed, the
Commission is charged with the duty or, the law of d.:termining the basis
on which to make that calculation. And tnat basis is arrived .at from
actuarial assumptions. That's what the pension ordinance say_;, :1 that
would be the law in any event because it's the City Commission which
makes the determination of how to spend the money raised by taxes.
Mr. Plummer: Counsellor, the only thing that you and I have agreed on,
ara it's rather obvious, that we're not actuaries. Now, for example,
can you tell me, and you should know in representing the City, as to what
the mortality rate is in the system side?
Mr. Sundak: I know that there are two different assumptions on mortality,
one on the system side and one on the plan side.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. Let me tell you that on the system side, it is about
four and one half years off. And the reason that it has not been brought
into reality is simply because the City can't afford it. We are right
now I think at fifty-four and one half. Three and a half ;cars off, I'm
sorry. And when reality tells us that in police and fire the -Ire actually
bringing in at fifty-one. But for us to take and to fund and bring it
into reality for the unfunded liability which affects the assumption
rate, it would cost us almost six hundred thousand a year, per year that
you drop. That in itself is a two million dollar error but we can't do
anything about it because we don't have the money. Are these tak.:. into
consideration? Did Friend take that into consideration or did he ever, know
about it? It's not addressed in this report.
Mr. Carollo: If I may...
Chief Jaremko: Mr. Plummer,,may I address the board, please? My name
is Ed Jaremko. I'm the Vice -Chairman of she System Board and I've been
asked by the members of my board to relay our position and put it on the
record. We have passed it out. It's in the form of a resolution. I'd
like to read the main part of it. It states; "By majority vote of board
members present, it was cCnrluded that the recommendations contained
within the report if implemented, would interfer with the performance
of our fudiciary responsibilities and do in fact, appear to be contrary
to STate law an.i City ordinance. We are to pursue this matter with
counsel and with our own actuarial firm. And do strongly recommend
that no action be taken until such time as the board can publish its
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Chief Jaremko (continued): position on this item. I'd like to state,
for the record, that this is the third set of assumptions from Mr. Friend
for this fiscal year. And each time it's been reduced. The City
Oridnance states that the actuary recommends and the board certifies. This
board did not even ... our board did not even hire Friend. Our actuary
is Alexander and Alexander. So I think it is contrary to City Ordinance,
and also, it's supposed to be approved by the State and I don't think
this has occurred. Mr. Gary stated that because of an increase in
assumption, earnings assumptions, that we're able to cut down our contribution.
I'd like to ask you what the City's position would be if the market took a
nose dive and we lost money. Would the City then come up with additional
monies? These assumptions there is a series of assumptions which are
.mathematical projections and at the end of the yt.-ar you can level them
out. Some are over, some are under but you can't arbitrarily dig in when
you have a good year and just cut down on your expenses. This is based
on a thirty-two year amortization. And State law says it has to be
amoritized over that period of time. Now how can you underfund this by
more than five m.illion to begin with, and still comply with the State
law. And then as a matter of such importance, that you don't ever, have
a representative from E. H. Friend to back this up. We don't even know
that he would certify that he said this.
mayor Ferre: Do you want to answer that counsellor?
Mr. Sunda%: There are certain statements of law that have been made
about .Mate law and the City's pension ordinance which are incorrect.
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Which are what":
Mr. Silver: Which are incorrect. The State law the employee... the Florida
Protection of Public Employees Retirement Benefits Act allows the amortization
of unfunded liabilities over a period forty years.
Mr. Jaremko: That's not true, sir. That is for if you do not have an
amortization schedule and you begin one, but if you have one you are not
allowed to go any further than you are actuarily going for right now.
Mr. Silver: It's Section 12.64 , Subsection 2.
Mr. Jaremko: You read the whole paragraph.
Mr. Silver: Now, in addition the requirement of the City to report to the
State is one that's under that sane law mandated every three years starting
in October, 1978 and so the City would still have another year and a half
before that three year period of time has expired. The City is not out of
compliance with the State law. The City is in full compliance with State
law.
Mr. Jaremko: Any time new ber..- ;:re projected you have to file.
Mr. Silver: We just have a fundamet,tLl disagreement in the law as I read.
Mr. Jaremko: Ok, I will read the portion that applies to the amortization.
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, you know, we are in a floor debate and w, haven't
even had a chance to make a statement. I think really that this si.,-)uld be
addressed to the Chair rather than, you know, back and forth.
Mayor Ferre: Well, alright, I will permit Mr. Grassie in the interest of
erting everybody make their statements. I think we all know what's happening
here. The fact is that the... both of these, the Flan and the System are
suing the City of Miami and the main basic question before us is whether or
not this Commission has... is able to abrogate its responsibility by
abdicating. Now, I think what we have is a statement made by the attorney
who represents the City of Miami in a lawsuit to defend us against the Plan
and the System and as far as I'm concerned I'm going to protect the citizens
of the City of Miami and the City of Miami. I am elected by the people
of Miami and not by the employees and I'm going to do my job and I have got
no problems. I know where I'm going and I know which way I'm going to vote
and I know what we are doing here is getting all this ready for these lawsuits.
And that's fine. They are entitled to do that. They are entitled to sue us.
They have got all the lawyers here and Mr. Gong is not here today, but his
representative is here and that's fine. They are getting ready for their
further lawsuits and appeals. Let them put it into the record. Go ahead.
Mr Jaremko: Ok, just as a point of clarification. The counselor r.....ioned
the fact that you can amortize over forty years and I have the statement here
that would disprove that. It says "Nothing contained in the Subsection shall
permit any Retirement System or Plan to amortize its unfunded liabilities or
3 period longer than that which remains under its current amortization schedule".
Now, that's pretty clear and if the counsel doesn't know that, then he should.
I would like to make just one clarific..'.-n here from the position of the Board.
We are not asking for any benefits. What we are asking for is the money to
deliver the benefits that you all have granted. You are the captain of the ship
and we are the crew. All we would like is some provisions to carry out what they
bargained for and we are not trying to ruin the City. Quite the contrary. We
want to keep it from being ruined.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Grassie, now you wanted to say something.
Mr. Grassie: No, I just wanted the counsel to have a chance to speak without
interruption, that's all.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, counsel, the Chair recognizes you without interruption now.
Mr. Silver: Thank you. The only other point I would want to make just has
to do with the fact that currently the City is being sued by both the Plan and
the System Boards. 'I}ie suit challenges the right of the City Commission to
make these kinds of determinations and to make the determination as how to
spend the money raised by taxation. It's the positron of the City and it's
the analysis of your special counsel that, that is a City Commission function
which should not and cannot be delegated to a body other than that elected
by the City. And what's being asked of the City here with regard to the
Friend Report and to the actuarial assumptions is one of the functions
that the City Commission in determining how to spend the money raised by
taxation is authorized and is proper to do.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Carollo?
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You know, people in government talk about
wanting to be with th,� people, but before you can really bt, with t'.,, people
you have to find out where the people are at. And I find it very, very hard
to digest that ill one hand we are talking about protecting the people of Miami.
We are calking about protecting the existence of the City of Miami and in the
other hand when you have examples that are really hurting the City of Miami,
that are really destroying the City of Miami, we stand by and say nothing
and let it go by. Now, let me give the specifics. Tony back here he is the
President of the Retirees of Miami, worked for the City of Miami thirty-five
years. Do you know what his pension is per month? Around five hundred fifty
dollars at most. The other hand, we have people that have worked for the.
City only three and a half years and they are planning on retiring getting
close to five hundred dollars a month. That my friends is what is destroying
the ;Aty of Miami. Not the people that have worked their buts off for years
after years giving everything they had to this City. The little guy out there
hen he retires with something he can barely live on. Then you got a guy
eltat came in because of friendship with the people that hired him. His
qualification are none. he even .lied, one example that we have already
in his application with the City of Miami. It's been proven beyond a shadow
of a doubt. That's what you call a fact. k'hen something is proven beyond
a shadow of a doubt. And this Man is going to retire with close to five hundred
dollars. And we have other cases like that of people who only wurke.' a few
years and they are milking and rubbing out the taxpayers, you out there, for
this kind of money. People that could care less for your city. Dent even
live in your city, that just come here and get their pay check and have fun
then they go to their little mansion or nice plush condominiums to forget
about us peons in the City of Miami. That is destroying the City of Miami.
We could go on with examples. Another example, when you have people flying
around Latin America, eatidg in the best restuarants, first class, taking
their wives along, the City taking the bill. That is destroying the City of
Miami. That's ripping out the taxpayers. I too, would like to fly around
all over the world, eat in the hest restaurant, stay in the best hotel , but
1...
Mayor Ferre: Would you give us some examples of who's taking their wives on
City...
Mr. Carollo: Well, Mr. Mayor, I have been asking and I will go into specific
to you more. I have been asking you sir, since I have got in here to get a
complete breakdown, the complete breakdown from our City Manager as to all
the trips that lie has taken. All the expenses that he has inquired of the
City and after this date I have never received that. It was first refused,
refused that I was only given a partial list of reimbursements. Now, the
Information that I have been given that has been alledged to me state the
facts sir, that Mr. t _a>,sic ha ' taken quite a fete trips and taken his wife
on trips and the City has ty ply the bill. Now, I have tried to clarify this
and to this date, to this date I have not been given the answer.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, I understand. I was just trying to get it on the record.
The accusation is that Mr. Grassie has been flying all over Latin America
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taking his wife at City expense. I just want to get... make sure I understood
what you were saying.
Mr. Carollo: Now, I will be trying to get this verified Mr. Mayor and he
hasn't verified it to me. And furthermore I have pictures sir, that I can
present anytime you like. Yes, sir. Mr. Grassie, Latin America or what is
stated to me was paid by the City and I'm going on what other City officials
stated to me, that is was paid by the City. Is says Mr. Grassie along with
Mr. Gunderson have refused so far to give this information, sir. Then I
could only go on what has been told to me by other members of the City.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Carollo: If I may, now, that Mr. Mayor, frankly is helping destroy the
City little by little. I understand and I'm sure you do more than anybody
here that if you are going to pay thirty million dollars to Joe, my God, that
you know I don't see how the City could survive either. I will be honest with
ybu and I will be the first one to admit that. But Mr. Mayor, we got to stop
somewhere along the line and come to reality as you stated.
Mayor Ferre: Right.
Mr. Carollo: All of them, not only one example. We have to get all examples
and come to reality on both sides of the fence. Not only one side.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further statements? Mr. Silver, go ahead.
Mr. Silver: Mr. Mayor and tnemb•rs of the Commission, I number one, would like
to address my remarks to the M. or specifically. I don't nnL.-/ in his opening
remarks that you gave whether yu. , c referring to me specifically and collectively
or in what manner. But I can tell :oa ti?s that I have worked closely with
you for, I guess the last eight year6. ; have always had a great deal of
respect for you and your ability. I think you are an excellent Mayor and I
continue to do that. But I got to tell you that I recent little bit if you
were referring to me the fact that you think that I am bringing or have
recommended a lawsuit be brought for any other reason and to protect the members
of the people that I represent and that happens to be the Buard of Trustees
who comprise both management members and employee representatives. And I can
tell you and assure you again, that I have no interest in seeing the City of
Miami. go down the drain. Quite to the contrary, I would like to see it
preserved because I think it serves a very basic and excellent function. In
addition to that I can assure you me appearance here today is not for the
purposes of the lawsuit. Again, my sole purpose here and I would derelict
and I would be subject to a malpractive action if I did not do it, is to represent
the clients that I have. And that is my sole reason here, I'm not here to
comment on the Mayor's statementb.
Mayor Ferre: Ron let the record reflect that I accepted you representing your
clients and you do it well. I have no problems with that. Plummer used today
as saying that he has on his wall which goes something like this "I judge things
by their result". Isn't that what it says?
Mr. Plummer: The results are the only way to test the ability.
Mayor Ferre: Well, the results and the success of your lawsuit in proper
representing your clients in my opinion is the demise of the City of M'smi.
That's my opinion.
Mr. Silver: Well, I can assure you that's not you know, my basis as a legs:
opinion and Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission iiI you w ld rieejM 4tefs
th.b
.t have been filed in tnis case, I can esure you tt.e qucs� on s
a black and white question. It is a question that is deservingly so of the court
decision process and we will all be very :.,i;fied. I have no pride in this
matter. If the court tells me I'm wrong, then _i'm wrong. I would hope that
I am right and that I am wrong and the court will make that determination.
Mayor Ferre: Ron, one of your associations... There are three law firms involved
in this. You are one lawyer, Eddie Gong is another and Parker Thompson and
Dan Paul are a third lawyer. Dan Paul has on numerous occasions told me with
a erear deal of glee that he finally is going to get his way of destroying the
City of Miami. That he is gotdg to eliminate the City of Miami. He has finally
found a way to eliminate the City of Miami trrough these series of lawsuits.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, who was that?
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Mayor Ferre: Dan Paui. yes, who represents these groups.
Mr. Carollo: Surprised to hear that because it seems to me that everytime
Dan Paul comes here he always get what he wants out of the City.
Mayor Ferre: Well, he may get it again this time since he represents the unions
and the Pension Plan and System in this attack against the City of Miami.
Mr. Jaremko: Alright, Mr. Mayor, thank you. I just want as far as the content
of this is concerned I am not aware of the necessity at this particular moment
and the need to have this item decided at this particular meeting. The
question was asked of counsel and 1... I'm sorry and may be I'm... may be two
years in the legislature has done this to me that may be I'm not understanding
people so well, but I do not understand what the emergency was in this particular
circumstance. I remember last year when we did not discuss the budgetary
process on the pension until after the regular buds,et was adopted. That was
a month after the regular budget was adopted if I recall correctly. I do not
understand why two more weeks would be disadvantageous in order for us to
you know go forward and examine the report. I just draw your attention....
Mayor Ferre: Come on Ron, because of the lawsuits. You know exactly what this
is all about.
Mr. Jaremko: No, I don't. I do not know. I don't understand how that. 1
do not know how that affects the lawsuits.
Mavor Ferre: I have bcon told and I think it's been said on the record here
that this is gerx, .L- and important to the defense of the City in these lawsuits.
You want to say that again one more time into the record?
N'r. Jaremko: Yes, Mr. Mayor, that's exactly right. The challenge in the lawsuit
brought by Mr. Silver and the other lawsuit by Gong cha.lenges the right of the
City to make the determination as to the amount of the money appropriated in
the pension plans and also challenges the amount that the City determine to
appropriate last fall and the adoption of the Friend Report and the assumption...
the actuarial assumptions that are involved here which would assist the City
in defending itself and the actions of the City Commission with regard to
the 1979 to 19780 appropriation and contribution to the pension plans. Moreover,
come September we are going to have the same problem all over again and I
assume that Mr. Silver will representing his clients as he should would feel
zp,-ropriate to file another lawsuit.
Mr. Silver: Mr. Mayor, all I'm saying is I don't disagree with the affect of
adopting this report. I just don't understand why the emergency today rather
than two weeks from today. That's what I don't understand, because we are not
going to be in any different position. You are not adopting your budget until
October 1 of that time.
Mayor Ferre: But Ron, the reason is that traditionally around here one of the
ways we always get beat is we always delay, you know, well, we feel sorry and
we are concerned and the fellows come up and you know, the different groups
and the different... the Police union comes up and the Fire Union comes up
and the other groups come up'and they ask for delay. You see, there they are
now. They are going to ask us for a delay and they are going to ask us not
to do this now and that we ought to delay two more weeks. I learned my lesson.
I don't listen to it anymore.
Mr. Plummer: You know, Mr. Mayor, in all fairness the Administrator, has
delayed six months in furnishing this report to the Commission.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I guess they must have learned Mr. Mayor from hanging
around City Nall here.
Mr. Grassie: Commissioner Plummer, that is factually incorrect. The date
of the report is the one that's on the cover of the report, that is not the
date when we received the reporp.
Hr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Grassie, I read not only on the cover, but on the
first page of the report, January 18, 1980 , Washington D.C. Now, I realize
the mails are slow, but I question how slow.
Mr. Grassie: I can tell that you received it not more than ten days after
I received it.
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Mr. Silver: For the record Mr. Maher, on behalf of the Trusteei of the
General Employees Retirement Plan I would object to the adoption of this
report at this time and would ask for the matter to be deferred to two weeks.
You know, it's interesting also to point out and 1 think it should be noted
for the record that E. H. Friend and Company is also the a:.tuary hired by the
Trustee and the Plan that they gave us one figure when they... and actually
and they still are being paid by us and then whvn the City hired them they gave
another figure last year and now they h::ve a third figure which they have
brought to the attention. Now, I don't know which figure, you know, may be
they are all right and may he they are all wrong, but i just think that in
a matter of this great concern when we got retirees involved in this particular
situation that we should exercise the upmost caution and if there is no great
dire need for an emergency at tnis particular time that w? go forward. I would
refer to the memorandum by Mr. Gary to Ms. Rodriguez which is dated June 27,
1980, which is a Friday I believe and requested that the Boards are informed of
this matter. The next week is July 4th, there was no opportunity actually
to get everybody together and we have our pension board meeting next and I can
guarantee you we would take it up at that time, but so be it. That's for
the record. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Don Teems: Mr. Mayor, Don Teems, President of the Miami Association of
Fire Fighters. I would like to make a coT=ent on that report, but first I
would like to ask the attorney a question. Have you looked at the report as
it relates tc, collective bargaining agreements that are negotiated by the
employees of the City?
21r. Sundaic : I bey your pardot- . I can't hear you.
Mr. Teems: Have you looker; i.t }.art as it relates to the collective
bargaining agreements that i< ncg;,,:i>.cd by the City employees with the City
Commission agreed upon by 1.otth?
Mr. Sundak: Two things, first my firm is not the counsel to the City on
labor matters. And second as a result we ''haven't been asked ant' .,e didn't
feel it appropriate to detail into the collective bargaining aspect ,f this.
Mr. Teems: That's my point. Let me give you a little history, ok. In 1974
the employee groups negotiated a change in the structure in the pension and
the Board of Trustees with the City of Miami agreed upon by the Commission at
tint time. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. To change...
the ordinance that came out of that, ok, that sett, up the trust. T_� change
that in my opinion and our legal... and it's not Dan Paul by the way. The
City of Miami Fire Fighters have never retained Dan Paul for anything and I
don't kT,ow where that came from, but our attorney say that it is a violation
of that collective bargaining; agreement and that this gets rig'.t to the soul
of what the problems with, with the City employees of the City of Miami are
with the Administration. The soul of it is, is that you sit dow" and you talk
and you supposedly agree collectively. You take that agreement back to your
employee groups and they ratify understanding it. The Administration brings
it before this Commission and explains it and then after the fact this contract
is signed by both parties and after the fact we start trying to change the
rules and change the collective bargaining agreement. It's been done on
a numbEr of occasions. I will give an example of many. When we reduce from
fifty-six to fifty-four to fifty-two to fifty hours of work a week for fire
fighters the argument from the City and rightfully so, was that it waq Going
to cost them the amount of money to hire twenty-three more people foi .!ery
two hours that we reduce in our hours work they were going to have to hire.
They never did. Now, they argued at the table cost wise. They never did.
That's one of the reasons we are short in Police and one of the reasons we are
short in Fire. With the pension we agreed. We sat down at the table and
negotiated and agreed to come up with this structure. The Commission ratified
it. Now, the Commission or the Admin1st:.," on wants the Commission to turn
around and change that agreement they_ made. New, the way to do that is to go
to the table with it. Now, the last two times we have been to the table the
City Administration has refused to talk about pension which is there right.
Th- State Law says you can or can't. Either party can agree. They don't
want to talk about it at the table, but then they want to bring it back to the
Commissiun and let you do it unilaterally and that's a violation of our agreement.
And that's the soul of everything that this Administration has been doing to
the City of Miami and it's not just pension. It's all the way down the line.
And Mr. Mayor, Fire Fighters are not i_oiv�,d in that suit. We are not. We
have never paid Dan Paul a dime. Don't ever intend to. The Police that I
know of are not either. Now, we might be because my understanding is that they
are talking about trying to negotiate a settlement in lieu of money ana^^^
we believe that as a bargaining agent that we are going to have to be involved
in any kind of negotiation.
Mayor Ferre: Don, I got no problems. You represent your constituency. You
represent the union. Now, I...
Mr. Teems: No, I represent fire fighters, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I understand and I represent the people who elected me,
which are the people of Miami and that's fine. You represent your constituency.
I represent my constituency. That's fine. I understand.
Mr. Teems: Mr. Mayor, how do you take and employ the City of Miami and agree
to do something with him and then turn around two years later and say no, I
ain't going to do that no more. How do you do that?
Mayor Ferre: We don't... at least I don't look at it that way.
Mr. Teems: No, I know. I realize that, because a contract is a contract
unless it's with an employee group and then it not really a contract.
Mayor Ferre: That's not so. It has certainly not been... I have been serving
this city now for well over ten years and you can't name me one occasion when
I voted in that way. Not one.
Mr. Teems: I'm namin-, you one right now that you just said yvu were
to vote that way.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I tell you I don't agree with that position that you are
expressing here...
Mr. Teems: Did we not negotiate that structure? Did we not set up that ordinance
through negotiations? And did you not ratify that agreement?
Mayor Ferre: The State Law is very clear on this. The City of Miami Commission
cannot abrogate and not abdicate its position. If you want a legal statement
ask the lawyer again. State it in the record.
Mr. Sun(lak: It goes back to what I was saying before that the City Cominission
ic, Elected and among other of its duties is the duty to determine the
appropriation of funds. And the City Commission cannot legally delegate that
right away to anybody. And so not withstanding recommendations from various
sources the City Commission is the ultimate body that makes the determination
as to how funds are appropriated. For the past three hours at this very meeting
that's exactly what the City Commission has been doing.
Mr. Teems: Absolutely and the City has the right and the City Comr.i.ssion has
the right and the obligation to agree on a collective bargaining agreement
with employees and they did. They have already done that. And now the only
way that I know to change it legally is to go back to the table and change it.
You can't unilaterally change it anymore than we can. Well, you know we agreed
not to strike. Does that mean that we can unilaterally do that now and it's
ok?
Mr. Sundak: There is nothing in the City pension ordinance and there is nothing
in any other law that I'm familiar with that would abdicate the City r,)mmission's
duty, a duty that as I understand it is acknowledged by everyone here to make
the determination for all of the various resources and all of the various
needs that come before the City Commission as to how the money that's raised
by taxation is to be spent.
Mayor Ferre: WE11, obviously we are going to end up defending this in court
so I will ask the City Attorney. Are we in anyway in your opinion violating
any legal agreement?
Mr. Knox: No, sir, -t's the opinion of the City Attorney that you are acting
consistent with sound actuarial principles consistent with the State Law
and consistent with determinations that you have previously made.
Mr. Teems: Could I ask him a question? Consistent with the labor agreements
that the City has signed with it? You didn't mention that sir.
Mr. Knox: And consistent with the labor agreements that the City of Miami
has entered into to the extent that the City of Miami has the power to
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make those agreements and enforce them.
Mayor Ferre: Anything else?
Mr. Don March: Good nfternoon, my name is Don March and I'm elected Trustee
of Miami City Employees Retirement System Board. Mr. Mayor, in the resolution
that we passed today in a discussion preceding it we raised questions on a
very sophisticated and comprehensive and complete and difficult to read report
that has only been recently furnished to us, but I have been up all night
reading it. There are sufficient questions raised from my limited experience
that give me concern for the funding ratifications and when we speak of
representing the citizens of the City of Miami we have to talk about the
consequences of delaying obligations to a time in the future. This report
only projects a cash flow allocation through an eleven year period and we are
talking about a thirty-five or a forty year funding cycle. My question is
what is the... what are the funding requirements and consequences of any of
the four or five recommended alternatives in this plan in the year 1995
2004 when I hope very strongly that we still do have a very strong
City government. They are not in here. This is something you have to take
into consideration and we feel we do in the Retirement System Board take this
kin of obligation to future employees, future citizens, future leadership in
the City of Miami with regards to the consequences of any funding requirements
in any form of State Law. I'm not any attorney and I'm not an actuary. I
think this report needs to be gone over very carefully by an attorney. Our
actuary... I would like to give our actuary the opportunity to assess whether
or not the impact of this does in fact impinge upon my obligation as a
fiduciary, my obligation as a representative of citizens and employees and
the leadership here. I do the best I can to conform Lo State Law and I have
concerns as to whether adoption -f this will in fact do that and what we
are asking by our resolution a:. %,liar we are suggesting very strongly that
you defer this until such time bia w can publish our legal and actuarial
observations on this particular action ht.e. I will quote from page six of
this report second paragaph. "Those full actuarial funding levels which are
lower in the early years of a retirement program's existence will be higher
in the later years". "Will be higher" and that's right here in the report,
but yet we don't see the pages how high it's going to be.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further statements? Alright?
Mr. Carollo: I would like to make one if I can Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Huh?
Mr. Carollo: I would like to make one if no one else here is going to speak.
Mayor Ferre: Of course.
Mr. Carollo: I would just like to point one small example of what I think
has been happening here. It's a small example of six hundred thousand
dollars worth. One of the statements that Mr. Gunderson and this is why we
wanted him here. There is quite a few statements like this here that he
presented to the board was that he expected the revenues for the 1979 year
to be at nine hundred sixty-one thousand one hundred seventy dollars. Well,
a lot was based on that actuality. What we got was three hundred seventy
thousand dollars approximately. Almost a six hundred thousand dollar mistake.
If I could call Elena Rodriguez up here again.
Mayor Ferre: Who?
Mr. Carollo: Elena Rodriguez. I think she could go even a little deeper
into this area that I'm talking about here so that the Commission could
hupefully understand it a little Metter.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead Ms. Rodriguez.
Ms. Elena Rodriguez: I have been having a little problem with the fund
balance. One minute we had two hundred thousand dollars in the fund balance
and the next minute we have a credit balance of three hundred twenty-five
thousand dollars. I tried to get information and I had quite a problem
getting information. Finally the annual report of the City of Miami was
issued and I got a copy of it last week. I consulted with both my attorneys
and at their recommendation I asked for a clarification of the figures. I
got it last night. I was comparing it agaiiist a copy of the budget document
that was issued for the year before 1978-79 and I have some very serious
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questions. I made you all a copy. Per Mr. G%;nderson's figures which he
had in the budget document, we should have revenues from the City in excess
of fifteen million dollars. Other revenues from other sources and this includes
Metropolitan Dade County, State of Florida, Water and Sewers, etc., should
amount to nine hundred sixty-one thousand dollars plus. However, in this
breakdown that they prepared they have a charge off of three hundred seven
thousand dollars for uncollectable taxes. We are being charged your property
taxes. They are being charged to our fund balance. Also they claim that
instead of collecting nine hundred sixty-one thousand dollars they have only
been able to collect three hundred seventy thousand dollars from other
miscellaneous employers. Now, what they are trying to tell is they did not
collect half a million dollars from Dade County for the last couple of years.
I have been around and around with this with Mr. Gunderson for the last six
or seven month and I have talked to Howard Gary about it a couple of times.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, thank you, very much. Alright, any further statements at
this time? If not, is there a motion?
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, I move that the Edward H. Friend and Company study
funding alternatives dated January 18, 1980 concerning the City's Pension
Program be accepted and that the recommendation therein included to increase
the amortization payment of the unfunded past service liability by five percent
each year from October 1, 1976 be approved.
Rev. Gibson: 1 second it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion and a second, is there further discussion
on Item 15, call the roll.
ON ROLL. CALL:
Mr. Plummer: Very short the answer definitely is negative. I vote "no". I
don't feel all the information has been furnished to the Commission. I think
a lot of questions are going unanswered. It is once again we are being forced
by government by crisis to try and make a decision today that it can't be
put off. I vote "no".
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-520
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE EDWARD H. FRIEND
AND COMPANY STUDY ON FUNDING ALTERNATIVES
DATED JANUARY 18, 1980 CONCERNING THE CITY'S
PENSION PROGRAMS; FURTHER ADOPTING THE
RECOMMENDATION CONTAINED IN SAID STUDY TO
INCREASE THE AMORTIZATION PAYMENT OF THE
UNFUNDED PAST SERVICE LIABILITY BY 5% EACH
YEAR FROM OCTOBER 1, 1976.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Rev. Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mr. Plummer and Mr. Carollo.
ABSENT: None.
17. GRANT REQUEST OF LATIN AlfERICAN BASEBALL ACADEMY FOR USE OF
BASEBALL STADIUM SUBJECT TO'CONDITIONS.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Alfonso Rodriguez? Item 5. Senor Rodriguez?
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
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Mayor Ferre: (SPEM'S IN SPAN1SH).
Grassie, we need a translater.
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
We need a translates .`It. Manager. Mr.
Mayor Ferre: (TRANSLATES FOR SPEAKER). I'm the Director of the Latin American
Baseball Academy a non-profit organization founded in 1974. Will you get
somebody to do this please? For children from six to sixteen. During the last
eight years...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (TAKES OVER AS "RANSLATER). We have had competition
at the stadium for the Orioles where we take children three days during the year.
It is assisted only by the fathers and the donation s received is not sufficient
to cover the cost. During the last seven years they Commissioners have always
donated the Stadium free. By the use of the stadium for free he is just
referring as to the rent, nut he does pay for the electricity, the umpires,
trash collection and so forth. Last year they collected half the amount for
the stadium. Commissioner Lacasa was there last year and he was able to observe
that really no public goes there, it's just the parents of the kids. For those
reasons he would like...
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Commissioner Lacasa.
Mr. Lacasa: I have a couple of questions before we vote on this. One, do you
charge for admission? You know he have to translate because this goes on the
record and the other Commissioners...
LNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANI._H).
',.NIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: They receive ., dol"�ar donation per person to cover th.•
cost of lights and so forth. They pay fi`ty dollars an hour just for lighting;
in the stadium.
Mr. Iacasa: But if we waive the fee... if we were to waive: the fee would you
still charge for admission?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: If the City would waive their fee they would still have
to charge admission because they have other expenses such as lighting, paying
for umpires, insurance and so forth.
Mr. Lacasa: Ok, so based on the fact that they are going to use that & narior
to pay for the electricity that actually is the electricity of the field and
that the City won't be charged for that as well for the umpires I move that
the fee be waived.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion on the floor, is there a second?
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
,..ayor Ferre: There is a motion on the floor, is there a second to the motion,
which is Lacasa's motion?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo seconds.
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion.
Mayor Ferre: Under discussion.
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion then it's my understanding all of the proceeds
taken at the gate will be turned over'to the City.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: The income will be to cover the expenses not necessarily
to go back to the City.
Mayor Fetie: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
Mr. Rodriguez: (SPEAKS IN SPANISH).
Mayor Ferre: There is n motion on the floor and a second with Plummer's stipulation.
Plummer with your stipulation that the money flow through the City of Miami
for the payment of the lights and the clean up and the Police and all that kind
of stuff.
Mr. Plummer: The admission proceeds will come to the City.
Mayor Ferre: And along with him so that he will know that we are not spending
the money wrong, ok. Ok, is that acceptable to everybody? Further discussion,
call the roll.
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Mr. Carollo: Before I vote on this I would just like to say that I think these
are some of the projects that the City snould try to do its nest to help and
that we spend our money in some many ways that really do a minimum of good,
but when you are talking about our youth that's where we really have to put
our money. Make sure that our young ptcople are going to grow up the right
wa} and nut be involved in stealing on the corner or all kinds of drugs that
we have in our city, but to grow u-p in a way that c would all he proud of
our city. So they can make good and outstanding citizens for Miami and this
is why I vote "yes".
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 80-521
A MOTION TO APPROVE A REQUEST MADE BY THE LATIN A*MRICAN
BASEBALL ACADEMY FOR FREE USE OF THE MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM
WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ALL PROCEEDS FROM GATE ADMISSIONS
BE TI"RNED 0VL'R TO THE CITY TO DEFRAY COSTS OF ELECTRICITY,
PERSONNEL AND OTHER RELATED EXPENSES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed
and adopted by the fallowing vote:
AYES: Commissioner Jive Carollo
Commissioner .1. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
18. MOTION OF INTENT TO WAIVE. FEES INCURRED BY MIDONG PRIMARY S:'..,OL
EXHIBITION TEAM OF KOREA
COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER AUGUST 3, 1980.
Mayer Ferre: Now, them ii. a similar item before us. It's a resolution
completely waiving the fees incurred by the Midong Primary School Exhibition
Team of Korea in connection with.the use of Coconut Grove Exhibition Center
on August 3, 1980 for the purpose of exhibiting their cultural talents in the
art of Tae-Kwon-Doc, _ which I think is Karate. It is another word for Karate isn't it? Ok, Plummer moves.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Lacasa seconds, further discussion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 80-522
A MOTION OF INTENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO WAIVE THE
FEES INCURRED BY THE MIDONG PRIMARY SCHOOL EXHIBITION
TEAM OF KOREA IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF THE COCONUT
GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER ON AUGUST 3, 1980 FOR THE
PURPOSE OF EXHIBITING THEIR CULTURAL TALENTS IN THE ARE
OF TAE-KWON-DOE, PROVIDED THEY AGREE TO PAY ATTENDANT
EXPENSES SUCH AS ELECTRICITY, INSURANCE, SECURITY, CLEAN
UP OF THE PLACE ON COMPLETION, ETC.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
19. MOTION REFERRING REQUEST TO SELL COOKIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA
TO APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS FOR CONSIDERATION
Mayor Ferre: Ok, we are now on Item 6, Eric Connelly. Mr. Connelly?
Mr. Eric Connelly: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, my name is
Eric Connelly, 488 Northwest 165th Street, North Miami. I'm Chairman of
Cookie Coach Company of Florida and the purpose of my appearance here is to
make an application to sell cookies to the public on the streets of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Who is against cookies?
Mr. Connelly: Cookie Coach of Florida is a new company being the off -shoot
of a large New York operation and consists of an antique vehicle. A 19ui
bakery van costing twenty thousand dollars. This vehicle has appeared on
the Phil Donahue Show, Mery Griffin and in the movie Kramer and Kramer,
also the front cover of the Time Magazine. The vehicle is aesthetically
appealing and will lend added charm and color to Miami besides adding to
the good image of the City particularly for the tourist. And the vehicle
could also be made available for promotional ventures for the City of :._imi.
The cookie coach with permission of the Police is parked immediately outside
these chambers and the Commissioners are invited to view it now if necessary.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager as I remember in reading this item... this is
Item 6 and as I remember you.%. We need t:--'ve a peddler's license, is that
what we need do?
Mr. Grassie: Mr. Mayor, since this was originally put on the City Commission's
agenda we have a memorandum from the City Attorney which indicates that there
may be a legal problem with this question and I think that we need a report
from the City Attorney.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Knox?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor I would like to refer the Commission to Section
40-4 of the Code of the City of Miami and this provision indicates that no
peddlers shall be permitted to solicit business upon the public streets of
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the City of Miami WiLlil. ' Mv - : Lct Of aTi (,F,tah� "S
handling Lhc cla&v of g"ndv inthuriz,q. lobw sold or hn-,1dI(J t,njor
license; nor LO loCat, in IN -k - i ;w53 ;c hi)!hwi,i'q ( -- OtIt. - vubli ;, prop( rty
with the City Or i�c pur"t"o of trai . . rwp bininess.
Mayor Ferre: —3 i , d0l-4 1AQuO .'Ise sioll cookiel- ;ijal: you kr,ow of around
there?
Mr. Knox: V 11, we have copsibantly LivrilirvLed tli--)t pravlsiln as to
pichlbIt peAdl ;nv of an! kinj 0:1 Lho streetg an,1 ways either frot- a vohichle
of push earl 0- 0-11 stints. 'W, it may be that the City COTI"Pission may
wish to revit-,it -il"L At I SLll Sequcilt MuLin; ad0j)L an OrdillanCO
whicii will it, it wc :,L11 11,,V'.' P'lly proviqions for the i�.,--iance of
special licenses or perirft�.
Mayor Ferre: 1A&F ,ot a senov from the Commission here and vivo -itwt they
V,41't to d,.. I - - - ,i !d ,111 - ( -me! h you wi) 1 have P) can., back tome other
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, we will gee you again in the future. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 80-523
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RESEARCH A REQUEST
MADE BY MR. ERIC CONNELLY, COOKIE COACH CO. CF FLORIDA, INC.,
IN CONNECTION WITH PROPOSED USE OF COACHES IN THE DOWNTOWN
AREA TO VEND COOKIES, REQUESTING OF THE. ADMINISTRATION TO
CONSULT WITH THE MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC DIVISION,
THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS"
ASSOCIATION TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR OPINION IS AS TO POTENTIAL
PROBLEMS IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRAFFIC SITUATION WHICH COULD
BE CREATED BY THIS REQUEST.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner J. L. P1u -.eL, Jr.
20. PERSONAL APPEARANCE- MEMBERS OF MIAMi DESIGN PLAZA AND
MEMBERS OF MIAMI FASHION DISTRICT ASSN.
CRIME/PARKING AND OTHER PROBLEMS IN THESE AREAS
Mayor Ferre: Take up Item 33. Go ahead. Ms. Goff you are recognized.
Mr. Bernard E. Sullivan: Mr. Mayor and fellow Commissioners, I'm a
Commissioner too. I represent the fashion industry and all of these people-
here...
Mr. Ongie: Your name please.
Mr. Sullivan: I'm sorry. My name is Bernard E. Sullivan. I'm a manufacturer
employing two hundred people in the Miami Fashion District in addition to
which I operate a retail store that sell directly to the public and you may
have seen some extensive advertising promoting the Fashion District, but the
thing that I would...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. Mr. Mayor, this is under a personal appepr_ace and
for keeping things in order, who is Shirley Goff?
Ms. Shirley Goff: I'm Shirley Goff.
Mr. Plummer: Are you relinquishing to this gentleman?
Ms. Goff: No, I believe we are ion,unctive. If he would like to speak
first, that's fine with me.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I would appreciate the agenda being adhered to and this
was a request of hers and then -if he wishes to add afterwards I think it
would be appropriate.
Mayor Ferre: I assumed that you are'both here together on the same thing
and for the same thing.
Ms. Goff: Yes, we are, but we are representing two different organizations
in a similar neighborhood. 7Q JUL 10 1980
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Mayor Ferre: I see, yes, ok. Well, cut of ccurte_,� for Mrs. Goff since she
is a lady and she was... even though we are in the age of EkA and all that
I think we ought to let her go first, ok.
Ms. Shirley Goff: -hank you Mayor Ferro and gentlemen. I'm Shirley Coff. I
am here representinp tl,e Miar.•,i Lesion Plaza Merchants Association. I hope
I'm not out of 0,(ier to just show you gentlemen a raise of hands from the
people in the audie-we who HI(. supporting, here with me. Thank you. I will
read a statement we have preparet'. conjunctively. "The growth of the Miami
Design Plaza in the last five years has brought it among the ranks of the
top design centers in the Nation. Lcac,Lng furniture designers from New York
and Los Angeles have opened showroom,,, in the district and has become the
primary design L;IikeL not only 'or custuners from Palm Beach, Broward and Dade
Counties, but our Lnt in Anteric at.: as w( ll. 111e design Plaza rt:presents a
multi -million dollar market which rest►its in r%,ajor ruventics to the Cicy
annually ana it continuucs };ruwi.h wii make .t. an ll.terllut]tllkfl design
capital. The Association h.is taken many steps to perpetuate this
expansion inciut,ing tL,-! introduction of a tram which Continually carries
customers throughouL tht district., the production of a trap ant; directory and
the initiation of tie:,lrnt•rs baLur(!,,ty all event which will bring dusii,n,:rs from
all over the state into the area in u,;ust. Ncwt'Vc'r, t1w 'l-it ►-1.CL n-eds further
help so that it, irow t'. c.a, bt Wt• rec,t,i. t,t from tht• C: t:lirt,-
five thousanil. tiollais it L110SU tU:" t:::'AeI- CO Lo
be used for ft►rtlior Prcrlori012 LT, OW 11 111:!, l)EKI;?:1 1)i.1l.A. t•..:•t :U:: ` :i :lc
be uied in 2dvert is i::11, C..li.p i� iL`. to 111Cieahl' vvtj) a(oCaLi il.,L 1(`II. •-t.iC
international a).oar:''r :•:, i,i the ,iistr'ict1 s re~uti:ces. A cruci:s: ?; .,. in t.hc'
area is for ati:l ?. .`1'2) O11 strtrri. p,trkilt4',. Th(- traw has one :tc'.) i.w t(` K ourselves
to alieviaL, tl,_' l)„rkinj, and it will t) - 'I It ', "',•k-, to
the Oloi,rc. ,If it:: cirp, I)il1 iv, liowuvt r, Lhe heed ; or more efl-strevL parkinz,
r. ,']ain.n i1Llli.1'31.-.Vku. whaLo er efforts are
nCLe_ssdrV to fAt, ll:lt Ili CTt'k t iL,i rOV.I'._:t':LS recori.iendt_'d by Che dt' ),I'La;'nt f
Public Works ..:i hLC t :.) ,e Siilj`: Vt.'.e':CS Jt anc kii,JrJ in r_ti15 ear's f ,st'al
schedule. :he 1•liami Desii n Plaza is ptcr L of th Buena Vista area in w'nich
there is high unemplo•;ment and low income. To keep incidents of crime from
growing in the tie:,it,n di::ti let a:L(l to off -set reactions to the area brought
on by the M.iy nuts. wt' clued ital`'d Poli• •_� protection and we need it immediately.
A gre,it ar:otiut ()1 att_. 1:ti : i . L ins k.,ivca to the :Miami DL:sign Plaza within
0& industr; nai l )nal 1% Lo insure that the ir,iportant economic contribution
and potential wllic:, i.i.• t'... ,n pi. .z.: r.'j)"•"ient.= LO the CitV C•111 JC sustained.
't'c• urge the ci,,' tt:, approv,, our request for funds and additional Police
protecti urt aiid tc- ,. Lv :etc t: U-1 \.it i:_h we :nay expect implementation
of street impro:cment;; an_i a.iditiunsi parking". Thank you.
Mr. Sullivan,: 1!, "1K V� .1., 1: ly i tl•1\'�' SilUw t)t hand:; of the V.,rl.0us :il(:mbers
of the Merc},ant As AiciaLioil from tilt'. Fasl,iOti District. ilia. nk you. The
Fashion Industry i:' unt• of the rlo:.t itnp )-cant economic force:. in th-..s
Country. it. is ,,it- of th., lari;ost (.-.0lovers it, 'coth tht City_ and
the :aunty i,rOdidL:ti .)\-(•r l.w..it: -fit',: va.idrol oI)s in the fashion district
an-1 over a huntiie ! �,nry ':.Tile, 1ollars ja revenues. 'file largest concentration
of manufactnrin,; plants anu whole sale, retail establishments are located in
the Fashion District in tl,e City of :Miami, specifically one hundred Seventy-
five businus-ic`; of w ;i.ch Lhirty- ci.gnt new businesses opened in the last year
alone. The Fashi`t:1 ),strict- Ke`ieveic;)!,loat Plan is the first rede•:eiop;ut:nt
plan the City of Miami hiss adopt-od, 1t was approved by the Gity Planning
Advisory Board, 4UO Advisor; Board, tll_ Dade County Commission anti the Miami
City Commi::'.i„n. i.+; .ail iio.l lia already been ailocaLed for the
implementation of this t)roject zis weli as a proposed four hundred :sand
dollars in federal. fonds for the training of minority workers for -*o's in
the indus(-ry. rho ; e.di,vtJop:,2enL plan specifies the acqu_.sition of land `or
public park; ui;, sua,►t i fi r',s :,)n of the district and vocational training for
minority joi).s. We re tnt• (:LLv C,)•raissio`2 expedite the impie::.entation of
t i,t'se plan-,. ` :n,'e the area li.t,t: at ilc frial;t' of a low iIILOLle.. is ig:ll:Orhood
and since th, ??av rttts tIisi ; nificanr t.'amat;e to tl:e area's Ecx:n r.;wu
emphasize a need for t,roat•'T visibi-.- P-11ce protection to secure the safety
of the district. anti t) roa : ;c List, vi"itors and resident,. who pauunize the
area. We further recoil;ncud the initiation of a special tax district through
which property owners will be a5--ess4'd cu provide extra security details and
other public imlrovc:iients III Lhe•Fashion District. The Fashion L'istrict
As:;nt.in, '.in ha-; sinut'rtaken sever.il steps to stimulate its growth. We are
currently putii h togeth-_,I a couperative advertising campaign, planning
a fashion festival kick-off for the Winter season and bringing in a tram for
the cotivenionce of shop t rs and to alit•viate our troublesome parking situation.
We have cotwiited fifty thousand dollars in association dues and projected
tram revenues for promotional purposes, but we need from the City matching
funds in order to carryo>>t the kind of promotion necessary. Specifically,
this means advertising targeted toward the tourist, resident population
and South Americans wro incidentially comprise fifty percent of our market
and production of a brochure which will include a district map and directory.
The Miami Fashion Industry is one of the most important economic forces in
Miami's economic stability and the City has made a commitment to help
protect and expand its viability. We need a specific date upon which we
can expect the provisions of the redevelopment plan to be implemented as well
as an answer to our request for additional Police protection and matching
funds of fifty thousand for promotion of the area. Thoogh we are the largest
industrial employer in the City with the kind of development and promotion
both the Planning Department and our assoiation have described we feel we
can become a major South Florida attraction. Gentlemen, we would appreciate
your consideration and any help that you might afford us. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, questions from members of the Commission? We have
fwo statements here. One is from the Miami Design Plaza Merchants Association.
and I thought they were the same, but they are not. We have a separate group
which is the Miami Fashion District Association. One is requesting from us
thirty-five thousand dollars in funds for promotion of the Miami Design Plaza.
The other one is asking several things anion?, which is fifty thousand dollars
for pomotion in the area and for additional Police protection. Is there anyway
we can join forces here between these two groups?
Ms. Goff: Well, that's why we are here together.
Mayor Ferre: Are %ou here tok,:then?
Ms. Goff: Well, we have jit,t u the last few months introduced ourselves
to each other and we find we hate c—i; needs. So...
Mayor Ferre: Good. Now, you were telling; u, that you are going to match us.
If we give you thirty-five thousand you are going to put urn thirty-five thousand.
Ms. Goff: I believe we have done that alreacy. Our Treasurer is ;.-re may be
he can help us.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, you already have thirty-five thousand dollars?
Mom. Goff: We have already got a tram running throughout our area that has
somewhat helped the parking situation, but we still...
Mayor Ferre: Are you going to do the same thing?
Mr. Sullivan: Yes, sir. We would be delighted to.
Mayor Ferre: Well, how are we going to work this, 1�ecausL! I wi!l tell you in
principle I'm in favor of the City of Miami cooperDting and working something...
I would like to have it as a jcint venture and I certainly like the idea of
matching, you know, where you come up with something and we will come up with
something, that's ok.
Mr. Grassie: I would think Mr. Mayor that if the City Commission were to
approve these two requests in principle and if we were to have a short time
to work with these two associations since we are supportive of what they are
trying to accomplish that we could get back to you with an appropric-_,n and
a plan to make this a reality.
Mr. Lacasa: What exactly is the request': The thirty-five dollar matching?
Mayor Ferre: No, no, there is two groups..
Mr. Lacasa: That's one. One group is requesting thirty-five thousand dollars
matching. That's yours, right?
Ms. Goff: We are looking for you.to match the thirty-five thousand.
Mr. Lacasa: Your thirty-five thousand dollars. And you?
Mr. Sullivan: Aac we are looking for you to match the fifty thousand.
Mr. Lacasa: To match the fifty thousand?
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Mr. Sullivan: Well, that's fine from a promotional standpoint.
Mr. Plummer: That breaks down to the initials I.V. which is a shot in the
arm.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, go ahead.
Mr. Sullivan: I want to particularly pjint out this paragraph in which we say
"We further recommend the initiation of a special tax district through which
property owners will be assessed to provide extra security details and other
public improvements in the Fashion District".
Mayor Ferre: That's fine. Let me answer you this way. We are about to do
that, hopefully and I hope we will have it before we go on our August break
if we can ever get... and I would ... Dick, get Stu Sidon to call Gensburg anO
let's get this thing over with. We are about to do that in Downtown Miami.
That's a special tax district. In other words, we have "X" number of Policemen
and women that are distributed as we can evenly across the City. We are oow
increasing that up to the highest we have ever had it, which is eight hundrod
fifteen. Now, if you and your particular district want more than that, then
we are going to allow you to tax yourself sLI that you will have additional
City of Miami Policemen in that particular area. So we will be happy to work
with you on that. Tae first test case is going to be. Downtown Miami and we
are going to let... and the m.rchants there are in favor of that. Now, if
your merchants and the people t..cre are in favor and You core back with a
similar plan when you get toge .- with Mr. Fosmoen on this other item you
can also discuss this particular r,,eFtion with the taxing district. Ok?
Mr. Sullivan: Thank you, very kindly gentlemen.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, can we call the roll?
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, wh,-;
moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 80-524
A MOTION TO APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE REQUESTS FOR MATCHING
FUNDS MADE. BY:
1) THE MIAMI DESIGN PLAZA MLRCHANTS' ASSOCIATION;
AND BY
2) MIAMI FASHION DISTRICT ASSOCIATION,
GENERALLY ENCOMPASSING REQUESTS FOR:
a) ADDITIONAL POLICE PROTECTION
b) BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE
c)EXTEDITING DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL PARKING AREAS
d) E)TEDITING STREET IITROVEMFN TS AND BEAUTIFICATION, etc.,
AS MORE FULLY OUTLINED IN TYPEWRITTEN REQUESTS PRESENTED TO
THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE TIME OF THE HEARING. SUCH CITY
COMMISSION APPROVAL. CONDITIONED UPON BOTH GROUPS GETTING
TOGETHER WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND PREPARING A JOINT PLAN
TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CO.VIISSION FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND
APPROVAL, AND FURTHER REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO
RESEARCH POSSIBLE SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Csrollo
Commissioner J. ;. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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Mr. Hy Katz: Your Honor? Mr. Mayor, excuse me, may I just take two more
minutes. My name is Hy Katz and I'm also representing the Miani Design
Plaza Association or what is commonly known as Decorator Row and I just want
to add a few things to what our President Shirley Goff said. The voting of
the money is a very good thing for promotion. Our thirty-five thousand is
there. There is no question about it. In addition to the funds for promotion
we have a serious problem with parking. Now, your Planning Department knows
about it. They have approved it, but it's somewhere down on our list which
may come up one of these years. If you drive through the decorator row area
you will find that there is no place to park and it's an impossible situation.
There is space, additional spaces available for off-street parking, sir.
Therefore, we ask that you move it out of left field onto present field.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we did that this morning in the Omni area. We moved it
out of left field and with all due respects to the Off -Street Parking Authority
who are a wonderful group of people and there is ore of the representatives
stalking by. They have their mandate which is adhered to and done very well
in a very conservative manner which is as it should be, but if we were to do
everything that way Downtown would still be what Downtown was ten or twenty
years ago. And so we are kind of stepping out a little bit from left field
as you say and we moved ahead to do this in Omni. We have also moved ahead
to do it and it didn't work out too well in Coconut Gruvc and I hope we will
have a rerun on that one. I would like- to recommend Mr. Manager that when
you come back on this matter with designers row that you also come back with
a little bit of forethought as to what we are going to do about parking in
there because I will tell you I have had the occasion to be there recently
in the last month or so and I will tell you the parkins; problem i-; Jast
terrible. One day I had to drive around for about five minutes looking for
a spot. Just going in circles all over the place.
Mr. Reid: Mr. Mayor, if I could respAid briefly to the question raised. Jim
Reid of the Planning Department. I1have three comments to make. One, there
is a parking problem. Number two, tae°Xave had a second problem of everytime
people come in to do their buildings and get variances and so forth they are
seeking variances on the parking that they should be providing with the
argument that most of their business is done outside of the office and don't
have the normal requirements. But that's a past thing we are not really concerned
about that. I think what is happening here is the Off -Street Parking Authority
has had a lot. It hasn't been a lot that's really in a good location and it
hasn't been used. So the tram is helping to increase the utilization of that
lot. We are tracking the fact that it's being used. As soon as we you know,
track it for a few more days we will have the justification for the opening
of a second lot. And I think there is a willingness to do that. We are
ready to do that. They are ready to do it and it's just a r;attvr of documenting
the fact that the need exist and they are helping to make the Sy,,, -Lem work. So
1 don't anticipate any undue delay in terms of coming bacK witil a Proposal
for some additional parking in that area.
Mr. Katz: Sir, how soon can we meet with you sir:'
Mr. Reid: Ok, you have been meeting with my staff. You can meet wit'.-, r,.
tomorrow.
Mr. Katz: Tomorrow, fipe. Where can we meet sir?
Mr. Reid: Well, you can meet me at 3342 Pan American Drive.
Mr. Katz: At what time, sir?
Mayor Ferre: I would like very much Jim in the interest of peace in th.,
family here that you include the Off -Street Parking Authority.
Mr. Reid: Well, we have.
Mayor Ferro: That you not do this without them being present and without them...
they may not agree, but that's ok, we will discuss that... but they should be
present.
Mr. Reid: I that's subject to the caveat that we will... I think we ought to
get together the three groups,.the Off -Street Parking Authority of the City.
Mr. Katz: I just want to make one last statement, sir. That is about the
Police protection. We appeared, was it last week when Chief Harms made his
presentation, we sat here all afternoon and many groups were here. It was
standing room only and we never �-,ot heard.Fortunately the City saw fit to
pass the additional Police protection. Unfortunately, this means it was going
to be quite awhile before the City of Miami has applicants before hire enough
Policemen to take over.
Mayor Ferre: Listen and thank God, that we are going to get another hundred
Policemen.
Mr. Katz: Ok, it's in the right direction. But we have quite frankly, a very
serious problem that we do not like to publicize. Our design area quite frankly,
we are way down in business. The reason for that is we have designers that...
Mayor Ferre: May I recommend that you he precautious in what you... I'm not
saying... we have a very responsible press here, but once in awhile headline
writers like to make some strong statements. Perhaps you might want to
reconsider...
Mr. Katz: Can we turn their sound off while I'm speaking?
Mayor Ferre: I'm afraid that you are not going; to be able to ti,rn the sound
off and they have to do their duty. You see, tke moment you make and it nay
be too late now. You may have made a statement and they are going to jump
on you right now and that's fair that this is news. :'hey have got to report
it. That's the American way that some big owner up there says that whatever
it is that you might say.
Mr. Katz: It's called "Sunshi•ie".
Mayor Ferre: Yes, and if you t-Lat publicized in the paper tomorrow you
go ahead and make your statement.
Mr. Katz: No, the publicize is to you sir, your Commission and to the Police
Department.
Mayor Ferre: And to the public which is present here.
Mr. Katz: And to the public. We have got to have more protection. Designers
come in fear or they do not come at all. We have seen a pattr-rn now where
if they do come to the decorator area they leave early fearing; that later in
the afternoon there is going to be some problems. Weekends and long weekends
we have gone out of our way expended out of our treasury funds for... thousands
of dollars for private security. We have millions of dollars invested and
this City of Miami has several major, hot things going for them. Omni which
is a neighbor of ours, the Fashion District another good neighbor and the Design
Plaza.
Mayor Ferre: We want to protect and keep you happy. We are with you, ok.
Mr. Katz: You are with us?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Katz: So where are the Police?
Mayor Ferre: And we hope that we will be able to do a better job in the future
and I'm sure that a lot more people will be aware of it now that y- Nave made
the statement it will be in the press tomorrow. So good luck to you.
Ms. Goff: Thank you, Mayor Ferre.
21. APPROVE ISSUANCE OF DEVELOP:CNT ORDER - WATSON ISLAND
A development,of regional impact
Mayor 'Ferre: Let's proceed on Iter: 34.
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Mr. Gilchrist: Mr. Mayer and Conunissioner, the last meeting on June 26th the
Commission took public testimony and postponed action on the resolution to
give staff adequate time to review issues that were raised there and to
consider whether they should be incorporated into the development order. The
development order has made some changes in it from that which was submitted
in the agenda at that Line. However, the basic contert of the development
order is the same. Primarily the ]evelopment changed from your original
agenda item on the 26th is to place a greater control on the development
process by the South Florida Kegional Planning Council and by the City of
Miami Planning Department who are now specified as a monitoring agency. So
I'm here before you t-)night to simply ask you to consider the development
order and the resolution before you which legally addresses the process of
issuing a development order.
Mayor Ferre: We were earlier is going to have to postpone this again, but
we are not going; to do that because evidently there are some questions
legally as to whether or not we should take this up within thirty days. So
we are not going to postpone it. We are going to bring this matter to a head
tonight and we are going to proceed with this. Now, last time around as you
may recall we to,k about three and a half hoiirs•---Was it three and a half
hours?--- of public testimony... well, it was... o.ti„ld you relieve one hour?
Would you believe two hour:? Yes, two hour:. Alright, well, then I stand
corrected, two hours. We took two hours. It sounded like three hours. You
waited three hours. We waited three years and thirty hours and what have you
and here we are again. 'Now, we li.ivt ... most of you thst I see here again have
already made state`^c.,L:_ into the re(.ord. T will only rec.ognir.e pe:ple who have
not spoken befort. Now, those of you that have not been spokesmen before that
want to say ;;om.,thing finally before this matter comes to a head will be
recognized. Those of you that have spoken before I assumed had ample opportunity
to say what you wanted to. As I recall we gave you forty-five minutes to
speak, you took up an h-)ur and fiftelcn minutes rather than fort ; -five minutes
between all the spe,:r:ers and I will recognize new �jpeake�rs at this time. Those
who have not made their state. Ye!�, sir you care come right to this microphone
and you have got... can you do it in three minute or do you need five? Ok,
I recognize you for five minutes.
Mr. Rill Moore: Alright, well fire,: of all I'm Bill cloore and I'm a resident
of Miami Beach. 1 commute daily all)ng the MacAuthur Causeway to the University
of Miami and first of all a brief new., flash that you may have missed today
?t 6 P.M. on Channel 4 news, it was mentioned that South Florida tourism was
down ten to twenty per,ent as a result of riots and recession type problems.
As it was mentioned that by the South Florida Regional Planning Council such
glitches tourism rate !an causes major problems in the cash flow to this
theme park and could re;ult in as orpo-ed to the three rllli^,n which was
supposed to be comini, to t1w City of Miami could result in problems, cash
flow in the other direction. In aduiti-)n to other points w'ki.::,.,ere raised
at previous meetings that suggest that the k�_tsoii 1a,land 5:te is not a good
site on which to construct a theme park I would like to add two more points.
In the realm of environmental impact the study was n1ade on behalf of the
City of Miami by Dr. Anitra thorhaug which indicated that "Aquatic phauna,
abunuance and species are very spar!,v in the vicinity of Watson Island
After a rain the pollutants which wash out from the parking lot and else
where in the park area Into the Bay except of course, for eliat well known
one inch that comes out the beginning that washes into the ground--- according
to the raport--- this will result in only a minimum increase in annual
pollutant loading in the Flay in comparison to the existing condition. To
rephrase all of this the Bay is now so polluted that very little marine life
exist around Watson Island--- this is a statement by the way which is disputed
by an independent study conducted by Dr. Patty McLaughlin of FIU. but at
any rate the life is apparently so sparse that if the City dumps a little bit
afore pollution In it won't have any major environmental impact. This apparent
policy should be viewed in contrast with Miam. policy on the Miami River where
contructive actions were taken to reduce pollution entering the water so as
to clean it up. My second point 111VOlVeS the potential of structuring of a
vital access route to Miami Beach the MacAuthur Causeway. It is interesting
to compare two causeways. The MacAuthur Causeway and the Rickenbacker Causeway.
At first glance they don't seem very similar, but if we take a closer look
we find that there are some interesting similarities. First of all if you
look at tourist parking spaces at the attractions along each causeway, on the
Rickenbacker Causeway you have a number of tourist attractions. You have the
Seaquarium with about nine hundred fifty tourist parking spaces, Planet Ocean
with two hundred, Cape Florida with approximately one thousand and Crandon
Park with approximately fifteen hundred. This totals to about tnree
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thousand six hundred tourist parking spaces along the Rickenbacker Causeway.
In contrast right now MacAuthur Causeway has approximately zero. However, if
the proposed Watson Island project comes through you have got three thousand
spaces coming in whtcln will be about two thousand six hundred tourist parking
spaces. So you would be bringing the MacAuthur Causeway right up on a par
with the Rickenbacker Causeway as far as tourist parking spaces go. Further,
the Rickenbacker Causeway services Key Biscayne which has a population of about
eleven thousand. MacAuthur Causeway services the 5cuthern part of Miami Beach
which has approximately twenty-five thousand. Each have opening bridges and
other facilities along the causeway of comparable size. Now, MacAuthur Causeway
is three laned and the Rickenbacker Causeway is twu lant•c'., so you would think
that this would be a major plus for the MacAuthur Causeway. iiowever, this is
deceptive since the West bounded lanes of the MacAuthur Causeway three lanes
become two lanes right where the causeway hits the City of Miami or hits the
mainland of the City of Miami because 395 is two laned and the third lane, that
one lane goes off as an exit to the Biscayne boulevard. Now, a chain is no
stronger than its weakest link and your two lanes on 395 are going to be
reflected all the way back along the causeway and you are going to have
essentially two laned traffic, so MacAuthur Causeway becomes very similar to
the Rickenbacker Causeway. Now, it is further claimed in this report here
of the response of the South Florida Regional Planni::k Council that very few
cars will be going onto Biscayne Boulevard from the park at least. if this
is true then my statement about the two lanes going onto 395 will be correct
and the traffic will be essentially a two lane type thoruughfary just like
Rickenbacker. As noted also in the response MacAuthur Causeway--- this is
on page four of this response. The MacAuthur Causeway is now heavily travelled
by automobile, tr�.i:, uotorcyrle, bus ana other traffic. :hr parailt; 1.it:
Rickpnbackcr Causeway will be _.,i-ilete with the addition of a theme park and
the MacAuthur Causeway will A., a congested mess. Please vote against this
environmentally damaging, pain i:, ac,ess. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are there aay further snea,.vrs chat wish to be heard at this time
that have not spoken?
Ms. Ruth Meinken: Mayor, I spoken the last time my name is Rutl: Steinken...
Mayor Ferre: Ma'am you spoke last time.
Ms. Meinken: Wait one minute please. My name is Ruth Meinken and I am a
i,�t_ive Miamian and I was born. here and have lived here practically all my
life and I did speak the last time. I am not speaking on my on behalf. I have
a letter from Professor William J. Fogarty who is the Professor of Civil
Engineering at the University of Miami, that lie would like to have presented.
Mayor Ferre: The Chair will recognize that letter if you would hand it over to
the Clerk we will make it part of the record. Do you want to read it?
Ms. Meinken: I would like to give you portions of it, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, the Chair will recognize that as an exception. Mr.
Fannotto you spoke last time sir.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: No, sir you are not... the Chair has ruled that you will... we
will only hear from people who'did not have the opportunity to express themselves.
You expressed yourself abundantly.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayer Ferre: He is not going to speak.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC REC.o•-
Mayor Ferre: He had to introduce the subject, obviously. He said "it's time
to vote". That's what he said. Go ahead Ma'am.
Ms. Meinken: Professor Fogarty has been a resident of Miami since 1944. He
is sorry he is unable to attend this meetii:g and ask that we present these
comments for him. He holds a'Bachelor of Science degree from the University
of Miami, Master Science degree from Purdue, University Doctorate from Georgia
Tech. His Bachelors and Masters were in cite field of Civil Engineering, but
his Masters degree in Environmental Engineering. He has participated with
Dade County and the State of Florida in drafting present standards which are
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utilized in the area of environmental engineering and highway design, construction
and maintenance and he holds many awards from the Florida's Governor's
conservation award, Dade County Citizen Safety Council, Citizen's Award,
Homestead Airport Saftety Award in addition to two outstanding teacher's
awards from the University of Miami. With... That was just a little background
on the Professor. Relative to the proposed Watson Island Theme Park Development
my professional opinion given with a reasonable degree of scientific engineering
and City Planning certainty is as follows. The presented Traffic projection
analysis appears to can initial input assumptions which lend themselves to a
serious question as to their validity. With such a setup input variable
questions the validity of the output is poor or meaningless. While growth
factors... Number two, while growth factors analysis was an initial tool used
in the very early days of bottling there are much more sophisticated and
reliable methods of projection available for use in today's transportation,
engineering, traffic project tool box. It appears from the documents provided
for a review that the proposal before you today is based solely on an interpretation
of results garnered through use and application of such grow factor analysis
With such methods is has been found that errors in prediction of several
hundred percent are to be expected. Certainly the analyses must utilize the
modern projection techniques which are available, not just the easiest and
earliest methods found in the literature. The proposed park area is in and
of itself insufficient to support a true theme park. The proposed facility
has due to a lack of expansion space a definably limited life span after which
1t will probably fall into a limbo state of existence. In the test of time
those theme parks which have obtained success have done so by expansion and
addition of new facilities so as to attract and reattrack residents in the
immediate area. The initial requested roll of the City of Miami by DWF, is
that of providing financial support including substantial development and
management cost. This in and of itself should provide a significant warning
to the City of Miami unhealthy. Generally the initial period of any project
requires support. The healthy long live projects which are well thought out
and projected do not require substantial risk capital from governmental agencies
such as the City of Miami. The amounts requested can be argued to demonstrate
a precarious and unstable guarantee a potential long lived success. Number
five, the available propark reports failed to appropriately address the negative
impact, attribute of the proposed facility relative to the demand for services
of the community which at present are so severely taxed. Input monies alone
have a higher priority of use at this time. The rebuilding strife torn
areas demands that the City of Miami seriously reassess their priorities for
placement of monies that come from their citizens. As stewards of the community
well, the leaders of Miami must reflect inwardly to their conscience
in this most serious matter of allocating resources placed in their trust by
the citizens of this area. It is my recommendation based on a review of materials
made available to me that the theme park as proposed be denied with prejudice based
on the lack of merit, the anticipated community cost and the probable short
lived duration of the facility. Thank you, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, very much. Yes, sir?
Mr. William Morales: My name is Willion Morales, I have been privileged over
the years to maintain cordial and friendly relations with the majority of the
members of this Commission. For the benefit of the record I will identify myself
as na officer, Vice -President elected last year as President and I declined the
appointment of the Venetian Island Association. The Venetian Islan6 Property
Owners Association. I'm also, Chairman of international relations for the
largest civic organization in the world which has hosted with great h-nor
our Mayor, Lions International. I'm unwilling to cross swords individually
with the members of this Commission, but I'm very happy to generate ideas
that will put my ideas to fight with yours. We live in the most wonderful
nation on earth. It's inspiring to think of what we have. We live in the
most wonderful state in the nation and in this garden state if you try to
find a spot plucked out of the earth created through the hand of man into
a garden of Aden which is matchless in the universe it would be difficult
for you to find a place more matchless than these wonderful island dredged
out of the Bay and through the hand of man converted into a garden spot.
Tliis is not an emotional appeal. I was out numbered in Cuba when I was
told... when I advised my friends communism was coming and I would have
called them idiot. Now, with you I would call worse words than that. My
purpose in coming here is to perform a duty to myself and the to the City
that I love and the City that you love. And I urge you to think very carefully
before you take this awesome measure and dwell on the consequences of crime
being committed in this area as it is being committed within what is generally
known as no mans land within the confines of this area. If we can't bring.
about brotherly love, peace, friendship within our races. If we can't bring
about harmony within the confines of our City how in the world can we hope
to bring it into arc-3 which presumably is ideal for the commission of crime.
You may remember when Kruschev came to this Country that he was allowea to go
any where he wanted, because his theory has that everything who was shown
was just a show. I suggested that they take him to the City dump and he
would see what we throw away, then he would be convinced that it wasn't a
show. But he wasn't allowed to go to Disney World. Why? Because it was dangerous
spot. How many crimes had to be committed in this pro'-osed amusement park
for the people to be deterred from goini; there? I have another question, if
people tonight are afraid to go 011t of their homes and there are thousands
in this area who are afraid to go out of their home. By what act of magic
can we tak: people out of their homes and take them to the park if they are
afraid to leave their home? The record shows that we have too much crime.
One crime a day is too many. We don't have one crime a day we many crimes
a day and if a fraction of the money which is car marked for this park is
ear marked for the prevention of crime by the man} techniques known to you,
but which require money you will be doing much for our city. We have a no
mans land and I call it a no mans land because I asked several of my friends,
especially among the Spanish speaking people, would tney take their children
to this park. You know what they told me, more than one,(SPEAKS IN SPANISh),
it's right next to the park of death, which I resented as describing Bicentennial
Park. We haVL got to raise the image of our parks. We have got to raise the
image of our might life. Nobody is going to go to that park after a few crimes
are committed. So here is hoping that instead of the seven hundred wonders of
the World this won't become the seventh blunder of Miami. I thank you for
your attention and I urge you tt r.ass on this matter as true citizens of Miami.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Moral.:s. X,xt speaker?
Mr. A. Asmundson: My name is Oscar Asmundson. I an from the Biscayne Bay
Pilots. I'm a licensed State and Federal Pilot to the Port of Miami. I appeared
before the Commission on the second of June at their meeting at lit- ird Johnson's
163 Street I think and I wrote letter addressed to Mr. Barry Peters into the
record so that ... I would like to read that same letter into this meeting again
to emphasize the Biscayne Bay Pilots stand on the turning basin in the Port of
Miami. "The Biscayne Bay Pilot Association the licensed State Pilots for the
Part of Miami would like to make known its position on the Watson Island
development and especially the marina proposed for the Southwest corner of the
island. The marina if constructed preclude dividening of the Port of Miami's
turning basin and therefore limit the ultimate shipping capacity of the Port.
The lack of this addition turning space will make it impossible for ships such
as the SS Norway to operate here year round. According to the recognized
international safety standards ships require a minimum of twice their length
overall for the turning of a vessel in restricted areas such as the turning
basin. Therefore, if the turning basin is not widen the SS Norway as well
the future generation of a ship planning to base in Miami will most likely be
diverted from this port. We have heard through the grapevine that the City of
Miami paved determined to refuse the building of the marina West of Watson
Island and into the proposed widening of the turning basin. We have also
heard through the same grapevine that the City of Miami is going to allow it
to be built. We have seen nothing in writing about this so we do not know
what the final outcome will be. We are opposed to the construction of a
Marina on the East side of the turning basin. As I said they should -__'use
it categorically considering the liabilities that may arise. The boat traffic
in the area is already saturated through the danger point according to the
U.S. Coast Guard. When turning a vessel in the turning basin... now, we have
the super liners coming into this port. The SS Norway have six thousand six
hundred horse power of side thrusters on the bc,w. When a vessel is
in a North South position in the turning basin she is approximately seven
hundred feet away from Bay Front Park, 1'LL jets from the side thruster
hits that bulkhead. If this would have ever to oe reversed towards the marina
somebody not on the East side of Watson Island it would cause damage to five
hiridrod thnissand dollar yacht that will be docked there.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, let me Just for the record so we can simplify things. If
we don't touch the shoreline ht all, at all leave the shore exactly the
way it is without nutting any marinas or anything, then technically you have
no objections. Is that correct?
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Mr. Asmundson: Pardon?
Mayor Ferro: If we don't touch the shoreline, nothing will be done on the
shoreline except bulkheads.
Mr. Asmundson: There is a proposed marina to be built on the East side of
Watson Island.
Mayor Ferre: My question to you is if the marina is eliminated and if the
shoreline is left the same, do you feel differently?
Mr. Asmundson: Yes, definitely.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, thank you, very much. Alright, next speaker? Go ahead
Mr. John Shubin: My name is John Shubin. Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission
most people think that the Watson Island amusement park project is dead. You
have even been quoted Mayor Ferre, that there probably won't be a Watson Island
theme park. Why do we have to keep up with this senseless charade. me Soutn
Florida Regional Planning Council recommended and I quote "overall the adverse
impacts and risks associated with the proposed Watson Island development from
the City and the Regional far out weighed potential benefits. Therefore, and I
$$the Council recommends that the City of Miami deny the Watson Island Development".
Nobody wants this amusement park on Watson Island. Most of the people are
indignant about it and the usual question that they raised is why is this
Commission determined, determined to jam this unwanted amusement park down
our throats. And even the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce who originally
support this project is having second thoughts about it and is expected to
soon withdraw its support. The South Florida Regional Planning Council
considers this project no good. The people consider it a bad deal and you
keep pushing, pushing, pushing to put it over. Again, I ask why? Reverend
Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa, you hold the power in your hands to kill this
ill-conceived deal for once and for all. If you think it is for the good of
the people to deliver a twelve million dollar fee into the hands of the
private developer whether the project is a success or fails and to back it up
with twenty million dollars of the City's franchise money, then vote to pass
the development order in defiance of the Regional Planning Council's decision.
Reverend Gibson this park has to be tourist oriented, which means bilingual.
How many Blacks do you think are going to get jobs and if some do believe me
they will be the same old menial broom pushing tasks. If you think a frivolous
amusement park to the tune of eighty million dollars in times like these of
high inflation is of prime importance, then vote to pass the development
order in defiance of the Regional Planning Council's recommendation. If you
were callous and indifferent to the plight of the residents living in the
immediate area of this amusement park and proposed heliport wnetner tney
are from the City of Miami or from the City of Miami Beach, then vote to pass
the development order in defiance of the Regional Planning Council's recommendation
for denial. Vice -Mayor Lacasa let's do a little arithemtic. This community
has got to figure out how to absorb a hundred thousand or more refugees. This
amusement park will employ approximately one hundred. One thousand into one
hundred thousand, I think goes a hundred times. If a project for one thousand
employees cost eighty million dollars we will need a hundred projects times
eighty million dollars or eight billion dollars, but I will be generous and cut
that in half. Ridiculous isn't it? This Watson Island business has been going
on for almost three years now. Do you realize how many thousands of man hours
have been wasted on this unwanted project. Are you going to allow 0,4s waste
of human energy to go on and on? Are we going to put all our energies to building
up human relations, Liberty City, Overtown and how to absorb all these refugees
Into our community and I think you will believe that these are the real problems
of our community. And speaking of energy amusement parks are extravagant energy
wasters. Your minds should be on the problems and not on a few people like
Run Fine, Irvin Cowin and Sam Friedland who seem to have some kind of magic
hold over the City Commission. You are elected to serve the people and Watson
Island is your test. Not only do I hope you pass I might suggest that you now
have the opportunity to earn the admiration of your community by courageously
speaking up for the people. Vote against the development order and let's all
go on to the more important concerns of the times. Thank you.
Mr. Harry Shubin: Members of.the•Commission, my name is Harry Shubin. I'm an
attorney and own an office building within the City of Miami at loth Street
Southwest lot Street and I pay rather heavy taxes, combined about ten thousand
dollars both City and County. Now, at the last hearing Mr. Fosmoen made someWhat
of a rebuttal and he relied heavily on... and incidentally I am goi►as to upe
only with reference to one Particular aspect of this project. Mr. Fosmoen
relied heavily on the feasibility study that was made by the Economic's
Research Associates and he made it appear that there findings were of a
finality and of the most extreme reliability. However, I wish to read from
a letter on the stationary of the Economics Rereach Associates which I believe
dilutes the efficacy of this feasibility study. I quote here first. "The
accompanying forecast made as of September 14, 1979 should not be construed
as statements of fact ---I would repeat, should not be construed as statements
of fact. The accuracy...
Mr. Plummer: Who is this addressed to sir?
Mr. Shubin: This addressed to the Mayor and the City Commission, City of Miami
City Hall, Miami, Florida. Mr. Mayor and Commissioners.
Mr. Plummer: And who is it signed by?
Mr. Shubin: And it's signed by Wayne R. Wilson, President of the Economic
Research Associates.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Of course, you know anybody who makes a survey obviously it's...
Mr. Shubin: Mav I continue?
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Shubin: As I said before thu litter says that the accompanying forecast
should not be construed as statements o: fact. The accuracy of the forecast
is dependent upon a number of assumption and qualification upon the occurrence
or none occurrence of future events which cannot be assured and therefore
the actual results achieved during the forecast period extending through
September 1987 may vary from the forecast herein. Now, I'm going to quote
one paragraph here which I think is most significant and I quote:"Ir, assesing
economic feasibility Economics Research Associates relied to a considerable
extent on privileged information relating to market penetration, operating
cast and other facets of the theme park industry and similar enterprises.
Li addition information and assumptions from many sources have been utilized
in the preparation of this report. Whenever such information and assumptions
have been included in this report attribution to such sources has been given
to the extent that the information provided by such sources is not accurate
or the assumption they utilized are not realized. Future results may vary
from the projections. Although we believe these sources to be reliable we
have not verified and offer no opinion on the information and assumptions
supplied by them. Changes in economic circumstances, shifts in markets, changes
in the level of competition, quality of management and I repeat quality of
management, occurence of natural disasters among other factors coula significantly
affect any or all of the projections". I say then based on this feasibility
report cannot be accepted as a document to be relied on at all. It is qualified
in every respect and it is not entirely dependable. I further say that with
respect to economic changes and things of that sort we have not... while we
have not had natural disasters we have had other disasters whicn 1 teel Unit
are similar to and should be... and our efforts should be directed to the
solving of those problems rather than have a theme park on Watson Island.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, air thank you, very much. Next speaker?
Mr. Bill Dodson: My name is Bill Dodson and I'm a professor at Miami Dade
and I didn't come with any prepared spec:c:. 7 just want to say this that I'm
moved to Miami for three year and don't own any property in Miami Beach. I
don't have any, you know, interest in it, but just as a person who likes
South Florida I asked you to vote on this with common sense. Common sense.
If you looked... all you have to do is drive down MacAuthur Causeway and it's
clear that to build and amusement park at that spot is an abomination. It's
a total irresponsible act for city government to sell that property to
developers. It's one of the'few open places left. It's a nice place in the
City of Miami. It's already paved over enough. It's obvious, clearly obvious
Just from the standpoint of common sense teat it's a mistake. Now, I don't
know may be it would be profitable for some people to vote for it, but it is
totally wrong and it's not in the beat interest of the people. It's not in
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the beat interest of the environment and certainly it's not in the beat interest
of long term planning for South Florida to build a silly amusement park on a
spot like that. Please don't do it. Just don't do it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further speakers? Yes, Ma'am?
Ms. Elizabeth Bulbee: MI name is blizaoeth bulbee unu I am a resident
of Miami Beach. I have lived in Miami since 1940. I came here in 1929 and
I went away to college and obtained my degrees and returned here and taught
school for twenty years. I have been a taxpayer in Dade County most of these
years. I have had faith in Florida. I have spent thousands upon thousands
of dollars in taxes putting what I have earned into my property because I did
have faith and I helped build this Miami area. I have lived in Miami and my
husband has lived in Miami and we love this country. We love this land. And
that's why I'm up here tonight to appeal. Now, I had two islands down in lslanuir.
and I was forced to relinquish these islands with the argument that these
-islands being developed by private enterprise would pollute the environment.
These islands were given to the public as a public park and as I understand it
they can hardly be used because there is no access only by boat. This went
on for many years and I suffered through this crucible and I now find myself
faced with having to defend my home. I should feel very remiss should I not
get up and say that I feel that this is a very... I really feel it's a moral
issue that we are facing because here we are reversing. We are taking property
from the public which was deeded to the public and I really am frightened to
think that just a few people can change the who picture and can rescind and
waive that clause that said Watson Island was for the public. And I am frignteneu,
I truly am concerned and I am here to plead to ask you in all fairness to
consider this problem very carefully because it's affecting the lives of many
people. Now, we are in Dade County. We are not perhaps all of us in the City
of Miami, but we are nearer to this project than you are and you know youselves
that in a private residential area this is not the kind of enterprise. We cannot
I feel that we should not take this land that was deeded to the public and
allow private enterprise to develop it however you might feel. I thank you
gentlemen.
Mayor Ferre: Next Speaker?
Mr. Bayard Strell: Mayor, gentlemen of the Commission, my name is Bayard
Strell. I'm proud to say that I live in the City of Miami, but where I live is
not important. It's what is being planned for Miami and it's environment
that's important. Mr. Mayor, I know that you have been thrashed unmercifully
with arguments. I am not going to repeat any of them. I hope the one that I'm
going to address is not one that you have heard before and it's very brief.
Part of the development project envisions the construction of a heliport
landing pad on pilings in Biscayne Bay along the bulkhead on the North side of
the island and move the existing heliport operations to this site. Mayor and
gentlemen, I think that engineering concept and design is another point. I
don't like to use the word argument. I think it is something that your
intellect will indicate that it is a fallacy on the part of the designers and
the planners and the construction of moving the heliport is going to intensify
the pollution. The noise pollution. I want to call to your attention something
that you may have seen. I don't know. I didn't see it in the newspaper, but
riding on the MacAuthur Causeway around two or three weeks ago on two separate
occasions I saw the most horrendous automobile accidents there. I don't know
whether the people died. I hope to heaven they did not, but they were carried
on stretchers by ambulances. That was caused gentlemen by the fact that some
of the drivers on MacAuthur Causeway were interested in the new Norway Steamer
and being careless about others on the highway they caused these accidents.
Moving your heliport to another location is just another example of the extreme
and the extent to which the planners have to go to clear the land for their
purpose. Their purpose may be note worthy. It may be variable. It may be
attractive, but what does it do to the City as s whole. I think it is destroying
the City and 1 hope that your vote this evening will support that position.
Thank you, very much.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, sir, thank ydu. Alright, are there other speakers that
wish to address the City of Miami Commission on this item that have not spoken?
Yes, Ma'am, come right up. .
Ms. Helen Thomas: Thank you, very much. If I may for just one minute make a
little comment to the Commiaeioners that still have an open mind about this
project, that the Watson Island... 1 would like... I'm not as eloquent as the...
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Ms. Helen Thomas: Oh, I'm HFe't—„ Chomas, 1021 Northwest 126th Street, Miami.
Watson Island being given to the public as it was uriginally. I think it's
one of the most beautiful places in our City that is enjoyed more by the
public perhaps than any place else and our Latin Commissioners will note too
that the... all parts of the population use it to launch boats and to go there
for picnics and to enjoys the view of tho cruise ships going out and everything
and I just feel like I have to say that ab much as I would love to see an
amusement park if the cost of it is going to be the loss of that beautiful
island to the public, I don't think it's worth it, anything is worth the loss
of the beautiful island to the public and that's all I want to say.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any other members of the public that wish to
address the Commission in this public hearing. Seeing none, then the Chair will
declare that this public hearing is closed and we w:ll now go to the Commission
and I will recognize members of the Commission for statements or questions
And then after everybody has had an opportunity then for a resolution one way
or the other. Alright?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have a couple of questions and it really doesn't
relate to the speakers of the evening. One question to the Adminstration Or
to whoever wishes to answer. One of the key factors in the development of
Watson Island has always been a UDAG grant. I woi.ild like to know where that
is? I am still understanding that it's a ten million dollar request. Excuse
me?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE ?"BLIC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: Seven ant; three is ten. Ok, I understand what you are
s.ying. There is a motion on t i, >f this Commission that before the
bonds are sold that had to oe in -.. Really the question is where are
we on the UDAG grant?
Mr. Fosmoen: It is still in Washingtiou under review by tre department of
Housing and Urban Development. They have £;ur periods each year t+.en they
review and make approvals on applications. The next approval perio,.would be
in the end of September.
Mayor Ferre: Explain why it wasn't funded last time.
Mr. Fosmoen: Well, for several reasons... principally one reason why it
wasn't funded last time Commissioner and that is because we asked that it
not be funded or that the application be held in limbo because we would have
been going to market with two major bond issues at the same time. Fifty-five
million on Watson Island and sixty million on the Conference Center. We have
now passed the hurdle on the Conference Center and we feel we are in a position
to start gearing up on Watson Island.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., can I interrupt for a second? What's the name of our
underwriter on this?
Mr. Fosmoen: Prescott, Ball and Turbin, Blythe, Eastman, Dillon.
Mayor Ferre: Prescott, Ball called the City and in discussion with this because
I was in the middle of this UDAG application. 1 talked to the underwriter,
I forget his name now.
Mr. Fosmoen: Don Chadwick.
Mayor Ferre: Chadwick, alright. And Mr. Chadwick told me that he thought
there was a fairly good chance of our getting the funding if we proceeded.
At the same time the Smith Barney sixty million dollar funding was coming to
a head. There was no way we could in «.. jeopardize the Convention
Conference Center for Watson Island. There was no question that the Convention
Conference Center was our nunher one, project and that Watson Island was a
secondary project. On that premise., we the City of Miami withdrew so that
there would not be a competition between these two City projects•at the same
time so that they would both not be going to the market place because there
was no question that if we did that it would affect the rating and the price
and everything ei ano that was just not an appropriate time to go for funding
for both projects. Now, in the meantime the UDAG people and in the White House
and the people that deal with these projects have stated on numerous occasions
that there would be an exceptionally good chance of funding if we had the
firm commitment of the underwriter. I cannot put it an stronger than that into
the public record, but let me say ttpD it is stronger than that. And I have
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absolutely no question that if we got a commitment from Prescott Ball and whatever
their name is as we did from Smith Barney and whatever their last name is I
think that we would have and we will in the future should this project proceed
bet the funding from UDAC,. The EDA three million dollar funding is premised on
the UDAG. If we get the UDAG we get the EDA. There is no question that we
get funded.
Mr. Plummer: Can I ask Mr. YbsmoLn at this time, has there been any commitment
or any discussion from bond counsel in reference to the bonds?
Mr. Fosmoen: Well, there have been up until the time that you know, we were
going... headed for the market at the same time there was considerable discussion
with our underwriters on the bonds, but 1... The issue for the World Trade
Center and the Conference Center was .just sold two weeks ago or a week ago.
I have not been back in touch with them. We have been moving toward the development
order.
Mr. Plummer: Alright. And this is a revenue bond?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, :sir.
Mr. Plummer: I want that on the record. Alright. Now, with the exception
of the South Florida Regional Planning Council this Commission really took its
stand a year, year and a half ago and based upon all of the information that
was supplied to us at :.at time to the best of your knowledge has anyone of
the people who supilicd expert information to this Commission had a reversal
in their thin'.►ng;:
Mr. Fosmoen: No.
Mr. Plununer: TharK you.
Mayor Ferre: Further question;? Are there any other questions on this matter
before this Commission? Any questions? Alright, any statements?
Rev. Gibson: What happened to Alva H. Chapman's position?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chapman has, personally changed his opinion on this project
and has so stated. The subcommittee that he heads has not finalized the
recommendation of the ,libcommittee is for reversal in their recommendation,
but it has not been fin�ilized to the best of my knowledge as of this afternoon.
Now, there will be a meeting; on the 21st day of July where that matter will
come for discussion.
Mr. Plummer: Well, unfortunately, Mr. Mayor, I don't want to throw any digs
at the Chamber of Commerce, but they were well aware that we were scheduled
to act this evening;.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, out of fairness to them, they did not bring this thing
to a conclusion because. they wanted to let me at my request I would address
them so that's in fairness to them. That's fair. Fair is fair.
Mr. Plummer: I'm asking; questions sir. I don't... if there is other answers
other than what I have heard, then I think they should he put on top of the
table. What is the answer?
Mayor Ferre: No, no, no, I'm sorry the public record is closed now for any...
I will answer the question. The question was asked. The answer is that at
my request as Mayor of the City of Miami the Downtown Committee of the Chamber
of Commerce postponed a vote until September the 21st. Let me say, for the
recortl that I have iio questions that onAlva H. Lhapman's rtLO►Wllrl►udt.iolt t►Iat
the Chamber of Commerce is going; to reverse its position, ok. So let's, you
knew puc it all up on top of the table so that there is no question as to
w1lo... ok?
l.ev. Gihsoii: hid Alva Chapman say why'.
Mayor Fvrrv: Alva Chapman... go ahead Mr. Fosmoeti. You want to read it?
Mr. Plummer: Father how did you get a copy of Mr. Chapman's letter? Was
it addressed to you? Or...
Mayor Ferre: There is no letter that I know of. Go ahead and clarify it.
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Mr. Fosmoen: There was a letter read at the last meeting of the New World
Action Committee and it was addressed to the Committee. We have not distributed
that letter because we don't have a copy of it. It was signed by Mr. Chapman.
I have if you wish a draft of the proposed resolution that was proferred by the
Subcommittee of the New World Action Committee, but you know, that hasn't been
acted on Commissioner. Neither has Mr. Chapman's letter been acted on. It was
simply an internal document within the Chamber of Commerce.
Mayor Ferre: So that nobody accuses us of hiding anything go ahead and read
that resolution into the record. Let's put it all up on top of the table. I
don't want anybody to say that we are ignoring the facts and not taking into
account what somebody else's opinion is. Go ahead and read it.
Mr. Fosmoen: (MR. FOSMOEN READS A DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION BY THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INTO THE RECORD). Now, obviously, when that resolution
was presented and I was present along with the Manager and Mr. Gilchrist, we
took exception to some of the assumptions that are contained in the whereas.
For example, the project has not changed substantially since 1977.
Mayor Ferre: Further questions?
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I find that rather difficult to understand why a man
like Mr. Chapman would not tell us why he has changed his mind. I think he
owes us that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, no, in fairness to Mr. Chapman. Mr. Chapman who was addressing
himself to the entity that he works wi.t.i► and deals with and that's the Charabor
of Commerce Subcrimmittee. Now I think that's understandable. I have got no
problems with that. And real • rT,; fact that the Chamber has not deliberated
is my doing rather than any'ody - '. d-ling and I. want to say it publicly.
I don't want to hide anythir.�-. T v ked -he Chamber to give me the opportunity
to talk before them. Now, as far as 1':i. concerned... I'm sorry that there next
meeting happens to be July 21st. Now, that... you know, we could have voted
on this at the last meeting and they still wouldn't have... the fact is that
those are they way the dates fall. I want to say inLO the record I fully
expect for the Chamber of Commerce to follow the guidance and 6if, r:commendations
of Mr. Chapman. And let me stipulate for the record that I fully s.dorstand
and I'm fully aware that the Chamber of Commerce is going to say "no" to Watson
Island. I know that. I will say so here, ok. Now, having put that on the
record let me also say tnat, that doesn't change my :Hind one iota. Now,
c;.ntinue. The Chamber of Commerce does not think for me. Nor does it vote for
me.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Why? Because I'm a person with my own mind an.i I have... I'm
here to represent what I think is the right thing to do. Now, further questions?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: No, Ma'am the public section of this meeting is now closed.
Now, further questions from the Commission? Further statements? Alright,
is there a motion? We have to make this one way or the other now.
Mr. Lacasa: I'm ready to make a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Well, make your motion one way or the other. Let's
Mr. Lacasa: When I came to the City Commission about a year and a half ago
this project of Watson Island was already at least at the very least a three
yrnr old project in the City of Miami. Since then we have seen -Commissioners
that previously has supported this project with you in support. People like
Mr. Chapman of the Greater Miami Chamlct.• Commerce indicated their support.
Since the project was not changed from the or'ginal project that was considered
back in 1976 at the very least. In studying tae project I realize the concern
of the people that live in the area. Back in December I proposed that the
project be split and that part of the project be placed in the Bicentennial
Park and the other part be left Watson Island. That idea was acceptable to
many people that was originally the opposition to the whole concept. Unfortunately
huwr.ver one idea was not practical because of financial considerations. I
was told that the bond issue wduld' not be valid if the project were going to
be changed substantially. Flow, what project means for the City of Miami
as a whole ... The City of Miami as opposed to what many people abroad feels
about us does not have tremendous tourist attractions. We have no beaches.
Those are in Miami Beach or in the County and Key Biscayne, but the City
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Miami itself has none. The many thousands of people that come to this City
of Miami does not find anv tourist attraction of major importance in our
city. We are trying to develo;• that. We are trying; to develop the City_ of
Miami in a major international City because we believe that this city's future
lies precisely on oui relationshil. with visitors. This is not an industry
oriented town. Our economic development lies on tourism and commerce. To
have tourism ae have to give something to those who visit us. That something
in this particular case is the theme park that we have planned for Watson Island.
I am sure that it has .4omc problens.No single project is without any problems.
We are now building the Convention Center in Downtown Miami and it does have
problems. Southeast hoc aun<nuu('ed that it's going; to build a fifty-five story
building in 1)ownt,,wn Miami. We need that, but still it has problems. The
so-called Ball Poiut is being develupt.d in a two hundred million dollars
hotel and condominium apartments complex and it does present problems of
traffic nature. The Brickell area has developed tremendously in the last
three or four years and does present also problems. However, the progress
of the City of Miami cannot be stopped because of the problems that particular
projects might present. The task from my standpoint of view is to continue
ahead and see how we can solve those problems of projects that we believe
are essential for the further economic development of the City might present.
We cannot stand still. This particular project represent the opportunity for
two thousand new jobs in the City of Miami. Two thousand new jobs plus the
fact of the monies and the econ-mics that is going to generate. The people
that it's going to attract for ytarn. For the last at least five years we
have been steadily 1. :ng; peoi)ic to the Orlando area. Today Orlando is an
international air;, rt and -Many pt.•ople that fly fr,-lm South America to Sonth
Florida are now bypassing Miami because we don't have too much to offer on
account of that. So therefore, I believe that the Watson Island pr ject will
bring more benefit:: to our community than negative. I'm hoping; and willing;
to work with the :ta;f and with the public to try to cope with the problems
that it might presen:. I'm taking into consideration the fact that when
some people here has said give Watson to the public. That is what we are doing;.
We are giving Watson to the public because Watson Island will. be enjoyed by
far more people once it's Cleve?aped than now that is only a barren piece of
land. So in view of those considerations I move that we issue the development
order of Watson Island.
Mayor Ferre: i.lripht, i,� there a second to that motion? Is there a second to
the motion? l.a:;tl\', tocre a second to the motion'' Alright?
Mr. Plummer: It's it,ima+erial to me. Mr. Mayor, for the purposes of discussion
1 will second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, them- ir; a motion and a second.
further discussion'
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion Mr. Mayor I have stated '.)ef(rc, I will state
again for the record. At tht• time whether it was a year or a year and a half
ago that this Commi.;lion made it's decision that Watson Island was a go. .I
don't think anyone: sitting here aid or made their decision based on anything
other than the facts that were furnished to this Commission. Sometimes when
I hear people speaking of Watson Island. I wonder why these people didn't
avail themselves of the facts that this Commission was furnished. Just using
one for example. One of the main objections that I have heard of Watson
Island is traffic. That's the objection I have heard and I'm not going to
sit here and say that in the future it could not be a problem, but have to
rely on those experts who this Commission pays such as Metropolitan Dade
County Traffic and Transportation who in written document to this CormAs-sion
stated that the present MacAuthur Causeway is only forty percent utilized.
Now,... excuse nit-, I'm sorry, that's what we have on record. Ok, you can
disagree that, that might be... and you might be right. I'm saying the facts...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE Pt1B1.IC RECORD)
Mr. Plummer: I'm not trying; to argue with them Mr. Mayor. I'm saying that
the facts that I have before me stipulate that it is forty percent utilized.
I ask then the people, for oxample, are you familiar with the new road that
Is proposed for Watson Isiland and most of them are totally unaware that the
prosent causoc:av a!i it exist today will not exist once it is developed. I
asked the question are you aware of the exit speed ramps that will hold some
three hundred automobiles. The answer is "no". These are facts that unfortunately
some of the peoPlo have not been made aware of. In conclusion I have stated
from the first day and 1 still state today. The final decision on Watson Island
oq to whether it will go or not go Iti not being made this evening. It will be
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by those people who scrutinize to the fulleFt before they invest their dollars
for the sale of the bonds and V n, sure without question that every fact and
every paper that has ever been generated on Watson Island to the present time
will be scrutinized by those people who will possibly or not bay the bonds
because there is no one that I know of who is going to invest their dollars
in bonds that they don't feel are very secure and are looking for an investment.
Mr. Mayor, 1978 we have statistics that tell us that thirty -six million
people came into the State of Flnr!La from the North. unfortunately, only
one third or twelve million of those people came from South than Orlando. There
has to be a reason. To me the reason is very obvious.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I find it hard to be
dealing with people such as the Chamber who were all go and all for this
project and all of the sudden whatever the reasons are they are willing to
back off and they have not furnished me with the iriormation or the statistics
or the facts as to why they are backing off. If they are honorable and
lawful people they ought to tell me. That's number one. Number two, I find
it difficult to understand Mr. Chapman and that's his right, has led me to
believe all along that we were going in the right direction that he stopped
at the time he did and has not made it possible to let me know why he has
changed his mind. I'm due that. I'm due that. %ov, I don't know how you
operate, but you don't lead me to the well never when time comes to drink and
tell me don't drink. I want you to know the last time we met I said I wanted
to hear Mr. Chapman's reason. Mr. Chapman is a big boy. Smart boys in the
Chamber and just like they do other things they would lay it out one, two,
three. Just like he does about other things. You see, you don't deal with
them as we do. 4NTLtever he wants us to do he will be down here night and day
at that mike and sometimes he _ays here until midnight. I think he owes me
that. And until he tells me-onrrary I'm going to assume that he either
doesn't want me to know or I m,,!., nave to assume something else. I don't
know what that something el:.P i;, but 1 .:now one thing I am not privy to
why he has changed his position. OR?
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I would like to for the record make a statement. First
of all so that there is no question about 'Ar. Chapman, because I feel partly
responsible for this, I have talked to Mr. Chapman and even though ::e is not
here to talk for himself let me repeat his statement to me as best I can. He
thinks that the project, even though it is the same, has changed substantially
because previously the private sector was going to put some brisk capital in
the project and what he feels strongly about is that the private sector is
not going to put capital into the project, but rather that the City of Miami
through revenue funding can put the money in and that employees would be
employees of the City of Miami. I explain to Mr. Chapman that this has to be
done for two basic reasons. First because the IRS would not give us a tax
free ruling unless we did it this way and secondly, because of the additional
expense do it without a tax free issue would make the project feasible, but
less feasible and therefore the sale of the bonds will be much more appealing.
He understood that, but thought as a matter of philosophy he thought that
the private sector should do this and that was his main concern. He also
thought that it was inappropriate for City employees to be working on a
theme park and those were his two main reasons. There were others which I'm
sure he will express to you when he has the opportunity to. I just want to
make sure that, that doesn't go unsaid into the record because I don't want
t1r. Chapman angry at me. I had no intent in anyway to deny him or anybody
else the opportunity to speak into the record. Let me make a statement now
for this project. This project has now been going for five, may be P4X years.
Actually it's longer than that, because this is... this comes out of interama.
This project was born as a matter of fact as a consequence of the fact that
Interama was not able because the bond market was not right. And when Interama
went down the idea was to transfer as much of interama as possible to Downtown
Miami. And so as a consequence we got the cultural center in Downtown Miami
with Gusman Hall. We got the University with :he construction of the Downtown
Junior College of Miami now called the r:'-i Community College. We were able
to get the Convention Conference Center on the way which is now under construction.
We were able to get the World Trade Center on the way which is now under
construction. We are missing from Interama :wo things. There are two things
missing from Interama. One'ls a major exhition hall and a cultural center.
And the second bit; thing that's missing is the theme park. Now, we started out
by taking the design for the theme park which was on our first two acres and
trying to see if it would fit any where Downtown Miami or any where within
a reasonable distance. The most logical place that came to mind as a matter
of fact one day with Phillip Johnson the architect when were discussing about
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a location for a mu,.viir,, and the of it was t'lis. This is an island which
has no immediate nt:t,,l:! , rc; ind l knt-,w• 11ti,t thcc nci�;hhoTs of Miami Beach think
that they -ire immodi.hte 1-it other than that, certainly on the South
side there are no ir,i,t�;li,ito ncih,hhor�. Se we avoid the problem of neighborhood
complaints. Secordly, it is an unused piece of property with the exception
of the Japanes, G,irdenF wlli(-h we are going; to retain. As a matter of fact
expand it. we art- going; ti: mctF,k it. a little bit larger. the Japanese Gardens.
The facilit i t•., Lh�t r,T t, tl, '. c, ..;!, !, is the Outboar.l Motor Club and Miami
Yacht Club is going to } e r(,tain,.A .t , l also expanded. ;,'ciw, we started in
the design ttF thi•- t•-' -1c . , btSL experl_ise wu could in the Country.
We got Randy ��:,;" ` ct_irtcs that ha.- done every maior theme park in this
Country. They havt. c;c,nL wool ft- t-vt rybo(ly iron Disney World on down. With
Disney people. 1''ie. 'ire .. they h,:%i done, I shirk eighty or eighty-five percent
of all theme parks an-•whert rco t;i,,, ;, w York w,a-re\,cr, they have done it.
We Rot the best Ir [l y�, i s it the nation ERA. No bank anywhere
Would lend any mo: t,; or fiiii,l am ;lhini: unless 1t had a stamp of approval of
ERA or the equiv,alvilt. Wt� ;•t,t tll-, c,itiillac in the husiness ERA. They are the
best. We went out and .t. r-id, 1 comV,IcLr ecological and development, whatever
It's called study and we go, the ptvitie who have dolle c,i•,.l.t�. percent of all
of the studies in tht• ' tat - L i l l rite..... ant,; what's they name again?
Post Buckley Jernipan and etc., etc., etc. they liave done eighty percent of
all the studies in the State of }Ioriva. Eighty percent. We got Wilbur Smith
which, if not the fir.,t i,, ,ertainly the second traffic engineering company
in the United Stat( . ri,,t t' , wr riu. 'they do more work on traffic studies
than anybody else , this Country. They oare down seers• an.! they looktd at this
and they said, .si: ,hest, xpt,rts rases, One, there are no traffic problems to
be concerned about.. T!,ey s:iid net me. They they c::perts. Two, there are no
ecological probate: thit rt. .ilI a7lount Lo anythiny�. :het it is economically
fcasihle and w'.11 I tll,, , i(Ill ,,fete We j'.tl' Our [lame Lo it. Wo rcc ommend it. Four,
It will be ,1. a,i. i. c: W;l� t1liA it will Le (orlipat ibl,� with tlhil; communit\ .
Now, I don't thii4: t:":t ,th,_,i;-i; who questions whether or not we need Miami a
theme park. Everybody is in agreement. 1 think everybody is is agreement.
Yes. We all a,,rof' tt• 1;,.tt. In other w•.Irds, I think the question is whether
or not is shoul,i ti;u on },air„„n ls,and. The Lhvme park is something... here is
a community that i�- bunt,: on tourism. There are twenty major metropolitan
areas in the Unite,! St.ite within South Florida and this is the only one in
t1w United States that does rlt•.t delve ., Lh,,,ne park within a reasunal,le driving
distance. We hdve o ,t i,t , tree that c- rie into this comnu;hity and .1,L, qut there
-T those boat on Crui`ttit Vitre arc, twc miIIicn „1 L[ieh,t ' \'t-dL. I''M jo,iLs
that leave this ^I ! there about twt_.Ity , t LiitSJ ,low Which two
million people have curA: i L Lcl'C, something; like seventy-f ive percent of
those people boating has spent an hour in Miami. They fly illLt, the airport
take a cab or a bus tO the L r•,'se pttrt , -,, L on t!o cruis( brae and leave.
Why because there is nc•t`.ting for them to dr) here In the it ui,irli, n. The sun
and the surf is just not enouk,,l, onymort- . So we need ... it wr are not t,oinr
to have gambling in !his community we need alternates an,'. L-,i:, is a hk;althy
alternate. So let's take til,,t one aF such. We 11' llrret• tnrit wC: ill' Lu
a theme park. they tiutsLion is now where. Well, yes it can be built out in
the everglades or (ijh in Browart.l County or someplace, but our interest is to do
good for the City of Miami. Either city needs this, but where in either city
do we have land thirty-two acres that we can do this" For us to g;, out and
assemble land in till- let's say the ghetto area. In thr first place the people
In the ghetto art'a get vvey upset. We tried... at one time we needed to look
for a baseball stadium an,i we Kati... this room was full of Black people saying
why don't you g;o g;et some cheap land in the %Nllite neighborhoods. Wuy do you
always come to the Black ne•ighhorlioods buy out the land, clear us out and
tell us to move on somewhere else and so we couldn't do that with the baseball
stadium and this will be th, same. We can't do that anymore. We have gone
beyond that in America. 'she second thing; is well why don't you go assemble
:come property that':; warchousv; not well used. Well, for the simple reason that tttirty
two acre: of downtown property or any property in t•ii3r,i would cost an absolute
fortune and there is. no question that it probably couldn't be done economically.
So we need to really look... is there any public land that we can do it on?
Well, I think that Watson Island is an underutilized piece of property. The
Chamber of Conmherce agrees to th.it. Thee said they want to put motels. They
want to put sllopping; and colilmrr•, i.tl there. TLey want to put all kinds
of commercial activity. We11,',I ,lot newt; for you, if this; thing goes down the
drain this isn't over voi: Will - tCe ih tt is and thii:gs being; built on Watson
Island. 1 don't have any doubt about it. Tile ti"ie will come when Watson
Island will he full of all kinds of bu i 1Kling;s and development: and marinas.
I really think that this i:. ;h much, much better use of that property. First
of all what we ary talking, .shout is not fift0en million people like Disney
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World. We are talking about at naximum when it gets to the top three... what is
it three and a half million. Vien it gets to the very, very top you are talking
about... what is it an average of fifteen thousand people at the maximum per
day?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Mayor Ferre: Thirteen thousand maximum at the very...
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Mayor Ferre: Seven thousand during any one time. You see, they are talking
about a very, very large thing. Now, let me tell you about the design of this
thing for the record. This is not going to be a honky-tonk, neon light,
gaudy thing. It's going to be designed like Tivoli Garden with a lot of
landscaping. We are going to spend two or three million on extra landscaping.
it's going to be a rustic type of a thing where all Florida and the Carribean
heritage will be emphasized. It's going to be the type of an amenity and
the type of a place that will be inexpensive to get into where the average
citizen can get to and will be able to enjoy without spending a lot of money.
It's going to have restaurants to fit all the different pocketbooks. If you
want to have a very expensive meal you can do that. If you don't want to
and you want to have a hot dog and a beer you can do that. By getting into
the facility you are able to enjoy a great deal of the amenities and then
there will be six or seven specialty rides and things that you will have
to pay to get on. Now, one of the key element here is that five percent of...
is it five percent? Who can an_wer that? Is it five percent of the gross will
be used for cultural events? C'- Fow, cultural events is defined not as
rout rr somP concert. It , ,Ie tie strolling violins. It will be
rocx _ bands. It will be Acrobats. It will be wrestlers.
.rust like Tivoli Gardens: and T;vnii. which is probably one
of the most attractive places. And. b•i the way, that theme park is only on 22
acres, which is even smaller than this: •••And that survives on three
million people a year. That's all they get. Three million people and they
do that five months and it functions and I think it's a great place. And I
happen to think that, that's the kind of a thing that the City of Mian.-& very
much desperately needs. I think it will be economically feasible. I think
will be attractive. It will be a great tourist attraction. And as J. L.
Plummer or LaCasa, I forget which, in their statements said, let me end up
wit.: chat, because I think that's a real key point. The real decision as to
whether or not Watson Island has any economic sense which is the only thing
left is whether or not we are able to sell the bonds. If we are able to sell
the bonds then somebody out there believes fifty-eight million dollars worth
that this is going to be a good project. If we are not able to sell the bonds
that means that ERA and all of us have been wrong. That's the..in America
the American way the acid test is does it sells. If it doesn't sell when we
go to New York and say here is what we want to do, we want fifty-eight million
dollars and there are no takers then it's no good. And if somebody says we
believe in that here is fifty-eight million dollars then they are willing
to risk their money. That's where the private sector comes in to sir. Chapman.
The private sector is going to lend fifty-eight million dollars for this
project to go forward. And that... I have never been worried about any of this
because by all the attacks from the Miami Herald editorials and the concerns
of the neighbors in the island. My concern is the acid test where we are really
going to have a big success when we get up to Wall Street and so... I have
not seen anything in the last month, six months to a year when Rose Gc.•..,,n
ran for Mayor and that was her main subject, that if you want to save Watson
Island from a theme vote for me. I was never worried about that. I knew that
that would not sell. I don't think the people of Miami who have not been very
well informed of what this project is all about are against this -project. I
Obviously, with the all of negative information and negative editorials
that have come out of our leading newspapc• here, of course, there is a lot of
confusion. What I will tell you is as my trend Joe Carollo says "you got to
have the courage. to believe in something even though sometimes you have
got to bite the bullet, you got'tQ stand up". This is not a... I know I'm going
to get all kinds of editorials and all kinds of attacks and I have had them
before. And like Harry Turman Baia "if you don't like the heat in the kitchen
get out". In this job you have to have two things. You got to have a thick
skin and once and a while you got to bite the bullet. Bullet biting time has
come once again. Alright, any other statements of members of the Commission?
If not call the roll please.
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ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Carollo: Before I cast my vote I would just like to make a brief
statement Mr. Mayer. This bas l-)ecn a very involved and :Omplicated
and complex project. ';*h,,rc• has i.ec,n thousand upon thousands of paper printed
on Watson Island. I have to admit there is a lot of good points that Watson
Island has. :t's taken me from the time that I have been elected to the
City Commission to noa to - ally try to reed a fraction on what's been printed
on Watson It',' P"(7.hnr'c- when you know that :all the other (COMMENT
INAUDIBLE). I believe that every member of this Commission has a sincere
(COMMENT 'NA111)IBLF) 1 iK(' tI F. M :c; Mated ono. of ",v beliefs is that if you
have the cour:!•;c• itangy up for what you believe. I personally feel that
the City of Miami .:.an certainly i+sc .a theme park. However, 1 there is some
key factors in the Watson Island project that I'm not totally convinced that
(COMMENT INAUDIBLE) i�, a concern of (CO`^1FNT INAU)IBLE:) but I think it goes
far beyond that. I think that tbt lncation for instance possibly might not
be the best idea location. I would personally like to see the City of Miami
study the Bicentennial Park (COTIFNT INAUDIBLE) the FCC railroad property
,that's on Biscayne: Boulevard (COMMENT INAUDIBLE:) to have build a theme park
w there where I think there dei`initely will be much less (COMMENT INAUDIBLE).
It would be the light o: the City in a more o-u.+taOv IOLatiun. Who knows
may be sometime in the future that mig..ht be (COM!"TENT INAUDIBLE). There are
p several other things that I had great doubts about and great concern about.
z One of them is that 1 thinl•. may he the City of Miami is stepping a little
a to far in pur_tink, t 'lit in t'.+i.:; kind of proiect in dollars and cents.
c I would like to !,ec she City of Miami (COMMENT INAUDIBLE) Watson Island. I
could go on ;n oncerns that I have. At the same time I could point quite
ac a few positive things, that I see in the Watson Island project. (COMMENT
INAUDIBLE) tb;at my per;onal convictions help and that before the, City of `tiar.i
4ticks its no +.. way -)ut in a project, as big as this, it project that cost
cemillions of d: 11arf tilat k%atson Island will I think that this Commission
w (COMMENT INAUDIBLT+-). It 1 would have had a meeting; with tiie citizens of Miami
the day before this I would have no problems in voting for this tonight. But
as it stands :inJ hecause A,f tile. reasons that I have Stated and because of
having seen the refercndu+r. that (COMMENT INAUDIBLE) all of Miami (COMMENT
INAUDIBLE) and the other reasons stated I have to vote "no".
Mayor Ferre: For the reasons prevLorisly stated (CC*tMENT INAUDIBLE) and that
is that this p eriol (,` +i(.i mploymunt that we face tine fact that this project
ii committed to n,i.nority unemployment and youth unemployment I think is a
najor factor. N::, are talking about eventuall,, .n thot:sand permanent
jobs the vast majority of wi+;c:i will be minority and youth. The type of first
entry jobs that are essential for us to build in this community. These are
jobs that are nut going to regliirc i;r,at deal of traininf: or a college
education. Most of rh: theme park:; around the United States, Disney World
included use younp people of all color,, and Of all creeds and it works very
successful and I think this is th(- type of ,nplryment that we will be getting
out of this and I... Fo1 this and the other reaso,ts stated by me previously,
1 vote "yes".
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its aduption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-525
A xf•.sui.rriON OF THE CITY OF MIM11 COMMISSION
AUTHORIZINC ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER,
APPROVING WITH MODIFICATIONS, THE WATSON ISLAND
II'.VELOPMENT, A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT,
PwwosI:D By THE CITY OF MIX1I LOCATED ON WATSON
ISLAND AND BAY BOTTOM ON BISCAYNE: BAY AFTER
Ct+.NSI DER I NG THE REPORT AND R+:COMMENDATIONS OF
T111- SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COI'NCIL,
APPLICA 11ON FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, THE
"RLSPONSE 1'0 THE: SOUTH FLORIDA RECTONAL PLANNING
CotITNCIi, STAFF ASSESSMENT OF THE APPLICATION FOR
DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, FOR WATSON TSLAND", CITY
OF MIAMI (MAY 1980) 1NCORPORATFD BY REFERENCE,
AND THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOAR11 OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI
ORDINANCE 8290, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE
DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND AFTER CONDUCTING PUBLIC
HEARING AS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 380.07, FLORIDA
I ID 0 JUL 10198Q
STATUTES; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO
SEND THE RESOLUTION TO AFFECTED AGENCIES AND
TO CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT IN AND FOR DADE
COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Plummer, Rev, Gibson, Vice -Mayor Lacasa and Mayor Ferre.
NOES: Mr. Carollo.
ABSENT: None.
22. AFRICAN TRADE FAIR- Approve course of action in principle
Mayor Ferre: Father, we have vote.' on the African Trade Fair. Do you want
to cast your vote on that?
Rev. Gibson: Yes, sir, I want c,, ask - cful:a questions.
Mavor Ferre: Alright, Father Gibson on the African Trade Fair.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I hope that this business is structured so that some of
us will play some significant role and part and I want to make sure pe,,1 e
understand what I'm saying. I, my brother I want to make sure that sore of
the people like this guy will play a significant part in this African Trade Fair.
Do you understand what I mean?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Rev. Gibson: Do you understand me Mr. Grassie?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Rev, Gibson: I promise you and God that if that doesn't happen a lot of people
are going to be in trouble. Now, let ask this. Any Black folk on that team?
Mr. Gary: Yes, I would like to introduce Ms. Wilhemina Tribble. Would you come
forward please?
Rev. Gibson: If I learn nothing else about Africa you better carry some of us
in.
Mr. Gary: Ms. Tribble has been doing some preliminary work with us in the
preliminary work with us in the preparation for the African Trade Fair she
is presently on the... She has been assisting us in the preparation for the
African Trade Fair.
Rev. Gibson: I'm not doing; this very politely or gently. I mean playing a
significant part. You know, to tell me you are on the team is to tell me too
much. I have been on too many teams where . '--d no voice and no vote. I just...
I was on a religious show last night ane, you know, I sat there and I was just
quiet for so long. The Rabbis couldn't understand.
Mr. Gary: Commissioner, let me give you two responses. The first is, is that
we met with a number of African Ambassadors in New York. George, the Mayor and
myself... in Washington, excuse me. And one of the things that I got from those
meetings was that the African Countries in addition to being excited by the
trade fair were excited about being about to do business with other Blacks in
the United States and this was also conv_;;:d to us at a meeting in the Mayor's
home doing the Latin Trade Fair. The second thing is that most of the African
types of consulting organizations of which we are proposing that two firms
be hired one of those we anticipate will be a Black firm. Secondly we also
anticipate that the local firm that would do the day to day operations would,
also have black input as demonstrated by %:s. Tribble and 1 assured that, that,
would also be expanded.
Rev. Gibson: Let me mike sure, my brother, you understand so that we don't
have to argue abou= this lady. I'm not talking about no black input. I'm
talking about blac,c ownership, posession. That's what's wrong around here
now. In and out.. And I mean visibly so with a relatively good piece of the
profit.
Mayor Ferre: rather, you don't mind if I rag along?
Rev. Gibson: I hav,- !,•) objection to that, but I just want to make sure that you
know... I say this because a part of what is happening in this community when
people are up here talking d11 tia s other stuff they want another program. I
want to make sure that everybody understands me and I want to go a step further.
I think that the City needs to raise a question on every contract that you get
about the ethnic composition. I think that we ought to set some examples here.
We ought to have some Latins on this staff. We ought to have some whites o:.
this staff. We ought to have some blacks on this staff. That's what the
compisition is like. Arid I han to say to two rabbis last night, they were
talking about how you know, you come to America. I said you know what I'm not.
mad with the Latins. so let me make sure you understand. No other group of
people that's come to this country :-:ad so much talent and so much money... I
said to them, I said, "You kn,:w, I'm really the only minority". Mr. Grassie,
I'm the only minority. iou doggone right, Plummer. When I walk in that door...
You sec, that ,ir; there you met to ask him what he is. I be cloggone if you
have to ask me. ,emu follow what I'm say.ing. I just want to take your time so
I don't have, to do this again. I think every contract let we need to raise that
question once and for all. Ani I... Mr. Grassie, I took advantage of you two
evenings ago with Dr. Britton. I told him to ask you why is it important that
you ought to havj... that ho ought to have a black that talks directly to him,
that if I did nothing else for you I told you the importance of Jack Bond and
I tole] you when you will get to Jack. I didn't want no black Assistant City
Manager. I want an l,n•;istant City Manager who is a black man. Do you remember
that? If I did no more than educate you on that I told Dr. Brittain, I said,
while your heart is heavy you go talk to Joe Grassie and maybe you'll get some
consolation. He hau four assistants, tell him I told you this, he had one Latin
and three whites so I said Latins cf)uld think for re, whites could think for me.
W'�rc is my input? Ycu never thought I felt that way, thank God I had an
ol.-hortunity to express it tonight.
Mr. Plum.-ner: This money it is my understanding that this money before con-
tracts would be let that these contracts will come back before this Commission.
Mr. Gary: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: What's that?
Mr. Plummer: Before any contracts are let of this 109,000 they will be
brought back befor,2 this Commission.
Mayor F�.,rre: That's understood isn't it?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir, it's in, the packet on a memo.
Mayor ferre: All right, further discussion on this? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-526
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE PROPOSED COURSE OF
ACTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AFRICAN
TRADE FAIR AS FULLY OUTLINED IN MEMORANDUM DATED JULY 2, 1980
FROM HOWARD GARY TO JOSEPH GRASSIE AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY
COMMISSION ON THIS DATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, I put this its.;..;: he agenda because there were some
situations to be clarified between one of c.r departments, the Economic Develop-
ment Division and the people that are operating Trade Fair of the Americas but
obviously they are working out whatever differences they had so I would like
to defer this item.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion to defer Item "I". Would you put
it on the agenda then for the next time, Mr. Grassie?
Thereupon on motion of Commissioner Lacasa, seconded by Commissioner
Gib�un, the item was deferred by the following vote -AYES: Mr. Lacasa, Rev.
Gibson, Mr. Carollo and Mayor Ferre. noes: Mr. Plummer.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lacasa wants the item brought before the Commission on the
24th of July for discussion and he will outline - Mr. Lacasa, I think it is
important, and this is a constructive criticism to all of us, rather than
just to put it on the agenda Telecommunications you have to explain what your
concerns are so that we're prepared to discuss it intelligently.
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r24. DISCUESIO,, A:`A:::'IrNT USE.
Mr. Jim Reid: Very briefly, then: was a rFquest in F(,braary, February 26th,
that the administ.ratiun come back withir,iiCi days with respect to establish-
ment of a special :u>ninq cl,!sisification for rental units. Thirty days later
a legal opinion was renderer] on that issue stating that the answer is in the
negative and the Comr.issiotr has copies of that opiniem. But the Planning
Department went a little beyond that in the sense that we investigated whether
there was a neec for multi -family zoning (1) with setting aside rental units
and (2) what specificilly might be done to prom-te rental units. In terms of
the relationship bf•twaen zoning anti rental 1_tnits )r the cost of rental
units it in our ivl(lement :s tor: complex in terms of pr,luuiny rental housing
to think that zoning alone could do the job. For example, if my louse were
zoned for multi -family I would r,ot sell it to anybody at single family prices,
I would sell it to them at multi -family pries - not hat I'm proposing such
a zoning, that's just ar, example. The other thin;; is the main reason rental
housing is of being p:c 9'r .-'. is bec; us,� the return on investment is not suf-
ficient to people wh:, .Mild be produci.nr; such housing. Condominium housinc;
is being prod-i F •; t ;:i .;h in,, ome cr,,u-r itho tt r)ur 1-4t ; an! we yet then
proposals at ev•_ry zoning hearing but in order to produce rental housing we
neeJ to do more. But just talk about multi -family ror,ina to begin wit`,.
(1) :here is cc:nsi ler..,tle upr,n::.unily for a33itior.al roside::tial de:eler-
meur under existing zoning. If we h.id the money in the bank ar.? the 3eve:c ors
waiting and the denim .,niform throughout Miami an additional A1,000 units
could be built under the present zoning, nobody would have to make a change,
they would just have to corm in and build under that zoning if all these
facturs were th't:r: �, i . (.') ele: h,,ve studies underway now, I think the Com-
mission gets the i:rprvF:;i n that we're negative in terms of additional develop-
ment and so fort",,, we have sometimes. We have studies underway that would
re-,:nne and permit. 8,80 new units in this city over ar.1 above existing dens-
ities And those r tuJiee ,-,ie :oinin,j into the Commission, they relate to areas
jr the transit J,.�ticr:, like t,.. Park West ar,d so forth. Finally, the new
zor•ing ordina:,ce would enrourage multi -family development in the sense that
housing ^ninimur ',.cu13 to remover, you cc.#uld build at higher dens-
ities if you choose to, the new system that we tire proposing for multi-famil-
ics uonsistcnt with FI:A standards so once you've met the Miami Zoning Ordinance
standards you could meet rilA standards, there woul,l be no double system and
we're doing thir,gs like lessening Farking requirements, therefore, lessening
costs that have to btl r-nduly be passed on to the consumer if yor.'re re..'_1}
requiring excess Furring.
Mayor Ferre: We have your report before us, you're recornme:.dinc: spe:;itically
seven items, I 1,E•rsunally think that all seven of tnen are reasonable, hethaps
what we ought to do as a Commission is just pass a resolution supportinq all
sever; of these items and akinn you try bring them ul, one at a time at the
appropriate time in thc� future for specific discussion one at a time and the
specific arnondments to the regulations or zoning rules or whatever it is that
needs to be done.
Mr. Reid: Wt wantel to he responsive to the Commission's concerns.
Mr . I„a•.:,i:,., W, 1 1 , t hk-r.r i:; ;nme more to this than just a simple issue.
M M•r, •i Tl,i is wit;: "dat is 1.asically a major Froblem that the City
MI,W11 h,,:; ,M,l ' fi,,t i t h,- kick of housir:g. 1 believe, Mr. Reid, that to
r wit h t hi>. I : u t: ,u;: your dcl„rtment will have to , ome with more innovative
i.0 •<<; than this pai t icular memorandum. The basic problem is exactly what you
s,rt.i. Wt h.:ve a lacrl of r'rnt.tl units IWCause rental units are not as profit-
chle tr:r pi.Lvate entieprcnncurs, developers and land owners as condominiums ;
.+rt'. That is the reason why we do not build more rental units in the city of �
Mi.rm: ,111d 11-0 seen sevt.r.:l of those that we already have converted into
uundominiums. This 3uesn't :solve the problem of the citizens of the City
of Miami and tt,e City Commission is not living up to their expect-
ations unless we came with something much better than this. So if the prob-
lem is economics, and we all agree that that is the problem, then what I
suggest that we explore is the possibility of making through our limited
resources land more useful as far as rental units s concerned. I submit
to you, for instance, that taking now advantayes of the fact that we are
having a comprehensive review of our going regulations it might be worth it
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to explore the possibilities of the department and, of course, the Zoning
Board and the City Commission conslierinq more liberal variances of density
in cases where on a voluntar,, Lasis developers right come and make a coven-
ant to the City that they will use their multi -family buildings for a cer-
tain number of years for rental purposes only. If they make a covenant on
a voluntary basis that would be legal would it, George? If the covenant is
a voluntary one, if a developer comes to the City Commission and requests a
variance for density and Le on a voluntary basis makes a covenant with the
City that he is going to use this multi -family building only for rental pur-
poses for a certain number of years wouldn't it be legal for the City Com-
mission or the Zoning Board to accept the covenant which has been offered
on a voluntary basis?
Mr. Knox: Well, initially I would just point out that we never have any
problem with accepting voluntary offers and having them become enforceable
by the issuance of covenants and we can participate with Mr. Reid in look-
ing into that question and other questions relative to how we can encourage
the development of rental units because we have contact with people who do
have some ideas about that.
Mr. Lacasa: Because the problem is that unless you make the land cost per
unit lower for those who Night build rental units and, therefore, motivate
them to get into the rental business you're not going to have any private
developers building any rental units and the City of Miami does not have
the resources to do it by itself and the end result is that we are, there-
fore, not providing our citizens with that service. So unless we come out
with some innovations and we put our heads to work, and this that I am pro-
posing now might not be the ans•.:nr, the answer might be something else but
certainly, Mr. Reid, the answer a;,a= not lie in this memorandum which only
states what we already knew abc;u rr zoning regulations, our own limitations
e.nd propose some idealistic solutio:.s tl.nt are very difficult if not imposs-
ible to implement. We need somethi..q more solid than that, we need something
more pragmatic than that, we need something mire attractive to the guy that
is out there willing to build....
Mayor Ferre: Armando, it's here.
Mr. Lacasa: No, it's not here, Maurice, it's riot here.
Mr. Reid: Mr. Mayor, if I could just respond, just one comment. We don't
thi.:k this memorandum is the end. All right? The Commission is going to
be asked to use tax increment financing to support it, we've asked for money
from the federal government to write down land around transit stations and
when we dispose of land we can write the condition in that people produce
rental housing and we are going to look at other innovations. I just want
to rest you assured on that point.
Mayor Ferre: You have the best solution right here in this memorandum and
that is that up until now we have had 500 single family houses per year which
is nothing built in Miami and in 1979 we had 1000 apartment units which is
the highest we've ever had which again is nothing. Okay? And that's all
done in expensive condominiums. Now, the solution is what you propose inside
of this and that is along the rapid transit corridors we have the ability to
develop around these these stations up to 8,000 apartment units. The only
way you're going to be able to get low income - rephrase that - rental units
that people can afford is by the government owning the land and then putting
it out for lease for specific contracts because if we go out and rezone your
property for multi -family units and we upgrade the zoning what you're going
to do is you're going to sell it to the man who comes along and wants to buy
it and obviously you're not going to sell it as a single family residence
you're going to sell it as a high rise site and the guy who buys it, Mr. X,
Y, Z from Venezuela or New York is going to buy it and he's not going to put
rental units on there and there is no way you con force him to do it legally
as according to George Knox. He's goinc .ut the highest and best use and
that's condominiums and we're back to where we were before. The only way
you can control it is if you get the ability to develop property around these
stations we have the ability to build 8,000 units which is a tremendous amount,
we've got $25,000,000 worth of bonds of which $23,000,000 remains, that is
where we can go in with government funds of some sort to Section 8 turnkey
projects on a rental basis and that we'can control and that's the way to go
that's the only -.venue open that we can use the legal resources to move for-
ward. I recommend that you come back specifically with that as an expanded
idea and specifically take one project on as a test pilot and let's see how
far we can get with it.
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Mr. Lacasa: And that land around the rapid transit stations, how are we
going to get them to Le developed into this type of....
Mayor Ferre: The City of Miami goes and takes the property for public use
under legal instruments that we can use under the State of Florida. We then
have a preliminary design and say this piece of property can have a 200 unit
apartment, since we bought it for the zoning which is a much lower zoning we
change the zoning when we own it then we sell it to the developer at the price
that we bought it which is significantly lower than the going price for apart-
ment condominiums `jut the conditic,n is that it must be built either as a
Section 8 or comparable private financing wherein the units will be up for
rental. That's the way we (.an d�) it and there's a legal avenue to do it.
Mr. Reid: You can do it at 7 of our 10 stations.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's good enough.
Mr.'Lacasa: How soon could you come back to the City Commission with a more
specific plan about this? And how soon do you feel that we can start to im-
plement this plan taking into consideration the fact that we also have the
$23,000,000 of unwed bondL for housing that were passed about 4 years ago
and that the citizens of this City have never seen the benefits of it?
Mayor Ferre: Would you believe in the next two or three months and the first
project will be the Washington Heigi.ts Station where we specifically applied
for Section 8 funds where we're specifically working on a project at rapid
transit stations.
Mr. Reid: I think in September and October you're going to have sore probe is
in rapid succession.
'ir. _.acasa: You fee'_ that by September or October we could have the first
steps taken?
Mr. Reid: We'll have Some projects before this Commission for approval in
that relate to the use of innovative financing to produce rental housing.
MaY:�,r Ferre; All riqht, further discussion?
25. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: RE-ESTABLISH CITli AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Knox, that is a board that is answerable .lirectly to this
Commission, am I correct?
Mayor Ferre: That's the way it reads.
Mr. Plummer: I want it on the record.
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
tir. Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll on 14.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 8725, ADOPTED
NOVEMBER 10, 1977, IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND SUBSTITUTING
THEREFOR A NEW ORDINANCE RE-ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF
MIAMI'S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD CONSISTING
OF 14 MEMBERSt PROVIDING FOR THE ELECTION AND/OR
APPOINTMENT AND FOR THE TERMS OF OFFICE FOR SAID MEM-
BERS; PROVIDING FOR THE BOARD TO SERVE AS A FORUM FOR
HEARING AND REVIEWING COMPLAINTS AND GRIEVANCES AGAINST
ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN THE CITY'S EMPLOYMENT AND
HIRING PRACTICES; ESTABLISHING THE FUNCTIONS, POWERS
AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD; PROVIDING FOR THE BOARD'S
SELECTION OF ITS OWN OFFICERS; PROVIDING FOR THE
APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY'S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SUPERVISOR
AS EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF THE BOARD; PROVIDING FOR
REGULARLY SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THE BOARD IN
CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAW;
PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CERTAIN RULES AND
PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR THE DISQUALIFICATION FROM
VOTING OF MEMBERS HAVING CONFLICTS OF INTEREST; PRO-
VIDING FOR DISQUALIFICATION FROM THE BOARD FOR UNJUST-
IFIABLE ABSENCES; PROVIDING FOR THE DEPARTMENTAL
ASSIGNMENT OF PERSONNEL REQUESTED TO ATTEND THE BOARD'S
MEETINGS; PROVIDING FOR THE COORDINATION OF CITY BOARDS
AND DEPARTMENTS IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY'S
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRt\l- PROVIDING FOR THE REVIEW
OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PL"'S eOR THE CITY OF MIAMI;
PROVIDING FOR THE SUBM:SS_:. ;�: THE BOARD'S REPORTS
ON THE PLANS TO THE COMMISSIG.;, i R"TIDING FOR A PUB-
LIC HEARING ON THE REPORT OF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD BY THE CITY COMMISSION NOT LESS THAN 30
DAYS FROM THE DATE THE REPORT IS SUBMITTED TO THE
COMMISSION; PROVIDING FOR AN ONGOING REVIEW OF CITY
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PLANS AND PROGRAMS; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION; A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the city commission and to the public.
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26. AUTHORIZE I'I'i "A;.?„L R S,:B11I1' GR.1:;T Ar r 7 ICATION:
OF A JUVFN] T i -, R�'NA.v,0 I F:C), ECT .
The follow: :11. CA' .:a it,t, '.iced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RLSOLUTION NO. 80-527
A RESOLOr1011 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A GRANT
APPLICATION TO TIF BUREAU OF CRIMINAL JUST'CE PLANNING AND
ASSISTANCE. DIVISION OF STATE PLANNING, DLPARTMENT OF ADMIN-
ISTRA;ION, STATE, Cr FLORIDA, FOR FUNDI14G OF A JUVE14ILE RUN-
AWAY PROJECT AND TO EXPLOP.E ALTERNATIVE WA"iS Or COMPLEMENT-
ING THE PRIb'.AFcY Mf�SION OF LAW ENFOI;CEMEI'T WITH DIVERSIONAFY
AND PRL:V::N'-1%'L: SCCIAL IERVICE 3TRATEGIFS; AND AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MAI%'AGF'R TL" ACCEPT T1iE GRANT AND EXI::':'T:: THE NECESS-
ARY AGREEMENTS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM UPON RECEIPT OF THE
GRANT.
(Here follcuA:; t ; of resolution, omitted here and or, file
in the Off_ic_ of the City Clerk.)
Upon be.iny seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYE 7.mirissioner J. L. Plummer, .'r.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
nacctvT. rnmmiSsioner Joe Carolio.
27. WAIVEi,. OF 'T'IM.L I,l:_ ,'RICTION - 6=1ER SPECIAL GOLF PACKAGE -
MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB ICJ MIAMI SPRINGS.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner F"lur'mer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-528
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE WAIVER OF TIME RESTRICTION FOR
THE SUMMER SPECIAL GOLF PACKAGE AT THE. MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB BY
THE. GOLF COURSF. SUPERVISOR WHEN REVENUES DECREASE IN AN
AMOUNT OF 25% OR MORE, THEREBY ALLOWING SAID SPECIAL RATES
ALL DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, APPLICABLE ONLY DURING THE PERIOD OF
TIME WHEN THE GREENS ARE UNDERGOING RENOVATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in t1w. Oftice of the City Clerk.)
11p.,ll lwiii-i by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed anvil
,,•ic,pted lly t.114. tull.•winq vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOLS: None.
ABSENT: Commi::�,,_ ,, Jac Carol.lo.
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28. ENTER INTO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT: ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OF THE LATI11 QUARTER.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-529
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES IN
CONNECTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE LATIN QUARTER
WITH THE LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WITH FUNDS IN
THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 FROM SIXTH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
GRANT FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES:
Commiss°oner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissic-ie: (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice- .,)r Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I'm going to vote on this favorably. I have been opposed to
the location in the past, I am still opposed to the location, I am in ac-
cord with the concept and I personally believe that the proposed economic
enn,uItants will Drove that I'm right so I'm going to vote with it.
29. AUTHORIZE SALE OF BEER AT ORANGE BOWL STADIUM
COMMENCING AT 12 O'CLOCK NOON ON THOSE DAYS WHEN
GAME COM14ENCES AT 1:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-530
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE
BOWL STADIUM TO COMMENCE AT 12 NOON ON THOSE SPECIAL
OCCASIONS DURING THE CURRENT FOOTBALL SEASON WHEN A GAME
IS SCHEDULED TO COMMENCE AT 1:00 P.M.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Pl.i)mmer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
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r30.30. AUTHORIZE CIT}' ':ANA(;ER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT:
C. B. AS0OC1ATI( .4 FOR USE OF 48 110BILF RADIOS.
The foilO.-., ,• r -1 + int wdF in.tt( -7nced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-531
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL, ASSOCIATION CB OF FLORIDA,
INC. FOR THE USE OF FORTY-EIGHT (48) MOBILE RADIOS, IN
CONFORMANCE WITH THE TERtIS AND CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH
IN THE. ATTACHED AGREEMENT.
(Here fr�llr•.:s l:. ( f resclution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of *he City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commisbioncr J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Cummissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gilson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOV.-': : None.
AB:,171T. Comtnissil)nt. i .Toe Car,lllo.
31. APPROVICITY MANA(IT;R C:),VIISSIONING OF ARLY14 ENDE AS CITY
ARTIST TO (:Hi:A!'I; TAPESTRY FOR LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY
CENTER FACILITY.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved
i_s adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-532
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER'S ATTACHED REPORT
DATED MAY 23, 1560, WHEREI14 HE PROPOSES TO SELECT ARLYN
ENDE TO BE COMMISSIONED AS THE CITY'S ARTIST TO CREATE A
TAPESTRY FOR THE CITY'S LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER
FACILITY AT 070 S.W. FIRST STREET; SAID COMMISSION TO BE
PTEFLECTED IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT FORM;
WITH A FEE FOR SAID COMMISSION NOT TO EXCEED $6,500; AND
AUTHORI'LiNG AN AMOU14T NOT TO EXCEED $8,200 FOR OTHER WORriS
OF ART, INCLUDING DRA:4INGS, PAINTINGS AND PHOTOGRAPHS,
FOR SAID FACILITY FROM PROJECT CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
14-11 betu,t set-otided by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
.1-101.t &I.1 l)y t ht, f -)I lowin.t votv-
AYES Cotn:ni:,sioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
CConunissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOLS: Nona.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
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32. REAPPOINT HINES BREEDEN AS MEMBER OF CITY OF MIAMI AFFIRMATIVE
ACTION ADVISORY BOARD. 9.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-533
A RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING HINES BREEDEN AS A MEMBER OF THE
CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD TO SERVE A TERM END-
ING JANUA.RY 24, 1982 AND CONFIRMING THE DESIGNATION OF SUCH
INDIVIDUAL AS BEING SELECTED BY THE SANITATION EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION, INC.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissio
33. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENT:
PARKING FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AT NEW ADMINISTRATION? BUILDING.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-534
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A
LEASE AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR A P')RTION
OF BLACK 95N, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN
THE A.L. KNOWLTON MAP OF MIAMI, IN PLAT BOOK B, AT PAGE 41,
OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA; BE:NC ADJACENT
TO THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND TO BE UTILIZED FOR
A SURFACE PARKING LOT FOR THAT FACILITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
ili JUL
34. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO :XPEND NECESSARY FUNDS FOR
PLAQUE FOR NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
Mr. Plummer: I',1 'ikc t� mike , mc,tion at this time that. the City expend the
funds necessary for the placement of an appropriate photograph framed for pub-
lic places, be allowed as an expense for the building and I move that in a
motion.
Mayor Ferre: For what building is this":
Mr. Plummer: For the Doi, Hickman Building.
Mayor Ferre: All right, and a plaque.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I want tha City to spend the necessary funds to put the
appropriate picture and frame <f the individual in the building. You'll do
it with no problem?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, we can do it.
Mr. Plum,-ner: Fine.
35. ESTABLISH POLICY OF THE CITY CO�t%IISSION COVERING PF CEDURE
OF PERSONAL APPEARANCES DURING CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS.
Mayor Ferre: All right, does anybody have any problems with Angela's request
here?
Mr. Plummer: Trying to mako her life toc easy. Wait a minute, I've got an
amen,r%ent to that. I want to make an amendment to that that any item not ad-
hu i.., to the procedures outlined will be placed at the end of the agenda.
in c,ther words in thvse cas(s where they have not complied and it is of nec-
essity that the Commission hcdr it on that day that the people who have been
here to adhere to the agf.uoi are not penalized.
Mayor Ferre: That's a go.:)d idea.
Mr. Plummer: Those people go to the end of the line. Do you follow what I'm
saying?
Mrs. Bellamy: Okay, they're not on the agenda....
Mr. Plummer: When Ernie Fannatto comes here and tells us how he elected the
Mayor I want him but to tho• end of the line.
Mayor Ferre: Watch it. All right, I think that is an acceptable amendment
to the maker of the motion, is it acceptable to the seconder of the m on?
With that amendment call the roll on 24.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
RES01UTION NO. 80-`_,35
A RESOiAITION ESTABLISHING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION
COVERING THE PROCEDUIU•: FOR PERSONS WISHING TO MAKE PERSONAL
APPEARANCES DURING CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THF: HF:itF:IN ATTACHED .STANDARDS AND RULES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and nn file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote- AYES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Lacasa, Rev. Gibson and
Mayor Ferre. ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo. NOES: None.
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36. AWARD DID - RIVERVIZW STORM SEWER PROJECT - PHASE II
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-536
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF WILLIAMS PAVING CO., INC.
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $174,913.42, BASE BID OF THE PRO-
POSAL, FOR RIVERVIEW STORM SEWER PROJECT - PHASE II; WITH
MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "STORM SEWER GENERAL
OBLIGATION BOND FUND" IN THE AMOUNT OF $174,913.42 TO COVER
THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF
$19,240.58 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $3,498.00 TO COVER THE COST OF
SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $3,498.00 TO COVER
THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES,
AND POSTAGE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $7,748.00
TO COVER THE INDIRECT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
37. AWARD BID - LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462-C & S.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-537
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF F. J. SILLER AND COMPANY
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $2,539,253, BASE BID OF THE PRO-
POSAL, FOR LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN LYNDALE
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5462-C&S (CENTERLINE
AND SIDELINE SEWERS); WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM
THE "SANITARY SEWER G. O. BOND FUND" IN THE AMOUNT OF
$2,539,253 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID
FUND THE AMOUNT OF $279,318 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT
EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID TUND THE AMOUNT OF $50,785
TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING
LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; ALLOCATING PROM SAID FUND THE
AMOUNT OF $112,478 TO COVER THE INDIRECT COST; AND AUTHOR-
IZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote- AYES: Mr. Carollo, Mr. Plummer, Mr. Lacasa,
Rev. Gibson and Mayor Ferre. NOES: None.
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38. AUT110Ri�-E EX}'CU'T10N GF C. :'IR',i:T: HOUSING PROJECT DESIGNATED
8-1 (WYNWOOD) A14D HOUSING
PROJECT DESIGNATED 8-11
(LITTLF HAVANA)
The followinq resolut.',- w,- int-oduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved
its adoption:
NC,. PO-538
A RESOLUTION AND :-%r,TH(IRIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
PROJECT CONTRACT kti.LATING TO THE HOUSING PPOJLCTS IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI DF.31GNATED DADE 8-1 (WYNDWOCD' AND DADE 8-11
(LITTLE HAVANA) PURSUANT TO THE BASIC AGREEMENT FOR FINANC-
ING HOU£IN^ IN THE CITY OF MIA.MI, DATED JU•'LY 19, 1976, AS
AMENDED, AND MAKINI-- CERTAIN DETERMINATIONS WITH REGARD T-
SAID HOL'S1NG PROJECTS IN ACCOFDANCE WITH SAID BASIC AGREE-
MENT.
(Here follows body of tesolu:.ion, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Uao;i being serond_.' �cr.c�i. :i�uer Gibson, the resolution was pissed and
adopted by the follo: r vote -
AYES; Joe Caroll(.,
Corinissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Q,.;,T.iSsioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibso,t
_e-Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Ma'irice A. Ferre
NOES: Nvne.
39. TRANS'Fi.R ^43,O')o 6TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO
ALLAPATTAII C=MUNI^"' ACTION, INC., SENIOR CITIZENS ACTIVITY
PROGRATI IN THE AT,!, .. ATTA11 AREA.
The followin3 rosolnti.,r, was in*roduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
1LS adoption:
RESOLUTI0N NO. 80-539
A RESOLUTI014 TRANSFERRING $43,000 OF SIXTH YEAR CONIMJNIT'i
DEVELOPMET11 GRANT FINDS FPOM THE DESIGN OF ALLAPATTAH STREET
IMPROVEr1ENTS TO AI_LAPATTAH COA:1UNITY ACTIO::, I114C. FOR THE
PURPO_ F OF I,ROV:DIN(I A SENIOR. CITIZENS ACTIVITY PROG',W, IN
THP. ALL.APATTAII AREA; INCREASING THE AGENCY'S ALLOCATION
FROM $17,(1((1TO $60,000 FOR THE PERIOD JULY 1, 1960 THROUGH
JU14F: 3' , ;'UPT1IFR AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER. TO
PROCEED WITH SAME.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
UI%on being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
_r,ted by the fol lowinct vutt, -
commissioner Joe Catullu
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Terre
N•:_.. None.
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r40_ ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF TWO APPRAISERS FOR PURPOSE OF
DETERMINING PRICE OF PARKING GARAGE CONFERENCE CONVENTION
CENTER.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-540
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INTERVIEW,
SELECT AND NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS WITii AT LEAST TWO (2)
INDEPENDENT APPRAISERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMPLYING WITH
THE CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS OF THE TURNKEY CONTRACT FOR THE
CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE; AHD FURTHER AUTHORIZING
THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN PAY THE FEES NEGOTIATED FROM THE
BOND PROCEEDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
41. CONSENT AGENDA.
Item #138 was removed from the Consent Agenda at the request of Commissioner
Plummer.
A motion that the Consent Agenda, comprised of Items 35, 36, 37 and 39
was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Carollo
and was passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES. Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
41.1 BID ACCEPTANCE - LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER BUILDING "A" ROOF
REPLACEMENT - SANDRON CORP.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-541
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF SANDRON CORPORATION IN THE
PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $36,700, BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR THE
LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER - BUILDING "A" - ROOF REPLACE-
MENT, ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF $36,700 FROM THE "4TH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUND" TO COVER THE CONTRACT
COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $4,037 TO COVER
THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES,
AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
f Ar
41. 2 ACCEPT COMPLETED WOk" - A ,Lr.PATTAP MINI -PARK DEVELOPMENT - ANAR
CONSTRUCTION CORP.
RE:;GLU','10N NO. 80-542
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF ANAR CONSTRUC-
TION COF:PORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $65,445.00 FOR ALLAPATTAH
MINI-PALK DEVELOPMENT; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF
$6,544.5n.
41.3 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK - MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-543
A RF.SOLLTION ACCEPTING THI. COMPLETED WORK OF MIRI CONSTRUC-
TION, INC. AT A TLTAi COST 01' S129,733.00 F'JR LITTLE RIVER
COMMERCE PARK; ANL AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $12,973.30.
41.4. PUBLISH NOTTCE - OLJI:C110NS TO COMPLETEL CONSTRUCTION OF "S.W. 22 STP.EET
HIGHWAY IMI'EOVL14ENT -- Pi:*.SE III" - H-4418.
1-i._S.JI.UTI:iN 140. 80-544
A RESOLUTION DiRlICTINC, TPI, CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJEC"PIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE
CITY t-C`MI _.17T'rD CONSTRUCTION OF S. W. 22
STFI.F'T HTCIf7; ,. 1 4 FG'✓I:MF!1'I - PIIASF II DISTPICT H-441b.
42. DIRECT CiTi CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE: PUBLIC HEARING FOR
L,BJECTIui.. T,_, A,ai::`1' COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION - FLAGLER STREET
HIGHWAi IMFk(_-VEMENT - 3RD BIDDING.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, ur *"hc thin'. biddiny, Mr. Grassie, is this the same
item as item - we're !.,tf:ii it backwards, Maurice, and that's where I was
going to raise the c_lu.;;tion before. This also, doesn't it relate to Item 10?
Mr. ,_.Sie: The an,wcr i:. yes, C=missioner, let me ask, would you like fur-
ther .explanation of it:'
Mr. Plummer: Well, I've r.;,t some problems with Item 10.
Mayo_ Ferre: Weli do y-ki want to take that up first and then come to this?
Mr. Plummer: Well, this is more direct to 10 to what I want to sneak to than
10 overall.
Mayor Ferre: Well go ahead, Mummer, I recognize you for Item 36.
Mr. Plummer: My back up material tells me on the Flagler Street Improvements
that everywhere but Walgreens who have agreed to pay for their own finishing
of this sidewil) impir.)vements - now my question immediately has to be what
about- the areas other than Walgreens that are not finished?
Mr. Cather: Any areas that are not now finished we are going t=,
have to complete with the exception of the place where they tore down the two
buildings and they art going to rebuild that sidewalk after they have completed
that. work.
Mr. 1 1 . ITIMcr : Yes, when?
Mr. Cather: We'rc trying to push them on that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you see. let me tell you something, you could be talking
abc�O. a couple of years.
Mr. Gather: Yes, but, Mr. Plummer, the work that was done there was
completer) and then they destroyed it.
Mr. Plummer: Then why aren't they charged with restoring it?
Mr. Cathy: we are charing them with restoring it but that is under
a separ-aty 00ritract, it wasn't our contractor that destroyed it, it was the
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building contractor who tore down the building.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I understand what you're saying but why do we have to wait
until they start construction again?
Mr. Cather: Well, we didn't feel it would make sense to put down
the tile again and have them wreck it during construction so we asked them to
safe it up and put a temporary suitable sidewalk down there.
Mr. Plummer: Do you have a bond?
Mr. Cather: We don't have a bond.
Mr. Plummer: Do you have any money in escrow?
Mr. Cather: We've tried, yes.
Mr. Plummer: I wish you well. I'm concerned. There are more areas than just
Wafgreens that are far in my estimation from being completed. Okay? Now I'm
concerned because this thing has been nothing but trouble to you, to everyone
and I'm just concerned that we have plunked out in the neighborhood of $700,000
and it is still not finished and it doesn't look like to me in the foreseeable
future, well, you just told me in the foreseeable future it's not going to be
finished.
Mr. Cather: We have instituted legal action against the owners of
the %algreen Drug Store properties.
Mr. Plummer: And you're recommending that we go ahead and pay?
Mr. Cather: Pay Marks Brothers because they have more than done
their work, they have done it two and three times.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I guess what you're saying is we've got no other choice.
All right, let me ask you this, on Item 10 - reducing S. W. 27th Avenue Street
Improvements - how can you take money, what is suffering in that project that
you're taking $63,000 from?
Mr. Cather: We had funds in the S. W. 27th Avenue Street Improve-
ment Program which we could use to pay for these funds, other projects which
can over.
Mr. Plummer: What's suffering out of that because of deletion?
Mr. Cather: Nothing.
Mr. Plummer: In other words you had $63,000 too much.
Mr. Cather: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-545
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE
CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF FIAGLER
STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT .(THIRD BIDDING) AND FLAGLER
STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT EXTENSION (THIRD BIDDING) IN -
THE FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4372-A
(THIRD BIDDING) AND FLAGLER STREET HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
EXTENSION DISTRICT H-4391-A (THIRD BIDDING).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa ((��
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro .�UL 01�U�
NOES: None. 117
43. FIRST AND SECOND READING U114ANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATION
FOR FLAGLER STREET IMPROVE ENT AND EXTENSION COCONUT GROVE
BUSINESS AREA DF.COMTIVE LIOHTING.
AN ORDINkNC.F. F.NTITLEI) -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9019,
ADOPTCD NOVF.6'IEF, 6, ])79, THE 17APITAL IMPROVEME`JT APPRO-
PRIATIONS OrWINANCF. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER
30, 19b0, AS A1.1ENDFD; BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION
FOR II.B.1, FLAGLFP. ST1?FFT IMPROVEMENT AND EXTENSION,
BY $37,000; CnConlj' GROVE BUSINESS AREA DFCORA-
TIVE PF.Dr:S1'kIAI7-SCALr: STREET LIGHTING PRO.1i.CT, BY $25,900;
AND REDUCING II.C.2., S. W. 27 AVENUE STREET IMPROVEMENTS,
IN THE A.^lOT1N'f (,F 3 2,900; CONTAINING A RF:PF.ALFR PROVISION
AND A SEVi;PAPILIT' CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE RE-
QUIREMENT nv PT.A',)".' ..i,^4E ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE
OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS :)F THE COM-
MISSION.
Was introduced by Commissicnez i'lu;rur,er and se..-nndel by Commissioner Gibsor:
for adoption purs:ir.t . :, , 1 rncraph (f) of the City :hurter, dis-
pensing with the tF7, m_:t' of Leading same on two separate days by a vote
of not 1CSS thc,n .l,t.. I l t hb Of tht3 rWrrdUt_T'S of the
A' ES: Cci;urdss:on::r Toe Carollo
Com-nissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
1 s1.i-ner (Rev.) Theodore P. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Terre
NOES: None.
Wheteupon the o:n^iss i,n, on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Gilson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
Ay „ ,;r ;::,., i :_ ,C' r. Joe Carol to
C;^umis�;ioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Cotnmiss:cncr (Rov.) Theodore R. Gibson
'J: ce-M.Yor Armando Lacasa
:•?:r r Maur e A. Ferre
N�,ES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS I7f, IG^7L'I'LD •-, DINANCE NG. 9125.
The City Attorn<-'.y rea-t the ordinance into the public record and announce'i
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and copies
were available to the public.
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44. FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 1, ORD.
8719 - NEW TRUST AND AGENCY FUND "TRADE FAIR OF THE
AMERICAS - EXPORT - 1981".
Mr. Plummer: I want a break down, 2.4 million dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, he's right, it is 959,540 and 1,556,900 of which, as you
know, since you've read the memorandum on it, the City of Miami is putting in
$200,000 each so what we're putting up is $400,000 not a million four.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but it doesn't state that.
Mayer Ferre: Yes, it does in the main - if you read the thing it's in there.
Mr. Plummer: You mean in the whereases?
Mr. Grassis: No, on pages 2 and 3, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my question also is where is the remaining money, is that
in the back up material where it's coming from?
Mayor Ferre: Where we always get it, it is from the federal government, the
state, the county and the people who come to the fair same as we always do it.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 8719,
ADOPTED OCTOBER 26, 1977, THE SUMMARY GRANT APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED; BY ESTABLISHING TWO NEW TRUST AND
AGENCY FUNDS ENTITLED: "TRADE FAIR OF THE AMERICAS -
IMPORT 1980" AND "TRADE FAIR OF THE AMERICAS - EXPORT 1981";
APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAID TRUST AND AGENCY
FUNDS IN THE AMOUNTS OF $959,540 AND $1,556,900 RESPECTIVELY;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE;
AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAME
ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS
OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Plummer
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter, dis-
pensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days by a vote
of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission, on motion of Commissioner Lacasa and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted.said ordinance by the following vote.
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED OF619ANCE NO. 9126.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and copies
were available to the public.
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45. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CREATE NEW OFFICE IN POLICE
DEPARTMENT "OFFICE: OF PROFESSIONAL COMPLIANCE".
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN URLINANCL CREATING A 14LW OFFICE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
POLICE, WIT.'i-4 THE OFFICE OF THE POLICE CHIEF, TO BE
KNOWN AS THE "OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL COMPLIANCE" (OPC);
PROVIDINS FOR Till, APPOINTMENT OF A DIRECTOR OF SAID
OFFICE BY THE :::TY 114NAGER AFTER SELECTION BY THE CHIEF
OF POLI('E, AND FOE THE APPOINTMENT OF THREE INVESTI-
GATORS, TG FE RECOMMENDED BY A SEVEN MEMBER ADVISORY
COMMITTTCF WhICH IS ALSO BEING ESTABLISHED BY THE TERN1F
OF THIS CY1 I;vANCr., ;,;.D FOR THE APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY
MANAGER OF•' -)NE ShCRE'TARY TO BE SELECTED BY SAID DIRECTOR;
PROVIDING FOR THE OPERATION OF THE OP(' AtiD PRESCRIBING
THE FUNCTIONS 4ND DUTIES THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABIITTY CLAUSE.
Passed on its tit`_ :eadirv; i, title at the meeting of June 2E, was
taken up for its a and tinal reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Coran issiot"er ; t,ic r, seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the Ordinance was
tneteupon y�ven its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote:
Aj'F.c': Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
C�mr,i:��ior.e. (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
THE ORDINANCE: WAS DE:;IGNATF.D ORDINANCE NO. 9127.
'the City Attornc- the ordinance into the public record and ar.nounced
cork s were dv i i 1,:.,': to the members of the City Commission and to the
4t. FIRST READING ' R^I'IANCE: RP'-LS ASLISH SOUTH FLORIDA BUILDING
CODE AS THE BUlLDING CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI.
M:. Lacasa: On Item 13, Mr. Grassie, you were supposed to call on the
buildin(; as3oc:iations so they could give us their input about this partic-
ular item.
Mr. Srassic•: What I have done is this, since you and I talked about
yesterday, Commissioner, I've asked Geri Salman to contact both the Lc -.Lin
and the Anglo building associations and he assured me that he would do
ti,at. He gave mc• his opinion that neither one of them have any provlems
W),n this.....
May.,r Ferre: There is a very simple way of doing it - excuse me, Mr.
Gr,ssic, to savo t.hr,e minutes of discussion - this is on First Reading
aril}•. Is there further discussion on this item on First Reading? It will
up on Second Reading in 30 days which means it will come up in September.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1, 2, 3, AND 4 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 6145, ADOPTED MARCH 19, 1958, AS AMENDED, WHICH ESTAB-
LISHED THE SOUTH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AS THE BUILDING CODE
OF MIAMI, BY PROVIDING THAT THE CURRENTLY EXISTING SOUTH
FLORIDA BUILDING CODE BE ADOPTED, TOGETHER WITH ANY AMEND-
MENTS THERETO AS SHALL HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ADOPTED by
THE DADE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND BY PROVIDING FOR THE ACCU-
RATE iiEFLEC'TION OF THE CURRENT DZSIGNATION OF THE CITY'S
"BUILDING OFFICIAL" CHARGED WITH ENFORCING THE PROVISIONS
OF SAID CODE; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVER -
ABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the city commission and to the public.
47. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE SUBJECT TO ELECTION
$45,000,000 SANITARY SEWER BONDS.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE, SUBJECT
TO THE ELECTION AS HEREIN PROVIDED, OF $45,000,000 SANIT-
ARY SEWER BONDS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVEMENTS AND EXTENSIONS
OF THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; PRO-
VIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY
UPON ITS PASSAGE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE READING OF THIS
ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN
FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner Plummer,
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of
reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following
vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and seconded by
Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9128.
The City Attorney read'the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis-
sion and to the public.
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48. FHERGENC'Y ORUI::A::Ct.. milti-R1ZE ISSUA14CE SUBJECT TO ELECTION
� 'j;,, 000, 000 STREET & HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
BONDS.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
Al, F.NFEk' Tt:C :!k! 'T::'\.NCE, AL1'ii0F.I::ItiC: THE ISSUANCE, SUBJECT TO
THE ELECTIC!,' Ad 1iiFl::t: `PCIVI'7F-D, OF ; G,000,0�)0 STREET AND
HIGHWAY IMPkOVEMTSN:bn!!P1 OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR
THE PURPOCP (Y,.' i OF STFZET At:') FFIGHI:�.Y IMPROVE-
MENTS IN 'Ili" CI;'Y (A- M1AMI; PRCVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE
SHALL (;C IVTO EFF'F:CT 'MXE:DTATELY UPON' ITS PASSAGE; AND DIS-
PENSING WITH i'HE READING OF' THIS ORDINANCE `)N TINC SEPARATE
DAYS BY A Vr_.t�' O} jCT LESS ThA'! FOF,R-FIF hi CF, THF'. COMMIS-
SION.
Was introduced by C.urru,,iss�Orlei ibsot, ar.� Se'GLlE i by raTmission(.,r Lacasa,
for adoption as an emtryen,.y roe sure ani dispensing with the requirement of
reading same on two sep3rat'"- days, w.,ici was agreeu to by the following
vote —
AYES: Joe Carol],)
Plurancr,
(Rev J Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mityor D:auri . A. Ferre
Whereupon tila, i,nnm:ssion on motion of Commissione: Gibson and seconded by
Commissioner Lacasa, adop,cd said :)r(:,nance by the following vote -
AYES: Joe Carollc
L . P 1 um:ne r , J r .
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vi.�e-Maycr Armando Lacas:
M: y Maurice t+. Ferre
NOFS: None.
c, l _ r !,D; NANCF WAF F' `)RD1NANCE Nv. 9129.
The City Attorney ro-id the orcii::lr,ce into the public record ar:d
an.: n-- . t-11at col:ies wr t - ti:e n Q:-lbers of the City Comr.iS-
si )r, a:, i to the n�,bl i c .
•i9. EP1EF�b'::'""� .�F';?::?+h 'i'. C',�L AND PROW' E FOR THU HOLDIh� OF A
Si i::.IAL f�oJD CLECT.,7)N C,-N OCT '9EF ", 19di.
S1`,G00,0(0 SA:ITARY S'-4ER BONDS.
AN ORDINANCE: ENTITLED -
AN EMER,::ENCY ORDINANCE: PRC'.VIDING FOR THE HOLDING OF A BOND
ELFr:'ION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 7, 1980,
WITii RF:SPECT TO THI• ISSUANCE OF $45,000,000 SANITARY SEWER.
bCNiDS ; F P.l l' 1 U1N ^.'}! AT THIS ORDI NANCF SHALL GO INTC EFFECT
1MM1iI,IA'I'1.L'i UPON "I": PA SA ;L; AND DTFI'ENSING WJTH THE READ-
ING OI' TFFI ,R"Di NANCF UN TWO `'EPARAIF. DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT
LESS 'I''.IAN F AUN-I'II'THF CF TIII? CO:•1'4ISFIuN.
Was intCQAU,:%:d by Cocruujss�_oner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Lacasa,
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of
reading same on two sop,jrate days, which was agreed to by the following
VUte-
AYFS: Coinrrat;f,ioner Joe Curollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commis,iouNr (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice-Mayov Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Lacasa, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9130.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis-
sion and to the public.
50. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: CALL AND PROVIDE FOR THE HOLDING OF
SPECIAL BOND ELECTION ON OCTOBER 7, 1980 $30,000,000 STREET
AND HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BONDS.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE HOLDING OF A
BOND ELECTION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER
7, 1980, WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF $30,000,000
STREET AND HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BONDS; PROVIDING THAT
THIS ORDINANCE SHALL GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON
ITS PASSAGE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE READING OF THIS
ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS
THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE COMMISSION.
was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Gibson,
for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement of
reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the following
vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by
Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9131.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commis-
sion and to the public.
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51. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: DEMOLITION OF UNSAFE
STRUCTURES DUF TO "CIVIL DISTURBANCES" IN MAY 1980.
Mr. Plummer: I've got a problem.
Mayor Ferre: This says denolish unsafe structures.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, and fine, and that's what we want but Mr. Mayor, this thing
dcesn't say where, what tarqet areas the mone:•s are coming from, this thing
doesn't say any of that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we're going to _-:art with Noc-a-tee.
Mr. Plummer: You woi,' + i:urt my feelings
RF.SPON; F) Well, that ':, the total City.
Mr. Fosmoen: Model Cities, Overtown
Is this just for Culmer? (INAUDIBLE
Mr. Cr:assie: Libr�rty ^i':y, overtown, Culmer.
Rev. Gibson: The intention is just that, J. L. We want to get rid of those
sores.
Mr. Plummer: Some way or another they determined the price of $247,000, now
that's got to be x-number of structures in Liberty City, x-number in Culmer...
Mayor Ferry-: Why don't ycu t,tn�•:ri .it tc say that the administration ..ill come
b..k with „ specific lit:'
Mr. Plummer: Well be 7ausu , you know, what about the building....
Mr. Grassie: We gave you a Epecific list three days after the disturbances
with all of the structures lister'..
Mayor Ferre: Three days?
Mr. Grassie: Yes, about three days after the disturbances we gave you a re-
port, it was about 30 pages.
Mayor Ferre: And those are the buildings, every one that's on that report is
going to be demolished, is that what you're telling us?
Mr. Grassie: That is the list of buildings from which we are going to do the
demolition.
Mayor Ferre: All of them, that's the list from which... all of them....
Mr. Grassie: No, we're not ,1()ing to do them all.
Nwy.z Ferre: 11alf of them, which ones?
Mr. Plummer: Se.., it is just too brief. Mr. Grassie, what about the areas,
for example, up around 731d Street and N.E. 3rd Avenue which have no target
area or. Community Development money? Are those areas now going to not be
considered? There were 3 burned out buildings up there, my next door neigh-
bor happened to be orie of them. He doesn't own the stracture but he happens
r' r,
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to be one of the things, the cabinet shop.
Mr. Grassie: If you wish, I can read a list of the buildings into the record
for you, we can give you this report....
Mayor Ferro: I don't think you have to read the list, I think what I would
like and perhaps what Plummer is saying is that of the list that you gave us
three days after you specifically ear mark for us at the next Commission Meet-
ing which are the ones that we're going to demolish so that it's in the record.
Mr. Grassie: I can tell you right now, there are 22 structures.
Mayor Ferre: All right, submit them into the record. I'll tell you what, if
Plummer will allow to save time will you submit the 22 structures to the Clerk
so they're a part of the record.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, I've got no problem.
Mayor Ferre: okay, with that as a stipulatior. Father Gibsor. moves and Lacasa
seconds with the amendment made by Plummer stipulated. Further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-546
A RESOLUTION AMENDING SECTION 2 OF RESOLUTION NO. 60-407,
ADOPTED JUNE 6, 1980, ENTITLED:
"A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZI.'!G THE CITY D%NAGER
TO DEMOLISH UNSAFE STRUCTURES AS A RESULT OF
THE MAY 17-19, 1980, CIVIL DISTURBANCES
WITHOUT ASSESSING THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE
DEMOLITION AND CLEARANCE COSTS, SAID DEMO-
LIiION BEING AUTHORIZED BY THE OWNERS O
SAID STRUCTURES AND ALL PARTIES INTERESTED
THEREIN; FURTHER REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO SOLICIT OFFERS FROM MINORITY CONTRACTORS
WHERE NECESSARY OR PROPER TO PERFORM SAID
DEMOLITION; ALLOCATING $247,000 OF 5TH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONTINGENCY FUNDS FOR
THE DEMOLITION PROGRAM."
BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPH TO SAID SECTION 2
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DEMOLITION CON-
TRACTS WITH CONTRACTORS WITHOUT FURTHER COMMISSION AP-
PROVAL DESPITE THE COST OF ANY SUCH CONTRACT EXCEEDING
$4,500.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
52. MISCELL.ANECUS CIS,."'SSIr'I1 I1VIS: PIXIVING 6 ZOItING AGENDA-JULY
BUDGET PRESE:N'iATION; DETEP11INATION OF MILLAGE; REPORT ON E.D.A.
GRANT; GOORBAY FESTIVAL; WRECKED AUTOS.
Mayor Ferre: Is there anytt.ing else to come up before this Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, 1'vo gc,t sore poc::et items.
Mr. Grassie: There are three items.
Mr. Plummer: You have Locket :t.ems also?
Mr. Grassie: No, we nave two information items for the City Commission to keep
you up to date.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Grassie: The first is, we have at your request set a Commission Meeting
for the 31st of July, that's your Rc-7ular Planning and Zoning Meeting.
Mayur Ferre: No, si.i, Plummer moves that there be no 33st meeting and
that alt tie done on . •. of the 24th.
Mx. Pluriricr: Eight. Mr. Mayor, just for edification, and I don't want to mis-
leacl anyone, Mr. Grassie, I have no problem with that meeting starting at 9 A.M.
M7 F ro bit-Im as far .is 9 A.M. meetings are over with. Now, for the rec-ord, I
wart to tell you that 11,er,-finally would like to continue the 1 F.M. meetings.
Rev. Gibson: No, J. L.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you're the only one that wants to do that.
Mi . Plur.mer. Well, F,,r_her, I'm speaking for one.
Ma . 1'^rre: It's not rce-ily working out because we've got to stay up here till
a'. times of the.... Ti.•,re' no question that these meetings that start at 1:00
we ..e ✓er en.. up eat i it r '_i:t+r. 1 , or 11 O' Clock at night.
Mr Plummer: Well, see, I ' -!c- got no nroblem with that.
Mr. Grassie: We're ring to have to ^heck two things, the advertising time tt,at
we need for the Planning and Zoning Meeting, let's assume that we could do that
by the 24th.
Mr. Plummer: Before sun uI
Mayor Ferre: You're assuminy that we can do it on the 24th in the evening,
richt?
Mr. Grassie: No, but I sai:i that we have to check the advertising requirement
for those items that appear on the Planning and Zoning Meeting. For the moment
we will assume that we can do that. The second question is that we w7..�-d to
present the budgr+t to you before you went on your August recess on July ?1st.
Now, if we're riot going to have a meeting that obviously causes a problem in
that regard.
M�iyt�r Ferre: See, t_ht• problem is that we're only going to have that I know of
4 riemt->ers of the Commission here and maybe we'rt only going to have 3. Now
how slid we establish the 31st anyway, did we vote on that?
Mr. Grassie: You asked that we not have a meeting - Planning and Zoning on
th evening of the same day that we h.d a Regular Meeting.
Mayur Ferre: Yes, but who chose the 31st? Did anybody check....
Mr. Grassie: We arbitrarily chose the 31st and we went around and asked each
one of your secretaries whether your calendars were free, the answer in all
five cases was yes anti we established the date on that basis.
Mayor Ferre: I'd like to know who you asked in my office, whoever did the
asking. There's no question you couldn't have asked Marie, that's for sure
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because Marie, when she saw it right &way and toga me "How did you :lave &
meeting on the 31st?" because I'm not going to be here.
Mr. Carollo: What kind of .meeting is :t going to be, the 31st, a full Com-
mission Meeting?
Mr. Grassie: A full Commission Meeting for Planning and Zoning, ;ust Planninc;
and Zoning items and the budget.
Mr. Carollo: That will be a morning meeting, is that correct?
Mr. Grassie: So, the Planning and Zoning items would be at 7 O'Clock, the
budget item would probably be at 4 O'Clock in the afternoon.
Mr. Carollo: There was also a memorandum in here concerning the letter that
you received from Commissioner Plummer. Is that a memorandum that you wart
to -discuss today or privately or how would you rather do that?
Mr. Grassie: No, just any reaction that anybody has, you know, you can give
me.
w,r. Plu.nmer: Well, Mr. Grassie, just for the record, I am leaving on the
morning of the 25th so that's for the record.
Mayor Ferre: And I would appreciate... Is Angela here still? Angela, dia
you ask the members of the Commission?
Mrs. Bellamy; No, I didn't.
Mr. Grassie: I think Lupe made the survey of all of the offices.
Mr. Plummer: Well, just for the record, Mr. Mayor, my office was contacted,
the date was open. Okay? But it was only asked....
Mayor Ferre: I know you did, you talked to Elena, and please tell Lupe not
to do that anymore. Zlena does not know, Elena does not make decisions in
my calendar. She is a scheduler but she is not the decision maker. Okay?
I'm the decision maker.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know really tnere ain't no 31.
Mayor Ferre: All right, where are we?
Mr. Grassie: well, if we're not going to have a meeting on the 31st I guess
probab�-y the best we can do is to get a millage decision from you on the 24th
then we are going to have to distribute the budget on the 31st. What we don't
like about that is that you're not going to be able to have a meeting about
it, you're not going to be able to have a presentation on it.
Mayor Ferre: See, the problem is with Plummer because he'll be leaving o:;
the 25th.
Mr. Carollo: Can't we do it before the 25th?
Mr. Grassie: Well, a partial budget can but not the complete document. we
can get you the millage implications.
Mr. Carollo: It can't wait until September?
Mayor Ferre: No, not by law. As a matter of fact the obligation is on us
not on him.
Mr. Grassie: We have to have a proposed millage rate by the first of August.
Now that is not necessarily binding on you, you can change your mind but you
do have to establish the millage rate.
Mr. Carollo: For the record, Mr. Grassie, just how much are you anticipating
that you would like to raise the millage rate?
Mr. Grassie: Well, of course, we are in the process of that calculation
right now, taking into consideration the most recent decision of the City
Commission with regard to the extra 150 positions in the Police Department.
In gross figures it would be three-quarters of a mill above that which is
allowed automatically by the State Legislature.
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Mayor Ferre: But there's another factor that you have to take at the same
time, Mr. Grassie, and I have to throw this in. We've got to decide whether
or not and what the garbage fee is going to be.
Mr. Grassie: Well, that's why it was so important that we have this kind of
a meeting.
Mayor Ferre: So the garbage fee, the only way you can assume a lower tax
millage is if you assume a higher garbage fee and since you can't assume that,
therefore, the millage that you're going to recommend on the 24th has to be
all tax and no garbage fee increase until we reverse that decision.
Mr. Grassie: Would it be reasonable to bring to you on the 24th alternatives
which consider how much millage can be offset by a certain amount of garbage
fee?
Mayor Ferre: That's what I'm trying to point out to you is that you have to
bring both things, not just one.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you know, Mr. Grassie, the last couple of. regular Commis-
sion Meetings that we've had you've gotten a little bit excited and I wanted
to finish today's meeting, I still do, without you getting excited and those
were my intentions, I mean that. But I just want you to know this is con-
structive criticism and I'm trying to word it for you as nicely as possible
so I won't get you all red in the face again but the problem that I see is
that we're taxing....
Mr. Grassie: You're doing marvelously, Commissioner, go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: I don't think he's doing well enough.
Mr. Carollo: We taxed the people of Miami really the fullest that we really
can and I would hate to talk about new taxes without really going into some
areas, and I'll give you some examples of the areas I mean - look into the
possibilities and maybe we just might have a few more salaries in that 30-
$40,000 range that maybe we don't need, we might even have several in the
12-$15,000 range that we could cut out somewhere. And I would prefer to look
at areas like that and try to save the City some money than having to raise
th" millage. For instance, maybe we're going to be forceful when people
comp asking for matching funds from the Commission or just plain funds for
whatever project they have going or activity, start cutting back a lot of
that. But I would personally prefer to find different alternatives than
going with a raise of the millage taxes. You know I think we're going to
run into some problems if we go that route.
Mr. Grassie: That's a reasonable approach, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: You know I'll be more than happy to take some time and sit
with you and maybe we can work something out.
Mr. Grassie: Unfortunately we really have to do it a little more formally
than that. What we're going to have to do is have working sessions of the
City Commission where we can get at least three of you to agree on whatever
those reductions are going to be.
Mr. Carollo: Well, the problem that I see, Mr. Grassie, correct me if " m
wrong, please, that to get this additional raise in the millage you need a
four -fifths vote otherwise it won't fly at all. Am I correct or not?
Mr. Grassie: That's correct.
Mr. Carollo: so if we don't have that then we have to try to work out some
other comprumises and this is what I'm trying to accomplish before we get
to the point that people start getting excited and red in the face and that
wort of thing.
Mr. Plummer: I'm waiting to see Howard Gary get red in the face.
Mr. Grassie: I remember several occasions, Commissioner, on which you have
gotten more than red in the face, as a matter of fact you've reduced yourself
to screaming. But, you know, aside from that....
Mr. Carollo: You see, Grassie, I try to be nice to you and you come back
getting nasty.
128 JUL 101980
Now
Mayor Ferro: Go ahead, iinis:l yc,�.r statemt:.
Mr. Grassie: Well, Xr. Caro:]: ..-ais::,.- is r,].er. Of
of a mi llage for the C-ty w,:ich
Mayor Ferre: And he knows it anti Plurr.cr r:r,ows ",t ant yG.:'la ,.:`.'E' tJ
face that when it comes _1,', a11c, t; Errs nc:'..;... > ..1 a-.
this Commission can da exc,e t tic, ..js
and if they become unroa or:abie WL ' .,:
Mr. Carollo: I'm tryinq to be reas(.,nab'-e, that's w,'.',, .'. ta:'iiikq L:�E r
have been.
Mayor Ferre: "ou :on' : w.int on-, t,x ir. rya c:, /o: know '.ha': rr.•t
to be imhossibl,- bt:(.au�,c there is w.;,, .._.t c'.: , 1 ,:u;.
s 'laries and 1v al,irle_ to pay :or i`.(, now policemen. �':� rc
you can come up wig:'. 2mill --on Ic.:lar:; a:-, LA :i1(: Aher thlr.c„ t: a,
to be dime acid, you .&now, C.'.'.. . ,t(j;l 1:.lty.r.tj tnC
(jet on with ..t. an.. We' l.i vote, you K-.:W i•_ '.+i ,,r.....
t::nr. we' 11 g_t u . w_ t:. --he
ple whether we incr,..a: e (:arbaqu. wf".sir..-
Let it rip. .>.. stet., 1 nave no ream,
lin(aS to have LCar anyw:lere in r:", nZ ke-u_: , n, t is k'_ .. Ci t'.::
S0 We.'i1 ]us: ruOV< a.rnq, we'11 .17 C`.r_ :Tu a:,. _...ef
resper -ible vott .,:..
Loo bad, if ,� sere' s nc,L
;L. ut that some GthQr ..fr1f . av : >'O ,
tL . Grassie: Only one ether rainy a := :.h<, . .s sir..I ly an
„z" you so that you w.i11 kL:cw wr,a_ :aa�,e%ina with ar. r:Di. �runr
thfrk you ::eed to be awa:'e of, th(: : act _;,ac we may be gettf.no
(-O) ldrs in vr:Yv ❑h,'`Tt Grder.
Mr. Llumner: Foi"
,.. 'r0S.x.oer,.
iu wn ..r an
dC,d a i�%`rk_ ,T-(... _. i rG ,_,,.... 3
du-" a ,C: Wt2 "r,rki nq I,;, L - 9t on .I,-.
.�c...-
;n'.aav _a:.d or. _ "1 .�..
mu'it pro(•ra:,t an,:- 1. l:: Ga_i e1<_' Stf(,--i _...:L. _.
110Ct bucks, we i Stlm+:`.:t: Wi: MaN.' :;f, dl::!1 _. :.L Jj'e ::'_JwarGs of ti G_
f,i is directed �t -Lsadvcnta3l--;, tlevel jobs 1,'ut m;
tnc. directe,1 ^ted
L— harl-.:ore •.'tic• ar"- 'v,:.: ,�1r.g aS U,_St wi: .ar. „ .. .....-
I ,'GCJrh,T, tc.yetrt:,r tc S'.a t .ai rinc,; pe.:,7; rc �y Konc.a- 1t may tar.u...
Lhey award O:: Saturday It may taxe a special meeting of this .,ft;f
next week co accept the grant.
Rev. Gibson: Lure.
Plumc:er: 1'vo .aut i,o proba.er...
�Z. -Cerullo: If oar rusponsible may a:;journ t:.e meeting 1 wcuk::
appreciate it.
Mayor Ferre: Plu.`a•ner had some Focket items.
Mx. Plummer: well, onviously it is late so I'll just bring t.;en ur. and I
still want answers. Mr. Grassie, I asxed about the Goombay Festival ar.d my
concarns, I asned yGh t0 come D;.c:k wl:: so:%thing in writing to allr-viiaG
trc: 'fears of both Fat:, 2 c-nd 1. 1 woulc like It at the earlli:St co.-xeience,
1 tc ink taib town _s Jeyond t::e r.iirtt wht : we mil:>t address the prf —:. t_m o.
_reet peddlers whc arc in with people who are i.,
stores who are operating a :,•usir.ess w. -Inout the bene:'its of what u utore
owner must do. .... NO, I'm Just bringing these up that I want answers on.
Well, do : have 20 seconds more? The of: r one, Mr. Grassie, that
me is the amount of totally wreckua a-tomobiles that are accumLllt:ng or. the
streets of our City and I'm ta:k rc- about vehicies th4t are not drivaa.Lle
that. are bein5 taken ar.d piaceI on tze -streets that are becorling a b•urde:.
to parking and proL:ens that -they are crea;:ing and I would like to see both
of these addressed.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Is mare anything else to core tier ,e
this Commission?
9
A D J O U R N M E N T:
There being no further business to come before the City
Commission, the Meeting was adjourned at 11:00 O'Clock P.M.
Mautice A. Fe4 to
M A Y O R
ATTEST:
R��atpph G. On ie
City Clerk
Matto Ninai
Assistant City Cler
130
JUL 101980
CITY OF nMAMI
DOCUMENT
M=TINO OATn:
July 10, 1980
INDEX,
ITEM M04
DOC UM OTENT IDIFICATION
COMMISSION
IIMICVAL
ODE HOe
0053
1
COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK REPORT
2
AMENDING SECTION 1,2,3, AND 4 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 6145
0054
3
REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 8725.
0055
4
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT WITH GREENLEAF-TELESCA PLANNERS -
ENGINEERS -ARCHITECTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
IN PROVIDING ARCHITECTRUAL/ENGINEERING SER-
VICES.
R-80-510
80-510
5
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND
EXECUTE TWO INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS
WITH TWO NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES FOR
THE PERIOD JULY 1, 1980 TO JUNE 30, 1981
R-80-515
80-515
6
CONDITIONALLY ALLOCATING $50,000 OF SIXTH
YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS
TO THE JOINT VENTURE OF LITTLE RIVER ASSOCIA-
TION/EDISON-BUENA VISTA LOCAL DEVELOPMENT CORP
R-80-517
80-517
7
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND
EXECUTE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS
WITH CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES
FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 PER YEAR
R-80-518
80-518
8
ACCEPTING THE BID OF P.N.M. CORPORATION IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $143,709, TOTAL BID OF
THE PROPOSAL, FOR EDISON-LITTLE RIVER COMMER-
CIAL CENTER C.D. BEAUTIFICATION -PHASE II
R-80-519
80-519
9
ACCEPTING THE EDWARD H. FRIEND AND COMPANY
STUDY ON FUNDING ALTERNATIVES DATED JANUARY
18, 1980
R-80-520
80-520
10
COMPLETELY WAIVING THE FEES INCURRED BY THE
MIDONG PRIMARY SCHOOL EXHIBITION TEAM OF KOREA
R-80-522
80-522
11
AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER
APPROVING WITH MODIFICATIONS, THE WATSON IS-
LAND DEVELOPMENT.
R-80-525
80-525
12
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A
GRANT APPLICATION TO THE BUREAU OF CRIMINAL
JUSTICE PLANNING AND ASSISTANCE, DIVISION OF
STATE PLANNING, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION
STATE OF FLORIDA
R-80-527
80-527
13
AUTHORIZING THE WAIVER OF TIME RESTRICTION FOR
THE SUMMER SPECIAL GOLF PACKAGE AT THE MIAMI
COUNTRY CLUB BY THE GOLF COURSE SUPERVISOR
WHEN REVENUES DECREASE IN AN AMOUNT OF 25% OR
MORE.
R-80-528
80-528
WiENT11
NDEX-
CONTINU--ED
- im DocumENT IDENTIFICATION 1 TinM 1 eonE Ho.
1
14 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO
A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR CONSUL-
TANT SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE ECONO-
MIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE LATIN QUARTER WITH THE
LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY R-80-529 80-529
15 AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF BEER IN THE ORANGE
BOWL STADIUM TO COMMENCE AT 12 NOON ON THOSE
SPECIAL OCCASIONS DURING THE CURRENT FOOTBALL
SEASON WHEN A GAME IS SCHSDULEO TO CMlMENCE
AT 1:00 P.M. R-80-530 80-530
11 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION CB
OF FLORIDA, INC. R-80-531 80-531
17 APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER'S ATTACHED REPORT
DATED MAY 23, 1980, WHEREIN HE PROPOSES TO
SELECT ARLYN ENDE TO BE COMMISSIONED AS THE
CITY'S ARTIST TO CREATE A TAPESTRY FOR THE
CITY'S LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER FACILI-
TY R-80-532 80-532
18 REAPPOINTING HINES BREDEN AS A MEMBER OF THE
CITY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD TO
SERVE FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 24, 1982 1 R-80-533 80-533
19 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INT A
LEASE AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY
FOR A PORTION OF BLOCK 95N, ACCORDING TO THE
PLAT THEREOF. R-80-534 80-534
20 ESTABLISHING THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMIS-
SION COVERING THE PROCEDURE FOR PERSONS WISH-
ING TO MAKE PERSONAL APPEARANCES DURING CITY
COMMISION MEETINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
HEREIN ATTACHED STANDARDS AND RULES R-80-535 80-535
21 ACCEPTING THE BID OF EILLIAMS PAVING CO. R-80-536 80-536
22 1 ACCEPTING THE BID OF F.J. SILLER AND COMPANY I R-80-537 80-537
23 APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF
A PROJECT CONTRACT RELATING TO THE HOUSING
PROJECTS IN THE CITY.OF MIAMI DESIGNATED
DADE 8-1 (WYNWOOD) AND DADE 8-11 (LITTLE
HAVANA). R-80-538 80-538
24 TRANSFERRING $43,000 OF SIXTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT GRANT FUNDS FROM THE DESIGN OF
ALLAPATTAH SHEET IMPROVEMENTS TO ALLAPATTAH
COMMUNITY ACTION, INC R-80-539 80-539
25 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INTERVIEW,
SELECT AND NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS WITH AT LEAST
TWO (2) INDEPENDENT APPRAISERS FOR THE PUR-
POSE OF COMPLYING WITH THE CONTRACT REQUIRE-
MENTS OF THE TURNKEY CONTRACT FOR THE CONVEN-
TION CENTER I R-80-540 80-540
0CU iENTmiNDEX_
CONTI-NUED
ION
IV NO.1 DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION ACTI
26 ACCEPTING THE BID OF SANDRON CORPORATION
27 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF ANAR CONSTRUC
TION CORPORATION
28 ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF MIRI CONSTRUC
TION, INC
29 DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE AC-
CEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COM-
PLETED CONSTRUCTION OF S.W. 22 STREET HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT -PHASE III IN S.W. 22 STREET HIGH-
WAY IMPROVEMENT -PHASE III DISTRICT H-4418
30 DIRECTING THE CITY CLER TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE
COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF FLAGLER STREET HIGH
WAY IMPROVEMENT
31 AMENDING SECTION 2 OF RESOLUTION NO. 80-407
R-80-541
R-80-542
R-80-543
R-80-544
R-80-545
R-80-546
RETNTEVA
COME No_
80-541
80-542
80-543
80-544
80-545
80-546