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BID ACCEPTANCE. F.R. INDUSTRIES, INC. 150 CROWN CONTROL
BARRIERS.
BID ACCEPTANCE. DUPONT PLAZA CENTER. MARINA DOCKSIDE
FUELING SL•RVICES.
BID ACCEPTANCE. MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS,
INC. ONE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM ANALYZER.
BID ACCEPTANCE. AMOCO OIL COMPANY, FLOVAL OIL CO., B.V.
OIL CO., BELCHER OIL CO., GULF OIL CORPORATION., CHEVRON
U.S.A., FLORIDA AVIATION CORPORATION, J. & J. OIL COMPANY
MANSFIELD OIL COMPANY, MARCH SUPPLY CORPORATION, METAL
LUBRICANTS COMPANY, RANCO OIL COMPANY, ROSS OIL CORP.
SENTINEL LUBRICANTS CORPORATION AND UNION CHEMICALS
DIVISION.
AWARD BID. STRESS SIMULATOR FIRE STATION NO. 16.
BID ACCEPTANCE. ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION.
LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROJECT. PHASE III. B-4455.
BID ACCEPTANCE. ALL TYPE PROJECTS, INC. DINNER KEY
MARINA. DOCKMASTER'S OFFICE RENOVATION.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT PURCHASING AGENT
TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR SEVENTY-EIGHT (78)
PORTABLE RADIOS AND ACCESSORIES FOR POLICE AND FIRE
USE FROM MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS., INC.
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES'
AGREEMENT WITH BOSWORTH AERIAL SERVICES, INC., FOR
AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
TRANSFERRING THE RIGHT OF WAY OF S.W. 22ND AVENUE AND
N.W. 12TH AVENUE BETWEEN CORAL WAY S.W. 22ND STREET AND
N.W. 8TH STREET TO THE JURISDICTION OF STATE HIGHWAY
SYSTEM AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING CITY MANAGER AND
CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE PLAT.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH
ERIC R. SISSER, INC. FOR THE SERVICES OF ERIC R. SISSER
TO SERVE AS LEGISLATIVE LIAISON.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
AGREEMENT WITH THE GEORGE BOLOTIN QUARTET FOR LIVE
MUSICAL PERFORMANCES AT BOTH THE CITY OF MIAMI LEGION
PARK AND STEPHEN CLARK BUILDING.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK. WILLIAMS PAVING CO., INC.
LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROJECT. PHASE II.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM THE LAND AND
WATER CONSERVATION FUND PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
JOSE MARTI PARK PHASE II.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
AGREEMENT WITH THE LAW FIRM OF ARNOLD AND PORTER.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK. ALTMAN MYERS CONSTRUCTION, INC.
NEW COMMUNITY BUILDINGS AND SWIMMING POOL RENOVATIONS.
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AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK
TO EXECUTE AN INSTRUMENT FORMALLY CANCELLING THE
OCTOBER 21' 1971 AND SEPTEMBER 28, 1973 COVENANTS TO
RUN WITH THE LAND EXECUTED BY SUN FUN MARINE CORPORATION.
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CLAIM SETTLEMENT. PEARLINE MCFADDEN.
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PAYMENT OF FINAL JUDGMENT. LINDA B. SMITH AND ROBERT
A. SMITH.
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ORDERING RESOLUTION. CITY WIDE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT. S.W. 16 STREET SR-5499-C.
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE, SELECT AND
NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH A QUALIFIED AUDIO
VISUAL PRODUCTION FIRM.
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5
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT PURCHASING AGENT TO
ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR FIFTEEN (15) ELECTRONIC
PRINTING SYSTEMS FROM XEROX CORPORATION UNDER AND EXISTING
CITY OF MIAMI BEACH CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE.
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6
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ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,500. TO PARTLY
DEFRAY COSTS OF THE HALF TIME SHOW NATIONALLY TELEVISED
FURING THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI/NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL
GAME SEPTEMBER 24, 1983.
R-83-1115
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1.24
ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 IN SUPPORT OF
THE OCTOBER, 1983 MEETING OF THE PAN AMERICAN HEALTH
ORGANIZATION.
R-83-1116
6
1.25
ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,560. TO COUNCIL
FOR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS OF GREATER MIAMI.
R-83-1117
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ACCEPT BID. PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES CITY WIDE.
R-83-1118
6-7
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AUTHORIZE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT P.F. ENTERPRISES
CONVENTION REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON AND NEW YORK AREA
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI.
R-83-1119
7
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AUTHORIZE PURCHASE FOR 1,000 INDUSTRIAL RAIN SUITS FOR
DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE.
R-83-1120
8
5
RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER EMERGENCY PURCHASE
OF 12,050 COPIES OF THE FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT HANDBOOKS.
R-83-1121
9-10
6
PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ERIC SPEYER REQUESTING FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE ON BEHALF OF THE MUSEUM OF SCIENCE.
(REFERRED TO THE CITY MANAGER).
DISCUSSION
11
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE. DESIDERIO PERDOMO REPRESENTING
CUBAN MUNICIPALITIES IN EXILE REGARDING A REQUEST FOR
VARIOUS WAIVERS. REFERRED TO THE CITY MANAGER.
DISUCSSION
11
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE. LILLY MESTRE, LITTLE HAVANA ACTIVITY
CENTER, REQUESTING USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM,
REFERRED TO THE CITY MANAGER.
DISCUSSION
12-14
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REQUEST FOR FUNDING BY COCONUT GROVE CHILDREN`S THEATRE
REFERRED TO THE CITY MANAGER TO BE DISCUSSED ON
DECEMBER 15th.
DISCUSSION
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MOTION OF INTENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION NOT TO HEAR
FUNDING REQUESTS FROM INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS UNLESS
FIRST INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
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15-16
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STRONGLY URGING THE PARI-MUTUAL COMMISSION OF THE STATE
OF FLORIDA TO GRANT HIALEAH RACE COURSE THE DATES
REQUESTED BY THEM.
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REQUEST FOR FUNDING IN CONNECTION WITH AFRICAN TRADE
FAIR, DISCUSSED AND TEMPORARILY DEFERRED.
DISCUSSION
17-18
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DISCUSSION ITEM AND MOTION OF INTENT TO EXEMPT EXISTING
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FRANCHISE HOLDERS FOR PROVISION REGARDING STREET REPAIR
(SEE LABEL
ORDINANCE.
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18-20
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BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
DISCUSSION
21
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BRIEF DISCUSSION OF CONTINUING TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND
PROBLEMS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
DISCUSSION
21-24
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APPOINT COMMISSIONER J.L. PLUMMER AS A MEMBER OF THE
WATERBORNE AND TRANSPORTATION BOARD.
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24-25
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LONG DISCUSSION CONCERNING WATSON ISLAND, INSTRUCTING CITY
MANAGER TO DEVELOP AN R.F.P. DECLARING A DATE OF A PUBLIC
HEARING TO BE JANUARY 5TH, AND MAKING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS
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GRANT $15,000. FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS TO
CHRISTIAN' HOSPITAL.
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SUPPORT GOVERNOR GRAHAM'S PLAN FOR THE MIAMI RIVER
MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO STUDY PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
MIAMI RIVER, ETC.
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DISCUSSION ITEM. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION REPORT.
DISCUSSION
40-43
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DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE RELOCATION OR DEMOLITION OF THE
EXISTING PUBLIC LIBRARY BUILDING ON BISCAYNE BOULEVARD
AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE NO ACTION UNTIL THE
PRIVATE SECTOR HAS LIVED UP TO OTHER COMMITMENTS. -MADE IN
CONNECTION WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF BAYFRONT PARK.
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE THE SAME AMOUNT GRANTED
LAST YEAR FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS CHRISTMAS PARTY.
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50
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PLAQUES, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
DISCUSSION
51
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RECEIVE, OPEN AND READ OUT LOUD SEALED BIDS FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF LYNWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
SR-5487-C 6 S.
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RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN THE ALLOCATION
OF $3,513.94 TO COVER OPERATIONAL COST OF ELIZABETH VIRRICK
BOXING GYM THROUGH DECEMBER 8, 1983. ALSO, DIRECT CITY
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MANAGER TO ALLOCATE ON MONTH ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COCONUT
GROVE CARES AND TO ARRANGE MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND
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CARL KERN.
51-58
26
DISCUSSION OF LAVENTHAL & HORWATH REPORT ON "EVALUATION
OF MARKET SUPPORT AND OPERATING POTENTIALS FOR THE DADE
COUNTY CONVENTION CENTER COMPLEMENT" TO BE DISCUSSED IN
JANUARY.
ISCUSSION
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PERSONAL APPEARANCE AND DISCUSSION OF DA-BAR PEDICAB
SERVICE, INC. TO BE DISCUSSED JANUARY 12th.
DISCUSSION
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DISCUSSION AND PERSONAL APPEARANCES OF MEMBERS OF THE
EDISON CENTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO BE
DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL JANUARY 12, 1984.
DISCUSSION
61-65
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RATIFY PRIOR DECISION TO MATCH ON AN EQUAL BASIS FUNDING
D.D.A. AND OFF-STREET PARKING AUTHORITY, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS
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ASSOCIATION, FLAGLER STREET MANAGEMENT STUDY AUTHORIZING
MANAGER TO ALLOCATE $15,000.
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STIPULATING THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE ZONING
BOARD WHICH HAS PERSENTLY HAVE A SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND
ONE ALTERNATE, THE NUMBER OF ALTERNATE MEMBERSHIP BE
INCREASE TO TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS FOR EACH BOARD.
M-83-1137
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GRANT REQUEST BY CHANNEL 23 TO CLOSE STREETS IN DOWNTOWN
MIAMI FEBRUARY 25 AND 26 IN CONNECTION WITH THE "GRAND PRIX
RACE".
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32
WAIVE FORMAL COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS, AS AN EMERGENCY
PROCEDURE, THE DEMOLITIONS SERVICES PERFORMED AT THE
TRINITY METHODIST CHURCH FROM TREE MASTERS, INC.
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75
33
SECOND READING ORDINANCE. INCREASE APPROPRIATION MIAMI
SPRINGS GOLF COURSE FOR PURPOSE OF ALLOCATION $30,000 FOR
THE LEASING OF 65 ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS, ETC.
ORD. 9759
75-76
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DISCUSSION AND CONTINUE TO JANUARY 19, 1984, PROPOSED SECO
READING ORDINANCE REGARDING "MINORITY PROCUREMENT PROGRAM."
DISCUSSION
76-79
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ALLOCATION OF FUNDS REGARDING SEVERAL CITY FESTIVALS AND/
OR EVENTS.
M-83-1140
79-93
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EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. EXEMPT HOLDERS OF CITY FRANCHISES
IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER STREET EXCAVATION HAS BEEN
ADDRESSED.
ORD. 9760
93-94
37
A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER FOR THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF MR.
JOSE MENDEZ-A PROCLAMATION TO A.S.P.I.R.A. ACCEPTED BY
DR. ROSARIO.
ISCUSSION
94-95
38
MOTION SENDING BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY A PROPOSED
ORDINANCE DEALING WITH PEDDLERS, VENDORS, ETC. FOR
REDRAFTING.
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95-97
39
SECOND READING ORDINANCE. INCREASE GREEN FEES, CART FEES,
AMENDING SECTION 30-53, 30-54, 30-55 OF THE CITY CODE FOR
CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSES.
ORD. 9761
98
40
MOTION REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF FEES OF PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATIONS OF THE TOWING ORDINANCE AND PASSAGE OF SECOND
READING ORDINANCE REGARDING THE TOWING OF MOTOR VEHICLES
AS AMENDED.
M-83-1142
99-103
ORD. 9762
41
FIRST READING ORDINANCE. AMEND SECTION 2-308 "DISCLOSURE
OF PARTIES AND INTEREST" BY PROVIDING FOR CLARIFICATION OF
THE REQUIREMENT OF FULL DISCLOSURE OF FORMAL REQUEST
PETITIONS, ETC. MADE TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR ANY CITY
BOARD.
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42 FIRST READING ORDINANCE. AMEND SECTION 19-45 (b) OF THE
CODE "FEES FOR FURNISHING REPORTS THAT ARE PUBLIC RECORDS
BY PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN SAID FEES".
43 FIRST READING ORDINAACE. CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
300-408 N.W. 31ST STREET, 3050 N.W. 3RD AVENUE (MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RG-1/3 TO RG-2/4.
44 RECOMMEND TO MEL ADAMS (OF H.U.D.) THAT A 72-UNIT
COMPLEX AT N.W. 3RD AVENUE IN WYNWOOD AREA BE NAND AFTER
JOSE MENDEZ, RECENTLY DECEASED.
45 FIRST READING ORDINANCE. AMENDING THE FUNDS APPROPIRATED
FOR TRUST AND AGENCY FUND ENTITLED: "RECREATION ACTIVITY
INCREASING APPROPIRATED FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME,
PROFESSIONAL BOXING AND WRESTLING BOARD.
46 AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE EMPLOYMENT OF THE LAW
FIRM OF STEEL HECTOR AND DAVIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL FROM
CLAIMS ARISING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MIAMI
CONVENTION CENTER.
47 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT APPLICATION FOR
DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL (ADA) TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL
PLANNING COUNCIL FOR SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
48 ALLOCATE $197,200 TO THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION
AUTHORITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES, FISCAL 83-84.
49 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER $1,500,000 FROM
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT LAND ACQUISITION FUND.
50 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF
AGREEMENT FOR THE OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD.
51 URGE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF PROPOSED CLINICAL CENTER IN
DARE COUNTY FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF MIAMI HEART INSTITUTE'S
"SYSTOLIC HYPERTENSION IN THE ELDERLY PROGRAM."
52 ORDERING RESOLUTION. CITY WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT.
OVERTOWN PHASE I-SR-5501-C.
53 APPROVE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
OF AN ELDERLY MEALS FACILITY TO BE LOCATED IN CURTIS
PARK-1901 N.W. 24TH AVENUE.
54 APPOINT LEONARD MELLON TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE
MIAMI CABLE ACCESS CORPORATION AND DEFER APPOINTMENT OF
THE OTHERS TO A FUTURE MEETING.
54. RESCINDING RESOLUTION 83-961 REGARDING CITY WIDE SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.
55 FORMALIZING RESOLUTION CONCERNING R.F.P.'S PUBLIC
HEARING, ETC. FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF WATSON ISLAND.
56 AUTHORIZE AND IDRECT CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT
WITH SAN FRANCISCO PUFFS, AND STUFF,INC. TO SELL FOOD
ANU btVtmGtS AT Tr3t lNth 1't.j�.KlS r,VL 0r;l'vGi BOWL PARADE
ROUTE.
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R-83-1147 1 110-111
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R-83-1149 1 112-113
R-83-1150 1 113
R-83-1151 1 114
M-83-1152 1 115-116
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R-84-1153 117-118
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57 PUBLIC HEARING. SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS, FEDERAL REVENUE
SHARING FUNDS CONTINUE DISCUSSION TO DECEMBER 15, 1983.
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DISCUSSION I 135-164
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 8th day of December, 1983, the City Commission of Miami, Florida
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan
American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:10 O'clock A. M. by Mayor
Maurice A. Ferre with the following members of the Commission
found to be present:
ALSO PRESENT:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-";ayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
Howard V. Gary, City Manager
Jose Garcia -Pedrosa, City Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr., who then led
those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
Mayor Ferre: Good morning ladies and gentlemen, this is a Regular City of
Miami Commission Meeting.
1. CONSENT AGENDA.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Agenda Items 44, 49, 62, 65, 70, 73, 75 and 79 were
temporarily pulled from the Consent Agenda.
Before the vote on adopting items included in the Consent Agenda was taken,
Mayor Ferre asked if there was anyone present who was an objector or
proponent that wished to speak on any item in the Consent Agenda.
The following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Dawkins,
seconded by Commissioner Plummer and passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
1.1 BID ACCEPTANCE - F. R. INDUSTRIES, INC. - 150 CROWD CONTROL BARRIERS.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1093
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF F. R. INDUSTRIES, INC.
FOR FURNISHING 150 CROWD CONTROL BARRIERS AT A COST OF
$73.00 EACH, TO THE OFFICE OF STADIUMS AT A TOTAL COST OF
$10,950.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1983-84
OPERATION BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE
A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
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1.2 BID ACCEPTANCE — DUPONT PLAZA CENTER — MARINA DOCKSIDE FUELING SERVICES.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1094
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DUPONT PLAZA CENTER.
FOR FURNISHING MARINA DOCKSIDE FUELING SERVICES OId A
CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT A TOTAL PROPOSED
COST OF $20,000; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE
1983-84 OPERATING BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS
SERVICE, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
1.3 BID ACCEPTANCE — MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS, INC.
ONE (1) COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM ANALYZER.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1095
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MOTOROLA
COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS, INC. FOR FURNISHING
ONE (1) COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM ANALYZER TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT
A TOTAL COST OF $15,500.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR
FROM THE 1983-84 OPERATING BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT.
1.4 BID ACCEPTANCE — AMOCO OIL COMPANY, FLOVAL OIL CO., B.V. OIL CO.,
BELCHER OIL CO., GULF OIL CORP., CHEVRON U.S.A., FLORIDA AVIATION
CORPORATION, J & J OIL COMPANY, MANSFIELD OIL COMPANY, MARCH
SUPPLY CORPORATION, METAL LUBRICANTS COMPANY, RANCO OIL COMPANY,
ROSS OIL CORPORATION, SENTINEL LUBRICANTS CORPORATION AND UNION
CHEMICALS DIVISION.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1096
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF FOUR (4) SUPPLERS: AMOCO
OIL COMPANY, FLOVAL OIL COMPANY, METAL LUBRICANTS COMPANY, AND
ROSS OIL CORPORATION, FOR FURNISHING EIGHT (8) SPECIFIC LUBRICANT
ITEMS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF A THREE (3)
YEAR CONTRACT AT A PROPOSED COST OF $36,120.00; AND FURTHER
ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF FIFTEEN (15) SUPPLIERS AS LISTED AND
IDENTIFIED ON THE ATTACHED TABULATION OF BIDS, AT A PROPOSED
FIRST YEAR COST OF $2,108,166.00, FOR FURNISHING FUEL AND
LUBRICANTS AS NEEDED, ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR THREE (3)
YEARS, RENEWABLE ANNUALLY; TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT A TOTAL PROPOSED FIRST YEAR COST OF
$2,144,286.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1983-84
OPERATING BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE
ORDERS FOR THESE MATERIALS, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDS.
1.5 AWARD BID — STRESS SIMULATOR FIRE STATION NO. 16.
RESOLUTION I40. 83-1097
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF AAIEM CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $265,500, BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL,
FOR MODIFICATIONS TO FORMER FIRE STATION NO. 16 — STRESS
SIMULATOR; WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $265,500 TO COVER THE
CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF
$18,585 TO COVER THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $5,315 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH
ITEMS AS ADVERTISING, TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID
FIRM.
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1.6 RID ACCEPTAICE - ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORP. - LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROJECT
PHASE III B-4455 .
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1098
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION COPR.
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $118,903.44, TOTAL BID OF THE
PROPOSAL, FOR LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROJECT - PHASE III; WITH
MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM A FEDERAL E.D.A. GRANT IN THE
AMOUNT OF $118,903.44 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; ALLOCATING
FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $15,457.56 TO COVER THE COST
OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT
OF $2,378 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING,
TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
1.7 BID ACCEPTANCE - ALL TYPE PROJECTS, INC. - DINNER KEY MARINA -
DOCKMASTER'S OFFICE RENOVATION.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1099
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ALL TYPE PROJECTS, INC. IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $244,870, BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR
DINNER KEY MARINA - DOCKMASTER'S OFFICE RENOVATION; WITH MONIES
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE "MAJOR MAINTENANCE - DINNER KEY
MARINA" ACCOUNT IN THE AMOUNT OF $244,870 TO COVER THE CONTRACT
COST; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE AMOUNT OF $14,692 TO COVER
THE COST OF PROJECT EXPENSE; ALLOCATING FROM SAID FUND THE
AMOUNT OF $4,898 TO COVER THE COST OF SUCH ITEMS AS ADVERTISING,
TESTING LABORATORIES, AND POSTAGE; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
1.8 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE
ORDERS FOR SEVENTY-EIGHT (78) PORTABLE RADIOS AND ACCESSORIES FOR POLICE
AND FIRE USE FROM MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS, INC.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1100
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF SEVENTY-EIGHT (78) PORTABLE
RADIOS AND ACCESSORIES FOR POLICE AND FIRE USE FROM MOTOROLA
COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS, INC. UNDER AN EXISTING STATE OF
FLORIDA CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE AT A TOTAL COST OF $142,932.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE 1983-84 OPERATING BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT
AND OF THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT.
1.9 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
WITH BOSWORTH AERIAL SERVICES INC., FOR AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1101
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO, WHICH
HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED WITH BOSWORTH AERIAL SERVICES INC., FOR AERIAL
PHOTOGRAPHY OF APPROXIMATELY 2880 ACRES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
INCLUDING TRIANGULATION, RECTIFICATION AND/OR CONTOUR ELEVATIONS ON
THE AERIALS PROVIDED; USING PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT
OF $43,278 FROM THE 1978 STORM SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND
TO COVER THE COST OF SAID WORK.
1.10 TRANSFERRING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF SW 22nd AVE. AND NW 12TH AVE. BETWEEN
CORAL WAY SW 22ND STREET AND NW 8TH STREET TO THE JURISDICTION OF
STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING CITY MANAGER AND
CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE PLAT.
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RESOLUTION NO. 83-1102
A RESOLUTION TRANSFERRING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF S.W. 12TH AVENUE
AND N.W. 12TH AVENUE BETWEEN CORAL WAY (S.W. 22ND STREET)AND N.W.
3TH STREET. WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE
STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN CONFORMANCE WITH SECTION 337.29 FLORIDA
STATUTES AND SHOWN ON RIGHT-OF-WAY PLAT TO BE RECORDED IN THE
PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA; AND AUTHORIZING AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE THE PLAT.
1.11 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH ERIC R. SISSER,
INC. FOR THE SERVICES OF ERIC R. SISSER TO SERVE AS LEGISLATIVE
LIAISON.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1103
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO WITH
ERIC R. SISSER, INC. FOR THE SERVICES OF ERIC R. SISSER
TO SERVE AS LEGISLATIVE LIAISON REPRESENTATIVE, AND REPRESENT
THE CITY BEFORE ALL SESSIONS OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HELD
DURING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
PAYMENT OF $42,000, FOR SERVICES PROVIDED WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED
THEREFORE FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS.
1.12 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH
THE GEORGE BOLOTIN QUARTET FOR LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES AT BOTH THE
CITY OF MIAMI LEGION PARK AND STEPHEN CLARK BUILDING.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1104
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ATTACHED
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE GEORGE BOLOTIN QUARTET FOR
LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES AT BOTH THE CITY OF MIAMI LEGION PARK
AND STEPHEN CLARK BUILDING NOT TO EXCEED 104 DATES AT A TOTAL COST
NOT TO EXCEED $10,920, USING FUNDS THEREFOR GENERATED FROM DANCE
ADMISSION FEES; SAID AGREEMENT BEING SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDS.
1.13 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - WILLIAMS PAVING CO., INC. - LATIN QUARTER PAVING
PROJECT - PHASE II.
RESOLUTIO14 NO. 83-1105
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF WILLIAMS PAVING CO.,
INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $858,861.94 FOR LATIN QUARTER PAVING
PROJECT - PHASE II; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $107,590.39
1.14 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM THE LAND AND WATER
CONSERVATION FUND PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF JOSE MARTI PARK PHASE
II.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1106
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM
THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT
OF $352,800 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF JOSE MARTI PARK PHASE II; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE APPROPRIATE AGREEMENT
IMPLEMENTING SAID GRANT.
1.15 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
WITH THE LAW FIRM OR ARNOLD & PORTER.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1107
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTEND THE PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $30,000 WITH THE LAW
FIRM OF ARNOLD & PORTER, IN CONNECTION WITH REPRESENTATION AS IT
RELATES TO THE CABLE TELEVISION LICENSE FEE WAIVER PETITION PENDING
BEFORE THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, AND FOR OTHER LEGAL SERVICES THAT MAY BE REQUIRED IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S CABLE TELEVISION LICENSE ORDINANCE.
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1.16 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - ALTMAN-MYERS CONSTRUCTION, INC. - NEW COMMUNITY
BUILDINGS AND SWIMMING POOL RENOVATIONS.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1108
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF ALTMAN-MYERS
CONSTRUCTION, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $622,900.00 FOR NEW
COMMUNITY BUILDINGS AND SWIMMING POOL RENOVATIONS; AND
AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $62,919.10.
1.17 AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AN
INSTRUMENT FORMALLY CANCELLING THE OCTOBER 21, 1971 AND SEPTEMBER 28,
1973 COVENANTS TO RUN WITH THE LAND EXECUTED BY SUN FUN MARINE CORP.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1109
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AN INSTRUMENT FORMALLY CANCELING
THE OCTOBER 27, 1971 AND SEPTEMBER 28, 1973 COVENANTS TO
RUN WITH THE LAND EXECUTED BY SUN FUN MARINE CORP. RELATING
TO A TEMPORARY SANITARY SEWER FORCE MAIN SERVING THE
APARTMENT BUILDING AT 1012-20 N.W. 45 AVENUE.
1.18 CLAIM. SETTLEMENT - PEARLINE MCFADDEN
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1110
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO
PEARLINE MCFADDEN THE SUM OF THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
($13,000.00) WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, IN FULL
AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ALL BODILY INJURY, PERSONAL
INJURY PROTECTIONS LIENS, WORKER'S COMPENSATION LIENS, CLAIMS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI AND EDDIE SIMMONS
AND UPON EXECUTION OF A RELEASE RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI
AND EDDIE SIMMONS FROM ALL CLAIMS AND DEMANDS.
1.19 PAYMENT OF FINAL JUDGMENT - LINDA B. SMITH AND ROBERT A. SMITH.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1111
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO PAY TO LINDA B. SMITH AND ROBERT A.
SMITH, HER HUSBAND, $60,000 PLUS INTEREST, THE AMOUNT OF THE
FINAL JUDGMENT, AND $424.50 THE AMOUNT OF THE COSTS JUDGMENT,
AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI IN THE LAWSUIT FILED IN THE
CIRCUIT COURT OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA, CASE NO. 82-21639,
SAID PAYMENT TO BE MADE UPON THE EXECUTION AND FILING OF A
SATISFACTION OF FINAL JUDGEMENT IN SAID LAWSUIT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FOREGO FURTHER APPELLATE
PROCEEDINGS IN THIS MATTER.
1.20 ORDERING RESOLUTION - CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT - S.W. 16
STREET SR-5499-C.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1112
A RESOLUTION ORDERING CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT-
S.W. 16 STREET SR-5499-C DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST
WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE
COST THEREOF AS CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT-S.W.
16 STREET SR-5499-C (CENTERLINE SEWER).
1.21 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE, SELECT AND NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT
WITH A QUALIFIED AUDIO VISUAL PRODUCTION FIRM.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1113
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE, SELECT
AND NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH A QUALIFIED AUDIO VISUAL
PRODUCTION FIRM TO*PRODUCE A PROMOTIONAL SLIDE SHOW FOR THE
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT :ROJECT AT A COST
NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.
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1.22 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A
PURCHASE ORDER FOR FIFTEEN (15) ELECTRONIC PRINTING SYSTEMS FROM
XEROX CORPORATION UNDER AND EXISTING CITY OF MIAMI BEACH CONTRACT
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1114
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF FIFTEEN 115)
ELECTRONIC PRINTING SYSTEMS FROM XEROX CORPORATION UNDER AN
EXISTING CITY OF MIAMI BEACH CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF POLICE AT A TOTAL, COST OF $14,730.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE PRIOR YEAR RESERVE FUND; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A
PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
1.23 ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,500 TO PARTLY DEFRAY COSTS OF
THE HALF-TIME SHOW NATIONALLY TELEVISED DURING THE UNIVERSITY_ OF MIADiI/
NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL GAME SEPTEMBER 24, 1983.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1115
A PESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUIJT NOT TO EXCEED $12,500
FROM BUDGET RESERVE, DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,
TO PARTLY DEFRAY COSTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STAGING OF
THE HALF-TIME SHOW NATIONALLY TELEVISED DURING THE
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI/NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL GAME SEPTEMBER 24, 1983.
1.24 ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE OCTOBER,
1983 MEETING OF THE PAN AMERICAN HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1116
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 IN
SUPPORT OF THE OCTOBER, 1983 MEETING OF THE PAN AMERICAN
HEALTH ORGANIZATION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF MIAMI WITH
FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM BUDGET RESERVE, DEPARTMENT
OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET.
1.25 ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,560 TO COUNCIL FOR INTERNATIONAL
VISITORS OF GREATER MIAMI.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1117
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,560 FROM
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO THE
COUNCIL FOR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS OF GREATER MIAMI IN SUPPORT
OF ITS ON -GOING PROGRAM OF PROMOTING THE CITY OF MIAMI THROUGH
ORGANIZED AND SPONSORED VISITOR PROGRAMS AND THE WELCOMING OF
FOREIGN VISITORS TO THE COMMUNITY.
2. ACCEPT BID - PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES CITY WIDE
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Mayor Ferre: You want to take up Item 44? Miller, you were the one that
pulled that. Do you want that deferred or do you want to talk about it?
Mr. Dawkins: No, I want to talk about it. All I need Mr. Gary, is the
bid sheets showing me what the responses were and how many minority responses
it was and who they were. That's all.
Mr. Plummer: Do you want it deferred, Miller?
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, I'm going to move it when he provides me with this
information. No, you can just send it to... I need it in my office. I don't
need it now. I'm going to move it. I just want you to do that for me.
Mr. Gary: 0.
Mr. Plummer: I second 44.
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Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second on Item 44. Is there further
discussion on Item 44? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1118
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF•FILM DISTRIBUTORS OF AMERICA
AT A PROPOSED COT OF $51,500.00 AND PITMAN PHOTO, INC. AT A
PROPOSED COST OF $18,500.00 FOR FURNISHING PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES
AS NEEDED ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR TO VARIOUS CITY
DEPARTMENTS AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $70,000.00; ALLOCATING
FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1983-84 OPERATING BUDGETS OF THE USING
DEPARTMENTS; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE MATERIALS, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY
OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Agenda item #49 was withdrawn by the City Manager
3. AUTHORIZE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT P. F. ENTERPRISES -CONVENTION
REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON AND NEW YORK AREA FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI.
Mayor Ferre: The next one is 62.
Mr. Dawkins: On 62, what are they really going to do for twenty-five thousand
dollars, Mr. Gary?
Mr. Plummer: Miller, let me answer that, because I'm more directly involved
through the T.D.A. and through the Convention Bureau. This is the group up
there that solicit and try and land for this community conventions for the
Convention Center. These people are probably the most knowledgeable people in
the Washington area who do in fact have the convention planners more at their
finger tips than anyone else and I can tell you that over the past year or the
duration of this contract we have far exceeded what we have paid to those people
in the amount of business that they have been able to divert to this community.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Item 62 has now been moved and seconded. Is there further
discussion? Call the roll on 62.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1119
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO, WITH
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P.F. ENTERPRISES, TO ACT AS CONVE14TION FXPRESENTATIVES IN THE
WASHINGTON, D.C. AND NEW YORK AREA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING
CONVENTIONS FOR THE CITY; FURTHER AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF $25,200
IN 11 EQUAL MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS FOR SAID SERVICES OCTOBER 1, 1983
AND TERMINATING AUGUST 30, 1984 USING FUNDS BUDGETED FROM FISCAL
YEAR 1983-84 CONVENTION BUREAU - CONTRACTUAL ACCOUNT, SUBJECT TO THE
AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
4. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE FOR 1,000 INDUSTRIAL RAIN SUITS FOR DEPARTMENT OF
SOLID WASTE.
Mayor Ferre: The next Item is 70.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gary, these raincoats, are they of durable quality or did
we just get the cheapest thing to save money?
Mr. Gary: They are of durable quality, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Alright, now, when they come I would like for you and I to have
one in your office and we look at it and see if it's really and truly top
quality.
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Alright, move 70.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second, further discussion on Item 70?
Call the roll please.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1120
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF 1,000 INDUSTRIAL RAINSUITS
FROM A.M.F.A.K., INC., UNDER AN EXISTING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY
CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOLID WASTE AT A TOTAL COST OF
$5,170.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1983-84 OPERATING
BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
Mayor Ferre: Item 73 is the next one that we pulled.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question. Mr. Gary, are my mathematics right? You
paid five dollars a raincoat?
Mr. Gary: I have never known your math to be wrong. That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: I think Mr. Gary, before you order those raincoats you better
send us a sample. I can't imagine much durability for five bucks. You and I
pay forty bucks for a rainsuit for our motorcycle. I think before you
purchase ... I would like to see one of those raincoats before you put the full
amount in.
Mr. Dawkins: I withdraw my motion.
Mr. Plummer: No, we can leave the motion, but I think we better see one of
those.
Mr. Gary: Well, I guess what we are saying is we will get a sample, give it
to you before we make a total bulk purchase.
Mr. Dawkins: Before you make a total....
Mr. Gary: Bulk purchase.
Mr. Dawkins: Or before you purchase any?
Mr. Gary: Yes, same thing.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, what are we doing then on Item 73?
Mr. Plummer: We are going to approve it and we are going to have one of them
sent to us before he makes...
Mr. Dawkins: No, that's 70.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, 70. I'm sorry.
Mr. Gary: 73 are the handbooks, the police handbooks.
Mayor Ferre: Well, now 70 we have already voted on. You want to rescind that?
Mr. Plummer: Ok. 73.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, Mr. Gary, said he is going to show it to us before
he purchase it.
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5. RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 12,050
COPIES OF THE FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT HANDBOOKS.
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are on Item #73 now, which is the handbooks. Who
pulled that?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I did, Mr. Mayor. The only reason I pulled this is
because it requires a four fifths vote.
Mayor Ferre: We have it now. Any problems with that? Is there a motion
on 73?
Mr. Plummer: I only ask a question. Why are we buying Florida Law Enforcement
Handbooks from metropolitan Dade County Police?
Mr. Dawkins: It should have said from, I guess or for.
Mr. Plummer: No, you buy them from the Florida Enforcement.
Mr. Gary: No, this handbook is put together by Dade County, which -is a
comprehensive handbook in conjunction with the Florida State Department of
Law Enforcement Dade County and it really saves us money by having them do
all this.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, if you change the word "for" to "from" I agree.
Mr. Gary: Ok. I see what you are saying. It's a typo.
Mr. Plummer: Typos cost money around here.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: It's a technicality.
Mr. Plummer: Technicalities cost even more money because that....
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready to vote on a technicality? Is there a motion on
Item 70? What number are we voting on now?
Mr. Ongie: 73.
Mayor Ferre: 73. Plummer, is that you moving it?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I will move it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Dawkins seconds, further discussion? Call the roll
on 73.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1121
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER
BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN 4/5THS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
CITY COMMISSION IN APPROVING THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 1,250 COPIES
OF FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT HANDBOOKS FROM THE METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE SOLE SOURCE OF THE HANDBOOKS, FOR THE
CITY OF MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT: WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR SEALED
BIDS; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,812.50 FROM
THE 1982-83 OPERATING BUDGET OF SAID DEPARTMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J, Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Agenda Item 4179 was deferred for further information.
6. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: ERIC SPEYER REQUESTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ON
BEHALF OF THE MUSEUM OF SCIENCE. Referred to the City Manager.
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Mayor Ferre: Well, I will tell you what. We have some pocket items. So let's
do the pocket items. We will start with you, Commissioner Perez. You got
any pocket items?
Mr. Perez: Yes. I would like to have you recognize Mr. Mayor, Mr. Eric
Speyer from the Science Museum.
Mr. Eric Speyer: I'm Eric Speyer. I'm the Director of the Museum'of Science.
I reside in 414 Ueroco, Coral Gables. The Museum of Science is 3280 South
Miami Avenue. It isn't Miami Museum of Science and we are turning to you for
help this time. We have a major exhibit, a block buster exhibit. The muppets
coming from March to April 27th. It's costing the museum a hundred fifty
thousand dollars to bring it here. We are funding it ourselves. We are asking
the City of Miami for ten thousand in publicity money we felt was justified,
because we are publicizing Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Have you discussed this with the Manager?
Mr. Speyer: I have discussed it with Demetrio Perez and Mr. Plummer. The
Manager doesn't know about it. I tried to get on the agenda and it was too
late.
Mayor Ferre: Our rule around here now is that since we are getting so tight
on money, that before it comes to the Commission that the administration
look at the proposal and recommend whether or not they approve. And so it's
something that... I'm sure it's a worthy cause. We have so many worthy causes
and we don't have enought money to give to all the worthy causes. So, we need
to have the Manager look at it.
Mr. Speyer: Very good. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir. Mr. Manager, will you assign somebody to Miami's
Museum of Science?
7. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: DESIDERIO PERDOMO REPRESENTING CUBAN MUNICIPALITIES
IN EXILE REGARDING A REQUEST FOR VARIOUS WAIVERS. REFERRED TO THE CITY
MANAGER.
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Mr. Perez: I think that we have a petition from the... a presentation from the
Cuban Municipalities in Exile. I think that we have to follow the same
procedures, but anyhow I would like the members of the Cuban Municipalities
to have the opportunity to...
Mr. Desiderio Perdomo: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Desiderio
Perdomo. I'm the President of the Cuban Municipalities in Exile. Last year
we celebrated right here in the City of Miami in April the first Cuban national
fair of the Cuban Municipalities in Exile. It was a great success. We had
over seventy-five thousand people that came to our fair from different states
and different cities of the State of Florida. This year we plan to do the
same fair again in the month of April from April 5th to 9th and we appear
here in front of the Mayor and the Commissioner to request the permits and
the facilities of the parking lot of the Orange Bowl. We also request a
waiver for the use of the facilities. Last year the City of Miami was one
of the greatest sponsors of our fair and they donated to us the amount of
ten thousand dollars for all the expenses we have. This year we are plannning
to have a big, big fair. We are sending brochures, information to all our
Countries and South America, Puerto Rico, also the entire United States. We
are requesting the use of the facilities and the waivers and a donation again
from the City of Miami.
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Mayor Ferre: I would say that we have to be consistent and therefore, we have
to ask the Manager to give us a recommendation. That doesn't mean that we
won't overrule the Manager....
Mr. Perdomo: No, we sent a letter and we went to the Office of the City Manager,
in the office of Mr. Cesar Odio.
Mayor Ferre: Mir. Odio, is the administration ready to recommend one way or
the other on this?
Mr. Gary: No.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Gary: No, we are not.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, are you ready to recommend one way or the other?
Mr. Gary: No, I'm not ready.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, will you bring this up at the next meeting date? We
should let them know by April. I mean, they have got... April is around the
corner so we need to let them know fairly soon.
Mr. Gary: Well, we will do it all in writing. We will bring it up next time.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I'm saying January. Their gathering is in April, so we
have got time on this one. I mean, sometimes they come here and it's three
days later. Ok So, I'm saying certainly, but out of courtesy to them that
we ought to come to a decision on this by the January meeting. Now, is that
alright?
Mr. Plummer: Is it alright with you?
Mr. Perdomo: Well, we got time in January.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, so be it.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Thank you very much.
Mr. Perdomo: Thank you.
8. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: LILLY MESTRE, LITTLE HAVANA ACTIVITY CENTER,
REQUESTING USE OF BAYFRONT PARK AUDITORIUM, REFERRED TO THE CITY MANAGER.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, any other pocket Items?
Mr. Perez: I have a letter from the Little Havana Activity Center.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Ms. Lilly Mestre: Good morning, my name is Lilly Mestre. I live at 881 Ocean
Drive, Key Biscayne, Florida. I work at Little Havana Activity Center and on
December 14th we will be having our annual Christmas party. And in the past
years the City of Miami has always supported us and I'm here again to
respectfully request that the City of Miami waive the fees for the use of the
Bayfront Park Auditorium. It's this Wednesday, December 14th. And the cost
is three thousand one hundred fifty-two dollars.
Mayor Ferre: How much?
Ms. Mestre: Three thousand one hundred fifty-two dollars.
Mayor Ferre: That's a Christmas party, isn't it?
Ms. Mestre: Yes, that is our Christmas party that we have every year.
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Mayor Ferre: Have we done this every year? How long have we been doing this?
Ms. Mestre: That I recall, three or four years in December.
Mayor Ferre: Right here at the...
Ms. Mestre: Some years we have been to the Coconut Grove Exhibition Center
and in the past we have been to the Bayfront Park Auditorium.
Mayor Ferre: Well, which are you requesting?
Ms. Mestre: This year we are going to the Bayfront Park again.
Mayor Ferre: Bayfront Park.
Ms. Mestre: And it's cheaper.
Mr. Perez: What is what you are requesting? The rent of the units and the
police officer, that's what you are requesting? That's about... That's the
budget that you have here?
Ms. Mestre: Yes, the entire use of the auditorium.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, traditionally you have... when you have granted... made
a grant to people for the purpose of waiving fees is it only included the use
of the facility. I think it would be a bad precedent for you now to start
paying for the police associated with that Biscayne Auditorium.
Mayor Ferre: Well, how did we do it last year?
Ms. Mestre: Last year the entire cost and the year before was undertaken by
the City of Miami, the full cost. Including officers and stage hands and...
We have gone back to the Bayfront Park Auditorium because it is less expensive.
Mayor Ferre: It's the only opportunity that all these senior citizens have...
I think this an annual party, is it?
Ms. Mestre: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: You do this once a year, right?
Ms. Mestre: Yes, sir and we did try to avoid appearing before the Commission
for this request, but...
Mayor Ferre: You do supply the food and all the... and the transportation?
Ms. Mestre: We supply the meals and an individual gift, door prizes and we
have a raffle going on to undertake the other cost for the rest of the party.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, what's your recommendation? The problem with this
one is that we don't have time to study it before December.
Mr. Plummer: Talk to me Scrooge.
Mr. Dawkins: He just made his recommendation. He said that we cannot start
a practice of funding whole programs. He just said that.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, but he was...
Mr. Dawkins: That's what the Manager said.
Mayor Ferre: I understand and I heard him correctly, but he was corrected
wasn't he.
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, he was.
Mr. Dawkins: No, he wasn't.
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Mayor Ferre: Yes. He was corrected to the sense...
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, hold it. I will tell you what, I defer this until they show
me where we paid for everything last year. I defer it. When you show me where
we paid for everything last year, then I will be willing to consider it.
Mayor Ferre: Fine. Ok.
Ms. Mestre: Alright, I can come up with that.
Mayor Ferre: And you said the year before also.
Ms. Mestre: 1981 and 1982. 1982 I know for sure.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I will tell you what Commissioner to simplify things and
it will put it in the hands of the Manager....
Mr. Dawkins: No, Mr. Mayor, I want to defer it. See, I don't want people
to put words in my mouth. I want to defer it until... If I get a second, ok.
No, no, wait now, if I get a second that's fine.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, I agree with you. We don't need to get into a
big argument about this. I agree. If I may, I want to make a statement.:
That's all.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, but I think the parliamentary procedure is if there is
a motion on the floor ..........
Mayor Ferre: The Chairman...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but the Chair is out ruling me... Ok, look, I withdraw my
motion.
Mayor Ferre: I am not out ruling you. I am agreeing. No, sir I agree with
you. I don't know what your argument is. I am agreeing with you and the
matter is deferred. I want to make a statement. Now, do you have objections
to my making a statement?
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may, there is a second officially so that you
can make your statement, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's fine. I want to make a simple statement and it's
just very simple. The simple way of doing this is if you want, whenever you
are ready to do it, now, at noon, at 5 o'clock this afternoon is to put it
in the Manager's hands and instruct him to do whatever it is that we did
last year. Now, I don't have any problems in deferring this as long as you
want. This item is deferred.
Mr. Carollo: When is the party going to be held Lilly?
Ms. Mestre: I'm sorry?
Mr. Carollo: The party is going to beld December 14th, which is next Wednesday
at the Bayfront Park Auditorium from 11:00 A.M. to 3:00 P.M.
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Mayor, might I suggest first of all the motion is not
necessary. This is not an agenda item. No action is no action. Commissioner
Dawkins in the respect that he has asked is that they give us the documentation.
Lilly, you have until 6:00 o'clock I'm sure tonight to furnish the Commissioner
that what he has asked and then we will bring the item back up. But it's
deferred until that time.
Mayor Ferre: That's exactly what the Chair ruled five minutes ago and I have
no problems with that. Now, do you have anything else?
Ms. Mestre: Thank you.
9. REQUEST FOR FUNDING BY COCONUT GROVE CHILDREN'S THEATRE REFERRED TO THE
CITY MANAGER TO BE DISCUSSED ON DECEMBER 15.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, Cookie has asked to appear. I thought she may be
had talked to someone else and she is looking directly at me.
Mayor Ferre: Corkie.
Mr. Plummer: Corkie, right. She would like to make a presentation. I don't
know if she wants to after hearing the previous testimony, but...
Ms. Cornelia Corkie Dozier: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, My name is
Cornelia Corkie Dozier. I am the Artistic Director of the Coconut Grove
Children Theatre. On December 12th and 13th at Joseph Caleb Center where
we are going to be doing a production of Scrooge, that will be done for two
thousand as Mr. Plummer just previously stated...
Mr. Plummer: Corkie, was Scrooge White or Black?
Ms. Dozier: We have three. We have a Latin, a White and a Black.
Mr. Plummer: Did he wear bow tie or no bow tie?
Ms. Dozier: Depending on how much he could afford at the time. We are also
doing a production on the 16th and 17th at James L. Knight Center. At this
point and time the Coconut Grove Children's Theatre which will be serving
during the course of one week of productions approximately eight thousand
children. Five thousand children will be coming from the disadvantage under
privilege communities of the City of Miami. We are requesting a fee waiver
for the usage of James L. Knight Center. We have received a fee waiver for
the Joseph Caleb Center. We have some expenses that have been incurred
already at this point and time by various private resources as well as the
National Endowment for the Arts. We are requesting a fee waiver as well as
union expenses which we are anticipating which will total about twenty-five
hundred dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Corkie, have you discussed this with the administration?
Ms. Dozier: I have not.
Mayor Ferre: Ok, Mr. Manager,_ there is a time factor in all of this because
you need... Mr. Manager, could you assign somebody to deal with this issue
and can... is the 15th alright, Corkie?
Ms. Dozier: The 15th would be fine.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Mayor, would you bring this back to report on the 15th?
Alright, anything else?
10. MOTION OF INTENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION NOT TO HEAR FUNDING REQUESTS
FROM INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS UNLESS FIRST INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
_ Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, for the sake of saving the Commission some time in
the future may be the way it should be done is in the form of another
resolution to go along with the previous one that we have. What I'm seeing is
and I'm not trying to embarass anybody here at all, but if we have a resolution
that was previously made that everyone has to go through the Manager before
we finally consider if we are going to approve funds or not. I think it's
really being a major waste of our time to hear people so that we can send them
to the Manager and they come back to us and we hear them again, So, what I
would like to do is if I may is make a motion that we will not hear at all anyone
that comes before this Commission for funds unless they have gone to the
Manager, the administration before hand.
Mr. Plummer: Second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Futher discussion, call the roll.
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Mr. Dawkins: In voting "yes" I would hope that this is not like other motions
we make here and then you make them and then all of the sudden we no longer
adhere to it. I vote "yes".
Mr. Plummer: I'm sure that Commissioner Dawkins will be around to remind us.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1122
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION STIPULATING THAT NO FURTHER
REQUESTS FOR FUNDS, GRANTS OR ASSISTANCE SHALL BE CONSIDERED BY
THE COMMISSION UNLESS IT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN SUBMITTED TO AND
DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
11. STRONGLY URGING THE PARI-MUTUAL COMMISSION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO
GRANT HIALEAH RACE COURSE THE DATES REQUESTED BY THEM.
Mayor Ferre: The Florida Pari-Mutual Committee is meeting to award mid -winter
racing dates. I have had a phone call here from Mr. Steve Fisher who re re ents
Mr. Brunetti and the Hialeah Mace Track and a request also from the Cit} of
Hialeah that the City of Miami join with the City of Hialeah in going on record
as asking and supporting Hialeah understanding that the dates that they have
requested be granted to Hialeah. I don't think... I have nothing against
Calder Race Track or Gulfstream, but I think certainly Hialeah is a race track
that has been a major asset to this community. It is in serious financial
trouble and anything we can do to help it, I think helps the tourist industry
of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: So, move.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further. discussion? This is a resolution of the City of Miami
recommending to the Florida Pari-Mutual Committee that the dates requested
by Hialeah Race Track be granted to them and that this is of major importance
to this community. Further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1123
A RESOLUTION STRONGLY URGING THAT THE HIALEAH PARK RACE COURSE BE
ASSIGNED THE MIDDLE RACING DATES FOR ITS 1984 RACING MEET BY
THE DIVISION OF PARI-MUTUAL WAGERING OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
BUSINESS REGULATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
12. REQUEST FOR FUNDING IN CONNECTION WITH AFRICAN TRADE FAIR, DISCUSSED AND
TEMPORARILY DEFERRED.
Mayor Ferre: This Mr. Winn. The Chair recognizes you. This is a request
that the City of Miami participate in an African Trade initiative of the East
African items that will be... This is Kenyan cottage trade and Ed Corbell of the
Hyatt has agreed to display them on the first floor on the week beginning
December 14th at no cost. The only cost involved would be the coordination
five hundred dollars rental of display racks of six sixty-five and round trip
air fare and lodging for the Kenyan Ambassador. Mr. Manager, you better listen
to this.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Mayor Ferre: Yes, we do. That's why I want him to hear what we are talking
about. And lodging of the Kenyan Ambassador for five hundred dollars. So,
the request is for sixteen sixty-five. Mr. Winn.
Mr. Bill Winn: My name is Bill Winn. I'm Chairman of Afro -Carib Import/Export
Corporation. Roughly three years ago as a result of being appointed to a
Committee on African Trade by the Mayor, my company started negotiating with
countries in Africa primarily through AIT Department of State to identify which
of these countries were perfecting the process of exporting the cottage craft
items from Africa. We have subsequently, actually within the last three days
closed a deal with the Country of Kenya to represent their development
corporation here in...
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Winn, you just heard the Commission pass a resolution which
is binding on everything and everybody. So, let me ask you this question.
Since this matter comes before December 14th I'm sure the Manager can discuss
this with you or assign somebody and recommend something to us this afternoon.
I have only got one question. Is this a for profit corporation?
Mr. Winn: My company is for profit, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, how can the City of Miami therefore contribute
sixteen hundred dollars?
Mr. Winn: Well, the purpose of the exhibit is for the City of Miami to display
one, the fact that we are relating on an international basis with Africa. Two,
to display...
Mayor Ferre: This is the City of Miami.?
Mr. Winn: City of Miami, yes. And secondly, to display to the citizens of
Miami the items that are from Africa which will not be for sale.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, due to the fact that this matter has to be resolved
before December 14th an invitation to the Kenyan Ambassador and so on, would
you assign somebody to look into this and perhaps report to us by the end of
the day as to what your recommendations are.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I got to be honest in terms of... I have no problem trying
to do it, but we are under some very very severe requirements and constraints
placed on this office by the State Attorney in terms of how we hand out this
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money and the proper review and when we have to make these quick decisions
it causes me problems personally and the Commission problems personally in
terms of liability. We will look at it. I can't guarantee anything though.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not asking you to guarantee a thing. I'm just saying Mr.
Winn this thing starting on December 14th, today is December the Bth. Obviously,
that we can't discuss this on December 15th. He is here making like everybody
else a legitimate request. I'm not saying what we are going to do, but since
we have said that this has to go through you, just would you please assign it
to somebody to discuss it with him and recommend something this afternoon.
Mr. Gary: We will make an effort.
Mayor Ferre: I thank you, sir.
Mr. Winn: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may based on the previous motion that I made
can we through the Manager make it clear from now on after today to all the
different groups that in the future will be making requests from the City
Commission that the policy is they go through the administration before
they can even speak to the Commission and if there is a time constraint, it's
not our fault we are going to stick to the policy.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
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13. DISCUSSION ITEM AND MOTION OF INTENT TO EXEMPT EXISTING FRANCHISE HOLDERS
FOR PROVISION REGARDING STREET REPAIR ORDINANCE.
Mayor Ferre: We now have the question of Florida Power and Light as I'm sure
all of you have been talked to by a representative of Florida Power and Light.
There is a matter of a duality in the law which needs clarification. Would
the City Attorney address the issue.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, Mr. Mayor, the question has arisen with respect to
the FP&L Franchise as to whether the ordinance that we passed at the last
meeting requiring now the posting of a bond for excavation and so forth
could legally gibe with the FP&L Franchise. I have reviewed the matter and
have concluded that because in that franchise there is no reservation of the
right of amendment and this of course, would be an amendment, that ordinance
is not valid with respect to the FP&L Franchise and I think it would be
appropriate for the Commission therefore, at this time to on an emergency basis
because that ordinance goes into effect next week, exempt any franchise holder
who's award of a franchise does not contain the right of amendment on the
part of the City.
Mayor Ferre: Is that your legal recommendation?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I will not exempt them. I
will acknowledge that in their franchise there is a clause that says that...
Mayor Ferre: Well, that's the same thing. That's a better way of doing it
I think.
Mr. Plummer: It's an exemption from the ordinance that is presently going into
effect, but to exempt or absolve them from responsibility, absolutely not.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, I think you are a hundred percent correct, there is
just the question of wording it properly. Why don't you go ahead and make
that--- if we are ready to do this now. I don't know if anybody wants to
discuss this at this point.
Mr. Gary: How do you plan to make them comply?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, very simply the way the franchise reads that if they
are not in compliance, that in fact they will have a hearing before this
Commission for the revocation of their franchise.
Mr. Gary: Fine, I just wanted to get it on the record. That's more stringent
than what we are...
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Mr. Plummer: No, well, that is not the wording of the... I have read...
Mr. Gary: Well, just for information purposes, that's the only thing we are
talking about. That is more stringent than what's required under the current...
Mr. Plummer: Much more, much more. Now, I want to part...
Mr. Gary: And we will be back to you when they violate it.
Mr. Plummer: I want it as a part of the record their attorney's opinion. Mlay
I have a copy of that? Would it be supplied to the Clerk? And in their... their,
FP&L's attorney, that matter is covered and they acknowledge the fact that
anv complaints will be an attack on the franchise rather than on a performance
bond. Would you please make this as a part of the record, please.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion on this item?
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me, I think there has got to be now more further
discussion because I see Tom here or Jim here for the phone company, it also
affects the gas companies who are also under franchises. So, I think, you know,
when you talk about one you got to talk about the others.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Jim Barker: Well, I'm Jim Barker, District Manager with Southern Bell and
we have had many discussions about this since it has come up and we do have as
Commissioner Plummer has said Section 3, in our franchise, Mr. Mayor, whereby
we have to perform adequately and we have to restore the streets, sidewalks and
right-of-ways back to their proper order and if it's not done in accordance with
this franchise, then if my memory serves me correct we to... you give us seven
days to do it and if we do not perform it in seven days then you complete the
job and bill us. That's according to the franchise. All I wanted to have
included in the thing was not to be exempted Commissioner Plummer, but the
opportunity to respond to these complaints from our subs. Our sub -contractor
is Church and Towers and if I have the opportunity through these complaints
that you received, I think that I have responded in the past or our company
has to restore the streets correctly. I don't certainly want to lose the
franchise that we just went through some rigorous hours of negotiating a
couple of years ago. I want to adhere to the franchise and I assure you
that as the manager for public affairs for Dade County and I represent the
company to the City of Miami and the Dade League and Metro Commissioners, I
assure you that we want to do whatever is right and comply with this ordinance
and if it's not right, then may be we ought to get a new contractor. But I
assure you that if I'm given the opportunity on these complaints to take care
of it. I will do it.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think that the motion in order is exempting from
this present ordinance any franchise holder with the City of Miami in which
there is already addressed the problem of the street repairs or excavations
and I will be willing to offer such a motion that they be exempted as long
as they fully understand ---on the record--- they fully understand that any
matters of a dispute is possible jeopardy of their franchise. I want that on
the record.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: There is a second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, it's been moved and seconded. Call the roll.
Mr. Barker: Could I just make a comment?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Barker: Could I have an opportunity Commissioner Plummer and Mr. Gary, to
respond to these because of the complaints that have come up and I have talked
with the Commissioners before. If I have an opportunity--- I don't want to
lose the franchise.
Mr. Dawkins: But Jim, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, he has got seven days.
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Mr. Dawkins: Wait now, wait now. Wait a minute, ok, but in my neighborhood
I can bring you violations seven days a week and if you give you seven days to
correct it, that's forty-nine days I'm giving you to correct the problem.
Mr. Barker: Alright, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, now.
Mr. Barker: Yes, sir. I understand.
Mr. Dawkins: And to me in my neighborhood forty-nine days is extremely too
long. So, when you come before me I be telling you let's take the franchise
because you are not... you know, this forty-nine days is stringing out. So,
see. So, we got to... you got to take that into consideration.
Mr. Barker: I will and I will respond Commissioner Dawkins to whatever you
say, I will.
Mayor Ferre: This is a motion now and it will come back as a resolution I
would assume.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Mr. Mayor, this has to be an emergency ordinance if we
are going to prevent the other ordinance from coming into effect on the 16th.
Mayor Ferre: Well, when can you have the emergency ordinance written?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Sir?
Mayor Ferre: When will you have the emergency ordinance?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: We can bring it back today. We need to bring it back
this afternoon. Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, it's a modification of the ordinance already passed and
going into effect is what it is.
Mayor Ferre: Does that cause you any problems?
Mr. Barker: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, it will.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we have a motion at this time, is there any further
discussion? Call the roll.
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(THE AFORESAID MOTION 14AS ASSIGNED MOTION NO. 83-1124.
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9760 - SEE LABEL #36 - SAME MEETING)
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14. BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DURING THE HOLIDAY
SEASON.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the only thing that I want to get on the record...
Mr. Gary, I want to... no, not for you Tom. This has nothing to do with you
Jim. I want to make sure that the ordinance is allowing the sale of alcoholic
beverages during the Christmas holidays has been taken care of.
Mr. Gary: We took care of that.
Mr. Plummer: That's taken care of.
15. BRIEF DISCUSSION OF CONTINUING TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND PROBLEMS IN THE
DOWNTOWN AREA.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, I want to tell you again... I'm glad to see Roger
sitting here in the audience. I'm not picking on Roger. I'm not picking on
you. I went Downtown yesterday, I want to tell you that that traffic Downtown
is getting worse. The more I complain the worse it's getting. Now, is the
secret don't complain and it will get better? Mr. Gary, you cannot move
Downtown. These merchants...
Mr. Carollo: It will work out eventually. It will work itself out eventually.
Mr. Plummer: These merchants are dying, dying because people will... the big
time of the year is Christmas and these people are not getting customers because
nobody wants to go Downtown, take an hour to go from the Flagler or 1st Street
Bridge to go and have the opportunity to pay two dollars an hour for parking
when they can take fifteen minutes and drive to a shopping center and pay
nothing for parking. There is no big secret why our people Downtown are
hurting.
Mr. Carollo: J. L., the only quick solution that I could think of that would
alleviate a little bit of it, not all of it, I don't think even half of it,
is by placing extra police officers for traffic control.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, I want to tell you, yesterday there were trucks parked in
the middle of the street unloading stuff that they, you know, they should have
_ been either ticketed or towed. Mr. Gary, let me tell you one thing as I
drove around yesterday, one thing in particular. These people that are putting
the people mover down there, ok, they have taken one street that was right there
by the parking garage on 1st Street and 1st Avenue, they have reduced it down
to one lane and I want to tell you I don't have to be an engineer to see that
their barricades could be moved back and open a second lane of traffic. Now,
I don't know whether we need to go down there and say move that barricade five
feet over, but they are just putting their barricades any where they want
without consideration to the traffic and the flow of traffic Downtown.
Mr. Gary: I will give you a full report...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, I don't need a full report. I need it addressed. By
the time you give me a full report Christmas is going to be over and we are
going to lose fifty merchants Downtown.
Mr. Gary: You know, I would like to borrow the phrase from the Mayor, you know.
everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die.
Mr. Plummer: No, everybody wants to go Downtown, they don't want to go to
Dadeland.
Mr. Gary: Well, that's fine, but the'thing is we have got some construction
activity Downtown that this community has bought off on, namely, the Downtown
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People Mover. Also, the Dupont Plaza area which is also causing traffic
congestion that this City Commission voted to have that area developed. Now,
you talk about closing off two lanes. We have the same problem even in our
own Downtown parking garage. We have a security problem. Now, we can say to _
people, fine, you can drive up right close to the area being constructed, but
we have experienced things falling off those buildings and the City of Miami
would be liable if it does not provide an adequate buffer space to prevent
that from happening, but what I will do Commissioner Plummer, is that I will -
send the Public Works Department out there and minimize the amount of traffic
lanes that are taken up to the point where it still would be secure.
Mr. Plummer: That's one point, Mr. Gary. Ok. Let me tell you something.
This idea of having your traffic Downtown on computerization is nice. As I
see every of the merchants want policemen Downtown, but I think that we need
to readjust that two policemen standing on a corner of Flagler and East 2nd
Avenue who's vital main concern is that of whether they are jay walkers or
not jay walkers is not which we are addressing the problem. I see. nothing
wrong of the old days where a policeman went out in the street and directed
traffic to keep the flow of traffic moving. I see nothing wrong with that.
Mr. Carollo: That's what I was talking about.
Mr. Plummer: I'm saying to you, Mr. Gary, you have got to go down there and
enforce it, you have got to go down there with people and I want to tell you
if you don't do it, Mr. Gary, we are going to rightfully be accused that
we are not addressing the problem of the Downtown merchants. Something has
got to be done.
Dr. Jane Theede: Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Good morning.
Dr. Theede: Good morning.
Mr. Plummer: You don't even look Irish.
Dr. Theede: I'm not. Well, I'll take it back, on another side I am. There
is something that has disturbed me more than the traffic. Miami has nice
weather generally twenty-four hours a day. When I was a little girl people
didn't use lights at night to work except in the steel mills, but today they
do and I don't understand why we are having construction in the day time when
we can have construction at night. Now, I'm with you. I don't go Downtown
anymore and I live Downtown. I can walk to town far easier than I can drive
to town and I will get in my car and I will go out to International Mall or
Dadeland or wherever, because I am not going to spend that kind of money to
park my car, get in that mess and whatever it is and I think what is going
on Downtown is a total disrespect for the citizens of Miami and the people
that live in Dade County and work in Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Doctor, let me say to you that I think everyone including yourself
are for progress. There is inconveniences associated with progress, we
understand that, but I think that what we really need to do is to assure that
there is orderly progress which is not the case. I can show you in one particular
instance where a job has been finished now for over six months and yet a lane
of traffic is still being tied by a fence that has absolutely no reason to be
there. That fence was there previous when the construction was going on. The
construction is finished, six months finished and yet the fence is still there
and that street is cut down from three lanes to one. And these are the kind
of things that I say have to be addressed.
Dr. Theede: Mr. Plummer, our magnificent City planners have closed off a
lot of the streets unnecessarily on a permanent basis. Now, I think we need
to address that issue perhaps in a report about reopening some of those streets,
but the main thing is this is not Atlanta, this is not Buffalo, this is not
Chicago where they have cold weather and they have to work in the day time
because otherwise their hands freeze off. We have got lovely weather even in
our coldest weather at night and there is no reason for Downtown's construction
to go on during business hours and I'think the City should do something about
it.
Mr. Carollo: Doctor, you made a good point, but there is--- and I will give
you two factors--- One, is the safety factor. There is so much work that needs
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to be done on those skyscrapers that if you would do all of that work strictly
at night it would be a tremendous safety factor.
Dr. Theede: You have Saturdays and Sundays to work in the day time.
Mr. Carollo: Secondly, of all the extra expense that is going to be incurred
might make it just impossible for a lot of that construction to go on. In
other words,...
Dr. Theede: There are plenty of unemployed people today that you are not
having to pay time and a half and double time for Saturday and Sunday work. I'm
sorry Mr. Carollo, I came from a city that the unions have killed. And if you
persist in letting the unions kill this city you are going to have exactly
nothing. Now, there is plenty of unemployed people in the city that will be
more than happy to work nights and more than happy to work Saturdays and Sundays
and I can't understand why somebody who can't read and write is so much better
than medical doctors that work on Saturday and Sunday and firemen that work on
Saturday and Sunday. This city is a twenty-four hour seven day city and there
is no one in this city that is so good that they can get more pay for wc,rk3:-.a
certain days of week and not working certain days of week. I'm sorry, I don't
buy that in today's economy.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, Doctor.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, I think that that's a very urgent situation and I would
like to request that the Manager try to assign a member of the staff in order
to make special report for the next Commission meeting. Last week it took
me about forty-five minutes to move from Northeast 2nd Avenue to Northeast
1st Avenue, just forty-five minues moved one block. I think that we need
more police traffic participation in the Downtown area and I think we have to
take an urgent action. I have received a lot of complaints from the merchants
and I think that is very, very important at this time that we have the
opportunity to receive a report from the Manager's Office for the next Zoning
Commission meeting next week. We have to take some solution and we have to
urgent action.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager, I think when you look into this... in the
past there has been some recommendations that Miami is probably at a point where
we need to ---like New York and other American cities ---look at the idea of
creating traffic cops. Now, we have... the Office Street Parking Authority
has police officers that don't carry guns and are deputized to go around giving
tickets to illegally parked automobiles.
Mr. Plummer: Have you seen the guns they carry?
Mayor Ferre: They carry guns?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, it's a pad and a pencil.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And they can shoot those tickets out faster than I can a gun.
Mayor Ferre: Fine. Well, I think the point is that if you look around
at most major American cities you will see that they have people--- in New York
instead of wearing a blue uniform they have a brown uniform and their sole
job is to direct traffic at critical points.
Mr. Perez: But that's the tourist police that I mentioned about several months
ago. They didn't have enough support because they say that we don't have
enough money for that,•but that's the idea of the tourist police that we have
in the main capitol of the world at this time.
Mayor Ferre: As I recall the police officers in New York are paid substantially
less. The traffic police are paid substantially less than a police officer who
has to go through the academy and go through the whole process of being a police
officer.
Mr. Carollo: Well, the problem is there is no way that you can get around in
certifying a police officer just for a traffic purpose...
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Mayor Ferre: He wouldn't be a police officer.
Mr. Plummer: No, you don't make them police officers.
Mr. Carollo: That's the only way you get around it. Then the other problem
would be the liabilities that we may have. How can we Justify and really
certify this individual is going to be qualified. See that's... your ideas
I think are fine, Mr. Mayor, but the only concern that I have is can we get
around it.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, it's not my idea. It's the idea of New York City,
Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, San Francisco, Denver, Dallas, New Orleans and
most major American cities where they have traffic... they have uniformed people
who's sole responsibility is to involve themselves in transportation traffic
problems.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, but do they get paid less than the... substantially less.
Mayor Ferre: Substantially.
Mr. Carollo: If we could find a way of doing it I'm all for it.
Mr. Plummer; Well, one of the initial concepts of the PSAs' was traffic. That
was one of the initial concepts and now unfortunately the need has been that
they are used in other capacities and none of them are left for traffic and
that's the problem.
Mayor Ferre: These people have only one function and that is to direct automobiles
crossing the street. That's it. And they have a radio. That they do have.
And if something goes wrong and they need a police officer they immediately
call the station and immediately get a police officer. Now,...
Mr. Carollo: I think the idea is great. I think we should look into it and
try to proceed with it.
Mayor Ferre: It doesn't eliminate a police officer. I mean, if you walk
around New York you will see these brown uniformed people and you will see
a blue uniformed police officer in his car a block away. It doesn't
eliminate police officers. What is does is it simplifies where you have critical
points of traffic of the expediting and the moving of people. You got to
remember that besides a people mover that is being built in Downtown Miami
we have several very major buildings being constructed, in addition to which
we have the Christmas Holidays upon us. So, of course, we have problems and
they are terrible. Well, is there anything else we need to discuss on this
subject Mr. Manager.
Mr. Gary: No, we will come back with something.
Mr. Perez: The Manager is going to come back with a recommendation as to how
we deal with the issue.
Mr. Gary: Thank you, before we make any decisions in view of the fact, we
have limited resources.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there further...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I ain't buying that. Mr. Gary, I want you to come back
at the next meeting and I want you to tell me what you have done. I think it
needs to be... We cannot wait. The merchants Downtown cannot wait and I think
we must address the problem, address it now. We cannot wait another week to
implement and then Christmas is over. I think, you know, if you can come
back and tell us hopefully, before the next meeting which is only a week. We
have got to give relief to those merchants Downtown and I just hope that you
will tell us what you are doing. Not give me a report of what you want to do.
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16. APPOINT COMMISSIONER J. L. PLUMMER AS A MEMBER THE WATERBORNE AND
TRANSPORTATION BOARD.
Mayor Ferre: The last item that I have here is Waterborne Transportation Board.
There is a recommendation here that Commissioner J. L. Plummer be appointed to
represent the City of Miami on that Board.
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Mr. Plummer: And Don Hickman.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion? Moved by Perez, seconded by Dawkins, further
discussion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Perez who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1125
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING COMMISSIONER J. L.
PLUMMER, Jig. AS THE CITY COMMISSION'S LIAISON WITH THE
"WATERBORNE TRANSPORTATION BOARD".
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
17. LONG DISCUSSION CONCERNING WATSON ISLAND, INSTRUCTING CITY MANAGER TO
DEVELOP AN R.F.P. DECLARING A DATE OF A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE JANUARY
5, AND MAKING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, go ahead, Mr. Manager. This is a 9:45 item.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to have Mr. Gilchrist and my staff to give and
I would like for a little patience because even though the Mayor and Commissioner
Carollo and Commissioner Dawkins may be fully aware with Watson Island,
Commissioner Dawkins may not be as aware and Commissioner Perez as everybody
else. And I would like for him to just give a scenario where we started from,
where we are today and where we would like to go. Go ahead John.
Mr. John Gilchrist: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, to bring us up to date as
quickly as possible here. The City Commission initiated the development of a
theme park on Watson Island in 1976. We have gone through extensive process
whereby we and through a competitive process selected a development team to
be developers and operators of the project. We have gone through all the
legal issues and environmental issues necessary to get that project approved
but the agreement between the City and Diplomat World Enterprise is the
developer/operator for the project was voided in a court process under a suit
brought by citizens on Palm Island adjacent to...
Mayor Ferre: I think it's very important, Mr. Gilchrist that you also explain
that there were seventeen counts in the lawsuit and that we won sixteen and
lost one.
Mr. Gilchrist: Those counts that... first of all we had a lower court ruling
favorable to us. It went to the appeals court. The count that we lost on
was a technicality of the City Charter regarding the agreement process of selection
and contract for a total development process. We have since in November 1982
amended the Charter on procurement procedures to correct those conditions. The
issues that were brought in that suit that we did prevail on were all the
environmental issues. The issues of the feasibility of the project and issues
of the positive impact on the community. It was a technicality that we lost
on... The Supreme Court of the State of Florida refused to hear the issue and
that nullified the agreement at that point and time. At the time the agreement
was nullified we were at a point in a process with the development of regional
impact issue where the City issued a development in 1980 for the project. It
was appealed by the South Florida Regional Planning Council and that appeal
goes to the Land and Water Adjudicatory Commission which is of Governor and Cabinet
of State of Florida. They after public hearings in an administrative hearing
process ruled that the City had the right to issue the development order, but
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set five conditions for the City to meet. Since that time we have met four
of those conditions. There is one remaining condition and that condition was
set by the Cabinet based on the fact that at that moment in time when we were
before the Cabinet the agreement between the City and Diplomat World Enterprise
was before the Supreme Court. Anticipating the possibility of that being
nullified they required that the City come back before the Cabinet with a
new economic study based on a future development process which it involved the
City and private enterprise in a new agreement. Specifically that issue is the
fiscal impact on the City. We have over a period of time before the Cabinet
requested extension of time two times and the last issue of that item regarding
the fiscal impact was extended last April for a one year period. So, the coming
deadline date to be back bofore the Cabinet with a new development City
agreement and a fiscal impact study on that agreement is April of this coming
year. Therefore, we are recommending here that the City now go out for a
request for proposal for private development of the island and it is detailed
in the document that is before you.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, the important thing is I need to understand and I
think the Commission needs to understand...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, he is talking what document?
Mayor Ferre: That's what I'm about
what we need to know what you are in
the City Commission as to whether or
that correct?
Mr. Gary: That's correct, Mr. Mayor.
o ask Commissioner. Mr. Manager, I think
effect requesting here is direction from
not to proceed in preparing an RFP. Is
Mayor Ferre: Now, when will the RFP be discussed?
Mr. Gary: The RFP will be discussed at a public hearing on December 19th.
We will need a special meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, may I be heard on this please?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor and fellow Commissioners, my views on Watson Island
development are well-known. Realistically I am not naive in my thinking.
I know that eventually Watson Island is going to be developed. Why? Because
land is a very unique and rare commodity. No one has found the secret of
how the supreme being created earth. So, no one has duplicated this feat.
Yes, we have advanced tremendously technologically, but we have yet to
develop more land in outer space or any place else. Therefore, the land we
now own can only increase in value as the years come and go. This says to me
someday Watson Island is going to be developed. Gentlemen of this Commission
herein lies my problem developed as what and for the benefits of whom. If my
memory serves me right the Florida State Cabinet said that the City of Miami
had to meet certain conditions before the Cabinet would approve development of
Watson Island. If the City has met all these conditions I am not aware of it.
I have not heard verbally nor have I seen anything in writing where all the
conditions have been met. Two of the conditions that I'm concerned most with
are, number one, the required feasibility study that would show the fiscal
soundness of the proposed development. Number two, a study relating to the
traffic congestion, the present flow of traffic, how much traffic the development
program would add to the roadways, how this traffic would be handled, who
would pay for the new required roads and who would maintain these roads.
Another concern of mine is that with the new referendum passed by the voters
in the City of Miami, once a project is proposed a selection committee is
chosen to evaluate the proposal and make recommendations. The City Commission
must accept the recommendations. The Commission may request additional
information as to how the selection was made, but that is it, which is fine.
Why have a selection committee if you are not going to accept their
recommendations. But am I ready to give guidance to the selection committee
as to what the City of Miami wants on Watson Island. in other words go out
for a proposal, give to them the selection committee and accept what is
returned. I personally have a problem with this. I wish to have this matter
continued until I can do two things, review the RFP that staff will design
so I will know what it is that the City is requesting be done with Watson
Island. Number two, meet with the Governor and the Florida State Cabinet and
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discuss with them the conditions that they set, determine if we have met these
conditions. Once I have a firm date to meet with the Cabinet I will notify
to other members on this Commission and Mr. Gary as to the date and time. So
that anyone else desiring to ao may do so. Because of what I have just said I
make a motion that this matter be continued.
Mayor Ferre: I will recognize that motion after everybody has an opportunity
to make a statement and that will be the first motion I will recognize. Mr.
Manager, do you want to say anything?
Mr. Gary: Yes, I would like to respond to some of the points that has been
raised by Commissioner Dawkins. Four of the conditions have been met...
Mayor Ferre: Out of the five.
Mr. Gary: ...out of five. The fifth condition, which is the economic
feasibility of the project has not been met for the mere fact that we have
no project to determine or no proposals to determine whether it's economically
feasible or not. The original concern as to the economic feasibility of the
project was raised with the agreement... the original agreement we had with
Diplomat World which is no longer in existence. In order to make an economic
feasbility study you have to have something before you to determine what has
been proposed by a developer. As an example, in the original proposal it
requires the City to make millions of dollars worth of public improvements.
We envision based upon the new unified development process, that a proposal
will now not require the City to make those million dollars worth of improvements,
but instead they will do them themselves, as demonstrated by what happened in
Bayside Project. We had eight million dollars worth of public improvements,
one of the companies Rouse has said you don't have to spend eight million
dollars City of Miami, you only have to spend four million. We will spend the
other four million. We think that this land and the opportunities that would
be afforded to the developers along Bayside will make them want to make it
beneficial and financially feasible for the City to go on with this project.
So, economically we cannot make a study. So, at this point cannot be made
until we get a bid.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gary, what you said that the... all the conditions have been
met, explain to me how the road and traffic congestion has been addressed and
what the solution was that was arrived at.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir. In the process with the project, first of all, in
going before the Regional Planning Council we submitted studies prepared by
Wilbur Smith Associates a national recognized traffic engineer along with
studies prepared by Dade County and by our in house staff. Those studies all
colaborated on the issue to show that the impact on a six lane federal highway
known as McArthur Causeway here locally was not negatively impacted beyond
reasonable level of traffic.
Mayor Ferre: Did the State accept those?
Mr. Gilchrist: One of the Cabinet's conditions was that the State Department
of Transportation do an independent study on their own and they did that study
and reported back to the Cabinet and we had that condition approved.
Mayor Ferre: Was it positive?
Mr. Gilchrist: It was a positive report. They did say and require that the
project improve McArthur Causeway across Watson Island for the length of the
project only, not in any other location on the highway system, I-95 and other
and to increae the width of the lanes across Watson Island by three feet on
the six lane highway.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, who is going to pay for that?
Mr. Gilchrist: The project would pay for that out of project funds.
Mr. Dawkins: That's the developer?
Mr. Gary: If I may.
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Mr. Dawkins: No, no, hold it. That's the developer or the project?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, the financing of the project whether that comes from the
developer or wherever would pay.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, from the City or anywhere. Whoever finances the project will
pay for it.
Mr. Gary: Commissioner, if I may. I think people are asking us to answer
questions for which it's impossible for people to answer. We don't know how
much money the City will have to pay or what the developer will pay because we
have no bids before us. What we are asking for is the opportunity first of
all to do an RFP. This RFP will establish the parameters upon which a developer
will bid. The parameters are in the DRI as approved by the State. When the
bids come in and we are not asking for bids, we just want the authority to do
the RFP. When the bids come in the same unified development process and selection
as we did with Bayside would be in effect on this particular project, then you
can make those analysis. As a result of those you may find that you may need
to do some more traffic studies which that developer would pay for, you may find
that you may need to do some other financial kinds of arrangements with that
developer, but you make the final decision at that particular point and time.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let me see if I can shed some light on this. If I may
just...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will wait my turn, but I want to answer where I think
Mr. Gary is wrong.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Alright, let me see if I can shed some light on this please.
We have expended... We the City of Miami have expended approximately one million
dollars to come up to this particular state and point. During these seven years
that have past we have been up before the Cabinet at least a half a dozen times.
We went up before the Supreme Court of the State of Florida, got bonds validated
which is a very difficult thing to do. We have satisfied all of the environmental
demands of the State, all of the traffic studies, everything except one issue.
Now, the problem that we have is this, that we got an extension of one year to
April of 1984 to present to the Cabinet an economic feasibility. We cannot
present to the Cabinet an economic feasibility unless we know who and what the
project is going to be. We don't know who and what the project is going to be
unless we have people who are willing to step forward to offer a development.
As I understand what the Manager is coming up with, which I think is a very
wise direction to take, is that we are not going to base it on the proposal,
Commissioner Perez, of Diplomat World, but rather we are going to base the DRI
based on the proposal as approved in general terms by the State of Florida and
the development of regional impact approval. Based on that, that gives them
many different entities in the United States the ability to bid this process.
Now, I think we must look upon this as a continuation of the Bayside Project.
Think of Watson Island as a continuation of the Bayside Project. Now, to the
editorial in the Miami News which seems to keep continually misunderstanding
the point, I'm not precluding and I don't think the City of Miami is precluding
the advent of a cultural center on Watson Island. We don't have the money.
Watson Island happens to have eighty-six acres. What we are talking about is
using for the park itself, what? Thirty some odd acres?
Mr. Gary: Forty acres.
Mayor Ferre: Forty acres. Now, there are remaining forty-six acres. We don't
know what's going to happen in those forty-six acres. In my opinion even during
the RFP process we should reduce that forty to an even smaller scale so that
besides saving Chalk (airlines) we will have the acreage available cultural center
should that be the wish of this community if and when the money is available to
do that. I don't think this is the time for us to go competing with Miami
Beach with their twenty-two million dollar investment in T.O.P.A. I have got
no problems after they have done it if in five years or ten years from now
this community decides that that's the place where a opera house should be
built of building it that way. Now, Mr. Manager, there is something else
which I think is essential that be put on the record and that is the marine
aspects of this. I would hope that in your RFP that you approach this in
such a way that we can have a bid so that if there are bidders they may be
bidding the marina aspect of it or the park aspect of it jointly or sPnaratp1v
and this Commission in the future may decide to go ahead with a marina and
not with the park aspects if the bids are not sufficient. Now, I wish to put
into the record that I know of and I am not... they have asked me not to reveal
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their names, but I have had three major and what I mean major, I mean the
largest in the United States corporations call my office and I have referred
them to John Gilchrist to say that they are interested in the bid process if
there is an RFP on Watson Island. They look upon Watson Island as a continuation
of Downtown Miami and they look upon the opportunity as a continuation of
Bayside. Now, if we think of it in those general terms I think we should not
preclude... I don't know what's going to come back, because it all depends
who takes an interest and what kind of a bid proposal they are going to come
back with. I think so far Mr. Manager, I want to commend you and the committee
you appointed for what I think is an exemplary demonstration that we are
mature enough to deal with an issue as complicated as Bayside in an intelligent
fashion and I think it is a vindication of this Commission's faith in the new
procedures that we work so hard and diligently at and which George Knox and
Jose Garcia Pedrosa subsequently as attorneys and you as City Manager ana
your predecessor worked at in working out an extremely complicated and
sophisticated way of bidding projects other than a high and low bid process.
So, far it's working. If this one works I think it would be safe 'to assume
Watson Island would work in a similar fashion. To the Miami News Editorial
Board my answer is we are not precluding anything else from happening in Watson
Island. There is sufficient space on Watson Island for it to become a major
cultural center, for it.., there are many things that we can do with Watson
Island and this is just one of the... a step in the right direction. I think
this is a matter that is long over due. I'm not going to repeat because it
would be the twentieth time in seven years the importance of a theme park. Now,
this is the only community in America that is a major tourist center that has
absolutely no tourist attraction of this nature. It's the only city in America.
Now, frankly, I cannot think of a better place than this island which is right
in between Miami Beach and Miami in the Bay and I think it's just something that
we need to include. Now, it may be at the end of the process that there will
be no bidders. I don't know. Or perhaps it will be a complete surprise, but
I think we need to pursue this to it's natural conclusion after seven years.
And Mr. Manager, I commend you and I think that we ought to follow the advice
of your recommendation here.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I would like to just reiterate. This is...
The RFP that will be developed is not the Diplomat World's bid. It is the
DRI modifications that have been accepted by the State in terms of the
parameters upon which we should develop that land. I would like to also say
Mr. Mayor, that is a valuable piece of land that is now barren. We need to
develop it. We need to develop it reasonably and intelligently and we think
now in view of what's happening at Bayside Downtown, we have some big name
developers that now want to come in and give us a quality product. Secondly,
Mr. Mayor, we need additional marinas, that is a part of the package and I
will suggest that we at least afford ourselves the opportunity of seeing what
people want to put on that area that would benefit the City of Miami and this
is no commitment to doing anything other than seeing what is available to us
in terms of benefits.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., you wanted to say something.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me tell you where I disagree with the former
comments of my friend, Mr. Howard Gary. The fact that the cost of not knowing
is how much is something going to cost or not cost is absolutely wrong Mr.
Gary, because I think that is the value of the RFP. In that RFP which will
be approved or disapproved by this Commission will spell out what the
responsibilities are of the successful bidder. Now, just using my colleague
Miller's concern about traffic and who will pay for the extra three feet or
not the extra three feet, I think can easily be covered in the RFP and made
very clear that it is the developer's responsibility that he knows when he
bids that, that in fact...
Mayor Ferre: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me finish.
Mayor Ferre: Agreed.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Now, first of all, I want to tell you I have got problems
with the public hearing on the 19th. You know, we had a written agreement here
that December was the amen date was the 15th. I'm saying...
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Mayor Ferre: Ok. Well, what day is good for you?
Mr. Plummer: I don't know Maurice, I will have to ao back. I was trying to...
Mayor Ferre: Well, just trying because of the April deadline J. L., to move
the process. I would imagine it's going to take you. You have to have a
special hearing.
Mr. Gilchrist: There has to be a ten day public notice too, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: But ten day public notice doesn't mean that you can't have
eleven days does it?
Mr. Gilchrist: No.
Mr. Gary: At least.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. A minimum of ten days. So, what Plummer is saying is ten
days is the 19th. He is not here the 19th or he doesn't want to...
Mr. Plummer: I'm contemplating not being. I would like to try to arrange...
Mr. Gary: We will bring it back in for a couple hours meeting
Mayor Ferre: Well, just tell me when we can do this.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, what I'm also trying to tell you is at this particular
time as you know as yourself I have taken the heat of supporting for the past
five years...
Mayor Ferre: Seven years.
Mr. Plummer: Seven years this island called "Atlantis". You know, I happen
to believe, but Mr. Mayor, I have to tell you and I want to tell the administration
very clearly that if you think you are going to put together an RFP without this
Commission's input and I'm not talking about at at public hearing. I'm not
talking about that. I have got some definite ideas as I'm sure each and every
member of this Commission has and if on the 18th you come and knock on my door
and say I want to sit down and discuss with you, I'm going to tell you the
door is locked.
Mayor Ferre: J. L., there is no question about that. See, all I'm trying to
do is get the process moving. April is around the corner.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mayor Ferre: Look, let me tell you what the time constraints are and John
help me with this because I'm not to sure on these dates. If we were to
follow the schedule as you are proposing and we were to say Manager come back
on the 15th, we would have to have a public hearing on the 19th. That's the
first lay we get... we could amend what the RFP procedures says a hundred
times. We could continue the hearing into January. Assuming that by the
middle of January, Mr. Plummer, you would have all your things worked out and
the rest of the Commissioners had their input, that document would have to be
advertised wouldn't it? How long do you have to advertise it?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, we could...
Mayor Ferre: Just give me a quick answer please.
Mr. Gilchrist: Ten days.
Mayor Ferre: Ten days. Alright, now after you have advertised it for ten
days then you have to... you have to put it out right. How many days do you
have to give the bidder to look at it? You can't ask a company like Rouse
or...
Mr. Gilchrist: I believe a minimum of;ninety days.
Mayor Ferre: Now, if you go out ninety days from January you -are past April
see and what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to be able to get before the
Cabinet of the April meeting and say look, we are on our way, but we are not
quite there yet, but we have got to be moving by then, otherwise, I think we
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are going to be highly embarrassed. So, what I'm saying is that I don't think
we can afford to go ninety days. I think you have to have those documents in
before that April Cabinet meeting. You follow me. That's why even though we
can amend along the way Commissioner Plummer, the problem as I sense the
problem is time. So, all I think the administration is doing is give them
the approval to begin the process of putting together an RFP, call a public
hearing at which time you can amend the RFP or continue the public hearing or
whatever you want, but at least the show is underway, if you will. Now, that's -
really all that's before us at this time.. It may end up that we won't be able
to come to an agreement, but at least let's get going. Now, have I interpreted
this properly, Mr. Manager? Is that what you are asking for?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All I'm saying to the administration...
Mr. Gary: We will, if I may.
Mr. Plummer: If you think you are going to knock on my door on the 18th or
whatever the date is I'm going to tell you the door is locked.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Gary: I will promise this City Commission that once we do the RFP which
will be well in advance of the 19th, we will come to the City Commission
personally, individually and get your input as to what should be in it. As
a matter of fact we will do it even before we start the process.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Plummer, if the 19th is nr,t acceptable you want to
wait until the first of the year? You want to wait until Friday the 2nd?
I mean, we should all be back by then.
Mr. Plummer: Friday the 2nd. No, the 2nd of January is a Monday and that's
a holiday.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, then do you want to wait until the 3rd?
Mr. Plummer: You are talking about the 6th?
Mayor Ferre: The 4th, the 5th. I think we need to, you know, every...
Mr. Gary: We need to do it the first week of January, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Well, schedule it for the 5th.
Mayor Ferre: The 5th is a Thursday?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: It's alright with me. Anybody have any problems with that?
Mr. Plummer: And that's a meeting solely for two hours on...
Mayor Ferre: Public hearing on this.
Mr. Carollo: What date?
Mayor Ferre: The 5th.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Manager. Mr. Mayor, let me ask you, before starting any
procedure do you have... does the administration have a copy of the guideline
that they plan to build for the new procedure?
Mr. Plummer: For the what?
Mr. Perez: All the guidelines that they are going to establish for the new
procedure?
Mayor Ferre: No, that's what he is going to be providing.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no that's what they are doing now.
Mr. Perez: But you don't have anything about the guidelines yet?
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Mr. Gary: No, we will have that... That's what we wanted to do for the 19th
that you are now saying you want to do on the 5th and I'm saying...
Mr. Perez: Yes, but in your own point of the administration part, you don't
have any special recommendation about what would be the new procedure, what
are the main course of the project. But we haven't received that information.
What we have is the hearing that we had about a year ago, but I would like...
you know, I have a special concern first about the neighbors concern. I think
that we have to act having consideration what is the neighbors concern on this
project. Also, about the traffic congestion. I think that is an important
issue. Also, about the minority participation in the business contract and
employment opportunity.
Mayor Ferre: Well, these are all the things that will be discussed at the
public hearing. See, the procedure is this, if we tell the Manager to proceed
he will put together his idea of what an RFP should be, then the Commission
will have an opportunity to react to it at the meeting that we are calling and
then we bring in amendments as to minority participation or any other of these
issues that we wish to bring.
Mr. Perez: And about the Diplomat Enterprise, what kind of role? They don't
have any role in the new procedure?
Mayor Ferre: They may bid it.
Mr. Gilchrist: They may bid, but they have no agreement with the City intact
at this point.
Mr. Carollo: They will be just like anybody else. They will be bidding.
Are you all through? The four years that I have been on this Commission I
kept an open mind as much as I possibly could on Watson Island. What concerns
me is that a project as important as this project is we are talking about a
project that millions upon million upon millions of dollars are going to be
spent in it and once you build there you can't go around five years later and
do away with whatever has been done. It's going to be there for a long, long
time. My concern is that we are going through this like if all that we were
talking about was okavine twentv hot doe Dush cars in Downtown Miami. I consider
this project much more important than that and I would like the opportunity
for myself and other members of the Commission that have expressed concerns
to sit down and really go through some of the major concerns that we have and
if that takes a couple more weeks even if it's another month before we go back
to this step, fine, so be it. But when you are talking about a project as
important as this project is going to be for the future of the City of Miami,
I just don't think that you could be rushing like what we are doing now. And
that's my basic concern. I'm not trying to knock the project down. That's
not my intention Maurice. I'm keeping open mind about it, but I want to be
able to analyze a lot of the major steps. I want to be able to understand it.
It's been your baby, that's why you have a better understanding than most of
US.
Mayor Ferre: No, it's not my baby. You know, I really... I want to tell you
something...
Mr. Carollo: No, I'm not saying that to knock you down, on the contrary.
Mayor Ferre: I'm interested in this because it's important to the City of
Miami. I could care less if this... you know, personally it doesn't mean a
thing to me. It's not going to be... it's just one more step... This is no
more important to me than was the Knight Center which was also my baby even
though everybody once it was born wanted to claim paternity and it's no more
important than the People Mover which is also my baby and I came up with the
original idea eight years ago and it's no more so than Bayfront Park or Bayside
which is also my baby. So, it's just one of many things that I believe are
important, but I'm certainly a part of a five person group here and whatever
the majority wants is fine with me. I have said this time and time again. I
believe in this, if the rest of you don't, then if you want to delay or kill it
or whatever...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I take exception to the fact that you say the rest of
us don't want it when everybody here...
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Mayor Ferre: Or want it.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, everybody here has said that they are in favor of it and I
mean and you shouldn't point or you shouldn't paint us in a box, Mr. Mayor,
as not being in favor of it.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, I apologize.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, thank you.
Mayor Ferre: I thought that you were against it and I apologize. I didn't
know that you were for it.
Mr. Dawkins: I started out by saying that I am against it, but I'm not a fool.
I know it's going to be developed. I just said that, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Sorry, sir. I stand corrected, you say that you are now in
favor of it or that you might be in favor of it, that's fine. So, I stand
corrected. Those of you that are in favor of it and those of you that are
opposed to it. Whatever the will of this majority is is acceptable to me
obviously. Now, I just think that we have been playing with this thing for
seven years and it's once again time to fish or cut bait. Now, either we get
on with this project or we don't get on. Now, all I'm asking and what the
Manager is asking is that we set... that we push the button that starts the
time clock. Now, that doesn't mean that we won't change it a hundred time
between now and the day that we decide to proceed. Now, my answer to Commissioner
Carollo is my answer to you, sir and to Commissioner Plummer is that if we
begin now you have plenty of time to do all these things and it can be deferred =
if you wish beyond January and February, but I think that we ought to instruct
the Manager to begin the process unless you begin the process you are in effect
voting against this project, because we must by April have something before
that Cabinet and unless you begin the process now if you begin the process in
January it won't be but February before you have the public hearing and if you
have the public hearing in February you can't put it out for bids until mid
February and that means there is no way you can have a proposal back by April
and all I'm saying is for God's sake let's get on with this thing.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Gary: If I may, I would like to convey to the Commission that to allow me
to proceed to develop an RFP does not say that we will develop Watson Island.
What it says is that we want the opportunity to find out what can be done in
the area, you have a chance to vote on the RFP and the final decision is yours
in terms of whether things proceed or not. So, this is not the final decision
in terms of the Commission for approval for development in that area.
Mr. Carollo: Howard, I think we all understand that. The bottom line is that
I'm not ready to jump just because there might be some that think now is the
time to jump. I need to understand this whole process we are following. When
was the last time that anyone from the administration even bother to send me
some minimum information on Watson Island and try to sit down with me. The
last time that I can remember that was approximately a few months after I was
first elected in 1979 when Howard Grassie... Joe Grassie, was City Manager and
he appointed a guy by the name of Richard Fosmoen to sit down with me and
explain the process to me while we were doing it at that time. This I think
everyone will admit is a very complicated, not only issue, but a very complicated
process we are following and I like Maurice want to see the best for the City
of Miami on Watson Island and we both together with present members of the
Commission and former members have worked together on Watson Island and many
other issues that have been important for the City of Miami. Many of those
issues Maurice has led the charge. That's not the issue here. The issue here
is that not all the members of the Commission are as appraised of the information
that you have, that you understand, that Maurice understands and I don't think
that we are killing this project if we asking to have some additional time to
study it. If this project hasn't been killed in the last seven years another
few weeks or another month is not going to kill it I assure you. Now, what
I would like to do is try to find -some median ground from what Commissioner
Dawkins previously stated that he wanted to make a motion on and from the
other point of view and what I would like to do is to see if we could have some
additional weeks to be able to sit down with people from the administration
and go point by point so we can all understand it and then make our minds up.
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What I would like to do is see if we can take it up in the first week of January.
Mayor Ferre: I will tell you to simply the process, Vice -Mayor, I give you
the gavel and would like to be recognize for the purpose of making a motion.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, you are out of order you offered Commissioner
Dawkins the right to make the first motion.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, I recognize you for the purpose of making a motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, as has been said up here this is too, in my opinion,
too an important issue to be rushed into. I have no problems with us developing
a valuable piece of property, but it's not going any place. It's been here
all these years and it's not about to move within the next six months and if
the "developers that Mr. Gary, and the administration say are standing in the
wings ready to develop it, they do not mind in my opinion waiting two more
months". So, I move that this be continued until January when I have a chance
to sit down with Mr. Gary and the administration and study what they have and
then be able to assess what it is and vote on it.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, there is a motion on the floor, is there second?
Mr. Carollo: I second the motion. Commissioner Dawkins modified his motion
to meet what I really stated before. So, I second that motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now,... Let's see. Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa, we need some
parliamentary help here. I want to make a substitute motion which I think
I am entitled to do, but I have to pass the Chair to somebody for me to do
that. I would imagine I would pass the Chair to the person who is going to
be the next Vice -Mayor which is Commissioner Perez. Is that correct?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I would suggest Mr. Mayor, perhaps it would be better...
the matter would be better handled if you passed it to the most senior member
of the Commission, since we haven't had that.
Mayor Ferre: But isn't that the Chair's choice?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: So, I pass the Chair to Commissioner Perez, for the purpose of
recognizing me now for a substitute motion.
Mr. Perez: Are you going to present the motion?
Mayor Ferre: A substitute motion. Ok. I'm I recognized? Alright. The
substitute motion is ---Mr. Manager, help me with the wording so that we do this
softly now ---that the administration be instructed to start the process, that
the administration make appointments with each member of the Commission and
fully inform them of where we are and where we are going and where you are
recommending that we go, but that we not delay the process of advertising for
a public hearing due to the fact that we must be before the Cabinet in April
and that therefore, a public hearing be called on the thursday, the 5th of
January for the purposes of publicly discussing what you will be proposing
and that by that time the Commission will have the majority of it's questions
answered; further stating that if is the will of this Commission after hearing
your proposal to extend it beyond that, that that day can be extended for
the purposes of further information and I so move.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Point of information.
Mr. Perez: Is the motion understood? Does anyone have any comments?
Mr. Dawkins: Point of information. What is the difference in what the Mayor
just said and in what the motion that was made by Mr.... Mr. City Attorney.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: What is the difference between what the Mayor said bringing
it back on the 5th of January and in the.motion that Mr. Carollo and I made
which said that this could be held off until January, which could be the 5th
of January that would make it a substitute motion?
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Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I think Mr. Vice -Mayor, that the person best suited to
answer that, of course, is the maker of the motion, but I do know that there
is one element of time that is different in the sense that as I understood
the Mayor's substitute motion, he had a definite time for bringing the matter
back.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, if I may. There are two major differences. One, it
instructs the Manager to proceed with writing and issuing an RFP...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, listen to me. And secondly, J. L., that has to
be the document. It has to be a... We are traveling on a vehicle. The vehicle
has to... there has to be a vehicle. And secondly, we are calling for a public
hearing on the 5th of January to discuss that vehicle. Otherwise, J. L., there
is no way we can proceed.
Mr. Plummer: I got problems with the word you used "issuing".
Mayor Ferre: Subscribing to, recommending...
Mr. Plummer: Issue means to distribute.
Mr. Gary: No, develop an RFP.
Mr. Plummer: That's a big difference.
Mayor Ferre: Alright,...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. What does the maker of the motion not understand?
Mayor Ferre: Let me correct my statement. The Manager is instructed to
develop an RFP so that it can be discussed at a formal public hearing on the
5th day of January at what time? 2:00 O'clock?
Mr. Plummer: No, make it 10:00.
Mr. Gary: 10:00 O'clock.
Mayor Ferre: 10:00 O'clock in the morning. Alright.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me understand under discussion. There is a big
difference to my colleague Commissioner Dawkins and Carollo and the big
difference is that if you wait until the Sth of January you then have to go
through the same process of which hopefully, we will be starting today. But
I want to assure both of you and I want to tell the administration that I
expressed the same concerns that they have expressed. I am going to vote for
the motion to allow you to proceed, but I want to tell you as they have tried
to tell you in a motion that buddy, this is a big project and if I am not
satisfied, if I am not satisfied that I have all of the answers that they are
talking about I'm voting against it. You are not going to ram this down my
throat. I'm allowing you today for the purposes of timing to proceed, but I
want to tell you that if you think for one minute that I don't express the
same concerns that they have expressed to you and that if you do not satisfy
all of my concerns by that 5th of January I'm going to tell you my vote is
going to be in the negative. So, all I can tell you is all I'm voting for
here in the substitute motion is to allow you to start the time frame running.
That doesn't mean that on the 5th of January I won't vote to defer, but I am
telling you that unless you satify all of the questions that I have, I'm
voting against it.
Mr. Carollo: I have an additional question? What happens Mr. Manager, if we
don't come before the Cabinet in April?
Mr. Gary: There is a possibility that they would not extend the time. We
have already gotten about three or four extensions and I don't think they
are receptive to extending this any further.
Mayor Ferre: The Governor publicly said to the City of Miami "Now, City of
Miami, I'm going to vote with this. This is the last time that I and this
Cabinet will give you an extension." If we do not get this thing before
them... there is only one issue left before the Cabinet of the State of Florida
and that's the economic impact and unless we are moving by April, I don't think
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there is anyway that there be... If we are moving I think the Governor
would understand that we are in the midst of an RFP process and I
think that they would give us the time to conclude our RFP process.
Unless we are moving I don't see that the Governor... I don't even
know... unless we come back with a concluded RFP process they may
not give us an extension beyond April. I don't think there is any
guarantee, but for sure unless we are moving. So, it's a question
of time Commissioner. It's a question of time. That's the only
reason why we are under a tremendous time pressure to do anything before
a...
Mr. Carollo: That's one of the questions that I could not understand
Mr. Mayor, when we kept hearing the April deadline. My understanding
was somewhat different of the explanation that I received. I feel
very strongly that we have to completely understand this. And when
I say we, I mean all five members of the Commission. This is just
too important and unfortunately with the holidays all our times
are going to be very constrained, but at the same time I don't want
anybody to say or to feel that I in anyway shape or form did not
want to give this the opportunity to proceed and wanting to kill it
here based on the information that I have been getting. So, I'm
going to go ahead and vote for this motion, but I want to make it as
clear as I possibly can to the administration that I fully expect
for the first week of January when we meet again for this, for the
administration to have taken the time to explain this to me the way
it really is. Not the way some people might see it. Give me the
good with the bad so that I can make an intelligent decision.
Mr. Perez: Do we have any other comments? Ok, if not, call the roll.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: In voting for this Mr. Manager, I want on the record
from you that this is what you need now to proceed to advertise and to
move forward.
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir and this has to be followed by a resolution calling
the public hearing.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Alright, I vote "yes".
Mr. Dawkins: I'm going to vote "yes" and I would like for Mr. Gary
to tell me that it's true and truly is what he asked for and what
he really wanted and go home tonight and pray and say that he didn't
lie.
Mr. Gary: I think you and everybody here knows me that I have no
problems sleeping at night or looking in the mirror.
Mr. Plummer: No, the only problem you have at night is learning how
to pray.
Mr. Gary: No, this is what I want Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Perez: I vote "yes", but I want to emphasize that I vote conditioned
to the fact that each member of this Commission have the opportunity
to have the proper communication with the Manager Office on this issue.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Ferre who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1126
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ADMINISTRATION TO START THE PROCESS OF MAKING APPOINTMENTS
WITH EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION IN ORDER TO PROPERLY AND
FULLY INFORM HIM AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING IN
CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED THEME PARK IN WATSON ISLAND; FURTHER
STIPULATING THAT IN ORDER NOT TO DELAY THE PROCESS ANY FURTHER
THE CITY MANAGER IS INSTRUCTED TO DEVELOP AN "R.F.P." SO THAT IT
CAN BE PROPERLY DISCUSSED AT A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH PUBLIC
HEARING SHALL BE CALLED FOR THURSDAY, JANUARY 5th, FOR THE
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PURPOSE OF PUBLICLY DISCUSSING WHAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE
PROPOSING AND SUBJECT TO THE COMMISSION HAVING ALL OF ITS
QUESTIONS ANSWERED; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT IF AFTER GOING
THROUGH THE ABOVE -STATED PROCESS IT IS THE WILL OF THE
COMMISSION TO EXTEND THE DATE FOR THIS PROJECT, THAT IT BE
SO EXTENDED AT THAT TIME.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
18. GRANT $15,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS TO CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL.
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, now we are on Christian Hospital.
Mr. Carollo: Which one now?
Mayor Ferre: Christian Hospital.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, yesterday we had
a meeting with Honorable Claude Pepper, Dr. Simpson, Mr. Tony Estevez
and staff to discuss the issues surrounding the implementation of the
Christian Hospital development proposal, particularly as it relates
to the UDAG funding. We have had some snags with regard to this
project. The project has been faulted for a number of reasons and we
think we have come up with a solution that will give us an opportunity
to address all the issues that are currently outstanding. Before you
you have a memo which basically says that we would like for the City
Commission to authorize the City administration to proceed forward
with attempting to getting an extension of the UDAG grant until the
outstanding issues can be addressed and that they allocated fifteen
thousand dollars to complete the performer which will be personally
guaranteed by Mr. Simpson in order to complete this project. The
first is, is that the developer of Christian Hospital will attempt to
allow fifty-two percent Black ownership of the hospital as opposed to
the current two percent, that Dr. George Simpson, himself will guarantee
the fifteen thousand dollars which is necessary to do the financial
feasibility of the project in view of the current changes, that Mr.
Tony Estavez will also loan to Christian Hospital twelve thousand
five hundred to complete the feasibility study. The developers will
maintain the obstetrical unit and that we will address the issue of
the twenty-one thousand outstanding with Mr. Tony Estavez, but this
would not hold up the process. I think this is a fair and reasonable
approach to allowing us to continue the project, but at the same time
addressing those issues which members of the City Commission as well
as the staff have brought as it relates to this project.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, did Senator Pepper stay through the whole
meeting and was all of this... He understood all of this?
Mr. Gary: Yes, he does.
Mayor Ferre: And these are conditions that are forthcoming.
Mr. Gary: That he can accept. Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Did Mr. Tony Estevez understand?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
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Mayor Ferre: Dr. Simpson, you are here. Woul you step forward and
identify yourself on the microphone.
Dr. George Simpson: I'm Dr. George Simpson. I'm the Chairman of the
Board of Christian Hospital.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, Dr. Simpson, you have heard from the City Manager.
Are all these conditions that he has imposed acceptable to you?
Dr. Simpson: I would like to make a statement in explaining my...
Mayor Ferre: You are sure you don't want to just say "yes or no"?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, there is one correction. I just looked at Item
0...
Mayor Ferre: Is there anybody here representing Claude Pepper? Anybody
from his staff.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, there is one correction and that is minor and
that is on #5 and the twenty-one thousand dollar issue outstanding
was to be addressed between the City Manager, the City Attorney and
Mr. Estevez. It's not a condition of the fifteen thousand, but it's
a issue that has to be resolved.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. So, that would be separate from?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Now, with that as a condition are we all set? Are
you recommending this?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Any questions? Are you alright? Are you alright on
this? Is there a motion?
Mr. Perez: Why don't we have here in this file all these paper of
the letter from Tony Estevez, !verything that the non-profit group
to profit? Could we know who are the persons who are going to
participate in the whole group?
Mr. Gary: Yes, I can tell you right now. I'm sorry we don't have that
letter, but it's basically Mr.Estevez right now has ninety-eight
percent, Mr. Simpson has two percent. We are now... and Mr. Estavez
just did this because there was a gap in terms of the financing. He
is doing this...
Mr. Perez: But it's possible to have a copy of that record? Do you
have it in your office?
Mr. Gary: It's up in my office. I can get it for you, no problem.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, is there a motion on this item as recommended
by the Manager and as stipulated with these conditions?
Mr. Carollo: There is a motion based on the recommendations of
Manager with the conditions stipulated.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: I second subject to receiving that information with all
the members.
Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion? Alright, call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 63-1127
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $15,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, IN SUPPORT OF THE MIAMI CHRISTIA4
HOSPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY -
SPONSORED FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION FOR SAID PROJECT, SUBJECT
TO CONDITIONS THAT MAY BE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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19. SUPPORT GOVERNOR GRAHAM'S PLAN FOR THE MIAMI RIVER MANAGEMENT
COMMITTEE TO STUDY PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MIAMI RIVER, ETC.
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, Mr. Manager, I think we are on Item #A. This
is discussion of the Miami River Management Committee. _
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, the Governor is setting up a management, Miami
River Management Committee to study the problems associated with the
Miami River and to come up with recommendations that can be implemented
to improve this and this is just being brought for your attention and
to give me authorization to send the Governor a letter letting him
know that we are in support of his committee and that we would like -
to work and participate with him in establishments committee and
bringing about a plan of action for the improvements of Miami River.
Mr. Plummer: Only if I'm a member of that committee.
Mayor Ferre: Now, what is it you want us to do, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Plummer: Send a letter to the Governor telling him we support
his plan.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo seconds, of the Governor's recommended Miami
River Clean Up Committee, Miami River Coordinating Associations and
Miami River Committee, that we are in full support of it and will
participate in the program.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, it is not often that I volunteer, but I would
ask that in that motion to the Governor that he appoint J. L. Plummer
as a member of his committee.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let the motion reflect the... This is a
self-serving motion made by Commissioner Plummer that appoints himself.
Mr. Plummer: Based on Plummer's recommendation I move the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, further discussion on the motion moved by
Carollo, seconded by Perez including him. Call the roll please.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, Marilyn wants to say something.
Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry, go ahead.
Ms. Marilyn Reed: I just want to give you some information. That
is easily handled, Mr. Plummer, address your request to Dick Burrells
in the Governor's Office and that will get immediate action. Let me
fill you in on something else. Tuesday morning a group of us met with
Senator Pepper in his office and it was Pluto Cox, myself, David Block,
Fred Baccus and Jabo Merrill and we now have the ball rolling through
the Congressman to start working on the maintenance dredging for the
Miami River. It has to have a congressional authorization and we
have to have funding and the Congressman has agreed to start the ball
rolling. He was to talk to the Colonel and we are going to put this
together. You are not aware of the fact that the River is filling in
and I will tell you it is supposed to be a fifteen foot depth, which
is hampering commerce up there. It is filled in in places to nine
feet. So, this is going to be a very important and vital effort on
the part of the Congressman and we are all working together on this,
the environmentalist and the industry. So, that's just for your
information.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1129
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR LETTING HIM
KNOW THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF HIS
"MIAMI RIVER MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE", WHICH COMMITTEE WILL
STUDY THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MIAMI RIVER AND WILL
PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO IMPROVE
SAME; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI SHALL WORK
AND PARTICIPATE WITH HIM AND HIS COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO BRING
ABOUT A PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE MIAMI RIVER;
AND FURTHER REQUESTING OF THE GOVERNOR THAT HE NAME COMMISSIONER
J. L. PLUMMER, JR. AS A MEMBER OF HIS COMMITTEE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
20. DISCUSSION ITEM - AFFIRMATIVE ACTION REPORT.
Mayor Ferre: We are on Item #B, which is Affirmative Action. That's
a very good report and I think we ought to...
Mr. Robert Krause: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, this is the affirmative
action report for the period ending June 30, 1983. It was prepared by
the Affirmative Action staff headed by Dr. Hattie Daniels. It was
reviewed with me and prepared and submitted to the City Manager. This
report covers a ten year period. It's the first time we have had an
opportunity to report ten years of affirmative action efforts in the
City because the City did not begin keeping records of employment by
race and sex until 1973. The report indicates that the City has made
substantial progress particularly in the period since the City Commission
amended the Civil Service rules in 1979. It indicates that there is
a way to go to achieve what the City has established as its long term
goal, which is a work force that will represent the minorities and
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women in the City of Miami in proportion to their numbers in the
City of Miami labor market. Dr. Daniels and I will be glad to answer
questions if there are.
Mr. Dawkins: I think we all have it. Any questions from any member
of the Commission? Ok, we want to thank you for your report and...
We will take up Item "C".
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, did you finish on Item "B"?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: If I may, I have a few questions.
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: If I may, on Item "B". Mr. Krause, first of all I think
it's a very nice report and we should all be proud. Secondly, there
are some areas in here which concern me and I think you pointed several
of them out. One is women. Now, I don't see that women... that we
are doing quite as well with women as we should. What positive steps
do you recommend? Especially, for example, I noticed in the r.10ort
that Latin women for example, in the Police Department and somc ..kings
like that is there any remedial way perhaps through public service
programs on radio and television that we can appeal in that area?
Mr. Krause: I believe that we are beginning to make a very small change
in attitudes among Hispanic women, but I think it's going to be very
slow going. There simply... we did a calculation a couple of weeks ago
which indicated that if Hispanic women had applied for the Police
Department in proportion to their numbers in the labor market over the
last three years we would have had seventeen hundred fifty more Hispanic
women.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not questioning that. That's all nice theory. I'm
getting to the nitty gritty. See what I'm saying is we had Luisa
Vasquez here the other day that this Commission honored and that the
nation honored because she became the police women of the year or what
have you. You know, we were all proud of her and the work she has done
here for twenty years with Mike Gonzalez and what have you. Can't we
use that as the basis of getting the story across so we can get more
women involved in police work? I mean, what are you doing about it is
my question?
Mr. Krause: Well, I guess what we are doing is attempting to publicize
the availability of the jobs. We are attempting to publicize the fact
that Hispanic women do take part in or participate in those jobs. For
example, the brochure that we prepared a couple of years ago for police
recruitment we had a picture of one of the Hispanic women police officers.
We are attempting to indicate that these jobs are good jobs. There
are also socially acceptable jobs and I think that it is one of the
attitudinal .things that will take some time to change. Certainly our
department is working on it, but we will be very glad to take all the
help we can get from whatever source, including the Commission on the
Status of Women.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Krause, I think may be one of the problems that you
could be, not problems, but one of the solutions. The Catholic Church
has got some very interesting billboards in public service in which
they are looking for white collar employees. I think that you could
avail yourself of the public service with frilly collar employees.
What I'm saying is I know that within the bus bench provision, within
all of these outdoor advertising there is a certain amount of it being
dedicated. I have yet to see where we are taking advantage of using
that kind of media to attract and I think may be that would be a good
place to use it.
Mr. Krause: We will follow up on that. Dr. Daniels was just mentioning
to me also that she has been conducting a series of seminars directed
towards non-traditional employment opportunities for women. That's
one of the things that she has been doing in an attempt to change
attitudes and change what is not only a perception among Hispanic
women, but also among women in general that there are certain jobs
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that are for men and certain jobs for women. That's changing.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I have got another point that I want to make to
you. The will winner in the last ten years has been the Hispanic
community. In other words the Hispanic community has dramatically
increased its representation everywhere. Now, on the other hand the
Black community has done very well in upper echelon and professional
jobs, but reading these figures the sense that I get Mr. Krause, is
that we haven't done as well as I think we should have done across the
board. In other words, the Black community has increased--- I forget
the exact figures and I don't want to start searching for them, but
when I read it the other day... In other words, the dramatic increase...
Mr. Krause: It's something like from twenty-four to twenty-nine percent.
Yes.
Mayor Ferre: That's the point. In other words, the Latins went from
five to thirty and the Blacks went from twenty-four to twenty-five or
something, you know, we made a little progress, a couple of points
here and there and... but it was not as dramatic an increase. Now,
also there is the question of the distribution of where Blacks... you
know, Blacks went to work in the Sanitation Department and we didn't
have too many cops and too many fire fighters. We are beginning to
make some head way in that, but I think it's important that we keep
an eye on the distribution as to where Blacks are going in jobs so
that we see that we are impacting every sector so that it's more
representative of the universal work force. Lastly, there was a
question that was asked of me at WEDR, which was "Well that's very
fine City of Miami, you are hiring Blacks, but how long do they last?"
Now, I couldn't answer that because I don't know. So, I need from you ----
it may be a little bit early, but I would like to know what the turnover
is in the White male, White female, Black male, Black female, Hispanic
male, Hispanic female. The thrust of the question as I understood it
is that Blacks have a higher turnover in City of Miami jobs than do
Whites. Now, I don't know that is or isn't true, but I would like an
answer to that.
Mr. Carollo: Can we get it department by department so we can pin -point
it at best.
Mr. Krause: Sure, we will do a report on that. There is one piece of
information, Mr. Mayor, that you may be interested in in terms of what's
happening to the Black work force in the City government. There has
been a major redistribution of the Black work force, because as you
were indicating some years ago, I think as recently as 1977 about
eighty percent of Black employees in the City of Miami were employed
in service maintenance type jobs. Now, one of the things that the
City have done in the last few years is to increase the number of
police positions in the City by several hundred and at the same time
to decrease the number of service maintenance jobs by about three
hundred in the City. For example, by contracting out custodial work.
What that means is that the number of Blacks employed by the City in
those traditional service maintenance jobs has actually declined, but
the number of Blacks in other jobs has increased, because you know
the percentage of the work force has gone up from twenty-four to
twenty-nine percent. So that we now have the majority of Black
employees of the City are no longer in service maintenance jobs. They
are in professional jobs, para-professional, office clerical,
managerial and... you know that's a very encouraging trend. There is
still a lot more to be done.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. Other questions?
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, I would like to recognize the efforts of the
administration in increasing the overall minority participation in
all City levels, but I would like to clarify why we do we have a
low minority participation in the higher salary positions in the City
of Miami. For example, in positions between twenty-five and thirty-
five we only have twelve percent Black and Hispanic are nineteen point
eight percent. In the thirty-five thousand we have an eight percent
Black and twelve point four Hispanics. I think we need to have better
participation in the higher level of salaries. We have a great
participation under twenty-five thousand dollar salaries, but in the
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higher positions I think that we have to pay special attention to
this area. I would like to have a report from your office and from
the City Manager office in order to try to take a strong position to
increase the minority participation in the higher salary areas.
Mayor Ferre: Alright.
Mr. Krause: Commissioner, you are correct. We will provide a report
on that. If I may very briefly indicate to you that the percentages
in these higher salary brackets have also been changing in the last
five or six years and one of the things that is a major effect on those
salary brackets is that as salaries increase in the Police and Fire
Departments we wind up with what used to be executive level salaries
now being paid to, for example, police officers now in the second
longevity earn more than thirty thousand dollars a year. Police
sergeants some of them are earning above thirty-five thousand dollars
a year. So, there has been a large increase in the number of people
earning those salaries and the largest numbers of them have been
Anglo males who were employed in the Police and Fire Departments
before the City began its affirmative action program.
Mr. Perez: Yes, but I think that seniority cannot be the only thing
to include the minority people in the higher salary level. I think
that we have to pay special consideration and I would like to have
some recommendations from the Manager office in order to getting a
better minority proportion in the higher salary. That's my main
concern, but I recognize all the participation in the whole City of
Miami, but especially in this area I want to pay special attention.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir, Mr. Lopez.
Mr. Lopez: I would like to ask a question please. You know, I hear
over here talking about the minority groups and all that kind of stuff
and I haven't read completely the report of Mr. Krause, but I have a
question, you know. When we talk about Hispanics over here and
probably he is saying that it was an advance of about thirty percent
or whatever. I haven't read the report, but a lot of advance. I
would like to find out if Mr. Krause or his department... if Mr. Krause
and his department have any in the Hispanics issue you have any
subdivision to see how many other Hispanics, not Cubans, like Puerto
Ricans and Colombians are participating in this grandiose report that
you have. I don't want to embarrass anybody, but I would like to know
if you have anything... you know, because I hear that there is a lot
of advances for the Hispanic community, but I don't see any Puerto
Ricans hired and the Mayor is Puerto Rican, you know, I don't want to
embarrass him, but I would like to know if there is any Puerto Ricans
in the system in the City of Miami. And I know that hasn't been
addressed before and I would like to find out.
Mr. Krause: There are Puerto Ricans employed by the City and I don't
have specific numbers on them because under the...
Mr. Dawkins: Let's do this, Mr. Krause, let's break it down and get
a report to me and I will get it to Mr. Lopez as to the breakdown
of the Hispanics or Latins and their, as I say, ethnic... you know,
where they are originally from or what have you and then we will get
that to him. And he wants to know where they are employed. Alright,
we will get back to you, Mr. Lopez. Thank you.
21. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE RELOCATION OR DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING
PUBLIC LIBRARY BUILDING ON BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE NO ACTION UNTIL THE PRIVATE SECTOR
HAS LIVED UP TO OTHER COMMITMENTS MADE IN CONNECTION WITH THE
REDEVELOPMENT OF BAYFRONT PARK.
Mr. Dawkins: Alright, Item "C" please.
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Mr. Carl Kern: My name is Carl Kern. I'm the Director of the Parks and
Recreation Department. What I'm going to do is introduce Mr. Church
this morning who is going to make a presentation from the Library
Committee which you appointed about a year ago. They have had
extensive hearings, advertisements and this sort of thing and they
have come to you today with the final recommendation on the Library
building in Bayfront Park. Mr. Church.
Mr. Church: Do I have the Commission's attention?
Mr. Plummer: If you had anymore of it you wouldn't know what to do
with it.
Mr. Church: I'm used to better attention in my classroom. I volunteered
for this presentation because I'm the only pensioner who has time to
wait for the item to come up on the Commission agenda. A meeting...
the last one held October 17th, came up with these recommendations.
Ms. McKay who is our representative from the Parks Department meeting
with the committee suggested auctioning off fixture in the building
prior to demolition. Those committee members present agreed that
such an auction would be impractical due to the cost involved in
removing the fixture to the fact that demolition contractors usually
assumes the risk of salvage. We would be perhaps in a... the City
would be in a position of having to take some additional protection
in the way insurance. The committee discussed Mr. Cather's recommendation
that the rubble be used in the redevelopment of the park. It was
agreed that if the proper timing and coordination could be achieved
between the City, the County and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers the
possibility existed to use the concrete rubble as bedding stone for
the rip rap at the outside of the new bulkhead and as film material
for the land fill operation at the north end of the parr. The
Committee's final decision was that a recommendation to demolish based
on the apparent unavailability of tenants and sites be presented to the
Commission at their November 10, 1983 meeting. I understand that that
was postponed until this time. And the final report is as follows,
that the library building in Bayfront Park should be demolished. A
study should be conduct to determine if the rubble could be used
either for film material, for the land fill operation at the north end
of the park or for the bedding stone for the rip rap to be placed
along the waterward edge by way of background for this recommendation.
Since our appointment on September 9, 1982 by Resolution No. 82-833
the six members of the Library Relocation and Utilization Committee
have studied sites and uses for the building as charged in Resolution
Nos. 82-740 and 82-833. (A). The Committee was asked to give first
preference to the Culmer/Overtown area as an appropriate site. Moving
the building to this area was found not to be structurely or financially
feasible. The building would have to be cut into sections to be moved
anywhere West of Biscayne Boulevard, South of Southeast 2nd Street or
North of McAuthur Causeway overpass. Due to the building's construction
a shell would have to be built around each section before it was cut
to provide support. The building would lack the continuity when cut
apart that it would have as designed. These shells would in effect
amount to buildings themselves. Once moved in this manner properly
realigning the sections would be extremely difficult. (B). In order
to find other sites and uses a request for proposals was advertised
in the Miami News, the Miami Times, the Miami Review and Diario Las
Americas. The additional copies were mailed directly to the Maritime
Museum, the Insurance Exchange of the Americas, the YWCA of Greater
Miami, the YMCA of Greater Miami. an aside these were agencies
mentioned in the discussion before this Commission a year ago, September.
The only response received was that of the Maritime Museum. After
studying the building the Board of Trustees voted to make no proposal
for the disposition of the building. Therefore, as the committee has
been unable to find acceptable relocation site and tenant we recommend
that the library building be demolished in accordance with Resolution
No. 82-740. That is the entirety of the report as prepared. If
there are any questions we shall attempt to answer them.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, let me ask you. Were there any Hispanics
or Blacks in the committee, in your committee that you chaired?
Mr. Church: Well, my impression was that Mr. Mariano Cruz who attended
the last meeting as I read is Hispanic. I don't recall that there was
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any Black who is...
Mayor Ferre: Well, as I recall Mr. Ron Frazier was very active on that
committee and as I remember he was put on that committee.
Mr. Church: I believe you are correct. However, the people who attended
the last meeting were those who's interest didn't flag to such an extent
that they quick attending meetings.
Mayor Ferre: I see, ok. So, the point therefore, is it is your
recommendation that there is no way for us to save that building in
an economical or intelligent way?
Mr. Church: Really I can see no such hope as the Miami News quoted
me this last week.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any questions?
Mr. Church: With the conditions that were placed upon me in the
resolution as made by the Commission.
Mr. Carollo: Approximately how much did that building cost when it
was originally built, about a million dollars?
Mr. Church: I believe the initial cost was more like three million
dollars.
Mr. Carollo: When it was originally built.
Mr. Church: Yes, and the...
Mr. Plummer: And today's replace cost is six.
Mr. Church: Just off the top of my head my recollection is that the
reproduction value would be about six million dollars. That was an
estimate, I believe that the Parks Department came up with. Mr. Kern
might confirm that or...
Mr. Carollo: That might be quite a conservative estimate at that.
Mr. Church: Well, my guess by the way inflation has taken place in
the last thirty-seven years that it would be more like twelve million,
but they were making it more realistic.
Mayor Ferre: When was the public hearing Mr. Manager, you remember
we had two public hearings.
Mr. Carollo: You are probably right on that.
Dr. Theede: It's been two and half years ago, sir.
Mayor Ferre: We had two public hearing. We had one public hearing and
Marshall Harris and a group of people thought that we hadn't done it
properly and so we had another public hearing. Do you remember that
J. L.? We had a big... and this place was full of people and...
Mr. Plummer: No, they wanted to make... the other proposal was the
YMCA, if you will recall they were losing their old building.
Mr. Carollo: I can't help but to think that here is all this space
that we are renting and I just like, at least for the sake of
information for the Manager to present to us by the next Commission
meeting a full amount of the dollars that we are spending renting
space on a yearly basis. And I look at this building that spent
three million dollars when it was originally built. I think you are
right sir, the six million dollar estimate is awfully low. It's
probably closer to that ten%twelve million dollar figure that you
talked about and here is a perfectly sound building that we can convert
into inexpensive office space for the City of Miami and we are going to
tear it down.
Mr. Plummer: How about City Hall?
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Mr. Carollo: Well, that's an idea J. L. I mean, there is a
thousand one uses that we could have for that building and the only
thing that we are looking at now is to tear that building down, but in
meantime we are spending a pretty hefty figure in dollars in going
out and renting office space because we don't have any. I don't know
I can't understand that kind of logic.
Dr. Theede: Mr. Carollo and Mayor Ferre, I was not put on the committee
The committee remained inert until such time as I got on my hostile
war path and the committee was activated. I went to one meeting. That
meeting was in the afternoon at that particular time Mr. Frazier left
word that he would be unable to make day meetings and requested that
the meetings be held at night. As you know, I work at night so I
couldn't continue to be an observer on the meeting. However, in that
first meeting there were what I felt were unnecessary administrative
restraints placed on the activity of the committee. In other words,
you can't do this, you can't that, you cannot do the other and by the
time all of these restraints were put on by employees of the City of
Miami there is absolutely nothing that can be done with that library.
But I want to know why these restraints were being placed. As I had
talked with someone, we have a parking lot, we purchase land, that
library can be moved. It can be moved economically and it can be used.
Now, they are right. It cannot be moved beyond the limits of the
expressways because it has to be taken apart and that structure is
not designed to be taken apart. Now, as far as moving it. You know,
you are getting ready either today or the next meeting to come in and
have Bayside put in, all kinds of buildings. You know, the whole
purpose of taking this building down is so that you can make the park
beautiful, you can look down Flagler and you can see the Bay and then
you are turning right around and going up five blocks and putting in
buildings. This is inconsistent.
Mayor Ferre: Dr. Theede, we have expressed this, you have expressed
it. We have had public hearings when there wasn't a seat available
in this hall, people were overflowing out into the street. We have had
two full fledged public hearings. This Commission has voted on this
issue and has taken a position. Now, you know, we cannot continually
go on thrashing and you know, this issue... Now, I can... you know,
if there is three people here who want to start it all over again
they are welcome to do it, but...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me tell... excuse me, I'm sorry. Are you
finished?
Mayor Ferre: No, I'm just... the statement I want to make is we have
thrashed through all of this. These arguments have all been made.
_ They have been presented. They have been analyzed. They have been
talked...
Dr. Theede: But they were told you can't move this building to another
location on public property. This is what that committee was told.
That was their initial... when we were sitting in there and I'm not
a member of the committee, but because I'm interested in saving the
building I sat there and I heard them say you cannot do these things.
They didn't say if you want to do these things you can go to the
Commission and request it.
Mayor Ferre: As I remember the guidelines were that we would spend up
to--- was it two million dollars? That the Commission would allow
an expenditure up to two million dollars to move this building around.
Dr. Theede: Wait, but when we went into that first committee, that
first committee day, I said let's move it to where the parking lot is
and automatically that was verboten, completely and totally. And
the places that that building can be moved economically and utilized
economically, we were told by the City employees, you can't do it.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I have always been of the opinion that that
building could be moved without too much of an expense as long as it
stays within the boundaries of the park area and I think the way to
really move that building, because the idea is we want to get on with
the rebuilding of Bayfront Park and the way to move that building
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is to jack it up and roll it and larger buildings than that have been
moved, now, and just move it down the road and put it on the other side
of the Dodge Island Road and that could be the beginning of our so-called
Maritime Museum.
Mr. Plummer: First of all I would ask that the Clerk forward to members
of the Commission when we come back from lunch the resolution that this
Commission passed and the instructions given to the committee. If what
I am picking up is that not only was our resolution enter into, but
other people imposed their personal ideas and I personally would like to
know what they were. Second of all, Mr. Mayor, let me tell you that
two and a half years ago even though at that time I fought the
demolition of that building and will continue to do so, there was a
different set of criteria that we were traveling under that is now
proven to be false. And that criteria was as you will recall the
very important people that came before this Commission, the so-called
Shakers and Movers, who told this Commission that they would raise
fifty percent from the private sector for the redoing of that park.
This is for tta: third year. I will ask any member of that committee
how much money is in the bank and I will bet you that the answer is
still the same, none. They have not raised one dollar. They have
raised a lot of phantoms about people who are interested. They have
raised a lot of questions and a lot of no answers. I think that if
it is appropriate at this time I will make a motion that at no time
is the demolition of that building to be proceeded with until this
Commission has had the opportunity to review the situation. I think it
is... I know that what we are playing with and I know what the Mayor
is going to tell me, that Nogochi has said either that building toes
or he walks.
Dr. Theede: Let him walk.
Mr. Plummer: May be just may be that, that might be the better part of
valor that he walks. Now, you know, when we as... when we engaged Mr.
Noguchi it was on the promise of Tina Hills and all of the rest of those
people who came to this Commission and said we will raise fifty percent
from the public sector. The only person that I know of who has lived
up to his word and God bless him, is Claude Pepper. He has got the
money from the Corps of Engineers and he has done what he promised.
The people of the private sector who were going to raise fifty percent
have not got a dime. Now, I'm just saying that if they don't come
through with their promises I don't think anybody can expect this
Commission to live up to theirs.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I also, think that you in fairness must tell Claude
Pepper and the Corp of Engineers because they may want the men to stop
the bulkheading.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't disagree with that. You will remember
my concern from day one.
Mayor Ferre: I think... you know, I think out of... I think the only
way we can be honest about this is, because we have made some promises
to the Corps of Engineers and I wouldn't want either Claude Pepper or
this City embarrassed. So, if we are going to stop then I think we
should stop it immediately and let the Corps of Engineers no that they
can use that five million dollars on some other project.
Mr. Plummer: No, I don't think you should do that. I think you have
got to be fair. We dealt with Claude Pepper on honorable terms
predicated on commitments made by the private sector. Now, I don't
think you, Mr. Mayor, at the time that you voted for this before.were
any less than the faith placed upon the people who stood here and
represented that they would do such. That has changed. They have
not raised in three years ten cents.
Mayor Ferre; J. L., look, you and I have a basic difference in this
whole thing and see, I don't care what Goulds said or didn't say.
I'm very upset that Gould hasn't committed to it and I don't care
what Southeast Bank has or hasn't done or anybody, because you see,
what I am interested in is developing... I have been to Detroit and I
have seen what Hart Plaza does for Detroit and I would like to see a
duplication of that in Miami.
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Mr. Plummer: So, would I.
Mayor Ferre: And we have been throught this whole process. We have
a committee. We have been through public hearings and you know, but
the majority of this Commission is the one that determines what happens.
So, if you... only think that we need to play fair and we need to let
people know where we stand and if we change our positions, I think we
need to tell them that we want to save the library, that we don't want
to proceed with the Noguchi plan, that we want to leave Bayfront Park
the way it is and let the Corps of Engineers go use their money
somewhere else and I think we need... My concern is Claude Pepper.
Claude Pepper has put a lot of time and effort into this. He has done
the impossible. This is the only job that's funded like this. It's...
let's not kid ourselves it's funded because of Claude Pepper's efforts.
If we want that job, that it's going to start and as I understand it
in January, I think we have a moral obligation to tell the U.S. Corps
of Engineers and Claude Pepper that we have changed our mind. That's
all.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think it is only fair that this City live
up to its commitment. Our commitment was to tear that building down,
but I think also is a responsibility on that same group with the
private sector who came forth and said they would raise ten million
dollars, I think that one is predicated on the other. I would be
willing to make a motion at this time that no consideration be given
to the destruction or demolition of that building until such time as
the private sector has lived up to their commitment to this City.
They made a commitment, it's taken three years, they have not moved
one inch to that commitment. And I'm not...
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I will recognize it as a motion.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. I am not talking about individuals
such as Southeast Bank of what they do or might not do, Mr. Gould of
what he might or might not do. But I think it is only fair that this
City should live up to its commitment predicated on the presentation
made to this Commission and at such time as the private sector has
lived up to theirs, we then will live up to ours and until that time
nothing be done.
Mayor Ferre: Recognize the motion, is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: There is a second for that motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, under discussion?
Mr. Carollo: I would like to open it up for discussion now which the
Mayor did. I was one of the three members of the Commission that was
here when we first originally voted for that and I voted to save the
library and my feelings then are the same feelings now. Let me tell
you why. I can't see the logic in the City of Miami going out and
spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in rent every year and here
we have a building that's a sound building that could probably meet
most, if not all of the needs that we have in additional space. A
building that if we were to go and construct it today probably would
cost somewhere in the neighborhood of ten to twelve million dollars,
may be more and we are going to tear it down. I just can't see that
Now, I'm sorry for Mr. Noguchi. I know he is a renowned, world wide
artist, but this is Miami here and we are not New York City, Chicago,
Los Angeles. Our budget is very small compared to those cities and
we have to be responsible to the taxpayers of the City of Miami. They
are the people that are footing the bills that we have in this City.
While the bills get higher the service that we are giving them gets
smaller and I think that if we were to go ahead and tear that library
down and particularly without studying the uses that we could have for
our own office space within that library. I think we will be making a
grave mistake and particularly when it's almost three years since the
private sector, should I say those people in the private sector that
promised they were going to raise the millions that they said and
they still haven't raised it. I'm going to put my cards on the table.
I am one of those that does not want that library to be torn down and
I am willing to make a motion towards that any time. I think that at
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this point though, it would be best to proceed with the motion that
we have on the floor instead me going ahead and making a substitute
motion, so that no one would say that "well, we didn't give those people
from the private sector the opportunity to raise the money. What I
do think we should do is set a reasonable time limit so that these
people that were going to raise the ten million dollars can come forth,
but if by a certain date they do not, then I will be willing then
immediately to make the motion that the library would not be torn down
and that we immediately make a study to rehabilitate the library as
best. So that instead of having scores of different buildings around
town that we are leasing space from that we can put as many of our
departments or personnel into that library.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we have a motion and a second, is there further
discussion on the motion? Call the roll.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: In voting "no" let me emphatically put on the record that
I don't think the tail in such an important thing should ever wag the
dog and I think I have the right to express my feeling on this and my
feelings are very strong that we should not be back paddling on such an
important issue as the redevelopment of this whole park area that we
have gone on record on. We have had two public hearings. This
Commission voted for the tearing down of that building whether or not
the private sector comes through or doesn't come through, whether or
not the State comes through or doesn't come through, whether or not
the Corps of Engineer comes through or doesn't come through there is
a principle involved and the principal is whether or not we want to
redevelop Bayfront Park. I am for the redevelopment of Bayfront
Park and even though I am a minority of one in this vote I cannot in
good conscience do any other thing but vote "no" against the motion.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, let the record reflect that this Commission
is not back peddling. This Commission is asking the private sector who
took the initiative to come forth and make this proposal to this
Commission. They are the ones who are back peddling and have not lived
up to their commitment. This motion is very clearly thought out that
at such time as they live up to their commitment based on their incentive
this Commission will live up to its commitment. We are not in anyway
defeating this nor should any letters go to the Corps of Engineers or
anyone else asking that funding be withdrawn. What we are saying is
that the people who came and made this proposal have not done what
they are saying and we cannot continue to do such without their
commitment.
Mayor Ferre: The people who came and made this proposal is us. Let me
perhaps put it in context of another situation that occurred similar.
We were going to develop Watson Island, the original concept of Watson
Island was that the private sector was going to put up the money. The
private sector didn't put up the money...
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: ...and so then we turn around and changed our whole
premise so that the public sector would put up sixty-five million
dollars, because what was important to this Commission at that time
was the project. Now, I submit to you that was important is the idea
as to what we want to do in Bayfront Park. If we want to improve
Bayfront Park, then I think we need to achieve it as best we can.
If we can do it through private donations and foundations and
corporations, fine. If we can't then we have got to find other ways
of doing it. Now, that's just one person's belief.
Mr. Dawkins: And I hate to prolong this, but I would be remiss if I
were to sit here and not be heard also. I am one of the ones who sat
here and said that we should not be developing Bayfront Park at the
expense of allowing intercity parks to deteriorate and for people to
sit here on this Commission and say that people are back peddling
because they refuse to allow certain things to happen is irritating.
So, I still say ---I have said it before and I'm going to say it now
and I will say it later--- we should not develop Bayfront Park at the
expense of allowing intercity parks to deteriorate.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83-1130
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION STIPULATING THAT NO
CONSIDERATION SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE PROPOSED DESTRUCTION
OR DEMOLITION OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY BUILDING UNTIL SUCH
TIME AS THAT PORTION OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHICH
PREVIOUSLY MADE A COMMITMENT TO RAISE FUNDS IN CONNECTION
WITH THIS PROJECT HAS LIVED UP TO THEIR COMMITMENT TO
THIS CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: None.
22. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE THE SAME AMOUNT GRANTED LAST
YEAR FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS CHRISTMAS PARTY.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have two things to say. I have to leave at
5:00 o'clock, I would like for the Commission to know. I also, would
like for the lady who asked for the police protection in the hall to
know that I favor giving up the rental for the hall as I think we did
last year and if I'm gone, if it's proven that we gave them anything
else other than the rental I'm in favor of that.
Mayor Ferre: Just make it in the form of a motion that way
Mr. Dawkins: I move that the christmas party be given the same thing
that we gave last year whatever it may be. If it was rental plus...
Mayor Ferre: With the senior cizitens. Alright, is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? That's just a matter of principle,
right?
Mr. Dawkins: Right.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1131
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DOLLARS
AND/OR ASSISTANCE WHICH WAS GRANTED BY THE CITY LAST YEAR
IN CONNECTION WITH THE "SENIOR CITIZENS CHRISTMAS PARTY".
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
23. PLAQUES, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
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Proclamation: Declaring Mary Hill Day. For her efforts in
Presented creating the Economic Opportunity Act of 1973.
Key: To world reknown Spanish singer Rocio Jurado.
Presented
Presentation to By CAMACOL, Latin Chamber of Commerce, of a
the City: horse for the Police Department Mounted Patrol.
Presented Mr. Eloy Gonzalez, President, will make
presentation.
Commendation: ASPIRA
Presented
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24. RECEIVE, OPEN AND READ OUT LOUD SEALED BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
LYNWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5487-C&S.
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This being the date and time advertised for receiving sealed bids
for Lynwood Sanitary Sewer Improvement District SR-5487-C&S, the Mayor
announced that the City Commission was now ready to receive sealed bids:
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 83-1132
A MOTION TO OPEN AND READ ALOUD BIDS RECEIVED IN CONNECTION
WITH THE LYNWOOD SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5487-
C&S.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice. A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
BIDS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING FIRMS:
Joe Reinertson Equipment Co.
Lanzo Construction Co., Fla
Ric -Man Construction, Inc,
25. RATIFY AND CONFIRM ACTION OF CITY MANAGER IN THE ALLOCATION OF
$3,513.94 TO COVER OPERATIONAL COST OF ELIZABETH VIRRICK BOXING
GYM THROUGH DECEMBER 8, 1983. ALSO, DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE ON MONTH -ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COCONUT GROVE CARES AND
TO ARRANGE MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CARL KERN.
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Mayor Ferre: Alright, we will now take up Item"E", which is Coconut
Grove Cares. Mr. Kern. Mr. Kern, first of all, my congratulations and
condolences to you at the same time. I don't know in which order.
Mr. Carl Kern: My name is Carl Kern, Director of Parks and Recreation.
Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, Item "E" concerns the boxing program
presently being administered by Coconut Grove Cares. They have run
this program since 1981, prior to that the program was run by the staff.
It is the administration's position that the program is not being run
in a cost efficient manner. It could be significantly upgraded if the
City ran the program itself. We are recommending termination of the
contract and the City take over the program and run it itself. Here
to speak for Coconut Grove Cares is Ms. Virrick. I'm sure she has some
words to say on the subject.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, Ms. Virrick.
Ms. Elizabeth Virrick: This is a complete surprise to me. I didn't
know the City was thinking of taking over the program. I was simply
going to... we came to ask for an increase in our grant because of the
information that was given to you which we found to be inaccurate and
because of the benefits that have inured to the City by the program
through these years that we have been running it ourselves and we were
asking for an increase in the grant and I spoke to most of the -
Commissioners and I felt that they were in accord with what I was
requesting. So, I came here this afternoon with the intention of
asking you in the interest of saving time if you had decided in our
favor and I wouldn't put up all the arguments that I had prepared to
put up to ask for the increased grant.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Gary: First of all, I think it would probably be appropriate to
make us whole and proper to approve the prior expenditures to Ms.Virrick,
which this City Commission has extended up until the last meeting and
I extended beyond that period of time based on a concensus from the
Commission and that is a resolution that's under Item "E" just so that
we can start from there first. It's ratifying the action of the City
Manager.
Mayor Ferre: It's recommended that an allocation of three thousand
five one three from the special programs and accounts...
Mr. Plummer: How much?
Mayor Ferre: Three thousand five hundred thirteen for the operation of
Elizabeth Virrick Gym from November 16th to December 8th be ratified.
So, we need to do that before we do anything else. Is that right?
Mr. Gary: That's correct.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion? I don't think there is any argument
with that right?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: It's moved by Plummer.
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Demetrio Perez, further discussion, call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 83-1134
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING, AND CONFIRMING THE ACTION
OF THE CITY MANAGER IN AUTHORIZING AN ALLOCATION OF $3,513.94
FROM THE EXISTING PROJECT BALANCE, SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS,
TO COCONUT GROVE CARES, INC., TO COVER THE OPERATIONAL COST
OF THE ELIZABETH VIRRICK BOXING GYM FROM NOVEMBER 16, THROUGH
DECEMBER 6, 1983.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins.
Mayor Ferre: Now comes the hard issue.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I would recommend as a compromised solution in
view of what I know right now, that this program as opposed to getting
a hump sum amount of money be a subcontract under the Recreation and
Parks Department to be administered by the Parks Department utilizing
existing people so that we can insure that the performance is the
type that the City Commission wants. Can you live with that?
Mayor Ferre: Elizabeth, if we don't do something like that we are
going to just forever have this thing hanging over us. Now, we are
going to have to have I think a little bit of good faith and trust
that the administration has proper intentions and I think we have to
have some kind of a handle on this situation. Miller Dawkins expressed
it very well at the last Commission meeting and I think we all want
to help you. We all believe in you. We all love you, but we have
serious concerns as to whether or not you can dedicate the time to
properly oversee and control and there is a tremendous burden that is
placed upon you. I think that this Commission would feel better if
that burden was shared and if the dollars that the City of Miami is
expending would have some kind of a relationship to the administration.
I am in no way being critical of the former people involved in the
department. We now have a new department head and I think this is a
good opportunity with which to begin perhaps with a new leaf and I
would be hopeful, Mr. Kern, that rather than being a thorn or a road
block that you and your staff will go out of your way with the people
in place in assuring that this program improves and comes up to the
standards that the City expects from other programs. I realize Ms.
Virrick, that what you say is that it's proper that it's unfair to
establish this program with Moore Park and Shenandoah, but we have to
do it. You say it's like comparing ants and elephants, but we have to
have guide marks and bench marks to deal with and now we cannot be,
I don't think, creating these separate entities that come back and the
problem is that you say you are right and I'm sure you are right, but
it just keeps coming back and back and back and back again and I think
what Miller Dawkins said at the last meeting is appropriate. You
know, I think there has to be a balance and an end to all these things
and I think that the Manager is offering what seems to be a reasonable
compromise, which is that the people that are in the program be retained
and maintained, but that .the program be put under the guidance of the
City of Miami administration. And I think you will avoid a lot of
problems.
Ms. Virrick: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, Ma'am.
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Ms. Virrick: ... and Commissioners, you have open up a big bag of
worms and if we are going to talk about this, this is going to take
a lot of conversation, because a great deal of information has been
given out about this that is not accurate. I can't tell you how many
young lives we have turn around. I can't tell you how many... Gary
can tell you how many golden gloves winners we have had and the successes
we have had. We have had one very great weakness. Our recordkeeping
has not been what it should be. I have just instituted a new system
of recordkeeping that will be a whole lot more accurate than what you
have received before. I think before you remove this from Coconut
Grove Cares there should be considerable discussion.
Mayor Ferre: Well, we are not removing it from Coconut Grove Cares.
Ms. Virrick: Well, that's what I understood.
Mayor Ferre: Coconut Grove Cares will continue to function and the
people will continue to function. What we are asking for here... as
I understand it the Manager is asking for accountability and the only
way that he feels safe on that premise of accountability is involving
the administration somehow at the beginning of the process rather than
at the end of the process. He may or may not be right, but I'm willing
to... I'm just talking for one person. There may be three people on
this Commission that feel different.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think we need to hear exactly from the Manager
what he is proposing.
Mayor Ferre: He just said it. Continue the same program, continue the
same people and have them report to Carl Kern and have it under the
administration of the City of Miami. Isn't that what you said?
Mr. Gary: That's correct, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Well, then answer me this question. To what level
is it going to be funded?
Mr. Gary: I think the City Commission should agree to fund it at the same
level it was funded before and if the administration deems that additional
monies are needed, that we would come back to the City Commission in those
cases where additional funds are needed.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, let me tell you something. That's tantamount
to saying and telling Coconut Grove Cares we are going to make damn
sure you can't do a good job. Now, that's what it's tantamount to.
Mr. Gary: Well, Ex -Vice -Mayor Plummer, first of all we think this
community needs a boxing program. We think that the efforts or the
philosophy and the goals and objectives of a boxing program envisioned
by Ms. Virrick, who I love dearly in terms of what she has done for
this community is vital to this community and under no circumstances
do we want to jeopardize this program. And I say those comments
as the City Manager and as a person raised in the ghetto in terms of
the benefits of this particular program and under no circumstances are
we trying to jeopardize this program and I will assure you that that's
not our intent and that will not happen.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Kern, what are you spending for the program in
Shenandoah?
Mr. Kern: We have a capita cost of eight hundred dollars for...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Kern, how much are you spending in Shenandoah Park?
Mayor Ferre: If you don't have it just say so. I mean, you are new
on this job....
Mr. Kern: Yes, I don't have that right...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Kern, how much are you spending in Edison Center or
Moore Park?
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mr. Kern: Moore Park we have a... I can give you the per capital
cost, sir. That's all I have with me.
Mr. Gary: That's good enough. No.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Kern, how much are you spending in Moore Park?
Mr. Gary: Hold up. No. Give him the per capita cost. That's
adequate enough.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, sir, I have asked a question as a Commissioner
of this City and I demand an answer.
Mr. Gary: I'm saying that's what he is going to give you.
Mr. Plummer: Now, if he can't answer it, he can't answer it.
Mr. Gary: No, he has the per capita cost.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, I will ask the question a third time. What
are you spending for the boxing program in Moore Park? That's a
simple question. If you don't have the answer...
Mr. Kern: I would have to go back and put that together.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Kern: I don't have that with me, sir, I'd have to put that together.
Mr. glummer: That's fine. Now, you know what that tells me. You are
directing those two programs and you don't know how much those programs
cost. How in the hell are you going to run this program. Mr. Gary,
how much are you spending in the Police Department for the boxing
program?
Mr. Gary: First of all, I would like to...
Mr. Plummer: Am I speaking English?
Mr. Gary: Yes, but can I respond?
Mr. Plummer: If you will answer my question, sir, you can take all
day to explain your explanation.
Mr. Gary: I will answer your question.
Mr. Plummer: My question is simple. How much are you spending in
the Police Department for the boxing program?
Mr. Gary: First of all I would like to say that...
Mr. Plummer: Call me when he gets finished all of his explain and tell
me the answer that I asked.
Mr. Gary: No, I'm going to give you an answer, but first of all, I
think it's important to recognize that Mr. Kern is the new director
of a consolidated department and I think it would be fair to him to
give him the opportunity or to recognize the opportunity that he may
not have the information that the recreation director may have had at
that particular point and time. Now, I will give you...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, Mr. Kern should have never appeared here if
he was not prepared to answer the questions.
Mr. Gary: He will give you the answers to those questions right now.
Ms. Virrick: In the meantime may I say something?
Mr. Kern: Yes, sir, I have the per capita cost.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, excuse me. Mr. Gary, I'm still asking the
question of you, sir. How much is the Police boxing program?
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Mr. Plummer: How can it be so difficult. Do you want me to call the
computer center?
Mr. Gary: No, he is finding it right now. Would you give him time?
Mr. Kern: The Shenandoah program is approximately twenty thousand
dollars, Moore Park is twenty-seven thousand eight hundred dollars and
Gibson is one hundred twenty-six thousand.
Mr. Dawkins: For the boxing program? A hundred twenty-six thousand
dollars in Gibson?
Mr. Gary: Yes, but see...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, my learned colleague. For the forth time.
How much are you spending for the boxing program in the Police Department?
Mr. Kern: One hundred twenty-six thousand dollars.
Mr. Gary: He gave you one twenty-six.
Mr. Plummer: You are so far incorrect you are not even in the same
ball park. It is four hundred fifty thousand dollars.
Mr. Kern: I will have to check that sir.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, you go find the figures and I will show them to you.
Ok. You got three full-time policemen and a public service aide. That
doesn't take a hundred twenty thousand dollars. That's over that
figure.
Mr. Gary: Yes. If I may...
Mr. Plummer: Yet you want to take this outfit and you want to cut
them to the bone so they are going to intentionally look bad and then
you are going to say to this Commission later on, well, we told you
they couldn't do it. You damn right they can't do it, because you
don't do it yourself.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Gary: First of all to look at a bottom line cost is not a proper
way of evaluating the program. You first have to look at the number
of people being served in terms of the total cost to determine the
total cost per participant and this is a figure that Commissioner
Plummer has been using constantly for day care. Now, under no
circumstances are we... first of all, the Police Department serves a
larger number of people which Commissioner Plummer and I have talked
about in terms of the success of that program and in terms of the
volume participants. The cost there that he and I both agree on is
much less than the existing program in Coconut Grove Care. It is not
our intent, because it's a separate type of program, one is designed
to address the program or the participants in Overtown which have
a unique set of circumstances. The one here is different because it
deals city-wide. What we are suggesting to Commissioner Plummer and
the members of this Commission that we grant the money request of
Coconut Grove Cares, but that they come under direct supervision of
the Parks Department so that this administration can perform its
fiduciary responsibilities as it relates to the expenditure of funds.
Ms. Virrick: Mr. Mayor, may I say something?
Mayor Ferre: Ms. Virrick, yes, Ma'am. Go ahead Ms. Virrick.
Ms. Virrick: We are the only boxing gym that gives twice a month
boxing matches. The boxers that were trained at the other centers are
sent to us. They do not have that facility. They come from all the
centers two Wednesday nights a month and we are the only ones that
have that many matches. The other centers may have one or two a year,
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that's all. We are there twice a month. The boxers from the other
centers get their work in the ring at our gym. Our equipment is
wearing out. We have a great many expenses. We have the trophies for
the young men that win and the Wednesday night matches. We have a great
many expenses that the other centers do not have.
Mayor Ferre: Elizabeth, how long have you known me?
Ms. Virrick: Well, Mr. Virrick knew you when you were nine years old,
but I didn't know you that soon.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, well let me tell you this. In the fifteen years
that I have been around in public service fourteen years in the City of
Miami Commission I have always looked out for what I thought... for the
best interest of you and Coconut Grove Cares because I know that you
serve this community. Now, it is my opinion that you and Coconut
Grove Cares will do a lot better by being a part of the administration's
program than by continually butting heads and hitting that brick wall
which is called the "City of Miami Administration". Now, I think...
if it doesn't work out you know, you always have access to this
Commission. Not only to me, there isn't a person on this Commission
that won't recognize you and help you as much as we can. I would like
to recommend that you give it a try.
Ms. Virrick: I don't know what you are suggesting.
Mayor Ferre: What we are suggesting is that this whole program be
under the supervision of the Mr. Carl Kern. That's what the Manager
is saying. In other words, that you let the City of Miami help you.
You need help. Coconut Grove Cares needs help and money. What the
Manager is saying is let us help you, but we cannot just give you
thirty-five hundred dollars every months and then have you come back
here the next months and the next months and the next month and even
though I fully believe that you are correct and that you are
instituting a new accounting procedure, you know we are now at the
end of the month. I remember six months ago, a year ago that Miller
Dawkins was asking you to do that. I'm glad you are doing it now,
but I think that you will feel better and this Commission will feel
better and the administration will feel better if you have big
brother over here looking over your shoulder a little.
Ms. Virrick: Well, now, wait a minute. I will have to know what
these conditions are before I can say yes.
Mayor Ferre: The conditions are very simple.
Ms. Virrick: And if it involves the agency the Board will have to
make a decision on it, not only I.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, Ma'am.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I suggest and it's very obvious that
Ms. Virrick was not coming here to get the rug swept out from underneath
of her which obviously she is indicating that is possibly going to be
done. In the interest of fairness regardless of my other comments
I think it is only fair that we have Coconut Grove Cares and their
people involved sit down with the Manager and with Mr. Kern and if
it takes one more month of funding to get this thing done right just
may be Elizabeth and her people will think that it's a good idea. I
had no idea that... Mr. Mayor, I would move at this time that we
grant an additional month of funding, invite the Coconut Grove Cares
people as it relates to boxing to sit and meet with Mr. Kern and with
the Manager and come back to us in January with a recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, now, next month when it comes back Mr. Manager,
please dont' wear a bow tie. Now we are ready to vote on it right?
Alright, Ms. Virrick, you have got one more month please sit down with
Mr. Carl Kern and with the Manager, talk to your board, you know what
the Manager is recommending and we will discuss it again next month.
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Mr. Dawkins: But to Ms. Virrick, we are definitely in favor of your
program. We also know that your program is meeting a preventive need
and that is that you provide wholesome recreation and training for
youngsters that might go into crime or something else, but also as
you told me yourself, you do not have the manpower with which to do
the job. So, I'm hoping that when you sit down with the... not you,
when Coconut Grove Cares sits down with the Manager this will be -
pointed out that you do not have the manpower to get the job done and
that when you come back with us between us, the City of Miami and Coconut _
Grove, we will have a program that will meet the needs of the youngsters
we are trying to serve.
Mr. Plummer: I hope also that the Manager will keep in mind a part of
history which I was involved in in 1970 when then Mayor Dave Kennedy
and asked me to join with Ms. Virrick and Coconut Grove Cares to start
a boxing program which this City couldn't afford and it was through her
auspices of that Coconut Grove Cares that in fact started this program,
went out and got private funding for this program and that the program
that exist today is only through the thanks of these people when the —
City of Miami couldn't afford it. So, I think we got to keep a little
bit of history in mind and we cannot treat these people as an absolute
stranger when they were the ones who came forward and helped this City
originate the program.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Alright, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83-1134
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE ON MONTH OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING
TO COCONUT GROVE CARES, INC. SO THAT MRS. VIRRICK MAY HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER
AND MR. CARL KERN; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO COME BACK IN JANUARY WITH A FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
FURTHER DISCUSSION:
Mayor Ferre: Yes, Ms. Hill, you want to say something?
Ms. Mary Hill: Yes. I have known Mrs. Elizabeth Virrick. I have been
know her... as a matter of fact I was there in EOPI when she came in
and EOPI. I am aware of Mrs. Virrick. She knows me. I'm Mary Hill.
You remember. She has done a marvelous job in helping the, you know,
EOPI during the time. Now, what I want to say about what I see here,
what is going on, eventually the program is supposed to be corrected
by law and moved out in these areas and we are not going to overlook
someone who has done a marvelous job, but what I'm asking for the
programs to be carried out right, because what I heard here and what
I know about what she is doing, even day care and the like. I know
it is part of what is supposed to be done. But first of all I see
Mr. Gary is evading the issue. He is evading the issue. Mr. Gary
is not taking first priority first and that's seeing that the private sector
get the right information, pass it to us so we can get on and help
these people that's in need and help this community according to the
law.
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26. DISCUSSION OF LAVENTHAL & HORWATH REPORT ON "EVALUATION OF MARKET
SUPPORT AND OPERATING POTENTIALS FOR THE DADE COUNTY CONVENTION
CENTER COMPLEMENT" TO BE DISCUSSED IN JANUARY.
Mayor Ferre: We have got a two hour deadline, so we must move along.
We are now on Item 4, which is Laventhal and Horwarth Report on the
evaluation of market support and operating potentials for the Dade
County Convention Center Complement. Are the people here from
Laventhal and Horwath. Mr. Horrow, are you making the report.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE).
Mayor Ferre: I can't hear you and neither can the public.
Mr. Rick Horrow: No, sir, I was under the understanding that it was
taken off today. They presented their report to the Sport Authority
which you have all been invited to attend.
Mayor Ferre: I understand. Alright, Mr. Manager, is there anything
else you want to add to that?
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not true.
Mr. Gary: No.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not true at all. I told those people they
better damn well get over here and make their report and I was told
by the Committee of Metro that they would.
Mayor Ferre: Please inform them that we expect them here in the
January meeting to make... I don't think we will have time on the 15th.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Horrow, how much the City kick into that study?
Mr. Horrow: Mr. Odio,...
Mr. Plummer: How much?
(BACKGROUND COMMENT INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Plummer: The City kicked in a hundred thousand dollars for that
study, right?
Mayor Ferre: No, no, it wasn't that much.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, we did because we were suppose...
Mayor Ferre: A hundred thousand?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Odio: ... to receive from the TDC two hundred fifty thousand
dollars for the Convention Bureau.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mr. Odio: And they deducted a hundred thousand from those monies to
do this feasibility...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, I think for a hundred thousand dollars of our
money the least they could do is appear here and give us a report.
Mayor Ferre: We expect them here in January.
Mr. Gary: But just for the record in all due respect to Laventhal
and Horwath, they showed up for two meetings. We were unable to hear
them because of the time constraints. So, we will have them come back
at the next meeting.
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Mayor Ferre: I understand.
27. PERSONAL APPEARANCE AND DISCUSSION OF DA-BAR PEDICAB SERVICE, INC.
TO BE DISCUSSED JANUARY 12.
Mayor Ferre: We are on Item 5, representatives of the DA-BAR Pedicab
Services, Inc. Sir, your name and address for the record. You have
got five minutes. Is there anybody in the 3:00 o'clock presentations
need more than five minutes?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, there is no prohibition from ---and we support
it--- this gentlemen proceeding with his operation. We don't need
an ordinance. If you recall the ---or permit ---cab responsibility was
turned over to Dade County. It's my indication that he has been to
Dade County and he has gotten that permit and there is no legislative
authority this City Commission has to give him permission to do what
he plans to do.
Mayor Ferre: Let him speak for himself. Now, what is it you want
the City of Miami to do with regards to the Pedicabs?
Mr. David Gates: Ok. Sir, my name is David Gates and I live in
Kendall, Miami here. Basically, what I want the City of Miami
Commissioners to do is to... well, grant me approval to run my business...
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Gates: Well, to grant me approval to run the business in the
Downtown 14iami area... the Pedicab business in the Downtown Miami area
and in Coconut Grove and I talked with Mr. Alvarez the other day and
I noticed that they gave me a six month trial period. Ok and I would
like for that six month trial period to begin on the first of January
through June.
Mayor Ferre: But what does the City have to do with all of this? The
Manager has just said that this has all been licensed under Metro.
What are you doing here?
Mr. Gates: Well, basically, what I'm looking for from the Commission
after the six month period to see that, you know, to show them that
I have got a successful operation is to be granted a franchise.
Mayor Ferre: The City can't do that.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Sure we can.
Mayor Ferre: Huh?
Mr. Plummer: Sure we can.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, Mr. Manager. Mr. Clark.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I would suggest that there is something that we
need to do and I would suggest that we bring this back December 15th.
I would like to withdraw this item.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me just interject. Is this the one that's
the bicycle form or the ricksha form?
Mr. Gates: Bicycle.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Let me tell you my only concern Mr. Mayor. My
only concern is that of what I screamed about loud and long this
morning and that is the Downtown traffic. This vehicle is my concern
is to further complicate the problem.
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Mayor Ferre: It solves the problem, no more cars.
Mr. Plummer: Well, ok, you want to take away all the cars and put
just these Downtown the merchants might have something to say about
it, but my concern is further tying up the streets and I will agree
that we put it off and take it up next month, but that means...
Mayor Ferre: Then we can move along. Yes, sir you want to...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, we are here on behalf of the ricksha
group and we had understood that the gentleman was seeking an exclusive
to operate in the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Sure, he is.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We have previously gone through the process of
being licensed in Occupational Licenses.
Mayor Ferre: Licensed by the City or the County?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: By the City, been operating both in Coconut
Grove and the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's only an occupational license to do business.
You don't have any kind of a...
Mr. Gary: Hey, all you need is a occupational license brother, which
you would get.
Mr. Gates: Right, but see that's what I'm saying. I could have gotten
the occupational license, but....
Mayor Ferre: Alright, this matter will be continued and Mr. Manager,
you bring it back in January and you have an opportunity to talk to
the Manager.
Mr. Plummer: Well, both of them will have the opportunity to talk to
the Manager.
Mayor Ferre: He doesn't need to. He is all set.
Mr. Plummer: Well, sure he does. He needs to talk about when you
start talking about exclusivity.
Mayor Ferre: You better talk to the Manager, too.
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28. DISCUSSION AND PERSONAL APPEARANCES OF MEMBERS OF THE EDISON
_ CENTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO BE DISCUSSED IN MORE
DETAIL JANUARY 12, 1984.
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Mayor Ferre: We are now on Item #6. This is representatives of the
Edison Center Economic Development Committee. Item #6, Akbar. Do
you need more than five minutes?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We only need five minutes, but it's important
that you hear the three of us.
Mayor Ferre: That's fine, go right ahead.
Mr. Akbar Muhammed: Honorable Mayor and Commissioners, Manager, we
of the Edison Center Economic Developement Committee, a Committee, a
community based committee that was founded by one of our Commissioners,
Miller Dawkins and given the authority to come up with some
recommendations to make Edison Center a more economic, prosperous
area for the City of Miami. We have worked for about one year with
staff, with labor, with the businessmen, the Merchants, the Chambers
to come up with a feasible recommendation that all of us can live with.
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You have that before you or you should have had that before you. At
this time as the one who chaired this meeting I would just like to
thank the Commission for lending us the support of the Planning
Department, Zoning Department, Park and Recreation, Off -Street Parking
and all of the other departments that worked with this Committee to
bring about this resolution. We would like that you accept this
and accept these recommendations so that we can begin to turn around
an area that needs some direction and support from the City of Miami.
Thank you.
Mr. Ron Harvey: Honorable Mayor, City Commissioners, the Edison
Center Business District developed this package for the Black
community which is basically in the Liberty City Area. Like the
gentleman before me spoke, we spent a lot of time and effort along
with employees from the City of Miami and the County and a cross
reference of individuals that you will see in the package if you have
that. We are here today to get the concept of this program accepted
by yourselves. This is not a comprehensive package of the things that
we feel that are all necessary, but this is a brief outline and it
pertains to some priority such as Off -Street Parking and other things
that's definitedly needed in the Edison Center District of Liberty
City. So, we are here today to ask you to accept this in concept.
There are certain items in here that do require some funding that
we will get with the City Manager on, but we want you to adopt the
concept of the whole Edison Center Business District strategy. I'm
Ron Harvey, Executive Vice -President, Miami -Dade Chamber of Commerce.
Mr. Willie Calhoun: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my name is Willie
Calhoun. I'm a local businessman in the Edison Center area and each
time a group of people begin to work there is always some outstanding.
There is always some people that take that extra yard in assisting
help and I would like to take the time and ask that you would recognize
with us some of your staff, Ms. Maranda Albury in Economic Development,
Mr. Jose Casanova in Planning and Ms. Linda Kelly in Planning. These
people did a little bit extra in assisting us in developing and
packaging this list of strategies that you have before us and we would
like to thank them before you for doing an exceptional job for us.
Thank you, very much.
Mr. Samuel Mason: Commissioners, I'm Samuel Mason, the Executive
Director of Martin Luther King Economic Development Corporation. We
want to thank the Commission for their support and we would like for
you to look at our proposal very carefully. We are not asking for a
hand out, we are asking for a hand. We are doing some serious work
in our area and we want to make the Liberty City area a part of the
City of Miami. So, with your cooperation and with our struggle, I
think we can make it together. Thank you very kindly.
Mr. Plummer: Can I ask where this report is that you have put forward?
I haven't seen it.
Mayor Ferre: I haven't seen it either. Do you have a copy of it?
Mr. Plummer: Who has got the report? Are they hard to come by or
are they choice classic design or... This is all I have. So, I really
don't...
Mr. Mason: I'm sorry. Commissioners it was our impression that you
had copies ahead of time. I didn't know that you didn't have this
previously.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, there is no way that you can expect me to
vote on this in principle without knowing what it is and I have just,
as you have seen, received it.
Mr. Mason: Yes, sir. I agree with that and I'm sorry. I was informed
that you already had copies. Can we get another date to come back at
which time...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, we will see you in January, but in the meantime
Mr. Manager, just for the record, why don't you react to the report
if you want to. Or do you want to wait until January?
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Mr. Gary: In terms of a more constructive report I--- comments I would
like to wait until January. But I think basically, what we are trying
to do is to recognize that Edison Center is the nucleolus in terms of
a businesss district for the Liberty City area and that we think that
some assistance should be given in terms of assisting the businessmen
in those areas to make sure that it becomes a viable business district
just as we have on Southwest Bth Street and other parts of the community.
I think it would be more appropriate for us to come up with our final
recommendation in terms of a priority schedule for implementing some
of the recommendations that you have in this proposal and in January
we will be willing to do that. We...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gary, I'm a little ticked off here.
Mr. Gary: I beg your pardon.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm a little ticked off. Two months ago or at least a
month ago I asked staff to distribute this instrument to the
Commissioners, so that when these gentlemen come down here to present
this that everybody would be knowledgeable of it. Now, what the hell
happened?
Mr. Plummer: When was it delivered to the administration?
Mr. Dawkins: Ask the administration? They had it. It didn't have
to be delivered to them, they had it. They are the ones who compiled
it. They are the ones who made it.
Mr. Gary: I take full responsibility for the delay Commissioner
Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, I'm not going to hear that. Tell me what
the hell happened.
Mr. Plummer: Get out the whip.
Mr. Gary: Administrative bottleneck on my part.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Rosencrantz, how much is ten percent less than a
hundred six thousand dollars?
Mr. Dawkins: No, you need to get Manohar on that. Manohar is the man
who can figure out the salary. No, it would be better if you figure
out nothing from a hundred six percent and get rid of him. Wouldn't
that be better? Get a new Manager.
Mr. Plummer: Not yet.
Mr. Dawkins: Not yet.
Mr. Gary: Probably for both of us.
Mr. Plummer: Let's stick with this one until at least the end of the
year.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, alright, Mr. Gary, are you saying that at the next
meeting we will be able to discuss this intelligently and come up with
whatever we are going to do?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir, the first regular City Commission meeting in
January. Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Is that compatible to the group from the area?
(BACKGROUND COMMEND OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gary, might I suggest, sir, in just thumbing quickly
through this report that I have here, that you make known to all of the
parties, especially the ones that are named in here as a source of
funding, that they become aware of what this document contains. For
example, if you want to see Roger Carlton have a seizure let him know
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that he is indebted in this report to a great deal of money to this
organization.
Mr. Dawkins: He has already committed himself Mr...
Mr. Gary: He has been a part of this.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. But I'm just saying so that when we come back and
discuss it, that they are aware.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Ms. Mary Hill: May I say something?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Ms. Hill: Now, you know, this is about time for something to stop
and these things to go right. First of all, I am Mary Hill. I am
federal, I'm not local, but I do have a local effect and I am the
private sector and I'm being totally disrespected and the programs are
being totally disrespected. It's about high time for us to get these
things off the ground according to law. Now, I see you, Mr. Miller
Dawkins and I see Mr. Gary, the City Manager, I see that you are not
doing what you are supposed to be doing. Now, first of all, I would
like to ask a question before I go a little bit further. I want to
know from you where are these fundings that you are going to give
this group to, where is it coming from?
Mr. Dawkins: Where is what honey?
Mr. Hill: The funding.
Mr. Dawkins: Most of these programs, Ms. Hill, do not require additional
funding. The majority...
Ms. Hill: Yes, I meant where did it come from?
Mr. Dawkins: Wait now, you asked me let me tell you. Ok, now.
Ms. Hill: Yes, go ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: If you are going to tell me, I will shut up and listen to
you. Ok.
Ms. Hill: Well, it's time for somebody to step in and make you all
shut up, because right down the line you all have been wasting money,
abusing money and putting it in places and it's not reaching the
poor according to law.
Mr. Dawkins: I have no problems with that. You are dead right and I
accept that as a fact. Ok.
Ms. Hill: Alright, now you may continue. You may continue.
Mr. Dawkins: The fact is the majority of the programs that are
recommended by this group do not require additional funding. They
can be done with the staff and the funding that is already in place.
Ms. Hill: What I asked you, sir, you did not answer. I said where
does those funds or where did it come from?
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. The funds that we plan to do this with are already
operational general funds.
Ms. Hill: From where? You either have...
Mr. Dawkins: From my tax dollar and your tax dollar if you live in
the City of Miami.
Ms. Hill: Oh, that's where it comes from.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, Ma'am.
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Ms. Hill: In other words, the same way I had to do at the federal
level, you are bloating your budget to maintain a conflict of
interest, because you cannot have two programs serving the same area
when you all have a legislature number to accommodate some of this
you are doing.
Mr. Mason: We have accepted the January meeting and we don't want to
make a circus of this act.
Mr. Gary: Thank you very much.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you very much. Move the agenda Mr. Mayor, move the —
agenda.
Ms. Hill: Sir, I don't know your name sir, but as you know, I'm
federal and I have control over those funds and sir,... wait sir, this...
Mr. Dawkins: Ms. Hill, but the issue...
Ms. Hill: You have been out talking everyone and please let me talk.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but the issue that you are discussing the gentleman
just said that they agree with.
Ms. Hill: They agree with what I'm discussing?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, Ma'am.
Ms. Hill: Well, if he is in agreement with what I'm discussing and
if he is in agreement and finding out that you are trying to place
a conflict of interest and this is why down the line when you see the
different ones out there getting indicted they are falling in place
because of some of the same malarky that you all are pulling right
now. And I want it straighten up today and I do have authority to
do just that.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Ms. Hill.
Mr. Dawkins: Alright, Ma'am.
29. RATIFY PRIOR DECISION TO MATCH ON AN EQUAL BASIS FUNDING D.D.A.
AND OFF-STREET PARKING AUTHORITY, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION,
FLAGLER STREET MANAGEMENT STUDY AUTHORIZING MANAGER TO ALLOCATE
$15,000.
Mayor Ferre: we now will hear from Mr. Mike Bazylaskv of the Downtown
Miami Business Association. Mr. Gort.
Mr. Wilfredo Gort: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, my name is Wilfredo
Gort. I'm with the... I reside at 2360 Northwest 14th Avenue and I'm
here representing the Downtown Miami Business Association. The
reason you have been hearing a lot about Downtown. We have a lot of
events that are going to be taking place during the month of December
that's going to benefit us, but at the same time we do have a lot of
problems in Downtown Miami. And one of the major problems that we
have, we have all kinds of different agencies from the County , from
the State and from the City working in the area. You have your
traffic, one jurisdiction under the County and the other one the City
of Miami and there is a need for Downtown, since we don't have any
tourist money anymore to attract the local community back into the
Downtown. The only way we are going to do that is we compete with the
shopping center and the only way we can compete with the shopping
center is if we run this like a shopping center. To do this we have
got all kinds of studies that have been sent to you, our retail study
and the recommendations that were made of things that should be done.
One of the basic things that we need right now is what is called "The
Flagler Street Management Study", which is the study that needs... that
was recommended about a year ago. We have received funding from two
different agencies that are willing to help out, D.D.A. and the Off -Street
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Parking of the City of Miami, but we need some extra funding from the
City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: We already committed money to that.
Mr. Gort: Not from the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Now, wait a minute. Howard, we have committed money to
this thing, this Flager Street Study. I remember that the way it was
done was the D.D.A. put up so much, the City put up so much and the
association put up so much.
Mr. Gort: The Off -Street Parking has a matching part...
Mayor Ferre: What?
Mr. Gort: Off -Street Parking, City of Miami Off -Street Parking is
going to match, D.D.A. is going to match...
Mayor Ferre: So, what's the problem?
Mr. Gort: We need some funding from the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: We have already done that.
Mr. Gort: We have not received it from the City.
Mayor Ferre: Am I wrong in that?
Mr. Plummer: How much are you talking about?
Mr. Gort: Fifteen.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute. Howard, am I wrong? I remember...
may be I'm confusing this with the D.D.A., but we have approved...
Mr. Gary: We just gave them a hundred thousand dollars and the hundred
thousand if I recall was to finance some landscaping improvements and...
Mayor Ferre: No, no, this is the management study to see how we can
make Flagler Street into a big shopping mall and some big experts
coming to help them from...
Mr. Gary: Dena is telling me she thinks we gave fifteen thousand to
the D.D.A. for this particular purpose.
Mayor Ferre: I think so.
Mr. Gary: We have to check.
Mayor Ferre: But I will tell you what just in case...
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion ratifying the action.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion by Commissioner Plummer, that ratifies
in case it has not been done, that the City of Miami will give on an
equal match fund provision up to--- what is it? Fifteen thousand?
Mr. Gary: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: That's the first request.
Mayor Ferre: Fifteen thousand for this... What's it called again, Willie?
Management...
Mr. Gort: It's the Flagler Street Management Study, but actually it's
called the "Flagler Street Management Study", but it applies to all
of the Downtown.
Mayor Ferre: Study. Ok. It's been moved and seconded, further discussion,
call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1136
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION RATIFYING ITS PRIOR DECISION
TO MATCH ON AN EQUAL BASIS FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE DOWNTOWN
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THE OFF-STREET PARKING AUTHORITY
TO THE DOWNTOWN MIAMI BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN CONNECTION WITH
THE "FLAGLER STREET MANAGEMENT STUDY": FURTHER DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000
IN CONNECTION THEREWITH.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: I think it's been done, but if it hasn't there is your
authority to proceed.
Mr. Gort: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And the second request and I will be
very quick about it. We are trying to do everything that is possible
to attract the local marketing to the Downtown Miami. We have put
together a campaign for next year which is using the barter system.
Unfortunately, business is not as good so we have to use a system in
order to advertise and we are going to come out with this button, once
again, that I love Downtown Miami and we are respectfully requesting
of the City of Miami... there is a great need for the City to promote
and to do something in Downtown because of the perception that's still
there that Downtown is a place they cannot come and although, we are
going to do this... all this advertising we do need the City of Miami
to do something very similar to what New York City did about two years
ago when it was in bankruptcy and it came back and right now that has
changed the attitude in everybody of New York City. There is a great
need for the City to do that and that's what we are requesting.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, Mike.
Mr. Ferre: I didn't understand what you requested.
Mr. Plummer: He didn't come out. Mike, what was the thing you talked
to about about the second grant?
Mr. Mike Bazylasky: Well, the second thing is...
Mr. Plummer: Where is Tony Alonso?
Mr. Bazylasky: No, he couldn't make it. The thing is we have these
buttons that we give you... each one of you that we did sometime ago.
We have a public enemy that's called "Perception".
Mayor Ferre: Perception.
Mr. Bazylasky: Perception. People don't know what's happening
Downtown. We have some funds we have used. We still have some funds,
but we need badly some matching funds to make a big campaign so the
people know what's happening Downtown. Through the generosity of the
Off -Street Parking Authority we are subsidizing the parking. We are
subsidizing the parking, but the people in this town don't know that
we have free parking'in Downtown. That's the reason why we need the
extra money...
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Mr. Plummer: Mike, would you get together with Willie and Tony Alonso
and make a proposal at the next meeting?
Mr. Bazylasky: We will do, but there is a problem that we have. We
have the Christmas, Christmas very close and this is the perfect time
to revitalize Downtown. That's why we thought that today...
Mayor Ferre: Mike, I want to help you, but I still do not understand
what you want. What do you want? You want us to pay you for more
buttons?
Mr. Dawkins: What do you want from this Commission?
Mr. Bazylasky: Well, we would like to print a hundred thousand of
this and give it away to the people. We would like to promote that
we have free parking in Downtown which the people don't know.
Mayor Ferre: Listen, instead of saying I love Downtown Miami which
I think doesn't mean anything. That's... you know, like I love New
York. That was great for New York, but from us it doesn't mean anything.
Why don't you put free parking Downtown Miami?
Mr. Bazylasky: We could do that too.
Mayor Ferre: I mean, that's... I think that means more than I love
Downtown Miami.
Mr. Bazylasky: I want to explain that there is two...
Mr. Plummer: Where is the free parking?
Mr. Gary: I don't know where it is either.
Mr. Plummer: Where the hell is the free parking Downtown?
Mayor Ferre: Explain that.
Mr. Fannotto: That's what I would like to know where it's at.
Mr. Bazylasky: The free parking is in the municipal parking on the
weekends here. Here we have it.
Mayor Ferre: All of the sudden Ernie woke up, he was sleeping back
there.
Mr. Fannotto: No, I want to know where is the free parking. I haven't
had the occasion for years and they are the ones that's delinquent in
not coming up with it.
Mr. Plummer: Ernie this is only free parking for people that spend
money.
Mayor Ferre: Ernie has been looking for that free parking for the last
twenty years.
Mr. Fannotto: I'm talking about free parking for merchants, where is
it at?
Mr. Plummer: Parking Garage #1, #2, #3 and #4.
Mr. Fannotto: Where are they located?
Mr. Plummer: That's Saturday night from 3:30 in the morning until 5:30.
Mr. Bazylasky: Mr. Mayor, I just want to point out one thing when
you mentioned New York. I was in New York two months ago and I saw
the...
Mr. Fannotto: Is that when the merchants are going to open up the
business 3:30 in the afternoon as long as you fellows are the head of
the Downtown parking.
Mr. Bazylasky: New York has... Well, I just said what we want. We
want to print this and we want to make a very intensive campaign.
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Mr. Dawkins: Print this for what, "X" dollars, two dollars, four
dollars, six dollars, eight dollars? What do you want?
Mr. Bazylasky: Well, if we can get the twenty thousand dollars for the...
Mr. Dawkins: How much?
Mr. Bazylasky: Twenty thousand dollars.
Mr. Dawkins: Damn, how many are you going to print?
Mr. Bazylasky: I beg your pardon?
Mr. Dawkins: How many do you plan to print?
Mr. Bazylasky: No, not only for that...
Mr. Plummer: Look, Mike, go and put together a proposal, come back
before this Commission if you can do it and bring it to the Manager
and if you can put a proposal together that this Commission thinks
is good for Downtown we will vote for it.
Mr. Bazylasky: Ok. Fair enough.
Mr. Plummer: But you got to... you know, you got to come here with a...
Mayor Ferre: You have got until the 15th. That's next Thursday.
Mr. Bazylasky: Ok, we will have it next Thursday.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, you got to have it in his hands in the next two
days.
Mr. Bazylasky: You will have it before Monday.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, anything else Mr. Gort?
Mr. Gort: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you.
30. STIPULATING THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD
WHICH HAS PRESENTLY HAVE A SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND ONE
ALTERNATE, THE NUMBER OF ALTERNATE MEMBERSHIP BE INCREASE TO
TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS FOR EACH BOARD.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, let's take up 8 and then we will take up 80.
Alright, Ernie, your turn. You got all five minutes.
Mr. Ernie Fannotto: Ernie Fannotto is my name and I'm President of the
Taxpayers League of Miami and Dade County. I'm here today to try to
increase efficiency and the caliber of people on the Planning and Zoning
Board. There has been a lot of criticism on these boards the last few
years and I think there is only one way to do it, train people to get
experience. There is no substitute for experience and I'm going to
recommend that you hire two new members as alternates only and get that
experience for a year or two and two on the Planning Board and get
that experience for a year or two, then when there is openings move
them up with experience. And I think the public... that is one of the
most important... they are two of the most important boards in this
County, the Planning and Zoning, involves millions of millions of dollars
of the taypayers money and involves millions and millions of dollars of
the proper zoning and planning, but we put people on there who are
incompetent, who can't make good decision and waste businessmen and
attornies time right in here and they vote and half of them, I don't
think they know what they are doing.
Mr. Carollo: Ernie, who are you talking about?
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Mr. Fannotto: I'm talking about the Planning and Zoning Board members.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, but who on those boards is incompetent and can't
make decisions? —
Mr. Fannotto: I said that some of you members on your Zoning and
Planning Boards are inexperience and don't make the right decision
when the projects come up before them.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Come on this is serious. Let's go Ernie. Go ahead.
Mr. Fannotto: Well, you know, it tickles me that you folk are not
interested in putting...
Mayor Ferre: No,...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, hold it now. See don't put words in our mouth
now.
Mayor Ferre: You have one vote on this Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: The only thing we are saying...
Mr. Fannotto: Alright, the issue is a clear cut issue, nobody goes
on that board until they have had actual experience of hearing at
least one or two years of experience on the Planning and Zoning Board
and they should be paid so they will be there at every meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok and the only thing I would like to add to that Ernie
is I don't think that we the City Commission can sit here and wait for
two individuals to acquire that expertise. I would rather see that
we have training sessions for your two... the two individuals who are
proposed by you and also for the present board...
Mr. Plummer: That's why they have seminars.
Mr. Dawkins: ...and then... and have a seminar or something so that
they can attend it and do that.
Mr. Plummer: They already to that.
Mr. Fannotto: I would rather see them have the actual experience in '
the actual meetings.
Mr. Dawkins: I beg your pardon.
Mr. Fannotto: I think that the actual meetings if they are there
every meeting they will acquire that experience. _
Mr. Dawkins: Well, how can they learn from... you get said we got
people on there that don't know what the hell they are doing. How can
people...
Mr. Fannotto: They don't. They are just political appointments.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, how can the people you want to learn, learn from
the people who don't know what they are doing, Ernie?
Mr. Fannotto: What do you mean, they are watching and hearing decisions,
but you are putting people on there just for political connections that
don't know what they are doing at all. Half of them...
Mr. Dawkins: I am?
Mr. Fannotto: I'm not saying you... I'm saying somebody put them on.
Mayor Ferre: I think he has got a much better system. We are going to
put people on with political connections that know what they are doing.
I think there is a big difference.
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Mr. Fannotto: If it's experience it's ok with me. There is no
substitute for experience, but don't put people up there that don't
know as I said a minute ago, some of them think that being on that
Zoning Board is just like telling d horse tiiere is nu fist) in nova Scotia.
I hate to tell you that.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I would like to recommend that you appoint
a committee with Ernie as Chairman that would make a proposal in the
next few months and bring it back to the Commission.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, I would like to appoint Commissioner Carollo and
Commissioner Plummer to that committee. Ernie, you call them together..
Mr. Plummer: I respectfully decline. It's a conflict of some interest,
I'm not sure which.
Mr. Fannotto: Well, gentlemen is all I can say is in concluding, let
me tell you something, you spent close to a million dollars in making
political decisions here and giving a lot of political people money,
but you won't spend money when it's from the business standpoint to
improve the caliber of members on the board. That's all I got to say.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Ernie, we are talking in a serious vein now.
Mr. Fannotto: Well, I'm talking serious, too.
Mayor Ferre: Will you listen for a moment now, I have been listening
to you and I'm going to...
Mr. Fannotto: Yes, I heard Commissioner Carollo, too.
Mayor Ferre: I want you to listen to this now. I think what you are
recommending makes some sense. I don't know whether I agree with
increasing each two. Right now what we have is two alternates. We
have seven members and two alternates?
Mr. Carollo: No, one alternate. Seven members and one alternate.
Mayor Ferre: And one alternate. I...
Mr. Dawkins: One on each board.
Mayor Ferre: It is my opinion that we ought to have two alternates.
I have no problems with that. I think that makes a lot of sense. In
each board we ought to have seven members and two alternates.
Mr. Carollo: I think what he was saying was to have the regular, then
have two other alternates so they can be apprentice. It's just
listening in and learning.
Mayor Ferre: I wouldn't go that far, but I certainly think we ought
to increase the alternates to two alternates, that way we have got
two people that are there learning the process waiting to sit and
the way things happen around here they will have an opportunity to
sit very soon.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but not binding to the fact that someone that goes
on the board has got to be an alternate first.
Mr. Fannotto: Well, I will go on one and then if it's good, if it
works out you can do it with two later.
Mayor Ferre: Of course, not J. L.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's part of the proposal.
Mr. Fannotto: What's that? I didn't hear what Commissioner Plummer said.
Mayor Ferre: No, I think what Plummer is saying is that you cannot
tie this Commission to deciding at a later date as to whether or not
to put somebody on the board that has not been an alternate.
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Mr. Fannotto: Well, if you want to keep them on, you just keep
alternates on until there is opening.
Mayor Ferre: Look, we understand what you want Ernie and part of it
makes sense.
Mr. Fannotto: What I'm trying say is get people with some experience.
You know, you have some attornies here that are very very knowledgeable
in the planning and toning business.
Mayor Ferre: Ernie, to satisfy you let's do it this way. I would like
to turn this matter over... Mr. Manager, I think the appropriate thing
is to turn it over to the Planning and Zoning Board themselves and
have them have at a future joint meeting discuss the subject and come
back with a recommendation. I think they should be the ones to initiate
this discussion rather us. I for one would be willing to vote for an
increase in the alternates from one to two on each one of those boards.
I think that's a step in the right direction. Then we have two people
that are available, so we will always have seven members present. There
are a lot of times when we don't have enough members because the
alternate doesn't show up and there is one or two persons absent. I
think this would be a much better system, but I think it ought to come
from the boards themselves. Any other ideas?
Mr. Plummer: Turn it over to the Committee.
Mayor Ferre: Is that a motion Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, is there a second? Dawkins seconds.
Alright, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1137
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION STIPULATING THAT IN EACH
OF (a) THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, AND (b) THE ZONING
BOARD, WHICH PRESENTLY HAVE SEVEN (7) REGULAR MEMBERS AND
ONE (1) ALTERNATE, THE NUMBER OF ALTERNATE MEMBERS SHOULD
BE INCREASED TO TWO (2) ALTERNATE MEMBERS PER BOARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 80 HAD ALREADY BEEN PASSED AT A
PREVIOUS MEETING.
31. GRANT REQUEST BY CHANNEL 23 TO CLOSE STREETS IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI
FEBRUARY 25 AND 26 IN CONNECTION WITH THE "GRAND PRIX RACE".
Mayor Ferre: Alright, we are now on Item #9 which is the representative
of Channel 23 requesting the authorization to close the streets in
Downtown Miami February 25th and 26th.
Mr. Carollo: Bob, this isn't a zoning matter is it?
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Mr. Robert Traurig: I show up sometimes on regular days.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, this is related to the Grand Prix Race.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, it is.
Mr. Gary: We are in support of it and I would suggest to the City
Commission approve it in principle and allow the Police Department
to work with Channel 23 to accomplish the end result.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, so you can earn a proper fee counselor, why
don't you tell us your name and address for the record before we here
the motion.
Mr. Traurig: I'm doing this out of my desire to get the City the
adequate promotion internationally that this deserves. My name is
Robert H. Traurig. I'm an attorney with offices at 1401 Brickell
Avenue and I actually represent the SIN Television Network which is
delighted to participate in the Grand Prix activities by televising
internationally and nationally all of the events and having special
coverage of the City so that all of the Countries of Central and
South American and South Africa and Europe and Australia and Japan and
Hong Kong and people throughout the world. A potential viewership of
four hundred million people will have the opportunity to see Miami in
it's glory. We need the cooperation of the City. We are delighted
that the Manager has offered that cooperation.
Mr. Gary: I may have second thoughts. You said South Africa?
Mr. Traurig: Yes, as soon as I said it I think we are going to white
out South Africa.
Mr. Carollo: You better specific where in South Africa.
Mr. Gary: No, seriously, I don't have any problem with that.
Mr. Traurig: Well, it's only in the airwave, but at any rate we are
delighted with the opportunity to participate. We will be delighted
also to work with the Manager and the Police Department in working
on the street system during this period that we would like to close
it down. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, thank you, sir. Is there a motion?
Mr. Carollo: There is a motion Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Could you refer it to me.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, J. L.?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Ferre: Alright, after we vote on this I will appoint Commissioner
Plummer as a committee of one to make sure that this is properly done
and enforce all these issues with total authority over the City Manager
and everybody else involved and make sure that all these street are
properly closed and that these cars run properly and that it doesn't
rain on that day and if there are any problems we will have you before
this Commission to give us total explanations.
Mr. Plummer: Do divert all of the heat by the merchants and people
to the Miami's Office.
Mr. Gary: Under discussion Mr. Mayor, in view of that resolution I
would probably recommend that the appointee be Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Traurig: We are happy to have anyone appointed. In view of the
fact Commissioner Plummer has volunteered.
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Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 83- 1138
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST MADE BY CHANNEL 23 TO CLOSE
STREETS IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI ON FEBRUARY 25 AI;D 26, 1984
IN CONNECTION WITH THE "GRAND PRIX" RACE, AS MORE FULLY
DISCUSSED BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION ON THIS DAME DATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Mayor, may I just say that we have representatives
here from Southern Bell, from Bell South who have wanted the opportunity
to address you on the urgency of an earlier closing. We are going to
work with the Manager's Office and Commissioners appointed by you
to work this out, but we want you to know in advance that we have to
close a little bit earlier than we did last year, because the telephone
company had very serious problems in during all their interconnection
work in order to develop the network that we have talked about.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Bob, so there will be no problem later. Ok.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me for a moment. Is Juan Calone here? Is Mr.
Juan Calone here? Is there anybody here from Wynwood waiting for rose
Mendez? Alright.
Mr. Plummer: Let's put it on the record exactly what it is so that we
are not pulling anything over anybody's eyes. Mr. Mayor, I was not here
for the first couple of comments if I duplicate what Bob said I apologize.
What this will in fact bring about Mr. Mayor, is the closing of some of
the streets earlier than the 7:00 o'clock as before. It will leave
open the Northeast 1st Street and Southeast lst Street. It will close
the intersections of Flagler, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th about noon
on Friday. That is so that they can lay these cables in the pedestrian
walkway. I don't think it is an unreasonable request especially when
you figure that this year the City of Miami free of charge is going to
be getting in excess of seven hours of live world wide publicity and
if they do anything this year like they did last year, I want to tell
the people who saw that bilingual program, that they were super to the
City of Miami.
Mr. Dawkins: That's the Miss U.S.A. Pageant?
Mr. Plummer: No, that's... Miss U.S.A., no.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Vice -Mayor Dawkins, can I include this as a part of my
traffic congestion study when I report back to you?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: And you might want to substitute those new -richshasws and........
Mr. Plummer: I got a solution Mr. Mayor to the traffic problem Downtown
and that is that we put a policeman's uniform on Mr. Gary and he cannot
return or leave the street until everything is corrected to my satisfaction.
It will get done in a hurry.
Mayor Ferre: Have we called the roll on this.
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32. WAIVE FORMAL COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS, AS AN EMERGENCY PROCEDURE.,
THE DEMOLITIONS SERVICES PERFORMED AT THE TRINITY METHODIST
CHURCH FROM TREE MASTERS, INC.
Mayor Ferre: We will take up Item #10 which ratifies and conforms by
a four fifths affirmative vote the emergency procurement of the
demolition services at Trinity Methodist Church from Tree Masters at
a total cost of five thousand five hundred twenty. Is there a motion
to Item 10?
Mr. Perez: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Perez, is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Dawkins, further discussion, call the roll
on 10.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Perez, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1139
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING THE FINDING OF THE CITY
MANAGER, BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN 4/5ths OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THAT FORMAL COMPETITIVE
SEALED BIDS BE WAIVED AND THAT THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT
OF DEMOLITION SERVICES AT TRINITY METHODIST CHURCH FROM
TREE MASTERS, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $5,520.00 BE APPROVED:
ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 5th YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file
in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
33. SECOND READING ORDINANCE - INCREASE APPROPRIATION MIAMI SPRINGS
GOLF COURSE FOR PURPOSE OF ALLOCATOIN $30,000 FOR THE LEASING
OF 65 ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS, ETC.
Mayor Ferre: Take up Item 11.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Dawkins, seconded by Carollo, is there further
discussion on this. Alright, read the ordinance. Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 AND 6 OF ORDINANCE NO.
9502, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 23, 1982, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION
ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1983, AS
AMENDED, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE ENTERPRISE
FUND FOR THE MIAMI SPRINGS GOLF COURSE $40,000, BY INCREASING
THE ANTICIPATED REVENUES IN THE SAME AMOUNT FROM THE FY'83
RENTAL REVENUES FROM SAID GOLF CARTS AND PRO SHOP OPERATIONS,
FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOCATING $30,000 FOR THE LEASING OF 65
ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS AND $10,000 FOR THE PURCHASING OF PRO
SHOP INVENTORY: CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of November
16, 1963, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Dawkins, seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9759
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
34. DISCUSSION AND CONTINUE TO JANUARY 19, 1984, PROPOSED SECOND
READING ORDINANCE REGARDING "MINORITY PROCUREMENT PROGRAM".
Mayor Ferre: Alright, take up Item #12, which is repealing Ordinance
9341 as amended and Ordinance 9530 as amended.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: This is a new minority procurement ordinance to be known
and cited as the minority procurement program ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gary, said it's alright for us. Move.
Mayor Ferre: Setting forth a goal of awarding fifty percent out of
the City of Miami's total dollar volume in contracts. Now, Mr. City...
Mr. Dawkins: Didn't you recommend this Mr. Gary? Didn't you recommend
this?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. City Attorney.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Item 12 will become a very controversial item I'm sure
in the court rooms of the State of Florida and may be even nationally.
You are taking a great deal of time in revising and looking over these
figures.
Mr. Plummer: What is this?
Mayor Ferre: The minority procurement. Now,...
Mr. Gary: We made one change to that?
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Mr. Gary: What change did we make?
Mayor Ferre: Is that right?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir, that is correct.
Mayor Ferre: Now, have we in your opinion gotten those potential loop
holes or creases if you will in the law that will render this
unconstitutional?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Mr. Mayor, I have signed the ordinance indicating
my approval of it because I believe after several months... I think
many months of review, research, discussion and so forth that this
ordinance is constitutional and I should add that your City Manager
was extremely influential in addressing the problems that we perceived
might exist and that this ordinance really is largely also due to
his efforts and that of his staff and I think it's an excellent
ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: No, I recognize that. I just want to get on the record
that you as City Attorney have gone over this and I... by that I assume
that you have also gone over the letter of September
7th signed by David Kornreich and Gordon Dean Rogers and you feel that
there is no merit to the position of the South Florida Chapter of the
Associate of General Contractors?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Mr. Mayor, I stand on my view that this ordinance
is legal and constitutional.
Mayor Ferre: Ok. I just want to make sure that on the record that
that's all clear. Mr. Manager, now in your opinion sir, obviously,
is not a legal opinion, but in your opinion, you have studied the
Metropolitan Dade County ordinance, you have studied federal legislation
and you have looked at the different minority procurement programs that
exist in the United States, this is probably one of the boldest it
not the boldest in the Country, you feel safe that this will stand up
under the attacks that are bound to come?
Mr. Gary: Yes, Mr. Mayor and I would like to note that this also
includes and area which we had a concern about and that is to include
commodities in the minority procurement ordinance which was eliminated
before. I would also like that the Commission know that I met with
Attorney General Smith who has informed me that he thinks our efforts
are commendable and he after a meeting that we will have in January
will attempt to get a ruling that will permit our ordinance to supercede
the State law in terms of his interpretation. So, I'm in support of
this one hundred percent.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me only ask one question Mr. Gary. As I read
from the face I have to question whether or not this ordinance is under
our so-called minority definition and I'm only raising the question?
It excludes women which are in our definition minority.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: No, it does not exclude women.
Mr. Plummer: Well, now the definition that is usually used around
City Hall, minorities are Latins, Black and women. Am I correct, Mr.
Gary?
Mr. Gary: That's correct in the City of Miami's Consent Decree.
Mr. Plummer: Alright.
Mayor Ferre: Which this has nothing to do with.
Mr. Plummer: I understand it doesn't, but still the common terminology
used around City Hall is Latin, Black and women.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, I would have to yield to the City Attorney, but
from an administrative point of view, I have ...
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Mr. Gary: well, first of all it doesn't exclude them.
Mr. Plummer: That's not the point.
Mayor Ferre: You won't by that.
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Mayor Ferre: J. L., I would recommend ---you may have a valid point ---
but I would recommend that we not hold up this ordinance, that we
pass this and then you pass a motion that this matter be clarified...
Mr. Plummer: This is second reading, Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that. Pass it on second reading and pass a
motion, instruct the City Attorney to come back with clarification .
Mr. Dawkins: I withdraw my motion.
Mr. Carollo: I withdraw my second.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would prefer this to be deferred over to the
15th.
Mayor Ferre: Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion that this item be deferred, further...
Mr. Plummer (Con't): The reason that I am so indicating, not that there
would be or not be, but I think that under the common terminology used
around this City as to the three minorities, it at least has to be considered
and obviously from the answers I am getting, it has not been. I would like
it at least to be considered, if in fact what you are talking about...
I can tell you what I'm looking at here and so can you. It's basically
going to be that the Latins are going to want 25% and the Blacks are going
to want 25%.
Mr. Dawkins: The women will want 25%.
Mr. Plummer: That's right, and that's 75%.
Mayor Ferre: That kind of leaves you on the short kind of things, doesn't
it?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I move that it be deferred until the next meeting.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved and seconded. Further discussion on item
12? Call the roll.
THEREUPON, THE CITY COMMISSION, ON MOTION DULY
MADE BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER DAWKINS, AGREED TO DEFER THE
HEREINABOVE ISSUE OF THE SECOND READING OF
ORDINANCE DEALING WITH THE NEW MINORITY
PROCUREMENT GOAL OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
35. ALLOCATION OF FUNDS REGARDING SEVERAL CITY FESTIVALS AND/OR EVENTS.
Mayor Ferre: We are back to item 9-a, which is the Festival Advisory
Committee. Now we have before us this memorandum, which is the first
time that I have seen it, Dr. Amador.
Dr. Rolando Amador: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I'm sorry, we met for
the last time on December 1st. We have met so many times, it looks
like a long, long time has gone by. At the last time that we met, we
finished our meeting around 10:30 at night. The staff of the City had
a very short time to work on it. Considering and reviewing all the
petitions for funding this year the committee met beforehand and made
very clear and very precise the definition of what the festival would be.
We also were cognizant of the fact that we were allocated $186,000
this year. Last year, I think the City Commission granted about
$527,000. So we, in allocating our funds or making the recommendations
for the allocation of funds, we took the liberty of saying, O.K. we
are going to allocate a recommendation for $186,000, but also we would
recommend to the City Commission that they will increase the festival
funding to about 1/2 of the funding of last year. That will be about
$250,000. So, we also had in our minds, in reviewing the different
petitions, the fact that some of the organizations that came before us
with their proposals did not actually match the definition of what a
festival would be. On some of them we had, or at least in one case we
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Dr. Amador: have a question mark to the real validity from the stand
point of our definition of the way we have been handling the thing of
the activity proposal. So we, in certain ways liked the activity a lot,
but we weren't completely sure that the activity was exactly what we had
in mind or what the City Comm- ion had in mind and the Administration
had in mind when they create he Festival Committee. Today I saw that
$40,000 were given or allocated to the Sunstreet Festival. I would like
to know if that is for this coming year.
Mr. Garr: This year.
Dr. Amador: For '83, but it passed....?
Mr. Gary: "83-'84.
Dr. Amador: '84, O.K., good, then we have one there, that's exactly
what I like; it is a very valuable organization. We have recommended
only $10,000, because of the constraint of the $186,000 we are working
upon. We recommended for a Fiesta by the Bay, for example, which is
a very valuable festival. The committee itself was very impressed with
what happened last year. We recommended that $15,000 be granted to them.
If the extra funds become available, that $10,000 also be granted to them.
To the Chopin Foundation, which also is one of the type of committees
that created a lot of discussion within the Festival Committee, because
there are two kinds of schools within the committee. One that says only
those festivals that would attract a great crowd are to be considered
for funding and also a different approach to this saying that the quality
of the activities, the prestige that the activity may bring to the City
was also to be a part of it. So we recommended a festival of the Chopin
Foundation of the United States be granted $3,000.
The One Art Ballet, Inc., which is a festival of children's ballet,
we also recommended $3,000. For a festival of Hispanic theatre, which
is a first in the City, because of the quality of the production they
have recommended, we also said $3,000. To the Miami Waves, which is a
very new thing, we recommended $2,000. Then we have two petitions coming
from two different Haitian organizations: one is the Asosiasyon Atistik
E Kiltirel and the other the Haitian Carnival. We were, in the committee,
trying to determine if we actually needed two different activities or two
different festivals, but because we have very little experience at this
time, we thought that it would be good to give them seed money to both
of them in implementing one of the aQreements... or kind of a general
gentleman's agreement in the committee to hnvP in every festival at least
one or two members of the committee to see what goes on. We agreed to
recommend to each of one of these Haitian associations or festivals
the amount of $9,500 to each one of them.
The Goombay Festival, which is one of those things which are now
a part of the tradition of this City of Miami, we are recommending
$46,000 immediately. If additional fundings become available, they
are to be given $14,000. This comes because, actually, the Goombay
Festival ... the funding that the City gives to them is fundamentally
in in -kind services. In other words, police, sanitation, fire protection,
rescue services, actually it is not monies that go out of the City, it
is money that goes from one pocket of the City to another pocket of the
City.
The International Oceanographic Foundation... we have the Bounty of
the Sea Food Festival, which is something that we try to accomodate
within our perimeters, our way of looking at things; we recommend $2,000.
Now, to Dance Miami, which is also a very viable activity that we
like a lot, but we thought that because they were asking money to present
a festival outside the limits of the City of Miami, and not only outside
the City of Miami, outside the limits of the United States, we thought
that we would not under our mandate able to allocate anything to them.
If they want anything, and it may be a very valuable festival idea
out of Miami, then they should come to the City Commission and request
their funding directly from you.
For the Little Havana Tourist Authority and the Carnaval Miami
we recommended that $25,000 be allocated outright and in the event
that excess funding becomes available, that $5,000 be given to them.
To the Calle Ocho Festival, which is also part of the tradition of
Miami, we recommended $20,000 and $5,000 extra if funding becomes
available for these extra things. Also, please notice that both
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Dr. Amador (Con't): Carnaval Miami and Calle Ocho, most of the monies
coming to them come in in -kind services. It's not money that directly
goes to enhance or to make the festival directly... are going to the
lone proper activities. They are different from having the usual
needs of the City.
The International Folk Festival, by the same token, we recommend
that they have a very valuable, very good ideas. But we thought that
those ideas have not really materialized into a completely structural
and coherent ideas of the festival. So we also recommend that they
come directly to the City, with our backing, if you want, but without
recommendation that they be funded out of the funds allocated for festivals
this year.
The Liberty City Square Housing Project, which is also a very
valuable one, on which we have one of the members of the committee,
or two members of the committee have had the experience of going there,
we recommend that $5,000 be allocated immediately and that $10,000 be
allocated if extra funding becomes available.
Now, the Amistad Promotions Inc. was also one of those things that
are full of magnificent ideas, but we didn't think that they actually
had a crystalized in a real concept of the festival. We also said
that this particular application should be reviewed by the City
Manager and his recommendation be followed by the City Commission.
The St. Patrick's Day Parade, which is one of the old things that
we have in Miami that's part of the tradition of the City, we recommend
$15,000. For Reencuentro Cubano we recommended $10,000 and if extra
funding becomes available, we recommend an extra $5,000.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me ask you this. I notice
that you have no funding here for the International Folk Festival.
Dr. Amador: Which one is that, sir?
Mr. Gary: He said the City should pick that up. This is a City official
function. Look at the memo, item number 6.
Dr. Amador: That is one of the City's official funding. I mean the
City has to have a special funding for the International Folk Festival.
In other words, if we took $65,000 from our very limited funding, there
would have been taken a third of it.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much and please stick around because we
will be asking you for further information.
Dr. Amador: O.K.
Mayor Ferre: There are several people that I know want to speak. We have
Ringo, I know you want to speak; Marty Freedman, I'd like to recognize you;
and who else wishes to speak on these items?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Hallaway.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Hallaway, why don't those of you who wish to speak
-it looks like six or seven speakers- I think that if we give each of
you three minutes, that ought to cover it. This is an open process,
so I'm willing to listen to anybody, but I would say that these people
in this committee have worked very hard and certainly we need to be
very careful that we don't ... we need to treat with respect their hard
work.
Mr. Dawkins: Before you get started, Mr. Ringo, who is Mrs. Eline
Sylvain?
Mr. Ringo Cayard: She is in charge of the festival which doesn't have
anything to do with the carnival.
Mr. Dawkins: But they have her listed here for the carnival and they
have her listed as the gontact person for the festival.
Mr. Ringo Cayard: I would like to correct that. Sometimes you have
people try to take the whole show for themselves. That happens in all
the communities. Maybe that is what we have in ours.
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Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, sir.
Mr. Ringo Cayard: My name is Ringo Cayard; my address is 5700 N.W.
2 Avenue. This is my business address in the City. I would like to
explain to the Commissioners, the Mayor and the people in here what
is the difference between a carnival and a festival. A carnival is
a tradition all over Haiti and many parts of the world that include
a big parade which goes to many, many square blocks with people dancing
on the streets, bands on the streets. It is basically like Calle Ocho's.
They do have carnivals in Rio, Brazil and many places. So, therefore,
the expenses for carnivals are much higher than the expenses for festivals.
However, festivals are something nice too, but you could put it enclosed,
because it is not wide group of people. The carnival itself is our main
concern. Last year we've been having the carnival. We spent over
$35,000 in that carnival. That was just money from the community.
A few years ago, we have been spending money to put a carnival together.
However, we'd like this year to have some support of the City to put
the carnival together. We do have with us here, representative of
the Haitian community, Mr. Biombi, Jacques Despinosa.
We feel that the carnival is something to be considered. *6,�UU doesn't
mean a thing. It won't even cover maybe half of the police that we need
to cover 24 square blocks. So, I would suggest that they upgrade that,
due to the fact that the men who put that together maybe weren't aware
of what kind of carnival expenses are.
Mayor Ferre: Ringo, how much is reasonable?
Mr. Dawkins: Just a minute, though.
Mr. Cayard: We ask for $55,000.
Mayor Ferre: How can we give you $55,000.
Mr. Cayard: We know that this is almost ... we know that the budget is
cut off.
Mayor Ferre: We're not spending $200,000 on the whole thing?
Mr. Cayard: I know. Last year, you know, the Cayard family put well over
$20,000 from their own pockets into the carnival.
Mr. Dawkins: How much is that out of the Haitian Merchants spent last
year on the carnival themselves?
Mr. Cayard: We spent $35,000 and of that....
Mr. Dawkins: Out of your own pockets?
Mr. Cayard: Of that our own pockets over $20,000 came from ... we don't
mind to put some of that money this year into it. But what we do not
want is having to share the same type of money between the festival and
the carnival, because we have much greater expenses than these people.
I find that almost ridiculous to have that. How could you compare something
that is done in a little spot with something which is being done is
24 square blocks? It's impossible!
Mr. Dawkins: The people who are planning the festival, do they live
within Little Haiti?
Mr. Cayard: They live in Homestead, I presume.
Mayor Ferre: So what you are saying is take the carnival money, I mean
the festival money and put it into the carnival.
Mr. Cayard: Then we can deal with them in that case. We would be
able to share with them.
Mayor Ferre: Is that what your budget recommends?
Mr. Dawkins: I would recommend that, yes, I would.
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Mayor Ferre: I will go along with that, if it is... Are there any
major objections to that? Thank you. Mr. Holloway.
Mr. Wilbur Holloway: My name is Wilbur Holloway. My address is 6112 -
N.W. 7 Avenue. That is my business address. I come on behalf of the
Sunstreet Festival Committee, Inc. I come again focusing in on the
positives. I'd like to asure you that I am continuing to focus in
on the positives about our Black community. I'm saying that from
a perspective that as we reach out to really give a perspective of
South Florida, we are trying and we have initiated with the effort of
Sunstreet, to do and to reach across the nation, and not have the _
negatives that affect and impact our tourism and impact our business
dollar and impact our community here. I'm somewhat appalled to see
that the committee would make a recommendation at this level, having
not had the opportunity of experiencing Sunstreet just last week -end.
Mr. Gary: Is this Sunstreet Festival?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Gary: I think your argument probably should be for next year. The
Commission has already made a commitment. We have already spent the money.
Mr. Holloway: I'm not arguing. I'm looking at a report that we are
looking at right now for '84, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Gary: But he's coming up in '84-'85. When does he have his festival?
Mr. Plummer: In December.
Mr. Gary: In December, that's '84-'85.
Mr. Holloway: Help me with that, Howard. I'm sorry.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, he's on the fiscal year.
Mr. Gary: You are on the fiscal year '83-'84. You already have your
money for '83-'84. Your next festival is going to be in '84-'85. So,
you have already been taken care of. You've already had your money.
—� Mr. Plummer: In other words, the 184 festival will come in the next
year's budget.
Mr. Holloway: That's fine. We just want to make sure that we understand
this. Is that on the record? We have it for 1984.
Mr. Gary: They passed a resolution, a motion. You spent money. We
are getting ready to pay you money.
Mr. Plummer: Have you ever seen a man with a bow tie do a slight -of -hand.
Mr. Holloway: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: � The way I read it, you iust ent yourself 04^,nn^ for next
year. I don't Know what you are talking about:
Mr. Plummer: All he is doing is subjecting himself to losing.
Mayor Ferre: You'd better pay attention, you know, that Manager moves
pretty quick. And Miller over here ... he's moving quick too, but I knew
where he was going before he started. Go ahead.
Ms. Terry Stone: I'm Terry Stone and I'm the Executive Director for the
Coconut Grove Art Festival. I see that the committee recommended $8,000
for the Art Festival. We were not even heard by the Festival Advisory
Committee. Perhaps if we were, we would have responded to the two issues
that I just heard. Number one, they are looking to fund events that attract
tourists to the City of Miami. We are the largest event of our type in
the State. We're the second largest in the United States. We have
550,000 last year. So, I think we satisfy that criteria. Number two,
all the money that we are asking for, $24,222 comes right back to the
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Ms. Stone (Con't): City for police and sanitation. That is all we're
asking from the Commission. We are not asking for any other expenses.
Mayor Ferre: That is all everybody is asking.
Ms. Stone: Well, the Coconut Grove Arts Festival, in addition to
attracting tourists and being a safe event for the City of Miami and
a good promotional event, also provides the opportunity for groups
like Coconut Grove L.D.C., who raised $8,000 last year; Parent Resource
Center raised $7,000; Jaycees, the Kiwanis... We need the money.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, I just want to make sure I understand what
you are talking about. The committee is recommending $8,000 for
the Coconut Grove Association, Inc. Coconut Grove Art Festival, and
you are asking for $22,000. Is that what you are saying?
Ms. Stone: We ask for $24,000. That is what we ask for.
Mayor Ferre: How much did you receive last year?
Ms. Stone: $11,000, with the recommendation that we get more, up to
$25,000, but we did not. We only got the $11,000.
Mayor Ferre: O.K.
Ms. Stone: In addition to that, our festival is two months away and
there were two other measures that we told to include as an addendum
form. One was the street closing, which we do need an O.K. on. 1
believe the second was for....
Mayor Ferre: That's not a part of this.
Ms. Stone: We were told that this was to be included with this presentation.
Mr. Plummer: This is for funding only.
Ms. Stone: That's the end of my plea then.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Ms. Stone. Ms. Johnson, do you want to add
anything? What did she say?
Mr. Gary: She said, "We just need the money."
Mayor Ferre: Corky, do you want to add anything?
Mr. Gary: She's on the committee.
Mayor Ferre: You're on the committee, all right.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Ferre: I can't hear a word you are saying. I know you are saying
something.
Unidentified Speaker: Ms. Thorp was not able to appear before the
committee. That might have had some bearing on it.
Ms. Stone: I stipulated the letter before the Commission to see that
we were...(inaudible- Not using the microphone)......... .
I think this is very important. We were notitied by Mr. Howard's office
of the guidelines. We followed those guidelines. We were told to make
an appointment on or before November 21st to our hearing, our personal
interview. I called the office three times to make an appointment and
was told, "We're not scheduling appointments yet. We don't know how
many people are coming. We're a little behind." I called until the
last working day before the interviews and they still had not scheduled
appointments. The day of the interview, I was in my office half the
day. I came in there and waited and called again with 102 fever;
and when they still had not scheduled me at noon for an appointment
that I was later given for 5:10 that afternoon, I left. They did not
notify our office until after 1:00 o'clock in the afternoon of a 5:00
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Ms. Stone (Con't): o'clock appointment when they had told us in the
guidelines we would be notified by November 21st. We tried to be
prepared and follow the guidelines. I think that the office should do
the same. I think it is only fair. Then we wouldn't have to waste
the time of the Commission.
Mr. Carollo: I agree.
Mayor Ferre: Captain Harry.
Captain Dan Kipnus: I'm Captain Dan Kipnus. I live at 1600 Tiger Tail
Avenue, City of Miami, Captain Harry Vernon from Captain Harry's Fishing
Supply. We are not even on this agenda. What I represent, Harry and
myself, is the Miami Billfish Tournament. We've been overlooked in that
these are some classic pictures of Miami , the Life magazine cover, which
Harry is the person standing in the cockpit many years ago; and pictures
of the Miami Billfish Tournament last year, our first year running. We
are going to have a second Miami Billfish Tournament this year and we'll
operate again out of Watson Island, as we did before. We are in front
of the Commission right now to ask, like everybody else, and like I
read in the newspaper, for certain amount of funds. I will say that
Dade County has come across with the exact, same package I'm going to
ask from the City of Miami Commission. I feel that it is definitely a
worth while situation. One of the reasons for this is taking an
economic studies from other tournaments, because we've only run one
year. We find an average tournament entrant spends $352 in the two
and a half days the tournament runs. The people accompanying them
spend $202. Considering that almost all of our activities, that's
hotel rooms, dockage, etc., etc. will be in the City of Miami, our
kick off and our banquet....
Mayor Ferre: How much are you asking for, Captain?
Captain Kipnus: We're asking for $5,000 in cash and $5,000 in -kind
services. We've been granted this from Dade County. We're coming
before the City of Miami Commission. We had eleven....
Mayor Ferre: Have you gone before the committee?
Captain Kipnus: We have not gone before the committee. We have made
five attempts to speak at this Commission in the past four months. We
have submitted proposals to you all as to what we will give you for
that money four times. I made proposals to each Commissioner, to the
City Clerk, and to all the parties, Ms. Gary included. They have been
submitted four times, that is six proposals each. You do not have them
in front of you. I have a list right now of what we will provide that
money, if you want to me briefly to run over it. O.K., I'll take that
as a yes. This is a way for the City to represent itself in a positive
manner. We have lots of fishermen that come in here. We figure that
60% of the boats that come in, come in from out of State or out of town;
they all have to get facilities here. One way for Miami to put a
positive image on itself after all the bad press that we've been having.
We will hold all of our events in the City. We will maintain our
tournament headquarters at Watson Island, which worked out very well
last year. We will promote the use of City marinas, charter boats,
and area hotels during the event. We allow use of all of the publicity
coming out of it to be used by the City in any way that they deem fit.
Again, we are asking for $5,000 in cash, and $5,000 in -kind services.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Captain. All right, Celia.
_ Ms. Celia Touzet: My name is Celia Touzet. My address is 2285 S.W. 24
Terrace. I represent the Latin Orange Festival Council, Fiesta by the
Bay. I am in favor of the committee recommendation with $15,000. Only
last year, 1982, the City of Miami gave me $15,000. This year the
festival is much, much bigger and it is in television too with Channel
17 which goes to Dade, Monroe, Broward, and Palm Beach counties, plus
it passes to the cable too. I need need a little more cooperation
from the City of Miami for the police, electricity and work service.
Remember, Mr. Mayor and the Commission, this year Miami had more tourists
for two reasons. One, the January 2nd play at the University of Miami
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Ms. Touzet (Con't): here in Miami and the January 1st, I think it is
the Dolphins play too. When I come in here is I need help for the
City of Miami people live here. I had wait for new ,year even; the
other one is attracting more tourists to Miami and in special to
downtown. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'll let everybody else finish. Then I want
to speak on this one in particular.
Mayor Ferre: O.K., are there any other speakers? Yes, sir.
Mr. Jacques Despinosa: My name is Jacques Despinosa, 550 N.E. 77 Street,
City of Miami. I live in the City and sleep in the City. My only
concern is with the carnival and the festival. I think it is about
time we start to make the record clear. We know people come in here
from Southwest 200 block in Miami Garden, everybody wants to represent
the so-called Little Haiti. I think it is about time those people who
live in the area get a fair share to understand it. We do support the
Haitian Carnival because those are professional businesses who live
in the City or own business in the City. We cannot accept anymore
people that come from outside the City and come in here and speak for
us. Everybody wants to bring (inaudible) we get all chiefs and
nobody wants to be indians. I think it is about time we deal with
people who are living in the City and pay their taxes. If those people
want to have the Haitians, I think they can go to Homestead, because
we have a lot of(inaudible) in Homestead, but nobody cares to go
to Homestead. Why does everybody want to come around over there and
take over? That's the way I feel about it. I'll appreciate the
support you give to the Haitian Carnival. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: No further speakers? Morty?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will make a motion at this time, that Mr.
Morty Freedman's proposal, as also the recommendation of the Festival
Committee, that they meet with the Manager and that this proposal be
considered for a possible funding as a City function, and that they
come back to this Commission at the next meeting with a recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: Let me speak to that particular issue.
Mr. Plummer: Somebody better second my motion.
Mayor Ferre: Is that a motion?
Mr. Plummr: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner Perez seconds. Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 84-1140
A MOTION ACCEPTING A REPORT SUBMITTED BY A REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE "FESTIVAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE"; FURTHER STIPULATING
THAT MORTY FREEDMAN'S PROPOSAL BE CONSIDERED FOR POSSIBLE
FUNDING AS A CITY FUNCTION; AND FINALLY REQUESTING OF THE
CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION WITH
HIS FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, you, I think, have had the opportunity to
see Detroit and its co -called ethnic festivals. As I understand it,
that office is run by just one person and a secretary. The rest of
it is almost all voluntary work from the different ethnic communities.
We need to get a verification of exactly how they operate.
Mr. Gary: That is correct. The festivals are privately funded; no
governmental funding.
Mayor Ferre: The City of Detroit doesn't do any funding of any of
these festivals?
Mr. Gary: None whatsoever.
Mayor Ferre: I can't belive that. Do you mean to tell me that all those
festivals that go on every week -end there have no government funding at
all?
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Mr. Gary: I got this out of the Mayor's office. He's to the point
where he couldn't even give us free tickets because it was controlled
by the private sector.
Mayor Ferre: And they all make money?
Mr. Gary: Well, no, the way they make money is that they lease out the
concessions, which in essense pays a cost for putting on the event.
They are more progressive than we are.
Mayor Ferre: I think what we need to do, therefore, Mr. Manager, is
we need to kind of revisit this whole idea of the Folk Festival and all
these festivals where we are spending now over a quarter of a million
dollars. I really think that we need to see how we can put all this
together under some kind of a tighter administrative umbrella. Besides
just somebody dealing with culture and that kind of thing, somebody who
can keep a handle on these festivals. I don't know whether we need to
bring in somebody from Detroit and borrow them for six months to a year
to help us set it up; but we need to do something. Perhaps, I read
Morty's recommendation. I'll tell you this, I've heard, I've checked
out what happened with Octoberfest this year, and it is one of the more
successful Octoberfests. I understand Morty Freedman was the one who
put that on. They made money. Maybe what we ought to do is to figure
out a way in which maybe we put some of these things out for bid or
something, and let the private sector come in and let them make some
money out of it. I have no problems with that.
Mr. Gary: They are doing it now to a degree.
Mayor Ferre: Did Octoberfest make money, Morty?
INDUDIBLE RESPONSE
Mayor Ferre: Where does the money go? Does it go to the Octoberfest?
I know the Greek Festival makes a lot of money, but that goes for the
church rebuilding and all that.
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Mayor Ferre: So the money goes back to a committee that is called
the German -American committee or something like that.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, one of the proposals here that has not been
presented, and I got to speak on the proposal, is the first one, and
that is the Milwaukee situation. Mr. Mayor, that every year has
made money for the City of Milwaukee. What it basically is is a
festival of food and music. For example, what would be proposed for
Coconut Grove that everyone of Monty Trainer's, the Grand Bay, anyone
that has a food situation, would have a booth and they would sell the
specialty of that restaurant. They would have a contest with ice
figurines. They would bring down as part of the promotion a jazz
— company. I sat through this proposal the other day from the Coconut
Grove marketing and I want to tell you that the proposal there, all
they really need is seed money and that's why I kind of feel this is
a misnomer. They are not asking for a grant. They are asking for
seed money, because this festival in Milwaukee and ... where Marshall?
Two other places it presently exists ... St. Paul, O.K. These festivals
make money. If we go on this thing here, I would like to put a reserve
Mr. Mayor, for at least seed money for this kind of a festival, which
last year now... of course, it is on -going and it's been in operation
three or four years, but it returned the revenues, Mr. Gary, of the
City $80,000. Cesar, you were at that meeting with me. I just think
that kind of...
Mayor Ferre: What kind of seed money are you talking about?
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, they need seed money, I would say at
this time, at least what the committee recommended of $10,000. If we
can put it together, that we do go and seed up to the $50,000 with
the guarantee that it would come back; because Cesar and I talked
to the people. We were talking to Monty Trainer; we were talking to
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Mr. Plummer (Con't): Mutiny; we were talking to Suzane's in the Grove.
These were the people who came to this presentation and of course, the
people who put it on out there, and they make a profit out of it..
They, themselves, make a profit as well as the City of Milwaukee.
You know, I said, O.K., are you guys willing to say that if this
thing doesn't make money that you would reimburse the City. They
said sure.
Mr. Marty Freedman: I didn't know of this other committee and I know
that Commissioners haven't had time to read the proposal they have there;
but in that proposal, it mentions the City's sponsoring an international
gourmet exhibition and competition. That's taken from an idea in the
Dominican Republic. Every year there they have the Dominican Republic's
national gastronomic exhibition and competition, and all the major hotels
and restaurants get together and they have their favorite dish and it's
all judged. The public is allowed to come in. They pay admission for
that. Then they are allowed to eat all these things that are made by
all these hotels and restaurants.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Gary, we have so many of these things. They all sound
like good ideas, but what we really need is to get some kind of an
evaluation process both from a citizen's input like we have now; but
I think you need to get somebody that's had some experience in doing
these things somewhere else and get them on staff somehow.
Unidentified Speaker: Representing the Festival Committee, we'd also
like to suggest to the City Commission that in the same manner as with
the International Folk Festival, that the Coconut Grove Art Festival
also have an opportunity to be reviewed with Mrs. Stone at a meeting
that would be set up within the next few weeks, since she was not given
the opportunity to meet with the committee.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will make two recommendations. The first one
is that I'm going to recommend on the Milwaukee Festival that seed money
of $25,000 be held in reserve.
Mayor Ferre: Is that the Marshall Steingold?
Mr. Plummer: He is just a representative of the Coconut Grove marketing,
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: This is the Milwaukee -type food festival.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mayor Ferre: And you are saying to earmark how much?
Mr. Plummer: $25,000 in seed money, but reserve it.
Mr. Gary: What? $25,000?
Mayor Ferre: This is money we get back?
Mr. Gary: They only asked for $10,000!
Mr. Plummer: No, he asked for $50,000. They recommended $10,000. I'm
saying give half and if they can put the thing together, then we come
up with the rest of the seed money. It's a reserve. It's not being
spent. It's got to be approved by this Commission prior to being
spent.
Mr. Gary: No, let's keep a balanced sheet. Fine, $186,000 less $40,000
less $25,000.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, no, no, wait a moment, what he is doing is subtracting
it from the rest of it and saying how are you going to distribute it?
Mr. Plummer: He's entitled to do whatever he wants even though it's
wrong. Mr. Mayor, the other recommendation is that the Latin Orange
Festival be increased $20,000 cash, I'll turn over to the Manager to find
the proper in -kinds. That is the only recommendation. I think we have
to address that which was of the Haitian; there were two. Am I to
understand, Mr. Mayor, your recommendation they become one?
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Mayor Ferre: The consolidation ... actually, what we are doing is we are
eliminating of the Haitian Festival and we are consolidating it into
the Haitian Carnival.
Mr. Plummer: Who do we hold responsible?
Mayor Ferre: Ringo, he was just here a little while ago.
Mr. Plummer: So let me understand. Then we are eliminating the carnival.
Mayor Ferre: No, it's the other way around.
Mr. Plummer: We are eliminating....
Mayor Ferre: The Asosiasyon Atistik E. Kiltirel Luma-N Kazimi.
Mr. Plummer: We are omitting this and then Haitian Carnival then goes
to $19,000.
Mayor Ferre: You got it.
Unidentified Speaker: Excuse me, and it is under the same project. Correct?
These two festivals are under the project director?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but we are consolitating them into one.
Unidentified Speaker: So you are consolidating as one.
Mr. Plummer: That's what the recommendation is.
Mayor Ferre: The recommendation is that we spend $20,000 to do one
correct, rather than to spend....
Mr. Gary: $19,000.
Mayor Ferre: ....$9,000; now the other thing is we need ... what are
we going to do about the Coconut Grove Art Festival?
Mr. Plummer: Where is that?
Mayor Ferre: That's the one where Terril Stone....
Mr. Plummer: I would move, Mr. Mayor, that be restored to last year's
level of funding of $11,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: I'm just trying to put it all together.
Mr. Carollo: He's just putting it together.
Mr. Dawkins: O.K., go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: I think you ought to go up to at least $15,000 on it.
I don't see how in the world they can....
Mr. Dawkins: Janet Reno! Janet Reno!
Mayor Ferre: I don't think they were active in anybody's campaign
that I know of. I can't say that for Ringo.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm trying to recruit them for mine, Maurice.
Mayor Ferre: I'm not talking about Ringo, but for sure, these people
from Coconut Grove, if they were active, I sure didn't see them. So,
I think what we need to do is get them up to $15,000, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem, Mr. Mayor. What is the Tiger Tail
Production? Does anybody know what the Tiger Tail Production....?
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Mr. Gary: I think that's the organization you belong to. Right?
Mr. Plummer: I don't belong to the Tiger Tail Production.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you are not going to take away their $2,000
Mr. Plummer: But I'm asking what are they; who are they? I'm sorry
I don't know anything about them.
Dr. Amador: That's one of the things that we addressed for
the first time it was one of the questions,what is this?
They had an idean of having a kind of a multi -media festival. We said,
well, we are going to recommend because the idea .... more or less structured
a small amount of seed money. We only recommended t2,000.
Mr. Plummer: Have they ever had any kind of a production before?
Dr. Amador: I don't think so. It is the first, I believe.
Mr. Plummer: Who are the people involved in the production.
Dr. Amador: Marilyn Gottlieb -Roberts is the director.
Mr. Plummer: I don't know who they are.
Mayor Ferre: I don't know who they are either.
Dr. Amador: They say they have been working....
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Chairman, hold on, now. We have a committee. They
function; and for us to start second guessing them at this point, I
think....
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, I'm not trying to second guess the
committee, but I think I have the right as a Commissioner to ask the
question who the people are, what have they done in the past. I think
it is mandated of us to do such.
Dr. Amador: They say they have had this ... this is the third year they
have had the festival. In the board of the entirety production,
they have Mary Lott.
Mayor Ferre: Who is Marilyn Gottlieb -Roberts?
Dr. Amador: Well, we have here her resume. It looks quite impressive.
Mayor Ferre: Is that Charlie Gottlieb's.... ?
Mr. Plummer: I don't think so. Who is the International Oceanographic
Foundation?
Dr. Amador: They have had a kind of a festival of seafood.
Mr. Plummer: Is that the one over here on the Rickenbaker?
Dr. Amador: Yes, I believe so, right.
Mr. Plummer: Dan, are you involved in that?
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Mr. Plummer: How does this address your proposal.
Unidentified Speaker: This has nothing to do with it. They came to us
and said we'd like part of it if it is seafood.
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Unidentified Speaker: I am only supporting the Miami Billfish Tournament.
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Mr. Plummer: What is your request there?
Mayor Ferre: $5,000.
Unidentified Speaker: $5,000 and $5,000 in -kind services, such as you provided
last year.
Mr. Dawkins: What are the in -kind services, sir?
Unidentified Speaker: In -kind ... you helped us build a waste station in
Watson Island and you set up our signs and banners, etc., etc., support
facilities for Watson Island. By the way it happens to be an excellent
facility and location for running tournaments. (INAUDIBLE COMMENT).
Mr. Dawkins: What you are saying is that we should not develop Watson
Island. We should leave it for you.
Unidentified Speaker: No, you should develop it in a water -related
manner.
Mr. Plummer: I'll include in here the five and five. I think we got
tremendous publicity.
Mayor Ferre: All right, can we put a stop to this before it gets out
of hand. Let me tell you what we've done. We've added 25 and 20
is 45 and 5 is 50 and 4 is 54. That's what I count so far. So $186,000
and $54,000 is $240,000, including yours.
Mr. Plummer: Of which, $25,000, Mr. Mayor, is seed money for the
Milwaukee. If that is not used....
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Joe seconds.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 83-1140.1
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE CITY FUNDS
AS HEREINBELOW ITEMIZED IN CONNECTION WITH THE
HOLDING OF THE FOLLOWING CITY FESTIVALS AND/OR
EVENTS:
1. THAT $25,000 SEED MONEY BE HELD IN RESERVE
FOR THE "MILWAUKEE FESTIVAL" (PROPOSED FOOD
FESTIVAL IN COCONUT GROVE) TO SEE IF THEY CAN
PUT THE PROJECT TOGETHER; IF SO, THEN TO FUND
THEM A FURTHER $25,000; FURTHER STIPULATING
NONE OF THIS MONEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE SPENT
PRIOR TO CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL, AND WHEN
SPENT, IT SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS SEED MONEY
ONLY, NOT A GRANT;
2. THAT THE HAITIAN CULTURAL FESTIVAL BE CONSOLIDATED
WITH AND MERGED INTO THE "HAITIAN CARNIVAL", FOR A
TOTAL OF $19,000 FUNDING;
3. THAT THE "MIAMI BILLFISH TOURNAMENT" BE FUNDED
FOR $5,000 IN CASH AND $5,000 IN IN -KIND SERVICES
SUCH AS WERE RENDERED LAST YEAR (e.g., a weigh-in
station, etc.); AND
4. THAT THE COCONUT GROVE FESTIVAL BE FUNDED FOR AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: I expect a very nice editorial from the Miami News on
that one.
Unidentified Speaker: Mr. Mayor, excuse me, I was called here again.
Is everything fine?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, what we did is we took both of them and put them
in the one, and it is $20,000.
Unidentified Speaker: I wanted to clarify this Haitian Carnival, Inc.
It's Haitian Carnival, Inc.
36. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE - EXEMPT HOLDERS OF CITY FRANCHISES IN WHICH THE
SUBJECT MATTER STREET EXCAVATION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
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Mayor Ferre: This is an emergency ordinance. Miller Dawkins moves.
Mr. Plummer: What is this on?
Mayor Ferre: Plummer seconds. Read the ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: This is called the F.P.& L., Southern Bell and Fuller
Gas relief fund.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9740, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 16, 1983, WHICH RELATED TO
STREET RESTORATION COSTS, BY EXEMPTING FROM SAID
ORDINANCE HOLDERS OF CITY FRANCHISES IN WHICH THE
SUBJECT MATTER OF STREET EXCAVATION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by
Commissioner Plummer for adoption as an emergency measure and
dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two separate days,
which was agreed to by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and
seconded by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said Ordinance by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
* Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 9760
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Com-
mission and to the public.
ON ROLL CALL:
* Mr. Dawkins: I'm voting yes, but I also want to tell both companies
that I am a little disturbed in that you set up your own meetings
and you consumated your meetings with your attorney and our attorney
without involving the City Manager. That disturbs me. I would hope
that from now on, before you come to this Commission with your gripes
and your complaints, whether it is yes or no, that you have sat down
with the Manager and you have come to some kind of an understanding.
I vote yes.
37. A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER FOR THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF MR. JOSE MENDEZ
- A PROCLAMATION TO A.S.P.I.R.A. ACCEPTED BY DR. ROSARIO.
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Mayor Ferre: Is the Chairman of the committee here, from the Festival
Committee still here? Tell him to come back.
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Pam:; T F�CORD: Commissioner Dawkins left the meeting at 5:00 P.M.
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Mr. Plummer: What do you need?
Mayor Ferre: I think we need to pass a resolution of condolences.
Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to inform you the sad news. I didn't want
to tell you until we finished, that Jose Mendez, the former Chairman,
passed away this afternoon. He just died about an hour and a half ago.
I would like at this time to ask for a minute of silence, if you would
all stand. Jose Mendez was a friend of many people in this community.
If you would just in your own minds pray for the eternal rest of a soul
of a man who for many years dedicated himself to the welfare of this
community. This very morning he came here talking to me about the fact
that he had been able to convince Dr. Juan Rosario, the National Executive
Director of A.S.P.I.R.A., to fly down from New York to be present this
afternoon and asked me to give Mr. Rosario a commendation, which I am
about to do in a minute. But in the meantime, I would like for all of
us to share one minute of silence for the rest of this man, who served
this community and the Puerto Rican community so well for so many years.
SILENCE. -
Thank you, you may be seated. I'd like to ask Dr. Rosario to please
step forward, if he would.
AT THIS POINT THE MAYOR PRESENTED DR. JUAN ROSARIO WITH
A COMMENDATION FOR THE A.S.P.I.R.A. PROGRAM OF COUNSELING
THE YOUTH.
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38. MOTION SENDING BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY A PROPOSED ORDINANCE DEALING
WITH PEDDLERS, VENDORS, ETC. FOR REDRAFTING.
Mayor Ferre: We are on item 13 on second reading. Are there people who
wish to speak to the Commission on this item? This is on second reading.
This deals with peddlers, itinerant manufacturers, locksmith, tool grinders,
ice cream vendors.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to have to interject something here
that I'm going to be interjecting later with the wrecker situation.
I have a real problem, Mr. Mayor, with the fact of a peddler, who most
of them are not the owner of the carts, who are out making a living,
but I have a real problem with the first time they are arrested for
violation to be subjected to jail time. I have a problem with that.
I just have to admit it right out front. I am going to propose in
the wrecker ordinance, and I have to do the same here in the interest
of fairness, that the first time be a fine, the second time be a fine,
then if they haven't learned their lesson, at least they have had two
warnings. The third time and thereafter be a fine and/or jail time.
I have a real problem with someone doing jail time trying to make a living.
Mayor Ferre: As I recall the question is not jail, but the impoundment
of the property. I agree with your position to this extent, J.L. I
think that we ought to give them a warning at least twice before we
go out and impound somebody's property. I think the impounding of
a vendor's property the first time out is a very drastic thing to do.
I would recommend that we do it by giving these people an opportunity,
like you said, two warnings before we do any impounding.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. City Attorney, how is this worded as it relates to
jail time, as far as penalty?
Mayor Ferre: I didn't see any jail in there. It says impounding of
property. That's what it says.
Mr. Plummer: Is that all that it does?
Mayor Ferre: That's about enough for somebody who is trying to make a
living.
Mr. Plummer: No, there is a big difference of impounding your property...
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Mr. Plummer: What are the penalties attached to violation of this
ordinance when passed?
Mr Garcia -Pedrosa: By State law, Commissioner, the violation of an
ordinance would entail $500 or 60 days or both.
Mr. Plummer: I have a problem. That's possible first convictio:i.
Right?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have a problem with that.
Mayor Ferre: I do too.
Mr. Plummer: I really do.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer, I would like to do it this way, if I could
recommend a procedure. This is the same thing that we did, I see Rose
Gordon is here. She may remember way back when we did this with the
prostitution issue. There is a first time and a second time and a
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Mr. Plummer: A progressive penalty.
Mayor Ferre: I would say that the first two times that it be a warning.
That the third time it be the impounding of property. After that, they
be arrested.
Mr. Plummer: Let me put it to you this way.
Mayor Ferre: If somebody does the same thing four times, and keeps on
violating the law....
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, they don't have to me, three times and you're
out. I say to you that the first time, the the fine be imposed. Second
time, the impounding of the property and a fine. Third time, then if
they haven't learned their lesson, they're not going to and you have
to talk to them in the only terms they understand.
Mayor Ferre: Is that in the form of a motion?
Mr. Plummer: I would modify this ordinance that the first offense be
no more than a $500 fine; that the second offense be the impounding
of the property and no more than a $500 fine; and that the third offense
be a $500 fine and/or 60 days, if that is the terminology, or 30 days,
whatever you are using.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Maximum.
Mr. Plummer: Whatever the proper terminology is.
Mayor Ferre: Up to $500.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., the judge is going to use his discretion anyhow.
They have had two good substantial warnings prior.
Mayor Ferre: Is that all right with you, Demetrio? All right, Commissioner
Perez seconds the motion as amended, because they are going to have to
rewrite the ordinance on second reading.
Mr. Plummer: Well, then there is another question I want. Mr. Clark,
you and I spoke about having to produce not only an occupational license,
but that they do pay their sales tax. What did you tell me that you were
going to check with Tallahassee and get back on it? What is the wording
that we need to incorporate.
Mr. Robert Clark: We don't have that language back from Tallahassee yet
and I should point out, Commissioner Plummer, the impounding of the vehicle
is strictly incidental to a situation much the same as a disabled
vehicle. The impounding is not part of the penalty. The impounding
authority is simply for the police to protect the man's cart, if he is
arrested. The impounding should not be part of the penalty provision
at all.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, do you or my colleagues have any problems
with them having to produce proof that they are collecting the sales
tax, that they are paying the State of Florida their income tax and
all of that. I would like to get that incorporated in the motion.
The same thing that a businessman has to do.
Mayor Ferre: I accept that.
Mr. Plummer: Under a festival that is a different story. He brings
us a good point. I think we had better discuss that right now. Mr.
Gary, are we creating more of a problem than we can live with? For
example, Calle Ocho and vendors, there is no question that vendors
are existing there much less than 300 feet in front of a business
doing the same kind of business.
Mr. Gary: That law doesn't exist anyway.
Mr. Plummer: It does not apply to festivals? The ordinance here does
not exlude it. Since we are going to be rewriting it, should we incorporate
in there language to address the problem?
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Mr. Gary: I would say yes, but the 300 feet issue is not an issue
anyway. The court ruled that unconstitutional.
Mr. Plummer: Well, it is still in this ordinance here.
Mr. Clark: No, it is not.
Mr. Gary: It shouldn't be.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: We had it stricken.
Mr. Clark: We deleted it.
Mr. Gary: I think the issue of vendor prohibitions or permissions should
be a part of the ordinance, sure.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., so in other words, Mr. City Attorney, when you re-
draft it, you re -draft it with that in mind. I move that item 13 be
sent back to the City Attorney for redrafting.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Commissioner Perez. Further discussion? Call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 83- 1141
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION SENDING BACK TO THE
CITY ATTORNEY, FOR REDRAFTING, A PROPOSED SECOND READING
ORDINANCE DEALING WITH PEDDLERS, VENDORS, ETC., FURTHER
REQUESTING OF THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE IN THE NEW
ORDINANCE FOR THE FOLLOWING PENALTIES, WHICH PENALTIES
ARE TO BE IMPOSED UPON ARREST FOR VIOLATION OF THE LAW
DEALING WITH RESTRICTIONS AS TO SOLICITATION OF BUSINESS:
(a) FIRST CONVICTION: -A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN $500.00;
(b) SECOND CONVICTION: -IMPOUNDING OF THE PROPERTY AND
A FIND OF NOT MORE THAN $500.00; AND
(c) THIRD CONVICTION: -ARREST, AND UP TO A $500.00 FINE
AND/OR 60 DAYS IN JAIL;
FURTHER REQUESTING THAT SAID ORDINANCE BE DRAFTED TO
ENSURE THAT SAID INDIVIDUALS HAVE PAID TO THE CITY ALL
PERTINENT FEES AND TAXES WHICH ARE DUE UNDER THE LAW.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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39. SECOND READING ORDINANCE - INCREASE GREEN FEES, CART FEES, AMENDING
SECTION 30-53, 30-54, 30-55 OF THE CITY CODE FOR CITY OF MIAMI GOLF
COURSES.
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Mayor Ferre: Take up item 14.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Plummer moves. Mr. Perez seconds. Further discussion?
This revises the fee schedule of the City of Miami golf courses. Any
further discussion on second reading. Read the ordinance.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Nobody is here to speak, Mr. Mayor, let the record
reflect that.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTIONS (A) (2) AND
(B) (1) AND (2) OF SECTION 30-53, ENTITLED
"GREEN FEES" AND SUBSECTIONS (A)(1) AND (2)
OF SECTION 30-54, entitled "CART FEES", AND
SECTION 30-55, ENTITLED "SPECIAL RATES", OF
THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED, BY REVISING THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR
CITY OF MIAMI GOLF COURSES; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of November 16, 1983,
it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9761
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Com-
mission and to the public.
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40. MOTION REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF FEES OF PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS —
OF THE TOWING ORDINANCE AND PASSAGE OF SECOND READING ORDINANCE
REGARDING THE TOWING OF MOTOR VEHICLES AS AMENDED.
Mavor Ferre: Take up item 15. Plummer, that's the towing of motor
vehicles.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand. Mr. Mayor, I will be offering as part
of the ordinance ... I have discussed it with the attorney who is representing
the people involved, and I will be offering, if he wishes to make a presen-
tation about ... Oh, I'm sorry, there is one other area, Mr. Gary, they have
a problem with the Police Chief issuing the licenses. There was discussion
about it possibly being done by the Off Street Parking Authority. My
answer to them was that I don't care who does it. I want it wherever
it is administratively best and the cheapest to perform. I bring that
for the record.
Mr. Gary: We stand by the Police Chief.
Mr. J.D. Larraz: Thank you. My name is J.D. LaRoz. I'm general counsel
for the Dade County Tow Services Association. Let me just say right out
up front that the association by overwhelming vote is in favor of 99.9%
of this ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: That's not what we heard.
Mr. Larraz: The two points where we have had problems with this ordinance
repeatedly... we think are unworkable, not for us but for the City. I
have, as an attorney, serious constitutional problems with having the
same person, not agency, but the Police Chief, grant the licenses and
decide the enforcement of it. It seems that is something that separation
of powers calls for to be done by different persons or at least a different
agency. That's why we have requested that at least licensed issuance be
done by Off -Street Parking. I don't believe that...I've been unable to
speak to Chief Harms ... I don't believe that he'll have any objection to
getting more red tape off his desk. Mr. Mayor, there are three forms
of punishment right now. The State law is a civil statute only. It
says that if you don't tow a car right, you get sued. It costs a lot
of money. Now this ordinance would bring about City licensing. If you
don't tow a car right, you get your license revoked. We're in favor of
that. The third part is the radical departure from any City ordinance
in the State of Florida that I have been able to find regulating towing;
which is in spite of suing civilly, in spite of taking someone's license
away and telling them they cannot do any more business, now you have
criminal penalties. We think it is unnecessary. This is section 9,
the last section of the law. If you have somebody sued for a million
dollars, if you have their license taken away, I think you have him.
I really think you have him. I think it is unnecessary. Commissioner
Miller Dawkins....
Mayor Ferre: Section 9 doesn't say any such thing. It requires towing
companies to maintain trip records for each and every vehicle towed.
Mr. Larraz: Mr. Mayor, that's the last page of the ordinance, the
section that I am referring to, it's penalties for violation. I
think it is labelled section 9.
This is an industry that through the association of the last four
months has begun the process of setting up the mediation board for all
persons who have a complaint as to how or why their car is towed. This
is an industry that is in the process of setting up a hot line, such
as the Off -Street Parking Authority has for anyone who has a complaint
about the way their car has been towed.
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Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time, I would recommend, Mr. Plummer,
that we do the same thing with this as we did with the vendors. That
we make it a gradual step type of a thing. In other words, the first
time around, they get fined. The second time around, you know... or
the first two times they get a fine. If they keep on doing it, the
third time around....
Mr. Plummer: Progressive.
Mayor Ferre: ....then we arrest them.
Mr. Plummer: What I had recommended, Mr. Mayor, was the first offense,
$500; the second offense, $1,000; the third and more offences is the
criminal penalties and $1,000, not to exceed ... is that what it is?
Mr. Carollo: Do not pass "GO" and do not collect "$200."
Mayor Ferre: Don't pass "GO" and collect "$200."
Mr. Plummer: Yes, right. That is my recommendation for the change
in the ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion to that?
Mr. Plummer: They have two full warnings in advance.
Mr.Larraz: Mr. Mayor, State Attorney, Janet Reno and Police Chief Kenneth
Harms are the ones that have added this extra feature to the law. All
I would ask if this Commission passes this law at 99% of it and it
establish some kind of ad hoc committee so I could have an opportunity
to ask State Attorney, Janet Reno, why she wants criminal penalties for
the first time on these folks. I don't think there is an explanation.
Mr. Gary: Why haven't you asked her up to now?
Mayor Ferre: Look, as far as I am concerned, my position is this, I
like what Plummer is recommending and if he makes that in the form of
a motion, I'm willing to vote for it. I don't know whether he can get
another vote.
Mr. Carollo: You know, I think that is the best compromise you are
going to get out of this Commission, from what I am seeing. So I
would suggest that...
Mayor Ferre: You get two free rides at $500; $500, $1,000, and then
after that....
Mr. Larraz: The first two are fines, in other words.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr.Larraz: I understand that and I think the Commission is about to
pass that. I just want it on record there is still no official explanation
as to why these persons in the community have pressed for it. I think
they owe this Commission to come before the Commission and explain why
they want a selected group to have criminal penalties.
Mayor Ferre: I think that is something you ought to discuss with them.
Mr.Larraz: They refuse to speak to me. They have not recommended that
I pass any laws.
Mr. Carollo: Would it be appropriate for this Commission to ask them
the logic behind it?
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Carollo: I hope they are not offended by it, but....
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Mr. Larraz: There is a letter by Janet Reno in the record, which Mr.
Gary has included, which says that a Mr. Edwin Simons had a complaint
and therefore, she would like criminal penalties. I don't know who
Edwin Simons is and I don't know why his case merits labeling over
300 businesses in this City as potential criminals.
Mr. Plummer: I don't agree with that. Let me tell you why.
Mayor Ferre: She explains it in her letter. Do you have her letter?
Mr. Plummer: No, I think that the real answer to your question is
the fact that criminal penalties are putting some bite into this
ordinance. We've taken it out of the first offense and we've taken
it out of the second offense. God knows you've had two good warnings.
The third one is it's a deterrent. That's what it is. That's a simple
answer. It's a deterrent.
Mr. Larraz: Commissioner, can I ask you for one compromise then?
Would the Commission at least....
Mr. Plummer: One more, you've got one.
Mr. Larraz: ....yes, sir, but what I would ask for is this. I don't
think it hurts anybody one way or the other. I would ask this Commission
to review this after 30 days, excuse me, three months, 90 days.
Mayor Ferre: Sure, that's reasonable.
Mr. Plummer: That's reasonable.
Mayor Ferre: And have this matter to be reviewed three months after
it goes into effect and becomes law. With that as a motion, is that
acceptable, J.L.?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: That's acceptable.
Mayor Ferre: Who moves it?
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Who seconds? Further discussion on the motion? Right?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: On the motion.
Mayor Ferre: You have to do some rewriting. Do you?
Mr. Plummer: No, I don't think you have to rewrite. This one becomes
law.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: We can bring that back as an accomplished fact
because it is easy enough, Mr. Mayor. It is clear enough what Commissioner
Plummer is saying.
Mayor Ferre: The question to the City Attorney is do we pass this as
a motion or a second reading.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I think you need to pass the amendment and then
pass the ordinance, as a second reading.
Mayor Ferre: All right, first on the amendment, the motion has been
moved by Plummer and seconded by Carollo. Further discussion as
stipulated into the record? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 83-1142
A MOTION TO MAKE THE MAXIMUM PENALTY FOR BREAKING Th E
TOWING ORDINANCE A FINE FOR $500 FOR A FIRST
OFFENSE, $1,000 FOR THE SECOND OFFENSE„ AND
CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND $1,000 FOR THE THIRD
OFFENSE; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT THIS MATTER
BE REVIEWED THREE MONTHS AFTER IT GOES INTO
EFFECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Ferre: Now, with the amendment, is there a motion on the ordinance
on second reading?
Mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Perez seconds. Further discussion as amended? Read the
ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE TOWING OF MOTOR
VEHICLES: AMENDING CHAPTER 42 OF THE CODE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED BY
ADDING THERETO A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED "TOWING
OF MOTOR VEHICLES"; PROVIDING FOR THE LICENSURE
AND REGULATION OF BUSINESS ENTERPRISES ENGAGED
IN THE PRACTICE OF RECOVERING, TOWING, REMOVING,
AND STORING OF MOTOR VEHICLES PARKED ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMISSION, PROVIDING FOR
INCLUSION IN THE CODE; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 18, 1983,
it was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9762
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Com-
mission and to the public.
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41. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 2-308 "DISCLOSURE OF PARTIES
AND INTEREST" BY PROVIDING FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE REQUIREMENT OF
FULL DISCLOSURE, OF FORMAL REQUEST PETITIONS, ETC. MADE TO THE CITY
COMMISSION OR ANY CITY BOARD.
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Mayor Ferre: Does anybody need item 17? Can we skip over that?
Mr. Plummer: Is there any problem with that one? Is there anyone here
to speak against it?
Mr. Gary: No.
Mr. Plummer: Let's pass it on first reading.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves on first reading item 17. Perez seconds.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Carollo. Further discussion on first reading?
Read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDI!%G SECTION 2-308, ENTITLED
"DISCLOSURE OF PARTIES IN INTEREST BY PERSONS
MAKING PRESENTATIONS, REQUESTS, ETC., TO CITY
COMMISSION OR BOARDS", OF THE CODE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY PROVIDING FOR
THE CLARIFICATION OF THE REQUIREMENT OF FULL
DISCLOSURE IN WRITING BY ALL PARTIES MAKING A
PRESENTATION, FORMAL REQUEST, OR PETITION, WITH
RESPECT TO REAL PROPERTY TO THE CITY COMMISSION
OR ANY CITY BOARD, OF ALL PARTIES HAVING AN
OWNERSHIP INTEREST, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, IN
SUCH REAL PROPERTY; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner
Carollo and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
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42. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION 19-45 (b) OF THE CODE "FEES
FOR FURNISHING REPORTS THAT ARE PUBLIC RECORDS, BY PROVIDING FOR AN
INCREASE IN SAID FEES".
Mayor Ferret We're not on item number 18.
Mr. Gary: This is the Fire Department, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferret Plummer moves item 18.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferret It's been moved and seconded. Further discussion?
Mr. Carollo: What is the increase going to be to?
Mr. Plummer: One dollar, four to five.
Mayor Ferret Read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 19-45(b) OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,
WHICH DEALS WITH FEES FOR FURNISHING REPORTS
THAT ARE PUBLIC RECORDS, BY PROVIDING FOR AN
INCREASE IN SAID FEES; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner
Perez and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
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43. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: CHANGE ZONING CLASSIFICATION 300-408 N.W.
31ST STREET, 3050 N.W. 3RD AVENUE (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
HEREIN) FROM RG-1/3 TO RG-2/4.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 19.
Mr. Plummer: What is that?
Mr. Gary: This is only for that Jose Mendez building that he wants
to put in a residential treatment thing.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes, do you recomend it? This happens to be, Mr.
Mayor, the presentation that was made by Jose Mendez before this
Commission. You are recommending it? I move it.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: I don't understand what this is.
Mr. Plummer: Do you remember Jose came in here with a proposition
of making residences up in the Wynwood area? n
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: The Zoning Board recommended approval of the
zoning change.
Mayor Ferre: This is something you are recommending?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I move it on first reading.
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves; Perez seconds item 19. Read the ordinance.
Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF
ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE
ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF APPROXIMATELY 300-
408 NORTHWEST 31ST STREET AND APPROXIMATELY
3050 NORTHWEST 3RD AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA,
(MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM
RG-1/3 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL (ONE & TWO FAMILY)
TO RG-2/4 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL MAKING FINDINGS;
AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON
PAGE NO. 21 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART
OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500 BY REFERENCE AND DES-
CRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300, THEREOF;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner
Perez and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
44. RECOMMEND TO MEL ADAMS (OF H.U.D.) THAT A 72-UNIT COMPLEX AT N.W.
3RD AVENUE IN WYNWOOD AREA BE NAMED AFTER JOSE MENDEZ, RECENTLY
DECEASED.
Mayor Ferre: Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Manager, you know we go about
naming a lot of things for a lot of people. A lot of them are big
heroes, like Roberto Clemente, George Washington, and what have you.
But every once in a while we ought to name these for the little guys,
like Jose Mendez. I would like to recommend that we recommend to Mel
Adams -we can't do this because it's not within our purview- but we
would like to recommend...these are what? 72 units?...that the complex
be named after Jose Mendez. I would like to so move.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 83-1143
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI RECOMMENDING TO MEL ADAMS (OF H.U.D.) THAT
THE 72-UNIT COMPLEX PRESENTLY REFERRED TO AS THE
WYNWOOD ELDERLY HOUSING PROJECT, LOCATED ON N.W.
3RD AVENUE, BE NAMED AFTER "JOSE MENDEZ", RECENTLY
DECEASED.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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45. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMENDING THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR TRUST AND
AGENCY FUND FUND ENTITLED: "RECREATION ACTIVITY INCREASING APPROPRIATED
FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME, PROFESSIONAL BOXING AND WRESTLING BOARD.
Mr. Plummer: Move item 20.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved and and seconded. Further discussion? Read the
ordinance on first reading. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 9478, ADOPTED
SEPTEMBER 8, 1982, BY AMENDING THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED
FOR THE TRUST AND AGENCY FUND ENTITLED: "RECREATION
ACTIVITY", INCREASING APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR THE
OPERATION OF SAME TO THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 TO
INCLUDE FUNDING TRANSACTIONS RESULTING FROM
APPROVED ACTIVITY OF THE PROFESSIONAL BOXING
AND WRESTLING BOARD, CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, and seconded by Commissioner Ca-
rollo and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission
and to the public.
46. AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE EMPLOYMENT OF THE LAW FIRM OF
STEEL HECTOR & DAVIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL FROM CLAIMS ARISING FROM
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on item number 22, authorizing the City Attorney
to continue the employement of Steel Hector Davis as counsel for the
Miami Convention Center. Why is the need for this, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, we have not closed out this project as of yet.
We are in the process of determining the final payments to be made
to the prime contractor.
Mayor Ferre: Do you recommend this?
Mr. Gary: Yes, sir.
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Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Perez: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Perez. Second? Is there a second?
Mr. Gary: We need this to protect our interest.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll on 22.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Perez,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1144
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
CONTINUE THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE LAW FIRM OF STEEL
HECTOR & DAVIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL REGARDING CLAIMS
AGAINST THE CITY ARISING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF
THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER; AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL
PAYMENT FOR THESE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000
ON A RETAINER BASIS; AUTHORIZING PAYMENT FOR THE
AFORESAID SERVICES FROM FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR AD-
MINISTRATIVE EXPENSES OF SAID CENTER CONSTRUCTION;
FURTHER PROVIDING THAT NO MONIES IN EXCESS OF THE
HEREIN AUTHORIZED SUM BE EXPENDED FOR SUCH SERVICES
UNLESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
47. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL
(ADA) TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 23, to submit an application for development
of A.D.A. to the South Florida Regional Planning Council for....
Mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Ferre: ....Southeast Overtown/Park West community redevelopment
area, pursuant so on, and so forth, up to $20,000.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Moved and seconded. Further discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1145
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT
AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL (ADA) TO THE
SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR THE
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AREA PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATE STATUTES 380.06 AND
AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF UP TO $20,000 FOR
APPLICATION FEES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
48. ALLOCATE $197,200 TO THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY FOR
ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES, FISCAL 83-84.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 24, allocating an amount of....
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: ....no to exceed $197,200 from the General Fund to the
Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority. I assume we'll get repaid for
that....
Mr. Plummer: That is a loan.
Mayor Ferre: ....once they collect their tax.
Mr. Gary: Subject to the collection of their tax.
Mayor Ferre: Subject to ... Further discussion? Moved....
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: ....by Plummer. Second by whom?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1146
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$197,200 FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE MIAMI
SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE
EXPENSES OF SAID AUTHORITY DURING THE REMAINDER OF
THE 1983-1984 FISCAL YEAR SUBJECT TO FULL REIMBURSEMENT
TO THE CITY FROM THE CONVENTION DEVELOPMENT TAX
RECEIPTS OR FROM ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING TO BE
IDENTIFIED; SAID ALLOCATED AMOUNT TO BE DISBURSED
BY THE CITY MANAGER ON AN AS -NEEDED BASIS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
49. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER $1,500,000 FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
TO SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT LAND ACQUISITION
FUND.
Mayor Ferre: Item 26, $1,500,000 from the Capital Improvement to the
Southeast Overtown/Park West Redevelopment land acquisition fund on a
temporary basis to fund the acquisition land within the nine block
phase I Southeast providing for repayment from the $11,000 General
Obligation Housing Bonds in fiscal year. What I guess that does is
that accelerates. Mr. Manager, what we are doing is we're taking
$1,500,000 and eventually repaying it from the Housing Bond issue,
is that right?
Mr. Gary: That is correct, Mr. Mayor. This permits us to buy land
from those willing owners who want to dispose of their property now
at a reasonable price. The longer you wait, the more it's going to
cost you. This is a....
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? Moved by Plummer. Second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: ....by Perez; further discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1147
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER
1.5 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND
TO THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT LAND ACQUISITION FUND, ON A TEMPORARY BASIS
TO FUND THE ACQUISITION OF LAND WITHIN THE NINE (9)
PHASE I SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT
AREA. PROVIDING FOR REPAYMENT OF SUCH TEMPORARY
TRANSFER UPON SALE OF UP TO 11 MILLION DOLLARS IN
GENERAL OBLIGATION HOUSING BONDS IN FISCAL YEAR
1984-85. REPURCHASE OF PROPERTY TO BE GUARANTEED
BY FORMER PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN A 24-MONTH PERIOD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
50. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT FOR
THE OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD.
Mayor Ferre: Expain 27 to me, Howard.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, techinically, this doesn't really have to come
to you, but I thought it was important because of the significance of
the Overtown Advisory Committee. When you approved the Park/West Overtown
_— Plan, you provided for input from the Overtown residents. This is Charlie
Johnson's group. This is just authorizing me to sign the memorandum of
agreement in terms of their participation, which basically says the
Overtown Advisory Board be recognized as the official Overtown redevelop-
ment monitoring agency, which means they are going to review all of the
plans. It lists seven points there. This is something similar to what
we did with D.D.A. and the the business people from downtown.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: It's been moved by Carollo and seconded by Plummer.
Further discussion? Call the roll.
DEC 81983
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1148
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER
INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
FORM ATTACHED HERETO, WITH THE OVERTOWN ADVISORY
BOARD TO PROVIDE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FOR ACTIVITIES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
51. URGE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF PROPOSED CLINICAL CENTER IN DADE COUNTY FOR
IMPLEMENTATION OF MIAMI HEART INSTITUTE'S "SYSTOLIC HYPERTENSION IN
THE ELDERLY PROGRAM".
Mayor Ferre: The next item is 29. I don't know what that is.
Mr. Plummer: I don't either.
Mayor Ferre: What is the Elderly Program in Hypertension?
Mr. Gary: This agency....
Mayor Ferre: Is this motherhood?
Mr. Gary: Yes, they basically need some kind of endorsement from the
local jurisdiction.
Mayor Ferre: Does that cost us money?
Mr. Gary: No, this will assist them in getting money to deal with
hypertension?
Mayor Ferre: And it comes from the Miami Heart Institute?
Mr. Gary: Exactly.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Plummer moves?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Perez seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1149
A RESOLUTION STRONGLY URGING COMMUNITY SUPPORT
OF THE PROPOSED CLINICAL CENTER IN DADE COUNTY
FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MIAMI HEART INSTITUTE'S
"SYSTOLIC HYPERTENSION IN THE ELDERLY PROGRAM".
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSL'NT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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52. ORDERING RESOLUTION - CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT - OVERTOWN
PHASE I, SR-5501-C.
Mayor Ferre: We are on item 32, city-wide sanitary sewer improvement.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo moves. Perez seconds. Further discussion?
Call the roll on 32.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1150
A RESOLUTION ORDERING CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT - OVERTOWN PHASE I, SR-5501-C DESIGNATING
THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL
BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS CITY-
WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT - OVERTOWN PHASE I,
SR-5501-C (CENTERLINE SEWER).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
53. APPROVE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN
ELDERLY MEALS FACILITY TO BE LOCATED IN CURTIS PARK, 1901 N.W.
24TH AVENUE.
Mayor Ferre: Take up item 33.
Mr. Plummer: Who is the firm selected?
Mr. Gary: Zyscovich and Grafton with Fraga Engineers and Maurice Gray
Consulting Engineers.
Mayor Ferre: O.K., is there a motion?
Mr. Plummer: No, no, what is the fee involved?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: How much is the fee?
Mr. Gary: We haven't negotiated that yet. We have to negotiate that.
This allows me to now negotiate with that firm.
Mr. Plummer: You will bring back to this Commission prior....
Mr. Gary: I have to bring back the agreement to you.
Mayor Ferre: But the firm that you are going to negotiate with is
Zyscovich and Grafton.
Mr. Gary: Exactly.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Perez seconds. Further discussion on
33? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1151
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SELECTION BY THE CITY
MANAGER OF THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS TO PROVIDE
ARCHITECTURAL/ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE DESIGN
AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ELDERLY MEALS FACILITY TO
BE LOCATED IN CURTIS PARK, 1901 N.W. 24TH AVENUE;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A PRO-
FESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT; DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO PRESENT A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT TO THE
CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL UTILIZING FUNDS FROM
THE FEDERAL JOBS BILL THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR
SAID PROJECT.
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(Here follows body of body of resolution, monitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
54. APPOINT LEONARD MELLON TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE MIAMI CABLE
ACCESS CORPORATION AND DEFER APPOINTMENT OF THE OTHERS TO A FUTURE
MEETING.
Mayor Ferre: All right, the next one that you have on your emergency
list is item 42. I'm going by the Manager's request on priority items.
He's on item 42. The three names that we have to recommend here are
Martin Anorga, Bill Perry, and Pat Skubish. There are five appointments.
These are three that we are recommending. Bill Perry is Black male,
Pat Skubish is White female, and Martin Anorga is Latin male. Who
recommended these five names, if I may ask?
Mr. Carollo: You can recommend anybody you want. We have to recommend
them. Right? So you put whomever you want.
Mr. Carollo: Can I make a suggestion to do what we have done in the
past when we have so many appointments, that each member of the Commission
goes ahead and appoints one.
Mayor Ferre: Do you have an appointment?
Mr. Carollo: Not at this point in time.
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to recommend Leonard Mellon, the Head of the
Crime Commission.
Mayor Ferre: All right, one of the names will be Mr. Leonard Mellon.
Who do you want to recommend, Demetrio?
Mr. Perez: I would like to make a recommendation at the next Commission
meeting.
Mayor Ferre: He'll wait for the next Commission meeting. You want to
wait for the next Commission meeting. I'll do the same thing.
Mr. Plummer: I don't want to wait.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, you only get one name. Is there anything
else that you need?
Mr. Plummer: Can I make a motion on that name?
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that Mr. Leonard Mellon be appointed to
that board.
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Mayor Ferre: Carollo seconds. Further discussion? Call the roll on
the appointment of Leonard Mellon.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption.
MOTION 83-1152
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING MR.
LEONARD MELLON AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF THE "MIAMI CABLE ACCESS CORPORATION", FOR A
TERM NOT TO EXCEED FOUR (4) YEARS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mr. Plummer: Ms.Smoller, would you please so notify Mr. Leonard
Mellon of his appointment?
Ms. Sue Smoller: I will.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
54.1 RESCINDING RESOLUTION 83-961 REGARDING CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENTS.
Mayor Ferre: There is a memo here from Donald Cather to Howard Gary,
which is a companion to item 71. The Department of Public Works
recommends adoption of resolution rescinding resolution 83-961,
passed October 25, for the construction of city-wide sanitary sewer
improvement of S.W. 16th Street, SR-5499-C.
Mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves. Perez seconds. Further discussion?
Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1152.1
A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 83-961
ENTITLED "A RESOLUTION ORDERING CITY-WIDE SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT - S.W. 16 STREET SR-5499-C AND
DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL
ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE
COST THEREOF AS CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVE-
MENT - S.W. 16 STREET SR-5499-C (CENTERLINE
SEWER)".
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
55. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION CONCERNING R.F.P.'S PUBLIC HEARING, ETC. FOR
THE DEVELOPMENT OF WATSON ISLAND.
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Mayor Ferre: Plummer, are you O.K. on this Watson Island thing?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have asked and I have read the new version
of it. Yes, I'm all right on Watson Island. Mr. Mayor, they had in
there a request for unified project developments.
Mayor Ferre: That doesn't mean anything.
Mr. Plummer: I know that doesn't mean anything. That's why I asked
they change it. Then it was changed on what we voted this morning.
- Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves that a resolution declaring that the most
advantageous method to develop certain improvements on City -owned land
may be by a unified development project authorized by the City Manager
to develop a request for proposal and setting a public hearing for
10:00 A.M. January 5th to consider said request for proposal for
cultural entertainment facilities to be located on approximately 40
acres parcel of City -owned land located on Watson Island. Second t;
Demetrio Perez. Are you ready to vote on it?
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, do you have a second?
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: I wish to read into the record where it states that at
the conclusion of the public hearing, the City Commission, if it is
disposed to proceed to authorize the issuance of the request, if we
are not disposed to proceed, it is done and over.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I want that understood in the record.
Mayor Ferre: J.L., three members of this Commission can do that anytime
they want.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., I'm just really trying to make it very, very clear.
Mayor Ferre- Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 84-1153
A RESOLUTION DECLARING THAT THE MOST ADVANTEGEOUS
METHOD TO DEVELOP CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ON CITY -
OWNED LAND MAY BE A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT,
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP A REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS (RFP), AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING
ON JANUARY 5, 1984, AT 10:00 A.M., TO CONSIDER SAID
RFP FOR CULTURAL, RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT
FACILITIES TO BE LOCATED ON AN APPROXIMATELY 40-
ACRE PARCEL OF CITY -OWNED LAND LOCATED ON WATSON
ISLAND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
56. AUTHORIZE AND DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH SAN
FRANCISCO PUFFS AND STUFF, INC. TO SELL FOOD, BEVERAGES, ETC.
AT THE NEW YEAR'S EVE ORANGE BOWL PARADE ROUTE.
Mayor Ferre: The Puffs, the whiffs and the puffs. Are you a Puff?
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask for the record, is the San Francisco Puffs
and Stuff here?
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Kouchalakas approached my office and I
think every one of us here knows that Mr. Kouchalakas is the Greek
boys have done this festival for longer that I have probably been
in the City of Miami. The problem, if there is a problem, is that
this went out to competitive bidding. It is my understanding from
the Administration that a group from Ft. Lauderdale gave a much higher
or higher return to the City than that of the Kouchalakas and Company,
for better words -I don't know the name of the company.
Mr. Peter Kouchalakas: Paramount Concession.
Mr. Plummer: Paramount Restaurant and Soda Shop formerly. Mr. Kouchalakas
came to my office and said, you know, what can we do? I said, Mr.
Kouchalakas, you can come to this Commission if you can prove that
the Administration has made a mistake in their recommendation, if
you can prove that this firm is not qualified, if you can prove anything,
we will listen. That's where it is now. Mr. Kouchalakas said he would
be here as he is with his bodyguards. Mr. Kouchalakas, as far as I
know, sir, we're willing to listen.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners all, thank you for giving
me this opportunity. My name is Peter Kouchalakas, President of the
Paramount Concessions, 3900 N.W. 9 Street, Miami. I apoligize for
taking your time, but I know that you've been working very hard as
you've been here since this morning; so, I'll try to make this as
brief as possible. I've sat at meetings, such as you've been doing
here and I know how tedious they can become. So, I want to say from
the outset that I appreciate your attention. As a concerned citizen,
I feel that resolution number 75 is not in the best interest. I
repeat again, is not in the best interest of the City of Miami. To
give San Francisco Puffs and Stuff of Broward and Peter Chronis an
exclussive concession rights along the parade route is definitely not
in the City of Miami's public interest. The basis of my statement
is that Paramount Concessions has had this contract for the last twelve
years. No one bids on this contract. On two occasions, we lost the
money that we put up from the outset because of rain. The Paramount
Concessions has had the Junior Orange Bowl Parade for 16 years and
we continue to have it. Puffs and Stuff has no parade experience of
this type, which is highly complex. Ernie Siler, who told me to come
with brother Poulos here to his office when Sam Crow passed away and
offered us this parade. He said that Sam Crow had it for 15 years
for $500, but he was not interested in the money. He was interested
only in one thing. That is service to the public. That is the reason
why I am here now. It wasn't the bid he was interested in. He was
interested in the people, who would do the job correctly. The parade
on New Year's Eve is a very complex thing. It's not just putting up some
trailers and some stands to sell food. It takes a lot to do with the
police, with the fire, with the parade route, and the orderly procession
of the floats and the bands. This what Ernie Siler was talking about
when he said, "This is the priority, not what you sell or what you do
with the food and the beverage." Paramount Concession have had the
Orange Bowl Stadium from 1939 to 1952. We have participated in the parade
along with Sam Crow and Ernie Siler in the '30s, the '40s, the '50s
and the '60s. As I stated, we have been exclusive bidders the past
twelve years and no one has come around except this particular time.
The bid for $500 from the beginning, we have bid this year up to
$3,200. Paramount Concessions has cooperated with the City Manager's
office with every demand made as to money, the regulations, the insurance,
and the downtown business people. I'm sure that Jack Eads and Don Stuart
will attest to not receiving any major complaints pertaining to Paramount
Concessions. The San Francisco Puffs and Stuff of Broward County, Mrs.
Grimm has had cookies stand experience. Peter Chronis has shish kebab
experience; shis kebab, which we would not allow on the parade route,
because it is dangerous and it is a fire hazard. Peter Chronis, who
is involved in this particular thing, has a history of various business
involvements. I say this with tongue in cheek, and I will not expound
on it. As far as Mrs. Grimm is concerned, I think that brother Poulos
here can state the fact that she approached him to get into the Miami
Dade County Youth Fair. Mr. Poulos is the Inspector General. He
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Mr. Kouchalakas (Con't): refused her to have a cookie concession on
that property because there was already somebody on that property.
She, I feel, got her revenge in regard to this particular bid. I've
lived in the City of Miami and Coral Gables for 38 years. My partners,
four of them have lived in the Cite of Miami for over 50 years.
Mayor Ferre: Wind it up. Tell it like it is. You don't have to read
it. Tell it like it is, like you used to do in that classroom with all
those kids.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Commissioners, the time is of essence. I do not feel
at this time with only a couple of weeks away as the Miami Police Department
has called on me to meet with them as soon as possible in order for us to
get this under way. I feel that the Commission should recommend for
reconsideration. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: All right, let's hear from the other side. You have
equal time. He took about seven minutes, so you have seven minutes.
Mrs. Sharon Grim: Sharon Grim, San Francisco Puffs and Stuff, licensed
whole sale commisaries at 55300 State Road 84 in Ft. Lauderdale. We
presently -it is true- we sell cookies. We vend them at the Orange
Bowl. To this date, we have already generated $36,000 is sales in
the Orange Bowl, which this City has received 31%; to it would be
$10,000. We also participate with five booths in the Coconut Grove
Art Show, with not just cookies, but three food items. We've done
sausage boat shows with beverages. We have encountered a large area
in the whole realm of food. We have an exclusive handling with
Vizcaya with the food rights.
Mr. Plummer: Can I interrupt you?
Mrs. Grim: Surely.
Mr. Plummer: We are talking about a parade. We are talking about New
Year's Eve. I think what we need to hear is what experience have you
had in that field. That's what we are talking about.
Mrs. Grim: We did the parade last year with...Number one, I'd like to
set the record straight. You know, this is not a revengeful situation.
Pete... Tom Poulas has offered to me if I was interested in Dade County
Youth Fair, he'd like to help me get in. It did not work out and this
is in no way any sort of revenge. We did not know if they would bid
on it again. Somebody approached me that it was open for bid so we
thought it would be a nice business involvement. The Orange Bowl
Stadium is in itself very similar to a parade atmosphere in that you
have three hours to stock, sell, vend, coordinate. I am sure you
can check our references with the Orange Bowl. We do an exceptional
job. We did the Orange Bowl Parade last year. We did the Junior
Orange Bowl Parade last year. We had trailers at each.
Mr. Plummer: You said you did?
Mrs. Grim: We had a trailer at each. We paid Tom Poulos $300 for
trailer space last year.
Mr. Plummer: You had eight trailers?
Mrs. Grim: Yes, eight trailers; so we know the working of the parade,
the hours, and I assure you, it is complex and I will not undermine
_ him by saying it is not, but it is nothing that we haven't come across.
Mr. Chronis has had 20 years in the restaurant and food service business.
He can turn out shish kebabs. He also does sausage pizza and a number
of other items. He can turn out two sandwishes every five seconds.
We are used to large numbers in crowds. We are used to dealing with
between 300,000 and 500,000 people. We know it is needed to accomodate
the Health Department, the Fire Department. We feel confident that we
can do it. Otherwise, we would not have put this bid in. That is
all that I have to say.
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Mr. Carollo: I have a question to start off with. How many stands,
trailers, locations do you usually have in these parades?
Mr. Kouchalakas: Between 45 and 50 trailers.
Mr. Carollo: Between 45 and 50 trailers; that's a heck of a lot more
than one trailer.
Mrs. Grim: These are all sub -contracted, because I know that we were
one of the subcontractors.
Mr. Plummer: The last page of your back-up materials shows 28 authorized
locations.
Mr. Carollo: Twenty-eight authorized locations?
Mr. Plummer: That's what I'm reading from the back-up materials.
Mr. Carollo: I would imagine, J.L., that if there are 28 authorized
locations, they could have several trailers or stands placed in there.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: You show 28 authorized locations.
Mr. Carollo: Is that correct?
Mr. Plummer: Do some locations have one, two, and three trailers?
Mr. Carollo: In other words, you have 28 authorized locations. In
each location you could put more than one trailer and one stand.
That's where they get the 45 or 50, plus additional moving vendors.
Let me tell you what I see. Number one, the way this was bid out
was wrong. There should have been some specifications put up for
experience. The difference of what we are talking about for the
City to acquire is minimal. We are only talking about a difference
of a couple of thousand dollars that the City is going to make from
one company to another, so as far as I am concerned, that is very
minimal for the type of budget that we have. What is of more concern
to me, is that we are going to have a qualified corporation that is
really going to be able to handle the job or not. That is my biggest
concern.
Mrs. Grim: Well, I don't know if you all have copies of all my references
in front of you, but I know personally all the people that we work, that
they've contacted —we have excellent credentials. We are a full-time
business. You can check with their businesses. I know that Tom Poulas
is a gasoline inspector. We do this full-time. This is our livelihood.
It is not a moonlight. It is not a part-time job.
Mr. Carollo: I'm not questioning your experience in individual stands
in different locations, whether it's been the Orange Bowl or other
places. What concerns me is that the question was raised of how many
stands or trailers have you had, since you made mention that you had
worked this. According to what you stated, you stated that you had
only one trailer in this affair.
Mrs. Grim: They don't have any trailers. They subcontract them all
out. I know all the vendors.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I beg your pardon.
Mr. Carollo: I realize that. But it takes, and correct me if I am
wrong, it takes a heck of a lot of work to coordinate something of
that nature.
Mrs. Grim: I know all the vendors. I can have the same. I work
with these people all year, not just for three festivals. I work
all year long with them. I can get every single vendor he has, plus
more and I feel more quality vendors than he had. I do not plan on
attacking his experience or his livelihood at all, but since they've
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Mrs. Grim (Con't): done it to us, I will say I know all the vendors
he has. I can have them plus some, because we do this every single
day of the year, seven days a week. We do this full-time.
Mr. Carollo: The difference is while we're getting "you can" from
you, all that I've seen is that the experience is not there to show
that you have been able to run this kind of affair, while the experience
is there to show us that they have been able to run this kind of affair
in the past.
Mrs. Grim: Number one, what experience did he have before he ever got
the first parade he had? Number two, we have vending experience. We
have festival experience. You are saying you have a short amount of
time. Well, that was the City opted to put this out for bid. It
seems to be a little poor judgement in not giving everyone enough time.
But we still feel that we can do the proper job given the chance in
the amount of time alloted to us.
Mr. Carollo: I think it's only fair to let them speak now.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Mr. Commissioner, I'll be very honest with you.
Mayor Ferre: I'll give each side three more minutes, then we vote.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Last year in the Coral Gables parade I helped the
lady to even hook up the tanks for Coca Cola, and she didn't know how
even to do that. When she says that we do not have this all year long,
I don't know what happened to the contract for the Coral Gables Jr.
Orange Bowl Parade, Miami -Dade Community College, the North
stadium, we still have that, the Youth Fair, we have that all year long.
the Dade County School Board, we have that, we have the J.F.K. Health
Center. So I'll say that our experience of 44 years in this particular
contract that we have with all these organizations certainly prove that
this time I am sure, when I stand before you and tell you that it's
impossible for this organization that is in opposition to us because
of a situation that happened to Mr. Poulos here at the Dade County Youth
Fair, who is responsible for hundreds of stands and inspections. Because
he refused her to go into that... Did she say anything to you?
Mr. Tom Poulos: Commissioners and City Manager, my name is Tom Poulas.
I live at 1521 S.W. 12 Avenue. I'm also connected with the State of
Florida and the Department of Agriculature and the State of Florida
transferred my duties to the Dade County Youth Fair for twenty some
odd days in March and April. I am the quality food inspector there.
There I have to foresee over 250 trailers and food and beverage stands.
This lady, Mrs. Grim, called me a few months and she asked if I could
get her into the Dade County Youth Fair. I said I would try my best.
I went to see the Concession Manager, because my job is only quality
control. I can't sell stands there. I saw Connie Fernandez; she is
in charge of the concessions. I said I had a young lady; shF is a pretty
good operator, she sells cookies and I had her in my parade last year,
but the only thing I know that she sells good are cookies. Would you
please give her a chance to sell cookies at the Dade County Youth
Fair? She said, "Mr. Poulos, I would love to do it for you, but just
yesterday I signed a contract with another lady that sells cookies, so
I don't want to duplicate my orders." So I called Mrs. Grim up that
night and I said I tried my best, but Mrs. Fernandez already has someone
who sells cookies. I think she got highly upset because I couldn't
pull any strings. I can't pull strings because I'm only the food
quality inspector there. Thank you.
Unidentified Spk: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, years ago when we first
started, we ourselves ran all 28 stands and we had around 110 people
working with us. We ran all those stands. So....
Mr. Carollo: Sorry, your time expired.
Mr. Kouchalakas: The Coca Cola Company now is not having special
events and they no longer have trailers....
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Mr. Carollo: Peter, your time has expired. I'm sorry. You will have
three minutes now for rebuttal.
Mrs. Grim: We have presently at the Orange Bowl 30 stands. We have
between 40 and 50 vendors working for us every game. Some games are
back to back, U.M. and Dolphin games. Some games are 8:00 o'clock
evening games and a 4:00 o'clock game the next day. That would mean
we would have to stay at the Orange Bowl around the clock to coordinate
and have enough products to do the job right. And we did it and we
got it done properly.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, are you finished?
Mrs. Grim: I would just like to stand on our credentials. I think we
have the experience. We outbid them; and I really think we should be
given the chance to prove ourselves.
Mayor Ferre: O.K.
Mr. Plummer: The only thing I want to say is a comment. From the
things that I've heard, if the vendors are paying $300 for concession
stand and there are 28 of them, that's $8,400 and the only thing the
City is getting back is $7,500. Why in the hell are we putting this
thing out?
Unidentified Speaker: That's not true.
Mrs. Grim: I have a cancelled check. I paid $300.
Unidentified Speaker: That's not true because some concessions only
pay $100. It's all according to how big the stand is.
Mr. Kouchalakas: My own son has two trailers there, Mr. Commissioner,
and he works them.
Mr. Carollo: Howard... Howard Grassie.
Mr. Gary: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: I knew I'd get a reaction from him. Howard, who from
the Administration has been handling this?
Mr. Gary: I'm still smirking over what I started to call you. This
is handled in conjuction with the Parks Department, primarily the
lease management office.
Mr. Carollo: You're smarter than Grassie. He would have said it.
That's why he's not here; you are.
Mr. Gary: Can I just respond to some of the things?
Mr. Carollo: Sure, Howard, what I would like to, before you do that,
if we could get up here the person from your Administration that has
been dealing with both parties. Can you go up to the mike, sir, and
identify yourself?
Mr. Don Stuart: Don Stuart, City Property Manager.
Mr. Carollo: Don, when this is put out to bid, were there any specifics
on experience, background that were placed on the bidding requirement?
Mr. Stuart: Yes, in the R.F.P. there was a request to list their
experience.
Mr. Carollo: Was there any specific experience that we requested that
had to be met as far as experience for parades?
Mr. Stuart: Not specifically parades. "Person or persons interested
in submitting this proposal have or have not previous any concession
or licenses for operation of a concession or contract or a lease for
this type of event."
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Mr. Carollo: Have you done any personal checking into the qualifications,
background of both groups?
Mr. Stuart: Of course, Paramount has done it, as they say, for 12 years,
and we've never had any complaints. So we were well acquainted with
their performance. I did call all three of the references for San
Francisco Puffs and Stuff because I did not know them. Thev all
responded. I also asked them to respond to me by letter, so we could
have that in file. I have not received those as yet, but the responses
from their references were good.
Mr. Carollo: As far as the experience that the City has had with
Paramount according to what you are stating for the record, it has
been a positive experience.
Mr. Stuart: Very much.
Mr. Carollo: Have we had any problem with them during those twelve years?
Mr. Stuart: No problems that I have ever been aware of.
Mr. Carollo: Howard... Thank you, sir. He wanted to say something.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Commission, we went out for bid
on this particular contract and Paramount was out -bid. Not only were
they out -bid, they wer out -bid in an overwhelming manner. The
experiences of the people who out -bid Paramount, regardless of whether
the motive, as demonstrated or as expressed by the people, was that
they don't like somebody or they did to get back at somebody, that is
not a criteria for evaluation.
Mr. Carollo: I agree. It's irrelevant.
Mr. Gary: Secondly, the experience San Francisco Puffs and Stuff is
of such that it may not be able to handle or have experience in terms
of having large parades, but they do have experience in terms of handling
large people. I think it is a philosophical question that we must raise
particularly in terms of the philosophy that this City Commission has
adopted time and time again with regard to allowing people who have
not been afforded opportunities to have opportunities. I'm talking
about minority participation. To say that you have never had any
experience, therefore, you should never get a job, you would never
have a job and the same people would get a job over and over again.
I think here that is not the case. They have had to some degree some
experience, not in terms of parades, but as he says they have been
doing it for the last twelve years. How do you get in to doing something
unless you are permitted opportunity. It is my recommendation strongly
that San Francisco Puffs and Stuff be granted the contract. We have
enough safeguards with regard to the agreements that we will sign with
them in terms of performance bonds and I think it's in the best interest
of the City to proceed forward with the highest bidder.
Mr. Plummer: How much is the performance bond?
Mr. Carollo: It's to be determined. In other words, there's no set
figure on the performance bond. It is to be determined.
Mr. Gary: That's to be negotiated based on out risks, the amount of
money they're going to make. Obviously you can't ask somebody to put
in a performance bond that is equal or greater than the amount they
are going to get. So, it's to be negotiated.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that's going to be negotiated, that part.
Mr. Perez: What about the price they charge to the public? It's the
same price?
Mr. Plummer: That's in here.
Mr. Gary: That's in there.
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Mr. Carollo: The point I agree with the Manager on is that whatever
the reasons for doing it is irrelevant. They have every right to
bid just like anybody else has. That argument is completely irrelevant
to me. The area that is relevant to me when we are talking about here
is that they have a bid. The City would make the first year $4,700
exactly on their bid. It's a higher bid. The bottom line is, though,
that this is probably the number one event of the year for the City of
Miami. What you can't place a dollar value in is the kind of service,
the kind of impact that might have on the hundreds of thousands of
people that watch that parade route. A majority of those people are
usually out-of-towners that come here just for that. So that's a big
concern to me. Because this is the type of service that's going to
be dealing directly with the public and they are going to be having
more direct confrontation with a lot of the tourists that will be
coming down to see that parade than just about anyone else. That
is of great concern to me. This is why I was going into the area
of experience relevant to this parade, that experience, as far as
to handling stands and other type of activities. My question to the
City Attorney is what options do we have based on what we have before
us and on the bid process that we have.
Mayor Ferre: The question was asked of the City Attorney by Commissioner
Carollo, what legal recourse does the City have in correcting this matter.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: What legal recourse the City has in what? In
addressing the matter?
Mayor Ferre: In other words, if he doesn't want to give it to Puffs
and Stuff....
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I think you have to go with the R.F.P. that was
put out, Commissioner Carollo, and particularly the section 7 of paragraph
7 thereof, which says in relevant part that in making such determination,
the City's consideration shall include, but be limited to the following:
a) financial, b) experience financial qualifications and professional
reputation of proposers. So, you really have to apply the criteria that
the R.F.P. set out for the prospective bidders and on which these two
proposers relied.
Mr. Carollo: The financial is to be set by the Manager.
Mayor Ferre: I want to tell you, Joe is trying to help. J.L. would
like to help. I'd like to help. I don't see what we can legally do.
I really don't know what in the world we can do without going off on
the deep end on this.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I think for the time being of essence, Mr. Mayor,
I think we should have this year continue from last year and put out
to bid again, if you wish. But as I stated here in my last paragraph,
Paramount is willing to negotiate and adjust reasonably and accordingly,
if necessary.
Mayor Ferre: Pete, we went out and put two bids out. You bid something.
They bid three times as much. I'd like to be able to give it to you.
I really want to say... you tell me how to do it? I mean, how can I
legally do it?
Mr. Plummer: It's just this simple, as far as I see it. Everybody
knows that job that Paramount has done and it's been a good job. Let's
put the cookies on top of the table. There is no question that they
have done a good job. They have the experience. Unfortunately, as
it stands before us today, they were not the high return to the City.
I have to tell you with Puffs and Stuff or whatever it is, I am very
leary of your ability to handle the situation because I kept asking
you the same question: What parades have you done? To me, I'm not
a vendor.
Mrs. Grim: We have done, we have participated in parades, but exclusive
parade rights. I think when Paramount ceases and you open the bid up,
you will not find many people with exclusive parade rights. If you do,
they will be small parades that could never match the experience that
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Mr. Plummer: No, that's not what I'm saying either.
Mrs. Grim: If you are looking for a parade experience, you won't find
it.
Mr. Plummer: I'm saving that you do not have the track record....
Mrs. Grim: Twenty years!
Mr. Plummer: Well, you start, to me...and I'm not a vendor, please,
you know, as me how to peddle my caskets, I'll tell you, but don't
ask me how to serve a hot dog. You start on a small parade and then
you go to a bigger and a bigger and the climax is the....
Mrs. Grim: But we are local. We are Miami and Broward. There are
no other parades. We did a parade in Ft. Lauderdale. It was a small
parade. It's not worth mentioning.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I'm not arguing with you.
Mrs. Grim: This is the largest parade. If you don't give someone else
the right to bid on this one, you will not find another person in this
area who qualify for the parade because they are not letting anyone else
bid on it.
Mr. Plummer: How many bidders did we have total?
Mr. Carollo and Mr. Gary: Two.
Mr. Plummer: Onlv two?
Mr. Gary: Only two.
Mr. Plummer: Was it open? Was there public advertising? Request for
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Mr. Gary: Open, advertisement, sealed bids.
Mr. Plummer: No, not he sealed bids. Was it open to the general public
by general advertising?
Mr. Gary: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: In the local media?
Mr. Gary: That is correct, two papers.
Mr. Plummer: Did you mail any bids out beside the two are that
successful?
Mr. Gary: I'd like to make just one final comment. I'd like to use
as an example one of my department directors. That is people such
as San Francisco Stuff and Puffs, whatever it is called, they start
out on a small basis and a medium basis and they are now building on
a large basis. That's the same as my Police Chief. He started out
as a private, a sergeant, lieutenant, and a captain; then he moved
from captain up to chief. If he started out with those experiences
down where he showed himself, he demonstrated his experience to head
a major department. This is no different from the situation that
we have before us today. The way you get experience is you down the
trenches. They have done that. Now they are willing to go up the
big leagues because they have done the small and the minor leagues.
We recommend that we go with San Francisco Puffs and Stuff, Inc.
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Mr. Kouchalakas: We live in the Cite of Miami and Coral Gables, Mister....
Mr. Gary: Coral Gables is not the Citv of Miami.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I say City of Miami for over 50 years. We pay taxes
here. That, I think, is a vital point and it certainly is relevant
in regards to what we are doing.
Mr. Plummer: Pete, I love you. I love you, all of you.
Mr. Gary: That has nothing to do with the issue.
Mr. Plummer: God knows how many years I have known you. But Buddy,
that is why we have bidding procedures. Either we are going to have
procedures and we are going to stick to them, or you know, let's throw
them out! I just don't know if there was any way in God's green earth,
I would help you, and you know that.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Well, I read the contract and it states that the
Commission is the final result of anything that comes up before it.
In mentions it ten different times in regards to whether the Commission
can take it or leave it. Therefore, I rest on that.
Mr. Poulos: Mr. Commissioner, let me just say one word. One of your
fellow Commissioners said a little while ago, "This is the 50th anniversary
of the Orange Bowl Parade and the Orange Bowl game." This is a highly
important event. The reason for all these years nobody bid on this
parade, I'm going to tell you frankly, they don't know how to do it.
You have to have experience. We have the experience. My father had it
in the '40s, the 50s, and the 60s. My partners and I have had it since
1966. So nobody wants to do it because they don't know how to do it.
If we are not there, the City of Miami is going to be highly embarrassed
this year because it's the 50th anniversary; and you can't believe how
many ex -Miami U. people from out of State are going to come to this game.
Mr. Plummer: Tom, give me one reason that this firm is not qualified.
I have not heard.
Mr. Poulos: I'm going to tell you. Last year, this lady called me up
and I gave her one trailer. She sold hot dogs, drinks, and cookies
at the Coral Gables Jr. Orange Bowl parade. You are familiar with that
parade. We've had it for 16 years now. This lady did a good job on
cookies, no doubt about it. She is a good cookie lady. But on the
Coca Cola, she couldn't even change a tank of Coke and I had to get
her the trailer through Coca Cola Company. Then I sold her the rights
for downtown and she had one trailer downtown and she had some small
cookie stands. So, she is not qualified to do a parade a big as this.
You know yourself, Miami is a big City. The parade is probably going
to have 300,000 people there. It is a highly sophisticated parade.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, the determination of qualifications cannot be
made by an opponent. That has been made by us.
Mayor Ferre: I'd love to continue discussing this for another hour,
because this is really a lot of fun, but....
Mr. Kouchalakas: You've been very kind, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: It might be fun for you, but it's not for me.
Mayor Ferre: I really think we need to decide. We need to either
fish or cut bait. It's just that way. So, I'm open for a motion.
Make your decision. We've talked this one through. We know what
the issues are.
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Mr. Carollo: How many days in advance is needed -and I'm addressing
myself to both groups- how many days in advance do you need to prepare
for your vendors and everything else.
Mrs. Grim: I would say we have to start immediately. It takes three
weeks just to get the buttons that are referred to in the contract
made up that they want our vendors to wear. We would need to start
like tomorrow.
Mr. Carollo: It takes about three weeks?
Mr. Kouchalakas: Commissioner Carollo, the Police Department called
me last week in order to get with them because I'm already a week
late to get in regards to the uniforms, the buttons,
the novelties, the whole thing. This is important in regards to
downtown businessmen, as to where the trailers are placed. We've
gone through this to where we have it finalized to where we know what
we are doing, as Tom says. I think that we're late already. We're
late already, and only with our experience do I feel, and with my
statement at the beginning where I said that they are not right now
qualified to do it. They might be next year or the following year.
But right now is of essence.
Mayor Ferre: Members of the Commission, we have to make a decision.
So make your motions, please, so that we can move along. I'm not
telling you what to move, but move it. It's not going to go away.
Mr. Carollo: It's not going to wait, Mr. Mayor, but I think our main
concern should be that this is the largest event that we hold in the
City of Miami on any given year. We just can't....
Mayor Ferre: In any given years, this is the biggest that we are going
to have ever, probably.
Mr. Carollo: I've never been much of a gambler. I don't like to shoot
craps or something and see what comes out. At the same time, we've had
a process. I just hate to go against the process, even though that I
feel that the R.F.P. should have been much more extensive than what it
was. I don't want to get into a four -minute joint venture on this, but
at the same time, this might be big enough where we can have two people
possibly working it, at least guarantying that if one company falls
short of the expectations, the other would be there, and maybe these
people ... Who knows? Maybe they might show us that they can do it.
Mayor Ferre: But that is something that they would have to do themselves.
We can't do that.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question, Mr. City Attorney, you know we...
this is going to come to a legal problem, obviously. If we don't go
with the recommended bidder, how can you defend this thing in court?
That's what you are talking about. I mean if I were a top cookie
salesman, I ... Mr. City Attorney?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I'm thinking, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: You're not wearing a bow tie, are you?
Mayor Ferre: If he's wearing a bow tie, he has problems.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: I think it would be very tough.
Mayor Ferre: Everybody, look....
Mr. Plummer: You want a motion? I'll make your motion. I'll look
my friends straight in the eye to uphold the bidding procedures of this
City, period. I can't make any other motion. I'm sorry. I asked you
to give me a something to disqualify them. I have not heard it. The
City procedures and the bidding procedures. If there is integrity in
them, we have to uphold them. I can't do anything else. I so make
that in the form of a motion that we follow the recommendation of
the Manager.
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Mayor Ferre: Plummer, wait a moment. We have a motion. The motion
is that the Manager's recommendation be followed. Is there a second?
That is that the bid procedure be followed the way it's been presented.
Going once. Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Something, Mr. Mayor, that I would like to clarify first
is what kind of minority participation do we have in both companies.
Mayor Ferre: Well, there is a woman.
Mr. Plummer: You have three Greeks. They're all minorities.
Mrs. Grim: At my 40 vendors at the Miami Orange Bowl, I have mixture
Blacks, Whites, Hispanics.
Mr. Gary: Well, I think what he's talking about in terms of your
corporation. I think he wants to know the ownership of the corporation.
Mrs. Grim: Us personally?
Mr. Perez: Yes, the ownership.
Mr. Gary: In San Francisco Puffs and Stuff, how many minorities do you
have in there?
Mayor Ferre: Is it the three of you that own it? Who owns the company?
Mrs. Grim: We do.
Mayor Ferre: The two of you or the three of you.
Mrs. Grim: Yes, the two of us. Pete Chronis is in the bid individually.
Mr. Gary: You are a minority. You are a female.
Mayor Ferre: You, as a woman, are a minority.
Mr. Perez: Do you have any Hispanics, Blacks as owners of the company?
Mrs. Grim: Working for us, yes.
Mr. Perez: Working, but not as the owner?
Mrs. Grim: In the company, no. The company is my husband and I.
Mr. Perez: And you?
Mr. Kouchalakas: Yes, we have hundreds that are working in this thing
that are....
Mrs. Grim: Working for them.
Mayor Ferre: And the ownership is a minority because you are all Greek.
Mr. Kouchalakas: That's right. I was principal of a school that had
a lot of minorities, like 97%.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, this man just ran out and got qualified
as a Greek.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I will agree to the fact that we will run this
particular parade this year and let the bids go out for next year,
because I feel that this seriousness of the parade is going to be a
showplace for the City of Miami. I cannot see it being done, I can't
even believe it, let alone, hear it that the City of Miami, you
Commissioners are going to allow someone who has never had any experience
with this type of thing. I know that it says into the specs that they
can be changed by the City Commission and it is up to the City Commission
to rule as they see fit in regards to this particular situation. I'm
sure that the City Attorney will so state.
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Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, Pete, I can't let that go by the board.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you a question. Is there any way we can get
both of you parties together to joint venture this thing?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, excuse me, I want to correct that last statement.
I'm scared that's the avenue that Pete ... Mr. K. is going under. That
is not the case, Mr. K. Under a bidding procedure, this Commission is
duty bound to take the highest and best bid. We are duty bound by
that, sir. Unless you can give a qualification to show that the
opposite is unqualified.
Mavor Ferre: That's the law. Isn't it?
Mr. Plummer: That's bidding procedure. We're talking about,this is
a minute, little thing as far as $7,500; but as far as the bidding and
integrity of the bidding procedure, the same thing applies to multi-
million dollar projects. You know, I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. We
have rules and we have to....
Mr. Kouchalakas: Would experience be a criteria?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Whatever is in the R.F.P.
Mayor Ferre: Experience is a criteria.
Mr. Poulos: And we have it.
Mayor Ferre: But it is not, you see, the problem is that it would have
required a predetermination by the Administration that they are not
qualified. But once they are given the right to bid, it presumes that
they are qualified to bid it. Otherwise, they can't be approved.
See, the problem that we have is this. You have four members of this
Commission that want to very badly to give you this contract, Pete.
The problem is that I think Plummer is right. I don't see legally how
we can do it.
Mr. Poulos: Mr. Mayor, years ago we bid on the concessions at the
Orange Bowl Stadium, up to 1950 or 1952. At that time, the City of
Miami said all bids do not have to be the highest bidder. It has
to be the best bidder.
Mr. Plummer: The highest and best.
Mr. Poulos: No, the best bidder.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, let me tell you exactly what the wording is,
because we changed it.
Mr. Poulos: Maybe you changed it.
Mr. Plummer: "The highest and most responsible," that's the exact
legal wording.
Mayor Ferre: So there would have to be some very firm... look, I think
we could have given you this contract if the Manager had recommended it
- and said, "Technically, they are not qualified and therefore, I recommend
you get the contract." That's one way of doing it. The other way of
doing it. The other way of doing it is if you can prove here that they
are not qualified and they cannot do it. How did you prove it? I have
not heard you prove it.
Mr. Poulos: We proved it, Mayor.
Mr. Kouchalakas: We proved it because this lady here is only familiar
with cookies. They only had one trailer last year. A person that
involved home-made cookies, how can they run an Orange Bowl parade as
big as this? It stands to reason they can't do it.
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Mayor Ferre: I have a feeling he may be right about this and we're
going to be embarrassed!
Mr. Kouchalakas: I know I'm right, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: This could have been a simple thing, had the Manager put
in the R.F.P. that you must have worked three major parades. They
could not have qualified, or if he had put in there no cookie salesman.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Mr. Plummer, the Manager has not spent one minute
discussing this, not only this year or last year or the previous year
in regard to this thing.
Mayor Ferre: Look, we have been an hour on this thing. We have to move.
It's almost 6:00 o'clock. All these children are crying here. We have
to move. Let's go one way or the other. That motion doesn't get a second
now, let's see if there is another motion.
Mr. Plummer: Try another one.
Mr. Perez: If we do not take an action today, what is the....
Mayor Ferre: We have to take action. We have a parade coming. We
have to decide this one way or the other. Make your decision, please.
We have to decide.
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my motion. I've been insulted long enough.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, just for the record, so that we can have this
clearly, I would, if it had gotten a second, so the record reflect
I'm not going to let you hang there alone, I would have voted with
the motion. O.K.? But the point is obviously, it doesn't have
a second.
Mr. Perez: I second Commisssioner Plummer's motion.
Mr. Carollo: What the ordinance states is the highest....
Mr. Plummer: ....and most responsible....
Mr. Carollo: ....highest and most responsible.
Mr. Kouchalakas: They are not qualified.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you have one that is the highest. You have another
that is the most responsible. It's Joe's logic.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Give me an out, Pete.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I'd like to. I feel that this is so important, I
wouldn't be here. I've never come before the City Commission, except
to be on it. I wouldn't be here to say anything except that I feel
strongly that they do not have the experience to put on this particular
parade this year. As far as I'm concerned, I would like....
Mayor Ferre: See, you are an interested party, Peter.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I would like to see this for us to handle it this
year and if you think and the City Manager thinks, that they can
handle it, let them handle it for the rest of their lives, as far
as we're concerned. But we're not going to disgrace you, Mr. Mayor,
nor you, Mr. Plummer, nor you Mr. Perez, nor you, Mr. Carollo. We
are not going to disgrace you by having this parade the best parade,
because there are going to be a lot of people looking in on us. It's
the University of Miami, which I'm happy to be a graduate of, that's
going to be also involved in this particular time. So I would say
this, that the Commission can allow us to extend our contract this
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Mr. Kouchalakas (Con't): year. They have in the past. Then, if they
want to bid next year the way they are, I don't know if we'll bid or not.
But I think that is the only way out, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Pete, I sympathize with you. I wish I could do it. You
have not given us a valid...your opinion that they are not qualified
doesn't solve the problem. The Manager and John over here and the
people who looked into this have not put on the record.
Mr. Perez: Could I request the City Attorney's opinion about the
legal interpretation of the statements from the Paramount group?
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Mr. Vice Mayor, I think there is a real problem
with making a finding that one of these parties is not qualified, or
this particular party is not qualified when the record that you have
in front of you and the Administration's position is that they are.
You can't make a finding in the air. You can't make a finding without
any basis. I would be very concerned about a suit for an injunction
in which it would be argues that the City is deviating from its own
laws with respect to the bidding procedures.
Mayor Ferre: Pete, there is no way we can win that law suit. They'd
get a lawyer and join us tomorrow and if we were to pursue this, they'd
sue us for damages for God knows what.
Mr. Carollo: That's the last die on the casket.
Mr. Kouchalakas: You can throw the bids out, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: And do what?
Mr. Kouchalakas: Rebid.
Mr. Plummer: On what basis?
Mr. Gary: On what ground?
Mr. Poulos: Because, Mr. Commissioner, the contract said the minimum
was $2,400 and I know for a fact in Dade County, when I have sat at
the biddings and when there was a certain bid and one is so high,
there is something wrong and they throw all the bids out. Now I have
seen this happen because I've sat in as a clerk of Dade County.
Mr. Plummer: We're doing this on a performance bond. They have to
pay us up front.
Mr. Poulos: There had been no performance bond.
Mr. Plummer: It's in the contract.
Mr. Kouchalakas: I know, but they haven't put up any....
Mr. Plummer: It's written into the contract.
Mr. Carollo: You know what I want for the record? I want to know
what that performance bond is going to be. I think that before this
Commission votes on this, we ought to know up front what the performance
bond is going to be.
Mr. Gary: First of all, let me just respond.
Mr. Plummer: See, they might not be able to get the performance bond.
Mr. Garcia -Pedrosa: Well, then they don't get the contract.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you what we ought to do.
Mr. Plummer: A $100,000 performance bond?
Mayor Ferre: Just hold on for a moment. What kind of a performance
bond are you talking about?
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Mr. Gary: Again, Mr. Mayor, you know, fair is fair. They didn't give
us one performance bond last year. They only gave us $2,200 for the
privilege. What we would do in this particular case, as item number 6,
you know, it's always good for the others when you are struggling, the
Citv reserves the right to demand of the successful bidder a performance
bond in an amount sufficient to guarantee faithful performance of the
terms and conditions of the concession agreement. Cash deposit with
the City will meet this requirement. Unlike them, we would do it for
them. We are going to require it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves.
Mr. Plummer: I have to clear the record. I'm sorry. Mr. Gary, I have
made the motion, but your argument to me does not hold water. These
people had a track record and we know what they can do. My concern is
that these people have not. I've made the motion for you, but I still
have a concern about your experience. The difference is, Mr. Gary,
and my concern now and I think Carollo has raised a good point....
Mr. Carollo: That's why I want to get it on the table now.
Mr. Plummer: I think it needs to be on the record, Mr. Gary, and I
think that is only fair, if you are going to require $100,000 -and
I'm pulling that out of the air- and these people cannot make
$100,000 performance bid bond, and these people can, I think we
have to know that. I think it is only fair that you say to us that
you are going to require a performance bond of X number of dollars
and they have to answer to me right now as if they can produce it.
I think that is fair.
Mr. Gary: Well, I have to respond this way. I think that is fair.
I will probably surmise that regardless of how many years of experience,
they probably will never put up a performance bond.
Mr. Plummer: Who?
Mr. Gary: Them.
Mr. Plummer: But they have a track record.
Mayor Ferre; That doesn't matter whether they did or not.
Mr. Carollo: The bottom line is that....
Mr. Kouchalakas: We had the Orange Bowl Stadium for 17 years.
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minute. The bottom line is -let me set the record
straight- that what we are asking the Manager is to come up with a figure
that is going to safeguard the City. People who make up their minds
and make the decisions and vote for them are the people sitting up here,
with all respect to you, Howard. What I'm asking you is to give me a
figure that's fair and is going to protect the City's interest.
Mayor Ferre: That is a fair request.
Mr. Carollo: These people have had a track record, and our own Administrator
has said that in the twelve years or more they have not had any problems
with these people.
Mayor Ferre: That is a fair request, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Carollo: I don't know if these people can even perform in cookies
for that matter.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. City Attorney.
Mayor Ferre: No, wait, one thing at a time. A member of this Commission
has made a legitimate request to the Manager. I think it is legitimate.
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Mr. Gary: I'm going to respond to that this way.
Mayor Ferre: After that we are ready to vote.
Mr. Gary: O.K., I'm not saying that we should have one. I don't
want to give you one. What I'm saying is to be fair to everybody,
and I don't even know these people here and I don't even know them
either, is that we said in the R.F.P. that we reserve the right to
demand one. Obviously, they didn't offer a performance bond. They
didn't offer one. We would reserve the right, when we negotiate the
agreement and the contract, so that's why we didn't have the figures.
Mayor Ferre: Howard, that's fine, but the Commissioner is asking....
Mr. Carollo: That's understandable, Howard, you explained that.
Mr. Gary: That's fine; I'm going to respond to that. I would think
that right now, without coming out with a firm figure, that $10,000
or $15,000 is a reasonable performance bond. That would double the
amount that they have guaranteed the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: With that as a stipulation....
Mr. Plummer: I accept $15,000 as a performance bond and I add one
other stipulation. That the S7,500 must be paid in advance.
Mayor Ferre: With that as a stipulation, are you making the motion
again?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, I just added that to the motion I had already
made.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion on the floor with two
stipulations. Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a second on the motion now. Further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 83-1154
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH SAN FRANCISCO
PUFFS AND STUFF, INC., A FLORIDA CORPORATION, AND
PETER CHRONIS, AN INDIVIDUAL, FOR THE EXCLUSIVE
RIGHT TO SELL FOOD AND BEVERAGES ALONG THE NEW
YEARS EVE ORANGE BOWL PARADE ROUTE, FOR A PERIOD
OF 5 YEARS, COMMENCING DECEMBER 31, 1983, SUBSTAN-
TIALLY UPON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH
IN THE AGREEMENT ATTACHED HERETO WITH SUCH OTHER
PROVISIONS AS APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND
UPON THE FURTHER CONDITIONS AS EXPRESSED BY THE
CITY COMMISSION
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted herein and
on file in the Office of the Clerk).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resolution was
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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Mr. Carollo: Based on the Citv Attorney's decision, we have no choice
but to vote for it.
Mavor Ferre: For the same reason, I have to unfortunately vote yes.
Mr. Kouchalakas: Mr. Mayor, thank you for your time and Commissioners.
Mavor Ferre: I'm sorry we couldn't do anything else, but that's the
way it is. Some of these decisions are hard.
57. PUBLIC HEARING - SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS, FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING
FUNDS CONTINUE DISCUSSION TO DECEMBER 15, 1983.
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Mayor Ferre: We are now on Revenue Sharing Funds, Mr. Manager.
Ms. Dena Spillman: Commissioners, what I just gave you was what was
in your Commission packet, but it is tabbed and it is easier to read.
The page I think you might be interested in is 81, which gives you
the recommendations of staff. I might review with you what you did
at the last City Commission meeting, which was carry over the existing
agencies through December 31st, and vote to fund for next year the
additional agencies of Centro Mater, Industrial Home for the Blind,
United Family and Children Services, and Martin Technical College.
You also voted, as we understood it to continue funding A.S.P.I.R.A.
of Florida. The staff's recommendation is that you accept the existing
agencies and those that you added at the last meeting. That's all I
have to say.
Mayor Ferre: Is this a public hearing? Do we have to listen...?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Technically this is not a public hearing. Is that correct?
Ms. Spillman: That is correct.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. City Attorney, technically this is not a public hearing.
Is that right?
Mr. Bob Clark: When you say technically this is not a public hearing....
Mayor Ferre: I'm asking you the legal question.
Mr. Clark: I believe that the Federal Revenue Sharing regulations
wouldn't....
Ms. Spillman: No, no, no, this is not an advertised public hearing.
Mr. Clark: All right, no, this is not a public hearing.
Ms. Spillman: We already know that.
Mayor Ferre: The people who want to speak are Legal Services, Rev.
Tom... allocation of Federal Haitian Catholic Center, Haitian Refugee
Center, Haitian Refugee Center, Haitian Refugee Center. Is there
anyone else who wishes to speak?
AT THIS POINT THE MAYOR TAKES A COUNT OF HANDS OF SPEAKERS.
I will give each organization five minutes. You divide those up
however you want. Well start with Legal Services of Greater Miami,
Bernadette Green and Marsha Siphen. We will hear from one person
per organization; you decide which one of you and we'll hear five
minutes from each organization. Put on the timer and let's start.
Go ahead, please.
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Ms. Bernadette Green: Mr. Mavor and Commissioners, my name is Bernadette
Green. I'm with Legal Services of Greater Miami. I'm here to talk about
our application for funding for Legal Services in the Overtown area as
well as the Wynwood area. Mr. Mayor, I recall back in 1980 while I was
in Atlanta, Georgia, you made a very urgent call to the Bureau of the
Census questioning what was the Bureau of the Census going to do about
the additional 100,000 persons that suddenly came upon the City of Miami.
We, at Legal Services, have experienced the need for additional staff
as a result of additional poor people in Dade County. Federal Revenue
Sharing, as many people understand, is supposedly used for low and
moderate income folk. We at Legal Services have been cut back in 1981
at the rate of 40%. We have been promised by President Reagan that
we will be eliminated. In the Overtown area, just as an example, 47.5%
of the persons in Overtown have incomes below the Federal poverty
guidelines. In the Wynwood area, 41% of the population have incomes
below the Federal poverty guidelines. In 1981 we had eight offices,
one of which was in Wynwood. We now have a total of five offices.
We have one at Northside Shopping Center; and we also have one in
Little Havana. We have never received funding through the City of
Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes, you have.
Ms. Green: Ah!
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes, you have. Yes, ma'am, about four or five years
ago you got $50,000.
Ms. Green: Great! Good to know. Thank you for correcting me. But
in any event, we'd love to get $100,000 now to cover the Wynwood area
and the Overtown area.
Mr. Plummer: My dear, you are not part of that crew that was in here
before. The reason that we discontinued the funding was that they
were using that $50,000 against us generating more business for our
City Attorney, who had to go to court and defend the City. That's
why we didn't fund you anymore. You are not part of it. I'm not
holding you responsible. But I want to tell the truth on the record.
Ms. Green: O.K. Well, thanks to the Reagan Administration, we have
many, many restrictions added upon us, and one of which is to not
get involved in class action suits against government entities. So,
I would suppose that would help you.
Mr. Plummer: Very smart move.
Ms. Green: I think that one of the important parts is that the
Wynwood area, in particular, holds many individuals who are aliens.
Legal Services Corporation does not allow us to use our legal services
funding to represent aliens. However, we may represent persons who
are aliens with non -Legal Services Corporation money. If we did have
the opportunity to receive an additional $100,000, we would be able
to expand our operation, which we presently have operating in Overtown
on a part-time basis to a full-time basis. We applied for a grant
through Metro -Dade County and we received $75,000. We would, however,
like to expand our operation and increase a full-time operation in the
Overtown area to also include Wynwood. We are operating with the
$75,000 from the County using, working out of Liberty City as well.
The kinds of cases that we do handle at Legal Services are housing
evictions, foreclosure cases, as well as illegal lock outs and code
violations. We handle consumer cases, such as reposession of auto and
furniture, illegal contracts, garnishing of wages, those kinds of
things. We also handle a large are of denial and termination of
welfare, food stamps, social security disability payments, and we
also handle spouse abuse and child abuse. We can go on. As the
population of our County increases, our staff decreases. As the
population of wealth, as the money in the City of Miami increases,....
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Mayor Ferre: In the interest of time, let me ask, because you are
rambling on and on. You're just going in circles. How much money
do you want?
Ms. Green: $100,000.
Mayor Ferre: I see, all right, $100,000.
Mr. Carollo: Legal Services.
Mavor Ferre: One second, I want to show you something. I'd like
to ask the Haitian Catholic Center, Father, how much money are you
asking for? $56,000 The next is the Haitian Refugee Center. How
much?$109,000 These are the next three speakers. Then I have Mary
Hill. Who do you represent? I'm not recognizing you to speak.
What organization do you represent?
Ms. Mary Hill: I represent E.O.A.
Mayor Ferre: You are here for E.O.A. How much money are you asking
for? Are you here representing E.O.A.?
Ms. Hill: Yes, in the correction of the set-up. I'm representing
New Dade Care Human Services also.
Mayor Ferre: I see, thank you very much.
Ms. Hill: I can get back in with you concerning this because....
Mayor Ferre: We're not recognizing you to speak. You will have your
turn.
Ms. Hill: Will you call me back up?
Mayor Ferre: I will. Will Baskins, who do you represent, Mr. Baskins?
Mr. Will Baskins: I represent the Performing Artists Guild Ensenble.
Mr. Mayor, we asking for $15,000.
Mayor Ferre: The Performing Art Ensenble, how much?
Mr. Baskins: $15,000
Mayor Ferre: $15,000 for the Performing Art Ensemble. Now we have
the Southwest Social Services, Mrs. Peredo, how much is your request?
$64,000. Octavio Blanco, Action Community Center, Mr. Blanco, how
much are you asking for?
Mr. Octavio Blanco: $30,000, sir.
Mayor Ferre: The next one is Josefina Carbonedo an<' her elderly meals.
How much are you asking for? $76,000, this is in addition to what is
being recommended, right? I'm going to write them down for you. Mr.
Chavez, S.E.R. Jobs? $60,000. Youth Coop, Mr. Genaro Perez, how much
are you asking for? $30,000. A.S.P.I.R.A., Dr. Morgan? $74,500.
Now Allapattah Community Action, Mariano Cruz? $39,000.
Does somebody have an adding machine? Would you add the following:
$100,000
56,000
109,000
15,000
64,000
30,000
76,000
60,000
30,000
74,000
39,000
How much does the Claude Pepper Shelter? $65,000. All right,
add $65,000 to Claude Pepper Shelter.
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Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, you are not being fair with yourself. If
I understood your presentation. That was only seed money to be reim-
bursed. Is that correct?
Mayor Ferre: Reimbursed by whom?
Mr. Plummer: By the grant they have been promised by Claude Pepper's
office.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: No, he was going to bring me proof of that grant.
Ms. Spillman: There is no grant.
Mr. Plummer: It is not an outright gift or grant. What it is is seed
money with a guarantee of the return.
Mayor Ferre: Do you believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, I don't believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth
Fairy, but if Claude Pepper sends me a letter saying the grant is
for sure, I'll listen to that too.
Mayor Ferre: If he has a letter from Claude Pepper that says "You've
got the grant." Let me see that letter.
Unidentified Speaker: You are asking for that now?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, I am, I sure am. If you have a letter there from
Claude Pepper that says you have $65,000....
Mr. Plummer: No, the grant is for much more. $65,000 is only the
seed money.
Mayor Ferre: O.K., how much does that all add up to?
Ms. Spillman: $718,000.
Mayor Ferre: $718,000 and we have $1,000,000. Right? We have a
request here for another $700,000.
Ms. Spillman: We are already over from last week by $220,000. So
you can add that to the $717,000, which makes it $1,000,000 over what
we had.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, do you have a little grab bag back in there
where you can go in there and grab $719,000?
Mr. Gary: No, I do not.
Mayor Ferre: Well, then....
Mr. Gary: You are talking about the total apart?
Mr. Carollo: That's not what it says here.
Mayor Ferre: Now....
Mr. Gary: More?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, more. Therefore, when you come up to talk to
this Commission, you tell us which one of these programs you want
us to cut. Because I'm not going to accept your coming here and just
telling me you want $100,000 or $56,000 or $109,000. You tell me
who to cut. You tell me whether you want Action Community Center
cut; A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida, Belafonte Tacolcy. You tell me what
you want and where you want to cut. How much money is it that we
have to distribute, Dena? $1,100,000
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Ms. Spillman: We have $1,100,000. You have already committed from the
last Commission meeting $220,000 above that amount. So we are up to
$1,340,000, of which we don't have $220,000.
Mayor Ferre: How much money do we have to distribute?
Ms. Spillman: $1,120,000.
Mayor Ferre: Where is the list on this document of your recommendations?
Mr. Plummer: Page 81.
Ms. Spillman: The recommendations are on page 81.
Mayor Ferre: That's logical.
Ms. Spillman: I can tell you what was added at the last Commission
meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, since I was the one who tore into Dena at
the last meeting, I likewise want to compliment her this meeting for
something that is easy to read and to understand. I think this is the
way that we wanted it. So this time I compliment you.
Ms. Spillman: Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Can I ask, please, that we go down the list of those
ones that are here? Action Community Center is recommended for X
dollars. How many more dollars are they asking?
Ms. Spillman: $30,000.
Mr. Plummer: I don't need each one of you to come up. Do you have
a list? How much? They are asking for $30,000 more.
Allapattah Community, how much more?
Ms. Spillman: $39,000.
Mr. Plummer: $39,000 more than what they have already been. Are you
talking about total or are you asking for more than what is recommended?
Ms. Spillman: More.
Mr. Plummer: For example, Action Community Center, you are recommended
for $65,970? Are you asking for $30,000 more?
Unidentified Speaker: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: The total would now be $95,000.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Unidentified Speaker: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Allapattah Community, are you asking for $39,000 total?
Unidentified Speaker: Total.
Mr. Plummer: So you are really asking for approximately $11,000 more?
Mayor Ferre: $12,000 more. A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida are recommending
zero.
Mr. Plummer: And they are asking for how much?
Ms. Spillman: No, A.S.P.I.R.A., at your last meeting, as I understood
it, you asked that they be included at the amount that they had been
previously funded, which was about $64,000.
Mayor Ferre: That's right.
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Mr. Plummer: $64,000.
Ms. Spillman: $74,000, and that has already been approved by the
Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Well, not in this list that we have in front of us.
Ms. Spillman: No, all right.
Mr. Plummer: Because that is going to juggle all the figures. Belafonte
on both of those are satisfied and have not requested any further funding?
That's the first smart move I've heard.
Ms. Spillman: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: Miami Bridge and Overtown Day Care, Centro Post -Graduates....
Ms. Spillman: O.K.
Mr. Plummer: O.K. means they get nothing.
Ms. Spillman: They have never appeared here and they are aware that
they are recommended for nothing.
Mr. Plummer: Coconut Grove Family Clinic, did they request more than
what they are getting?
Ms. Spillman: They did in writing to us, but they are not here. We
told them that we did not have additional... Oh, I'm sorry.
Mayor Ferre: They are here. They are here to protect the little that
they are getting.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, you are going to be satisfied with the
$35,307? The First United Methodist, are they asking for more?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mr. Plummer: They are satisfied.
Mayor Ferre: Are they here?
Mr. Plummer: H.A.C.A.D.?
Mayor Ferre: No, wait, First United Methodist is hot meals. Right?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, well, it is intertwined, Mr. Mayor. They are having
to take money for a social worker now away from the hot meals. It will
put the money back to the hot meals. That's also with Gesu Church.
H.A.C.A.D. is asking for, or are they satisfied?
Ms. Spillman: They are O.K.
Mr. Plummer: They should be. They are the largest grant. Industrial
Home for the Blind, are they satisfied?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mr. Plummer: How much more?
Mayor Ferre: They are satisfied because you increased them last time,
Dena. That's why.
Ms. Spillman: Right, $14,000.
Mr. Plummer: That's what they are asking total, or more?
Ms. Spillman: More.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, they're asking to be put up $14,000.
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Mayor Ferre: They have already done that. We approved that the last
time.
Ms. Spillman: You approved that at the last meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Not according to the list I'm working from.
Ms. Spillman: No, this is our staff's recommendations, Commissioner.
Mayor Ferre: Where is the list of the way we approved it last time.
Do you have it anywhere in any of these pages?
Mr. Plummer: No, because —yes, the bottom half of this page were
the ones that we deviated.
Ms. Spillman: No, I'm just going to have to tell you what you approved
last week. All right? I'm sorry, you don't have it.
Mr. Plummer: Industrial Home for the Blind is asking for $24,000 more?
Ms. Spillman: No, $14,000 more, which was approved last week.
Mr. Plummer: $24,000 total.
Ms. Spillman: Right.
Mr. Plummer: J.E.S.C.A.
Ms. Spillman: O.K.
Mr. Plummer: Little Havana Activity Center of Dade County, Peter's Plaza.
Ms. Spillman: They want more money. Where are they? I don't know how
much.
Mr. Plummer: They have three items here.
Ms. Spillman: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: Are they increases for all three? Is it applied for all
three?
Ms. Spillman: They haven't told me. I know that they want an increase.
I don't know where they are.
Mr. Plummer: How much of an increase? $76,000 increase, is that
correct? Los Viejos, are they satisfied with their $4,000?
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Miami Jewish Home -Douglas Gardens.
Ms. Spillman:
Mr. Plummer:
They are O.K.
St. Albans.
Ms. Spillman: O.K.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., now, beyond that, what are the other requests?
Those are the ones that we have.
Mayor Ferre: Martin Technical College.
Mr. Plummer: That is already at $175,000. That is down below.
Ms. Spillman: Correct.
Mayor Ferre: United Family.
Mr. Plummer: That's $22,820. That's down below. That's within the
budget. What are the other requests. Legal Services, I know they ask
for $100,000. Right? Didn't I hear the Haitian Refugee Center ask
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Mayor Ferre: $56,000, that's the Catholic.
Mr. Plummer: Is that different from the Haitian Refugee Center?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. The Haitian Catholic Center requested $56,000.
The Haitian Refugee Center has requested $109,000.
Mr. Plummer: Dena, are these figures predicated on a 12 month funding
or what's left?
Ms. Spillman: This is 12 months, but they would obviously only be
funded for the rest of the fiscal year.
Mr. Plummer: Do the people know that is obvious?
Ms. Spillman: Yes, because they have already received the 1/12th,
1/12th, 1/12th.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., but if some of them now, for example, A.S.P.I.R.A.
...no, I'm sorry, because they are recommended for funding.
Ms. Spillman: The Centro Caribeno has not accepted any money for the
new year because they weren't interested. So they were out from the
beginning. Everybody else was funded on a 1/12th level.
Mr. Plummer: So in other words, what we are talking about is not
$1,235,800. We are talking about 9/12ths of that. Is that correct?
It's been three months already paid?
Ms. Spillman: Well, we have allocated to date...wait a minute. Ask
me that again.
Mr. Plummer: You show a total recommendation of $1,235,800. It's
my understanding you have paid three months. Is that correct?
Ms. Spillman: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: So, it would be 9/12ths of what they are presently
requesting is what they would get and possibly less because of the
two outright that the Commission has already granted.
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I hope that they all understand that.
Mayor Ferre: Now I will tell you what I want to do to get one thing
behind us. We have Dr. Rosario, who has flown down from New York.
Dr. Rosario, Ivette, if I may, so that we can understand, because
Mendez came to me this morning. Excuse me, Ms. Hill. As I under-
stand it, Mr. Mendez said that the difference now is that A.S.P.I.R.A.
is willing to put money into Miami. In other words, national is willing
to put money to match this $64,000. A.S.P.I.R.A. of the United States
based up in New York, they have their local program here, are willing
to match our dollars with their national dollars.
Mr. Gary: Who says?
Mayor Ferre: Is that right or not? That's what Mendez told me this
morning.
Dr. Rosario: Mr. Mendez was correct. As a matter of fact, Mr. Mayor,
A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida belongs to the A.S.P.I.R.A. Association
represented in six areas including New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
Chicago, Florida, of course, and Puerto Rico. As part of our respon-
sibility within the association is to coordinate a development plan,
or development activities which would assist each of the associates
and affiliates in their fund raising efforts, so that we do not
expect to continue relying solely on the City of Miami or the grant
received by the City of Miami for the sustenance of A.S.P.I.R.A. of
Florida. But we will be putting together a plan geared towards the
obtaining of additional support to A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida.
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Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you. Dena, you have to listen to this now.
He says they are putting together a grant. Now that is a different
thing from what Mendez told me. Mendez said you were coming down here
with money. Are you telling me that you have the money? Or are you
putting together a grant to ask for money?
Dr. Rosario: No, as a matter of fact, part of our responsibility in
the association to our associates is to assist in the development efforts.
For example, we reach out to national corporations, such as Texaco,
Coca Cola. Including for example, Coca Cola will be putting $100,000
out of its own money into Miami next June.
Mayor Ferre: Is this money that you have gotten from Coca Cola to
A.S.P.I.R.A. National coming into Miami?
Dr. Rosario: A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida will be an applicant for all
or part of that money that Coca Cola has already indicated will be
available for each of the five cities where they conducted their
national studies.
Mayor Ferre: Are you satisfied with that, Dena? Or is that pie in
the sky.
Ms. Spillman: We have recommended against the project. We were never
told of any grants. We still recommend against the project.
Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor, maybe this would be the wrong day to talk about
A.S.P.I.R.A., but I think one of the things that we did in making our
recommendations and making an analysis and one of the concerns that I'm
going to have particularly now is whether or not people are complying
with the scope of services after they receive our dollars.
Dr. Rosario: I don't understand. Is that a question or a statement?
Because, Mr. Mayor, A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida to my understanding in
looking at the records provided to me, have been providing services.
It seems to me from looking at the information that the differences
have been a question of interpretation of the process of evaluation
and exactly what constitutes services. In fact, services have been
provided and the representative of the A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida Board
of Directors is here to speak on that issue. In addition the young
people sitting in this auditorium are testimony to the fact that
services are being provided.
Mayor Ferre: Doctor, what I wanted to do was just put into the record,
which I've been unable to do, that we are getting matching funds
because if we were getting matching funds, that puts you in a very
special category; but if that is not the case, then you are where
everybody else is.
Dr. Rosario: Well, Mr. Mayor, as a matter of fact, I was not aware
that kind of specific commitment had been made to you. The commitment
that we are making is to aggressively seek other source. of f,inria tn
provide services here in A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida, including national
sources which have not been forthcoming.
Mayor Ferre: Then, that being the case, I'll have to ask you wait
your turn, because I have to follow an orderly procedure here with
list.
Dr. Rosario: O.K., thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Is there any way we can cut through all this, Dena?
Ms. Spillman: The bottom line is that we don't have any money. I
mean, I don't want to be ... we're already over what we have. Anything
additional has to come from somewhere else or from an existing agency.
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Mayor Ferre: I want the people that are here that are going to speak
to the Commission to understand that we have allocated $1,144,000.
That is all the money we have. That does not include A.S.P.I.R.A.
$74,000, the extra $30,000 that Action wants, the $11,000 that
Allapattah wants, the $14,000 that the Industrial Home for the Blind,
the $76,000 that the Little Havana Activity Center wants. So as you
speak I want you to tell me what you would propose that we cut, because
we have to get the money from somebody else. We don't have the money.
Mr. Will Baskins: Mr. Mayor, due to the circumstances, the
Performing Artists Guild Ensemble withdraw their request.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, I certainly appreciate that because I think
is just a realistic approach to a problem that we have. All right,
I will just ask each one of you to keep your statements as short as
you possibly can. Mr. Will Baskins has just withdrawn. The next one
that I ... there are three minutes per person, five minutes per organization.
Christina Penedo , S.W. Social Services is the next speaker. Ms. Penedo,
please, we are way beyond our time. you have three minutes per person,
five minutes per organization.
Ms. Christina Penedo: My name is Christina Penedo. I represent S.W.
Social Services Program. I have come with a group of participants,
who are sitting on that third row over there, to request a City Com-
mission approval of our application for Federal Revenue Sharing Funds
in the amount of $64,378 so that we can continue providing congregate
meals and home delivered meals to the needy, elderly residents of the
Flagami area. Our present location is at 7367 S.W. 8 Street, within
the boundaries of the City of Miami. During the year we have provided
services to approximately 1,200 persons, 430 of them or 36% of them
reside within the City limits, at least with a name and address attached
to our request and it is available to any member of the Commission, upon
request. As you can see in the attached map, the Flagami area lacks
nutritional programs for the elderly, as compared to other areas in
the City. Flagami has a population of 30,557 persons aged 60 and over.
Of this number, 75% of them are minorities, and 18% of them, or 550,
are living below poverty levels. The only other program providing
similar services is St. Dominic's Gardens, a housing facility which
primarily serves its residents. Our elderly population is in greater
economic needs because they do not receive the benefits of living in
public housing and having to live in a fixed income, they have little
or nothing left for food and other basic needs after paying the high
cost of rent and utilities. If you refer to the last page on your
package, there is an article that came out in E1 Herald, which mentions
two of our clients and gives an example of what most of our cases are
like. As you can see, our program fits the priorities set forth by
the City Commission, which is among feeding the hungry and and healing
the sick. The area agency on aging United Way, having recognized the
great need in that area for the first time allocated $16,000 of non-
recurring funds so we could maintain our program open. We kept the
program open for two months between June 30th and September 1st through
private donations, volunteer work from members of this staff who have
donated their salaries.
Mayor Ferre: Now I'm going to take this out of turn, because I think
we have to get these children out of here.
Mr. Perez: Mrs. Penedo, how much are you requesting?
Mayor Ferre: What agency is ... why are all these little children and
babies here?
Ms. Spillman: It's the Haitian Day Care Program, I believe, the
Haitian Refugee Center Day Program.
Mayor Ferre: Why are all these babies here? Who do they...?
Mr. Plummer: Are all of these mothers with the babies in your group?
Which group is that?
Unidentified Speaker: This is the Haitian Refugee Center.
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Mr. Plummer: Can we hear them and let them go home?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, that's why I'm taking them up.
Mr. Plummer: Is that agreeable?
Unidentified Speaker: That is very kind of you, Commissioner.
Mayor Ferre: We'll hear the Haitian Refugee Center.
Ms. Spillman: On page 61 in your book, if you want to look at it.
Ms. Elaine Silvain: My name is Elaine Silvain. I am here again today
on behalf on the Haitian Refugee Center, Inc. At the last month's
hearing, Commissioner Carollo, asked us to do a further study on our
proposal to see how the City of Miami could help the Haitian Refugee
Center to open a day care center for the American children born by
Haitian parents who do not have assitance. These parents today we
brought them here. They cannot go to work. They cannot go to school,
because there is no place for them to leave their babies. In the Haitian
community, the City of Miami has two day care centers serving presently
41 children, American children born by Haitian parents. All these
parents cannot work. Yesterday we had scheduled a meeting to talk to
the Commissioners and the Mayor about the needs of the community.
Thank you very much, Commissioner Carollo. Commissioner Carollo had
sent his aide to talk to us.
Mr. Carollo: If I may for a second, I apologize that I was not able
to get there myself.
Ms. Silvain: O.K. I understand.
Mayor Ferre: I'd like to ask you just for my satisfaction, did you
talk to my office?
Ms. Silvain: I did not talk to your office. I was not the person
in charge of the meeting.
Mayor Ferre: Who was in charge of the meeting?
Ms. Silvain: Sister Catherine was in charge of the meeting.
Mayor Ferre: Sister Catherine, did you call my office?
INAUDIBLE RESPONSE NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Ferre: Who did you talk to?
INAUDIBLE RESPONSE NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Would you come up to the microphone, because I'm also
going to pursue this avenue, based on an article. I want to know if
this article was taken out of context or whether you were misquoted
or what. Because, obviously, this article is a bunch of trash and
I want to get to the bottom of it.
Sister Catherine Lauler: I'm Sister Catherine Lauler from Pierre
Toussaint Haitian Catholic Center here in Miami.
Mayor Ferre: Is this the same group, Sister, that is presenting here
today?
Sister Lauler: No, this is not the same group.
Mayor Ferre: Another group.
Sister Lauler: However, we are in the same neighborhood. We are both
in the Little Haiti area of the City. Following Commissioner Carollo's
suggestion that the Commissioners be provided the opportunity to study
the proposals and the sites that were submitted at the last meeting,
we wrote both of the Mayor and Commissioners invitations. That was
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Sister Lauler (Con't): both of our organizations. You received two
letters. One from the Pierre Toussaint Haitian Center, one from the
Haitian Refugee Center inviting you to a meeting on December 7th at
10:30 A.M. at the Pierre Toussaint Haitian Center. I followed that
up on Monday with a phone call. I talked to whomever it was that
told me that your scheduling secretary was on vacation and she would
call me back and let me know.
Mayor Ferre: Did she call you back?
Sister Lauler: If I could pursue what happened with the other Commissioners.
I called each of the other Commissioners. Commissioner Dawkins said he
would definitely come through his secretary. Commissioner Carollo's
secretary said it was on his agenda. Commissioner Perez' secretary
said she did not think that the Commissioner would be able to come.
It was not on his agenda. Commissioner Plummer, your secretary said
that it was on your agenda; however, if you had a funeral at that time
that we would not expect you to come. The next day the Mayor's secretary
called me back.
Mayor Ferre: Her name is Ilea Teems. Ilea Teems is the secretary
who called you back and specifically told you that I would not be able
to go.
Sister Lauler: Right. That it was not in your agenda; you would not
be able to come.
Mayor Ferre: Just so we understand each other, in the future, that lady
smoking a cigarette, unfortunately, is my Administrative Assistant. Her
name is Marie Petit. This gentleman right here is a national fellow by
the name of Robert Lammont; he is Haitian and works in my office. The
gentleman in the light sweater behind him is my assistant; his name is
Nestor Toledo. My other assistant is Carol Anne Taylor, who is walking
around here; there she is lifting her hand in the back. Whenever you
want to talk to me, please, and something of this importance, you can
talk to Mr. Lammont, who happens to be Haitian. You can talk to Nestor
Toledo, who is an assistant, or to Carol Anne Taylor, who is an assistant.
Sister Lauler: Thank you. I appreciate that information. But the
person that I talked to said that it was the scheduling secretary I
was to talk to and then she said she was on vacation, so she would talk
to the scheduling secretary. So I appreciate knowing to whom I should
speak.
Mr. Plummer: But at no time did you ever receive from my office a
commitment I would be there?
Sister Lauler: Sir, I received a statement saying that....
Mr. Plummer: That we had the invitation.
Sister Lauler: And you would be there unless a funeral prevented you
from attending. We called yesterday to see if that was indeed the case
and your secretary at that time said you would not be there.
Mr. Plummer: That is correct.
Sister Lauler: We did not ask if it was a funeral. We just received
the word that you would not be there. But that was after the meeting
started.
Mr. Plummer: All I have to say to you is, so that the record is clear,
that I was at the funeral home. I was working. It was not a funeral.
I was making arrangements for a funeral, which still requires my
presence; and for me to have to turn around and pick up this morning's
paper and take a blast. I make about 95% of the invitations of which
I am sent. I do have to make a living once in a while.
Sister Lauler: Thank you, we appreciate that.
Mr. Plummer: We do not make commitments.
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Sister Lauler: We appreciate that, sir.
Mr. Perez: I want to make clear that when you called my office, my
assistant explained that I would try, but I was unable to attend to
that tour. I was all day yesterday here in City Hall
until 5:00 o'clock from 10:00 o'clock in the morning. She told you
that if you wanted to meet with us, you were able and you were invited
to come to City Hall at any time yesterday. You didn't come. But I
never made any commitments to be at your meeting. We returned your
call. We tried to cooperate and we opened the door to our office, but
we didn't have the opportunity to have you here. But I explained very
clearly and I want to clarify for the record that my assistant gave all
the courtesy and all the support, but I never made any commitments and
I was all day working yesterday here in City Hall.
Sister Lauler: Thank you, and she did tell us you would not be there.
Mr. Carollo: If I may, for the record, these people, they couldn't have
been more professional. They sent the letters. In fact, we received
two different letters. They called my office, just like they called
all of our offices. I have no complaints whatsoever. I apologize that
on top of this being an extremely busy season for all of us, three of
us just got done through quite a few months of campaigns and therefore,
we have even more of a work load now. But you have all been very
professional, and I just want to make that clear.
Unidentified Speaker: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, the Haitian Refugee
Center of which I am the Executive Director, is very grateful for your
giving us this opportunity to talk to you. This is indeed the first
time in the history of the City that this center is coming here to
ask the City to take care to help us take care of these children.
You never saw me here. The center's habit is to get money out of
town to bring it to Miami. We brought thousands of dollars into
the City of Miami every year. But this time, I have ordered my
administrator and other staff of the center to send proposals to
follow up on the issues to come and see. They have been very patient
about it, and I never had a chance myself to work on it directly, but
when I learned at the last meeting that these people gathered at the
center all the time; they were waiting for visitors, they were waiting
for officials to hear them, to understand their needs and try to meet
some of their needs. But today they came to the center again. I said
to them we could not bring all of them here. But some of them could
come here and be representative of the Haitian community, what is going
on. I know that you have been doing your best to help the people.
I know that the Catholic Church at the center, we have been working
together trying to get something together. The Sister, who just
spoke, we try to help the community alleviate the plight of the
community to our best, but unfortunately, it seems that this time,
the first time that I come here, it could be a very big disappointment
for these people. The last time I was here was when the City was in
trouble. Everytime I come here, I come here with a bunch of people,
but I never come here to ask for any help. You will see on your record
that the Haitian Refugee Center has ever begged the City for anything.
I don't want anything from the City, but I want for these children,
for these parents. They don't have day care. Nobody is taking care
of them. In your care for the people, your concern, I will ask your
attention, I know the budget is already programed. I know Mr. Howard
Gary could be impossible to do something, but we are going to still
wait at the Catholic Center, we are going to wait here for more tonight
to see if some miracle could happen in the City of Miami and that way
we could have everyone, we could have these children, and tomorrow you
will enjoy when they go work for you and maybe know your children, you
never know. Thank you very much.
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Rev. John Powers: My name is Rev. John Powers, Director of Urban
Ministries for the United Methodist Church. First of all let me say
that the United Methodists here in Miami have worked very closely
with Haitian Refugee Center as well as H.A.C.A.D. and we have also
worked with the Catholics in refugee work. We highly commend the
work that all three of these agencies are involved in. Two years
ago, the Urban Ministries of the United Methodist Church did a needs
assessment in the Little Haiti area. We found that possibly the greatest
need in the are was for day care. We began providing scholarships for
Haitian children two years ago. The grant money that we were receiving
from National Methodist Agencies from New York are running out this year.
It is a crisis in Little Haiti and we urge you to do what you can to
help provide day care in the Little Haiti area. There is a tremendous
waiting line for title V and title XX funding.
Mayor Ferre: I would recommend now that one or two of you representatives
remain, but that these mothers with their children go home. Thank you
very much. Rev. Tom Wenski, Haitian Catholic Center.
Rev. Tom Wenski: We submitted three proposals to a total of about
$100,000. We were not recommended for any one of them because of
the needs of the community and because of the encouragement that
you yourselves gave us to study the proposals, we are asking now that
you accept one of these proposals, the proposal for job placement and
vocational training that you'll find on page 59 of this booklet.
Unemployment is a critical problem in Little Haiti. Estimates are
as much as 35% of the population is not working. One of the ways
to get people working is to enhance their employability through
vocational training and job placement. At the Haitian Center, we
have a track record in doing that. We ran vocational training programs
with the Phelps -Stokes Fund in the past. We ran it with the U.S.
Catholic Conference, when Haitians were released from Krome. We
have a tremendous facility that would be hard to duplicate in the
neighborhood where this training could take place and therefore would
help the posibility of these people finding work that would make them
taxpayers and also allow them to pay for child-care, among other things.
So, we once again recommend that you consider one of our three proposals
namely the vocational training proposal, and we would like that you would
grant that.
Mr. Plummer: Father, just so it is understood, at the present time
the request from the Haitian community, as you know, it is recommended
that one be granted. The total request of outright grants is $317,000.
Of the three requests we have or are looking at one, unfortunately,
it is not one of yours. In fairness, it has to be said that the total
request from the Haitian community is in excess of $300,000.
Rev. Wenski: That is correct. But at the same time the needs are
great in the Haitian community. The Haitians are forming a significant
part of this community.
Mr. Plummer: No question.
Rev. Wenski: So, with time to spare, I turn back to you.
Mayor Ferre: The next speaker is Action Community Center, Octavio
Blanco; three personally or five minutes per organization.
Mr. Octavio Blanco: Two minutes I think would be enough, Mayor.
Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, in front of you I think I gave you a work
sheet like this one. Right there you can see on the first page is
the increase on the insurance from $19,000; this is the automobile
that we have... from $19,000 to $24,000. On the second page, through
negotiations with the insurance group...on the last page, for example,
you got the present premium and the new premiums. Instead of $915.83
our group insurance policy was raised from $1,847 a month to $2,504.
This is a $657.42 a month that is equal to $7,890 a year.
Mayor Ferre: Dena, have you checked these figures out?
Ms. Spillman: I haven't seen that. I don't have it, even.
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Mavor Ferre: Because if what he's saying is that this is the same
service that he's rendering, and his insurance is going up and his
auto insurance and gasoline is $4,000. Here, would you take that?
I mean, that has to be verified. If it is so, it is.
Ms. Spillman: He recently received an increase for insurance already.
So, I'd have to look at this.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let's make sure that isn't double dipping.
Mr. Blanco: As you can see in one of the pages of the memorandum
from the group insurance, Mr. Mayor, even we have to raise the deductible
from $100 to $150, so they don't raise us in January another 10%. So
even the employees are paying for the high cost. The driver that you
see there, as all of you know, even Mr. Plummer is around here that
the other day a lady was complaining to him 12:00 o'clock because she
doesn't have one service and I showed Mr. Plummer to Pa' proof,
that lady on the last month had forty trips by us, forty times. Previous
to that, 96 trips on three months. She still was complaining that day
she wanted to go someplace and we couldn't service her. So we do have
another bus down there; we need to have another driver if we can.
Thank you.
Mavor Ferre: The next person for three minutes, Mary Hill. What agency
do you represent, Ms. Hill?
Ms. Mary Hill: Thank you, I am Mary Hill and as you know, I am the founder
of the Economic Opportunity Act of 1973, Washington, D.C. I wrote the
proposal, outline, guidelines to this effect to help the poor regardless
to race, creed, or color. I also represent the private sector, which
is my department. I am the private sector of this program. O.K., now,
we do have... the reason I'm not asking for funds is because we do have
earmarked mandated funds that support their company this program here.
Number one, what I see here, these programs have been changed over
since 1973. They were brought under one umbrella, and especially since
1979. They have been brought back together. Now what I'm looking at
this afternoon and since I spoke the last time, I see some conflict of
interest that is taking place here this afternoon. Those programs have
been put together with this had to be old, outdated material that they
are working from. Because from '79 there is a new thing that comes under
the regional office, which is my office, which is the private sector's
office. These funds and these programs are going to delete the time,
the effort, and the setting up of these programs according to law. I
don't see where last year, last week, when we had the last meeting,
on the 8th, I don't see where they were going to ... I've been here when
they said they were going to fund these. I know I don't have but three
minutes, sir, but this is very important. What I'm asking you Commissioners
to do from this point like those funds that have been frozen an awful
long time, and if you have any funds that are left over to go to this
department, delete those funds back to us, put us as responsible for
putting these programs in order and Commissioners, you will see that
Mr. Gary, because it seems as though I have a problem, I would like for
you to indulge to see that this department and the order is put into
law and put into action immediately, please, sir. Because I'm not
only local, I have a very, very great responsibility for the nation,
not only Dade County. So when they are holding me up here, they are
holding me up for my duties and responsibilities nation-wide. So I
am asking you Commissioners this afternoon what can you do on one
of your resolutions because the last time I checked, it specifically
say that you were going to help with this program into order. So I
am asking you what are you all and Mr. Gary he's out now, I know he
took off, what are you going to do concerning this matter? This is
a very vital matter because you alreay are operating in a conflict of
interest.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Ms. Hill.
Ms. Hill: What are you going to?
Mayor Ferre: I don't know what to answer you right now. We need to
listen to these other people and then we'll come back and....
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Ms. Mary Hill: 0.K., will you come back to me?
Mayor Ferre: Well, we shall....
Ms. Mary Hill: You can't make any promise that you are going to see
that....
Mayor Ferre: I can't make any promises. The next speaker is Elderly
Meals, Mrs. Josefina Carbonel, three minutes and five minutes per
organization.
Ms. Mary Hill: My three minutes are up, sir, but this is very vital.
I'm warning you today, because we hr,re waited 18 days and Mr. Gary
hasn't called us. When I talked to Mr. Gary, he was very offended.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Ms. Hill.
Ms. Hill: That's why I'm bringing it to your attention that this is
a conflict of interest, what you are doing here today, because these
programs are supposed to be demised back on this department under
title XX.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Ms. Carbonel.
Ms. Josefina Carbonel: I'm Josefina Carbonel. I represent the Little
Havana Activities and Nutrition Centers. I come here to appeal for
your giving us the opportunity to serve 180 extra meals in the elderly
food serving program.
Mayor Ferre: Where are these extra meals going to be served?
Ms. Carbonel: The extra meals are spread 30 between Peter's Plaza and
Blind Program, the Allapattah Center needs an extra 60 meals, and
Little Havana 90 meals. Let me tell you that the 180 meals that we
are requesting extra are people that have been on the waiting list
for over a year, waiting for meals to be served. Unfortunately, due
to the cut backs and to the tight situation in money, we have not been
able to serve these people meals and they are on a waiting list. The
$76,000 extra requested and the two meal programs are specifically to
serve 180 daily elderly meals. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Melvin Chaves, Skip Chaves, three minutes.
Mr. Melvin Chaves: City Commissioners, my name is Melvin Chaves. I'm
the President of SER Jobs for Progress. I appear before you tonight
to present a partial solution to one of the big problems that faces
this community, which is the lack of participation of Black entrepreneurs
in the international trade and commerce of this community. The proposal
that you have before you would create an opportunity for entrepreneurship
and job creation, which is desperately needed as pointed out in the
Metro -Miami Plan and the Miami Herald and many publications and is something
that is well known that the Black entrepreneurship in this City is less
than 2% and is something that needs to be prioritized as an issue. What
we are proposing would be a matching program with a contract with minority
business development agencies of the U.S. Department of Commerce. We would
propose to serve 20 Black entrepreneurs or interested parties who wanted
to get into the export business. We feel that our expertise, our back-
ground in this thing...we are currently serving minorities, including
Black minorities and I want to reserve a minute for one of our clients...
would serve that purpose and be within the priorities of job creation
through this type of program.
Mayor Ferre: I need to tell you, so that you understand. I wish I
could tell you otherwise, but this Commission with this million dollars
that we have to allocate is'morally and practically committed to giving
money to the needy. I know that jobs are important, but we are talking
about feeding people and the priorities of this Commission have always
been first to feed the poor, and secondly to give them medicine, if
that is required. I'm not telling you that is the best philosophy.
I want to tell you that this is the worst job, being Mayor tonight
is the worst night of all the things that I do as Mayor will I have
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Mayor Ferre (Con't): tonight, and that is to vote and turn down some
people. I want to tell you that I think SER does the best job that
I have seen in this community. It is vitally important. I don't know
how in the world I can turn down 180 more hot meals in Allapattah and
otherwise and fund a program as worthy as it is for job creation. That
is just one man's opinion.
Mr. Walter Pierce: Mr. Mayor, just for the record, the program that
he is proposing is more properly in the arena of International Trade
Promotion. He should be talking to Frank Diaz-Pou of International
Trade Promotion.
Mayor Ferre: Have you talked to Frank Diaz-Pou?
Mr. Chaves: I haven't had an opportunity, Mayor.
Mr. Pierce: He can contact me tomorrow. I'll make sure that he and
Mr. Diaz-Pou get together.
Mr. Chaves: Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I understand the problem of need
and it is certainly real, I think. But the other problem we need to
change is status of the economic situation to avoid that.
Mayor Ferre: I'm 100% in agreement. But when you have people that
are going hungry, you know, we worry about giving them hot meals.
Let the president of the United States worry about solving the other
problems.
Mr. Chaves: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Genaro Perez, Youth,Co-op.
Mr. Genaro Perez: Good evening, my name is Genaro Perez. I work for
Youth Co-op. I want to apologize for Frank Sitjes not being here,
our Executive Director, but he's sick. I'm not going to use my three
minutes, Mr. Mayor. I am only requesting from you to read page 46
from the analysis done by Ms. Spillman, especially the paragraph
before the budget analysis that reads: "The agency would provide a
much -needed service in the target area of Little Havana."
Do you have it there, Mayor? I know that you are in a hurry and
you have so many problems. I will say that our youth need this service.
I am proud to work for this agency because I will say that we do over
100% to help our people to be better citizens. Thank you, sir.
Mr. Perez: How much are you requesting?
Mr. Genaro Perez: $30,000.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now we have A.S.P.I.R.A. You have three
minutes. We have Dr. Morgan, Jose Alberio, and Dr. Rosario, five
minutes for the organization, three minutes maximum for a speaker.
Dr. Rosario: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, I will be brief. I have consulted
with the staff of the City regarding what appears to be the differences.
In discussion with them it seems that A.S.P.I.R.A. of Florida has not
followed exactly to the letter in its commitment to the City from what
they have told me. I would like to, prior to addressing that issue,
I would like to say that in fact the substance of your commendation
earlier today, which we appreciate, demonstrates that A.S.P.I.R.A.
is perceived by the Hispanic community in five major cities in the
United States, including Miami, to be the agency most effectively
servicing the needs of the Hispanic community, particularly the number
one need, which has been cited, that is education. Nontheless, as
I have indicated to staff, I am committing the national office to
send our Director of Programs to work with the local staff to insure
that whatever difficulties have arisen or will arise will be ameliorated.
and will not continue to cause a concern on the part of the staff, and
in effect, there will be full agreement as to an actual implementation
of the goals and the activities of the A.S.P.I.R.A. program, should
the Commissioners move to approve it this evening. We also have Dr.
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Dr. Rosario (Con't) Morgan, who is speaking on behalf of the Chair,
and she will continue.
Dr. Morgan: As a typical educator I would like the President of the
Robert E. Lee Jr. High to speak, Mayor Ferre.
APPLAUSE
Mr. Jose Alberio: Mayor Ferre, Commissioner Carollo, Commissioner Perez,
Commissioner Plummer, good evening, my name is Jose Alberio. I am a
student at Robert E. Lee Junior High. We feel very proud to be here
at City Hall today because we had the opportunity you, Mayor Ferre and
the Commissioners. We are very fortunate to be members of A.S.P.I.R.A.
because we have educational programs, jobs, counseling, and summer camps
and field trips. Last year the students visited Florida International
University, the zoo, and the Seaquarium. If it had not been for A.S.P.I.R.A.,
we would not have been able to have these experiences. We want to ask
you, the Mayor and the Commissioners of Miami, to please reconsider
funding A.S.P.I.R.A. so we may continue to receive these services.
Thank you.
APPLAUSE
Mayor Ferre: Very well done.
Dr. Morgan: We're very proud of him; but, of course, we are proud of
all the Aspirantes. The services that we do, give to our youngsters
are, as you know, the academic counseling, the peer counseling, the
community action, the recreational, the vocational; and vocational is
a very important facet now because we want youngsters from kindergarten
all the way up to be aware of the careers and what they will and how
they will fit into the work force of the future. We do have some of
our graduates at the university. We do have commitments from F.I.U.
that they are starting an A.S.P.I.R.A. Club with our graduates that
are going there. We also have a commitment from the University of
Miami to send some of their trainees from Dr. Feinberg's program to....
Mayor Ferre: Dr. Morgan, I don't mean to interrupt you, but you have
just a few minutes left. You have to speak to the hard core issue.
We are talking about feeding hungry people with these monies. We're
talking about getting medical services to the needy. This is an
important program, but you have to tell us why we should fund this
program. See, I tried to give Dr. Rosario an open door by telling
him I thought Mendez had told me that they would be coming with matching
funds. If that were the case, it would make it simpler. But that is
not the case. You have to give me a handle to open the door. There
is a door and there is no handle on it. You have to give me a handle.
It's wonderful that these kids go to the Seaquarium and have counseling
services. But we have people that are hungry, that are starving that
need basic things such as food and medicine. That is what we have to
deal with. You have people here asking for 148 more hot meals per
day for people that won't eat.
Dr. Morgan: Mayor Ferre, we do not feed the children; this is true.
But we train them. We look for their future. We try to educate them.
We try to keep them in schools so they will have jobs in the future.
This is a very important facet of A.S.P.I.R.A., to make sure that our
youngsters stay in school and take advantage of everything that they
can.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Dr. Morgan. The last speaker is Mariano
Cruz.
Mr. Mariano Cruz: You said last speaker; last, but not least.
Mayor Ferre: The last but not least speaker.
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Mr. Mariano Cruz: Good evening, Mr. Mayor.
Mavor Ferre: Tell us what you have that is more important than feeding
the hungry.
Mr. Cruz: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Mariano Cruz. I live
at 1227 N.W. 26 Street in Allapattah, in the City of Miami. I am also
the elected representative of the City-wide advisory board of the
Allapattah community development. Also I am a member of the Allapattah
Community Action, Inc. The purpose of my being here tonight is to ask
a total of $39,000 for the program that we have in Allapattah, Allapattah
Community Action, Inc., which you know what it does. It serves the
elderly population of Allapattah. That is about the only social program
that we have in Allapattah. I also endorse and we are very grateful
to the Little Havana Activity Center for providing the bulk of our
meals there of the hot meal program; also I am grateful to the labor
done by the Action group by providing transportation which makes possible
for the elderly people to go to our center. Being this the only program
really that we have there, social program, I'm being the —we're talking
about hungry people —people are being turned down every day at the door
because we don't have enough. So, this is just $39,000. If possible to
find more, O.K., but we have to talk about the limitations of the program.
The more you can get, the better; but it is not possible, just $39,000.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Reverend, I don't have you down. Did you write your name
down? In the future, when I ask, I would appreciate if you would fill
it out so we have a record of it, write your name down in a piece of
paper. Go ahead, the Chair recognizes you.
Rev. Stan Mathew: Mr. Mayor, I am the Rev. Stan Mathew here tonight
on behalf of the Claude Pepper Shelter, which would be located at
2930 N.W. 7 Avenue. The Congress, in its wisdom, has voted $60,000,000
in its session this fall for new shelters across the country for the
homeless. Its aims for one thing is to the single men adrift on our
streets. Lord knows that Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, both, have their
share of these men. We feel that we have a creative solution tonight.
I would like to turn the microphone over now to Mr. Arnold Porshe
about our self-help, live-in problem solving approach to the vagrants
in our streets and hopefully this will be a help in terms of tourism,
in terms of a blighting effect on business districts, and also from
the humanitarian stand point, Mr. Arnold Porshe.
Mr. Arnold Porshe: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, Mr. City Manager, first
of all, this is not a hand-out program. This program was designed to
motivate individuals that are classified as vagrants within our community.
It is also designed to try to bring about a cohesiveness between the
community, business, and residential and also the vagrant population
themselves. You said that you were interested in feeding the needy.
This program's primary emphasis is on feeding those people classified
as needy, because they don't have homes. They don't eat every day
normally, like most of us do. Our approach is to take referrals
from the courts and from the police departments of the case loads or
the work loads that they cannot handle themselves. We hope in a year's
time possibly to serve approximately 720 persons with a contained
population of 100 people providing them with at least two meals a
day. Within the scope of this program, we hope to provide the persons
with training during their 60 day stay with the program. We hope that
in that 60 day period we can recycle that individual back into society
as a meaningful person once again. Thank you very much.
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Rev. Mathew: This is Armando Prieto, who will be speaking on
behalf of the Allapattah community.
Mr. Armando Prieto: My name is Armando Prieto.
Mr. Plummer: Armando, wait a minute. Reverend, I think somebody better
take to explain what you have, because what I read here is not what you
told me.
Mayor Ferre: That's what I was going to bring up.
Mr. Plummer: And somebody better start speaking to that. You are
speaking in the realm around. I'm going to look favorably if it's
seed money. I'm not going to be so inclined if it is not seed money,
because you represented to me that it was seed money. Now what I'm
reading in this letter....
Mayor Ferre: What letter?
Mr. Plummer: No way does that say you have a guarantee.
Mayor Ferre: I don't see any letter. I see a memorandum from the office.
Mr. Plummer: No, I have a letter in the portfolio they gave me from
Claude Pepper, signed by him.
Rev. Mathew: But I said in the last three pages the legislation itself
is concerned. Mr. Charles Nichols sent this material down at the request
of Commissioner Plummer regarding the....
Mayor Ferre: I have the letter.
Rev. Mathew: No, not that letter. I said it's the third page from the
back.
Mayor Ferre: I have the third page from the back. The third page from
the back is a copy of the bill.
Rev. Mathew: It should be the next page, then.
Mayor Ferre: There is a memorandum....
Rev. Mathew: Right.
Mayor Ferre: ....from the office and nowhere there does it say that
there are any guarantees of any money.
Rev. Mathew: The national authorization is for $60,000,000. In the
past that translates roughly into about 2% for South Florida which would
be approximately $1,000,000 which is expected to be forthcoming according
to the Congressman's office in an appropriation in mid -spring. So, what
we are here on tonight, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners....
Mr. Plummer: Woa, woa, there is no guarantee you're going to get a portion
of that funding. When you say seed money is what you told me, that means
that somebody is going to personally going to guarantee the return of
that money to the City. I don't read that in any of the packet from
Pepper's office. There is only one thing better than a letter of guarantee
and that's the dollars in hand. You don't have that. I told you on the
phone the other day get some kind of a letter guarantying that you are
going to get the money and back that it's seed money and I think that
you have a good shot. I'll still tell you that. Now I have to tell you
from what you have presented to me, I don't think you have much of a shot
unless you prove to me differently. I'm just laying the cold turkey out
for you. I think you better take any time you have and convince this
Commission that it's not anymore than seed money, because to me at
this point, you have not produced any proof of a guarantee.
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Rev. Mathew: I accept your explanation of the term seed money. I
would just like to repeat that we are here to try to help solve a
problem and that it is evident that the Congress in its wisdom has
voted money for this purpose. So there is a hope and expectation
that money will be coming to this area and two communities, Biscayne
Wynwood and the Allapattah neighborhoods are prepared to do something
about it. So, I would just like during the time that is remaining to
make one last statement made.
Mr. Plummer: Since I interrupted I would ask the Mayor to allow him
to speak.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Armando Prieto: My name is Armando Prieto, 1851 N.W. ZZ Place in
Miami. I went over the program design and I found that this program
is really going to serve the need of both communities. Since these
two communities are one of the lowest incomed in the City of Miami, I
believe that we ... we know that we have a problem because we have people
sleeping in cars, on the bridges, and personally I know that we have a
problem. So, I believe that this program is designed especially for
these communities not only to help to clear the community of people
who are sleeping on the bridges, but also to motivate people and to
make them again useful to society. So, if it could be helped in a
way, you know I don't ask for too many times, but when I ask I believe
in the program and you should take some consideration about it and see
if we can help. O.K.? Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: All right, you have taken more than ten minutes. Everybody
here has had three minutes. Anybody else now that has not had an opportunity
to speak? Members of the Commission, questions, statements, motions?
Let's go to work. Ms. Spillman, would you tell me which of these projects
that are petitioning us for additional money are for food? Legal Services
obviously is not. Is Southwest Social Services, is that food?
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Haitian Catholic Center, is that food?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Haitian Refugee Center?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Action Community Center?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Elderly Meals?
Ms. Spillman: Little Havana, yes.
Mayor Ferre: Skip Chaves, no. Youth Co-op, no.
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: A.S.P.I.R.A., no.
Ms. Spillman: Allapattah Community Action.
Mayor Ferre: Allapattah Community Action is for food.
Ms. Spillman: I am assuming that. I think.
Mayor Ferre: Mariano Cruz, is that for food? Is the answer yes? This
is for hot meals for people? All right, Southwest Social Services, what's
their requirement? How much are they asking for?
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Mr. Plummer: $64,000.
Mayor Ferre: Josefina Carbonel, how much are you asking for?
Mr. Plummer: No, $76,000 additional.
Mayor Ferre: Additional, of course. Mariano Cruz is $11,000 additional.
Right?
Mr. Plummer: $12,000.
Mayor Ferre: Going down the list of agencies that are funded, tell me
which of these are food. Action Community Center is not food. Right?
Ms. Spillman: Right.
Mayor Ferre: Allapattah Community Action?
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Is that food?
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: A.S.P.I.R.A. is not food. Belafonte Tacolcy Sports?
Ms. Spillman: No, no.
Mayor Ferre: That's not food. Belafonte Tacolcy Youth Vocational?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Miami Bridge?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Overtown Daycare?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: Coconut Grove Family Clinic?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mayor Ferre: First United Methodist?
Ms. Spillman: Yes, it is.
Mayor Ferre: H.A.C.A.D.?
Ms. Spillman: No ... yes it is. I'm sorry.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, be honest now; 39% is food.
Ms. Spillman: I was going to say half.
Mr. Plummer: That is a tremendous increase in what it was before.
Mayor Ferre: J.E.S.C.A.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Little Havana, food. Los Viejos Utiles?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Ferre: Miami Jewish Home?
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Ms. Spillman: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Food? St. Albans?
Ms. Spillman: No.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Miami Jewish Home for the Aged is food?
Ms. Spillman: It's an elderly program just like Action Community
Center and part of the budget is for food as is at....
Mr. Plummer: What part of the budget is food?
Ms. Spillman: I'll have it for you in a second.
Mayor Ferre: And while you are looking for it, give me a list of those
that take care of the indigent, the needy, you know the people that are...
because our first criteria is food for people; second criteria is indigent
and need, right?
Mr. Plummer: Correct.
Mayor Ferre: Health programs, is John Bennet here? John, how's that
sports program coming along? How many kids do you serve on that?
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Mayor Ferre: What's the C.C.S. - Miami Bridge? Is that the one that
Dr. Sheppard used to ... what is it?
Mr. Plummer: Catholic Services.
Ms. Spillman: Yes, it's located behind the old Miami police station.
It's a shelter for run -away teenagers and it's a very worthy program.
I mean, we're right there.
Mayor Ferre: How about the Overtown Daycare. I guess that's....
Ms. Spillman: That serves Haitians. It's a daycare program that's....
Mayor Ferre: Centro Caribeno de Estudios, Coconut Grove Family Clinic,
that's Mrs. Gibson's program, right?
Ms. Spillman: That is a program which serves the needy.
Mayor Ferre: Industrial Home for the Blind, Los Viejos Utiles, that's
$4,000. St. Alban's Daycare Center. You know I just don't know which
of those programs we can cut out. I don't see that we can cut out
any of those programs.
Ms. Spillman: Commissioner Plummer, it's 35% food for the Miami Jewish
Home. I'll have the Allapattah Action in a moment.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you, Mr. Mayor, you know I think one area
where we have to look, the Miami Jewish Home and Hospital do a great
job. Mr. Mayor, I don't know of another agency that we fund that
receives $24,000,000. Are these figures right?
Ms. Spillman: Which one are you looking at?
Mr. Plummer: I'm looking at the project called Douglas Gardens City
of Miami Senior Adult Day Care Center.
Ms. Spillman: Yes, the figure is correct. There is a representative
here if you would like to....
Mr. Plummer: You know, I'm reading here....
Ms. Spillman: Unless she's telling me it's not.
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Mr. Plummer: ....that they have a total budget of $24,656,606.
Unidentified Speaker: Commissioner Plummer, as you well know, the Jewish
Home is a Jewish home and hospital for the aged.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Unidentified Speaker: The senior adult day center, as one of our com-
munity services, is only one of a number of community services. Each
of the community services must stand on its own. Without the City of
Miami funding, the program essentially goes down the drain. The Jewish
Home, the Greater Miami Jewish Federation, the United Way are beneficiaries
for the Jewish Home and Hospital provide funding only for the home and
hospital. We are an agency that is non-profit, that by our charter is not
allowed to fund raise for operational dollars and based upon the board
of directors' guidance, any of our community programs must be self -
supported. Therefore, if money is not available tc make the program
self-supporting from their funding sources, the program dies. These
is the program that is serving poor, older people within the City of
Miami. The average age being in excess of 86 for that program. Without
this program, we are not only talking about food, we are talking about
these people being put into an institution at a cost exceeding the City,
the State at $40 or $50 a day.
Mayor Ferre: Hold on for a second. I know that some of you kids are leaving
and I want to thank you for listening patiently. I want you to know some-
thing before you leave. I want to say something to the young people that
are leaving from A.S.P.I.R.A. I don't know what will happen. We will try
our best to get some funding. But I want you to know that I'm very proud
of each and every one of you for coming here, for speaking, for listening,
for being patient. I want you to know that the hardest part of being Mayor
of Miami, or being a member of the Commission, is making the decision that
we have to make tonight, because for every one person that's going to walk
away from here happy, there are going to be hundreds that are going to be
very upset. We do not have enough money to fund all of the programs. We
will try our best. Good night.
Mr. Plummer: May I inquire, according to this which we were furnished by
the department, you have an average daily attendance of 31. You are recom-
mended for $117,000. If your average daily attendance is 31, real quickly
that's like $4,000 a person.
Unidentified Speaker: Let me add to that, that's as of several months
ago. One of the things that the City of Miami funding has enabled us
to do is we are the only licensed adult day health center in Dade County.
Because of the City of Miami funding as a base, we are able to use that
money to fund additional slots. That is funded through Medicaid reimbursement.
Medicaid is now paying us, so that we now can increase our census from 31.
This month we had an average of 39. We're looking to go up towards 50.
So the 31 people that the City of Miami is funding is enabling us to go
up to 50 per day funding.
Mr. Plummer: I do not dispute all of the good work that you do. But
I think that we have reached, which I tried to come to many, many years
ago, that the dollars that we have to work with are going to have to go,
and we are going to cut everything else out, to feeding the hungry, taking
care of the sick, and I just don't see any other way. I have no qualms
with that money which you use to feed people.
Unidentified Speaker: But we are also taking care of them. If they didn't
come into our program, they would be in an institution.
Mr. Plummer: I understand that. Every one of these, the Haitians have
expressed the same thing.
Unidentified Speaker: But the Haitians are talking about children who
have opportunities and have choice.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'm talking about children that are in their mothers'
arms.
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are talking about people who have nobody to take care of them.
Mr. Plummer: You know, I bet that the Haitians would not stand up here
and argue if they had a total budget of $24,000,000.
Unidentified Speaker: But that has nothing to do, and I don't think
that's fair, Commissioner. That has nothing to do with the program.
Mr. Plummer: Why isn't that fair?
Unidentified Speaker: Because if the City of Miami pulls any amount
of funding, the home cannot support it. We do not fund raise for
operational dollars. Any monies ... the program must stand on its own.
It's like when....
Mr. Plummer: When you say you don't fund raise, now then this information
that I have is incorrect. You get money from the Miami Jewish Federation.
Unidentified Speaker: Not for this program, absolutely not.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, that's part of all of your monies. You get
monies from the United Way of Dade County. You get money from the
Dade -Monroe County Mental Health Board, Federal and State funds. You
get Community Care for the Elderly Act. You get Area Agency on Aging,
Department of Health and Human Services, State of Florida.
Unidentified Speaker: They are all for separate, distinct grants.
Mr. Plummer: The National Institute on Aging, South Florida Employment and
Training Consortium. You know, I....
Unidentified Speaker: Commissioner Plummer, I can only add, like the
City of Miami's grant, which is separate and exclusive, we cannot use
that money to fund or towards any other program. All of the funding
sources that you listed are separate for separate programs. We have
28 separate accounts with separate programs. All of the grants that
you talked about are for research or for other programs.
Mr. Plummer: I just hope that you understand I have no qualms about
the feeding portion of your program: that dedicated to food. I have
no qualms about that and I will not argue the point. Maybe the City
of Miami in its Federal Revenue Sharing can no longer afford the luxury
of a $4,000 per client program.
Unidentified Speaker: It is $1,023 when you add it, based upon....
Mr. Plummer: Well, O.K., if your figures have changed, that's not
what I have in front of me. I have to go with what's in front of me.
If I accept your figures, it's $3,000 per client. If there are 40
people and you are getting near $120,000.
Unidentified Speaker: I'm just reading from the staff recommendation
because we have an unduplicated per year, based upon the total clients
served, the project total cost per budget on a yearly basis is $1,791
or $23 a day.
Mr. Plummer: It can't be. If you are serving 40 clients....
Unidentified Speaker: They change throughout the year. They are
not the same all year. People die.
Mr. Plummer: But you average 40 clients a year.
Unidentified Speaker: Right, per day.
Mr. Plummer: Divide that into $120,000. Dena, I want to question
you on that. She, according to your figures here, is correct. You
show an average yearly cost of $1,085 based on, at your figures here,
on 31.
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Unidentified Speaker: It's looking at an unduplicated count of 150,
that's where the number came from.
Ms. Spillman: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Then you are not serving that on an average.
Unidentified Speaker: On a yearly basis we are serving 150 unduplicated
persons. On a daily basis, based upon the report, we are serving 31.
Mr. Plummer: A daily basis is what we go on. Is it not?
Unidentified Speaker: We don't serve people five days a week. Some
people we serve two days a week, three days a week, four days a week,
and five days a week, based upon the need.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., all right, I'm not arguing. But I'm just saying
that you primarily are serving an average of 31 a day.
Ms. Spillman: At a cost per person, per day of $14 for a total care
program. It's not just the feeding. They get a full day of activities
and....
Mr. Plummer: I'm not arguing. I'm saying an average of 31. I used
her figure of 40, give her one. Divide that by the total number of
dollars. It's $3,000 a person.
Ms. Spillman: No, no it isn't. Our cost per client, Commissioner,
is $1,085 per client on a yearly basis.
Mr. Plummer: Dena.
Ms. Spillman: Our cost, the City cost.
Mr. Plummer: Dena, I was not a genius at mathematics, but I didn't
flunk either. Your average daily clients are 31.
Ms. Spillman: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Based on 31 clients divided into the number of dollars.
It's that simple!
Ms. Spillman: Well, I'm not going to argue with you.
Mr. Plummer: O.K. Mr. Mayor, I say to you, sir, and I'm not speaking
now just to this project. You asked in my estimation where the dollars
have to come from. I think we have to go through each of these programs.
I think if the Commission assumes an attitude that I have asked this
Commission to do for years, that we take and address first to feed the
hungry, we secondly take care of the sick; and anything left over we will
talk about. I say that to you, sir, is where the additional monies have
to come from. H.A.C.A.D. they're doing —call it 40% as far as food is
concerned. I have no qualms with that whatsoever. I congratulate them.
Because, if you will recall, my upset just two years ago was that they
were like at 14% or 15%.
Roger, I'm not arguing with you. The Mayor said where is the money
coming from. I say whether it's H.A.C.A.D. or take any other program
here, if this Commission sets its criteria, which I hope it does, that
we address these monies first towards food, secondly towards medical....
Mayor Ferre: Food and the things that go with it.
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mayor Ferre: Those people, I mean....
Mr. Plummer: You have to take the people there that can't eat. I
agree with that.
Mayor Ferre: The kitchens have to be kept up and all that.
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Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you what I'd like to do. Why is everybody suddenly
so silent? I think we have reached the point of the decision making by this
Commission. It's a real tough decision. I think that decision is which
hungry people are we going to feed and which we are not going to feed.
I think that's where we are. I really do. I think that what we need to
do and what I would like to see is that all of this go back to Dena for
one week, no more. Because you can sift through it very quickly. Come
back and tell me of each program, what is addressing food, what is addressing
medical, and what is addressing other. I don't know where else the money
can come from. Which hungry people are you going to tell no? We are just
in that position.
Mayor Ferre: I'll tell you what. Let's do it in a more...Mr.
Manager,
we
roughly have a million dollars left over.
Mr.
Plummer: No, we have much below that, Maurice, you
have already
given
three months' funding.
Mr.
Gary: You have left a million, given Barbara Carev
and given......
Mayor
Ferre: How much money do we have?
Ms.
Spillman: We don't have any money. We already need
$300,000.
Mr.
Gary: $1.1 million.
Mr.
Plummer: No, no, how much total do we have?
Ms.
Spillman: Oh, total? $1,120,000.
Mr.
Plummer: Left, we paid out three months.
Mr.
Gary: Wait one second.
Ms.
Spillman: All right, I see what you're saying.
Mayor Ferre: Say it into the record. Mr. Roger Biamby,
for the record
you
want to make a statement. Go ahead.
Mr. Roger Biamby: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I just want
to point out to your attention that half of our budget is indeed earmarked
for emergency food and shelter. But we have two attorneys that are working
full time at the agency handling and solving problems in the area of tenant
landlord. Every month our attorneys are recovering on the average about
$3,000 a month. Those are moneys that we are putting back in the hands
of the Haitian community. Now when you multiply that... those are monies
that they didn't have before that they would have lost. It's one thing
to take into consideration in making your considerations.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, it's now close to 8:30. We've on this for
four hours. We need to kind to come to a conclusion. Commissioner
Plummer is recommending that you go back and that we come back with
reco=aendations. We need to set the criteria as to what those recom-
mendations are going to be, because otherwise we are going to be in
the same tailspin. How much money is left over, Dena, now that we have
gone through three months?
Ms. Rosa Castro Feinberg: While these calculations are going on, may
I be recognized for a second? My name is Rosa Castro Feinberg. I'm
on the board of A.S.P.I.R.A. and I want to make one statement for the
Commission and only one. If you give a man a fish, he eats for one day.
If you teach a man to fish, he can eat forever.
Mayor Ferre: You tell that to somebody who doesn't eat for a couple
of days.
Ms. Feinberg: It is a tough choice. I don't dispute that for a moment.
But it's the whole question of holding the line now and avoiding problems
in the future.
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Mayor Ferre: Dr. Feinberg, our problem here is that we're dealing with
a very hard reality of hard core poverty that is not being taken care of
by the people who should be taking care of it, which is our Federal
government. This is a Federal responsibility. The poor people in
America get the very short end of the stick. This country of wealth,
industry, and power does not take care of those 20% down at the bottom
at the totem pole who are unfortunate enough to be poor. You are talking
about 36,000,000 people right now that are on... Do you believe that?
36,000,000 that are in poverty in this country! That's what we are
dealing with here. We are dealing with people who are going to bed
at night sometimes without having eaten a decent meal. We have to deal
with that problem right here in the City of Miami! I want to tell you
it is the worst part of this job. I wish to God I could just delegate
this and let somebody....
Mr. Plummer: Big Xavier never said it would be easy.
Mayor Ferre: Who's he?
Marcia Cypen: Mr. Mayor, may I have just a moment to speak? I'm sorry
I wasn't here earlier. My name is Marcia Cypen. I'm the Executive
Director of Legal Services. I just want to make two points. One is
similar to the point that was just made. Although we do not provide
food and medical care, what we do is obtain food stamps for people who
are wrongly denied, so that they can go out and get the food. We get
supplemental security income disability for people who are wrongly
denied, so they can get Medicaid, so they can get the medical care
that they need. So we don't give out the food and medical care, but
we get them the means to get the food and medical care. The second
point I'd like to make is that specially in the Wynwood area, there
are people who are now defined as ineligible aliens and we cannot serve
with any other money that we have. The only way we can serve these people,
is if we have money that is not Federal money.
Mayor Ferre: I wish I could find a million dollars to do. I can't
think of anything more worthy of support than Legal Services. I can't
understand how in God's world the President of these United States
cannot understand the tremendous importance of Legal Services. I
can't understand how the Senate of the United States doesn't understand
that. How can they cut your budget? I just can't believe it!
Ms. Cypen: It would take me more than 30 seconds to tell you why.
Mayor Ferre: It seems so heartless to me. I cannot understand how
people in Washington can do these things. I frankly can't understand
how with all due respects to you people in this City who go and vote
for these people and vote for them again!
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, I have to leave. Anyhow, we don't have a full
Commission here. I would like to share Commissioner Plummer's recommendation
and to delay for the next Commission meeting. Also, I would like for the
City Manager's office to meet with each member of this Commission and
personally, I would like to have in the recommendation some of the
projects that are not recommended at this time. I would like to leave
for the record that I would like to have included Youth Co-op, Southwest
Service, and Centro Mater in the next recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: Dena, are you listening to the Commissioner's request?
Dena Spillman, you have a member of this Commission giving you instructions
as to what he wants for next week and so you don't have to go and listen
to this record, and spend an hour researching for it, you better listen.
He says that he wants next week the following items discussed by you for
funding. He's going to repeat them one more time.
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Mr. Perez: I would like to have a final recommendation for the next
Commission meeting, the next Zoning Commission meeting, for next week....
Mayor Ferre: Next Thursday.
Mr. Perez: Personally, I would like to have included in your recommendation
Youth Co-op, Southwest Services, and Centro Mater. That's what I personally
want to add to your recommendation.
Ms. Spillman: Commissioner, I'm sorry, I didn't hear the third one.
Mr. Perez: Centro Mater and Southwest Services.
Mayor Ferre: Centro Mater has already been funded an additional $20,000.
It's not recorded there, but we voted on it last time.
Ms. Spillman: Youth Co-op, Southwest Services, and Centro Mater.
Mayor Ferre: What's your wish list?
Mr. Carollo: On Centro Mater, the $20,000....
Mayor Ferre: That's been done. We voted on that unanimously.
Mr. Carollo: I remember we voted on that. In fact, I made the motion.
We voted on that. But....
Mayor Ferre: $20,000 additional for Centro Mater.
Mr. Carollo: That was my question. Was that the same $20,000 you have
down here?
Mayor Ferre: Yes. So there is really no need. What we need is an
update, because you don't have that figure here. Now, Commissioner
Carollo, are there any special instructions that you want to give tle
Administration?for next week?
Mr. Plummer: Joe, did you hear what I asked?
Mr. Carollo: No, I did not, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., basically I asked that they go through those areas
which are recommended, they come back and tell us what percentage of
those programs are: one, food; two, medical or related associated; and
three, other. And that was predicated on the Mayor's saying where is
the additional money coming from. This Commission sets its criteria
in feeding the hungry first and treating the sick. I don't know any
other way to do it. I have no magical formula.
Mayor Ferre: I have to questions. To what extent? Because otherwise,
what we'll say is we'll take the whole million dollars and this is feed
the poor, because I tell you there is enough poor, hungry people in this
town that a million dollars would go just like that. The second thing
is how are you going to distribute it. Are you going to do it on an
ethnic basis? Are you going to do it on a geographical basis? Are you
going to do it on a basis of age? Are you going to do it on a basis of
need? Are we going to take care of the poorest first? I mean, who are
we going to take care of? Poor people? Are we going to take care of
older people or younger people? Who are we going to feed first? The
old people or the young people? Are we going to take care of daycare
parents so they can go get a job so they can feed three children rather
than one? Or are we just going to take care of feeding children?
Mr. Carollo: Those are decisions that we are going to have to make
pretty quickly. But besides the guidelines that Commissioner Plummer
presented, I'd like to add a few others. Even though these are Federal
Funds, they are not coming from General Funds, I think we have to
implement new, stricter guidelines just like what Ms. Reno recommended
on the funds that we have been allocating from the General Fund. I
would like to establish some very strong, stringent guidelines just
like we are establishing for the funds that we are allocating from
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Mr. Carollo (Con't): the General Fund. At the same time, I think that
we should go back to the State Attorney's office and coordinate on their
opinion the types of audits that we should do on each of these programs
that we are going to allocate funds to make sure that they are being
run properly. I think Howard has had a head start on that with the
conversations that he's had with the State Attorney's office. I think
it's something that should be brought into consideration for the allocation
of funds; that is that on the existing programs, just how good of a job
have they been doing? If we have three programs to do the same, basic
service in different areas, and we might have to pick one or two out of
the three, I think we're going to have to grade them. I think we're
going to have to go into the back track records of maybe the programs
that are coming newest to us, but have had a track record in the past;
see what kind of people are running the programs. Have they been neovle
that have had the type of morals that we would feel at ease with and
that we would have confidence in? I think these are all things that
we are going to have to take into consideration.
Mayor Ferre: We also, Dena, need to make very sure —I'm not about to
vote for funding for a program that is 60% City of Miami people and
40% County people or Hialeah people. Our responsibility for hot meals
is for people who live within the boundaries of the City of Miami.
Mr. Carollo: Absolutely correct.
Mayor Ferre: I don't think we should give one hot meal to somebody who
lives in the County or Hialeah. That's their problem. I think we also
have to put a limit. I think that the limit... because what we are going
to be doing is going into programs such as daycare centers in Overtown,
the Tacolcy operation... if we keep on going the way we are going, that's
where we're going to be cutting into, educational programs, daycare programs.
We have a lot of things to worry about. I don't frankly think... to me
the most important things of all is jobs. But that's not where this thing
is at. This is not work, jobs; it is not the third priority. It isn't
even the fourth priority. The first priority is feeding the hungry
people, and doing those things to give them food. The second priority
is taking care of their health needs. The third priority is taking care
of children who are in need of some sort of counseling so we will permit
their parents to go work. Job training is ... we don't have money in this
for jobs. There is no money for jobs. We have $700,000 left in this
thing. I'm sure it's $700,000 or $800,000.
Mr. Gary: I have a computation here for you. We started out with $1,120,000.
Martin Technical College and the 1/12th allocation is up to now $445,876,000.
Mr. Plummer: 1/12th or 3/12ths?
Mr. Gary: 1/12th allocation, so it is 3/12ths. So, therefore, you have
an available balance of $674,124. If you take into consideration those
new programs such as Centro Mater, what is this ... United something...
the available balance is $614,503.
Mr. Plummer: Half of what we started with, which means that every program,
if it were awarded tonight, every program would be getting half from this
point forward, half from what they have from the very beginning.
Mr. Carollo: I think Oliver Goldsmith, the English poet, said it best.
He said that true generosity is not consistent in every impulse of
humanity to render us incapable of future ones. We adjourn?
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the City Commission,
on motion duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 8:35 P.M..
MAURICE A. FERRF
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ATTEST: RALPH G. ONGIE
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DOCUMENT IDENTIFICATION
ACTION AND CODE NO,
ACCEPTING THE BID OF F.R. INDUSTRIES, INC. FOR FURNISHING
150 CROWD CONTROL BARRIERS TO THE OFFICE OF STADIUMS.
R-83-1093
ACCEPTING THE BID OF DUPONT PLAZA CENTER FOR FURNISHING
MARINA DOCKSIDE FUELING SERVICES. DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING
AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
R-83-1094
ACCEPTING THE BID OF MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AND
ELECTRONICS, INC. FOR FURNISHING ONE COMMUNICATIONS
SYSTEM ANALYZER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE.
R-83-1095
ACCEPTING THE BID OF FOUR SUPPLIERS: AMOCO OIL COMPANY,
FLOVAL OIL COMPANY, METAL LUBRICANTS COMPANY AND ROSS
OIL CORPORATION FOR FURNISHING LUBRICANT ITEMS.
R-83-1096
ACCEPTING THE BID OF AAIEM CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION
FOR MODIFICATIONS TO FORMER PROPOSAL TO FIRE STATION
NO. 16. - STRESS SIMULATOR.
R-83-1097
ACCEPTING THE BID OF ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION FOR
THE LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROJECT. PHASE III.
R-83-1098
ACCEPTING THE BID OF ALL TYPE PROJECTS, INC. FOR DINNER
KAY MARINA DOCKMASTER'S OFFICE RENOVATION.
R-83-1099
AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF 78 PORTABLE RADIOS AND
ACCESSORIES FOR POLICE AND FIRE USE FROM MOTOROLA
COMMUNICATIONS AND ELECTRONICS, INC.
R-83-1100
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
AGREEMENT WITH BOSWORTH AERIAL SERVICES, INC.
R-83-1101
TRANSFERRING THE RIGHT OF WAY OF S.W. 12TH AVENUE AND N.W.
12TH AVENUE BETWEEN CORAL WAY AND N.W. 8TH STREET.
R-83-1102
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER AN AGREEMENT WITH ERIC R.
SISSER INC. FOR SERVICES AS LEGISLATIVE LIAISON
REPRESENTATIVE IN ALL SESSIONS OF THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
R-83-1103
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER PROFESSIONAL AGREEMENT SERVICES
WITH GEORGE BOLOTIN QUARTET FOR LIVE MUSICAL
PERFORMANCES AT CITY OF MIAMI LEGION PARK AND STEPHEN
CLARK BUILDING.
R-83-1104
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ACCEPTLNG THE COMPLETED WORK OF WILLIAMS PAVING CO.INC.
FOR LATIN QUARTER PAVING PROYECT-PHASE II.
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE LAND
AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
OF JOSE MARTI PARK PHASE II.
EXTENDING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE
LAW FIRM OF ARNOLD AND PORTER IN CONNECTION 14ITH
REPRESENTATION AS IT RELATES TO THE CABLE TELEVISION
LICENSE FEE WAIVER PETITION.
ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF ALTMAN-MYERS CONSTRUCTION
INC. FOR NEW COMMUNITY BUILDINGS AND SWIMMING POOL
RENOVATIONS.
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN INSTRUMENT
FORMALLY CANCELING THE OCTOBER 27/71 AND SEPT. 28/73
COVENANTS TO RUN WITH THE LAND -APARTMENT BUILDING AT
1012-20 N.W. 45TH AVENUE.
AUTHORIZING DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY TO PEARLINE MC
FADDEN THE SUM OF $13,000.
AUTHORIZING DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO PAY LINDA B. SMITH
$60,000.
ORDERING CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT-S.W.
16 STREET SR-5499-C
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE TO NEGOTIATE
AGREEMENT WITH A QUALIFIED AUDIO VISUAL PRODUCTION FIRM
FOR THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOW'N/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT.
AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF FIFTEEN ELECTRONIC PRINTING
SYSTEMS FROM XEROX CORPORATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
POLICE.
ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,500. TO PARTLY
DEFRAY COSTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STAGING OF THE HALF-
TIME SHOW NATIONALLY TELEVISED DURING THE UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI/NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL GAME SEPTEMBER 24, 1983.
ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000. FOR 1983 MEETI
OF THE PAN AMERICAN HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,560. TO THE COUNCIL
FOR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS OF GREATER MIAMI,
ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF FILM DISTRIBUTORS OF AMERICA.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH P.F. ENTERPRISES TO
ACT AS CONVENTION REPRESENTATIVES IN THE WASHINGTON, D.C.
AREA.
R-83-11.05
R-83-1106
R-83-1107
R-83-1108
R-83-1109
R-83-1110
R-83-1111
R-83-1112
R-83-1113
R-83-1114
R-83-1115
R-83-1116
R-83-1117
R-83-1118
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AUTHORIZING PURCHASING OF 1.000 INDUSTRIAL RAINSUITS
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOLTD WASTE.
R-83-1120
CONFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN APPROVING
THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 1,250 HANDBOOKS FROM THE
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
R-83-1121
STRONGLY URGING THAT THE HIALEAH PARK RACE COURSE BE
ASSIGNED THE MIDDLE RACING CATEF, FOR ITS 1984
RACING MEET BY THE DIVISON OF PARI-MUTUAL WAGERING OF THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS REGULATION.
R-83-1123
ALLOCATING $15,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS IN SUPPORT OF THE
MIAMI CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
R-83-1127
CONFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE. CITY MANAGER IN
AUTHORIZING AN ALLOCATION OF $3,513.94. TO COCONUT GROVE
CARES, INC.
R-83-1133
CONFIRMING THE FINDINGS OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT FORMAL
COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS BE WAIVED FOR DEMOLITION SERVICES
AT TRINITY METHODIST CHURCH,
R-83-1139
AUTHORIZING CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE THE EMPLOYMENT OF
THE LAW FIRM OF STEEL HECTOR AND DAVIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL
REGARDING CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI.
R-83-1144
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR
DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL
PLANNING COUNCIL FOR THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST.
R-83-1145
ALLOCATING AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $197,200. FROM THE
GENERAL FUND TO THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY.
R-83-1146
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS
FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND TO THE SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
R-83-1147
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER AGREEMENT WITH OVERTOWN ADVISORY
BOARD TO PROVIDE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION FOR ACTIVITIES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
R-83-1148
STRONGLY URGING COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CLINICAL
CENTER IN DADE COUNTY FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MIAMI
HEART INSTITUTE' "SYSTOLIC HYPERTENSION IN THE ELDERLY
PROGRAMS".
R-83-1149
ORDERING CITY WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT-OVERTOWN
PHASE I SR-5501-C.
R-83-1150
APPROVING THE SELECTION BY THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE
ARCHITECTURAL/ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR ELDERLY MEALS
FACILITY AT 1901 N.W. 24TH AVENUE.
R-83-1151
RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 83-961 ENTITLED "A RESOLUTION
ORDERING CITY-WIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT. S.W.
16 STREET SR-5499-C.
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DECLARING THAT THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS METHOD TO DEVELOP
CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ON CITY OWNED LAND MAY BE A UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT-UTATSON ISLAND.
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER AGREEMENT WITH SAN FRANCISCO PUFFS
AND STUFFS, INC. FOR THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO SELL FOOD AND
BEVERAGES ON NEW YEARS EVE ORANGE BOWL PARADE ROUTE.
R-83-1153
R-83-1154