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MINUTE-S
OF MEETING HELD ON January 14, 1982
(REGULAR)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY * HALL
RALPH G.. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
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APPROVE FUNDING FOR THE "ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE"
(SEE LABEL 65 FOR FORMALIZING RESOLUTION)
DISCUSSION OF THE "NEW WORLD FESTIVAL" FUNDING.
(A) DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED STADIUM AS IT RELATES
TO SPORTS AUTHORITY
(B) BRIEF DISCUSSION -SUPER BOWL '85
(C) DISCUSSION OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL.
DISCUSSION ITEM: F.E.C. PROPERTY ON MIAMI BAYFRONT j
(AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO FRATES LAW FIRM
DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO TAKE POSSESSION OF PROPERTY
AND INSTALL GRASS, BILL RAILROAD FOR R.O.W.,ETC.)
AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE WITH LESTER
ALLAN FETTIG FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES: REVIEW OF
CHARTER AND CODE.
APPROVE SUGGESTED "SIGNS" FOR NEW CITY OF MIAMI,
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI, JAMES L. KNIGHT, CONVENTION
CONFERENCE CENTER.
DISCUSSION ITEM: PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF CHIEF HARMS
"CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS".
CONSENT AGENDA:
DIRECT CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING -
COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION-LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT- SR-5462-C AND SR-5462-S
AUTHORIZE INCREASE IN CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $7,000
AUGUST 5/81. CONTRACT WITH P.N.M. CORPORATION FOR
COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF RIVERSIDE PARK -
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT (4TH BIDDING).
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK -SOLID WASTE FACILITY -SITE
REDEVELOPMENT.
AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF VARIOUS WASTE COLLECTION
LICENSES
RATIFY, APPROVE PAYMENT TO LAW FIRM OF BROWN, WOOD,
IVEY, MITCHELL AND PETTY FOR LEGAL SERVICES -BONDS
6 S.E.C. COMPLAINT.
AMEND RES. 81-197, HECTOR, STEEL AND DAVIS,SPECIAL
COUNSEL CLAIMS ARISING DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
RETROACTIVELY AFFIRMING ACTION OF CITY MANAGER,
CONTRACT MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: CONCESSION WITH ST. PATRICKS DAY
PARADE COMMITTEE
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CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL: GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
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DISCUSSION ITEM: BOAT SALES AT THE NEW WORLD MARINA
(MIAMARINA).
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: PHIL HAMMERSMITH REGARDING
CITY COOPERATION WITH THE FILM INDUSTRY.
DISCUSSION ITEM: FUNDING REQUEST FOR WYNWOOD
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INC. PROGRAM.
APPOINTMENT TO MIAMI DADE LIBRARY BOARD- EDMUND
HENRY ADVOCATE FULL STATE FUNDING TO THE LIBRARY
SYSTEM
DIRECT CITY CLERK TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING
REGARDING A REQUEST TO PLACE A MONUMENT IN THE MEDIAN
STRIP OF S.W. 13TH AVENUE.
APPROVE USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM WITH A
REDUCTION IN THE FEE FOR THE UNITED CEREBRAL PALSY
ASSOCIATION OF MIkMI,INC.
PUBLIC HEARING: STREET CLOSING REQUEST FOR BANYAN
TYPE FESTIVAL (DENIED).
CLOSE CERTAIN STREETS: COCONUT GROVE ARTS FESTIVAL
FEBRUARY 19, 20, 21.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ERNY FANOTTO REGARDING
TURNING OVER OF CITY OWNED FACILITIES TO THE
SPORTS AUTHORITY.
CLOSE STREETS IN CONNECTION WITH INTERNATIONAL
FAIR IN THE ORANGE BOWL JANUARY 21
THROUGH JANUARY 31, 1982.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: STUART SORG WITH MISCELLANEOUS
DISCUSSION ITEMS CONCERNIGN WATERFRONT BOARD
PROPOSALS.
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: STEVEN HEITZ, MORNINGSIDE
CIVIC ASSOCIATION REGARDING PROPOSED IMPACT PLAN
CODE ENFORMCEMENT OF ZONING.
FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: HAITIAN SOCIAL
SERVICE PROGRAM.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: HAITIAN' AMERICAN COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATION OF DADE INC. (H.A.C.A.D.)
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 14-29
DOWNrrOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD- REMOVAL
OF MEMBERS.
ALLOCATE $30,000.00 AND SOLICIT BIDS FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF A MODEL OF THE BAYFRONT AREAS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI.
DISCUSSION ITEM: INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGAT
POSSIBILITY OF REVIVAL OF "PART: AND RIDE" SERVICE
BY M.T.A. FROM THE ORANGE BOWN TO DOWNTOWN MIAMI
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APPROVE AMENDED LEASE AGREEMENT: CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB,
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CUTS IN SOCIAL SERVICE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FUNDS -DEFERRED FOR FURTHER STUDY.
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DISCUSSION ITEM -CITY ATTORNEY'S COMPENSATION
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ADJUST BASE SALARIES OF CITY CLERK AND ASSISTANT
CITY CLERK -FURTHER PROVIDE POSITIONS OF CITY CLERK
AND CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE THE 2% COST OF LIVING
ADJUSTMENT APRIL 1982.
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DISCUSSION OF SALARY OF MARIE PETITP ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT TO THE MAYOR
APPROVE PROPOSED POLICY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE
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SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST AREA PROJECT.
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DISCUSSION ITEM: COLLECTION OF TRASH AND GARBAGE
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APPOINT RALPH GISBERT AS A MEMBER OF THE CIVIL
SERVICE BOARD COMMENDING LESLIE PANTIN FOR HIS
SERVICE ON THE BOARD.
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DISCUSSION ITEM: CITY COMMISSION MEETING GUIDELINES
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ACCEPT BID: TRUSTEE SERVICES OF PROPOSED SALE OF
PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$12,000,000.
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ALTHORIZE INCREASE IN CONTRACT: EVENSON DODGE, INC.
FOR HOUSING FINANCIAL ADVISORY SERVICES FOR PRODUCTION
OF LOW/MODERATE INCOMES.
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ACCEPT BID: AUTOMOTIVE DRIVE ON RACK
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ACCEPT BID: MOTOR VEHICLES.
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ACCEPT BID: DAY CARE FOOD PROGRAM
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FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: LOCAL
GOVERNMENT CRIME CONTROL PROGRAM.
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AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT: ROBERT M. WEBSTER AS FIRE
COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND RECORDS CONSULTANT.
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ACCEPT BID: OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE FINANCE
DEPARTMENT.
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ACCEPT BID: CITY HALL FINANCE OFFICE RENOVATIONS.
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FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: APPROPRIATING
FROM UNALLOCATED F P & L FUNDS TO INCREASE
APPROPRIATION FOR RENOVATION OF GENERAL ACCOUNTING.
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EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: OPERATION OF MARINE STADIUM
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FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE
APPROPRIATION OF THE MAYORS OFFICE-1 POSITION
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SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE -OPERATING COSTS OF LITTLE HAVANA
COMMUNITY CENTER
FIRST AND SECOND READING ORDINANCE: DELETE ALL
REFERENCES IN THE CODE TO "LEISURE SERVICES DEPARTMENT
SUBSTITUTE WORDS:"RECREATION DEPARTMENT".
APPROVE EFFORTS OF FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES - 1C
INCREASE IN SALES TAX- MX RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE '
OF FLORIDA
APPROVING TERMINATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM SBID-WYNWOOD.
EXECUTE RETROACTIVE AGREEMENT: ECONOMIC PLANNING
ACTIVITIES RENDERED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE
TRADE AND COMMERCE DEPARTMENT.
ACCEPT BID AUDIO INTELLIGENCE DEVICE.
GRANT USE OF COKMISSION CHAMBERS FOR A CEREMONY �
"JOSE MARTI."
GRANT WAIVER OF USE FEE FOR LITTLE HAVANA
COMMUNITY CENTER ELECTIONS FOR OFFICERS OF CUBAN
MUNICIPALITIES IN EXILE.
APPROVE REQUEST BY "ACTION" FOR $12,560. FOR MATCHING
GRANT FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN
CONTINUE TO OPERATE THEIR 4 VANS,
FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: ST. PATRICKS DAY PARADE.
ADJUST SALARY OF CITY CLERK, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK AND
PROVIDE FOR 2% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR CITY CLERK
AND CITY ATTORNEY.
WAIVE COMPETITIVE BIDDING: CONTINUANCE OF SYSTEMATIC
MAINTENANCE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES -INTEGRATED
PROTECTION SYSTEM AT CITY POLICE STATION.
WAIVE COMPETITIVE BIDDING: MAINTENANCE OF POLICE
COMPUTER SYSTEMS.
MOTION TO RENAME MANOR PARK:
"CHARLIE HADLEY PARK".
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CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 14th day of January, 1982, the City Commission of Miami,
Florida, met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan
American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:05 A.M., by Mayor Maurice Ferre
with the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummner, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ALSO PRESENT WERE:
Howard V. Gary, City Manager
George F. Knox, City Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Reverend Gibson who then led those
present in a pledge of allegiance to t.,� flag.
On motion duly made and seconded by the City Commission, the Idinutes
for the meeting(s) of (a) Regular Meeting of October 7, 1981 and November
12, 1981 were approved.
1 • APPAW.G F'JivDIX FOR TfZ; "ST. PA='RIC+C' S LAY PARA Z" -
(See Label 65 for formalizing Resolution)
Mayor Ferre: The first item before us is the discussion of the St. Patrick's
Day Parade funding.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, is it possible for us to discuss Agenda Item 36
at the same time we discuss item A?
Mayor Ferre: Sure, I have no objection.
Mr. Dawkins: 'Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager, we are now on item A. These gentlemen
and lady have been us, I think, for three meetings in a row, patiently wait-
ing for hours and hours to be heard. There is a letter fran John Shields
previous to this, I think, requesting -as I recall it was $15,000, wasn't it?
What was the request? (INAUDIRI.F RESPONSE WAS NOT PLACED IWO THE PUBLIC
RDCORD)
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: $33,000, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: All right, sir, go ahead. Sir, the request is for $33,000?
Mr. Dan Brennan: Originally, yes, sir. My name is Dan Brennan, Chairman
of the Parade, I live on Key Biscayne and we appreciate the opportunity to
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come back to you. Traditionally, we have come before this Ccamission to
secure the funding for the Parade, and this year we asked to go before the
Festival Advisory Carmittee, which we did, submitted our applications, and
our request was for $33,000, we'll get into that detail later on. It was
cut significantly. They told us we would get $15,000 and then dawn to $9,000.
We are here this morning to try to let you see what this Parade has done for
the City of Miami. First, St. Patrick's bay Parade is not an ethnic parade
nor is it a neighborhood parade. St. Patrick's Day Parades began in 1779 in
New York City so it's an American tradition, they don't celebrate it in Ireland
like it is celebrated here. We brought some posters to try to emphasize this
to you this morning and we hope that we can adequately point this out to you. E
This is a story from the Miami Herald which appeared the day after last year's
Parade. And it's an interview with eight Irish journalists who were brought --
here with our intercession. Normally, they go to New York City to cover the a -
Parade and they mane to Miami, and all of their remarks were extremely favor-
able, not only about the Parade but about the City of Miami and its environs.
That'kind of publicity, of course, is very important. We have in our
brochures -if you would distribute these- copies of these articles. This
is a letter from the Bank of Ireland. A gentleman who came here expressly to
see the Parade, who wrote rather a glowing letter to us about the Parade but
also it was a great pleasure to tell our many friends all about Miami and
all the better if they can plan a holiday there which would include the St.
Patrick's Day Parade. And this article, headline article, "St. Pat's Day in
Miami" is from the Dublin Evening Herald. And Ith_ink these articles certain-
ly give witness to the publicity which we have generated which is what we have _
attempted to do throughout the years. In this particular article he says,
for example: "The post -Parade party which was held at Omni, which overlooks
this magnificent City, its beaches and seashore." And another paragraph:
"The Mardi Grass in New Orleans, just a week ago, is now facing stiffer ccm-
petition." And in another paragraph: "As many as 15,000 Irish people are
expected to holiday in Miami this year." Along that same thought, I want to
point out to you a :r_'ecent development Sal Gellman, who many of you know,
who is the Manager of the Columbus Hotel, at his request, he and I are going
over to Dublin the first week in February, he has organized a tour from there
with the cooperation of Air Florida, who are working with us on the Parade,
incidentally, to bring people here from the Parade to kick off a tour to —
Miami for the rest of the year bringing people from Ireland and England to _
the Parade. We think that this Parade more than any other event that I know
of, and we, of course, want to exclude, the Orange Baal Parade. We know that
that's tradition, that it's drawing a lot of attention, but we think that we
have proven track record of doing something worthwhile for this City. This
is the'International European Tourist Service Book in'which we have placed
an ad which states: "Came, march in the sun in Miami, Florida." I want to
point out that all of these stories -although we are partially funded by Dade
County- all of the stories say "Riami". The date lines are "Miami", and this
is k&iat we want to stress to you. This full page ad is paid for by our Com-
mittee. This souvenier book which you have —and, incidentally, if you look
at page 38, we have the photographs of last year's Commissioners and we assure _
you that we will correct it for the 1982 edition so that we hve the new Com-
missioners on here. This is also distributed in Europe and in the Northeast.
In short we really have got the Parade well under way. Last week I received
a call from the New York City Police Department who want to send their Esmerald
Society Pipe Band here for our Parade. That kind of publicity will hit the
New York papers and other paper as well. What we need is to get back to at
least a better portion of our original request so that we can adequately
promote the Parade, and get it advertised and get people down here for that
week. And I'd like to introduce now -I think that concludes my remarks -
John Shields, who can give you a history of the Parade. Thank you.
Mr. John Shields: Mr. Mayor, members of the Cam mission. John Shields. My
office address is in the City of Miami at 25 W. Flagler. I'll be very brief
gentlemen. About four years ago, the Esmerald Society of South Florida, which
is approximately now, 400 men in the Miami area, in the City of Miami itself,
decided to form a Parade Committee. ittee. There were about four of us that first
day and people said it couldn't be done. Well, Mr. Mayor, you were there
on Flagler Street that first year and maybe some of the other gentlemen too
but I renanber you, Mr. Mayor; and we did it, and we've done it each year,
and this is a true Miami Parade, the greatest sight in the world is to see
is to see a Miami or a South Florida band that's 90% Latin, or Black, and
their colors may be purple or white, but they are playing an Irish tune
and they've got a little green carnation, and they are marching down the
street as a true American Parade. And when we see all this publicity, I
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know you know what I'm talking about, that what we did before... -those
magazine articles, those newspaper articles about Miami that hit the press -
what we've been trying to do all of these years, we want to continue, to
show a smiling, short -sleeve crowd in march enjoying a Parade, with everyone
happy and what Miami really is. We want to continue to do this and we just
need your help. They said it couldn't be done but with your help gentled
we have done it, and we are very proud of it, we hope you are proud of what —
Miami and what we have tried to do for Miami, and at this time we want to
show you something that we have professionally done, it's very short, it's
narrated by Dan Fitzgerald who is the on field M.C., in the second lead to =_
Jack Jones at the half-time show at the Orange Bowl just two weeks ago. He
is a member of the Esmerald Society and this is a video tape which Peter
O'Connor, our Parade Vice Chairman will show you. It's been distributed =
and is shown in New York, Boston and in Irish Television.
AT THIS POIDIT A VIDEO PRESENTATION WAS MADE
AND NARRATED BY MR. PETER O'CONNOR.
Mr. William Harnett: Thank you. My name is William Harnett, I'm from 2816
Ponce de Leon B1vd.,Coral Gables. We'd like to give some additional infor-
mation on our quest. Our original project was $104,000 and our request for
$32,450. Realizing the economics of the times, we went out and supplemented
that need by an additional $14,000 that we raised. So we would like to drop
our request to $20,000. At the present, you previously had awarded us $9,000
when we went through the process. This is the kind of product that we think
sells Miami, it does a good job, it goes on national T.V. in Europe, and any
other places and clubs and this is the kind of items that we want to use the
money for, for promotion. It's a promotion deal. We can put on the Parade
but we can't bring the people. And we think that the dollars expended by the
City gets dollars back to the merchants in the form of people coming down here.
We got it going, we need the additional help to keep it going and that's why
we amended our request to a total of $20,000.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you some questions. How much did the City give you
last year.
Mr. Harnett: Last year the award was $15,000 plus a negotiation for in -kind
services; however, we did not negotiate the in -kind services, we paid the in -
kind services out of the $15,000.
Mayor Ferre: Hm; much did Metropolitan Dade County give you last year?
Mr. Harnett: Last year Metropolitan Dade County gave us $10,000, this year
they gave us $15,000.
Mayor Ferre: $10,000, okay. This is what ... the third or the fourth year?
Mr. Harnett: This is the fourth year.
Mayor Ferre: The total budget is $104,000 and you are in effect asking us
to put up about 20% of the total budget. Metropolitan Dade County put up
$15,000 this year.
Mr. Harnett: Yes, sir, but Mr. Mayor, if you notice that some $25,000 is
advertising and promotion that deal outside of the area. In other words, it's
not for running it, it's to do the advertisement like this item and the adver-
tising in New York and in Boston, in Chicago, and in those areas, because
they can came march in the sun and about that time they have had it up to
here with the snow.
Mayor Ferre: The budget of the City of Miami is about $150,000,000 a year
Metropolitan Dade County's budget is more than 10 times larger, in addition
to which, the people at Metro tare this "we" and "they" attitude. Twenty
two percent of the taxpayers of Metropolitan Dade County live within the
limits of the City of Muni and 60% of the money that they collect in bed
tax which is where you got your money- ocme from within the boundaries of
the City of Miami. So, you know, we could say, like others say, we gave
at the office, we've already given, you got ...what you got was mostly collect-
ed within the boundaries of the City of Miami, we are part of Metropolitan
Dade County. We have not done that in the past because we look upon our role
in the City as one which, even though we are a much smaller government and
a much smaller budget, that we also have a fiduciary responsibility to be of
assistance to things that help the com unity as a whole than Miami specific-
ally. Now, Theodore Gibson used to say when he sat on this Commission., that
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' started to overly disregard the reomu endations of our Hoards, then we might
as well dissolve them. Why do we need Boards for if we are not going to
follow their reccmrendation. Now, in your particular case, the Board reeem-
mended $15,000 and you got cut down to $9,000. Well, I'll tell you, in fair-
ness, since Metro gave you $15,000 which is an increase over last year's $10,000.
that since we gave you $15,000 last year that we really shouldn't cut dawn un-
der that, but on the other hand I don't see how when in a few minutes we are
going to be cutting out programs for the elderly and programs for the poor and
the disadvantaged, that we can increase beyond the reoannendation. That's just
one man opinion.
Mr. Harnett: Mr. Mayor, we appreciate that, and we are well aware, this is a
totally volunteer organization and of the organizations that have been funded
-and they are very worthy projects only probably 10% of them try exceedingly
to bring the people into the area to ring the cash register for the tourist
tax deal and for the merchants. That basically is what we are designed to do
and I'm sure you know that the time to advertise is when the store is empty
not wiin it's busting with people. And those are the products that we need
to do and we think we bring immediate) results, that's why we are here, to ask
for that additional request. We, in effect, we did go through all the procedures
and we cannend you and we were there, at all meetings, regardless of whether a
quorum was present or not and the principal point is, we are just a little bit
different than the rules they've got there. We are a festival -type operation
and a parade program that is merchadised for the City of Miami, with City of
Miami datelines, you see?
Mayor Ferre: And I ccmpletely agree and concur with that and that's why I
would vote for a 66% increase which is what is being proferred over what the
Camlittee recannnded. They recamended $9,000, if you get $15,000, that's
66% increase.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor.
?Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you say the City of Miami is giving you 10% and the County
is giving you 15%. Knere is the rest of the funding caning from?
Mr. Harnett: The rest of the funding ccros from within our membership and
with the various drives that we have. We sell like license plates, we sell
advertising programs like in this book..we have a parade package for an indi-
vidual to be a Division Marshal which the corporate area oases in and buys
a so-called package which includes their floats and their participation
and advertising the whole program.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, sir, one more question. Item 36 is a Resolution
authorizing the City Manager to execute a two-day concession agreement with
the St. Patrick's Day Carmittee for concession activities at Bayfront Park.
What will happen to those fees?
Mr. Harnett: Those cronies cane into the Parade just as those funds are
used to handle the cost of the Festival in the Park and to help underwrite
the Parade. It's part of our budget.
Mr. Dawkins: To help underwrite the Parade.
Mr. Harnett: Yes, sir, and the advertising program. We have a concert, for
instance, on the 28th of February, we are bringing in the Coral Gables Country
Club and we are selling tickets for that. The profits which generate sane
$4,000 to $6,000 in each of those events go into funding the Parade.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay. So I would like to put this organization, the Kwanza
organization and Calle 8 and all the others on notice that when you have
concession rights it is to your advantage to attempt to hold these concession
fees in reserve to help you finance your protect.
Mr. Harnett: We do.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, evidently either you didn't sell enough or you didn't
reserve enough because as the Mayor said, we are at a point where we are denying
services to the citizenry in order to sponsor what you say tourist producing
entities, and I, as a Commissioner cannot sit here and attempt to deny these
services in order to sponsor a Festival, as much as I want to. As much in
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favor as I am with this, as mach as I like it, therefore, that's why I would
have to stick with the recommendation of the Festival Board because that's
what we've got because I'm going to be also requesting that other funds be
denied other agencies but I would hope that all agencies remember that when
they apply next year, those that have concession rights, should try to have
enough money to sort of off -set some of their ... most of the majority of their
costs.
Mr. Harnett: At times, for instance last year, we opened the concession to
anybody who was licensed in the City of Miami, any of those individual vendors.
The only thing we want to do is control the people, and that's why our request
here in that particular item is, to control than insofar as we don't have
everybody walking in and we have proper crowd control. We have had no inci-
dents of any kind at any of the parades we've had.
Mr. Dawkins: All you are asking for is the right to control vendors so that
vendors will not have to buy space or anything....? I mean, I'm at a loss.
Mr. Harnett: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: They will not have to buy space.
Mr. Harnett: No. There is booth space available in the park itself.
Mr. Dawkins: Is it free?
Mr. Harnett: No, the charge is for the booth itself.
Mr. Dawkins: So there is a fee.
Air. Harnett: It's a $10.00 charge.
Mr. Dawkins: It's a fee caning in, right?
Mr. Harnett: Yes.
Mr. Planner: Mr. Gary, if I may, let me ask a question of you. If we get
then $9,000, I assuDe in cash?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mir. Plummer: All right, is there anything the City can do in in -kind services
for them to possibly afford then some relief of their other assets? Let me
tell you what my problem is, it's very simple. Every one of these C Tnittees
are having problems because of what I feel is the mistake of the City of Miami
and the Mayor hit it right on the head -we gave at the office, and we are still
giving. Out of nearly $2,000,000 to put on the New World Festival -which, in
no way, am I degrading the New World Festival- the City of Miami when in addition
and gave an additional $175,000 beyond that 27% to 30% that we gave in the over-
all picture. The Festival Committee did a good job in analyzing all of the dif-
ferent festivals. It was not their fault that we took $175,000 and gave to a
lump sun. These people, as well as others, predicated their budgets upon -I
assume- the recommendation of the Festivals Committee. Now they find themselves
short and I'm not trying to find fault, I'm trying to find a solution to help
if it is humanly possible. Mr. Gary, my question to you basically, is there
anything that we can do beyond the cash grant that we have done in the way of
in -kind services to hopefully relieve sane of their other assets for other
obligations that they have.
Mr. Gary: Well, first of all, I think we should ask the Committee if they
are paying us anything for police or sanitation services.
Mr. Harnett: We have in the past and we expect to do it this time too.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's the kind of an area that we might be able to be
helpful in.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., let me tell you, be careful now, because don't forget
that when the Young Kiwanis Club and the Little Havana Group came and they
wanted us to help with the police, do you remember?, they wanted ... the chief
is around nere but I think the Chief recommended that they get 18 police
orricers, and they didn't want to get 18, didn't they end up....did we give
then those police officers? Did we help then or did they pay for then?
Mr. Gary: They paid for it, but the problem with that is that if we gave
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than in -kind it would cost us more than to get then off -duty police officers
that they pay services for at a cheaper rate.
Mr.Plummer: Well, I understand what you are saying Maurice, and I under-
stand what you are saying, Howard, okay? but let me draw a different conclu-
sion than I'm looking at. God only knows what we pay or what it costs us
in-house to do the Orange Bowl and that's something that I think under tight
dollars we are going to have to do same hard, hard looking at, including a
float for $27,000. Maurice, this is not the Calle 8, this is not Kwanza,
this, like the Orange Bowl, appeals to nation-wide and international attrac-
tions for South Florida. That is why I am willing to do whatever I can to try
to bring this more into the proper perspective. I don't know what we can do
you can only squeeze a turnip so far but I would ask of the Manager to sit
with these people and see if there is anything that we can do to try to res-
tore or cane back to the figure that they had originally banked upon in the
allocation designated by the Finance Cc m ittee. I don't know what else we
can do. I'm open for suggestions.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I agree with what you said.
Mr. Plummer: When is the Parade?
Mr. Harnett: March 13, and the Festival in the Park is March 14th this year,
it's a two-day event and...
Mr. Dawkins: Did he make a motion?
Mayor Ferre: No, he didn't make a motion, he said he is open for any...
Mr. Plummer: No, I didn't make a motion, I would just ask, Maurice, if it's
humanly possible that the Manager try and find a way to secure an additional
$6,000 worth of services for this group and to report back at the meeting of
February llth.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I'll tell you, I think what we ought to do, J.L., is
we've got -co approve the $15,000, which is an increase of $6,000, or are you
saying approve $9,000 and then the $6,000 in in -kind?
Mr. Plummer: We can do it backwards if you want, I have no problem with
that, approve the $15,000 and then hopefully the Manager can do it in in -kind
rather than, hard dollars.
Mayor Ferre: We'll do it any way you think is right.
Mr. Plummer: Howard, how would you prefer?
Mr. Howard: Ah....
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we give than a total ca nitment
of $15,000.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I would prefer to give them the $6,000 cash because
it is cheaper.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that we grant the $15,000 to the St. Patrick's
Day Parade.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Under discussion.
Mr. Dawkins: Discussion...
Mr. Plummer: That's the total.
Mr. Carollo: It's a lump sun of $15,000.
Mr. Plumper : Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Discussion on the motion. Now, We have the Advisory Board.
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Mr. Dawkins (cont Id): Are we going to adhere to the recamtiendations of the
Advisory Board or, if we are not, in the future, if we are not I would like
to see the Advisory Board discontinued, dismissed or what have you, because
I don't feel that we should have citizens volunteering their time to come
up with reommendations that we override and don't listen to..
Mr. Plumper : May I answer? Miller, we are doing exactly what was recan-
mended by the Advisory Board. They were unaware that this Carmission would
take away fray their amount of funding $175,000 and give it to the New World
Festival. All we are basically doing is living up to that cmnitment that
was delegated by the Advisory Board.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, thank you, Mr. Plummer. Okay, call the question.
Mayor Ferre: That's a very accurate portrayal. Call the question.
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THEREUPON, THE HEREIKABOVE motion duly made
by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Carollo, was passed and adopted
by unanimous vote, as follows:
AYES: Commissioner J.L. Plummer
Commissioner Demetrio Perez Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor: Joe Carollo
Mayor: Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
(NOTE: PLEASE SEE LATER FORMALIZING
RESOLUTION 82-53)
2. DI:�CUSSIal OF 1ti:. "iZ: 7 .401r D FLSTIVAL" FU1dDLZ.
Mayor Ferre: Out of courtesy to same of the people that are waiting on
sane of these itens that are here, we have the New World Festival here and
I see that Bob Hannan is here and since it is a related item, if the Com—
mission would permit me to skip unless there is an objection since this
is a related type of an item, I'd like to take the New World Festival fund-
ing. Now, just to remind you of what this is all about. We have already
agreed to fund these people and they hav
funds and are moving along. The problem
get to ask score very basic questions and you could give us the answers. I think
that were asked and if not I'll, just ou
is, if there is to be any cash flow re
of Miami be reimbursed since we are real
in 1982, giving out money to other than
will the Cristo Exhibit be self ... will it
to have a deficit, directly or indirectl
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cammitted the expenditure of these
is that last time around we didn't
Mr. Herman if you would, perhaps
you've heard the three questions
of memory, paraphrase them. One
turn to the Festival, will the City
ly not in the business of, especially
the very needed things, and, seoandly,
Day for itself or is that vnina
of public funds. And then there
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was some question about the turning over of art to Metropolitan Dade County
and the question canes up that since we are also contributors, is the City
of Miami going to be the recipient of any art work? Those are the questions.
Mr. Bob Herman: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, on the first question. Will any of
the monies if monies should remain in excess at the end of the Festival, will
any of those be returned to the City of Miami. Is the plan of the Festival
Committee that this should only be the first of many festivals. It is
thought, therefore, it has been planned, therefore, that all monies that re-
main after the first festival should be used as seed money so that we won't
have to go back for more monies for the production of the second festival.
The monies that we have requested from the City of Miami were for advertising
and promotion. If we accomplish what we hope to accomplish with that and
bring in 144,000 bed -nights in a promtional campaign world-wide in excess
of $1,000,000 or $1,500,000, then we did not plan to return monies either to
Dade County, -the City of Miami Beach, the City of Miami, or the State of
Florida, but to use it for the creation of another Festival.
Mr. Plunrer: Bob, you know, unfortunately for you I sit on the TDC. You know,
where does it end? That's what I'm wondering. Your total funds that you've
got from the TX , that 20% allocated to cultural, dedicated to the New World
Festival, you are talking about, as I recall, $1,700,000, almost 90% of that
budget for two years. You see, where I've got a problem and now I have to
wear my other hat, okay, I have to wear my hat as a City Commissioner, of that
monies that you are delegating from the TDC, as the Mayor very clearly spelled
out before, about 30% t 40% of that money is generated from the City of Miami,
all right?, not from Miami Beach, not from anywhere but from Miami. The City
of nia-mi has been thrown into the soup because of the fact that we had to
R take from our own festivals as you just heard from the St. Pat's and others,
to give yot an additional $175,000 and I just have to tell you that it is un-
fair to the people of Miami to have to give you 30% to 40% of your original
money and then another cash grant on top of it. Now, the problem is we did
it and you've got to do your figuring predicated on wilat you had to work with.
I guess really the only question I can ask at this point -is there any humanly
way possible that you can reduce that need from the City of Miami?
Mr. Herman: In the publicity and in the promotion of the Festive], it'q
Miami that receives the primary benefit, you don't hear 'oane to Dade County'
you don't hear ' cane to Miami Beach', you hear 'come to Miami' an that's the
campaign that's going to start all over the country and all over the world.
I don't see any of the other festivals being able to provide a special section
in Time Magazine which we are going to provide in March or April, I don't see
any of them getting major stories in all the in-flight magazine, PanAm putting
up $100,000 toward promoting Miami because of the Festival, and additonal
$100,000....
Mr. Plumper: Excuse me, question, how much did you pay for the article in
Time magazine.
Mr. Herman: Not one penny.
Mr. Plummer: Did you take out a full -page ad?
Mr. Herman: We took a full page ... wait a minute...
Mr. Plummer: And how r
h did you pay for that?
Mr. Herman: Maybe $1,800... I would have to check that.
Mr. Plummer: $18,000.
Mr. Herman: No, I'm talking about the Latin American edition and I will
check that and get the figure to you, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: And I just find it totally unacceptable after what Time magazine
did to this community to turn around and subsidize then to the tune of $18,000
to keep them liquid to write another dam article.
.:r. Herman: If we can get a positive article it's well worth that to the
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Mr. Plummer: No, you are not getting a positive article.
Mr. Herman: Oh, yes we are.
Mr. Plummer: You a;.•e paying for an ad.
Mr. Herman: No, no. We are getting an entire special section where we will
control the editorial portion of that and it will be positive for Miami and
this festival is going to bring more positive to Miami than any single event
in 1982. American Express within the next two weeks is going to put out
400,000 brochures throughout Europe, North, Central and South America —they
are going to put out a flyer throughout Latin Amrica in English and Spanish
in hundreds of thousand of copies, this is going to be the best investment
this City ever made, Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Dawkins.: May I ask you a question?
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me, let me just finish up, I would like to believe
that for $18,000 that you could buy Time magazine and control the editorial
portion of that. I'm sure that for $18,000 you are not going to get the front
page of Time with a thing that says "Paradise Recovered".
Mr. Herman: I challenge the fact that we are paying $18,000, I do not believe
that and I will confirm that to you, Commissioner Plummer, I do not believe
that's a fact.
Mr. Plummer: I read an article in a newspaper and I do not always take that
as gospel but you are paying for an ad.
Mr. Herman: I will check that and will cane back to the Commission with the
information.
Mr. Plummer: And I, I just find it hard to believe that we are ... you know,
that's biting the hand that feeds you. That's not the overall point of why
you are here.
Mr. Herman: Yes, I mean, you are making fund of what the Festival is trying
to do and I don't think that's right. We are trying to do something for this
ccrm,unity and we are trying to improve the image of this oatmunity and....
Mr. Plummer: No, I take exception to that, I take exception to this point...
Mr. Herman: Well, it sure sounds like it.
Mr. Plummer: And this point is who you are doing it with. Time magazine is
only one publication in this country.
Mr. uerman: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: And I personally feel that had you done with other publication
I've got no problem with it.
Mr. Herman: But we have, we are putting a $500,000 advertising campaign in
major publications throughout the country; newspapers, magazines, and so
forth. Time magazine is a small part of it, the reason I mentioned it is
because they are doing a whole positive section which I feel will help us
overcame the negative publicity that we got in the last one.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my bottom question is still the same. We need relief to
to help our own, charity starts at home, if there is any way that the New
World Festival Ccamittee could release the City of Miami of some of our
$175,000 obligation, I think that you would be doing this Commission a ser-
vice and a favor. I'll leave it at that.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to ask a question You continue to say that this
Festival promotes the City of Miami and the City of Miami only...
Mr. Herrman: I didn't say only, Mr. Dawkins. I said primarily...
Mr. Dawkins: No, you did not but, all right.
Mr. Herman: ...because in the ads City of Miami is mentioned.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, okay, then 'primarily', then 'primarily' we should support
it, not in total almost.
Mr. Herman: Well, you are not in total....
Mr. Dawkins: Now, go along the other lines, I also think that people who
come to this Festival spend money in Bal Harbour, they go and spend money in
Key Biscayne, they spend money in Coconut Grove and they spend money in all
the other areas. So, therefore, I, too, would hope, knowing -again, and I hate
to keep saying this- that we are denying services, health care services, police
service, fire service, to all the citizens, and we are constantly being asked
to, and I quote "promote" the City of Miami when the citizenry which lives here
is getting short-changed. So, if you could find any relief for us, I, too, feel
that you would be doing a civic service to the City of Miami.
Mr. Herman:- Ca nissioner Dawkins, may I respond briefly? The total budget Of
the Festival is $4,800,000. We have gone to Dade County, City of Miami Beach,
City of Miami and State of Florida and we've gotten nearly half that figure
with most of the others -not the City of Miami Beach but with the State and
the County ccm ng through with much larger amounts than the City of Miami
which I feel does receive the primary focus, because everything that goes out
says: "Miami". The people of Dade County are upset because we don't say "Came
to Dade County or come to South Florida", we say -"Cane to Miami.", and that's
where the main publicity goes. I believe that when this Festival is over the
econcnic research report will prove to be true and that will be that we will
have a $22,000,000 impact on this community, and we will focus the attention of the
world in Miami not as a place of crime, and drugs and refugee problems, and
so on, but as a mature cultural cammunity and that has far more value to this
community than any one of the smaller things and this is the whole reason that
the Festival was created because we are trying to bring tourists here.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me close by borrowing one phrase from the Mayor, -the majority
of the tax dollars cane from the City of Miami.
Mr. Herman: Not the majority, 30% to 40% you said, right?
Mayor Ferre: I thought it was 60%, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not the total Maurice, it's about 40€.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, 40t, so some of these other people who are getting
the 60% ought to pick up as much for their 60% as we are picking up for our
40%.
Mr. Herman: I agree, and we are trying to raise funds everywhere we possibly
can. We've got a long way to go to make a $4.8 budget.
Mr. Plummer: Bob, please don't leave here with any negative thinking that
I or ... I don't think anyone on this Canmission is negatively thinking about
what this New World Festival is going to do for this ocmnuzity, and I don't
think that questions as have been raised here today would not have been raised
unless we are finding ourselves with problems of funding programs
and this Commission is trvine every way humanly possible to meet the
needs of cur taxpayers first and the eamiunity's second. I would tell you
that from all of my association with the TDC and knowing what I know about
the New World Festival, I think you will do more than $22,000,000 worth of
bTpact in good for this eatmunity, it's the idea that the City of Miami seems
to always be first in line when it is a request for money, and something has
got to give, and if nothing more, this Commission is putting out the word that
Joe Carollo is saying -the day is coming, it's got to Come, where something
has cot to give and those days are rapidly with us.
Mr. Herman: You asked two other questions, Mayor Ferre.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, would you answer than?
Mr. Herman: Surely. On the Cristo project. When we originally negotiated
with Crystal, we had a verbal agreement that if he would do his surrounded
island project in the month of June, that we would purchase $200,000 of his
art work which would then become the joint property or, became the property
in same proportion, of the Festival, the County and the City of Miami. When
he had to delay because of not being able to get the material, because of not
getting his permits on time, because of having to do the environmental study
which took longer than anticipated, he withdrew any request that we purchase
any of his art work and now there is no obligation for us to pay him a penny ,
he has not been paid a penny and he will do an exhibition during the Festival
totally at his own cost.
Mayor Ferre: All right, the last question was, whether or not if there is any
art work that is going to be turned over to the Library System, I think that
the City of Miami should in some fashion particpate in the receipt or as a
repository of such art.
Mr. Herman: There are no art works. What there is..we went, before I ever
came to the;City of Miami and asked for funding, we had the funding of the Dade
County Council of Art and Sciences. So, therefore, as we commission new operas,
new symphonies, new chamber music and so forth, we ask the composers to give us
a hand-written first page dedicated to the people of Dade County which would be
deposited with the Dade County Public Library System for permanent display. That
is the only thing that we do have.
Mayor Ferre: I have no further questions, I just have a comment. If what you
and your Committee are proposing to do ends up in half ... in accomplishing half
of who:. you say you are going to accomplish, I think all the money that the
City, and the County, and this community has put into the project will have been
about the best money expended that we could expend. And I think that you are
to be cammeanded and congratulated and encouraged and I only wish that...is that
a Metropolitan Dade County tie that you have on?
Mr. Herman: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: I only wish that we had a City of Miami tie so that we could give
you one so that you would wear the City of Miami tie once in a while too. But
thank you very much.
Mr. Herman: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just want to say that this Festival is
so big ...it's not something that the Committee or I or anybody involved can
accomplish on his own, this is going to take a cam =ity-wide effort and we've
got to spread the word and make the world aware of what's going on in Miami
because it is tremendously important. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
3(a). DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED STADIUM AS IT RELATES TO SPORTS AUTHORITY;
3(b). BRIEF DISCUSSION - SUPER BOWL '85. .
3(c). DISCUSSION OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL.
Mr. Carollo: Mr.Mayor, at this point in time, I'd like to bring something
up which I think is of prime importance to this Commission and this City,
and I think it will only take up a couple of minutes if we could take it up
now.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, at the very first Commission Meeting that this
new Commission had, we made several points very clear that we expected to
be followed up and agreed to by Dade County. They expected this City of Miami
to participate in their Sports Authority to the extent of handing over the
Orange Bowl and the Baseball Stadium to the Sports Authority. Mr. Mayor,
those points that we made -and I would like to go over then again- were:
1) That whatever stadium would be built, that it would be built within the
boundaries of the City of Miami.. (2) That the name "liiami" would be placed
in it. (3) That this Commission and this City would be able to have equal
representation in the Sports Authority. (4) That whatever appointments we
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would have there that this Carmission would have the sole authority in placing
or replacing whanever it would want and not have to depend on Dade County to
approve or disapprove. (5) And last, but not least, Mr. Mayor, -that after this
would be built, whatever oammercial activities other than sports that would go
in conjunction with the Stadium would pay taxes to the City of Miami., like it
normally would otherwise. Mr. Mayor, it's been some time now since this Cutr-
mission made it very clear what we expected in return for our Orange Bowl
and our Baseball Stadium which are probably worth anywhere between $35,000,000
and $40,000,000. Mr. Mayor, I'm very concerned that Dade County apparently
feels that we are bluffing. We are not bluffing, Mr. Mayor, I think that every
menber of this Cannission feels as I do that our main responsibility lies with
the citizens of Miami. We are a City that has an annual budget of under
$150,000,000, while Dade County has a budget of over $1,000,000,000. The Orange
Bowl and the Baseball Stadium are two of our most valuable assets. Mr. Mayor,
I think we have to send a message to Dade County, the days that Manhattan was
bought fxtM*the Indians for $24 in beads are long gone, that either they are
going to deal with us as equals or they better find a new game. Mr. Mayor,
before I proceed with the motion that I would like to make, I would like to
open it up for other members of this Commission to express any further views
they might have.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to put on the record, that and I hope I
speak for the Commission when I say this, if I don't then someone up here
I hope would correct me, this Canmission has no problems with Mr. Masvidal
and the fact that the media constantly says this is in error. Some state-
ments were made after the election as to the removal of individuals in certain
key spots but after the election the Mayor spoke to me and he said that he
had no problems with Mr. Masvidal but he too shared the concerns that we had
in that instead of being an equal to Dade County we are treated as a step child.
It is not Mr. Masvidal we are interested in, it's our having the ability to
choose wham this Ccmmission has confidence in and feels that that individual
is working for the betterment of the City of Miami and if I'm not speaking for
the Commission or anyone has anything different I'd like to hear it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me try and clear up a few points. The problem, Miller,
is the fact that the Legislature in their infinite wisdom made the responsibi-
lity of the 2% resort tax rest in the hands of Metropolitan Dade County. And
Metropolitan Dade County has, in fact, taken an attitude that it is their money
and they will allocate, disburse those monies as they see fit and that they will
in fact retain control of who sits on what Boards. They did not spell out as
they did with the Unbrella of the TDC that there would be certain members or
certain positions..I can only tell you -and this is my opinion- I fought long
and hard as well as did Mr. Masvidal, the first point getting the word "Miami"
into the organization; -no way, no way. The other points and I'm trying to
recall Joe, let me dispell one that was very clear. Joe, there will be no
revenues from this domed stadium.
Mayor Ferre: You are talking about taxes.
Mr. Plummer: I understand what I'm talking about.
one of the things that has been overlooked directl
Mayor Ferre: That includes interest.
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Mr. Plummer: No, it does not, that's the point. That includes interest on
construction money only. Nobody wants to talk about that the reality of this
total project is $750,000,000..
Mayor Ferre: Over a 20-year period.
Mr. Plummer: A 29-year mortgage, Mr. Mayor, there will be $510,000,000 of
interest paid on that money, that's debt service. It is projected at this
time unless same other places are made for revenues; that if the facility
as proposed is built, it will have a $12,000,000 subsidy a year to break even.
Now, Do you want to }mow why Mr. Robbie maybe is not too happy with the Buena
Vista site and is now suddenly falling back in live with the Orange Bowl?
I'll tell you why, he finally saw the figures that the projected revenues
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Mr. Plummer (cont'd): for the new stadium, right off the bat, doubles his
rent. He no longer will pay $45,000 a game as advocated, he will pay $100,000
a game.
Mayor Ferre: That's if he is lucky.
Mr. Plummer: He will not have the peanut cracker jack and beer concession.
That will go back into revenues to the Sports Authority. That's called re -
falling in love.
Mayor Ferre: Second time around.
Mr. Plummer: I'm trying to remanbe.r,
you refresh my memory and I will try
the other points.
Mr. Carollo:* Equal representation.
Joe, some of the other points. Would
to give you my opinion with sane of
Mr. Plummer: All right, let me make a point to you there. The Sports Authori-
ty for months tried to get Broward County to, in fact, cane with us, use sane
of your resort money Broward County ... do you wanted it near you?, fine. It is
ironic that they are offering to Broward County equal representation if they
cane in, and Broward County has said up to this point they are not going to use
their bed -tax money. Now, when they indicate equal representation, as I under-
stand it, there are 7 manbers in the Authority Broward County will name seven
of theirs. Now, that's strictly in the talking session at this point.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me for a second, J.L., they are dealing with people that
from what I've been reading might not be around too long in that Commission.
Mayor Ferre: One of them has already said he wouldn't run today.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, if they are not there there will be others, I'm sure. But
I'm just trying to answer the points that you are making because I think that
most of then have been addressed. Other than that, I just try to clarify some
points for you.
Mr. Carollo: No, what I meant to say was that whatever caTmitments or arrange-
ments they might have with the present Ccamission before the year is over might
be a different story with a new Commission over there.
Mayor Ferre: Any other statements frcm any other maTbers of the Cannission?
Mr. Perez: Mayor, during the past few weeks, we have read the different media
reports and the controversial report on this issue. I don't this is a personal
matter but I think that we have to preserve the future or the identity of our
City of Miami in this issue. I believe that it is very important to preserve
the name of the City in any program for the future Sports Authority. I share
what we have discussed here and I believe that we have to discuss on an equal
basis with the Dade County ... we have to preserve the name of Miami in the future
and we have to be strong on this issue with an equal representation opportunity
and a strong minority participation also.
Mayor Ferre: Miller do you want to add anything else?
Dir. Dawkins: No, thanks.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me just make these oaminents. In the first place, let
me explain my position. Let me see if I can get into the logic of all of this
These people, the Sports Authority, have donw in my opinion, have done a mag-
nifio nt job in a very short period of time. They've put a lot of effort in,
a lot of work, a lot of travel...Now, they have concluded tha: they would like
to put this arena in the F.E.C. property. Now, that, of course, means...and
we will be talking about the F.E.C. in a munent, that it really should require
the good will of the F.E.C. Railroad. If it does not have the good will of
the F.E.C. Railroad, Mr. Frates can predict to you from personal experience
that it will take then 5 to 10 years to take the property. The last time
we went throught this process...I might remind you that we started in 1971 and
we still have not finished. Now, that doesn't mean that we won't be able to
do it a little bit quicker. I might point out that the City of Miami fast
tracked the acquiring of the F.E.C. property on the bay by doing a quick -take
who nobody in his right mind would do, and of eours, since we are continually
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accused of not being in our right minds we were the only ones that had the
courage to do something like that and that's the only reason we are going
to end up with this property, otherwise, we wouldn't have ended up with this
property. No matter how good our attorneys, they were magnificent, or how
good our cause, or how much the Chamber of Ca merce wanted it or didn't want
it. Now, the F.E.C. has, since they have experience in these things, has
very carefully gone around docuTenting all the things they are going to do with
their wonderful property and, which I'm sure, puts thL n in very good posture
for their lawsuit since they have already been talking to lenders and they
spent money in drawings and they talked to developers and they are kind of..
in place. Now, Plummer has pointed out that the expenditure is $210,000,000.
Now, I want to remind you that it changes every month. Las month it was
$96,000,000, then they said -no, it wasn't ninety six, it was ninety six
but now it is up to $117,000,000. however, it did not take into account the soft -
costs, it did not take into account land costs, it did not take into account
the interest expense during the construction if we were to borrow the full
amount, and when you put all those things together minus the land cost you
are up to over $200,000,000. Now, the debt service, evidently, as Plummer
pointed out, is something like $12,000,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, no, no, no. Excuse me,.. well, wait a minute...
Mayor Ferre: $12,000,000 is what I saw in the paper that's what Rick Horrow
said the other day.
Mr. Plummer: $12,000,000 times...well, I can tell you the figure. It's
$510,000,000 as debt service.
Mayor Ferre: All right. The repayment of the debt if this is a bonded....
a self-liquidating bonding issue is $12,000,000 a year, so they figure out
how do you come up with $12,000,000? Joe Robbie is not coming up with $12,000,000,
Ronnie Fine and the baseball team isn't going to cane up with $12,000,000.
Who canes up with the money to pay? Metropolitan Dade County? They don't want
to go to the taxpayers and the amount of money that we receive from the
tourists bed tax allocated to that is in the vicinity of ... what? a couple of
million dollars, so we are $10,000,000 short. well, naw they are going to
sell 200 sky boxes, that's a wonderful idea, we'll raise $40,000,000 to
$50,000,000 which will reduce the $210,000,000 by $50,000,000. The City
of Miami is going to contribute the Orange Bowl and the other property and
that's $30,000,000 -and that will reduce it another $30,000,000. They
are trying to find ways to reduce the debt repayment. Now, they still
can't make it, they are still $7,000,000 to $8,000,000 short. Who is
going to cone up with the $7,000,000 to $8,000,000 shortgage? Well,
now of a sudden they came up with a great idea. The idea was, well,
we'll do it like New Jersey, that's a great idea. New Jersey has one of
the best sports facilities in America because they took something called
meadowlands, which is a race track, and they take the money that they make in
gambling and they spread it around and that's how they maintain their football
and baseball stadiums; but, since we can't -we don't have that ... w-et they did
was they said, -let's bring Jai -Alai and let's bring the dogs over. We'll use
the dogs in,Jai-Alai)and we'll use the gambling to fund the difference. The
problem +s that to do that you've got to go to the Legislature. Now, I ask
you, honestly, with Dempsey Barron et al., sitting in Tallahassee and
reigning -which is what they do- do you think that it's probable —well, I'll
go further, do you think it is possible, because it goes beyond probability,
is it possible in the wildest dream to think that Dempsey Barron and the other
members of the Legislature would give up $12,000,000 of income to the State
fmn paramutual betting by releasing -which is what their request is going to
be- by releasing the $12,000,000 a year made on the dogs and in Jai -Alai so
that this eatrwdty will have the ability to use it? Now, what complicates it
even further than that is that, all of the sudden, here comes Mr. Thornton, who
is the President of the F.E.C. Railroad and he says -on moral grounds, and
on practical grounds, I will have nothing to do with any gambling on any of
our properties. Now, given that as a reality that means that the Sports
Authority now has to go acquire another piece of property other than the
F.E.C. to put up a dog track and a Jai -Alai and all this ... Now, when you start
counting up the "if's" that are involved in that whole processpand when you
realize that they are talking about 20 acres out of the 56 ewe already have
37 acres at the Orange Bowl- we, the City of Miami, today, have 37 acres, the
F.E.C. is going to give the Sports Authority 20 acres, that's 17 acres less
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than they have now with our Stadium. In addition to that, they want
$200,000,000 to be expended, 10,000 parking spaces to be built, this and
that and on, and on, and on, and you begin to realize that this is mighty
high dreaming. Now, in addition, when you start. adding that Joe Robbie does
not want to go to the F.E.C. property and told me on the phone yesterday that the
Miami Dolphins would not sign a contract to play in that stadium, then you MW
really begin to see the tremendous ramifications and complexities of what
we are up against. Now, comes Broward County. Broward County wants in.
Now, gentlemen of the Commission I just want to you to understand what we are
dealing with, and I said this to the Authority the other day, if Broward
County canes up and matches the City of Miami..we are saying, we are willing
to give you $30,000,000 to $35,000,000 worth of property. Now, if Broward
County were to cane up and say and say -Dade, here is $30,000,000 to
$35,000,000, one way or the other, in property, in in -kind, promise to pay, and
all that, I would understand that Dade County would be tempted, as a matter
of fact, I.Would recammend strongly that they take the money and that they
form a regional Sports Authority and that they proceed with building whatever
needs to be built. Now, the probability, -again, the possibility of that.
happening..do you really believe ... this morning on the radio driving here
one of the main Ccm issioners in Broward County said that he would not run
for office, for re-election, that he could see the handwriting on the wall
well, let me tell you what the handwriting on the wall is, the handwriting
on the wall is that the people of Broward County do not want to pay any more
taxes; and I want to tell you that I fired it highly improbably, if not unlikely,
that the Broward County Commission caning up for re-election, this year have
any chance fo coming up with anything near like the value of the Orange Bowl
or the Baseball Stadium. If they do, God bless them and I think Dade County
ought to take them up on it. So, when you cane back to the reality of it
I think that the Orange Bowl may not be as bad as a lot of people have been
thinking and I think that we should have a little bit of patience because if
we wait this thing out, in my opinion, there are not going to be that many
games in town and I think we better be well advised as to how we proceed.
Now, I think what Commissioner Carollo is saying is very appropriate and
I commend him for it and I subscribe to it one hundred percent. I think it
would be wise for us to perhaps put sane kind of a reasonable, reasonable, time —
limit on it. I don't think that this is something that we ought to be jerk
the rug off from under them today but I think we certainly should say, since
they are talking in terms of caning to conclusions within 60 days or what
have you, that sanewhere uithing the next 60 days, somehow, we also need to _
have an ans%%er, because if indeed they can get paramutual betting funds
of $12,000,000 a year, as I told the Authority the other day, what do you need
the Orange Bowl for? If you can get $12,000,000 a year of funds you can do
evexytdng you want on your own, you don't need anybody and I'm sure you are
not going to have the City of Miami as part of your Authority. God bless you,
go to it, get your funds, build your stadium. If, on the other hand, they
are not able to do that, I think that the Orange Bowl property is a lot more
valuable and a lot more important that a lot of people are giving it credit
for. And therefore, I think that we need to rethink this. Now, I saw in the news-
peper Commissioner Carollo's statement that perhaps we should create our own
Sports Authority. Well, let me just say that, in my opinion, we should be more
generous to the County that the County has been to us and that perhaps what
we'll do is we will create a Miami Sports Authority and let the County have
more thatn the three seats that we have and perhaps we can talk about what to
do with the Orange Bowl property and I think that if they contribute a like
amount -by that I mean something that is in the vicinity of $30,000,000 or
whatever the appraised value is of the Orange Bowl, I have absolutely no doubt
that we can build a reasonable football stadium at low cost, non dome, and
non air conditioned but out in the open, sunshine football stadium that -
perhaps later on could be expanded with additional expenditure into baseball
and that we would be able to close off about 3 streets and that with the closing
off of 3 streets and the consolidation of about 40 or 50 small parcels of
property that we would have to acquire, that we would have well over 45 or
close to.50 acres of land which we could solve the parking problem, Mr. Robbie
could have this tailgating parties and we would get on with solving the —
problems that have been nagging this ecaimunity for this past decade. But
I don't think the timme for crossing that bridge is necessarily here yet and
I would think, Joe, that perhaps we should put a time limit to it. somehow.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, members of this Commission, I don't want anyone
accusing this Commission of being unreasonable, number one; and number two,
of being the cause for the Dade County Sports Authority to fall on their face.
I think that, in the long run, if we have learned anything from the Rapid
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Transit promises, Dade County would do a good job on their own, they don't
need our help on it. I want to be gracious, Mr. Mayor, I don't want to go
.into other areas. I think that this City can very well,and very effectively,
have its own Sports Authority and one that would really succeed. It's not
going to take that much additional new land to be acquired around the Orange
Bowl for this City to be able to go in there and construct a new stadium.
We could probably do that with sattewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000,000.
I think that those are figures that this City can handle. Then once the new
stadium is built then we can go in tear down the and then have ad-
ditional space for parking, tailgate parties, what have you. I think it's
also reasonable to say that if at sane time in the future this City has an
opportunity to acquire a baseball franchise,that then Aor a minimum amount
of money,we could add baseball facilities to our new stadium. As far as the
dome ... well,. if we lived up in'Chicago, New York, I would say, yes, I would
like to seea. dome, but we are living here,in South Florida, the only sub-
tropical climate in the whole country, I don't really think we need a dame
here. In fact, the owner of our football team has stated right out, he
doesn't want a dame. So, I think that if this City decides to look at the
possibility of starting its own Sports Authority and the possibilities of
constructing a new stadium in the present Orange Bowl site, that we could
construct a new stadium without a dame for somewhere in the figure of
$60,000,000, maybe a little more, but a figure that this City can handle.
Mr. Mayor, the motion that I would like to make at this point is the follow-
ing, and I'm going to include in this motion, Mr. Mayor, a deadline that I
think will be reasonable, and that's going to be, Mr. Mayor, the deadline
of P9arch llth. It's going to give the County approximately two months
to decide where they want to go. Mr. Mayor, the motion that I am going to
make is the following: that our City Manager personally,present to the Dade
County Commission and the Dade County Manager the City of Miami's five demands
in order for us to participate in the Sports Authority and in order for us to
be willing to turn the Orange Bowl and the Baseball Stadium over to the Sports
Authority. These five conditions are the following:
1. That the new Stadium be constructed inside the City of Miami;
2. That the name "Miami" be included in the new Stadium's name;
3. That the City of Miami be given equal representation in the Sports
Authority;
4. That the City of Miami have complete control and authority in whaat-
ever it places or replaces on that Board, in our appointments; and
5. That whatever additional commercial activity is placed in the new Stadium
that has nothing to do with the Stadium activities themselves, for
for instance, the Buena Vista site, whether the Sports Authority
vanes to an agreement with the raiiroad people or not, they are
going to go ahead and build hotels, build office spaces there, it's
only fair that the City of Miami be reimbursed in the form of taxes
on their property, I don't think it's fair whatsoever for then to
get an exemption on commercial property that they are going to have
there. So the fifth demand that we are going to place is that
taxes be paid on omu ercial activity there.
I think that if we give the Dade County Commission a deadline of March llth to
either give us a positive reply or, if not, a negative, that that will be a suf-
ficient enough time for us to be able to proceed with additional plans. Included
in my motion, Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, I would like to add that
if Dade County either does not agree with these five points or does not give us
a reply that then, automatically, we withdraw from the Sports Authority begin-
ning March 12th, the day after.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to that motion?
Mr. Perez: I second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, under discussion. J.L., Dick Horrow had very well
delineated -and there are more than five points- there is a letter in there
and I just want to make sure that we haven't missed anything, I want to make
sure that we've covered it all. Do you have that mete that he wrote?
Mr. Plummer: I've got it, sir, I'm trying to find it here.
Mayor Ferre: It's towards the end of the Report. Here it is, here it is,
it says as follows. He has..seven, eight —eight items. 1) The facilities
will be located in Miami -you've covered that; 2) The word "Mim-d" must appear
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you've got that. 3) Miami should be granted equal representation, you've
got that. 4) Dade County Ccarmission should have no approval over the City
of Miami Sports Authority appointments, you've got that. 5) If a new faci-
lity does not materialize the orange Bcwl...oh, here is cne that's missing. -it
a new facility does not materialize, the Orange Bowl and/or the Miami
Stadium properties or its equivalent should revert to the City of Miami, in
other words....
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think that would be clear enough in the motion that we
are making, Mr. Mayor, but just to clarify it even more, we can include that
in the motion.
Mayor Ferre: okay. In other words, ti_at if turn over the property and then
a year later something happens in the financing and they don't build the pro-
perty, that they don't end up Frith tYe property, that it revert back to us.
7) If ad valorem tax revenues are recuired to help finance the facility, the
City of Miami would reserve the right. to reconsider this decision. In other
words, if we are going to use tax money, then we may want to revisit this
whole question. Is that acceptable to you?
Kr. uarollo: That's reasatable, 1•;r. rJayor, carcair,ily.
Mayor Ferre: Arid 8) The City of Miami should receive tax revenue from the
commercial activity, and you have covered that.
Mr. Carollo: I covered that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, those ... the only two additions would then be the questior
of ad valorem taxes and secondly, the question of the proper ty revertii,y 1aaa to
the City, or an equal amount of money, if they end up with title to the pro-
perty and don't proceed with building the project.
�:r Carollo: I think new we have covered just about every area, Mr. Mayor,
of importance to the City. If they would agree to this, Mr. Mayor, then we
could proceed in truly dealing with then.
Mayor Ferre: Any further discussion on the motion?
Mr. Plum;er. Well, Mr. Mayor, you know I will have to vote against the motion,
let me tell you why. There is a deadline already set. That deadline was set
for April of next year and that deadline very clearly states that if the City of
Miami by that time does not turn over the Orange Bowl and the Baseball Stadium
that it will lose its representation which,in effect fis the same as the motion,
we are going to withdraw. I am a firm believer that if you close the doors of
communication you will never get anything acoomplished. I think that the Sports
Authority,as well as the Dade County Cawdssion,is well aware, it has been re-
iterated many, many times, of the feelings of this commission, and I don't dis-
agree with all of those feelings, as a matter of fact I adhere to most of them,
but I am concerned by this motion with the deadline of March llth, that if they
don't acquiesce to all of these positions,we are going to withdraw and create
in effect a competitive Sports Authority. I think, Mr. Mayor, that we should
keep every door open, keep every line of oanminication open. Many of the
points -and I am not going to try to sit here and try to reiterate all of then.
As you said, there are so many "if's", you know, that I think that we've got
to be a part of those "if's" ifin fact this thing is going to work, and I'm
not sure that it is. Maybe it is a wislist. Mr. Mayor, I don't want in any
way to put an ultimatum down that would close off cammunications with the
Metro Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Further comments? If not, call the roll on the motion.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION No. 82-2
A MOTION DIRD 1% THE CITY MANAGER TO L►4MMIATELY PRESENT
THE CITY COMMISSION'S POSITION AS HE DZELOW DEL NF'.= To
THE DADE COUNTY MIAGER FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE INIE MPOLITAN
DADE COMM C014-ZISSION IN CCNNEC'TICN WITH THE CITY' S DF.!WNDS
RELATING TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW STADIUM BASED UPON THE
PREMISE THAT THE CITY OF MIR41 WOULD TURN OVER THE PROPERTIES
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! OF THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM AMID THE MIAM BASEBALL STADIUM
TO ME7TRIOPOLITAN DADE COUNTY. CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
1. THAT THE NEW STADIUM BE CONSTRUCM WITRM THE CITY
OF MIAMI LIMITS;
2. THAT Z E NAME "MTAMI" BE INCLUDED IN THE NAME OF THE
NEW STADIUM;
3. THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI HAVE EQUAL REPRESENTATION IN -
THE SPORTS AUTHORITY BOARD;
4. THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI HAVE CCMPLETE CONTROL OVER ITS
APPOINTMENT'S AND/OR REPLAC22,ET S TO THE SPORTS AUTHORITY
BOARD; _-
5. THAT WHATEVER ADDITIONAL COb 4ERCIAL ACTIVITIES ARE TO
BE CONDUCTED THEREIN IN CO'ECTION WITH THE NEW STADIUM =-
THAT THE CITY CF 24IP"7I BE RERML]RSED IN THE FORT OT - ` ' : AND
6•. THAT IF AD VALOREM TAX MON=S WMM EVER REWIRW IV tires
FINANCE THE FACILITY, THAT THE CITY WOkW RESERVE THE
RIGHT TO RECONSIDER THIS DECISION;
FUR STIPULATING THAT A REPLY TO THE AFORESAID CONDITIONS MUST BE RECEIVED
BY THE CITY COMMISSICN NO LATER THAN MARUT 11, 1982; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT
IF NO REPLY IS RECEIVED FROM METROPOLITAN DADE CO[JMt THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI
WILL WITHDRAW FROM THE EXISTING SPORTS AUTHORITY BOARD; AND, FINALLY, STIPU-
LATING THAT, IN THE EVENT AGREEMENT IS READ M AND THE ORANGE BOWL AND THE
MIAMI BASEBALL STADIUM PROPERTIES ARE INDEED TRANSFERRED TO THE SPORTS AUTHORI-
TY, AND, IF CCNSTKVrION OF SUCH PM= HAS NOT BEGUN WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM
THE DATE OF THE TRANSFER, THE AFORESAID PROPERTIES SHAD REVERT BACK TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI.
Upon being seconded by Ccnmissioner Perez, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Cam issioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: C.cYrmissioner J. L. Plunyer, Jr.
ABSENT: None.
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ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferret Let me... I think I need to explain my vote before I vote. This
is a very, very serious matter, but Mr. Manager, I would like to point out through
you and to the members of the Commission and to the public here, that if I'm
not mistaken, the contract with the Dolphins runs out in 1986? Now, that
means that as of right now since... if I'm not mistaken, we are in 1982, we
have got four years left. Now, if we don't have four years, because if we
are going to have a stadium ready by 1984 or shortly thereafter we need to
move fairly quickly. Now, I think it is time for Mr. Robbie to stop fooling
around and come down to the reality of the world. He is not going to get
all of the things that he wants and if we had followed Mel Reese's recommendation
ten years ago, we could have had a super facility built for sixteen million
dollars right there at the Orange Bowl with fifty thousand chair back seats,
elevators, escalators, four thousand parking, streets closed off, the whole
thing that we.are going to come back talking about. Now, I think this
community, may be it's because we are a young community and an unexperienced
community, have a tendency... we seem to have a propensity of wanting to go
into death wishes all the time and secondly, when we don't go into death wishes
and everything is negative, destructive criticism, bad, bad, bad and we are
always fighting ourselves and fighting each other, we end up over dreaming
in things that just are way beyond the reality of what we can achieve. I'm
Joel, that John McMullin will be very happy that you have agreed with him.
And I think that, that must mean something when Carollo and Ferre end up
agreeing with John McMullin that perhaps we better start thinking about
building our coliseum and just a non -dome football stadium and get on with
it.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Maurice, as long as we don't become partners with him like
McMullin did with Steve Ross and Dick Knight, I think we will be alright.
Mayor Ferret I will therefore, for those reasons, because I think time is of
the essence, vote "yes" with the motion.
3(b) . BRIEF DISCUSSION - SUPER BOWL -85.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me bring to your attention and the other Commissioners
something that I voiced very loudly the other day. If Super Bowl is to be brought
to Miami, I think that they are looking towards 1985, if I'm not mistaken,
which is in the next proposal that will be made. The Sports Authority on
their own has formed a Committee in which they will make the presentation for
Super Bowl 1985. I think there are some twenty to twenty-five members of that
Committee, Super Bowl Committee and if I'm not mistaken in 1985 regardless of
what happens, that would be played in the Orange Bowl, because the new facility
would not be ready. There is only one delegate from the City of Miami on that
Committee who is now retired, Mr. Bob Jennings.
Mayor Ferret That's unreal.
Mr. Plummer: I have expressed in no uncertain terms for their own safety,
since the NFL will only deal with the owners of the stadium, that they should
give some consideration to the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferret That's hysterical.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Masvidal asked through me to you realizing that situation,
that you immediately appoint three or more members from the City to that
Committee.
Mayor Ferret That's not acceptable, Mr. Plummer and...
Mr. Plummer: Alright, sir, well, whatever is acceptable I'm saying to you, I
want to bring that problem to your attention, because as we all know landing
Super Bowl is worth approximately fifty million dollars to this community and
I don't want that thing goofed up.
Mayor Ferret Look in the past... let go over the history of this thing. In the
past, since you have been more of a participant than anybody else in past
attempts to get the Super Bowl, before I was Mayor, Steve Clark and Dave Kennedy
would always lead the delegation and that the Mayor of Miami would appoint a
Committee of two or three people, it was usually Lew Price and subsequent to
that I always appointed you, Lew Price and I forget who else, Jessie Weiss
and there is about three or four of you that have gone to Hawaii, to California,
to Detroit or what have you.
Mr. Plummer: And very successfully, we brought it home three times.
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Mayor Ferre: Three times, that's right. Now, in the last couple of years
I have been appointing more and more of the County people. Steve Clark has
gone and so on...
Mr. Plummer: Steve has always gone, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Now, I have no objections to continuing that pattern and increasing
the County's participation, but as long as this thing is up in the air and as
long as we don't have a resolution on where the stadium is going to be and
how it's going to be built and when it's going to be built. It is my opinion
that this is a responsibility of the City of Miami and I am not willing to in
anyway abrogate that responsibility until, indeed, these people have come to
a conclusion about building a new stadium. Now, we don't have to have a new
stadium built, but until they stop dilly dallying and going around in a circle
and we know that a stadium is going to be built, then I don't thing the City
of Miami should in anyway abdicate its role or its responsibility since we
are the owners of that Orange Bowl and we do have not only a proprietary interest,
but a fiduciary responsibility to the people who use that stadium. And I
therefore, think, since the National Football League has as one of its tenants
that it deals with the owner of the property and since we are the owner of the
property, then I think that we must maintain our posture now that the Sports
Authority is a participant is, of course, obvious and I certainly would have
no intentions of slighting them. As a matter of fact, I would like to use
them as the main vehicle for our approach to the National Football League, but
certainly, I think that the City of Miami must retain its position.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, just to clarify it. The NFL will only deal
with that organization, municipality that can give them their five year guarantee
of rates and the contract which is still in existence with the City of Miami.
The Sports Authority cannot give them that guarantee.
Mayor Ferre: That's my point precisely.
Mr. Plummer: So, all I'm doing is bring this to your attention. I do feel,
Mr. Mayor, that this is coming down, it usually comes down in June. This
takes anywhere... a good Committee is going to have spend at least six months
putting that package together. I have worked on that Committee many, many times.
And I'm bringing it to your attention, Mr. Mayor, you do what you want as far as
the City is concerned, but at this point from everything that I have read and
seen the City is being completely circumvented in that presentation.
Mayor Ferre: Not so. That will not be the case. And I think I will by next
month come up with a list of people that should serve on that Committee and
we will so inform the National Football League and we will proceed accordingly.
I obviously, will take into account the Sports Authority. Ok, is there anything
else?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, may I bring up one other point, Mr. Mayor? And this is
probably going to be a very sore subject, but I got to bring it up.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., if it's controversial...
3(c). DISCUSSION OF BEER IN THE ORANGE BOWL.
Mr. Plummer: It's not going to be controversial, it's going to be a request.
Mr. Mayor, I went to the Orange Bowl game and I want to tell you as one who was
an advocate of beer in the Orange Bowl, I have had some damn serious second
thoughts. Mr. Mayor, I think that Mr. Gary must immediately report back to this
Commission or undergo an investigation where I sat in that Orange Bowl, unfortunately,
there were people who came to that Orange Bowl inebriated.
Mayor Ferre: Does that mean drunk?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, inebriated means that they are under the influence of
something and it wasn't his wife. Mr. Gary, I will tell you what I observed.
I observed clear cut, minors drinking beer in the Orange Bowl. As I said once
before, the venders in the stands cannot be policemen. These vendors when the
man says send four beers, doesn't and cannot ascertain that those beers are going
to adults. That vendor cannot and should not be placed in a position of a
determination of whether the person receiving that alcoholic beverage is already
intoxicated and the law says you can--- Good morning, Mr. Robbie ---you cannot
serve a person under the influence out more alcohol. Mr. Gary, the third point
I want to make. Unfortunately, or maybe it was directly, every vendor who was
dispensing from cans stood in front of me. It is so much different between the
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two venders. one which comes already in the
whole twenty-four or whatever he has got in
If he has to stand there and pour from a can
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cup poured. He can dispense the
that in two minutes and he is gone.
to a cup it takes a long period of
Mayor Ferre: All these vendors were in front of you?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't think there were any others, but I...
Mayor Ferre: Were they City of Miami voters?
Mr. Plummer: I will tell you the man who was dispensing mostly in front of
me was not a voter, because he was not eighteen years of age and he was in
an under shirt, representative. Mr. Gary, I think this whole matter of beer
in the Orange -Bowl has got to be revisited. I think we have got to tighten
down. There has got to be some way that this City can be assured that those
alcoholic beverages, number one, are not going to minors. And number two,
that those alcoholic beverages are not going to people who are already inebriated.
I am almost to the point of seriously considering that alcoholic beverages not
be hawked in the stands, that they must get up and go down to the dispensing
stations. That would slow it down. All I'm asking, Mr. Mayor, is that the
entire situation of beer... alcohol in the Orange Bowl be revisited and that
the Manager come back to us at the next meeting with a recommendation and a full
report.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager, without, I hope, any further discussion
we can get on.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would just hope that whatever recommendation the
Manager comes back with, that Mr. Robbie is consulted, because I don't want
to get in the middle of another war.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, I don't have any disagreement. I cannot hold Mr. Robbie
personally responsible for those individual hawkers in the stands, but I do
think it needs tightening.
4. DISCUSSION ITEM: F.E.C. PROPERTY ON MIAMI BAYFRONT
Authorize payment to Frates Law Firm
Direct City Manager to take possession of proper
and install grass, bill railroad for r.o.w. etc.
Mayor Ferre: Now, I had promised Marty Fine and Bill Frates and the people
from the Chamber, Dave Weaver and Judge Floyd and the others that are here on
this F.E.C. matter that we would hear this at 10:00, because they have some other
clients and things that they have got to get back to. So, I would... you have
received, unfortunately, this morning and I received last night because Mr.
Frates came to talk to me and said that his office had personally hand delivered
this letter to each Commissioner's Office two days ago. I could not find a copy
of mine, but there is a letter of January llth, that relates to current status
of the F.E.C. Property and the legal posture that we are in, where we are at and
a request payment to the law firm of Floyd, Pierson, Steward, Richmond, ,
Wheel and so on and to William Frates, Esq. a sum of two hundred and then a
fifty thousand dollars respectively. Now, to remind you, I was the one, who at
the last meeting--- this was on the agenda--- requested, number one, that we
be brought up to date as to where we stood and it's very, very technical and
complicated, serious and involved legal matter. And secondly, that Mr. Frates
or one of his associates be here to answer any questions and explain verbally
if needed or elaborate if needed as to the questions. Now, perhaps the way
to go about this is to recognize the City Attorney, Mr. Knox, to introduce the
subject and then perhaps Mr. Frates, would want to speak on it. I understand
that there is a delegation here from the Chamber who also wishes to address this
issue and I will recognize them after Mr. Frates has spoken.
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Mr. Knox: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, at the last meeting you
considered a request along with a recommendation from the Law Department
respecting Mr. Frates fees for his legal services in connection with the
condemnation of the F.E.C. Property. Mr. Frates has agreed and is present and
has also communicated with the Commission by a letter which I think that it
would be appropriate for him to highlight for the benefit of members of the
Commission and the public relative to our current posture in the condemnation
process and I would ask Mr. Frates to please do so at this time.
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Willian Frates: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, we have a rather
lengthy letter here that we worked on at some length trying to reduce it to
understandable... Unfortunately, it's seven pages. It's very difficult to
pick out any one particular item in tracking, one, the status of this matter
without covering the entire thing. The latter part of it is our attempt to
give you some evaluation of our services. In the last resolution prepared
by the City Attorney, he approved our fee for those services rendered. I'm
sorry that this was sent to each Commissioner individually. It was delivered
to the receptionist here two days ago and supposedly was taken to each Commissioner,
including the Mayor. Apparently there is some confusion on that. I think the
underline factor in the status of it that the F.E.C. Property, P & 0 docks
is now owned by the City of Miami or Miami. I can go both ways Commissioner
Plummer.
(BACKGROUND COMMEND OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Frates: Anyway, the only restriction on that is that under an I.C.C. ruling
and a Federal Court ruling and an appeal that's in the Federal Court, we cannot
interfere with the tract, a single tract or the operation of the docks, but
other than that, the City can do anything it wants to with that 32.3 acres.
Pave it, build a building on it, do anything that you want. I don't know how
to express and it's a little embarrassing, but in my opinion the people that
worked on this case, including my old law firm have won this lawsuit because
of... and then.... because of the quick take in our proceedings, in the way
we moved it and the fact that it was our innovative procedure that made seven
million one hundred thousand dollars interest available to this and without the
quick take and without the interest the City would not have that piece of property
which you paid 16. something for, square foot and as you saw in the paper the
other day Brickell Avenue sold for a hundred fifty a square foot and certainly
the property that we are talking about... I'm sure most of you have your own
evaluation of it, but it's certainly somewhere between seventy-five and a
hundred dollars a square foot. This is a tremendous bargain. Frankly, we think
it's one of the outstanding condemnation suits that's been handled, if I may
immodestly say that. And as an old time resident of this community and I
know how many people in this area have fought to make this a contiguous park,
the gateway to Miami. We think that years will tell that this was one or the
best things that ever happen to this City, not only for ourselves, but for our
children and our grandchildren. Now, I would be glad to answer any questions.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, any questions from members of the Commission from Mr.
Frates? If not, I will recognize the Chamber. I don't know who is going to
talk for the Chamber.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Dan Paul: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, my name is Dan Paul.
I am the Chairman of the Subcommittee of the Biscayne Boulevard, Bayfront Park,
Bicentennial Park Subcommittee of the Downtown Action Committee of the Miami -
Dade Chamber of Commerce and I'm here today to urge you to please take possession
of the property which you are entitled to take possession of and begin to put
it to a City use. There are all kinds of available uses for that particular
piece of property.
Mayor Ferre: That's what we are afraid of.
Mr. Paul: That's right. Secondly, as Mr. Frates, said the whole success of this
lawsuit was grounded in the fact that the Commission decided and took the bull
by the horns and decided to go by the quick take method. If you had file this
suit the way you originally filed it and not used the quick take method, Mr. Frates
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would not have been as successful and you would not have title to this piece of —
property today.
Mayor Ferre: There was never any thought, Dan, of doing it other than in a
quick take method.
Mr. Paul: No, you filed your original suit which you lost before you hired
Mr. Frates under the other method. You didn't use the quick take. Isn't
that correct, Bill? You filed the other suit... you filed a non -quick take
suit and you lost that case. That was when John Lloyd was your City Attorney.
Mayor Ferre: I don't remember exactly what the time of, but I remember we had
a real heated debate here and I forget... J. L., I think you voted with the
Majority. There was a three...
Mr. Plummer: .I voted against quick take.
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Mayor Ferre: There was a three -two vote. Ok, I thought you had voted with it,
but there was a three -two vote on the quick take...
Mr. Paul: But that was after you had lost the first suit.
Mr. Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Paul: Right. So, what I'm urging you to do is to follow through with that
quick take principle and in my opinion, you will bring the F.E.C. around when
you go in there instead of just posting that little silly sign that you have up
on the front that this is City of Miami property. Go in and actually take
possession. Secondly, demand and collect from the piece of property that you
still can't actually, physically put in your possession, which is the Spur
Tract and the Seaport Property rent from the F.E.C. at an rate based on what
you have paid for this particular piece of property and what its value is. The
F.E.C. is thumbing its nose at you. They are not paying you one nickel for
that piece of property.
Mayor Ferre: We as I understood got the court order on the 12th day of December,
is that correct?
Mr. Paul: mr. Frates, will have to tell you what the date of the court order.
Mr. Frates: November 12th.
Mayor Ferre: On November 12th, ok.
Mr. Frates: But Mayor, that was done because of the appeal and substantial amounts
interest, millions of dollars of interest involved. So, that's why we didn't
get that order before.
Mr. Paul: But you are now... and as Mr. Frates tells you in his letter, you
now have the legal right to take physical possession of all of the property
with the exception of the tract and the actually Seaport operation that goes
on around the rim. You certainly have the right to charge the F.E.C. rent for
the Seaport rim and the Spur tract and you ought to get that rent and it ought
to be at a very stiff and at a very high rate as high as it can possibly be
justified. There shouldn't be any sweetheart deal in anyway. The F.E.C. has
played hard ball with you all the way along on this piece of property. You
should immediately go in take down the chain link fence, let the public use the
property, put grass on it if necessary, if that's all the money there is available
at this particular time and stop all that storage of materials and that great
dust bin that exist out there in that ugly... The place looks like it has mange
right. in the heart of Miami. And that's what the Chamber urges you to do.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, anything else? Ok, now, we have three subjects before us.
Now, one is compensation to the law firm and secondly, your two recommendations.
Or,c, that we take possession by doing something with the property and thirdly,
that we immediately send a bill to the F.E.C. for the usage of the property.
Mr. Plummer: I move all three.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's take them one at a time. There is a motion on the floor,
is there a second?
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Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded. Now, under discussion. Let's take them one at a time.
Bill, can you come up to the microphone? With regards to the compensation
which I think is well justified and well earned. I have no qualms at all.
I think you have done a magnificent job and have well earned the money that
you have been and you will be paid. I think it's been slow. I don't think
that, that end is something that you or your associates are in anyway responsible
for. But I think it's one of these things that we have had to deal with and
I think this is a great accomplishment. Now, Mr. Knox, how much have we
compensated... all totalled, what are the legal services on this property
been up to date?
Mr. Knox: To date, especially with respect to the quick take and that's the
information I.have, you originally authorized a three hundred thousand dollar
legal fee for.the purpose of the quick take. Subsequent during the process
of those proceedings there were two appeals and there was the I.C.C. matter
which have also been handled by Mr. Frates's firm and we believe that...
Mayor Ferre: No, no, there is a Washington firm involved in it somewhere.
Mr. Frates: An expert in the I.C.C., yes.
Mr. Knox: But that was... that firm was under the aegis of Mr. Frates's
work and we... our recommendation is that the additional fee which was necessitated
by the need for additional legal work is justified and the request is a reasonable
one.
Mayor Ferre: That's not the question.
Mr. Knox: So, that the total, then would be for the taking of the F.E.C. Property
to date. The total amount expended for legal fees would be five hundred fifty
thousand dollars assuming that you adopt this resolution.
Mayor Ferre: I see. In other words, that original three hundred thousand
was never modified and there were no further figures added to that?
Mr. Knox: That's absolutely correct. And I might add for the record that those
funds expired some time ago and Mr. Frates, to my personal knowledge has done
substantial work without assigning a fee.
Mr. Frates: Mayor, I think it might be interesting for the other members of the
Commission to know that the original contract was the quick take. Since 1971
the City had been unsuccessfully litigating, that you had never won anything
on it. The contract for the three hundred was for that quick take procedure.
Since then there was a suit filed in the Federal Court trying to stop that.
There was the I.C.C. filed, those proceedings. There was that appeal that we
argued in Atlanta a year ago that we are still waiting for. Then in addition
to that there was another lawsuit filed in... after we won all these proceedings,
filed in the Federal Court. So, you have additional many other proceedings that
were never contemplated in the original contract.
Mayor Ferre: Bill, this five hundred fifty thousand or the additional two
fifty, does that take us through today or does that take us through the...
Mr. Frates: No, sir, we... Mr. Mayor, we have agreed that we would go through
with the appeal that's in the Third District Court of Appeal where we are
arguing about several million dollars worth of insurance and we feel we have a
very strong position. It would carry us through the appeal that's pending in
the Circuit Court and it would carry us through the normal procedures to conclude
this matter.
Mayor Ferre: And does that include the item dealing with Interstate Commerce
Commission?
Mr. Frates: Yes, unless, Mayor, there was... you had to go for a certificate
of abandonment assuming...
Mayor Ferre: No, well... No, but that's...
Mr. Frates: That's something we don't foresee at this time.
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Mayor Ferre: As I understand, this matter is still pending before the Eleventh
Circuit Court of Appeals and that the briefs and everything and the oral
arguments and everything was in February of last year. They have had it for
a year now.
Mr. Frates: For a year.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, almost.
Mr. Frates: And that's a fundamental issue. If we win that...
Mayor Ferre: Then it's all over.
Mr. Frates: ... we can go in there tomorrow and take the tracks up and tell
them to move their boats.
Mayor Ferre: If we lose that, then are we... I would assume that the City
has to appeal.
Mr. Frates: Well, Mayor, there are three things that can happen. If the...
it's now the Eleventh Circuit Federal Court rules that the I.C.C. had
no jurisdiction, then we can remove the tracks and the docks, no problem.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, that's when we win.
Mr. Frates: They can then say they do have authority... the I.C.C. has authority,
then we would have to move the City for the certificate of abandonment, which
they have assured us they will cooperate with us. Now, whether they will or
not, we don't know. They can also refer it to Judge heubler wnere the court
is now pending to take testimony on it. Now, absence some real unforeseen
developments and that would conclude our work. Now, I can't say that if we
got involved in the litigation with Heubler that lasted for a year or two
that we would foresee it. But the foreseeable things at the present time this
would cover all of those. Now, again, to the other Commissioners, this is not
a fee for one lawyer or a group of lawyers. There have been approximately six
or seven lawyers, two associates, two paralegals, almost a law firm has been
working on this matter. I think...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Frates, I'm not concerned about who did it. I'm concerned in
the product and we won. So, irregardless of how many people were concerned is
irrelevant. My primary concern is, that somewhere along the lines there has
to be a cap put on the amount of money that it's going to cost the City of Miami
to handle this. And I think I heard the Mayor ask how near or how close are we
at the end of the financial responsibility to acquire this? Will this be the
end of it? Or is this near the end? Or will we have to spend almost this much
again? Or is there a possibility or what?
Mr. Frates: Commissioner Dawkins, I cannot answer your question. I hope we
are close to the end, but I... that might be my optimistic view. No one dreamed
that we would be this long. Commissioner Dawkins, one of the things that's
outlined in this letter. When we originally deposited the 14.5 million dollars
which was the bond issue and again, pardon my immodesty, but it was an innovative
thing that our law firm did, we forced the F.E.C. because we had tried the
original right to take the property, which is a landmark. decision and then
we are going back for the evaluation. We forced them, because we had won that
and we are ready to go to put the 14.5 million in the Florida National Bank with
the interest coming to the City. Now, I thought it was very bright and innovative,
little did I realize that it made the City seven million one hundred thousand
dollars.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, one question to our counselor. Mr. Knox, what is the possibility
if this does go to another court as an appeal of attempting to get someone who
can come in at a... at not a reasonable amount, because in law you get what you
pay for, but some kind along the way where we can sort of bring this thing to a
cal instead of constantly... as he said, he has got a battery of lawyers, somebody
else got another battery, except we can sort of reach some kind of an agreement
where we are going to be at the end of a financial cost. No, no. Hold it now.
I pay him to answer my financial questions, ok?
Mr. Knox: Commissioner Dawkins, it really hard to predict. I can tell you a
couple of things about the whole area of eminent domain. Number one, it is
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so important in terms of public policy that, that along with certain kinds of
capital criminal cases is the only thing that bypasses the Court of Appeal
and goes directly to the Supreme Court on certain kinds of matters. The
second thing is that there... inspite of what appear to be large legal fees
there is a reform in the whole area because the legal fees used to be much,
much greater for handling condemnation matters. And again, I think that the
rates that have been... we have documented the expenditures of time. Mr. —
Frates rates has been entirely reasonable and less than the prevailing rate
and that's about the most definitive answer that I can give you about that.
Mr. Perez: Mr.. Mayor, I would like to ask a question to our legal -advisor.
Why didn't we use the service of our Legal Department? I was not on the
Commission at that time. Why didn't we use the service of our Legal Department
on that matter?
Mayor Ferre: Well, perhaps I could help in answering that. In the first place
we did use the service of our Legal Department and lost. This was before George
Knox was our City Attorney. We lost. Now, in the second place this is such
an important matter that it required the assistance of people specialized in
two fields. one, real estate condemnation proceedings and two, litigation.
These are people that were specialized and there were several law firms, but
there was one law firm in particular that had within its legal staff people that
excelled in both of those fields and so, that's why this particular law firm
was chosen and the results proved that we were right in the selection of this
law firm. They really did a very important bit of legal work and I think
that there was some water shed decisions that were involved in all this.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, may I speak to that also? We have to learn that law
is the same as medicine. If you have a corn on your foot, you do not go to
the dentist. Therefore, when we as the City Commission are dealing with certain
issues it's to our advantage to lean on our legal counselor to go out and obtain
the best legal minds that he can in order to try to help the City win this
case. And so, I think that's what we did, Mr. Perez.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, any further questions on this particular issue? Now, the
other two issues that we have deal with the possession question. Mr. Manager,
I notice that in the last thirty days or so we after demolishing these buildings
out in front went in with some bull dozers, graded and then I think we spread
a little bit of top soil, not very much as I saw, but enough to get some grass
going and some seeds were spread and now it' beginning to look a little green there.
I assume that is not a major expenditure, if you don't go in and tear up the
land to put sprinkler systems and the like. So, I think that what we ought to
really consider is taking down all of the fencing around the F.E.C. asking them
to abandon every bit of that property other than the immediate railroad that they
are using now which we are precluded from doing, putting in some bull dozers in
there and speading a little bit of top soil and seeding that. Now, we are not
in the rain season unfortunately, for that, but I tnin►c we are going to have to do
a little bit of special watering to get the seeds going and then at least we
can have a green area there. I don't think we can do much more than that at this
time. Now, with regards to the last point which was the charging of the F.E.C.
a reasonable rate. I think you ought to get your people together to figure out
what that reasonable rate is and send them a bill immediately back to November
12th. And I think if they refuse as they evidently have refused, you better
ask Mr. Frates to visit the Judge, because I think they are going to have to
pay and I think they better get their sequence straight. Evidently they are
so used to winning these law cases that they don't know what it is to lose, but
they have lost and I think we better... they better begin to understand that.
Now, I think if they refuse, I think you better retain right away some kind of
an appraiser, I would hope at a reasonable rate that would document what a
reasonable rental would be so that we don't have any problems on this. And
Mr. Frates, perhaps you might recommend somebody. And that I do want to talk
about Bates Cole and the appraisers after we pass this motion, because I read
your statement in here and you may be satisfied, but I'm not. I'm sorry for
him because he is a nice man, but we paid him a hundred... between he and the
other appraiser Wilson a hundred fifty thousand dollars and they didn't perform
and when you pay somebody and they don't do their job, then either they make
up for it or they give you back the money. So, I'm ready to vote on these three
issues now. Is there further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-3
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF $200,000 TO THE
LAW FIRM OF FLOYD, PEARSON, STEWARD, RICHMAN, GREER &
WEIL, P.A., AND $50,000 TO WILLIAM S. FRATES, ESQ., FOR
LEGAL SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE
FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY CO. PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING A
TOTAL ALLOCATION OF $250,000 FOR THIS PURPOSE FROM THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-3A
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE IMMEDIATELY STEPS TO
TAKE POSSESSION OF THE F.E.C. TRACT LOCATED ON BISCAYNE BOULEVARD
WHICH WAS BEEN SUBJECT TO RECENT LITIGATION BY REMOVING EXISTING
FENCES, BULDOZING THE ENTIRE TRACT TO A LEVELED CONDITION, INSTALLING
TOP SOIL AND GRASS SEED; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ESTIMATE A PROPER CHARGE TO THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY CO.
FOR THE USE OF EXISTING TRACKS LOCATED ON THIS PROPERTY AND TO
SEND A BILL TO THE RAILROAD COMPANY FOR THE PROPER AMOUNT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES:
NOES: None.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ViceMayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOTE: BY CITY COMMISSION INTENT, BOTH OF THE HEREINABOVE ACTIONS ARE
CONSIDERED TO HAVE PASSED THROUGH SINGLE ROLL CALL.
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Mayor Ferre: Now, I would like to ask that a motion be made or I will make
the motion, that the City Attorney come back by the 28th which is two weeks
from now, with a recommendation on legal proceedings against the appraisers
for non-performance. Since we paid them a hundred fifty thousand dollars
they not only went about it in the wrong way, certainly to the benefit of the
F.E.C. and not to the City of Miami in their basic assumptions, but much
than that. When it came time for them to defend their position they refused to
defend it and refused to go to court as witnesses. The fact that a man was
sick is unfortunate, but I'm sure he could have sent in a written testimony.
He could have done it on video tape. There are a lot of different ways that
he could have... that these appraisers could have stood up. Now, I think it
is totally unacceptable for the taxpayers of this city to have paid a hundred
fifty thousand dollars for services where the people either snookered us or
just down right help our opponents more than they helped us or just refused
to cooperation. Now, that certainly... and furthermore, even though it may be
a moot point, Mr. Knox. I think that we ought to... I'm sure there is a
board, just like you lawyers have an Ethics Board, I'm sure the M.I.A. and
the other appraisal firms have boards, that we ought to make this a case before
them, that I think it is despicable for an appraisal firm to take money from
a government and to refuse to complete the job that they were hired for. I
think that it's a very, very bad precedent and I think that it is bad for that
profession to leave that dark cloud over the name of that profession and I
think we need to make a test case out of this to...and I think, if nothing else
in the future when these appraisers make millions of dollars as they do from
governments, that they will have a little bit more respect for the taxpayers
funds. And so, I so move that you be instructed to institute legal proceedings
and to come back to this Commission, if not by the 28th, by the 1st February
explaining where you are and what you are going to specifically do in these
items that have been brought up. I move it as a motion.
Mr. Perez: I second.
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion.
Mr. Carollo: Any further discussion.
Mr. Plummer: I would like to ask the question Mr. Mayor, are you including the
appraisers who snookered us first of all?
Mayor Ferre: Everybody.
Mr. Plummer: I'm speaking of the ones who appraised the property back for the
bond issue telling the electorate and us that, that property was worth eight
million dollars. So, I hope that those appraisers are also included, because
that was the original snookering.
Mayor Ferre: Everybody and anybody. But I think the people that I'm really
upset about are the people that received a hundred fifty thousand dollars
and who not only went about appraising this that in a way they would favor
the F.E.C., but actually, refused to testify in court. And I just think
that's the most unbelievable story I have ever heard. And I think that we
just can't take something like that sitting down. Now, there is a pattern
of governments doing that... of appraisers doing... these appraisers doing
these things and nobody says anything about it and I'm just... you know,
I'm just... this is it.
Mr. Carollo: A motion has been made and seconded, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Ferre, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-4
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO IMMEDIATELY INSTITUTE
LEGAL ACTION AGAINST ALL APPRAISERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN CONNECTION
WITH THE CITY'S TAKING OF THE F.E.C. BAYFRONT PROPERTY BASED UPON
THEIR REFUSAL TO APPEAR IN COURT TO DEFEND THEIR POSITION IN
CONNECTION WITH APPRAISALS MADE BY THEM AFTER HAVING BEEN PAID FEES
BY THE CITY OF MIAMI TO RENDER SUCH APPRAISALS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ViceMayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre J/1 41982
NOES: None. 08
5. AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE WITH LESTER ALLAN FETTIG
FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES: REVIEW OF CHARTER AND CODE
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Fettig, is he here?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Knox, quickly now. We are now on Item "B".
Mr. Knox: Mr: Mayor and members of the Commission, as you know that there
has not been an exhaustive review of our Charter and Code for a number of
years and one of the charge is when a new Commissioner took office in November
was that we revisit and review our Charter and Code. Now, in that connection
we have identified probably the most critical area that needs the most immediate
and perhaps dramatic attention and that is in the area of the procurement of
goods, services, especially management and professional services. Now, we have
conducted through our own sources a search for an expert who could assist us
in formulating a procurement policy regarding goods and services that is open,
fair, competitive and consistent with the public policy and we would like to
immediately begin work, because to engage in such a reform has a positive
impact on all of the major development activities that the City is endeavoring
to engage in. To that end we have had at least two full days of discussion
with Mr. Lester Fettig, whom I would like to introduce to the Commission. Mr.
Fettig is a nationally recognized expert on procurement procedures and we have
provided to the Commission a copy of his seven page resume outlining his -
professional accomplishments. He has worked for the Office of Management and
Budget in the area of Federal Procurement Policy and he has authored, supervised
and shepherded through the Congress several measures which are related to
procurement policies that the United States Government currently engages in.
In our discussions with Mr. Fettig, he has indicated that there are many provisions
in our Charter and Code that need to be revised and moved around and generally
modernized such that once again the City of Miami will lead local governments _
in the area of procurement policies. I would like to.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Knox, before we hear from Mr. Fettig. How much is
he going to get paid?
Mr. Knox: What I'm seeking today is the authorization to negotiate with Mr.
Fettig. He has indicated... we talked about guidelines and we talked about
his fees and to do the things that immediately need doing in terms of professional
services, he has indicated that his target would probably be around the 1st of
May and the amount that the would anticipate, even though we have not yet
negotiated and we have not come back to the.Commission, may be in the neighborhood
of twenty thousand dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, the 1st of May... I don't have any problems with the
twenty thousand, I do have problems with the 1st of May, because we have got
a lot of roads to walk on and a lot of promises to keep and there are a awful
lot of projects and things that are affected, unfortunately, including Vince's
favorite project and other things that are involved. So, we really need to
get on with this, May 1st is a long time away.
Mr. Knox: Alright, he may be able to talk about a fast track procedure.
Mayor Ferre: And as I understand, Mr. Fettig, you are talking about coming back
to this Commission, not only with a procedure, but Mr. Knox, with a legal document
that would stand the test of a lawsuit, hopefully, in the way we proceed in
developing projects.
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Questions from the Commission?
Mr. Dawkins: The only problem I have is the same one the Mayor says. Is there
anyway possible that you can double your efforts and perhaps get it back to us
before May?
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Mr. Lester Fettig: Mr. Dawkins, the critical problem you have is looking at the
statutory situation you are in now will lackly entail a modification to the City
Code. That is the pacing item. Beneath that...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, boy, you didn't tell me that. You got to change the City
Charter to do this?
Mr. Knox: Well, again, it would depend on the extent to which these... at some
point we would have to change the Charter. Now, there are somethings that
Mr. Fettig can engage in that would allow us to proceed up to a point with the
capital projects that are now on the way. We would anticipate, however, that
at some point there would have to be some Charter revision and at that time
we would come back to the Commission to talk about that process.
Mr. Dawkins. ;Are you saying then, that in order to attempt to avoid the lostly
court actions that we have been subjected to, that if this gentleman develops
- something that says change the Charter, then that's the only reason we would
be changing the Charter.
Mr. Knox: In order to decrease the risk that our procedures would be subject
to legal challenge, it may be necessary to change some provisions in our
Charter.
Mayor Ferre: You are talking about just our Charter, you are not talking about
either something done by Metro or by the Legislature? Just us?
Mr. Knox: That's correct. Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, any other questions from the Commission? If not, moved by
Dawkins, is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will second it because of the terminology that says it's
to send it to negotiations for a final cost.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, further discussion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-5
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
NEGOTIATE WITH MR. LESTER FITTIG, AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF
PROCUREMENT OF SERVICES, IN CONNECTION WITH THE FORMULATION OF
PROCEDURES FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI REGARDING GOODS AND SERVICES,
ESPECIALLY, MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES; FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION
WITH A PROPOSED CONTRACT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ViceMayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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6. APPROVE SUGGESTED "SIGNS" FOR NEW CITY OF MIAMI, UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI, JAMES L. KNIGHT, CONVENTION CONFERENCE CENTER
Mayor Ferre: Is the University of Miami here?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's see if we can do this question of the sign in
five minutes so that...
Mr. Grimm: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, what we want to show you
today is the suggested signs for the Convention Center and there is no backup.
We just did not want to be presumptuous and go ahead and put signs on the
Convention Center a project that we know is dear to your hearts without at least
showing you an idea before and this is purely for discussion, if there is anything
you don't like, you can say so and we will modify it. We have representatives
of the University here and of the developer as well as the architect in case
you have any questions. I might say that the official name of this facility is
the City of Miami/University of Miami James L. Knight International Center.
That sign will appear on the facility once. We thought that, that verbiage
was too great to put up in a very visual place. There will also be a sign which
identifies the Hyatt and a sign that we have on the north face of the building
which says "Miami Convention Center". That sign there, the "Miami Convention
Center" is probably the one that has some controversy. The architects, I'm
sure, would like to see it taken off and I believe that the University of Miami
would like to have it taken off. The basis being that the building is of such
magnitude that everybody will know what it is anyway and we don't need signs.
Mayor Ferre: I will tell you what. I would go along with that if you can get
Hyatt to take their sign off of theirs. If you can't get Hyatt to take their
sign which is three times larger than ours, then you let the poor little old
City of Miami have one day of glory.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Grimm, I thought you were going to take the battle ship out
of the river?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Grimm: Now, these lights would be simple bronze letters with neon oaCk-lit
facilities so they would show up at night.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Mr. Grimm: Basically, that's it.
Mayor Ferre: Vince, are you recommending this?
Mr. Grimm: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, let's hear from the opponents. Do you want to start
it?
Mr. Grimm: I think Dean Allen, here would like to express an opinion for the
University.
Mayor Ferre: Sure. Dean, it's always good to see you, sir.
Mr. Robert Allen: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My name is Robert Allen, I'm a Dean
at the University of Miami. We are grateful for the opportunity of commenting
since it's your decision as to the signs at the center. We would like to express
certain opinions and we hope that you will consider them as you look at this
situation. To begin with, the idea of putting up signs without others looking
at it, signs are already up and of course, signs can go up at any time, we feel
that all elements in the complex should have an opportunity to look at signs.
Secondly, I think from the University point of view, we have always considered
this to be a great academic and cultural center. Aesthetically, I believe many
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of us in the community would like to see the center as kind of a monument. A
sort of place that everyone knows what it is. I don't think we need commercial
type signs. I think we have to promote the center in that way. I think the
center will be promoted by its action and its deeds and I believe the two signs
already, of course, it's Hyatt and Miami Convention Center and we still in terms
of the agreement with the University as I understood it was called the "James
L. Knight International Conference Center" or shorten the "James L. Knight
International Center". Now, what we have here is a situation where the signs
do not identify the name of the center. There will be millions of pieces of
brochures, programs, market calendars that will say the "Hyatt and the Miami
Convention Center". I realize that both have commercial, promotional and
political interest in having this sign, but I think from a community aesthetic
and the mission of this building that it should have signs that are dignified, .
that are aesthetically consistent with the mission of the building. So, our
lament is that perhaps the signs will detract from the beauty of the architecture
and also the accomplishments of the center, that it will commercialize it and
certainly we don't want a beach type commercial atmosphere related to this
type of center. And lastly, no one would know, obviously, that the University
is even related to this center with the signs here.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, Dean, let me, let me... I tell you, I'm really torn because
I think there is a valid argument on both sides. On the one hand the "James
L. Knight University of Miami/City of Miami Convention and Conference Center"
which I think is the full title of this apparatus here, is a real, real long
complicated name which nobody is going to read. Now, if you will notice the
name of the hotel is the "Miami Hyatt Regency"... "Hyatt Regency -Miami", but
that's not what they put on top of their building. They put up "Hyatt". Now,
under that logic we ought to just put up "Knight". The problem is that if
we put up "Knight" nobody will know what it is. Now, as I understand we were
trying to please everybody and we originally had "City of Miami Convention
Center". Now, I will tell you where I think you are violating that, Vince. I
think you are violating that by putting the City of Miami's emblem. Now, I
think we ought to take the City's emblem off or we add the University's emblem
on at the other side so that it has emblem, Miami Convention Center, emblem.
Now, that I wouldn't mind doing, but absent that by your putting up that
palm tree and the circle around it you are identifying it as a City of Miami
facility and I think that even though, obviously, it is that's not in keeping
with our agreement. Now, Bob, on the hand let me put it to you this way. This
is a hundred seventy-five million dollar project? What's it up to these days?
Mr. Grimm: Yes, but with the World Trade Center and the garage, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Absent the World Trade Center just this project alone is what,
a hundred twenty?
Mr. Grimm: Close to a hundred million.
Mayor Ferre: A hundred, ok. Of which the private sector is what? Thirty or
forty?
Mr. Grimm: About that.
Mayor Ferre: So, the City of Miami and the taxpayers have gone out and issued
a sixty-six million dollar bond issue, right?
Mr. Grimm: Sixty million dollars, but we have about ninety-five million dollars
totally in the project counting other sources.
Mayor Ferre: Now, so, the City of Miami taxpayers and the people of Miami
have have ninety-five million dollars into this project. Now, I'm not saying
that since the University of Miami has two and a half million dollars, that
it ought to be in proportion to our contribution, because that wasn't what we
agreed to in the beginning and the fact is that if it hadn't been for Jimmy
Knight and the Foundation and if it hadn't been for the University of Miami this
project wouldn't be here because it would... when you came in that was the
sizzle, so to speak, that kind of sold the old thing. If we hadn't had your
involvement and your cooperation it would have been difficult to get the whole
project on the way. So, we owe you more than the proportion of two and a half
million to ninety million dollars and I think we have got to live up to that
agreement that we made. So, I... as I said, I think there is a good argument
on both sides of the things. We cannot put on this building a long winded
title to it. On the other hand we need to identify it. Now, if we don't want
to do that, then I think my recommendation, Vince, might be that we take the
title off and we just leave the coat of arms of the City and the coat or arms
of the University and let it go at that.
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Mr. Allen: our concern was two fold, Mr. Mayor. We didn't feel it was
necessary to use what would be traditional commercial type signs to identify
the center. I think within a year everyone will know that it is the Knight
Center and that will be the reduced name of if, I believe. Now, secondly,...
Mr. Plummer: Whoah, whoah, would you repeat that?
Mr. Allen: Quickly referring to it, we are referring to it as the Knight Center.
Mayor Ferre: Bob, I want you to know that the City of Miami Commission is
on record unless this Commission wishes to overturn that. That, that definitely
not be the case. That we will not recognize it as the Knight Center. And
that's exactly what we were worried about and I will tell you, you just made
up my mind for me as to what we are going to put on the sign.
Mr. Allen: Well, it is... we thought that was the name of the center, Mr.
Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: No, the name of the center is "Knight University of Miami/City of
Miami Convention Conference Center" or "City of Miami/University of Miami
James L. Knight International Center". This Commission... a previous Commission,
because it goes back even before Lacasa. It was when we had another gentleman
on the Commission nameless here and another lady on the Commission, also nameless
here, who unanimously, if I recall, after debating this thing for an hour came
to an agreement that this would be the name and that it would not be known as
the Knight Center. Now, if you are telling me it's going to be known as the
Knight Center, then you just determined my vote.
Mr. Allen: No, sir, may I correct myself. I said in certain conversations
it's reduced that way, sir, but we have always agreed that it was the City of
Miami/University of Miami James L. Knight International Center and that's the
sign we thought we would see up there.
Mayor Ferre: Bob, I don't mind the tail wagging the dog a little bit, but I
do mind that the tail becoming the head and... well, I have expressed my opinion
and let's hear the other opinions.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will go along with... I have a problem now, because
of discrepency you show on the model Hyatt, yet here on the drawing you show
Hyatt Regency Miami.
Mr. Grimm: That Mr. Commissioner, is on a lower face of the fountain.
Mayor Ferre: See, the problem is that you got a big sign up at the top that
says Hyatt, then you got the main sign supposedly down on the ground. Ok, now,
we are going to have City of Miami/University of Miami James L. Knight International
Center also down on the ground so that as you arrive at the place you get the
full name, but the question is how do we identify it up at the top and the
Administration is recommending that we do it in this way.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I personally have no problem with what is presented before
me.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's get other opinions now. What's the...
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Where I'm having a problem with is the administration is presenting
that in the convention center we will have Miami Convention Center, correct?
I have no problem with that. Now, on top of the hotel it has Hyatt in the
model. What the administration is recommending is that we place Hyatt Regency -
Miami?
Mr. Grimm: No, sir, just the way it is. The Hyatt Regency is down below.
Mr. Plummer: Show him where.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: And where does the main sign "City of Miami/University of Miami
James L. Knight" goes on the wall?
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Mr. Grimm: It's right on that curved wall there Mr. Mayor. It's so small in
scale that it's barely Visible, but it's all on that wall.
Mr. Carollo: So, on top of the hotel "Hyatt" is what's going to be placed
there.
Mr. Grimm: Yes, sir, it's already there in fact.
Mr. Allen: I think, Mr. Mayor, that was our concern that the name was buried
and we felt that the name was not made obvious.
Mayor Ferre: I understand your concern and I think the University's concern is.
that the name is there, but it's buried by being down on the bottom.
Mr. Allen: We don't think it will be Visible and that is the name of the center
and that's the only point we would like to make.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we have got two opinions now. We need some... let's see
what the consensus is on the Commission.
Mr. Allen: Thank you, very much, I appreciate the courtesy. Thank you, Mr.
Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Dean.
Mr. Dawkins: After this is settled, I have something I would like to ask them
about this.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we need to bring this to a head now one way or the other.
Mr. Plummer: I will make a motion that we approve the recommendation of the
Administration.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: I really think, Vince, that we ought to get the City's logo out
of there. When you put the City logo in I think the University has a very
valid point.
Mr. Dawkins: You are amending the motion, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Carollo: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: You are amending the motion, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that, but I mean...
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, well, let's vote on this and then come back...
Mayor Ferre: I can then vote "no" if you wish. You know, I don't want to get
very technical. We are doing...
Mr. Dawkins: It's three to two, then,... I mean, I...
Mayor Ferre: I would like to request that the maker of the motion, I think
if you take the logo off, J. L., I think you really go a little way in
the pain of all of this.
Mr. Grimm: We can always install the logo, if the Commission chooses that we
leave it off initially.
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, I tell you, I...
Mr. Plummer: He didn't hear the three to two vote.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I mean it stands if you want it that way. I think that's
just rubbing their nose in it a little bit too...
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm not trying to rub anybody's nose. I have been
steadfast in my opinion. I think if we are going to have uniformity at the
new administration building, I'm proud of my logo. I'm proud of my city and
I think that logo should be very prevalent. The thing that was before us now...
let me tell you what wasn't before us. The motion has passed and duly so.
They didn't bring up and I wish you had Dean, because I would agree with you
that we could enlarge the significance of your sign down below. Now, I guess
you have a problem with that because you said from an aesthetic stand point of
view that you wouldn't want anything any larger which would apply to you as
to the City, but what's before me today is what's here and I made a motion
predicated upon that.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Carollo: .If I may, Mr. Chairman.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: I would like the City logo there. I personally don't see anything
wrong with it now. If the University would like to place their logo at the
end of"Miami Convention Center; I might be acceptable to that idea, but I
personally would like to see our City logo kept there.
Mr. Plummer: Well, of course, Joe, the problem with that, Dean has said that
he feels that the sign is not aesthetic and if you add more to it that would
make it even more detrimental according to that thinking.
Mayor Ferre: Well, ok. Alright,... We have also got to have a courtesy with the University of Miami and I think I would like to get the concurrence that
if the University of Miami wants to put up its logo at the end of Miami Center
that they have the right to do that too, as long as it is in keeping with the
same design, same materials and the same color so that it's not a completely
different thing.
Mr. Carollo: That I would be acceptable to, but of course, I guess the bottom
line that I'm getting to is that I don't want our logo removed. They could
add theirs if they would like to under those conditions.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is that. acceptable to the maker of the motion?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I would accept Mr. Mayor, that if the University wishes to
place a logo on our sign they surrender it to us and we will approve it, but
without seeing what they are proposing Mr. Mayor, no I would not approve it.
Mayor Ferre: Well, wait a minute. We are talking about the University's logo
which we all know what it looks like, out of the same materials and the same
color and the same size as our logo. Now, how can... you know exactly what that
is.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: Can you accept that as part of your motion?
Mr. Plummer: If you wish.
Mayor Ferre: Will the seconder of the motion accept it? Mr. Dawkins on the
record you have accepted it?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Perez, you have accepted it? Alright, so that at least it's
part and parcel, then of the original motion. Is that acceptable, Mr. Clerk?
Mr. Ongie: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, very much.
Mr. Plummer: At their expense, of course.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-6
A MOTION APPROVING THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR THE PROPOSED SIGNS FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY
OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT CONVENTION CENTER; FURTHER
STIPULATING THAT THE CITY LOGO BE RETAINED AND AUTHORIZING
THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI TO INSTALL ITS LOGO AT THE ENT OF THE
WORDS "MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER" SO LONG AS THEIR LOGO IS
MADE OF THE SAME MATERIAL, THE SAME SIZE AND THE SAME COLOR
AS THE CITY'S LOGO.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed
and adopted by, the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dawkins, Mr. Plummer and Vice -Mayor Carollo.
Unanimous. Motion was amended after roll call.
ABSENT: None.
7. DISCUSSION ITEM: PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF CHIEF HARMS
"CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS"
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, Chief.
(BACKGROUND COMMENTS OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, Chief.
Chief Harms: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, Mr. Manager, first I
want to express my appreciation for an opportunity to share with you some of
the initiatives that the Miami Police Department with your assistance and the
assistance of the community has initiated more particularly during the past
year to address some of the crime problems that this community has been faced
with. The purpose of my comments is not to dwell on the root causes of crime,
although we certainly know that they exist. Nor is it to belabor the causes
for the failure of the Criminal Justice System, but rather to update you on
certain initiatives that we have created and implemented. We, the Commission,
the Police Department, the citizens. First, however, a brief overview of the
system and those it serves is in order. As a society we have not done nearly
enough to alleviate the cause for the enclaves of poverty existing within
most Metropolitan areas, including those in Miami. The great social programs
of our time, the federally guaranteed home financing program V.A. & F.H.A. and
transportation has done little to alleviate the suffering in our ghetto and
to ameliorate what we have come to regard as those root causes of crime. Those
include inadequate housing, lack of job and educational opportunities and a
general feeling of helplessness and dispair which ultimately put many inner
city residents in conflict with other segments of the community and the laws
of our society. Many of these failures are failure ultimately become police
problem. The Criminal Justice System as we know it is a rather dismal
failure. It's over burdened and under resourced. It's lost much of its ability
to insure a quality of life that we in this community have taken for granted
for a great many years. The police as the initiating element within that system
are insufficient in mumbers to address the unprecedented crime problems which
have been aggravated by an ineffective immigration policy and a laisser (fr.)
attitude on the part of the federal government regarding narcotics and drugs.
Your support has done much to address the failures of the federal government.
The special programs encouraged and funded by Commission action has helped our
community turn the corner from August of 1980. This is a high point or a high
water mark, if you would and this chart reflects January of 1978 thru September
of 1981 and what it reflects is a gradual upward trend that matches pretty much
the national trend and the significant difference at this point... the significant
difference that we can reflect back on was thst unprecedented influx of refugees
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that I spoke of a moment or two earlier. Now, since that point and time, August
of 1980 we have experienced a gradual downward trend and I think there is some
very realistic reasons why that trend is reflected as it is. Increase in _
resources at the direction of the City Commission. New initiatives that we
developed in concert with the Commission and the community. The special
contingency fund, the law enforcement contingency fund and the application of
that fund to the department and the problems that we were addressing has caused,
I believe or been the significant cause of that downward trend to the current
time. Now, you see minor increases, but they continually reflect that downward
trend and we are satisfied that when all the figures are in at the end of this
reporting period that the year end totals will reflect a continuation of that
process. Now, what I expect is that we will come closer to matching the
national average, but again, those two primary problems, the unrealistic
immigration policy and lack of effective utilization of that policy by the
federal government, federal responsibility and the narcotics problem will make
the difference between the national trend line and the experience that we are
having in South Florida. But our increase in resources and effectiveness is
not enough. The State Attorney's Office handled approximately twenty-seven
thousand felony filings in 1981 with an average case load of three hundred
fifty cases per assistant. That case load should more realistically be
approximately two hundred. Now,I think that, that overload is one of the primary
factors that's contributed to about ninety-eight percent of all of those
case filings being disposed of in a manner other than trial. What I'm saying
in reversed order is that less than two percent of those total filings resulted
in a trial either jury or a bench. Now, we can talk about what happens to the
rest, but I'm suggesting that the threshold is established to manage the case
load and a lot of the fall out from the system itself is predicated on the
lack of resources.
Mayor Ferre: Chief, repeat the figures. Three fifty, is that arrests?
Chief Harms: No, sir, that's three hundred fifty cases per Assistant State
Attorney per year. That figure...
Mayor Ferre: Oh, ok. And what are the figures for officers, because you
have some figures as to how many arrests each officer makes as a national
average and we are something like three times higher.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir. We are between two and a half and three times above
the national average with regard to arrests.
Mayor Ferre: Per officer.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, that's correct and we will talk about how that's created
an additional burden on the balance of the system, but... and we will get into
the philosophy of how we are managing that case load. Now, to handle- those
twenty-seven thousand filings or the major portion of them fifteen criminal
court judges have been assigned, which is completely inadequate based on, again,
my judgement and my understanding of the facts, fifteen criminal court judges
to handled the majority of those twenty-seven thousand filings. Now, it's
my understanding that a judge receives approximately two hundred cases a month
and if he is good he can handle five or six, or she is good, they can handle
five or six with a jury trial. The balance of those cases, again, are managed
in a way which causes them to fall out or be negotiated out of the system that's
supposed to be dispensing justice. Now, given the unusual circumstance the
individual that's works his way through the system and ultimately ends up with
a sentence to do jail time, what we have come to realize is that, that sentence
is most frequently, the length of it determined not by what the judge makes
a decision on, but the available storage space and other factors beyond the
judges control. The system is funded from three primary sources, from the
Federal, zrom the State and the local level and these must all be resourced,
all of the elements must be properly resourced on a balanced basis in order
to insure the effectiveness of the system itself. It's essential to restore
once again, the credibility of our system through the belief of the certainty
of apprehension, swift and fair trial and certainty of punishment to fit the
crime. Our solace, those of us within law enforcement has not been in
criticizing the other elements of the system, but in developing and implementing
community safety initiatives that we believe have been well reasoned and
effective in serving our community's police service needs. It's these
programs that I will present to the Commission this morning.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Chief, let me...
Chief Harms: I'm taking just a brief break from my presentation.
Mr. Plummer: Chief, the thing that bothers me is the one point that is in
my craw and you haven't spoken to it and I guess that irritates me even
further. Not irritates, concerns me. The Mayor spoke to arrest total numbert
you spoke to prosecutors, but the one thing you didn't speak to is the people
who have been arrested and how many more times they are arrested before they
are brought to the first trial. That bothers me.
Chief Harms: Commissioner, let me interject for just a moment. I will deal
with that issue and certainly appreciate your concern with regard to repeat
offenders. I really should act concern. It's one of the major problems we
have in establishing credibility.
Mr. Plummer: If you are going to address it later, I will hold up.
Chief Harms: The first of the programs that we are going to profile, and again,
I'm going to provide sort of a summary profile of these programs. They have
been presented in the material that has been provided before and a recompilation
of that material in a booklet that you received this morning.. ICAP is an
acronym for the integrated criminal apprennension program ana is a rational
comprehensive approach to the delivery of police service. Its objective is to
use an organized approach to more effectively managed criminal information in
police personnel. The three components of that system are effectiveness,
efficiency and the use of community resources. Through crime analysis directed
operations involving the task force, crime sweep, street crime arrest team,
career criminal program are focused on the problems where they are occuring
during the hours of greatest frequency. That means essentially as we analyze
the crime problem and we make determination about where future crimes are going
to occur and then send the appropriate resources there to deal with it. With
regard to efficiency and Commissioner Plummer, this is an issue that you and
I have spoken about for sometime, calls for service management is a very real
part of this program and we have implemented this and last month we were up
to forty percent alternative report writing mechanism. Meaning that through
our tole reporting system a little better than forty percent of our total
calls were handed in that manner with a lot of good feed back from the community,
because what in fact occurs is we are able to provide that service generally
in a more rapid manner freeing up additional police officer time to deal with
street crimes and some of those other concerns. That's an ongoing program and
a very integral part of the entire ICAP process. Now, with regard to additional
efficiency issues. Alternative police resources and this another program that
have spoken about, include PSA, reserve officers and volunteers to be utilized
in the department to supplement or augment the efforts of our uniformea
police officers. I will report on those other aspects, including reserve
officer in a few minutes. Operations analysis and police performance project
will then tell us how effective we are on a unit by unit basis in dealing with
their responsibilities. We are going to take a look at what they are doing,
what they should be doing measuring the difference and redirecting our resources
to make sure that they are dealing effectively and in a timely way with the
problems that have been identified. Now, with regard to the use of community
resources this program encourages a shared responsibility between the Police
Piepartment and its agency in problem identification and resolution. It's a
joint venture, if you would. We create a feed back loop so we can tell those
communities we serve with programs such as the community crime prevention project
what kind of crime problems they are experiencing in the community and then
again, based on that shared responsibility we listen and deal with their
concerns and together develop an approach to resolve the problem. The next
two programs and I present them in tandem, are the crime sweep and the clean
sweep and they are designed to remove known criminals and truant juveniles
from selected target areas in a professional and legal manner. The first of
the two programs, crime sweep, selects targets through crime analysis and
citizen input was initiated in October of 1981 towards the end of October and
during nine operations of the crime sweep program involving approximately
eighteen to twenty officers initiated two hundred seventy-six arrests with
one hundred forty-nine identifiable repeat offenders with accumulative arrest
history of in access of thirteen hundred seventy-nine arrests. That's roughly
nine arrests per individual and that's not supprising. We predicted that
before the fact. Many of these arrest are in tandem. A misdemeanor arrest
will lead to a, carrying a concealed weapon as an example, but what concerns
us and the points you made and I wail address that right now, is that many
of these individuals that we continually come in contact with are ill fact
repeat offenders. They come into and through the system time and time again.
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And it's not unusual to identify an individual with thirty or forty arrest over
a ten year period of time. When we talk about lack of credibility in the system
that's one of the primary reasonF and in a system such as ours it is over loaded
it just aggravates it by bringing the people into the system and pushing them
back out in the street again. If the prosecutor can't do her job because of
inaccurate resources, public defender, judiciary and we don't have enough room
in the jails, then what happens are the decisions to release are predicated by
work load factors. We have to change that part of the system around. The
next program.clean sweep► is a program that we initiated shortly after my
appointment. It's an ongoing program and during the past nine months resulted
in five hundred sixty-six truant apprehensions and an additional eight hundred
forteen arrests by our youth resource officers in and around schools. Now, the.
kind of work that youth resources officers would do, address the kind of problems —
that unfortunately were experienced at Edison Middle School the other day. That
individual would have been considered a trespasser and had we had an opportunity
to arrest, an arrest would have, in fact, been made. What we found through
the application of this program we have reduced significantly the incidents of
auto theft, of home burglary and larcenies within the areas where we run these
sweep operations. I feel that it's a responsibility that we have to the
community and should be shared with the school system, but unfortunately, the
school system did away with their old turant officer concept and feel that if
it's outside of the boundaries of the school, that it becomes our responsibility.
We try to fulfill that based on the crimes we prevent by getting the youngsters
back into school where they belong anyway.
Mayor Ferre: Chief?
Chief Harms: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: So I can read this later on, is that part of this...
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, it is.
Mayor Ferre: It's all covered in here, right?
Chief Harms: Yes, sir it is. I'm supplementing it some of it with additional
comments. The scat program or street crime arrest team uses existing patrol
overlap personnel in targeted operations against criminals and pushers. Because
of the four day work week we have certain overlap periods. We have tried to
manage those periods in the most effective way, so that we can take some of the
overlap officers that we now have the availability of due to several other
programs, including increased personnel. We identify certain specific targets
that they work on during those overlap periods. It's a new program. It give
us an opportunity to use about two hundred hours a week in this endeavor,
focuses on street crime with no additional costs. A two week report reflected
twenty-two felony arrests and forty-eight misdemeanor arrests. Now, we are
starting to realize the impact of some of these special programs when I hear
comments from the State Attorney such as last month our felony filings went
up by twenty percent and we think that the Miami Police Department made a
major contribution to our case load. We also feel it from corrections when
they tell us that not only are they now over crowded, but they are very much
over crowded and they recognize that some of these programs are again,
contributing to their increase and work load.
Mr. Plummer: Isn't that a shamg.
Chief Harms: That's right. I would suggest at this point that we are going
to get them off of the street and try to force the balance of the system into
properly resourcing those components so that they could effectively deal with
the individuals that we arrest to try to keep some of the recitatives, the
career criminal in jail where they belong. The floating foot beats really
came as a result of the five hundred thousand dollar overtime fund that the
Commission initiated last year that permitted us to take overtime officers
and put them in priority areas. What we realized during that program is that
many of the areas that we work really needed additional police service on a
regular basis. In order to accommodate those needs while we recognized that
we did not have the funds or the personnel to continue it on a full time basis.
We developed the floating foot beat concept which would assess those previous
beat locations based on hazard, based on crime and other problems and then
assign them on a random basis to try to deal with those problems. This again,
was a result of Commission initiative. We think it's a good program and it's
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continuing to serve us well. Warrant management is a very interesting new
concept for us, up to this point and time warrant service has been a primary
function and responsibility of the County, but we realize that they are in -
excess of six thousand warrants for people that we believe are in Miami out
of a total of about twenty-four thousand felony warrants. I'm talking about
the serious warrants. Now, what we are going to try to do if we can get the
information in the proper form from the County is identify the most criminal
of those individuals, those who have records for street crimes, those whose
warrants reflect crimes of burglary, robbery, assault, stay away from some
of the less serious ones, identify those career criminals and attempt with
our street officers, our task force, our wagon crews based on location in
town to try to serve those warrants and get those individuals off the street
as well. Now, we are not satisfied at this point that the Public Safety
Department... the Metro Police Department, correction on the name or the County
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has placed sufficient emphasis in the serving of those warrants and we think
that many of the people who have outstanding warrants create over and over,
many of the problems that we continue to try to address.
Mayor Ferre: Is that their new name "Metro Police Department"?
Chief Harms: Yes, that's correct. They went through a name change several
months back. The Marine and Beach Patrol is designed to provide a means to
patrol Miami's waterways and Virginia Key and the reduced narcotics and other
crime problems. In a survey conducted not too long ago we realize that we
have got approximately nineteen and a half square miles of water, twenty-three
miles of coastline and twenty-three inlets. Now, many years ago the County
agreed to provide the City with marine patrol services. In 1975 they went
up to a high of thirty-five employees and somewhere in the vicinity of nine
operational vessels. Since that time they have decreased vessels to six and
reduced their resources, personnel resources by about fifty-five percent.
Instead of increasing during that period they have decreased and budget is in
fact been the primary cause of that decrease. In short, what's occurring is
an inaccurate level of marine patrol service to our marine interest in the
City of Miami. Now, as you are aware, we control about five hundred acres
of Virginia Key. Very shortly through a land trade with the County we will
have the other two hundred acres of the Key, probably the two hundred most
utilized acres which will aggravate the problems that we are currently dealing
with and again, we attempted to address the problems on the Key through the
structuring of a special beach patrol. Up until that point in time by mutual
agreement, the County had agreed to provide service to the Key. They were there,
they were in the surrounding area, the irregularity of the property line of
the City and County line just made it conducive. We were in agreement with
their providing the service and they did. As they started withdrawing that
service, then our responsibility increased proportionately. And with the
advent in popularity of off road vehicles, we have had a lot of problems on the
Key with off road vehicles and other abuses to the property. The beach patrol
was experimental in the summer, utilized on weekends and holidays particularly
a couple of off road vehicles to provide police service. That service to the
Key would be augmented by the Marine Patrol. in a.AAi.tion to the other duties
and responsibilities that the Marine Patrol will have. That needs funding and
towards the end of this presentation, I will suggest how we can fund it together.
Mayor Ferre: Chief,...
Chief Harms: Yes, sir.
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Chief Harms: Now, I am rushing through some of it in order to try to comply
with the time restraints. The rapid deployment force is to provide the ability
to mobilize and transport additional backup officers when required. It
envisions the use of two wheel vehicles that are... that we anticipate will
be ordered to replace the current three wheel fleet. We have, unfortunately,
a very bad experience with the three week fleet, not in the program itself,
but in the transportation. There is no company today that markets and
an acceptable three wheel vehicle. So, in order to provide transportation
for the foot beat officers assigned primarily to the business communities
throughout the City in the nine basic areas, Allapattah, Little River, Coconut
Grove, Downtown, these vehicles will provide that transportation and also
provide an immediate availability of officers who can move beyond traffic
congestion to provide immediate backup support. This is a new program. If
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the Commission today authorizes the purchase of the vehicles that based on an
agended item, then I will provide an approximation of sixty days to implement
the program and the majority of that time is for vehicle delivery.
Mayor Ferre: I don't understand how Hondas would be able... I don't understand,
may be Plummer can explain it.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, let me give you an example. If we had a major problem
to deal with on Key Biscayne, on Virginia Key or Key Biscayne based on a mutual aid
agreement that we have with the County and the Causeway was completely stacked
up, we have got a couple of other choices of how we might deliver police service.
One would be by air and the other would be by water. The size of these vehicles,
these motorcycles would permit officers to respond in between traffic, around
through the sand if necessary, off road to the scene of an emergency situation.
Mayor Ferre: 'Well what other use would they have other than to get across the
causeway?
Chief Harms: This would be a secondary use. A primary use would be to provide
transportation to the patrol officers who provide beat service to areas such
as Coconut Grove.
Mayor Ferre: Let me understand this, because I think this is something that
I have been advocating for years and I... What you are saying is, you are going
to get officers out of automobiles and yet you want to go back to foot patrol,
but you can't get them around quickly enough because the areas they have got
to cover is too big and bicycles, we tried that once up in the north part of
town really is not the way to do it. So, you are now going to go to these
mechanized bicycles, so to speak.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, that's correct.
Mayor Ferre: And you are going to use them on beats, is that it?
Chief Harms: Yes, sir we are. Now, you have seen the three wheel officer
from time to time that all provide services to the Dinner Key area, he works
in the Grove at times using that same vehicle. The object is to provide
transportation to the beat itself, provide transportation from time to time
in between the officers patrolling on foot, making contacts and dealing with
individuals within that community. Now, the size of the beat is smaller than
a car, but larger than a foot beat officer could service without transportation.
This will be a supplemental use of those vehicles on an emergency basis. I
would hope that we don't have too many of those emergencies to address, but
it provides a ready backup force for those kind of emergencies.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. I hate to ask this question and I apologize to you and to
J. L., but other than for funerals, what do we really need the motorcycles for
in a City like Miami where... which is relatively small...
Chief Harms: The two primary purposes have to do with developing and implementing
a successful selective enforcement program to reduce vehicular accidents,
bodily injury and death...
Mayor Ferre: The question is, would this be a replacement of the motorcycles?
Chief Harms: No, sir, these vehicles would not be used for traffic enforcement.
Mayor Ferre: What do we need motorcycles for?
Chief Harms: For selective enforcement programs to deal with traffic, accidents,
traffic fatalities and so on. Now, in addition to that, that particular group
also serves as a ready response unit on a twenty-four hour basis because of
their availability and the method of transportation.
Mayor Ferre: How many motorcycles do we have?
Chief Harms: We have approximately twenty-five officers assigned to the
enforcement unit. Now, back in the early 60's we had a high of about sixty-five.
Since that time there has been a gradual deemphasis on the traffic function
and a greater emphasis on the problems associated with street crime. The next
program is the sexual battery unit and it's objective is to establish a
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separate unit to handle sexual batteries and felony assaults. At the current
time those responsibilities fall to the homicide investigators and with their
increasing work load and responsibility frequently the crimes of sexual battery
and felony assault are not given property attention. We have been concerned
about this and it's reflected in the reduction in clearance rates. We feel
that through the implementation of this program we can develop some experts
in that area who have a sensitivity to the victim and understanding what it
takes for a good prosecution and the objective of the program is to increase
clearance rate and to increase arrests and to increase our success in the
prosecution of those cases. We currently estimate a start up time of February
of 1982 and training is currently under way. As a matter of fact, as I stand
here talking to you the sergeant that will head up that detail is at .the F.B.I.
Academy undergoing special training to give him the ability to be more effective
in that assignment. Again, we think it's a very important adjunct to some of
the other effprts we are involved with. So, again, we would expect February of
1982 to be the start up date for that program.
Mayor Ferre: Chief, does the County do that function now?
Chief Harms: Yes, sir. Well, they do it for their department and selected
other departments. It is a separate function within the homicide unit and they
divide up the responsibility between investigating homicides.
Mayor Ferre: Now, answer my question.
Chief Harms: Do they do it for who?
Mayor Ferre: Obviously, for the City of Miami?
Chief Harms: No, sir, they don't.
Mayor Ferre: They never have.
Chief Harms: They have it. They have not done it. They are not doing it
now and we don't anticipate that they should do it.
Mr. Plummer: They do maintain the rape center through Jackson Hospital.
Chief Harms: Jackson Hospital and Dr. Hicks maintain the rape treatment center.
I had a conversation with her the other day. She was very enthusiastic about
this program. She thought it's what we needed to deliver an appropriate level
of service to the victims of rapes and serious assualts. The cold case teams,
the objectives of that team or those teams. Team one, to solve inactive cases
and arrest offenders. Frequently what happens with the crime of homicide if
the arrest is not made and the leads wear thin within a couple of weeks the
case is then designated as inactive. We have assigned one sergeant and two
investigators to an ongoing program in July of 1981 and they are responsible
to review open and inactive cases and if they see something that would suggest
a reopening of those cases, then they follow up the workable cases. Within
the past four months four cases were cleared through arrest. Team two, will
focus on narcotics cases, will work directly with the County, the Drug Enforcement
Administration and other law enforcement agencies to deal specifically with
narcotics related homicides and certainly in the past couple of years we have
seen a rather dramatic increase in those crimes. The next program is the
reserve officer program and we hope that it will provide a means for concerned
citizens to aid police in maintaining uniformed patrol. We have had some
problems with that program that we are attempting to overcome and I think we
will. Fifty officers were approved in July of 1981. That will be a part-time
status for those involved with a hundred seventy hour State, mandated training
program. They will be utilized with a regular officer. At the current time
sixty-eight tested, forty-two referred, twenty-three in processing, four
qualified. The major problems we have found with that program up to this
point are the hours that the test can be given by Human Resource. So, we
are going to ask them to change that fact we have to the evenings and weekends
and the criteria that we have utilized for exclusion from the program, that
too has been modified. We anticipate startin¢ a class of twentv in February
and have either in an active capacity or in class fifty by October 1, 1982.
If that program is as effective as I believe it will be, we will be asking
for the authority to extend it in the following year by perhaps another
twenty-five or fifty. Commissioner Plummer, you are familiar with this
program. We have discussed it. We are getting some help from Human Resources,
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for our own people in increasing our recruiting efforts and increasing our
qualification of viable candidates for the program.
Mr. carollo: Chief, excuse me.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: How long have you had this plan for the reserve officer in the
planning stages. The plan was developed prior to Commission authorization
in July of 1981. We have been working on the plan essentially in the development
of it for about a year and a half. Now, we set it to one side primarily in
the year prior to this half that we are dealing with now when we have been
talking about developing the program because of the massive hiring and training
program that we were going through. Many of the same people that would be used
for training reserve officers are training police officers. Many of the same
people involved in the background investigations are the same ones. We deferred
this program, given the large number of officers that we were hiring and training.
About a year and a half to respond to your question.
Mr. Carollo: The reason I asked the question is because I wanted to know if
I was any source of encouragement went I requested for this program to come into
existence over two years ago when I came aboard.
Chief Harms: Absolutely, as a matter of fact, that provided some of the incentive
on the part of the department to try to move the program forward given the other
responsibilities. And I'm sure we will. It's going slower than I would like.
I would like to get it in place. I think it will be an excellent program for
the City. One other problem we have with it is a mandated hundred seventy hours
of State training. We requested approval and received it from the State to
deliver it in smaller packages in twenty hours a week. Now, the problem with =
a twenty hour a week program. If you take the average person who works a full-time -
job, it's very difficult to get them to make that kind of a commitment on a
weekly basis, so you have a very high fall out rate. So, we are going to teach it in smaller blocks. I want to try to make it convenient for the people attenting,
one evening class a week, I believe, and a Saturday class which will accommodate
the hours that we are committed to.
Mr. Carollo: How many weeks are we talking about all together then?
Chief Harms: I haven't looked at the schedule, but how ever many it takes to
accommodate the hundred seventy hours. Now, we can start using them in a limited
capacity in a training capacity prior to the completion of service. Correction, _
prior to the completion of training. Now, once... Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Has any thought been given to perhaps using some individuals who
have washed out the academy who already have a hundred seventy hours of training?
Chief Harms: Well, the training is not compatible. We can't exchange one for
the other. I wish we could. But to answer your question, yes, we have considered
it.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, explain to me where the incompatibility is.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir. In the program criteria that the State has established
The two programs are not synonymous, training in one does not provide qualification
iri the other. Now, the State dictates to us what the hundred seventy hours will
be dedicated to. Now, once that program is completed, then they are in fact,
reserve officers. Now, there is some compatibility in some of the courses,
but not in the overall curricular. So, let me give you an example, if we had
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Chief Harms: (conk) an individual attend 200 hours of academy instruction
to be a police officer and failed, it may be that 25 or 30 or 35 hours of
that total 200 would be applicable to the other curricula. The problem you
then run into is determining which ones are compatible and then getting the
State to give credit for the 25 or 30 or 35 hours. If we have fall -out
from the academy, as far as I know at this point, they are going to be re-
quired to go through the full reserve officer curriculum. We are attempt-
ing to explore that with the State now so that we can try to reduce that
time as it relates to those individuals.
Mr. Dawkins: Then these reserve officers have no entry into becoming police
officers or law enforcement officers, it is just a pacification in order to
get people on the streets, is that right or wrong?
Chief Harms: It is partially right, that progarm is not designed by its
nature to try to bring a policeman into the Department but to provide a
vehicle to get citizens, merchants, other individuals within the commun-
ity to take part in their Police Department. A very large majority of these
people have regular jobs, they don't want to be full time policemen, but
they feel a responsibility and a commitment to provide some level of service
back to the community. Our PSA Program, a couple of other programs try to
get individuals involved in being police officers, let me give you a further
example. The criteria we use in this progarm is not as restrictive as the
criteria we use for officers so we're going to accept many people into that
program who could not qualify by virtue of age or physical condition, could
not qualify to be a police officer.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, I think what is most important, and I think the key
to this program, is the volunteer. This is a dollar a year. And I think
one of the other things is that they are required once they are certified
and have been accepted, it is mandated they must serve 20 hours a month for
a dollar a year. And the only other thing they have is that if they get
hurt we cover them with City insurance. So it is not the kind of a program
in which you're trying to get future recruitments for the Police Department
which is, in fact, the PSA. That program definitely is, they're full time
employees of the City of Miami Police Department, they make around $12,O00
a year and....
Mr. Dawkins: But they never matriculate to the Police Department.
Mr. Plummer: Oh no, that's not true, a lot of them have.
Mr. Dawkins: No, a few of them.
Mr. Plummer: Well, a few of them, all right. But I'm saying, you see, we
tried two years ago, Miller, to start a program of CSA's, this was a younger
group than the PSA's when we would grab them right out of high school. Un-
fortunately, the monies that we had for that were pulled by the federal govern-
ment and we never got to that program.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, Chief Harms.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir. The next program is a comprehensive crime prevention
project and it is one I consider to be the most effective that we have devel-
oped and implemented in the previous years. That particular program serves
as an umbrella to a number of other programs including crime watch, operat-
ion identification, community involvement forums and crime prevention programs
generally. Under this program, 9 sub -councils have been created and placed
within 9 major geographic areas of the City of Miami: Allapattah, Wynwood,
Little Havana, Overtown, Downtown, Model City, Coconut Grove, Edison and
Little River. Now the object of that program is to encourage participation
on an on -going basis with the Police Department and to gather, identify prob-
lems and develop solutions for those problems. That was a federally funded
program for two years and the funding is scheduled to run out in March of this
year. I'm going to propose through another program that we extend that fund-
ing until the end of September of this year when we're going to attempt to
pick it up as a regular part of the budget. Again, we think that that is a
very effective program for encouraging citizen involvement and served as a
model around the country. Now, a program that ties in very closely to that,
and Commissioner Dawkins, this is a program that you and I had discussed, is
a community forum program. What we hope to do with that is to provide a
forum for community leaders, citizens and city officials, department directors
or assistant directors to discuss and seek resolution to problems with City
department directors. Some time ago in some of my community walk throughs
I became aware that many of the problems that a given community was facing
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did not involve the police at all but it involved a responsibility of another
City department. As a pilot project, we developed and implemented one in
Culmer and we had what I consider to be a very successful meeting, we spent
about 20 minutes around the table, we then got in a bus and did a tour
where they could point out the problems to us and we did a walk through
after that. We then came back and talked about whose responsibility each
particular problem. Through that particular method, it was extremely ef-
fective. Now, what we propose to do with the community forum model is to
tie that in with the Community Crime Prevention Project and through the sub -
councils create what we will call a townhall meeting where City officials,
department directors or assistant directors and representatives of the
City Manager's staff will appear or attend on a monthly basis to determine
what problems the community is dealing with. It will also give the Commis-
sion a good feed -back mechanism on an on -going basis from those communities
that we serve. Yes, sir?
Mayor Ferre: You know that I have always been a very very strong advocate
of community involvement to become, if you will, the eyes and ears of the
Police Department in police work.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: And I think that is probably the single most important thing
that we in this City can do and that is to get people in the community, all
communities, black, white, Latin and everybody, to really be interested and
involved in the safety and well-being of their own homes and neighborhoods
by it being part of the I'alice Department in the way that they can be. Now,
the thing that concerns me always is that these programs can only be imple-
mented in certain parts of town and that those areas that perhaps need imple-
mentation the most where crime is the highest is where you have the proclivity
for less involvement because people just want to stay home and lock the doors
rather than become part. So, in other words, what I'm saying is that it is
natural for the Northeast Improvement Association to show a great deal of
interest in protecting Belle Meade Island and it is a little bit harder for
the neighbors in Culmer to be part of a Crime Watch operation.
Chief Harms: I hope it won't be through this program because this program
will use the sub -councils and the crime prevention project as the basis for
the forum itself and one of those projects exists in Culmer.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I just wart to make sure that Little Havana and Culmer
and Allapattah and Wynwood and the tougher areas are also as much a part.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, and I agree with you. Each one of those communities
that you just referred to have a sub -council that exists, that's in effect,
exists right now. -
Mayor Ferre: If you remember, during the budget process I asked you speci-
fically how many we had and as I remember the answer was around 19 or 20 that
were functioning effectively now.
Chief Harms: Are you referring to the Crime Watch Programs?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Chief Harms: Well, we had considerably more than that, some were business
watch, some were community watches and this program again, the Community
Crime Prevention Project serves as an umbrella for the Crime Watch Program
which we try to energize through those resources.
Mayor Ferre: But the problem, whether it was 19 or 60, whatever, is that,
as I recall, it was less than 10% of the total that we needed.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, that's correct.
Mayor Ferre: And I wanted to really make sure that we make some progress
in Little Havana and Allapattah and Culmer as well as the Northeast part
of town.
Chief Harms: Yes, we have been making progress and again, that Comprehensive
Crime Prevention Project, very important to extend funding on it, serves as
i' a basis or a vehicle to develop that program.
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Mayor Ferre: Okay. Well, we need to bring this now to a conclusion because
y it is 1-:3n.
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Chief Harms: I can wrap up in just a couple of minutes. I'll tell you
that in your booklet there is a review of a number of initiatives that I
have dealt with in various forums during particularly the last twelve
months, the presentation I made before the Dade Delegation, before the
Attorney General's Task Force on Violent Crime, before Senate Select Sub -
Committees on Narcotics Abuse, as a result of those presentations, I have
provided the Commission with 12 initiatives that I think are particularly
important and I would ask that you review those initiatives and the hand-
out material that we have and then we can get back together and decide
what the appropriate forum for support is and we can move forward with
that as well. And I believe the City Attorney's Office will be addressing
this issue after lunch. The only other item that I would like to touch on
is agenda item 22 this afternoon, is recommending an appropriation ordinance
in the amount of $356,192. This comes from FY '81 Legislative appropriation,
specifically Bill 1135E which allocated $10,000,000 on a state-wide basis
for non -recurring, one time, expenses related to crime control, corrections,
or detention programs. Within that area, I have recommended six basic pro-
grams which also appear as a part of your package and I'm going to ask that
you fund. Now, we can address that in more detail this afternoon, but the
Community Crime Prevention Project is one at $125,000, the Marine Patrol
Program, Major Crime Scene and Mass Arrest Vehicle Processing Van, Special
Threat & Recovery Response Vehicle, Bomb Response Program. Now, what I will
do is present myself this afternoon so that I can deal in depth with any
questions that you may have regarding that.
Mr. Carollo: Especially, Chief, the bottom line is that the items I would
like to see with the utmost importance today are the ones that we're expect-
ing to get that State funding for because I understand from what we spoke
about that if we don't use that money now we loose it.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, it's a use or lose situation and it is pretty nar-
rowly defined in terms of what it can be used for and the recommendations
I made are just those, my best recommendations to the Commission as to how
the money should be expended. So again, we can touch on that this after-
noon, and Mr. Mayor, I have gone beyond my allocated time. Thank you very
much.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any questions of the Chief at this particular time?
If not, thank you for a thorough presentation, Chief, I look forward to
reading this.
Chief Harms: Yes, sir, there is one other point I would make. In the appendix
are another 20 programs that are excellent but we did not profile today.
Mayor Ferre: Tell me what this packet is that I just got about an hour and
a half ago.
Chief Harms: I believe that came by way of Mr. Knox, I won't attempt to ex-
plain that.
Mr. Knox: Mr. Mayor, the Commission can decide whether or not it will wish
to deal with that, but you did charge the City Attorney's Office with the
formulation of a comprehensive plan in conjunction with the report that has
been given by the Chief of Police relating to several items and that was at
the first meeting following the installation of the new Commission. That is
the written report and we do have an Assistant City Attorney who can high-
light that report.
Mayor Ferre: Is this going to be addressed today, a subsequent meeting
after we've read all of this?
Mr. Knox: Well, I think that that would be probably the most meaningful
approach, and for those who don't have copies, we can distribute them between
now and the next meeting and we'll schedule ourselves at the next meeting for
that purpose.
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time now, so that we can eventually move
along but yet address these issues succinctly, I think the Commission should
have time to review the presentation of the Police Chief and review the mater-
ial that you have placed here. Then, Mr. Manager, I think that you should
set aside one hour of the Commission's time perhaps at the February Meeting
for the Commission to react to all of these things and come up with either
a recommendation of a policy, if you will, on issues dealing with the Criminal
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Justice System. Is t': acceptable to everybody? Do(* anybody have any
problems with that?
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mayor Ferre: Unless there are any further statements or questions, we'll
stand adjourned and we'll reconvene here at 2:00 O'Clock.
The City Commission recessed at 12:40 P.M. and reconvened at 2:10 P.M.
with Commissioner Perez and Mayor Ferre absent.
8. CONSENT AGENDA:
Vice -Mayor Carollo: Before the vote on adopting items included in the Consent
Agenda is taken, is there anyone present who is an objector or proponent that
wishes to speak on any item in the Consent Agenda? Hearing none, the vote on
the adoption of the Consent Agenda will now be taken. The Consent Agenda is
comprised of Items 71, 72 and 73. Item 74 has been withdrawn.
The following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Plummer, seconded
by Commissioner Dawkins and passed and adopted by the following vote- _
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
8.1 DIRECT C_TY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING - COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION - LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5462-C and
SR-5462-S.
RESOLUTION NO. 82-7
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE
OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE
CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY F. J.
SILLER AND COMPANY OF LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
IN LYNDALE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5462-C
(CENTERLINE SEWER) AND SR-5462-S (SIDELINE SEWER).
8.2 AUTHORIZE INCREASE IN CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $7,000 - AUGUST 5, 1981
CONTRACT WITH P.N.M. CORPORATION FOR COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF
RIVERSIDE PARK - CMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT (4TH BIDDING).
RESOLUTION NO. 82-8
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $7,000 IN THE AUGSUT 5, 1981 CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
CITY OF MIAMI AND P.N.M. CORPORATION FOR THE COMPLETION OF
CONSTRUCTION OF RIVERSIDE PARK - COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
(4TH BIDDING), WITH FUNDS THEREFOR TO BE PROVIDED FROM 7TH
YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
8.3 ACCEPT COMPLETES WORK - SOLID WASTE FACILITY - SITE REDEVELOPMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 82-9
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF D.M.P. CORPORATION
FOR THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY - SITE REDEVELOPMENT AT A TOTAL
COST OF $340,494.75; AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT
IN THE NET AMOUNT OF $1,714.14; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT
OF $37,139.00.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 74 WAS WITHDRAWN.
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9. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OP VARIOUS WASTE COLLECTION LICENSES.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-10
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION
LICENSES TO GENERAL HAULING SERVICE, INC., INDUSTRIAL WASTE
SERVICE, INC., MADELU WASTE SERVICE, M & J PERROTTA WASTE
SERVICE, RAFAEL & ROBERTO TRASH SERVICE AND UNITED SANITA-
TION SERVICES, PERMITTING THEM TO COMMENCE DOING BUSINESS
UPON FULL COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 22 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA (1980).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez and Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
10. RATIFY, APPROVE PAYMENT TO LAW FIRM OF BROWN, WOOD, IVEY,
MITCHELL PND PETTY FOR LEGAL SERVICES - BONDS & S.E.C.
COMPLAINT.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-11
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING PAYMENT
IN THE AMOUNT OF $31,551.36 TO THE FIRM OF BROWN, WOOD,
IVEY, MITCHELL & PETTY FOR LEGAL SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE
CITY FROM OCTOBER, 1979, AND EXTENDING TO APRIL, 1980,
RELATED TO THE COMPLAINT FILED WITH THE SECURITIES AND
EXCHANGE COMMISSION, AND FOR LEGAL SERVICES RENDERED THE
CITY IN CONNECTION WITH THREE ISSUES OF BONDS FOR PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,150,000, WHICH WERE SOLD
IN AUGUST, 1981.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez & Mayor Maurice Ferre.
11, AMEND RES, 81-197; HECTOR, STEEL & DAVIS, SPECIAL COUNSEL
CLAIMS ARISING DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who —
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-12
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 81-197, WHICH AUTHOR-
IZED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF THE LAW
FIRA OF STEEL, HECTOR & DAVIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL REGARDING
CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY ARISING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTER-
NATIONAL CENTER BY AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL PAYMENT FOR THESE
SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 ON A RETAINER BASIS;
AUTHORIZING PAYMENT FOR THE AFORESAID SERVICES FROM FUNDS
ALLOCATED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES OF SAID CENTER CON-
STRUCTION; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT NO MONIES IN EXCESS OF
THE HEREIN AUTHORIZED SUM BE EXPENDED FOR SUCH SERVICES
UNLESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez and Mayor Maurice Ferre.
12. RETROACTIVELY AFFIRMING ACTION OF CITY MANAGER; CONTRACT
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-13
A RESOLUTION RETROACTIVELY AFFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE CITY
MANAGER IN EXECUTING THE CONTRACT (ATTACHED) BETWEEN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF VERETAN AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
AND THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000 FOR PLANNING DEPARTMENT
SERVICES IN UPDATING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN,
FUNDED THROUGH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING ACT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE 1981-1982 PROGRAM YEAR.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez and Mayor Maurice Ferre.
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13. AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: CONCESSION WITH ST. PATRICKS DAY
PARADE COMMITTEE.
NOTE: Mayor Ferre entered the meeting at this point.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-14
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A TWO-DAY
CONCESSION AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED
HERETO, WITH THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE COMMITTEE, INC.,
FOR CONCESSION ACTIVITY AT BAYFRONT PARK, MARCH 13 AND 14, 1982,
DURING THE SCHEDULED ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE AND CELEBRATION
AT SAID PARK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Mayor Ferre, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez.
14. PLAQUES, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
1. Presentation of Proclamation to Emilio Milan
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-15
A MOTION TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE THE AWARD OF A PROCLAMATION
HONORING EMILIO MILAN FOR HIS COURAGE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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2. Presentation of Commendation to the outstanding officers of the month
of October, 1981, Officers Raymond Martinez and Steve Rossbach.
3. Presentation of Commendation to the outstanding officer for the month
of November, 1981, Officer Diosdado Diaz.
9. Motion of condolences to the family of Garth Reeves, Jr.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-16
A MOTION EXPRESSING THE SINCERE CONDOLENCES OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI AND OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS TO THE FAMILY OF GARTH
REEVES DUE TO THE UNTIMELY PASSING AWAY OF HIS SON, GARTH
REEVES, JR.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
5. Motion of condolences to the family of Irwin Christie.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-17
A MOTION EXPRESSING THE SINCERE CONDOLENCES OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI AND OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS TO THE FAMILY OF IRWIN
CHRISTIE ON THE SAD OCCASION OF HIS PASSING AWAY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
6. Proclai-n Friday, January 15, 1982 as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day
and commemorating his birthday.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-18
A MOTION HONORING AND COMMEMORATING THE MEMORY OF DR. MARTI14
LUTHER KING, JR. ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS BIRTHDAY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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Presentation of Commendation to La Liga de Softball de Cuba Libre for
its promotion of softball in Miami and proclaiming December 11, 1981
Dia de la Federacion de Softball
�de Cuba Libre.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 3 WAS WITHDRAWN.
15. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL: GARDEN HIGIfIAY IMPROVEMENT H-4374.
Mayor Ferre asked if there were any objectors to Item #4. NO OBJECTORS
APPEARED.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-19
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT IN GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT H-4374; AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR THIS
IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTIFIED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
16. DISCUSSION ITEM: BOAT SALES AT THE NEW WORLD MARINA
(MIAMARINA).
Mayor Ferre: Boat sales at the New World Center Marina. That should be a
relatively quick item, shouldn't it? Howard, what is the problem on that,
any problem?
Mr. Gary: It needs Commission approval.
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to Item G?
Mr. Dawkins: I second for the purpose of discussion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, under discussion.
Mr. Dawkins: To me, this is another one of the sweetheart deals and I just
want to go on record as saying that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me now, because then obviously you know something
that I don't, Miller, because I went through this arrangement and this arrange-
ment I think is a fair situation because what we are getting back is the same
percentage of revenue that we would on dock space. This is called for in the
lease, and if there is something that you know about it that I don't, I woulc
appreciate you putting it on the record. I don't know how you can do it any
other way except that they get on the gross sales, they've guaranteed a min-
imum of $50,000 up front. My only concern in this thing was, in fact, the
Charter amendments which neither one apply and I personally felt that it was
a fair return as to the City's percentages that applies to they primary lessee
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, Mr. Plummer, I have here the management agreement and it
says that, the part that I have trouble with is that it says, New World,
during the term of the agreement, all of the following items shall be deducted
from gross dockage receipts and that's all taxes, utility charges, utility,
telephone, sewage, waste, the utility authorities which are the responsibil-
ity of New World to collect, and then it goes over to the next page and it
says, Payment of Utilities and I just feel that we are paying for services
subsidizing their operation, that's just my personal opinion.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Miller, we are not voting on the lease for New World
Marina, this is a sub -lease of Christ Craft Boat Company as a part of that
operation.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but his point is still valid.
Mr. Plummer: •Well, what he is saying is the sweetheart deal was the New
World Marina.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Mr. Plummer: This is not what we're voting on. I think that which we are
as a sub -lease to them and I think that the return on this is very fair to
the City.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I don't, you know.
Mayor Ferre: I might just add that also I think that bringing Chris Craft
to the downtown area is a tremendous plus for the general downtown area and
the City of Miami and for the boating industry and the marine world as a
total. Now, I think that Commissioner Dawkins has expressed his opinion
and we have to respect his opinion, he is entitled, of course, to his opin-
ion and we're entitled to our's individually. Now, this is a matter that
has been done and it was voted upon, we went through the public process, we
went through the whole thing, this thing took years and years of arguing
to finalize, it has been finalized, the marina has been managed by the pri-
vate sector, and every report that I get is that there is a significant
improvement in the services that have been rendered and that the tenants
are much happier, the marina is being run much better and the City of Miami
is getting a much better return than obviously it got before. Now, whether
or not it could have gotten a higher return ever, is something that, of
course, who can argue that, that could be. Now, Commissioner Carollo would
like to make a statement, but we must move along. We'll wait for him, but
tell him we're waiting. He sent his assistant in to make sure that before
we voted that he wanted to make a statement into the record and I think we
owe him that. If he hadn't sent word to us we would have voted on it but
since he did... All right, Commissioner Carollo, we have waited until you
returned and we're getting ready to vote on Item G. You wanted to make a
statement.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, my concern, and I don't know how much has been
talked about when I wasn't here, was the information that I have received
on the type of lease that we signed with the people that are holding this
contract. If the information that I have been given is anywhere near accur-
ate, we signed a pretty lousy lease with these people. What I would like
to do is get some explanation from the Manager.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: First of all, with regard to the lease, obviously we have been
going through this lease for two or three years and my estimation in terms
of whether we get a fair return on the lease, obviously the appraiser says
we get a fair return. I think the issue is whether we can get a better
return or whether they run it or whether we run it and I conclude that we
can. The issue now is that we have a four year lease with a four year op-
tion which is a binding contract and obviously we cannot get out of that
and I'm not probably going to be around in eight years when we have the
option, but I would....
Mr. Carollo: You never know, Howard, you never know.
Mayor Ferre: Look at me, I've made it eight years. There are some people
that wouldn't have bet on that.
Mr. Gary: I would suggest certain changes to that lease which would
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include a greater percentage coming to the City as opposed to the 75/25
split particularly in view of the fact that the business side of it doesn't
have to put upo any substantial capital, we have to do the maintenance, and
particularly in view of the fact that certain costs are excluded from any
returns to the City. so I would recommend, and probably my predecessor or
someone that comes after me that we get a better arrangement than we have
now because I don't think we really are getting the type of return that we
can get.
Mayor Ferre: Are you talking about with Chris Craft?
Mr. Gary: No, we're talking about the lease which is what he was talking
about.
Mayor Ferre: No, we have an item before us...
Mr. Gary: Mr: Mayor, I was responding to what he was asking which was the
lease.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I made a question, Mr. Mayor, that I wanted to know on
the original lease that we have for this, what kind of a return are we
getting. Are we getting a good return, are we not or what situation are
we being faced with?
Me. Plummer: Joe, let me tell you which is a ha-ha. It was said by even
the worst opponents....
Mr. Carollo: J. L., before you give me the ha-ha bit, I would apprecip,ce
it if the Manager gives me the bottom line of what I'm asking for.
Mr. Plummer: I shall wait. r
Mr. Carollo: Thank you.
Mr. Gary: In conclusion, Vice -Mayor Carollo, as I said before, I think we
could have gotten a better return even though we are getting a fair return
according to the process and the appraiser's analysis of it. It would ap-
pear that at this time, that you as the City Commission could possibly use
the Chris Craft operation or the proposal as a leverage for any concessions
you may want them to give up on the other parts of the lease. Now, that is
a legal issue that obviously has to be addressed by the City Attorney.
Mr. Carollo: In your estimation, how much more can we be getting if we
would have had the right type of contract?
Mr. Gary: Well, the initial analysis was done when I immediately took over
office, that with our current staff and the old rates that we would have
made a very small profit. However, if you recall, the City Commission ap-
proved new rates which obviously would have allowed us to make a greater
profit even if we had maintained our own staff there. But obviously this
is hindsight for the mere fact that at that time when it was being consid-
ered the new rates were not anticipated and we were not making a surplus in
operation out there.
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely they were anticipated and they are a part of the
thing that we voted on.
Mr. Gary: I may want to refute that, but I will take your word for it
right now.
Mayor Ferre: Two members of this Commission of the five that are here
were present at that time when this matter was voted on. The contract very
specifically deals with how rates are increased. It was obvious to all of
us, I think, when we voted on it, that there would be an increase of rates.
Now, I don't understand what that means.
Mr. Gary: Obviously, if you read the contract, the contract addresses how
rates will be increased and what I'm saying, I'm not saying how rates will
be increased but I'm saying that approximately a year ago the City Commis-
sion six months ago anticipated increasing rates at Dinner Key and Miamarina
and I'm saying because of those increases it is based on the cost of operat-
ing that facility which means that if we had a $10,000,000 facility out
there the rates would generate enough revenues to offset the $10,000,000.
Obviously, anybody could run a business if you can automatically increase
your rates to equal your expenses.
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Mayor Ferre: That's assuming that the rates are fully kept by the Manager.
Mr. Gary: By the what?
Mayor Ferre: By the manager, the people who have the contract. They don't
own the facility, we own the facility. What they're doing is managing. Now,
when the rates increase, do they keep the full extent of the rate increase?
Mr. Gary: This is not a management, in my estimation, that's close to Biscayne
Recreation.
Mayor Ferre: well what is it?
Mr. Gary: It's a lease. You have a pure lease with them. You're leasing
out your facilities there.
Mayor Ferre: when the rates are increased don't we get the majority of the
rate.increase?.
Mr. Gary: You get the same 75/25 split that you're getting ordinarily. Any-
thing that he adds, for example, on Chris Craft, you get 75/25....
Mayor Ferre: But that's not the point?
Mr. Gary: No, it's not the point I was trying to make to you. The point I
was trying to make to you is that you had agreed to increase the rates to
equal the cost of running the facility regardless of what the cost is and
I'm saying with any kind of business venture where the revenues can automatic-
ally increase to equal expenditures, the cost could have been $10,000,000 and
you still could have increased the rates by $10,000,000. I'm just saying in
the future you need to look at the 75/25 split in terms of whether if we main-
tain it or operate it whether we get the same 75% and keep it in our pocket
as opposed to giving it to somebody else.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, I'll tell you what I would like to have before I
vote on this is a study and recommendation from you as to how much could the
City have been making in addition to what we're making now if we would have
kept Miamarina ourselves and have ran it ourselves. At the same time, and
after you give us that report, a recommendation from you as to how you feel
we could work out any additional benefits to the City in using this item
that is before us now as leverage, if we could at all. I would really like
to see in black and white some figures on this whole thing here.
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Let's make sure, Mr. Manager, we revisit the whole issue. The
issue, Mr. Manager, is whether or not the City of Miami as a governmental
entity should be involved in building and operating marine facilities. As
you recall, and at that time, Commissioner Carollo was not a member, Commis-
sioner Dawkins and Commissioner Perez were not members of this Commission.
We spent literally two years, maybe three, debating the issue as to whether
or not the City was better served in running these marinas or getting out-
side managers to run the marinas the way it is done in California. Now,
in California, the City of Los Angeles, Long Beach or what have you do not
own these marinas, they - and I see Stuart Sorg here, Stuart Sorg was one
of the people that went to California and many others went to California to
see why California was the number one marina area in the United States and
why we weren't further along in Florida than they are in California. The
conclusion was that in California, for example, take Long Beach, there were
16,000 slips in little Long Beach which is more than there are in all of
Dade County. And the reason why Long Beach had so many marine slips was
because Long Beach like every other city in California did not get involved
in the marina business, it let the private sector do that. So based on all
of that, we concluded that we could probably build more marinas here if we
could get the private sector to become involved in this process. Now, if
we're going to go back and start questioning that particular item I think
we've got to question the whole premise again because obviously the Miami
Herald and the Miami hews and the other media around here have decided over
the years that the City should not lease any of these properties or let
anybody manage it. Now, the City of Miami had a marina operation, with all
due respects to Bob Jennings and all the other people that were involved in
it, that was a monstrosity. We never repaired anything, the service was
terrible, it was a sloppy operation, the employees were all protected by
Civil Service, we couldn't fire anybody, nobody could get anything done,
they'd say they would do it, repair a dock or an electrical problem in a
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month and it would take three years to get something repaired, on and on
and on. So we decided that yes, we would run the Police Department and
yes, we would run the Fire Department and yes, we would run our parks
but no, we would not run our marinas because the private sector could do
a better job of running these marinas because of all of these constraints
and that's the way they do it in Oregon and California and in Texas and
wherever they have marinas. So that is the background of all of this.
Now, this is a new Commission and I think if we are going to revisit this
issue I think we should revisit all of the issues, the whole thing all over
again and let's have a big open discussion on this thing as to whether or
not the City of Miami should go back to the marina business.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I was just bringing out the issues as re-
lates to the lease as directed me by the City Commission. I think the is-
sue still remains as to whether or not legally, because we have a binding
contract, whether or not we can prohibit them to develop at the marinas.
I think in all fairness to the firm that has the lease, we must understand
that we have a requirement in that lease that they develop the marinas. So
if you decide, if it is legal first of all, that we can withhold them from
doing this that we also have to give them credit in terms of their evaluat-
ion in terms of not doing it pursuant to the contract. You can't have it
both ways. So those issues have to be addressed so that the City Commission
will know up front whether or not they're making a proper decision. I think
the Law Department has to determine whether or not we can withhold this right
(1) and (2), if we can withhold the right and the City Commission so desires,
whether or not we have to give them a grace period or credit for proceding
to do this and not evaluate them negatively for not having done it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, where do we stand on this then, George?
Mr. Knox: The agreement does provide that the lessee shall develop the
marina. The agreement also provides that development activities have to be,
after obtaining prior approval of the. City Commission and in addition that
this approval shall not be unreasonably withheld. That is precisely what the agreement says, such that if a decision is made by the Manager or the
City Commission as appropriate to impair the ability to develop the marinas
then the reason for denying them that opportunity cannot be one that would
be determined to be unreasonable. -
Mayor Ferre: Well, then what does that mean in English? Does that mean
that we can or we can't?
Mr. Knox: That means that if you do the record should reflect an articula-
tion of the reasons why so that if there is a court review the court can
determine whether or not the Commission has acted unreasonably or capriciously.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now, one of the members of the Commission has asked
the Manager to review the whole issue. Is that unreasonable? It doesn't
seem unreasonable to me.
Mr. Knox: No, that would not be determined to be unreasonable, and based
upon that evaluation the City Commission could very easily conclude that it
should not permit the lessee to engage in the kinds of development activities
that the contract calls for.
Mayor Ferre: So I think what we need then, as I understand it, is the with-
drawal of the previous motion that was made and a motion to continue this
item until we have a report from the Manager.
Mr. Carollo: That would be fine, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have any problem with that?
Mr. Dawkins: The only problem I have is that Chris Craft has come to us in
good faith and they, I mean I do not feel that Chris Craft should be penal-
ized for my dissatisfaction with the sweetheart and that's my opinion, what
I call a sweetheart deal with the other people. And we are trying our
damndest to improve the image of Miami. And with that in mind, I would,
although I'm against it in principle, go along with the idea not to penal-
ize Chris Craft.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Mr. Mayor, I understand what your feelings are, I share
the same feeling of concern, I don't think that by us waiting to the next
Commission Meeting should this jeopardize any of the arrangements that Mr.
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Post might have with that firm and I think the Manager should have plenty
of time to give us a report back. I, however, do not want to have to vote
in the negative now against Mr. Post and his firm until I have that inform-
ation. I think it would help me greatly in deciding which way to go.
Mayor Ferre: Tom, do you want to address the issue or not?
Mr. Gary: No, Mr. Mayor, if I can before. In view of some of the concerns
that some of the City Commissioners raised to me, the report that Commis-
sioner Carollo is asking for, I had my staff to begin to work on it and we
now have - I haven't had a chance to fully review it, but we now have a
report which is about three pages and I would be happy to give that to the
City Commission. I just wanted to let you know that I have the report.
Mayor Ferre: And what is the conclusion of the report?
Mr. Gary: Let me just look at it.
Mr. Tom Post: Mr. Mayor, if I could. Very briefly, you're really raising
two issues here, one is the essential contract which this Commission reviewed
for three years and went through appraisals and everybody reviewed and sug-
gested. I want to point out to you that I wouldn't be here today and Chris
Craft wouldn't be here today coming to Miami but for that contract because
one of the things that you asked us to do with that marina was to make it a
full service marina. That marina had lost a substantial amount of money for
the City in the previous years, in fact, you had to borrow a hundred and some
thousand dollars to replace a pier there a year ago from Dinner Key Funds.
Now, in that three year course of time I saw so many figures on funding and
dollars coming from here and the value of what was being paid out, it was
really impossible for anybody to tell what the City was making or losing at _
Miamarina but it was clear that they were losing because of the condition
of the marina, the condition of the boating community because the marina was
not being utilized and because the tenants were up in arms. What we have
been able to do, irrespective of all of that was take that situation and
turn it around and to bring to you today, as we are, a company of the stat-
ure of Chris Craft to come to the City with the understanding that they are
going to provide an additional facility at the marina, going to help in
national publicity for the facility, is something that you would not have
but for our efforts and that was one of the things that the Commission told
us was the basis for the contract - you go out there and work your tail
off, New World Marinas, and try to develop this into something that the com-
munity can be proud of and that is what we have attempted to do and we're
bringing to you one of the finest companies anywhere in the world at your
doorstep, who have indicated that they will make every attempt to utilize
that marina to show the City of Miami as a backdrop for their boats in —
their national publications.....
Mayor Ferre: Tom, nobody is arguing with that, I think the only request,
and perhaps you might answer it and we can get on with this thing is whether
or not the Commissioner's request that this item be delayed until February
llth which is the next meeting will do you irreperable harm.
Mr. Post: Yes, sir, it will. Very simply because the Chris Craft people
have their boats here, they have to credit those boats, they pay a banker
and they pay interest. They have a contractor who they've paid, we have
done all of this with the City's staff for three months and today is the
first time I find out about it.
Major Ferre: Well, they're the ones that are pulling the rug on you.
Mr. Post: I realize that, I see that. I see that. Okay?
Mr. Dawkins: They're not holding the rugs because I think Mr. Gary did
right because I would be just as mad now had it been approved as I am if
he is bringing it to me now. So dpn't feel that nobody is pulling the
ruq.
Mayor Ferre: We could have told him yesterday.
Mr. Post: I understand what you're saying.
Mr. Dawkins: He did know yesterday, he was in my office yesterday.
Mr. Post: That's correct. What I'm saying is we've been working with the
City's staff for three months on this eement....
Mayor Ferre: So the record will reflect, because I know that you, perhaps
were not listening on this thing, I didn't say that you pulled the rug on
him, I said that this memorandum that the Manager is now floating out on
top of the table pulls the rug under Tom Post and Chris Craft and I'm say-
ing that that is something that they should have been notified about before
this matter comes to a head and I want to hear from the Chris Craft people.
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to hear from the Manager. Now, unless, Maurice, you
have seen this memo, I haven't, I don't know what it says.
Mayor Ferre: I assume that that's why he is bringing up this discussion
that this is such a bad deal is that he has a memorandum that says that
this is a bad deal.
Mr. Gary: No, let me speak for myself. First of all, this memorandum was
prepared, it is dated January 14th, it was prepared in response to questions
that members of this City Commission have asked me that I was not in a posi-
tion to respond to. It is just an informational memorandum, it was not in-
tended to pull the rug, but a response to a request by this City Commission.
Now, why he is not aware of it, first of all, I don't work for him, I work
for this City Commission and that is why I did not provide it to him.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you haven't provided it to us either which we would
like to get a copy of....
Mr. Gary: Well, I was just trying to let you know that I had begun the
process in response to Commissioner Carollo.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what is the conclusion of the memorandum, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: The conclusion of the report, based on the new rates that are
now in force now in Miamarina is that if the City had maintained that
facility with its existing personnel we would have made a surplus of
$522,000.
Mayor Ferre: And how much are we going to make now?
Mr. Gary: What we're going to make now, at worst, is $81,000 or at best
$123,000 according to this report.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. Why don't you conclude.
Mr. Post: If I can address the problem. One is the Chris Craft situation,
and you asked me what was the problem with any delay on the Chris Craft sit-
uation, let me go ahead and finish that and I'll come back to this other
issue. The problem is (1) The Building Permit has been issued, the Chris
Craft people are here and want to proceed, they have already paid a con-
tractor to get started on that. (2) The boats are here and they've got
financing of those boats and the interest on those boats is substantial.
(3) We may lose Chris Craft if we don't proceed. Now, on the issue of the
memo of the 14th which is today, I have not seen that but what I can tell
you that I have seen is numerous memos relating to financing throughout the
various years that we've been dealing with this problem. It is difficult
for me to comment on something that I haven't seen, but I can tell you this,
positively without any question whatsoever, all you have to do is to think
back to last year when Miamarina was going broke, when they had to borrow
money from Dinner Key to operate it and when the whole marina situation was
in chaos. And we've come through and we're producing money for the City
and we've developing the marina and we're bringing business into the City
and you sat here this morning looking at services that you are concerned
about, the funds that we will bring in will be additional services to the
City. Now, we've done what you asked us to do when we signed that contract
agreement. We have gone out and we have worked very very diligently to
develop the marinas and Mr. Knox is correct, you asked us to make them into
a full service marina and you asked us in connections with any concessionaires
to let the City Manager approve the concessionaire and that approval should
not be unreasonably withheld. Well, you have put the Chris Craft people
into a position where we're coming in here with one of the finest companies
in the world who have expended substantial funds in planning, preparation,
review, time, effort, materials, lined up banks, have already obtained the
bond, obtained their insurance, obtained everything that they needed and
they did it with the full, if I'm not incorrect at all, Mr. Gary, but with
the full assitance of the City staff, we have met, we have reviewed these
things, it was indicated to us all along the way that this was a fine company
and that these people should be brought in and, you know, they are going to
substantially be hurt if this thing is not resolved today, we're going to
lose them. jQ
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Post, the only thing I want the records to reflect, and
that the citizens of Miami realize is that in the event that Chris Craft
sells $10,000,000 worth of boats over the next eight years of your contract,
you and your company will receive 7.5 million dollars and the City of Miami,
of that contract alone irregardless of whatever else your company makes,
will receive 2.5 million. That's the only thing I want the citizens to
understand.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, because I think the figures on this are....
If Chris Craft sells a $100,000 boat, I think Chris Craft expects to be paid
something out of that....
Mr. Dawkins: No, I said his company. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, I said that if
Chris Craft paid the development company or whatever this marina is, I did
not say what Chris Craft's net was.
Mayor Ferre: well, how much will Chris Craft be paying the company as a
percentage of'a sale if they sell $100,000?
Mr. Post: Chris Craft has guaranteed to pay at least $50,000 worth of com-
missions to New World Marinas.....
Mayor Ferre: $50,000 worth of commissions for one boat, for one hundred
boats?
Mr. Post: No, sir, for a year.
Mayor Ferre: Minimum. Now, look, Tom, would you please let me run the meet-
ing by answering questions rather than going on tangents? I know that you're
nervous and I know this is important to you but would you please just listen
for a moment?
Mr. Post: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Now, the question I'm asking you is, so I can get it clear in
my head, is the $50,000 is the minimum, what percentage of the total will
Chris Craft be paying the company? Is it 1%, 10%, 2t? What percentage?
Mr. Post: Well, first of all, I'd like to give you a copy of the letter
that sets it out very specifically.
Mayor Ferre: Just answer the question.
Mr. Post: I'm not sure I understood your question, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: What is the commissions that they are paying for them selling
boats?
Mr. Post: They're going to pay 2.5% of all gross receipts in excess of
a million dollars.
Mayor Ferre: That's all I want to know.
Mr. Post: And it is a floating scale up from there.
Mayor Ferre: Up to what?
Mr. Post: Up to 5% over $5,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: So for somebody to make $10,000,000 in this thing they would
have to sell $400,000,000 or $500,000,000 worth...
Mr. Post: More than that.
Mayor Ferre: A billion dollars worth of yachts to be able to get 2 to 5%,
so in other words it isn't something in that magnitude.
Mr. Post: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: I just wanted to get that clear because I wasn't quite sure
that we were talking about figures of that sort.
Mr. Post: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: How much does the City receive and how much does your company?
Mr. Post: The City receives 25% of any concessionaire receipt that we receive.
And you all may recall that when they reviewed these they looked at marina
operations all around the world and the normal range was 20• and we pay 25%
and we're going out and expending all our efforts to go out and get there people
and bring them in here and do all these other things that are necessary to
bring these Ether concessions in here in order to bring some more money in
in order to get the City some more funds.
Mayor Ferre: Could we hear from Chris Craft?
Mr. Post: Yes, sir. This is Walter Schumacker. Mr. Schumacker is one of
the four national owners of the entire Chris Craft Corporation.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Schumacker, please understand that this has
nothing to do with you or your corporation of Chris Craft, this has to do
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Mayor Ferre: (con't) the policy question with regard to how the City oper-
ates has nothing to do with Chris Craft. Now, the statement has been made,
the motion was made by Plummer, seconded by Dawkins. Dawkins then said
that he thought, - it had nothing to do with Chris Craft - but he thought
that this was not a good deal for the City and he just wanted to record
that as a matter of principle, but he later declared that he was ready to
vote on it. because he didn't want to hurt Chris Craft. Commissioner
Carollo, who was out of the room came back, because he wanted to make a
statement and he wants this whole thing revisited and that we vote on it
February llth. I think that is a reasonable request on the Commissioner's
part. The question is, will it do irreparable harm to Chirs Craft?
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, excuse me - I said at the next meeting, which is
the 28th, two weeks from now.
Mayor Ferre:' That is not a regular - that is a zoning meeting..
Mr. Carollo: It would be the llth then?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Post: Mr. Mayor and Mr. Commissioners...
Mayor Ferre: The question then, Post says "yes, it will do irreparable harm
and that is what we want you to address.
Mr. Schumacher: I would like to make some comments on that and I would very much
appreciate if you could make a vote today on the basic issue and our corpora-
tion entered into an agreement several months ago with New World Marina and
our legal staff reviewed the proposed agreement with New World and the City of
Miami which called for any sub -lease or any concessionaire approval only re-
quiring the City Manager of Miami's approval, which we have obtained from
the City Manager, and he had indicated to us that he wanted concurrence of
this decision by the City Commission, for which we are here today. Now dur-
ing our staff's meeting with the staff of the City, we have obtained a build-
ing permit for our office; we have put a substantial down payment over one-
third the price of the construction of the office. We have had $1,000,000
worth of inventory boats moved into the Miami area to go into the locations
which we have leased and we have entered everything in good faith, hoping
for a start approximately January 1st. It was only shortly before New Years
that we realized that the City Manager was requiring concurrence from the
City Commission of his favorable acceptance of our concessionaire and sub-
lease with New World Marina. So we are right now in a position that we have
employees hired; we have boats in inventory which we are paying interest
charges on since before Christmas. We have a contractor hired and we have
an organization complete and ready to go and another delay is going to cost
us irrevocable harm in starting a new corporation which is called Skies Dell
Marine. and we feel basically that Mr. Post is doing what his four year lease
with the New World Marina has with the City. He is acting in good faith and
we are too.
Mayor Ferre. Mr. Manager, have you approved this item?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, when the idea came to me from Mr. Tom Post, I told Mr.
Tom Post that it was a good idea, but because of the magnitude of the pro-
ject I would not give him permission even though the lease says that the City
Manager has that authority, and I thought it was important that the City
Commission review the plans and that the City Commission make the decision.
Mr. Carollo: What is your recommendation, Howard?
Mr. Gary: I think it is a good idea. I think they should be allowed to con-
struct it, and the problem is like I said before, I think we had a bad lease
which we signed now.
Mayor Ferre. What do you wagt to do?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I suggest that this is the type of thing that in a
contract as written, that no action on the part of this Commission today
says we have no objection and the man can do what he wants. He has already
Id told us he is going to approve it.
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Mr. Carollo: Well, Howard, if you are in favor of it all, what is the use of
going through this whole you know, shannanigans here. I mean, I know Tom has
been giving us song and dance here how important it is for this, for that, but
let's not kid ourselves, but bottom line is it is important for Tom and his
corporation, because they are going to make good profit on it, and that is where
it lies. I just want to see just how much profit are they making compared to
what we could have been making and we are making now?
Mr. Gary: This lease, as well as other leases, and you will find them all
through -out the Cable T,V „ there are certain authorities that the City Com-
mission gives the City Manager, unilaterally. Then my position. that if it is
controversial in nature or substantial in nature, that the City Commission
should have a sign -off without me signing it unilaterally. Now, what I informed
them was that I thought it was a good idea, but it should come before the City
Commission and while we were going through this process, the issue of how much
the City would get out of it came about, and as a result of those questions, I
began to have my staff to do the report, and the report was to reveal whether
or not - and it has nothing to do with Chris Craft - whether or not the lease
that we have now, whether the City is getting a fair share or can get a better
share.
Mr. Carollo: Well, let me make my position clear regardless of what decision
you have made. I want that report.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I think where we are is this. Let me see if I understand
this properly. This is not different from how we deal with the Law Department.
The Law Department has certain authorities that are automatic, like for example,
when an issue is lost at a lower court, they automatically are under instructions
to appeal it. Now, usually, because of the magnitude of an issue, the City
Attorney b7ings it to the Commission and informs the Commission. If the Com-
mission...che Commission can do one of three things. Tell them not to appeal it
and drop it; in other words, stop the normal process. No. 2, it can approve it
and say 'go appeal it", or it can do nothing, and that means he continues his
normal course, which is to appeal it. Now, this is the identical case. This
Commission can do one of three things. It can tell you not to do it, after
you have informed us that you have. It can instruct you to do it, or it can
Just be mute on the point which is an implication that you continue on your
normal course. We have been informed; you go do your job.
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my motion.
Mr. Dawkins: I withdraw my second.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, at this point there is no motion or second and the Com-
mission I assume is going to remain mute on this point, however, you have been
instructed by a Commissioner to fully inform him and make a report and I would
expect that you would do that. Alright now, we are now moving along to the next
item. —
Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait. Now, it is my understanding that Commissioner Carollo
is asking and directing the Manager to revisit the lease.
Mayor Ferre: No. I don't think he has the authority unilaterally to do that.
He wants a report to him about the whole issue.
Mr. Plummer. Okay. Then, are we to assume, Mr. Mayor that since this, by the
worst opponent, was said to be a 20% better lease than the one existing in
the rear here, that that one is also going to be re -visited because they were
all done at the same time.
Mayor Ferre: You can ask the Manager to do that, just like Commissioner Carollo
can.
Mr. Plummer. The downtown was supposed to be so much better a lease than the
Dinner Key, so I think since we are questioning the one downtown, we then must
definitely question
Mayor Ferre. Further discussion? Alright we now move along to the next item.
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17. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: PHIL HAMMERSMITH REGARDING CITY REGARDING
CITY COOPERATION WITH THE FILM INDUSTRY.
We are now on Item 6 which is Phil Hammersmith. Mr. Hammersmith.
Mr. Hammersmith: Philip Hammersmith. I live at 3943 Segovia Street, Coral
Gables. What I am here today before this Commission is to more or less
preventative measures, or preventative medicine and the problem arose in
the ... within the Administration of the City of Miami. We had an incident
about two weeks ago concerning Allstate Company which had come down here to
film, wished to film in the Dinner Key Auditorium through Mary Lee Lander
who is here as the Dade County Film Coordinator. We attempted to resolve
the matter through Administrative Relief and Mr. Young in the Dinner Key
Auditorium Department and Mr. Cesar Odio. During the conversation with Mary
Lee Lander, they informed her that the fee for the Dinner Key Auditorium
could not be waived and they quoted a fee which was absurd and just a ridicu-
lous fee. If you have the material in front of you on this, you can see the
article in the Miami News which clearly summarizes the entire incident. Now,
what I would like to do here today is to ask this Commission in some way, what-
ever is appropriate manner, to reiterate the policy that the Commission has al-
ready voted on two times before, and in fact, the Commission has passed an ordi-
nance, speaking to this kind of issue. Mr. Odio.....
Mayor Ferre: We have been through this a whole bunch of times.
Mr. Hammersmith: I know, Mayor, and what I am asking here today is for the
City of Miami Commission to inform the Administration what the policy is, or
we are going to back here every single time.
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely not: We are on record as to what our .... I mean ... you
know when a law is passed by Congress, the Administration has to follow that
law. Now, the fact that Congress repeats the law doesn't make the Administra-
tion more aware of it. I mean, this is unbelievable. If we are on record as
to taking a position and that that is the policy, the fact that we vote on it
twice doesn't make the policy any stronger. It is the policy of this Commis-
sion to do anything and everything to get the film industry into Dade County.
Now, we went through this thing after Black Sunday; we had a big hassle over
this thing, we had a big fight with Paul Andrews and I think Vince, weren't
you involved in it? And we came back, and we set the policy so that we could
have better cooperation with the film industry in the future and so on and so
on. Now, what is this all about?
Mr. Hammersmith: Well, apparently the Administration had not heard the Commis-
sion, because the Administration, through Mr. Odio, quoted a fee for the use of
the Dinner Key Auditorium, of which the ordinance that this Commission has
passed saying that the fees can be waived and also there was no conflict, because
there was no use of that auditorium on that day. The position that the City has
been following was any film making activity in this City pays its cost so that
the taxpapers of the City of Miami are not burdened with that cost, but no fee
should be charged. I am only here to bring this to the attention of the Commi-
ssion and in fact, you have summarized it Mayor, that the Administration is not,
in this case, did not follow the policy of the Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Yes but it may be a very innocent mistake, because I am just reading
this whole thing and it says: "We went by the ordinance, said Odio. We didn't
have the rights to change the rates". That is absolutely not so.
Mr. Hammersmith: The ordinance says that the Administration may waive any fee
at all, if you look at the ordinance which is before you, which is the one that
was passed. It says that this Administration can waive any fee at all.
Mayor Ferre: Are you talking about this January 4, 19.......
Mr. Hammersmith: Yes sir.
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Ms. Lander: This is Mary Lee Lander, I work for Metro -Dade County with offices
at 140 West Flagler Street. The ordinance that we were being quoted which re-
sulted in a request for a $6,000 fee for one day's worth of filming was an ordi-
nance that related to the use of the auditorium for exhibition, which is a mat-
ter that is totally different from the filming of commercials on a day when
that has not been booked. When I discussed with Mr. Odio the fact that there
was another ordinance that applied to filming and brought that to the attention
of Mr. Young, Paul Young and Mr. Cesar Odio, they refused to even consider the
matter of treating a commercial as something other than a commercial exhibition
which it absolutely is not.
Mayor Ferre: Well, didn't you tell them that there was an ordinance on the books?
Ms. Lander: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre:, Mr. Odio...
Ms. Lander: 'But they insisted that they hear from the Commission before they
change.
Mayor Ferre: Let's give Mr. Odio an opportunity..there may be a perfectly logical
reason for all this.
Mr. Odio: Did you talk to me?
Ms. Lander: Yes, I did sir, over the phone.
Mr. Odio: At no time did this ordinance that you are talking about now come
up in that conversation. When you called me, I told you that we had a rate
ordinance for the Exhibition Center; that I would appreciate it if you would
talk to the Manager of the Center and that he would have to go by that ordi-
nance and that I had no right to change the rate of the Center unless the City
Commission approve it.
Ms. Lander: But I countered with the....
Mr. Hammersmith: Mr. Mayor, this is an example of why I am here today!
Mr. Gary. Let the staff finisr first, Administration, please, Mr. Mayor, if I
bring to your attention, this City Commission went on record informing the
City Manager that under no circumstances were we to waive fees for any facil-
ity in the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Look, I think the man is..well he has a good out, and I will tell
you what his "out" is. At that point, this subject was never discussed. The
fact is that this City has gone on record on more than one occasion that anything
that we can do to bring in the film industry, we are going to do. I think that
it was a natural inadvertent mistake. I understand the Manager's confusion on
this. It seems to me that if Broward County could do what it did, we certainly
could have done the same thing and we should have pursued it a little bit more
emphatically, because we go out of our way to bring A.S.T.A_ conventions here; we
go out of our way to give the Irish $15,000 for their parade and we go out of
our way to give the Sons of Italy money which we do to help them have their
Italian Festival. We give money. I don-t know, right off the top of my head,
but we give everybody money for all these things to help these people do all
these things. Certainly something that would bring a major film to Miami,
something that we ought to .......
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, if I may, just for the record...they were informed that
was the policy. They were informed also that they had to come to the City
Commission to get a waiver. because that was also the policy, and the third
thing, my staff has told me that they wanted to set a fire inside the auditor-
ium, which the Fire Department had problems with, so...
Mr. Hammersmith: That is not true, Mr. Mayor. That is just not true.
Mr. Gary. I am telling you what the staff told me, okay?
Mr. Hammersmith. I am telling you what the Fire Department told us.
Mr. Gary. I am telling you what the staff told me.
Mr. Hammersmith: Your staff lied to you.
Mr. Gary: I have more confidence in them.
Mr. Hammersmith. Well, I don't.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's not get into that unless it is germaine to the point.
Mr. Hammersmith: It is. We are here today and you seeing an example of the
same kind of problem, because right at this moment I do not know, nor does any-
one else in this room what is the policy of the City of Miami in relation to
getting fees to filming commercials in City property. You are saying that we
have to come before the Commission on each and every time that any commercial
wants to come in here? The reason they went to Broward, Mr. Mayor, was because'
they could not wait for an answer, and went into Broward and spent there money
there, and this is going to happen repeatedly. We have already had a couple
of requests 'from IBM to come down here to shoot a commercial and they are going
to want to use City facilities. We would just like a clarification of what is
the policy for the film industry.
Mr. Odio. Mr. Mayor, may I say something?
Mayor Ferre: Yes sir.
Mr. Odio: I think that you are getting the impression from these people that
this Administration doesn't cooperate with the film industry. Mary Lee Lan-
ders has called me repeatedly, time and time again, in spite of the process
from the commercial area in the Commodore Plaza you have filmed repeatedly
many, many advertisement films, or whatever. Right? So I don't think that
you can claim that we have not cooperated with you in the past. That is
what I am trying to get at, right?
Mayor Ferre. She didn't say that.
Mr. Odio: Well, I think she tried to imply, but on this case, we need a policy
from the City Commission telling us that we have the right to waive fees for
commercial films.
Mr. Hammersmith: Well then we agree Mr. Odio. I came to ask the Commission to
give us a policy so we know what to do.
Mr. Odio. That is all I asked you to do at that time.
Mr. Hammersmith: Well, we agree with you; we finally made an agreement.
Mayor Ferre: I think the point in all this is, that unfortunately, Mr. Odio
and Mr. Howard Gary and others were not here, Phil, in Miami when we went through the
same indentical situation. Now, I think out of respect for them, I think
that it was a natural mistake that was made since the Commission has gone on
record that there will be no waiver of any fees. Now, it is also on the other
hand, also true that this Commission has violated that within minutes, if not
hours from the day of passing that, because Miller Dawkins pulled on my side
the last time we violated and he said "You are violating the the rules we
passed". And I said, " Well, what do you want to do?" I said "we have to do
it." So, I forget who it was, but we violated with somebody within a meeting
after we said "no more waiver of fees". I was an affair for Father Gibson.
Okay. We had no choice, okay? Now, I think the Administration should have
realized the importance of this particular film, and I am not going to get
into the fire and on fire issues, but I think it should have been negotiated;
we should have figured out a way to cut through it and keep that film here
in Miami, because these are the types of things that we desperately need in
this community that will give gainful employment and will put this City on
the viewer's audience screens, both in television and in the movie houses, so
I would say that this Commission should take a policy decision to the Admini-
stration that anything dealing with the filming industry, the legitimate
filming industry, that is. We also had that problem with Deep Throat, as you
might remember that was also filmed in Miami, so we are not talking about that,
but things....
Mr. Hammersmith: It was the highest money making film that has ever been made
in Miami.
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Mayor Ferre: It may be, but we don't want the honor of having any more of those —'
things filmed here. But let us save the so-called legitimate filming industry
commercial or television or movie, that I think that the manager should treat
each case individually and should use the best judgment because these are money
producing things for the welfare of this community. Would somebody make the
motion to that effect?
Mr. Perez: I move.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Perez, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-20
A MOTION REITERATING AN ALREADY EXISTING POLICY OF THE CITY
COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S COOPERATION WITH THE
FILM INDUSTRY AND DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW
ALREADY EXISTING ORDINANCES WHICH MANDATE THIS COOPERATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Joe Carollo
13. DISCUSSION ITEM: FU1 DING REQUEST FOP. WYITWOOD ECONOMIC S
DEVELOPMENT INC. PROGRAM. -
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Mendez, you are back I see. The Chair recognizes
you.
Mr.Mendez: I really don't know what is coming first, the chicken or the egg,
but the truth of the matter is that I would appreciate it if you can take
some action on Item No. 31 before I can speak to you on personal appearances
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you address the issue and we will do it all
together.
Mr. Mendez: Alright, as you recall, about a year and one-half ago I came be-
fore this Commission requesting that the monies allocated for the Wynwood
Economic Development Program be given to the Small Business Opportunity
Program set up in Little Havana and so was granted to Small Business Oppor-
tunity Program and one of the conditions that was set up at that time was
the fact that the community at the time did not have a community based organi-
zation,so I had asked the Commissioners at that time that until we come with
a community organization, that there would be the agency to administer the
funds. Now we what we are saying to you is, that we have organized a communi-
ty organization. We no longer need the Small Business Opportunity Program
to administer these funds; we are ready to administer these funds, so we are
asking for the transistion from one organization to the other.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager, to you, and to the City Attorney, we have
both a practical managerial question and a legal question. Now, we have done
this in other occasions. We did it with Allapattah and we did it - where else
have we done it it - with Wyn ood. Little River, where we cut off one...
Edison, Edison. we cut off. Now in those cases however, there was an existing
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entity, which was, so to speak, duplicating the same function and which was
community based and had gone through a CD process, and then we voted funds
and then to eliminate potential hassles in the community, we funed both of
them. We subsequently came back and defunded one and gave the money to the
other. Now here we have a question where we are about to defund a entity
in Wynwood. The problem with the defunding of the entity in Wynwood, now
we have another community based organization, but it is a relatively new
community based organization requesting that the remaining funding, which
is not too much - what is it 3 months, 4 months - 4 months left be turned
over to a new community base so that they can continue these services. Now,
where do we stand on both of them legally on this?
Mr. Knox: (IN AUDIBLE - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
The objectives of the program is the design
Mayor Ferre: Now the only question that I would have then, if there are no
legal constraints, I have no problem with this, Mr. Mendez, provided however,
that your board is made up of representatives of a cross-section of that
community and that includes Haitians, Central Americans, other Latins, Cuban
and Puerto Ricans, Black & White. I think you have to have a cross-section
of the community that lives in the Wynwood area, and I think that becomes a
very germane point. Maybe you can address that issue.
Mr. Mendez: Yes, Mr. Mayor, I have always been conscious, and I don't know
whether you have ever heard me address, or remember addressing this Com-
mission before. I don't remember one time that I have addressed this Commis-
sion on behalf of anyone group in particular. I have always made sure that a
cross section of the community is represented.
Mayor Ferre: Mendez, this has nothing to do with you personally. I am asking
you a question. Just answer the question.
Mr. Mendez: Yes, it is representative. It is reflected in the incorporation.. —
Mr. Dawkins: May I ask of the attorney what he meant by "continuity"?
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Knox: (INAUDIBLE - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
Mr. Dawkins: Are you saying that the other groups can perform continuity for
the last three months, or are you saying that this group, being new can come
in and perform continuity. That's my problem. I mean, I am just asking you.
Thank you.
Mr. Gary: From an Administrative point of view, even though we follow a dif-
ferent procedure in terms of selected SBOC, because of Mr. Mendez' past per-
formance in the community as well as the unique situation with regard to
being able to continue some kind of activity, we would request that the City
Commission authorize us to review Mr. Mendez' proposed SBOC, or leased
Economic Development Corporation and negotiate the scope of scope of services
and enter into an agreement.
Mayor Ferre: I am sorry Howard. I wwas reading this latest release from
the City of Miami.
Mr. Gary: I don't think I could remember what I said, but anyway, the Administra-
tion, even though it normally follows the different procedure in terms of select-
ing economic development in neighborhood Economic Development Corporation, be-
cause of the uniqueness of this particular situation in terms of stopping one
service and immediately having a break in services, and because of Mr. Mendez'
past involvement in the community activities, particularly in that community,
we would recommend to the City Commission that we be permitted to finalize the
scope of services with Mr. Mendez and enter into an agreement if it is okay with
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Mr. Carollo: Do you want a motion to that, Howard.
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Mr. Carollo: So moved.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, under discussion.... moved by Carollo, seconded by Perez,
Under discussion Howard. The reason why the other outfit was defunded is be-
cause..
Mr. Gary: There were no representatives.
Mayor Ferre: It was apparent that they were not community based. It was being
run by another community not physically within the Wynwood area and the people
that were involved were not representative of the Wynwood community. Now that
is why we stopped. Now, we want to render the service; we just want it to be
community based. Now my only concern and I want to address that issue formally
and Mendez, please don't take this personally, I am not talking to you. I am
just saying that I want to make sure that three conditions are met. One, that
it is proper and orderly and you know, that if follows all the requirements of
the law. Two, that it be Wynwood based; that the people who are involved live
and work and be a part of Wynwood. I don't want them coming in from Little
River, or Coconut Grove or Little Havana or what have you to run the operation,
and thirdly, that it be truly representative of all segments of the community.
Now that community is about 30 or 40% Puerto Rican, 30 to 40% Cuban and 30 to
40% Haitian, if I am mistaken, please correct me.
Mr. Mendez:: So be it.
Mayor Ferre: And I just want to make sure that the Haitians and whoever else
lives in that community have the same amount of voice and representation in
proportion to the people who live there, that is all.
Mr.Mendez . Yes sir, we will.
(INAUDIBLE C0MMENTS - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion on this issue.
Mr. Dawkins: And any other, if it is refunded it will go out for bids, or what?
Mr. Gary: When we go through a process and it comes before the City Commission
for their review and approval.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion on this issue? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by. Commissioner Carollo, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-21
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPLORE
A PROPOSAL MADE BY JOSE MENDEZ FOR A SOCIAL PROGRAM IN THE
WYNWOOD AREA BASED UPON THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROPOSAL AND
INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH MR. MENDEZ TO FINAL-
IZE THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES PROPOSED TO BE PROVIDED SUB-
JECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THAT IT BE A COMMUNITY -BASED ORGANIZATION.
2. THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM LIVE IN
WYNWOOD COMMUNITY.
3. THAT SAID ORGANIZATION BE TRULY REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL
SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
APES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
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19. APPOINTMENT TO MIAMI-DADE LIBRARY BOARD: EDMU14D HEURY ADVOCATE
FULL STATE FUldDING TO THE LIBPAP.' SYSTEM.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on Item No. 7, Juanita Johnson, Chairperson of the
Miami Dade Library Board, regarding their annual report and appointments.
Mr. Muir. These chambers are always honored with your presence.
Mrs. Muir: Thank you Mr. Mayor. Juanita Johnson asked me to take her place
because she was called into a conference at Miami Dade Community College where
she is a librarian. She is our esteemed chairman of our Metropolitan -Dade
County Miami.Dade Public Library Advisory Board. I am a former chairman and
I will say at this time that in the .. when I have your attention I will say
it I guess ..
Mayor Ferre: We have —don't mind us, we are listening to you.
Mrs. Muir: I don't believe it for a moment, but I will go right on. It is
past time for you to confirm Edmund Henry, four months over due as a member
of this Library Board and I would like to mention his service so far. He
was appointed when Dr. Faye Walker left. I think she attended one meeting
after being appointed to the County Library Board and was forced to leave
because of the press of other duties. I would like to mention that Mr. Henry,
his term expired in September. He has served admirably that spot.
Mayor Ferre: Is Mr. Henry here?
Mrs.Muir: No, he is not, but he is thought of so highly by the County Library
Board that it elected him Vice -Chairman under Juanita Johnson, so I would
like also to say that it was the County Library Board which put into effect
the idea of presenting three names for election in order to provide suitable
names and not perpetuate ourselves, although I realize that I have been on
the board so long that you won't believe that that works. So, the board would
ask you to please put Mr. Henry in position so he can serve us. Then, I am
going to make this report brief, because I see the heavy load of business
you have to conduct. But if you were watching closely last summer, you noticed
that in heat of the budget cuts, the library was cut 1..7 million dollars and
the answer to that with our 25 libraries, the main and 24 branches was to cut
back hours. This concerns the County Board and we have made it known to the
County Commission that we would be grateful if this would not be considered a
permanent state of affairs. Now there is a way that you gentlemen can help.
When I was elected in the fall in Tallahassee to the State Library Board,
that was a...I was elected chairman; I have been on it for a year, appointed
by the Secretary of State. There is a great assistance the citizens of Dade
can play and you gentlemen in this important position can play it even more
effectively. That is to be in touch with the Dade Delegation and tell them
that you are very interested in getting full funding and State aid. Now I
have some figures here. Last year the library system received from State
aid, $1,081,548. Now this time around, the Secretary of State is making
a legislative budget request to provide $12,000,000 for distribution. Our
county and library system would receive $2,811,802 golden, dollars in state
aid. Now last year when we had library day, I will be up there for the state
meeting on the 2nd of February and for library day on the 3rd. We were able
to convince the Governor by lots of letters and our interest there that day
to increase the budget by 42%. Now, I see Mr. Plummer listening with interest
and his brother Larry in Tallahassee is a great help to us in libraries. Peo-
ple seem to think that public libraries are their due rights. All over this
country, libraries are in trouble. Here we are not in trouble really, be-
cause of the Decade of Progress bonds. We are the envy of the entire United
States. We have 25 libraries and I hope that all of you have a card in one
of them. If you have any questions, Mr. Edward Sintz who runs those 25
libraries admirably will speak to them, but I have one more thing I would like
to say. Ott this Monday when we had our county board meeting, we went, we had
a quick meeting at the main library and put on our hard hats and went over to
the new library, and I have found lots of things the matter with that, and in
fact I was on the selection committee and we got Phillip Johnson as an archi-
tect. He was not my personal choice, but it was a democratic action and we
voted. I want to say that I was utterly thrilled at the interior of that new
library. You walk in and the arch reminds you of the Metropolitan Museum of Art
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in New York and it reminds you of the San Francisco Library and it reminds
you of —well, the New York Library, and I hope that you gentlemen, who have
such a part in this, because let us never forg=t that the library system
started in Coconut Grove and Coconut Grove gave that land to the City of
Miami; that even this last week we paid the bill for children's furniture.
Some of us are occupied on every level with the development of libraries and
I can think of nothing more important and I hope that every one of you really
will be touch with your friends in the Dade Delegation and say "Don't forget,
.we want complete full funding of state aid". Do you have any questions?
Mayor Ferre: Helen, let me just say on the record, because perhaps the new
members of the Commission may not totally be aware....Helen Muir, who is be- =_
fore you is a long time resident of this community, Miami. in particular
Coconut Grove and she is, amongst other in the community, one of the main in-
novators of things that have been of great public benefit over the decades in this community, including, but not limited to the library, especially the
library in Coconut Grove, which is something that she started, helped along,
and she certainly has been Mrs. Library for this community and it seems for
the State of Florida since she was so quickly recognized by her peers in Talla-
hassee, so we are very fortunate to have her interest and her dedication to
the cause of libraries and she once in a while gets tempted with resigning
and moving on and letting somebody else fill her shoes and we are fortunate that somehow there are people here who convince her successfully that her shoes
could not be filled and that she indeed owes it to all of us to continue in her
efforts, so as far as I am concerned, if Helen Muir says that Edmund Henry is
the person that should be on, that is good enough for me and I ready to per-
sonally —you have got my vote.
Mrs. Muir: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption: _
RESOLUTION NO. 82-22
A RESOLUTION SELECTING ONE INDIVIDUAL AS THE CITY OF
MIAMI'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE MIAMI-DADE LIBRARY AD-
VISORY BOARD TO SERVE A TERM OF 3 YEARS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and -
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
Mayor Ferre: Now I would like to also ask for a resolution, Plummer, you might
want to make it, that the City of Miami Commission goes on record supporting the
Secretary of State recommendation for full funding in state aid that would
bring to the Miami Dade - Helen if you don't mind my correcting you, you kept
calling it the County Library Board, that is a major sore subject..
Mrs. Muir: You know, it shouldn't be,though, because let me tell you something
else....
Mayor Ferre: It is called the Miami -Dade Library..
Mrs. Muir: It certainly is and the friends are the friends of Miami -Dade, but
you know, we have all got to recognize that for three years the City of Miami
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had to cut back on funds with libraries and so we needed to be Dade. We are
both; I agree with you.
Mayor Ferre: Well, look, I think the official title isn't it...
Mrs. Muir: Oh, it is official - Miami -Dade, yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: So the Miami-Dade...I think the motion should read: "We support
the Secretary of State's recommendation to the Legislature for full funding and
state aid which would mean over $2,500,000 in state funds for the Miami -Dade
Library System. Is there a second?
Mrs. Muir: Thank you very much. I omitted one thing.......
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-23
A MOTION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI CITY COMMISSION FULLY SUPPORTING
THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO THE FLORIDA
LEGISLATURE REGARDING FULL FUNDING IN STATE AID TO THE MIA%1I/
DADE LIBRARY SYSTEM WHICH WOULD GRANT THE LIBRARY SYSTEM APPROXI-
MATELY $2,500,000 IN STATE FUNDS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Muir: There is just one thing that I neglected to say and that is this
Library Board herein afterward referred to as Miami -Dade Library Board is made
up of a proper mix for this community. Our chairman, who was unable to be here
today is Black. We have Anna Solar and Dr. John Becker who are both Cuban born,
so you may rest your fears about the ethnic mix and I thank you gentlemen for
listening and for giving me such quick action.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you.
Mr. Knox: For the record, the first motion was in fact a formalization of
Item No. 62 which was the resolution appointing individuals.
Mr. Plummer: And by the way, Mr. Mayor, I thought we had an understanding. I
will pick on Gary when he is not here, or Mr. Eads, that anytime we had anything
on the Committee of the Whole or personal appearances that related to an agenda
item, that it would be so noted.
Mayor Ferre: Yes. Okay, Jack, for the future will you do it that way.
20. DIRECT CITY CLERK TO ADVERTISE PUBLL'C HEARING REGARDING A
REQUEST TO PLACE A MONUMENT ID THE MEDIAN STRIP OF S.W. 13TH
A\iIUE.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, the next personal appearance is Rodolfo Rodriguez of
the Presido Politico Historico Cubano and this is a request to erect a monument
on S. W. 13th Avenue in the median strip between llth and 12th. Yes sir.
(Comment in Spanish).
Mr. Rodriguez: Please, may I have a translator?
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Mayor Ferre: (Comment inSpanish) Alright, proceed.
Mr. Rodriguez: (translation by Cesar Odio) The organization, non-profit
political prisoners in Cuba. They solicit a permit to erect a monument
in memory of the martyrs, the political prisoners of Cuba. The reason for
the erection of this monument is to establish the recognition and identity
for the ideals that those people fought for. The reason that they are asking
for this specific location is because in front of it is the actual house of
the political prisoners. These are the drawings and he has a document ap-
proving the architectural plans approved by the department of parks.
Mr. Plummer: Has this been to the Memorial Committee?
(Inaudible comments - not on microphone)
Mr. Plummer:. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that as normal procedure it be re-
ferred to the Memorial Committee as such time as they favorably recommend
that it be brought back here for a public hearing.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may, the people who are presenting this before _
us, they will be paying for the full amount of the project. Is that correct.
Mr. Odio: Yes sir. All they need is permission to erect that monument in the
location that they are requesting.
Mr. Carollo: How long will it take for us to follow this route of sending this
to the Memorial Committee?
Mr. Odio: At least 30 to 60 days.
Mr. Carollo: 30 to 60 days? Well, let me say this much. It is one thing if
someone is coming before this Commission requesting for this Commission to
pay for something like has been the case 99.9% of the times that I have been
here. When someone is coming before this Commission willing to pay the full
tab on a project they want to see, I don't want to play this game of ,you
know,hide & seek; we send them to this committee and they send them to another
committee and maybe sooner or later, and most likely later, they finally get
to us. If you want to send them to a committee J. L. I will say fine, but I
will tell you one thing, if by the time that we meet again in the month of
February, whatever committees have to see it, are not done with whatever
recommendations they want to give, or whatever changes or guidelines they
would like to put, I want this placed before the Commission so that I can vote
on it. Under that stipulation, I would be more than willing to go along with
your suggestion.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, let me bring to your attention, because it was Maurice Ferre
who well remembers that this Commission took an action in relation to 13th Avenue
otherwise known as Cuban Memorial Blvd. You were not around, nor was Miller nor
Demetrio. When this Commission, in good faith made approvals that which all were
funded by the private sector, I don't know, maybe Maurice might recall any item
that brought out people in the thousands to voice their objections, mainly based
on the fact, according to their contentions, there was no public notice. The
Mayor is the one who gave them absolute guarantee that anything related to S. W.
13th Avene in the future would be held by a public hearing. It just so happens
that that is the normal procedure for all of these anyhow, but in particular,
those assurances were given.
Mr. Carollo: Was that those whole bunch of people that have moved to Broward
County in the past few years?
Mr. Plummer: That could very easily be the case, and then again, it might not be
the case.
Mayor Ferre: Except for Judge Verdon's widow and her son wbo call me all the
time.
Mr. Carollo: To expedite things, I would be more than happy to make a motion,
or a substitute motion, if there isn't one that we will just place it in the
next agenda and have a public hearing on it and you know all racists, bigots
and Cuban haters that like to come before the Commission and express their
opinion on it.
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Mr. Plummer: And I am sure that you will bring out people whether they qualify under
your category or not, they will be out.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, the motion, the substitute motion and I understand is, that a
public hearing be held for whenever it is that we can ...
Mr. Plummer: February llth.
Mayor Ferre: Can we legally do it by February llth?
Mr. Carollo: Can we Ralph?
Mr. Ongie: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, February llth we have a public hearing that will be properly
advertised and not and at the same time you advise the Memorial Committee of
what we are doing. If they have any objections they can present them at the hearing
on the llth. Any problems with that? It has been moved by Carollo, second by Daw-
kins. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-24
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING
TO BE HELD IN CONNECTION WITH A PROPOSAL FOR THE ERECTION OF A MONU-
MENT ON S.W. 13TH AVENUE, IN THE MEDIAN STRIP, BETWEEN S.W. 11TH AND
S.W. 12TH STREETS, PURSUANT TO A REQUEST MADE BE A REPRESENTATIVE OF
"PRESIDIO POLITICO HISTORICIO CUBANO"; FURTHER DIRECTING THAT THIS
PUBLIC HEARING BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE FEBRUARY 11, 1982 COMMISSION
MEETING.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Carl, do we need to do the same thing for the Simon Bolivar statue
on Bayfront Park that we have been sitting on for a year now?
Mr. Kern: The Commission already ruled on the location of that statue. Now we
should start getting funding from the Venezuelans.
Mayor Ferre: Will you please write them a little note and tell them - because I
ran into the Venezuelinn Consulate the other day and he said "you guys are hold-
ing up our statue", and I said "we are?", so you know if he is not coming up with
the funds then I don't know what ... he can't be beefing to us.
Mr. Kern: I will write him a followup on it.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 9 WAS WITHDRAWN.
21. APPROVE USE OF BAYFROI T PARK AUDITORIVII WITH A REDUCTIC*N Ih THE
FEE FOR THE UNITED CERLBRAL PALSY ASSOCIATIOi4 OF XIAMI , II. -IC.
Mayor Ferre: The next item is Joseph A. Aniello, Executive Director of the United
Cerebral Palsy Association of Miami regarding a reduction of fee waiver of Bayfront
Park Auditorium.
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Mr. Aniello: Yes, how appropriate. My name is Joe Aniello and I am from -
United Cerebral Palsy of Miami. The address is 1411 N.W. Avenue. The grounds
for the reason that I have requested a fee waiver for the use of Bayfront
Auditorium this coming weekend in which we are holding our United Cerebral
Palsy Telethon, which is part of the National Telethon for Cerebral Palsy, is
that I believe the ordinance was passed some two months ago or so back in
November. We set the date with Bayfront with Mrs. Bush. We used the auditor-
ium last year. Immediately after that appearance, after we put on our tele-
vision production last year, we told Mrs. Bush to reserve those dates for us
for this coming year. We never did in fact sign a contract for the use of
that facility. Last year we got the facility for the reduced waiver of half-
price and we are requesting the same this year. We never had a contract, be-
cause we asked Mrs. Bush that if we could look around and get some place for
free, we obviously would prefer to get the facility for free since all the
money that we raise does go back to services for the City of Miami and Dade
County. We did not find any place suitable to hold the telethon, and so we
notified Mrs. Bush a number of months ago that we would like to go ahead with
holding it at Bayfront and we didn't find out about the ordinance until after
that when we tried to sign the contract.
Mr. Plummer: How much dollars are you talking about?
Mr. Aniello: The fee would be, without the waiver, $1500 and with the waiver
it would be $750.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, you have heard the discussion on the request by the United
Cerebral Palsy Association of Miami. What is the will of this Commission?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the will of this Commission, unless we violate the
policy is, there are no waivers.Now you know, we waive for one, bye bye rules
Mayor Ferre: You waive for one, you waive for two.
Mr. Plummer: Bye bye revenue. There is nothing we can do for you sir.
Mr. Aniello: Even though the people from the movie industry?
Mr. Plummer: They are not using the facility other than for the purposes of
filming a commercial.
Mr. Aniello: It seems that this money that you are collecting for it, is going to go right back, that we are paying you is going to go right back into services
in Dade County and the City of Miami for the same people.
Mr. Plummer: That could be said by every group that rents it sir.
Mr. Aniello: Even though we have prior commitments from with the date before
the ordinance
Mayor Ferre: Well now, do you have a prior commitment for a waiver..
Mr. Aniello: Not for a waiver. I am sorry, we assumed that we had the facility
at $750 when we committed ourselves at that point, and we planned on that in our
budget for the ...
Mayor Ferre: How much are we charging you?
Mr. Aniello: $1500, $750 with the waiver.
Mayor Ferre: Yes Walter.
Mr. Pierce: They were in contact with the auditorium manager prior to November
12th. It was at that meeting that the City Commission voted a motion of intent
to declare a no fee waivers for any purposes. The fee at that time would have
been $1500. Since then the Commission has passed an ordinance increasing the
fee of that auditorium to $2000.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I think he has a valid beef. In other words, what he is say-
ing is that when they started on this thing, they had assumed what our policy
had been.
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Mr. Pierce: Prior to November 12th, the City Manager could have waived
half of the rental fee of $1500.
Mayor Ferre: And what he is saying is, then we subsequently changed the rules
of the game on him so he has a legimate beef. Now I don't know whether ... you
know...I am not making an argument for him.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but the point you are missing is, the charge today is $2000,
not $1500.
Mayor Ferre: The charge today is $2000 and we are letting him have it for $1500.
Mr. Pierce: The rates were raised after November 12th and..
Mr. Plummer:. They are still getting a 25% reduction.
Mayor Ferre: I got you. Well, you heard the expressed will of one member of this
Commission and as he was reiterating, the policy of this Commission, as of Novem-
ber 12th.. Now, if anybody has any different attitude, let's speak now or forever
hold your peace.
Mr. Aniello: Even though the commitment was made before the fee went up?
Mr. Plummer. But there was no commitment. You know a commitment is in writing
and dollars exchange. That is a commitment. That is a contract, okay? You
know, you could say the same thing to us again next year. Now, I will tell you
what I am willing to do. I will make this motion for you. Where the fee pre-
sently is $2000, I will make a motion that it be given to you at old fee of
$1500. I don't think you should be penalized beyond beyond the additional $1500.
If that will help you.
Mr. Aniello: It is obviously better than $2000.
Mr. Plummer: It is 25% reduction of the going fee..
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second.
Mr. Plummer: I would like to get a 25% reduction on all my costs. I will set-
tle for 10%. -
Mr. Aniello: You will probably preclude us from using that facility again
though in the future, or any facility.
Mayor Ferre: Alright. Further discussion on the motion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-25
A MOTION REDUCING THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE USE OF BAYFRONT
PARK AUDITORIUM BY THE UNITED CEREBRAL PALSEY-ASSOCIATION OF
MIAMI, INC. TO $1,500, BASED UPON THE FACT THAT NEGOTIATIONS
FOR THE USE OF SAID AUDITORIUM WERE IN PROGRESS PRIOR TO THE
RATE CHARGE ADJUSTMENT LATER MADE FOR THE USE OF THIS FACILITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
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Mayor Ferre:
I vote on this with a heavy heart because, seriously, this is not a money
making operation. These people are serving this community. But I under-
stand, and I just want to tell you that I am going to vote with the motion.
I am going to do it. We are all voting with a heavy heart because these are
community based organizations that are not profit making; they are helping
the community. Cerebral palsey is a very serious matter. We vote monies to
help Irish festivals and St. Patrick Day parades and Calle Ocho and all kinds
of carnivals and Kwanza and all this, so you know ... but, we also recognize
that we now live in a new era of restraint and this city is no different than
any other government in this country. We have to cut down. We have to cut
expenses and we just can't give things away like we used to with as much as
we used to, so I am sorry, I vote yes.
22. PUBLIC HEARING: STREET CLOSING REQUEST FOR BANYAN TYPE
FESTIVAL (DENIED).
Mayor Ferre: Is Jo Ann Forster here?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, this also gives as Item No. 39 on your agenda also.
Mayor Ferre: Item No. 39?
Mr. Gary: Coconut Grove Art Festival.
Ms. Forster: My name is Jo Ann Forster and I am president of the Coconut Grove
Chamber of Commerce, 3437 Main Highway, Coconut Grove. I am speaking in response
to No. 39 on your agenda and I would like to read a resolution from the Board
of Directors at a meeting on January 6, 1982.
"It was moved that the Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce in conjunc-
tion with other civic groups proceed with plans to have a Coconut
Grove festival on the downtown business streets of the Village of
Coconut Grove during February 19, 20, & 21, 1982, the weekend of
the Coconut Grove Art festival sponsored by the Coconut Grove Asso-
ciation."
The motion was passed. The Chamber is the sounding board of Coconut Grove
groups, organizations, individuals and merchants. I can tell you as president
that I have been getting a lot of phone calls and a lot of pressure because of
the fact that we hear that the Coconut Grove Art festival is moving. I come
here today hopefully as a problem solver, not as a problem giver. I have been
listening to the merchants; I think we all can agree that the Coconut Grove
merchants have suffered in the past economically due to the economy; the Time
magazine article did not help us. The eyes of the nation were upon us at that
time. We have seen a lot of Grove merchants come and go, a lot of "for rent"
signs. I get calls every day from merchants telling me they are going to try
to stay one more day. It is has come to the point where we have many thousands
of dollars worth of dues and receivables because the merchants cannot afford to
pay their dues. I don't want to give a sob story, but we have started a PR
fund where they have taken many times their last dollars unified together
for positive publicity for Coconut Grove to generate business. Sometimes just
one day can save them. They look forward to Christmas. They look forward to
the Coconut Grove Art festival, to our Banyon festival and a few other individual
days to save them. What I want to happen is for us to help each other. That is
what the Chamber is formed for, to help the merchants and I hope we can help
each other. I have a petition here and I will introduce another speaker in a
little while that we went out in the rain to get today, bad weather, from the
Coconut Grove merchants, with this resolution from the Board of Directors to
have this non-competitive street fair. We would like to co -exist with the
festival to take advantage of what we see to be a natural economic resource.
There is not a lot of those around, and we would like to take advantage of it.
We would like separate, non-competitive street fair. We could not compete with
them. They are one of the most professional, successful, highly juried shows in
the United States. We respect them; they have brught in, on these two or three
days, a tremendous amount of business into Coconut Grove. The merchants need
it, look forward to it and now with very little notice and after the hard times
that we know they have had, they hear it is being moved. We see a possibility
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to take advantage of this, perhaps another possibility would be a to have
this successful organized festival moved back to where it has been for a
very long time or perhaps a compromise on the boundaries. My speaker that
will come up after me will show you gentlemen that the festival originally
began a long time ago, 1953 by Charles Zimmerman at the Coconut Grove Play-
house in the center of the village to promote the Grove businesses and artists.
Our facilities are used every year through the hundreds of phone calls that
get at the Chamber to help promote the festival. Again, I would like to re-
peat it; it is successful; it is professional and it is beneficial to the
merchants. The past few years, the last month or two before the festival, we
are always up in the air about what is going to happen. I know something that
is going to come up is the coat-tail effect that we like to take advantage of,'
that we like to hang on their coat-tails. Darn right. It is successful, and
that is what life is. Somebody has something successful. Somebody comes up
with a good'idea: design of a car, princess' dress and it is copies, it is
made better and that is what life is. Life is a spinoff, and we try to improve
upon it and teach our children to improve upon it, and we would like to take
advantage of it. The Chamber feels that we have a responsibility and we hope
that you have a responsibility to look out for the entire community, what is
fair to all, and the net effect to all. The merchants are looking forward to
this festival like they have year after year. We have tried to cooperate with
the Grove Association and have had them at our meetings to see if we could help
in any way with the squatter problem. A point was made at the meeting that one
of the objectives they wished us to fulfill is to eliminate certain types of people
that come to the festival: people with parrots or dogs. Well, no matter where
you move the festival you are going to get all types of people. We have all,
types here. I looked around when I walked in. I am a type; you are a type.
You have a dog; I have a bird. On the weekends I put my jeans on and I have
seen some of you hanging out at some places I hang out and you are a different
type of person then, okay? And I am not going to mention any names. (LAUGHTER).
You know, life is made up of different types of people and we are not an elitist
society where we can discriminate and just have Bal Harbour types or Palm Beach
types. The success of the festival has not only been because it is so well or-
ganized and because it is juried, but because of Coconut Grove. Coconut Grove
has an ambience and a beauty and a charisma about itself and that is why it
known nationally and internationally and people came down and that is why you,
the City spend lots of money on bricks and street lamps for Coconut Grove. We
need the funds; we need it to generate money to the merchants; we need it to
help ourselves. We need trash pickup in Coconut Grove. We need more PR, better
PR in Coconut grove - plantings. All I can say is that we can't always get the
money from the City. We want to help ourselves. We want to take responsibility.
We want to fill a gap due to the closing of the Grove house. We want bring in some
Florida artists. We want it to be a total Grove effect, total Grove input, what
is best for all - the city, the merchants. The festival is not one person. It
is not one person; it is not a vacuum, and we want to help. I would like to bring
up Bill Klemmer, artist, Coconut Grove.
Mr. Klemmer: I was born in Coconut Grove and Dinner Key Hanger in the 135 Hurri-
cane. I consider myself a pretty good native of the Grove area. I am a product
of the Grove. I was the first teacher at Grove House who started their school
and one of the founding members of Grove House, which is a community or was a
community, but still esistent representative of South Florida artists.
Mr. Ongie: Would you give us your name please?
Mr. Klemmer: Bill Klemmer, I am sorry. I am a recognized artist in the communi-
ty as a goldsmith and have been sort of Peck's bad boy of the Chamber of Commerce
and everyone else for many years because I always seem to take the wrong side in
many issues. I am not taking any side in this issue because I am both an artist
in the Grove festival. I am a participating member of Grove House and of the
Chamber of Commerce and in the past have been with the Grove Association which
puts on the Grove festival. I will be exhibiting in the Grove festival this year
and I did agree with Mrs. Holzhauser at the time the Grove festival was moved
that I thought it was a good idea because of crowd control. But I did not real-
ize the economic detriment to the major area of the Grove or to the merchants,
of which I am as well. I do not have a shop in the downtown area, but I do have
a studio on 27th Avenue and fell that it would hurt the community terribly to
move the festival physically to a different area from the original area that
it has been very successful in fqr the last 18 years. I have a history of the
Grove festival which orginated with the Left Bank Art Show given by the Coconut
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Theatre where the office is of Charlie Zimmerman who was the PR director and
the head of the gallery there, Ethel Blake. I was at that time chairman of
floor sales at Grove House and asked to get as many artists as I could to line
the streets. My sister at that time was president of Coconut Grove Junior
Woman's Club and they collected all the funds from the artists and gave a per-
centage to Grove House which at that time was the fore -runner of the Grove
festival. It was decided the succeeding year with the advent of the begin-
ning of Grove Association that they have the administration of running the
Grove festival in conjuction with Grove House and Coconut Grove Chamber of
Commerce and the other civic groups. The third year of the Grove festival,
the Grove Association decided to pick the same date of the Grove festival as
the Lowe Art Show which had already been existence for 7 years and I was also
an artist in that show and I had been since its founding and I told them that
I could not help them because it conflicted and I thought it very unfair for
them to pick the date. Tim Sullivan who is a PR representative from FPL told
them that he didn't care one way or the other, he was going to put the show
on that year.at that time. From then on, it was downhill in relationship be-
tween Coconut Grove Chamber of Commerce, Grove House and the Grove Association
and has been in many years since. I have offered my assistance to the Grove
Assocation through my familiarity with the merchants any everyone else con-
nected with the Grove, but I have not been asked to participate in quite a
few years. I am gone during the summer when a lot of the ground work is done,
however I am here at least from November through the beginning of the festival
and willing to assist them in their festival. I am not proposing that the
Grove festival be expanded to two festivals, althought it would be an answer
to solving everyone's problem, at least for the Chamber of Commerce and every-
one else concerned, because Grove Association is the cultural arm of the Grove,
but they have not assisted the Grove House in finding a new place; they have
not been willing to assist anyone else in any other projects in the Grove other
than to perpetuate just their art festival & musical shows. They do not have
any other art show, although they consider themselves the cultural arm of the
Grove. They do not represent anyone except the special elitist of the member-
ship of the Grove Association. I don't know what to direct the Chamber in doing,
except that I would like to see the Grove brought back as one unit where every-
one participates from the show, not just benefits, but is willing to share the
responsibility of the Grove festival. I am an artist, a merchant, and a very
interested person of the Grove.
Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time now, you have taken about 15 minutes.
We have a long agenda; let's move along. Is there anything else you want to
say? I think your presentation and your interest is very clear.
Ms. Forster: The only thing that 1 think I would like to do is Bruce Hoffman
who is a director would like to explain where we would like to have the art
show which I think is an important consideration.
Mayor Ferre: Bruce, just do it fairly quickly so we can get on.
Mr. Hoffman: Yes sir. My name is Bruce Hoffman and I would like to just give
you the particulars. You have seen the charts that we have up here in front of
you. The red area as shown on the chart is, as we understand it, the area to
which the present art show will be moved. In other words, it will go out of the
downtown business district. It will be along McFarland and South Bayshore Drive.
The green area that you see up there is the present area that the festival is
held in and the area that we are concerned with here today and the area in fact,
that we want to have our part of the arts festival retained in. I think we have
basically two problems that we are trying to solve. One is that right now the
merchants are going to be left high and dry if the festival is moved out and
the second problem that we have and I think we are providing a reasonable solu-
tion to is there is a total of 350 to 400 thousand people coming through; there
is going to be a massive spillover anyway. And I think as far as any possibility
of trying to discourage that many people coming, you might as well walk down to
Biscayne Bay and tell the tide not to come in. Those people are going to come,
one way or the other. What we are proposing to do is to provide a structured
situation for the old area and which is in fact, the area that these people
areused to going into. We are looking, and I want to emphasize one fact strong-
ly, we are not looking for a conflict situation. I think what we are offering
is co -existence and co -existence with a real reason and that we can provide an
unstructured situation and a more relaxed atmosphere than what is being pro-
posed now as being just the art show on the public land on South Bayshore Drive.
We have also put in a good deal of work. This is not just something that we
have come to you all on, just off the cuff to try and see if we can get your
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approval on something, but we have put in a good deal of work in preparing pro-
posals with the garbage collection. Also we have spoken and this is only a pro-
posal at this time, but we are talking on the idea of 30% of the net to go to
the FOP in exchange for which we would be looking for off duty officers that we
need for the situation. We are talking about roughly 250 booths to be set up at
$175 per booth which comes out to in the neighborhood of $44,000. As you can see,
we are talking about a good deal of money, all of which we intend to put back into
the community. It will go not only to the FOP, but to the Chamber of Commerce for
the various projects and for the beautification of the area we have been talking
about before. So, not to waste anymore time on the issue, I simply would like
you to understand that we are not asking for anything that wasn't done last year
as far as blocking off those exact streets that were blocked off last year. Ob-
viously in addition to that, McFarland and South Bayshore will be blocked off,
but as you can see, that is merely a continuation and doesn't really represent
any difference to the traffic flow.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, thank you for your presentation. Can you make yours in 15
minutes? They took twenty, but maybe you can make it shorter.
Ms. Holzhauser: I am Joanne Holzhauser, I live at 4330 Ingram Highway, Coconut
Grove. I am the executive director of Coconut Grove Art Festival. I will try
to go around on this as quickly as I can just from notes that I took as they
went along. It won't be very connected, but here it is. Ms. Forster started
out by saying the Chamber is the sounding board. I would prefer not to refer to
these people as the Chamber, because I have direct information from members of
the Chamber Board and members of the Chamber itself that they do not in fact
speak for all of the Chamber, all of the merchants, so I will choose to use the
word opponent.
Mr. Carollo: Joanne, excuse me for a moment, if I can. You will get extra time.
I would like to see if I could draw the battle line, see who is where. Can I
have the hands of those people who are here with you?
Ms. Holzhauser: I wish you wouldn't say battle lines.
Mr. Carollo: All the people that are with you here, can I see there hands?
Okay, and how about all the people that are with the other side. Okay, that is
about 24 or 25 people. Thank you.
Ms. Holzhauser: I didn't really think it was necessary to ask our members or
supporters to come. These are mostly board members that are here.
Mayor Ferre: This Commission has always been concerned. You know that. You have
been around long enough. I was hoping that perhaps some of the busy people who
sent letters might possibly be included in the count. The sounding board ... oh..
this is our poster if you all will come and look at it. What a beautiful poster
we have coming out ... Coconut Grove Art Festival. This is produced - I know Mr.
Carollo likes to know the dollars and cents - this is produced at no expense to
,.he City of Miami and on the back of it in 18 gorgeous languages it is going to
have "Miami invites you". and it is going to have a lovely blurp about Coconut
Grove and the shopping center and a lot of other nice things. This is our first
effort for the community and for the City of Miami. Time magazine certainly
didn't help us and the last thing we need is crowd scene at this festival which
will be put in press all over the country as Marti Gras in New Orleans was last
year. I am not sure whether you remember, but one person was killed, several
were seriously injured and I don't know how many were hospitalized as a result of
that. That is not the kind of publicity we need. They were very clear about it.
I will congratulate Ms. Forster and Mr. Bucolo. In his private conversations
with me they have never minced words. They said, and she said repeatedly they
want us to bail them out, the PR fund, the whole thing about "take advantage of".
She used that phrase several times. That's exactly what it is, taking advantage
of. Mr. Bucolo has told me "that's it, you have the money, and we are going to
take it". The public relations fund, I never been able to find out very much about.
I am under the impression that it probably pays Mr. Bucolo's salary. I under-
stand there is a magazine that was supposed to be produced some months ago and I
am told that it just hasn't come out yet. I have asked Mr. Bucolo repeatedly for
copies and I don't know where that is, so I think they have got some money you
would find that has been contributed by people. I don't really know what it has
been used for, but now we are being asked to basically sit still while they take
what is our reputation and our integrity. and our time and service. mr. nucolo
and Ms. Forster have both asked me for a list of our rejects. I don't have
rejects. I have people who weren't accepted. I think it is also really a bit
much to ask us to spend 12 months keeping an office going, keeping me and a secre-
tary employed, both of us part time, may I add, to develop an entire festival and
then to say to us, why don't you give us your list. I do not ever give my artier's
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list out by the way. The IRS and the City of Miami License Bureau are the only
people who get lists, which makes it public property, but I don't give them to
anyone. They look forsard to the Arts festival. Well, this wasn't quite the
story for a few years. What we got was a lot of phone calls and a lot of gripes
about the festival was blocking everybody's view. It was keeping them from —
doing business. When we did the magazine a couple of years ago, only two mer-
chants in the Grove cared enough to put ads in. The attitude of the others was
either, "Well it is already here, why should we contribute" and the other answer
was "Well all you do is make trouble for us". We have consistently through the
years been told that the festival makes trouble for people. We don't like for -_
it to be that way. They talk about help each other. I have made repeated efforts =_
to do it. I have offered council time through the pleasure of my board to
the Chamber of Commerce to the Goombay festival, to Overtown, to Kwanza, to a =
number of other organizations. Dr. Lizaso has a standing offer from the Coconut =_
Grove Arts Festival that we will contribute consulting time to any non-profit '
group in the City of Miami. Some of them have taken us up on it, by the way.
not the Chamber and not Goombay. I have contributed to Mr. Bucolo a number of
ideas which -I am told by friends on the Chamber Board never come up before the
Board. I suggested that they have printed with our poster on one side and their
logo on the other a large number of plastic shopping bags and let each merchant
do something like a free flower, drink with the meal, dessert or whatever. I think
they could probably sell 50 or 60 sheets in that bag. I offered him that they
would be welcome to come within the festival boundaries and distribute that in
any way they wished to to encourage repeat traffic in Coconut Grove. I think
you gentlemen will agree with me that there are very few woman and men that
will not come back to the Grove if they have 50 or 60 goodie items to pick up.
That will probably generate 4 or 5 repeat trips when they wouldn't have a festival
crowd. He has, as far as I know, done nothing about this. We have offered them
space with a booth to distribute whatever they want about the Chamber of Commerce.
We offered them that in the original location; my offer still stands. I have
an area, the women's club area which we pay for, but I have charitable and non-
profit groups; we are happy to have them there. As far as being non-competitive,
there is no way for it to be non-competitive. It just it. We have a reputation
that we work very hard for. Compromising on the boundary, I don't know what com-
promise there is, We are basically forced into the position of having the groups of people come in as we would say into our homes and say "I really like what you
are doing, I have a van outside and I would like to load it up with what you _
have got and take it away. You are going to cooperate, aren't you?" and then
having someone in authority say "Cooperate, let them have half of it. It doesn't
hurt, you have got plenty". The hundreds of phone calls that the Chamber gets,
this has gone on, I am not sure, maybe Stewart remembers if he is in the audience.
I am sure it was Spencer Meredith. It has gone on for several years with the
Chamber of Commerce to the point where I have written to them and said, "would
you do me a favor and not give out any information about the festival, but my
phone number" because frequently the information is not particularly helpful and —_
I just as soon they just give me the phone number. I would appreciate if they
would do that. Her comment that "that is what life is like", yes?
Mayor Ferre: I don't mean to tell you how to address this issue and all that.
Ms. Holzhauser: But you are going to?
Mayor Ferre: Why don't you address the issue and forget what they said and
all that. I don't think that serves any purpose. We have a very clear issue
here and I think you ought to describe it and what your position is in your
own terms I think that this Commission will have to take it and make a decision.
Well, I would like to comment though on what they said. One of the comments, if
I may make one more is particularly urgent. In the meaning that I was invited
to before the Chamber, and I have a board member here with me who was there.
We were invited to discuss our problems. Ms. Forster gave me perhaps 5 minutes.
At that point they told us that they had heard enough and that we couldn't
keep people out of the Grove. She brought that up again. May I point out
we are not trying to eliminate people. We simply want to eliminate dogs, cats,
snakes and the other.things that people bring in. I don't think that is asking
too much that we try in some way to eliminate things that are a problem. The
biggest problem however, if you want me to get right to the heart of it is the
crowd. The crowd this past year was unmanageable, unwieldly. I believe the
Police Department agrees with me on the fact that we need some way to have a
safe festival.
Mayor Ferre: How large a crowd did you have?
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Ms. Holzhauser: We had, according to the police figures about 450,000 spread
over 3 days. There were times from noon until 5 P.M. or so on both Saturday
and Sunday when it was impossible to move in the crowd. It is not a safe situa-
tion. I cannot ask, nor will I ask the Police Officers to go into a crowd and
arrest people. That is not what they are there for and that would only lead to
more trouble. We have a boundary, if you will allow us to do it, which puts us
in basically a similar condition to Winter Park and Las Olas who are beloved of
their city fathers who are protected in every way by their city. I would like
for us to be even more protected and on city property completely. This was not
done to move this over for the rest of the century; it was our attempt in one
year to see if we could put this where we could control the access not of peo-
ple, but of people who were doing things that are detrimental and of the large,
large, crowd. Those streets are very narrow and very dense. If we go down Mc-
Farland and South Bayshore and on the apron in front of the exhibition hall,
we have hugh amounts of property that people can spread out, be comfortable and
we also will have a situation in which many of the people who have caused trouble
we can attempt to ask them not to come in with whatever it is, including, may I
add the garbage cans on wheels with ice and beer. That is one of the big prob-
lems that is done in the festival continually. I just want to put us in a safe
place. I would rather not address the whole problem completely, but I would
like to say I have here a scrapbook, the origin of the festival is in some ways
similar to what Mr. Klemmer said, but basically what we have got here is a group
of people who have said for years We have a right to what you are doing. You
are making big money." My audited report is on file with the City of Miami
each year. I have never checked to see if the Chamber's is, by the way, but mine
is. Dr. Lizaso and Mr. Howard and anybody else has had a standing offer,
Mr. Gary's office has anytime they want to come and see our books, they are open.
You can see every dime we spend. We are a non-profit organization chartered by
the State of Florida. We do exactly what the law states that we do. We have
nothing to hide. If I may say one more thing. The main reason Mr. Klemmer has
not been able to help us is, if he wishes to be an artist, I cannot have him
serve on the jury. I appreciate his offers of help. As he said, he is out of
town through much of the formative stage. He was here for our Christmas party
which is the only thing we have done since he is back in town. It is not an at-
tempt to hurt anyone, but really is a case of your being asked to be Solomon and
decide who gets the baby, and I am here to tell you that we are a non-profit or-
ganization. If you hurt us, what are we going to do. I think that we bring im-
mense publicity to the City of Miami. Mr. Carollo and Mr. Plummer who watch
the budget lines, we are almost paying for our festival at this point with very
little contribution from the City. Thank you sir.
Mayor Ferre: You have only taken about 10 to 12 minutes, so go right ahead
please.
Ms. Holzhauser: Excuse me, could I mention just one more thing? I forgot to
mention community groups supporting them. I have a letter from
Hoffman saying that the Coconut Grove J C's are not taking any position on this
matter, so I don't know...
Mayor Ferre: You also gave me a letter from Woody Weiser which basically supports
your position and it is going to be in the record.
Mr. Carollo: Joanne, how much money are you being given by the City?
Ms. Holzhauser: The festival committee recommended $12,700. I have been offered
$9,000. I am spending a good deal of money on the showmobiles and the sanitation
and Dr. Lizaso said that he might go to administrative process, no way we have....
Mr. Carollo: Are you settling for $9,000, or are you going for the $12,700?
Ms. Holzhauser: May I talk about that after you have decided what we are going
to do?
Mr. Carollo: We will talk about it beforehand.
Ms. Holzhauser: Well what I was hoping was that we could get rid of the festival...
Mayor Ferre: Finish your statement. The other people had 20 minutes, now you
have had about 13, so finish your statement.
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Ms. Holzhauser: What I would appreciate is, can we just settle the problems
about the location, because it is hard to go on to the other things if we are
up in the air. Thank you very much.
Mr, Welcher: My name is Henry Welcher. I am the president of the Coconut Grove
Association. We sponsored the Coconut Grove Arts Festival for the last 19 years.
There is something that has to be pointed out, and I think it it should be stressed
to everyone present. This move is not a hard and fast move that is going to be for-
ever and ever. We are doing it this year to avoid some of the problems that we had
last year. Some of these problems were with the merchants. Some of them were crowd
control. We were faced with the threat of an injunction last year by one of the
merchants. We had thought, and this is a board decision by our board after a
long and well thought out and well discussed session. It was a board decision to
move the festival out of this particular area for the simple reason that we
thought that the merchants, a lot of them, would be a lot happier having it out'
of there because now their shops can stay open. There shops will not be blocked,
people will be able to get to their shops and their sales should go up rather than
down. They all say that when you have a festival there they have access to their
shops blocked. That was one of the major factors. There is another factor and
that is the potential danger of problems we have which is narrow streets where
they don't have adequate fire access; we have parking meters sticking up that peo-
ple run into. They have curbs that people have tripped on and we have plate
glass windows everywhere. That was another consideration. We also thought that
last year we needed more police protection than we had, so that is another fac-
tor of why we are moving it. They have increased our police protection this
year both in our are and outside of our area. These are things that we are things
that we have really taken into consideration. It is a conciusness which we
think will actually be for the benefits of th merchants in the long term. Every
one knows that this is a very highly publicized event and a national festival and
the last thing we need is for it to turn to a rank carnival type atmosphere and I
think that whatever the intentions ofthe Chamber of Commerce members are that are
here, they just don't have the time to plan this type of a festival and to pull it
off properly and successfully. We have been planning our festival for the last
12 months after having had 18 years experience running these festivals and as
a result of planning it for the last 12 months, we feel like we are fairly ready
to go with it, whereas you just can't pull of a festival like this in 6 to 10
weeks planning, particularly if you haven't done one in the past. But, another
problem that we have is our artists are very upset about the idea of having compe-
tition right next door that is unjuried, that is unstructured. Our artists had
to pay a jury fee; they have had to pay us in advance for the space and they are
good competent well respected artists. We are one of the top four shows in the
country. If you are going to have a show right next door to us that is totally
unjuried, totally unstructured and there is no way to deliniate the two of those.
There is physically no way to separate the two festivals when you have these
crowds. The quality of the show is going to go down; there is no question about
it. Thank you very much for your attention.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, are there any further statements on your part? Let me
begin by making this statement so that I can express my position on this, win or
lose, just the way we see it. I have got friends on both sides and this is not
a question of friendship. I think that this is very similar to controversy that
we had about the boat shows. Okay? I think that these people have worked their
tails off for 19 years to make this a success. They have worked hard; they have
made it a success. They have a proprietary interest. I am talking about the
Coconut Grove Street Fair. It has been an uphill battle. They have all kinds
of problems on it. At times we didn't know whether it was going to survive or
not. They have a proprietary interest. They own it. They have worked it; it
is theirs; they have put it together. We have been in assistance to it, but these
artists and these people who have put this thing on have built this from nothing
to one of the more successful art festivals in the United States. We certainly
are within the top 10 in the country. Now, they have not threatened, for which
I thank them, and I think that is wonderful. Once they have become successful,
this is a moving feast. If they were to say, look, we don't like the way the
Grove merchants are treating us, we want this to be....we are all moving over
to South Miami or we are going to hold it in South Miami and this is going to
be the South Miami Art Festival....I would venture a guess that if these people
who have been the organizers of of this thing, with their knowhow, with their
lists and their names, and their artists were to move this to South Miami, it
would probably be just as successful. Now, because what is successful about
this is not the location anymore, but the fact that these people have 19 years
of experience and a track record and a list of names. Now, that is No. 1. No. 2,
this is similar also as if somebody were to come in and say, alright, Little Hava-
na Kiwanis Club, you are organizing the Calle Ocho festival, but we also want to
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organize a 27th Avenue festival to go in conjunction with you and we want to
piggy back on your efforts and we want the right to put our bands and we want
the right to put our things and piggy back on your efforts. You know these
kids in the Little Havana Kiwanis Club have worked hard to get this festival
underway. I think it would be unfair for somebody to try and come in and say
that they are going to piggy back on them. That is No. 2. No. 3, I don't know
about the other members of the Commission, but Plummer and I have been here for
quite a while and we have been dealing with this issue for - I have been dealing
with it - for 10 or 11 years and Plummer has about the same time, even though
some of those years were different from mine. I want to say that usually the
problem is the reverse. Two years ago for example, a lady who owns a flower
shop in the Grove bitterly protested, came here and said these people celebrate
this thing on St. Valentine's Day; they close down my shop; they spit on the
street; they litter the floors; my regular customers can't come in and along
came other merchants and she said she would give us a whole list of merchants
who simply do not want this in Coconut Grove. Let them go to the park or let
them go somewhere else. Why should they clutter up the entrance to my store?
Now - were you that lady? Well okay, I will get you the record and I will ask
the Clerk to pull the record of your words, and I may be paraphrasing....
(INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT PLACED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Ms. Holzhauser: She wanted to change the time and we did.
Mayor Ferre: Change the day and we changed the Valentine's Day and what have
you. Now, usually the protest has been the merchants are not overly happy with
the festival. Now, and I stand corrected on that. Now in conclusion, let me
put it to you this way. You are entitled to have a festival. You want to have
a Coconut Grove festival? You want to have two festivals? You want to have 10
festivals? You got my vote. I will support you for any festival you want. We
will close down Main Highway and Fuller and you can have a bash and you can have
an art festival and you can compete with them if you want. You want to have a
merchant's art festival. Terrific! Put it on. Let me tell you about this art
festival. It is one of the best art festivals in America. It is well organized.
It is regarded.... people come from all over the country to be a part of that art
festival. It brings prestige to this community. It has been an uphill struggle
for them to get this thing going. Yes, I know - a lot of artists are upset be-
cause they can't put their art into the festival. That is what makes this a
good festival, because they are selective, because they do say "we don't want
junk", excuse me, I don't mean to offend anybody, junk art or second rate art.
They had a committee made up of people who are not, I hope, self-serving, I
hope it is rotated. There are people who are respected in the community. It
is democratic and open and fair. It has community participation and what they
do is they decide what has the quality to be a part of this. It is an asset to
this community. For us to start tampering with what is a success, in my opinion,
not only might destroy the Coconut Grove Art Festival, but it might induce it to
move to another location. I think it is not going to do any good to the mer-
chants, and lastly I think that anybody who walks from Bayshore Drive up to
McFarland, who wants to walk another 100 feet and buy a piece of jewelry or
some clothes or flowers is going to do it. And I think that you are going to
have, with this festival the way it is structured you will have thousands and
thousands of people walking through the Grove anyway. I think you are just tam-
pering with a goose that lays golden eggs and my advice to you is - leave it
alone. Let these people do it there way. You want to have a festival, well
go have your own festival. That is one man's opinion. If I am not mistaken..
would you tell us what your name is?
Mr. Trainer: Charles F. Schultz, and I write Peanuts".
Mayor Ferre: Well, Mr. "Peanuts", if I am not mistaken, for the record, I don't
think that you had too many problems with support from this seat in the past 8
years.
Mr. Trainer: I see no problems there. I am not talking about me, but I would
like to apply what you said as far as don't tamper with the goose that lays the
golden eRg. I think that the Coconut Grove Art Festival was successful because
it is Coconut Grove. I have a tremendous feeling for this community. I love
this place, and I love the Coconut Grove Art Festival and I have always felt
this was free decor for the art festival and I always felt like I was a part of
the art festival until I read all these comments that there is no longer a Coco-
noL Grove Art Festival, if whoever's festival who wants to put it, in Peacock Paris.
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Mayor Ferre: We also need your name for the record.
Mr. Trainer: Monty P. Trainer, and I would like to be a friend of the Com-
mission, the Coconut Grive Art Association, which I am a member of, and the
Chamber, which I am a member of. I think we ought to leave the art festival
where it is today, in the streets of Coconut Grove. That is what has made it
so successful. And if you take it out of the Grove and put it into a City
Park, it just becomes another cty art festival. This is Coconut Grove. Leave
it in Coconut Grove. I don't know why...in the old days when you had all the _
derelics and the hippies and everything and we cherished these arts that would
come to us once a year, and we helped them and we tried to present a good image
of Coconut Grove. We are still doing this. I know that there have been isola-
ted incidents where merchants have been unhappy, but I think that 99% of the
merchants are happy with the Coconut Grove Art Festival. I certainly am. I
would just like to see if maybe you can be the peace makers, since Father Gibson
is gone to cpme bring everybody's hands together and bring the people together
and put the'art festival back where it was. I know the Chamber doesn't want to
put on an art festival, but they will. It may not be as good the first couple of
years as the one we have now, but it will grow. You can't stop Coconut Grove.
Mayor Ferre: Nobody wanted to.
Mr. Trainer: And you can't take the Coconut Grove Art Festival and put it in
South Miami. It won't work. They are trying it now. They tried to compete
with us. Coral Gables tried to compete with us. Nobody can compete with Coco-
nut Grove when it comes to art and art festivals because Coconut Grove, the
streets, the merchants, the feeling. I am saying why don't you get everybody
together and put it back and monitor it maybe a little bit this year, and make
your own judgment, but it put it back in the streets of Coconut Grove where it
belongs.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. Other opinions?
Mr. Carollo: Blessed are the peace makers, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mavor Ferre: Well, we all have our opinions, and I think we are entitled to our
opinions, aren't we?
Mr. Meyer: My name is Marcus Meyer. I am the owner of the Sara Klein -Meyer
Gallery in Coconut Grove, 3082 Grand Avenue. First of all, I would like to
say that all my fellow merchants in stores next to me are very concerned about
this matter, because of the Time magazine article, all the other problems we
have been having, our business has gone down the last few months. On my block
alone there are two stores that have closed. I have opened this art gallery
four months ago, trying to bring Coconut Grove back into a cultural center. Two
months ago there was another art gallery that just opened up and we need this.
I am looking for other artists to bring galleries to Coconut Grove. They are
not helping us any by moving it out of Coconut Grove. I represent many local
artists and they are very concerned about this matter. I would like to also
make it a point that I have called to Coconut Grove Association many times, try-
ing to help my artists being represented, and have gotten very rude replies. And
I have never been even given consideration to present portfolios on these artists,
and they have never cooperated with me, and I just like to plead with you please,
not to move it out of the business district. We are doing very bad. Many of my
fellow merchants are considering closing this next year and this is going to be
a major cause for their decision to close down. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, I need to ask you a question. You said this is going to be
a major cause?
Mr. Meyer: Yes sir, we count on it.
Mayor Ferre: You mean to tell me that the merchants of Coconut Grove, that the
difference between closing and not closing will depend on the art festival that
goes Friday, Saturday and Sunday.?
Mr. Meyer: This is one of our major things that we count on during the whole year
for our business and for exposure. I have a very limited advertising budget and
this is my major....
Mayor Ferre: Where are you on in the green map. Where is vcur shop. Oh, you
arp — grand Avenue. Okay. Is that where you are? You think that by us having
it in the green, you will have more people go to your shop than if we have it just
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in the red. And they won't park in those areas to go to the red area, is that it?
Ms. Holzhauser: He is not in it. He is on Grand Avenue which isn't part of
either location.
Mr. Meyer: (INAUDIBLE COZZ ENTS - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
'Ar. Welcher: They are going to take it to the red area or the green area, it
doesn't matter where you are going to take it. I think that is a very poor excuse.
I mean, you are going to take your animal anywhere, and.if you are a derelic you
are going to go to the green area or the red area.
Mr. Carollo: Joanne, why don't you be reasonable and let's have it only in only
in one place, and compromise. The green area I think is a sensible area. I think
you will accomplish everything that you had in the past and you will in the future,
if you have it in the green area.
Ms. Holzhauser: Mr. Carollo, that would not be a compromise. That would be allow-
ing a group of people who don't know anything about running an art festival to dic-
tate it. I am here to tell you that we carry extremely heavy liability coverage
which we are having to up this year just to cover it. If the city fathers order
us to go back into an area that we have said on the public record that we believe
is dangerous for us to be in, I think you will find that you are in a legal posi-
tion of advising us to do something that we alrea4y say is dangerous. May I
finish. As far as a compromise goes, a compromise means that we give in and do
what thev want us to. That sir, is not a compromise. I also believe that a com-
promise happens when you have two people who have a contract and you can talk a-
bout that. We cannnot, in our judgement put this festival on the streets on the
downtown, whatever you want to call it, area of Coconut Grove. The gentlemen
who referred to it as taking it out of theGrove, I believe that the Peacock family,
among others, would believe that where we are putting it is essentially Coconut
Grove. That is where it started near the foot of McFarland. I would like to point
out, by the way, for this gentlemen. He called me once. He said that he would
bring me whatever. I told him that we accepted only individual artists and that
the show was closed three months ago. Is that true? Sorry about that, but that
is what it is. It is not a matter of compromise, Mr. Carolla; we are asking for
something that we believe that we have every reason and good faith to ask for it
for this year. This year. We are pointing out that there are 51 other weekends
in the year that the Chamber may have anything they want to. We have never tried
in any way to interfere with them other than to say if you would like for us to
help, what can we do. And I repeat to you, on the record, if this thing goes
through and we are asking for it, they are still welcome to come within the festi-
val and distribute their goodie bags. We are not trying to hurt them. They can -
still have a table and talk about what they are doing. But cooperation is when
they have something to offer us and they don't have anything. I have said re-
peatly to them, "Please be nice, let's talk about what we can do. If you want
to supply marshalls to us, I will give them special badges with Chamber of Com-
merce marshalls, but we have an organization. I think the mayor pointed out per-
fectly. If the City Commission is going to start ordering non-profit organiza-
tions to get together and work things out, where will it stop? I mean, is Calle
Ocho going to like this? Is the Junior League going to like it if you tell them
they have to let the whoever —the Kiwanis..come in and tell them what to do?
We are a private organization and we are trying to do what we think is good.
I don't want to get into the history of Coconut Grove and what it is because we
would be here all night. I don't want to talk about what happened 19 years ago,
although I have the scrapbooks to prove....
Mr. Carollo: May I ask you a couple of questions?
Ms. Holzhauser: Certainly.
Mr. Carollo: How many years have you held your festival in the Main Highway area?
Ms. Holzhauser: It has been from various places to various places Mr. Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: The last few years though, you have...
Ms. Holzhauser: The last few years it has been on a part of Main Highway and on
Commodore and on Fuller. May I add one more thing that I did not bring up, but
it is very important in our action, When this festival started some years ago,
there were,I am not sure,3 or 4 families who lived back in *lain Highway. We now
have arbitrare and now have Mr. Simonoff's property and we have the property
that was owned by Mr. Harrison which is soon to be developed. We are in the
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position of risking having - those people are well-to-do - and we are in the
risk of having someone come to us and say "I don't like having my front yard
blocked. I don't like not being able to get in and out of my driveway. I
paid a lot of money for this property". There are probably 40 or 50 households —
sir, that we would be blocking. That is another consideration. This way I am
blocking no one.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, it is 5:15 P.M. and unless somebody else has something...
Ms. Holzhauser: Oh, I am sorry, do you have another question?
Mr. Carollo: I certainly do, Joanne, I was just waiting for you to finish.
What I understand here, Ladies & Gentlemen and my colleagues on the Commission
is that we are trying to create a peace treaty, some may call it that, and you
are taking the attitude Joanne that "well, it is going to be my way or else it
is not going'to be done". You are sticking your nose up to them and saying
"Come on, I'll take you on, let's fight".
Ms. Holzhauser: No sir, no sir. They started it; I have never done anything
to them, I never will.
Mr. Carollo: I just cannot comprehend, if you have held it in the past in the
area where Main Highway is, why all of a sudden it is so dangerous to hold it
in that area.
Ms. Holzhauser: It is not all of a sudden, Mr. Carollo. It is the product of
about 18 months of careful study, one festival after we perceived it as dan-
gerous. I have had several people here who have been out on the streets, if
you want to hear from them. It is sudden; it is not unguided. It has been
a matter of deep and careful thought. By the way, I don't know what experience —
they have had, but part of my training has been in negotiation sir, and part
of it has been, believe it or not, in crowd control. So I am speaking from
past experience of many years. This isn't something I have thought up. Do _
you have any, I mean I am sorry, do you have any question for me?
Mr. Carollo: Let me make a statement.
Ms. Holzhauser: He is asking me the questions Maurice, and I...
Mayor Ferre: Joanne look ... the point is that we have been on this now for 45
minutes. Now he has a right. Any member of this Commission has a right to
ask questions or make any statements, but I would like to bring this to a close
in the next 20 minutes which is an hour of discussion, which I think is funny. —
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, I have only spent 2 minutes. Joanne spent about 20 and
they spent about 20 and you about 10.
Mayor Ferre: You can spend as long as you want.
Mr. Carollo: I just want to take another minute.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: What I have seen is going to develop here is that if you don't
come to a reasonable agreement between the both of you, we are going to have a
war for the next few years until one side or the other ends up winning or both
sides end up destroying each other, or destroying your festival. Joanne, if I
could see a reason, which I cannot, at least no logical reason why it has to be
held in McFarland - Bayshore Drive, I would say fine, I would go along with you,
but there is just no logical reason at all that I can buy why it has to be in
that area. What is going to happen is if they can't work that out, you know
what they are going to do, they are going to try,and I don't know if the votes
are here, and maybe the votes are here and maybe they aren't - they are going to
try to hold it iu the adjacent area then you are going to be competing against
each other and if they can't hold it at the same time, then for next year or
this year they are going to try to hold it the week before or the week after and
you are going to have a complete set of circumstance competing against each
other. They are not healthy.
Ms. Holzhauser: I would be willing any weekend.
Mr. Carollo: If you are not willing to bend at all Joanne, I tell you, then you
are being very unreasonable and you don't have my vote for this, nor will you
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have my vote for any additional monies to be funded. If on the one hand, these
people do not have any funds from the City of Miami if they hold any festivals;
you do. And I think as long as you are getting public funds, after all, those
public funds are coming from a majority of these people who live in the Grove,
they are not only paying taxes for their homes, but are paying taxes for their
businesses and I personally believe that if all these merchants did not have
there stores in the Grove. vour art festival would not have been a success in
the past, nor would it be one now. One of the main reasons these people cote
to the Grove is because of the businesses they have in the Grove.
Ms. Holzhauser: Mr. Carollo......
Mr. Carollo: In manv cases thev are business that are very unusual that you
don't find in anv other areas.
Ms. Holzhauser: If you don't see anv of the reasons that I have given you as
worthwhile. ,then there is nothing I can do about that and I would not do anv-
thing so tackv as to recite before this Commission the list of neoole who have
asked us to relocate. because we don't want to relocate.
Mr. Carollo: Well Joanne. this is going to have to be a decision that you are
going to have to make in the future..
Ms. Holzhauser: Not me, my board is.
Mr. Carollo: I guess the rest of the Commission is going to make up theirs,
but what I would like to do is ask the City Manager what his opinion would be
of the recommendations. Maybe he could be a mediator.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor & members of the City Commission, we have studied the proposed
two festival concept and we have had the Police Department in to review it in terms
of ability to respond and to handle pedestrian as well as the vehicular traffic
as a result of two festivals and I am informed by the Police Department that to
have two festivals with an expanded area, we could not manage properly the acti-
vities of both festivals as well as the fact that it would be very costly in terms
of additional manpower that would be needed as opposed to prior year's festivals.
It is our recommendation that the fesitval remain where it was in the past years
and that we continue the festival in that vein.
Mr. Carollo: You are recommending the festival to stay in the Main Highway,
Commodore Plaza area.
Mr. Cary: Exactly, with no expansion at all.
Mayor Ferre: Is that the Police Deparment recommendation:
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Ms. Forster: Mayor Ferre, I just turned over a large number of names where
the people want the festival in the Grove, and the Chamber of Commerce would be
very delighted to be the sponsor of it, and I think it should be there and if
the other people can have a festival somewhere else, let them have that too if
it is within the law, but right now I think it is a crucial matter. It is divid-
ing the people in Coconut Grove which shouldn't happen. We are happy people and
I that if you do give us a permit for the festival, we would appreciate it
very much to handle it, because I imagine the other people already have their
permit. I thank you very much and Mr. Bucolo would like
Mr. Carollo: My Gary, if I may ask, what and how many types of permits does this
Commission have to approve, or at least the City of Miami for that festival to be
in the red area.
Mr. Gary: There is the closing of the street permit. She has to get permis-
sion to close off all of the streets, make part of Main Highway and South Bay -
shore. It is on the resolution.
Mr. Carollo: I think it is simple. I think what this Commission has to do then
is, not to issue those permits for McFarland & Bayshore Drive and issue the per-
mits for both parties so either one or both could hold their festival in the green
area, and I think these people would...
Mayor Ferre: If that is the will of the majority, it is a very simple thing. You
just mcir e a motion and we vote on it and if three people on this Commission vote
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that way, that is the end of it.
Mr. Carollo: It is the only way that you are going to have some peace in the
Grove, Maurice. Otherwise, there is going to be a constant battle between them,
just a constant battle.
Mayor Ferre: Now you have your opinion, and I have mine. I think that if you do
that, you are going to have chaos, and I think you are going to be much better off
you know, following this thing.... Joanne I only really have one question of you.
Because you know, the records kept going "you do this and you do that". This is
not you, you have a board, don't you?
Ms. Holzhauser: Yes sir, and I have a couple of board members who would like....
Mayor Ferre: Who is the chairman of that board.
Mr. Holzhauser: Mr. Henry Welcher is.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Welcher, are you the chairman, or president? How many members
on your board?
Mr. Welcher: There are 14 on our board, and this was not a decision that we made
lightly.
Mayor Ferre: Was this debated on your board?
Mr. Welcher: Very thoroughly.
Mayor Ferre: Was it put to a vote?
Mr. Welcher: Yes it was.
Mayor Ferre: What was the result of the vote of the board?
Mr. Welcher: The vote was in favor of moving it.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, it isn't Joanne Holzhauser's decision.
Mr. Welcher: That is why it should be clear and this is what I tried to explain
in a meeting with the Chamber people on Monday night, that Ms. Holzhauser does
not make these decisions. She coordinates with the board and any major decision
like this is always made by a full vote of the board and it was this time. We
had full input from all parties on the board. We had started discussing this
I believe in May of 1980 about moving it.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we have got to bring this to a head now.
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Mr. Edward George Gerren: My name is Edward George Gerren. My address is
2750 Mac Farlane Road. I worked security at the festival last year for 2�
days. I was on my feet from 6:30 in the morning until 7:00 P.M. at night.
The area that the festival has been in is a very congested area but at the
same time has multiple entry points. There are entry points at the end of
Commodore Plaza, there are entry points at the end of Fuller, there are
entry points at the end of Main Highway. It iw very difficult to control
people coming into the area on bicycles, on rollerskates, with stereos,
high on dope. I spent 10 hours asking people to please get off of their
bicycle and not ride it through the festival area. If you can image a
stray bicycle roaming into $12,000,000 worth of art, there were many near
misses. Also, if there were any kind of medical problems, if a person
fainted, there is no way you can get an ambulance onto Main Highway without
going through a block of artists, absolutely none. This is the problem with
that area. It is a very congested area, it is very difficult to control as
far as people coming in. If you move the festival dorm on Bayshore you have
the whole section of the Mutiny the Women's Club area, Lums, all of the
business district basically blocking entry at those points so then all you
have to worry about is people coming in at the end of Mac Farlane where it
meets Main Highway and Grand Avenue or at the north end of Bayshore, other-
wise you have the bay blocking people off so they can't come in off the
water, it makes security much easier. Now, I have several friends of mine
who are merchants in the Grove. I know they are suffering this year. I
want them to do well with this festival and I think they will. I think
there will be plenty of spillover from the people down here who will want
to come up and have a meal in a restaurant, who want to come up and stroll
in the shops. I don't think their businesses are going to be that drastic-
ally affected and I hope that you will keep this in mind when you're making
this decision. All I know is last year I had a lot of problems personally
and the police had problems and next year is going to be even worse and I
hope you'll keep that in mind and this is the only reason that we have
asked tc move the festival.
Ms. J. R. Kaiser: My name is J. R. Kaiser. My address is 1919 N.W. 14th
Street and I am a board member of the Coconut Grove Association. As a mem-
ber, while I'm listening to the arguments pro and con for us to be able to
do this without competition, I would like the Commission and the Mayor to
consider that at our next meeting I am going to suggest that we do not have
an arti festival this year and that we find a location that is better for
us than this area. So maybe you all ought to consider that you will lose
everything instead of just part of something.
Mayor Ferre: This thing has not been concluded, I really don't think that
you would be very happy moving out of Coconut Grove and I don't think that the Grove
people....
Ms. Kaiser: we wouldn't, but I don't think that as a responsible member I
want to have it in a place where we can be at the mercy of an insecure posi-
tion. I'm one of the people who was on the street.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you have no guarantee of that, you're coming to con-
clusions a little bit before.
Ms. Kaiser: Well, I'm one of the people who brought up moving it because
of the problems with security. We have a concentration of people and as
some people do know, if you have a concentration of people like this, if
something happens in the middle it is a great deal of difficulty to get to
that person and event or situation. But if you have people strung out in
a long snake or whatever, a long line, you have the ability to cut off
some problem from the rest of the crowd and you have more - you can't even
say control, you have more influence on the crowd, there is no crowd con-
trol.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, we've got to bring this to a close. Spencer?
Mr. Spencer Meredith: My name is Spencer Meredith and I'll be very brief.
This reminds me a little bit of some of the things we went through last
year and historically it has been pointed out that there have been problems
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in previous years. V ere here before the Commission`ieally looking for a solu-
tion.
Mayor Ferre: Well, who is we, the Chamber?
Mr. Meredith: I think everybody here is here before the Commission looking for
a solution because we have very strong points of view on all sides. Just lis-
tening to it, I would like to propose my own personal suggestion as something
for you to consider when you're considering solutions. Would it be possible
to bring the Art Festival back part way into the main part of the Grove and
bring it on Main Highway in the green part of Main Highway and not on Fuller
and Commodore Plaza? That would somewhat of a compromise position between
keeping it where it is currently planned and bringing it all the way back in
on Commodore and Fuller. Just another thought, another suggestion. That
would allow traffic coming up from Old Cutler Road to come down and to turn.
and go down Commodore Plaza, down Grand Avenue and then out Mary Street.
Grand would still be clear, Commodore would still be clear and Fuller would
be clear but ybu would have at least part way back in the Grove, so that's
my suggestion. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, how about that?
Ms. Holzhauser: If you would like to hear, the artist who would be put in
that place I'm afraid would be very upset.
Mayor Ferre: All right, well let the Chairman...
Mr. Welcher: Your honor, this was not a brand new suggestion, Mr. Meredith
called me on Tuesday and presented this to me. I immediately called members
of my Board to try to get their input on this and to get how they would vote
on this, I called the people that were very much in favor of moving the
festival last year to see if there was any change in their vote and there was
not. The main reason is because this gets us right back in the same situation.
Main Highway is completely blocked, they are going to have the same congestion
problems, this is also going to run our festival out further which means that
you're going to have people that want to see the art and they're going to have
the problem. I still think we're so close to downtown Grove that anybody that
wants to shop is going to walk an extra....
Mayor Ferre: Look, you're repeating your position now, I will not allow any-
more repetition of things now. We've said it, if somebody has something new
to say that has not been said, otherwise we've got to bring this to a vote
one way or the other.
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, I want to clear the record on something before he speaks.
I would hate to disagree with the security director, but, Mr. Manager, didn't
you say that the Police Department were the ones who recommended the green
area, the Main Highway area?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: They felt that that was the better area?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I would like to go along with our Police Department, I
think they're a little better prepared. SEcond of all, the only other point
I would like to add, Maurice, you know, even what Spencer suggested, hold
half of it in Main Highway, half on Mac Farlane Road, that is even a sensi-
ble compromise. But my God, Joanne, it's either she gets it all or not.
Mr. Welcher: Mr. Carollo, that's not Joanne's decision, that's not made by
Joanne, i thought I made that clear when I told you that I called all the
board members and got their vote on this on Tuesday night and Wednesday.
Mayor Ferre: All right, make your last statement.
Mr. Bill Bucolo: I'm the dreaded Bill Bucollo from the Coconut Grove Cham-
ber. I live at 3034 Oak Avenue. Our major contention with the move, if it
must be, is that the 400,000 plus people who flow into the area during the
festival are going to spill into the village without any control, without
any structure, without any arrangements made, now Mr. Welcher has made il-
lusions to police coverage within the City, but there will be no structure
within the village proper and that is another fear that we have that hasn't
been brought out adequately and that is another reason why we want to stage
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a very loose, a very low keyed event on the streets if they, indeed, do
stay by Mac Farlane and Bayshore. Thank you, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we've heard both issues, the Chair is now open for
a motion from either side.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to make a motion that we abide by the
recommendation of our Police Department and that the Art Festival be given
permits to be held in the green area in that map, the Main Highway Section.
Mayor Ferre: For the record, Commodore Plaza, Fuller and Main Highway.
Mr. Carollo: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second to that motion? Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: (INAUDIBLE, NOT USING MICROPHONE)
Mayor Ferre: All right, further discussion?
Mr. Plummer: From what I understand, Joe, you stated... State it again so
I understand it. He's giving a compromise, your's was not.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, he's saying do it in the green area.
Mr. Carollo: Well, if we don't have the votes for the green area the next
motion will be the other one. You know, let's see what happens. I mean,
what I've tried to do is be reasonable.
Mr. Plummer: All right, Joe, tell me now what you're proposing is that
Joanne's group....
Mr. Carollo: What I am proposing is that Joanne's group, we'd better emphas-
ize which Joanne, we've got two Joanne's.
Mayor Ferre: Grove Street Fair.
Mr. Carollo: The Grove Street Fair, is that the name?
Mrs. Holzhauser: The Coconut Grove Arts Festival.
Mr. Carollo: The Coconut Grove Arts Festival be given permits to hold their
festival in the Main Highway, Commodore Plaza Fuller area, the green area in
that r„ap. And included in the motion is before they come back next year
they work out a compromise... never mind, forget that.
Mayor Ferre: See, he doesn't understand that, you'd better clarify, you'd
better get him, you'd better clarify it.... Peanuts, you're the one so get
it clarified, would you?
Mr. Carollo: No, Maurice, we've got two areas where they want to hold to
hold it at.... Look, the bottom line is that I think we're going to have
to reach and go for the compromise that Spencer suggested anyway. Let's,
you know, reach the bottom line and let's make a compromise. Either we have
the votes here or we don't, Maurice. Instead of making one motion and then
go to the other, let's just make the one motion then we reach a compromise,
I mean that should please everybody I hope, Joanne, and we hold it in the
Main. Highway and Mac Farlane and then you have the best of two worlds.
Mayor Ferre: Look, I think what you're saying is that it be held where it
has always been held, that's what you're saying. What the merchants want,
Commissioner Carollo is not....
Mr. Carollo: I realize that, Maurice, but what I'm going a step further in
saying is the following: That, you know, we try to compromise, Joanne, too.
Let's hold it partly where she wants to hold it and partly where it has
been held before.
Mayor Ferre: It has been held before in the place that you're saying is
what I'm trying to tell you, with all due respect, I don't want to argue
with you but Mac Farlane and Main Highway is where it has always been held.
See, so that's nothing new.
Mr. Carollo: But what is the exact area that you want it expanded to now?
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Mayor Ferre: See, Peanuts didn't explain it right to you.
Mr. Carollo: Right, you want to move it to the Bayshore Drive area.
Mayor Ferre: That's right, that's the only new area.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's not true. What they're trying to do is this, in
other words they had always gone back Main Highway in the past and they're
substituting the Main Highway area of the past by going up Bayshore. It is
an expansion to the east.
Mayor Ferre: Which is what Carollo is recommending.
Mr. Carollo: Did you use all of Mac Farlane last year or part of it?
Mayor Ferre: Always all of Mac Farlane, for 19 years.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, that is the motion, that you have Mac Farlane and
Main Highway.
Mayor Ferre: And Bayshore.
Mr. Carollo: No, no Bayshore.
Mayor Ferre: Now, last year it was Bayshore, Mac Farlane and Main Highway,
is that correct? And Fuller and Commodore. That's what last year was.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM AUDIENCE) Now, I'm sorry to disagree with you be-
cause I was there last year and the year before. Bayshore Drive was used
last year and the year before that up to the Mutiny. It started at the
Mutiny and it went all the way around the main street and up Commodore and
Fuller.
Mr. Carollo: The Mutiny is where exactly on that map?
Mayor Ferre: Half way up Bayshore, half way up to Mary street, it is about
in the middle. And what the merchants want, as I understand it is the same
as last year, is that right? Which is from the Mutiny on Bayshore Drive up
Mac Farlane, up Main, Commodore and Fuller.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. Will that preclude on the mer-
chants' part putting on a competing festival? .
INAUDIBLE STATEMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Mayor Ferre: Hey, you guys, I think you're going to be all right and you're
going to have the votes. I'm not voting with you because it is a matter of
principle and I've got that right, you know I've got the right to vote my
conscience. I think that these people have worked for 19 years to make this
.... But that's not your decision to make. You have no proprietary interest
in this thing, this is their thing. If you want to put on an art festival, _
I will support you as much as we support them. You put on an art festival,
as long as it is not on the same day, you know, just like we did with the
boat show.
INAUDIBLE STATEMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Mayor Ferre: On the same day? The two art shows?
Mrs. Holzhauser: Do you want to hear about Ann Arbor? Ann Arbor has gone
down, the jury part of it, for several years now for the very reason that
many artists will no longer subject themselves to going into a juried show when they have a thousand people on the outskirts taking the money.
Mayor Ferre: Joanne, we're not going to get into that because we have been
through that issue a hundred times and I'll tell you from my standpoint,
maybe I've heard this too long, I will never vote for having the two boat
fshows on the same day in the City of Miami because it is unfair and I will
not vote for having two art shows in Coconut Grove at the same time, I think
that is unfair. Now, if you want to have an art show I will support you
100%. You have your art show as long as it is not the same day and I think
we owe you as much support as they qet and you go do your own art show,
I've got no problems with that. (INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM AUDIENCE) Well,
4 up until this date you know just as well as I do that there is a Board of
Directors that has been running this thing for 19 years and they make decis-
ions and come to us and I cannot recall in 11 years that I have voted that
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I have ever voted differently than what they were recommending. Now, this
may be the first time that the City Commission will not do it that way.
INAUDIBLE COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE
Mr. Welcher: That's not necessarily true, all the community.
Mayor Ferre: Hey, listen, the merchants are entitled, you have an opinion.
That's right, you make your own festival. Hey, that's the same thing that =_
I told that fellow who came here on the boat show. He said, I thought
this boat show.... I said no, you want a boat show you get your own boat _
show and that's exactly what he did. ... Sir, if you want your Coconut
Grove Art Festival you have my support and what we do for them we do for you
and I will support you 100% and God bless you and I hope you do a better job
and I hope you have 500,000 people and I hope it is the best art show and I
hope we have two art shows. That's the best thing that could happen to Coco-
nut Grove. I'in for you.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Maurice, I'm going to take the same attitude that Joanne _
and her group has taken then, the original motion stands, the same place it
was held last year, it was seconded, let's have a vote.
Mayor Ferre: That's fine, there's a motion on the floor, it has been changed
which is that it be in the same place that it was last year.
Mr. Carollo: No, that was the original motion.
Mayor Ferre: The original motion was Mac Farlane and Main Highway, Commodore
and Fuller....
Mr. Carollo: Which was what the Police Department recommended which was that.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, now it goes along Bayshore up until the Mutiny which is
where it was last year, the same thing. All right? There's a motion. Is
that you second? Is there further discussion? Call the roll.
The preceding motion failed to pass by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Carollo and Mr. Perez.
NOES: Mr. Plummer, Mr. Dawkins and Mayor Ferre.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, let's go for a compromise motion then.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion.
Mr. Carollo: The compromise motion is that we give permits to both parties
to hold their different art festivals or activities at the same time in the
places that they both have asked for.
Mavor Ferre: Is there a second? Seconded by Perez, further discussion? Call
the roll. —
The preceding motion failed to pass by the following vote -
AYES: Mr. Perez and Mr. Carollo.
NOES: Mr. Dawkins, Mr. Plummer and Mayor Ferre.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further motions? If not, is there a motion now for
the approval of the Coconut Grove Art Festival in the areas as outlined in
the map from Mac Farlane to Bayshore Drive with all the pertinent permits,
etc., which is Item P39
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23. CLOSE CERTAIN STREETS: COCONUT GROVE ARTS FESTIVAL,
FEB. 19, 20, 21.
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, you know I'm not going to against the will of the major-
ity of the Commission, I made my motion, I lost, that's fine, but I will tell
you where I'm going to stand firm. I think since Joanne and her group stood
so firm with this I'm not about to give one cent of taxpayer's money then for
her to go ahead and do her thing. I would vote to give her the permits, the
area that she wants now since the majority of the Commission is going to be
in favor, I'll make that motion. But when she comes back asking for greens
I'm not going to be listening.
Mayor Ferre: You're entitled.
Mr. Carollo: I make a motion to approve it in the place she wants it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this is item 39, is that correct, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-26
A RESOLUTION IN CONNECTION WITH THE COCONUT GROVE ARTS FESTIVAL,
ON FEBRUARY 19, 20 AND 21, 1982, CLOSING CERTAIN STREETS TO
THROUGH TRAFFIC ON SAID DATES DURING SPECIFIED HOURS AND ESTAB-
LISHING A PEDESTRIAN MALL; SAID STREET CLOSING SUBJECT TO ISSU-
ANCE OF PERMITS BY THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS; WAIVING ONE- —_
HALF OF THE RENTAL FEE AND GRANTING PERMISSION FOR THE USE OF
PEACOCK PARK SUBJECT TO PAYMENT BY COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION,
INC. OF ALL RELATED COSTS; ALLOCATING MONIES FROM SPECIAL PRO- _
GRAMS AND ACCOUNTS - QUALITY OF LIFE PROGRAM TO COVER THE COST OF SAID WAIVER, WITH THE ASSOCIATION TO PAY FOR TWENTY-THREE OFF -
DUTY POLICE OFFICERS AND TWO SERGEANTS AND ONE LIEUTENANT; PROVID-
ING THAT THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER PARKING LOT AND THE
CITY EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT BE MADE AVAIALBLE ON SATURDAY AND SUN -
DAY; PROVIDING THE USE OF TWENTY THREE DUMPSTERS, AND FIFTY TOTE
BARRELS TO BE SERVICED DAILY, INCLUDING SUNDAY, SUBJECT TO PAY-
MENT OF CLEANUP COSTS BY COCONUT GROVE ASSOCIATION, INC.; ESTAB-
LISHING THE AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS DURING THE FESTIVAL
PERIOD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: To this lady who looks kind of distressed and upset, no, not
you, there is a lady back there who is on your board and who I understand
from her own words has made motions in the past to move the festival out of
Coconut Grove, may I say to you that this Commission and this City has been
extremely generous and supportive and I think that this vote again proves
thatwe have been supportive and that you have the backing of the City and
I hope that we can put to rest all of this talk about moving out of Coconut
Grove. This has been the Coconut Grove Festival, now yoj have done a wonder-
ful job and I think that the community is grateful to all of you for doing
it. It has been your work, it hasn't been the Chamber of Commerce or the
merchants that have worked on this and has spent upteen hours and years and
years of putting this together but th�y�have been participants and they of 1yt32
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are a part of the community, they are taxpayers and they are people who
are supporters even though you have fights with them all the time. I would
hope that you would find ways, we've had these fights for years on end, every
year I hear variations of it. I would hope that you would walk a little
extra mile, that you would open the door, that you would be as supportive
of their interests because they are affected too. And to the merchants that
walk out of here feeling that they have lost, if you come back here with
your own art festival, you organize it and you do the work, you send the
mailing lists out, you get the people to cooperate and I don't know about
anybody else, but you have my vote to support you 100% and I think it would
be the greatest thing in the world if we were to have two art festivals,
one jury and one open festival, I think you've got a winner there and I'll
support you all the way on it.
Mr. Welcher: Mr. Mayor, I'd like just to tell you that that statement
does not reflect the feeling of our board, our board wants to stay in the
Coconut Grove Area and I think it was said in the heat of the moment and
I know this person well enough to know that she really doesn't feel that
way most of the time either.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Is there anything else?
Mrs. Holzhauser: Do you want the housekeeping items that go along with that?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, let's get all of those done now.
Mrs. Holzhauser: We'd like to have permission to have large signs painted to
be placed at all entrances stating "No bikes, skates, dogs, other animals or
snakes allowed within the boundaries", this is at the suggestion of the Police
Department that we need large signs saying this. -
Mr. Carollo: Who will be paying for those signs, Joanne?
Mrs. Holzhauser: We will.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, that's fine.
Mrs. Holzhauser: That we be allowed to place vendors in Bayfront Park, which
we've done for the past two years, and by the way, Mr. Carollo, that's one
of the ways I pay the bills is with the vendors, that Mr. Boccio who is under
contract with the City of Miami as a vendor.....
Mayor Ferre: Do you want us to do all of these things together or one at a
time?
Mrs. Holzhauser: I don't know, how do you want them? It doesn't matter to
me.
Mayor Ferre: All right, go ahead.
Mrs. Holzhauser: That Mr. Boccio who is under contract to vend in Peacock
Park, I don't put vendors in Peacock Park, I would appreciate it since my
vendors pay quite a bit for their places, I'm not asking Mr. Boccio to pay
us any money, but I would like it if he could be required to follow the same
rules as my vendors, that is go in the same location and not have stacks of
cans and drinks, my vendors have to be within a booth.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have any problems with that, Howard?
Mr. Gary: I don't fully understand what she is talking about.
Mr. Holzhauser: Well, he stands out in the street with his hot dog stand ant
rows and rows of cans and bottles and jars and I would like him to be with
r.iy :):.hi:-, -vc ndors with a tidy stand, it is just as simple as that. I'm not
asking him to pay us any money, I'm just asking him to clean up the act.
I'm not trying to prevent him in any way being there, I just would like him
to be under the same rules.
Mr. Gary: As long as it doesn't violate our agreement with him, sure.
Mr. Carollo: Okay.
i Mrs. Holzhauser: That the City continues to purchase two works of art for
$500 each, those are not purchased from us, no money goes to us at all, they
are hanging upstairs all over City Hall and most of them have increased
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dramatically in valul. I think some of you are enjoying the fruits of
the Coconut Grove Arts Festival. We need to use all of the Glass House
Recreation Center, we would like to pay for a City employee to be there
for the whole three days so that we can use the phone, in other words we don't want the responsibility of the phone, we'd just like to use it
and we'll pay one City employee or two if they overlap, to be there all
three days.
Mr. Carollo: Joanne, you'd better take it a step at a time.
Mrs. Holzhauser: All right, if you want me to.
Mr. Carollo: We've got one now that is going to cost us money, it's
$1,000 if I'm correct, $500 for each art work.
Mrs. Holzhauser: It's coming from something that last year was called the
Quality of Life Fund.... It doesn't go to us.
Mr. Gary: Vice -Mayor Carollo, with all these nitty gritty details, why
doesn't she submit her list to me and I'll be able to make those insig-
nificant decisions instead of wasting your time.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, why don't you do it that way?
Mrs. Holzhauser: I'll be glad to, but I have one last one. We would —
request the remainder of the amount which the City of Miami Festival Com-
mittee recommended, $2,700 or the waiver of the license fees for our vendors.
Mayor Ferre: All right, keep that separate because Carollo said he wants
to vote against that and he is, of course, entitled to.
Mrs. Holzhauser: Well, Mr. Gary says these are housekeeping items that I
can deal with with him.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I realize that, but up until now I don't think they're
controversial, that last one might be controversial.
Mrs. hulziiauser: all right.
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Mrs. Holzhauser: No, I'm not asking it for us, I'm asking that the City con-
tinue purchasing two pieces of part from the artists at the festival which
hang upstairs in City Hall.
Mr. Carollo: Where upstairs, I haven't seen them.
Mayor Ferre: Oh yes.
Mrs. Holzhauser: Meredith Miller was right inside that first bay, most of
the art you have upstairs is from there. We don't purchase it and we don't
pick it, your committee does.
Mayor Ferre: There is a committee that picks it and so on and so forth.
Now, I'll tell you up until the money part let's do those. Do we need a
resolution on that or not? I don't think so. Now, with regards to the
money part, both the $1,000 purchase of the art, do we have a problem with
that one?
Mr. Carollo: How long have we been doing this for?
Mr. Gary: I think for about three or four years. I think we take it out of
the Recreation Department.
Mayor Ferre: No, we've been doing it longer than that.
Mrs. Holzhauser: Longer than that because you've got a lot of paintings
upstairs.
Mr. Carollo: Where will the money be coming from?
Mr. Gary: We take it ouf Leisure Services' Budget, I'm sure there are a
lot of departments that need some types of paintings, most of them have
been in City Hall.
Mrs. Holzhauser: And they do inc.re%in value.
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Mr. Carollo: I would vote for it only one one condition, that there is
some specific departments in the City that are in need of some kind of
art.
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Holzhauser: The Festival Committee recommended that we receive an
amount and the staff cut ::s down for reasons that were absolutely erroneous,
they said, Dr. Lizaso assumed that we were using it for administrative costs
which is absolutely unfounded so we're just asking....
Mayor Ferret You're asking for an additional $2,000.
Mrs. Holzhauser: We're asking for what the Festival Cocnnittee recommended,
$2,700.
Mr. Carollo: .'Where did the 10 or $11,000 you mentioned before come from?
Mrs. Holzhauser: The $11,700 was what the Festival Committee recommended,
sir. The staff, Dr. Lizaso cut me to $9,000.
Mayor Ferret She's got $9,000.
Mr. Carollo: Which has been given to her already?
Mayor Ferret Yes.
Mrs. Holzhauser: which goes back to the City for services.
Mayor Ferret She wants another $2,700, that's what she's asking for nor.•.
Did I state that correctly or am I wrong?
Mrs. Holzhauser: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: No deals, I've learned from you, no deals.
Mayor Ferre: They've gotten $9,000 from the adjusted budget that was cut
down.
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferret They're now asking for an additional $2,700 because that brings
them up to what the original recommendation was which was $11,700. Is that
correct:
Mr. Garv: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferret So what this additional $2,700, is that right?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferret Now, that's what you said you were opposing, is that right?
Mrs. Holzhauser: Could I suggest, Mr. Carollo says no deals, but could I
suggest what the other problem is?
Mr. Carollo: That doesn't mean you can't cut one over there.
Mrs. Holzhauser: I hope so. Last year the problem came up which the City
attempted to solve by putting a resolution for $30 a piece for vendor's
licenses. We've tried to work this out repeatedly time and time and time
again, I still think there is a way to work it out. In the mean time, we're
faced .... please, sir. we're faced with the reality that....
Mayor Ferret Joanne, I don't know about anybody else, but you don't have
me on that one because Howard says it is against the law.
Mrs. Holzhauser: I understand, but I would like to tell you what I am going
to have to do. I don't want you all to say I did this behind your back. I
am now going to have to ask each one of our artists and each one of our
artists and each one of our vendors to pay the $30 and this has been a sub-
Dect of poor publicity in the past, I'm not threatening you but I'm telling
you I have to tell them they have to pay it and this has generated much hard-
ship in other cities and you will get some comments on it.
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Mayor Ferre: Well,lhat's the way the ball bounces. Howard, do you have any
recommendations on this?
Mr. Gary: No, I'm not going to touch that one with a ten -foot pole.
Mayor Ferre: They're asking for the money and she says that otherwise they're
going to have to charge all the artists $30 for a vendor's license or what-
ever.
Mrs. Holzhauser: You will, not me because I don't have $12,000 to cover it,
particularly if Mr. Carollo won't grant me the $2,700.
Mr. Gary: Well no, she incurs the expense, the liability is yours, it is
not the City of Miami's.
Mrs. Holzhauser: No, sir, it is our artist's have to buy licenses from the -
City of Miami:
Mr. Gary: Well, you know, they've got to pay that and we cannot give it
back to you.
Mrs. Holzhauser: I don't want it, I just want you to waive it.
Mayor Ferre: Joanne, did they pay for it last year?
Mrs. Holzhauser: No, sir, you waived it.
Mayor Ferre: And the year before that?
Mrs. Holzhauser: There wasn't one the year before that. May I tell you one
more thing? Mr. Burns tells me that we are one of the few festivals with a
large amount of people who pay it. I don't even want to say the percentage,
but he tells me that a large number of festivals and vendors in the City of
Miami do not pay this fee, we did.
Mayor Ferre: If we waived it last year, why is it a illegal to waive it
this year?
Mr. Gary: Becuase we shouldn't have waived it last year. You see, you know,
she got the benefit last year, she knew it was improper last year....
Mrs. Holzhauser: No, sir.
Mr. Gary: No, we talked to you about that, Joanne.
Mrs. Holzhauser: No, sir, I didn't even know it wasn't proper.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, we cannot waive the license.
Mayor Ferre: All right, that's final.
Mr. Gary: Now, the issue becomes whether or not she charges her artists more
or whether you want to give her $2,700. If the City Commission says they
want to give her $2,700 then obviously we have to find other things to cut.
Mrs. Holzhauser: That's not the $2,700 I'm talking about.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that, it's more than that because $30 times all of
the artists which is $12,000. But the point is that you're asking this City
Commission for funds. You went to the Festival Committee. The Festival Com-
mittee recommended $11,700. You've been cut to $9,000. You're asking for
an additional $2,700. However, you said that you would accept, in lieu of
that, the waiving of the fee. Howard Gary -says you can't waive the fee be-
cause that's illegal. ....
Mrs. Holzhauser: What you did last year was waive the fee, but I discovered
after I had been in the hospital and at home for &month that what you all
did was pay it from the contingency fund. I was never told that it was not
legal, this was arranged with a meeting with Mr. Grassie who was then the
City Manager and the notes should be very clear that it was done this way.
Mayor Ferre: What's the will of this Commission? We've got to get on with
other issues. Go ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: I just can't see us waiving fees when we just turned down the
merchants who we tax. OQ
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Mrs. Holzhauser: All right, I'll withdraw my request that you waive the
fee, but I would like to make one request, that the City re-examine the —
policy that was established last year cif charging everybody a $30 vendor's
fee and make it possible for everybody in the City to be legal and not
have half the people not paying it and the rest of us doing it, that's all.
Mr. Carollo: Well, as long as we don't have to pay any money, Howard,
examine it all.
Mayor Ferre: You don't have any takers on that, Joanne, here.
Mrs. Holzhauser: I said I'll withdraw it.
Mayor Ferre: Okay. Now, the only question before us is whether or not we
give you the additional $2,700 which is what the committee recommended and
it is up to tt}is Commission, if somebody wants to make a motion and if some-
body doesn't that's the end of it.
Mr. Carollo: Where is Mendez at? I want to see the exact list where the
committee recommended the way it did.
Mayor Ferre: Mendez got his and he's gone to celebrate.
Mrs. Holzhauser: it was a recommendation and I would like to point out that
other festivals that were recommended for smaller amounts or for zero by the
committee were given money by Dr. Lizaso and that's why I'm asking for the
$2,700.
Mayor Ferre: All right, going once, anybody want to make that motion, twice,
going three times.
Mrs. Holzhauser: You're going to send me to the poor house.
Mr. Carollo: You look pretty healthy, Joanne.
Mayor Ferre: You came out a winner today so don't complain too much.
Mrs. Holzhauser: I would like you to know that I have a whole lot of those
posters and some gorgeous postcards that we're donating to the City of Miami
in return for your favors to us. Thank you.
24. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ERNY FANOTTO REGARDI'IG TURNING OVER OF
CITY CYVNED FACILITIES TO THE SPORTS AUTHORITY.
Mayor Ferre: The Taxpayer's League of Miami and Dade County, Erny Fanotto.
I think I remember that name from before. All right, Mr. Fanotto.
Mr. Erny Fanotto: Erny Fanotto is my name and I'm President of the Taxpayers'
League of Miami and Dade County. Honorable Mayor and Members of the Commis-
sion, first I would like to start off by saying that this here Sports Author-
ity, the stadium is going to cost, they claim theirself between 720 and 760
million dollars and it's not pennies. And I think you people have an obliga-
tion to reappraise it. Mayor, I also want to tell your new Commissioner, Mr.
Dawkins, if you don't mind, Mr. Dawkins and Mr. Perez how they intend to get
the money and I want to analyze that very clear. I want to start off by say-
ing as far as the Orange Bowl is concerned, gentlemen, you can't turn over
the Orange Bowl to them without compensation. You can sell it, you can trade
it or you can use that money to build a new stadium but you can't turn it
over without compensation. Now, even if you turn it over to them, even if
you sell it to them - Mayor, when you get ready I'll start. No, I want to
wait until you're here. I don't think half of you fellows knows whats going
on up there outside of Plummer and he's not there all the time. Plummer,
while he is gone I'm going to tell you something, for a businessman this is
a kiddie show up there. I'd just like to start off by saying that there is
a law that covers general oblige:i n bonds and revenue bonds. Now, even if
you folks do sell the stadium and want to buy bonds who are you selling it
to? You're selling it to a Sports Authority that has no assets and they
won't get any assets unless general obligation. bonds are voted or revenue
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bonds, so if you're going to give them the stadiu, they have no assets.
Where are they going? And I also think that you folks made a big error
when you accepted the conditions that you were to have your Sport Authority
members. You know what that says? You're allowed to have two Sport Author-
ity mambers providing you give them the Orange Bowl by 1983. That is some
deal, isn't it? Commissioner Perez and Commissioner Dawkins, I want you to
know that. In other words we're trading two people on the Sports Authority
if we give away the Orange Bowl. That's some business deal isn't it? And
you know what they say? And in 1983 if you don't turn it over they'll have
to resign.
Mayor Ferre: Can I have anything to say as to who we trade? This is like
trading in a football team or a baseball team...
Mr. Fanotto: Well, if you don't mind if I finish, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: No, I don't mind.
Mr. Fanotto: Commissioner Plummer, I want you to hear this. Here is where
they say they're going to get the money, $11,000,000. The manager and owner
of Jai Alai says that they can get $11,000,000 of the money they turned over
to the State. Now, they don't have any more chance of getting that than the
man in the moon because I want to tell you why. The author of the Race Track
Bill was......
Mr. Carollo: Hey, hey, don't mention that name now.
Mr. Fanotto: Well, anyway I'll get his name in a minute. Anyway, he turned
it over, the bill went through with one condition, that every county has the
same - Dan Scheppel was the author of the bill. Now the bill went through
with this condition, that every county gets the same amount of money.
Mayor Ferre: One sixty-seventh.
Mr. Fanotto: We don't get one cent more even though most of the race tracks
are here. But that is the condition and it had to be through referendum.
Now, for them to say, this gentleman comes up and says - ..... Well, let
me tell you what the procedure has got to be, that they have to go through
a referendum of the whole State and they have to vote on it to rescind it.
The Legislature and Senate cannot do that because all the counties voted on
it and all the counties have to vote against it. So they're not going to
get that $11,000,000. Now, we're going to the skybox and here is the biggest
rip-off I ever heard of. In Texas in 1972 when conditions were fairly good
and we didn't have inflation and we didn't have a high prime rate like we
have now they said that they can sell $50,000,000 of sky boxes. Now, they
think they can sell sky boxes here for $200,000 or $250,000. Gentlemen,
with the condition that corporations are in today and businessmen, they're
not going to get it, they're not going to sell just a few of them at 200 or
$250,000 but yet they claim they're going to get a lot of money for that.
You know as well as I do they're not going to but yet they come up with
these crazy things. Now, in addition to that, they want Broward County to
pay for half of it. I don't know if you folks are familiar with what is
taking place in Broward County, they're having a lot of tax trouble just
like we're having here and they had a petition recalling the Commissioners
because taxes were too high. Well, I'm going to ask you this question.
Do you think the people in Broward County are going to vote for half of
a $720,000,000 referendum with the financial condition and high taxes the
way they are today? You've got to be out of your cotton picking mind if
you think so. So they won't have any money. So ever, if you do want to
turn over the Orange Bowl to them isn't that silly? When you turn it over
to somebody that won't have any assets. Now, there is a law, as I said,
governing this and I'm going to read it to you. Mayor, I want you to hear
this ruling, I want you to hear the law that governs this here. (1) Section
163.387 contains a final disclaimer. Revenue Bonds issued under the provis-
ion of this part shall not be deemed to constitute a debt, liability or
obligation of the local governing body or the State or any political sub-
division thereof or a pledge of the faith and credit of the local governing
body or the State or any political subdivision thereof but shall be pay-
able solely from the revenue provided therein. I want you folks to under-
stand that. All such revenue bonds shall contain on the face thereof, a
statement to the effect that the agency shall not be obligated to pay the
same or the interest thereon except from the revenue of the agency held
or generated for that purpose and that neither the faith nor the credit
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nor the taxing power of the local governing body, county or state is pledged
to pay, is to the payment of the principal or the interest of such bonds.
I hope you folks digested that. It is clearly clear that the bed tax on
franchise tax cannot be pledged nor can any other source of revenue be tapped
to retire their revenue bonds. They must sink or swim on their ability to
generate sufficient revenue to self -liquidate, no other sources permissable.
In plain words, they can't reach out and use any franchise tax money or any
other tax moneys, that's the assets of the taxpayers. The recent case of
the Florida Supreme Court on the Miami Beach Redevelopment Agency clearly
spells it out and this is a similar one. In that case, the trial court
through Judge Testa ruled that no other pledge or source was contemplated by
the statute. The incidental private/commercial use is permissible. This
landmark case should be read by all including the attorneys. A referendum
is required if other revenue or public pledges of ad valorem tax is author-
ized. In plain words, if they want to tap the franchise tax money or the
bed tax money'they've got to through the revenue bonds but a referendum,
the taxpayers'have the last say. Now, here is the finish. The clarion call
of this case can and should not be lightly ignored by our public officials.
If there is the slightest possibility that public obligation shall come
into play then the Florida Constitution mandates a referendum. The public must have
voice before their property is pledged. That means that the taxpayers have
the last say. And gentlemen, I want you to know one thing, you're an elected
employee of the taxpayers and you are not to give no Orange Bowl away with-
out a vote of the p_ople and I'm going to tell you one thing, if you do,
I'm going to go to court and get an injunction blocking it and have the law
right to the letter abided by. Gentlemen, I have no more to say except I
did want to say this here, Commissioner Perez and Commissioner Dawkins, I
didn't congratulate you on getting elected and I do and Mayor, you got
elected as well.
Mayor Ferre: You didn't congratulate me either, aren't you going to con-
gratulate me?
Mr. Fanotto: I just said I want to congratulate you too, Mayor. So anyway,
that's it and don't be foolish, they're not ever going to build the stadium,
Broward County is never going to vote for it and the public is not going to
vote for it so don't fool the public. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre; Of course not. Arriva derchi. Okay, Ern;, thank you.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: IRVING MC KNIGHT DISPLAYED A NEW BANNER DEPICTING
THE LIKENESS OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., TO BE
USED IN THE PARADE COMMEMORATING HIS BIRTHDAY.
25. CLOSE STREETS IN CONNECTION WITH INTERNATIONAL FAIR IN THE
ORANGE BOWL JANUARY 21 THROUGH JANUARY 31, 1982.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-27
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVING A REQUEST MADE BY
LUIS SABINES, LATIN AMERICAN CHANBER OF COMMERCE, FOR CLOSURE
OF A CITY STREET IN CONNECTION WITH THE HOLDING OF THE INTER-
NATIONAL FAIR IN THE ORANGE BOWL TO BE HELD JANUARY 21 THROUGH
JANUARY 31; PROVIDED SUCH FAIR MEETS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
RECOMMENDATIONS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-r;a}'Or Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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Mr. Luis Sabines: 0. Mayor .and members of the Citommission, I don't
know if that move approved what we presented here for the carnival, the
bingo and games. The bingo and games like the church has in the festivals.
Mr.. Gary: We can't do that, it is against the law.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have to ask the City Attorney whether or not
it is legal.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'll give you a better one than that, I make a motion
that they be approved to put on Bingo just like the Church.
Mr. Sabines: Right, just like a church.
Mr. Gary: You can't violate your own ordinance, he said.
Mr. Knox: Section 38-44 of the Code provides that no person or organiza-
tion shall conduct raffles, bingo games, card games with money or drawings
for prizes or participate in any other form of gambling within park limits
whether they are for charity or otherwise.
Mr. Plummer: Well, it's not a park, it is a parking lot.
Mr. Knox: It is the Orange Bowl facility, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: The man says we can't do it. That's never stopped Luis in the
past but he says we can't do it.
Mr. Sabines: It's just because of the place?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, it is a public park.
Mr. Sabines: If next year we move to the dog track we can do it according
with the law?
Mr. Plummer: According to him he said yes. According to our lawyer, do you
understand what he said?
Mr. Sabines: Yes, I understand.
Mr. Plummer: He legally cannot approve it. Now, is there anything else
besides closing of the streets and Bingo? Beer?
Mayor Ferre: Beer we can approve. Oh, there is an ordinance against it?
Well, then that's the end of that, no beer.
Mr. Plummer: I don't believe it.
Mayor Ferre: Well hey, the law is the law, do you want to change the law?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minute, Plummer, weren't you the one that was screaming
this morning about the selling of beer in the Orange Bowl and the 15 yaar old
kids have been drinking the beer and the pot and what have you? And now
you're going to tell me that you were going to present a motion for beer?
Mr. Plummer: I didn't say I was going to present a motion, I'm asking a
question.
Mr. Carollo: Boy, it must be a full moon out.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, all of you would know. Is it a part of the ordinance or
a law?
Mayor Ferre: Into the record, please.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It is an o:dj nance governing carnivals and it is done
through the Zoning Department and it has a stipulation in there of no gambling
and no beer.
Mayor Ferre: What else have you got?
Mr. Gary: That's it.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Sorg, you're on Item 14.
Mr. Carollo: Stuart, excuse me, is there going to be a need for the Commis-
sion to vote on anything that you're going to present?
Mr. Stuart Sorg: I'm Stuart Sorg, Chairman of the City of Miami's Waterfront
Board. I'd like to bring you up to date on about 4 issues and ask for your
support on a couple more. First of all, at the last Commission Meeting
about the naval vessels coming into Bicentennial Park, I think I need to get
together with.Mr. Gary and decide what portion of that bulkhead we're talk-
ing about. I will be going up to Norfolk to talk to the Sinclantflt Fleet and
the Srflnt who handles the vessels so we need to decide what is available.
The second thing is on the Florida Boating Improvement Act wher we are going
to try to get some of those funds, I will be going to the County Commission
some time next month. I would like to also ask the Commission, if they would,
to prepare a letter of appreciation to the Coconut Grove Sailing Club's
Orange Bowl Regatta Committee. As we talk about crime and the problems of
the City of Miami here was one of the most magnificent factors, over 200
young college kids came down from all over the country even though Time
Magazine had come out with those unfavorable articles, they came that's the
best publicity we can probably get.
Mayor Ferre: Stuart, just tell my office to call the department and that's
something that ....
Mr. Sorg: Could we make the presentation here one day?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, of course, that's a routine matter.
Mr. Sorg: All right, sir. Following a motion of the Waterfront Board, we
would like very much, if we could, to have the City prepare an audit follow-
ing the Feat Marwick audit to the City on the marina funds, those prior to
January and those funds since then. There seems to be no identification as
to what those funds really are. We need to have that also done. We would
also like at this particular time for the City....
Mayor Ferre: You don't need a resolution for that.
Mr. Gary: They've got to do that any way.
Mr. Sorg: Can that come from just the Manager's Office, a separate audit
for those funds?
Mr. Gary: We have to do it anyway.
Mr. Sorg: All right, that's fine. The next thing is the live aboards, at
a City Commission motion, we were determining whether live aboards should
remain at the City marina facilities, at the Waterfront Board, it was their
unanimous decision that live aboards should remain here. There is a City
definition that a live aboard is someone who remains or, board a vessel dur-
ing 10 days of a 60 day period so it is already defined in the Code itself
and I just would like to have a motion by the Commission that live aboards
can remain at the City facilities.
Mayor Ferre: You don't need a motion, it already exists. What you need a
motion to is to remove it which I am very strongly inclined in favor of but
I will certainly since I made a commitment to you to follow the Waterfront
Board - was that a Waterfront Board motion?
Mr. Sorg: That's a motion.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm stuck then. In other words I've got to bite my
tongue or: it. Okay.
Mr. Sorg: We just want to say that live aboards can remain at City of
Miami marina facilities and we need your support on that.
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Mayor Ferre: Is houn the Waterfront Board?
Mr. Sorg: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, did he recuse himself from voting or am I going to have
to get Janet Cooper after him for having a conflict of interest?
Mr. Sorg: No, sir, he was voting.
Mayor Ferre: He voted? That's not fair.
Mr. Sorg: But it was a unanimous vote, sir.
Mayor Ferre: I see, and you didn't influence him at all, is that it?
Okay.
Mr. Sorg: We would like Commission support that live aboards can remain
at the City marinas.
Mayor Ferre: Stuart, you already have this Commission's support leqallv.
The only way that they cannot live aboard is if this Commission specifi-
cally made a motion to reverse that. You don't need to do anything.
Mr. Sorg: But what I'm saying is in November the Commission made a motion
saying that at the following meeting we would determine whether or not
live aboards would remain at the City of Miami's facilities.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, and since the Waterfront Board now recommended that
live aboards remain, since I was the guy that stirred up the hornet's nest,
I'm telling you that I will live up to my previous commitment which was
that I will follow the Waterfront Board's recommendation. Now, if some-
body else wants to throw out the live aboards they can do it but unless
somebody makes a motion otherwise, I think a non -action on our part is
concurrence with the continuation of the existing policy.
Mr. Sorg: All right, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, as I recall, our policy is that the management company
would determine the amount or percentage of live aboards.
Mr. Gary: No, we decide that.
Mr. Sorg: The City makes that decision.
Mayor Ferre: I think we've only got what, 24 now?
Mr. Sorg: There are 70 at Dinner Key and there are 16 or so at Miamarina.
But under the new resolution that we just came up with there are bound to
be some more because we have now defined what a live aboard is.
Mayor Ferre: Well, look, if one of you wants to bring it up I will take
it up but as far as I'm concerned, you know.
Mr. Sorg: Can we just drop it the way it is and stand with the fact that
they are....
Mayor Ferre: Unless somebody wants to bring it up the policy stands as is.
Mr. Sorg: We can assume there is support then. On the issue of the sur-
charge which was also brought up at the same November Meeting, we have
formed a committee of City people and also live aboards and also the Water-
front Board, we'll come back in a month or so on that particular issue.
Now, about six months ago I presented a resolution from the Coconut Grove
Development Authority supported by resolution from the Miami Marine Council
and also a letter from the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce asking that
the City establish a City of Miami Police Marine Patrol. We are one of
those few cities that are first class cities actually in the world that
has no waterborne marine patrol. What I would like to do today is I would
like for the City Commission to appropriate $40,000 to ride on top of the
$80,000, I assume it is coming from the State, that we may get this Police
Marine Patrol in operation, I think it is a small amount of money to ask
for for a vital police requirement. I think there have been two crimes
recently around the waterfront, we've got....
Mayor Ferre: Stuart, does that have the support of the Police Chief?
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Mr. Sorg: Yes, sir.S
Mayor Ferre: Is that on the record, Mr. Manager? He's asking for $40,000
in addition to the 80 that is part of Item number what was it, 39?
Mr. Gary: No, that's not in agreement with the Police Chief because he
is recommending 80.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Sorg says that the City needs an additional $40,000.
Mr. Sorg: For the operational expenses to run the boats.
Mr. Plummer: Bring that with Item 22 or 21.
Mayor Ferre: Is that part of the recommendation of the administration on
this?
Mr. Gary: No', the administration is recommending 80.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what else have you got?
Mr. Gary: Compared to zero, we're moving ahead.
Mr. Plummer: We're not doing anything on it, it's like the first item, we're
taking no action.
Mr. Sorg: Well, how do we get some action taken on it?
Mr. Plummer: We recruit the live aboards and they become the Marine Patrol.
Mayor Ferre: Seriously, you've got to work with the administration on this.
We can't just arbitrarily, it has to have the Police Chief's support put
into it.
Mr. Gary: We agreed that we're going to put $80,000, we're putting $80,000,
Mr. Sorg is saying because it comes from the State he still wants us to put
our 30 in or put 30 of the City's money. You know money is money, it is all
taxpayers' money. We are recommending $60,000.
Mr. Sorg: The requirement, Mr. Mayor, is $120,000....
Mayor Ferre: Whose requirement?
Mr. Sorg: There's $80,000 for the boats and you've got operating expenses
to run the boats.
Mayor Ferre: Stuart, if the Police Chief of the City of Miami and the Man-
ager come up with that conclusion you have my commitment that it has my sup-
port. But if it doesn't have the Police Chief's support and the Manager is
not recommending it, I can't arbitrarily come out and say we're going to
give them $40,000; I mean it's got to be documented.
Mr. Sorg: Well, we know that when the Marine Patrol was started in Fort
Lauderdale they sold boats that the confiscated and raised $270,000. All
I'm trying to say is how to I proceed with it because I know that's what is
needed?
Mayor Ferre: You proceed with the administration. That is not something
that the Commission can unilaterally and arbitrarily do without the con-
currence of the administration.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, in this regard, in all due respect to Mr. Sorg, I
think with regard to the responsibility of the Marine Patrol he has ful-
filled it. Now, he has developed a plan, we've got the budget, it is now
up to us to implement it. Now we have no problems sitting down with Mr.
Sorg to explain things and to hear his side.
Mayor Ferre: All right. what else do you have, Stuart?
Mr. Sorg: The last thing I've got before me is two contracts, one on the
Miami Yacht Club and one on the Miami Outboard Club. Here are two clubs
that operate on City land, one contract was dated 1980, the other is dated
1979. We're talking about a loss in revenues to the City of Miami of
about $55,000, Now the Coconut Grove Sailing Club has entered into their
contract and they are paying $25,000.
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Mayor Ferre: Stua you are absolutely correct an0the Miami News and
Bill Gjebre is totally correct, Mr. Manager, we've got to correct that
immediately. So I would like to, unless members of the Commission stop
me, instruct you to immediately finalize negotiations and bring this on
an equal basis to the City Commission, hopefully by the hext meeting so
that we have apples to apples. I think that you're absolutely right.
It is unfair for us to be charging Coconut Grove and these other clubs -
funds for these Watson Island Clubs to be getting away on the premise
that we're going to build a theme park there.
Mr. Gary: Do you want this retroactive?
Mayor Ferre: If you can get it, I don't know whether you can make it
retroactive, I doubt it, I doubt if you could make it retroactive.
Mr. Sorq: Make it retroactive. —
Mayor Ferre:' You can't, Stuart.
Mr. Sorg: Even if it has to go on a monthly basis it should be done.
Mr. Plummer: Somebody is forgetting something somewhere here. You might
recall that both the Miami Yacht Club and the Outboard Club wanted a con-
tract and were willing to pay rent.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we're getting to that point now.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, but Maurice, the reason they were not given a contract
was the theme park and we said, all right, you stay there but it has got to
be on a month to month basis. Miami Yacht Club wanted to come, they wanted
to take and they wanted to extend their docks, they wanted to do this, that
and the other thing - no.
Mayor Ferre: That's all fine and you're right, up until the time that the
administration developed a plan to develop that marina area which is hot
off the press a couple of weeks ago. Now, is that right, John? It hasn't -
come before the Co — ission so what I'm saying, and I haven't seen it, I
just saw a sketch of it, so what I'm saying is bring it before the Commis-
sion so that we can finalize the contract with the Miami Yacht Club and the
other vacht club, the Outboard Yacht Club and they could pay their fair
share.
Mr. Sorg: Right, but my point was that the formula to determine rent was
based on bottom lands and uplands which should have been exercised anyway.
There was no reason to postpone it.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but their argument is fine, if you give us the same
right that you gave the Coconut Grove Yacht Club to expand and build a
building and do all of this....
Mr. Plummer: Or a multi -year lease.
Mr. Sorg: But that had nothing to do with it. Coconut Grove's lease is
based on bottom lands an up lands just like this one is and they should be
paying now on a regular basis.
Mayor Ferre: Fair point, bring it up at the next Commission Meeting or
whenever you're ready after you've negotiated a contract.
Mr. Plummer: Stuart, let me ask one question, getting back to the Marine
Patrol. Has any consideration been given or could we incorporate the use
of almost half a million dollars we have spent for a fire boat, is there
any way or did the Waterfront Board look into the use or the double use
of that one vessel? I don't know and I think it is worth exploring because
we find that the actual one time cost of capital outlay is really not the
big nut to crack, it is the personnel to man and to staff it and I would
hope that it would be discounted first before we go and get the second
boat, that the one we have bought for the Fire Department could not be
used because it is amphibian, by the way, it will go on land or water.
So I hope it will be considered..
Mr. Sorg: Well, what would you recommend that I do, get with Mr. Gary and
come back on these?
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Mr. Plummer: I wous say that you would at least go into consultation with
the Fire and Police Chiefs and find out whether or not that boat could be
used for boat purposes, I don't know that it can.
Mr. Sorg: Let me ask the City Manager, are you saying, Howard, that the
$80,000 is the total amount requested by the Police Chief?
Mr. Plummer: It is Item 21 I believe.
Mr. Gary: Yes, it is.
Mr. Sorg: That is the total amount he has requested?
Mr. Gary: That's correct, $80,000 for the boats.
Mr. Sorg: But it is $120,000 all totaled for the whole operation to get
under way. '
Mayor Ferre: I thought we had settled that, that that is something that
you're going to have to deal with the administration on. Is there anything
else, Mr. Sorg? Thank you sir, for your interest and your patience.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 15 WAS WITHDRAWN.
21. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: STEVEN HEINTZ, MORNINGSIDE
CIVIC ASSOCIATION REGARDING PROPOSED IMPACT PLAN -
CODE ENFORCEMENT OF ZONING.
Mayor Ferre: Personal appearance of the Morningside Civic Association.
Mr. Steven Heintz: Yes, sir, I'm Steven Heintz, I live at 535 N.E. 51st
Street, Miami. I am the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Morning -
side Civic Association and speaking as the representative for the Morning -
side Civic Association, I would like to thank, sincerely thank the City
Commissioners and the City Manager's Office for the great deal of attention
that has been paid our northeast area recently. We deeply appreciate what
you have done for us. I think the diminuation of crime in that area will
be an adequate reward. But I appear before you today as the spokesman for
the Miami Civic League and I have brought these very patient people with
me, we've been sitting.
Mr. Plummer: Did you say the Miami Civic League or the Morningside?
Mr. Heintz: No, I am a spokesman for the Miami Civic League and I also hold
offices in the Morningside Civic Association. It was a misprint on the
agenda, Mr. Plummer. The Miami Civic League is an umbrella group of citi-
zens and homeowners associations across the City. About a year ago we
realized that although we live in different parts of the City we all might
share in mutual and common problems. At our first meeting here in this
room, our founding members were asked what was the most pressing problem fac-
ing the City. Crime was the undisputed leading concern but the surprising
and almost unanimous second choice was zoning violations and the level of
zoning enforcement in the City. That was a year ago and the City has taken
steps toward improvement since them. But we, the leaders of the Civic
Association throughout the City of Miami would like to see even greater
improvement and we are to help and offer our help to you. Miami is our
home, we love this town and we think it is in our mutual interest to help
each other keep Miami a beautiful place to live and that is why we are here
today. We would like to suggest the formation of a corps of volunteer zon-
ing inspectors. The volunteers would have to meet certain standards: They
must be a property owner in the City, a registered voter, a high school
graduate and complete a City training program. They could be paid a dollar
a year. But more importantly, the auxiliary zoning inspector would live in
the neighborhood and be its zoning delegate. He would be sponsored by a
recognized homeowners' or other citizens group. During his daily routine,
the auxiliary inspector would be watchful of violations and responsive to
complaints in the neighborhood then report these complaints to a designated
inspector. His report could also be made to the Code Enforcement Board now
being formed. This inspector would be limited to curbside observations and
he would not be a sworn officer. Because of his affiliation with his own
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homeowner's associ* \0a, this assistant would have Coser contact with
the neighborhood and more easily learn of zoning violations and construct-
ion without permits. We now ask the City to begin a pilot program of
this plan to test it for six months. During this time, the Miam Civic
League will work closely with the City Manager's Office and report back to
the Commission on the success of this plan and its possible continuation.
We would like your approval to begin today. We sincerely believe that we
are a member of the Miami family. we owe you our support in your efforts
to return Miami to paradise.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Heintz, this is the best idea that I have heard all day.
Mr. Heintz: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: I really want to tell you that I don't know why somebody
hadn't thought of that before because you know what it is? It's the same
thing that we"re doing with crime, Crime Watch but you're doing it with
zoning. Now why didn't somebody think of this before? I think that is
a brilliant idea and I think we ought to really work hard to see if we
can get citizens like this to become the eyes and ears of the zoning
Department, then I think we are really... No, it is the same thing as
Crime Watch.
Mr. Heintz: Well, if we can save you some money we're going to save our-
selves some tax dollars.
Mayor Ferre: You bet you, you're going to do us a hell of a favor. I
think that is a super idea. I don't know how the rest of the Commission
feels about it but I'm 100% supportive. Do you agree, J. L.?
Mr. Plummer: I think it has, you know, tremendous aspects that could be
used, I think you've got to develop a program and you've got to have a
program of training, you've got to have a program of requirements and
more so, I think the most important is making it fully understood the limi-
tations of the individual involved. That is most important.
Mr. Heintz: Did you hear the limitations in this plan?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I heard what you said, curbside observation, but you
know....
Mr. Heintz: No arrest power.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not the point. I would venture to tell you that
50k of the violations that go on in this community, unless you're in a
helicopter you can't find.
Mr. Heintz: We're well aware of that, that's why with your approval today,
we'll work this out, iron out these details with the City Manager's Office.
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you how to eliminate 50t of our problem, get these
volunteers to work from Friday night at 5 O'Clock until Monday morning at
8:00.
Mr. Heintz: Well, if they live in the neighborhood they'll be 24 hour
volunteers.
Mr. Dawkins: And along the same lines, I would like to offer the assist-
ance of Miami Dade in setting up any seminars or training sessions that you
need.
Mr. Heintz: Thank you very much, we will take advantage of that.
Mr. Dawkins: Dr. Phillips at north campus, just call him at 685-4211 and
then Miami Dade will set up the seminar.
Mr. Perez: I would like to offer you all our facilities in our office and
our staff in anything that we can help, we are very proud of your partici-
pation in the different zoning hearings at the Bayfront Park about a month
ago. I know the kind of determination that you have in favor of important
issues of the City and any time we would be proud that you call our office
and we are supporting 100% and we'll call all the different neighborhoods
to take your steps in this issue.
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Mayor Ferre: You know, somebody gave me a definition of the value of real-
estate the other day, it has nothing to do with this but it is similar. It's
the best definition I've ever heard. The value of realestate is determined by multiplying the number of people who in front of the property in one year
by the amount of money they have in their pocket. You know, it's not a bad
definition. The way you determine the health of a City is by multiplying
the number of citizens that come out and volunteer to do the work multiplied
by the quality of the work that they for the well-being of this community.
As long as this City has people such as yourselves, Steve and Pam and the
others that are part of this group, that are willing to wait and spend your
time trying to help your City the City is going to be a good place to live
in and I really want to thank each and every one of you for your dedication
and I think you've heard from Commissioner Perez who spoke for all of us
that you have our full support. Just let us know what you want us to-do.
Mr. Heintz: Well, I would like a motion or something of official approval
so we can begin to work with the City Manager's Office.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a motion, and let me see if I can word the
motion. The motion would be that the Commission approves in principle the
idea of having citizen group participation in Code enforcement and zoning,
that the Manager is instructed to assign staff to bring this a conclusion
for discussion before the City of Miami Commission at the earliest possible
time.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-28
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE IDEA OF HAVING CITIZEN
GROUP PARTICIPATION IN CONNECTION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT OF
ZONING; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE
STAFF TO BRING THIS IDEA TO A CONCLUSION AND TO COME BACK
WITH A RECO..MYXNDATION AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE TINE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much.
28. 1st & 2nd READING ORDINANCE: HAITIAN SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAM.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, we're now on the Haitian items, that is items
20 and 21. Let me ask you the very specific question. Last time around
when we discussed this we said that we wanted to make sure that we (',,id not
get involved in the middle of political controversies in the Haitian, commun-
ity, we would like to avoid as much as possible these controversies. On
the other hand, we also felt that we had a responsibility to do something
in the Haitian community which is now a part of the Miami community and _-
that nothing.had been done in the past and perhaps we ought to do something.
Now, I see that you're recommending the expenditure of $105,595 for each of
the groups.
Mr. Gary: No, it is just $105,000, one is the appropriation and one is
authorizing me to enter into agreement with them.
Mayor Ferre: Are they both the same?
Mr. Gary: Yes, they are. One is an appropriations ordinance and one is
authorizing me to enter into an agreement with HACAD.
Mayor Ferre: And they are representative and we did have recommendations
from a cross-section of the community?
Mir. Gary: Yes, sir, and if you recall, you voted on it last meeting by a
motion, this is a formalization of that and we agreed at that time that we
had not done anything in the Haitian community and that the whole community
is not going to be satisfied just like in the black community or any other
community, you know, you're not going to get 100% consensus.
Mayor Ferre: And where is this money coming from?
Mr. Gary: It is coming from Federal Revenue Sharing.
Mayor Ferre: Is there money available or are we taking it away from some-
bodv?
Mr. Gary: No, there is money available, we're not taking it away from
anybody else.
Mr. Pl-amnier: Yes, I've got a problem. Okay? My problem, Mr. Gary, how
do you equate Item 20 with Item J? Now, you know, here on one hand you're
telling the people in Item J that you don't have any money and we're going
to take it away and I want to tell you there are some damned important
programs in there. _
Mr. Gary: Item J deals with community development funds and Item ......
Mr. Plummer: What was your comment a minute ago that taxpayers' dollars
are taxpayers' dollars?
Mr. Gary: Item 20 and 21 relates to Federal Revenue Sharing Funds and Mr.
Mayor, Mr. Vice -Mayor....
Mr. Plummer: I thought I a§ked the question.
Mr. Gary: You did, Mr. Ex -Vice -Mayor. This agency along with all the other
agencies will have to vie for moneys come June 30th just like the agencies
that we have approved in the past. This does not commit us to funding for
100 years from now, they would have to compete just like any other agency
and once you establish your policy, you know, if you extend that policy
for Community Development Funds as well as to Federal Revenue Sharing they
would have to live with that policy. But at that time the policy is not
in force, the money is still there in Federal Revenue Sharing as well as
community development so we need to take some action.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, bu` you know, I want to tell you something. There is
no question that these people are in need of help. But Howard, you know
the one thing that you and Dena went after like a tiger this year was no
new programs. Now, here you come and we're talking about taking away from
black Grove $100,000 in one program.
Mr. Gary: Next fiscal year.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I understand what you're saying. Now, how are you going
to stand up and tell the people of Coconut Grove, "Your money is gone"?
How are you going to tell the Community Health Services of Coconut Grove,
"Your $50,000 is gone because we're going to fund a new program"? Because,
Mr. Gary, I'm going to tell you something, you're going to stand up and
tell them. I'm not, I'm going to send them to you, that their money you
gave away to another agency to start a new program.
Mr. Gary: Well, let me just clarify the issue.
Mr. Plummer: Please do.
Mr. Gary: First of all, you're not interpreting that correctly.
Mr. Plummer: I'm interpreting it the way the people in the community
interpret it. They lost a dollar and you gave a dollar to someone else.
They don't know where it came from.
Mr. Gary: Okay, the first thing is we're talking about two different
policies for different funding sources. One is Community Development
and one is Federal Revenue Sharing.
Mr. Plummer: Both federal tax dollars.
Mr. Gary: Secondly, even if we took money from Coconut Grove Health Clinic
they will not go broke because they are getting money from the State and I
think if you recall that figure says they're getting a million dollars over
and above what we're giving them. Unlike HACAD which does not get a dollar
right now, or a penny. Now, in this community with the influx of the refugees
we have had all the federal money come down, none of the money has been, put
it this way, no substantial amounts of money have been dedicated to the
Haitian community to address the problems that they have been confronted
with. We have had millions of dollars spent on Cuban refugees and very lit-
tle spent on Haitians. And what we're saying now is we need to begin to
distribute the benefits, even though it is not equal, but to begin to dis-
tribute them to at least address some of the problems that the Haitian com-
munity has and once we talk about reducing the money we will distribute
the disbenefit, nonbenefit or dissatisfaction equally which would include
them as well as the others. But we need to begin to address the problems
in that community for the mere fact that that community is becoming run-
down, the social service needs are not being met, the housing needs are not
being met and this is a mere pittance compared to the problems in that com-
munity, it is a mere pittance compared to the solutions or the funds that
we have given to other communities.
Mr. Carcllo: Howard, you're absolutely right in what you're saying. The
only concern that I have is the following: Not the giving of the moneys
but who is going to get the moneys. I don't want now that the minute the
word gets out in the Haitian community that there is that kind of money
being given by the City that you are going to have rows of 20 or 30 dif-
ferent Haitian organizations put together overnight and they're all going
to come saying, "Hey, we are the ones that represent the Haitian community"
just like it has happened in the past in other ethnic groups.
Mr. Gary: Well, I agree with that concern but I don't think any of us can
do anything about that. The only thing I can say about HACAD is that they
have been in that community for quite some time, they have been servicing
the community, they have been servicing the needy and I don't think even if
we didn't give it to HACAD we gave it to another group that somebody is
going to be dissatisfied but at least the needy people will be serviced.
Mr. Carollo: What I am saying is that I just want you to make sure that
whomever we're giving it to is deserving of it and is going to use it for
the best purpose.
Mr. Gary: Yes, six, we will monitor them to insure that the City Commis-
sion, that they are providing the se v ces,that they have now informed the
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City Commission thtwill provide and they will do Cc in a very professional
and efficient manner.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, I am looking here at what is their proposal. For
example, how will they go about, let me just pick one. Health needs, the
staff shall assist Haitians to secure and utilize necessary medical treat-
ment as well as preventive and health maintenance services including ser-
vices and medical emergencies. Now, how are they going to go about this?
And what training have they had or background to accomplish this?
Mr. Richard Biamby: Commissioner, perhaps I can answer that question.
The HACAD Medical Center which is not now an integral part of our agency
became independent as of July of last year. The clinic is staffed by
Haitian doctors, Haitian nurses and over the years Haitians have always
had problems in communicating with non -Haitians in the medical profession.
The staff will assist the Haitians in the community in guiding them as to
the available services in this community in terms of the health needs and
any other needs. But this HACAD Medical Center is located in the Haitian
community and it will be made available, it will be made known to them
that there is such a clinic, that they can avail themselves to for their
needs.
NOTE: The City attorney read the proposed ordinance into the public record.
Mr. Plummer: Question, Mr. Gary. Did you make the statement that they had
no other sources of dunding? Did I hear that statement?
Mr. Gary: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, may I ask then, in the back the last page attachment 4,
1 find a $220,000 grant from HRS.
Mr. Gary: That is just the health portion which we told you about.
Mr. Plummer: That is this organization. He said the health organization was
disassociated and they have a pending grant for $40,000.
Mr. Gary: It is not approved.
Mr. Plummer: No, it said pending. What is approved is $220,000. Is that correct?
Mr. Biamby: This $220,000 was a grant by the State of Florida, Department of
Health and Rehabilitative Services for a comprehensive manpower program to place
Haitians in the jobs.
Mr. Plummer: That is not medical, Mr. Gary.
Mr. Gary: No. I stand corrected.
Mr. Plummer: Do we have a breakdown on where that $220,000 is going?
Mr. Biamby: The manpower program...
Mr. Plummer: You are administering the program.
Mr. Biamby: Yes, that is correct.
Mr. Plummer: And do we have a breakdown of that program of how the monies are
being spent:
Mr. Biamby: Well, I can provide it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will tell you what. You see, when I go through this break-
down and I find that part of our money, for example, $5,000, call it $6,000 :s
going for a photostat machine. You know, I got a problem with that. I realli,
do. Now you know, I am not going to be making big, big problems about two at-
tornies and social workers, social worker aids. How much of this money is ad-
ministrative cost?
Mr. Biamby: This is no administrative fee or cost involved in this.
Mr. Plummer: Administration of the money.
Mr. Dawkins: He means for administrators. Administrators.
Mr. Plummer: $73,000 is for the attorneys and social workers.
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Mr. Biamby: $48 we have...
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Mr. Plummer: But that is of the City grant. I want to know about that $220,000
grant.
Mr. Odio: I think if that grant is just like the one we have in Little Havana,
it is obtain jobs for the Haitians, and it is a seperate grant altogether that
we are working to get up for the Haitians and it is money to buy HRS, Commissioner
Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Odio, I am only taking exception with the fact that Mr. Gary
made a statement that these people have no funding whatsoever. And then, by
their own papers, I find a grant of $220,000 running through June 30 of 1982.
Look, I am going to vote for you. I am going to vote for you, okay? Because it
is only for six months, alright? Now, this comes under the Social Services Program
of the FRS?'
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Mr. Plummer: And then this will make them the largest recipient of social
program money from Federal Revenue Sharing with the exeption of Day Care
which is now outside.
Mr. Gary: Catching up to lost time.
Mr. Odio: Well Commissioner, but they really haven't received any monies in the
past, so this would make up for what they never got.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. I am going to vote favorably, which will give us the time
to evaluate at six months more months, but I want a breakdown of that $220,000 —
grant. I am entitled to it. _
Mr. Biamby: I will provide you that. I don't have the budget at my disposal
at the present time. I will make it available to the City Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Biamby: If I get the copy of it.
Mr. Plummer: I include that in the motion, yes sir.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9321,
ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 24, 1981, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1982, AS AMENDED, BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL PRO-
GRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $105,595; BY INCREASING THE
REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $105,595, FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING A COMPREHENSIVE
HAITIAN SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAM: CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT
OF READING SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN
FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner Carollo,
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days
by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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Whereupon the` ommission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
by Commissioner Carollo, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9362
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
29. AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: HAITIAN AMERICAN COM21ULIITY ASSOCIATIO,,'
OF DADE INC. (H.A.C.A.D.)
Mayor Ferre: Take up No. 21 - the resolution. Is the same motion made on
that?
Mr. Plummer: Well that is just the appropriation, one can't go without the
other.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 81-29
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREE-
MENT, SUBSTANTIALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE ATTACHED
PROPOSAL, WITH THE HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF
DADE, INC. (H.A.C.A.D.) PROVIDING UP TO $105,595 IN FEDERAL
REVENUE SHARING FUNDS TO H.A.C.A.D. FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENT-
ING A COMPREHENSIVE SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAM TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF
THE NEEDS OF INDIGENT HAITIAN REFUGEES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
30. SECOA:D READI!"G ORDI;tA::CF: AML.;D SECT101` 14-29 - "DOWI-I'TOV,1
DEVELOPDiE: T AUTHORITY BOARD - REMOVAL OF 2EIBZRS".
Mr. Kenzie: Item No. 18 is second reading of ordinace relating to the re-
moval of members of the Downtown Development Authority for non-attendance
at the bard meetings.
Mayor Ferre: This is the second reading of the thing we passed before. Okay,
any discussion on this?
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Mr. Plummer: How many meetings do they have to miss before they are kicked off?
Mayor Ferre: Three in a row.
Mr. Plummer: Three in a row?
Mayor Ferre: Or more than half during the year. _
Mr. Plummer: That is the same as the Zoning Board. There is nothing wrong with
that.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer I am assuming this comes with the recommendation of the authority?
Mayor Ferre:. Yes, that is where it orignated.
Mr. Plummer: If a man misses three meetings in a row and it is not excusable =_
meetings, well he is not interested.
Mayor Ferre: And just for the record, even though 1 said it last time, one
more time, this thing was started at the DDA six months ago and it has absolute-
ly nothing to do with the election in November or power, okay? For the record.
That is when it started, and I am looking at some of those fellows over there at
the end. It has nothing to do with politics. It started six months ago, before
there was even an election going on.
Mr. Plummer: Well I guarantee you that if Bill Gjebre missed three meetings of
the Commission in a row, the news would replace him.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, Plummer moves, who seconds it. Dawkins seconds. Further
discussion? Read the ordinance:
AIN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 14-29, ENTITLED "DOWNTOWN
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD - REMOVAL OF MEMBERS", OF
THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY
RENUMBERING THE EXISTING SECTION TO READ SUBSECTION (a)
AND BY ADDING NEW SUBSECTIONS (b) AND (c), THEREBY PRO-
VIDING FOR THE EXERCISE BY THE BOARD OF THE DOWNTOWN
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE POWER TO REMOVE BOARD
MEMBERS FOR NONATTENDANCE AT BOARD MEETINGS AND PROVIDING
AN APPEAL PROCEDURE TO THE CITY COMMISSION BY ANY MEM-
BER REMOVED FOR SUCH NONATTENDANCE: FURTHER CONTAINING
A REQUIREMENT THAT PRIOR WRITTEN NOTICE BE GIVEN ANY MEM-
BER WHOSE REMOVAL IS THE SUBJECT OF CONSIDERATION AT A
CITY COMMISSION MEETING: CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of December 10, 1981,
it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title
and passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.9363.
Mayor Ferre: Now J. L, and members of this Commission, while Roy is here:
The DDA and the Chamber of the Commerce and the other day in a meeting with
the Manager and everybody involved
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31. ALLOCATE $30,000 AND SOLICIT BIDS -zUR CONSTRUCTION OF A
MODEL OF THE BAYFRONT AREAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI.
Mayor Ferre: Now J. L., and members of this Commission, while Roy is here The DDA and the Chamber of Commerce and the other day in a meeting with the
Manager and everybody involved, we got all these projects going on pn the
waterfront. .We had Mr. Noguchi here for a whole buncn of days and we had have
Bicentennial and we have the FDC and we have the atson Island Project and
also we haves eight different major activities going on between....now, the
conclusion was that we needed to get a model, a three dimensional model of
the bayfront in one to fifty scale which is fairly large, is about as big
as this table. Now, and to do it in sections so that as we develop what we
are going to do, for example, when Nuguchi comes back if the Commission ever
finally approves the design or whatever it is that we have to do, or the
museum comes up with ... with design it in such a way so that parts can be
moved in and out of this thing. Now, that is a very expensive thing to do,
but the Chamber has recommended, and I think it makes an awful lot of sense,
that we really start thinking of the whole bayfront as a single unit and
start planning as a single unit. Now what we have now is separate little
pieces that are being planned separately, and we really need to look at the
whole thing. Now, we requested a cost estimate as to how much it is going
to cost. Something like that will end up costing about, is it $35,000?
$30,000. Now, I think the first phase of it would hopefully, Roy, cost a
lot less than that. We really need to get going on it. The DDA just doesn't
have the money for it, because...
Mr. Plummer: Have you approached the University of Miami?
Mayor Ferre: No, they don't have the money to do that. Something has to be
done professionally. He can't do it with students.
Mr. Plummer: No, what I am saying is, that they could take it on a project
and maybe it would cost half that amount.
Mayor Ferre: You can't get students to do that.
(INAUDIBLE COKMENTS - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
Mayor Ferre: What I would like to request fromthe Commission on behalf of
the DDA and the administration, with the administration's recommendation and
the Chambers, is that we get going with the planning of that whole waterfront,
and that we appropriate $30,000 for that. I think there is an urgent need and
I respectfully request that it be done.
iMr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time that the Manager be instructed to go
out and receive bids for a model of the entire downtown, including bayfront..
Mayor Ferre: Are we going to do this in house, or are we going to do this with
professional help outside? Well, either or, whichever is cheapest. Can we do
it that way?
Mr. Plummer: No, let the Manager go out and solicit bids and find out what it
is going to cost. You have to go to competitive bidding for that amount of
money.
Mr. Gary: Unless we contract within.
Mr. Plummer: then he has got to go to competitive bidding.
Mayor Ferre: No, we do it in house.
(INAUDIBLE COMMENTS - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
Mayor Ferre: Do it in house, don't make a big issue of it.
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Mr. Plummer: You are telling me it is needed. I am not going to disagree. I
will make the motion approving.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? Further discussion?
Mr. Plummer: How in the hell can we sit here and worry about $30,000 with a
billion dollars worth of construction going on and it is vital to our future.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-30
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO GO OUT AND SEEK BIDS FOR —
THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SCALE MODEL OF THE BAYFRONT AREAS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN ORDER THAT IT MAY BE UPDATED
AS DIFFERENT PROJECTS MATERIALIZE, AND ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $30,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Is there anything else, and J. L....
Mr. Plummer: Roy, let me say something to you and the Mayor and I should have =
said it before the vote. You know, I took that model of the convention center
up to Orlando to help us make sure we get the convention of the Florida League,
and it was the damnest time. I had to stand there and explain to people from
that model "No, this is not all of it. there is a world trade center going in
over here. The coliseum is proposed for over here , and you know people sit
there and wonder, "Here is a first-class city and they don't even have a model
of what is going on?"
Mayor Ferre: You know Roy, I will tell you. You ought to also come back; I know
we can't do it this year, but maybe for next year. We ought to really start doing
a model, we ought to come up with a model of the whole ...
Mr. Kenzie: We have a model of all of downtown on a wall which is 1 in a 100
scale. It has to be updated because it is about 4 years old.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you ought to update it and it ought to be available to this
Commission whenever something like that goes on. Instead of taking that model
of that convention conference center, he ought to be able to take the model so
he can explain how it fits into the whole thing.
Mr. Plummer: It is a tremendous selling factor, I want to tell you.
Mayor Ferre: But the fact is, a model like that is 10 times better than a draw-
ing. Alright, do we have anything else on this? Roy, do you have anything else?
32. DISCUSSIO:J ITEM: INSTRUCT CITY MAI!AGER TO INViSTIGATE POSSIBILITY
OF REVIVAL OF 'PARK AVD RIDE" SERVICE BY M.T.A. PROM Tt.E OrxA GE
BOWL TO DOt-T,;TOLal MIAMI.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can we address that other problem you just brought up?
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Mayor Ferre: I think that you have another thing, and that is parking. I am
getting people calling me, treatening me now, because they cannot park their
cars in downtown, now that S. E. has got started. I have got one hell of a
list of angry phone callers calling me about parking. Now, as you know, this
Commission has gone on record to park on the FEC property as soon as it is
available and this morning we voted to start, to put grass on it and to tspread
seeds and water it. Now, I want to tell you that, in my opinion, y
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DDA has fallen behind in your responsibility, and you, Mr. Reid and the city
has fallen behind too, because, I understand you have negotiated with Roger
Carlton, and Roger Uarlton said this and that, but the fact is that this Com-
mission went on record 3 months ago. Now I don't see that anybody is doing
anything about it.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I ask at this time that the Manager be instructed to
immediately enter into discussion with Metropolitan Dade County transit authority
for the possible revival of the park and ride from the City of Miami Orange Bowl.
Back then it did not work and the reason it didn't work is parking fees were
$6.00 and $8.00 a day, but I truthfully believe that if we could get Metropolitan
Dade County to come up with a program of a shuttle bus service between the Orange
Bowl and downtown for like, $1.00 a day - 50C in and 50C back - I believe today
it would be a tremendous success. Let me just tell you Mr. Gary and Mr. Kenzie
probably already knows. I was speaking with someone from Florida Power and Light
who were in the One Biscayne Building. They are ready to move, and you know why?
Their parking fees that they pay for employees only exceed $200,000 a year - just
for their employees and they are thinking about moving out of downtown Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I think we have do everything and anything, and I think that
if you want to make that a motion...
Mr. Plummer: I don't think it has to be in a motion. I just want the Manager to
sit down and see if he can get that thing started on a buck a day situation to
where people can park there free of charge at the Orange Bowl and go to town for
a dollar and come back. I think it is well worth exploring.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, you are under instructions to that and ...
Mr. Plummer: and report back here on the llth with a signed contract.
Mayor Ferre: I would like to tell you that you have also been instructed by the
majority of this Commission to proceed with getting narking, and you haven't, with
all due respect, I don't see that you have done very much. We need to be brought
up to date as to where you stand, Jim. I don't know whose assignment this is. Was
it yours?
Mr. Reid: There was an interim parking committee set up as a result of that study,
but certainly Mr. Mayor, between Mr. Kenzie.
Mayor Ferre: That is not my point. The City of Miami Commission voted after a
big debate on this and it was a 3 to 2 vote, as I recall, and I want to know if
you have done it? You are the administration.
Mr. Gary: If you recall, we came here about 3 or 4 times on that same proposal,
and I think that it was finally voted on about a month and one half ago.
Mayor Ferre: I think that it was way before the election. November loth was the
election. If I were to take a guess, that was the first meeting of October, or
the second meeting of September.
Mr. Gary: We will get you a report.
Mayor Ferre: It has got to be at least 2 or 3 months, and I need to know - who
is working on this? What I want to know is, who is in charge of this shop anyway?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Reid, Mr. McManus and myself.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Reid, are you the guy that...
Mr. Reid: Mr. Mayor, we will be back to the Commission expeditiously with that
interim parking on the FEC tract.
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Mayor Ferre: You are under instructions and I just want to make sure that you
don't forget that.
Mr. Plummer: How many parking spaces do we have in the Orange Bowl - 4000?
Mr. Gary: 3600 - 4000.
Mayor Ferre: 3600? 3600 in our property. That doesn't include street parking
along..
Mr. Plummer: Sir, if we could overnight inject the possibility of 4000 addition-
al spaces...
Mayor Ferre: A tremendous boon..
Mr. Gary: We will get my civic association against you.
Mayor Ferre: It would be a major breakthrough. Alright, is there anything else
in downtown?
33. APPROVE A1XEiIDED LEASE AGREEMENT: COPAL REEF :ACHT CLUB.
Mayor Ferre: This is an amended lease agreement on the Coral Reef Yacht Club.
I was the guy holding it up - I wanted to go out and see it. I am -satisfied.
Mr. Plummer: Well, the only thing we started to pass it this morning and the
only reason we didn't pass it was because you weren't in the room at the time.
Mavor Ferre: I went out there personally with Mr. Jenkins and looked at it and
I am satisfied that this serves the public interest.
Mr. Plummer: Move Item No. 30.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Item No. 30 has been moved and seconded. Further discussion?
Mr. Dawkins: This is another one of those areas that I have problems with, in
that we are giving them 28 slips. I don't know what the rental will be and for
those 28 slips the city is receiving $195 in rent and I just want to bring that
out.
Mr. Plummer: No, that is not true.
Mr. Dawkins: Here it is right here. "The rental rate is raised proportionately
from $6,923.39 to $7,118.50 per annum". Here it is, right here.
Mr. Harrison: What you are referring to, Commissioner Dawkins, is that the current
rate, after permitting and they have constructed the docks would be..
Mayor Ferre: Your name for the records.
Mr. Harrison: William H. Harrison, City of Miami Lease Manager... would be $7100.
Mr. Plummer: That is what they will be paying the City?
Mr. Harrison: Yes sir.
Mr. Plummer: For the additional slips.
Mr. Harrison: For the total lease area, the existing and the new slips.
Mr. Dawkins: For the new slips, the City will receive $195 only.
Mr. Plummer: That isn't anywhere near the figures that I heard.
Unidentified Speaker: Commissioner, the lease that we have, I don't have right
in front of me. Bill is looking it up, it is over $1,000 in difference.
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Mayor Ferre: That is what he said. 27 slips, you mean divid_d by $1000 is
what you paid for 27 slips?
Mr. Plummer: Is that $1000 a month, or $1000 a year?
Mr. Harrison: If we can back up for a minute Commissioner, the 4.21 acres is
the total lease area, which includes the new area. It is approximately the same
size as what Coral Reef Yacht Club had under their previous lease, or that they
had before. The only thing that they are effectually doing is adjusting the size
of the premises approximately 25 feet, so there isn't any great difference in
rental. It is just an adjustment as to size, so they are paying $7118.50, which
is made up..they are paying a slightly higher fee because the structure is larger,
but actually the land area is a little bit smaller, or the submerged land area
is smaller.
Mr. Dawkins:' May I read from your report, please.
Mr. Harrison: Yes sir.
Mr. Dawkins: "The total area of submerged land remains approximately the same and
the requested modification would allow Coral Reef Yacht Club to effecitvely in-
crease its wet slip storage by 28 as originally planned. The proposed modifica-
tion, although containing approximately the same submerged land area computed at
a slightly higher annual lease rate, because of more area being occupied by dock
structures, the rental rate is raised proportionaly from $6,923.39 to $7,180.50"
and the way I compute it, that is $195 a year.
Mr. Harrison: That is correct. $195.11, because the structures themselves
are only slightly larger. It is just an adjustment of the size. We are not giv-
ing them any additional land at all. You see. if they were able to permit what
they have right now, they would have paid $6923.39. Under this different
scenario, it is slightly higher. It will now be be $7,118.50.
Mr. Dawkins: One other question and I will be finished with this. The 28 wet
slips that you are adding, will that make their annual income the same?
Mr. Harrison: The total amount that they will pay....
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no. Listen closely so you can answer my question. The 28
additional slips that are going to be added. Will their annual income remain the
same as for the present slips that they have?
Mr. Harrison: No sir, it is slightly higher.
Mr. Perez: I think that would represent a difference of about $35.000 a vear,
for 28 spaces. That would be a difference in revenue for about 35 because he
has about a $4.00 a foot
Mr. Harrison: Commissioner, we are not charging them a percentage of gross on
what the club receives for their slips. We are charging them on the basis of
the total area that they occupy.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Harrison, do you feel that this is a fair return to the City for
the land that they are going to be getting?
Mr. Harrison: For the submerged land that they are receiving and that they are
putting the total amount of improvements in themselves, the City is not paying any
money. Also, in that the club has dedicated 18 feet for a bicycle right-of-way
in front of the premises, that if we had to condemn in order to put in that bicycle
path, that makes it very equitable, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Is this comparable to other leases in the area?
Mr. Harrison: Yes sir, this is predicated upon the same formula that we had used
with Coconut Grove Sailing Club and also the Biscayne Bay Yacht Club next door.
Mr. Plummer: Call the question.
Mayor Ferre: Are you satisfied? And you are satisfied that this is a good deal
for us?
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Mr. Plummer: Our man has said that he feels that it is equitable. It is fair,
based upon not only the return of dollars, but the 18 foot of dedication they
have given us for a bike path walkway. He feels it is comparable to others in
the area.
Mayor Ferre: I have only got on condition on it. Who is the maker of the motion?
Mr. Plummer: I am.
Nzyor Ferre: Alright, J. L., I went out there and looked at the pier. The one
thing that I want in there is that they cannot keep any boats over 30 feet other
than at the end of the pier, because otherwise they get big boats there and I
think that makes the difference. I don't mind small boats being there, but
anything over 30 feet...now, is that acceptable?
Mr. Plummer.. Alright.
Mr. Harrison: Now, so that I understand you, Mr. Mayor, in the document that you
are approving, you want a restrictive clause that reads that the new docks, the
improvements will be restricted to vessels of 30 feet or less.
Mayor Ferre: The 27 new docks, 28, will be limited to vessels of 30 feet or less
excpet at the end of the dock where if they want to put a bigger boat, because
they have a bigger space there, and they are limited by the draft anyway, so is
that acceptable?
Unidentified Sneakers Yea emir, 1-e will accept it.
Mayor Ferre: Any further discussion? I assume that amendment is acceptable to
the maker of the motion and the second to the motion? Call the roll.
'7he following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 81-31
A RESOLUTION CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO AMENDMENT NO. 2, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED
HERETO, TO THE AMENDED LEASE AGREEMENT DATED JUNE 29, 1979,
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB AL-
LOWING THE INCLUSION OF ADDITIONAL SUBMERGED LAND SO THAT THE
SAID CLUB CAN EFFECTIVELY INCREASE WET SLIP STORAGE BY TWENTY-
EIGHT SLIPS AS ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
34. CUTS IN SOCIAL SERVICE COMMUNITY DEVELCPME,:T ;L'NDS -
DEFERRED FOR FURTHER STUDY.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, take up Item "J".
Ms. Spillman: As I have mentioned previously, we have new changes in the
federal regulations and a cut in our Community Development block grant which
effectively results in the necessity of my being here today to ask you to
give us direction and how we go about cutting certain social service pro-
grams from the Community Development program. Now let me preface this by
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saying that intentionally did not go to the community, nor did we talk to the
agencies before we brought this to you for policy direction. Once you give us
your direction and tell us how you want us to proceed in this matter, we will
go out to the various target areas, meet with the community and..
Mayor Ferre: Dena, in the interest of time and I have a feeling that I am going
to fail in this because this is just one man's voice. I read your thing very
carefully, okay? And with the exception of the Coconut Grove health, I am in
total agreement with your conclusions. That is just one man's opinion. Now, I
don't know if anybody else wants to argue about this, or has different...
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, let me tell you, the only thing that I have got
a problem with Dena, and it is my problem because I find it difficult to find
that you don't list the programs that are not being cut.
Ms. Spillman: Yes we do.
Mr. Plummer: Where?
Ms. Spillman: Well, if you just look on, all the projects are listed under the
priorities on page 3, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: I will tell you the one that I have some problems with.
Ms. Spillman: And if you look at the chart, Commissioner, they are all on there.
Mr. Carollo: The Industrial Home for the Blind?
Ms. Spillman: Yes sir.
Mr. Carollo: I have been getting all kinds of bad vibes of what has been happening
there. I understand there is a current investigation going on by..
Ms. Spillman: Commissioner Carollo, if you would look at the way we prioritized
the programs, the program you just mentioned is next to the last priority, so it
is not high priority in the recommendations that we have given you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I will go along with that. I think you have to understand
that, if you look at the priorities as Dena has pointed out, that is next to the
last and that is one that was skipped over. Now I have no problem substituting
the cutting the cutting of that if you want to for the Coconut Grove.
Ms. Spillman: Mayor, if you substitute the Industrial Home for The Blind, we
could give that $44,500 to the Coconut Grove Health Program, if that is what you
are suggesting.
Mayor Ferre: I am not suggesting anything yet; I am just saying that that is a
possibility.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Dena, gAve me a quick rundown on my basic philosophy. On
federal revenue sharing, you know I have said, "let's feed the hungry, take
care of the sick and all else left over we will talk about". Now, are any of
these programs that you are recommending for reduction or elimination come under
that category?
Ms. Spillman: Well the...
Mr. Plummer: Is the blue the programs we are presently and you are continuing
their funding and the red is what you are proposing to drop? Is that the formula
here?
Ms. Spillman: That is correct.
Mr. Carollo: I see already one that you don't have in the red.
Mayor Ferre: Who is that?
Mr. Carollo: The Industr
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Ms. Spillman: Under the proposal that we gave you Commissioner Carollo, they
were not to cut this year. They would be the first to go next year, but you
can obviously substitute that. That is why we are here today.
Mr. Carollo: That is your proposal. I am working on mine.
Ms. Spillman: That is right. Commissioner Plummer, I think you mentioned
health in there?
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, to take care of the sick and feed the hungry.
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you about this memorandum. This is one of the best
drafted memorandums Dena, that has come out of your office in a long time.
You know, I really think it is very logical. It is well reasoned and it is
well written. I mean, I read it, and I understood it the first time I read it,
and I want to tell you that that is progress.
Mr. Carollo: Dena, I hope you don't mind but this is too important for us to
vote on without really going over it carefully. I really haven't had the
opportunity, I am sorry, to go over it carefully as I would like to. Would
you terribly mind if we could hold off on this for another meeting?
Ms. Spillman: Commissioner, I don't mind. The only problem that results when
we do something like this is that we have to go out to the community and if we
wait until the last minute, they accuse us of all kinds of things.
Mr. Dawkins: I have problems with Miami Mental Health. I have problems with
dropping the Community Mental Health Services I have trouble with dropping, but
as I know, we have got to make a cut someplace, so in my personal opinion, I
would rather see the Dade County Community Schools dropped than see the Mental
Health dropped, but that is my opinion.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, that is the point I was going to get to now.
Didn't we somewhere along the line instruct you to inform the School Board
that those two programs we are dropping at the end of this year.
Ms. Spillman: Yes, Commissioner and there is a mistake on the chart. Those -
two should show in red and that's FRS. It is a different subject, but they should
be in red. -
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but hell, that is, you are talking abut $250,000.
Ms. Spillman: It is a mistake and we are, we have notified them that at the end of the school year..
Mr. Plummer: How does that balance out the red and the blue?
Ms. Spillman: We have not, unless you tell me to do this, we have kept commu-
nity development separate from federal revenue sharing, so we have not assumed
that we could take the federal revenue sharing funds and use them to pick up
community development projects. We have tried to keep them separate, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Maurice, am I wrong - wasn't there a thing of this Commission
instructing Dena to inform the School Board?
Ms. Spillman: We did it.
Mr. Plummer: You have already done it
Ms. Spillman: I am sorry, it should show up in red.
Mayor Ferre: You should show it in red.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, so that is really then another $250,000; is that correct?
Ms. Spillman: Pardon?
Mr. Plummer: That is another $250,000.
Mayor Ferre: We don't have to cut that much. We are assuming that the President
is going to cut 20%. That is what this memo says and you are basing this on that,
so all you really have to cut, as I understood your figures is $350,000.
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Ms. Spillman: Right, and what I just tried to explain to Commissioner Plummer
is that we didn't mix FRS and CD. In other words, we are cutting - he is right -
we are cutting the Dade County Programs, but we did not recommend that we take
that money and use it for Community Development programs. Now, if you tell us
to do that, you know, we will do it. The only problem is, they are different
funding cycles, and the FRS money won't be available...
Mayor Ferre: I think that that is why this is such a well written memorandum.
I think you lay out the premise very, very true, and that is, that the No. 1
priority is feeding people who are going hungry hot meals, okay? The second =
priority is job training, to get people jobs; in these times when people are
looking for jobs.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my second priority is taking care of the sick, and then job
training.
Mayor Ferre:. Then, the way you have this thing, this thing doesn't say that. —
It says No.'l is elderly hot meals, No. 2 is job training and No. 3 is elderly
transportation, No. 4 is diversionary recreation programs, youth and No. 5 is
child care, child custodial #6 is supportive and then, so on. Now, the rea-
son that health care is not in here, I want to remind you of this and I want to
quote non other than J. L. Plummer who said 7 years ago and he and I both went
down the drain on it - "This city has gone out of social services because that
is the responsibility of Metropolitan Dade County, and Gentlemen and Mrs. Gordon,
I want you to remember me, because I told you so. And you are going to regret _
doing this, because what is going to happen is we are going to get deeper and
deeper into social services and once you get in, you can't get out, because you
can't say no to the community without being cruel" and on and on. Am I quoting
you right?
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mayor Ferre: Alright now, we are here, and we are spending millions of dollars
in an area that the City of Miami supposedly has no responsibility, no authority
and really should have no ability to be involved in it. Well, why did we do it?
You know why we did it? Because Uncle Sam said "Here is the money fellows". So
we took some of the money and some of the community leaders came here and said
"Help us". So, we started to help. Very limited, only hot meals, but then the
next guy came and the next guy came and now we are into a whole series of social
programs that are the responsibility of the state and the county. Now, I will
tell you one thing. I feel very, very strongly about the importance of family
clinics, like the one in the Grove and the Community Health Center and all of
these things., but I want to tell you, that isn't our responsibility. That is
the responsibility of the state and the responsibility of the county. We, be-
cause Theodore Gibson was sitting here, supplemented; we started with Coconut
Grove and the next thing we knew, we were into the other ones, but we have never
been part of that, and this is something we did as a supplemental. It is the
responsibility of the county. Ninety-five percent of your funds, if you look
at this very well written memorandum, that explains it very clearly, if you get
your funding from the state or from the county. Now all of a sudden you are
defending in our �50,uuu and as we get into tnese naro times,....
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, I would like to make a motion to defer this. Dena, this
has nothing to do with you, I just haven't had the opportunity to go over this
very carefully.
Ms. Spillman: If some community people come to the next meeting and are very up-
set, I am warning you ahead of time, that's all.
Mayor Ferre: The community people are going to be very upset.
Ms. Spillman: The community people are going to be very upset no matter what you
do anyway.
Mayor Ferre: But that is life.
Mr. Carollo: You will be here with us right?
Ms. Spillman: Absolutely.
Mayor Ferre: Do you wish to tell us something?
Mr. Sands: Mr. Plummer, I am a native Miamian, by the way.
Mayor Ferre: Don't say it with a voice of apology. You don't have to apolo-
gize for that.
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Mr. Sands: I am from Miami Mental Health ..
Mr. Plummer: He didn't Mi-am-uh!
Mr. Sands: It took a long time to learn how to say Miami.
Mr. Carollo: You are from Community Mental Health?
Mr. Sands: Community Mental Health, right. Coconut Grove Branch. The $50,000
grant from the CD funds which was awarded to Miami Mental Health last year has
been used to establish an alcohol program targeted toward the Coconut Grove area,
the Black Grove area and..
Mr. Plummer: Have you already heard the Mayor tell Ms. Spillman to withdraw
that item from the red and put it in the blue?
Mr. Sands: t wasn't too clear on that.
Mr. Plummer: He made the statement and you said you would take the $44,000 from
somewhere else and supplement that.
Mayor Ferre: I said, Dena, on the record, okay, speaking as one voice here, that _
I was in agreement with everything you had here except the Coconut Grove Family
Clinic.
Ms. Spillman: Okay, but he is not from the Coconut Grove Family Clinic. He is
from the..
Mr. Plummer: No, from the Mental Health Service.
Ms. Spillman: Well the Mayor is not saying that.
Mayor Ferre: Aren't you talking about Coconut Grove?
Mr. Plummer: Mental Health Center, yes.
Ms. Spillman: There are two programs in the Grove. One is the Mental Health
Service and one is the Family Clinic. =
Mr. Plummer: The $50,000, the Community Mental Health Services, Miami Mental
Health Center.
Mayor Ferre: Are you sure?
Mr. Plummer: I am positive.
Mayor Ferre: I stand corrected. I made a mistake. I meant the Community Mental
Health Services, and this is the one that....let's put it on the record that Mrs.
Gibson is interested in
Ms. Spillman: Yes, that is the one, I am positive.
Mayor Ferre: You are sure now.
Ms. Spillman: They have given you back at least $44,500 at this point and the
issue is not over yet.
Mr. Sands: Thank you, but initially I was coming here in a few weeks to ask for
another $12,000.
Mayor Ferre: Now, tell me what your position is with your organization.
Mr. Sands: I am the director of the Coconut Grove branch.
Mayor Ferre: Now you got me confused. You are not the Coconut Grove Family
Clinic?
Mr. Sands: The Miami Mental Health, the Coconut Grove branch.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. Now, you are part of the larger organization
Mr. Sands: Yes, but we are budgeted strictly for that particular...
Mayor Ferre: This goes directly to the Grove, but it fits under the umbrella
operation?
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Mr. Sands: Right.
Mayor Ferre: Which Cesar - Marianne - your wife is the director of, right?
It is the one that is funded mostly by the state HRS, the federal government,
and you have a lot of county money too - she gets a lot of county money too.
Mr. Odio: But I think it is mostly federal monies now that they got through the
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I just want to understand it.
Mr. Sands: We are expecting approximately 30% decrease in funding as a result
of the block grants that are coming down, and at the moment, that $50,000 only
represents about 20% of our operating budget for the Coconut Grove. However, if
you add an additional 30%, I think we will become non-existent.
Mayor Ferre:. Okay, this is just one man's voice, but Plummer and Dawkins said
they agree, so you have three of us on that one. I am not speaking anything else
at this point, okay?
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly made by Commissioner
Carollo and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, unanimously agreed
to defer the above issue.
35.. DISCUSSION ITLM: CITY ATTORNEY'S COMPLE SATIOiN.
Mayor Ferre: Discussion of City Attorney's compensation. Mr. Knox?
Mr. Knox: What is being passed out now is a couple of pieces of paper. One
of them is a sort of review of activities of the law department over the past
year. We had had a policy of providing annual reports and we are continuing that
process. The other thing that the Commission suggested that we provide is a
salar.; history for the City Attorney beginning on October 14, 1976 when I was
appointed and that information is provided to you also.
Mr. Carollo: George, you are not looking for a salary increase right?
Mr. Knox: No sir.
Mr. Plummer: He has already gotten it.
Mr. Carollo: I didn't think so, from looking at this here.
Mayor Ferre: That is not bad. Let's see, when I started out, I think I started
out with $6,000 and I am making, how much am I making?
Mr. Knox: There are a couple of intangibles that I would like to call the Com-
missioner's attention to.
Mr. Plummer: (LAUGHTER) You are a fool.
Mr. Knox: No, I am pleased to announce that..
Mr. Plummer: You are leaving (LAUGHTER). He is going to work for the Miami Herald.
Mr. Knox: that I was fortunate enough 3 years ago to be elected to the Board of
Directors of the National Institute of Municipal Law Offices which is the national
organization of City Attorneys and they will be holding their annual convention
in November of 1982 at the City of Miami, University of Miami James L. Knight
Conference & Convention Center - if it is finished - an in the alternative, we will
hold it at somebody's house in the City. But, we expect 1,000 delegates and of
course, if the projections are accurate, that will represent about a million dol-
lars in revenue to City of Miami which would, in some small way, offset my salary.
Mayor Ferre: Well done, George; now you have to start working on next's year's
project.
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Mr. Carollo: What would you like for us to do now, George?
Mr. Knox: I just wanted to give you that information and obviously I am not
seeking any increase in compensation.
Mayor Ferre: I need to read this before we get into it. As I understand it,
the printing on this thing was mis-typed. What you meant to say on this Com-
mission Agenda was an evaluation rather than a compensation, and so what we
are talking about is evaluation and I really can't for myself, make any comments,
until I have had the opportunity to read this very carefully.
Mr. Knox: Well, I can provide that to you and that matter can be taken up at
a subsequent meeting, but I did want to get the information to you.
Mayof Ferre: Are there any other questions of Mr. Knox at this time?
Mr. Carollo: No, Mr. Mayor; we appreciate him handing us all this background
information.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox, you will be available for any questioning from members of
the Commission by phone or in person, I would assume? Alright, further discus-
sion?
36. ADJUST BASE SALARIES OF CITY CLERK A:0 ASSISTA:;T CITY CLERX -
FUP.THER PROVIDE POSITIO:,iS OF CITY CLZPJ" A274D CITY ATTOR!!ZY TO
RECEIVE THE 2% COST OF LIVING ADJUS7ME11T APRIL 19C2.
1.. ..d.0110: Mr. Mayor, real briefly, if I may now, since we are done with
George. I think it is only fair, George received his salary increase recently.
The City Manager will be taking his up next month when his contract stipulates
it. The other employee that we have that works directly for us is the City
Clerk. He has not received his increase yet, like Goerge did and I would like
to present a motion to give the City Clerk at least part of an increase similar
to what George has received recently.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion.
Mr. Carollo: My motion is to give our City Clerk a 10% increase.
Mr. Plummer: Are you sepaking of an increase or a cost of living?
Mr. Carollo: I am talking about an increase and cost of living both.
Mayor Ferre: The same that George got.
Mr. Carollo: I think, well what I am saying, what George got is different. He
got more than that - 16%.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's get this straight, because I think we have got to
be careful - I am all for it No. 1 - so let me start off...
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this, Maurice. Come April, is it a 22 increase in pay
that employees are supposed to get, Howard?
Mr. Gary: It was October 4th, it was 10% that the City Clerk and the City Attorney
received and in April there is a 2% and over that, what the City Attorney has is
6%, so the only thing that Mr. Ongie has not received is the 6% which is on that.
Mayor Ferre: Let me understand this right. Ralph, did you get a 10% increase
on October 4th?
Mr. Ongie: Yes sir, the cost of living.
Mayor Ferre: And are you going to get the 2%?
Mr. Ongie: According to the Commission's motion, these cost of living increases
will no longer be granted to the City Clerk.
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Mayor Ferre: No, at isn't the cost of living. mat is part of the contractual
arrangement.
Mr. Ongie: The 2% and the 8% on this coming October 1st will no longer be coming
to me as per the Commission's motion.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. Okay, I got you.
Mr. Ongie: In other words, there is no more automatic cost of living increases.
Mayor Ferre: How much are you making as of today, right now?
Mr. Ongie: $51,064.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now how much were you making last year before the 10% and
the other increase?
Mr. Ongie: .$47,800, something like that.
Mayor Ferre: It had to be less than that.
Mr. Ongie: Well, whatever 10% less of what I am making now.
Mayor Ferre: The only increase you got last year was a 10% cost of living?
Mr. Ongie: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: And you have not gotten any other increases during the fiscal
year that passed?
Mr. Ongie: No sir.
Mr. Plummer: What is Mattie making?
Mr. Ongie: About $36,300. -
Mr. Plummer: And what is she proposed to go to?
Mr. Ongie: Well, she is unaffected by the Commission's motion about the cost of
living increases and she works for me, and not the Commission, so she will still
continue to get the 2% on April Ist and the 8% on October lst.
Mr. Plummer: Well, what about an increase in salary?
Mr. Ongie: Well there again, the Commission traditionally has adjusted the
salary of the Clerk and the assistant, but the Commission, in its motion de-
cided that only the 3 main people who work for them, they would adjust their
salaries so it would be up to me as her director to adjust.
Mr. Carollo: The way I figure it, the 2% that he supposed to get in April,
plus the 8% in October is how I am figuring 10%.
Mr. Plummer: Did Mattie get the 10% cost of living increase?
Mr. Ongie: Yes, everyone got it.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, she did not receive a salary increase?
Mr. Ongie: No.
Mr. Plummer: Alright, and what is proposed that you are going to get as a salary
increase?
Mr. Ongie: Whatever the Commission decides.
Mayor Ferre: How much did George Knox get?
Mr. Gary: 6.
Mayor Ferre: 6. In other words, Mr. Knox got the 10%, and in addition to that
you got 6%.
Mr. Knox: Yes sir.
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Mayor Ferre: Is that what you are proposing?
Mr. Carollo: Well, the way I was figuring, Maurice, is the 2% in April plus
that 8% in October. Now, we can make it 6%, however...
Mayor Ferre: See, that is why I am getting confused; he got 10% in October;
now what does 8% have to do with that.
Mr. Carollo: Well, as I understand it, there is an K - Howard, can you explain
it to the Mayor a little clearer?
Mr. Gary: On October 4th, it is 10%. In April there is a 2% for all employees.
Mr. Plummer: What you are saying is 6% increase in salary, and the additional.
2% cost of living, for a total of 8%. Is that what you are saying?
Mr. Carollo:' I think that would be satisfactory.
Mr. Plummer: Now, Mattie already got the 10% and she will get automatically the
2%, is that correct?
Mr. Ongie: She will get automatically the 2%; I will not.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, so what we have got to do to adjust her to bring her up to par
is increase her salary by 6%, giving her the increase in salary.
Mr. Ongie: If that is the Commission's wish.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I mean, Mr. Gary, what has been done with all the rest of
the city employees. What did they get in increase in percentage?
Mr. Gary: Excluding the City Manager the way it worked...
Mr. Plummer: Well, you are not a city employee; you are just on payroll.
Mr. Gary: The way it worked was that Mattie and all of the other employees got
the automatic 10`..
Mr. Plummer: That is cost of living.
Mr. Gary: Cost of living. They automatically got the 2y in April, which is
automatic cost of living. Now, Mattie has gotten it; Ralph has gotten it. —
Mr. Plummer: No, he is saying he is not going to get the 2% automatic.
Mr. Gary: Ralph is got the 10...I am sorry, Ralph has got the 10, and Mattie
has got the 10, but the new policy will give Mattie the 2% automatically, but
not give Ralph the 2% automatically. Now with George it got the 10, plus he
got the 6 before the 2 comes up.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, but what is Mattie entitled to in a salary increase?
Mr. Gary: Okay, it all depends on what the City Commission wants to give her.
Mr. Plummer: What do the rest of the employees get?
Mr. Gary: 10% October 4th and 2% April 4th.
Mr. Plummer: That is cost of living. I am talking the salary increases.
Mr. Gary: That is the cost of living Now the increase is 5% on their anni-
versary date.
Mr. Plummer: No, look. You just negotiated contracts.
Mr. Gary: That is the 10 and the 2.
Mr. Plummer: That is all you negotiated?
Mr. Gary: That is all we negotiated.
Mr. Plummer: Just cost of living.
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Mr. Gary: Exactly.
Mr. Plummer: No salary increases?
Mr. Gary: No. Well, you call salary increases salary. They are cost of living.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but George has broken it down into two categories.
Mr. Knox: See in addition, this is the Manager's purview, but in addition to the
so called cost of living increase, the rest of the employees get annual increases
on their anniversary date plus merit increases plus longevity increases and all
of that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, are you proposing 8% for Ralph and 6% for Mattie, is that
what you are proposing?
Mr. Carollo: Is that how it would work out Howard?
Mr. Gary: Yes. What I would suggest is Ralph got the 10. You want to make it
consistent - give George the 6 and when April comes, give him the 2% when Mattie
gets her 2.
Mr. Carollo: Well, George is getting 6% already.
Mr. Gary: Yes, that is what I am saying, that is why you have to give him the
6%,, because he hasn't gotten his. He hasn't gotten the 6, and to keep him equal
with George, give him the 6, and to keep him equal with his staff, when April
comes, he gets the 2 automatically.
Mr. Plummer: So we are going to give Ralph 8% and Mattie 6%.
Mr. Carollo: No, we are going to give Ralph 6, comes April we are going to give
Ralph and George the 2.
Mr. Plummer: k'hat about Mattie?
Mr. Carollo: She gets the 2 automatically. We would just have to give her the 6%.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. Alright.
Mr. Carollo: So that will be the motion, to increase the City Clerk's salary by
6% along with his assistant at 6%. Is that correct, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: And 2% in April for him.
Mr. Carollo: And comes April we will increase his salary 2% along with the City
Attorney's salary, 2%.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Now, under discussion. Now Ralph, as I said, I am voting with this,
but I need to ask you some questions. There are two questions I want to ask. One
is, when was the last time you a got a merit salary increase rather than a cost of
living increase?
Mr. Ongie: In 1979.
Mayor Ferre: 1979. How much was that?
Mr. Ongie: I don't remember the figure exactly, It was on the resolution that ap-
pointed me to the last term. I think it was probably 5 or 6 or 7 percent.
Mr. Carollo: 6%, Ralph.
Mr. Ongie; 6%.
Mr. Carollo: I am looking at at Knox's here so...
Mr. Ongie: It probably was somewhere around that figure.
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, so in effect, that was 1979. You went through 1980 and
you went through 1981, in effect, without any specific salary increases as such.
Alright, now, the second thing is, we need to go through an evaluation to with
you. I think what is true of George Knox and what will be true of the Manager
even though his is a little bit different, his is a contract, but we want to
go through an evaluation with you, so whenever you think it is appropriate,
you choose your time,whether it is in February or March, sometime in the next
two or three meetings, you ought to submit like Mr. Knox did, a memo as to your
activities and...
Mr. Ongie: I sent it to you about a week ago.
Mayor Ferre: I have not seen that. Have you all seen that?
Mr. Plummer: I haven't read it, if I have it.
Mayor Ferre: Well then, I need to read it and then we need to put it on the
agenda for discussion. Alright, are you ready to vote on this?
Mr. Carollo: I am ready to go. Maybe we can take his and george's i� at tje sa,e
time?
Mayor Ferre: Fine, that was your motion. Oh, you mean the evaluations. I
understand. Okay. But the motion stands. Further discussion? Call the roll
on the motion.
The preceding motion introduced by Commissioner Carollo and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer was passed and adopted by a unanimous vote.
Said motion was designated Motion No. 82-32.
See later confirming Resolution No. 82-54
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37. DISCUSSION OF SALARY OF MARIE PETIT, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE MAYOR.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Marie, would you get on the microphcxe so that I
can ask you a question here, on the record? Men was the last time that
you got an increase?
(INAUDIBLE RESPCNSE, STAn24Vr NOT PLACID nM THE PUBLIC FtDOMRD)
Mayor Ferre: What? Ten percent, when?
(INAUDIBLE RESPONSE, STATF3N M NOT PLC INM THE PUBLIC FOCORD)
Mayor Ferre: No, I'm not talking about ...you know, the cost of...I'm
talking about a salary increase, not the cost of living. (PAUSE) Well, do
you know or.don't you know?
Ms. Marie Petit: Apparently, I'm at the top of the range, so I don't get
one.
Mayor Ferre: When was the last time you got a salary increase?
Ms. Petit: Two years ago, other than the cost of living.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now, and I'm not being cute about this, Howard,
I'm very sincere about this. I know that Jack Eads makes $52,000..what?
$46,000, and Walter, how much are you making?
Mr. Walter Pearce: $41,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: $41,000, okay. And Matty is now making how much?
Ms. Hirai: $36,300.
Mayor Ferre: $36,000? Well, I just want to say on the record as saying
that the output that cams. ..as you know, the Mayor of Miami's job is a
part time job, and I am supposed to be working part-time but the staff that
works there is working full time- and I certainly think that in proportion to
the output of work that Marie Petit certainly puts out wre than ... how much
are you making now?
Ms. Petit: $33,000.
Mayor Ferre: $33,000? Now, I don't want to be pressing that at this time
but I really think that that is not eoariensurat:e to the importance of the job
and I don't know quite how to go about this, Howard, so I just want to make
the statement into the record that in my opinion, Marie should be making
closer to $40,000, now...
Mr. Carollo: Well, let's put it on the table. The responsibility that she
has in your office, Mr. Mayor, with the staff that you have up there could
be construed as almost being the equivalent of an Assistant City Manager in
charge of a Department. I am not trying to take anything from any of the
Assistant City Managers but I do know the responsibility that Marie has up
there and for every call we probably get in our office she probably gets
ten times as many, because I know every time we get one that complains too
much we send it up there to you.
Mayor Ferre: I aan glad to hear that, I hadn't figured that out yet.
Mr. Carollo: I guess everybody else does the same thing.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, and I think that in accordance with the effort that
she is making that she deserves a salary comparable with the Manager's staff
I think that she deserves —and I move your proposition for $40,000.
Mr. Plummer: You can't do it, it's at the tap of the range.
Mayor Ferre: We can't do it you say? Well, then trove her out of the
range..
Mr. Gary: You've got to let me do that
Mayor Ferre: Well, do you want to put it on the agenda for the next time?
Mr. Gaze: Let me sit and talk to her.
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Mayor Ferre: I think it's best if ... the Manager wants to sit down and
talk to her, that's all right, I've got no problem with that.
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APPROVE PROPOSED POLICY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PART: WEST AREA PROJECT.
Mayor Ferre; We are now on the discussion of Southeast Overtown/Park
West plan.
Mr. Carollo: What number are we on, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: Item F. Mr. Manager, I read the memorandum, sounds good to
me. Any further explanation on it?
Mr. James Reid: Just one fining, Mr. Mayor. I met with Cammissioner Dawkins
and in particular with some people that he has brought together. We are also
looking at the policy for the area north of the Transit Station as part of
this review, but we intent to work with the ocmrunity and get a consensus
on the plan and then cane back to this Cannission.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you what doesn't sound good to me, is that I don't
think we are making enough progress in hiring the staff that you need to hire
to be project managers. I really think that you need to pin that down in the
next month. i would hope that by the February meeting you will have two
people to reccnuiend to us as project managers for those projects because
without than on board, you don't have the time, believe me. Okay. Any
questions on that?
Mr. Da%-,kins: Move it.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: I don't think there is anything to vote on.
Mr. Dawkins: Then let's go to whatever else is next.
Mayor Ferre: Any votes on it, Howard? You don't need a vote do you?
Mr. Gary: No. I just want to have consensus from the City Camtission that
we are moving in the right direction and consistent with their policy.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's why I asked. Does anybody else have any questions?
As far as I'm concerned and...
Mr. Gary: Can I have a motion? I'd like a motion on this one, please.
Mayor Ferre: All right, it's been moved by Dawkins, and second by Carollo,
further discussion.... that the City sets a policy as established by the
memorandum that you have before you on item F. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION No. 82-33
A NOTION APPROVING THE ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY FOR DEVEIAP-
MEW OF THE SOUIYiEAST CVERTOWN/PARK WEST AREA PRaTDC'I' AS
PRESFI= BEFORE THE CITY CONNaSSION ON THIS DATE IN THE FORM
OF A MEMORA MUM SUBMI= TO THE CITY CaM IISSION.
Upon being seconded by Cam issioner Carollo, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Ccmnission{,_r J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Ccmaissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
DISCLSSIOi4 IM-1: CO1UZC'2IA.4 OF '.I?ASi: AM GAcRBAC c- .
Mayor Ferre: Trash and Garbage Collection. Ccumissioner Dawkins, this was
requested by you, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, at one of the meetings it was noted that we were
going to receive $300,000 for fill fran the County. Not being abreast of
where money goes and what have you, I would like to propose, in the event
that this would not cost a short fall in the funding or cause us to be _
short I would like to, of those $300,000, take $200,000 of it and hire...
it says that the starting salary of a trash collector is $13,500 and it goes
to something like $17,000. With that money we could hire approximately 11
waste collectors for a year instead of the part=time collection as we did
before on a part-time basis and take $50,000 to use to.. as maintenance on
the trash collection and take the other $50,000 and hire some more code en- =
forcement officers because in my neighborhood the biggest problem is not -
being able to enforce the law. And I would like to propose this, I've dis-
cussed it with the Manager on an unofficial mariner, but I would like to give
this to the Manager to study and review and care back and make a reearmmenda-
tion at the next meeting. Okay. _
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I assume you concur with this.
Mr. Gary: Yes, but I'd like to review it further and ogre back with a re-
oam>andation .
Mayor Ferre: Do you need a motion on that? I don't think you need a motion.
All right, is there anything else on this issue?
Mr. Gary: Yes, while we are talking about trash, I've submitted an informa-
tional memo to you informing you that we will be having a special trash pick-
up beginning this Saturday and continuing for the next two Saturdays there-
after. I think it's important for us at this time to realize that we have
moved from the once -a -week trash pick-up to a once -every -two weeks and that
there appears that we still have a problem in the City, particularly, in view
of violations of the Code as well as increased trash in the neighborhoods.
Now, we cannot continue on a long teen basis to utilize men on an overtime basis
namely, every Saturday, not only for morale problems but from a fiscal stand-
point of view. We think it's important for you to review the alternatives
that are available to us in teens of trying to improve trash collection. We
have submitted to you a proposal for a combined garbage and trash system and
we also have an alternative available to you with regards to adding on the
6 additional trash crews so that we can go back to the once -a -week pick-up.
I think it's important at this time for us to discuss these alternatives
and possibly the City Cannission can give us same direction as to haw to pro-
ceed. At this time I would like for Mr. Patterson to explain the alternatives
available to you in order to improve trash collection as well as the cost
associated with those alternatives.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Patterson.
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Mr. Clarence Patterson: Mr. Mayor, members of the City Cannission. We have
followed your instructions to look at sage alternatives in improved trash -
collection. As the Manager pointed out, due to fast budget constraints, of
course, we've gone fran once -a -week to twice -a -week trash collection in the
City. We've looked at alternatives as stop gap methods to go to substantial
overtime to maintain a reasonable collection during the highsum-
mer months of the year for approximately four months. This, of course, is
purely a stop gap rather than a permanent solution to the overall problem. We
looked at this overtime during the summer months which will cost us sane
$900,000 a year to do that for a four -month period and this would be working..
crews during their off days on a Saturday and on Wednesdays to maintain trash
collection approximately twice a week during those sLmTner months when we fall
eonsiaeranly Aeni na vie twice-a-v t k sc, mule that we are uoi mg inaw. WC don't
see that as.a solution, as a long-term solution to the problem. Instead what
you have before you, which we submitted to you and which we feel is a long
term solution to the problem, and that is the Report that you have before you
where we will combine both garbage and trash and collect then at the same time
on a twice -a -week basis. Also on the Report you will find that there is a
bulky waste collection program which will handle the bulky items on an on -call
basis at the individual citizen's request. You don't have a copy of the Report?
We feel that the combined approach which all other major metropolitan cities
throughout the United States have done over the years is the solution to a
cleaner City. We don't see the current method as being a method for keeping
the City of Miami clean for its citizens and for the tourists that we have
that visit with us each year. The current method, of course, is one that is
expensive and one that we have exhausted all of our resources trying to main-
tain a twice -a -week collection as we are now doing which the citizens are not
satisfied with. Just to do the 4 summer months of the year that we were talk-
ing about earlier will cost us roughly $1,000,000 for those 4 months to do
overtime and, at the same time, we will not be back to a once -a -week collec-
tion as we were once before. You don't have before you .... Jim, do we have
one of these?...We looked at another alternative to put back on additional
crews that we have had to cut off due to budget constraints which would cost
sane $2,100,000 to put us back to a once -a -week collection as we once were
before. Now, this $2,100,000 will put us back to a once -a -week trash collec-
tion. but I can tell you that we will still have trash out in the front of
homes as long as we allow transh to be deposited there at any time that a
citizen desires. And this $2,100,000 will continue to increase each year as
long as we use the current method of collecting trash in the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Clarence, let me interrupt you and ask you just a very simple
question.
Air. Patterson: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: How many major cities -vy major I mean the City of Miami or
larger- are there left in the United States that pick up garbage the way we
do?
Mr. Patterson: None, zero.
Mayor Ferre: Are we the only ones left in the country?
Mr. Patterson: You are the only major metropolitan city in the United States
collecting trash and garbage the way we do.
Mayor Ferre: I can't believe that. You mean to tell me that there is no
other city in this country that picks up garbage the way we do?
Mr. Patterson: No other city the size of Miami in the United States that
does that..
Mr. Carollo: Or larger.
Mr. Patterson: Or larger.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you something else. Fort Lauderdale changed about
4 or 5 years ago, right?
Mr. Patterson: That is correct.
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Mayor Ferre: And -that .includes white and black areas, and urban and sub-
urban and everybody.
Mr. Patterson: The entire City.
Mayor Ferre: Has there been a lot of flack about that?
Mr. Patterson: No, sir, they are perfectly satisfied with the system that
they have.
Mr. Carollo: Why can't he pick , Maurice, like we talked about the last time
that the subject came up at the budget hearing, maybe pick a target area....
Mayor Ferre: No, no, it's a lot more than that. This man, Clarence Patterson,his
Dept. were authorized not at this budget but at a previous budget hearing to start
doing this on a neighborhood basis and cage back to this Commission to report.'
Mr. Carollo: I recall that, I made the motion.
Mayor Ferre: I specifically mentioned at that time you ought to take Bay Point,
that you ought to take the black cc m zd ty, take a neighborhood in the black
omrunity, and take a neighborhood in the Latin community and institute the new
system to see how did it work. Now, that has never been done to the best of
my knowledge.
Mr. Patterson: Mr. Manager, if you remember, at that time this was with the
cart system.
Mayor Ferre: With the what?
Mr. Patterson: With the cart system, the roll out cart.
Mayor Ferre: 'That's right, and with the equipment on the truck to throw it
back and what have you.
Mr. Patterson: That's correct and that's the one that the Ccnmission, of
course, subsequent, when Ms. Rockafellar and sane others were here and they
were confused about the container system and the Camussion, of course,
directed us that the container was out.
Mayor Ferre: No, siree....
Mr. Patterson: Unless we went into the area and got a two thirds signatures
of a given area which was willing to test it at that time.
Mayor Ferre: And you couldn't find any areas where you could get a test.
Mr. Patterson: We went out and we worked with Ms. Spillman and same of
the City's target areas and other community groups around the City and they
showed an interest in it but in order for us to go out and do the gathering
of the two thirds signatures, we didn't have adequate staff to do that and
we didn't find a conmunity-based organization who was willing to collect
the two thirds signatures.
Mayor Ferre: Now, I would like to inform you, Mr. Patterson, that this is
the first time that the Mayor of your City has been informed of that very
pertinent fact. Now, is that because you think the Mayor is clairvoyant
and knows how to read minds or is it becuuse you were relying on the City
Manager to inform the Mayor, or was it a nv=randum that perhaps I, inad-
vertently, have not read informing of all this? -
Mr. Patterson: Mr. Mayor, I think what happened is that samething got lost
in the transition with the two or three different Managers in the period of
time that we are talking about here. I did report back to the Manager on
our actions.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that's acceptable. You did tell the Manager, the Manager
is no longer here.
Mr. Plummer: How long are we going to accept the pop --out from all this high-
priced help that it was the last guy?
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Mayor Ferre: Two years.
Mr. Plummer: Two years? You are gone in 2.4 years.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that's scmething that is very difficult to argue against.
I certainly hope, since the problem is not going away, that you would keep
this Cammussion informed, when these important developments happen. I'll tell
you Pat, that if I had known what I just found out I think I would have pro-
bably brought this back for further discussion by this Cam fission, especially
if we are the only City in America left doing it the good old way and it's
costing us $2,200,000 more and going up every day, and we could save $5,000,000
by going to a mechanized system. I mean, I know ... and I want to express that
the only reason that I really felt so strongly about this is because Don Petit,
Marie's husband, has threatened my life and he has to carry the garbage to the
front of the lawn. You know, it may be time for us to reconsider all of this.
Mr. Perez: 'Mr. Mayor, I wish to point out that I received in the first 3
weeks in office more than an average of 20 calls per day of different cram -
plaints of people interested. I think that the trash and garbage collection
has to be a priority of this Commission because that is a concern of our a:n-
munity and I personally propose that we send to the Manager's office this
proposal in order to have his recommendation for the next Commission meeting.
I think that that is a priority in our omaunity. I have received no less.
than 200 calls. Every neighborhood that you visit you have different com-
plaints and I visited yesterday Mr. Patterson, in his Department, and I am
very proud for the service and the organization that he has there. And I
think that it is important to have a strong recommendation on this matter.
Mayor Ferre: I have not read this memorandum. I assume that you are not
recazrending to go back to the mechanized system here.
Mr. Patterson: We are not talking about the wheel container here, Mr.
Mayor. We are talking about the conventional method but a different method
.from the method that we are currently utilizing.
Mayor Ferre: Does there have to be a container purchased in this sytean?
Mr. Patterson: No, sir. This is similar to what Metropolitan Dade County
is doing right now and what most of the metropolitan cities are doing through-
out ti-�e country.
Mayor Ferre: Do you put your trash in a plastic bag?
Mr. Patterson: You put your trash, garbage, boxes, or what have you, all
ow -biped together and it's all picked -up on a twice -a -week basis.
Mayor Ferre: I suppose I don't want to put my trash in a bag , I just cut
trees and throw them out in the front of the street.
Mr. Patterson: Then we would have to send an inspector by and work with the
citizen on that because that would not be allowed in this system.
Mayor Ferre: How many inspectors are you going to add?
Mr. Patterson: How many do we have? We have a total of 7 right now.
Mayor Ferre: And how many are you going to add 70?
Air. Patterson: No, we are not proposing to add any additional inspectors.
I think we can do it with the inspectors that we now have. I think it is
a matter of educating the public through various brochures and so forth and
what it takes to keep our City clean, and, of course, w9 can then concentrate
on just the violators and not have to allow this by observation.
Mayor Ferre: Pat, if we do this this way, are we going to save $2,000,000?
Mr. Patterson: You will save $2,000,000, but this plan, Mr. Mayor, I might
point out will ultimately require less people to do the wvrk than we current-
ly are employing and what I have reccmTended here is that we not lay off
anybody as the result of this plan. We would reduce the work force over a
three year period by natural attrition, this way not having to lay off any
one at the present time.
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Mayor Ferre: Are , supporting this program? ... MitL ► are you supporting
this?
Mr. Dawkins: The only thing that I would like to ask, Mr. Patterson, is -
isn't this the same plan that the voters turned down? And if it is, how can
you take 7 people and enforce the people who voted against it to concur with
it?
Mayor Ferre: This has never been put to a vote. When was it put to a vote?
Front yard pick-up?
Mr. Patterson: I awn trying to answer the Commissioner. This was never put
to a vote as far as the people are concerned in the City go Miami, no. And
the plan that was presented before, Commissioner Dawkins, was utilizing the
wheel container, the cart, and this was the one that it was at the time whom
we were increasing the waste fee at the time that the budget was being adapted
and there was sore misunderstanding on the part of the citizens that the waste
fee was to purchase the container and therefore they didn't want the container
and they thought that the fee was to purchase the container and, of course,
the container was at that time we were talking about using sane bond funds
to purchase the containers and not the waste fee which was to pay Metropolitan
Dade County for this total. We are proposing, Commissioner Plummer, to im-
plement identically the same system here that Metropolitan Dade County has.
M. Plummer: And that's to put it out at the curb?
Mr. Patterson: Yes. Combined.
mr. Plummer: When hell freezes over.
Mr. Gary: I think it's also important ... let us give you our position. I
think it's also important to inform you that there are some added benefits
to this sytem in addition to the constant pick up of trash and garbage t:oge-
hher, which we now pick up twice a week. Another benefit is that we plan
to increase the street sweeping and for curb -side streets throughout the City,
clean also under express ways and right-of-ways which is not being done right
now.
Mayor Ferre: Howard, we need to rove because we've got an awful lot of
important things to do. I know that this is a very, very crucial decision...
Mr. Plug: Hey, I have no problern, and I want to get it on the record...
Mayor Ferre: ...that needs to be made and I want to tell you that I am going
to vote for it.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem if you want to go to increasing the amount
of containers, put trash into the containers into the backyard I have no Pro-
blem with that, but in no way I am going to vote to put that stuff out there
and watch the dogs rip it apart, you know, and trash all over the street, have
all these people caning down here screaming. I want to tell you, to me it
looks horrible to drive down a County street and see all that garbage as
your neon sign.
Mayor Ferre: Pete, I want to tell you, you know that I have been struggling
with this thing for 7 years, and I want you to know that there is not one
City left in America that picks up trash and garbage the way we do, and you
no longer have my vote, I awn not going to —we are losing...we cannot afford
it, this is 1982, it is all over. Now, you work on his vote, and his vote,
and his vote, you don't have mine.
Mr. Dwkins: The only problem I have is -and if, as explained to me I will
buy it- is what difference does it make if I put all of my stuff in one
container and put it in the back yard or if I put it all in one container
and put it in the front yard, it still has to be picked up.
Mayor Ferre: $2,000,000 different, that i what it means.
Mr. Dawkins: I can't believe it.
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Mr. Patterson: The difference, Commissioner Dawkins is that you have just
doubled your cost. It takes twice as many people to pick it fran the back
yard
Mr. Dawkins: But you have also doubled my garbage tax already.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but the point is, if there isn't anybody left in the country
that does it that way, except us. So, we are unique and it costs $20,000,000 a
year.
Mr. Dawkins: You just said $2,000,000 now.
Mayor Ferre: The total of this man's department is $20,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins: So he went from 20 to 18, so we are talking about $18,000,000.
Mayor Ferrer' It is $5,000,000, as I recall the statement during budget time
that we had a mechanized system today, which we don't, that the difference in
costs would be $5,000,000 less.
Mr. Carollo: It is initiated probably the third or fourth year, right? That is
first, because we would have to buy all that new equipment.
(INAUDIBLE CCM EW - NOT ON MICROPHONE)
Mr. Carollo: That is what I said three years ago and you didn't listen to me,
so I am not going to listen to you now. I am going to pay you back.
Mr. Gary: If I can, before he begins, I want to get opposition out and then we
will listen to them, if you don't mind, Mr. Mayor. The first year's savings
will be 2.8 million dollars and it compounds every year because you don't have
to do that, you have inflation.
Mr. Dawkins: The only problem I have with this, and let me say it and I will be
through with it. Every damn time there is a budget cut, it is the Black people
who have to suffer and I have a damn problem with that and I may as well tell
the Manager, Mr. Patterson and everybody else, that any damn time this city has
to save money, you pick the lowest people on the pole, which is the Black people
and now we start talking about cutting. Why in the hell don't you cut soreplaee
else and tell me about saving $5,000,000. Don't save the $5,000,000 here. Find
someplace else in the budget to save.
Mr. Gary: If, I may, the plan also calls not for inrLediate termination, but calls
for reduction through attrition.
Mr. Dawkins: In the end, Mr. Manager, it is still 90€ Black people where you are
talking about cutting and I know sore areas around here that are 90% White and
don't nobody talk about cutting.
Mr. Gary: If I may, we are not doing this as a color or racial issue; we are
looking at it in terms of management and I would hope that we would proceed
with management efficiency in other departments as we do with this one. And we
have done it with police, we have done it with finance, and we are going to be
doing it with others.
Mr. Patterson: Mr. Mayor, in addition to what the Manager pointed out, I have
a total of 25 years in this business, and I can assure you and this ccnT dssicn,
without regard to color or race or sex here, that we are talking about keeping
the City of Miami clean. I cdn assure you and tell you that from my professional
opinion, there is no way under God's creation can we keep the City of Miami clean
by the method that we are currently using. The method is totally antiquated. It
is not used anyplace else in the United States and you could pour all the money
you want into this department. As long as you allow people to walk out and throw
garbage and trash into the streets in this city, you are going to have a dirty
city. I am proposing a method by which we can keep a cleaner city.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me say this and I will be finished. Effective December 5th,
the following vacancies existed in the Solid Waste Department: 1 foreman, 1
waste equipment operator, 10 waste collectors -operators, 30 waste collectors.
30 & 10 is 40, that is 42 people. Can you show me another department that has
42 vacancies in it?
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Mr. Joffre: Mayor, can we get a chance to rebate here?
Mayor Ferre: Yes sir. Pat, are you finished with your statement now?
Mr. Patterson: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Joffre: Peter Joffre from Sanitation Employee's Association. We are for-
getting one thing. The last few years we keep cutting down little by little
by men. Your equipment on the trash has not been replaced. Always, I would
say that the department has the thought that we are going to go in to curb-
side; we are going to go into another kind of system. Thing has been let down,
people have been cut. We have people in every category working out of class.
We have 40 vacancies right now in the department. It has all been cut off,from
this year's budget. Mr. Patterson talks about the idea of pickups on the curbs,
like Metro does. Metro has little mini -dumps. We don't have mini -dumps in the
City of Miami. Where are these people going to take the trash? You are talking
about - you take S. W. 2nd Street, 3rd Street N. W. where the people are caught,
park their cars. When it comes to the next day, they put their garbage out the
night before, you are just going to have more trash on the street then anything
else, because your parking facilities. All we are asking for, is give us man,
either what is one the budget. With $600,000 more, we could go to one a week
pickup and you could have a crane with special pickup north and south and give
us some new equipment. We haven't had equipment - and I will take any of the
Commissioners or anybody - to show you what kind of cranes we have back there.
If you get ocean out there, if you pass two cranes out there, you have a lot.
Everyone of those cranes leaks oil all over the place. And I will take anyone,
anyone of the Commissioners....
Mayor Ferre: I am not smart enough and I don't know enough about this particular
business to give you an answer, or anybody an answer. All I know is this: this
city is dirty. Trash and garbage is not being picked up properly. Now, I don't
know who is to blame, or what is to blame, but we have got to do something drastic
to change it. Now, if what we need to do is get two more million dollars, than I
need somebody to tell me how and where we are going to get $2,000,000, when we have
a reduction of monies coming in from Washington, okay? And a reduction of all types
of monies available from the City.'iow absent this, the only other alternative is,
to change an anachronistic system which is the only one left in America, and that
is the old fashioned hand backyard pickup. We are not doing it because we don't
have the money. We don't have the equipment. Now, if somebody doesn't come up
with an answer for more money, then we have got to go to a new system.
Mr. Joffre: Mayor, we are also the only southern city, one city, where trash and
grass grow more than any other place in the country, all year around. Ft. Lauder-
dale has a lot of alleys. Miami Shores has a lot of alleys, but the trucks go right
by and pick it up. Do we have this in the City of Miami? We don't. Miami Shores,
do they have apartment houses? Not as many as we do in Miami. You go down to S. W.
2nd St 6 1st Street, N. W., and you can't even find a parking spot. Imagine those
garbage cans put out the night before?
Mayor Ferre: Does Coral Gables pick up garbage the way we do?
Mr. Joffre: They pick up trash the way we do.
Mayor Ferre: But they don't pick up garbage the way we do.
Mr. Joffre: But Coral Gables is a different city compared to Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Does Metropolitan Dade County pick up garbage and trash the way we
do?
Mr. Smith: If you look at the county as a whole, it is a lot dirtier than the
City of Miami. You take the county and take cert ain areas and look at it.This trash
pile that sits in the county where people pay rent and don't give a darn whether
the trash pile gets picked up or not and the land owner is not there and the pile
has been there for two years:
Mayor Ferre: I wish I knew what the answer was. I can only go by the recommenda-
tion of the Administration and I am only speaking for one, but Mr. Patterson and
his boss, Mr. Gary have my vote of confidence.
Mr. Plummer: Call the question. Is there a question to be called?
Mr. Smith: Okay, but since 1977...... they have been hacking away.
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Mr. Plummer: You are wasting your time, and mine. Is there a vote to be taken?
Mayor Ferre: There has to be a motion.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that we maintain our present system of sanitation,
what is the word - service?
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? He is saying that we stay as we are.
Mr. Plummer: That we maintain the same sanitation service.
Mayor Ferre: You had better get Carollo in here; get everybody in here.
Okay, on the motion. You may get your way - you may get 3 votes here. Okay,
further discussion?
Mr. Carollo:- I can certainly understand their point. Clarence, what I would
like for you to do,... I think that we have enough time to maybe reach a reasonable
compromise that would be satisfactory to the union people, the sanitation depart-
ment, to the Commission and to the staff. What I would like to do is to get in
paper a complete plan, including every figure you can think of, not what we are
going to save now, but for the first 10 years of this plan, because for the first
2 or 3 years we are not going to be having much savings, because of the initial
outlay we are going to make on the equipment. Was this the idea? I still would
like to get a report on the other idea, but until I get something that is ex-
tremely clear .....
Mayor Ferre: Do you want to talk to Joanne Holzhauser about this?
Mr. Carollo: No, please. I am going to have to vote no. The truth of the matter,
Clarence is that I just don't see convincing a lot of people out there on this at
this point in time and you are going to have to do a .... I talk what he is talking
about. He is not talking about initial equipment, I know that. You are talking
about pickup in the front.
Mayor Ferre: No, he is talking about combining trash and garbage. I want to
tell you something.
Mr. Carollo: Combine trash & garbage? And they will pick up two times a year again?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, wait, I want to tell you something. Mr. Manager, this is your
fault. Mr. Patterson, this is your fault. You know why it is your fault? Some-
thing as important as this, you send a memorandum - as important as this - to the
members of the Commission. Nobody on this Commission has read this memorandum,
including me. Okay? Now, if you had not taken the time to go sit at his doorstep
and at his doorstep and his - alright you are the exception here - he hadn't dis-
cussed it with me, and he hadn't discussed it with him, and he hadn't discussed
it with him and we are voting on something without knowing what we are voting on
and it is your fault for not having made yourself a little bit clearer. Now, I
glanced over it and understand what you are talking about, but I will tell you,
that is no way to run an airline
Mr. Plummer: What you are proposing is to go to a combined trash & garbage front
yard pickup.
Mr. Patterson: That's right, with bulky waste collection and with increased
street sweeping.
Mr. Plummer: But basically, the big major change is combining trash & garbage
and putting it in the front yard.
Mr. Patterson: That is correct. This is without the wheel container, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: I will be honest with you Clarence, until I sit down with you and
you explain it a lot clearer to me, from what I see about this, I am not in the
mood for any suicidal votes right now.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion to put this thing off then, until the next hearing.
Mr. Carollo: I would prefer to make a motion to put it off, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: It has been moved and seconded that this item be deferred until
the February llth meeting. Further discussion.
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THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly made by Commissioner
Carollo, and seconded by Commissioner Plummer UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO
DEFER THIS ISSUE until February 11, 1982 Commission meeting.
AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Do your homework better next time, would you please?
Mr. Joffre: Mr. Mayor, one question, can we get any information that the depart-
ment will get to you so that we can possibly prepare ourselves with it?
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely. Whatever yousend to the Commission, you send to them at
the same time. Alright. Is that understood?
Mr. Joffre: :So we can be prepared next time. I have a lot of hard time trying to
get some information in the department.
Mayor Ferre: Whenever he get a memo, whenever I get a memo, at the same time he
gets a memo, okay? Same memo.
40.
APPOINT RALPH GISBERT AS A ,tEIMBEP. OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
COMMENDING LESLIE PANTIN FOR HIS SERVICE ON THE BOARD.
Mr. Carollo: This is a resolution appointing one member to the Civil Service
Board in the City of Miami, Florida.
Mayor Ferre: Appointment of one member to the Civil Service Board. Alright,
the Chair is open for recommendations. You have all received a letter from
Leslie Pantin, and for the record I will read it into the record. It says:
"January 14 - Dear Maurice b Commissioners: After careful deliberation, I have
decided not to seek appointment to another term in the City of Miami's Civil
Service Board. My commitment with the Carnival Miami, my business and other
civic activities are putting a strain on my schedule. I have enjoyed serving
the Civil Service Board and I look forward to serving the City of Miami.
Sincerely, Leslie Pantin, Jr." I would like to make a motion of commendation
and appreciation to Mr. Leslie Pantin, Jr. for his past services on the City of
Miami Civil Service Board and wish him the very best.
Mr. Carollo: I second that, Mr. Mayor.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-34
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION COMMENDING MR. LESLIE PANTIN, JR.
FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICES TO THE CITY OF MIAMI WHILE A MEMBER OF
THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
Mayor Ferre: The Chair is now open for nominations to the Civil Service Board.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would like to nominate Mr. Ralph Gisbert.
Mayor Ferre: Ralph Gisbert. Alright, you have, as I understand it, his resume.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, Mr. Mayor, the members of the Commission have his application.
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Mayor Ferre: I wou a like to nominate Hilda Esther--4ovides, 23 year old U. S.
citizen, married, lives in the City of Miami, is a graduate of FIU and her job -
she has been a purchasing agent and she submitted her name. Are there any other
nominees? Get a piece of paper and write the name of your choice.
Mr. Plummer: Are either one of the parties here?
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Gisbert is here, Mr. Mayor. He took an interest in it.
Mayor Ferre: Hilda Beovides was here, and her father was here and let me know
that he was here.
Mayor Ferre: Ralph Gisbert.
Mr. Plummer: How long have you worked for the State of Florida?
Mr. Gisbert: 4 years.
Mr. Plummer:. 4 years? Just so we don't have any problems later. Mr. City At-
torney, there is no conflict existing between an employee of the State of Florida
holding the Civil Service Board?
Mr. Knox: Not that I know of.
Mavor Ferre: Mr. Gisbert, how old are you?
Mr. Gisbert: I am 28.
Mayor Ferre: 28, and you have had this job with the state for 4 years?
Mr. Gisbert: That is correct. I worked 2 years with the Department of Correction -
as a probation and parole officL@r and 2 years with the Florida Department of State. -
Mayor Ferre: Florida Department of what?
Mr. Gisbert: Department of State, office of the Secretary of the State of Florida.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. Okay.
Mr. Carollo: He is an investigator for that Department, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, and your educational background, because it is not on this
record.
Mr. Gisbert: I have a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and I have also completed
worK toward a master's degree in Public Administration at FIU.
Mavor Ferre: At FIU. Both at FIU?
Mr. Gisbert: No, my Bachelor of.Arts is from the City University of New York.
Mayor Ferre: And you are a Latin, as I understand it, and you are bilingual.
Mr. Gisbert: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: But you are Latin?
Mr. Gisbert: Yes, I was born in Havana, Cuba, but I am a U. S. citizen.
Mr. Plummer: The Mayor asked a question were you Latin and you said no, I am
bilingual. You can be bilingual without being Latin.
Mayor Ferre: He was born in Havana, Cuba. That makes him Latin. That is good
enough for me.
Mr. Plummer: I heard a different argument on another individual.
Mayor Ferre: I was talking about whether or not he is a Latin. I mean, having
been born in Havana, Cuba, I think classifies him, as far as I am concerned as
a Cuban -American.
Mr. Plummer: Will you hold that true in the Police Department?
Mayor Ferre: For the record, when Ifound out that Major Alba was born in Havana.
Cuba, I stood corrected, that he is a Cuban -American, no question about it. I
didn't realize that at first. Now, I think the importance of this is that it
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is good to have a balance on the Civil Service Board. And I think it is impor-
tant. Alright, do you have the tally?
Mr. Ongie: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: Announce the result.
Mr. Ongie: First ballot, Mr. Gisbert. Gisbert has received 4 votes from
Commissioner Plummer, Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner Dawkins and Commissioner
Perez. Hilda Beovides received 1 vote from Mayor Ferre.
Mr. Carollo: Congratulations.
Mr. Gisbert: Thank you, Commissioners.
Mayor Ferre:: Okay, anything else?
Mr. Ongie: We have to pass a resolution for that, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Carollo: Shall I make a motion for that? -
Mayor Ferre: For the record, make a motion on that Joe. Is there a second?
Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo , who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-35
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING ONE MEMBER TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: RALPH GISBERT WAS APPOINTED TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
41.
DISCUSSION ITEM. CITY C0r?`ISSION FETING GUIDELINES.
Mayor Ferre: On Item "M", Mr. Manager, what you sent here was a transcript of
City of Miami Commission discussions. What I would like for you to do, which
I thought it was understood, and I think Jack Eads can do that very well. It
is for him to take that and put it into a specific memorandum form, to go to
each member of this Commission to get their input and to put it into a specific
resolution if you would and I figure there is no reason we can't do that at
the next meeting on the 28th, even though it is a zoning meeting. Do you have any
problems with that?
Mr. Plummer: Are we quitting at 9:00 o'clock?
Mayor Ferre: We
Mayor Ferre: (con't) Angela Bellamy did an awful lot of work on this. She
spent months and months on this.
Mr. Gary: Yes, but you haven't accepted it. You thought it was a bad plan.
Mayor Ferre: Nobody ever discussed it. I never saw it.
Mr. Gary: It is in the minutes. I will get that for you.
Mayor Ferre: I think that Jack or Walter or one, or whoever you are going to
assign this to, should put all this together and discuss it with each member of
the Commmission and bring it back in resolution form.
42. ACCEPT BID: TRUSTEE SERVICES OF PROPOSED CALL OF PARKIIIG
GARAGE REVENUE BOITDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: On Item 29, is there a motion? Moved by Carollo, second by
Perez; further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo , who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-36
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE ATTACHED BID PROPOSAL OF BARNETT
BANK AND TRUST COMPANY, N.A., TO ACT AS FISCAL AGENT FOR THE
PROPOSED SALE AND DURING THE 25-YEAR LIFE OF PARKING GARAGE
REVENUE BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000,000; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID BANK IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SAID BID, WITH FUNDS FOR SAID
SERVICES TO BE DERIVED FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE OF SAID
BONDS.
(Here foilows body of resolution.. omitted here and on file in
the Office of the City Clerk). —
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
43. AUTHORIZE INCREASE IF, CONTRACT: EVENSON DODGE I:IC. FOR HOUSING
FINANCIAL ADVISORY SERVICES FOP. PRODUCTION OF LOW/MODERATE
INCOMES.
Mayor Ferre: Agenda Item No. 32 - an increase in the contract of $30,000 between
the City and Evenson-Dodge providing housing financial advisory services. Is
there a motion? Moved by Perez, second by Carollo. Further discussion. Call
the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Perez , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-37
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $30,000 BETWEEN THE CITY OF `:I?:II AND
EVENSON-DODGE, INC. FOR PROVIDING HOUSING FINANCIAL ADVISORY
SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE PRODUCTION OF HOUSING FOR LOW
AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES: SAID FUNDS TO BE PROVIDED EN-
TIRELY FROM THE GENERAL O ;jjATIOA HOUSING BOND FUND. `� . i 1�Q�
(Here foAw3 body of resolution, omittei.4re and on file
in the 011'ice of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
44.
ACCEPT BID: AUTOMOTIVE DRIVE ON RACE.
Mayor Ferre: Take up Item No. 48. Is there a motion? Perez moves, Plummer
seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Perez , who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-38
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MARION EDWARDS AUTO PAINT
SUPPLY, INC. FOR FURNISHING ONE AUTOMOTIVE DRIVE -ON RACK TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING & VEHICLE MAINTENANCE; AT A TOTAL
COST OF $31,525.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1981-82
OPERATING BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MAN-
AGER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR
THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
45.
ACCEPT BID: MOTOR VEHICLES.
Mayor Ferre: Take up 49. Moved by Dawkins, seconded by Perez. Further
discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 82-39
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS FOR FURNISHING AUTO-
MOTIVE EQUIPMENT ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE YEAR
FROM DATE OF AWARD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND —
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE WITH INITIAL PURCHASES AS FOLLOWS:
BID OF FRIENDLY FORD, INC. FOR 86 VEHICLES AT A COST
OF $666,525.00; BID OF MAX GROSSO CHRYSLER PLYMOUTH,
INC. FOR 49 VEHICLES AT A COST OF $287,165.57; BID
OF REGENCY DODGE, INC. FOR 26 VEHICLES AT A COST OF
$203,779.76; BID OF DEBRA TURF & INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT, _
INC. FOR 5 VEHICLES AT A COST OF $221475.00; BID OF
HARLEY DAVIDSON OF MIAMI, INC. FOR 8 VEHICLES AT A
COST OF $41,480.00; BID OF HONDA NORTH FOR 4 VEHICLES
AT A COST OF $21,000.00; BID OF VESPA HONDA OF MIAMI,
INC. FOR 31 VEHICLES AT A COST OF $44,206.00; AT A
TOTAL COST OF $1,286,631.33; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR
FROM THE 1981-82 OPERATING BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,236,239.479from L.E.A.A. GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT
OF $34,606.86, AND FROM PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES IN
THE AMOUNT OF $15,785.00; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANA-
GER AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE
ORDERSFOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here .ollowG body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
46.
ACCLPT BID: DA': CARE FOOD PROGP.A",.
Mayor Ferre: Take up 50. Moved by Plummer, seconded by Dawkins. Call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-40
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DIETCRAFT, INC. FOR FURNISHING
MEALS AT THE 4 CITY DAY CARE CENTERS ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE
YEAR TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LEISURE SERVICES AT A TOTAL ESTIMATED
COST OF $64,073.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM A U.S. DEPART-
MENT OF EDUCATION: AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PURCHASING
AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None 147
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NOTE FOR RECORD: kbDA ITEM 45 WAS PASSED AND ADNTED AT THIS POINT BUT WAS
LATER RESCINDED DURING THIS MEETING.
47.
FIRST & SECOIdD READING ORDIiANCE: LOCAL GOVERNMNT CRIME
CONTROL PROGW, ..
Mayor Ferre: We are now on Item No. 22. This is the police item with the
$356,000. Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Anybody have any problems with this
now. Joe, are you alright on this?
Mr. Carollo: This is the...
Yr. Plummer:. That is the one if you don't use, you lose.
Mr. Carollo: That includes a variety of different events. Just for the record,
Mr. Manager, can you go briefly - say what they are?
Mr. Gary: One is a crime prevention program, another is a marine patrol boat,
another one is a response equipment vehicle, another one is a mass arrest vehicle,
another one is a security vehicle for rescue of human beings and bombs.
Mr. Carollo: Okay. I move.
Mayor Ferre: It has been moved and seconded. Further -discussion? Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW TRUST AND AGENCY ACCOUNT
ENTITLED "LOCAL GOVERNMENT CRIME CONTROL PROGRAM", AND
APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME IN THE
AMOUNT OF $356,192; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE: AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT
OF READING SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS
THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Perez,
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days =
by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Perez, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9364
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves Item No. 35. Is there a second. Second by Perez.
Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-41
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMEND-
MENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO, TO THE JUNE 21,
1978 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND ROBERT M. WEBSTER, AS A FIRE _
COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND RECORDS CONSULTANT, AT A SALARY OF $7,200
PER YEAR FOR A TERM NOT TO EXCEED 3 YEARS, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM THE 1976 AND 1981 CITY OF MIAMI FIREFIGHTING, FIRE
PREVENTION AND RESCUE FACILITIES BOND SALES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
49.
?.CCEPT BID: OFFICE FUF.;ITURE FOR THE FINA!'CL DEPARTMENT.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager wants 51 & 52. Moved by Dawkins.
Mr. Plummer: Why is that such an emergency?
Mr. Gary: It is an emergency because I got some bids that are going to run out
and I've got to go and re -bid and the prices are going to go up.
Mr. Plummer: Oh no.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion on 51. There is a second on it. Further dis-
cussion'. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-42
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF THOMAS W. RUFF & CO. FOR
FURNISHING OFFICE FURNITURE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE -
GENERAL ACCOUNTING AND PENSION ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL
COST OF $76,884.40; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM FLORIDA
POWER AND LIGHT FRANCHISE FEES; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
Mayor Ferre: Take up 52. Is there a motion? Moved & seconded. Further
discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0. 82-43
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF J & G ASSOCIATES, INC. IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $230,186, BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL,
FOR CITY HALL - FINANCE OFFICE RENOVATIONS - 1981 ORD BIDDING);
WITH MONIES THEREFOR TO BE PROVIDED FROM THE "CAPITAL IMPROVE- _
MENT FUND" IN THE AMOUNT OF $230,186 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST;
ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $5,214 TO COVER THE COST
OF PROJECT EXPENSE: ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF —
$4,600 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING
LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE: AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. —
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: Hallelujah! We have been trying to get this for 3 years. What
do you mean what the hell happened to you? I vote yes. (laughter)
51.
FIRST & SECOND READING ORDINANCE: A_IDPROP::IATINC FROM UNALLO-
CATED FP&L FUNDS TO INCP.EASE APPROPRIATION FOP. RE11OVATION Or
GENERAL ACCOUiN'TIUG.
Mayor Ferre: Are we going to do Item No. 24 or not?
Mr. Carollo: I will make a motion on 24.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion on Item No. 24. Is there a second? Second
by Perez. Further discussion? Read the ordinance.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9353, ADOPTED
NOVEMBER 19, 1981, THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIA-
TIONS ORDINANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 1981-82; BY APPROPRIATING AN
AMOUNT OF $160,000, FROM UNALLOCATED FY 1982 FLORIDA POWER 6
LIGHT FRANCHISE EARNINGS, TO INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR
PROJECT IX.B.i23, RENOVATION OF GENERAL ACCOUNTING: CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING
WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SAME ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY
A VOTE OF NO LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMISSION:
Was introduced by Commissioner Carollo and seconded by Commissioner Perez,
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days
by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mavor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Carollo and seconded by
Commissioner Perez, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Vice -Manor Joe Carollo
Mavor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9365
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced
that copies were available to the members of the City_ Commission and copies
were available to the public.
52. EMERGENCY ORDI:�AXE: OPEP.ATIO:; OF MARII-7E STADIUM.
Mayor Ferre: Take up Item No. 23"B". Is there a motion on that.
Mr. Gary: These monies are needed to continue to maintain the Marine Stadium,
because we don't have a contract with the Concessionaire.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Is there a second? Further discussion? Read the
ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9321 ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 24, 1981, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1982, AS
AMENDED, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE ENTERPRISE
FUND, IN THE AMOUNT OF $122,200 FOR MARINE STADIUM, AND BY
INCREASING ENTERPRISE FUND REVENUE IN THE SAME AMOUNT FROM
FACILITY RENTALS ($62,500), CONCESSION REVENUE ($42,000) AND
REIMBURSEMENT REVENUE ($17,000) AT MARINE STADIUM FOR THE
PURPOSE OF OPERATING SAME FOR THE REMAINDER OF FY '82; CONTAIN-
ING A REPEALER PROVISION; AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
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Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed
to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Dawkins, adopted said Ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 9366.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and an-
nounced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
53.
FIRST d SECOi;D READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPP,IATIOt; OF THE
MAYORS OFFICE - 1 POSITION.
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Mayor Ferre: Take up 23"A". Plummer moves. Perez seconds. Further discussion.
Read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9321 ADOPTED
SEPTEMBER 24, 1981, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1982, AS AMENDED, BY IN-
CREASING THE APPROPRIATION IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 AND BY DECREASING THE APPROPRI-
ATION FOR SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENCY FUND IN
THE LIKE AMOUNT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING IN THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE IN ORDER TO RESTORE ONE POSITION VACATED IN SAID
OFFICE; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION, AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE; AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SAME ON
TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR FIFTHS OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Perez,
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days
by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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Whereupon the *mission on motion of Commissict Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Perez, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9367
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
NOTE FOR RECORD: AGENDA ITEM NO. 65 WAS CONTINUED.
54.
ACCEPT BID: KIRXLAWD SANITARY SEWER SR-5478-C
Mayor Ferre: Item No. 66, Kirkland Sanitary Sewer - Roenca Corporation, the
low bid was $1,431,590. Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-44
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROENCA CORPORATION IN THE
PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $1,431,590, BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR
KIRKLAND SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN KIRKLAND SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5478-C (CENTERLINE SEWER); WITH MONIES
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "SANITARY SEWER G.O. BOND FUND" IN
THE AMOUNT OF $1,431,590 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST: ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $157,475 TO COVER THE COST OF PRO-
JECT EXPENSE: ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $28,630
TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORA-
TORIES, AND POSTAGE: ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF
$59,305 TO COVER THE INDIRECT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
55.
ACCEPT BID: A: RICAN SQUAP.E PXCP.EAiIOi: BUILDING - MODIrICATIONS
Mayor Ferre: Item No. 69. Mr. Dawkins moves. Perez seconds.
Mr. Plummer: I have no figures in mine. Anybody else have figures in theirs?
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Mr. Gary: $147,00
4s I recall the figure.
Mayor Ferre: $136,000.
Mr. Gary: $147,000 or $136,000. $147,000.
Mr. Plummer: $147,000?
Mayor Ferre: What was the estimate?
Mr. Grimm: $100,000. It went over.
Mayor Ferre: This is $100,000 over the estimate?
Mr. Grimm: No, $47,000 over.
Mr. Plummer: 50%:
Mayor Ferre: Are you recommending this?
Mr. Gary: Yes sir. The reason is we had to postpone. We had to do the roof first.
The cost went up.
Mayor Ferre: Is this the low bid?
Mr. Gary: Yes sir.
Mayor Ferre: How many bidders?
Mr. Grimm: Three.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82--45
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MET CONSTRUCTION, INC. IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $147,661.00, L,SE BID OF THE PROPOSAL,
FOR AFRICAN SQUARE RECREATION BUILDING - MODIFICATIONS; WITH
MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOP-
MENT BLOCK GRANT" IN THE AMOUNT OF $147,661.00 TO COVER THE
CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $20,673.00
TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND
THE AMOUNT OF $2,953.00 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS AD-
VERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A COANTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the. City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
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56•SECOiiD PEADING ORDINANCE: AMEND APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
OPERATING COSTS OF LITTLE HAVANA COrI WITY CENTER
Mayor Ferre: Item 17, is there a motion on it? It was moved my Carollo and
seconded by Plummer. Plummer, do you want to move it this time?
Mr. Gary: We need this for the Little Havana Center in order to keep & maintain
that facility.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 1 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 9321
ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 24, 1981, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1982, AS AMENDED, BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IN THE AMOUNT
OF $132,500 FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND BY IN-
CREASING GENERAL FUND REVENUES IN THE SAME AMOUNT FROM FY '81
FUND BALANCE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING ($42,000) TO
REIMBURSE SAID DEPARTMENT FOR EXPENSES INCURRED IN CONNECTION
WITH THE PREPARATION, RESEARCH, AND DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH
THE MEDIA II CONTRACT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRADE AND COMPIERCE
AND FOR INCREASED OPERATING COSTS ($90,500) OF THE LITTLE HAVANA
COMMUNITY CENTER FOR FY '82; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION;
AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of December 10, 1981,
it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title
and passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.9368.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
57.
FIRST & SECOND READING ORDINANCE: DELETE ALL REFEREi�,CES IN
THE CODE TO "LLISURE SERVICES DEPART:1ENT". SUBSTITUTE
WORDS: "RECREATICI1 DEPAF.TME-OT" .
Mayor Ferre: Take up 19; that is the renaming of the Department of Recrea-
tion Department. Plummer, do you want to move it? Plummer moves, Dawkins
seconds. Further discussion. Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 2-186, 2-187 ANT 2-188 OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA AS AMENDED, BY DELETING ALL
REFERENCES TO THE LEISURE SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND SUBSTITUTING
THEREFOR THE WORDS: "RECREATION DEPARTMENT"; FURTHER PROVIDING
THAT ALL REFERENCES TO THE LEISURE SERVICES DEPARTMENT APPEAR-
ING IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, OTHER
THAN THOSE REFERENCES DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SHALL BE
DELETED THEREFROM AND THE LEISURE SERVICES DEPARTMENT SHALL HEREIN-
AFTER BE REFERRED TO AS THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT WHEREVER ANY
REFERENCE TO THE LEISURE SERVICES DEPARTMENT SHALL APPEAR IN
SAID CODE; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE AND DISPENSING WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF READING SAME ON
TWO SEPARATE DAYS BY A VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN FOUR -FIFTHS OF THE
MtMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Perez,
for adoption pursuant to Section 4, Paragraph (f) of the City Charter
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days
by a vote of not less than four -fifths of the members of the Commission
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Perez, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo -
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9369.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and copies were available to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 23 WAS WITHDRAWN.
58.
APPROVE EFFORTS OF FLORIDA LEAGUE TO CITIES - 1C INCREASE IN
SALES TAX - TAN RELIEF rCR THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA.
Mayor rerre: item No. zI. Kesolution for tax re le or e people —
of
Florida. Plummer do you want to support your brother?
Mr. Plummer: Sir, I would be happy to move this item.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion. Cali the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-46
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITE' OF MIAMI APPROVING
THE EFFORTS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TO SECURE PROPERTY TAX
RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA AND AN ALTERNATE GROnING SOURCE OF
REVENUE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGH A 1C STATEWIDE INCREASE IN THE
SALES TAX AND URGING THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE TO ENACT LEGISLATION
EMBODYING THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND LOCAL GOVER-NMENT ASSISTANCE
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PROGRAM OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY
CLERK TO FORWARD COPIES OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE INDIVIDUALS NAMED
HEREIN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
A adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: I vote with it, but I want to say it is not worth the paper it is
written on.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I hope that the Clerk will immediately forward a
copy of this to all of the Dade Delegation.
Mayor Ferre: And they will put it with the rest of the resolutions they get from
all of the cities in Florida, which is in the waste paper basket.
' E 59.
APPROVING TERMINATION OF i1EIGHBORH00D ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRA11 SBID-WYPIWOCD.
Mayor Ferre: Agenda Item 21. Who wants to move it? Dawkins moves, Plummer
seconds. Further discussion on Item 31, Wynwood? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-47
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND CONFIRMING THE TERMINATION OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
CITY OF MIAMI AND SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY CENTER, INC. (SBOC-
WYNWOOD), SAID TERMINATION BEING EFFECTIVE JANUARY 14, 1982;
FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT
FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTINUING A NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOP-
MENT PROGRAM IN THE WYNWOOD CD TARGET AREA WITH AN ORGANIZATION
BASED IN THE WYNWOOD CD TARGET AREA PROPER USING THE REMAINDER
OF UNENCUMBERED FUNDS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO SBOC-WYN-WOOD, FOR
THE PERIOD COMMENCING JANUARY 15, 1982 TO JUNE 30, 19B2, IN AN
AMOUNT NOT EXCEEDING $50,000.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor J
Mayor Mauric
NOES: None
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60. ♦ "►
EXECUTE RETROACTIVE AGREEMEI?T : ECONOMIC PLAi111ING ACTIVITIES
RENDERED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE TRADE & COMMERCE
DEPARTMENT.
Mayor Ferre: Agenda Item 33. Plummer moves, Carollo seconds. Further discussion?
Call the roll on 33.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-48
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A RETROACTIVE
AGREEMENT, SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM OF THE ATTACHED AMENDMENT NO.
3 AMENDING THE EXISTING AGREEMENT BETWEEN METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR ECONOMIC PLANNING ACTIVITIES TO
BE RENDERED BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF PLANNING AND TRADE AND COMMERCE —
DEVELOPMENT; BY EXTENDING THE TIME OF PERFORMANCE TO DECEMBER 31,
1981; BY INCREASING THE AGREEMENT AMOUNT TO $191,630 PLUS A 34.1
PERCENT LOCAL MATCH; IN ORDER TO ACCEPT AIN AWARD OF FUNDS FROM AN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION 302 PLANNING GRai:T THROUGH
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AN ECONO-
MIC DEVELOPMENT PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTING CAPACITY; FURTHER DIRECT-
ING THE CITY CLERK TO IMMEDIATELY FORWARD A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION
TO THE COUNTY CLERK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 45 PREVIOUSLY PASSED AT THIS MEETING WAS
RESCINDED BY THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
61.
ACCEPT BID: AUDIO INTELLIGENCE DEVICE.
Mr. Carollo: Item 42, so that we don't run into all types of legal problems
later on, I have no problems approving this. I met with the Chief and we agreed
to approve..
Mayor Ferre: What is your motion?
Mr. Carollo: The only problem that I have is that the company that is under the
resolution is not named Audio Investigative Devices, Inc. That is a different
company. The name of the company that we are buying this equipment from is
Audio Intelligence Devices, no Inc.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, do you want to defer it?
Mr. Carollo: I will vote on it now, but I just want to make sure that we vote for
the right company. They have geen making this constant mistake for quite a while.
Mayor Ferre: It has been moved and seconded with the correction as..
Mr. Carollo: The correction is Audio Intelligence Devices, not Audio Investigative
Deg -ices, Inc.
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Mayor Ferre: Call the roll on 42.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo , who moved
its adoption: 7—
RESOLUTION NO. 82-49
_ A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR FORMAL SEALED BIDS FOR
FURNISHING ONE PORTABLE INTELLIGENCE RECEIVER AND COMPATIBLE
ACCESSORIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE: AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE
FROM AUDIO INTELLIGENCE DEVICES, THE ONLY KNOWN SUPPLIER: AT A TOTAL
COST OF $10,233.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM THE 1980-81 CAPITAL EQUIP-
MENT BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
AND THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in' the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None s
62.
GRANT USE OF COFZIISSION CHAMBERS FOR A CEREMOi Y - JOSE MARRTI.
Mayor Ferre: On the Jose Marti matter, which I think Joe, you may want to
vote on before you leave, that Item No. "N", discussion on use of Commission
Chambers for ceremony recognizing ,Jose Marti. Alright, moved by Perez, seconded
by Carollo. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-50
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST MADE FOR USE OF THE CITY COMMISSION
CHAMBERS FOR A CEREMONY IN RECOGNITION OF JOSE MARTI.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
63.
GRANT 41AIVEF OF USE FEE FOR LITTLE HAVAVA COIrL"1UNITY CENTER
ELECTIONS FOR OFFICERS OF CUBAN MUNICIPALITIES IN EXILE.
Mayor Ferre: General Marina is here and he wanted waiver on the same thing.
Explain it for them - municipalities in exile. Quickly, General.
Mr. Marina: My name is Evaristo Maeina, I am the Chairman of Little Havana.
Last year the Cuban municipality held the election of all the municipalities
together.
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Mayor Ferre: Loo'-)it sponsors the democratic prc As in the Cuban community.
It is something veLy important to us. It is a contribution that I think we are _
making towards the democratic process in Little Havana. It has been moved and
seconded. Further discussion? Call the roll.
Id
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-51
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION WAVING USE FEE FOR USE OF
THE LITTLE HAVANA COMMUNITY CENTER IN ORDER TO HOLD THE
DIFFERENT ELECTIONS FOR THE OFFICERS OF ALL THE CUBAN
MUNICIPALITIES IN EXILE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner CArollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre. _
NOES: None.
64. APPROVE REQUEST BY "ACTION" FOR $12 , 560 FOR ::ATCHING GP.A;:T FROM
FEDERAL GOVERIJMENT IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE
THEIR 4 VANS.
Mr. Carollo: Last but not least, I would like to bring up the request by
Action Community Center Inc. I move we approve the request.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? Further discussion. Call the roll on
request by Action.
The fcllowing motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-52
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION GRANTING A REQUEST MADE BY
ACTION COMMUNITY CENTER, INC. FOR $12,560 AS MATCHING FUNDS (TO —
MATCH A GRANT OF SAME AMOUNT RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT)
IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY KEEP OPERATING 4 VANS WHICH ARE USED BY THEM ■
IN THEIR PROGRAM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
35.
FOKMALIZING RESOLUTION: ST. PATRICKS DAY FAR4DE.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer; seconded by Carollo. Further discussion
Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-53
A RESOLUTION AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION NO. 81-1040, ADOPTED
DECEMBER 10, 1981, WHICH AUTHORIZED DISBURSEMENT OF $130,000 FROM
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, QUALITY OF LIFE FUND -CITY WIDE
EVENTS AND COMMUNITY FESTIVALS TO CERTAIN LOCAL COMMUNITY ARTS
ORGANIZATIONS BY INCREASING THE LOCAL DISBURSEMENT FOR THE ST.
PATRICK'S DAY PARADE FROM $9,000 TO $15,000.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
66.
ADJUST SALARY OF CITY CLERK, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK AND PROVIDE
FOR 2% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR CITY CLERK AND CITY
ATTORNEY.
Mayor Ferre: Then we have the City Clerk & the City Attorney to receive
a 2% cost -of -living salary increase which is due April, 1982. Moved by Carollo,
seconded by Plummer. Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-54
A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE SALARY OF THE CITY CLERK AND
THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK: FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK
AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE THE 2% COST OF LIVING SALARY
INCREASE WHICH IS DUE APRIL 1982.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
67.
WAIVE COMPETITIVE BIDDING: CONTINUA4CE OF SYSTEMATIC
NAINTENAYCE & EMERGENCY SERVUCES - INTEGRATED PROTECTION
SYSTEM AT CITY POLICE STATION.
Mayor Ferre: Take up 43. Moved by Dawkins; second by Perez. Further dis-
cussion?
Mr. Plummer: It is a ripoff.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-55
A RESOL>TION WAIVING COMPETITIVE BIDDING FOR THE CONTINUATION
OF SYSTEMATIC MAINTENANCE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THE EXISTING
INTEGRATED PROTECTION SYSTEM AT THE CITY OF MIAMI POLICE STATION
AND FACILITIES AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY ;'TANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER TO CONTINUE SUCH SER-
VICE TO WACKENHUT ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT
OF $13,200.00 FOR ONE YEAR AND ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM
THE 1982-82 BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner ;Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-Mavor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
L
1,'AI%'Z COMPETITIVE BIDDING: t:NI;ITEIIANCZ OF POLICE CO:TUTEI?
SY STE:iS .
Mayor Ferre: Take up 44. Dawkins moves. Perez seconds. Further discussion.
Call the roll.
The following, resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins , who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 82-56
A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT OF FORMAL SEALED BIDS
FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE POLICE COMPUTER SYSTEMS; ACCEPTING
THE BID FROM DIGITAI. EQUIPMENT CORPORATION ON A CONTRACT
BASIS FOR 3 YEARS; AT A TOTAL FIRST YEAR COST OF $152,328.00;
ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1982-82 OPERATING BUDGET
OF Trill DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTERS AND COMMUNICATIONS; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER AN7D THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE
ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clem:).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
ad(,;,ted by the following vote:
162
AYES: Commissioner MA J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
•
69. MOTION TO RENAME MkIOR PARK - "CHARLIE HADLEY PARK".
Mayor Ferre: ,Now, as you know, Charlie Hadley is somewhat ill and he had a
kind of a setback -today and you know that Charlie has always been very, very
active during Thanksgiving in giving turkeys out at Manor Park, and the Easter
Egg hunt. But Manor Park has always been kind of Charlie Hadley. Now, I don't
know who Mr. Manor was, if anybody, and I don't think it means a heck of a lot,
and I don't think there will be too many people upset, and I think it will be
awfully nice if we could rename that park for Charlie Hadley Park. I can't
think of a better....
Mr. Dawkins: The only problem that I have is that I live across the street
and I wouldn't want to look up and see his name every day.
Mr. Gary: He is kidding.
Mr. Dawkins: I agree Mr. Mayor. I think it is a fitting tribute to him.
Mayor Ferre: Dawkins moves, Perez seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 82-57
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION RENAMING "MANOR PARK" AS FOLLOWS
"THE CHARLIE H.ADLEY PARK".
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
AT TAT t "VT IMT.T
There being no further business to come before the City Commission,
on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 9:10 P.M.
ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
City Clerk
MATTY HIRAI
Assistant City Clerk
163
MAURICE A. FERRE
Mayor
I'VY OF IVL�lAI�1 '�I
ITEM NO
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2
3
4
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11
7
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12
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14
DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF $200,000 TO LAW FIRM OF FLOYD
PEARSON, STEWART, RICHMAN, GREER AND WEIL, P.A.
AND $5Q,000 TO WILLIAM S. FRATES, ESQ. FOR LEGAL SERVICE
INRE ACQUISITION OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAYS
CO.PROPERTY
NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCY-
CONSTRUCTION BY F.J. SILLER AND CO. OF LYNDALE SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5462-S
AUTHORIZING INCREASE IN CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$7,000 BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI AND P.N.M. CORPORATION
FOR THE COMPLETION OF RIVERSIDE PARK
COMPLETED WORK OF D.M.P. CORPORATION FOR THE SOLID
WASTE FACILITY AT A COST OF $340,494.75
WASTE COLLECTION LICENSES TO GENERAL HAULING SERVICES,
INC., INDUSTRIAL WASTE SERVICE,INC., MADELU WASTE
SERVICE AND RAFAEL AND ROBERTO TRASH SERVICE, ETC.
PAYMENT OF $31,551.36 TO BROWN, WOOD, IVEY, MITCHELL &
PETTY FOR LEGAL SERVICES
AMENDING RESOLUTION #81-197-LEGAL SERVICES LAW FIRM OF
STEEL, HECTOR AND DAVIS INRE JAMES L, KNIGHT
INTERNATIONAL CENTER
CONTRACT BETWEEN STATE OF FLORIDA DEPT. OF VETERAN AND
COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE AMOUNT OF
$20,000.00
It
TWO DAY CONCESSION AGREEMENT FOR ST. PATRICK'S DAY
PARADE COMMITTEE, INC. ,
CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OF GARDEN
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT IN GARDEN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT,H-4374
SELECTION EDMOND T. HENRY III AS REPRESENTATIVE ON THE
MIAMI DADE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD
RESOLUTION IN CONNECTION WITH THE COCONUT GROVE
ARTS FESTIVAL ON FEBRUARY 19 THRU 21, 1982. CLOSING
CERTAIN STREETS.
AGREEMENT WITH THE HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATION OF DADE INC. FOR SOCIAL -SERVICES PROGRAM.
AMENDMENT #2 TO LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF
MIAMI AND THE CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB
MEETING DATE:
January 14, 1982
COMMISSION RETRIEVAL.
ecTTON cenE Ne.
R-82-3
R-82-7
R-82-8
R-82-9
R-82-10
R-82-11
R-82-12
R-82-13
R-82-14
R-82-19
R-82-22
R-82-26
R-82-29
R-82-31
82-3
82-7
82-8
82-9
82-10
82-11
82-12
82-13
82-14
82-19
82-22 '
82-26
82-29
82-31
15 APPOINTING RALPH T. GISBERT AS MEMBER TO THE CIVIL
R-82-35 82-35
SERVICE BOARD OF THE OITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
CONTI_NUED____
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20
21
22
23
24
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28
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30
ACCEPTING BID PROPOSAL OF BARNETT BANK AND TRUST COM
FOR PROPOSED SALE OF PARKING GARAGE REVENUE BONDS IN
THE AMOUNT OF $12,000,000,00
AUTHORIZING INCREASE CONTRACT BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI
AND EVENSON DODGE INC. FOR PROVIDING HOUSING
FINANCIAL ADVISORY SERVICES
ACCEPT BID OF MARION EDWARDS AUTO PAINT SUPPLY INC.
FOR FURNISHING AUTOMOTIVE DRIVE TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE
ACCEPTING BIDS FOR FURNISHING AUTOMOTIVE EQUIPMENT
TO DEPT. OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE TO
FRIENDLY FORD, INC., MAX GROSSO CHRYSLER PLYMOUTH,
INC., REGENCY DODGE, ETC.
ACCEPTING BID OF DIETCRAFT, INC. FOR FURNISHING
MEALS AT $ CITY DAY CARE CENTERS AT A TOTAL ESTIMATE
COST OF $64,073.00
AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY AND ROBERT
M. WEBSTER AS A FIRE COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND RECORDS
CONSULTANT.
ACCEPT BID OF THOMAS W. RUFF AND CO. FOR FURNISHING
OFFICE FURNITURE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE.
ACCEPT BID-J & G ASSOCIATES INC. INRE FINANCE
OFFICE RENOVATIONS FOR CITY HALL
ACCEPT BID-ROENCA CORPORATION FOR KIRKLAND SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT
ACCEPT BID -MET CONSTRUCTION,INC. FOR AFRICAN SQUARE
RECREATION BUILDING.
APPROVING THE EFFORTS OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES
TO SECURE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE OF
FLORIDA.
CONFIRMING THE TERMINATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH SMALL
BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY CENTER INC.-WYNWOOD
RETROACTIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI AND
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR ECONOMIC PLANNING
ACTIVITIES
BID FOR PORTABLE INTELLIGENCE RECEIVER FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF POLICE
DISBURSEMENT OF $130,000 TO CERTAIN LOCAL COMMUNITY
ARTS ORGANIZATIONS
R-82-36
R-82-37
R-82-38
R-82-39
R-82-40
R-82-41
R-82-42
R-82-43
R-82-44
R-82-45
R-82-46
R-82-47
R-82-48
R-82-49
R-82-53
82-36
82-37
82-38
82-39
82-40
82-41
82-42
82-43
82-44
82-45
82-46
82-47
82-48
82-49
82-53
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31 ESTABLISHING THE SALARY OF THE CITY CLERK AND THE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY
CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVING THE 2%
COST OF LIVING SALARY INCREASE' R-82-54 82-54
32 WAIVING BIDDING FOR THE CONTINUATION OF SYSTEMATIC
MAINTENANCE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THE
POLICE STATION AND FACILITIES-14ACKENHUT ELECTRONIC
SYSTEMS CORPORATION. R-82-55 82-55
33 BIDS FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE POLICE COMPUTER SYSTEMS R-82-56 82-56