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sopeembai 15, 1980
OF MEETING HELD ON
(REGULAR)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY, HA
RALPH G., ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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CI CCU-ussIQi = tIA'�;I, f�1.�RIDA
illy, NO, (REGULAR) cal,f$, EC(' sLPTEMjnER 1.5, 1980I t
I ICEPAGENO,
sou,r� I av o,
1
REVIEW OF CONVENTION CENTER PAR;:ING GA;t.;Gt S AND
DISCUSSION OF REVISION OF ORD INANCE AFFECTING
PARKING CHARGES IN CITY DISCUSSION
1-22
2
DISCUSSION Ol NEW 1" Ttil. BG L
STADIUM -REQUEST 1 u'ROV:XENT Gl' EXI'STLLNG FACILITY M-80-623
22-24
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D'E'CL,,.X£': CITY OF AS OFFICIALLY A BiLINGL:A.i. CI;Y
STIPULAT::NG SPAN'LSh AS THE SECOND OF'r'IC:AL LANGUAGE' R•-20-624
25-35
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iv41'ID T iUNSIT STATION : RE.51 NTATION
35-37
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PRESENTATION -DOWN` OWN DEVELOPMLST AUTHORITY BUDGET-
APPROVAL OF Wa: ORD. 91.51
37-39
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t'I}t=:'; A;;D SECOND Rl"*ADING
APPROPRIATIONS FOR DGI+'NTG'v:N ui Vi;Li)i';:i:NT AUTHORITY
FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPT'EMBER 30, 1931 ORD, 9152
39-40
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li7.MNG k:i'UhT AND IN POLIGE
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'XON* 1TOR PROBL' CMS LNGOUNILRED W11"1 JUDICIAL
SYSTEM .`i-60-6[5
40-50
M-$U-626
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D1 I:(:T CITY CLIihK TO ADVERTISE VACANCY ON THE ZONING
ES'JAiii Ft-80-627
51-53,
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OF Cu;;SIDtii.a'iIi)\ 0'F i c:r: WAIVLii- i,!C;A CONTRA
EL CA,NCEX D'r:FLtRi AL
53-54
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DISCUSSION-CAIiLL T,V, LICBNSINu DISCUSSION
54-58
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PRESENTATIONS, PLAQUES AND SPLC:Ai, 17LAS PRF:SlN:ATION'S
59
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OliJl:k OF ,��i,.ONAi. .,,�ri,i'-..,�Shr.h CEN'iEK ,
I DISCUSSION AND DEI'E:MU., TO 14-60-n28
59-71
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CRAN'l GASi: CON i itllit"1NUN-b':li ANNUAL FiI5i'A.N iC
'.l hiTAGE WELIt; R-80-629
71-72
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APPROVE IN P'XINCIl'l.i.:-Si)U" t F LOR 711M I:MMENCY MEDICAL
SEhVICE'. COORDINATING COUNCIL F0.i ll\'ANCIAL
ASSISTANCE M-80-630
72-73
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{ C1"NT LIT'1'i.l: h'M"k ASSOCTATIO.N'
lsC. $50,000 Oc' CO,tvti.sITY l)LVl.L0llMl.NT YEAS '1-80-to1
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73
,
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SUPi''0it1' L.S. ; AV1N6,i 4.SD PROGhAM VOA CITY E`tPLOYE S M-80-6; 2
74-75
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VlhST hEAUING 001NANCIE-M1AM4 CITY 1;?A'I,OYI:ES
hl:TIRE+?:1:�':' SYti't'E;t-A[�`1TNla'iltAT ION OV SAID SYSTEM
TO ISL V"-'.S D IN' CITY COMIS$10N, ETC F'IRS7 BEADING
76-94
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hEAIL)itii; M.IAx1 CITY F;JtI'LOYI;I:S
iik,"AENT 1';.AN-AD` INI,,rAATION. OV SAID PLAN TO BE
VF:s I:n TN C:'►Z' u0X.MioS' li)N, l,,c, FIRST READING
96
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RS': AN ! s.,0 N? ilia}altiu 0R1) .NA.NC." ACCEPT
' FlNaINi; POLICY OF The CITY ORD, 9i53
97-98
')0
;!Q,000 r;i�?; i:�`\:'::�Ca:NCZ' 1'�11)�1'EDI:Ii:Vi, GIANT APPI.ICATIQ
;40,006 PRODUCTION PLAN FEASIBILITY GMNTA h-80-633
99-100
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SL&JECT "EpmbE-& 'No. PASE NO,
PERSONAI,
ADJUDICATION 61' C.D. F-jNDS 70 ',"'NW60D TARV-JE*. AlC'EA
J'L;C,�SSION
t i00-101
PERSO,'-AL A?' TAY-3t\i*":i'%(;"'
COLI'ECTIO',' FEE
D 16 C E: 10 N
0* -103
lIZ-,%3ONA'1.
A"T"
I sc s Io'."
103-106
PROU-N-ESS -IZ?1.1i\7 ON' COCON,ti':
iO TEE S*;AT,: OF $10,000
TO CLEAR T!"LE,
6 0 - 6 3
0 6 - 0 7
AN X*.-.'L,.1,.,.-,,
OF Cl'lY 600�5 FOLK 1`16CAL Yi;,A& cN!,1,N6
sml-'X�i:R 30, 1961
v, - zo cl - 0, S5
10 1 9
111.11iSION DANCE CO. ING."-AEi-'1.A!,,LD TO C11'Y
OF "Y niC vim.."'. OF
R-8 6 3 6
A??!*.V.-1ANCi: riANGE REGAt%D11Nc1 i?uKCiiAISE
O-c 62m) S-11, ET
AS CITY
h'OXeSENTATWE S6,;TH KOMEAN hOX1',SG C0NVt;RLNC1;
SECON.1) R-cMING OXO-,-;\A, CL.
VRESTILING BOARD, LTC.
4j on. 9154
3i CONS IDZitAT 10\.-:W,:GLARY AND 'r'.OB'oaY AI.Aky,
0 RD I N AN C, L
70 L,XON 7&LL !CES; CAXLO.; PA6r,1;r'Lj 1N.C.
ti
AND 'TOX LOCCIO
ON %S6X.QNG
SZ.A.50 AND AVA S."ABO
j D 1,
y MANA'JER TO AND
1.r(;167 C%)?WANY !'j KV UIN'DERGROLN) 'iACILITLS-XNNV.1
F�-;Y AREA
ACCE.f'T E.-VOR 14 RA010 3A.)L* STATIONS
4' 1�-60-04.`
F40M. JACi6ONVILLF
\117
.1 CIV., ONS
AP110INT I.A\',AWSA TO T41. 130AKD OV DIRX-40K.S
A'.', ilk) IN', LACASA TO T.hL
TRAD'4: ANJ AT A
Ml'.'),';:ON IN' S'6"AIN
A, CON" , ',,Ak-,' 1 V,
A 3 A X.,%N A
M 'i IN A TO M., A
116- 124
12 27
k I
134
PAGE A 3
cri
MIND,
(REGUIAR) sa cr OLJIITL�2ER
ilVSoLilf I cas �'io,
PA' E NO.
L
39
CONSENT AGENDA
138
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ACCUT COX2L.-:71,;) VC j """o*'-"-"N
COMPUTER POWU SEPPLY
N-80-647
1139
39.2
ACCEPI COITLZTED WO&K-P01 COR?OnATION FOn LI'_-'TLL ii"'%VANj:.
MINI -PARK
X-80-648
139
39.3
ACCEPT COMPLETED WOR& SVIRON COIUOIKATIGN r'Oit VIXRIC*,�
i1--60-649
139
39.4
\CCEPT C0XPl_r,fiT) 'p'O'X
DRAINAGL ETC-
1i-E'0-650
139
39.5
ACCZP'f CJYF-LA.'C:D
L UROV! busINUS AR.:,A
BID "D"
U-60-651
131)
39.6
± PROVIDE TGA ?UbLic hh%.'6."C ON
ti
GUVWX 1"Ll, AND THL OLY1,11PIA I-XULDING,
139
39.7
HLARENG ON
'iOR j'hE OF
39.6
DDUCT THE C10 CLINK TO ?1-31-TSi NOTIC',- VL01.1c
EURING FOR Ob,;ECT TON S-COMPUTED CONSTRl;C'lL'ION-
GOODWIN, INC.-AVALON SANITARY SEWER;ETC. r
X-60-u54
140
39.9
DlltrC'r CITY Ci,ERK TO VC-LILISh NOTICE OV PULP It I EA RIN. G
FOR•
CONTk\CTIN'G- CRESTWOOD SANITARY SEWER I*,"Uli(OVZXENT
DISTRICT, '�TC. f!l
R-60-655
140
I
1
40
WAIVE RENTAI, FEE VOR ORANCE JANUARY 17, 1961,
F`LORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY-"OizjkNGL BM71, MARA71iON.
M-80-656
140-141
41
DISCUSSION !TDI: ALCOHOLIC BEVUAGES AT HALLOWEEN
OBSERVANCE IN PLACOU PARK
DlbcoLSION
14 1*-
42
3 SMET Oi' A,Nl) VZECLE :l
-`S%INTLNANCZ I
R-80-657
144-145
1145
43
1'\-lVLRvlr.'.W STORY 1
0!U)l\,ANCE*. ySGRU.6'c i-'VNDS� TO COm.Y.VNICATIONS
MAINTENANCL
ORD. 9155
146
45
OX'XNANU.: DLLETL CON.VERENCr. UNI.'ER FROM
FUND
ORD, 9156
147
40
ORDINANCE: 10TABLISH PROJECT I.C.21-STRI"M
SWEEPER'')
ORD. &A
i 141-149
47
ORDLUNCE-COCON11 000. li'0.SM,'.SS AXLA DECORATIVE
PEDESTRIAN-SCALL i.iuii7TN(; lli\'0jLC'r
ORD, 915h
149-150
.48
ORDINANCE: 15C&EASL APPROPRIATION FOR RIVERVIEW
STUX b'rl'w'�.Ks
91:)9
150-151
i9
l-C).\ TNTALLATION OF ll"".LING
;
F ACIl.ITY-310,000 FULL TANKS 64 1300 NA190-11 , 2 1 1 ;1
STREW k
It" 9160
152-153
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W
OUR
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
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58
59
60
61
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60
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cgu z a`:A:4 :1,, off^ � PACE N0,
rtis��ia� 1t�,
ACCEPT FACILITY -ADDITIONAL rti::L TANKS ;
1300 N.W. 02T 1 STREET E •�~8v-6S'�
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0RDIL"ANCE: INCREA )S iTC,;: 1,,._. 1:C';1C:, U 5::i;`. 1..C1,
FEES FOR ZONING CE'RTI'r ICATiZ FU\ L'S : li N-'W GLT:.D�,tii; v'
R-EIiNSPECT10\, rTC. 9161
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t ORDINANCL. INCREASE i'::e: i, ADu
PLUI,'iING, BOILi R, "J.,i 0R, T::C . ORD, 9162
ORDM'"NU : APPROPRlrl': E A IGJST KA! SZD BY. INT 'RNA'l I0,;AL
FOLK FESTIVAL 1980 TO T u A ACCOUN': jORD. 9163
DEI:UFTtAL OF CO`S!X!i A:iG:;: ?RWOOSED GRDINANCE TO�
INCREASE FEES VOR CITY SWIM,II\G POOLS M-$0-6iy0
ORDINANCE: i:NCRFASi FEES AT CITY Of ,11:tiril 00Li' MC;'SES (CRD. 9164
DULRRAL OF CLAIM S'hT*2i4�,'-,,ENT5
Via) i EASEL kU�):�Tvi:i:l, �
(b) BETTY VON SEGG ERLN 1)ErFRRAL
CONTMUED CMI'LOYMENT OF LAWPLRM Or SPARIMI, SHI:VtN,
ROSEN, SIIA110 & HEINBRONNER—I,tGAL ANALYSIS IN AI?l,'A (1C
l'l,NS]ON SYSTEM STRUCTURING.
A-'ThOKIZh CITY XIANAGir; TO SIC,\ ACi�Ei::�:::�'f: -.UBLIC
HEALTH TRUST OF DADE COUNTY-COORDI;\ATION OF
E, ZEi GLNCY MU!Cr',�I. SERVICES R-80-66'
AUTHORIZING CITY MNAG'r:tZ TO EXECUTE: ACRr G,M NA IONA'L
FOOTBALL LEAGUE-MIAMI DOLPHINS PLAYOrF GAMES � R-50-663
AUTHORIZING DELIVERY 0: C::RTAIN SANITARY 51:1ve:R BONDS
OF 1977 IN PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $10,000 TO REPI.AC1: LOST z)
BONDS R-80-664
COCON1.", :.RO\!E Ii'�SIN4SS AREA SIDEWALK AND
STREET LIGdT ,IODTFICATLONS
ACCEPT BID -ADMINISTRATION BUILDING i'AXi;ING LOT F'LNCING
I
Di:'eLRR1L OT CONSIDERATION: BUD ACCEPTANCE -OF ICw
FURNITURE 110K SOLID WASTE: DEi'ART,',MNT
ACCE?T blD-PHO 0(;W\l'hIC 5L'P?L:ZL;h-C:4Y WIi E
ACC:EIPt 13Ii}-0,\a i.NT;::,i.L..I:,iCii G"PHIC COM;?UTB -
y MINAL AND ACCESSORILS
ACCI'.l'T BID R 1NTYNG OF 3,000 ANNUAL KEMITS FOR THL
POLICE DEPART1,11:itiP
1�1"•1�11+}' ('T'1'1' il;: All.\`:. r'i(0;; :,::"iiu�-•t):\:1i: r:titt f�:�1) Rc:l".L'::'
S[:;(Vli.l' [)ln1'itTi:'i ANO b'iRZCT CITY CLE;`R TO VO'R AI\ ':)
COPY OF KESOLUTION
DE:SIGMA t'.,ANN IN%, AND ;'tE'oIGN OF Tlx:) CONI` 7::Ni':Y i'i�icr\
Iit11.1>IN;;S A`.) .il:,YX(N6 11001. R.\��\':,'. _l;\S"'�ND :.'L'li.\♦
CAM. iW6 AS CHL%1104VN OF ThU SLGECT'ION
D i:SCI'`.iS iJN
R-£t0-ho5
Ui:1'tRRAI.
I
R-�SO-i,6o
R-8ll^6l5
I R-8u^c�c,5
i\-SO--669
153
154-
155-156
156-157
157-159
159—i6G
60-161
161 — 162
16'2
162
164
164-165
165-166
166-168
169-170
4.70
171
v
172
i�-b0-670
172
CITY' 7�S�raf5-RAF'IRIDA
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d , Not REGULAR SEPTEMBER 15, 1980 RESOLUTIay Nloo PAGE N01
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NAME LITTLE RIVER PARK" LITTLE RIVER COKMIERCE PARK" R-80-671
NA,%E LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK "JOSE MARTI RIVER'rRONT
?ARI." R-80-672
DEFERR.ai, OF AP"20INTIiL'NT; CITE' FG MIAMI OFFICE OF
PROCESSIONAL COMPLIANCE COVi!TTEi: DEFERRAL
APPOINT,fL\, T OF PERSON TO AFFIR,IV.ATIVE ACTION ADV.SORY
BOARD 6R-80-673
D};SIGNA';E DELEGATE TO 54TH ANNUAL CONVENTION OF FLORIDA9
I.1:AC,UE OF CITIES
i R-80-674
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGE'R To NEGOTIATE AGREEMIENT: COCON UT
GROVE BICYCLE CLUB INC. TOR "THE GREAT COCONUT GROVE
BICYCLE RACE
1R-80-675
DEFERIUL OF A?POINTMEXT : MEXBER OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REVIEW BOARD
DEFERRAL
CALL S PROVIDING FOR! SPECIAL ELECTION-
NOVE'HBER 4, 1980-PR0POi:cD CHARTER A.KEND.MEN'T
R-80-676.1
R-80-676.2
FOR�UILIZING RESOLUTION: NAMING CITY ADMINISTRATION
BUILDING THE "DON A. E,',CK,%N BUILDING"
R-80-677
RATIFYING, APPROV!, CONFI%,M AGREEMENT WITH LATIN
a'.liERICAN CHAIMBER OF CONXERCE-FOR FIRST HEMISPHERIC
CONGRESS OF LA'I ::,`t A.`,M1,. XAN CHAMBERS OF COERCE
R-80-678
RESOLUTION: ArJ UST CURRENT BUDGET AS A RESULT OF
BUDGET REVIE14 (CURRENT !.N'NUAL APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE)
ORD. 9165
CONDOLENCES TIJ FAIMILY Cl',,' THE LATE ROBERT wVVERFIELD
i R-80-679
URGE CIVIL AE:RONAXICS 10ruCi) TO DLSICNATE PAN AXERICAN
WORLD AIRWA':S TO PERFORl; AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE
BETWEEN U.S.A. AND CHINA
�R-80-680
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175-177
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179 - 18C
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181-182
182-185
186-187
187-188
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MINUTES OF R""G6,AP Mcc'i 1NG 01•
CI"iY COMMISSION Or MIAMI, FLOhiDA
On the i.5th day of Se,pter o t�r , 198C , Z 1-,u CCa;ryaission
of Miami, Florida met at itS rub ular c:Lating place in the
City Hall, 3500 Pan American'Drive, :iami, 'r'lorida in regu-
lar session.
The meeting was called to order a!; 9:10 O'Clo:a: A. M, by
:Mayor Maurice A. T'errc with the fol Lowi-,iL I L� ;,i,Deru of the
Commission found to be present:
is J f 7 ti S•
G i ul .S i Ar ,. + 1
iJ4. L l - i • 1 l /. � \ � '� „ •L �:I k / . N \/ 1. \t �. It •J N
ALSO PRESEl, i :
r".•l'..:.�la�.C� L. i J.SII:OI'./, C�,•t� ��.�/:v:jl.��
Go. o%Lj, e F. Kt.ox, C)tl.l A•tn`.L :11�:f
,t�a•t•tc/ H.i. ;.a•i , A.s•��.•5;:anx Ctiti;/ Ct' �fLr,
An invocation was delivured ;:;•, Xayo: 'e,-re who then
led those present in a p1edG4 at a .lczi.ance to the flag,.
A n,oei.on to approve -Lnu ininu us a f May ? 2, June 6 ar,6
June: 19r.;I was introducud by ''aycr l,acasa, seconded 'by
Conmi:is sioncr G:.bson an6 '�c', ; i d anu u_,.O,)tQ: A unaninlGus*,I '.
i , REV i �4V l'1'= CGNVEi i'i I GN CENTER PARKING GAnHGES AND
''�'' DISCUSSION OF REVISION OF CnDINAN�.E AFFECTING::, .
BARKING CHARGES IN CITY.
MK,yor Ferre: We're now on Item "A", Mr. Manager.
Mr. Fosmoen. Mr. Mayor and members oL the Commission, Mr. Grimm will give you
a background on this item.
Mr. Vince Grimm, Assistant City JlanaceL; ��:r.. Mayer and membari of the: Commis-
sion, as you know, :;ir4ce August 7th when wi: compl(:1.01 the suk;cessfui sale of
our revuiiuu bond is;suo we have all boon ',voL•n,`.r�g diligently to complete the
next step in our Convention Canter project which is to gat tha garago under-
way. The Ci:.y has a contract with Miami C(:,;::ei As.iociates to develop that
garagu and that cont:r.ict requires formal u'),proval of tho Com:,.%ission O:'. the
auvolupmQnt drawings and that's the pu; cosu of thia 1neVtLnCj today is to i)res-
ent the c;arage that w(: hope to build to you to gut your zoranal approval 5o we
can go ahoad. We also i4avv as a part of ti.,:: q i7ugu an alturn .t:e aC :,c::lllt that
:)"du oav:n,;s an:. Loan has bide;, CiUVa10ping and w(: to glVL? VnUm iili opt)or-
tunity uj also 'present to y011 what thoir peas aru. Y b,:liuve that Mr. Candull l
and Mr. Fine are going to rup::usQnt mi. 1taa CUnL'Ur f 660Clate6, Z don't .know who
i:; going to roprusent oade and it 1S "t your pleasuru as to which order y:Ju'd
like thc:;c pras ientations.
"Note: Conzui;!.ioner Jo,u Carollo entered the muQLir,g at �:20 o'clock.
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Mayor Ferre: I don't till ,k it makes any difcere:; :e r_:-1:..; , ._ you 'r;aria Lne
people who have these druwinrs up can bc,ir, unless - 16 :'Ir. Lipton here to-
day or somebody representing Mr. Lipton? Do you have any to doing
it this way?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No. e;e ara represented, Mr. our SiCic: is
represented with Mr. F'riedenberg of I. ;4. Pei •
Mayor Ferre: Okay, fine, we'll be happy to listen to you as s:Jon as this
presentation i�; over. Good r+lorniny to you, Mr. Fine.
i
MY. Martin tine: l:;ooci j%aorning. Mr. Mayor and Coxanis iior S, ' oL' thL Y4'cord,
my n%me is I•tilrtln Tine and Mlr. Stuart Simon illld I are ": c:r u i"iiami
Center.' Associazos. C:) the theory tacit brevity iS thc, QS.L(Encc of CjOod l lt:ading
We'Ci 11}:e LO with you the �O11G41inCj: $uver:! ruonths a(jo t:h.'s Cori-, 1iu-
sion entered into an agreenent with Mliaml Cunzer A:J.;JLJ a-1-ej to COn::truct a
ga'riige :)n redo property Owned by the City w'-1ich would bo usc;d in con;ji:nction
wlt the Convi:ntlon Cantor facile _iL: and hou!3c at least 145C) to 1L33 parking
5:'acos. That contract Was ezeGcu4 :, by the City i)ic.;+ciy','_x'
authorl::ation gr inited in a rQsoltltlon pa5SB6 l)y the City CU: Iii:il0n. .litre
is 3 1i,al{llitilil trice of y15,030,000 and th6rC Wa:; it rCCjUi;:eiat=nt tCur a h)0,1d tO
!D13 pGstad 'lJll).Cii has alreaC.1 b'.-en done. You also ruin' lrui. t,ir.t i G,l t. L;Ct iOn
.tart onGi.YUJO'L lot G rhea ytat OUt ill t uS importantly lr. t 1:"i l n ;aY,
the; CGntl:lentftl gent; of 0,(iicago, 111inois wf+icY, i:; .doing tnc rinancl;l,j :Gr
t i6 pro)t_--t rclCuiros the:: cG:wtructior, start. on Oct.obJ, r 1st o'L it will not
c:Dntiliu'� to fund this construction loan, Tile Lour„,iL iender, Xa:;s Xutuui re-
quires t:1at �.tt l;tart that Uat,� and : rOrl your own jJl L' iG li ttl points G: view a,;
a City the bond holders have an agrecIIIe tt With the C1ty �n rLt :ur1Drl(+t: ':O L'flU
AJiIC:S that r(;quiry tna'. It start by that Cate. "I'Lan, Cunter AGtC)i:1a:E ; lE
roady, will.lr,(3 Arid iiblti to procaQd with the Con.,;truction of, tllt.� on or ,'�Q—
tore: Octol)ul ist, it has its team or ar& ituct.ti hero u.ong wa.t:, 1'i3 C Oi1Sl:.t�
alit for the parking l:acelit'y. it i , hu're to .1!;k an opportu:iety to i+ave .+r.
Cand.t:ll:, and :'.Y. Worsham and ;1is alisoUiatus j)rC:Sunt it to you and b.,:aiCally
azkina fGa' you to autC,orl::e the. bianagt3Y to give it an order to proceod wl :r,
the ConStru,:tloll of this garage.
Mayor eurre: All right.
.Kr. Hilario Candella: My na ;a is H]lario Candella, I'm the architect for the
parking ija':ia jl fCUr t:ht? CanVt nt:i.G,1 Centel'. our task was to r1Uu;: the require-
ment; G: ti13 j�ro�,ritri, Lor thQ City wnicii H'er(4 L:i:ten ict'tly, and .1' 11 Ilur�;bu
them,: (1) to design a parking tlara5e capa:;t.(: of accoiaodating 1.950 cars,
(2) to dusign a parking rYlrtlq(s that could work with the people mover system,
the station for that loc.at:.ol, which h".,, to ue within the building and the
alignment of the People mover in its final ap,)rovud form, (3) to develop that
base in such a manner that it could receive: on air rights a 600,000 square
root d0v(:1oj)ment on 'top or ]t, (4) to be able to do this ar, a cost of no more
thai', ;15,000 dnd (5) v.o be ablo. to do it oil tir,'M so that wt3 C:ti'.11Ci hl?cy]i. to
solicit a pc( 1rlet 1)rior to October 1 so Chat we can begin con6tr=.L on October 1.
We have done so and I would like to tell you wherF1 we are on thu garage,
;nayor ;:Qrrtj: MY. CanCtullU, I'M SL;rrj', would YOU rUj)( dt ZhOae Ilvo points
again ono more:
,ir. %anduiiu: (i) Is to design a parking g,1r,:iCjj caj)ablu Of 14$0
(2) To ausigil it garage capabla- of rucoiviiiq a ?a:jJlrr Movcr Station,
wither. it anti the ilicjnmoilt of that People m,ovo. tract: within the
ap�Jrtavad
system w,,ich is final and unchtt.-4gaa. (3) 'd'o m:,kQ sure. that that rarago .is
Cap.ib':% of ;Ui)pGYt:Ln; :itructur Ally, mi (ii,ar.lci.l l;l, uloctric:,lly, in all rands
ot. systt:rts an air rights development oz apj)ro:.imrituly 600,000 squaro feat.
(,i) :'O CrC abet to do Lill:; at c't CUtlt: 4,40t:. tJ t:xcouti $15, 000, 000. 11) To .IV It
or, tern'. t:h.l. Wt: rt quirume nt%i or tho bol;ti 1:,aUt: ,111Ci wo c.k ,
t.it'.ar't QOrl:it.LtiCtiUn Ootoljur .l So wu can fir,Gh the (jarage by Febru"ry, 1962
LugQtilur wiLh the C:onvontion Contur.
Mayor i't'rrc O}:ay, qo shin(",
Mr. _,.::V11;1: I t1Ju:. ,ijC,. ,u ,.)VQ4: w11.,C U4:: IjUaJ..-, Wt.'rt= a:1a what our
curn5; w ru. :'lr. ;L, 1 W,lnt t:o w1clIn rv':ali the: location of the gdi:'.'agu, this
et; thL, ConvontlGn canto:: L lvcc., 1-9) rUnr;lr.tj tnrou,jn thQ property aliC: rill
{a'Ca<ji jit'opt:rtv pt ',n,; ail .n<. ;�trc:Q * dr,:: l::C r,Vt:n11t: Wht%rV t."1t4 01i DaIIa 3
i'fOte;l u.;t.,: to Du. Till:; C..,+wln,, :;art: .::,owe.; the :ie'C.e: i)lal+ connuctor bctwc:on
tilt_! Co11VUI1l iOn C-.:n1;v: pc,r a rur,11ir1 ; through irq a northerly direcl:ion under
nuath 1'-95 and into thu ),trki:ICI garago. " main qa;,l here wadi to C4.0.
buildincl that will work 'And will fit .into the: fabric of thu City today and
into thu fabric Qf aowntown ,;iami ill thu yoar'b to zomu, In othC worth , WQ
010 S E P -1 51°0�
know that downtcrm Miarni is going to go through a lot of cnangeo 'n tna next
10 years and we wanted to make sure that our building will work w-th the traf-
fic pattern as it stands now. 'In the Case of the by s i,L'.t .'' S rJolr,(j tG 1)L! a
lot of traffic change:: in the City, a lot of tra--. is il.. "I:C,'i:-i".=r,:.. It will
also have to work with that and in t;,:: , ong run�ju :la,inc, a:i the Dapont Plaza
area and the downtown area is iiaaroved it also has ,.o work wit'r. that. make
that commitment by Pakg;l,u tCl; th;ECjtnC;rcS3 andA.
egress points on the north liar: a�3 cAs On the south -,;lae 6C %i,at our design '
and Our structure woulr, not Cr( a'Ce W}ii'::SC_Vt_r any ar JtiG(r..Cr.t to ::,t duvolop-
ment of the area in t,lu 1'L'ture (1) (2; Thliit as Chut iut%1G' wDLjj chhange in
tale future we have equal portals or. ti,e north side and oi, `_ne :;Guth side and
that We will also WOr4 Well with the systuri, al Gana It, theAt ' s the
number onc. goal. Thu number two goal was to achieve a :;,:par ation iJr Vehicular
traffic coming in an:i out of the rjararle frcix, thu servi::e Cl .]C;j; Co;aincj in and
out of thu garage - to m-- and to tric tea,nl thi,. was very oa're
going to have cl t cmun,..o is r1U, OLI: Off CvT.in(j in uncG out of th1:5 trcmend-
oui, building ana you'rc coing to have the pcitc-ntial o: survic(: trucks
interierin�; with tYi,t�1.0 i1CCeFi�. Iici huV� _)rovi,llld civar Luj)Li:ation of the
two systems so the t a, L4.1O:ie gkIU:i CS of C onvurition Cu;itur 4/no nigh-,: be com-
ing Oil a very tight pe.,:iod of tirGe in and OUt Of ti,t. (jlruCjL' 'es:' ! , dO it With
ease . Our next t".ost i.,'tiportant (jowl WL S �.:e tir,)1 E: L' l.Jr, G: ii �JL ii S ='hail d(1VL1lop-
merit. It Was vt:r'f ir,ly)A'L'tilnL to us thi.t we Orc;z-. --Ct this`: LjrC,ui-,,d .,)or dt ve iop-
ment because afte:rall '..i:at'z Wi,ut trig City atruct i5 all ..:bout thy' �,'roL'u,`,i:lon
of that city's eag:. Ana ag,air., wL` nuvio "'Or:e so :.;a thusU !'Snow Wit,",
the; developi-aunt i,i L',iat (jciracje o1: an hrca;ae , a p oplu aL 1: : t:,al. Wlil a-0w
the Penotr.at.-or, throug"-. :.hc! building an-1 will allow the the
Convention Cer,tur back to thu of 'Cn,: arc.%, tlQ C1O',l::LGWii tali' :,1
business district. The nu-xt goal Was t}a Credtl.Gn 0.- retail .51.aCL j 0,, t:Ilu
ground floor according 'Go thu prograr„ to a,jain invite' L,rt C.t!I' activity, tqe
wanted the building to ':unction well !)',It also to i:hj dr, 1ilVe 4::ililntj, In
terms of meeting till rQCj"li.-oment.,, of th,. Xcivlr, I-" t+aL; very important
working with the People Mover scLtff t'lay. ti.4 station wcis e,.,.:i.ly b un (1), that
it Wilt; Qasi.ly rclarhu6 Within thu bUllding ana that we dice not �--hanrje t'hL:
;luiit of thu tt-ack as it :'}'lows rl'jht nui'ti 1!: tr,u =del. WO fUCtl the WiAy W,:
hdvo loQkod at it 1s that; iinStu iLi or being a peobiu , 1 th n:: this is is (yri AL
opportunity fnr Miami and ci get:ail: O.)i�OYCUtlity q thy Ctt:i(;in ttilll:. T think
that we havo a responsibility here to show tO otCiur fl%iture duvo!opmQnLs in the
City that buildl.ngs anu Pu:oplc: mc,v tes and traffic modab can all livu together
Well it you L %kul care of them c irefully. And in addition, to t1i,t I think we
will be able to Lu a prototype for other cities in the country a:; well. vie
h,-Avo done :;o Lhrouq'll the garaqu, we have: been abl, to go through this king
of a ztruct'ur:tl Liysteims and we went a btul: further as it 6 lows, in the model
and instuad of sort of ,',idj,ng the ulirru;,utlt of the Puoplut Mover, was think that
the gars:ga car. Cc:1uY ra',U the OpJiartunit;1 ju; t to see basically one: car moving
throur,;a the building bac;ioally once: L:vrjry r,u.nute. I thine: that is going to
b,;; fantasr..l(;, It is going to make the building vary dynamic. Thu other goal
which we though Wa!:i uxtrurauly :.,llportant twaci to make sums that thu accuLs from
that People Mover aruj by bleva-:ors and eucalatorti works wit,-, the arc4di: that
connected to the Convention Center and with the: lobby from the: barabe that led
to the tower itUL-1 f. We have provided unour_.h ,j.evators, 6 elevators that
would taku you through tnu garage from any floor of the garage down to tirade
or up to the top of thu gara,-.v which i.s; the) bus or, which air rights w4.11 be
develoj)4d. Thesu are fast 6peied elevator., and cpocific elevator analysis, Was
dons: as it shows on that board and it shows yc,u that t'hatt those' are: 800 feet
per minute elevator:, and there: are six of their and it shown that we can move
officiently in 16 ;,eron(a;; whit''. is what a ;°lest cla�o building should .:,im for
in terms of vQi-tical, trutnsportation. NOW Jar task Was alao to show that you
could buila a garage like that and put viany towurs on top. We had to demon-
utrate: as part of our contractual obligations; that this: building was capable
of re Cu.lving a GOO, 000 square coot tower on top. Wu chose one tower or one
pos.'Jl,lt: du:s:gn to Uumonstl',lt it to YOU ant. to durnonstr.otu it a7 per our
contractual acruumQnt. At this point wu 'lave, thuruforo, devejopC:d a tower
that r.iaes up to approx:.mltuly 500 tuut that contains Las;ically 600,Oc�v square:
feet of approximately 22,000 square feet par floc« ana that does; so in a very
officiunt and UIUScInL m4nnc r. Zrust this deaioiaitration touter, One'.' of 1ja—,-,y, WO
havi: dusigned .in such a manner, Wu have conto.,q)latQd it in such a manner that
It C',1n C:6,'Rt oLIL Of LhC; Cjroun4 i:,lu scar into this Zi%y iiutL..ily Cr p:a4iny a very
handsome profilu into the :;ky.lina of the City of :Miami, a l:rofilu >~hat. has
been raoldod Very carefully 'Ind ir, turma of this, tow:.`:', whwn Vou think of the:
rear- esstatu in ..ni s locztion yot: r<:.ylly L:'link tnat a tower wants
to do r,"ny thine s. Thi-- ;.;;.wLr Wa;ltS tU relate (jUvyrap ICally, cilin}{irtg that
the tower is here toward:, the river ana thu ,Vy slid it: want:; to make: a ge:;ture
to that view but it You easily take that too f,;r you :,ru really putting your
back towards thu City and our ca,:aarn is that City ana that City alive ana
very active and it is vary important that it be oriented towards the bay, that
You at. this same tine do net Lunn your back On t:tu City ants, you pay re specs to
8 E r 151980 ,
tile CiLy's activif:y. '07 C t 17
into two Gpposincj :L.. A— a i A.
in rt.,spect, is vienq -Lna
tunity to the City cor,.: v.':'_'.t 1ClC),;_. .:G Jy :u.aC:,.y,1' .c ,j::tiu:ii: ...- 1. 00-` a 5
It shows in and c—' -,:1ljbL- cvur .)V V(_i:Y tile
materials which all LQ V�:Zvy
I WOI-rS.LnCj VGIL"/ Careful-
ly with 6iffurent uf whu�:ccl� rar, 1
1 .1 ng !;y!,i-
tem, within till: i�ar,,,a _L.i11*G�-1",','1'101'.1'C- Zi-AL, )`Ail.'_�A�.nc.j YOU Cal -I rjo
from ahsol.UtCl' r"laz- to VL---'/ ellu(janz
and exc i"L incj i dcir
P 'On -
stration ILOW-�,r %qU "D CA -,,,A- A.dinci, around
A,
the gai-ak3e that, :.C) be AU-v,1CPUC" :into a of a
baziic 1;:juare g...—d C'Calo"int it a"id
the mokiel, if YCU Z.j coj-n- QlcjEe tn, it yc,,: wcj'alt:�, c]ec t*[-,,u r.joie'l that
'find of a grid. Th_tz x)i:,roximatuly 4 c.11ows _l, -Lo fLAce a
Situation t'n'At t1ne.CQ LArL: ParL, Of t'lt3 htu absol-
"Itely solid P0C:%:iU1,u ucaaS w 1101:0 YOU ac., not wont zo 1;-,efU ark.,
p,irt�, of th(., garago t.-jt shouid bi,- inzo the
P(_'Uple CCV(:r st,tt-:Lorl Anc3 vi-AZIL you C.:Ijj 2_GV1QU C1'C1rCA'jU C, iA;l Oi.)Un .iir C,-aA.
acja - naturaily ve"'till-atud (j,.Izraqe, not opun aiai, ".1 k,Or1:y, 1'V'1Zu_-4,.LAy
.1b in (jari;1gur'. Thuref,�re, t;,.-A.s :.a not itgara(u,, tiila
uic,ntally zensitivC cJiu A. --,
Ljo throujh tranupa�'unt.*y ci.,LliI6 Wit*.-iir. rul jr.L Ci 7)*Li c-in
Which w (:) u 1 d r an g o in s 1n a d, -.. , do » W a j to :L C, Cj 'u r 0;-,, c, v Y t v i in S -
pz,rc;nt to sur .14 --Lransparunt
V L, iC,
1.1'nuc a;: cl way
provLd.ing thu�
cz*cwn of the . lalrcj ti Wul., L'hc: �),D:nz
�:j:ound t'nij two al*G,Icilt:o VNC, ;0i,'-Q
,;"LrQQ,L; aj-'a an i nU
a,_! n t f u r t."-& ti,i- tllld`f -* trig It= Citl:i'.:+:iij Zr" taCli aCju CA""a W C0 10 a 1'. u C!
az i.. si"C)'A's lnol*'.: A."'i
Wii1C.. wou.Ci ozo wo-"I.C, LU-�
'A. 'I; %N':L -6 "'OW IntO
I:Ak: ,,Z&'ja(jC jCo t.riiLt is Will 11011; i)-LA LAI'k W:,
t w i J. I bc 1 1 1M,() z ;a7 It
'u yo,.:
hav(- a So ft- (j I (:)w w:v:;,
J Cll:lj V1. YC'U' 11 i1i.1 Vl_,
r. IL Cj., ow C;c"x.;.i,':j CAUL Q Z t'rl-A !)'111�. '.Ci'l 171�, n CQ C) f
ti.IaL ;rid, a0li-I WOU`LCj :10 ii'k '7(_.CA1nl1jZJ5 Cite k�'LASS
pInr1:1.0116 ;.n uu.Utiv Cu.7 a;1 oxzrcm(:-Iy -,iC3hlv
Qon'i. thij-,'N, Lo: cur lirua, but
ic, zA (.Iu-lut rv::*4.ec.-.1v(., wh.Lc:',-, indui�zr,/ .,,aS r,*,,;Cl(_, iVailablo to us. Basically,
t'.iis is tht.: outlint., 1jdVCAgv in tu--.ra; of pl:inciplu ar16 in tQrmzi of Philos-
ophy t h i c 1`,a t it wo u.11 c! 4c. app ro Ip f 1 11 t I f '-q ti' ilu -'l 1' v e S hO rt 17 from George
D 1%::ad you through the specifics in
',�Vl ill -DU-, L,-,n.;U_tant, Who would
zor-mS oL slopes und raaip�;
M.,YGr Fa:rt;!: All Yi j,it, n)w Mx. CandQlla, tlniu is an important
the oizv to WU - 11.;Cj i-i"vu " very lrGnc,; agunda so
1 WOU!", bk: M06t is We WO1,11d MOVQ rathCl. CjUiCkly ilow.
N L
N
Detr,:):� t, 4141ohii- my nxrst riar-
.ion %I a Co r, S,,l :. t Zu I L L, ��- L; !� .,
A. i1% something ovur 800 gar -
in. 11.7)34. 3- nce n 1: t jru I I ve 1)ucn An
ct qLt, thi- C,,,,jada and 1 zall you i-.ow many
parki;v , : :;pauu:; amcju.-.ts vr, bl.t it.- a o-_" a lot:. In taunOf mov-
ig .Ilong, let illo 1'ry and ivad you iL� nc.)*.,. tin e,�ISY Ljara(jL-
to p-att' is of that: majn_Uu6e ;n to!) of it obv1Ouillv mu'llit
SQMU Vvr.y caroful coordination, ycJu I ve alrQddy sQQ11 the sita..
Zi,,&YG:* F�:4-:Q; 7o.!S, J*.hl:".. W,,.., 'i wont down there and lookc�dl,
L,,,ure out: whcry the A,%L`1 w',-jUj'U t*'1U ok4y, that WE,i MISSI,-G
L,., A .,* rig . Okay
Xr. Doviln; Stltrt_,r,,� then fi:ox, noith oic.up a one wc.v 5troct,
huru, ux2.T. tat.,re, 1`0�tQ,
�ya Wu d1c;n" h.1vu, -Iny traffic. coma in driving on tile right allu enter
here and turn out tnu.,:v.
Mayor Ferro; Ti%ct dead
Mr. Duvl in; This service drive;, 'Li I un;-.;�r;3tNn., '; _,Q
this point.
it, — _,; no: con*clnuo !Deyonci
JL�
Ll
4
Mr. Plummer: Excuse: me, sir, I've got a problem. You'r:i tile CQ1;i9hEsr of
the garage, sir?
Mr. Devlin: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And you don't krvow here the service,' ra:;,i unc:.; ,.,nd begins?
Mayor F'erre: Well, he said it dead ends there.
Mr. Plummer: That's definite?
Mr. Devlin: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood you.
Mr. Devlin: so, thejo ramps Come Up hu'ru, tho:;v arc L. s'_c..a!�y to (jf_.`_ 'up Over
the truck dock. T"neb,; rc:rrd)S a;:e only to rise above L*,,,.i:rliCt: ���c}. , uric: LYUck6
Como in nerd, drop dow.: :;lifj ht1V, t'.i:EV have IG:r.c31ri'cI'i :GG;'„ ;ie :;C, ti 10ve1
is her(9, they puck into that, the
the garacv. eievatort; are: nLrt3, t',,: pa5:;3g': -via% COwn t,-,u C(; ,vU,:'_1G:: CC'.nter
or corridor comus thrGl2 jll hertz, Lt%!:i IS 'ri L'ai.!i CG:-:; .rcia .. T;i_ V:X'iiuJd Cli;vators
up to the tower Plaza levol arc:; '.,ere. 2h.i:: i
believe that covmc:rs pre'�ty much thu first floor, If wo :,vu:" h, Yu, and 1
must say that- thusu dr,:win(js were yrC:i.Yeu CIU1tc: .:Otis tl;Ju .CjG bC:O't_ Sr''. iliac:
worked ou'c details so they're ;yore diarramati,, the„ they ar, in final rcaail.
Here it shows the extt.-n :ilon of those t'wc:j ram7s. iiiiS onu cO:,us U'J to h r,:: -nd
the one dow'il here col',ios up to there. At thi-,, point t„o gara- e lt; a Gl1t.r,u,i1'f
sloped twin helix design. We found that particularly What we call the.;-
ient, the visitor typ(.: �,,.:r6on who ha::; not bu.-i", d, rjazact rC':.:u::' :✓ � "t, e Y: a
Continuouj Slop.Lng pattuvil, ! iQarch })uttern that: i s a11UGo buAf"dirLG:ing, -,.hat
they don't have to duc'.di! whethor the:V'i:u goi,:(j to qa-c Gil on Lilo 'tom lr:i f.1OOr
or the sixth floor, t.ni ;y juGL follow their ao:;c and ?uup on ,joing,
Mayor Ferre: Excuse Chu i;i'.:erruptiort, but T wanted to a:;}: 111r. Candulla.
that :similar in desigh '.:o the. ulle at Onni?
Mr. Candella; No, thi:; cjarage, if I can Over-slmpliiy it, is really twO plates
ii;tu this out as xny han&i; show.
Mayor Forru: Lut it _L continuous glow, you drive -up looking for a parking
space and then you come ("cwn looking for a park-ing space?
Mr. Candeila: Yes, LXi.Uj,t t'hxtt YOU hilVC Chi: ,itQrnative in every floor to
Change from one: yjlc;t:: i.'u A .)zli ur. T its i9 a very unique: arrangume:lr., t.hi9 is
what you will call t;,u proyre4�sivu dusign in park.i.ng garage; where (1) you
have all the alternatives presunt and (2) you're not working with steep ramps.
You only have a lu+t ramp to get in and once you're there you go with the mini-
mum slopes whi(.h is 5% is straight shots.
Mayor Ferre. Okay, kx u't no, it isn't like Omni because in Oran_ y.0 ,Llways have
two ways and in this thing you alwaya have a :,:,e wily, you don't have '.arS cota-
ing and crossing. Ot:itr than that the sLmila, ity is that you hdvu the slope.
Okay.
!-tr. Devlin: if you hollow this pattern thus, 4'e' ll call one all A circuit land
the other the E circuit, They have the: ability of interchange frox, one to t::e
other at every floor at this point. But basically, a person enter.in,.; from the
south hero would COmc: into this pattern and would follow around a;,d arouncl like
that. One unique rc:aturo, however, is taxi: the down circuit ales; right along-
side of the up circuit so that at all timu;, you can seu whether theft, it; art
empty sj).ico on th; down - ;And thl;; i::, whero thi:; is a ai.cj .uljprov.:::w' nt
over whit is Cox.,.ion.ey c,.;.lort ::Cl:iuCir ,7u:ugt;, just with two 'IIiodula.;i ,;tilt: c/OU
cross Over in the widdlu and you nuvdr know when to cross over.
Mayor F'err.e: Yes, so yc�u can actually look over and :tee if there is a Space
as you drive: on the oth,Ir lane. Okay.
Mr. Cdnd� lla: ACLUally, the mOaL similar garage to tn' s would bQ the Off -
Street Parking Garage, new garage:, Garage #t5, the one that is now under con-
struction.
Mr. Devlin: Going over to hurt:: t,hows it a little nioro and let's say you are
coming up on this circuit, the: ono goes rightfhand and the other goes left
hand, that's to avoid sorr,Q cross trdi-fic. But as you are going up or, this
one you can see o%,Qr on that on%, you Could turn arouna On the: Und, CoAlL,
back, if somebody got the ju:aP oilyou you merely turn around here a;ain and
SE
I-,,. rd,
you're back in the flow anu for that rt::a6on wi-,
garage: is extremely inturL.sting and ve.,:�, I:,-, people Who
don't understand the wholta thinS. A-nd wj-. have �C)I:Lcy,;,;d �Lor&zry of the
stalls in this garage are in accordance: wLth used and
other cities have used, they've been u-,x�,at66 1 don't t-nLin"K they've
been updated since 1975 when cars were ab,uut as big, a-,; t`,uYlve ovc-1: been, Since
then the leqth of cars, of so-called full-size: ruciuc._-d by approx-
imately a foot and a half. All our turnint,j -iu-,t4on5 aru cjj,*,,,nc:ter or
dcr
greater. The slope oil the floors is ap-oro-fima-�:!Y 5�-, v"111c Iz - Ld
very acceptable. 1 believe that goes a ju iC 6 'L f.J n Oa tilt= Cj a 'CCACj Q
Mayor Furre: Thank you very much. All fight, MX. Cal-idU11U.
Mr. Candella: At !_Ali5 tilu on!.,/ otnui: tlilac. 1 wa n -,: t 0 make i 5 that
we had taker, all of thc'Lt ulvrav;lts 117,Z0 out,-i
our rcvis,i-c crawiligs, wc,'-
Q in WJrking drawing'3taqe and We're ready to solicit
the permit October 1, prior to octcner 1 i should say.
mayor Ferro: All right, an7thinr, (.,!,,e*.'I if not, tj-,a,lk %%)u very ,.iuch :or ;,our
pi:L,entzation uric now Wu' .11 laoar rrom next Wrulc, YOU take
these d1'awinc3� ciown? Good morning to You, VX. LiPt011-
1. i
Mr. -_)nald IAO)ton: Good J-_) 1: r, 1', J�, Ror,aJlr_j o' v ncis
Lo an . :'ne c:Onot..I)� in thu Wor.'d Ti�-,.,Qe Ct;nte: W,.., 'i
by "'Ine 1.?._ Poi ii-nr_ anon wu ai%tufud thL. piczzurt2, the s'z: G4 t,
bu thu sco..-ic o-I C."ric pro(:,ram was irC;rQ,i:5ed .0 r,tnle
nI.; 4 - 0 %A, C to
a (3arogc. w*r,iCIk Wl LI accoi:,O"otc IL" L
tro6uctj `irsHr t aold FrQ&.11bu tric,
-1 Is
In,, to t!Qt: Ills '313pla" .5 0LIL, The arcni7:t--ctural proble--,�.,a'CwL.:
is w"-,etncr -c.he cjaracJe ig 6(:,iigne�l Lo tric tower 0: t-hu towt:r is
o,IsiCji--iCIG ':Q acco'lociatc., -,'hu cjarayiS. in thii; case, this 16 thu WL;
-.-nd t'i-IQ g,,rage has been c'c-sicjnr_-ca so that both can wc.,rX. Lffic-
i1111 now turn it over to FiilTJi.i who W-ill, make 'niz
;�(-J of sZartud t*,'iis Pro-ucz. in rci)ruary in asscciation
with the ar.6 .%*,r. canaolla u:,ciai:t-..,'.-.'ing t'nc (Ac-sign of a world
..nd zcir i;,:-w the: is a Large One
Will. Co."-_aln ovL2r :A million an,a olu"rtur
L! Ut 0 r C: I Q n and a qu iA r -c- G r :square I Q Q t - T'nu cost will be
%:)5,000,006. Tne; progi:X is a CQMPIIX Orlic ir-ClUdIrlc, ZI garage, a
ofIcu tower, rotail irk thu 9rouriQ' floor:, a major DEM station, the World
Trade CcintC!r Bervict- CM,'! traii1ing and clull facilities and a roof -top I)ark On
top of the guragv.. i-lorhaps really the foremost Challenge in the d0VclQPMart Of
the project has bider, to develop it as an effectively design prograni-
zAt- i4ca 1 ly, strucz Ural ly, mechanically, the circulation in terms of where you come
into the building, where YOU get off the elevators at the podium level, where
you gut oi.;*,*. of tilt: elevators on the ot"ficu floor as well as aesthetically.
As Mr. *,',ipton just mentioned, you really cannot aevelop this as a woll planned
quraq,., at thic exp�-Inie U--' a ood ot:fict. Lowt::,. or A ilol:r4ly pLinnod office tower,
good loase space, core: in thc, ric,.%t space at iaxpanse of a Well designed,
uf:'j.cioin: so thc, nocas c.,f each of t1',Q.2Q have had to bo recog-
rized arx, 'rOU"ht toguther cis one buildin�j, i:; on,:: piece or c"oth :),Dth funC.'x:-
any., austhezlc"Ily. IZE I can lust' c",j a moment to tht, char -
of Cnu towor itsulf and the garage structure, architucturally rathor
duscribQd : uuppostj As a bUia.dinq Vr.ich has a bottom And a top, a front
and bzAci%, . Tho curved facadu ro;,ponds to thQ of th-%-- war-orfront, yo"I
c a n sue the: site! hors Arid the bay there, as well _ii the o>:tt,,nt of the downtown
cl-istrict. Also, that curvi., I rn.icjht point out develops a lot of
I)LIx*IV;ULA!,- onJI It i2 (.lWlly5 de.-.irabl4 to h.:ivu more offices on tront of the
b ". 4. 1 CI: L.-, q -,'r t'A r, t h (-., 1, a C k - -11L :.lack of thu building is sliceL.l, as you will not-
icu, which t,.irr,s thaw back iiito a front oriQr.r-ed toward the retail district
c,": c.oWnt.own MiLu%. but it ju j.riLL-.1:Q6LiJ-Ig, this buildincj is kind Of: a Pivotable
J.)GiriL. buLwuort the rota)-1 hear:: of the City and the commercial art:_ -a of the City.
T*iiat. :;Iice tAl!;o t.re.Ate:tri J)Pun you can soo that at the, 1.1,450 he',-e, sort
of I Welcomu. fjulic in thu ri.-rrow strut;:,,: and :i.,Ldcwal` fabric o the City
-)y the garage, p.:irk-
Miaitd iliv bottom Ot tnQ building, the base is formed ).
0 n top anti jomQ 23,000 square feQ-,: of retail. s)?,Acu excluding the link to the
convolit.ion Cortor orrJarIi:*.C.!d around an Open air arcade that cannocr_l; Second
Struct aL it continue,., into the downtown corarx.rcial iirQa, First Avenue and the
access tO the puople Iijover -,y.,jtcjm, I feel that the arcade is vary much in the
fl,AVOr Of 14iAMi ani the tradition of the Sc:ybold rkrcade and the Dupont Arcane
Which gives such a distinct ;)orsonalizy to Miami. Alua, cnQ arcade crQatoo
more fronta(je °oT the ref -ail s2aC:o jjja);A,nq it inore viable because it becomos
part of the street syt;tuM. The top of the building iz set back in thrc,,u szaguz
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programatically creating different sizea floov ar,:-.as, larger wh�ch may
well be used by the bank at the lower: IL.:vul Whic . n are
appropriate for the World Tr;Ade Cunter whlicr 16 a C.")I%C710r.er..tion of
small offices of 1,000 to 5,000 sqw"i:t! Zoet. Aisrc ot*".Qr f*L-a*,:ur,:, of the
building which is very i-minortdrit, you will noticu, that: tht-.._-C *L, a 6erieS of
notches that come right down to thu ground, YOU Can 6OU -L.1105L in ti%C Mo4el
here as well, what we're trying to do i,-; not -.:Owur or, V.01? Of a
garage, really one thing, a coluvin th.:iz UJG 3 ac],V,,:, cle,rly tj t'.-&L i;rounc..
The entire
1he entire structure is Wr:.ped ail CA CU"t,111.1 '41U11 GI ;;.VLSI.. dl,U 1 -i bai'td
which you can sue here. The gara;u i!i; ;LCLUally vur'..I.Iiate-1, Ire r:,utal '.',Z.nds •
at the garage level a�:c louvered so that in a ci-'Ly w.",I'Ch I*'.11, Sort Gf a Uelight-
4s always f.,usair all -,jtrQ-ucc!cj in ail sides
ful breeze as Miami docz thoi:e Yes.:
of the garage. Now certainly of immm-dia"'u to ycu iL, t"-u :,U!_;I'cjrI Of
the garage itijelf and Mr. Ortulli of Travel:.. Associates aril consultinrg
engineer for traffic and par,;ing, 'I thini.'. w,-. can br:_,i!fIy "L.-.tr) Lom,.B of
the details .but' let mu ex,-L).'a4in t'r-at thin). tneze are two ,.C_nclpiu concerns
4n the development of the garage. :.o t . "10 uffucv. that ` *,as on the
CarjA(J(. j
street system, how y,')u got in r.ii ouc. )e 1.%;. Succ,-,c.ly j zi-ie. in-ccriial o.-.tjdr,-
ization of the garage. No-e vihur, Arc Lega,-, t*:.iL, ex-
tended analysis, which wa.,-, to mr, "na C.L*., '-Ianaqu� at. that
time of various. alternate Vu prcZur,:;Jly We to zcei-. out
the Most ef:octivt: del;ig", for z.'.-Au cjru (2) to insure: o%iroelvus of the
shape of' Lhis tower did not tuzult ill 6 �6
iont. I think the':t _'fU two Princi!)Ic w,Ys you c�%n lCIY QI-t a garage, One
with a sloping floor sii�-,Llur to trio :iirjort sucond-,., a f'..;Lt floor
with k,hat is called an expresu ra"A-f'. sy:;toin. 'N'ow tLran'.-.Iy, -c.*,-Ie,
Which we looked at with so.,nu, C.Arc haQ, two DOLUI-itial 1A4Vali-ItIlCjJ!J to 1Z., (1) '.;I-i('y
tend to be More efficiunt because the; CIVI.) tll to
go,nter. Secondly, zlnere is a dQ(41:(.0 of
floor qdracje, Puoplc A.'L' Vo.l:y Zarciil_ar wti,i it an., acc. parking
i. Ij
on it. The flat floor cj,4,:ag(_ iL; cu�ctali`1'7c.r1GVta-IQ and cfd ez*f Cie.. t i n in ro=ks
of parking, you know, it 1,.i d t: 1 a I.- floor, It dots I-uvu an apparual. d -L sadva
age in that the LXiif(J'25 rai(.L)L as t'nkjyI-L-Q called arc' ljLUL)o114'14:n r-l^,U rli;ApS -.tI
a sloped floor garage. T""IL-ro, ari. btandar(:,6 foi: th,%,c rZxiI,-ZjSj nonutheluss, they
are sroepur. An an�,lo;:;y would to-, I L`7cayno bou,Qva:7_` , whon Vou ::c,;T,e into
I Biscayne Boulovaret you have that ram,)ing sy:Ltum. is a ratherpoor exam-
L
p1c, however, bectiu.:,to that rump is tortuuuri, there .s no dou;:it al'out iL i6
uncomfortable. Wc consiuerad, as I mont-lonu I'll, but L:Iti.:,wituly rejuctaC�, I:A4
sloped floor systum fQr three rou4ons on tne of this de_iiqn. t -is
that as those rx:ips came down to the ground floci:: not so muci, as thc: eastern
property lint;; near howckrd Johrison'a but near t':,e cvntC.-r of the. ',:iulldl'.ng they
compromised the lay out of theretail space and is the public IL-vul, the
street level, the "11,:Ist important Level as fa:7 as the people of the City are
concf.rned- Secondly, structurally the rectangular base o., the sloped floor
&L�siqn. wrtilo workablu structurally are not in very clear rolationshir, with
the curve of the tower footprint. Thirdly was the specific impact of the
peop', * u mover sy,*.;tt.,ri which pat;sos, through thu building and at the 4th and Sth
levels in the cane of this building requires an easemt::nt of 30 to 40 feet
dQponding on whuchur you cantilever the track out over the highw4y. The result
of that was that tau 2. oor. wore sloped uom,c tning like close to 6%. Now,
the normal standard for a sloped ijarago, the: desired stand"rc. is
5%. 1.1he one a-c 'Lhe airport i think is ovor. l.e 5 th"n bit but 7 do nCit. '&'now
that spuci,ficajly. W_-, at Warren iavers consul! ants, aAin121y would not
accept the ra"T") at %:hU people mover 11ovel and we rt,:,.pactod hie judgement.
I also recognize that others may disagree with this but 1 wxitQd t.o e.%plain
why iL is that we have a f1L4t floor garage. Now the _:let floor garage: Goes
have an advantage and that is auring peak hours - morning, evening - you're
not park-iny ar.d circulating on the same r.imp 5yL;tom 60 that the car!; can. move
vury quic".1y and you Can got ir. and out of the g4racje more oL%,,;Iy.
of this; ravip ii,5 M.-. or"1.111 v:..l explain ie; at 15'% which is wizhir, the normal-
ly accuptaZIL 11.nuLu for sucr an express ramp. :a fact, » bQ.,ive they accept
up to a 204. picuh a4.rhoug7h th-it iortainly is steep and not in the
case where_- it forms cho Qritiru cix'clilation sy-5t(-m of a garacje. ihert. is one
other m"jor cons iduration in the dosictn of any garage today anQ I belit-.-vu Mr.
Devlin to"chud or. it L:L!,o anal that coricerr&w car Sill. Ohul Codt: Was
written around wh' -,,: Was- in the 70'o wit'.-, thL .:jrowing size, of cars.
Today, obviously ruvoluLion is going on and I noticQa yQsz.�raay Detroit is
spending soxtuthincj like 85 billion dollar!; by 1965 to c,;r:; SI%-,aljQr. we
not knowing hC.')W Lhu City, what -.)OI;itiori 'ho City nigh- L want to r-&ko with regard
to car sizu, arill thi!i i)t:;ir.g a CIZY Garage in which ,ks Mr. once pointed
out the Ci,cy should riot be granting a variailcu Z,c,;: its ow.i garage unless the
Code is changed.... t,;..v
Mr. rJIUMrAQr. Why not, WC did Jr- Or, the building,?
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Mr. 1'ri 6unbQrg; A'.: any rai.4, Pit iidVu la_C: 1'.1b 1`, il_ :..Cc. r l'G
ways. Wu have: laid it Ullt confor:Lilicj to t:iEa e;:ib r.•.; ?i1...:,_ 4J" ;t :,11X Of
one third small and large cars according t(j ti,C StanlAar,:.'i ).n code, that
way this garage is eleven floors, 1476 cars. Secondly, we ;.eve laid it out
according to recommendations made by Mr. Traver's office ind they are the
ones that are reflected on the finished panels, we have ail the floor plates
drawn here. That is a universal car size, 8L; by 18 feet_,e:xCellcnt for small cars,
adequate for all of the lrge cars. 1�ne ac:vantaqu of aoinrj it all one Size
is that you do not navc an proble:il of big i;,,rs taking small car
spaces or small car:6 taking big car Spaces. The third alturr,ative We have
laid this garage out on is ai mix of small cars, 40% small cars, 60% Purge
cars, small car ::ta!!l.i % i by 15 or lb tF„et, We'vc! laid it out with 16 feet,
and large cars 8 by is i:uut. This we have preparud a paper, in fact, it
is in this book which I would be happy to hand out some other copies to.
Mayor Forre: Could we get one for each member of the Co;ax,ission,.
i✓k..Frodenbcrg: Yes. I think th,:sc car sizes I just Irii!ntioned are also the
one!, that nave been sujgoster by the consultant to the Off-Str(:et Perking,
Mi:. May uo despite the quandry there is some acjrGement on wait would be an
aappr3priate stall size in view of this d04Tn-Si7.i.ncj Jz. ,autO:iiODiles toc.ay. Now,
going to thy: mix, then we C,dn take a !i l _ a ilJor off ,jarac o. dn:: It
ca.n bt: done by taking the filth floor and turning thQ outer bays into coiipllter
of "Cu, offic(i space for the 4iorld Tray ,o Guntur sD you'll l:uVU d .',.v; i ar Gar-
acje. Yiow, !:aic:l of these :.hIce alter:l.ltives hava� u?)roxi-mately 1475 CIrs in
i.c give or take 10 car•a one way or the other.
i e:. nie ask ra quick qu :stion sit �I'i Loto a.. `y' 're
abuut the spice would be used in con junction with ti.i? i)Oi��U to rS Zor
the tower above??
.'reuenbe rg : Yes .
..... 1.1uroio1!. We11 xr. Knox an6 ::r. FOsmoer, what L:oQs t a
, , b the ,. i.0 to u., Wne Ye
ti:e federal people gave, us the lnoney for a par.kinr garage period?
iQ::. Yosmoen: No, .( don't i.hink so, Commissioner, if t:IQ �l aCe and t;.c: fed
d_d not provi.le the money For a parking garage. Tnay provided money for a
cOminurc:4a1. spedc,. and for the addi.t.ional coat within that garage to bully a
plat -form on w;lich the •cower is being built.
Mr. Piurn.'luer: Okay, Vm just asking a question.
:+fir. 'Li7)ton: Excuse wo, if I could respond to that. The lease with the
City and Dade Savings provides for Dade to pay thv difference in cost if any
is added to the cost of the garage by design changea.
Air. ?iun^lmcr: Mr. Lipton, obviously tho Peas that you deal with, the banking
laws are the dif*ferent than the .feds we deal with here because they are very
expl.lc it: .
Mr. Linton: Could I fini;:h my colYZicnt, please?
Mx. Plummer: I'm sorry.
Mr. Lipton: We arc: anticipating that there i.s a contribution by Dada to con-
.;truct this parking garage because of its increased since of several million
dollars so we're reducing that contribution against the space that we are tak.
inn bask so there is a net additional cos:: to us to bring the garago up to a
levQ1 that we can accept and which Will accomodate the tower so there is an
overage in this garage versus th,: other....
Mr. Plununur: I'm just asking the question, that's all.
Mr. Fr>dc:nberg: .... ;Actually there is a full integration oz tower and garage
facilities.....
b:ayor For.'ro. Vny don't you just firlish your statement, because I've got a
whole surieu to both architectural groups.
Mr. Froderiberg: Let nle, Mayor r-Torre, obviously of great concern to you is
schedulo. it is of concorn to us too. sonleti.me early Out in this project,
I think in April we put t.o�,ather a propose::i cah:Ntruct•ion schedule. Obviously
things have not gone! tnt: way We anticipateLJ they would go. However, that
schedule anticipated a total 13 month co;,;;truction time for the garage. It
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was based on foundations being started January 1 u,na th.tyu_c"c�e brae being
completed in December and than you had a period of a month any a :,alf for
the demobilization of the contractor ai:.:i tnu curltir.u.l�i:,;. Q,.the lower. There
is no reason that that construction schedule carinnt be :fie: in fd t, the key
items are (1) the foundation desic;n wrtich cleans all o l:ha colu:;s and column
loadings have to be established. We are underway with unu fount-ation design
and the colums are diafinit-.i.vuly locatd:'1 and the .(Gdd: ar: boin(} calculated.
The second consideration .is the wind tunnel testin;l of t ;c building because
at some puint the frame nd:; to be fine tuned accor7inrj to ,:he results Of the
aerolastic tests. We have estabiishoc, a date in the tunnel with the University
of Western Ontario. The foundation of the structure.... '1'unnul testing,
really the major item.., and this scheme has been built in a very curious way,
the drawings are schematic. Actually, the scope of the work is far more de-
tailed thar, the drawings, in other words there are large scale drawings of all
the critical items not just the core and so on. So we're very confident that
in vit:w of this date of r'ubruary 1, 19it2 we can de:live.: this g,,rage as drawn
and -it can } e built by -chat date. Now 1 wond er if I raig;,t have, Mr. Ortelli,
I know your timLi is ;;port and there's a lot oil your CulenGdY, } llt ;US't to ex -
Plain briefly, sir, tht internal organization of the garage be:cauie I think
he can do it more effectively than I can. Jack?
Mayor 'r'erre: All right, sir, your name for the record.
14r, ,pack rartelli. namu is Je:c'r; Oartelli. . rupresent the fi.rrr, Of TraVt:::S
Associates, consu'.tan1:s foz traffic and narking. 14L L;e:U111s tJ mu thuri aru two
principl.G i:;6uQ6 111 ri iutlOn to the i)-Oj)O310d cor'1C:C:rns
itself with ar.cu:ir,' ,:,rw traffic distributio.i and tiiL G: nu2' r4la us LG tha S'truc-
turn ltuul:., the deuign cOncept of the Structure- Thurc are also S4,i.i riucon.ary
ibsue?s concerning operation .and control which I will also gut to but iir:it the
two Principle i:;su s. The acceeill to the garaLy,� 1S concenuratcd a long a cor-
ridor on the east vide o-Z the site. 'whet drive cxtunds butween S.Z. 3rd and
S.D. 2nd strueta. What it allows is that traffic can unter or 'Leave from either
dirc,ction. .Now, that maY not be a very profound stat(:ment except given the
frGa'd y orientation we have determined that the majority of the vehicles in
the morning will enLur fro;n 3rd Strout and the sane group Of vehiclus th-ut e:1-
tere:d fromm 3rd Straet in the morning would pro -for to exit Onto 2nd Szrdet.
And as : Said, the: princlrilo rc'azOn for that i5 'chi: Oriontatior, of the freeway
rcl�i?:;. Now, there: are two ,;y6t;orw in thin garage and you could be in either
sy:Stwm .And ;Kill make til.at Uhoico to enter or exit onto 2nd or 3rd Street. In
rulat:ior, LO r'L: Uutiign c:Onc:c,pt, aside from the ObviOUs cortlpatability O1: the of-
fice tower Wit"', the ParkIlIg structure thi:i f.lt:t floor du sign has cor t'. tin other
'the: first is vertical circulation, that is to move -
say op,:.:rational aciva-,tage:, • f
ment up or movoinc:nt.' down wha.c.h wt., in t':ne trade sometimes re .er to vertical cir-
culation, i$ ac ompli.shod through a series.of expre:,s ramps. Those: ramps have -
only or,<, nr. and that is to rrlovu traffic up and down. There are no parked
cars along the: ramps and al: 5 O'Clock whoa push comes to shove and the majority
of the traffic de;iros to leave the gara,%: that is an obvious advantage. in a
slopin, floor s',;ructuro the vertical movument up and down is impedud by the
maneuvering of the vehicles in out of their stalls and when you'ru on the top
floor of a st; ucturu, of a very large structure incidt.:iit illy, and you have to
cope with maneuvering vehicles backing in and out of their stalls, blocking
your exiting maneuver and you havo to do that door after floor after floor ,
that could be a considerable disadvantage. New we as consultants have obvious-
ly work-:." on u,ctny typazJ of designs incluGinej Sloping ,floor gar,.�lkaey a;i:i it swe lrs
to ua �ht.re is virtue a.n a :aloping i`1pC r garage: when they are livit ed in siwu.
However, when they begin to reach 14-1500 apar:es thalt virtue diminisnu;. if
yGu look at thu modal, you will notice that every oth r floor is shaded in
pink and the floors in butween are Ehtdud in blue. That is tc;ll.us-
tratu tho tact that opoi:ationally thu structure is designed as two independent
sy,';ter;,t; :;G cvt::;, Though there art. ulaven floors the: driver (either going in or
Out. .to Or.i./ CunCt;rnu,1 with '.,elf of that numlber, halt Of that number being in
onv c"5e five and the: other case being six so that circUlaLiOn doe6n't metro
he' 1/,01 to tjo 11p and 'a,1t7 and Up 010vun tirIC6 bUt rather at most it i:l Cilllu i
LiVCU10tin(j 1r1 Ulit: sys,cm and 4 times in the other. Now, to do that, 'zo have
that advantage: we i:ad to (jO to ramp systems that connected eve7'y Other 0Or
so th:lt any one ra.np gouo, for example, from the firth to the thirci c.r r.'rorr,
tht, :second to the fourril. The ramps ,aru leapfrogging and so they must b,r 15%
to accomplish t'r(at. Now 15i ramps, a'ra they acceptable? �'iell, I would like
to allu,zu to the tact that we would consider 20% ramps u;.acceptatble, We would
prefer ramF.s ir, the or.'eiur ot: perhaps 1210 but we would consider 1556 ramps to
be a comfortaralt maximum. That's about the: best way I can explain that.
Mr. Plummer: :.fir, lur mQ a:;k you a question 11 + .all. Ili :talatiGli to that
eleviti.On, can you tens me: or do you know what the elvvazion Oi tR8 ralilpa at
the banke:r's Club are'
0J 5CP 15 1980
Mat oartelli: I'm i;orry, I dl,:,
Mr. Pl=ner: You don't know, Okay.
Mayor Ferre: All ri(jht, wel.". thank %ou vei:y ;tli:,ch.
Mr. 0artelli: i just have a couple Of (,U] . Ch TT,E,tse coxinents I just
made were in relaticon to tai5 Cieb,_qn. I would
just like to take a -,orc, an-:- art W"Lich would
apply to x-,y Chink
Fredenbt•'rq Allu(Ic-ta r_1 jit- 'A'k, Ilk-"W ilWit-' 'Ail population that
is cluite. varied. 'LT. is � -,A,. ..,- - `i,.) I a ::i
VZ�;Z:Ll,%ACU,'i t,1' �JiLu�tjl '_1Z thL, Uri:.toci s : I for exam-
Ple, that 4 5Z of thu 1i", today are small :.ars, thuy Ire in the
Compact Class Or 1,CD::()._klpc:aCt ziri, oZ CourtSe, tha-,: trend is going to con-
tinue, next year it. l%,ili i)tj i17 ter 43 jAi-ld it puts thu ont3ra-tlor "in kind
Of L funnl, position. it:, ht-, qoina to -cAL, L sta,I 1
; uvery Year?
he (l;) th.lt. G-ar com.-)"ny has takur, iLhe position that
from. .in :d: v-c!W c,',urc! Woul' hL_ zin advan',_a(jct in '-,Ivinq a
slightly I)u-. uJ"01:;:, .;L,'.i wic.L",-, rZit",'er tjrlhil Somc,
stall:' paintud 'oi un.-: :.-)i`nzed .or cars because If
you taku the latt',
shouli. you, r�av,;, ..... ;l t]-Au t1hird
'oiI% a:-, -,-Durator par-
-1-ILM yo.a.'
to cii(trit, tlhu 'Li
I ro nc!
ff :*I
01 t L L of --cut W_C�%.!, he Sump
rouc.-:1 "'Ahu o;., Lar_:
6."'d "S,2 A:*,Y.." fi'011
10, coo 11. t;
noc Gill`'
on.,Iy to thc:lr pur.,.inq
but the,
th,tt I "Do io tilt? CaL;hlerinq
:um a n ei WC: t h -o ux,ploft., cash-
U r L.^1 C
i.ro[,, 1%is jc,A .-W k"V-'rb ::ar to walk Co u�.UV'it.Or or t,) Llhu 10'Zby
w,-te.'Uvvr tht., AWA' , I 1)tt (Jilt:, be,"Oru hC cjuts
it" pay PY IN' S ":t." OL itC;L,(.UQ Ths wc)ula h4vo a ter-
Pcir"iCul,irly in co.r,nu::tion with the
Convui,ti.r)n WnL.L"., t:"rc Wou,.d be 1, 0QVad MCA
i;nrS and
traf-
fic at the U,16 Of thAt
A
imtr. ary workir.,� with Guorge
i:,d vilul, h, A v t
On 1):),:. Of thct; C1"cu;1 01 Itj a 5.,1S5 t?.<11(-.InSiVe
dusiqc, on the total ThL s1ic.htly smaller so ,.11at it is
ilGt oui".Q an f..qoidl but -,;ht9 w.X:)Q1'.ui1'uru is thc: Same. We ,are
P-ct�:par(.td to Incive w1tlh both thut g,�Araqe withIn 1:*ne time
Cral-10S that are:
&IYO.' T"CrrL!; 1.1` Mr. LiPI011, I iluv?, iii,d 14, T-he Comrrii:is.-*.(:)n q.X1 i)Uar
With rl(-! on T jU_t WLinl,, zo "sk Yvu a Vui:, ',- LYiuf quv.-.,?tion an,! then cN-t into,
b0cllltic W(_, hay..: to !jztct: tc,) YouI T vint to go
1i11-.0 z, w11,).,c? 4Lries
or clue L; tions urldl V .'ilk- IfOr YOU CO kind of partjCipauo sillce
you AnC '.Ir. W-)rz-h,:Lm 111*t, invOlvei.i. in "I"le procuss becau2e. Of r;Llr t::ontractual
rulations witn ol you. Mr. WOI:Sh. .Am qr, U, d
YOU StUP fc I j.-Wi r,.` " Now, IQL mc; you Lh L " Clue; r-lOrk . The co=lit, on h :,t _-- to
ma a dec: a :;Ion , It vV ry C111 IZU t CA .!
a'.no main and 0" ',:�Jat rieCii Ion I-ja!; to CIO With the CORM
ln;ur,incQ
COMP�A-_ILU-'i Qlri All Gl-
J . lt.:'.,it 'LQ 1,::* WC:end Up
q1::tt.[*,L7 intO ;vxnu of h0l'U th,1L WL' Cal*."t* G,UtLIO, 1 00'.I1L 414V,:.
Lills Commitijion 'IF, but I think onu of the
impurt,int thi:; Cx'rj 1 ,')ri were to suluct, "s I k: that you
hve come lllf.k, 1".:it; Wi .'fl and frankly that kind of sur-
prised me bucaut;u 1 t:.ho11q1.,.I: bQ IVed sr%llunaw with both of
these things buCUUtie YO',: an a . .ItcArc-c;LuC, party Tic, miAtzc:r wh`ch way
this (1c)ctL;, t i i I is c c) 1lL*,,l i t;lily: aMorning �x_i mY z;implu
question to )IOU is if 1:11c to accQpr- thu otlic.-v garage, I'm
not tolkinq &t)ur_ 'ZL)WQr r'jL]oW a!F, 11(J%q aru VOL; a -p-:Oblem
With th,:IL",
'1-W 15
S
Elow
M SI u::r1L`.`i
Mr. Lipton: Yes.
Mayor Ferrel And does that mead that yo'a do act acca�)t tt,i:i uesign as
presented?
Mr. Lipton: No, I have not seen it tc tine Ei:er,t viould Le required in
order to do Lhat.
Mayor Verve: So in oi:hC?r lelvrds Yc)-a navcn'r• .t's closed
but there is !:till a little bit of a" o;.)enir,c in tnL-re. Okay, that's what I
wanted to understand,
Mr. Lipton: Our major problem with tGG!, or L•.,u IY,:., jJr 5dvdn:.;age ii; t-net We
are ,ioaling With two Contractors, both Of the,„ have luor*ea at both designs,
the inteVration i,ctwue:n t-4%e gars ju and l:he bL:11.)i.:Cj l.ii !'.hU :Io:. :uSitjn ilaS
convinced us that thl.S 1S t.,d Y)t'tLOr way to rp. iiowt�vur, .:ror.: the: CorP,;%fission's
polt(t of viear I wouI4 anticipate that both could be accepLable cend both ap-
proved. 1 bolieve our ieasc calls Zor us bcl:,Lj a -lu to ,ay "for :3r,G niake modi-
fications to the dusi:jn Of the- garage: so there i8 nothing 1nCO;Tpatii)li between
Mr. ',ti;Drshamis contract dna what wt: a1e proposing to co.
MAypr E:::rE:rl�:l'tie i don't wal,t to Jut i.,L'o the lu�ji1. is of this
t: ii11 '� i..,
Uritll u 11t'C1C 'ilt !,-, -L ei:GV1 %I%u . 1 Wc•.'" lira; to ilo 11; d5k
the al:c*ilL_t �.l Gi .�J:.'ii r Su pro,
li' tn(:�j wGuid ;,,And '.i7. roaiCl lCIU
to :hv -rdc; oph—ine, .-jLc"sQ, :Dec.,u:;o have a :u.i6 G1 Cj(.u:3tlon:;. And
I will Start Wiz*4', .:he's i�ul CIL Sij..CzA �I llu
M;kdu Du:. 1'C ill( �'Ut '/JGr 11(jU1.'cJ. in year cU5`:!, C,C)W iml,rly
cars do yc'.l eiavc?
U1�1. :'Q T( 11:.1 '., ai: ,;,Vr:rai'e! ,7f 1•i��:),
ii,'1VGr : i "ru . 1•, %:'), uISG yO.. ,:u;'i; IyJU, t t:a7 iioLJ, ltiltil i l•!ga (1:; to Zhu �,11gn-
"c-nL to the : CO2—i c :iov(.:r Wh1C.h i think is a oa or .,:;uLic 1n tnjl ,, Clou:i you
ali.Cn;ncnt altof, changu or Modify in any Way the cl'..ic;rirlent tnai. is tentatively
sine ::ed by the: (;jovul'nGle:rlt for tliu design OL tha'i P(;,)j)a: mover?
1' � ,'^,�•- :.th thu rjuople ::over GC:o ilu last Tue:;da' aZter-
u..TD:;:�TiT'i.:,i SYi:r1i'::,i: A`- ��� W c i I
noon dad thi: Curved a1iciamtanL• We hd1/0 going thrOU(Ichoir building is consist-
trnt tVitn t:,( lmu documullts. NOW tO i)i: friti%P.", t*,�rl: 13 d GiZ.t ri:r.ce, ia1'rj1,
you're U,;ain:.,. tn,-. uast of tilt: building and wt:'ru 15. tc,1t-t from Clycie
CGurL. bL.t t. iC :�Oj�ltlon of till'; OPii 15 that whether It is shifted in of out it
i.,; an ac.cupr.able: alir)n;le:nt within tr.e context of their Dal....
Mayor Terre: Doos that mean tine answer is ye:,?
Ji;iDl-,\Ti :EL Ye!s
i:ay01' .urrt_: 'n oL-LV W=iS your design is cor.l.)atibl4 With the existing
desinn of thQ ?r;,,)le ,Mover?
J�ID:: iTTi"i%rJ S?cr'>,KER: I",%' a C t 1 Y -
Mayor Ferre. Okay. Now, I have a yuustivn wiCh I:a,Jards to that because I see
that you have: an escalator that gods over the streut over on another piece of
property and my quo-5tion on that e:lCalatol.' - as you know, vie don't ow:'t that
piece of property and so T would iassumu that you are then recommending that we
to in and either negotiate or take that -piece of property.
UNID::NTIF TED ^PLA:EIR: Again, We d-40CU6£iQ" this 50MU t"inlu ago, 'tile DI'M people,
wu ff:lt putting in trio' liL:1Q:..,( while: ay'a1:, 1.:. f,:a;;lale: i:; ;itrU: tur:;ll" compl.1-
catGc; i)at WV sucj,y'Qt;'i ed t ,(;., Q )tion of going across the street, they were very
enthusiastic alDout it and encouraged US..,.
Mayor Ferro: who is L'liuy?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEA.'�E %: The J; M-
Mayor Ferre: what happens when it rain?
UNIDF.NTIFIE SPY-: Q-'R: will have to 1cu canopied, it is not shown in the
model. bur: you would Canopy that.
%14
Mayor F'e'rre:: And. what hap,penS wher. the: Feat:ratcd Store people .:nay, WL-11,
You're now encroaching on :i;Ult1-n:ii"On dO:lar building gnat we're going
P '1 K
01980
Of
to bo puttl.nci up
of property and
TNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER. i),-trt OZ the :it for
this, was the fict that a
and this was a Way 0.4 SerV-rig that
Mayor Ferre: Dkdy. the nuxt 1, navc., :LS -40 thL
Structural, Yc'ur 1- i.OW mai'!f 'C?
UNIDENTIFIED
Mayo-'* 'Furru -. Aria y),u I.jwur i-z: how Stiva::'u Z . eut?
Mr. Candellat Fokighly,
Mayor F,rru'-. So compara.-Ic- A:c;- i-,*cjv; maich is yc,--:, cost
.c,r
2
-All!, U il 11) :.1 2:- 1 V U W L! -I Z
I1Jt
W VC) i 1. CC,': L
X
7
W. ';-t.
t 11 is C t u 1: .':ai LC':, i" O'Li C Zi -U c it
-'T"I t Q y
Now 1',0%%' Irc.* WC: t() p'Y tl"'.!
tell:. 1jp"C"n, W tj -r 1,z1a; riot th--- zityli; co fj'ky for tc'e des.19r,
changQal.
.Mayor Of tho cc):;r in
thc:--.- q,',j(. out of. :),LdQ Y."BC.Qral sovl"�.--; Loan.
XL'.
Worshan., to -)rov.-,do.
to ov, z::,."
Uo n')-L -if', 11*1\""u—:.-j
to
ccont:ac.t roc.,uIVt.lr,:-n" Wc. woul"', "-NO cit,'ation.
�t L', V ; , , L 3. (�3C' Goo
OLr TWILICitii, on che iwriiaiWinc. s�,,r P't� . i, Y
v t.: n(,k: 10 YJ r C),) 1 W ,, t tl I :S r. It-, I r U S C r I r.
thk.' pf-'J. cAnd W.'.11
tno towcx of ('iln U.--Iwl for
wu t;U*" In
provluin,:, i U)Jmquxr w,-- w.11 u&(. tlni 1:
Moyc,r m-,w ycnu' N'x.
Tf 1")14 WC:I'L.' t.() Qt.%.r
s o t1. a -'- W L. c o u r"".A K Ck T.1 1:
Y. I " t. W, 7) u a Cj v
Cos c ?
r-hQ C� U
Mr.
Mayor POrru. W11'
-for us
to say
tha'L
Wi
youll-k: n'.'r
UNIDENTIFIZD SPEA!'ZR-. It- is 11':0,030 I
square f4.aet larger.
Mayor Ferro: Th-)s ona, well tAur, wh—jju -C*,. YOU
that question which in.
dimensions obviously are zhe saint ile,--aLjsL; **-e L
Dut. how
high is this garage structure?
UNIDENTIFIED 5PEAFXR: It is 11 par;cing 1�vo].'.
Mayor Ferro: Yes, but now many lft:et is
INAUDIBLE RESPONSE
Mayor Ferrel So you're talking now "out !:L.^, fUC� Z3 tilt: level,
how much is this one?
Mr. 'Earl vlorshan%: 109, Mr. Mayor, it'.j Zjr.`.
Mayor Ferre; 109, sc, thf-- luffjz,Qnc� ai-,y 'VG1y 1:.111CA1:.
In other words there is az much bulk i-, 9--AgU a-i thero is the other.
i ': Q 1 L :vj hcAvc
Mr.. Wors"aam: t W.-I CA 1 IL L _- . I
t
a Question, Mr.
Mayor *2erre: ;UGC. tO iAdt-C: AS jCD-,, h
j'
with this L, ru!,-AtL tv t,i,4sUrj;LCZ..
Mr. Earl
Mayor klerres c;J an o
Mr. Vj0ndQr if
your t-1 t C
,:,--ctural and unq:Lnuurir,�, anc: dQvolopuril 1*6!cjQ,;,.,
Mr. 'Lipton; No, thaz'l� thu construction cost from George Hym,t,n.
.Nir. Etirl ) 4
Our "lz,000,000 -'PricO to the city incluaas architectural,
engineering, auvoluperL5 fees, etc.
Mayor :'Errs . Let .nc �.ut it *Co you .:hi:: w,A.,,, X-c, Are yo-a as
if it wore a tu=},.uy pricc.-? 1sl%e,-, we Say $15,000,000 that's a finis,-,ed garage,
iorgut the tower.
Vx- Worsham: �2hatls $15,000,000, ye:;, sir.
Mayor Ferro: 'Phat includes architectural, an,�ineori:jg ....
Mr. Worsham: Developer:,' t`uez, contractors' ::oil teszj:jc,....
Mayor ►erre: But not the -.:cr the towt;,r?
Mr. Worsham. Yes,
Mayor Porre: That's all inclusive.
Mr. Worsham: Yes, sir, that's all inclusive.
Mayor FQrre; Does it lnclud-t: the skin?
Mr. WorLh,4m: il� ill -1.10w".1cQ fc'l: the: whici: i.c. not suft.%Cifnt
to Put the wAir, Of QiLnQ: tower On. The Lk"I alj'.0w"ncQ would be conzidtir"ly
More.
Mayor Terre; Okay, now do you want '.� "dQ to that or make anything else?
Mr. Lipton; No, jtji3r. I-%:- T44(J nUMbLrZ We got 1jy4-nar.n,
thv 15,680 i-'i c0-----7-ArLblQ tO -IC,958. That 1,'4 'nar-" construction CGat to
the contractor inc! U��i�C! Contrac-tor 116 fee, it doe:l not include 'any oz- the
additional costs.
Mayor Verre; All "a e
w v c i beginn-
ing October 1-jt and c4W- Yc),: mta t those cfUidLlines
with this garage?
I
'E- P -1, 5 C
Mr. Lipton..
Mayor Fr-,rrc: W,:Juid S-AZAVe -,:o bu on "i
Mr. I Lipton: V.'u Still wo cz:n rmetir it.
Mayor Forre: jyjqrLts anj 1-,,gress, Vve .-Ilroady looke_` tit It Z...-ici as lar as
can soo, the jincress cciresb ZeA(;,_-or bouz wcn,: zidn,C, -L &on't 6ee any
substantial. diff,2runcu.
Mr. -orf"." ic traff in
one dc�;ign L 0 t 1' US 1: c,, a m us - n off
Ic"Are strut! t. "11i lc'n not ijav5 to C i_, c�_'Lazu t-'.-.e Dupont
pla,:a areu. -,-r C74:j,: Z f1In n inIur F_xprusway,
i.,:, W.:; ztnoficiai than
circu_'atl'.n,Cj that truck traffic througn thCr DuPont P'Lava art:a-
g1 want to aciain I think that
r.
WE!kav(tw-cjn�'ition3 :Ln terms c;tiri-,u nurc:. Onis an end nq
- , " I . bu(j:_%n� ng con -
date Of FL."ol.'u-Cy )U,: o *1_.; 2 1very ol
struJticm by Octoljor 1. 1 want
y
ainoU.-,t Of WCrK A,-,C'. 1 ?,low ZhZIZ is C*le�Ar 01:
not, i1r,, abc)uz. tlia*L.
2 cA3 u': .1
an: YJvf Was yc;; and I al---6urmu hu Marlc Yu ; On bath.
CjC4f"Cj,;: wo.'A.Ld L-1 U af Y t- I L 17.% :o;*, Z'.I
ion 1-15.
,Ma - "or 1';L!11, 1ut,.-, clar;.-fy it. can you Aoqin of t*1-.0 Cjar-
agc- i;y octobC-,-
w(.!
by 3c.:tob,:r 1. ha VC: zo oxl�lain to
you, v.ii,,t include, tiiu _,ntirc the c:,-,rtai-n wa!I,
Lo t b7 October
is not iil, V-his pcillt and I mcntioric:a Z*40:, key izums, *_:%)U:-,dati-'OnF,
ano. colum;-,6, tric., �Str%,CtL're.
1,U!- UT) a bUj.jCA`,-,Cj W1t1,C,'.It thu tfounda-_ior, an,it you
by Octcher 1;t T think t,nat would 'bu :1at2zfact-
Ory.
Mr. me just our schedule to you. Then we se_`d that thvro
is a in whicn mi!lre in negorniations for tlnu C!Ontractar,
thzo,: !hen Doca.�cr 1, October ..... Excu3o
cluzln,g zho contrzi_-Loi: %,,,o,"!d
ho "voulc Would wor".. 7,%,-.,uary 1.
to jou, 1 thin'- pQ�-Indps
Now wu a We Ot�.4
it iii OtdtT.,T forthco-;�,:_riq f;:om t.1-o_- com"any or v_nt,; HirZ_.;,,
C o m ,) a n.y
nI,, h,ivu o;,,e cluc.�szj.on and Mayer Turf'-,: s 0 If t 1.5 y r,7) U1, CA"..
;,,.avc thQ;.r
menz in icx,' 1h,-.,a.rL 01.' tr,cir cjara(jo, it qjoc.,:; 10 floorB, wh(.ro do yal.1 "lave
Your
ly_: . Cun Ct (;. I .I . .l n ..:1'- cj .' 1%, t (j ( .. ._.
Mo7ul I.t.-rce: WnQrk- , 4'
tc
her,: -L..; z.hu C).-' t"ho -1,1 t'-C C"v.' vf
cr, thu
it is uxtremely
Mayor c1l:Q i,11 -lie c:uet_onz, r.aG to _63zll :11 . Y,:Ju, no�A' I '-.,AVL a
4
cluestic,rt z,f Mr. La Bald, 34:1 a%),- wou!,I, As6ociatuS ;And
has VC)111 4Thor` h,td ar, opportunity '.:o Ico%'. altht—c tj - a y have LO JiV a
With therk, YOU knOw.
A
Mr. diehard La Faw: Mr. Mayo:., Dick La Bitw,
ity. yea, sir, we have hat`, the o_apo,:tuniiy
has Submitted ,iis carrilerlts and in suff'ral'
but his prt:Grence l:i the
we also prefer the Fez'na;idino sCfll: i;,i1.
It
Director o. trte j _akin,; ii;�.thor-
Gi
Mayor Verse; in ogler words Conr�.d and ,? soclatea tiiirtr:s Giiat ::hcy're. both
acceptable but pl'afors Fornanniil0 OVu_' 'Grit: 'PLI?
M:. La naW: Yes, Sir.
Mayor Ferro: G=:ay. I have no Lurthur C;uQ6tioas• Do Oi: thu: COrrrlis-
Sion want to cask.?
Mr. PlLlmer: ,Mir. ;:ay0r, ry quu.:tior, it,iCj:,% Du ou':. ill: ..i(C'. Lut i t,lln� W-,-WA.
`(:
WG're' goinq to bo i,akIng a +:1t,Cl,1Gn Oi. i:ir".'! C.t�SIc.:,;" i War,L LO K:,,Ow l.' it is
included 04 It is rot,. Purj.lnaj 9u�,Ni::, i nSVC YeG,i.i 1 f :iuCJ ..) i:,J2'i oT a OCUY-
1
lt'J 72:Upltm. 1 1.'uY.t to }:iiOW huVt: fGu Go fOJ
Contun„�j1aLG for Liii= S4-foty of Liiu, IiSe.r::, 0Z. proposed?
1 thif,!\ 'CXj,,t tiff= Cia:YciilO tiliat Wu'VC'. St..tlr, 1:, ..ti t .u1 nu'rJ '.)r. r.l:t:j +,,.1iacje down•
tGl•Ir: whf:re It 4—.s all bty CiU:�t �. C:irClliL' 'i'/. 1i8 ft cIJ. +JG`:.LO::, 4:4'itl 1:i lu ti10
�.. - r� r_: ,
figurf.:� that iJOti-1 O+". }'G'.1 hu',t. GLG'�L..l, ila<<_ l(;;',,
it tit In With the .firyiru) t:,aL you have prGt)OuuO? 1 Wculd lire t0 hc,ar froil1
both of the. -
Mr. 1.Ly:,1l ilcl: Yt s, % : :i<1Vt Ldi:Y. 1':VLti.i,+j W.t:, fait Oi)GYUZl:r: (%� Ci1L .ii �iLr
c�ilr,ti.ln; nULi:oY'-t}', W(. kilow trt( iY YeC'alilreu+Cnt, Ui oral X-. i V1.3U',!.
tion and Se�urit:y.
idr. 'Ali : -,ton:
mUCh the .JY:.@ for u` ,1',Cr garuk4C, �.t:.di:iUnal:y i T1i i.lt 1]01n' 011t L'C,: t.-lot
and I'm ullra it Can bu a:Ofic in i:lthwr caSa), ,,,&attor of Clo:iilg t.lul <?arare
of i ia1: night, rOli:.27y cja; ;S rat thu orLrur,Cu; 'day. Another ;:uC:tor Concu:rnin j
4ucul:l y if: +n 'i.hu (jaragcf and
a C1Ur,'t iirxv What Wo,:IU bu a W,iy Of Q1icYibl.nCj }:hilt but t1*je arport gara(je is
ur C.:Cel.lrnt garacjo In Lem of its lighting. 1 think you really hAve a good
foulinu 06' Weil b,:ii,;, in glut g:araya.
tin. 1)lL:G»li?Y. :t ); -u:1, tiny that OI'.' y GCY.^iL dr�0',at u�L'CY %hf: U'nl(_'ms C,lili:
11p. tiG'd Iti'G'.i1C .LyR1_ l;u ia.,i:Yu: tnu probl-L-m In Lhu .advC4.,ce, t..ii:i1:':: what Vx,,
5::,%Jlt.y . uC \'J` j.t G!):i. t: a CWGue + i:ll'C.11t W? J;naL' i:0 You i:,Y,�i],J:;C 12 unythini :
in t.ift Way, ;;t.C'arity 1'a :`t ii1C.IlUUd In your t)(jure that you haV.:: quoted?
pU,'.r. 1nC.C1dk:d, L'/iu Cos' of it
W41S LXC1Lld(:u :)C.4tlLalt ..n I:uc:t .arii,'1,3 Auth0rlty
.....lt. V'C 11L.1 Wi11Ch W(, C.t.Q tO ;lQjU:a'1 'CO. TilUrt: Wins anorher list
of i1:t.ii.. Wi,li:il wt., r,tiui Z.(, AUL Li,4 C1'Gy : ucot,nizoa that thay Wera oporat-
ion,:Al Co::'C,, not Ci:. th(: coz);:; of tho (j lrage.
(Mayor 1 ( r1't:: X.`. , LiptOn n,avo onL talk?:, i iGr, o : 1 (i•i • iiavu yGL: Co1.1c to a
final agraamcnL With :/..", Ti.,,sox; on thu 'iiJ«.d .,rcjde CerL.ar u31?et;ts o1' this?
Mr. Lipton: No, We're still it, wolrt: trji11t�....
Mayor hurra: Still in n�+;ol:iaation;i.
Mr. Lipton: Well, we have to get a as to which way we're g(:lna1.
.layer Ferro; :' undurL3can/d.
Nx. Lipton: l VV1C1 ; Ai;'.; Vnt•: .V ,Llun; You v%Aiu O nw CC,lri»i,i3i1S, t,Zt: ch.-,:.Cu of
it wiaA nun my that zh(e.ru Wa3 1oing to bi: a dt;CLsion
i.1t thle. 1.01.:ic 4%Z.i 1.0 t}:L' Choice if W(:' W1Sh to 1)iay trio% di-:fore:nvu t0 hravu...,
liO I V101A:.1 ho;iu th,:ut: bith ::cncmus COui 'ZQ approvfd:. by %11,3 and
if WC, Wit01 to 1'+(»y the Jif uru:ncu uo til'.C'(dmplish tnc: tGWC:r design that that bu
Our Choicu;)
Mayo: F0.r(:. 1\011, Mr. ...i1:t0i-. .a+)OL1:. •! / ililn i ,jli ago : lot':, not ijC:.
into Lnu lug,:tlt: u): It yt.'t, 4A;L'li C),) L.C, :It1 :;(Zs1gri i(Si]t!C'u�. Aaw that Calif SCi0i/
br.inys 1a1-• CnE' .Lu i1 a.. :iG iiuY, 1 WJL1l4 :ii,.: tr.,, l CG1'tknow, do VC)U ... VC your
rattArnc,y :vit i' Your att•,L:,::`) l:, nol: iva t:1at %,: , :'inL is i..ru: and
we nQQd to gtuu ir,L'G thu' :IuVC'
l::,jal:a bO4ciU it 1ti'i1
with ,Mixai Cu:ltcr LG uO "_L'lc,ln t:htg:-, Z:r•(» 4h4 key t inc1 i:: to build
4 ,jarage rro;ll lt1 Q par}:.`.:,(j :iji.;Ack.:;, 4ctually i': l;i 10r +C: i;i but t.'1ciL"'s t:Je fig-
ure through Mr. �1LaIlT,vr' , a`ali we U:4eC; up wlt:t. ;�O 1 l:hink
that that 15 Our lt:Q al COnLr.2tmor. L. 0.1 thui OL,,.Qr ;tuff: WQ have u COTIIIilil:lltnt
Pe or"
with you for the aix space rvc-,-',- ct
;
between those two legal cOlUrAtMen's t1ut :,Oth sides
on that.
Mr. Lipton: We see none.
Mr. Martin Fl-.nc; bu'. mayor, imartl'.n zinc On 1,ehalf Of Contor Associates,
.,t
Inc. I believe it is a relatively si7;:a`9`lt -"orward kind of i.eal decision
that you need to ri',aku. yc)u have a contract that is 2G'-:"-l' 1980 and
It was executu'a the .11th &Av of jklly, jr, which ti-io 6,7vL-Ioper has agreed
and the City has accuprc:� (�
his aqreei:.nt -::o build triis tUrr"XLY Pr0joCt for
*15,000,000. in you have an with DaC"L sav_nc,'vs to give
them the opportinity -,�o build a �j,,_t,,cturc, over the garage. 6; ni Center Assoc-
iates is ready, wil . 1.1,-,Lj aild able t-O P-OcuOd as thL- contract requires on October
1st and is rop:cQsenting to you that the cararw'o that they *,-ji-ve desiy;ned is such
that any structure t,)at Dddc Sal,'irLIS Wants to reasonably hua.Li on that prop-
erty can bu accommodated by that garaqcand so without raX_'n(3 t.r- too simple,
it •really 1"i quite si-,.mplo and it is tlhiit they arc roaCiy to _-.jrocco-d that any
other action Will CdIASL -00j)&:dY CO all the financing of rin,i6 prc'joct.
Mayor Forl:e: well, Fine, Jut. r,,Ie jusi: ze.11 you what m7 dilemna is. My
- t il I (�Ctrago th t L been csign �d
,ill.QrIVIEA is "'4 -;' 1 Trl'lls�- a ha d C
by 70ur client's a,-chituct or 9_t�a'go is t-,Y fur a btL,:r C-orc e.
-his Uscallator f thu build-
7 Lion 1. I� C. t 11�:" out 0
n:-,
and. III:, sor'-Y' Y may 1)4 r":ivl b-at
know. 0'k&y': that you
dr;vu aro',;,,d c).t a ?,)Ae WxY 'Zzsis -nd look for is P:lrking IOC',% ac;I.Oss
-:.o sou iz thG other a'.i;_'2 to whethQr or ',lot 'jot: cori park Ii is ot, a IQ,,.
C lat tuur-
--ter thar, a CIO Up ArC-, tAC_. haVQ to CjQ �ArClX'Cl a
fac(_. look1;%y; all over .C, W*1"if_--L"-4Ul- or not, you :all 1:1r—J, a 6'j)aco anj
W.-AStu t".iac irjteac. of rjoy."jg up while you're look'.,1q. .3 o
view 7 third. tho t*'lat conr'L-�
'1*11:'�*� f�VO'17, A
x r 4
aro ":ile )eQr,.t.:lilywe .:lily on, �u.,-t li-kc we rt--111 U. �_u C.ty
j):Lructor L;jjy6 44 Lht::y 1,1 Lilu
Authurity tht. miler (jaragc C'.'LVCu Me- a preZCr nc-' or 11 f t, �4 t
:?articu'ar Cjj-'-a(j0. rlllW L-. v r , be i,-, all candor, and, 1 s--17 thin and Mr.
CandL!'Lla I,:r.cjw-) th:it 7'-,, 1'2,.-y honc,!jt iibout thi:sCl LilirrjS �iT:J Lhat tile
.1 )er
of 1;h_.. is OLicl-, m0% GL tho 'iu,
6ut you OeJ', thL - O'� -,u can't qL-t onQ
t; t 17 r 1L. I: ;.! . � 1.,! �lur, : s tll,�L 7c.
without' the c-ould, stPcArate it and rma'xe sure fiat wo cuu. . La marry
thut;L! two very happy. Thif; I think -":; a hettu;: architectural
';t"Att...munt -or L.'L;.ho main tower. it is d0sign.
nico 'aQ:,Lc .jl"' it 13 also at.autlful but 1 Lion't
think Liar. j.l-- qu.-tt: mozchu.3 thi;; in till; flAir but that .,s a perLional o.r.-inion
on archituctural valuu:,_
nr. vine: it ii my CindeJrstandiriq that na6tJ savinu,, will h,-Avo cin o.iqporturiity
to itz cit.'sicir, or, t.-,Q parkin(j structure designed by
m ay cc r u - Mar :!4n't QQ tha V0r7 wul' t-*a Z'.' ijivU YOu
a -cu.-,Jation to b,.-c, nr. r)17 with col%min sturu Ou s,*,acinc 'C'
j y x
with arL, Li,,o cor.--t.aintof -,:hu buildinc-, h U a ; t or w y
tj%dt pc.. can dQ6,.,jn thib building on t��a,; J%-n,.�v/, s�) t 1. r I :j t h
dil'amnd that -L purscaially have huro. 'Now, w.-,t-ther or not we c,'11 cut through
ghat 1 don't '.naw- 1 ";ink thuru is r.c. that yovrls i.s a
1or 1 MA.'ai" tilerk'• iL ilo about that in my
01).41-1101tf )USt MY coMor, sonsc opinic.%^I. Now the: quostion now _4s
WC? IIIXA: t�) now to QUV t,'.r. Knt:.X, if you now
'41vk:: .1 ' , Comission ;�ound
ul! thc! to whet*her or no, t;'n.
a LLI,u Pk'tk'� '!, dec:t.:;:.On cta to wl'—ch o""Q O: thvSC! C"al:cicjc:6 wl4
havc: u pct.,1 . fc., ,'2) '.Jr ":htar rlv.-re. i, it con.1.1ict i*,' wu CIO t!"ar- with mr.
Lipton iarlcl .')L!*,!WQC,'1 two contractual obligaticini; that we havo c4nd '3) are
WC
agreemw�v. wit- Miami
�..% atly or t'huond 1: 'b:suv of the i.
cvnLe'.'' t I nc. Yass 4%1111zual ai'.d tho Chic4cjo bane, wiiatovor the
name of thu bank war; 1:'ucxuo _' surd would hate after five Yc::Ars of t'a-ghting
alla fJl-.L'1111 hava".'a vi';rory in :,ew YorX in thot3Q bonds wharQ %VQ '(lave -
a $!6J'0(.)L_"000 project un4uro;'y to joopar:iize I'k: b0causo we mAke a wrong
Mr. Knox. Th(' anz;w.: vc, tiie- -1irit, que.,ition, V,rayor, 1z thit th'i City vlot:;S
have: d i.urr.kt.:y a,jreemont w.Ltll t-liami Center A.,;Sociatus fothE! purpose of hav-
ing them contitruct and clulivo: a parking gar,;Ljje at a cost of :15,000,000,
That: con-r.A,::L also p.,avidos mech"nisms whereby .f certain obligation,; are not
met by e'ithor party the Contract may be-orz.,irlatod. "Ic! are not aware at t'
point that tliom is all;, rQ"son to declare that contract in breach,
.0
41N. SE, 4-,Q3
1i Z'I "j
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, that doesn't answer MY Cju(_,stion, 1".-a sorry.
Mr. Knox; You asked three ques,�;ions, oii:, I tho `rst
one.
Mayor Forre: No, 1'r, taleing Ll)o-,,t thu i lrot quuLt-ioil "rIaL; i,ot r,-;.en answered.
I need to know, the question Is doc-_- :y
obligation now to make " decision on r*,,,': cIe..Siljln Of thL! We're
,_f�yI
hearing from Wor.!�hiaq hliis aztornoy, that t*.'115 iL; c,.-,-y wav z,l
A-1 ' ant L'.) procead
feel that this 'i-hirig Inc CC' an,` ,` tney
We 0�:hCr haild
forthwith to Z-al-l'ill fait co-ntrac-c
we get fro-m it Lra,t it IL not the Cl-,:y's CIeci-,A-oii to choose
a design that that ii; his loll.:: t;,tat ha will -.:hat dticision and
if there are any a-`d.-tiznul cost':• he: wi1.1 al -).:orb t'.Ie adG.JMona l cc)st and he
has said tha.c. - h?, ,qijy and ter,,ilin-
ation, and a!l of thu G ht r z;ont;::sctuaj O;DligationS With Cui-,Ler Assoc-
iatQS. That'i the tOUg'tl dt3C11:i-LUZ-4 WL'VV 90Z
Mr. ;vlox: "AU tQ Zh,A:. C-UC!.-,1;1o11 C'*L!a tCj 41.1y
qXucstlon. t's Our c,�,ltraztu&I tatr�c_-rttnt t", iaz 'tile D Ju
ruderal ha,,-i in ccncurt or in
of -.he a,,-chitcctural o: t',%L: c 'c C -11(: rc!-.uirux,,ents
of that is s . h a 1, the i r, it adt U -.- z u r - b r; 0, a 1: lb ne, capuble
of bc:iik-y into a SL'rUc,:.%Iru r-LIr
.I will hoa tro_: su.)ursz-ruct'Ure. -o
xt(jnt that NX. Lipzor. haI5 �.n-.,ut into -- -ill-; 6usign we b 1.
,:ne L ol evt- 'that irq-,ut
is limited, if you Will, i;o t',-,o qu,btlon 0:: I'SU'r Or not
iS ChO'SLn , W 111 bE; C0,111-)at ible in ai., c,.-�hi Gin6 ','rk ii ., r
witri qa;:acj-j a,-,d tie LimyCjrtrAilt ij that 11111a:. dOCL.--;.,On 1, no. -
a unilatQral one but to be n.udo in COjjCej:t w1til the City COX1V,.`esjO-,.
Mayor Forre: All right, 14r. Ma."iacier, What Is YO',Ir -`_commend,ion?
&r. Foomoen: Mi:. Grin=. will spt;:"k for the ad,-,i1li6LrL1ti0n on 1:1-11S is-s.ukj,
. . , :; , Q n , W .1 t ,, 0'.1 t t r Y:L n Cj t C.) Mr. Vincu Griva-,,. yr. I arld
SiMI)lify th1l; dralnatlL J)rO';UCL, it cx.);w.:6 down to three 1;lajor
decisions. one io that the technical ruview 02 hotil Garages by thu city's
.L
uxpertz finds th-t the �.,-arago d(ji3icjj-,cd by FeVilaild"ll: ' is the preforred one.
(2) :s that you 'j-iavo a and. I want Mir. Wc)rshaM to get up at
zhe racrophone righ'. now and jt;atv to yo,,; that unwquivQcally 1"e Will build
his g,;,raqu to the City ::or *15,000,030, no more even if the cost goes over.
Mayor Ferro. %1z. on the record.
Xr. wors!%ar.": Mr. X"Iyor, the ans%.jer t-.0 that q,,.i(.-zit1on is yes. v.,L, havo subrlitted
plan." ana thcjv 'A-4t,vc, been PrIcod Out, w,� can build the garage
dh, a,:jsicjned with th6) Z"oundCiLiOljs for no more than the contractUal amount,
Mayor Ferro: 0 : That's a finisha�� turnkey U�idblu garage, all costs included by
February, 82?
Yx. Worsham; That's correct, 5ir. Thu aniwer is yes.
Mr. rllum:,%ur: Well, let me ask a question :Lr, that ,)"rticular Vein. Have you
gone to bids?
.Nlr. Worshazn: What we heave done, Kr. P!u;%&'_,r, IS WO L*XQCUtFjd 41 With
the 01%:y Oil :Uly 11th, i thir"A' &.-4 we than untt:r,d into a contr,,cz pur.,,uant
to t,-Q :.,Ontrcict tilar wu with tA-Au City with the ire, Hardon Company,
Hirm;n IilturniAcior,A. ou.t, of Atlantis,, Goorgill, to build the fOr 'LIt, and
the: C--'ty 'for a cost not to CXCL;;Q1! A
uilcQ and payment bond was issued by the Ira hardien 4 Company guaranteeing
that.
Mr. Plun=ur: To haw much?
Mr. For the $15,000,000.
A11'. pl=%Iler; how mucr, is the bond?
Mr. Worsham: 15,003,00c), NOW, t%.IQ, co-ft
coot:;. Now Lhu Clty
Lo P!CQ in ordCr
to sell its bonds Or. Aucya3t %.i ar.G I_: w:lr. Wu z` V. r n i S
been Warkinc, with the Ira i-lor."aany CAUr!AJ t;*,U 0
arzher"ncc
and ti,ey have -Ijeor, rric_nc Ol;t Cityls
cost Qstimizors :,"tu t".at thc., P:Obab'e c"t 0" $15,000,000, and
that's why Mr.
Grimm is put�c.irg l;lc: oi; a.,
believe that we will build that garage for�$a3-,000,000 ,.nrsl:a:;c l.i our carnmit-
ment to do so.
Mr. plumuner:
Deno is the bond ck,ldt>.
Mr. Worsham:
City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer:
Not to 23arl Wars;racl or ,viara Capital?
Mr.. Worsham:
That's correct.
plurrsler:
So in ogler words blr. -i,--on nau used t;ic which
says that your garage is $15,680,000, it. is fully understood *-,y ;ne that if
that is corrupt you've just eaten S660,000.
:Ir. 4;or;hsl:
if that turns out to be correct, sip, t'r.at'S ccr�ect.
1•Sayor Ferre:
Otiay, you've got u t;lird point, A: Gril;x-
,'.i . Grin;,: ii;e third point puts the monk,::y a little bit on the carxna, ;sion':i
Z:ac}-.. That 1S that: thCy must YecOCjni"Lel approval of 41t:isr 6o,,ign will
requir,Y that they approve a ruvlsed standard for Cuff-S"'reuL Parking stalls
in the ycir"ye-
:hu'yC Y. F tire: it:L, we understand that but that's -,or- c, mal`oz .`.iin, j anywa;1.
:•ir. �i�].:�ir;,: ic0, C.IId ..:6 G, Ciar.r- GE fCAct It i:3 all in w;.Lh Oci:t
COn�llltutit' o :@C:Urw'li:iiUd'WiOn.
muyo:. i't_Y.i , li C' ij.t i':.. La axe UJ Or, ha:. onkC ;.a waw, ary YOU
aware of that are Lo7.'t1i4o.11ing On the 25th ozz this :T.:)nth
to dlCer the Ui Whether little cars ana big cars and all that utuff?
v12'. Idl al'r:. i,35, ilt:, Visit L'1Llilitr �r'l h tilat,
:day�r F rro: Are YOU in agri:e:'ient with wf.a't 1.6 going to be ri:corrT.enued?
B'Sw: WQ11, it--'tuall`,/ Cho reCommendatior, from our con;iultal;t would be
eVC;, a lil.tic: bit IUSS 5trin-gent than what those roconlondations are.
see:. Okay, so they wouldbe acceptable to yau7
Elr.
mayor ; T'vu got no probli nmz. Okay, any other statumewits, questions?
Mr. i J" Oti: 'i'iie Off-S:.rC:et Parking Authority gF,vu a long l::st of items
wh1C:, wore CCt1C1C?:lwic3+ in bOL;, Of the designs. i know tnaL -do -eve resolved
wit': thv 0:'L-Street Parking F.uthority all of ,:he deficiencies tha4 they
brought up cone urninr' Gar e'iusi(yn. S h, 'vz n.j" ;;6en a .dt: t os plarts Tor the
FerIlandinO dCBign 'thWL r".L,::tS tnoa % t.hin z:. i wou.1C1 like ti:o caution reliance
On a bond when no set of puns or descri,: tiUn of the btliidincr iv ai t4,Cl?vC. to
vlaycl 1'er.%. All .'ight, S thank butts ciYC:I:.: UC:t i !'IUL'Iiu fi' llla`e : I:tO L.10
rucorci that col,,pl.ieln;c: with the Conrad rtC;OliLitLliClaCiOriS and criticiolls F1.8
part and of any approval on either sid,..
ter.. Crir::n; Mr. Mayor, uxcuso me for a rlini;r-o for interrupting. ; don't think
.'..sir. AboUt h,,Il: of l':.«'aCi'u re COI1IMOnd<ltlons 'hozu ti Chnical design
h.ilf war,. ..i wish iisc. Wu cannot Obligate either pi:r:ion
t(, Slll)j:ly ti.l: '4i .11 list - thU tell>Vi:;:ion item iS an example alone, w�? g%iess It
at about $400,000. Wt-- will work to ,ill the things that the Off-
Strvvt Parkiny Authority 1�-Ods to make it oparatu.
Kr. Canau.ilel: HUWvvur, Air. ,Kayo„ ]: would like to add that we have gone in
writ.ing un record :iayln(7i that we: navo incorporated the requirements as well
as ti;e wls1, list.
Mayor 'Perrot You have incorporated, now is that on the record, Mr. Worsham?
Mr. Worsham: This is or, the record', :-1r. Mayo,:a, and it is very important to
distinguish between the requirements and the wish list. The wish list which
is a cost wish list is not part of the $15,000,000.
0 t
Mayor Ferre: All right, let me say that I'm only talking about the re-
quirements, not the wish list,
Mr. Worsham: That's correct, sir. The requirements arE incorporated but
not the wishes.
Mayor Ferre; Is that accalitable to you?
Ar,Fredenberg: bir. Mayor, in this document I gave you there is a memo in the
back that itemizes or responds to every comment made by the Off -Street Park-
ing Authority......,.
Mayor Ferre: That wasn't the question, sir, the question is.... go ahead.
The question is to you or to Mr. Lipton. Will you incorporate all the re-
quirements of the Conrad criticism or critique if you will?
Mr.-rredenberg: My point is yes, we will incorporate them, we have revised
our drawings to reflect them following a meeting with Mr. La Baw last week.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, thank you. Now back to you, Mr. Grin=, you still have
not answered my ruustion to tine Manager when he said, ".Mr. Grr.r m will answer
for the administration," My question is what is your recommendation.
Dir. GLS1Ta7; That Ore go ahead and approve the FerL:ndino garage and get to work.
Mayor Ferro: Okay. what is the will of this Commission?
Mr, Plummer; The will of this Commission iz that we stick with the agenda.
We've discussed it and reviewed it, now let's go to Item "B".
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer is expressing that this Commission should not take
any position, now that is contrary to what Mr. Grimm is recommending and I
happen to subscribe to the administration's position on this personally.
Mr. Plummer.: well, mr. mt,yor, let me just for one., atatu to you, I think it
.is great to have wis'n lists, I haven't seen it, have you? I don't know what
is on it, nobody has furnished me a copy of it. I.- you're asking me to vote
on $15,000,000, baby, you'vu better hive me every piece of paper that is in-
volvud and I haven't got them.
Mr. Grimm; Well, Commissioner, I'll take responsi')ility of that, I did not
submit that letter to ,you on purpose and the reason was that without both
sets of plans and a detailed explanation the letter by itself is very dif-
ficult to follow. You have to kr:ow the plans inorder to follow that list
but I'll be happy to give you a copy of it.
6L. Plummer: Fine.
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, it seems to me that
having heard, and I'm not professional, Mr, Griiiw is and the architect here
and the architect over.* here, it _,•tcoms to me that if what we've heard is what
is and based on what we have buen saying right along I don't see why we don't
proceed, Ana we have the greatest capacity for delaying. I move you, sir,
I move that we accept those gentleman's contract and move on.
Mayor F'erru: All right, is there a second?
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mr. Plummer; I invoke the rule and I don't want to, but I'm forced to.
Mayor F'c:rre; Okay, there is an invocation of the five-day rule and techni-
cally I'm afraid that Mr. Plummer is right. ThQ re is nothing on this agenda.
Now, I, as you %now, unuGr the Charter have the right to call an emergency
session for anything but I think that would be an abuse of than power, Mr.
Plurraner, and I will not do that. ,I will respect your five day invocation of
the rule.
Mr. Plummer; Now, Mr. Mayor, let me state for the record I will be happy
to deal witli this matter in the a -ternoon, we're going to be here i bet you.
w;til midn:'ght, if thu adrur:istrattion provides to me and I +ope every member
of this Commission all o;: the matters ncrtainincj to this subject. I'll be
happy to deal with it this &,fternoon but I am not dealing with $15,000,000
until I have all information,
Sr p 151900
Rev. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I have no probl(:m in this i;,,attur this
afternoon. If the proper procedure is we may d:, it this afternoon let's do
it and if you invoke the 5-day rule I'm ,loin.) to ;cake a motion that in five
days we call a meeting for that purpose. I juor- think around here we have
the greatest capacity...
Mayor Ferro: you don't have to make 'Chat wo'-ion, as the 14zi /r)r 1 will Call a
meeting in fivu days 'out I think t:',he3 point, neve:rthaless, is chat 1 think
Commissioner plumr.,cr's request is an appropriate one, I have no problerns with
it. I'll tell you I as,, by training an architectural engineer and I'm going
to tell you that I don't want to qe-t involved in the very very complicated
technical. world o;: parkin, consultancy. I think we have peopla that know
those, that live day in and day out in that world and I'm not going to make a
technical decision on a wish list, that's something that has to be hammered
out between technicians who know what the hell they're talkinr, about.
Mr. ,Fine: yr. b;aycr, nay I have a moment just to see if I can clarify Mr.
pl,.LT,mer's concern or perhaps the Co„�„fission?
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Fine: blr. Plummer, it is my understanding t:,iet all of the requir0mionts,
t
tile eiu4ntii1l requir��m'�nts set fort!-, i�;/ CU:,:u.:. iin�7 t15:;JCict'i.i;S lhiuVe bt'e:hTd�t
and will be ful.fillea within the $15,000,000 bonder. agrecrien: by :diu;T.i Center
hSsociates. e2) it is also my understai',ding, and I b- .LIiuv,u Yx. Gr.L LT: repree;-
ented to you and .fir. ors•ham .' s now repzc!sunti ng to you that the dish list
is not'olit'nin tho. scJ)Q of the $15,000,1,-J03 ,.mat anyti,ing i St. �',clt 1T,all cJv.C.
from the consultant as bui.ng desirable Qr necesz;ary would be above that....
,Mayor Ferro: Mr. Fine, e}:cusp' mu, that's not what your �irc'nituct Sciia just
a mom,ant ago. Novi which statcme:nt are wa ;going to accept, your statement or
his statement? Because Mr. Cardella said that the television monitoring sys-
tem in the wish list was incorporated in the; $15,000,000.
Mr. Fine: 1'ne telavisian system is.
Mayor Ferre: 47c11, r.i.cn your statement isn't totally accurate.
Mr. Candella: ,`Sr. Mayor, in the design of the: building there is a network of
a system where you'rc going to run cables and conduits, etc. Th:: specific
uquipracnt that your purchase is not here right now. We cannot say something
that is not Y,ere. However, throughout the: duct work, the chases, the slabs
and tha locations of the iuilding we have all of the provisions for all of the
typical systems.
mtYor Ferrc: All right, this item will be taken up then this afte:rnoor. unless
anybody else has any other 'thought;,. Well., it will have to be very late in
t:,e af:ernoun, I would say it would be a..ter five O'Ciock.
ms'. Worsham: = :have to : ,3et: with Mr. Guand:,:.•. I had a 12 O'Clock flight,
we havo a closing of another bond issue in New 'lark that is taking place right
now at Brown Wood, Ivey, so if you don't mint:, sir, I'm going to call t;ew work
and find out it my presanau is needed, it it is not. I will certainly be There.
I may have to Sc, to Nev,York.
Mayor Ferro- 1 would bu grit(: ful if thos4 of you ?:at Firu , I would ?.TAG to
see it there its any wuy that we can get some c.:n';p.atib l ity here: betw,+e n all
these :;icier;, as?uciaily .lou, Mr. bmost grateful it in the
inte;rvenizeg time you could nu:cat with the principals of Miami Center and have
perhaps a di:hcus!Aon Az to which way you're going.
Mr. Lipton: I did not unciurstund that this conflict that you allude to existed.
Mayor Fuz're: H'e11, you 411ust :saw it. I didn't create it.
Mr. Lipton: 1'7e.li, I have ta.lkod to Kr. Worshc.xn on a daily basis and accepting
or refut:,inrg to accept the 'Pe-- desi.g) was not something that was ever explained
to us that that waa evon comin•J to the Commission.
Mayor Ferro; Mr. Lipton, do you talk to Mr. Tisset at all-,,
Mr. Linton: Yes.
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Mayor Ferre: Mr. Tisset called me I think it was Thursday or Friday and I
told Mr. Tisset exactly what I thought woes h,;apening since he took the initiat-
ive to call me, if you had called me I would have told you the same thing.
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And I told Mr. ':if;set to Call you and to dis.:USS ti;_:; wi'•.ii yo.l lei:e
sure that you wore aware of what I thought was nuppr:ning. Now _tic: aYr. 'Pisset
call you or not?
Mr. Lipton: Not to tell me that, no.
Mayo: Ferro: He didn't tell you this?
Mr. Lipton: No, I talked to tar. Grlrnla.
Mayor Fcirre: ao, 1'Qi :1r:1nC! about ti..%:. li0sL:t. L)id Mr. 2iss,'t _call you over
this last three or four Gays to --ell you that there w;as a Cvt.:11Ct• arising
and. that I thought t;,]t this Was Sorii thing that was going ::o ho. d;,_Cidid d on
Monday and that 1 thought it Was very .important that you bec;or.e involveu ill
the final decision In ttllig process cfithe;r way and that you coda:: _f possible
united with Xiami Center: Associates a;,d iz not to co„.e wish a vary s_roa�
position. Now, uvidehtly either i•ir. `.i'is.,,et did not Call you or he did Call
you,and the'message did not come across that clearly. Now I';;, sorry.
a%ir. Lipton: Nc,, I'ri, :;arry Ust 4idl n,:,t und(:rsi:andl tilt: c,Ie Z.,rocr.dure
and the parallel design has been something that trie City zl&:zniutration has
been aware Of, I have called Mr. FosmOe1% On a Couple 0 oc:czAsiO ,s ;an, hot
gotten a return of my y,ho u call. I did not know t0 tellK to you, id liOt
thin:, that thi s was anything but a d: nllili:a:all ' � Chat aJ': h .-,Q-
1 � r. �d. 7ac;.•::r � :u
sighs are accuptal)le and that if we wish to spend an ac.iitional
on th,: ,3ar&ge 1 do not Understand Wiaat th,•s City' GA)dCtl Jai i to us L;;.und-
1n`'J that money unless the g,nxaga ddl3ic7:, is Una(:Ci.:Jta;)le. That's tho l;sUu,
C}ldt' S Why I do,-, I Ic uE'e a Con::li.c"c bacauziu Mr. 4 Oli;}ia , knows; that we're ;1o%n(J
to pa, the difference and he doesn't get hurt that way,
Ma!,or Fc!r:rc: What we have h"e, 1"ar. 11i2t0111, is the rUCOr(la(',datlon :r.OM Our
CXperts, Conrad AL-Locl"tes and the: recommen-dation of zhe Off -St reel, marking
AutilOrity t} at this parking garage is a much more accoptable and a much mhore
functional design.
i�ar. Lip`:on: I did;i't see that stated in the lcttur. area a`aid lire i: dare:ncc: but
it did not say much more. It was not that large a difference.
Mayor FcrrG: i`1e.:11, I stand corrected on the use of words.
Rr. 'sell, what the wording Was, .and Mr. Mayor, I did no:. yet into
it at ".1-lis til:le: wh1C;, I Wa.; (JOir'.(y to Wait but now that it is bro; cht up lot
lTi CO. it was, aAn operational, functional and more practical desigr, I t}',ink
W_s t .c word:; used. Graf of the: thl.ng; I think 'chat we should be taking as
key cons ideratiori which has not over, been brought ul) hone today is that this
garage w,.) .i`, going to be operated by the Off -Street Parking Authority
eventa;tlly is a key to the success Of the overall Convention Complex: because
of revenues. Now, if the people who are going to be generating or help to
generate those revenues are telling you they are both aceeptabla but we pre-
fer this one because we feel it is easier, a better working flan, I wanz to
tell you that's hua�,nf anu that hasn't been brought Out here and I wasn't
going to brine; it out until, this :aftE:rnoon but i.t is a key to me because the
very success, the financial Success depends on as One segment the rd:vei.UU
;:Jr, the C:ara(ye. MY•. XayOr, I would only :'t:.;uest, is would hope that :since
the urgency is nere and has been e%pressed, I have not seen any resolution,
thero is :'lone in my packet and l Would hope ti-tet this Coxnission in thE:
interim between now and this afternoon, wou'lci have some kind of resolur.iorl
which we, the. Comm-Ls5ion, can study and comply with the law which says it is
be.cre all C0mn11ssiOnur5 and copies eAre available to the public so that when
we vote -this afternoon we comply with the law.
Rev. Ga.t:;on; :will we ,aC;'VLO n,c thest, men will-------------
Muyur Ful:ru: WC! Will Ineat at S O'Clock.
Rev. Giboon: Please, so that you %now -------------
Mayor T would be very happy, Mr. Lipton, if you, I hope you could Zome-
how worn t;Omi traing cut. with Mr. Ti:set and I hope you Ca:. work uUilvT.iliny OUT.
With Mr. worsnam.
Mr. Lipton: ,tial, 14ayor, is that is a condition....
Mayor Forrc: No, it isn't a condition, that's a hope.
Mr. l.ipr.on: ...them Wu are: wit':drawing .from the projdact if that is a condition.
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Mayor Ferre: 110 air, -cA-tat is not a cona iti �),l lc;nc,-pu
1 hope, All right, we'll see you this afternocin.
D S C j S S 13.1,. SCORE 0 A I:Z' D T.�•k, � 0
STADIUM - REQUEST I.X.PRCVLz-,'/,ENT OF EX15-I'liNG FACILITY.
Mayor Ferro: have two that r-nembers of the pruzz *A-AavQ asked ine if
we could aC;Qcjurai;Q a,-,d t',-Iuv a.-Q the Scoroboard or, thu oranc;e Iiowi zinc! the
designation of Xliara as a bi-linguctl city. I wcLild respectfully ask that Chief
liarms and the Police Deparr-men�, Idr. Xrauso, th:.- do:;ign of the Gov,:.rn,,,,,ent Con -
ter Trarisitt Stau-ion, the ZDA Budcjut and the- vacancy bo held back. until we can
get those t`qo itums that are ev.Lderitly of szromj pu:;lic izlteri:�jl� Over with.
A11'rig"t, we will then tak up Item "F" which is a Gizcussion of the new
scoreboard in zhi: Orange Bowl.
Lacasa: Mr. t-lavor and Of the Cor,-,mission, the quez,:Ion of the
sCcrL.noard at t
jr;� Orange Lowl that 1 1,ringinq to your cztQntion, --he ques-
ti,)n of the ora,%gu B,)Wl is C�aslcally this: For years tli*,Au COMMUnitV, t - n o
dolpnLns all," t - no City Of Miami have-. bk:un co-,,,plaininq of ti,e very poor. facJ 1-
itic;!; that a:, tar a5 zhu SCOrebOilYd is 1'.;O:lcQrlled we 'navc clam zha Orange
lie City Of mia-xii ontoru-into a;', agru�--,til Dolphin:;
V;.Qw of thizi, t, L I
order z;o *.,)rovide botzui: kicorcboard facilities fcr at t,lt. Orancic!
eja; uo,,je and we nave now a Contra,:t "q.*Lt',l the Zolpi'.Ins wh-.C'1-' pro-
vide:z, for tho Dolphins to Aivailcu the monwyrz. to pt;ty foe th,- installation of
the soor(-Ijoar'i ,.s tC. bo operitod Jy the Ci,.:.v of inz. ,.,lush llihCc
the C06-; o'- thc Bowl scoreboard is advortisQd with t"10 T)rOcUcd.,; of
the moncys that were oy thu Dolphin:; 4,1,1v1.n( ' I rQen
rccuj-Qratad by t*no ,,-, th,�the prol"its from the advert.isin,j would, ba,
jub4oct to SXtlo CIttnor --xr)en,.�es 6ivided In tw,�,, 1,alt' -
) �Or thu City
xia,-i and one half -;hc: The has I)won c;orjp.Lctod
ant now t1mc Do:phi-inLi who e,--Q acivurtising agent: for the !,corubo,,rd, and
as such they cp:-�C, 15� -,lut on the cost of tlo Ljdvertjsjlj,j, jhave
for th4 advui:tising On the corebojird for
z.ho nex,- includinq this one at the rat--, Of $2F-,0,000 r so son,
Very brie.` flc'*Ur---s will Come basically to r-hese nu;,-,berz;. The City :if
will ge-L cjros:, of j116,000 share from the cost of the adverti!ainq. If you
deduct a;,)o-wt 5-2:�,000 in interest expenses o,i the moneys that the Dolphins
et;:e advancoci Guv net f o111Ci be $66,000. The Dolphins would get the same
$116,000 less 4;)out $3J,000 inzQrost plus $42,000 co=,ission, the 15% corl-
r-'ris.'Or, or, $2EG,000 their net would be about $12.6,000 this first year and
then there wcjuld 1)e All anticipated minor expense of about $6,000 cost of
000rat::%43 tho fa.:ility and this amounts to �280,000. For the second year
the figures will slightly because, now we have the advance moneys by
the Do! iphin:; could 6o am.ortized in about one year and a half - th(lze are
rough f:lquros .1 - �bo)at or,n year and a half, r-tio-cefoxo, the interest cost on
the second yc4:l: w:.:.1 h"If the $30,003 ft,-r z'.3e City of Miami. and half the
;,30,000 for the Dolphins, ;., othu-,c words $13,000 each so the City of MJami
net will incru-,AFu to $101,3CO ana tine L<)Iphinz, net will increase to :;1'.'3,000.
From there 041 thuxo won't be any inturo.-.t exi * *)c,.,-,ses, the Dolphins would have
no invustinicnr- whutsoQvur ir, zl,-Ic scoc(;board bQca,.ise they woul,-,, h-nvo now
rQcuncriatQd in ant: year an6 a half their fu'.1 -',,440,000 advance moneys and
from tnert, on th(. net to the City oMiarr,` will be approximately
versa: yla::,00G for the Dolphins. At the ere of the 7th season contract
the: t`)O',)hi115 W,.)UlU have netted $1,061,000 and the City of Miami would stave
nut-,;Qd $767,0OC,. SO ZlCtUiAlly 1LhV-SC %.guru-s show that it i.s a treMMdouS
il*.',/Lj.jt.MQllt, i. prof:t.,.. for the Dolphin.,, with pract-
W , r&,iL;,CjuVt;;r. But the questi.on that I zLr,l bringinc, up
t.cj you., a.- btsic:ttlly how much rg;noy the Dolpn-As ji!-L� yG.Ir.� *
to r.1k1'k.(: 1..)Ut %.."itAt I.i zr.,.: City of Mic4-,d and the fans at the orcAnqc Bowl
Ctl'u (7,Qlt.Lroj rur Cn,. Zh,4L the: DO!43hIns 71re An
'On(who has
1well to tilt' Orzvtge "lowl Would h,:tvu zieen the kind of improvement that;
h,aL bUel) Mt:100 (�;'. T4-40Y basically cc-t-,sLsu of a wordin( '; l.Lne
Ot- T-wo flatadvert: seL; 'r,asically the Dolphin games, the sale -
listen ,to t . r, 3 .. onu - the of the tj.cketli for the Strikers w"i.ich has
'th.,;O1ute`y to d5c) with thu, 'Orange 9ow.1, and the L,ju Of t,,,,E ;),o Macja-
"inu that the Out at t-Q '-3
Owl - vory mdnimal if any
StZAti-'tiG--.'L has beer, -.Tiv(:n through the use of r_;-10
scoreboard
hainfo�njud ricl at hls request
the Dolphins have jr0V1-"(-'Q V,.;.Vy lir-L.IL: If arty ",*,d in the ----irst games they
did not provide, cully -t;Atizzic,;a 50 w . e "lave th,lt of ,:he very
little improvement, t1l,:c ::he scoreboard has received basically what it -as
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done is to improve tiie prcmoticnal C-LA'd-ili-Cy 01 f'0: OVIr, r;l:';:jfit
making enterprise, I hav(:.- oive;
to You ai P-0'G'LO_'.)Y C" C' Univer-
sity newly installed Lcorc!l-,oard which or
this one but 1 havc.- adciitional L Y':)'� 0 Tni S
compares with what we ',%,;tvi: wi-,n
.... You could sue here and corzr-pafu with What We h,1vL' alr 'r-AU Uraii ji Li.:Jwl. The
difference in the quality and tile difference in kin_- cf z:h,it this
scoraboard providos to wth rjuc it the
Orange Bowl is tit: b;ing to
your attentic" is '.'iau" Z . ;'116 brand
LJ nq -:he City `01'
new about $'4,b0,000. rl":iu Doip'ni4,j arc: c:*`
couple of Irdnirt'Al to (.)%Ilr Bowl scor4_).)&I,, W:,IaT- 1
all rc!questinq tnu City -r-C, CIO tc, in--l-ruct clzy Lo 1:cV.Lew
this Situatir'n thL, Dolp,ins to liq)rovc: the scort3bozir,7 facility at tho orange
Bowl to a thar. W'-a'- 10fliCIL UriVer.31ty
il; 1.3t2tLi,-4Q EGyiG(J,Ul7�)tli:All WfSat Wt; 14rl: p.iylx'(; fc;:. his
l"Lori(a iv'Ze 4 fc'ut
i ni t 0 2 f e 2 t t 'I. I .j q c: z r, r, A n C.) w z,.-- at It
,,;L! a-D111L w"S Ct)"'�-"LutQd In "(j6o.
t;jQ '1%,AVL ah C';�)y ot tnis corL�ac:t was
int.c., hi- ?SU and z*.-IQ .)n A--)ril 21, so it hC'5 not tLE3YtC1 the
of inflation in WJL-.h t'ne Orunn",3o".1L So,
thiat -L"lu "_'.`1-'7 'a:; 1 tid.LG bu.fOrc, instruct
tir'strucz, -�'Q
f "te CiL7 -.h-
0 tilZ' r -
t., -,:',,u nOt. to
ri.-;u..i ',:o cjiVu 1.'*1L"')_'*".1" 10 i" c3C,
to the C'::ancjij arc: not so Mucci
11:1" t'-e for z'nc Li:. We a.,:C; 1r't%'.j:U.SteQ ii'l
0-1 DL6 wu..' :4S (4.X.e6 frOV.', OL"'tur
wlt;% thu, 11rformat.ior, Allout cja:�.e t dt is
tl%at aria goinc; On z"l-it -chc:
;:-,ure that WE ire gettinc3 what aru Zoi: ,:hut mean tf.ut wu S'AGUICI
get a Saorutboarcl that i." riuch COr.,t-,1Qtt! thlhi', W%' haVL now
Bo'/'.1 the City is in t*:a-'
$0,000 we're '�oJi.-C] '�O zakc-, i%: n 11L, 7 scasons .;oi-LtrcAC;z cz ac .
70lvu.'.zisunent coul(-.
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iIe SIAC-fi"'IC:0d -1:0 CA CQL' Za` (�,!L buz.to�: facilitl'Qs h'y Lli
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till: s�j' �_ha*': ar,� c,7)1-.ncj tc, iTtke thc�-iu, 7 seasons
d allso be sacrif-.cod ii-, orl4er zo 90-t ��,u ,,n o,.i'I c' burter scoreboar6
Mayor W'_;11, 'Yo*_ h,vu rl r.o-,.Lor. an". 1'11 fo;:
a $ccon` but 1 11.1vc- al with L,it:' sucon", portion of your 'r"Otion. 1 L'. th LD r e
6L iCCCnC. to th.r. r,ot,-
on sL:cond?
Mr. Carollo: Could Please?
Mx. LacaLa: in,: :,,,otion is to illijtrUcr the cit-N I I. zo (jo and ni:gotizlte
-Lho Do- -'hins could C: -C to a
W.: _.;'l -1 L! D 0 L j) 0 ✓C -i Z:1
btrttter dt'--sign, a butr_(;Ij1CO_1u11)0:tr:I' i.r.nrove '-.'hOsL' facilitia.li ev,:n if it implies
t'-, ex-,:,��,,nd c, bit more -,joj,,ey o-f zhu profits thaAt Goth the City wind tInc.
Di:)l,.-jhi.n:3 arc ,c to xt�.aku a-,,d trsecon, part is to instruct the of
the 6corc;board t,rL," the �,-corvboard is '.*,Ot fo.'c rz"-;,-� adv%'rt161ng Of the private
enterprises of the but to -rovi-(, the fans With statistical in.':O:ration
of tht. gave and other games 017 the Nl'-L.
M,ayC,r ?Qrru; All right, thcrc 4S a MOtiOn, it' 'C--10rC a SecOn"? All zig'ht, ';ec-
ond(1-4 by Gibson. Un,ur diL-;uuzsior,, Xr. Lc.Icatiuo 1 you'v,: Come up
1i; VUry wit" your cor1c+;.'p-Z. anc" I congrat-
ac foycur i do dis&(JrQe wit'n 0:1CL'tt�MQnz you You
ma' . %-,ng any money.
I wanz
said L C."ty of MizQ"',i s r, -D v. i bu:a. -6s o_
th,:: 111011,_`7 zl',-,t WtJ a116 ilaVU 'nadc! in the rjranG: bowl has
a c c Ii j t. G ,:nt: :tnd tc; c,*,c ;*,.-:n:)rOver,,.,rts of th"z ::,:icL_1iT_y "ncl Leiaz -C.11Q
Oci hc-,Vd h
t., i f.! :'C! V. zzj.., tJuyisr5 any riiono, y zhat t 7
iAr(-' VUry ::OY Z:10 U-) 1'.iaintonanco and iz""provene:'t of -"-je sta':iujr;
, I j (_. t C) V1*1'_' th.lt WE! ShOUIL', iT%1?r0VU till; ;;it'll L91'. but
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(1011't ZA(jreQ With LhL ekL",!_lUct that we shlotlldn't be m4xing any rt!venuu 1-rom it.
NLr. VA."'tt 1 riloan by ""t ":h(. City Of to riot in t'he bus-
01.7 j)r0fj.L, el.r. Mayor, is not that: we shoulC not gut
to ')V(, tho Bowl, actually that is rrcc;.:;ely an,
wc.-
tnotie ."700,000 to lx.'OrovC .n':: SCOrL
fr'Ua1'4 is, U.11-aiL t-."r1Q City o iL not l.li tlhe uU5ine3 3 of
to mllk(., profit bu-, to u:io wiriatevoc revcnue';, 4t Prot lt6, 17E;VLn"C3 Woru
for it., W.hatovo".1 We C.An tjet III OrQul ';.O Z.no facilit-
0 ; th'u t ' L, r v, :fie C i t i f U 0 y a afla tn15 Con-
versely, t'."w not dk*)_I",; 20, L'41U
that whatever moneys t.ney muki: are not revenueL; Tnat iS L':,E? ui:.-
ference between what we make, We don't male Drotlt, wc. have raven,,ie:; to ir„prove
services - the Dolphin:; as a private company have profit:; for own personal
interests. I have no problem, with that as long a:, it does not affect the ser-
vices that we are to provide.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are there further statements, questions? if not, call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Corvi-dssioner Lacasa who moved
its adoption:
bfOTION NO. 80-623
A NOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY Nwr.NAG P. TO GO AND NEGOTIAT! 4ITH
THE DOLPHINS SO BOTH THE CITY A,''ID THE DOL?H!1,4 COULD JOINTLY
DESIGN A BETTER SCOREBOAFD AD:D O 14'41PROVE T:iE Sr.-.r 'EVILN �i? iT
IMPLIES SP',,NDING N.ORE :4O\r''I Fi20M BOT:.i OF TidEIR Pi OF'ITS. A,,-D
FURTHER r^^: QUEST]:NG THE ADMINISTPATI&N TO INSTi<UCT `I'HiE 0v—,R.yTG'ty
07 THE SCORF:LOA .D .-HAT TEE ECO'r.EPOA:_i IS NOT rOR THE ADVLRTISiNG
0r THi: ELATE RPPI .;.S 0!" THE �OLPiiINS BUT TO Pi�.OVIDE THE F30T a UhLL
FANS WITH STA'.'ISTICAL !NPORb1AT ION, COINC'E-104ING F'GGTBALL GAi-L,7S .
Upon being sucondec 'r,y Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passad and
adopvcd by the foliowing vote -
AYES: Cor,,missioner Joe Csrullo
Commissioner J. L, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore Gibson
Vice -Mayor Azmando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
NOES: None.
01, ROLL CALL:
bir. Plummer: I cola you So. toy vote hasn't changed since two years ago.
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3. DDCLA%L CITY OF tdi,� ;1 AS Gi' 'i CY �.L'l A R%U. fNCi:;l'.i. CITY �/`�.
S';IPi.ii,1,TIi1G AS a'iiL %:CG::D OFFICi.'L LAINGOA:ii.
Mayor r'erre: We now are on item number "I". mx. Carollo
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, of the Commsuion, I believu that by now
you all have: copies of the rosoluttion that's declaring Miami a
hiling,ual and bi-cultural City that 11rr. presenting today. Fven though
the County presently ha , a resolution declaring Dade County to be,
b..11 ngu:al and Cl.l-Cultural; thL. City of "'ii:lmi naj :it:•ver � ii: iClally
taken that stancc. 1 think now is the timu to Corrtu forth and act with
courage and do what i5 best for our c"om,,niani>y. am presentintj
a resolution today declaring Miami a bilingual and bi-cultural city.
,-,a70r Furru: till r1C�ht, there 1$ a motion hoforu US, just for tint:
record, let me read it into, a resolution a !7ilin uul
and City where the English rind SI)anio'n lan(T la,,iu are found
tJ thrive and Co -exist successfully. Vurther, welcoming visitors from
Spanish :;poaki.ng countries and looking foiward to the day when visitors
and nlurchants from Africa and A�;ia will Come to Our cUrrnunity
in ecival numbers thereby i:urthor enriching' our cultural mix and
oancrit>uti.on to the economic :;tinding of the City of Miami. Is there
c( second?
b,r. I.:AU11Sa: Mr. J,.tyor, 1'6 11ko to second th(.: motion, and at trlu same
t.imc I'd ii.ke to offer an amendment.
Mayer V e r r u : All right, wait a minute...
Mr. hOt me go :,tub. by step, mx. Mayor, okay';
b,ayor F'or: c: ; tq,: have a motion and a second and now I recognize you for
the purposes of amending the motion.
Mr. Iacasa: Okay. On April 16, 1973, the Dade County Commission passed
a resolution where it says that Dade County is declared as bilingual
and bi-cultural, where the Spanish language is considered the second
official language. As the first pert o my amendment, I would like to
include tho.;e words in there, that the Spanish be considered the- second
official language also in the City of Miami. But now...
Mayor Ferro: Wait, wait, does the makes of the motion acce t that as an
amendment.
M.r. Carollo; I think that's clear in the motion, 1f he wants to a%7d
that on even though it's char, I have no problems with that.
Mayor Ferro: All right, the maker of the motion has no objections to
that addition.
Mr. Lacasa: okay. Now, actually, up to November 4, up to NoVCmber
4 of this year, the: City of miami is bilingual because under the
:tome Rule: Uf Dade County, this resolution that was passed in 1973, covers
any .incorporatGa municipalities, So, in my mind, what we're doing here
i:i sort of a symbolic gesture that will make pretty cicar that for a
City Lhat has fifty-eight i:.ercQnt of its permanent residents speaking
S,.lanish, there is no question in my mind, as Corunissioner Carollo exolained,
that th•ia; City should be bi-lingual officially, since it is 'bilingual
in rwt:urc: and bilinguc,l in i_acc. But this taker me to my second
propo:.it•.ion in order to amend this; motion. And this is to make, it something
mri r(: meanlnciful and maro practical and 'easy to implement. 1 do believe
that .lrl this C11y wrli0h we /-lope :e;; going to be declarec; independently
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Air. Lacasa (continued) . v1i1C; :a; • u :ii-C':1' ul.... 'le C._'L1' Mc.r-igor,
the head of this City should a --so bu n1-ll.r,��aai cknd r)1-cultural. And
this is nothing but the natural.. ,extending naturally the L,-.pact o;: the
resolution so wu have, r.hat this fifty-eight percent ;.)lus the floating
population of the City of Miami, and by t:h:,t I mean the tourist and the
buisness trades t:l' t comj.:. to r.hl:i City iia i thu avvantage.' of having
insured that our. administration will bu ill,ujhly sen:;it'ive: to both the
Spanish speaking ability and the bi-oult;lral. undurstandanq :7y our
highest mer,ber.s G t:ii: hClrlinliltlat i.ri. And thurufort", I and
I offer this anieridmurit that the City Manager ability to be bilingual
and bi-cultural be included in your motion.
Air. CA::ollo: ,mr. t-%yor, i Cion't like 'to ir,LX 5.:ilau with c:,iO.un manure...
Air. Plumi.(Sr: fir. Carul lO i`' out Gr orduY. sure an :i1;1E f,G , rit and I
not heard a GCcond. So Lo speak on soxi uhinq i:hat has not been
seconded, it could be sup(erfulou:;.
A:ayor. Ferre: z%l ri.;ht, is thure a soco:,ci to. ..;u6t for h•_ pu_poses
now of kCEi.lilij It under parlimcnLaty Lulu, tr",,�;rC: la a 'motio'l, tnC t:O is
a subbt.itutc, I'm sorry, there is an am"ndt;ci notion. Lk7C;; �.iiu seconder,
I'm sorry, does the: makor of tho, motion accept t'r.c arr�n;;lr,ent7
�:r. Carol'lo: NO, A:r. biayU. for the 0;.vp1.0 reaC;On th:i ; 1:; cj3inr, on
into i.,nothcr motion, that t;hGuld bu placed by itself and nc.t n-'ixed with
this ru5olut:Lon. I thin, ti,:i:i resolution should go to the, :)Dint too
what 1L was ;;toted and if additional resolutions want to raado, they shoula
ba made 2)y themselves and not mix,ad wiL,-i this resolution.
`:ayor Fcrrc: i:; tn': ru any sec.,onJ to the amC.•nQUd nlGtiol', j?r,::;iuIttud
t•ir. :.acaoa. All right., hc::ring nonu, t;tC:n tht: r„ot.oi, :.tar.ds as it
pruvl,�usly stood. : s thuru further discussion on the motion a:; presented.
Mr.Plummer: oh yeah.
rather Gibson: ;Gr. Mayor...
biayor i'crrL!: Yes, sir.
Fa'cher Gib:;on, 1 :,av,:: 3oiau reed, real concerns and problems. I hope;
my brethc:ren who sit on th.`:i COnvnission will do an awful lot of thinking
and pondering in Choir hearts and minds before they offer legislation.
I find iL hard, I find it very hard to understand how some of us are not
aware nor are sonsitive to some of the conditions of this community.
I want to say to most of you, unlike most of you, this i-,; my home. And
of course, I'm black and you'd wonder hc'r I cjt.t this to be my home. I
was born and uro6 here. I want to add t;l'_ other thing. I haven't always
received a .-air shako and I aor;'t go around carrying that on my shoulder,
1 live in 1980 with the hole of God, t'nat things are going to ch'Lnge and
conditions won't bu thu salnu. I'm ha?t,.y .:, bay that I'm a living
testimony that things do change and thir.ga can change. I want to also
warn ,you that you kr.ow,there's such u ti..n, as tel:int, ino to go to hill
and then you don't have to hush me into hall. If you gut what I
I irzintain that his county, I happen to have been one of t'.u: advocates
of bi.li.ns:uar in Dace County. I wi:: At tne: very beginning. Unl.tke
most or thu people around hurt:, I happen to havu been the lr:adex of the
CiVll r!U:its MCJVQMent tni; YOU riaoded mu like hall. 'Phe lot,: Archh:iship
Colam,4l;, carol and l we`r,C on rad.lo and television, and the nuwspaper
and took a pose t-'on. I did th,:n, I would now. I just wonder, I ;;ust
wondur, I jul:t wondor. �;;' brailtharen, you ulucted a logislitturC:, G'.'
you C:1.ucted man to yo to rho logi:)lature who represented Dade Cou:ay.
They duvelopad a packaqu known and c;illt-ld Homo hula. I'm not a lawyer,
I say to you whit 1 always say, I went to law sc;lool for one day but
1'11 tuli you, IIomt: i•<u:u :Gc`ar1z1 Home Rule. I would foul. far mo2'e
comfort.ahlC., Mr. Mayor, I would think God would be plQasud if I were to
coo to the p,.;oplu or tho County and say, the: right and fair and just
thing is to make Gadu County b.i-linqual. I think that would be a
tar but ter thing that to have. the City of Aiiami, my home town, and
remember, I can't go no where, no other Place is home. This is home for
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Father Gibson (continued) . me. . than to hazy,- ,itzing 1:1 the middle
of this County d1one. Y mink -wo ucvocute t`ii',:,efr;rc th".; iz, cast,
is; an indication :,urnr,Lr cjnt_, th�.-.t people;
number two, it's an affront to oe Dvzause th"."', to
1r.aku tnis bilingual. 1 navunl',_„izid:fC:a. Th
proceE-,s is yoNA can always initiate, you couN d1way's pc-rzi-n-v,u you could
always fight for. Lot mt_ make this final brethcnn, 11VO
said to this bi:torc! find VIM c,-011-19 to ScAy 'C-o t'nib Corrcal�,Eiion
today, lender.shimstand today whore Tollowship mu3L :;r,nd to.:.,-)rrow. And a
man is not a loader who novas with the wind. It hurtL:, my I,,.!Cy 11-leurt and
soul to see that the luadurship of nrij.:; comTanity -,s undcr and
knuckleing under and just listening to the wnims:--cal w1shcs of thu crowd.
I urge 76u, 1 bO9 70u, I'm 901719 to My to 70u IlOW ! h,4vu to
scjy to the, peopie beforu we had that riot. You cli-n't Know T fqurvd
out thurt:. Z bogged thorn not, bkcjqc-d them to call this cor""tunity
together to 'have a meeting, to talk over tho
didn't listen cc) 111C. 1 noiju you wcn"z. htC C:,'-tu 4s your
omotions run "way idth you. All. You Will QC, for -C*r,l: comr'.."nity if you iUss
this kind of d legislation, is to pol.rizu Wo conausity. 1 !now nzi
a bloc" yea think chat's a hull of a pobition for mu to tall" 140 navc,
knen ag"nst the Latins, I've had somu problams with Kicow, Ray? -
urge you, I urg, you, 1 liuy you, j pluac %nta you, not 0, j".w; tit. biz
of legin1a;Jon at Zhin tIMU, When NOWMW 4th COWS, %M'11 !W-W
ti"""'. is you rually O.nt to convince Me, -":-,d * 111 c's yo"I
on rauio, colevision, nowspapur, ie you want to really cor.vinoc- me Oat
you really moan right and you ..tally mean to do the lest for =0;
community, as I oftan say in the prayers, and Mr. Mayor, I'm you
thc� praying Mor this morning. All. tra., ot*nor I tt', pray
.;-J.d, lol.'i"Y"iu!"j U, to do whiQ:1, iz KyhL and bust and .011:
for this community. le you really want to canvirxe iX- that's wric-ru You
arL, you know what you'll do? You'll postpone Lhis action, you will get
out he tz the public and say to thu public, the Ancric--ar, way L!.; zhat
every man has a chance. I cuula tull my Latin ROOM W" TO)' [101Y
not want to hear it, Wy way rip,. wuzit to listen 'to ir-, 1 ha; 1;-f. ',-.0 b(-.- one
best of %q"-"Lt the can (i,:) to you i:nc. what It cane' ,t ct� and
how it will cOnga. You, you are the benuficiarins W my labor, of my
SaCCIFAUU, Lnd 1 urqu you, 1 urge you zo po:;tpcn(:., this action 5o that
you don't further polarize this community.
Mayor Ferro; Plul,.Uilur.
Mr. Plunvruc. v,,ayor, -just a fow zxid I quoss, ruall-,, .1111 be
on o: W"I'At Father ha,. ;;aiCi- Ci2%3t, of all, wnc;t111er this
rcsolut..Ori or :any otbar ru!3olution :.z.; Qfferocl before this or
cth-.-.r thit; City i, bilingual rulardlosz of a YeLolution
or a Plecu of P"Pvr. Alty Porce"t, at lk..'sv fifty Percent, of this
community speaks a susond lanpo"jo. And whothor th.is or ai-,y Other rczolution
is passua or failo, this community iL Ltill goa-nq to bt, lbi-lin�pijl bucause
it's a act of lifi:. I azii scared oZ any ,:osolution such a.,; this, and even
chu election, wC.ii h iz ofOrW to the PaWc in the upcoming futuro. I
very vivioly recal1 that when this sub1ccu was discussed Wore, and I'm
scarad it has passel over coo 3Qhtly,tear. at that t;_mo thore wa!i a
price in the- full im,-, I umentat ion of declaring otficially a City or
County b Q in gu"!. At that time, the price taq wats about fifty-four million
dollar,-. 11m "ssurud r-11,tt today it would be more. Mr. Mayor, lily vote
today will Q conxistunt with my vote of elQveri yu-ar; on tni,, Corcnistiior,,
1IL(l trli" 'h' C(J t*i'k: L-'L-,jp1L: to speak. Arid they will speak in a
VI.- 1'0 1- 0 t id UM. :;omvt unt!:; i quo!;s wo fonjut that wu are only V.1eezud ne. !'c
U) for Ulu t-o0J)'44-, anti only in r,ire incidences do they have the
to spvak for thon,..sulvus. I will be
by my puoplo and what they speak ix, th;4t refe-randuni. I will not; speak
to it boforuhund.
Mayor Ferro; All right, further -,tatemento?
14r. Carol lo; Yes, Mr. Evt:.-n though you n.-ad thu hQzlrt of tha
Motion, rathOr th.- ',zion, the, whole' er',:.L.Vc: wa.i nor. read.
At this; point, I wcxild to read' the retcluic.Lo:. in it:; entirety...
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Mayor Ferre: As amended.
Mr. Carollo: As amended,
Mayor Ferre: In other words, Spanish is the second, Oi-ficial ; ancjllage has
to be incorporated after .paragraph one, after co -exist successfully, and
therfore, Spanish would be adopted as a second official...
Mr. Carollo: 'rnat's just made clear. I think the motion is clear enough,
that was asked for, I had no problem with that. I'll road th:: resolution
now. "Whurea:, the history of the City of i•i:,.ami has b!en officially, and
inextricably inter -laced with the hit Cory of our Spanish
population; and Whereas the City of Xiaali has also become the gateway
to Latin America, for tO'.:ri.st and bu:,inosf;'.i0,'a a centor of
econoaly :and cultural exchange, and Whereas the City of t;iami':; economy
has benefited trcm(l ndJUSly from large anlo=ts of Latin American i.nvortmants
and touristti that come Lo the CiLy and from the ]Gb,, - hat they create,
and now therefore, be it resolved that the Co;nniisslon of the: City of i:iaml,
Florida, th,-, City of ictlrki is hcrcoy dusignutuc, a iii-cultural
City whc!-cn the i ng.lish idle Spanish languages are found to t,•lrive and co -exist
succulsstully, an:: '�hait syJ,:tnish be thG second official lan( uagj-, of
City of MJ.aGil. r2i,l: Licy OL iil.dln.l herEJ-) Wf-IcOLlt;;i Viuitor6 aild ILur,:,lant3
fror, Sp:ln.i:,,.n spaak:.nr, countries and loons forward t0 0II] day w;,en
Vl:oito;:;; alnc: mlerciiar;t:i trGLl LUrOpu, Africa zinc: Asia will come to our
convnunity in equal nu-xbers; thereby further enriching Our cultural n11x
and contributing to the eronur,;ic standinq of the City of Miami." Tnis is
t.,e : usolution in its full entirety. I Lirst came to this great country,
thi —. best country.' in the wlicle world when I Was hive. Both o`. my children
i,avu uGG1'i born lied."i , ray Wa.;-'e is a native? Miamian whose fari1y h1s t,Qi:n litre
well kofore Our war of incir--pundence here. Miami, the United Status is
my home. 1 aid -It come here: as a tourist or a: a V151tUY, Mlarll: i5
my home, 1 consider myself an American citizen of Cuban extracticr,. I'm
Proud of that. We talk about being for sGmethincj but you can't be for
sOX-othir,g :4f When the: t.im(. colrQs to draw the line and show by action, by
Your vote that you aro for something, you don't want to cross that line
and say yea, my friend, I am for something but I rant voto for i.t and it
will pol,:,rissr_ the community if we vote for this. This has been in oxistence
sine;: 1973. in 1973, resolution was passed by the Dade County Commission,
creatinj Lade CountyiIi'li:lgual arid bi-cultural. All of a :sudden, we are
told that it the City of Miami goes on record for the first time, saying
We ZA,IrGe WaLh that, Wil are also going to pass a Similar resolution stating
the same thing, that we are going to polarise the community. The petition
that ha.s been passed in Dade County, the type of warding which will be on
the ballot in the November election, it goes farther than ju.,t :stating
that they don't want to see Dade County b,: a hil;.ngt!al county, It goes
further. It state, ;_hat the only cultur:c that shol11'. be expanded, that
should be •,:alked about in Dade ;:cun;:y is t;v:, American cultural. Wall,
I'm dlzann proud to be an American and is um just as patriotic if not. more,
than anyone in this City, in this County, or in this country. But when
you see that hate is the only thing that is leading some people to act
in a certain way,nouhing good ever cane of hate. This same motion .i: stating
to us, that for instance, the City of Miami, any city in Dade County, Dade
County government, cannot spond a penny in c4otting involved in a St. P"trick's
Day parade, getting involved in any activity like the Goombay Festival,
getting involved in any exchange of culture:;, with any country be it
Germany, Italy, Poland, Japan. What it is saying is We're~ closing
ota: ,1C,oYS to any other exchange of culture or ideas. No one, is saying
that Spanish is going to have to be the only language. On the contrary,
Lncil.isll is the lanquagu of the land and it always will be, in this
country. What we are :saying is that there is another langllagh th.,t is the
major .language in Miain.i, which is Spanish. A language that is spoken
by a larcie percentage of our population, a language that because it's
s o%un here has brought thousands upon thousands of jobs and dollars to
our City. And while other parts of the country, other parts of the state
are suffc;rinq the imp,4ct th,-It this recession has had, Miami has beer,
pretty free from it bucatioe of the: dollars that have been coming
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Mr. Carollo (continued) . here fz'oc `Latin A:!-,erlCa. .1:L 1 may go into
the Old Testament for a vdnutu, ana cju into "Kings, t hur� Goa talks about
that you have to make your mind in lit . I- states clearly, pick between
me or the devil. You cannot S':ay in the: mlctQ!Q . I acay to you now, Fick
between good and right, ag&inst v.ron(l. OU cannot Stay in the r,�iddle,
my friend. Either bC POY bl-cultura'L ;;ia„ i or be against it,
but don't tell me you're for sin -chlIng if you want to stay in the middle
and hide and not hava to ma%u a c:eclslon. if you're: agaln:;t It, come out
and say so, if you're for it, cc>c, out arid say so. The way olir
community is polarl'z D& at this POlnt I" Line, aid yQ;ti, it is P)"ri.Zed,
this here is not going to pola::ize it any more or env less. This
resolution has bQer, in L::i L n, i; :line,._' 1973. ifneru ar,u rwti:y other t Iingo
that are helping tJ F}Ji:i: i'1., our cOr mul:lty. And is ,n7h,-)6y would like,
I would be mores• thin% l7al�;)y to c�e:t ,.rjto L.1,,. flow or at any time in the future,
privately or publicly. beit I suy to yo'a, pic:< nc>w w`.at you want to do.
Whether your want to approve: this or disapprove it, l:ut don't hide and
stay in the middle.
mayor F'erre: All right, further statements? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introauced by Co,;,,•nissioncr Carollo,
who moved its adoption:
hi:SGLG'i' Oi� No. 610-624
A RESOLUTION ',HE CITY OF MIAMII A
AND BI-CULT' RAL CI a'Y WHER;t THE ENGLI H AND SPAN16H
LANGUX-JES A:M FOUND TO ':nR►Vr.' AND CO -EXIST SUCCESSFULLY
AIM THAT SPANI:ih BE CONSIDE,ED THE: SECOND 0:'FICIAL
LANGUA L OF THE CITY 0 ' ::zAM1 j F'URTHEA WELCOMING
VISITOM AIN3 1.:i%CHA,=i FROM SPANISH-SPEAKING COUNTRIES
;AND LOOKING -'ORWAT�B TO ':HI' DAY MIEN, VISITORS AND
MERCHA'N.TS FROM F U:NOPL, AFRICA, AND ASIA WILL COME TO
OUR COKMUNITY IN E(2UAL N'J:•:BLRS Ti:LREBY F'URTHEP
F:ti:;SCHING OUIt C.L'L v Al, MIX AND CO'NTtiIBUTING TO THE
ECONO,M,IC ov 'i'H'z CITY OF mi mi
Upon being seconded by Corwrilssionur Lacasa, the resolution was; passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Comd5sionur Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
mayor Maurice A. Furre
NOES; Corry ,i.-i-ioner J. L. Pli =mot, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
OH ROLL CALL:
*Mayor Forre: Well that moans that I have. the deciding vote:. And I wanted
to express my opinion in thi4 very difficult transitional point, I think this
co.-umunity is in the midst of. a:;einq Garth Reaves here reminds me of a
dinner where Mr.. Reeves and T wear: wit;, tho Assistant Secretary G: Commerce
about two weeks ago. And T was very pleabantly surprised and gratified...
I think the most sicjnificant: stat%jrlont made that evening was made by
Garth Reeves when he touched on this very subject, and he said it is time
to understand that we era 4 n.. the: midst of change:, and we have to adapt
to that Change, I thou,h1,-. that was a strong statement and I've paraphrased
it. and not �,aicl it a.,; well as ho sc.id it. The fact is, that it is not a
rlucstion as to whathor ar. not we're doing to become a bili.ni:ual community,
we are: do f,:icto, a h i ) ill, uc:.l c:oiromiriity. We are also do j uris a
U i l in.+;u;:1 community bucausi- there are Federal laws that insist on that.
The: vudural case of Lowe versus Nichols in the area of education, the
Lsobby Kennedy, tho Ke:nnudy vors;us t•Iorq Anthau case which put Spanish in the
ballot. That was done by Bobby Kennedy when he was a senator from New
York State, That's a Vedoral law. That's not going to be changed, And
the fact that ,lack Orr and the County Commission voted in 1973 to make
this community officially bi-lingual, so that is the: law o both the land,
the nation, and it's also the law of thi.**articular community. So it is not
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Mayor Ferro (continued); this res::;lli:ion that !)Cyir;S Liu t)YGCCy C,i:
polarization, What brings the process OZ pol.aritat-'On is the filet that
we do have a changing community and that's unavoidable. Now, in addition
to which it is not the Spanish speaking community, or any other segment
per se that has betrrn the oroc,_ss of reversal. it is a group of citizens
led by Mrs. Schaffer ana. eggod or, by a radio .;taticn, who in my o'; l.;lion,
is acting totally ir2:-:sponsibly tc 1)ring up C?L1Gtions and it.i.r lip hate, That's
how this whole process begins at this point. And even then, we rnu:st
admit, that they are ;r:obably responding to somut'r,ing that may be very
deep rooted. Now, to the statement that let the people :Lrjk::ak, thy_ peo,)le
are going to speak in November and they're cjoing to spc!ak ';:o a County law,
not a City law. Yes, wG arc. bound by the county !uw, bu',: i h<:rC a1'e rtla:.y
timee, thgL the C;Uunty take.; onu posil:lUn and rLVLY�CS t(iat, ar,i; the City
remains with it and ruaffizms: it. There is no ruason, w� are a 6vi) Irate
goverrim.ental ; urlSd'Iut-ion. `'i'he City of Miami has its ow,, haYaCi t Y and
there's no reason wny Li,t City cannot speak al-sci. Now, wh't hal.;i't Wu done
it before this; t1 .o,, We hctvurilt dons it bQfore this timt: bc-cause it
simply waz not nuce:isa�*'. Wkly are wu AOin(j it. at %hlb JUr1CtuYe? BUIC.AUS :
I ti;ink le:adcr:>hil,, as 'r'ather Gibson pointed oat, ruc;airus for p,.o;,ie to
hake 'stater,vnt:s as to how we foul. Now wiL*ii rr:;aYda tD zhu waV ',;,ho
COun' 7 : s hc;aded ana Why we're doing this, it iz my ur,de:r:;tandi.ng, ti;.is
is a ruviior now which I a,,, 90i.ng to rLit4'raL'u h,_,re, it it; xi.! urod,-_,rC ;tarding
Mat COr"1ni5:ii G ;L'Y C dTGYd, t.UrnOrrOW W .11 prOtiOSJ a ion :,ut Will
in Offect, at�C'ornpli.;h wheat Mxs. Schaffer is trying to and therefore!,
'r,ave the Novc:m)�o is:,uc withQYawr;. So I think In the Tacc of the potential
of that ritsollution introduced at the Metro Coininission tomoP :row, if the
rumor it; cO1.'r oct, that we in the City of Miami restate our positon. Now
our losition is somewhat different bocat:su we must remember that t.hc:
city of Miami has; f ifty-vight percent of our population that. is Sparli5
t.i7U:1%in�j :.;o L.; the adrnl? thing as in Xetropolitan Oats: County, uxcept;
there t', lees than thirty-five percent and thureforc, it becomes an
cNen More C,r'amatic nt,ce:;,;icy in the City. Now LAstl'f, let me just r,,aku
two points. O.iu is uxtarnal, and onu 1., internal, i,Kternal tnLanS the
w. ,rld uut.siac: of Miarni. Now over this past weekend, I've had a berias
cf: r%:Qtin•jz:, we had a conference here of ... i t wa , a conference of Chambers
ei Coair,'turcu from all over Latin America and the United Statc . And thcue
per)plc for-muc:, them:;ulves into an international fr.,duration, to have its
home base in Miami, of Chambers; of Comme'.rcc because they realize that Miami
is truely, by being a bilin>;ual community a major bridge between the
Arnerieas. Now, v,u cannot on the one,: hand, say we want more international
banks here, edge act brinks, there's twenty-two of them now, almost more
than tie:W Yor:i: City. We cannot on the or, the one hand say that we want
that port to prosper. seven and one half billion dollars of trade, more than
any other city, other than Nuw York. And it isnt' going, my friendly to
Asia and Africa ana Japan. That is trade: going to Latin Americ,i and the
Carribbean. P;c• cannot say that we want our International Airport to be
the centar of eight ;ni.11ion people using that airport, and at the game time
La7 that we're: not going to rucognize in iat';, what is in fact in reality,
in fac;:, an,. :.hilt :t5 that tai L is a biliti,;u.il co{{ minity. !:« wC:'ra going
to bu a bridqu, if we're going to say that: w,:- are really welcoming these
tourists etnd invcst:ors, and bankers, and multi -national corpo:,:.•Cions, if
we in truth, ar(: going to say that wc: want t:hu Tradcj Fair of the: Arnt., seas
to prosper, t.non we must recognize: why till Trade Fair of the Americe;a 1r
prospering. Miami has not changed geOgral)hically. We're not one thousand
miles closc:r to Caracas, Venezuela in 1960 than we were in 3.960. The sun
does not :aline any brighter. our beaches are not that much better, Why
then ha., M=ar.;1 chancled in twenty years? It's chan5iud xor one, the one
thing r.hut has changed Ls that there are seven hund•rud thousand spanish
sl,eakincq people in this community, And that: has attracted the multi-r.ationwl
corporations, and the viuitors, who in turn attract the , d6e act bank-., anri
one: tt.inq tics into the other. ."hat is why this community is changini_;,
Wull what: doers that cio for rnu: I'm not Spanish or I'm not w:.ite , And my
ans war is the z;wao answer that Coleman Young gave; whcr: hu was askod, well
what. dour; Ru ,naisswncu Center do for the- black citizen o:: Detroit. What it
does, Coltman Young said, it creates jobs. And the: taxi driver who may
riot be able to have a direct linkage with RQnnaia::ance Center, who may be
black, is drivirly a taxi to a per:;on that is coin, to go to Re nnaissance
Center, and the person who buys food bocausc- o: the glow o:: the money
that is; spe:'nt, ar,ci all thesu things have So that is talc: external
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Mayor Farr.e (continued) : br .:C!'_ a. -'jt'.'/, lei.. C.L' ti i:', id Ut th,.
internal bridge, which 1 t:it.ink O all is the me16t This,
country is changing, and has chang—Ld all of this century, ;:roru a country
that e:.7;phusizes chu libc-rc.trian 'co ti:u uagtlitarian ap))roach O::
governmen-L. ThatIsWnat tnL' 4/O"tC,".'ti 1.1V-%X0 1t-; alp. ;ahout, that's what
I:r'li is ail .tt)Out. inch. 'LS %'/liar 1,-, iJ:.''i tr.e_ SLIf-torai;
• � wa:s a'! nuouL-, when
women Tit tJaT: to vote. in 1924, wt-� couican l t- 'navC'. a Cc4L-i,011c as a
president beccluzo Li,tDeocrt; 1)arty, hJt rLip ty O1 ursc l
in New York City ::uid that you couldn't be a c.ithoiic and ce .)rosidont
of the United SLa't.es. And •,:ha1.' S f-<Art of o-ar history. And it wasn't until
1973, 4lOuid you lbeliiAVe , One [:unaret: Ear i i-tul: tGe D'-ead ac:Ott case that
the Suprei-no. Court of t ac3 U nitc!d 5-atcL; ulna :_0vc1:3ed chu Statumient that
i7 siC:111�j /lad 511C1, thaA S`nce blacks wC:r4 :lavas, Ur :;o:'t'. o,.' t{7C:Ti WEtri,
the, w6'rt chattel and thGrt for/:, they were not: protected by the Constitution
of th4 Unj.'z d `.7ta uz;. it took on(. hunflrt:d years tD T'CVt'.rSe that. SO this
country has a hiszo2:y bi Doth discrltuindtlon ..-end of unlighten ,le-nt and
rugru.:.s in an ccialltarian 8OC1Uty. Cite Of the last front.i lrs that we
nave In this egalitarian world of ours; is not only to et,tabli.s; the right
of blacks and people: who have a different color skin, and Of cat;'Olics
and Jews, and Of: Old people who also have rights, but t:o understand
that pi:ople wi,o have a di2ferent culture, are also Protected by the
16th a-mertelmunt Of chf9 Civil iKighc,,...i tnClan Othe Y1gnt:; of vi%o Con:ititutlon.
And fact is, that the Conat.ltutlon tjurantces a person 1, Polish
Gt'%Cnlcrlt;, or Jctpunt:su, or Chin( -,Se, that he: udder the Constitution, he or
11..1VG (:quill r1CJ1'.t The Constitution does not sa;/ t.h«v. a person '_S
.`.O get one: job Or anOthUr bi:CauSG 'C }i tl)pen'u to be: White Or
cdth:)!-c ur juw, and the Const., tu,:lon nuitht:r Says that a t.s yuarantc:l:d
U art :.ndiviaual bocaus u hU OA1 t t 1 :illeCt'ri'c. r'ngll.,h and bec:aua(he a_)a;ur:£
anoL'hu: lanquayu, that a job should bo denied to him. f.nd so tht:rc., ore,
r.tT'i: ;L 4 JIr..VuJ CGil:tltut]Gnul cyUuotion. And to my black brot/1C:rr,
a;,d �; i:;turj, taiI4 1 bay bvotherti and Gi.;te:rs, there ha.,i to be a clear
u;:dts.".c,tanair'q th"L what: the: color of 3ki.n iL to the black commUnity is
w:/cat cultu--e: and what lang-ua9c i.e. to this liripanlC community in t.-u.s
::ount:y. ise:cauoe tho hispanic people. of this country come in all shades
Of co .Jr ;. Si ,;nu of them are Mack, and Sume are whire,and sol:lt: are jaws
and sat;, u u cnri:;cians, but thu one: thing that unite;, the eightscln
or two nt.y million .Danish spoaking People: that live: in this country is
rnC;,r Thut dot_S not mean, Piea5ia understand, that anybc.dy wants
to imj)ozo SI)anl8;i. or: Chis country, The lanquaUu of Ame2'lca lei Lr'glish.
it will always, b i:;uJil ;iz. Thu culture of America is the Anglo-Saxon
culture: and wu lve all adapted to that. Tnat dons not moan that I don't
fiavu a right L'J ;j'7t;ak Spanish to my chllaron. That does, not mean
individual who is not proficiont in English does not have a right
to a join and aces not have a right to tho other things guarantaed by the
Con;:ci.tur.ion. And therefore, I think -that is i3 a major and an important
cro:,s- odd, in thrclssho.ld that we are crostAng. I congratulate my collegue
JOG Carollo, for hits initiative:. I undors rand, I congratulate Armando
Lucasa for nit; initiative. I unlerstand that there are, that there is a
down s.id�:. There: Ls always a down aido. I am not unaware of the terrible:
cr,lticiLm rhaL its going to befall, on rta, a;:; the Ewing vote on this ... I can
ju6t hear Ono radio station as they star,. resenting and raving within the
next f: vc: a:c ter; minute,;;. And I'm sure that it will 1Flst for days, and weeks,
d'tct months CO CG;11e, until LOlilt; d,1y sort, body in Washington catches ui) with
hc:.-A- L-a rtelan t:o tull you tnat unc44r these difficult circumstances,
one: }:a:; to sr.and up and be counted. Anti I vote you,
Vx. Mayor, a; a supplerncnt to the, to this resolution,
W' )U.: a l , f u to ;nova tr,,AL cio u requirement for the hiring Of the: next..
t.i t:y M,t,.,AttuA on basis, rho ability to be bilingual and
bi-.,ult.ur.tl b:; .lncluded in the specifications,
b:.tyor Ve rrC: All : ight, t}:c ra's ,t thotic)n. is thuro a second? is
t.hery " secrn.l. Tu tnarc. a second to that motion?
Father Giz6on: I'm going vo second the motion for the sake Of discus;�lon.
Mayor Ferro: All ri'aht, there: is a second to the motion. Father Gibson
iu reco�;nizoci.
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Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I hopu my brat:,ers, yo•., sic , t'r,t�- difference
between me being black and thin society, and you Doing iatin in this
society is that you could always hide. I can't hide. is use thought.
I'd better say that publicly because nobody is fooling rr.� ua� here. I
understand the mechinationr of this bu:;::neso, And, you know, 1 I.--e to
be laudable. I've tried in my lifctir,a to bo laudable:. 1 hams wv'ra
going to be consistent now. 1 second(-.d that motion t0 ,.ut:C 8urc, da.Tr,
sure I could see whe:thur or not wC are. C C .1515tt:tt . 'rna`_ I :i r lght .
All right, call the roil if you're ready, whenever, I've said all 1 have
to say.
Mayor Fe:re: Furt;,cr statements? I would lixe to, just for the record,
before w�: vote, stag: melking this c ,=,unity bilingual by resolution
is soxQthing which 1:, a Strong p:'I:e1i501/ii1C81 statcamf_nt. 'i think that on@
of the prim"ry requirements of a City Manugar in this city iz that he or
she be bilingual. 1 do not thing, however, that it is a def.acto absolute
requirement that riuSt bc: c'.-Iiseled in stOr,c:, if there are: ot',',6r conaiC:erations
involved, sll�--h as, uxpuriunce, proven u xpericncu, ability to funs-cion
in ti,at capacity, and intLgrity, which to mo are the th.-CQ tiY.1.,.,al:y and
absolute conditions that. a City Manager mu:it have. Aftl.r thOSL- 01itiiAl
tillwe cnnditionj, the ability to deal with the const:itucncy of the City
is essential. That, for e'xamplu, raquizuo a SLn;iitiVity Lo the bl,lc:k
community. In the case of the blaci; comsrlunity, as � previously .;toted,
it i; not a question of speaking a langua.,e, but it i;, ju:,t as important
to mu to have a City 6ianager wi'lo has a proven record of sv .L.tivit`f to
black issues and black problem:l. i;nd the ability to deal wit?. Lnoi; prol:lem:�
as a prove;, record to bu abi.e to deal with the Hispanic cur,._,ultity. '�'o say
that a per:;on raujt ::puck 5panis;h to :)w sensitive to the: i,::aliar.+.c co: ;nunitius
needs i-,; liko saying ti.at he ryast be blac:1 tc understand, t:,t_ prcble n,a
of the black co;ralunity, and I just s.iitlily do not accept that. And so,
under no circumstancus would I c:vur vote for any restrictinq condition that
would say that a person musa be catholic, or jew, that muut be a r.'.alo or
a female, that must have a curtain age requirement, other that, the lot,al
cage, or that must: speak a langaage or another ianquagc, because I think
'chose are constr.xint:.; that go way beyond the Constitutional c,-uarantee:,
in theory, and that if thug were to be adopted certainly couldn't be
classified as anything but political.
father Gibson; I love what you said, Mr. Mayor. I want to toll all
ray brethern out there, what I do speak so louci, you citn't huar what I say.
Wnat I do s.,,x,uks uo loud you can't hoar what 1' say, 1 hats' to do this,
but I think a need to do it so my white brethern can understand me and
my Latin bruthoren can understand me, and my black brothers. All those!
years this City nevo- r 6,Aw fit to hire: a black assistant City M:anagc-r. All
thasu years, ail of us wore up here with the exception of Mr. Carollo, I don't
think you were here, :pose was here in your. Peace, uwnulo was here in yours.
Okay? I talkod, and 1 talked, and I talkud. i'i;o Mayor know; thi s t
want you to know how I foul and why T tuo. like :i Gael. And I'm nc•: going
to be other than Theodore Gibson out thuru, I've been Thoodcro Gibson
all my life and all my friends know this, I will Opeak my mina, Ovcn to
the dislike of my best -friends. It watsnit until ;aid to Jae era:.ste,
the noxt damn time Plummer and the rest of them offer a mc,tion tha,: you
have to go, I'm going to cast my vote that you au, unless, until and i;r.luss
you get a black assi::tarn: laity M�naqur. .,"nd :i1G difference is i t4cn';
want an assistant city Manager, I don't w,lnt a bl ic;: a:JJI;L.;y't:. C.`.ty m.anagur,
1 Wrant an il::sistant city lnLl:who in ;)li•IC.k, i. lot it:' di««,.rt.ncQ. ;Ind
i caid, make damn sure whun you go re:'ruiticg you don't go tc, Fid.Varc;,
in New England, but you go to How•ir.w, in Washington D.C., wneru bl•;;;i:
folk go. Do you roriomht_r that, Mr. Mayor. I told you that. ,U1d 1 told
you you bettor sensa.ti:e Joe Grassiu. Do you remember that.?
Mayor FurrQ: Yu; , sir.
Father Gibson: Oh yeah. I want to say this because: I want to put all
this on the: tl:iolu. :>1d I want ovurybody to know tht:,t I just didn't wake
up with thi:i. I've:' 1i%lod this. And note, I'm nQt tl;Q Most radical gvy
up huru. I'm for compromise, I'm for change., ci;tcl want tc. make sure
my white bret.hervn and my 1�ttin bretherun tVIll ur.ae:ratand that you can't make
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Father G"b3on '-f ycx., a:Ln
never been black. '-"C)u r,'!VC:Z1 n;i, tl
1. -, - -o S 1"t; :j tha�-
saying thac. xxL' II-Idlan-, say, that nat yoa W.:'It" ]L,-, You
canIc undt:rt;tand. —Y.'-U it C, I
this morning and I'll 1?oul: -P-rr, '�O U""d W'."�'-'
this, I believe mcor-j aroy mr. *.oil *i 1
wilat 1 SUC. !-'r.ty 1 dc'r.'L 11ve uno"('ik to
say 7 warnea vo-a, I told YOU. ZO
3wL;t about- Li—y pk:!r i,.-. -'C-c r
a. 1. conc, Ind you u3-n't tearit To on C'n o d, but
1 tnink I -c.(- - , -rIc�w 1-'cow to
�Aur,� tha-c eV,-ryh,ody uncir';'-o"n�—, ":*C'at 'I
count. Wt- to !,:o,--dor, vw t7Ut zc'
of Whitu anglo-E'dx'Dr' Art 'C C:, vl Wu I-VL.;:-
the hi.; Cit".1 a.,;" ";0
.41DOu t t " ILI r C e r, t at: e 0 -'L,:t VO r 6 1.1% 1 "11.:;
liko uvoryboC"'v
God Z`or :-.,y -X' "."C' '�k)' C'n(DO &
::nu wo6:t2,:' f)r fo.", Lr1C;"L.Q11 iOr i-l'
snu :iaici, scri, .1
nev,r for:jt:t rhat. ccil-lzi
yo-a is Z WL --C' 'Lnu 0,-,
tnc;lz conk.Qus
You, nor Seu!j is 1"C" 11 %-1"4't
ti',C.' COIIAi'jtjjp it VOU C11:17' I;
t C '. ty ,"Du
- ru tj'*I"Au te.c:
to t'nu
i--purativo. An6 III;; reaav :() vo':c _!Cu all aru.
,%oaYOV "OrrQ; .atLit;,--xnts?
'W vOt"Cl:;'
dnU it's C)L,.L Of not c4o.inq ti.) ),n'/okL. t1v-, 11:ivu day 11ke it has
bean inve.--c-d Oil r.l! On
in
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(.'Qn't 111y )J'k
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tMatyC)"l t7c�'-'1%01. 1)cforc vThisCommi.ssion, k;wY fur
to,ou cannot ron M." ti',il: 4" ;; I; h.o CIib,-An S,o,it, or thili; i5, tho
::Gait, L 111.. i-, thu Antj;D i:i the uuatl for, a woman, w
o' WhIt WL' t1-ril'O
.;c'mulLhinq in to bring t"-%(:1 city irl a T.w4cc
of t.-rogruL,, Fiut now wu wunt to tl%o ,i,�ods of
Z-'U'-Y 1: .1 A KI-141t arC- WU rjUlnla to do ri,:xt? Arc! W"., to
wall, you run tni,5 Comr.16.,,ion, -w yv,. run "'oZ ;Ibbo
bQcc.'.i:;Q A CUI�4'1 ""-" Culo;1;16, ):".,n 01, th'4L. it; a
I)Iack wian only 4%n v.111orc. 01, 50k, huru . .. . I . . . .
WE: ',',UV(s 'L'(.r, j)t.Qj')iQ C:1k;vQ'1'. t.-kat 1"-Q Cu; "r"L-" It' ' ' ' " t
arQ thruu ti',tit �irt� --t--v-t: tlla-.
job; hulon,;
Lc) and that -jw):; YOU that:
Wt. `j,%VQ- tO I)Q M6 if M.'" UI;Q "L-A.:" j)CVIQUSIY
tod'%y, C!XC:USLQ [Au. OU. i CQ,%l1y Oli(`I"< thi-" -i!l .+,;Q it
"cp...l.r.. You c;wir-ot miX W.tl. An,�
I hAVV 00.,:', in my wi%,I(-' 1LiC in my ir, my
1.Uu h,wUn, t. uIIQ iCoOth'.:" 01'.0
I ht;tv(:I.'t 1*jt:r-.., Orju (iciy •AiIL4 th(:t'o. t'.I(.) nk-%.t, yo'.1 walk
ar'.)Uric: Liii. City '.'.l I"(-) Ir"Ittur if yoLl to fGr ,:xr-
yi.jar* or four yuz4r.-, fr,-)m now with A pat)Qr in youv hazicj!r_: to 6%;Q th'..
runni r41 God T ,ion -, h .,L 1c, :;".-ror
Lj�-lo'lli 'kro:t .;-jt.o-, n,-, wiuh it. Thank - kjZ'
wit;*' hyst:Qvic'k - i attack:i, ThL. act'/ that 1 WO U I d h.: I V i:; t 0 »u C.- I:
th at. I WOr i" %3 c-i) 0.1 z' o 1. 4;: C ions, tt ia t r. hu (-i a vh.S `ab up
boctuzo no 14. worv. And all of u.t, w#--jrQ cloctuc'. to z-cidy ,:Qrv(.,
i: ,i:',.'1 not. BN ":hc. va;:' '- i':NOW wit1lout
rjo j i L » vC , it W01,1C, 1:-Q woulo
IqQ
I '. or Ll...Q
tV -I*. `14Y jl�j 1 C.. '11' - job C
job of A fintncc 6.Lrvcvor, or the jol, al-, t1hi!;, vcv.j •SCMQO:'.:'
t'" 4"1
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Mr. Carollo (continu(id): h:spar,:c nor tnat job, of you need someone that's
black for that job or your need someone that's a Jew, or you need someone
that's White Angle protestant for t'r.is job. 'hat's where we're finally
drawing the line and really creating problors in our coAununity. And I
have been consistent. Unforcunatel)', other pEople haveinot, in the past.
My record as a young man, as an adult, i,, op�:n to anyone, public or
privately, to go through it wit;, a fine toot*% cotrb a:,a feu it 1 have: been
consistent or not in my ideals and ray ideolcgy. t wondar how many others
can really say that. Mr. Mayor, if you want to bring this up for a: vote
now, I am more than ready.
Mayor Ferre: c'urther statements? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Uhl uh...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm Sorry. That's why I asked further statements.
Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Very simply, N,r. Mayor, I thin). this city needs, demands,
and must have as its city manager, the best qualified individual that we
can find. You don't rind that kind of an individual by placir'g all
kinds of restrictions. This Commission will cut-o the final cRL.�cisi.on. I
don't want to place any rustrictions on thu :.March and qualification
process.
Mayor Ferre: Further statements? Call the r011.
'rH::c;%UPON 'rriE rOR-001IRG MOTION was introduced
by Con�r,issionor Lacasa and seconded by
Cox..missioner and defeated by the following
votr::
AYLS: Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
NOES; *Conajo sionor (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissionor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
*Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
ABsENT: Nono
ON ROLL CALL:
*Father Gibson: ,Mr. Mayor, in voting, casting my vote, Z want to make
sure that the public understands that, i've made my point. I had no
intentions of havinj such a restrictian pl.a,ced as a qualification for the
Manager. But I wantud to mako surd that the public gets the message.
And therefore, I vote no.
*Mayor Ferro; boforu casting my vote, lot me say that the massage has
been very clear and that the recognition of bi-lingulism in our City
has absolutely nothing to do with placing a qualification of restriction
on the selection of a City Manager. And z have two points I want to make
to you. I am not one of those, but there are many here, and ism arra4
that probably more that fool that way than not in the Cuban and the Latin
community, that aren't very happy with the former City ManagQr's performance.
Tho furn.or ('i.t.y M.tnucsur w,w totally bilingual and totally bi-cultural,
The fact that a pur;,un speaks or doesn't speak Spanish does not in and
of and by itself quarantoo a full understanding of the Hispanic community.
And if chat wuru the case, than tho way we'd solve problems, simply,
is by choosing puoR>lo of that particular religion, race, color, or culture
to sulvu the probi4ms in that particular area where the problem is. And
the sucond point is, that if we start classifying conditions than are we
going to Start saying that the City ,Attorney has to be black, or are we
going 4o next: say, no, thu City Attorney has to be bi-cultural and bilingual
because the City Attorney's Office has to deal with hispanic affairs
all the: time and with people who are Spanish speaking. P.nd if we start
saying that we're going to put a restrictiCAn that the City Manager has got
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Mayor Ferre (continuod): to be d ilil l:ul Sri 1Ji"CUi,:'.1r1!, Chun by Clod
we'd better start puttinga restr].c:.ior, oY; ' tc City t'.tt0f0Y, 0:7 the
City Clerk and on every Jt:1Cr l: rG'.ii.1 nGrL iL iO YH:•`a'. CCii.ai �iUno they
should and should not CGiti::. :'11G CIJii't `:iiY,}: tY,it i:r.l:i CJ011rt r /
fuIlctions that way. it nevur has, i': nc!vvr will. JCin: 1
subscribe to the st'at'i!1ra.!nt maG(:. by ;1y collequu CO.iu815£:a,oirier Caeollo which
1 think requires courage and conviction and 1 .think that this is a '.nappy
day, for me, and 1 think i:Gr th,.; uople of M]a.l:, and 1 votc agaln:;t the
notion.
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL.
,%jr. Carol.lo: You Know, i1::. Vavor, k'v hog,.n by •;ilyiIiy, wi-:+ '-i7i: l lty S:ifagC-r
haS to be ci hispar:ic a.',d Wr.ezc it Cjoin+j to (:n'dl i,ui0: @ lt''u all Ovi:r,
we might over. be ima)*.in�,, c'Uc;i mo-ionz in a
is for t:7u obvious reai;ons Of h(DU`.;ar,tl:. 1J2Y0;, of rQ:'U,'1'0QS a,n,d
fV rlii t,r rel'il,j@U:i that k'o. f,:iVc hCl4, i:h:-it h(:tVU 1:0t';.G I'Jiil CG:;u,i..l Y,.15t cJUn'cX:L e:i.
hE ne}:� I:lU' :�Gr. SCi,luOn� ii,lt� 1t lYu:i}a� l ; 'i,iatrGlC.1- :
`
iUri,t:L' G,].i].tii CJun wlt ci l Vn']iit:l'.i ; : net Ii i ii J.4 t0 GC un
�f .e: City,
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,Mayor Ferri: All ri(jht, we're now on item number "n". And I'll tell
you, wu r,o have a problem with hot: the station design because 1 know
you have arx)Lhor mULtincj tr,dt you' Vd got tO gat• to. Wu a1SO huVe a
p robie.:, with r.hU of the DDA board. So would anybody mind if
wc; changed the 1i11t: '_p here ant. take the station design next, and then
afuer that 'cake up tnc ODA budget?
:.r. P1wmmur: X.C. ,Mayor, I woul3 acquiesce to that if we could got the
Police Department. This is only a report or an updating. I have no
i:r:t�bl�:ii,. I am the one who requested it and I would like to get these
people back go work.
Mayor Ferri;: a. 1,, I thir;. you'ru ,Join[) to find that it's going to take
a lot longer. +'he Police thing is goincJ to take a lot longer.
Gr:ay, go Shea .
Mr. Fosmoun: Nx. Mayor, Ms. Wachur will.....
M:s. i:llc:n Wachc : Good. "fternocn now. DSCt117be):o oz- tho Conrusc;ior,, I am
i llQn rl:tcher. from Mcst.ropolitan Dad,: County. There will be a public
hearing or, the Govcrw-lent CQntor Station design rsoxt Dlonday at the
Poin ty C(auncil muetinq, which as you know, you arc-, r.epresentud by
morning., 1 alll here with Stan who
will briefly :how ynu what ti',c otation will look .like, It's the:
largest ;,cation in tho system, as I know you are aware.
Mr.. Stan Gdobr.a.. Goc,<i after1100n. At this point in time:, I'd like to
res,:nt t-he Govt•r:lmont Cc.trnter StaLio:7 in downtown Miami, What you have
1;Ure i a �jiL.0 plan :stlowing the location of the atation .in the cowntown
arLa. `i'rt1 wi:it.0 line: hurc, the north -South, is the north -south ellirnnont
i:or state one Of thu Rapid Tca'.131L 0: 'P,teM, And the dabk llrte going across
tho :;lidU, ti.]t':. L:ht: rutur:e zt4ge two, east-we::t allignment, T:11s a
larger, it View Of tliu :w,it uJ::lJlcx. Vi ll:•:o 'CO ,'.)',i:,t 011t What's happer,iPC,j.
We havta fOL.r lei:ii . in h4r,.:. Stago On,: On thU h:3 i1J Transit systerl which
1S the u1liC,nmca,i. ht?ru. Wt.!,::t: :;is0 ii.?w.L:,cJ thu t'aiL-ti'tt::t u11 iy:::1,1:,t' which
iS State two which run:: acro;S tilt;: Sllht:, af,d we ul:J have;, w,Zici', It; :.Qt
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tor. Gdoski (continued): alcwn zoo ,qc:l.., to ✓?i: Y'.4 -1. i)al'ai1f.L t0 the
north -south allignment, and Also w( have the: 7:utUT%! Du]c County Administration
Building which shares the site of the station. And it ila i a common
covered mall that we'll show you in rutur.4 si id(_s . 'ii..i., a model of
the same garage we just described. Eight Here we hav( the north -south
alignment. A portion of the future eu it-Wl t+=align rent which as to
be built at this stage due to the ftict it's sharing the site with the
Dade County Administration Building, 'P'ney no have common structure
elements. That's the Dade County A:LministratiOn 'rower public mall, north -
south, and the future east -west. This here iii just an .illustration of
what's going to be happening at Stclge One. Tile nort'n-lout:, allig merit
again, which is the highest one. below it, we: have Pdrallel to it,
the future DPM which is go:.ng to b(, ollil;at the sxr-u brae as the
porth-sont'h ii; being built. Pj,,d Ono or thLr major ;ltrancOs to Rapid
Transit syste,-,, which is on the sQcond i100r. `aInis is another illustration
of the station that's the model, an early model we had which shows again...
mr. Plummer: If you talk a little louder you'll drown out all those
private meetings out in the back.
Mayor Terre: mr. t•;anager, could we have sor:mubody quic::t the troops back
there?
,Mx. l:,cios'r:i. Agai:i, this i_ just ariociler iilao:
Aquin, north -south ccnte:r plat'.Loi7,, billow it tale auL%il:G ilt;: iafi :'t file
background, which you can't see too W(:11, is the future oast-Wi cst, and
on the left side tho Dado County Administration Tower. This her(:; just
shows you one Of thu ma.�or e.i'crances to t':ic (:Or:.l,l!3X W'11C,. _.3 t0 tiiG
DPM level and the major entrance to tri: papid Transit system and the
ret_li.l. S?):ace associated With tho Dade County Administration Tower. Ti..:s
here », the Other ui for (ntrancc' to G(lu .jy: Le.-n, It; th,e u...,st cntrance which
i:i along Noi:thwcst nd Aver.au rant this portiOn hUrc, It; just a tCrALj Orary
construction for stage on,. , cuiid if in the fl;turu li(e East -west Pl,,ttorm
will be i }xtundu6 along NOrthwes'G .2.nd Street when stage two is implemented.
This i:i just an ulev�ation of tail, u,:,st clCv:lt.iO . G th(: :seat""ion t1L:Y rlij
stag(: One. In t't,u background you have the Administration Tower and the
COurty Commission Chcaber On the left. Tnls is an .illustration Of the
COvt.red mall. it's that: shve•rspace between the Rapid Transit and the
Dade County Administra�_.ion Tower and the retail level. The grade level
Will have some retail :"space below the East -west platform, onthe grad
le1'e:l and On tl-.Q occond floor. And on t:ho t:hlra floor, as you Can SOO,
on L'Gp i::i going to be till: ::la'CUr. Gii:it-4lO.it I)latiOrm. And that's the
roason wu are building it now .in order to accoraodate retail space and
s(i.rvico space related to the Administration Tower. We have to build now
in order to mafe it acceptable: and feasible. This is just a suction
showing thy; relationship between the fdmirii:nrat'.ior& Tower, the covered
mall and ;.he future. 1;&L3t-west, arid ttie rot•:..L! space. On the left here,
thio is the: Administration Towc. , covert m...11 which is an air-conditioned
space sharcd between the building and tho retail and service space;,
related :.o the ACuaa.nistratioli Tower. Gil -chi. 'i.hire level here, we area
inrUcatin(j stage On(: Construction for the And Curedq stage
two, thc: :illy -light will ?,c' extendod and 1.'ul. y functional. ';his is
�usc. a lrarger detail 6:awing. 'rhis :Ls lollgitul lnal suction throw-1n
t ,e north -south platform, Lipper level., th(: north -south, future araut-1 e' 't,
perpendicular and thu DPI level. Aciain, north-:iouth, east-wC:St levQ1
and tho DPi4 and coverd mall area with the retail space. Again, just
slime a',. Qrl..Argxriont of tho sle at?CtiGn showing the' sameL;j3ctCCr,. ri�jal.^.,
this 1.:; thu amide of tall; _C vert�d mull and I have another... all right.,
now Wu'ru r�Ging tc, (;c, throuch the floor plans. This is the grail: lcivC1,
nort.".-,Otlth i,llignm,1 nt, Blast-wet, Administration Tower, major ontranco to
tiiCl Com;I Iux. This l( v.;l is just. the DPP 10VC1 which has the Alain
k::n-cry to the total. syitum, turnL!tile�;, att.C:ndant booth, UPi-1 platforms.
T l-,i.i i.; i1.l U:; ir:a'i.us the: G::tent Of T.ho Construction for state one. The:
nuxt ;l:.ail w.Lll 3hriw you t,at t:iere's additionial construction or, thc. east
for :;tacjo two w:lictl i:, tj,osu vertical elements, cocalatorF3, an additional
ellvr; tor, Agi:in, t'.hifi is the east -west level which is going to be built
in scaqu one. This as the, tile white: portion is the portion we're building
now .,ut wilich will ix utili,l d in stage two. At stage Ono we will bridge
the quiduway to allow for, to allow to have a consistently interfaced
3"' 6 S LEP 1'5 z9pn
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Mr. Gdoski (continued): between the i)PM and the %uturu eXisti.ng nortii-south
platform. Again, this is stage two, the complete system. "i';e east -west
platform constructed to the full. 1C:iCjth Of E;ir: feet. Additional
vertical elements again, to allow for inter -face between the three
different leveis of transit, L"r'Pt, eas•c.-went, and the north -south. And
finally, the nort:t-5ouzi, platform, and finally again, just an
illustration of thu covered 'Mall once the whole complex is finished.
mayor Ferre: Thank you very much. That's a very nice prose::tatwn,
I'd li}:e to, I only havo one coanQnt and that is, I would like very much
r
for the designers and for the County to also give u;; before we finalize
on this whole: thing, how thi:; connects to thu City CompluX• I r:now
there is' a pedestrian mall at ground level, and 1 know t'— t .�C;'I L not
gO: nr to gut the sane ki-nd of a con:lection as the i!Qw Xotro ;S',, i!C,in`'
becauso ti,at's right next door,and it connects directIv, but I t:.i:.r: wc,
should have 30--' ;.i'tCl Of a studied idea aL to hoW 7eOii.l e W111 i3G el'ole to
yet off of the Rapid T.,ansit and -yet to the City bullC.inU3 t:.aL uric no:,
a dram but they are: under construction right now, and will he under
construction. That i have not 5Qen a4dr:6scd and we need :1,ut i1C1�rC5 ;i Ci,
okay? &ru there any questions or statements? Do we need any ac-,ion,
.r. manager?
,�tr. Fosmoen; No, sir, .mr. mayor.
ilayor Ferri: Ali right, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
:;blur 'urre: We're now on item... what was the other item we had a crisis
on? The DDA budget. All right, is Roy Kenzie still here or did he have
to ,o catch a plane? ill right, are there any questions on the DDA
budget as presented?
Mr. Plu-,-xxr: ,lr. mayor, I for one, who have been very outspoken in the past,
would to say than:; you to x.r. Kenzie who took the time to come to
ntv oificu to oxplain to me tiro new type of presentation which t—w DDA was
raai:ir.r, and to answer any questions that I had relating to the! budget. And
I think It is a vary hu l.thy type of pres::ntntion, and I'm sure in the
future will bo most beneficial to all of thcl Commissioners who arc asked
to vote in the final analysis;. + have, for one, no problem with tY.e budget,
and if it's in order, will offer a motion that it be approved.
Mayor Ferre: t'ather.
Father Gibson: SQco;id.
;dayor Ferre; A11right, there's a...wa'ro actually on item number seventeen...
hLr. "l.iavic;r: And e:ightee:r .
Mayor Fc rr•�-: Do you nuc:d four votes on that? We111 have to...i:o; , it's up
to YOU than to go yc:t OnV more vote, if you would. Get them out of
t2;e oificu.
xx. You dan't tiuc:d four voters. It's not an emergency.
Mayo« i•'err t : F it:,t and sucond ro"Qing. You need four votes, Mr. Knox?
mr. Ynox; yes, sir, on tnis oiler.
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Mayor Terre: Well we'll have anot'ur C0mmissioi:,.'r „3 a in c1 llorlCnt.
We're now on item number seventeen. :it's boon moved and seconded.
Read the ordinance on seventeen, please. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE DEFINING; AiVD DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL
LIMITS 02 "ITIE D05VNT0'd4 DEVLLOPMENT DISTRICT OF THE
CITY OF M.IA141 LOCATED WITHIN T16E TERRITPORIAL LIMITS OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAXATION, FIXING
'1"dE MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN THE DOKNTOWN DEVELOP-
MENT DISTRICT LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1980, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
1981; FIXING THE MILLAGE AT FIFTY ONE -HUNDREDTHS (.50)
:4ILLS ON THE DOLLAR OF THE NONEXEMPT ASSESSED VALUE OF
ALL REAL AIZ PERSONAL PROPERTY IN SAID DISTRICT AND
PROVIDING THAT THE SAID MILLAGE AND THE TAXES LEVIED
HEREIN SHALL 13E iN ADDITION TO THE FIXING OF rl'HE
MILLAGE AND THE LEVYING OF TAXES WITHIN THE, TERRITOZ AL
LIMITS OF iAiE CITY OF MIA:4I, PkiICH IS CONTAINED IN TliE;
G:E96RAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR Till: AFORESAID
FISCAL, YEAR AS REQUIF:E:D BY SECT::ON 30 OF THE C-°i'Y
CNAR'1TErt; PROVIDING THAT THEE FIXING OF THE MI'LAGL AND
LEVYING OF TAXES HEREIN SHALL B ' IN AD:)IT1ON .\0
SPECIAL ASSESSidENTS FOR INI:'�P/ROVEXiNTS I :POSED E',Y �1TH, F,
Li_,E CITY OLD
CITY C ,L.;',SSTGti 0:' "''='' :IA.;I CtiI ii:ti lu.,
Ti RRITOz-TAL LIiXITS 01 CITY 0'cMIAMI; PROVIDED THAT
THIS ORDINANCE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED AS REPEALING OR
A.%ILNDING OR ANY OTFIZR ORDINANCE DIXING ;1IL:,AGE OR
LEVYING TA:.ES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR B'EEGINNING
OCTOBER 1, 1980 ARID ENDING SEPTEMM ER 30, 1981 BUT SHALL
BE: DEEMED SUPPLF.MF,NTAL AND IN ADDITION Hr.RETG; Attu
PROVIDING THAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE OR SUBSECTION
SHALL BE' DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT SHALL NOT AFFECT
THE REMAINING PROVISIONS AND DISPENSING WITH "i'HE
READING OF THIS ORDINANCE ON wo SEPARATE DAYS BY A
VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE COMMMISSION
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Gibson for adoption pursuant to Section 9, Paragraph (f) of the City
Charter dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate
days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the
Co
mm
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Nona
ABSENT:
Commissioner Joe Carollo
4lhereupon tho Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer r,nd
seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by t}1e following
vote:
AYES: C01rmi.1;sionur J. L. Plunvaer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando 1,acasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: NOne
ABSENT: COMMissioner'Joe Carollo
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5 L. P 5198Q
ist
SAID ORDINANCE Why DESIGNAr 1ED N,0- 9151
The City ALtOrney read the Ordinancu int0 the pl):Dlic record end
announced that copies were availahlc-- 6,) the raemb(a r:; o;: :he City Cocanission
and COPiUS W(;fe Lfvailc''ibl to tl•e public.
,y��Y�,lf+ WJf''Rl .i'yfrr�, r .� i itJ'(�� Jylr t.•r'.1!! ry ,y"��� eC � n.C'1�..Y r Y t�, r. t• f. tot s rt r�r'{t LS v1 �, •t:vY +J� Cf!l.f 4�°i�
M4oL..il3i�iYWaadl'11SiriS' Sri.SdL+rM�•�W16.YNY�4YYY:3�1iy.�M L •s y •J.c_.'a. ..ay . r,.. _ .
{.rir.
`•' Fv� l�ia'.f:�'.'.'Cia.i L)..J...OPii...,t.. Ali_'0'�u.._ F'i:iC..i ...i_..::��i.',0
,'�''"t`.. trf �'�.��?+. °t't.��;+'7f v��'�i�+Y tc. h ft ' .''• s n r,;r trs :fir t't.• :ar ihr rY,...y —"
Mayor Ferry: Flurrsnet, do you retovu eightoen? ; pPpropriations?
I'r. Plur,viE!r. Yes.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
�'iuj'Jr r`t:Yrl cf.l YiQl1'L, 1'�S' b,�liri moved and seconded by Li1Case . Read
'C1ii: Jrdl�ta'nCi:: 0r, eig'-teun, first alit second reading. Cali the roll.
AN ORDINANCEJ-
AN AP!?R3111:.1ATIO;;S FOR rl"hE tDO'.." TO;,"A
A1V'2:•:;,r,1T! OF 1'ii E CTI'Y OF lvlili' .11 FOR 'i"FE
k`ISCP.iY:_r?. :aN'-'!.iG SiFPTE."111"EA 30, 1961; AU7EORIZING
a.L Or'Ti-'. DOWNTOWN DIE V1IP:;tNT Ai71"iOtS11
`11d i:vJlJ :: OR AD%r,,RT1SE FOi2 BIDS FOR 'i.HF, PURCHASE OF
LIA, 1111AT-I11TA%, r:t;1UTP:%u tirP OR S RV::C; IN THE
SAID FOR W:i::CN rO-"% 1A'- Bli.)DING iw>'! bE
OVIDING ariAT ThIS SHALL B ;
AND lil A DI ION TO Tclf OFDI: NN'CE MAKING
APPROPRIATIONS FOR T*,iE FISCAL, YEAR ENDING SF,PT1'.yj3ER
30, ;981 FOP: :r 0PI i,'ATION OF THE C11 OF M1.iP�.i,
PROV'ii.ING T:iAT IF ANY SECTION, CLAUSE OR
SUBSECTION SHALL BE DECLARED UNCONSTT':.-JTIONAL, IT
_......,., i:'- AF FI CT THE RF.%J %TWIG PROVISIONS OF THIS
Ci.JINANCE, AND DISPENSING WI911i THE; READING OF THIS
OFDINANCY ON 740 SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT 'LESS
HAN FOUIR-FIFTHS Or THE. COXMISSION
Was intvoduce-:l by COrrmiis!aioner P lur;uuLr ,and Seconded by Commissioner
Lacasa for adoption plirsuant to Scction 4, P;aracJraph (f) o�4 t,ie City
Charta:r (_—` zq o-sing with thu racYuirE:lilent of r( ,danc, ::;ame on two soparate
days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the
Commission:
AYF,S: Co-1 iissioner. J. L. Pluo ier, Jr.
Conutiissionr;.�r U1 Qv.) Theodore 'i;. Gibson
Vice-;•iayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferry
I:01:w : ii0„4:
ABS1:1411': CamnissionulJoe Carollo
Wit•::re-.ipon ',�hu %Commis.;ion on motion of COmrnissloner Plummer and
seconded by Corn;;,issionr.r Lacasa, adopted said ordinance by the following
vor-U .
AYES Cor;s:i:;sionen: Z;.• L. Piuirt'r.ur, Jr.
(Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
V.i.:e-bfayor Ar'.7ando Lacasa
Mayor Mauric(-' A. Fore
n•` j+� 'CONTr :l:'-D ON NEXT PAGE))
Y���y
Er 5
i:�:
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID OPDINANCL'' '�iAS D'�SIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9152
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies weare available to the public.
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Roy Kenzie: Mayor 'Fe:ru _end ric, fibers of the Col*,.-,Iission, YuSterday
afternoon I was in Detroit, at a Convention, the International Downtown
Executives Association, which are people similar to myself from cities
all over the world, and they N'?ry trying to choose a sitc. iOr their
cunventi.on .in 19831. And in contention for that considcriitlon w;ls tho
city of r'taltimcru, AkrGr., Cleveland, Cincinnatti, Orlan6o,
Tallahassee and ?-',iami. And when I entered, t:,, V,XA11 to iia;Ct_ a .)r.'sS,�nt_ation
on it-lia-mi, the first questions they G1ukt Pau Wo::O. �jLl? tiO:aa OU11Cernil;�
the riots and the rofuque.-i. And their con 5ideYiiLlJr1 1I1 L'i 2;aS Of ,site
seluctlon involved tn6 st'rei-,gth of t'ho local and
downtown is doing and how downtown can be viewed as a laboratory ror
the growing Avierican city and examples of what can be U,.r,e In tnu City.
And after we finished our pre3entation, and after. thuil' CiiliLt 2atlCtiS,
they voted to select �l.i�.:r,i. as the 1983 site for t.heli' convention whhich
may end up being oils: of th+ first conventions that wlll ae In cur new
confer"D11CG/convuntioll center. And I think- it's Si(jnificant th:it th,.:y
did choo5,3 that because t:'1i:y are vC1ry careful in t",;eir t.1Clioerations,
and 1 th .nk that thu Etvongt'h of the consideration reste-6 on the
activities downtown and the tremandous amount of growth and activity
that we've had in the past three years. I just wanted to let you know
that we were successful in that effort.
Mr. Plummer: You might be the second convention in the conference
center. The first one, 1 had the glory of bringing to the City, in 1982
will be the Florida League of Cities Convention.
idr. Knox: it will be thu third. The second one, 1 had the glory of
bringing, to the City of idiami.
7. I,,!,.i:xG PXPOR"_' ;:till : C:<iil^.,1^..:1T %:`c'J'i" :N POLICE
:10,2:ITUR PiR'=Lfr,,Ms LNCOU:?^.:,E11r :::) t^. Y^' : Jli:jIC1F1L SYS TL.'1
Mayor Terre: ill right, we're now on itLim number "B". Would Mr. Krause
and...
Mr. Plununer: You have to understand, Mr. Krause, that the Mayor never did
lu, n "A", "L1" and "l:".
Mayor Forre: All right, sir. Chief, how are you.
tor. Krause: Mr, Mayor and members of thu Commission, Chief 'farms and I
sur;mittad a progress, report, datod September 2nd, which has been
disbri.buted t�, o t..he Commission. it indicates that we are on
schUdu1C: at tl-1:5 1:J1r,C.. The Police Department has made appointments from
a Civil. Suivice rogi.3tur that expired on August 21st. On that saran date,
we created a new rega.ster with two hundred and sixty-two mimes on it.
The Polico Zo ,artmont is processing those candidates. In the meantime,
we are: now recruiting for future exams. And as of last Friday, we had
two hundred and thirty-nine candidates. -The only thing that constitutes
0 9;
a.tr. Krause (CUntlnueti) . a pr•Gi;.Lc,, for us is *ne t A.-_ ficulty in getting
the Consent Decree amendinent to permit recrlll,.I:t2nt and appoin`zient of
people who live outside: the City o- vi.arU. 1h C1Ly and t,le Justice
h'1 -
f7CliartmC:nt rt:i1CC.C:<] ar: dCjrE;Glf:�?nt or, L:i<3t. i..�. 1:1�.1' Attorney filed 'anotion with tat c uc:real COLirt, in the, Ted`.r CCUrt ::v alai rlCl the
Consent D,. icrtiu. 1'1-1<: F't dCtri1211 GY':; is ,. ( Avi1C a i; i Q a mo? ion asking
for a hearing, and asking for :a further amen(L'aurlt of the Consent Decree
to reduce 'the, hi.rinq goals In order to reflect the: stet(: wide! labor
market ratht:: than the Citv of N,ia.i1i labor mar;:4t. ThL. F .!dera: judge
has asked the attorneys to mkIet and ii1C A sti-,oulat:iOn On What i'-Sue!S
are involved. 5. an advised that t:iia:. ra(.eting will tctrii: place tomorrow
etftei'noon. Thu duaaline for filing 4:itii the c'car gal Court. is Thursday.
xn the VA-1dnL1111e, i.•t-,u City Attornc;y may be able to give ./ou a :)(!tter
idea than I car; now long, is will ta:c. My yu' JJ is that it will take
a month t'o perhaps six weeks to get a C LC15iG:i our of the Fudcl'al COUrt.
And it it appears that way after the i1 G`i;i(j zomo'rrow, _ would` hopa
it would not be inconsistont with th.. CC%(;::11.6S' il1':J .;,OtlOii if Zhu nolice
chief and I were to duciGe th"L it wo111_i CX.>tC.ltt ti'.111g'3 to prOv du
tC!Stln(j for pt:OjAL who art: city resid ntu while wu arc waitin,7 for an
amend.munt to the Consent Decree.
;ayor Perre: is tiler( and injunction?
: C.r::u. Wall t.il.iat'., 1y''hat (..hQy'rL... W1'l a'i. 1_;1cy UfU S(:arC",1nCj
a.
lets put�:tl:, .:a•i�Ilt On top Of <.�,c i..:bl.(: LUYL :iCUc.rt for `n'hia% it lE;.
ori: arc O::;F li Jl ll Aditliir. zhu 'u:i'iOn C.� at aY 1eil^ut r.t c1(jalri ;t
A.'' 'l1TaaL'1Ve action, for w'hd:' ...and I la,"I� c_ ArIG, t;O1•ieaiiTt@F; pc(,L�le Ciro
aff,.,c':uc per:,onal,y. fu^^:. r;i�y fuQl then L' ht it ujward mobility is <;oing
t:0 bG iaffCCtu<i. .",C' :7 Ct. 1S, th:lt today i ldil: haei 1,350 black polieu;liC
than it did tun yk:,arS ,ago. find thu fact ice, that All that thi.o really
m; ans is that this is another zubtorI.uge whurt: a yrouil is trying to
utili.::c tiler maneuv(:ring '.fitl-lin the .laid to utali::(: tliu lard, which means
tht: Consent. :)ccrcci, to l7,::t vent ua f::om hirircj vnore black3 and latins. And
the fact is th.it they're:' not goin,j to b,2 s,ucC.,ct3szfV-1. The :flat also
is thilt o nett a(a ain wulr,: getting stall, d. 'We're getting pu:,ntd around
and We're going around in a Circle. You know, dnC. as long Lis they
c"n Xuap that circle, us chasing our to i..... , this thing's been Doing on now
:GY or ScVin AQ}:Cc) chasing
lig our 'call. And now ri:,ctt
thov're do.ing 1.3 t:ht:y'ri, saying, as was said at that union meeting when
this; matter was, by that very enlightened Captain that we all know is such
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an opt:ned rr,ind�d :aniurican who knows right ytom wrong and who is an
enlightened individual, what he in offoct says, is the City chose this,
now let t'n—m wallow in it. And lc:t them live with the' consequences of
w hat they've: done. ,vow, that's what htI says. But you know what the
undt::rlyin(j thing is? Hoy, wr dcn't want anymo):e of those: t^ubans or
t;,os;e bloc;•:; aro-"nd "-,ere. That' a what _ . r•l ally -loans. And I'll tell
you, I wali'c to t.v_` I you, that you Iluud tJ go, Mr. Knox, before that
F'edc'ra.l court, and I want you, if you would, to take that ccrtaln Captain
if he':; there, and le;t hi1Y, say that to the: judqu. Let him have: the
courage and :,ay Liiat publicly before, tiii: 4!a of Cite; people of Miami, as
to what he roall.y and le'cs briny out raw racism and put it right
on top of the.: table. Now, I think that thostr p�.ople who feel :hat way
s oull-1 not nixie be,nint1 the lVederal courts a,:d titu gains playing, and I
thin:-: they ought to be oxposud for the rriw rapists. Arid what they ought
to do i:: go to :iouth Africa whore thuy would bc: a lot happier than they
,AVu ill With rCqdrds to the: GuQstion of wilo is t]o-'n(j
ri : k'l. no46 I,noro policemen, we need no-ic,2men
tlu.ic:xiy. 1 r.;ii:ik the iniativo that was taki:n by Commissioner Carollo
;ihould he ;,ur,: uucl wltil v clor, ;1nd Coi-,imi:;L'loner Pluminerr, 517ould hr- .JUrsue.4
Wi.tii V:Lejo2: tiind citaalifiod policemen within th(_,
City of Miami, cerr:ifie, and I would prefer that they be Miami residents,
but if thuY can't, iT,:i;t go wherever ... however, we cannot in any way 'lower
tht.' standard;- oi' what" lil,akoss a good policeman. Bocause: I've 'heard, and
till_. i:. all here say,:nat :,omet imcs, norall of the pe:oplu that wt: have:
takun" a trbi, hopufltlly a vc y few are ro"Ily noL up to the standards of
whin tno Cli:y of Miami nas, had in the ',a;t. A(_ Cannot pC::rzit that to
:,appo ' :'iicl. 1'%t 'VE CDC'(.O do evt21yt' tilt, Wi ur 1 wta. Got'.''. know:.
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t:tat :,Obody is for .:._?'1Y,',uL1V actio:t ltlore- that. this Comiission. Certainly
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Mayor rerre(continued): no more than I am, yet I don't think that we can
in any way jeopardize the welfare of the community by accepting into the
ranks of the police force people that are not up to the: standards, the
high standards that: this Commission has always demanded, and that the
department has always, implemented. And I think we've got to be very
careful with that, and if it takes to comply, that these two hundred and
sixty-nine people be moved along, that's fine but I think, I would hope
that you would tell that judge when you meet with hint, we nt:ed a quick
resolution because we need to qo out and really start hiring.
Father Gibson: Mr.. Mayor, I'm sorry, go right on, :sir because I want
to ask a couple of questions.
Assistant Chief +,ichacA Cosgrove: Just in response quickly to your statement
about tho standards, during the last suveral months since, wa became aware
t.har. we would be bringing on additional officers we've taxer-, every pre -entry
level selection coin nor,�.nt that has any ir„pa;c- on the :.'e:lt?ctlon of an
officer, and have shored t:,at up to wh(:�rt: there will be absolutely no
loss in standards. And I'd say right now that our standards are better
today than what t}'.ey have been In the past., and we're not just cranking
bodies through the system.
Mayor Ferre: Those= two hundred and sixty-nine, Chief, how many of those
are Miami residents? Are they all Miami residents?
Chief Cosgrove: All those are Xiami residents that are an this current
register that we're currently processinC, .
.'a'_'.1 r Ci)son: Mr. Mayor., I want to ask a question, Who are the recruiting
officers 011t Lhere askint7 people, or seeing that you use as the object,
(german l:.hrase)
Mayor Farre: That's Father's German phrase. You'd better explain that one
Father Gibson: Thu7 kr..ow what 1 mean. Who are the recruiting Peoples who
are: out there saying, hey look, I want you to come and be a policeman.
Who are they?
Chief Cosgrove: The .ecruiting program is predominantly...
Father Gibson; No, rto. I don't want the printed program. I'm talking
about the people. I,'-ne man, the human being whose blood runs down the
vein. That's who I'm talking about. I want to prove to this Commission,
the hill of an arg,.ment we had this morninq. I want to prove to this
Commission that Gi.'ason is wrong. Tell therm.
Chief Cosgrove: 4;e have police officeri;, multi -ethnic police officers...
Father Gibson: Nulti-who?
Chief Cosgrove: Hispanic, black, anglo wV:ncn, all in the comarunity currently
recruiting fo:: our program. WQ'vo also tiea in a: large amount of our
recruiting program With community groups trying to gat personal referrals
from individc.als who feel that they might know somebody who would be an
effec:tiva OV.ficer With the ,Miami Police Department.
eathor Giw6on: Wbo are the three people who finally :Hake that decision
and recom,.mend to the Chief?
Chief Cosgrove: Thu...
rather, Gibson: You have three, who are they? You know who I'm talking
abe:u+. .
Ciria�f Cosgrove: The selection board, there are three people who sit on a
sel,.:ction board...
Fa',:her Gibson: kight.
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Chief Cosgrove: ...However, those throe,
the::Q z-,u-Vc.--- bQGn a
candidate eliminated frain the (inaudible)
seluctivQ ........
Father Gibson: I didn't ask YOU thac- 1
szlid arc:
C*.-Licf Ccjz�grovo: They "re P011cu OfL-,cC:',vs
ijlso frOill. Lhu Police
De.partzent.
Father Gibson: Wn,) aru they.
Chief Co4grove: Well there's suvural.
Father Glb<,on: 1,40, I'to Mart. tied, 60n-c. cc.),,T,Q up "-,L.rQ cjivin,� 7c that today
because you know, I'm alroady angry about
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what T t"l-,k I sec and here.
,Niy. Plummer: 0j;-lat JoLit'i-,or wanrs to knew, is
ther:hatOn :At koard
thore a Cuban,..
C-A.'rison: Do you have r-hrQt-, ind
one of t*-1L!. is a Is,, I z
that true?
C, - C: o ) rove "4atos
Fc,t1-.C.x Gibson; 0"", C'mon.
chitif c03grovc; ._jj-,6 ;Djacks 6r ,) sit or, that board.
C.: G i n In r.wn 1% r '/c)u �.r.OW
-oncj &go that no-,o'y `-"-tenucAtc t v. �1:� C! f, 0 ` a
1.C.: j...- rho tol, ima,-1 15 sa"j.c.g, rahl'.., is wll-,at.,!tS qoinq to 11),!. all the other
gut tAhLL'.C::;ud je. Vicy :1thC!r Cact iz. or th,.Y h,:,Vu to Cjc-t out.
.ou ki1GW what !"m talki.-,q itbout. L 0 Ok , .1 G 0,-, ' t W:arlt V 0 dO "-Yi-lo`:u t0
you tlran w1n,at 71m. doing. I ,,, saying that the Pooplr-- that n a k e
and the cbicf doui;nit make it. `2hozu three p(:
recota:,-,(::nd, You know wh:itls happening and 1 kr.o%q what'5 Inappening. And
I have a p,;,rLiQuiar case 'r, mind too, and I went you all lzo clean up your
ants. You kno"i,- what I'm tal -,in g dbout. YOU hLiVQ t,nrctc PLOPICI Whc are
arld no, a doq, gone 0,.e of thuM iS black. You
1,.-.owNq,jjaL I sjid were you here" You know, ier you here when
y %, e -
wo had all than. dicus-;;ion? okay, b,,r. Mayor, I want to prove L•hat I'm
not a fool". : tijouSjt I'd get t,,Ii!-, chance. See, ch yeah, 01h Yeah.
Y. r . P 1 uram C r ; i :,uggcst that you go bacil: and furnish to 'Father the
list of nEmius, an& az; we have boon doing in the past, for the -past
twelv%• nxnth6 of. Who arc., the people who havt:. on that board with a
L frov lati", you know, and �-7.o that ling. let Father see for
himself.
Father Gibson: And Make suru when you co;,,ic, don'c c0r-w2 to m-z- knowing that
iS tr--*-uL'1-1n-ic hur,:!, that 1 wl-int t(, and seen, -:i::d understood.
You can't thin:-. �or me, man. you buen thin%.ing call
thc,�,,e years ana you didn't think tight.
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,-,,�iyor Ferro: All right, woU16 yol; do that within the nc!xt couple of days?
Y L SI.0 if YOU dClnl'tl I'M, COing to be Or-0 Of
tho-'--c "-uv- T` b IT, quing to vote the bUdgot.
Mr. rurL,110: -',C!t ML: SVU if T can L::-.C14l:Stanc. 2a*:hEz Gibson hens. Cord -act
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:,Io 1.`. �Irc, wring,'1-atnur. wbcc he wants is to havo the c-chnic
Z;L, thllt he Car. 3-Q it, of the poopl,:: that are on this board out re:ruiting?
mr. 'vo, no. 'ii'he:.t is saying.. .
1' a t 'h C.-r '.'; i bs C) r : T Wi.-4-,: from top to'bottor,, On t-A'OrY becctu::,i! 1 know
wha-r-'s hapix-ninq, iti,u danger. And you aren't fool-ng anybody. just
lilku yo%i w-..,rit to SCIIGGl, 'I wont to school. Okay. 4`u!3t like You know
how to munipulatQ, I knew now to manirjula:& and 1 know the manipuiating
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Father Gibson (continued) : is, goincj Oil. Arid don't till ilia It isn't, ; r.
Manager. I am holding you responsible because all they do is
recommend. And you know what I'm talking With ::lose th,cee rnen I
want a black face in there. You have those people Out there saying, hey
come join us. I want. a black Yacc ill tha'c. VulribUr. Thai's what i:'m :,ayi.ng.
You know, I tried to be polite up but I've discovered that,hell
nobody cares anything about my being ,polite.
mayor Terre: I think it's clear. Now Chief, before you leave, following
on, and this is : Lally more J. L.'s thing than it it., rrir,c and 1 `m going
to let him carry the ball if ha want: to, after I m,ke this initial
statement, and Joe Carollo, botri. t. 'f:ii0'ri that In the next day or two
you're going to be announcing some figures on the crime rate in this
community. And I know that it's (joing to be shockinC� to sorrio 2eo?le to
see what's happening and I want to tell you that in the .last wc:a}: I have
beer, maybe to fifteen to twenty ::unctions, and the one: thing that every
body tells me, black, white, anglo,latin throughout i� crime:. That's what
everybody in this town is all up6eL about. The Little havana area and
the Trail, it ... willic Gort came to me, old man GOrt Says that ir, twenty
years that he's buun in business here iu:' ; riuv1-r had to have cz _,hut
door and now lie hzis to lock it. lie says that the bru;9'kir cJ an6 untriCS
are just unbelievable, t,,,^,at the panhandling and the level of crime has
gone up, and I don't r,eu�d any Statistics to know whc,t...I }:not+' what it's
going to be, they're going to be dramatic. I mean to tell you that
t!e have: got to pull the plug, and as Mayor Bennett maid t t:: other flay
in Hialeah, we need to declare a real honest to goodness wdr on crime
a.n this community. I would like to make in the form of a motion, or have
Plurraner or Carollo if they w tr;t to MLOeC it in the for.. or a motion, and
I want you to Cor.%Q 1)aclk hul%• On thu Mtn, this is a policy matter for
the City of Miami Coiraaio:;ion, okay? Teat anybody that is superfluous
under the high crime wave ti:at wu'ru now having in administrativ;, :jobs
within the depart hunt be immed.iatuly roleasod to go back on the: F. t-,:eet.
And I'rn specifically r.t;ferring to Y<ecords Department, Report Scroeni.ng,
Property Unit, Crime Prevention, and Scnool Resources. And please
und,:rstand, I am stroi',gly for the School Resource officers but as long
as we're: having tho impact of crir.e .increase, then I an, afraid that we
Just simply cannot have these unir5 functioning. I'm not saying that
we'ru to kill those, or to cancel those functions. I am saying that
t.ntil we have eight hundred and f.ifry sworn officers, we ought to put
that on the back burner. And I'm sorry for the school system, but I mean
to go right to the...not to the bone, to the: marrow. And it's going to
hurt, I'm very sorry, they're very progressive programs, they are pace
setters in the nation;,ie're making major breakthroughs, but right now
every available officer has got to be out on the street, and that
meant, all parts of Miami. And therefore, she: sense of this motion, whether
it's made by somebody else or I make it doesn't really matter, is
that by the 25th day of this month, which ai Thur:;day, September, that
you come back here nor, with a plan, but with the imp1w.ontution of, how
you have released, how many Plummer? Th� .- seventy or eighty people that
are in administrative positions to go back to field operations and that
means that if we need to get civilians, or if we need to supplement, or
if we naed to let some of those programs ride, i want to tell you this,
I would like to s ee, I know the Property Unit is very important, and I
know that the ;records Department...but if it means having one less
breaking and entry, or one less crime in ;.his community, then I think
it's worti-, putting off, if w� need to.
Mr. Carollo: I have no problem it -,moving that motion, Mr. mayor, I'd just
like to acid that, you know, and I hate to say I told you so, because I
know all the prophets we have on the Commission, we might not be able:
to hold one more here...
mayor Ferre; well this is Plummer's idea, really.
mr. Carollo: ,,.but T tola you so. I kept stating again and again, that
we Have a treniondous shortage of police personnel. I don't think it's
the fault of the fine men and women that we have working for the Police
Dup�:rtrtunt. This is a airuct fault of thhortage of police: officers
that we have on the streets. And by letting thirty, forty, fifty more
people out on the streets is going to be helpful but it is in no way going,
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those figures again, :;:.. mayor and ::ti:laars Thu City of
Miami has ap proxiriatc!ly one poi:,t nine, if ont3
thousand citizt:ns. %:.d that's tj6iny on 1 t �-i: thousand
people popUlat-'on ACCuiliiy, our :i��,,iUid'::iGC, is i:..o-i`:'Y: -,.0 f::illr
hundred thousand or d:OVi , so . , c:Gai::" tO :)nu Jll, r -Lvc, One point
Six. Lut on z..t'.at ::,OpUlation it'.i one i''no .ivurage
amount of manpower in c�najOr cities, in the countrf O- iotiulations of cl
C.Uarter of a mi:.l.ion or more like. ;,Uasai. 4s znruc; ?c;in: 3:ivu ?Olice offiv,!rs
per O%r. v-hoiisar.d citl::ans. Wu are about "taif, If n t !()wi r than half C ;. what
We .7houia bc. Ai,v CVE:ri When .'.l. ty �iOli%, O[.';.C�rS,
:;worn 'CC) be aa,,- 1--,Qt_'e n�.ar
t:C,OU(ji, Cl: W--2. :>f+ould ii�l.ve. A c:.CV o.Z i3OYi ;ih 1G :,aVE
C th*s lU:i::iii>;iiuf. ,ci t:,ci ;rC iilii: J:_
zo tal': ::,vn :%, .. C:OG' .. Cart frox, wneru, to .'..iC �L' _,.�,. i.�Gr r'Gi.,,Ct:! J::paru:',vrit
our ; in .)ii';'>clGt::i.ci,i., 1{: naiGl?Q, Llli r'1tj,it C,iiw
Wt? ou( -t i;G Jo « .:,ucau,ie_ thilt. i.: our
t0 $tCn Ll.+'t:.i W 1cive one tnousunr: ,:tl. L'o r:,iLUtt Of�iC eZ'u SCOri,
not C:+ruC, ::+Cir, .: iv,'. VGci`.'3 Groh, now.
Mr. P'11.uwntar: Mr. uyar, may 1 Speak to the iLSUL" pli]aSu?
Fo' u. Woll. thore'S a motion on thi: ' loot'. Le-c6 jeuu if we can cict
a stcond.
:'VU (act: proLler,s with tht:: motion, even riOUyii y0U .ti i3O'ri
Wnure I'm COmiiltj from. So...
:;ay,jr r'err ,, ;tie11....
Mr. Plww-,cr: ii0al._7 you withdraw it, JoLG, to let Liu z;pcati
M . C,.rollo: '1u anuau, 7. L. , I withdraw.
Mr. Plu.-,ncr: '-tr. m•tayor, I don't ever, as c-,uch as I'd like to be ?olice
C:iiiuf, : think t1nat'., 4jri;tty well ;mown, I am r.ot cioini; to a*,ib t:.it.ut-? my
tnino:in j ,, r zntt oxpt:::C W.;O is tilt_ Chief. iNir, "xjor, T Would be much,
muc:, mart C :i.,�Ortai7iu 'ai--h a motion of this COmrr,i6sion of policy Which
bxis to the C "ki , ?/t Want nort: mun On :hQ .3 `
, ,iitrt3C.t. T',itit LS tl-i4 bOt OGl
1 inte. But ., CiGI'i't think this CO:ni+: ss icn ,.3 ho-,Ild ..::::+:i t i to to 1.ts krowl edge
for tldt of t.'40 ch.lu.- of imap:ing the decision from Where thJ:ie people
CO+i,i3. 1 thi.ni.- that's :.hu way that the motion should be worded. The bottom
li:)c is still thc_' siu::u. i'ie Wan',: nova - -n on t:hu .3tree L. Az*o1 thore 4 s
Other C,re:as that: .L frool that we're cjoinq to havi: to make somodi.rect-Lon,
on pretty soon in thu same situation. but ! don't avant to s:ly that they
cO:t'1t? il'om ;,fire, and from, hi rt . I-arsonally, Will have ;;such
better comfortable feeling of :a moo -ion '.:itch says to the Chiel:, this
CGrarr,ission wants more men On t 4a street by Si-tt-,,mblr the 25th ar,d let hill
c►o the imtic:mentation,
Mr. Carollo: 1 will z,uy the motion, J. I., with th(a exct;i)tion tl-,at we
,navi: th-� last word, and iE we don't think it's enough, to then Instruct
the c ief, get more. ,
Mr. Plur:.:ler: If he do, `,in't road betwean the lines : Qtween now and the
:J �. , .iion Plc havu to wr: to new lines. But L have t:'+e fad.th t.'lat fie I I .
,Mayor Ferro: Al: ritjht, there's a motion, now do you second the motion?
:•1r. 131wmmur.: YOB, sir, _ r>econd the motion.
Savoc P::r u: -iucorna. Okay? a:, that under:;tood, Chief. Do you have
a clo"r understariding a:; co where; We're going on this? All right, call
the roll.
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The following motion w , introduced by Coitmissionur Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
Z40TION NO. 60-625
A POLICY MOTION 0!" Thi], CT:'Y COMMISSION Y:::':tiESS!NG
VEIR FIFV, DESIRE THAT MORE i N ;FOX,' D, SW'O:ti:C POLICE
OFFICERS BE PUT BACK ON THE STREETS, BY SEPTE:%ILER
25, 1960, AND REQUESTING T-HE CHIEF O POLICE TO
COME BACK TO THE CITY COYu-iISSION TO EXPLAIN HOW cIF
IMPLEMENTED THE PLAN
Upon being seconded by Comimissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Coraaissioner Joe Caroll'o
Commisjioner J, L. Plummer, Jr.
CotmllisJSiones (Rev.) T'r,aodore R. Gibson
Vi.ci�!-:•favor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
hw . Plummer: bir . Nayor, can we get back to the i tr:,,7?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: b:r. Krause, you :now, it's alright to wa..ve these flags
that there are dangers. But lets come to reality. The FOP is exercising
its option for whatever it is. I did not hear you say that they have got
an injunction to stop the City from recruiting.
mr. Krause: No, sir. we are continuing to recruit.
Mr. Plur„mer.: All right, sir. I didn't hear you say anywhere along the
line that the goals which we, the city, set forth are not going to be met.
Mr. Krause: It.will depend on what the Federal court does with the motion
by the FOP, I believe, sir.
Mr. Plummer: That's not acceptable, Mr. Krause, that's a cop out. Cop
out. That was a pun, I'm sorry. We've got too many cops out. Go ahead
sir.
Mr. Krause: It is my understanding that the ordinance that the Commission
adopted July 24th, setting an eighty percent hiring goal is legal because
it is consistent with Section five of the Consent Decree which says
that the long term goal of the City shall be to have in all jobs, at all
levels, a representative work force that reflects the labor market of
the City of Miami. You know, I don't want to give you a legal opinion
but since there is a court case involved, it would seem to me that if
the Federal Court amends the Consent Decree in such a way that the hiring
goals of the City are not as, are not based on the City's own labor
market but arc- instead based on the sta_(�:-wido labor market, then wa
would probably be required to abide by the amended Consent Decree rather
than the City's ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. rrause, I'm not buying that, sir. Now let mu tell you
why I'm not buying it. At the time that this Commission gave the new
direction to hire more police officers, the recruiting wasn't even
discussed. Now, I hope you're: not telling me or looking for an out which
says to me that. if the. Federc-,1 Court doesn't do what you want them, and
what thi: Commission wants them to do, that we're not going to meet those
goal,. I'm not goinz, to buy that, sir.
tdr. F'osmoen: Commissioner, you have two things in pla,`. �;�„o; r one;,
an on -going recruitment process; but numberp,two, is second policy by the
City Commission that says that eighty Percent of those shall be
minorities.
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the eighty percent, all r:.ght, si.:. ihit th:• ::Ourt Ccn-L: ation was no,;.
in Effect at: that tiil'{l i. i':, .af L:',d if in fac:', the, co'ul:t sayC;, whCLher
it's tnL( ?,3p lVilo force :.1:1 1 ;L!c , of tii G"ollrt i G L: , no, you can't
go out of :r,('. area, .. wouic, r'_.all::C: that
pai a,-,,ount in t ni:, ^. i,i'Gll'.l ii lty :i ; Lilit ,iu¢: i1 tvY uooli, Gn tn._. St-CCt:, iiit�tG'Vl'�'
Color, whatev:•r th—,,y are:. e,Q .,L� dc,.Lng what:
we Can to i,,;li e the ...1n Sity thur'.. i1i,t I would hopt; taC'
eighty ;?c.._ C71'_ : u—.i6:1 ojo,_. reiijjY.c: 1.4-1 that Federal C:)'urt Says i,G, that
talat eighty ;)(scent r,ao got to drop.
Faoiiloc:Ci: t;UQrt a'b we find Unt:: of your )G _iCi@ in
,conflict viCit t:,( CC.ii.1'ul Co*-. t• d c:lblon, wulru go).nq to be "c% here
talking t:: you il:.
%,Ir L�l�J: u'tlt�2'. 0-,ay, auli 1 .:,.:jJU c,vt: ybo.iy
;ct �...�c•_ii.,.:',, ;:r. eras:._, for Octo:,,�.. ls:.? c'Gr .,C:.vC�.. .....ii.�., t(.r•:e'
wefe}:;;; Troia Wort'.
xr. :`.ri['1:,t:. ':hG 1S no4! tvG
L".".4z 'r!C yaVG t,iU:Ti On AliV,USC 21oC, Lc l:i i.ly .,'.CI•::Y:tuai:iliJ
:.h.j%: ,..ie: .J �:ti;�c C'C. to nave a cla,-,6 of approxi:ll..lr Lly tC.a.i'tl, • C1VC Jt_•G�
0 G'�l1't or, f1CtU Cr f�' L, 1aL"aC.r t:li:a:i C�;tober lsz.
Mr. Hu:v;C:r: T.',lr y-..�VC: D11 V LU:.• %ti:
:,r. 'i.:riat t s : nc Qi 1.0 e i)epa!"L'.1e 1.'t t :i
t::l,:yt:t.
Mr. ...�.l:i,.;..::Y.. 1iul.... •..11iC:.. you C,o1i�t CGi.L':,unlCatt�, lc:--s ask t-.1Qm. PUlice
hf11.Cf \.G'_;ijL'LC,:iC': f�Cli, WOtYC GrupaY(1Ca c.t th...3 timo to L'i:tir abGut
tlll'.y"'fil't_ i;co,1,: into the cr:,ailu:T,'J, ciL T.aU .L:,;;Clt'.:iLCS. i:ictt�y t0 f.)e cff
t:ia. CUrr :it regi:;ter. :'Hit will bu oat first )roue Cjc.ing t:lrough.
Mr. Plummer: All ki'=ji,t. What about t.,u t;uconci'
Chi,:° Cosgrnvu- e.jl ,rl :•: ililt;ul!1 once? every :iionth for tho niat to 3oven
wi ' ,.l Nave approximately thirty-five people going through an
aCaCian,, Class.
iQL.'nil .y-:ive? okily. `:r. C.oi(jrmight
tW 'LV; wiil(1.^ t UVc,',
. o VOu CYA, you put on the recorCi of why Vol, � re jivri' t(J� ay
.`:r . r o:iiilGi: n : Ti,C Cni tit o : a t G: ':C)wn .
Mr. Pi.tli:: er, i f:ru ik it would be n7.CC to *ut on the rC3COra way 11e t s out
of town.
Mr. FGSG,oen: Fie at. the International Police Chief' S Conferen t.: _n St.
Mr. nlu=idr: I haVi:: no "Urt ur Gu,::ScioIls.
A111 LiCjaL, -s t":,cre any other quastionl; at t},iz, tip i , a:1✓
other stc-Arc:1Gnt1; Gn. . .
;C, l'lumTi/_r: you frlow, just to your Col':U cnts, il:'. YQ'i 1G.G1J
rj, ybo o.%,: of r.i:L problem:;?
1M.1yo-r .'Crr,:: Gutl:, in YwaV but you GQ(::, also tfty proble::.T, lz; zhat
the City of vdaw owmat loyislate eau n control because thAt 15i cl
lc'(J.islilti.vc O1.1L"tJ1:.
Mr. C.itTNW; Than is I GrYe'i:L, .'•:'_'. ..lyCit
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Mayor Ferret The City of Miami cannot got involved in the legislation
of guns. And the fact is, that New York has a law which I wish to God
we could implement, which is anybody caught with a gun gees to jail one
year, I mean illegally. If you have a legal permit to carry a gun that's
one thing. But you know, everybody is a victim of this. Policemen
are victims of this. There are more policemen that are killed because
somebody has one of these illegal guns. And the way New York has attacked
that is anybody who does not have the right to carry a gun and is found
with a gun goes to jail for one year, period. If we could do that in
this state, and in this community, I guarantee you'd cut down crime.
Mr. Pltunmer: well but you see Mr. Mayor, the, problem is we have a law
that says, in the: State of Florida, that anybody committing a felony with
a weapon is a mandatory three year sentence. Sir, 1 beg you to look at
the results of how many convictions were made with felony involvement, and
find out, if in fact, a so called mandated sentence was implied.
Mayor Ferret That's because the judges just don't —the problem as I've
been saying, time and time again, in the Criminal Justice System, the r,*or
cops end of paying, you know, everybody dumps on them and the fact is,
that the policemen are the ones that are not to blame on this t;.ing. It's
the judiciary system which time, and time, and time again lets these
people off without stiff sentences.
Mr. Carollo: What I'd like to have the Chief bring to us at the next
Commission meeting, Mr. mayor, is a breakdown of how Many citizens in
the City of Miami, in defending their lives and their property, were
forced to kill an individual. Because I. think, we talk a lot about
the homocides in Dade County but we're forgetting one important thing, that
oneof the best asserts that we have arc citizens that are armed and know
to defend their lives and their properties. And I think that today's
crime rate in the: City of Miami and in Dade County is the best example
that we could show that citizens have to have the right, that they do
have by the Constitution of the United States, to arm themselves and
protect their lives and their property. And I would like to have a
breakdown on that because I'm very curious to see it.
Chief Cosgrove: Speaking of specific incidents that have occurred?
Mr. Carollo; Sir?
Chief Cosgrove: Speaking of specific incidents?
Mr. Carollo: Well I'm speaking of 1979 and 1980 now.
Mayor Ferret All right, is there anything else to come up?
Father Gibson: Mx. Mayor, let me ask this question. Why aren't we
addressing, or why don't we address the criminal justice system? And I
don't mean in a letter. You know, unfortunately, Mr. Mayor, you and I
know we are bombarded with letters.
Mayor Ferret Well I'll tell you what I have asked the City Attorney to
look into and preparr� and come back with recommendations as to how
the City of. Miami can monitor the judicial system on those areas that
affect t.hu citizens of Miazd with our laws. Porphaps we might select
or« ov two siecific areas and we obviously cannot act as a judge on
Judge:, but I think certainly we could print in newspapers, every quarter,
or every six months the result of how judges are acting in their respective
;urisdiction. Perhaps that might enlighten the community.
,dr, Plurunur; Vw. . Mayor, Grace Rockafellar and company, have proposed
at their last meeting, that they are going to do just that.
Father C,ibson: What I had in mind was, I am sure the judges do meet.
Suoms to me that we, the Commission, the five of rus, need to meet with that
group and express our concern and our 'anguish. I just don't understand
how you could be t%rrosted in Coconut Grove, today, this morning at ten
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Father Gibson (continued): o'':ioc , th,:�y al',: f0u Clown to the j�lil, you
know, you're boor:cd ancA all that, iin(C py f C 'L 111� Jl i� _tC. z:'. CO;T.d OU
one door, the person Wish 'N,is arre:;l:t:id CG1Ti S Out tney
meet each other Out theru. NOW, ti,at' S r,Ot r1 11U. I.n'] yCu 11t i:d.. .
Mr. roil 1-to LOW, i''iitfN l' 1::; Lhat waa t',le Su.,gDeCt
i5 out before the tlnluhus h15 jJc1i)r Z�rlCi F .
Father Gi6:c-n: And L peo: ?lu Wllo, the peo1.:.C: who 11V•:� 1:, ttli;! co ,..unity are
FYtI'i'P.1t3lV Yt'.ti3CC'It a'nu \/t ;,h1111C YNl1nCt'.i.t1C ,:r iibtlUt U::t:..L�illij or
giving G. dl,y .tiled fi ::c:L:Se they fi(_1 That. tit..:. is V%az' u fla�� )onin(j
A;1Cl ooineh0w, 1 =,U:;t tl.lf.f. .tat 'JU, til LO::�:1 .�'ui:, OUC;' it t') Cx a way In
which wo c0\,l(i ;-iuCr, e53 t:7 i JUl ' 1 dc'n t Gieail an 0oe" Court, wnon all the
]UGCjI):. ar... (',�.:U....a jt::c. .. ai�0 .:f'.ir,.. ,.:lt_: t'v1iC�: .�Ci:•UI:L...,_`T.:. .'tCUd:i LG uCfires;
thC,;l . t:J:iUi _ �iiC y Csn_ u•.._ you t0 UG that. .'iT, tal.:].n:',r a iJtt to i VC OL u ,.
T."iQ1 be -'it o::a:11".Li: A.s W"'Uil Wu Went to ",iia:;nilttjtUn ,..)t' CGL'..jr
th;:: public c:uuds -cc) t:Vurylx-dv wt:a;: : ayl;iC, t•i,i',i cil'u 111 C):: ti:em UP',-lerc
tO�ay.tl'at• riCh1 . oll'. Walt a Minu::C:, i CjGt tC:itll:iG::y. `j':te
Asi3istiiinz Clt;' Mar.,at;;U'L', Wa,31i' L t:,u'C. Wl,at l:i 't(1C.' Corner
I.,ignt Trtcy hSked wny are tnEy I:Ct.Yt i ttn': I'll s,:t`f t.'.i i and h-asf: 1r..,
moUtiC(1.UC:S:) r,e nnoStrc:xat t..}
«tMitt, ;'J i fiC r«:GW
.hat .. ar.::. each elt that We WCrr' so SUcce6l)_L1l tCat
t:r.C. 1 tnl:,;: 1:Got WG;it' tod,
4G CiG tnu 6.t:..e t:1.1n.1 f Y.
thatup Ill/L:�1C.ly LT.:iuCjnt �:lilytfllr,g Oi: ..t. .i _;U1G, C:C you rt?f:1C:l.:�er th,:
telCa)harl :all wa.,, iT,dC:i hul:Q. k•.n:1 `u iiEi)UCIy in Wal,nin:jti n W.ib
4:e.L1 .:nuy W0U1Ci C011lt' 1c:ri W,u CLUCK't %,ia t t'hc:C'l t0 ilc:TC'. lI.,at'S titL:
trouble. .;,,,Li _ ;:t e ,iayii,q th;,t .:: JJ:1 90 t'O t11aL' mar.... 0:,:1C(: tI-,Qrt_, hu
%an' z :hut ✓ou G:i hold. t.TOI: tJ Go 6Oi;let::ll:Cj tC) tjC:C liU!.. OUt
Ar,d 1 t ,lnii WO OU•Stit. GJ c: ;:C ., an G:, ;tGG U::ity zO IIlU t Aire trio ]L1C :(t•P. ui
T:ali:._rty .:uovlt i1ie 11VU OI L15. 1 kriow, 1•,Ot t at We, .:ut W:. nc;&d 'CO ta'%u
you Wltii u:,, but Lhc T.ivi' o, us nk'L- to gC; and _;cif/, :.u.�, WC'rC: .ti.'Ci:1Cj
11-4 U\'V r tfil:i cO,Ta,u::i.ty. AnG tills Is the way tnu i;uot)le
L:i•CCuiVC:.
YIaY(:r Ptl..'. Cl:jit, is there anyL;il::tj elso thlat We rQOd to discuss
at LhIS t i111t)?
Fathor Glb:.;on: ti;r. :;ayJz', hOW ao we get to the judges. Lets ask s•omobody.
:dayor Fore: The judges are not tho responsibility of this government:;!
-dy. ^'. i z_Gtc:d by them but we navu no jurisdiction over they.,. :,he
only t rtc1 that Wt can d0 as a governmental entity afltect%A, is to monitor
the', and let tt'Q public know, and go t0 tiro radio Stations and Cjo to the
ne,w., papi fs, and you know, here are thirty judge.,; af:C: :'.ort ' S how
they judret; on t' :;e thingL;. And it's c;oin.i to cost money to do that.
And 1 t a:t•: Wi: Ully`::L 1.0 Come U7 with the 11ioncy that would do preci:iely that.
And WGUI- d, i.rt t aCt, 1' d litiC: tO T1a ;t: i't in 'the l:orm of a mot;ior, ...iC: dO
it the 5 way. I :hove you, :.ir, that t:.o City Of Miami Commissio;-, lrtco27porat'e'
into t; is years budget a program throu.jh the City Attorney's 01::1r,,. for
ti,o nJnitoring 0:: tl1UE;o ClreaS that affect the C:iti'L0n5 Of I.SciiT,l, in
-Dart) -ula: trio C"Ciir,( urea, i1i .;:lc tc:C1 CatE?gorieS as to What the rulings
are of the judge,; that are mak-ing ]udcinents that affect tho cit.i.L(3riz of
m,ixr.i, and to publish them on a quar.tely or six months bards. I so ;Hove.
Xr. -'aCUs�.t: Ir, thury a Second?
6il'.,ion: , st_c'ou ci that motion.
Mv. l,ay.asa: 1)i.:;�:u1..110n'. Cali ttlu roll.
:L. i'iU;,xwr; .'.... a f".1;iUt0. First Of all, it'S a very br'OC,--' motion. I
hzivu a 'rua.1 pru;):u:r, 'r'ith... 1/011 sue, 1 Con't think l.t's really going to
aC:i O. L)11 iC. Wn.11'" thu .•:ayC.:: )r tl.-Isom : Omi115 :10n would lime t0 I-d)�1C I
would .-atnu7 stela that WC .,11.0cate Jr a ,Jpro7riatt a 11 Of 110:1C_y to establish
a program, Ott c:ou:'t ob.,i:rvation 'h'i.L:i a ]_flail tO 1..)e worked oU:. by the
CO3-,irIi.:Slo::. 1 Pr.'t ,{r.J'r; ti:1L :,1Ct';:drily Xt ttroe Or s`i-Oaths is
wher, l- shou.- _i :Jt i)Ut;l_ ::e 1, wot,ld lli:(: LO haVu :3oinlo tll:ini. lg into
that. Establish t::u run i:,c And tt:C:iJlt t: Work ou
t L1L' th L.cC11un1CbQQ...
i:it
Mayor Ferro;: Plummer, I accept thzit as an arcencun ;,t. i:.aVE: no problems
with it. I think you're absolutely... this is a very coriplicated area, it's
going to require a lot of thought. I want the input from the administration,
especially the Police Department. I'd like Janet Reno's reco-,mendations
on this, and I think we ought to discuss it before we finalize it. I
understand. We're not imposing anything here just arbitrarily.
Mr. Lacasa: Any more discussion?
Father Gibson: I have no problem with what you're saying. I understand
we don't have any control. But you know, I would think « 1 wore situated
as those men are, and women, I would really feel better if you came to me
and said to me, as a governmental entity, this is where we're hurting.
xou knovr, I don't want to, I'm not trying to control them, I just think
that we ought to talk with them.
Mayor Ferro: All right, lots incorporate this into the motion. That
Mr. Knox will secura a meeting with the Chief Administrative Judge...
Father Gibson: Beautiful.
t,ayor Ferre: ....and that the Police Department and the Law Department will
be fully documented on the problems that we have with the judicial
system, and that we will discuss those openly at a session.
Father Gibson: Yes, and seek an opportunity to just share...
Mayor Fern:: We've done that before you know, and it didn't work
very well. But lets do it again. I certainly would incorporate that
into the motion.
Mr. Lacasa: Further discussion': Please call the roll on the motion as
amended.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 6e•-626
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO APPROPRIATE A SUM OF MONEY TO ESTABLISH
A PROGRAM OF "COURT LEGISLATION OBSERVATION" WITH A
PLAN TO BE WORKED OUT BY THE CITY COMMISSION AFTER
INPUT HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION,
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND STATE ATTORNEY JANET 'RENO;
FURTHER REQUESTING 02' THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT HE SET
UP A MEETING WITH THE CHIEF ADM-1XISTRATIVE JUDGE,
TRAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT
BE FULLY DOCUMENTED ON THE PROBLEMS WHICH WE ARE
EXPERIENCING WITH THE JUDICIAL SYSTFIYI, AND THAT IT
ALL BE DISCUSSED OPENLY AT A CITY COMMISSION SESSION
TO BE SCHEDULED IN THE NEAR FUTURE
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the Following vote:
AYES: Co=issioncr J. L. Mummer, Jr.
Commi.ss.oner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Co=issioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Nonc
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DIRECT CITY CL-.:ZK W, ;OVLWl� L Vi-,C'--C%' O-Y "-z:: Dj;%7.D
1e,Ljvc,r Fc!rrc : All ra.c;ht, now on nuu1 ber
.11ing Of till UXIStin�j vacancy on the Cit,/'s 210n!-'- Board.
CjGiC,j to all 1:G27
a _,lor F,:—cc : Y15, 1 horic in -,(9xt ton
On, we .1civu -ci%c- )kay ...
GibEion; xr. xayorj on this, what :is thiJi'
1%11a7or 1-u--re : Xr. Mianacic-r, would you tc-11 the W"-,turQ WQ the on
this iter.?
,-.r. Auorlio- Or, tou i'en 0, filling _hU oil onl n cl
-X-170r, 1 '--,Oli QvE Wc! have some applicants
Mr. Au1%!11'0 Xa702: and COIT.MissiOlkerz, 70"A 11av-,; ��z -,Iln-�i 1.,oil"t
Or'L. ()-,-it.icn which is to fill thu vacanc%, with th-l-, of tlrko
A.-.c,, -,,7 y(,)u do -,ot choo"ru to do thL:,t at this point, then
,Ar.cy of
,:r,4ct t,-, C�,ty to advertise for thev,.%z thfa
tull an,i thee, it: will cjc) through the cycle of advertising,
tilC a CaLlons, utcuLura.
c ")11o: Mr. City V -, beon the gc.-n,--ral prac;L-cc in the
a ""nager, what ha.
riLst? To f-LIJ the position with the alternate member?
FoEni,)Qn% Thuru 1,..jrtj.cu1ar position that's dicvelol,ed over the
past years.
carcilo: 1-L Wc.'a0l t enl tO Me, if we have an alternate meraber that's
vihat it waj dQsignc.-ei for but lets get some more input from the other
mer,bers of t*,ne Commission.
mayor Furre: Wolvo done it both ways in the past, haven't we?
Fosmocn: YOS, wthave.
Mayor Furre: All ;:--j1V;.
F a c, r GIG:: D "i : M."y I "L;k, t*a-*,;; quct:tion. mx. mayor, it sooris tz) mu,
out, Of play ar,(" wc. ouc3.1-,t to keop this in n.-Lna. I thin}-,
ovary of this Coxamif;sion has a porson on that Zoning 6oarci he
i. - Okay. It would vr, wull, '-Q norinar-Qci, oi: ont� of the pursons.
to mc! tl,-,zAt f4ir play seyi that whoever that Commissioner ISS, that
i1, thQ rkai. i,as re!wiqnua, I don't rumc:n-c;r his name.
m Perez: Mr. Cruz. I If ii e has resigned.
Mr. Cruz- All right. It :,OEMs to me that at the
,Lpj.jL*,,Jf,Viar-Q t mcl, if C)tr-,c:r pt!ople- are nominated or up for nomination and
If OU ire that thxz Commissioner, out of
t.v bu cj--ivorl the opparntinity to no.rinatc- that cjualif-.-'Ocd
Think you're being fair. I'm sure that
t1i,:,r Plummer nominated, out of tht_ 11;3,, some ody,
.1omeloody thL, yjayor Nominated, somebody I nominated, somE!boxy
you c.omirwtuo.. I Know is my noritince. ;Thy should
.i t ri u any ny d � f o r (- n -,:. . Not because it's patronage, but Tr.y brQthern, you
}slow it.,s just fair play.
i:,t
Mr. Carollo: My question is the following. If we're going, to be, you know,
changing the rules to the game every time we have a new game, then my God,
where are we heading to. Now, if this is the way it should bi;, that each
Commissioner is going to have an appointee, regardless of wiiat, then why
did we go through the drag out sessions that we did when we wore appoirting
the new 'Zoning members. Then lets set the rule that each CorViissioner
has an appointee, and you know, what's tine use of bringing it out to a
circus out here to get three votes from a whole Commission. Then if we
want to do it this way, then form now on lets make it that each mere er
of the Commission has an appointee on the Loring Board, on the Planning
Board, in whatever boards we have and break it down that way.
Mayor Fefre: Well lets go over the Ustory of this thincl, Joe,, so you'd,
understand. Now ... because obviously you were not on the: Corrznlssion when
the four of these changes. in the old system in the City of i'.lazi, the;
way ... there were five members of the: Zoning Board. There w,As no
Planning Board. It was a Planning and Zoning Board. And each rae;,iscr of
the Commission nominated a member, and it was generally accepted t;,at
whoever had a nominee, the other four would go along with. that
was the way it used to be done. About three years ago, viaybc: four, we
c'nanged the system. And the system 'cook two years anti a couple of hundrod
thousand dollars to come up with. We had Mr. iirantley, whatever his name
is, Professor Hartley from the University of Florida, and hearings, and
hearings, and hearings, and this was nose Gordon, and we came up with i
new system. The new system was, two board. A Planning and a Zoning Board,
separate functions, separate system. Now, there we ended up with even
members of the board. Is that right? And with alternates, so is was a
new sy,;tem. At that point, the Commission changed this historical
process that was hia;torically used. And what we: did was, We, ..here was
no more I have one appointment,and what happened was that we went through
a process where nominees were accepted, and we had it out r4.ghth:re.
And whoever got three votes was the nominee. Now that's the system
that has been in effect I would say now for at least, what, four years?
Five years. So that's the system that we've used for five years.
Mr. Carollo: Yeah, but what Commissioner Gibson is saying is to really
go back to the old system.
Father Gibson: No, no, no. That's...
Mr. Carollo: Well exactly the thing you're saying in a different way.
Father Gibson: ...not what I'm saying. That is not what I am saying. It
was also understood that the person who was the alternate, that person
was used when the regular person was not there:. And it was not the
understanding that that person automatically became the member of the board.
Isn't that right. Now let me say, I know, I sound ridiculous for those
of you who may not know. My Commissioners think I sound ridiculous. The
alternate is a man that I advocated and I'm not trying to cut him out. 11m
just saying ... look, look, man, be fair. That's all I'm saying. And I would
be delighted if he's nominated and elected, beautiful. That's all I'm
saying.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what': the will of this Commission so we can mvoe
along.
Mr. Lacasa: I move;, Mr. Mz,,,ager, that we advertise the vacancy for
applications.
Mayor Ferro: There's a motion.
Father Gibson: 1 second the motion.
Mayor Forre: There's a second. Further discussion? Cali the roll.
The following motion was introduced by ConLnissioner Lacas�A, who moved
its adoption:
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716EP UPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFLR ITEM
NUIdMER "G" was introduced by Commissioner
Lacasa, and seconded by Commissioner Gibson,
and was passed and adopted by the following
vote:
AXES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
b;ayor Maurice A. Ferre
. NOES: None
ABSENT: commissioner J. L. Piurrrmer, ;;r.
iG. JicCUSGIO - CF,aLF, V. L1CLPISI1G P OCL'SS
Mayor Ferree We're now or. the final morning item which is "H", discussion
of cable T.V. Mr. Manager.
Mr. ;osmoen: Mr. jyeyor, maybe I can make this fairly short for you. We
included in your packet a number of documents relating to cable television.
I think this is probably one of the most important decisions, among many,
but one of the more important decisions the Commission is going to make
in the next six months or so. it's my recommendation that we proceed in
the following manner. we have had already a draft ordinance for cable
television. We've had that for some five or six months. We need, in
my opinion, to have that ordinance reviewed, very quickly, by a competent
professional in the field. we would also preapre, in-house, a request for
proposals. And there are literally dozens of firms across the country
who will respond to that, but we need also to have that request for a
proposal reviewed by a professional, outside of the administration. We
simply don't have that high level of expertise. I anticipate that thQ
cost for those two services would be less than forty-five hundred dollars. j
So I would simply proceed to select the person, in my judgement, could
give us the nest service. put out the IuPP, obtain responses from the
bidders, and require a large bid bond, non-refundable.
mayor Ferre: What do you mean by large?
Mr. Fosmoen: In the vicinity of five thousand dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Maybe higher.
Mr. Fosmoen: We would then, with those non-refundable bid bonds proceed
to select, through our con-atitivc selection process, a consultant Co
review the final responses from the bidders. Again, the reason that I
feel we need consultant assistance is on the technical side of those
responses. It's our impression from looking around the country at a
number of other citios that have movod in this direction, that a lot of
companies will promise you the moon and they will end up two years from
now dulive.ring you green cheusc, i%nd you will have a very serious problem
gutting out of that contract, and you will have delayed the whole system
for two years if it's not done properly, up front. It is a very, very
technical. process, and one that I think we need consultant assistance on.
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Ferre: So where y,-,u It::av(? it, i-.;, w,�,j.c, (30inc, to go fort-f V y
h-andred dollrs jjiat t1v., prela.;,tiriary thing...
Mr. Fosino'.!n: Proi;abIv le-.6 f,an ti16t lrj.:t 110 1110rc',
Mayor Furre : 1. .1WL:,rE_1 goInc; ..C, cail-,c in ana then ::ties corrzission will have
the Opportunity 'co vo'i:Q or. t;%ci wc; go out and then we're ... you'rf:
CJ,D ing tC) Y)r i".Cj i I%, j_,C,j:j 4 5 lirid i:h(! Co=,Assic)n agalno will
choos(;! CiL; to wlno is the b.ds v;tiun tnuy corno buck.
Mr.
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this tbat
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Ls's;.0n, would 1
CL, abIC.V. ',tic C.,,:y o; M1W,%Jt b':tsically two thingo. The
first-, onozhL,r (*.At.. L;en.i of thl City of Miami. I would
t)Li,;njj other lvinicipalitiu,;, including
ii.g ca-�le C.V.
.1do Cou;c_v, in t*.-!1! aircady ur,�L n
l:t.VL!n1,u'S for the City Of. Mi'Mi
tt,,,,it wtj jr(! u.,; �jkjt ftori there. To mu, nine, monz'ns,
C:.f I Would like to see is this
co minimum, and to have
can Mart getting 1:1(�Tiefits
Actually, I would like t0 SCe cclble
-,kJv. And what you are
si..., z-.o.lths of ru(i would 1 w ld like to SOO that cut
down
X.r. ',v,tve to disrtgrec ill part with }IOU.
I'm t"lat W,,. cj,::t that tip and running, and operational,
:C*cvc.!;-.uv.S, ar.d wl.-i Provido 'Cie service for our citizens. But
of a lot moru t1han Simply being able to
tal") into aox O tica, or jet a spurts program. if we miss an
to interconnect, for example, alalins
k.' tment, if we miss art Opportunity to
SVILC�ML; ..-I I �r 0 C t 1 y t, -ho Pnlic�! Du�'-)dr
CO -."_ro prO-_QCVior. purposes,
Wo 1haiv(_- 1`11cno Z;. that's the. reason that I want
to take U"ou,jn t-ullu.
Mayor r u r r u . yc":Ah, not-.<)dy ii .. .
Mr. 4., -a . Nobcdy -a; oues%ioning that.
t.layov *.,--%",,rro: x.r. -nobody is ar(iuinq with that.
V.f. NQ.5aJV J'; :1174111inq with that.
t4r. ; 1al v.u1iinti the Commission is that we're going
t(.) ijr,il i'p wl . I I i) Licor,tily L-jjou",LjrjdL; ,.)f y,,tgos. You end up with a
r o c-n- "iv(_ loot. ivi,qn, and trying to work your way
thu Lc,:41111C,la a6ij�.-ct:i o:* Chet. I don't want to mislead you. It's
tt.- t-t:iku. CliAL alllou;-,t of r-iino s:txtply to get through the proposals,
1 OGtlSs what: youl-rc, than, mr, manager, is in your
you Dual ti-tat the remarks are a lot of
hU 110'S.
Mlr. 11-,(.):zimaun : I 'iii sL;I'olit3r, '_ Calif t hoar you.
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Mr. Carollo: I'll repeat myself and let me get a little closer to the
Mike. In your humble opinion, you feel the Vice -Mayor's remarks and
the opinion of maybe other members of the Commission here is a lot of
ho ho ho, since we're talking about Christmas, implementing this. I think
you understand. To get a little more precise, what I don't understand,
and I don't think any of us are experts on this, but what I don't understand
is why cities around tha county here, wi,y Metropolitan government itself
haven't take six, nine months, a year, a year and a half to accomplish
this.
Mr. Fosmoen: Commissioner, I didn't say nine months. I said six
months apd I'm trying to give you a realistic opinion of how long it's
4oing to take before you are in a position to award a bid.
Mr. Carollo: See, but what I'm trying to comprehend is why other people
were able to do it in shorter time and we have not been able to accomplish
this.
Mr. Fosmoen: First of all, this is really I think the first time we've
had a chance to sit down and lay out a scenerio for you which will cut
the time frame down to six months. You know, we have been talking about
an ordinance, but it simply hasn't been before you. I've laid out for you
a time track that I think is feasible, and in that process we can get
the best system in place for the citizens of Miami. You know, we're talking
about a two months difference, Commissioner. And I don't want to mislead
you by saying that it's going to be done by Christmas.
Mr. Carollo: The other question that I have, maybe J. L. could answer this
better since his brother is in the State Legislature, how far is legislatic:i
at, at this point, of taking the power away from the cities in us being
able to make the decision: instead of them making it for us.
Mr. Plummer. I don't answer for my brother, I answer for myself. And that
is, that the legislature has just returned the power to the cities.
Mr. Carollo: They have returned the power?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: I think the point is this. I think this Commission is
interested in moving along on this, and I would hope that we could do it
within the three and a half months, or four months that Lacasa is
talking about. Obviously, if we have delays along the way, that's something
that we'll have to deal with but I don't think that there should be
any delays.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me make...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Merrill, I understand your position. But: it isn't what
you think, it's what this Commission thinks, and this Commission thinks
it's going to be done in the next four months.
Mr. Merrill: Mr. Mayor, if I just may say this, that the history across
thy: country in urban cities, they have not been able to do it that
easily. It's a technical process...
Mayor Perre: Fine, you've given us good warning.
Mr. Lacasa: Lets say that we have an advantage over them. This is a
f.ar.ily new system in every municipality. What we could do is to be
exploring what others have done, that is the precedent that we have.
Light here in this area we have several precedents from which we could
learr, and expedite the process on account of that. We are not creating
anything new, we are adding to already existing situations very similar
to this.
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Mayor Cerre: See, this is, wlz"" ell dLu vGU came
here and talked about this in February, re:mci,bur?
Mr. Merrill: I attempted to start it in Feur"da:Y.
Mayor Terre: That's correct. Sue? And we�ru now ..ntc so '
you had your six mont-lis and we could have ... yeah, bE-cuu'r;u the will o
this Commissions, if you recall, ynd 1 voted against the :eajority.
Remember, I was one of the guys that voted for the hiring of this and all
of that. But the will of this Com::lission was, we're golnc; to do it
in-house. And the fact is, that six months have gone by and we haven't
done it in-house.
Mr. Plummer: i,et me ;:emird you coiTa,ent wa:; r,.adc: 'c,, then :tanager,
well if all you want is an ordi,,ancu, wu car, draw it. over night. And
over night is an Alaskan night of six months.
Mr. Merrill: The ordinance is before you. It was delivered to you in
July.
Mayor Ferro: Mr. Merrill, 1 think you understand the sense of this
Commission.
Mr. plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me interject one thing which I think maybu, just
maybe, and I spoke of this with Mr, idurriil. And by the way, %lr. Fo,�.moon,
I'd like to deal with ,Mr. Mcrri.l on this issue than you bccauuo he said
he thought he could get it done for a thousand dollars than
forty-five hundred.
Mr. Fosmoen: I said no more: than ford -five.
Mr. Plummer: h:r. Mayor, I think if one thing have understood from
cable t.v., that there i:: nothing in the market place today thar, is
changing and increasing and expanding more than the capabilities of
cable: t.v. And let me say to you, I admire Mr.Merrill because: he is
trying to do the very bust he can for this City. Vnere the problem
Mr. Merrill and I have is sometimes 1 thhink it's between realistic of
what they hope and what we can put our hinds on. In that vein, Yr. Mayor,
I urge this Commission to hopefully write a contract which is a renegotiable
with the franchisee. That when we write the contract, that it is written
in the terms of what is existing today, and that any differentiating,
expansion of that, would be terms for renegotiar.ing before this Commission.
And I think that maybe will alleviate the fears that, okay, tomorrow they
double or they do this, and the City is not going to benefit by it. They
can't do it unless they come back here, and I hope that will be written
into the contract,
Mr. Fosmoen: As important az that, Commissioner, iL; to require the
licensee to provide statQ of the art facilities because the field is
changing so rapidly, that if we give a licr•nse today and we don'z
require them to keep up with the state of the art, we'll lose a ntvnber
of opportunities over the term of the license.
b*I. plummer: Well let me tell you where I learned my lesson, Dick, very
quickly, and it wars the Mayor who brought this out. Do you remember when
we were negotiating the telephone franchise? You know, I suddenly realized
that franchise basically wa; a franchise for them putting poles on our
property. That the sta•_u of the art was that in just a very few short
years, they might not bo using poles and we'd be sitting here with a
franchise that's worth nothing. And it was the Mayor who brought that
out. Okay, you change your ballgame, you're still going to give us the
revenue. We could have been in serious problems if it had not been...
Mayor Ferro: I told you so.
Mr. Plummer: Cod forbid.
Mr. Carollo: I think that. thy: will of this Commission is pretty clear.
You know, Mr. Merrill, I respect your opinion, sir, but you know, like
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Mr. Carollo (continued): I've told you every you've come to me,
I personally, and I think the majority of this CoTziSsion has expressed
this, want to see this go out as soon as possible, not wait another
six months, or another ten or Who ;;no4rs how much longer. And sir, and I
respect your opinion, I resl?uct the: t:,a„e you've ta::cn into this, if a£t.er
this Lomnission has directed you in the direction wu want to go, and you
still insist on not following this route, then you know, that leaves us
very little alternative.
Mr. Merrill: What I'm trying to do is to bring to you the best possible
system for the City of Miami and this Commission. Trying to bring you...
Mayor Fetre: Clark, don't I think...
Mr. Merrill: I'm doing the best that I can for you.
Mayor. Ferre: Yes, I know. But I think what the Conmission is telling
you is that we set the policy and not you.
Mr. Carollo: In other words, what I'm trying to say, sir, is that if you
don't like any decision that this Commission takes, the alternative
that you have is to step down, move into the City of Miami and run for
office.
Mr. Merrill: I'm not going to do that.
Mayor Fore: All right, now is there further discussion at this timo.
Do you need any action? Okay. All right, this Conunission was supposed
to adjourn at noon. It is now quarter to two, we haven't adjourned yet.
We're going to take a half hour off so we'll be back hopefully in
half an hour.
WHEREUPON the City Commission recessed at
1:45 P.X1. and reconvened at 2:30 P.,M., with
the following members of the Commission
found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -,Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo NOTE: Commissioner Carollo
Entereci Meeting at
Approximately 3:10 P.M.
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Plaza Project, Ci dovulop-ment: of regl.onai iii-i-p.icr. ',.ocatud On Brickell Avenue.
AlrighL, "Ytr. lllani:gev.
M 'I-, DICk FOSMOL-11: "Ir. RL'I'd Will hive YOU bLt6'.ground oil this
Mr. Jim Reia: I tnini-, iz would bu usctful, it you put the grapinics up already
wizb respect to -Joi 6a6ic:;IIlY, Mr- ',Xvlbers cii the Cammio-
I what we're culking a L O-,ut 11; a,zrion on the
i65uance "Z ordezfor cho Na�'inu'-* 1roject, which i:.; a devi:lop-
Ynent of -LMV:)aCr. 'fou project is located on brick2ll Ave-,jue, I-,L-twuen
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a .:hv4 e ux,;u.:,6ivQ thl:0,! hundred thou.sonk' squar,: project with
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rlvc� hundred ninL
a tn-'rL,dL-a 6coi:-y tower. z'nroc hundred and
tifty coaczruc:io-a jc)1)6, oni) thCjI,.;;x"tCi Oj%i! IIUIII�VIel and fj%le (,711, 'L Ile
ei�PL,ctc,c to Wori: i:nvvo, ilixludini; a,,i ujati-x.; h
undrea and new Jobs.
Yn thC: dcvuIojn.-,L:nt orcc-v, w- ic.-I 5 la' L;z�' on pL4(:kk;:*,: N "Y t: aavt:: tri"AliC CO
deal w:.Lh c'."Irc-e pro'blom.-,, ir, a duvelopmonc o-odur rus-poilse. cc, recor"mandacion
02 tlhe Soutri Florida Reg-.onal 111::inn_,ng Number one tloer,% ure certain
I tri,ffic and access and circulation probl�.:voi I:Iiac arc! result of thin. Lievelopl:,ant
but primarily result Of the �.;vowtlll a-n—an Brickt,11 (ivenuo, ove.r lchc!
lard: Goveral yoart: and iv. the developcieric Order thC:re, are seventeen. seperate
t.ctio,ns th;.tz are ruquired...rtzcut:.sred of the City and of tlic a-)pljc,;jnr that
W 1 .11 '11 av L'. itlr),'A C c thruo ii-,cur.3vction t h a c would normally havv
co the Jpur:
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wou!J rv(illy 'break coon l L11l Ge ;ccp,s wurQ.,ilr rake,.j ,ijid W'nOL*&
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tl-Lci I - 9% it �11--ow il�' tits: I)i?0 linU- 'T:,E
thin,-11,, chat
Lhu d0veloNIL-11t (;rQc-" cots is wxceud to rtqjuust of the ? -
cou".1cil
Chat WU ccAk.o anocher JLk.)OjC 7C. CIle t"affic ... cirv, r,-If is c plan�,.; i,,: the
r.r , ('.kL-il arua. '3asicallY zhe suggestions of the dc!vc!101)-,%!nt 0-rdcl-: solved tt-4e
:)iooleak; ivi ]�)6!. C,6. :or
brickc-11, in 'Chu fIILI- VU and
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iaanagemunr: plan, for .':'_"_Gilt develOPIT.dnt ci-,n bQ
adequately Eiuppo-.,Le6 'Uy%nd public it --s OUr
entenv r&cher than .; ff ;!ff
o-"c On ou.: 01411, to 'Lia,:k On
the Ufforcs the C0141ZY is CI)rzi,.,IJvIY fundi-,IF, tht.. '::Cute: for " downtown "Iccess
and mobility study. So we hope to take the data from that study and
with our own analysis and conclusions come back to you with recommenda-
tions that will insure srlooth traffic management and growth management
in the Brickell area in thu future.
Commissiioner Plummer: Mr. Reid, who is requesting that?
Mr. Reid: It is being:; requested by the South Florida Regional Planning
Council. In other words, they have evaluated the phenomenal growth on
Brickell, and the tact that in the near term, there are certain problems
we've been unable to solve...
Commissioner Plummer: But their speaking to this project, in particular?
Mr. Reid: i'heir, speaking to the City in trams of futuru projects. It is...
Commissioner P1urmer: Not just to this particular...
Mr. Reid: Not just to this particular project. in fact...
Commissioner Plummer: They saw fit to hang it on this project?
Mr. Reid: That is correct sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Thank you.
Mr. Reid: They saw fit to hang it on this project. The third element
is a ...relates to a bay walk; that is being proposed as part of this
project and if ultimately the city was able to gain access across the
church property, that abuts on the bay, could provide a continuous bay
walk from the Brickell Avenue bridge to the Claupht•on Island bridce and
in the front of this property, we are requiring in the development order
that an average width of bay walk of twenty zeet be dedicated, that it
be constructed by the applicant, maintained by applicant and available to
the public so that ... to summarize the main points of the development
order, there are seventeen recommendations that deal with the problem
of traffic and access, there is a recommendation that the city, itself
undertake the growth management plan and there's recommendations relat-
ing to the bay walk and the environmental of quality of the project,
detail landscaping plan and so forth. This particular project is before
you todn,,, in terms of its regional impact. You will have a second look
at this project on September twenty fifth in terms of certain zoning and
waterfront charter amendment questions. Excuse me.
Mayor Ferre: Repeat that again. You mean, we're only dealing with cer-
tain aspects.
Mr. Reid: You're only, your a... the recommendation today deals with the
development of regional impact question and how the commission responds
to that, there will be a second meeting on this same project before the
commission on September twenty fifth, agenda item number seven, at which
two question will be on the table, one is a parking variance with respect
to a... excuse me, that is already approved by the Zoning Board. One
item is on the agenda, the conformity with water front amendment and...
:Mayor :"erre: So in other words the waterfront setback is not before us
at this point.
Mr. Reid That's correct Mr. Mayor.
Mayor. Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Raid: That is dealt with by a seperate City Commission action,
agenda itom number seven on the twenty fifth.
Commissioner Plummer: What was the variance on parking?
Mr. Reid: The a variance on parking AM owed in terms of the
specific numbers, I do not have the numbers in front of me.
Commissioner Plummer: What was the variance? S Ef ; 5
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Mr. Reid: it was a variance that tv Yi i.uUi L' of part -,,,A; Spaces,
that delt with both the commercial OZr CC (lc:VU10,)Or...Lht: Office
development and the anci.11iary co-,=,e'rzia! l'iaC'ilit 5. Aoductions...
Commissioner Plurraaer: Was it a waiver of riuuber?
Mr. Fosmoe:n: Reductions.
Mr. Reid; Reductions and numbers.
Commissioner Plummer: How much?
Kr. Reid: Commissioner Plurunur, I'd havo to look that up, and bet back -
to you, it was rather insignificant.
COAlrni88iOl1i;'C P1Ur4UeY: Well it's 5'1,,�Ci:ii'yCaT1C to L`li:, in 61ilC pirtiCUltir
area, very significant and as you're aware, I might want to request that
that be 'brought up for commission action, which we have the right to do.
Mr. Rc`id: Certainly, 1' would be g1a3 to get bac.c before the conclusion
othe D.R.I. hearing and give you the auecific n11h(rs.
Commissioner Out you can't cio it zh,,'c w;q, Jig, u.:Ci'tU: C it
1 rOquUF' t!C formally as ii COu1L'iiS ii�iii%L , it coini;:; ui) as it SCht!UUlUd iCUu
and 1 don't know flow you can Sciledull: it oche-,- 'iscl.
Mr. Reid: Cvell...
Mayor F'errc: Sony don't you do that on the record right now?
NSr. 'Read: 1~ I can clarify that, a variancr_ has beer, approved by t'rc
Zoning Board.
Co: mic,5ioner 171(.IliY:li'.r: But, it you will r::call, when those? rules W,.!2%!
written this commission has the right to bring up matter, before this
commission, for reconsideration.
Mr. Rein: Tt's a, tile: info.;.3cion has 'beer, provided to Mu �(;ld I appreciate
that t.le requirUd •,iarki.ng s?acdu were: 1620, this parking spaces to ba provided
were. 1587, so you .lad a disminution of 33 parking spaces, which represents
about 2% of the total parking provide;. —
Mayor Terre: Xr. Reid, 1 don't think you've heard Commissioner Plummer.
L thiniC, what" Com-nissioner Plum�,.1er was saying, is, it's not a question...
he doesn't grant to know that Oio- : ti,as dirainution of Thirty three parking
spaces, C.e':; saying; that ,a has as ''. � wx: i F, ,ioner thin r11;ht to deUland
that, that itorr, be 13roui7. rit be:fore tlni co;xAssion and he's about to ex-
ercise that right, 1 think, if he's r.ot tnua lets move along.
Commissionor P.lul%mer; Well, i'.', zb-d form of a motion, is will ask that it
be brought up as a companion to the variance relating to t'fe water
set back.
Mayor F'er•re: Alright we have a-ciOt'ion, Y don't think you need a Motion,
T think l:he Chartur -,.:lyo, 'Chat any rae?tr:zer ol: the CGt lml`35io11, or must It
be th(! Corziissio-n, ::C, C.it;Artorn(�y would you clarify this? Has the
Charter changed? Was that in the charter?
Cowunissione'r Plunater: Yes, it was in the proposed chanbas.
Mayor F'erre: Do you have the rule in front of you?
Mr. Reid: �`o 1 do not Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Knox; Mr. Mayor.
Commissionor 'PILiw;er: k'izit a secogd
'Mr. Knox, We're stet ;you are answer,
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Mayor Ferret Well I'll tell you, just to siit, in the mean
time, just to make sure it's double, double safe:, you will probably
make some motion that this itent be brought- up before, tite Commission.
Is there a second? Seconded by Gibson, further discussion call
the roll.
Mr. Fosmoen: ',Xr. Mayor, the only concern that I have is that we may
throw all of the public notic procedures out of sink with the hearing
that is scheduled for the twenty fifth, so if I may 1 like: to take a
minute and review what the rules are and get you an answer.
Mayor Verre: Ok. will you hold back your motion?
Commissioner Mummer: Sure
Mayor Ferre: In the meantime then lets proceed with the presentation
Mr. Reid: That concludes our part of the presentation, Mr. Mayor. The
applicant is here elaborate and answer questions.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, counselor.
Mr. Robert H. Traurig: Thank you Mlr. Mayor, for the record my name is
Robert H. Traurig, I am an attorney at law and I very proudly repre—
sent Mr. Raymond D. Nasher and the Raymond D. 'Nasher Company who are
the proponents of this application. Before I talk about the particular
application, I think it's important, for me to enlighten the commission
with regard to the parking situation, it's perfectly alright with us
that you have this heard by the commission as a companion to the other
matter, but I would like you to have the benefit of the factual back—
ground at this time. although I am not going to plead my case on it.
As has been indicated to you, by Mr. Reid, we need, not 1620, but
1615 parking spaces, and we've provided 1587, so under that, we would be short
28 parking spaces, however, that's really an illusion, because........
Commissioner Plumper: Mr. Traurig, Father says the only way, the only
light of the future Is the light of the past.
Commissioner Gibson: There's no light to guide my future but the light
of the past.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't ever trespass on Father's Bible. I am
mainly addressing Mr. Traurig, and I :ell you where I'm coming from so
you're know. There was another proposal by Nasher on the other side of
the street, correct, which was withdrawn.
Mr. Traurig: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Alright sir. That history on the other side of
the street in relation to parking, upset me and upset this commission
if you will recall. Now, I want to make sure, that, that history is
not repeated here and that's where I am coming from.
Mr. Traurig: I th.ln4 you're entitled to have the full story and we're
happy to address that issue, when the other matters comes up.
Commissioner Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Traurig: With regard to the matter which is before you today,
I think it's been made clear, by the remarks of Mr. Reid, that the only
matter to be considered, is whether or not you should issue a develop—
ment order as recommended by the South Florida Regional Planning Council
and as recommended by your Planning Department and is recommended by
your Planning Advisory Board related to this project, which is on, the
northeast corner of Brickell Avenue ar4d southeast eighth street. You
remember that this building, which is the Flagship center building has
been constructed and we're now talking about the balance of that site.
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the site is large- 0.,IOU8*11 to ac.cora3da-,-.,.; ;_n C,,*__.'1'C.111_ 1`1 ot7l.lcturel
which is proposed Or this of 11:hu L -ni, struc—
ture on the easterly ?Orvio-a o,1:111j, 'Ci) 00th of t1lese
the plan is to
PV V, I -,I%ts oi
buildings and actui.,lly one of Ct . L� QIL - 1�'.eid and
create ,be river walk- Way, Lha,- i1Cs '�.UfOTLe, to by
which is a part of the. . . one of the in L,hc: recor-aLnie"'Itions
of the RjL,.giO,,ja:j pja-,j-rjjji& , w*i-,ich woulti be,in t',Ie walls Way from
the trail all the way to the Co-,lvention Ce.-ater, so tl-.ac along; the bay
there will be, this bay walk. T !iLe to just chow it to you, because
it's not an issue here, it will be considered 3.1 you ot: your ineetin,,,;
in two weeks, but basically it woule, be 0-,i this ;.Z:,StOVIy Side aln-c: iz
will be a walk way to acColnodatL, -CQZ Only tra.L.fic, but
also to se -.v,-. 1z; a --e et ing lace, wl%C-z*e pt.!Oplu WA4. 11. ^-) L: ab ic t 0 u t i'll -.,z, U
the vestay.r_-,-,- facilitiuG, etc., which will 1ju erexced fo.7 the aritire
Brickel). Avenue area. it will be a public area, We have :,,,rLied ,-.o
insert a condition in the replat of this property, that this be a
Oc&it..,tted walk way and there will bc! a number of pub*lic amenities
placed within it, for the benefit 0` the gc!rkeval of the City of
I L - 4. 1.
Miami and raore -part icularily thaz of tht� tha� works in
t , - . u I.
the Brickell Avonucarea, W,-107,-t: -,WO 17(,W faCilitit:'> arc
presently availabie. At any rcite, we have i i.l.ed all, a77i)liCcitloll, f
devclo?mont approval, wi':'rL the SOUt',-, Vlorida
the 1j1c.z, . '-at tlnia, bt-,`c"n& 17er L l wide: t"10 thr4c
thousand square "root threshOld, but wi'i
build-.Ln,c;, Which has bc?ei, prc!viously burr, built, t"llit c;xcuL:&,. t'nc.-
three 'rtu-ndred thousand rest, j-,:; 'oo 1'- 0 �,
reviL,-weci very th rc) u,iily
An6 as indicated 'CO you, L:.,3 rL;u n -rec. DTXIkG7'4'A ed L,lj i I I-, -i;r.j UL I%/ th Alt CO U,-, C
. : tm,�' ' �1'
to ti)is commission, for approval ns 'rat.5 your Planri-ng Depar, , i(,
Planii-ing Advisory Bourd. ild like to thank on behalf of the Nadler
Company, a nu-mber Of people, on your sra-ff who have wor"KeL4 So C1i1igc!-,Lt-
ly, to mc!ot with us, to help us aedros:, to help clarify the:
6 ev e I o p r. e n t c, r o i. r , t;! t c a t 1. c k, I zttilt/ r e Pr e s e n ta t i v C, t 'n Q.
:1106t -,'�c c f 'c " 'Y
YatiaCer' s Off ic,: Gi tile D, a
art,-. I A , t>
of the 7ileY Ilia'lc bei:V,
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very helpful to us, ere were: - 11urfDc!r Of LI -c,S , wh ir� , I -ad to 'Oil
rcsolvel.-', ben7een the City and the 'Regional :'lanai:,;; Council.
i1j,porra-cit to ilOtC that tl%c.. c4L, velop,2-c- zjc; -eun al,-.a:jnao1e to al.']. thc!
condition:,, -Whichi oit',-,er the City a-,: Chu Rc;;ional Council
have Saw to V-11 E! n the: C � -, co. I jj1
Co,.jnc-*", xtposud
number of iior. 6, We said , We we , 11 Comply W-i"'a ail t'l-1064 cond-itionli
as tile' -:elate to uS, tlii.! CiZy cllan�,-c: of thE
We Slid, hxppy to abi&a by th.:13' t;o::::, whiel-. th,:: City imposes.
We had our traff44C ,riei:;L W!;..,:i*, th._. City we 'have -:act
WiV,11 cllc! c:.ty We 1,ave reacl-.eal acccr:,icjdazionc, !I -LC 0,aVe :Alblllitted
some rovisL.d both to the C-1 ty a:,ci '60 thu onl--�� I ?I
Council an"` t"rie clievulopmclnt order, ti:.iC'_' in front cif now re'pre-
3enz tho which the De-)..::vinenc has and we
arc pe-:.foczly satisfiod %aith. Llwt-, 1.,,,--1.*,,,;1.,..-,kc --'c well'. 1 would like to
a d1eliver to you a copy 0.4- rria '10.vt;1cr?n1unu 0-:dor, tht; only
chani;us being those, which W-:rE' Uri G: , r,it"rik-C thC,.a us
fic we a -,,reed to
pay less th,-.n all. of the cost, of �, ,,-.w cv; I I If _� sic,
pay the entire co5t. Wi;. have al—) a:;rec!;' to provi.io ."Cr some i'alprove-
mants or our pro-rata porrio.-L, of c ::Ost ovec.iunt.s on oitho
the east sidt! or tho wust 6idG of `,; i c 1 1--,. Avc:nue a_7 'finall'; �eterrained
by government and the govern'ZE;",tal having tho Jurisdiction over
the traffic and Brickell Avenue, so Chat we have bani perfectly happy
-is. -,kjr. J,�rry
-.-.o abidb ,� by ail. rl-Ac3c condicio., _r 1ic fi-re.1 Of
and *Na:;hman, wl-.Lch iCi o1.r traffiQ consultant, horC'. to
s2eciftc queorionL; abou-, rhz:se trat"LLe improvements, if those, 1.uestions
arc: posQd to us, we zhirk, that a lengthy presentation is
ions, to you, We krilow
Ss a y, in view 0*
however, that thury arc, so"%o- citizei16 and our neighbovs ,,,,ho x�%� Inc: re
who want to -%r.dr,;ss these -L�zuus anta we want the opporcullity to C!X-
piain the various, the bcelt'l-grou-nd of all theme variouts conditions, So
Wc: ur1:t-_' YOU CL) us th.it o?,portuni-i:y az a later but at Lhc;
present time we won't give you any other presentation, ii-i view of zhaz
staff reco=.ien%L,tion. 'i'tianlit you.
Xa y o r TPe r 'r e A 1 r -L c: o w t1 'a a v U ros nu .''i. 1,'IS11
to 'De A*:Q the- r4L ar"y t Wc� LZ 1
YOU17 rino.i,l of yo-,; W1,13 W-I:;'n to on
L.1,: C V . 1; o you wa-'%t tJ *L!klC 61 r? YC)1l CIO S Z:"V_,%tt! S
db 1JUQ
I."
I will not... I see, ok. There are three speakers, go tuluad and
then...
Carl, Hoffman: Mayor. Terre, commissioners, my name is Carl Huffman
I am an attorney with offices at 101 East Flagler Street, the firm of
Bradford Williams, we represent Hotel Enter -Continental Miami a joint
venture and with us here today, is Mr. Andrew Kermsey the general
manager of the hotel, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Don Morris of his staff, from
the hotel. We have had the opportunity to review the renderings that
you see before you there, on the easel in ,Sr. Nasher'o offices at
the Flagship building and we are as you know, very ... vitally interested
in this area, because the hotel has been on the north side of Bayshore
Drive for quite some number of years, it's a very important hotel,
serving housing; for the Brickell area, up to the business
people who fill up those office buildings and who will be coming there
on business, so we think that the relationship of that hotel and the
functioning of that hotel is critical, it's part of the overall
development of that Brickell area, and therefore, when we received
notice of the application, that's before this commission today, we
aatural.ly want to take a look at it, and we went doHm to their offices
a week ago, having received that short notice and we will state for
this commission, that we had an architect with us, and we believe that
the overall development as it races the bay is attractive and we'll
enhance the area. It is our purpose of being here today, however,
because the development order, that has just been prosc:nted to you,
by Mr, Traurig, has some specificc recom-m.enda t ions regarding traffic,
in the Brickell area in particular in the South Bayshore Drive area
and on southeast vie;Iht street. Now, I have reviewed the development
order, that the South Florida Planning.; Council had before, the one that
you've just received and my pages may different than the one you have
but, I will address generally the concepts of what's concerning us,
and the traffic in that area, as it impacts the hotel. If you gentle-
men can hear me, what I want to point out is, that the exit, the main
entrance of the hotel is here. I think most of you have been to the
hotel at some time or another, know that the main entrance here, so
you have to have ingress or degress onto South Bayshore Drive. Right
now, it's a two lane street, in addition, at this end of the property
there is a service exit and the main entrance where the ballet takes
the cars and in store it. (PORTION INAUDIBLE NOT USING MICROPHONE)
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how, 1 have...being handed
out to you now are some recommendations we have. We have two specific
modifications, of the development order, that has just been presented
to you, that we believe will help the traffic situation, with the hotel,
and I might add, it has been our understanding that the impact on the
land orders, on Bayshore Drive is generally not been considered direct-
ly by the developer or even we have talked with the respective county
planning; agency involved and we feel, that there should be some input
from the owner, of the hotel, at this time because obviously it affects
us very critically, so I would go, if you gentlemen —Have you given
them the copy? Ok. If you will look at the first one I have, on page
two, I think of this revised order, at the top of page two and I...
This is the one you just received, It say recommend to Dade County
Department of Traffic and Transportation, that signalize trafffic
control:: be installed .c the intersection of southeast eighth street
and southeast Bayshore Drive, by the Dade County Department of Trans-
portation when warranted. Now, we want....,.
Commissioner Plummer; What page is that?
Mr. Traurig: That's at the top of page two of the most recent one:
Mr. Plummer.
Commissinner Plummer; Oil.
Mr. Traurig: Now, disregard the pager numbers on the sheet you've
got, because I was working; from, the draft, before last night, 1 only
t::n minutes ago got the new draft, so you'll excuse that.
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Commissioner Pluramor: AlriSht.
Mr. Traurig: " 6,; ac,
shall include an adv,-.-.,cu
the raid interseez1oz, Va gain, Lo we i--vo.
our traffic conslit-inc here NO,
sans, in ji.irt - io-:
rion on the next page, 1 b"lieve Q on ?a> Ova. it'. K An Addle
of the it :L'- Lu1`1-'C,
boutheas; bzys:,OrL-
zhe o'
the keen is rho wame, a& on rhu uarly wAaq 0', 7ui: A, pao! nuMars
have can shl,.Ifcot: o-a zhi,, ',;,:,w,
ink; there, for your consideration 1.L3 t*i-,.-,.-:. th,-
LnC! owner c)Z the hoti.l i;hi,,L! in cooparation 1541 Cho county,
in othLil: vords, WE! -ZLC.! 1:11"I'. du "",av, (2everc *iz.6 Cl .r
matter, LIS well "IL; Mr. , nd we chat it WC)".1C. DQ- )rol)c,.,
to get the thinkAq; of the hotel, becouse, c,,j) thc�
of ::he NzA you have t1iaz
1:--Cnt of hotel, We r*ni-nk iz'o
stancs because ir; no ozher co3nu: ir'cln,� to
my knowl"Qu, aK K you or
B VT' %rrujq,Awd
pLck ci.rwr, -chc:rc� Cc-11 vou
know yJl- C:,-a U.: Call
inco cnu o,,"i'ier of ):n,.; in znl-,
Planning Scudy, rh": Mv, Kid 0'.-,
L'nirzy ol%e.-
Cric
project oize, be n:i•.rrlpwn for Q"r 2onws zwo un; trafLm,
C-1;n bc --,f o,%c.,,idc of o,:.
.:Ina' ac, oil ")
aC,out "hic., t"le of
e i �,h z I -i n n 6 ::5 a Ny sla o r Now, G.iV1.OLi5 :In of ao.E we
c,:)ncerned abou: une olin�-aa:ion o. cna L;:.do parMmg, we iauld jjkL,
to see, that thu parking, 07 in fact 711,. ab
Q, a.,
the east side, in front of the bate!, fo-,* the bone;*.it cf tr.C, --
. Z: , 0
o-z' the hot�ul and tt-,e cthQr,,. a-m -,oin,C, co or,
Mr. Joe Rica, I ballave nWs no intronucrion to most 0', yoii
he's done for the: cio,, of 'Xiami "nd the County c w I a ou
you exjain to the Commission. the substantial reUsoas 1roz, a technical
E,oint, for rhu5e
Co-nmis�loner PIL-amier: Sir may 1 crn . An way r, i t', j:-K , 0
-a?1.11; rhe rlquesr 0 t*ne wron�, party. Sir wo not :t.-n
S-; ess
of Counzy Traffic Ownsna:wAn, abmt Qw cndfic
light or tho We can wLs ": ",
—o final
'C""ose ruqwsr, wcuA havc to ,�c) t�-o Mu'ro'Polij:an Da,a Cou-:,t-�
a TrafflL arts, Trn.,;p-ort,-,tion.
Mr. TramAj: We have taken it uy wiL:r, ?IuaL�cr 2-aj
Mr. Rice would be hajqq " co address :4, ncyr corib.
Mr. is fUcn: like 1: s?uak from hQry n.aniv is
R :17 -1 e
-ce, I'm a Gonriuic,�ni: -c.'rigineer wis Dff:�cc.� az 1600 co-,-aj
principle Concern of toil Cliant, in this CuSt i.S m earlier
:1--- accc,s- c.) rhu ion& and ?reSVrva!:1011 .-,f i-.'hac
want to A bure a: U chat the hot& c0nccr11.-1 XcU e,CogivizL-.-6 and o-ne way
this to rhu inpuL, i3OLii and:, Of
ICAP&A Plan 20V !An UCQi4"LiOn On DaYSNOZI Drin, an4 Zoe Igo.,
j)lan or and This colorec sketch zIjusC-cj-jtos
Pr"'Ously sz"d, j. unviliOn, EhI'rv?"::l',1�c--: Cn tQ.
wesc id,.! A Bay6haru cne retention oj CA C1-1*- oc, rho e2t6t: s-.L;�4e
ft,.: uJO Oi: four f,,)Or- trafri,' on hayshare nd
critical V.0vu-'aO1t: tii1T. 1:11L,
Chi:, in ca 1-,�• j.,-.j7.Vra.qt of
r ime � , 11 i.I:jswcr X"", '-0 1'— ;io I x I aV L!
Mayor Yurrc Q;
Mr. Rice: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Rice: The reason behind the presignal, it should be obvious be-
cause, you could sec the distance o� the entrance of the hotel, just
behind the proposed signal, the presignal would allow traffic to be
stopped for a few seconds, on Bayshore, to allow the traffic to get
out of the hotel and get into the lane, so they could make the turn,
now that's really the basic reason.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Eoffman: Basically that's our presentation, we have reduced it to
specific language and we've presented :;r. Traurig a copy of it, it
hardly changes, what he has already worked out, with the County we
have visited the South :lorida Planning Council, we have discussed it
with people at the County Department of Transportation and really all
we're seeking this afternoon is either that he will consenc to it or
that the Commission in its wisdoi,l would see lit to reco=und that to
the appropriate agencies as part of this development order.
Mayor Ferre: A:l.righc Mr. Traurig, do you want to react or, behalf of
vour client?
Mr. Traurig: I think it's possibly fair, I think that what is proposed
however, could be slightly different and I like: to ask that you
consider i.t. First, to put this into perpective, this comes to you,
with certain conditions imposed in the development order of Regional
Planning Council and where the City staff has worked with the Depart-
iment of Traffic and Transportation of the County, in order to modify
some of those conditions. We said, as our preface, that we have
amenable to all of the suggestions, whether they're made by thV City
or by the Regional Planning Council or by the County Department of
Trafftc and Transportation and we're equally amenable to these changes.
FiOWCver, because this first recommendation made by Mr. Hoffman pro-
vides for the additional presignal and because we don't know whether
or not that would be evaluated as being necessary by the county, I
would like to suggest that the City in its development order, ask that
the county consider whether or not it is warranted and if it is warranted
it would seem reasonable that the party requesting it for its conven-
ience ou,.,iit to bear the cost of it, and we bear the cost of the traffic signal,
traffic light T think, if it's for the convenience of the taxis, etc.,
perhaps it ought to be borne by our neighbor, we ask you to consider
that. With regard to the striping; and the cooperation with that, I
think that's perfectly clear, we think though, that it is essential
since the... it's suggested that our CO not be granted until the
striping has been completed, that we receive Lheir full cooperation,
so I think that any development o•rae:r ought to provide that the hotel
Inter -Continental of Miami shall fully cooperate in arriving at the
stripping plan, except for those very minor suggestions, wu find the
:suggestions by Mr. Hoffman, to be vary fair, it is the best interest
to the public and to the City of Miami.
Mr. Hoffman: T might just respond Mr. Mayor, by saying, that we would
be in concordance: that we would work this out with the appropriate
county, wily a,r,encies, w_,wery only notified of this about a week ago.
and to Shaw our cooperation, we went right over to Mr. Masher's office
with Mr. Taurig on about 1,8 hours notice from Friday
afternoon to monday morning, and that was when we first saw the render-
ings and we'vo only engaged Mr. Rice this week, so we've had to crank
up very very quickly, he culled a very short notice. W. ar, interested in being
cooperative on it, and we think it can be worked out. I might just add
though, th;lt oil the cost part, that if appropriate time, at this time
and we didn't have the problem but we will be happy to work with him on it.
sayar
wo-zk.;6 uut, --ind 1 Uzu*---a L -;.atLjC Or i6.ivas ...
it seems lika both iota can wo,:r, trlio 0-,1L. Do You
concur with that
'Mayor Jk.rrk:::
Mr. HOEK=
Thank yo-
Mayor YL-r`I:0.'
%a&: you
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vaidmai,,]:
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and my cwncurn- tod"Y...
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bu Ol,id zo lot yvi know,
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do il- on
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Of 'nOW MUC;i SOU �,ktL L;1_1 '1LiC1U1*-
Sua. 0100. Y"". YJ L.5"CLM, a:/Cl ii!L,
1"Y vVik, whiah is Lou 0: SO pola"; Q"" Was vaiuvi
v.11 nou ad rL'
in C1at.
V.,; y L
;'i
L)v vI' - ch,
f." a 1 t 17 L; t'G it VOL.'Y ",ICI� V)--V Wall
h0WLVU=, Lhore it Ono =111 90VC1 n 01 Lib XON", whit! 1" Ls "Wr
Will "n" -,,.L WI-1 do
Wh"n in is suppoon to jo, snZ chat
lao! 01
jdZ, u?jnnd nh,: p,,pj, C,A WEQ 0". Q ;hat portjon of rho pMperty,
no 'oay ..,z all, no
ri C, zi r U up to i:hu wacvr n o gh
( -I -.�. 0 t �
SOMO n."U SatlOn with LN Hannin, Li:; 'I'd.- -n. h --y
c,'L� .1,)VL �,ac'a C'i 1.Lvit �.bile provida a iez loack iCom the watcn.- o.,7 cj,-,Iy filcuon Ka" AL Uhc� Y1oa1d hea-ring lasrweek,
aos ts. an, a A -If n;a, Zhu LIPPIRN.t i1:1i1c tL at ill that. bay
chat suz back of MCM.-, _'C,L, LhCirL Will. 'Ou it ;1C1t::4Jalk
tisa L :.,. ,� 6'.' �,I% '�3 L\k;L.�IVL� ". %l:�.0 7,:1 VII�Zn, -;�) applicant
was wayiny w,b a" Ch,C porZion 61 LWL. Wt-1 Will. Only
00, A Oil 101i. 14:1211. njk, WnIZ, i., Ltk�(.:LC"ZUC as bctirig, the� bay walk
for sh, plunjiv to hav, accus. ", On bay, in chin particular property
swu this pyopwrZy is Qo bun�'ii..i: .:t O Lay Wall to that entire
=Tlp V Kinkoll Avznac, U.s in "ccuwu Lhaz K in. proposing for
;hoc unnivu 6wrip of z10 „Lr,es. 7 A.Q Sac WO CLL"r thaw when
yWrw WON, SOUL a bay w"jk Q"Z LO Prow. souchwest
ei,hLh S=eal all Che Way Up LG I= LO:O1101d. L,",t! 'CiVar, 'Chat: Lb .0 i%
4. fifcuen foul sac back 16 1101; f0j:
MCOS6 CO Ch-t SLract and the a?pllcant w4s saYla�, t1lac h,:: :uuld not
P0,00,Y malc K no � 0", Nfruen Not '�-Ocausu hu'li.l.Ye:iily got a
:aC:hQY 00C in C—OULn 10M NOM QU SU- Wall that eXISU- Well
1 wunz d34.., LOUV� L010Y, and h�uld lfald zo lut cl-: .,aevaburb of Lh16
C"=!bhUn ksow oh"r CH Qcbroation San was present,& cc tha zonin'',
board was ,naly Nusuratu and misl,adinj and this is the informatio-LI
poovivej by the a?plicanv. Yz junt 6a Opp= zhaz cirivc in iacill-
,iZI*UctuvL :L5i ipprOXiT:atc!-
ly foul :000 the bown1l. a POrCjOn Of tha
NNU in LvIlOr laCTIlly Chat fe.t
COIL:C.,.. n d, C:.(,',I "it o LW:, Wa r.zq'o L! twolve
rlzc4 on foul Mcu 14,7. 3 \_,L"Ivj ;:l,0. COVO.rb t.n,)Se
Q f if CY f 1 UZ f :D,: LAO 61MA!, TLL 011C*11i,.%,.., C?"'t. iL, ,If tecir,
ibou
rI . 01,11:,
•r
from the sea wall is a drive way. And . be_`!L.ve th.t,_, urive
way is going to have to ba removed anyway, if the .p;,iicunt is talk-
ing about putting in an building. So if: the applicant stands before
the Zoning Board, I would like to tell you that hiS drive in facility
is fifteen feet from the shore line is a gross in accuracy and
something that I thin:: that should be celled to icnc! afte.ntion of ti«:
Commission today. t;asically there's ono other point I would like to
raise and that is the bridge. The bridge extends —as you know a
bridge doesn't start right at the shore line, it extends from twenty
five feet or so into the upper portion, so that the applicant provided
a fifteen foot wide walk way the access to that walk way would be un-
available to the public because of the existance of the bridge and
then the only way that the applicant.., that the public could get there
would-be ny walking over the drive way to the drive in fatality, which
wouldn't be sane. In short the t,,ay walk on that portion of the property
is grossly inadequate and should be required to be widened sufficiently
to provide the proper pedestrian access and as we'll hear on the twenty
fifth to meet the! water front amendment, and 1 hope that you will make
amendment of this part...portion of their plan] rcie conditions of the
approval thin DRI, thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any other speakers that wish to speak -
on this issue.' If ;lot Mr. 7r."urig"
Mr. raurig: 1. would just like to cull tQ the Cot;;;1ission is a,-tention that
there is a c0nditlOn in the devolop711011t order re' .4.iL'1�:,il -O the bs\' Walk
which says that we shall provide prior to the issuance of the certi:icant
of occupancy we shall :submit Landscape plans for a bayfront walk way
for review and approval of the Planning and Public Works Department,
provide and construct the bnyfront walk for approved plan, dedicate a
twenty foot wide public iasement immediately upland of the main high
water line and provide perpetual. maintenance of the bayfront walk at
our expense in 1°urtheraIlCe of the
whole concept provided for in the charter amendment, however to explain
the workings of the bay walk in this area, I like to call on Mr.
Larry Sill, who is the architect with the firm of (INAUDIBLE)
and he will explain the design, processes that lead to this.
Mr. Larry Sill: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, I am Larry Sill,
partly to charge of designed for architecture at (INAUDIBLE)
__Elm Street. If I could address some of these issues
that h_ave_ been brought tip today, and hopefully clarify some of the
discussion. I'd first like to go to the plan. This site plan here, it
indicates as you can see off southeast eight street the entrance into
the drive in facility, which goes below the parking structure as proposed
in this area. There was some mention a., to the location of the perma-
nent drivv in bank facility, it is set back, It is in a location
about here, however the integral purrs of the bank. of the drive in
facility are certainly the stacking; lane, to fret the traffic off
of the street, so therefore, this drive in or this road way facility
is certainly an inr.ecran part of that.Tno.... another issue that was
discussed was the set back, the! fifteen foot set back minimum set
back, it has been established for the ovelr head, over hang area as
you would see as illustrated in this rendering as this type of area,
and is here. Thcru's one level above the: existing ,trade due to the
fact that we have to provide to the flood plane there. I think that
can been soon best in this rendering here, you can see that only the
over hang; of the upper level is within fifteen feet of the cut out. The
lower portion on the first grade is grade parking.
This is the view looking south, toward the Intercontinont;il ciotel.
So that.., here at the end of southeast eight street
the cut out the sea wall 'located here and then the upper level of the
wall ... of the, I'm sorry, of the, retail arias would be located here.
The wal. Way itself is located in this area, varies in width from
fifty to seventy feet and down to a minimum or fifteen feet here.
We do intend to take as a buffer one from the ... between the drive in
bank... drive way facility and the cut out where the sidewalk would be
at it's narrowest point and have plpting in there, so that we can
provided' in there for some visual rcliaf,We feel it's adequate.
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Mayor Forre: While you're there, let r,le lib:'. L"i-IL. If 1 a
a citizen and I am over at the Dour n.uba: ;ac:J',: and to w"ik along
y the river's edge, which is the original intention of Lhat -ifr.y foot ,
set back how would I do that?
Mr. Sill: You would probably cross the street at the aoatl,cast eight
street crossing, which is established at Lni6 time, wale dougi and
through this area...
Mayor F'erre: Well how can I walk down and there's a ramp there.
Mr. Sill: Vm sorry, there's a sidewalk on this :Site o� the street.
I'm sorry, this is ... this is not a ramp here. All of this is on trade
all. of this...
Mayor 2erre: Vlat is that "S" curve that seem to L, a..,.
Mr. Sill: This is an on Grade entrance drive way hertz.
Mayor Ferro: Well where do I, as a pedestrian walk without being run
over by a car?
Commissioner i'lu-mriler: On the ti;ird :door.
Mayor Ferre: Igo I have to oo into the 'ol.lildin., and then cozie out -
Mr. Sill: NO you would not go into L'n,: building; and conic out, you
would ... I, I'm...
Mayor F'erre: Well just tell...
Mr. Sill: 1 am not SUre that rilCre'ti 6 6idUWalk 10CaLe6 i;. ;:hi;, a'i'e.'a......
,Kayor Forre; Let me just tell you, I'm only spc.akin, one person on
this commission, just so that you know I will vote against thi„ project
on the -wunty fifth based on Lhe pral7encacion you have just rlade. 17hat
as totally unacc,:•)table to roe, that's ,just one vote. I....wu put the
f ity foot set Lack for a reason, I don't see...I don't have any problems
with you going; back :,evunty five feet in some., area and twenty give
in ocher and avera.-ing it, I don't have that problem, but f.rolr, what I
can Sue what you are in effect doin3, is cutting; out pedestrian walk way
and I think that...the reason for that set back is so that people..
the: peer le o: , anybody can walk along the water udFi: and I don't
mini; you art providing for that.
'MIr. Sill: Well Mr. Mayor, 1 have the architect records and
would certainly :;ha're you , Ol;Cctr11S there, .Arid it' Would lie }>e ;1 1111i1le
projecC, if WE: wart. riot i:DIE: to In a '
about, so we will also address that issue and it's a very im,:ortallt
issue to the wori.ing of this project.
t,Uyor i''erre; 1 want to know Clow Citi4ons "John A. Public" c1i1 walk.
around c i ;hth scre4t and wall: to Lhe: riverLront and walk along the rivor-
f•rout all the way to the mouth o the raver.
, with us on the Lwcncy fifth tl dGl;Clil. £,C};C:PkltiC_
',';ow -Poor! ,t:ri.ans will bc?. able to e t g . to the wallcWay, :And
,IC anV Tatu 01-.S Y.:;6ue is an issue properly addressed oil the twenty
,ifch, it is not ::n issuo for the development order in whic.il in iCSelf
imposes the conGi.ti.or, that we do have this; river walkway available to
public and C0 1St!,%unrly we think the: devi lojlM , t' O;.t.r:T or the p,�C}1
L}lilt's ri COm;;illlGt�1 by staff and by the Plannin,, Advisory :3oard sllDject to
thu chan�Os that has been reco*mended by Mr. Hoffman and 'nis modified
recotmended for mocification-by,me,
Mayor 'c'erre: Mr. F03940tn may I, ask you this question? In thc: intcre5t
of continuity and as solno of my
co] �ca:;uc::; have: ;;11 w.;ys said, ki:epi112
l:hL`I- f--eL iIl th:: fir,, 1s tnuru ;i.,y reason w^y we Can not co.Itinuia MIS
Public hcc,rin; until t`,` e L'uienCy' f:':Ch 4'nere u1 11, w4 will vote upon the. .
tG1S I-slie ;;.jolt':.; with t'he the fjTLy toot Se L JGCI: 15Sut at '
one tim .
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Mr. Fosmoen: There is no reason if the Con.^mission cnouses why you
can not continue this hearing until the twenty filth.
Mayor Ferre: I think in my opinion that in order to absolutely
guarantee that the owners of this property, I'm talking about the
Nasher people will come back with �,n acceotable solution that we hold
back any authorization of the development order until all. of these
items have been clarified including Plummer's concern on parking.
Mr. Fosmoen: That raises another point I want to make with the Commis-
sion, that is the Commissioner...the commission expresses a desire to
review the decision of the Zoning Board granting the variance of some
thirty, three spaces for parking, then we will not be able to have a
hearing on the twenty fifth, but we will have to set it some future
date in order to meet the advertising requirements.
Mayor Terre: Let me ask you this. Suppose we don't do it in a formal
way is there any reason why if we do not authorize the issuance of a
development order, Mr. Plummer can not bring out that question at that
time?
Cotanissioner Plummer: Thank you Maurice, I'm not concern about it
Dick, I will withdraw my motion to bring it up as a part, because I can
surely handle it in another way.
Mayor Ferre: Does that solve your problem?
Mr. Rice: Oh very definitely,
Mayor Ferre: So what's the word on this commission now?
Commissioner Gibson: Mr. Mayor, you mean we're going to vote to give
an development order?
Mayor Terre: No.
Commissioner Carollo: I would move to defer this to the...
Mayor Ferre: To the twenty fifth.
Commissioner Carollo: ...To the twenty fifth. I think we can vote
upon it more intelligently.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, then I think the thing to do if that's a form of
a motion...
Commissioner Carollo; Yes
Mayor Ferre: That, that ... I remember three —be ... continued I guess
is the technical word and we'll be jointly heard along with the item of
the fifty foot set back when we hear it on the twenty fifth day of
July, somebody said item seven of the Zoning hearing. Is that correct?
And at that time then we will be vote...that will also give time for
the Inter-;ontinental Four Ambassador group to work out their differences
if there are any, so then we will hear it at that time. Is there a
second to that motion?
Commissioner Plummer; Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer seconded...
-Commissioner P1«mmer: Wait a minute, excuse me, alright I'll second
it for discussion.
Mayor Ferre: Go head.
Commissioner Plummer: I think it's only reasonab-le to ask
what problems does this create if any for you. I don't think it does.
Mr. Traurig: We've got no problems, I think we would like to have
it september 25 instead of July 25 Mr. Mayor.
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Commissioner Plu'rm;,er: Well you know latia time is a latrle slower
Mayor Ferre: Alright the twenty fi'ft;j of Sapteuuer, Any further
discussion on the motion? 1f r10t please call the -roll.
7he following motion was introduced by Convnissionor Carollo,
who moved its adoption.
MOTION NO. 80-628
A MOTION 0'r' TiiE CITY CO:�Y,ISSION Tu CONTI\ur: DISCJSSIOti O:i
THE ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER Ai"PROVING WITH ;MODIFI-
CATIONS, THE HASHER PLAZA PROjLCT, A 1)"EVLLOPi11ENT Oc REGIONAL
IMPACT, LOCATED ON BRICYFLL AVcNU-_-' BZT` IErE\ AP?rOXIM.,%TELY S.E,
7TH NN'D 3TH STREETS, TO THE CUNMT..SSION MEETING SCHEDULLD
TO TARE PLACE ON SEPTEti3ER 25, 1980, SO THAT IT MAY TIE
JOINTLY H;:AliD Wliii THE ISSUE OF THE PARKING AS 1AT1L AS WITH
THE 50-FOOT SETBACK ISSUE.
Upon being seconded by Corzissio'ner Plu'imler, the motion w<,s
passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES:
Coi=issione•r Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner P111-inner
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Maurice Ferre
NOES: Nonk.
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13. GILkN CASrl CONTRIB TION-8TH ANN- AT, HISPAYIC HER1 TA1'tE WE1..X
1. ,+
Mayor care: 1 have a note here that fir. Bill Gregg, Vici President
of Eastern Airlines has got to catch thy-' airplane, would you believe
1 hops? it's. Eastern and ize ha:a an e,7erZency on item sixry three,
Go ahead Mr. Grcigg.
,%fr. Bill Gregg: Mr. Mayor thank you very much also '.embers of the
City Commission. .
Commissioner Plummer: Are you for it or against it Bi119
Mr. Gregg: I'm for it,
ia,ur.issioner i'lurt;�_:: I move item sixty three.
Mayor Ferre: Alright is there a second?
Co;,imissionur Gibson: Wait a minute,
.ziyor Ferre: Alright is there a second?
Commissioner Lacasa; Seconded.
MLIYlr ri:rro: Mov,td by Plu wr r;econdc: i by (,aza_a, item sixty three.
Is there any further discussion? If not call tha roll please
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The following resolution was introduced by Co maissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 60-629
A RESOLUTION IN CONNECTION WITH THE 8TH ANN-YAL HISPANIC
HERITAGE WEEK, 0"; OCTOBER 3RD THROUGH OCTOBER 12TH, 1980,
CLOSING CERTAIN STREFTS TO 7rIROUGH TRAVFIC ON OCTOBER 5TH,
1980 DURING SPECIFIED HOURS AND ESTABLISHING A PEDESTRIAN
MALL; SAID STREET CLOSING SUBJECT TO ISSUANCE OF PERMITS
BY THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPART,%2NTS: PROVIDING 711E SERVICES
OF 2 REGULAR POLICE OFFICERS; AND PROVIDING A :M1*,NRN,
A4MOUNT OF CASH ASSISTANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,783 TO THE
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY OFFICE OF LATIN AFFAIRS, SAID FUNDS
TO BE ALLOCATED FROM SPECIAL PROGR.ANfS AND ACCOUNTS:
QUALITY OF LIFE PROGRAAi-=LIfUNITY FESTIVALS: SUBJECT TO
SAID GROUPS' SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE PRO-
VISIONS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE CITY OV MIAMI
CO?EMISSION POLICY 100-4; AND FURTHER PROVIDING THAT SAID
OFFICE SUBMIT TO THE CITY MANAGER, WITH 60 DAYS FROM THE
DATE OF SUCH FESTIVAL, A DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF GROSS
RECEIPTS RECEIVED BY IT BY WAY OF FEES AND FUNDS RAISED
IN CON-NECTION WITH THE AFORESAID FESTIVAL, TOGETHER WITH
A DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF FUNDS DISBURSED, INCLUDING THE
MANNER IN WHICH NET PROFITS ARE TO BE DISBURSED, TOGETHER
WITH A STATENENT OF THE SLDIS DISBURSED, AND ESTABLTSHI:tiG
THE AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS DURING THE FESTIVAL
PERIOD,
Upon bei.n8 seco:idud by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
14, APPROVE IN 'RINCIPLE- SOUTH FLORIDA EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
COORDINATING COUNCIL FOR i'INANCIAL ASSISTANCE,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption,
;LOTION NO. 80-630
A MOTION OF THE CITY CO?LMISSION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE
CONCEPTS OF' THE SOUTH FLORIDA EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
COORDINATING COUNCIL, INC. AND AUTHORIZING THE FUNDING OF
$5,000 FOR ASSISTING IN THE FINANCING PROCESS,
Upon being soconded by Co:ranissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Mayor Forre
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NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Lacasa
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15. GRANT REQUEST- Y1.T0 LITTLE 'RIVER M2,',-E1?C'-E AISSOCYATION, INC.
$50,000 REXA!!,;-,)ER OF CO-,MD-TJNITZ
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introduced n-a., fo!".owing -aiotiora was
moved its adOpLion.
Moll-l"ON NO. 80-6314.
A MO"I"I'ON OF THE CITZ CO-`�MISSICYN TO C;R
THIS CC*Lv:jN*I:k.' D'EVELO?�'ll"'N', k,.,
ASSOC !ATION , TNC. IN AIXDU,'vT U? $50,00C, FO-i\
Di VELOPNIfENT OF AREA.
Upon bein, secondcci bY C 0 Vr,"-, -s --, i o, I V, -r t 11 U Z: 1,) 7& W,lz) jl3 t U C!
and adopted by the followin;; vote:
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Co-,xiiissioner Plu"-ac:r
Mayor Forru
NDi:S) : None
T ; Co=.issionur LacA.7a
VO)-LOWING ROLL CALL:
mz�!Yor
of thi- savinc�s 1:ond DiViSiCW1, 01 thL 79 Cxrn.)airjr,,, '.-'or Bjnd
Prograr, for city of miaz*li
-M,)E;L au�,ust tidy 01w
i-ttle Word butorQ you go on?
X'i y,:) Ir F -�: r r u : Go Chc!u-, .
WL. Wzll.,L t,) 4k1a1-,K you or yoLr sup-dol*LIVU po:ii1�11ol-.
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1.i1d,-,k DZ* po!�izlon zhc,,�, youlvu
And We a-'jo Wall: to yo,,i fcr the sul)portivc! youlvu Go,e wj-�.h
U.l� in rej-ferencc! tc, our th;-A wt' just dk'dC .cai;ed, ct,-.4 wL:
you bOrc!ly. Wu hope yc)u b'OuqhL oack good dollava fror,,, your
to Washington.
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16. SUPPORT U.S. SAVINGS D)0:41) P';OG -``:'i r0. CI'_'Y-i';PLCY7.!:,S
Mt Ut} u.rr. ;jrnf•..�.q iPnr.•J �ln1l ! w••.a�.�1 ' �� J•( q-,r.:.•
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Mastrogiovanni.
Mr. John-Mastrogiovanni: I think I'd like to begin by -banking the Commission
also, for its support last year, unanimous support in thu Savings Mond
Program in 1979.
Mayor Ferre: What can we do for you this year, sir?
mr. Mastrogiovanni: We had difficulty with the program last year because
of a lack of coordination in the administration. And we would like to
request that the City Commission once again give its support to the program,
and that it designate somebodv for us to work with to coordinate the
prograun for the employees in the City of D:iami. So that we might have:
a strong effort in early 1981 in order to promote savings ponds.
Father Gib�;On: Mr . X.ayor... are you tn=OU910 Sir? I talked with, le;:.i
sec, someone from the union. Sir, would you please stand. I hope, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, r^athc.r.
Father Gibson: I hope you hear this. The union people are whole-heartedly
for this, and cooperating,. vnat really disturbs rile is, we all know
how important it i:, to sell bonds for our country. I would hope ,.hat the
administration, the new administration would be Irlorc: cooperative and
ho more vigorous in helping to do this. You know, wh•�n I travel around
the world, different 1,arts of the world and sue what I see there, and come
back to this country, I wonder how, I Wonder sometimes how many of us really
understand how fortunate we are. We don't want to buy our own country's
boards. I don't under:,tana. And I hops'•, Mr. Mayor, as we take the action
this afternoon, tha'.: we would say to the administration, we want- an
agressive, affirmative action in this matter, and not just, you know,
pat the people on the shoulder. The union is for it because nobody has
a gun to anybody's head and saying you better buy. But my God, man, if you
don't believe in America, who in the world will? And I just believe that
the way this thing was handled in thu past, there wasn't very much
enthusiasm. I feel bad, and I just hope •::hat everybody who handles this
business around her(,, is going to have a cllr,ange of heart. And sir, I want
to tell you this, if you don't see some aifZirmative action and energetic
action in six months, I want you to come right 'to that office, anc. I'm
going to come back up here and I'm go.in,-i to rt:ise hell because I think
we're selling America cheap. Okay? All right.
Mayor Ferre: Than't; you very much. Is there anything we need to ao at
this point?
Mr. mastrogiovanni: Would you pass a resolution?
Mayo FutrJ: Yuz_ , of ,.uursu. Is there a motion?
Fathr--r Gibson: Motion is that we support this program whole-heartedly and
enthusiastically.
Mayor F'erre: Fa thur Gibson moves. Is there a second?
bL' . Lacasa: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Its been seconded.
Father Gibson: 1 want those words in the reiiiolutlon, too.
Mayor Terre: Further discussion? Call the roil., please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
i•iOTIOi: NO. 80-632
A MOTION OF: CITY
:LUj3POF�1 OF .,ta . AVi 6 ;.�.�.� i cwG_.,}; rOr: CITY OF
:•i;,li:.iil.C; THE A:�✓iI;�.lai�ii_�0.io i,' S.t Ir4
lilt•' COORDINATION OF THL SAVINGS BOND PROGRAM, FOR THE CIT'i
EMPLOYEES
Upon being seconded by COm,.,L.Ssioner Lacasa, the motion was passud
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Com-,lissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J.L. P:4u: r,er, :;r.
*Commissioner .7oe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferro
NOES: None
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carolio: Yes. And in 1',:y vot:inci yas, I'd ll}:tr to ertphasi-,e SOmG'G �ln��
that Father Gibson stated. That if anyono has any doubt if we're selling
Am%:rica cheap, just ask the Ayatollah.
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17. FIRST READING ORDI\A.�'CE : MIAMI CITY D911,0YEES RETTRE N T SYSTEM
Administration of said system to be vested in CITY CC) SSION etc.
/' i N, � 11'.'J"AC1:I�4R �r { 14. �• y, :�'Yr IY�: � .
Mr.Byron Sparber: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, may I interrupt a moment.?
Mayor Terre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Sparber: My name is Byron Sparber. I've been retained as special
counsel to the City Olf Miaml with respect...
Mayor F'erre: Yes, sir, Mr. Sparber.
to the Ctstirulnun*,: :.la:. and w:,i auL1r�
I had 1.tLen advised to be here shortly 3l: Lur three O Clock
twunty-eight and twen'Cy-nine on Lhe &gur.Ga. Unfortunat'C:ly, dO -J' .VC: J:1�
t.imu renair.iny, ,,jut I Wi11 h�ivc to bu IQ&Virti,I by u41�JLUl,.iiditcl`f iGL. +.l.rty.
Anal as matters are moving, it does not app�ar that this i; art
,mayor FBrrc : I thlnt'. thifi Is CjOing to JL' a 110at<:d ite ,, bor., `. v,,un ' - l :. j.1
and twenty-,':ine. So 1'.", le'cs sec. We have Mr. Lop't ,. anvil ;dr. Car:,Unutte
is next. `l'l'IL'n we have, is AlaniZGC1:aWa;!• Okay, i'll tell yoll What, 1Je111
I;jo until .Cur O'c1Oc% a',Q i;ICrt We111 take you up at four so that you'll be
a't.le to leave by four -thirty.
llr. Pluixnor: well tir. iayor, don't kid yourself. Okay? In all fairnes.�
to thie, gentleman, let 11lil'1 go ahlsaci and leave because this itcmis not
going to be over in half an hour.
Yx. Spal:bor; 1 will stretch it to a degree. But I huva a lim.ted amount
that I can stro�.cn it.
Mayor Ferre : 4.'1>ii wQ , ru not going to put this thing off, thz t' a for sure.
but I dor, It want to hoar half of it and then have this
yenti�;a�.r. have to leave and say please: hula it up.
Mayor Forre. %miiio, vv, sorry. why don't you :;it down. we'il take
u , item tvrenty-eight bucaLi se I thin% It's-1 want to ma:•:C . uru that all
t C ...A C. uh(:LlCILi:1, tiiY. Sullivan, we're ti:kirta uP item L1nt_ l'C.}'-1 1iJ(it and
tWcnL'.'-n].nC }.now it's of lnt�ire.!;t 'C.O you. And I saw thu representatives
of the Fire ;:,t jparallent too, so lets
Mr. Plununer: well where is hu?
x.ayOr C l + i : All right, thOru he i:;. Vkay IqO l ru L'.O C-dk%� 'u.0
izam twunty... have: you i3ot your laWYOr.s .:nd a?.1 that: hure? Okay, take
up item twenty-eight. Co ahead, Mr. Manager.
mr. ?o;moen: Mr. Gary.
N.r.. tiaward G tr',�: .mr. . t't.yor and City Comnlissionurs, apprc%: Mjr l.y lien
moron's aye, ult:von monuh.'; a ,J, thv City 47filrll:i:i1011 :AuLhOr'1'cldd the Clty
Manacjur to oul:ain tnv st-Xvice!J of the Spzi '; er firm to 100}: :.it U,�nsrcq
1'i ;t.I:CL'Lirlrt j. i1:, .. re6ult ow this contract, we have met On numC:1'Uu&'
ore ,_;ions r'tamc:ly tine City Manare;r, Law Department with
Mr. Bryan iparbur wl'lo i:s here today. Basically, wu have come Out with
an ordinance 'chat pr. it:lari:ly dOQs fouYV things. The :first is to remove
tile j�rl Bunt iti t:'I.Un1Gt1L' Board as ad,%.nistriator of the FJGnsion Pla:i, and
rovu.lt tnAt Wit'n Lhtr City Com+nission. Thi: second is to remove --ne
oxistin j board of tru6tc:u., and invoct thooc: ruspona:ibillL'ies With the
City Commission. And tho third and ':he final thing this ordinance does
is to set up a per.aion bent/ it: i boas which is primarily an ;appeal
Process for psi: ;Tenant: who arc see%-Lng to be eithtsr put out on pension due
It
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Mr. Gary (continued) , to di:;a'A—
zug(jesting that this 1?articular C.dii. o u: ,.i':�'. J
Flr;it of ill, as Mr. Sparber will -ol'. ,/oli, t::`tutlt:u
of the City are resting with t1ric City �o;ar...,,�;an, '(:u.:.. .. , w uo not
want to he placed in tine sable :iilluazioli t:iut'. ?7t ':._ i.;: ;r�:.,.:::.�y, ;:nd
that is, the City Coxnis6ion is prese ,`;. ;! ii', + (?':. i ;i C::..a' of
taking ail acticn different t:.an those
of both pension plans. if this action doC.s 1.:7'L L:UQ 'y, WC tllzly
Tend ourselves In the ;ulJe no s i t ion I
c.3 iUiult'.�j th"t. C: ;G Cit;' Ca,-T,:.3E;10'.
Cadoi46 the curr(:.nt pension budge: wiL,l " ..ive over Lilt;:
c=:unt year appropriation. With t:lic.(L :iuT::;arY, I'd Ike ;;r. 5,:+arber
to explain the two ordinances that are before you.
Mr. Plulrator: Mr. Losmoun, while he's Wcti l'.tJ tor
in 'whis masv, of paperwork, there is an extet',S,.Or. Oi o: epr.l ' L i v;.tr.iC i ,
Is it 111a;?
Mr. Gary: Yes, it is.
Mr. Y(.s, It is.
Mr. Plummer; lvrhat item is it?
Mr. Gary: Thirty-seven.
Mr. Pltvi=er: Oh, thirty-seven. Okay.
mayor Forre: All right, Commissioner Carollo wants to ask for a deferral.
Go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would like to *ask for a deferral on this,
know that I believe you asked for a defrrral w1len it was put or, the agenda
about a month and a half or two ago, but: I was under the =',pr�.;sion that
it was going to be modified. I personally, have not had the ample time
to look at the areas that I need to look at. And I don't thin: it's
being fair to other people that are interested in this, the short time they
really had to go over what needs to be gone over here.
Mayor Ferro: Joe, we have a very serious problem in deferring this
item. Let me just briefly put it on the record. We have a law suit that
this might very severely affect. I think that if we defer it, we're talking
about something that could cost us millions of dollars, not thousands of
dollars. So I think perhaps, maybe we might want to listen to the attorney
explain why this is such an essential thing.
Mr. Carollo: I don't mind listening, but what I'm saying is that if we
were able to defer for a month and a half or two without it costing us
millions of dollars, I don't see how it can cost millions of dollars to
defer for about eight more days. ,
Mayor Ferre: Because the law suit, the date of the law suit is, when,
Howard?
Mr. Gary: I can't recall right off hand.
Mayor Ferre; But as I understand from attorney Bob Paul, the law suit
is eminent at this poi;tt, or, the settlement of it.
Mr. Gary: Well, we had the appeal, the appeal hearing is supposed to have
occurred last Monday. I'm not familiar with the outcome of that appeal
process.
Mayor Ferre: When is the appeal? Because if we have, you know, he
says a week. I guess what he's talking about is the twenty-fifth. What's
ten days. If we can defer it ten days.
Mr. Gary: Well the critical issue here, Mr. Mayor, well let me just bring
up two things. first of all, this ordinance is no different than the one
we had on the agenda before. I am sure that the union's and the lawyer's
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Mr. Gary (continued): have this becau;ie they've contacted me wit;, regard
to this. So they've had it, at the time that you withdrew it at the last
meeting. The second issue is that we're in the process of deliberating
on the budget. And if we adopt a budget based on what is recommended
which will be different that what the Board of Trustee's have recommended,
we will have ourselves, we possibly could have ourselves into another,
a second law suit for the same reason.
Mayor Ferre: Very serious.
,24r. Plummer: I would hope, Mr. Gary, in t."ie interest of fairness, that
you would correct your last statement to what is more factual. And that
is not necessarily that which was recommended by the board of Trustee's
but that which was developed by the actuary and approved bl the Board
of Trustee's.
Mr. Gary: I stand corrected.
Mr. Plur nor : Thank you,
N.ayor Ferre: All right.
:dz. Plummer: Is there a motion on the floor, or not?
Mayor Ferre: Yeah. I'm sorry, you're right. There's a motion for
deferral. Is there a second to that motion?
Mr. plu.xuTQr: Is it a motion? Yes, I second the motion.
Mayor Ferro: All right, there's a motion that this item be deferred.
.r. Plummer: Under discusison.
Mayor Ferro: Under discussion.
;.r. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have stated before, I'm going to state again.
I understand, I don't concur where the City Commission and the administration
are coming from. But Mr. Mayor, I have worked with this pension now for
five and a half years, and I want to tell you, even what the administration,
in my estimation, is trying to accomplish in these ordinances, is not
going to be accomplished. I think these ordinances need more work, I think
these ordinances need to be brought into reality, and I don't think that
this accomplishes that what's trying to be done. The bottom line is
dollars. The bottom to the employees is retirement benefits. The employees
have not been made to understand, at this particular ordinance, it does
not change their benefits. What the employees are petrified of is the
I fact that this would be opening the door to the possibility of the change
of benefti:. Mr. Mayor,this is the thing that his, in my estimation, has
not boon given the ample study, planning, and the bottom line, to be
workable.
i Mayor Ferro: Mr. Plummer, in responze, as I recall, the second reading
of this would be thirty days hence?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, th.:.'s normal.
Mc,yor Furrw: Or wu could havo it on the twenty-fifth. But I would
imagine ... when is the second reading going to be?
Ma', Gary: The twenty-fifth, sir.
M.tvor Ferro; i see. Well. then we would have ten days, hopefully, to
10i is,h, to look at the difference.,, and debate the issue on the twenty-fifth.
L. there furr.her discussion? Call the roll on the deferral.
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6 0
THEYEUPON 7rIZ FORUGOYN. NICTION 'w;a-s in-croduced
by Cazollo
Coimissio,ner Pl%mamur, anu Ct 1cat a '--y
.0110wing Vote;
i%YES: COIMZ.:LSL;iOAI�fJOi CaZ:0110
con-l"'issLonar J. L. Pluzrvicr, Jr.
NOES: Commissioner �K.Qv.) Thuodc�re A-. Gibso,-,
ViCQ-Mayor
,Mayor VlaurlcU A. lo'erre
ABSLNT: Nono
Mayor Yr:rre; Proceed.
xx. Bryan S:)cirbur: fi::6"� 1 WCI:A!CI LC:
is trio
"at; i',CI.*.�-,jng in i:.hu;Q� G:.d;.nanc(.s, Y 1ielltaV':
rel,�47-es to Pen -"Ion at C;
whicn zirts tuinj :,rQ! to chongu
wit'r, vc;spect to the an-c', t,lt i-wzirun-C:,-,z
prc!.,;cn-L arciinancCs affcc-cintj thU
two ontiti,:s zfor purix)st7s. They
thu
i3 z,'.I,.] ot rccorc. -LQping,
Thi s for this etc.
whim, IS C& S"Id.lUr
whose furctjon is to tilt
L;tructuru coday. Ti,.,U jZ'Qp0SQCL arQ !7e.sicallv ldt:nt
with to t'-a; PI"n Tin4
.::.1: .1 tv S, u
. P,Q't: .
still, w3u!,� w-zh zh,:�
the: '.-)..;ln, to
rus.,uC-c C.C) -Chc i.-: :.Ccm,; Of inraivlcluI- ("J.,
to t:hC. f-unc-zions W*.-..`C;*h ar,;: rLCUil:Ld tJ ---c.;
or at least to ,Uu co t'nuy ,ru
,%nd, any e r C; c n 0 v a 1 mi r.:, ra a I f U n ct- IC"n
14—S, r-inc;— funczions
will lldu oY " -,\'C.-tiroment Board w1nich zhtz: proposoC, oj:dirjuncc.�
W3-uld dusiqnatu t,.-Ae City as conti"..uzing. Thu 6ccond entity
involw-,,-i :n C;'-L oncjoinc� tion -: t.-jo :,!a
a C, �L 11 is cd" lt�ci d RctiremQnt
dUzermirQ---- t1ic o-- bc,-.Qt*itz, r,:.,;Ojves
cju.--L,tiono .ki, to w:icn aC. individuz.! is ;nti-Lled to how vuc.-,
tho L,-: to, ar,"" sec., to it that hQ do%.:t, *Cc;.,::.,v(., w',-,cIt
he is entitle-d -:0 r,:z:uivv through z"v., of "
rirocodurc and SO -dL comjx�sul-, of tht:
'dum`L, tnl-, sam,�.- n,n,in❑1V1::Ui11: V/:iQ art: prc:Se,-,t-lY consti.t"-ted as
Lhu acLTiiniscr4tivc hours:. The wh!�',-, tnt-- crainar.,.-e
doo,"n"t Cl:t:ate, I:ucon!,tj.tk.tt:!F',
The -fumction, cIL :3tatLd, ij. Lo th. uncl
invost.m t_nts. Wi, ca:dinancQ ZhU ZL4p0nL!k)iI icv for fU;-,cj
rrkanaccaf,cnt in tho City Cnxr,,,i6zi`on. art: t"-,C:
cou.plc- 0:: th:.-se , an-'� that i & t
Li'- -C.iv Of the provi4i,,DnS al-e
in LIW :%Qw "rQ really rQcV'iI%a of
in Section !I.--, QO, and so 01., the F'01-idL� Statit-c-lL; which were
adL)y,-c.(.,d in 1971). L:o happy to answer any questions ii therf-, ,arc any.
Mayor Ferre: Ali right, questions? All right, arc wo c.-)oi,"Icj to near xror
You?
of IhL, !aUini:?',
IZ Lo
1J07. W,- tho cow'%�' 1co pa;;:,th��Le C: z I Or s6vk�r"!
no
'Lno qLiQstjonL
that t.hc city na.,;. bI:QA
4 too for
SQvUrctl year.,. An'.4 not ]"1z't away zhe and that
Mr. Klausner (continued): you havo lioW riUt --t:,,11Y
the problem. Arid in fact, if You �Oo"% at t ''''story 01' your own ponsi.on,
you'll find that the system that you presantlt, have:, which w�,:, adopted
in the middle seventies, has had the Best financial 1�Lrformar, of any
of the boards or financial. control, thc4t you 'lave had over the per, lor,
in its entire history, Arid the: prL:6t:nt pension system that you 'lave: now
rose out of systems that went bankiL1pt back in trio 301s. so What you're
doing is throwing out a system that's proven effective, granted, with its
problems, but that it's proven the most effective mt:thod that you've
had, and substituting for it the vary system that ceoutt:d tile: ;)roblem in
the first place. The second issue, are you changincj the bor,:ftis of the
employees? Thuru's 110 cluc-s ion. Look az the ordax,i, tr,Qs. Yc)u'rE: to-irci,
you're Cutting the amount: Oi e iti_)�.c'yee representation on the board In r, a%.
They say that you'll helve four on till J)oard,.; which is what you
nave now, but you're gciing to be j:,lacing .'ollc'o and Fire rupra.i untat ves
on the General Employees board, and, you'rc goln, to be placing General
Employees on the Police and Fire board. Yut., you have col;,ulc'ti.l different
standards of divability and different lcivel:i of bunc:::1t;„ and d1 rurcllt
contribution .uveIL for each oi: your two plane. So �'vLi'ru Ill':{inCl a;)nle5
and orang(:s with an unsatii;l:act'ory result. An—,` in depriving the nullce
and fire:, and thu General c:rl loyues and. the Sanit.:,Cion ti,111iloVLus of
fifty percent of tho. .I'uiirQ>Untat.ion that they now ur joy, yoU art! C1G:t.i111.t.f a1•
cutting a benefit, and 1:11iat is the right of trio ur,;)1oyeus t:.c bC ru Yu5( ntc!C1
in m,aaaging t:li Carr own plan. That Wets t:ce lr,tunt of t.'i C' State Lut)+Slatare
in 79 and 80, with plans such as we have nurc_ . Olir OW,-, ,�i.n:n.on OI'c,.l antes
say that this is aft irrevocable trust'. Wh1Ch meall:i under Stato law, t�,at
the fiduciary for che trust is to he the Board o1: Trustec's, different
from the City. This Coirimission as it's often said, and Mr. Mayor, V ve
hc?ar& you Say it many times, your: uif, you S y You ru;)resent the C iti:a-:iS
and you say that you have a responsibility financially not just to the
employees, but to all the people in Miami. Wz;,lk that's very diffe_'e,:t
that what a trustee, of a trust has to do. Thv trustee of � trues:: has only
one responsibility, :,nc: that's to see that: the funds, the assets, tho
income, and the administration of the trust is such that the gracitest
amount, of benefits is available for the beno£iciaries o:: thu, ::rust, and
the members of the trust. And for the Commission to put itself in that
position, you're having a serious problem. we have Cottnnissioncrr: sitting
as Chairpereions of our boards now. They vote as tie -breakers. in a sense,
they sit ari-iitors betwoon management's representatives and Itd-)or's
rcpresentative:s. But to put the Commission itself in that stead of
being responsibile to all the citizens r'iilancially, and also being
responsible to the trust financially, you're wearing two absolutely
inconsistent hats. knd that's a serious problem, "Ir. Snarbor talkei�
about the fear of, or no, Mr. Plummer talked about the fear of op,:l;ing
the door to changes in benefits. Absolutely that is a fear. Another
item in which we're engaged in litigation with t:l:c City right now, and
a matter which is the subject of litigation in three: of Florida':, five
apoelat-e district:', is whether or not pension and retirCcillf:lL' is a
subject. That i i, is it a subject that :should bc,taken to thG :,:arc,;,ininq
table. The Public Employee's Relation Commission in a dt2c1a4'atory statement
to tile: City of Miami said that pension banlfits are a term anu condition,
oi.' employment. The Commission also went on to :;ay that the pra:lc:.lt state
of the law is that you may bargain pension but you don't h„vo to. Sovoral
labor organizations and the COmmis�:ior, have gjone to court to make' those
mandatory subjects of bargaining undc:!• the State Constitution. so you have
ocher serious problems. Vni is a subject whicl, L;hould go to the
Cln�.lOVL'e:i at the IidrC),a1r'.11(j tdtllE . Z you're y'U1nCj tU C�1d11Qc: the
structure of their bunutits SystcLll, then certainly the!' shouIa have a
Sav in it, The noxt lu:iue. Ti, challgin] tht; bOar&il YOU're ;.1.1
ci-inging thu Flan, There':., nothing to guide the trustee`s. And ix. 1:,1ct,
yOU'ru taking out_ one of t�,u gruat.ui: t limlt:atlonS, which w.t tho 1;i11it.at.ion
on the t.ypt!:*� of lnvu jtlilont:; that thu fund can have:. The riia)ral cii)%'O nmunt
nlaCeS limltatlor,s on privatu sector :.Undo, wit.11 t(1e type of .lilvo tllloTit6
that they can make. On the 29th and 30th o: this month, the houou
of ItenresQntatives Conmi.tte on Education ani Labor will bo conduct.i.no
ht:arings on Feder.•,al regulation of our pension systum, and c`vcry other
public employee pension system in the country, for a bill known as PE'RTSA.
The Public E.mployue income Retirement Act bf. 1960. A bi.l Which is most
likely to pass and which will in many respects invalidate much of what's
SEr i 5 198J
lair. Klausner (continued) .an ..L .. _ l+. l`.a .r.L. �:.. �_ 1r..... .. _ .�.. ,,::: t:' ��... �L'\� 1,)y
the State Legisldture. 1 bt'ro"C ui.c.' C.i; Cuaic:.. ,..gip'.'. c:i 1::;"11Y. T.O
a study. On behalf of Local 1907 ana the FJ?, we'd 1bc morL? than happy
to meet with management's rei3rc9s,.11ltative',-;. We've lone , ecogni'i ed that
there's only so much water in the well to put. into the pension. That's '
not an 1'Cr:% that you have? t0 S(:11 iU t,j t�i:jil0:/e� :L`t tiUrU_l 'JUU „r:ikE
the most drastic Chancju i nd r t jldoj)t l p;:OVi:c; to be the �
greatest source of abuse and the rylcatt: st soured Of fir.ancial ir.s"cUrity
for the pe nsion, I subc,it that the=e inust- be a m:.:ch greater tii"aouriz or -
study. What is requircd on the bO:tom !emit, is an board Of
trustee'G. it board that is responsible to no One except thL;! trust and
its beneficiaries. one of the vost basic of trust is that
the setre'lor, Or the person w;io huts the vione?y in trust, iote ,n't act a5
� the trustee of the tryst, r2;Ieyr re incona;istcnt ObS art(1 1nCOn:ilStc':nt
theories. All& to 'remain true to what You f(L-11 i � your Ob�l.tjGC1U;i as
Comlrlissionurs wail the CltlGCr.u, WL' r(-: a:if.IlC you to .l.r.a o i�oLtrd
of trustt e., that Can "-0 ..:+L S:M-- Lili.ntj for its CG.'.St :.UC:r.Cy, 4l.7:iC r 1Co
the UmplOyta0s. And ."o•r taosc. rc,"zoa:i, 071 Ji:;chi_ o; :,o:;aI i'107,
,.
and FOP 20, we ask tr,l i Corn' s0r1 r.U'C LO IYrJVC t11..5, 11 ' to ''I '
Ordinances, but 'rather to Call -or (tr:rl.d1 Gyoe Menuz and tU li z U , Creazu
a pension sy!3ter thrtt is CUnoistent with t"le noecl$ O:' the C.1L'" fi;; ailC1 i.1lV,
but at th(? same tir'.le, reco,nizes the abt,Olutc: xight- Of th employces
to jocurlty and their pension, and which recognitus e,1SG, the intr.;rrity
as the Vary collective bargaining process that this City lies entered
and that talc "Prevailing RightsRights"clauses Ga.r
all Of our CO11L-'CtiVc; i�artfaiTlii;;j
agreements incorporate. Thank you.
Mayor %'errs: That was a very :;uccinc� and I understood it very clU 7-
And my congratulations to you for the clarity of it.
Father Gibson: I want to as;,: a question. Are you ... no, do you have
a further presentation? What I'm going to ask will wait. I won't forget
it. I promiae you that. I will not. That's all right.
idayor yerre: We'll have another presentation.
Father Gibson: Lets Hear it all. Let it all hang out because I'lr goirrg
to ask my question anyway.
x i�1C lard ulCklilg: Niy name i3' Richard S1Ckiri�J. fill an attorney iIl the
City. We represent Local 5c's?, the Internation Association of Firefighters,
Ar1,CIC, Ww 'r,: GpiGsed to this proposed ordinance. Nobody has ever done
r,,Iz before ana there ib a reason for that. It's like Will Rogers said,
"Nobody (:very stuck a stick of dynamite in their mouth and lit the fuse
because it's dangerous". And this proposed ordinance is danclero\is and
let me tell you why. It's not a good concept. A fiduciary, nis ordinance
mates you filuciaries. it's a po$ltiol; of Crust, of soleAln trust, Under
the law in holding talc. proprrl.;y of :;olcebody else with the promise to
redeliver it. So you can imagine; tn`�n that the law says, and tr.Q statute
is very Clear, that a trustee rust act prudently, must act wisc-.ly, otherwi6e,
he is personally liable. wisely doesn't imean "I did the nest I can, or that's
all I k-new how to do". It means w:.sa ;'. And if we add that part of the
,;tatutt3 amended last y :ar in the Florida Protection of Public L'mnloyee l s
i�(LilEmdrlL" Benefits Act, again a specific provision making the fiduciary'
of public employee pensions plans personally liable. And it is thu trend
of tale courts, in the Lakeland Case, and so on, recently. Again
favo_.4. :.ilu personal liability of public employees for do r acts. What
i:; thy\ to.,, of th..s personal liability which you are about to to} -.a
upon yolirselves? Well, it's prudence and wisdom. This ordinance says
that the plain administrator and fiduciary is you. And at the same tirle,
it say:; that you havty the unlimited power to delegate that responsibility,
including the fiduciary responsibility to :somebody else. Now that's a
mi.-.match of terms. aecauoe such delegation isn't prudent. It's not wise
to say I'm responsible but I'm going to give all of that responsibility
to-;onluz)odv olse. It's Kara Ghough in this life to be responsible for
your own acts, we don't expect to hot reapG.:uibltr for tha acts of our
enemies, but how can wo bt+ re- s:xan -✓ zor the .ct,, t:v .n Gf OUr friends.
That's what <iG' ''l'esidont KarSint:1 in so much trouble. wall, what choices
d0 you iiavr. in all Oi t1;1S? ZOtlr Vr: \Jot. CliplCe Y1Li1l1beY one, It $aVS right
v' L ( 1 l�v
1st
Mr. Sicking (continued): there, you can do it all yourselves. You're
the fiduciary you have the power to do everything yourself. Well that's
not very practical because you don't even have the time to do that, won't
even discuss whether you have the background and experience to do so. Just
the limitations of lime would not allow you to run this programs yourselves.
Because if a trustee took on more work than he could handle, and didn't
get it done, and didn't get it done right, that's not prudent, that's not
wise, that's a breach of trust, that's liability. So you can delegate it
to somebody else. That's very dangerous too because you're delegating
responsibility to others. The ordinance says you've got two choices on
the delegation. You can either delegate it to City employees or to non-
-city employees. If you delegate it to non -city employees, you delegate it
to people over whom you have no control. And that's not prudent, that's
not wise, that's not what a trustee does because it's personal liability.
So you can delegate it to City employees. Well we know that historically,
before the present system, the problems that were created that gave rise
to the suits that were mentioned before, because the opportunity existed,
the temptation to co -mingle funds. And so, to delegate the responsibility
to someone in the past, not individual persons, just the office who was
responsible for other city funds, the temptation to co -mingle funds is
too great, and that opportunity to provide it isn't prude, -it, isn't. wise.,
and is a breach of trust. So you're left with three not prudent choices.
Do it yourselves, delegate it to people outside they huve no control over,
or delegate it to City employee's who historically didn't do too well.
You have no guidelines in this ordinance at all as to how you will
delegate that power and that itself isn't wise. There's no guidelines or
limitations of what is to be done. As a matter of fact, the only specific
item in it is the creation of the benefits board which provides for four
employees, and five citizens appointed by the Commission who are not employees,
who will serve without compensation. Where were we last week when
seventy-five percent of the registered voters in Dade County didn't come to
the polls. That's how interested the public is in our government. And we're
going to get five people who have no interest in this, no interest at all,
to serve without compensation, and they're supposed to come to these
board meetings, attend them, do their homework on their own time, and be
responsible. They're not going to know what's going on. Historically,
we've all known that the creation of boards where people simply serve
voluntarily only works it those people have an interest in the decisions
of that board. And if they are simply citizens who have no interest, as this
so creates, who will they rely on? You're the fiduciary's, are they going
to come back to you each time they're to vote and say, "how shall I vote
this time?" After all, you're the fiduciaries, they aren't. And at the
same time, should they turn to the employee representatives and ask, "how
shall we vote?" Or shall they turn to City ;Management and ask, "how shall
we vote?" It's not a wise system, it's not prudent to set up a board
that way. It doesn't work and we all know it doesn't work. And that's
a breach of trust. You see, this is a very different kind of tru:;::. It's
a trust in which there are three contributors. There are ear marked taxes,
employees contribute, and in the event that those two plus their yield is
not enough for annual pay out, then from ,general revenue. Thee is a
very serious question as to whether you can change a trust without: the
consent of the benficiar.ies where the beneficiaries contribute the money
to the trust. We're talking about the employees. There's a very serious
question of taking on the responsibility of representing the City as the
City Commission, and at the :.lame time as acting as trustees and ficjuc:iarics
of trust, what if thc.-e's a dispute between them? How will you
argue with yoursc:les? If thuru's such a dispute as to bring rise to a
law suit, how will you sue your.•sulves? You ccui't. And that's why wo got
b,ick to the beginning, why nobody else has ever done this before. 1wcau5u
it's too dangerous. Now we can strip away all the legalism:, �tll the
lawyer talk, tht. really .important thing is how does this work i:i
What's the reality of this? You're saying to your employees when t.hay Came
to work, you have to give us some: of your money if you're goincl to work for
us, and we hold it for a while. And at a later time, we'll crivu it back
to you and some more. But in the meantime, under this ordinance, we have;
the unlimited ability to do whatever we want with that money and tr4oro's
nothing you can say about it. That's what this ordinance says. To coin
a phrase, "that's incredible" because: that's not business like, nobody would
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Z,ir. sicking (continued) : do it, and t;1at' 3 w*.ny -hu .Law doesn't allow it
and won't permit it. It's one thing to talk about. WI.at'Ei wise and what's
dangerous, all having to do with the law of ::rusts. T;:are r:; ano7;her
consideration here, and that is the entire field oL labor relat.tons. The
present system is pursuant to contract, solell6-1 promise by the city. ii
you were to pass rids ordinance now, you would be sayinc,, to the, entire
world, "our promise doesn't mean anything, our word doesn't mean anything."
When it seems convenient to us, we breach our contract, our word isn't any
good. There are moral responsibilities here as well as legal ones. And
as a practical one, which is just wisdom. You see, this system which is
created here in this proposal, we all know how the money comes in and we
all know how it goes out, but this doesn't say anything about how you
'not massage it but twitch it while it's in the middle. And it's that
twitching which provides the opportunity to do this, to do what I'm doing
now, to reach into the pockets. And that's what all the pension reform
acts are about, and unless you can say that you would even consider something
which has control, which has wisdom and not temptation in it, then this is
a bad idea and that's why nobody's ever done it before. Okay?
Mayor Ferro: Counsellor, are you a litigating lawyer?
,Y.r. Plummer: A what?
Mayor Ferre: You know, one of those guys that...
ir. Sicking: Goes to court?
Mayor Ferre: Yeah a court lawyer.
,Ir. sicking: You could say that.
Mayor Ferro: I wouldn't have: guessed that. But I want to tell you
something counsellor, with all due respects. We're not judges and you know,
we're elected officials and I think the approach here is, I don't think
you're litigating here, are you?
Mr, sicking: Well let me say this...
Mayor Ferro; Or are you preparing, you're preparing the groundwork for it,
is that it?
Mr. sicking? No, sir. 'Let me say this. It's very important in the law
of trusts, I would say, at least if we know that you know what the
responsibility is. I wanted you to think about that. And as far as the
practicalities or it, that's why I left the re;;t of the argument to
Mr. Teems, who you see is standing beside me and is next. Okay?
Mayor Ferre; tic's a good lawyer, I know that. And I don't say that
sarcastically either.
Mr. Don Teems: No, sir. I know that and the feeling is mutual. Don Teems,
President of the Miami Association of Fire Fighters. What I'u like to
do, you know, you can talk about the legalities back and forth and up and
down, you know. I'm not an attorney. I haven't ever, been to !a%/ school
for a day. but the bottom line as far as the employees are concerned, okay,
1974, or prior to 1974, we had commitces put together to look into the
pension trust and see just how solvent it was. It scared the he!! out of
us, Mayor. It scared the hell out of us because we were told before then,
you know, Wendall Bailiey's and those kind of people, that we had the
most actuarially sound pension in the country. No problems whatsoever, and
we round out that that wasn't so, At the table in 1974, we laid pension
on the table, and we negotiated with the City the present pension structure.
wa negotiated absolutely the ordinances that we're talking about today.
Thy ordinances in effect right now were negotiated at 'that table. They
came out of the negotiations. Those ordinances came out 09.,.the negotiations
of 1974. 1976, we incorporated that ordinance into our prevailing benefits
clau6u of our contract. We also had a reopener in the contract to talk
about pensions in the off year. At that time, the state law changed and
say, hey, pensions are no longer a mandatory subject of bargaining, they arc
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Mr. Teems (continuc!d): a permissive subject of bargai;l ng, (j;{ay? so
we opted, well, the City said they didn't want to talk about pensions
that year because: they had the right to do that, and wu ac;roe. They did,
the law changed. The last time we were at the table was 3.978. We carried
over that prevailing benefits clause exactly like it said in 1976. We also
laid pension on the table. We wanted to talk about it. We understand
there's problErns and if there is anyway we can work thc::n out there's only
one way to do that and that's to talk. We wanted to do that. Tlie City
opted not to calk about pensions, but what they did do, and they always
have done since: 1974, and I'd like to read it to you. Under the prevailing
benefits which incorporates our ordinances for our pension , 5.2,
it says; "this agreemQnts shall not be construed to deprive any employee
-of benefits or protection granted by the laws of the State of ^lorida,
ordinances of the City of Mianti", that's pension, "or resolutions of the
City of Mi.ani in efLect at the time of the execution of this agreement,"
Now that's the last agreement we have with the City, 1978. 'What's pension.
Now for you to unilaterally change that benefit, that ordinance .is a
violation of our contract. I submit that to you, okay? I think it's an
unfair labor pracii.ce and all hinds of thincjs, but like YOU I'm lJot:
an attorney. Over and above that, you know under the past administration,
and I say past, hopefully past, under the past administration we've: had
tremendous labor relations problems. I thin}: you know it, 1 know it. You
know we've got moral problems that are: unDeliuvable, Weli to us, the
tire fighters anyway, negotiations are negotiations in good faith. Now
I'm z-,ot about to cjo out and say, hu,', we've got a no Stri::i clause in our
contract but we're not going to abide by that. I'm not about to do that
because we agreed, aust like you agreed, I'm not about to say, City
we agreed for a :;ix percent l:ay raise in October and we're losing ten percent
a year to inflation. We icjr;ed. We're going to accept that. Next Limo
at the table we'll talk about it again. But right now we've got an
agreement. Now wu'rr, going to live up to that agreement, and if you don't
over and Above the:: City administration, you are the Commission, you are the
pQoplu that ratified this, not the adrninistrat:ion. If you unilaterally
change those 'nunefit:;, taun what you're saying to me and every ot:hur
::nployue Ln thu City o miami is my word isn't any good. raven it it's
in writing. That's vir,at you're saying. Thank you, Mr. Mayor,
Mayor F'erre: All right, counsellor, would you like to respond from a
legal paint o: view?
Mr. Sparber: 'Or, Mayor., I would choose this not to be in thu form of a
ra:;ponsc becaase I don't know that my function here is to debate this
on behalf of anyone. My function is more just to give counselling and
guidances as to what my understanding is of the law, and of the inturest
c the various parties who are involved in :his, So I prefer not being
caturgorized as an acvocatu of any particular position.
b:uyor Terre: Please,
bar. Sparbur: :in any event, there have been a few comments ;Made which
I feel c]4servv :some amplification or perhe,po clarification. Mr, Klausner
r„idu soma reference to some proix'scd a"ederal 1O.gislatian, the so c.;'-led
,1_1 ISA, which at some point in the future probably will be-assed. T;;.`.s
i;; legi:;lation which has been proposed i,i or:v form or anotnar going on
three years now and has yet to pays. but I don't see this meaning that
it won't, T t;:ini•; it will,:,t some ,point, In any event, -.here is nct}ling
tl,ut wu Y,avu a,waruna:'s of In teals Proposed legislation which does whc,t
btr. Klausner seemud to imply it would do in terms of fiduciary ru:>>unslhiiity.
All Fudurol r.uciulation with respect: to .invostments utilize what's ca:'_cd
the prudent man rule. it is my understanding, and my opinion, that the
ordinance as clraftod, and the exi: ring ...modifies sli,lhtly the existing
ordinance in that is simply eliminates certain restriction:; which area
formal r.ustrir'tzons o:, parce;ltages of investments in certain areas, and
does rely totally on what has been commonly been accented in all circles
as the reasonable standard for fund management, and that is the prudent
mun rule. Now there is a lmre severe prudent man rule which is:Dw being
imposud under Federal law than the classic common law prudent roar, rule,
But nanetheles,s, it is my opinion that this ordinance in its present form
would comply with that rule. And it is in no way a departure, in fact,
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Mr. Sparber (continued): it could be COnSI ri "'1' "t, coirGCtioi-, lvhich is
more consistent with what we anticiiatc -will hL roquirod once the sa
called PERISA is adopted. The ... some other cocintrnts by 'Mr. Sic;•in, I think
deserve a little more attention also. He seuMs tc iMPly that you gentlemen,
by designating yourselves as trustees are doing to be 1iacing yourselves
in a position that you're not re;;lly in now. And don't subscriuo to that _
at all. It's true that today, since you arc: not forMally the trustces,
you don't make the day to day decision on whether you Should buy one
hundred shares of AT&T or one hundred sha::cs Of IBM, howover, you do have
under State law, the fiduciary responsibility to see to it hat t;,ese funds
are managed properly. And you have retained, through City Ordinance, the
authority to alter and amend the retirement Plan and R;tirtr;,ent Syste'n, and
have retained the authority to change the trustees. Now, in my opinion,
the retention of this authority in and o:: itself, casts total responsibility
upon you as a Commission for the functioning of the trustees in a
managerial and investment nature, Now this doesn't meat, that you are
automatically responsible if a trustee coriraits a tort of sorite :fort, but
you do have the obligation to be prudent in your review, to Ce carrel:t in
your rc-views, and to be totally satisfied at all tir;+e that zhe no,inal
trustee, if it's one other than you, is performing in a Prudent fashion.
So you do have very, very severe and extrerne fiduciary responsibilities now.
Indeed Section 112.60 of the Florida Statutes does specifically stag;
that the sponsor which is the City of Miami, which in turn is the
Com;r.ission is named... is a fiduciary. And this .is ,oily to 1:, carried
through in Y'ERISA also. There's no question about that. 6o I'm not rualiy
debating with Mr. Sicking about it, I'm trying to clarify the fact that
you have grave responsibilities now evwn though you aren't the nominal
trustees. I'd like to make one additional continent at this time, and this
relates to existing union contracts. I do not prOport to bu a labor
le,,•yt.:r. I know absolutely nothing about labor law, however, I did prvaai.
an opinion Which was submitted to j+;T. Grassiu under the datt of ;dUYch
5, 1960, with respect., addressing the question of Whether or no-: z',0
Commission had the authority to adopt ordinances in the form bunt
presented to you today. And it was my opinion, and is now, that the City
does have the authority to adopt these ordinances.
,:aycr Fore: You mean without breaching any contract?
Mr. Sparber: Weill there was one area of question which I had in that
r;:spect, and that was whether Or not there: Were an;% existing contracts,
Particularly labor contracts which would preclude the City .iron•,
exercising its authority in this fashion. And I did receive an o?.i.nion
from :Mr. Peter Hurken of the firm or Seyfarth, Shaw, Fairweather and
Geraldson, to the effect that this particular action would :,ot be cl
breach by the City of any outstanding contractual agreuxun ;.s,. I personally
have expressed no opinion on that point. ;,line Is in reliance upon t:-,e
opinion of Mr. Hurken. I'vtr no further comments right now.
,`Mayor Terre; Well now I have a question of our City , tto,_noy. Ar,d that is,
,you've heard the statements back and forth, do you concur with Mr. Spa;^ber
who was retained by the City on his conclusions that thin does not violate
any Federal, State laws or the contractual agreement that the City has
with various unions?
Mr. Knox. Mr. Mayor, we have reviewed these ordinances cor.Siaarirn; the
cl iustion of their compl..4;lce With thw State law, Vod,:raj. 14%W, aliCl Wt: found
no auviation from tale ruqu.iromontn Of the law, eit;,ar with »'uu act tG the
question rela,.ud to thQ trust aspects, with the questions YulLjtc,. to
adherence to Chapter 112 or the laws of the State of rloriaa,
resi-,vct to the Cuest4on of whether or not the adoption n, L'.liC5t: orQi_,;,rcl i
would constitute a breach of any collective bargaining-igtueraont. And
I would note for the record, essentially that it is axiomatic in municipal
law that cnt- terms that a legislative bony raay not be ;rrQcluded tror,,i
exurci.;ing its legis ative power by the turms and conditions of any
colluctivt_ bargaining agroment. And thu teinnc 0` :hose agreements must
bo read in light of the power that the kl:Jocted body has to adopt legislation.
Mayor Ferro: So wu l re back to V.narCt we've: always b:'.-.=, i;xactly
What is a fiduciary responsibility and what is 'C1,40 lclgi!: lative ,.,OwQz of
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Mayor F'erre (continued): this legislative body. And let me just make
my little statement and then go on and see who else wants to make a
statement and see what the will of the Commission is. The history of
this is really rather simple. The previous- system didn't work and we got
very concerned, with good reason, that it didn't work. There were some
banks that were involved that weren't doing a very good job and our return
was not so good, and I think everybody got upset. The employees did,
the unions did, the Commission did, everybody on the Commission. So we
passed a law in 1974 which changed all this. There wuru three of us
that were present when we changed, when we voted for that. Two are no
longer here. Of the: three: that are here, we all voted ::or the change. It
,was a unanimous vote. We said, gentlemen, it doesn't work, lets go to a new
system. And we tried the new system. I want to tell you that in my
personal opinion, the system is no better than the old system. Now,
what we did was, we throw out the dishes with the dirty water. But the
point is that State law and the Constitution fortunately, does not permit
us to do that because State law says, City of Miami Commission, you can't
do that. You can't ti;row out th,a dishes with the: dirty water because
you cannot 'Pass the fiduciary r,sponsibility on to anybody else. We are
the fiduciary anyway. No matter now you slice it, no matter who'so doing
what, no matter what decisions are being mode for us in our name, the law
says that they are doing it in our namo. So theruforu, we are the
responsibile parties; and there is no avoiding it. There'.,; only one way,
them: is only one way that you can avoid that responsibility, abdicate.
It's the same thing that happens in other goverrnmorits. You can abdicate.
If you want to rebign, you can abdicate your scat on this Commission, and
by abdicating, you no longer have a responsibility. But as long az you
sit in one of these: five: sc;dts here, no matter who you let make that
ducisior, for you, it is your responsibility, it is your obligation. Arid
the question of whu'su wis(., and whose prudent, and whose broaching
trust eventually reverts back here. Because when it's all done: and over
with, after everybody has but:n sued and counter -sued, the buck stops
right. here-. And so, we're back to whurce we were in 1974. The system
doesn't work, the bener:its are impaired, there is concern about
contradictions of responsibilities. Well, lots; talk about that for a
mimont. Responsibility to whom? Now, my primary responsibility is to
thu people Who put Mo in this se.at where I'm sitting right now. 'PhatIs
who my respo nsi.bi;ity iu tu. That does not mean that I am not responsible
to the black cannunity, or the Latin community, or to women or to senior
citizens, or to condominium dwellers, that doesn't mean that I am not
r•t:spon.;ic- to the community of Wynwood, or Little Havana, or Coconut Grove,
or the employees or any other group that impact and affect. Now the
employQQs are affuctcd parties. There is no question that the c:niployees
arc these that are affected. But you se•u, the, money that uoe.,i into these
pension:: is not paid for solely by thu u:nployues becatts, rf it were paid
by the omployucs, then we wouldn't have any fiduciary responsibility. Thu
money CQ,iies from the tax payers of the people of Mituni, and t'huroforc:, they
are affected because they are putting up the: bucks to do it. And since
they can't come here and speak for themselves under this republica
democracy they elect us to make that decision, and we cannot Ubdicatu that
resporizibility without getting off of this Commission. And thorutore,
we nave to recognize that there: is really no contridiction of responsibilities
because State law and the English conunor, law establishes what thu
resperi:;ibility of a legislative body, such as this one is. Now, with
rugartis to personal liability. The truth of the matter i;;, that J. we
c.xnn-)c abdicate our rusjr_,,nsibi.lity, then obviously we're liable, Wu l re
liable right now. The existing board is liable. They buy bonds. They're
bonded out. Tho same bonds that are going to be applicable to them is
going to be applica::lu to whoever is sitting in that trust capacity. So
the use of fear as a tactic to say, well, you know, you'd better be careful
because if you're not prudent and you're not wise:, that's going to be a
breach of. trust. That onus is upon us right now and I might say, I've
buun challenged on it. I was challenged on it last November, as a matter
of tact, was; the l:c:;t. time I was, c;hallengud on that very same_ issue. Now
with r,gards to what we did in .197t, What wt did in 1974 was we went from
one extreme of the pendulUm to the: other extreme of the pundulun; Arid as
wrong as that extramu was in 73 that we corrected in 74, we though we were
::orrecting, we wart too far. And what I hope we're doing here is coming
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Mayor Ferre (continued): back to the is, loon,
you're going to be responsible, they're going to be resr,\;nsible, and we're
going to be responslb1c, and wulro jointly qo0` q to GU thli's In a way that,
hopefully, will be better balancu&. And 1-cn.Lnk thin, I would hop-, that
even though the system might ChanyF_', that the er,ployc:: have the Game
faith in the: Commission that it has always ha6. And that wu go back to
the system, modified, that we had prior to 1974, 1 never forgot that
everytime, on a totally unrelated mattur, rion, when 1 go to Puerto Rico
and we talk about the -future of vujrto Rico as a state and tney say, well
but Puerto Rico and thy: people of Puerto 'Rico and the people, o:- thu united
States. No, no, no, The people of Puerto Rico ana the Congress of the
United States, Now that's different-. ThQ Congress of the United States
,is the legislative body of the nation. t r,"t Congress; gives Congress
car, take away. Now, the: Congrus_; of til.is City it culled t,,% City of mie.mi.
Commission. And the Congress can tR,tiG away what it gives bE�cause it has
the fiduciary responsibility. 1,nd 1 tit;.nk that's -just a sta4:emunt of law
and a statement that is as important to the welfaru of the United States
of America, as the ... it'f, the foundi;;, rock. And that iLi that we: have
a iegis':ative :Oi"2i, of government whenQ body ,t': i tt:e
policy and doe.; not, and does not shirr: it:G responsibility and does not
abdicate when it duiugates. The Congrl su :.)-f t'. e ACC sta,l, if can
dol.ociate, it cannot abdicate, The City COr,,mi,;Sion oZ the: City of X,1c,mi
CCir, deli:giit6:, it cannot abdicate while it: ijoLlv,s or, tC,i:uu, wfiLlu :L'..
'c j,c_se suats . And so, 1 WOU16 noj7C that wu COUL6, rlUVe a lei:.'j . xf
ttleru i,rC CGn3 i'liCt1V4 c,r,angus that you 11'ticjh,*. want "Co rui;O)xxiond now
and tiff: t:wQnty-'liftYf if this thing should Lass at th::., timu, 1 thin:. wu
s}iol,ld ,TDVC3 along with that. I t;l'.nk ovu•r tho flint Lvu Or :;ix years,
I have ho: ird ':.iml? and ti.,710 again all over 'this City, wi1L:n aru you guy,,,
goin - to flnall y put it *ha, 1c: or, till'.; pension i.1cr s gnat you havo in fife
City of And I'll tell you that the first plac:u to start: is to
r,:cnupurate %:hat wc! lost, and that is a direct responsibility for the
recirQmunt. rysto",A,.
Mr. Plurxiur: Yr. sparbur, can 1 incuiru of you, .fir, foie a while:? :i --- ve
,!ou, tr,r. sparber, under the contract which you presently hav;: with tilt:
City su;;,mitted any report?
r. Sparber: Any 'rwport? Yes. We, as 1 stated oar'lier, submitted a
rel�ort to Mr. our opinion, on the authority of the
l ity to d.dott 'ihi; slib]@Ct Ordinances, Or i;}le aUb$tCUXU Of the SU*03QCt
ordinances,
Mr. rlummor: 0o you know what that the date of that rc1»rt is?
Mr. pal:ber: March 5, 1980.
Mr. Plummer: .fr. spari:,tr, in your review, wh•::to\'Qr you
want to call it, did you havo any opportunity to analyze tika past five
years of the pension?
Mr. Sparber; Woll when you say analyzti, can you j.la;cf 'i';1a4 you're
referring to:'
Mr. Plummer: Y(: }, :%ir, Arialy'za .—on of the results, tnc. p err".or,.tinca, yes, sil',
Mr. S; arber: No, thatt war,n't a function that 1 was cztl*, ;d ,on t,i pe-,'fo:^m.
`Phu function whi -ch I wi -.; called upon to parf'o.71 was purely one of .a legal
art.:tlysis, not invc::;tm0nt analysis, performance of any sort.
Mr. P1.ummer: So then you have no idea whether nor not the fund has a, -)no
well, good, bad, or otherwise,
Mr. S;�arber: No, that really is totally irrelevant to what 1 was called
upon, to do.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir. Are: you a\�'uru, in you:^ analysis of who ha,l
thu rusponsibility any: has always had tht responsibility for the final word
as it rulates to bogie fit;;?
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Mr. Sparber: The final responsibility would always rest with the
Commission. .
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. In other words, then you're aware that any
benefits, and the benefits primarily are the things that have caused the
problem, that any benefits were not granted by the: board in thu pair.
five years, but granted by this Commission. Presently, whatever, however
it was constitued.
Mr. Sparber: With only one caveat, and that is thin benefits once granted
and accrued cannot be removed. but that isn't relative to this, in
,my opinion.
Mr. Plummer: Well it is relevant to the point or who granted those benefits.
Mr. Sparber: Well the benefits ate granted, unquestionably, 'ay the City
of Miami.
Mr. Plummer; That is correct.
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Mr. Sparber: And the City of Miami rutainud the right, with the...
Mr. Plummer: Well not by the City, sir, by the Commission.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir..
Mr. Sparber: ...on behalf of the City, The Florida st,jtutes on an on -going "
basis, however, do restrict the adoption of any legislation which would
cleaprive participants :)f any vested benefit;;, and we anticipate that the
Federal legislation would be likewise. But once again, that i;,n't relative
to what we're directly talking about here. It's only a clarification o:,
an expross.ion of one limitation which would be placed upon the: Commission.
�.r. Plununer: Arc you aware, sir, who has made the final decision for the
past six years as to the dollar avrount of how much the pension fund would
receive in City benefits?
Mr. Sparber: I would only be speculating on that. I have: a general
understanciing of the procedure but I don't really, for thu dotennination,
but 1 don't know who reviews it and makes the final decison.
Mr. Plummer: it's here, sir, with this City Commission. This City
Commission, makes the actual authorization, or aplropriation.
Mr, Sparber: Well that's true. :it would make the appropriation. Yus.
I thought the question was who determines the amount that's certified to
thu City.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir. That':; my next. cluut;tion. Are you aware
who does that bacX,-.jround work and m<akos that daturmination?
Mr. Sparber: Again, I would only be cxpro:.s.tng general opinions and not
something i would want relied upon as authority because that's not what
I was called upon to uo. but if you choose, I'll be pleased to answer
Ow question. It-.', my understanding there is an actuarial firm which
makes the deLermi.n,ation and ruyOr.ts eo the board, which in tu.:•, re.x)rts
to the city as to the amount and then, I would assume an appropriation
resolution would be adopted by the Commission.
Mr, Plu=er.: Are you in any way familiar with the Mayor's commento that
continually refer to the law zuit? Are you familiar with the law suit
at all?
Mr. Sparber: Generally, yes. There are two law suits,
Mr. Plummer: The basic, the biggie.
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Mr. Sparber: Which is the biggie:.
Mr, pluz a:r: The biggie. ThQ.. I*iicirtcui, mi'AL!;.or, i cl1: r iUw Suit.. '
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Mr, sparber: This is the: Gages suit or thQ...
Mr. pluritmer: 'rile Gates, yes, E;ir. Are. you fzimiliar wi-,:h thug'
Mr, sparber: Generally.
,'fir. p1tummer: Are you faf.:iiiur 441tf: thU ZL.e%t t:.ut w,i; to
the board and the board 'tul%lud 1'C. 60wn 1
D;r, Sparber: No, sir.
Mr. plunder: , It was.
Sparber: Again, not relevant to what 1 was charred to do.
:fir. plumlllvr: if What you're Sayin(; relevancy to wiaat ;ci-Lnt, tht: point
is that thdt law suit comes from a time, not of the prtsunt: board, iz
come, from a time, sir, prior to this board When we found :;uch thing:
happening to this Commission who was the trustee's of a b,.nk hAndlinq
seventy to eighty nl:illion dollars of our money, who didn't: evLi, hav(: one
person In the bank on a full time basis to handle this;-iccount. Wnu-',
other funds were receiving ten and eleven percent interest, in dealinc;
with that bank which this Commission approved, excuse mu, then prosont
sealed Co:rnission, wao drawing four percent. You See, I h�A pj'i(Jn to
that the ponsion cries out for revamping but wo l., e not spc iking in
ordina'ncuz to the problum, in my estimation. I think perfoi- ance:, 1 have
a sign in my office, that says, and so tru(3, lltlh%: only way to rtlCasu'_u
ability is in results." 1 think, maybe I'm blowing my o4,71
I sat as Chairman for almost five years of one of those board, that 1
was proud to sit with the adrtinistrative oide and the omploycu :;id(;, who
in my estimation did a very fine job. And I think their )(.rforrrancw
when stacked up against others Was one of the: best. 1 dun'':: i e c t.nat the
problems of the pension fund are being addressed. All I see iS r.(;vamping
and going back to a system that didn't work before. And I don't onvision,
and I understand your position, sir, I don't envision how it's going to
change in 'che future:. find I'll close by telling you that I was
with onQ ot'hcr rtumbcr of the Commission, to sit down and try to come up
With so -Mu realistic proposals that would take and help the ponsion
and to report back to this Commission. It's part of the record, sir. Wr:
came back with thirteen proposals which we: felt would help t'ne pension
fund tremendously. Unfortunately, not t:,e: board, this Commissio,, then
seated and eonsti':,uted, only adopted five of the tnirtei:n recor„mendations.
I fail. to see how at this time it's going to be any different. 1 think
what this Commission should ba charge:d with it:; responsibility .;na do
more than anything is addruz4 the problom6, and 1 don't see them being
addressed in this ordinance.
Mr. Sparber: M.S. Commi:isionur, I'd likt. to make one adaitional. --Gmr1u-nr-
with rospect to thi:;. AS I stated before to v,4yor erYC , I do not
to be an actvoc�%mo of any position. I've been called upon purely as a
consultant to pur orm certain functions in a legal capaC;..y and t" Vxpross
a lawyor, Which .1 :Lit, fity opinion on the: capacitie � of this Citv
Lorlij.).ssion to pe rLc:li:; cortilin, to engage in certain act.ivitl(;:; and adopt
cL..rtain orAin4:ncU ;. I do do, the: primary reason perhaps, tha'c : Wa3
TQt:Iinud wa:: bu( auto I ao a grt:at deal Of pension Work in Cjt.,-feral ".e1
Cie) haave " L;i(jn-ificant cc-g e'•:e: Of t]xperi( nce in tho e: other i:ruas t:.at: you
are in junural rufe:rrin.l to. HOWova: , We have yet 'co be, our firm yet
to br; called Upon in vrdur of priority 'moo act a_, a On u:-L'I le'lti.
TC`up4ct t0 flit: other areas you re mentioning, Wj;lc:. are pr_:narl.ly Co5'C
and vunuj'.-it area-, And these art; ar.e:as Wilicil do C1t;.:,,t-rvL ior:,e attention.
1'i1GTu' :; no quosCion. As to visn :thor or not lilt ad c)::cl nallia;: :1G Or d0 not
accC)Mn1io-,h anything buland wha',: t.luy ,L4vt be(:;; star.ua to accorjr - 1.,
would express no opinion.
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M.Y. Plummer: Mr. Sparber, let me as *. yol, tha, fc,u i',uvc brought that
up and I think that opens a new field because it was my understanding
you were hired for another reason. Who gave: you your direction as to
wheat you shall do?
,`9r. Sparber: I was given direction through twu offices. The City
Manager's office and the Mayor's Office:,
Mr. Plummer: And the Mayor's Office?
'savor Ferre: What was that again?
-Air. Sparber; I said I was given direction through two, well actually
thr,:e areas. The City Attorney's Office, the City Manager's Office
primarily, and the: Mayor's Office.
Mayor Forre: What was that about the Mayor's Office that you did?
Mr. Sparber: Well repeat the question so we'll be sure we have it
correct.
Mi:. Plu,�er: Almost trapped him, didn't I. The question is, sir, since
it is my understanding that you were hired under a different pretense
that what you are purporting here today, from who did you receive your
direction for your final product as it's presented.
Mayor Ferro: You didn't receive any direction from my office.
tdr. Plummer: Well he stated...
Mr. Sparber: No, not direction. Lets back up from the very beginning
and clarify...
Mayor Ferro: Wait, wait because I don't like the implications of this.
Have you and I ever met before? Not in conjunction with this in any way,
no.
Mayor Torre: And the only ... I've talked to you, on the record now, you
correct me if I'm wrong, one time since you've been retained by the
City of Miam- Commission and I called you.
Mr. Sparber; That's correct.
,Mayor Terre: And you can relate the purpose of my ... what our convursat•ion
was which basically, as I recall was, when are you going to finish your
report? is that...
Nlr. Sparber; Well there was a question relating to exactly the type of
format which we were developing and the status, that's correct. I'd
1:ko a clarification...
Mayor f'nrre: Now wait a minute. Have we had any written corro,pvrdence,
any telegrams, any messages back and forth of any kind?
Mr, Sparber: None, none.
taavor Purre: okay, I jt,,:,t... because I want to gat that cleared up real
quick.
Mr. Plummer; Let me, lut me, and I don't mean to harp on this and I'm
not trying to infer anything, but when I say the sense of direction, what
did you mean by the sense of direction?
Mr. Sparber: Perhaps we should, we should start from the beginning, and
have you, if you would, axplain to me what you understood to be the purpose
for which, the purpose For which we were retained.
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Mr. Plumy„er: Very simply, sir, and I'ra going to pull the recoras because
1 think I have a pretty good memory, it was my understanding that your
firin was hired, Sir, to look into thc: pension, resL,.-aruh It and Conte back
with .reco;mmendatlonsi whirr, you fol,: would be benctliciai. and were: neoie!d.
Now that's not whit : 'T;1 f2'C) , you. What I'1T1 understanding
froln you is that you don't necessarily concurr that this which is
presented, you draftud this and you did it as a legal talent having no
knowledge a'aout pension, or pension as it relates to the City Of .Mia,11.i,
through the question:: that I've just, gone throug;, with you.
:ir. Sparber: Correct.
Mr. k luinmer: All. riUtlt, SiL. &NUw, this is a ear cry from w;iat 1 Understood
that you wur'(,, bcinq nirud for. And thu record, of course, will rUilect that
you were hired, I think the record will reflect, and the Clcrk 1 hope, will
be listening so he can furnish rile: Conius, that your fir.n was to do research
on the pension to try and find what was thy:: problems, identify them...
Mayor C e.: r e; That's riot what I understood.
Mr. :'llinri,tli': Well, and also, Okay. Hc'y, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong any; 1
starn:l cozructed. That was ray understanding. That's not wrong nd that':;
!'Ir, Qt a 10is to u:idorstand that you h.ivu not done-, th:s r%;tdrCfi,
yo-,l have nor done a perfUrmanca analyssi3. C'L'o, what rile unci:rBLanae .ng
cou:.rl* :u y o,;-zily be the Cascu, that tnis pe:n:.Ilon Jjoara a;.; ccn:;tltuted,
cUu.d llavc the Uus-c pc.rlorniance in the world but you didn't t-akc -,"-,at into
cons:�d,.ra'zion you ju it took the ordinance.. .
i6 JOY Fur.re. That's nGt his job, he's a laVP2Qr. His `Ob was to look a'-
t1-lu law and 110 zind OL1t What We COul,; c10 to i.nally, back again to Wnui'l:
4'u tJ _'C in 74, c;Ct d handle on this thinij which is certainly colrplct'ely
o:: our 1)I-inds yet wz'rt still responsible. That was his task. as I
u.ice� �'tooa :it.
Cr,:ct. We well cailt.d ups l to be C l Urt:3U c.uilt:i lr,
>c•::::1:):1 a:.,.:i ZO a ;;;yJ..... c:Ut!:itlor:o wn1C;h wLr(: put to Us. We wurc never
r,;,araud with the res-pK, n ibility of an analysis of performance.. .
Mayor rerrk�: Thuy'ru lawyers.
:`ir. u�Lii _': ....and to mil}:e: recoramendations Lis to wi',ether the actuarial
iss ;ui, )t i'J:,:; t;hould be, changed or benefit performance Should be: Changed
Or a;*,yt;iing lift; that.
Mr. Pluz aor. No :: aUdn't expect that at all, Sir.
;x. SparbQr: Wo. 'n'%ire c:dlled upon to bt:- consul -cants in a 7:oas for, which w!
were culled ul..or, to opine, which we did do.
.:r. pl,-xvcr: A.1 right, sir. The ccf.lr;cts, the: record 1s there zlnd w;iat
was said at the: '.:i.me :.'ill doing to ruviuw.
(•:cc�J Ft--Xrc;: 1i thcrl:! iulrzhu'r Or zul'thur auo!S%Jo.%i?
Al! righL., thoru are no further gac:stions. What is the will of this
do 'loll '.'.ant to :icily somethincg? Real brlcf like':.
:iCuve XIni.ck ~rent Scinitatl0A- Real brie:. yus't
j)r':. Jr• to Lily board the minorities didn't have a chance as rar
m.lyor Purre! ok"y. All right, now, are therC further uv:;tiU:n;; of Mr. Spazber
ur furtilur c,aubt.iol1:; c,: the administration? W,-a, :...i t:ha will Of th1S
Ca rilm a.L,a OI:.
!oi' mi 1Tw�:2';; or thU COIIIf l:; i ton. � ;�a
,;. sition on this is
:1+::Lind :at trl1;, ji-:Yt:.C:Ll1:3Y' viz-1 re:'+ �
t r�.::,ents an
Lnv%:Stme nt: U ci"bk L'u +� 'nt Or, tGC QUi
ort, cam: ar of the a . valorem tares
that the C.Lt: «:C9r+:;, to::i]dVLY:i Of the Clty of Mi"ll pay CO the Cll'.y. Forty
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Mr. Lacasa (continued) : percent of the mair, .sou;.,:Q- of ;�i:ve u,, of r.hc
City of Miami gets into the pension fund. At tnt-i �u^, tl1i, , the I)(?n;;,lon
fund represents the security of those who have dudicat,c& to ,he City,
their services for "X" nulvtber Of years, and many for -)radically all of
their working life. Therefore, 1 cannot &,ink oZ any issue more
important to this City Commission than the pension funs: on ti;ose twG
accounts. One, on the welfare fo'.r the economic stabilit7 anu future
of the employees and retirees of the City of Miami and zhcir fumiiie:s;
and secondly, for what it is the main s,.:cj.,ent of the tax doilars of the
tax payers of the City. Therefore, I th—1 nr: L'i,at till rtal>�n iib� lily
should be entirely in tht; hands of th(; City it is,
after all, the City Commission whi.c , is the one that Ls i:!-Zlctud by th,:
people of the City of Miami to represent their interest znd to
administer and be responsible for their tax dollar;i . At the: aaiiiC t i1Ti( ,
I want to make pretty clear that as 1 have Mated inany t:.:.mc,,s 1n discussing
issues concerning the pension fund, I will never go for un;; mec,sure
what so ever that will in any way-:oo-.ardize the VS: j-,:Lda icJclts of
rt tiree3 Of the City o1 Miami or of t'hc :)resent.. ur: >ii ;'t c , . h if:i:Vt r
restructuring the pension plan requires -n oraur to Kee:) 1.11inii:lCia1
health of the City of Miami` intact Will have to
a::, Concerned, with absolutu respect for those %,Qstec, :'.t;. B.,, at the
sums time, it is the City Commission, in r.•,y view, tilu o,.(, t:hctt
ultimate responsibility. And when you learn thing,
t ne fact that about three months ago here b3:•oru thL5 Ci.t.y CO;'.�,51'�:i
it was statud, that the pension furtd monies urtD only
seven percent, about seven percent return for the purisiG,h :.0 n l DY
City C)L Aiii whin the inflation rate well Qxceedi, tan
any investment that is making now under twelve purci.,t i� co,;;ic,tL:ea
very bad investment, I have sorlou:, reseMitlOi,s ak)out nOk' wall C.1"4t
pension fund and the pension plan of the City of Miami has been hanciluu
before. i'hertforo, I move that Ordinance:: nanujor 20(a) bu 3doi�t,,d a;
.resented which revests the fiduciary authority to the City Cor:z,ission
and creates a pension benefits board.
Mayor. Ferre: Is there a second to that motion?
Fathet• Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferro: All right, second. Under discussion. Is there further
discussion'., If not, read the ordinance, please.
(A: THIS POINT, 7dE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINAINCF, Y`1T0 THE pUBLIC RECORD) ,
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
N.r. . Pluir"mor: Ezcuue. me, excuse me. I'rc, sorry, hir. ,,,,ayor.
i'iaV I .j:ik
one question please, for the rucord.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Plummer: Mr. Fosmoen, to you or. to Mr. Gary, whiCf:Vut' ifd at���rJ;�rlute
sir. In Co,xazil �aioner Lacasa's making of the rlotion :jc tr. iC:C+ it
1 chink needs to be stre: sed, guaranteed as it is undo stood t:oda"'.
Ar6 that is, there, under this proposal that there would b(.: no C'nange in
benefits of vested rights.
.-. Gary: That's correct, Commissioner.
!L'. Say .it a little loudor,
`r. 0"try: That':: correct.
And lilt i.IU ;;;;y it \'ur loud' "t iuhV< <0L3 L' 1
In 4,'ritiriCj,
I don 't know wn,}!,.ilur Jack . U1.L1Vaii iS :itill •nurE , ii:lJ : is t. lilt' I�Ut ': t O;
tt'lu rejorc:. That 1 have absoluLuly no intuntiG:h .:1 rijoj1: i!nq that
j)J: _lion.
A:r. Plummer: ',',ay I a:ik, FathQr, that that's your under stand a.ng. Just a m.irYutc:...
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Mir. Plummer: I still... Father, may :i ask or, the record that that's the
way you understand it. Tiidt t;iEr< i ;, under r tfi:.;; proposal t' , tfier -
is no change in vested rights to the employees.
Father Gibson: Why sure. I wouldn't want it ochurwise.
Mr. Plununur: Okay. -1 just want it understood because, let me tell you
something. After this vote is taken, within one hour, you're going have
hit the streets something that maybe is not quite as clear as what I'm
trying to establish on the record. That there will be no, under this;
proposal, there is no inten'c to change vested rights. I can't make it
any clearer, I can't make it any louder...
,Mayor Ferre. Well it's in writing, it's in the record...
Mr. Plummer: ...and I hope that it will filter out.
Father Gibson: Well I want to make sure everybody understands. 1 don't
intend to change.
mr. illwnmer: Well Father, look, you know, uniortunat:uly
hers: many titles when they Zilter down %o t" hit .Dottor-, employUe h::vc3 bi:G;,
al ce'rud ninny ways, :and it':; misunclurstGod, and '0ili0r1'0W iOrning wE: :i ,vl�
a Mlajor calamity on our hdr.ds. I'm merely trying to makL. it as sirlpic:
ana az; clear, that thuru is nochange of vested rights. 1 can't be
any clearer.
Fati, r Gibson: J. L. , why don't you use: another word. You know, v06tc,d
rig:,ts, some people don't understand that. All you have: to do i:i :say
benefits. Acid I'll but you this most stupid man understands bini:lt,.
lie may not understand vested rights.
M"Yor Vurre: And i`UV'-hurmorU, I WOula like for t*,a.s to <;C I.n u
to every sincjl u eimployee, and I would like tor the Mand�-)ur to ,;Ig ,
and if you want, I'd be happy to have every meiber of this Coi;r�issior,
sign it. Okay?
Plummer: Okay. I just, do you understand what I'm trying to do?
Mayor FQrru; okay? You know, it couldn't be clearer than that. Okay,
call the roll.
tax. Teems. tVx . .M:ayor, , can I ray one thing?
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
vx. 'Deems: First off, I'm going to dispute that whole-huartedly', Okay?
BQcause you are taking away a benefit or a right. It's our right to
representation on that trust. That's in our collective: bargaininc,
agreement, and as far as I'm concuxnt�a, What you're telling no her•:: todav
is you vote in the affirmative for this ordinance, you're rx, that
our collective bargaining agreement is:;'t wo:.,zh a au:un. but, that works
both way:i .
Mayor Ferro: That iz not, with all duc: respocto, I Want to raaki: :;ur(!
w�• understand that that i:; not my underst„ndinq, it iS not the Ur,..i rStand121g
Of Counsel, 1, L.', not tho understanding of Our City Attorney, and
it. i s not the of this administration. Wu disagree with that
0%: ,y, :;all tho roll,
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI CITY EMPLOYEE'S
RETIREMENT SYSTEM ORDINANCE NO. 2230
(JANUARY 1, 1940) AS AMENDED AND AS APPEAR!NG IN
CODIFIED FORK AS PART OF CHI-STER 40 ENTITLED
"Personnel" OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ,MIAMI,
FLORIDA, EFFECTIVE SEPTE,MBER 1, 1980, MORE
PARTICULARLY AMENDING THE FOLL017ING PROVISIONS OF
SAID CODE: SECTION 40-206 ENTITLED "Administration"
BY REPEAL OF UNTITLED SUBSECTIONS (a) THROUGH (q)
THEREOF AND SUBSTITUTING THEREF''OR TWO NL)l SUBSECTIONS
ENTITLED "(a) Retirement Board" AND (b) "Pension
Benefits Board"; SECTION 40-207 ENTITLED "Benefits"
BY :1hLENDXLNT THERETO' SECTION 40-211 ENTITLED
"'Trustee of Funds"; BY REPEALING SECTION (A)
THEREOF ENTITLED "Generally; agreement" AND
SUBSTITUTING THEREFOR A NEW SUBSECTION (A), BY
A;•1ENDING SUBSECTION (C) THEREOF ENTITLED "Appointment
of Successor Trustee" AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFOR A
NEW SUBSECTION (C), BY ADDING A NEW UNTITLED
SUBPARAGRAPH (9) TO SUBSECTION (F) THEREOF ENTITLED
"Duties and Responsibilities of Trustee", BY AMENDING
SUBSECTION (G) THEREOF ENTITLED "Investment Authority",
SECTION 40•-217 THEREOF ENTIT%ED "Designation of
Corporate Trustee: and Acceptance Thereof" BY REPEAL
THEREOF IN ITS ENTI;".ETY; SECTION 40-218 THEREOF ENTITLED
"Agreement With Corporate Trustee" BY REPEAL THEREOF
IN ITS ENTIRETY; GENERALLY PROVIDING BY SAID A'riENDIMFNTS
rt'G SAID CHAPTER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF SAID SYSTEM
TO BE VESTED IN THE CITY COMIMISSION AND FOR THE CITY
CObii�ISSIONERS TO BE THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEE OF THE SYSTEM
TRUST FUNDS; FURTHER PROVIDING BY SAID Q%2ND1NENTS FOR TdE
DISCHARGE AND ACQUITTANCE OF PRESENT INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES
AND SYSTEM BOARD MEMBERS WHO WILL HENCEFORTH HAVE NO
rURTHER RESPONSIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR POWER TO ACT IN ANY
i1iNNiER, INDIVIDUALLY, OR ON BEHALF OF SAID SYSTEM OR
SYSTE1111 MEMBERS, AND FOR THE ELIMINATION OF LIMITATIONS
UPON INVESTMENT OF TRUST FUNDS AND RETENTION OF THE
c;:iiSTING AUTHORIZATION OF ACQUISITION AND 'ATTAINMENT OF
PROPERTIES AND INVESTMENTS WHICH IIEN OF PRUDENCE, DISCRETION
AND INTELLIGENCE ACQUIRE; AND ATTAIN FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
Was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: ,
hYES: Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodora R. Gibson
Mayor Maurice A. Terre
NOES: *Commissioner Joe Carollo
**Commissioner J. L. Plwtmer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
The City Attorney rc.d the ordinance; into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Co„uaission
and to the public.
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ON ROLL CALL:
*Mr. Carollo: I have ..-;ome very, vary .-,cling., about: thu Wc',Y
wt-_,1re proceodincf with L:his. OV_' Of _Z. YOU _.0-. ---he
o L:
shL,'jf'Z_ and the Judge at zhe sw,,L-
t
you're th(-
'U at_ 3udge. yt��Can't be looz:_
other mc:rabcrs of tne Com=dssion ba' 1 UndurL;t--ix, tl-,� ::Minn
the employee:, that have
I , cud c, of a lot -zc, zy Li And
havL - -A.
we talk ,.r, part of the contract iS �xj-'Lncj tc, 1)-;
that no benefits arc. going :0 !Dt;• C-v,;r; t"'lat
J
the of the: Firs firjhtoru �)nirjn L.
why I wantLd this itez. -%o Z5:." r:, 60w:l
-
rUzic" tno bost compromise possiblu, th,:;4,- h�.v,_, uvuryo.no working
zoz;c-thc.. 2jtL, biggest problua, tna-G llv,.. L;uur, a:; 0.1c 0 _7
thu liJards zfo: retirunent, and I t?,in'K r,:Cun%' ..L." -LI-,C:
it's not that j,11 0!: z"C cll':y of
"I.1ing for their future rcziromunt, it' ; r,,3L caLe.
amJ ere makinij aL
j?ro*,:)jem is a lot or the er,,jv).ovec.,s arc Ljoing to
i:..,uy havi.i be'_,n, with a mioerab_u rQt.Jrc,,:,tnt t'ney cannot `iv,n -iku a
loz of our retireQ's, while s0llu and no, I haven't Z*OrcjOtten
1 n C J. C', en t becclusc! 1 .1 you don, t learn from history, history it c.' f
like the fanious case of Mr. GUftdor:,on, t"nzi-t: wor'&L'0
.o.: thQ city for Three years are able to retire With is nice 0-L' monuy
11.- c IL".11s ha.i got to stop and there has to be a 11-a*:Inco foun6 :;omk:
W . nt.,re. you can't have people that have! workt�d' thrc--u f:Lvu yu,-:S
an,.. cat, rtr-i.ire with almost, if not more than employees that havi_ %,o-L':-,cd
`o-_ the City for twenty, thirty yearL5 or more. llhoreforu, 'My vo-C.L! 10 I-,o
.or zhe reason stated.
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mr. Plu=er. Very obvious, without cioing into any doe-.-) dotail, tn�;
i 6 9,:, in u d
� to pass. ,,,,y vote is in the negxc�`ve- 1: wo I hype Once
notion is pasi;iud, that this Commission would Oct ,:bout t*41c o:c .
tne prob.Lems. Com:,iission h,,ci thc... oj)-)or rn.,,ir.ity for t`.,1
yQar-, to address the probl axs. Thoy didn't. And 'L,.1'
-signed from the The real ",0Z
o:: t.-.0 :-QcAsons Lnaz I rL 1) -
i-,e.-inic, and i* would hope that now that it ls
vz)tc 'retire today is going to drop all or this back into thu cl.:
-�h� Com;nission, that t'j-.e real problems would be addrQssQd.
1,,q&yc)2: Again, today the vote, the deciding vote fal15 On -Chu
c . nair. zucaiase 1 assume, that was a no vote. $o let me just :;ay that 1'
L., and to vy friends in the various umployuc organizations, and
�-c zh(.. that the point just made by Commi6sionor that
,Z. ruturn!; to whe.,:C; it always should have been, to th: _r_'uct(;Q
of""iciells, Z'naz W-.3 will act responsibly, intcl.ligantly, and with,a sensu
oz j anCt I pledcjo once again, to those of you
,:oncernua, that w.1 are not in any -way going to twrf)Qr with L);c1r,..noc.
1ntQrUZt 017 -Cf,000 employ,:juo that urc1 abc,'xc to, ov
wu n,�;cd to get thiL to !� of lac�_c is
Cor,%missicn lc, cind _ wou_la
to iorward with tho_u ii;sucs thaz he
i4nd _,ndocd, to all mtuTbor:, of the Sc, Will
w.-Aure they :,*,lould be B-darLsicd, X- thi-
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18, FIRST READING ORDINANCE: MIA::I CITY 1::MPLOYEES RETIE:; ,',ENIT PLAN
AdninistratIOA of Sai6 Plan to be
Vested in CITY COMIISSION, ETC.
Nglll��.Hr�R,. �J^.'��•tR
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
AN Oi2DINANCF. A,":ENDING 7riZ Mlk:4I CITY GF.N-1:,RAL E:iPLOYE S'
RLTIREMFNT PLAN (ORDINANCE NO. 5624, DATED NAY 2, 1956,
AS A2,-, '1NDZD) AND AS AP: E1A}•:.-LNiG IN CODIFIED FROM AS PART
GF CHAPTER 43D ENTITLED "iJersonnul" OF THE CODE OF THE'
Cliff OF M11,N:I, FLORIDA, 'r',i'F(:C`':;.'JL SEF,-EY3E'R 1, 1960,
MOIU PAIRTICULAniJY Av:EINDING TFI:: 1OI;LOW�NG Pi;OVIS3.ON:S OF
SAID CHAPTER OF SAID CODE: SECTION 40-234 ENTITLED
"Administration" BY REPi:A.L O'r' UN:ITLF:D SUBSEC''_'IONS �a)
THROUGH (q) THEREOF AND SUBST Ti1TING THE7E 'OR 17.'10 :'.E
SU',Si",CTIONJS ENTITLED "(a) "R)tirC.rilurit Board" AND (b)
"Pern..ion Bunufits Board"; SECTION 40-235 ENTITLED
11F)enefits" BY AIM2NDMENm 5-IEPETO; SECTION 40-237 i::,-TTT'm
"`L^z:tictei of Funds".. BY REF' AL—.N7G SUBSECTION (A) Tiii:'r't;OF
ENTITLED "Genovall%;agreement" AND SUHSTITi:TINiG ^.::::i-1E1Ok
A NiEM SUBSECTION (A) , by A--ENJiNG SUBSECTION (C) TtiER::OF
E:vTITLLD "Appointment of Successor Trustee" AND
S 'BSTITUTING TI:EI EFOR A NEW SUDSEC'1'ION (C) , BY ADDS NC A
NEW UNTITLED SI:BPARAGRAPH (6) 1") SUBSECTION (F) tj1Z,rvEPOR
ENTITLED "Duties and Resnonsi.bilities of Trustee", BY
AMENDING SUBSECTION (G) yHERECF ENTITLED "Investment
Authority"; SECTION 40-243 ENTITLED "Designation o;:
Corporate Trustee and Acceptance Thereof" BY :. PEAL
THE-,REOc IN ITS ENTIRETY; GENERALLY 11MOVIDINIG BY SAID
A i NUS: rNTS 1110 SAID CHAPTER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF
SAID LJLAN TO Si: VESTED IN THE CITY CO3YUMISSION AND FOR THP
CITY TO BE THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEF OF THE PLiM'
Tr'!IST FUNDS; FU"r.THER PROVIDING by SAID AMENDMENTS FOR THE
DISC.:i:.i:Gir A,AiD ACQUITTANCE OF PR LSENT INDTVIDUAL TRUSTEES
AND ''PLAN' BOWRD MEMBERS WHO WILL HENCEFORTH HAVE NO
Fd!%TH:1:R RESPONSIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR POLDER '110 ACT IN ANY
MANNTR, INDIVIDUALLY, OR ON, BEAALV OF SAID PLAN OR PLAN
b:rXBERS; AND FOR THE ELIMINA:'ION OF LID:ITATIONS UPON
INNESTN4ENT OF TRUST FUNDS AND RETENTION OF THE E:{IS'' I,\*,G
A:THORIZATION OF ACQUISITION Al;--- i.TTAINMENT OF PROIJE:RT.IES
AND !NVESMvENTS WHICH MFN OF P!<UDZNCE, DISCRETION AND
INTELLIGENCE, ACQUI1w AND A`S 1: I[ FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PR0%,15IOiNS AND A SLVLRABILITY
CLAUSE
..a:; introduced by Commissioner Lacctsa and stcondcd by Conmis .ioner Gibson
and passed or, it: first reading by title by chcc following vote:
AYES: Vice -Mayor Armando I ac.asa
Covvr i6sioncr (Ray.) ri'heodorc! R. Gibson
MaA;or Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Coviour6ioner Joe Cavo:l.lo
Commi:;: inner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
`l'tic C1tV At:tornt'1' read thG Grdi.n�irlC:l .into the public rucorCx ur,.Z
u,r ounrud tY�at: caF.'i.0 wire available to tine murtbors of tno City Co,nmission
and to the 1)ublic.
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ACTUAP , uJj%. n. i� Ci. ^1Sl
iO4 F'�4��1)l,:u>'G.� ICY OF T&7iE C'i 11
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Mayor Fc:rre: W(:'re now back to the order...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, N,aulice. 1 thin:c :rand in hana thirty gou,-,
with that.
Mayor Terre: Does thirty go with that, J. L.?
Mr. Plummer; it's a rt:lated mutter to pension, i would assure 1�hr ,,
would want to bring that.,.
Mayor Verre: is the'ce a probler't in that?
y,2-. :'os-mc -!rl: Ybt1 Ciin bring that uj) later. It doesn't } Y tc,
tthl.s tiCli3. You can Muss it later in the Gay or if '/uU ' X"iL: to .Ac'.
on It now that's finu.
::.r. uaCa;ia: i �iu:YG any prob'ien, all right-. Bat if not, why don'::
we go ahead now. Move.
Mayor Farru: All right, Commissioner Lacasa moves item thirty.
pather Gibson: Second.
mayor Fc:rra: Second by Father Gibson. Do you havo a problov, with t;'.;at,
J. L.?
Mr. plulluner. i think it doesn't addreos the problem, Mr. Mayor.
N:r. Gary: No, that':; Just the funding...
Mr. plununer: 2nis is the tive percent rule.
irr. Nary. Yeah but w;,at this dots is, if you recall, the City Com;,ie ;ior.
a;oi�tc:d tl:a ;3. }i, :�riend report. And as a result of th':;t, tnc: City has
placed, has aporop.-iltud one. poin'c two nilison +ollars moG'e t'.ha1', the
E. H. Friend re;,.-r2:t requ.-Lres. Were rwt proposing to take that money
from the uonsion fund, But a: result or tho,c two actuc:rial re1w its
that you adoptuci, welvu got tiro oat up appropriations that roflr:cr chore
actuary reports. And we're leaving 'Gnu ono point imillior, dollars in
reserve fund. Okay?
Mr. Pium."ner: oh, :i misundurs'coou.
xr. Gary: This is Just an appropriation Clari-fication.
b:ayor ferret Do you }'.:.ve any problems, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plununer: ho, i2:av� ,lo problem.
Mayor then its barn moves and secondud. iZuad
Zhu oidinanau.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE N0. 9012
ADOPTED OCTOBEY% 31, 1979, eriICH ESTABLISHED A TRUST
AND AGENCY FUND FOR PENSION, TO REFLECT i'r[E ADOPTION
OF THE RECOM''XNDATION MADE BY THE, ACTUARYt EDWARD H.
FRIEN`u AND COMPANY, FO'r: THE PURPOSE OI' IMPLEMENTING
THE L1141TED PENSION FUNDING POLICY OF THE CITY;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AP4'D A SEVFRABILITY
CLAUSE; AP0 DISPENSING WITH THE REQUTiu'.LN"' 02 Mv'%DING
THE SAML ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS
THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION
Was introduced by Commissioner. Lacasa and seconded by Commissioner Gibson
for adoption pursuant to Section 41 Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days by a
vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Vice -Mayor Armando 'Lacasa
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Lacasa and
seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES: Vice -Mayor Armando 'Lacasa
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9153
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available: to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
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20, 10,000 I'itON, CO\T7,\uENCy
$400,000 ETr:AN'01, pj1OI)1C,' TON
i"LAN Y AS1311.1L 6PA.,\r
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Mayor Ferro: Now as l said two jjc)u-,s a, o 1 anybody if had
any time constvaint:i let n1e once again as I undurstaad somebody has
to ro back to N,-w 'ZGriC or sor:io ?JaL:O- rh1'10 Iha3S iinV...Z117C: there any
CI rC r ;t nti.iC.S ':hat need Co be tai",111 Out of order's Anybody, alright,
:state the nature of your emergency •
Mr. Dick Fusmoen: it's item fifty WO :Mr. Mayor.
Mayor rerre: Tell me.
;Ir. 'i'os loin: .s `tem fifty two.
t,I:.lyor Furre: 'h1:at'6 the nature of m:hc! elnurgency.
Mr. FosLioun: ","his gentle; ;.an 1-i,'AS a plane to catch.
NL1yor Furre: Al.ri;;:,t, tell me who you are and what plane you have to
catch for the rOCOY'd,
'Mr. J. L. Flaster: J.L. Master, a cOI%SUI;i,n: with Vnited states,
5tetel Engineers and Consulting out of :Pittsburg and our plane is at
7:30.
CO .lissi.oncX Plummer: Well the only question Mr. '11.1yor I have in
refercilcu to fifty two is where is the City going to get the money:'
The tea thousand that we have got to put up.
Mr. Fo:i"cioan; IC '..mimes out of Contingency.
CorLmis ioner Plummer: What contingency? Let me...Dick the other
question that ... real honesty. Are we doing something ...1 know that
Aiutro has been very involved with Ethanol. Are we duplicating in any
way the studies and the research that Metro is doing?
'Mr. Fosmova: No sir.
CommiLsioner. Plummier t Ok.
Mayor Vorro. fir. rosmom:n how imlportant... I is this someehing that
we really can gut a bib grant from the federal government on this?
Mr, Fosmoen: We're hoping to Mr. Mayor, and we think we can...
Con»nissioner Pluixaer: Four hundred thousand.
:r. Fos:.,00n: W hi;,i: :.0 can save substantial monies for the City if...
Mayor i orre: uic.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll move it.
Mayor Verre-, 'm.ummur mov...%itun: number fifty two alright Gibson
:.e�comlus further discussion, call the roll.
Thu Lollowl.n;, rasolutiun was introduced by Commissioner. Plununer,
w110 moved ito-� adoption:
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A RESOLUTION A!;ThOt,',1 ZING b? 'CC ,a'j jE
CONT-TN,GFNNM FUND IFOR TIRF ?UUOS!:'1 0-1,' A 'IF i.,) G-, :ANT
API'LICATION To T,iL U-S-
PRODUC'210"" PLAN',ET
X,'I'D CW,SUU1IAXT1:,
STATES STE.EL COI-JJORATIMA-'\%I'D N-D TiViN
30, 1960
Upoll be-I'll?":1 �O-conued by V,-IC rL-601UL i0f, Wa-S
pas:iQd and adopted by the follow.hi,-, vote:
AYES:
Gib Son
ctx=issionur 'piw,-umur.
M:AVOI: 'FLf-,:U
,%:" S 1.1"N J., : LCIcaba
NC,
(,rik�vanccs of ad3ud-.'cation o; C.D. 'AlllldS to VY-M-1:001j TARGE"T A!:ZA
T.'ric'n wQ I re I.i.ick to
%" rjzarie 15 Em.ilio Lopuz and ac-:Ually
I haw. "nd I ... in junul zhu. C-,*.ty of :?2.ar,l-`
thOLIA,",a1"'A c-O-L"r- S of COVMT.Ir.ity r4-'V(*..jop.TOnt or tliQ
1 �j to in vat�idc c vp ration. You dvl. t"
: c. L 0 C) - — .
-y Board. This Corr&; CZ% tic).% , r-l": S'miAl1 Busicw.!;.z
o: -chc: A�Viso-
CtIj-,ter ',-Las %1irqilio Perez its tho L...,cutivd Dir,:ctor, Lu:Ls'
as 1t.5 vice-prc:siclent and TrQas-arcv. 1.0
C'-dU"Lber 0i Con" RL 'rCU' 1 "qc)Uld "kO to point OL,.r
fact I:y culltc!r
o-*- Diructors of the Small businu!;s
untircly of Cubans. We foci rhat th-is iii
?thnic groLlps in tho TUrt.1-03r.-Tiore'. W� Wo-oic!
-
hint out thc; following `ac--t-,;- lehe have lu.A rnuc! tnat thie
grantud thiS money c . n(L re;oiraiiendation of the
That Chu orcjinal G1rCCZGY of the ii.-L%Ic: at. 1:j.X'OLl
:,()r no ^.Qa5on. That he W'..-, cold chat. hu h,kc' to bac'k
f0l: the of thc: Comr,,.ini-.y Aay.;..,ory
Wy
Or e Su - TI-l'.%t. hu, was i,-,::1udk.' in
llc),ur Sal,.,,y for "'Ir. virgilic) Pure4, and Was P
01"iCt-' for the Of :iQVQr', fOUfU.1 lOct
CO= mi 1.,at.n Churrd)vr 0" n,�rco auspi-te Dudgctary lizai:ions. The
two employc.,u6i
r. ja1111(.! Guuit.,� an �dditicjr-il i:,osition pluz;
2:u 1-. -6L�d M 6-4tuz; ,:1
r-O 'C-U It
We d 'L - n I
t_:UCLt1Lrcj.;rclincj .:ha:, cuL..'itikDr, over I. I i C, C)
M M,1y")r All have itily cowanvnts or,
Mr. M"Yor, tnis d.--, th,first that I h;w,: su.,-,n o::
Lj WO Will t[IUM. Arturo 1-1 is r1c1YL frOM
I f nc! Co -an n
T)uj)LAr1L:wQ,-,t L 2r�:,dL.- A. orcu Devolo,
mayc,r Vtrre; Who?
Mr. Fosmoen: Arturo Tijera is mere. He will fallow up an those
allegations and we'll bring you a report 'back.
Mayor Ferret All right, Mr. `.Cijera, would you report through Mr. Fosmoen,
back to the Commission on this and...
Mr. Plummer: At the next meeting.
Mayor Ferre: ...would you meet with Emilio Lopez as soon as possible and
send us a written report and would you schedule this on the agenda meeting
at the next, in ten days. Okay?
22, PERSONAL APPEARANCE- I. RICKV CA:dI,NITI
Garbage Collection Lee
;Mayor Terre: I'm sorry w4 held you up so long" I apologize for that
but you know we've had some important issues.
ms. I.Ricky Caminici: My na"le ib Ms. I.Ricky Caminity I .live at 4245 S.W.
2nd Terrace Miami and I'm Executive Vice President to the I.ejeune Home
Owners Association. Honorable Mayor Terre and members of the Miami
City Cotan,ission and fellow citizens I have prepared a written staten;ent
which I request be entered into the record. my purpose: in appearing
before you today is a subject item eight new garbage collection fee.
In my correspondence with you, I noted that many of the letters to the
editor of the Miami Herald have decried this new fee in addition to the
garbage tax already included in the annual property tax payments. I
don't think all the Coamissioners are seated.
Mayor Ferret You've got an majority of the Contnission, there's another
Commissioner right here you've got four.
Ms. Cami•aiti: We call this an imposition tax dressed up as a fee
authorized by our Commission at a hearing with no advertising nor a
public hearing this is no way to conduct public business. It is
absolutely unheard of that an issue as important as a fee or tax can
come out of a pocket as it was not on the agenda and have the City
Commission approve it for the entire City property owners already
over burdened with taxes, if this was intended to knock off sanitation
workers it can only mean adding a whole new work force to cope with the
logistics of a new bureaucracy. You are attempting to make more taa
dollars than this new system is worth from the family of coffurs... from
the f.imil.y confer and from the senior citizens: on fixed income who are
the backbone of this city. First time homeowners who represent black
americans, cubans american, haitian americans among other ethnic groups
are not aware of their rights as new property tax payers. It is up to
you to show theta that they have the right to be heard on this matter
and at a time set in the evening so that the majority of those who
work during the day to earn their living will be able to attend and be
heard, instead of t.,1k L:1,i; the day off from work as I have to come before
YOU. A pray.ious City Commission several years ago attempt to push
through a similar prolort at that time the public demanded a public
hoarIng and got it. We want clie same opportunity to be heard if not
we :.hull confider that you are taking away our independence and individu-
ality with this proposed container rental. program. The curb side pick-
u}7 Is bad for our ald`rly citizens and tax payers and number two we al-
ready have our garbage cans and see no need for other rental containers.
We just don't want to bear the burden of this fee, it's as simple as
that, we recommend no change in the Department of Sanitation pickup.
Perhaps you should identify philosophically with Thomas Jefferson, who
stated that government is best which governs the least. Just as you
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DASSed the resolution you are herc:f:' 3CiucStc:(i to ccsci'id Ci7e
resolution calling for a :,e-w r,arba,,,,u collect -ion fee, Or use these
options, one ':old community WiGC paD1:C i+0i 1':";;7�:,5 •which a're well
advertised, two holi, :"e "iP"CC'n:+UL: -,n i-isue so, tl1aL' -"hose of Us
who must pay the ta:; may decide' WL—L:ii?Y CO al,) -,'OVO It Or 'ne-t. We
demand thu xi ,ht i:U rte i:li1TC1, �Jf k'::11 ;tGt Oac.'__u taaaL'ion 1+'iti7out
representation or who mUSt seeK reL:0U':SJ ii7 tale Court. I hava this
day spoken ta'ltil Grace i.ockafelli:r; it 11 J the \c'rthua;t Miami.
Impruv?meat Association who naS as,N.Ud Co S. G';: btltialf 0." L-1
\orthceitse w:- lt'S twelve thousand
members also for the Bel efead:: `ropurt, VW::e r :.s�ociial.D for the
}jay T'Gi:ht Propc'.rty CjwnorS ti5li: Cltit:.Cn ai7G .i:,io for ::Orhii:t;Slde Property
Associa':ion as we. -.,I as c]r the T.,oj,:unE., lomuo nerls Associa-
tlorl. I also speak i.is advaCant for all. -hzsc! property ukiilri llot
yet a:tilliated an.i thuSL' Who GO 11(-,:. )'c::: :utly Uildcr,t::rtl thLi'r i'iihts
as nk!W [iomc!OWnerS :irlu ti•3::T?a'.'cT,. `ivt'. jC:;t :i�liG chi" ic''i wf,aL the
Co ,,Ce1SS Can f;:.V'e the congru6s Caii take: awir/ w;:ich is relevant right
4.1
here. Thank you r.or giving me tf11.t3 to te"i you how we as
tax ',):iyl9�u lt'ul Jinci hOT,e YOU in yo,,-,r will give this, youv 'argent
nl"tG 117+:;1i.d:.�ite iitti.!li:::On iS you ar,: rc:5'116rSi1uLc' to all o: Gu w*iJ nave
elucced this Coi:imissi.on.
iayor Fvrre: A17.1;1i+= Mrs. Ca-,-n-L-i i z 1 10t mu li'i•St of all L"hailic you Yor
your G„CiencQ in h:iv:ing weiii4C(i I1,e:1i c11.1 aftCrllOon to make y011r Statement.
Secondly let c.o ail.il:'er ;/OU r1din -LIO.5cion, 1:1)arc will bo a pu'011c huar-
in� , tihc public hearing will be during, tnL.. Budget process. 1tii7un will
that 'bL ',ir. X,,Wager'?
Mr, Fos;moen: The twunty six and the thirtieth Mr. Mayor.
Mayor ?!rre: The two dates that will be publicized for those he.hrings
will bu jr, tihe evening of Supi.i:mber twenty ;,1:{ .:lnd in the e",unin" of
SuptOlnbur thil:ti(!th and We Wiil addross thci't isJu, at that tir.,u.
Mrs. Caminiti: Now where will the public h,i"rings be?
Mayor Fe.rre: ,hcy wlii i)tr right inc•re,
Mr. Fosmoen. At seven o'clock P.M,
Mayor: 'Vclrre: Seven P.M. Ok.
?:r .. Camiuir.`.: For those of us who have 4l ',,r'r't iculr:'; ralisious
pc ::,ua ision,'C cion't bc•lii:ve a Friday ni il. I'S :,Uitatlu for a public
hcari'l,
Mayor Furra: The twunty six you're ror',,+c.e ...., th4 first f:iday.
Mr. Howcird Gary: F:xcusu me 'Mr. ?l+syor..
y.:,yor Terre: Yes.
0a'i•Y: i V tni: la',/ WL! :4av4 to have'. it on 'Chat date:, this is a
:hate 1 i :i:c Lill T,aw .equir...,L :7c,
Mi,iyor "rurru: A st+ to law?
Mr. Fos'moen: And they also Tc <y1;1Te: to Ct,JV4 it aftu. five: o'clock,
Mayor :Jcrro. r;u YOU...
tors. Criminii:i: Dous; i.t also rc:ciuixu that you have it on a friduv
ev,�nin::'
1."I"Y l* lit* rc:: No., IW- Set? the 1Aw Spec.:.f ie_S cage day and I think it iS
fifccen days after...
Mr. Cary: nigiht.
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fifteen days after they :set i: he il' ")':O�j nc" C icL -
Mavor Ferre: Y e ah a r, d -tr, a !,.;w a -ad C*:io fi�-rum-rh day
the lull:! op-p()-f-Lu1,:LcY or, t"e,j 1.i1L 11Z "QVUTI ?-M- "JO YOU
Will ',lave -1.
. eqj,ii Dpfjo['L'u niLy C 7, or Dc—:i, o; 6aY3 and I
Will rcco;'nizi. you &L'. tl'.at L'*'^'C A11u tlnoo'u of you zllar- can't make it
on Friday, t*nc-. i-.wemlcy si-z will bL 011 tuQ6ciay Cou Cnirtivth
Mr. Fosmoen: Thosc datas will Dt CiVQ.rt1SCU ill Che
Mrs, Cainin-;.ti- Fine L*oiarl, You, A ?oiric or infoM-,ation please.
I mayor f2rre: YeS.
aULjj0jjCc- ltOL' 'ay jc-'Ua,.1y iivi-- ii, Lhu CItY 01 i- Tny
na k you vor
kindly.
Cor'I'missionol- ca:Cj - L ic. : , - v,)U very jaUQ L"'KiVig ChQ
Cilao., ---hink vOU"-:Q V'nonul's
je-fer.'.on jiC, --.ay it bust that ChU Lei SC iS
Wich poverw the Vast, that it UnL Of Wily 1
r-11 'i 5 C 0 n L U i C, Ur ,
M Mr,,— Than:C you an1 YOU: vc)C-
I - r. Alan -Rock�way
wclru now or, iLu�-1 nUr,,'D,�.r M
and Mr. Robert Kunst.
t.—d'O. W.0-'A,MZ
23 APPEA!;j%NGE- Di:. ALAIN ',%'. ROCK ROCKWAY AND R06Z!T KUNST
"privacy Act"
CIMSLicutionai Amandmient
Mayor Vt;rro: AlzijhL.
Mr, RORM Xunsc:Alin Xoc,Cw:,V, *ill be bade in tirle. My
-If. *,,1ayc;: ai-, membC
rs of
is �,ob Kunst., 23.5 Oura! Gcibles. t' d
the. Commi-.i,;ion, 1 like to gut your ork rt:ally somcthi-ag very
fundameac,U �,nd vory basic and real.l., vezy S'+'cxplc and yoc it has a
, cc, bacA -Co t:ur,,n6 of what jjjs o
our community. Or, thu 'Novem'oe-C foui'..h which actually ;-'arlks the
first anniw.rbary of the taking of -.n 1ran. By ru."lAiGus
W(' C'" 11.1Q 100-1c 'IL W'r,;.,t'.6 11,11)'PLIled 111 c,-jis country by
ill te.,-
_Is of c,*, n
V,jigious Awkism . t b�!ij%g trawp 1Qd o ,
011e g"Coul) cwr wAY 1.6 C,".L- Orly WL.y 11111 t-'VerybOdy C11--iQ fiC,V 1St to
bo more un&.-raocrativ 0*,' anytlhinE;
mare wastuful or anytbing wro Winiva Churl \.Ici only -:,eQd Lo lock aL
what happened 1.11 Our community in llijjetc!on Nevunty seven with the repeal
of human rip' .,nts here
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Robert Kunst; contW) : WCaUSP 61 WiL -:"-YloG<,--'':. fuUllrijis, whether
we are pro-g8y, Ur anti -,,ay Or J. rCaliy
occurred, what rually happunod t*rlc law, We
have no respccL for Cat? CO 1iu trL-ated
equally undkrj.- thu law fur a"y6ic's :i_*,-_, t,�, c-L, .)rocu3:, c,,n� vvuryoau's righ":6
to I)H thoMS01VU2;. .Vn, Wu i-C, '-1 L'--*-r,(.t. -;1:,:i%�j,aQ'.:/ Lla nL ,ercUs
door whiS we PILL,. OU WOn L!l,-: L uver *..,,*,,, conEvn-
r-ion anybody a enjorwo i%,, L-.' 3 ILI-'Out
Illy UW,-I, al-16 SL.CL)lj(jj',', o;. �.,f pl"Cizo.cZinc, peoples,
ri�Iltb is exactly what n4i ve.,-.uy L ha b ird but
that"- nUVUC WhZir s,iic". vi'l" j:," ;-,iany people
didil , t -cay ,.,y t it ,: i C' 17 C, L —: C") .1 a:Llll L!1'1& ic voi y came out and
saiq was WS Ckay LJ 11� "y Co 'L-O have
censorship, uverythiz, that !"si:nll A,"ZIVQ Li, 50 "Z i6 il-l. abOuL W4
implemented in this CO the
pu)ple who wan., CO 'lin"lly 60L "y With it'
you ca,-, bac "w.1 w. a., -,,kl I*Ilj',-',) G y J-. Lt I --; _0 U 0 Lo -p YOU,
buuwse the majority oZ tna top,, 0 '_.I .'o LI.,.; rjht i:Q MY
M5 K bona in CnL 1-0 LROU YeaCs J UCn) 00 OUC. LO LnL! Ut "Ilde-
CCII.M.',', al-IJ -100k, : ll 'C , ,. 1 . *, " .: , WC: C-'l �'o"- -)il tilL bcilioz
agall zo ruvuc. n ..hi, Val, Vo" '00 01 A MAL happen". "I Vt Sun"n i6,
C U Lill: :l I i'l
L."ic',; o.--, oC4 ilC z;*.,,,l:',-,,r. :�, *,--,,L: t-llu ",-Lo a�!
We clfu i'Low WIMAsnq. 0s)l zro ur:0.va in LKS tOWM KaV Ma S MCM0 U
f 10 r in..:,Cl i J, ta k.! C 0 i'Or Cho 1"Sc
Ln.ww YL410 is Ono Moo pjacn- oW5 L"7 :MnUr tha- ill,, 6L.'11L u-i alound the
=11. Not ], AC "a, (.ix valiso mw) na iore than
Of LbUir PDMZ W"i al 'L:. CnL! i,',' Viu!:Ir C Z I S 0- , WIL 10
de.,L,:oyin,�, ia I:. L: J I-L* -�- L. I -. -.1 ti„ or L11. V C 0. V -f il,� r (N3 t y
built City
or at Earzu, 6i. All we Cal bay
VLry CIVOCly 0 Cho SZZLP-y -'-W- 11:,. of iL beull
N/L*r I *rj,,: ;, izu;I 110" KT Ana A! of this Ns Won
tl�VUHQ M OVOY Lao Yall" in In
1978 WU CaSs n. 15=-A „cZ 46 V-Lo: cold Liu UIUML CIO M jUsr '-.'I 'LLrMS Of
Gay a:f,,acs. Ara:.,ia,,.;1y that wc, ,pur on our n,?L-Ltion drive
�n(.- C .. i L on llilziv,t 0
TWL WL ,.-
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al.
are nuz uW nj obtain 3 Ob OUCdU�� Qay 101l't ZPK,, tWO he other
I lanFualo. Our
ou,: j) d ipu�21,
uU17 was 'LO Mild
And whore w"s caw in.aoran;p? warm wove Lk. -.11 k:-or-Lalullity
On 010 When Wu IM -1 Vl.t-' , oVQL'y1U'-)Ci-1' '4-413 starLiI16'
Z:O :aOLt, ..". " ' I - - i s C, .- : ". . � 12 %P n L amazjij�,, thirq, n
only a nua,ut st mvn.b.� zo jui W,M vw,w, Nd 1 Wa" to Lull you
IMOL I"aZ Means, K Wad M Of Z"U VUM, WO YWI: -11 'Voll 92,000 in 1977 co 143,000.
Tau oppusirion Napped .!moot 15 "00, juz in ." ",yrL�111L f0r. yr)u �o rocoanize
thaL 4w got move vocal fo: h.o.tn rml:s ims ,y -n.:j cha" JU=W ancer and 716
Kon-laby ..Sc combinK :11 C*,1,2 x::,r(-h :1*...I1 ..... . (,'"Cter
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of srievancL-_ to be. able Lc, cu-, !Z
be. -cause whac nap7)ent,k4 wa,s '0Y 1,10Z klalv ,I% . IVCILa 'e"t. ..... L eM
to abuse iLscllf Co ti-le. PO11111_ Zaa� W L�
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IL anti wt.,Ive: ,L)(: a'jout 40 or ;,O moru itLms,
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shi.:), nor. jIii,1- by Llls:) by Oil icz;
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I've been through With YOU i)k_'170re i:l ind Chu gran-C.
was very enlightening. It showeQ me v0z ?An mc-i— of Miamni do
not work. Vrat?n we went Dudartment. of
Labor appeal we 1v.-Irau.1 fac.z z*1-J2 _:ie cku:.ibcr one, jobs
program in :he counLry da.,; ',,,:,ry luari% zhat.
Itm not saying let's c;o sayin...'; w,-: r4ave- tl community in
Which murder and raiiyhum jLs Of chi5 City Wall Mary single
day and which zho �X, L*,i]LL VOOM drl 17-iiZ tuall'i anyzhin,3 ?i'oout, 'Do -cause
you do not take a "tL'.accl oil You doils'l: ,;now iiny kind of considera-
tion in terms r-)f euta-_in 1,:c We have an op-
portunity in this C,:j,-.-*ciLut1o1la1 :,,_.,V1s1C,i1 "',C).21, zx, pCOL-Cct �;:,Y "Alld L;Craight
people, to protect Cuban people, and nocive-sami Lo ?cotuct Black and
10hinz payde, and 1 chink you need to Laku thu op?urtuniq, ::t) accc�,,)L your rosponsi-
bility. A, you are right, Mr. ',Xlayor, Lhi.,.; I" Llot ;ItSZ a f,ziy issue or not just it
btvaij,ht i.,;suc, but it kjuj procuZc c:Vu-cYbOcYV Mu-scylu, ev,2rybo�'Y's intimate
relacionships and it says chat everybody's hamo :.,-, thu-_.I' anci I would ask
Lhi'i Cu,`:,iaiatiiOn ZC-�O Oil 1:dcorc vary simply as 6upporr_.Lni� 6cLstiLuzion-il Revision
No.2 ancl Lhu riShL Lo p1:iWICY-
I u just: br:Lefly say
Mayor 'F(.!rru; All ri,;hL, thank yuu v�xy mucic. Rockway, It ci,,
t'Iat SUCLLoa 23 of of L'nc! C.ollsLitution
nhich read, We to UtZU4:A1 , rl.16 :iw. riJ,z 1:o be lLat
r1011d in into n'-iz, ), -�v L
ivZte lilzC,
QCV!od, 16 an WS& tO Lau AZXWQn GUnSLUMS11 ana Wb CurL"LQ1 Ln iosuu that
both the Rut uslican ano chu Uumacrazic PAIL" KV, VIWZV,,%, '.OU`*,lt ful*
Ehil%k L.-,aC tC,,.t17t_' 1, 1_1,46_,:C!V C."Y "UnWOVUCSY. all d-1;U vU.;)n!LZ,
co disia6re1 with boLh You and Q. Kunzt. Y OWL ::�LL!L WiZ*1-, Chu T-IJOrity Of tllc
`,,Ou staLOO Oil crtu Go a"ree witri to Privacy
adction, which a&undmwac No.!, on, 1 'c.av,_! wi":'Lj I kicnit &Llow
,[.ow
ybo,�.y Y, ',ICS LU mi1kC
:,-1OL1.0V1': All Y(.)LI VU',".1 X.LiCh, I
r�Ur,6� : 16 the to �akQ an action on this?
Inyor Varre: 1:vidun�:-i-y, nobuGy Wants -LO Make " 1,10tiOl', Oa iL and '. 6u,.ss that
apte,.k6 for u0U!;n'L
woll, 1 chlnle' th, it Q very impurcs.,.z. to roco,,4ni.,..,o thLt. the i,c:ttle
1 :Lar.6 "Ark! cold Cully very W, 1 don't know wily wu c.,�x.lt have it
c)n rj1:Ls of .-. javel. liku to ask yow Mr. Lac,Aha, and 'Xr. Carollo..
just left, Qua the Wan cOWunicY 006 L100, th4n willing, to .;Uppurt Anita Bryant
and to cruatu the ch"an that happenod is this Vowl', *0.ore, and now, all of a sudden,
that Cic), ,L-Ls it'G ;o un,"3rtunaLL!,
ark; 110L to SUPPO'.t iiuyoi,kly -Iso's rxunt:-;?
Mayor Ferrui Mr.Kunzt, an, more cimu. io chur, a nu)cion on chu Curu,isbioll
1)actCinc; N,).�'. oi conaticucion"! "w"&,vuov? lu neru further disau-
z,sioa? Thaai< you vu;:1,1 1,1uilr..
4 6.� 6AL',-. O'F T"",.E
Mayor Forre: al%! 110W No-10. Jollx, S,`,luchtor, Chairman of cin,:
J'alyers SUItt: Thu"trO-
Mr. Earl Powull: mr. wov, , n,= _irl .IowQll, a,.%u Ilorzo wizlh
Xr, who i., currorlL u1. thu �card )t.-,c. Players s itL
Thuacrc 10 Coconut NOW, oohn hs: :.,cu a5 a Zol%or
o' zoR a 0. !L,) aS& or Your as -
a. s matey
u: Cho Lhl";YOZ YOU'Ve "IUMS"d Wday OLL luesair,111, I nopo., ,L; illiportant
aaa ecrtaic.11y aL, a....
J
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Mr. Powell: We think the Players TIWe inre "ki-S Laell a ri_':tl SUCCebs Story for
our community and we need a little pulp here in order to complete something
that we started.,,.
Mayor Ferre: Ear 1, let's gut rign:: down to thu •bottom of this. What exactly
is it that the Players Theatre wants?
Mr. Powell: AS you knsw, wd na%,Q omturCd into new ctiations to ;;,`11 that very
valuable propert,J t,i Chi ,3tace of F.Lorida, and this has berm going on four about
a year. Our pati.nice has baeil i rarcllely strained by dealing with GSA and a
result of not concluding this transaction when we oriLi.nally intended to, the
Theatre had a deficit of about $80,000 last year ar;d is very short on cash, In
order to perfect the closing, we hcive to clear up certain, title imperfections
that will mi t us $10,000 to $12,000.
Mayor Ferre: What kind of imperfections?
Mr. Powell: The:l'L imperfections on the title, there are certain mirror items
ghat CS?; has given u: a l;.st of abc>>.,t 1.2 items, ;cost of which are fairly easy,
t10T:11 Of which are a .Little biL' COS-r- .y to Ul ,, SO 1 'T:I COnlin., DufOYL )'U1.1 today to
r(..quest 41 .'ranc frol the Ca.ry lLot to exceed �10,000 LO 11i_'lp us lief th/ :il• i.;Oplr-
ectionS cluarc6 to ;il low this closi11„ to take 'Mace, ana once tl•,at
:1r, P:Luz,,mUr: T ; this a loan"
Ar. . Dowell: Wei would lirctUr 0i i�r<1i7L..
Mr. Plui:mier: We prer:er a loan.
;favor Ferre: H'hat uthur sources of r,lo:ac,.y du you have available to gut th",t
$8,000 or $1.0,000?
X:r. Plu-nimer: They havu none,
Mr. Powell: Rir;ht, Actually, as you know, th,: theatre is primarily funded by
local commun iti.es and by the: Sui)pOrr of the private sector.
:•iavoi, crru: i.c:t :;iu seu if I can be ;.in advocate ror this.. ,Tht: fact is that
this is ri�:,hr smack in the midd.i.0 of Coconut Grove. I think that the Grove
has a groat a ;set by this thaatru :and I thin,, that we. are very lucky that the
SLcate of `rlorid: il:.S Cor.,e forward with the money to buy the property and 'I.
think we ought to 'Do supportive. I mean, this is just one of our own in some
of the) things that we should be able to do.
'Xr. Lacasa:Move.
Mayor Ferre: A.11 right, moved by Gacasa, is there a second?
Rev. Gibson; Second.
;•favor. Ferrt:: All right, there is a second, further discussion, call the roll,
this, i. as a t;rant.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-6:14
A MOTION Ol' '1H CITY COn,1ISSION' GRANTING A REQUEST OF A GRANT
X,AJ'- aY 'Ni. "P1,:11':..,,� t-TATE Tril-'ATRc" IN A SUM \OT TO EXCEED
$10,000 FOK 'fill l)0100SE Ol CLEARING TITLE. IMPERFECTIONS BEFORE �
PROPOSE',) CLOSING ON THE SA1.1: OF THE COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE TO �
THE STATE OF FLORIDA INTEZAL IMPROVD2NT FUND CAN TAKE PLACE.
Upon buin;; seconded by Comissioner Gibson, the motion was passed and adopted
by the foilowin�, vote-
-
Ali ES; Commissioner (Rev.) T. R. Gibson/Vice Mayor Armando 1.acasa/ Mayor
M. A. Fur're.
4BS)"N\T: Commi.ssionar .foe: Carollo / J.1- Plununer,
NOTE: 'Commissionok Plummor rQquu6ted to bo shown as voting ',`i0
on this
u? SAP j E5 I980
w
0
? 25. EXTENT) AGREEiILNT: PEAT, MARWICK AND MITCHL"LL, CITY AUDITORS.
AUDIT OF CITY BOOKS FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEiiL'ER 30, 1981.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on item 38. Go ahead, Mr. Gary.
Mr. Howard Gary: As Mr. Fosmoen, stated this is an extension of the auditing
services of the firm of Peat, Mai -wick & Mitchell for one year to cover the
period in the fiscal of 1981. I'd like to make a note, on your second page,
the,fourth paragraph should read $150,000 as opposed to the figure you have
there. Primarily, this in conjunction with our overall plan to improve the
financial operations of the City. It is felt that because of the transition
that the Finance Department is presently going through, in addition to the improve-
ments that we are presently making;, that it would be beneficial for us to extend
the services of Peat, Marwick & Mitchell. I must also inform you that we've added
an additional activity to this external auditing atrecmcnt, and that is to give
us accounting assistance on a quality basis to insure that we can now begin to
give the City Commission quarterly financial reports, and I recommend that this
extension be: granted.
Mayor Ferro: Now, what's the will of the City Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, you know, I have to put my City duty above my
friendship with Earl, and as Father says: "T. have no light to guide my future
except the iight of the past," Now, you know, we signed a contract with Peat,
Marwick &Mitchell and they did a study. The study told this Commission some-
thing they didn't want to hear. This Commission said -to hell with it.
Mayor Ferre: What does that have to do with this.
Mr. Plummer: The courts have now said that you are going to go back and listen.
Mayor Ferre; That was a completely different item and it had nothing to do
with...
Mr. Plummer: It's the same firm,
Mayor Ferre: Sir, that had nothing to do With accounting, auditing or otherwise.
It had to do with an appraisal. It's completely and totally unrelated to this
item. What is before you, at this point, is whether or not you, as a member of
this Commission, wish to authoriau the extension of the ft oies8ional services
from Peet, Marwick & Mitchell for the purposos of conducting the audit of the
books and the accounting records, and they fi;u.kntcing records for the City of
Miami for this coming fiscal. year. And I think that Mr. Grimm has explained to
you the reasons why that makes some sense. Hey, you are entitled to vote 'no'
and to be against it, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, I guess really what I'm saying is, Mr. Mayor,
if they are going to come back and tell us whaz they feel, are we going. to
listen to them?
Mayor Ferre; What?
Mr. Plummer: We didn't befc-o ,that's what I'm saying.
Mayor Ferre; This is an audit, man, it has nothing; to do with telling you.,..
Mr. Howard: This is for the: yearly audit, Commissioner Plummer, of the total
books for the City.
Mayor Ferre: You are mixing apples and oranges.
UNIDENTIFIED S:E:AKER; I Chink there is a very important distinction.
Mr. Plummer: Earl, please do.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: The contract that ,ir. Gary is presenting to you today
has to do with our role as your independent public accountants. The study that
108 8 E P 151980
you are referring to was performed by our &:parl:G;,-ti.t Linder th e
terms of the provision in the CiL,' C"' tl'r Y'C Aiii7_li�; t.7ct .i i s r ii..:; il. . l think
what it does prove, perhaps if notii i g c!ise as we a e prey ty indupendont, and
we are not going to i)ri.ng bac& studices ba:ued an ou'r ;:elation'hip with the City
that won't stand on its own two feet.
:iY. PluIiUACT: Well, all audit 1.3 co rell.l\' love uu a .rue p7Ctl1Y'c i1Rd that's
what I hope we. derive, i hi.ve nothlii�, b:lt ti1C :,rea ust 1•especc. for your firil!
sir,
'Mayor Fevre: Weli, 'v'i1Clt' tlic Will ul. Gaici (Ju'w,1Sd;:iOR, onl! way Cr the Othcr.
Mr. Lacasa: Move.
Rev; Gibson.: Sec-)nd.
Mayor Ferru: It's bvur, moved and socondtLtd, zurtrier discusbiun on itum 36.
Call the: roll.
ThL, foa.l.uwin6 rc;S0l.utioll Was intrudllcuc: bj Ccn.,flissionur Lacalsa, wllo moved
its adoption:
A R}:aULL''iTO;; Al;ThOKiZING TiiL CI'1`i :iAN:,Ci:R '.'0 EXTVN0 %'Hs i•:::'[S1,NG
}'itOi is iSI0NA1. '.R% ;:C:F: :u:a�;:E:':ENT WiTii Tiii' Flii ,'; OF PEAT,
iiiU;:1}:..L „ CO3:1'A.\Y 1.'. I.,.J I}' LL;/ PLilLi(. :V;C0'L;N1AN7S, FOIl .I, l:
OF CONDUCTING ' HI. ACD;T OF ThE 1WOKS, ACCOUNTING i:hCORDS ANF: 1'I-
N,'NUS OTV Tice: CITY OF :t'l= FOR THE i'TW'" 1'}:,',k 'r:`;L'iNl; Sia'T::?,d1:fi .,0
FOR ON -GOING :+CC;Oli`'iTNG AS,,;1,,ii,N -E, ilJi;i„G I'i::iCAL 1'1't , 1.980-
ly,1i, T,:1 A C:O.;'i Oi `•.7.7S,006 :.1:;1.'Et:T '1'0 Tiih AVAIIa%,;TLI'iY 01' .'LN*,)S
`CO 13L ALLOCATED FROM r'LSCAL. YEAR 1930-81 hUDGETED SPECIAL PROGRAMS
AND ACCOG:\'i S .
(Har4 iuliow6 body of resolution, omitted here imd on file
in tht: O;'t ii.e u: t:w C: ty C1k:.rlc) .
Upon bUillF; :;t Coi7ue': by CO aliasioner Gibson, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the colluwin6 vote:
AYES: K i.. Plummer, Jr.
Cor.linio:;loncr (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
(.GiiL„1Jb1OrK:r Joe C'.arollo
V.Lci� Mayor Armando Lacaba
.%:jyor Xiiur ice! A. `c'urre
NOLS : None:.
ABSENT. 1Gnc:.
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?o, PF.RSiLAL A.iPLARKCV; 110WAXi) DA 0J FOR CPPOlti of "i l:?.'LoN
CC). , i.�l:. "- l�� iel'ruCi t(G City
,taua�;er,
16ro'i For re: Aow wo have Mr. Howard Uando, K I'u;9ion Company, VLgUGS%i.ng
$lu,OuO. Yuur n"k: ;or tile: record.
Mr. Howard Dal'idO: ��l'tii..lei,��ll, r,uoC1 i'Vi:,ll',i,, My niliUe is HowardI)al1dJ, Gentlemen,
I Have not had tiir opportunity ut mueting any of you individually before this
mein ing,. I would .like: L0 toll YOU a I itcly bit zwout myself by way of intro-
duction, I am it Broadway pioducur, l havu promwed "a�;t. Popper's LoIlely hearts
Club band" oc, brO.l6w ay , Which L!: till ilc.•Nt: i!@;' musical, " o1lLliy, the Rock Number
by the W110", Lind ialaO i ciil'ucted i..lvi.i Presley oil Broadway and at trio Stardust
hotel. In the last c:ighl weeks since: i'vt_'' 44:1,n Exucuzivo Director of I•'llsion,
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I've been asked repeatedly: "Wtiat are you doing in Miami? You should be in
New York." And part of the reason I'm here today, addressing this Commission
will be answered I hope by this statement. I come from two cities originally,
New York and Philadelphia, both cities have a lone; term tradition of giving to
the arts, particularly in the corporate sector. In terms of city government,
all of the major cities that I'm familiar with have organized giving programs,
many of them arts council-.;. Lven cities that are often joked about are cul-
tural wastelands, such as Los Angeles, has $1,200,000 for city's contributions
to cultural organizations. I came to Miami -above all of the cities- for one
particular reason, I felt I could really do something in the arts in this city.
I feel perhaps like a pioneer in the cultural development of the City. And I
feel Miami is at a pivotal point in its history. It's moving away from being
solely a vacation and recreation and retirement community and is rapidly evolving
into a center of international banking, import and export marketplace, and an
international industrial and corporate headquarters. This means an influx of
a new breed of people who are accustomed to and demand cultural activities.
As you know, there are four profe5s.ional performing arts organizations in Miami.
The opera, the philharmonic, Players' state, and Fusion. I would hope that
you would support all of these organizations but today 1 ask you seriously to
consider a grant to the Fusion Dance Cz)mpa:;y. I know that there are many pres-
sing issues before you today and some may suet, more critical that funding a dance
company but I'd like to give you an example of the daily business of the Fusion
Dance Company. I had to make a decision about...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dando, in the interest of time, let me just say that I don't
know what the will of this Commission will be but I think that it is going to re-
quire much more: information than what's just in these three sheets that you've
presented. I would recommend that, if it would be the will of this Commission,
Mr. Manager, that perhaps you ;assign somebody to meet with Mr. Dando for the
purposes of seeing what these $10,000 request would actually do for the City of
Miami community, what their botal budget is, what part of the budget this is,
how they are being, supported by the Metropolitan Dade County, by the Tourist Tax
and the other funds that are available andthen co -mu back to this Commission with
all that: information for us to deliberate, there is no way we can mace a de-
cision on this at this time, I. think.
Mr. Lacasa: What I would like to ask, Mr. Mayor, is, to the Manager, when they
get together, that they really try to see how we can hlep these people. This
is about the second or third time that you've come here and I have aiways supported
the concept because I, 'or one, feel that we do need in the City of Miami some
kind of cultural expres,,;ion of what this City is. This is probably one of the
very few cities of certain importance in our hemisphere that does not have any
group -whether musical., dance group, etc.- that can express our City's feelings,
and it is high time for us to have such a way of expression.
Mayor Ferru: In other words, what we are saying is follow procedures, will you
please? In other words, go through the Adm:nir.tration. There are a lot of other
people that continually are askin., the City of ;Miami for money for the arts and
I think it is something that ought to be seriously considered.
Mr. Dando: Okay, we are talking about a Festival, that comes up in a few weeks.
Mayor Ferre: In three weeks. All right, than why didn't you come before us
before this time?
Mr. Dando: I'm only in town six weeks.
Mayor Terre: Well, I'm surr;, chat your predecessor or that your associates
didn't think to come before. I just don't see how we arbitrarily and unilateral-
ly....
Mr. Dando: Well, basically, it is a grant to three major festivals in Miami,
but ostensibly what it really is is to seek general support. Fusion has not
received any direct grants from the City as I understand it for the last four
years.
Mayor Ferro; Mr. Dando, are you aware that there is a mechanism for lust this,
and that that mechanise;(toes gr,;Lnt hundreds of thousands of dollars just for
this.
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Mr. Dando: 1 was C1irucwe6 to kjresc!nt ;:his propo6a+ 1)y tr,c� Of the
City Manager, Mr. GRas6ie, to do it i:xactiy in t ,io is ,i0:1. :lorry.
Mayor Ferre: Well, Mr. Gras;iu. , .. Z ` , taiking ao:,ut 'ci'.4 ::i., t;l,a'c' S correct.
Mr. Plummer: Have you applied to the T:1C, sir?
Mr, Dando. 1 wa.zi toid co i,o it tiliS Wd'W 1 a ;.cCi:u t,i ''t', 1,r.25S1G and
then making aii appolnr_XwIiL to be an the Agenda.
Mr. Plummer: Have you applied or has Fusion applied to "'DC'.
Mayor Ferre: hc: uoc_.:;1't over, know what the ;JC is.
Mr. Pluruner: Tourist Development Council, Sir. They have aoout $4,000,000
for -this kind of thing.
Mr. Dando: T think that next time we coin have a ?eo',)osal is front of the TDC
could be a year from now, and I'm tryirt; to seek :;ap;>ort now.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you l;ee.t 'dizh thQ staff uad follow 1)roce'.dures, All right,
thank you very m;ucr, for your paticn;,u t;)day.
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Mayor Ferre: Now 1'l::: havu ifiami As oci"tes that 11ave been Waiting; all day and
you wcru asked to eolr,u back ac 5:00 o'clock specifically for this purpose.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Xayor, �iincu I was thu onl w10 ruquustud) :f you wish, I way
handed two piec:i:S or paper.. Mr. wors"'Ial:l, or Xr. Ft -nu, whoever is representing,
1 have had now the time to review thu rca,arks on top....
Mayor Ferre: Wnat two piucua of papers were you handed, J.L.?
Mr. Plummer: One titi.ucl "(;Onrad A�;;sociiitv:3, East" acid the other one: "Fer.endino,
Grafton, Spill.is, .." .in a letter, diced September 15th to Mr. LaBaw.
Mayor Ferre: i)o we have that too?
Mr. PlUMmcr: Yc:,, X- . G: is .:, passed tilunl ou;. to all ot; us.
Mayor Ferro: Is this the one you ar,, t:lll:ing about? S(:pteillber 9th?
MT. 1'ltlinner. 1)aCc,4 54,ut'.1:1D�r t)tn 'C:5 iatC9 East, Mr,
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_ liuwarc: Arms.-, Mr. Fine, has your client, rc!ad thin entire concept?
Ronald Fi.nv, E;c,.: 1 bclievo he has, and so has Mr, uandala, of the 1'urendino
f irai,
X; . 1'.1 uau,iL'; : An4 is was m ' oi)illioll that you havca agraed to every point in
this dOCUMUili,. Is that co;;rucc?
Mr. Candol,a: WL- have avroed co every point that is a requir.eaent
and are sutisitivu to chu ones that are considerea wishes.
?lr, 1'Illn="ur: Wui.i, 111 othu"r wort1:,, is theft' in your budget: a $50,000 for signs
Scat a:,idC? Inc w arc: the pointy that I think we need to clear up. That's on
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Mr. Plummer: Is there a line in your budget reserving $50,000 for signs?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: There is an item in our budget for signs. The amount
of $50,000 we have not bid it. We do have signs in our budget and in our de-
sign.
Mr. Plummer: Item P(23). Mr. Candela, item P(23). I read that in your agreeing
to all of these items, that there is $400,000 included in your budget for security
systems. It was my understanding this morning that it was not your intent to do
such. Now, that's why I think these things ought to be cleared up now. Would
you speak to item P(23)?
Mr. Candela: Yes. The answer this morning was that everything that has to be
provided in the way of chases, empty duct -work, conduits, raceways, vertically
and- horizontally, to make this happen is in the design. The specific equipment
that will be purchased will be a specific item required by the user and we do
not know yet what specific equipment you'll be buying. What brand names, etc.
Mayor Ferre: J.L., you are saying P(23). P(23) refers to the pay, so "P" is
pay, and "F" is Ferendino, they are different schemes.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but Mr. Mayor, is it my understanding that you are saying
that...?
,Mayor Fa rre: Oh, I see. I stand corrected, I got you.
Mr. Plummer: They both apply. See, Because if I read P(23).it says.,'it
shall be ....... my understanding of that would be that it would be included
in the $15,000,000 figure. And you are agreeing to that but yet you are now
saying something different than what applies here.
Mr. Grimm: Commissioner, if I may.
Mr. Plummer: Please.
Mr. Grimm: They are required to design the garage within the provisions of the
contract that they have with the City, and the contract that they have with the
City did not require at the time it was drafted security provisions. This is
an afterthought, a good one, and what they've said is they are going to provide
all of the conduits that we can put in the equipment when we choose.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know Vince, that is unfortunately what happens around
the City.. $15,000,000 certainly turns into $16,000,000 because of these other
items, and $17,000,000 because this wasn't included, and I'm trying to pin it
down now. To my the television security is very, very important, and I don't
want it to be left out because in this Resolution they are agreeing to all of
the points either implied or wished in the Conrad Report.
Mr. Grimm: No, sir. Read the last paragraph on that page.
Mr. Fosmoen: But not the "wishes contained in the letter from Conrad As-
sociates dated September 9... ".
Mr. Plummer: Well, they did include this morning the wish list.
Mr, Grimm: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Candela, one other question that I have, sir,. I am con-
cerned in the area that has ':..en a problem in the airport and I wish you would
address it because it is only one line in this Conrad Report. I guess what I'm
asking for is assurances that we are not going to have the same problem, and
that's going to be because you addressed it, ventilation, exhaust, it has been
one hell of a problem at the Airport, it still continues to be a problem and
they are now trying to rectify it. May I ask of you, on the record, to address
that problem here.
Mr. Candela: The Code is very specific as to what is allowed and I do not know
the case of how the airport was built and certainly the City of Miami Code is
very specific as to what is permissible. We have to design a naturally ventil-
lating garage and the way you do so is by looking at ;specific amounts of openings
in each floor which has to be measured and you simply have to account for that
amount of open square footage. It is an environmentally sensitive area in terms
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of the level of contamination that is allowed in that area. It is just
simply black and white. It is not a ;;utter of it is a
matter of judgment. In the City of Miami Cody: is IS u i:1.:;c+r.,:a1 process
and for the garage to ba naturally vontillatae you i;:;1:1y have to come up
with that number.
Mr. Plummer: In the airport it would be said black and white -it's black
when there are cars there -and that's exhaust, and white is when there are
no cars there.
Mr, Grimm: Cominisr;ioner it I may, -cne pollution probiem at L .i: airport is
not in the garage but in the approach ramps to the terminal, there is a big
difference.
ir. Plummer: Thank you. ri'r. Grimm, the only other question I have for you,
sir, is where is the money going to cone for the surveillance?
Mr. Grimm: Well, I don't know that I can answer that question to you right
now, Commissioner, we have a contingency allowance in thu contract that may
be used, we may take some: of the revenues that we get from the garage to put
it in, we may defter it until we have the money to ,jut it in. We have other
garages, you know, in this City that do not have television surveillance.
,Jr. P1umr,ier: talc: in those garages we have problems. I am just trying to
eliminate government by crisis.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further questions, ,tr, Plummer, it is 6:15 P.M.
Mayor Ferre; lUtbyody else have any questions? All right, I think it is only
:'air to iet everybody have a cha;lcu to make any final statements that they want
to. Dour anyboiy want to address this CorLtission on any issue? Mr. Lipton,
Worsham, tfr, Fine? This is on the garage at the Convention/Conference
Center, that bir. Plummer requested be brought back at five.
Mr, i.ipton: I would just like to reiterate my statement this morning, that
we wish the design of the building and the garage as done by the I. M. Pei
firm be approved a:; well as the other one so that we may request that change
if...to build the tower that will be the landmark in the City of Miami. And
unPur:una�oiy, the garage has to go with it. I've given Mr. Knox a copy
of th(--, provision wi'.ich I think covers our ability to request that change unless
there is a problem.
Mayo:: Ferre: All right, Mr. Knox, your legal opinion, please.
Mr, :Lnox: That provision or the contract, and I'll read it for the record.
Section 5-1C) ontit:led Plans and Changes, in the second paragraph the language
is as follows; "Dade shall have the right to notify the City of any changes
or additions it wishes to make in such parking garage plans, providing
that such changes and additions will not impede the construction schedule.
The City and Dade will agree in writing reapcct:ing such changes and
additions, including the price thereof, and if such work is to be done
by the name of such others, and the time scheduled for the completion of
such work. In the event that the City and Dade cannot agree on the price
of such work, the City will call such work to be performed and the price
thereof will be determined as provided in Section 501 (b) hereof. The funds
for any such change or addition as finally agreed upon, shall be paid
to the trustee or as otherwise directed by the City." And this morning, we
indicated on the record that this provision is construed by us to mean that
the City and Dade jointly, would make any determination as to any changes
in the larking garage plans that are submitted to Dade pursuant to the
City's obligation.
Mayor Forre: Well now, you've rend the contract. Now would you interpret
it in a non -.legal language. Does that mean that the City of Miami Commission,
according to that contract, does Mr. Lipton and his firm have this right,
or can the City Covanission make a decision that is contrary to Mr. Lipton's
desire, and how does that put us in conflict with the other contract that
we have, in other words, can we make that decision?
Mr. Knox: Mr. Lipton has the right to suggest changes, In order for changes
to be made based on ttie language o: that contract, there has to be an
agreement in writing netween Dade and the City of Miami.
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Mayor Ferre: I see. In other words, he has a right to request but that
doesn't mean that he has a right to superimpose. It has to be an
agreement in writing. Do you have a problem with that, Mr. Upton?
Mr. Lipton: only to clarify one thing. Those changes, if they add to
the cost are paid by us. This is no additional cost to the City from
those changes.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Father Gibson: May I ask a question?
,Mayor Ferre: So in other words, we're legally able to do whatever this
Commission wishes to do at this point?
Mr. Plummer: Let me understand this for the record. This Commission,
as I see it, is going to approve the Miami Center Associates plan. That
means that if Mr. Lipton representing Dade Federal wants to make changes
to that plan, as proposed, he has the right to do so, in writing, and the
City can agree or disagree. And if we agree, it will be done at his
expense. Mr. Knox, is that correct?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: okay.
Mayor Ferre: All right now, Mr. Lipton has also asked whether or not
we could approve both garages. Now I asked Mr. Vince Grimm what the
affects of that would be and I want him to say that into the record.
Mr. Grimm: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I think you have to go back and
recognize that the City has a contract with Miami Center Associates to
build a garage and it has a contract with Dade Savings to develop the
air -rights lease. Now to say then that you approve or disapprove one
or both garages is too simple. To begin with, how do you got Miami
Center Associates out of the picture of building the garage? so do
simply state that Dade can come back in with a change and we agree with
the price means that then we also have to have our contractor agree
to that price. And lets suppose he doesn't. Now unless Mr. Lipton and
Mr. Worhsam got together and came back to the City and said we will build
the Pei garage for fifteen million dollars I don't think we've solved
the problem.
Mayor Ferre: So we're back to where we always really were. And I think
what I sense out of this is that we really only have one choice, both
legally and practically. Now, Mr. Candellu, I think, I just need to
say on the record, that if Mr. Lipton wishes to negotiate with, and come
to an agreement with the Pei organization to put whatever building they
wish to put on top of tihat, that that's their prerogative. They have
that right. And that's not to say that they're are going to do it, or
that they would or wouldn't do it. I think it is to say that that's
something that they contractually have the right to do. What they
don't have the contractual right to do is to unilaterally determine
what that garage, and what that strucuture is going to look like. 7►nd
that's something that evidently we have through contractual obligations,
must do, as I guess we're going to do. So what's the will or this
commission?
Mr. Plummer: May I ask one other question for the record? Mr. Grimm,
how much is the contingency fund?
Mr. Grimm: The Contingency Fund will be the average of the two numbers
that our appraisers finally determine. At thelxesent time, it's from
three 'andrud and ninety-one thousand to thri,,e hundred and nineteen
thousand. So I would say that.& fair amount would probably be in the
neighborhood of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The
contingency is a percentage of the ultimate cost of the garage, presently
figured at about three percent. The cost of the garage now, presently,
is close to fourteen million dollars. The hard cost of the garage.
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Mr. Plummer: That won't accomplish what I was going to try. But I would
like to, Mr. Mayor, since I can't put it in concrete, is to at least
make a motion, part of a motion or a separate motion, that the highest
priority be given the day the garage opens, that the TV security
system is in that garage.
Mayor Ferro: You can do that. May I request that you do that after
the main motion either passes or fails? All right, what's the will
of this Com-nission on this item?
Father C,ibson: I move, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: father Gibson moves, Comaaissioner Lacasa seconds. What
item is this. Would you word it for us Mr ... wait a minute. We have
a rusolut.ion here in front of us. Where is it?
Mr. Fosmoon: She just passed it out.
Mayor Ferre: A resolution approving the design development....
(AT THIS POINT, MAYOR FERRE READ THE RESOLUTION INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.)
Its been moved and seconded. Is there further discussion? All right,
call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-636
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND
WORKING DRAWINGS OF THE PARKING GARAGE TO BE
CONSTRUCTED BY MIAD11 CENTER ASSOCIATES, INC.
PURSUANT TO THE,AGREEMENT ENTERED INTO BY THE CITY
OF MIAMI AND MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES, INC. ON
JULY 11, 1980; FURTHER SETTING FORTH THE AGREED
FINAL CONTRACT PRICE AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE
CI'i'Y HAS GIVEN WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE DEVELOPER THAT
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR PAYMENT OF SAID CONTRACT
PRICE; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO ISSUE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED PURSUANT TO
PARAGRAPH 4.1 OF THE SAID AGREEMENT
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the: following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Mummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: : N0nu
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I'll now make the motion, Mr. Mayor, that the highest
priority possible be given to the installation of a security tv system
that has proven much worth -while in the present off-street parking, be
installed and in place tho day ofopening of that garage. I make
that in the form of a motion.
Father Gibson: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Very good, Its been moved and seconded. Is there
further discussion? Call the roll on Mr. Plummer's motion,
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummier, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-637
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION REQUESTING THAT THE
HIGHEST POSSIBLE PRIORITY BE GIVEN TO THE
INSTALLATION OF A CLOSED TELEVISION SYSTEM WHICH IS
TO BE INSTALLED IN THE PARKING GARAGE TO BE
CONSTRUCTED BY MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES SO THAT SUCH
SYSTEM MAY BE READY AND IN PLACE BY THE TIME OF THE
OPENING OF THE CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
28. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ATHALIE RANGE REGARDING PURCHASE OF
BUILDING - N.W. 62nd STREET
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, I had asked Mrs. Range, who patiently
was waiting for this item since early this morning, to come back this
afternoon. And I know she has a very important meeting that she has to
attend to. So we're going to take that item next. And Mr. Slack who
has taken from his time to be here on this ... what item is it Mr. Dyer?
All rightf Mr. Fosmoen, this is the African Square building item, right
next to the park. It is item sixty-four. Let me tell you...
Mr. Plummer: There's no problem. There's no problem
Mayor Ferre: Yes, there is. Let me tell you what the problem is.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, there is a resolution before you to purchase
property next to African Square Park in the amount of sixty-five thousand
dollars. The property would be used and an adjunct and extension of
African Square Park for various city activities and services. The
proposed funding source for acquistion is from Community Development
Block Grant funds assigned to the Model Cities area. To my understanding,
and Ms. Spillman is here. She can correct me if I'm wrong, that this
item is not formally been taken to the Model Cities Community Development
Advisory Board. However, she tells me that they have been polled. So
perhaps she can give you...
Mayor Ferre: Anything we do here, Mrs. Range, I hope you understand
would have to be contingent upon the approval of the Model Cities Board.
If they don't approve it, then I think we would have to review it all
over again.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, we do have one...
Mrs. Range: That's very well, Mr. Mayor. Let me state my name. Athalie
Range. 5727 N.W. 17th Avenue, Miami. My only question here is that I was
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Mrs. Range (continued): infur►rued this morning, was that the board you
had reference to this morning, that is no longer in existence?
Ms. Spillman: Yes, the Model Cities Community Development Board is right
now not functioning because we're having an election. However, we did
poll them, the old members, today to get some consensus, and the majority
of the people polled were in favor of this purchase.
Mayor Ferre: I just wanted that into the record. That's good enough
for me then. 'That• will be fine. All right, go ahead.
Mr. Fosmoen: That's all we have except for action by the Commission.
And I agsume that if you adopt the resolution it will be a final action
'because we're in a transition period on a board. And we wouldn't
want to take this issue to a board that's just newly elected.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mrs. Range, why don't you tell this Commission
exactly what the problem is and how you would propose to solve it
Mrs. Range: All right. Mr. Mayor, the problem is that the amount offered
for the building is, we feel, and even though we reluctantly signed the
contract# we do feel that it is not sufficient for the building. We
feel that we are being penali.zr_d because of the area in which we live and
in which the building is situated. We feel also, that this is a piece
of property that will be utilized to a very great advantage by the City
of. Miami for its adjoining Martin Lather King Park. And of course, we
did ask Mrs. Dena Spillman regarding the additional price that we could
Possibly get•.• And she advised me that: we could possible ask for some
funds from another source. But really Mr. Mayor, I will say to you
and these honorable Commissioners as I said to Ms. Spillman, that we are -
simply tired of begging. We have a building that we feel is saleable,
that will be of great use to your African Square Park. And we do feel
if there is any way that we can receive a greater amount of money than
has been allocated thus far. We have come as a last source to this
Commission to ask you to reconsider. it. Because we feel that we are
being penalized because of the area in which we live, and over which
we have no control. Ar►d we feel also, that other buildings and
other properties in the area are going for more money than we have been
offered. And this is our feeling.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mrs. Range, let me ask you this. The City of
Miami had two appraisals made of this property. And they came in within
the range of fifty thousand dollars. Now as I understand, you asked
Ted Slack, who is a well known appraiser• in this community, to look at
the property acid to look at the appraisals. He is not here in his official
capacity because he's not been retained to make an appraisal. But I
think there was a very key item that: came out during that conversation.
And I think it might be appropriate Mr. Ted Slack to step forward at
this point.
Mrs. Range: I would be pleased If he would.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Slack, you were requested to go and look at the building,
and look at the appraisals, and perhaps maybe I might begin by just
asking your comments on that.
Mr. Ted Slack: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My name is Theodore C. Slack. My
address is 1511 S.W. 13th Street, .in Miami. Yes, sir, I did go and
look at the property. I made an inspection of it and the area a few days
ago and I also reviewed the appraisals that had been prepared, I guess
at the City's request by Mr. Britt and Mr. Delhanty. Now perhaps the
best service I could be is to answer any questions anybody might have.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Slack, obviously it is not your function, neither
are we going to ask you to give an appraisal here on the record. The
question that I have of you is, that building that you saw, if it were
fixed up, and if that building were on 62nd Street but on the other side
of the tract, on an indentical piece property, the identical building,
would the property be worth more?
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Mr. Slack: Well yes, 1 bel.ieve'iL would,Mr. Mayor. From looking at
the reports that were submitted, they included depreciation of a certain
amount and so on. They had no break down as to what the depreciation
constituted, but its established appraisal practice that depereciation
includes several different aspects, For example, theme that we're
all familiar with is physical depreciation which would be any loss in
value due to condition. And there is some in the building, It's
in pretty decent shape really. But that's part of the fact. It's not
a new building and everybody .recognizes that. But a substantial
factor in this case is what we would call locational or enviornmental
obsolesence whir_} is a form of depreciation which is not related to
the property itself but is related to the location to which it finds
'itself. In other words, it's not the property's fault that it's there
but it is there and it's subject to influences which affect value
adversely. 'that's the anviornment:al influence that we talked about.
Mayor Ferre: Obviously, it stands to reason that if that particular
piece of property and that building were on Flagler Street and lets
say South Miami Avenue, it would be worth a very very .large sum of
money. We all understand that. That's not the question, you see. I
think the question really is, is there a penalty factor because it
happens to be exactly where it is. in other words, if it were in another
residential neighborhood that had not been affected by blight, and urban
rot, and riots and the problems that that particular area has had, would
it be worth somewhat more money?
Mr. Slack: Well yes it: would. i cyan give you a for instance. We
recently did a study of say Northwest Seventh Avenue up past 103rd
Street. Now the buildings are of similar age, the homes are of similar
age and so on, but it's out of the influences that you mentioned. And
the property values there are probably twice what they are in this
vicinity. Moth land and building.
Mayor Ferre: So .if this building were, for ext-unple, in that particular
neighborhood, that same building, on that same property, just transfer
it over, would be worth twice.
Mr. Slack: Roughly yes, in that neighborhood the land value would be
probably a little more than double, and the building value would be less
than double but in that range.
Mayor Ferre: I know that your is a science and not an art and I
realize that you have to go by exact things. But in effect, aren't we
penalizing this community, in the vary same thought of logic as red lining?
In other words, for the very same recls011 that savings and loans red line
and don't want to lend in certain communities, aren't we in effect, doing
the very same thing here? Society, not we the City, or we the appraising
community.
Mr. Slack: Perhaps so. it's a problem which has confronted the appraisal
business; an a national level. 111tcr:c have been congressional hearings on
matters of this sort and so on. The .issues have not been resolved.
There have been bills introduced into Congress attempting to resolve
this particular problem and it: ha:; not been resolved to anybody's
satisfaction. What you say .is quite true that where the property i:+
located adversely a.fft',,crts the price that it receives.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Slack, as a good Democrat# I want to thank a very
staunch and yood repulican for many years for making your statement.
Mr. Slack: Weil it was a non -partisan statement. Besides, I reregistered
Independent:, Mr.. Mayor, but thank you for your comment.
Mayor Ferre: Is that right. Ted, I remember talking to you the first
time, it's got to be twenty years I ago, I don't think I've ever met
a stronger Republican than...
Mr. Slack: Wel.l, among other things we can thank Mr. Nixon for was my
reregist.ration.
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Father Gibson: Mr. Mayor, let me put this in the record. I think I have
a feel for what you're saying. Last year my tax, well, my house was
assessed thirty some odd thousand dollars. And this, when I got my tax
statement about two or three days ago, it went up to fifty some odd
thousand dollars. And I wonder., Mr. Mayor, this might be just contrary.
I live in an area that was somewhat affected. And instead of my taxes
going down I went from thirty to fifty. From thirty odd thousand to
fifty odd thousand dollars. I just wonder. I raised that as a
problem in this instance.
Mr. Slack: I'm glad I'm not the tax assessor, Father Gibson, because
I'd be hard pressed to answer that question, I think, but...
Mayor Ferre: Well I'm glad you're not the tax assessor too, Mr. Slack.
Mr. Slack: Anyone else have any questions?
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Mayor Ferre: All right, any further questiot:z� of Mr. Slack? Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Where are we?
Mayor Ferre: I don't know.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Fosmoen.
Mr. Fosmoen: 'There are about three things at play that I think the City
Commission needs to be made aware of. First of all, our acquisition
procedures when we use community development dollars are, in fact,
perscribed to us by the Federal government. There is something called
the Uniform Acquisition Law. It spells out procedures and we cannot
pay more than a certain number of dollars based on two appraisals. In
fact, we could go out and get a third appraisal. .if we wanted to, however,
time prohibits us from doing that. I understand the corporation has a
very serious time constraint, that's one.
Mayor Ferro: Are you telling me that Federal law precludes us from doing
this?
Mr, rosmocn: All I'm telling you is that if we pay more than sixty-five
thousand dollars that we will have to do it from some other source, other
than CD block grant funds. 'That's point one. Point two, if we try and
use CD block grant funds for this purpose, we will in all likelihood
have an audit exception and we'll have to pay those funds back. Point
three, over the six years of the Community Development Program, we have
set aside approximately ten million dollars for land acquisition. Now,
if we applied this same theory of l.ocational value to all of the properties
that we acquire with ten million dollars, we're going to have some very
serious problems.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you've given me all the negatives. Now give me a
positive. Now do we do it?
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Fosmoen...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, did you hear my question?
Mr. Fosmoen: Give you a positive?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Mr. Fosmoen: We have a willing seller under a friendly condemnation
suit. There are certain advantages to that seller in terms of
reinvestment of dollars that -are received for sale of property through
condemnation. That's one positive. If we were to follow our normal
procedure, we would at this point go to court, and this whole process
would be very protracted. That's why we have been able to increase the
offer from fifty-five thousand to sixty-five thousand because we are in
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Mr. Fosmoen (continued): fact, avoiding protracted litigation, and
attorney's fees. The real value of the property, Commissioner, based
on appraisal was less than fifty-five thousand dollars. We've been
able to increase that in order to avoid protracted litigation. Now
I understand that the corporation would like to receive more money for
the property but there is simply no way that we can pay them more money
for the property. If there's another purpose for which they need
additional funding, then perhaps we need to talk about that as a
seperate issue.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. Under your procedures
for condemnation, is it possible that we can give them the sixty-five
• thousand for that figure, and then give them an additions fund from
CD for something else? Acquisition?
Mr. Fosmoen: It depends what they want to do with it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we know what they want to do,
Mr. Fosmoen: You mean acquire the other property.
Mr. Plummer: Right. Can you give them sixty-five for condemnation,
and twenty-five, or whatever the other figure is, for acquisition?
Mr. Fosmoen: Commissioner, in very general terms, because I have not
seen a written proposal. I've talked in general terms with the
corporation. If that's what the Conunission wishes to acheive, it is
possible to enter into a contract with the Sixty -Second Street Development
Corporation, where they would begin to perform services for you, including
the acquisition, rehabilitation and maintenance of a property somewhere
else, which would be tied into this acquisition as well.
Mayor Ferre: Good for you, Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Well but Mr. Mayor, what I' m saying is, and I hope the
record will reflect, Mr. Fosmoen, this isn't necessarily what the
Commission wants this is what: tho people want. And the thing that I
keep driving across to this Commission is that CD sometimes tends to
forget what the people want. And I'm not going to try rub salt in an
old wound, but the people have come herd through their representatives,
and said this is what they want. And I think this Commission would be
hard pressed to deny the rights of the people and their requests,
Mayor Ferre: One way or the other, lets move on.
Mr. Plummer: fir.. Mayor, I move that the latter proposal be thoroughly
studied and if possible, that We approve it.
Father. Gibson: Second .
Mayor Ferrer All right, therf;' s a motion and a second, and that is
that we acquire the property for sixty-five thousand dollars and that
we look for ways through contractual obligations with a non-profit
corporation, namely Sixty -Second Street: Development Corporation, to
contract with them for the purpose of purchasing and rehabilitating
another building on SLxt:y-Second Street and Seventh?
Mrs. Range: 7' think I have to make something very clear here because
I certainly do not wish to have you laboring under the wrong impression.
When we came to thf: Coirunission at the outset, we were of the opinion
because of other properties in the area, because of what it would cost
to build a building .in that particular area today, you see, our
property only decrease in value after they are built in the DMZ, is
that what you call it?
Mayor Ferre: I didn't call it that.
Mrs. Range: Wellthat's what it is for all intents and purposes. Our
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Mrs. Range (continued): properties only decrease after they are built
in this given area. But during the process of building and completion,
it costs just as much to build a building on Sixty-second Street as it
cost to build a comparable building any place else. Buildings today
are costing in the neighborhood of between thirty-five to fifty dollars
per square foot, I believe it. is. So, when we came to you asking for
your interest in the sale of tiie buildings we figured if you were going
to have to build a building there on that particular area, that it would
cost in the neighborhood, of the same size, it would cost in the
neighborhood of one hundred fifty, to one hundred seventy thousand
dollars. And of course, that is what we were basing our feelings on
then. At that point, we could have acquired the building of which
Mr. Fosmoen now speaks. We could have acquired interest in that building.
Nevertheless, because of the delay and the difference in price, so much
so, we've had to disband that idea. But just listen to me a little
further Commissioners and Mayor. In the meantime, the riots conditions
of Sixty -Second Street and Liberty City became a way of life, all of
black Miami. And now, we have come with a completely different idea.
As each of us know, the President of the United States came to our
City, many, many meetings have been held, and there has been much
discussion about what is going to be done for the black people and that
area. Nevertheless, more than three months now, I believe, have passed
and really everything is still. on the drawing board. Nothing really
that affects the man on the street has been done to improve our way of
life out there. Unemployment is just as great as it has ever been.
So, we came up with the idea that this Shell City site which is under
contract, or will. be under contract for a permanent situation in years
to come, but right now is still. a waste land, we came up with the idea
of an open air market because it is so needed there. Any of you who
have taken the time to go to Liberty City know that the area is still
devastated.That you don't, you havo nothing but the "Mom and Pop"
grocery stores, nothing else. Consequently, we intend to utilize these
funds to employ at least three hundred people out there who are unemployed
now in an open air market. Dade County has been good enough to give us
the land for a dollar a year. We need monies to get this project
underway. Everybody, officials and everybody else to whom we have
spoken thinks it's a good idea. Ms. Dena Spillman told me the other
day, that take this and maybe you could go somewhere and ask somebody.
We are tired of begging, Mr. Mayor. We have a saleable item, we do not
intend to just walk away and do nothing. We are going to do what the
Federal government, what local. government has promised to do for us and
none of them have really done it yet. And I'm saying that everybody
isn't trying. But if we get this money, an appreciable amount of money,
we can go on our own, get this market started, and I guarantee you,
this will be the biggest success that Miami has seen in some time for
that area because we have absolutely nothing there now and everybody is
Just waiting. We have applications already for entrepreneurs who want
to come and be a part of this. Arid, you know, that's my story. And I
wanted you to know that.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Range, you and T talked on Thursday, I think, and
on Thursday when we were talking, we were talking about going from the
sixty-five trying to get: that as close to a hundred as possible for the
purposes of buying this building on Sixty -Second Street and Seventh
Avenue. You never told me that that money wasn't going to be used for
that.
Mrs. Range: Mr. Mayor, I'm afraid that there was some misunderstanding
there.
Mayor Ferre; I'll say.
Mrs. Range: Bernie and I, who talked with you, Dena Spillman knew it.
I don't know how it: did not pass you, but I think that everybody is
aware.
Mayor Ferre: Well I apologize to you but, with all due respects to you,
I cannot vote for this. I'm sorry. I can vote for the sixty-five
thousand dollars. And if that money were going itlto the purchase of that
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Mayor Ferre (continued): building, I would have absolutely no hesitation
at all. But I'm sorry, I really need to review this and sit down, this
is brand new to me. It is just, it's off the top of the table right now
and I just haven't had time to even think about it. I don't even know
what this is all about. Now...
Mrs. Range: Well, I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry. I'm perfectly willing to come back on the 25th
after we've talked, after the Commission has had the opportunity to see
exactly what these monies are going to be used for, to reconsider and
perhaps make a twenty-five thousand dollar grant from CD funds. But
certainly I think that requires, you know, discussion and I think each
'member of this Commission should be fully informed as to exactly that
money is going to be used and for what purpose and what have you. I
just, frankly, and again, with all due respects to you. You know how
much I admire and respect you, but certainly I don't think you'd want
me to vote on something that I just, I'm just beginning to understand
in the last ten minutes.
Mrs. Range: No, that's quite true, Mr. Mayor, that is why I took the
opportunity to explain it again here. I would not have you vote out
of ignorance on something that you knew absolutely nothing about. And
even if the Commission decides not to buy our building, fine. I'm telling
you what the actual purpose is, I'm telling you what we've run into. I've
discussed this with Dena Spillman, and of course, as you say, it was not
clear to you and I have to abide by that. If you say it was not clear,
I thought we made it clear but...
Mayor Ferre: I appreciate your really being up front on that. And certainly,
what I would like to do and recommend, is to have the administration
study this matter in the next week, and perhaps reschedule it for the tenth.
And in the meantime, Mrs. Range, I would like to ask that Bernie Dyer visit
with each member of the Commission and explain exactly how that money is
going to be used and for what purposes. And we'll discuss it again
on the 25th, In the meantime, I think we can pass item sixty-four as it's
before us.
Mrs. Range: Are you going to be passing the item to purchase at the
present price?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, ma'am. And then we'll talk about the twenty-five
thousand dollars,which is an unrelated item, but hopefully for the purposes
that you outlined.
Mrs. Range: Mr. Mayor, let me say this to you. I really appreciate the
offer of the twenty-five thousand dollars possibly from other funds, but
let me tell you how I feel. I really feel that we'll just take whatever
the price is and we'll scrounge around and get it. I tell you, I told
Dena Spillman, I'm telling everybody here within the sound of my voice,
we're not going to come begging for anything else. If the building
is only worth sixty-five thousand dollars, if you cannot take into
consideration that if it were in your backyard it would be worth more,
since it's in our backyard you want to give us the sixty-five thousand
dollars for it, we'll get out and scrounge for the rest. We're not
coming down here with our hands out to you any more. I told Dena this and
I mean it. I speak for my committee. And we don't want anything you're
going to to give us. You know, say here, here's some more crumbs. We
don't want that. We'll take the sixty-five and thank you very much.
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, let me ask the Manager a moment. Dick, what your
concern is, that if we go pp to ninety thousand dollars, this will be
in excess of the two appraisals that you have secured so far...
Mr. Fosmoen: That's correct.
Mr. Lacasa: ...and that the Federal government could come back to us
and request that we reimburse the CD grant by the amount in excess of this
money. That's basically the concern.
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Mr. Fosmoen: That's one concern, Commissioner. But my major concern
is the kind of arbitrary precedent that that would set. We have two
appraisals on the property. And, you know, what do we do the next time
someone comes in and we were condemning a piece of property, do we negotiate
that also? I thin it's a very dangerous precedent to set. Now, what
I would recommend is if we proceed to act on this resolution for the
acquisition through a friendly condemnation, Howard Gary tells me that
we are ready to do rehabilitation work in that building to start providing
recreation service, in -door recreation services in that community. We're
ready to move. If there is a project that Mrs. Range and the Sixty -Second
Street Development Corporation needs additional funding for, let us sit
down with them, look at the project, look at the program, the budget, and
look at other funding alternatives rather than arbitrarily increasing
the purchase price on a building we have two appraisals for.
Mr. Plummer: Is there any monies, Dena, where are we with the CD year?
Mr. Fosmoen: You're only part way into it, Commissioner. Our spending
rate, overall, during the six year period is about sixty percent of the
funds, okay? So there are monies that can be reprogrammed in Model
Cities but it will then go back to your citizen participation procedure.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, check with a committee that doesn't exist.
Mr. Fosmoen: The committee will exist within a very short period of time.
Mr. Plummer: I mean, is there twenty-five or thirty-five thousand dollars
in there that can be reprograiimied?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, it can be reprogrammed, Commissioner. But we need to
sit down with the corporation and Find out what they've got in mind to
use it for, and how we can contrac:tually...
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that, I have no problem with that.
I don't think Mrs. Range has any problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what is the will of this Commission on item
sixty-four?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved.
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Its been seconded. Is there further discussion? All right,
call the roll please.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-638
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING 'I`HE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE
IN LIEU OF CONDEMNATION, THREE LOTS BEING ZONED
BOULEVARD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH
SIDE OF MARTIN LUTHER KIND BOULEVARD (NORTHWEST 62nd
STREET) BETWEEN 14TH AND 15TH AVENUES, N.W. MIAMI,
FLORIDA, SAID SUBJECT LAND COMPRISED OF 7,500 SQUARE
FEET, MORE OR LESS, IMPROVED WITH A ONE-STORY
COMMERCIAL BUILDING, FOR THE SUM OF SIXTY-FIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS (65,000), AND ALLOCATING SIXTY-SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($67,000) FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS
TO COVER THE COST OF ACQUISITION OF FEE SIMPLE TITLE
TO THIS PROPERTY AND OTHER COSTS INCIDENTAL TO THE
ACQUISITION; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
REHABILITATE SAID ONE-STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND
ALLOCATING UP TO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ($50,000) FROM
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
REHABILITATING SUBJECT STRUCTURE
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
'NOES; None
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mrs. Range, we...
Mr. Plummer: NO, no, no. Please hold it. Mr. Fosmoen, I assume you
want a motion?
Mr. Fosmoen: I don't need one. We'll meet with Mrs. Range as quickly
as possible.
Mayor Ferre: All right, would you call Mr. Dyer then, and meet with Mr.
Dyer so that we can...
Mrs. Range: We'll just accept the sixty-five, and one of these days the
City Commission is going to be very proud that we were able to take
that and do the best we could and get our monies elswhere. We just don't
what this project to be something that somebody has given us. We thought
we thought we had a saleable building that would have been worth more than
it is. But since it is the pleasure of this Commission to do this with,
we need our monies, we would like to get our market place open before
the Thanksgiving Holiday and we don't want anything to hold it up.
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Range, that's done. You already have sixty-five thousand.
Mrs. Range: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Dyer, would you please call up Mr. Fosmoen and arrange
for an appointment so that we could discuss a twenty-five thousand dollar
CD .funding for the project that you have in mind. Okay?
Mrs. Range: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I thank all of you.
29(.a) PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ALVIN GOODMAN
APPOINTMLNT AS CITY REPRESENTATIVE SOUTH
KOREAN BOXING CONFERENCE
Mayor Ferre: Now, we're back to the regular agenda, I assume, unless
somebody else...All right, 30A.
Mr. Alvin Goodman: Mr. Mayor, my name is Alvin Goodman. I am presently
a member of the Miami Boxing Commission. The Board has been disbanded
today. I've been going to the conventions for the WBA which is the
World Boxing Association which I have been a member, and also a member
of the legislative committee of the same. I am further representing the
City of Miami, mostly at my own expense at these commissions, at these
world boxing conventions for the last fifteen years. At one time prior
to the meeting, I'm going -to make this very bri,ed, I understand it was
going to be abolished and I wrote a letter to each one of the Commissioners
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Mr. Goodman (continued): sitting at that particular time, and it was
indicated to me that it wasn't going to be abolished. Now I understand
it's been somewhat differently structured, which I have no objection
with. I understand there's been a submission of names to reduce the
Boxing Association, or the commission to five members. I am presently
the Chairman of the! Boxing Commission. I'd like to remain the Chairman
of the Boxing Commission, or remain a member of the Boxing Commission.
I understand, by having a conversation with Mr. Howard, that the
Boxing Commission now is supposed to be a good cross-section of everyone
in the community.
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
'Mr. Goodman: I believe that you have some names submitted to you for that
Mr. Mayor. So I'd just like to move the ordinance and I am already
scheduled to go to Korea on the 18th of this month, I'm leaving for
Korea for the Boxing Convention which I am going to represent the City
of Miami at my own expense. I've been going to these conventions at my
own expensefor the last five,or six, or seven years. Mr. Mayor, you
may have remember, sending me a commendation letter for doing so. And
I keep Miami in the .limelight. I'd like to mention just one other thing.
That I have great respect for some of the big promoters, which we can get
down here in the City of Miami., Bob Aram, Don King, Mohammed Ali, they
have all wanted to come down here. All we need is an active working
Commission. That's what I want to create.
Mayor Ferro: All right, Doctor, let me just, this is nothing to do with
you and it's nothing to do with professional boxing. It has to do with
the City Administration, and it has to do with Mr. Cesear Odio, and it
has to do with Mr. Al Howard, and it has to do with Elizabeth Virrick and
Virrick Gym. And as you recall., when this matter came up three months
ago, I said I'm all for you but you solve the, there are a lot of kids
in Little Havana and there are a lot of kids in the Grove that are not
getting the proper opportunity, right now, to get training as amateur
boxers and compete in Golden Gloves, and it's a good, clean, healthy
sport for kids to get involved in. We're not doing our job. And the
fact is, that we really haven't been doing our job for the last three
years, in my opinion. And so I said to you, you solve that one and then
I'll go along with you on that one. Now tell me that you've
solved it.
Mr. Fosmoen: We are interviewing, as I understand, we are interviewing
three people this week for the head coach position with the amateur
program. The Commission may be interested to know that we have hired
Kid Oavilan for those of ,you who watch Friday night fights about
fifteen or eighteen years ago...
Mayor Ferre: I saw him on television over the weekend, and I was very
happy to find out on the television tube that the City of Miami had
retained Kid Cavilan, Mr. Howard.
Mr. Plummer: We have?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: I was very happy that the news media covered it and I was
properly informed through the news media that the City of Miami had
retained the services of, what. I think is an outstanding athelete, and
I congratulate you for it. Now where is he, and what is he doing?
Mr. Howard: lie's working out of Moore Park now, and we are establishing,
as came out of the last meeting, a boxing organization over in
Shennandoah Park which would be handled, which would be put on for the
latins to bring them into Virrick Park. It will be a satellite. So
we'll have two satellite's, Moore and Shennendoah. Besides Kid Gavilan,
we have made moves, as requested from our previous staff out of Virrick
Gym and moved them over to'i-toore Park. We have recently met with
Mrs. Virrick, she's very excited about the way things are going. The
program has picked up again. There has been some improvements on it. The
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Mr. Howard (continued): gym is completely done, now. The roof has been
repaird, its been painted inside, the ring has been moved, everything
has been set up. Mrs. virrick is excited about the people we are
interviewing. She has been sitting in on the interviews. I think we're
headed in the right direction. The problem here is we're getting a lot
of people now in to sponsor professional fights. we don't have a bonifide
commission. And in order to get Miami back again, the two of them are
really separate, but we have done...
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, yeah, I know. They're separate but I heard this story,
you know, I sound like Plummer or like Carollo. I've heard this story
before 4nd I want to make sure now because I'm learning from them, okay?
'They're separate, but they're not separate. You get me that coach to
teach those kids how to box and you've got yourself a professional boxing
commission. Okay? And I'll tell you, my vote is contingent that this
boxing commission, this ordinance does not go into affect until that
guy is hired. When you hire him, that's the day this ordinance goes
into effect. So you hurry up and hire him.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I agree with what you're saying. You have my
backing on that. The only other thing that I would like to add, so when
and if this happens, I could approve this whole-heartedly, is that
instead of playing marry -go -round and the five members of the board
being appointed by a majority of this Commission so like Reverend Gibson
said everybody would have their representative there, that each
member of this Commission appoints one individual. Is there any problem
with that?
Mayor Ferre: Do you have any problem with that?
Mr. Carollo: When you're in the river with no paddle, or no boat,
you've got to swim or drown.
Mayor Ferre: Well I'll tell you, you've been doing a lot of swimming
lately, I'll tell you.
Mr. Goodman: May I ask this Commission this? As I've said in the past,
I don't know whether the Commission has been abolished or not, I mean,
the past Commission which I had been on...
Mr. Plummer: It's sunsetting.
Mr. Goodman: It's sunsetting. I'm leaving for Korea on the 18th. Now
do I go to Korea on the 18th representing Miami, the City of Miami? I've
already got my tickets, I've already got my money sent down there to the
hotel, and I don't want to misrepresent anything to these people at the
convention.
Mayor Ferre: No, no. Doctor, lets do it this way. I cannot speak for
anybody here but myself. But you go on, since there is no commission
constituted at this point, and since you were on the former commission,
and the chairperson, I don't think that there would be anything wrong with
your saying that you're now...
Mr. Plummer: Let me do it better than that.
Mayor Ferre: Whether or not you're on that Commission when you come
back, that's something else.
Mr. Lacasa: Why don't we do it in a formal way...
Mr. Plummer. That's it.
Mr. Lacasa: ..and we appoint the Doctor officiall, here by an act
of the Commission now to represent the City of Miami in that particular
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Mr. Lacasa (continued ): event?
Mr. Plummer: That's the way to do it.
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: And it's tax deductible.
Mr. Lacasa: I move so.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, Lacasa moves that Doctor Goodman be the representative
of the City in Korea, Korea, is that where ?t is?
�Mr. Goodman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Now, South Korea. You'd better be careful.
Mr. Goodman: South Korea. Seoul. At my own expense.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's part of thenotion.
Mayor Ferre: Its been moved and seconded. Is there further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 80-639
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OFFICIALLY APPOINTING
DR. ALVIN GOODMAN AS THE CITY OF MIAMI REPRESENTATIVE
AT A CONFERENCE ON BOXING TO BE HELD IN SOUTH KOREA
ON SEPTEMBER 18, 1980, SUCH TRIP TO BE AT HIS OWN
EXPENSE
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following votes
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
29 (b) FIRST NID S.^.CO►!D READ114G ORDINkNCE: RESTRUCTURE BOXING ADTD
WRESTLING BOARD, FTC.
Mayor Ferre: Now on ordinance 30 (a), is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Well I thought that was being deferred.
Mayor Ferre: No, no. I don't mind voting on it, J. L., with the stipulation
that this ordinance does not go into effect until that guy is hired.
Mr. Howard: Possibly by the 25th we may have him hired because we're
finishing our interviews...
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Mayor Ferre: Wonderful. This will be an incentive for you to hire him.
Mr. Plummer: Move thirty-eight.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: There is a second with the inclusion of what I stated, that
each member is appointed, one by each member of the Commission.
Mayor Ferre: All right, then you have to amend the ordinance to say
that each member of this Commission has one appointment on that professional
commission, or whatever it's called.
'Mr. Plummer: Are ... I have no problem with that but are we re-establishing
the policy that the majority of the Commission rules? I'm happy to hear
it but I want to make sure I understand correctly.
Mr. Carollo: I just want to make sure that minorities have rights too.
Mayor Ferre: I think what it means is, particularly that in the Boxing
and Wrestling Board each member of this Commission shall have one
appointment. Period. That's what it says. Now with that stipulation
and with the previous one, do you accept that as the mover of the
motion?
Mr. Plummer: I've got no problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED --
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 5-47 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY RESTRUCTURING THE BOXING
AND WRESTLING BOARD BY DECREASING THE NUMBER OF
MEMBERS OF SAID BOARD FROM 8 TO 5 AND ONE (1) SECRETARY -
TREASURER, ALL OF SAID INDIVIDUALS TO BE APPOINTED
BY THE CITY COMMISSION FOR TERMS OF 2 YEARS; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE BOARD TO ESTABLISH RULES AND
REGULATIONS TO GOVERN LICENSES AND FEES THEREOF AND
TO RECOMMEND COMPENSATION TO THE APPOINTED SECRETARY -
TREASURER; SAID COMPENSATION TO BE APPROVED BY THE
CITY COMMISSION; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT
OF READING SA,XE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT
LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Carollo for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City
Charter dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate
days by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the
City Commission:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and
seconded by Commissioner Carollo, adopted said ordinance by the following
vote:
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AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9154
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
,announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
30. DEFERRNL OF CO`aSIDERATION - BURGLARY AND R000 nRY ALA.;V1 0.rnINANCE
Mr, PIummer: Mr. Mayor., can I save the honorable members of the police
Department a little time? I would like to defer item twenty-four.
Mayor Ferre: Why didn't you do that earlier in the day so you wouldn't
have them wait here all day?
Mr. Plummer: I didn't realize we were going to go on that long. We love
to see them here...
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager, can that item wait until the
twenty -Fifth or not?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, it can.
Mayor Ferre: We have a hand over there. You can't wait?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mr. Fosmoen: On the alarm system? Yes, it can wait. They're asking for
an effective date the first of the year anyway, Commissioner. Yes,
we can defer it until the twenty-fifth, if we can put it on for first
and second reading. I'll have members of the Police Department meet
with the Commissioner to find out what his problems are.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. I have no problem with that. I move that twenty-four
be deferred.
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there's a motion and a second. Lieutenant,
do you have any problem? I guess not, call the roll.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 24 to the Commission meeting of
September 25, 1980 was introduced by
commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner
Lacasa, and was passed and adopted by unanimous
vote.
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31. AWARD CONCESSIODIS-CITY PARKS - !?OBILw FOOD F,;D EEVE'2AGF OPr'iATIOMS
TO LEMON TREE ICES; CARLOS PASCUA.L, INC. AND TOM BOCCIO
Mayor Ferre: Now, we're on item thirty-three. Is that the next one?
Go ahead. Now this item was held up before, wasn't it?
Mr. Carollo: That's correct. The reason it was held up because it was
the sole bidder out of so many bid invitations that were sent out. From
what I've been able to find out, up to now, I'm satisfied with what I've
seen up to now.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a motion. It has the recommendation
of the administration?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Its been moved. Is there a second?
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a second. Further discussion? Call
the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-640
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID PROPOSAL OF LEMON TREE
ICES FOR DAVID KENNEDY PARK; CARLOS PASCUAL, INC. FOR
GRAPELAND PARK; AND TOM BOCCIO FOR PEACOCK AND
BAYFRONT PARKS FOR MOBILE FOOD AND BEVERAGE
OPERATIONS AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE STANDARD CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH EACH,
RESPECTIVELY
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
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32. DEFERRAL, OF CONSIDi:RATION -- CL!IM SrTTLur".EDIT:
SIGHWIG SWO AND AVA SIr..U0
Mayor Ferrn: All right, thirty -Lour.
Mr.. Carollo: I'd like to defer. that,Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: 'Phere's a motion that item thirty-four be deferred. Is
there a' second?
Mr.. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor. Ferve: Second. is there...does that cause any problems, Mr. City
At t.orney•?
mr. Knox: HcU, sir.'.
Mayor Fore: Call. the -roll.
THEKEUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 34 was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, and se-1conded by Commissioner Lacasa,
and was passed and adopteel by the following
vr. L- it :
Ayes; CopvnLssinner joL, Carollo
V ice-Dlavor Armando Lacasa
Mayor .1aur. ice A. Ferre
Noes: None
AItSINT: J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
33. `V1T1;W.JS!F CITY iIA"AGER TO SELL TO FLORIDA POFt!-:.n. & LIGIMT COIAPA*,!Y
15 ,CV U"IUtiRGP.OUND FACILITIES - DINMER KEY ArLEA
Mayor Fer.re: okay, take up item foi.ty-one, authorizing the Manager
to sell. to Lhe Florida Power & Light Company the 15 KV underground
facilities presently servi.n9 Dinner Keyr and granting a ten foot wide
easement of said facilities. The Manager recommends. Mr. Manager.
Mr. Lacasa: It's moved. I second that.
Mayor Ferre: Forty-onc:. It's been moved and seconded. Do you recommend?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, .it permits us to tear that building down.
Mayor Ferre: Any problems?
UNIDENTIFIFr) SPEAKER: No, we are just representing the company. If you
have: any que,,tions, we're here.
Mayor Pezre: Further disrussion? Call the role on item forty-one.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-641
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SELL TO
THE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY THE 15KV UNDER-
GROUND FACILITIES PRESENTLY SERVING THE DINNER KEY
AREA; AND GRANTING A 10-FCOT WIDE EASEMENT TO SAID
FACILITIES CONTINGENT UPON THE CITY'S CONTINUED USE
OF THE DINNER KEY AREA FOR ITS PRESENT PURPOSES
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
34. ACCEPT BID - MO1'OROLA C S E - FOR 14 RADIO BASE STATIONS
Mayor Ferre: Item forty-seven. This is...
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer. Is there a second?
Mr. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Lacasa. Further discussion on forty-seven?
The Manager recommends. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-&42
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MOTOROLA C & E, INC.
FOR FURNISHING 14 RADIO BASE ST&TIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MA:NTENANCE AT A TOTAL COST
OF $49,097.16; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1979-80 CAPITAL
EQUIPMENT BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE
MANAGER AND THE VURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE
ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT
(Here follow:.; body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
35. WATVE FOR,',;t1L BIDDING PROCEDUR. S - COl1PUT!,R SOT"11.7 E PACKINGE
AU'.THORI21' PUPCH,AS1] FROM JACKSONVILLE SOF'V,1AR2 SYSTEMS, I'iC.;
FOP. ".10. r,;:P?:?'i'11E!4'r OF C011PUTERS AMD COMV. NICATIONS
Mayor Ferre: Fifty ... come on up. waiving the requirements for
formal sealed bids for furnishing a computer software package for the
Depirtmrnt of Computers; authorizing the purchase from Jacksonville
Software Systems, the only, licenses, marketing agent at a cost of
eighty-five hundred d(illars. The Manager recommends.
Mr. Plummer., Move it.
Pir. Lacasa: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Mavec9 by Plummer, second by Lacasa. Further discussion?
Call. the roll en item fifty.
i% SOLUTION NO. 80-643
A I:.I;SO1 U i'IUP� WATV LNG '111E rt ,QUI12EMENT FOR FORMAL SEALED
P.ID,, .FOR FUF�LN ISHINc., A COMPUTER SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTPRbS AND COMMUNICATIONS; AUTHORIZING
THE PURCHASE FBOM JACKSONVILLE SOFTWARE SYSTEMS, INC.
THE. ONLY LICENJE.'D MARKETING AGENT; AT A TOTAL COST OF
$8,500,00; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES
EY79011; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING
AGENT TO ISS[IF THE PURCHASY' OPDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT
(Here follow; body of revolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk) .
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Couuni.ssioner Joe Carollo
Flee -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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36. APPOINT COMMISSIONER LACASA TO TdE SOV' D OF DIREECTORS OF
t4IAI1I CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, INC.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item fifty-four., appointing members of the City
Commission to the Hoard of Directors of the Miami Capital Development, Inc.
All right, whose the victim?
Mr. Fosmoen: One member.
Mayor Ferre: What?
Mr. Fosmoen: One member, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Who volunteers? Do you have a recommendation?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Ferre: I bet you don't.
Mr. Carollo: Draw lots.
Mayor Ferre: Who se the victim? C'mon, we have a volunteer on this.
C'mon. This is a very important operation and it's going to be very
succ... it already is highly successful. It is...
Mr. Plummer: I move the name of Mr.Lacasa. Anything important he should
be in charge of.
Mayor Ferre: It is, all right, Plummer moves Lacasa, Gibson seconds.
Further discussion on item fifty-four? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-644
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION
TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT,
INC.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of. the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice-'iayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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37. APPOINT COMMISSIONER LACASA TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRADE AND
COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT AT A UORKIMG TRADE MISSION IM SPAIN
Mayor Ferre: All right, item fifty-three. Take up item fifty-three. The
Chamber of Commerce has requested that the City of Miami have an official
representative on this trip, which I think is a highly important trip
for this community. If the Chamber of Commerce is taking a group of
people to France, England and Spain.
Mr. Plummer: I move the name of Mr. Lacasa.
Mayor. Ferre: Is there a second?
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Gibson. Call the roll.
The fol.lowing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-645
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION
AS OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE.
DEPARTMENT OF TRADE AND COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT AT A
WORKING TRADE MISSION IN SPAIN, FROM NOVEMBER 7-16, 1980,
SUBJECT TO THE AVATLABILITY OF FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT
EXCEEDING $2,850 TO BE ALLOCATED FROM THE 1980-81 BUDGET
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRADE AND COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file .in the Office of the City Clerk) .
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Corn:nissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
APPROVE CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONP.L SERVICES FOR %PPPAI5",L
313. OF !1A"!AGE11ELVT AGREEMENT FOR DITHER KEY ?1LILRINA TO ;1.A.I.
APPP'1ISj7'R F. FOERT QUINLIVAN
Mayor Ferre: All. right, sixty-five (a). All right, come on up. Are you
on sixty-five (a)?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Right.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yos.
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Mr. Fosmoen: You know that this issue was taken to court on the two bids.
Maybe Mr. Knox can give you an update on the court decison. This is item
is in response to the position of the judge.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, we lost and we have to get another appraisal. It's
that simple. So, these are people you recommend?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, these were next in line.
Mr. Ernie Senatore: Okay, Mr. Mayor. I just want to make two points.
One thing is why was the City...
'Mrs. Hirai: Your name and address, for the record, please.
Mr. Senatore: Okay. I'm Ernie Senatore, 3400 Pan American Drive.
Mr. Plummer: Representing?
Mr. Senatore: The Miami Marina's Association. I'm President of the
Miami Marina's Association.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, Mr. Senatore, go ahead.
Mr. Senatore: Yes, sir. Why was the...
Mayor Ferre: Sixty-five (a).
Mr. Senatore: This is item sixty-five (a). We were wonderinq, there are
several questions I'd have to ask, why is the City unwilling to renegotiate
with Biscayne Recreation to obtain the changes necessary to, you know,
using Peat Marwicks and Mitchell's appraisal.
Mayor Ferre: We're going to get another appriaisal.
Mr. Senatore: Okay. The other question comes down to, why are we
obtaining an MAI type appriasal instead of a CPA type appraisal when
the Mayor, yourself, suggested earlier that you had wanted one of each
type, and I believe that's what you said the last time it went through?
Mayor Ferre: Well, I think the answer to that is that these were the
next people that were on the hit list. We went and selected the first
tow, and now we're selecting the next. It's that simple.
Mr. Senatore: Well I think that if you remember, Mr. Mayor, ,you indicated
to us...
Mayor Ferre: I remember. I remember the discussion with Plummer. I
understand. I've got no problems as to whether it's one way or the
other. An MIA is just as acceptable as a CPA in this type of an
appraisal.
Mr. Senatore: Well we'd like to have you go back to the CPA firm again.
You're using the national firm of Peat Marwick and Mitchell for your
own accounting. Mr. Gary suggested it was a good deal.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, that' fine.
Mr. Senatore: My question is how come we're not going back to a CPA
type of thing? Is it possible to change it to a CPA type of appraisal?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir..
Mr. Fosmoen: He's right. there were two lists. The next CPA firm in line
wants eighteen thousand dollars for the appraisal. Mr. Quinlivan's
fee is five thousand.
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Mayor Ferre: Any further statements you want to make?
Mr. Plummer: Well are we throwing out both proposals?
Mr. Senatore: No, sir. I think the first one...
Mr. Plummer% You don't work for me, sir. Are we throwing out both
prop...I mean, you know...
Mr. Fosmoen: Both appraisals?
Mr. Plwmner: or are we just going to continue to go back and get more,
more, until we find one that's acceptable?
Mr. Fosmoen: No, what the court ruled was either make Peat Marwick
happy by renegotiating the contract, and Biscayne Recreation is not
willing to do that, or go get a third appraisal.
Mayor Ferre: We're going to get that third appraisal. And if the
appraisal isn't any better, then we're going to have to go back and
renegotiate. And if we don't do that, we're going to start all over again.
Mr. Plummer: Well the obvious question has to be► has the first, which
cost no money, been tried?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes, sir. We did meet with representatives of Peat Marwick,
we did attempt to come to some understanding, but what they're
reconunending in terms of making them happy, if I can use that phrase, is
not: acceptable to Biscayne Recreation. Now I could tell you exactly
what that is. They want to eliminate the bottom line split between
Biscayne Recreation and the City. They want to eliminate any profit to
Biscayne Recreation which is represented by a bottom line split of up to
one hundred thousand dollars to Biscayne Recreation. And if we eliminated
that from the contract Peat Marwick and Mitchell, My opinion is Peat
Marwick and Mitchell would then be happy with the contract. But Biscayne
Recreation is not willing to do that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what's the will of this Commission?
Mr. Lacasa: Mr. Mayor, I move that we contract the professional services
of the appraiser, Quinlivan to do the appraisal on the management agreement
for Dinner Key Marina.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second.
Mr. Plummer: Does that ... I'm sorry► go for your second.
Father Gibson: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There's a second. Under discussion, go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Is there a second?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, Father Gibson seconded it. And I third it.
Mr. Plu►nmer: Mr. Knot, we, I think, I sometimes wonder. What is the law
about the appraisers competitive bill?
Mr. Knox; The consultants competitive negotiations act?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Knox: That doesn't apply to appraisals. It applies to professional,
architectural, and engineering services.
Mr. Plummer.: only?
Mr. Knox: Specifically, yes, sir.
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Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa, who
moved its adoption:
RXSOLUTION NO, 80-646
A RESOLUTION AWARDING A CONTRACT TO M.A.I. APPRAISER,
F. ROBERT QUINLIVAN, FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $5,000, USING FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM THE MARINA
IMPROVEMENT FUND, TO CONDUCT AN APPRAISAL OF THE
MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR DINNER KEY
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
;layor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ON ROLL CALL:
*Mr. Plummer: I think that the best part would be to go back and save
the five thousand, or sir, thousand dollars. Peat Marwick is pretty big,
and the City thinks so much of them that we give them a one hundred
and fifty thousand dollar audit fee, that we ought to listen to them,
consistently, not when it meets with our approval. I, of course, needless
to say, vote no.
39. CONSENT AGE11DA
Unless a member of the City Commisann wishes to remove specific
items from this portion of the agenda, i-�.e:ns 0 through 76 constitute
the Consent Agenda. These resolutions a.::: 5.olf-oxplanatory and are not
expected to require additional review or u:;.:;Cussion, Each item will
be recorded as individually numbered resolutions, adopted unanimously
by the following vote:
"...that the Consent Agenda, comprised of Items 68-76
be adopted.
Mayor Ferre: Before the vote on adopting items included in the Consent
Agenda is taken, is there anyone present who is an objector or proponent
that wishes to speak on any item in the Consent Agenda? Hearing none,
the vote on the adoption of the Consent Agenda will not be taken.
The following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Lacasa,
seconded by Commissioner Gibson and passed and adopted by the following
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo 0QMn
Commissioner (Rev.) Theodore R. Gibson S E P " 1980
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None 138
i
39.1 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK -FRANK J. IMORAN, !XC. FOR COMPUTER
POWER SUPPLY
RESOLUTION N0. 80-647
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF
FRANK J. MORAN, INC- AT A TOTAL COST OF
$140,606.20 FOR COMPUTER POALR SUPPLY-M.M.PD
AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $14,060.62
39.2 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK-PNM CORPORATION FOR LITTLE HAVANA MINI -PARK
RESOLUTION N0. 80-648
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING 7dE COMPLETED WORK OF
P.N.M. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $139,700
FOR LITTLE HAVANA MINI -PARK; AND AUTHORIZING
FINAL PAYMENT OF $13,970
39.3 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK-SANDRON CORPORATION FOR VIRRICK GYM
RESOLUTION NO. 80-649
A 'RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF SAXORON
CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $39,154.00 FOR VIRRICK
GYM - REROOFING; AND AUTHORIZING FINAL PAYMENTL OF
$3,915.40
39.4 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK-D.M.P. CORPORATION FOR SOUTHERN DRAINAGE
PROJECT, ETC.
RESOLUTION N0. 80-650
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF
D.M.P. CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF
$208,549.00 FOR SOUTHERN DRAINAGE PROJECT
E-47; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $2,157.15
39.5 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK -RECTO AND ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR COCONUT
GROVE BUSINESS AREA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT - BID "D"
RESOLUaTION NO. 80-651
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK PERFORMED
BY RECIO AND ASSOCIATES, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF
$37,784.61 FOR THE COCON-JT GROVE BUSINESS AREA
HIGH'AAY IMPROVEMENT (2ND BIDDING) - BID "D"
(LANDSCAPING); AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF
$360.59
39.6 PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED BUDGET - GUSMAN HALL AND
THE OLYMPIA BUILDING, ETC.
RESOLUTION N0. 80-652
A RESOLC.wON PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON TdE
PROPJSE > BUDGET OF GUSMAN HALL AND THE OLYMPIA
BUILDING POIR THE FISCAL YEAR CO,,%0XN'CING OCTOBER 1,
1960 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 300 1981
39.7 PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE DEPP.RTNWNT
OF OFF-STREET PARKING, ETC.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-653
A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON
THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF T.M DEPAR...Y.EN''T OF OFF.
STREET PARaNG OF THE CITY OF MIA:NS:, FLORIDA,
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR CORK":ENCING OCTOBER 1, 1980
AND ENDING SEPTch:aER 30, 1981
� g S F P i 51980
ist
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39.8 DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OBJECTIONS -COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION-GOODWIN, INC.-AVALON SANITARY
SEWERf ETC.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-654
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK. TO PUBLISH
A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY GOODWIN# INC. OF AVALON SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN AVALON SANITARY SE41ER
IMPROVIEMENT DISTRICT SR-5453-C (centerline sewer)
AND SR-5453-5 (sideline sewer)
39.9 DIRECT CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OBJECTIONS -COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION-IACOBELLI CONTRACTING-
CRESTWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, ETC.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-655
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH
A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY IACOBELLI CONTRACTING, INC. OF
CRESTWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN CRESTWOOD
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5432-C
(centerline sewer) - Bid "A"
40. W,".IVE RENTAL FEE Fon,, 0^ANGr, avIL J*:.IUARY 17, 1981 FLORIDA
INTERNATIONAL U14IVEPSITY - "0_-rVNGE BOWL NAnATN'ON
Mayor Ferre: We have Mr. Fausto Gomez. Lets see, I remember him. Fausto
B. Gomez. The Director of Governmental Relations. A very distinguished
gentleman who has done quite well since he left City Hall.
He has a smile on his face, he looks happy.
Mr. Plummer: All former aide's of the Mayor. Are you applying for
City Manager.
Mayor Ferro; Only works eight hours a day these days. All right, the
theme of it is very simple. Fausto, come to the point. You represent
FIU. FIU has something called the Orange Bowl Marathon. It brings
three thousand runners, and twenty-five thousand spectators, not.to
mention the hundreds of thousands of peoples that watch on television, and
on radio and what have you. We're now charging you twenty-five hundred
dollars and so on. And you want a waiver of that, but you're going to
pay for the insurance, the clean up fees, and the policemen, right?
Mr. Gomez: We'll Feick up all...
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Mayor Ferre: No, I don't believe it. There's really drinking going on
in the park?
Mr. Gillingham: Yeah, in the Orange Bowl they have a taste every now
and then in the a...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, the Orange Bowl is different.
Mr. Gillingham: It's a public park, There was a whole
program put together for a...the downtown park that required a beer
guard.
Mayor Ferre: What is that you want?
Mr. Gillingham: A waive of an ordinance.
Commissioner Plummer: Are you going to sell the booze?
Mr. Gillingham: Yes, it would be a...but not in the park. This is only
out in the streets
Commissioner Plummer: How much are you going to give the City?
Mr. Gillingham: We have a thirty five thousand dollar budget the
Police Department is coming up about eight thousand of that we do have
pay for this, we have giant bats that they're going for about seven
hundred dollars a piece...
Mayor Ferre: I'm going to tell you.
Commissioner Plummer: Even in the benevolence of Mr. Robbie he
gives us thirty two percent.
Mr. Gillingham: Well I'll began to give you any profit that we do make
over our expenses at thirty two percent.
Commissioner Plummer: You sound just like Mr. Robbie.
Mayor Ferre: Does anybody want to comment on this?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: How about Mr. Kunst and a Mr. what's his name, what's the
name of the other guy? Alright anything else? I guess you don't have
anybody to support that.
Mr. Gillingham: No one will support that...
Mayor Ferre: I don't know.
Mr. Gillingham: This particular ...let me say a few words more
We,have about seventh..., we have seven thousand
people that are going to show up here...
Mayor Ferre: Seven thousand people are going to be in the park drinking
right?
Mr. Gillingham: This is not that we want to take away...
I've established with the Police Department a criteria anybody under
the age that looks to be under the age of thirty years old will have an
I.D. check, anybody...
Mayor Ferre: Thirty.
Mr. Gillingham: Anybody that...well visually anyone that looks to be
under the age of thirty will have an I.D. check.
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Mayor Ferre: Oh you mean cna,:.
Mr. Cillingha-m; A--iybacCy t1*i-ilz 03 asdCd 'CC) leave...
well will be bu away.
-Mayor verrc: !(--Zjvz!t: Czl,:01,10 -ric! "LL! Out. we, re
the only guy; that; will get stopped rij.,ht7
Mr. Gillirq;ham: L -aow listen Wv ' rd. Z;oin,, zQ
Mayor Fc.,rrc . Wall bay eve-,:bocy iool" Li7tirZy 0-r U",,Jer
you said.
cil, . - I - n c', % . 1ti�'11 a 1.D. bu posCL(�
w U , v , C) t: -L: r 0 U e. 1 ... WC "Z,-o L,1: PZO�-L-66 01C pormicz;
.:YOGI the aad To'oacco Wuaz Wit"., US.
'!`hvy said yea...
Xayo-r now loo'.C, %,,,a now 6eriou-sly we f;Lt -Co gt;t or, with this
-i i!a 0 U itt I& a!v
C, U, 0 -,- L1SG, a V-, d 1"AUM S&L;;i at L*.IC
MC- GilllnjaaMl IhLre is prucecone for it. Not at the yjarjC w8 ill:u Ilot
Looze in Chu pa":,"..
IaYor r r k:.- . Oucside the pcir-K but COWUVALd in the park on Halloween,
Aghn,
0-L11CZ W,w ?alb this precadwo or nor Lhka*."Q i.,-, no way... it woLIC
1-MIZ MA 1 L MMLr ior che 1101i,.;e 'CD Coulply with t'nu law
C. -Z t1ne Lwmini6trariun is agains-t it d-:td
iz a6ainiz iL.
i L a F C-' 1: VO ::a -�hu`:L in,yb o,% �hj.L Commission that wishes to spo k
:Ln favor of t*,iis. :lorry you hic, to w,.it all afternoon to gut a no
a.A,wev but chat':, W(IQVL YOU U:U "Z-
Y."% t1lLr,: is -,)roco,C:klt. You say there is somebody
U%w) it.; oppoji-:,� ic.?
.`x- 1"'r. ""'ayor
M,Yar Ferro.- I think five: peopI.e aru appooing, it tile- %vay 'L see it.
C,*)1-,1.;si3ro.,.r C'vro . Llo; Wnir. i.:. tib,.! City AZLOV',%t�.y 6zty.,Lrjg 15 what wIII the
because there'i
if this a?pmved if nw000nL },'Ot IjUr-Z
in tt-,L! -pCirk. It's lily ra-in concurn.
NO . Durc Clark: Mr, Gillingham approached us, zhe, City Atzorney's
Office we asked him az t"r4at time to hav,r a memorandum from Chief
to Cizy oxplaini..&II; iz anc" &ivIn,, u6 Some bac,�.up and
Y(--t we've Still "Ying the pr,:tcudetnt thZIt Mr.
rL!forrjjjg to.
0 L! Z' (%J'r ol I,-) , Viiat is the best OPInion -c'nat you can give uE. at:
e in the oran�-.,,Q LOW!
We have pvuwam nLMA)Ur On
May do sl1w and Cha Sall? Of IOU.
16yar Ferro: AMS0, MoLllj ;SOU COLIC 1;%.-1 10
Vvu ... thcr� 's
0 M e gvo�;s ,-h' X,,, nQ.eC1C!C, LO tul� Y( YOU
d0y1'4 11alve ;-tny juN"wz and 1 guoo:, Lhuru'- -,I:j
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SUVer'! "i"i 6C) all, 1,111 lwrry,
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Mr. Fausto Gomez: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: I. wanted to tell you something which I noticed when I
first saw this back in the early part of the year, this thing is in
the Orange Bowl in the City of Miami. Do you know that there is not
one single mention of the City of Miami in this document?
Mr. Gomez: In the other document that we sent out it does mention the
City of Mi=i.
Mayor Ferre: I'm talking about this document which I saw. You thanked
Burdines, you thanked Metro Dade but you don't thank the City of Miami
Mr. .Gomez: Well sir the City of ltiami...this brochure was done for
this year's event out of last year's contributions and up until now
the City of Miami will now be identified as the supporting sponsor.
Mayor Ferre: I would be very grateful if you could the City's
emblem or something so that we.. -so those of us who have pride in the
kind of things the City does will be clearly identified up front that
the City is sponsoring this it supports you and so on.
Mr. Gomez: Certainly, in the other brochure at the end you will notice
it was the City of Miami Commission, the City of Miami Police Department
and the Mayor also mentioned as...
Mayor Ferre: Where does it say it? Just point it to me I just...
Commissioner Cnrollo: It says Mayor also not Commission right?
Mr. Gomez: The Commission.
Commissioner Carollo: Alright, ok, ok.
Mayor Ferre: Oh back page, alright lets see lets see, in the middle
down herd. Well I'll find it thank you very much.
Commissioner Plummer: Don't look to hard.
Mayor Ferre: Does anybody else have any issue that must be brought up
before we break to have a little bite to eat? Anybody need anything
brought up at this time? I see you're here because you enjoy this -right?
We'll going to take a little dinner break?
Commissioner Gibson: Why not?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes sir.
42. 3 STREET SWEEPERS
DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE KAINTEN0CE
Mayor Ferret We can pick up fifteen. Alright is there a motion on
fifteen? Plummer moves Lacasa seconds further discussion on item
fifteen call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 80-657
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE HID OF FLORIDA MUNICIPAL SALES, CO.
FOR FURNISHING 3 STREET SWEEPERS FOR THE DEPARMENT OF BUILDING
AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, AT A TOTAL COST OF $129,252,00; ALLO-
CATING FUNDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE-POLUTION CON-
TROL BOND FUND; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING
144
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ljj):Jn beir,:-., by - 1 1 as
passed and W0?4-W! by Lhe Wi1.m4n; wtm
AYES
WS; N o nu.
21DZNT:
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re:5olution wi� .iritvoducec: by Coiwissioviur Plummer, wilo
moved :Lt6
af3OLUT:0-,'; NO- 60-658
A ACCE?TING TciE BID OF LANZO CONST.iUCTIO.X Ccj"'-l.1LNy
K TEE PIONSED AMOUNT 07 (.:;7C:ti";
Y'XOM
s"2,150,2c;1_03 ','0
AMOCATING FLOM S&L '.`VNI) GV
EX'
OZ .1�4i 120 co""i SUCJ A
T E AND SA*10
rL: Mo T h v $ 9 5 , 2 1, H'.' !'Nj) I L C'J' i,031
0 &ACT
LKLCUT'i A
by thu followiri4 vot:%s.'
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wayur Foury
W
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44. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE:
INCREASE MIDS TO COMUNICATIONS
MAINTENANCE
Mayor Ferre: Alright so now we have four so lets go back to twelve
Itts an ordinance on an emergency basis.
Commissioner Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright Plummer moved
Commissioner Lacasa: Seconded
Mayor Ferre: Lacasa seconds read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 2 AND 5 OF
ORDINANCE NO. 9000, ADOPTED OCTOBER 19, 1979, THE
ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, AS AMENDED; BY INCREASING
T11E APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS,
COMMUNICATIONS MAINTENANCE, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$48,900; AND BY INCREASING ANTLICIPATED REVENUES IN
THE SAME AMOUNT FROM COMMUNICATIONS MAINTENANCE,
RETAINED EARNINGS, TO OFFSET THE CHARGES FOR PURCHASE
ORDERS ISSUED IN FISCAL YEAR 1979 AND PAID IN FISCAL
YEAR 1980; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commis-
sioner Lacasa for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing
with the requirement of reading same on two separate days, which
was agreed to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Plummer
Commissioner Gibson
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and
seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, adopted said Ordinance by the
following vote;
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Plummer 146
Commissioner Gibson SEP 151980
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NOES: Nmw
SAID wAs
CO ChU QZ' 'ChU
City Comur,16'si0-'*' aluto C is pu*;-Jl--7c.
1-Y 0 CZ C
ti
(:'trig: An ;,mur-ency ovdinanco avilundin& SUction onu and_
OL)'lIU')0QY
c- v L2; W.'-JiL Z, �'hinl,'LL' I ) C 1j
:/ �,IOVUd IC 'lu'C.
S ti 10 1,. L I.. tCLi., C' V. : cl,
.x:jvoc vk�r-rL,: movud by Lacasa oecond,!� by Gibson further ciscussion
road the o-,-c*.i-:,.--v,,c0.
1tJ i 9 , Tlli'-�
30 1960 DELE'l ING I'Lii; CON-
ONS BY $ 1 18 2 06 7
lNj MLVG'Fs S
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AS
IX 6 F ""ElL 1979SO C:\d' Y 7.AL IM20V�LMI,-,\
A RLPEXUR PROVISION
and by comzli.s' - - .
I . s
i0Z �'.'"Vu -'11-I C.L.: "17 * '
:7uql:',17el"L1VL Clr On LWO W�411.z.t Vclb
V c Al Lit L; 3'4
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5-j
NOES:
Commissioner Carollo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Lacasa and
seconded by Commissioner Gibson, adopted said Ordinance by the following
vote:
AYES:
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES:
Commissioner Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED E-MERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 9156
The City AttronQy read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to member of the City Commission
and the public.
46. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH PROJECT I.C. 2 STREET SWEEPERS
Mayor Ferret Take up fourteen.Anybody want...
Commissioner Plummer: I move it we have to. We've already bought
them.
Mayor Ferret Plummer moves Lacasa seconds read the...read fourteen.
Mayor Ferret Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO, %019', ADOPTED NOVEMBER 8, 1979, THE CAPITAL IMPROVE-
MENT APPROPIIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTE1,1BER 30, 1980, AS AMENDED; BY ESTABLISHING PROJECT
I..C,2., STREET SWEEPERS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $129,300; BY
DECREASING PROJECT 1.B.1, SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS FACILITY,
IN THE SAME AMOUNT; FOR THE PURCHASE OF THREE (3) STREET
SWEEPING MACHINES; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE,
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Lacasa for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote;
AYES: Commissioner Carollo 148 SEP ' J 1980
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer.
Vic(-! mayor LaI::aza
Mayor et; r;�:,�:
NOES: None
whc.,reupon t.1i3 Ox.,Z'iss
ol, C%D-,--*�;.,;-,(,1-,Etz
by coriviissioner adonted :.)y
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
C
Comunisjioner
vic�.,. I'layor Lacz-:ia
mayor Fu - r e
NorL
i", L
:00` at tnat again,
!--:i,vo:r FtZ-j:c: T`-,: riext or.e ii; nineLefi-n.
c-o ?
"]ICIyor G.-,Lb3Oj-4
'C"OvE.'s
*1' -,:.Ir T-, "d
)r A i t C. on - Any inroblums any4o,�,., on that L
C411 tho roll.
Ju.,zz for the hull oz: il; W,.,4"t is
M.Y. clarl\; Avunui: it's a p.-o.juct Rz)jn&r, Cwo
T'I'l z
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r
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9019,
ADOPTED NOVEMBER 8, 1979, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPRO-
PRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER
30, 1980, AS AMENDED; BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR
II.B.5., COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA DECORATIVE PEDESTRIAN -
SCALE STREET LIGHTING PROJECT, BY $24,100; AND REDUCING
II.C.2., S.W. 27 AVENUE STREET IMPROVEMENTS, IN THE AMOUNT
OF $24,100; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERA-
BILITY CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READ-
ING SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN
FOUR FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting on September 15,
1980 was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Gibson, seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT:
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9158
The City Attorney read the Ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the
public.
48. ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATION FOR RIVERVIEW STOIRM SEWERS
Mayor Ferre: Pick up twenty
Commissioner Gibson: Moved.
Commissioner Plummer: Twenty relates to twenty one right?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes
Commissioner Carollo: Seconded
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson seconded by Carollo further discussion
read the ordinance.
;150 SEP 151980
PIN
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
Commissioner I'lujimier: 11m going to vote yes but l ',pant to ask a
question afterwards go ahead finish your roll call.
Mayor Verre: Well what...
Commissioner Plucaaer: I did I voted yes.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLLD-
AN OIv)1irkNCE A�ffN`DING SECTION 1 01' 01WI'NAINCE 2140. 9019, ADOPTED
NOVFNiBER 8, 1c)79, THE CAIPITAL DLOROVEMuNT A:'PROPPIA.TIONS ORDINANCE
FOR TIiC: VISU1 YFAil 'ENDING SEPTLMiK:R 30, 1. 1- , S A:•lti:v7)ED; BY
1NC1%Z%S7NG THE: APPROPRIATION FOX V.B.3, Rll'.� i 11 STO. S1Fi KS,
BY $2,250,600; AND BY REDUCING V.r; • 2 LUI.:'ii Di�AL Na�:. :110.) i:.�.�.�J LN
THE A�iuu`: i G'. $'.1.O,UOG, V.H.ti 'W1 i'1' E�iu ti'.u: 5:."I",.RS LIN 1.1*.L
A.',Oli:tiT OF $—/8,000, V.L.5 LAWTIT LNCE' STOR:IS SE`W.'tS 1:� :;1 A iOUNT
OF $850,000 ,V.B.8 LAWRENCE PJMP STATION t,SO.:IFICATIONS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $75,000, V.C. 2 ORANCE, =,I, PUMP ST.-.iIGN IN THE iUMOU;"T
ov $55,000 V.G. I WEST STi-,EET I?iPX0V1-:::1;-'NTS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $255,000; AND INCREASING THE FUND BA1,ANCE "B
$517,600; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SE:VE1LA.BILITY
CLAiiSE; AND 'i,ISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SALE
ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS
OF TdE MERBERS OF THE C01"NISSION,
Pa:sed on its first reading by title at the mo�tting of September
15, 1980 was taken up for its second and final reading by title and
adoption. On motion of Commissioner Gibson, seconded by Commissioner
Cazo.11o, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading
by title and passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
iv^ne.reupon the Commission on wctxon of
seconded by Commissioner'Carollo, adopted
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Ccnanissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
Cnmmissioner Gibson and
said ordinance: by the
SAID ORDINANCE WA DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9159
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City
Commission and copies were available to the public.
On roll call:
Mayor Ferre: Alright Plummer
Commissioner Plummer; You know Dick the way I'm reading this you're
putting aside better than twenty percent for administrative cost
� ' 8CP 1 51980
Mr. Fosmoen: It normally rates seventeen percent commissioner.
Commissioner Plummer: You know boy I want to tell you something
when you talking about multi -million dollar contracts seventeen percent
alone is administrative. I tell you I would hope the administration
would try to find a way to reduce those cost. Maybe Porter homer
is going to address that hopfefully he will.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, I've got a another question and that is we have a
bond issue coming up in November are we getting prepared for that?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes we are.
49. ORDINANCE: PROVIDE FUNDS FOR INSTALLATION OF FUELING FACILITY
31.0,000 GALLON FUEL TANKS AT 1300 N.W. 20TH STREET
Mayor Ferre: Alright take up item number twenty two.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh I move that.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
Commissioner Lacasa: Seconded
Mayor Ferre: Lacasa seconds further discussion read the ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9019,
ADOPTED NOVEMBER 8, 1979, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRI-
ATIONS ORDINANCE. "OR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
1980, AS AMENDED, BY ESTABLISHING PROJECT III.C.i,"UNDER-
GROUND FUEL FACILITY", AND BY TRANSFERRING SAME TO CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT FUND, NEW PROJECTS, ESTABLISHING N.C. (1) 3.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $76,900, WITH FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF$46,000
TO BE APPROPRIATED FROM THE 1976 FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PRE-
VENTION AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND FUND, AND $30,900 TO
BE APPROPRIATED FROM THE MOTOR FUEL ACCOUNT OF HEAVY EQUIP-
MENT MAINTENANCE DIVISION, THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DIVISION, CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVI-
SION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE
REQUIREMENT OF READING THE SAMF ON TWO (2) SEPARATE DAYS BY
A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
CITY COMMISSION.
1U2
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Was introduced by Pl.utuaa r.d :,c:conded by
Comissi.oner 'Lacasa for adoption ;ursLiallt i:U Seccloa I., 1a�,.-agrah (f)
Of the City CY,artl:r w:' Zf', l:ll+ Tt:illllrk'iatirlL of veadi g salee
on two separate days by it vote of Y,ot li:ss tliiarl Lour -fifths o1 the
T,lembers of the Cor'zU:is61(j7-
AYES: Coamissioui~r. Cerullo
Coi ,lis ioner. Gibson
Colmr,iss:ioner Plu=er
Vice Mayor Lacasa
'Mayor Ferre
NOES. None
Whereupon r,:he Conmission on motion of Co=is: iuncr :'lutJmcr and
seconded by Lacasa, ai:opted laid ordi:iance by the
following vote-
Ay'-'S. CGLl'ia ;$iC711L]. C£,Tv110
l';olYwi,iS5i0iiC:r' t,�JaO"Ci
V:ici:: 'Maya-,' L: ca.;a
Kiyor l Tru
NOES: Nonu
SAID ORDIXANC`�:' WAS DESIGNATED ORDiMM, NO. 9160
The City Atto•tney read the ordina'ace into the public record and
announced that cop.es were available- to the member6 of the City
Commission and cop:iea were available to the public.
50. aCCI'', BID; PUELINO FACI„ITY- %DDITIONAL MJFL TAJp1CS
1300 N.W. 20TH STREET
Ma>'or 'e'er_-,:: P:iumrmer moves twenty three, Gibson seconds further dis-
cussion call the roll,
7,rie folllow:.ng resolution was i.n_roduced ',)y COmrMissioner Plummer
who moved its. a(ioption:
RLSO:.�''CZOi� NO, 80-659
A ..6.SUL11T :0\ ACCEPTIN "I"11' MD OF FLO'O\i:DA ',)L'yzP A:.`'li
TAN'-, !NC. IN AMOU-NT OF .;.,64 , 8-..) 7 , 72 ,
F,S:r F) .1iD 0:' THL PRO'J:F.:., r'Ok t' T,ii7v" FAC1'GiTY
AD!)iT1O'SAL 'M".1 TAi�KS 1.�:%J tS.LD'1).i�G) WIT:; .�:Ul�'"F'S
T;1; EFOR ALLOCATED FRCSX TEE "FIRE
P f,'ZVENTIO." iXD RESCUE FACI.1.ITIES C.O.
DLPr'XIIX::.VT OF FiL'SLi1:ING ;\I> VEr,1CLE 2rAINTE-
:V1 CE 1979 -80 i IS%;,i YtAfi I;',.UG;'T" "'N ` h" OiWT OF
; 64 , 89.7. 72 TO COV17R THE COST OF PROJECT MIENS :;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUNDS T1?1F. AMOMW OT $1.,298.00
TO COVER THi; COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERT1SINC
TESTING LA.BMWORIES, THE AXW-lINT O': $?,875.00 To
COVER 7HE I11IDIRECT COST, A1Y17 .AU:L'1ORT'GiNC 7HL CITE
MA SAGER TO MECUTE A CONTRACT 'WITH SAID
U1,on being; seconded by COmmissiorter Gibson, the rc:solutlon was
passed and adopted by the vo,:e:;
AYES: conlraissicj:'er carGllo
4
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
51. -ORDINANCE: INCREASE FEES FOR INSPETION AND SERVICE
FEES FOR ZONING CERTIFICATES FOR USE OF
NEW BUILDING, REINSPECTION ETC.
Mayor Ferre: Twenty five
Commissioner Plummer: You know Mr. Mayor let me just pick on my good
friend Berman Brace, I'm going to do it through you Mr. Fosmoen and
I'm going to use item twenty three as the example. I want a breakdown
furnished to me the total contract of seventy six thousand dollars
excuse me the contract was sixty four thousand the total cost is
seventy six. I want a breakdown of where eleven thousand three hundred
and three dollars went to ,just order some gas tanks. Now you don't
have to give it to me now but I want a breakdown of where eleven thousand
three hundred and ten dollars went.
Mayor Ferre: Alright somebody move twenty five.
Commissioner Gibson : It's been moved.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved by Carollo is there a seconded?
Commissioner Plummer: What is this?
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Lacasa further discussion read the ordinance
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINACE REPEALING SECTION 2-75 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA WHICH PROVIDES FOR INSPECTION AND SERVICE FEES
FOR ZONING CERTIFICATES OF USE FOR NEW BUILDINGS AND PREMISES
ALSO FOR ANNUAL REINSPECTION OF BUILDINGS AND PREMISES FOR
RENEWAL CERTIFICATES AND ACCESSORY USE CERTIFICATES OF OCCU-
PANCY AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFOR A NEW SECTION 2-75 INCREASING
SAID FEES; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SAKE ON
TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR FIFTHS OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
a�4 SEP 108�
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Was '3V
L a c as a for a do? r ion yju;:ziu,,,nt: lo :,-ja
of 1:'(1e city
Charter dispensing with thc 0',j -LWO
scparai:Edayi-, by a voi:i--, of ,ct th�,-,
C,U
the Connission-
AYES:
Vice Mayor Lacasa
"Kayor Forru
NO'3 : Xoye
I
oz Co,
col.cn-.i6sionor Lacas,:, iciopzeci said
AYiS C, I
NOES: sonu
SAID 01-M.)INANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORD1NANCE--',,:O- 916!
.aie City ALZOMOY reld t'ric, on-`inM)CU 1-aL0 Chu VU'Jlic ' re C:orc! and
(1:.111101ir1c0C C . nat wcre availalblw to tnt! of tha CiLy
Commission and copies were available to t1%u public.
52. OZINLIGZ: INCREASE - TEES, ADD OTHE%S, FOR INSPECTIONS, '
PLUMBING, BOILER, FME-VATOR 1--.TC 'A�4
Mayor ,?erru; Take up twenty :.;ix.
Gonwissioriev Lacasa: ',%loved
Mayor farre: Moved by Lacas,-I. Is there a bocond-2d seconded by Gibson
.r furthcr discussion, twenty tlrw. ordinaacL�.
,"�-Iyor Ferl'e: Alri6ht call the roil
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE A%4q-'.XDING SL0710N 5 OF URDIN.'..NCI: NO. 6145, ,00"PTED
%,=%i 19, 1938, AS AXrS-j'r.D, FE-E's ?`X !';-1) 1 N G
"DIN E"i AND ' FVATOR)
SOX!., FIEB,
?N
: ff-�N'2 OF 12r*:-.' S61L*T!1
PROVISION A�N-.', K-IVERV�ILIn- M.C:
db - I . - - �&
i
THE REQUIREi•1ENT OF READING S1,1iE, ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A
VOTE OF NOT 'LESS THAN POUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
CO"'OIISSION,
Was introduced by Commissioner Lacasa and seconded by Gibson
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City
Charter dispensin;,; With the requirement of reading same on two separate
days by a vote of not: less tha;, four fifths of the members of the
Commission -
AYES. Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor. Lacasa
Mr.yor Ferre
NOES: Norte
.nere:upon the Commi,.;ston on motion of Commissioner Lacasa ,and
seconded by Co;nr..is;;ioner Gibson, adopted said ordinance by the following
vot.e-
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Corn:ni.:�ic,ncr Plummer
Vice Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORI)INANC% WAS DESIGNATh"D ORDINANCE NO, 93.62
The i.;i.ty Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
anncnI::ced that. copies wer.,i 4vailablc to the members of the City
Gomm.issi,-,n and copies were available to the public.
53, ORDINANCE; APPROPRIATE A.)IOUNT FATSED BY;
INTERNATIO;;AL FOLK FESTIVAL 1980 TO T&A ACCOUNT
Mayor Ferre: Alright twenty seven which is the International Folk
Festival,
Commissioner I'lummer: Move: It.
Mayor Ferre: Plumper moves
Commissioner Carollo: Soccoded
Mayor Ft:rre: C,-,rnl.l.0 Iorthor discussion read the ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll,
156SE?
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$27 095 Till
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Vicu ',Lyov Lacasa
NO i's : Nonc
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W'i, c' r .' J al tGU J. S j L 1- .7 0 7� lwl 'I" ,-- i, u r
seconded by Col,-,xalisLonur LL4CALb,!, Li(ivJZ.C,u L.'rL-
vote-
AYES: Cavollo
cibso.n
Co".,Imissionur Plmmlur
Vice ML",().: Laca6a
Mayor ve;-Cre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINA.XCE WAS DES1 CNAT ED 0'FJ) -11,4,N' C"i" N'0 9163
71,,C C-.L.cy Attorney rai.ld Llkiiu ordinance into the publife record and
-3,nnotuiced thai: copit2s wurava"ab'L2 to cho membors of th�� Ciry
A. � J.
and copias ware availaL`t.i to tha p4blic.
5 DEFE-R'ML OV CGNSIDE*,ZAT4'0,�'- I" '-D TO TNC�',ZASE
1001� CI,rY S?iD'&',LYNG 26col's
layor Pure; Taku u-,) rhivty o-au
i0ni!r L -' C Li S LI
Ok What's your queI;tion?
zhL� WL!I' r'lle lial'ra el ,a 1I1
ft!U6 ZM2 CIrIC" thQ City
VC)
I like to
COIXIIIi s :�, Ccvro 12,C) n Tait z th i y ovi t~ Or L 111 r y
two hc.,ru-?
M:iyor Lt,,*Lx.-.I,, fIVO
five cents for youths f,'Oa, SC:vunLy five cents to eighty
'i L cent f r lion residence
five cL�nt.:, and �c2ljjor -,dl L.; C i,� s 0
I'm surd...
Collimissiorer Carol-lo- Tj*,t, t-nin, I --,avo no problom with now when
you're talkinj.-, iti:)oko: children especially where all our
pools are TOCZItUd ill 010 'lCL'*1l1i)C-Vil00dS its OUL-CaFeOUS. That's
where we should be Vou kn,iw to help and get these kids in a
better -.r-it: in the street doing something
that is :;)pose to, Sec L i-1, r.,.icc.
Alburt. flov--Irdi ',iin still corm: into the pool by bringing
- -;-7 ;
twenty fivi.t empty :1-w1ij---,I;, of charge and in some of the pools
It's VOI'v :;Ll(,( 31.11.L
Mayor '1WFt11 " iov. ot I itter that way.
comz-,;,st,!onor io-, V"e't but. I'm sure the hinds would be
[.o raise them put
i- wli,- n , -)Li about
1:,)o :I.
AV 0.-
rov-�6- service to tjj(�,
Ci a r., i. X L d o 1). L
e 1; Jn activit. -s that Lre ,-,orth their
thal: we have these
already, I can't 'buy that, that's
I III U;1
a rc,. increasing the non residence
Coplmissioll�:!,J, Carn-I'lo., :,I�ont-,.-, iri alright I'm talking about
,)11-, 'Kil%10S frOM I)L:%
Commissioner 1!01` dime or quarter
"s the children that are going to
ose th.�l 1I.IbliC t,liii, don't have any resources the
one t:,j-,iju pools at home
M:. Wk-, hive been forced to cut our pools
Laci, from Of L'UdgUt Cuts only in the summer
a n a 170-A, cro.:�i 61irilv ye -lc, u'hf.; would bring in some more revenues
it's a Vory cost wc, arc.: perhaps the lowest 'n the area
of all (-he
Mr. near what the Comillission is saying
leL us Cake ii JuZk ill: L'Io ,-A; for children in the pools and
see if there-'s; othf--.,r re wore .1twit- %.-o can offset that with.
to mako Dick is that
wig keep saya nj; 1. i. -I �.,-ou'ro forgetting, that kid:.--, parents
Ic's petzin,�.,, clol,15olet! w,.tli ;i of raise of taxes in his
., L
nci,iie or more Ic,-L(,r i. the garbage collections,
new taxes and other the -;N'L1--LCitY is going tip the water is going
up 1 )11 and on �i !'ood, so V-Ii�y're getting hit all over the
pl,lco
I,CL IV— tairty two passed today we'll come back
Comi,A,F.:IonVl Carollo. with thirty two I :Hove thirty
two.
,V,,IYL'c Ferro: for deferrals on items thirty one
further diF.cu.S,`;.Lon tV.(
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The following motion WwL intruducud i:"
who moved its adoption.
No. 60-630
REVISE THE PAOPOSW
BY Chl'[,DihEN, TO SEE 1-P IS All,,'.'
YHP, COULD 01111-1-�:-:T 12HC'SE
t:pon 6cin"- by
passed and aJtopced by the zollowicig vot-,:
9YA:
NOES: aoi
C�""" 01, ";0'L'F cc)C�"'SES
GWIN&W1,;
MR �=�QAIMQWW I =ANA A n�w A :A K N Z
Mayo z U? :rani two "":C":h C.1-lu
Moved
Mlayor Ferre: Movcd by Carollo i:i C'ovr-L a ;;CconcCd-
CoramissionLr *Lncasa: Seconded
Mayor Terre Seconded by LacaGa discussion call rho roll.
,IayJr V Call the roll.
StCTIOX 36-5-5 'KA7 F
CODE 01�1 llrL-',;. G. *Inl 0-v,
0-
OF '-"iiE
"TY
wgWROONT 07 Rwou; Ann, on To,
iX1 NO! LGSS !"I»4X
ON.
lqas '_-a"
u!
ncLu :has
Sion-
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AYES: Co; .:a i ::>> oner CarO1l0
mayor
NOES: Nunk.!
!%+', vreLip on ti't(' L ;.1L. i,,,_+ i:in 011 iGC)1: i o i i of Commissioner Carollo and
Sl.'mmdud by ,itjop,:cid said ordinance by the following
l'ol:t1 ,
AYES: ;f'1 Carollo
wommn,hmor Gibson
+ i:—,ic,nL r P1ummer
lacasa
;,tyoi i , rrL
MiAI + >?.1)1X:1t�Cl'; t .15 .:SIi Nn'i:;i1 OXhl; :_+\C:E_ Nn. 9164
tiie public: record and
onnon.`1C0 i t:h•2:: coplo!. w(,cc . .' liln!..,i• ra the members Of the City
Commission ;.in,! e-wpi, , ,•:t:- c ..:,li.i 1h;.C' :.0 the public.
s
1t0I)RIGI'I:'!. ;1
Mc_ya'r Forre: Alrtgbt nula C<liollo Lhi.r.ji five and thirty six were items
T think you wf:+nC doferrod.
Commissioner C,-;:c ll,). T ino rp c'c•fer those+ ow. Mayor and T
wi 1'vi : t: red previously hctre t'.hat... and
I just don' C l ii.: ttie i(i(-a c)f ivone :Aces the city for anything
W2 1 re so iwi 1 1 inn CC pay tnU L ,1!) `, , ,`i:C' 1 'vc! been here I think what we've
paid out i.n...o.1c ci co1 e',. ::c1: >: rtct:; I,uen well over six hundred
tiIcoI ?1G dollar:; if i',:!:. i)Ve;: t(I,ai , ..:, t- l to C:IQ r uctson I'm cIJferring
and 1. would li.ku to meet with rhL c;i. y ArLorney every time something
like this comers up.
Mayor feT'ru: Wrl;.;nC Li:U'C-:':. ,1 'n1CIta. ,, co defer item thirty five and
rhirLy sir.,
Gonnissioner Plummer: IdaL ,nuL ChIrt:y fuur It's the same?
Mayc)r i-'urr<. 1'i1i1:'; 1ar�:ar.y u)cr� deicrrc,cl,
Commissioner I'lurnmur: H,rh?
Mayor Ferrer i'},.Ic's 't>1--L•n d.e; o-. vud. Alright is ther(, a seconded.
Commissioner Plwwwr: Vay cic)tinW.ly.
Mayor Derr Alr:ip,,it th,.,i%:'., a: -:on 1.0 ,-second. further discussion? Call
the roll
'DiERr;L.W TA &0000:.;ti :;(Y;'.1:0:. `ie D:Fia), AGI,= ITF. NO
35 AR 36 was :in•_T'osuous in, Commissioner Carollo and
secondoa by Commissioner :'l.i.wnor, and was passed and
adopter by I nn;li OUS VOW.
:�; ') S E P 1 5 i98Q
57. CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT OF LAWFIRM OF SPARSER, SHEVIN, ROSEN, SHAPO &
HEINSRONNER- LEGAL ANALYSIS IN AREA OF PENSION SYSTEM STRUCTURING
Mayor Ferres Alright take up item thirty seven.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute excuse me. What happened to thirty
three?
Commissioner Carollos That was approved already Plummer before.
Commissioner Plummer: We approved thirty three?
Commissioner Carollo: Yeah.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, we are now on item number thirty seven that's the
Sparber is there a motion?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion that, that
matter be deferred until we've seen a report of what they're done so far.
Commissioner Carollo: That's right you've got to report...
Mr. Gary: We'll you've got a report with the ordinances.
Mr. Foamoen: You acted on it today.
Mr. Gary: You acted on the report today.
Commissioner Plummer: That was not their report that was their ordinances
Mr. Gary: Yes that ... no that's what we had them doing.
Commissioner Plummer: They said they submitted a report dated March of
1180" I'd like to see the report.
Mr. Foamoen: All it was...I would be happy to supply you a copy, all
it was a legal opinion that you could do what you did today.
Commissioner Plummer: I would appreciate it. You know here again even
though I voted in the negative Dick, I think I'm entitled to see whether
or not I feel their reports substantiates a renewal of the contract or a
extension.
Mr. Foamoen: The March paper was only a legal opinion that you could do
what you did today what you acted on today was was in fact the end product
of their effort.
Mayor Ferre: Well I think that Commissioner Plummer and Commissioner
Carollo are entitled to see the full spectrum of what was done on the
other hand I do think that Mr. Sparber and...
Commissioner Plummers Okay, let me do it this way for you, I move thirty
seven subject to the report being given ... the City Manager and given to
all members of the Commission, does that do it?
Mayor Ferre: Alright there's a motion, is there a second?
Commissioner Carollos Seconded.
Mayor Ferre: There's a second, further discussion on thirty seven as
amended call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption.
6 st"tp T f-N11J,4::W /,s , / 9 d'D
RESOLUTION NOt 80-661`
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE THE
EMPLOYMENT OF THE.SERVICES. OF THE LAW&FIRM OF SPARBER, SHEVIN,
ROSEN, SHAPO AND HEINBRONNER FOR LEGAL ANALYSIS IN THE AREA OF
PENSION SYSTEM STRUCTURING WITH THE MAXIMUM OF $15000 BEING
HEREBY SET AS COMPENSATION FOR SUCH CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT UNLESS
FURTHER AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following votes
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Theodore Gibson
Commissioner J.L. Plummer
Vice Mayor Armando Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENTS None
58. AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SIGN AGREEMENT:
PUBLIC HEALTH TRUST OF DADE COUNTY
Mayor Ferre: Take up item thirty nine.
Commissioner Carollo: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Carollo, is then a second?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Plummer. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo
who moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-662
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH TRUST OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA
WHICH OPERATES JACKSON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI FOR THE COORDINATION OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, SUB-
STANTIALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH
IN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENTI WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED
THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET.
Upon seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
59. AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT:
National Football League
Miami Dolphins Playoff Games
Mayor Ferre: Alright Plummer...
Commissioner Carollo: Move forty.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo moves forty. Plummer
Y you want to second that?
Commissioner Lacasa: I have a question on forty, Bob this agreement d'
6 0
is with the NFL or with the Dolphins?
Mr. Bob Janning6; With the National ''oat'.) all Lea -u,! Comn:issionor
If you will notice that Commissioner Rozel'1's name is on the contract.
Mayor Ferre; Alright it's been moved and seconded further discussion
call the roll.
`i'he following resolution was introduced 'by C0ZMi6Si0neT Carollo,
who moved it's adoption:
RE SOLUTION NO. 80-663
A RZSOLUTIO,� AUTHO 1ZIVG T':iE CITY MANAGER TO ZXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT S-]ITH THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL 'LEAGUE FOR
THE USE, OF THE ORANGL 30'4 ST�J)IUX FOR AVM 'tqP .I
DOL-2KINS HO'+E PALYOFC CX%fj S FOR TE,'E 1981, 1982 A.N-O
1983 NFL SEASONS, IN CONFOR-11.NCE WITH `1'H'E 'TERMS AND
CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED AGREEM]LNT
Upon being seconded by Co:mnissioac!r Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Carollo
CouL"aissioner Gibson
Commissioner t'a.u=er
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: 'Mr. Mayor let me stop right there for a minute and ask
the City Manager what are we doing, if anything, to try to secure Super howl
for 84? I read some story that the City was going to hire a puulicist-an.: a
P.R. man.
Mr. Fosmoen: It's not my intention Commissioner.
Bob Jennings: If I raay they have decided against that, that
was my recommendation and the administration decided that they didn't
want to accept my recommendations.
Mr. Fosmoen: It is not my recoratundation to this coimrission.
Bob Jennings: It was strictly my recommendation.
Commissioner Plummer: Well can you give us a paper in the near future
telling us what you're doing?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes
Mayor Ferre: Yeah you're going to Hawaii
Commissioner Plummer: Like hell I am.
Bob Jennings: No the NFL has announced that they are going to
accept proposals in March of next year for 83, 84.........
Conraissioner Plummer: Well let me tell you Bob you're well aware that
if we're going to infact snake a bid in March of next year now is not
too soon to start planning. You will recall last year we startod about
this time of the year with a committee of about twenty people and we
met every two weeks for breakfast at the golf course.
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Mr. Jennings: The National Football. League has put off priliminary
guiedelines as to how the bids will. be constructed and yesterday
at the Orange howl the NFL front office people were here Don Weiss
Jim (NAi'fES INAUDIBLE) ware all down here so I discuss
it with them there will be some more guidelines coming out shortly.
60. AUTHORIZING DELTVERY OF CERTAIN SANITARY SEWER BONDS OF 1977
in principal. amount of $1.0,000 to replace lost bonds
Mayor Ferre: Alright we're now on item number forty two authorizing
execution delivery of sanitary sewer...
COmmi6Sioner Plummer: This is a replacement of law I'll move it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves
CO:MiSS:[Oner Ciosou: Seconded
?favor. Ferro: Gibson seconds furhter discussion call the roll.
The followin; resolo(:ion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its <adc,pt:ion:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-664
RESOLUTION AUTHOSTZING THE EXECUTION AXD DELIVERY
OF CFRTAIN SANITARY SEWED. BONDS OF 1977 1N THE
PRINCIPLE A`fOUNT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ($10,000)
TO REPLACE LOST BONDS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor 'Ferro
NOES: None
61. COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA SIDEWALK AND
STREET LIGHT MODIFICATIONS
Mayor Ferre: Who votes for forty. three?
Mr. Fosmoen: Were requesting...
Commissioner Carollo: I'll. move it with the a...
Mayor Fcrre: Alright a ...
Mr. Fosmoen: i4e':e r;:questing a wi.thdrawl on item Forty three
a deferral please.
Commissioner Plummer: Why? Why?
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Commissioner CarUl10: jittf;Yl 1.'i. can you tell me
where the cxt•ra s(:vi::: thous ,nd thvc<e :'tU1iG"."t an� f'ou:c'Cy dollars went
to? 13eCall;ie L"[1U l:GiltraC'C 47;.15 for ii,UCil ll:::i:a C1;ai'1 l`h:]i;,
Mrs. Angina ui i2ill:y: :.,iiYO b'Cre tIJG p:do 'ii Jr,ci Cuti,
t. �1C111'rl.ii.i•:..
the sidewalk modii ication and tnt? 6trur:t 1:611t:.11 ;, i''tloiiC: +oTk;: feels
that they Gifu carry out tCiL'. t;'ldLwil.ltt-mudificati.Gns t11c selvLS at a
cheaper price. Then.' going to come...
Mayor Fer•re: Now are you going to bring it back.
XS, Bellamy: Yes.
Mayor Verve: Airitht take up itet1•.
Corimii tsionev Ylununev : Let li,d tell you aG'itlC:tiliitf, i'vU ;;ot a j.roL' lum
with that, 1 want you to come by Ttly house ok thi6 is the com.,lissioner
�1 i W:i'ia Oil ��� CG:id. G z,' :1 C:U. i.: ad
.)uc'. C1i.i::GYi, j' y ./ LOUlC 3'l`.
: alCit� Wa jr6 that PUbl * C Or "` ditl : _O"d my iiL �bii iG'CL'(OOI about two
/f i'.TEi a3a.
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M:.. 62. ACEi T GIll: Air r,. :,.ct�l 1 i11I1).\ L'i.IIIDINt 1�: C1�LL�U LOT C i:'N YNG
Mayor Ferro: Ok in the meantiMe we're o*n item forty .ou.. parkins
Trot Fencing. is there a motion'.
COracia::iSiov"Ir iiovLd, I j1sL' : ,,nL' an answk r w:lt rc three hundred
and fifteen dollars went to, the c0n1:rac'i: was for $10,14.2.00
toCay was ;:i,r
Commissioner Plummer: That's suv,�nteen percent.
M,tyor. i'erre: A1rigCtt is there further discussion on that motion';
Ts there a second.
Coramis!;ioner Plu=ur: I'll niove it: ✓irh 1-.he administration furnish
us where the additional money wen-i: ;:a.
Mayor Fevre.: A1riGht that's t:,e second you mean because Ca-rollo al-
ready moved it. Further discuc,&:Lon call the roll.
,,,he following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo,
who moved its adoption:
RESCL,'OTION 80-665
A ICS01.UTION ACCEPTING 'i"11: BID,, OF QUAID INSTALLATION,
INC. IN i'rE pRoPOSF.i) :,DSOTJTN OF ;10,141..00, 3y51:ll BID OF
'l':i'C PnOPOSAi 'FOR k:x/,YX1ST1XA'IO:V 'LOT
itQt.l.C:i 1dh:.l0ii» n:.L(:A.1r.D FnUti1 1ni'. ACCOUNT
el�':':I:TicU "5': �•'lAL PROGI&-'_'.a ANu ACC0UNI TS/NEW
'rl.oN Ij i1l,u .:rl," ...� it K':UtittiT Ur %a0,141.00 1'O CUlir,.ti '1`liE
CONTIL4CT COST' AL1 OCAlINIG '',k0:i SAID Ire NDS THE oi0laiT Ol'
$305.00 To COV&r 17d': COS: OF SUCH ITI-^IS AS :OVERT!SING,
ii:S1IAG L4;Ofti'1(��I:;S, AND POSTAGE; AND Ai`T 0;'17,1\o TAL
CITY , A2�:�GL1: .0 E}:LCUT1: A CO':\�i%ACT WITh SAID
Lh)On t:[i.,ig sec.o-...do'. by CCl'an.issione'L Plli.Ur+l or, 5110 resolution was
pasaeu ,:Lilt:' i.do7tC:d Ly 't1:L iol»lOW:i11b vovt ,:
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AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
63., PIF)RRAL OF CONSIDERATION: BID ACCEPTANCE-Ol-FICE FURNITURE
FOR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT
Mayor Ferre: Pick up fourty five.
Commissioner Carollo: I would decide a deferral -Mr. Mayor, I haven't
been able to do a final research in this, this is the same ... even
though the name :'s different here: Litton Central Office Products, it's
the same company Central 5cationL.rs that receives the half million
dollar contract t.h�it we had a problem with so I would like to finish my
research before I get into this. I inove to defer.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Fosmoen: I i:ave Mr. Mullins here if there are any questions that
the Commission wishes to direct.
Mayor Ferre: No, but the Commissioner has moved for a deferral. Is there
a second? Does that cause a problem of any kind?
Mr. Fosmoen: We think we're going to lose the bid I'm trying; to find
out what the t'.mc delay is.
Commissioner c:arollo: Excuse me Mr, Mullins since you're here already
I've been wondering about something The equivalent bachelors degree
that you have what is that in sir? You have an equivalent bachelor
degree?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes it's in garbarlage.
Commissioner Carollo: I'm being; serious now Plummer.
Commissioner Plummer: Did you under,�tand the question?
Mr. Art Mullins: I don't think so.
Commisisoner Plummer: Do you have a degree.
Mr. Mullins: No
Mr. Fosmoen: Is there an issue other..aside from the bid issue
that we want to discuss.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner. Carollo has asked Mr. Mullins whether or not
he has a bachelors degree.
Mr. Fosmoen: Ok.
Mr. Mullins: No sir, I do not.
Commissioner. Carollo: Well the resume that I received from you, sir
stated that you had an equivalentB.B.A. degree I would assume that it's
a Bachelor in Business Administration.?
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Mr. Mullins: It's an egUivdlent u':Ld 'Ch.lb jU %1 ;'.s'C✓. 1 information
that was given to me from the lnternatio:ial accountant Society,
Commissioner Carollo: lne int:erilatiun kccc'u-c'zant society, wnevc. are
they at sir becaus,i! I havUii' C b132C. ziJlit 'CO 10C:u',:L t,1Giu, they don't
exist in Chicago where they're suppo L, co "o,:t it,.,
Mr. Mullins: international Accouni:ailt JOCit:zy 1 beliuv,�: now have been
taken Over by one of the Other lar C COrre6pOnGCnCt S'C1,10016 either
LaSalle or some other one I'm not sure,
Commissioner Carollo: Ok, sir t'aur.k you very i,iuch
Mr. ,Mullins: fillr the problFra on this fu-:-niture i.h; a.. CCiiv is TOT CChL
Solid Wz.4ce bu.'.idi.ng and it'u rilady t0 i'i:ceive li] a :liiii li'i( and t'h'1S
again is this instal.i&d open office Systev, concept of lurr,if..ure and i'C's
going to delay moving Solid Waste and ...
Mayor Ferro: `liiai-,:'6 a ',nozion or, 'Crhu floor...
COIIlrli6sio'ner 111umzLr: Mr. hattcrsori will learr, tG love it.
`,iayOT CzrTB: 1h4-,E!'S a motion...
„O,i7u Ss ion c:r Carollo. ro': t'hu record tnar,; was only one Oid that was
received for this also.
.Mayor li'TE.: ..itlright Y110re s .a i:hotion on "tC floor tii8t this itul,
v : def,�rrod. li th,c ro a second -co that?
Co=aas'i.oner Pluuaner: Out of COurtuoy to Commissiorhur Carollo l sec3,w
tha motion.
Cossaissioner Carollo: Thank you Mr. Plum-mer.
;Mayor Terre: is c:here 'further discus6ion? Call the roll.
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Mayor Ferre: •rather Gibson has a question.
CGAIr:1iS.SiUiler Gilason; TArna-c if you are about- to lose, . , ix you're about
to lose this bid, I don't understand that?
:Mayor Ferre: How much would that cost us if we lost:: t;iis bid do you
know`?
Commissioner ?1uii-mn ur; It's a unkniown we WOl:ld have ::O reaC: t.ij.B.
mir. i'osmoen. he bid is sever, ty four thousand dollar::, if we lose iC
we'll have to rebid it, 1 don't know what's that going to cost,
Cormnissioncr Plunnier: Well you .:c:e., in all fairness rather yo+.i know
1 uJn't wa111: 'CG &at in Cho :u1*.d67:- of :all 11- l'nds or he-.-(' but
1'vO C;Ot 1:0. Mr, Mkillins, Mr. hullins wilt::; Were rha-C: bids taken G:
aCcapti:u? 0 the ,:op of your head ten days Ago, two months, three:
mont:;hs, when were the bids taken?
Coimnissioner Carollo: July the twenty six or July the tenth e=xcuse lxe.
Coiimniss-oner Plun.mer; They were received on July the tenth'.
1Yr. Xullins: No just a t:inute.
i5:r. 1'u iliOcil: Li ts...W<'rN t',Oing to get thl. "CCUr:-ste .fn:Uini:aL2Gr1 fOl' YOU.
COtilm Ssionc"r Pluua,,ar: ,4t:11 what I'm ;laying i:i you allow
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even if it was the twenty six of July they had basically the.,.
Mr. Howard Gary: It had been received on July tenth it was advertised•
on June twenty six
Commisioner Carollo: Ok that was correct and they were received July
tenth that's when the bids were opened.
Mr. Mullins: They're only good for ninety days ... they're only good for
ninety days and there is going to be a minimum of ten percent increase
in price.
Mr. Fosmoen: They're good for ninety days we can carry it.
Commissioner Plummer: Well ninety days that would be July to August
August, September you've got no problem.
Commissioner Gibson: So what was that?
Commissioner Carollo: Wait a minute Mr. Manager I don't understand
something if these bids are only good for ninety days how come the
other contract for half a million dollars were received good until after
the last November election that went by? Was that a different deal
that was cut in that or...
Mr. Fosmoen: I can't answer that question for you Commissioner.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you
Mayor Ferre: Well there's a ... we're in the middle of a vote now and
father wanted to make a statement but go ahead.
Commissioner. Gibsn: No I just wanted to know. I
Mr. Fosmoen: In response to your question father it looks like the bids
will be good until October tenth we will not lose them.
Commissioner Gibson: Alright.
Mayor Ferre: Well then we're not going to lose it?
Mr. Fosmoen: No we will not lose them.
Commissioner Gibson; Well that's why I was asking.
Mayor Ferre: Obviously if this item ':s deferred under our procedures
that means it's deferred uiLcil the next commission meeting.
Commissioner Plummer: Correct.
Mayor Ferre: And I would hope that Commissioner Carollo could persue
his investigation and would that be enough time and if not we'll defer
it again you've got until October, ok.
Commissioner Carollo: Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I vote yes.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER AGENDA ITEM NO. 45
to (the next commission meeting) was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo and seconded by Commissioner Plummer, and was passed
and adopted by unanimous vote.
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CiV
Mayor Ferru: AlriSlit what else do wu havu',, !LE;rl forty L;ix any
problem or, char? Who moves that? Is there a motion?
Commissioner Lacasa: Moved by Lacasa, is there a second?
Commissioner Gibson. Ya6.
Forru: Va tr, 0- r 0 ib S 0 V, C 0 Ci u V 0 i s C U S 3 1' 0 n C. a 11 tilt
roll
O.i 101,L CALL
to lb-c a ciLy
policy for surVeilencu, Or it Will be Used strictly for the Photograph
ri�lnt? ',�Oz co 'j)aY inforliWrn; -w-.*th? 1i will be used strictly for photo-
gra-phing not to pay inorinanLs
Mr. vosmoen; Police mostly
Commissioner Carollo: 00 ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Wull, c; little money here and there for all informer,
Col-,Llis6ionor 0'arollo. Y,2alih *1i'r-W CWo hundred thout;and dollar:: last
year,
Ms. Matey iiirai: Y,-,. Cazollo your vote sir.
PILZZICi'-. Vaat in -znc hc;11 is an incelligence graphic
computer terminal and accessories?
Ms. Hirai: Mr. Carollo your vote sir.
Mayor Terre: Yes call the roll
Ms. Nirai; Mr. Carollo your vo;O.
Cormtissioner Carollo: Yes.
The: following resolution wa6 --'ntroduced by Comuissioner Lacusa
who moved its adoption:
iiESGLUTION NO. 80-666
A RESOLWIG' . % ACCEP."ING TliE BID OF ?174; -N P'1j.OT(.D,
Fo% *PHOTOCRAPFic SGP-.)Ln'S AS
A CC)'-�TRAC'4` B'A"'IS 'FOR O\E YEAR FROM DATi: OF AT
A "0" , A I --.4VL CO- ST 0r " c,55,000.00, ALLOCArl"YSO F-u-2,,S- '2aO�'
THE 1979-80 BUDGET; AUTii0IRIZING TH'-- CITY
E ?6 R ,%U-'�AC0 A�T-; Tili: �,GENT TO YkalifT�'l
CHASE ORDERS FOR ThZSE MATERIALS
U-PO-a IbQing, SUCOnded by COMMi$SiOnCr Gib:,On, ChU resolution Wa,-;
and adopted by the followin& vote;
AYES:
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Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
65. ACCEPT BID: ONE INTELLIGENCE GRAPHIC COMPUTER,
TERMINAL AND ACCESSORIES.
Mr. Mullins: May I answer sir?
Mayor Ferre: Yes sir you sure may.
Mr. Mullins: This is a remote terminal for the police computer system
the operational computer system and it's in connection with an L.E.A.A.
Grant, and the Police Department has L.E.A.A. approval for this purchase.
Commissioner Plummer: That's great now for my original question still
stands, what the hell is it?
Mr. Mullins: It enables them to operate into the computer from a
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remote location in thepu:i.lUit''t�. Jlrot �--:tit= 4V=' G:il. .:a ZOr OliT COzip uter
System
corimis3ione'r Kuruae:r: Why u00,,V. zaey ii 1 t Cha-= i.lit year, or &er;ting all
this intelli-ence graphic..,
',fayor r'errt:, Alright, call -ZhC cell i'vC �;nC Lo ;o.
'rilL. fo:ilowino Te°iolul.iorl was iritroduceed by Commi,sionac Gibson, who
moved its adoption:
A Y-,ES0L'u"T10:\ ACCE'T�'i\'C OW TU..: `i);v1Y _t\(,, V%. .,:I1-Ni51.it\C
l/:YIi iS�U'Zi,1,101ENCZ GIL",?hI4 LG�ir'L`...;ti 11::44L:\i:i iC1i. -1-.
oil,POLIC,E., A TOT:. 0OST L:
vt4't..\1 'rU ilk✓, �?.L'.-;i,-aiLl.�.,: a�. Ci.`�'' t:'i�::,�a :�..C:1
PURC5AS1:NO AGF.aT TO ISSUE TriE i'u1:CitAS4 01i,)1,� 'r0I•; i'i;';S EC 1PV2NT.
J011 bcin; seconded by Carullo, thu resoiutiC1l wati
iia,`.::il:e. and adopted by the rollowiL-o- voze,
A1; is cor.lmissioner carollo
Coral is'io"Cr G:i'asun
Ct�ra.'tiissfonex 1':L`,11,1;i1:r
;�.ityor r @rrt?
N01' .S : Nonc
t ..„t4a►.t;,,'uawii,;; ._ � _., �t �:.�..e.�.l..+� ' ,,..isw.t,La ...: LL •- J. , i" ay...,.. . a : b- • t:...w:.,iu+
Cii?. CCI:'i iilD:
P::l;tiTitic 0:' 3,000 i+\\'i:A'L
RL ORTS
THi POLICE DEPAR'f'� ;NT
ii'•'
Mayor "r'QTVU: Forty nine, prinri of 3,000 annual reports for C}le
Police Departmenc. Alright is there a Motion.
Coauuissio;lar L' acasa: Moved.
Mayor x'e'rr%:. Movad, Seconced a fu'„L'i'ler discusSiGr. Call thV '.oil.
"CtE , tby Conalss7On:: L3CaS1,i.'
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 60-668
`X XESGi.L-T1bti
lNl.y ltti LIU\1✓Li'Nl, i.�Xl, Gt' 3,Ull 0 aN NUW.. !U'. Qi\'1J 0 L[iG
D!--!AT O: P01,1" " A 0ST 0 $12 T
1'sc- .'UND'S I''iiii:; :�: 1`)7'%--6,C u1jE'RA XG i3UDO T OF 'LHA.' DE*,"AM'
.❖ .,,,,
:l -'NT • A:,'iti :'. �. .`:; ,.. t. C- i'1' t\7.i:�i.C:.:, ..� J T C::
T,, , AA.
i':ic; PURCHASL" ORDi3S FOR ThIESE xATERIALS ,
1.1pc,1 bci.a& aucondud by Com�:;issionGr Carollo, the ri:5olution was
pa6cdc and adcpc(:d by the following vot4:
AYLS: Cormissioncr Carolio
Co:rmlis'iollesr L.S17i1
VL): •••y -sion0 iiL'1'meT
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VLf
i 1�8U
rM•�.
67. REMOVE CITY OF ?1IM1I FROM Tri.TRO-DADS FIRE A`'D RESCUE SERVICE
DISTRICT AND DIRECT CITY CLERK TO FORWARD COPY OF RESOLUTION
Mayor Terre: Plummer moves fifty one Father Gibson seconds call the
roll.
' The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-669
A RESOLUTION TO REMOVE THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM THE METRO-
DADE FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE DISTRICT BY CONTINUING TO
PROVIDE, THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE MIAMI.
FIRE DEPARTMENT; FURTHER REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
MAKE EVERT' EFFORT, INCLUDING LITIGATION IF NECESSARY,
TO RECOVER THOSE FUNDS PREVIOUSLY COLLECTED FROM THE
CITY OF MIAMI TAXPAYERS AND USED FOR FIRE AND RESCUE
SERVICE TO BENEFIT AREAS OTHER THAN THE CITY OF MIAMI;
FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY CLERK TO SEND A CERTIFIED
COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE METRO -DADS FIRE AND
RESCUE SERVICE DISTRICT IM14EDIATEI.Y UPON PASSAGER HEREOF.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner. Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
68. DESIGNATE PLANNING & DESIGii OF 2 COMLMljNITY PARK BUILDINGS
AND DWIM1\1ING POOL RENOVATIONS AND APPOINT CARL KERN AS
CHAIRxv,AN OF THE COMPETITIVE SET1J C'-'ION CO`LMITTEE.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item fifty five who moves that?
Commissioner I.acasa: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved and seconded further discussion call
the roll.
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fo].l.owin; resolution was introduced by Co;u:r.i6sionur 'Lacasa,
who moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 50-670
;i RESOLUTION DESIGNATING PLAii\T'NG iitiD DEc:IGN OF `L'4,'O PARK
C0�'?;i�N2'iY 'WiUILDING AT CURTIS A:iil kr«ST LND PARKS A D :id0
S'W1L'KvlrvG 1300L ACCESS RENOVATIONS AT 'WEST EN'D Als'D SHENAN1jOA7i
T'AR!<S AS A CATEGORY B PROJECT, AND APPOINTI:NG CARL KERN,
D1'RI.-:CT()r, 0F T'rl'c DEPARTiIKLNT 0:? PARKS, AS OV 7HE
CO?t.'^.t:TEE, �, . ACC0iCr' NCE k'IT . ORDINANCE
NO. 0965, ADOPTED J1LY 23, 1.979, 4fr.TCH GhD1`;.':`i:.. ESTA3LT5HED
Po'OCi:D',''?ES FOR COYTRACT1,NC i-OR SA"L'D '-., 0O LSSIONAL S'ZRVICES
A\i ALSO *ESTABLISHED COIMPET11"IVE NEGOTIATIONN REQUIREMENTS
�JIT REGARD TO THE 'r'JhNISHING OF SUCH SERVICES.
Upo,z b4 -fng 5t:COTlded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote;
AYES; Commissioner Carollo
Corunissioncr Gibson
Comriissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor l'erre
NOES: hone
69, NA`4E LITTLE RIVER PARK %ITT'LE RIVER CO` 1F&CE PA:W'
Mayor Ferre; Come on gentlemen we're on item fifty six Little River
Park seconded so on Little River...
Commissioner Carollo: Move:
�;ayor Fc!rre!: Moved, it's been moved and seconded . This is the Annete
Eisenberg park rignt.? Alright call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo,
who moved its adoption:*
RESOLUTION NO. 80-671
A RESOLUTION NAMING LITTLE RIVER PARK, AT. N.E. SECOND
AVL:N,;E AND 80TH TERRACE, THE "LITTLE RIVER CCI'LDERCE
PARK.
Upon buin, :seconded by Coum,issioner 'Lacasa, -che resolution was
passed and adopted by the ollowin- vote:
AYL& 0ommq ine;
"'ar0110
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
70. NAME LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK "JOSE MARTI RIVERFRONT PARK"
Mayor Terre: Alright we have two motions and a seconded, three
seconds call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-672
A RESOLUTION NAMING THE PROPOSED LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK
LOCATED ON THE SOUTH BANK OF THE MIAMI RIVER, AT S.W.
4TH STREET THE "JOSE MARTI RIVER.FRONT PARK".
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
71, DEFERRAL OF APPOINTMENT- CITY OF MIAMI OFFICE OF
PROFESSIONAL COMPLIANCE COt%L%fITTEE
Mayor Ferre: Ok, fifty eight City of. Miami Office for Professional
Compliance Committee.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute I didn't...
Mr. Fosmoen: You need to appoint members to this in order to move
this process ahead.
Mayor Ferre: Alright ok, how many people ... we each get an appointment
Mr. Fosmoen: No sir you do not each
Mayor Ferre: Well I've got mine you got yours. I nominate Bob Harden
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Commissioner Gibson: I nominate ''Richard Barry.
Mayor Ferre: Bob Harden Richard harry,. you better hurry up because
the ... you better hurry up because the fourth...tnc fifth I ain't
going to set no money. Come on where's your nominee?
Commissioner Carollo: QLL'. professional and compliance, why don't
we get the City Manager to explain this a little better.
'Mayor Ferro: That's the substitute for the civilian review board you
know I think we passed four or five months ago. We appointed four
guys.
Commissioner Carollo: I'd li}:c to...
Commmissioner Plu—mmer: Wait a minute I move this to be de •!rred. I
submitted a name and it's not here.
Comnissi.oner Carollo: Wait a minute, wait a minute, where we at here
now?
Mayor Ferro,: We're ovL item nu;nber fiLty eight.
Commissioner Gibson: Fifty eight.
co-mmiS5icrier Carollo: 16 Lnis civiliall review?
Mayor 'r"erre: Well it's not really civilian review, it's what they
come up with substituion of.
Commissioner Carollo: 1 have no probla:ii to defer this if that's what
Choy like to do.
Commissioner Plummer: I'd like to defer it.
Mayor Ferro: Well you've already recommended Jack Alfonso and somebody
recommended Reverend Richard Barry...
Commissioner Gibson: 1 did.
Mayor Ferre: ... And I recommend Bob harden, that makes three. We need
one more......
Commissioner Plummer: I will give it to you at the next meeting Mr.
Mayor.
:Mayor 'Ferro: Ok, there's a motion for deferral and seconded, further
discussion ?.Call the roll.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DEFER AGENDA 1TEM NO. 58
to (the next commission meeting) was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, and Seconded by Commissioner Carollo, and was passed
and adopted by unanimous vote.
72. APPOINi'MENT OF PERSON TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD
Mayor Ferre: Ok, appointment of certain individual to the City of Miami
Affirmative Action Advisory Board. Who is my recommendation on that
Mario?
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Commissioner Lacasa: I have a nomination...
Commissioner Plummer: I nominate Linda Eads
Mayor Ferre: Alright we have Linda Eads
Commissioner Carollo: Can we nominate now? How many openings are
therp.? p
Mayor Ferre: How many openings are there? Linda Eads alright
Commissioner Carollo: How many openings do we have?
Mayor Ferre: Will the Manager please answer?
Commissioner Carollo: Going once going twice gone.
Mayor. Ferre: There are five vacancies.
Mr. Fosmoen: Five vacancies.
Commissioner Plummer: Where did you get one according to the guidelines
that Father set at I nomi.nate...
Commissioner Plummer: Some of them are reappointments,
Mayor Ferre: Linda Eads is nominated by Plummer, go ahead Carollo.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't have any I nominate Xavier Suarez
Mayor Ferre: Xavier Suarez ok and you.
Commissioner Lacasa: Manuel Mendoza.
Mayor Ferre: Manuel Mendoza, Manny Mendoza alright and I nominate
Jim Cassll.
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor your normal procedure requires that people
apply and that they submit a background to you I just the heard the
name of Xavier Suarez I'm sorry I don't see his resume in here if you
want to change the policy that's fine,
Mayor Ferre: Alright we have a nomination of Linda Eads, Xavier Suarez,
who everybody knows, Manny Mendoza wino ha.s already served you don't
need his and Jim Cassel and you'll have his resume tomorrow.
Commissioner Gibson: I, Hazel grant,
Mayor Ferre: Who and Hazel Grant.
Commissioner Gibson: She is already served and you have her material
there.
Mayor Ferre: Alright now the,following people are nominated pending
that their resume are sent to the Manager's Office.
Mr. Fosmoen: For your...for distribution to you.
Mayor Ferre: For distribution to all members of the commission.
Commissioner Gibson: Mine, mine is already...
Mayor Ferre: In the meantime there are Linda Eads who everybody knows,
Xavier Suarez whom almost everybody knows, Manuel.Mendoza...
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Commissioner Plummer: Armando doesn't know him.
Mayor Ferre: Who? Jimmy Cassel, you all know, Marwin Cassel this
is Marwin Cassel's son Jimmy, ok and Hazel Grant, we all know.
Commissioner Lacasa: Manuel Mendoza,
Mayor Ferre: Manuel Mendoza is here alright is there a motion now
for these five?
Commissioner Plummer: Moved
.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer, seconded by Gibson pending that their
resumes be sent to the Manager's office for distribution call the roll
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-673
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO THE CITY
OF MIAMI AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
73. DESIGNATE DELEGATE TO 54TH AAINUAL CONVENTION OF FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF CITIES
Mayor Ferre: Alright who wants to be the Florida League of
cities?
Commissioner Plummer: I nominate Armando Lacasa. You've got to be
consistent this is Lacasa's day in the barrel.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, is there a second? Lacasa representing the Cities
of the Florida League of Cities.
Mayor Ferre: Alright is there a second?
Commissioner Carollo: We'll second that, under the circumstances.
Mayor Ferre: Alright further discussion call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption
RESOLUTION NO, 80-674
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING ARC+UNDO LACASA AS THE CITY'S
VOTING DELEGATE TO THE 54TR ANNUAL. CONVENTION OF THE
FLORIDA LEAGUE OV CITIES TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 23, 24,
AND 25, 1980 IN BAL HARBOR, FLORIDA,
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Com=issioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice h,ayur Lacasn
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
74. AUTHORIZI? C-i.TY MAXACrR TON GOTTATI' AGRE}:;tENT:
COCON11T GROVE, BICYCLE CLUB INC. FOR
"THE GREAT COCONUT CROVE BICYCLE RACE"
Mayor Ferr: Alright now we have authorizing the manager to execute an
agreement with Cocunut Grove Bicycle Club Inc. for purposes of conducting
the Greater Miami Grove Bike. Father Gibson moves.
Commissioner Plummer: Seconded.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Plummer further discussion call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Gibson,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-675
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANACFR TO EXECUTE THF.
ATTACHED AGREEMENT WITH A NON--PRG'i'IT ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS
THE COCONUT GROVE BIG-iCLE CLUB. YNC. FOR THE PURPOSES OF
CONDUCTING THE GREAT COCONUT GROVE BICYLE RACE AND PROVIDING
THE NECESSARY POLICE SERVICES :11' TEE' CITY OF MIAMI PoLyCE
DEPARTMENT IN CONJUNCTION THEREWITH: TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER
22,23,24,25 AND 26, 1980; FURTHER CONDITIONALLY CLOSING
CERTAIN STREETS IN THE CITY DURING DESIGNATED TIMES SUBJECT
TO INSURANCE OF PERMITS BY THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT,
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by i-1;e following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
75. DEFERRAL OF APPOINTMENT: N0MER OF UPBAN DEVELOPMENT I
REVIEW BOARD
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Mayor Ferre; Who's Ronald,..Donald Sackman please? Angela?
Mr. Fosmoen: He's the ar.rhitect.
Ms. Bellamy: Yes.
Commissioner Plunmer: Who are the other names?
Ms. Bellamy: That was the other names ... the only names submitted by
the American Institute of. Architects.
Mayor Ferre: The only names submitted?
Ms. Bellamy: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Well you tell them that that's riot the way we operate.
They can not...
Commissioner Caroll.o: I thank we ought to defer that then.
Mayor Ferre: Well I think we have to do more than that Joe, we have
to write them and tell them that the}'re suppose to give us more than
one choice aren't they? Is that correct:?
Commissioner Carollo: It would be nice.
Mr. Fosmoen: 1111 contact them.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah you know they sent us one name I think they
ought to give us ,itt: .leatit two people to choose from.
Mayor Ferre: The items been deferred moved by Carollo,
seconded by Plummer further discussion call the roll on deferral of
sixty two.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING fflTION TO DEFER AGENDA
ITEM NO. 62 was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, and seconded by Commissioner Plummer,
and was passed and adopted by unanimous vote.
76. CALL & PROVIDING FOR: SPECIAL. ELECTION- NOVEMBER 4, 1980
PROPOSEI) CHARTER AMEND4IENT
Mayor Ferre: We did sixty four take up sixty five.
Commissioner Carollo: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Alright moved by Carollo is there...
Commissioner Carollo: This is for put in for consideration of
Watson Island right here in the November fourth elections
Commissioner Pl.ummer: We what?
Commissioner. Carollo: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Alrights it's been moved is there a second ? Come on.
Seconded by Plummer.Further discussion ?This is the retainage
Plummer goes from ten percent to two and half, everybody is in
agreement with it the manager recommends, you've got a long memoradum
on it you spent all week end reading it, I know.
Commissioner Plummer: This is for more minority hiring.
Mayor Ferre: Call. the roll.
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The following reso1L1t1'_0:, •.rl.s lritroduced b_y Caroll0 who
moved its adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-676.1.
A RLSOLUTI.ON A PROPUS'E" j Cii :TER AM'::NDMENT,
Ki;Ow^i AS CPARTIEf". A't:':\f??.,.,,;T '*0, 1., A'•t:::IDING Sl?IiSi.CTION
56(Ij OF T;Ir C.}i.�.i� ::i; (i }; CITY 0" ?1LA':.i TO PROVIDE FOR
A REDUCTION IN Till: eoto,.;Nr OY CASH PAY7,-1EN1 WTTHHELD BY
THE CITY FOR UP TO 60 TIDA` ,..:; AFTFi< ITS ACCEPTANCE OF A
COhfPLET:I:i) CTTY LOCAI, i`11PROVE'1EN'i CONSTitUCTTON CONTRACT
k'IT}i THE Rr:TATNE7 AM0,,NT BEING I•;EDUCED F"iO11 1.0%, TO
2-1/2i:: OF THE ESTIMA'i i."D CON'i PACT COST DUE THE CONTRACTOR
PF:RFOR'�tli;G SiiCH CONTRACT.
Upon Reim; seconded by Conr,,is ;i.ont_r Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following, vote:
AYESCarul.lo
Com^lissLuncr (3ib poll
Commissioner. Plummer
Vice Mayor Lnca: ,a
Mayor Maurict:: A. Verse
NOES: None
Mlayor 'Ferret ;�o;r 1_c•C'.:. %.'ote on or the ;,.i:1i1,•:; c;i tili! ci?E:Cla
Election. lt':. e'.!fl lllOved .Gild C:C'.I(1C::, .Lirt(leT f.li,,ckisalon (_-ali_ the roll.
i'h0 Fo1.1iow i:l, rC's010t iOII 'rlii;i .ISiL1"i)d11L:UL! by COlrmi S Si: .1eT' Car0110 Who
rio%led its adoption.
i:i:;:OLL'T1i)N NO. 80-676.2
A RESOLUTION (:a'i..LTNU AND PROVTDT:;G FOR A SPECTAT, Mf NICIPAL
ELECTION TO BE PEI,D ON ThE +TH DAY OF NOVE,,MER, 1980,.FOR
'CHF nuU i js., 0. suw- 17 ril\i> '1'0 TN'z, ()JIAL,IFIF:D Ia.,L''CTORS OF
THF, CITY OF MIAMI FOR THEIR APPROVAL, OR DISAPPROVA'., A
i�tI:ASURE FNO`ti:; AS "C(liY1:Tl.R A 1F,ivrl)IIlNT NO. 1", AMI:NDTNG SUB-
SECTION 56 (:I) OF THE i;HARTER OF THE CITY OF MT,*11 , FLORIDA
BY PROVIDINC, THAT THE At• OUNT Or CASH PAYMENT DUE A CONTRAC-
TOR PERFOF.�ITj1G A LOCAL T.MPROVr:MiENT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
AND WHICH PAYMENT TS R"E,AfNZ1) BY THE CTTY FOR UP TO 60
DAY`; AFTER THE CI T Y' S ACCEI'TANC:E OF THE COMPLETED LOCAL
1WROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION BL REDUCED FROM 1.0% TO.21/2% OF
T14F: ESTIMATED CONTRACT C()S't'' !)*CR- F.CTING THE CITY CLERK TO
CAUSE A CERTIFIED COPY HEREOF TO BE DELIVERED TO THE SUPER-
VISOR OF ELECTIONS 01'' DA'_)I: COUNTY NOT LESS 'THAN FORTY-FIVE
DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF SUCH SPECIAL I•IUNICIPAL ELECTION.
Upon being seconded by Comrilissioner-?IUMner, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner PIUMMOr.
Vice Mayor Lac isa
Mayor Iiauricf-• A. Ferre
NOES: None
77. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: N:Y fI ;C; CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
T11E "DON A. HICKMAN BUILDING
Commissioner Carollo: Move sixty fix -
Commissioner Lacasa: Seconded.
Mayor Ferre: Alright it's been moved and seconded it. Ok call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who
moved it's adoption.
RESOLUTION NO. 80-677
A RESOLUTION NAMING THE CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATION
BUILDING, LOCATED AT 275 N.W. 2ND STREET, THE 'DON A
HICKMAN BUILDING', IN HONOR OF DON A. HICKMAN, AN
INDIVIDUAL WHOSE OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND EXEMPLARY
CITY SERVICES NOT ONLY RESULTED IN DESERVED PRAISE AND
RESPECT FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI FIRE DEPARTMENT BUT ALSO
BROUGHT NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL DISTINCTION TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote.
AYESt Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Mayor, just in a way of a reminder that's scheduled for
September twenty six 7the dedication of that building,
Commissioner Plummer: Hah?
Mr. Fosmoen: September twenty sixth.
Commissioner Plummer; Marie, what happened to the twenty ninth?
Marie: On what?
Commissioner Plummer; On the dedication. He's saying the twenty sixth;
you told me the twenty...
Mr. Fosmoen: I retract my statement, I will notify you when the
dedication is.
Marie: It's been changed to the thirtieth.
Commissioner Plummer: It's been changed again to the thirtieth?
Mayor Ferre: Well ok, you let us know what day it's on now,
Commissioner Carollo: Is the President coming as was scheduled?
Commissioner Plummer; Yes.
Mayor Ferre; The President is not coming.
78. RATIFYING, APPROVE, CONFIRM AGREEMENT WITH LATIN AMERICAN
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE -for FIRST HEMISPHERIC CONGRESS OF LATIN
AMERICAN CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, we're on item sixty seven.
Commissioner Lacasa; Mr. D1ayor7item sixty seven�l move that beside that
since as we all are aware 'af this particular event was a tremendous success
due to the cooperation of the Latin Chamber of Cbmmerce and the Evelio
Ley & Association group ended up in what has been one of the most impor-
tant promotional events that the City of Miami has had this year. I
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Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Carollo further discussion call the roll.
The following; resolution was introuduced by Commissioner Lacasa,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-678
A 12,rSOL!'TTON RATIFYING, APPROVING A`ID CONFIRMING
THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN EXECUTING THE
ATTACHED AGREEMENT I;EII-X' EX THE CITY OF MIA`1I AND
THE LATI`I AMERICAN CHAM-BER OF CO`NERCE OF THE
UNITED STATES, FOR PREPARING, COORDINATING AND
SUPERVISING THE FIRST HP- 11SPRERIC CONGRESS OF
LATIN A`IERICAN CHA? BIBS OF COM``iERCE HELD IN MIAMI
DURING SEPTEMB ER .1.1-13, 1980, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED
THEREFOR I`=X THE CITY'S CONTINGENCY FUND, IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000.
Upon bel.ng seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following; vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
`favor t'erre
NOES: None
FOLLOW'I.NG ROLL CALL
Mayor Ferre: Alright now I have a question please, I have a
question on that and the question is did the County put up as
much as we did on that?
Commissioner Lacasa: Hemispheric? I don't know how much they
put but they put...
Mayor Ferre: My question is we put up twenty five thousand dollars
how ankh did the county put up on that?
Mr. Fosmoen: My Mayor, I can't answer your question but I will
find out.
Mayor Ferre: Would you answer if for me in writing please?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer.: How much dj.o the county put up on the
Hemispheric_ Congress?
Commissioner Carollo: Are we ad]ourned now?
Mayor Ferre: No we've got a couple of other items, it won't
be long now it will be another minute or two. Alright we must
move along now.
79. RESOLUTION: ADJUST CURRENT BUDGHT AS A RESULT 04" BUDGET
RI'.VIEW
(Current annual appropriations ordinance)
Mayor Ferre: Wh.aE is tha next .itum please?
Mr. Fosmoen: Sixteen
Mayor Ferre: Sixteen, I don't remember the.., oh yes, you're
right. This i.q,amending erections one and five of ordinance 9000
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adopted October...
Commissioner Carollo: I don't understand that.
Mayor Ferre: ...The annual appropriation ordinance of the fiscal
year ending September thirtieth amended for the purpose of adjusting
the budget as a result of a budget review. Mr. Manager, you're
recognized for the discussion of this item.
Commissioner Carollo: U.S. Souther Country Boys, Dick, you just
wave it above our heads. Can you get down to our level?
Mr. Fosmoen: Mr. Gary is here, this an effort to close out the
fiscal year with a balanced budget. Mr. Gary would you expand?
Mr. Howard Gary: Sure, yes. What this ordinance simply does is
to adjust the budget to reflect the changes that have occured
since the adoption of the budget. This is to insure that our
books are clean, that our budget is balanced and it's just good
management. It's no need of having fictious money on the books
when those funds do not exist.
Mayor Ferre: Will. the gentlemen yield for a question?
Mr. Gary: In essence what this reflects is that during the course
of the year Commissioner Caroll.o we did not receive two million
dollars that we anticipated at the beginning at the year, most of
this was attributable to countercyclical Revenue Sharing which
we had in the budget approximately a million dollars which Congress
did not re-enact. Another is due to the fact that utilities service
tax due to conservation that you know because of the high tax bills
I mean electrical bills, people are using less, these ... those are
major decreases. I would also like to bring your attention that
in this year's budget we had approximately what was that? Three
point two million dollars for scale fees however, when the
ordinance was passed it passed with the understanding that those
scale fees would be collected from January to December which means
we have over lapping fiscal years so we didn't get a million there.
To offset that we have saved or we have not expended approximately
a net of one million dollars in the appropriations which leaves us
with a short fall in this year's budget of a million dollars.
Commissioner Carollo: Howard, I believe you and I believe Dick
but like the old saying goes you know no dicky no laundry and I
prefer all of this in writing so that I could sit down and compre-
hend a little better.
Mr. Gary: It's right here sir.
Commissioner Carollo: Well it's not explained as well there as
what you've stated to me so can we get a little...
Commissioner Plummer: Let me explain it to you, it's called waive
the magic. wand called Florida Power and Franchise. That's what it's
called.
Commissioner Carollo: That's what I'm afraid of Plummer where
you're waiving it or sticking it to.
Mayor Ferre: Would the gentlemen yield for a friendly question?
Mr. Fosmoen: Yes he would.
Mayor Ferre: The friendly question is would you classify this
as"a mother hood issue?
Mr. Gary: Well from our audit standpoint, and from our management
standpoint I would, if I may Mr. Mayor one of the concerns that
was brought up by the Unions and they took to the S.E.C. is the fact that we
do not manage our fiscal affairs. Now this is one those processes
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whereby we are showing that we are managing our fiscal affairs, where
we are keeping tabs on the revenues we are going to receive and where
we are keeping tabs on our expenditures to insure that the City does
not expend more than it's going to receive.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Gary.
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Does this take a four fifth vote?
Mr. Gary: No it does not.
Commissioner Plummer.: You're in good shape.
Mayor Ferre: Would somebody move item sixteen so we can move along
please?
Commissioner Plummer: I move to deny. You said to move it.
Mayor Ferre: 'There's a motion... come on let eo one way or
the other. There's a motion on the floor now. accept It.
Commissioner Carollo: Your move would be to deny it?
Commissioner Plummer: I moved to defer it and take it in as part
of the budget hearing.
Commissiuner Carollo: That's what I was going to suggest Plummer.
Mayor Ferre: There's a motion and a second...
Mr. Gary: I have a problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: Under discussion Mr. Gary.
Mr. Gary: I have a problem with that. One of the requirements by
"SEC agreement was that we would bring accounting assistance in...
Commissioner Carollo: Excuse me Howard, what are...
Mr. Gary: ...Well if you recall during the last election the Unions
took us to the Security Exchange Commission alleging that our
fiscal affairs was not in good order.
Mayor Ferre: Alright gentlemen it is nine o'clock we must pass
this .
Commissioner Plummer: I won't do that I withdraw the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright is there a motion for this item?
Commissioner Gibson: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Gibson seconded by Lacasa further discussion
call the roll.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a -minute, wo, wo, wo,
somebody's lying to me now I don't mind you ... wait a minute, some-
body lying to me
Mayor Ferre: It is not an emergency item is it?
Mr. Fosmoen: It's an emergency ordinance...
Mayor Ferre: You're not going to pass an emergency ordinance?
You're going to get three votes.
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Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor please, please I've got no problem
with passing an emergency ordinance I am not going to put this city's bond
rating in jeopardy when I ask a question do you need four fifths:s
the answer...
Mayor Ferre: I didn't think you would.
Mr. Gary: I said no because I didn't know it was an emergency.
Commissioner Plummer: Alright we cleared the record call your roll.
Mayor Ferre: You got any problems with this?
Commnissioner Plummer: No I am not going to put the city's bonding
facility in jeopardy.
Mayor Ferre: Read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 AND 5 OF
ORDINANCE NO. 9000, ADOPTED OCTOBER 17, 1979, THE
ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1980, AS AMENDED; FOR THE PURPOSE
OF ADJUSTING THE FY 1980 BUDGET TO REFLECT CHANGES
THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE ADOPTION OF SAME; CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SAME ON
TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR
FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Gibson and seconded by Commissioner
Lacasa for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensign with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Gibson and
seconded by Commissioner Lacasa, adopted said ordinance by the
following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 9165
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record
and announced that copies were available to the members of the
City Commission and to the public.
ON ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Carollo: Can I just get an answer why we would put the
City's bonds 4n jeopardy if this wait until thursday, simple question?
Mr. Fosmoen: One of the things that the SEC told us is that we
must close out the year with a balanced budget. This is an effort to
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to close out the year with a balanced budget.
Commissioner Carollo: What if...what would it cost then if we wait
until thursday, like Plummer suggested.
Mr. Fosmoen: Until the twenty fifth?
Commissioner Carollo: Thursday, thursday, we meet again thursday
for the special budget review committee meeting.
Mayor Ferre: Yeah, we have a budget.
Mr. Fosmoen: That's a workshop it's not a...
Commissioner Plummer: It's not a regular meeting.
Mr. Fosmoen...It's not a noticed meeting.
Commissioner Carollo: And our year closes by what date?
Mr. Gary: September thirtieth. If I...
Commissioner Carollo: Well shoot the the twenty fifth you're have
plenty time.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Gary: Want me to respond.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sure if you want to respond.
Mr. Gary: Ok there's two reasons the first is that we're bringing
in Peat Marwick and Mitchell here early to do our audits, they're
here now, once they record in their preliminary report that we...
our budget is not balanced that information is received by Tallehassee
as well as the SEC wo we're concerned bout that. The second thing
is that it's a state law that says that if we do not have a zero
fund balance or if we're in the red for two given fiscal years they
can come in and take over your books.
Mayor Ferre: Alright
Commissioner Carollo: Howard would you stake your reputation on
this?
Mr. Gary: Yes I will.
Commissioner Plummer: You just lost my vote.
80. CONDOLENCE'S TO FAMILU OF THE LATE ROBERT HAVERFIELD
Mayor Ferre: Alright we have a resolution that Mr. Plummer wants to
move a resolution expressing deepest sorrow and grief by the
City Commission on behalf of the citizens to the family and friends
of Robert Haverfield, seconded by Theodore Gibson and further dis—
cussion call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer
' who moved its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 80-679
A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING DEEPEST SORROW AND GRIEF BY
THE CITY COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF
ROBERT M. HAVERFIELD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Vice Mayor Lacasa
Mayor Ferre
NOES: None
81. URGE CIVIL AERONAUTICS BOARD TO DESIGNATE PAN AMERICAN
WORLD AIRWAYS TO PERFORM AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE BEITIEEN
U.S.A. & CHINA
Mayor Ferre: Now we have a resolution urging the Civil Aeronautics
Board CAB to designate Pan American World Airway to perform the
air transport service agreed upon between the government of the
United States of America and People's republic of China further
directing the City Clerk to forward a copy to the Chairman of the
C.A.H. Plummer moves, Gibson seconds further discussion.
Commissioner Plummer: I move we send Lacasa on the first trip.
Mayor Ferre: Alright is there further discussion on Pan American
this is ... we're backing Pan American to have the flights from U.S.A.
to China.
Commissioner Carollo: What other airlines sir competing for this?
Mayor Ferre: None that are in Miami, not Eastern, not Delta not any
of the Miami oriented. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 80-680
A RESOLUTION URGING THE CIVIL AERONAUTICS BOARD
(CAB) TO DESIGNATE PAN AMF:RICAN WORLD AIRWAYS TO
PERFORM THE AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE AGREED UPON BE—
TWEEN THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA AND THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA; FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO FORWARD A COPY OF THE
HEREIN RESOLUTION TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CIVIL
AERONAUTICS BOARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Gibson, the resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Gibson
Commissioner Plummer
Mayor Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Carollo
Commissioner Lacasa
Absent: None 187
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SEP 151980
ADJOURNMENT :
There being no further business to come before the City
Commission, on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was
adjourned.
Attest: Ralph G. Ongie
City Clerk
Matty Hirai
Assistant City Clerk
Maurice A. Ferre
Mayor
SEP 151980
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ITEM NO DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
1 CITY COMMISSION AGENDA AND CITY CLERK'S REPORT
2 DESIGNATING CITY OF MIAMI A BILINGUAL AND BICULTURAL
CITY
3 8TH ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK OCTOBER 3RD THROUGH
.00TOBER 12TIl 1980-STREET CLOSING
4 GRANT APPLICATION $400,000 ETHANOL PRODUCTION PLANT
FEASIBILITY GRANT BY U.S.S. ENGINEERS AND CONSULTANT
INC.
5 AGREEMENT WITH PEAT, MARWICK, MITCHELL & COMPANY FOR
CONDUCTING AUDIT OF THE BOOKS FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 1981
6 APPROVING DESIGN OF THE PARKING GARAGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED
BY MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES,INC.
7 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER PURCHASE THREE LOTS LOCATED
SOUTH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD
8 ACCEPT BID OF LEMON TREE ICES FOR DAVID-KENNEDY PARK;
CARLOS PASCUAL INC. FOR GRAPELAND PARK AND TOM BOCCIO
FOR PEACOCK FOR MOBILE FOOD OPERATIONS
I
i 9 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SELL TO FPL,THE 15KV
UNDERGROUND FACILITIES IN THE DINNER KEY AREA
10 ACCEPT BID MOTOROLA C & E, 'INC. FOR FURNISHING 14 RADIO
BASE STATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE
11 SEALED BIDS FOR COMPUTER SOFTWARE PACKAGE'FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS
12 APPOINTING A MEMBER OF T14E CITY COMMISSION TO THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT INC.
.13 APPOINTING A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION AS
REPRESENTATIVE AT A WORKING TRADE MISSION IN SPAIN
14 CONTRACT TO M.A.I. APPRAISER F. ROBERT QUINLIVAN FOR
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
15 ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK OF FRANK J. MORAN INC. FOR
COMPUTER POWER SUPPLY
16 ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK OF P.N.M. CORPORATION FOR
LITTLE HAVANA MINI -PARK
17 ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK OF SANDRON CORPORATION FOR
VIRRICK GYM
MICROFILMING COMPLETED
MAGAZINE NO, 1 �"
R-80-624
R-80-629
R-80-633
R-80-635
R-80-636
R-80-638
R-80-640
R-80-641
R-80-642
R-80-643
R-80-644
R-80-645
R-80-646
R-80-647
R-80-648
R-80-649
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80-624
80-629
80-633
80-635
80-636
80-638
80-640
80-641
80-642
80-643
80-644.
80-645
80-646
80-647
80-648
80-649
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18
ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK OF DMP CORPORATION FOR SOUTHER]
DRAINAGE PROJECT
R-80-650
80-650
19
ACCEPTING COMPLETED WORK BY RECIO AND ASSOCIATES,INC.
FOR COCONUT GROVE BUSINESS AREA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
R-80-651
80-651
20
PUBLIC HEARING BUDGET GUSMAN HALL AND OLYMPIA BUILDING
FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1981
R-80-652
80-652
21
PUBLIC HEARING BUDGET DEPT. OF OFF-STREET PARKING FISCAL
YEAR ENDING SEPT. 30, 1981
R-80-653
80-653
22
OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY GOODWIN,INC. OF AVALON SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT
R-80-654
80-654
23
OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION
OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY IACOBELLI CONTRACTING,
INC. OF CRESTWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
R-80-655
80-655
24
ACCEPTING BID OF FLORIDA MUNICIPAL SALES,CO. FOR
FURNISHING 3 STREET SWEEPERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE
R-80-657
80-657
24
ACCEPTING BID OF LANZO CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR
RIVERVIEW STORM SEWER PROJECT -PHASE I
R-80-658
80-658
25
ACCEPT BID OF FLORIDA PUMP AND TANK,INC.
FOR FUELING FACILITY
R-80-659
80-659
26
TO CONTINUE EMPLOYMENT OF SERVICES LAW FIRM OF SPARBER,
SHEVING, ROSEN, SHAPO AND HEINBRONNER
R-80-661
80-661
27
AGREEMENT WITH PUBLIC HEALTH TRUST OF DADE COUNTY
WHICH OPERATES JACKSON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL
R-80-662
80-662
28
AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE FOR THE USE
OF THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM FOR ANY MIAMI DOLPHINS
HOME PLAYOFF GAMES FOR THE 1981/1983
R-80-663
80-663
29
AUTHORIZING EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF CERTAIN SANITARY
SEWER BONDS OF 1977 IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.00
R-80-664
80-664
30
ACCEPTING BID OF QUAID INSTALLATION,INC. FOR
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PARKING LOT FENCING
R-80-665
80-665
31
ACCEPTING BID OF PITMAN PHOTO,INC. FOR FURNISHING
PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES
R-80-666
80-666
32
ACCEPTING BID OF TEKTRONIX,INC. FOR FURNISHING
INTELLIGENCE GRAPHIC COMPUTER TERMINAL FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF POLICE
R-80-667
80-667
33
ACCEPT BID OF GRAPHIC SALES INNOVATORS,INC. FOR
FURNISHING ANNUAL REPORTS DEPARTMENT OF POLICE
R-80-668
80-668
34
REMOVING CITY OF MIAMI FROM THE METRO -DADS FIRE
AND RESCUE SERVICE TO PROVIDE THE HIGH LEVEL SERVICE
PROVIDED BY THE MIAMI FIRE DEPARTMENT
R-80-669
80-669
35
PLANNING AND DESIGN OF TWO PARK COMMUNITY BUILDINGS
AT CURTIS AND WEST END PARKS
R-80-670
80-670
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36
NAMING LITTLE RIVER PARK AT N.E. SECOND AVENUE AND 80T
TERRACE THE "LITTLE RIVER COMMERCE PARK" R-80-671
80-671
37
NAMING THE PROPOSED LATIN RIVERFRONT PARK THE
"JOSE MARTI RIVERFRONT PARK" R-80-672
80-672
38
APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD R-80-673
80-673
39
DESIGNATING ARMANDO LACASA AS THE CITY'S VOTING
DELEGATE TO THE 54TH ANNUAL CONVENTIOiI OF THE FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF CITIES IN BAL HARBOR,FLORIDA R-80-674
80-674
40
AGREEMENT WITH COCONUT GROVE BICYCLE CLUB,INC.
FOR CONDUCTING THE BICYCLE RACE R-80-675
80-675
41
SETTING FORTH A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT -SUBSECTION
56(I) OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI R-80-676.1
80-676.1
42
PROVIDING FOR SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD
ON THE 4TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 1.980-CHARTER AMENDMENT
NO.1 R-80-676.2
80-676.2
43
NAMING THE CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
THE "DON A. HICKMAN BUILDING" R-80-677
80-677
44
AGREEMENT BETIIEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE LATIN
AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF THE U.S.A. R-80-678
80-678
45
CONDOLENCES - ROBERT M. HAVERFIELD R-80-679
80-679
46
URGING CIVIL AERONAUTICS BOARD TO DESIGNATE PAW
TO PERFORM AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE BETWEEN U S.A.
AND PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA R-80-680
80-680